PK Subban, Jerry O'Connell, Wolves And Pacers Win Road Game 7's + Xander Gets His First Major After Scottie Scheffler Got Arrested

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Welcome to part of my take presented by Marshall Sports. yours today is Monday May 20th and the Minnesota Timberwolves shock the world and take down the defending champion Nuggets with an incredible game seven performance holy shit PFT oh I should have said also congratulations to Hank Boston Celtics are NBA champs yeah because the Nuggets are out the only real competition that they had so congratulations Hank that's very big for you Congrats.
You're not worried about the Pacers at all, right? No. Yeah.

Come on. out the only real competition that they had so congratulations Hank that's very big for you um congrats you're not worried about the Pacers at all right no yeah yeah I didn't think so and you're not worried about the Mavericks not worried about the Wolves no I'll be watching the Mavs Wolves with with some intensity so watching these games I've I've started to come around maybe just because I'm hanging out with Hank too much but I I see his point when he says, you guys just hate me for existing.

And it's true.

We do hate you for existing, but your entire existence is very infuriating.

You understand that?

That's true.

That's also true.

I just exist, and people choose to be infuriated.

I can only control myself.

You just exist and throw looks.

Yeah, again, it's like I have to look.

I have to look places. And then if you get mad at me for not talking then when i talk it just enrages you but holy shit the timberwolves down 15 at half they played like dog crap in the first half and then the second half it was like the nuggets forgot the monsters talked about halftime i guess i want to know what that halftime speech was like adjustments they made on both sides, because the Nuggets went from looking unstoppable and the Wolves looking like trash to the complete opposite.
Second half of a total 180. Nothing was falling for the Nuggets.
Defensively, the Wolves were just swarming them. Yeah, and they also, Jokic taking, what did he end up taking, 10 threes? Yeah, he just kept shooting because he was like, they have to start falling.
That can't be in the game plan. The Wolves, in terms of impressive series wins, the way this one went down, because obviously they would go up 2-0 and everyone crowns them, and then the Nuggets remind everyone that they're the Nuggets, and they go back 3-2, and you thought, okay, that's it.
It's series over. The Wolves are dead.
Friday night dead friday night they absolutely kill the nuggets and then even tonight when they're down 20 points early in the game and you're like there's no chance this team is just not ready yet and they just kept fighting just like anthony edwards didn't have his best game kept fighting nas reed was just that that stretch he had where he was like a couple free throws block, assist dunk. He just absolute electricity put into the Timberwolves team and they take down the champs.
Be real careful out there if you're typing Nas Reed with your autocorrect or Guy Marquise Noel from Kansas State. He fell victim to this like 10 minutes ago he just said like nazi played a great game oh no or he said ggs nazi nazi ggs buddy but it was it was a full team effort from from the wolves because if you told me going into uh game seven that anthony edwards would have the kobe six for 24 which is that was that his famous uh stat line from the Game 7 they won won.
I'm pretty sure it was six for 24 from the field. I'd be like, no chance.
The Wolves win this game. Well, here's a fun stat about Anthony Edwards.
So when he's held below five points in the first half of the game, the Timberwolves are seven and one this season. Damn.
Pretty crazy. That's the formula.
So you just got to not score. Just have him not score at all in the first half, and then you're good.
But even Carl Anthony Towns' goofy ass, that one moment where he couldn't inbound the ball, and he just started – he looked like he was going to run up to the ref and be like, stop the game fully, not even just call a timeout. He didn't call a timeout.
Anthony Edwards will do something every game that makes you scratch your head. Carl Anthony Towns.
Yeah, Carl Anthony Towns will do something in every game that makes you scratch your head and say like, how, how is this guy still having a job in the NBA? And then he'll do something every game where you're like, Oh, this guy's one of the best basketball players on the planet. Yeah.
But he was, yeah. I mean, he was getting tough rebounds.
He was, you know, he scored like the, I'm just, I couldn't be more impressed with the wolves. This series was just, it was the anti Minnesota series because Minnesota sports fans have been through hell and back and up 2-0, they were starting to be like, maybe this is different and then down 3-2, they're like, nope, same old Minnesota Timberwolves, same old Minnesota sports and then in this game specifically being like a no-show in game 7 can't believe we got our hopes up, boom you look, and they win the game somewhat convincingly because they were up 10 with like three minutes left, and it was over.
In the Nuggets building, they win three games in Denver. I mean, what a performance.
They're for real. Pretty good.
They're for real, Hank. I'm not saying they're not.
I loved after the game the second the whistle blew. First shot.
Not the real team owner. Not the coach dealing with a torn patella.
Not a crying fan in the stands that made the long trip for Minnesota. A-Rod.
A-Rod. First person.
Boss man. When I think Timberwolves I think Alex Rudd.
Winning. Winning culture.
But yeah. Shout out Minnesota fans.
This has to feel like... it has to feel almost bizarre and like it when's the joke gonna happen yeah because you have the young star and it felt like this series slipped away and it didn't and now you're on to the western conference finals for the first time i believe since like 2004 when they had kevin garnett and their last time that they were in the their only other time in the Western Conference Finals it's awesome correct you know shout out Minnesota sports fans it's been a long time to have a team that you're like that it's again it's the opposite Minnesota sports where every other team they've had it's always been like ah they'll end up losing this team is just a bunch of dogs you're like no maybe they won't yeah they're fun they are the game that you look forward to watching yeah i'm bummed that the series is over actually even though we didn't have a whole lot of really close games we didn't i was just looking forward to these games because you didn't know who was going to win friday night was was like that was the biggest joke of a game ever they they all have kind of been jokes yeah i guess it's the most lopsided seven game series where both teams were lopsided also uh the nuggets wolves jersey mismatch tonight was probably the most profound there's ever been because i don't know what the fuck burn that nuggets jersey never wear it again is it there is this the zip code i don't know it's like it's it has the altitude altitude oh my god that's even worse yeah i'd rather have the zip code.
I'd rather have the zip code. They put it on their court, obviously.
But put it on the jerseys and having the really dark blue ones, you've got to have something more intimidating. That's not a Game 7 uniform.
That's a Game 2 uniform. And then you let the Wolves walk in with their awesome, clean throwbacks.
Yep. And that was over right then, even though it wasn't.
Even though the first half was just all nuggets. Yeah.
Yeah. So, Hank, you got to be feeling it.
I'm excited. I'm excited for the next few weeks.
Yeah. Well, so who you got facing is the Indiana Pacers.
I want to start this because I want to start it by saying, talking about the Pacers because that ESPN that ESPN broadcast was something else. I didn't even know that they were – if you tuned into that game, you would not have known who the Knicks were playing today because they – even at the end of the game, like Doris Burke sounded like she was going to cry having to be like the Pacers are about to win this game.
Mike Breen I get because he's the Knicks regular play-by-play guy and he's a Knicks fan. But the beginning of the game started with Tyrese Halliburton, Jalen Brunson walking through the tunnel, and then Stephen A.
Smith also walking through the tunnel like he was a player. Before tip-off, they kicked it to Stephen A.
Smith, who gave a Knicks pump-up speech with Spike Lee. You would never have guessed the Indiana Pacers were playing in this game.
And then at halftime, the Pacers are winning. They're playing a great game.
And then at halftime, they just talk about what a tough guy O.G. Anobi is, which credit to him for playing, but then Bob Myers just lectures America on what an outstanding feat of strength this guy is pulling off tonight.
I wrote down the quote because Malika Andrews asked Bob Myers at halftime, what stood out to you for the Pacers? And he wrote, he said back, well, starting with OG couldn't go. And then went on to talk about OGs.
No, no, no. The question was about the Pacers.
So the Pacers deserve the credit here. They went into the Mecca in a game seven and dropped 130.
Just did not miss. 67% from the field.
This team, yeah, their defense is great, but their offensive, when it clicks, they have so many dudes who can score. And TJ McConnell, again, every time he comes off the bench, like holy shit, Tyrese Halliburton was awesome.

It was just they took it right to the Knicks,

completely took the crowd out of the game,

and their teams down 0-2 in a series have, I think, won the series 7% of the time,

and home teams in a game 7 win 75% of the time.

The Pacers just bucked both those trends. And it was the best shooting performance in a game seven on the road in NBA history.
It's incredible. Where they shoot 67%? 67%.
67% from the field is insane. Yeah.
All 16 of the ESPN analysts before the series picked the Knicks. Yeah.
The Pacers used that on their Twitter after. And so the Pacers deserve all the credit.
They deserve the shine that ES just did not give them whatsoever i think rick carlisle is right yeah for the small market well actually in new york it's not called a small market it's called a bodega yeah that's true get that straight with a cat yeah cat sitting in like a box of old like twix yeah yeah usually there's a ritz container like a box of ritz crackers that was from the 1980s. Yeah.
The beauty of a bodega is if you go past the first two or three things that are on the shelf, you can see one that's like, oh shit, was this a war ration? Yeah. Vienna sausages.
Yeah. They got everything you need though.
But the Pacers, full team performance. Everyone scored.
They had all five starters were in double in double digits in actually the lowest starter was miles turner at 17 so and then tj mcconnell put in 12 from the bench and yeah i i know that you shouldn't be worried about the pacers hank but the pacers do have an offense that like when they get hot and they run they play a weird style of basketball that could sneak up on you. Not worried.
They could maybe sneak in a game or two. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you.
I'm just saying, give it some shine to the Pacers. How do we feel about Tyrese Halliburton? It seems like he's embracing the role of a villain, but to me, the best villains aren't the ones that have to be like, you know what, I'm going to embrace the role of a villain.
A real villain just doesn't give a fuck and they're a villain yeah i didn't like that he did the too small to deuce mcbride on friday night behind his back and then pretended to pick his nose uh because he you got to do the too small with full well the too small is a hate crime yeah it's people of my my stature but um i'd have no i have no problem with him wearing the reggie miller choking shirt after the game yeah that's good like the Knicks were talking all this shit. As he saw in the media, everyone was picking against you guys.
Nobody was really respecting the Pacers. So, yeah, talk all this shit once it's over.
But a guy like that, when he loses, he doesn't have that same, I don't know. Do you know what I'm trying to say about, like, people who anoint themselves as a villain versus people who are just naturally villains? Oh, I think he's kind of hated.
You think so? Yeah, I think he's hated in the fact that when he's good, he's great,

and then there's some moments where it's like,

what is he doing out there?

He's just running in circles.

But you've got to give Tyrese Halliburton credit.

It's his first playoffs, and he's made it to a conference finals.

Joel Embiid has never done that.

That's pretty good.

It's very good. People are obsessed with Joel Embiid.
You're obsessed with Joel Embiid has never done that That's pretty good People are obsessed with Joel Embiid You're obsessed with Joel Embiid Well I mean I'm the one who brought this up Tyrese Halberton has made the conference final Before Joel Embiid Don't care Cat too It's not his first playoffs But he has made a conference finals before Joel Embiid. So who do you have to say with Anthony Edwards? So who's a better big man, Rudy Gobert or Joel Embiid? Be honest.
If I'm being honest, it's Joel Embiid. One's made a conference finals.
By a ton. By a ton.
But, yeah, the Pacers. So the Knicks went out so sad.

Well, they died as they lived with another heartbreaking injury.

Yeah.

Jalen Brunson broke his hand.

I heard that Tom Thibodeau actually sat on it at halftime.

We've got to figure out a way to blame him for this one as well.

Here's the thing.

Two things can be true at the same time.

The Knicks had incredibly bad injury luck in these playoffs, and you can be excited if you're a Knicks fan about the future because Jalen Brunson is an up-and-coming superstar. I said it.
Up-and-coming, not there yet, but a superstar in the making. Knicks fans also should understand that they have to get laughed at because all they do is talk shit, and they had the We Want Boston chants and the Bing Bongs and the after-every-game, the interviews, and then you just lost Game 7 at the Mecca to the Indiana Pacers.
Yeah, and Spike Lee pretty much crying in the front row afterwards. That was tough to watch.
Like, I think – I don't know. I mean, maybe most Knicks fans aren't – Memes, you're a Knicks fan.
Memes, by the way, is going through the playoffs of hell because he's an Islanders and Knicks fan and hates the Rangers who are maybe going to win the Stanley Cup. We'll talk to P.K.
Subban about that. But what do you think, Memes? Do you think it's fair? Or do you think Knicks fans are in their feels about people talking shit back to them? Because I saw a lot of that.
Being like, oh, we're so injured, we're so injured. You guys talk a lot of shit for not being in a conference final since 2000.
Yeah, I think everybody's just in their feelings right now. Yeah, fair.
Which is fair. That's how sports work.
I think both sides are overreacting when Knicks fans are like, or Pacers fans are saying, well, Knicks fans keep using the injury card on everything. And then Knicks fans get pissed off at that.
And I think the truth is in the middle where it's like your team had devastating injuries. Yeah, no.
And you were all hurt. Yeah.
It's a valid excuse, but it's still definitely an excuse. Right.
And it's also, you talk a lot of shit along the way. You got to expect it to come back at you when you end up losing, especially game seven at the Mecca.
Yep. And that was, I mean, that crowd, like, the Pacers just took it right to them.
Hank, are you sad you don't get to play the Knicks? It doesn't really matter. I would have liked to shut the Knicks fans up and just sweep them real quick, but they would have just played the injury card anyway.
So this will get the in-season tournament revenge game. Yeah, but Knicks fans, do you think they're going to be rooting against the Celtics? Are they going to be able to bring themselves to root for the Pacers? I don't think they're...
They don't have that hate in their home? They don't really care. I mean, the Pacers and Knicks have more of a rivalry.
They're probably not going to watch basketball. They do.
The Pacers and Knicks have more of a rivalry than the Celtics and the Knicks. That's true, but I feel like people from New York just don't want to see people from Boston succeed.
It's true. Here's a weird stat.
Now, the Pacers have been to the Eastern Conference Finals a bunch of times. They went to the NBA Finals in whatever it was, 2000.
But 1994, they went to the Eastern Conference Finals. 2004, they went to the Eastern Conference Finals.
2014, they went to the Eastern Conference Finals. 2024, Eastern Conference Finals.
So let's put in a reminder for 2034. Make sure that's in there.
Sounds good. There have been other times, though.
But still, that's kind of cool. I'm going to bet so many shit coins on that game.
I'm going to be so rich from Doge. I'm happy for the Pacers.
I mean, they got a young, fun team. But Tyrese Halliburton, what? Me too.
I'm happy for him. Tyrese Halliburton, Jason Tatum, Luka, or Anthony Edwards.
One of those four is going to win their first ring. That's pretty cool.
Very cool. That's a passing of the torch of the NBA.
I'm not saying those are all in the same level. Which player do you think is the best out of that group of four you just named? I would still say Luka.
I would like Hank to answer that question. I would like Hank to answer that question too.
I'd say Tatum. Is better than Luka? More experience.
Okay. How? He's played longer.
Nothing but success? Nothing but success. I mean, they've...
More playoff games. I mean, Luka played overseas and then played here.
I mean, it's close. It's close.
It's a 1A, 1B situation. Luka's very good, but I'd ride and die with Jason Tatum.
A call from the Dallas map, Mark Cuban, who still somehow owns them, tomorrow and said, hey, we want to trade Jason Tatum for Luka straight up. Do the Celtics hang up that phone call? I don't know what they would do I I'm not sure okay I would pick up that call I would pick I would take that call I would entertain the call yeah you would answer it okay we should talk about the Mavs that was an awesome awesome game six uh the shot making at the end of the game was just like just such high level back and forth.

And also the Thunder.

I feel like the Thunder blew, I don't know, like four or five different 15 point leads during that game.

They just kept on getting these huge leads and the Mavs kept coming back.

And the Mavs, Kyrie Irving, fun fact, is 14 and 0 in closeout games, which is a weird way to say it because he's lost elimination games, but closeout games. Yeah, but not game sevens.
No, he has lost. No, no, it's closeout games.
Oh, with an opportunity to win. Three wins.
Yes. Yeah, closeout games.
Okay. He's not lost.
So that's cool, I guess. Yeah, listen, the Mavericks are good.
I know that there's some rivalry baked in between the Mavericks and the Celtics. Kyrie did step all over Lucky the Leprechaun.
It's going to be a big time Lucky revenge series if you're lucky enough to make it through the Pacers Hank. I would be worried about whoever came out of the West to be honest.
Yeah. Yeah, it'll be a fair fight.
This game was awesome though. Derek Lively was incredible and Derek Lively fun fact goes back to last year when the Mavs got fined $750,000 for tanking the final two games.
Now, teams tank all the time. They got fined specifically because they were like, hey, we're tanking, and they said it out loud.
But they tanked for a specific reason because if they had stayed at the 11th spot in the standings, they would have had an 8.5% chance of keeping their pick because it was a trade that they would have had to lose their pick. They tanked.
They ended up having a 79.8% chance of keeping their pick. They get the 10th pick.
They trade the 10th pick with the Thunder at 12, and they take Derek Lively. So they traded Derek Lively.
The Thunder technically took Derek Lively at 12. They get Derek Lively.
Derek Lively was the difference in that game. He had 15 rebounds.
Yeah, his rebounding is everywhere. And his defense is awesome, too.
He's a good role player on the Mavericks. They've got a couple of those guys.
P.J. Washington, I think it's disrespectful to call him a role player at this point.
I mean, he got a little bit cooler the last two games, but he still hit the big shots when he needed to because there was a couple games where he was scoring like 25 points hitting every three. I just wanted to remind people because I remember specifically last year, people were very upset at the Mavericks because I think they started tanking when they technically were still alive for the play-in yeah they didn't want that I'm a big proponent for a team to do that because the play-in is a joke as someone who gets hurt by the play-in every single year they created the play-in to give the illusion of playoffs to all these teams the Mavericks made the right decision they got a good young guy who can help Luka in his prime win a title this year instead of trying to make and probably failing to get in the play-in, and then if they're in the play-in, probably failing to get in the playoffs, and even if they're in the playoffs, losing to the Nuggets.
And then trying to sign a free agent or trying to lure another guy in there to make a super team. Right.
Get a good role player. Tanking works sometimes.
Were the Heat in the – they were in the playing game, but what seed would they have been last year? What do you mean? So they were the eighth seed last year, right? Yeah, they were in the play. They hosted – yeah, they lost the first one.
And they beat the Bulls. They would have been the seven if there was no play.
They would have been the seven. So they are alumni of the play-in tournament, but they did not benefit from the expanded play-in field correct yeah correct they didn't they didn't end up like oh a team all the way from the play-in yeah this is a it was a weird ending of this game too where they had the free throws at the end yeah and so he makes two of them misses the third one intentionally with two and a half seconds left chet looked like he was in disbelief after the game was over.
He could not believe that they lost that game. It was close.
Well, Chet, I like Chet. The Thunder have a very promising future, which is also a scary thing to say to the Thunder fans because they had a promising future before they traded James Harden.
Chet, you need someone else out there to help with Chet because he is not like what he had. He had like three rebounds.
He's not a traditional big. I actually think you want to hear this one.
I think the Thunder should draft Zach Eadie. Interesting.
Twin towers. Enter careful Grant.
A little, little, little, this little that. Yeah.
You know, you got the n three-point shooting skinny uh center and then you got a little bit more of a traditional center in zach edie dj burns i like yeah why not get get a big boy and get a college all-star team i like it i don't hate that idea so you're off the kevin durant to the thunder train no i'm still on that him and him and uh and chet sandex each other look very very funny i'm still on that i i actually think that the i think kevin durant on that. Him and Chet Sandex would look very, very funny.
I'm still on that. I actually think Kevin Durant wants that.
I don't know if the Thunder want that. If I'm a Thunder fan, I don't know if I'd want that either.
But the Thunder have a bright future. I don't know why everyone has written off the Mavs.
It feels like everyone just assumes whoever wins the Wolves Nuggets was going to beat the Mavs quickly. I think the Mavs are going to give.
Again, when you have the best player, and Anthony Edwards is very, very good. I still think Luka, as of right now, is better.
And if you have the best player in a series, you have a puncher's chance every single time. Every single time.
They're not out of it. No, I think it's going to be a good series.
I think the Mavs played really good defense against Thunder. They have some really good role players.
If you get them to a closeout game, Kyrie Irving literally does not lose those. That's true.
Again, I feel like touting the closeout game stat is weird when you got injured and your team lost. When you lost in five to the Warriors because they technically didn't have a close a close also also some of those closeout games are are on lebron's stat sheet too correct so when was the last time that kairi irving made it this far it had to be when he was with the caps they well they won they won they beat the year that he got hurt uh they won the first round match and then they he got hurt before the series against the bucks in the second round that they took the bucks to seven uh and kevin durant stepped on the line you know for the three-pointer yeah um but yeah the closeout game stat is it sounds awesome but then you're like wait but you've lost series before i don't think he's been to the the it's western conference finals the last time you know far in the playoffs, I think was probably like 2018, 2017.
A long time ago. What was the farthest he made it with the Celtics? No, he got hurt.
He got hurt. Yeah, he got hurt and he was out.
So yeah, it's been a long time. But he's 14-0 in closeout games, PFT.
You want to let everyone know that. Yeah, 14-0, that's the important stat.
14-0 in closeout games. Doesn't count the, yeah, losing in five to the Warriors.
That doesn't count because you never have a chance at a closeout game. Yep.
You just get him to a closeout game, and he'll win that shit. So you guys all have the Wolves in how many? I got Wolves in seven.
Oh, okay. So I can deal with that.
I would have had the Lakers in five if they had made it this far. Yeah.
Lakers probably would have beaten. I mean, the Lakers would have beaten these Nuggets.
Yep. These Nuggets are not those Nuggets.
Game seven Nuggets that miss every shot. Yep.
Well, game seven second half Nuggets. Yeah.
Yeah. Lakers smoke them.
By the way, going back to the Knicks real quick, real leader move, which I love from Jalen Brunson. Someone asked him, was like, given everything this the growth you guys have had how far you made it was as a success he said no love that okay that's good I like that I love that answer I like that shit um I got Mavs in seven Mavs in seven I'm starting to believe in the Mavs I don't know it's just and and that game six as good as the end of the game was if're an NBA hater, the first half you would have had a lot of material because Luka has never been more annoying to the refs than he was on Saturday night.
I don't know if you saw. I thought he was going to get kicked out of the game.
I don't know if you saw the foul. I think it was the foul against P.J.
Washington. Luka called the foul before P.J.
even hit the ground. Yeah.
He had that that call before the ref did he was turning his head on slow-mo it was lightning fast reflexes to call a foul for a ref also i can't believe we didn't open up the show with this bad job on our part this is very important speaking of uh of the knicks this day 35 years ago jordan scores 40 at Chicago Stadium in Game 6 of Eastern Conference Semis to beat the Knicks. This day, 35 years ago, Jordan scores 40 at Chicago Stadium in game six of Eastern Conference semis to beat the Knicks.
In my check collection is the phone bill he paid that day. Darren Revell.
That's huge. That's awesome.
That's huge. It's literally a bill.
Yeah. He paid his phone bill.
But he has it. He has it that same day.
Yeah. He's quite a weirdo.
Yeah. The weirdest of the weirds.
All right, so, Hank, give us a Celtics-Pacers series prediction as well. Celtics in five? Five.
Okay. So that would easily cash my under four and a half losses that I said before.
Yeah, I could see maybe going six, but definitely not seven. Okay.
And Kristaps is going to be back. Yeah.
Woj said it's imminent, right? His return is imminent? Yeah. That's huge.
Less than several. That's what we're down to now.
Yeah, I think Celtics-Mabs would actually maybe be the funnest matchup. Yeah, that would be fun because you'd get to go to Dallas.
I didn't think about that yeah that's crazy yeah more on that later when we have mr bing bong on jerry o'connell uh we should probably talk about the pj championship yeah let's talk about what happened on friday morning yeah so we recorded part of my take go to sleep wake up in the morning first thing that I saw, tweet alert, Jeff Darlington reports that Scotty Scheffler has been arrested outside of Valhalla. And I don't know about you guys, but when you saw it, what was your first reaction? The same as mine, which is like, this is simply not true.
I read it as Scotty Scheffler killed a man. Same.
That's how I read it. For the first 30 seconds that I had my eyes open, I was like, Scotty Scheffler ran over

someone.

Holy fucking shit.

Did you really?

You thought Scotty Scheffler just pulled a Tony Stewart.

Yeah.

I was like, this is crazy.

I saw the mugshot and I was like half asleep.

I was like, Scotty Scheffler arrested.

Person died from a car accident.

I was like, oh my God. Yeah.
Oh, because it got lumped in. Yeah, there was a pedestrian fatality, unfortunately, in the morning.
So I read that whole thing together, and that's what I thought. I was like, oh, my God, this is crazy.
It's the wildest golf story maybe ever. Well, Tiger Woods happened.
Yeah. Tiger Woods, there was a lot of wild.
You could do Tiger Woods Part 1, Tiger Woods part two. I wouldn't say it was the craziest thing.
But I think it's- You know what you just did? You just did your RG3. RG3 said that.
But wait. It's like, this is the craziest sports story ever.
Everyone's like, dude, Aaron Hernandez? It's not, but why it might be up there for craziest golf story. I'm not talking about just the getting arrested part, because obviously Tiger has him beaten just in terms of quantity yeah that one but in terms of who you would expect this from yeah waking up to see scotty scheffler has been arrested the morning of a pga championship and thrown in jail for in charge with a felony uh assault on a police officer and it's scotty scheffler yeah that's the crazy part but tiger woods was sc Scotty Scheffler.
But he wasn't like. Yeah, he was.
He wasn't like Scotty. Yeah, he was.
Mr. Super, super squeaky.
Yeah, he was. Not to the same extent.
Before Tiger Woods got the Thanksgiving with the car and everything, he was like the perfect guy. No one knew that any of that shit was going on.
But Scotty is just so very much. I think you're forgetting how like squeaky clean Tiger Woods was.
I remember. I do know that he had a great image back in the day for sure.
I remember it. I remember Tiger Woods.
It's been so long that we've known the other Tiger Woods that it clouds who the original Tiger Woods was. He was like a brand.
I remember like stories where brands are coming themselves, this gift from the heavens of Tiger Woods, who's never done anything wrong. He was born to play golf.
Yeah, but Scotty, in terms of just everything that you've seen from him on, if it's the full swing behind-the-scenes documentary, his interviews. Oh, it was shocking.
He's like a very boring, very nice guy. Yes.
That's why him getting arrested was no holy shit it was shocking i just remember so vividly when tiger woods that whole thing happened i was like what he's and he does what in a perkins restaurant yeah what and all the text messages coming out yeah credit to scotty's lawyer by the way for i don't know how this normally works for regular americans but if you get arrested for felony assault on a police officer, do they usually let you out in two hours so you can make a tee time? So I think that police officer might've been a little embarrassed with who he arrested after the fact. I would think so.
I think he might've not realized he was arresting the number one golfer in the world. And then after it was like, yeah, he dragged me uh on the ground and my pants ripped because reading that police report there's just no way that scotty sheffield would have been let out like 30 minutes after yeah it said i think the police report the officer's pants valued at 89 were damaged beyond repair which by the way if you read that if you He will buy those.
I would actually buy those. I would too.
I'd wear those. The way that it's- well, you can't because they're beyond repair.
Yeah, we'd find a way. He massacred those pants.
We'd find a way. They're the most destroyed pants in America right now.
But if you read that police report and just take it at the text value of it, he might have shit his pants. Oh.
It didn't say, like, the pants were torn. It didn't say the pants got run over.
It said the pants are damaged beyond repair. This officer might have shit his pants and destroyed his own pants, and then now Scotty Scheffler's getting arrested because he made a police officer poop in his pants.
That would be awesome if he pooped his pants after the fact. Like the whole thing goes down.
Yeah. Then he arrests him.
And then his sergeant's like, hey, you realize you just arrested Scotty Scheffler? And then he shits himself. Yeah.
And there's a few golfers on tour right now where it's like this guy got arrested for doing that. Then you'd be like, okay, that sounds, I guess, not totally crazy.
It's still crazy. Like if you told me John Daly did this, I'd be like, okay, yeah, fair enough.
Phil. Yeah, Phil.
I'd be like, yep sounds i guess not totally crazy it's still crazy like if you told me john daly yeah did this i'd be like okay yeah fair enough phil yeah phil i'd be like yep something something happened um but the folks is a little bit of a bad boy i don't think he would get arrested but it wouldn't i wouldn't be like what yeah but he'd be it'd be cool if he did he would be he would be definitely a cool way to get arrested great mug shot from him the fact that scotty then shot a 66 yeah yeah. Yeah, that was pretty impressive, and he almost eagled the first hole.

I thought that he was going to go out there and shoot lights out in his first round,

because I don't know if you guys have ever been arrested, but the way it kind of goes

is-

None of us have.

Yeah.

What do you mean?

Oh, the dog thing?

Yeah, I've been arrested three times.

Same.

Pained at dogs. Spent a couple nights in the slammer oh yeah you got you for brady four no but like legitimately what happens is you get let out of jail in the morning and then you're like that's pretty fucking cool like you're kind of feeling badass and then the next day is when all the repercussions and the thoughts about your future did i really screw this up start to sink in so he's he's riding off the high of all the adrenaline of breaking the law because that's a cool feeling yeah and then and then on saturday how the fuck i still don't think like so scottie sheffler got arrested on friday morning it was an all-time internet moment it was crazy goes out and shoots It's a 66.
I know this is nuts to say, but I'm just going to say it.

I still think that the fact that his caddie skipped Saturday is a bigger story. That's so crazy to me.
He sucked on Saturday. He's a system golfer.
Ted Scott is the system. He's the reason why Scottie's so good at golf.
And that one shot that he had that ended up behind the fence. Yeah.
I would have loved to have my caddie there for that one. I would have loved to not be Scotty's best friend who's on his bag being like, Scotty's like, what the fuck do I do? I don't fucking know, dude.
Yeah. Why didn't you just have your caddy FaceTime his son? Call over another rules official, please, because I don't know what to tell you what to do.
That, like, I don't want to say it cost him the tournament, but Saturday was bad for him, and he shot great again on Sunday when Ted Scott came back. What did Scotty end up shooting with Ted Scott on his bag? It was probably insane.
He was like 600 today? Yeah. I mean, that was a very unfortunate graduation timing.
You know what's really? They should have. Sky Shuffler has enough money.
He should have just paid for the graduation to be on Monday. That would have been a great flex.
Not a idea just be like hey guys what i really love about the timing of all this though is xander shuffley wins yes but it's majorly overshadowed by scotty scheffler getting arrested so now we can continue with our running theory of xander shuffley will never win a major can't win the big one because we'll all forget about this one this This was the Scotty Scheffler tournament. Yeah, Scotty Scheffler shot a 67, 66, 73, and a 65.
So if you just say that he shot a 67, which was his worst score with Ted Scott on Saturday, he still wouldn't have won the tournament. Okay, that makes me feel better.
Yeah, but vibes. he probably would have gone super low on Saturday.
Yeah, but Xander, incredible performance by Xander, especially because he did have to earn it. The moment in the back nine when he lost the lead for a minute, I think he had a bogey, and then he had great shot after great shot, and even at the end, when he was playing a little safe with three holes to go, but he actually had to birdie 18 to win the tournament, was awesome.
And Xander Shoffley, I know we'll keep going with the he can't win the big one, but he was the only player in the top five world rankings without a major championship. He had made 25 major cuts in his career.
In those 25 major cuts he made, he had 13 top 10s, seven top fives, and four second or third place finishes. He was like the guy ready to do it.
Like he had been so close so many times and playing such good golf. So, I mean, and short Kings,

very short King.

Yeah.

That bunker,

that's totally normal.

That's above average.

He could be anywhere from five,

seven to that's a five.

You're not lumping five,

10 guys in with his short Kings.

Uh,

well,

I mean, he's listed at five,

listed.

So he's like,

he's like Bronny.

He's between five,

seven and five.

He's like Bronny.

So,

uh,

was it on 18 that he had to hit that shot standing in the bunker,

the ball on the lip of the bunker. That was a super hard shot hard shot yeah and so he had to respond big time bryson played bryson got so lucky too bouncing it off a tree having it land in the middle of the fairway yeah and i had never noticed this about bryson before maybe you guys have you know every golfer has the yardage book that they put in their back pocket that giant book and so his name is bryson de chambeau he has two middle names one of them starts with an a so he just has the word bad sticking out of his out of his back pocket wait he has two middle names yeah he's got two middle names how the fuck does that work i don't know i think the second the first one starts with like the letter l so he just doesn't acknowledge that one wait oh that'd be funny if it's bald if it's bald yeah no it's i think it's bad i think it's blad but he's just walking around with bad sticking out of his ass do we like bryson now because i kind of do i was rooting for him i can't so yeah here's what happened to me i'm rooting against xander shawley simply for the narrative of correct xander shawley not being able to win a major and i find myself rooting for bryson on sunday on the back nine i'm i in every single one of Bryson's shots.
And it was a very strange feeling for me. He did do something.
Because I said it a couple weeks ago. I watch his YouTube videos and I found myself liking him more.
And I think he birdied one of the first few holes and he walked off and looked at the camera like he was doing a YouTube video. He said that after.
You're for my major championship, dude, my Bryson, the fact that I like him now, I've wrestled with this because I had the same feeling PFT where I was like, I think I even tweeted. I was like, am I rooting for Bryson right now? I think I am.
Brooks squashing the beef definitely helped us get there. I do think he also has gone a bit of the jj watts story arc where if you're so beyond corny and like do everything for the camera if you can just dial it back a little and be a somewhat normal person we'll immediately just be like you rock we just got the drive in him to produce all this content put it out there so uh someone asked him about that hank uh someone said you had some really big moments on the course this week.
We're celebrating. How have you kind of embraced being a true showman on the course and celebrating those big moments? He said, yeah, it's actually funny.
YouTube has helped me understand that a little bit more when the moment comes knowing what to do, what to say, how to act is really important. You know, when I was younger, I didn't understand what it was.
Yeah. I would have a great celebration and and whatnot but I didn't know what it meant and what I was doing it necessarily for now I'm doing it a lot more for the fans and for the people around and trying to be a bit of an entertainer that plays good golf every once in a while so he did that answer he did that for us yeah he thank you he has come all the way back around where he's like I I can't just be so weirdly standoffish and corny.

I have to be a little bit of a human being, and it works for him now.

I feel like he's come into his own.

Did you also see the clip where he threw the ball to the little kid and an adult grabbed it and tried to run off?

And he stopped.

This is the middle of the tournament.

Stopped and was like, get back here right now, and made the guy give the ball to the little kid.

Yeah, Ravel did not want to give that ball away no that rocks right i i like bryson how i okay i'm not ready i'm not ready to say that that i like him just because it's a weird feeling it's like my body's confused watching him it's like wait i always thought that i've not liked watching this kind of stuff and now it's on i'm like wait is is my body telling me i kind of like it a little bit yeah and so it's a very confusing time but it was yeah i'm closer to liking bryson than i've ever been i'm bright sexual maybe it's bryson is like an ipa like you drink an ipa when you're 22 yeah and you're like this is gross and you get a little older you're like oh this is kind of nice different flavor yeah cool yeah i'm not i'm not opposed to it yeah i don Yeah. I don't want more than four or five.
I don't think I'm going to go up to him and thank him for all the content that he puts out and tell him that I love what you do online. If I ever saw him, I definitely would.
Just to say. But it's getting closer.
Just to say that. We're getting closer.
Yeah, Bryson. Damn.
Is he the only guy who went to live and became cooler? Brooks. Brooks.
Well, Brooks was already cool. But he's so cool.
But he didn't have – there's nothing he does makes him cool. He's already the coolest.
I'm saying Bryson went to live. Everyone has gone to live, and it feels like they've taken a ding in terms of public perception.
Bryson somehow has beaten that. Yeah.
Jon Rahm is a shell of himself.

Did he not make the cut?

What's the story with Greg Norman?

Everyone loves him now.

Oh, yeah.

He was probably there.

Remember he hurt his hand from shaking so many hands at a gun?

Yeah.

Yeah.

People were probably coming up to him.

So he's gotten more.

Yeah.

His image has improved.

Yeah.

Blocky didn't make the cut either.

Didn't finish dead last.

Hide Tiger. Blocky being all over TVs during this tournament was so funny.
That was, yeah. I kind of wish that had never happened.
Nah. That hole in one.
That hole in one was cool. Yeah.
Yeah, the hole in one was cool. All right.
Yeah, that was cool. Yeah.
So Tiger not looking so great. That was tough.
It's tough watching him out there. Also, for guys like us who love the course, what a fucking pussy Valhalla is.
Yeah. Got absolutely demolished.
Did you miss that? What? This is from Justin Ray, one of the best in the business when it comes to golf statistics. All right, just give us a stat.
We're giving the attribution. Lowest combined score to par by field.
PGA Championship history. 2024 Valhalla.
214 under par. The next, 1995 Riviera.
40 over par for the field. Wow.
That's crazy. Wait, what course was that? Riviera.
40 over par? 40 over par. Yeah, it's all the scores combined.
The entire field. Respect.
The best ever by the field in a PGA Championship before this year was 40 over. That's insane.
This is 214. I mean, think about it.
Let's see. I'm scrolling down.
The 72nd position was under par. braden shattuck went minus one and he finished 72nd by himself that's nuts it's embarrassing it's easy i we were there arresting the best players yeah so they're arresting the best only defense they have so it's an important question um if you're a real golf fan you're asking yourself this this morning.
Should the PGA Championship ever come back to Valhalla?

You arrested the number one guy in the world.

Your course got its pants pulled down.

But it was a great finish.

It was a great finish.

And they have great finishes there.

It was a great finish.

And no, I got no other and.

And guys had to walk miles on Friday.

Yeah.

I think it was Willie Z and a few others.

They had to get out of their car and just walk to the clubhouse. Who says these guys aren't athletes? Yeah.
Can I also just say one thing about the golf broadcast and just watching these majors, which, you know, watching major golf is awesome. It's the best.
When you have a weekend, I already know what weekend the U.S..s open is it's the best can they just stop trying to like will rory down our throats the guy isn't like yeah he competed at st andrews he was close there it feels like every major we watch rory is you know teeing off early on sunday he makes a couple good shots they try to show us like well look out for Rory. Yeah.
What do you mean look out for Rory? He was 10 strokes off the lead. I think you become a lookout for this guy.
It's usually early in your career if you win a few tournaments early. Then you're just going to be talked about for the rest of your life.
Like, if you're out there, uh-oh, Rory's lurking. He finished nine strokes off the lead, and they were showing him, like, down the stretch being like, man man if he strings together a couple birdies here he could be in the clubhouse seven strokes off the lead yeah they're always going to do that for life for rory it's just every time speed to speed the lead but rory it feels like it's just way too much and it's just come on i don't need i want to see the live shots don't let me miss a live shot because you're trying to tell me that Rory could get six

consecutive hole-in-ones and then still be three strokes off the lead.

They were playing a lot of old clips of him winning there in, what, 2014?

14.

Yeah, so the tie-in to the course was important for them.

They want to highlight him as much as possible.

But when they showed those clips, it really hammered home.

He doesn't look like the same golfer that he was back then. No.
for rory look out for rory rory lurking i'm gonna keep you know what i'm good i don't need to look out for him anymore i'm gonna keep looking out for him i'm gonna remain vigilant you're gonna you're gonna stand back and stand by yeah i'm not done with him yet all right anything else before we do who's back of the week uh sees the gray one the Preakness. Kind of a disappointment because we wanted to see a triple crown and maybe an asterisk with Mystic Dan.
Yeah. It would have been good for the sport.
Yeah, Randy Moss nailed his pick on Friday. Shout out, Randy.
He did. If you listen to Randy, he gives you the picks on Friday, and they always hit.
Yeah. And, yeah, it was a great sports weekend all around.
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Hank, who's back of the week?

My who's back of the week is NASCAR fights.

Oh, I had a two.

It was great.

Yeah.

Late Sunday night.

Who was it?

K. Soprano.
Kyle Bus two. It was great.
Yeah. Late Sunday night.
Who was it? Kyle.

K. Soprano.

Kyle Busch.

Rowdy.

And Ricky Stenhouse Jr.

They're calling him Rekki Stenhouse Jr.

Yeah, I'm assuming it's because one of the guys drove the other one off the road.

Well, here's the crazy part about this fight.

If you haven't seen the video of the fight, it's awesome.

I think everyone in the world hates Kyle Busch.

And every time, I don't, but I'm saying like all the other NASCAR drivers do.

Every time Kyle Busch gets in a fight, it takes me a second.

I'm like, is this Joey Logano?

Yeah.

And then I'm like, no, wait, no, it's not.

It's Kyle Busch.

But Ricky Stenhouse crashed in I think the second lap.

So he waited around for 198 laps to fight Kyle Busch after the race.

Respect.

I'll see the second lap. So he waited around for 198 laps to fight Kyle Busch after the race.

Respect.

So much. Yeah, if you're waiting for that long, you have to throw points.

And then they had a confrontation, and Stenhouse was just having a –

it looked like they were having a conversation.

It was just like talking to each other.

And then at one point, something snapped in Ricky's brain.

He's like, fuck it, I'm just going to throw hands.

And it looked like he got two shots in, didn't knock him you got to knock him down yeah yeah i would like to see and and kyle didn't fight back so i don't know if he knew that a punch was coming or not but he does have a punchable face well some of the other guys like some of the other team members came in and they were they were fighting after yeah the crew started that's my favorite part it's great because it does feel like n NASCAR has a special level of bad blood in all these fights. Because they see each other every weekend.
They're wrecking every weekend. Yeah, these other guys just hopping in.
Just grabbing them. Awesome fight.
I would hire an MMA guy to be in my garage if I was a NASCAR driver. Just ready to unleash him at any second.
Kyle Busch does have a punchable face. Do you guys do the same thing where you're like, is that Joey Logano? I think it's Joey Logano because I'm like I would like to punch Joey Logano.
Yeah, I think it's just every time I see someone getting in a fight, I'm like oh, here comes Joey Logano getting punched again. Yeah, whenever something bad happens to somebody on the internet, my first thought is usually I hope that happened to Joey Logano.
Yeah. Ricky Stenhouse Jr.
might be just, I mean, he was born to be that's a NASCAR name through and through. I'm sure his dad, I'm sure NASCAR people are going to be mad at me.
I'm sure he's like fourth generation NASCAR. His name's probably actually just Ricky.
Yeah. Also like Ricky Bobby.
Yeah. So Ricky.
But Stenhouse and a junior. Well, down and hard junior.
Yeah. A Ricky or a junior? Yeah.
No, you're proving my point. right right right I'm going to look up Ricky Stenhouse and make sure let's see how many lines is Stenhouse I don't know I'm sure there's probably many it was a good fight though love a good scrap from the boys.
Yeah. Great.
My Who's Back of the Week is interns. We're finally doing it.
We're going to post the link for people to apply to be our PMT summer intern this summer. Oh, boy.
Looking for someone in Chicago local. And just fill out the submission form.
There's a place to put in videos and your resume stuff like that we'll probably do interviews the next couple weeks and then start after basketball ends okay what are we looking for I don't know that's what I'm excited to find out short or fat no oh you can't say that they can be they can be any size short and fat would be great smaller smaller than me or wider than big cat yeah we can be any size. Short and fat would be great.
Smaller than me or wider than big cat. Yeah.
We can't say sizes? I don't think so. Okay.
Strike that from the record. We would like a very accomplished, qualified young man or woman.
Or older. Or older.
We don't have to say young. Also, yeah, you're right.
Old. They could be old or middle-aged.

Submit some content that you've done.

Submit some content you've done. Yeah.

There is a video submission.

So it's like, if you're just going to email us with like, please hire me.

I would love to work there.

You won't even get a second look.

We're not going to look twice that.

Yeah.

But if you have made videos, do make videos.

Or have built a following on your own.

Like, it could even be a couple thousand people.

That does get you a little bit more of a look.

Good luck. videos or have built a following on your own like it could even be a couple thousand people that that does get you uh a little bit more of a look because it means that you're actually creating content you can't just be like hey i'm my friends think i'm funny i should be on the show yeah and also it's not going to be necessarily on the show right like it's not like hey we're hiring someone to just sit on the show and uh hopefully you'll be, but you might not be.
Yeah. Think about listening to this right now is the start of your own personal championship DVD.
Yeah. From here on out.
Especially if you're a short or fat person. I'm not going to say it again.
I'm not going to say it again. I'm not going to say it again.
You can't be really, really good looking. That's why we could say that.
I would agree that. Really Like, come on, dude.
Go get another job. Yeah.
Don't work with us. We're fucking mutants here.
Unless you have a good following and you make good content. No.
No, we can't hire someone who's super good looking. Although, what if they started dating Beyonce? Like a trained assassin out there just to start dating a famous female celebrity?

All right.

Good looking guys back in.

You're a Montana boy.

You can apply.

Let's just say this.

Jay-Z is welcome to join. Jay-Z, are we sure?

No, I'm not sure.

Should I be sure about Jay-Z?

Let's wait a little bit on that.

Okay.

Yeah.

How about Diddy, huh?

Not a good guy. Shocker.
Did shocker yeah what are you gonna say jake this past weekend it popped over my phone was five years since my intern interview there we go milestone i thought you're gonna that was gonna be a diddy comment um the diddy video interns interns interns? No, it's My Who's Back. Nothing else about the interns? No.
We'll post the links, apply, and then try and get it done the next couple weeks. Short and fat people.
All right. PFT? My Who's Back of the Week.
Max just keeps shaking his head. I want to do the Jim Calhoun.
Don't shake your fucking head. Why are you shaking your head, Max? Don't shake your fucking head.
Not a dime back. What's your issue, Max? I have no issue.
No, there's legal issues with me saying that we want short and fat people. Which isn't true.
Which is not true. It's something you could say, but I would never say it.
It's called satire, Max. It's big time satire.
Now, I've actually boxed myself out. We can't hire a short and fat person like i've fucked myself um my like my who's back of the week is shorts oh short season my other who's back of the week is uh sex story you almost got me on that well shorts are back yeah they are the weather's so nice so nice wearing shorts all i was waiting for big cat to just go what about fats shorts and fats both bad my others back of the week is sex stories from the olympics that's how you know the olympics are about to happen oh shit i forgot the olympics yeah this is how i found out okay actually uh the new york post put out an article about the beds that they built at the olympics this year they hired the same people from tokyo 2020 when they built the sex proof beds because of covid and they're like we can't have athletes fucking so they build these collapsible beds that are like stacked on cardboard boxes essentially they can support one person's weight as long as they're not too fat this is you're you're right like this is how the olympics just let us know they just something about sex yeah it's usually like they've airlifted in 500 tons of condoms that's another big story but this this is the second time in a row we're getting the sex bed story.
So they're making the athletes sleep in single beds. And they're built on these cardboard frames.
So it can't really fit two people space-wise. And even if they try to, then it would collapse.
Yeah. So I'm sure they'll figure out their way around it.
They'll probably just fuck everywhere else in the room. Yeah.
I mean, it is probably- These are the most athletic people in the world. I don't think they need a bed to have sex.
People that need a bed to have sex are people like- Or normal people like us. Yeah.
Like, if you don't have a bed, you're going to wake up in the morning, your back's going to be thrown out. Right.
But these people, they can do it anywhere. Yeah, I mean, it's the horniest collection of people in the world.
Yeah. Because they're all in sane shape and young, and they've been training for this moment.
The minute their moment is over, they're like, what are we going to do? We're going to eat McDonald's and have sex. Yeah, it's honestly great.
Yeah. Good for them.
Good for them. All right, my Who's Back of the Week.
I was going to say fights in general because the NASCAR fight, but we also had a heavyweight fight on Saturday. I don't know if you guys were able to tune in, but it was awesome.
Tyson Fury lost. Yusek beat him in 12 rounds.
It was an awesome fight because Tyson Fury did his classic Tyson Fury where he was out basically cold on his feet. In the ninth, right? And then still fought the rest of the fight and was close to winning it, but the right fighter won.
But it was just – Tyson Fury is just fun to watch fight because he just throws and you never know when he could be knocked out and then totally be fine the next round yeah I love it so I didn't watch the entire fight I did watch the highlights of the fight including the walkouts which Yusek won that yeah hands down and in the ninth round I saw somebody posted a video that was uh filmed in their own living room of their television so that one didn't get posted that one didn't get taken down online so I was able to watch it and it was impressive because Tyson Fury he gets knocked it's a knockdown but he never actually hit the ground they gave him a standing eight they gave him a standing eight count and then he came back and survived that somehow if you can get knocked out on your feet and then continue to fight for another uh two rounds you should almost get the win it was incredible to watch because he was and yusik was awesome and just like kicking his ass in that ninth round but still tyson fury i mean he's done it many times before he's like the one fighter when you watch i i chose my words carefully i was like tyson fury's in deep water because i knew he's the type of guy that if you're like, Tyson Fury's done, he'll come back and he'll just knock someone else out. Him and Nate Diaz.
Yeah, they just need to get knocked around a little bit. But it was a great fight.
I think it was Tyson Fury's first loss. So there's an automatic rematch.
I like that. But now Yusek is undisputed.
Yes. Undisputed.
He has them all. He's beaten everyone.
And then Tyson Fury, a little bit, maybe not the nicest thing when he was just like, oh, yeah, Yusek, he's Ukrainian. They're at war, so people feel bad for him.
That's why they voted for him. I was like, I don't think so.
I think he kind of knocked you out. I think he won.
I think he won the fight. Yeah.
All right, Jake, finish us off. My Who's Back of the Week is elite pitching oh we had elite pitching at wrigley field on in multiple ways yeah paul skeins on friday oh you were gonna talk about shoda i'm i said multiple ways i'm going chronological chronological order okay paul skeins i think he struck out the first seven batters he did he's awesome uh and then your guy shoda shoda on saturday yeah one0 walk-off.
Yeah. Some people saying controversial, but.
Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean, Cody Bellinger definitely hit it out of his hand. Yeah.
I don't care. The Cubs needed a win.
They can't hit for shit. But, yeah, Paul Skeens.
Paul Skeens is really fucking good. I love it.
I love it when young prospects step up and it's a big moment and they're better than you thought they'd be. Oh, yeah.
Having a sick pitching prospect who, I mean, he won the national championship last year, and he's already up doing this. He's awesome.
So what are the rules on- Shota, by the way, is under one ERA. I just want to say he's fucking phenomenal.
What are the rules on hitting the ball out of the catcher's hand? I would say that was probably illegal, but I don't care because it helped me. I would say, okay, that's fair.
Well, it was the transfer. So he tagged him, and then he transferred it, and then Bellinger kind of...
Knocked it out on the transfer. It wasn't like an A-Rod knocking out where he had to go out of the way.
His hands were up to slide, so it looked natural. Yeah.
I think that's why they didn't overturn it. Because the ump was screened off from that.
But I can be honest and say that, yes, he hit the ball out of his hand. Yeah.
My rule of thumb on all plays like these is, did they call it? They reviewed it, and they gave it to the Cubs. Yeah.
So they didn't call it. They called him safe, and then they reviewed it, and then the Cubs won.
Yeah, so I think that's the right call. And the Cubs needed to win.
My son, by the way, today, I took him to Wrigley for five innings, and he was like, Dad, there's the ticket lady. I was like, this is a proud, proud moment.
You should tell him that's Chuck E. Cheese.
I was just like, no, he's not Chuck E. Cheese.
That's my daughter. He knows the 50-50 raffle.
Again, we lost. He's a fucking mush.
But still, for him to be like, hey, there's the ticket lady. Yeah.
That's a pretty. Actually, I think he said, there's the ticket girl.
And it was, if you've ever been to Wrigley, everyone who works at Wrigley is 85 years old. I can't believe we didn't put that together sooner.
That your daughter is just like you. You both go places, spend a lot of money on tickets that don't get you anything.
Yeah. Well, my son was today with the ticket girl.
Yeah. My, my, yeah.
My daughter, Chuck E. Cheese.
Yeah. But they both.
No, but I'm saying you, you and your daughter are the same person. Yes, absolutely.
100%. Yep.
She's a troll too. Big time troll.
Trolls, trolls a lot. She trolls me a lot.
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Subban. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.
You can see him on ESPN for the Stanley Cup playoffs. He played many years in the NHL.
It is P.K. Subban.
P.K., first of all, thank you for joining us. We have a ton of questions, but I think we have to start with the game that you will be in the broadcast studio for tonight as we air this on Monday.
Game seven, Canucks-Oilers. So I guess the first question is, who do you have winning? And then if the Oilers don't win, are we as fans allowed to say that McDaviddavid can't win the big one well first of all i picked edmonton to win this series i believe in six so i got to check my bracket for exact numbers but i had edmonton winning this and uh you know i always bet on the players so when i think of who am i going up against or who am i going to watch play this round i'm saying saying Connor McDavid, he's had a couple cracks at this now.
I have to feel that his best hockey is going to continue to get better as the playoffs go on. And we're going to see more and more of it over the years.
So I just think that their team this year coming down the stretch, I thought they were playing such great hockey. I had the confidence to say, you know what? I think Edmont've been taking one this in six now that it's in seven games and i've seen the vancouver canucks now go you know lose their number one goaltender lose their number two goaltender have susie missed a game have guys in and out of the lineup guys banged up elias petterson you know kind of just woke up in game five right came alive came into the series really and is now having an impact I really think this is gonna be a tough game seven for Edmonton to win I I believe that I know that they had it all going on in game six but I think Vancouver at home uh you know coached by Rick Tockett you know these guys you know they're gonna have to fight for every inch you know McDavid and Dreid and dry sidle aren't getting any free passes and vancouver is definitely gonna you know they're

gonna clean up uh the fact that they took too many penalties in game six so i expect them to be more disciplined but i'm gonna ride with conor mcdavid when it's all said and done i'm gonna say that i think conor figures it out finds a way to get his team over the hump and into a conference final. Now, if they do lose, I think it's outrageous to think that Connor McDavid can't win a Stanley Cup or isn't good enough to win one.
I think people are insane for thinking that. I will entertain it on your podcast because I know who you guys are.
You guys have my respect for this game, and you guys obviously have earned a lot of people's respect. But for most people that talk about Connor McDavid, I don't even have the discussion with them about it because this guy's the best player that maybe we've ever seen play the game, skill-wise, stuff that he can do out there.
So it's a team sport. Hockey's the ultimate team sport.
You've got to have the horses to win. And I still don't think that their team on paper is good enough to win the Stanley Cup this year but it's not always about what's on paper right it's getting bodies healthy and and elevating your game at the right time and I'll speak for myself but I think I might speak for PFT as well when I say that Connor McDavid is so much fun to watch he's so good he's the best player in the sport we believe all those

things but we wouldn't be doing our job if we didn't latch on to a very easy can't win the big one narrative yeah that's like the best thing to do in sports is be like can't win the big one just put it in nba terms for me it sounds like he's the nhl version of chris paul yeah can't win Okay, well, hold on.

Hold on.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

No offense to Chris Paul.

Love Chris Paul.

Veteran guy. Granted out of the NBA.
Played at an elite level for a long time. Like, I got nothing bad to say about Chris Paul, but he's not in the same category as Conor McDavid in terms of impact in the sport.
Conor McDavid. Like, we're talking about putting the all-time greats together.
And who is the most talented? Connor McDavid is coming out of that group. There's no one even close that can do the things at top speed that he does night in and night out.
Guys, if he wants to put up three, four points a night, he can. That may not always result in his team winning a hockey game.
That's why the Stanley Cup is theley cup is the hardest trophy to win right is it's not just about an individual taking over a game i would though i would say this if the edmonton oilers lose in game seven and connor mcdavid doesn't show up on the score sheet or doesn't show to have been the best player one of the best players on the ice then a hundred percent there's got to be questions asked about why whether he and i didn't think in game six he shot the puck enough yeah he had three assists but i've seen him be way more aggressive than that so is he injured is he banged up uh is he a hundred percent i don't know but we have to see his best game come game seven of the season he has to and you know i give him credit though he's been extremely patient he's been a leader he's really grown into that role he hasn't tried to force the envelope he hasn't tried to do too much it really looks like he's settling to how he has to play to win in the playoffs and i think that that's what we have the people that know hockey and watch the game we see those things so yeah you can't you can't say that this guy can't win Stanley Cup. Well, we can.

He hasn't.

I'm definitely going to because it's fun to say that.

And he hasn't.

Chris Paul's been to a finals, right?

He did go to the finals.

Yeah.

Has Conor McDavid.

So, I mean, we can say all these things.

He lost to Giannis. Again, we don't want to.

This hurts me.

I like Conor McDavid a lot.

I love watching him play hockey.

But we wouldn't be doing our job if we didn't say this.

And we kind of got you in the argument right there because you started saying, like, if he doesn't show up in game seven, we got you. We drug you down to the desk.
I don't give any players a free pass. Connor McDavid at the start of the playoffs, I said, okay, I've seen this guy now four, five, six years in the playoffs where he's getting three, four points a game, but they're still losing losing so i'm saying that he's got to make adjustments in his game like sydney crosby did when sydney crosby if you watch sydney crosby's career his game changed like three different times man he reinvented himself and added things to his game that's why i still believe he's the best all-around player in the game today but as far

as skill and skill set goes that's connor mcdavid and he's still learning how to do that so it's

difficult to become a winner in this league it's not just based on you i think edmonton has enough

pieces but does he have the team the full team to win a championship i don't think you can put that

pressure on him listen he's gonna put the pressure on the team he wants to win so he's gonna say yeah

stanley cup or bust but when you look at the the national hockey league and teams to win the cup

Thank you. Put that pressure on him.
Listen, he's going to put the pressure on the team. He wants to win.
So he's going to say, yeah, Stanley Cup or bust. But when you look at the National Hockey League and teams to win the Cup, Edmonton's team on paper isn't where the Dallas Stars were, even the Vegas Golden Knights, Rangers, or Florida.
Doesn't mean they can't win. That's why you have the best player in the world, and you have Leon Dreisaitl, because you always have a chance when you have those guys on the ice.
So I looked up – should we have the time on ice per game conversation? Yeah, sure. I looked up the time on ice for Conor McDavid.
He plays – this year he played 21 minutes, 22 seconds per game. That was his average.
Nikola Jokic plays 40 minutes per game in the NBA. That's a lot.
Why doesn't Conor McDavid just play more? Patrick Mahomes, I think, took every single offensive snap. Full game.

For the Chiefs.

Full game.

And the Super Bowl definitely. Oh, yeah.

Okay.

So let me tell you why.

So in football and basketball, you can run out of bounds.

So Patrick Mahomes getting chased by a linebacker.

He can run out of bounds.

He doesn't have to get hit.

Where's Conor McDavid going if Zdorov tries to chase him around the ice?

He can't go anywhere.

To the bench.

Number two. It's a good point.
It's a fair point, so I looked up Christian Pulisic minutes per game. He plays usually the entire game in soccer.
Wow. Yeah.
Different sport. And by the way, two out of those three sports, you named football, basketball, and soccer.
Well, I'm going to tell you something right now. In terms of toughness, we're not going to talk about soccer with hockey players not taking it away from soccer but it's not even when they're not even in the conversation football's in the conversation different sport right a whole lot more players less players in hockey not only that you can't play the whole you can't play the whole game in hockey do you know how hard it is to play hockey? 45-second shifts, all out, going 30 miles an hour, blocking shots.
It's a different game. So I don't think you can compare Patrick Mahomes to Conor McDavid.
Yeah, because he plays the whole time. Maybe in terms of their impact, yes, and their skill set, yes.
But as far as how much they're on the field or on the ice, it's like apples to oranges. Okay, we're done fucking with you.
Welcome to part of my take. That was our pre-interview.
You guys got me warmed up now. I like it.
Let's go. You showed some fight.
The rings are off. Let's go.
Yeah, speaking of fighting, so we're hockey fans. I think we're probably the definition of casuals on this show but we love watching especially playoff hockey um the one thing that i am always missing in playoff hockey is more fighting and i just had an idea for a rule want to get your take on it what if you just said in the playoffs each team gets one fight per game and it doesn't get penalized people they don't want to fight in the playoffs because they don't want to take a stupid penalty.
They want to put themselves in a position where they might get bounced and their season's over because they fought somebody. Why don't we just do one fight per game and it's totally legal? You can do that.
Go back and send your guys back to the bench afterwards. Your enforcers skate off the ice.
They can come back whenever. But just one per game as like a free pass.
Leave fighting alone. If the players want to fight, let them fight.
How do you want to put a limit on it? If guys want to fight, let them go. Like, the reality of the game is today, you need guys that can play.
So if you end up going and drafting 22 guys that can play first-rounders, that can play in different positions, and they happen to know how to fight, great. You're going to have a really skilled and tough team.
It don't mean you're going to win anything. So, you know, what I'm saying is we saw Matthew Kachuk and David Pasternak fight in the playoffs.
What's better than that? Seeing two stars go at it, right? Like you want to talk about it. I would have loved to see Kobe and LeBron duke it out in basketball at some point in time, but that was never going to happen because in basketball, they don't let them fight.
Right? So what I'm saying is hockey has that special element to it that if the star players get, when they get emotionally engaged and this is what we love about the Stanley cup playoffs is that in other sports, I feel like you can play and not be fully engaged in hockey. You can't take take a shift off.
You can't. If you lose your focus for one second, that can cost you your season.
Or it can cost you your personal playoff run. You can get hurt.
Seriously hurt. We've seen guys get hurt.
Stanley Cup playoffs is no joke. When it comes to fighting, I love to see it in the game at the right time

and now every team usually has maybe one guy that can go a heavyweight guy i don't mind seeing them go once in a while but don't put a limit on it let the guys go they want to go let them go okay i like that that's even a better idea yeah okay so we talked about the oilers canucks uh waiting for them as the dallas stars who have looked really really good in these playoffs especially the first round, you know, in talking to our hockey

guys, Witt and Biz, they both

said, like, the first round. In talking to our hockey guys, Witt and Biz, they both said the Knights or the Stars could easily win the Stanley Cup.
The fact they have to play each other in the first round is crazy. But what is it about the Stars and the way they're playing? Is it just the depth they have and they just can roll out the lines? What has impressed you with the Stars thus far? Well, what's impressed me the most is uh let's give jim nil credit i mean to build this team the way that he's built it uh the credit has to start there and you know i took i started doing media not because i wanted to expose the players the players are the product i want to uplift the players and celebrate them I i'd probably be more inclined to be a little bit more judgmental and critical of management coaches and gms and stuff like that but when i see a gm that has been consistently making his team better every year and it's been a while jim mill's been at it right like to see dallas i've seen that team go through some shiftovers, some trades.
You talk about Radulov and different guys. Michushkin used to play there.
Guys who have come through there, and they've just managed to draft so well, bring in free agents, slot them in at the right pace. So I think that this is a team that has been so well built from top to bottom, and Jim Neal deserves a lot of credit.
Pete DeBoer, we know how great of a coach he is. So now he's taking those pieces and he's getting the most out of them every night.
But more importantly, it's structure, it's discipline, and it's giving everybody a role. Everybody is important on that Dallas Stars team.
When you watch them play, everybody's embraced the same way. And it starts with leadership.
Jamie Benn has been at it for a long time and he wants to win. And you can see he's the right leader.
You can see him physically, whether he has to step up and score a big goal, he's doing it, but it's their temperament for me. And listen, you have Joe Pavelski, you got Ryan Suter on the back end.
You got Jay Ottinger in net, who's in the top five goalies. It's just, for me, the main ingredient for them, outside of their veterans, their experience, it's the young players.
I mean, Stank Coven, Wyatt Johnston, like Steele. Like, these guys have come in and made a huge difference.
Without those guys, they're not in the position that they're in right now. Those guys are bringing a tremendous amount of energy and juice to that team that allows them to sustain that structure and that playing style game in and game out like you watch dallas they're rarely out of a game like when do you ever see them completely out of the game they're in the mix because they have a great balance of young and veteran players and it's the right mix right leadership and it starts with the management at the top dallas has they're in a perfect spot right now i.
I mean, they've got to be really, really excited about the opportunity they have. Yeah, yeah.
They have to rest up a little bit. So sticking out, Wes, actually kind of a bigger picture question for you.
Do you think this is as big as hockey's ever been in the history of the sport? I think it's a pivotal time. I think with the changing landscape in media and in sports in general, there's just been a lot of changes over the past, let's say, six to eight years, you know, just in the world in general and the shift.
And, you know, live television and sports has become right to the forefront, and it's just continued to grow. And I think that has opened up a lane for hockey because, in my opinion, since I game hockey is probably the only professional sport that has like an immense amount of room for growth you know like we're just tapping in to what like people are just discovering our sport in some ways and it's crazy because there's an immense amount of history there and that's what people hang their hat on that's what people want to celebrate is history and hockey's got a tremendous amount of rich history so once we get people to just sit down and and and get to know the game and understand the game and then you know once we get them that little bit of like intrigueness we have them you know we don't lose our fans we we our fans stay hockey fans stay they loyal fans.
So I think that coming over to ESPN has definitely helped using that platform. And we're trying to do the best that we can to grow the game.
But make no doubt about it, it starts with the players and the product. And it starts with guys like Conor McDavid, the Jack Fusers of the world, all these guys, the Lafreniers, even Annette, the goaltenders should stir.
It's just we have so much great talent in the game today from young guys that are in the mid part of their career to the veterans like Krasbino, Vetchkin. It's just a great mix.
And it's really entertaining to watch every night. Yeah.
So can you explain to us, maybe some people out there that are relatively new to hockey, what is goalie interference and why is it so hard to call? Well, OK okay so i get a lot of questions about officiating and everybody makes a big deal out of it um you know i was one of those players that i'd give it to the ref you know i was always polite never swore at them like but i was always engaged emotionally so i was very opinionated about certain calls but the one thing

that i've realized now is that one night i'll be sitting there watching and there'll be a call and i'll be i'll sound off on i'm like man like that's goaltender interference and then you know i'll do it i noticed there's a trend it's like every night i'm doing it and it's like we forget that like there's humans out there making these calls like it's not like it's not automatic and by the way it's so easy when you're watching the game to pick it out like most of the time now when i'm watching it i'm like man it's a tough job being a referee in the national hockey league in any sport i'm watching the nba nfl like we're really really tough on the officials and i think that because we have so many cameras now we have social social media, we can replay, we can break down, slow things down. It just gets more and more.
So I try to pick my spots. I think if something's egregiously obvious, I call it out.
But most of the time, it balances itself out. Like what? Some games you're going to get your power plays.
Some games you're not. Those games that you're not getting it, you got to work a little bit harder.
But the reality is that we all know his players. I'll give you an example.
Vancouver and Edmonton the other night. I know we're talking goaltender interference, but Vancouver, Edmonton, I'm watching the game and I see Zdorov going to the corner and let go of his stick to kind of let the player through so he doesn't have to impede.
As he moves his arm up, he grazes him in the head. Guy snaps the head guy snaps his head back gets a penalty Dakota Joshua same thing high stick in front of the net right accidental kind of comes up boom but here's what I'm saying it's like okay those are soft calls I don't want to see those called but you gotta know this in the fucking playoffs yeah you gotta have your stick down on the ice You bring your stick up around anybody's head or shoulders,

you're at risk to get called.

And in a game six or seven, I wouldn't even be taking that risk.

Don't make it a judgment call for the refs.

And I think that sometimes the players got to be smarter about how they play.

And it's not always about going into the corner or like a bat out of hell,

trying to get the puck.

Sometimes you got to be smart and be efficient. Read the clock, understand the timing of the game and don't put yourself in that position because the ref's got to make calls too.
But goaltender interference, here's what I say. I watched Connor McDavid last night.
He cuts back and he kind of goes in behind the defenseman to try to screen. If you're a player going to the net, you cannot slide in behind the defenseman.
It's one of the dumbest things to do as a forward because all the defense is going to do is back up because he's entitled to that ice he's going to back up you're going to hit the goaltender and anything that happens after that now it's a 50 50 yeah now you don't know like now so you got to stay above the blue paint if you're a player and stay out of the crease yeah do not get in the crease once

you're in the crease whether you're pushed in doesn't matter it's a judgment call for the rep

and then i'm not going to argue with the ref whether he thinks it's goaltender interference

or not you go to the net you got to go to the net hard you got to be responsible for your body and

guys are so smart they're so good at selling calls and you know selling when somebody hits them it's

just a difficult time to be a referee so you know it's it's a gray line but I always say you can't touch the goaltenders we have some of the best goaltenders in the league they got to be able to make the and it also I mean playoff hockey is great because you do feel like to win a Stanley Cup and to advance in all these rounds you have to get a certain, the goals that are, like, you know, deflections and guys in traffic in front and just, you know, lucky tip-ins and all that stuff. So it's so much fun to watch, and then you do get those 50-50 calls.
Some of the stuff that we've seen so far in the playoffs, I know you had a take on the Sam Bennettennett brad marshall punch you thought it was okay

because brad marshall has done enough uh in his past to to maybe get one going his way uh i mean i like i like all kinds of stuff in hockey like that no you're shaking your head no it was okay no and not because you misquoted me i'm not shaking my head to you i want to be clear on that but I heard so many people speak out on this and say,

Oh my God,

PK is a scumbag.

He said, misquoted me i'm not shaking my head to you i want to be clear on that but i heard so many people speak out on this and say oh my god pk's a scumbag he said that brad marshall deserved it and you know what i say to those people like even if that was my intent so be it i don't care about what any of you think anyway i wish i was still playing so i could go up against the bruins and run hell at td garden and all through b But I'm not playing anymore, so I got to call it real. Whether it's Brad Marchand, whether it's Sam Bennett, I'm calling it down the middle in the way that I see it.
I don't care. It has nothing to do with me playing in Montreal.
So people always want to tie me into that, and it's not that at all. What I said was this.
This is what I said. I said, Brad Marchand has gotten over on hundreds, maybe thousands of players over his career.
I've won a gold medal with Brad Marchand at the World Juniors. And by the way, I would say to sit next to Brad because, A, I know him personally, love the guy.
B, I respect his game, even though that we've gone head-to-head a million times. So anything I would ever say, I would say to his face.
Brad knows this. And this is why I was so proud of him in the interview that he did, because that's part of the game.
Yeah. Like, you got to toe the line.
And Sam Bennett, in playoffs, like Brad said, dude, 100% you're trying to hurt. Listen to me.
You

think that someone, go look at some of the highlights of my hits. You think I'm just trying to separate the man from the puck? Absolutely not.
I'm trying to make sure that he doesn't come down my side for the rest of the series. Well, you got to inflict pain to do that.
And when you do that, somebody may get hurt. And here's the thing that I'm going to say, playoff hockey at the end of the day it's one moment you're here the next moment you might be golfing guys are playing to put food on their tables money in their pockets feed their families and more importantly live out their dream of hoisting the stanley cup which by the way 700 plus guys dream dreamt about that their whole lives to start the season and it's going to come come down to 25 guys that are going to, you know, fulfill that dream at the end of the season.
So if you think that guys are going to go out there and tiptoe around each other and aren't going to look to take a shot at a dude, if he's exposing, he's a star player, you're nuts. You're absolutely nuts.
And I don't want that out of the game, by the way. I agree.
You're telling me that I've never been cheap-shotted before? You're telling me that Lucic, Marshawn, Chara, Boyd Jack, Ferentz, Gregory Campbell, Sean Thornton, McQuaid, you don't think that any of those guys, Chris Kelly, you don't think those guys took their shots at me when I was 19 or 20? And guess what? I love them for it. That's a part of the game.
Some days you're the dog, some days you're the hybrid, right? You got so fired up there, PK. I think your headphones I think your headphones.
Wait, wait. Talk again.
Can you hear me now? Yeah, you sound like you went underwater for a second. You got so fired up.
I liked it so much. Can you still hear me? It still sounds like you're underwater.
Hold on. That was a great speech.
Alright, that's better. No, but honestly, I'm going to go back to you.
Yeah, I like it. Keep going.
Because I get really upset about it because people try to take hockey and make it into something that it's not. And it's never going to happen.
Like, I'm telling you right now, they're going to have to take me off the TV screen because I'm never going to change my opinion of it. And it's because I know the players.
I know what the players want. We want that element of it.
Like, I don't care to anyone. When I watched Don Cherry's highlight tapes my whole life, that's what I grew up watching, by the way.
I watched more of Don Cherry Rock'em Sock'em tapes than I probably did of NHL hockey games growing up because all I wanted

to do was play in the playoffs and have blood coming down my head and raising a Stanley Cup

and stitches and the Bruce. That's what you dreamt about.
So for the average fan that sits

and watches it, that loves to put on the sweater because they're from Dorchester or they're from Toronto or they're from New York and they're from Staten Island and they're a fan of their team that's great and all but these players they're the warriors that go out and do the job they're the guys that actually go and take the hits and block the shots and get the stitches and lose the teeth and get the concussions and the broken bones and deal with the pain and the aches that they have to deal with for the rest of their lives right and everybody else has to do that in pro sports but they're not playing hockey they're not playing on a frozen you know piece of ice in a cage basically you know going at 40 miles an hour getting hit with frozen pucks and high sticks and losing teeth so the players want that because we're playing for the glory of it yeah that's why it's lord stanley the glory of winning a championship and being successful and having success in the playoffs is paying a toll and a price and everybody wants to pay that price don't take that away from the players like you're taking that away by trying to point out well this guy's guy's a dog. Yeah, of course he's a dog.

They're trying to get over on each other.

They're trying to win.

The best part about that series was watching Sam Bennett and Brad Marchand shake hands.

I mean, it's an F you to all those fans out there that try to take that component out of the game.

Yes, if you get caught doing it, we got to talk about it. You're getting suspended, you're getting fined.
But if you get caught doing it we got to talk about it you're getting suspended you're getting fined but if you don't we still got to celebrate it because that's those are elements of the game that impact who wins and who doesn't and i think it's important to have it's always been a part of hockey it should always be a part of it i'm happy i brought it up because that fired me up yeah you fired me the fuck up you're talking about people trying to get things out of the game what they're doing you can watch the slow-mo replays and you can take it frame by frame and then you judge somebody's intent and what they're trying to do based on this frame as opposed to what happened one millisecond before that and the game's played on ice you've got fucking razor blades on your shoes and like you said you're going 40 miles an hour at somebody sometimes they try to legislate it by like the smallest minor detail that they see on an instant replay which i don't think that's how that's not how any sport should be done no and and by the way like it doesn't have to be guys listen stanley cup final i'm playing out my dream we're in pittsburgh game one crosby I'm with Nashvilleashville i score the first goal of the stanley cup final it gets called back on philip forsberg's alleged toe being off the ice and the goal gets called back they take away the amendment pittsburgh scores three we come back tie the game but we end up losing right we end up losing series we had two goals call back i'm never going to complain about the officiating in any of those it's never going to happen because that's a part of the game i'm sure there were other games through that stretch of hockey during that playoffs where we got some favorable calls it's just the way it is yeah so you know i'm not going to sit and debate it every night with fans that want to try to take certain things out of the game. This is hockey.
I'm going to tell people again, if you don't like it, go play pickleball, go play volleyball, go pick, go ahead, go play golf. That this isn't the sport for you.
This is, this is for people that love the fact that guys go out and put their body on the line every night. They understand what's at stake when they take the ice, especially in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Yeah. Yeah.
So how bad does it suck to block a shot in the playoffs? Horrible. It's the worst thing ever.
I never, ever want to tell people that it's great. It's not.
It's not a fun part. That's why I have so much respect for players that do it.
And there's some guys who have to do it more than others. But everybody in the playoffs has to block shots.
And anybody that tells you it's fun, there's nothing fun about it. And I have respect for guys because when I played, I was pretty much shooting pucks over 100 miles an hour every time I was shooting those one-timers.
And there were some guys that never blinked to get in the way. And, you know, I've seen shattered hands, tibias, fibulas, shattered ankles, everything, you know.
And it's just once again, it's the price that you pay to play. So to get an opinion from people on the outside that have never blocked a shot, try to tell people what should be going on on the ice.
It's just I don't want to hear it. All right.
So in the East, we talked a little bit about the Panthers, Panthers, Rangers, though. Who do you have winning this series? And, I mean, the Rangers, like, it felt like they were headed towards an all-time collapse with that game, game six against the Hurricanes and being having to go to a game seven, like, oh, my God, they're up 3-0 and maybe a game seven.
Panthers look really, really good. Who do you have winning and why? So I'm going to pick the Rangers rangers and i'm gonna tell you why um i have to get into this explanation because it's detailed and it's very very important because it lines up the perspective of the series of things to look for i watched a game earlier this year i was away on vacation and it was between florida and the rangers and barkov I think was missing from that game.
I think Florida had Barkov missing. Maybe Forsling was missing.
The game ended up going into overtime. Rangers ended up winning an overtime or shootout.
And I watched that game. And after the game, the first thing that I said was, you know, Florida Panthers were the better team.
Like I thought they were the better team. They controlled play.
They shrunk the ice and the Rangers are going to have to be a whole lot tougher if they see Florida in the playoffs. And I'm sitting here now watching a Rangers team that has battled through adversity, that has shown that their power play and special teams can get the job done.
They've also shown that Artemi Panarin is hungry for the moment, not looking to shy away from it. Mika Zabinijad has shown up when they've needed him to show up.
He doesn't need to be Mika Zabinijad of when he was 23, 24 and dancing around the ice every shift, but he's got to be there to facilitate what she's done. They've gotten secondary scoring, Barkley, Goudreau, that's up their defense.
This is where I want to talk about it. The Rangers have a deep bearing of Lindgren and Fox that has done very, very well.
It'll be interesting to see what they do with their back end because this series is going to be just as much about matchups as any other series. I don't think the Carolina series and the Washington series was as important for the Rangers and for Florida to match up.
Probably more important for the Rangers than Florida. Florida just kind of plays the same style, but for the Rangers, matchups are going to be key because if you got Barkov and Matthew Kachuk on a different line, I know Peter Laviolette likes to have Lindgren and Fox against the smaller, speedier guys.
That's what they did in Carolina. They had Gensel and Jarvis against, right? They had Lindgren and Fox matched up against those guys.
So now he may have to change that up. And once you start changing up those matchups, it's all matchups now.
And I think that that's going to be the game within the game. I think that home ice is going to matter who gets the last change at different moments, but make no doubt about it.
To simplify it, this series is going to be played in the corners and in front of the net. The Florida Panthers are going to take what rink the Rangers have been playing on for the past two rounds.
It probably feels like an Olympic size rink and they shrink it to like a backyard rink, and they're going to make it feel that way. And that's what Florida does.
And if they do that to the Rangers, and they're able to do that for an extended period of time, the Rangers will be in trouble. But if the Rangers can play their game, move pucks, break out clean, attack through the neutral zone, draw penalties, play that wide-open style that we've seen them seen them play and they can grind it out but they're at their best when they're when they're attacking and their transition game is quick and they three-quarter ice the shit out of you you know on the ice every turnover is back up they don't dust it off they're not going d2d it's right back up to the forwards and they're right back at you if they play that game they will have a ton of success and uh i hope they do i i'm i'm pulling for the rangers i'm 93 30 years i want to see it happen this team's played good hockey all year i've watched them closely i want to see them do it but the florida panthers they're going to look to get that game going and if they do the rangers could be in trouble so what do the panthers have to do exactly to counteract what lavi let's going to be doing with the rangers how do how do they counteract his chess move well florida's going to play their game so the same game that you saw them play against florida and and i'm sorry against um now florida boston the same game that you saw them play in the first two rounds they're going to be playing that same game against the Rangers.
But there's going to be an emphasis on being physical on the Rangers' defense because this is where I think it's going to be tough for the Rangers. Carolina, in my opinion, didn't have enough skill up front to put the puck in the right places and make enough plays in tight to put enough duress on the Rangers.
They had spurts of it, but they couldn't sustain it. You need to sustain it and have that timely pressure.
Like Boston, Boston's structure gave Florida a little bit more trouble, but Florida didn't see their best game in that series. They were still like up and down, teetering.
You're going to see the best Florida Panthers in this conference final. And, you know, if you're the New York Rangers, I don't think you're going to see the best florida panthers in this conference final and you know if you're the new york rangers i don't think you're going to expect you know seeing getting goals scored you know from the the goal line and behind the goal line on babrovsky i don't see i don't see that happening too often if at all so they're gonna have to earn everything they get and uh you know but for the rangers a big key is going to be attacking flor's defense.
I mean, Mikola's got to step up and play. This is a guy that played for them.
They know him well. They have to continue to attack him, Kulikov, and Florida's defense.
You got to make it difficult on those guys because they're not as skilled as the Rangers players. They're not.
So you got to make it difficult on them. You got to grind them, wear them down.
But I think that the Florida Panthers, to have success against the Rangers, they're going to have to shrink that ice, which means a solid four check. F3's got to be above.
They can't be giving up odd man rushes and their D got to be active. We saw what happened when Carolina's D got active against the Rangers.
It gave them trouble. So once Brady Shea and Orlov started getting involved in the tack, it gave them trouble, but it also opened up room for New York Rangers transition game.
So I think for Florida, it's just playing that frustrating, airtight, solid game. I listened to Barkov's interview that he had actually just last yesterday, I think it was yesterday or today, and he had said that for them, they want

to think about defense first.

They think defense first. They're not

even thinking about offense. It's defense

first, and I think he's going to be the key.

If the Rangers can somewhat

keep that guy at bay,

Varkov,

he's a problem to handle. He's going to be

very, very difficult for them to handle, so

they're going to have to keep him at bay. Let me turn the light on.
Yeah. I'm pumped up to watch more playoff hockey with PK.
Yeah. PK just – he does a great job of pumping you up.
I'm also excited to yell at him. Well, let's go.
I'm ready. I'm ready for this.
I've been waiting all year for this. All right.
So I got a couple of other questions that maybe aren't going gonna pump us up um so true or false you used to save all your farts to use them on ice uh as a competitive advantage i think i remember i think i remember quoting that uh that's not true um have i probably dropped a few bombs on the i mean maybe i mean maybe. I mean, listen, if we go back to the days when I was eating chicken parm, you know, I don't eat dairy anymore.
So I'm sure there was a couple nights where that dairy wasn't, you know, wasn't working too well with my system, if you know what I mean. Okay.
Can you explain to me the chicken parm thing? I love how much hockey players love love chicken parm why is chicken parm the dish that hockey players eat listen i'm a little bit jealous that guys get to eat chicken parm like all the time i never got to do that i had to like like guys i put on weight so easily during the regular season like it didn't matter how many minutes i was playing like at my peak when i was burning like 3 000 calories a game i still had to be on like a program like i could put so my pre-game meal became super super tight as my career came on it was like sweet potato it was like veggies it was like chicken but 99 of the players they walk in a pre-game meal they got Coke, like pasta, like the biggest plate of pasta that you could imagine, like two chicken breasts, crazy sauce, cheese. And I'm sitting there eating like a rabbit.
And like, it's crazy. I get super jealous because I'm like, the food looks so good, but I never get to eat it.
So when I started my career, I was eating everything. And it's just what it is guys love it they love it so you would drop bombs at the beginning of your career uh to get a competitive advantage there was a few i'm sure i kicked out a few oh yeah all right so my other question was uh your name is pernell why did you never go by pernell it's fucking awesome name like was there ever a moment

where you're like maybe i'll switch because pernell is like that's a unique cool name you know so i'll tell you where pernell comes from it comes from pernell whitaker who was a championship boxer so my parents named me after him and carl's my father's name so that's where we get PK from.

But, you know, I was called pernell until like like to like kindergarten like grade two and then like it just switched to pk i don't know why it switched to pk whether i did it or my parents did it but it just ended up getting switched to pk and that sort of stuck i like pk because i don't know how many PKs have you met. Yeah, true.
And penalty kill. Penalty kill.
Yeah. Principal's kid.
My dad's a, you know, principal's kid. I got a few other nicknames for it, but I don't know if I can say it on the air.
What is going back to Oilers and how good their penalty, their power play is as a defenseman. What is the key to stopping a power play that is that good? And, like, what are you guys talking about before the series or before a game being like, this is what we have to do, otherwise we're toast? Well, stay out of the box.
Like, with Edmonton, you just got to stay out of the box. Some teams, you just can't.
Like, you can kill off one penalty. Let's just say one power play is a stupid one that you have to kill off for the game.
You'll kill that one off. You'll find a way to kill it off.
You know, maybe they don't get in the zone for a minute. They get in, you get lucky, you get a couple blocks, a couple clears, McDavid's tired, he gets off the ice and you're good.
But when you start giving them extra two or three power, you just can can't so the number one way to avoid having to deal with a power play is staying out of the box so and that's why people are so critical of the officiating because there's so many good power plays like like edmonton it's almost a guarantee that they're going to score or get a grade a scoring chance where your heart's like you know what i mean in your mouth So you want to stay out of the box. But as a defenseman, oh my God, I watched the way Vancouver killed penalties.
I loved it. They, you know, they, they had that net front D hold as long as he could in front of the net because it's an outnumbered situation.
When you're against Edmonton, they're going to continue to put you in outnumbered situations around the net as many different ways and as many times as they can for two minutes. That's what they do.
So you're constantly playing two-on-ones all over the ice. And because McDavid's such a good skater, he can create that two-on-one anywhere he wants.
So really, it just comes down to whether they're clicking or not against Edmonton. But for the defensemen, it's stay loose.
Just don't get tied up. Try to anticipate some plays and stay on your toes.
But you've got to take away the low ice. I would say this.
If they're going to beat you, don't let them beat you at backdoor tap-ins and easy tap-ins around the net. Let them beat you from a Bouchard point shot or something from outside.
You know let them let it have to go off two legs and into the net you'll take that but you can't have the backdoor tap-ins to dry sidle and stuff happen yeah it does feel like when you watch their power play that is what they're doing is they slowly shrink it shrink it shrink it and then all of a sudden it's like oh on the far side they have a two-on-one and there's gonna be easy goal and it's just like slowly happens where there's nothing you can do passing it around perfectly well it comes down to this how do you contain conor mcdavid you can't when he takes that puck and skates up top around the box all he's doing is shifting players so there's gray areas in the zone that aren't covered that can't be covered by the four guys that are out there he skates up top and skates into those zones and he puts you in a bind where you've got to make a decision you got to take something away and when you do he's finding the open option that's why he gets paid 14 million bucks a year 12 million to 13 because $13 million, because he does that continuously every single night. Yeah.
How do you contain him? You flip the calendar to June. You hand him his driver.
You say, go on, bud. It's time to hit the course.
We're just going to run with this narrative because it is fun. You have to admit it's a fun narrative.
We do it with every sport. Yeah, like A-Rod, Peyton.
Can't win the big one is a great narrative. What you have to do is you have to find the best player at an impossible sport to play and then figure out a reason to say, actually, they're not good.
Yeah, they can't win the big one. Yeah.
You know, I can't take myself there because I know how good he is. Yeah.
Yeah. Because I know he's that good.
But is he? He can't win the big one though but he can't win the big one like he guys people are saying he had an off year this year where he was like hurt banged up like off year how many points did he have how many assists 100 how many cups oh jeez we're talking we're talking the rings yeah okay hold on let's if you guys want to talk cups then what we should do is i should come back on we should we should look at conor mcdavid how many years has he played eight nine years in the league okay let's look at the eight nine years let's look at the teams he's played on and then we'll have a discussion on roster acquisitions trades okay drafting let's know let's have no no i know i know pk pk we could do the whole thing right now you ready here we go all right has conor mcdavid won the big one i think we know okay all right so you can throw whatever advanced analytics draft metrics. You can throw anything at us.
It sucks because I love Carter McDavid. When he came and played against the Blackhawks this year, I was like, I have to go to this game.
And watching him play hockey is an out-of-body experience. He looks so much faster than everyone else on the ice.
But, again, we have to, as our job, say he can't win the big one. They said that about Messi too, you know? And then Messi proved us all wrong.
And he won the big one. Now he won the big one.
So he can't win the big one. Before I say that, I would probably go through with a fine-tooth comb of management decisions in his tenure there.
And I would look at the teams that were built around him because again, because you have that much talent. I'm going to tell you there were missed opportunities.
I could say that I don't even have to go into the details of it. I can tell you this though.
There are missed opportunities with teams to go out and acquire certain players, drafting, all of that. Drafting is the biggest one.
That's why I give Jim Neal his props because that guy went out and drafted properly he did his research his scouts did their research they drafted well and now it's paying off dividends whether they win the cup or not people notice how deep their team is they have tremendous depth because of drafting so have the edmonton oilers drafted well well they drafted conor mcdavid they drafted nugent hopkins they drafted darnell Nurse. They drafted Bouchard.
They drafted some really good players, but there's a lot of other players that didn't work out that they drafted as well. There's free agent signings that didn't work out.
Like, that affects your team. You can't mess up in the draft.
You can't do that. I'm looking at their draft history right now.
It turns out they drafted Connor McDavid, who can't win the big one. That was the biggest mistake.
That was the biggest mistake. I don't know which side to count on that.
You know what? Should have drafted a guy who can win the big one. Connor's listening.
Connor's listening. Just collect your checks.
Fill your bank account. Your cup will come.
Yeah. It's coming.
And if it doesn't, we were right. I mean, that sounds good.
Well, no, no. Even if he does win, then we say we were right.
Yeah. He couldn't win the big one until he won the big one.
And now he's a guy that can win the big one. So who are your guys in hockey? I want to know who your guys are in hockey.
It's not Conor McDavid. Who's your guy? Well, I am a Conor McDavid fan.
I'm a Blackhawks fan, so I'm a Conor Bernard fan. Guess what? Conor Bernard can't win the big one.
I'm a Capitals fan. I'm being honest.
It turns out Alexander Ovechkin, he can win the big one. That's what I've always said about him.
That's what everyone said about him. Hold on.
Well, let's talk about that for a second, right? Yeah. Like, okay.
I don't think McDavid is in this, like, are he and Ovechkin in the same boat in terms of they can't win the big one? No, because Ovi won the big one. We got you all the way into a big one.
Well, hold on. We got you all the way into the big one.
I think Alex Ovechkin has played on much better teams throughout his career than Connor McDavid has. I will say that.
Yeah, he played on a team that won the big one. Listen, I love my guys Patrick Cade and Jonathan Tate.
They won a big one right away. They won multiple big ones.
I think PK is about to fight us through this television screen.

Well, he just realized this. We really

did. We basically were like, want to go

buddy? And you're like, I'm not allowed to go.

And then we got you to go.

The comparison to Patrick, comparing

Conor McDavid to Patrick Mahomes and doing that,

that was insane. Right, because Patrick Mahomes

could win the big one. You're right.
It's crazy.

You guys knew you were going to have me in a bind with that.

You knew you were going to have my balls in a bind. That's why you guys took me.
Yeah. Alright, so who is going to win the big one you're right it's crazy you guys have me in a bind with that you knew you were gonna have my balls in the fight that's why you guys yeah all right all right so who is going to win the big one this year who do you have well i had vegas winning it all i had vegas winning it all same i took a risk i know i could have went with somebody out of the east and my pick probably would have lasted a little bit longer but i went with vegas because i just felt that like on paper to have that many like players that depth like i'm gonna take a chance that they're gonna figure it out they just didn't they just they have nine guys who had to get off season surgery they just weren't able to get their game going and get to 100 so which happens they'll be back uh but now looking at it dude it's difficult to not pick the Dallas Stars.
Like, how do you not pick Dallas? Like, what would be your reason for not picking Dallas? Like, when you look at their team, and especially the way they're playing, from the coaching, Pete DeBoer to the Stars up front, they have scoring depth up front, they have veteran presence, they have sandpaper, they have youth, they have speed, they have defense, they got sandpaper on their their back end that lundell and tannins you want to see those guys in the corner good luck i don't jake ottinger if he plays out of his mind or plays 80 of what he's capable of the dallas stars are going to be in every game and have a chance to win so really it's going to be about how are the dallas stars if they make it to the stanley cup, going to match up against any team coming out of the East? And that's the question you have to look for. Yeah.
You know? I don't know, man. It's hard to pick.
It would be easy to pick a Dallas, but I think the winner could be coming out of the East this year. That's what I think.
Okay. All right.
So I have one last question for you, PK. This has been awesome.
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Without giving anything away because it hasn't been released yet, how was your walk with Frank? Because Frank is our guy. He's a legend.
I heard there's maybe some old tweets that were brought up because obviously Frank's diehard season ticket holder for the Devils. How did go from your perspective though? First of all, God bless Frank.
He's the best. You know, for people that are fans of his that listen to him, watch him, follow him on Instagram.
This guy in person is a hundred times better than whatever you would think. He's just salt to the earth.
Just a great guy, passionate guy about sports. I was a little bit disappointed with Frank when I first got there because he was so nice and so polite.
And I'm like, Frank, I didn't come on this walk for you to like, you know what I mean? Treat me nicely here. Like keep it real.
And then he kept it real. We got into some of the tweaks, but it was a fantastic, it was a fantastic day.
And I think it's great. I think it's awesome what he's doing.
Yeah, it is. I really do.
I love what he's doing, and I just hope that I get invited on another walk. But I think people will love it.
We got into some hockey stuff. We talked devils a little bit.
We spoke about the greatest goaltender of all time. It's funny.
When you start throwing out sports stuff, though, when I start throwing fights his way he now all of a sudden frank the tank comes out and uh we had we had a lot of fun so look out for that one it was a good one that's awesome all right get him on skates next time yeah not on the ice yeah let's let's do that but uh yeah and we got to do this more boys yes i gotta get back on here let's go yeah we gotta come come out to chicago we'll show you uh we'll show looks like. We got a full basketball court here.
We got lacrosse. Well, listen, if I come out to Chicago, it's been a while, too.
We got to step out on the town for a night, too, and maybe have a couple barley sandwiches. I'm a tequila guy, so as long as there's tequila, remember, dude, I'm not playing now.
Yeah, let's get you some alert going. Yeah, yeah.
Let's do it. But, yeah, this has been awesome.
We'd love to have you back on, and you got us fired up about hockey. And thanks so much, PK.
Appreciate it, man. No problem.
And cheers to Connor McDavid winning the big one. There we go.
We'll have you on when he does, which will be never. Thanks, boys.
All right. See you, PK.
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Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests in the entire world, one of our best friends. But it's under tough circumstances because the man in front of us right now, Jerry O'Connell, the legend Jerry O'Connell, I don't think anyone has ever talked more shit before a game seven

about the next series than JOC did today to Hank.

So we had to have him on to maybe explain what's going through his head

as his bing-bong Knicks get bounced from the playoffs in seven by the Pacers.

Yeah, tough, guys.

It was, you know, they fought hard. They made made it to game seven it's been an incredible season so many injuries it was a lot of fun would I have loved for it to be you know Mr.
Bing Bong versus Hank I mean yeah I think everybody was rooting for that I do got to thank all the AWLs I have never had so much social media traction as I have had. I went to go, you know, I have a busy life.
I got kids. I'm here at my kids volleyball practice.
I got things to do. I have responsibilities.
And I was washing my car and I was like, I got it before this game. Just give it to cocky Hank.
And I couldn't believe how well it did. But mean it was tough it was a good run you know the celtics look they would have never beaten the celtics it was just fun to get in hank's face you know i it's so funny i would have thought um i i would have thought getting oh there's my first um uh i would have thought getting under max's skin was the most fun yeah but really i just i live i live to get under hank's skin he's just such a complicated i'm not cursed there's teenage girls he's just such a complicated fucking guy i just i want to get on i want to get in there there he is so you know what listen know it's the end of the Knicks season and that's it.
But before I say goodbye to Mr. Bing Bong for the year, is it okay if just for a couple, just for a little bit, I bring Mr.
Bing Bong back? Yeah. A couple Bing Bongs for the road.
Just for Hank, yeah. Is it okay just for the end of the season i mean now that it's all over and

you gotta watch the paces versus the celtics sleepy like uh mr hank in the morning there he is wait let me get into character more i'm an actor so Boston sucks.

Real fans. into character more i'm an actor so boston sucks real fans ruins flopped it all toy boat toy boats

red leather yellow leather here we go and some hank give me an action uh action

bing bong hanky bing bong there he is Mr. Stand Up Mr.
Comedy Bing bong I saw your stand up you killed it just like your boy Aaron Hernandez pop out yeah in a ditch hey Mr. Hanky Mr.
mr sleepy time are you there i'm here i'm right there wide awake there you are there he is wide awake look at him hey you got a uh golf simulator there at uh the barstool headquarters a golf simulator yeah and you use it sometimes yeah maybe you should have used the tiffany gomas simulator mr hankey i hear you're trying to slam dunk a basketball.

Bing bong.

I am.

Yeah.

You got less hops than a can of cause light.

Bing bong.

Hankey, bing bong.

With the little blue mountain, you know it's blue.

So you don't have to touch it with your delicate fingers.

You can see your fingies.

Yeah.

Fingies and tootsies.

Tiffany Gomez, show us your tootsies.

She covers them up with an emoji.

You got to pay extra, big mom.

Tiffany, the one that got away.

Yeah, she got away.

You could have been hog hunting with her from a helicopter.

Shooting those innocent hogs. Show us your tootsies, Tiffany.
Hey, Mr. Hankey, I heard your boy is regretting that he did the roast because of what it did to his family.
Yeah? I heard that. Yeah, you wouldn't know what it's like to have a family because you blew your chance with Tiffany Gomez.
Bing Bong! You could have had a family. A bunch of little hog hunters, little wild boar hunters.
Wow! From a chopper, impressive. Bing Bong.
Missing animal didn't do nothing. You know what I'm picking on? Maybe Mr.
Bing Bong's picking on Hanky a little too much here oh yeah you guys didn't even meet the Pacers you know what's this would have been fun it would have been a fun series oh there he is cocky there he is but see he's leaning back he's looking cocky yeah it's true the Knicks stunk up MSGg today that happened they stunk it up just like jakey is stinking up that control room all the time with his thoughts

look at you i mean i look at that threesome in there you think you know max he's the one

who's shitting himself not you what's going on with your ass you gotta fix that bing bong oh mr bing bong yeah the knicks i'm gonna miss i'm gonna miss mr bing bong we'll have to bring him back i really i miss him already yeah the knicks you guys are going to see the Knicks blow it in Dallas, just like Hanky blew it with Tiffany's house. Bing Bong! Hanky, you blew it! You blew it! Show us your tootsies, Tiffany.
Bing Bong! I got a question. Was, were the arm weights, when you were walking your dog, you were lifting like old geriatric like 80-year-old woman arm weights.
Was that a Mr. Bing Bong's arm weights or was that Jerry O'Connell's arm weights? No, I don't do prop work.
Those were my arm weights. I'll have you know.
Wait, hold on a second. Serve it up, Charlie.
Serve it up. That's my daughter serving.
We hit with a ball here. They're actually leg weights, I'll have you know.
They are not arm weights. They are leg weights that I put on my arms.
And it's to keep it like. Look at that.
Those arms. Hey, you know, I'm not done with you, Hanky.
I'm not finished with you. Where is he? Where is Hanky? Hanky, are you there? Right here.
Yeah, the Bruins. I'm sorry about them.
They prematurely left the playoffs just like you. We mature with Kevin Gomez.
I got to keep it down on this teenager. Yeah.
Jerry, what does Mr. Bing Bong have planned for next year? You like this Knicks team? You want to make any additions? What could change? You know, I should answer that.
I'm going to get out of character and get back to Jerry. I still wish KD was here, man.
We needed that one player, you know? It's just crazy. So we'll see what happens in the offseason.
It was a great season. It was injury-ridden.
It was a bummer. But you know what's just crazy so we'll see what happens in the offseason it was a great season it was injury ridden it was um it was a bummer but you know what i think as you saw in the game today everyone was really proud i was really bummed that jalen brunson didn't get um clapped off didn't get like his proper applause he had to uh had to go into the locker room hey mr bing bong's back on a second.
You know, Jalen Brunson's hand is more fractured

than Hank and Tiffany's relationship.

Bing Bong!

Yeah, the Knicks pieces, that was knockdown, drag-out fight,

just like Scotty Sheffield this weekend.

Bing Bong!

Shout out to First Respondents.

Miss Maxi. First Respondents.
Give them the tickets. Oh, man.
Have you had, Jerry, yeah. Have you had any moments? My last question, I'll do it right now.
Rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.
Rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K who cares how it smelled it's a crazy promo code take 20 off your first purchase was there ever a moment in the last couple of weeks where mr bing bong kind of slipped out while you're with your family and your family looked at you like what the fuck are you doing right now dude uh no but um no i just i gotta tell you i mr bing bong has woken up something inside of me i just i'm a different man i just find myself like if someone tries to like like if you're merging onto traffic and like that second car tries to merge i'm like Like, oh, what's it doing? It's just, I gotta tell you, everybody needs a little bing bong in their lives.
Everybody. And I just want to say, you know, I'm going to put Mr.
Bing bong to sleep and Hank, maybe you should take another trip down to Dallas. Show your friend who Mr.
Bing Bong is. So you can rekindle your relationship and patch things up, Bing Bong.
Let's see those toes, Tiffany. I always think that Mr.
Bing Bong might play better as a loser. Like you're out, but you're still talking shit to everybody.
Yeah, yeah. I am a loser.
What do you want? I'm like cowering in a corner of a teenage girl's volleyball gym. I'm going to lie to my whole family.
I have to change into my Knicks jersey every time I come onto your podcast. Go back into my polo.
I mean, what do you want? Yeah. Mr.
Ping Pong is a loser. All right.
Well, Jerry, we love Mr. Ping Pong.

It's been a great playoffs with you.

Any last words for Hank or Max?

No, good luck in the postseason, Hank.

I mean, I guess we're all getting ready for tonight's game.

I haven't even looked at the score.

Have they started playing yet?

Yeah, it's halftime.

What's the score?

53-38 Nuggets. Yeah, so's halftime.
What's the score? 53-38 Nuggets.

Yeah, so, I mean, yeah. Look, I mean, I understand fan bases and all that stuff, but look, this is a football podcast.
Like now, let's get to Grit Week. You know what I'm saying? Let's get to Grit Week.
It's over Hear all of Hank's Hot Celtic sticks Let's hear those hot Celtic sticks Hanky By the way Jerry We have not planned Grit Week yet But there's We've had some preliminary planning There's maybe a chance that you'll be On the RV with us for a little bit. Maybe we'll be so much.
That would be so much fun. And if you do come out to like Oxnard or whatever, to come see the Cowboys or the Rams practice out here in thousand Oaks.
Um, I know you guys are always looking for a place to watch hard knocks. Come over to my house.
Unless, unless my wife was there and it's 90 day fiance night. Then we have to watch 90 Day Fiance.
Sorry. But today it was really tough.
We were watching Hacks, which is a great show. It's a really wonderful show streaming about a female comedian and a younger female comedian.
And it's very funny. So I got two quarters of the next game.
But I was watching Hacks and my wife, and it was a really good game. I highly suggest it.
If you're looking for something to watch with the family, it's fun. A lot of fun, strong females.
All right, Jerry. We have to do Hard Knocks with you.
Yeah, we'll do Hard Knocks with you. We'll build the whole trip around hard knocks with jerry all right one last time one last time hanky yeah and you know what i want to hear hanky say it it feels so good to say it hanky say it bing bong feel the power okay i gotta get out of here before my kids disown me.
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I have a quick Monday reading for us. We should have talked about it.
It came late, I believe, Thursday or maybe Friday. Uh, I'll, you know what? I'll read it and you guys can tell me who wrote this.
Okay. Um, congratulations to Stephen Curry on winning his second PBWA Magic Johnson.
Oh, there it is. A Magic Johnson award honoring a player who displays cooperation and grace in dealing with the media and fans both on and off the court by the way steph curry i had fun hanging out with your mom last night at the sparks home opener oh magic is was that like a test to see how he handles the media dude in that situation he's so like sweet and sincere how can you say that part I had fun hanging out with your mom.
That was like a Marlins man tweet. Oh my God.
Is mom still single? I believe so. Magic had a lot of fun hanging out with her.
By the way, Steph Curry, I had fun hanging out with your mom last night at Sparks Home Opener. Is there any person, any public figure, I'm going to be very delicate with how i say this okay any public figure in america that you would less like to see that tweet from than magic johnson about your mom does nicky smokes count as public i know public not pubic yeah magic johnson would be a tough one that'd be a really tough one it'd be a tough one it'd be a tough one hmm yeah i think that's i think that's it i think it's gotta be magic i also had i didn't even read this article but we can just do a read a headline and just go off of it uh the new york post uh posted something Gouda Bad and Ugly NYC Law Student Addicted to Cheese Went to Nearly $6,000 Per Week Rehab.

Yeah, that's good.

That's good.

Going to cheese rehab.

Cheese rehab.

Yeah, what is cheese rehab?

I don't know.

Treadmill.

Max, have you gotten your cheese, by the way?

I have not.

Okay.

Oh, Max, speaking of cheese. Oh, yeah.
We have something in here for you. The grater? The grater.
Or the slicer? It's a bad, yeah. This bad boy is an industrial strength cheese and meat slicer.
Is it actually in here? Yeah, it's this giant box right here. Why don't you come open it? Should we open it? All right.
Yeah, open it up. By the way, I do Omax my ping pong ball.
Terrible shooting by me. We're done with that.
No longer going to give up. This is last week? Yeah, this is the last week.
I have a story. I'm not sure if I should share it on the podcast, though.
Okay. Give it a try.
We'll take it for a spin. You guys ever sleepwalk? Yeah, all the time.
Hank, you ever sleepwalk? It's a weird sensation. Sleep talk.
Yeah, you do sleep talk. You sleep a lot.
Yeah. If Hank's walked into sleep, he'd be in great shape.
Are you asleep right now? No. Okay.
All right. So Friday night- Imagine if Hank was like, yeah, actually.
Friday night, I stayed in a hotel. Okay.
I'm in D.C., right? And I go to bed at about i think 12 30 1 a.m uh couple cocktails i had a couple cocktails nothing big nothing too serious but i i wake up and i find myself in the hallway of my hotel yep in my underwear and nothing but my underwear and then i have to figure out where I am, what I'm doing there. Yep.
I go to my door. I obviously don't have my key on me to get back in.
So I have to walk down to the lobby. I'm on the first floor.
I walk, I poke my head around the corner and I ask the people in the lobby, hey, I locked myself out of room they're like no problem they get the uh the whatever custodian or um maintenance sodian yeah yeah maintenance guy they just make you a new key yeah what are you talking about no he's a he has a master key okay so he but they could have just given you another key well i didn't stay in like a bed and breakfast with old school keys no it was like a master like the uh the thing that he held up opened every door the custodian key yeah the master electronic yeah so he takes me back and i the reason i didn't go to the front desk was because i'm in my underwear i didn't want to like be down at the front desk of my underwear so i got it the guy walks me back lets me into my hotel room i thank him i apologize i go back to sleep two hours later i wake up and i'm in the hallway again oh no in my underwear you gotta lock yourself in and i'm locked i'm locked out of my hotel room for the second time in about three hours yeah and i'm like what the hell is going on right now i have to do the exact same thing and walk down and be like, hey, I did it again. They get the janitor, excuse me, custodian.
And he walks me back and he's like, so a second time, what's going on? I was like, I honestly, I have no idea. And then I got back in.
And when I went back in the second time, I latched the door, did the deadbolt. Yes.
That whole thing. Both times, I think I was trying to find the bathroom because I had to go pee.
And I just went out the front door of my hotel. Have you sleptwalked before? Yeah, but it's been years.
Yeah. So I sleepwalk usually when I'm very overtired.
I've done that once. I lock the door every time I go to a hotel room for that exact reason.
I'm going to start doing that. Yeah.
It's gotten used to be like i would end up like you know like in different parts of my house now it's more just like i i get up and i like kind of walk around and like just mumble yeah wife's like what are you doing uh she said that i like will like talk about like especially during football season when we don't sleep like i'll be talking about games and stuff but yeah it's a weird feeling weird feeling. It might be from lack of sleep.
I didn't sleep a lot on Wednesday or Thursday night. Yeah.
Always when I, when I, when I don't sleep, I, I, I talk a lot. And then every now I've, I walk probably like once every couple of months.
Yeah. The first time I woke up in the hallway, I was standing at my door, looking at my door.
And as you're fading back into consciousness, I'm trying to figure out what to do i start knocking on my own hotel oh yeah i was like please let me in me the uh it's good good that you you sound very similar to what i do in that like i've never put myself in real harm's way because i know that that's a real thing yeah some people will like be walking in like the street and shit yeah like i never really get past like the first or second door. Yeah.
I was in the hallway and immediately that's when I was like, wait, this isn't right. That's fucking wild.
This is two times. And I did it twice.
Yeah. That's crazy.
The second time I was just like so freaked out the second time that you let me back in. I'm like, lock all this shit up.
Yeah. Don't let me do this again, me.
Yeah. I sometimes will put like stuff in front of my, i know that i'm really overtired like especially on the road i'll put stuff like booby trap my own door yeah so like i'm gonna have to do that yeah because you know like oh if i kick this bag it'll be like what the fuck yep um that's crazy though two times two times shout out the custodian the custodian janitor maintenance guy i like custodian we got to that word.
Awesome guy. Max, the cheese slicer.
Max is getting manhandled by this cheese. Yeah, Max, what is going on here? Don't break it.
Now you're just going to try to be a man about it, and it's going to go poorly. Max, you're going to have to start slicing all our cheese now, though.
I'm going to start bringing in blocks of cheese. Dude, this is pathetic.
I like it really, really really really thin Max What did this cost? Don't worry about it It was a spur of the moment purchase It was a spur of the moment purchase that I instantly regretted Oh it's great Shit Right here in the middle We're going to have you on Wednesday's show You're going to have to cut some cheese for us. Yeah.
And if Mr. Pear doesn't turn his shit around, we got a guillotine.
This is awesome, Max. You got to clean this, dude.
Oh, this is great. Yeah.
Dude, you can slice anything you want on that. What about a bet? Someone sliced their fingers.
That's what you should use for your pinky bet. Yeah.
her so bad Alright Max You're set to go Big boy Kind of a fat move to have your own cheese slicer What a fat ass Yeah this fat ass has this cheese slicer that we forced him to. We should just start buying Max like a moo moo.
A life alert. Like, Max, damn, dude.
There's a military-grade sleep apnea, Max. Do you have no shame? All right, let's do numbers.
I owe Max mine. Mine will be 20.
Eight. Three.

56.

56 is Max's.

46.

99 pug.

21.

Mames, you want to say anything about me blocking the shit out of you on Friday?

Blind squirrel finds a nut.

Oh, yeah, and then you got upset.

Pushed me 78 78 78 Whoa love you guys What was that what was that what were you pointing at Max He hit the TV God damn it Hank go back to sleep Bing bong oh wait shout out fuck do another love you guys

shout out

shit Jerry we finished taping with

Jerry and we were watching the Nuggets

Wolves game eating dinner and he's like hey

can I come back on I was like no Jerry

he's like I forgot one

thing

I was like just tell me Jerry and I'll say it

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Shout out Ryan.

Love you guys.

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