Robert Griffin III, The 41 Free Throw Challenge, Super Bowl Clean Up And We're Low On Sleep

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Today is Wednesday, February 14th. Happy Valentine's Day.
Happy Valentine's Day. Let's go, guys.
You guys get each other anything here? Yeah, I got you some lingerie. Thank you.
I've been needing some. So just to set the stage, Jake, what are you doing? Jake's showing a Valentine.
Oh, he's doing the Taylor Swift heart that he invented. Valentine's Day.
Gross. The Taylor Swift heart.
All right, right so just to set the stage it is three in the morning right now we've been streaming uh our horrifically awful attempt at hitting 41 free throws in a row for the last 13 hours no 11 hours 11 hours it probably will go for another 13 hours we're literally in hell. And so we figured let's just record the podcast right now because by the time we finish this thing, we will have not slept for like 48 hours and we'd be speaking gibberish.
You get the last bits of brain cells that we have left running around in the top of our head. Yeah, it feels like my skull is in a knife fight against my neck.
And we're soldiering through it. And Big Cat has probably, what, 600 points? Yeah, 600 points.
Cumulative tonight, I think. I've probably got about that many rebounds.
Hank has that many minutes sitting on the couch. So we're all exhausted right now.
I got benched. I just want to say.
I'm here. I just want to say to anyone out there, if you ever thought it'd be fun to like, hey, let's just try to hit 41 free throws in a row with your friends.
It's not fun. It's not fun.
It's not fun, especially if a lot of your friends don't play basketball. We had a little moment where I thought it was going to happen when Pat Bev came in.
Shout out to Pat Bev. Made the drive down for Milwaukee tonight.
The middle of the night showed up, and he just got to the line. He was wet.
He made, I think, 12 in a row, something like that. The vibes were so high.
Vibes were high. So the worst part about this entire experiment is right at the start of it, you guys got down to three shots left.
At 6.30. After the first two hours.
I looked at Hank. It was down down three shots i looked at hank and we both had this look like oh fuck we're going home for dinner yeah who's had more shots today you or patrick mahomes senior patrick mahomes jr looked like he was he he did you see him at disney world yeah or disneyland which one's disney world is the one to florida they were at land because it was closer to Vegas.
California. They're in California.
But he looked like he'd been partying all night in Vegas and then was forced to go to Disney World or land, which was very funny. He also said something interesting, which we kind of alluded to on Sunday, credit to us.
He said that Andy Reid had already explained to the Chiefs

that they were going to go for two if the 49ers had scored the first touchdown yeah that was the plan the Chiefs Chris Jones we talked about that on on Sunday yeah Chris I don't remember anything yeah so Chris Jones the Chiefs were very well prepared for this exact scenario more and more interviews with different 49ers came out and they all said that they hadn't really talked about it so I don't necessarily

know if Kyle Shanahan talked to an analytics

guy I think there was probably some guy on the sideline with glasses, and Kyle was like, what should we do? And he goes like, you always receive the kickoff. So I think that's what the Niners planned to do.
It did end up fucking them. I actually had a thought this morning because I woke up, just one thought, I woke up still thinking about the Super Bowl.
If you do get the ball first in overtime and you score, should you preemptively go for two? Yeah, well, I was thinking that as well. I don't think you would because then the other team could win with an extra point.
If you don't get it. If you don't get it.
But it's something to think about. Yeah.
That would be the only thing that could save the 49ers if they said, yeah, our plan was to go for two if we scored a touchdown, even though we didn't score a touchdown. Dan Campbell definitely would have gone for two.
Yeah, definitely. In thinking back to the Super Bowl and the cleanup that we have of it, it really just goes back to the overtime decision.
And there's one other play that stuck out when I was kind of going back through it all and watching it. It was in overtime when the 49ers had gone down to, I think Chris McCaffrey ran that ball to like the 19 second and two.
And remember when we were watching the game and we're like, Who's number number nine why is he on the field george kittle was back from being in the locker room he was ready to get back in christian mccaffrey had come out of the game because he needed a blow and why didn't kyle shannon use a time out there to be like hey we should have george kittle and christian mccaffrey on the field instead of elijah mitchell and the guy who got a holding penalty against him. Yeah.
They didn't even go Ray Ray. They passed over.
They took Ray Ray out of the game because Ray Ray was on fire at that point. They put that guy into block, and he committed just an egregious holding penalty.
And I also think that the other thing people were talking about a day later was Kyle Shanahan, his offense sputtering in the beginning of the second half when they could have really stepped on the Chiefs and they never really took that moment. I went back through.
People were like, oh, he abandoned the run. I never thought they fully abandoned the run.
They had some bad penalties to start a couple of those drives that put them in bad spots. And I don't know.
It just sucks. I don't think Kyle Shanahan is not going to get over this for a long time.
Yeah, this is a label that's going to wear on him. It is what he is at this point.
Until he wins a Super Bowl, we're just going to say, yeah, Kyle Shanahan is the guy that can't win a Super Bowl. And it sucks because he's a good coach.
But he did run up against Patrick Mahomes, who, by the way, I don't know if you saw this. Hank, you'll appreciate this appreciate this your good friend our dear friend mike florio um wrote an article praising patrick mahomes because he just set another all-time record in the super bowl oh most fumble recoveries oh ever in a super or in the super bowl by a single quarterback and so he has that record and that seems like a record it was didn't get tracked till like 2002 also is that just the bad bad snaps? It's a combination of bad snaps and also him having fumbles forced against him.

Yeah.

And he picks those up.

But was it like the three snaps that were so low that you had to pick them up off the ground?

I think that probably had a lot to do with it, yeah.

I was seeing people saying that the Chiefs recovered like six fumbles.

I don't remember that many fumbles.

If it just skips to you, is that a fumble?

Yeah.

Mike Flory also is trying to get Andy Reid to retire he is trying very hard yeah we kid mike we're joking he uh this is the end of we we joke like that we we just because we love yeah it's valentine's day mike we love you uh so by the way shout out to her valentine's day i think sorry miley i'm still i with her. Oh, you are? Yeah.
I've done a deep dive into her catalog today. Oh, nice.
Pretty impressive. Nice.
Deep dive. She really knows that.
Never mind. Okay.
So at the end of this article by Florio, he said, Does anybody think Mahomes won't be back to the Super Bowl? He's 28. He's only getting better.
He'll soon reach supercomputer status. Whoa.
Where he'll know what to do before each play starts. Oh.
I feel like he already has that. He's just becoming AI.
We've got AI Mahomes. Florio thinks he's going to start getting developed this offseason.
Yeah. I don't know, but I like the idea of a supercomputer quarterback.
Yeah, I do too. So supercomputer Mahomes.
Mm-hmm. Going to go after everyone.
It's going to get Neuralink. It looked like the party afterwards was very fun.
Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift were singing Taylor Swift songs. It was squad goals.
It was so fucking romantic. Me and who? What? If you're going to do Taylor Swift lyrics to me right now at this hour.
No, that's just girls seeing those videos being like, me and who? Me and who? Oh, like one day I'll find my Travis. Yeah.
Like I'm Taylor Swift. And who is my Hall of Fame tight end who just won his third Super Bowl? Oh, okay.
Yeah. Me and who? Goals, yeah.
It's honestly goals. It's big time goals.
I just... Something weird's going on with women in America right now.
Why? They think that they are too. Okay, wait, hold on.
Women in America... Hold on, hold on.
Okay. Let me just get my seat so I can go back a little.
Yeah. Go ahead.
All right, and I do have my gesturing pin out right now. Yeah.
Shout out, Pug. Shout out, Pug.
Shout out, Pug. Every woman in America thinks she's Taylor Swift.
Yes. That is a fact.
Yeah, it's a fact. They're living vicariously through Taylor Swift.
There will be guys that get plastic surgery to look more like Travis Kelsey so they can start dating women. And every guy is living vicariously through Travis because they just want to win a Super Bowl.
I'm not. No, Hank's right because they want to win a Super Bowl.
I feel like there was a little bit of time where I lived vicariously through Johnny Bananas. That was about it.
Yeah. Oh, I lived vicariously through Jackass.
Jackass, for sure. I was like, that's just me and my friends.
Yeah. Johnny Manziel.
Eh. Yeah.
At A&M? Yeah, I don't know. I guess living vicariously though i'm saying like johnny manzel was an incredible quarterback so it's like i'm not gonna be an incredible quarterback what's what is it even is a regular guy who just dominated the challenge like that could be me what do you think a real you know i was on real world we think the dude equivalent of taylor swift is like a guy that every dude goes nuts.
I think it's John Daly. It might be John Daly.
There was a TikTok thing saying it was Shane Gillis. Oh, yeah, that makes sense.
Shane is definitely, yeah. Every woman's like, I want to find true love and settle down and just be happy for the rest of my life.
Every dude's like, I want to get fucking hammered. Yeah.
All the time. It's like a perfect, it's the perfect rom-com whenever they have like the perfect 10 female lead.
And then like a kind of a gross pudgy male lead. And like, yeah, of course he's got them.
Yeah. I blame commercials for that.
I blame King of Queen. King of Queen sitcoms and commercials.
It's always. And Seinfeld.
Costanza had the fucking hottest girlfriends. He did.
Kramer got some babes too. Yeah.
But yeah, every commercial you see it's a big slubby guy with a hot

wife and he's like, Costanza had the hottest

girlfriend? He had hot girlfriends. Marissa Tomei

Dude, he had the fucking model. Remember he had

the model picture? Yeah, but that was one

episode and he had the picture and he lost it.

Oh, he had some hot girlfriends. It's kind of crazy

that Jerry didn't get AIDS.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean like I guess it was a little bit past his like early 90s, but he fucking slept around.
Yeah. He was very promiscuous.
There were definitely some. There was there was an episode that Larry David wrote about one of them getting an STD.
Yeah. What are you going to say, Max? I just wanted to make sure that everyone remember that you haven't slept for 15 hours.
Yeah. This is the Valentine's Day episode.
Hey, why didn't Jerry Seinfeld get AIDS? Maybe he did get AIDS, and that's why they cut the show short. Oh, that's true.
Maybe it was implied. It's like, well, we don't really know how to wrap this up.
He obviously has AIDS. Yeah.
Yeah. Wait, what are we talking about? We're talking about just frumpy dudes in commercials, and it's always a hot chick, and he's always, like, complaining about his nagging bitch wife who's way too hot for him.

I'm just picking my nose so hardcore on this.

I also just realized I said 15 hours.

That would be nine hours of sleep.

That's plenty balls.

No, I'm on – I mean, you guys are probably in the same boat, but off of the Vegas trip, it's like the last four days I maybe have slept a total of, like, nine hours total.

Yeah, it's pretty bad.

It's pretty bad.

Thank you. But off of the Vegas trip, it's like the last four days, I maybe have slept a total of like nine hours total.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad.
It's getting a little foggy up in the old dome. We do have another storyline from the Super Bowl we should probably talk about.
The ratings came out. Oh.
Turns out a lot of people watched the Super Bowl this year. Most watched? Most watched show of all time.
Wow. And it beat the moon landing.
Feels good to be part of history. Yeah, it does.
Pretty cool. We fucking watched.
We watched. We watched the one thing that everybody else watched.
Fuck yes. What are you laughing at? One of my favorite tweets of all time from Glennie Balls when he said, I've been up for 16 hours and traveled from Long Island at 4am.
Everyone. Everyone's up for 16 hours every day.
Yeah, Rona was like, that's a regular day, Glennie. 16 hours.
16 hours is what, 8 a.m. to midnight? Yeah, I'm up for 16 hours every day.
I'm literally up. I'm up 7 to 11 every single day no matter what.
I can't get my solid 10 hours of sleep tonight. It sucks.
That's incredible. What were we saying? Oh, it beat the moon landing.
112.4 million. Hey, you guys can't laugh at us because you said you wanted to do the podcast right now.
In your face, Moon. I love this.
This episode rocks. This episode does rock.
The moon kind of overrated, by the way. I think we've discussed that before on the podcast.
Yeah, I'd agree. Not made out of cheese.
Where does the moon have? Except for predicting Lions games. True.
Yeah, that's a valid point. Also, it used to protect us against asteroids.
That's why there's all those craters on there. Haven't seen an asteroid hit the moon in millions of years.
Worthless piece of shit. Yeah, it was supposed to be our fullback.
It was our fullback but the fullback got phased out we're running the spread offense now uh what else do we got what moon landing and uh the super bowl also both government psyops yeah something interesting to think about facts um oh let's let's read a couple headlines real quick and then we'll do hot seat jason kelsey also rocked at the after. That was my cool drone.
Oh, shit. That was my hot seat.
Victor Wimbanyama had a triple-double, and he had 10 blocks. Oh, fuck yes.
That rules. So not a bust.
Not a bust at all. Steelers released three players, including QB Mitch Trisky.
Oh, that sucks. Yeah.
That might be it for Mitch. If you love something, set it free.
I think that might be it for Mitch. you love something set it free I think that might be it for Mitch kill Williams had a GQ uh spread he did some spread some spread you can have them okay all right I'll take it listen I don't know man like I just said this might just be 3 a.m.
talking. I do want him on the Bears, but, like, you got to play in the NFL first, dude.
You got to know the pictures. Putting up a lot of bulletin board material on himself.
Well – In the last, like, full year. Yeah.
There's another draft pick that – Just get there and be good for a little bit, and then you can do anything you want. There's another draft pick that wore a dress in a photo shoot for a magazine.
Went by the name of Ricky Williams. That's true.
He turned out okay. Mike Dicka.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, Mike Dicka got married to Ricky Williams. Yeah.
Yeah. Legally.
Dennis Robbins also in a dress. By the way, Ricky's way hotter than Mike Dicka.
I don't know. Dicka was kind of hot back then.
Mid-2000s? Dicka was in his prime. That wasn't his prime, but in his prime, he he was a good looking dude.
No, I agree. Strong.
That's what men used to be. I agree.
I think the 70s, 80s, 90s Dicka, that's a guy. That's a man you can set your watch to.
2000s Dicka. He's a little chunkier.
No, thank you. 2010s Dicka, 2020s Dicka, hot again.
Yeah. Daddy.
Yeah, no, he was. Yeah, no, Dicka was.
That was what the strong men in the world look like. They all look like Dicka.
Okay. What else? What else we got? How about that D? He did, yeah.
That's good. Yeah.
Phoenix Open changed. They're going to change the rules because of this weekend.
All right, that makes sense. Not.
I don't like it. That was a good not.
Yeah. I fucking got everyone.
I bet you there was one person in the car who was like, oh, shit. They're in for it.
Not. I think you will see a complete operational change of how we manage really on our Friday and Saturday.
Not only on the Friday and Saturday, but the entire week. We're very proud of what we've built.
We've been the tournament of the year on on the pga tour five of the last seven years but we don't like what happened on saturday the players don't like what happened on saturday our fans don't like what happened on saturday and so nothing is off the table if you acted up like that at a live event what do you think they do hmm probably give you a lifetime contract cut your liver out yeah one or the other yeah that's kind of the two paths with the live events the bone saw or you get a billion dollar contract we should start our own golf league mandatory drunk fans we breathalyze you on the way in yeah yeah you have to be you have you cannot get into the golf uh match unless it's your you blow a point two or higher yep I like that like that. I like that a lot.
That would be great. Okay.
Anything else? Anything else from anyone about anything? Literally anything. We did Jerry Seinfeld as AIDS and the moon landing.
I think we're good. I think we covered all the sports.
We could talk about anything. We've talked about all the sports this morning.
I saw something about the 49ers players didn't know the rules. Yeah, they do.
We talked about that memes. I asked Max if we talked about that.
I missed that. Yeah, we did.
We did. They did not know the rules.
It confirmed yet again that we know ball. There's a lot of people who are saying we're stupid that the Niners defense was gassed.
No. They need to make that the regular season overtime rule.
I really don't understand. You know what, Jake? I think I agree with you because it's weird having different rules for overtimes.
And the excitement factor and the strategy and the risk involved, it's so different. And it's also more football.
Because it's such a gray area. There is no clear-cut decision on whether or not to get the ball or not.
Or they should just do college football overtime, which always has been the superior overtime. By far.
And there are some people out there that hate college overtime and think it makes a mockery out of the game. No, they go out there, they play football.
It's good football. Do you know what they should do? They should do college football overtime, no kicking.
Yeah. You just score a touchdown from the 25.
Like flag football. No.
What? No, no. Well, there's no kicking.
Is that what you're saying? No, I'm just saying everyone can hit a field goal in the NFL from 25.

It's like when you're playing flag football,

it's either you score a touchdown or you turn the ball over.

Yeah, it's flag football. Just no field goal.

Yeah, it's flag football.

Yeah.

You can still punt if you want to.

Yeah, you can punt if you want to.

There'll be some hilarious coaches.

I'm just saying you just only can score a touchdown.

Todd Bowles would figure out a way to punt in that overtime scenario.

Yeah.

Or maybe do the drop kick field goal.

Yeah.

Jake, everyone loved your halftime boomer.

Congratulations.

I'm glad it worked out.

It was awesome.

Thank you.

It was awesome.

Appreciate it.

What?

We got to get Jake in the booth.

Like the recording booth.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Singing some songs.

Doing a song.

I'll do it.

Oh, imagine if we had Jake do wet-ass pussy. He should.
We should actually make a song out of the Ray Allen tweet. Yeah.
Just called I'm Getting There. Yeah.
And we'll auto-tune the fuck out of you, Jake. We have that.
Great week song. Don't we always do a great week song? No, we have that song.
Take on me remix. No, but we should do an original song.
We'll use that tonight. The song is a banger.
Oh, my God. All right, let's do Hot Seat Cool Throne.
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We forgot to talk about Ice Spice doing devil worship. Oh, that's my hot seat.
Okay. My hot seat is love.
Why's that? Larsa Pippen and Marcus Jordan. Broke up? Broke up.
No. Fuck.
I don't know. Why would it happen? If they're not going to make it, I just don't know if anyone is in this world.
I know it's Valentine's Day, but just a huge bummer. I would always look at them and be like, me and who? Me and who? Like MJ and Scotty will talk again? They're probably like, hell yeah.
Yeah. No, probably not.
Yeah, no, probably not. We just nailed that enough and then my cool throne it would be very funny if like uh if he like texted him was like hey man now i get it like i'm sorry that was kind of fucked up on my part yeah i can see that now yeah or like marcus probably texted michael torman like yeah you were right probably shouldn't done have done that.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Good point.
Okay. And your cool turn? Jason Kelsey.
Absolutely blackout drunk at the after party. Looked like a two sodas guy.
Every clip he was wearing the. Was it Ray Mysterio? Yeah.
I think it was Luchador. I think it was Ray Mysterio.
Yeah. Which is a Luchador mask.
Yeah. Was it a Chiefs one? I think it was Chiefs colored, but it looked like a Rey Mysterio mask.
He was really... Every video was like the...
I mean, it was... Taylor Swift superfans, like, this is Taylor and Travis walking out, and it's literally just Jason Kelsey, blackout drunk, like, stumbling over himself on the way out.
I did not think that anything Jason Kelsey did for the entirety of the playoffs was weird. But going that hard at a Super Bowl party when you're in the NFL is a little weird.
But he's not. Why, it's a party.
He's not in the NFL? He's retired? Did he retire? Oh, yeah. I don't think he's retired.
No, you're right. He didn't file his paperwork.
No, he's retired. You're right.
Good point, Hank. He's retired.
Play on, playa. And he rocks.
I mean, tell me you didn't watch any of those videos and be like, I want to party with that guy more than anything in the world. No, I was like, that guy probably forgets to hit the button.
All right, fine. If you're going to say that guy is like me, that's the best compliment you've ever given me in my entire life.
Do you think maybe at the end of the night, they go back to their hotels, Jason Kelsey passes out in his bed, then wakes up in Taylor Swift's bed by accident? You guys can keep doing this. This is flattering.
This is so flattering. The video of them walking in the hotel and just pans over, and he literally falls into a bush Because he's so drunk he can't walk I walked a hundred times Do you think at any point in his career Jason Kelsey has been like Jalen Hurts I want to suck your dick My girlfriend did text me that video And be like okay I get it now Because I always say that I'm just like Jason Kelsey And she was like the parallels are there I'm kind, at the start of it, I was like, it's a little bit weird that he's going so hard for the Chiefs.
It is his brother. But at the Super Bowl after party, that's like, have you ever been over to a friend's house who's celebrating a holiday that you don't particularly care about? Yeah.
But you just get really wrapped up in it because you want to have fun? Yeah. Like if you go over to like a really Irish person's family on St.
Patrick's Day and you're like, fuck it, my family's 10% Irish. No, he was having a great time.
It's his brother. I get it.
He's the best. Yeah.
I was more just trying to bother Max, but I'm too. My brain can't even.
You ended up just complimenting me, like the best compliment you've ever given me. Yeah, this might be a reason why we need to sleep.
Yeah. Max can finally outsmart us.

Fuck.

I slept three hours last night, so.

Okay.

Yeah, but you, I mean, you're dumb.

Like, we just got into your level. The thing that's going to fuck me up for this entire next day is that the podcast isn't coming out for another full day.

Correct.

Yeah.

There's going to be something that happens.

If something happens, we're going to have to breaking news. I'm going gonna accidentally schedule the tweet to go out tuesday morning for sure yeah uh okay uh pft your hot seat cool throat uh my hot seat is humanity oh i'm putting all humanity on the hot seat uh because i read an article today that the bubonic plague is back so they found it in oregon somebody caught it from their cat i don't know that you could i i don't know i had that i don't know yeah watch out matt eberflus yeah be real shame if he came down with it but yeah that's just maybe a reminder don't get a cat another booster coming another booster coming they're getting us again yeah oh isn't that election season oh how about that interesting gas prices coming down at just the right time.
Oh, interesting.

That'd be awesome if Joe Biden was in his office.

He's like, we got to bring the plague back.

That's the only way I get reelected.

Wait, what was that?

I was hit Joe Biden muttering.

Listen, Jack, I can't do a Joe Biden. Yeah, that was like, yeah.

I wasn't even trying to do a Joe Biden.

That was my Belichick.

Yeah, that was Belichick.

So Belichick's in the White House.

Bush or Belichick?

I'm Joe Biden. We're on to 2024.
We're on to Trump. What was the tweet? His tweet yesterday after the Super Bowl.
It was Dark Brandon. That was the Dark Brandon meme.
Yeah, that was fucking weird as shit. What does that mean? He was saying, Joe Biden was saying all the people out there that think that I put together Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey as a psyop and that they were going to win the Super Bowl because I want to get reelected.
I did it. That was my idea and it worked.
That's what he was saying. Just like we drew it up.
Okay. I might have to go out and shoot some free throws, boys.
This is going to be bad because they're going to yell at me so bad if I have to go out and shoot free throws and I was sitting here. They're going to be mad.
What's going on? They're getting there. Switching back and forth? Yeah, it's our song.
Yeah, they're getting there. All right, you're a cool throne.
My cool throne is Taco Bell. Taco Bell on the cool throne because they did a hilarious, awesome menu explanation.
It was like the unveiling, like Apple does for their new products, where they have all the weird Apple fanboys and Jeff D. Lowe in the audience just screaming themselves.
Yep and uh taco bell did one for the new menu items which was awesome it was this dude giving like a ted talk in front of a massive uh audience showing the new products that are coming out let me just say that the cheese it crunch wrap looks elite yes it looks i without tasting it i can tell you that's probably on my mount rushmore of taco bell foods yes hank would probably wouldn't be on hanks because his mount rushmore taco bell foods sucks uh but it but all taco bell foods are mount rushmore yeah but a giant cheese they invented a big ass cheese it to put in the middle of a crunch wrap just when you thought science couldn't go any further yeah it looks incredible and they've got i think they got like a baja blast pie yeah oh and they got the new green salsa we got to go out there what are they down to there i think dave just i think just they've they've got, I think they've got like a Baja Blast pie. Yeah.
Oh, and they've got the new green salsa. We've got to go out there.
What are they down to? I think Dave just hit the 30. Let's go.
We've got to go. God.
Okay, we're back. And holy shit.
So if you're following along, we just ran out of the room in the middle of the podcast. It was 3 o'clock in the morning because we were doing this 41 free throw challenge.
And it was my turn. I was up on 39 and 40.
Well, I choked. Missed 39.
Back to zero. We're now sitting here.
Seven hours later, I just hit 39 and 40. Dave hit 41.

We're free.

We did it.

We did it, Joe.

We did it.

Incredible.

PFT, incredible rebounding.

Jake got the ringer to show up.

Max, memes, the boys stayed up.

Everyone stayed up all night throughout the whole challenge.

It was really a team effort by everyone.

No one slept.

I actually, so I walked into the studio because i had to i had to grab my cell phone uh in the middle of the shooting and i saw a mass over to over in the corner kind of huddled up and i looked over and it was a body it was a human body and it was covered in a blanket and when i say covered in a blanket i mean it was covered in a blanket head to toe like blanket but it you know what it was hank but at first i thought i walked into the heaven's gate cult yeah and i thought that it was just filled with bodies because all i saw was nike sticking out of the bottom yeah um but no it was our sweet dear henry lockwood over there passed out of the corner i also came in here and i i what you are thinking of the wrong person what no that was memes that was in the corner that was memes wait memes in the corner yes hank was on the couch hank was on the couch memes was in the corner oh passed out memes you freaked you sleep like that every night no the lights were on wait i didn't know there were two bodies in here i came in saw Hank. I actually, Hank was so out cold because I came in to get my keys and I had my cell phone flashlight and I turned it and it literally shone right in Hank's face, like directly in Hank's face.
Did not flinch at all. Little baby just kept on sleeping.
Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah.
I don't know really what to think we have not we have still not slept well these are some of my favorite shows because we uh we just kind of get drunk off not sleeping yeah so the shows get loopy we make less sense maybe we're smarter yeah maybe we're smarter and and so it was a crazy crazy 16 hours so what was the final shot counter jake do you have it i'll look i wait i have it i have it it was a crazy, crazy 16 hours. So what was the final shot counter?

Jake, do you have it?

I'll look.

Wait, I have it.

I have it.

It was 7,608 shots, 16 hours.

It was hell.

We were just out there grinding.

I think I came close to making 1,000 free throws.

I think I attempted like 2,000. So and 40, so I, I was terrible.
My body's broken. I was trying to hit the first two of the whole thing so that I didn't have to hit the pressure shots.
Unfortunately, I had to leave for 35 minutes to go get my son from my house and bring him to school. And then when I got back, literally walked in the door and we were like at like 35.
Yeah. And I knew that it was going to be me.
And I had already missed it last time. You were like 10 minutes ago in the podcast.
I already missed 39 and 40. I was basically shitting myself.
Like, how could I do this? Did you have to explain to your son at all what you were doing? Did you try and like, sorry, I haven't been home, son.

No.

Daddy's had to hit some free throws. Daddy was working the line.
Well, it was important that he got to school so that he could get education and learn that don't do this. Be a real contributing member of society, not a podcaster.
I would say the drive to school um i think i told my son probably 15 times that i love him so much because i was like dad's going back to jail in a minute so like i may never see you again i kept on being i you know i love you so much like i love you so much i love you but you also know that daddy's an influencer i like this these these five minutes I have with my son here are the most precious five minutes because I'm going directly back to jail and I may never get out. It was a good time with the boys, though.
It was a really good time. We're saying that now.
The vibes, they were high. We had a great time.
Everybody involved was excited. We were into it.
Great camaraderie, team building. Wouldn't trade it for the world.
No. I'm so fucking glad it's done.
I'm so glad it's done. We're all the Popeyes meme, the exhausted chicken sandwich worker.
I thought there was no chance we were ever going to get out. I thought we were just going to be fucked.
We were going to be fucked forever. It also would have been funny if we were not allowed to leave the room, eat or drink, and we all just died in that room trying to make free throws.
Well, there was, I mean, listen, I want to take a break from these challenges after needle in a haystack this was dumber by the way dumber by the way needle in a haystack was stupid as shit this was a million times way dumber but i will say that these challenges they're so so like taxing on just your mentals and everything but there there is a part of you that is hanging out with the boys. I think we ordered 17 different types of food.
Yeah, we got chicken. We got a bunch of McDonald's.
We got McDonald's breakfast and McDonald's dinner within an hour of each other. Yep.
And we got blizzards, and we got everything. It was not fun, but it was fun.
So when we started the stream, it was myself, Nick, and KB doing the broadcast of the event. And we were like, yeah, this is a good idea.
Maybe it'll be over in like an hour or two. You don't have a lot to commentate and talk about during a free throw shooting contest.
Correct. Especially after it reaches hour number four.
And then KB had to go to the hospital for butt surgery. So Nick had to drive him.
So unfortunately, they had to leave. Damn.
Thoughts and prayers to KB. He's getting a butt transplant today.
He's getting the Brazilian. Okay.
So thank you, everyone, for watching. That was incredible.
Everyone. We had like 20,000 people watching it at four in the morning.
It was nuts. So always incredible to watch all the people tuning in and and just being like holy fuck shout out pat bev yes he was he's got a game he's got a game he has he's he had a game and has a game he's in between two games yeah literally in between two games he had yeah he had 24 hours in between two games he came down to chicago to to pump up the boys yeah so appreciate So appreciate Pat Bev.
Okay, my hot seat. What was it supposed to be, Hank? Ice Spice? I didn't prepare.
Is she on the hot seat? Deebo's on the hot seat. Who? Deebo Samuels.
Fletcher Cox owned his ass on Instagram. Oh, I just know that you said Ice Spice.
I said, no, that's my hot seat. Don't ruin it, but I don't have a hot seat.
It's more a hot seat God. God.
Ice Spice was doing devil worshiping signs. Gross.
Was she doing devil or was she doing the rock? I think devil. Yeah.
Wait, what happened with Debo? After the Niners game, Fletcher Cox had an Instagram story that said, 19 problems is Debo's Instagram handle. Keep the Eagles out your mouth, B-O-E.
I don't know what that means. I still got something y'all ain't got.
Yeah, I've been holding on to this. Eat a dick.
Wait, that's just sad, Max. Why? I love that.
Why is Fletcher Cox going at Debo? Because fuck Debo. Because he said that if they had their quarterback, they would have beaten you guys last year? No, he was talking shit.
He said the secondary trash, which it was. Fletcher Cox is like, yo, bitch, we lost to the Chiefs by less points than you.
Yeah, but you guys went to overtime. He was saying that he had a super Bowl ring.
Yeah. Okay.
And then he doesn't. It was just fair.
Yeah. That is fair.
He does have a Super Bowl ring. Make a quote card out of that.
Yeah, bitch, we lost the Super Bowl by less points than you. That's not what it is.
Dash. Literally.
Fletcher Cox probably. By one point less.
That's not. That's just not a quote.
That's not a quote. I'm paraphrasing.
That's not a quote. It's work.
All right. My cool throne is vacation.
We can go on our vacations. Let's go.
That was scary. So pretty much the second that last shot went in, I got a notification saying you can check in for your flight.
And I thought to myself right before Dave hit that shot, well, I'm not going to use that. I'm not going to click that link.
Listen, this vacation, I need it so, so bad. and the fact that it was in jeopardy

really really makes us embrace this might be the best vacation ever yeah let's have the let's have

the best vacation week ever guys yeah because it really we almost didn't have it we were that close

uh all right Jake your hot seat cool thrown my hot seat is people who don't think that people

can hit 41 free throws in a row. Yeah.

Facts.

Sean Quigley.

Losers.

They were wrong.

Yeah.

Even if it took 16 hours.

They were wrong.

I'm on team Kristen Juszczyk.

Fuck wigs.

Yeah.

Fuck wigs.

Yeah.

My cool throne is friend of the program, recurring guest, JJ Redick.

He got an in-season promotion, and he's taking over for Doc Rivers.

He will be calling the NBA Finals. Oh.
That the NBA Finals with Mike Breen and Doris Burke. That's a big step up for JJ.
Also, big step underneath a much bigger, not a microphone, magnifying glass. Microscope for JJ Redick.
That's going to be a great booth. Was the Jeff Van Gundy firing the weirdest, dumbest thing ever in retrospect? Well, it's part of the ESPN layoffs, right? Yeah, I understand.
But like Jeff Van Gundy, everyone likes Jeff Van Gundy. What? Good for the Celtics.
Why? He's a coach on the staff now. Oh.
And what was... Or he's like an assistant.
He's a... Mark Jackson, I don't realize.
Well, the only reason I like Mark Jackson knock it out of the park no disrespect the only reason I like Mark Jackson is because it's soothing to hear him say Jeff Van Gundy yeah hand down man down Jeff Van Gundy Jeff Van Gundy so now JJ Reddick's gonna just be be like, they're in zone, Doris.

That sounds good.

That's a good catchphrase.

That was some great high-screen action, Doris.

Oh, sick.

Yeah, happy for J.J.

Good job, J.J. I'm also going to miss Mark Jackson just because he really dumbed it down

to a level that was even too dumb for most people that were watching. J.
reddick's he might be too intelligent yeah for sure he's a smart guy dukey dukey uh okay he's also got that championship pedigree at duke when all those natties there yeah true oh damn didn't happen uh okay let's get to our interview3, great interview. Before we get to RG3, I want to talk to you about our friends from Raising Cane's.
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Okay, here he is, RG3. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, Heisman Trophy winner, Washington Redskin, now Commanders.

You can see him on TV all the time with his takes.

It is Robert Griffin III, RG3.

We've been looking forward to this for a very long time, so thank you for coming by.

No problem, no problem.

We appreciate it.

PFT probably has a lot more detailed questions because he was, obviously, you were his quarterback for a while. quarterback for a while right um but i'll start with an easy one okay can you still play in the nfl yes are you retired technically no okay i have not put in my paperwork or you know signed my anything with like the trust or anything like that i've done that on purpose yeah because

i didn't want to have to do it twice but no i just train every week like i'm a player and then if i

get the call i'm ready to roll i got calls this year i just it wasn't worth it you guys know how

this goes at some point it does become a business for you too and and what i've been able to do

on espn and i gotta like make the right business moves and decisions but no i can still play i

still want to play i'm not afraid to say that and i encourage everybody out there to you know

Thank you. on ESPN and I got to like make the right business moves and decisions but I can still play I still want to play I'm not afraid to say that and I encourage everybody out there to you know don't be afraid to talk about your dreams yeah people laugh at you I definitely I am retired from the NFL no I'm yet to retire okay all right if I get a call like I'm ready to go my leg's still good I'm good from 30 um but yeah you were telling me that the the Jets you, if they call me, you would have picked up that call.
Correct. It was the Jets and the Browns, honestly.
Now, I actually put out a post about why the Browns should have signed me, and then they went and signed Joe Flacco. And it was like, well, that's a pretty good signing.
You know, Joe Flacco, Super Bowl MVP, got a lot of respect for the guy. So I wasn't mad about that.
And then you see so many guys went down this year. you know joe flacco super bowl mvp uh got a lot of respect for the guy so i wasn't mad about that um and then you see so many guys went down this year you know from a starting quarterback perspective it was crazy yeah it was kind of wild but you know then those teams have to make a decision right they could go after a guy like myself they can go get a guy like cam newton but like how long are you making that commitment and are you really trying to are they were they really trying to win games right was really the question so the jets was an interesting one i thought for sure they should have went and go go get joe yeah like joe was just there like go get him pick him up and give him an opportunity look what he did with the browns but um some teams are willing to lose this year and that's okay yeah so you're still fast you still got the legs still got the arm yeah i ran a 4-2-8 you beat that Eagles beat the bird.
Yeah, the bird. Remember when you? 4-2-5.
4-2-5. Last year, so.
So you're faster than you've ever been.

I'm faster than you've ever been. Was that hand-timed? It was hand-timed.
Okay, what was the wind like that day? The wind was horrible. Okay.
It was a headwind. It was crazy.
On a track? It was not on a track. It was on a football field.
Okay. But they actually went back and recorded or timed it on the camera, and then it was a 4-3-8.
Okay, so all So we'll go with 4.38. We'll go 4.38.
I'm cool with that. Listen, that's faster than I've ever been to.
We're just keeping you honest. Yeah, yeah.
I appreciate it. What can you run a 40 in? I don't know.
Probably about a minute and a half. I did one two weeks ago for an advertisement.
I ran a 4.4. He's lying, right? Okay, hand up.
It was less. It was 39.
It was 39 yards. It was 39 yards.
And then you ran a 4-4. Yeah, it was 39 yards.
You can see it. PFT, you ran a 4-4.
Clay Harbor was instructing me. He was my coach.
He timed it. 4-4.
It might have been like 30 yards. We've all had a coach that's like, you know, tried to boost us a little oh yeah you threw that 75 yards you're special yeah it was like a 35 yard throw question i have for you though before we keep going you mentioned the name right yeah how do you feel about the the team name commanders yeah i think it's a terrible name yeah i think it's an awful name man like nobody was excited about it it when it came out.
I instantly wished it was still football team. I agree.
It makes me miss football team. The football team felt more exotic.
Yes. And I think it was like the simplicity of it actually was cool.
Even though people made fun of it at first. Like, hey, who do you play for? The football team.
But it's like football. But then it's what you are.
You think of like European soccer. Right, right, right.
With the commanders, it's like, okay, we're the commies. Yeah, commies.
We're the commies. Great.
And it's so weird. Like with a football team, you can talk yourself into it.
You can be like, yeah, football, this is a tough masculine sport. We don't need a cartoon bird, you know, as our mascot.
We're a football team. No pigeons.
No pigeons. So, yeah, I don't like that.
I think that they're probably going to change it back. Really? Well, maybe not back to football team, maybe for like a year football team.
But I think it's not going to be commanders long term. Because if you've seen Josh Harris, I kept an eye on this all year.
Josh Harris, he always wears the Washington hat, right, with the W on it? Yes. I've never seen him wear commanders on his shirts.
And he always wears like a generic burgundy sweater. That is true.
Or a burgundy polo. And he's like going out of his way not to wear that word so i think he said he's been on it like this is he's he's been on this is my super he's he's been watching i think i've seen everything he wears i don't know if it's a conspiracy theory i think you there might be some truth to to what you're saying yes i was team red wolves i don't know what i like red hogs too i think the hogs Red Hogs would be awesome.
Red Hogs would be great. Hogs play football.
Yes, they do. Like, you can see it.

And it's into the name. Yeah, it's like a history.
We have the Hogs, the offensive line group there. So I thought that was a perfect segue into that name, but they went with Commanders.
Dan Snyder said, I'm going to get you guys one more time. Exactly.
That was his double middle fingers on the way out. I'm going to give you guys the worst name in the history of sports.
Enjoy it, assholes. Now Stephen A's calling us the Commodores on first day.
Easy like Sunday morning. There you go.
So I do want to talk about your history with the Redskins. So when you were drafted, I'm not exaggerating when I say this, made me fall back in love with football again wow your rookie year I was at your first game okay in New Orleans and it was cool because like in New Orleans you got family from there and uh the Saints fans are obviously no they're they care a lot about their team they do but after the game I was just like I was on cloud nine because I'm like holy shit I got a quarterback for the next 12 15 years and like i could see everything going really well right and uh we walked into this daiquiri bar afterwards and it's filled with saints fans right okay and so it's me and two of my buddies we're the only white guys in there we walk into the daiquiri bar and it was a record scratch moment because everyone's wearing saints uniforms we're wearing redskin stuff and they just stare at us and we're like i don't know if this is like a cool place to be and then they started clapping and then everyone started standing up and clapping and they're like we love robert he's got family here he played a hell of a game like we have to take our hats off and so at that point i was like you know what like i've been through a lot of bad football with this team But now it's like things are fun again.
And so that rookie year meant a lot. I wouldn't have started writing about football if it wasn't for that.
Because I saw people starting to hate you. And so I started that Twitter account in a way.
So it was making fun of random internet commenters. And I was like, I'm going to figure out how tobert griffin the most like making fun of those guys he did he definitely did yeah but so so it was it was a satirical take on some of the dumbest people online right and i was like going over the top and i remember at one point you blocked me i did yeah i definitely blocked yeah i definitely blocked because i think you unveiled like your new logo and I was like you know who else had a logo Hitler Like not an actual I remember that It was pretty wild So we got off to a rocky start and I was like damn my favorite football player in the world Okay let me put it this way Let me attack this In every angle So first of all i you were getting a little emotional yeah i was because it was like it was it did make me fall back in love the football you're getting emotional there and uh can i give you a hug like can we can we hug it out yeah he didn't mean to call you hitler seriously now pft knows this because we've we've been talking recently over the past couple years, and, like, you mentioned about the blocking.
Like, really early in my career was, like, the first time when, like, players were really being exposed to social media in a drastic way. And some of that stuff, it can get to you.
Yeah. So, like, for me, it was like, all right, this guy's, like, going way over the top, trying to comment on every single thing and every move that I'm kind of making.

Let me just block him, not because I hate the guy,

but just because I just don't want to see it.

Yeah.

You know, like let me just move past that.

But you bring up the Saints game and the fact that a lot of people don't know that my family is from New Orleans.

Like my dad has seven brothers and sisters.

My mom and dad were both born and raised in New Orleans, Louisiana.

So that game meant a lot to me to be able to start my career there. And kind of what you talked about, it was a little bit of the hope that, like, the whole city of D.C.
felt when I first came there and was able to play at a high level. And that hurt me the most.
Like, I kind of felt like I had let the fans down by the time, you know, with all the injuries and everything that happened there in D.C. I felt like I had let some of my teammates down, like London Fletcher.
I've told this story before. He was my locker mate.
And he came back in 2013 just to try to win a Super Bowl. Like he knew he was done playing.
Like he couldn't do it at the level that he wanted to anymore, but he came back, and we bombed that year. I think we were four and 12.
So kind of that hope that you're saying that you got from me being there, it wasn't just from me. Obviously it was also from the team and what we had put together that year in 2012.
Alfred Morris. Alfred Morris at running back.
I mean, you're talking about Pierre Garcon at wide receiver. We had Fred Davis who was balling out at tight end.ulson was catching was catching some touchdowns for us there so um i think that part of it hurt me the most was i felt like i let you guys down so that hug was as much for me as it was for you but i've moved past that now and and obviously we're doing you know great things now how much do you think uh things that have gone different if if the redskins at the time just had a good good grass management? Oh, I mean, the grass is horrible.
I wasn't the only guy that got hurt there. Yeah.
I believe, I think either Reggie Bush got hurt there. Adrian Peterson, I know, got hurt there.
Yep. Joe Burrow.
Joe Burrow got hurt there. There was such an emphasis on making money that they were going to rent that stadium out for concerts and everything in between.
And the grass management wasn't that great. It was like we were playing in the sand.
Yeah, no, I remember the slow-mos of that playoff game and you trying to cut. And it's like, that's a lot of sand that's getting kicked up right there.
Before the game, somebody did like a walk across the field and it was sand that had just been painted green yeah it was like that's not this is not a good environment for a football game especially with a quarterback that's got it was an mcl right i had a uh an lcl so so the first injury when haloti nada literally destroyed my leg on that hit uh was an lcl injury which is this you know this ligament that goes along the side i still can't feel that to this day um but then i ended up tearing my acl maybe i think i told my acl in the first quarter um and i obviously played for the rest of the game which i shouldn't have done should have been pulled out uh i should have pulled myself out too like but we're warriors right we're out there it's fight or flight we're gonna fight um but you know that that injury certainly set my career back obviously altered my career in in many ways and i shouldn't have played in 2013 yeah at all do um looking back on it i remember you did like the all-in for week one yep going into 2013 to me when i saw that i was like i i hope i hope he doesn't like come back early because of part of this like marketing initiative because i think it it was with Gatorade or something at the time, right? It was with Adidas. Adidas, yeah.
It felt like it put more pressure on you to come back. A lot of people said that, but I didn't necessarily feel that way.
Name me one player who got hurt at the end of the year, who wasn't all in to come back and play week one the next year. The marketing campaign that was put on by Adidas, I didn't feel like it put any more pressure on me.
It's just when you're the starting quarterback in Washington, D.C., and the team just won the division for the first time, and I don't know, was it 13 years or something like that, in 2012, yeah, everything you do at that point is going to be magnified. So was Carson Wentz all in when he got hurt for week one yeah he was all in and he played yeah uh was Joe Burrow all in for week one when he came back after his ACL hell yeah and he played I shouldn't have played but it was because my knee injury was a lot more complex and significant than even I knew at the time but But that campaign had nothing to do with it.

So I appreciate you bringing that up.

Yeah.

Because I haven't really talked about it,

but there's not a marketing campaign out there

that's going to make a player go play

because they feel like, well, darn,

if I'm all in for week one and I don't play week one,

was I really all in?

Like, no.

Everybody's all in to come back from their injuries.

It just so happened that people latched on to that,

I feel like, because I was the quarterback

for the Redskins at the time.

So the knee injury, like, was there ever a point maybe a year or two down the line where you're like, wait, my knee is never going to feel, like, 100%? Could you feel, like, how different it was? You're like, my superpowers have been diminished a little bit. Yeah, I mean, superpowers.
We're superheroes like yeah we all feel like we're superheroes don't get me wrong yeah but it's kind of funny when you don't play like you you re-evaluate everything right so 2015 right i got the stinger in the preseason game got the they called it a concussion wasn't a concussion got cleared from the concussion then unclear that's a whole other bag of worms yeah conspiracy theory that we can unpack at some point but uh that year I didn't play a snap so I actually went back and I watched the 2013 tape and I was just like oh my gosh like I had the big knee brace on I wasn't as mobile as I had been before yeah was it Texans week one? Exactly. Yeah.
It was just not – it wasn't Texans week. Texans was 2014.
That was week one. It was the Philadelphia Eagles.
Remember, came out. Mike Vick was the quarterback for the Eagles.
We came out with the flag, and it was a great thing. Like, we were back.
Let's go do it. And then we got mollywhopped.
Yeah, Chip Kelly changed the NFL for one game. He changed the NFL for one game.
100%. Yeah, one game.
No, I remember after that game, it was like, how is anyone going to defend us? And I was like, well, we'll just defend it. So, I mean, listen, you can't trade away all your best players and still be successful.
So getting rid of Shady and Deshaun Jackson and then Mike, that's not the way to win games. We're going to get slower.
Let's get rid of all of our dynamic players. We're going to play fast, but we're going to run the offense through Riley Cooper.
Oh, man, Riley Cooper. That's a great name.
That's a great name. But, no, the whole thing of going back and watching that in 2015 um like let me see it for myself like i had watched that tape already but i've got boatloads of time i'm not just breaking down the team we're playing to help kurt cousins uh in the meeting room but i'm like well what else can i do to try to get better let me go back and watch some of these things watch some of my mistakes and i just came away from watching that tape in 2013 disgusted.
That's interesting because we've talked to players before where we've had that same kind of question, like when did you know that it was different, whether it be injury or age? And a lot of them have said something similar that you don't really know while you're playing. But when you watch it, you're like, who is that guy? Who is that guy? Yeah, like that's not me.
Yeah, and I figured out a way to manage it and become somewhat efficient there in 2013. Nowhere near as well as we played in 2012.
But just going back and watching it, I was like, yeah, I shouldn't have played at all in 2013. Gave myself a full year of just watching tape and watching the team know building those bonds with my teammates as opposed to I was on the side working out for like what felt like eight months right didn't get to practice didn't get to really do a whole bunch of stuff and that doesn't really put you in the best spot to go out and be successful but the bottom line is I did play yeah right and what you put on tape is how they're going to judge you and that's why it went that way so then you show up in 2014, and now you bring in Jay Gruden as the head coach, and I think I got hurt that game, like first game of the year, and I'm out for eight games or whatever it may be.
That's tough. You're hurt.
You're not available. You're not getting to develop.
You're not getting to play. You're not getting to build that trust.
And I came to that realization in 2017 when I was out of the league. So you realize things when you have unlimited time on your hands.
You can go back and reflect and be like, damn, okay. Maybe some of the stuff that happened was just like, damn, I wish that would happen a different way.
But the bottom line is it didn't work out in Washington because I just couldn't stay healthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Going back to your college career, I guess your high school career before that, is it true that mac brown recruited you to be a safety at texas yeah so i actually called mac a mac game this year with drake may uh in north carolina against clemson and i talked to him about it and he's got a different recollection of how it all went down but the bottom line is at that time in 2007 2008 like if texas offered you a scholarship like you went yeah there was no debating They walk in the building and they go to your coach and say, hey, we want to offer this guy as an athlete because that's what he offered me as. He offered me as an athlete.
If you don't take this offer, it's off the table. I said, well, coach, I want to play quarterback, so I'm going to decline the athlete offer here.
Now, it wasn't Mac. It was the recruiting coordinator.
I don't know his name. I'm sure he doesn't work with Mack anymore either.

After all the quarterbacks that he missed out on. He also did that to Johnny Manziel.

He did it to Johnny.

I think he was like, you can play safety maybe.

You can play safety.

So it's like, he walks out and he said, well, offers off the table.

They weren't even there to offer me.

They were there for a guy named Tanner Brock.

That's a great name.

It's an unbelievable name.

And he was a linebacker.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

So middle linebacker, he was a sophomore. His brother was our tight end, Great player.
Went to TCU. What was his brother's name? Logan Brock.
That's a great tight end name. It's a great tight end name.
So they show up and they're like, hey, who's this quarterback? And I'm like, oh, awesome. Yeah, we think you can be an All-American safety.
Safety. I'm like, okay, well, thanks, Coach.
I'll pass on that.

But Mac was great about it.

You know, if the transfer portal today was there in 2008, 2009,

I don't want to say I don't know if I'd have stayed at Baylor,

but Mac offered me a scholarship in the middle of the field my freshman year

in college.

Wow.

We had Texas.

Texas was highly ranked.

They had Colt McCoy, right?

We had them 20-20 at halftime. Now, they kicked our ass.
They beat us 42-20. We didn't score a point in the second half.
But in the middle of the field, after the game, Matt comes up to me and says, we really missed on you, didn't we? I'm like, well, I'm not going to be like, yeah, you missed on me. I'm like, oh, thanks, Coach.
I appreciate the love. And he says, you want to come to Texas, you can come anytime you want.
Wow. That had to feel good.
It did feel good. Yeah.
And I told my coach and coach said, yeah, fuck him. Yeah, yeah.
I'll be pissed off if I were him. Yeah.
Like, mind your own players, buddy. Exactly.
I mean, but staying at Baylor was great. You win a Heisman.
You're the only Baylor player to win a Heisman. It feels like that program from what you did there, their growth from there.
I mean, don't they have a new stadium and everything and everything I'm not saying it directly from you but it feels like a lot of it is because of what you did at Baylor yeah I mean I tell guys this all the time you know I went to Baylor thinking like Baylor just got beat like 76 to 14 by Oklahoma State right so when I committed to Baylor everyone in my high school is like yo, yo, what are you doing? You got Texas, you got A&M, you got Oregon, you've got Florida State, all these schools coming after you. Why are you going to Baylor? And I'm like, well, I kind of want to play all three sports.
I want to play basketball, run track, and play football. And Coach Browse at the time told me, he said, you can come here and do something that's never been done before.
And he believed that we could win the Heisman and that we could do all the things that we did so um the gratitude I have towards Baylor is more about the guys that were there when I first got there yeah I show up I'm fast everyone knows I'm a fast guy and I'm like the 20th fastest guy on the team that's crazy and as a as a I went to college at 17 so as a 17 year old I'm like cow, these guys are super talented. Am I going to be able to be that guy at the college level? And I'm at Baylor, and they just got their asses whipped by 50.
And what I learned was that in college, all these colleges have great players. It's about building that culture of winning.
And it took us time to do that, to go from what we were doing to now seeing what Baylor became over those years and then what it's been up and down over the last couple years has been nothing but enjoyable. But it wasn't just me.
Well, yeah, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that you had a big part in building that. They put a statue there.
They put a statue of you in front of the stadium. Not the coolest statue.
The coolest statue you ever had was the subway one. Oh, my God.
You remember the subway statue? Oh, yeah. That was weird.
Now, let's be honest here, okay? It was pretty creepy. It was very creepy.
When I showed up, I was like, oh, my God. My hair was like jalapenos.
I think it was like olives. Olives was like some of the hair, the facial hair.
It was honestly unbelievable because they told me like, hey, we got a surprise for you.

And I'm like, what is it?

It's a sandwich that looks like you.

It's like, okay, guys, well, I'm not eating it.

I'm not eating this sandwich.

But, no, that was an interesting time.

Obviously, we're all content creators. We're all in this space.

They were definitely searching and trying to find something that hit,

and it did not hit.

It did not hit. Trying to get people to stop talking about Jared.
They're like, I know what we can do to make the ugliest start RG3. We don't want to talk about that guy.
It worked, which they shouldn't. Let's be honest here.
Let's get them to talk about RG3 and the sandwich that looks like him. My face was made out of sourdough or something.
There's a lot of stuff that I like to talk about about those Redskins teams because, again, it was a very impactful time for me as a fan. And there was so much being written about you.
It was like they realized that anything that they wrote about Robert Griffin and the Washington Post, it's going to be a big story no matter what. And there was a lot of back and forth, back and forth about what happened that that rookie year where you wanted to protect yourself you didn't want to run the ball and after getting hit by Haloti Nata where you know your leg wraps around the side of his body I think it's a pretty reasonable uh thing to to say but there's a lot of back and forth of like I want to be a pocket passer and then Mike Shanahan didn't want to adjust his offense or Kyle didn't want to adjust his offense.
And honestly, I have no idea what the truth was. Right, right.
So after that season, what were the conversations like with you and the coaching staff? Yeah, you want the truth. The truth.
Yeah, capital T. You want the truth or the capital T.
Stand on business. Stand on business.
All right, so listen, a lot of the stuff, and when I say a lot, like if somebody said, hey, RG33 was 14 of, I don't know, 22 for 105 yards, a touchdown and a pick.

Like that's a fact, right?

That's in the stat sheets.

You can't argue that.

Now you can manipulate or talk about how you feel that person played in that game or whatever.

But once it became like personal attacks, that's where it was like for me and my family, I was like, I don't know how to handle this.

Thank you. that game or whatever but once it became like personal attacks that's where it was like for me and my and my family i was like i don't know how to handle this because i had never experienced anything quite like that so to your point um where there's a guy like rob parker who actually worked at espn at the time um you know saying what he said about me calling me a cornball brother which is just ridiculous but uh and making claims about like you know my political affiliations or Or it may be it was like it was it was it was open season on let's try to dissect robert griffin iii in as many possible ways as we can so to answer your question flat out about mike and kyle it wasn't about me wanting to be a pocket passer.
Name a quarterback who does not want to be a pocket passer. Like, that's not, it wasn't a valid statement.
The issue there in Washington wasn't about pocket passer or running. It was more so about what are we asking from me? You know, I had this conversation with Mike Vick on my show on RG3 and the Ones, and they said, listen, if we call quarterback draw on third and 15, just tell me what you're trying to accomplish.
Like, do you want me to go get 16 yards? Right. Because if you want me to go get 16 yards, I'm going to go get 16 yards.
Right. And in my rookie year, I took a bunch of hits on those types of plays going to get those 16 yards.
So after the season, we had we talked about and they said no we just want you to get positive yards and protect yourself so the conversation wasn't hey let's not run this play let's not run that play the conversation was about coach I want to know what you what you're asking from me right and once I know that boom I can protect myself and I can do that now what I will say is that um when it comes to to coaches and players. Bro, you're asking from me.
Right. And once I know that, boom, I can protect myself and I can do that.
Now, what I will say is that when it comes to coaches and players, probably you guys as well, everybody's got an ego. And at the end of the day, it's about managing those and having good relationships.
And for whatever reason, because of the injury, because of the injury, it made Mike and Kyle look a certain way, and they did not like that right and there was there was honestly nothing i could do about that immediately after the game i'm sure you guys can probably find it somewhere uh they asked me hey did you want to come out the game and i had mike's back and i said no i wanted to play i wanted to be out there i want to do this i want do that. But because of that onslaught of, it was bad.

I remember that onslaught of the media attacking your head coach,

even though I had his back and said, no, I wanted to do this.

I wanted to do that.

It didn't, that burned the relationship really, really bad.

And it made it to the point where it was like, all right, F that guy.

And I didn't like that.

Mike Shanahan was my dream coach. Yeah.
I was a Bronco fan growing up, right? John Elway, Shannon Sharp. I knew the damn center.
Tom Naylan. Yeah.
Okay? Terrell Davis, Rod Smith, Ed McCaffrey. Mark Schlereth.
Exactly, Mark Schlereth. I knew these guys like the back of my hand.
So when I got drafted to Washington, I'm like, oh, my God, Mike Shanahan's going to be my coach? This is incredible. And because of that whole injury thing, as you guys have probably come to find out in any industry, it can become a huge blame game.
Yeah. And that blame game, and then you figure out that there's issues with the owner and the head coach.
And I didn't know that shit when I got to D. listen i got to d i didn't even know that the redskins at the time played in maryland yeah yeah practice in virginia play in maryland they fly we flying from the draft and we landed dullest airport yep right in the private jet i don't fly private a lot by the way but in the private jet and they're like yeah we're at dullest virginia and i'm like or dulles you know at the airport i'm like why are we in virginia why are we in northern virginia oh well we actually practice in ashburn virginia i said okay well where's the stadium oh we play in landover maryland right i might say we're the washington redskins but we don't do anything in washington right you know so like i didn't know a lot of things when i first came into the league, but going through that process has actually helped me in this part of my life.
Right. Right.
Knowing how to tell guys stories, knowing how to respond, how to talk to the media. So like I'm not bitter about anything.
I learned from all the mistakes that I made. I learned from the things that happened to me and I try to push it forward.
There's a lot of stuff that was going on behind the scenes before you ever got there that I feel like led to some of the stuff that ended up blowing up in the media and honestly i do blame dan snyder for your injury like i blame the condition of that field at the time was like unplayable so like it's there's no i don't think there's animosity from the washington fan base towards you i think like you you had an incredible year when you were healthy right and then everything just blew up after that, but it was all because of that one incident. I was going to say, just on the coaches, you went from Mike Shannon, who was your dream coach, to your real dream coach in Jay Gruden.
Has that beef been squashed? No, listen. Oh, we can still active beef.
I like that. No, no, there's no active beef, and to be quite honest, I'll answer your point about, and then I'll get to Jay.
Yeah, yeah. Because I see everyone wants to talk about the Jay thing.
Well, you're just talking about dream coaches. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We might as well talk about Jay Grimm. Stop.
So that was what I didn't understand. Yeah.
Was that before I got, like, guys, I wasn't a Washington Redskins historian.ins historian like when i got there i was learning a lot of stuff on the fly so i didn't know a lot of the stuff about dan that that had transpired before and then i didn't know anything about any type of like internal struggles between him and mike so it was like when you say like hey if if i'm an evaluator i'm a GM, like I'm never drafting a quarterback into a situation where there's a split in the building. Right.
Like don't do that because the kid's not going to be able to have the best chance to be successful. It doesn't mean you can't be successful because we were very successful in 2012.
Yeah. And all that stuff was just festering in the background, but we were winning.
Yeah. So winning kind of quells all of those things.
Once we once we stopped winning it was i don't think i've ever seen a team go from what we had in 2012 to what we had in 2013 and the coach being out like that no it's i've never seen anything quite like it's a great point i mean i'm a bears fan and it feels like the bears constantly do this where like they draft a quarterback then they fire the coach after a year and you're like wait so now the guy who wanted the quarterback is not here anymore it's like this guy has no chance to succeed yes and it's not to say no chance but it's harder it's hard it's harder like with Bryce uh with Bryce Young like I don't know what the dynamic was and I don't want to speculate on who wanted who when where how but I do know that only one guy is there that made the decision that was part of the decision making process of who the quarterback was going to be and it's not the head coach the oc or the quarterback right they're all gone so i don't know who wanted who or what happened but you can't draft a guy if everybody's not going to be in lockstep to help develop that guy and i do think like a lot of nfl fans don't fully realize how much these front offices kind of are at odds at times where it's like i these are my guys and if like you hire a new gm or a new coach they're like fuck these guys these aren't my guys it's unbelievable it's crazy it's uh honestly it's the daniel jones dynamic with the giants like why why did they decide to pay daniel jones a lot of that is you know they don't want to admit that they made a. They made a mistake.
Yeah. But GMs, coaches, personnel guys, they're all trying to make a name for themselves.
Yeah. So if they find that Brock Purdy, right? Yeah.
Now they're like, this is the guy that found Brock Purdy, and everyone in the coaching circles is talking about that. They're going to hold on to what they possibly can, and they don't want to like Mitch Trubisky, unfortunately, right? Yeah want to be like yeah i'm the guy that drafted mitch trubisky right and no no disrespect to to mitch no but yeah it's more of just like they don't want to be connected to those types of things right you probably got like nine people in san francisco that are like yeah it was my idea yeah they're all telling everybody it was my pick i'm the one that did it wasn't isn't there a saying like success has like a million fathers and failure has won or something like that? It really is.
I don't know if that's a saying. I might just be a genius.
So then you get to the point where some NFL execs or decision makers, they operate on opposite sides of the spectrum. More like what we do not what we do because we're like, you guys are phenomenal.
Thank you we don't we don't we don't do this right there's people that operate on the far right and people that operate on the far left so now they're either holding on too long to a guy yep or they're not giving him enough time yeah no it's true you know i'm saying so balance there's a balance there if you're going to draft a quarterback and you're going to give up i don't know whether what did washington give up uh i think like three ones three ones and two twos maybe i don't remember it was a lot yeah right they they got the whole list of the rams players that that that were acquired because of the trade um if you're going to put all that into a guy you got to give him more than two years right yeah you got it you got to make the structure be the right this is a nice two three year four run where we're going to fully develop this guy yeah and if you don't do that for the quarterback and you have a terrible terrible team right in 2012 we weren't a terrible team but we were three and six at one point yeah right we won seven straight games down the stretch right but if you're going to teams that have not been very good sorry about the bears you know know it's a tough, very sensitive subject for you. They stink.
They stink. But if you do that, you can't go with Justin Fields and be like, all right, let's give him a year and a half and see if he can get it done.
No, it's true. You guys have been bad for a long time.
A long time. You got to develop that guy.
I'm sorry about that. I'm bad at the big brother.
Long time. I'm sorry.
All right, so Jay Gruden, the beef? jay is done right and and here's who ended it um to be quite honest i think it was a mutual thing okay and that's very true but here's what i will say okay uh i was not searching for a beef with jay jay said something about jaylen hurts someone tagged a bunch of people tagged me in it so i saw it you guys know how this goes yeah social media we're having a good time yeah having some good laughs i post the the picture of me with the eyes like say what like we're having a good time jay took it somewhere else yeah once he took it there it's like okay well coach i you know you've done some things towards me that nobody really knows about right so then when i put that out there about the press conference in washington where i challenged the team and this guy asked me to do that and then he didn't have my back and then doubled down on it in a team meeting that was just it was it was very not even hurtful but it was just like man what the hell is going on here you asked me to do this why don't you have my back in this right um so he asked you to challenge your teammates because one guy can't do it by himself he told you to do that correct and then you said it in a press conference correct was there like a miscommunication where he was like you need to challenge the guys but not in a press conference no no he said we we need we need somebody to step up and and and tell the guys challenge them in a public forum did he come to me and say hey robert i want you to challenge the guys at the press conference right after the game uh you after we just lost yeah and it's very emotional no he didn't say that but he asked me to challenge the team in a public forum if we were continuing to not experience the success that we wanted yeah and and after that happened and then what everything that i already talked about transpired i was just like all right what am i now supposed to do and this is a thing that i think like players need to hear i know that you know the you guys's fan base is phenomenal and they they listen to what you guys say and they want to have a good time but players need to know that there's a reason that the mainstream media has the coaches backs and it's because no matter how long you play that coach is going to coach longer tom brady played for 21 years there's we i mean bill belichick's how old 79 9 000 years old what is he 104 you know i'm saying like he's been coaching for a really really long time that relationship with that coach is more important than that relationship with the player. Yeah.
So when you see narratives like Russell Wilson and you see like, okay, there's like one or two guys that are talking, not bad about Sean Payton, but just about what he did wrong. No one else is.
Why? We did. Yeah, we said it was weird.
Because y'all are real ones. Yeah, we said it was weird.
It was fucked up. It's so messed up.
Yeah. But there's more people that won't because they know that russell wilson is probably going to be done in five five six years yeah and sean payton's going to probably still be coaching yeah and the people in con sean payton's coaching tree are going to continue to be coaching yeah so it's it's an interesting dynamic there for players they sometimes as players we have to bite the bullet yeah and we have to do what's best for the team by not saying that so that story that i that i shared that story is nine years old yeah it's never been told though why because i was in the nfl and if i tell that story about jay gruden i'm not getting another job right what coach is going to want to work with a guy that you tell the story about what the coach told you and then he didn't have your back and it's like they don't want to do that right so now at this point when i'm basically retired i'm like okay cool jay you want to try to burn bridges or you want to make a joke about me racing a pigeon which i didn't race a pigeon by the way it was an eagle it was an actual it wasn't eagle either it was a hawk it was a hawk it was a hawk and i'm sorry that i can do things that dusted the hawk don't just say you raced the hawk i'm two and oh versus tame of the.
Yeah. 2-0.
You raced him twice? Raced him twice. Raced him last year.
They wanted a rematch because they said he pulled up at the line. So I said, okay.
So they put the Hawk's trainer 10 yards back from the finish line this time. No excuses.
Okay? So don't punish me because I can beat a Hawk that can fly at 120 miles per hour. and taber's gonna hear this and my and bulletin board material if that hawk attacks you i might side with the hawk i might be like the hawk argy's three talked a lot of shit on that hawk so i'm three and oh versus wildlife because i also beat uh dubs the second from from washington the live mascot so i'm three and oh versus wildlife i'm open any suggestions, of course, but I'm not going to stand here and allow anyone to badmouth Tama and or pigeons, okay? Pigeons are legendary.
Yes. All right? And I'm not going to throw any other shots.
So Jay came out and basically apologized. So it's good.
I had like 30 minutes. Yeah.
I had like 30 minutes of ether for him. Yeah.
but I decided to put that in the back pocket because I'm not going to throw punches at someone who has their hands down yeah that's fair put your hands up Jay and we can keep doing it we're done but if you want to we can do it pigeons also helped us win World War 2 so you got to respect pigeons you read the II. Carried messages.
Absolutely. So now we're carrying a message to everyone out there.
Yeah. Don't throw punches at people with their hands down.
But if they throw one. We're going to get back to RG3 in a second.
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And now, here's more RG3 um i got a non-football question for you and and your lovely wife is here um what happened with the the flight the southwest flight and you leaving for for the birth of your child oh yeah that's a great one actually because we were like where's the child i was like i was like wait a second we're gonna need a're going to need a birth certificate. Taylor Luan basically broke down in tears and helped escort you out of the stadium.
And now there's no Robert Griffin in the second half of this game. Also, where's the child? I actually had this exact thing happen in the birth of my third child.
We were going to West Virginia for our rough and rowdy fights. Got to the green room and wife called me was like my water just broke okay get right back on the plane and go back so little stolen valor i need to i need to know when this child was born yeah so so first you said the flight with the child and immediately my mind went to um when our baby was that gamea when gamea was born i was in.
Okay. And I actually, Coach Harbaugh let me miss the flight to be there for the birth of my child.
And then I had to fly southwest with the Ravens fans. Okay.
Essentially, to get to the game. Threw a touchdown, did a whole story on it.
So that's where my brain went at first. You're talking about running off the field.
Correct. At the Fiesta Bowl.
Correct ago yeah basically now so baby's won all right the baby's won but it was yeah yeah you know so it took a whole year for the baby to be born so you know what yeah so at at the end of the day so i get the call from from from gretta yeah that listen uh i'm i think i'm going into labor yeah um i had already pre-talked about it with the group like hey there's a there's a good chance that you're on high alert that i'm on high alert all right i was risky to actually fly to the fiesta bowl but because pat m McAfee asked me to do the alternative cast from the sideline, I'm like, you know what? I got a lot of respect for Pat. He's doing a great job.
I'll do it. I'll make sure I'm there.
It was Taylor LeJuan, A.Q. Shipley, and Cole Kubelik.
Exactly. Cole's our friend, yeah.
It was a great group, but I'm like, I think if I get the call, these guys can carry. Yeah.
They can carry the broadcast. These guys are phenomenal.
So we're all laughing about it before the game like, yo, it would be pretty sweet if we just did it anyway, you know? Mm-hmm. Like, what if we just act like it happened? Yeah.
so when i get the call i'm thinking like okay this is fake right she's not really going into labor right and uh so their reaction i don't know if they knew if it was real or not but then i get the call and i'm like no i gotta go so like that from that point on i don't know if they actually knew right like he actually got the call and I'm like, no, I got to go. So like that from that point on, I don't know if they actually knew.

Right.

Like he actually got the call and his wife is going into labor or if it was just like,

well, we were kind of joking about this earlier.

Like what's going on here?

Yeah.

So I got the call.

It was a real call.

I ran off the field.

That was all legit.

So I get to the airport, the Southwest flight.

So now I'm on the plane flying home and I'm thinking to myself, well, damn, I've got all

these pictures in my phone of my wife from like a pregnancy shoot that we did. And I'm not going to get a chance to post them.
Oh, no. The real problem.
The worst thing ever. So I'm like, one, I don't know if I'm going to make it to the birth of my child, but I've got to get these pictures off.
So I'm on the plane and I buy Wi-Fi. You know, it's like an arm and a leg nine dollars like god dang it i think that was the only southwest flight that took off that we could do everything was shut down that's so that is an actually true statement because all the other southwest flights were shut down but they found a way god found a way for me to be able to get back and i'm thinking in my head yeah all right so i i think i posted like six okay six pictures maybe don't quote me on that but there's a lot yeah they're beautiful pictures of her and you know just us together and enjoy the moment and then when i land so you know wi-fi goes out for like 10 minutes or whatever so i land i'm running to get to the car i get in the car i'm driving heading there you go i got you i'm driving to the uh to the hospital text her like hey what hospital did you go to boom boom boom and uh then she calls me i'm like maybe 10 minutes from the hospital hey they they told me it was uh false labor okay so now i think that was was that two weeks it was i think two weeks later two weeks two weeks later after that Gia was born.
Okay.

Gia was born. Okay.
Gia Shali Griffin. So she was born, and I went, I actually left the next day and went to call a bowl game in Texas where we were in Orlando at the time.
And everyone that I saw six months after running off the field, every single one of them was like, man, that was so cool. Great that you made it to your baby's delivery.
And I'm like, I corrected them for like two months. Like, hey, guys, it was actually false labor.
I actually put out a tweet saying that it was false labor, but people didn't see that. They saw the tweet that went viral yeah and i after three months i was just like yep yep thank you it was incredible i don't know how i made it you had us you had us in a real pickle because like i i have three children so i know that you know it's labor is very intense and like it's scary when you get to the like the last few weeks so we're kind of towing that line of like you know we don't want any complications but produce the baby like we need to see the baby yeah so we didn't so we actually i don't how long did we take to post you we took a while to post her that she like we posted that she was born but i don't think we posted on the day that she was born yeah and we did that on purpose because of some of the confusion that was going on but like as a as a as a dad yeah you know this like women die dude it's crazy so it's it was it was concerning for me to be at the fiesta bowl and not be there for the birth yeah of our child but also like oh my gosh i don't know if my wife is going to survive now that might sound debbie downerish but it's a real thing it's a real thing it's a scary moment where it's like this is you know there's a lot at stake here so i'm very excited on the plane going home like all right our baby's going to be born looking at pregnancy let me get these pregnancy pictures i'm like this is awesome this is so cool but like in the back of my mind i'm like man i kind of want to make sure i get there and there's there's no complications no issues for sure for sure a moment will always remember yeah i'm happy that everything worked out because we really were yeah we were stuck so being big cat talked about it you put us in a bad spot we obviously didn't we didn't want to say anything on the air because like you don't know what's happening in somebody else's life but right after it happened we kind of floated the idea to each other we're like wait a second every southwest airlines flight is grounded i think it got so far in our heads that we're like, I think that Southwest paid RG3.
We thought it was an ad to get some good publicity for them. Now that they say that, it's bringing back memories because Southwest was like under fire for weeks about some of the stuff that was going on with their planes.
So I can understand why. I don't want to say you're conspiracy.
No, we spend too much time online. That's really what it is.
Our brains are rotting from online. Would you consider yourself a conspiracy theorist? No, I enjoy conspiracy theorists, but I wouldn't consider myself to be a conspiracy theorist.
So there's this week-long... We had a lot of private conversations.
We're like we we need to see this baby yeah yeah facts i'm not gonna lie when i got to the airport that was my number one concern is the plane going to take off yeah i just ran off a national tv there's no way i can get back to orlando fast enough but via car from arizona i gotta take this fight and it took off so maybe maybe southwest saw the broadcast yeah we gotta make sure this flight yeah has to go out yeah i like it mayor p gets on the phone he's like i need this flight i'm getting a lot of shit right now um there's another a great video of you uh i think this was like 2017 yeah oh yeah They're with zero sugar more than yeah one with body armor gotta love it. Um, there was a video of you.
I think this was like 2017. Are these drinkable by the way? Yeah.
More than zero sugar. More than drinkable.
Yeah. I have one with you.
Body armor. Gotta love it.
There was a video that you put out on Instagram a while ago. Maybe my favorite.
We like the Jameis Winston workout videos. Those are our favorites.
Hilarious. Close second was RG3 throwing footballs at trees.
You remember that one? I think you guys commented on that. Oh, yeah.
We commented a couple times on that. Oh, EFT definitely.
Yeah. Definitely.
It was like pick a tree and then you'd hit the tree it was actually impressive like you were you're nailing those trees appreciate you um these trees didn't stand a chance have you have you thought about like if you're not retired try to get some buzz going go hit some more trees well you see um that's actually not a bad idea because after that video uh i did get a few calls from teams and it actually led to me getting signed to the Ravens in 2018. Wow.
And, and honestly, I know some people maybe who have a lot of time on their hands on the internet would be like, it's fake. Yeah.
Oh, fake tree. No, the trees are fake or the video's fake.
I was literally out there throwing, didn't have any receivers. And at this point in the year, everyone's like, Canadian Football League is playing, the NFL is going.
I'm like, I don't have anybody to throw the ball to, so I got to find something. So I ran a track workout.
I started doing some drops. And I look at my wife, Grette, and I said, pick a tree.
I'll hit it. In my mind, I'm like, there's no fucking way I'm hitting this tree.
Right? But I drop back. I hit three trees in a row.
Yeah. This is off camera.
RG tree. There you go, RG tree.
We got a trademark that. Cease and desist.
I got to talk to you about something else, too. So no pressure, no diamonds.
Yes. Your slogan.
Yes. Did you know that you let the trademark lapse on that? I did.
Do you know who got that trademark? Did you get the trademark? I got the trademark for no pressure, no diamonds. No way.
Yeah. Do you still have it? I don't because I traded it to Mike Florio.
So, now Mike Florio has the trademark in exchange for him not suing me for calling myself PFT. Really? Yeah, so Florio's got the no pressure, no diamonds trademark.
So Florio Pro Football Talk has the no pressure, no diamonds. Yeah.
That is hilarious. So every time you just said it, that's money for Florio.
It's money for Florio. He listens to every podcast.
Yeah. That is unbelievable.
He's going to get a check for this. So every time I say no pressure, no.
Yeah. Yeah, you can't say that anymore.
I can't say that. That's a half residual right there.
Yeah. No, he's going to get.
He's a lawyer. That is hilarious.
Yeah. Honestly, that's funny that you picked it up.
The reason I let it lapse is because we weren't going to be selling any merch from it, but we're going to continue to use it. So I guess when I do start selling merch again, I'm going to have to go get it from Mike Flory.
Yeah, you're going to have to. You can pay me, and then I'll pay Mike.

Okay.

And I'll just take my cut from Mike.

Yeah.

Because I'm kind of like his agent.

Oh, okay.

That's actually pretty.

This whole thing.

Yeah.

That is hilarious.

I would never have guessed that.

Yeah.

So there's a period of time where I just basically lived to troll everything that you did.

We know this.

Yeah.

But you said, I forget which show you were on.

You said something very nice, like maybe a year ago. You're like, yeah, we used to hate each other.
Now I think we're boys. Yes.
So I would consider you a friend. Love that.
Are you a friend? I consider you a friend. Honestly, the backstory that you gave at the beginning of this whole conversation, I never knew that.
Yeah. I never knew how much of a fan you were.
Right. And I can understand the angle of like, let me try to go.
Like like you created this persona but i don't think it's a persona anymore i think it's it's just who you are yeah but it was maybe a little misunderstood in the beginning with with everything that was going on with me in washington well honestly i would be i would be concerned if like a starting quarterback was getting into the depths of like levels of satire on the internet that they completely understood every joke i was making. I'd be like, you should probably spend more time playing football.
Yes. So when somebody drops a logo and then somebody says, you know who else has a logo? Hitler.
It makes you think. It doesn't make you think.
It makes you be like, I got to block this guy. Get him out of here.
But no, I do consider you a friend. And I've been really excited about this whole media journey because I feel like what you guys try to do or what you do is you celebrate the game, but you have a good time.
Yeah. And I understand the satire now because I'm obviously just enveloped in it.
I'm in the thick of it like Kyle Lowry. You know what'm saying uh that's because he's got thick legs okay so anyone was wondering big ass though i actually got a call from somebody about that about kyle lowry's ass i wouldn't say it that way but just that you know maybe kyle wasn't didn't like it okay so i actually have not said it for months okay this is my first time in months saying it.
It's very difficult for me not to say it. Thank you.
Welcome back. But no, it's just the way you guys have fun talking about sports, talking about the players, talking about your favorite teams.
I think it's more so what sports should be. Yeah.
What sports media should be. It should be about celebration of these guys and having a good time.
Yeah. And I think you've moved away.
You have moved away from a lot of the stuff that you used to do in the beginning well because i right now it's like i mean it's gonna sound like a brag but the podcast is pretty big right oh it's huge and so there's gonna be a lot of people that weren't there at the start that didn't understand like what i was doing where if i say or go after somebody like i used to they're gonna be like holy shit this guy's insane or maybe worse, some people that are like, he makes some good points about RG3 and Hitler. But I'm with you though.
And that was more so, I would say, the issue. And not just for me, but other players, not just with you, but with certain people who might take it that way.
I think you guys know, I think a big reason for your name was the fact that people would tell you, don't read comments yeah yeah right on the online don't read the comments because it gets gnarly in the comments well players take they see that and then it's like now you're attaching things to their name that they don't like yeah or things not even that they don't like that that shouldn't be there right um so i'm actually you know we hugged it out before but i'm proud of you i'm proud of you for what you've been able to do and what you've become and uh it's been cool to see just the growth and development and i hope i hope you and everyone else out there sees the same thing from a guy like myself yeah you know i'm not a 22 23 year old young man anymore i'm 33 about to be 34 um and i've learned from a lot of the things that i went through know what to say when to say how to say it and uh hopefully people see that in my coverage of sports. Yeah.
All right, so I got one last question. It's been awesome.
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So your media career has blossomed. You're doing a great job.
Tough question, though. Are you too horny online sometimes? Ooh, good question.
That is a great question. Listen, if I put together a wordsmith of a tweet, right? Mm-hmm, yeah.
I'm deep in my bag. Okay, okay.
How you interpret that. So it's our fault.
It's not your fault. It is not your fault.
This is not a blame game. What I'm saying to you is Alex Orgy, the quarterback for Michigan.
Why'd you use that name? Because that's his name. Okay.
But, I mean, I just asked if you were too horny. Did you not know? No, but...
Did you not? Did you say... Yeah, right.
I asked too horny and you just go right to the orgy. I'm just...
Yeah, yeah, got it. You went right to the orgy.
No, you did. Did I? Okay.
Yeah, you said orgy. I said his name is Alex Orgy.
You said you went right to the orgy. You said I likes orgy.
No, I did not say that. Are you trying to...
That's like being like, oh, I'm a comedian. And you're like, no, I'm not a comedian, but I do comedy.
It's like that makes no sense. Yeah, it's like my favorite quarterback, Spencer Blowjob.
That's what you just did. Oh, my God.
Listen. Random name.
I did not say that at all. I said the backup quarterback for michigan was alex orgy okay okay so here

one of uh one of the ones that that had that took off a couple years ago was i called there's a

there's a orgy in the end zone yes it's a good call right but it was because alex orgy scored

and we kind of built it up like he had a couple plays on that drive where i just did not say his

last name right and i was like i'm not touching that one yeah alex with a nice throw alex with a nice run and it was just like you know what this guy if he scores touchdown i'm gonna say it yeah i'm gonna say his name and i'm gonna make sure that it's it's in the hall of war forever so when i said that one the michigan fans took it and ran with it and had a good time with it. And what I try to do is have a good time, but never put my employer in a situation.
Yeah, no, you do a good job. You make it fun.
Where they can't be like, it's not explainable. Yeah, right.
You know, I had a tweet. Man, I've had some tweets now.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I've had some tweets.
Yeah. I had a tweet.
It was when AB, Antonio Brown, like, exposed himself in the pool. And I said something about – I think I deleted the tweet, honestly, but after the, you know, the ref share came in.
Yeah. After Elon cut the check.
But, no, I don't even think they were ref sharing at that time, so this is a joke. But AB, like, exposed himself, and there was a defense that was not, like very well and i tweeted out and i'm saying something like you know um they they're you know antonio brown showed more d than this team and it took off and i deleted a tweet because that kind of put my employer in a situation where they're like all right well why are you referencing that right it's not a guy's name it's not this so even in this media game of doing that type of stuff you find the spot and i and i feel like i'm in my my honey hole of like i can be myself have a good time you in your what yeah my honey hole okay my honey hole okay you don't you're it's fine i didn't say i said honey hole you turned it into something else yeah that's might might be fair yeah you know what i'm saying like if your mind is in the gutter i i i can't help get you out of it all right all right if i say oh my gosh did you see that big hole that the running back just penetrated down the middle oh my goodness did you see with that cut yeah yeah ran right into the box you know i'm saying like those types of things like i they i watch games and i can't not hear those things yeah it's unbelievable yeah you know what i mean so i just try to have fun have a good time but also let it be explainable you know what i mean yeah uh oklahoma had a backup quarterback what was his name uh general booty general booty and john david booty yes and i think they're related yeah john david booty the booty bros the booty bros yeah and and general booty i had no plans on mentioning general booty okay but dylan gabriel got hurt yeah and the backup got hurt so and then rg3 gets horny no no no no so on the sideline they pan to general booty warming up what do you think i said you don't know do you no exactly i said probably like that's a booty is getting loose on the sideline oh okay all right that's good one right that's a fact it's a fact yeah you did his name is booty you're good job.
And he's getting loose with his arm on the sidewalk. Yes.
Right? So I don't try to find those things. They happen naturally.
And I think I have a decent knack of knowing when I'm going to go. Yeah, they're good.
It makes the broadcast fun. Yeah.
It does. Yeah.
I got one other thing, but I'm trying to find this picture right now on my phone. I went.
Oh, here it is. Great timing.
I went as you for halloween one year no it's it's not okay it's not bad yeah um it's not no it's not what you think uh is that cultural appropriation i did braid my hair oh i thought he had blackface on no no no no and i i had i had a sprained ankle at the time and you also had a sprained ankle So Irained ankle. So is that okay? That's okay.
Listen, I got a bunch of the Halloween pictures of, like, the knee brace or the crutches or the cast on the ankle. But nobody's ever done, like, a Halloween costume of, like, me racing Team of the Hawk.
Yeah, yeah. Or the subway thing.
Or the subway sandwich, you know what I mean? Or, like, you you know griffoning on the ground after the first touchdown yeah the saints like can we get some of those yeah no but no that's fine it's 100 fine and um you know i just i appreciate all the fans yeah yeah well it's been awesome thank you so much for making time for us and you have to come back on yeah you're a recurring guest you do i'm a recurring guest now and it's not going to take 12 years yep for me how long have you guys been doing this show eight years so it's not going to take me seven years okay to come on the show but before we leave the show i do have to make a couple proclamations okay okay you know we got the uh super bowl's already happened yep um what do you guys think about brock purdy i think whatdy? I think he's a game changer. I think he's a game wrecker.
He is a game wrecker. He plays the game of football.
I would say he stinks. He's not a manager.
He's a man. He's a game man.
He's a game man. He's a game man.
He's a game man. I like that.
I like that. Unless he loses, then he stinks.
I mean, come on. That's a fact.
I mean, according to the mainstream media, that's what it is. If you lose in the Super Bowl, you suck.
Stink, yeah, yeah. Not the fact that you got there.
Yeah, right. Or that you were Mr.
Irrelevant and that you've done. Right, right.
If you just look at Brock Purdy's stats, right, from the regular season, you'd say he was the best quarterback in the NFL this year you could make that argument probably yeah yeah but I've always was pretty good no Lamar was the MVP yeah there's a difference yeah Lamar's the MVP Brock Purdy played the quarterback position better than anybody in the NFL yeah and I've always said this about stats stats are like bikinis right they show you a lot but they don't show you everything oh I like that so you have to actually watch the tape of Brock to go back and see, like, oh, this guy's a creator. Yeah.
Like, he creates plays for them, not just with ball placement or throwing the ball where it's supposed to be or eye manipulation, but with his legs in the pocket and outside of the pocket. So I actually believe that the real Mr.
Irrelevance are the people who throw shade at Brock Purdy. Ooh, I like that.
That's good. Yeah, I like that.
I also like calling him like a play creator. Exactly.
I've never heard that before. He's a creator.
If you watch the tape, and I know everybody doesn't have time to do that, and I'm not trying to sit here and I know some people are like, I watch more tape than everybody. I do.
But I don't want people to think that I'm trying to say that as being a snob. It's just to say studying the game and being able to cover these guys the right way yeah that whole thing about him being a game manager and being the not even

in the top 10 on on his team but first of all he is top 10 on his own team 100 yeah but he's he's

not that and if you're saying that you're not watching the actual tape okay i don't compare

brock purdy to myself i'm not playing right now i don't care what he looks like compared to me

i care about what he looks like when i watch that tape yeah so that's how that's good

I'm going to go. don't compare brock purdy to myself i'm not playing right now i don't care what he looks like compared to me i care about what he looks like when i watch that tape yeah so that's how that's a good football player and if it's okay to say if mahomes loses the super bowl he stinks yeah they're gonna say that he stinks two and two in the super bowl yeah and here's the big one and here's the thing guys like for patrick mahomes like how many okay say they lose the super bowl yeah mr riski never lostky never lost a Super Bowl.
It's a fact. Stop me if I'm wrong.
That's pretty funny, actually. But either way you cut it, Mahomes is either going to have two Super Bowls in his six years or he's going to have three Super Bowls in his six years of being a starting quarterback.
Yeah. So he'll already have been the second greatest quarterback in NFL history in six years.
It's crazy. It's unbelievable.
Yeah. He's on a Brady track, but John Elway didn't win his first Super Bowl until his 15th season.
Yeah. Right? I think Steve Young didn't win his until his 10th.
Yeah. But yet we're going to try to hammer a guy like Patrick Mahomes who's on a legendary pace.
Yeah. You know, I think if they win, Mahomes and Andy Reid will be on track yeah to becoming the greatest quarterback coach duo of all time and that's a big statement because we already know what bill and tom brady did yeah but that that branches me into my next gripe about the people with lamar jackson okay i mentioned to you that elway didn't win his first one to his 15th season well what was peyton manning record after six games? After his first six postseason games?

One and five?

It wasn't good.

Two and four.

Two and four.

What was the thing that they kept saying about Peyton?

I don't know if you guys remember.

He was a choker. He can't be Brady.

He can't be Brady.

He can't win it when it matters.

How many Super Bowls did Peyton end up with when it was all said and done?

One and a half.

The Broncos defense was really good.

They were amazing.

Yeah.

And I will say that Peyton never had a quarterback rating over 90 in any of his playoff Super Bowl appearances. So he was a choker.
He was not a choker. Okay.
Peyton Manning is one of the greatest of all time. You're not going to get me to say that, buddy.
He's one of the greatest of all time. But for me with Lamar, I don't think it's not unfair to criticize Lamar.
That's not my issue. It's like when you try to compare him to the greats.
Yeah. If you you compare him to Peyton then you got to know the facts about what Peyton went through and how it took him nine seasons to win one Super Bowl right right and Lamar's going into year seven yeah so like give him that grace that we gave to these some of these others we feel the same way about Josh Allen Josh Allen as well like he you know if people want to rag on him we love him and And it's just like, yeah, it's a weird sport.
And when you got a guy like Mahomes or a guy like Brady, they steal a lot of Superbowl. 100%.
It just happens. Patrick Mahomes is 100% going to leave us with a generation of great quarterbacks that have no Superbowl rings.
Yeah. Because of how great he's been because of Andy Reed, because of the Travis Kelsey thing.
And now he's got a number two defense? Like, come on, man. But I'm with you with Josh Allen.
I'm a Josh Allen guy. I love him.
I hate the fact that they're debating whether he's great on TV every freaking week when he loses a game, because at the end of the day, if Patrick Mahomes is your standard of great, then, yeah, no one else is great. Right.
You can't compare. It's not a comparison.
But to say that Josh Allen isn't a great quarterback. Come on, man.
Yeah. Yeah.
Are your eyes? Are you just mad because he's greater than you? I don't. God, come on.
Like support these guys. They're the best in the world.
And I think you guys do a really good job of that. Sometimes if you have a bad team, you just want other franchises to also have bad times.
Yeah. I'm with you.
A lot of times it's deflection away from how badly you feel about the guy that you root for. It's like, well, your guy's not as good as you think he is.
Yeah. Correct.
That's what it is. But that's okay from fans.
Yeah. Media is different.
You know what I'm saying? Do you guys consider yourself media? Yeah. Kind of.
But we're like fans. Yeah.
I think we're fans first. But you're fans first.
Yeah. If you're on ESPN or Fox or CBS or NBC, I know that there are fans as well,

but that's not your job.

Your job is not to be a fan and analyze from a fan's perspective.

Your job is to analyze from a professional standpoint.

And you cannot tell me that Josh Allen scoring damn near 50 touchdowns this year

means he's not a great quarterback.

I know he threw a lot of picks.

Okay, make a lot of sense. How about this one, though? This is the one that trips everybody up.
Dak. Oh, yeah.
Talk about Dak. I know.
He's a joker. We just hit the Cowboys.
So, yeah, we will say, like, Lamar. Are you horny right now? No, he's a joker.
What are you talking about? He's a joker. Lamar.
He is not a joker. Give Lamar some time and the same grace that you give to Peyton Manning.
Josh Allen, do the same. Dak sucks.
That's pretty much it. That's coming from a Bears fan and a Commanders fan.
I just look at Dak and, man, I thought the decision with Tony Pollard and getting rid of Zeke was a difficult one. But for Dak, I think I said this last year, he's now moving into the realm of is he going to be Tony Romo or is he going to be Troy Aikman? Now what did Troy Aikman have? He had a phenomenal offensive line.
He had Emmitt Smith. He had Michael Irvin.
Dak has CeeDee Lamb. Is Tony Pollard going to be that Emmitt Smith or they're going to have to bring another guy in? And do they have the pieces up front to be that dominant offensive line? Yeah.
But it's no longer – they're not going to give Dak any more grace for everything that's going on. No, I'm going to go out on a limb and say Tony Pollard will not be Emmitt Smith.
Yeah. I like Tony Pollard.
Yeah, I do. Now, Emmitt Smith is the – he leads the NFL in the NFL in rushing yards.
Yeah. I don't think that's a.
Yeah. It's not a, you know.
You can't compare them. You're not condemning him for that.
You can't compare them. It's the same thing you said with Mahomes.
If that's great, then everyone else thinks. And I know you tried to stop the episode, but we're just having such a great conversation.
So I'm actually wearing this saying jacket, right? This is not a sponsored ad or anything like this. Where is this jacket from lunch yeah things from box lunch okay not sponsored or anything like that but his promo code take 20 there you go i made this comparison on monday night countdown about i'm a dragon ball z guy okay and i made this comparison with patrick mahomes like there's a character on dragon ball z named sel and he's the perfect combination of all of the attributes of all the greatest fighters on earth.
Goku, Piccolo, Krillin, Tien, all these guys. And to me, that's what Patrick Mahomes is for NFL quarterbacks.
He's the perfect combination of all the great quarterbacks we've ever seen. Yeah.
Right. He can process like Manning and Brady.
He can extend plays in a similar way to guys like Steve Young. And the thing that makes him so great is that in clutch time moments, he has that.
It's not even a clutch gene. It's just like you just anticipate.
Yeah. 13 seconds, man, whatever.
Yeah. Five seconds, he'll find a way to get it done.
Yeah. So I always wonder that.
And then my other question, I guess my question for you guys, are you guys Dragon Ball Z at all? No. But you're Avengers, right? No, I'm not a nerd.
You're not an Avenger? You're not a nerd? I'm wonder that. I guess my question for you guys, are you guys Dragon Ball Z at all? No.

But you're Avengers, right?

No, I'm not a nerd.

You're not a nerd?

I'm a jock.

Tony Stark?

Tony Stark?

You're not a nerd?

I play football, yeah.

You play football?

I used to play football, so I don't have time for that.

I'm a nerd.

I'm a 100% nerd.

No, there's just some things that we don't, for whatever reason we miss, we just miss

those things.

That's fine.

You can miss Dragon Ball Z.

I've watched enough for all three of us combined.

Yeah, I love how passionate you are.

That's why I didn't watch it.

Thank you.

Thank you for taking care of that for us.

So my question to you would be, you guys know who the Avengers are.

Nope.

You don't know who Marvel's Avengers are?

Iron Man?

Ant-Man?

Ant-Man, the Incredible Hulk.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

All those, yeah?

Yep, yep.

So I think Brock Purdy's Iron Man. Okay.
For the Niners. Who do you think the other guys are? Oh, Batman.
Who's Batman? Well, Batman would be DC. Batman's Brock Purdy.
You think Batman's Brock Purdy? Yeah, he's just a regular guy. And then he puts on his armor, and it's Deebo, and it's Kittle, and it's McCaffrey.
That's actually a really good reference.

I kind of nailed that one.

But if we're going to go with the Avengers, what do you think?

I think Joe Burrow is Iron Man.

You think Joe Burrow is Iron Man?

Because he's rich as fuck, yeah.

Just got paid.

Yeah.

He's the rich one, right?

Iron Man is the rich one, but I think you're misunderstanding the conversation.

I'm asking you for the 49ers team.

Deebo, Juszczyk, Kittle. Trent Williams is Pikachu.
the conversation i'm asking you for the 49ers team on the 49ers trent williams is pikachu oh ray ray mcleod's baby yoda yeah okay roku what his name's groku that is his name you're right my kids have the baby yoda but his name is okay that's i thought that was the name of the species and it's a groku not go from Dragon Ball Z. Since we're mixing everything and we're throwing Pikachu and Star Wars and all this into here.
Chase Young is Predator. Oh, wow, that's actually a good one.
It's not in the Marvel Universe, but it is a great... Oh, Incredible Hulk, Trent Williams.
Has to be, right? Oh, he's Pikachu. Oh, he's Pikachu.
So that means Debo would be the Incredible Hulk. Incredible Hulk, yep.
I think Debo might be Debo from Friday. From Friday? Yeah, he'd be Debo from Friday.
Damn, we're throwing Debo from Friday into the Marvel Universe, too. I like this.
Christopher McAfee is Forrest Gump. Yeah.
Christopher McAfee, too? Forrest Gump. He just keeps running.
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I think we nailed it.
Me and Kyle was like peas and carrots. We nailed it.
We nailed it. That's pretty funny.
I got nothing else. That was awesome.
Well, yeah, this has been so much fun. Thank you so much.
You definitely are coming back on. I'm coming back on.
Yes. And I want to maybe come to our office.
I want to see that speed up close. You guys are in New York, right? We're in Chicago.
You're in Chicago. Yeah, we have a huge 40,000 square foot office with a basketball court, everything.
Holy cow. You know what?

We're going to make it happen.

Yeah, you come.

James put us through some drills.

We should set up a race.

Yeah.

Set up a race in Chicago with some wild animal.

Yep.

Maybe we can do a Bird Olympics.

You can compete in multiple sports against the bird.

We could do the Bird Olympics, and we could honor pigeons the way they deserve to be honored.

I agree.

I'm down.

Yeah, if you race every type of bird, that would rock. That would be pretty funny, actually.
Yeah, we start with like a chicken, and we just keep going up from there. So while I'm racing these spurs, what are you guys going to be doing? Just watching.
Yeah, on our phones. Now Robert's racing an ostrich.
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, get them all.
That might be pretty frightening. No, let's start with a penguin, I think, yeah.
Yeah, a penguin. A penguin? Penguin's the first one.
You don't like final bosses unfair it'd be funny have you seen their feet yeah it'd be funny I think you could beat a penguin you've seen Happy Feet right yeah they're great singers but not great runners yeah wait Happy Feet wasn't that the one I think a penguin could beat Kirk Cousins in a race in Happy Feet were they dancing they were dancing and singing oh I'm thinking of March of the Penguins come on get happy what'd you say about Kirk Cous kirk cousins i think penguin could beat kirk cousins in a race in a race actually well right now he's got an achilles injury right exactly but not when he's healthy um can i ask you one more question about that redskins team yes okay was it weird when you got drafted and then kirk cousins gets drafted in the fourth round or was it his fourth right it was in the fourth it was only weird because mike came to me uh during the draft i was in the meeting room with uh with kyle and matt lafleur learning the offense and he comes in opens the door he's like hey robert we're gonna we're gonna draft quarterback from michigan state kurt cousins are you uh now this is a rhetorical question right are you cool with that yeah what if you're like no I'm 22. This is my first day in the building because I think it was the second day of the draft, right? I don't know how they did the days back then, but I think it was the second day of the draft.
So what am I supposed to say? Nah, coach, go do something else. No, but what I came to find out was the reason that that pick happened was because of the internal struggle.
Right. That was going on behind the scenes.
So I didn't know that I,

I,

me and Kirk shared a burrito together.

Okay.

Our,

our rookie year,

we shared a burrito.

Now we didn't eat it like at the same time,

like lady in the tramp,

but we didn't do that,

but we cut it down the middle,

shared a burrito.

We were,

um,

weird.

This was rookie mini camp.

So we're roommates at rookie mini camp.

We're studying the system together. We're learning everything together.
Me and Kirk, we have a great relationship. We are fine.
Nice guy. I like Kirk.
I support Kirk. He's the nicest.
I think he's turned the corner in his career from the early years when they're saying he couldn't win in primetime and do all this stuff. I know his record might not say that, but what he's done the past few years has been impressive.
I'm happy for him. I'm hoping he lands where he wants to be at but to answer your question it was it wasn't weird because i didn't think anything of it right in hindsight being 2020 there was a there was a clear reason yeah yes yeah all right well rg3 thank you so much man we appreciate it yeah great interview big cat appreciate you appreciate y'all man rg3 was brought to to you by Morgan & Morgan.
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With Pardon Your Take?

Yes.

And one guy's on chicks via memes.

Oh, and one guy's on chicks.

Via memes.

This is a question from memes?

No, that little note was from memes about there's one guy's on chicks.

I think it's a question from memes.

We'll like to hear the question.

I can't hear you memes.

Talking to Mike.

That was actually better than your stand-up set.

Oh, fuck you.

Man, that was so bad.

Is this the guys on chicks?

Yeah.

No.

Pardon your take.

Yeah, I said that to you. I got nothing left, boys.
I'm on all the way past E. That's why we're doing pardon your take.
Please finish our show for us, listeners. My husband and I have been married for six years.
Every year on the Sunday before the Super Bowl, he pulls out a VHS player and says he has to watch a 1999 VHS tape from his childhood called Super Sunday because you can't interrupt the streak of Sunday football and I have to lock in for Super Bowl week. It's only about Super Bowls up to 1990.
I don't understand why he has to watch something over 30 years old when he can find more relevant football stuff to watch. How weird is this? Real short answer for him.
It's because the beer commercials were so much better back then. You've got broadcast to really get the vibe of that era and the beer commercials were just that was that was the art of the 80s and 90s you know what used to rule i don't know if they still do it uh the like 24 hours leading up to the super bowl they would do the nfl films of every super bowl that fucking rocked yeah 30 minute condensed version with some interviews and stuff.
Ah, that was the best. I hope they still do that.
Does anybody watch VHS still? They don't? Does anyone watch VHS where it's like, you know, people listen to records on vinyl? No, I don't think the quality's better. Yeah, I know, but it's still kind of cool to watch VHS.
Yeah. The beginning.
And then when they rewind. The the fbi will shoot you if you copy this tape i think i have a guess for this one uh hypothetical question what would your guys dream sports moment be like the moment you dreamt of as a kid a world series walk off shootout goal in the world cup etc etc oh if we're playing i would say making a buzzer beater.
March Madness. What about like your team's down two or down one at the line? You get fouled.
Oh, yeah. Hit two free throws.
Always a kid. Yeah, yeah.
Or like your boys are trying to get 41 free throws. You got to get there.
Yeah. You got to hit two of the last three.
You get fouled shooting a three-pointer, and then you make the first two, and then someone comes on the court court and abducts you yeah they have to get the other guy to shoot the last one yeah and your and your best boy is snoozing away on the couch yeah studio yeah i mean i i will it is what it is i uh correct i got i got benched from the team so i wasn't i wasn't contributing much anyway was anybody else out there that got benched from the team we were rebounding I'm not talking about me PFT actually got promoted to the team yeah I got promoted I got brought down from the booth when was the last time Jim Nance got brought down to the sidelines to get in there and help the backup quarterback warm up this isn't about me I'm proud of you guys PFT guys jason witten we did it backs yeah um we did it i asked steven steven how mad were you that you missed it i'm not mad i was oh we did a dog pile it was great it looks great i you know the picture i was crying a little bit um i missed jerry's hole-in-one too so it is you know might just be like a super bowl yeah yeah concourse situation um but i kind of dozed off being like i'm gonna wake up and and we're still gonna be like it's gonna be 10 o'clock in the morning and we still have to do the podcast and i'm gonna miss my flight and vacation's ruined so i'm day, the vacation's still being exact. You would not have missed your flight.
Yeah, but you would have. What was that? You would have stayed here.
What did you just say? Yeah, I would have. There is a 0.0% chance that you would have missed your flight.
Absolutely. Oh, no, I would have missed.
I would have stayed here forever. That was the biggest lie I've ever heard.
No, you guys know. I would have stayed here.
Doing what? Sleeping? Sleeping? I couldn't let my team not hit that without me being there to support. Facts.
I always dreamt of hitting a home run game seven of the World Series. Are we in the NFL film? The VHS? No.
No, no, no. Your childhood sports memory.
For me, it was always hitting that dinger in Game 7.

Yeah, mine's Buzzer Beater. NBA

Finals, March Madness. Yeah.

3-2-1. Buzzer Beater or hitting

two free throws. Yeah.

And one. Or being the horse

that wins the Kentucky Derby. Yeah.

That's a good dream to have.

You just retire and fuck.

That's life.

Yeah. Alright, last one.

Would you rather have

DeMar Hamlin's on-field experience

Thank you. and you just retire and fuck.
That's life. Yeah.
All right, last one.

Would you rather have DeMar Hamlin's on-field experience

during when he died or have Alex Smith's leg injury?

Oh, DeMar.

Because you get a peek at the afterlife.

It's like Nikki Six, right?

Yeah, for sure.

He died for like seven minutes.

Yeah.

Didn't Alex Smith actually win Comeback Player of the Year, though?

Yeah, but his leg is all mangled. It's a fair point by hank though because he gets the glory tomorrow we've got a fake punt no i would rather be tomorrow i'd rather be tomorrow because you get to take a glimpse at the afterlife you get treated as a hero when you come back or okay you get it you get a free clone okay only thing only counterpoint is damar hamlin definitely, he's probably made a lot of money or a decent amount of money off this and being able to be associated with people, someone will hire him.
But, man, he's got to basically answer the question of what was it like every day for the rest of his life. Yeah, what does God look like, DeMar? Yeah, that would be tough.
Yeah. Whereas no one really says, like, what was it like every day for the rest of his life yeah what does god look like tomorrow yeah that that would be tough yeah whereas no one no one really says like what was it like when your leg got mangled i i think that alex smith his career was good enough where it might not be the first thing that comes to your mind when you see alex smith it's probably the second it wouldn't it wouldn't be for me it'd be it'd be like oh yeah alex small hands yeah oh yeah alex smith you were you're the guy before they won all the superbowls yeah i'd be like well alex what was it like uh showing patrick mahomes how great he can be at football yeah and also wow that was a really weird handshake because your hands are small do you think alex smith smith i can't remember how the contracts worked out and everything but there definitely was a moment where He's like, fuck this guy.
He sucks. Why'd they give him my job?

You think so?

Yeah. And now he's just like, whoops.
I think I've seen some interviews with him where he was like, yeah, he was just very clearly a great quarterback the first time he got to camp. Because that probably happened like Drew Bledsoe probably thought that, right? Yeah.
Probably was like, this is bullshit. Yeah, probably.
Tom brady guy sucks that turned out wrong yeah like even brett farve was like aaron rogers he fell in the draft he sucks he's right he only got one super bowl yeah true um i don't know what else that's it good question good question good guys on chicks on Chicks memes. Reminder, we're going on vacation, finally.
Thank God. It's not that we don't love you.
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Yes. Football season is very taxing.
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Numbers. It's called Omerta.
18. 41.
40. 8.
Are you about to do it? Yeah. 3.
3.

20.

Also, I added Pug to the winner's wall.

It's already halfway home.

You should do 26.

4 out of 8 of us.

Hank.

For the 26th letter in the alphabet.

Did I just hear Max Hickup again?

Z's.

Max with a sodies.

Two soda Max. Wait Wait did everyone guess? Yeah I don't think I have an enchanter here Oh my god 99 Oh pug He was contemplating Wait wait wait Did you not Did you not hit reset? No, I didn't hit reset.
No, you definitely. Did you? Yeah, you definitely did because we dropped it.
Pug and I were, he was asking how the machine works and I tested it. 99 back to back? No, it's not back to back.
Well, like on the show it is, but we're, I showed him how to do it earlier. It's like other numbers.
No, it's 99 back to back. Okay.

What the fuck?

Run it back. It doesn't matter if you hit it when you and Pug are playing fucking tummy sticks in here.

If 69, the sexual position is represented by the numbers, 99 might actually be back to back.

Yeah, it literally...

Wait, is it back to back?

No, no, it's spoons.

Yeah, 99 is spoons.

It's Jake and Pug when they come in here and hit the fucking lottery ball machine together.

All right, let's do another one.

He was contemplating shooting his number, so I don't know if that would have...

Wait, should we text him right now and be like, Pug, what's your number?

No.

Nah, that doesn't count.

That doesn't count.

All right.

Numbers.

41.

23. 18.
40. 21.
64. Nintendo.
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