Arnold Schwarzenegger, Week 17 Picks And Preview + Should We Feel Bad For Russ And Browns Are In The Playoffs

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have an awesome interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Probably a lifelong dream for me and PFT to get him on the show.
It was via Zoom, but I think we have a future date where we're maybe going to go to LA and lift with him. so very very fun interview

when is like i just had a smile on my face the entire time we're also going to do picks and preview for week 17 it's just me and pft again because it is a vacation week uh it's going to be abbreviated we're going to fire through the games so we're ready to roll we have the arizona bowl we're both in arizona right now we're the arizona bowl on saturday tune in two o'clock uh mountain time four o'clock eastern time barstool.tv and the cw we're going to be on tv but we got a great show for you we're gonna do a extra hot seat cool throne because we didn't have a show on wednesday fire fest of the week when your home system system or appliance breaks down, American Home Shield will help fix or replace the covered item, no matter its age. Visit AHS.com slash listen for 20% off any plan.
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Let's get into everything. We have Joe Flacco.
We're going to talk Thursday Night Football. So, okay, let's go.
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Welcome to part of my take present about martial sports welcome to part of my take today is friday december 29th and pft joe flacco is elite he is fucking elite and the cleveland browns clinched a playoff spot and watching this game the the thought occurred to me what if we had a browns line super bowl how cool would that be well we'd be out of a lot of money that's what we'd have yeah willing to sacrifice that just for the good of america i think our country needs something like that the battle for lake erie i i think we're also in a spot where like that's getting ahead of ourselves a little bit if we just get stafford versus the the lions and flacco versus the ravens that would be pretty nice. Like in terms of storylines and drama.
Yeah. One thing at a time.
Let's go baby steps to that. But yes, the Browns clinch a playoff spot.
Good for them. Incredible season.
They've been like the most injured team. It feels like, and like we we've talked about it pretty much every single week, the roller coaster of their season where they've had big win followed by big injury, followed by big win, followed by big injury over and over and over again.
Joe Flacco is their starting quarterback. And I feel so much more confident about the Cleveland Browns in 2023 than if Deshaun Watson had played the whole season.
I can't believe I'm saying that sentence, but I fully believe it. Like I think if you're're a Browns fan and you know the history of your franchise and you know how the season has gone, Joe Flacco with how he's playing right now is the perfect guy for this because you can basically say to yourself, like, what if he just gets hot? He's done it before.
What if he just gets hot? We know that he can do it. Why not with this team? And he's hot right now.
He's so hot. And he had, there was one very funny moment.
I don't know if you're watching the Prime Vision broadcast, but our good friend Sam Schwartstein, he started doing like a picture-in-picture talking about Joe Flacco, whether or not he's elite. He's like, yes, by our advanced metrics, they created like all these advanced Sabre metrics to determine whether or not a quarterback is elite or not.
And then Sam was like, we've debated this for, it feels like 12 years now, but I can say that right now, Joe Flacco, yes, he is an elite quarterback. Half a second later, he does the pick six where he's falling backwards and like two pump fakes gets taken back to the end zone.
It was a very funny moment on live TV. But the way that Flacco is playing right now, and he did it without amari cooper so last week amari cooper set records in terms of like how how many yards he had he was just like dominating every single ball in the air and then this week it's like you know what i'm just gonna throw the ball to uh david and joku a hundred times the first half and we're not gonna miss a beat and yeah the browns like i i put a bet on them about a month ago 50 50 to one.
I'm feeling better about that bet than I'm about my bills bet right now. Yeah.
I mean, the Browns are hot and they, it is really just like when you talk about hope, it's Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco is, he trades in hope because you know that he has that in him somewhere.
He is that guy. That's the whole conversation about when he got the big contract when he won the super bowl everything he is that like there is that guy inside of him and there's a lot of quarterbacks in the league who who might be better like week to week or more consistent but they don't have that that that thing where you're like but what if he just gets hot it's a very eli manning ass thing and i was actually thinking about it like what if joe flacco wins if Joe Flacco wins the Super Bowl with the Browns, he has to be a Hall of Famer, right? Yeah, 100%.
And it would be perfect, too. Former Baltimore Raven winning the Super Bowl with the Browns.
The Baltimore Ravens used to be the Cleveland Browns, took the franchise, then Cleveland takes Baltimore's quarterback and wins one. That would be awesome.
Yeah. It's set up perfectly.
So I'm excited for the Browns in playoffs. I have a question for Max.
Max, as an Italian, why don't you show Joe Flacco the respect that you show Tommy DeVito? Flacco doesn't sound as Italian as DeVito does. That's true.
That's true. Yeah.
That's fair. Yeah.
His name ends in a vowel. Yeah.
Yeah. It does end in a vowel but tommy devito sounds like a like a more italian name it just does sounds like a fuck boy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but yeah joe flacco is joe flacco in the italian american sports hall of fame he should be he absolutely should be yeah i don't know what it is i guess he's like too steady too even keeled we need to celebrate italians like joe flacco just as much as we celebrate italians like tommy devito that's all i'm saying yeah i'd agree i'd agree um okay so let's get into the picks uh and preview for week 17 so to set the stage we are like i said this is technically a vacation week so we're on zoom um hank and jake are not here uh we're onide.
So it sounds shitty. Tweet at PFT and blame him because his computer had a corrupted file, which PFT, you weren't there for the very funny moment of Max and Evan and I were sitting on the Riverside waiting for you.
And you texted me and Max being like, Max, it says there's a disk server corrupted. And Max and I were just like, Max doesn't know anything about computers like nothing i just i had to tell somebody and i knew like what am i going to do be like hey big cat my computer is a corrupted disk area right now i knew that you're all like for that so i just i just decided to put it on max and that way maybe we could blame max but no it's my fault this is a computer i use for for the dozen for a lot of stuff that we do and for whatever reason sorry if it I will take all of your complaints.
I'm sorry. Yes, all complaints filed to PFT.
But just to set the stage so people are aware, so this is the last show we'll do on Zoom. Monday, you'll get an extra, extra long show.
We'll be back in studio. We'll obviously talk college football playoff at week 17, everything.
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For information about student outcomes, visit Carrington. slash sci all right back to part of my take okay pft week 17 first of all fuck you to the nfl schedule makers uh 10 games in the early slate three games in the afternoon they basically were like we're gonna just try to scramble everyone's brain in the second to last big sunday of the year uh we do have a saturday night game but yeah i looked at it and i started to count the games at that like one o'clock minute kickoff and i was like what what is going on why do they have this many games yeah so it's a bad job i i would have much rather enjoyed like three games on saturday again you'll try to do this yes yes so we have a lot of shitty games but a couple really really good games obviously a ton of playoff implications so we're gonna we're gonna fire through them let's start saturday night detroit at dallas i think we're both very excited for this game i this game to me comes down to just like how big of a letdown spot for for detroit that's really it is.
Like, will there be a letdown spot? That was obviously an emotional win winning the NFC North. Do they have a little setback from that? And also Dallas kind of needs a win very badly right now.
They're not. They're reeling a little bit.
They've lost two in a row. Yeah.
And Dallas is what? Seven and oh at home. And they're coming down off whatever the opposite of a letdown spot is.
They kind of had a statement lost last week. We talked about it on Tuesday's part of my take where we said, in a weird way, the fraud bowl actually ended up making us like both teams a little bit more.
So Dallas had a very emotional loss, but almost in a way that should light a fire under their ass last week. So I feel like they're going to be coming out swinging.
It's also the Jimmy Johnson game, which has to count for something, right? We've waited 30 years for Jimmy Johnson to get into the ring of honor. They selected this weekend as the weekend Jerry Jones lets him in finally, which to me is more proof than anything that Jerry Jones is actually dead and that AI Jerry Jones is now running the show the show but regardless it'll be like an emotional saturday night primetime game for the cowboys i think i think i like the cowboys in this game let me ask you a question though how much emotion does the actual team care about jimmy johnson i'd say zero the the stadium will care the stadium will care the team itself was probably like okay cool we all we all weren't born when this happened any other team i would say that that's probably true for but with the cowboys you know that jerry jones is going to be talking to guys before the game he's the most hands-on owner it's a big weekend for jerry jones personally but will he be talking like jimmy johnson he'll be like jimmy johnson he was a real son of a bitch he and i really didn't like each other well i i could i could also see it going the other way where uh the team is like wow jury's gotten soft yeah letting jimmy into the ring of fame like i i'm not afraid of this guy anymore like i thought this was a dude that would hold a grudge against me for for forever like you you guys think i hate mike mcc I really hated Jimmy Johnson.
He was so much better than Mike McCarthy. Just to tell you how it used to be.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm still going with the take that it's a big game for the Cowboys.
Yes. It's a have-to-win game.
And I also, like, I know this over is very, very high, and I know totals have come down all year in the NFL, but I'm going to take this over because I don't know how either team stops the other like it does feel like both teams are just going to do whatever they want uh offensively I feel like the Cowboys are going to go back to running their zone defense that they normally run they didn't do it last week because you can't you can't really play man-to-man against Tyreek Hill that's just an impossible thing to do um but i feel like they'll go back to their old defense this week i could i could see the cowboys like holding holding the lines to 20 points 23 points well i really do think like there's i know there's you can't say let down spots exist the same way in the nfl as they do in college football it has to be like you just won the NFC North. You don't think the lions partied and like took a big sigh of relief after this.
And now the weird part is the lions. Like weirdly can still get the one seat, which I didn't even realize.
So they are still playing for a lot, but there just has to be a letdown. I can't, I'm convinced that they're, they're like, you, you do something that no team, no Lions team has done in the history of the franchise and also secure a home playoff game for the first time in 30 years.
Like, everyone's human. If I did something like that, I'd take the fucking next three months off.
Like, job well done. Yeah, that's going to be us after the Schwarzenegger interview comes out.
See ya. We just did something great.
Accomplished a 30-year goal of ours. Peace.
I'm out for a week. Yeah, I'll say it this way.
If the Lions manage to go to Dallas and beat the Cowboys, I'm going to upgrade them to the potential Super Bowl NFC team. Right now, I'm still like, I need the defense.
And Justin Houston coming back in the next couple weeks is going to be big for them, I think. And C.D.
Deuce isn't back yet. So they're going to get better on defense.
But right now, I still kind of have that thing that you saw like two months ago where you're like, I don't really trust the defense against a good offensive team. So if they're able to come out there and beat the Cowboys, I might put them into my trust column.
It's not even a good offensive team. I mean, look, Nick Mullins had 400 yards against him.
I know that there was four turnovers, but it was also like Hawkinson and Addison had to be out for the season for the Lions to start getting stops. It's just that's how all their games go.
They're just going to give up big leads. They're going to get big leads.
They're going to – like it's just going to be – it's be honest football to watch. watch but yeah i just we'll see if they can if they can slow down the cowboys at all i would agree with you i'll i'll have to upgrade them it's a trust game for me yeah it's a trust game for the lions and if the cowboys win i'm probably just gonna be like yeah the cowboys went home again big deal yeah uh okay next game sunday best game dolphins ravens literally for the one seed uh obviously the the either team could lose in week 18 and then that would you know be out the window like well actually no if the dolphins won this week and then lost in week 18 the ravens would then have the one seed because they have obviously one less loss than them right now um that hard knocks clip of Tyreek Hill and T when he was uh talking he pretended to talk to braxton berrios which we love braxton berrios he's a friend of the program been on the show thirst trap king that's kind of kind of suck we're like you're like you know it's like the biggest play of the game and he's like he's like all right reek no one look at reek let me just look at braxtonxton Berrios and just pretend that he's going to get the ball even though no one in the world thinks he is.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, it's a little bit emasculating, but if you're a Braxton Berrios, you know what your role is on that team. Yeah.
Your role is to – Turn punts and catch balls when the other guys are covered. Date Alex Earl.
That's pretty much it. Yeah, just pretty good life.

Be a Miami guy on our sideline.

You're good.

I have a theory, and you can tell me if this is fan fiction that I've been writing in my head for the last couple days.

But you know who the defense coordinator of the Ravens is?

Mike McDonald?

Yes.

Seen him on the sidelines a lot this year.

He seems like the next hot head coach in waiting.

He'll get more interviews this

offseason i'm sure because their defense i think leads the nfl and in scoring i believe um great coach used to coach at michigan do you think that there's any chance at all that connor stallions has been working for the ravens since he resigned from michigan i think it's not a 0% chance. I actually, this, this triggered a theory I have that we have to look into with the Cowboys, which I should have mentioned when we were talking about the Cowboys.
Cowboys are too good at home. Do you think there's any chance that Jerry's figured out a way to hack into their communication? Yeah, probably.
Yeah. But yes, I, I, why wouldn't Connor Stallions? I mean, he's, he's diehardhard harbaugh he'll do whatever he has to do for for the harbaugh men yeah i i honestly do think that he would die for anybody in the harbaugh family including tom creen but yeah i looked it up since since he resigned the ravens are six and one their only loss was at cleveland where everybody would recognize connor stallions if you went to Ohio.
Public enemy number one. Their defense has been playing lights out.
I'm just going to float it out there with absolutely no backing behind it, besides the fact that McDonald used to coach at Michigan, and Connor Stallions is a hardball guy for life. I like the theory.
I like the theory. Did you see the other theory floating around the internet today?

So the 49ers have lost four games this year. The first three times they lost, they scored exactly 17 points.
And then the quarterback got hurt shortly thereafter against the team they're playing. So the Browns, Deshaun Watson got hurt.
The Vikings, Kirk Cousins got hurt. and then the Bengals, Joe Burrow got hurt.

And so they're thinking that maybe it's like a... Tom Watson got hurt.
The Vikings, Kirk cousins got hurt. And then the Bengals,

Joe Burrow got hurt.

And so they're thinking that maybe it's like a, the,

the ref was actually doing the Ravens a favor by tripping up Lamar Jackson,

making the final score for the 49ers,

19,

not 17.

I like that.

So Lamar Jackson's been saved.

That's probably,

it's probably more likely than Connor Stallion is working behind the scenes for the Ravens. But I like both.
Why can't they both be true? Yeah, they're both true. As for this game, I.
I want to take the Ravens really badly, but I also like I feel like this is a fuck around game for the Ravens. I know that makes no sense because they're playing for the one seed, but that win was so big in San Franciscoisco and the way they were talking about it after and the ravens i think we all agree the ravens are the best team in the nfl but they also are the number one team of like look at their losses they just fuck around they lost to the colts in overtime they lost to the uh browns when they're up 14 they lost to the steelers the steelers team that can't do anything this year by dropping a million balls they're like like the quintessential if they lose, you can just be like, well, yeah, they were fucking around.
They should have been fucking around. I don't know if they're going to fuck around against the Dolphins, though.
I don't think so, but I'm also nervous because this would be the fuck around spot off a big win, but both teams are off a big win. I kind of want to fade both teams.
I don't know how you can do that tie tie tie we should seriously like the spot says both teams yeah i don't you want to call yeah you want to call mike no we can't we can't we'll do it we'll wait because he's too keen on it now but we you know we publicly embarrassed him he do. Um, we love, yeah, I want to know if, if this is going to, cause he has the opportunity to turn this into like a brand for himself to be like the biggest Ravens hater on planet earth, which I don't think he really wants to do, but if he had a more shrewd eye towards like carving out that niche for yourself, like you've got certain people in media that absolutely hate other teams skip bayless hates lebron you can find your niche and then you'll be that person like the go-to person for that we don't really have a ravens hater he's not mike is too honest because it is true like there's a lot of media people though they just pick a lane and then they just like because they they do the calculation where they're like all right i'm gonna pick this lane and if i end up being wrong it's even better for me because then everyone's gonna tune in to see me publicly embarrassed i think mike is too honest for that i don't think like he actually calls it like he sees it he won't do the easy way out because it is easy way out where you just be like i think this and i'll just keep saying this forever and forever and then if i'm wrong at the end of the's going to tune into my show at 9 a.m.
and be like, ah, you're wrong. Yeah, that's media.
He could. Yeah, it's actually like it's an undefeated way to make yourself a very good living in this business.
He should be a bigger Flowers fan. If his name's florist, that just occurred to me a second ago.
That's a fact. I'm excited for this game, though'm very excited for this game also i'm too dolphins obviously beat a really good team in the cowboys but they still haven't done it on the road so maybe we could just shift the narrative to that and no jalen waddle and two has got a thumb two has got a thumb he's got two thumbs but he's got a one thumb that hurts one injured i i think it was probably good for the raven the Dolphins to win a low scoring game like that.
Yeah. Where they get to, they, they don't get insane.
Their defense. There was a lot of stuff going on.
They were, they were asked in the, in the media this week. I know Mike McDaniels had to deal with a lot of like, are you guys too cute? I think they just straight up asked him, are you too cute? And he was saying that like, you know, there's people that talk out there and it doesn't really affect what they're doing i actually think that if enough people call a football team too cute they do start to listen to that yeah i agree with that i absolutely agree with that how can you not you hear that and then the ravens the ravens are playing like the ravens are just talking about how they're the biggest underdogs in the world which i don't know how you can still be when you have the best record in the NFL, but it works for them.
So don't fix what's not broken there. Yeah, just give yourself whatever fuel that you need.
But I think I like the Dolphins in this one. We do have our one nerd nugget of the week.
We told Jake to send us his nerd nugget of the week. is the ravens have recorded at least one sack in 30 second 36 consecutive games marking the nfl's longest active streak the longest such streak in franchise history very cool i don't count that as you didn't do the the sound okay nerd nugget of the week very cool very cool all right saints and bucks um p I'm going to do something really dumb.
I'm probably going to bet the Saints. Yeah, that's pretty dumb.
Pretty dumb. It is, but it's also like this is the Bucs are good-ish.
Baker's played very well. He should win comeback player of the year, Joe Flacco.
No disrespect to Damar Hamlin, but why is he winning? He should not win comeback player of the year. They should do a different award for Damar.
They should name an award after Damar. Yeah.
If you almost die, you get the Damar Hamlin award. Yeah, you get the Damar Hamlin excellence and courage award.
I actually think that Damar Hamlin Excellence in Courage Award.

I actually think that DeMar Hamlin, probably,

if you hit him with true serum right now,

he'd probably be like, I kind of don't want to win this because everyone's going to just shit on me

and be like, you had two tackles in two games.

Like, there is an element.

Like, I honestly think DeMar Hamlin's like,

can I just be a regular human being again?

Like, I know it was a crazy story,

but I want to just go back and maybe, you know,

get my career back on track. He should have won the award last year when he survived when he came back from literally death that's when he wouldn't come back player of the year but yeah this year they're good they're probably going to give it to him because football writers they see a story like that and they're like oh wow it's just such a a great great story that we have to promote.
But, yeah, if we're being honest, he hasn't played much.

We've got some really good deserving names like, yeah, Flacco, but Baker.

I would say Baker.

Like, if Flacco did it all year long, then that's one thing.

But Baker's been – he's been pretty solid all year.

They're probably maybe going to win the division.

I don't want to jinx it, but they have every opportunity,

even if they lose this game against the Saints. I think if they win next week, they win the division, right? Who? The Bucs.
Oh, the Bucs, yes. The Bucs, yes.
Yeah, so, I mean, Baker, he's put together a season. I'm not just saying this because I bet on him to win the award, but I also am kind of saying it because of that.
But I do think that he should win. DeMar, it's a good story.
I don't want to take anything away from DeMar. It's hard to say that he shouldn't win, but I'm here.
I'll be the brave one and say this guy shouldn't win the award. Name it after him.
Name the award after him next year. He shouldn't win the award.
It's just a fact. He shouldn't win the award.
As for this game, I'm going gonna take the saints probably because i just feel like the saints couldn't be worse and the bucks are riding as high as possible it's like a it's the combination it's a buy low sell high situation for like i the bucks are playing out of this world good the last few weeks and i think it's slightly a mirage like i think they're a good team i don't think they're as good as they've been playing and the the saints are bad but maybe they're not as bad this see even me saying this sounds dumb i also have a nerd nugget for this game it's um the fact that the saints this is their first outdoor game since october 8th yeah okay that's a big red flag to me yeah but that's crazy like if you watch the saints last week i understand what you're saying i i get it where with the bucks they beat what we thought was a good team the jaguars they crushed them baker's been playing out of his mind uh now's the time where they should come back to earth but also the saints have just looked real bad for the last month. There's no football analysis behind the fact that I'm just saying that everyone in the world is going to look at bucks minus two and a half on Sunday and be like, that's the easiest bet in the world.
And that's always the bet that loses. Do you see the, the report that Russell Wilson, a possible possible destination for him next year might be with the saints.
Oh my i can't that i can't think of a worse culture torture yeah i can't think of a worse culture fit for the city of new orleans than russell wilson with the exception of maybe maybe derrick carr well the only thing you could say is maybe russ would like maybe he'd like enjoy eating with zion and they'd both get really fat that'd be fun. Russ could get fat.
Russ has the frame to get fat. Yeah, it would be.
It would be very funny seeing tubby little Russ Wilson waddling around next year. That would be that would actually be like I would have to like stop the simulation and say this is actually mean to Saints fans at this point.
You can't do this. And it's been torture for them this year.
Do you see that that podcast caller last week that called in complaining about Derek Carr I thought that guy was from like Staten Island no so that's threw in a couple y'alls that's the New Orleans accent I can't remember I I I I had a clip this comedian very funny comedian went on a late night show and he explained it that all New Orleans accents accents like true new orleans accents are essentially like a brooklyn firefighter with a couple valiums yeah yeah and when he broke it down i was like wow that's exactly what it is i hit up our friend derrick that we got to meet from from lsu way back in the day and uh i was like this guy i thought he's from new york until he threw in the y'all and he was like yeah they're both they're the accents are exactly the same they're both port cities yeah so i guess that's just a port accent yeah and shout out snow lake john that was uh his call-in show after very very funny he's he's a good content creator down in new orleans um he does he does red beans and rice reviews every day it's fucking awesome every single time i see it i'm just like i want that i want listen i i agree with what you're saying that now now would be the time to fade the bucks but i haven't seen anything out of the saints that i've liked and it feels like years it's dumb it's dumb i'm i'm fully saying how stupid what i'm saying is but it's just that feeling like i've been doing this long enough that when you can see those easy like spots you're like oh man the bucks this is going to be the easiest game ever. This is also a potential Mike Evans gets ejected game.
He loves the saints. True.
He does. He likes fighting the saints.
You're right. It seems like it happens more often in the dome though.
Yeah. He does get pissed in the dome.
Okay. Next game.
Raiders at Colts. Um, I don't know.
I like, I want to bet the Raiders, but then Aiden O'Connell still, what has been like. Actually, I hope for this game, Aiden O'Connell goes a couple quarters without completing a pass.
That would be awesome. That would be awesome.
Yeah. If you win a full four quarters without completing a pass.
And I hope that they win the game too. They're winning at the time.
Yeah. I don't, I don't love the rate, the Raiders, but I do think that Antonio Pierce has, has coached his way into being the full-time head coach.
If they really want to win this game, Mark Davis should announce before the game starts, like you're giving away a scholarship. Like this, this walk on now has earned his position.
If you're looking for a boost, Mark Davis going to the locker room before kickoff and tell the team Antonio Pierce is coming back next year as the head coach. I guarantee you win that game.
Yeah, because there does feel like the Raiders win against the Chiefs. Like, you know, the joke that Hank and Patriots fans used to always make like, oh, congrats on your week six Super Bowl.
That did feel like a Super Bowl for the Raiders. And they were smoking cigars inars in the locker room after.
I kind of have a running theory that if you smoke cigars in a locker room for a regular season game the next week, you can't be trusted. They did that in Pierce's first game, too.
Remember that? And what happened in the second game? I don't know. I don't know.
Can we look that up? I'm going to look it up right now. Okay, yeah, because I remember Max Crosby lit up a cigar after that game game too.
Max Crosby also might just light cigars after every game. That might be different.
I believe his first game was the Giants game. They won the second game.
They beat the Jets 16-12. What a barn burner.
You remember that game. The Raiders did feel like it also might have just been them celebrating

not having to go back to a locker room with josh mcdaniels in it that's why they were excited yeah but they did they did act like that was a super bowl i do have uh one stat that goes uh for like us just talking about storylines and being dumb um from sports info solution thatiders defense, they played six highest in zone

and Gardner Minshew's bad

against the zone. So take

that however you want. But I thought I'd

throw in a stat that people can actually

be like, hey, they're not just talking about cigars

and

teams being cursed after

the 49ers scoring

17 points. Yeah.

That's definitely one that you can drop in

the bar and everybody be like wow that guy knows ball yeah holy shit okay uh all right patriots at

bills i okay this game i want to take the bills so bad but doesn't it feel and maybe this is way

off like the bills this is a game that like all the pressure's on that there's no pressure on the

Thank you. but doesn't it feel, and maybe this is way off, like the Bills, this is a game that all the pressure's on them.

There's no pressure on the Patriots.

They cannot lose this game.

They've climbed all the way out of this hole,

and they're one game away from basically playing for,

if the Ravens lose or if the Ravens beat the Dolphins,

they're one game away from playing for the AFC East,

which we would have thought was impossible a month and a half ago.

So it's like, I think the Bills will win the game,

Thank you. Ravens beat the Dolphins.
They're one game away from playing for the AFC East, which we would have thought was impossible a month and a half ago. So it's like, I don't, I think the bills will win the game, but I also feel like so much pressures on them to win this game that a 13 point spread is a lot.
13 is a lot. Yeah, for sure.
And all us Patriots fans know going back to week one, we said, we're just going to play spoiler this year. So now's the time, right? We've got two games in a row, play spoiler.
You can spoil the bill season right now. And then next week you can just spoil the jets existence and spoil their fans lives.
But this is a big time spoiler game. So I think I'm going to stand by that take.
I, I would not be shocked if the Patriots did something weird because their defense is really good. Their defense is not the problem at all.
Their defense is good enough to win football games. If Bailey Zappi gets hot, then anything can happen in this game.
That's a crazy thing to say. But yes, if Bailey Zappi gets hot for halves.
He gets hot for halves. He does.
He got hot the first half against the Steelers. He got hot for first half against the Broncos.
He gets hot for halves. Yeah, so if he can just not be as cold in the second half as he is in the first half, then the defense...
13 points is too much for this game. It also feels like he was hot, so hot last game and that was such a big win that there's no way he's going to do it again.
Right? You never know. Maybe for half.
I did read a take on, I think it was on Fox Sports. I forget who wrote it, but they're speculating that if the Bills somehow collapse, if the Patriots win this game and the Bills ended up not making the playoffs, Belichick could take over for McDermott after the season's over.
In Buffalo? In Buffalo. That would be wild.
What job has he not been rumored for now? He's just linked to everyone. It's just a hack where you can be like possible landing spots for Belichick and then just include every team.
I don't know if he would do that. That would be weird, wouldn't it? That would be very weird.
It depends how much he hates the Patriots. How bad is the exit going to be for him where he will be petty enough to go inside the division? I don't see it happening.
But I saw this one person throw that take out there. And I was like, that's worth exploring just a little bit.
Also, Bill Belichick, like, dude, you've lived in cold weather for a very long time. You look miserable every time they show you on the sidelines.
You're old. You know, your bones probably hurt when it gets below 30 degrees go somewhere warm why not yeah go somewhere go somewhere where if you're walking out of house early in the morning with your shirt off you're not going to have your nipples freezing yeah go to new orleans why not that'd be fun go to new orleans go to la live the life you you deserve it do like a half retired half coaching job that's the dream it really is but i back to this game i i think that the bills are going to win but i don't i mean they they couldn't take care of business against the chargers that game was way closer than we thought it was going to be that's what i'm saying i still don't trust the bills i still they might win the division which you know going into the season we thought this might be the best division in football and they might win it, but they still might not be a very good team.
There's, there's, I don't think there's a team you can trust right now in the NFL. Uh, I trust the commanders to suck.
I was going to say, like you go down the list. We talked about it.
The Ravens are fuck around team like i i think the ravens are the best team but you if ravens fans are nodding right now being like yep we do fuck around sometimes the 49ers do you trust them if they go down a couple scores because i don't like the the cowboys defense the lions defense the chiefs are broken the dolphins can't haven't beaten a good team on the road like that's why this this season is so much fun I don't think there's one team that you can you could say like put my life on the line they win this game and the Ravens are probably the closest closest yeah but then you they have the fuck around thing where it's like they do a full Ravens situation where it's like wait they're the better team but team, but how is this game a tied game in the fourth quarter? Yeah, but the Bills, they have more of a glare. They have more glaring trust issues because they haven't been good all season.
They've had good stretches. I mean, this stretch they're on right now is very good.
You have to say that. They they won at Arrowhead and then they killed the Cowboys.

I would also say, though, last week, that's not a team that I trust the way that they toyed around with the Chargers.

Yeah, well, Easton stick too much time for Easton stick.

OK, next game, we could just Falcons and Bears.

Do we even we don't have to talk about it?

Yeah.

What do you want to happen?

I don't care.

You care a little bit. Yeah, I care.

I win.

Justin Fields looks awesome.

Thank you. What do you want to happen? I don't care.
You care a little bit. Yeah, I care.
I win. Justin Fields looks awesome.
I don't know. Lose.
Get a better draft pick. I feel like he's.
Ask me. Ask me with two minutes left in the game and I'll let you know.
You've had so many instances where you get a good game from Justin Fields, but they lose. And then.
I know. And then you're like, well, he looked good.
But also. it would have been sweet if he understands what winning is like i i guess actually now that i'm really thinking about it i would like them to win because i think there is like a culture change and they're starting to win and and you know be a tough team to play so you got to kind of carry that over in the next year as long as the panthers lose out, the Bears can win out, and I'd be happy.
Especially because, yeah, if they finish 8-9, and you're like, look at how they played the last two months, that's something you can build off of. That's not nothing.
Right. So, yeah, win.
Okay. Yeah, roll some confidence over it.
You want to win. I do think they're going to win.
I do think they're going to win. You just got to put all your eggs in the Panthers losing basket.
Correct. That's the thing.
If that Panthers pick wasn't there, I would say I would want the Bears to lose. Right.
Because we have that Panthers pick, it changes the whole calculation. So, yes, win.
Win, and I think they are going to win because I don't think the Falcons are going to be able to run on the Bears, and the Falcons need to run to be good. And also, doesn't it feel like they had a good game last week? What does that mean? That means they probably will do something stupid this week.
That's our Bears-Falcons preview. There's a couple games we could do that for.
Rams-Giants, Ty God is back. The Rams are dangerous the rams are playing great ball uh i think the rams are i i kind of like this over in this game i think the rams are gonna win this game but i am a little nervous about tyrod taylor because he is so much better than it's crazy that he's like second or third string everywhere he goes because he every time he comes in he looks good yeah it looks really good he just gets weird injuries that happen to him all the time and so that's that's the concern with him i think the rams are uh they're peaking at like the exact correct time they had the the mid-season downhill swoon that they went on they were three and six now they're they're playing so well like they're running game they're passing game matt stafford is playing as good as he's ever played.
Their defense is playing pretty good. Aaron Donald is back to being like Aaron Donald.
Although Rams PR might have jinxed it. I don't know if you saw this, but Rams PR put out a stat and they said quarterback Matthew Stafford became the fourth quarterback in NFL history to throw 10 plus touchdowns and no interceptions in the month of December in a single season joining Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady.

It's only happened three times before.

They put the stat out.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Big Cat.

I haven't looked at a calendar in a while.

We're both on vacation.

This game is being played in the month of December, is it not?

It is.

It seems like they should have waited.

They should have waited until after this week was over to put that stat out. I'd agree.
I'd agree. That was a premature stat by premature stack stat statulation by Schefter.
Yeah. Premature stack.
Sometimes the premature stats are more potent. He can't.
He can't keep it. He can't keep it.
He's just the Stafford was just too hot. So he had to release a stat.

It was so hot.

It's not you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's just, yes.

Schefter just whispered.

He's like, listen, it doesn't usually happen.

You're just so hot, Stafford.

You just been so good that it just, you know, it's not that like, I swear next time.

Well, you want to go again?

You want to do it again?

You want to do another stat?

I swear I can.

I can last longer on this stat.

I'll be good.

Just give me like 30 minutes and then he falls asleep.

Thank you. it like i swear next time well you want to go again you want to do it again you want to do another stat i swear i can i can last longer on this stat i'll be good just give me like 30 minutes and then he falls asleep yeah although i just minor correction it wasn't adam schefter big cat it was rams pvr that did that so it was their own team yeah oh i wish it was schefter that was funnier we can just say it was schefter yeah it was schefter It was Schefter.
I don't know why I thought it was Schefter.

I had Schefter.

Oh, because Schefter I have alerts on,

and he said an alert popped up on my computer and my phone

that the Browns were the first team to make.

Let's see.

Browns are now the first team in NFL history to make the playoffs

after starting four different quarterbacks in the same season.

It's pretty cool.

Very cool.

That's why I had Schefter on my brain.

The alert Schefter alerts are a blessing and a curse because you have to have them on for you know sunday mornings but sometimes they're just it's too much my favorite shefter alerts are when i wake up on sunday morning and i see that at like 11 59 or 1201 it's always like one minute away from midnight shefter did his dump of who's playing and who's not he has like a a handshake agreement with every team. Like, I'm not going to put this out until midnight the night before, but just give me all your info.
It's perfect. I'm not going to put this out until I put my parlay in and then I'll drop it.
The, I think the Rams are going to win this game because the giants love to blitz and Stafford kills the blitz, not fully this year, but it's also because Kyron Williams is like, he's a lead dog in terms of blocking. We talked about it in the offseason when the whole running backs, they had their Zoom call and everything.
Kyron Williams is one of those guys that he should just do a whole blocking highlight and that should get him $15 million a year alone because he saves, he saves Matthew Stafford's life multiple times a game. He takes a lot of pride in his blocking.
That's what they always say about running backs. Yeah.
He was like that in Notre Dame too. He's just a dog back there.
Okay. Cardinals and Eagles.
I don't know. Eagles have to win by a lot for me to feel good about the Eagles.
Yeah. They're going to win this game, but they have to win by a lot.
Don't you agree? Like if they go, if this is another game where the Eagles win by five somehow, I'm going to be like, well, they're not fixed. It's a revenge game for the Eagles against Gannon.
So yeah, if you remember the way that it all shook out before the Superbowl, he said,annon said Philly's keeping me good, bad or indifferent. I'm staying here.
That was his quote, I believe, after the NFC championship game, the week of the Super Bowl, the Cardinals hit him up and they're like, hey, we want to interview you after the Super Bowl. If we happen to have a coaching vacancy.
And he was like, yeah, sure. That sounds good.
And then they interviewed him, I believe i believe the day after the super bowl so it's they want us to believe that they called him the monday morning after the super bowl and they're like hey since you're in arizona you want to just swing by the facility we'll talk about it um no this was something that was put into place uh probably a week or two before the game and so i think that philly's got like let's get some revenge against

snake gannon yeah yeah they have to max um two things uh we're in arizona right now

i went i took my son to mini golf at talking stick where if you remember we went and interviewed

laine johnson vibes couldn't have been higher at that very moment do you remember that moment max

yeah it was a great time great time in life yeah great time number two is what do the eagles Thank you. Johnson vibes couldn't have been higher at that very moment do you remember that moment Max yeah

it was a great time great time in life yeah great time number two is what do the Eagles have to win by for you to feel confident and is it also just a terrible feeling knowing that the Eagles are going to lose in the playoffs and you know it's coming and there's nothing you can do about it I'm going to answer that first question I'll say three scores okay three scores three touchdowns No, three scores.

Three scores?

So nine points?

No.

Six points.

Three safeties i don't like i don't like the way that you guys are doing this i think you said three scores we want to we want to dive into the numbers the answer is three 17 17 or correct 17 17 would be would be nice or it like never get if it just never got to a one-score game after the first quarter, I would be fine with that. Okay.
And then what about the other part? Like a comfortable win, because sometimes the Eagles can dominate a game and only win by 14 by just absolutely controlling the clock in the second half. And I would like to see that.

Yeah, the Eagles, like the Cardinals can't really stop the run.

It would be fun if the Eagles just played a game where they didn't do a forward pass.

Yeah, like I would be fine with that.

Yeah, Michigan versus Penn State.

And they're like, yeah, we're just going to win it this way.

What about the other part of my question?

I kind of snuck that part.

I know I answered.

We only do one question at a time here.

One question with a Max.

PFT, do you have a question for Max?

Oh, he's frozen.

Fuck.

We're back.

We're back.

We're back.

We're back.

Do you have a question for Max PFT?

Yeah, I do.

Max, is this a must-win game for you guys?

No, you're supposed to ask me. No, no, no.

Must-win.

Yeah, great question.

Great question. Yes, must-win.
Damn it, PFT pft i'm frozen again so i didn't hear max's answer yeah no he wouldn't answer the part where i said does it suck that you know that the eagles are going to lose in the playoffs there's nothing you can do about it it's going to be torturous because you know it's going to happen and it can't stop it but we can't ask another question so he's just going to elude this question uh max i curious to know as an Eagles fan the way that the last couple weeks have gone for you are you no yeah I agree this must win he's a frozen again he's so frozen this is painful he's frozen again he's frozen again it's almost like Memes, do you have a question for Max? I'm thinking about one. If you can text me the correct verbiage.
Wait, I think I found a problem. Okay, memes.
Memes, do you have one question for Max max we're doing one question for max real quick

do you have a question for max uh memes here part of my take podcast max are you worried that you're going to lose in the playoffs and there's nothing you can do about it and you're going to cry and be sad and you know it's coming and you suck good question good question memes good question Thanks for reaching out

Yeah, no

Most teams lose in this league

So Good question, Memes. Good question, Memes.
Good question. Thanks for reaching out.
Yeah, no. Most teams lose in this league, so the chances are that, yes, the Eagles will lose in the playoffs.
So I am preparing for that, but I'm not canceling out all possibilities here. So the Eagles still could win the Super Bowl.
Okay. Okay.
okay okay all right good answer the bears could still win the super bowl wrong that's incorrect they're not eliminated right now max okay i thought they were that's on me i gotta know my facts i gotta know my facts the bears and eagles might have the same chance of winning the Super Bowl. Zero.
Not zero. Max, what are your thoughts on Gannon? Do you hate Gannon? I don't really give a fuck about Gannon.
I like Matt Patricia. I'll say that.
Yeah. Pat Patricia's your guy.
Defenses looked better the past two weeks. Hey, let's go to the next game 49ers commanders pft jacoby reset is your starter now good job you got you found the right guy week 17 took you a while we found the right guy listen this is uh it's a move that at first i was just like why are why are we doing this why don't we just let sam howell play the season out you remember last year that's when we benched Heineke was against the Niners we said okay we're going back to Carson Wentz it felt weird then it feels weird now but also the Niners are just going to destroy us the Niners are going to take a big shit all over us Shanahan hates the organization we've got Chase Young and he's going to be looking to prove something against us.

It's not good.

But then I thought to myself, if you're going to bench Sam Howell,

why not bench him for this game?

Just like, okay, he might not be the guy in the eyes of the coaching staff.

I don't think putting him in this game is going to prove anything because we're going to lose no matter what.

And also, I think that there might be something wrong with him physically. This would not be a good game to put him out there let him get killed again uh so i don't i don't necessarily hate the move it's just like a sad move for me because i saw the picture that the commanders tweeted out of jacoby brissett looking dummy thick by the way i don't know if you saw that picture big cat yep he was like he was doing the the influencer pose with his ass sticking out in the pocket and he's he is the kobe he's jacoby brisket and uh it was very funny and i saw that i thought to myself you know what fuck it i guess we're doing jacoby brissette we want to lose this game uh when the game is going on i will be rooting for the commanders but ideally i would like to lose this game and then lose the last game

of the season and maybe end up with the third overall pick if my new england patriots can do their part and play spoilers so um it's going to be a sad game to watch i don't think that it's going to be particularly competitive i'm not going to bet against the commanders but um if you were smart you would bet against the commanders this weekend yeah yeah this is going to be a tough game to watch. I would agree.
All right. Let's do this.
This has never been done in our preview, but I think because this is abbreviated preview, I'm going to do it here. We're going to do a combo game.
So whatever you want to say, Panthers, Jaguars, Titans, and Texans. All right.
It's a four way game. I guess Titans, Titans and Texans is a more interesting game because the Texans aren't dead.
CJ Stroud's coming back. The Jaguars aren't dead either.
Yeah, that's a good point. I feel like the Texans are more alive to me than the Jaguars are, even though I think all the Jags have to do is they have to win against the Pan panthers right yeah i think they just have to win

one more game maybe i don't know i don't even know but i have no interest in watching either one of these games correct correct these are games i guess there is something kind of interesting in the titans texans game is will levis and cj stroud yeah yeah and cj stroud being back after a Concussion. Hopefully he looks good.

I do want the Panthers to lose obviously i'm very nervous about it because i actually think that the jaguars could absolutely lose this game um but yeah these are the games that you have to just memory hole and be like we would kill for this game in july but when it comes to like it's it's crazy because both like you said, the Texans and the Jaguars both are alive,

but I don't really want to watch either of them play football right now.

And maybe that will change once we see C.J. Stroud back out there.

But right now it's like, this is a bummer.

These are bummer games.

You know what it was?

The last couple of weeks, we got a flashback to the old Texans.

And we had just now started to memory wipe ourselves of what the texans have looked like for the past like seven years um and we had a flashback with case keenum and davis mills playing quarterback and now it's like okay it's those texans again we forget that when cj stroud's playing they're actually very very fun to watch for the most part yes um so i i'm just hoping for a fun game i hope both quarterbacks look good maybe we should reframe the narrative and say we get to watch will levis against cj stroud for the next 13 years actually let's just hope that all four of these quarterbacks look good okay right let's root for health for all four of these quarterbacks specifically trevor lawrence who's gotten every injury in the world. Yeah.
I want to give a quick shout out to one of my favorite Twitter accounts, art, but make it sports. Yes.
This guy has like encyclopedic memory of all sorts of art, like going back to like Renaissance paintings, modern art, and he sees things that happen on TV and sports games. And then he immediately finds a painting that looks exactly like that still frame the trevor lawrence face where his face started to melt because he got hit so hard he found uh the self or the portrait of pablo picasso which was like a pixelated curvy face that was the exact perfect fit for it i i wish i was as good at anything as this guy is at just going back through his memory and being like that reminds me of this thing i just saw on tv perfect he's actually a well-adjusted well-rounded person where it's he's a sports fan but he also has some culture yeah the opposite of us exactly opposite of us which is why we like him so much yeah we try to do sports.
We'd be like, wait, that one time in The Simpsons? No, I can't remember. It's like either The Simpsons or it's like a screenshot from The Sopranos.
Yeah. Or another sports event.
Yeah. Yeah.
Art, but make it sports and memes his brain, except it's just SpongeBob memes. Yeah.
This time Trevor Lawrence's face got smushed. Remind me of the time Blake Bortles' face got smushed.
Yeah. That's really it.
Like, yeah, remember when Blake Bortles had his tongue wagging out and he was getting hit? That's what I thought of. Yeah.
Yeah, but if you want to be like 10% smarter or just feel 10% smarter, follow that guy. All right, so gun to your head, these two games, I would go Texans minus the points and Panthers plus the points.
I would go Texans minus the points and Jaguars. I feel like back to your theory on how you're fading the Bucs this week, I think you can do the opposite with the Jaguars, that they looked so bad last week that now's the time to take them.
It's not a bad thought. They could not possibly look worse.
Okay, afternoon games. That was all just the 1 o'clock.
It's crazy. I don't know why they did 10 games.
Steelers at Seahawks. I think the Steelers might win this game.
I like the Steelers here, too. This might be back-to-back culture games for Tomlin.
Yeah, this would get them to nine wins. Yeah.
This is the ninth win game. I mean, can you imagine if the Steelers win 10 games this year? It'd be crazy.
It'd be crazy, especially because if they win 10 games, they would be in the playoffs, and I wouldn't really hate them being in the playoffs because it would have meant that they looked good for the last three weeks of the season. And Mason Rudolph would be fun.
It does make me a little nervous because it feels like the story of the season is backup quarterback comes in, does awesome things. And then we were reminded why they're the backup quarterback.
It's the Dobbs year. If you can, if you want to tell the story of the 2023 NFL season it's Josh Dobbs and all his like offspring he ever every every branch of the Dobbs tree is just quarterbacks Jake Browning popping up looking good Zach Wilson getting hurt coming back looking good getting hurt again coming back looking good Billy Zappy looking good for a game.
Mason Rudolph looking good for a game.

All these guys.

Nick Mullins.

All of them.

True luck.

True luck.

You can go down.

Jacoby Brissett.

There's just a list of these guys who've come in for a game.

Heineke, when he came in for the first game, now he's back.

That's the entirety of this NFL season is guys coming in for one start.

East and stick.

It just keeps going on and on and on so it is the Josh Dobbs year yeah no that's that's a good point we've had a lot of quarterbacks that show up and it's a feel-good story and we're like oh this is so awesome to see that there there should be a team that gets the playoffs and then they have an unexpected backup come in like right at the start of the playoffs then we get a nice little like two maybe three game stretch we're like oh wow this version of josh dobbs is awesome before they fall off and lose in a heartbreaking fashion but um dude remember i remember tyson pageant that was awesome yeah for a week yeah with so with uh with mason rudolph I feel like what he's done is very similar to what Drew Locke did. Everybody was very down on Drew Locke.
A lot of people were disrespecting him. A lot of people, like us included, were saying bad things, thinking bad things about Mason Rudolph.
Just our own fault for the last three years. and then he came in played well and we're like wow I guess we've really turned the page on him I think we have another like week or two of feeling good about Mason Rudolph before like oh yeah fuck that guy yeah I agree with you so this is maybe this is the last week so we should probably be like yeah we should probably bet the Steelers yeah i think so and then in the broncos game i think this is our oh jared stidham yeah he's jared he's the new josh dobs i mean we should talk quickly about russ the sad uh ending of russell wilson's maybe his career someone will pick him up but i don't know if he's gonna like if i said to you right now russell wilson over under 15 starts in the nfl for the rest of his career would you take the over the under it depends how bad the team is that picks him up i'd take the under i think i think i think he'll get another shot i think i think he'll get another shot after this shot.
So I'll take the over. This shot, well, I don't know if this shot will be a starting job.
I think he will. I think he's going to start week one next year, and then I don't know if he's going to last the entire season, and then there will be one more team that's like, let's roll the dice.
Okay. But, yeah, it um so obviously they they they benched him mostly because the contract is very similar to the Derek Carr thing last year where it's like we can't get this guy injured because then we have to pay him like 40 million dollars we we can't risk that especially because we're going to cut him that I never seen he uh had that report that he's gone from Denver which I think we all knew um this also was like a very good test on the stats that you see compiled on twitter and first the eye test because you know there was that there's the meme going around that russell wilson and patrick mahomes are the same quarterback this year and it's like if you watch the broncos like they yes it was great that they turned it around but it was a lot of smoke and mirrors there's a lot of a lot of turnover luck.
And Russell Wilson still had the same issues that he's had the last two years where it's like he can throw a deep ball that has like a 20% chance of getting completed. He can't move an offense down the field and he can't use his legs the same way.
And then Sean Payton came and did an all-time press conference where he's like someone asked him if Russell Wilson, it felt like Russell Wilson was getting all the blame. He's like, well, I can't cut five offensive linemen.
I can't change all my wide receivers. It just went through everyone on the bus all at once.
Great, great job by Sean Peyton. He was like, well, yeah, that's what a scapegoat is.
That's why the quarterback position is the best, because you can just be like, yeah, it is that guy's fault. And Russ, to his credit, he was better than Russ last year.
So everybody was like, oh, maybe he's back. We spend a lot of time this year being like, oh, maybe old Russell Wilson is working his way back there.
But yeah, the math, math did not work in his favor. That's why if you give big money to a quarterback, then they're always going to have in the back of their mind like, oh, well, this is our biggest expense.
What can we do to try to move on from this guy a little bit too soon rather than a little bit too late? And I don't know how that works when they ask because it's an injury guarantee. So they want to make sure that he's healthy.
Did they give him a physical? And then he passed the physical? And they're like, okay, you're benched. A trick physical.
A trick physical. That's what I want.
Because if you're an NFL quarterback, a good agent should tell his client, if you ever get a physical done, always say that something's really hurting. And then tell a coach, I'm going through it um but yeah this is really killing me but yeah i think i think it might have been a fake physical they did they did the thing like i do with my kids like the their dentist's office is right next to a toy store so i'm always like yeah we're going to the toy store today and i'm like oh yeah we gotta stop at the dentist's office first you think they did that to to Russ? They might have.
We're going to the subway right now.

We're going to get a sandwich.

You're like, oh, shit.

Before we get the footlong, we're just going to need you to sit up on this table and cough for us.

Yeah.

Sean Payton might have been like, hey, Russ, we're giving out big boy bonuses today. If everyone's feeling good like a big boy, no pain at all.

If you're a tough guy, then I'm giving you $100,000 cash under the table. You want to your physical he's like yeah coach i'm feeling great all right you're benched his physical is literally just the the the pain chart the zero to like 10 it's in every hospital room russ can you point up here where you like zero to 10 russ is like oh i'm like a one like oh great you're benched yeah Peyton was probably like, hey, I'm just doing a check on you because I don't want you to get banged up.
If you're hurt, I'm going to sit you because we value your long term health here. So I just want to make sure going into this next week that you're feeling good, like you're ready to start, because if you're not, just tell me and we're going to take care of you.
He's like, no, no, I want to start. I right tough news you're bitched yeah cool you answered that incorrectly i also did love sean payton doing the classic coach speech where he's like listen if i'm bad at my job i'm out of here too you know he's like yeah yeah okay russ is a scapegoat but like someday i'll get fired it's like okay dude we

know that like you you basically have control of this whole organization for the foreseeable future and you're getting paid a ton of money so of course yeah you can say that but you're not getting fired i'm sure he's been fired before but just thinking back on his recent career when was the last time sean payton was fired yeah oh let's look it up by the way because in in sad stats um since this is the end of the russell wilson era in denver he officially is finishing uh his career with less wins than toilets in his back in his house so he has 12 toilets in his house he won 11 games for the broncos in two years that is very sad but yeah Sean Payton he left the Saints on his own terms

I'm pretty sure he left what the cowboys on his own terms i guess he got you know he technically got fired as like a player um he got fired well he got he got oh he's been in for a year he got fired by andy reed and the Eagles. Well, that was the He got fired by Andy Reid and the Eagles.

Well, that was the switchover.

So he was on the Eagles, and then Andy Reid came in,

and they didn't retain his duties.

So that's kind of fired, right?

So Sean Payton's like, you know, it's a tough business.

I know every day I wake up, I might get fired tomorrow.

I'm in that same boat as you, Ross. Yeah.
25 years ago, the Eagles brought in Andy Reid, and they didn't extend my contract. I know exactly how this could happen.
Yeah. Do you feel bad for Russell Wilson? Hold on.
Let me look up all the money he made uh let's see yeah that really is like a big part in it i do feel bad for him on paper i feel bad for him um but i also think there's a lot of this was his doing uh in his own all right so he i guess i don't know how the rest of his contract how much is guaranteed but let's just say he if he makes, I think he's going to make a bunch of this still. He's so far in his career made 266 million.
If he makes the rest of his money, he makes 477 million. So no, I do not feel bad.
I feel bad for Russell Wilson the same way that I feel bad for internet Explorer where it's like, it's, it's hanging around. It was very useful for a long time, but it's just sad to see it on a desktop somewhere and you just never want to use it ever again if if you're using it at any point you know that your job is not going well yeah yeah it's like or like i'd feel bad for like blockbuster it's like oh that was a shame yeah like they really should have thought differently there yeah it was it was fun to like walk to blockbuster on a snow day yeah the smell it used to have when i was a kid that was cool i remember that i remember blockbuster so it makes me sad that it's not around right yeah like i remember russell wilson when he was fun it was fun he was fun to watch, but it does feel like a lot of this was his doing.

Like if you could go,

if you could hit him with true serum,

like,

Hey dude,

maybe you should just stayed in Seattle.

Like you had it pretty good there.

I know that,

you know,

Twitter got in your head a lot and said Russian cook,

but maybe it was a good idea that they always were trying to establish the

run,

you know,

even though they couldn't,

that was probably good.

We'll always have the danger,

which,

Thank you. cook but maybe it was a good idea that they always were trying to establish the run you know even though they couldn't that was probably good we'll always have the danger which yeah he definitely played himself out of a hall of fame career right i don't know that's gonna be top quarterbacks all time i think you had him nine this was like four years ago so i didn't disagree like i i didn't think it was that crazy but i think you had him like nine or ten and it's like he wouldn't be anywhere near that because it was right when it was like he was really good he had a super bowl he had probably like seven eight years left so you were just projecting and i i didn't disagree i was just like yeah i mean like if he just keeps being this good for a really long time the way the the league has gone, all like the best quarterbacks, quote unquote, are going to be in the last like 15 years.
Yeah. Then when he left Seattle, that's when we all got to experience more of what Russell Wilson was all about.
And we're like, as, as a country, we're like, that's too much. Russell Wilson in Seattle.
He was nice. He was a little bit sheltered.
Yeah. yeah the media up there was very friendly to him we didn't get all the stories from marshawn lynch about how they wouldn't talk to each other and how marshawn had to like call his agent to talk to him and then all that's come out in the last two and a half it was really it started with the finger injury when he came back from the finger injury and he was doing the simulated reps on the field.
He was doing the fake high fives. That's that's when Russ turned bad.
That's when he broke bad. It's actually a really interesting hypothetical.
How quickly would America have hated Russell Wilson if he was drafted by the Giants? Pretty quick. New York media would have.
Yeah, they would have found that out right away they've been like this guy's weird and again like russell will russell wilson is not he's not a bad guy at all he's just a weird guy there's a big difference i think like he's not i don't that's where i would start to feel bad for him because it's like he's not there's nothing about him that is like truly a bad person I think he's just a weird guy who's like he kind of is like if if like Gary V became a starting quarterback where you're like all right this is a little much I don't know I I think if he was on the Jets we would have hated him from day one they play a little bit nicer with the Giants for whatever reason if he was the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys America would have hated him in training camp his rookie year yeah yeah i mean i he was one of my favorite badger seasons so i i still have love for him there um but yeah i guess to answer the original question i'd say i feel 20 bad for russell wilson and then if you show me how much money he's made it goes down to 10 yeah you Yeah. You show me a picture of his wife and I'm like, he's doing okay.
Yeah. He's having a, he's, he has a pretty good life.
Okay. Last two games, Bengals, the chiefs.
I think this is the get right spot for the chiefs. I think the chiefs are going to beat them.
I think the chiefs, it's basically if the, if Andy Reed, which is asking a lot, if Andy Reed can be like, hey, you know what we can do in this game? Just run the ball. We'll be fine because, you know, we've talked about it.
The Bengals' defense is not that good. DJ Reader being out has been a really big problem.
You saw it last week with the Steelers and Mason Rudolph and how they ran the ball. So if the Chiefs are smart here, kind of like the Eagles like just run the ball run the ball and win the game by by two touchdowns and and feel good about yourself we've started to see a little resurgence of clyde edwardsy layer recently which is always good because he was a big time what happened to that guy person yeah yeah i'd like to see them run the ball too i just don't know if the chiefs are capable of getting right they might be so wrong that it's just they might win ugly games but i i don't think that they're capable of flipping that switch and getting right oh man memes just sent this to us pft it is from april 15 2020 top 10 nfl quarterback since 1980 so this is peak covid discussion you had russ at number nine ahead of Patrick Mahomes.
That feels like it was a troll. We need that.

Yeah. So this is peak COVID discussion.
You had Russ at number nine ahead of Patrick Mahomes.

That feels like it was a troll.

We need that.

Yeah.

You had Mahomes 10 too.

Yeah, but I had no one else.

Like everyone else that I had Mahomes.

I didn't have anyone else who's current ahead of Mahomes.

I had everyone whose career was over.

You had Steve Young ahead of Mahomes.

Yeah. And Mahomes would obviously get ahead of of him this was before he won his second Super Bowl

but I didn't have anyone else

contemporary against Mahomes

I'm looking at this list right now

I think we knocked out of the park

these are lists

I remember it vividly like you

saying Russell Wilson

and then you kind of convinced me.

But yeah.

Well, in 2020, where's Mahomes done?

Yeah, he had one Super Bowl.

I mean, the fact we had Mahomes on this list is pretty crazy.

He had one Super Bowl.

Hank was the only one who had Big Ben.

Look at Hank.

He also had Bortles number three.

Big Ben five.

Oh, he had Bortles number three.

Yeah.

Okay.

I didn't see that.

Yeah.

Yeah. So and Russell Wilson is nowhere near top 10 now that's a lot of football that's happened since nowhere near a top 10 now nowhere near uh wait so you you like the bangles or chiefs i if we're talking spread i like the bangles but i think the chiefs are going to win.
They have to get right. They have to get right.
Okay, last game, Vikings, Packers, Jaron Hall playing for the Vikings. No Hawkinson, no Addison, I believe.
It feels like Kevin O'Connell, who's done a great job this year keeping this team. I do really feel bad for Vikings bad for Vikings fans because this was this was the year of Kirk Cousins stays healthy.
Like they would not have been fraudulent. They would have been like, think about how wide open the NFL playoffs are going to be.
The Vikings would have been absolutely live with Kirk Cousins in the way he was playing. And now Kevin O'Connell is stuck with like his fourth quarterback trying to be like, maybe this is the spark.
He's just searching for a spark everywhere he goes.

And it's Jaron Hall's turn.

The spread is Vikings

minus one, right?

Yeah, I think it was two and then Jaron Hall made it one.

I love the Packers

in this game. I know.
I love them.

Now, they are

missing a key component on defense. Correct.
Jair Alexander. And we should talk about what happened with him because this might be my favorite story of the second half of the NFL season.
He is from Charlotte. They were playing against the Carolina Panthers.
Which Matt LaFleur probably didn't know. He might not have known.
Okay. But Alexander nominated himself.
He sent himself out onto the field as a captain before the game. And not only did he make himself a captain for that game without his coach's knowledge, but he also thought that since he's from Charlotte, to be fair, he's from Charlotte.
From Charlotte. It was up to him to call the coin toss in the air.
So he called the coin toss, and then he incorrectly told the referee that they wanted the defense on the field instead of deferring possession to the start of the second half. The ref stepped in and said, wait, what are you asking for? And corrected him so that he didn't give them double possessions on kickoffs.
I think we should investigate the refs because they let the Packers get

away with.

That's a, that's a good point.

But that this, I agree with you.

One of my favorite stories of the year, him doing the press, like press

conference at his locker with the macho man, Randy Savage glasses.

And just being like, coach didn't know I was from Charlotte.

Like I was going up there and, and everybody knows teammates teammates have been like, dude, what are you doing? I put that on the other captains actually. You have to nominate better captains and empower them to take leadership when they see a fake captain going out with them.
To be like, no, no, no, you're not a captain. We talked about it last week with Rizul Douglas and how that was probably the worst trade in season this year.
Imagine if the Packers had traded Jair Alexander, they probably would have gotten a lot more for him and they would have kept the cornerback who is can stay on the field and also is not crazy. I love this though.
He's just who does that? Who's like, yeah, coach coach well he's from charlotte he probably didn't know i was from charlotte so if he had known then he definitely would have made me the captain the speaking yeah in fact yeah i mean he's from charlotte like he's got to get everyone he's he's from charlotte i don't know what i don't know what matt leflore was thinking like the dude's from charlotte i blame joe barry for this actually. He should have said something about it.
I had a lot of Packers. Also, it'd be about like, they're like, all we talked about at Christmas was Joe Barry.
Did you know that Joe Barry was the, I think he was a defensive coordinator on the Lions team that went on 16. Ooh, he was Will Compton's coach too.
On the, on theskins yeah yeah it's um i i like the packers too here which is probably stupid because we if both of us love uh aside usually we're really dumb um okay should we should we do our picks then let's do our picks so i don't even know what the standings are does anyone know what the standings are? I think Hank's eliminated. I don't think he's officially eliminated.
I think I'm up two and a half points on him. Three and a half.
I don't know. Jake didn't send us the standings.
I'll ask him for the standings right now. Why don't we just say, let's just give Hank and Jake's picks.
We'll give them their first picks and then we'll go from there. So Hank sent the picks to Max, his picks to Max.
Max, what are Hank's picks? Patriots plus 13, Ravens, Dolphins over 47 and a half. Okay, so that's his two picks and Jake's two picks are the Bucs minus two and a half half and the bears Falcons under 37 and a half.
So Max, you want to go first and we'll go snake. Sure.
I'm actually going to fade Hank. I like bills minus 13.
Okay. Memes.
I'm going to go Niners. 12 and a half.
Okay. PFT.
I'm going to take the Packers plus one. Okay.
I'm going to take, so I got two here. I will go with the over in Rams Giants, 43 and a half.
And then I'm going to take the Cowboys minus five and a half. On PFT.
I'm going to take over in Houston, Tennessee, 43 and a half. Oh, Hank is eliminated.
I have the stand. Oh, he is? Yeah, Jake is at 20 and a half.
Max is at 17 and a half. Memes is at 17.
So Max and Memes, this is very important. I mean, it's going to say that we should do another pick.
It's the holidays. What did you say, Max? I'm just going to lose on the last second, on a historic fashion again in week 18 there that's the only way it's gonna go it's gonna be me and hank getting punished again it's gonna be it it is what it is and then in the main show it's i have 22 and a half points pft you have 20 uh hank has 15 and a half so yeah it's okay yes yeah so if he wins four he, he gets 19 and a half.
You already beat him. So Memes and Max, what are your picks? Because these are very important.
I'm going to go over 44 in the Bengals-Chiefs game. I have over 44 as well.
I thought you were going to take my pick. I will go over 44 in Texans-Titans.
I already took that. Oh, you did? Fuck me.
And it's 43 and a half is what I'm looking at right now. Shit.
You dick. I'll go over this game sucks.
I'll go over 38 Falcons Bears. We'll give you 37 and a half because that's what Jake has.
all right love it 37 and a half uh okay those are our picks let's do we got hot seat cool throne so we got hot seat cool thrones we never show on wednesday hot seat cool thrones brought to you by our friends at coors light coors light helps you find moments to unwind big work presentation follow it with a happy hour some friends in a cold coors light weekend chores take saturday off and hit the tailgate even if you don't have tickets to the game whenever you need to hit reset reach for a Coors Light it's made to chill there's only one beer out there that's literally made to chill and that's Coors Light mountains on the bottles and cans even turn blue when your beer is cold that way you always know when it's time to chill we need to hit reset just open a Coors Light it's mountain cold refreshment made to chill Coors Light is the one I choose when I need to unwind I've had a couple Coors Light this week uh they really hit different in the desert there's nothing like a Coors Light in the desert so when you want to hit reset reach for the beer that's made to chill get Coors Light delivered straight to your door drizzly or instacart by going to Coors Light.com slash take celebrate responsibly Coors Brewing Company Golden Colorado Coors CoorsLight.com, slash take. Hot seat, cool, throw on PFT.
My hot seat is Liberty. Liberty on the hot seat.
On my flight out here to Arizona earlier this week, I happened to be on a plane that I had a layover in Los Angeles. The the connecting flight that i took into phoenix was with the oregon football team and so they were all on the plane they are so fucking big they are huge they're so strong and uh 17 points is not nearly enough points they're so strong and he strong.
They're so strong. And they've got great haircuts.

They've got a bunch of mullets.

They look like they're ready to play.

They were pumped up.

They were high five.

I was sitting next to this one guy who I think he was maybe,

I'm going to guess he was the mascot,

either the mascot or like an equipment manager.

But every player that walked past him reached over to him

and dapped him up on the way back there. Wait, how did you, how were you on the same flight as the Oregon football team? It was a connecting flight in LA somehow that they also connected in LA to go to Arizona.
Wait, were you, it was their flight. Like you were on the same plane as them.
Yeah. That's crazy because I thought like they, I saw a video on like sports or them getting off the flight.
the flight did they do the the weird did you get off the flight like out of a gate or did you go down like the staircase no i got off the flight onto a gate and then walked like through the airport like a normal person huh that's crazy i mean that's cool there might maybe there were a couple guys that that didn't take that flight but there were at least, I'm going to say, 25 or 30 Oregon football players on this flight. That even goes more to your point, because it could have been the backups or non-scholarship guys, and if they're big, whew.
Yeah. Yeah, well, maybe they're so big that they had to take two separate flights because they would have overloaded the plane.
They so big but i can tell you i did not see bo nicks so i don't think that bo nicks was on this flight but they're so big they're way bigger than liberty so i'm this might just be because i saw a bunch of football players up close and i'm like oh these guys are way bigger than they look on tv they look huge so i'm hammering oregon this weekend no i was on a flight from chicago to arizona uh with the liberty team and they were just all stowed in the uh in in the in the overhead yeah in the overhead so i i'm with you yeah this seems to me like a big team against a little team also liberty has dead last strength of schedule in all of college football. So I think Oregon's going to have something to prove.
And I think that most of Oregon's players are playing this weekend too. And then my cool throne is fullbacks.
We're announcing the low man trophy in the pregame, I believe, at the Barstool Bowl. You can see it on the CW.
Same network as Liv. No big deal.
We have a a winner I've collected all the votes this week

we have a very special winner that we're looking to announce in that pregame show I will tell you the three finalists right now for the best fullback in college football we did the we did the the long list earlier now it's been narrowed to three the top three vote getters Ernest Crown rower from texas a&, Stone Eby from SMU, and then Ben Sinnott from Kansas State.

And we have a very special presentation.

A legend in the fullback community will be presenting the award to them

via a video call, but I'm excited to announce it.

It's one of my favorite things that we do.

Recognize the fullbacks.

They're an unheralded group of guys. They don't get any of the shine.
This is their time. The low man trophy.
I love it. I love it.
So yeah, we have so everyone do tune in. It's going to be a great time.
It's Toledo versus Wyoming. Four o'clock Eastern Saturday.
I'll be doing the anthem. PFT will be in the pregame in the halftime.
I'll be on the call with Jake and Dave. It's going to be a great time.
We had a great time last year doing it. It's going to be a great time this year doing it.
It's always super funny when you get Jake in the booth with you and Dave, because you guys have you guys, you can, you can tell which way you're leaning at certain times. And then Jake's always playing it like the straightest that you can possibly play it.
It's a good dynamic. Yeah, I'm a little nervous about this game

because I have Wyoming's coach is retiring,

and he's been there for a long time,

and he's like an old salty coach.

I kind of like him, but I obviously, my heart is with Toledo.

We're friends with Jason Candle.

We gave the scholarship, the NIL deal.

I won a national title there.

I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm really stuck.
I'm really, really stuck. You've got to make a special House Divided shirt for yourself.
Toledo, Montana. Wyoming.
Tune in for the first five minutes of the game. You'll figure out which side I bet.
Guaranteed. All right my hot seat is john moran um because there's a story released today from tom havestra who's actually he's a great writer but this one did make me laugh um his story was more about how there's like basically the the uh beat writers are like don't exist anymore and like it's a problem because things aren't getting covered but it was a story about how ja moran called the referee a hoe last year after a game and i just that headline made me laugh so hard i was just like well i mean the ref was probably being a hoe if we're being honest right yeah which ref was it that makes a difference too right well i had to look it up because i was like wait if it's a female ref then obviously this is a no it was a male ref so we're good well also like maybe it's possible that she was being a hoe too yeah people can be hoes refs can be hoes that's a very funny story though like this is why journalism is dying in america's because we didn't know that john moran called this ref a hoe until just now yes yes yes oh man so and then my cool throne is um with ja i i also i love ja's celebration that he did the night where he just took the the finger guns out after a dunk that that you think he was like happy after he did that or it was just like muscle memory where he just did the guns and then he was oh fuck that's the one thing that i shouldn't do no i i think he's i think he probably like part of the therapy was like you need to get it out some way like it's like you know people like people who are struggling with addiction maybe might get addicted to something else you know like they might you know vape or like exercise drink soda yeah exercise yeah like do real estate deals whatever it may be but like this is this might be good for him yeah i would rather john morant be waving his fingers around in the shape of guns than actual guns this is we should be celebrating that as progress exactly exactly then my cool throne is bowl season um i was down on bowl season because of the nil's and the, well, actually not the NILs.

I don't know why I said that.

I sound like an old man there.

Actually, Minnesota, did you see that?

The story that Minnesota needed, they didn't have a quarterback.

So their third string quarterback had just gotten engaged.

He's like 25 and he was like going to go move to Arizona and start his life.

And because they needed a quarterback, they paid him $30,000 in NIL money to play.

And they won like that.

Yeah.

It's awesome.

But there's something about bowl season every year.

It sucks me in.

It's like,

you're sitting there,

you know,

in this,

this weird,

like Christmas to new year's,

like time doesn't exist.

I've had to ask myself what day it is every single day,

but you're watching the pop tart bowl. Like there was a bowl game, you know, at Fenway Park today that looked miserable.
The Miami just having to play in a cold weather city is like the easiest bet against every single year in bowl season. Rutgers just wanted it way more.
So I love bowl season. I'll never quit bowl season.
I know that people are down on it with the transfer portal and the opt-outs but i fucking love bowl season the one thing we have to make sure to unlearn though is at the start of next year if there's a quarterback that sucked in a bowl game we can't automatically think this guy stinks yeah yeah which i'm not gonna follow through on that no no i'm i i don't agree to that but maybe the only draft analysis said yeah the only draft analysis i've ever gotten right was paxton lynch sucks and that was based on a ball game yeah but this is like i'm saying this to make myself smart in the future but i also know that i'm not going to take my own advice yeah don't just saying in this moment while i'm saying it right now this is the smart thing to do yeah but'm just saying in this moment, while I'm saying it right now, this is the smart thing to do. Yeah.
But I see even in this moment, I disagree. Just let your heart, heart wants what the heart wants.
Yeah. To make decisions on players in meaningless games.
Okay. Let's get to our interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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And now, here's Arnold Schwarzenegger. Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo've ever had on this show uh it is Arnold Schwarzenegger I mean movie star weightlifting legend governor he's done all.
He's got a new book out. It's called Be Useful, Seven Tools for Life.
So Arnold, first of all, thank you so much for joining us. We're huge, huge fans of you, and this is a thrill for us.
I wanted to start with the book, though. We're not very useful people.
We're kind ofums so what what in the book can can you tell us that uh will help us being more useful in life well uh first of all it is a great pleasure to be on your show and uh i've admired your show i think you guys are really entertaining and i happen to disagree right off the top with you when you say you're not useful because the stuff that you do and the amount of entertainment that you bring to people and fun stuff is really incredible and so i think that you should call yourself useful now if there's a question about how to be more useful i think that i think everyone is striving for that i always strive for I always strive for that. You know, how can I be more useful? How can I be more successful? How can I be happier? How can I be better in what I do in order and stuff? That's what makes us really have an exciting life to always strive for being better.
And that's what makes it also fun to get up in the morning when you have a mission. I want to be better.
I want to train harder.

I want to get in better shape.

And,

you know,

I want to have more effect on our community and what I do in order and

stuff.

And that's,

I think what the book is about is to inspire people how to be better and

how to be,

you know,

great.

Now to be happy,

because when you think about that,

the 78% of the people in America hate their jobs. their jobs so you know that that's not a good statistic and i think that we can do better than that i always loved everything that i did even though i had my losses and my downfalls and my uh good times and my victories and all that stuff but i always loved what i was doing and so i want to make sure that people, you know, kind of can read about the seven tools

that I used, how to be more successful and how to really feel good about the stuff that

I do and where you feel like, you know, you're marching in the right direction.

Yeah.

I do think seven tools is an accurate way to describe this podcast too.

We might not be as useful as you, but what would you say would be like the most important tool? Well, I think that the vision, I put this number one in my book, be useful, because I think that vision is the most important thing. If you don't have a very clear vision of what you want to accomplish in life, and if you don't have a very clear vision where you want to go, you don't have anything.
You're just kind of like drifting around. And I see this with a lot of people when they don't have a goal or a specific kind of a mission or purpose to get up for in the morning.
When you get up in the morning,

you have to have a purpose

to know what you're going to do in life

or that day that makes it fun.

I think if you don't have that,

you drift around and you get lost.

And I think this is what happens

to a lot of young people

and even older people.

And so what I'm trying to do

is just show them

how do you create a vision

and tell them the story

about how when I was

Thank you. young people and even older people.
And so what I'm trying to do is just show them how do you create a vision and tell them the story about how when I was 10 years old, I had a very clear vision of coming to America. When I was 15 years old, I had a very clear vision of becoming a bodybuilding champion and being the greatest bodybuilder of all time.
And then later on, and how I wanted to get into movies and be a leading man in the movies. And all of those kind of things I accomplished because I had a very clear vision.
I saw it. It's kind of see it, believe it, achieve it.
You know, that old saying. And I saw that, how it works firsthand.
And I used it with everything that I did and it really worked and so this is just one out of seven tools is have a very clear vision another one that I think it's very important is you know not to listen to the naysayers because you could have a very clear vision and you tell this to people it says look I want to be a great actor I want to be a leading man and they say oh that's stupid i mean you're never going to make that is what do you

think hollywood is going to wait for you in order so i heard all of those things well you want to

come to america this is crazy you want to go to america because what do you think they're going

to wait for you that they need another person over there that's never going to happen when i said i

want to be a bodybuilding champion they say oh no austria has ski champions yeah you know we have

Thank you. over there that's never going to happen when i said i want to be a bodybuilding champion they say oh no austria has ski champions yeah you know we have bicycling champions we have track and field champions soccer champions but we don't have bodybuilding champions that's an american sport what are you talking about this will never happen so it was always no no no everything was always impossible even when i got into movies i remember in the 70s they said you would never make it in the movies you would never be a leading man because you have an accent and you have this overdeveloped body that is not in now in the 70s the little guys that are in and then you have this name schwarzenegger you have to change that so forget about it yeah it was always no no no but i didn't listen to the naysayers i had my own vision and i had my own gore and i said to myself okay if it is so difficult to climb that ladder then i'm just gonna create my own ladder and i'm gonna climb that and i'm gonna make it up there no matter what yeah you did a great job.
I did read that when you started acting that your name was not Arnold Schwarzenegger. It was Arnold Strong for your first couple of movies.
How did you come up with that name? No, no, the producer did. I hated it because I remember when I did the movie Hercules in New York, which is a movie that my first movie ever that went right in the toilet.
And they changed my name to Arnold Strong. But then when I did the next project, like with Lucille Ball, Happy Anniversary and Goodbye, which was a TV show that she did a two-hour special with Art Carney.
Then know, then there was Arnold Schwarzenegger again. Then for Stay Hungry, it was Arnold Schwarzenegger again pumping out.
So all of those other projects after that was Arnold Schwarzenegger because I thought it was stupid to change the name. For what? I mean, you know, and I was absolutely right.
A, that the body worked on the end because I remember when we did Conan the Barbarian, John Milius, the director, said, hey, if we wouldn't have had Schwarzenegger, we would have had to build one. Because I was the only one that really had the muscles to play Conan the Barbarian.
There was no one around to play that character. Yeah.
Right? So that's why they never really filmed it. And so then when I did Terminator, Jim Cameron said, hey, Schwarzenegger, if we wouldn't have had his accent and him talking like a machine, this would have never worked of him playing a machine.
So then all of a sudden the accent was welcome. Yeah.
And then later on with the name, as far as the name was concerned, it was like all of a sudden it became hip to keep your name with the idea that if people cannot pronounce your name or remember your name, by the time they learned it, they would never forget it. So that was the idea.
So people like Gina Lola Pritchett and the actresses and actors like that with complicated names kept their the name and it became fashionable to keep your name. It's it's your career is amazing because I watched the documentary, which was great.
Everyone should go watch it. You kind of alluded to it that you you set out to do all these things and you just you went out and accomplished them.
Like Mr. Olympia and then the movies and then politics like you basically were like, I'm going to go do that, and then I did it.
So was there ever a moment, because I think in life there's a lot of times successful people can sometimes forget the failures or the points where you almost gave up. Was there ever a moment that you said, all right, I'm done, this isn't going to work out? Because it does feel like everything you set out to do, you just did, which is so inspiring.
Well, in the end, I did it. But on the way there, yes, there's always failures.
I remember in bodybuilding, I lost the first few bodybuilding competitions. I remember that the first Mr.
Universe contest I went to in 1966, I lost against an American by the name of Chet Yawton, who was the Mr. America, and then he won Mr.
Universe. So I was 19 years old.
It was okay. With the age of 20, I went back to the Mr.
Universe contest, and I won it, and I became the youngest Mr. Universe ever.
And then after that, you know, I was winning and winning and winning. And then there was another obstacle.
I remember in the Mr. Olympia competition, there was Sergio Lever, who was an extraordinary Cuban kind of bodybuilding champion that now lived in Chicago.
And he was unbelievable. So he beat me.
1969, he won Mr. Olympia and I I came second.
But the following year, I went back, and I won against him in 1970. So, you know, on the way up there, yes, there were losses in powerlifting, losses in weightlifting, losses in bodybuilding, and also politically.
I remember I won the race for for governor and then literally like a year later there was a special election that we held here in California where I wanted to get certain things passed by the people and all those four initiatives lost because the people basically sent a message to me saying don't come us with your problems. We elected you to work with the legislators.
So you work it out with them. And so they voted it down.
And so again, it was a huge defeat. And people say, oh, in 2006, a year later, he's going to lose the governorship.
But I came back again. I told the people, was a mistake to have four initiatives like this and a ballot.
I should work with the legislators. And the people forgave me for it.
And then I came back, and I won with 57% of the votes. I won the governorship a second time.
And so, yes, there are losses the way, and setbacks along the way. And I don't forget them, you know, because the fact is, we learn, you know, sometimes even more from the failures than we do from the successes.
Yeah. And so you have to be very honest.
When you fail, you have to be very, very honest. And you have to say, you know, I fucked up.

Yeah.

Here's what I did wrong.

And then analyze it and then take the blame for it.

And then not kind of like blame someone else for it and say, well, it's his fault.

And she's her fault.

And this fault.

And that fault.

No.

You've got to go and just look in the mirror and say, you fucked up.

And here's what you did wrong. And then just write that down and then deal with that and improve on it the next time.
So this is exactly what I've always done when I had a failure like that. That's a great answer.
Yeah. Yeah.
Just admitting, admitting your fuck ups goes a long way if you're being honest. Oh, absolutely.
You got to be honest and just say, you know, I did something wrong here because otherwise you would never learn.

You would never learn.

If you don't admit it and just recognize the problems that you had, I mean, you would never learn. Yeah.
You brought up the governorship, the governator, which was an awesome nickname. Unbelievable.
That you had. I mean, how could you vote against the governator? You had like a built-in campaign slogan there, especially for-election so uh there's another movie star

that's i think getting into politics kind of followed i guess you could say like a similar

trajectory to yourself different a little bit but um the rock dwayne johnson i feel like i feel like

he's priming us to get into politics at some point have you reached out to him have you talked to him

about a future in politics no no i'm i'm uh i've known him for many many years and uh he and i are

Thank you. out to him? Have you talked to him about a future in politics? No, no, I've known him for many, many years.
And he and I are friends. And he has been kind enough, when I ran for governor, and then became governor, to take over the after school program movement that I was in charge of, that I started 30 years ago, after school all-stars.
So he was the honorary chair for a year until we found somebody else to do it. And he did a great, great job.
And he was very, very helpful. And he was very helpful with my race for governor and everything like that.
So we have really been communicating and I've admired his career. And so he's an extraordinary human being with a tremendous amount of willpower and multiple talents.
You know, someone that is so well versed in wrestling and then in acting, show business and all of that. I mean, you know, he's really, really talented.
And so I'm very happy for him. And if he ever, you know, reaches across and wants to go and get out of acting and go into politics, you know, I'm more than happy to talk to him about that if he needs or wants any advice from me.
Yeah. We want to talk to you a little bit about your movies so we're children of the 90s so uh you were a seminal part of our childhood um the first question i have about your movies when you were doing uh terminator 2 did you at any point realize that you were going to scare an entire country of children with t-1000.
And then actually in a weird way,

like I grew up being like Arnold Schwarzenegger would save my life if I ever get a robot that's coming after me because T-1000 was the scariest thing I've ever seen in my life. And you, you sit, you, thankfully you were there to save the day.
Well, I mean, uh, I, um, I have to say that Jim Cameron, the director who wrote Terminator 2 and Terminator 1, of course, 2 and all that, and directed it, he really came up with this concept. And I remember that when he came to me and he says, in this movie, you will play the good guy.
And I said to myself, why is he doing that? It worked so well in the first one when I was really the machine, the bad guy that just destroys everything. Why would he want to change that? And so I had kind of a negative attitude about it until I read the script.
When I read the script, I got it. And I just thought he did such a brilliant job with that, how he turned that whole thing around and how he had determined to come back to actually save humanity and the human race and not the machines.
And he then created this T-1000 I kind of played the outdated model, the T-800 so then there was that T-1000 that could do all kinds of additional stuff that I could not do and so it was a real threat and I think that's what created the suspense in a movie and why it became the most popular movie that year. It was the number one box office success, not only domestically, but also internationally.
You know, and I cannot even take the credit for that because Jim Cameron really has to get all the credit for that because he created the characters and he directed it. So he was really the genius of this whole thing.
It's an incredible movie. Also, how often do people ask you to say, get to the chopper? I know that's a different movie, but day to day.
Well, I mean, it's like the people, when I ride the bike through the streets in Santa Monica or Venice, I mean i mean people call out many times scream loud get to the chopper and i said that's really funny you know put the cookie down you know someone will come up to me and just says i'll be back in a very dramatic way and stuff So, you know, people throw my movie lines around all the time. I hear it all the time.
And the funny thing about it is I tell you guys that you never really know when you do the movie that this is going to be a very much quoted movie line. That people are going to like that and they're going to repeat it over and over and over.
You don't know. When we shot I'll Be Back in Terminator 1, we did not know that anyone is going to repeat that line.
And the same thing was, you know, we get to the chopper. We get to the chopper, I think people just think it's funny because I don't say chopper, you know, with an R on it.
I just say chopper. And so they imitate that when they scream loud on the street, get to the chopper.
So that's the funniest thing. It's just the way I pronounce things that makes it then funny, and that's why people repeat it.
And it's memorable. It's so memorable.
Yeah, that's the part. Yeahator 2 was a great film i again like i'm i'm a little bit nervous interviewing you just because i've seen you so much and you were such like a big part of my childhood as a guy that that played the terminator you were you were like first on the scene for skynet what are your actual feelings on ai Were you thinking like AI is going to actually destroy the world?

Well, interestingly, when I filmed Terminator 1,

I really looked at it as a purely science fiction type of a movie.

Then as we went on with time, decade after decade,

all of a sudden I realized, oh my God, we are actually going in that direction. And what Jim Cameron wrote about is going to happen.
You know, that the machines are now so sophisticated, so far ahead of human way of thinking, that they are so far ahead. and now the big fear is, you know, how do you make sure that them become self-aware like in Terminator 2 and the machines take over? You know, so this is, I think, the fear that everyone has.
Where is this going to lead? And how do we still control all of this? And how can we stop it from getting to that point? So that's why I always said that Terminator 1 was written so brilliantly by Jim Cameron that originally it was kind of like a B-movie, an action movie. But then when the movie came out, they realized, wow, this is intellectually speaking, I mean, really a very sophisticated movie, not just an action movie.
The action is there. Yeah, it's the visual kind of feast.
But the meaning behind all of that and the writing behind it and what it meant, I mean, And that's why I think Time Magazine, for instance, picked it as one of the 10 top movies of the year. And they normally never pick an action movie like that.
So I think that people really were celebrating the brilliant writing and the sophistication of the script that Jim Cameron wrote at that time. It also taught us that if that ever happens, we just need Arnold.
Yeah. We just need call you today yeah personally and you'll stop that's it yeah that's it to a bunch of kids you were like the a true hero uh are you i don't i i assume you're still lifting what do you i i go every day i i i bike down to the gym and i work out every day for half hour hour, 45 minutes with weights.
And so I do a combination of cardiovascular training and also weight training. And, you know, it's kind of like an addiction of mine.
So I have to do it every day. This is what sets off the day.
My day starts out by feeding the animals, you know, my pig and my three dogs and my miniature donkey and my miniature pony and all those animals.

They come into the house and I feed them.

And then they all go out and they have a good time.

It's really funny.

Then after that, I've done that.

That takes me usually an hour.

Then after that, I go to the gym and bicycle down and then I work out. And then I come back into my work.
Do you still go for max on anything? Do you still bench and squat? No, I don't know. I had my first heart surgery in 1997.
seven and so after the heart surgery i was advised not to kind of lift that heavy anymore and so i then did more reps and less weight because i didn't want to kind of like put extra pressure on the valves you know i had to replace my aortic valve in my pulmonary valve. So they said, don't put any additional pressure on those valves.
Otherwise, they will not last for 15, 20 years, which they will if you don't lift any heavy weights. And so I was very lucky.
I was like, you know, they lasted like, you know, 25 years almost. And because I listened to the doctors and I was watching a little bit more what I eat, I don't eat as much meat anymore, even though I love it.
You know, making the steak every so often and eating Wiener Schnitzel and all this stuff. But I mean, I've cut down around 70% of my meat intake, which is better for the heart and for your health.
And that's it. So I just listen to the doctors.
Yeah, yeah. Do you, this is a random name.
You might not know who I'm about to say, but do you recognize the name Steve Mahalik at all? Sure. He was Mr.
America back in, I think, in the 70s or beginning 80s.

Yeah.

Yeah. Did you ever work out with him? Did you ever cross paths? Yeah, I worked out.
He was always known for his wide shoulders and for his great, great build. I mean, he, interesting enough, he was one of those typical American bodybuilders that, you know, that had kind of the wide shoulders, small waist.
He was good looking. He just, whenever he went to the Mr.
Universe contest, people knew, oh, this is the American Mr. America.
He knew all religions. He looked like a Mr.
America. Yeah.
He was fantastic. He was incredible.
Incredible guy. Yeah.
Yeah. That makes me happy that you knew him.
We've got a friend of his that works with us here and he's always talking about Steve Mahalik. Very versed in every religion.
He knew all religions. Yes, great guy.
And incredible strength. He trained with him.
So he's, you know, it's... I'm just fascinated with the bodybuilding and just...
I mean, it's crazy to watch because you said it's like an addiction um how like when you felt at your peak how good did you feel every day like is it do you think about that do you think like man when I was 19 20 years old and I was at my absolute peak like I just walk around and felt good every day yeah I I think it is uh I mean it really is a great feeling, you know, to be strong. It's a great feeling to have energy.
I was running every day in the deep sand before working out and sometimes after working out. And you just feel like, you know, King Kong.
it was great and to be able to lift this weight I mean I was deadlifting then

over 700 pounds

and I was benchlifting then over 700 pounds,

and I was bench pressing with over 500 and squatting with over 600.

And so I was competing in powerlifting also and in Olympic lifting and weightlifting.

So, I mean, I felt fantastic.

And I felt – I think this is the thing that i'm talking about in uh you know is to be useful is is how important it is that we do something physical yes you know you train really hard it doesn't just have to be bodybuilding anything where you exert and you do something that you feel like really productive you're productive you've done something for yourself you've gotten in great shape because of this training and all this. It doesn't matter what it is, you can walk up Mount Everest and climb up there.
It makes you feel good that you've accomplished something really great. And I think it gives you a positive attitude.
And I see, for instance, when I go to the gym in the morning, you know, I feel like, okay. But then after the workout and the bicycle back, I feel great.
It feels like you're going from a black and white movie to a color movie, you know, all of a sudden. Because it's just the way you see things all of a sudden in a much more positive way.
this is why say to people i said the working out is not just to get a bigger bicep or bigger delts and bigger pectoral muscles and abs notice it's just what it does also psychologically mentally for you it just it gives you such a boost and this is something why i say i'm addicted to working out because i have to do it every day. And it makes me feel good.
Yeah, you get the endorphins going. I mean, the famous quote from Pumping Iron, it feels like you're coming.
You're coming all the time when you're working out. Yes.
You still get that feeling? Well, that was more a publicity stunt. So you didn't feel like you were coming.
I've been working out trying to come. I've been waiting to come.

I've been trying to come for 15 years in the gym

and I've never gotten there. I thought there was something wrong

with me. No, I don't think everything

is okay with you.

Everything is okay with you.

No, but you have to understand that

in those days

to go and to get

big stories

written as a body book. As a football player, you could get any story written, or as a tennis player or baseball player, you could get any story written that you wanted to.
But as a bodybuilder, it was very, very difficult. So you had to be kind of like really way out there of the things that you say so that it's quotable.
And then people say, oh, my God, I got to write a story on this guy this guy just said you know he's coming all the time he's coming in the gym pumping up he's coming backstage he's coming at home every day and night he's coming i mean this is like unbelievable and so then they wrote the story so it actually made it and my goal was actually right and uh you know my take on it, I mean, I always knew how to sell.

That's why one of the chapters in my book, Be Useful, is sell, sell, sell, because it's all about how do you sell something. So I, when I met Muhammad Ali, I was so excited about talking to him because he was the person that was

selling boxing in the seventies more than anyone.

And there was just such excitement when he fought because he was Muhammad

Ali and he was more than just a fighter.

Yeah.

And the way he talked,

his poetry,

how generous he was,

how he gave his money away and,

you know, his religion and Everything was just interesting about him. And I said to myself, well, I want to be the Muhammad Ali of bodybuilding.
I want to really not only lift weights for myself, but I want to lift the entire sport. How can I do that? And so I even hired a publicist for one of the competitions that we had out here that Franco Colombo and I organized called the Mr.
International. And this publicist got us on talk shows and interviews and in magazines and newspapers.
But we knew that we had to say outrageous things so that people go and write about it. And it worked 100%.
Yeah, it did yeah really did you had me fooled it did i mean it also made sense because like this guy's just pumping so much iron like he looks his muscles are enormous i just you know i would feel i i've never felt uh as good like waking up that you like in your entire life you've probably felt better every single day than i have ever felt so i i'm i aspire to be like that very nice so that means that you're working out every day i'm not i need to i need to do something physical every day i use my mind i need to do something physical arnold i had a question about you were talking about like reading a script and being like this is a very good script i think it's gonna be a great movie i think that there are a lot of movies that you're in where you elevate the movie to being a classic. I'm thinking Predator.
I'm thinking Commando. I'm thinking all the Terminators you're in.
But when you're reading a movie, are you imagining yourself as that character? Or what about a script that come across your desk do you look at and you're like, yes, this is a very good project for me to be involved with? Yeah, so I read it, of course, with me in mind when someone sends me a script and says, I want you to play Max in this movie. So then, of course, you visualize yourself playing that character and the way it's written and all that stuff.
But to me, the important thing is always, you know, how great is the action in the script?

How great is the story itself?

Does it have any emotional value?

The way it goes up and down, the emotions and all that.

Does it have any kind of sense of humor in there and this is a story that will sell worldwide because i'm not interested in just doing a project for one country let's say america you know to me that is great to entertain the american people it's my number one goal because that's where most of the money is in box office on tv and so on but i also have to think at the same time about you know is this something that will sell well you know in south africa or in the middle east or in australia uh or in asia and stuff like that so i always try to think i'm i've always been a global person because in bodybuilding you travel around the world so I always felt kind of like I should entertain the world not just one country and I think it used to be back in the 70s and 80s or in the beginning of the 80s the studios always kind of frowned upon that idea because they said the only three places that are important are America, Japan, and Germany. That's where we sell most of our tickets.
And they said, well, but it's a limited way of thinking because you should actually groom the audience in other countries as well and not just get stuck with those three countries. And didn't understand it when i said i want to do conan the barbarian i want to promote it in 10 different countries they said well we don't have 10 countries to go to i said bullshit as it created i said the movie is coming out in france the movie is coming out in england in germany in austria and holl, in Finland, in Denmark, in Sweden, in Italy, in Spain, and all those places.
I said, so I want to go there. And I want to promote myself and I want to promote the movie.
And they said, well, no actor has ever done that. I said, well, I care what some actor did or not did I said I always break new grounds

I said that's my mission in life

I never wait for someone else to show me the way

I said I show the way

and so they sent me to those countries

and then afterwards when I came back

they said oh my god this is amazing

you know we doubled the income

that the ticket sales

that we thought we were going to make

because you were there in those countries

Thank you. They said, oh, my God, this is amazing.
You know, we doubled the income that the ticket sales that we thought we were going to make because you were there in those countries. I said, well, hello, of course.
And so I always promoted my movies internationally, and I always kind of looked at it as an international, you know, marketplace, international, rather than just domestic marketplace.

And I think it all has to do with that I was more international thinking coming from Europe, from Austria.

And number two, because I studied economics in college,

and it was very clear that there is a growing international kind of marketplace in everything, and that

we will be in a global economy eventually.

And so this was now in the 70s, I'm talking about, and exactly that's the direction we

went.

And so I'm so happy that I did travel around internationally and promoted my movies.

The same is with the book, Be Useful, I do the same thing, I go to England, I go to other countries, Germany, to Austria, and stuff like that to promote the book internationally because I wanted to sell internationally. Yeah.
So this has been incredible, Arnold. It's like a thrill for us.
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Maybe this has been done, but this is just an idea, free idea for you for a documentary, which everyone should go watch your documentary that came out a few months ago. But Schwarzenegger versus stallone was one of the best rivalries uh because the world just got bigger movies and bigger guns and more action and the fact that you guys ended your rivalry by uh investing in a planet hollywood together is the most 90s story possible maybe we get that like would that be it was it was it was a fun time do you look it, even though there was some real bad blood, like look back on it and be like, you know, that was, that was kind of good for the audience.
Well, it was also good for us. Yeah.
Yeah. Remember that, that, that, uh, is the loan by being so good made me better.
So he gets, it's kind of like a competition. If you go to the Olympics and you're the only one that is running the 100-meter sprint, you're not going to get the performance out of it as if a bunch of guys are chasing you.
And so it's always kind of the competition that creates performance. And so Stallone, by being good, it made me better.
And by me getting better, it made me better and by me getting better made him better

and so we kind of drove each other up and up and up in in making more and more money in the box office using bigger and bigger knives killing one more people on the screen and using bigger and bigger guns and all this crazy stuff and uh you know but one thing was always clear that we respected each other yeah i always respected him for his talent he had in directing his talent he had in writing his talent he had in acting and in all of this kind of and also in painting and other things like that you know so uh and he respected me so now of of course, when we did our Planet Hollywood deal and we became partners in a Planet Hollywood deal, then we really started hanging out together, flying around the world and promoting the restaurant chain.

And we had a great, great time.

Yeah.

We became great friends.

We need the documentary.

It's a great documentary.

I don't know how many debates have happened all over America back in like 1994. Like Arnold Schwarzenegger could kick Sly Stallone's ass.
No, he couldn't. Like that was actually like a talking point that we would have.
We'd sit down and debate that. For the record, I think you would have kicked his ass.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
I'm going to take that as a yes. I'm going to take that as a yes.
I'm going to take that as a yes. He would have had a great battle.
Yes. great battle was there a movie where you went to and you're watching Sly and you're like you know what that is a very cool gun that he has I need to make a note of that and we need that gun with a modification when I come back in my next film because I can't let him outgun me well every movie that Sly did i just watched it a few times and then i just called the guys the prop guys and the movie on my next movie and said okay watch this movie and get me bigger guns i said it was not it was not even a modification i remember that sly in Rambo ran around with a gun, a machine gun under his arm.
And I said, guys, I want a machine gun that is mounted on a tank or that is mounted on a helicopter that I am using. And so that's exactly what they then created.
That's awesome. It was total madness.
Then I said, what kind of a, I caught the prop guy, I said, what kind of a knife did you use in this movie? And they said, well, it was like a 12 inch blade. And they said, yeah, I don't have a 24 inch blade.
I said, fuck it. You know, so it was like, it was always like outdoing each other.
And, uh, I think that was the fun of it all. Yeah.
Iron sharp design. It's great.
It's great. Well, Arnold, thank you so much.
One anecdote. I did actually meet you at one point in 2014.
It's probably one of my favorite brushes with a celebrity story that I tell. I saw you in Santa Monica outside of a hotel, and I asked you for a picture, and you smiled and said, sure, no problem, and then just didn't break stride and got right in your car.
And I was like, that was the ever so we never got the picture but it was awesome well i mean but that's interesting because when i say yes you can take the picture then you just go and have to take it yeah yeah yeah people because if you would stop every single time yes i can't get to my car yes it was it was perfect so i there's some people that get with the program right away so they walk in front of me have the camera and they just take a picture of us together as we walk and then they get the picture yeah but i mean if people say oh he didn't stop well he didn't say stop yeah can i take a picture and i said yes you can take a picture but he didn't say stop and take the picture because otherwise it would have said no let's walk and take the picture you can do two at the same time yeah no I loved it I loved every second of it the next time you come out here I will not stop either but I mean yeah I'll run with. Yeah.
Take the picture. I really did.

Like, I told everyone it.

I was like, but that was the coolest thing ever because he was, like, so effortless.

So you were just like, sure, no problem, and just kept on going.

I was like, that was awesome.

I love Arnold.

That's funny.

That's very funny.

All right.

Well, anyway, it was great to talk to you guys.

You're doing a great job.

Keep it up, okay?

And we do it again.

Hopefully. Yes.
We'll come visit you. We'll come and do it in person next time yeah get a workout yeah how about that and you come to gold's gym yes done thank you we do your show at a gold's gym i love it we absolutely will do it yes i'm in 100 yes all right thank you so much arnold okay let's wrap up with fire fest the week brought to you by our friends at rob roback pft is wearing the roback hoodie right now roback.com promo code take use it right now 20 off your first purchase uses polos hoodies joggers shorts everything roback.com it is the best clothes out there most comfortable clothes out there roback.com promo code take so my roback question of the week is pft what's your fire fest oh good question uh my fire fest of the week is i've been on an extended trip here i went home uh northern virginia for christmas now i'm out in arizona i've been traveling around a lot driving stay in different places i packed at the last minute when i left initially to go to virginia i thought i threw in everything that i needed for this trip but you know as well as i do when you pack for a trip you always forget one item what would be the one item that you would want to make double sure that you packed enough of yeah you you went robot voice there say it again what would be the one item that you would want to make doubly sure that you packed enough of underwear underwear yeah correct underwear i believe i packed like five pairs of underwear and i would i just grabbed a whole bunch of them i was like this seems like this seems like the right underwear.
So as of right now, as I'm speaking, I'm out of underwear.

So I have to try to go find some more underwear tomorrow to buy.

That's been a pain in the ass.

And also, I realized on this trip just how out of shape I am.

And I'm going to chalk some of it up to altitude because I went up to the Grand Canyon a couple days ago.

Did a hike.

Grand Canyon, fantastic.

Awesome. Five stars.
Five balls. Tremend tremendous review for the grand canyon great job god uh i walked i did a four mile hike so you go down and i went down about two miles and i was like oh this is pretty easy two miles this is nothing i'm barely even sweating right now and i turned around and started to walk back up and And after about, I'd say 30 seconds,

I realized what a big,

big,

big mistake I'd made.

Not factoring that going uphill is going to be way,

way harder than going downhill.

So my body,

my lower body has completely revolted against my upper body and it's sore.

Like first day of squat sore.

So I'm,

I'm in bad physical shape right now,

but I also didn't get to say to myself,

well,

I can eat whatever I want.

So I'm going to eat a bunch of steak,

get that protein in.

Thank you. first day of squat sore.
So I'm, I'm in bad physical shape right now, but I also didn't get to say to myself, well, I can eat whatever I want. So I'm going to eat a bunch of steak, get that protein in.
So I'm out of shape. And then I'm also getting fatter because I'm eating more because I think that I just worked out when in reality I did a normal workout.
And now I'm like, Oh, that was such a hard workout that now I get to treat myself. So double whammy.
That is a double whammy. I have a reverse for you for the underwear thing.
And this shouldn't be a complaint, but it is because I'm just going to complain about it. I'm also in Arizona, and I took my family down here for the week because I was like, if I have to work during Christmas, New Year's week, I don't want to be away from my family for a whole week when we have a week off.

So we're all down here and we got here and there's a washer and dryer in the place that I rented.

That's also a really bad feeling because being like, I could have just, I could have just worn the clothes I wore.

I could have just not packed.

I would have just not packed.

I overpacked by so much.

I'm a simple guy. Like I could have, I could have done a backpack and I would have just done the laundry like twice.
I would have just not packed yeah i overpacked by so much i'm a simple guy like i could have i could have done a backpack and i would have just done the laundry like twice i would have been fine you do a load every night like but like really when if you have a washer and dryer you need maybe three pairs of underwear and then like a one pair of pants and like two sweatshirts and you're good yeah so it's very true i i've thought about doing the hotel uh laundry concierge thing and then you look at the price for those and it's like i could i could do like four days of laundry and that's gonna run me like 200 bucks yeah you could just buy new underwear for like i'm just gonna i'm gonna buy new underwear or at the very least turn the ones that i have inside out yeah no problem um all right my fire fest um is it's something that happens every time around this year but it is going to be january 1st and um diet does start on tuesday and then pft we have i have you i don't know if you've thought about this but i have the double whammy of um our birthday month is coming up and it's our last birthday in our 30s um and i am trying to tell myself that when i turn four i have to turn 40 in good shape in the best shape of my life so this is like this is basically diet starts tomorrow uh like on steroids it's every life starts tomorrow my life starts. Like I've told myself I'm going to turn 40 when I turn 40 and we're not turning 40 for another 13 months.
So people, please don't say that we're 40 at the end of January this year. But when I turn 40, I would like to be in good shape because I feel like once you turn 40, it's like what shape you're in at 40 is what shape you're going to be in for the next 20 years i know that doesn't make sense but that's just what i've told myself so i'm going to put in a very concerted effort uh starting on tuesday i want everyone to be please be you know supportive of me um max and i have a lifting plan we're going to get into max you know we're doing that we're actually going to start that monday max just so you know love it uh i don't know if I'll be there in time Monday, but Tuesday I'm in.
All right, we're going to start Tuesday. Yeah.
Yeah. Let's not go ahead of schedule here.
That's fine. I've kind of taken a little bit of the opposite approach to it, where I've always thought that nothing that you do before you're 40 really matters.
So once you're 40, you're an adult.

And you're right.

Like if you turn 40 and you're not in good shape,

nobody ever gets in great shape after they're 40

unless they're one, divorced,

or two, like a former funny chubby actor

that then converts into being like a superhero actor.

And then you can get in really good shape. But besides that, you don't really clean your life up that much in terms of your physique.
But I also just think that like when you're 40, that's when you're grown up. That's when your health starts to matter to you.
So I look at my 39th year as being like, this is the last hurrah. Like get it all out of yourself.
Do all the drugs in the next year. And then you turn 40, and then boom, adult.
Okay. All right.
Maybe I'll go with that method. I just, I feel like I'm, okay, yeah, I like that better.
I like that better. It's easier, right? Like, we're still kids, big cat.
We are still kids. We could still get arrested, and people would be like, well, they're just kids.
Yeah. They're just rascals.
We have one more year of being a rascal. I remember I had a buddy who got arrested when we were like maybe 23.
And it was just like, we're not kids anymore. You can't, you can't get arrested in your, in your twenties and be like, ah, it's just kids being kids.
You know, the type of crime really matters. I don't, you, you can't get like a drunken public after you're 30 yeah but if you're in your 20s then it's like okay they're still figuring out how all that works but um yeah i'm just gonna tell myself i got one more year being a kid yeah just a kid by the way before we kick to the lottery ball we got breaking moose breaking moose so our aforementioned friend sam schwarzstein just sent us a video pft of a drunk browns fan leaving the stadium and his name his customized jersey is skid mark so um i just tweeted and i'm just i don't know where this guy is i don't know where you know like what his life is about but i just tweeted that if the browns get to the super bowl skidmark is getting one of the tickets from me and you.
Okay, that's fair. I think that's fair.
It'll probably be Skidmark and that other drunk Browns fan. The drunk guy, yes.
Yes, Skidmark and the drunk guy. And what makes this video...
And a lot of people say, tweet me the Leo meme on Tuesday when they're like, when you said the drunk Browns fan is getting a ticket.

What makes this video so much better is that he's,

he's being carried by his buddy rocking a Trent Richardson, Jersey.

Yes. Yes.
Oh man. Skin Mark Browns fans rule.

Congrats to the Browns in the playoffs. Okay.

That was the conclusion of the zoom show.

We'll see everyone back in studio on Tuesday. We'll have a show so we're going to recap everything from the weekend uh please do tune into the barstool arizona bowl on saturday and thank you for everyone for being patient with a couple zoom shows you know we uh don't love to do them but we had to do them this week so we did we did tape a lottery ball so we have a lottery ball so let's kick it to ourselves with a lottery ball okay last of the year numbers eight 18 40 71 20 3 28 Pug.
Pug. Pug.
Pug.

Give me that eight.

Give me that eight. Give me that eight.
Long wait here. It's like waiting for the ball to drop.
Fitting. Ten.
Nine. Eight.
Seven. Six.
Five. Four, three, two, one.
Happy New Year.

Nine.

Oh.

Nine.

That was thrilling.

I like that.

Love you guys.

See you next year. We're talking away.
I don't know what I'm about to say. I'll say it anyway.

Today's another day to find you shining away.

I'll be coming for your love of faith.

For your love of faith.

Take on me.

Take me on I'll be gone, but I don't want you Needless to say, our hearts heads, but we stole it away.

Though we learn that life is okay, say after me, I feel better to be safe and sorry. To be safe and sorry.
Take on me, take me on, I'll be gone in a day of two. Take me Take on me, take me on, I'll be gone.