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We're also going to talk the divisional round. We got four great football games.
We're going to talk about some coaching news.

We got coaches that we thought were going to be fired that are not fired.

And some other coaches still looking for a job.

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Today is Friday, January 19th. And we have the divisional round, boys.
Before we do that, though, we should talk a little coaching news. Yeah.
Because Mike McCarthy is staying. Mike Tomlin is staying.
Nick Sirianni is potentially staying. Probably staying.
Probably, maybe. And we don't know what's going to happen by tomorrow, but I am, again, tracking Arthur Blank's private jet.
It's landing in Boston, Massachusetts right now. Oh.
Belichick, Falcons, collisioncons collision course wow i think it's happening

it is happening it might have already happened by the time this comes out i i would say you want to break the news hank i'm gonna say it no oh okay could have been the first give it to leroy yeah r.i.p um i mean blake cheese r.i.p yeah uh mike mccarthy though stay just kill my dog no i just oh just... Oh, yeah, you killed Blake.
I was remembering... What are you, Max? Yeah, I guess I might have.
My bad. Let's go team by team, though.
Mike McCarthy is staying. Yes.
And you actually saw a bunch of people. Greg Olson, turns out, he was right, that someone wanted Mike McCarthy.
It just happened to be Jerry Jones still wanted Mike McCarthy. Jerry Jones fell all over himself.

Fell all over himself.

To rehire Mike McCarthy for another year.

Yes.

And it's not out of this world to have a coach in Dallas

going into their last year because Jason Garrett did it.

Yep.

What happened with him afterwards?

He got fired.

He's on NBC.

He's torturing us.

He's on the cock.

So Mike McCarthy not going to be fired this year.

As a Commanders fan, I said that it makes me very happy

that Mike's coming back, and I know that they absolutely

demolished the Commanders in the regular season.

I don't know. I'm not going to be fired this year.
As a Commanders fan, I said that it makes me very happy that Mike's coming back,

and I know that they absolutely demolished the Commanders in the regular season.

I know that Mike McCarthy is a very good regular season coach,

but when you play against really good teams in the playoffs,

you're going to have to win three games, maybe four games, to win a Super Bowl.

And every game, even the games that the Cowboys win have those small moments in them where you're like, if they're playing against better team that gets taken advantage of so all i'm saying is much like you with aaron rogers when the cowboys lose that's my super bowl yeah which i really truly enjoy and i'm glad that i'm going to get to enjoy that for the next year yeah so mike mccarthy is a good coach in the relative term that like what three straight years 12 and five he obviously has a super bowl people were doing the resume thing yesterday where it's like yeah why wouldn't you fire Mike McCarthy like he you

know or you you got to keep a guy like that around because he's he's done good things in Dallas

obviously they haven't gone deep in the playoffs people were also pointing out like look at Andy

Reed before they started winning Super Bowls in Kansas City where it's like 12 and 4 10 and 6 11

and 5 everyone said he was a choke artist the only issue with that is Patrick Mahomes showed up

Thank you. They started winning Super Bowls in Kansas City where it's like 12-4, 10-6, 11-5.
Everyone said he was a choke artist. The only issue with that is Patrick Mahomes showed up.
I don't think Patrick Mahomes is showing up in Dallas. You have Dak.
Yeah. Dak is actually kind of like McNabb in that sense.
Right. Where he's like a good quarterback.
Right. But it's like these two guys together in the pressure situations, will it falter? So initially I was like, that's stupid.
They're bringing Mike McCarthy back. And I don't have the smartest brain and I can be swayed very easily.
And I was. Jake Ferguson tweeting out the video of Mike McCarthy dancing with the big chain to 50 Cent and many men.
I was like, yep, okay, Mike McCarthy, this is a good rehire. Yeah it's that was like that was a video is like these guys obviously love them and again if you put if you put pretty much any video with 50 cent many men i'm gonna be like damn that was badass yeah it is it gets your blood going right and you see a player you watch it yeah i have seen that yeah before and it was cool it is cool it's a cool cool look for mike uh if you're mike mccarthy it's good that you're coming back for another year it's good to have another job good to not be fired also the narrative every single week with mike mccarthy is going to be for another year how fired is this guy yeah he's been fired for like two and a half years already well he could also just pick up some more hobbies and become even the busier cat in texas he's already the busiest yeah start learning how to doik's Cube.
Yeah. Start learning card tricks.
I'm happy because it gives us one more chance to bet against Mike McCarthy in the playoffs. Yeah, it's good.
So just put a reminder in Jake. We'll just do that, and we'll be happy.
And then next year, he'll probably be fired. And that doesn't diminish that he's a pretty good coach, but I just don't trust everything.
I'm not sure I like this new kinder gentler jerry jones yeah like being so accepting of although although he kept jason garrett around for a very long time sometimes i think he likes to do that to torture them though right it's like working for me is more of a punishment than me firing you yeah how long was jason garrett the coach for the cowboys because you think of jerry jones you think of the like jimmy we got to move on. Like I'm the boss.
Like what, six years? I think it was way more than that. It was one, two, 11 through 19.
10 years. 10 years.
10 years. So that's 20 software updates.
Eight years too many. Yeah.
Like that. So he kind of is.
Interim in 2010 and then 11 through 19. Nine years.
Yeah. How do you feel, Hank, as a Cowboys fan? I don't know how people can support this team.
I don't know how you can have the regular seasons they've had and the playoff performances they've had capped off by one of the stinkiest stinkers ever thrown in the history of football. That was as bad a performance as you can imagine.
Everyone was leaving you know with maybe 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter like maybe even before it was never close and it's just like how do you root for them in the regular season knowing that like you have to win in the playoffs and regular season success means nothing it doesn't translate dac is fucking horrible like mike mccarthy they were showing the videos where he was consoling Judy Judy on or not Judy. CeeDee Lamb.
CeeDee Lamb on the sideline like in the first quarter as if there was major tension between him and Dak. I said if they keep him around, I'm done with the Cowboys.
I'm done with the Cowboys. Wow.
So you lost the fan today. You're asking like, how can they keep this this guy around if he's not about what Cowboys football should be about,

which is winning playoff games.

Jason Garrett was 2-3 in the playoffs.

And before that, they had a playoff game. One of those was Tony's fault, though.

Before that, they hadn't won a playoff game in a long-ass time.

So the Cowboys, they don't win playoff games.

They get to the playoffs.

Yeah, it's in their DNA at this point.

It's not the 90s anymore.

Yeah.

But there's so many good coaches.

How can you, as an owner, watch that performance and be like, we're right there? Maybe he's just, yeah, maybe Jerry's just like getting old and he's, you get older, you just don't want to have to deal with like interviewing new people and talking, learning someone's new name. There's so many coaches out there.
He might be getting too much perspective on the world. I was.
As you get older, you're like, you start to realize what's important. That's interpersonal relationships, friendships, what you're going to leave behind as your legacy.
I think Jerry Jones is now entering that stage where he doesn't want to make any new enemies. It is pretty shocking.
If you had asked us on Tuesday after the divisional round or the wildcard round was over, would the Steelers, Eagles and Cowboys all keep their coaches? No chance we just said yes. One of the three would have been gone.
Yeah, especially considering this is the best free agent coaching class maybe ever. Yeah.
So Mike McCarthy stays in Dallas. Mike Tomlin's staying in Pittsburgh.
He said he's going to bring in quarterback competition. He's going to change some things.
They're going to get a new offensive coordinator. He's also – Mike Tomlin, I feel like the way the Steelers operate, he was on the hot seat for like one single day because now he's back and he probably will sign an extension this summer.
Yeah, and it turns out that Mike Tomlin was just upset about the loss. Right.
So when he was asked the question, he want to address that that is kind of mike tomlin in a nutshell yeah it's like okay that's not important so i'm not even going to address it i'm going to walk away uh but yeah he's gonna be back probably probably stay the head coach for another 10 years in pittsburgh i imagine although variable would have been nice i think we both wanted variable to get that job if it was open um but yeah tomlin is he's proven that he can he can do a lot of good work in Pittsburgh maybe without a superstar quarterback which is hard to do yeah and and we also do have to take a step back because we root for bad franchises the coaching carousel the revolving door is always going it probably is correct for some of these franchises specifically the Steelers where it's yeah, they have a way and they're going to keep doing their way. And over time it has worked.
And like, yeah, our reaction is different than how the Steelers operate, which is probably a good thing because we're very dumb. Yeah.
When something goes bad with our teams, it never gets fixed. No, the instant fix button is fire the coach.
Yeah. There's no chance that you can have some of these guys that we've had over the years and be like, let's give them another year and see how they do.
It's like if things go bad, it's not getting any better. Right, and we're talking about three playoff teams.
Yeah, so it might get better in Pittsburgh. It might get better in Dallas.
It might get better in Philadelphia. Maybe.
Maybe. So that's the last one.
Nick Sirianni possibly staying. Max? There's no report one way or the other right now.
Well, the report was that Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman basically tasked Nick Sirianni with coming to them with a list of coordinators that he thinks are good for the team. And so the initial thought is, well, if a coach is looking for coordinators he's probably kept his job yeah then the report came out well this same exact thing happened with Doug Peterson when he got fired Jeff uh Jeff Laurie and Howie Rosen said come to us with a list they were it was not an adequate list for them and they fired Doug Peterson so that is what Max is hoping for that Nick Sirianni can't get anyone to pick up the phone for yeah basically Laurie is asking Nick Sirianni like bring me a list a presentation of guys that you think will make you suck less as a head coach I actually think it's something different I think it's give me a list of guys who still think that you're good because if you're going to be an offensive or defensive coordinator for the eagles you're tying your your future to nick sirianni so it's a kind of a fucked up test where it's like how good of the coaches think that you're still good you know it's it's genius can you get anybody would the entire coaching staff be better with you or would it be better with a new guy that's bringing in his guy right like if if Nick Ciarani comes to to the owner and and Harry Roseman with the names like Luke Getzey and Matt Patricia yeah and they're like wait what isn't that showing that you don't have that much faith in your head coach though saying like we don't we don't really trust you show us the guys that you can bring in that will fix you yeah but I I really do think it's like how many people in the nfl still think that you're good that's the list because if if nick sirianni calls you up you're making the calculation like is this guy dead already should i should i hitch my wagon to him i like this move this is actually kind of a genius move it's going to be a list of guys who think that nick sirianni is still a good coach that's all it is well I mean it's also a roster like what do you mean like Kurt like Cliff Kingsbury is looking at the Bears because Caleb Williams is coming in right right there's coordinators out there that could look at that Eagles offense and be like of course I would love to I would love this job because of that personnel but it's always a nerve-wracking thing if you're a coordinator to be like, am I stepping into a job that I will be gone from in a year, no matter what happens? Yeah, yes.
But I think that has just as much to do with the personnel than it does Nick Sirianni. You know what I would do if I were Nick Sirianni? I would put down a list of guys, like the top guys out there.
Yeah. Like Ben Johnson told me that he would leave the Lions to come here as an offense coordinator.
I was wondering.

And then hope that they don't call those references.

Like, can he go to, like, those people have to be in to come if he comes with

that name.

Ideally, you would want guys that are currently employed.

No, it has to be a list of names that Nick Cerrone's actually talked to to

say that they would be interested in coming.

I don't want to hear interested.

Like, if he goes to Lori and puts those names down, he's not allowed to be like, all right, you keep your job, and then him to go back to Lori and be like, oh, never mind, doesn't want to come anymore. It would have to be guys that are like quarterbacks coaches because I don't think you could talk to an offensive coordinator that's currently under contract play callers yeah like come play callers because brian johnson's a good quarterback coach not a good play caller just get big dom to run the defense so do you think that he's going to get fired if i had a gun to my head i would say no i don't think he's brutal for you but i don't think it's that for you that for you.
Especially because you said you weren't going to watch any easy. Is he a must-fire or can't-keep? Oh, good question, Hank.
Wait. There's too many questions.
Must-fire or can't-keep? I thought I would say... Let's see how the cards play out.
Must-fire or can't-keep? It's a very important question that you have to answer. Yes, it is.
Must fire or can't keep? Which one is it? Can't keep. Oh, that's bad for you.
That's the ownership. Yeah.
But you also, if you can't keep someone, you could also be like, maybe I can keep him. If you must fire, you don't really change from must fire.
Yeah. So you should have said must fire.
You answered that incorrectly. No, no, no, no, no.
Because obviously I'm going to... Like, if he comes with some exciting coordinator names...
Oh, no, he's back in. If he comes with some exciting coordinator names, I could be...
Coordinator merchant. Yeah, he needs to find, like, the best coordinators.
I just think he's so corny. Right.
But then again, so if this is office space and you're sitting him down in the office, you say, what would you say it is you do here all day Does he just like leaf through motivational booklets No he probably would say What do you think Rocky did all day He ran up the steps I want there to be a press conference He's going to bring a frozen meat truck Into training camp next year Beat the fuck out of these ribs Here's a log Pretend we're fighting the russians the the vets seemed like they they backed him so i mean who's that jalen hurts jalen hurts has not really but like fletcher cox like rider who's the most important person going forward on the eagles jalen hurts for sure yeah fletcher cox i think he said that's a clown question bro right he pulled the Harper on him? Something like that. Yeah.
Jason Kelsey also was very- Well, he's not going to be on the team anymore. He might be.
He doesn't really care. He'll probably be in the front office or something.
He'll be attached to the team. He pulled a great move yesterday.
Yeah, if you guys were going through McDonald's drive-thru. I would take Kelsey as my head coach.
He gave an autographed jersey to his favorite drive-thru worker? I love that. How mad would you guys be if you were retiring and didn't get to reveal it on the podcast? Well, he did.
He said he's not retiring yet. He hasn't made the decision.
But that was a... Yeah.
It's because he wants to do it on the show. Yeah, on the podcast.
We would never save something for the podcast. I respect that.
I respect that game. Oh, of course.
Yeah. That's a day one podcast guy move.
Yeah. It's still upsetting.
You wait to announce your girlfriend on the podcast. You break up with your coach on the podcast.
That sort of thing. Yeah.
That would be getting broken up with if Nick Sirianni made Jason Kelsey retire. It's just basically saying I don't want to play for this guy anymore.
I want Jason Kelsey to be the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. Oh, okay.
Yeah. I like that.
Leader of men. Leader of men.
Leader of men. Pete Briscoe has completely changed Max's outlook.
He's just been walking around being like, we need a leader of men. I love that you had the wrongest guy on the show this year, and you're like, yeah, you know what? He's right about that.
No, something about those words. I'm like, you know what? Is it the leader? Leader of men.
Or is it the men that you like? I like the men. Nick Ciarani might actually be a perfect college coach.

His corny shit would work.

Yeah.

Because those guys can leave after a couple years.

Yeah.

Oh, Max is down bad.

Okay.

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Yeah, I said that I was going to stop doubting C.J. Stroud.
Yeah. I'm not going to doubt C.J.
Stroud until he gives me a reason to. So I think the Ravens, I don't know.
I don't want to say that they're in trouble. But they've had two weeks off, right? So is this too much rest? Because week 18, they didn't play any of their starters.
And then last week, obviously, the bye week. John Harbaugh, though, remember he's been biohacking with the trip to London.
Maybe he biohacked this week. I don't know how.
Biohacked the two weeks in a row. I don't know how he would do it, but maybe he did it.
Yeah, so I have no reason to doubt CJ Stroud, so I'm not going to. We've got D'Amico Ryan, and there was a clip of him.
Did you see the clip from the Browns game where he was talking to his linebacker? And he was saying, hey, the quarterback, when he moves to this side, slide right in front of his receiver. And then there was a clip that they edited in of D'Amico back when he played, undercutting his guy against Joe Flacco.
And then his linebacker steps in, picks six to the house i'm not going to doubt domico i'm not going to doubt cj stroud i still the ravens are a better team all around but i don't know the the texans have lightning in a bottle right now and uh i i kind of i'm leaning towards them okay at least against the spread i am going to doubt them okay well i'm not going to doubt cj stroudoud, but I'm going to more stamp an approval of the Baltimore Ravens and the style of football they play and their entire team. Because it's not – you know, Lamar has receivers now.
Mark Andrews is going to be back. Dalvin Cook, watch out, playoff Dalvin.
Yeah, playoff D is back. Playoff D.
Is Mark Andrews actually playing? I know he practiced. He's questionable.
Okay. But likely he's been great.
So, you know, it might be we're going to wait another week with Mark Andrews. The Ravens' defense, though, is what I'm betting on in this game.
And I'll read you a quote from Patrick Queen, and I'll then tell the context behind it. He said, we play a brand of football that people don't want to play.
Everybody wants to be out here being cute, playing basketball and grass and stuff, and we are not with all that. You can do all that stuff.
We're just going to hit you in the mouth every play, honestly. We couldn't care less about all the pretty stuff you do, gimmick stuff.
You'll have to line up and play football. You still have to get touched, so that's our mindset.
That's how we want to come out and just hit people in the mouth. So that's Patrick Queen's quote.
When was that Patrick Queen quote from? After the 49ers game. The Ravens played the 49ers, kicked the shit out of them.
The Ravens played the Dolphins, kicked the shit out of them. Bobby Slowick, where did he come from? San Fran.
Kyle Shanahan. Yeah.
I think the Ravens' defense is going to kick the shit out of them. Do you think that – I would not say that the Texans' offense is candy ass or gimmicky.
It's not, but there's some concepts that are the same, and I think that the Ravens' defense, what they can do to confuse people, they move safeties around, they get pressure with four, they get pressure with blitzes. I think the Ravens' defense, this is a Ravens' defense statement game.
Take Lamar out of it, I think there's a Ravens' defense statement game that this is a different defense than what the Texans have been playing. And, yeah, the Browns had a very good defense this year, but they sucked on Saturday, last Saturday.
And they weren't great on the road. But the string of defenses the Texans have played, I think this is a totally different piece.
You know who's rooting the hardest for the Texans this weekend? The S2 cognition test people. Yes.
The ones that said that C.J. Stroud couldn yes i'll quickly flip back to that i'll be like i should have trusted the science yeah if the texans fail on the road but yeah something about cj stroud i don't know he's wise beyond his years he's incredible the defense for the ravens is concerning it's a really fucking good defense and they do hit you in the mouth but i don't think that the texans offense is gimmicky i don't think that it's i don't think it's based on tricks they don't't run that many.
No, they don't. But I just think that this defense is going to – I think they're going to swarm them.
I think they're going to confuse them. I think they're going to do a lot of stuff that, like, again, this is – like, the Texans have been incredible, and C.J.
Stroud is incredible. I've said many times – I mean, best rookie season ever, and there's, like, four quarterbacks I'd rather have over him right this second.
I just this ravens defense statement statement game for the ravens defense maybe bad weather statement game weather forecast for this weekend in baltimore uh 27 as the high and it's going to be winds of up to 17 miles per hour run the football lamar's gonna run a lot also might fuck with the texans kicking game because everyone always talks about three or not three rivers but heinz field whatever it's called now acriture being the hardest place to kick baltimore very very hard to kick to unless you kick there all the time yeah yeah um anyone else like anything in this game lamar over russian i like that i like uh odell over 50 receiving yards it's paying out two to one because they're stingley's going to probably match up against a flowers and last week the browns i think they uh they stayed away from uh their number one receiver cooper i think 80 of the time so i like i like the balls going to odell this weekend yeah uh all right do you have nerd nuggets i do great for the houston texans last week quarterback cj stroud passed justin herbert for the second most passingJ. Stroud passed Justin Herbert for the second most passing yards ever by a rookie, including postseason.
Stroud now only trails Andrew Luck for the record and can break it by throwing for 303 yards on Saturday. Meanwhile, for the Ravens, nerd nugget of the week.
Ravens head coach John Harbaugh has a chance to lead the Ravens to their fourth AFC championship game during his tenure, all of which came between 2008 and 2012. John and his brother Jim, formerly of the 49ers, are the only head coaches in NFL history to advance to three conference title games in their first five years as NFL head coaches.
That's pretty cool. Good for the Harbaugh's.

Jim did it in his first three. I have a bird nugget.
Okay. A bird nugget for the Ravens of the week.
Did you know that Ravens can mimic the sound of toilet flushing? Ooh. Yeah.
I didn't know that. That's pretty cool.
I almost want to get a Raven and just have it do the toilet flush. If they lose, that's an easy layup joke.
It is, yeah. Or if Lamar has to sprint to the the bathroom Also a highly respected Mind that I I take a lot of info from Said that Playing in a dome Versus playing outside Different game Different game 100% That was Benjamin Mintz Yep He told me that It's fact It's fact It is fact There was I think they asked Todd Bowles that This weekend Yeah About going up to Detroit They're like How how are you preparing for the weather? He's like, well, it's inside.
And then, of course, like every story that ever happens online, then we had a bunch of people being like, it's fucked up. People are making fun of this reporter.
She probably isn't covering this beat. Just shut up.
It's a fucking, it's a funny clip. She thought the lines were playing outside.
Leave it. That's it.
I think we can laugh about that. Yeah, just chill.
It's okay. We can just have a moment and then move on.
No one's crucifying her. No one's saying anything bad.
It was a funny moment. Todd Bowles handled it well.
Okay, next game. Packers at 49ers.
I'm also going to take the 49ers in this game. I feel like we fall for it every year where it's like the one seed you don't see play and then then some team has a big upset because they're a lower seed, and you're like, well, they just won a playoff game.
They're so hot. They're pretty good.
Niners are also pretty good. So the Packers game against the Cowboys was very similar to the 49ers game also against the Cowboys.
So you think that they might match up. I think the 49ers defense is much, much better than the Cowboys in terms of the dudes that they have.
Yep. Minus Micah Parsons, obviously, and Cowboys, they've got some good cornerbacks, but they're getting Eric Armstead back.
Yep. So you've got Chase Young, you've got Joey Bosa, and you've got Eric Armstead rushing the passer.
I think that's going to be a nightmare for Green Bay. I also think the bigger difference between the Cowboys and the 49ers when playing against the Packers is the Cowboys couldn't run the ball all year.
And, like, they just couldn't. Tony Pollard had a disappointing year.
They were never able to get a good ground game. Guess what the 49ers can do? They can run the fucking football.
They can run the fucking football. And they can also, even if they're not running it in a handoff, they can do swing passes and screen passes, and Christian McCaffrey can run all over all over you know he's probably he's had what three weeks off now because he didn't play in that last week game or two weeks off so he's going to be healthy yeah I think the Niners are going to take it to him yeah I also love the over in this game it's my nuclear missile will play did you know the history between LeFleur and uh you have Sean McVay who was I guess kind of referring to LeFleur as his older brother, even though Sean McVay was his boss.
Yep. Back in 2017 when they were on the Rams, they got into a fight after practice.
I love it. I think they were 10-1 at the time.
They got into a fight, spilled over into the coach's office. They started screaming at each other.
LeFleur said, fire me. Just fucking fire me.
And McVay said, I'm not going to fire you. I quit so mcveigh said that he was going to quit because lafleur wanted sean mcveigh to fire him and then lafleur had to tell sean mcveigh no don't quit don't quit so then shot then lafleur rehired sean mcveigh in that fight and then he became what we all know of sean mcve today.
Okay. So they've got obviously a lot of history.

Wait, is this Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan?

This was Sean McVay.

And Matt LaFleur.

And Matt LaFleur.

Got it.

Yeah, but what I'm saying is they've got –

we're going to get the fucking graphic this weekend

of the Kyle Shanahan coaching tree,

which has somehow crept to include Chris Forrester,

the offensive line coach in San Francisco.

He's keep adding dudes. Yeah, Chris Forrester was the guy that snorted all that coke on that video.
And then he's been – Dudes rock. Dudes aren't allowed to have fun anymore.
I think he snorted coke and then sent the video to like a hooker, to impress her. I don't know what was going on.
That's impressive. Dude's rock moment.
Watch me take this whale tail. He's been successfully rehabbed to the point where he's now included on the graphic graphic with bobby slowick and uh you've got a lot just the graphic keeps getting bigger it gets bigger it gets bigger all the time and i hate it yeah no it's it's it's haunting for you i i understand because they really just show it all the time yeah all the time um so you should take the packers i am going to take the niners on okay yeah yeah i just and theers, like the Niners do have the Packers number.
They've beaten them, I think, three times in the playoffs in the last four or five years. Yeah.
Great. They're my lord and savior.
They are the protector. They're the night's watch.
I need the, like, I won't be nervous. If the Packers somehow win this game, it's threat level midnight.
Yeah. Because then it's like, what the fuck is happening? And Jordan Love is really, really goddamn good.
He's going to have to be perfect to win this game. He was perfect last week.
He was perfect last week. Yeah, if he does that again, then they could absolutely win this game.
But I think that the Niners are going to play with a lead. I think they're going to play their bully ball, kind of lean on people.
If they play with a lead, I think they can win. But their run defense has really good stats this year.
That's only because they always play with a lead. So teams only get – Aaron Jones is good.
They get like 50 yards rushing against the Niners because guess what? You're down by like 17 points in the first quarter. Is Jair Alexander going to play? He's doubtful, I saw.
Oof. So we don't know.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Nerd Nugget.
After last week's humongous performance, three touchdowns, Packers running back Aaron Jones is now the franchise leader in rushing touchdowns in the postseason with seven of them.

He's also now tied with Devonta Adams with eight total postseason touchdowns

and one more on Saturday night would put him at number two in franchise history.

That's surprising to me that he's their franchise leader with seven, you said?

Rushing, yeah.

In rushing touchdowns, considering how many times they've been to the playoffs,

but they always had like a revolving...

Eddie Lacy?

Eddie Lacy, China food.

China food.

Mm-hmm.

I loved Eddie Lacy.

He's the best. Rushing, yeah.
In rushing touchdowns, considering how many times they've been to the playoffs, but they always had like a revolving... Eddie Lacy?

Eddie Lacy, China Food.

China Food.

Mm-hmm.

I loved Eddie Lacy.

He's the best.

He was the best.

Just didn't...

I know you want me to lose weight.

Not going to lose weight.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

I went for the Niners.

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Yeah, we couldn't have...

I know.

Yeah, go ahead.

This season, 49ers running back Christian McCaffrey

led the NFL with 1,459 rushing yards.

He became the first player since 1995 and only the fourth since 1970 to lead the NFL in rushing after every single week of an entire season.

Start to finish.

Did you know that he also finished with 2,023 all-purpose yards, and he's the first player to ever finish with the same number of yards as the year?

You're joking.

I swear to God.

It's true. I'm glad you guys are finally coming around on around.
That's an incredible stat. Can you believe that shit? How did you find that stat? I thought of it.
I sat down in my head and I mentally added up every week of his yards because I keep track of that internally. And then I was like, wait, what year is it? That might be the stat of the year.
I think it's stat of the year. Stat of the year, PFT.
Yeah, stat of the year. Stat of the year.
The other three running backs to lead after each week,

Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton, and OJ Simpson.

Oh, okay.

Merd nugget of the week.

Yeah.

Good company, minus one.

Okay, Sunday.

Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

The Bucs going to the Lions.

I'm nervous for the Lions

because I was thinking about it narrative-wise.

The Lions have had a dream season. You had all the energy and everything going, beating Stafford.
It was like an incredible moment. Sprinkles came back.
We found that out on Sunday night. And then the Bucs, like as a franchise, they've obviously won two Super Bowls, no disrespect to the Bucs, but the Bucs to come in and steal it would just be very sad.
It'd be heartbreaking. It would be very sad.
Especially if the Packers win, and then you could have hosted the NFC Championship game. I like the quote from Dan Campbell this week.
He said, to those fans that had her back, you deserve this. For the doubters, stay off our train.
It's too late for you. Love that.
He's not opening up the bandwagon. The band and it's the trade he just loves train metaphors he started out off uh hard knocks with that a couple years ago when it was like metallica lyrics yeah yeah they're fucking trained right now i think they're gonna roll over the bucks i think the bucks pass defense on the road is one of the worst in the league and the line got a lot of guys healthier though now the line the lines passing offense is one of the best in the league at home.
They're going to blitz. And the moon is right, too.
Don't forget that. Oh, it is.
I believe it's... That makes me feel confident.
I believe it's a waxing gibbous this week. Yeah.
I think the Lions are 3-1 in that type of moon. I'm rooting for the Lions to beat the Bucs, but I'm nervous that the way the Lions play football with their secondary, it feels like every team can always get back in the game.
Can I give you an addition that they're making this week that you might not be thinking about? Okay. James Houston.
James Houston was very good when he was playing last year. He's been injured.
He's been out. He's back.
I think he's going to be ready to go. Okay.
I think that could make a difference because you watch how good their pass rush was last week against matt stafford yeah and there was a lot of emotion definitely in the building they wanted to hit matt stafford around um i think getting him back they're going to get after baker who's not the most mobile right now because he's still a little dinged up i have a a prop stat for everyone out there uh from my guys at sports info solutions the lions defense allowed the third most completions and fourth most yards to the slot receiver position. Okay.
Chris Godwin, maybe look at him. Okay.
I mean, if you're looking for some props. I'm always looking for an angle.
Yeah. I'm looking for value.
Chris Godwin does lead the Bucs in terms of reception, yards, targets from the slot. I just want Detroit to win this game.
I do too. I do too, very badly.
There's something that makes me nervous about just like – I feel like most Lions games have gone the similar way where it's like they look really good in the first half and then they just kind of hold on. So that's why the six and a half makes me nervous.
I think the Lions are going to win. I don't know about the six and a half.
Maybe Lions first half, take that lines are gonna win i don't know about the six and a half maybe lions first half take that bet yeah i don't hate that probably a winning better of a rest advantage for the lions they get an extra day and they don't have to travel yeah hmm okay maybe we do that what are you thinking detroit grit detroit i now are you hopping on the lions because people lions fans might be like hey isn't isn't this the Cowboys fan? Because then it would maybe blow up. No.
Again, for the uninformed, my original Cowboys fandom came from a future. My futures this season were the Dolphins and the Cowboys.
Those were my regular season futures that I had. The most fraudulent teams in the world.
But wait, you rooted for the Cowboys last season. Because of the future.
That's how this whole thing started, which is how I preface this. Because remember last year he put a future on the Cowboys because he was like Tom Brady is washed, so the Cowboys are going to beat him? Nope, that was not true.
I put it long before the playoff matchup. However, it's tough to find really good value this late in the playoffs, but my big brain cooked something smart.
I parlayed to an NFC team with the Celtics to win the championship, and I parlayed an AFC team with the Celtics to win a championship. Those two teams? Spicy.
Lions, Bills. Ooh.
Because that's the matchup I want to see in the Super Bowl just for the vibes.

That would be an incredible matchup.

I've been thinking about that.

I want both those teams to win somehow,

but I don't think I want to see them play each other.

But again, remember, we would get to dunk on everyone for the group.

I know.

There is that factor to it.

Yeah.

We had the Super Bowl before everyone else.

Yeah.

And Jared.

I love Jared.

I'm so happy for Jared.

So I'm rooting for Jared.

Yeah.

I want to see the Lions keep going. i want to talk to detroit don again now the question is like imagine a podcast with uh ed and alicia detroit don super fan that would that would be we wouldn't even have to get guests and sprinkles for them together yeah now here's something i've been tossing around and i don't want to get ahead of myself Bowl.
And sprinkles. Four of them together.
Yeah. Now, here's something I've been

tossing around, and I don't want to get ahead

of myself, but if the Lions somehow win

this game, and then they go to

San Francisco, so let's assume the

Niners win and the Lions win. Again,

nothing set, just

hypothetical. Do you

think that we should try to get Detroit

down in Superfan here for a stream?

With a dump button? Yeah, with a dump button. But toss it around.
I would love to see their reactions. We'll be with a delay.
Yeah, with a delay. Do you think, I feel like they probably have a bar that they go to every weekend for every away game.
No, they strike me as a living room setup, guys. Yeah? So I wouldn't want to mess with it.
I would offer it, but I would not want to mess with it. Also, with those guys, it's like, what's in it for them? I mean, it would be great stream content, but this is – Have fun with the boards.
How many runs do you get? Yeah, true. It actually would be mean because you'd have to like – Yeah.
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
I want to be with them if they win. I do – like watching them lose.
And then they would blame us if they lost. So might have to maybe send like Mincy to do some field reporting with them.

Oh, Mincy watching. In Detroit.

All right.

So you want to get their reactions, but they should be in there.

They should be allowed to be in their element.

All right.

I'm happy we talked it out.

You're absolutely right.

Yeah, because if they were on the live stream, chances are, I mean,

the 49ers would be favored by quite a bit that weekend.

So you're likely to be inviting them to broadcast and live stream their own funeral Which people love to see Max. He's died about 100 times.
Yeah. He's a star.
I love it. Keeps coming back, though.
Who are you rooting for in the playoffs, Max? I'm Lions all the way. Yeah.
Corey has also asked me to- To not do that? No, the opposite. He wants me to like his emotional support.
Are you going to get in a Honolulu blue jumpsuit? No. I said I have one for you.
I thought he was dressed up as a lion. I have a jumpsuit you can wear on Sunday.
I don't like this. I don't like this at all.
Why are we trying to do this for the Lions? Should we be rooting for the team that beat you? Like respect? Like, you know, they're the better team. I want the team that beat us to win the Super Bowl.
Max, there's a fuckload of Lions fans out there that are like, keep Max away from our team. The real thing is – And Dan Campbell said he doesn't want you.
What? Dan Campbell said he doesn't want you. He said, stay off our train.
It's too late for you. But I'm not, like, a real fan.
The real thing is I need the Niners to lose, and there's no way that the Bucs can beat the Niners. I really need the Niners.
Why do you need the Niners? Oh, I know why you need the Niners to lose. This is great.
We need the Niners to win. No, I really need the Niners to lose.
PFT, we need the Niners to win. Why does he need the Niners to lose? Because he basically is saying that last year was such a fluke because Brock Purdy got hurt, so if the Niners go to the Super Bowl, it eliminates all of the Eagles' success.
And then except for one little piece, Nick Sirianni's still there. We need the Niners to win.
Oh, my God. You shouldn't have said that out loud.
You know what would be great, though? Yes. If Brock Purdy has a minor injury, right? Let's say something small happens, minor ankle injury, can't play in most of the game, and the 49ers beat the fuck out of the Packers.
And then next round, they beat the fuck out of whoever, and they go to the Super Bowl without Brock Purdy. That would be good for me.
Yeah, that would be good for him because he would be like, we were that good. Then they would be like, all right, what's your argument last year if you just did it this year? I go back to saying you should not root for the lions no he needs we need the 49ers to win and and win big and so that way we can be like and the lines retroactively the 49ers should have been in the super bowl against the chiefs got it yeah stay away stay that's what yeah stay far away detroit keep this man keep this man far away from your children just gave me life.
I love this. I'm going to be Niners Dan.
Happy I asked. This is great.
I have so much newfound life, love for football. Niners Dan rolling up.
They should have been back-to-back champs. You said – we haven't played the interview yet.
But you said we should be supporting our boys in 2024. You never support your boys.
We don't want you supporting our boys. Well, Joe Flacco's our boy.
You're not our boy. And also, Max, he was rooting for the Eagles last year.
I was rooting for the Eagles last year. Spoiler alert, but in the interview, there's a lot of South Philly guys around Flacco that doubt him.
We need you to also doubt people to give them motivation. Yeah.
Have you ever thought about that? Maybe you're just such a powerful force that having you root against somebody gives them so much to overcome. I didn't see this angle with the Niners, and now that he said it out loud, it's fucking on.
The Niners are a wagon. And that would be a double win for you, because Max, the Packers losing.
Oh, yeah. Well, I was already rooting for the Niners, but I'm saying I'm rooting for them to get to the Super Bowl now because I want it to be erased.
That's double misery. He's going to deal with 49ers fans being like, you never would have beaten us.
We've got to make it so that when the Niners eventually win, they use Max in their post game hype that you'll like to do with Florio. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
And if he doesn't say anything, we can just do the AI. We'll do AI max.
So you're saying that if the Niners play the Lions in the conference championship,

you're going to be rooting for the Niners?

I'm saying that I don't want you rooting for either team.

In that case, I'll be rooting for whichever team wins.

I'm rooting for the Lions.

I'm rooting for whichever team ends up winning.

That way I'm out a winner.

We're going to root the over on that game.

Well, we're going to root for our personal friends to just crush it have the games of their lives uh all right wait did we do nerd nugget not only have the buccaneers won a bunch of playoff games since 2020 but tampa bay has won a good chunk of them with some breathing room their plus 64 playoff points margin since 2020 is the best in the nfl and we're not going to talk about who was responsible for that. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I brought up the Jordan

Aaron Rodgers in

AT&T Stadium and look what happened.

The Bucs

are different. They're different.
I don't

hate the Bucs. In fact, I think Baker Mayfield

is a great story. He should

be the comeback player of the year this year.

And I will never root against Baker Mayfield.

I think he's... What?

I don't know. Baker was even on...
I like Baker. I've always liked Baker.
No, he's great. They pulled a Philly.
Come back by the year. Might be a stretch.
They pulled a Philly on him. They ran him out of town.
Yeah. Also, they just won by 23.
That's plus 23 with Baker. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that was the Eagles. Last week.
He stink. And then for the Lions, combining the regular season and postseason, the most rushing touchdowns a player has had in their first season with the Lions, David Montgomery, 14 this year.
Barry Sanders, 14 in 1989. One more touchdown for Montgomery, the most ever rushing touchdowns by a line in their first season.
Great player. Great player.
I would never let him walk out that door. The run.
Nope. All right, last game, Chiefs of Bills.
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I don't know if I'm emotionally ready for this game. Oh, I am.
I'm very ready for this game. I'm very nervous.
People have already accused us of being the Glazers of Buffalo. I'm rooting for the Bills.
I think the Chiefs are going to win. So Taylor is going to the game, I heard, and she better be careful in Buffalo.
Every time you say it, I'm like Taylor LeJuan, and then I remember that, oh, yeah, that singer, whatever her name is. Yeah, Taylor Swift.
I recommended Wignuts to her, haven't heard back. Yeah.
Yeah. I think she's going to have to be careful in Buffalo, not because they're going to attack her, but because I think that if she's not careful, she could fall in love with somebody who builds mafia.
Big time. She's going to fall in love.
Alpha energy everywhere. Pinto Ron.
Yeah. Pinto Ron is going to take her home.
Yeah. Pinto Ron might be in her box.
One of those guys who jumps in the pit. Yeah.
After the game. Yeah.
They've been doing that. Is she going to break a table? That'd be sick.
That would be sick if they lit her on fire and she broke a table. She's been so uptight, proper, Little Miss Hollywood for the longest time.
She's going to see some real men in Buffalo. Yeah.
She's going to be like, I didn't know this was even an option. She's going to see some beefy men with a Buffalo wing hat on.
Oh be great if she over if she did go to the pinto ron tailgate and she just got brazzers with ketchup and mustard yes right to the face i'm looking out for that i'm a race buffalo taylor on the field uh something to look out for this weekend it's uh the ref is sean hockley sean hockley loves roughing the passers and if you were to think of like two quarterbacks that would get a lot of these calls. Do a good job of selling them.
They both do a good job. Yeah, they're very good at making sure the refs see in roughing the passers.
I feel like Sean Hockley is going to have a legacy day. Yeah.
So I'm very nervous for this game for the Bills. Their defensive injuries have been insane.
They're so bad I've started following this account called Banged Up Bills, which it could be like a porn site. Maybe Banged Up Bills.
They have two linebackers who are limited practice or did not practice, two cornerbacks that are limited practice, did not practice, Bernard, Dodson, Johnson, Benford, and then that doesn't even count Razul Douglas, who I think is going to play, but that feels like a lot. They've had a lot of injuries, the cornerback and linebacker position.
Josh Allen's going to have to play a superhuman game. And then the stat that is a scary stat, Patrick Mahomes as an underdog is 7-3 straight up and 8-1-1 against the spread in his career.
I would imagine that most of the games he's been underdogs. It's only by a couple points, though.
Yeah. But yeah.
Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs. The Chiefs are, again, like Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL.
And to bet against him in the playoffs is very tough to do but I feel like this Buffalo's here I so I want to I want to go to our friend Hank here because he can probably speak to this um if Patrick Holmes wins this game it doesn't feel like this is the part of the Brady legacy that he's doing where it's like there's some really great quarterbacks that just can't get through Patrick Mahomes? Yeah, on the road too. That's been a common, you know, the knock.
He can't win on the road. This is his first road playoff.
Can't win on the road. I like that.
If he doesn't win this game, we will say he can't win on the road. But it would be a double whammy.
Right, because it's like, you know, you think of like Phil Rivers, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, like these guys who probably would have had multiple Super – I mean, Peyton Manning obviously has multiple Super Bowls, won the second with the Broncos. Big Ben has two.
Phillip Rivers has zero. Like they would have had more if Tom Brady wasn't sitting there in the AFC every single year.
Yeah, I mean. And it feels like that's – this is like the story arc of like all these great quarterbacks that Mahomes is just snatching Super Bowls from them.
Peyton couldn't until he did. Yeah.
And then he could. I feel like that's what's going to happen.
I hope you're – I mean, I'm rooting my dick off for the Bills. But I'm very nervous for this game for the Bills just because they're defensive injuries.
You can't really make excuses. A lot of times it's the team that's healthiest at this time of year.
You know who is healthy on the Bills defense? Jordan Poyer, or should I say his actual name, which is DJ Poyo. Oh.
Have you heard? I can't believe we didn't talk about this when the story came out. Like a month ago, Jordan Poyer, he went to, I think, Costa Rica about a year ago, did ayahuasca, and he changed his personality to no longer being Jordan Poyer.
It's DJ Poyo. Oh, I like that.
And DJ Pollo, apparently while he's tripping on ayahuasca and he changed his personality to no longer being jordan poyer it's dj poyo oh i like that dj poyo apparently while he's tripping on ayahuasca he had an out-of-body experience where he saw his body lecturing himself so like he gave himself a pep talk saying like you don't need alcohol you don't need to doubt yourself all this stuff i think he's sober now he's sober now because DJ Pollo told Jordan Poyer, you don't need all this stuff.

So he like coached himself up on Ayahuasca. Do you think DJ Poyo Poyo? DJ Poyo Poyo told Jordan Poyer like Good job with the wife Yeah he did.
He said also you need to Change some things in life but stick with Rachel Rachel Bushes yeah you did a good. Nice work.
You know how they met? That was also in the same story that I read. What?

He was in the NFL, and she liked

one of his posts on Instagram. He DM'd

her, and she was a freshman in college,

and they're like, let's hang out.

Wham, bam. Love.
Thank you, ma'am. Love.

It's love.

Yeah, they do have

Boyer and... What's his name?

Line. They're two safeties.
Fuck. I mean and what's his name? Line.

They're two safeties.

Fuck.

I mean, he's a very good safety.

Why is this escaping me right now?

Damar Hamlin.

Micah Hyde.

Micah Hyde.

Thank you.

Hyde and Poyer are healthy.

It's just that middle.

And their front four is healthy.

It's just that middle of the defense is just battered.

Yeah.

Battered.

Need Matt Milano to do like a Willis Reed. You should do it.
do it dude just do it break your leg i'd play put it back together would you play yeah yeah i'd walk that shit off i don't know of the guys i listed i feel like maybe two will play there one of them um has a concussion so i feel like concussion i feel like uh for some reason the science in concussions,

the protocol in coming back from concussions, it becomes a lesser amount of days as you get to the playoffs.

Yeah, it was like 10% or 20% in the regular season,

but the cold weather sets in.

You know cold is an anti-inflammatory, right?

So your brain in the cold, it actually recovers much quicker.

That's a fact. That's a fact.

All right, Jake.

Sunday will mark Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes' first ever road playoff game. In six seasons, he's played 13 playoff games at Arrowhead, and he's 11-2.
The former Texas Tech quarterback has only worn a white jersey one time in his postseason career. It was last year in the Super Bowl against the Eagles.
They were the road team technically in Super Bowl 55 against the Bucs and lost in last year's Super Bowl as well. So it's rare to see Mahomes in white in the playoffs.
Is he an arrowhead merchant? We'll find out. Many are saying.
Many are saying. Well, he also won a game in Miami at the Super Bowl and Phoenix.
I'm just saying, is he an arrowhead merchant? That's what we will be saying about him after this game. Yeah.
And then for the Bills, elite protection for Josh Allen. The Bills allowed 24 sacks this season, the fewest in the NFL, and four fewer than the Chiefs who are next on the list.
The 28 sacks allowed by the Bills are the fewest by any team since their 2011 team. What's the Lake doing this weekend? Do we know? I think they dumped more snow this week, middle of the week.

Who, DARPA?

Who dumped more snow?

The lake.

Okay, the lake did.

The lake did.

It's a great lake.

Yeah, the lake did.

It's one of the five great lakes that we have.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they had more snow.

Orchard Park weather for Sunday.

It's going to be a low of 15.

So it's going to be football weather. Yep so it's going to be it's going to be football weather yep can the chiefs play in the cold we don't know oh late winters handoff to early spring can be increasingly above average temperatures for many oh because i just went to weather.com that's good oh for us yeah yeah oh it's el nino we got el nino i didn El Nino this year.
Rocking with El Nino this year. Oh.
Warmer than average temperatures develop deeper into the new season. Okay.
Okay. El Nino.
Did we ever find out if that video from last week at Arrowhead was real or fake? The one where they had the bottle of water that instantly froze? I think it might have been real. There was like 10 people that went to the hospital for hypothermia.
That kind of yeah i hope they had a special wing in the hospital and like red and yellow decked out for them especially rocks if it was any of the guys with their shirts off yeah that's just like real men of genius shit yep uh okay we're excited for games you can watch us streaming all weekend uh i think it's time we should get to our interview with joe flacco which was a great interview before we do do that, PFT, you got a quick word from our sponsors. Joe Flacco is going to be brought to you by Chevy.
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It is Joe Flacco, Cleveland Browns quarterback. Hopefully Cleveland Browns quarterback next year.
We can get into that. Joe, we have to start, though.
Apologies. Happy birthday.
Yesterday was your birthday. Yes, it was.
39. You got it.
I appreciate it. Yeah, so we are, PFT and I are both january 1985 guys as well yep so there we go yeah so we're we're turning 39 at the end of the month how's 39 feel i'm scared to get there i wouldn't be it's all good man you know the older we get and you know the better it is yeah yeah well i i kind of feel like shit every day so i'm hoping that once i turn 39 i'll just magically be better well eventually when the older you get kind of feel like shit every day.
So I'm hoping that once I turn 39, I'll just magically be better. Well, eventually, when the older you get, if you feel like shit, you're just supposed to.
So, you know, it starts to match up. Yeah.
So I was reading, actually, before you came on, I saw an article back from 2021, I think, about how your kids used to give you shit after Jets games because you were losing. And they'd be like, Dad, you stink.
You can't play quarterback. I'm curious to know were your kids used to give you shit after Jets games because you were losing and they'd be like, dad, you stink.
You can't play quarterback. I'm curious to know, were your kids watching the Browns this year and did they make up for any of that? Were they, were they a little bit nicer to you after games? You know, it's funny when all the good stuff's happening, they stay pretty quiet.
You can just see big smiles on their face, but it's not like they're, it's not like they're jumping out of their seats to come compliment me that's for sure uh you just have to kind of read their faces and take it for what it is i like that though you got just a group of haters in your house keep you motivated listen true true south jersey slash philadelphia uh born kids that's for sure uh just natural born haters yeah all All right, so obviously the playoffs didn't go your guys' way. How are you feeling, though? It was an awesome run.
We've been a fan of yours for a very long time. It was great to see you back out there.
Do you think you're going to be – I want to see you play some more. Has this reinvigorated you? Because I think I heard the story.
You were doing interviews interviews to be in media and the next thing you know you're playing in the playoffs honestly man that's the last thing I want to do is be doing interviews to get myself behind the camera so I'm going to try to do this as long as possible and diminish those possibilities as much as I can but yeah I mean of course I think I think anytime you have a two-month period where you're able to play a lot of football and just have a ton of fun doing it, how lucky was I to just get on a team that was ready to make a run like that and just be around a bunch of great guys, be back into the locker room? I mean, it just reminded me of all of those things kind of come flooding back to you. I knew I wanted to play.
I know I still want to play, but it's just a matter of getting the opportunity to do it. You don't know if that's going to come and in what ways it's going to present itself.
So definitely reinvigorated to it if that's what you want to say to get back out there and do it. You made a lot of GMs look stupid this year because this was the year where a lot of quarterbacks got hurt

and we saw a lot of guys get their shot and then you show up

and it's like, wait, yeah, Joe Flacco's really goddamn good.

Like, why wasn't Joe Flacco getting the call?

Yeah, it's tough.

You know, I think when you're around the league,

you see a bunch of things happen and not everything makes sense.

Some things do. It just is what it is.

You have to be able to keep your head up and go with the flow to a certain extent. Um, you know, listen, I honestly, for me, it's tough to think about the calls that I didn't get because I did end up getting one and it ended up being a really good one.
I really do think, you know, so much about playing quarterback in this league you know uh is about handling what

you can handle but at the same time um you want to be in a good situation with good football players and good coaches and um uh i think that's kind of what i was put in i was lucky enough to be put in that situation so what is it exactly about cleveland that made it such a good fit for you I'll tell you what, man, that city, it's interesting.

I don't know why it ends up being... What is it exactly about Cleveland that made it such a good fit for you? I'll tell you what, man, that city, it's interesting.

I don't know why it ends up being a fit the way it was,

but it's obvious.

You can kind of figure out why you fit in the locker room

and with the coaches because you're around those guys every single day.

It's just awesome to kind of make those new friends

and make those relationships.

But I do think there was something special about just being there and the way that people treated me. day.
And it's just awesome to kind of, you know, make those new friends and make those relationships.

But I do think there was something special about just being there and the way that people treated me and the team at the, you know, the few weeks that I was there, I definitely felt a lot of love. My family did as well.
I don't want to say people were going out of their way, but it was, you know, and I don't go out of my way to go out. I kind of went from my, went from the facility to my apartment every now and then grabbed a cup of coffee, facility, apartment, coffee, you know, and the people were just unbelievable.
And you could feel the excitement in the city. You could just tell that they're hungry for some winning football.
And, you know, it was nice to get to that point in the year where you can play some meaningful games, but you know, they're, they're cravingoff wins and and a chance at that super bowl so you can you could just feel the energy of that in the city do you feel a little bit weird playing for the browns playing for a division rival the ravens like when you went in the facility the first time you had to be like am i am i a traitor oh man uh what a way to put it uh am i a traitor? You know what? I think if it was right after the time that I was in Baltimore, it would have been a little bit different. But I had been on a couple different teams at this point.
I mean, I've been in Denver. I've been in Philly.
I've been in New York. I've also seen the business side of this and just how, you know, listen, guys want to play football.
I'm one of those guys that wants to play football. If these guys are willing to give me a job, then, yeah, I'm going to go in there and test it out.
And so I do think there's probably something to it if I went right from Baltimore to Cleveland and wasn't traded there. Maybe I chose to go there.
I could see how that was i mean having said that everybody obviously

the first question people ask is you know what's it like man did you ever think you'd be in cleveland if you're playing there all those years and obviously not but um it was it was it didn't feel weird being there it felt like being back in the locker room uh you know and for somebody that didn't get to do that for a couple months through training camp in september october most of november It just felt good to be part of a locker room. I mean, I guess in one way, I mean, I really, the Baltimore organization came from there.
You know, we, when I was in Baltimore, I mean, people had, you know, obviously good stories about being in Cleveland. There's people from that organization in the front office that came from there.
Matt Stover was still on the team. He played in Cleveland.
I mean, so in one respect, you can kind of see the connection between the two. I know it's not necessarily the greatest thing between the fans, especially in Cleveland and stuff like that.
But, you know, it's kind of cool the way things work out. Yeah.
So I want to take it back a little bit because you're an all-time confidence guy. Even this year, like the stories about how you're out of the league, but you're still practicing.
You're going out with your family, throwing balls. The famous story about betting on yourself the year you win the Super Bowl, free agency, all-time confidence guy.
But I didn't realize this when I was reading about it. There was a time when you were in Delaware where you wanted to quit football.
We were like, maybe I should just play baseball. Is that true? I always, as with every story, there's like truths in this, in the story.
By the end of my junior year, I mean, no, I didn't want to quit football. The first year I had a Delaware, but when I was looking at colleges coming out of high school, playing baseball at some point was something that I had entertained and at least wanted to leave the option open to whether I could have played college baseball or not.
Who knows? Um, I brought it up to my, to my football coach and, you know, to Casey Keeler when I was at Delaware and he pretty quickly shot it down. And I was, and at that point I was okay with loves telling the story about how Joe wanted to play baseball.
And Joe, I think you're going to be okay. Just stick with the football thing.
And he's got a whole story about it, which I love. It's awesome for him to tell.
But no, I mean, there is things. Of course, like, yeah, I did entertain wanting to play baseball, but it had nothing to do with not wanting to play football.
I mean, obviously, when you transfer from a Division I school to a Division I AA school, FCS school, yeah, there's thoughts that go through your head, like, damn, like, can I do this? And I think that's where, like, family members and friends and, like, you know, being able to have that support system to keep your confidence going through those kind of, like, you, year and a half, a little bit of tough times that you have. And then you kind of come out of that.
So, yeah, like that definitely helped. And there's definitely doubt that creeps in your head.
I mean, shoot, like the last two months, you don't think there was doubt that creeped into my head? I mean, it happens all the time. I think that's such a big thing.
And part of it is just kind of, that's what, you know, is finding that daily routine and, and all those different things that distract you from like yourself and all those bad thoughts going into your head. You don't want that shit, man.
You want to go out there and you want to play and you want to think you're the man. And when you're not doing that, it is tough to think that.
Yeah. So you have to trick yourself to a certain extent, but more so you just have to find things that you love to do that distract you from having those thoughts.
So related off that, you're at Delaware and people are like, hey, you're going to get drafted. At what point were you like, wait, I actually am going to get drafted in pretty high? I mean, being a first rounder, like, because I would imagine the process of transferring being it, like you said, at one double A, you're thinking like, all right, maybe I'll get drafted late in the draft and have a shot.
Was there a moment where you're like, oh, shit, all these people telling me I'm going to get drafted really high. It actually might happen.
Yeah, that's the thought process. When you come out of high school and when you're a little kid, like, man, I want to be a first-round pick and I want to do this.
And then you're transferring down a level and you're like, all right, I'm going to have to get picked late maybe if I play well here. maybe I'll be a first round pick i want to do this and then you're transferring down a level and you're like all right i'm gonna have to like you know get picked late maybe if i play well here maybe i'll be a free agent and like after seeing how all that works i mean that's a tough path especially even even if that is the even if that does happen and you do find yourself you know in a mini camp or whatever it is that's a tough path so um went through that process even on draft day like, okay, I'm going to be, I'm pretty confident.
I'm going to be drafted here. But even coming from a small school, it's like, is it going to be the first round? Is it going to be the third or fourth round? When's this going to be? You know, I was very reluctant to like, let people come into my house and film that day because I'm like, I don't know when I'm going to be picked to your guys.
Like you could be here for three days and it's not that bad of a thing. Cause it's not like I'm going somewhere myself.
You guys are coming into my house, but, um, but yeah, I did definitely didn't, you know, wasn't super confident that I was going to be picked in the first round, which I was, uh, it could have been third, fourth round still, you know, I, you never really know. Yeah.
It ended up being the perfect fit with the Ravens. I heard that they loved you because of your arm and your ability to to play in adverse weather conditions which you have to do you know certainly in that division so you get to the team and i don't know if you have a chip on your shoulder or what your motivation is at that point but when did you first realize like yeah i belong here i can start in the nfl you know it's one of those things like every time go up the level, there's a little bit of time where you're uncomfortable.
And I think that's necessary to get to that next level. You have to be able to deal with that uncomfort and not being comfortable.
And I think it makes you better when you kind of can go through that and get to that next level. So by the time you're a fifth fifth year senior or whatever you are you're the guy in college you're feeling good you've already gotten past that and now you realize man i'm gonna have to go through it again i don't have to walk into a brand new locker room where nobody has any inkling as to how well i can play and maybe i can't you know and and they're probably thinking now this guy probably can't play but let's.
And you got to go prove to everybody on your team that you can play. And then you have to get the confidence to kind of at least fake it that you feel like you're that guy in the beginning, and then eventually become that guy.
So my first year, the first offseason and the first training camp, kind of weird. We had Troy Smith and Kyle Bowler on the team, and I think they were kind of battling out to be the starter.
And Kyle ended up hurting his shoulder, and Troy ended up coming down with a sickness for like a month, two months. I mean, it was something crazy.
So kind of by just happenstance, I end up being the guy. And I think as soon as you become the guy, and as soon as...
So I remember it was this, we were playing the St. Louis Rams back in St.
Louis, third preseason game. I wasn't supposed to play at all.
It was supposed to be Troy and Kyle split down the middle. Kyle gets hurt at the beginning of the week.
And Troy, I forget if he made the trip. I think he made the trip, but it was like he's pretty sick.
We don't know if he's going to make it. And the morning of the game, they told me, Joe, you're the only quarterback.
You're playing the whole game. So I go from not playing at all.
So you can imagine the mental mindset, the mindset there to now you're playing the entire game. And I think going out there and playing the entire game and getting the confidence that like, okay, it's just football.
I can do this and doing it well. That's when it was like, okay, man, you're the guy.
And the mindset kind of switched. It was like I got through that period of the little hardships and trying to prove it to your teammates, trying to prove it to yourself, trying to prove it to your coaches that you can do this.
And now it feels like everybody's starting to believe that you can do it. And it's just up to you to go do it.
And I think that's when it kind of all changed and really became real. What about meeting Ray Lewis for the first time? Was that intimidating? Oh, my God.
I tapped him on the shoulder. I think I was in the hot tub maybe the first time.
And I just remember watching him walk by. I didn't say shit to him.
But I think one of the first times I tapped him on the shoulder and shook his hand hand and it was like the hardest surface that i'd ever touched in my life and it was like you know you you you've you've grown up watching that guy run sideline to sideline and just you know just be superhuman it was definitely a surreal moment to be in the same log room with a guy like that yeah Yeah, those Ravens teams were interesting because you were obviously the leader of the offense,

but you're more of a reserve guy.

You're more low-key.

You never get too high, never get too low.

And Ray is probably the most intense person to ever be creative on planet Earth.

So the two leaders in that locker room couldn't be further apart from each other.

When Ray would speak, I've noticed this about Ray sometimes,

when he talks, it doesn't matter sometimes the actual words that he says. it's like the spirit that he's convinced, you know what he's saying, regardless of the word.
So you just like sit there and nod, you just get pumped up, just listen to him talk, right? Dude, it's incredible. Everything that he did was just incredible.
And it's so funny because like, I think a lot of people see the leaders that were on that team and they know team and they know me and they're like, and they kind of, there's, there's a little bit of a push for people to try to like get me to be like that. And it's like, dude, like the guys that are like Ray Lewis, they respect people for being themselves.
Like, I think, you know, so I'm going to be myself. And, um, but I, I tell people, man, I never liked like coming out of the tunnel,

like doing all that stuff.

Like,

like,

and not just coming out of the tunnel,

like,

cause that,

that is cool.

Come walking,

running out of a tunnel in an NFL stadium.

I don't do anything.

I literally put my head down and run,

but when you hear people cheer,

it's an awesome feeling.

I eventually kind of became tired of it.

Like,

can't we just let the defense come out every single week?

But,

but like growing up,

like I could care less to watch guys do different dances and

Thank you. it's an awesome feeling.
I eventually kind of became tired of it. Like, can't we just let the defense come out every single week? But, but like growing up, like I could care less to watch guys do different dances and different things like that coming out of the tunnel.
And then you get to see Ray Lewis come out of the tunnel in person. And I swear to God, uh, I might've been a week or two ago.
We were in a QB meeting in Cleveland and I was telling the young guys how bad I felt for them to never get to experience that in person. It was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen on a football field.
And it had nothing to do with the game. It was just him coming out of the tunnel, picking up a piece of sod and doing his thing.
I don't even know how much he probably, I wonder how much he really even wanted to do that at the end. But everybody else had so much that was riding on it.
You would look over to the sideline of the team that we were playing and every single person on that sideline and probably all the coaches in the booth were looking towards that tunnel to see him come out. It was incredible.
And Terrell Suggs and Ed Reed also had awesome entrances, but his was just another level. Yeah, it was iconic.
It was iconic. All right.
I have a dumb question for you. You throw an incredible spiral.
We love watching you throw the deep ball. We call it a fuckable spiral.
So my question to you is two part, do you ever like throw a ball and you're like, damn, I throw a good spiral. Like to this day, like shock yourself, like, man, Joe, you can really throw this fucking pig skin.
And then the other question is, did you – do you have a moment, like, I don't know how old you were, but like the first time you threw one, you're like, wow, I can throw it. You know, it's funny because people have been asking me these questions recently.
I think everybody at some point has a throw where they were like – you know, you come to the sideline and you say to the other quarterbacks, oh man, you know, I don't know. I felt pretty good about that one.
You know, you try to like humbly bring it up in a way that, you know, they can see right through it. They know what you're doing, but you know, it's tough for you to not try to bring it up.
And then I was just doing it. I was just talking to somebody and they were asking me you know like when yeah like when did you throw so when when did you realize you could throw it i remember um we were probably i grew up 60 feet from my elementary school and we were in the schoolyard throwing a football me and my dad and it was like an nfl sized football that he kind of thought was like oh man this is a real nfl It wasn't a real NFL ball.
It was fake leather. It weighed probably 10 ounces less than a real football weighs and all that.
But I remember throwing it. And like I said, I think I told the other guy this too.
I could be making this story up completely. I was eight years old.
I think I was in first grade. But I threw a couple passes to him, and I just remember the look on his face kind of like, all right, that was pretty good, bud.
You could tell that obviously he probably knew I could throw a little bit at that point, like at least a baseball. He knew I could throw a baseball.
But to pick up a decently sized football and be able to throw it, and then I think I just remember seeing a little bit of a look on his face and his reaction and being like, maybe I can throw.

That's pretty good.

I don't know.

That's awesome.

I mean, that was, yeah.

Your dad got to see the first Joe Flacco throw.

It's like that guy, that kid can, he's going.

He's probably a little upset.

He's like, he's better than I am. Yeah.

I mean, that look was a little bit like.

For sure.

I mean, listen, I'm a father now.

I think there's a little bit of that.

Have your kids ever, have your kids done a Flacco throw yet? Where you're like, oh, I see that. Not to put pressure on them.
My oldest son is getting better and better at throwing the ball. My second son is very natural at throwing the ball.
He's obsessed with wide receivers. They're all obsessed with wide receivers.
They all want to play wide out. Um, and I'll let them, but my second son for sure is going to have to play quarterback.
Uh, I think he's just too natural of a thrower. So I'm, Oh man, another line of Flacco's would be awesome.
It'd be good for the world. Yeah.
I mean, we got the flag football and the Olympics coming up. I don't know, man, these, these kids, my kids are growing up a little bit different than I grew up.
So I don't know if we want to see what they're all about.

That could be trouble for everybody.

So another hypothesis that we've had,

I don't think we're the only ones to point this out,

but you at your peak were very, very good at throwing

slightly underthrown balls to draw pass interferences.

And we thought that sometimes you would do it intentionally.

I don't know if you ever did intentionally,

but it was actually a great, it was a strong suit of your offense where even if you had a misthrow, there was still a pretty good chance that you guys were going to get like 30 yards on a PI. Did, was that ever something that you actively thought about? You know what? I wish you could think about that because that play works every single time you're watching.
You're sitting at home on the couch and you're watching these NFL games and you're like man they got to do something about that rule that's such a you know situation for those defensive guys um no uh listen when we had Torrey Smith Torrey could get out there he you know he could run um you had to get used to throwing the ball out there to him so So I think that's part of it. And part of it is just, you know, you have to put the ball in the money and every now and then you're a little off.
And if you put the ball up high and those guys can do a good job of jumping up, especially when those guys jump, when they jump and leave their feet, that's when they really get called. Listen, I wish I was good enough to actually actively think about under throwing balls because I knew I knew I couldn't make a good enough pass, and then next thing you know we get PIs.
I think I've played with some guys that run good go balls, and the amount that you do it, you're going to have a bunch of those. Yeah, I would assume your favorite throw was the touchdown to Jacoby Jones, like the 70-yard touchdown against the Broncos in your Super Bowl run.
Was that run, though? Like, could you feel like you were kind of in the zone? Because that was the best. Joe Flacco, like, betting on himself, and now he's just balling out in the playoffs.
I think when you're in the middle of the run, you're just trying to take it week by week. Obviously, when you win a game like that, I think in the back of your head, there is a little bit of like, man, I've seen guys win games like that.
Teams win games like that. And then they go win the Super Bowl.
I think we all probably had that. Listen, with that team, we had been through so much.
We had been to two AFC Championship games already. We lost to New England the year before that.
We were a confident team that had been through a lot, but I do think that gave us an extra boost. Winning that football game against Peyton Manning up in Denver, it gave us that little bit of like, you know, you're not necessarily aware of it, but it just gave us that confidence.
Because I remember being, you know, we went up to New England after that and where we lost the year before, and we beat them. And I don't think anybody was thinking anything of it we were like yeah we're going up to new england and we're going to win and obviously it's easy to say that looking back um but even in new orleans down the super bowl that year i just there was just a sense of calm about everybody there we were having fun enjoying each other and we were just ready to go win a football game yeah um so yeah i think that that definitely went a.
It just gave you, it just gave us that extra little something that we probably didn't even realize was there. Whether it was confidence or whether it was just like, man, we just got to go play.
Like, yeah, this is what it's about. It's just going and playing football and, and playing as loose as you can.
And, and, and, and it translates into victories. So down in New Orleans during the Superbowl lights go out at halftime.
What was that like? How did you guys regroup? Were you talking to each other? Were you going over extra things? Or were you just sitting around just waiting for the lights to come back on? I think we were mostly sitting around kind of fake stretching, you know, acting like we were stretching and doing active warm-ups just to kind of, you know, act like we were doing something. But I don't think anybody really knew what to do.
And we didn't play very well after that. So, you know, it's just one of those things that, you know, who knows how you're supposed to react to that.
I'm sure you have to – because we didn't know how long it was going to last either. I mean, you know, today they turn the lights back on and off with a flick of like, you know, it's not even a second.
Back then it's like, all right, how long is it going to take these things to get going then do they need to warm up at all like what's the deal here and it was i think it was not long after halftime either which you know was was is an extra long show at that time of the year so um i it's such a blur you remember pretty much nothing like how it actually was from that time but i remember just mostly not doing that much. Did you, I know it's a Superbowl, so there's a lot of pressure, but did you feel any extra pressure knowing your coach had to beat his brother? Because like, that's no, we, we've had both Harbaugh's on, we've had Jim Harbaugh on a bunch and like, you can tell it still bothers him that he, that like his brother beat him.
You know, I'm an older brother.

John's the older brother.

I think there was just kind of –

I think I actually found a little sense of comfort that fate was on our side.

The little brother ain't supposed to beat the older brother in the Super Bowl

the first time they go together.

It's just not how it works out.

Yeah, because it does still –

I think that's probably the main reason why Jim is going to come back

in the NFL at some point is because he can't live with the fact

that his brother has a Super Bowl over.

It's... out yeah yeah because it it does still i think that's probably the main reason why jim is going to come back in the nfl at some point is because he can't live with the fact that his brother has a super bowl over yeah i i think i saw him say something about after he won the national championship i think i saw him say something about that he can he can sit at the big boy table now because he's he's won you know he's won a championship um listen they're they're both incredible coaches i don't think they need to do anything.
I think they love to do it, and they're really good at it. John has been in Baltimore his whole career, but everywhere Jim's gone, he's made teams a winner.
He's made that team a winner, so it's pretty special. What is it about John that makes him such a great coach? Because it is watching the NFL and there's a few teams that have coaches have been along there for a long time, but there's a lot of teams just revolving door.
And John Harbaugh is one of those guys that it's just year in and year out. You have a consistently really good team.
What, what, what is it compared to other coaches that he's doing that gives them that consistency well it's his attention to detail I mean it's all the little things that you that you get to see a little bit of behind closed doors and um but it's his attention to detail uh he wants to have a physical football team you know he's been around winning football teams so he sees kind of what wins and what wins late late in season so what kind of what kind of people he needs to put on the roster um and it's a great organization i mean they have a lot of help you know there's a lot of help around that building a lot of people to rely on to make sure the roster's uh where it should be and and capable of winning big football games yeah yeah um if you were to use one word to describe your career and your ability as a quarterback, what would that one word be? I don't have one, man. You're asking the wrong guy.
Would it start with an E? Yeah. Then an L.
I wasn't even thinking about that, man. Oh, come on.
You are. You know what? my four high school buddies, four of my high school buddies came out to the Jets game on Thursday night, and one of them had sweatshirts made up with that on it.
And they were wearing them all freaking week. Shout out to Barstool Sports Store.
I'm not going to say it here myself. I'll let everybody else have fun.
You won't even say the E word. You won't even say elite.
Come on. Are you sick of it? It's such a funny thing, man.
Back when I came in, like back in 08, 09, 10, 11, that's just the word everybody threw around. You know what I mean? It's the word everybody threw around.
And I was winning a bunch of games in Baltimore, but my stats were never going to like fly off the stat sheet and be like, oh, you know, look at Joe Blackwell. He threw for 350 yards and three touchdowns.
But we were winning games because, and we had a formula with how we won games. So I think that always kind of came in, that word always came up around me because it was like, okay, he's winning a lot of football games here and he is playing good football.
But at the same time, it's not like he's throwing for 350 and four touchdowns every week like some of these other guys. So it was one of those things that was like, can we call him that or not? And then he kind of came that thing.
It became the unanswerable question. You are.
Yeah, so it was one of those things that was like can we call him that or not and then he kind of came that thing it became the unanswerable question you are you're what happened what happened joe was it was like it was right around the time you're right and somebody talked about it on espn somebody brought it up one time and then it felt like for the next two years as they were talking about your contract you would always be like well do you want to pay him is he elite it just became like a catchphrase that got attached to you and then i sought out to answer the unanswerable question and going on 13 years here i still i still don't know but i think that you are wait wait hold on well the funny thing is is now people could like listen i have buddies wearing the sweatshirt because they're like yeah damn right he's elite and i got and i have detractors that are probably out there saying that are out there probably using it as kind of like one of those like kind of like a meme a joke you know they're joking about the fact that i am so it kind of goes both ways um but you are yeah and listen at the end of the day it's like it's it's a story it's somebody it's something to talk about and i have a lot of fun with it it i'm always laughing my buddy picked me up from my buddy. I was going out to California.

I forget what I was doing.

I was visiting Pitta, Dennis Pitta, for some reason.

And he had a couple people from his agency pick me up in the car.

And they had some elite meter that they picked me up with,

with my face on it.

And they just got the biggest kick out of it.

I wonder who made that one.

Yeah, PFT made that.

But it is an answerable question.

PFT is just putting on real nice. He's being humble.
– is Joe Flacco elite PFT? He won a Super Bowl. There it is.
That's all you have to say. That's it.
You're like, I won a Super Bowl. End scene.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. You know you're elite.
For us – There's more to it than that. No, no, that's it.

It's as simple as could be.

You got to ring. On the Super Bowl.

Flags fly forever.

Yeah.

So, like, the whole debate about that, for us, it was more about making fun of the people

in the media that actually used that word and made, you know, like two years worth of

content about it.

It's like, it's a meaningless title that you're assigned to a guy.

And I heard that you had gotten sick of people saying that to you.

So, I felt personally bad. I just wanted to reach out and be like, Joe, I i'm just we're just bringing this up all the time because we're making fun of them right we're using yeah no i listen i was never sick of it like i said i if people are having fun with it then i'm all for it man um it's just i probably felt the same way that you guys feel about it like we're still talking about this stupid little like thing that we're just trying to label random guys by it's just funny that you know how long people can talk about something for and and and usually they're using it to shit on you to some level you know what i mean so like but like but who cares like that is what it is man that's part of it it's it's what makes it kind of fun yeah it's the quintessential we have nothing to talk about in August.
Let's tier the quarterbacks and call the top tier elite. That's literally it.
That's sports media. Like, hey, we don't have anything to talk about.
All right, who's elite this year? But you did win a Super Bowl, so you are elite. Yeah, people forget that.
That's a fact. That's a fact.
So our good friend, I think you've seen his work, Stavros, big Joe Flacco guy. He's a good friend of ours.
He He's been on the show a bunch What do you think about his videos? I mean, he loves you Just a certain way you throw that spiral Something about Flacco Yeah, listen, he's awesome I'm going to have to make an effort To get to one of his shows This offseason for sure. I just watched his special, but I was watching it by myself.
I want to go out there and actually have the full experience. But he's unbelievable.
And as you can imagine, everybody in my life sends me every single video that he's ever had. So I see them all, and they're awesome.
Yeah. I mean, Savros is a huge fan.'m sure that it would make his day probably his life just hearing that you're you want to come to one of his shows you have to go to one yeah you'll go you'll love it so good he's a big time uh the you know the baltimore camo pants the ones that ravens fans i you know what so he was he must have been on the sideline at a game recently and um chad steel who uh works in baltimore uh he's in their media uh he kind of he's running the show over there had a picture with him on the sideline and sent it to me and he was wearing the he was wearing the camo pants he had i think he had the his ed reed jersey on it he was going strong yeah that's that's the most lamar or this it's the most uh baltimore outfit that you can possibly yeah what what do i need to know about the camo pants because i have have a future on the Ravens, and someone sent me the camo pants, so I think I'm going to have to wear them on a live stream if they get to the AFC Championship game.
Do I have to fight someone? I'm not really sure to be honest with you. You have to ask him.
I feel like I do. I feel like I've got to just get in a little bit of a tussle.
It is the one thing that Ravens fans, they're known for across the league. Like Pittsburgh, yeah, you've got the terrible towel, but you don't have the black, gray, and purple camouflage pants.
The best camouflage out there. It's badass, yeah.
All right, so who's the best player you ever played with? Or like could be offense or defense, but guy who like was just different. You watched and was just different.
Listen, I mean, that's easy. about okay not ray lewis not ray lewis yeah can i say ed reed yeah would ed reed pick you off in practice like all the time i wouldn't say all the time uh ed was incredible man he was so fun to watch he He was the best.
It was like, you know what, like, so you grow up playing on the schoolyard or in your backyard or wherever you're playing, and you're playing defense, and you know you've got a guy covered, but you're leaving him open by a couple yards just so the quarterback throws the ball to him. And then as soon as you see him go throw the ball, you go pick it off.
And every kid that can kind of play a little bit, they do that. They just have a knack for going and picking the ball off or going and making sure they make the catch.
And Ed Reed was doing those things in NFL games. I swear to God, he was leaving the guys just slightly.
He knew where he could be on the field to get the guy to throw the ball and that he would

be able to get there and make the pick.

You just expected pick sixes from him every game.

It became

that crazy.

I think he sat out the first six games of one

year, started on the pup list, and then he

still had eight picks.

Who knows how many of those were for touchdowns?

A team would be driving on you

and the next thing you would know, he'd go 100 yards on an interception return.

They'd be tossing it back and forth to each other the whole way down the field.

It was – he was incredible just because he was such a good athlete.

I always tell this story, and I think it's true.

Darren Sproles caught a touchdown pass against us in San Diego out of the backfield.

He kind of just ran a little rail route out of the backfield and went like 80 yards for a touchdown. And a couple series later, Ed Reed's like cover two safety on the left side of the field, and Darren Sproles is coming out of the backfield on the right side of the field.
Ed's supposed to be way back deep. And now, like, I don't exactly know what defense our defense was in there, but I'm pretty sure that's what it was.
And Ed beelines towards Darren Sprouls on the complete other side of the field, nowhere near where he's supposed to be. And in this case, Vincent Jackson ended up catching a touchdown on the deep part of that side of the field.
Now, I could be, like I said, I don't know exactly what our defense was playing. Maybe I'm making this up to a certain extent of him freestyling back there.
But that's what he was, man. He saw something.
He made decisions, and he went and did it. And, I mean, he's just such an unbelievable football player.
There's an all-time clip of Belichick breaking down film with Tom Brady, and they're watching an Ed Reed play where he was baiting the quarterback and doing something because he'd put something on film earlier that season. So it was like, they were like doing like three layers of deception on each other.
I think Belichick called it the best play they've ever seen out of any player. Yeah.
Yeah. He was just so good at naturally doing that stuff.
He just had that feel. Yeah.
There was one great, well, you probably won't think that it's a great series, but one of the most memorable series when I think of Joe Flacco, I think of I believe it was 2015, and it was against the Rams. And that's when you hurt your knee.
You tore your ACL. Did you tear your MCL too, or was it just the ACL? Yeah, the MCL was shot.
I got that repaired too. So the final drive of that game, you played what the last three plays with a torn ACL and MCL to win the game.
Did you ever think about coming out of the game at all? Or were you like, no, keep me in. We have a field goal drive to finish here.
So, you know, I'd hurt my MCL a couple times, you know, before that. And you're always kind of curious, man, did I just tear my knee uh what did i just do you know and this time i knew i was like okay that's what a torn knee feels like um you know you could kind of feel the mcl get pushed in and the acl just kind of felt like a million bursts it just felt like my knee blew up so i remember thinking like okay you're not gonna be able to do much here like just get up i up and get off the field.
Like don't stay down. So I hop up and I start kind of like hopping on it, just kind of testing it out.
And I'm, as I'm kind of half going to the sideline and I'm like, okay, it's not that bad. It's just, you know, I know I tore my knee, but I can still kind of move and walk and kind of run on it a little bit.
And we were near field goal range. I think I just handed the ball off a couple couple more times i had just thrown a slant and i was standing in the pocket for like you know if the play was way over i i stand i was standing in the pocket kind of just thinking all right the play's over and then boom i got kind of caved in on um so i kind of let my guard down a little bit and that's when it got hurt but yeah i just ended up handing the ball off for a couple more plays and i walked to the sideline and said guys i just tore my knee i kind of went into the locker room and right after we kicked the field goal to win and that was it yeah crazy tough crazy but you know yeah tough ass tough motherfucker are you a tough motherfucker you are i i i still probably didn't want my family making fun of me for laying on the field and you know and i'm like you know i don't know if i should say it here but it's a popular word in our family and i don't want to get in trouble but i didn't want to be a pussy yeah i got you i'll clean you up for you you didn't say it i did our philly guy max says it all the time we understand that yeah we got a philly guy who he it's like the every other word out of his mouth so don't worry yeah it's like for whatever reason it was like the one word that when we were like seven years old, we got away with a sign in our house.
It's not a question. Like, yeah, my son's a man now.
I also like the fact that like mild-mannered, very nice Joe Flacco is surrounded by a bunch of haters that will call him pussies. Even your kids tell you that you stink.
Yeah, you're just like, you know what? Yeah, that's right. It's you against the world, Joe.
Yeah. All right.
So I got a couple last questions. One was the famous, I alluded alluded to it earlier the bet on yourself here where you win a super bowl was there any moment before that where your agent was like hey joe this is a lot of money like we should probably take this deal and you're like nah i'm about to go win the super bowl like don't you worry i think at some point he probably had that thought process but by the time i got to the the end, he was fully, I'll give him credit.
He was fully with me. You know, he was.
And because I think some people were thinking, man, like, what the hell is your agent doing? And I was like, dude, my agent's doing what I'm telling him to do. Like, I don't want it.
You know, it is what it is. Listen, people, it's funny the way that it's, it's not funny funny it's crazy the way it all worked out i mean

i didn't think it required winning a super bowl to get paid i mean obviously today look it doesn't you know if you're the if you're the quarterback of the franchise you get paid i mean that just is what it is um uh in my first four years we had been to the afc championship game twice. It was like, from my standpoint, it was like, why would I take that when that's not necessarily what the rate is? It wasn't like a bet on myself thing.
It was like, I can't do that. And it wasn't about the money it was it was just about like being respected for the quarterback that i felt like i was um and i think you know i think there is probably an obligation to some extent as a quarterback to get as much as you can for the guys that are coming behind you but like you know ultimately that doesn't matter yeah um i just didn't i never really looked at it as betting on myself i just looked at it it was like common sense decision you know like this is what i could have or this or this is what i should get and it it wasn't like i said it really was a common sense decision i think most people that felt that feel like they're good at something if they were presented with that situation would make the same decision.
I just felt like to me, it just kind of made sense. And it is funny the way it's crazy, the way it worked out.
But that's how that's just kind of what happened. I don't know if it would have changed the outcome in terms of like three years after two years after that, three after that who knows what would have happened yeah good um yeah it was one of the best bets ever like in sports history there you go it really was a great bet again yeah yeah it's you know also it's it's once again it's one of those things that people can make a good story and say hey joe black will bet on himself how crazy is that but you know i didn't do it that way did Did you ever think about leaving Baltimore after that season? Was that in the equation at all? No, no, I don't think it ever got that far.
I didn't want to do that. I, you know, I'm a pretty loyal person.
And just in terms of general, like, you know, in everything, you know, so my mind doesn't go there. I don't, I don't really want to go there.
Um, you know, I, I love that place and that city's incredible. Uh, such an unbelievable football town.
The fact that it took as long as it did to get a football team back there after the Colts left, uh, is crazy to me just because I think if you can go, I think you can go to a game there every each and every week and see how special it is. Yeah.
I'd imagine you're rooting for them. That's your pick to win the Super Bowl.
I'm not rooting for anybody, man. When you're not the guy in it, man, it's like, oh, my God, who do I root for here? Why do I have to root for anybody? I think they are.
I mean, look at them. I mean, they're 13-4.
They're rolling. When I looked at them in the beginning of the year, when I was watching them in the beginning of the year, they were winning football games and everybody was like, oh yeah, they're the Ravens.
They didn't look like they had put it all together yet, to be honest with you. They just, you know, yeah, they were scoring points, but like it was, you know, it just wasn't, I don't think it was necessarily the best yet,

but, man, the last third of the season or so,

they just really seemed to put it together in every little facet of the game.

And they are looking good.

They're looking like the best right now.

So they're going to be tough to beat for sure.

All right, so in terms of a headline grab,

you already said that you wanted to keep playing,

that you got the confidence back.

And we saw that the arm's very much still there.

You can still play.

Do you want to come back to Cleveland next year?

Man, Cleveland was unbelievable.

I'm definitely open to be back in Cleveland.

At the same point, I don't want to rush to any decisions either.

I mean, I didn't know what the market for QBs was going to look like last spring, and I don't know what it's going to look like this spring. So I don't know if I'm going to have options or if I'm going to have zero options, you know, I, I'm, I love Cleveland though.
I love the building, the people, everything about it. I think, you know, it's funny when you go from, you know, when when you when you get to see a few different organizations and then you go to cleveland and you know i don't think people really you don't think you ever hear too many like oh man cleveland's an awesome organization and they've done this well done that well but i can't say enough good things about how that organization is being run right now and and and the atmosphere in the building and the way that guys feel like their future's headed.

So I think it would be a very special place to be

if I have the opportunity to go back there.

Yeah. All right.
So I got one last question.

It's a rowback question.

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Rowback.com., promo code TAKE. One thing I respected out of you, Joe, is that you voiced your displeasure for the Wildcat offense and how stupid it is.
How stupid did you feel when they made you stand out wide just standing out there? Because the Wildcat offense was great for the one year that the Dolphins did it and it took everyone by surprise. Now teams run it and it's like they never even, there's no pass option.
It's just a run. So like, you're not confusing anyone.
You're just taking the ball out of your quarterback's hands. You know, I think when I express my displeasure for it, I probably wouldn't do it the same way today.
You know, I think sometimes, you know, personal things get in the way of, you know, other things. It probably wasn't the most important thing to like express my distaste for it.
And, you know, like sometimes that's what you do. That's how you react in the moment.
You know, maybe you look back and maybe, ah, maybe that's not how I should have handled it, but it is. Um, at the same time, if you're going to do it, just take me off the field.
Right. You know, like, like let's, let's get an actual football player here.
Um, so that we can actually accomplish something for real. Um, so yeah, it is what it is.
Like I said, I think at this point, Hey, if that's what we want to do, all right, it's going to help us win. All right going to help us win all right let's do it um at the moment i probably didn't quite feel that way um so yeah i i said it i stood with you like it never made you're absolutely right if you have to run the wildcat let your quarterback get off the field put another wide receiver out there someone who can block like you're gonna run it so why are you why are we playing these games it makes no sense yeah yeah you get a quarterback up in your face it's like trying to jam you at the line of scrimmage yeah i don't need this shit yeah yeah believe me that's why when i when i go out there i i stay like five yards off the ball so there's no chance of me looking like an idiot they're gonna come up and surprise me and like i'm gonna act like a little baby i'm gonna act like it's i'm gonna act like somebody just corner and scared me.
Like that's the last thing that's going to happen to me. I'm not saying it couldn't happen to me.
Like they could embarrass me big time. That's why I don't even leave it up.
I don't even leave it up in the air for it to happen. Yeah.
I have one last, last question. Thank you, Joe.
This has been awesome. It's so much fun.
It's been a long time coming. We hope we have you back on.
You're going to be great in media, by the way. When you decide to do that, you're going to be really good.
Yeah, but you're a good-looking guy. Yeah, you're hot.
No offense, but you're a good-looking guy. I don't want to be good.
I don't want to do that. No, you are.
When you get the little beard going, the little 5 o'clock shadow, you're hot. You know.
You're literally hot. It was one year Joe got a makeover.
He came to camp looking all different. Yeah.
Looking like a grown-ass man. That was a good year, Joe.
Guys got to pump each other up in 2024. You're a good-looking to say I appreciate it all right so my last last question um at your farthest how far could you throw a football oh right around 75 yards maybe a little bit more a little bit more a little bit less on a given day um but yeah I don't I don't know if that's happening anymore when I was coming out of college, I worked on throwing the ball far, because it was fun.
Nowadays, I don't really make it a priority, but I could still go throw it out through the goal post from the 50-yard line, maybe the opposite 45. That's awesome.
Love it. I love watching you throw passes.
Well, Joe, thank you, been – we wanted to have you on for a very long time, and it didn't disappoint at all. So hopefully we get to keep watching you play football.
And like PFT said, love to have you back on anytime. Yeah.
I love it, fellas. I appreciate it.
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That's forthepeople.com slash PMT, or pound law's pound 529 from your cell phone that's for the people.com slash pmt or pound law pound 529 from your cell this is a paid advertisement all right let's wrap it up another great week that was awesome having joe flacco on he's the best yeah love joe he's definitely going to come back on i just was smiling ear to ear having him on uh henry fire fest of the week yes uh my fire fest i guess not really a fire fest it's not that serious but i was naive or kind of forgot about how uh how crazy some people can be on online uh-huh i obviously happened years ago a couple years ago i i was in a public relationship we had breakup dealing with all the, you know, kind of crazy people coming out of the woodwork and saying stuff was a lot. So I have actively avoided, you know, putting anything out there for the last three years, keeping the private life private.
But this I thought was, you know, the Tiffany thing going to Dallas was, it was, it was content. It was show content.-in-cheek.
Obviously, I like spending time with her. But...
Who's tongue? People online just take it way too far. They say crazy things, and they kind of ruin the fun for everyone.
Oh, no. What did people say? People were just sending egregious messages, saying...
Not... Well...
People were just saying crazy stuff and just kind of taking the fun out of it that's how i would describe it should we do a just just chill out man yeah yeah i mean it's more just like it's more i i i should have known going into it that this was probably going to be the outcome yeah um but i will definitely be going back to to zero dark private life mode zero dark henry yeah. I like that.
Because it's fun. I enjoy it, and 99% of the people are fun.
They play along. It's all good banter, but then there's the 1% of people, people that will DM and just go way over the top.
That's the internet. That's all I'll say.
Yeah, right. My fire process, I was naive.
You forgot. Maybe blinded.
I was blinded a little bit. Yeah, you forgot the internet is the internet.
Yeah. Especially guys, it's a little different.
Girls, sometimes it gets a lot quickly. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. But yeah, that is my Firefest.
But you still had a fun week. I had a great week.
That is also the other part. It kind of, you know, they ruined it for the people.

They ruined it for me.

No, no, no, no.

It's the memories you have.

True.

Yeah.

That hole in the wall will always be there.

What is it saying?

Like the memories, how you keep your memories.

Take only pictures, leave only footprints.

Keep all those memories in the spank bank.

Is that the saying?

Take only pictures, leave only leg imprints. Yeah.
That's good. I like that.
And everything else goes in the spank bank is that the saying take only pictures leave only leg imprints yeah that's good

i like that and everything else goes in the spank bank sure

i i'm i'm rooting for you hank to find love thank you if that's what you want yeah if you

don't want it then don't i'm rooting for you doesn't want love i'm rooting for you to find

love and and not tell anybody about it yeah yeah well that's unfortunately what's what will happen

Thank you. Yeah, if you don't want it, then don't.
I'm rooting for you to find love and not tell anybody about it.

Yeah.

Yeah, well, that's unfortunately what will happen.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, you'll find it.

Sure.

Hank's single, ladies.

I'm not.

I'm not.

Without the press release.

You're not?

I'm not anything.

Oh, you're not.

You're nothing.

Oh, we're not talking about it.

That's right.

That's right.

My bad.

My bad.

My bad.

Hank's just Hank. Hank is Hank.
and he's a he's a catch a hundred percent if i was on the market if he was on the market and if he's not then leave him alone but if he is then go get some i like this new mysterious hank yeah yeah the man of mystery i like this okay well yeah good good reminder that the internet is the internet. I'm sorry that that happened to you or Tiff.
Sounds like it might have happened more to Tiff. No.
Not naming names. Yeah.
Okay. PFT.
Yeah. I had a pretty clean week this week.
I don't have a lot to complain about besides the cold, which continues to affect me in various ways that I never thought possible. First, door got frozen shut to the ground which i didn't think could happen uh and then it was so cold outside the other day that my car told me it was being broken into and so i just looked at my car and they were like warning do not approach your car there might be somebody breaking into it i just looked outside at my car and i was like no um just the cold it's just it's just really cold the to break.
Yeah. Jack Frost broke into the car.
So yeah, besides that, I've had a pretty clean week overall. I am developing too much of an obsession with tracking flights online.
So that's the one thing that I can do. And I love the flight tracking culture that gets built up around, especially college football.
It's so good. I say that like if if uh you had these college

message boards on 9-11 those planes would be grounded like immediately because the people

that are able to track flights on flight aware are so fucking good at it um so i've been i've

been dealing my flight tracking obsession and i also downloaded a uh a flight simulator to my

phone now hell yeah which i've been using everywhere that i go and that's become more

of a problem for me because you quickly realize i'll like look up from my phone and be like Well, that was an hour and a half of me playing a flight simulator.

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And then people will be like, well, what did you accomplish in the last hour and a half of playing this flight simulator on your phone? And I'll be like, well, I got 700 Ace coins. They're like, oh, what is an Ace coin? Well, with that many Ace coins, I can buy this many pieces of silver.
Oh, with that silver, what do you get do you get oh i get to buy this many pieces of gold so basically i've installed crypto in my own brain and then you can get them you get the pop-up that's like for a flash deal 49.99 you can get a thousand pieces of silver i do i do it with all those phone games and i just spend like 200 bucks i'm like what the fuck am i doing between me and you i i did the flash deal the other day of course i was like i was like wait i can get a plane that has a nuclear tipped rocket on it i want to fucking nuke i want to nuke somebody every time i do the the uh sim golf or whatever it's called the the uh fuck what is it they have all these games pixel pro yeah golf i've done the winter olympics yeah it's those are the best you buy new skis yeah it only cost me 20 bucks this is my floppy dunk. This is my first in-app purchase of my life on a game.
Oh, man. I wish I could say the same.
I'm going back for more, baby. I've probably spent thousands of dollars on in-app purchases being like, yeah, give me this.
Okay. Oh, I can get new clubs.
Oh, I can throw it faster in this football game. Oh, great.
I'm thinking about going home tonight. I'm going to get an F-16.
I'm going to get an F-22. I'm going to get that nuclear tip missile for sure.
And yeah, I'm just going to fill my hangar, my online internet hangar, which is not real. Don't, little tip, as someone who's done a lot of the in-game purchases, don't buy them all because you want to keep yourself having something you can love.
Yeah, I want to earn some of this. Yeah, because once you buy it all, then you're like, wait, I just spent a a hundred bucks and now i beat the game i got off to such a good start in this game too so i was getting all these airplanes i was getting all these upgrades just through my own skill and i told myself i'm not gonna buy any coins why i'm not some fucking loser i'm a good pilot and i'm gonna be able to earn them on my own and then somehow i don't know if they did this on purpose but somehow after you achieve a little bit of initial success, it gets a lot harder to get the next airplanes.
Yeah. And then you're like, well, now I got to buy these fucking airplanes.
So yeah, my brain's become part of the algorithm right now. Yeah.
That's, it happens. It happens.
All right. My fire fest is I had an all time, all time mind fuck on Sunday.
I took my son to a birthday party for one of his classmates, years old the kid was turning and i got in my car i looked at the calendar uh to see where the birthday party was and i was like huh i kind of recognize this go to the birthday party walk in and it was my apartment that i lived in with four of my friends 16 years ago. Whoa.
My exact apartment. I was sitting in my exact apartment from 16 years ago, and it was like I was just sitting there watching a magician with my four-and-a-half-year-old with all his friends.
Then we went to their playroom. Their playroom was my bedroom from 16 years ago.
It's your playroom. Yeah, it was my playroom.
It was the room that I think I've told the story before. Did they renovate it? Was it the one that you flooded? No, it was one of my roommates did flood the upstairs.
He got drunk and fell asleep when he tried to draw a bath for himself and he fell asleep. It was like a fucking inch and a half of water.
This is the apartment that I've told the story when we tried to get one of my buddies to drink an entire bottle of malort before the soup bowl and then he puked everywhere in the house including in my bedroom that was the bedroom i was sitting in watching my son play with his friends and i was just like how the fuck did i get here yeah it's pretty wild it was renovation level they redid the the basement wasn't carpet it was like it looked nice like it was when we got it it was like me and four of my buddies and it was like we trashed it it looked i actually asked the owner because i was like i used to live here and they're like what they're like here i was like literally right here and they're like oh yeah someone bought the apartment complex like a few years ago and put a bunch of money into it so it looked way nicer but i was sitting in my bedroom at least they hadn't seen your direct result correct like you lived here correct yeah damn bitch you live here yeah i mean 16 years a long year long time but yeah it was it was a complete mindfuck just sitting there like again watching a magician with my four and a half year old it's like when you go into elementary school and you're like wait this is small right like why is it so small it was just like like yeah and like even little things like uh my son was like i gotta go to the bathroom i was like well i know where it is like i lived here you look around around the room you start crying and they're like oh are you watching your son play no i'm just thinking about the time i won 10 consecutive games with beer pong right over the corner yes it was that type of apartment yes there should be there should be a carfax for apartments where you can find out the injury report tenants yeah yeah on the tenants that were there previously so you know exactly what what kind of bedroom was this yeah there was some yeah we did some shit in there what do you say i still get a lot of my old i get i have my mailbox gets two people's Some of them change. Do I open these? I kind of want to know a little bit about them.
No. I can kind of gather.
I haven't. Federal crime.
Federal crime. But it's like it keeps showing up.
Yeah. And some of them are like, open this.
He brings it to the front desk. Yeah.
Or just throw it out. That's what I've been doing.
My old... Mail, it will find you.

They'll figure out that they're sending the wrong people

and then they'll find you. Do return to sender

on it. Send it back to them.
I always

just leave other people's mail in my

mailbox. I take my mail and

then I put the other mail back in the mailbox.

So your mailbox just became full?

I have a pretty big mailbox. I don't get a lot of mail.

I probably check my mail maybe once a

month. Same.
Mail is so stupid. Those years.
Packages are what is. Yeah.
Packages. Mail.
Anything in an envelope. Dumbest thing in the world.
Send an email. How big is your box, Max? It's a big box.
Box of the year? Oh, yeah. Mailbox.
M-A-L-E-B-O-X. Oh, yeah.
It's a wide set box. It's a wide set box.
It's a wide set box. Throw them in there.
Yeah. My place in Austin that I used to live at,

the last house that I had there,

I got a DM from somebody.

This was like a year and a half,

two years ago,

with a picture of my mail

that was addressed to that house.

There's an AWL that lives in my own house.

Oh, shit.

My old house in Austin right now.

It's a mind fuck.

It is.

It's very weird.

In school,

do you guys remember when you have to sign

that it's your textbook

and you would see who would have it

the years before? And you would know them. You're like, whoa.
I would fuck with people. I would put like Nolan Ryan.
And then a couple years later, wait, Nolan Ryan went here? That's wild. Just three years before.
Yeah. Yeah.
One time I just put your mom as my name. Just owned everybody that had that textbook later.
Got him. All right, Jake, finish this off.
Yeah, so my hotel room last weekend, it reeked of weed. Oh, no.
It was really bad. Oh, that's so bad.
Just call the cops? No, I went back downstairs and got a new room. That's like, what? Wait, wait, you did? Yeah.
What'd you say? It felt really bad. Weed's a great smell.
Not to live in. Nah, I kind of like it.
Was it your room specifically or like the hallway? No, the room. Is there a list of previous tenants of that room and Hank had just just checked out hank we were in for water last week did the front door january did the uh concierge are like you're a loser they were probably thinking it but like i don't care i like the smell of weed i mean it's better than cigarettes cigarettes might be my least favorite smell of all time i'd have your back if you moved cigarettes but weed it's like kind of get like a contact eye yeah like pfc you invited us to the uh sigs and sidebar and i just i couldn't do

it I'd have your back if you moved cigarettes, but we just kind of get a contact eye. PFC, you invited us to the Cigson sidebar, and I couldn't do it.
Yeah, Max and I had a great time. Probably smoked like 40 cigarettes that night.
Yeah, I would die. Sorry, Mom.
But it's only because we're inside. We have to celebrate that.
Yeah, you got to celebrate. And your lungs regenerate.
We're not going to smoke out. The cold air cleans it out.
I smoke cigarettes to quit vaping and it actually worked. It's a great way to quit like a jewel.
Smoke analog cigarettes. What do you think are the best smoke smells? I would put pipes as number one.
Remember we had a pipe phase? I had a pipe phase in college. We were smoking pipes in my apartment.
That smelled bad. I would say pipes one, weed two, cigs three, cigars.
Cigars are terrible. Don't those jewel pens have like cotton candy? Well, yeah, but that smoke doesn't linger.
It dissipates. Yeah, it's like vape.
Not anymore, actually. Cigars are really bad.
Thanks to Obama. They banned all the flavors.
Yeah. Great job, Barack.
I have a chocolate factory right outside my apartment. Oh, I smell that.
Yeah, it smells so good. It's the best.
I told Memes that he was dropping me off the other day, and he was like, what do you mean? I'm like, literally, they're just making chocolate. If you put your window down, you can smell it.
I'm talking about it every day since. Yeah.
You can smell it far away, away too sometimes, like in the summer.

Max, did that have anything to do with why you chose that apartment?

I mean, that's the biggest difference from New York. Like that was the biggest difference I realized from New York to here

was that like when I walked outside of my apartment in New York, it was shit.

Yeah.

And I walked out and I was like, it just smells like cookies.

Now you live in Willy Wonka, yeah.

It'd be funny if everybody in Max's apartment were, if they were big boys.

That'll happen.

Listen, no, Max and I are lifting.

Yeah.

We're crushing it.

I just said big.

I said big, like powerful.

We're going to... Willy Wonka, yeah.
It'd be funny if everybody in Max's apartment were, if they were big boys, that'll happen. Listen, no, Max and I are lifting.

Yeah.

We're crushing it.

I just said big.

I said big, like powerful.

We're on week three of our lifting regimen.

Me and Max lifted, did I?

Yeah, I lifted a couple days ago.

I saw you.

I started lifting.

You were taking weight off, though, when Max was done.

You guys are strong.

Oh, okay.

I don't judge.

Hank, we lifted before you went down to Texas.

Yeah, we did.

Got a big pump in.

Sure did.

Jim.

All right.

Eight.

Forty.

No.

Fall starts.

I fall starts.

I fall starts.

Everyone want to take eight?

Forty.

Eighteen.

I'll take 71.

Twenty.

Twenty.

Memes?

Three.

Pug?

Ninety-nine Pug.

Eight. All right? 99 Pug.
8.

You get 8.

84.

84.

Second time.

84.

Love you guys. Bye.
Thank you. I'll be back.
Take me. Take me.

I'll be.