Arnold Schwarzenegger, Week 17 Picks And Preview + Should We Feel Bad For Russ And Browns Are In The Playoffs

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Speaker 4 On today's part of my take, we have an awesome interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Probably a lifelong dream for me and PFT to get him on the show.

Speaker 4 It was via Zoom, but I think we have a future date where we're maybe going to go to LA and lift with him. So very, very fun interview.
When is like, I just had a smile on my face the entire time.

Speaker 4 We're also going to do picks and preview for week 17. It's just me and PFT again because it is a vacation week.

Speaker 4 It's going to be abbreviated. We're going to fire through the games.
So, we're ready to roll. We have the Arizona Bowl.
We're both in Arizona right now. We're at the Arizona Bowl on Saturday.

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Speaker 4 And let's get into it.

Speaker 4 Let's get into everything.

Speaker 1 We have Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 4 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, December 29th.
And PFT, Joe Flacco is elite.

Speaker 7 He is fucking elite. And the Cleveland Browns clinch a playoff spot.
And watching this game,

Speaker 7 the thought occurred to me: what if we had a Browns Lions Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 How cool would that be? Well, we'd be out of a lot of money. That's what we'd have.

Speaker 7 I'm willing to sacrifice that just for the good of America. I think our country needs something like that, the battle for Lake Erie.

Speaker 4 I think we're also in a spot where like that's getting ahead of ourselves a little bit.

Speaker 4 If we just get Stafford versus the Lions and Flacco versus the Ravens, that would be pretty nice, like in terms of storyline

Speaker 4 and drama. Yeah, one thing at a time.
Let's go baby steps to that. But yes, the Browns clinch a playoff spot.
Good for them.

Speaker 4 Incredible season. They've been like the most injured team, it feels like.

Speaker 4 And like we, we've talked about it pretty much every single week, the roller coaster of their season where they've had big win followed by big injury, followed by big win, followed by big injury over and over and over again.

Speaker 4 Joe Flacco is their starting quarterback. And I feel so much more confident about the Cleveland Browns in 2023 than if Deshaun Watson had played the whole season.

Speaker 4 I can't believe I'm saying that sentence, but I fully believe it.

Speaker 4 Like, I think, Joe, if you're a Browns fan and you know the history of your franchise and you know how this season has gone, Joe Flacco, with how he's playing right now, is the perfect guy for this because you can basically say to yourself, like, what if he just gets hot?

Speaker 7 He's done it before.

Speaker 4 What if he just gets hot?

Speaker 7 We know that he can do it.

Speaker 4 Why not with this team?

Speaker 7 And he's hot right now. He's so hot.
And he had, there was one very funny moment.

Speaker 7 I don't know if you're watching the Prime Vision broadcast, but our good friend Sam Schwartzein, he started doing like a picture in picture talking about Joe Flacco, whether or not he's elite.

Speaker 7 He's like, yes, by our advanced metrics, they created like all these advanced saber metrics to determine whether or not a quarterback is elite or not. And then Sam is like.

Speaker 7 We've debated this for, it feels like 12 years now, but I can say that right now, Joe Flacco, yes, he is an elite quarterback.

Speaker 7 Half a second later, he does the pick six where he's falling backwards and like two pump fakes, gets taken back to the end zone. It was a very funny moment on live TV.

Speaker 7 But the way that Flacco is playing right now, and he did it today without Amari Cooper. So last week, Amari Cooper set records in terms of like how many yards he had.

Speaker 7 He was just like dominating every single ball in the air. And then this week, it's like, you know what?

Speaker 7 I'm just going to throw the ball to David Njoku a hundred times in the first half, and we're not going to miss a beat. And yeah, the Browns, like,

Speaker 7 I put a bet on them about a month month ago, 50 to 1. I'm feeling better about that bet than I am about my Bills bet right now.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, the Browns are hot. And it is really just like when you talk about hope, it's Joe Flacco.
Joe Flacco is, he trades in hope because you know that he has that in him somewhere.

Speaker 4 He is that guy. That's the whole conversation about when he got the big contract, when he won the Super Bowl, everything.
He is that, like, there is that guy inside of him.

Speaker 4 And there's a lot of quarterbacks in the league who might be better like week to week or more consistent, but they don't have that

Speaker 4 thing where you're like, but what if he just gets hot? It's a very Eli Manning-esque thing. And I was actually thinking about it, like, what if Joe Flacco wins?

Speaker 4 If Joe Flacco wins the Super Bowl with the Browns, he has to be a Hall of Favor, right? Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 7 And it would be, you know, it'd be perfect too. Former Baltimore Raven winning the Super Bowl with the Browns.
The Baltimore Ravens used to be the Cleveland Browns, took the franchise.

Speaker 7 Then Cleveland takes Baltimore's quarterback and wins one. That would be awesome.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's, it's set up perfectly. So I'm excited for the Bronson playoffs.

Speaker 7 I have a question for Max. Max, as an Italian, um, why don't you show Joe Flacco the respect that you show Tommy DeVito?

Speaker 4 Flacco doesn't sound as Italian as DeVito does.

Speaker 4 That's true. That's true.
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.

Speaker 7 His name ends in a vowel.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
It does end in a vowel. But Tommy DeVito sounds like a more Italian name.
It just does. It sounds like a fuckboy.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But yeah, Joe Flacco is is Joe Flacco in the Italian American Sports Hall of Fame.
He should be.

Speaker 7 He absolutely should be. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't know what it is.

Speaker 7 I guess he's like too steady, too even keeled. We need to celebrate Italians like Joe Flacco just as much as we celebrate Italians like Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 4 That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I'd agree.
I'd agree. Okay.
So. Let's get into the picks and preview for week 17.
So to set the stage, we are, like I said, this is technically a vacation week.

Speaker 4 So we're on Zoom.

Speaker 4 Hank and Jake are not here.

Speaker 4 We're on Zoom, not Riverside. So it sounds shitty, tweet at PFT and blame him because his computer had a corrupted file, which PFT,

Speaker 4 you weren't there for the very funny moment of Max and Evan and I were sitting on the Riverside waiting for you. And you texted me and Max being like, Max, it says there's a disk server corrupted.

Speaker 4 And Max and I were just like, Max doesn't know anything about computers. Yeah, I know.
Nothing.

Speaker 7 I just, I had to tell somebody.

Speaker 4 And I knew, like, what am I going to do?

Speaker 7 They'll be like, hey, big cat, my computer is a corrupted disk area right now. I knew that you had no answer for that.
So I just, I decided to put it on Max, and that way, maybe we could blame Max.

Speaker 7 But no, it's my fault. This is a computer I use for the dozen for a lot of stuff that we do.
And for whatever reason, sorry if it's on Zoom. I will take all of your complaints.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry. Yes, all complaints filed at PFT.
But just to set the stage, so people are aware. So this is the last show we'll do on Zoom.
Monday, you'll get an extra, extra long show.

Speaker 4 We'll be back in the studio.

Speaker 4 We'll obviously talk college football playoff at week 17, everything. Everyone will be back.
So, and the Arnold Schwarzenegger interview is very, very much worth it. We taped it like two weeks ago.

Speaker 4 So, we were together for that. So, fear not.
But we are going to do week, week 17 picks and preview.

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Speaker 4 Okay, PFT, week 17. First of all, fuck you to the NFL schedule makers.

Speaker 4 10 games in the early slate, three games in the afternoon. They basically were like, we're going to just try to scramble everyone's brain in the second to last big Sunday of the year.

Speaker 4 We do have a Saturday night game, but yeah, I looked at it and I started to count the games at that like one o'clock and then kickoff. And I was like, what, what is going on?

Speaker 4 Why do they have this many games?

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's a bad job. I would have much rather enjoyed like three games on Saturday again to try to do this.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes. So we have a lot of shitty games, but a couple of really, really good games.
Obviously a ton of playoff implications. So we're going to fire through them.
Let's start Saturday night.

Speaker 4 Detroit at Dallas. I think we're both very excited for this game.
This game, to me, comes down to just like, how big of a letdown spot for Detroit? That's really what it is.

Speaker 4 Like, will there be a letdown spot? That was obviously an emotional win winning the NFC North.

Speaker 4 Do they have a little setback from that? And also, Dallas kind of needs a win very badly right now. They're not, they're reeling a little bit.
They've lost two in a row.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and Dallas is what, seven and oh at home, and they're coming down off whatever the opposite of a letdown spot is. They kind of had a statement loss last week.

Speaker 7 We talked about it on Tuesday's part of my take where we said, in a weird way, the fraud bowl actually ended up making us like both teams a little bit more.

Speaker 7 So Dallas had a very emotional loss, but almost in a way that should light a fire under their ass last week. So

Speaker 7 I feel like they're going to be coming out swinging. It's also the Jimmy Johnson game, which has to count for something, right? We've waited 30 years for Jimmy Johnson to get into the ring of honor.

Speaker 7 They selected this weekend as the weekend Jerry Jones lets him in finally, which to me is more proof than anything that Jerry Jones is actually dead and that AI Jerry Jones is now running the show.

Speaker 7 But regardless, it'll be like an emotional Saturday night primetime game for the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 I think I like the Cowboys in this game.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you a question, though. How much emotion does the actual team care about Jimmy Johnson? I'd say zero.

Speaker 7 The stadium will care.

Speaker 4 The stadium will care. The team itself was probably like, okay, cool.

Speaker 4 We all weren't born when this happened.

Speaker 7 Any other team, I would say that that's probably true for. But with the Cowboys, you know that Jerry Jones is going to be talking to guys before the game.
He's the most hands-on owner.

Speaker 7 It's a big weekend for Jerry Jones, personally.

Speaker 4 But will he be talking like Jimmy Johnson? He'll be like, Jimmy Johnson, he was a real son of a bitch.

Speaker 4 He and I really didn't like each other. Well,

Speaker 7 I could also see it going the other way where the team is like, wow, Jerry's gotten soft. Yeah.
Letting Jimmy into the ring of fame. Like,

Speaker 7 I'm not afraid of this guy anymore. Like, I thought this was a dude that would hold a grudge against me for forever.

Speaker 4 Like,

Speaker 4 you guys think I hate Mike McCarthy? I really hated Jimmy Johnson. He was so much better than Mike McCarthy.
Just to tell you how it used to be. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 7 Well, I'm still going with the take that it's a big, big game for the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 7 It's a have-to-win game.

Speaker 4 And I also, like, I know this over is very, very high. And I know totals have come down all year in the NFL, but I'm I'm going to take this over because I don't know how either team stops the other.

Speaker 4 Like, it does feel like both teams are just going to do whatever they want offensively.

Speaker 7 I feel like the Cowboys are going to go back to running their zone defense that they normally run. They didn't do it last week because

Speaker 7 you can't really play man-to-man against Tyreek Hill. That's just an impossible thing to do.

Speaker 7 But I feel like they'll go back to their old defense this week.

Speaker 7 I could see the Cowboys

Speaker 7 holding the Lions to 20 points, 23 points.

Speaker 4 Well, I really do think like there's, I know there's, you can't say letdown spots exist the same way in the NFL as they do in college football, but it has to be. Like, you just won the NFC North.

Speaker 4 You don't think the Lions partied and like took a big sigh of relief after this? And now the weird part is the Lions, like weirdly, can still get the one seed, which I didn't even realize.

Speaker 4 So they are still playing for a lot, but.

Speaker 4 uh there just has to be a letdown i can't i'm convinced that they're they're like you you do something that no team no lions team has done in the history of the franchise and also secure a home playoff game for the first time in 30 years.

Speaker 4 Like, everyone's human. If I did something like that, I'd take the fucking next three months off.
Like, job well done.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's going to be us after the Schwarzenegger interview comes out.

Speaker 4 See ya.

Speaker 7 We just did something great, accomplished a 30-year goal of ours. Peace.
I'm out for a week.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'll say it this way. If the Lions manage to go to Dallas and beat the Cowboys, I'm going to upgrade them to potential Super Bowl NFCT.

Speaker 7 Right now, I'm still like, I need the defense. And Justin Houston coming back in the next couple of weeks is going to be big for them, I think.
And CeeDee Deuce isn't back yet.

Speaker 7 So they're going to get better on defense.

Speaker 7 But right now, I still kind of have that thing that you saw like two months ago where you're like, I don't really trust the defense against a good offensive team.

Speaker 7 So if they're able to come out there and beat the Cowboys, I might. I might put them into my trust column.

Speaker 4 It's not even a good offensive team. I mean, look, Nick Mullins Mullins had 400 yards against him.

Speaker 4 I know that there was four turnovers, but it was also like Hawkinson and Addison had to be out for the season for the Lions to start getting stops. It's just, that's how all their games go.

Speaker 4 They're just, they're just going to give up big leads. They're going to get big leads.
They're going to like, it's just going to be a, it's be honest football to watch. But yeah, I just, we'll see.

Speaker 4 If they can, if they can slow down the Cowboys at all, I would agree with you. I'll, I'll, I'll have to upgrade them.

Speaker 7 This is a trust game for me.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 It's a trust game for the Lions. And if the Cowboys win, I'm probably just going to be like, yeah, the Cowboys weren't home again.
Big deal.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Okay.
Next game, Sunday, best game. Dolphins, Ravens, literally for the one seed.

Speaker 4 Obviously,

Speaker 4 either team could lose in week 18, and then that would, you know, be out the window.

Speaker 4 Like, well, actually, no, if the Dolphins won this week and then lost in week 18, the Ravens would then have the one seed because they have obviously one less loss than them right now.

Speaker 4 That hard knocks clip of Tyree Kill and Tua when he was talking, he pretended to talk to Braxon Berrios, which we love Braxton Berrios.

Speaker 4 He's a friend of the program, been on the show, Thirst Trap King. That's got to kind of suck where like you're like, you know, it's like the biggest play of the game.

Speaker 4 And he's like, he's like, all right, Reek, no one look at Reek. Let me just look at Braxon Berrios and just pretend that he's going to get the ball, even though

Speaker 4 no one in the world thinks he is. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 No, it's a little bit emasculating, but if you're a Brax and Berrios, you know what your role is on that team.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Your role is turn punts and catch balls, you know, when the other guys are covered.

Speaker 7 And date Alex Earl. That's pretty much it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Just pretty good life. Be a Miami guy on our sideline.
You're good.

Speaker 7 I have a theory, and you can tell me if this is fan fiction that I've been writing in my head for the last couple of days. But the, um, you know who the defense coordinator of the Ravens is?

Speaker 7 Mike McDonald.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 7 Seen him on the sidelines a lot this year. He seems like the next hot head coach in waiting.

Speaker 7 Um, he'll get more interviews this offseason, I'm sure, because our defense, I think, leads the NFL in scoring, I believe.

Speaker 7 Great coach. Used to coach at Michigan.
Do you think that there's any chance at all that Connor Stallions has been working for the Ravens since he resigned from Michigan?

Speaker 4 I think it's not a 0% chance. I actually, this

Speaker 4 triggered a theory I have

Speaker 4 that we have to look into with the Cowboys, which I should have mentioned when we were talking about the Cowboys. Cowboys are too good at home.

Speaker 4 Do you you think there's any chance that Jerry's figure out a way to hack into their communication?

Speaker 7 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But yes,

Speaker 4 why wouldn't Conor Stallions? I mean, he's die-hard Harbaugh. He'll do whatever he has to do for the Harbaugh men.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I honestly do think that he would die for anybody in the Harbaugh family, including Tom Crean. But yeah, I looked it up since he resigned.
The Ravens are 6-1.

Speaker 7 Their only loss was at Cleveland, where everybody would recognize Connor Stallions if you went to Ohio. public enemy number one.

Speaker 7 Their defense has been playing lights out.

Speaker 7 I'm just going to float it out there with absolutely no backing behind it, besides the fact that McDonald used to coach at Michigan, and Connor Stallions is a hardball guy for life.

Speaker 4 I like the theory. I like the theory.
Did you see the other theory floating around the internet today? That so the 49ers have lost four games this year.

Speaker 4 The first three times they lost, they scored exactly 17 points, and then the quarterback got hurt shortly thereafter against the team they're playing. So the Browns, Deshaun Watson, got hurt.

Speaker 4 The Vikings, Kirk Cousins, got hurt. And then the Bengals, Joe Burrow, got hurt.
And so they're thinking that maybe it's like

Speaker 4 the ref was actually doing the Ravens a favor by tripping up Lamar Jackson, making the final score for the 49ers 19, not 17.

Speaker 4 I like that thing. So Lamar Jackson's been saved.

Speaker 7 That's probably, it's probably more likely than Connor Stallions working behind the scenes for the Ravens. But I like both theories.
Why can't they both be true?

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're both true. As for this game,

Speaker 4 I want to take the Ravens really badly, but I also like, I feel like this is a fuck around game for the Ravens.

Speaker 4 I know that makes no sense because they're playing for the one seed, but that win was so big

Speaker 4 in San Francisco and the way they were talking about it after. And the Ravens, I think we all agree.

Speaker 4 The Ravens are the best team in the NFL, but they also are the number one team of like, look at their losses. They just fuck around.

Speaker 4 They lost to the Colts in overtime they lost to the uh browns when they're up 14 they lost to the steelers the steelers team that can't do anything this year by dropping a million balls they're like the the quintessential if they lose you can just be like well yeah they were around they shouldn't have been around i don't know if they're gonna around against the dolphins though i don't think so but i'm also nervous because like this would be the around spot off a big win but both teams are off a big win i kind of want to fade both teams i don't know how you can do that tie tie tie we should Seriously, Mike, the spot says both teams.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I don't.
You want to call?

Speaker 4 Yeah. You want to call Mike?

Speaker 4 No, we can't. We can't.
We'll do it.

Speaker 4 We'll wait because he's too keen on it now. But

Speaker 4 we publicly embarrassed him. He is.

Speaker 7 Well, yeah, but we appreciate Mike.

Speaker 4 We really do. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I want to know if this is going to, because he has the opportunity to turn this into like a brand for himself to be like the biggest Ravens hater on planet Earth, which I don't think he really wants to do.

Speaker 7 But if he had a more shrewd eye towards like carving out that niche for yourself, like you've got certain people in media that absolutely hate other teams, Skip Bayless hates LeBron.

Speaker 7 You can find your niche and then you'll be that person, like the go-to person for that. We don't really have a Ravens hater.

Speaker 4 He's not. Mike is too honest because it is true.

Speaker 4 Like there's a lot of media people that they just pick a lane and then they just like, because they do the calculation where they're like, all right, I'm going to pick this lane.

Speaker 4 And if I end up being wrong, it's even better for me because then everyone's going to tune in to see me publicly embarrassed. I think Mike is too honest for that.

Speaker 4 I don't think like he actually calls it like he sees it.

Speaker 4 He won't do the easy way out because it is the easy way out where you just be like, I think this, and I'll just keep saying this forever and forever.

Speaker 4 And then if I'm wrong at the end of the year, everyone's going to tune into my show at 9 a.m. and be like, ah, you're wrong.

Speaker 4 Yeah. That's for media.

Speaker 7 He could, yeah, it's actually like it's an undefeated way to make yourself a very good living in this business.

Speaker 4 He should be a bigger flowers fan if his name's florist that just occurred to me a second ago that's a fact um i'm excited for this game though i'm very excited for this game also i'm too dolphins obviously beat a really good team in the cowboys but they still haven't done it on the road so maybe we could just shift the narrative to that and no jalen waddle and two has got a thumb two has got a thumb he's got two thumbs but he's got a one thumb that hurts one injured i i think it was probably good for the raven or for the dolphins to win a low low-scoring game like that.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Where they get to, they, they don't.

Speaker 4 I can say in their defense.

Speaker 7 There was a lot of stuff going on. They were, they were asked in the, in the media this week.
I know Mike McDaniels had to deal with a lot of like, are you guys too cute?

Speaker 7 I think they just straight up asked him, are you too cute? And he was saying that like, you know, there's people that talk out there and it doesn't really affect what they're doing.

Speaker 7 I actually think that.

Speaker 4 if enough people call a football team too cute they do start to listen to that yeah i agree with that i absolutely agree with that how can you not you hear that and then the ravens the ravens are playing like the ravens are just talking about how they're the biggest underdogs in the world which i don't know how you can still be when you have the best record in the nfl but it works for them so don't don't think don't fix what's you know not broken there yeah yeah just give yourself whatever fuel that you need but i i think i like the dolphins in this one we do have um our one nerd nugget of the week we told jake to send us his nerd nugget of the week uh it is the ravens have recorded at least one sack in 30 seconds, 36 consecutive games, marking the NFL's longest active streak, the longest such streak in franchise history.

Speaker 4 Very cool.

Speaker 7 I don't count that as you didn't do the sound.

Speaker 4 Okay. Nerd nugget of the week.
Very cool. Very cool.
All right. Saints and Bucks.

Speaker 4 Um, PFT, I'm going to do something really dumb. I'm probably going to bet the Saints.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's pretty dumb. Pretty dumb.

Speaker 4 It is, but it's also like this:

Speaker 4 the Bucks are good-ish. Baker's played very well.

Speaker 4 He should win comeback player of the year, Joe Flacco.

Speaker 4 No disrespect to DeMar Hamlin, but

Speaker 4 why is he winning? He should not win comeback player of the year.

Speaker 7 They should do a different award for DeMar. They should name an award after DeMar.

Speaker 4 Yeah. If you almost die, you get the DeMar Hamlin Award.
Yeah, you get the DeMar Hamlin

Speaker 7 Excellence and Courage Award.

Speaker 4 I actually think that DeMar Hamlin, probably, if you hit him with True Serum right now, he'd probably be like, I kind of don't want to win this because everyone's going to just shit on me and be like, you had two tackles in two games.

Speaker 4 Like, there is an element. Like, I honestly think DeMar Hamlin's like, can I just be a regular human being again?

Speaker 4 Like, I know it was a crazy story, but I want to just go back and maybe, you know, get my career back on track.

Speaker 7 He should have won the award last year when he survived.

Speaker 4 When he came back from literally death.

Speaker 7 That's when you win Comeback Player of the Year.

Speaker 7 But yeah, this year, good they're probably going to give it to him because football writers they see a story like that and they're like oh wow this is just such a a great great story that we have to promote but yeah if we're being honest he hasn't played much we've got some really good deserving uh names like yeah flacco but baker i mean i would say baker like if flacco did it all year long then that's one thing but baker's been he's been pretty solid all year they're probably maybe going to win the division.

Speaker 7 I don't want to jinx it, but they have, they have every opportunity, even if they lose this game against against the saints i think if they win next week they win the division right uh the who the the bucks oh the bucks yes the bucks yes yeah so i mean baker he's put together a season i'm not just saying this because i bet on him to win the award um but i also am kind of saying it because of that but i i do think that he should win i demar it's a good story i don't want to take anything hard it's it's hard to say that he shouldn't win but i'm here i'll be the brave one and say this guy shouldn't win the award

Speaker 4 Name it after him.

Speaker 4 Name the award after him next year.

Speaker 4 He shouldn't win the award.

Speaker 4 It's just a fact. He shouldn't win the award.
As for this game,

Speaker 4 I'm going to take the Saints probably because I just feel like the Saints couldn't be worse and the Bucks are riding as high as possible. It's like a, it's the combination.

Speaker 4 It's a buy low, sell high situation for like I. The Bucks are playing out of this world good the last few weeks.
And I think it's slightly

Speaker 4 a mirage. Like I think they're a good team.
I don't think they're as good as they've been playing. And the Saints are bad, but maybe they're not as bad.
This

Speaker 4 even me saying this sounds dumb.

Speaker 4 I also have a nerd nugget for this game. It's the fact that the Saints, this is their first outdoor game since October 8th.

Speaker 7 Yeah, okay. That's a big red flag to me.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But that's crazy.

Speaker 7 Like if you watched the Saints last week, I understand what you're saying. I get it.
Where with the Bucs, they beat what we thought was a good team, the Jaguars. They crushed them.

Speaker 7 Baker's been playing out of his mind.

Speaker 7 Now is the time where they should come back to Earth, but also the Saints have just looked real, real bad for the last month.

Speaker 4 There's no football analysis behind the fact that I'm just saying that everyone in the world is going to look at Bucs minus two and a half on Sunday and be like, that's the easiest bet in the world.

Speaker 4 And that's always the bet that loses.

Speaker 7 Do you see the report that Russell Wilson,

Speaker 7 possible destination from next year, might be with the Saints?

Speaker 4 Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 I can't.

Speaker 4 I can't think of a worse culture fit.

Speaker 7 I can't think of a worse culture fit for the city of New Orleans than Russell Wilson, with the exception of maybe, maybe Derek Carr.

Speaker 4 Well, the only thing you could say is maybe Russ would like,

Speaker 4 maybe he'd like enjoy eating with Zion and they'd both get really fat. That'd be fun.
Russ could get fat. Russ has the frame to get fat.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 it would be it would be very funny seeing tubby little russ wilson waddling around next year that would be that would actually be like i i would have to like stop the simulation and say this is actually mean to saints fans at this point you can't do this and it's been torture for them this year did you see that that podcast caller last week that called and complained about derek carr i thought that guy was from like staten island no so that's threw in a couple y'alls that's the new orleans accent i can't remember i i i i i had a clip this comedian very funny comedian went on a late night show and he explained it that all new orleans accents like true new orleans accents are essentially like a brooklyn firefighter with a couple volumes yeah yeah and it's when he broke it down i was like wow that's exactly what it is i hit up our friend derek that we got to meet from from lsu way back in the day and uh i was like this guy i thought he's from new york until he threw in the y'all and he was like yeah they're both there the accents are exactly the same they're both port cities yeah so i guess that's just a port accent Yeah, and shout out Snow Lake John.

Speaker 4 That was his cullen show after. Very, very funny.
He's a good content creator down in New Orleans. Um, he does, he does red beans and rice reviews every day.
It's fucking awesome.

Speaker 4 Every single time I see it, I'm just like, I want that. I want that.

Speaker 7 Listen, I agree with what you're saying that now, now would be the time to fade the Bucks, but I haven't seen anything out of the Saints that I've liked. And it feels like years.
It's dumb.

Speaker 4 It's dumb. I'm fully saying how stupid what I'm saying is, but it's just that feeling like I've been doing this long enough that when you can see those easy like spots, you're like, oh man, the Bucks.

Speaker 4 This is going to be the easiest game ever.

Speaker 7 This is also a potential Mike Evans gets ejected game.

Speaker 4 He loves fighting the Saints. True.
He does. He likes fighting the Saints.
You're right. It seems like it happens more often in the dome, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 He does get pissed in the dome. Okay.
Next game. Raiders at Colts.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I like, I want to bet the Raiders, but then Aiden O'Connell still like.

Speaker 4 What has been like, I hope, actually, I hope for this game, Aiden O'Connell goes like a couple quarters without completing a pass. That would have

Speaker 4 been awesome.

Speaker 7 Yeah. If you win a full four quarters without completing a pass.
And I hope that they win the game too. Like they're winning at the time.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I don't,

Speaker 7 I don't love the Raiders, but I do think that Antonio Pierce has coached his way into being the full-time head coach.

Speaker 7 If they really want to win this game, Mark Davis should announce before the game starts. Like you're giving away a scholarship, like this, this walk-on now has earned his position.

Speaker 7 If you're looking for a boost, Mark Davis, go into the locker room before kickoff and tell the team Antonio Pierce is coming back next year as the head coach. I guarantee you win that game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because there does feel like the Raiders win against the Chiefs. Like, you know, the joke that Hake and Patriots fans used to always make, like, oh, congrats on your week six Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 That did feel like a Super Bowl for the Raiders. And they were smoking cigars in the locker room after.

Speaker 4 I kind of have

Speaker 4 a running theory that if you smoke cigars in a locker room for a regular season game the next week, you can't be trusted.

Speaker 7 They did that in Pierce's first game, too.

Speaker 4 Remember that? And what happened in the second game?

Speaker 7 I don't know. I don't know.
Can we look that up?

Speaker 4 I'm going to look it up right now. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 So I remember Max Crosby lit up a cigar after that game too.

Speaker 4 Max Crosby also might just light cigars after every game. So that might be different.

Speaker 4 They, I believe his first game was the Giants game. So they won the second game by, they beat the Jets 16 to 12.
What a barn burner.

Speaker 4 But you remember that game?

Speaker 7 The Raiders did feel like it also might have just been them celebrating not having to go back to a locker room with Josh McDaniels in it. That's why they were excited.

Speaker 7 But they did act like that was a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 I do have one stat that goes for like us just talking about storylines and being dumb from Sports Info Solution that Raiders' defense, they play six highest in zone and Gardner Minshew's bad against the zone.

Speaker 4 take that however you want. But I thought I'd throw in a stat that people can actually be like, hey, they're not just talking about cigars and

Speaker 4 teams being cursed after the 49ers scoring 17 points. Yeah.

Speaker 7 No,

Speaker 7 that's definitely one that you can drop in the bar and everybody be like, wow, that guy knows ball.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Holy shit.
Okay.

Speaker 4 All right. Patriots at Bills.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 This game, I want to take the Bills so bad, but doesn't it feel,

Speaker 4 and maybe this is way off, like the Bills,

Speaker 4 is a game that like all the pressure is on them there's no pressure on the patriots they have to they cannot lose this game they've climbed all the way out of this hole and they're one game away from basically playing for if if the ravens lose or if the ravens beat the dolphins they're one game away from playing for the afc east which we would have thought was impossible a month and a half ago So it's like, I don't, I think the Bills will win the game, but I also feel like so much pressure is on them to win this game that a 13-point spread is a lot.

Speaker 7 13 is a lot. Yeah, for sure.
And all us Patriots fans know, going back to week one, we said we're just going to play spoiler this year. So now's the time, right? We've got two games in a row.

Speaker 7 Play spoiler. You can spoil the bills season right now.
And then next week, you can just spoil the Jets' existence and spoil their fans' lives. But this is a big time spoiler game.

Speaker 7 So I think I'm going to stand by that take.

Speaker 7 I would not be shocked if the Patriots did something weird because their defense is really good. Their defense is not the problem at all.
Their defense is good enough to win football games.

Speaker 7 If Bailey Zappi gets hot, then anything can happen in this game.

Speaker 4 That's a crazy thing to say, but yes. If Bailey Zappi gets hot,

Speaker 4 he gets hot for halves. He does.
He got hot in the first half against the Steelers. He got hot for the first half against the Broncos.
He gets hot for halves.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so if he can just not be as cold in the second half as he is in the first half, then the defense,

Speaker 7 13 points is too much for this game.

Speaker 4 It also feels like he was hot, hot, so hot last game, and that was such a big win

Speaker 4 that there's no way he's going to do it again.

Speaker 9 Right?

Speaker 4 You never know. Maybe forever.

Speaker 7 I did read a take on, I think it was on Fox Sports.

Speaker 7 I forget who wrote it, but they're speculating that if the Bills somehow collapse, if like the Patriots win this game and the Bills end up not making the playoffs,

Speaker 7 Belichick could take over for McDermott after the season's over.

Speaker 4 In Buffalo? In Buffalo. That would be wild.
What job has he not been rumored for now?

Speaker 7 He's just linked to everyone. It's just a hack where you can be like possible landing spots for Belichick and then just include every team.

Speaker 4 I don't know if he would do that.

Speaker 4 That would be weird, wouldn't it?

Speaker 7 That would be very weird. It depends how much he hates the Patriots.
Like, how bad is the exit going to be for him where he will be petty enough to go inside the division?

Speaker 7 I don't see it happening, but I saw this one person throw that take out there and I was like, that's worth exploring just a little bit.

Speaker 4 Also, Bill Belichick, like, dude, you've lived in cold weather for a very long time. You look miserable every time they show you on the sidelines.
You're old.

Speaker 4 You know, your bones probably hurt when it gets below 30 degrees. Go somewhere warm.
Why not? Yeah. Go somewhere warm.

Speaker 7 Go somewhere where if you're walking out of the house early in the morning with your shirt off, you're not going to have your nipples freezing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, go to New Orleans. Why not? That'd be fun.
Go to New Orleans. Go to LA.

Speaker 4 Live the life. You deserve it.
Do like a half-retired, half-coaching job. That's the dream.

Speaker 7 It really is. But I back to this game.

Speaker 7 I think that the Bills are going to win, but I don't. I mean, they couldn't take care of business against the Chargers.
That game was way closer than we thought it was going to be.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 I still don't trust the Bills.

Speaker 7 They might win the division,

Speaker 7 which, you know, going into the season, we thought this might be the best division in football. And they might win it, but they still might not be a very good team.

Speaker 4 There's, there's,

Speaker 4 I don't think there's a team you can trust right now in the NFL.

Speaker 7 I trust the commanders to suck. I was going to say, like, you go down the list.

Speaker 4 We talked about it. The Ravens are a true fuck around team.
Like, I think the Ravens are the best team, but if Ravens fans are nodding right now, being like, yep, we do fuck around sometimes.

Speaker 4 The 49ers, do you trust them if they go down a couple scores? Because I don't. Like the Cowboys defense, the Lions defense, the Chiefs are broken.

Speaker 4 The Dolphins can't haven't beaten a good team on the road. Like, that's why this season is so much fun.
I don't think there's one team that

Speaker 4 you could say, like, put my life on the line, they win this game. And the Ravens are probably the closest to the closest, yeah.

Speaker 4 But then they have the fuck around thing where it's like they do a full Ravens situation where it's like, wait, they're the better team, but how is this game a tied game in the fourth quarter?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think, but the Bills, they're

Speaker 4 they have more of a glare, they have more glaring trust issues because they haven't been good all season.

Speaker 4 They've had, no,

Speaker 4 they've had good stretches. I mean, this stretch they're on right now is very good.
Yeah, but you have to say that. They won at Arrowhead and then they killed the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 I would also say, though, last week, that's not a team that I trust, the way that they toyed around with the Chargers.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Well, Easton stick.
Too much time for Easton stick. Okay, next game, we could just Falcons and Bears.
Do we even want? We don't have to talk about it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, what do you want to happen?

Speaker 4 I don't care. You care a little bit.
Win. Yeah, I care.
I win. Justin Fields looks awesome.

Speaker 4 I don't know. Lose, get a better draft pick.

Speaker 4 I feel like.

Speaker 4 Ask me with two minutes left in the game and I'll let you know.

Speaker 7 You've had so many instances where you get a good game from Justin Fields, but they lose.

Speaker 7 And then you're like, well, he looked good, but also

Speaker 7 it would have been sweet if he understands what winning is like.

Speaker 4 I guess actually, now that I'm really thinking about it, I would like them to win because I think there is like a culture change and they're starting to win and,

Speaker 4 you know, be a tough team to play. So you got to kind of carry that over into next year.
As long as the Panthers lose out,

Speaker 4 the Bears can win out and I'd be happy. Especially, yeah, if they finish eight and nine and you're like, look at how they played the last two months, that's something you can build off of.

Speaker 4 That's not nothing.

Speaker 4 Right. So yeah, win.
Okay. Yeah, roll some confidence over.

Speaker 7 You want to win.

Speaker 4 I do think they're going to win. I do think they're going to win.

Speaker 7 You just got to put

Speaker 7 all your eggs in the Panthers losing basket.

Speaker 4 Correct. Like, that's the thing is if the Panthers, if that Panthers pick wasn't there, I would say I would want the Bears to lose.
Right.

Speaker 4 Because we have that Panthers pick, it changes the whole calculation. So, yes, win, win.
And I think they are going to win.

Speaker 4 Because I don't think the Falcons are going to be able to run on the Bears. And the Falcons need to run to be good.
And also, doesn't it feel like

Speaker 4 they had a good game last week? What does that mean? That means they probably will do something stupid this week.

Speaker 4 And that's our Bears-Falcons preview.

Speaker 4 There's a couple of games we could do that for.

Speaker 4 Rams, Giants, Ty God is back.

Speaker 4 The Rams,

Speaker 4 the Rams are dangerous. The Rams are playing great ball.

Speaker 4 I think the Rams are, I kind of like this over in this game.

Speaker 4 I think the Rams are going to win this game, but I am a little nervous about Tyrod Taylor because he is so much better than it's crazy that he's like second or third string everywhere he goes because he, every time he comes in, he looks good.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he looks really good. He just gets weird injuries that happen to him all the time.
And so that's the concern with him. I think the Rams are

Speaker 7 peaking at the exact correct time. They had the mid-season downhill swoon that they went on.
They were three and six. Now they're playing so well.

Speaker 7 Like their running game, their passing game, Matt Stafford is playing as good as he's ever played. Their defense is playing pretty good.
Aaron Donald is back to being like Aaron Donald.

Speaker 7 Although Rams PR might have jinxed it.

Speaker 7 I don't know if you saw this, but Rams PR put out a stat, and they said quarterback Matthew Stafford became the fourth quarterback in NFL history to throw 10-plus touchdowns and no interceptions in the month of December in a single season, joining Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady.

Speaker 7 It's only happened three times before.

Speaker 7 They put the stat out. Correct me if I'm wrong, big cat.
I haven't looked at a calendar in a while. We're both on vacation.
This game is being played in the month of December, is it not?

Speaker 4 It is.

Speaker 4 It seems like they should have waited.

Speaker 7 They should have waited until after this week was over to put that stat out.

Speaker 4 I'd agree. I'd agree.
That was a premature stat by

Speaker 4 premature

Speaker 4 stackulation by Schefter.

Speaker 7 Yeah, premature stackulation. Sometimes the premature stats are more potent.

Speaker 4 He can't keep it in. He can't keep it.
He's just the Stafford was just too hot. So yeah,

Speaker 4 he had to release a stat. It was pre-so hot.
It's not

Speaker 4 you. It's not you.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's just, yes, Schefter just whispering. He's like, listen, this doesn't usually happen.
You're just so hot, Stafford.

Speaker 4 You've just been so good that it just, you know, it's not that like, I swear next time. Well, you want to go again? You want to do it again? You want to do another stat?

Speaker 4 I swear I can last longer on this stat.

Speaker 7 I'll be good. Just give me like 30 minutes and then he falls asleep.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Although, just minor correction, it wasn't Adam Schefter, big cat. It was Rams PR that did that.

Speaker 4 So it was their own team. Yeah.
Oh. I wish it was Schefter.
That was funnier.

Speaker 7 We can just say it was Schefter.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was Schefter. It was Schefter.

Speaker 4 I don't know why I thought it was Schefter. I had Shafter.
Oh, because Schefter, I have alerts on. And he said

Speaker 4 an alert popped up on my computer and my phone that the Browns were the first team to make, let's see, Browns are now the first team in NFL history to make the playoffs after starting four different quarterbacks in the same season.

Speaker 4 It's pretty cool. Very cool.
That's why I had Schefter on my brain.

Speaker 4 The alert, Schefter alerts are a blessing and a curse because you have to have them on for, you know, Sunday mornings, but sometimes they're just, it's too much.

Speaker 7 My favorite Schefter alerts are when I wake up on Sunday morning and I see that at like 11 59 or 12 01 it's always like one minute away from midnight sheter did his dump of who's playing and who's not he has like a handshake agreement with every team like i'm not going to put this out until midnight the night before

Speaker 7 but just give me all your info it's perfect i'm not going to put this out until i put my parlay in and then i'll drop it

Speaker 4 the uh i think the rams are win this game because The Giants love to blitz and Stafford kills the Blitz.

Speaker 4 Not fully this year, but it's also because kyron williams is like he's he's a lead dog in terms of blocking we we we talked about it in the offseason when the whole running backs they had their zoom call and everything kyron williams is one of those guys that like he he should just do a whole blocking highlight and that should get him 15 million dollars a year alone because he saves he saves matthew stafford's life multiple times a game He takes a lot of pride in his blocking.

Speaker 7 That's what they're always saying about running backs. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He was like that at Notre Dame, too. He's just a dog back there.

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Speaker 4 Okay, Cardinals and Eagles.

Speaker 4 I don't know. Eagles have to win by a lot for me to feel good about the Eagles.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they're going to win this game.

Speaker 4 But they have to win by a lot. Don't you agree? Like, if they go, if this is another game where the Eagles win by five somehow, I'm going to be like, well, they're not fixed.

Speaker 7 It's a revenge game for the Eagles against Gannon.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 if you remember the way that it all shook out before the Super Bowl, he said, Jonathan Gannon said,

Speaker 7 Philly's keeping me, good, bad, or indifferent. I'm staying here.
That was his quote, I believe, after the NFC championship game.

Speaker 7 The week of the Super Bowl, the Cardinals hit him up and they're like, Hey, we want to interview you after the Super Bowl if we happen to have a coaching vacancy.

Speaker 7 And he was like, Yeah, sure, that sounds good. And then they interviewed him, I believe, the day after the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 So it's, they want us to believe that they called him the Monday morning after the Super Bowl. And they're like, Hey, since you're in Arizona, you want to just swing by the facility?

Speaker 7 We'll talk about it. Um, no, this was something that was put into place

Speaker 7 probably a week or two before the game. And so, I think that Philly's got like, let's get some revenge against Snake Gannon.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
They have to. Max,

Speaker 4 two things.

Speaker 4 We're in Arizona right now.

Speaker 4 I went, I took my son to mini golf at Talking Stick, where if you remember, we went and interviewed Lane Johnson. Vibes couldn't have been higher at that very moment.
Do you remember that moment, Max?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was a great time. Great time in life.
Yeah. Great time.
Number two is what do the Eagles have to win by for you to feel confident?

Speaker 4 And is it also just a terrible feeling knowing that the Eagles are going to lose in the playoffs and you know it's coming and there's nothing you can do about it?

Speaker 4 I'm going to answer that first question. I'll say three scores.
Okay,

Speaker 4 three scores, three touchdowns? No, three scores. Three scores, like nine points,

Speaker 4 no, six points, three safeties. I don't like, I don't like the way that you guys are doing this.

Speaker 7 I think you said three scores. We want to dive into the numbers.

Speaker 4 The answer is three scores. Three scores to 17.
17 or more. Correct.
17. 17 would be would be nice.
Or

Speaker 4 it like never get

Speaker 4 if it just never got to a one score game after the first quarter, I would be fine with that. Okay, like

Speaker 4 a comfortable win because sometimes the Eagles can like dominate a game and only win by 14 by just like absolutely controlling the clock in the second half. And I would like to see that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Eagles, like the Cardinals can't really stop the run. It would be fun if the Eagles just played a game where they didn't do a forward pass.
Yeah, like I would be fine with that.

Speaker 4 They did like, yeah, Michigan versus Penn State, and they're like, Yeah, we're just gonna win it this way. What about the other part of my question? I kind of snuck that part out.
I know, I answered.

Speaker 4 We only do one question at a time here, one question with a Max.

Speaker 4 PFT, do you have a question for Max?

Speaker 4 Oh, he's always frozen. Okay,

Speaker 4 we're back, we're back, we're back, we're back, we're back.

Speaker 4 Do you have a question for Max, PFT? Yeah, I do.

Speaker 7 Max, is this a must-win game for you guys?

Speaker 4 No, you're supposed to ask, no, no, no, must-win, yeah, great, great question, great question, yes, Musk Win. Damn it, PFT.

Speaker 7 I'm frozen again. So I didn't hear Max's answer.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, he wouldn't answer the part where I said, does it suck that you know that the Eagles are going to lose in the playoffs? There's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 4 And it's going to be torturous because you know it's going to happen and it can't stop it. But we can't ask another question.
So he's just going to elude this question.

Speaker 7 Max, I was curious to know, as an Eagles fan,

Speaker 7 the way that the last couple of weeks have gone for you, are you a?

Speaker 4 No, yeah, I agree. This is Moss Wynn.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's frozen again.

Speaker 4 This is painful.

Speaker 4 He's frozen again. He froze again.

Speaker 4 It's almost like a bit. Is he freezing? Memes, do you have a question for Max?

Speaker 11 I'm thinking about one.

Speaker 4 If

Speaker 4 you can text me the correct verbiage.

Speaker 7 Wait, I think I found a problem.

Speaker 4 Okay, memes, memes, do you have one question for Max? We're doing one question for Max real quick. Do you have a question for Max?

Speaker 7 Memes here, part of my take podcast.

Speaker 11 Max, are you worried that you're going to lose in the playoffs and there's nothing you can do about it? And you're going to cry and be sad and you know it's coming and you suck.

Speaker 4 Good question, memes. Good question, memes.
Good question. Thanks for reaching out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no.

Speaker 4 Most teams lose in this league. So the chances are that, yes, the Eagles will lose in the playoffs.
So I am preparing for that, but I'm not

Speaker 4 i am not like i'm not canceling out all possibilities here so the eagles still okay still could win the super bowl

Speaker 4 okay okay all right good answer the bears could still win the super bowl wrong that's incorrect

Speaker 4 they're not eliminated right now max okay

Speaker 4 i didn't thought they were that's on me yeah that's i gotta know my facts i gotta know my facts the bears and eagles might have the same chance at winning the super bowl

Speaker 4 Zero.

Speaker 4 Not zero. Max,

Speaker 7 what are your thoughts on Gannon?

Speaker 4 Do you hate Gannon?

Speaker 4 I don't really give a fuck about Gannon.

Speaker 4 I like Matt Patricia.

Speaker 4 I'll say that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Defense has looked better the past two weeks.

Speaker 4 All right. Let's go to the next game.
49ers are commanders. PFT.
Jacoby Rossett is your starter now.

Speaker 4 Good job.

Speaker 4 You found the right guy. Week 17 took you a while, but you found the right guy.

Speaker 7 Listen, this is a, it's a move that at first I was just like, why are we doing this? Why don't we just let Sam Howell play the season out?

Speaker 7 You remember last year, that's when we benched Heineke against the Niners. We said, okay, we're going back to Carson Wentz.
It felt weird then.

Speaker 7 It feels weird now, but also the Niners are just going to destroy us. The Niners are going to take a big shit all over us.
Shanahan hates the organization.

Speaker 7 We've got Chase Young, and he's going to be looking to prove something against us.

Speaker 7 It's not good. But then I thought to myself, if you're going to bench Sam Howell, why not bench him for this game? Just like, okay, he might not be the guy in the eyes of the coaching staff.

Speaker 7 I don't think putting him in this game is going to prove anything because we're going to lose no matter what. And also, I think that there might be something wrong with him physically.

Speaker 7 This would not be a good game to put him out there, let him get killed again.

Speaker 7 So I don't necessarily hate the move. It's just like a sad move for me because I saw the picture that the commanders tweeted out of Jacoby Brissett looking dummy thick, by the way.

Speaker 7 I don't know if you saw that picture, big cat.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 7 He was like, he was doing the influencer pose with his ass sticking out in the pocket. And he is the Kobe.
He's Jacoby Brisket. And it was very funny.

Speaker 7 And I saw that and I thought to myself, you know what? Fuck it. I guess we're doing Jacoby Brissette.
We want to lose this game.

Speaker 7 When the game is going on, I will be rooting for the commanders.

Speaker 7 But ideally, I would like to lose this game and then lose the last game of the season and maybe end up with the third overall pick if my new england patriots can do their part and play spoilers so um it's going to be a sad game to watch i don't think that it's going to be particularly competitive i'm not going to bet against the commanders but um if you were smart you would bet against the commanders this weekend yeah yeah this is going to be a tough game to watch i would agree um all right let's do this has never been done in our preview but i think because um this is abbreviated preview i'm going to do it here we're going to do do a combo game so whatever you want to say panthers and jaguars titans and texans all right it's a four-way game

Speaker 7 uh i guess titans titans and texans is a more interesting game because the texans aren't dead cj stroud's coming back well the jaguars aren't dead either yeah that's that's a good point i feel like the the texans are more alive to me than the jaguars are even though i think all the jags have to do is they have to win against uh the panthers right yeah i think they just have to win one more game, maybe.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I don't even know.

Speaker 4 I have no interest in watching either one of these games. Correct.
Correct. These are games.

Speaker 7 I guess there is something kind of interesting in the Titans-Texans game is Will Levis and C.J. Stroud.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And C.J. Stroud being back after concussion.
Hopefully he looks good.

Speaker 4 I do want the Panthers to lose, obviously. I'm very nervous about it because I actually think that the Jaguars could absolutely lose this game.

Speaker 4 But yeah, these are the games that you have to just memory hold and be like, we would kill for this game in July. But when it comes to like,

Speaker 4 it's crazy because both, like you said, the Texans and the Jaguars both are alive, but I don't really want to watch either of them play football right now.

Speaker 4 And maybe that will change once we see CJ Stroud back out there. But right now, it's like,

Speaker 4 this is, this is a bummer. These are bummer games.

Speaker 7 You know what it was? The last couple of weeks, we got a flashback to the old Texans.

Speaker 7 And we had just now started to to memory wipe ourselves of what the Texans have looked like for the past like seven years.

Speaker 7 Um, and we had a flashback with Case Keenum and Davis Mills playing quarterback, and now it's like okay, it's those Texans again.

Speaker 7 We forget that when CJ Stroud's playing, they're actually very, very fun to watch for the most part. Yes, um, so I'm just hoping for a fun game.
I hope both quarterbacks look good.

Speaker 7 Maybe we should reframe the narrative and say we get to watch Will Levis against CJ Stroud for the next 13 years.

Speaker 4 Actually, let's just hope that all four of these quarterbacks look good.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Right? Let's root for health for all four of these quarterbacks, specifically Trevor Lawrence, who's gotten every injury in the world.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I want to give a quick shout out to one of my favorite Twitter accounts, Art But Make It Sports. Yes.

Speaker 7 This guy has like an encyclopedic memory of uh all sorts of art, like going back to like Renaissance paintings, modern art, and he sees things that happen on TV and sports games.

Speaker 7 And then he immediately finds a painting that looks exactly like that still frame.

Speaker 7 The Trevor Lawrence face, where his face started to melt because he got hit so hard, he found the self or the portrait of Pablo Picasso, which was a pixelated, curvy face that was the exact perfect fit for it.

Speaker 7 I wish I was as good at anything as this guy is at just going back through his memory and being like, that reminds me of this thing I just saw on TV. Perfect.

Speaker 4 He's actually a well-adjusted, well-rounded person, or it's he's a sports fan, fan, but he also has some culture. Yeah.
The opposite of us.

Speaker 7 We'd be like the opposite of us. Which is why we like him so much.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we'd try to do Art But Make It Sports. We'd be like, wait, that one time in The Simpsons.

Speaker 4 No, I can't remember.

Speaker 7 It's like either The Simpsons or it's like a screenshot from the Sopranos. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Totally.

Speaker 4 Or another or another sports event. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Art but Make It Sports and memes is brain, except it's just SpongeBob memes.

Speaker 4 Yeah. this time Trevor Lawrence's face got smushed remind me of the time Blake Portal's face got smushed.
Yeah, that's really it.

Speaker 4 Like, yeah, remember when Blake Bortles had his tongue wagging out and he was getting hit? That's what I thought of. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah. But if, yeah, if you want to, if you want to be like 10% smarter or just feel 10% smarter, follow that guy.

Speaker 4 All right. So gun to your head, these two games, I would go Texans.
minus the points and Panthers plus the points.

Speaker 7 I would go Texans minus the points and Jaguars.

Speaker 7 I feel like back to your theory on like how you're fading the Bucs this week, I think you can do the opposite with the Jaguars, that they looked so bad last week that now is the time to take them.

Speaker 4 It's not a bad thought.

Speaker 4 They could not possibly look worse.

Speaker 4 Okay, afternoon games. That was all just the one o'clocks.
It's crazy. I don't know why they did 10 games.
Steelers and Seahawks.

Speaker 4 I think the Steelers might win this game.

Speaker 7 I like the Steelers here, too. This might be back-to-back culture games for Tomlin.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this would get him to nine wins. Yeah.
This is the ninth win game.

Speaker 7 And I, I mean, can you imagine if the Steelers win 10 games this year?

Speaker 4 It'd be crazy. It would be crazy, especially because if they win 10 games, they would be in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 And I wouldn't really hate them being in the playoffs because it would have meant that they looked good for the last three weeks of the season.

Speaker 4 And Mason Rudolph would be fun.

Speaker 4 It does make me a little nervous because it feels like the story of this season is backup quarterback quarterback comes in, does awesome things, and then we're reminded why they're the backup quarterback.

Speaker 4 It's the Dobbs year. If you can, if you want to tell the full story of the 2023 NFL season, it's Josh Dobbs and all his

Speaker 4 offspring.

Speaker 4 Every branch of the Dobbs tree is just quarterbacks, Jake Browning popping up, looking good. Zach Wilson getting hurt, coming back looking good, getting hurt again, coming back looking good.

Speaker 4 Billy Zappi looking good for a game, like Mason Rudolph looking good for a game. All these guys, Nick Mullins, all of them.
True Locke.

Speaker 9 True Locke.

Speaker 4 Like you can go down. Jacoby Brissette.
Like there's just a list of these guys who've come in for a game. Heineke when he came in for the first game.
Now he's back.

Speaker 4 Like that's the entirety of this NFL season is guys coming in for one start. Easton stick.
Like it just keeps going on and on and on. So it is the Josh Dobbs year.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, that's a good point. We've had a lot of quarterbacks that show up and it's a feel-good story.
And we're like, oh, this is so awesome.

Speaker 7 To see that there, there should be a team that gets the playoffs and then they have an unexpected backup come in, like right at the start of the playoffs.

Speaker 7 Then we get a nice little like two, maybe three game stretch. We're like, oh, wow, this version of Josh Dobbs is awesome before they fall off and lose in a heartbreaking fashion.
But

Speaker 4 dude, remember, remember Tyson Bagent? That was awesome. Yeah.
For a week. Yeah.
With so with

Speaker 7 Mason Rudolph, I feel like what he's done is very similar to what Drew Locke did.

Speaker 7 Like everybody was very, very down on Drew Locke. A lot of people were disrespecting him.
A lot of people, like us included, were saying bad things, thinking bad things about Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 7 Just our own fault for the last like three years. And then he came in, played well, and we're like, wow.
I guess we've really turned the page on him.

Speaker 7 I think we have another like week or two of feeling good about Mason Rudolph before we're like, oh yeah, fuck that guy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I agree with you. So this is maybe, this is the last week.
So we should probably be like, yeah, we should probably bet the Steelers.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think so. And then in the Broncos game, I think this is our, oh, Jared Stiddam.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's Jared. Yeah, so Broncos

Speaker 7 Dobbs.

Speaker 4 I mean, we should talk quickly about Russ, the sad ending of Russell Wilson's, maybe his career. Someone will pick him up, but I don't know if he's going to,

Speaker 4 like, if I said to you right now, Russell Wilson, over-under

Speaker 4 15 starts in the NFL for the rest of his career, would you take the over or the under?

Speaker 7 It depends how bad the team is that picks him up.

Speaker 4 I'd take the under, I think.

Speaker 7 I think he'll get another shot.

Speaker 7 I think he'll get another shot after this next shot.

Speaker 4 So I'd take the over. This shot, well, I don't know if this shot will be a starting job.

Speaker 7 I think he will.

Speaker 7 I think he's going to start week week one next year. And then I don't know if he's going to last the entire season.
And then there will be one more team that's like, let's roll the dice.

Speaker 4 Okay. But yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 So obviously

Speaker 4 they benched him mostly because of the contract. It was very similar to the Derek Carr thing last year, where it's like, we can't get this guy injured because then we have to pay him like $40 million.

Speaker 4 We can't risk that, especially because we're going to cut him. And Rossini.

Speaker 4 had that report that he's gone from Denver, which I think we all knew.

Speaker 4 This also was like a very good test on the stats that you see compiled on Twitter versus the eye test, because you know, there was that, there was the meme going around that Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes are the same quarterback this year.

Speaker 4 And it's like, if you watch the Broncos, like they,

Speaker 4 yes, it was great that they turned it around, but it was a lot of smoke and mirrors. It was a lot of, you know, turnover luck.

Speaker 4 And Russell Wilson still had the same issues that he's had the last two years, where it's like he can throw a deep ball that has like a 20% chance of getting completed.

Speaker 4 He can't move an offense down the field and he can't use his legs the same way. And then Sean Payton came and did an all-time press conference where he was like,

Speaker 4 someone asked him if Russell Wilson, it felt like Russell Wilson was getting all the blame. He's like, well, I can't cut five offensive linemen.
I can't change all my wide receivers.

Speaker 4 It just went and threw everyone under the bus all at once. Great, great job by Sean Payton.

Speaker 7 He was like, well, yeah, that's what a scapegoat is. That's why the quarterback position is the best because you can just be like, yeah, it is that guy's fault.

Speaker 7 And Russ, to his credit, he was better than Russ last year. So everybody was like, oh, maybe, maybe he's back.

Speaker 7 We spend a lot, a lot of time this year being like, oh, maybe old Russell Wilson is working his way back there.

Speaker 7 But yeah, the math, math did not work in his favor. That's why

Speaker 7 if you give big money to a quarterback, then they're always going to have in the back of their mind, like, oh, well, this is our biggest expense. What can we do to try to move on from this guy like

Speaker 7 a little bit too soon rather rather than a little bit too late and i i don't know how that works when they ask because it's a uh it's an injury guarantee so they want to make sure that he's healthy did they give him a physical and then he passed the physical and they're like okay you're benched a trick flip physical they're like a trick physical that's what i i want

Speaker 4 because if you're an nfl quarterback you should a good agent should tell his client if you ever get a physical done like always say that something's really hurting yeah and then tell a coach like i'm gonna play play through it um but yeah this is really killing me but yeah i think i think it might have been a fake physical they did they did the thing like i do with my kids like the their dentist's office is right next to a toy store so i'm always like yeah we're going to the toy store today and i'm like oh well we got to stop at the dentist's office first you think they did that to russia i said hey we're going to the subway right now we're going to get a sandwich you're like oh shit before we get this the the the foot long we're just going to need you to sit up on this table and cough for us yeah sean payton might have been like, hey, Russ, we're giving out big boy bonuses today.

Speaker 7 If everyone's feeling good, like a big boy, no pain at all. If you're a tough guy, then I'm giving you $100,000 cash under the table.
You want to take your physical?

Speaker 7 He's like, yeah, coach, I'm feeling great.

Speaker 4 All right, you're benched. His physical is literally just the pain chart, the zero to like 10 that's in every hospital room.
Russ, can you point up here where you like zero to 10?

Speaker 4 Russ is like, oh, I'm like a one. Like, oh, great.
You're benched. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Peyton was probably like, hey, I'm just doing a check on you because I don't want you to get banged up. If you're hurt, I'm going to sit you because we value your long-term health here.

Speaker 7 So I just want to make sure going into this next week that you're feeling good, like you're ready to start. Because if you're not, just tell me and we're going to take care of you.

Speaker 7 He's like, no, no, I want to start. I'm feeling great.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 7 Tough news. You're benched.

Speaker 4 Yeah, cool. You answered that incorrectly.
I also did love Sean Payton doing the classic coach speech where he's like, listen, if I'm bad at my job, I'm out of here too.

Speaker 4 You know, he's like, yeah, yeah, okay, Russ is a scapegoat, but like,

Speaker 4 someday I'll get fired. It's like, okay, dude, we know that like you, you basically have control of this whole organization for the foreseeable future, and you're getting paid a ton of money.

Speaker 4 So, of course, yeah, you can say that, but you're not getting fired.

Speaker 7 I'm sure he's been fired before, but just thinking back on his recent career, when was the last time Sean Payton was fired?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Oh, let's look it up.
By the way,

Speaker 4 in sad stats,

Speaker 4 since this is the end of the Russell Wilson era in Denver, he officially is finishing his career with less wins than toilets in his back in his house. So he has 12 toilets in his house.

Speaker 4 He won 11 games for the Broncos in two years.

Speaker 7 That is very sad. But yeah, Sean Payton, he left the Saints on his own terms.
I'm pretty sure he left, what, the Cowboys on his own terms?

Speaker 4 I guess he got, you know, he got fired as like a player.

Speaker 7 He got fired. Well, he got

Speaker 4 suspended for a year.

Speaker 4 He got fired by Andy Reid and the Eagles.

Speaker 4 Well, that was the switchover. So he was on the Eagles, and then Andy Reid came in, and they didn't retain his duties.

Speaker 4 So that's kind of fired, right?

Speaker 7 So Sean Payton's like, you know, it's a tough business. I know every day I wake up, I might get fired tomorrow.
I'm in that same boat as you, Ross.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. He basically, yeah, he's like 20, you know, 25 years ago, the Eagles brought in Andy Reed and they didn't extend my contract.
So I know exactly how this could happen.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Do you, do you feel bad for Russell Wilson?

Speaker 4 Uh, hold on. Let me, let me look up all the money he made.

Speaker 4 Uh,

Speaker 4 let's see. Because that really

Speaker 7 plays a big part of it.

Speaker 4 I do feel bad for him. On paper, I feel bad for him.
Um, but I also think there's a lot of this was his doing

Speaker 4 in his own. All right.
So he, I guess, I don't know how the rest of his contract, how much is guaranteed, but let's just say he like, if he makes, I think he's going to make a bunch of this still.

Speaker 4 He's so far in his career made 266 million. If he makes the rest of his money, he makes 477 million.
So no, I do not feel bad.

Speaker 7 I feel bad for Russell Wilson the same way that I feel bad for Internet Explorer.

Speaker 4 Where it's like, yeah, it's hanging around.

Speaker 7 It was very useful for a long time, but it's just sad to to see it on a desktop somewhere and you just never want to use it ever again.

Speaker 4 If if you're forced into using it at any point, you know that your job is not going well.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
It's like, or like, I'd feel bad for like Blockbuster. It's like, oh, that was a shame.
Yeah. Like they really should have thought differently there.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was, it was fun to like walk to Blockbuster on a snow day. Yeah.
And the smell it used to have when I was a kid, that was cool. I remember that.

Speaker 7 I remember Blockbuster, so it makes me sad that it's not around.

Speaker 4 Right. Yeah.
Like I remember Russell Wilson when he was fun. It was fun.
He was fun to watch.

Speaker 4 But it does feel like a lot of this was his doing. Like

Speaker 4 if you could go, if you could hit him with True Sergeant, I'm like, hey, dude, maybe you should have just stayed in Seattle. Like you had it pretty good there.

Speaker 4 I know that, you know, Twitter got in your head a lot and said Russ should cook, but maybe it was a good idea that they always were trying to establish the run, you know, even though they couldn't.

Speaker 4 That was probably good.

Speaker 7 We'll always have the danger witch.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 he definitely played himself out of a Hall of Fame career, right?

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 That's when we did top quarterbacks all time. I think you had him nine.
This was like four years ago. So I didn't disagree.
Like, I didn't think it was that crazy.

Speaker 4 But I think you had him like nine or 10. And it's like, he wouldn't be anywhere near that.
Because it was right when it was like, he was really good. He had a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 He had probably like seven, eight years left. So you were just projecting and I didn't disagree.

Speaker 4 I was just like, yeah, I mean, like, if he just keeps being this good for a really long time, the way the league has gone, all like the best quarterbacks, quote unquote, are going to be in the last like 15 years.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Then when he left Seattle, that's when we all got to experience more of what Russell Wilson was all about.

Speaker 4 And we're like.

Speaker 7 As a country, we're like, that's too much, Russell Wilson. In Seattle, he was nice.
He was a little bit sheltered.

Speaker 7 the media up there was very friendly to him. We didn't get all the stories from Marshawn Lynch about how they wouldn't talk to each other and how Marshawn had to like call his agent to talk to him.

Speaker 7 And then all that's come out in the last two and a half years. It was really, it started with the finger injury when he came back from the finger injury.

Speaker 7 And he was doing the simulated reps on the field. He was doing the fake high fives.
That's that's when Russ turned bad. That's when he broke bad.

Speaker 4 It's actually a really interesting hypothetical. How quickly would America have hated Russell Wilson if he was drafted by the Giants?

Speaker 4 Pretty quickly. The New York media would have, yeah, they would have found that out right away.
They'd have been like, this guy's weird.

Speaker 4 And again, like Russell, Russell Wilson is not, he's not a bad guy at all. He's just a weird guy.
There's a big difference, I think.

Speaker 4 Like he's not, I don't, that's where I would start to feel bad for him because it's like, he's not, there's nothing about him that is like truly a bad person.

Speaker 4 I think he's just a weird guy who's like, he kind of is like, if, if, like, Gary Vee became a starting quarterback, where you're like, all right, this is a little much. I don't know.

Speaker 7 I think if he was on the Jets, we would have hated him from day one. They play a little bit nicer with the Giants for whatever reason.

Speaker 7 If he was the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, America would have hated him in training camp his rookie year.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I, he was one of my favorite Badger seasons, so I still have love for him there. But yeah, I guess to answer the original question, I'd say I feel 20% bad for Russell Wilson.

Speaker 4 And then if you show me how much money he's made, it goes down to 10%.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you show me a picture of his wife and I'm like, he's doing okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's having a, he's, he has a pretty good life.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Last two games, Bengals, the Chiefs. I think this is the get-right spot for the Chiefs.
I think the Chiefs are going to beat them.

Speaker 4 I think the Chiefs, it's basically if Andy Reid, which is asking a lot, if Andy Andy Reid can be like, hey, you know what, we can do in this game, just run the ball, uh, we'll be fine.

Speaker 4 Because, you know, we've talked about it. The Bengals defense is not that good.
DJ Reeder being out has been a really big problem.

Speaker 4 You saw it last week with the Steelers and Mason Rudolph and how they ran the ball.

Speaker 4 So if the Chiefs are smart here, kind of like the Eagles, like just run the ball, run the ball and win the game by two touchdowns and feel good about yourself.

Speaker 7 We've started to see a little resurgence of Clyde Edwards Elaire recently, which is always good because he was a big time. What happened to that guy person?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I would like to see them run the ball too. I just don't know if the Chiefs are capable of getting right.

Speaker 7 They might be so wrong that it's just, they might win ugly games, but I don't think that they're capable of flipping that switch and getting right.

Speaker 4 Oh, man. Memes just sent this to us, PFT.
It is from April 15th, 2020, top 10 NFL quarterbacks since 1980. So this is peak COVID discussion.
You had Russ at number nine ahead of Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 7 That feels like it was a troll.

Speaker 4 We need, yeah, you had, you had Mahomes 10, too.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but I had no one else, like everyone else. That I had Mahomes, I didn't have anyone else who's current ahead of Mahomes.
I had everyone whose career was over.

Speaker 7 You had Steve Young ahead of Mahomes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and Mahomes would obviously get ahead of him. This was before he won his second Super Bowl.
But I didn't have anyone else who was a current contemporary against Mahomes.

Speaker 7 I'm looking at this list right now i think we knocked out of the park these are lists

Speaker 4 i remember it vividly like you saying russell was like ah and then you kind of convinced me but yeah um well in 2020 where's mahomes done

Speaker 4 yeah he had one super bowl yeah i mean the fact we had mahomes on this list is pretty crazy he had one super bowl hank was the only one who had big ben look at hank also had portals

Speaker 4 five

Speaker 4 oh he had portals number three yeah okay i didn't see that yeah um Um,

Speaker 4 yeah. So, and Russell Wilson is nowhere near a top 10 now.

Speaker 4 That's a lot of football that's happened since then.

Speaker 7 Nowhere near a top 10 now.

Speaker 4 Nowhere near. Wait, so you like the Bengals or Chiefs?

Speaker 4 I,

Speaker 7 if we're talking spread, I like the Bengals, but I think the Chiefs are going to win.

Speaker 4 They have to get right. They have to get right.

Speaker 4 Okay, last game. Vikings, Packers, Charon Hall playing for the Vikings.
No Hawkinson, no Addison, I believe. Um,

Speaker 4 it feels like Kevin O'Connell, who's done a great job this year keeping this team like, I do really feel bad for Vikings fans because this was

Speaker 4 this was the year if Kirk Cousins stays healthy. Like, they would not have been fraudulent, they would have been it.
Like, think about how wide open the NFL playoffs are going to be.

Speaker 4 The Vikings would have been absolutely live with Kirk Cousins and the way he was playing. And now, Kevin O'Connell is stuck with like his fourth quarterback trying to be like, Maybe this is the spark.

Speaker 4 He's just searching for a spark everywhere he goes and it's jaron hall's turn yeah so

Speaker 4 the spread is vikings minus one right yeah i think it was two and then jaron hall made it one

Speaker 7 i i love the packers in this game i know i love them um now they're they are missing a key component on defense correct uh jarry alexander

Speaker 7 And we should talk about what happened with him because this might be my favorite story of the second half of the NFL season.

Speaker 7 He is from Charlotte. They were playing against the Carolina Panthers, which Matt LaFord probably didn't know.

Speaker 7 He might not have known.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 7 But Alexander nominated himself. He sent himself out onto the field as a captain before the game.

Speaker 7 And not only did he make himself a captain for that game without his coach's knowledge, but he also thought that since he's from Charlotte, to be fair, he's from Charlotte. From Charlotte.

Speaker 7 It was up to him to call the coin toss in the air.

Speaker 7 So he called the coin toss, and then he incorrectly told the referee that they wanted the defense on the field instead of deferring possession to the start of the second half.

Speaker 7 The refs stepped in and said, wait, what are you asking for? And corrected him so that he didn't give them double possessions on kickoffs.

Speaker 7 I think we should investigate the refs because they let the Packers get away with it.

Speaker 4 That's a good point. But this, I agree with you.

Speaker 4 One of my favorite stories of the year, him doing the press conference at his locker with the macho man Randy Savage glasses and just being like, Coach didn't know it's from Charlotte.

Speaker 4 Like, I was going up there. And everybody knows.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this teammates be like, dude, what are you doing?

Speaker 7 I put that on the other captains, actually.

Speaker 7 You have to nominate better captains and empower them to take leadership when they see a fake captain going out with them. to be like, no, no, no, you're not a captain.

Speaker 4 We talked about it last week with Razul Douglas and how that was probably the worst trade in season this year.

Speaker 4 Imagine if the Packers had traded Jaira Alexander, they probably would have gotten a lot more for him and they would have kept the

Speaker 4 cornerback who can stay on the field and also is not crazy.

Speaker 7 I love this though. He's just, who does that?

Speaker 4 Who's like, yeah, coach. Oh, he's from Charlotte.

Speaker 7 probably didn't know i was from charlotte so if he had known then he definitely would have made me the captain the speaking captain in fact yeah i mean he's from Charlotte, like, he's got to get everyone.

Speaker 4 He's, he's from Charlotte. I don't know what, I don't know what Matt LaFleur was thinking.
Like, the dude's from Charlotte.

Speaker 7 I blame Joe Berry for this, actually.

Speaker 4 Oh, he should have said something about it. I had a lot of passion.
Did you also,

Speaker 4 they're like, all we talked about at Christmas was Joe Berry.

Speaker 7 Did you know that Joe Berry was the, I think he was the defensive coordinator on the Lions team that went 0-16?

Speaker 4 Ooh, he was Will Compton's coach, too.

Speaker 4 On the Redskins. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's, I like the Packers too, here, which is probably stupid because we, if both of us love a side, usually we're really dumb.

Speaker 4 Okay, should we should we do our picks then? Let's do our picks. So I don't even know what the standings are.
Does anyone know what the standings are?

Speaker 4 I think Hank's eliminated.

Speaker 7 I don't think he's officially eliminated. I think I'm up

Speaker 7 two and a half points on him.

Speaker 4 Three and a half points. Okay.
I don't know. Okay.

Speaker 4 Jake didn't send us the standings. I'll ask him for the standings right now.
Um,

Speaker 4 why don't we do, why don't we just say, uh, let's let's just give Hank and Jake's picks, we'll give them their first picks and then we'll go from there.

Speaker 4 Uh, so Hank sent the picks to Max, his picks to Max. Max, what are Hank's picks? Patriots plus 13, Ravens, Dolphins over 47 and a half.

Speaker 4 Okay, so that's their his two picks, and Jake's two picks are the Bucs minus two and a half, and the Bears,

Speaker 4 Falcons under 37.5.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 Max, you want to go first and we'll go Snake?

Speaker 4 Sure.

Speaker 4 I'm actually going to fade Hank. I like Bills minus 13.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Memes?

Speaker 7 I'm going to go

Speaker 11 Niners.

Speaker 4 12.5.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 PFT?

Speaker 7 I'm going to take the Packers plus one.

Speaker 4 Okay, I'm going to take, so I got two here. I will go with

Speaker 4 the over in Rams Giants 43 and a half.

Speaker 4 And then I'm going to take

Speaker 4 the Cowboys minus five and a half.

Speaker 4 And PFT.

Speaker 4 I'm going to take.

Speaker 7 over in Houston, Tennessee, 43.5.

Speaker 4 Oh, Hank is eliminated.

Speaker 4 I have the standard. Oh, there he is.
Yeah, Jake is at 20 and a half. Max is at 17 and a half.
Memes is at 17. So Max and Memes, this is very important.
I mean, it's got.

Speaker 4 I was going to say that we should

Speaker 4 do another pick.

Speaker 7 It's the holidays.

Speaker 4 What did you say, Max? I'm just going to lose on the last second, on a

Speaker 4 historic fashion again in week 18. That's the only way it's going to go.
It's going to be me and Hank getting punished again. It's going to be,

Speaker 4 it is what it is.

Speaker 4 And then in the main show, it's, I have 22 and a half points. PFT, you have 20.
Hank has 15 and a half. So yeah, it's okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Sophie wins four.
He gets 19 and a half. You already beat him.
All right. So memes and max, what are your picks? Because these are very important.

Speaker 4 I'm going to go over

Speaker 7 44 in the Bengals Chiefs game.

Speaker 4 Okay. I have over 44 as well.
I thought you were going to take my pick. I will go over 44 in Texas Titans.

Speaker 7 I already took that.

Speaker 4 Oh, you did? Fuck Nates.

Speaker 7 And it's 43 and a half is what I'm looking at right now.

Speaker 4 Shit.

Speaker 4 You dick.

Speaker 4 I'll go over.

Speaker 4 This game sucks. I'll go over 38 Falcons Bears.

Speaker 4 Ooh. We'll give you 37 and a half because that's what Jake has.
All right. Love it.
37 and a half.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Those are our picks. Let's do, we got hot sea cool thrones.
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They've got a bunch of mullets. They look like they're ready to play.

Speaker 4 They were pumped up.

Speaker 7 They were high-five. I was sitting next to this one guy, um, who I think he was maybe, I'm gonna guess he was the mascot, either the mascot or like an equipment manager.

Speaker 7 Um, but every player that walked past him reached over to him and dapped him up on the way back there.

Speaker 4 Wait, how did you, how were you on the same flight as the Oregon football team?

Speaker 7 It was a connecting flight in LA. Somehow, that they also connected in LA to go to Arizona.

Speaker 4 Wait, were you it was their flight like you were on the same plane as them?

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's crazy because I thought like they I saw a video on like sports center them getting off the flight did they do the the weird did you get off the flight like out of a gate or did you go down like the staircase

Speaker 7 no i got off the flight onto a gate and then walked like through the airport like a normal person huh that's crazy i mean that's cool there might maybe there were a couple guys that that didn't take that flight but there were at least i'm gonna say 25 or 30 oregon football players on this that even goes more to your point because it could have been like the the backups or non-scholarship guys.

Speaker 4 And if they're big,

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, maybe they're so big that they had to take two separate flights because they would have overloaded the plane.

Speaker 4 They're so big.

Speaker 7 But I can tell you straight out, I did not see Bonix, so I don't think that Bonix was on this flight, but they're so big. They're way bigger than Liberty.

Speaker 7 So I'm, this might just be because I saw a bunch of football players up close and I'm like, oh, these guys are way bigger than they look on TV. They looked huge.
So I'm hammering Oregon this weekend.

Speaker 4 No, I was on a flight from Chicago to Arizona with the Liberty team and they were just all stowed in the

Speaker 4 overhead. Yeah, in the overhead.
So I'm with you.

Speaker 7 Yeah. This seems to me like a big team against a little team.
Also, Liberty has dead last strength of schedule in all of college football.

Speaker 4 So.

Speaker 7 I think Oregon's going to have something to prove. And I think that most of Oregon's players are playing this weekend, too.

Speaker 7 And then my cool throne is fullbacks. We're announcing the low man trophy in the pregame, I believe, at the Barstool Bowl.
You can see it on the CW, same network as Live, no big deal.

Speaker 7 We have a winner. I've collected all the votes this week.
We have a very special winner that we're looking to announce in that pregame show.

Speaker 7 I will tell you the three finalists right now for the best fullback in college football.

Speaker 7 We did the long list earlier. Now it's been narrowed to three.
The top three vote-getters: Ernest Crownrower from Texas AM,

Speaker 7 Stone Eby from SMU, and then Ben Sennett from Kansas State. And we have a very special presentation.

Speaker 7 A legend in the fullback community will be presenting the award to them

Speaker 7 via video call. But I'm excited to announce it.
It's one of my favorite things that we do. Recognize the fullbacks.
They're an unheralded group of guys. They don't get any of the shine.

Speaker 7 This is their time. The low man trophy.

Speaker 4 I love it. I love it.
So, yeah, we have.

Speaker 4 So, everyone, do tune in it's going to be a great time it's toledo versus wyoming four o'clock eastern saturday i'll be doing the anthem pft will be in the pregame in the halftime i'll be on the call with jake and dave it's it's gonna be a great time we had a great time last year doing it it's gonna be a great time this year doing it it's it's always super funny when you get jake in the booth with you and dave because you guys have you guys you can you can tell which way you're leaning at certain times and then jake's always playing it like the straightest that you can possibly play it It's a good dynamic.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm

Speaker 4 a little nervous about this game because I have Wyoming's coaches retiring, and he's been there for a long time. And he's like an old, salty coach.

Speaker 4 I kind of like him, but I obviously, my heart is with Toledo. We're friends with Jason Candle.
We gave the scholarship, the NIL deal. I won a national title there.

Speaker 4 I don't know what I'm going to do.

Speaker 4 I'm really, I'm really stuck. I'm really, really stuck.

Speaker 7 So, you got to make a special house divided shirt for yourself toledo montana yeah

Speaker 4 wyoming yeah yeah tune in for the first five minutes the game you'll figure out which side i bet guaranteed uh all right my hot seat is john morant um because there was a story released today from tom havestra who's actually he's a great writer but this one did make me laugh um his story was more about how there's like basically the the uh beat writers are like don't exist anymore and like it's a problem because things aren't getting covered.

Speaker 4 But it was a story about how John Morant called the referee a hoe last year after a game. And I just, that headline made me laugh so hard.

Speaker 4 I was just like, well, I mean, the ref was probably being a hoe, if we're being honest, right? Yeah, which ref was it? That makes a difference too. Right.

Speaker 4 Well, I had to look it up because I was like, wait, if it's a female ref, then obviously this is a, no, it was a male ref. So we're good.

Speaker 7 Well, also, like, maybe it's possible that she was being a hoe, too.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 refs could be hoes. Refs could be hoes.

Speaker 7 That's a very funny story, though. Like, this is why journalism is dying in America is because we didn't know that John Morant called this ref a hoe until just now.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes, yes. Oh, man.
So, and then my cool throne is um,

Speaker 7 well, Ja, I also love Ja's celebrating that he did the other night, where he just took the finger guns out after a dunk.

Speaker 4 That,

Speaker 7 you think he was like happy after he did that, or it was just like muscle memory where he just did the guns and then he was, oh, fuck, that's the one thing that I shouldn't do.

Speaker 4 No, I think he's, I think he probably like part of the therapy was like, you need to get it out somewhere.

Speaker 4 Like, it's like, you know, people, like people who are struggling with addiction maybe might get addicted to something else, you know, like they might, you know, vape or like exercise.

Speaker 7 Drink soda.

Speaker 4 Yeah, exercise. Yeah.
Like do real estate deals, whatever it may be. But like, this is, this might be good for him.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I would rather John Morant be waving his fingers around in the shape of guns than actual guns. We should be celebrating that as progress.

Speaker 4 Exactly. Exactly.
And my cool throne is bowl season.

Speaker 4 I was down on bowl season because of the NILs and this, in the, and well, actually, not the NILs. I don't know why I said that.
I sound like old man there.

Speaker 4 Actually, Minnesota, did you see that, the story that Minnesota needed, they didn't have a quarterback. So they, their third string quarterback.
had just gotten engaged.

Speaker 4 He's like 25 and he was like going to go move to Arizona and start his life. And because they needed a quarterback, they paid him $30,000 in NIL money to play.
And they won. I like that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's awesome. But there's something about bowl season every year.
It sucks me in. It's like you're sitting there, you know, in this, this weird,

Speaker 4 like Christmas to New Year's, like time doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 I've had to ask myself what day it is every single day, but you're watching the Pop-Tart bowl. Like there was a bowl game, you know, at Fenway Park today that looked miserable.

Speaker 4 The Miami just having to play in a cold weather city is like the easiest bet against every single year in bowl season. Rutgers just wanted

Speaker 4 it way more. So I love bull season.
I'll never quit bull season. I know that people are down on it with the transfer portal and the opt-outs, but I fucking love bull season.

Speaker 7 The one thing we have to make sure to unlearn, though, is at the start of next year, if there's a quarterback that sucked in a bowl game, we can't automatically think this guy stinks.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Which I'm not going to fight through on that.
No, no,

Speaker 4 I don't agree to that.

Speaker 4 Maybe the only draft analysis, yeah, the only draft analysis I've ever gotten right was Paxton Lynch socks. And that was based on a bull game.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but this is like, I'm saying this to make myself smart in the future, but I also know that I'm not going to take my own advice.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Don't just saying in this moment, while I'm saying it right now, this is the smart thing to do.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I see even in this moment, I disagree.

Speaker 4 Just let your heart wants what the heart wants. Yeah.
To make decisions on players in meaningless games. Okay, let's get to our interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Awesome interview.

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Speaker 7 And now, here's Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He might be the most famous person that we've ever had on this show.

Speaker 1 It is Arnold Schwarzenegger. I mean, movie star,

Speaker 1 weightlifting legend, governor. He's done it all.
He's got a new book out. It's called Be Useful, Seven Tools for Life.
So, Arnold, first of all, thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 1 We're huge, huge fans of you, and this is a thrill for us. I wanted to start with the book, though.

Speaker 1 We're not very useful people. We're kind of bums.
So, what in the book can you tell us that will help us being more useful in life?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 9 first of all, it is a great pleasure to be on your show.

Speaker 9 And I've admired your show. I think you guys are really entertaining.

Speaker 9 And I happen to disagree right off the top with you when you say you're not useful because the stuff that you do and the amount of entertainment that you bring to people and fun stuff is really incredible.

Speaker 9 And so I think that you should call yourself useful. Now, if it's a question about how to be more useful, I think that I think everyone is striving for that.
I always strive for that.

Speaker 9 You know, how can I be more useful? How can I be more successful? How can I be happier? How can I be better in what I do in all that stuff?

Speaker 9 That's what makes us really have an exciting life to always strive for being better. And that's what makes it also fun to get up in the morning when you have a mission.
I want to be better.

Speaker 9 I want to train harder. I want to get in better shape.
And, you know, I want to have more effect on our community.

Speaker 9 and what I do in all that stuff. And that's, I think, what the book is about is to inspire people how to be better and how to be

Speaker 9 great and how to be happy. Because when you think about that, the 78% of the people in America hate their jobs.
So you know that that's not a good statistic.

Speaker 9 And I think that we can do better than that. I always loved everything that I did, even though I had my losses and my downfalls and my good times and my victories and all that stuff.

Speaker 9 but i always loved what i was doing and so i want to make sure that people you know kind of

Speaker 9 can read about the seven tools that I used,

Speaker 9 how to be more successful, and how to really feel good about the stuff that I do, and where you feel like, you know, you're marching in the right direction.

Speaker 6 I do think seven tools is an accurate way to describe this podcast, too. We might not be as useful as you, but what would you say would be like the most important tool?

Speaker 9 Well, I think that the vision, I put this number one in my book,

Speaker 9 be useful because I think that vision is the most important thing.

Speaker 9 If you don't have a very clear vision of what you want to accomplish in life, and if you don't have a very clear vision where you want to go,

Speaker 9 you don't have anything. You're just kind of like drifting around.

Speaker 9 And I see this with a lot of people when they don't have a goal or a specific kind of a mission

Speaker 9 or purpose to get up. for in the morning.

Speaker 9 You know, when you get up in the morning, you have to have a purpose, you know, to know what you're going to do in in life or that day uh that makes it fun i think if you don't have that you drift around and you get lost and i think this is what happens to a lot of young people and even older people and so what i'm trying to do is just show them how do you create a vision and tell them the story about how when i was you know, 10 years old, I had a very clear vision of coming to America.

Speaker 9 When I was 15 years old, I had a very clear vision of becoming a bodybuilding champion and being the greatest bodybuilder of all time. And then later on, and

Speaker 9 how I wanted to get in the movies and be a leading man in the movies. And all of those kinds of things is

Speaker 9 I accomplished because I had a very clear vision. I saw it.
It's kind of seed,

Speaker 9 believe it, achieve it. You know, that old saying.
And I saw that how it works firsthand. And I used it with everything that I did.
And it really worked.

Speaker 9 And so, this is just one out of seven tools is to have a very clear vision. Another one that I think is very important is,

Speaker 9 you know, not to listen to the naysayers, because you could have a very clear vision. And you tell this to people, he says, look, I want to be a great actor.
I want to be a leading man.

Speaker 9 And they say, oh, that's stupid. I mean, you're never going to make that.

Speaker 9 What do you think Hollywood is going to wait for you? And all that stuff. So I heard all of those things.
Well, you want to come to America? That is crazy.

Speaker 9 You want to go to America because what do you think they're going to wait for you? Did they need another person over there? That's never going to happen.

Speaker 9 When I said, I want to be a bodybuilding champion, they say, oh, no. Austria has ski champions.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 You know, we have bicycling champions. We have track and field champions, soccer champions, but we don't have bodybuilding champions.
That's an American sport. What are you talking about?

Speaker 9 This will never happen. So it was always no, no, no.
Everything was always impossible. Even when I got in the movies,

Speaker 9 I remember in the 70s they said you would never make it in the movies you would never be a leading man because you have an accent and you have this overdeveloped body that is not in now in the 70s the little guys that are in and then you have this name schwarzenegger you have to change that so forget about it yeah it was always no no no but i didn't listen to the naysayers i had my own vision and i had my own goal and i said to myself okay if it is so difficult to climb that ladder then i just gonna create my own ladder and I'm gonna climb that and I'm gonna make it up there no matter what.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you did a great job. Uh, I did read that when you started acting, that your name was not Arnold Schwarzenegger, it was Arnold Strong for your first couple movies.

Speaker 6 How did you come up with that name?

Speaker 9 No, no, the producer did. Uh, I hated it because I remember when I did the movie Hercules in New York, which is a movie that my first movie ever that went right in the toilet.

Speaker 9 And

Speaker 9 they changed my name to Arnold Strong.

Speaker 9 And

Speaker 9 but then when I did the next project, like with Lucille Ball, Happy Anniversary and Goodbye, which was a TV show that she did a two-hour special with Art Carney,

Speaker 9 you know, then that was Arnold Schwarzenegger again. Then for Stay Hungry, it was Arnold Schwarzenegger again, Pumping Arn.

Speaker 9 So all of these other projects after that was Arnold Schwarzenegger, because I thought it was stupid to change the name for what? I mean, you know, the idea, and that was absolutely right.

Speaker 9 That A, that the body worked on the hand, because I remember when we did Conan the Barbarian, John Millius, the director, said, Hey, if we wouldn't have had Schwarzenegger, we would have had to build one because I was the only one that really had the muscles to play Conan the Barbarian.

Speaker 9 There was no one around to play that character, yeah, right? And so that's why they never really filmed it.

Speaker 9 And so then when I did Terminator, Jim Cameron said, Hey, Schwarzenegger, if we wouldn't have had his accent and him talking like a machine, this would have never worked of him playing a machine.

Speaker 9 Then all of a sudden the accent was welcome.

Speaker 9 And then later on with the name, as far as the name was concerned, it was like, all of a sudden it became hip to keep your name with the idea that if

Speaker 9 people cannot

Speaker 9 pronounce your name or remember your name, by the time they learn it, they will never forget it. So that was the idea.

Speaker 9 So, you know, people like Gina Lolo, Bridgeta, and the actresses and actors like that with complicated names, kept the name, and it became fashionable to keep your name.

Speaker 1 It's, it's, your, your career is amazing because I watched the documentary, uh, which was great. Everyone should go watch it.

Speaker 1 Um, you, you kind of alluded to it that you set out to do all these things and you just you went out and accomplished them, like Mr.

Speaker 1 Olympia and then the movies and then politics.

Speaker 1 Like you basically were like, I'm going to go do that and then I'm gonna I did it so was there ever a moment because I think in life there's a lot of times you know successful people can sometimes forget like the failures or the points where you almost gave up was there ever a moment that you said like all right I'm done this isn't gonna work out because it does feel like everything you set out to do you just did which is so inspiring well in the end

Speaker 9 I did it

Speaker 9 But on the way there, yes, there's always failures. I remember in bodybuilding, I lost the first few few bodybuilding competitions.
I remember that the first Mr.

Speaker 9 Universe contest I went to in 1966, I lost against an American by the name of Chet Yorton, who was the Mr. America.
And then he won Mr. Universe.
So I was 19 years old. It was okay.

Speaker 9 With the age of 20, I went back to the Mr. Universe contest, and I won it, and I became the youngest Mr.
Universe ever. And then after that, you know, I was winning and winning and winning.

Speaker 9 And then there was another obstacle. I remember in the Mr.
Olympia competition, there was Sergio Liva,

Speaker 9 who was an extraordinary Cuban kind of bodybuilding champion that now lived in Chicago. And he was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 So he beat me.

Speaker 9 In 1969, he won Mr. Olympia and I came second.
But the following year, I went back and I won against him in 1970. So, you know, on a way up there,

Speaker 9 yes, there were losses in powerlifting, losses in weightlifting, losses in bodybuilding, and also politically. I remember I won

Speaker 9 the race for governor. And then literally like a year later, there was a special election that we held here in California where I wanted to get certain things passed by the people.

Speaker 9 And all those four initiatives lost.

Speaker 9 Because the people basically sent a message to me, say, don't come to us with your problems. We elected you to work with the legislators, so you work it out with them.
And so they voted it down.

Speaker 9 And so, again, it was a huge defeat. And people said, oh, in 2006,

Speaker 9 a year later, he's going to lose the governorship.

Speaker 9 And but I came back again. You know, I told the people, I yelled it was a mistake that to have four initiatives like this on the ballot.
I should work with the legislators.

Speaker 9 And the people forgave me for it. And then I came back and I won with 57% of the votes.
I won the governorship the second time.

Speaker 9 And so, you know, so yes, there are losses along the way and setbacks along the way.

Speaker 9 And I don't forget them, you know, because the fact is we learn, you know, sometimes even more from the failures than we do from the successes. Yeah.
And so you have to be very honest.

Speaker 9 When you fail, you have to be very, very honest. And you have to say, you know, I fucked up.

Speaker 9 yeah here's what i did wrong and then analyze it and then take the blame for it and then not kind of like blame someone else for it and say but it's his fault and she her fault and this fault and that fault no you've got to go and just look in the mirror and say you up and here's what you did wrong and then just write that down and then deal with that and improve on it the next time.

Speaker 9 So that's exactly what I've always done when I had a failure like that.

Speaker 1 That's a great answer. Yeah.
Yeah, just

Speaker 6 admitting your fuck-ups goes a long way if you're being honest about it.

Speaker 9 Oh, absolutely. You got to be honest and just say, you know, I did something wrong here, because otherwise, you would never learn.
Yeah, you never learn. If you don't admit it and just recognize

Speaker 9 the problems that you had, I mean, you would never learn.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you brought up the governorship, the governator, which was an awesome nickname

Speaker 6 that you had. I mean, how could you vote against the governator?

Speaker 6 You had like a built-in campaign slogan there, especially for re-election. So there's another movie star that's, I think, getting into politics.

Speaker 6 Kind of followed, I guess you could say, like a similar trajectory to yourself, different a little bit, but The Rock, Dwayne Johnson.

Speaker 6 I feel like he's priming us to get into politics at some point. Have you reached out to him? Have you talked to him about a future in politics?

Speaker 9 No, no,

Speaker 9 I've known him for many, many years, and

Speaker 9 he and I are friends. And

Speaker 9 he has

Speaker 9 been kind enough when I ran for governor and then became governor to take over the after-school program movement that I was in charge of that I started 30 years ago, after-school all-stars.

Speaker 9 So he was the honorary chair for a year until we found somebody else

Speaker 9 to do it. And he did a great, great job.
And he was very, very helpful.

Speaker 9 And he was very helpful with my race for governor and everything like that. So we have really been communicating and I've admired his career.

Speaker 9 And so he's an extraordinary human being with a tremendous amount of willpower and multiple talents, you know, someone that is so well versed in wrestling and then in

Speaker 9 acting, show business and all of that. I mean, you know, he's really, really talented.
And so I'm very happy for him. And if he ever, you know, reaches.

Speaker 9 across the you know and wants to go and get out of acting and go into politics, I'm more than happy to talk to him about that if he needs or wants any advice from me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to talk to you a little bit about your movies. So we're children of the 90s, so you were a seminal part of our childhood.

Speaker 1 The first question I have about your movies, when you were doing

Speaker 1 Terminator 2, did you at any point realize that you were going to scare an entire country of children with T-1000?

Speaker 1 And then actually, in a weird way, like I grew up being like Arnold Schwarzenegger, would save my life if I ever get a robot that's coming after me.

Speaker 1 Because T-1000 was the scariest thing I've ever seen in my life. And you, you sit, you, thankfully, you were there to save the day.

Speaker 9 Well, I mean,

Speaker 9 I have to say that Jim Cameron, the director who wrote, you know,

Speaker 9 Terminator 2 and Terminator 1, of course, too, and all that.

Speaker 9 uh and directed it uh he he really came up with this concept and i remember remember that when he came to me and he says, in this movie, you will play the good guy.

Speaker 9 And I said to myself, why is he doing that?

Speaker 9 It worked so well in the first one when it was really the machine, the bad guy that just destroys everything. Why would he want to change that? And

Speaker 9 so I had kind of a negative attitude about it. until I read the script.

Speaker 9 When I read the script, I got it. And I just thought he did such a brilliant job with that.

Speaker 9 How he turned that whole thing around and how he had determined to come back to actually save

Speaker 9 humanity and the human race and not the machines. And how he then created this T1000.

Speaker 9 I kind of played the outdated model, the T800. So then there was that T81000 that could do all kinds of additional stuff that I could not do.
And so it was a real, real threat.

Speaker 9 And I think that's what created the suspense in the movie and why it became the most popular movie that year. It was the number one box office success, not only domestically, but also internationally.

Speaker 9 You know, and I cannot even take the credit for that because Jim Cameron really.

Speaker 9 has to get all the credit for that because he created the characters and he directed it. So he was really the genius of this whole thing.
It's an incredible movie.

Speaker 1 Also, how often do people ask you to say, get to the chopper?

Speaker 1 I know that's a different movie, but day to day.

Speaker 9 Well, I mean, it's like the people when I ride the bike

Speaker 9 through the streets in Santa Monica or Venice, I mean, people call out many times, scream loud, get to the chopper.

Speaker 9 And I say, that's really funny, you know.

Speaker 1 Put the cookie down.

Speaker 1 And I said, you know, says,

Speaker 9 Someone will come up to me and just say,

Speaker 9 I'll be back in a very dramatic way and stuff. So, you know, people throw my movie lines around all the time.

Speaker 9 I hear it all the time. And the funny thing about it is, I tell you guys that you never really know

Speaker 9 when you do the movie that this is going to be a very much quoted movie line. that people are going to like that and they're going to repeat it over and over and all the stuff.
You don't know.

Speaker 9 when we shot, I'll be back in Terminator 1, we did not know that anyone is gonna repeat that line.

Speaker 9 And

Speaker 9 the same thing was, you know, we get to the chopper. Well, get to the chopper, I think people just

Speaker 9 people just think it's funny because I don't say chopper, you know, with an honor and I just say choppa. And so they

Speaker 9 imitate that when they scream loud on the street, get to the chopper.

Speaker 9 You know, so that's the funny thing.

Speaker 6 It's just the way I pronounce things that makes it then funny and that's why people repeat it is memorable they're so memorable yeah that's the part yeah yeah yeah i mean terminator 2 was a great film i again like i'm i'm a little bit nervous interviewing you just because i've seen you so much and you were such like a big part of my childhood as a guy that that played terminator you were you were like first on the scene for skynet what are your actual feelings on ai were you thinking like ai is going to actually destroy the world

Speaker 9 well interestingly, that when I filmed Terminator One,

Speaker 9 I really looked at it as a purely science fiction type of a movie. Then,

Speaker 9 as we went on with time, decade after decade, all of a sudden I realized: oh my God,

Speaker 9 we are actually going in that direction.

Speaker 9 And what Jim Cameron wrote about is going to happen.

Speaker 9 You know, that the machines are now so sophisticated, so far ahead of human way of thinking,

Speaker 9 that they are so far ahead. And now the big fear is, you know, how do you make sure they don't become self-aware, like in Terminator 2, and where

Speaker 9 the machines take over? You know, so this is, I think, the fear that everyone has. Where is this going to lead? And how do we still control all of this?

Speaker 9 And how can we stop it from getting to that point?

Speaker 9 So So

Speaker 9 that's why I always said that Terminator 1

Speaker 9 was written so brilliantly by Jim Cameron that originally it was kind of like a B movie,

Speaker 9 an action movie. But then when the movie came out, they realized, wow, this is intellectually speaking, I mean, really a very sophisticated movie.
not just an action movie.

Speaker 9 The action is there, yeah, it's the visual kind of feast.

Speaker 9 But the meaning behind all of that and the the writing behind it and what it meant i mean that's why i think time magazine for instance picked it as one of the 10 top movies of the year and they normally never pick an action movie like that yeah so i think that people really were celebrating the brilliant writing and the sophistication of the script that Jim Cameron wrote at that time.

Speaker 6 It also taught us that if that ever happens, we just need Arnold.

Speaker 6 We just need to call you the day personally and you'll stop. That's it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's it. To a bunch of kids, you were like a true hero.

Speaker 1 Are you?

Speaker 1 I don't, I assume you're still lifting.

Speaker 9 What do you do?

Speaker 9 I go every day.

Speaker 9 I bike down to the gym and I work out every day for a half hour, 45 minutes with weights. And so I do a combination of cardiovascular training and also weight training.

Speaker 9 And, you know, it's kind of like an addiction of mine. So I have to do it every day.
This is what sets off the day.

Speaker 9 My day starts out by feeding the animals, you know, my pig and my three dogs and my miniature donkey and my miniature pony and all those animals.

Speaker 9 They come into the house and I feed them and then they all go out and they have a good time. So it's really funny.
And then after that, I've done that. That takes me usually an hour.

Speaker 9 Then after that, I go to the gym and bicycle down and then I work out and then I come back into my work.

Speaker 1 Do you still have, do you still go for like max on anything? Do you still bench the squat? No.

Speaker 9 No, I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 9 I had my first heart surgery in 1997.

Speaker 9 And so after the heart surgery, I was advised not to kind of lift. that heavy anymore

Speaker 9 and so i then did more reps and less weight because i didn't want to kind of like put extra pressure on the valves. You know, I had to

Speaker 9 replace my aortic valve and my pulmonary valve.

Speaker 9 So they said, don't put any additional pressure on those valves, otherwise, they would not last for 15-20 years, which they will if you don't lift any heavy weights. And so I was very lucky.

Speaker 9 I was like, you know, they lasted like, you know, 25 years

Speaker 9 almost. And

Speaker 9 because I listened to the doctors and I was watching a little bit more what I eat, I don't eat as much meat anymore, even though I love it, you know, making a steak every so often and eating minischnitzel and all this stuff.

Speaker 9 But I mean,

Speaker 9 I've cut down around 70% of my meat intake, which is better for the heart and for your health. And

Speaker 9 that's it, you know. So I just listened to the doctors.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Do you, this is a random name.
You might not know who I'm about to say, but do you recognize the the name Steve Mahaloch at all?

Speaker 4 Sure.

Speaker 9 He was Mr. America back in, I think, in the 70s or

Speaker 9 beginning 80s. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Did you ever work out with him? Did you ever pass? Yeah,

Speaker 9 I worked out.

Speaker 9 He was always known for his wide shoulders

Speaker 9 and for his great, great build. I mean, he, interestingly enough, he was one of those typical American bodybuilders that, you know, that had kind of the wide shoulders, small waist.

Speaker 9 He was good looking.

Speaker 9 He just, when, whenever he went to the Mr. Universe contest, people knew, oh, this is the American, Mr.

Speaker 1 America. He knew all religions.

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was fantastic.

Speaker 1 He's incredible, incredible guy. Yeah.
Yeah. That makes me happy that you knew him.

Speaker 6 We've got a friend of his that works with us here, and he's always talking about Steve Mahali. Very versed in every religion.
He knew all religions.

Speaker 1 Yes, great guy. And incredible strength.
He trained with him.

Speaker 1 So he's, you know, it's, I'm just fascinated with the bodybuilding and just, I mean, it's, it's crazy to watch because you said it's like an addiction.

Speaker 1 How, like, when you felt at your peak, how good did you feel every day? Like, is it, do you think about that?

Speaker 1 Do you think like, man, when I was 19, 20 years old and I was at my absolute peak, like I just walk around and felt good every day.

Speaker 9 Yeah,

Speaker 9 I think it is.

Speaker 9 I mean, it really is a great feeling, you know, to be strong. It's a great feeling to have energy.
I was running every day in the deep sand

Speaker 9 before working out and sometimes after working out. And you just feel like, you know, King Kong.
Yeah. It was great.
And to be able to lift these weights.

Speaker 9 I mean, I was deadlifting then over 700 pounds and I was bench pressing with over 500 and squatting with over 600.

Speaker 9 And so, you know, I was competing in powerlifting also and in Olympic lifting and weightlifting. So, I mean, I felt fantastic.
And I felt,

Speaker 9 I think this is the thing that I'm talking about in

Speaker 9 be useful, is how important it is that we do something physical. Yes.
You know, when you train really hard. And it doesn't just have to be bodybuilding.
Anything where you exert.

Speaker 9 and you do something that you feel like really productive, productive, and you've done something for yourself. You've gotten in great shape because of this training and all this.

Speaker 9 It doesn't matter what it is, you can walk up Mount Everest and climb up there.

Speaker 9 It makes you feel good that you've accomplished something really great. And I think it gives you a positive attitude.

Speaker 9 And I see, for instance, when I go to the gym in the morning, you know, I feel like okay.

Speaker 9 But then after the workout and I'm basically back, I feel great.

Speaker 9 It feels like you're going from a black and white movie to a color movie, you know, all of sudden, because it's just the way you see things over sudden in a much more positive way.

Speaker 9 And this is why I say to people, I said, the working out is not just to get a bigger bicep or bigger delts and bigger pectoral muscles and abs and all this.

Speaker 9 It's just what it does also psychologically and mentally for you. It just gives you such a boost.
And this is something.

Speaker 9 why I say I'm addicted to working out because I have to do it every day and it makes me feel good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you you get the endorphins going.

Speaker 6 I mean, the famous quote from Pumping Iron: it feels like you're coming. You're coming all the time when you're working out.
Yes. Do you still get that feeling?

Speaker 9 Well, that was

Speaker 9 more a publicity stunt.

Speaker 6 So you didn't feel like you were coming. I've been working out, trying to come.

Speaker 1 I've been hating to come.

Speaker 6 I've been trying to come for 15 years in the gym, and I've never gotten there. I thought there was something wrong with me.

Speaker 9 No, I don't think everything is okay with you.

Speaker 1 Everything is okay with you.

Speaker 9 No, but you have to understand that in those days, to go and to get

Speaker 9 big stories written as a bodybuilder. As a football player, you could get any story written or as a tennis player or baseball player.
You could get any story written that you wanted to.

Speaker 9 But as a bodybuilder, it was very, very difficult. So you had to be kind of like really way out there of the things that you say so that it's quotable.

Speaker 9 And then people say, oh my God, I got to write a story on this guy. This guy just said, you know, he's coming all the time.
He's coming in the gym, pumping up. He's coming backstage.

Speaker 9 He's coming at home.

Speaker 1 And day and night, he's coming.

Speaker 9 I mean, this is like unbelievable. And so then they wrote the story.
So it actually made it. And my goal was to actually

Speaker 9 write and, you know, my take on it. I mean, I always knew how to sell.
That's why one of the chapters in my book, be useful, is sell, sell, sell, because it's all about how do you sell something.

Speaker 9 So I, when I met Mohammed Ali,

Speaker 9 I was so excited about talking to him because he was the person that was selling boxing in the 70s more than anyone.

Speaker 9 And there was just such excitement when he fought because he was Muhammad Ali and he was more than just a fighter.

Speaker 9 And the way he talked, his poetry, how generous he was, how he gave his money away, and his religion, but everything was just interesting about him and i said myself well i want to be the muhammad ali of bodybuilding i want to really not only lift weights for myself but i want to lift the entire sport how can i do that and so i even hired a publicist for one of the competitions that we had out here that franco colombo and i organized called the mr international And this publicist got us on talk shows and interviews and the magazines and newspapers.

Speaker 1 But we we knew that we had to say outrageous things so that people go and write about it and that's it it worked 100 yeah it did yeah it really did you had me fooled it did i mean it also made sense because like this guy's just pumping so much iron like he looks his muscles are enormous i just you know i would feel i i've never felt uh as good like waking up that you like in your entire life you've probably felt better every single day than i have ever felt so i i'm i aspire to be like that very nice So that means that you're working out every day.

Speaker 1 I'm not. I need to.
I need to do something physical every day. I use my mind.
I need to do something physical.

Speaker 6 I had a question about, you were talking about like reading a script and being like, this is a very good script. I think it's going to be a great movie.

Speaker 6 I think that there are a lot of movies that you're in where you completely, you elevate the movie to being a classic. Like I'm thinking Predator, I'm thinking Commando.

Speaker 6 I'm thinking all the Terminators you're in.

Speaker 6 But when you're reading a movie, are you imagining yourself as that character? Or what about a script that comes across your desk?

Speaker 6 Do you look at it and you're like, yes, this is a very good, this is a good project for me to be involved with?

Speaker 9 Yeah, so I read it, of course, with me in mind

Speaker 9 when someone sends me a script and says, I want you to play, you know, Max in this movie. So then you, of course, you visualize yourself.

Speaker 9 playing that character and the way it's written and all that stuff. But to me, the important thing is always, you know, how

Speaker 9 great is the action

Speaker 9 in the script?

Speaker 9 How great is the story itself?

Speaker 9 Does it have any emotional value? The way it goes up and down the emotions and all that. Does it have any kind of sense of humor in there?

Speaker 9 And this is a story that will sell worldwide.

Speaker 9 Because I'm not interested in just doing a project for one country, let's say America. You know, to me, that is great to entertain the American people.

Speaker 9 That's my number one goal because that's where most of the money is in box office or on TV and so on.

Speaker 9 But I also have to think at the same time about, you know, is this something that will sell well, you know, in South Africa or in the Middle East or in Australia

Speaker 9 or in Asia and stuff like that. So I always try to think, and

Speaker 9 I've always been a global person because in bodybuilding, you travel around the world. So I always felt kind of like I should entertain the world, not just one country.
And I think

Speaker 9 it used to be

Speaker 9 back in the 70s and 80s, or in the beginning of the 80s, the studios always kind of frowned up on that idea.

Speaker 9 Because they said the only three places that are important are America, Japan, and Germany. That's where we sell most of our tickets.

Speaker 9 And I said, well, I said, but it's a limited way of thinking because you should actually groom the audience in other countries as well and not just get stuck with those three countries.

Speaker 9 And they didn't understand it when I said, I want to do Conan the Barbarian. I want to promote it in 10 different countries.
They said, well, we don't have 10 countries to go to. I said, bullshit.

Speaker 4 I said, create it.

Speaker 9 I said, the movie is coming out in France. the movie is coming out in England, in Germany, in Austria, in Holland, in Finland, in Denmark, in Sweden, in Italy, in Spain, and all those places.

Speaker 9 They said, so I want to go there.

Speaker 9 And I want to promote myself and I want to promote the movie.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 And they said, well, no actor has ever done that. I said, what do I care what some actor did or not did? I said, I always break new grounds.

Speaker 9 I said, that's my mission in life. I never wait for someone else to show me the way.
I said, I

Speaker 9 show the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 And so

Speaker 9 they sent me to those countries. And then afterwards, when I came back, they said, oh, my God, this is amazing.
You know, we doubled

Speaker 9 the income

Speaker 9 that the ticket sales that we thought we're going to make because you were there in those countries. I said, well, hello, of course.
And so I always promoted my movies internationally.

Speaker 9 And I always kind of looked at it as an international, you know,

Speaker 9 in an...

Speaker 9 you know, marketplace, international marketplace rather than just domestic marketplace. And

Speaker 9 I think it all all has to do with that I was more international thinking coming from Europe, from Austria. And number two, because

Speaker 9 I studied economics in college and it was very clear that there is a growing international kind of marketplace and everything and that we will be in a global economy eventually.

Speaker 9 And so this was now in the 70s. I'm talking about.
And exactly that's the direction we went. And so I'm so happy that I did travel around internationally and promoted my movies.

Speaker 9 The same is with the book, Be Useful. I do the same thing.

Speaker 9 I go to England, I go to other countries, Germany, to Austria, and stuff like that, and promote the book internationally because I wanted to sell internationally.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So this has been incredible, Arnold.
It's like a thrill for us. Everyone should go buy your book, Be Useful, Seven Tools for Life.

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Speaker 1 Maybe this has been done, but this is just an idea, free idea for you for a documentary, which everyone should go watch your documentary that came out a few months ago.

Speaker 1 But Schwarzenegger versus Stallone was one of the best rivalries

Speaker 1 because the world just got bigger movies and bigger guns and more action. And the fact that you guys ended your rivalry by

Speaker 1 investing in a planet Hollywood together is the the most 90s story possible. Maybe we get that.
Like, would that be?

Speaker 1 It was a fun time. Do you look back on it, even though there was some real bad blood? Like, look back on it and be like, you know, that was kind of good for the audience.

Speaker 4 Well, it was also good for us. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Remember that

Speaker 9 Stallone

Speaker 9 by being so good

Speaker 9 made me better.

Speaker 9 So he gets kind of like a competition.

Speaker 9 If you go to the Olympics and you're the only one that is running the the 100-meter sprint, you know, you're not going to get the performance out of it as if a bunch of guys are chasing you.

Speaker 9 And so it's always kind of the competition that creates performance. And so Stallone, by being good,

Speaker 9 made me better. And by me getting better, made him better.

Speaker 9 And so we kind of drove each other up and up and up in making more and more money in the box office, using bigger and bigger knives, killing more and more people in the screen, using bigger and bigger guns and all of this crazy stuff.

Speaker 9 And, you know, but one thing was always clear, that we respected each other. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I always respected him for his talent he had in directing, his talent he had in writing, his talent he had in acting, and in all of this kind of, and also in painting and other things like that.

Speaker 9 And he respected me.

Speaker 9 So now, of course, when we did our Planet Hollywood deal and we became partners in the Planet Hollywood deal, then we really started hanging out together, flying around the world and promoting the restaurant chain.

Speaker 9 And we had a great, great time. We became great friends.

Speaker 1 We need the documentary. It's a great documentary.

Speaker 6 I don't know how many debates have happened all over America back in like 1994.

Speaker 1 Like Arnold Schwarzenegger could kick.

Speaker 6 Sly Stallone's ass. No, he couldn't.
Like that was, that was actually like a talking point that we would have. We'd sit down and debate that.
For the record, I think you would have kicked his ass.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take that as a yes. I'm going to take that as a yes.
I'm going to take that as a bat.

Speaker 1 It would have had a great battle. Yes.

Speaker 6 Yes. Was there a movie where you went to and you're watching Sly, and you're like, you know what? That is a very cool gun that he has.
I need to make a note of that.

Speaker 6 And we need that gun with a modification when I come back in my next film because I can't let him outgun me.

Speaker 9 Well, every movie that Sly did,

Speaker 9 I just watched it

Speaker 9 a few times and then I just called the guys, the prop guys on the movie on my next movie and said, okay, watch this movie and get me bigger guns.

Speaker 9 It was not even a modification. I remember that sly in Rambo ran around with a gun, a machine gun under his arm.

Speaker 9 And I said, guys, I want a machine gun that is mounted on a tank or that is mounted on a helicopter that I am using. And so that's exactly what they then created.

Speaker 9 And so it was like, it was total madness. And I said, what kind of a, I called the prop cast, they said, what kind of a knife did you use in this movie?

Speaker 9 And they said, well, it was like a 12-inch blade. And I said, yeah, I want to have a 24-inch blade.
I said, fuck it.

Speaker 9 So it was like, it was always like outdoing each other. And I think that was the fun of it all.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Iron Sharp design. It's great.
It's great. Well, Arnold, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 One anecdote.

Speaker 1 I did actually meet you at one point uh in 2014 it's probably one of my favorite brushes with a celebrity uh story that i tell i i saw you in santa monica outside of a hotel and i asked you for a picture and you smiled and said sure no problem and then just didn't break stride and got right in your car and i was like that was the coolest thing ever so we never got the picture but it was awesome well i mean but but that's the interesting thing because

Speaker 9 When I say, yes, you can take the picture, then you just go and have to take it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 people because if you would stop every single time yes i can't get to my car yes it was it was perfect i i so i there's some people that get with the program right away so they walk in front of me have the camera and they just take a picture of us together as we walk and then they get the picture yeah but the

Speaker 9 people who say oh he didn't stop well he didn't say stop yeah he said can i take a picture and i said yes you can take a picture but he didn't say stop and take the picture because otherwise it would have said you know let's walk and take the picture.

Speaker 1 He didn't do two at the same time.

Speaker 9 Yeah, no, it was.

Speaker 1 I loved it. I loved every second of it.

Speaker 9 The next time you come out here, I will not stop either. But I mean, it just

Speaker 1 run with you. Yeah.

Speaker 9 We walk together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I really did. Like, I've told everyone it, and I was like, but that was the coolest thing ever because he was like so effortless.
So you were just like, sure, no problem. And just kept on going.

Speaker 1 I was like, that was awesome. I love Arnold.
That's funny. That's funny.
All right.

Speaker 9 Well, anyway, it was great to talk to you guys. You're doing a great job.
Keep it up, okay?

Speaker 9 And we do it again. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 We'll come visit you. We'll come and do it in person next time.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you get a workout. Yeah, about that.

Speaker 9 And you come to Gord's Gym. Yes.

Speaker 1 Done. Thank you.

Speaker 9 We do your show out of Gord's Gym.

Speaker 1 I love it. We absolutely will do it.
Yes. I'm in 100%.

Speaker 1 All right. Thank you so much, Arnold.

Speaker 4 Okay, let's wrap up with Fire Fest of the week.

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Speaker 4 PFT, what's your fire fest?

Speaker 7 Oh, good question. My fire fest of the week is I've been on an extended trip here.

Speaker 4 I went home,

Speaker 7 northern Virginia, for Christmas. Now I'm out in Arizona.
I've been traveling around a lot, driving, staying in different places. I packed at the last minute when I...

Speaker 7 left initially to go to Virginia. I thought I threw in everything that I needed for this trip, but you know as well as I do, when you pack for a trip, you always forget one item.

Speaker 7 What would be the one item that you would want to make double sure that you packed enough of?

Speaker 4 Yeah, you went robot voice there. Say it again.

Speaker 7 What would be the one item that you would want to make doubly sure that you packed enough of?

Speaker 4 Underwear.

Speaker 7 Underwear. Yeah, correct.
Underwear. I believe I packed like five pairs of underwear and I would, I just grabbed a whole bunch of them.

Speaker 7 I was like, this seems, this seems like the right amount of of underwear. So as of right now, as I'm speaking, I'm out of underwear.

Speaker 7 So I have to try to go find some more underwear tomorrow to buy. That's been a pain in the ass.

Speaker 7 And also, I've, I've realized on this trip just how out of shape I am. And I'm going to chalk some of it up to altitude because I went up to the Grand Canyon a couple of days ago, did a hike.

Speaker 7 Grand Canyon, fantastic. Awesome.
Five stars, five balls. tremendous review for the grand canyon great job god uh i walked i did a four mile hike So you go down and I went down about two miles.

Speaker 7 And I was like, oh, this is pretty easy. Two miles, this is nothing.
I'm barely even sweating right now. And then I turned around and started to walk back up.

Speaker 7 And after about, I'd say 30 seconds, I realized what a big, make, big mistake I'd made

Speaker 7 not factoring that going uphill is going to be way, way harder than going downhill.

Speaker 7 So my body, my lower body has completely revolted against my upper body. And it's sore like first day of squat sore.

Speaker 7 So I'm in bad physical shape right now, but I also did get to say to myself, well, I can eat whatever I want. So I'm going to eat a bunch of steak, get that protein in.

Speaker 7 So I'm out of shape. And then I'm also getting fatter because I'm eating more

Speaker 7 because I think that I just worked out. When in reality, I did a normal workout.
And now I'm like, oh, that was such a hard workout that now I get to treat myself. So double whammy.

Speaker 4 That is a double whammy. I have a reverse for you for the underwear thing.
And this is,

Speaker 4 this is, it shouldn't be a complaint, but it is because I, I'm just going to complain about it.

Speaker 4 I, I'm also in Arizona and I, I took my family down here for the week because I was like, if I have to work during Christmas, New Year's week, like, I don't want to be away from my family for a whole week when we have a week off.

Speaker 4 So we're all down here and we got here and there's a washer and dryer in the place that I rented.

Speaker 4 That's also a really bad feeling because being like, I could have just, I could have just worn the clothes I wore. I could have just not packed.
I would have just not packed.

Speaker 4 I overpacked by so much because i'm a simple guy like i could have i could have done a backpack and i would have just done the laundry like twice i would have been fine you do a load every night yeah like but like really when if you have a washer and dryer you need maybe three pairs of underwear and then like up one pair of pants and like two sweatshirts and you're good

Speaker 7 yeah so it's very true i i've thought about doing the hotel uh laundry concierge thing and then you look at the price for those and it's like i could i could do like four four days of laundry, and that's going to run me like 200 bucks.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you could just buy new underwear for I'm just gonna, I'm gonna buy new underwear, or at the very least, turn the ones that I have inside out. Yeah, no problem.

Speaker 4 Um, all right, my fire fest um is it's something that happens every time around this year, but it is going to be January 1st.

Speaker 4 And um, diet does start on Tuesday, and then PFT, we have, I have you, I don't know if you've thought about this, but I have the double whammy of um

Speaker 4 our birthday month is coming coming up and it's our last birthday in our 30s.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I am trying to tell myself that when I turn 40, I have to turn 40 in good shape, in the best shape of my life. So this is like, this is basically diet starts tomorrow

Speaker 4 like on steroids. It's everything.

Speaker 7 Your life starts tomorrow.

Speaker 4 My life starts tomorrow. Like I have told myself I'm going to turn 40 when I turn 40.
And we're not turning 40 for another 13 months.

Speaker 4 So people, please don't say that we're 40 at the end of January this year.

Speaker 4 But when I turn 40, I would like to be in good shape because I feel like once you turn 40, it's like what shape you're in at 40 is what shape you're going to be in for the next 20 years.

Speaker 4 I know that doesn't make sense, but that's just what I've told myself. So I'm going to put in a very concerted effort starting on Tuesday.
I want everyone to be, please be, you know. supportive of me.

Speaker 4 Max and I have a lifting plan we're going to get into. Max, you know, we're doing that.
We're actually going to start that Monday, Max, just so you know. Love it.

Speaker 4 I don't know if I'll be there in time Monday, but Tuesday, I'm in. All right, we're going to start Tuesday.
We'll start Tuesday.

Speaker 4 Yeah, let's

Speaker 4 Tuesday. We're in.
We're not going to go ahead and schedule a year.

Speaker 7 I've kind of taken a little bit of the opposite approach to it, where I've always thought that nothing that you do before you're 40 really matters.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 once you're 40, you're an adult. And you're not, you're right.

Speaker 7 Like if you turn 40 and you're not in good shape, nobody ever gets in great shape after after they're 40 unless they're one, divorced or two, like a former funny, chubby actor that then converts into being like a superhero actor.

Speaker 7 And then you can get in really good shape. But besides that, you don't really clean your life up that much in terms of your physique.

Speaker 7 But I also just think that like when you're 40, that's when you're grown up. That's when your health starts to matter to you.

Speaker 7 So I look at my 39th year as being like, this is, this is the last hurrah. Like get it it all out of your, do all the drugs in the next year.
And then you turn 40 and then boom, adult.

Speaker 4 Okay. All right.
Maybe I'll go with that method. I just, I feel like,

Speaker 4 okay, yeah, I like that better. I like that better.
It's easier, right?

Speaker 7 Like, we're, we're still kids, big cat.

Speaker 4 We are still kids. We, we could still get arrested and people would be like, well, they're just kids.
Yeah, they're just rascals.

Speaker 7 We have one more year of being a rascal.

Speaker 4 I remember I had a buddy who got arrested when we were like, maybe 23. And it was just like,

Speaker 4 we're not kids anymore.

Speaker 4 You can't get arrested in your 20s and be like, ah, it's just kids being kids.

Speaker 7 The type of crime really matters.

Speaker 7 You can't get like a drunk in public after you're 30. Yeah.
But if you're in your 20s, then it's like, okay, they're still figuring out how all that works. But

Speaker 7 yeah, I'm just going to tell myself I got one more year of being a kid. Yeah.
Just a kid.

Speaker 4 By the way, before we kick to the lottery ball, we got breaking moose. Breaking moose.

Speaker 4 So our aforementioned friend, Sam Schwartzeen, just sent us a video, PFT, of a drunk Browns fan leaving the stadium. And

Speaker 4 his customized jersey is Skidmark.

Speaker 4 So I just tweeted, and I'm just, I don't know where this guy is.

Speaker 4 I don't know where, you know, like what his life is about, but I just tweeted that if the Browns get to the Super Bowl, Skidmark is getting one of the tickets from me and you.

Speaker 4 Okay, that's fair. I think that's fair.
It'll probably be Skidmark.

Speaker 7 Probably Skid Mark and that other drunk Browns fan.

Speaker 4 The drunk guy. Yes.
Yes. Skidmark.
The drunk guy.

Speaker 4 And what makes it a lot of people?

Speaker 4 And a lot of people say, tweet me the Leo meme on Tuesday when they're like, when you said the drunk Browns fan is getting a ticket.

Speaker 7 What makes this video so much better is that he's being carried by his buddy rocking a Trent Richardson jersey.

Speaker 4 Yes. Yes.
Oh man, Skid Mark Browns fans rule. Congrats to the Browns in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 That was the conclusion of the Zoom show. We'll see everyone back in the studio on Tuesday.
We'll have a show, so we're going to recap everything from the weekend.

Speaker 4 Please do tune into the Barstool, Arizona Bowl on Saturday. And thank you for everyone for being patient with a couple of Zoom shows.

Speaker 4 You know, we don't love to do them, but we had to do them this week. So

Speaker 4 we did tape a lottery ball. So we have a lottery ball.
So let's kick it to ourselves with a lottery ball.

Speaker 1 Okay, last of the year.

Speaker 1 Numbers 8, 18, 40, 71, twenty,

Speaker 1 three,

Speaker 1 twenty-eight, pug, ten,

Speaker 1 twenty-eight, pug,

Speaker 6 give me that eight, give me that eight,

Speaker 6 give me that eight

Speaker 6 long wait here.

Speaker 6 It's like the ball waiting for the ball to drop. Fitting,

Speaker 1 ten, nine,

Speaker 1 eight, eight, seven, six,

Speaker 1 five,

Speaker 1 four,

Speaker 1 three,

Speaker 1 two,

Speaker 1 one.

Speaker 1 Nine.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 nine.

Speaker 4 That was thrilling.

Speaker 8 I like that.

Speaker 6 Love you guys.

Speaker 7 See you next year.

Speaker 7 I don't know what I'm about to say. I'd say anyway.

Speaker 7 Today's a mother day to find you shine away.

Speaker 7 I'll be coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 7 Your love, okay,

Speaker 7 your love of me, your love of me.

Speaker 7 Make

Speaker 7 on

Speaker 7 me,

Speaker 7 make

Speaker 7 me

Speaker 7 uncomfortable. I'll be

Speaker 7 gone

Speaker 7 for

Speaker 7 you.

Speaker 7 Needless to say,

Speaker 7 I'm all designed.

Speaker 7 But he's stole it away.

Speaker 7 Though they learn that life is okay,

Speaker 7 say after me.

Speaker 1 Life's no better to be safe. It's all good.
To be safe, it's all good.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 up.

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 when I drop to

Speaker 1 you,

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 1 looking

Speaker 1 for keeping

Speaker 1 save on

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me up

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone,

Speaker 1 to die, to die, to the

Speaker 1 death, to the death, to the death