Adam Schefter, Combine Week Live From Indy, 8 Year Anniversary Of The First PMT + Vanny Woodhead Is Somehow Back

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He gives us some nuggets about the league. We talk about his breaking news of Punxsutawney Phil.
Maybe we get an answer to the Dez tape. Stephen Shea gets a couple questions in because he's a Shefty super fan.
We're at the Combine. We're going to talk a little Combine.
We got the report card for the NFLPA. Hank's number two Patriot of all time.
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Today is Fri-yay, March 1st. This is March.
We've arrived, boys. That's wild.
So we're recording this on Leap Day, which really threw off my entire calendar. Happy birthday to us, by the way.
Eight years we've been doing this podcast. Our second birthday today.
That kind of blows my mind. Yeah.
Eight years? Uh-huh. High school and yeah whoa for some people yeah the uh yeah some people take longer the um it's it's crazy i was looking back because i couldn't remember the exact timeline the first episode debuted i think on march 3rd or 4th but we had recorded it on the leap day in pft's house in austin that's right in my kitchen chris jones's dick flopped out at the combine it was one of those things where it was meant to be yeah to have that story break the morning that we record our first episode where a man's penis broke through his shorts while he ran the 40-yard dash at the combine it felt like we were always destined to do this show and if you put it into perspective if you had told us eight years ago that the man's penis who flopped out at the combine was going to be a three-time Super Bowl champion, we probably would have said, okay.
Yeah, I would have said, okay, he is a football player. Yeah, he is going to play football.
He's a good football player, so maybe he'll get on a good team and they'll win the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's a pretty big woe.
And then he would be a free agent. Eight years from that to that day, his free agency looms.
Just crazy. That first episode was also recorded at 7 a.m.
in the morning. Did we? No, that was the second episode.
No, we tried. We were like, we're going to record.
No, no, no. But the first episode we recorded in PFT's house in like the afternoon.
Did we record some of it in the beginning? In the morning? Possibly. Oh, we recorded the majority of it.
Possibly. I think.
Yeah, we did the segments at a normal time. Right, we'll do the current event stuff.
Yeah, people forget that the first week of Pardon My Take was a morning show, which was the worst idea ever because not only are we not morning people, even though actually this is, we should just make it every time we do a year anniversary. We have to record it in the morning.
It's the worst idea. It's the morning right now.
But we're not morning people. And then also we found out very quickly that it was an unsustainable practice because we would wake up, record at eight in the morning.
And then I would just text Hank every five minutes for the next five hours being like, is the podcast ready? Yeah. Is it up? As stories were like breaking, we're like, wait, should we add to this? Should we add to this? So the problem with doing, well, the easy thing about doing a morning show is that you have the topics that are already laid out for you because the storylines are already out there.
Yeah, the games already happen. Then you get to react to like the storylines to the storylines.
We're down in the trenches right after the games are over games are over we're creating it we're like we're farming that like pure uncut cocaine of sports takes right after the games and then somebody else turns into crack the next morning that's the easy part yeah we're down there doing the hard work the and i mean credit to us uh for realizing it was a terrible idea almost immediately that and the reggaetongaeton horn. And changing on the fly and becoming a night podcast.

Do you want to bring back a segment for today's show?

We could do four good minutes.

We could do hurt or injured Kyle Filipowski.

He is injured.

Severe injury.

Neither.

Jay Billis told me that he was sore.

That's an injury.

I've thought back about the Jay Billis.

I want to give... I know the AWLs didn't love that interview because we don't usually do contentious interviews.
And I give all the credit in the world for Jay Billis for just coming on because he probably knew it was going to go that way. I need you guys to promise me that you'll stand up for me and with me next time someone says I use the wrong word because I'm not as dumb as he was making me feel in that moment when he said i used disingenuous incorrectly that's literally what i did yeah i told him i was i was like when you said that you need to like do a screeching halt because he made me feel really dumb well that's the duke in him yeah it's kind of like your default setting if you go to duke it's like well this person doesn't have a duke education so clearly he's not as smart as I am.
But in that moment, I did tell him. I was like, no, I think he did use the word correctly because Jay is smart enough to understand there's a difference between Kansas storming the court and Butler storming the court, right? There's a difference between those two things.
And also, yes, Kansas' football program, the students have stormed the field many times. Forgot to say that.
There's two moments this week i i'm like costanza walking away being like damn i should have thought of that it's the kansas storms the field in football and hank rooted for tom brady at the box when he was trying to bash patrick kane that's true those are the two those are the two moments i was like damn it you got to be smarter than that dan it's very true yeah hank was the biggest the biggest well yeah people were like that in my life dude how do you not bring up hank in the

bucks and i was like fuck but he was a bucks fan and then he was a cowboys fan yeah that's true he

did turn his back on tom brady that's true but eight years i love you guys this has been the i

mean we not to get sentimental but it's obviously changed our life so significantly to the point

where it's like i can't imagine if this didn't happen we've had this conversation pft i think

Thank you. not to get sentimental but it's obviously changed our life so significantly to the point where it's like i can't imagine if this didn't happen we've had this conversation pft i think when we were at the arizona bowl driving back just the two of us and we're like could you imagine if like this didn't happen like this is our lives this is our life's work yeah this is uh it is it's our life's work it's our legacy yeah how about that we're we? This podcast is our legacy.
We will be in the first line of the obituary. Unless one of us dies in a crazy way, then that would probably be the first line.
Or unless somebody commits multiple bank robberies and has a lawyer that goes on TV to use football analogies to describe your guilty plea. Chiefsaholics lawyer rocks.
That dude is awesome. I have a problem, though.
I really wish he didn't say his government name zander xavier xavier xavier something or other and i was like that kind of ruins that he's chiefsaholic but yeah we had chiefsaholic lawyer show up again and he uh started by saying chiefsaholic uh the government has been blitzing and xavier's pocket was collapsing but today xavier stepped into the pressure. And then he continued to say, we know if he stumbled and he fell, he didn't let his knee touch the ground.
That's when you know you got a good lawyer. But he did take a plea, which I think the very definition of a plea is like kneeling.
Yeah, kneeling the ball out. Kneeling the ball out.
So, yeah. In a loss.
He did. In a loss.
In a loss. You're down 40 and you're like, I't want to get anyone injured let's just kneel it out yeah the the lawyer making all the football analogies is awesome the one thing i would tweak about the lawyer because every time he does a press conference he loves hammering home the fact that his client is a football fan yeah which is cool i wish we know too yeah just so you know we we do know he is chiefs of hall that's the reason that we're talking about him.
Yeah, we wouldn't be talking about him otherwise. I would like if the lawyer was a little bit more of a football guy.
It still seems from time to time like when he's talking, it's something that I think that Chiefsaholic writes these statements and then has the lawyer deliver them. I would prefer it if the lawyer was like a big football guy, like making these analogies on his own.
But once he runs out of the ones that Xavier gives to him,

then he just goes back into lawyer speech as his default.

Agreed.

But I like the theater of the lawyer being like,

okay, Chief Zaholic, you guys know he's a football fan.

Here's how I'm going to describe him accepting a plea deal on multiple bank robberies to go to prison for years

is by just giving you a football game.

And it's smart because, like you said, no one cares about this if it was just a regular person i we you know that football fans are tuning in to anytime this lawyer gets in front of a microphone so he has dumbed it down to where like okay all right so he was getting a blitz all right he's stepping up in the pressure i see it okay yeah didn't get a need in touch all right yeah't touch the ground. All right.
Yeah, you know what? He's free. You know, in Saudi Arabia for stealing, they would take a hand off.
I would like to see him expand his repertoire a little bit and dive a little bit deeper. But I think if you were to ask Chief Saholic, would you trade how many years in prison? A lot.
A lot? Let's say a lot. Let's say five years in prison.
Five to a lot. Would you trade five years in prison for a dynasty the answer for chiefs of hulk is a resounding yes yes and i hope that they let him wear his wolf costume in jail yeah that would be awesome that would be that although i feel like there's some kinks that would probably be attracted to that like there's gotta be some furries in jail you think they're furries in prison like we've been waiting all our life for a furry to show up.
Yeah. He just gets humped all the time.
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Speaking of the Chiefs, we had the NFLPA report card come out, which this rocks. So this is the second year in a row that they've done this.
The commanders are last. It feels personal.
It does feel personal, but you have a new owner who is also sitting in on every quarterback interview this week. Can we take it one site at a time, please.
Yeah, Josh Harris is sitting in on every quarterback interview at Combine Week. Just directly behind.
I will address all the accusations one at a time, but it's not fair to put both the report card and Harris on me at the same time. You're on the Tepper spectrum.
It feels personal, the NFLPA report card. No, no, no.
Let's talk about Josh Harris going to these interviews. No, we're taking these one at a time.
We'll go back to it because I actually wasn't going to talk about the commanders. An F- is not a great.
It is. It does not exist.
49 or below. It's an F.
It's an F. That's what an F is.
An F- is not a real actual thing that people get. To have treatment of families, to get an F- in treatment of families, seems like the very worst thing that you can say about somebody like okay uh they've got a great strength coach but they fucking hate children yeah they're bad parents yeah his family i i actually wasn't going to talk about the commanders much for this because it's almost like the sun will rise the commanders will finish last in this poll it wasn't anything new so i do want to go back to josh harris real quick He's sitting in all these interviews.
I think here's my spin zone. I think he's evaluating the people that he hired to evaluate.
He's evaluating the evaluators. Yes, he's sitting there.
He's watching Adam and Dan Quinn conduct the interviews with the quarterbacks to see what kind of questions they're asking as part of his ongoing evaluation process of his own team so totally normal very normal very normal behavior but from josh harris not a control freak very normal very normal i'm fine with it i think it's good what at what point do you think he will uh insert himself into the game plan meetings never will that be thursdays or fridays never never it's not gonna happen he's gonna do the walkthroughs he's like hey you know what let? Let me just be under center for this walkthrough. If you're Dan Quinn and the other coaches in these meetings, how do you not ask him for his opinion? And then do you have to take it? You have to take it.
That's the whole point. You can't have him there.
What did you think, Josh? And then how do you not listen to what he says? Yeah, he's going to be like, what do you think, Josh? He's like, I really like Drake May. And the guys in the room be like yeah yeah that's what i was gonna say drake may i think that this is such a big decision for the future of the franchise that they want everybody in the room to be involved and on the same page going forward i think it's like this is a decision that could possibly change the direction in a much maybe we'll get f pluses in 10 years if we draft the right quarterback what does he know what does josh harris know he knows people he's a people person he's probably a connector i would love it if josh harris was actually in the room asking them basketball questions you know what though pft now that i'm thinking about it josh harris might just be in the room practicing his handshake yeah because he had that bad handshake so maybe he's just getting reps in it's the combine for him too he's like, I've got to learn how to shake hands again.
Joe Buck had the bad handshake. Well, Josh Harris had the bad handshake.
I think it's completely normal. Robert Kraft was intimately involved in everything going on behind the scenes with the quarterbacks in New England, and his decision was like, I'm going to let Bill coach the team, but he was involved in all those conversations.
I think that Josh Harris is, any one of us, if you owned an NFL team, you would want to be in the room, right? Right, but that analogy doesn't really work because Robert Kraft would have, if he was the one making the decisions, he would have had Bledsoe start. And Josh Harris is now going to have whoever he wants to have start.
But it's the same thing where just because your owner's in the room doesn't mean he mean he's the one making the decision. He's going to make some decisions.
Everything's going to be fine. Everything's going to be wonderful.
I choose to not dwell on this. I have good news because I'm delusional.
You know what? I have good news for you, PFT. Okay.
So back to the NFLPA report card. This reporter, Nick Cordy, K-O-R-T-E.
I just want to shout him out because he did good work with this on Twitter,

Nick Cordy, he did a list of all the grades from the NFLPA

and then categorized them with teams that the owner purchased the team

and teams that the owner inherited the team.

And I think it's nine out of the top ten, Packers not included they they're weird and they pretend that everyone owns a piece of the team nine out of the top 10 not excluding the packers uh were teams that the owner purchased the team and then all the bad grades essentially were teams where the owners inherited the team basically fail sons and daughters uh who are driving whatever

they're they inherited into the ground which usually happens in all these situations so that's good for you it is a positive thing uh the dolphins got first by a mile in the dolphins and vikings one and two easy yeah the dolphins report card was a minus a a a a a a A-A+, A-A.

No notes.

Pretty good.

The strength and conditioning line always stands out to me. I think last year the Ravens got like an F in strength and conditioning.
The commanders are one good grade being an A for a strength and conditioning coach. Seemed to me at first like, okay, at least we have a great strength program.
And then I thought about it more. I don't think I'd want my players to give my strength and conditioning coach an A.
Because don't you want that guy to be the hardest person in the world on you? You kind of want to hate your strength coach a little bit, right? Yeah. Maybe you don't want an F, but getting like a C plus or a B, you want that guy to push you to be super, super uncomfortable all the time yeah that's true if your strength coach is welcoming you with uh with like cookies and cupcakes every morning for for your morning lift um and you're like super happy with them like your best friend probably not that effective of a strength coach yeah you don't want to be well liked okay i think that might be more also the facilities too although that was in there as well the uh the other funny things that came out was the chiefs are winning super bowls while everyone hates everyone except andy reed they basically got like d's c's d's and f's and everything but andy reed who got an a plus including the owner got an f minus because uh the story goes that the chiefs wanted a new locker room because their locker room was very outdated.
They won the Super Bowl last year. The players came back.
They got a new locker room. And by that, I mean they went from stools to chairs with backs to them.
That was the big upgrade. It's huge.
That, though, is crazy to me. Like if you're Clark Hunt, the amount of money that Patrick Mahomes is pumping into your franchise right now, you should be wanting to spend every dollar on making it a fun place to be.
It should just be whatever Patrick Mahomes wants. Correct.
It's crazy. Like, I don't understand any of these.
The report card is actually good, though, because they had a note. Like, remember the Jaguars had rats last year? They got a new facility.
They don't have rats anymore. So it's actually changing things.
Even the Bengals, one of the cheapest owners in all of sports, they were complaining because they had to pay for their food. Now he was like, hey, guess what? I'm a billionaire.
I'm going to help you guys out. I'm going to give you three food, three free meals on Wednesdays.
Just Wednesdays. Yeah, it's nice.
Yeah, just Wednesdays. But that's a step in the right direction.
That's such a hilarious compromise to make. That's essentially what we do at Barstool Sports.
It's like once a week, you get a free meal. I'll say this.
Wednesday's not a bad day, though. Because Monday, I think most guys, they usually give them off.
Tuesday, they got to go in. Wednesday, it's hump day.
It's a shitty day. It's the no man's land of the week.
So three free meals. That's a perfect day to do it.
I wouldn't want to do it on Friday. Friday's Friday.
Friday's Friday. And you want to kind of have your free play at lunch on Friday.
Now, the Eagles, they gave their coach an A. Treatment of families, C.
Team travel, C. Now, with team travel, I think it's impossible to get a high grade in team travel.
Everyone hates travel. The Patriots have two planes, and they got a D.
They're probably old. Old planes.
Well, they're also team travel is... Who else had two planes? The Bills.
The Buc bucks had a line where they force uh their players to pay 1700 i think it was 1750 if they want to stay alone when they travel yeah that was one of the options that that's crazy per travel yeah team per week yeah teams 1700 yeah that seems like a lot. It does seem like somebody's pocketing some money off that.
Yeah, that week? Yeah. Team's got $1,700? Yeah.
That seems like a lot.

It does.

Bad franchise.

It seems like somebody's pocketing some money off that.

Yeah, that definitely, they're upcharging the hotel room.

It's one guy on the team that's like, yeah, you got to pay me $1,700 for that.

Steven Che is here, so he's going to, I asked him to do a Fyre Fest.

Why don't you save your thoughts?

You can respond to all these when we get to Fyre Fest.

But the other funny wrinkles in this, the Broncos had a bunch of cars stolen from them at training camp that was kind of cool cars yeah yeah um they what was it they're uh there were multiple cars stolen from the parking lot of the mandated team hotel during training camp i love that i love that someone's doing fast and furious with the broncos cars. It's probably just future.
Yeah. Just run up there with his crew.
Yeah. And then the other one that was, because the timing of this, I think they did it in like the summer and like early fall.
So most of the coaches got like A's and B's. Arthur Smith got a C plus.
Ron Rivera got a C. The only one who got a D was Josh McDaniels.
so it's good to know that even in a blind poll everyone fucking hates josh mcdaniels i love that a lot yeah it's actually josh mcdaniels grade actually like validates this entire poll where they're like yeah they're giving honest answers josh mcdaniels is a fucking douchebag he got a d so i noticed a lot of really bad grades when it comes to the locker room like across the board players are not happy with their locker but my theory is that college locker rooms have gotten so out of control good that is a step back when you go to the nfl like college coaches should be like yeah you can go pro and make millions of dollars but you don't get the barber chair yeah the chiefs don't have a slide yeah there's no water so there's no waterfall nil that was the only thing they had yeah it's true like we could we can't spend money on players we'll just get a new lock i remember i went into like maybe it was like four or five years ago i went to clemson's training facility and they had a literal slide uh that we weren't allowed to use but i i i basically bullied brandon walker to use it he got yelled at right away, which is a very funny visual, just a big old man going down a slide, and then a training staff member being like, hey, don't use that slide. But they told me, they were like, yeah, we just opened this like two years ago, and it's already outdated.
So you're right. The college locker rooms and the training facilities are insane.
It's an arms race. It's like every year before NIL, every single year, teams would put all their expendable money into upgrading the locker room.
It's like players are like, can we please have $1,000 a month to buy food? They're like, guess what? We got a new waterfall. Yep.
Putt-putt. Yeah, putt-putt.
Let's go. There was a batting cage.
But yeah, I love this NFLPA poll. It's great just because it's just a bunch of uh anonymous snitching and you if you're an owner you have to dread this and i also i still will never understand and maybe this is just how i'm wired but like if i had billions of dollars i would spend a good portion of that money to make sure that the assets that i have on my team are very well taken care of yeah maybe that's easier said than done but you patrick mohams would get whatever he well he got it back to his chair yeah that's pretty nice that's huge uh the patriots got some shitty grades too hank i know they got bad grades with coaching staff bad grades with the ownership too ownership travel but that's where it's like it's hard for me to really believe the travel thing when they have two planes yeah so that kind of makes the whole list what's your thing with two planes he just wants two planes you have two planes how can travel be bad if you have your literal own plane like well they're probably old planes yeah they might be what does that even mean like they could be planes from 20 years ago i want a plane where i'm able to lay down they could be a boeing 737 max yeah did you think about that no i think they're big ass nice planes i've seen them okay um all right anything else uh from this i mean it's yeah it's great that it comes out right now the the leading sentence of the commander's locker room issue uh was multiple sewage leaks contributed to their f minus i would say that that probably does it one sewage leak is an f that's i'll give you the f-minus on the locker room because of the multiple sewage leaks all the other f-minuses i think are personal yeah the bucks also had bugs in their showers yikes that's florida though yeah that is florida there also was the everyone made the same joke at the same time which it's a a funny joke.
But I think the Chargers, there was a line about the Chargers charging extra for daycare. And everyone was like, well, if you have Phil Rivers and Antonio Cromartie, you need to do this.
Yeah. So congrats to everyone for making a very funny joke.
It's a good joke. Yeah, it's a good joke.
All right. What else we got going on? We you see the college football playoff is already uh ready to change again i saw that yeah rules i like it i don't like it because i i like the the first iteration that they came out with now it's starting to get too confusing they're starting to jeffty lowify the college football playoffs what are they changing it they're going to change it to 14 they're going to give the big 10 and the SEC three automatic qualifiers.
So the top three in each of those conferences will automatically ban. The ACC and the Big 12 will get two automatic qualifiers, and then there'll be one automatic qualifier from the group of five.
I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
I like the old way. So here's the only thing that I like about it because I was talking.
We are in Indy, so we get to meet a bunch of people. I met Ross Dellinger.
He's a Yahoo Sports college football reporter. Really good guy.
We're going to have him on the show this fall because he knows a shitload about college football. He was saying, because I was like, why would they play conference championship? Like, why would they have conference championships if the top three go like there's no reason to play that extra game and he it was a hypothesis because there's nothing set in stone he said that it will eventually get to a point where it's the fourth and the third will play for that third spot which that kind of rocks so if you're a fourth place team in the big 10 you play in the

conference championship game or whatever they're going to call it you play in an extra game to like

it's like a play-in to the the playoffs i get that but also we're setting up these rules for

maybe 10 20 years down the line these rules are still going to exist and the college football

landscape changes every like two to three years they'll find it it's like who knows what the

conferences will eventually look like then and giving three automatic qualifier i don't know

Thank you. and the college football landscape changes every two to three years.
They'll find it. So it's like who knows what the conferences will eventually look like then and giving three automatic qualifiers.
I don't know. I like the way it was set up.
It was easier to understand for dummies like me. I agree, but they're going to do something that I think the initial plan was like the Big Ten and the SEC were like we get four teams automatic, so they're playing a little strong arm with them.
I still think it's going to be no different than cable to streaming back to cable where we're bundling all the streaming now. They're going to get to a point where they just start making like regional divisions.
And it's like, well, OK, so Oregon, Washington, USC and UCLA are in a division. Why don't we just call it the pack four and then we'll get there and then we'll be happy.
Yeah. So this new proposal, it's not ratified yet, right? No, it wouldn't happen until at least 2026.
So 24 and 25 will have the current college football setup. Okay.
What is this year? This year is the current college football setup. With 12? Okay.
Yeah, yeah. 24, 25 will have the 12 teams, the four buys.
They're automatic championship winners uh so it still matters for the championship game and then uh the other at large and then this is just something they've been they're going to do it because essentially what they're doing is they're going to the big 10 and the sec are going to strong arm everyone else because they are the the the number one and two asset in college football and they're, we need our teams guaranteed to be in because they have all the power. All protein bars generally taste the same, but not one bars.
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Nobody won't even offer me Coke because I'm that heavy. Does that mean fat? Or is it? No, it's just like he's such a non-Coke guy.
Like you wouldn't even think to be like, hey, you want some of this? Oh, because I assume that was just a fat thing where it's like you don't offer a fat guy Coke because they're not doing it. They might die.
They're fat. It might kill them.
If they were if they did coke they would be skinnier yeah it's like why waste your time with this guy what does yeah i'm from philly have to do with that like i'm from philly so no one offers me coke i don't think that's how it works and then yeah he he said no man or what would ever approach me about gay activity in the whole place don't get flipped woke up seeing this on every vlog like they know i'm coming because there's a there's a court filing yeah someone sued diddy and there's been obviously a lot of allegations with diddy the last i don't know three or four months along these lines and someone sued him one of his former workers or colleagues and in the lawsuit it straight up said like he knew like he was there when diddy had sex relations with redacted and redacted. And then I don't know how court filings work, and it doesn't really make sense for them to redact the names because at the bottom of the page, it had an answer key that said, answer, it said, no, it said redacted person one is a rapper from Philadelphia who dated Nicki Minaj.
Redacted person two is an R&B singer who just performed the Super Bowl. Redacted number three is a Patriot fan who produces a podcast.
Yeah. No, that wasn't in there.
But clearly Usher and P. Diddy were the – I mean Usher and Meek Mill were the two redacted names, and then everyone has been talking about it, and Meek Mill know got it claiming that they're trying to take him down because he's got a before his albums he was on a label he's got guy friends now he's independent and he's trying to put out music independently and this is the industry trying to take him down they're trying to take him down because he's too straight yeah like he when he has one love to.
One love to the gays, though. He has sex with women twice a day.

Yep.

It could not be any more clear than that.

Ask his favorites.

He's not addicted to it either.

No.

It's a high for him. One love to the gay people, but that juicy pussy, do it for me.

Yeah.

That's such an awesome thing to just type and then hit send on.

Do it for me.

All right.

So that's Hank Hot in the Streets brought back a segment for it. Kyle Filipowski hurt or injured.
What bullshit that was by Dukes. The Dukies.
He was never even close to hurt. Jay Billis would tell you that a soreness is an injury.
It is. It is.
You literally tweeted on Tuesday. Like I'm never doing a comment again.
I said I again. I said I'm contemplating retirement.
Yeah. But I haven't retired.
I'm always contemplating retirement. Yeah.
It's always on my mind. Listen, Sundays in the fall, when we're working until 2 a.m., I get out of bed.
I'm like a running back. It's hard to go down the stairs.
I'm like, should I hang it up? Yeah, blog hang it up yeah yeah bloggers then I get to fall in love with the game again come Thursday we age like presidents four years is like 10 years for us yeah we've been doing this for eight years we've been doing this for two terms when I woke up on on Tuesday morning I was I was embarrassed to say like my legs were very sore from jumping three times yeah I was it was pathetic i thought i was having a heart attack at one point because my chest was so sore and i was like oh no you just benched for the first time in five years that's why you think you're having a heart attack yeah i i also um i went on pittsburgh sports radio tv love those guys went on there this morning and they were they were looking through the headlines of the combine and the way they asked me they're like so i see that barstool sports had a combine and you're the winner of the combine it felt like a big slap in the face to me and also to barstool sports but it ruled because i had like a and also you weren't a proud what you were oh yeah you were yeah i had a proud friend i forgot hank the hater coming at me get your facts right hank i had a proud friend you want athletic fuck, PFT, because a scout came up to me and was like, I saw your guys combine. I was like, what did you think? He's like, I think you guys are in the right profession.
And he's like, I saw the beginning. Did Will end up winning? And I was like, no, PFT won.
Nice. Because of the Wonderlic.
Because of the Wonderlic. And the vertical leap, which was completely real.
There was a... Yeah, you could jump higher than Francis and Mark Titus.
Well, the way that it works with a vertical leap is not how high you can touch Big Cat. It's how high your feet get off the ground.
I know. I still think Titus probably can jump higher.
Tapes say otherwise. I touched rim last year, but I've lost so so much athleticism i just feel in my body in the

last year i don't know what's going on i have no i never had explosive fast twitch muscles i've always had slow twitch muscles but they've gotten slower yeah my fast twitch is very slow i've also gotten to a point where i don't i don't stretch before doing anything because stretching is just more time you could get injured yeah well you can't pull fat right that's facts john daly Is that John Daly?

I think so.

Yeah.

Maybe David Ortiz.

I don't know.

Or what's the local coach uh wiley the guy uh for the browns yeah could have been him yeah wiley you didn't see the troops stretching before they stormed the beach at normandy it's fact um all right i have one other thing before we get to h's list. You might have something else too, PFT.

The Tyree Kill lawsuit. Yeah.
That's something. It is something.
So Tyree Kill, we'll say way better football player than Guy. As good of a guy, he is much, much, much better at playing football.
He's being sued, though, by a woman who maybe broke her leg or hurt her leg. And the reason why this happened, allegedly, is it was a British social media influencer named Sophie Hall who put her son into Tyree Kill's football camp.
But before the football camp started, Tyree Kill invited her and her son over to his house and he was running drills so it goes Hall claims after she made her way to Hill's home he asked her to participate in some football drills during a training session he was having in his backyard Hill allegedly asked her to rush against him in a defensive line versus offensive line one-on-one style workout according to Hall she shoved the super bowl champion backward which caused him to be embarrassed mr hill's attitude changed and became angry hall edges hill then flipped the drill around so he could rush against her and after a couple reps she said he'll charge into her violently and with great force causing her to suffer a right leg injury um this sounds like it's a football drill it sounds like i would would, if I was the... It's a football drill.
What do you... You get hurt in football drills? If I was the Buffalo Bills, or if I was any other team in that division, I would consider signing Sophie to shut Tyreek Hill down.
It says, Unfortunately, after getting humiliated in front of friends and family when he was knocked backwards during a friendly football lesson by his friend Sophie Hall, Tyreek became enraged and forcefully and purposefully shoved Miss Hall, severely fracturing her leg.

But that's also, it was a football drill.

Yeah.

Sounds like she didn't get her feet moving.

Yeah, maybe bad technique on her part.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know.

This is just, I mean, Tyreek Hill getting sued for this is quite something.

Yeah, well, why do you think he invited her to his house? Was he like, I son's a good football player i'd like to give him extra lessons probably right let me uh look her up and see let me see see if she looks like i follow her on instagram um let's see yeah yeah he invited her for football for football reasons for football reasons only Whenever I see, this is probably bad for me to admit, but when I see named in a lawsuit a party who's described first and foremost as being an influencer, that's always a red flag for me. Yeah, I would say so.
Influencer Sophie Hall. She was like a nice woman.
Let me see. I want to see how nice her personality is.
I had it, and then it's loading.

Yeah.

Oh, actually, let me take this back.

So she seems like a nice woman, but she also seems like she could play nose tackle.

Okay.

Yeah.

She's got some curves.

She could play nose tackle.

I'll put it this way.

Bill Belichick would look at drafting her in the first round.

I'm not surprised she was able to blow up the line of scrimmage on Tyree Kills.

She's got a motor.

Yes.

It doesn't quit.

Okay.

Hank.

Yes.

You're number two.

Number two.

Yeah.

You remember just going?

No.

You know who I saw last night, Hank?

Who?

Who I told him.

I was like, hey, Hank's dropping his top 10 Patriots.

I don't know if you're on it.

Vrabel?

Nope.

Think horses.

Welker.

Yeah, Wes Welker.

And he was a little upset.

I mean, it was like we spent a whole weekend.

We did spend a whole weekend together at the British Cup together.

He is a great guy.

He did look jacked.

They were showing him in one of the episodes. He was ripped when he was playing for the Patriots.
No rings, though. I mean, the great, great dude was starstruck when we got to hang out with him.
That was like 2013, early Barstool days. I was geeking out.
Oh, yeah. We spent the whole weekend with Wes Welker, and then in the last second, Hank was like, can I get a picture? I was like, dude, we just hung with him.
But then it was also the worst hang because we went to Breeders' Cup with him, and the next horse race he went to was a Kentucky Derby where he got busted for Molly, and I was like, I must be the biggest loser ever because he was like, he probably brought some Molly to the Breeders' Cup and was like, these guys suck. Yeah.
I'm not going to waste my molly on them maybe you thought you were from philly and knew not to offer you guys drugs yeah but he was he was part of those teams they lost they lost the giants it was it was a it was a down era for the patriots a lot of narratives a lot of people saying you know brady's wash brady and belichick tend to break up the team they only won three super bowls disappointment yada yada yada this player came in changed everything just vibes wise he he you know i think i was 18 or 19 when he when he signed with the team so i was 18 19 year old he was everything rob gronkowski gronk spike freak of nature the most fun player you know non tom brady but just every everything he did was fun his attitude you know i've been lucky to party him and his brothers like they're as fun as advertised no it's robber kask oh because they're his brothers yeah yeah also fun guys fun yeah no but the the whole the whole family is great great people uh. Greatest tight end of all time.

I think he might be the easiest player to root for if you're a fan of that team.

Like Rob Gronkowski, it's impossible to not absolutely love the guy if you're a Patriots fan. And he is what he is.

There's no shtick.

He's putting on an act.

He just loves life.

Chicks, football, beers, spike.

Yeah, that's it.

Yeah, that's it. That's the whole thing.
That's going to be his Hall of Fame speech. Yeah.
He'll definitely try to spike something that will break. The bust.
He'll try to spike his own bust in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Gronk, he was unguardable and also the funnest person in the world.
I would agree with you putting him at number two. I think that's a good choice.
First night, we all hung out together. We were with members of the Gronkowski family.
I've met a lot of them over the years, hung out with a bunch of times. Like I said, they're as fun as advertised.
They live the life that you think they live, which is great. It's fun to see.
He was such a good player. It's grung.
Honorable mention? Honorable mention because I'm still salty that they yada, yada, yada, 2003, 2004. He was only on the team for a short amount of time, but he was an unbelievable running back in 2004, Corey Dillon.
Oh, clock killing Corey Dillon. 1,600 yards.
Dominated. Patriots never really had a running back that was as a superstar running back.
He was kind of like Rainy Moss before Rainy Moss, too, where when they signed him, it was like trouble off the field and he might not be a good fit for the team. They got him for nothing, and then just dominated that season and he was good 2005 uh as well so yeah the era of big running backs yeah that yeah okay good job he wasn't even in the documentary like it's crazy and he was that was you know 21 wins in a row he was the star running back 1600 yards doesn't even get a highlight in there how often do you think wes welker has somebody come up to him and it's like congrats on all those super bowls like they think that he was he was on a super bowl champ probably a lot i mean it's pain he had you know it's tough he had it he had that drop like it it it probably pains him what do you think hurts west welker more when someone says congrats on the super bowls or someone's like hey that catch you made against the falcons was insane.
Yeah, probably that one. Probably that one.
And the clip, the Wally Pip clip is so funny. Belichick, he's like, you know Wally Pip? He's like, just give it to him then.
Yeah. And he did.
Oh, he can have it. Yeah.
Damn. Okay.
And he had it. Do we have anything else before we get to Schefter? I think we're good to go to Schefter.
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And now here's Adam Schefter. Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite interviews of the year.
It is Adam Schefter at the Combine, our yearly check-in with Schefter. First of all, thanks for making this a tradition.
We appreciate it. And my first question is a tough question.
I wouldn't want it any other way than to start like that. Where's the Des tape? No, we'll get to that later.
How the fuck did you get the Punxsutawney Phil breaking news, is there a point where you're like, I've got enough?

Because you did the NBA, you've obviously owned the NFL,

and now you're doing little rats in western Pennsylvania

seeing their shadows.

Like, enough is enough.

You've got to be like, I don't need this beat.

But you got it.

You broke the news.

Well, I appreciate that.

That was probably the biggest story I've had this year, I would say.

Yeah.

Really proud of that one. Stands on its own.
You scooped El Nino. How did that happen? I had some plants there in Pennsylvania that were done and set up well in advance.
They knew the importance of that story to our country. Yes.
They knew. And they knew that if they want that news dispensed on a big platform, they knew where to go with it.
Yeah. And so somebody there was kind enough to keep me in mind, like anybody on the NFL story, shot me the news.
And now we're waiting for spring to get here. And I don't think the message has hit Indianapolis yet.
Yeah, it's pretty cool. Definitely not.
Definitely not. You know that Woj is going to have a guy in Punxsutawney next year.
That's cool. You know, I'm good with that.
Woj, I love Woj. He's all over things.
I love information. I love stories.
I love how much you love information. Do you and Woj ever sit down? Because it's very few people that you can relate to let me say this yeah woge knows me i would say well professionally speaking better than my wife yeah and and it's not close whoa you got i didn't know you guys were an item damn we can understand exactly yeah like he'll call me sometimes like god i'm working on this trade i trade.
I'm waiting for this, waiting for that. Sometimes I can say, do this or do that.
Sometimes I'll just say, hey, you just got to wait now. I know what he's feeling.
I know what he's going through. I've been through the things that he's been through.
He's been through the things I've been through. We go through them at various points of the year.
I love getting a text from woes will be like god i'm waiting on one right now right yeah that feeling that is that the best feeling right by the way like we also talk about the business what it's like yeah talk about you know life at espn talk about you know how long can you do this oh how long can you do this as long as you can do it as long as they'll have you do you feel yourself slowing down at all have you had a moment in the last year where you're like old chef you would have had that no that's not how I feel I still love the information like I was going after the groundhog I was going hard after him and nothing was going to stand in my way your fingers getting slower like no at what age do you hit your prime as an insider that's a great question yeah great question you know i think it just changes i think what happens over time is you care um less about some of the smaller things and you recognize a lot of the noise that's just out there and i don't really care about that noise like the other day when peter king retired he said something i put that on my phone because i thought it was very interesting i broke the news of big cat i thought he would cry you thought he cried yeah really why is that uh well he's he told me that peter king died so but he didn't he didn't die fortunately no but he he basically had enough but he said something he wrote one line in the column and i'm looking for because i i wrote it down you wrote it down that's plagiarism adam you could copy and paste yeah it's it's in my phone i'm just looking for right now hold on one second here get us or something yeah now. High alert.
No. You didn't bring any of your lackeys, although Stephen Shea could be compromised.
He wrote, the media has been conditioned to keep throwing logs in the fire day after day after day when absolutely nothing is happening. I'm thrilled to not contribute to that anymore.
Yeah. No, it's true.
When you have a lull or a dead period, there's the natural inclination to be like,

well, something's got to happen.

I got to report something.

And I don't really care about that.

He talked about he had no interest in the head coach hiring cycle.

I couldn't be more interested.

You're right.

Free agency, couldn't be more interested.

We'll get past the draft, and there'll be throwing camps and conditioning camps and otas that you're not interest level not real high yeah so it's interesting because the last couple years i feel like when you're talking about throwing logs on a fire the discussion has always we're just like let's talk about dak again let's see where where where are we at with that right now is he elite but i feel like that's good? But I feel like... That was a good line.
That's good. But Duralite is what we should call him because we're always having that discussion, but I feel like this season is actually the time where it is interesting to talk about Dak and his contract and what the Cowboys are going to be doing with it.
So I'm going to use this as an opportunity to ask you, is Dak Prescott going to sign an extension this year with the Dallas Cowboys, or is he going to be a I think they have to get something done with him I mean he's got a 59 and a half million dollar cap number they want to get a big deal done with CD land they want to get a big deal done with Micah Parsons they want to upgrade their roster Jerry Jones himself has said they're all in well how can you be all in if your quarterback is taking up that much of the cap? And, by the way, if you don't get it done with him, then after the season, you can't tag him. Right.
So he could just leave. Couldn't Dak also say, like, I don't want to sign an extension? Yeah, he can, but I think he's got too much love and respect for the organization, although there have been some mixed messages coming out of there.
Yeah, from his camp, well from both sides yeah even jerry jones like we're like was that a shot we're only going to go as far as dac takes us yeah well so he didn't take you past the packers in the divisional round like i don't know it was kind of weird to me yeah he said that so in a way i felt like dak was being called out and i don't know how

that's going to impact the talks but to me they have to get something done with him they have to yeah so so you mentioned something there uh the the coaching uh cycle that you're very interested in yeah why did mike vrabel and bill belichick not get jobs well mike vrabel i think would have gotten the chargers job if jim harbaugh had gotten onto the plane to go to atlanta because i think Jim would have had a decent chance to get the Falcons,

which obviously one move domino impacts another and I think Vrabel had a great interview with the Chargers and they really liked him and it just was one of those things it just didn't go his way in this cycle I think the fact that he's out there the fact that is out there, I think it speeds up the coaching firing cycle next season when teams are ordinarily making moves. We get to Thanksgiving usually.
Sometimes there's a move that's made early in the year. One stray firing.
Oh, Carolina fired Frank Reich. But usually teams wait till after Thanksgiving and then they start trickling in.
I think it wouldn't shock me if we started getting stuff like late October, early November, because teams want to go talk to Vrabel. They want to go talk to Belichick.
I mean, Pete Carroll's still out there. He should be in that conversation with the attitude he has.
But Vrabel, I think, came close in Los Angeles. Belichick came close in Atlanta.
Atlanta at one point people thought it was going to happen and I think that there were just different factions and different groups and some people wanted him and then other people who didn't wound up prevailing he doesn't get the Atlanta job there were conversations with Washington at one point it didn't happen Washington was going to go in a different direction. They did talk to him.
So it just didn't happen. And I think when you look at some of the openings, I think these teams weren't looking for those kinds of guys this cycle.
But we'll get seven, eight, nine openings next year again. And I would think with the stature of these guys and their accomplishments, they'll be top of the list and i i think they'll be in play next year okay one more coaching question and it's gonna hurt me did the bears ever even reach out to jim harbaugh i don't believe they did god damn it i don't believe he was in play there and i i think he was chargers falcons i sent him the video too of like the video i made like sometimes you got to go back to move forward of him and bears stuff and what did it do he said that was a great video that's all he said he said that's a very nice video i don't talk about another man's job yeah yeah that hurts okay okay so belichick and rabel you would say if you had to guess right now 100 they get a job i would not i would never say 100 but i like both their chances okay okay so 100 it wasn't because rabel is too big you don't think rabel is too physically intimidating to ask diana about that yeah my idea is that there should be a rooney rule for fat guys where every every offseason owners have to interview at least one fat head coach yeah you know like if rabel is too big i'm too big, I'm surprised that I haven't been under consideration for a head coach.
Yeah, right. I mean, PFT would fit right in.
Dude, I'd be top of the list. Yeah.
You see guys get fired in September for me. Yeah, 5'7", 5'8".
Like, we're ready to take on the world. I'm 5'9".
Take on one of the NFL head coach. If that's the qualification, we can do it.
If we're going to come in guns blazing, I think you got shorter. Because I walked in this room and I was like, oh, I think I'm taller than you.
Maybe I grew. I might have grown over the last year, chapter.
You never know. Listen, I'm at the age where I start shrinking.
Like my dad, when I stand next to him now, I notice like every time he was at eye level and now he's down to my chin. That's going to be me.
This is a really cute combo between the two of you. Listen, we get it.
don't you don't feel our pain no i don't you sit up there in your treetops and you're born on third base act like you hit a triple because you hit the genetic lottery oh man this builds character being shorter men should be over six feet i'll say it and you know what i'm gonna blame my parents right like short parents and it was in a day and age where my parents you know, my mom smoked cigarettes, my dad smoked, like they're smoking, drinking. They stunted you.
Absolutely. You could have been, you could have been a varsity athlete.
I could have been dunking. I could have disqualified myself for any of these NFL coaching openings that I'm now in consideration for.
I got got a question for you about um about mock drafts

because my the mock draft that's another thing that i have no use for so the mock draft industry

is it's become a cottage industry steven che is our um what second ranked lieutenant yeah uh

you you actually broke that news when he got his demotion yeah um but i and it hurt me yeah it

hurt me to do yeah it hurt all of us yeah it was it was that some stories they cut to the bone right

that one it brings me no pleasure to report that i've demoted Steven Chay. But if you had to, if you were to put together the Adam Schefter mock top five with the information that you have because you swim in information, I think you could be the best mock draft compiler of all time.
There are some years where you feel like you can get a lot of the picks and there are other years that something happens that just upsets the apple cart and kind of throws things into chaos so i think there are some years that i would be fairly accurate and other years like a lot of people not as accurate i just think that those exercises are so hard that's why i put much credence. They're fun to look at.
Like you could look at a mock draft over and over. Like eating pizza.
It's all good. Yeah.
But some of them, again, if there's one trade and one guy goes, it just changes everything. Or if the Raiders reach like they do every year, it changes everything.
The fastest guy possible. um you know i i'll there'll be people that call you from teams hey give me your top 15 picks there were some years that were big uh other years not as big so this year yeah caleb williams is a bear can we announce that right now go ahead okay i'm not gonna stop you williams is a bear where is justin fields gonna that's that's the question i'm sure you're working on it right now? Go ahead.
Okay. I'm not going to stop you.
Bill Williams is a bear. Where is Justin Fields going to go? That's...
That's the question. I'm sure you're working on it right now.
Right now. It does feel like they're going to make the trade before maybe free agency.
Well, it was amazing. Yeah, Ryan Poles couldn't have been more transparent about that.
Like, we want to get this done before free agency begins. What's interesting to me is that there are going to be moves that are made, right? Like, Kirk Cousins is a free agent.
Does he go back to Minnesota? And what if he doesn't? Baker Mayfield's a free agent. Does he go back to Tampa or does he not? Like these moves impact others.
So then if one of these teams happened to lose a quarterback, would they then be more apt to go trade for Justin Fields? But the Bears want to get it wrapped up as a courtesy to Justin Fields. Justin Fields, yeah.
And, again, what if they don't get the compensation that they want to eat? What is the compensation? What are you hearing? Well, I think it's pretty simple. Ryan Poles, the Bears general manager, worked in Kansas City at the time that they traded for Alex Smith.
They traded two twos to the 49ers for Alex Smith. Sam Darnold, to me, when you talk to people, might be the most relevant compensation comparison.
The Jets traded him to the Panthers in 21, I believe it was, and it was for a six that year and a four and a two the next year. So three picks.
Okay. A two, four, and six.
And I think that the Justin Fields compensation is somewhere between what Alex Smith got and what Sam Darnold brought. Something like a second and a fourth or something.
A two and a four. Yeah, yeah.
Okay. A two and a three.
I can deal with that. Something like that.
But here's the problem. Like, who's the team that's doing it? Right.
Like, Atlanta might have some interest, might not. I think it's got some interest in some other quarterbacks, too.
Is Pittsburgh going to do that when they still want to give Mitchell Trubisky a chance? Or they're going to give up? No, Kenny Pickett, you mean. Kenny Pickett.
Yeah. Yeah, Kenny Pickett.
Mitch Trubisky moved up front. I think he's out of chances.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Are they going to give up the compensation? And then is there another, like who else outside Atlanta and Pittsburgh do you think would be main players for Justin Fields? Maybe Denver? No. Ooh.
No? Nope. Russ is gone, right? What are they going to do with Russ? Yeah.
I think they move up from Russ. I mean, Sean Payne, just read between the lines.
Right. Yeah.
I don't even have to't even have to read between the lines i think it's just saying sean pain's lines are like he holds up three fingers in a straight line and then he takes the first two down yeah those lines he's gone well he had that good line about he saw the meme out there yeah the jersey and all the quarterback we got to make sure we don't get the next one. Like he talked about the next one.
Yeah.

You're already talking about the next quarterback.

Yeah.

Well, you still got a quarterback.

But you don't think that the Broncos are in the Justin Fields market?

I don't.

So it's a limited amount of teams.

Again, what other teams?

We're brainstorming here.

Okay.

We're trying to help your franchise here, Big Cat, right?

Yeah.

What other teams could we think of that conceivably— Patriots, although they have a top three pick. Yeah.
Yep. Washington.
Not going to do that. That would be interesting for the show.
That would be very interesting. Is that a real thing, or is that just you trying to— No.
He's just— He's just— He's just— We're just doing a thought exercise here. Yeah.
We're trying to help out the Bears to see what other teams could conceivably step up for Justin Fields. And so, by the way, what if the Steelers aren't willing to trade that? And what if the Falcons aren't willing to? Then what are you doing? We're fucked.
Well, now you've got to wait for agency and to see some of the other movements. Yeah.
So that, to me, like we go into every offseason and there's always a big question. And I can't think going into this offseason what's any more interesting than the Bears at one.
We assume they will take Caleb Williams if everything goes well, and then you would assume they'd move on from Justin Fields and where he goes. Yeah.
So it's two quarterbacks, two teams. We'll see how it shakes out.
The Las Vegas Raiders, would they be in the market? Ooh, interesting. It is interesting.
Anything's possible. I don't know.
I don't know. I haven't heard them.
But that's my point, whether it's the Raiders or some other team. Like, what about the Seahawks? They keep being noncommittal on Justin Fia, on Geno Smith.
I don't think they're a team. but there's going to be a team, there are with most of these situations, that all of a sudden just pops in that you weren't expecting that team to be in play for this player.
Yeah. And I don't know, maybe it's the Raiders.
I'm trying to think, like, who... So I guess it's not the Cardinals, right? Because the Cardinals put out that really strange tweet the other day that just said, like, here's our franchise quarterback.
It seems like you don't just fire that tweet off if you have a franchise quarterback, right? That's them letting him know, like, hey, maybe they just tried to do a trade. It didn't work out, but we're committed to you now.
What did you just get? What did you just get on your phone? Just a little text popping in, just making sure that Justin Fields isn't traded while we're doing this conversation. Okay.
Read the text. Who texted you? Tell us who texted you.
NFC or AFC? Neither right now. Oh, interesting.
Goodell. Warmer.
Oh. Oh, there we go.
Troy Vinson. Oh.
But the Cardinals are firmly in on Kyler. Was there any talk at all about Kyler Murray's future with that organization?

I think it was them just announcing to the world

because there had been so much speculation about them moving on from Kyler,

them getting a top pick, them being in play for Caleb Williams,

even though they turned out to be a little bit better than that

and played themselves out of the number one pick.

People wondering about Kyler's future.

There were all these discussions, all this conversation, and I think it was just them planting a flag and saying, this is our franchise. We got our franchise quarterback.
I thought it was like if a husband or a boyfriend comes home and they just have flowers for no reason. The wife's like, wait, wait a second.
Yeah, what did you do wrong? Like that tweet just came out of nowhere. Kyler was probably like, huh? Right.
There was no need to announce anything. That's what we thought.

But okay.

Yeah.

So maybe, maybe they were meeting with the Bears privately about Justin Fields.

And before anybody could report that, while other reporters were distracted with Punxsutawney

Phil, they figured we should just plant our flag and say, here's our franchise quarterback.

You know what you should do?

The last hill for you to climb as a reporter. You should announce the election this year.
You know what? Yeah. RFK Jr.? If Steve Kornacki could come into our world, then why can't we go into his world? Yeah.
That's a good point. Yeah.
The numbers freak on Sunday Night Football. Yeah.
It looks like Roan. I think Tuesday night in November, I think you have to.
That's the only way Stephen Che will find out who's the next president. You might have to text him personally because he doesn't get any news.
It's not Schefter news. That's a fact.
We got to report precincts before anybody else does. He didn't find out about Ukraine and Russia for like three months.
He's like, Schefter hasn't talked about it. Yeah.
Who's the ghost of Kiev? I haven't heard. My notifications didn't send anything to me.
How pumped were you when you broke the Aaron Rodgers news live on air? Was that a highlight of the last year? Because you got the reactions. I think it was Mina Kahn.
Well, the funny thing was the reactions, it became this permanent little picture that's taken, like all these facial reactions. And I got in the text on the compensation on air so when i said that it included the jets one that's when everybody won we're nuts i'm like hold on hold on because i didn't have time to process it the way i should have right like i didn't deliver it the right way right i should have said okay here's the deal the jets are getting rogers and this but they're giving up that but it's happening in live tv that's live tv for you so as soon as i said the jets won that's when you know mina kimes you know you would have thought that you know yeah it's crazy yeah so so what what's up with rogers is he is he going to be fully healthy i mean the whole achilles thing like him saying he's gonna be back i actually think he did the jetsets a disservice because they never thought about something else because they're like, well, maybe he'll be back, strung him along a little bit, and had Zach Wilson play the rest of the year.
Well, the plan was to have Zach Wilson in bubble wrap. Right.
Not have to play at all and let him grow and learn. And if you remember back to hard knocks, zach wilson reacted around aaron rogers right he was soaking up everything that he was saying it's unfortunate for him that he got thrown into the fire again because that was not the plan so it would have been great if they had a quarterback like a gardner minshu that they could have turned to when rogers when they didn't for that.
Right. And I remember being at that game that night,

and I had this conversation.

Where did I see him?

Christopher Johnson, the Jets owner.

We do the pregame show for Monday Night Football.

We're on the field.

Aaron Rodgers runs out with the flag.

It was a lot of adrenaline, a lot of emotion.

Couldn't wait to see what was going to happen.

Go back into the truck, and Rodgers goes down.

And you knew it was not your run-of-the-mill injury.

So I'm like, okay.

I was supposed to go home at the end of the first quarter, get out of there.

And I stayed behind.

I went outside the Jets locker room.

I remember seeing Christopher Johnson walk in.

I'm like, what's the deal?

He goes, I don't know.

I don't know.

Where did I see him recently?

It had to be – where would I have seen him?

I said, you knew when you passed me, right?

He said, oh, yeah, I was with Aaron the entire time.

You know, and everybody was just so devastated by that night

and the circumstances surrounding it.

And the team never recovered from it. I remember I stayed around to do the post game show and scott van pelt show and i remember jet fans like they were they were happy they won the game i'm like why are you happy yeah it's it's that's exactly it's over like it just it's it doesn't matter that they won i don't think people grasp the magnitude of it immediately.
Yeah, how much they built around Aaron Rodgers and how he was the least pick. Yeah, and I thought maybe they were in denial that maybe, okay, it wasn't going to be a ruptured Achilles, which it was.
So, yeah, it was a night that changed the season for the Jets and the Jets luck. Yeah.
And then with the back and forth that they had with Wilson, Tim Boyle. You remember they put in Tim Boyle for a spark this year? Trevor Simeon.
Trevor Simeon. Who was – was it Salah making all those decisions or was that coming from upstairs? Oh, I don't think it's coming from upstairs.
I mean, he's the coach of the team. I think he probably decides on the quarterback.
You'd have to think that. No, I don't think anybody's telling him who to play.
I think he's doing what's best for the team. Again, I come back to the fact that it's unfortunate that they had to put Zach out there because I don't think that was the plan.
And I still think that guy's got talent. But with that position, it's got to be harnessed and harvested the right way where these guys wind up crashing and burning before they have a chance to become quarterbacks.
And that's what happened to him this year. And now he's going to get traded somewhere else or sign on somewhere else.
And we'll see if he could develop into the kind of guy that they thought he was when they drafted him. Was it two overall? So based off the Aaron Rodgers thing, we're big grass guys.
We support grass. Is the league going to actually – Smoking it or playing on it? Smoking it and playing on it.
Is the league hearing the players when they say, hey, we don't want to play on this turf anymore? Is there anything that's going to happen that they're maybe taking steps to be like, yeah, we should get back to playing on grass more often than not? That has been out there for how long? Players have always wanted to play on grass. Right.
But it feels like it's gaining a little bit more traction. Does it? Yeah, with the Jets injuries, with some of the concussion stuff.
MetLife Stadium, and they won't like it, but there have been some bad injuries on that field. Yes.
There just have been. That field makes me nervous.
Yeah, but it does feel like a little bit more momentum. Is the league just like, we don't care.
We're playing on what we play on.

Well, they're playing the World Cup, right?

Yeah.

They're putting in grass for that.

So why don't you just leave it?

It can be done, right?

Yeah.

So that's what I'm saying.

Is the league at least hearing this, or is it, nah, we don't care?

Because it is always that weird thing where the league will talk about player safety,

but then when it comes to action, it can sometimes be very different.

Well, I haven't heard a conversation about going away from field turf fields

We'll be right back. talk about player safety but then when it comes to action it can sometimes be very different well i haven't heard a conversation about going away from field turf fields in general but to me it should be pretty simple that if they're going to put grass in that stadium for the world cup game just leave the grass yeah leave it just leave it there and i don't care if it's dying out in the winter i don't care if they got to paint it the way the way they did in Cleveland, paint the grass green.
It's, to me, preferable to play on that rather than the other stuff that has led to some unfortunate injuries. The Bengals and I think the Vikings maybe, they had the split turf field and they got away from that.
So there's no more of the split turf anymore. I think some teams are – Clearly.
We know everything about the grass. Clearly.
did we ever get a conclusion to sod gate in the super bowl two years ago uh they replaced the turf it sounded like like the week or two before sort of like the 49ers practice yeah the sod father at it again yeah yeah yeah that was odd controversy cost the eagles a super bowl both involving the chiefs interesting interesting how scripted was the nfl this year for taylor swift to be at the super bowl to be hugging and smooching and rubbing Travis Kelsey's belly afterwards? It was a hell of a script. I mean, I read it in the preseason.
Yeah. And I couldn't believe the twists and turns that it was going to take.
Yeah. You knew, though.
You knew the second they got together. It's like, okay, Chiefs Super Bowl.
This is where it's going. That's easy.
Are the Chiefs bad for football? A good question. Thank you.
Were the Patriots bad for football? Some may say're bad for every other team yeah you know i that's the next that's the next conversation once once a team establishes a dynasty we then naturally have to go with are they bad for football to me when you get to watch a guy like patrick mahomes who's in the prime of his career entering the prime of his career might not even be there yet that's great yeah you get one of these all-time players. I don't know when that's ever bad.
Now, it's bad for the rest of the league. Like, I would not want to be a coach in the AFC West.
Yeah. Like, Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton, they took those jobs.
You take those jobs at your own peril. Yeah.
Because you've got to face that guy for the next dozen years. That's brutal.
That is good luck unseating him.

And all the quarterbacks in the AFC,

there was an opportunity this year for somebody to take this step forward. Can you imagine betting the Ravens at the beginning of the season

to win the Super Bowl and then not hedging that bet?

Fuck you.

With Patrick Mahomes.

Fuck you. You know way too much that bet.
Fuck you. With Patrick Mahomes.
Fuck you. Like the best quarterback

maybe to ever play.

You know way too much, Schefter.

God damn it.

God damn it.

It would never be me.

There was an opportunity

for Lamar Jackson and the Ravens

that they literally

didn't cash in on.

They didn't cash

and Big Cat didn't cash.

A five-six?

Imagine, Schefter,

if somebody did that

also with the Bills at the same time.

Listen, I bet on the Chiefs in the Super Bowl and I made it all right.

Yeah.

Could you imagine betting on Brock Purdy against Patrick Mahomes?

Can you imagine back-to-back years doing the Eagles one year and then the Ravens the next?

Can you imagine?

Again, I bet the Chiefs in the Super Bowl unlike some people in this world.

Wow.

Hold on.

Can you imagine doing it with the Eagles? We're not supposed to talk about gambling. The NFL is above gambling.
We should move on from this line. Oh, man.
Can you imagine doing with the Eagles? Why did you do that? Not hedging and then not hedging again the next year. No, I can't.
I can't even imagine that. I can't imagine it at all.
I can't imagine it at all. Can we talk about the Bills, though? Can we talk about Josh? Josh Allen and the Bills? I feel like they're good enough.
They should be good enough to, to compete and win a Superbowl for whatever reason, just keeps not happening to them. I think that reason has a lot to do with Patrick Mahomes, obviously.
How much, was there any conversation in Buffalo after the season was over about making any drastic changes at all? Not that I'm aware of. I mean, to me, they're entering the off season offseason they're close they're close and again they had the chance this year you got the Chiefs in Buffalo that's what makes it so hard for them uh that the opportunity was right there for them it was right there for all these teams like Joe Burrows out you know the Chiefs were down for a little while the Bills were at home and none of these teams took advantage of it much to your yeah Ravens at home you know it's true it's I mean Patrick Mahomes like you're not gonna get that many chances correct the window was there especially going into the season when we talked about Aaron Rodgers and Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow and all these guys and it's like you get three of those guys have it's still Patrick Mahomes.
I think if you're the Bills, honestly, you just got to keep knocking on the door and hope that one of those years, just ask all the people that played against Michael Jordan what it was like every year that they didn't get to win the NBA championship, whether it was who played in the East. Patrick Ewing in the Knicks.
It comes right to mind yeah no i mean it's it's it's the we've we've said it patrick mahomes the the the part where he's become the new patriots is that he is going to steal super bowls from some all-time quarterbacks that they're philip rivers are like even thinking peyton manning probably would have had more than just two and all these guys who are great great quarterbacks and they their their resume just isn't the same because they had tom brady in their era he's going to change legacies yeah other quarterbacks and other franchises because he's going to be that good and win that many super bowls he already has yeah and it's not like he's going away right he's just going to keep doing that kind of thing he's so good he's he's a joy from all these other cities, too. Yeah.
Imagine how much better life in Buffalo would be right now if Patrick Mahomes was not. Imagine how much better life would be in Baltimore and Chicago right now.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, we don't have to do that. We've already put that to bed.
So here's another team that's got the joy stolen from them. The San Francisco 49ers.

Are they at a crossroads? Because they have been so good for this five-year stretch where, you know,

going to two Super Bowls, another two NFC Championship games.

They've been right on the cusp.

What is it?

Like, is it?

I don't think it's Brock Purdy, but is there a question?

You know what's amazing? They have their garden, Spencer Burford, in overtime. And he goes the wrong way.
Yeah. On the block.
Goes the wrong way. And on that play.
He should have called a timeout. And he also had Kittle not on the field.
On that play where Spencer Burford went the wrong way, Brandon Ayuk was the primary option. And the guy covering Brandon Ayuk fell.
He fell. Brandon Ayuk is wide open for a touchdown.
Juwan Jennings is open for a touchdown. Brock Purdy doesn't have the time because the other lineman came in.
And that's how close. That's the margin.
Like if he just goes to— Jake Moody, extra point. And I flew out here to Indy with this guy.
I was saying to some of your coworkers here, I sat next to this guy named Simon who works for, I'm drawing a blank on the name of the company, Track. What's the company that tracks the golf balls? Trackman? Trackman? Trackman.
Golf Zone. No, it's not Golf Zone, it's Trackman.
Golf zone's better, though. Trackman? This guy works for trackman.
He tracks NFL kicks. We were talking about that.
And he went into the – there are certain teams that employ him. And he scouts kicks and what they're doing.
What a horrible existence. Well, hold on.
Just watching kicks over and over. He tried out for the Dallas Cowboys a couple of years ago.
He kicked in college, small college. Simon, I forget his last name.
Anyway, he calls up the dad on Jake Moody, and he goes through all his extra points. And he's like, ideally, you want to be above 10 feet on all your extra points.
And he showed a few of them where he was like 9'7". Most of them were above 12 feet.
And these teams hire this guy as a consultant to say to the kicker, hey, you need a little bit more trajectory on your extra point, which you ordinarily would think, well, what's the value in that? Well, the value in it may have been a world title. This is the best sales pitch I could ever give to Simon, who I met on my plane flying out here from TrackMan.

But he had all the data on Jake Moon.

I said, the 49ers, are they one of the teams you work for?

He said, no.

Oh, brutal.

He was a little shaky all season.

Yeah, he was.

But, you know, people forget he did make two over 50.

He did.

And he hit some big kicks in college for Michigan.

He was a great kicker, and they took him high.

And he wasn't consistent this year, but he was great in the Super Bowl other than the extra. He set the record.
He held the all-time record for longest field goal for about, like, 10 minutes, yeah. I also noticed you haven't apologized for Michigan cheating.
Yeah, no, I have not, and I will not. Oh, okay, I like that.
I respect that. Are you a little upset that Jim Harbaugh is gone? Because it does feel like that was an incredible run that he's been on, beating Ohio State three years in a row, national title.
Maybe you're going back to the pack.

Well, let me say this.

I'm a big Jerome Moore fan.

Okay.

I love that guy.

I think he's going to be great.

And I don't view it like that.

Like, to me, I look at, like, next man up.

Jerome Moore deserves this.

He's worked for this.

The program, I think Jim has left left in a spot where i think you know you get a ton of sanctions yeah yeah exactly i think that they'll be still very strong um and jim wanted to go to the nfl yeah he wanted to go to the nfl he was gonna go at some point you know he went at the perfect time and there are more and more college coaches that seem to want to go to the nfl like he was going i had this argument with my friends i'm like they're like he's he's gonna stay and uh in fact i remember the day very funny i'm on a group text chain with my college buddies and one of my college buddies text me that his son just saw something that jim harbaugh is debating a new extension for Michigan. And I was waiting at that moment for the call that it was done with the charters.
And my heart's like pounding as I'm waiting for this call. And I'm like, stop.
And like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Maybe he could stop.
Just stop, okay? He's not going back. I know just and i said stay tuned and within another hour the deal got done with the chargers he was in la he wasn't going back to ann arbor and obviously the son of one of my college roommates i i would hope that they would turn to me more than they would turn to him from yes yes um did you cry when michigan beat ohio state when teron moore cried no that was penn that was penn state yeah and that was the first game of his suspension yeah did you cry when you're like they did it they did for coach no no no no yeah that you know listen i'm good with all that all the emotion uh i don't love the f word on national tv oh you don't like fuck on national tv why not you look rude wait what about okay talk about crying honestly do any of these uh teams scouting here in the combine for indy do they care that kale williams cried because i think they might hold on let's say there are 31 teams that do care i know the bears doesn't matter I i know i know i know but like do you think that that actually matters at all in terms of like nfl teams no okay i think you i think it a little by the way if he's your quarter you care no i don't care i'm gonna be like that's i'll start crying whenever he wants me to i'll cry on command i'm just saying i still think there's a little bit there's at least one guy in every room who's like, hey, he cried.
What's up with that? Okay. You know, he's in touch with his feelings.
Yeah. And he's going to be the Bears quarterback in all probability.
I love that he cried. And then every other team will be like, that guy cried.
He's a loser after they don't get him. Yeah.
That's how it works. It becomes a negative if you don't get the guy.
You know, the funny thing is maybe it becomes like one of those things during the draft process that comes out, and it's like some team driving the narrative like, yeah, Caleb Williams, crybaby. Oh, we're in full Caleb Williams bashing mode because that's all that's left.
Like there's nothing – when you get to a point in the combine draft cycle where it's like here's what the number one pick is, it's just going to all be negative. I had Drake May on my podcast last week.
I said to him, the next two months, get ready for no reason. Yep.
For your stock to go up one day and your stock to go down the next. Pick you apart.
And it'll come out. Drake May can't throw on the run or whatever it is.
The S2 cognition test. Yeah.
There you go. I mean, are those guys still in business they're out of business right now they gotta be right you know there the thing is is that there are a lot of teams that would turn to that company and they would lean on that information it would kind of supplement all the other work that that's what it would do but there There teams that i think put some credence into it interesting and uh whoo yeah could it ever been more wrong on one guy ever counterpoint bryce young ordered the scallops when we went to dinner with uh with the owner of the panthers with tepper so that's why tepper liked him so that kind of outweighs bry tested off the charts.
Off the charts. Off the charts.
And, yeah, I mean, that's hard. If you're the Panthers and you made that trade and – Yeah.
It's bad. And – It's bad.
I like to tease the owner. I do too.
His wife was a big C.J. Stroud person.
Oh. Is she really? She likes C.J.
Stroud. Okay.
She's a big Ernest and Julio Gallo fan too. So I got a couple more questions because Stephen Che has some questions too.
Real quick, you mentioned your podcast Know It From Adam. No, that would change the name a long time ago.
Yeah, that was the worst podcast name of all time. I agree.
Actually, it's something you and Che have in common. Che once had a show called Surf and Turf.
Wait, hold on. Is it still called? He had a show called Surf and Turf that was a football podcast.
Yeah? Surf and Turf. Surf and Turf for a podcast? For a football podcast.
Why was it called Surf and Turf? There's no reason. Because he...
Talk in the mic. You have a mic with us here.
We changed it to the Adam Schefter podcast. Okay, that makes more sense.
Surf and Turf was on it. Plain and simple.
Who's on the Adam Schefter podcast? You guys. I need to get you guys on yeah well no i'm on i'm a note from adam guy that's we were on that show that show rocked yeah that show rocked my other my other question is do you steven brought this up on the way down do you i think we've talked about this but do you miss driving at all because you don't you're not allowed to drive drive i drive i thought espn banned you from driving it took away your license no i drive you know you know who would like to ban me from driving my wife and my daughter because i'll be in the car i'll get a text and you you want to see arguments you want to see somebody get pissed off would you stop that you do have a driver for the most part because of the news no i know when i would be going to bristol, I'd have the driver to go to Bristol.
But I don't go to Bristol all that much during the season. It's Sunday morning.
So, no, I drive. Okay.
I drive. I drive myself everywhere.
Although at certain times of the year, it's probably best off to have somebody drive you. And I look forward to my daughter.
Yeah. She does getting her license.
She could be your driver. She could be the driver.
yeah yeah yeah um i got i got one thing about the commanders real quick then we'll let che ask some questions first of all i would like for you to get on board with the rebrand of that that coach's graphic that you always like to put out of to include raheem morris in the future right yeah yeah so what we need to do with that we need to include raheem morris on it we need to include dan Dan Quinn on it and rebrand it as, look at all these ex-Falcons coaches that are now head coaches somewhere else in the league.

That way it's not the 2013 Redskins anymore.

Can we do that?

Done.

It's the Falcons coaching staff that's now been spread out.

That graphic of all those, by now, it's almost cliched, right?

Yes.

Did you know that?

It feels personal.

Well, it's like Matthew Stafford and Clinton Crenshaw went to the same high school. We know the coaches by now.
We know. We've heard it time and time again.
Just when that comes across your desk, make sure that those are Falcons coaches that are now elsewhere in the league, not Redskins coaches. So Kyle Shanahan, Dan Quinn, Raheem Marsh back in Atlanta.
Yeah. LaFleur.
Mike McDaniel. Yeah, you're right.
Okay, we'll rebrand it. Thank you.
I appreciate that. And then my other question, what are the commanders going to do at number two? They go quarterback.
The question is they do Jaden Daniels or Drake May. New people.
Don't know what they're thinking yet. I need a little bit of time before I give you that answer.

Okay.

I don't mean to ride the fence on you, but these guys haven't had their pro days yet.

They haven't had their 30 visits yet.

They haven't taken the S2 test yet.

I think the Texans leaked the S2 thing so the Panthers wouldn't draft straight.

You know, the interesting thing is, what if the Houston Texans had the number one overall pick? What would they have done? They would get a shitload of picks for it. No, they would have gotten CJ Stroud.
I don't know. You mean last year? Last year.
If they had the number one pick and they had their choice Yeah, it worked out. Of Bryce Young and CJ Stroud.
Lovie Smith winning that last game with Davis Mills going to two.

It works out for a reason.

Everybody was all over Lovie Smith.

I know.

Right?

And it was the greatest thing that he ever could have done

for the Texans organization.

He set them up.

They won the game.

They fell back in the draft, and they wound up getting CJ.

That's what you never know.

It's true.

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Roback question is going to be given to Stephen Che. So, Stephen Che is a Schefter.
I think he's your number one fan. I think he's your number one fan.
Che, would you like to ask some questions absolutely yes um so it's very cool to get all these like nuggets of things very cool you have more intel about the nfl than probably any living person especially like behind the scenes stuff so is this a question or you're just sucking them off well'm freezing. Keep going.
Jay Glazer. So what is maybe a piece of news that never came to light that would be the ultimate butterfly effect moment for right now? Des Bryant tape.
Butterfly effect. Des Bryant tape.
Like if this one small thing had happened like that, you know, throw to Brandon Iyuk, the NFL landscape would be totally different right now. Well, if the Texans had – that's a perfect example, right? If the Texans had lost that game and gotten the number one pick in that draft, if that had happened, I think they might have taken Bryce Young.
Yeah. And I don't know if they would have traded the pick, which means Chicago wouldn't have Caleb Williams, which means they wouldn't be shopping Justin Fields this year.
That's a big one. There are a whole host.
I got more for you. Here's a great one that pertains to the Super Bowl this year that we talked about a little bit on Sunday Countdown, but I didn't deliver it the right way.
Seems like a lot of that's going around with you, Schefter. Seems like old Schefter would have delivered it the right way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The draft where the 49ers in 2017 had the second overall pick initially, Patrick Mahomes was in that draft.
Okay. This interview's over.
They didn't do't do any work on him yeah they didn't do any work on him because they thought the following off season kirk cousins was leaving washington oh okay hold on hold on this gets better and better so kirk cousins is leaving washington they thought that he would want to be there they would want him there and it's a lay. So there's no reason to do any real work on the quarterbacks in the 2017 draft.
So why do you need to work on Patrick Mahomes with Deshaun Watson when you know you're going to get Kirk Cousins? Well, what happens is New England calls up San Francisco that Halloween. It's like, hey, we got to move on from Jimmy Garoppolo.
Just give us a two. Really? Well, they do that.
So that blows up the Kirk Cousins plan. But back to that draft in 2017, the only quarterback that they did extensive work on that they wound up trading up for, in the third round, they moved up to take C.J.
Bethard. And when C.J Beathard left after four years and signed with Jacksonville, the 49ers got a compensatory seventh-round draft pick.
And with that compensatory seventh-round draft pick that they got from the draft in which they bypassed Patrick Mahomes, they took Brock Purdy. Who is better than Patrick Mahomes.
That's such a beautiful story. That is a great story.
That's a great answer. Damn.
Another question I have, just because you're in such the you have to be on your P's and Q's, because you word all your own tweets, right? Yeah. Wow.
How do you feel about that? That's super impressive. I also, every word that comes out of my mouth, I say.
By the way the way speaking of which what happened with the Chiefs vs. Commanders in the Super Bowl oh yeah I thought for a second this was fake news over there that was you're losing a step yep well you know what I knew that I'd be making my annual appearance here I wanted to get P.T.'s hopes up again I figured, you know what? It would overshadow the news of him signing his contract.
I was giving PFT cover that week to have people mock me to deflect the attention that he should have gotten for his new contract being signed, Super Bowl. I appreciate that, Adam.
For a second, I did think that the commanders were in the Super Bowl for like half a second. And it made me realize that there's a big market out there.
If somebody just wants to create like an alternate reality NFL like magazine and have Photoshop's of like the commanders in the Super Bowl or like whatever shitty team you root for, people would read that. Yeah.
You know what happened that night? I was trying to help you out. And I also happened to be dealing at that time with my daughter and, you know, trying to get her situated for Super Bowl week and the stuff she was doing for Nickelodeon.
And it was a lot going on. You just say Vegas.
We're taking Stephen Chase question time. Go ahead.
Sorry. We had to get you.
You're probably the guy that the most people have Twitter notifications for. So I want to peel back the onion a little bit.
Who does Shefty have Twitter notifications on for? Good question. I got Woj.
Yeah. I got Field Yates.
I got Jeff. I'm very supportive of my team.
Yep. So wait, did you take off the notifications, Diana Rossini, when she left ESn uh we love diana do you didn't answer the question we love diana okay yeah all right that's i like that you're out of the family now we had a chain going you know it's it's actually pretty funny we had a chain going a text chain you know with certain people at espn jeff darlington field yates myself a couple of our bosses producers diana was brought into that chain last super bowl and i was made she was the first woman yeah to join the chain she broke the chain gang and then when she left we had to start a new chain i mean that's brutal like right in and out.
Yeah. Turned her back on you real fast.
All right. So who else on notifications? That's about it.
It's about it. Okay.
Another question, Jay? Good question. I'll end on this one is that you talked about, I think it was last Super Bowl, how you went out with Diana and Dan Orlowski and had a bunch of margaritas and had like a fun day.

I want to know what is a – walk me through a perfect, fun, chef-y Saturday.

Because all we see is news break-in.

This is the stalker stuff.

Very fun.

And please give us addresses too.

Of where you'll be.

What a normal chef-y Saturday looks like.

Wow. Like where do I even go with that? So you wake up.
Yeah. What do you eat for breakfast? I've had the same breakfast every day since COVID began.
What was it? What is it? Did you lose your taste buds or something? Yeah. You know what? I used to go out to this smoothie shop, which is out of business.
And then I would go to Starbucks and get the same kind kind of and when you couldn't leave your house for a year uh i wind up bringing yogurt blueberries and some granola have it every single that's a good breakfast that's a good breakfast all right so you start with that and then a good saturday yeah you know a lot of it is tied into uh your family being happy, making sure that they're taken care of.

Because if they're happy, then everybody's happy.

If they're not happy, right, Big Cat?

Yep.

Nobody's happy.

That's a fact.

So we start there.

But if it's going to be good for me selfishly, then it's probably going to be a productive day of work where you're working on some things that you feel pretty good about uh you know that they'll be there for you in the morning or whatever it is on a sunday show and uh also i would say oh coach quinn congratulations yeah left hand up yeah uh and then i would also say some kind of fantasy success like my nba fantasy team this year stinks. But in other years, it's been good.
And I love when I'm rolling there. And, you know, honestly, playing DraftKings.
Yeah. Love that.
Great plug. All right.
Well, Shefty, thank you as always. Yeah, the head coach of the Commanders walks in.
I get booted out, right? And it is the draft, way of big cat pft and hank like you guys control this we do we do control the draft control the draft one two three yes right but shefty this is one of our favorite yearly traditions so thank you as always uh you're the best and thank you for the christmas gift yes i appreciate it yes the blanket was awesome i thought the s stood for shefter that you sent me a blanket with your initial on it i saw that bullshit tweet i didn't know i was like wait a second it's great just put a schefter blanket no we're we're very happy to be on the schefter christmas thank you thank you guys as i say to you before and as i'll say to you again nobody ever stops me and says i i heard the adam schefter podcast but i hear often often which is a testament to you guys, love you. I'm part of my take.
Bring back Noah from Adam. I do it once a year.
People listen to that more than my own podcast. All right.
We're going to get Che on the Christmas list. You got it.
All right. Yeah.
We'll get it. Thanks, Adam.
That just made his life. Okay.
Let's wrap up the show. We got Fyre Fest the week uh hank happy you're out of the st elmo's bathroom yeah that was uh fire uh no it wasn't it wasn't gonna be that was fire fest yeah you guys bullied me into eating the uh shrimp scampi sauce or whatever it's called cocktail sauce cocktail sauce hank hank got up from dinner we had a nice boy hot as fuck it was it was me pft hank memes uh max and steven shea and when we're paying the bill hank stood up he kind of like grabbed my shoulder and i could feel the emergency in his body like pulsing through me and uh he he was like i gotta go to the bathroom i'll meet you guys back at the hotel and i'm pretty sure you were like we sat and hung out for another 15 20 minutes and i'm pretty sure you were still in the bathroom he was i i didn't so i i uh we got a text like 30 minutes later being like i'm still in the bathroom no i i left my phone at the hotel because i didn't bring a charger and pft pulled a veteran move that i don't know if we want to reveal it on the podcast.
I actually don't think you should. No, I think we should.
I want to spread this to the people. This was good because we were in the lobby, and we were both asking the front desk, and we're like, is there a place to buy chargers? Or I asked.
I was like, is there a place to buy a charger on here? She's like, not really. You got to go to a gas station down the street.
It was cold, and I have a jacket. I was like, fuck.
PFT was behind me. I go up to the the front desk and if they're cool with you you can make this move move work and so i went up as as like cool as i could and i was like i know you guys don't have any charges here you don't have any in the lost and found that somebody just recently left behind right and the guy looked at me like this guy knows because hotels have that's the number one thing that gets left behind yeah it's a phone charger usually i'd say it works for me like 50 of the time depending on what your rapport is like with the person at the front desk and the guy's like wait right here yeah back and they came back with a charger for hank and hank's jaw was on the floor i'm surprised that you didn't know about this move already that was impressive i'm excited to use it again so i also told hank that i use that move all the time for toothbrushes and for a second he was like what the fuck uh but my phone was dead we were going to dinner soon so i just left my phone because i had to get the charger back to pfc after dinner so i just left my phone charging during dinner so when i went to the bathroom i didn't have my phone that's a nightmare what'd you do there was a stall there was the stall was full it was an emergency i was like i don't have much time here there was one one stall bathroom in st normal's which i thought was a stall.
The stall was full. It was an emergency.
I was like, I don't have much time here. There was one stall bathroom in St.
Elmo's, which I thought was crazy. In this one section, I had to go to another section.
There was two stalls. Those were both occupied.
I was considering having to sprint back to the hotel. Didn't.
Waited it out. Went to the bathroom.
But this whole process was like 20 minutes. And we had already paid the bill and stuff.
You guys were going to party. So I was like, they're probably back at the hotel.
I didn't have my phone. So I was like, I'll just walk back to the hotel.
And then I texted you guys. You guys were like, we're still here.
Okay. That's a funny move.
Yeah. But yeah, how's your butthole doing? It's good.
I blame the shrimp sauce. Shrimp scampi.
So is that your fire fest? My fire fest was, it is combine, Barstool combine related.

But it's also, PFT said this, so I'm not going to take credit for it.

But it will be the start of my dunkumentary.

Oh.

There's some bad film out there.

Three cone drill.

The athlete's in you though somewhere.

It is.

Deep. Real deep.
Real deep. real real deep big cat's commentary was accurate but also very mean he said hank looks like someone who's gonna maybe do this fast but he's gonna look really bad doing it and then i took one step and you go yep what i mean i at least said that there was a going to be fast.
It was fast. It was one of the faster times.
For any of us that were bloggers, were podcasters, we don't train in fast twitch agility drills, the three-cone drill is impossible to look cool doing. No, Max looked cool.
He looked like a sumo wrestler. He was straight.
Max's whole vibe when he's's doing athletic stuff is like if you just had a baby learn how to play these sports overnight. And it's just like there's something about him.
Well, he runs on his tippy toes. Yeah, right.
And he's like body's upright. He's got the little man bun.
It's just Max looks good. Running on the balls of your feet is what you're supposed to do.
Yeah, I know. It's just something like that did you have a good three-cone drill that was what it was middle of the pack that was what looked awesome yeah but i i did see hank's three-cone drill um it looked bad you should tie your shoes next time yeah no it was bad i'm not no one no one was wrong you know being supposed on instagram i got cooked and rightfully so again start of the documentary like that's that's the tape that i'll you know hang up on my on my wall and watch it every day because i i the training starts yeah you're gonna hang up a tape of a digital video on your wall yeah a gif i'm gonna print out a gif like frame by frame it's good just in the comments a flip flip flip uh all right pft your fire fest.
My fire fest of the week is I tried to save the environment, and I ended up fucking myself. Yes.
So I have an electric car. Lib.
Very lib of me. But it's great in the city.
I never have to stop for gas. I cut down on my dip a lot like Blake Bortles.
But I like my car. However, I took it for the first road trip this week.
I drove to Indy. And upon leaving, it gives you like a calculation of how far you have left in your battery life to get to Indy.
So I charged it overnight, got it up to 100%. I left in the morning, it told me I would have about 15% battery left when I arrived in Indianapolis.
And then there's a charging station right here at Lucas Oil. So I was just going to hit that up and then drive back.
So as I start my drive, I'd say about 30 minutes in my drive, I look down at the estimated battery remaining calculator that we have. And it says now 12%.
I'm like, interesting. And then slowly but surely, every single mile that I drive, that percentage starts to dip, dip, dip dip until now i'm down at like five percent four percent three percent two percent so i text the group i'm like hey developing situation here um my car might not make it to indianapolis and i might need to get a ride from somebody else to take me the last leg so i i go my way and it gets down now to zero so i'm like okay i'm screwed i gotta screwed.
I've got to find a charging station. Do you have extra apps open? No.
I don't think that does it. It's not like a phone battery.
It's your car. No, it definitely doesn't.
Yeah. You have the AC on.
Okay, so God's honest truth. Hank, I'm joking about what you just said, but when it started to get down beneath 5%, I turned the volume on my radio down.
Yeah. I was like, this might do it.
Save it. Yeah, don't yeah i don't need to be blasting mike greenberg right now it's just a soft a soft greenie would work and uh so i had to find a charging station on the way which added about i thought it was going to take about 15 that about 30 minutes to my trip so what we get to the combine shefters here and i was like five minutes late getting in i was out of breath because i had to sprint from down the street also I parked at the wrong Hyatt by mistake um and I had to run down we've had a lot of problems with the Hyatts here yeah yeah so uh the fact that there are two Hyatts within like two blocks of each other stupid dumbest thing ever yeah but yeah I tried to save the environment now I'm I'm going full I'm going Taylor Swift mode it's like get use as much energy as possible.
Get a diesel truck. I'm going to fly places.
I will fly a private jet from Chicago to Indy instead of driving my earth-saving electric car. So that's what I get for trying to save the environment for our children and our children's children.
Fuck those kids. Yeah.
Because I'm going to be driving diesel now. Love that.
Any car should be able to go like three hours easily yeah four it told me i could get i think it was like estimated 290 miles on this trip ended up being like 220 210 miles something around that uh so i gotta maybe just get the el camino now maybe that's my full-time driver yeah just get a solar what about when when the sun's not out it It's the same problem. That's a worse problem.
Same problem. Same problem.
Okay. My Fire Fest.
I had one originally was the war on ice cream that everyone is. We talked about it on Wednesday, but we've got new people going after ice cream.
This was Jesse Waters on his show. And I want us to say that they're doing this on purpose.
They're trying to take ice cream from us, so we need to just fight. But here's what he said.
Should not be licking ice cream in public. Wait, hold on.
A grown man, especially the president, should not be licking ice cream in public. What the fuck is that? Why are you as a man eating a treat? What does Meek Mill think about this? It's crazy.
He probably would. Well, no, I'm not going to say.
It's more of a snow cone. So that was my original Fyre Fest.
But then as we sat down here today, my new Fyre Fest came. And it was a text from Billy Football with two pictures of a green van.
Some people might guess what that van is. Vanny Woodhead.
Two pictures of a ghost. And he said, do you guys want Vanny in the Chicago parking lot? Now.
And this is all unfolded on the show. This is all unfolded on the show.
Like three years ago. Probably three years ago.
For people who don't know, I purchased Vanny Woodhead in my name for, what was it, like 600 bucks we paid for it.

I had the insurance in my name.

We used Vanny Woodhead.

Vanny Woodhead broke down.

Vanny Woodhead sat in a parking lot for a couple years.

And finally, I was like, I need to stop paying insurance because it's just a waste of money

for a car that we never, for a van that we never drive.

So I told Billy, like, turn in the the plates let's get it off the road chop shop he's like no problem i've taken care of it and you paid you're like this is your job for the week yeah i'll give you x amount you have to get it done by this date and now sitting here february 29 2024 uh billy has texted us being like oh yeah about that van that i got rid of i still have it do you want it yeah i don't know this is gonna call i'm probably gonna lose my license because he probably has it like i don't know and i said i i replied to him because i was like do i technically still own this van and he replied technically it doesn't exist

it's the best billy football reply of all time also in the pictures that he sent over when i first saw these the thought that came to my head was these are pictures that somebody takes when they're selling a car yeah there's two different angles of it it's in a parking lot in a spot in a space all by itself.

I think Billy was trying to sell this car, so technically it might exist. I think the car might exist.
He might not have found a buyer for it, and now he's hitting us up and be like, hey, do you guys want this in the Chicago parking lot? Yeah, so, I mean, the good news is I think we're going to get it after we thought it was dead. This is like we're living like in a movie when the main character dies and they're like, oh, he actually had a twin brother.
Yeah. And he comes back.
That's how I feel right now. I'm like, wait, what? We did the whole episode where Vanny died.
Like four times. But we are going to get Vanny to Chicago.
We're in a different financial situation than we were six years ago so i'm gonna probably put some money into this van pimp it out figure out how to make it technically exist again and now we'll have vanny back in our lives like this would have been like this trip to indy would have been a perfect let's just hop in vanny yeah so we're vanny's back so the best way i would think to make the car exist again you would have to just like register as an auto manufacturer but who i'd be like i built this car yeah this is mine who owns it that's the part that i gotta figure out nobody owns it so when you when you ask billy like get it for the office what can we do billy says uh we could put it on a flatbed to chicago i can look into some stuff yeah so billy's honestly billy was supposed to be looking into some stuff on vanny woodhead like six years ago it's just crazy because this van was out of my life so long ago we should call billy and it just all of a sudden we should call billy all right do you want like i don't so i don't know i'll call him. When you got rid of your insurance and the plates.
Yeah. And I'm pretty sure I signed the car over to Billy.
That's what I'm curious. It's like, did it just.
Oh, man. He was definitely trying to sell this car.
Billy. Hey, you're live on PMT, little podcast.
Who owns Vanny Woodhead? Technically, it's destroyed. Okay.
Legally, it's chopped up, but I didn't have the heart to chop it up, so I've just been keeping it. Wait, you didn't have the heart or you didn't have like you just didn't want to do it no I was like I can't like I was every time it was an excuse I used to not follow through with chopping it up okay so who so but did you tell someone you chopped it up yeah you told us you chopped it up but who who so it? No one? No one.
It's technically, like, scrap. It's a ghost car.
It just hasn't been scrapped. All right, so I guess we've got to figure out a way to get to Chicago.
But how do we become back into ownership? I think we tow it there. If it's technically scrapped, how do we...
Yeah, how do we bring it back to life? it back to life well it's just basically like trash so like you can legally like bring trash to chicago like it's if i hook it up to my truck no no no but what if we want to drive that part we understand we're gonna get it to chicago we're gonna actually i'm actually gonna probably put money into this and like pimp it out because it'd cool to have it. But then how do you make it so it's not dead anymore? Oh, well, then you just got to get it street legal and then get it inspected.
It's easy, big cat. You just have to get it street legal.
Okay. All right.
I got nothing out of this conversation, but I appreciate it. Wait, wait.
Billy, is it like a Titleist vehicle? It's an Yeah. Okay.
They look into his past and they're going to be like, wasn't his car scrapped? Okay. PFT has a question.
Yeah. Billy, judging from the pictures that you sent over, were you at any time trying to sell this car? No, I couldn't sell it.
It's trash. But it's not.
I know. I know.
But technically, I couldn't like sell it to anybody. Got it.
But then how are we gonna get that? That's my point. The pictures seemed like they were from exist.
Like if we sell it, if we go to the DMV, they're gonna look into the past history of this car and be like, this car was scrapped. It didn't exist.
Therefore... This is really the movie where the twin brother comes back.
Yeah, the TV show, yeah. This is Schrodinger's van.
Yeah. All right, well, Billy, stay tuned.
I'll have my people reach out to your people, and we'll get Vanny to Chicago. Watch Last Chance Uganda on the Wonton Dodge.
All right. Good plug.
All right. See you, Billy.
All right. Yeah, that didn't solve anything.
We're going to have so many car legal experts. I'll take their advice.
Give me advice because I'm going to. First step is I'm going to get to Chicago.
Second step, if anyone in Chicago works at an auto body shop or like exhibit exhibit i don't know where you're at these days like i will i will pay real money i would like to get i'm sure we need a new motor new brakes new everything um but it would be cool if we had a van that worked yeah put some shag carpeting in there make it real nice okay so we're gonna get a new van like how new van. I heard you like podcasts.
I'll put a podcast inside your van. Yeah, I'm going to take it to an auto body shop.
They're like, this is the dumbest thing ever. Why would you put real money into this van? No, we can make Vanny Woodhead into an actual very cool thing.
I agree. I think it's going to have to be taken out of the studs.
There's probably some rust issues. God knows what Billy's been doing in Vanny Woodhead.
We maybe should just burn it, actually, now that I think about it. Might have been in his apartment for a while.
There might be several reptiles still living in there that all have names. I remember there was a hole in the floor.
Yeah, that's part of the charm. I peed through that hole one time.
You just see the highway. We were driving down the highway, and we used to pee through that hole.
Yeah. Don't have to pull over.
But yeah, so Vanny Woodhead's back. Boston Connor lived in it for like three days.
Oh, that's right. Every time I see him on MacBee Show, I'm always like, he was an intern and he lived in Vanny Woodhead.
It's actually a perfect thing for our eight year anniversary today to have Vanny Woodhead come back alive. It's a perfect gift.
I like that. So yeah, Vanny Woodhead's back.
We'll figure out a way to fix it up. Like I said, if anyone knows how we can make it real again, and then if anyone has an auto body shop or, like, pimps out cars in the Chicago area, we're ready.
So we could do a whole video series of bringing it back to life in a fucking sick, like, engine. We need everything new.
Yeah, it's going to just be the shell of it but we're doing it so update billy just sent a photo over um from the person that now has custody of vanney woodhead hi will it's someone is this van garage can i get rid of it i think that meant to say is this van garbage oh and that happened today that's why bill so billy just gave this problem to someone else and that person was like hey man this problem is kind of annoying yeah what are we doing can i throw away this van well billy yeah he's like can i park it here for a couple days and it's been two years yeah yeah that's exactly what happened okay all right uh last fire Fest, Stephen Shea. He's been traveling with us.
There's nothing better. Stephen Shea's whole life is a make-a-wish, but bringing him to Combine Week is the best because he just walks around being like, oh, there's Bucky Brooks.
Oh, did you think Daniel Jeremiah took a shit in this bathroom? I didn't do that. Should I sniff the seat? He also met a guy named joe bucks fan last night who has a blog and it was like it was like dueling countries it was like a country that were about to go to war he was he wasn't so warm with him no i mean uh he's on your turf i didn't know there were two guys who care this much about the bucks there's a There's a lot.
There's several Bucs blogs. So one of the most concerning parts of the evening last night was Che introduced me to a bunch of people from the Bucs front office that he's friends with.
And they actually love Stephen Che. Yeah, I know.
It makes me want to sell stock on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, how much they like and trust Stephen Che. It's because if you know Stephen...
Who else would be Bucs well and also if you know Stephen Che if you don't have to deal with Stephen Che every day he can come across as like a normal person that you would like and but if we like sent him to the Bucs for like two weeks they would they would send him back they'd be like they'd actually take a picture of him be like hey we chopped it for parts do you want them too much che yeah i became uh we kind of look back on this finally but i became a little bit endearing to some of the people there because the first time i ever met all of them really uh i met the gm jason light he brought me on the sideline and uh he's like oh why don't you meet the director of uh pro personnel john spitek so i just turned to him i was just like hey steve i was gonna go uh dude what's going on with right guard we got to figure this out and he just turns to me he goes you just got right to the point yeah no he's a super high level uh person but uh yeah i uh i voiced my concerns to them they know uh jason leigh's giving shit about a right tackle who i was very nervous about this year i got a great year and uh what about the bucks treating families poorly and also the bucks i mean if that was family and friends it would be an a plus because i get the red carpet rolled out every time but yeah if it's just biological families i i can't speak for that because i'm not i don't, yeah, they're a first-class organization. They actually made a statement about it.
That doesn't make them first class. That's impressive.
Yes, we have bugs. First class.
That probably is a Florida thing. They have some, like, gross bugs down there.
They have some serious bad bug issues in Florida. Not specifically in the stadium, but just all around.
Okay, so what's your Fyre Fest? Because I explained Fyre Fest to you, and if if anyone knows steven jay he was like this is gonna be tough for me because nothing really gets him down ever but you have to have something yeah i mean it just has to be something like recent because i can tell an older story no it's like this past week we it's like a way to recap the week and send us off in the weekend you can pretend that what happened to you a couple weeks ago just happened to you uh it's like a pretty well-known story from the yak with my van but um wait what the my minivan what'd you do you didn't have insurance for it or you didn't pay it so i thought two years ago and this is like kind of yeah oh this is oh this is when you i i don't have to do this one because yeah yeah yeah but if we're doing a more recent thing no but just say that one because it's so ridiculous and we'll just say it very quickly sure so i bought a minivan and when you buy it you can pay for a car or sorry leased it you can buy you can pay for a couple months up front so i did that so i paid three months up front but then you can set up recurring auto auto payments automatic payments auto pay and so i did that and i got an email confirming i did that but the email electronic mail the email's title was confirming you have set up an auto payment and so i took that as all right sweet done don't have to worry about this ever again but they were saying automobile payment i did not realize so that's intentional by the way and he got repossessed yeah four months later my van was repossessed from my driveway and we called the police we thought it was stolen and uh they ran the plates and they were like oh yeah this was this was towed yeah you didn't pay uh i wish it was on one of those reality shows for the repo guys. Those are the best.
All true, by the way. All 100% true, not staged.
All right, so what happened bad this week? Nothing? You can say nothing. I mean, Donovan Mitchell was the worst pick ever.
Yeah, I mean, if you're good, you're going to lose 40% of your bets. I can't get this band off.
So we got these bands and these parties. Come on.
Come on'm with them Yeah you're in this boat too Yeah So they're these And I've never gotten a bracelet like this Where it's like This thing Titans You ever watch it Music festival? Titans down No yeah And I don't know I feel like I'm strong enough like this But I cannot rip it You have to use scissors You can rip it No I can't With with your hands yeah you bite it i just slowly went like that oh i mean mine's tight enough where it's not going to fit over the edge of my hand passbacks i mean you can attest this is tough i was trying to do this this is brutal this is one of those i had oh we got scissors right there okay all right so thank you we're gonna save the day i of these on. I forget where we were.
We're about to do an interview and I tried to rip it off with my hand. You almost broke your hand.
And I like, I think that's what injured my UCL the first time. I remember you're like wrist popped.
Yeah. You could, you could hear it on the tape.
But you're stuck in this boat too, right? Did you try and take that off? No, I'm not freaking out. I just knew I'd cut it off eventually.
Yeah, I mean, nothing.

I've got a good Firefest, Steven.

I've attended events before.

Steven has a bracelet that he can't get off.

Firefest the week.

Great show, boys.

Indy, combine, always fun.

One night in Indy.

One night in Indy.

We've got a couple interviews coming next week that we taped that will be great.

Dan Quinn and Diana Rossini.

Let's kick it to ourselves in studio for the lottery ball. Okay numbers

time sending into the weekend.

I'll do eight.

I'll do

88.

I'll do

87. Okay.

How does that hurt me? I'll do

77.

I'll change it to 20.

I'm changing to 20. I'm sticking with 77.
I'm changing to 20. Going three.
Oh, this is a lot of pressure, Max. 99, Pug.
This is a lot of pressure, Max. 67.
Man, if's not a bench 20

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