Adam Schefter, Combine Week Live From Indy, 8 Year Anniversary Of The First PMT + Vanny Woodhead Is Somehow Back

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On today's part in my take, we have our yearly combine interview with Adam Schefter.

Speaker 1 Great time catching up with Shefty. He gives us some nuggets about the league.
We talk about his breaking news of Punxatani Phil.

Speaker 1 Maybe we get an answer to the Des tape. Stephen Shea gets a couple questions in because he's a Shefty Super fan.
We're at the Combine. We're going to talk a little Combine.

Speaker 1 We got the report card for the NFLPA. Hank's number two Patriot of all time.
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Speaker 1 Dude, that looked like I surprised you with that? No. You weren't ready for it.
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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, March 1st. This is March.
We've arrived, boys. That's wild.

Speaker 2 So we're recording this on leap day, which really threw off my entire calendar. Happy birthday to us, by the way.
Eight years.

Speaker 1 We've been doing this podcast.

Speaker 2 Our second birthday today.

Speaker 1 That kind of blows my mind. Yeah.
Eight years.

Speaker 1 So we, so the high school and college. Yeah.
Whoa. For some people.

Speaker 1 The, yeah, some people take longer.

Speaker 1 The, um, it's, it's crazy. I was looking back because I couldn't remember the exact timeline.

Speaker 1 The first episode debuted, I think, on March 3rd or 4th, but we had recorded it on the leap day in PFT's house in Austin.

Speaker 2 That's right, in my kitchen.

Speaker 1 Chris Jones' dick flopped out at the combine.

Speaker 2 It was one of those things where it was meant to be. Yeah.

Speaker 2 To have that story break the morning that we record our first episode where a man's penis broke through his shorts while he ran the 40-yard dash at the combine.

Speaker 2 It felt like we were always destined to do the show.

Speaker 1 And if you put it into perspective, if you had told us eight years ago that the man's penis who flopped out at the combine was going to be a three-time Super Bowl champion, we probably would have said, okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would have said

Speaker 1 okay, he is a football champion. Yeah, he is going to play football.

Speaker 1 He's a good football player.

Speaker 2 So maybe he'll get on a good team and and they'll win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a pretty big woe.

Speaker 2 And then he would be a free agent eight years from that.

Speaker 1 To that day, his free agency looms. Just crazy.
Full circle. The first episode was also recorded at 7 a.m.
in the morning. Did we?

Speaker 1 No, no. Second episode.
No, we tried. We're like, we're going to record.
No, no, no. But the first episode we recorded in PFT's house.
Yeah. In like the afternoon.

Speaker 1 Did we record some of it in the beginning? In the morning? Possibly. Oh, we recorded the majority of it.
Possibly. I think.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we did the segments at a normal time. Right, we'll do the con of activity.

Speaker 1 Yeah, people don't, people forget that the first week of Pardon My Take was a morning show, which was the worst idea ever because not only are we not morning people, even though actually this is, we should just make it every time we do

Speaker 1 the year anniversary, we have to record it in the morning.

Speaker 2 It's the worst idea ever.

Speaker 1 This is the morning right now.

Speaker 1 But we're not mourning people.

Speaker 1 And then also we found out very quickly that it was an unsustainable practice because we would wake up, record at eight in the morning, and then I I would just text Hank every five minutes for the next five hours, being like, Is the podcast ready?

Speaker 1 Yeah, is it up as stories were like breaking me? Like, wait, should we add to this? Should we add to this?

Speaker 2 So, so the problem with doing, well, the easy thing about doing a morning show is that you have the topics that are already laid out for you because the storylines are already out there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the games already happened. Then you get to react to like the storylines to the storylines.
We're down in the trenches right after the games are over. We're creating it.

Speaker 2 We're like, we're farming that like pure uncut cocaine of sports takes right after the games, and then somebody else turns into crack the next morning. That's the easy part.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 We're down there doing the hard work.

Speaker 1 And I mean, credit to us for realizing it was a terrible idea. Almost immediately that and the reggaetone horn

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 changing on the fly and becoming a night podcast.

Speaker 2 Do you want to bring back a segment for today's show? We could do four good minutes.

Speaker 1 We could do hurt or injured Kyle Filipowski.

Speaker 2 He is injured. Severe injury, Jay Billis.
Jay Billis told me that he was sore. That's an injury.

Speaker 1 I've thought back about the Jay Billis. I want to give, I know the AWLs didn't love that interview because we don't usually do contentious interviews.

Speaker 1 And I give all the credit in the world for Jay Billis for just coming on because he probably knew it was going to go that way.

Speaker 1 I need you guys to promise me that you'll stand up for me and with me next time someone says I use the wrong word because I'm not as dumb as he was making me feel in that moment when he said I used disingenuous incorrectly.

Speaker 2 That's literally what I did. Yeah.
I told him. I was like, when you said that.

Speaker 1 We need to like do a screeching halt because he made me feel really dumb.

Speaker 2 Well, that's the Duke in him. Yep.
It's kind of like your default setting. If you go to Duke, it's like, well, this person doesn't have a Duke education, so clearly he's not as smart as I am.

Speaker 2 But in that moment, I did tell him.

Speaker 2 I was like, no, I think he did use the word correctly because Jay is smart enough to understand there's a difference between Kansas storming the court and Butler storming the court, right?

Speaker 2 There's a difference between those two things. And also, yes, Kansas' football program,

Speaker 2 the students have stormed the field many times.

Speaker 1 I forgot to say that there's two moments this week where I'm like Costanza walking away being like, damn, I should have thought of that.

Speaker 1 It's the Kansas storms the field in football, and Hank rooted for Tom Brady at the Bucks when he was trying to bash Patrick Kane. That's true.
Now,

Speaker 1 those are the two moments. I was like, damn it.
You got to be smarter than that, Dan.

Speaker 2 It's very true.

Speaker 1 Hank was the biggest.

Speaker 1 The biggest. Yeah.
People rooted. He was good at my life.
Dude, how do you not bring up Hank in the Bucks? And I was like, fuck.

Speaker 2 But he was a Bucks fan, and then he was a Cowboys fan. Yeah, that's true.
He did turn his back on Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 That's true. But eight years.

Speaker 1 I love you guys. This has been the, I mean, we, not to get sentimental, but it's obviously changed our life so significantly to the point where it's like, I can't imagine if this didn't happen.

Speaker 1 We've had this conversation, PFT. I think when we were at the Arizona Bowl driving back, just the two of us, and we're like, could you imagine if like this didn't happen? Like, this is our lives.

Speaker 1 This is our life's work.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is, it is, it's our life's work. It's our legacy.
Yeah. How about that?

Speaker 1 We're, we, we, we, this podcast is our legacy. We will, it will be in the first, like, line of the obituary.
Unless one of us dies in a crazy way, then that would probably be the first line.

Speaker 2 Or unless somebody commits multiple bank robberies and has a lawyer that goes on TV to use football analogies to describe your guilty plea.

Speaker 1 Chief Saholic's lawyer rocks. That dude is awesome.
I have a problem, though. I really wish he didn't say his government name.

Speaker 2 Xander? Xavier.

Speaker 1 Xavier. Xavier something or other.
And I was like, that kind of ruins it. He's Chief Saholic.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we had Chief Saholic lawyer show up again, and he started by saying, Chief Saholic, the government has been blitzing, and Xavier's pocket was collapsing.

Speaker 1 But today, Xavier stepped into the pressure.

Speaker 1 And then he continued to say, we know if he stumbled and he fell, he didn't let his knee touch the ground.

Speaker 1 That's when you know you got a good lawyer.

Speaker 2 But he did take a plea, which I think the very definition of a plea is like kneeling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, kneeling the ball.

Speaker 2 Kneeling the ball out. So yeah.
In a loss. He did.
In a loss.

Speaker 1 He takes a loss. You're down 40 and you're like, I don't want to get anyone injured.
Let's just kneel it out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The lawyer making all the football analogies is awesome.

Speaker 2 The one thing I would tweak about the lawyer, because every time he does a press conference, he loves hammering home the fact that his client is a football fan. Yeah.
Which is cool.

Speaker 4 I wish.

Speaker 1 We know, too. Yeah.
Just so you know, we do know he is Chief Sahala.

Speaker 2 That's the reason that we're talking about him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we wouldn't be talking about him otherwise.

Speaker 2 I would like if the lawyer was a little bit like more of a football guy.

Speaker 2 It still seems from time to time like when he's talking, it's something that I think that Chief Zaholic writes these statements and then has the lawyer deliver them when I would prefer it if the lawyer was like a big football guy, like making these analogies on his own.

Speaker 2 But once he runs out of the ones that Xavier gives to him, then he just goes back into lawyer speech as his default. Agreed.
But

Speaker 2 I like the theater of the lawyer being like, okay, Chief Zaholic, you guys know he's a football fan.

Speaker 2 Here's how I'm going to describe him accepting a plea deal on multiple bank robberies to go to prison for years, is by just giving you a football game.

Speaker 1 And it's smart because,

Speaker 1 like you said, no one cares about this if it was just a regular person.

Speaker 1 You know that football fans are tuning in to anytime this lawyer gets in front of a microphone. So he has dumbed it down to where, like, okay, all right, so he was getting a blitz.
All right.

Speaker 1 He's stepping up in the pressure. I see it.
Okay. Yeah.
Didn't get to need to touch the ground. All right.
Yeah. You know what? He's free.

Speaker 2 You know, in Saudi Arabia for stealing, they would take a hand off.

Speaker 2 i would i would i would like to see him expand his repertoire a little bit and dive a little bit deeper but i think if you were to ask chief zaholic would you trade how many years in prison a lot a lot like say a lot i'd say five years in prison five to a lot would you trade five years in prison for a dynasty the answer for chief zaholic is a resounding yes yes and i hope that they let him wear his wolf costume in jail yeah that would be awesome that would be that although i feel like there's some kinks that would probably be attracted to that like some furries ought to be some furries in jail.

Speaker 2 You think they're furries in prison?

Speaker 1 Like, we've been waiting all our life for a furry to show up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he just gets humped all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

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Speaking of the Chiefs, we had the NFLPA

Speaker 1 report card come out, which this rocks. So So this is the second year in a row that they've done this.

Speaker 1 The Commander's our last.

Speaker 2 It feels personal.

Speaker 1 It does feel personal, but you have a new owner who is

Speaker 1 also sitting in on every quarterback interview. Can we take it?

Speaker 2 Let's take it

Speaker 2 one slide at a time, please.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Josh Harris is sitting in on every quarterback interview of Combine Week. Just directly behind.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I will address all the accusations

Speaker 2 one at a time, but it's not fair to put both the report card and Harris on me at the same time.

Speaker 1 You're on the Tepper spectrum.

Speaker 2 it feels personal, the NFLPA report card.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, let's talk about Josh Harris going to these. No, we're taking this point out of time.
We'll go back to it because I actually want to say that.

Speaker 2 An F minus is not a grade. It is.
It does not exist.

Speaker 1 49 or below.

Speaker 2 It's an F. That's what an F is.
An F minus is not a real actual thing that people get.

Speaker 2 To have treatment of families, to get an F minus in treatment of families, seems like the very worst thing that you can say about somebody.

Speaker 2 Like, okay, they've got a great strength coach, but they fucking hate children.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're bad parents.

Speaker 1 I actually wasn't going to talk about the commanders much for this because it's almost like the sun will rise. The commanders will finish last in this poll.
It wasn't anything new.

Speaker 1 So I do want to go back to Josh Harris real quick.

Speaker 1 He's sitting in all these interviews.

Speaker 2 I think, here's my spend zone. I think he's evaluating.

Speaker 2 the people that he hired to evaluate he's evaluating the evaluators yes he's sitting there he's watching he's watching adam and dan quinn uh do conduct the interviews with the quarterbacks to see what kind of questions they're asking as part of his ongoing evaluation process of his own team.

Speaker 1 So, totally normal.

Speaker 2 Very normal.

Speaker 1 Very normal behavior from Josh Harrison. Not a control freak.

Speaker 2 Very normal. Very normal.
I'm fine with it. I think it's good.

Speaker 1 At what point do you think he will insert himself into the game plan meetings? Never. Will that be Thursdays or Fridays?

Speaker 2 Never, never. It's not going to happen.
He's going to do the walkthroughs.

Speaker 1 He's going to be like, hey, you know what? Let me just be under center for this walkthrough.

Speaker 1 If you're Dan Quinn and the other coaches in these meetings, how do you not ask him for his opinion and then do you have to take it you have to take it that's the whole point okay

Speaker 1 what'd you think josh and then how do you not listen to what he says yeah he's gonna be like you're like what do you think josh he's like i really like drake may and the and the guys in the room be like yeah yeah that's what i was gonna say drake may

Speaker 2 i think that this is such a big decision for the future of the franchise that they want everybody in the room to be involved and on the same page going forward.

Speaker 2 I think it's like, this is a decision that could possibly change the direction in a much, maybe we'll get F pluses in 10 years if we draft the right quarterback.

Speaker 1 What does he know? What does Josh Harris know?

Speaker 2 He knows people.

Speaker 1 He's a people person.

Speaker 1 He's probably a connector.

Speaker 2 I would love it if Josh Harris was actually in the room asking them basketball questions.

Speaker 1 You know what, though, PFT, now that I'm thinking about it, Josh Harris might just be in the room practicing his handshake. Yeah.
Because he had that bad handshake. So maybe he's just getting reps in.

Speaker 1 It's the combine for him, too, where he's like,

Speaker 1 I got to learn how to shake hands again.

Speaker 2 Joe Buck had the bad handshake.

Speaker 1 Well, Josh Harris had the the batting. He did the.

Speaker 2 I think it's completely normal. Robert Kraft was intimately involved in everything going on behind the scenes with the quarterbacks in New England.
And his decision was, like,

Speaker 2 I'm going to let Bill coach the team. But he was involved in all those conversations.
I think that Josh Harris is

Speaker 2 any one of us, if you owned an NFL team, you would want to be in the room, right?

Speaker 1 Right, but that analogy doesn't really work because Robert Kraft would have, if he was the one making the decisions, he would have had Bledsoe start.

Speaker 1 And Josh Harris is now going to have whoever he wants to have start.

Speaker 2 But it's the same thing where you're just because your owner's in the room doesn't mean he's the one making the decision. He's going to make some decisions.

Speaker 2 Everything's going to be fine.

Speaker 2 Everything's going to be wonderful. I choose to not dwell on this.
I have good news for you. I'm delusional.

Speaker 1 You know what? I have good news for you, PFT. Okay.
So back to the NFLPA report card.

Speaker 1 This reporter, Nick Cordy,

Speaker 1 K-O-R-T-E, I just want to shout him out because he did good work with this on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Nick Cordy, he did a list of all the grades from the NFLPA and then categorized them with teams that the owner purchased the team and teams that the owner inherited the team. And

Speaker 1 I think it's nine out of the top 10, Packers not included because they're weird and they pretend that everyone owns a piece of the team.

Speaker 1 Nine out of the top 10, not excluding the Packers, were teams that the owner purchased the team.

Speaker 1 And then all the bad grades, essentially, were teams where the owners inherited the team, basically fail sons and daughters

Speaker 1 who are driving whatever they inherited into the ground, which usually happens in all these situations.

Speaker 2 So that's good for you. It is a positive thing.
The Dolphins got first by a mile in this.

Speaker 1 Dolphins and Vikings one and two. Easy, yeah.

Speaker 2 The Dolphins report card was A minus A A A A A A minus A plus A A. No notes.
Pretty good.

Speaker 2 The strength and conditioning line always stands out to me. I think last year the Ravens got like an F in strength and conditioning.

Speaker 2 The commanders are one good grade being an A for a strength and condition coach seemed to me at first like, okay, at least we have a great strength program. And then I thought about it more.

Speaker 2 I don't think I'd want my players to give my strength and conditioning coach an A.

Speaker 2 Because don't you want like that guy to be the hardest person in the world on you? I think you kind of want to hate your strength coach a little bit, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like maybe you don't want an F,

Speaker 2 but getting like a C plus or a B, you want that guy to like push you to be super, super uncomfortable all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 If your strength coach is welcoming you with like cookies and cupcakes every morning for your morning lift,

Speaker 2 and you're like super happy with them, like your best friend, probably not that effective of a strength coach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't want to be well liked. Okay, I think that might be more also the facilities too.
Although that was in there as well.

Speaker 1 The other funny things that came out was the Chiefs are winning Super Bowls while everyone hates everyone except Andy Reid.

Speaker 1 They basically got like D's, Cs, Ds, and F's in everything but Andy Reid, who got an A plus, including the owner got an F minus

Speaker 1 because the story goes that the Chiefs wanted a new locker room because their locker room was very outdated. They won the Super Bowl last year.
The players came back. They got a new locker room.

Speaker 1 And by that, I mean they went from stools to chairs with backs to them. That was the big upgrade.
It's huge. That's that though is crazy to me.

Speaker 1 Like if you're Clark Hunt, the amount of money that Patrick Mahomes is is pumping into your franchise right now, you should be wanting to spend every dollar on making it a fun place to be.

Speaker 2 It should just be whatever Patrick Mahomes wants.

Speaker 1 Correct. It's crazy.
Like that, I don't understand any of these.

Speaker 1 The report card is actually good, though, because

Speaker 1 they had a note like, remember the Jaguars had rats last year. They got a new facility.
They don't have rats anymore. So it's actually changing things.

Speaker 1 Like even the Bengals, one of the cheapest owners in all of sports, they were complaining because they had to pay for their food. Now he was like, hey, guess what? I'm a billionaire.

Speaker 1 I'm going to help you guys out. I'm going to give you free food,

Speaker 1 three free meals on Wednesdays. Just Wednesdays.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just Wednesdays.

Speaker 2 But that's a step in the right direction. That's such a hilarious compromise to make.

Speaker 2 That's essentially what we do at Bars for Sports. It's like once a week, you get a free meal.
I'll say this.

Speaker 1 Wednesday's not a bad day, though. Because Monday, I think most guys, they usually give them off.
Tuesday, they got to go in. Wednesday is hump day.
It's a shitty day.

Speaker 1 It's the no man's land of the week. So three free meals, that's a perfect day to do it.
I wouldn't want to do it on Friday. Friday's Friday.

Speaker 2 Friday's Friday, and you want to kind of have your free play at lunch on Friday. Now, the Eagles,

Speaker 2 they gave their coach an A.

Speaker 2 Treatment of families, C.

Speaker 2 Team travel, C. Now, with team travel, I think it's impossible to get a high grade in team travel.
Everyone hates travel.

Speaker 1 The Patriots have two planes, and they got a D. They're probably old,

Speaker 1 old planes. Well, they're also team travel is

Speaker 1 the Bills. Awesome.

Speaker 1 The Bucs had a line where they force their players to pay $1,700. I think it was $1,750

Speaker 1 if they want to stay alone when they travel.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was one of the options that

Speaker 1 per travel? Yeah, teams. Per week? Yeah.
Teams get. $1,700? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That seems like a lot. It does.
Bad franchise.

Speaker 2 They're pocketing some money off that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that definitely.

Speaker 1 They're upcharging the hotel room.

Speaker 2 It's one guy on the team that's like, yeah, you got to pay me $1,700 for that.

Speaker 1 Stephen Che is here, so he's going to. I asked him to do a Fire Fest.
Why don't you save your thoughts? You can respond to all these when we get to Firefest.

Speaker 1 But the other funny wrinkles in this, the Broncos had a bunch of cars stolen from them at training camp. That was kind of cool.
Cars? Yeah. Yeah, that was cool.

Speaker 1 What was it?

Speaker 1 There were multiple cars stolen from the parking lot of the mandated team hotel during training camp. I love that.
I love that. Someone's doing Fast and Furious with the Broncos cars.

Speaker 2 It's probably just Future. Yeah.
Just roam up there with his crew. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then the other one that was, because the timing of this, I think they did it in like the summer and like early fall.

Speaker 1 So most of the coaches got like A's and B's. Arthur Smith got got a C plus.
Ron Rivera got a C. The only one who got a D was Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 1 So it's good to know that even in a blind poll, everyone fucking hates Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 2 I love that a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's actually

Speaker 1 Josh McDaniels' grade actually like validates this entire poll where they're like, yeah, they're giving honest answers. Josh McDaniels is a fucking douchebag.
He got a D.

Speaker 2 So I noticed a lot of really bad grades when it comes to the locker room. Like across the board, players are not happy with the locker room.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 But my theory is that college locker rooms have gotten so out of control good that it's a step back when you go to the NFL.

Speaker 2 Like college coaches should be like, yeah, you can go pro and make millions of dollars, but you don't get the barber chair.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Chiefs don't have a slide. Yeah, there's no water.
There's no water slide. Before NIL, that was the only thing they had.
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 We can't spend money on players. We'll just get a new locker.

Speaker 1 I remember I went into, like, maybe it was like four or five years ago, I went to Clemson's training facility, and they had a literal slide that we weren't allowed to use. But

Speaker 1 I basically bullied Brandon Walker to use it, and then he got yelled at right away, which is a very funny visual.

Speaker 1 Just a big old man going down a slide and then a training staff member being like, hey, don't use that slide.

Speaker 1 But they told me, they're like, yeah, we just opened this like two years ago and it's already outdated. Yeah.
So you're right. Like the college locker rooms and the training facilities are insane.

Speaker 2 It's an arms race. It's like every year before NIL, every single year, teams would put all their expendable money into upgrading the locker room.

Speaker 2 It's like players are like, can we please have $1,000 a month to buy food? They're like, guess what? We got a new waterfall.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 2 Putt putt. Yeah, putt-putt.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 There was a batting cage. But yeah,

Speaker 1 I love this NFL PA poll. It's great just because it's just a bunch of anonymous snitching.
And if you're an owner, you have to dread this.

Speaker 1 And I also, I still will never understand, and maybe this is just how I'm wired, but like if I had billions of dollars, I would spend a good portion of that money to make sure that the assets that I have on my team are very well taken care of.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe that's easier said than done, but Patrick Momes would get whatever he wanted. Well, he got a back to his chair.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's pretty nice.

Speaker 1 That's huge.

Speaker 2 The Patriots got some shitty grades too, Hank. Why not? They got bad grades with coaching staff, bad grades with ownership, too.

Speaker 1 Ownership, travel. But that's where it's like, it's hard for me to really believe the travel thing when they have two planes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that kind of makes the whole list.

Speaker 2 What's your thing with two planes?

Speaker 1 He just wants two planes.

Speaker 2 You have two planes.

Speaker 1 How can travel be bad if you have your literal owned plane? Well, they're probably old planes. Yeah, they might be.
What does that even mean? Like, they could be planes from 20 years ago.

Speaker 1 I want a plane where I'm able to lay down.

Speaker 2 They could be a Boeing 737 MAX.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Did you think about that? No, I think they're big-ass, nice planes.
I've seen them. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Anything else from this? I mean, it's, yeah, it's great that it comes out right now.

Speaker 2 The leading sentence of the Commander's locker room issue was multiple sewage leaks contributed to their F minus.

Speaker 2 I would say that that probably does it. One sewage leak is an F.

Speaker 2 I'll give you the F minus on the locker room because of the multiple sewage leaks. All the other F minuses, I think, are personal.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Bucs also had bugs in their showers.

Speaker 2 Yikes. That's Florida, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is Florida.

Speaker 1 There also was the, everyone made the same joke at the same time, which it's a funny joke, but I think the Chargers, there was a line about the Chargers charging extra for daycare.

Speaker 1 And everyone was like, well, if you have Phil Rivers and Antonio Crimarti, you need to do this.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 congrats to everyone for making a very funny joke. It's a good joke.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a good joke.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 What else we got going on?

Speaker 1 You see the college football playoff is already ready to change again?

Speaker 2 I saw that, yeah.

Speaker 1 Rules.

Speaker 2 I like it. I don't like it because I like the first iteration that they came out with.
Now it's starting to get too confusing. They're starting to Jeff D.
Loify the college football playoffs.

Speaker 2 What are they changing it to?

Speaker 1 They're going to change it to 14.

Speaker 1 They're going to give the Big Ten and the SEC three automatic qualifiers. So the top three in each of those conferences will automatically ban.

Speaker 1 The ACC and the and the Big 12 will get two automatic qualifiers, and then there'll be one automatic qualifier from the group of five.

Speaker 2 I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
I like the old way.

Speaker 1 So here's the only thing that I like about it, because I was talking, we are in Indy, so we get to meet a bunch of people.

Speaker 1 I met Ross Dellinger. He's a Yahoo Sports College Football Reporter.
Really good guy. We're going to have him on the show this fall because he knows a shitload about college football.

Speaker 1 He was saying, because I was like, why would they play conference championship?

Speaker 1 Like, why would they have conference championships if the top three go? Like, there's no reason to play that extra game. And he, it was a hypothesis because there's nothing set in stone.

Speaker 1 He said that it will eventually get to a point where it's the fourth and the third will play for that third spot, which that kind of rocks.

Speaker 1 So if you're a fourth place team in the Big Ten, you play in the conference championship game or whatever they're going to call it, you play in an extra game to like, it's like a play-in to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 I get that, but also we're setting up these rules for maybe 10, 20 years down the line. These rules are still going to exist and the college football landscape changes every like two to three years.

Speaker 1 They'll find it.

Speaker 2 So it's like, who knows what the conferences will eventually look like then and giving three automatic qualifiers. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I like the way it was set up. It was easier to understand for dummies like me.

Speaker 1 I agree. But they're going to do something that the, I think the initial plan was like the Big Ten and the SEC were like, we get four teams automatic.
So they're playing a little strong arm with them.

Speaker 1 I still think it's going to be no different than cable to streaming, back to cable, where we're bundling all the streaming now.

Speaker 1 They're going to get to a point where they just start making like regional divisions. And it's going to be like, well, okay, so Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA are in a division.

Speaker 1 Why don't we just call it the Pac-4?

Speaker 1 And then we'll get there, and then we'll be happy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so this new proposal, it's not ratified yet, right?

Speaker 1 No, it wouldn't happen until at least 2026. So 24 and 25 will have the current college football setup.
Okay.

Speaker 1 What is this year? This year is the current college football setup. With 12.
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
24, 25 will have the 12 teams, the four buys.

Speaker 1 They're automatic championship winners, so it still matters for the championship game, and then the other at large.

Speaker 1 And then this is just something they've been, they're going to do it because essentially what they're doing is they're going to, the Big Ten and the SEC are going to strong on everyone else because they are the

Speaker 1 number one and two asset in college football. And they're like, we need our teams guaranteed to be in because they have all the power.

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Speaker 2 That's just how it's going to work.

Speaker 2 Can we do a Hank's hot in the streets? Sure. Or Hank explains it.
Oh, I like it. What's going on with Meek Mill? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I just pulled up Meek Mill's timeline to pull up the relevant tweets that he fired off yesterday, some all-timers.

Speaker 2 He's putting on a masterclass right now in terms of retweeting to flood the timeline. I think he's got like 30 or 40 retweets in a row.

Speaker 1 He's got got new music coming out.

Speaker 1 So that's what's happening right here.

Speaker 2 So the Meek Mill, he's trending because he's got a fire new album coming out.

Speaker 1 He's independent. He's putting out music independently.
So they're trying to take him down. Yeah, come Meek Mill.
He's got some serious heaters.

Speaker 1 One of them was: when I got a girl around me, I'm fucking her twice a day. LOL, ask some of your favorites.
Pussy, don't control me, but it's like a high.

Speaker 1 One love to the gay people, but that juicy pussy do it for me. I done ran red lights to get that feeling.

Speaker 1 feeling you're all weird on here like devils lol how much do you guys like pussy i love love pussy i think i would go i think i would go through yellow light i don't know if i'd run a red you want to be said would would you have red light cameras that's not worth it i would speed i would drive i would drive over the speed limit yeah i would for that gush for that juicy pussy and then he also had uh

Speaker 1 i'm from philly i don't do coke or freaky ass molly nobody won't even offer me coke because i'm that heavy does that mean fat or is it no it's just like he, he's such a non-coke guy, like you wouldn't even think to be like, hey, you want some of this?

Speaker 1 Oh, because I assume that was just a fat thing where it's like, you don't offer a fat guy Coke because like they're not doing it.

Speaker 2 They might die. They're fat.
No, also

Speaker 1 if they, if they were, if they did Coke, they would be skinnier. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's like, why waste your time with this guy? What does I'm from Philly have to do with that? Like, I'm from Philly, so no one offers me Coke. I don't think that's how it works.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, he said, no man or what would ever approach me about gay activity in the whole place. Don't get flipped.
Woke up seeing this on every blog. Like, they know I'm coming because

Speaker 1 there's a court filing. Yeah, someone sued Diddy, and there's been obviously a lot of allegations with Diddy the last, I don't know, three or four months along these lines.

Speaker 1 And someone sued him, one of his former workers or colleagues, and in the lawsuit, it straight up said, like, he knew, like, he was there when Diddy had sexual relations with redacted and redacted.

Speaker 1 And then I don't know how court filings work, and it doesn't really make sense for them to redact the names because at the bottom of the page, it had like an answer key that said

Speaker 1 it said, no, it said redacted person one

Speaker 1 is a rapper from Philadelphia who dated Nicki Minaj. Redacted person two is an R P singer who just performed the Super Bowl.
So

Speaker 1 clear number three

Speaker 1 is a Patriot fan who

Speaker 1 produces a podcast. Yeah.
No, that wasn't in there. But clearly Usher and P.
Diddy were the, I mean, Usher and Meek Mill were the two redact names.

Speaker 1 And then everyone has been talking about it, and Meek Mill is now just, you know,

Speaker 1 claiming that they're trying to

Speaker 1 take him down because he's got a, before his albums, he was on the label. Because he's got guy friends.
Now he's independent.

Speaker 1 And he's trying to put out music independently. And this is the industry trying to take him down.

Speaker 2 They're trying to take him down because he's too straight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like when he has a

Speaker 1 gays, though.

Speaker 2 He has sex with women twice a day. Yep.
It could not be any more clear than that.

Speaker 1 He's not addicted to it either. No.

Speaker 2 it's a high for him one love to the gay people but that juicy pussy do it for me yeah um

Speaker 1 that's such an awesome thing to just type and then hit send off do it for me uh all right so that's hank hot in the streets brought back a segment for it kyle filipowski hurt or injured What bullshit that was by Dukes, the Dukes.

Speaker 1 He was never even close to hurt. Jay Billis would tell you that a soreness is an injury.
It is. It is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you literally tweeted on Tuesday, like, I'm never doing a comedy game because I'm not going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 I said I'm contemplating retirement. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I haven't retired.

Speaker 2 I'm always contemplating retirement. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's always on my mind. When I get,

Speaker 1 listen,

Speaker 1 Sundays in the fall, when we're working until 2 a.m., I get out of bed. I'm like a running back.
It's like hard to go down the stairs. I'm like, should I hang it up? Yeah.
Yeah. Blogger.

Speaker 1 Then I get to fall in love with the game again come Thursday.

Speaker 2 We age like presidents. Four years is like 10 years for us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we've been doing this for for years.

Speaker 1 We've been doing this

Speaker 1 for two terms.

Speaker 2 When I woke up on Tuesday morning,

Speaker 2 I was embarrassed to say my legs were very sore from jumping three times. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was pathetic. I thought I was having a heart attack at one point because my chest was so sore.
And I was like, oh, no, you just benched for the first time in five years.

Speaker 1 That's why you think you're having a heart attack. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I also, I went on Pittsburgh Sports Radio TV. Love those guys.

Speaker 2 Went on there this morning and they were looking through the headlines of the combine And the way they asked me, they're like, so I see that Barcelona Sports had a combine, and you're the winner of the combine.

Speaker 2 It felt like a big slap in the face to me, and also to Barcelona Sports.

Speaker 1 But it ruled because I had like a

Speaker 1 proud. Well, you weren't.
Oh, yeah, you were. Yeah, I had a proud friend.

Speaker 1 Hank, the hater, coming at me.

Speaker 2 Get your facts right, Hank.

Speaker 1 I had a proud friend.

Speaker 2 You one athletic fuck.

Speaker 1 Last night, PFT, because a scout came up to me and was like, I saw your guys' combine. I was like, what'd you think? He's like, I think you guys are in the right profession.

Speaker 1 And he's like, I saw the beginning. Did Will end up winning? And I was like, no, PFT won.
Nice. Because of the Wonderlick.

Speaker 2 Because the Wonderlick and the vertical leap, which was completely real.

Speaker 2 There was,

Speaker 1 yeah, you can jump higher than Francis and Mark Titus.

Speaker 2 Well, the way that it works with the vertical leap is not how high you can touch Big Cat is. Right.

Speaker 1 How high your feet get off the title. I know.
Yeah. I still think Titus probably can jump higher.

Speaker 1 Tapes say otherwise.

Speaker 2 I touched Rim last year.

Speaker 2 But I've gotten like, I've lost so much athleticism. I just feel in my body in the last year.
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 I never had explosive fast twitch muscles. I've always had slow twitch muscles, but they've gotten slower.

Speaker 2 Yeah, my fast twitch is very slow.

Speaker 1 I've also gotten to a point where

Speaker 1 I don't stretch before doing anything because stretching is just more time you could get injured.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, you can't pull fat, right?

Speaker 1 That's facts. John Daly?

Speaker 2 Is that John Daly? I think so. Yeah.
Maybe David Ortiz. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Or what's

Speaker 1 coach Wiley, the guy for the Browns. Yeah.
Could have been him. Bob Wiley.

Speaker 2 You didn't see the troops stretching before they stormed the beach at Normandy. It's a fact.

Speaker 1 All right, I have one other thing before we get to Hank's list. You might have something else too, PFT.
The Tyree Kill lawsuit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's something.

Speaker 2 It is something.

Speaker 1 So, Tyreek Hill, we'll say...

Speaker 1 Better foot, way better football player than Guy.

Speaker 2 As good of a guy he is, much, much, much better at playing football.

Speaker 1 He's being sued, though, by a woman who broke her leg or hurt her leg and um

Speaker 1 the reason why this happened allegedly is it was a british social media influencer named sophie hall who put her son into tyree kill's uh football camp but before the football camp started tyree kill invited her and her son over to his house and he was running drills.

Speaker 1 So it goes, Hall claims after she made her way to Hill's home, he asked her to participate in some football drills during a training session he was having in his backyard.

Speaker 1 Hill allegedly asked her to rush against him in a defensive line versus offensive line one-on-one style workout.

Speaker 1 According to Hall, she shoved the Super Bowl champion backward, which caused him to be embarrassed. Mr.
Hill's attitude changed and became angry.

Speaker 1 Hall alleges Hill then flipped the drill around so he could rush against her.

Speaker 1 And after a couple reps, she said Hill charged into her violently and with great force, causing her to suffer a right leg injury.

Speaker 1 This sounds like it's a football drill.

Speaker 2 It sounds like I would, if I was the

Speaker 1 football drill, what do you get hurt in football drills?

Speaker 2 If I was the Buffalo Bills or if I was any other team in that division, I would consider signing Sophie to shut Tyreek Hill down.

Speaker 2 It says, unfortunately, after getting humiliated in front of friends and family when he was knocked backwards during a friendly football lesson by his friend Sophie Hall, Tyreek became enraged and forcefully and purposefully shoved Miss Hall, severely fracturing her leg.

Speaker 1 But that's also, it was a football drill. Yeah.
Sounds like she didn't get her feet moving.

Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe bad technique on her part.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know.
This is just, I mean, Tyree Kill getting sued for this is quite something. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, why do you think he invited her to his house? Was he like, I think your son's a good football player? I'd like to give him extra lessons, probably, right?

Speaker 1 Let me

Speaker 1 look her up and see. Let me see.
See if she looks like her. I think I follow her on Instagram.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
He invited her for football. For football reasons.
For football reasons only.

Speaker 2 Definitely. Whenever I see, this is probably bad for me to admit, but when I see named in a lawsuit, a party who's described first and foremost as being an influencer, that's always a red flag for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would say so.

Speaker 2 Influencer Sophie Hall.

Speaker 1 Seems like a nice woman.

Speaker 2 Let me see. Hold on.

Speaker 1 I want to see how nice.

Speaker 1 I had it, and then it's loading. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, actually, let me take this back. So she seems like a nice woman, but she also seems like

Speaker 1 she could play nose tackle. Okay.
Yeah, she's got some curves.

Speaker 2 She could play nose tackle. I'll put it this way: Bill Belichick would look at drafting her in the first round.

Speaker 1 I'm not surprised she was able to blow up the line of scrimmage on Tyreek.

Speaker 2 She's got a motor.

Speaker 1 Yes. It doesn't quit.
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Speaker 1 Okay, Hank.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 The number hat number

Speaker 1 two.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You want me to just go into the middle of the morning? You who I saw last night, Hank? Who I told him,

Speaker 1 I was like, hey, Hank's dropping his top 10 Patriots. I don't know if you're on it.
Bravel? Nope.

Speaker 2 Think horses.

Speaker 1 Welker. Yeah.
Wes Welker. And he was a little upset.
I mean, he's like, we spent a whole weekend. We did spend a whole weekend together with the British come together.
He is a great guy.

Speaker 1 He did look jacked. They were showing him in one of the episodes.

Speaker 1 He was ripped when he was playing for the Patriots.

Speaker 1 No rings, though. I mean, the great, great dude

Speaker 1 was starstruck when we got to hang out with him. That was like 2013, early Barcelona days.
I was geeking out. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We spent the whole weekend with Wes Welker, and then in the last second, Hank was like, can I get a picture? I was like, dude, we just hung with him.

Speaker 1 But then it was also the worst hang because we went to Breeders' Cup with him. And the next horse race he went to was a Kentucky Derby where he got busted for Molly.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I must be the biggest loser ever because he was like, he probably brought some Molly to the Breeders' Cup and was like, these guys suck.

Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe I'm not going to waste my Molly on them. Maybe he thought you were from Philly and knew not to offer you guys drugs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But he was part of those teams.

Speaker 1 They lost the Giants.

Speaker 1 It was a down era for the Patriots. A lot of narratives, a lot of people saying, you know, Brady Tawash, Brady and Belichick tend to break up the team.
They only won three Super Bowls. Disappointment.

Speaker 1 Yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 1 This player came in, changed everything.

Speaker 1 Just vibes-wise, he, he, you know, I think I was 18 or 19 when he, when he signed with the team. So I was an 18, 19-year-old.
He was everything.

Speaker 1 Rob Gronkowski, Gronk Spike, freak of nature, the most fun

Speaker 1 player, you know, non-Tom Brady, but just everything he did was fun. His attitude, you know, I've been lucky to party him and his brothers.
Like, they're as fun as advertised.

Speaker 1 No, it's Rob Gronkowski. Oh, because Aaron Hernandez is his brothers.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, also fun guy.

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 1 the whole family is great, great people,

Speaker 1 unbelievable player, greatest tight end of all time.

Speaker 2 I think he might be the easiest player to root for if you're a fan of that team. Like Rob Gronkowski, it's impossible to not absolutely love the guy if you're a Patriots.

Speaker 1 And he is what he is.

Speaker 1 There's no shtick. There's no, he's putting on an act.
He's just

Speaker 1 loves life. Facebook, beers, Spike.
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it.
That's the whole thing.

Speaker 2 That's how he probably, that's going to be his Hall of Fame speech.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He'll definitely try to, he'll definitely try to spike something that will break the bust.

Speaker 2 He'll just try to spike his own bust in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Gronk was, he was unguardable and also the funnest person in the world. Like,

Speaker 2 I would agree with you putting him at number two. I think that's a good choice.

Speaker 1 First night we all hung out together. We were with members of the Bronckowski family.
I've met a lot of them over the years, hung out with them a bunch of times.

Speaker 1 Like I said, it's like they're as fun as advertised.

Speaker 1 They live the life that you think they live,

Speaker 1 which is great.

Speaker 1 It's fun to see. He was such a good player.

Speaker 1 It's gonk. Honorable mention?

Speaker 1 Honorable mention,

Speaker 1 because I'm still salty that they yada, yada, yada, 2003, 2004. He was only on the team for a short amount of time, but he was

Speaker 1 an unbelievable running back in 2004, Corey Dillon.

Speaker 2 Oh, clock killing Corey Dillon.

Speaker 1 1,600 yards, dominated. Like, he, you know, Patriots never really had

Speaker 1 a running back that was as, you know, superstar running back.

Speaker 1 He was kind of like Rainy Moss before Rainy Moss, too, where when they signed him, it was like, you know, trouble off the field and like he might not be a good fit for the team.

Speaker 1 Like, they got him for nothing, and then he just dominated that season. And he was good in 2005

Speaker 1 as well.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, Corey Dillon. The era of big running backs.
Yes. That's that.
Yeah. Okay, good job.
But he wasn't even in the documentary. Like, it's crazy.
And he was, that was, you know, 21 wins in a row.

Speaker 1 He was the star running back, 1,600 yards. Doesn't even get a highlight in there.
How crazy?

Speaker 2 How many do you think Wes Welker has somebody come up to him and is like, congrats on all those Super Bowls?

Speaker 1 Like, they think that he was on a Super Bowl champion. Probably a lot.
I mean, it's pain. He had, you know, tough.
He had it. He had that drop.
Like,

Speaker 1 it probably pains him. What do you think hurts Wes Welker more when someone says, congrats on the Super Bowls, or someone's like, hey, that catch you made against the Falcons was insane? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Probably that one.

Speaker 1 Probably that one well the and and the clip the the wally pip clip is so fun yeah bellatrak he's like you ever you know wally pip he's like just give it to him then yeah yeah and he did oh he can have it yeah yeah damn uh okay and he had it do we have anything else before we get to shifter

Speaker 1 i think we're good to go to shifter great interview with shifter combine week and then we'll we'll finish on the other side with uh firefest which i think we have a couple stories from combine week uh pft you want to do an ad real quick before we get to shifter all protein protein bars generally taste the same, but not one bars.

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Speaker 2 And now here's Adam Schefter.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite interviews of the year. It is Adam Schefter at the Combine, our yearly check-in with Shefty.

Speaker 1 First of all, thanks for making this a tradition. We appreciate it.
And my first question is

Speaker 1 a tough question.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't want it any other way than to start like that.

Speaker 1 Where's the des tape? No, we'll get to that later.

Speaker 1 How the fuck did you get the Punksatani Phil breaking news? Like, are you, is there a point where you're like, I've got enough?

Speaker 1 Because you did the NBA, you've obviously owned the NFL, and now you're doing little rats in western Pennsylvania, seeing their shadows. Like,

Speaker 2 enough is enough.

Speaker 1 You got to to be like, I don't need this beat, but you got it. You broke the news.

Speaker 4 Well, I appreciate that. That was probably the biggest story I've had this year, I would say.

Speaker 4 Really proud of that one. Stands on its own.

Speaker 1 You scooped El Nino. Yeah.
How did that happen?

Speaker 4 I had some plants there in Pennsylvania that were done and set up well in advance.

Speaker 4 They knew the importance of that story to our country. Yes, yes.
We knew. They knew.
And they

Speaker 4 knew that if they want that news dispensed on a big platform, they knew where to go with it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and so somebody there is kind enough to keep me in mind, like anybody on any NFL story, shot me the news. And now we're waiting for spring to get here.

Speaker 4 And I don't think the message has hit Indianapolis yet. Yeah, no, it's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Definitely not. Definitely not.

Speaker 2 You know that Woj is going to have a guy in Pucksatoni next year. That's cool.

Speaker 4 You know, I'm good with that. Woach,

Speaker 4 I love Woach.

Speaker 4 He's all over things. I love information.
I love stories.

Speaker 1 I love how much you love love information wait do you do you and woge ever sit down and like because it it's very few people that you can relate to

Speaker 4 let me say this yeah woge knows me i would say

Speaker 4 well professionally speaking better than my wife yeah and and it's not close whoa you got i didn't know you guys are an item

Speaker 1 damn we we can

Speaker 4 understand

Speaker 4 exactly yeah like he'll call me sometimes like god i'm working on this trade i'm waiting for this waiting for that And sometimes I can say, do this or do that.

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 4 sometimes I'll just say, hey, you just got to wait now. And I know what he's feeling.
I know what he's going through.

Speaker 4 I've been through the things that he's been through. He's been through the things I've been through.
We go through them at various points of the year.

Speaker 4 And I love getting a text from Rose who'll be like, God, I'm waiting on one right now.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
That feeling.

Speaker 1 Is that the best feeling?

Speaker 4 And by the way, like, we also talk about the business, what it's like. Yeah.
Talk about, you know, life at ESPN. Talk about,

Speaker 4 you know, how long can you do this?

Speaker 1 Ooh, how long can you do this?

Speaker 4 As long as you can do it, as long as they'll have you.

Speaker 1 But do you feel yourself slowing down at all?

Speaker 1 Have you had a moment in the last year where you're like, old chefty would have had that?

Speaker 4 No, that's not how I feel. Okay.
I still feel, I still love the information. Like, I was going after the groundhog.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I was going hard after him, and nothing was going to stand in my way.

Speaker 2 Your fingers getting slower?

Speaker 2 At what age do you hit your prime as an insider?

Speaker 4 That's a great question. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 Great question. Thank you.

Speaker 4 You know, I think it just changes. I think what happens over time is you care

Speaker 4 less about some of the smaller things and you recognize a lot of the noise that's just out there. And I don't really care about that noise.
Like the other day when Peter King retired,

Speaker 4 He said something. I put that on my phone because I thought it was very interesting.

Speaker 2 I broke the news to Big Cat. I thought he would cry.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 You thought he'd cry? Yeah. Really? Why is that?

Speaker 1 Well, he told me that Peter King died.

Speaker 1 But he didn't.

Speaker 4 He didn't die, fortunately. No.
But he basically had enough. But he said something.
He wrote one line in the column, and I'm looking for it because I wrote it down.

Speaker 1 You wrote it down. That's plagiarism, Adam.
You could copy and paste.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's in my phone. I'm just looking for it right now.

Speaker 1 Hold on one second.

Speaker 1 I'm on the alert writing my alert. No.

Speaker 1 You didn't bring any of your lackeys, although Stephen Shea could be a compromise.

Speaker 4 You know, the media has been conditioned to keep throwing logs in the fire day after day after day when absolutely nothing is happening. I'm thrilled to not contribute to that anymore.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's true.

Speaker 1 When you have a lull or a dead period, there's the natural inclination to be like, well, something's got to happen. I got to report something.

Speaker 4 And I don't really care about that.

Speaker 4 He talked about he had no interest in the head coach hiring cycle. I couldn't be more interested.
You're right. You know, free agency couldn't be more interested.

Speaker 4 You know, we'll get past the draft, and there'll be throwing camps and conditioning camps and OTAs.

Speaker 4 That you're not. Interest level, not real high.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so it's interesting because the last couple years, I feel like when you're talking about throwing logs on a fire, the discussion has always, we're just like, let's talk about Dak again.

Speaker 2 Let's see where are we at with Dakota.

Speaker 1 Dak is Dural. Is he elite? But I feel like.

Speaker 1 A lot, it's good.

Speaker 2 But Dura Elite is what we should call him because we're always having that discussion.

Speaker 2 But I feel like this season is actually the time where it is interesting to talk about Dak and his contract and what the Cowboys are going to be doing with it.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to use this as an opportunity to ask you, is Dak Prescott going to sign an extension this year with the Dallas Cowboys or is he going to be a free agent?

Speaker 4 I think they have to get something done with him. I mean, he's got a $59.5 million cap number.
They want to get a big deal done with CeeDee Lamb. They want to get a big deal done with Micah Parsons.

Speaker 4 They want to upgrade their roster. Jerry Jones himself has said they're all in.
Well, how can you be all in if your quarterback is taking up that much of the cap?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 And by the way, if you don't get it done with him,

Speaker 4 then after the season, you can't tag him.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 So he could just leave.

Speaker 2 Couldn't Dak also say, like, I don't want to sign an extension?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he can, but I think he's got too much love and respect for the organization, although there have been some mixed messages coming out of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, from his camp, from his brother. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, from both sides.

Speaker 4 Even Jerry Jones, like, we're, like, was that a shot? We're only going to go as far as Dak takes us. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, so he didn't take you past the Packers

Speaker 4 in the divisional round. Like, I don't know.
It was kind of weird to me. Yeah.
He said that. So, in a way, I felt like Dak was being called out.

Speaker 4 And I don't know how that's going to impact the talks, but to me, they have to get something done with him. They have to.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you mentioned something there,

Speaker 1 the coaching cycle that you're very interested in.

Speaker 1 Why did Mike Rabel and Bill Belichick not get jobs? Well,

Speaker 4 Mike Vrabel, I think, would have gotten the Chargers' job if Jim Harbaugh had gotten onto the plane to go to Atlanta because I think Jim would have had a decent chance to get the Falcons, which obviously one move

Speaker 4 impacts another.

Speaker 4 And I think Vrabel had a great interview with the Chargers, and they really liked him. And it just was one of those things.
It just didn't go his way in this cycle.

Speaker 4 I think the fact that he's out there, the fact that Bill is out there, I think it speeds up the coaching firing cycle next season

Speaker 4 when teams are ordinarily making moves. We get to Thanksgiving usually.
Sometimes there's a move that's made early in the year, one

Speaker 4 stray firing. Oh, Carolina fired Frank Reich.

Speaker 4 But usually teams wait till after Thanksgiving and then they start trickling in.

Speaker 4 I think it wouldn't shock me if we started getting stuff like late October, early November, because teams want to go talk to Vrabel. They want to go talk to Belichick.

Speaker 4 I mean, Pete Carroll's still out there. He should be in that conversation with the attitude he has.
But Vrabel, I think, came close in Los Angeles. Belichick

Speaker 4 came close in Atlanta. At one point, people thought it was going to happen.
And I think that there were just different factions and different groups, and some people wanted him.

Speaker 4 And then other people who didn't wound up prevailing. He doesn't get the Atlanta job.
There were conversations with Washington at one point. It didn't happen.

Speaker 4 Washington was going to go in a different direction. They did talk to him.

Speaker 4 So it just didn't happen. And I think when you look at some of the openings, like, I think these teams weren't looking for those kinds of guys this cycle.
Right.

Speaker 4 But we'll get seven, eight, nine openings next year again. And I would think with the stature of these guys and their accomplishments, they'll be top of the list.

Speaker 4 And I think they'll be in play next year.

Speaker 1 Okay, one more coaching question. And this is going to hurt me.
Did the Bears ever even reach out to Jim Harbaugh?

Speaker 4 I don't believe they did. God damn it.

Speaker 4 I don't believe he was in play there. And I think he was Chargers, Falcons.

Speaker 1 I sent him the video, too, of like the video I made. Like sometimes you got to go back to move forward of him and Bears stuff.

Speaker 4 And what did it do?

Speaker 1 He said that was a great video. That's all he said.
He said that's a very nice video. I don't talk about another man's job.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that hurts. Okay.
Okay. So Belichick and Vrabel, you would say if you had to guess right now, 100% they get a job.

Speaker 4 I would never say 100%, but I like both their chances. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. So 100%.

Speaker 2 It wasn't because Vrabel is too big. You don't think Vraibel is too physically intimidating?

Speaker 1 Ask Diane about that. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we're going to have a screen with the Caribbean, right?

Speaker 2 Because my idea is that there should be a rooney rule for fat guys where every off-season owners have to interview at least one fat head coach. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, like if Vraibel is too big, I'm surprised that I haven't been under consideration for Hank Goji Joe. Yeah, right.
I mean, MPFT would fit right in.

Speaker 1 Dude, I'd be top of the list.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You see guys get fired in September for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 5'7, 5'8? Like, we're ready to take take a look at the 2000s. I'm 5'9 after you know,

Speaker 4 that's the qualification.

Speaker 2 All right, we can do it. If we're gonna come in guns blazing, I think you got shorter because I walked in this room and I was like, oh, hmm, I think I'm taller than you.
Maybe I grew.

Speaker 2 I might have grown over the last year, Chapter.

Speaker 1 You never know.

Speaker 1 It's possible.

Speaker 4 Listen, I'm at the age where I start shrinking. Like my dad, when I stand next to him, now I notice like every time he was at eye level and now he's down to my chin.

Speaker 1 It's weird to be me. This is a really cute combo between the two of you.

Speaker 2 Listen, we get it. Big cat, you don't feel our pain.

Speaker 6 No, I don't.

Speaker 2 You sit up there in your treetops and you're born on third base, act like you hit a triple because you hit the genetic lottery. Well, man.
Well, yeah, this builds character being shorter.

Speaker 1 Men should be over six feet. I'll say it.

Speaker 4 And you know what? I'm going to blame my parents, right? Like short parents.

Speaker 4 And it was at a day and age where my parents, you know, my mom smoked cigarettes, my dad smoked, like they're smoking, drinking. They stunted you.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 You could have been a varsity athlete.

Speaker 4 I could have been dunking. I I could have disqualified myself writing these NFL coaching openings that I'm now in consideration for.

Speaker 2 Chef, I got a question for you about mock drafts.

Speaker 4 That's another thing that I have no use for.

Speaker 2 So the mock draft industry is become a cottage industry. Stephen Che is our, what, second-ranked lieutenant? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You actually broke that news when he got his demotion.

Speaker 4 And it hurt me. Yeah.
It hurt me to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It hurt all of us.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It was that some stories they cut to the bone. Right.

Speaker 1 That one did.

Speaker 2 It brings me no pleasure to report that I've demoted.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 2 But if you had to, if you were to put together like your, the Adam Schefter mock top five with the information that you have, because you, you swim in information, I think you could be like the best mock draft compiler of all time.

Speaker 4 There are some years where you feel like

Speaker 4 you can get a lot of the picks, and there are other years that something happens that just upsets the apple cart and kind of throws things into chaos.

Speaker 4 So I think there are some years years that I would be fairly accurate and other years, like a lot of people, not as accurate. I just think that those exercises are so hard.

Speaker 4 That's why I don't put much creative. They're fun to look at.
Like you could look at a mock draft over and over,

Speaker 4 like eating pizza. It's all good.
Yeah. But

Speaker 4 some of them, again,

Speaker 4 if there's one trade and one guy goes, that just changes everything.

Speaker 1 Or if the Raiders reach like they do every year, it just changes everything. Fast changes.

Speaker 4 There have been times where,

Speaker 4 there will be people that call you from teams. Hey, give me your top 15 picks.
There were some years that were big.

Speaker 4 Other years, not as big.

Speaker 1 So this year, Caleb Williams is a bear. Can we announce that right now? Go ahead.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to stop you.

Speaker 1 Caleb Williams is a bear. Where is Justin Fields going to go?

Speaker 1 That's the question. I'm sure you're working on it right now because

Speaker 1 it does feel like they're going to make the trade before maybe free agency.

Speaker 4 Well, it was amazing. Yeah, Ryan Pauls couldn't have been more more transparent about that.
Like, we want to get this done before free agency begins.

Speaker 4 What's interesting to me is that there are going to be moves that are made, right? Like, Kirk Cousins is a free agent. Does he go back to Minnesota? And what if he doesn't?

Speaker 4 Baker Mayfield's a free agent. Does he go back to Tampa or does he not? Like, these moves impact others.

Speaker 4 So then, if one of these teams happened to lose a quarterback, would they then be more apt to go trade for Justin Fields? But the Bears want to get it wrapped up as a courtesy to Justin Fields.

Speaker 4 Justin Fields, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And again, what if they don't get the compensation that they want to get?

Speaker 1 What is the compensation? Well, what are you hearing?

Speaker 4 Well, I think it's pretty simple. Ryan Poles, the Bears' general manager, worked in Kansas City at the time that they traded for Alex Smith.
They traded two twos

Speaker 4 to the 49ers for Alex Smith.

Speaker 4 Sam Darnold, to me,

Speaker 4 when you talk to people, might be the most relevant compensation comparison. The Jets traded him to the Panthers in 21, I believe it was, and it was for a

Speaker 4 six that year and a four and a two the next year. So three picks.
Okay. A two, four, and six.

Speaker 4 And I think that the Justin Fields

Speaker 4 compensation is somewhere between what Alex Smith got and what Sam Darnold brought.

Speaker 1 So like a second and a half. A two and a five.
A two and a four. Yeah, yeah, okay.
A two and a three.

Speaker 4 Something like that. But here's the problem.
Or the issue. Like, who's the team that's doing it? Right, right.
Like, Atlanta might have some interest, might not.

Speaker 4 I think it's got some interest in some other quarterbacks, too. Is Pittsburgh going to do that when they still want to give Mitchell Trubisky a chance? Are they going to give up?

Speaker 2 Kenny Pickett, you mean?

Speaker 4 Kenny Pickett. Yeah, yeah.
Kenny Pickett. Mitch Trubisky moved up front.

Speaker 1 I think he's out of chances. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Are they going to give up the compensation? And then

Speaker 4 is there another, like, who else outside Atlanta and Pittsburgh do you think would be main players for Justin Fields?

Speaker 2 Maybe Denver?

Speaker 1 No. Ooh, no? Nope.

Speaker 1 Russ is gone.

Speaker 2 What are they going to do with Russ?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think they move on from Russ. I mean, Sean Payne, you just read between the lines.
Right.

Speaker 1 I don't even have to read between the lines.

Speaker 2 I think it's just saying. Sean Payne's lines are like he holds up three fingers in a straight line and then he takes the first two down.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Read between those lines.

Speaker 2 He's gone.

Speaker 4 Well, he had that good line about he saw the meme out there. Yeah, the Broncos family in Jersey and all the quarterbacks.
We got to make sure we don't get the next one.

Speaker 4 Like he talked about the next one. Yeah.
You know, you're already talking about the next quarterback. Yeah.
While you still got a quarterback.

Speaker 2 But you don't think that the Broncos are in the Justin Fields market?

Speaker 4 I don't.

Speaker 1 So it's a limited amount of teams.

Speaker 4 Again, what other teams?

Speaker 4 We're brainstorming here. Okay.
We're trying to help your franchise here, big cat, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 What other teams could we think of that concede?

Speaker 1 Patriots, although they have a top three pick. Yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Washington? No, I can't do that.

Speaker 1 That would be interesting.

Speaker 1 That would be very interesting.

Speaker 2 Is that a real thing or is that just you trying to

Speaker 2 show the pot a little bit?

Speaker 1 We're just doing a thought exercise here.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we're trying to help out the Bears to see what other teams could conceivably step up for Justin Fields. And so, by the way, what if the Steelers aren't willing to trade that?

Speaker 4 And what if the Falcons aren't willing to trade? Then what are you doing? We're fucked. Well, now you've got to wait for free agency to get to see some of the other movements.

Speaker 4 So, that to me, like, we go into every offseason, and there's always a big question. And I can't think going into this offseason what's any more interesting interesting than the Bears at one.

Speaker 4 We assume they will take Caleb Williams if everything goes well. And then you assume they move on from Justin Fields and where he goes.
So it's two quarterbacks, two teams.

Speaker 4 We'll see how it shakes out.

Speaker 2 The Las Vegas Raiders, would they be in the market?

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 4 Interesting. It is interesting.

Speaker 4 Anything's possible. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 4 I haven't heard them. But that's my point.
Whether it's the Raiders or some other team, like, what about the Seahawks? They keep being non-committal on Justin Field, on Geno Smith.

Speaker 4 I don't think they're a team, but there's going to be a team, there are with most of these situations, that all of a sudden just pops in that you weren't expecting that team to be in play for this player.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And I don't know, maybe it's the Raiders.

Speaker 4 I'm trying to think, like, who.

Speaker 2 So I guess it's not the Cardinals, right? Because the Cardinals put out that really strange tweet the other day that just said, like, there's a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it seems like that you don't just fire that tweet off if you have a franchise quarterback, right?

Speaker 2 You have to, that's them letting him know, like, hey, maybe they just tried to do a trade, it didn't work out, but we're committed to you now. Would you just get

Speaker 1 answer your phone?

Speaker 4 Just a little text popping in, just making sure that

Speaker 4 it feels isn't traded while we're doing this conversation.

Speaker 1 Okay, read the text. Who texted you? Tell us who texted you, NFC or AFC.

Speaker 4 Neither right now. It's

Speaker 1 interesting.

Speaker 1 Goodell.

Speaker 1 Warmer. Oh,

Speaker 1 there we go. Troy Vinson.
Oh.

Speaker 2 But the Cardinals are firmly in on Kyler. Was there any talk at all about Kyler Murray's future with that organization?

Speaker 4 I think it was them

Speaker 4 just announcing to the world because there had been so much speculation about them moving on from Kyler, them getting a top pick, them being in play for Caleb Williams, even though they turned out to be a little bit better than that and played themselves out of the number one pick.

Speaker 4 People wondering about Kyler's future. There were all these discussions, all this conversation.
And I think it was just them planting a flag and saying, this is our franchise.

Speaker 4 We got our franchise core.

Speaker 2 I thought it was like if a husband or a boyfriend comes home and they just have flowers for no reason, the wife's like, wait, wait a second.

Speaker 1 What'd you do wrong? Like that tweet just came out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 Kyler's probably like, huh?

Speaker 4 Right. There was no need

Speaker 1 to announce anything. That's what we expected.
Exactly. But okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so maybe, maybe they were meeting with the Bears privately about Justin Fields. And before anybody could report that, while other reporters were distracted with Satani Phil,

Speaker 4 they figured we should just plant our flag and say, here's our franchise quarterback.

Speaker 2 You know what you should do? The last hill for you to climb as a reporter, you should announce the election this year.

Speaker 4 You know what? Yeah.

Speaker 4 RFK Jr.? If Steve Cornacki could come into our world, then why can't we go into his world?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, the numbers freak on Sunday night football.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It looks like Roan.

Speaker 2 I think Tuesday night. in November, I think you have to.

Speaker 1 That's the only way Stephen Che will find out who's the next president. Scooper Marshall.
You might have have to text him personally because he doesn't get any news that's not Schefter news.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 4 We got to report precincts before

Speaker 4 anybody else does.

Speaker 1 We're going to find out about Ukraine and Russia for like three months because he's like,

Speaker 1 Schefter hasn't talked about it. Yeah,

Speaker 2 who's the ghost of Kiev?

Speaker 1 I haven't heard.

Speaker 2 My notifications didn't send anything.

Speaker 1 How pumped were you when you broke the Aaron Rodgers news live on air? Was that a highlight of the last year?

Speaker 1 Because you got the reactions. I think it was mean exactly.

Speaker 4 Well, the funny thing was the reactions, it became this permanent like little picture that's taken, like all these

Speaker 4 facial reactions. And

Speaker 4 I got in the text on the compensation on air. So when I said that it included the Jets won, that's when everybody won one nuts.
I'm like, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 4 Because I didn't have time to process it the way I should have.

Speaker 4 Like, I didn't deliver it the right way. Right.
I should have said, okay, here's the deal. The Jets are.
getting Rodgers and this, but they're giving up that. But it's happening in live TV.

Speaker 4 That's live TV for you. So as soon as I said the Jets won, that's when, you know, Amina Kimes, you know, you would have thought that, you know,

Speaker 1 it's crazy.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 what's up with Rogers?

Speaker 1 Is he going to be fully healthy?

Speaker 1 I mean, the whole Achilles thing, like him saying he was going to be back, I actually think he did the Jets a disservice because they never thought about something else because they're like, well, maybe he'll be back, strung him along a little bit and had Zach Wilson play the rest of the year.

Speaker 4 Well, the plan was to have Zach Wilson in bubble wrap,

Speaker 4 not have to play at all and let him grow and learn. And if you

Speaker 4 remember back to hard knocks, how Zach Wilson reacted around Aaron Rodgers, right? He was soaking up everything that he was saying.

Speaker 4 It's unfortunate for him that he got thrown into the fire again because that was not the plan.

Speaker 4 So it would have been great if they had a quarterback like a Gardner Minshew that they could have turned to when Rodgers went out. They didn't plan for that.
Right.

Speaker 4 And I remember being at that game that night, and I had this conversation. Where did I see him? Christopher Johnson, the Jets owner.

Speaker 4 We do the pregame show for Monday Night Football. We're on the field.
Aaron Rodgers runs out with the flag. It was, oof, a lot of adrenaline, a lot of emotion.

Speaker 4 Couldn't wait to see what was going to happen. Go back into the truck, and Rodgers goes down.
And you knew it was not your run-of-the-mill injury. So I'm like, okay, I was supposed to go home

Speaker 4 at the end of the first quarter, get out of there, And

Speaker 4 I stayed behind. I went outside the Jets' locker room.
I remember seeing Christopher Johnson walking in. I'm like, what's the deal? He goes, I don't know.
I don't know. Where did I see him recently?

Speaker 4 How to be, where would I have seen him? I said, you knew when you passed me, right? He said, oh, yeah, I was with Aaron the entire time.

Speaker 4 You know, and

Speaker 4 everybody was just so devastated by that night and the circumstances surrounding it.

Speaker 4 And the team never recovered from it. I remember I stayed around to do the post-game show and Scott Van Pelch show, and I remember Jet fans, like, they were happy they won the game.

Speaker 1 I'm like, why are you happy?

Speaker 4 Like,

Speaker 4 that's exactly, it's over. Like, it just, it's, it doesn't matter that they won.

Speaker 4 I don't think people grasped the magnitude of it immediately.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of how much they built around Aaron Rodgers and how he was the lead pick.

Speaker 4 And I thought maybe they were in denial that maybe, okay, it wasn't going to be a ruptured Achilles, which it was.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, it was a a night that changed the season for the Jets and the Jets luck. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then with the back and forth that they had with Wilson, Tim Boyle, you remember they put in Tim Boyle for a spark this year?

Speaker 4 Trevor Simeon.

Speaker 2 Trevor Simeon.

Speaker 1 Who was

Speaker 2 it? Was it Sala making all those decisions, or was that coming from upstairs?

Speaker 4 Oh, I don't think that's coming from upstairs. I mean, he's the coach of the team.
I think he probably decides on the quarterback. You'd have to think that.

Speaker 4 No, I don't think anybody's telling him who to play. I think he's doing what's best for the team.

Speaker 4 Again, I come back to the fact that it's unfortunate that they had to put Zach Zach out there because I don't think that was the plan. And I still think that guy's got talent.

Speaker 4 But with that position, it's got to be harnessed and harvested the right way, or these guys wind up crashing and burning before they have a chance to become quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 And that's what happened to him this year. And now he's going to get traded somewhere else or sign on somewhere else.

Speaker 4 And we'll see if he could develop into the kind of guy that they thought he was when they drafted him. Was it two overall?

Speaker 1 So based off the Aaron Rodgers saying, we're big grass guys. We support grass.
Is the league going to actually

Speaker 1 hearing

Speaker 1 the players when they say, hey, we don't want to play on this turf anymore?

Speaker 1 Is there anything that's going to happen that they're maybe taking steps to be like, yeah, we should get back to playing on grass more often than not?

Speaker 4 That has been out there for how long?

Speaker 4 Players have always wanted to play on grass. Right.

Speaker 1 But it feels like it's gaining a little bit more traction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, with the Jets' injuries, with some of the concussions.

Speaker 4 Met Life Stadium, and I they won't like it, but I mean, there have been some bad

Speaker 4 injuries on that field. Yes, there just have been.

Speaker 4 That feel makes me nervous, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, what, but, but it does feel like a little bit more momentum. Is the league just like

Speaker 1 we don't care? We're playing on what we play. Well, they're playing the World Cup, right? And yeah, they're putting in grass for that.
So, like, it just can't be done, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Like, is the league at least hearing this, or is it nah, we don't care?

Speaker 1 I because it is always always that weird thing where the league will talk about player safety, but then when it comes to action, it can sometimes be very different.

Speaker 4 Well, I haven't heard conversation about going away from field turf fields in general, but to me, it should be pretty simple, that if they're going to put grass in that stadium for the World Cup game, just leave the grass there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, leave it there. Just leave it there.
And I don't care if it's dying out in the winter. I don't care if they got to paint it the way they did in Cleveland, paint the grass green.

Speaker 4 Like, whatever you got to, it's, to me, preferable to play on that rather than the other stuff that has led to some unfortunate injuries.

Speaker 2 You know, the Bengals, I think the Vikings, maybe, they had the split turf field, and they got away from that. So there's no more of the split turf anymore.
So they're going to be.

Speaker 2 I think some teams are trying to. Yeah, we know everything about the Gladiators.

Speaker 1 Clearly. Did we ever get a conclusion to Sodgate in the Super Bowl two years ago?

Speaker 4 They replaced the turf sound of like the week or two before. Sort of like the 49ers practice for season.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Sod Father at it again.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Two sod controversies. Cost the Eagles a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Both involving the Chiefs. Interesting.

Speaker 2 Interesting. How scripted was the NFL this year for Taylor Swift to be at the Super Bowl and to be hugging and smooching and rubbing Travis Kelsey's belly after it was a hell of a script.

Speaker 4 I mean, I read it in the preseason.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I couldn't believe the twists and turns that it was going to take. Yeah.
You knew, though.

Speaker 2 You knew the second they got together. It's like, okay, Chiefs.

Speaker 1 This is where it's going. That's easy.
Are the Chiefs bad for football? A good question. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Were the Patriots bad for football? Some may say.

Speaker 2 They were bad for every other team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the next conversation. Once a team establishes a dynasty, we then naturally have to go with, are they bad for football?

Speaker 4 To me, when you get to watch a guy like Patrick Mahomes, who's in the prime of his career or entering the prime of his career, might even be there yet, that's great.

Speaker 4 You get one of these all-time players. I don't know when that's ever bad.
Now, it's bad for the rest of the league. Like, I would not want to be a coach in the AFC West.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton, they took those jobs. You take those jobs at your own peril.
Yeah. Because you got to face that guy for the next dozen years.
Like, that's brutal.

Speaker 4 That is good luck unseating him. And all the quarterbacks in the AFC, I mean, there was an opportunity this year for somebody to take the step forward.

Speaker 4 Like, can you imagine, can you imagine betting the Ravens at the beginning of the season to win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 Fuck you.

Speaker 4 And then not hedging that.

Speaker 1 No. Fuck you.
I'm acting like you fucking

Speaker 1 the best quarterback in the world. You know way too much, Shepherd.
God damn it.

Speaker 1 God damn it. It would never be me.
There was an opportunity for Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. This is all where that was going that they literally didn't cash in on.

Speaker 1 Well, Shifter cash in the BCAT didn't cash in on him. 5'6? Imagine, Shepherd, if

Speaker 2 somebody did that. Also with the Bills at the same time.

Speaker 1 Listen, I bet on the Chiefs in the Super Bowl and I made it all right. Yeah.
Could you imagine betting on Brock Purdy against Patrick Mahomes? Can you imagine doing it?

Speaker 1 Can you imagine back-to-back years doing the Eagles one year and then the Ravens the next, bro? Can you imagine that? Again, I bet the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, unlike some people in this year. Wow.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Listen, this is

Speaker 2 the people talk about gambling. The NFL is above gambling.

Speaker 1 We should move on from this last question. Man, can you imagine doing the NFL?

Speaker 4 You can't do that. Not hedging and then not hedging again the next year.

Speaker 1 You know how to get the chance to watch my game. I can't even imagine that.

Speaker 2 I can't imagine it at all.

Speaker 1 I can't imagine it at all. Can we talk about the Bills, though?

Speaker 2 Can we talk about Josh, Josh Allen, and the Bills?

Speaker 2 I feel like they're good enough. They should be good enough to compete and win win a Super Bowl for whatever reason just keeps not happening to them.

Speaker 2 I think that reason has a lot to do with Patrick Mahomes, obviously.

Speaker 2 How much, was there any conversation in Buffalo after the season was over about making any drastic changes at all?

Speaker 4 Not that I'm aware of. I mean, to me, they're entering the offseason.
They're close. They're close.
And again, they had the chance this year. You got the Chiefs in Buffalo.

Speaker 4 That's what makes it so hard for them

Speaker 4 that the opportunity was right there for them. It was right there for all these teams.
Like, Joe Burrow's out. You know, the Chiefs were down for a little while.
The Bills were at home.

Speaker 4 And none of these teams took advantage of it, much to your

Speaker 1 home. You know, it's true.
It's, I mean, Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 Like, you're not going to get that many chances. Correct.

Speaker 1 The window is there, especially going into the season when we talked about Aaron Rodgers and Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow and all these guys.

Speaker 1 And it's like, you get three of those guys have massive injuries, and it's still Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 I think if you're the Bills, honestly, you just got to keep knocking on the door and hope that one of those years, like just ask all the people that played against Michael Jordan what it was like every year that they didn't get to win the NBA championship, whether it was who played in the East that Patrick University.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Knicks

Speaker 4 comes right to mind. Yeah.
No, I mean,

Speaker 1 it's the, we've said it, Patrick Mahomes, the part where he's become the new Patriots is that he is going to steal Super Bowls from some all-time quarterbacks that they're Phillip Rivers or like even thinking Peyton Manning probably would have had more than just two.

Speaker 1 And all these guys who are great, great quarterbacks and

Speaker 1 their resume just isn't the same because they had Tom Brady in their era.

Speaker 4 He's going to change legacies for other quarterbacks and other franchises because he's going to be that good and win that many Super Bowls. He already has.

Speaker 4 And it's not like he's going away.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 He's just going to keep doing that kind of thing. He's so good.

Speaker 2 He's stealing joy from all these other cities, too.

Speaker 2 imagine how much better life in buffalo would be right now if patrick mahomes was not imagine how much better life would be in baltimore and chicago right now yeah yeah well

Speaker 1 they don't have to do that they didn't draft already put that to bed so here's another team that's got the the joy stealing from stolen from them the san francisco 49ers where are they at a crossroads or is it because They have been so good for this five-year stretch where, you know,

Speaker 1 going to two Super Bowls, another NFC championship, or another two NFC championship games. They've been right on the cusp.

Speaker 1 What is it, like, is it, I don't think it's Brock Purdy, but is there a question?

Speaker 2 Is it

Speaker 4 they have their guardian, Spencer Burford, in the overtime, and he goes the wrong way on the block.

Speaker 1 Goes the wrong way.

Speaker 1 Now he should have called the timeout, and he also had Kittle not on the field.

Speaker 4 On that play where Spencer Burford went the wrong way, Brandon Ayuk was the primary option, and the guy covering Brandon Ayuk fell. He fell.
Brandon Ayuk is wide open for a touchdown.

Speaker 4 Jawan Jennings is open for a touchdown. Brock Purdy doesn't have the time because the other lineman came in.
And that's how close, that's the margin. Like, if he just goes.
He's

Speaker 4 extra point.

Speaker 4 And I flew out here to Indy with this guy. I was saying to some of your coworkers here, I sat next to this guy named Simon who works for

Speaker 4 my

Speaker 4 drawing a blank on the name of the company, Track. What's the company that tracks the golf balls?

Speaker 2 Trackman?

Speaker 4 Trackman? Trackman.

Speaker 2 Golf Zone.

Speaker 4 No, it's not golf zone. It's Trackman.

Speaker 2 Golf Zone's better, though. Trackman?

Speaker 4 This guy works for Trackman.

Speaker 4 He tracks NFL kicks. We were talking about that.
And he went into the ⁇ there are certain teams that employ him. And he scouts kicks and what they're doing.

Speaker 1 He has a horrible existence.

Speaker 4 Well, hold on.

Speaker 1 Just watching kicks over and over.

Speaker 4 He tried out for the Dallas Cowboys a couple of years ago. He kicked in college, small college.
Simon, I forget his last name.

Speaker 4 Anyway, he calls up the dad on Jake Moody, and he goes through like all his extra points. And he's like, ideally, you want to be above 10 feet on all your extra points.

Speaker 4 And he showed a few of them where he was at like 9-7.

Speaker 4 Most of them were above 12 feet. And these teams hire this guy as a consultant to say to the kicker, hey, you need a little bit more.

Speaker 4 trajectory on your extra point, which you ordinarily would think, well, what's the value in that?

Speaker 1 Right, right. Well, the value in it may have been a world title.
Right, right. Yep.
Right.

Speaker 4 So, son, this is the best sales pitch I could ever give to Simon, who I met on my plane flying out here from track, man. But he had all the dad on Jake Moore.

Speaker 4 I said, do the 49ers, weren't they one of the teams you work for? He said, no.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 brutal.

Speaker 2 He was a little shaky all season. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 4 But, you know, people forget he did make two over 50. He did.

Speaker 1 He had some big kicks in college for Michigan.

Speaker 4 He was a great kicker, and they took him high. And he was inconsistent this year, but he was great in the Super Bowl other than.

Speaker 2 He set the record. He held the all-time record for long field goal for about like 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also noticed you haven't apologized for Michigan cheating.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, I have not, and I will not.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. I like that.
I respect that. Are you a little upset that Jim Harbaugh is gone?

Speaker 1 Because it does feel like that was an incredible run that he's been on, beating Ohio State three years in a row, national title. Maybe you're going back to the past.

Speaker 4 Well, let me say this. I'm a big Sharon Moore fan.
Okay. I love that guy.
I think he's going to be great. And I don't view it like that.

Speaker 4 Like, to me, I look at like next man up, Sharon Moore deserves this. He's worked for this.
The program, I think Jim has left it in a spot where I think, you know.

Speaker 1 You get a ton of sanctions, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, exactly. I think they'll be still very strong.
And Jim wanted to go to the NFL. He just wanted to go to the NFL.
He was going to go at some point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he went at the perfect time.

Speaker 4 And there are more and more college coaches that seem to want to go to the NFL. Like, he was going.
I had this argument with my friends. I'm like, they're like, he's going to stay.
And

Speaker 4 in fact, I remember that day, it's very funny. I'm on a group text chain with my college buddies.
And one of my college buddies texts me that his son just saw something that Jim Harbaugh is debating a

Speaker 4 new extension from Michigan.

Speaker 4 And I was waiting at that moment for the call that. it was done with the Charters.
And my heart's like pounding as I'm waiting for this call. And I

Speaker 4 stop.

Speaker 1 And like, wait,

Speaker 4 maybe he could stop. Yeah.
Just stop, okay? He's not going back. I know.

Speaker 4 And I said, stay tuned. And within another hour, the deal got done with the Chargers.
He was in LA. He wasn't going back to Ann Arbor.
And obviously, the son of one of my college roommates,

Speaker 4 I would hope that they would turn to me more than they would turn to him for information.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 Did you cry when Michigan beat Ohio State when Terron Moore cried?

Speaker 1 No. That was Penn State.
That was Penn State. Penn State was crying.
He might have cried in Ohio State.

Speaker 4 And that was the first game of his suspension. Of his suspension.

Speaker 2 Yeah, did you cry when you were like, they did it? They did it from Connecticut.

Speaker 4 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that.

Speaker 4 You know, listen, I'm good with all that, all the emotion.

Speaker 4 I don't love the F-word on national TV. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 You don't fuck on national TV. Don't you look crude? Wait, what about, okay, talk about crying.

Speaker 1 Honestly, do any of these

Speaker 1 teams scouting here in the Combine for Indy, do they care that Caleb Williams cried? Because I think they might.

Speaker 1 Hold on.

Speaker 4 Let's say there are 31 teams that do care. I know.

Speaker 1 Does it matter? Yeah, no, no, I know, I know, I know. But, like, do you think that that actually matters at all in terms of like NFL teams? No.
Okay. I think it does.
I think it a little bit.

Speaker 4 By the way, if he's your quarter, do you care?

Speaker 1 No, I don't care. I'm like, I'll start crying whenever he wants me to.
I'll cry on command.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, I still think there's a little bit, there's at least one guy in every room who's like, hey, he cried.

Speaker 1 What's up with that? Okay.

Speaker 4 You know, he's in touch with his feelings. Yeah.
And he's going to be the Bears quarterback in all probability.

Speaker 1 I love that he cried.

Speaker 2 And then every other team cares. Every other team will be like, that guy cried.
He's a loser after they don't get him. Yeah.
That's how it works. Exactly.

Speaker 2 It becomes a negative if you don't get the guy.

Speaker 4 You know, the funny thing is, maybe it becomes like one of those things during the draft process that comes out and it's like some team driving the narrative. Like, yeah, Caleb Williams, crybaby.

Speaker 4 Oh, we're in.

Speaker 1 We're in full Caleb Williams bashing mode because that's all that's left. Like, there's nothing

Speaker 1 when you get to a point in the combine draft cycle where it's like, here's what the number one pick is,

Speaker 1 it's just going to all be negative.

Speaker 4 I had Drake May on my podcast last week. I said to him, the next two months, get ready for no reason

Speaker 4 for your stock to go up one day and your stock to go down the next. Take you apart.

Speaker 4 And it'll come out. Drake May, you know, can't throw on the run or with that, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 The S2 cognition test. Yeah.

Speaker 4 There you go. I mean,

Speaker 2 are those guys still in business?

Speaker 2 They got to be, right?

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 the thing is, is that there are a lot of teams that would turn to that company and they would lean on that information. It would kind of supplement all the other work.
That's what it would do.

Speaker 4 But there's teams that I think put some credence into it.

Speaker 2 Interesting.

Speaker 4 And,

Speaker 1 woo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Could it have ever been more wrong on one guy ever?

Speaker 2 Counterpoint, Bryce Young ordered the scallops when we went to dinner with

Speaker 2 the owner of the Panthers, with Tepper. So that's why Tepper liked him.
Bryce Young kind of outweighs him.

Speaker 4 Bryce Young tested off the charts. Off the charts.
Off the charts. And, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 4 that's hard. If you're the Panthers and you made that trade

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 1 it's bad. And it's bad.

Speaker 4 I like to tease the owner.

Speaker 4 I do, too. His wife.
was a big C.J. Stroud person.

Speaker 1 Oh, is she really?

Speaker 4 She likes C.J. Stroud.

Speaker 2 She's a big Ernest and Julio Julio Gallo fan, too.

Speaker 1 So I got a couple more questions because Stephen Che has some questions too. Real quick, you mentioned your podcast, Know It From Adam.
No, that would change the name a long time ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was the worst podcast name of all time. I agree.
Actually, it's something you and Che have in common. Che once had a show called.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on. Is it still called?

Speaker 1 He had a show called Surf and Turf that was a football podcast. Yeah? Surf and turf.

Speaker 4 Surf and turf for a podcast?

Speaker 1 For a football podcast.

Speaker 2 Why was it called Surf and Turf?

Speaker 1 There's no reason.

Speaker 2 Talk on the mic. You want a mic with it.

Speaker 4 We changed it to the Adam Schefter podcast. Okay, that makes more sense.

Speaker 1 Surf and turf. Who's on it with the podcast?

Speaker 4 Plain and simple.

Speaker 2 Who's on the Adam Schefter podcast?

Speaker 4 You guys. I need to get you guys on there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, no, I'm a know-it-from-Adam guy.

Speaker 1 We were on that show. That show rocked.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that show rocked.

Speaker 1 My other question is, do you, Stephen brought this up on the way down, do you, I think we've talked about this, but do you miss driving at all? Because you're not allowed to drive. I drive.
I drive.

Speaker 1 I thought ESPN banned you from driving. It took away your license.

Speaker 4 No, I i drive you know you know who would like to ban me from driving my wife and my daughter because i'll be in the car i'll get a text and you you want to see arguments you want to see somebody get pissed off

Speaker 1 when you stop that but you do have a driver for the most part because of the you got the news no i know

Speaker 4 i i when i would be going to bristol okay i'd have the driver to go to bristol But I don't go to Bristol all that much during the season. It's Sunday morning.

Speaker 4 So, no, I drive. Okay.

Speaker 1 I drive

Speaker 1 myself everywhere. Although,

Speaker 4 at certain times of the year, it's probably best off to have somebody drive you. And I look forward to my daughter

Speaker 4 getting her license. So,

Speaker 4 she could be the driver. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I got one thing about the commanders, real quick, then we'll let Che ask some questions.

Speaker 2 First of all, I would like for you to get on board with a rebrand of that coach's graphic that you always like to put out.

Speaker 4 To include Raheem Morris, the future, right? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 So, what we need to do with that, we need to include Raheem Morris on it.

Speaker 2 We need to include Dan Quinn on it and rebrand it as look at all these ex-Falcons head coaches or Falcons coaches that are now head coaches somewhere else in the league.

Speaker 2 That way it's not the 2013 Redskins anymore. Can we do that?

Speaker 1 Done.

Speaker 2 It's the Falcons coaching staff that's now being spread out.

Speaker 4 That graphic of all those, it's by now, it's like, it's almost cliched, right? Yes. Did you know that? It feels personal.
You know, well, you know, it's like Matthew Stafford and

Speaker 2 Clay Crenshaw went to the same high school.

Speaker 4 We know the coaches by now. We know.
We've heard it time and time again.

Speaker 2 Just when that comes across your desk, make sure that those are Falcons coaches that are now elsewhere in the league, not Redskins coaches.

Speaker 4 So Kyle Shanahan, Dan Quinn,

Speaker 4 Raheem Marsh back in Atlanta. Yeah.
LaFlore.

Speaker 1 Or Mike McDaniel. Yeah, you're right.
Okay, we'll rebrand it.

Speaker 4 Thank you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 And then my other question, what are the commanders going to do at number two?

Speaker 4 They go quarterback. The question is, do they do Jaden Daniels or Drake May?

Speaker 4 New people.

Speaker 4 Don't know what they're thinking yet. I need a little bit of time before I give you that answer.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I don't mean to ride the fence on you, but these guys haven't had their pro days yet. They haven't had their 30 visits yet.
They haven't taken the S.

Speaker 1 S2.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I put a lot of stock in that one.

Speaker 1 S2 testing.

Speaker 2 I think the Texans leaked the S2 thing, but the Panthers wouldn't draft Scroud.

Speaker 4 You know, the interesting thing is,

Speaker 4 what if the Houston Texans had the number one overall pick?

Speaker 4 What would they have done?

Speaker 2 They would get a shitload of picks for it.

Speaker 1 No, they would have gotten C.J. Stroud.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Oh, you mean last year?

Speaker 2 Last year.

Speaker 4 They had the number one pick, and they had their choice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it worked out for a while. Bryce Young, Lovey Smith winning that last game with Davis Mills going to two.

Speaker 1 It works out for a reason.

Speaker 4 Everybody was all over Lovey Smith. I know.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 4 And it was the greatest thing that he ever could have done for the Texans organization. He set him up.
They won the game. They fell back in the draft and they wound up getting CJ.
That's right.

Speaker 4 You never know.

Speaker 1 It's true. Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Terms apply.

Speaker 1 Robot question is going to be given to Stephen Shea. So Stephen Shea is a shifter.
I think he's your number one fan. I think he's your number one fan.

Speaker 1 Che, would you like to ask some questions? Absolutely, yes.

Speaker 1 So, it's very cool to get all these like nuggets of things that

Speaker 1 you have more intel about the NFL than probably any living person, especially like behind-the-scenes stuff. So, this is a question or you're just sucking them off.

Speaker 4 Well, I'm praising Godwin,

Speaker 1 Jay Glazer.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 what is

Speaker 1 maybe

Speaker 1 a piece of news that never came to light that would be the ultimate butterfly effect moment for Des Bryantape. Butterfly effect moment.
Des Bryant tape.

Speaker 1 Like, if this one small thing had happened, like that, you know, through Brandon Ayuk, the NFL landscape would be totally different right now.

Speaker 4 If the Texans had,

Speaker 4 that's a perfect example, right?

Speaker 4 If the Texans had lost that game and gotten the number one pick in that draft, if that had happened,

Speaker 4 I think they might have taken Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I don't know if they would have traded the pick, which means Chicago wouldn't have Caleb Williams, which means they wouldn't be shopping Justin Fields this year. So

Speaker 4 there are a whole host of them. I got more for you.

Speaker 4 Here's a great one that pertains to the Super Bowl this year that

Speaker 4 we talked about a little bit on Sunday Countdown, but I didn't deliver it the right way.

Speaker 1 Seems like a lot of that's going around with you, Schefter. Seems like like old Schefter would have delivered it the right way.

Speaker 4 The draft where the 49ers in 2017 had the second overall pick initially, Patrick Mahomes was in that draft.

Speaker 1 They didn't even

Speaker 4 do any work on him.

Speaker 4 They didn't do any work on him because they thought the following offseason, Kirk Cousins was leaving Washington.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 4 Hold on, hold on. This gets better and better.
So Kirk Cousins is leaving Washington. They thought that he would want to be there.

Speaker 1 They would want him there.

Speaker 4 And it's a layup. So there's no reason to do any real work on the quarterbacks in the 2017 draft.

Speaker 4 So why do you need to work on Patrick Mahomes with Deshaun Watson when you know you're going to get Kirk Cousins?

Speaker 4 Well, what happens is New England calls up San Francisco that Halloween. It's like, hey, we got to move on from Jimmy Garoppolo.
Just give us a two. Really? Well, they do that.

Speaker 4 So that blows up the Kirk Cousins plan.

Speaker 4 But back to that draft in 2017, the only quarterback that they did extensive work on, that they wound up trading up for, in the third round, they moved up to take C.J. Bethard.

Speaker 4 And when C.J. Bethard left after four years and signed with Jacksonville, the 49ers got a compensatory seventh-round draft pick.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 And with that compensatory seventh-round draft pick that they got from the draft in which they bypassed Patrick Mahomes,

Speaker 4 they took Brock Purdy.

Speaker 1 That is better than Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 That's such a beautiful story. That is a great story.

Speaker 1 That's a great answer.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Another question I have, just because you are in such the, you have to be on your P's and Q's, because you word all your own tweets, right? Yeah. You do do.
Wow. How do you feel about that?

Speaker 1 That's super impressive.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, I also, every word that comes out of my mouth, I say it. By the way, speaking of which,

Speaker 1 what happened with the Chiefs versus Commanders in the Super Bowl? Well, yeah.

Speaker 2 I thought for a second, Adam, this was fake news over there.

Speaker 1 That was, you're losing a step. Yep.

Speaker 4 Well, you know what? I knew that I'd be making my annual appearance here.

Speaker 1 I wanted to get PFT scripts up again.

Speaker 4 I figured, you know what?

Speaker 4 It would overshadow

Speaker 4 the news. of him signing his contract.
I was giving PFT cover that week to have people mock me to deflect the attention that he should have gotten for his new contract being signed, Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 I appreciate that, Adam.

Speaker 2 For a second, I did think that the Commanders were in the Super Bowl for like half a second, and it made me realize that there's a big market out there.

Speaker 2 If somebody just wants to create like an alternate reality NFL like magazine and have Photoshops of the Commanders in the Super Bowl or like whatever shitty team you root for, people would read that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 You know what happened that night? I was trying to help you out. And I also happened to be dealing at that time with my daughter and

Speaker 4 trying to get her situated for Super Bowl Week and the stuff she was doing for Nickelodeon. And it was a lot going on.
You just say Vegas.

Speaker 1 All right, we're taking Stephen Chase's question time. Go ahead.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 But we had to get

Speaker 1 you're probably the guy that the most people have Twitter notifications for. So I like to, I want to peel back the onion a little bit.
Who does Shefty have? Oh, Twitter notifications on for.

Speaker 4 I got Woge.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I got Field Yates.

Speaker 4 I got Jeffty. I'm very supportive of my team.
Yep.

Speaker 1 So, wait, did you take off the notifications, Diana Rossini, when she left the SPN?

Speaker 4 We love Diana.

Speaker 1 You didn't answer the question.

Speaker 4 We love Diana. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
I like that. That's Schefter's way on.
You're out of the family now. No, no, no.

Speaker 4 We had a chain going. You know,

Speaker 4 it's actually pretty funny. We had a chain going, a text chain, you know, with certain people at ESPN, Jeff Darlington, Field Yates, myself, a couple of our bosses, producers.
Diana

Speaker 4 was brought into that chain

Speaker 4 last Super Bowl. And I was like,

Speaker 4 she was the first woman to join the chain. She broke the chain gang.
And then when she left, we had to start a new chain.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's brutal.

Speaker 2 Like, right in and out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Turned her back on you real fast.

Speaker 1 All right, so who else on notifications?

Speaker 1 That's about it. It's about it.
Yes. Okay.
Another question, Jay? Good question.

Speaker 1 I'll end on this one: is that you talked about, I think it was last Super Bowl, how you went out with Diana and Dan Orlowski and had a bunch of mercuries and had like a fun day.

Speaker 1 I want to know what is a

Speaker 1 walk me through a very perfect fun

Speaker 1 chefie Saturday. Because all we see is, you know, new breaks.
This is the stalker stuff. Very fun.
And please give us addresses, too, of where you'll be.

Speaker 1 What a normal, chefty Saturday looks like.

Speaker 4 Wow. Like, where do I even go with that?

Speaker 1 So you wake up. Yeah.
What do you eat for breakfast?

Speaker 4 I've had the same breakfast every day since COVID began.

Speaker 1 What was it? What is it?

Speaker 2 Did you lose your taste buds or something?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, I used to go out to this smoothie shop, which is out of business, and then I would go to Starbucks and get the same kind of, and when you couldn't leave your house for a year,

Speaker 4 I wound up bringing yogurt, blueberries, and some granola. Have it every single day.
That's a good breakfast.

Speaker 1 That's a good breakfast.

Speaker 1 All right, so you start with that.

Speaker 4 It's a good Saturday?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 4 a lot of it is tied into uh your family being happy making sure that they're taken care of because if they're happy then everybody's happy they're not happy

Speaker 4 right big cat yep nobody's happy

Speaker 4 so we start there but if it's going to be good for me selfishly then it's probably going to be a productive day of work where you're working on some things that you feel pretty good about.

Speaker 4 You know that they'll be there for you in the morning or whatever it is on a Sunday show.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 also, I would say,

Speaker 1 oh, Coach Quinn. Coach Quinn.
Hit his bed. Oh, Coach Quinn.
Congratulations. Yeah.
Left hand up.

Speaker 4 And then I would also say some kind of fantasy success. Like my NBA fantasy team this year stinks, but in other years, it's been good.
And I love when I'm rolling there. And,

Speaker 4 you know, honestly, playing DraftKings.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Love that.
Great plug. Yes.
All right. Well, Shefty, thank you as always.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the head coach of the commanders walks in. Yeah, yeah.
I get booted out, right? And it is the draft, by the way,

Speaker 1 of

Speaker 4 Big Cat, PFT, and Hank.

Speaker 2 You guys control this draft.

Speaker 4 We do, we do.

Speaker 1 We control the draft. We control the draft.

Speaker 1 One, two, three.

Speaker 4 That's right.

Speaker 1 But, Chefty, this is one of our favorite yearly traditions. So thank you as always.
You're the best. And thank you for the Christmas gift.
Yes, I appreciate it. It was here.
The blanket was awesome.

Speaker 2 I thought the S stood for shefter that you sent me a blanket with your initial on it.

Speaker 1 I saw that bullshit tweet.

Speaker 1 I didn't know. I was like, wait a second.

Speaker 2 Did you just put a Schefter blanket in the middle?

Speaker 1 No, we're very happy to be on the Schefter Christmas list.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 4 Thank you for you guys. I appreciate it.
As I said to you before, and as I'll say to you again, nobody ever stops me and says,

Speaker 4 I heard the Adam Schefter podcast and really enjoyed it. But I hear often, often, which is a testament to you guys.
Love y'all. Pardon my team.

Speaker 1 Bring back Noah from the bottom. I know once a year people listen to it more than my own podcast.
All right, we're going to get Che on the Christmas list. You got it.
All right. Yeah, yeah.
Go get it.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 That just made his life.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got Firefest of the week.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 1 happy you're out of the St. Elmo's bathroom.
Yeah, that was Firefest.

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't. It wasn't going to be.
That wasn't me, Fire Fest. Yeah, you guys bullied me into eating the shrimp scampy sauce or whatever.
Shrimp scampscampcash scampy sauce is called cocktail sauce.

Speaker 1 Shrimp cocktail sauce.

Speaker 1 Hank got up from dinner. We had a nice boyfriend.
It was hot as fuck.

Speaker 1 It was me, PFT, Hank, Memes, Max, and Stephen Shea.

Speaker 1 And when we're paying the bill, Hank stood up. He kind of like grabbed my shoulder, and I could feel the emergency in his body like pulsing through me.
And he he was like, I got to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 I'll meet you guys back at the hotel. And I'm pretty sure you were, like, we sat and hung out for another 15, 20 minutes.
And I'm pretty sure you were still in the bathroom. He was.

Speaker 1 I didn't. So I...
Because we got a text like 30 minutes later being like, I'm still in the bathroom. No,

Speaker 1 I left my phone at the hotel because I didn't bring a charger and PFT pulled a veteran move that. I don't know if we want to, you know, reveal it on the podcast.
I actually don't think you should.

Speaker 2 No, I think we should.

Speaker 1 I want to spread this to the people because this was good because we were in the lobby and we were both asking the front desk. We're like, is there a place to buy chargers?

Speaker 1 Or I asked, I was like, is there a place to buy a charger on here? She's like, not really. You got to go to a gas station down the street.
It was cold. I didn't have a jacket.
I was like, fuck.

Speaker 1 PFT was behind me.

Speaker 2 I go up to the front desk and if they're cool with you, you can make this move work. And so I went up as cool as I could.
And I was like, I know you guys don't have any charges here.

Speaker 2 You don't have any in the lost and found that somebody just recently left behind, right?

Speaker 2 and the guy looked at me like this guy knows because hotels have that's the number one thing that gets left behind yeah is a phone charger usually i'd say it works for me like 50 of the time depending on what your rapport is like with the person at the front desk and the guy's like wait right here

Speaker 1 and they came back with a charger for hank and then hank hank's jaw was on the floor i'm surprised that you didn't know about this move already no it was impressive i'm excited to use it again so i also told hank that i use that move all the time for toothbrushes and for a second he was like what the fuck

Speaker 1 uh but my phone was dead we were going to dinner soon so i just left my phone because i had to get the charger back to pfd after dinner so i just left my phone charging during dinner so when i went to the bathroom i didn't have my phone that's a nightmare what'd you do there was a stall there was the stall was full it was an emergency i was like i don't have much time here

Speaker 1 there was one one stall bathroom in St. Elmos, which I thought was crazier.
Like in this one section, I had to go to another section. There was two stalls.
Those were both occupied.

Speaker 1 It was getting, I was considering having to sprint back to the hotel. didn't waited it out, went to the bathroom.
But this whole process was like 20 minutes. And

Speaker 1 we'd already paid the bill and stuff. You guys were going to party.
So I was like, they're probably back at the hotel. I didn't have my phone.
So I was like, I'll just walk back to the hotel.

Speaker 1 And then I texted you guys. You guys are like, we're still here.
Okay.

Speaker 2 That's a funny move. Yeah.
But yeah, how's your butthole doing?

Speaker 1 It's good. I blame the shrimp sauce.
Shrimp scampy. So wait, is that your fire fest? My fire fest was, it is combine bars or combine related.

Speaker 1 But it's also the, it's, PFT said this, so I'm not going to take credit for it, but

Speaker 1 it's the start of the, it was, it's, it will be the start of my doncumentary. Oh.
There's some bad film out there. Three-cone drill.
The athlete's in you, though, somewhere. It is

Speaker 1 deep.

Speaker 1 Real deep. Real deep.

Speaker 1 Big cat's commentary was accurate, but also very mean. He said,

Speaker 1 Hank looks like someone who's going to maybe do this fast, but he's going to look really bad doing it.

Speaker 1 And then I took one step and you go, yep.

Speaker 1 What? I mean, I at least said that there was a chance it was going to be fast. It was fast.
It was one of the faster times.

Speaker 2 For any of us that were bloggers, we're podcasters, we're not, we don't train in like fast Twitch agility drills, the three-cone drill is impossible to look cool doing.

Speaker 1 No, Max looked cool. He looked like a sumo wrestler.
He was like, he was like straight.

Speaker 1 Max's whole like vibe when he's doing athletic stuff is like, if you just had a baby learn how to play these sports overnight and it's just like there's something about him I'll just walk.

Speaker 1 Well, he runs on his tippy toes. Yeah, right.
And he's like body's upright and he's got the little, he's got the little man bun. It's just Max looks good.

Speaker 1 Running on the balls of your feet is what you're supposed to do. Yeah, I know.
It's just very funny watching something like that.

Speaker 2 Did you have a good three-cone drill?

Speaker 1 That was what was middle of the pack. That was what looked awesome.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I did see Hank's three-cone drill. It looked bad.

Speaker 1 You should tie your shoes next time. Yeah, no, it was bad.

Speaker 1 No one was wrong.

Speaker 1 Means posted on Instagram, I got cooked. And rightfully so.
Again, started the documentary.

Speaker 1 Like, that's the tape that I'll hang up on my wall and watch it every day because

Speaker 1 the training starts. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're going to hang up a tape of a digital video on your wall? Yeah, a GIF.

Speaker 1 I'm going to print out a GIF frame by frame. It's good.

Speaker 2 Just in the comments. A flip book.

Speaker 1 Just made a flipbook.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your Fire Fest.

Speaker 2 My Fire Fest of the week is I tried to save the environment and I ended up fucking myself. Yes.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I have an electric car. Lib.
Very lib of me. But it's great in the city.
I never have to stop for gas. I cut down on my dip a lot like Blake Bortles.

Speaker 2 But I like my car.

Speaker 2 However, I took it for the first road trip this week. I drove to Indy.
And upon leaving, it gives you like a calculation of how far you have left in your battery life to get to Indy.

Speaker 2 So I charged it overnight, got it up to 100%.

Speaker 2 I left in the morning. It told me I would have about 15% battery left when I arrived in Indianapolis.
And then there's a charging station right here at Lucas Oil.

Speaker 2 So I was just going to hit that up and then drive back.

Speaker 2 So as I start my drive, I'd say about 30 minutes in my drive, I look down at the estimated battery remaining calculator that we have, and it says now 12%. I'm like, interesting.

Speaker 2 And then slowly but surely, every single mile that I drive, that percentage starts to dip, dip, dip until now I'm down at like 5%, 4%, 3%, 2%. So I text the group.

Speaker 2 I'm like, hey, developing situation here.

Speaker 2 My car might not make it to Indianapolis, and I might need to get a ride from somebody else to take me to the last leg. So I go on my way, and it gets down now to zero.
So I'm like, okay, I'm screwed.

Speaker 2 I got to find a charging.

Speaker 1 So do you have extra apps open?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 I don't think that does it. It's not like a phone battery.
It's your car.

Speaker 1 It definitely does it. Yeah.
Give the ACL.

Speaker 2 Okay, so God's honest truth. Hank, I'm joking about what you just said, but when it started to get down beneath 5%, I turned the volume on my radio down.
I was like, this might do it. Save it.

Speaker 2 I don't need to be blasting Mike Greenberg right now. It's just a soft greenie would work.

Speaker 2 And so I had to find a charging station on the way, which added about, I thought it was going to take about 15, it added about 30 minutes to my trip.

Speaker 2 So we get to the Combine, Schefters here, and I was like five minutes late getting in. I was out of breath because I had to sprint from down the street.
Also, I parked at the wrong Hyatt by mistake.

Speaker 2 And I had to run.

Speaker 1 We've had a lot of problems with the Hyatts here, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so the fact that there are two Hyatts within like two blocks of each other, stupid, dumbest thing ever.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I tried to save the environment. Now I'm going full, I'm going Taylor Swift mode.
It's like, get, use as much energy as possible. Get a diesel truck.
I'm going to fly places.

Speaker 2 I will fly a private jet from Chicago to Indy instead of driving my earth-saving electric car. So that's what I get for trying to save the environment for our children and our children's children.

Speaker 2 Fuck those kids. Yeah.
Because I'm going to be driving diesel now.

Speaker 1 Love that. Any car should be able to go like three hours.
Easily. Yeah, it told me four.

Speaker 2 It told me I could get, I think it was like estimated 290 miles on this trip. Ended up being like 220, 210 miles, something around that.

Speaker 2 So I got to maybe just get the El Camino now. Maybe that's my full-time driver.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You just get a solar.

Speaker 2 What about when the sun's not out?

Speaker 2 It's the same problem.

Speaker 2 That's a worse problem. Same problem.

Speaker 1 Same problem.

Speaker 1 Okay, My Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 I had one originally was the war on ice cream that everyone is. We talked about it on Wednesday, but we've got new people going after ice cream.
This was Jesse Waters on his show.

Speaker 1 And I just, I want to just say that, like, they're doing this on purpose. They're trying to take ice cream from us.
So we need to just fight. But here's what he said.

Speaker 1 Should not be licking ice cream in public.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on.

Speaker 1 A grown man, especially the president, should not be licking ice cream in public.

Speaker 1 What the fuck is that?

Speaker 2 Why are you, as a man, eating a treat?

Speaker 1 What does Meek Mill think about this? Crazy. He probably would.
Well, no, I'm not going to say.

Speaker 1 He's more of a snow.

Speaker 1 So that was my original Fire Fest. But then as we sat down here today,

Speaker 1 my new Fire Fest came, and it was a text from Billy Football.

Speaker 1 With two pictures of a green van. Some people might guess what that van is, Vanny Woodhead.
Two pictures of a ghost. And he said, do you guys want Vanny in the Chicago parking lot? Now,

Speaker 1 and this is all unfolded on the show. This is all unfolding on the show.
Three years ago. Probably three years ago.

Speaker 1 For people who don't know,

Speaker 1 I purchased Vanny Woodhead in my name for, what was it, like $600 we paid for it. I had the insurance in my name.
We used Vanny Woodhead. Vanny Woodhead broke down.

Speaker 1 Vanny Woodhead sat in a parking lot for a couple years. And finally, I was like,

Speaker 1 I need to stop paying insurance because it's just a waste of money for a car that we never, for a van that we never drive. So I told Billy, like,

Speaker 1 turn in the plates. Let's get it off the road, chop shop.
He's like, no problem.

Speaker 1 I've taken care of it. And you paid, you're like, this is your job for the week.

Speaker 1 I'll give you X amount. You have to get it done by this date.
And now,

Speaker 1 sitting here, February 29th, 2024,

Speaker 1 Billy has texted us being like, oh, yeah, about that van that I got rid rid of. I still have it.
Do you want it? Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 This is going to cause, I'm probably going to lose my license because he probably has it. Like, I don't know.
And I said, I replied to him because I was like, do I technically still own this van?

Speaker 1 And he replied, technically, it doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 It's the best Billy football reply of all time.

Speaker 2 Also, in the pictures that he sent over, when I first saw these, the thought that came to my head was, these are pictures that somebody takes when they're selling a car. Yeah.

Speaker 2 There's two different angles of it. It's in a parking lot,

Speaker 2 in a space all by itself. I think Billy was trying to sell this car, so technically it might exist.
I think the car might exist.

Speaker 2 He might not have found a buyer for it, and now he's hitting us up and be like, hey, do you guys want this in the Chicago parking lot?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I mean, we're going to, the good news is, I think we're going to get it after we thought it was dead.

Speaker 1 This is like a, this is is like a we're living like in a movie when the when the main character dies and they they're like oh he actually had a twin brother yeah and he comes back that's how i feel right now i'm like wait what i we we did the whole episode where vanny died but four times we are going to get vanny to chicago we have we're in a different financial situation than we were six years ago so i'm gonna probably put some money into this van pimp it out figure out how to make it technically exist again and now we'll have vanny back in our lives like this would have been like this trip to Indy would have been a perfect let's just hop in Vanny yeah so we're I Vanny's back so the best way I would think to make the car exist again you would have to just like register as an auto manufacturer but who owns it and be like I built this

Speaker 2 yeah this is mine who owns it that's the part that I got to figure out nobody owns it so when you when you ask Billy like how get it for the office what can we do Billy says uh we could put it on a flatbed to Chicago.

Speaker 2 I can look into some stuff. Yeah.
So Billy's honestly, Billy was supposed to be looking into some stuff on Vanny Woodhead like six years ago.

Speaker 1 It's just crazy because this van was out of my life so long ago. We should call Billy.
And it just all of a sudden. We should call Billy.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 Do you want to? I don't. So I don't.

Speaker 1 I'll call him on.

Speaker 1 When you got rid of your insurance and the plates.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I'm pretty sure I signed the car over to Billy.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm curious. It's like, did it just?

Speaker 2 Oh, man. He was definitely trying to sell this car.

Speaker 1 billy

Speaker 1 hey we're live on on pmt little podcast uh

Speaker 1 what

Speaker 1 who owns vanny woodhead

Speaker 3 uh technically it's destroyed

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 3 legally it's chopped up but i kind of i couldn't i didn't have the heart to chop it up so i've just been keeping it that

Speaker 1 you didn't have the heart or you didn't have

Speaker 1 like you just didn't want to do it

Speaker 3 No, I was like, I can't, like, I was every time, it was an excuse I used to not follow through with chopping it up.

Speaker 1 Okay, so who, so, but who, did you tell someone you chopped it up? Yeah, you told us you chopped it up, but who, who, so who owns it? No one?

Speaker 3 No one. It's technically like scrap.
Okay,

Speaker 1 it just hasn't been scrapped.

Speaker 4 All right, so we're...

Speaker 1 All right, I guess we're going to get... I guess we've got to figure out a way to get it to Chicago.

Speaker 1 But how do we become back into ownership?

Speaker 1 Like if it's technically scrapped, how do we, yeah, how do we get, how do we

Speaker 1 like bring it back to life?

Speaker 3 Well, it's just basically like trash. So like you can legally like bring trash to Chicago.
Like it's, it's, if I hook it up to my truck.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 2 What if we want to drive it?

Speaker 1 That part we understand. We're going to get it to Chicago.

Speaker 1 We're going to actually, I'm actually going to probably put money into this and like pimp it out because it'd be cool to have it, but then how do you make it so it's not dead anymore?

Speaker 3 Oh, well, then you just gotta get it street legal and then get it inspected.

Speaker 2 It's easy, big cat. You just have to get it street legal.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. I got nothing out of this conversation, but I appreciate it.
Wait, wait, Billy, is it

Speaker 2 like a titleless vehicle?

Speaker 3 You'll be able to get another license plate on it.

Speaker 1 Oh, won't they look into its past and they're going to be like, wasn't this car scrapped?

Speaker 1 Okay, well, PFT has a question.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Billy, judging from the pictures that you sent over, were you at any time trying to sell this car?

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 I couldn't sell it. It's trash.

Speaker 1 But it's not.

Speaker 3 I know, I know, but technically, like, I couldn't, like, sell it to anybody.

Speaker 1 Got it. But then how are we going to get that's what's my way sell it?

Speaker 2 The pictures seemed like they were.

Speaker 1 It doesn't exist, people like

Speaker 1 if we go to the DMV, they're going to look into the past history of this car and be like, this car was scrap.

Speaker 1 It didn't exist. Therefore.

Speaker 1 this is really the movie where the twin brother came. Yeah,

Speaker 1 TV show, yeah.

Speaker 2 This is Schrödinger's van. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Billy, um, I'll stay tuned.
I'll have uh, my people reach out to your people, and we'll get we'll get Vanny to Chicago.

Speaker 3 Watch Last Chance Uganda on the Wanton Dogs.

Speaker 1 All right, good plug. All right, see you, Billy.

Speaker 1 All right, yeah, that didn't solve anything. We're going to have so many

Speaker 1 car legal experts. Well, I'll take their advice.
give me advice because i'm going to

Speaker 1 first step is i'm going to get to chicago second step if anyone in chicago works at auto body shop or like exhibit i don't know where you're at these days

Speaker 1 like i will i will pay real money i would like to get like i'm sure we need a new motor new brakes new everything

Speaker 1 um but it would be cool if we had a van that worked yeah put some shag carpeting in there make it real nice Okay, so we're going to get a new van.

Speaker 1 I heard you like podcasts inside.

Speaker 1 Podcasts inside your van. Yeah, I'm going to take it to an audio shop.
They're like, this is the dumbest thing ever.

Speaker 1 Like, why would you put real money into this van?

Speaker 2 No, just like, you can, we can make Vanny Woodhead into like an actual, very cool thing. I agree.
I think it's going to have to be taken down to the studs. There's probably some rust issues.

Speaker 2 God knows what Billy's been doing in Vanny Woodhead. That's, we maybe should just burn it, actually, now that I think about it.

Speaker 1 It might have been his apartment for a while.

Speaker 2 There might be, like, several reptiles still living in there that all have to do with that.

Speaker 1 Remember, there was a hole in the, in the floor?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's part of the charm. I peed through that hole one time.

Speaker 2 We were driving down the highway, and we used to pee through that hole. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't have to pull over. But yeah, so Vanny Woodhead.
Austin Connor lived in it for like three days.

Speaker 1 Every time I see him on Mac Veech, I'm always like.

Speaker 1 He was an intern. He lived in Vanny Woodhead.

Speaker 1 It's actually a perfect thing for our eight-year anniversary today to have Vanny Woodhead come back to life.

Speaker 2 It's a perfect gift. I like that.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, Vanny Woodhead's back. We'll figure out a way to fix it up.
Like I said, if anyone knows how we can make it

Speaker 1 real again, and then if anyone has an auto body shop or like pimps out cars in the Chicago area, we're ready. So we could do a whole video series of bringing it back to life in a fucking sick

Speaker 1 engine. We need everything new.
Yeah, it's going to just be the shell of it. But we're doing it.

Speaker 2 So update, Billy just sent a photo over from the person that now has custody of Vanny Woodhead.

Speaker 2 Hi, Will. It's someone.
Is this van garage? Can I get rid of it?

Speaker 2 I think that meant to say, is this van garbage?

Speaker 1 Oh, and that happened today. That's why Billy, so Billy just gave this problem to someone else, and that person was like, hey, man, this problem is kind of annoying.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are we doing with this?

Speaker 2 Can I throw away this van?

Speaker 1 Well, Bill, yeah, he's like, can I park it here for a couple of days? And it's been two years. Yeah.
Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Last Firefest, Stephen Shea.

Speaker 1 He's been traveling with us. There's nothing better.

Speaker 1 Stephen Shea's whole life is a make-a-wish, but bringing him to Combine Week is the best because he just walks around being like, oh, there's Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 1 Oh, did you think Daniel Jeremiah took a shit in this bathroom?

Speaker 1 Should I sniff the seat?

Speaker 1 He also met a guy named Joe Bucks fan last night who has a blog, and it was like...

Speaker 1 It was like dueling countries. It was like a country that were about to go to war.

Speaker 1 He wasn't so warm with him. No, I mean,

Speaker 1 he's on your turf. I didn't know there were two guys who care this much about the Bucs.
There's a lot. There's several Bucks blogs.

Speaker 2 So one of the most concerning parts of the evening last night was

Speaker 2 Che introduced me to a bunch of people from the Bucs front office that he's friends with.

Speaker 2 And they actually love Stephen Che. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 It makes me want to sell stock on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Well, how much they like.
and trust Stephen Che.

Speaker 1 It's because if you, if you know Stephen. Who else would be talking about the Bucs?

Speaker 1 Well, and also, if you know Stephen Che, if you don't have to deal with Stephen Che every day, he can come across as like a normal person that you would like.

Speaker 1 But if we like sent him to the Bucs for like two weeks,

Speaker 1 they would send him back.

Speaker 1 They'd actually take a picture of him and be like, hey, we chopped it for parts. Do you want him?

Speaker 2 Too much Che.

Speaker 1 I became,

Speaker 1 we kind of looked back on this finally, but I became a little bit endearing to some of the people there because the first time I ever met all of them, really, I met the GM Jason Light.

Speaker 1 He brought me on the sideline.

Speaker 1 He was like, oh, why don't you meet the director of Pro Personnel, John Spytech?

Speaker 1 So I just turned to him. I was just like, hey, Steve, and I go,

Speaker 1 dude, what's going on with the right guard? We got to figure this out.

Speaker 1 And he just turns to me, he goes, you just get right to the point. These are just real scouts, NFL scouts.
Yeah, no, he's a super high-level person. But yeah, I voiced my concerns to them.

Speaker 1 They know Jason Light is going to be shit about a right tackle, who I was very nervous about this year.

Speaker 1 And he had a great year and uh what about the bucks treating families poorly and also the bugs i mean if that was family and friends it would be an a plus because i got the red carpet rolled out

Speaker 1 every time but yeah if it's just biological families i i can't speak for that because i'm not i don't qualify but yeah uh yeah they're a first-class organization they actually made a statement about it the that doesn't mean first class impressive yes we have bugs that that probably is that probably is a florida thing they have some like gross bugs down there they have some serious bad bug issues in Florida.

Speaker 1 Not specifically in the stadium, but just all around. Okay, so what's your Fire Fest?

Speaker 1 Because I explained Firefest to you, and if anyone knows Stephen Cha, he was like, this is going to be tough for me because nothing really gets him down ever. But you have to have something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it does have to be something like recent because I can tell an older story. No, it's like this past week.
It's like a way to recap the week and send us off in the weekend.

Speaker 2 You can pretend that what happened to you a couple of weeks ago just happened to you.

Speaker 1 It's like a pretty well-known story from the AC with my van.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 1 My minivan. What'd you do? You didn't have insurance for it?

Speaker 1 Oh, you didn't pay it?

Speaker 1 So I thought

Speaker 1 and this is like kind of a, yeah. Oh, this is, oh, this is when you,

Speaker 1 I don't have to do this one because it's like,

Speaker 1 yeah. But if we're doing a more recent thing.
No, but just say that one because it's so ridiculous and we'll just say it very quickly. Sure.
So I bought

Speaker 1 a minivan. And when you buy it, you can pay for a couple, or sorry, leased it.

Speaker 1 You can pay for a couple months up front. so i did that so i paid three months up front but then you can set up recurring auto auto payments automatic payments auto pay

Speaker 1 and so i

Speaker 1 did

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 and i got an email confirming i did that but the email electronic mail yeah the email's title was confirming you have set up an auto payment and so i took that as all right sweet done don't have to worry about this ever again but they were saying automobile payment

Speaker 1 I did not realize. So

Speaker 1 that's intentional, by the way. And he got repossessed.
Yeah. Four or four months later, my van was repossessed from my driveway.

Speaker 1 And we called the police we thought it was stolen. And they ran the plates in there.
Like, oh, yeah, this was towed. Yeah, you didn't pay.

Speaker 2 I wish it was on one of those reality shows for the repo guys.

Speaker 2 Those are the best.

Speaker 1 All true, by the way.

Speaker 2 All 100% true. Not staged.

Speaker 1 All right. So what happened bad this week? Nothing.
You can say nothing. I mean, Donald and Mitchell's worst pick ever.
Yeah. I mean, double up.

Speaker 1 If you're good, good, you're going to lose 40% of your bets.

Speaker 1 I can't get this band off. So these are, we got these bands and these parties.

Speaker 1 Come on. I'm with them.
Yeah, you're in this boat, too. Yeah.
So they're these, and I've never gotten a bracelet like this where it's like this thing Titan. Music festival? Titan.

Speaker 1 That was stupid name. No, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I don't know. I've never had a strong enough like this, but I cannot rip it.
You have to use scissors. You can never get it.

Speaker 1 No, I can't. With your hands? Yeah.
Did you bite it? I just slowly went like that. Oh, I mean, mine's tight enough where it's not going to fit over the edge of mine.
I got no passbacks.

Speaker 1 But, I mean, you can attest, this is tough. I was trying to do this.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is brutal. This is one of those I had.
Oh, we got scissors right there. Okay.
All right. So

Speaker 1 it was going to save the day.

Speaker 2 I had one of these on. I forget where we were.
We were about to do an interview, and I tried to rip it off with my hand. You almost broke your hand.

Speaker 2 And I, like, I think that's what injured my UCL the first time. I remember

Speaker 1 your wrist popped. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You could hear it on the tape.

Speaker 1 You're stuck in this boat, too, right? Did you try and take that off?

Speaker 2 No, I'm not freaking out because I just knew I'd cut it off eventually. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I mean, nothing.

Speaker 1 I had a good Fire Fest, Steven.

Speaker 2 I've attended events before.

Speaker 1 Stephen has a bracelet that he can't get off. Fire Fest of the Week.

Speaker 1 Great show, boys. Indy, Combine, always fun.
One night in Indy. One night in Indy.
We got a couple interviews coming next week that we taped that will be great. Dan Quinn and Diana Rossini.

Speaker 1 Let's kick it to ourselves in studio for the lottery ball. Okay, numbers time sending you into the weekend.
I'll I'll do eight.

Speaker 1 I'll do

Speaker 1 88.

Speaker 1 I'll do

Speaker 1 87.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 How does that hurt me? I'll do 77. Oh,

Speaker 1 I'll change it into 20.

Speaker 1 I'm changing to 20. I'm sick of 77.
I'll change it to 20. Going three.
Oh, this is a lot of pressure, Max. 99, Poke.

Speaker 1 This is a lot of pressure, Max.

Speaker 1 67.

Speaker 1 Man, if that had been 20,

Speaker 1 what a moment.

Speaker 2 Love you, yes.

Speaker 1 Can it's in the building?

Speaker 1 Talking away.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm about to say. I'd say it anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's a moment

Speaker 1 to find you. Shine away.

Speaker 1 Though I've been coming for for your love of King

Speaker 1 Shine

Speaker 1 No, I've been coming for your love of king

Speaker 1 Needless to say

Speaker 1 I'm all the same

Speaker 1 It's about me

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 little

Speaker 1 Things that say

Speaker 1 easy to love.

Speaker 1 Just a way that worries away.

Speaker 1 You are the things I've got to remember.

Speaker 1 Need a shy and away.

Speaker 1 coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Even shy and oil.

Speaker 1 Love you coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Take on me. Take

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take on me.