Joe Flacco, Divisional Round Preview + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a very special guest. It is Joe Flacco.
It's been a long time coming. The elite man himself.
Awesome interview with Joe. Really, really fun time with him.

Speaker 1 We're also going to talk the divisional round. We got four great football games.
We're going to talk about some coaching news.

Speaker 1 We got coaches that we thought were going to be fired that are not fired and some other coaches still looking for a job. And then we're going to finish up with Fire Fest of the week.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to Pardon My Take. Today is Friday, January 19th,

Speaker 1 and we have the divisional round, boys. Before we do that, though, we should talk a little coaching news.
Yeah. Because Mike McCarthy is staying.
Mike Tomlin is staying.

Speaker 1 Nick Siriani is potentially staying.

Speaker 4 Probably staying.

Speaker 1 Probably maybe.

Speaker 4 And we don't know what's going to happen by tomorrow, but I am, again, tracking Arthur Blank's private jet. It's landing in Boston, Massachusetts right now.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 Belichick, Falcons, collision course. Wow.
I think it's happening. It is happening.
It might have already happened by the time this comes out.

Speaker 1 I would say it. You want to break the news, Hank? You want to say it? No.
Oh. Okay.
It could have been the first.

Speaker 5 Give it to Leroy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. R.I.P.

Speaker 5 I mean, Blake, geez, R.I.P.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Mike McCarthy, though, staying. Did you just kill my dog?

Speaker 1 No, I killed him. Oh, yeah, you killed Blake.
I was Blake.

Speaker 5 I was remembering.

Speaker 4 What are you, Max?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I guess I might have. My bad.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 Let's go team by team though.

Speaker 1 Mike McCarthy is staying.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you actually saw a bunch of people. Greg Olson.
Turns out he was right.

Speaker 1 Someone wanted Mike McCarthy. It just happened to be Jerry Jones that wanted Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 4 Jerry Jones fell all over himself. Fell all over himself.
To rehire Mike McCarthy for another year. Yes.

Speaker 4 And it's not out of this world to have a coach in Dallas going into their last year because Jason Garrett did it. Yep.
What happened with him afterwards? He got fired. He's on NBC.
He's torturing.

Speaker 4 He's on the cocks. So Mike McCarthy, not going to be fired this year.
As a Commanders fan, I...

Speaker 4 I said that it makes me very happy that Mike's coming back, and I know that they absolutely demolished the Commanders in the regular season.

Speaker 4 I know that Mike McCarthy is a very good regular season coach, but when you play against really good teams in the playoffs, you're going to have to win three games, maybe four games, to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 And every game, even the games that the Cowboys win have those small moments in them where you're like, if they're playing against a better team, that gets taken advantage of.

Speaker 4 So all I'm saying is, much like you with Aaron Rodgers, when the Cowboys lose, that's my Super Bowl, which I really truly enjoy. And I'm glad that I'm going to get to enjoy that for the next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Mike McCarthy is a good coach in the relative term that, like, what, three straight years, 12 and 5, he obviously has a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 People were doing the resume thing yesterday, where it's like, yeah, why wouldn't you fire Mike McCarthy?

Speaker 1 Like, he, you know, or you got to keep a guy like that around because he's done good things in Dallas. Obviously, they haven't gone deep in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 People were also pointing out, like, look at Andy Reid before they started winning Super Bowls in Kansas City, where it's like 12 and 4, 10 and 6, 11 and 5. Everyone said he was a choke artist.

Speaker 1 The only issue with that is Patrick Mahomes showed up.

Speaker 1 I don't think Patrick Mahomes is showing up in Dallas. You have Dak.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And Dak is actually kind of like McNabb in that sense. Right.
Where he's like a good quarterback. Right.

Speaker 1 But it's like these two guys together in the pressure situations,

Speaker 1 will it falter? I, so initially, I was like, that's stupid. They're bringing Mike McCarthy back.
And

Speaker 1 I don't have the smartest brain, and I can be swayed very easily. And I was.
Jake Ferguson tweeting out the video of Mike McCarthy dancing with the big chain to 50 Cent Many Men.

Speaker 1 I was like, yup, okay, Mike McCarthy, this is a good rehire. Yeah.
Because that was like, that was a video. I was like, these guys obviously love them.
And again,

Speaker 1 if you put pretty much any video with 50 Cent Many Men, I'm going to be like, damn, that was badass. Yeah,

Speaker 4 it gets your blood going. Right.
And you see a player fighting. Do you watch it? Yeah, I have seen that before.

Speaker 1 And it was cool.

Speaker 4 It is cool. It's a cool look for Mike.

Speaker 4 If you're Mike McCarthy, it's good that you're coming back for another year. It's good to have another job.
Good to not be fired.

Speaker 4 Also, the narrative every single week with Mike McCarthy is going to be for another year, how fired is this guy? Yeah. He's been fired for like two and a half years already.

Speaker 1 Well, he could also just pick up some more hobbies and become even the busier cat in Texas. He's already the busiest.

Speaker 4 Yeah, start learning how to do Rubik's Cube. Start learning card tricks.

Speaker 1 I'm happy because it gives us one more chance to bet against Mike McCarthy in the playoffs. Yeah, it's good.
So just put a reminder in, Jake, we'll just do that and we'll be happy.

Speaker 1 And then next year, he'll probably be fired. And that doesn't diminish that he's a pretty good coach, but I just don't trust everything.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure I like this new kinder, gentler Jerry Jones. Yeah.
Like being so accepting of coaches.

Speaker 1 Although he kept Jason Garrett around for a very long time.

Speaker 4 Sometimes I think he likes to do that to torture them, though. Right.
It's like working for me is more of a punishment than me firing you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How long was Jason Garrett the coach for the Cowboys? Because you think of Jerry Jones, you think of the like, Jimmy Johnson, we got to move on. Like I'm the boss.

Speaker 4 Like, like, what, six years?

Speaker 1 I think it was way more than that. It was one, 12.

Speaker 6 11 through 19.

Speaker 1 10 years. 10 years.
10 years.

Speaker 4 So that's 20 software updates.

Speaker 1 Eight years too many. Yeah.
Like So

Speaker 1 he kind of. He had an interim in 2010 and then 11 through 19.
Nine years.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 How do you feel, Hank, as a Cowboys fan?

Speaker 5 I don't know how people can support this team.

Speaker 5 I don't know how you can have the regular seasons they've had and the playoff performances they've had capped off by one of the stinkiest stinkers ever thrown in the history of football.

Speaker 5 Like that was as bad a performance as you can imagine that everyone was leaving

Speaker 5 with maybe 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter, like maybe even before. It was never close.

Speaker 5 And it's just, like, how do you root for them in the regular season, knowing that

Speaker 5 you have to win in the playoffs and regular season success means nothing. It doesn't translate.
Dak is fucking horrible.

Speaker 5 Like Mike McCarthy, they were showing the videos where he was consoling Judy on, or not Judy.

Speaker 5 Cee Dee Dee De Lamb. Cee De Lamb on the sideline in the first quarter as if there was major tension between him and Dak.

Speaker 5 I said if they keep him around, I'm done with the Cowboys. I'm done with the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Wow. So he lost the fan today.

Speaker 4 You were asking, like, how can they keep this guy around if he's not about what Cowboys football should be about, which is winning playoff games? Jason Garrett was 2-3 in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 And before that, they hadn't won the game.

Speaker 1 One of those is Tony's fault, though.

Speaker 4 Before that, they hadn't won a playoff game in a long-ass time. Long ass.
So the Cowboys, they don't win playoff games.

Speaker 1 They get to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's in their DNA at this point. It's not the 90s anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 But there's so many good coaches. I just.

Speaker 5 How can you, as an owner, watch that performance and be like, we're right there?

Speaker 1 Maybe he's just, yeah, maybe Jerry's just like getting old and he's, you get older, you just don't want to have to deal with like interviewing new people and talking, learning someone's new name.

Speaker 5 There's so many coaches out there.

Speaker 4 He might be getting too much perspective on the world.

Speaker 1 I was.

Speaker 4 As you get older, you're like, you start to realize what's important. That's interpersonal relationships, friendships, what you're going to leave behind as your legacy.

Speaker 4 I think Jerry Jones is now entering that stage where he doesn't want to make any new enemies.

Speaker 1 It is pretty shocking if you had asked us on Sunday or no, Tuesday after the Cowboys or after the divisional round or the wildcard round was over, would the Steelers, Eagles, and Cowboys all keep their coaches?

Speaker 1 No chance we would have said yes. One of the three would have been gone.

Speaker 4 Yeah, especially considering this is the best free agent coaching class maybe ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Mike McCarthy stays in Dallas. Mike Tomlin's staying in Pittsburgh.
He said he's going to bring in quarterback competition. He's going to change some things.

Speaker 1 They're going to get a new offensive coordinator. He's also Mike Tomlin, I feel like the way the Steelers operate,

Speaker 1 he was on the hot seat for like one single day because now he's back and he probably will sign an extension this summer.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and it turns out that Mike Tomlin was just upset about the loss. Right.
So when he was asked the question, he just didn't want to address that. That is kind of Mike Tomlin in a nutshell.

Speaker 4 He's like, okay, that's not important, so I'm not even going to address it. I'm going to walk away.

Speaker 4 But yeah, he's going to be back, probably stay the head coach for another 10 years in Pittsburgh, I imagine. Although Vrabel would have been nice.

Speaker 4 I think we both wanted Vrabel to get that job if it was open.

Speaker 4 But yeah, Tomlin is he's proven that he can do a lot of good work in Pittsburgh, maybe without a superstar quarterback, which is hard to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we also do have to take a step back because we root for bad franchises. The coaching carousel, the revolving door is always going.

Speaker 1 It probably is correct for some of these franchises, specifically the Steelers, where it's like, yeah, they have a way and they're going to keep doing their way. And over time, it has worked.

Speaker 1 And, like, yeah, our reaction is different than how the Steelers operate, which is probably a good thing because we're very dumb.

Speaker 4 Yeah, when something goes bad with our teams, it never gets fixed.

Speaker 1 No, the instant fix button is fire the coach. Yeah,

Speaker 4 there's no chance that you can have some of these guys that we've had over the years and be like, let's give them another year and see how they do.

Speaker 4 It's like, if things go bad, it's not getting any better.

Speaker 1 Right, and we're talking about three playoff teams.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so it might get better in Pittsburgh, it might get better in Dallas, might get better in Philadelphia. Maybe.

Speaker 1 Maybe. So that's the last one.
Nick Siriani possibly staying. Max?

Speaker 7 There's no report one way or the other right now.

Speaker 1 Well, the report was that

Speaker 1 Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman basically tasked Nick Siriani with coming to them with a list of coordinators that he thinks are good for the team. And like that,

Speaker 1 so the initial thought is, well, if a coach is looking for coordinators, he's probably kept his job.

Speaker 1 Then the report came out: well, this same exact thing happened with Doug Peterson when he got fired.

Speaker 1 Jeff Laurie and Howie Rosen said, come to us with a list.

Speaker 1 It was not an adequate list for them, and they fired Doug Peterson. So that is what Max is hoping for, that Nick Siriani can't get anyone to pick up the phone for him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, basically, Lori is asking Nick Siriani, like, bring me a list, a presentation of guys that you think will make you suck less as a head coach.

Speaker 1 I actually think it's something different. I think it's give me a list of guys who still think that you're good.

Speaker 1 Because if you're going to be an offensive or defensive coordinator for the Eagles, you're tying your future to Nick Siriani.

Speaker 1 So it's a kind of a fucked-up test where it's like, how good of the coaches think that you're still good?

Speaker 4 You know, it's genius. Can you get anybody? Would the entire coaching staff be better with you, or would it be better with a new guy that's bringing in his guy?

Speaker 1 Right. Like if Nick Siriani comes to the owner and Harry Roseman with the names like Luke Goetze and Matt Patricia, and they're like, wait, what?

Speaker 4 Isn't that showing that you don't have that much faith in your head coach, though? Saying, like,

Speaker 4 we don't really trust you. Show us the guys that you can bring in that will fix you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I really do think it's like, how many people in the NFL still think that you're good? That's the list.

Speaker 1 Because if Nick Siriani calls you up, you're making the calculation, like, is this guy dead already?

Speaker 1 Should I hitch my wagon to him? I like this move. This is actually kind of a genius move.
It's going to be a list of guys who think that Nick Siriani is still a good coach. That's all it is.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, it's also a roster.

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 7 Like, like Cliff Kingsbury is looking at the Bears because Caleb Williams is coming in.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 Right. There's coordinators out there that could look at that Eagles' offense and be like, of course,

Speaker 7 I would love this job because of that personnel.

Speaker 1 But it's always a nerve-wracking thing if you're a coordinator to be like, am I stepping into a job that I will be gone from in a year? No matter what happens. Yeah, yes.

Speaker 7 But I think that has just as much to do with the personnel than it does to Nick Siriani.

Speaker 4 You know what I would do if I were Nick Siriani, I would put down a list of guys, like the top guys out there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like Ben Johnson told me that he would leave the Lions to come here as an offense coordinator.

Speaker 1 I was wondering.

Speaker 4 And then hope that they don't call those references.

Speaker 7 Like, can he go to

Speaker 7 like those people have to be

Speaker 7 into come if he comes with that name.

Speaker 4 Ideally, you would want guys that are currently employed.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it has to be a list of names that Nick Sirioni's actually talked to to say that they would be interested in coming.

Speaker 7 Otherwise, I don't want to hear interested.

Speaker 7 He goes to Lori and puts those names down,

Speaker 7 he's not allowed to be like, all right, you keep your job, and then him to go back to Lori and be like, oh, he never mind, doesn't want to come anymore.

Speaker 4 It would have to be guys that are like quarterbacks coaches. Because I don't think you could talk to an offensive coordinator that they're currently under contract.

Speaker 1 Play callers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Play callers.

Speaker 7 Because Brian Johnson's a good quarterback coach, not a good play caller.

Speaker 4 Just get Big Dom to run the defense.

Speaker 1 So, do you think that he's going to get fired?

Speaker 7 If I had

Speaker 7 gun to my head, I would say no.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's going to fire. Brutal for you.

Speaker 7 But I don't think it's. It's bad for you.

Speaker 1 I think you got.

Speaker 4 Especially because you said you weren't going to watch any Easy.

Speaker 5 Is he a must-fire or can't keep?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 good question, Hank.

Speaker 7 Wait, there's too many questions.

Speaker 1 Must-fire or can't keep.

Speaker 6 I thought

Speaker 7 I would say

Speaker 1 must-fire or can't keep. Let's see how the cards are.
It's a very important question that you have to answer. Yes, it is.
Must-fire or can't keep. Which one is it?

Speaker 1 Can't keep. Oh, that's bad for you.

Speaker 5 Close to ownership.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you also, if you can't keep someone, you could also be like, maybe I can keep them. If you must-fire, you don't really change from must-fire.
Yeah. So you should have said must-fire.

Speaker 1 You answered that anyway.

Speaker 7 No, but no, no, no, no, because obviously I'm going to. Like, if he comes with some exciting coordinator names.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, he's back in. If he comes with some exciting coordinator names, I could.
Coordinator merchant.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he needs to find like the best coordinators.

Speaker 7 I just think he's so corny.

Speaker 1 Right. And what

Speaker 1 do you think?

Speaker 4 So if you're in the office space and you're sitting him down in the office, you say, Nick, what would you say it is you do here all day? Does he just leaf through motivational booklets?

Speaker 1 No, he probably would say,

Speaker 1 what do you think Rocky did all day?

Speaker 7 I want there to be a press conference.

Speaker 4 He's going to bring a frozen meat truck into training camp next year. Be like, beat the fuck out of these ribs.

Speaker 1 Here's a log. Pretend we're fighting the Russians.

Speaker 7 The vets seemed like they backed him. So, I mean...
Who's that?

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts?

Speaker 7 Jalen Hurts has not really.

Speaker 7 But, like, Fletcher Cox, like, rider.

Speaker 1 Who's the most important person going forward on the Eagles?

Speaker 7 Jalen Hurts, for sure.

Speaker 4 Fletcher Cox, I think he said that's a clown question, bro, right? He pulled the Bryce Harper on him.

Speaker 7 Something like that. Yeah.
Jason Kelsey also was.

Speaker 1 Well, he's not going to be on the team anymore.

Speaker 4 He might be, he doesn't really care he'll probably be in like you know he'll probably be in the front office or something he'll he'll be he'll be attached he pulled a great move yesterday yeah if you guys going through mcdonald's drive-through i would take kelcey as my head coach he gave an autographed jersey to his favorite drive-through worker

Speaker 1 how how mad would you guys be if you were retiring and didn't get to reveal it on the podcast well he did he's gonna he said he's not retiring yet he hasn't made the decision but that was uh yeah it's because he wants to do it on the yeah on the podcast we would never save something for the podcast i respect that i respect that game oh of course yeah that's a day one podcast guy move.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's still upsetting. You wait to announce your girlfriend on the podcast.
You break up with your coach on the podcast. That sort of thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That would be getting broken up with if Nick Siriani made Jason Kelsey retire. It's just basically saying I don't want to.
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 I can't do that anymore.

Speaker 7 I want Jason Kelsey to be the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I like that. Leader of men.

Speaker 1 Leader of men. Leader of men.
Pete Briscoe has completely changed Max's outlook.

Speaker 1 He's just been walking around being like, we need a leader of men.

Speaker 4 I love that you had the wrongest guy on the show this year. And you're like, yeah, you know what? He's right about that.

Speaker 7 No, something about those words. I'm like, you know what?

Speaker 4 Is it the leader? Leader of men. Or is it the men that you like?

Speaker 4 I like the men.

Speaker 1 Nick Ciarni might actually be a perfect college coach.

Speaker 1 His corny shit would work. Yeah.
Because those guys can leave after a couple years.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, Max is down bad. Okay.
We're going to get into the games.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 Saturday, Texans going to Baltimore. Maybe some weather.
Maybe some cold weather.

Speaker 1 The Baltimore Ravens have to win this game.

Speaker 4 We got a narrative going on.

Speaker 1 Okay. Lamar.
Yeah, this is the biggest.

Speaker 4 Big-time narrative. Right.
If he doesn't win this game, then that's going to follow him around for the rest of his career.

Speaker 1 It's this specific game. I understand that, you know, Lamar needs to win a Super Bowl to get into that next level, but this specific game, because

Speaker 1 if you play the Bills or Chiefs next round, that's a coin-flip game. Anything can happen.

Speaker 1 You're a 10-point favorite, 9.5-point favorite at home against the Houston Texans, rookie head coach, rookie QB. You have to win this game if you're the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I said that I was going to stop doubting C.J. Stroud.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to doubt C.J. Stroud until he gives me reason to.
So

Speaker 4 I think the Ravens, I don't know. I don't want to sit there in trouble, but they've had two weeks off, right? So is this too much rest? Because week 18, they didn't play any of their starters.

Speaker 4 And then last week, obviously, the bye week.

Speaker 1 John Harbaugh, though, too much rest. He's been biohacking with the trip to London.
Maybe he biohacked this week. I don't know how.

Speaker 4 Biohacked the two weeks in a row.

Speaker 1 I don't know how he worked, but maybe he did it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I have no reason to doubt C.J. Stroud, so I'm not going to.
We've got D'Amiko Ryan, and there was a clip of him.

Speaker 4 Did you see the clip from the Browns game where he was talking to his linebacker, and he was saying, hey, the quarterback, when he moves to this side, slide right in front of his receiver.

Speaker 4 And then there was a clip that they edited in of D'Amico back when he played, undercutting his guy against Joe Flacco.

Speaker 4 And then his linebacker steps in, picks six to the house. I'm not going to doubt D'Amiko.
I'm not going to doubt CJ Stroud.

Speaker 4 The Ravens are a better team all around, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 The Texans have lightning in a bottle right now. And

Speaker 4 I kind of leaning towards them. Okay.
At least against the spread.

Speaker 1 I am going to doubt them. Well, I'm not going to doubt C.J.
Stroud, but I'm going to more stamp an approval of the Baltimore Ravens and the style of football they play and their entire team.

Speaker 1 Because it's not, you know, Lamar has receivers now. Mark Andrews is going to be back.
Dalvin Cook, watch out. Playoff Dalvin.

Speaker 4 Yeah, playoff D is back.

Speaker 4 Is Mark Andrews actually playing? I know he preached.

Speaker 1 That's questionable. Okay.
But it likely's been great. So, you know, it might be we're going to wait another week with Mark Andrews.
The Ravens defense, though, is what I'm betting on in this game.

Speaker 1 And I'll I'll read you a quote from Patrick Queen, and I'll then tell the context behind it. He said, we play a brand of football that people don't want to play.

Speaker 1 Everybody wants to be out here being cute, playing basketball and grass and stuff, and we are not with all that. You can do all that stuff.

Speaker 1 We're just going to hit you in the mouth every play, honestly. We couldn't care less about all the pretty stuff you do, gimmick stuff.
You'll have to line up and play football.

Speaker 1 You still have to get touched. So that's our mindset.
That's how we want to come out and just hit people in the mouth. So that's Patrick Queen's quote.
When was that Patrick Queen quote from?

Speaker 1 After the 49ers game.

Speaker 1 The Ravens played the 49ers, kick the shit out of them. The Ravens played the Dolphins, kick the shit out of them.
Bobby Sloek, where did he come from?

Speaker 4 San Fran.

Speaker 1 Kyle Shanahan. Yeah.
I think the Ravens' defense is going to kick the shit out of them.

Speaker 4 Do you think that I would not say that the Texans' offense is candy-ass or gimmicks?

Speaker 1 It's not, but there's some concepts that are the same, and I think that the Ravens' defense, what they can do to confuse people, you know,

Speaker 1 they move safeties around. You know, they get pressure with four.
They get pressure with blitzes. I just, I think the Ravens defense, this is a Ravens defense statement game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just take Lamar out of it. I think this is a Ravens defense statement game that this is a different defense than what the Texans have been playing.

Speaker 1 And, yeah, the Browns had a very good defense this year, but they sucked on Saturday, last Saturday, and

Speaker 1 they weren't great on the road. But the string of defenses the Texans have played, I think this is a totally different piece.

Speaker 4 You know who's rooting the hardest for the Texans this weekend? The S2 cognition test people. Yes.
The ones that said that C.J. Stroud couldn't process things quickly.
Yes.

Speaker 4 I'll quickly flip back to that. I'll be like, I should have trusted the science.
Yeah. If the Texans fail on the road.
But yeah, something about C.J. Stroud.
I don't know. He's wise beyond his ears.

Speaker 4 He's incredible. The defense for the Ravens is concerning.
It's a really fucking good defense, and they do hit you in the mouth. But I don't think that the Texans' offense is gimmicky.

Speaker 4 I don't think that it's, I don't think it's based on tricks. They don't run that many.

Speaker 1 No, they don't. But it's just, I just think that this defense is going to, I think they're going to swarm them.
I think they're going to to confuse him.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to do a lot of stuff that, like, again, this is, like, the Texans have been incredible, and C.J. Stroud is incredible.

Speaker 1 I've said many times, I mean, best rookie season ever, and there's, like, four quarterbacks I'd rather have over him right this second. I just think this Ravens defense,

Speaker 1 statement game for the Ravens defense. Maybe bad weather, statement game.

Speaker 4 Weather forecast for this weekend in Baltimore, 27 as the high,

Speaker 4 and it's going to be wins of up to 17 miles per hour. Run the football.

Speaker 1 Lamar's going to run the football.

Speaker 4 Also, it might fuck with the Texans' kicking game because everyone always talks about not Three Rivers, but Heinz Field, whatever it's called now, Akricher, being the hardest place to kick.

Speaker 4 Baltimore, very, very hard to kick too, unless you kick there all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Anyone else like anything in this game?

Speaker 5 Lamar over Rushing.

Speaker 4 I like that. I like Odell over 50 receiving yards.
It's paying out 2-1. Because Stingley's going to probably match up against Zay Flowers.
And last week, the Browns, I think

Speaker 4 they stayed away from their number one receiver, Cooper, I think 80% of the time. So I like the balls going to Odell this weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, do you have nerd nuggets? I do. Great.

Speaker 6 For the Houston Texans, last week, quarterback CJ Stroud passed Justin Herbert for the second most passing yards.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 6 For the second most passing yards ever by a rookie, including postseason. Stroud now only trails Andrew Luck for the record and can break it.
by throwing for 303 yards on Saturday.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, for the Ravens,

Speaker 7 Nerd Nugget of the Week.

Speaker 6 Ravens head coach John Harbaugh has a chance to lead the Ravens to their fourth AFC championship game during his tenure, all of which came between 2008 and 2012.

Speaker 6 John and his brother Jim, formerly of the 49ers, are the only head coaches in NFL history to advance to three conference title games in their first five years as NFL head coaches.

Speaker 4 That's pretty cool. Good for the Harbaughs.

Speaker 6 Jim did it in his first three.

Speaker 4 I have a bird nugget. Okay.
A bird nugget for the Ravens of the week. Did you know that Ravens can mimic the sound of toilet flushing?

Speaker 1 Ooh. Yeah.
I didn't know that. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 I almost want to get a raven and just have it

Speaker 1 toilet flushing.

Speaker 6 If they lose, that's an easy layup joke.

Speaker 4 It is, yeah. Or if Lamar has to sprint to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 Also, a highly respected mind that I take a lot of info from said that

Speaker 1 playing in a dome versus playing outside, different game.

Speaker 4 Different game, 100%.

Speaker 1 That was Benjamin Mintz. Yep.
He told me that. It's fact.

Speaker 4 It's fact.

Speaker 1 It is fact.

Speaker 4 There was, I think they asked Todd Bowles that this weekend about going up to Detroit. They're like, how are you preparing for the weather? He's like, well, it's inside.

Speaker 1 And then, of course, like every story that ever happens online, then we had a bunch of people being like, it's fucked up. People are making fun of this reporter.

Speaker 1 She probably isn't covering this beach. Just shut up.
It's a fucking, it's a funny clip.

Speaker 1 She thought the Lions are playing outside. Leave it.
That's it.

Speaker 4 I think we can laugh about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just chill. It's okay.
We can just have a moment and then move on. No one's crucifying her.
No one's saying anything bad.

Speaker 1 It was a funny moment. Todd Bowles handled it well.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game, Packers at 49ers.

Speaker 1 I'm also going to take the 49ers in this game.

Speaker 1 I feel like we fall for it every year where it's like the one seed you don't see play, and then some team has a big upset because they're a lower seed, and you're like, well, they just want a playoff game.

Speaker 1 They're so hot. They're pretty good.
Niners are also pretty good.

Speaker 4 So the Packers game against the Cowboys was very similar to the 49ers game also against the Cowboys. Correct.
So you think they might match up?

Speaker 4 I think the 49ers' defense is much, much better than the Cowboys in terms of the dudes that they have.

Speaker 4 Minus Micah Parsons, obviously, and Cowboys, they've got some good cornerbacks, but they're getting Eric Armstead back.

Speaker 4 So you've got Chase Young, you've got Joey Bosa, and you've got Eric Armstead rushing the passer. I think that's going to be a nightmare for Green Bay.

Speaker 1 I also think the bigger difference between the Cowboys and the 49ers when playing against the Packers is the Cowboys couldn't run the ball all year. And like they just couldn't.

Speaker 1 Tony Pollard had a disappointing year. They were never able to get a good ground game.
Guess what the 49ers can do?

Speaker 4 They can run the fucking football.

Speaker 1 They can run the fucking football. And they can also, even if they're not running it in a handoff, they can do swing passes and screen passes.
And Christian McCaffrey can run all over.

Speaker 1 He's probably, he's had, what, three weeks off now because he didn't play in that last week game or two weeks off. So he's going to be healthy.
Yeah, I think the Niners are going to take it to him.

Speaker 1 I also love the over in this game. It's my nuclear missile whale play.

Speaker 4 Did you know the history between LaFleur and

Speaker 4 you have Sean McVay, who was, I guess, kind of referring to LaFleur as his older brother, even though Sean McVay was his boss? Yep.

Speaker 4 Back in 2017, when they were on the Rams, they got into a fight after practice.

Speaker 4 I think they were 10-1 at the time. They got into a fight, spilled over into the coach's office.
They started screaming at each other. LaFleur said, Fire me.
Just fucking fire me.

Speaker 4 And McVay said, I'm not going to fire you.

Speaker 1 I quit.

Speaker 4 So McVay said that he was going to quit because LaFleur wanted Sean McVay to fire him. And then LaFleur had to tell Sean McVay, no, don't quit.
Don't quit. So

Speaker 4 then LaFleur rehired Sean McVay in that fight, and then he became what we all know of Sean McVay today. Okay.
So they've got obviously a lot of history.

Speaker 1 Wait, Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan?

Speaker 4 This was Sean McVay.

Speaker 1 And Matt LaFleur.

Speaker 4 And Matt LaFleur. Got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But what I'm saying is like, they've got, we're going to get the fucking graphic this weekend of the Kyle Shanahan coaching free, which has somehow crept to include Chris Forrester, the offensive line coach in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 Just keep adding dudes.

Speaker 4 He's the yeah, Chris Forrester was the guy that snorted all that Coke on that video, and then he's been

Speaker 1 dudes aren't allowed to have fun anymore.

Speaker 4 I think he snorted Coke and then sent the video to like a hooker to impress her. I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 That's impressive.

Speaker 4 Dude's rock moment. But yeah, watch me take this whale to he's been successfully rehabbed to the point where he's now included on the graphic with Bobby Sloick.
And you've got a lot.

Speaker 4 Just the graphic keeps getting bigger. It gets bigger.
It gets bigger all the time. and I hate it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it's haunting for you. I understand because they really just show it all the time.
Yeah. All the time.

Speaker 1 So you take the Packers?

Speaker 4 I am going to take the Niners. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I just, and the Packers, like, the Niners do have the Packers' number.
They've beaten them, I think, three times in the playoffs in the last four or five years. Yeah.
Great.

Speaker 1 They're my Lord and Savior. They are the protector.
They are the Knight's Watch. I need the, like, I won't be nervous.
If the Packers somehow win this game, it's threat level midnight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because then it's like, what the the fuck is happening? And I, Jordan Love is really, really goddamn good. He's going to have to be perfect to win this game.

Speaker 4 He was perfect last week. He was perfect last week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if he does that again, then they could absolutely win this game. I'm not, but I just, I think that the Niners are going to play with a lead.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to play their bully ball, kind of, you know, lean on people.

Speaker 4 If they play with a lead, I think they can win. But their run defense has really good stats this year.
That's only because they always play with a lead. Right.
So teams only get. Aaron Jones is good.

Speaker 4 They get like 50 yards rushing against the Niners because guess what? You're down by like like 17 points in the first quarter. Is Jair Alexander going to play? He's doubtful, I saw.
Oof.

Speaker 4 So we don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, nerd nugget.

Speaker 6 After last week's humongous performance, three touchdowns, Packers running back, Aaron Jones is now the franchise leader in rushing touchdowns in the postseason with seven of them.

Speaker 6 He's also now tied with Devontae Adams with eight total postseason touchdowns and one more on Saturday night would put him at number two in franchise history.

Speaker 4 That's surprising to me that he's their franchise leader with seven, you said?

Speaker 6 Rushing, yeah.

Speaker 4 In rushing rushing touchdowns, considering how many times they've been to the playoffs, but they always had like a revolving Eddie Lacey. Eddie Lacey, China Food.
China food.

Speaker 4 I loved Eddie Lacey. He's the best.

Speaker 1 He was the best. Just didn't.

Speaker 1 I know you want me to lose weight. Not going to lose weight.
Yeah. Oh, and for the Niners.

Speaker 6 Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we couldn't have continued.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 6 This season, 49ers running back, Christian McCaffrey, led the NFL with 1,459 rushing yards.

Speaker 6 He became the first player since 1995 and only the fourth since 1970 to lead the NFL in rushing after every single week of an entire season.

Speaker 4 Start to finish. Did you know that he also finished with 2,023 all-purpose yards? And he's the first player to ever finish with the same number of yards as the year.

Speaker 1 You're joking.

Speaker 4 I swear to God. I'm glad he got it.

Speaker 1 That's an incredible stat.

Speaker 4 Can you believe that shit?

Speaker 1 How did you find that stat?

Speaker 4 All the year. I thought of it.
I just sat down in my head and

Speaker 4 mentally added up every week of his yards because I keep track of that internally. And then I was like, wait, what year is it?

Speaker 1 That might be the stat of the year.

Speaker 4 I think it's stat of the year.

Speaker 1 Stat of the year, PFT. Stat of the year.
Stat of the year.

Speaker 6 The other three running backs to lead after each week, Emmett Smith, Walter Payton, and O.J. Simpson.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay. Merd nugget of the week.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Good company, minus one.

Speaker 1 Okay, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. The Bucs going to the Lions.
I'm nervous for the Lions

Speaker 1 because I was thinking about it narrative-wise. The Lions have had a dream season.
You had all the energy and everything going, beating Stafford. It was like an incredible moment.
Sprinkles came back.

Speaker 1 We found that out on Sunday night.

Speaker 1 And then the Bucs, like, as a franchise, they've obviously won two Super Bowls. No disrespect to the Bucs, but like the Bucs to come in and steal it would just be,

Speaker 1 it would be very sad. It'd be heartbreaking.

Speaker 4 It would be very sad. Especially if the Packers win, and then

Speaker 4 you could have hosted the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 4 I like the quote from Dan Campbell this week. He said, to those fans that had her back, you deserve this.
For the doubters, stay off our train. It's too late for you.
Love that.

Speaker 4 He's not opening up the bandwagon. The danwagon is shut, and it's the train.
He just loves train metaphors.

Speaker 4 He started out off hard knocks with that a couple years ago when it was like Betallica lyrics. Yeah.
Yeah, they're fucking trained right now. I think they're going to roll over the Bucs.

Speaker 4 I think the Bucs pass defense on the road is one of the worst in the league. And the Lions.

Speaker 1 We've got a lot of guys healthier, though, now.

Speaker 4 The Lions' passing offense is one of the best in the league at home. They're going to blitz.
And the moon is right, too. Don't forget that.
Oh, it is. I believe it's right.

Speaker 4 Oh, that makes me feel confident. I believe it's a waxing gibbous this week.
Yeah. And I think the Lions are 3-1 in that type of moon.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for the Lions to beat the Bucs, but I'm nervous that the way the Lions play football with their secondary, it feels like every team can always get back in a game.

Speaker 4 Can I give you an addition that they're making this week that you might not be thinking about? Okay. James Houston.

Speaker 4 James Houston was very good when he was playing last year.

Speaker 4 He's been injured. He's been out.
He's back. I think he's going to be ready to go.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I think that could make a difference because you watch how good their pass rush was last week against Matt Stafford. Yep.
And there was a lot of emotion, definitely, in the building.

Speaker 4 They wanted to hit Matt Stafford around.

Speaker 4 I think getting him back, they're going to get after Baker, who's not the most mobile right now because he's still a little ding-dubbed.

Speaker 1 I have

Speaker 1 a prop stat for everyone out there from my guys at Sports Info Solutions. The Lions defense has allowed

Speaker 1 the third most completions and fourth most yards to the slot receiver position. Okay.
Chris Godwin. Maybe look at him.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 if you're looking for some props.

Speaker 4 I'm always looking for an angle.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Looking for value.
Chris Godwin does lead the Bucs in terms of receptions, yards, targets from the slot.

Speaker 4 I just want Detroit to win this game. I do, too.

Speaker 1 I do, too, very badly.

Speaker 1 There's something that makes me nervous about just like...

Speaker 1 I feel like most Lions games have gone the similar way where it's like they look really good in the first half and then they just kind of hold on. So that's why the six and a half makes me nervous.

Speaker 1 Maybe like I think the Lions are going to win. I don't know about the six and a half.

Speaker 4 Maybe Lions first half. Take that bet.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't hate that.

Speaker 4 Probably a winning bet.

Speaker 1 Probably of a rest advantage for the Lions. They get an extra day and they don't have to travel.
Yeah. Hmm.
Okay. Maybe we do that.
What do you think in Detroit, Grit?

Speaker 5 Detroit.

Speaker 1 Now, are you hopping on the Lions? Because people, Lions fans might be like, hey, isn't this the Cowboys fan? Because then it would maybe blow up.

Speaker 5 No, again,

Speaker 5 you know,

Speaker 5 for the uninformed, my original Cowboys fandom came from a future. My futures this season were the

Speaker 5 Dolphins and the Cowboys of my regular season futures that I have.

Speaker 1 The most fraudulent teams in the world.

Speaker 4 But wait, you rooted for the Cowboys last season?

Speaker 5 Because of the future. That's how this whole thing started, which is how I preface this.

Speaker 1 Because remember, last year he put a future on the Cowboys because he was like, Tom Brady is washed, so the Cowboys are going to beat him.

Speaker 5 Nope, that was not true. I put it long before the playoff matchup.
However,

Speaker 5 it's tough to find really good value

Speaker 5 this late in the playoffs, but my big brain thought I cooked something smart.

Speaker 5 I parlayed two an NFC team with the Celtics win the championship, and I parlayed an AFC team with the Celtics win a championship.

Speaker 1 Oh, those two teams? Spicy.

Speaker 5 Lions, Bills.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 5 that's the matchup I want to see in the Super Bowl just for the vibes.

Speaker 1 That would be an incredible matchup.

Speaker 4 I've been thinking about that. I want both those teams to win somehow, but I don't think I want to see them play each other.

Speaker 1 But again, remember, we would get to dunk on everyone for the group.

Speaker 4 I know. There is that factor to it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, we had the Super Bowl before everyone else. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And Jared. I love Jared.
I'm so happy to see you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to see the Lions keep going.

Speaker 1 I want to talk to Detroit Dawn again. Now, the question is.

Speaker 5 Like, imagine a podcast with

Speaker 5 Ed and Alicia, Detroit Dawn, Superflow.

Speaker 1 And that would be, we wouldn't even have to get guests for Super Bowl. We'd We'd just like to go to the Springfields.

Speaker 1 Score them together. Yeah.
Now, here's something I've been tossing around, and I don't want to get ahead of myself.

Speaker 1 But if the Lions somehow win this game and then they go to San Francisco, so let's assume the Niners win and the Lions win.

Speaker 1 Again, nothing set, just hypothetical. Do you think that we should try to get Detroit Dodd and Superfan here for a stream

Speaker 1 with a dump button? Yeah, with a dump but

Speaker 1 toss it around. around.
I would love to see their reactions.

Speaker 5 We'll be with a delay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, with a delay. Do you think?

Speaker 4 I feel like they probably have a bar that they go to every weekend for the way game.

Speaker 1 No, they strike me as a living room setup, guys. So I wouldn't want to mess with it.
I would offer it, but I would not want to mess with it.

Speaker 5 Also, with those guys, it's like, what's in it for them? I mean, it would be great stream content, but

Speaker 5 how many runs do you get?

Speaker 1 Yeah, true. It actually would be mean because you'd have to, like, yeah, you're right.
You're right.

Speaker 1 I want to be with them if they win. I do, I like watching them lose.
And then they would blame us if they lost.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we might have to maybe send Mincy to do some field reporting

Speaker 5 with them.

Speaker 1 Oh, Mincey Watch.

Speaker 5 You want to get their reactions, but they should be in there. They should be allowed to be

Speaker 5 in their element.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm happy we talked it out. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because if they were on the live stream, chances are, I mean, the 49ers would be favored by quite a bit that weekend.

Speaker 4 So you'd likely to be inviting them to broadcast and live stream their own funeral. Which people love to see.

Speaker 1 Max, he's died about a hundred times.

Speaker 4 Yeah. He's a star.
I love it. Keeps coming back, though.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Who are you rooting for in the playoffs, Max?

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm lions all the way. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Corey has also asked me to not do that?

Speaker 4 No, the opposite.

Speaker 7 He wants me to be like his emotional support.

Speaker 1 Are you going to get in a Honolulu blue jumpsuit?

Speaker 7 No, I said

Speaker 1 I have one for you.

Speaker 5 I thought he's dressing up as a lion.

Speaker 1 I have a jumpsuit you can wear on Sunday.

Speaker 4 I don't like this. I don't like this at all.
Why are we trying to do rooting for the lions?

Speaker 5 I don't think they're team that beat you, like respect. Like, you know, they're the better team.

Speaker 5 I want the team that beat us in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 There's a real fuckload of Lions fans out there that are like, keep Max away from our team. The real thing is.
And Dan Campbell said he doesn't want you. What? Dan Campbell said he doesn't want you.

Speaker 4 He said, stay off our train. It's too late for you.

Speaker 7 But I'm not like a real fan.

Speaker 7 The real thing is, I need the Niners to lose, and there's no way that the Bucs can beat the Niners.

Speaker 1 Why do you need the Niners? Oh, I know why. Why needs the Niners to lose? This is great.

Speaker 1 We need the Niners to win. No, I really need the Niners.
PFT, we need the Niners to lose.

Speaker 4 Why does he need the Niners to lose?

Speaker 1 Because he basically is saying that last year was such a fluke because Brock Purdy got hurt. So if the Niners go to the Super Bowl, it literally eliminates

Speaker 1 it. It eliminates all of the Eagles' success.
And then, except for one little piece, Nick Siriani's still there. We need the Niners to win.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. You shouldn't have said that out loud.

Speaker 5 You know, it'd be great, though.

Speaker 1 Yes. Like,

Speaker 4 if Brock Purdy has a minor injury, right? Let's say something small happens, minor ankle injury, can't play in most of the game, and the 49ers beat the fuck out of the Packers.

Speaker 4 And then next round, they beat the fuck out of whoever, and they go to the Super Bowl without Brock Purdy.

Speaker 1 That would be good for me. Yeah, that'd be good for him.
Because he would be like, we were that good.

Speaker 7 Then they would be like, all right,

Speaker 7 what's your argument last year if they just did it this year?

Speaker 4 I go back to saying you should not root for the Lions.

Speaker 1 No, we need the 49ers to win and win big, and and so that way we can be like

Speaker 1 retroactively. The 49ers should have been in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 Got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stay away.

Speaker 4 Stay far away. Detroit.

Speaker 4 Keep this man far away from your children.

Speaker 1 You just gave me life. I love this.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be Niners Dan.

Speaker 1 Happy I asked. This is great.
I have so much newfound life, love for football. Niners Dan rolling up.
They should have been back-to-back champs. You said.

Speaker 1 We haven't played the interview yet.

Speaker 7 But you said we should be supporting our boys in 2024. You never support your boys.

Speaker 1 We don't want you to be supporting our Flacco.

Speaker 1 Well, Joe Flacco's our boy. You're not our boy.
And also, Max Mitchell. I was rooting for the Eagles last year.
I was rooting for the Eagles last year.

Speaker 4 Spoiler alert, but in the interview, there's a lot of South Philly guys around Flacco that doubt him. We need you to also doubt people to give them motivation.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Have you ever thought about that? Maybe you're just such a powerful force that having you root against somebody gives them so much to overcome.

Speaker 1 I didn't see this angle with the Niners, and now that he said it out loud, it's fucking on.

Speaker 1 The Niners are a wagon.

Speaker 6 And that would be a double win for you because Max,

Speaker 1 the Packers losing. Oh, yeah.
Well, I was already rooting for the Niners, but I'm saying, like, I'm rooting for them to get to the Super Bowl now because I want it to be erased. That's double misery.

Speaker 4 We need to make it so.

Speaker 1 He's going to deal with 49ers fans being like, you never would have beaten us.

Speaker 4 We got to make it so that when the Niners eventually win, they use Max in their post-game play video, like they do with Florio. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And if he doesn't say anything, we can just do the AI.

Speaker 4 We'll do AI Max.

Speaker 7 So you're saying that if the Niners play the Lions in

Speaker 7 the conference championship, you're going to be rooting for the Niners?

Speaker 4 I'm saying that I don't want you rooting for either team.

Speaker 1 In that case, I'll be rooting for whichever team wins.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for the Lions.

Speaker 1 I'll be rooting for whichever team ends up winning. That way,

Speaker 4 we're going to root the over on that game.

Speaker 1 Well, we're going to root for our personal friends to just crush it, have the games of their lives.

Speaker 1 All right, wait, did we do Nerd Nugget?

Speaker 6 Not only have the Buccaneers won a bunch of playoff games since 2020, but Tampa Bay has won a good chunk of them with some breathing room.

Speaker 6 Their plus 64 playoff points margin since 2020 is the best in the NFL.

Speaker 4 And we're not going to talk about who was responsible for that. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, I brought up the Jordan Love that Aaron Rodgers in ATT Stadium, and look what happened.

Speaker 4 The Bucks.

Speaker 4 The Bucs are different. They're different.
I don't hate the Bucs. In fact, I think Baker Mayfield is a great story.
He should be the comeback player of the year this year.

Speaker 4 And I will never root against Baker Mayfield. I think he's

Speaker 1 what?

Speaker 5 I didn't know. Baker was even on.

Speaker 4 I like Baker. I've always liked Baker.

Speaker 1 When he was in Cleveland,

Speaker 4 they pulled a Philly.

Speaker 5 They had a pleasure player of the year. Might be a stretch.

Speaker 4 They pulled a Philly on him. They ran him out of town.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Also, they just won by 23. That's plus 23 with Baker.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that was the Eagles. Last week.
He's a stink.

Speaker 1 Worst team ever.

Speaker 6 For the Lions, combining the regular season and postseason, the most rushing touchdowns a player has had in their first season with the Lions. David Montgomery, 14 this year.

Speaker 6 Barry Sanders, 14 in 1989. One more touchdown for Montgomery, the most ever rushing touchdowns by a lion in their first season.
Most of the great player.

Speaker 1 Great player.

Speaker 4 Nope. I would never let him walk out that door.

Speaker 1 Nope. The run.
Nope.

Speaker 1 All right, last game, Chiefs of Pills.

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Speaker 1 All right, Chiefs at Bills.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'm emotionally ready for this game.

Speaker 4 Oh, I am. I'm very ready for this game.

Speaker 1 I'm very nervous.

Speaker 1 I mean, people have already accused us of being the glazers of Buffalo. I'm rooting for the Bills.
I think the Chiefs are going to win.

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 Taylor is going to the game, I heard. And she better be careful in terms of the game.

Speaker 1 Every time you say that, I'm like, Taylor Luan, and then I remember that, oh, yeah, that singer, whatever her name is, what's yeah, Taylor

Speaker 6 Swift. Oh, I recommended Wignuts to her.
Haven't heard back. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think she's going to have to be careful in Buffalo. Not because they're going to attack her, but because I think that if she's not careful, she could fall in love with somebody in Bill's mafia.

Speaker 4 Big time. She's going to fall in love with alpha energy everywhere.
Pinto Ron. Yeah.
Pinto Ron is going to take her home.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Pinto Ron might be in her box.

Speaker 1 One of those guys who jumps in the pit for the game. Yeah.
They've been doing that.

Speaker 4 Is she going to break a table?

Speaker 1 That'd be sick. That would be sick if they lit her on fire and she broke a table.
She's been so

Speaker 4 uptight, proper little Miss Hollywood for the longest time. She's going to see some real men in Buffalo.
She's going to be like, I didn't know that. I didn't know this was even an option.

Speaker 1 Some beefy men with a buffalo wing hat on.

Speaker 1 Oh, it'd be great.

Speaker 4 If she did go to the Pinto Ron tailgate and she just got brassers with ketchup and mustard. Yes.

Speaker 4 Right to the face. I'm looking out for that.

Speaker 4 Brace Buffalo, Taylor. On the field, something to look out for this weekend.

Speaker 4 The ref is Sean Hockuley. Sean Hockuley loves roughing the passers.
And if you were to think of like two quarterbacks that would get a lot of these calls.

Speaker 1 They both do a good job of selling them. They both do a good job.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're very good at making sure the refs see in roughing the passers. I feel like Sean Hockuley is going to have a legacy day.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm very nervous for this game for the Bills. Their defensive injuries have been insane.

Speaker 1 They're so bad, I've started following this account called Banged Up Bills, which

Speaker 1 it could be like a porn site. Maybe banged up bills.

Speaker 1 They have two linebackers who are limited practice or did not practice, two cornerbacks that are limited practice, did not practice,

Speaker 1 Bernard Dodson, Johnson Benford, and then that doesn't even count Razul Douglas, who I think is going to play, but that feels like a lot.

Speaker 1 They've had a lot of injuries, the cornerback and linebacker position. Josh Allen's going to have to play a superhuman game.

Speaker 1 And then the stat that is a scary stat, Patrick Mahomes as an underdog is 7-3 straight up and 8-1-1

Speaker 1 against the spread in his career.

Speaker 4 I would imagine that most of the games he's been underdogs, it's only by a couple points, though. Yeah.
But yeah.

Speaker 4 Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs. The Chiefs are, again, like Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 4 And to bet against him in the playoffs is very tough to do, but I feel like this is Buffalo's ear.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I want to go to our friend Hank here here because he can probably speak to this.

Speaker 1 If Patrick Mahomes wins this game, doesn't it feel like this is the part of the Brady

Speaker 1 legacy that he's doing where it's like there's some really great quarterbacks that just can't get through Patrick Mahomes?

Speaker 5 Yeah, on the road too. That's been a common, you know, the knock, he can't win on the road, or they don't go on the road.

Speaker 4 He can't win on the road.

Speaker 5 I like that.

Speaker 1 If he doesn't win this game, we will say he can't win on the road.

Speaker 5 But it would be a double whammy.

Speaker 1 Right, because it's like, you know, you think of like Phil Rivers, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, like these guys who probably would have had multiple Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 I mean, Peyton Manning obviously has multiple Super Bowls, one second with the Broncos. Big Ben has two.
Phil Rivers has zero.

Speaker 1 Like, they would have had more if Tom Brady wasn't sitting there in the AFC every single year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, and it feels like that's, this is like the story arc of like all these great quarterbacks that Mahomes is just snatching Super Bowls from them.

Speaker 4 Peyton couldn't until he did. Yeah.
And then he could. I feel like that's what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 I hope, I hope you're, I mean, I'm rooting, I'm going to root my dick off for the Bills,

Speaker 1 but I'm very nervous for this game for the Bills, just because they're defensive injuries.

Speaker 1 You can't really make excuses. A lot of times, it's the team that's healthiest at this time of year.

Speaker 4 You know, who is healthy on the Bills' defense?

Speaker 4 Jordan Poyer, or should I say his actual name, which is DJ Pollo? Oh.

Speaker 4 I can't believe we didn't talk about this when the story came out, like a month ago. Jordan Poirier,

Speaker 4 he went to, I think, Costa Rica about a year ago did ayahuasca and he changed his personality to no longer being Jordan Poirier it's DJ Pollo oh I like that and DJ Pollo apparently while he's tripping on ayahuasca he had an out-of-body experience where he saw his body lecturing himself so like he gave himself a pep talk saying like you don't need alcohol you don't need to doubt yourself all the time

Speaker 4 i think he's sober now he's sober now because dj pollo told jordan poir you don't need all this stuff so he like coached himself up on ayahuasca.

Speaker 1 Do you think DJ Pollo, Pollo?

Speaker 4 DJ Pollo.

Speaker 1 Pollo told Jordan Poyer, like, good job with the wife.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he did. Yeah.
He said, also, you need to change some things in life, but stick with Rachel.

Speaker 1 Rachel Bush is, yeah, you did a good job. Nice work.

Speaker 4 Yeah. You know how they met? That was also in the same story that I read.
What? He was in the NFL, and she liked one of his posts on Instagram. He DM'd her, and she was a freshman in college.

Speaker 4 And they're like, let's hang out. Wham bam.
Love. Thank you, ma'am.

Speaker 1 Love. It's love.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they do have Poyer and

Speaker 1 what's his name? Line. They're two safeties.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's a very good safety.

Speaker 1 Why is this escaping me right now? DeMar Hammond. Micah Hyde.
Micah Hyde, thank you. Hyde and Poyer are healthy.
It's just that middle, and their front four is healthy.

Speaker 1 It's just that middle of the defense is just battered. Yeah.
Battered.

Speaker 1 Need Matt Milano to do like a Willis Reed.

Speaker 4 You should do it.

Speaker 1 Just do it, dude. Just break your legs.
I'd play. Put it back together.
Would you play?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, I'd walk that shit off.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Of the guys I listed, I feel like maybe two will play.
One of them has a concussion, so I feel like concussion.

Speaker 1 I feel like for some reason, the science and concussions, the protocol and coming back from concussions, it becomes lesser amount of days as you get to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was something about science. It was like 10 or 20% in the regular season, but the cold weather sets in.
You know, cold isn't anti-inflammatory, right?

Speaker 4 So your brain in the cold, it actually recovers much quicker. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. All right, Jake.

Speaker 6 Sunday will mark Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes' first ever road playoff game. In six seasons, he's played 13 playoff games at Arrowhead, and he's 11-2.

Speaker 6 The former Texas Tech quarterback has only worn a white jersey one time in his postseason career. It was last year in the Super Bowl against the Eagles.

Speaker 6 They were the road team technically in Super Bowl 55 against the Bucs and lost in last year's Super Bowl as well. So it's rare to see Mahomes in white in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Is he an arrowhead merchant? We'll find out. Many are saying.

Speaker 6 Many are saying. Well, he also won a game in Miami at the Super Bowl and Phoenix.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying, is he an arrowhead merchant? That's what we will be saying about him after this game. That's a fact.

Speaker 6 And then for the Bills, elite protection for Josh Allen. The Bills allowed 24 sacks this season, the fewest in the NFL, and four fewer than the Chiefs who are next on the list.
The 28 sacks allowed by

Speaker 6 the Bills are the fewest by any team since their 2011 team.

Speaker 4 What's the lake doing this weekend?

Speaker 1 Do we know? I think they dumped more snow

Speaker 1 this week, middle of the week. DARPA?

Speaker 1 Who dumped more snow?

Speaker 4 The lake. Okay, the lake did.
The lake did.

Speaker 1 It's a great lake. Yeah, the lake did.

Speaker 1 It's one of the five great lakes that we have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm pretty sure

Speaker 1 we have more snow. Orchard Park weather

Speaker 4 for Sunday, it's going to be a low of 15. So it's going to be football weather.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Can the Chiefs play in the cold? We We don't know.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Late winter's handoff to early spring could mean increasingly above-average temperatures for many.
Ooh, because I just went to weather.com. That's good.
Oh, for us, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's El Niño. We got El Niño.
I didn't know it was El Nino.

Speaker 4 Rocking with El Nino this year.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Warmer than average temperatures develop deeper into the new season. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 El Nino.

Speaker 4 Did we ever find out if that video from last week at Arrowhead was real or fake? The one where they had the bottle of water that instantly froze?

Speaker 1 Uh, I think it might have been real. There was like 10 people that went to the hospital for hypothermia.

Speaker 4 That kind of rocks. Yeah, I hope they had a special wing in the hospital and like red and yellow decked out for them.

Speaker 1 Especially rocks if it was any of the guys with their shirts off. Yeah, that's just like real men of genius shit.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 We're excited for games. You can watch us streaming all weekend.

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Speaker 4 And now here's Joe Flacco.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest, Super Bowl champion and champion of our hearts. It is Joe Flacco, Cleveland Browns quarterback.

Speaker 1 Hopefully Cleveland Browns quarterback next year. We can get into that.
Joe, we have to start though. Apologies.
Happy birthday. Yesterday was your birthday.

Speaker 11 Yes, it was. 39.
You got it. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So we are, PFT and I are both January 1985 guys as well.
Yep. So there we go.
Yeah. So we're turning 39 at the end of the month.
How's 39 feel? I'm scared to get there.

Speaker 11 I wouldn't be. It's all good, man.
You know, the older we get, and, you know, the better it is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, I kind of feel like shit every day. So I'm hoping that once I turn 39, I'll just magically be better.

Speaker 11 Well, eventually, when the older you get, if you feel like shit, you're just supposed to. So, you know, it starts to match up.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 so i was reading actually before you came on um i i saw an article back from 2021 i think about how uh your kids used to give you shit after jets games because you were losing and they'd be like dad you stink you can't play quarterback i'm curious to know were your kids watching the browns this year and did they make up for any of that were they were they a little bit nicer to you after games

Speaker 11 uh you know it's funny when all the good stuff's happening they stay pretty quiet you can just see big smiles on their face but it's not like they're it's not like they're jumping out of their seats to come compliment me that's for sure uh you just have to kind of read their faces and take it for what it is i like that though you got just a group of haters in your house keep you motivated

Speaker 1 listen true true south jersey slash philadelphia uh born kids that's for sure uh just natural born haters yeah all right so so obviously uh the playoffs didn't go your guys way how you feeling though like uh we it was an awesome run we we we we've been a fan of yours for a very long time it was great to see you back out there do you think like you're going to be i want to see you play some more is that has this reinvigorated you where it's like because i know you i think i heard the story you were you were doing interviews to be in media and then next thing you know you're playing in the playoffs honestly man that's the last thing i want to do is be doing interviews to get myself behind the camera.

Speaker 11 So I'm going to try to do this as long as possible and diminish those possibilities as much as I can.

Speaker 11 But yeah, I mean, of course, I think anytime you have

Speaker 11 a two-month,

Speaker 11 you know, period where you're able to play a lot of football and just have a ton of fun doing it.

Speaker 11 I just, how lucky was I to just get on a team that was ready to make a run like that and just be around a bunch of great guys, be back into the locker room.

Speaker 11 I mean, it just reminded me of all of those things kind of come flooding back to you. I knew I wanted to play.
I know I still want to play, but it's just a matter of getting the opportunity to do it.

Speaker 11 You don't know if that's going to come and in what, you know in what ways it's going to uh present itself so definitely um

Speaker 1 definitely reinvigorated to it if that's what you want to say uh to get back out there and do it you made a lot of gms look stupid this year because this was the year where a lot of quarterbacks got hurt and we saw a lot of guys get their shot and then you show up and it's like wait yeah joe flacco's really goddamn good like why why wasn't joe flacco getting the call Yeah, it's, it's, it's tough.

Speaker 11 You know, I think when you're around the league, you see a bunch of things happen and not everything makes sense. Some things do.
It just is what it is.

Speaker 11 You have to be able to keep your head up and go with the flow to a certain extent.

Speaker 11 You know, listen, I honestly, for me, it's tough to think about the calls that I didn't get because I did end up getting one and it ended up being a really good one.

Speaker 11 I really do think, you know, so much about playing quarterback in this league, you know,

Speaker 11 is about handling what you can handle. But at the same time,

Speaker 11 you want to be in a good situation with good football players and good good coaches. And

Speaker 11 I think that's kind of what I was put in. I was lucky enough to be put in that situation.

Speaker 4 What is it exactly about Cleveland that made it such a good fit for you?

Speaker 11 I'll tell you what, man, that city,

Speaker 11 it's interesting.

Speaker 11 I don't know why it ends up being a fit the way it was, but

Speaker 11 it's obvious.

Speaker 11 You can kind of figure out why you fit. in the locker room and with the coaches because you're around those guys every single day.

Speaker 11 And it's just awesome to kind of, you know, make make those new friends and make those relationships.

Speaker 11 But I do think there was something special about just being there and the way that people treated me and the team that, you know, the few weeks that I was there. I definitely felt a lot of love.

Speaker 11 My family did as well.

Speaker 11 I don't want to say people were going out of their way, but it was, you know, and I don't go out of my way to go out.

Speaker 11 I kind of

Speaker 11 went from the facility to my apartment. Every now and then grabbed a cup of coffee, facility, apartment, coffee, you know, and the people were just unbelievable.

Speaker 11 And you could feel the excitement in the city.

Speaker 11 You could just tell that they're hungry for some winning football. And, you know, it was nice to get to that point in the year where you can play some meaningful games.

Speaker 11 But, you know, they're craving some playoff wins and a chance at that Super Bowl. So you could just feel the energy of that in the city.

Speaker 4 Did you feel a little bit weird playing for the Browns, playing for a division rival, the Ravens? Like when you went in the facility the first time, you had to be like,

Speaker 1 Am I a traitor?

Speaker 11 Oh man, what a way to put it. Am I a trader?

Speaker 11 You know what? I think if it was right after the time that I was in Baltimore, it would have been a little bit different, but I had been on a couple different teams at this point.

Speaker 11 I mean, I've been in Denver, I've been in Philly, I've been in New York. I've also seen the business side of this and just how, you know, listen, guys want to play football.

Speaker 11 I'm one of those guys that wants to play football. And if these guys are willing to give me a job, then

Speaker 11 yeah, I want to go in there and test it out.

Speaker 11 And so, I do think there's probably something to it. If I went right from Baltimore to Cleveland and wasn't traded there, maybe I chose to go there.
I could see how that was.

Speaker 11 I mean, having said that, everybody, obviously the first question people ask is, you know, what's it like, man? Did you ever think you'd be in Cleveland after playing there all those years?

Speaker 11 And obviously not, but

Speaker 11 it didn't feel weird being there. It felt like being back in the locker room.

Speaker 11 You know, and for somebody that didn't get to do that for a couple months through training camp in September, October, most of November, it just felt good to be part of a locker room.

Speaker 11 Um, I mean, I guess, in one way, I mean, I really, the Baltimore organization came from there, yeah.

Speaker 11 You know, we, when I was in Baltimore, I mean, people had, you know, obviously, good stories about being in Cleveland. There's people from that organization in the front office that came from there.

Speaker 11 There, Matt Stover was still on the team, he played in Cleveland. I mean, so, in one respect, you can kind of see the connection between the two.

Speaker 11 I know it's not necessarily the greatest thing between the fans, especially in Cleveland and stuff like that. But,

Speaker 11 you know,

Speaker 11 it's kind of cool the way things work out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I want to take it back a little bit because you're an all-time confidence guy. Even this year, like the stories about how, you know, you're out of the league, but you're still practicing.

Speaker 1 You're still, you're going out with your family, throwing balls. You, you know, the, the famous story about betting on yourself the year you win the Super Bowl, free agency, all-time confidence guy.

Speaker 1 But I didn't realize this, but I was reading about it. There was a time when you were in Delaware Delaware where you wanted to quit football, where you're like, maybe I should just play baseball.

Speaker 1 Is that true?

Speaker 11 I always,

Speaker 11 as with every story, there's like truths in this, in the story.

Speaker 11 By the end of my junior year, I mean, no, I didn't want to quit football

Speaker 11 the first year I had at Delaware. But when I was looking at colleges coming out of high school,

Speaker 11 playing baseball at some point was something that I had entertained and at least wanted to leave the option open to. Whether I could have played college baseball or not, who knows?

Speaker 11 I brought it up to my, to my football coach, you know, to Casey Keiller when I was at Delaware, and he pretty quickly shot it down. And I was, and at that point, I was okay with that.

Speaker 11 You know, he loves telling the story about, you know, kind of how, how

Speaker 11 Joe, Joe wanted to play baseball. And Joe, I think you're going to be okay.
Like, just stick with the football thing. And like, you know, he's got a whole story about it, which I love.

Speaker 11 And it's awesome for him to tell. But, but no, I mean, there is things, of course, like, yeah, I did entertain wanting to play baseball, but it had nothing to do with not wanting to play football.

Speaker 11 I mean, obviously, when you transfer from a Division I school to a Division I AA school, FCS school,

Speaker 11 yeah, there's thoughts that go through your head, like, damn, like, can I do this?

Speaker 11 And I think that's where like family members and friends and like, you know, being able to have that support system to keep your confidence going through those kind of like, you know, year and a half, a little bit of tough times that you have.

Speaker 11 And then you kind of come out of that.

Speaker 11 So yeah, like that definitely helped. And there's definitely doubt that creeps in your head.
I mean, shoot, like the last two months, you don't think there was doubt that creeped into my head.

Speaker 11 I mean, it happens all the time. I think that's such a big thing.

Speaker 11 And part of it is just kind of, that's what, you know, is finding that daily routine and all those different things that distract you from like yourself and all those bad thoughts going into your head.

Speaker 11 You don't want that shit, man. You want to go out there and you want to play and you want to think you're the man.
And when you're not doing that, it is tough to think that. Yeah.

Speaker 11 So you have to trick yourself to a certain extent, but more so, you just have to find things that you love to do that distract you from having those thoughts.

Speaker 1 So related off that, you're at Delaware and people are like, hey, you're going to get drafted. At what point were you like, wait, I actually am going to get drafted and pretty high?

Speaker 1 I mean, being a first rounder, like, cause I would imagine the process of transferring, being at, like you said, at one AA, you're thinking like, all right, maybe I'll get drafted like late in the draft and have a shot.

Speaker 1 Did it, was there a moment where you're like, oh, shit, all these people telling me I'm going to get drafted really high? Like, it actually might might happen.

Speaker 11 Yeah, that's that's the thought process is when I go, like, okay, when you come out of high school and when you're a little kid, like, man, I want to be a first-round pick and I want to do this.

Speaker 11 And then you're transferring down a level and you're like, all right, I'm going to have to like, you know, get picked late, maybe if I play well here, maybe I'll be a free agent.

Speaker 11 And like, after seeing how all that works, I mean, that's a tough path, especially even, even if that is, even if that does happen and you do find yourself, you know, in a mini camp or whatever it is, that's a tough path.

Speaker 11 So I went through that process, even on draft day. Like, at that point, I was like, okay, I'm gonna be, I'm pretty confident I'm gonna be drafted here.

Speaker 11 But even coming from a small school, it's like, is it gonna be the first round? Is it gonna be the third or fourth round? When's this gonna be?

Speaker 11 You know, I was very reluctant to like let people come into my house and film that day because I'm like, I don't know when I'm gonna be picked here, guys.

Speaker 11 Like, you could be here for three days, and it's not that bad of a thing because it's not like I'm going somewhere myself.

Speaker 11 You guys are coming into my house, but um, but yeah, I did definitely didn't, you know, wasn't super confident that I was going to be picked in the first round, which I was.

Speaker 11 It could have been third, fourth round still, you know, you never really know.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it ended up being the perfect fit with the Ravens.

Speaker 4 I heard that they loved you because of your arm and your ability to play in adverse weather conditions, which you'd have to do, you know, certainly in that division.

Speaker 4 So, you get to the team, and I don't know if you have a chip on your shoulder or what your motivation is at that point, but when did you first realize, like, yeah, I belong here, I can start in the NFL?

Speaker 11 You know, it's one of those things, like every time you go up the level, there's a little bit of time where you have an, you have, you're, you're, there's uncomfortable, you're uncomfortable.

Speaker 11 And I think that's necessary to get to that next level. You have to be able to deal with that uncomfort and like, you know, not being comfortable.

Speaker 11 And I think it makes you better when you kind of can go through that and get and get to that next level. So by the time you're a fifth year senior or whatever you are, you're the guy in college.

Speaker 11 You're feeling good. You've already gotten past that.
And now you realize, man, I'm going to have to go through that again.

Speaker 11 I'm going to have to walk into a brand new locker room where nobody has any inkling as to how well i can play and maybe i can't you know and and they're probably thinking now this guy probably can't play but let's see and you got to go prove to everybody on your team that you can play um

Speaker 11 and then you have to get the confidence to to

Speaker 11 to kind of at least fake it that you feel like you're that guy in the beginning and then eventually become that guy. So

Speaker 11 my first year, the first offseason and the first training camp, kind of weird. We had had Troy Smith and Kyle Bowler on the team, and I think they were kind of battling out to be the starter.

Speaker 11 And Kyle ended up hurting his shoulder, and Troy ended up coming down with a sickness for like a month of two months. I mean, it was something crazy.

Speaker 11 So kind of by just, you know, happenstance, I end up being the guy. And I think as soon as you become the guy and as soon as, so I remember it was this, we were playing the St.
Louis Rams. back in St.

Speaker 11 Louis, third preseason game. I wasn't supposed to play at all.
Supposed to be Troy and Kyle split down the middle. Kyle gets hurt at the beginning of the week.
And Troy, I forget if he made the trip.

Speaker 11 I think he made the trip, but it was like, he's pretty sick. We don't know if he's going to make it.
And the morning of the game, they told me, Joe, you're the only quarterback.

Speaker 11 You're playing the whole game. So I go from not playing at all.
So you can imagine the mental mindset, the mindset there, to now you're playing the entire game.

Speaker 11 And I think going out there and playing the entire game and getting the confidence that like, okay, it's just football. I can do this.
And doing it well,

Speaker 11 that's when it was like, okay, man, you're the guy.

Speaker 11 And the mindset kind of switched. It was like, I, it was like, I got through that period of,

Speaker 11 you know, the little hardships and trying to prove it to your teammates, trying to prove it to your, yourself, trying to prove it to your coaches that you can do this.

Speaker 11 And now it feels like everybody's starting to believe that you can do it. And it's just up to you to go do it.
And I think that's when it kind of all changed and really became, you know, became real.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 What about meeting Ray Lewis for the first time? Was that intimidating?

Speaker 11 Oh, my God. I tapped him on the shoulder.

Speaker 11 I think I was in the hot tub maybe the first time. And I just remember watching him walk by.
I didn't say shit to him.

Speaker 11 But the first time, I think one of the first times like I tapped him on the shoulder and shook his hand. And it was like the hardest surface that I'd ever touched in my life.

Speaker 11 And it was like, you know,

Speaker 11 you've grown up watching that guy run sideline to sideline and just, you know.

Speaker 11 just be superhuman. It was definitely a surreal moment to be in the same locker room with a guy like that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, those Ravens teams were interesting because you were obviously the leader of the offense, but you're more of a reserve guy. You're more low-key.

Speaker 4 You kind of, you never get too high, never get too low. And Ray is probably the most intense person to ever be creative on planet Earth.

Speaker 4 So like the two leaders in that locker room couldn't be further apart from each other. When Ray would speak, I've noticed this about Ray sometimes.

Speaker 4 When he talks, it doesn't matter sometimes the actual words that he says. It's like the spirit that he's conveying.
You know what he's saying regardless of the words.

Speaker 4 So you just like sit there and nod.

Speaker 11 you just get pumped up just listening to him talk right dude it's incredible everything that he did was just incredible and it's so funny because like i think a lot of people see that the the leaders that were on that team and they know me and they're like

Speaker 11 and they kind of there's there's a little bit of a push for people to try to like get me to be like that and it's like dude like the guys that are

Speaker 11 like Ray Lewis, they respect people for being themselves, I think, you know, so I'm going to be myself. And,

Speaker 11 but I tell people, man, I never liked like coming out of the tunnel, like doing all that stuff, like, like, and not just coming out of the tunnel, like, because

Speaker 11 that, that is cool, walking, running out of a tunnel in an NFL stadium. I don't do anything.
I literally put my head down and run. But when you hear people cheer, it's an awesome feeling.

Speaker 11 I eventually kind of became tired of it. Like, can't we just let the defense come out every single week?

Speaker 11 But, but, like, growing up, like, I could care less to watch guys do different dances and different things like that coming out of the tunnel.

Speaker 11 And then you get to see Ray Lewis come out of the tunnel in person. And I swear to God,

Speaker 11 it might have been a week or two ago, we were in a QB meeting in Cleveland, and I was telling the young guys how bad I felt for them to never get to experience that in person.

Speaker 11 It was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen on a football field. And it had nothing to do with the game.

Speaker 11 It was just him coming out of the tunnel, picking up a piece of sod and doing his thing. I don't even know how much he probably, I wonder how much he really even wanted to do that at the end.

Speaker 11 But everybody else had so much that was riding on it.

Speaker 11 You would look over to the sideline of the team that we were playing and every single person on that sideline and probably all the coaches in the booth were looking towards that tunnel to see him come out.

Speaker 11 Yeah. It was incredible.
And Terrell Suggs and Ed Reed also had awesome. you know, awesome entrances, but his was just, it was, it was just another level.
Yeah, it was iconic.

Speaker 1 It was iconic. All right, I have a dumb question for you.

Speaker 1 You throw an incredible spiral. We love watching you throw the deep ball.
We call it a fuckable spiral. So my question to you is:

Speaker 1 two-part,

Speaker 1 do you ever like throw a ball and you're like, damn, I throw a good spiral? Like, to this day, like, shock yourself, like, man, Joe, you can really throw this fucking pigskin.

Speaker 1 And then the other question is, did you, do you have a moment? Like, I don't know how old you were, but like the first time you threw one, you're like, wow, I'm, I could throw it.

Speaker 11 You know, it's funny because people have been asking me these questions recently. I think everybody at some point has a throw where they were like,

Speaker 11 you know, you come to the sideline and you say to the other quarterbacks, oh man, you know, I don't know. I felt pretty good about that one.

Speaker 11 You know, you try,

Speaker 11 you kind of like, you try to like humbly bring it up in a way that

Speaker 1 they can see right through it.

Speaker 11 They know, they know what you're doing, but you know, it's tough for you to not try to bring it up.

Speaker 11 And then I was just doing it, I was just talking to somebody and they were asking me, you know, like, when, yeah, like, when did you throw?

Speaker 11 When did you realize you could throw? And I remember

Speaker 11 we we were probably i grew up 60 feet from my elementary school and we were in the schoolyard throwing a football me and my dad and it was like an nfl sized football that he kind of thought was like oh man this is a real nfl ball it wasn't a real nfl ball it's fake leather it weighed probably 10 ounces less than a real football weighs and all that but i remember throwing it and like i said i could be i could i think i told the other guy this too i could i could be making this story up completely.

Speaker 11 I was eight years old. I think I was in first grade.
But I threw a couple passes to him. And I just remember the look on his face kind of like,

Speaker 11 ah, all right. That was pretty good, bud.
Like, you know, like, you could tell that, like, obviously, he probably knew I could throw a little bit at that point, like, at least a baseball.

Speaker 11 Like, he knew I could throw a baseball, but to pick up a, you know, a decently sized football and be able to throw it.

Speaker 11 And then I think I just remember seeing a little bit of a look on his face and his reaction and being like, maybe I can throw it. That's pretty good.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. I mean, I was, yeah, your dad got to see the first Joe Flacco throw.

Speaker 1 It was like, that guy, that yeah kid can he can throw yeah he's probably a little upset he's like he's better than i am yeah i mean

Speaker 1 for sure that's the thing of a father now i think there's a little bit of that yeah oh can you have you have your kids ever have your kids done a flacco throw yet where you're like oh i see that uh

Speaker 11 not to propose my oldest son yeah my oldest son is getting better and better at throwing the ball My second son is very natural at throwing the ball. He's obsessed with wide receivers.

Speaker 11 They're all obsessed with wide receivers. they all want to play wide out.
Um, and I'll let them, but my second son for sure is going to have to play quarterback.

Speaker 11 Uh, I think he's just too natural of a thrower.

Speaker 1 So, I'm oh man, another Lionel Flaccos would be awesome, it'd be good for the world, yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, we got the flag football and the Olympics coming up.

Speaker 1 I don't know, man.

Speaker 11 These kids, my kids are growing up a little bit different than I grew up, so I don't know if we want to see what they're all about. That could be trouble for everybody.

Speaker 4 So, um, another hypothesis that we've had, I don't think we're the only ones to point this out, uh, but you at your peak were very, very good at throwing slightly underthrown balls to draw pass interferences.

Speaker 4 And we thought that sometimes you would do it intentionally.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you ever did intentionally, but it was actually a great, it was a strong suit of your offense where even if you had a missed throw, there was still a pretty good chance that you guys were going to get like 30 yards on a PI.

Speaker 4 Was that ever something that you actively thought about?

Speaker 11 You know what? I wish you could think about that because that play works every single time.

Speaker 11 You're watching, you're sitting at home on the couch and you're watching these nfl games and you're like man they got to do something about that rule that's such a shit you know situation for those defensive guys um

Speaker 11 no uh listen when we had tori smith tori could get out there he you know he could run um

Speaker 11 you had to get used to throwing the ball out there to him uh so i think that's part of it and part of it is just

Speaker 11 you know,

Speaker 11 you have to put the ball in the money.

Speaker 11 And every now and then you're a little off and if you put the ball up high and those guys can do a good job of jumping up especially when those guys jump when they jump and leave their feet that's when that's when they really get called listen i wish i was good enough to actually actively think about underthrowing balls because i knew i couldn't make a good enough pass and then next thing you know we get pis i think i think i've played with some guys that run good go balls and the amount that you do it you're gonna have it you're gonna have a bunch of those yeah i would assume your favorite throw was the touchdown to jacoby jones like the the 70-yard touchdown against the Broncos in your Super Bowl run.

Speaker 1 Was that run, though? Like, could you feel like you were kind of in the zone? Because

Speaker 1 that was the best. Joe Flacco, like, betting on himself, and now he's just balling out in the playoffs.

Speaker 11 I think when you're in the middle of the run, you're just trying to take it week by week.

Speaker 11 Obviously, when you, when you, when you win a game like that, I think in the back of your back of your head, there is a little bit of like,

Speaker 11 man, like, I've seen guys win games like that, like teams win games like that, and then they go win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 11 I think we all probably had that, you know, listen, with that team, we had been through so much. We had been to two AFC championship games already.
We lost in New England the year before that.

Speaker 11 Like, we were a confident team that had been through a lot, but I do think that gave us an extra boost.

Speaker 11 Winning that football game against Peyton Manning up in Denver, it gave us that little bit of like, you know, you're not necessarily aware of it, but it just gave us that confidence.

Speaker 11 Because I remember being, you know, we went up to New England after that and where we lost the week, the year before, and

Speaker 11 we beat them. And I don't think anybody was thinking anything of it.
We were like, yeah, we're going up to New England and we're going to win. And obviously, it's easy to say that looking back.

Speaker 11 But even in New Orleans, down the Super Bowl that year, there was just a sense of calm about everybody there. We were having fun, enjoying each other, and we were just ready to go win a football game.

Speaker 11 So yeah, I think that that definitely went a long way.

Speaker 11 It just gave us that extra little something that we probably didn't even

Speaker 11 realize was there.

Speaker 11 Whether it was confidence or whether it was just like, man, we just got to go play. Like, yeah, this is what it's about.
It's just going and playing football and playing as loose as you can. And

Speaker 11 it translates into victories.

Speaker 4 So down in New Orleans, during the Super Bowl, lights go out at halftime. What was that like? How did you guys regroup?

Speaker 4 Were you talking to each other? Were you going over extra things? Or were you just sitting around just waiting for the lights to come back on?

Speaker 11 I think we were mostly sitting around kind of fake stretching, you know, acting like we were stretching and doing active warm-ups just to kind of, you know, act like we were doing doing something.

Speaker 11 But I don't think anybody really knew what to do.

Speaker 11 And we didn't play very well after that.

Speaker 11 So it, you know, it's just one of those things that, you know, who knows how you're supposed to react to that? I'm sure you have to, because we didn't know how long it was going to last either.

Speaker 11 I mean,

Speaker 11 you know, today they turn the lights back on and off with a flick of like, you know, it's not even a second.

Speaker 11 Back then, it's like, all right, how long is it going to take these things to get going? And then do they need to warm up at all? Like, what's the deal here?

Speaker 11 And it was, I think it was not long after halftime either, which, you know, was

Speaker 11 an extra long show at that time of the year. So, um,

Speaker 11 I, it's such a blur. You remember pretty much nothing like how it actually was from that time, but I remember just mostly not doing that much.

Speaker 1 Did you? I know it's a Super Bowl, so there's a lot of pressure, but did you feel any extra pressure knowing your coach had to beat his brother?

Speaker 1 Because, like, that's no, we've had both Harbaughs on, we've had Jim Harbaugh on a bunch, and like you can tell, it still bothers him that he, that, like, his brother beat him.

Speaker 11 You know, I'm an older brother.

Speaker 11 John's the older brother. I think there was just kind of, I think I actually found like a little sense of comfort that fate was on our side.

Speaker 11 Like, you know, the little brother ain't supposed to beat the older brother in the Super Bowl the first time they go together. You know, it's just not how it works out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, because it does still.

Speaker 4 I think that's probably the main reason why Jim is going to come back into the NFL at some point is because he can't live with the fact that his brother has a Super Bowl over him. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I think I saw him say something about after he he won the national championship i think i saw him say something about that he can he can sit at the big boy table now because he's made he's won you know you know he's won a championship um

Speaker 11 listen they're they're both incredible coaches i don't think they need to do anything i think they love to do it and they're really good at it um

Speaker 11 you know john has been in baltimore his whole career but everywhere jim's gone uh

Speaker 11 he's made he's made teams winner he's made that team a winner uh so it's it's pretty special.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what is it about John that makes him such a great coach?

Speaker 1 Because it is watching the NFL, and there's a few teams that have coaches that have been along there for a long time, but there's a lot of teams just revolving door.

Speaker 1 And John Harbaugh is one of those guys that it's just year in and year out. You have a consistently, really good team.

Speaker 1 What is it compared to other coaches that he's doing that gives him that consistency?

Speaker 11 Well, it's his attention to detail. I mean, it's all the little things that

Speaker 11 you get to see a little bit of behind closed doors.

Speaker 11 But it's his attention to detail.

Speaker 11 He wants to have a physical football team. You know, he's been around winning football teams.
So he sees kind of what wins and what wins late in season.

Speaker 11 So what kind of people he needs to put on the roster.

Speaker 11 And it's a great organization. I mean, they have a lot of help.

Speaker 11 There's a lot of help around that building, a lot of people to rely on to make sure the roster's where it should be and capable of winning big football games.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. If you were to use one word to describe your career and your ability as a quarterback, what would that one word be?

Speaker 11 I don't have one, man.

Speaker 1 You're asking the wrong guy.

Speaker 4 Was it start with an E?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Then an L.

Speaker 1 I wasn't even thinking about that, man. Oh, come on.

Speaker 1 You all would be.

Speaker 11 You know what? My four high school buddies, four of my high school buddies came out to the

Speaker 11 Jets game on Thursday night, and one of them had sweatshirts made up with that on it.

Speaker 11 So, and they were wearing them all freaking week, you know. So,

Speaker 1 shout out to Barcelon Sports Store. That's probably what I'm gonna say again myself.

Speaker 11 I'll let everybody else have fun with it.

Speaker 4 You won't even say the E-word. You won't even say Elite.

Speaker 1 Are you serious?

Speaker 1 Are you sick?

Speaker 11 Nine, 10, 11, that's just the word everybody threw around. You know what I mean? It's the word everybody threw around.

Speaker 11 And I was winning a bunch of games in Baltimore, but my stats were never going to like fly off the stat sheet and be like, oh, you know, look at Joe Blasco.

Speaker 11 He threw for 350 yards and three touchdowns, but we were winning games because, and we had a formula with how we won games.

Speaker 11 So I think that always kind of came in that word always came up around me because it was like, okay, he's winning a lot of football games here and he is playing good football, but at the same time, it's not like he's throwing for 350 and four touchdowns every week like some of these other guys.

Speaker 11 So it was one of those things that was like, can we call him that or not? And it then kind of came that thing.

Speaker 1 It became the unanswerable question.

Speaker 4 You are. You're a leader.

Speaker 4 What happened, Joe, was it was like, it was right around that time, you're right. And somebody talked about it on ESPN.
Somebody brought it up one time.

Speaker 4 And then it felt like for the next two years, as they were talking about your contract, you would always be like, well, do you want to pay him? Is he elite?

Speaker 4 It just became like a catchphrase that got attached to you. And then I sought out to answer the unanswerable question.
And going on 13 years here, I still don't know, but I think that you are.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 11 Well, the funny thing is, is now people could like, listen, I have buddies wearing the sweatshirt because they're like, yeah, damn right, he's elite.

Speaker 11 And I got, and I have detractors that are probably out there saying, that are out there probably using it as kind of like one of those, like, kind of like a meme, a joke, you know, they're joking about the fact that I am.

Speaker 11 So it kind of goes both ways.

Speaker 11 But you are. And listen, at the end of the day, it's like, it's, it's a story.
It's somebody, it's something to talk about. And I have a lot of fun with it.

Speaker 11 I'm always laughing. My buddy picked me up from my buddy.

Speaker 11 I was, I was going out to California. I forget what I was doing.

Speaker 11 I was visiting Pitta, Dennis Pitta, for some reason, and he had a couple people from his agency pick me up in the car, and they had some elite meter that they picked me up with with my face on it.

Speaker 11 And they just got

Speaker 1 it. Yeah, I wonder who made that one.
Yeah, PFT made that. But it is an answerable question.
PFT is just putting on real nice. He's being humble because it's, is Joe Flacco elite, PFT?

Speaker 4 He won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 That's all you have to say. That's it.
You're like, I won a Super Bowl. And scene.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
You know, you're elite.

Speaker 4 For us, there's more to it.

Speaker 11 There's more to it than that.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 no, that's it. It's as simple as could be.
You gotta win Super Bowl. Flags fly forever.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So, like, the whole debate about that, for us, it was more about making fun of the people in the media that actually use that word and made, you know, like two years' worth of content about it.

Speaker 4 It's like a meaningless title that you're assigned to a guy. And I heard that you had gotten sick of people saying that to you.
So I felt personally bad.

Speaker 4 I just wanted to reach out and be like, Joe, I'm just, we're just bringing this up all the time because we're making fun of them for using it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, listen, I was never sick sick of it like i said i if people are having fun with it then i'm all for it man um it's just i i probably felt the same way that you guys feel about it like we're still talking about this stupid little like thing that we're just trying to label random guys by it's just funny that you know how long people can talk about something for and and and usually they're using it to shit on you to some level you know what i mean so like but like but but who cares like that is what it is man that that's part of it it's it's what makes it kind of fun yeah it's the quintessential we have nothing to talk about in august let's tear the quarterbacks and call the top tier elite that's that's literally it that's sports media like hey we don't have anything to talk about all right who's elite this year but you did win a super bowl so you are elite yeah people forget that that's a fact that's a fact um so our good friend i think you've seen his work stavros uh big joe flacco guy he's a good friend of ours he's been on the show a bunch uh what do you think about his videos i mean he loves you just a certain way you throw that spiral

Speaker 1 Some about Flacco.

Speaker 11 Yeah, listen, he's awesome.

Speaker 11 I'm going to have to make an effort to get to one of his shows this offseason for sure.

Speaker 11 I just watched his special, but I was watching it by myself.

Speaker 11 I want to go out there

Speaker 11 and actually have the full experience. I mean, but he's unbelievable.
And as you can imagine, everybody in my life sends me every single video that he's ever had.

Speaker 11 So I see them all and they're awesome.

Speaker 4 yeah i mean savros is a huge fan i'm sure that it would make his day yeah probably his life just hearing that you're you want to come to one of his shows you have to go to one yeah you'll go you'll love so good he's a big time uh the you know the baltimore camo pants the ones that ravens fans i you know what so he was he must have been on the sideline at a game recently and um

Speaker 11 Chad Steele, who works in Baltimore, he's in their media.

Speaker 11 He kind of, he's running the show over there, had a picture with him on the sideline and sent it to me. And

Speaker 1 he was wearing wearing the camo pants and he had i think he had the his ed reed jersey on and he was going strong yeah that's that's the most lamar or that's it's the most uh baltimore outfit that you can possibly yeah what do i need to know about the camo pants because i have a future on the ravens and someone sent me the camo pants so i think i'm gonna have to wear them on a live stream if they get to the afc championship game like do i have to fight someone

Speaker 1 i'm not i'm not really sure to be honest with you if they ask him yeah i feel like i do i feel like i got to just get in a little bit of a tussle it is the one thing that ravens fans they're they're known for across the league.

Speaker 4 Like Pittsburgh, yeah, you've got the terrible towel, but you don't have the black, gray, and purple camouflage pants.

Speaker 1 The best camouflage out there.

Speaker 4 It's badass, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so who's the best?

Speaker 1 Who's the best player you ever played with? Or like, could be offense or defense, but guy who like was just different. You watched and was just different.

Speaker 11 Listen, I mean, that's easy. I mean, we just talked about okay, not Ray Lewis.

Speaker 1 Not Ray Lewis, yeah.

Speaker 11 Can I say Ed Reed? Yeah, could you say?

Speaker 1 Would Ed Reed pick you off in practice like all the time?

Speaker 11 I wouldn't say all the time.

Speaker 11 Ed was incredible, man. He was so fun to watch.

Speaker 11 He was the best.

Speaker 11 It was like, you know what? Like, so you grow up playing on the schoolyard or in your backyard or wherever you're playing, and you're playing defense.

Speaker 11 And you're, you know, you're, you know, you got a guy covered, but you're leaving him open by a couple yards just so the quarterback throws the ball to him. And then

Speaker 11 as soon as you see him go throw the ball, you go pick it off, you know, and every kid that can kind of play a little bit, they do that.

Speaker 11 They just have a knack for going and picking the ball off or going and making sure they make the catch. And Ed Reed was doing those things in NFL games.

Speaker 11 You know, I swear to God, he was like leaving the guys just slightly.

Speaker 11 Like he knew that he knew where he could be on the field to get the guy to throw the ball and that he would be able to get there and make the pick.

Speaker 11 And you just expected pick sixes from him every game.

Speaker 11 It became that crazy like i think he sat out the first six games of one year started on the pup list and then he had like he still had eight picks and like who knows how many of those were for touchdowns and you know a team would be driving on you and the next thing you would know he'd go 100 yards on an interception return and they'd be tossing it back and forth to each other the whole way down the field it was

Speaker 11 he was incredible just because he was such a good athlete i always tell this story and i think it's true darren sprolls caught a touchdown pass against us in san diego out of the backfield.

Speaker 11 He kind of just ran a little rail route out of the backfield and went like 80 yards for a touchdown.

Speaker 11 And a couple series later, Ed Reed's like cover two safety on the left side of the field. And Darren Sprolls is coming out of the backfield on the right side of the field.

Speaker 11 Ed's supposed to be way back deep.

Speaker 11 And now, like, I don't exactly know what defense our... our defense was in there, but I'm pretty sure that's what it was.

Speaker 11 And Ed beelines towards Darren Sprolls on the complete other side of the field, nowhere near near where he's supposed to be.

Speaker 11 And in this case, Vincent Jackson ended up catching a touchdown on the beat part of that side of the field. Now, I could be, like I said, I don't know exactly what our defense was playing.

Speaker 11 Maybe that, maybe, maybe I'm making this up to a certain extent of him freestyling back there. But that's what he was, man.
He saw something. He made decisions and he went and did it.

Speaker 11 And I mean, he just such an unbelievable football player.

Speaker 4 There's an all-time clip of Belichick breaking down film with Tom Brady, and they're watching an Ed Reed play where he was baiting the quarterback into doing something because he had put something on film earlier that season.

Speaker 4 So it was like, they were like doing like three layers of deception on each other. I think Belichick called it the best play that he's ever seen out of any player.

Speaker 11 Yeah, he was just so good at naturally doing that stuff.

Speaker 11 He just had that feel. Yeah.

Speaker 4 There was one great, well, you probably won't think that it's a great series, but one of the most memorable series when I think of Joe Flacco, I think of, I believe it was 2015, and it was against the Rams.

Speaker 4 And that's when when you hurt your knee you tore your ACL uh did you tear your MCL too or was it just the ACL yeah the MCL was shot I got that repaired too so at the final drive of that game you played what the last three plays with a torn ACL and MCL to win the game did you ever think about coming out of the game at all or were you like no keep me in we have a we have a field goal drive to finish here so you know i'd hurt my mcl a couple times you know before that and you're always kind of curious man did i just did i just tear my knee you know what did i just do you know

Speaker 11 and

Speaker 11 this time i knew i was like okay that's what a torn knee feels like um you know you could kind of feel the mcl get pushed in and the acl just kind of felt like a million bursts it just felt like my knee blew up so i remember thinking like okay you're not going to be able to do much here like just get up all get up and get off the field like don't stay down So I hop up and I start kind of like hopping on it, just kind of testing it out.

Speaker 11 And I'm as I'm kind of half going to the sideline.

Speaker 11 And I'm like okay it's not that bad it's just you know i i know i tore my knee but it's i can still kind of move and walk and kind of run on it a little bit and we were near field goal range i think i just handed the ball off a couple more times i had just thrown a slant and i was standing in the pocket for like you know the play was way over i i stay i was standing in the pocket kind of just thinking all right the play's over and then boom i got kind of caved in on

Speaker 11 um so i kind of let my guard down a little bit and that's when it got hurt but yeah i I just ended up handing the ball off for a couple more plates.

Speaker 11 And I walked to the sideline and said, guys, I just tore my knee. And I kind of went into the locker room.
And right after we kicked the field goal to win, and that was it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Crazy.
Tough, crazy thing. You know,

Speaker 1 tough ass, tough motherfucker. Are you a tough motherfucker?

Speaker 11 I still probably didn't want my family making fun of me for laying on the field and, you know, and acting like, you know. I don't know if I should say it here, but it's a popular word in our family.

Speaker 11 And I don't want to get in trouble.

Speaker 1 But I don't want to be a pussy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got you. I'll clean you up for you.
You didn't say it. I did.
Our Philly guy, Max, Max, says it all the time.

Speaker 1 We understand that. Yeah, we got a Philly guy who it's like every other word out of his mouth.
So don't worry.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it's like for whatever reason, it was like the one word that when we were like seven years old, we got away with saying in our house.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, my son's a man now.

Speaker 4 I also like the fact that like mild-mannered, very nice Joe Flacco is surrounded by a bunch of haters that'll call him pussies.

Speaker 1 Even your kids tell you that you stink.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're just like, you know what? That's right. It's you against the world, Joe.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So I got a couple last questions.

Speaker 1 one was the famous i alluded to it earlier the bet on yourself here where you win a super bowl was there any moment before that where your agent was like hey joe this is a lot of money like we should probably take this deal and you're like nah i'm about to go win the super bowl like don't you worry

Speaker 11 I think at some point he probably had that thought process, but by the time I got to the end, he was fully, I'll give him credit. He was fully with me.

Speaker 11 You know, he was. And because I think some people were thinking, man, like, what the hell is your agent doing? And I was like, dude, my agent's doing what I'm telling him to do.

Speaker 11 Like, I don't want to, you know, it is what it is. Um, and listen, I people, it's funny the way that it's not funny, it's crazy the way it all worked out.

Speaker 11 I mean, I didn't think it required winning a Super Bowl to get paid. I mean, obviously, today, look, it doesn't.

Speaker 11 You know, if you're the quarterback of the franchise, you get paid. I mean, that just is what it is.
Um,

Speaker 11 uh, in my first four years, we had been to the AFC championship game twice. It was like,

Speaker 11 you know,

Speaker 11 from my standpoint, it was like,

Speaker 11 why would I take that when that's not necessarily what the rate is? It wasn't like a bet on myself thing. It was like, I can't do that.

Speaker 11 And it wasn't about the money.

Speaker 11 It was just about like,

Speaker 11 being respected for the quarterback that I felt like I was.

Speaker 11 And I think,

Speaker 11 you know, I think there is probably an obligation to some extent as a quarterback to get as much as you can for the guys that are coming behind you. But like, you know, ultimately that doesn't matter.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I just didn't, I never really looked at it as betting on myself. I just looked at it.
It was like common sense decision, you know, like this is what I could have or this, or this is what I should get.

Speaker 11 And it wasn't.

Speaker 11 Like I said, it really was a common sense decision. I think most people that felt that feel like they're good at something, if they were presented with that situation, would make the same decision.

Speaker 11 I just felt like it, to me, it just kind of made sense. And it is funny the way it's crazy the way it worked out.

Speaker 11 But that's how that's just kind of what happened. I don't know if it would have changed the outcome in terms of like three years after two years after that, three years after that.

Speaker 11 Who knows what would have happened?

Speaker 1 Yeah, good bet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was one of the best bets ever, like in sports history. There you go.
It really was.

Speaker 11 It was a great bet again. Yeah.

Speaker 11 it's, you know,

Speaker 4 also,

Speaker 11 it's, once again, it's one of those things that people can make a good story and say, hey, Joe Blacko bet on himself. How crazy is that? But, you know, I didn't do it that way.

Speaker 4 Did you ever think about leaving Baltimore after that season? Was that in the equation at all?

Speaker 11 No, no.

Speaker 11 I don't think it ever got that far.

Speaker 11 I didn't want to do that.

Speaker 11 I'm a pretty loyal person and just in terms of general, like, you know, in everything.

Speaker 11 You know, so my mind doesn't go there. I don't really want to go there.

Speaker 11 You know, I love that place, and that city is incredible. Such an unbelievable football town.

Speaker 11 The fact that it took as long as it did to get a football team back there after the Colts left is crazy to me, just because I think if you can go, I think you can go to a game there each and every week and see how special it is.

Speaker 1 I'd imagine you're rooting for them. That's your pick to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 11 I'm not rooting for anybody, man. When you don't, when you're not the guy in it, man, it's like, oh my God,

Speaker 11 who do I root for here?

Speaker 11 Why do I have to root for anybody? I think they are. I mean, look at them.
I mean, they're 13 and 4.

Speaker 11 They're rolling.

Speaker 11 When I looked at them in the beginning of the year,

Speaker 11 when I was watching them in the beginning of the year, they were winning football games and everybody was like, oh, yeah, they're the Ravens.

Speaker 11 They didn't look like they had put it all together yet, to be honest with you. They just, you know, they, yeah, they were scoring points, but like it was, you know,

Speaker 11 it just wasn't.

Speaker 11 I I don't think it was necessarily the best yet, but man, the last

Speaker 11 third of the season or so, they just really seemed to put it together in every little facet of the game. And

Speaker 11 they are looking good. Yeah, they're looking, they're looking like the best right now.
So they're going to be tough to beat for sure.

Speaker 4 All right. So, in terms of a headline grab, you already said that you wanted to keep playing, that you got the confidence back.
And we saw that the arm, the arm's very much still there.

Speaker 4 You can still play.

Speaker 4 Do you want to come back to Cleveland next year?

Speaker 11 Man,

Speaker 11 man, Cleveland was unbelievable.

Speaker 11 I'm definitely open to be back in Cleveland.

Speaker 11 At the same point, like, I don't want to rush to any decisions either.

Speaker 11 I mean, you don't, you don't, I didn't know what the market for QBs was going to look like last spring, and I don't know what it's going to look like this spring.

Speaker 11 So I don't know if I'm going to have options or if I'm going to have zero options. You know,

Speaker 11 I love Cleveland, though. I love the building, the people,

Speaker 11 everything about it.

Speaker 11 I think, you know, it's funny when you go from, you know, when you, when you get to see a few different organizations and then you go to Cleveland and, you know, I don't think people really, you don't think you ever hear too many like, oh man, Cleveland's an awesome organization.

Speaker 11 Man, they've done this well and done that well. But I can't say enough good things about how that organization is being run right now and

Speaker 11 the atmosphere and the building and the way that guys feel like their future is headed. So

Speaker 11 I think it would be a very special place to be

Speaker 11 if I have the opportunity to go back there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So I got one last question. Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 One thing I respected out of you, Joe, is that

Speaker 1 you voiced your displeasure for the Wildcat offense and how stupid it is.

Speaker 1 How stupid did you feel when they made you stand out wide just standing out there?

Speaker 1 Because the Wildcat offense was great for when the one year that the Dolphins did it and it took everyone by surprise. Now teams run it and it's like they never even, there's no pass option.

Speaker 1 It's just a run. So like, well, you're not confusing anyone.
You're just taking the ball out of your quarterback's hands.

Speaker 11 You know, I think when I express my displeasure for it,

Speaker 11 I probably wouldn't do it the same way today. You know,

Speaker 11 I think sometimes, you know, personal things get in the way of, you know, other things. It probably wasn't the most important thing to like express my distaste for it.

Speaker 11 And, you know, like sometimes that's what you do. That's how you react in the moment.
You know, maybe you look back and maybe, ah, maybe that's not how I should have handled it, but it is.

Speaker 11 At the same time, if you're going to do it, just take me off the field. You know, like, like, let's get an actual football player here

Speaker 11 so that we can actually accomplish something for real.

Speaker 11 So, yeah, it is what it is. Like I said, I think at this point, hey, if that's what we want to do, all right.
Is it going to help us win? All right, let's do it.

Speaker 11 At the moment, I probably didn't quite feel that way.

Speaker 11 So, yeah, I said it. I stood with you.

Speaker 1 Like, it never made, you're absolutely right. If you have to run the Wildcat, let your quarterback get off the field and put another wide receiver out there or someone who can block.

Speaker 1 Like, you're going to run it. So, why are you watching? Yeah.
Why are we playing these games? It makes no sense. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 You get a quarterback up in your face that's like trying to jam you at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't need this shit. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah, believe me. That's why when I go out there, I, I, I stay like five yards off the ball.
So there's no chance of me looking like an idiot because they're going to come up and surprise me.

Speaker 11 And like, I'm going to act like a little baby. I'm going to act like a, I'm going to act like somebody just came around the corner and scared me.

Speaker 4 Like, that's the last thing that's gonna happen to me i'm not saying it couldn't happen to me like they could embarrass me big time that's why i don't even leave it up for you know i don't even leave it up in the air for it to happen yeah i have one last last question thank you joe this has been awesome so much fun it's been a long time coming we hope you have we have you back on you're going to be great in media by the way when you decide to do that you're going to be really good yeah i mean you're a good-looking guy yeah you're no offense but you're a good looking guy i don't want to be good i don't i don't want to do that no you are you when you get the when you get the little beard going the little five o'clock shadow you're hot you know you're literally hot there's one year joe got a a makeover he came to camp like looking all different yeah looking like a grown-ass man that was a good year guys got to pump each other up in 2024 like you're a good looking dude it's okay to suck i appreciate it fellas all right so my last last question um at your farthest how far could you throw football

Speaker 11 uh

Speaker 11 right around 75 yards maybe a little bit more a little bit more a little bit less on a given day um But yeah,

Speaker 11 I don't know if that's happening anymore. When I was coming out of college,

Speaker 11 I worked on throwing the ball far just because it was fun.

Speaker 11 Nowadays, I don't, you know, I don't really make it a priority, but I could still go throw it out through the goalpost from the 50-yard line. You know, maybe the maybe the opposite 45.

Speaker 4 So that's awesome.

Speaker 1 Love it. I'd love to do that.
Love watching you throw passes. Well, Joe, thank you, man.
This has been,

Speaker 1 we wanted to have you on for a very long time, and it didn't disappoint at all. So hopefully we get to keep watching you play football.
And like PFT said, love to have you back on anytime. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I love it, fellas. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's wrap it up. Another great week.
That was awesome having Joe Flacco on.

Speaker 4 He's the best. Yeah.
Love Joe.

Speaker 1 He's definitely going to come back on.

Speaker 1 I just was smiling ear to ear having him on.

Speaker 1 Henry, Firefest of the Week. Yes.

Speaker 5 My Fire Fest, I guess,

Speaker 5 not really a Fire Fest. It's not that serious, but I was naive or kind of forgot about how

Speaker 5 crazy some people can be online. Uh-oh.
Uh-huh. I obviously

Speaker 5 years ago, a couple years ago, I was in a public relationship. We had a public breakup.
Dealing with all the kind of crazy people coming out of the woodwork and saying stuff was a lot.

Speaker 5 So I have actively avoided

Speaker 5 putting anything out there for the last three years, keeping the private life private.

Speaker 5 But this, I thought, was the Tiffany thing going to Dallas.

Speaker 5 It was content. It was show content.
It was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Obviously, I like spending time with her.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 5 people online just take it way too far. They say crazy things, and they kind of ruin the fun for everyone.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. What do people say?

Speaker 5 People were just sending egregious messages, saying,

Speaker 1 not, well,

Speaker 5 people were just saying crazy stuff and just kind of taking the fun out of it. That's how I would describe it.

Speaker 4 Should we do a just chill out, man?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, it's more just like it's more,

Speaker 5 I should have known going into it that this was probably going to be the outcome. Yeah.

Speaker 5 But I will definitely be going back to zero dark private life mode.

Speaker 1 Zero Dark Henry? Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 5 Because it's fun. I enjoy it.
And, you know, 99% of the people are fun. They play along.

Speaker 5 It's all good banter. But then there's the 1% of people, people that will DM

Speaker 5 and

Speaker 5 just go way over the top.

Speaker 1 That's really all it is.

Speaker 5 That's the internet. That's all I'll say.
Yeah, right. I was my Firefest, I was naive.
You forgot blinded. I was blinded.

Speaker 1 You forgot the internet is the internet.

Speaker 5 Yeah, especially, you know, guys, it's a little different. Girls, sometimes it gets

Speaker 1 a lot quickly. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 But yeah, that is my Firefest.

Speaker 1 They still had a fun week.

Speaker 5 I had a great week. That is also the other part.
It kind of, you know, they ruined it for the people. They ruined it for for me.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. It's the memories you have.
True. Yeah.
That hole in the wall will always be there.

Speaker 1 What is this saying? Like, the memories, how you keep your memories.

Speaker 4 Take only pictures, leave only footprints.

Speaker 1 Keep all those memories in the spank bank.

Speaker 1 Is that the saying?

Speaker 5 Take only pictures, leave only

Speaker 5 leg imprints. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's good.

Speaker 1 I like that, Hank. And everything else goes in the spank bank.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for you, Hank, to find love.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 4 If that's what you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you don't want it, then don't. I'm rooting for you.
You don't want love.

Speaker 4 I'm rooting for you to find love and not tell anybody about it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, that's unfortunately what will happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. You'll find it.
Sure.

Speaker 1 Hank's single, ladies. I'm not.
I'm not. Press release.
You're not?

Speaker 5 I'm not anything.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're not. We're not talking about that.
No, we're not talking about that. That's right,

Speaker 1 that's right. My bad, my bad, my bad.
Hank's just Hank. Hank is Hank.
and he's a catch.

Speaker 4 100%.

Speaker 5 If I was on the market.

Speaker 1 If he was on the market, and if he's not, then leave him alone. But if he is, then go get some.

Speaker 4 I like this. New mysterious Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The man of mystery.

Speaker 1 I like this. Okay.
Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 Good reminder that the internet is the internet. I'm sorry that that happened to you or Tiff.
Sounds like it might have happened more to Tiff.

Speaker 1 No. Talking naming names.
Yeah. Okay, PFT.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I had a pretty pretty quick, clean week this week.

Speaker 4 I don't have a lot to complain about besides the cold, which continues to affect me in various ways that I never thought possible.

Speaker 4 First, my garage door got frozen shut to the ground, which I didn't think could happen.

Speaker 4 And then it was so cold outside the other day that my car told me it was being broken into.

Speaker 4 And so I just looked at my car, and they were like, warning, do not approach your car. There might be somebody breaking into it.
I just looked outside at my car and I was like, no. It's just a cold.

Speaker 4 It's just really cold. The cold tried to break.
Yeah, Jack Frost broke into the car. So, yeah, besides that, I've had a pretty clean week overall.

Speaker 4 I am developing too much of an obsession with tracking flights online. So that's the one thing that I can do.

Speaker 4 And I love the flight tracking culture that gets built up around, especially college football. It's so good.

Speaker 4 I always say that if you had these college message boards on 9-11, those planes would be grounded immediately because the people that are able to track flights on FlightAware are so fucking good at it.

Speaker 4 So I've been dealing with my flight tracking obsession. And I also downloaded a flight simulator to my phone now,

Speaker 4 which I've been using everywhere that I go. And that's become more of a problem for me because you quickly realize, I'll look up from my phone and be like, well, that was an hour and a half

Speaker 4 of me playing a flight simulator on my phone.

Speaker 1 Nothing better than that.

Speaker 4 And then people will be like, well, what did you accomplish in the last hour and a half of playing this flight simulator on your phone? And I'll be like, well, I got 700 Ace coins.

Speaker 4 They're like, oh, what is an Ace coin? Well, with that many Ace coins, I can buy this many pieces of silver. Oh, with that silver, what do you get? Oh, I get to buy this many pieces of gold.

Speaker 4 So basically, I've installed crypto in my own brain.

Speaker 1 And then you get the pop-up that's like for a flash deal, $49.99, you can get a thousand pieces of silver. I do it with all those phone games, and I just spend like 200 bucks.

Speaker 1 I'm like, what the fuck am I doing?

Speaker 4 Between me and you, I did the flash deal the other day. Yeah, of course.
I was like, I was like, wait, I can get a plane that has a nuclear-tipped rocket on it. I want to fucking nuke.

Speaker 4 I want to nuke somebody.

Speaker 1 Every time I do the Sim Golf or whatever it's called, the

Speaker 1 fuck, what is it? They have all these games. Pixel Pro.
Yeah. Golf.
I've done the Winter Olympics. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Those are the best. You buy new skis.
It only costs you 20 bucks. This is my floppy dunk.

Speaker 4 This is my first in-app purchase of my life on a game. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I wish I

Speaker 1 could.

Speaker 4 I'm going back for more, baby.

Speaker 1 I've probably spent thousands of dollars on in-app purchases. It's been like, yeah, give me this.
Okay. Oh, I can get new clubs.

Speaker 4 Oh, I can throw it faster in this football game.

Speaker 1 Oh, great.

Speaker 4 I'm thinking about going home tonight. I'm going to get an F-16.
I'm going to get an F-22. I'm going to get that nuclear tip missile missile for sure.
And yeah, I'm just going to fill my hanger.

Speaker 4 My online internet hangar, which is not real.

Speaker 1 Don't, little tip, as someone who's done a lot of the in-game purchases, don't buy them all because you want to keep yourself having something you can love.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I want to earn some of this stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because once you buy it all, then you're like, wait, I just spent $100 and now I beat the game.

Speaker 4 I got off to such a good start in this game, too. So I was getting all these airplanes.
I was getting all these upgrades just through my own skill. And I told myself, I'm not going to buy any coins.

Speaker 4 I'm not some fucking loser. I'm a good pilot and I'm going to be able to earn them on my own.

Speaker 4 And then somehow, I don't know if they did this on purpose, but somehow, after you achieve a little bit of initial success, it gets a lot harder to get the next airplanes.

Speaker 4 And then you're like, well, now I got to buy these fucking airplanes. So, yeah, my brain's become part of the algorithm, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's, it happens.
It happens. All right.
My firefest is: I had an all-time, all-time mind fuck on Sunday.

Speaker 1 I took my son to a birthday party for one of his classmates, five years old. The kid was turning.
And I got in my car. I looked at the calendar to see where the birthday party was.

Speaker 1 And I was like, huh, I kind of recognize this. Go to the birthday party, walk in, and it was my apartment that I lived in with four of my friends 16 years ago.
Whoa. My exact apartment.

Speaker 1 I was sitting in my exact apartment from 16 years ago, and it was

Speaker 1 like I was just sitting there watching a magician with my four and a half year old with all his friends. Then we went to their

Speaker 1 playroom. Their playroom was my bedroom from 16 years ago.

Speaker 4 It's your playroom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was my playroom. It was the room that I've, I think I've told the story before.
Did they renovate it? Was it the one that you flooded? No, it was one of my roommates did flood the upstairs.

Speaker 1 He got drunk and fell asleep when he tried to draw a bath for himself and he fell asleep. It was like a fucking inch and a half of water.

Speaker 1 This is the apartment that I've told the story when we tried tried to get one of my buddies to drink an entire bottle of malort before the Super Bowl and then he puked everywhere in the house, including in my bedroom.

Speaker 1 That was the bedroom I was sitting in watching my son play with his friends. And I was just like, how the fuck did I get here?

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's pretty wild.

Speaker 1 It was renovation level. They redid the basement.
It wasn't carpet. It was like, it looked nice.
Like it was, when we got it, it was like me and four of my buddies, and it was like, we trashed it.

Speaker 1 I actually asked the owner because I was like, I used to live here. And they're like, what? They're like, here? I was like, literally right here.

Speaker 1 And they're like, oh, yeah, someone bought the apartment complex like a few years ago and put a bunch of money into it. So it looked way nicer, but I was sitting in my bedroom.

Speaker 5 At least they hadn't seen your direct result. Correct.
Like, you lived here. Correct.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Damn, bitch. You live here?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, 16 years is a long year, long time, but yeah, it was, it was a complete mind fuck just sitting there, like, again, watching a magician with my four and a half-year-old.

Speaker 5 It's like when you go into elementary school and you're like, wait, this is small. Right.
Like, why is this so small?

Speaker 1 It was just like, yeah, and like, even little things like, my son was like, I got to go to the bathroom. I was like, well, I know where it is.

Speaker 1 I lived here.

Speaker 4 You look around the room, you start crying, and they're like, oh, are you watching your son play? No, I'm just thinking about the time I won 10 consecutive games with Pier Pong right over the corner.

Speaker 1 Yes, it was that type of apartment.

Speaker 4 There should be a Carfax for apartments where you can find out the injury reports.

Speaker 4 Yeah, on the tenants that were there previously, so you know exactly what kind of bedroom was this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was some, yeah, we did some shit in there. What do you say?

Speaker 5 I still get a lot of my old name. I get, I have, my mailbox gets two people's mails, different people.
Oh, yeah, some of these things.

Speaker 5 Do I open these? Like, I kind of want to know a little bit about them. I know.
I can kind of gather like open them.

Speaker 1 I have federal crime. Federal crime.

Speaker 5 But it's like they just, it keeps showing up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just

Speaker 6 put it to the front desk. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or just throw it out. That's what I've been doing.
My old name. And they'll figure it, like, the mail, it will find you.

Speaker 1 Like, they'll figure out that they're sending the wrong people, and then they'll find you.

Speaker 4 Do return to sender on it. Yeah.
Send it back to them.

Speaker 7 I always just leave other people's mail in my mailbox. Like, I'd take my mail, and then I put the other mail back in the mailbox.

Speaker 1 So your mailbox just became full?

Speaker 7 I have a pretty big mailbox. Don't get a lot of mail.
I probably check my mail maybe once a month. Same.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mail is so stupid. Those years.
Wow. Packages are what is

Speaker 1 mail. Editing in an envelope? Dumbest thing in the world.

Speaker 4 Send an email. How big is your box, Max? It's big box.

Speaker 1 Box of the year? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Mailbox, M-A-L-E-B-O-X. Oh, yeah.
It's wide.

Speaker 7 It's a wide set box.

Speaker 1 Dominey, throw them in there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 My place in Austin that I used to live at, the last house that I had there, I got a DM from somebody.

Speaker 4 This was like a year and a half, two years ago, with a picture of my mail that was addressed to that house. There's an AWL that lives in my own house.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 My old house in Austin right now. It's a mind fuck.

Speaker 4 It is. It's very weird.

Speaker 6 In school, do you guys remember when you have to sign that it's your textbook and you would see who would have it the year before and you would know them?

Speaker 4 Like, you're like, whoa. I would fuck with people.
I would put like Nolan Ryan. And then a couple years later, wait, Nolan Ryan went here? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's why.

Speaker 6 Just three years before. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 All right. One time I just put your mom

Speaker 1 as my name.

Speaker 4 Just owned everybody that had that textbook later.

Speaker 1 Got him. All right, Chake, finish us off.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so my hotel room last weekend, it reeked of weed.

Speaker 4 Oh, no. It was really bad.

Speaker 1 I just called the cops. I feel so bad.

Speaker 6 No, I went back downstairs and got a new room. That's like...

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, you did? Yeah. Would you sell it really bad?

Speaker 1 weeds a great smell not to live in yeah i kind of like was it your room specifically or like the home

Speaker 4 the room is there a list of previous tenants of that room and hank had just checked out

Speaker 6 hank green for water last week did the front door

Speaker 1 did the uh concierge are like you're a loser they were probably thinking it but like

Speaker 1 i don't care i like the smell of weed i mean it's better than cigarettes cigarettes might be my least

Speaker 4 smell of all time i'd have your back if you moved cigarettes but weeds like kind of get like a contact eye yeah like pfc you invited us us to the uh sigs inside bar and i just i couldn't do it yeah max and i had a great time yeah probably smoked like 40 cigarettes that night yeah i would die sorry mom

Speaker 4 but it's only because we're inside like we have to celebrate that day

Speaker 4 and your lungs regenerate like we're not gonna smoke out that is the cold air cleans it out

Speaker 4 actually i smoked cigarettes to quit vaping and it actually worked it's a great way to quit like a jewel yeah i smoke analog cigarettes

Speaker 1 uh okay what do you think are the best smoke smells?

Speaker 4 I would put pipes as number one.

Speaker 1 Pipe number one. We had a pipe phase.

Speaker 1 I had a pipe phase in college. We were smoking pipes in my apartment.
That smelled bad.

Speaker 4 I would say pipes one, weed two,

Speaker 4 sigs three, cigar smell.

Speaker 1 Cigars are terrible.

Speaker 6 Don't those jewel pens have like cotton candy?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, but that smoke doesn't linger. It dissipates.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like vape.

Speaker 1 Not anymore, actually. Cigars are really bad.

Speaker 4 Thanks to Obama. They banned all the flavors.
Jewel got fucked.

Speaker 4 Great job, Barack.

Speaker 6 I have a chocolate factory right outside my apartment.

Speaker 1 Oh, I smell that. Yeah, it smells so good.

Speaker 7 Memes, I told Memes that he was dropping me off the other day, and he was like, what do you mean? I'm like, literally, they're just making chocolate. If you put your window down, you can smell it.

Speaker 7 And you've been talking about it every day since.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you can smell it like far away, too, sometimes, like in the summer.

Speaker 4 Max, did that have anything to do with why you chose that apartment? I mean,

Speaker 7 that's the biggest difference from New York. Like, that was the biggest difference I realized from New York to here was that, like, when I walked outside of my apartment in New York, it was shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I walked out.

Speaker 1 Now you live in Willy Wonka, yeah.

Speaker 4 It'd be funny if everybody in Max's apartment were uh, if they were big boys, that'll that'll happen.

Speaker 1 Listen, no, Max and I are lifting, yeah, we're crushing it. I just said big, I said big, like powerful.
We're on week three of our lifting regimen.

Speaker 5 We're fucking Max lifted today, yeah.

Speaker 4 I lifted a couple of days.

Speaker 1 I saw you, I started lifting, you were taking weight off, though, when Max was done.

Speaker 5 You guys are strong.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 5 I don't, I don't judge.

Speaker 4 Hank, we lifted before you went down to Texas. Yeah, we did.
Get a big pump in.

Speaker 7 We sure did.

Speaker 1 Jim. All right.

Speaker 1 Eight. 40.
Number

Speaker 4 false stars.

Speaker 1 Anyone want to take eight?

Speaker 5 40. 18.

Speaker 1 I'll take 71. 20.

Speaker 1 20.

Speaker 1 Memes?

Speaker 1 3. Pug?

Speaker 6 99. Pug.

Speaker 1 8. You get 8.

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Speaker 4 Love you guys

Speaker 4 talking away

Speaker 4 Though I don't know what I'm to say I'm saying anyway

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Speaker 4 I'll be coming for your love of day for your love of day

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Speaker 4 It's not better to be safe, it's not better to be safe, it's all better to be be safe It's not better to be safe

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