George Kittle, Maxx Crosby, Super Bowl 58 Preview And Props Plus Fyre Fest

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Speaker 1 It's our last show from Las Vegas.

Speaker 7 Super Bowl 58 coming up.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about the game, our picks, our favorite prop picks. We also have two great interviews for everyone.

Speaker 1 We have George Kittle, Kittle, who will be in the Super Bowl playing for the 49ers.

Speaker 1 And then an awesome interview with Max Crosby. Kind of a cool full circle moment because we did have Max Crosby on the radio shows

Speaker 1 the last time the Niners and Chiefs played in Miami. He's had an incredible story.
He's gotten sober. He's become one of the best players in the NFL.
So it was awesome talking to him.

Speaker 1 We'll finish up with Firefest.

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Speaker 1 And then I can game all on the sound. Oh, no, we're gonna rock it down to electric avenue.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Friday, February 9th, Super Bowl 58.

Speaker 1 We're here.

Speaker 1 It's going to happen. The last game of the 2023-24 season.
We made it. We made it.
We have to talk some picks. We have to talk some props.
How is everyone feeling?

Speaker 9 I'm feeling good. I've got a lot of energy this week.
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 9 I haven't really been sleeping much more than normal in a Super Bowl week, probably like six, six and a half hours a night. But waking up, feeling good.
I don't know.

Speaker 9 Maybe they do pump like oxygen into the casinos down here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whatever it is, I'm feeling feeling good. I feel good, too.
I feel strong. I've been doing a good job of going to sleep early to take care of my voice.

Speaker 1 I felt like I was about to lose it on Wednesday night. I was like, you know what? I'm going to go to bed at 10 o'clock.
Yeah. I'm going to go to bed at 10 o'clock for the listeners.

Speaker 9 I have not been going to bed at 10 o'clock. I've been playing a lot of roulette.

Speaker 9 Hank was on fire at the roulette table the other night.

Speaker 1 Good job, Hank. Thank you.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 And then he was on fire kind of at the blackjack table in the opposite way. Good job, Hank.

Speaker 12 Yeah, my chips are on fire. I feel good as well.
I slept for 13 hours last night.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 12 I interviewed Rosillo. My phone died during it.
So I was like, I'll go back to my room, charge it up for a minute. And then in the time before it turned back on, I fell asleep and woke up at 5 a.m.

Speaker 12 And I feel great. So I'm ready to finish the week strong.

Speaker 1 Take on the day.

Speaker 9 How many times have you guys worked out this week?

Speaker 1 I walked today for like

Speaker 1 three miles. Once for 10 minutes.

Speaker 9 I worked out one time. I ran on the treadmill for about 10 minutes.
Yeah. And you feel great if you do that on vacation.

Speaker 1 I also was working out specifically because I've been trying to hunt down a certain person that will remain unnamed.

Speaker 1 It was a trying to just go to the gym to see if I could see this person. It's a little bit of stalking.
Light stalking.

Speaker 1 But actually, I wasn't. It's for a good cause.
I wasn't, I'm not the one who's stalking. I'm stalking on behalf of someone else.
Right. So it's not a fool for you.

Speaker 9 You're like a spy. Right.
Yes. Yeah.
You're spying. You're not stalking.

Speaker 1 I'm the tip of the spear. I'm the first one out there.

Speaker 9 Do they call James Bond a stalker?

Speaker 1 No. No.

Speaker 9 He's a fucking spy.

Speaker 1 If it doesn't work out that I find this person, I will reveal reveal who the person was on Sunday Night's Show.

Speaker 9 It's an unnamed commissioner.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, there it is.

Speaker 1 We'll just have to cut that. We'll have to cut that because we are still stalking or light stalking, stalking for someone else.

Speaker 9 Bleep that one out. Yeah, bleep it.

Speaker 1 Jake, how you feeling? Do you went to Radio Row?

Speaker 14 I went to Radio Row this morning. I think we'll go back after this.
I have a day passed, so I'm going to take advantage of it.

Speaker 1 Were you just like, did you have like the hearts in your eyes? Just being like, look at all these guys. I was at home.

Speaker 9 Look at these microphones.

Speaker 1 You're at home. Yeah.
Okay. You know, this podcast is pretty big.
Yeah. We do.
We do.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You can have two homes.
We're in the media, too.

Speaker 9 You can't have two homes. You can't have two homes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 But you were really at home. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 7 What did you see?

Speaker 1 See Boomer and Carton and Boomer and Geo.

Speaker 14 I saw Stephen A. I saw CJ Stroud, Michael Vick.

Speaker 1 That was just on one lap. It's funny that you said Florio first.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Florio, big names out there. Florio, C.J.
Stroud,

Speaker 9 Michael Vick.

Speaker 1 You know, who's who of the NFL?

Speaker 9 Stephen A. Smith.

Speaker 1 That's his name.

Speaker 14 I was catching up. I did a hit on the New House student radio station.
Nice.

Speaker 1 Giving back. Giving back.

Speaker 9 To the kids. What advice did you give the youngsters?

Speaker 14 I said keep in touch with your connections

Speaker 14 because you never know. All you need is one connection for things to work out.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 14 I mentioned how the only time I ever lied to you guys was before I met you.

Speaker 1 What? When did you lie?

Speaker 11 What did you lie about?

Speaker 14 When you guys asked if I'm locally in New York.

Speaker 1 And you said no. You said yes.

Speaker 14 Because I knew you wouldn't take me seriously.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 5 Where were you locally? Florida. Oh.

Speaker 1 That's a good lie. Yeah.
We should probably fire you now. Very good lie.
Retroactively.

Speaker 9 Yeah, allegations have come to light. Plagiarism? Was there plagiarism?

Speaker 1 It was like George O'Leary. Remember when he got hired for like a day at Notre Dame? That rocked.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But it was cool.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Good. All right.
Well, let's talk about the game.

Speaker 9 Pumped about this game.

Speaker 1 I'm excited about this game as well.

Speaker 9 I'm getting more confident as a week goes on. I don't know if that's probably a bad thing, right? Yeah, no, it's definitely a bad thing.
It's a really bad thing.

Speaker 9 I like the Niners, and I love Christian McCaffrey as Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't hate that.

Speaker 1 I just, I think I'm going to stick with the Chiefs. I'll leave myself an opening

Speaker 1 right before kickoff if I want to change, but I've thought about it very hard.

Speaker 1 I think the Chiefs' defense is better than people realize, and I think Spaggs is going to put on a masterclass, and Mahomes is Mahomes. And there's just so many things that I just keep going back to.

Speaker 1 Like the Chiefs, they've just been there, done that. They know how to win these games.
And

Speaker 1 no disrespect to Brock Purdy, who, by the way,

Speaker 1 ESPN's running out of things to talk about. So he's gone, instead of a game manager, they were debating today whether he's a game changer.

Speaker 9 Next week, is he a game wrecker? Right.

Speaker 1 Is he elite? He's going to be the new Joe Flacco if he wins this game.

Speaker 9 If he wins wins this game, he's going to be in the elite conversation because guess what? He won a Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 9 yeah, no, I've seen a lot of that going on. The game manager, game changer.
We're just trying to figure out ways to say that Brock Purdy is not as good as Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.
And

Speaker 1 the one thing that's making me very nervous about the Chiefs is that there is, as of right now, 70% of the money is on the Chiefs. Yep.
Yep. So that's happened twice before, 60%.

Speaker 1 This would be the highest ever on one side. The last two times, 68% both both of these was the Patriots when they beat the Rams in 2019.
So Patriots had the majority of the money.

Speaker 1 So that was public was right. The other one, though, is scary because 68% of the money was on the Broncos when they lost to the Seahawks by a billion.

Speaker 1 This doesn't really do anything to

Speaker 1 prove one way or the other other than I'm just still confused.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen in this game because obviously you're right about the defense. Like the 49ers defense actually isn't that great.

Speaker 1 And especially since Hofanga has been out, their third-down defense hasn't been great. Guess what Patrick Mahomes does? He always gets third-down conversions.

Speaker 1 Like, that's that feels like he just breaks teams' backs with plays out of nowhere in third-down.

Speaker 9 And their pass rush win rate has gone down since getting Chase Young. Yeah.
They've gotten worse at getting to the quarterback since Chase has been on the team.

Speaker 9 But I just think, I think the Niners are just going to run the ball.

Speaker 1 They're going to run the ball, run the ball, run the ball.

Speaker 9 If Christian McCaffrey gets two touchdowns and the 49ers win, I think that McCaffrey is going to end up with the MVP.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. The only thing is, you, so I agree that they're going to run the ball.
They're going to run the ball a lot. Their one stat that

Speaker 1 should have you a little scared, and this is going to be a game of chess.

Speaker 1 So I've shouted them out before, but my guys from Sports Info Solutions, the Chiefs' defense stacks the box on 14% of the plays. That's 28th highest rate in the league.

Speaker 1 So they play a lot of light box. And the Niners actually like to run against a stack box and throw against a light box.

Speaker 1 So it's like it's kind of reversed where the Chiefs are going to dare the Niners to throw and the Niners are going to have looks that they usually throw in.

Speaker 9 It's very weird to me. They usually

Speaker 9 pass against a stack box. Yeah, they pass against a light box.

Speaker 1 Light box, yes. The Niners like to run the ball against stack boxes 48% stack box run rate highest in the league.

Speaker 9 That doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 10 I know.

Speaker 1 But yeah, weird. Okay.
I just thought I saw that stat and I was like, oh, that's weird. And so as much as I think the Niners will be able to run, the Chiefs' secondary has been so good.

Speaker 1 And if you say, okay, Christian McCaffrey's going to have 125 yards, but the Niners' pass offense is only going to have 150, I think the Chiefs would take that. Yeah, they probably wouldn't.
Right?

Speaker 1 Like, because even Christian McCaffrey, he could run, he could have an incredible game. You'll still be in some passing downs where you have to pick up a long third down.

Speaker 1 And the Chiefs have been, like, Legerius Sneed has shut down every number one receiver. Like, it's just, I don't know.
I just keep going back to that.

Speaker 1 And then my heart wants Kittle, who we're going to talk to in a second, to win the Super Bowl. So I am as twisted as possible.
Yeah. Yeah, you are.

Speaker 1 I'm an absolute mess.

Speaker 9 I would love to get Kittle a Super Bowl. I'd love to get Trent Williams a Super Bowl.
I'd like to see that happen.

Speaker 9 And like the Niners, they haven't been a long-suffering franchise. It's not like Niners fans are like, oh, shit, we haven't won a Super Bowl.
I mean, it's been a while since they've won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 But they're one of the elite franchises.

Speaker 9 They're one of the elite franchises. And the fact they're always competitive, too.

Speaker 9 It feels like more often than not, the 49ers have a pretty good team, at least recently. So it's not like you've got David versus Goliath in this.

Speaker 9 And the one thing that does make me worried about the 49ers is the kicker.

Speaker 9 Moody. Moody makes me nervous.

Speaker 9 It makes me very nervous. Even his makes don't look good.

Speaker 1 Kicker and kicker, quarterback, coaches. I think those are all on the Chiefs' side.

Speaker 9 Keenan, I was thinking about this today. I woke up and my first thought, because I was watching Get GetUp, as one does, and they were talking about like clutch players, right?

Speaker 9 Really interesting conversation. And I was like, can a coach be clutch? You don't normally hear about coaches being clutch.
Maybe Kyle Shanahan's just not clutch.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe he isn't. Andy Reid is.

Speaker 9 Andy Reid is clutch as fuck. Andy Reid, super clutch, Super Bowl experience.
Andy Reid used to not be clutch.

Speaker 9 He got clutch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He gained the clutch.

Speaker 9 He mutated himself.

Speaker 1 He just had to get to a certain age and became clutch.

Speaker 9 He biohacked his body and spawned spawned the clutch gene.

Speaker 1 What were you going to say, man? I mean, that was the same thing. And that was his number one reason of why he wasn't Philly because he wasn't clutch.
Yeah, I don't think the coach is clutch.

Speaker 1 I think it's the quarterback.

Speaker 9 Yeah, quarterback is clutch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Donovan McNabb.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes, big difference. Huge difference.

Speaker 1 Either way,

Speaker 1 I do think these two teams are.

Speaker 9 I think McNab has more in common with his dad.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 9 McNabb.

Speaker 1 McNab has more in common with Patrick Mahomes' dad.

Speaker 1 McNab's a good player. Let's not.
Yeah, McNabb's a good player. McNab wasn't a good quarterback.
He's very good. I'm not talking about on the field.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I'm talking about between the other lines.
You thought he was talking about Patrick Rome Sr. as a quarterback? Well, no.

Speaker 1 He's a good quarterback.

Speaker 1 Either way, this game, I expect this game to be a great game. I'll be disappointed if it's not a great game.

Speaker 9 You'll be disappointed in the game.

Speaker 1 I will. Yeah.
Because these two teams are really fucking good.

Speaker 9 My expectations were higher for you, Game.

Speaker 1 Seriously. Yeah.
No, I am. I'm very upset.

Speaker 9 It should be a good game. A lot of big-name players.

Speaker 9 There's not like a whole bunch of excitement in terms of spicy storylines going to this game yeah it's more like okay we've got two good teams we kind of expected both these teams to be in the conversation and there's no like real bad blood which kind of sucks i would like somebody to i don't know get into a fight with somebody else stir some shit up in the media yeah they're they're debo to go on his podcast and be like kadarius tony's a bitch it's a set yeah kadarius tony better not be playing if kadarius tony's active i might that might yeah you should switch you should no i'm not joking that would make me switch yeah if he's part of any game plan i would switch to the Niners.

Speaker 13 He kind of won the Super Bowl last year.

Speaker 1 He did kind of win the Super Bowl last year. That's true.

Speaker 9 He did have a clutch play. He is clutch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he is clutch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it does feel like

Speaker 1 whatever's going to happen is either going to be Mahomes, GOAT, Legacy, all that talk on Monday, or holy shit, Brock Purdy won a Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Holy shit, Brock Purdy won a Super Bowl would be pretty fun.

Speaker 11 It would be very fun.

Speaker 9 Yeah, because then

Speaker 1 I just keep going back to the fact that I do not want to start Sunday night show, Monday show,

Speaker 1 the Kansas City Chiefs are Super Bowl champions, and I bet on the Niners.

Speaker 13 Yeah, that's that's what I don't want.

Speaker 9 I have no problem doing that. Yeah, I'm fine with that.

Speaker 1 I just, he's kicked my teeth in enough. I have a fun little Super Bowl stat for you from our friend Jay Kuda.
Do you know there's never been a seven-yard touchdown run in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 9 I did see that, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a fucking awesome. It's pretty weird.
I kind of want to bet exactly seven-yard touchdown run.

Speaker 9 Is that an option?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but that's that's a wild thing. For uh,

Speaker 1 he had all the listed is that the only yards?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, there's a ton of yards that haven't happened, but obviously, it's like when you get further down the line, there hasn't been a 12-yard or 13-yard touchdown run, but seven, you'd think, yeah, think there'd be a seven-yard running running.

Speaker 9 That feels like McCaffrey territory, right? Yeah, seven yards, yeah.

Speaker 1 Um, also, I think I saw a stat that was like the team that's closer to the Super Bowl site usually wins.

Speaker 1 That means really nothing, but

Speaker 11 the Niners are closer, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 11 Do we want to do prop bets?

Speaker 9 Let's do them. I got some ones I'm very confident in, some ones that I'm terrified of.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, let's, Max, you have some prop bets too?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I got prop bets.

Speaker 1 Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 This first one's really fun. It's probably the most fun thing in football.
It's what I care about the most. I don't really care about wins and losses as much as I care about this.

Speaker 2 It has happened three times in the Super Bowl before.

Speaker 2 So I think that this year could be the fourth. I'm going to go with Scorigami.

Speaker 1 Nice, good. I like that, Max.
Favorite thing off the ball.

Speaker 9 I love Scorigamis.

Speaker 1 Nice. Yeah.

Speaker 18 The only.

Speaker 1 This is mine. All three.

Speaker 1 It's just that. This is my problem.

Speaker 19 Did you also, you wanted to do the octopus, too? Did you have octopus?

Speaker 9 Oh, octopus is on there. Yeah, I had that.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 14 All three scoreigamis in the Super Bowl have involved the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 1 Oh, interesting. Okay.
Wins and losses. Okay, so PFT, what are your confidential? Let's start with the confident and we'll go from confident to crazy.

Speaker 9 You want me to give you a confident one? Yeah.

Speaker 9 No fucking doinks. Oh.
no doinks. We're running it back.
I got doink big time last year. And I just realized I'm talking about Moody and

Speaker 9 even his makes are close to being misses.

Speaker 1 And also last year, it was Bucker that doinked.

Speaker 9 It was Bucker that doinked, but he's a good kicker. There's no chance he double doinks.
No chance. So what I'm doing is

Speaker 1 I'm going to have my vengeance on the doink from last year.

Speaker 9 I'm going to double my bet this year and go no doinks.

Speaker 1 Hank, will you be responding in kind? I have to. Yeah, you have to doinks.
You're a fucking asshole, Hank.

Speaker 9 Hank, you're such a dickhead. What are the odds?

Speaker 9 It's minus $7.50. It's an investment.
It's an investment. It's safe.
Now, Hank, you were a dickhead last year about it. You basically just betted.

Speaker 11 I was a winner last year.

Speaker 9 No, you betted just, you made it happen, and you lost me a bunch of money.

Speaker 12 I literally said in real time, I was like, that the odds are too good to pass up.

Speaker 9 You think they would have two Super Bowls in a row with Doinks?

Speaker 1 No, but. Get a calculator.
It doesn't happen. It happened just, you know, out of spite.

Speaker 10 Out of spite.

Speaker 9 After all I've done for you.

Speaker 1 Do you want me to ride? No, no. Minus 750.

Speaker 9 I could never.

Speaker 11 No.

Speaker 1 That's a crazy number.

Speaker 9 It's an investment. That's a crazy number.

Speaker 1 It's an investment. Okay, I have one that I like that is not crazy, but it's a fun one.
I think I bet at every single Super Bowl, not only Tails, we all are betting Tails. Tails, yeah.

Speaker 4 Over two and a half players to throw a pass.

Speaker 1 I love that. Yeah.
Because you just feel like there has to be at least one trick play in this game. debo maybe maybe kelsey and there's someone's gonna have

Speaker 1 what mccaff mccaffrey yeah someone gets injured for a second

Speaker 9 yeah although when they get injured for a second they usually hand it off but uh i just love i i always love it because you're just rooting for a trick play to happen yeah the chiefs do love like tinkering around in the red zone empty the clip empty the clip yeah let's have a trick play you could even get like a little uh double reverse where the wide receiver like just tosses it just a little bit forward to the guy that's that a lot I'd like that a lot.

Speaker 1 Hank, what's your favorite one?

Speaker 12 I'm two. My last two Super Bowls, I went mega on opening kick touchback or not touchback.
I forget which one.

Speaker 9 I think it was touchback.

Speaker 12 It was touchback. That hit for the Rams.
Everyone think it was like 25 times in a row. It hadn't hit.
It did. Last year, no doink.
Or doink. That hit.

Speaker 1 Easy. It was easy.
Shut up. But it was.

Speaker 9 It was too easy. It was very easy.
I honestly, I would not be betting this if I hadn't gotten doink. No, it's a spite bet.

Speaker 1 It's a spipe bet.

Speaker 9 I have to double down. And guess what? If it doinks again, I'm going to double down again next year.

Speaker 12 There is

Speaker 12 one prop bet on here that I'll be loading up, unloading the clip, emptying the clip, putting it all on this one prop.

Speaker 12 Will any punt result in a touchback?

Speaker 1 Yes. I have that one too, Hank.
I mean, let's ride.

Speaker 1 How does that not happen?

Speaker 9 It's got to hit. So it is

Speaker 9 plus 135.

Speaker 13 Those are just fun ones.

Speaker 1 Yep. Every punt, we got a chance.

Speaker 9 There's going to be a fucking touchback on one of these punts.

Speaker 12 Adrenaline's pumping. You're trying to, you know, coffin corner, goes five yards too far, punch touchback.

Speaker 9 Yeah, like Ray Ray McLeod's going to be standing on the 10. He's going to wave his hand over his head, signaling a fair catch, and at the last second, he's going to sprint away.

Speaker 9 The ball is going to bounce at the seven, roll into the end zone, and all the players on the Chiefs are going to be like, oh, I thought he was going to fair catch it.

Speaker 9 And then we're going to be like, we're rich. Yeah.
And I love that. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm in on that with you guys.
What other ones you guys got?

Speaker 9 I'm doing over 1.5 coaches' challenges.

Speaker 11 Throwing the flags.

Speaker 9 Let's get the flags out there.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love doing the first time out, too.

Speaker 9 Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that one's just. Andy Reid.
Yeah.

Speaker 14 I had that, too.

Speaker 2 I wanted to do Niners' first challenge because I think the guys on the field are going to be going for Mahomes. Mahomes will always get the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 2 So that Niner's first challenge was minus 105.

Speaker 9 You think the refs, the script is in?

Speaker 9 They need Mahomes, Kelsey, Swift to win. Correct.
So they're going to call something a little shady and Kyle's going to be like, eh-eh-eh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, correct.

Speaker 9 I like that. That's good logic.

Speaker 12 You guys are talking about it, but the team with the most third-down conversions, Chiefs, minus 120.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Okay.

Speaker 12 Like Mahomes, like you just said.

Speaker 12 Mahomes converts. He makes plays happen, especially early.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 The over 1.5 coaches challenges, by the way, it's plus 300, 3-1. So I like that.

Speaker 14 I like color of body armor poured on wedding coach, clear/slash water.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Body armor sport water. Okay, nice.

Speaker 11 Plus 700.

Speaker 1 They're just going to do some sport water on the alkaline water.

Speaker 14 Travis Kelsey MVP.

Speaker 1 Yeah. For the storyline.

Speaker 9 I just don't see a way that Kelsey gets MVP and Mahomes doesn't, though.

Speaker 1 Because they're sick of Mahomes. Who?

Speaker 1 The media, and they want to give it to Kelsey.

Speaker 9 You think the media is sick of Mahomes?

Speaker 1 No, but I'm just saying that this just sounded right. Fatigue, yeah.
It did sound right. That's the only way.

Speaker 1 The real answer is there's no way.

Speaker 9 Yeah, there's no way.

Speaker 1 But if you're looking for an answer, it's fatigue.

Speaker 18 Or the storyline.

Speaker 14 The media votes.

Speaker 1 But again, how, like, it would have to be that Kelsey got like if kelsey has two touchdowns 125 yards patrick mahomes would have to have an interception and only like 200 yards yeah he'd have to play bad right he'd have to play bad but the chiefs would win and kelsey had to go off yeah but if kelse goes off have like a miraculous catch isn't that how did edelman win that year Edelman Edelman won a Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Cooper Cup won a couple years ago. I think the best MVP that's not one of the quarterbacks or Christian McCaffrey is Debo.
Because Debo,

Speaker 1 he could do the Debo thing where he takes like a seven-yard slant to the house. He's going to run the ball as well.

Speaker 1 Debo could end up with a crazy stat line that doesn't directly say Brock Purdy was the MVP.

Speaker 1 Whereas everyone else, receiver, it's very hard to make the argument how a receiver could get it or a tight end without the quarterback winning it. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What about kicker?

Speaker 9 What about kicker MVP?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you don't like Moody. Nine to three.
I don't know.

Speaker 9 I don't like Moody, but

Speaker 1 now I really do like him.

Speaker 12 If a kicker is going to win, they would just give it to the defense.

Speaker 9 No, because if a kick, listen, these kickers are going to be so good. They're going to be splitting the uprights.
Ball's going to be selling right down the middle.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 Here's one that I really love.

Speaker 9 Actually, now that I'm looking through these lists of prop pets, I love every prop pet that I'm making, so I am confident in all these. But

Speaker 1 that's every single time. I think the Bucs Chiefs Super Bowl, I had 10 prop bets and I went one and nine.
And before the game, I was like, this is going to rock. Yeah.
I'm going to win all.

Speaker 9 No, I've got it figured out. I've got it all figured out.

Speaker 9 This is one of those bets I've been doing during the playoffs where you find something weird and the odds are so good on it. And you think to yourself, why doesn't this happen in every single game?

Speaker 9 Like, why are these odds like that? And so I hit on one of those. I lost on one of them.

Speaker 9 But this one seems too easy to be plus 2,200. So it's 22 to 1.
Each team to score one or more touchdowns and one or more field goals in each half. No.

Speaker 9 So both teams need a touchdown and field goal in each half.

Speaker 1 I did this for how does that not hit? I did this for Bill's Chiefs. Yeah, it's impossible.

Speaker 9 It's not impossible.

Speaker 1 It's very hard. You have a limited time.
It's harder than you realize.

Speaker 12 It's extremely hard.

Speaker 1 It's also hard for a team like the Chiefs who, if they have a lead at halftime, they're going to go in just full. I mean, they're under in every second half has been insane.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 14 That means you need four scoring drives in a half. There's only, what, like?

Speaker 1 No, no, you just need two scoring. Oh, yeah, you're right.
You're right. You're right.

Speaker 1 right you're right yeah that's a lot you only get what each team gets three or four you just saw the 22 i you know what i'll do it i saw 22 you said it said that it's 22 you said it so i'll do it that's i'm just thinking why the last one that i like is uh oh length of longest drive over 77 and a half yards

Speaker 1 i like that okay you don't even have to score you just have to go over 77 and a half yards yeah that's good crazy if you didn't score that but um

Speaker 1 both offenses should and that could either that could also be a huge play yeah there i hope we get a couple huge shot plays.

Speaker 9 Hank, are you actually, but you're betting Doink?

Speaker 9 I want you to. Oh, yeah, he definitely.
I want you to because I want to beat you again.

Speaker 12 The other lock that I like is longest drive over 80 and a half.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 9 Are you serious? You serious, Clark?

Speaker 1 What just happened? He just said.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, hold on, let him cook. Let him cook.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Why do you think? Hold up, hold up. Let him cook.

Speaker 12 We're talking about prof bets and the one I love. I was just looking, researching.

Speaker 12 Maybe not fully listening.

Speaker 1 I literally just said over 77 and a half yards, longest drive.

Speaker 12 And then I was like, yeah, no, that's a huge difference. I like

Speaker 1 80 and a half. 80.
80.

Speaker 1 Wait, what are

Speaker 11 what are your, what are your odds, Hank?

Speaker 4 It was maybe 10 seconds. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, couldn't have been quicker. The next thing after I said, ooh, maybe a big, maybe a big play.
Don't have to score. Yeah.
You just dropped that. All right, well, we're in lockstep, Hank.

Speaker 1 Great minds.

Speaker 14 Not unless it's a 78-yard job.

Speaker 13 Then you're not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was discourse around it.

Speaker 1 It wasn't bad. It was thick.

Speaker 14 I know the position, Hanks, and it's the worst feeling. Just getting caught.

Speaker 12 Well, no, I heard 77 and a half. I just want to make it clear that

Speaker 1 I like the 80 and a half.

Speaker 1 Different bet. Yeah, no, completely different bet.

Speaker 14 Baby bump. Better visit.
Chief cornerback, Legerius Sneed.

Speaker 1 You got an interception? Yeah, you just had to be.

Speaker 9 I don't know if we can translate that to the defense, though.

Speaker 1 Didn't Schraeger have Legerius Sneed scoring a a pick six?

Speaker 14 No, that's what's his name.

Speaker 1 Oh, McDuffie? Yeah, McDuffie.

Speaker 14 Yeah, McDuffie.

Speaker 14 If you want to do an exact score, 34-28 Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's what Schrager is.
38-24 Chiefs.

Speaker 9 We are riding with Boomer, right?

Speaker 11 Yes.

Speaker 1 That is

Speaker 1 MVS first touchdown scorer and Kyle Yushek anytime touchdown scorer. Yep.
I also think that

Speaker 1 I'm just going to bet Travis Kelsey to score a touchdown.

Speaker 9 It seems like a smart bet.

Speaker 9 You have to do it.

Speaker 12 Last one I love is a dork field goal.

Speaker 11 Thanks. It's going to be my last.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice.

Speaker 14 Thursday, Travis Kelsey scored a touchdown.

Speaker 11 Yeah, nice.

Speaker 1 Nice. All right.
Wait, so do we have a nerd nugget?

Speaker 14 Well, I have a top five countdown. I don't have to read them all.

Speaker 1 We have five nerd nuggets? I don't have to read them all. They're all really cool.

Speaker 1 But I can just do one.

Speaker 9 How about top two?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hello?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. I got an emergency at home.
I got to go. All right.
Good luck, Big Cat.

Speaker 14 All right, I heard you guys on Sunday when PFT is like, who's excited? And Big Cat's like, no,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be as down on the nerd nugget noise because I don't have headphones in. True.
So it will be less grading on my

Speaker 1 mind, body, and soul.

Speaker 9 But your nerd nugget of the week, like, don't do that for both of them, please. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 So there are five nerd nuggets. I have five on them.

Speaker 14 All right, give me two.

Speaker 1 I mean, listen, give us all five. It's the last game of the season.
Yeah, you don't have to hear this again until September.

Speaker 1 There will not be nerd nuggets for March Madness. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about it.

Speaker 1 But I'll cancel it for next season. No, no, no, no, no.
Let's go. I want to.

Speaker 10 This is the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 We got to fucking do it. Yeah.
It's you have five nerd nuggets. I want to hear all of them.
All right. So we'll grade them.
Let's do this.

Speaker 1 Let's grade them on zero, like the dunk contest, zero to ten each one. What's the over-under of

Speaker 1 Jake's nerd nuggets for the total score?

Speaker 14 So max 150.

Speaker 1 Zero to 100. That's all tens.
Yeah.

Speaker 14 30 times 5, 150.

Speaker 1 That's too high of a number. 0 to 5.

Speaker 9 Okay, 0 to 5. I'm going to go to 10.

Speaker 1 So what's the max? 75.

Speaker 11 Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 75. Shout out to Supercuts.
Yep.

Speaker 9 I'm going to just think about my 25 points that could come at him. I think the over-under for me is going to be about 12 and a half.

Speaker 1 Okay, I was going to say it mine's going to be like around 6.5. Okay.

Speaker 1 10. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 10 So that's.

Speaker 1 So, Jake, if you can beat,

Speaker 1 let's say, 30 out of 75, then you've got to, the nerd nuggets hit. Okay.
Big moment. Last chance.
All right. Someone, someone, do someone count, Max.
Count.

Speaker 9 I can write that. You get our best guy on it.
Yep.

Speaker 1 He just took off his shoes and socks. He's ready to go.

Speaker 5 Gami fan.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 14 Excluding the Super Bowl, head to head in the history of the Chiefs and 49ers. Their records are dead-even.
Seven wins, seven losses apiece.

Speaker 14 The Chiefs and 49ers also have identical all-time winning percentages, 54.8%.

Speaker 13 Okay. Via Jekuda.

Speaker 1 Zero because you did it excluding the Super Bowl that's a pretty big that's a pretty big game that's a big game I was thinking from Jay Kuda oh so yeah so that's not two that was long I was losing

Speaker 1 zero two so that's not your stat Jake well no

Speaker 1 yeah you don't create stats yeah stats someone does yeah someone does also Jay Kuda the part of it is the visual visualization you like put the guy slightly black and then the gray but I think the excluding the Super Bowl is a pretty big piece of this I'm gonna give it a two

Speaker 9 because it is kind of wild that they're exactly even.

Speaker 13 Okay, so what do you got?

Speaker 11 Three, three, two, zero, two, two.

Speaker 14 Four.

Speaker 4 Okay, four.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 14 If the 49ers win, Ed and Christian McCaffrey will be just the second father-son duo to win a Super Bowl for the same franchise. Steve Diazi and Zach Diazi, who both played for the Giants.

Speaker 14 Related to that, Ed McCaffrey and Mike Shanham won three Super Bowls together. Now their sons, Christian and Kyle, have a chance to win one together.

Speaker 1 Okay. I like that one.
Yeah, that's that.

Speaker 1 I'll give it a three.

Speaker 9 I'll give it a three. Let me give it a two.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 So we're up to give it a two.

Speaker 9 Because we had said that

Speaker 1 Super Bowl storyline.

Speaker 1 But still cool.

Speaker 14 13 total.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 9 here's another wild one. Tack this one on, Jake.
The last running back to win Super Bowl MVP was who?

Speaker 4 Terrell Davis.

Speaker 9 Terrell Davis played for Mike Shanahan

Speaker 9 on Ed McCaffrey's team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 Terrell Davis and Christian McCaffrey probably have met. Probably.

Speaker 9 Oh, I want to get like a young picture of.

Speaker 1 I think I actually saw one recently that was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 That would be wild.

Speaker 14 Number three, umpire Terry Killens is a member of the officiating crew for Super Bowl 58. Why is this significant? He will become the first player ever to both play and officiate a Super Bowl.

Speaker 14 Killens was a member of the 99 Titans that played in Super Bowl 34.

Speaker 1 Lost it.

Speaker 9 It's NARC behavior, though. Like if you're an NFL player and you're like, I can't wait to become a cop.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, I think that's a one for me.

Speaker 1 That's a cool one. Yeah, but they lost the Super Bowl.

Speaker 12 Also, yeah, why would you want to become a rap after being a player?

Speaker 1 That's insane. It's weird, isn't it? That's very weird.

Speaker 2 I really like the way that you said, why is this significant?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was good. It had a little flair.
I'm going to give it a two.

Speaker 2 It's like you're giving an essay, like a school essay.

Speaker 1 Why is this significant? Why is this significant?

Speaker 1 My thesis is this guy who played and drafted a Super Bowl.

Speaker 9 I'm going to go three. Okay.

Speaker 1 I like the same thing. What is that like?

Speaker 1 Two? Nine.

Speaker 14 I'm at 19. Okay.

Speaker 1 Two to go. Oh, wow.
I'm ahead of pace.

Speaker 14 I'm like right on pace.

Speaker 1 Yep. All right.

Speaker 14 Number two. This is from an AWL.

Speaker 1 Okay. Dylan.

Speaker 14 The only quarterbacks to beat Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs so far are Tom Brady and Joe Burrow, whose backups were once Blaine Gabbert and Brandon Allen in games where they beat Mahomes.

Speaker 14 Guess who two of the backups in Super Bowl 58 are?

Speaker 1 Blaine Gabbert and Brandon Allen.

Speaker 12 I'm going to give this a five.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. I'll give you a four on that one.
That's kind of cool. I'm going to go through

Speaker 1 Brandon Allen. It's a third string.
Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 14 Two of the backups.

Speaker 1 Darnold. Darnold, yeah.

Speaker 1 But that's still crazy. Down to a two.

Speaker 1 They were the backups.

Speaker 14 Well, Darnold, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Two.

Speaker 11 I'm going two. What do we got?

Speaker 1 You gave a four?

Speaker 12 I just like, I like any stats that are pro, Mahomes losing.

Speaker 1 Are you betting on the Chiefs and the Riners?

Speaker 9 I have put, I bet on the Chiefs.

Speaker 12 The game ended, and you convinced me to bet on the Chiefs, so I put the bet in on the Chiefs.

Speaker 9 You made him do that.

Speaker 1 I haven't.

Speaker 12 I haven't. You can't cash out in Vegas.

Speaker 1 So you're okay.

Speaker 12 So I've been taking it all in, and then I'm I'm going to make a decision Saturday or Sunday when I get back. But

Speaker 12 it's hard for me to think about cashing out and betting on the Niners. Why?

Speaker 1 Just because it's the Chiefs, and like we've said a million times, if you lose with Mahomes, it's the Sunday night. It's Sunday night.

Speaker 12 And if you guys are both in the 49ers, we're losers.

Speaker 9 But think about how smart.

Speaker 12 And you can't get mad at me because you were the one that made me put the bet in the first, convinced me to put the bet in in the first place.

Speaker 9 Think about how smart you'd feel, though, if Brock Purdy beat Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 12 much like i think it was the packers whatever the game big cat talked about or game of the year

Speaker 1 if i lose the bet and the chiefs lose like i i won't be that mad right right so you'll be like okay mahomes didn't win a super bowl yeah yeah that's how i'm feeling as well it's the it's what we talked about with boomer there's certain people belich saban mahomes brady where you can double lose because you can bet against them and then feel like the biggest idiot being like why didn't you bet on these guys so i'm probably not going to i'm probably just going to go mega lock on touchback punt.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Chiefs.
Yeah. I think I'm probably going to load up on props too.

Speaker 9 Okay. Touchback punt.
So we're at 28.

Speaker 5 Okay. With one to go.

Speaker 14 And that brings us to

Speaker 21 do, do, do, do, do, do.

Speaker 21 Do, do, do, do, do, do.

Speaker 21 Zero doot, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

Speaker 18 Nerd nugget of Super Bowl.

Speaker 9 58. It's getting worse.

Speaker 1 Zero.

Speaker 5 Went all out for that one.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 14 With the 49ers and Chiefs having no Alabama players.

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter what anything said from here on out.

Speaker 1 You can say anything.

Speaker 11 With the 49ers.

Speaker 1 Literally, you could just be like, and the nerd nugget is PFT, Big Cat, and Hank are getting a million dollars from me. I'd be like, zero.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 14 With the 49ers and Chiefs having no Alabama players on the active roster, a remarkable streak will continue.

Speaker 14 No player who finished college at Alabama has scored a point in the history of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 14 Players from 143 other colleges, ranging from the Coast Guard, one point, to Miami, 84, have scored in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 That's that's

Speaker 1 a good stat, Jake. I gotta say, but it is,

Speaker 9 it's a zero for me, but

Speaker 11 that's a great stat.

Speaker 1 It was a great stat. The only thing is finish at Alabama because Jalen hurts.
But it's true. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So zero is so hanging out.

Speaker 1 But how many players drop out early because they're well not oh yeah is this degree

Speaker 14 is this a degree like no player finished college at alabama so i don't know what that means wait devontae smith in school this is from josh dubo of the ap i don't think so oh okay so i need two from hank to graduate

Speaker 1 what happens if you don't graduate i don't think anything i'll give you one and a half give him 1.9999999

Speaker 1 all right so zero is from you guys that that that is it that is a that is a good it's alabama it's a Super Bowl. That's a

Speaker 1 stunning stat.

Speaker 9 Jake, we did agree. It's a good stat.
It's a great stat. But our score that we gave you of zero, which means nothing, doesn't.
Yeah, the song was three times longer, conservatively.

Speaker 1 I mean, I had to.

Speaker 13 That was a fish jam you just did.

Speaker 9 This free bird.

Speaker 14 Those are your nerd nuggets of the 2024.

Speaker 1 That is a crazy stat. Like, I don't.
Now, is it touchdown throws? No. Coast guard got one point.
Well, Jalen Hurts, well,

Speaker 1 you should should have Coast Guard now. You said four to touchdowns.
Touchdown throws.

Speaker 1 Because Joe Neuron, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like in fantasy, they have to score the credit. But like, yeah.

Speaker 14 Okay. You're betting on an anytime touchdown score.

Speaker 1 That is crazy.

Speaker 9 It is crazy.

Speaker 14 The fact that it's Alabama is insane.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 14 People from the Coast Guard have.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Good job, Jake.

Speaker 5 Thanks. Yeah.

Speaker 14 Not good enough. 29.99999.
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, if someone to shoot for, that was a great next set. So it was kind of.
Thanks. It just happened that way.
I completely lost track of the scores. Yeah, we know.

Speaker 13 Backup boy had you after like

Speaker 1 PFT said we got our best guy on it. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Did you think he was being

Speaker 1 the best guy? I'm the best guy.

Speaker 1 I'm the best big boy. Yeah.

Speaker 14 Yeah. Your best boys.
I've added some to the bonk list this week, Hank, to back you up.

Speaker 11 Nice. I don't know.

Speaker 9 I haven't done a single horny thing this week while watching Miley Miley Cyrus on TV.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Final thoughts about the Super Bowl? Anything?

Speaker 1 Who's wearing white?

Speaker 9 Chiefs are, I think.

Speaker 5 No, the Chiefs wearing red.

Speaker 1 Oh, they are. Oh.
Oh.

Speaker 9 That means something.

Speaker 1 That hurts you.

Speaker 10 Why? I just feel like the Chiefs are red.

Speaker 4 Although, no.

Speaker 1 No, Chiefs in White.

Speaker 9 That's what scares me.

Speaker 1 It's all red for Chiefs.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Chiefs in White scare me.

Speaker 1 I have one more prop.

Speaker 1 Over 75.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
Over 75. I wonder what the alt line to that actually would be.

Speaker 1 Wait, so what did the Chiefs wear in the first one that they played?

Speaker 1 They wore red in the 49ers one, so they won that one. They wore red in the Bucs one.
They won that one. Did they wear red last year? They were white.

Speaker 12 They won't win the Bucs one.

Speaker 1 You're right. They're one and one in red.
What did they wear last year?

Speaker 1 I think they wore white last year. They wore white.

Speaker 1 So in red, they're one and one. Yeah.
Okay. So they're beatable.
They're beatable and beatable in red.

Speaker 9 And they can win. And they can win.

Speaker 1 But they're beatable.

Speaker 1 That's like all the stats and everything that I've looked up this past, you know, whatever, however long we've been thinking about the Super Bowl is it just always leads back to these two teams are really good.

Speaker 1 I don't know who's going to win. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I'm fucked. I just, I love the idea of Brock Purdy winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 9 And then for the next like 10 years, people are going to be like, you know, you just got to find like a Brock Purdy in the seventh round of the draft.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's all I gave him a little bit of money. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 Man, I'll tell you what. When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 22 That's where Snickers comes in, man.

Speaker 17 That thing is packed. Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 17 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 22 Snickers satisfies, man.

Speaker 5 That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Okay, here he is. George Kittle.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest, one of our good friends.

Speaker 1 You can't tell the story of the history of Pardon My Take without George Kittle.

Speaker 1 We're here Super Bowl week. He was able to get us access to the hotel.

Speaker 1 George, first of all, thank you for doing that. We're excited to have you back on

Speaker 1 back at the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Well, first, thanks for having me back. I'm still wearing my recurring guest shirt.
It's somewhere in the middle. It's coming, yeah, it's coming, it's coming.

Speaker 1 I said it a while ago, right?

Speaker 9 Like three years ago, three people have those shirts. I think Rachel Nichols has one, Spencer Hawes has one, and Randy Moss has the other.

Speaker 1 Yeah, those are three good people to have them. Well, the horse racing Randy Moss.
The white Randy Moss. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, all right, so you, so we have told this story before, but the first time we ever met George was when we were actually at 49ers camp in 2018. That's your rookie year.

Speaker 1 It was 18 because McVinci was there. 18, and we interviewed Kyle Shanahan and

Speaker 1 John Lynch and Joe Staley. And Staley said to us, they're like, hey, we got this rookie tight end who's a big fan of you guys.
Can you just take a picture? And we're like, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1 We'll take a picture with a fan. It turns out he's the best tight end in the league.
So that was fun. And then we had you on for the Super Bowl in Miami.
Yeah. Didn't go great.

Speaker 1 But my first question is, that clip of you on the sideline, are you sick of that clip yet? Of you saying, I will be back. I get tagged in a bunch.

Speaker 1 A bunch, sure. I'm like, I do a pretty good job of like not diving into all the like the Super Bowl social media stuff.
So I don't see it too often.

Speaker 1 I do if I click on the tag button, that's most of my tagged photos and tweets. What are they called? Are they still called tweets? Yeah, like X's

Speaker 9 posts, X videos. Yeah, you're featured on one of the most viewed X videos of all time, which is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 You and Drake. It is what it is.

Speaker 1 Have you seen the Drake video?

Speaker 1 He burst onto the scene this morning. Did he not?

Speaker 9 I think he leaked that himself.

Speaker 1 He looks good. He looks great.
He looks good. I saw, they saw him talk about it.
They're like, it doesn't hurt him by the end of it. Yeah, no, not at all.

Speaker 1 And someone who has bad angles all the time on the internet, I would say that was a good angle. That was a great angle.
That was a great angle.

Speaker 9 But in that clip, it wasn't that you said, like, I will be back. You said, I will be back with a vengeance.
So do you have a vengeance right now?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's building up. You know, it's not something like I'm not sitting in vengeance right now, like just.

Speaker 1 you know, like oozing vengeance. No, it's nothing like that.
It's just,

Speaker 1 you know, you learn from your opportunities. I mean, you can like sit and sarah and stuff like that.
Or I also like my dad always tells me, speak things into existence. So like,

Speaker 1 hey, man, that one got away from me. I want to be back, speak it into existence, and now I have another opportunity.
And, you know, hopefully you'll see that side of me on Sunday.

Speaker 9 I want to see vengeance on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I do too.

Speaker 1 I would love to see it.

Speaker 1 Would that mean I win? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would love to see that though. Are you treating it like you've been to a Super Bowl? So have you, are you doing anything different? Or are you just like, it's football.
We're playing football.

Speaker 1 Playing football, like, I definitely learned things.

Speaker 1 Like, the biggest thing, like, when you go to a Super Bowl, like, the flashing lights, the interviews, the people that want to take you places, the restaurants are like, oh, hey, come eat here.

Speaker 1 Your agent wants to get food with you. My agent actually hasn't asked me to, so good for him.
Yep. But like, that's like the story I hear from everybody.
And I think the last time we went to Miami,

Speaker 1 I think, you know, you get caught up in the hype of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And I think it's the team who like does the best job of like sticking to your routine, making sure your body's healthy, your mind's healthy, and that you're ready to roll and not really worrying about the outside stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So I think that's one of of the best things we've learned as a team.
Annoying podcasters asking you to come on their show.

Speaker 10 No,

Speaker 1 this is always great for me. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 We appreciate that very much.

Speaker 1 It's very funny how we're set up. We have the NFL gives us no access whatsoever, doesn't want us near anything.

Speaker 1 And then this would be two years in a row where we're just like waltz into the team hotel. Yeah.
Like, yeah, we're okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like you guys. Yeah.
You guys have my stamp of approval.

Speaker 9 I appreciate that.

Speaker 9 Last time, it was before the Super Bowl, we interviewed you, and you talked about your dad writing you the letters. Yeah.
Did did he blame himself for not writing a good enough letter?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 9 is I because I bet you he's going to have a hell of a letter for you on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I will say he definitely was like, wow, that's actually a great, that's a great question. You know, internally, he probably blames himself, but he would never say that to me.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you know what? I think me and Big Cat made you a visual letter. I think we put a video.

Speaker 1 Do you want to do that again? Or do we have a video?

Speaker 9 No, we don't do it. I think maybe it's us.
We should take the blame for that.

Speaker 1 You should take the blame. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I've told you that I'm doing Game of the Year right now, as of right now in the chiefs which is good for you because i'm the worst gambler ever i am my heart is all niners i want you to win a super bowl very very badly that i will like get in front of the train and hopefully lose money for you to win a super bowl because i want you to be a super bowl winner how could you be a better friend than that yeah it's like i just want i want you to have you need you deserve a super bowl ring thank you and you you seem like a guy who wears it all the time if you get one I would I would like to wear it.

Speaker 1 That'd be fun.

Speaker 1 That'd be a fun opportunity. I also noticed that you've officially made it.
And I want to say you've made it because I feel like you don't make it until one of those Twitter ex-guys,

Speaker 1 influencers, like a Joe Pumpliano or one of those guys, does a long thread about someone. So I saw there was a long thread about you the other day.
Was there?

Speaker 4 Which was very cool. What was it?

Speaker 1 I didn't know some of the stories. So it was basically about your perseverance and making yourself.

Speaker 1 My mom told me that, yeah. Yeah, it was very cool.
So I had no idea. And you could tell the story, obviously, because it's your life.
but you

Speaker 1 on national signing day, there was a chance you were just not going to go to Iowa. Yeah, there was.
So what exactly transpired? They basically, I didn't talk to a single coach.

Speaker 1 Like, I went to a couple of Iowa football camps growing up.

Speaker 1 You know, did fine. But like in high school, I was like 6'1.5, 6'2 ⁇ , 175 pounds.

Speaker 1 Not a lot going on there. And so my dad was in contact with one of their coaches because my dad played there.
Kirk Ferris was in my dad's wedding, my parents' wedding.

Speaker 1 So they had that relationship. And they're like, hey, we have a couple scholarship offers out.

Speaker 1 If they all say no, hey, George might get one.

Speaker 1 If they say yes, we know we can talk about doing like a gray shirt, which is like, you know, you show up a whole semester early and you start that following offseason. That would have been tough.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Those, that's not fun.

Speaker 1 But there's like, and then on signing day, like chilling, I have an offer from Weber State, Air Force, and Navy. That's my three offers.

Speaker 13 Super sick.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. You've been awesome at Navy.

Speaker 1 You literally were told, like, yeah, there's two guys that if they say yes, you're just shit out of luck.

Speaker 1 So, like, two guys said no, and then they gave a scholarship to an offensive lineman, defensive lineman from Illinois, and then I got the last one.

Speaker 13 That's insane.

Speaker 1 That was awesome. And, like, if like, you'd have to, do you think about that moment where it's like, hey, things could have been very different.

Speaker 1 If you go to Air Force, Navy, like, you probably can't play in the pros because you got to be in the Air Force of the Navy. You're not wrong.
Yeah. Yeah.
It would have been, it would have been.

Speaker 1 And now you're the best tight end. Travis Kelsey said that, by the way, you're the best tight tight end in the NFL.
Thanks, Travis. It's an awesome story.
I had no idea.

Speaker 1 And the whole thread also was like, you know, when he got there, he was small and he was. Yeah, he's stunk.

Speaker 1 But Kirk Ference was basically like, this guy doesn't quit. He's got a motor.
And getting into, what was it between your sophomore and junior year or junior and senior year?

Speaker 1 Going into my retro junior and retro senior, like my retro junior year, so like my fourth year of college, like that's when the switch, like the light bulb went off.

Speaker 11 And I was like, ah, football.

Speaker 1 What was it? What was it that flipped for you?

Speaker 1 it was a combination of the bowl game we played in the tax layer bowl and we lost like a billion to zero to Tennessee okay

Speaker 1 what was it that's like an Iowa tradition it is an Iowa tradition I was 0 for 4 in bowl games so it was super fun okay um but like we lost that game and I was like fourth on the depth chart and I got younger guys ahead of me and stuff and I was like oh this this sucks like I'm definitely not like I'm not gonna achieve my dream I have like I have two years left I've been kind of like squandering a little bit and then literally that offseason that's like whatever whatever, winter workouts and stuff like that, Pat Inger was in the building.

Speaker 1 And Kirk Ference always told a story about how Pat, like his first two and a half years at Iowa, just kind of got hammered, went out all the time, was lit like, and then he would fight people.

Speaker 1 So he'd get in trouble all the time. I just asked him, I was like, what, like, what switch flip for you? And he was like, I was like, I just realized that I like football a lot.

Speaker 1 And I like that more than partying. And I was like, huh, I like the party and I love football.
So, okay, I'm going to try that same thing. Literally just kind of reprioritized my goals.

Speaker 1 and it just kind of a switch flip for me started making plays in practice and then not gonna lie either like i there were a couple injuries ahead of me too and so like i just got thrown into an opportunity i took advantage of it that's awesome yeah that's i mean it's just it's crazy to because you see everyone who's playing in the super bowl you're like oh they were the best for their whole life like they were you know studs like no it's it's that that type of grind yeah it's a grind people don't see so i'm happy for that thread that got posted thank you man yeah it was a fun one man what about when you get to the league was there because we were talking to max crosby the other day, and he was saying that he got motherfucked for his first like six weeks, eight weeks of being on the team in camp.

Speaker 9 They would pull up all his clips and practice, be like, wow, you did everything wrong here, basically.

Speaker 9 So when you got to the NFL, did you like hit the ground running, or was there like a big learning curve for you?

Speaker 1 A little bit of both. What was really beneficial for me was with Coach Shanahan's run game.

Speaker 1 outside zone gap scheme that's what we did at iowa so like when they showed up like i was like oh i know how to do this like that's good i'm great and um like and like, it took me a while to, you know, get used to blocking like all NFL football players and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 But, like, I did a really good job in rookie mini camp. OTAs did a great job.
My first training camp, like, I got hurt. Like, I think it was like the first day of pads.
I pulled my hamstring.

Speaker 1 That was tough. But, like, I was doing really well in the run game stuff.
So, like, I had no worries there. And then the past game stuff, I just kind of picked up.

Speaker 1 But, like, I made some big plays and OTAs. Like, they were like, oh, this kid can play a little bit.
And then, like, I had one preseason game where I scored a touchdown.

Speaker 1 CJ threw me a ball in the flat and I ran. I like broke a tackle in the end zone.
And they traded our our starting tight end the next day.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 hey,

Speaker 1 you're like the Leo meme, like me, it's me now. I was like, what?

Speaker 1 I'm not, what? Yeah. And then, but, like, I did have that also, like, the, like, I did get yelled at.
I'll never forget my rookie year. We're playing Minnesota in a preseason game.

Speaker 1 And, like, I wouldn't say I was going through the motions. I was just kind of like, wow, this is really cool.
I'm an NFL football player.

Speaker 1 But, like, I didn't have like, I wasn't like dialed in at that time. And I had like three or four MAs in a row in the first half.

Speaker 1 And I come in at halftime and my old tight ends coach, he's in Miami now, John Embry. He like,

Speaker 1 I'm like going in to listen to Kyle like break down, hey, this is what we're going to do. And then one of the guys like, hey, Embry wants to see you in the coach locker.
I'm like, oh, great.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a great conversation. I go in there.
I've never been yelled at like that in my entire life. And John Embry's like, I view him like he's like my dad in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Nothing but respect for the guy. Like he's one of the reasons I am where I am today.
And like just helped me develop a mindset.

Speaker 1 But he was basically just said, he was like, what do you think you're doing? Like, you are squandering your opportunity. You have an opportunity to be a starting tight end in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Figure it out. Are you going to play? Are you just going to screw it off and you're going to lose this opportunity? You're never going to have an opportunity again.
Like, this is your opportunity.

Speaker 1 Go do something. Light switch flip.
Had a great second half, played at a high level, and it just kind of took off from there. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1 So if you had to pick right now,

Speaker 1 scoring a touchdown

Speaker 1 or pancake block, because you had both in these playoffs so far. You had the touchdown against the Packers, and then you had the pancake block on Aiden Hutchinson, which was football porn.

Speaker 1 Which one do you like to do more? That was literally just for the NFC North, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you did. Yeah, you just conquered the NFC North.
I did text you before the Packers came. I was like, you are my Lord and Savior.
Please protect me. That was a great meme.

Speaker 1 And you were like, I got you. That was a great meme that you sent me.
Yeah, I needed it. Oh, you didn't need it.

Speaker 1 In the Super Bowl, I think I would take a touchdown because, like, those are hard to come by. Yeah.
But, yeah, I mean, like, dude, you get a nice block and Christian runs right off of it.

Speaker 1 And he goes for 20 yards and just like, ah, that was very fulfilling. So, yeah, I like pancaking people, especially defensive ends.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you also love just catching the ball and just dominating people. You do not want to go down.
No, why would I? I don't get, like, I don't get. That many opportunities.

Speaker 1 So when I get the ball, I don't really want to get tackled. Yeah.
Yeah. I like to score.

Speaker 9 The pancake on Aiden was great because when we watched it, we were like, I guarantee you he's laughing during this play. And then NFL Films puts out the clip later in the week.

Speaker 9 And it was like, yeah, you are laughing like during the play. And what was the word he said? Proprioceptive.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you messed with his proprioceptiveness.

Speaker 1 Our helmets got a little clicked together. And he was like, I messed with my proprioception.
And I was like,

Speaker 1 that's not a football word.

Speaker 9 That's a kid from Michigan.

Speaker 9 That's a Michigan guy being like, you beat the fuck out of me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess. I was like, I'm more of like a proturbation guy.
Like, that's the term that I would use. But like, proprioception, sure, I get it.

Speaker 1 But I think like 75% of the people that watched that were like, I got to Google that. Yeah.

Speaker 9 How often do you laugh during a game?

Speaker 1 75% of it. Yeah.
I'm just chuckling to myself the entire time.

Speaker 9 Because it must be fun to just run people over. I would laugh too.
It'd be like the highlight of my life.

Speaker 1 I just like, I see like Debo make a cool catch. I'm like, ah, he's really good.
That's so cool.

Speaker 9 So you want a touchdown. You want a touchdown Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I love a touchdown. I get that.
I also, I was just told downstairs that an Iowa player has never scored in the Super Bowl before. Oh, wow.

Speaker 9 It would be a big first.

Speaker 1 What is it about Iowa that you guys just can't play offense and then you have the best tight ends in the league? It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Porter, Hawkinson, you, no fan.

Speaker 1 But then you watch Iowa football. They had more punt yards than offensive yards.
Troy Taylor punt God. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what, man? I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's a combination of, you know, they have a lot of young guys.
Recruiting's a part of it. Like, I'm not in the building every single day.

Speaker 1 I don't see it, but like the defense obviously is doing the really good things or coached well. Like, I think the teams coach well.
It's just, you just just got to have,

Speaker 1 I think they just got to have to kind of reboot the offense. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You just got to try something different. Like, Wisconsin tried something different.
Like, was it amazingly successful? No. But was it better than Iowa's? Yeah.
It was.

Speaker 1 Like, just try something different. Because if you keep pouring out like a top five offense and top five special teams unit and you have a top 80 offense, you're going to win games.

Speaker 1 And the fact that they won 10 games this year is crazy. It's crazy.

Speaker 9 You should have won 11. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They should have. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So the game was BS. Yeah.
No, it wasn't. Can you imagine if they won 11 games? What if they would have stuck into the playoffs?

Speaker 9 Honestly, that's what I was rooting for.

Speaker 1 I think you tweeted something about that or X something about that. It was crazy because I think I'm the only one.
Like, I always think the Badgers and the Hawkeyes are kind of like long lost.

Speaker 1 I said they're like Kane and Undertaker. They're like, they're long-lost brothers where they play very similar style of football.

Speaker 1 And then we went to the running gun this year and you guys just keep sucking at offense, but you're winning games.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I might be the only football fan in the world who was like, I kind of want that. Like, I wish that we were Iowa this year because there's something about it.
Like, you're winning games.

Speaker 1 That's what's the cool part. Winning is fun.
It doesn't matter how it happens, just winning is fun.

Speaker 13 Winning is so much fun.

Speaker 1 Like, every game was like 12 to 6.

Speaker 4 That's just crazy.

Speaker 1 That's incredible.

Speaker 1 I think their over-under was like 30 in all their games, and they still went like 11 to 1. Didn't they have like two of the lowest over-unders this year in the history of college football?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was just one.

Speaker 9 It was Northwestern.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 28 and a half. 28 and a half.

Speaker 9 I bet the over on that at Wrigley Field.

Speaker 1 And it was just, it was the under?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, big time. I think think there were maybe 10, 7 or something.
Yeah, incredible.

Speaker 9 I respect the hell out of Iowa fans because they show up and they are the drunkest fan base I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 They drink more than anything. They drank Wrigley Field out.
Yeah, they did. They drank out Wrigleyville, too.
The bars ran out of beer.

Speaker 9 There was a guy that was.

Speaker 1 I went to dinner before the game, like the Friday night before the game, and I went to like a nice steakhouse, and it was just full of people wearing their nicest Iowa pullovers.

Speaker 1 Pullovers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pullovers.

Speaker 1 I got my golf shirt. Like, I'm getting dressed up tonight for a steak.
Got to have high oil on.

Speaker 9 Before the game kicked off, I was in the bathroom at Wrigley Field, and they have like the troth-style urinal.

Speaker 1 Amazing.

Speaker 9 And this dude comes in, Iowa fan, head to toe, and just goes up right next to me at the troth, takes his pants down, and starts to take a shit

Speaker 1 in the troth.

Speaker 1 Dude, dude's roth.

Speaker 1 And everyone in the bathroom was like, dude, stop, stop, stop. Don't do that, man.

Speaker 9 The game hasn't kicked off yet. Wait till halftime for this, bro.
But yeah, I do respect Iowa football.

Speaker 9 Do you have a touchdown celebration plan in Casey's court?

Speaker 1 Well, I got asked this yesterday because it's on Nickelodeon, so I was like, there has to be like some type of SpongeBob dance that you can do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like they'll bring it around town or something like that. SpongeBob is a football guy.
Jim Harbaugh taught us that. He's one of

Speaker 1 Jim Harbaugh's relentless enthusiasm. Yeah, he just goes to work every day flipping patties.

Speaker 9 He loves it.

Speaker 1 He loves the grabby. What do you think a Krabby Patty? Like, what burger do you think most closely a Krabby Patty would relate to?

Speaker 1 Probably,

Speaker 9 are they square?

Speaker 1 This is a problem. So

Speaker 1 you've unfortunately hit a point where PFT and I are a little too old. Max is laughing right now because you kind of miss SpongeBob.
But you know what a Krabby Patty is. Kind of

Speaker 9 the burgers that he makes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the burgers that he makes.

Speaker 1 You have no idea. We watched one SpongeBob episode

Speaker 1 super high. Yeah, they're not there yet, though.
We did.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 intelligently, like they're not, can't watch that yet? No, they just

Speaker 1 watch weird, like, fucking.

Speaker 1 I watched these two Russian kids named Vlad and Nikki

Speaker 1 play with their toys. It's fucked up.
What's the chick on YouTube that has like a billion followers? Ms. Rachel.
Yeah, Ms. Rachel.
I've heard about her. Listen,

Speaker 1 when a kid finds a new show, you're just like, oh my God, like this is going to be painful. But yeah, I look forward to the day I get to Spongebob.

Speaker 1 But yeah, PFT and I, we watched one SpongeBob episode like super, super high. And we're like, this was funny, but I don't.
Yeah, we missed it.

Speaker 13 I wish we were Spongebob.

Speaker 9 It is funny.

Speaker 18 Like, I appreciate the show.

Speaker 9 I could probably go back and watch the entire catalog right now.

Speaker 1 The first, like, 10 years is phenomenal television. That's a lot of.
years? That's how many years?

Speaker 1 What are they on now? It's been on for like

Speaker 1 20 something? It's got to be 20 or 20. Yeah.
It's like

Speaker 1 the first 10 years are absolutely outrageous. Fuck.

Speaker 9 Okay. Do a Spongebob dance.
I like that.

Speaker 9 Yeah. That's a good idea.
Always dab again. Let me ask you.
He was coming back.

Speaker 1 It will never die as long as I'm here, man. Yeah.
I love the dab. So the playoff games this year, you guys have come back big time in both games.

Speaker 1 Were you guys aware of the Kyle Shanahan stat that they show on Fox?

Speaker 1 Dude, the the amount of that's all I get asked the entire week. So, after every loss, did you guys know that you

Speaker 1 by me? Did you guys sell it? Did you tell Kyle after? You're like, hey, dude, you did it. You got one.
You did it.

Speaker 11 No, I didn't say it to Kyle.

Speaker 1 I should, I'll go say it to him right now after this. He's at two now, I think.
Dude, hey, look at him. Look at us.
Yeah, look at us.

Speaker 1 You know, what's tough about that stat, too, is like our first two years, we weren't very good. Yeah, you were like, wasn't there a year you guys were two and 14? No,

Speaker 1 that was 16. That was before us.
That was right before. My rookie year, year, we started the year 0-9.
Yeah. And then Jimmy G came, we won the last five.
Pause. We won the last five games.

Speaker 1 And then the next year, he got hurt and we went four and twelve. It's just like, yeah, we're not.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's just a tough stat. Like, we didn't, we weren't a good team.
Right. If you're down 21 in the fourth quarter, that unfortunately adds to the stat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like, okay, we weren't going to come back. We were down 14 points often.
That's true. All right.
So that stat is bullshit. It is.

Speaker 9 It is bullshit. When did you know that you were going to win, though? When did you think, okay, we got this?

Speaker 1 the lions game yeah um

Speaker 1 when they went for it on fourth down

Speaker 1 oh damn it we've defended dan campbell on that when they when he when that didn't hit and we go down and score a touchdown instantly and then we got the fumble i was like ah yeah that's out of the bag like i would say it's we're rolling it's the best um the best way to determine whether or not a call is correct or not isn't necessarily through numbers.

Speaker 9 It's like what the opposing team and their fans want you to do in that situation. So did you want him to go for it on fourth down?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You didn't want a field goal? Even though the kicker is not very good? He looked great that night.

Speaker 1 Favorite trip shot? All those trip shots, they were so slow and so soft, they just got it kind of felt.

Speaker 1 We're going to cut this part of the podcast.

Speaker 9 So you were hoping for him to go for a fourth down.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 I'm not in the defensive meetings, but I think we planned him to go for every fourth down, like fourth and four or less. We're like, they're probably going to go for it.
Like, why not?

Speaker 1 Would it have been equal momentum if he had attempted a field goal and missed? I think it would have been very

Speaker 1 good. That would have been, yeah,

Speaker 1 there we go.

Speaker 9 We're back. Justify.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, like, either one, like, and

Speaker 1 the fact that they did that the entire season, that's like, that's their ML. Like, that is their identity.
So, like, okay, like, if you're a player on that staff, how could you be mad at doing that?

Speaker 1 Right. You should.
They went for the kill. Yep.
They did.

Speaker 18 They went for the kill because you score a touchdown there and you go up would have been 21.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 That's, that's kind of a tough one to come back from. That was always our point with how Dan Campbell coached this year.
It's like,

Speaker 1 for us sitting on the couch, we're like, what the fuck is he doing? But everyone on that sideline knows before the game, like, these are the situations we're attacking.

Speaker 1 What's that, like, high school coach that they never punted? Yeah, that guy rocked. Yeah,

Speaker 1 for sure. But just like when you have that mindset of like, hey, if we get it to within fourth and three, we're going for it no matter what.
Like, you just have like a confidence about it.

Speaker 1 And it's just like, your whole team has that confidence. So it's like, yeah, why would we not go for it? We've done it the entire season.
And I'm assuming their percentage on it's pretty good, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was 17 for 20 on fourth and three or less. Pretty damn good.
Yeah, why would you not?

Speaker 1 Like, again, even if you bleed off another three minutes on the clock, even if you kick a field goal three plays later,

Speaker 1 a chip shot, you're still running time off the clock. Like, yeah.
Now, hey, I'm happy that they went for it and missed. Awesome.

Speaker 1 So, all right, the other game, the Packers game, I said you dropped a ball. I did.

Speaker 1 But I said that you are probably the number one guy

Speaker 1 who drops a ball and you're like, all right, Kale's going to do something awesome coming up.

Speaker 1 When you drop a ball, are you like, I'm next play, like, throw it to me right now. I'm ready to go.
Yeah, please give me the ball back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry that I had a lapse of football brain yeah because it does feel like you bounce back faster than anyone yeah man you got to flip the switch you just it like you what i've learned in football is like you can't let things snowball good or bad like you can have a great play but if like you go into the next play like oh dude i'm so cool and stuff who knows like you can like get your legs taking out from underneath your shit like that so like i just try to reset after every single play and but like when you have a mess up and also like i feel like i hold myself to a high standard of play it's like when you do something like that you're like all right let's not do that again let's just let's just go out there and do something good all right so i was right do you just wipe it Do you just like act like the play didn't happen?

Speaker 9 Or do you use it as motivation? Like, next play, I got this. Because I feel like those are two very different.

Speaker 1 Like, it's flushed for me. Like, I didn't think about it again until people tweeted at me and they were like, I hate you.
And I was like,

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I caught a ball two plays later.
I'm sorry. Yeah.
My bad. The rain was bad, though.
Dude, that was crazy. Yeah.
It is crazy.

Speaker 1 It's like then you switch to the leather gloves, which are awesome. Like when it's really wet, those things are like glue.
It's super cool.

Speaker 1 But like the second it stops raining and the ball's dry, very slippery. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so like you can see like in the like I literally just turned my head because like if you're wearing the normal the normal sticky gloves like you can you don't have to like you can catch it.

Speaker 1 Like it's pretty easy. Those things ball hit just slipped right through them and I looked I was like oh gosh damn.
Well, are you are you ready for the turf? In Vegas?

Speaker 1 Because I don't want I don't want another turf incident.

Speaker 9 Well, two years in a row, we've got the sod father pulling his tricks. Last year in the Super Bowl, this year, they got you on UNLV's field, which I guess you guys are practicing on pillows.

Speaker 9 I don't know how soft that is.

Speaker 9 Is that overblown or is that a real thing?

Speaker 1 To me, it's overblown. Okay.
Like,

Speaker 1 oh, excuse me. Nice.
That was a good thing. Coffee burp.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 To me, it's overblown. Like, I've played on bad fields.
I've played on bad fields in the NFL. I've practiced on bad fields.

Speaker 1 Like, we were in Colorado Springs last year and our practice field, it was frozen, and there were divots everywhere. And we still practice.

Speaker 1 Like, now, granted, it wasn't like a full speed thing, but like, we got through it. It's field is not that.
Okay. They're trying really hard on it.
They're out there. They're drying it.

Speaker 1 Was it a little soft because of the water? Like, yeah, it poured rain three days in a row. It's a new grass.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But by the time we get there tomorrow, I'm not really concerned with it. Yeah.
Yeah. But you got to be ready.
You got to bring some extra cleats for.

Speaker 1 Like they wheel this grass in. I don't fucking.

Speaker 1 We've talked like, hey, have your seven studs ready. Okay.
That type of stuff. You know what's crazy, though? Like 2019, we played in Washington and that

Speaker 1 monsoon, the Mud Bowl thing. I didn't wear seven studs in that.
Like I've never worn seven studs. I always just wear my cleats.
I don't slip very often though. Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 You did last year when the that game was crazy, I didn't play in that one. Okay.
Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 The mayor of Chicago asked me to not play in that game so you guys could get a win. Yes.
And then, don't you remember that guy?

Speaker 9 Then he tweeted out you guys all predicted that the Bears, how many games did you win, too?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it was how many games was it? Two? It was, yeah, he was the Bears were two and one. He's like, huh, so much for these media pundits being like, the Bears are going to suck this year.

Speaker 1 And they're going to win 2-14.

Speaker 1 3-14, and then we went 3-14. We're 2-1 to 3-14.
It was great. I was like, that was the best thing.
He Great Gabriel. Yeah, it was so good.
So good. Such a great tweet.

Speaker 13 Such an idiot.

Speaker 9 You did play in DC this year, though, so that's a bad field. Mike, that was fine.
It was good this year. That was fine.

Speaker 1 I didn't notice it.

Speaker 1 Some grass fields in December, they're a little slick and there's some sand in it and stuff. But

Speaker 1 I'd rather play on that. Cincinnati's turf fields, brutal.

Speaker 1 New Orleans turf field, brutal. I don't know how those guys play on it every, because like how sore you are after doing stuff on turf, like your ankles,

Speaker 1 your joints. It's just like, oh, my God.
Like, I have to sleep in a nice tummy. Yeah.
And And like, when you play on grass, like, I never feel like that.

Speaker 1 Like, there's other bumps and bruises, but like, it just adds to it. We're a grass podcast for sure.
We're for the players. Thank you.
Player safety.

Speaker 11 How did we convince the World Cup?

Speaker 1 Oh, because oh, they're changing it. Yeah, still.
They're changing it for the soccer players. Yeah, so they're all for the soccer players.
They're changing it.

Speaker 9 They're bringing grass on all stadiums that are turf, and they're also not using the names of the stadiums. They're just being like, it's Dallas Stadium.

Speaker 9 It's New York Stadium. San Francisco Stadium.

Speaker 1 Yeah, FIFA. Is it San Francisco Stadium or Santa Clara Stadium? Santa Clara.
Santa Clara Stadium. Probably.

Speaker 9 Ooh. Yeah.
I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 1 All right. So your quarterback gets a lot of,

Speaker 1 let's say, media fodder. Ooh.
That's a good word. Brock Purdy, for some reason, it's every single game.
It's like, if he has not a great game, he stinks. If he has a great game, he's elite.

Speaker 1 Does he like tune out all of that? And I would assume that you guys have full trust in him. Like, it's kind of funny to you to see all this discussion.
Tune out, yes.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's not very active on social media at all, which like good for him.

Speaker 1 yeah as you shouldn't be like when you're the quarterback of the San Francisco 49ers and you're following Joe Lontan and Steve Young the expectations are pretty high for you when you like you lace it up you know quarterback so I think he does a good job he doesn't really do any social media stuff like I think he has like two posts this whole year which is like hey good for you men like he's just focused on winning

Speaker 1 and yeah I think the everybody has confidence in him everyone has trust in him like you just see the plays he makes you're like oh wow like he had four interceptions for his ball throw after the third round I was like hey please keep throwing it don't get scared like don't don't sit back there and like I I don't know if I should just throw it.

Speaker 1 It happens, man. Like, we're going to get through this with her.
Like, we're not going to get through this without you. Like, we need you.

Speaker 1 So, like, you're the guy that we're really good because of you. Yeah.

Speaker 9 It breaks my heart that he's not active on social media. And you probably haven't seen this yet, but this just came out today, a comparison of Brock Purdy to another guy in American history.

Speaker 9 Let me show you, because it's actually fascinating. So,

Speaker 9 FDR? Here we go right here. This is from

Speaker 9 Josh Chavis.

Speaker 9 Been trying to figure out who Brock Purdy looks like for the last two years and it's lee harvey oswald and look at that there's brock and then there's lee yeah pretty wild huh kind of look like gunslingers that that middle photo looks yeah i'll give it that one yeah that's you can see it right yeah maybe show that to brock will you send that to me yeah 100 throw it to him yeah

Speaker 1 dude uh what were you doing yeah

Speaker 1 are you back from the dead um all right so

Speaker 1 given the fact that you guys are in the super bowl this year yeah we are uh that's cool last year obviously Brock got hurt in the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 I think the fact that you're in the Super Bowl just proves that you guys were way better than the Eagles.

Speaker 1 I said it.

Speaker 9 50, do you agree? I think you would have won that game.

Speaker 1 I was a huge fan of our game plan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was a huge fan of everything. Yeah, a lot of Eagles fan.
None in this room, Max,

Speaker 1 are rooting hard against you because they're trying to keep the sanctity of their NFC championship alive. No, don't do that.
Yeah, well, no.

Speaker 1 It's a totally different year, man. And, like, look.
He doesn't, he thinks it's the same year. Look, so this is my thing, too.
Like, if you're an Eagles fan, you should 100% believe that

Speaker 1 you would have won that game regardless. You guys had Eagles were fantastic last year.
Like, they played at a high level, beat the crap out of everybody.

Speaker 1 And you can see, like, on the tape, like, yeah, they kind of ran through our defense last year. You could say that.

Speaker 1 But, like, you also, you look at Brock Purdy and be like, you can't lie and not say, like, that would have been at least a close game. Yeah, for sure.
Like, 31 to 7, was that a realistic score? No.

Speaker 1 No, no. Not at all.
No. No, hey.

Speaker 1 If Brock would have played the whole game, we would have have lost like 21-17. Sure, like it is what it is.

Speaker 1 But like, I believe that we would have won with Brock because I think he's such a good player.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I think you would have, too.

Speaker 1 Or at least it would have been a close game. Because everyone's like, oh, we beat you by 24.
I'm like, dude, come on. I didn't have a quarterback for two quarters.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, yeah, I'm not disagreeing with that, that it would have been a close game. At least.
Obviously, not having a quarterback.

Speaker 1 is going to take points off of the board for a football team. Yeah, that's

Speaker 1 what I've been doing.

Speaker 1 When Christian McCaffrey's playing quarterback and you have 11 guys on the box,

Speaker 1 that was pretty good for us.

Speaker 2 That was pretty good for the Eagles.

Speaker 1 If I was an Niners fan in that situation, I would have had a huge, I would be like, ah, you guys stink.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, I've just gotten a lot of

Speaker 2 Niners fans are strong online.

Speaker 18 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But like over any fan base, even like Cowboys fans, I get more shit from Niners fans about the Eagles than the Cowboys do.

Speaker 1 The Faithful don't forget, man.

Speaker 2 So that's why I've been battling Niners fans all year.

Speaker 2 And it wasn't great when you beat the shit out of us this year.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 9 So you're saying this right now, but also, if the Niners lose in the Super Bowl, you're going to take a victory label for sure.

Speaker 2 Well, it depends how they lose because we also lost to the Chiefs last year.

Speaker 1 True. But you won this year.
So I mean, we get to win this year, right? Can I show you something funny? Yeah.

Speaker 1 This was like three weeks after we beat the Eagles. My buddy for the Predators, Phil Forsberg, they were going to play Philadelphia Flyers, and he sends me this photo.

Speaker 1 They're on the bus of the game, and this was outside of a coffee shop. Tebow wasn't lying.
It's a sign outside of a Philadelphia coffee shop that said Tebow wasn't lying. Yeah, well,

Speaker 2 that was a big discourse. And then

Speaker 2 because everyone was ready to be like, shut the fuck up, Debo. We're better anyway.
And then we got.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And that started the demise of Philly Finn.
And he also had three touchdowns. Yeah.
Yeah, true. Good point.
Yeah, he went off.

Speaker 1 The biggest player on the field.

Speaker 9 When Big Dom got kicked out, were you like, oh, we got this game?

Speaker 1 That whole sequence of events, I was like, there's no way that we're about to just give this game up. Because, first off, Dre Greenlaw, one of our best players on defense, gone.

Speaker 1 And then we had two 15-hour penalties on that drive. I'm like, we're about to give up a touchdown, and they're going to have all the momentum in the world.

Speaker 1 But then, fortunately, we were able to go back and answer an offense that kind of settled it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Big Dom, losing Dre Greenlaw is

Speaker 11 like you can figure out a game plan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll figure out a game. Losing Big Dom, that ended the the season, right? Yeah, that ruined the season.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he wasn't on the sideline for any game, right? No,

Speaker 1 he was allowed to coach during the week.

Speaker 1 I think he was in a box, too. He's not a coach.
He couldn't run his sidelines. He was allowed to coach during the week.
You know, I've heard nothing but the fantastic things about Big Tom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he's a legend. We're a Big Dom podcast.

Speaker 1 I would love to meet him. I would love to meet him, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 He's a legend. Do you guys have anybody on the team that's an unsung hero, like Big Dom?

Speaker 1 I got a couple. Well, Mike A., he's our head of security.

Speaker 1 He's a cool dude.

Speaker 1 He was like a motorcycle cop in Oakland for a long time, which was pretty sick. That's sick.

Speaker 1 He's the head of security for Titan U.

Speaker 1 He comes out for Titan U every single year, which is sick. Love that.
And then we have a guy in the kitchen. His name's Luis.
And he just walks up to he goes, Super Kettle, have a great day today.

Speaker 1 But he says that to everybody. Oh,

Speaker 1 Super Berde.

Speaker 1 Dude, this is fantastic. Oh, that's a Vibes guy.
Oh, Vibes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is he here? He's like, yeah, he's here. He's like 5'5.
It's incredible. Oh, that's awesome.
Super Luis. That's what I say to him.
It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 Did you see David Carr say that you're better looking than Travis Kelsey?

Speaker 9 It was weird. I'm married.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Thanks.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Well, he was like, yeah, Taylor Swift,

Speaker 9 if she saw Greg, she'd be like,

Speaker 9 maybe I picked the wrong tight end.

Speaker 9 That's a weird thing to say.

Speaker 10 Like,

Speaker 1 you're married. Yeah.
Super weird thing to say, but thanks. Yeah, I think it's a thanks.

Speaker 1 I think it's a thanks. It's a compliment.
Just like from, I don't know, as weird.

Speaker 9 I think you're hotter than Travis Kelsey. Thank you, man.

Speaker 1 I think I liked your style of football better than i liked travis kelcey's style of football hey look we both play the same position we just play it differently and in an elite level have you guys talked at all this week yeah i saw him last night for a little bit okay that's about it yeah because he was at teu he was gonna is he coming back yeah no matter what happens on sunday i i would hope so because like i lost and then i went to tighten you oh that's true so i would assume that he would do the same well you did you did like create tight end you with with greg so you kind of would have to they literally play it in your backyard they do play my backyard but like so like you'd say the founding fathers it'd be me, Travis, and Greg.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. So, like, he'll be there.
Oh, yeah. I would assume he's going to be there.
Okay. All right.
Unless he's a crazy busy guy, though.

Speaker 9 I can't imagine. Can't imagine.

Speaker 1 A lot of commercials. We're going to, we're going to, we're not going to talk about it.

Speaker 9 A lot of commercials.

Speaker 1 Other things we want to talk about.

Speaker 1 You can ask me anything. I just don't know.
No, no, no. I don't want to get you.

Speaker 1 The goal is to, when you agree to come on Super Bowl week, the goal is to get out of this interview clean. And we could go.
With no huge headlines. Yeah, we go down a bad path.

Speaker 10 You got like five things that I can do.

Speaker 1 No, we're going to hold it all. Just saying that I might just, I just won't respond.

Speaker 9 Who do you think is going to be in Taylor's box on Sunday?

Speaker 1 In the suite?

Speaker 1 He said box.

Speaker 1 The suite?

Speaker 1 I said what he said. He said box.
He said,

Speaker 1 I'll pass.

Speaker 9 This might be a regional dialect thing. Some people say box, some people say sweet, some people say sweet box.

Speaker 1 I have a hype video.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a Taylor's sweet box. I'm going to pass it.
I have a really...

Speaker 1 Awesome hype video I want to show you, but I don't want to show it to you on air because I don't want them to then turn it against us. Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 We'll cut. Yeah, yeah, well, I'll show it to you after.
It's a good video. Yeah, it's a good video.

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Speaker 1 Okay, last question. Last.
Your coach, who we're big fans of, Kyle Shanahan. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Probably two or three times a year, he wears the Legends hoodie with pardon my take on it. Yeah.
Does he know what we are? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 Every time I see it, I'm like, I think he's wearing it because it's a comfortable hoodie. That is the main reason.
That is the main reason. No, sir.
But he's also aware of who we are.

Speaker 1 Kyle's a creature. We got him on.

Speaker 1 Kyle's a creature of habit where, like, whatever he walks into his office, and then whatever is the closest thing to him, or like, whatever we've won in, oh, I'm going to wear that again. Okay.

Speaker 1 He's like a normal football guy. He's superstitious about weird things, but like, yeah, if we're going to get away with that.
So we need to get him more of them.

Speaker 1 If you get him more stuff, he'll wear it.

Speaker 1 He would only wear it.

Speaker 9 I'm pretty sure he's got a pretty good track record because he wore it during the playoffs last year. I remember that.
That was not the Eagles week. I think that was Washington's week.

Speaker 1 It was.

Speaker 9 And you guys won that game.

Speaker 9 It might not be the worst thing if you put it on for the post-game press conference.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 After a win in the Super Bowl. Just throw it out there.
If you brought it, I'll ask him.

Speaker 9 Does he bring you in for the meetings and he's like, okay, here's the game plan this week. Christian's getting three touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 9 Is it like a disappointment if Christian McCaffrey scores one touchdown?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I think the surest bet in all of sports is Christian McCaffrey. He just scores every time, no matter what.

Speaker 1 Well, it's like you're, I think like running backs, you should score touchdowns, especially when you get down to the red zone.

Speaker 1 Like we're going to, especially especially in our offense, you can see that in the seven years that I've been here is we get to the reds and we're going to run the ball and try to run the ball.

Speaker 1 And then you throw Christian into it, and it's like, okay, well, we're going to design a play for Debo to score. Ayuk could be the second read.
George, you're going to be here.

Speaker 1 And then fourth read, one-on-one versus their milk check, is going to be Christian McCaffrey. And oh, that's an easy dislap it in there.

Speaker 1 So it's like, it's kind of like we're all just running distraction routes for Christian, which I'm totally fine with because, hey, if you do win, hey, I'll hit you.

Speaker 1 But if you don't win, Christian's the easiest check down in the world because he's going to break one tackle. Maybe Kyle Yushek scored touch on it.
By the way, does Kyle Ushek hate us? Why?

Speaker 1 For Quiggs?

Speaker 4 Yeah, who's Quiggs?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so for people who don't know, Quigs. Whig's Quiggs.
Quiggs is one of our... Quigs is a great editor.
What are we doing? Quiggs is a very, very important part of Barstool.

Speaker 1 Quiggs likes to troll online. Quiggs tweeted,

Speaker 1 I'm commenting on all of...

Speaker 1 Her name's Kristen.

Speaker 4 Kristen.

Speaker 1 Kristen Yushek's Instagram posts with her jackets just saying tacky.

Speaker 1 Kristen found that tweet and replied and was like, that's not very nice. Almost instantly, I assumed the chain of command went Kristen to Kyle.
I saw it on Twitter. Kyle G.
Oh, you saw it.

Speaker 1 I saw the response.

Speaker 1 George texted me a screenshot. He said, who the fuck is this guy? I'm going to beat his ass.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I never thought I'd be in a spot where I have to defend Quiggs. I know.
And but yeah, Quiggs is not, he's a very good guy. He just likes to have fun online.
But it was a very fun.

Speaker 1 I said it to Quiggs, and he was like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 So is Kyle mad at us?

Speaker 1 Was he aware of it? I haven't talked to him about it, but I did.

Speaker 1 Turn it up. We love that.
I sent your response back to Kristen, and she said, thanks for having my back. We got this.
And I was like,

Speaker 1 yeah, because

Speaker 1 I sent your response to Quiggs, and he said, oh, fuck, I'm fucked. And I was like, no, I got your back.
Quiggs, when I see you. I can't wait.

Speaker 9 I would be a little bit afraid of Quiggs.

Speaker 1 Not for what he can do to you physically, but what he can do to you online.

Speaker 1 i'm gonna somehow find a way to get the swifties to hate him oh okay and then it doesn't matter yeah yeah that's that's very true could they could they topple a government yeah easily we've survived easily they're about to did you at the election i got it bad you didn't get it i got it so bad i got it from all fronts i don't i'm honestly just impressed it's it's incredible it was a tough week the worst part actually was that my wife's a swifty and i kept on trying to explain to her that it was a funny joke all week and she's like i you keep saying it and it's not funny it's not funny she's like i you keep telling me I don't understand it.

Speaker 1 She's like, but it's not funny. It's not funny.

Speaker 1 I was like,

Speaker 1 I have nowhere to go with this. Got to stop.

Speaker 1 You apologize, or you just stopped. No, I never apologized.

Speaker 9 We just went harder.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Way harder.

Speaker 9 We went way harder and then to the point where it's like, okay, these guys, they took it so hard that now it's cool again.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I have the karma because my kids love listening to Taylor Swift, so I have to listen to it every day in the car. So it's karma on me.
What's your favorite Taylor Swift song? Love Story. People.

Speaker 1 Isn't Love Story fantastic?

Speaker 9 Love Story's great.

Speaker 2 All too well.

Speaker 9 Bob Wicked. Extended version.

Speaker 9 Yeah, she's good. She's good.
I have to admit, she's a great artist.

Speaker 1 All right, so we were talking about this, and like this is nothing to do with the game, but like, when did Taylor Swift, like her popularity, go to like the most?

Speaker 13 When she said she was dating a podcaster, I think that's clearly a full sign.

Speaker 1 Like, if you want to get super famous, date a podcast. I thought it was after the Red Album 2012.

Speaker 10 Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 she's been the most famous person in the world for a very long time.

Speaker 9 Kanye made her famous, kind of. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. No, I didn't mean to say yeah.

Speaker 1 I did not mean to say yeah. You're going to clip that.

Speaker 1 I'm not a part of that. No, I did not mean to say yeah.
Shout out to Kanye West.

Speaker 1 I'm not a part of that at all. Great artist, even better human being.

Speaker 1 We actually are Taylor Swift fans. You're unreal.

Speaker 1 We're Taylor Swift fans.

Speaker 13 We're Swifties.

Speaker 1 We're

Speaker 1 side eye. Like, she is an incredible artist.
Have you ever been to a concert? No. Phenomenal.
I know.

Speaker 9 I've been to two.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 She goes with Levi State and like whenever she's on tour. It's fantastic.
Tough to go.

Speaker 9 Let me ask you this about Kyle, though.

Speaker 1 Shanahan or Juice?

Speaker 9 Juice. Cool.
Love Juice. Love fullbacks.

Speaker 9 Are you guys working anything interesting like red zone looks for Juice?

Speaker 1 He scored in the last one. He did.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah, he did. He scored in the last row.

Speaker 9 We had Boomer on the podcast.

Speaker 1 You want to know another fun statistic is any game that me and Kyle have both scored in, we've won. Oh.

Speaker 1 You want to know another fun statistic? Jersey Jerry has put Kyle Ushek touchdown in every parlay he's ever done and never won.

Speaker 1 He's always like, always always like, I got seven out of my eight. I just need you, Shaq.

Speaker 9 Did Boomer say first touchdown?

Speaker 1 No, first touchdown.

Speaker 1 First touchdown was... Ayuk?

Speaker 9 I think it was Juice.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it was someone else. Fuck.

Speaker 7 I think I put the

Speaker 7 MVS.

Speaker 1 It was MVS. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 I'm going to bet on Juice again.

Speaker 1 We like Juice. We're fans of all the 49ers.
So

Speaker 1 I like you guys, too. Yeah.
Anyone else you want to talk to? I can go grab him. Trent Williams? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Brock Purdy.

Speaker 1 He might be unavailable right now. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll walk out with you and maybe you can just say hi to some guys.

Speaker 9 Does he respect your blocking game? Yeah. Because I would imagine getting a compliment from Trent Williams

Speaker 9 in the blocking game is like as good as it gets. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I line up next to a first battle Hall of Famer and he's still playing at a first battle Hall of Fame level too. Yeah.
Yeah. So it's like one of the coolest things ever.

Speaker 9 Is that contagious? Is the physicality contagious? Like you see him lay somebody out and you're like, fuck, I want to do that.

Speaker 1 I had that that before i played with him but like when you line up next to him it's just like i have zero doubt in my head that we're going to block the heck out of the guy that we're going against yeah like when we're like we have a play like hey you're going to double team that guy up to the likes my macro i'm just like

Speaker 1 yeah good luck man yeah you can get away with anything if trent's on your side time to learn grace that dude that dude will show up oh it's crazy too like i'm just he's like hey don't touch him just go i'm like all right sounds good i'll let you do you man

Speaker 9 no one else can do that it's pretty sick there was one pregame thing where trent came in there was like like a scuffle going on, and then he shows up, and then immediately both sides just clear out.

Speaker 1 That was the Browns game.

Speaker 9 The Browns game, yeah. Like, it looked like it was going to come to blows, and then everyone was like, oh, fuck, Trent Williams is here.

Speaker 1 I'm going to head out.

Speaker 1 SpongeBob. Well, George.

Speaker 9 That's a SpongeBob meet. Yes.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much. Yeah, we know it.
Best of luck in the Super Bowl. We're rooting for you.
No, we always pull for you.

Speaker 1 You can't tell the history of part of my take without George Kittle. That's a fact.
That's crazy. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 From the tight end, who we were like, fuck, we'll take a picture with them. Is there going to be a Greg of the Year anytime?

Speaker 1 We could do one. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I'm so confused that honestly, like, I don't know what your name is.

Speaker 1 And he corrects people saying I'm Greg. Yeah.
He did that to someone the other day on Twitter. Ari.
Yeah. Cool.

Speaker 13 He said, Georg Kittle, everybody.

Speaker 1 I was like, hey, Georg, I'm Greg.

Speaker 1 And I was like, wait, fuck. I screwed up in my head all the time.
But yeah. Good luck in the Super Bowl.
We're rooting for you.

Speaker 1 And we love you. Oh, dude.
I love you guys. Love you too.
Love that. Love that.
Good luck.

Speaker 1 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 9 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is one of the best defensive players in the NFL, Max Crosby from the Las Vegas Raiders.
We're in your city right now.

Speaker 1 Max here with Invisalign. So you've been doing stuff.
Where were you before this?

Speaker 13 You're doing radio row?

Speaker 5 No, I just came from Lowe's with the guys. You know, we did a little

Speaker 5 love for Lowe's. You know, we're there for an hour.
Did some signings, kiss some babies.

Speaker 1 Nice. Nice.
Yeah, and so Invisalign can, can you, did you get Invisalign?

Speaker 5 Yeah, they got the Invisalign in right now. Oh, I love it.
Just started a few days ago. So, yeah, I didn't grow up getting braces or anything.

Speaker 1 Fix them. It's about time.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I can't even tell you're wearing them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Invisalign does suck for everyone who had to suffer through braces because now everyone's caught up in Invisalign so much easier. Yeah, way easier.
You didn't have to do that. Yeah, smooth.

Speaker 5 You just eat, you take them out when you eat, and you're good.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I had braces for, I think, five years when I was a kid. It sucks that Invisalign wasn't around, it really does.
It would have changed my entire childhood.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was gonna say, five years is a long time.

Speaker 9 Yeah, well, they didn't do anything for the last three years. I kept going in.
They were like, okay, let's just change the bands on here. All right, see you.

Speaker 9 Need a chat from your parents, by the way, on the way out.

Speaker 1 No, Invisalign. Yep.

Speaker 1 What injuries are you working with right now? Because you got the sleeve on your left leg and then you have a cast on your right leg. What's going on?

Speaker 5 So I got my burso removed out of my knee

Speaker 5 a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 5 So I was dealing with that for a majority of the season so thank god I got that out it was a pain in the ass but um yeah I got that done it'll be like two to three months and then the hand I tore my UCL 10 into my thumb so I had to get that when did you do that I did that versus Jets like week 10 I think so you just were like fuck it I'm playing the rest of the season yeah I mean it's a it happens like you just you have bang you know a little bangs up and little bruises and shit like that so you know they made it work I appreciate you saying like it happens because if I had either of those injuries I'd probably just be in a ball crying and being like, I'm not podcasting today.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it happens. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It just happens. It's normal.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Just played through a UCL for seven weeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, something like that. Did that affect anything?

Speaker 5 Not necessarily. I mean, they got like guards that they put on your thumbs and tape it, so it kind of just keeps it locked in.
So I started doing it with both of them.

Speaker 5 So, I mean, it didn't bother me that much. It's annoying, but

Speaker 1 it was.

Speaker 1 I got a stupid question to start off. You know, start real well with this interview.

Speaker 1 So your name, Max, with two X's, I looked it up.

Speaker 13 That is your God-given name?

Speaker 1 Yes. That's the most badass thing ever.
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Like, did your parents know they're like, we're going to create a badass and we're going to name him Max with double X's? I thought that was an addition. I thought

Speaker 1 you add the double X when it's like, oh, I'm a beast. Like, I'm going to be an awesome pro.

Speaker 9 It's like a helmet sticker. Yeah, right.
Every all-pro, you add another X to your name.

Speaker 1 It's like you either become like a Pro Bowl defensive lineman or a porn star with the extra X. Yeah, no.
And you got the extra X.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I really had no other options in life, so I had to really step up to the plate.

Speaker 1 So when you were growing up, were you like, this is awesome? I have two X's?

Speaker 5 No, I always loved it. I thought it was dope.
But the story was just, I was a huge baby. I was almost 12 pounds at birth, and my mom put an extra X on it, and that was it.

Speaker 1 Wait, so she literally did like XXL? Yeah, basically. That's something.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 They had to break my collarbone. I was stuck.
Like, dude, yeah, I was all messed up from that.

Speaker 9 So you were going to be just max with one X.

Speaker 11 I believe so.

Speaker 9 And then you came out, and they're like,

Speaker 9 this baby needs another X.

Speaker 1 We caught a big one. Legitimate.
We got a big one.

Speaker 5 So my mom added another X. Could you do it?

Speaker 9 Like, what if they were all capitalized too? Like uppercase letters in your first name. What if you were that big?

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would rock, too.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I mean, I would go with it.

Speaker 1 I'd be unique.

Speaker 5 That's an awesome story.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 10 you have a million awesome stories.

Speaker 1 We were saying before, because legend, Mac Legend, Brogan Roeback is here.

Speaker 1 We're big Mac fans.

Speaker 1 Eastern Michigan. You only got offered to Eastern Michigan?

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah, my only offer.

Speaker 1 No one else was like, hey, you can come walk on or anything?

Speaker 5 No, it was pretty quick. Like, I was a linebacker my whole life.
I was a linebacker, fullback slash running back,

Speaker 5 all childhood, all middle school, all high school. And my last year, going into my senior year, I grew like four inches.
So I was like 6'5, and I was goofy. I was growing into my body.
I was in pain.

Speaker 5 I wasn't twitchy at all. And I was, you know, just trying to figure it out.
And we got new coaches that came in from Austin West. Like, like, they had like Drew Brees.

Speaker 5 like it's a legendary school so I was like I'm trying to play tight end so they come in they're like listen you're gonna play DN and tight end you're not playing linebacker anymore just listen to us and we're gonna get you an offer so that's literally what it was I had no film at that DN until my last year so Eastern had a camp like the summer before my last uh last year in high school and I went there did both positions and then they offered me so I had no film or anything and they just took a chance and that was it I committed like two weeks later that's incredible yeah and we love matching.

Speaker 1 Are there times when you're playing the NFL and you're like, this is cake? Because I've been at Kalamazoo in the middle of November on a Wednesday night in front of 100 people.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, we've had some classic ones. We were at Ball State in Muncie, Indiana, on like a Tuesday night, one of the greatest games in football history.
It was like literally

Speaker 5 election night. It was like 48 to 45.

Speaker 5 We won in like, what, double overtime or something? There was maybe 50 people out. It was a monsoon.
it was freezing and yeah he was he was going

Speaker 9 he was going crazy yeah in the rain everything it was it was wild so yeah it's yeah it's the best football on earth yeah it is so it's like that when you think of mac mac action you usually don't think of like 48 to 45 games the fucking shootout in that kind of weather that's a special game because it's like yeah there are only 200 people in the stands you you experience that more with your team than you do with like the environment of the stadium which is cool yeah i guess i mean it was different you know honestly honestly, it's crazy because I grew up playing high school football in Texas.

Speaker 5 So, like, our games were 15,000 jam-packed, full tailgates. Like, it was crazy.
And then I go to Eastern, and at that time, you know, my first year were 1-11.

Speaker 5 They were like talking about shutting the whole program down. Like, we had no fans in the crowd.
So, like, I went to Eastern and I had less fans when I first got there. Yeah.
It was crazy.

Speaker 5 So, I was a little thrown off. So, you know, we changed it.
We ended up going to a bunch of bowl games and things. And, you know, now they're still going to bowl games, but it took a lot of time.

Speaker 5 Like, when I first got there, it was like a ghost town. It was bad.

Speaker 1 And it was the grip factory. You guys did the concrete entrance.
When that happened, when your coach was like, this is what we're going to do. Yeah.
What was the locker room like?

Speaker 1 Were they like, are you sure we're going to do this?

Speaker 5 You know, it's funny because I committed. And that my senior year, I watched every Eastern game.
And it was like the first game of the season. And that was when Creighton first got hired.

Speaker 5 So I turned on the TV in the morning and it was not top 10. And it was them as number one.
And they were on the team at the time.

Speaker 5 I wasn't there yet and it took literally like two minutes to get the wall down and it was hilarious.

Speaker 5 So I have my boys are clowning me because of Eastern trying to knock the wall down and I'm like, all right, we're off to a great start.

Speaker 1 So yeah, it was Brogan here.

Speaker 1 Is that Mike on? Because is that Mike on? Brogan, tell us what your coach said after that too when you were on not

Speaker 1 top 10.

Speaker 25 Yeah, I mean, he pretty much brought us in the next morning after the game because I think we got butchered, which is even worse.

Speaker 25 And then, so we're in there and we're watching, before we go watch film, he pretty much is like, I know we've seen the not top 10. And we're all looking around like, it's the elephant in the room.
And

Speaker 25 we're all like, coach, like, we got to stop that. And he's like, no, you guys are, you're not seeing it.
You're not seeing what I'm seeing.

Speaker 25 That's why we're going to continue doing it because no one can tell us what we're going to do. And just goes on this rant.
And they're still knocking down that fucking wall. I love it.

Speaker 1 I love it. He did.

Speaker 9 He did

Speaker 9 the JFK speech. We choose to go to the moon not because it's easy, but because it's hard.
He did that about busting down a cinder block wall.

Speaker 1 Were you a little bit tired after breaking down that wall?

Speaker 5 I did it, I think, once or twice.

Speaker 5 Like, it was, you know, there was like three main people, like offense, defense, and special teams, like the players of the week, you would get the hammer and you would have to be the one to knock it down.

Speaker 5 And I think, I believe, that might be wrong, but didn't they get like lighter cinder blocks after that?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 5 they ended up getting lighter cinder blocks so you could actually knock the thing down.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you hit it like two times and then just kick the thing through and then you're good. So, yeah, it was, you know, a learned skill, but we figured it out.

Speaker 1 And you're playing on a Gray Field?

Speaker 5 Gray Field, the factory.

Speaker 1 Awesome. It was legendary.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. We loved it.

Speaker 9 You said you weren't Twitchy at the time. When did you, was there a moment where you're like, now I'm Twitchy?

Speaker 9 What was your first Twitch?

Speaker 5 My first Twitch, I would say, is when I lost a bunch of weight before I went to college. Like, when I was growing, I grew, like I said, four inches.
Like, my body ached.

Speaker 5 I was like just eating more, and I was just kind of gumpy and big, and my body was hurting.

Speaker 5 So once I, you know, before I went to Eastern, I lost a bunch of weight because I didn't want to feel like that. I felt horrible.
I felt slow and everything like that. So I lost a bunch of weight.

Speaker 5 I got skinny as hell, but I felt athletic and I was jumping and moving better. So then once I got to Eastern, I was able to like put on some better weight and then it, you know,

Speaker 5 yeah, it just kind of, it was a process.

Speaker 1 And it's an awesome story because you, like I said, only offer is Eastern. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Then you get drafted by the Raiders in what, the fourth round, and you're like the third, you're, you know, third string right away.

Speaker 1 So you're, are you thinking, like, I'm not going to make this team? Are you like, you have the confidence? Like, I'm going to, I'm going to be one of the best defensive players in the NFL.

Speaker 5 No doubt.

Speaker 5 You know, I've always had a ton of confidence. That's never been an issue for me.
It was just about all the other little things. And so for me, it was like, I came in as a...

Speaker 5 whatever, I was third string when I got into camp, but for me, I just wanted a chance. I was like, I know if I can get in, you know, drafted on any team, like, I'm going to have a chance.

Speaker 5 Like, just get me in the locker locker room. It doesn't matter.
Put me on the field. I'm going to be good.

Speaker 5 So, and once I just start cleaning up everything off the field and cleaning up eating habits and just putting it all together,

Speaker 5 you know, that's why I'm here today because I do it every single day.

Speaker 5 You know, no details left behind. So, yeah, I never had a confident, you know, never had.
any lack of confidence when it comes to playing football.

Speaker 5 But once I put it all together, then, you know, that's why. So I'm here.

Speaker 9 One of your biggest fans is one of our favorite people in the world, Brian Baldinger.

Speaker 1 Yes. Baldy.

Speaker 9 He called you the Condor.

Speaker 9 He came up with that name for you, right?

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 9 When you heard it, were you like, that's a fucking sick nickname?

Speaker 5 Oh, I loved it. I loved it.
It was honestly crazy. Like, my first three games in the NFL,

Speaker 5 they were probably the hardest football games ever. Like, I'm used to playing every single snap.
Like, in college, I would play, never come off the field. I'm a rhythm guy.

Speaker 5 Like, I need to get into a rhythm and get my, you know, whatever. So.
I come in, they're like, yeah, you're going to be a rotational guy.

Speaker 5 You're going to play some first and second down, and you're not even on third downs. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm playing like 15, 20 snaps.
And those first three games in the NFL, I was so bad.

Speaker 5 Like mentally, I was at my lowest. Like when it comes to confidence, I had Coach Buckner, who was just hard as hell.
I mean, he was just not.

Speaker 5 I thought I was the worst player in the world. He'll come to the meetings and just crush me.
And Klee, the other rookie, Clee Farrell from Clemson, he's just getting crushed.

Speaker 5 And I'm like, I don't know if I could play in the league. And I've never felt like...

Speaker 5 lack of confidence on a football field before. So we go into Indy that week.
It was the fourth game of the year of my rookie season, and Benson Mayo was the starting edge.

Speaker 5 He goes down right before the game, and Buck comes in there like literally 30 minutes before kickoffs. Like, Max, you're up on third downs, you're gone.
And that was it.

Speaker 5 So I went into the game, played like 50 snaps, had my breakout game, and I've started ever since. That's incredible.
And that's when Baldy made the video. He made the Condor video versus the Colts.

Speaker 5 And that was how it all started.

Speaker 9 I love how fired up he gets about football.

Speaker 11 He always talks about football.

Speaker 1 It's the best. Oh, it's the best.
Now you never come off the field. Like you had a, there was some stat that was insane that was like you played like 98% of the snaps.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, how are you able to do that versus everyone else? Like, you see guys, even the best guys have to come off every now and then. You just have a motor that just never stops.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, it really comes down to just mentality and preparation. Like, I train all year round.
Like, I'm injured right now. These guys are staying at my house.

Speaker 5 We have stuff to do all day, and it doesn't matter. Like, from 7 to 11 this morning, I got my strength coach coming over.
Got my, you know, my rehab guy.

Speaker 5 I'm rehab and doing everything every single day. Like, I don't take time off.
I meal prep 365. It doesn't stop.

Speaker 5 So for me, like, being able to play that many snaps, but do it at a high level, I want to be able to change the game and make other guys kind of look at me and be like, damn, why can't I play that many snaps?

Speaker 5 It's not like I'm 240 pounds. Like, I'm 260 pounds and playing just as much as DBs are playing, which is, you know, not common at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that kind of makes you a tryhard. Yeah, I guess so.
I mean, just a little bit more. Like, you're making everyone else have to play more.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I want to be that guy.

Speaker 1 Just chill out, Max. Yeah, because you know there's other teams that are like, why can't you be like, Max? Why are you coming off the field?

Speaker 5 100%. That's my main goal.

Speaker 9 I love that that's your goal, though, is to set such a high standard for work ethic. Yeah.
Everybody out there is like, oh, shit, I need to be playing more football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had no idea I could do this.

Speaker 9 I did hear one interview with you where you said, like, sometimes people call you a tryhard.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Is that, do you take that as an insult?

Speaker 1 Like, it seems like

Speaker 9 I would like players on my favorite football team to try hard.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 5 I don't, like, when you're a kid, like, usually that's like a diss. Like, yeah.
Try hard.

Speaker 1 You don't want to be that kid.

Speaker 5 But, I mean, we're all in the NFL. And,

Speaker 1 I mean, I feel like I take it as a compliment. So guilty as charged.
Max Crosby's a tryhard. Yeah.
We're going to do a graphic. Try hard.
Yeah, I'll get a shirt with it and everything.

Speaker 5 I'm perfectly okay with that.

Speaker 1 So the other part of your story, which is crazy, because you talked about the beginning of your career,

Speaker 1 and you are, is it four years sober now or close to it? About to be four years. About to be four years sober, which is an awesome, awesome story.
Very inspirational to everyone.

Speaker 1 But you spent the first two years, three three years of your career not sober, and you still were incredible.

Speaker 1 Do you like, you must feel like a superhuman now having that many years sober and being able to do these things and being like, how the hell was I, how was my former self able to do that?

Speaker 5 I honestly, I don't know.

Speaker 5 It's crazy to think about, but honestly, it's nuts. Like, I remember in Miami when I was with y'all my rookie year, and I did that.
Like, I was hungover, and I felt like shit.

Speaker 5 And I think I drank a beer with y'all on the show. Yeah.
And I don't even know how I was able to operate like that back then. But yeah, it's honestly it's funny.

Speaker 5 My sponsor, right when I got sober, he's like, listen, this is your superpower. He's like, nobody's doing what you're doing.
You have to realize that.

Speaker 5 So I kind of take that into effect with not only, you know, being sober, but my football shit, my training, I'm not wasting any energy. at the club or trying to recover from the night before.

Speaker 5 Like I'm always on it. If I'm traveling to LA or traveling to do something for work or business, whatever, I call my nutritionist.
He calls the hotels. I have meals waiting for me.

Speaker 5 it, it's all the time. So I'm putting my energy into good shit, and it's got me exactly where I am.

Speaker 1 Congrats on four years sober.

Speaker 4 It's incredible.

Speaker 5 I appreciate it, man.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I would imagine the sleep factor is huge, too.

Speaker 9 When you rest, your body's actually recovering.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 5 It doesn't stop. Like, I got the whole recovery thing in my house now.
I cold tub seven days, seven days a week, all year round. Don't do much of a place on it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to start cold tubbing. You have to.
It's a game changer.

Speaker 5 Every morning, bro, it changes.

Speaker 1 How long do you go for it?

Speaker 5 I do two sets of 10 minutes every single day.

Speaker 1 Try hard, try hard, try hard try hard

Speaker 1 even the guys

Speaker 1 like bro why do you do

Speaker 1 i'm like i'm doing it because you're not you do you do a cold tub to recover from your cold tub 100 i do it before practice after practice i i feel like like you are a tryhard i feel like we get we got you at barstool for like a week we would probably bully it out of you and you'd just be like yeah i'll take another pizza let's watch the game no yeah it'd slowly start changing you'd be like all right i'm gonna get in here i'm gonna get in the building you would change us before we came 100 I would bother you every day.

Speaker 1 We're very set in spirituality. Day one.

Speaker 9 Day one, you walk in, me and Big Cat sitting on the couch. We got TV on.
We got raisin canes, chicken tenders. We got four diet cokes in front of us.

Speaker 9 And my shirt is like up over my stomach because I've gotten fat. It's just like supporting my t-shirt.
What do you say to us to get us to straighten our shit out?

Speaker 5 Well, it's crazy because the thing is, you guys would come in. I would already be in the building.
The lights would just be turned on.

Speaker 5 There would be a nice spread of different type of proteins, greens, everything, and would be dialed in.

Speaker 9 I think there would be a revolution. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I would slowly. All it takes is one.

Speaker 5 It starts with you, and then all of a sudden he starts feeling like shit because he's left out. And then, okay, I'm going to start eating.

Speaker 5 And you got abs now, and then you get a couple more girls here and there, and now you'd just be a part of the crew.

Speaker 1 Now we're fucking. Now everyone's

Speaker 1 fucking, everything's together.

Speaker 1 Everything's on point.

Speaker 1 I mean, it would be a very funny test because I feel like it would be the unstoppable force versus the immovable object. Like, Max, come on.

Speaker 1 We're going to pet some college basketball games and sit on the couch. Why don't you want to do that with the boys? No, I would definitely, I would join.

Speaker 5 You know, we do our thing. I mean, it's not like I'm not having fun, but I just like staying dialed in.
It makes me feel better about myself. Yeah.

Speaker 9 And you've done, obviously, like, we're kidding around, but like what you've accomplished after getting sober is pretty, pretty impressive.

Speaker 9 And like, on a real note, though, I was wondering about this earlier. Like, you, you go, you check yourself into rehab, which is hard to do, right?

Speaker 9 Like, there's a big like mental block that a lot of people have, whether they're embarrassed they're ashamed whatever the case may be they don't want to seek treatment um and then you get you get out of there and you come back to las vegas yeah and as an outsider that hasn't spent that much time in las vegas it seems like a very hard city to maintain that lifestyle in was there like a shock to you when you got back how did you adjust for that um honestly you know i ended up staying in la

Speaker 5 I did my 30 days in rehab I was in LA the whole time and then I was like I want to go back home like I want to go back to my girls my dogs are there whatever And they're like, no, you're going to, it's basically like a halfway house and you get out of prison.

Speaker 5 It's like, it's called a sober living. So it's a bunch of guys, like eight to 10 of us in a crib, and they all just got out of rehab, too.

Speaker 5 So you're living together, doing stuff, but you're doing meetings during the day and all different type of stuff.

Speaker 5 And I end up staying there for another three months. So

Speaker 5 that's honestly the best thing I did. Yeah.
Because I wanted to go home really badly, but I didn't. I just sucked it up.
I stayed there for another three months.

Speaker 5 And then I ended up going into training camp, like straight out of sober living. So honestly, if I didn't do that, I don't know if I would have stayed sober.

Speaker 1 But it helped me prepare.

Speaker 5 Like going back to Vegas,

Speaker 5 I was, you know, I was ready. The first step is literally just admitting you have a problem.

Speaker 5 So that's really what it was. I'm like, it doesn't matter where I'm at.
If I was in Ypsilanti, Michigan, they know how it was. I was raising hell.
It doesn't matter where I'm at.

Speaker 5 It could be Vegas or whatever. Like, obviously, there's more temptation here, but like I live in, you know, Henderson.
It's quiet. I do my thing.

Speaker 5 If I want to, you know, come to the strip, it's a 20-minute drive, but like, I'm not going to the clubs or whatever.

Speaker 1 I'm smoking my cigars it's about it so that's a great message too because I feel like a lot of people who struggle with it and like that feeling of okay I did rehab I'm cured yeah and like Jerry who we talk to all the time like he's he stresses it all the time like every day is is a challenge yeah and like if you think of it that way you're not ever thinking like oh I'm good I'm I'm fine like I can you know I can I can be around stuff like I'm I'm good like having that extra buffer that probably saved your life yeah 100% I mean, you need a ton, a ton of checks and balances from sponsors, support, your friend group.

Speaker 5 Like the number, when I first got sober, they're like, the one thing you got to change is everything. Yeah.
I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?

Speaker 1 I'm in the NFL. How is that possible? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Literally everything. Like your friend group, who you hang with, all the people, you know, you did wrong in the back.

Speaker 5 You got to go and go dig up those, you know, those graves and go apologize and like do all these things that you're not typically used to doing and are uncomfortable.

Speaker 5 But, you know, at the end of the day, when you clean clean your side of the street, you're just like, okay, I did my part. I know I was wrong, whatever.
And you just keep moving forward.

Speaker 5 And that's how you do it. You got to do it literally every single day.

Speaker 1 That's awesome.

Speaker 9 You're mentioning cigars. You're a big cigar guy.

Speaker 9 So am I. I like black and milds.
I like the

Speaker 1 wood tips.

Speaker 1 That's what we used to do in college.

Speaker 11 I'm a little flavored wood tips.

Speaker 9 That's my preferred cigar. You like woods?

Speaker 5 Okay, I like plastic.

Speaker 11 You like the plastic ones?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, I'll smoke whatever black and mild you put in front of me. But

Speaker 9 I've tried to get into cigars, and I can't do it. It It just,

Speaker 9 you know, the smell gets into everything. I don't necessarily enjoy it.
How many cigars would you say that you go through in like a month?

Speaker 5 In a month?

Speaker 5 Honestly, like during the season, I just like smoke a cigar after the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you did that after the Chiefs game, and I was like,

Speaker 1 that might have been a little too much. What do you mean? I don't know.
Like, you guys weren't in the playoffs. You smoked a cigar.
We smoked a cigar. After every game, he smoked a cigar.

Speaker 1 All right, okay, then that's fine. That's the news.

Speaker 1 But you smoke it after a loss?

Speaker 5 No. Oh, I mean, if it's like me personally, like I go home and I put my film on.

Speaker 1 But in the locker room, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, like locker room, that's like our new shit with AP. It's like, we're going to smoke our shit.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like that.

Speaker 1 I would die for Antonio Pierce. Yeah.
He's the man. Motivate anyone.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 So in a month, I mean,

Speaker 5 probably, it just depends, maybe six to eight

Speaker 5 on the low end, maybe 12 if I'm, you know.

Speaker 9 What's a good starter cigar?

Speaker 5 I would say starter, like a Monte Cristo or like a Padrone. Okay.
Padrone, like 50th anniversary is my favorite.

Speaker 11 Okay, I might get into that.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 let's talk about Antonio Pierce real quick.

Speaker 1 Seems like

Speaker 1 an all-time motivation guy. Gets everyone rallied up.
Now, let me phrase it the right way. We've all had bosses we don't like.

Speaker 1 Here we go. Then switching to a boss you do like.

Speaker 9 This is just a hypothetical example.

Speaker 1 I already knew. Right away.

Speaker 1 So if you hypothetically went from a boss that like everyone's like, I hate this guy is the worst to hypothetically like antonio pierce what would the vibes be like in the locker room i mean the vibes were immaculate you know everyone was everyone was happy um you know it's it's

Speaker 5 i don't be politically correct but it's just like you know you ap everyone already loved ap so you know everyone heard about us having like the state of the union type meeting um before Josh got fired.

Speaker 5 And like everybody shared their piece. And Josh was in there, Dave Ziggler, like everyone was in there.
And AP was one of the coaches to stand up there and share his feelings.

Speaker 5 And there was no, nobody held shit back. Everything was on the table, and it was uncomfortable for a lot of people.

Speaker 5 So, um, I think once AP did that in front of the team, and then he was announced a week later, that was like the first time everybody kind of heard him in front of the team talk.

Speaker 5 So, it wasn't like some big surprise or anything like that. Like, the defensive side, we know how AP is.
He's dope as hell. He's a great leader, cool as shit, knew everybody.

Speaker 5 But, like, once everybody kind of got to hear him, then it was just like easy transition and we're we're rolling yeah you could tell right away like just how you guys were i think that first game was maybe the giants where you guys were just like it was almost instant from the kickoff like guys flying around yeah physical football um it seems like he's were you pumped that he got the the head coaching job i i feel like the rich pesacea like we love rich pesachia too like that it was like are the raiders gonna make a mistake and not get a guy that they love like was there was it ever in doubt that you're like oh oh man i hope we keep ap but it could go a different way yeah i mean you never know right that's the thing like you know i've been with the raiders going on my sixth year now so you know i've seen it all i've you know so you really don't know what to expect but you know i had a good you know good idea that ap was coming back yeah but um until it happens you know you're still kind of a little bit nervous and you know there's i was public about it i was very out in the open we need to hire ap whatever um and i was just literally speaking for the guys you know right So, you know, some people were irritated because they're like, he's messing up the coaching process.

Speaker 5 And, you know, there's a lot of great coaches this year. I'm like, well, there's only one Raider coach.
We're different than everybody. So AP is our guy.
That's how I feel. That's how everyone feels.

Speaker 5 That's how the equipment people feel. That's how everyone feels.
So don't overthink it. We got our guy in the building.
Let's keep building and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 9 When you said that publicly, to me, it sounded like Max Max might not play if they don't hire AP.

Speaker 9 Did that thought occur to you?

Speaker 1 How much is he your guy? Who would you avoid?

Speaker 1 You were so obviously passionate about it.

Speaker 9 I was like, I think Max only wants to play football for AP next year.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, 100%. That's how I felt.

Speaker 5 I've never wanted to leave the Raiders.

Speaker 5 I want to be here for my whole career.

Speaker 5 But honestly, what I was saying, some people took it the wrong way is in like, it's either AP or I'm gone.

Speaker 5 That's not what my message was. Like, my message was, I want people, I want everybody to be on the same page when it comes to winning.
I want everyone to have the same mindset.

Speaker 5 I'm going to get better every single year. I'm going to come in the building early.
I'm going to work the way I work because every single year I'm continuously getting better because of the work I do.

Speaker 5 It's simple as that. It's every day I'm trying to set the standard for everybody in that building.
So if

Speaker 5 the higher ups or whoever it is are not aligned with winning, then I don't want to be a part of that.

Speaker 1 Why would I? You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 I want to win. I want them to think the same way.
I want them to keep, all right, what's the next level?

Speaker 5 What's the next not get content and just be like, all right, we're just going to keep doing what we always done. It hasn't worked.
So let's all fucking think outside the box.

Speaker 5 Let's be fucking grown men about it and let's keep winning and keep and keep growing in the right direction. So that's what my message was.

Speaker 5 And some people took it as, oh, nobody's above the shield and whatever. I'm like, bro, I got the shield tatted on me.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I fucking go out there and play.

Speaker 1 A lot of tattoos.

Speaker 5 A lot of tattoos.

Speaker 5 It does blend in a little bit. But at the end of the day, like, I'll put my life on the line to go play.
Like, I've proven that over and over. I've played injured.

Speaker 5 I've had five surgeries, and I've never missed a single game. Yeah.
So it's like, I want, I'm a Raider to the core. I want everyone to think like that.
It's not like, fuck y'all, I'm out of here.

Speaker 5 I'm never. I love the fans.
I love Raider Nation, but like, I want everyone to think about, all right, how are we going to win?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, I'm going into year six already. It flies.
I want to be,

Speaker 5 I want to be able to win.

Speaker 9 Yeah. I got a question for you, Big Cat.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 How funny do you think it was during that team meeting when Antonio Pierce said, like, remember that Giants team that beat the Patriots and then Josh McDaniels got pissed off because he's like, you can't make fun of the Patriots.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Even though he's a coach that we're like, how funny do you think that was?

Speaker 1 I think it's very funny.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think it's very, very funny. Very funny.

Speaker 1 I don't know who leaked that shit. Yeah, but it was funny.

Speaker 5 He talked, you know, he talked about a bunch of different things, but that was one of the reports. I'm like, all right, someone definitely is trying to get some clicks.
Yeah, someone

Speaker 1 clicked on the topic.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I clicked on it.

Speaker 1 They were like, Josh,

Speaker 1 I'm clicking on it right now. It sounded convincing.

Speaker 1 It definitely sounded convincing.

Speaker 5 But I mean,

Speaker 5 you know, he didn't storm out of the meeting, and it wasn't, it was totally, I don't know who fabricated that. Yeah.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 1 So, most important question I have for you.

Speaker 13 Have you ever gone to PF Changs with Mark Davis?

Speaker 5 I have never. No.
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 No, I know. How is he not? You got to get down to your contract.
He's going to take you to PF Changs. We're big Mark Davis fans.

Speaker 5 Oh, I love Mark Davis.

Speaker 1 Mark Davis has got all the swag.

Speaker 1 We want him on the show so bad. We want to go to PF Changs with him.

Speaker 1 He's the best. He's the best.

Speaker 5 He'll go by himself.

Speaker 5 He'll sit at a slot machine at a casino and just hanging out.

Speaker 1 I love it. He's just one of the guys.
He's one of the guys. Yeah.
100%. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 10 So the Super Bowl coming up.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes, you obviously play him twice a year.

Speaker 9 Best friend. Yeah.

Speaker 10 One thing I love that

Speaker 1 you do is like you. I feel like rivalries mean something to you.
And like you're, you don't like these guys. I love that.

Speaker 1 Like, like, there was a pregame, I think, you know, you guys got into it a little bit before the Christmas game. Like, I just love that.
That's what sports are

Speaker 10 about.

Speaker 1 But Patrick Mahomes, in terms of sacking him, like how do you defend him? What the hell is the answer? Because it's just, he's so goddamn good.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, he's the best.

Speaker 5 So every time you play him, you have to be coordinated. You have to do your absolute

Speaker 5 best. I don't know if you do your absolute best.
You have to do everything in your power and fucking energy, every fiber in your body to keep him in the pocket.

Speaker 5 If he keeps plays alive, that's where he's magical.

Speaker 5 He does all the crazy shit, throws it left-handed, and he just finds people um but if you keep him in the pocket that's your best bet and i'm not saying it's you know 100 it's going to stop him but that's your best chance and you watched us play him on on christmas like we kept him in the pocket we rushed the fuck out of him we were hunting him all game like that's what your mind has to be like all right i know what i'm getting into track shoes on i'm fucking running all day long right like you're you look at the gps like they have the gps monitors on us it should be the highest it is all year because he's just going to keep running and running and running So that's kind of what it is.

Speaker 5 Like, you can, you got to be relentless, and your whole front's got to think like that. So every time I play him, I know what it is.
I'm going to be chasing all day long.

Speaker 5 And, you know, that's just, you got to be geared up for that.

Speaker 1 What about when he gets to the sideline? Because he's really good at getting those extra yards where guys, like, they don't let up, but they also.

Speaker 5 You can't stop. I mean,

Speaker 5 there was a play this year where he was literally backpedaling. He's near the sideline.
And I ran from like the opposite side, and I just fucking smoked him in the chin. And I'm like, no matter what,

Speaker 5 he is going down all game.

Speaker 5 You have to hit him all game and make him uncomfortable. But the thing about him,

Speaker 5 he's not a bitch. He's going to keep coming back.
He's going to keep playing. And for us, it's like, no, we're going to just make him uncomfortable all game.
Yeah, that's the best way to do it.

Speaker 1 Wait, if he's not a bitch, what quarterback is a bitch?

Speaker 1 I won't name any of this.

Speaker 5 There's more than one.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of them.

Speaker 9 Mad bitches.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm sure there's some quarterbacks you hit them and they're like no moss. They're crying anymore.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of them that cry.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, it is.

Speaker 9 What quarterback makes the funniest sound when you hit him?

Speaker 1 Funniest sound?

Speaker 5 Probably Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson. He just like rolls over, and I'm like, I almost feel bad sometimes.
But yeah,

Speaker 5 I'll probably say Russia. It's got to be such a good feeling.

Speaker 1 All due respect.

Speaker 9 It's got to be such a good feeling to get a sack. Have you had to change how you hit a quarterback? Like, do you think about that shit?

Speaker 9 Like, oh, if I'm sacking him, I better try to take my weight off him in midair because he'll throw a flag.

Speaker 5 Yeah, honestly, no like it's almost like a skill now like you try to you get a hold of them and you're trying to rag doll them or you just know like back in the day you're trying to I was literally trying to break collarbones like every time you get them I'm driving him through the soil like that's the only way I'm doing it but now it's just like you can't land full body weight you know a flag's coming so it's like it's like getting a face mask you grab somebody with a face mask you know the flag's coming it's the same thing so now you just got to be a little bit more aware and under control i would say i did notice you do the move where you wrap them up and then swing them Yeah, I did that to my homes last year.

Speaker 5 I grab them and I just turn them away, so you can't look downfield and can't do shit.

Speaker 1 That's got to feel like the best moment when you know you got them. Oh, 100%.

Speaker 5 There's no better feeling. Like, TFLs tack, all that's great, but like sacking the quarterback in a big third down, like, there's literally nothing better.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I want to go back to, I believe it was 2019. Was that your rookie year? Yep.
2019, your first training camp.

Speaker 9 I believe that was the Antonio Brown training camp, too, right?

Speaker 9 You remember when you flew in on a hot air balloon on the first day of training camp?

Speaker 5 Yeah, that we had hard knocks. We had everything.

Speaker 9 Were you like, is this what the NFL is like? There's cameras around me all the time. My receiver's toes are frozen off.

Speaker 9 He's trying to fight the GM. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I mean, when I say, like, I've seen it all, you know, being on the Raiders, I've seen it all.

Speaker 5 That offseason, we signed AB, Vontez Berfick, Richie Incognito. Oh, Richie.
And we had like, it was like the longest yard team.

Speaker 1 And it was fucking. Gruden was your coach.
Gruden's the coach.

Speaker 5 Like, it was a fucking reality television show. Yeah.
So

Speaker 5 it was incredible. Like, those guys, like, even Von, like, you think about Vantes Berfick, you think he's like some serial killer.
He's one of the coolest dudes ever, great leader.

Speaker 5 But, like, just being around those dudes, like, that was my first experience ever. So it was different.
It was crazy. Like, the A-B shit was in the news every single day.
I'm like,

Speaker 5 this is so much different. Like, I'm used to Eastern.
We barely get coverage on ESPN. Like, maybe ESPN 2, like, get a couple highlights.
Like, this shit was on TV every single day.

Speaker 5 So it was different.

Speaker 9 What's it like playing for Coach Gruden? Did he get pissed off at you because you were too good at defense in practice? He would fuck up his offense?

Speaker 5 He would get irritated.

Speaker 5 He literally threatened to cut me on the middle of the field. One of my, my first training camp.
And his thing, like he's an offensive coach, and I've always had offensive coaches till AP got here.

Speaker 5 But he would get so mad about batting balls. Like we'd be in practice doing team, and he refused to let us bat the ball.

Speaker 5 But I would tell him, I'm like, why the fuck are we practicing to not bat the balls? But in a game, they're going to be doing the same shit So right, what's the point?

Speaker 5 But he's an offensive guy So he wants his shit to he wants practice to move a certain way So I'm not even thinking I'm just trying to make plays and whatever I'm a third string I'm just trying to do everything So it was like the second week of training camp I swat a ball down and I'm fucking hype celebrating and he's all looking at me all irritated whatever happens again boom swat a ball down then it happens at the end of practice I swat it for the third time he's like stop fucking stop swatting the fucking ball down goes I'll fucking cut your ass I swear to God if you do it one more time.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at him like, all right. And then I just go back to the auto.
Like, he shut down practice and motherfucked me.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, what? But yeah, I'm not used to it.

Speaker 4 In college, we do whatever the fuck.

Speaker 11 We hit the scout team quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 We didn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 And you bat one Derek Carr ball, you're getting motherfucked.

Speaker 5 So he loved that about me because I would just fucking go 100 miles an hour. But like at the same time, he motherfucked me all the time just about batting balls.

Speaker 5 And it's an offensive coach thing because Daniel's the same way. He fucking hated it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is what it is. That's incredible.
Have you talked to Aiden O'Connell at all about his mustache?

Speaker 9 Of course, of course.

Speaker 5 Did he need to shave it? No, honestly, the first conversation I had with him when he came in as a rookie, like, I spotted him a couple times. I didn't know who he was.

Speaker 5 Like, I knew he was coming from Purdue, but I seen him with the stash, and I didn't know if it was like a fucking prank or like his thing or whatever it was.

Speaker 5 And he's sitting there in the squat rack doing a workout. And I just went out of my way, went up to him, like, is there a story?

Speaker 1 Like, what's going on with the stash?

Speaker 5 He's like, honestly, he's like, I was trying to go grow a beard, but it kind of didn't grow out right and whatever. And he's like, then I just shaved and I just kept the stash.

Speaker 5 And I looked myself in the mirror.

Speaker 1 He's like, I kind of like this.

Speaker 1 So he just went with it. And that's been his thing ever since.
I'm like, honestly, I fuck with it.

Speaker 5 I respect it. Like, that's his deal.
Just fucking ride the wave. Get a couple sponsorships and

Speaker 1 ride the wave.

Speaker 9 You can't all grow good facial hair. Sometimes you got to shoot your shot a little bit and see what comes out.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 9 The Thursday night game this year against the Chargers. That was awesome.
Congrats.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Congrats on being in that game. Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 9 In the first half, could you just tell? Like, I don't think the Chargers want to play football right now.

Speaker 5 No, yeah, they didn't want any part of it. I mean, you could tell they were going through a lot.

Speaker 1 Herbert got hurt.

Speaker 5 They had all type of shit going on. Everyone's talking about their coach might get fired.
And then, you know, we just lost to the Vikings 3-0. That was bad.
Like, the ugliest game ever.

Speaker 5 You know, it was a defensive

Speaker 5 dream.

Speaker 5 They didn't do shit all game we lose by three points and everybody was pissed offensive guys are they couldn't score a single point so they're getting killed for the next three days and it was a quick turnaround so i know they were itching to get back on the field so we went out there like right out the gate boom boom boom every time they've we were on defense it was like pick fumble yeah it was just every fucking play you're just laughing at the game yeah it was like

Speaker 5 i've never been a part of a game like that i didn't play the last i didn't play the fourth quarter and i didn't even play like the last drive of the third quarter so i'm just hanging out my helmet's over there i'm like I've never been a part of this shit.

Speaker 5 I'm like, this is what it feels like to be on a fucking dominant team. You know what I mean? So, yeah, it was a different experience, but we, yeah, we kicked the shit out of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it seemed like a lot of fun. Um, I have a question about your tattoos.
How many tattoos do you have?

Speaker 5 No idea.

Speaker 1 Okay, no idea. You do have a tattoo, though.
You're a girl dad. As a girl dad, girl dad, I can ask you this question: You have a tattoo on your chest, it says be legendary.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, with Muhammad Ali, uh, Kobe, MJ, and your daughter. Yes, that's a lot of pressure on her.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 Dude, that's a fucking lot of pressure.

Speaker 5 It's a lot of pressure, you know.

Speaker 1 Did you think about that?

Speaker 5 She's going to be a legend. Yeah.
So, you know, for me, I know how I am. You know, she's got my genetic pool.
So I love being pushed. I love when something triggers me.
So, yeah.

Speaker 1 So she's setting her up.

Speaker 5 Like, listen, this is where you're at. Yeah.
This is where we're going. So be prepared.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Very high. Yeah.
That's like, I read that and I was like, damn. That's a lot of pressure.
She's got a ton of pressure. She's in, like, she's on the Mount Rushmore.
She's on Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 5 yeah immediately did you get uh did you get the dac treatment on that did you get like put under yeah sedated yeah yeah how long uh two sessions it was like 13 hours total back-to-back days so were you badass were you like totally knocked out knocked they came to my house as five different people

Speaker 5 and i was in my living room knocked out my my agent flew in he was worried about it my wife is freaking out everyone was like i don't know i'm like i'm fine i'll be good like a bunch of players do it um And yeah, I did it.

Speaker 5 It was smooth. And honestly, after the fact, I wasn't like that sore.
I just, you know, it was smooth. It's legendary.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You should have gotten you getting the tattoo on your chest.

Speaker 4 Me getting tattooed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like you getting knocked out for a two-day session and the tattoo artist tattooing that on your chest.

Speaker 5 That would have been unique. Maybe the next one.

Speaker 1 Just give me a little bit. Look how long this tattoo took, and then we could see how long it took to seeing your chest.
That's brilliant. Yeah, I might have to do that now.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it also sounds sounds like a nice little vacation.

Speaker 1 Just get two days to sleep.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I timed it up perfect where I had a week off of training. So it was like two weeks before a training camp will always take a week.
I need to get my body back together.

Speaker 5 And so I was like, all right, boom, we're tatting here, tatten here. And I was just

Speaker 1 cooked.

Speaker 1 Tough question. There was a hypothetical on the internet a couple months ago that Will Compton got involved in a lot.
It was the all black team versus all white team.

Speaker 1 You were debated a lot.

Speaker 9 I think your name actually trended for like two days.

Speaker 1 Do you

Speaker 1 want to say which team you're going to play for?

Speaker 1 There was the best was when they were like, people would post the post-game videos of you in the locker room like with a cigar, and they're like, Yeah, he's on our team.

Speaker 5 I've seen a million of them. Honestly, like I said, I want to be on the winning team.

Speaker 1 We got a bunch of white corners.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, that's fine. Yeah, I understand that.
I'm going for the winners. No choice.
Okay.

Speaker 1 They want me. I'm there.
Did you just sit back and laugh? Like, why? Like, you were literally the point of debate for over the day. For days.

Speaker 5 And I'm just sitting at home like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 You have nothing better to do. They're like, oh, no, we got him.
Fuck y'all.

Speaker 5 And they're talking about trade scenarios and all type of shit. They're like, yeah, you take Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 I'm fucking dying, bro.

Speaker 4 I was in touch.

Speaker 1 You had to have felt good, though. You were like the hottest commodity on the team.

Speaker 5 It was funny, bro.

Speaker 1 It was hilarious. You're the number one free agent.

Speaker 5 The internet is undefeated, yeah.

Speaker 1 It really is.

Speaker 9 It's also like, I feel like, speaking for the white delegation,

Speaker 9 we have a lot of great pass rushers on our team right now in the NFL.

Speaker 1 So we're like, well, if we do have a trade piece, if we got us a cornerback, we would do it. Yeah, absolutely.
It makes sense. Give us Jalen Ramsey.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll take it. It's all business,

Speaker 1 okay? Yeah, we can figure that out.

Speaker 9 What was Will Compton like as a teammate? Was he more of a tryhard than you?

Speaker 5 I wouldn't say that. I mean, he's just a morale.
He's a first team all-morale. He just comes in the locker room.
He's always, you know, just doing his thing. He was hilarious.

Speaker 5 And that's the, you know, when we went on our run, you know, he had the playoff Willie shit going. We had t-shirts.
Like, he's just, he's a character, bro.

Speaker 5 So having him in the locker room was funny as hell.

Speaker 1 He's just cracking jokes.

Speaker 5 And just, like, honestly, he didn't have to play a snap.

Speaker 5 But we needed him.

Speaker 5 He was supposed to be.

Speaker 1 He's an all-time glue guy because we get the same thing when he comes to our office. It's like when he shows up, it's like he's a glue guy.

Speaker 5 He's like to be Udonis Haslam, you know, in in the locker room.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no question. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 9 I like how you put it too. It's like, he doesn't even have to play.
In fact, like, we don't want him to play, but he's great for it.

Speaker 1 He's great in the locker room.

Speaker 1 Honestly, yeah, pray to God it never gets to that dog.

Speaker 5 But yeah, no doubt. Yeah.
It's a legend.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, this has been awesome.
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Speaker 1 It is the one and only Jersey Jerry who you guys know each other.

Speaker 1 He's got a bone to pick with you. Yeah,

Speaker 9 he definitely heard what you said about Vontez Berfick.

Speaker 1 He's got stuff he wants you to sign, of course.

Speaker 1 All right, Jerry.

Speaker 1 Let's talk.

Speaker 26 It's a good nap. I heard bits and pieces of the interview.
It was really good.

Speaker 1 Oh, you were sleeping?

Speaker 27 Yeah, no, in the

Speaker 1 other room. You were taking a nap during the interview?

Speaker 26 Yeah, but I heard bits and pieces. Like, the all-black white team was good.
So, you just heard no doubt.

Speaker 1 As we were going out of here, okay, so Jerry, go ahead. I mean, you guys have known each other for a while, right? Yeah, for two years.
Two years now. A couple years? Yeah.

Speaker 9 Friend of Jerry's, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 27 Max.

Speaker 26 So my sobriety brother, of course.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Big fan.
Absolutely. All right.

Speaker 19 I got two. I got two.
All right. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 As many as you want.

Speaker 19 All right. So this goes back.

Speaker 1 He's got the day. He's got receipts

Speaker 26 in June of last year.

Speaker 5 June last. So.

Speaker 1 2023?

Speaker 5 Less than a year?

Speaker 1 No?

Speaker 1 Less than a year or a year and a half ago. Year and a half.
Okay. Year and a half.

Speaker 26 Happy Father's Day, Max.

Speaker 26 Enjoy the day, brother. Best of luck this year.
Appreciate you, my brother.

Speaker 27 Max responds.

Speaker 26 I said, listen, let me send you some bread for a jersey or whatever. He's like, You want a jersey? I'm like, Yes, Max, for me and my cousin.
He's a diehard Raiders fan and a huge fan of yours.

Speaker 26 I'm with him right now. He loves you.

Speaker 1 No response.

Speaker 9 Oh, Jerry, can I jump in real quick? Yeah. When you sent that text to him, now is this a DM or a text? DM, DM, DM.

Speaker 9 Okay, when you sent that DM to him and you offered to send him some money for a jersey, did you think that Max was going to be like, yeah, Venmo me?

Speaker 13 Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 A couple hundred dollars. All right, no.
Also, follow-up question.

Speaker 1 The Father's Day feels like it was a hollow wish. Because you went straight Father's Day to Can I Have a Jersey? Yes, exactly.
Okay, yeah. So you admit that.
It was both of you. I admit that.

Speaker 9 Were you using Father's Day as an excuse to get in touch with him?

Speaker 26 Well, no, like he's a recent new dad at the time. You know, I'm a dad, and I just thought it was the right time to do it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Right. That's for a jersey.
Yeah.

Speaker 26 I mean, you know, Father's Day, you're having a great day. You know, spend with your kids.
Like, why would he say no? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 26 You know, then I hit him up about, hey, next to Trump, incredible stuff.

Speaker 1 No response. Wait, what is it? What was that?

Speaker 17 Well, he was at the UFC.

Speaker 26 He goes, these big UFC fans.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's sitting next to Trump. Sitting next to Trump.
I mean, that's incredible.

Speaker 26 You know what I mean? September 19th.

Speaker 26 This past year.

Speaker 26 Hey, Max, I still need that sign.

Speaker 1 Why do you make me do this?

Speaker 1 You do it to yourself. I know.
He DMs all these players.

Speaker 13 You think, yeah, why did you make Jersey Jerry DM Max and ask him to do this?

Speaker 1 No, but you said a follow.

Speaker 26 He knows all my football fans are, and he's like, oh, why don't you come on PMT for one question? I'm like, okay. And then he's like, yeah, I'm sure you DM'd them.

Speaker 26 I was like, yeah, well, the jersey, you know that, Dan. He's like, come on PMT, one question.

Speaker 27 And then I'm always in the same spot.

Speaker 1 But again, it starts with you. I know.
You're asking for the jerseys. Okay.
So this is the last time I asked. I said,

Speaker 1 say, hey, Max, I still need that jersey.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to watch you play Sunday night.

Speaker 1 And that was it. That was it.
That was it.

Speaker 26 No, no, you didn't respond, but then you responded to one of my stories and then i was like you know what i'm done

Speaker 26 but i do have shoes that max has sent me okay that i would love to get signed okay okay he didn't like my uh dad's shoes so he sent me a pair of hair masks

Speaker 1 just happened to bring them to vegas yeah

Speaker 1 second question dan please wait that was was that even a question i think that was just like funny okay yeah seriously no but like are you gonna

Speaker 1 Are you gonna get a jersey? Yeah. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I mean, we gotta figure it out.

Speaker 1 Figure it out. It feels like we still don't have the jersey.
Maybe something. We'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 We will figure it out. But don't let him off the house.

Speaker 27 He's saying we'll figure it out.

Speaker 10 Then you're going to DM in a month.

Speaker 1 He's going to be like, I don't know. He's 20 minutes away.

Speaker 1 I'll go to the house.

Speaker 1 I'll leave us on. Have dinner.

Speaker 1 Last question.

Speaker 1 Off the record. On the record.
Sorry.

Speaker 5 We're on the record. We're on the record.

Speaker 1 10 cameras in the road.

Speaker 1 Couldn't be more on the record.

Speaker 9 You can't pick yourself.

Speaker 26 Who is the best defensive player in football right now?

Speaker 5 I can't pick myself. You know.

Speaker 1 Pick yourself.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 I know you want me to answer this a certain way. I've seen many of your spiels about

Speaker 5 a man with two letters for first name.

Speaker 1 Getting close. He definitely.

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 5 if it's not him.

Speaker 1 I mean.

Speaker 1 Miles Garrett's pretty good. Aaron Donald.

Speaker 27 Doesn't Miles Garrett have more sacks than TJ?

Speaker 26 No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 26 It's 13. TJ has 19, and Miles Garrett's going to win Defensive Player of the Year.

Speaker 9 I will say this on record, though.

Speaker 26 On record, I will say that. On record.

Speaker 26 I will be putting a wager on Max Crosby to win defensive players next year.

Speaker 5 So what do you take into account out of who's the best defensive player? Is it just Sacks?

Speaker 9 Whether or not he plays for the Steelers?

Speaker 1 Or if he plays for you?

Speaker 19 It's usually Steelers, yes. But

Speaker 26 I just think he's been the last three, four years, he's been that guy.

Speaker 10 But I will say this.

Speaker 26 I have said it, and Dan could attest this. Max is, dude, there's like TJ right now.
Max is like so, it's like on him right now. And it gets me nervous.

Speaker 5 I like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just need more motivation.

Speaker 1 No, I think Max. I love that.
I respect that.

Speaker 26 I think next year, Matt, like next year, you're going to see.

Speaker 26 I think Max, you're going to win the title next year. I really do.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 9 How many years you got left of the contract?

Speaker 1 Three. Three.
Sure.

Speaker 9 I mean, he's a stealer.

Speaker 1 You look like a stealer. I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 You never know. You never know.

Speaker 5 But yeah, I would say, honestly, yeah, TJ, if not TJ, you got to look at, I mean, it's hard not to say Aaron Donald, even though he didn't have 20 sacks this year, but nobody game plans people like Aaron Donald.

Speaker 5 I mean, Miles Garrett's right there, too. I would say, like, us four, I mean, Bose is in that conversation.

Speaker 1 Micah, yeah, Micah, Mike.

Speaker 5 I mean, there's like six guys right now. Yeah, right in the.

Speaker 10 But TJ.

Speaker 5 But yeah, I mean, this year, I mean, if he wins it, I...

Speaker 1 I don't think he's going to win it, though. I don't think he's going to win.
I think he's going to win.

Speaker 26 I think Miles is going to win. I think they feel bad that he's never won it, and they're going to give it to him.
But how do you give it to a guy that's at 13 sacks? That's it.

Speaker 27 TJ got 19.

Speaker 27 You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 What do you think matters most?

Speaker 5 How many sacks did you have? 14 and a half.

Speaker 1 Ooh, so maybe it's 16.

Speaker 26 But by every year, Max is boom, boom,

Speaker 1 he's building.

Speaker 27 He's building. Yeah, he's on my ass.

Speaker 5 It's my goal. Trust me.
I remember all those arguments. The Taylor Luan argument.
I'm a stack guy.

Speaker 1 I don't know anything about the

Speaker 26 offensive linemen, how they feel like, hey, who's the best? Every offensive, professional offensive lineman I spoke to saying said they'd rather go up against TJ than Miles Garrett.

Speaker 9 Okay. Is that Kyle?

Speaker 1 Kyle?

Speaker 26 Taylor LaWan?

Speaker 1 Everybody.

Speaker 1 Every old lineman.

Speaker 1 Dan, you're making embarrassment on that. No, I'm not.
No, I'm not.

Speaker 9 Jerry did a great job. Jerry did a great job.

Speaker 9 What did you think about his comment regarding Vontez Berfick?

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, I sleep with that one. Yeah, you were sleeping on that one.

Speaker 11 It's very complimentary, Vontez.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 5 Yeah, he was a great dude. I mean, we were talking about that 2019 team where we had A.B.

Speaker 26 He's not like a leader of men or anything.

Speaker 5 He was a great leader, great dude, great locker room guy. I mean, it just, once he saw somebody going across the middle, he saw Red, put his head down, and killed you.

Speaker 5 So he just couldn't help himself. But, you know, other than that, he's good.

Speaker 9 I got a last question for you. When are we going to get to see Max Crosby the tight end in an NFL game?

Speaker 1 The tight end? And get some touchdowns.

Speaker 5 I'm not going to lie to you. I've had plays in for the last couple years.
And they haven't used them? No, I've used them in practice. Miraculous catch.

Speaker 5 Nice toe tap on the sideline. We do some one-on-ones.
I'm catching it. I'm just waiting for my moment.
So honestly, you never know, but we'll see.

Speaker 5 I mean, I've had a bunch of different offensive coordinators like, no, we're going to get it in there. Then we run it in practice.
It looks great. And then we just never run.
We need it.

Speaker 1 Do you have a touchdown celebration set?

Speaker 5 I mean, I don't know. If I score a touchdown, I'm going in the crowd.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like that. Oh, yes.
I'm getting up in the crowd. You're going to find the gorilla?

Speaker 1 That guy rocks. He kissed the gorilla.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't know about that, but

Speaker 1 no bad ideas.

Speaker 10 Just no bad ideas.

Speaker 9 You should kiss Mark Davis.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that might.

Speaker 9 Yeah, because he's hot.

Speaker 1 He's hot. Yeah.
All right, well, Max, this has been awesome, man.

Speaker 1 Your story's incredible. It's crazy.
I kind of forgot that we talked to you. What was it? It was Miami? Yeah, so that was like two months before you went sober, right?

Speaker 5 Yeah, literally two months before.

Speaker 1 That's nuts. And it's, I mean, your career is incredible.
You're a fun guy to watch and root for.

Speaker 1 So, congrats and defensive player of the year next year. Right in Jerry's face.

Speaker 1 I'm betting on it. He's betting on.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
All right. So then we'll all celebrate.
Amen. Perfect.
Amen.

Speaker 5 We'll come back. Come back to Vegas.
We'll celebrate.

Speaker 9 You're going to be so in such good shape next year just from being on the Max Crosby mentality. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 You guys are going to be shredded.

Speaker 1 I want to get my hands on you for like two days. I bet you I can get you to stop working out.
You think? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Come hang around a little bit. Yeah.
No doubt. All right.
Thanks, man. Thanks, man.
Appreciate it.

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Speaker 11 The road trip might be over, but dinner's just getting good.

Speaker 1 Okay, Fire Fest of the week. Hank, wrap us up.

Speaker 12 It's been a good week. My Fire Fest, you know, is over.
Obviously, the last couple of weeks was a stand-up, so I feel happy and relieved. So not too much to report.

Speaker 12 My only Fire Fest would really just be people that played Blackjack and don't hit on 16.

Speaker 9 Anybody in particular?

Speaker 12 There was a woman that

Speaker 12 I hit the table a little bit this morning, and there was a woman who just did it like three different times.

Speaker 1 It got me quite tilted.

Speaker 12 I had to get up after the second time because

Speaker 12 the dealer would have busted if she had hit.

Speaker 12 She would have got a 20. Didn't happen.
I lost all three times.

Speaker 9 That's brutal. Jerry does that from time to time, too.

Speaker 1 Jerry doubles on 12.

Speaker 9 Yeah, he doubles on 12 and

Speaker 9 sometimes he will just not hit on like a 13. Yeah.

Speaker 14 Well,

Speaker 14 is this against a 10, I'm assuming? Against a 10, yeah.

Speaker 14 Four, five, or six. You can't blame him.

Speaker 25 No, obviously not.

Speaker 12 No, I'm saying, yeah, seven, eight, nine, 10. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, other than that, great week. Great week.

Speaker 9 PFT? Yeah, I had a pretty good week. Don't really have, I don't have a Fire Fest.
I guess my Fire Fest is we just did an interview and I kind of cried during it.

Speaker 9 So that's going to be bad when that comes out.

Speaker 9 So yeah,

Speaker 9 I just have that to look forward to. You didn't cry.

Speaker 1 I got a little emotional. Yeah.
I got a cry.

Speaker 9 But yeah, besides that, I don't know. It's been a good week.
Okay. I'm loving Vegas.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Viva Las Vegas.
All right. My Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 Everyone saw on Monday we accosted Mark Davis.

Speaker 1 We do not have Mark Davis on the show. We're hopefully going to get him at some point,

Speaker 1 even though we accosted him. I had another run-in with someone who I'd love to have on the show, but I chickened out, and that's my Fire Fest.
I took a piss

Speaker 1 next to Tony Romo last night. Oh.
And I was like, what's up, Tony? And that's all I said because I was like, this guy probably, if I say, pardon my take, I

Speaker 1 not to like, he probably knows a little bit about a little bit.

Speaker 9 You might have listened to the interview with his, what, brother-in-law?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he also is wearing a backpack.

Speaker 9 Someone he works with definitely probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 12 You know, Bravelle sends him the clips.

Speaker 13 I pussied out.

Speaker 1 So I replayed it a bunch of times. Also, it's kind of weird in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Tony Romo saw him real life.

Speaker 1 Didn't say, oh, I don't know about that piss there. Yeah.
You know, Tony, or something like that, which I also was thinking about doing. Oh, the stream.
I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, he had a backpack on.

Speaker 9 It was weird. Yeah.
What is he, like six?

Speaker 13 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 It was like a leather backpack, too.

Speaker 14 He's probably coming from like a coach's meeting. I don't know.

Speaker 1 He was walking towards the high rollers room after we left the bathroom. So I don't know.

Speaker 9 Did you fist pump him?

Speaker 1 No, I followed behind him for a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
So he was like, yeah, he was like, hey, that was it.

Speaker 13 Yeah, I mean, it's weird to say hello to someone when you chicken piss next to him.

Speaker 9 It would have been a great video, though, if you took your phone out and you're like, Hey, Tony, yeah, you want to come on part of my take? Come on, part of my take, dude. Come on, P-Boy.

Speaker 1 We've been really mean to you.

Speaker 14 Uh, okay, Jake, yeah, first off, apologies for saying Radio Row is my home. I should have said, like, natural habitat.

Speaker 1 No, that's good.

Speaker 9 I mean, yeah, yeah, we have microphones here, too. Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, but outside of work, people.

Speaker 9 You want people wearing suits behind the microphone, yeah, right?

Speaker 1 You want professionalism, Yeah.

Speaker 14 Vegas just gives me anxiety.

Speaker 10 Just the whole thing. No way.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Yeah. The lights, just like, it always feels like you need to be moving.
Like, if I'm in my hotel room, I'm like, where's everyone else?

Speaker 1 I mean, you lived in New York City.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but like

Speaker 14 that's different.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 14 Like Times Square

Speaker 1 is different.

Speaker 9 There's a very funny interaction with Jake and the lady at the roulette table. And Jake was standing next to me as we were all playing.

Speaker 9 And this drunk lady behind us was like leaning over him, like trying to to place bets. And Jake was standing watching, supporting his friends.
And the lady was like, Aren't you going to bet anything?

Speaker 9 And Jake was like, No, I'm just here, you know, supporting my friends and vibes, rooting for friends.

Speaker 14 And Wednesday, I got in, and it went poorly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 9 the lady was like, Why aren't you betting? And Jake's like, There's plenty of time later on in the week for that.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 9 I think Jake's about to get nasty on the table these last couple days. Yeah, Wednesday was

Speaker 14 still time to rebound. But yeah, Vegas is just like,

Speaker 14 Where should I be?

Speaker 1 yeah radio row strip club yeah radio row uh max you got a fire fest

Speaker 14 um

Speaker 2 I farted

Speaker 1 much legend that makes it sound like it was only one I don't I don't know any of these farts your fire fest is that you had a burrito ripping did you guys ripping did you guys see my tweet last night no i did

Speaker 1 oh yes the guy who ordered you two sodas i the these

Speaker 2 the waiter comes over and starts pouring a soda. I was like, I didn't order this soda.
And then he puts another one on the table.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh my God, somebody just fucking did that. Two sodas, Max.

Speaker 1 If you see Max, get him two sodas. No, do not get me two.
Every time you see him in public, get him two sodas.

Speaker 13 But the man needs two sodas.

Speaker 9 The best thing to happen to Max, though, was memes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Dave hates memes.
Yeah. Memes, what's your Fire Fest?

Speaker 1 I had a pretty good week. Oh, okay.

Speaker 20 No, this week sucked dick. Sunday night, Wi-Fi didn't work.
Jameis Winston interview took too long to upload.

Speaker 20 And then I bombed on stage in front of Dave and Frank Fleming, who won't forget about this ever.

Speaker 1 No, Frank playing the cricket sound was very rude. Very rude.
Chad, how'd you think the week went? Dave's a hate.

Speaker 13 Let Chad have the mic real quick. Chad's our sound guy.
He's been with us all week.

Speaker 1 We always do this Super Bowl week. Chad, what do you think about this operation?

Speaker 9 Operation here is all good.

Speaker 5 I think the week went well, especially for the recordings and the stuff that I did. Got some really cool people.

Speaker 1 uh got a shout out to kittle I oh boy yes yes chad got a picture with kittle yep yep yeah dad was stoked about that too because he's the Iowa boy all right love it uh and yeah great week all right shout out chad shout out chad

Speaker 12 I'm sure we gave a whole shout out to our sound guy and then he fucked up the audio Super Bowl Sunday but we're not going to be here Sunday so great Chad yeah so this audio is not fucked up yeah yeah confirm chat hopefully hopefully not oh I do have another real fire fest I just remembered

Speaker 9 I started vaping again this week and I blame Hank Lockwood for getting me into it because Hank was so stressed out on Sunday when we got here. He just started ripping a vape.

Speaker 9 I was like, What are you doing, dude?

Speaker 5 Ripping a vape?

Speaker 9 He's like, Yeah, I'm just trying to calm the nerves. I was like, Hank, let me get a drag of that.
And I took a drag, and then about two hours later, I went and bought my own rig.

Speaker 5 Nice.

Speaker 9 Now I'm back on the hard stuff. Yeah.
Nice. I'm going to have to start smoking.
I smoked cigarettes last night to wean myself off the vape. That's the best way to quit vape.

Speaker 9 So I'm just going to have to smoke more cigarettes. Okay.

Speaker 14 I love that our hotel is smoke-free.

Speaker 1 I hate that.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's kick it to ourselves back in the studio.
Last one with the schwam.

Speaker 1 Everyone, enjoy Super Bowl Sunday, and we will see you on Monday morning. All right, Super Bowl week wrapped.

Speaker 1 The big game is coming up, and we still got the schwam for the lottery balls all week long. If you've been following along, he guessed 22 on Monday, it was 56.
He guessed 18 on Wednesday, it was 22.

Speaker 10 So now, what do you do?

Speaker 9 Numbers:

Speaker 28 do I do it in Roman numerals?

Speaker 1 You can do it for every Roman. Super Bowl 58.
Okay,

Speaker 1 58. I'll go 71 again.
I'll go 8 again.

Speaker 1 40 for Hank, 18 for Jake. Memes,

Speaker 1 21 and 3 for memes.

Speaker 1 One.

Speaker 1 One.

Speaker 1 first time one's one first time it's ever hit one love you guys

Speaker 9 oh boom if we're still recording do you have a do you have a first touchdown pick oh yeah oh

Speaker 1 for the people oh this is important stuff very important first touchdown you wanted me to make it goofy or try to win it no you want to win it whatever you think whatever you say we're gonna bet that's true

Speaker 28 well he's the favorite of it right like Kelsey's the lowest number.

Speaker 1 No, McCaffrey would definitely be. McCaffrey's numbers are nuts.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 28 I'd like to come up with some bizarre?

Speaker 28 Hurting my head too much.

Speaker 1 What about Gray, the other tight end on the Chiefs? That would be. Yeah.

Speaker 28 Let's score the touchdown or not right away.

Speaker 28 Kelsey's the obvious.

Speaker 1 How about

Speaker 1 just for the heck of it?

Speaker 28 I don't know that you should bet this.

Speaker 1 I will.

Speaker 1 Nothing you can do. No, no, no, no.
No, don't say it. No, no, no.

Speaker 10 Don't talk you out of it.

Speaker 9 Say it.

Speaker 1 Don't worry. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 We won't bet.

Speaker 28 But we've already given our pick for the game. Yeah, yeah.
So I've said the Chiefs will win, which doesn't mean they're going to score first.

Speaker 1 This is a me problem, not a you problem. Oh, whatever you say, I'm going to bet, but that's not your fault.
That's my fault. Boy, are we so happy with Valdez Gantling? Oh, okay.
All right. It's in.

Speaker 1 It's in.

Speaker 28 I mean, now that's got to be a

Speaker 1 big number. Yeah, that's a big number.
It's in. It's in.
I'm no choice. We're going to put a lot of shekels on it.

Speaker 10 Oh, we're putting a lot of shells.

Speaker 1 I have no choice on it. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We're putting a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 You can't say something else.

Speaker 9 Expect us not to take it.

Speaker 1 The plan is simple. I'm going to put a lot of money on Tails.
That will hit. And then we put all the winnings on Valdez Scantling.

Speaker 1 Let's assume we all put in Tails. Tails never fails.

Speaker 1 Is that true? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It rhymes. It's the thing.
Tails never fails.

Speaker 9 It rhymes, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's definitely not true.

Speaker 1 I've lost a lot of money on Super Shit.

Speaker 9 You have to bet the over on the national anthem, too. Always tell me.

Speaker 1 How long it is? Yeah, you have to bet over. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Who's singing it this year? Reba McIntyre. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 28 it could go either way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you might not lose the time.

Speaker 14 Tails of three of the last five. Tails three of the last five.

Speaker 1 Okay, three of the last five. We're on Tails.

Speaker 1 Valdez Scantling. Valdez Santling.

Speaker 28 That's not going to be their early gameplay.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 You can't talk me out of my gameplay.

Speaker 4 No, it's just like a feel-good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. This is my first 15 plays scripted.
It's Tails. It's a pizza.
It's Valdez Scantling.

Speaker 1 We got it all set.

Speaker 9 I think if Valdez Scantling scores the first touchdown, I think the 49ers would be like, what is this does not feel good to us?

Speaker 13 Yeah, we might as well just quit right now.

Speaker 1 It's going to be 22 to 18. Yeah.
That's a be the way that he would call that. Yeah.

Speaker 28 I don't think so because if they're at the 25

Speaker 28 They're at the 10 he's not going to do it.

Speaker 28 They're at the it would have to be like from the third.

Speaker 9 And one of those weird Andy Reid red zone plays. You know, they have two guys in motion,

Speaker 9 shovel pass to a reverse coming around the edge.

Speaker 28 Yeah, but I don't know that he would carry it.

Speaker 1 Well, they're not going to give it a Miko. Probably not.
No, I mean,

Speaker 1 Miko throwing the ball

Speaker 17 if you're at midfield, send him long.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wait, so Miko throwing the ball to NBS?

Speaker 1 Now, this is getting real. I like it.
Yeah. I like it.

Speaker 1 I'm retiring. We're not doing a show next year.
I'm going to win so much money on this. I'm retiring.
Are we still on?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're still on. I'm going to retire.
We'll just have you come talk ball. We won't even have microphones.
Micole, he can run.

Speaker 4 He's the fastest.

Speaker 1 Yep. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's it. He's the fastest.

Speaker 1 Ayuk's pretty fast. Debo's pretty fast.
McCaffrey's pretty fast. They're all fast.
Burt's fast. Yeah, they are.
They're all fast.

Speaker 28 I'd love to see Uschek score, but

Speaker 28 they don't run him like that.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 we'll go MVS first first touchdown, Ushek, anytime touchdown.

Speaker 13 Love it.

Speaker 1 There's the plan.

Speaker 1 They don't

Speaker 28 get five or six times a game.

Speaker 1 They can't talk me out of it. I know.
They don't. I was trying to not go chalk.

Speaker 9 You know, they did give him the ball, I think, inside the five last week.

Speaker 1 I think he got a touch.

Speaker 9 He'll get one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was just a dress rehearsal for this week. Yeah, we're in.

Speaker 1 I like.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 28 That might have more of a shot. Well, not a first score.
Anytime.

Speaker 1 I don't like it. I love it.

Speaker 28 Alder Scanling might be in any time. Yeah.
No.

Speaker 1 We're going first. We're going first.

Speaker 11 In any time.

Speaker 11 Look at it.

Speaker 28 What else would be a first? Here we go.

Speaker 9 MVS, anytime, plus 550. First touchdown, 31.

Speaker 11 Oh, I like that.

Speaker 9 31 to 1.

Speaker 1 Anytime? Anytime. Oh, no, sorry, first.

Speaker 9 First is 31 to 1.

Speaker 11 That's a hammer play.

Speaker 1 Check for me.

Speaker 9 You check. You have a hammer play.
You check it out. Anytime, 10 to 1.

Speaker 1 I like that. Perfect.
I like that. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 28 No, that's... He should be about 8 to 1, so I think you're getting a...

Speaker 9 Good value. Yeah, you're getting some value there.

Speaker 28 Valdez scaling is 31 to 1.

Speaker 28 So what are they? McCaffrey and Kelsey or whatever they are.

Speaker 9 For first or anytime?

Speaker 1 No, first.

Speaker 9 Actually, Travis Kelsey first is 8 to 1.

Speaker 9 Not bad.

Speaker 28 Pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Should I go lower than him?

Speaker 9 McCaffrey is plus 360 first touchdown, which is absurd.

Speaker 1 That's just this is perfect, Boom. I'm going to put, I'm going to parlay Ushek, anytime touchdown with Marquez Valdez Scantling, first touchdown, five grand to win $1 million.

Speaker 1 Done.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't have. If you were asking me that, I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 I'm going to do it.

Speaker 1 All right. Thank you, Boom.

Speaker 28 There's difficult names to spell.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 28 So that should count.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You check.
Why not?

Speaker 1 Why not us?

Speaker 11 All right, thank you, Boom. As always, that was you're the best.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize we were still in the speakeasy.

Speaker 1 Say, love you guys. Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me on

Speaker 1 I'm talking

Speaker 1 Needless to say

Speaker 1 I'm on sentence, but I'll be still a little way

Speaker 1 Further than life is okay,

Speaker 1 say after me

Speaker 1 It's not better to be safe, it's not better to be safe, it's not better to be safe, it's not better to be safe, it's not better to be safe.

Speaker 1 Take on me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me up

Speaker 1 I'll be gone

Speaker 1 without

Speaker 1 you.