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Just various points of football games. So we're going to talk about every game.
The Lions clinching the first NFC North title in history, in their franchise history. First home game since 1993.
We have the Cowboys-Dolphins, the Narrative Bowl, the Fraud Bowl. we're going to talk ravens niners at the end because we're taping it in the middle of the third quarter right now so we got a lot of the chiefs done the chiefs might be done is travis kelsey has he lost all of his skills a lot of football to get to and we're doing it all together with the family plan now streaming on apple tv plus starring mark walberg when his past catches up to his present an assassin turned dad embarks on an action adventure packed road trip to save his family we've all seen this movie it's an awesome movie great there's nothing better this week when you're between christmas and new years and it's just kind of like a blank week that time just forgets that's movie time with the family so watch the family plan on Apple TV plus our guy Mark Wahlberg in this great great movie the family plan now streaming on Apple TV plus rated PG 13 so go check it out right now Apple TV plus you should have Apple TV plus anyway it's got everything there for you starring Mark Wahlberg recurring guest Mark Wahl.
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Today is Tuesday, December 26th, week 16. Let us be the last to wish you a Merry Christmas.
I got my good friend Stella in the room so I can't too loud, otherwise she'll wake up. We start on Saturday out in Los Angeles where Smith, the new Chargers head coach, showed the team a gif of Tim Robinson in a hot dog suit as the locker room is still trying to find the guy who got Brandon Staley fired.
Josh Allen Rickman said if the Bills playoff hopes are going to die, they'll have to die hard, making plays every time he was snapped the football football passing for a touchdown and slithering for two more the game was tight late but ryan shakira shakira hips did lie as he turned out to be down by contact helping the bills bleed the clock and survive being electrocuted by the dead batteries bills 24 chargers 22 On Christmas Eve Eve, we go to Pittsburgh where Mason Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer

led to slaying on the Bengals with the help of a giant sack by T.J. Watt.

George Michaels Pickens whammed the secondary early and said,

you're in a lot of trouble.

Kike Brownings fudged everything up while his counterpart Mason was was more accurate than the cincinnati zookeeper here we go stillers here we go pittsburgh's probably not to fire their coach here we go pittsburgh 34 cincinnati i love it down to houston where amari started off the podcast saying what's up daddy gang it's, here to gluck-gluck the life out of the Texans' playoff hopes as he and Joe Flacco with an F hooked up for 265 yards and two touchdowns. Case Keybump couldn't snort life into the Texans' offense as Davis Millsy Bobby Brown had to come in and command the 11 on offense.
Even without Dustin Anthony Hopkins kicking for the better part of the game, the Browns were able to take a shortcut to happiness and all but clinch a playoff word. Browns 36, Texans 22.
Down to Atlanta where Arthur Smith was going to get fired, but then he got high. The offense was looking real tired, but then he got high.
They're probably going to still miss the playoffs, but at least they'll try. Why, man? Why, man? Because he got high.
Because he got high. Because he got high, Nicky.
The Falcons might have found a spark for their offense, but it's too late or too late for the Dirty Birds as Bijan Slob on by Robinson tied the colts up like a ponytail on shane stinking a blowjob day buckingham palace gardener minshu is stoic after not doing his job and watching a very bad violent end if you're in diana falcons 29 coach tell we head to the windy city where justin trudeau fields bounce back after a terrible brown facing answering critics that ask, can he play quarterback with a can I? Duh. Khalil looked like he made the Cardinals defense smoke some herb, er, before the game, reminding everyone that tackling well high is a DUI as he went for over 100.
Cole, how I met your mother, Masvito, along for 107 yards, and the Bears comfortably won the game, their last play being a QB, Neil Patrick Harris. Bears 27, Cardinals 16.
Whoop, whoop. We go over to Minnesota where the Detroit Lions were officially looking to escape the ass label thanks to Amonra Taint Brown, who found himself around balls all day long.
On defense, Ifitu should leave Melio Vafu, had an interception as fellow sketch comedian Nick Mullen is trying to find out who did this.

Dan Campbell dragged Minnesota out to sea until it was exhausted, then lit their boat on fire, giving them a Viking funeral.

Jameer Aquai Gibbs put the Vikings into virtual insanity, and they'll be dancing on the ceiling in Detroit,

where they have won the division for the first time since Hank Lockwood was one-year-old, crying and whining and pooping himself and sucking on boobies, much like he still is to this very day. Lions 30, Vikings 24.
We head over to Philadelphia with our correspondent, Maxwell Delente. Hey! We head over to Philadelphia where the Giants finally sent Tommy DeVito sleeping with the Southern Fishes.
Shaq O'Neal Leonard had the Eagles fan saying, I owe you an apology. I wasn't familiar with your game.
As he finally had his first good game with the Eagles. Boston Scott Stratt got absolutely leveled by his own teammate, leaving his arms wide open, resulting in the most embarrassing turnover since the Buckethead.
However, DeAndre Taylor Swift was able to find blank space late and burn enough clock for the Eagles to win ugly. Eagles 33, Giants 25.
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Where? What's that up in the sky? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's the original one-star recruit. Jesus Christ.
Getting the most unlikely birth since we wrote the bills off a month ago. His mom was a virgin.
That's why we say Merry Christmas. Despite offers from smaller walk-on plans, Jesus chose Earth for the opportunity to start right ahead, going from walk on to walk on water in record time for this coach's son.
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Week 15, 16, sorry, in the books. That was fastest two minutes via Zoom.
Only time we'll do it via Zoom this year. Thank you for everyone understanding, but we're here.
We're ready to talk football. I know we're going to talk Ravens Niners at the end, but was that Brock Purdy's fourth interception that we just watched? Yeah, Brock Purdy's having a bad, bad night.
He's having a worse night amongst the two quarterbacks, one of whom tripped over a referee and had a safety in the end zone. So pretty bad night for Brock Purdy.
I hope he'll figure it out. There's still a lot of time left though.
We'll see. We'll see what happens.
We'll, we'll, we'll have, we'll have to, uh, there's a lot of time left. And I did just jinx it.
Cause I did say, uh, I'm officially over the ref safety. Cause I was arguing about it.
You know, you could tell when you, when someone has a lot of money on a game, cause they're arguing points forever. Uh, I was, I was getting into the the weeds with the ref safety with all the people saying that Lamar Jackson, it was his fault and the ref had nothing to do with it.
And then after like 20 minutes, I was like, I'm over it, knowing that I wasn't over it. So I just did say I'm over it officially because the Ravens were easy.
I didn't realize there was 11 and a half minutes left in the third quarter. That was probably a lot of time.
When I looked down, I swear to God, I looked down at the clock. I saw 11 minutes left and I thought to myself, that's got to be a mistake that they mean fourth quarter.
There's 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter. No, there's a lot of ball left.
But the way Kyle Hamilton's playing right now, it doesn't look good for Brock pretty, but it's funny that people were arguing in favor of like the referees on that

call.

They were doing like,

well,

Lamar should have been hanging out in that neighborhood at night.

If he didn't want bad things to happen,

like he,

the referee literally tripped over his own feet as he was backpedaling,

laughed on his way down.

Like,

Oh fuck,

I'm really screwing this up.

Lamar fell over him through a pass that he,

he probably would have been able to get to the line of scrimmage.

I don't think he wasn't going to be able to get away from chase.

Thank you. fell over him through a pass that he probably would have been able to get to the line of scrimmage.
I don't think he wasn't going to be able to get away from Chase Young because Chase Young was kind of on top of him in that moment. I still think he might have been able to.
This is Lamar Jackson. He would have definitely.
It's the one guy. It's the one guy who if any other player, I would have absolutely conceded that Chase Young would have sacked him.
Lamar Jackson is the one guy who we've seen time and time again elude everyone right big Ben would have just shrugged him off and walked out of the end zone with him on his shoulders but yeah he at the very minimum would have been able to to throw the ball downfield and get out of bounds it was a weird play by Lamar to begin with but let's not act like a referee falling over his own dick and then tripping a quarterback and causing a safety is something that we're just going to be willing to say, you know what, that's part of the game of football. Yes.
Yes. So we will discuss this game in its entirety once it goes final because there is a lot of time left.
I had no idea, but yes, you have part of my take today. It is via Zoom.
Just me and PFT talking ball. Tight show.
We had a lot of ball, though. That was the last three days.
When we have this many windows of NFL, it's like a fever dream of NFL, where it's like I just don't know when games stop, start. I just feel like I'm always watching a moment while trying to do a billion different other things.
I'd have the holidays no other way, though. Yeah, the Saints-Rams game was on Thanksgiving.
That's how long ago that took place. I can't believe that was this week.
A part of me really liked how they spread it out. I would have preferred to get two games on Christmas, maybe the three games on Christmas Eve Eve.
On Saturday. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But what this weekend has taught me is that it if the nfl wanted to they could put three games on friday three games on saturday i don't know how many that would make for sunday like six games on on sunday and then three more on monday and i would that would be a perfect weekend for me yeah i would do it i would do it i absolutely do it just football on at all times um so yeah let's get into it let's start with the first game which does feel like it was 10 years ago uh Steelers 34 Bengals 11 I want to shout out the Steelers just off the off the top because there are certain games that you need in time slots during the holidays to be blowouts that you can go like one eye on one eye off.

And this was that game. Like I, I got all my, I got my kids into the car and I was like, we're going to the winter wonderland at Wrigley.
Cause I like when the, when the Steelers were up, whatever it was, 24 points in the first half, like this is perfect. This is borrowed time.
I knew I had to say I had to work and now I get to basically be like, guess what? Christmas miracle. daddy's taking you guys to Wrigley so thank you to the Steelers for that

but this was the Georgia say I had to work and now I get to basically be like guess what Christmas miracle daddy's taking

you guys to Wrigley so uh thank you to the Steelers for that but this was the George Pickens game he

had he had the Randy Moss uh stat line where he had four catches 195 yards and two touchdowns

where it's just it was the George Pickens game it doesn't excuse everything George Pickens done

this year it just confirms that George Pickens is worth the headache because he has this in him

Thank you. excuse everything George Pickens done this year it just confirms that George Pickens is worth the headache because he has this in him oh it definitely excuses George Pickens behavior to George Pickens yes for sure like now you can't you literally cannot tell George Pickens anything because they'll say remember that game against the against the Bengals where Mason Rudolph threw for like 150 yards in the first quarter and it's because he he was throwing the ball all the time to me.
Like that is – I bet you he also found something to be upset with after the game with this offense. They still didn't get into the ball enough.
But it does show that George Pickens, when you throw him the ball, he's really fucking good. He's probably still following Mason Rudolph on Instagram right now, right? Yes, yes, definitely.
My my guess he gave him the super follow probably on x he's subscribed to him maybe paying him a small monthly fee but uh mason rudolph i'm looking up right now he had 129 yards in the first quarter it's the most passing yards for a quarterback with no incompletions in the first quarter of the season over uh two had one where he went for 113 mahomes went for 107 herbert had one where he went for 120 so and it also we told you this was coming yeah you're going to get a mason rudolph game on christmas eve eve that's just how it's going to work out i also like i was happy for mason rudolph because i don't think anyone's had a there's definitely been weirder careers maybe i don't know exactly how to describe his career because, first of all, it doesn't feel like you know any third-string quarterbacks, right? Third-string quarterbacks are usually guys who are only going to play in an emergency. Mason Rudolph, it feels like, has been on the Steelers for a while and just sucked up being the third-string quarterback.
And then, obviously, you had the Miles Garrett situation where didn't Miles Garrett say that he had said something and And then we all just said, Oh, okay. Mason Rudolph said something race.
Like it, the narrative on Mason Rudolph, he just kind of sat quietly as a third string quarterback for all these years after having a really bad moment. Um, and now he gets this and I was happy for him.
Like that's, I don't know what he, I don't know how to describe his career, but you know what I'm saying? Like most third string quarterbacks, we don't really know their names or they'll just be journeymen. You'll bring them in.
Like you'll cut them. You'll bring them in again.
Mason Rudolph, we've known for a very long time. Yeah.
And so he was, he was known for having a face that was so punchable that we were kind of like, oh, awesome. When Miles Garrett hit him in the head with a helmet.
Oh, and also, so yeah that and also the concussion when they had to take off his face mask. Those were his two biggest moments.
His two moments. And I'll say this about Mason Rudolph.
He's gotten way less punchable. It might be he grew up the hair a little bit.
Maybe just he grew up a little bit. I looked at him and I was like, you know what? I felt bad that I laughed when he got hit in the head with a helmet by miles garrett i have seen some some steelers fans calling miles garrett miles smollett who after that because they never produced any evidence of of any sort of racist comment i'm not going to get in i'm not going to dive deep into that and figure it out one way or another i just know that at the time the night of the assault um it was funnier than it should have been just simply because we didn't like mason rudolph's face right and so now it's like i feel like kind of a shithead for not liking his face so much that he got hit and that's all we knew him for and it was you're absolutely right because it was um a fucked up confirmation bias where we didn't like his face and then someone said something like oh he's actually a shithead we're like yeah no duh we've been saying this forever because of his face so I hand up Mason Rudolph I feel bad how it's gone but this was an awesome moment I was happy for him and the other part of this game now we are Jake Browning podcast because he does listen but I do appreciate Jake Browning when a guy decides to turn back into a pumpkin I like when they do it with such authority you're like oh yep there it is like we don't have to play this game anymore that interception he threw into the end zone where it looked like in the first half where it looked like it was maybe 10 seconds left in a game on a fourth down he's like I just have to throw it somewhere but it was it was I think the middle of the second quarter and there was no need for him to throw it that was his pumpkin moment it's like okay that was fun good that we know this let's move on he cemented himself as a gunslinger that was a gunslinger throw for sure and I I actually this this was a game when I was watching it I said to myself this game proves how little I know about the NFL seeing the Steel steelers dominating this game that i was sure i think everybody was was sure that the bangles were going to compete i did not you can't tell me that you saw a steelers blowout no no but what we said on friday was this was mike tomlin's steelers legacy culture on the line right so like it wasn't that surprising that the steelers had that because Mike Tomlin what whatever you want to say about him he will find his way to nine wins he's gonna find his way to nine wins they had to win this game to find his way to nine wins I was just shocked by all the points I was shocked at how good the Steelers looked I thought that yeah I did think that the Steelers had had a chance at winning a game by five maybe even six points um I did not see a blowout coming at all.
So it was a good reminder that as much football as we watch, and we should be experts on it given how much we walk and talk about, nobody out there is really – we don't know what's going to happen. And you know the Mike Tomlin path is set because if the Ravens win this game and there's eight minutes left, they're up 18.
And then they beat the Dolphins next week. The Ravens will not be starting anyone in week 18.
And Mike Tomlin will get his way to the ninth to the ninth win. He will find a way to the ninth win.
They'll lose the Seahawks at Seattle and then he'll beat backups for the Ravenvens not trying to be like see nine wins i don't even think it's that crazy that the that the sealers make the playoffs and i'm all fucked up because the playoff machine on espn.com has been broken for a week and they haven't fixed it fix it i don't know who's the who's in charge of disney who's that guy it's bullshit i don't know that guy that uh this is bob eiger bob eiger this is a bridge too far bob unless you're planning on paying us hundreds of millions of dollars at some point um your piece of shit for not fixing the playoff machine because this is really thrown away the the only real tool that i have in terms of projecting football analysis but um i have a feeling like the steelers could it's a it's it's way more likely 12%, 13% odds that they're giving them because I think what has to happen is they need the Jaguars to lose a game, right? Yep, which the Jaguars are really good at losing games right now. They probably could.
Then the Steelers would need to win out. And then I think the Colts and the Texans – They play each other.
They can't finish with – they play each other. So if the Jaguars lose a game and the Steelers win out, I think the Steelers would make the playoffs.
I think it just even is just the Texans or Colts. I mean, if the Steelers win out, which if the Ravens aren't playing anyone in Week 18, that could very well – they've got to beat the Seattle and then beat a bunch of backups i think they'll they'll they'll do it just from that because the texans and colts play each other but yeah it's we could get listen if it's mason rudolph i might be back in on the steelers we might we we might get a little back to back i think if if the steelers were to beat the ravens in that final game of the season they might get a rematch week one no the ravens the Ravens are week two.
Yeah, you're right. There'll be one seat.
They wouldn't start anyone. If they're the one seat, they have to beat the dolphins.
Last thing I had on this game was remember when miles Jack were retired to be a plumber. Yeah, because he was awesome in this game and he signed back with the Steelers.
He was awesome. Like he, he announced that he was retiring.
He's like, I'm going to go to trade school and be an electrician or a plumber. And then he's just playing really good football for the Steelers who have, they have no one in their secondary left.
Like the, besides their defensive line, it feels like everyone has been hurt or suspended. And they, they played a good game.
They, they, I mean, they shut down Jake Browning, who was the hottest quarterback for a while for two weeks stretch. I also think that Pittsburgh would be the worst city to be a plumber in.
Maybe Cincinnati, actually, because of the chili, but Pittsburgh would definitely be in my top three. Well, you know, there's the Pittsburgh toilet.
Have you ever heard of the Pittsburgh toilet? Is that the one where it's back to back? No, and this is from our good friend Nick Turani, who's heard of the pittsburgh toilet is that the one where it's back to back no it's a and this is from uh our good friend nick uh tyranny who's one of the funniest guys in the world he we had this revelation if uh maybe a year ago he thought like everyone had this it's just in the basement a toilet that just freestanding with no walls around it oh no i didn't know that i didn't i didn't know that at all i don't know if it's technically called a pittsburgh toilet but he was like yeah i've growing up i saw like he grew up in west virginia but not too far from pittsburgh the west virginia part of west virginia is kind of pittsburgh um it's where florio lives yeah right and he was like wait you guys didn't have just a freestanding toilet in your basement and we're like no we did not it might be just like a bird bath that was down in nick's basement he was like oh yeah that's my toilet that's where you take a piss but what's the toilet called where it's where it's back to back where the there's two toilets and you share like a back and a side so you can poop facing the opposite direction i don't know i don't know what that is that's a good one too but just thinking of a bunch of yinzers just sitting in a basement with no walls around just taking a big old dump it kind of rocks like you get all the space like you can probably see your tv they actually might have figured out life better than anyone else 360 degree toilet did i ever tell you about the time i went to a concert and i was scarred for life from this i was i think maybe 16, maybe 16 years old. I drove out to go see Poison Play.

And there's this giant venue that was like right outside my hometown.

In the bathroom there, they had a big toilet, like a big urinal trough style in the middle of the bathroom.

But it was a circle.

And so it was like a circular firing squad.

It was probably 20 feet wide in diameter. So it was just probably 30 dudes pissing towards each other.
Yes. Like just full on dicks exposed at all times.
I'm traumatized from that. I'm never going to recover.
A 16-year-old, that was my personal Vietnam. The toilet story.
We should just do a whole toilet stories podcast because there's a bar there's a bar in um lincoln park called duffy's it's a michigan bar and so like it gets packed on saturdays and i was there i was probably like 15 years ago i don't even know if it's still there um but it was one of those bathrooms that had like 10 urinals and then just a toilet with no walls so it's just a toilet at the end and i remember one of the funniest things i've ever seen was like everyone was pissing in there and some guy just came it was maybe like i don't know 12 30 in the morning like or 12 30 you know in the afternoon like kickoff you know is 11 a.m so it was like halftime he just comes in he's like i gotta do it and he just sat down took a shit in front of like 15 dudes and it was just like everyone was cheering him on like yes dude you got do it go for it go for it i could i could go on i got i got a million toilet we'll we'll do that like in the summer yeah we'll just do like the toilet episode yeah the toilet stories um okay so next game yeah the the the bengals are are pretty much eliminated um i think this i think it's now 12 i counted 12 teams in the nfl or seven or eight or eight and seven, which is pretty crazy. It's just everyone just kind of sucks, but also could be good every now and then.
That's just the name of the whole league. The AFC is all eight and seven.
And then the NFC actually, yeah, the NFC is mostly seven and eight. Yeah, right.
It's crazy. So next game, Bills Chargers.
Bills survive. I think that's the perfect way to say it.
This was a classic Bills 2023 game where it looked exactly like the Jets game week one or the Broncos game on Monday Night Football where the Bills were just basically trying every which way to blow this game and if it weren't for Gabe Davis who is the best receiver in the world once every like five weeks the Bills could have lost this game pretty easily because like the gift Smith bounce back for the Chargers and Easton stick the Chargers look like they had life again and they gave every they gave it everything to the Bills they played hard yeah I bet you there's like a million people out there that have gabe davis on their fancy teams that didn't start him this weekend too because he's the ultimate as well he's the ultimate where where was gabe davis this weekend like every time you start him he stinks every time you sit him he's awesome there's going to be a lot of people that will not be renewing their contracts with Gabe Davis this offseason.

He's boomer bust, yeah.

They had to win this game.

Must win for the Bills.

They won it.

It was pretty ugly.

It was kind of dicey.

There was a beautiful moment, actually, at the end of the game

where Easton Stick had the ball in his hands,

driving down the field to win the game.

And within, I think, 10 seconds of each other,

me and Big Cat both tweeted out too much time for Easton Stick.

And when it comes to sarcastically rooting on backup quarter

Thank you. driving down the field to win the game.
And within, I think, 10 seconds of each other, me and Big Cat both tweeted out, too much time for Easton Stick. And when it comes to sarcastically rooting on backup quarterbacks, we get synced up like sorority girls in our periods.
So it's just a beautiful, beautiful moment. It turns out there actually was too much time for Easton Stick.
You could have given them the ball forever. Probably wouldn't have happened.
But the Bills had to win it. And see it seems like the bills will definitely make the playoffs uh they're not like locked into their spot yet but i would i would put a lot of money on the bills making playoffs right now it seems pretty clear they will and you know we obviously get accused a lot of being uh you know bills sympathizers because we are glazers we're glazers we're uh good friends with josh allen i the only thing i'd clarify because we've said this we i gave this speech before the chiefs game when i was like if you like the bills to beat the chiefs take them 35 to 1 to win the super bowl because the afc is wide open and it's not saying that the bills aren't it's not saying the bills are some world beating team it's that the the rest of the pack has come back to the bills like the bills are a jekyll and hyde team this year they've had performances where they've looked incredible and they've had dog shit performances that put them in this hole to start with and like would it shock you if the bills lost to the patriots next week no because that's what they that's their whole season they already lost the patriots once but it's more that the rest of the AFC has come back to the Bills where it's just a mess outside of the Ravens of teams, and I guess you could throw in the Dolphins now, of teams that just don't look that great, and the Bills are starting to rattle off some wins here that they're kind of getting some confidence.
I still think the Bills kind of stink, but the difference between the Bills now and the the bills earlier this season is in the desperate moments the bills can like channel that desperation and use all that emotion and do something good with it whereas earlier this season they would channel all that desperation emotion and throw an interception or they would they would commit a costly turnover and fumble the ball there were some fumbling issues too in this game but i feel like i feel like their desperate moments are way more productive now than they were like two months ago i i i the perfect way to to say the 2023 bills their a plus game i think is up there with anyone else's a plus game like they i think if the bills played an a plus game they can beat the niners they can beat the ravens they can beat all these teams the problem is their a plus game doesn't show up ever really like they've done it a couple times and the rest of their performances they could lose to the Panthers their volatility is so insane that like if you if you put the bills versus the Panthers right now you you'd be crazy to say yeah it's going to be the bills will 100% win this game whereas if you put like the Niners I know the Niners are getting right now, but the Niners versus the Panthers, I put my life on it. You know what I'm saying? Like the Ravens versus Panthers.
I put my life on it. So I think that's what the bills are.
The fumbles, the bills have an issue because James cook is electric, but much like, you know, a horror movie when they'll like the, like scream used to do this that when the scream franchise came out they'll have a moment in the first 10 minutes of the movie where they'll do like a fake a fake you know murderer pops up and it's like oh it's just a guy like you know knocking on his girlfriend's uh car window she got scared she thought she was about to be murdered that's how i feel like james cook's fumbles are like we know the foreshadowing we've seen it it's the fake scare and it's gonna show up in the playoffs and it's gonna kill like that's gonna be the murder because he is so electric and you have to have him on the field but the fumbles now are it feels like it's become more of a thing that uh he's got like maybe it's the miniips where it's just it's happened enough where i'm like uh-oh this probably is going to be how they die

do we still get coaches that make players carry on a football all week like we did in the movies

in uh necessary roughness james cook should carry two footballs around at all times don't use your

hands on anything just have it on the pigskin high and tight and then everybody gets to try

to hit them out it's all day long you put a bounty on causing a fumble and every team has this

Thank you. footballs around at all times.
Don't use your hands on anything. Just have it on the pigskin high and tight.
And then everybody gets to try to hit them out all day long. You put a bounty on causing a fumble.
And every team has this. Every team, every contending team has the one thing in the back of their head where they know like, oh, this has become a thing that has happened enough where when we dive because of this, we can't be that shocked because we saw it all season long.
Once the playoffs start, we should make a graphic of the back of the head items for each team. Yeah.
And Josh Allen's interceptions are also on that, to be fair. I mean, he had another one on Saturday.
But yeah, there's that one thing that everyone has. I mean, I think about the 2018 Bears when Cody Parker, you like, you didn't think I knew Cody Parker sucked.

He had the game where he hit four straight doinks.

Like that's like, you have that one thing in the back of your head that you're like,

if,

if we get into a crunch time situation,

it's a lot of times it's special teams,

like your punting team or your kicker,

but a guy fumbling,

you're just like,

Oh,

this is going to happen in a bad situation.

We're not going to be able to recover.

Yeah.

For Derek,

we should add Darren Revell at the end of the list and back of his

Thank you. fumbling you're just like oh this is going to happen in a bad situation we're not gonna be able to recover yeah for darren we should add darren ravelle at the end of the list and back of his head jfk is back of his head yeah um we should release our head yeah the thing that everyone's scared about yeah um one other fun stat from this game did you know that leonard fernette is 28 years old i saw you tweet that and um yeah that bought me out you probably looked it up huh well no i saw it and i obviously i trusted you i was like damn is he's the new randall cobb he's 28 years old leonard furnette is leonard furnette has never been alive for a detroit lions division championship it's crazy i have another one for you uh mike evans is 30 I didn't realize that is crazy yeah that's nuts too like he just turned 30 yeah the fact that Leonard Frenette looked like he was 30 when he was 18 years old in college doesn't help items yes but yeah he's he's 20 years old which in blogging years he is a blogger that is like 40 yes yes I saw you tweet that I was like fuck man he is the new Randall Cobb but yeah it's good to see lenny back out there uh okay powering on to sunday lions 30 vikings 24 the lions have done it they have won their first ever nfc north title it was the nfc central obviously uh you know 20 plus years ago whatever it was uh when the bucks were in it which was But anyway, the Lions have done it.
They've done it. They've won the NFC North.
First playoff game, home playoff game they're going to have since 1993. First home playoff game at Ford Field, which was constructed in 2002.
They did it in classic Lions fashion, too, where it was almost a a complete complete disaster because they had that game they come out they look great first couple drives awesome um then the vikings come roaring back and then hockinson gets hurt and addison gets hurt so the lions kind of find themselves nick mullen just throwing the ball everywhere i want to get to him in a minute but, I thought that that was going to be the most Lions way ever to lose when on that last drive, John Kaminsky, who's one of the defensive linemen, tried to pick up the fumble instead of falling on it. And then Nick Mullins hits like Justin Jefferson down the field on the next player the two plays after, and they were off and running.
I thought that was going to be the moment. It moments like the lions were about to win the nfc north and all he had to do was fall on that ball instead he tried to scoop and score it and the line is going to be doing but they they they're not those lions anymore they're not the same old lions i'm happy for lions fans dan campbell was on the own 16 team he had all the like the old guys come up and get the game ball,

which was awesome in the locker room.

Like I know that winning division titles, there's still work to be done and you can't celebrate that much.

Fuck that.

Lions fans should celebrate the fuck out of this because that's a,

that's an insult,

you know,

stat that it's been 30 years since you had a home playoff game.

Never want to NFC North.

Now you get to erase all of that.

Yeah.

Kind of a loser move.

Usually when teams go out there and they have all this division champion merch that gets printed up and fans buy that stuff. In this case, every Lions fan should own a piece of 2023 North division champions.
You should own a piece of that merchandise. That be like what you wear to church.
People should get buried in that stuff. It is, it's like a life changing event for people that live in Detroit that have watched so much bad football over the years.
And it's been really bad football and to stick through that. And I saw they got, they got Decker and Ragnow up to the center of the locker room.
They were like, Hey, the old school guys that have been around for a while, like they were part of changing. That's gotta be so hard to like the middle toughness that it would need to take to go to play on some of those awful, awful teams and then turn everything around entirely to the point where you're not just winning your division.
You're winning your division with two games left in the year. You're like dominating your division.
Yep. That's like a massive, massive turnaround where you had to, you you had to be so mad i want to know what was going through their heads when they were playing on their worst team that they were on and like what type of individual can like suffer and last through that and still be able to make something good out the other side because it's a it's a very cool story and because i got i know we did blind resumes last week i have one more blind resume for you yeah but just just to say i to hear the blind resume, but that's like the fact that Dan Campbell was on the 0-16 team is one of the coolest stories.
Like that he has come back and taken him to this point because it has been just years and years of sadness and terrible things. But go ahead, blind resume.
Blind resume season. Quarterback one.
This individual has 3,984 yards, 27 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. Quarterback two has 3,648 yards, 23 touchdowns, 9 interceptions.
So it's 3,900 to 3,600. And it's 27 touchdowns to 23 touchdowns.
Jared Goff and Patrick Mahomes? Jared Goff is the first one. You nailed that one.
The second one, Matthew Stafford. Ooh, okay.
Isn't that interesting? Isn't that interesting? He did play a couple less games, but still. We're not going to talk about that.
We don't want to talk about that. I want to say all positive.
This is blind resume. I don't want to talk about it.
This is blind resume. The stats are what the stats are right now.
Jared Goff more yards more touchdowns and only one more interception than matthew stafford this listen because your best of your best ability is your availability that's a fact right that's a fact jerry goff has been very available yeah if matt stafford doesn't get hurt the rams would already be in the playoffs they probably already clinched um yeah yeah no i i don't want to do any negative line stuff like i don I don't want to talk about their defense. I don't want to talk about anything because it's just it's good for them.
And I know they are a division rival. I was clarifying online.
Like, I'm happy for Lions fans. I'm not happy the Lions are good.
I want the Bears to be better than the Lions. But in terms of, like, if you are, as a sports fan, can't take a step back for one second and just say, hey, I'm happy for those fans because that's like you finally get that monkey off your back where people can stop talking about it.
That's really what it is. It's not like mission accomplished.
We won the division. We're happy with that.
I think all Lions fans want to go. They want to go win a Super Bowl.
Of course they do. Yeah, but it's more just like the narrative and these stats and the fact that it's been this long since the home playoff game like you get to erase all that and that's got to feel good yeah it's it's very tough to root for an entire city to just feel bad you're a piece of shit right if you can't if you're rooting for detroit lions fans and never have any joy you're a thief of joy and you should feel bad about yourself.
I'm actually thinking about this.

That said, how quickly?

Yeah, I was going to say, how many years

so like for you, the Cowboys, for

me, for Max as well, the Cowboys, for

me, the Packers, how many years would they have to

not make the playoffs

for me to then

be like happy for them?

I think it'd have to be like 60. I'd have to be like

98 years old. Yeah.
I'd be like, like oh yeah i guess you guys can get one the thing with cowboys fans and max will back me up on this they they do act like they're super bowl favorites every single season and that was going through the years where they didn't they never won a playoff game like they didn't win a playoff game until what like 2016 um that was like their first win in something like 20 years they they still acted going into every season like they were the hot shit right and and and every other team was beneath them but i think i think probably for them not making the playoffs i would start to feel bad for cowboys fans after okay i think i think 50 i think 50 years is the right amount max is head, which makes me think. I think the rule for this is everyone gets one team in every sport where it's like no amount of years.
Because I'm thinking about it. Even – and it's obviously tricky because it also has to coincide with your team not being good.
Like if the Bears were 7 and 8 right now fighting for the NFC North, I'd feel a lot different know i'd feel a lot different about the lions when the nfc north i'm thinking about if the bears sucked and the vikings won a super bowl i would feel happy for vikings fans i would i'd be pissed but i'd feel happy for the fans like so i think you get one team that you can be like i will never feel happy for them no matter what there's also a factor of if you're a if you're also a shitty team sometimes you just want a team to be worse than yours yeah and i think like browns and lions fans have had that going back at each other for a very long time where it's like uh as the song goes we're not at least we're not detroit if you're in cleveland right i met a i met a sect of of browns twitter that thinks the browns are a better organization overall than the bears and like I'm not I'm not saying the Bears are great organization but I met a sect of Browns Twitter that thinks the Browns are a better organization overall than the Bears. And I'm not saying the Bears are a great organization, but I met this sect of Twitter, and I don't know where these people exist.
But they were like, yeah, we're a better organization than you. They've never been to a Super Bowl.
With the exception of the Dallas Cowboys, I would say that I will root for any team that's been through the misery that the Detroit Lions or the Cleveland Browns historically have been through correct so happy for Lions fans the only thing other thing I had in this game is Nick Mullins is fun 400 yards and four interceptions is fun I don't care I know that it like that duck that he threw sucked but he when you sit down and you watch a football game if it's a backup quarterback you want to be entertained and he's one of those backup quarterbacks that will entertain you it will be a roller coaster it will be all over the place but he's fun and I like watching him play football yeah there's a lot of backup quarterbacks that are just kind of bummers right I would put east and stick right now in that kind of we'll see what east and stick becomes a lot of quarterbacks don't get the luxury of developing out of their just depressing phase into actually being fun while also being depressing. Nick Mullins, you can win a game with Nick Mullins.
He's infinitely more likely to lose you a game and do it in a hilarious manner, but he doesn't lack for confidence. And so I will watch a game with Nick Mullins in it for sure.
And how quickly – if you're a Detroit sports fan and you are presented with the trade, like that trade meme, I offer you one Lions division championship and then I receive the Detroit Pistons not winning a game for the rest of the year. How quickly do you think they make that trade? In a second.
Every time, right? In a second. Every single time.
This is like that. That's how good this Lions season is for Detroit fans where they can just be

like, oh, yeah, the Pistons suck, but I don't care. Yeah, no, it doesn't matter at all.
I mean, and the Pistons have won in their past. You know what I mean? They actually have some history, whereas the Lions, I know like pre-Super Bowl era, but yeah, fuck it.
I'm also an anonymous person who may be on this podcast right now has offered two tickets to Detroit Don and Superfan if the Lions do make it to the Super Bowl. It's awesome, Max.
Thank you. Yeah, huge for you, Max.
You want to match? I'll match. So we got to find two other Lions fans.
I'll match. You can't do that to me.

Of course I'm going to match.

How about your matches?

You just get them a flight.

That's fair.

How much do you think the tickets are going to cost?

The Lions are in the Super Bowl?

Yeah.

Like 10 grand each.

You know what?

I'll do it.

I'll do it.

I'll do it.

I'll dig deep.

It's a season.

It's for this year.

We're going to go year by year.

We're going to go year by year. This season.
This season. I'm not saying like extending it to infinity.
Yes. I will probably extend my personal one to infinity, which you can then decide to match or not.
I'm matching for this year. Yeah, this year.
This year. Much like my Colts tickets that you're matching this year, not next year.
Yeah. So we got to find two hardcore Detroit Lions fans out there.
Eminem, I'll buyts tickets that you're matching this year not next year um yeah so we got to find two hardcore Detroit Lions fans out there Eminem I'll buy I'll buy you tickets did you see Eminem's tweet yeah he said I did it and then he responded to himself saying we did it damn it still figure out how to use this thing we also had Calvin Johnson which I don't know if this was why he did this but it was so funny the Lions tweeted Lions tweeted congrats to Calvin Johnson in 2021 when he got in, when he got decided that he was being inducted into the hall of fame. And on, on Sunday, after the Lions clinched the NFC North, he responded and was like, thank you.
Like always love, always love Detroit. You know what I think he probably did? He, he doesn't tweet much, does he does he no he probably logged on to twitter and then went to his notifications and then saw that like a porn bot like that tweet from the lions and that's the most recent thing that he saw and uh like some some bot scraped it and then he was like oh fuck i forgot to respond to this one now it's a good time yes yes um Yes.
Okay. Next game.
Browns 36, Texans 22, Joe fucking Flacco and Amari Cooper. Holy shit.
That was incredible. Like Joe Flacco.
He, it was a perfect Joe Flacco game because it was the first pass was a 55 yard pass down the field. And like, Oh, Joe's in his bag today.
He even threw in a couple interceptions that were vintage Flacco interceptions the Browns I know this game like if you look at the the score 36 22 you think it was close it was never close they completely suffocated the Texans the Texans had a kick return and other than that I think the the yardage was like 400 to 100 going into the fourth quarter so it was in the in and the browns lost a kicker too they lost dustin hopkins on the kick return so they were going for it on every fourth down but joe flacco i mean that was i'm starting to think that the browns might go to the super bowl browns i'm i'm thinking that uh joe flacco might be better without a kicker burn the boats just like just throw football. Just throw the ball so high in the air that it comes down with a little bit of God on it.
And Amari Cooper's out there, and he's going to catch every single one that you throw that's a 50-50 ball. So Flacco is good.
He's playing good enough right now where the Browns can make a Super Bowl, for sure. In the last three games, he's had 1,053 yards, eight touchdowns, and looks good he had just he had two plays where i was like what the fuck is going on with joe flacco one where he like danced around the pocket flipped his hips a few times scrambled out and just threw a dart downfield and another one where he was getting wrapped up by two guys he was getting hit low wrapped around his knees and he was getting hit in his throwing arm and shoulder as he threw it.
And he threw like a 25-yard missile. And if you're throwing the ball like that, yes, you can win a Super Bowl if your defense continues to be the best in the league by far.
So I'm not saying the Browns are going to win the Super Bowl, but I am saying that if it's a Browns-Lions Super Bowl, we might have to look into getting some Browns fans some tickets.

Imagine what a great game. We're going to go broke this year.

We'll have to go.

We'll have to go with like we'll have to bring some Browns and Lions fans

and sit in between them because whoever loses will try to fight.

You know that.

You know what?

We'll get the drunk Browns fan. Yes.
Yes. But you know who i'm talking about yeah i know exactly what you're talking about there's there's thousands of people listening to this podcast right now we're like oh shit me when i said drunk browns fan they're like bernie kosar gonna send us yeah everyone knows who i'm talking about the drunk browns fan yes the joe flacco went from this is a cool story uh he's back this is fun to wait joe flacco's playing his balls off and the browns like with amari cooper it's it's crazy i have a name for you pft um does the name uh let me find it where is it i put it down oh matt will let's go ring a bell matt will let's go no okay that's who uh the cowboys drafted with the pick they got for amari cooper when they traded him for a fifth round yeah that's that might be i know there's contract there was contract like related because he had just signed i think it was a five-year 100 million or something and i get it but that's got to be one of the worst trades ever because amari cooper is is like perennially a top 10 15 wide receiver in the nfl yeah you saw it on the 50 50 balls too like if you just throw it up he will bring them down he's still still very very good he's 29 by the way another age that's crazy too everyone all these guys should be 35 like playing on the senior tour there should be a senior tour for the nfl yes um i actually was thinking to myself watching this game what do the browns do next year like can are they are they gonna bring flacco back how about the fact that the browns paid 200 million dollars to jashaun watson and in back-to-back years, Jacoby Brissett and Joe Flacco outplayed him? Yeah.
And, I mean, I don't know what kind of salary Flacco is going to command, but you have to think about it if you're the Browns. Because he wins the Super Bowl.
It's not like what he's doing. Yeah, you expect him.
If he gets banged up, I don't know if he can last an entire season. That's the thing thing because he is old um and he will get knocked around because he's not the most mobile guy in the world but if he's healthy as he is right now he is without a doubt a better option for your team than deshaun watson yes yes so uh joe flacco is the second browns quarterback to have 300 plus yards in three straight games who's the other one which this

could be any answer because there's so many browns quarterbacks kelly holcomb josh mccown in 2015 okay all right yeah that was i remember that that was quite a run um so you you mentioned the uh the kicker dustin hopkins yes pulling his hamstring on the kick return which i love it when there's a Skycam kick return that goes all the way. There's a sick run back.
If hypothetically Kareem Hunt was actually the best backup kicker you have on your team, there's no chance you send them out there to try one, right? You can't. Just for the discourse, you know what's going to happen to your guy.
I think it would be very funny. Yeah.
I think if you can maybe like if the tv gets blacked out so there's no cameras yeah yeah if there's if this game were played in like 1941 yeah then you could send them out there but that that would live on in infamy forever because that all i saw was like don't the browns have another kicker and i was like yeah there was a couple yeah there there was a couple guys warming up. It is so classic Browns this whole season.
They had a graphic where it was just all the guys that have been injured and all these really good players. They have like a pro bowl roster of injuries.
And then Dustin Hopkins gets hurt, and he's been a really good kicker for them. I think he's the only kicker who's perfect from 50 plus.
He's 8 for 8 from 50 plus this year. He's been very reliable.
So for the Browns, it's been their entire season where big win comes with, oh, we lost an important piece. You wouldn't think it'd be the kicker, but it actually is the kicker.
He's a good kicker, and the Browns have had kicker problems. I do think PFT, the NFL should make a rule where they just, maybe they spin a wheel before a game and just randomly a team isn't allowed to use their kicker because it makes the game so much fun being like, we have to go for it on every fourth down or is a linebacker going to kick it? A kicker getting hurt, no injuries fun, but a kicker getting hurt is actually really fun a punter getting hurt is fun too because then you have the kicker that goes out there and he tries to punt yeah like wait how why can't this guy whose job it is to kick a ball kick a ball yeah because they're two like very different styles but um i i've always said that the uh the player that scores the touchdown should have to kick the extra point how awesome would that be it's a great rule great rule.
It's a great rule. It'll be an awesome, awesome rule to watch.
As for the Texans, they need TJ Shroud really, really bad. He should win MVP because he looks so sad without him.
Very sad to watch. Unfortunately, Case Keenum couldn't get it done, so we were treated to Mills Mafia.
He's not as fun as I remember him being. No.
Well, he did time so he put up some points um and it was you had the rare case where the browns pulled all their starters and then had to put them back in because the the texans got an onside kick and stefanski was like oh fuck maybe i should have to put these guys back in keep your helmets close by guys yeah uh okay so next game texans basically have to i feel like week 18 is going to be their season they have to win week 18 against the colts it feels like that's going to be a win and get in game uh for next game falcons 29 colts 10 uh don't have a lot other than taylor heineke is so much better than desmond ritter and kyle pitts was uh scored a touchdown i think he has three touchdowns this year which is matches his first two years in the nfl i didn't even realize he was he's been in the nfl for three years because i feel like he's he's perennial rookie guy because he hasn't broken out i the only thing i had for this game pft was if the uh nfl was ever going to implement a bowl game strategy, this was the perfect game.

Like this game didn't, you know, it's two teams.

I know the Colts have had a good season.

They're still very much in the playoff hunt, but they had a bad game.

Falcons have been disappointing, and they look like they could win the NFC South a few, like a month ago, and they've just shit the bed.

If you just dress this game up and just said it was, you the vacuum cleaner bowl i would have been more tuned in i would have i would have so that's what we'll do the week before the playoffs we'll have the back of our head things for each team and then we'll also have our bowl game matchups yeah we'd like to see play out i think i think the falcons and maybe the chargers would be a good bowl game too. Yeah.
Just like which team can shock you with how they lose

in the most grotesque fashion.

But this game to me proved that somehow –

we are dumb sometimes when it comes to our NFL takes.

We have been correct about Heineke over Ritter this entire year

from week one.

And the Falcons would be winning that division

if Taylor Heineke had been starting the entire season.

Because he takes risks.

He would be so much better.

Yeah.

It tastes good. from week one.
And the Falcons would be winning that division if Taylor Heineke had been starting the entire season. Because he takes risks.
He would be so much better. Yeah.
He takes risks and he makes big throws. And he just – he like – the word game manager I would never use to describe Taylor Heineke because he's not.
He'll like – he'll fuck up a game in a good way or in a bad way. He's a game wrecker.
There we go. That's what he is.
He's a game wrecker. No telling which team he'll wreck it for,

but he's going to take some chances.

He's going to fuck around a little bit,

and he's going to give you a better chance to win overall

than Desmond Ritter, who just sucks.

Yeah, he's in the Nick Mullins category,

where if you tune in for a Taylor Heineke game,

you're going to have fun.

It might not go, like if you're rooting for Taylor Heineke

or you bet on Taylor Heineke, it might not go your way but you're gonna get like the the price of admission so yeah this game and the falcons defense like shut down the colts colts couldn't do anything it's a quick update on the 49ers ravens game trent williams is out with a groin kyle hamilton's in the blue injury tent and and Sam Darnold is in the game right now. So we picked

a good time to stop watching. Yeah.

This was a fucking beat down by the

Ravens. I didn't see this coming.

I took the Ravens,

but I thought it was going to be...

I took them with the points because I thought it was

going to be a close game.

I did not think this was going to be

33-12 with eight minutes left

and Sam Darnold in the game.

Yeah, hopefully Trent Williams is okay.

That would suck a lot.

Thank you. I did not think this was going to be 33-12 with eight minutes left and Sam Darnold in the game.
Yeah, hopefully Trent Williams is okay. That would suck a lot.
Max has got to be thinking one seed again. He's getting some thoughts.
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Jets commanders. Jets 30.
Commanders 28. that that's a farmer's dog right there that's a farmer's dog they love him okay next game jets commanders jets 30 commanders 28 i'll let you just go pft i have a question afterwards but um that was a great loss for you it was a fantastic loss for us the first half was a terrible loss for us the first half uh i don't want to bore people with hearing about this game any more than they have to because it after all was the the Washington commanders and the New York jets.
Um, but the first half was some of the worst football I've ever seen played on any level ever. Uh, I'm including like high school flag football peewee leagues where everybody's the same weight.
So you have like 60 pound offensive lineman running around. It was just, it was awful football at one point, um, on a punt return.
Uh, I believe it was Crowder that was returning the punt. He, he just threw the ball straight up in the air with his own hands.
I don't know what that was. That was a nice turnover for us.
It was depressing because Sam Howell stunk again. I don't want to do the thing where I'm saying Sam Howell's injured, but something's happened with Sam Howell in the last month where he's, he stinks's been awful in the last four games I don't know what got into him I don't know if it's the play calling if it's him as a quarterback if it's an injury that he's not talking about because he has gotten hit a lot but whatever it is it's not good because now in back-to-back weeks you have Jacoby Brissett coming into the second half and significantly outperforming Sam Howe as the starter.

I did. I'm going to do another film breakdown tomorrow on Ron Rivera on the sidelines because I watched with my mom and she was disgusted by it as well.

And I recorded every time Ron Rivera was on the sidelines, counting the number of words that he said in the game.

So it was a very, very bad game. It was bad with bad future implications until the very last second where the Jets made a field goal and won a meaningless game that will have significant impact on the upcoming draft.
Yes, significant. Significant impact.
Listen, all week long I wanted the commanders to lose the game, but I knew that once the whistle blew, once the game started, you only get 17 weeks a year to root for your favorite team. That's precious time that we get to spend watching our favorite football team compete, and it's impossible to root against them and to be rooting for the other team in those moments.
unless it's a very last second field goal and you bet your sweet ass I was rooting for that ball to go right down the middle. I really was.
And I'm very happy that it shook out the way that it did because not only did the Jets win, we got another loss. We jumped above them in the draft order.
And then for what happened later on that night, which we'll get to in a little bit with the Patriots so um yeah overall not good for uh for the Sam Howell it's not good for the Haliband the Haliband's down bad right now I feel like the Haliband's just been reduced to myself and Max and uh it's it's not looking prime I'm gonna put my faith much like you Big Cat I'm gonna put the commander's front office. Yeah.
Whatever they decide to do in the draft, I'm okay with it. Yep.
That was my only question. I mean, you can't ignore that Sam Howell, because the problem is for a while there, Sam Howell had a few flashes in games where he looked great.
And then he had some bad games where you can say, well, they do have one of the worst offensive lines um and the team sucks but Jacoby Brissett coming in in back-to-back games and significantly outplaying Sam Howell it's kind of hard because you can't be like well Jacoby Brissett's playing with a different team he's playing with the exact same team so it sucks I like Sam Howell but I think that's a good strategy just say whatever they want to do, they'll do. That's the only way you can do it because otherwise you just get caught up and emotions get in there.
You know what? Just let the front office decide. You know what? As I was watching it, I was thinking to myself, I can't imagine a more insignificant way to win a football game and a more counterproductive way to win a football game than going on the road against the Jets, having your starting quarterback that you're trying to develop into the long-term starter, get his confidence shattered by having a backup quarterback in mount a furious comeback and then winning a game that costs you a draft position.
That would have been the worst win of all time. It would have, it really would have been.
And it's, it's tough with Sam Howell because we play this game with quarterbacks all the time where if you show a couple flashes and you say well that's the guy he's in there somewhere and then you start to ignore and explain away all the other stuff now it's gotten to a point where it's like maybe the flashes were more of like an outlier I think Sam Howell will be in the NFL for a long time like I think he's done enough this year to prove that. I just don't know, especially if you're drafting third, it seems like the commanders would be smart to possibly take a quarterback.
Maybe his alma mater. Go back to UNC.
Yeah, Drake May. It would have been really bad.
It would have been bad if we won this game. But I don't know.
I go back to thinking about how Sam Howell played earlier in the season. It wasn't a fluke.
He was good. He made some incredible throws.
He was a very, very good quarterback for it felt like two months, two and a half months. And then whatever has happened in the last month has just been deadly to his career.
Jacoby Brissett gave him some good advice afterwards because he's like, hey, man, I've been here in this situation you're in. By the way, Jacoby Brissett seems like I'm going to nominate him for the PMT Good Guy of the Week award.
I think Joe Burrow won it a couple weeks ago. Jacoby Brissett should get it this week because he talked to him after the game and was like, hey, I've been in the same position.
You don't know it right now, but once you fast forward five years, you'll be in this league for a while. You'll look back on this and you'll be like, I'm glad I went through that because it made me a better person, made me a better professional.
But it sucks right now. Good guy, Jacoby Brissett, and any team would be lucky to have him.
Yeah, I think he could be a starter for some teams next year.

Like he is,

he's best dude ever.

He really is.

His name rocks.

His demeanor rocks.

He wears cowboy hats.

He rocks.

Jacoby Brissett officially rocks for the jets.

The only thing I had was Joe Douglas and Robert Salah are sticking around.

That was announced this week. So I guess cool.
Yeah, we had an all time you think moment where Robert Salah said, there's things that I wish I would have done differently with the backup quarterback situation this year. Oh, that's nice.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think I don't know about Robert Salah.

I do think Joe Douglas has done a good job of building a roster.

His mistake was he built a roster that only works with a 40-year-old quarterback

who then got injured.

You know what I mean?

That's really – like everything else, he's – like their defense is really good.

Obviously, their offensive line needs work.

They have good skill position players.

He's done a decent job drafting.

It's just you put it all into one basket, and then when you tear your achilles four plays in the season doesn't look so good yeah priest hall is really good really that's that's what i came away from this game thing is like that dude is he is legit yeah um okay just still legit next up uh seahawks titans seahawks gino game-winning drive Do you know that Gino leads the league in game winning drives this year with four? I did not know that. Yeah.
So Seahawks stay alive. A game that they should have won because they're playing Ryan Tannehill and a dead Titans team, but they still struggled and they needed the game winning drive.
The Seahawks are officially alive. It feels like they actually might be the team that gets in that seven spot,

which we've been talking about forever.

That seven spot in the NFC because the Vikings and the,

and the Packers have both died.

And so they're right now in the seventh spot.

I'm okay with it.

I'm okay with the,

the Seahawks are the,

they would check my box of,

I don't think they can win a playoff game,

but they have enough fun players that I, I I'm okay to watch another Seahawks, they would check my box of I don't think they can win a playoff game, but they have enough fun players that I'm okay to watch another Seahawks game.

So where are we at right now with the playoff projection?

Would it be the Seahawks against the Seahawks at the Eagles?

Yes.

Seahawks at the Eagles.

But the Eagles are way better than the Seahawks.

Definitely, yeah.

I mean, the Eagles, I don't see them losing in a bird matchup like that to Seattle.

They haven't played, have they?

No.

Well, they haven't played Geno Smith.

Oh, true, true, true, true.

Max is just shaking his head.

It's just the three of us here, and he's just muted, shaking his head.

Max, you scared of the Seahawks?

That would be a must-win.

Okay, all right. Your second consecutive must- scared of the Seahawks? That would be a must win.
That game. Okay, all right.
Your second consecutive must win against the Seahawks. You're 0-1 in must wins against Seattle this year.
Is that concerning? Maybe change up the strategy? Well, against Seattle, but today was a must win. The Eagles won this.
That's true. That's true.
Okay. Congratulations on beating Terod Taylor.
But, yeah. Good player.
If I were the Lions, I would rather play play against the seahawks which is crazy because the seahawks also beat the lions this year right yeah and they beat them last year too they they the seahawks kind of have their number but i would rather play just in terms of juju i'd rather play that game than having matt stafford come there although i've been thinking about it more like lions fans you you won the NFC North. They're not the same old Lions.
Just do the final boss. Just beat Matt Stafford.
Beat, you know, it's like we did the right thing. We're on the right path.
I heard from a lot of Lions fans saying that, yeah, that would be the last infinity stone in heartbreaking ways to lose. Yes.
I had a bunch of Lions fans just tweet. That's all I've been thinking about with no context.
I mean like two days later and I was just like, yep, I know what this is. The Ram should sign Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson for that game.
And it'd be on me to sue who was a Ram. Yeah.
Who was a Ram. Only other thing I had on this game.
So Ryan Tannehill will not be on the Titans next year.

And I was thinking about it, what I will miss most about Ryan Tannehill.

And he had this happen in this game.

Ryan Tannehill is the one quarterback who I think he,

this is a stat that I don't know if you can track,

but I think he leads the league in sacks where he is like fully cocked to throw and a guy comes right up the middle and he never sees him coming.

It's a Ryan Tannehill masterpiece where it's like he is literally ready to throw and there's just a guy just straight in his face that sacks him perfectly, wraps him up.

He had a beautiful one this week where I was like, yeah, I think I'm going to miss that about ryan tannehill yeah do you he's gonna be a backup somewhere next year right yeah he might even be a starter you think some team's gonna roll the dice on him i mean have you seen what's happened with quarterbacks this year yeah he'd be a great backup to have i just don't know if maybe we don't know maybe the book's still out on ryan tannehill yeah ready to take that next step there's more chapters to the ryan tannahill story oh sam darnold getting loose uh okay next up packers 33 panthers 30 this was this game drove me insane because i really need the panthers to lose out and the packers almost blew it and i was thinking about this here's another thing that people can tweet us about um I actually think Matt LaFleur sticking with Joe Barry has is actually was a great Christmas present for Packers fans and I was thinking about it when you're Christmas time you're around your family and it's like other than you know how long it took to get there and how's everyone doing how's your job oh you're gonna get settled down all this shit you run out of things to talk about i guarantee you in the state of wisconsin at every christmas gathering on christmas eve it was just a full discussion about how much they hate joe barry and that's a gift because you basically got something where everyone it's the reverse of like politics at the dinner table everyone's sitting around just being like joe barry's a fucking asshole we hate him he's the worst so in a weird way that's a beautiful gift the packers fans had on sunday yeah no you're right that's that's a nice thing to have where you have a built-in just a built-in conversation starter everyone's gonna agree about playing yeah yeah yeah you don't have to worry about like playing a board game you don't have to worry about like going around the room and saying the wrong thing to somebody. Yeah, Joe Barry sucks.
We can all agree on that. And he sucks so bad that Bryce Young, Bryce Young for a minute there, I was thinking he might be offensive player of the week until the very end of the game.
Like if he had taken them down and scored a touchdown on that last drive, it would have been DeV Mayfield and then Bryce Young that potentially could have been NFC offensive players of the week I was I meant to say that because you you're you're right and wrong about your Bryce Young you're you're dead right offensive player of the week you said that that he would have a chance to win it you were a little wrong like this is why you keep playing Bryce Young and not put in Andy Dalton because if you're a a Panthers fan, this is all you're hoping for. You don't have a draft pick.
You're just hoping that Bryce Young can have a couple games down the stretch that says he might be good. And this was one of those games.
Like, he looked good today. They might have had this one circled.
Just, like, keep Bryce in until he plays Joe Barry. Yeah.
Yeah. All we have to do is get him to Joe barry and then things will be fine joe barry made tommy devito probably a millionaire for life yeah think about it what a good guy he is he made families happy he's made made tommy devito happy he's made a lot of carolina panthers fans like less depressed for a week good for him i also um i think packers fans probably they get to do this and it sucks that they get to do this they basically the way this season is gone they had the moment where they after they beat the Chiefs I thought they were legitimately gonna go to the playoffs and they look like a really competent team all facets but they now can say like this was a successful rebuilding year because Jordan Love has looked good.
And if you can just get rid of Joe Barry,

you probably can fix a lot of your problems.

So they they're in that,

that camp of like bad season,

but kind of a good season,

which pisses me off because it's bullshit that they get that.

But that is probably how they're thinking.

Well,

they get to look at the Detroit lions here and be like,

listen,

this was the year the Detroit lions won.

And then things are going to go back to normal for us next year. That was an insult.
Packers fans will take that as an insult. Why? To be like, we're on the Detroit Lions path.
Yeah. How things have changed.
I love it. The Panthers, I'm worried they might win another game.
So they play against the Jaguars. Who are the walking dead.

The Jaguars, they could lose that game.

Who else do the Panthers play?

I think they might have Falcons,

who hopefully will be playing for something.

But I really, really need the Panthers.

Oh, Bucs.

Bucs.

If the Bucs have it, the NFC South, they might.

Fuck.

I don't think the Bucs are in a position to take their foot off the gas. They might have the – I don't know.
They might have the NFC South wrapped up. Yeah, you've got to keep it rolling, though.
You can't afford to take a week off if you're the Bucs. If you win that division, you can't back your way into the playoffs.
This would break me if the Panthers won. You've backed your way into the playoffs all season long.
You have to keep your guys going. It would break me.
It would break me if the Panthers backed your way into the playoffs all season long you have to keep your guys going it would break me it would break me if the panthers found a way to win another game i gotta look at the cardinals cardinals play the eagles and the seahawks maybe the seahawks will already be in it will break me it will break me this game almost broke me because the packers winning this game or losing this game would have been such a fucked up thing for me where i'm like i was i was very clear going into sunday i was like i'm not rooting for the packers i'm rooting for the panthers to lose so thankfully the panthers lost but that that this game almost broke me it put me through a lot a lot yeah hand up i didn't watch a single snap of this game until the very end of it i watched the highlights i watched all the cut-ups and um but had no idea about the game flow whatsoever. I was just looking up at the end of the game and I was like, how is this game this close? Yeah, they were killing them and it just happened out of nowhere.
Okay, speaking of the Jags and the dead corpse Jags, Bucks 30, Jags 12, Baker Mayfield, he's awesome's playing i'm happy for baker he's playing incredible ball uh 664 yards six touchdowns zero interceptions last two weeks which are basically must-win games given the playoff uh setup and the jags well i have a quote for you pft um this is an anonymous quote I wrong about this Jaguars team. They are bad.
The quarterback is not playing well at all. They have major issues.
Who is the moron that thought they could be a Super Bowl team? Is that Uncle Chaps or Pete Prisco? That is Pete Prisco. Pete Prisco is finally copped to the fact that he had the Jags in the Super Bowl.
Well, the schedule changed. The Bucs are better than he thought the Bucs were going to be.
And the Jags are worse. There's no way for him to do that.
And the Jags are worse. So if you were to go back with this Jags schedule right now and do the entire year all over again, you would end up in this exact same position right now.
So Pete didn't have the benefit of traveling to the future and seeing what the Jags would look like and how Trevor Lawrence would look and how funny that picture of Trevor Lawrence getting hit would be. Have you seen that picture? Yeah.
Yeah. Where it looks like he's melting.
It looks like a Renaissance painting of a man looking at hell. It looks like a Chernobyl survivor in the picture.
It's one of the fun. He doesn't look human.
It's the funniest picture of the year so far, I think. It's a future coffee meme because I saw it and I was like, have to do a santa one for christmas day but like when i saw that i was like jesus christ and he's trevor lawrence i know that he's getting shit on a lot right now um people are doing the blind resumes we were we were on that a week ago um he is very very injured i think he's gotten an injury in every single game for the last month this week was what a shoulder yeah and i i doubt and I doubt that he's fully healthy from the knee at the start of the season.
He started to get healthier, and then when he had that ankle that got him all fucked up, that doesn't heal overnight. And a concussion mixed in.
Yeah, so he's banged up. He's the most injured starting quarterback that's still playing right now, I would say.
Yeah. And Baker, on the other hand, is as good.
I think Baker Mayfield is as good as he's ever been. Yeah.
Like even going back to when he was playing for the Browns. I think right now this Baker is as good as Baker's ever played football.
Yeah, it's fun to watch. And the Bucs, I don't think they're going to – well, I mean, we're watching the Niners get killed,

although they're about to maybe make it a one-score game.

I don't know.

This NFL season is so crazy.

Can you definitively say?

Are there any teams that you definitively would say

have no chance of getting to the conference championship game

that are currently in the playoffs?

The Jaguars. The Jaguars.
You're right. You're the Jaguars and the Colts, but the Colts will maybe be replaced.
Yeah. So it's, it's the Jaguars and the Colts and in the NFC, I don't think you can say I, there's not one team that I would be like, I'd put my life on them not getting to the least the conference championship game.
I'm not, I'm like I'd bet on the Bucs or the Seahawks or the Rams. Yeah, I was going to say Seahawks would be the other team.
But it's like winning two games with the way this NFL season's gone. It's not the craziest.
But the Seahawks would have to beat the Eagles in the first round of the playoffs. And that's not happening.
That's true. So I think it's the Seahawks and the Bucs would be my first two.

Like, okay, we know the books out there on the Cowboys. Would you consider the Bucs to be a good team? Oh, no.
Because the Cowboys, they're not a good team? No, they're – okay, they're a good team, relatively speaking. In this year's NFL, they're a good team.
So the Cowboysboys in your internal algorithm, the Cowboys would be able to go on the road and beat them in Tampa Bay. Yes.
We'll get to the Cowboys game, but yes. Okay.
Yes. I do think they could do that.
The other thing I had from this game is it's time to start putting more respect on Mike Evans name. So So Mike Evans, I alluded to it, he's 30 years old.
Mike Evans scored two touchdowns on Sunday. So he is now one of five players to have five-plus seasons with 12 or more reception touchdowns.
Touchdown receptions, I don't know why I said it like that. The list is Jerry Rice, Tio, Randy Moss, Marvin Harrison, and Mike Evans.
Pretty crazy company. I also looked at it.
So going back to him being 30 years old, let's just say Mike Evans plays for five more years. Not crazy, right? Like five more years.
He and I, I'm even saying, let's say he starts to tail off. So he's been in the league for 10 years.
He's had a thousand yards every single year, every single year. He's been in the NFL.
He's had a thousand years, thousand yards. So let's just say he plays five more years and goes 750 yards, five touchdowns every single one of those years.
So that's a big drop off from Mike Evans. What we've seen Mike Evans would be seventh all time in receiving yards and seventh all timetime in touchdowns and the only other guys that would be top seven with him in both those categories are Jerry Rice, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, and T.O.
When you say those four names you don't think Mike Evans belongs but Mike Evans belongs he belongs in that group it's crazy so put more respect on Mike Evans and he doesn't look like he's now. No, he's he doesn't look like he's lost a step.
Hands are still good as ever still able to out jump anybody. So, yeah, I wouldn't be shocked to see him continuing on for the next five years, having more than 750 a season.
But, yeah, remember the start of the year when everybody was like, they should trade Mike Evans. Yeah.
Can we get Mike Evans on a better team with somebody that can get him the ball? He had that team.

He had that team the entire time.

Like what,

what team do you think he would have been more successful on that was in the

hunt for Mike Evans at the time?

Maybe the chiefs.

Yeah.

If he was on the,

if he was on the chiefs,

that would probably be pretty good.

That would be really good.

But it's yeah.

Mike Evans is a first ballot hall of famer.

And I'll just say the names again.

If he,

if he finishes top seven in both,

he would be in the list with Jerry Rice, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, and Tio. I mean, those are what the, the three of the best receivers of all time.
And you could make a case for Larry Fitzgerald, like probably like three of the top seven receivers of all time. Yeah.
It's crazy though. He's Mike Evans is, it should be in that list and he is one of, he will go down as one of the best receivers of all time yeah it's crazy though he's mike evans is it should be in that list and he is one of he will go down as one of the best receivers of all time which is crazy because it maybe it's because he played for the bucks like if mike evans played for not to not to not to get like uh you know media bias and everything but if mike evans played for the cowboys or the giants we'd probably be respecting him more but i'm here right now saying we need to respect mike evans more mike evans was so good that he got johnny manziel drafted in the first round think about that think about think about that think about that it's crazy it's crazy so um yeah the jags though they're dead they're dead i feel bad for our friend chaps i just go back to that monday night game before the beng, and he was walking around with his chest puffed out, thinking that he was the cock of the walk.
And they have not won a game since. Yeah, was this four in a row? Four losses in a row.
Four losses in a row. They look like worse and worse and worse every single game.
This was the worst one. Yeah.
You can forgive them losing to the last one was the Ravens can you can look past that a little bit um but to get your teeth kicked in by the bucks not not looking promising i'm i'm very much looking forward to betting on the browns if they play against the jags in the first round of the playoffs yes yes i would agree with that um we've seen that uh okay next game bears cardinals bears 27 cardinals 16 We can do this quickly. Uh, happy for Justin Fields, the bears.
This is why the Browns loss hurts even more because I thought they were going to be able to beat the Cardinals. I think they're going to be able to eat the Falcons next week.
It hurts that much more because they would have actually been playing for something in week 18. Uh, but yeah, I'm happy for Justin Fields.
Like that was, he was, you know, high-fiving everyone, all the the fans after I know he's got one more home game who knows what's going to happen in the future but he played well he's running that run where he looked back and was just like no one can touch me and he also had no DJ Moore was got hurt in like the first play and he came back in but he was banged up Cole Komet. Like I know the interception, Justin Fields played well and the Bears defense continue to play well, made stops when they need to.
And that's all I got for this game. Yeah.
If they do bring him back next season, I just don't want them to do exactly what they did this season and do it again and be like, we got to protect them. We got to teach them how to be a pocket passer.
We got put in this new offense let justin fields be justin let him roam free he's a he's a free range quarterback so i've heard he's not meant to be cooped up yeah so i've heard this talked about i think i think bill simmons threw this out there i think and i've seen people tweet me this and um our good friend tom for nelly has thrown this out there as well to me. Justin Herbert for the number one pick would be the greatest thing in my life.
And I thought about it some more. So you got to get the number one pick.
But what do we know about the Chargers? The Chargers are in cap hell. They need a full reset for their entire team.
You know that owner cares about getting fans in that stadium. If they can draft Caleb Williams, maybe even get Lincoln Riley to be his coach, and then give the Bears Justin Herbert, and Justin Herbert immediately becomes the best Bears quarterback of all time without even throwing a pass, I would do that in a second.
I don't know if the Chargers would ever entertain it, but I would do that in a second, and't know if i don't know if the charges would ever entertain it but i would do that in a second and i've like my mind has wandered to that and uh yeah i'm get i get i get a little i get a little rocked up when i think about it we're doing fan fiction right now yeah no i don't know you don't even have to you don't even have to learn a new name yeah just get a new justin that could work just for

the fact that the chargers don't like paying people right and so having like a massive contract on the books like that it's like you know i'd rather not be writing these checks every month or somebody else that's wait they're going to write the checks and i'm going to get the number one overall pick and he's pretty good and he's a usc guy who's won a heisman at usc and you're trying to win fans in the LA area.

Like that,

come on.

That's not crazy.

Right. a USC guy who's won a Heisman at USC and you're trying to win fans in the LA area like that come on that's not crazy right no I mean I think that would be that would be good for you because Justin Herbert's a fucking stud should be the greatest thing ever kind of social media quarterback but a pretty good quarterback I would go finding every Justin Herbert hater and just like skull fucking them on the daily it It'd be crazy.
You would become a, you'd become a big social media guy. Yeah.
Social media. Yeah.
Going nuts. Yeah.
He, I mean, any team would pro most teams would be lucky to have Justin Herbert. That's not, it's not a crazy sounding trade.
I wouldn't be opposed to it if I were you. And he's 25.
He's three years younger than Leonard Fournette that's crazy if the Bears got Justin Herbert for the number one pick all right you know I'm gonna stop myself I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna say it were you gonna suck a dick no I was gonna say I think the Bears gonna win a Super Bowl the next three years okay this is good this is finn i let me have these like my mind wanders and it's been wandering to these happy places that's beautiful out and it's just although i don't know if he could play in the cold he is a west coast kid he's there i just brought myself back down yeah i brought myself back down to earth but this is what people that root for awesome teams don't understand is in the offseason when we when we get to indulge ourselves in these fan fictions like lamar jackson is going to sign with the commanders or uh bill belichick is going to be our next head coach when we just like dive into fantasy land and completely reject reality that's so much fun because we get to we get to play through all the scenarios in our head. We're like, oh, we could win three, four Super Bowls.
So we get that same feeling of winning Super Bowl in our spank bank, which my spank bank is robust right now. It's overflowing.
Whereas teams that actually have legitimate contenders like Max are miserable all the time because they have to deal with the fear of losing and the what ifs. And every team except for one doesn't win a Super Bowl then they get upset and then meanwhile we're just over here basically getting high on our own supply like hot boxing ourselves with NFL fantasies that'll never happen which I actually think is way more fun than actually winning a Super Bowl way more I've played it out in my head trade the number one pick for Justin Arbert you got cap space.
You take a lineman with your other first round pick, which is going to be somewhere in like the 8 to 12 range. And then every other pick after that, you just get wide receivers.
And you just get as many wide receivers as possible. Defense is set.
You got DJ Moore. You got Cole Komet.
Just get as many wide receivers as you can get. Probably trade Justin Fields for a second or third rounder.
Maybe the Falcons. That would be a perfect.
That's the thing is like, I, I am not a Justin Fields hater. I want him to succeed.
But if you had that chance of Justin Herbert, it'd be like, no one would even blink. Like it just, you have to do it.
So I would want, I'd, I want to find a nice rehoming situation for Justin Fields. And then we're off and running.
I should have said this all out loud. Okay, what if you trade him to the Falcons and then you get Drake London? Perfect.
And Kyle Pitts. I've got to stop.
Kyle Pitts isn't doing anything. Listen, I have to stop, but just know that this is where my happiness comes from, is these type of I'm doing.
And Jim Harbaugh wants to coach. Jim Harbaugh's contract.
I think he, if he signs that new contract, he can't coach in the NFL next year. Yeah.
You should, that'll be the ultimate test of loyalty to Shane. He does the graphics and the Photoshop for us.
He's a diehard Chargers fan. I know.
See if he'll make you a Justin Herbert Bears Photoshop. He won't.
He'll fuck it up. Just to look at.
I need the Cardinals to win another game, though. That was in terms of like games that you were talking about, the commanders, how it would have been a very bad win.
This would have been a very good loss for the Bears because the cardinals would have it would have basically made the panthers the number one pick and the bears could have done that and i know guys are going to fight like ibrafus has these guys playing hard uh but yeah in terms of games that you would have liked to maybe lose this was one of them i still think you're the number one pick is going to be yours i wouldn't i wouldn't fret too hard about that just don't i'm knocking on wood uh okay let's take a break and then we'll talk uh dolphins cowboys which got a lot to talk about and then we'll wrap up with the monday games before we get back to the rest of the games are brought to you by our great friends over at game time you shouldn't have to worry when you're buying tickets to your next big event if it it's a music festival, a show, sporting event, got college football coming up, going to the college football playoffs. If you're going to an NFL game, if you're going to an NHL game, hockey is in full swing right now.
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Dolphins, Cowboys, Dolphins, 22 Cowboys, 20,

the narrative bowl, PFT, uh, the Dolphins beat a good team.

The Cowboys can't win on the road so we could do the hot takes but i actually have a more reason take with for you i want you to maybe assess it oh you want to do hot takes first yeah so here's my thing is the cowboys are frauds frauds um but the dolphins are also frauds because all they prove that they is that they can fraud. And they just prove they're good at kicking field goals.
Yeah. So we didn't learn anything from this game whatsoever.
I take back everything we said on Friday. They were going to take the winners, say that they could win the Super Bowl, and the losers say they're out.
I think both teams are out. So the Dolphins proved to me once and for all fraudulent.
They'll either be the one seed, the two seed, or six seed depending on how the last couple games of the season go because if you do the close your eyes dolphins ravens who you got big cat ravens dolphins bills last week of the season who you got bills well it depends on how hot it is yep okay so we'll have to look ahead at the weather on that. But yeah, no, I just, I just love the fact that, that our, our own fraud logic has gotten so circular that we can now spin ourselves into saying that dolphins actually stink because they beat a shitty team.
I actually think the Cowboys are under 500 team on the road. Yeah.
So I don't know if this was your more reason take, but my actual take watching this game was that these were two good teams that played each other very competitively and tried very hard to minimize mistakes and it was going to be a close game no matter what and the dolphins proved that they can win down the stretch and that was a great last drive from tua to end the game um i think that it actually proved in a weird way that they're both good teams yes so that's my reason take uh dax drive to to take the lead was like this is what you want out of dak big moment on the road nothing's really looking easy like you're not the front runner cowboys right now that was a big boy drive by dak um and Dolphins defense, like the pressure they got.

They Van Ginkle Badger.

He was all over the place.

Chubb really, really good.

We all knew that.

Yeah, I came away being like both these teams are going to be very tough outs in the playoffs and especially for the Cowboys. So the Dolphins get a lot of credit because this was the game they needed.

They needed to win a game against a team that is considered a very good team

and do it with defense.

I think it was basically both these teams are kind of front runners

where when they kill someone, it looks like they're the best team on earth.

When they get into the slog, when they get into this,

this felt like a playoff game in the fact that it wasn't perfect,

but it was like big moments, who can convert on third down, all these things.

So the Dolphins definitely – when they get into this room this felt like a playoff game in the fact that it wasn't perfect but it was like big moments who can convert on third down all these things so i the dolphins definitely impressed me and i i've i've flipped my narrative on the dolphins like a month ago because i thought vic fangio will just figure it out and i i do think that they're going to be like they're one of those teams that if they're in the super bowl i wouldn't be shocked no no way in the AFC would I be shocked like they they have everything and if it's clicking they can beat anyone uh but the Cowboys the Cowboys it's it's funny how the narratives work in the fact that if uh the Cowboys had just not handed the ball to a fullback who has four career NFL rushes on the goal line let's not Let's put some respect on Hunter Lepke's name,

the guy that had a storied career.

I understand.

A low-man trophy winner.

If they don't do that, the Cowboys probably win that game and the whole narrative is flipped there.

And more than that, it really feels like the Cowboys could use

a guy who can run between the tackles,

who can get those hard yards,

who can maybe score big touchdowns.

Maybe a guy who can run between the tackles who can get those hard yards who can maybe score big touchdowns maybe a guy who uh wears a helmet that's so customized that he looks like a car yeah maybe a guy who scored a touchdown on uh like two hours after this game on sunday night football the seven point dogs that tony pollard run where he just was like i i'm fast. I could probably get to the pylon.

No, you know what?

I'm going to just cut it inside and just get bodied by a linebacker.

Like, I don't feel bad for Cowboys fans, but they win that game if they have a Z. I do believe that.

Like, they're missing that part of their – they have struggled in the red zone all year,

and Tony Pollard around the goal line has been a disaster.

And if they have Z.

I think they win that game.

Thank you. So they have struggled in the red zone all year, and Tony Pollard around the goal line has been a disaster.
And if they have Zeke Elliott, I think they win that game. If you're a Cowboys fan, you have a legitimate ref excuse too because it did seem like they missed a lot of calls on holding, on Mike Parsons.
Yeah, so you have a legitimate reason where you can be like, oh, we would have won this game if the refs didn't fuck us. But then on the other hand, the refs kind of also fucked the Dolphins on a couple calls.
So there was one call in particular where they called roughing the passer. And I forget, was it Williams that landed on Dak? And he tried to pick his hands up in midair and move in midair.
But unfortunately, the NFL rule book and Isaac Newton's second law of motion, they kind of run into conflict on how you distribute force. So ideally, the NFL would like the defensive tackle to levitate in midair off the quarterback as you're falling through on your hit.
Unfortunately, it's impossible to do that due to physics. And that was, that was one of those calls where I, I was watching it with some people that I'll put it this way.
They've been watching football for a while. I thought that there was a good chance that TV was going to get turned off.
Yeah. Like we don't watch the football in this room.
Yeah, exactly. Put flags and skirts and let's just play powder puff instead.

That would have been a valid excuse for the Dolphins fans too.

But I do think that Micah Parsons, he probably missed out on like three or four holding calls on that game. But that's, yeah, I mean, that was, it felt like one of those coin flip games where I went in trying to say, we called it the fraud bowl.

I wanted to have a definitive answer on both these teams and be like, you know, Oh, dolphins beat them by 20 dolphins are, you know, for real, the Cowboys, you know, win by 30 cow, like dolphins are frauds. I walked away just being like, both these teams are really good and they're going to be very tough outs.
And so, yeah, it, it sucks when you want a narrative to go one way.

I think we both came to the same conclusion.

That was a hard-fought game, a coin flip game,

that one play goes a different way and it's a different result.

And Tua, though, that drive that he did have to get the field goal,

that was a big-boy drive.

That was a big-boy drive against a tough pass rush,

making the big throws. And Jason Sanders, what, he hit 350 yarders? So, yeah, it sucks.
I'm mad at ourselves, PFT, that we actually have to put the narratives aside and be like, both these teams are really good. But here's what we can do, though, is if the Dolphins do lose their next two games, then we can say games then we can say well the dolphins are frauds and also the cowboys are frauds too because they lost to these dolphins who now we know stink yeah true true so let's put the narrative on pause okay it's in it's like magic eight ball uh answer not so clear ask again yeah that's what we're going we're going to just roll it over into this week and then if the if the lions go down and shit pump the cowboys and the dolphins lose to the ravens then we can be like okay so now we understand that what we saw last week was just two mid teams playing each other very evenly yes yeah exactly exactly um mike mccarthy by the way we're getting into fat dumb mike mcc zone.
He looks fat and dumb a few times this game where he's just so his brain doesn't work fast enough to compute what's happening. So I'm happy because it was wet when he gets when he gets wet, he gets fatter.
He was wet. He was wet.
But yeah, that was that was that was a great game. I mean, it wasn't a great played game.
It wasn't like fireworks, but it was a tough, hard-fought game that had big moments and big drops. You know how we've said we used to have Warren Sharp on the show, and our theory was that the ball travels farther at night.
Just something about watching a ball fly through the air at night. Football looks different if it's a nighttime game, if it's a primetime game.
Or I in this case it was it was after the sun went down but uh mike mccarthy his his face does look fatter at night yeah it's indisputable it does his eyes his eyes get further apart the later on in the day that it gets and then he goes to sleep and all the swelling goes down and everything kind of compresses again but later on in the afternoon he starts to get almost like an owl face where it's just like it's out to here. And he has 180-degree vision.
Yeah. Mike McCarthy dump season is rapidly approaching.
Anything else on this game? Yeah, Al Kingold needs to stop hurtling people. Yes, Al Kingold does need to do that.
Dolphins should always wear the throwbacks. And those end zones are the throwbacks and those end zones are cool it will be cool to see a dolphins like uh playoff game i mean the heat as always i know that it's not that hot in miami right now but i feel like everyone is just always gassed in these games which adds kind of a fun wrinkle yeah it's cool to see that like december january i would like to make one change to the dolphin's uniform though i love the throwbacks throwbacks are awesome the color scheme's great i like the helmet i wish that um the dolphin that's on the helmet that's wearing a helmet i wish that helmet had another dolphin on it oh so instead of an action yeah it's that that dolphin's helmet needs to have it it has it's a dolphin wearing a helmet i think the helmet says M.
Yeah. That dolphin's helmet needs to have...
It's a dolphin wearing a helmet,

and I think the helmet says M on it.

I think.

I want that dolphin to be wearing a helmet

that has a picture of a dolphin wearing a helmet on it.

I agree.

I concur.

Yeah, no, that never happened.

Yeah, that old dolphins with the M,

that logo rocks.

They should never have changed it. We should really just – I wish we had the power to just be like, you guys, stop.
This is your best logo. Don't fuck with it.
You don't have to change it just to change it. Right.
I know you want to sell more shit, but it's not good. You're going to sell a bunch of crappy shit.
Right. Okay.ay night football hank's not here patriots 26 broncos 23 but we do have pft patriots fan big win for your boys yeah yeah listen do your job uh they hate us because they ain't us no one thought that we're going to be able to pull this win out but that's bill belichick he's the best coach in the history of the nfl for a reason and uh it turns out that if you put a scenario in front of Bill Belichick where maybe on his way out the door, he might be able to give a big middle finger and fuck over a draft pick for your team on the way out.
He's going to do everything that he possibly can to win a game. So yeah, credit to my Patriots.
The Patriot way is alive and well. I think we're just now seeing guys start to buy in.
So who maybe even running back next year with bailey zappy and bill we'll see what's going to happen but

it felt like a vintage patriots night um playing against the broncos remind me of some of those

old peyton brady matchups that we all love so so very deeply so it was a uh it was a great game

for my pats very happy to see them pull out this w very very meaningful win to me personally as a Speaker 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 be the toughest out. I don't know if that's true, but they would not be a team.
Their defense is good. And Bailey Zappi played well.
And the Broncos luck just ran out. we were we've been talking about it I know Broncos fans that's got to suck because it's season turned around and you're like this is it's been bad for the Broncos for since Peyton left and but there's their luck just ran out like even even the fact that they got Bailey's happy they they they get him to fumble on the first play from scrimmage and they can't score a touchdown from like the six yard line and and then you have one of the worst kickoff returns i've ever seen by the broncos where he just like threw the ball backwards their luck has run out i also remember last year when nathaniel hackett was struggling with the clock and they had to bring in that dude to help him does Sean Payton need that dude I don't know I don't know what's going on Sean Payton said he seems like he's he's just angry all the time that end of game sequence was so clearly the Patriots being like we're playing for overtime was, I think 50 seconds left and they ran the ball, I think twice.

And then they got a big pass and they're like, all right, fuck it.

We'll do it.

But Sean Payton called two timeouts.

I know, I guess you're trying to get the ball back with like 30 seconds left,

but that's a situation where it's like, if they're playing for overtime,

just let's go to overtime.

Right.

Cause it worked so poorly against him where the Patriots get one big play and they're like, all right, fuck it. I guess we'll go win this game now.
I kind of agree with Sean Payton on that one because I didn't see the Patriots even trying to get down the field. Right, but just let them go.
Let it go to overtime because if you call a timeout and you give them a chance to maybe get a first down, then they're going to flip it and be like, all right, fine. We're going to go score a first down.
There was not enough time left. If you use all your timeouts, you're going to get the ball back.
If the Patriots have to punt with, I don't know, 40 seconds left, no timeouts, and with – I don't know. I feel like you just – if someone's in that situation saying let's go to overtime you just go to overtime instead of that to me that to me to to maybe take a shot that to me was like a coin toss one where it's like i could i could see the justification either way if a coach wanted to try to extend the game or if they wanted to just like okay you can you can just run it out because like on one hand you'd be like oh this coach is a is a pussy for not using his timeouts.
That was close enough where I didn't really have a problem either way. The big impact of this game was on the draft pick, though.
So by winning this game, the commanders take the Patriots spot in the draft. Many people are speculating Bill Belichick leaving the Patriots at the end of the season,

possibly going to the Commanders, giving them a gift.

Now, in the very last game of the season, it's going to be the Patriots against the Jets.

And if hypothetically Bill Belichick had it in his mind that this would be a very beneficial game, because I think the way it's going to shake out with tiebreakers, I think going into that last week,

I think the Patriots might overtake the commanders in the draft pick because of strength of schedule. I think that if they have that matchup and if Belichick is going to the commanders, Belichick will figure out a way to beat the New York jets.
One last time. Well, he hates the jets.
So he hates the Jets. And then give the Patriots a worse pick, give his potential new team a better pick.
That's my fan fiction world that I'm living in right now. And I actually think that it might come true.
And that to me will be my Super Bowl. I like it.
I'm in for it. Bros got to support each other's fan fiction more.
Listen, you know me. I've been a big supporter of everything that's been going on new England from the Patriots dynasty to the lighthouse.

So I, I'm not going to give up on bill yet.

I think bill can beat the jets one last time.

Okay.

Going to today.

Raiders 20 chiefs, 14.

Chiefs are bad.

The chiefs are so bad

that Aiden O'Connell

last completed pass

in this game was with

two minutes and one second left

in the first quarter.

It's the longest, Stathol had this, it's the longest

to end a game without a completed

pass for a winning team since at least

1999. Achilles Smith

had week 8-2000 he had 24 seconds left in the first quarter. He went 2-for-9 in the game.
Aiden O'Connell finished the game after that completed pass with two minutes left in the first quarter. 0-for-10, zero yards with four neals over those final three quarters.
That's what just beat the Kansas City Chiefs. The Raiders' was awesome Zamir White iced the game away who's you know the backup to Jacobs who's been playing well the Chiefs are in trouble Chiefs are in trouble they're bad they're they're in they're in big trouble that defense doesn't look so great if if you're getting gashed a little bit in the running game and the offense the offense wasn't very good either oh so bad stinks there were so many plays where my homes would get the ball he dropped back about seven yards and then he'd like shuffle up into the line of scrimmage almost get sacked by like a defensive tackle and then run to the outside and then wait for what seemed like six seconds no receivers open downfield and then he just have to either run the ball out of bounds or throw it out of bounds it's it seems like there's something significant broken with the chief's offense especially their defense needs to be better but the offense looks like this is not a scenario where you can flip a switch and figure things out no no and it's the difference is not having eric b enemy having matt nagy having everyone drop balls, including Travis Kelsey, who I did see Taylor Swift show up to the game with Santa Claus, which I'm sure there were kids watching, and they're like, wait, why is Santa Claus at a Chiefs game? I thought he delivered all the presents last night.
Why is he awake right now? Shouldn't he be resting? Taylor Swift probably ruined Santa Claus for thousands and thousands of children across America today. So I tweeted that out because my four-year-old son Chris walked in and he saw Santa Claus in the box with Taylor Swift.
Santa was in her box. And he said, Dad, we just opened presents.
And you said, Santa just dropped these off. How come he's on TV right now? I was like, I don't know what to tell you, Chris.
I've been lying to you your entire life. And now he's packing up his bags.
He's going to move out. So that sucks as a parent.
You never want to see that. I just got discovered to be living a massive, massive lie.
And you're right. It's like, when is enough enough? How? How many, how many families, how many, how many homes does she need to break up? And, and parents and children, does she need to drive apart before we say, okay, we've, we've seen enough Ms.
Swift. And then up in the box, I don't know if you saw this big cat, she said, Oh my God.
Oh no. On Christmas.
And I'm like, Jesus Christ, you can't say that. You can't take the Lord's name in vain on Christmasmas day like that and this is the role model that we're looking at now and it's it's it's sad to see that this is what the nfl has become it's disgusting she ruined uh christmas for all these children and i know swifties they have their playbook they'll call us misogynistic might i remind you i have a daughter my dog right here female my wife is also female

so how can i be misogynistic when i have three females living in my house and it is my favorite

some of my favorite favorite parents are women and big cat i love your bitch she's right behind

you on the couch right here yeah see that's right there that's your bitch i fucking love my bitch

Yeah, no, we got bitches for days. So don't bring that to me, okay? Don't.
And I will say this about Travis. Oh, well, one more thing about Ms.
Swift and her, her appearance at the game. It's a big rules for me, not for the situation, I guess, because she walked in with Santa and who knows who Santa was being played by, but Santa Claus brought in his sack and who knows, you know, he might've had alcohol or narcotics in there.
I don't know. I didn't see what was inside because it was an opaque sack.
And anyone that's ever been to an NFL game knows that if you want to go to a game, you have to carry your belongings in a clear plastic bag that must fit into a certain surface area. So apparently Taylor Swift doesn't have to abide by those same rules as the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of other normal NFL fans have to abide by when we go to games.
So any good, any normal person would have had to check that bag at the door, but not Miss Swift. She's too good for that.
So it's disgusting. She's ruining America.
The world the world the world the world and so she's i i'd say she already has ruined the world i it's not ruining anymore it fine planet we used to have here yeah and so i i wait the response that we'll undoubtedly get um just know that you can't hurt me i'm in my basement right now so i'm I'm, I'm podcasting from my basement. My life's going well.
So nice try. Yeah.
Listen, I still live with my mom. You know who else lived with his mom? Jesus Christ.
All right. So, uh, clip that max.
Um, I do have, uh, an important announcement, uh, after, um, the last few days, uh, my, my third son is now number one. My daughter's been dumped.
She's gone to two. So I just wanted to get that off.
We'll keep that out of the clip. But yeah, the new power rankings in my house is the six-month-old is number one, daughter number two, eldest son number three.
That's just what it is right now. The situation remains fluid, I guess.
So guess so when someone asked me i'm just gonna have to answer honestly until the next rankings come out that's just how it's the computer yeah well i mean the baby's like he's he's at a point where he's like smiling and laughing and everything's funny and you can tickle him it's like and he's not having like two and a half year old meltdowns so so what you're saying is your daughter should smile more. Yeah, probably.
Okay. Laugh more.
Okay. Oh, last thing on this game.
Jack Jones. That was awesome.
So he had to pick six and Grinch. He Grinched.
Yeah, he put a he tried to give it to a kid and then took it away, which I love. It's a fuck that like he yeah he he said on twitter that was not true oh there was actually an adult that was trying to steal it from the kid and he was taking it back from the adult i don't want to hear that you're no better than taylor swift right now you just ruined that for us you know what he said was so funny you have to see the tweet all right you're being a Grinch right now.
You're being a Grinch by not letting us believe that he was being a Grinch. No, because I didn't snatch the ball from that kid.
It was from that black dude who tried to take it from the back. Take it.
It was from the black dude who tried to take it. Watch it again.
Lollipop is a great line. And then he Grinched himself on Instagram.
Yeah. I thought that he was taking it away from that.
He also spilled that kid's drink on him, which is awesome. I thought he was taking it away from the kid.
And I thought that we're witnessing is like, that is the next chiefs fan and blackface origin story right there. That kid, they got the, that got the Christmas ball, take it away from him.
We also had, and I don't know if David Jacoby, who works ESPN,

very funny guy.

I don't know if he came up with it,

but I'm going to give him credit for coming up with it.

This is way better than any scorigami ever.

So Jake, suck on this.

He said that this was the first time ever we had a fart and a taint

in back-to-back plays.

A fart is a fumble and a return for a touchdown, and taint is a touchdown after interception so pretty cool i don't know i don't know when we've last had that i don't know if does that guy actually work for espn or is that just like his twitter bio to be like yeah i'm putting out some bullshit no it's jacoby he was he worked like grand it is yeah yeah yeah jacoby does he did this show with Jalen Rose. Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't know it was him. Okay.
Yeah, no, I mean, I'm giving him credit because so far in the taint, like I'm mad that I didn't come up with that. Yeah, it's pretty good.
It's pretty good. But if you're the Raiders, I think now you have to look in the mirror and say Antonio Pierce needs to be the head coach.
His message before this game, according to Tracy Wolfson was the message is hatred, violence, and pain. This is going to be a violent game.
There will be no better head coach for the Raiders. They might even, they should move the team back to Oakland and have Antonio Pierce coach the Oakland.
Cause this is like, he's a Raiders fan.

He grew up a Raiders fan. It's the perfect culture fit.
Like, yeah, Rich Passaccio would have been awesome as a Raiders head coach. You missed out on him.
You should probably kept Tom Cable around for a while just so he could like beat the crap out of his assistant coaches. That's a great culture fit too.
Antonio Pierce should be the next Raiders head coach. So I joked on, uh, xvideos.com.

Um, and it's, it kind of was one of those jokes that i know that it like probably hit too close to home for raiders fans but i said that antonio pierce has done a good enough job as the raiders interim that mark davis will offer 200 million dollars to lincoln riley because it does feel like he's always he's always gonna maybe do that I was like yeah this guy the rich Versace no let's get Josh McDaniels like this guy's done a great job he's got us playing hard yeah oh this shiny flashy toy over here yeah let me overpay for him yeah where's that money going to come from though that's the thing is like I think Mark Davis might have painted himself into a corner with the last two mistakes that he made where he won't be able to go ahead and make a third.

He's made so many fuck-ups that he's actually prevented himself

from fucking up again.

He might say to Antonio Pierce, like, you love the Raiders?

How much do you love the Raiders?

Will you coach them for free?

Yeah.

He'd probably do it.

Can I issue a P.F. Chang's gift card?

I love Antonio Pierce as a message of hatred,

violence,

and pain.

I love that.

If we don't get Mark Davis on for Super Bowl week,

someone listening right now has an in with Mark Davis,

please.

It's all we want.

We want to go to lunch with Mark Davis at PF Chang's and do an interview

there.

And we have people in the background.

I don't care.

It will sound terrible,

but it's,

it's all we want.

We'll be right back. want to go to lunch with mark davis at pf jenks and do an interview there and you have people in the background i don't care it will sound terrible but it's it's all we want we might just have to say it's a white whale you know what here's what we'll say uh our treat we'll pay yeah i'll match davis mark davis we will take you out to uh pf changs if you're choosing in the greater las vegas area and we're buying you know what i'm gonna one-up that for us so this we both have to pay mark davis you come on pardon my take we will give the your favorite pf changs our credit card and we'll say all week this guy eats for free all week all week you can have as much as you want on us yeah and and we'll cover tip too you you know what let's let's just double ourselves two weeks how much damage can one man do imagine imagine if we if that ends the podcast we don't a very, very funny way to end it.

We shut down from Vegas and there's just like a foreclosed sign on the

Chicago HQ.

I think it would have to say,

we'd have to put in some sort of stipulation,

like he has to eat it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You have to,

you have to be present eating a meal for each one of these.

You can't just go up there and like do two lunches,

brunch, Leonard. Yeah.
Uh, fourth meal. Yeah.
No, you have to be eating every meal for each one of these you can't just go up there and like do two lunches brunch linner yeah uh fourth meal yeah no you have to be eating every meal yeah you have to yeah you're allowed to bring home leftovers but let's be reasonable about it let's be reasonable about it we've made our demands we what we know why your response yeah no one could put us out of business with the wine selection that's true that's true's true. Top shop.
Do you think P.F. Chang's has like an old cellar with like 1940, you know, like war era French wine that's never been opened? No.
They've got a cellar and it's got 1930 Mad Dog. Night Train.
They have the largest collection of Thunderbird west of the Mississippi. They have a Mai Tai from 1923.
Still sitting there. This Thunderbird is so good that it costs $7 a bottle.
All right. Wrapping up two more games.
Eagles, Giants, Max. It looked great.
It looked great for the first half. Then it got very scary.
Wins a win. But have any of your concerns been alleviated? Alleviated, no.
But I'm not going to be upset about this game. So the answer is no.
Alleviated, no. But we can build off this.
Max, would you say that you were optimistic when you tweeted season over? We can't. I retweeted that.
Nothing that I tweet in the middle of a football game should come back to follow me into this podcast. Is the season over, Max? What did you say? Was the season over? Well yeah there was one play that saved the season it was after the pick six they go to third and 20 that was the the third and 20 day j brown was the play that saved the season because if they don't pick that up they're fucked that boston scott fumble was so funny that was but i mean that was the worst thing since above fumble so funny it was how does that happen how does your own player tackle you into a fumble to start the second half and shout out memes he had a great headline he's like when harry and marv uh have to rob an eight-year-old yeah that was good that's exactly what it looked like that was insane i watched that movie today that's a perfect description it really is it really is so um yeah wins a win we have to unfortunately say goodbye to our our italian uh you know he was he was the chosen one tommy devito he's had a rough week He got benched.
He had an ad on social media where he was uh doing an ad for reo's sauce italians were not happy about that they were upset about the canned sauce in his house gravy yeah i uh i'm happy we listen i don't regret anything that we said on this podcast about him I'm happy we enjoyed that moment i'm sad it's over but all good things must come to an end i don't think we've seen the last of tommy devito something tells me tommy might be popping his head listen he got he got benched for tarod taylor and if you know anything about the history of tarod taylor like you can't help but root the guy. He's had so many fluke injuries, weird shits happened to him.

He got benched for Nathan Peterman at one point

where he threw five picks and a half.

He goes out to San Diego.

He's going to get the starting jump.

I think they were still in San Diego.

I might be wrong.

And he goes out there and gets his ribs broken.

He tries to take a painkilling shot to play through the pain, get back in game when he takes a painkilling shot they puncture his lung and he has to go to the hospital then he's out for weeks and then Justin Herbert takes over and then it's on and on and on for him so it's it's tough to root against to Rod Taylor but um knowing what we do know about his history we might see more Tommy DeVito later on this season.

That's what I'm saying.

I wouldn't write Tommy off just yet.

Here's what I'm hoping for Tommy DeVito.

I'm hoping he goes into witness protection for a while,

and by that I mean he's the third-string quarterback

on the Chargers or maybe the Cardinals.

And then a couple years pass, and then he pops back up,

and we get to see him, and we get to relive everything,

and maybe he's learned some things. That's what I hope tommy evito maybe goes to the jets yeah someone just like keep them keep them in the city someone did tweet like there really can't be anything worse than getting benched on national tv on christmas and then having to go sleep in your childhood bedroom yeah it's It's tough.
It's tough. But we love Tommy.
I want Tommy on the show. What are we going to offer him? As many Cutlass as he wants.
We'll get him a chain. Yeah.
We'll get you another chain. We'll get you a nice new chain.
I don't think we've seen the last one this year. I think he was too much fun to the point where I feel like the Giants

will bring him back next year.

Yeah, I hope so.

As far as the backup goes, he had a few good games.

He played pretty good against the Packers.

Yeah.

He looked like a good quarterback.

He looked like a good quarterback against the Commanders.

Now, granted, the Saints didn't go so well. This game didn't go so well.
but he didn't even get a chance to get into a rhythm it was very sad today where before the game they did a big feature on tommy devito talking about how kids all over the state in new jersey were waking up that christmas morning unwrapping tommy devito jerseys oh man yeah and and he was like crying thinking about he's like yeah you know like i to be that kid where, you know, Christmas morning, I forget what was the Italian linebacker from Notre Dame. He's like, I got his Jersey and that meant a lot to me.
And just, it's a beautiful thing. Seeing kids get that with my name on the back.
And then like little did we know, but there was like an hour long countdown clock on the Tommy DeVito life cycle that was going on at the moment that was about to expire. Yeah, tough, tough.
But we love him. Max, you feel good, though? Second seed kind of wrapped up.
Well, actually, first seed still play. First seed's alive.
Although I think the Niners play the Cardinals. And then the Rams.
The Rams could be playing for something in week 18. And the Rams are frisky.
We've said that.ams are frisky yeah or dangerous was the word yeah they're they're officially dangerous they've officially been in the dangerous tier um so yeah let's let's talk about the uh ravens niders game i mean that was that was a beat down by the ravens prog purdy four interceptions uh like you i thought for sure the ravens were going to be fucked after that safety and it was just yeah i mean the ravens like they i i don't even think they played like a perfect offensive game but their defense was flying around stopping outside of that one drive where kyle shanahan remembered that he has christian mcafree and they should just run the ball the 49ers just looked out of sorts Kittle looked pretty good but yeah Kittle had a couple huge passes in the beginning coming from Purdy Purdy was very confused by the defense he had a lot of like deflected passes too Jadavian Clowney good reminder he plays for the Ravens yep uh you'll be forgiven if you forget that because he plays on a different team every year I actually like his style where he's just like I'm going to perpetually be a free agent. He's addicted to betting on himself.
Yeah. And when he's playing, he still plays really well.
Purdy was definitely uncomfortable for most of the game. I want to know if there's such a thing as like a comeback, Agami, because in my dumb brain, I see 2-0 and I think game over.
I wonder what percentage of teams that have gone down by safety to start a game have ever come back and won that game. And they not only came back, but they dominated.
Lamar Jackson, by the way, making Fred Warner look like an infant on a scramble. It's good to have a reminder every now and again about just how good Lamar Jackson is with his feet.
That was my whole point about the safety. Like any other player, Lamar Jackson can get out of anything.
And he makes people look like they're moving in slow motion. Fred Warner is one of the best linebackers in the game.
And he made him look like he had cement boots on. Like that's, he's just in the Ravens now.
I mean, we went into this weekend being like, you know, the Diners are in a class of their own. Now, I mean, are the Ravens in a class of their own? I don't even know.
This is the most wide open NFL playoffs I feel like we've had in a very, very long time where there's just so many teams that are just everyone has a flaw. And like the Ravens, you could say, well, they haven't won a big playoff.
You know what I mean? They've won what Lamar's won one playoff game. So you kind of have to prove it.
But every team has a flaw in some capacity and we'll see what happens. It's awesome.
I'm so excited for the playoffs. I was very wrong about this game.
I thought that the Niners, I thought that they didn't have a flaw. I thought that their flaw was being injured and they were healthy today and even before like trent williams went out they they just got their ass kicked today yeah see i i i did have the the ravens today and it's really just i think the ravens and the browns are the two teams that play defense on a different level and i look i don't think brock purdy's bad we've said we've said it he's a good quarterback like there's you can't take anything away from the season he's had but when you have to play a defense that good it's it things don't come as easy as as they do when you're playing other teams yeah yep so good this is another good reminder that uh we're dumb as shit and sometimes don't know anything.
For me personally, at least. Also, you could say like Brock Purdy could use some help in this game.
Could use a couple more weapons. Right? Mm-hmm.
His lack of weapons today was probably Brock Purdy. That's probably the fault of the Niners.
Brock Purdy can't do it all on his own. Get him a wide receiver, get him a tight end, get him a decent running game, and get him like a stud offensive lineman, and then we'll truly see what Brock Purdy can do.
Who the fuck is – I do think that this definitely changed the discourse. I think we're seeing a major discourse alert here.
Brock Purdy no longer the front runner to win NFL nfl mvp i don't think i was gonna say who the fuck is gonna win mvp now is lamar's the favorite lamar's minus 200 so is this is why i'm not this is why the mvp in the nfl is so stupid and lamar would be a deserving favorite or deserving winner because it does usually go to

just whoever gets the one seed the quarterback of the one seed but it's so stupid because the

mvp it feels like is decided in the last three weeks of the season every year so whoever has

them whoever has a big prime time game at the end of the year and if they play well they win the mvp

a huge come up for for our boy mike florio my internet dad uh your internet uncle lamar called

Let's go. And if they play well, they win the MVP.
A huge come up for our boy, Mike Florio, my internet dad, your internet uncle.

Lamar called him out, called him Mike Florist, which is – that name is going to stick.

I can tell you right now.

I haven't heard the clip.

I'm going to play it live for the first time.

Jake just sent this to us.

Here tonight, his numbers are outstanding 252 yards oh that's that in a way that's good for mike yeah Yeah. Like getting, getting into a public beef with Lamar Jackson.

Like congratulations, Mike.

Although at what, at what cost now your nickname is just Mike Flores.

That's still good for the brand.

I'd say.

I think he went also went on a rant after the game and the post game presser

about him.

So wait, what did Mike Florio say about?

Oh, he said that the Niners were going to kick the shit out of him.

Wait.

Oh, the Ravens.

The Ravens also went after Mike Florio with their social media team.

As long as the key players are healthy,

they're going to kick the shit out of everybody they face.

The quest is for second place.

That's it.

As long as those people stay healthy.

They're currently healthy.

The 49ers kicked the shit out of the Raven here on Monday night. Then they put all the clips.
Oh, Mikey, Mike. I want to laugh real hard at that, but everything Mike Flores said right there was virtually identical to what I said on Friday.
Should we call him? Do you think he's still up? No chance. Oh yeah.
He's up. Mike's up.
So yeah, let's call him. I kind of want to do the revolving and hang up on him.
I'm not going to, cause I love him. Hello.
We're taping part of my take right now. Do you have a comment? Sorry.
We're live to tape on part of my take we now have an exclusive with mike florist hello gentlemen how are you merry christmas merry christmas what what is your christmas mike what is my comment yeah mike florist oh uh look i was wrong i wrong. I hung up on him.
I feel bad. Should I call him back? I feel bad.
You hear it. I'll call him back.
Just tell him my phone died. We'll go good cop, bad cop on him.
I don't know why. He just can't.
I want to call rafell again don't do it congratulate him on northwestern's win hello hey mike sorry about that big cat's phone died so i wanted to call you back now um you said that they uh that the ravens were going to get the shit kicked out of them on Monday night, on Christmas Day, and then the Ravens social media,

and more notably Lamar Jackson called you Mike Flores.

Do you have a comment about the nickname?

I don't have any problem with it.

I've been called worse.

Okay.

Big skin.

I like that.

Hang up on him.

All right.

Look, I thought the 49ers were the best team by far,

and it would have been anybody on Christmas night.

Look at what they did to the Cowboys.

Look at what they did to the Eagles. Look at what they've done since coming out of their

bye week you look at the scores of the games they've dismantled everybody i thought on christmas

night ravens flying across the country all right that was my florist

buy mike's book all the way home i actually started reading it's very good hey pft lost you i think his phone died all right you know what we love you mike that's fine mike we love you and more also we just plugged your book i started reading it how far did you get page one no i'm a chapter in okay keep going all right yes you told me to throw it away. Yeah, I told you.
That's a chapter No, I'm a chapter in. Okay.
Keep going.

All right.

Yes, you told me.

Two, throw it away.

Yeah, I told you.

After chapter two, throw it away.

All right.

So where can people buy it?

Amazon. Amazon.

Call back.

Rule three.

Rule three.

Just tell me, Amazon.

Call him one more time.

He's going to be so mad.

I'm such dicks.

You know what? Fuck both of you.

What's the website that they can buy it at, Mike?

Stop. Stop.
I'm not. I'm not.

I'm done. Okay.
I love you, Mike.

I love you, Mike. I got to go.
My phone's about to die. Big Cat loves you, too.
Bye. Bye.
Speaking of Christmas gifts, did you get your Schefter gift? Oh, did I? What was it? I got mine on Friday. It arrived.
And I have a very important question for you about it wait i do have a big box it was a big box it was a big box shefter's got a huge box okay i do have it i got in shefter's box and i need to know what yours says on it because he he sent a very nice cashmere blanket it's super soft hold on let me go. So while you're, while you're away, I'll explain what my question is going to be.
I opened it up. It's a great blanket, but it's got a giant S on it.
So I think that there's a good chance that Schefter sent out a gift to everybody of a big blanket with his initial on it, which would be an all time power move. Now there, maybe he sent me a blanket that had my dead brother's initial on it.

So I don't know if it's that personalized.

So we'll see if Big Cats has a K for cats or an S for Schefter.

I hope that he's just sending out blankets with his last initial on it.

I'm still laughing about the Florio call.

I texted him.

I said, sorry.

Sorry, we're dickheads. We can't change.
We suck. Good way to sum us up, right? There's nothing I can do.
I'm 38 years into this. I can't change the fact that if hanging up on someone we can call them is funny.
It's sorry. I need to know if your blanket has a giant S on it.
Okay. Monogram for Schefter.

That's what I'm thinking that he just sent out blankets with his initial on

it.

No,

it's last.

This is a K.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right,

cool.

All right.

Mine had an S.

I thought that it was S for Schefter on mine.

That's very thoughtful.

Thank you,

Adam.

That rocks.

Yeah.

Also just a reminder that I just don't open any of my mail. It's been sitting in my front hallway since Thursday.
I'm the worst. I saw an Instagram where a wife just went around their house and just wrapped up all the shit that the husband has lying around and gave it to him and he like he didn't figure it out till halfway through my wife was like i could do this to you and i was like you you could you even that even that you've told me this you could still do it to me like when my birthday you could just give me all the junk in my house and and the stuff like from the studio yeah just uh everywhere that whole closet that was very nice shefter um okay uh let's finish

up who's back of the week rowback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts go right now roback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase uh who's back of the week? PFT, we'll start with you. Yeah, it's been a pretty fun week, doing a lot of traveling, but it is also the end of the year.
And with the end of the year comes the beginning of the new year and New Year's resolutions. And I just want to remind everybody, I am going to be doing pretty much dry January again this year.
So you're all welcome to join. Basically dry January is coming back.
The rules are as follows. No drinking unless it's a Friday.
If there's football on, on a Monday, you can also drink on a Saturday and you can have brunch on a Sunday and then you can have a beer during the week, any night. But besides that, no heavy drinking whatsoever.
Unless again, maybe there's like a party. Also, you get a Monday off.
So you can drink that Sunday night and all day on that Monday too. But besides that, I'm trying to get into shape.
I'm trying to lose some weight. Trying to really get healthy before we go out to Vegas for the Super Bowl, because I'm sure we're going to be eating and drinking like shit out there.
So now's the time where you can really grab the bull by the horns and do pretty much dry January with me. It's basically dry January, and it's always a lot of fun.
So the more the merrier on the bandwagon. Love it.
My New Year's resolution is I'm going to eat more blizzards, Dairy Queen blizzards blizzards okay i was also gonna drink more water yeah which is one that i say every year yeah but i just i like to do new year's resolutions are to me less about changing yourself for the better and more about just doing the things you like more and i like eating blizzards so i'm i'm i'm thinking i'm thinking like 50 My resolution last year, I think, was do everything that I'm already doing except do it harder. Oh, okay.
Just like turn it up. Yeah, turn it up a notch.
Yeah, go off. That's my news resolution this year.
I'm just going to turn up a notch. I saw a very funny tweet.
Some guy, let me give him a shout out because it made me laugh he said uh let's see as what is his handle his hands uh up blissed he said 2019 broke me 2020 changed me 2021 i'm on drugs 2022 i'm on drugs 2023 i'm on drugs 2024 i'm locking in yeah hell yeah and then had a follow-up saying 2024 i'm still on drugs but don't get it twisted I'm just locking in. Yeah.
Hell yeah. And then had a follow up saying 2024.
I'm still on drugs, but don't get it twisted. I'm just locking into.
So yeah, that's everyone's resolutions. We did.
There's another, there's one more rule for pretty much try January. I forgot about that.
If you're on a plane, you can also drink on a plane. Absolutely.
We did a new year's resolutions on Barstool sports advisors. And Jerry's resolution is just Trump 2024.
His resolution is someone else winning the presidency. Got me a good laugh.
All right, my who's back of the week is, well, I have two. Stefan Diggs, we didn't talk about it, Diva Alert.
He wore a skirt to the game on saturday night and then also espn put it up a instagram that was like stefan diggs hasn't had a hundred yard game in the last nine games and he just did the sad face emoji as a comment so um yeah diva alert and then my other who's back is uh ben verlander our good friend who we've never had on but we could we'll have him on sometime uh everyone knows here ben verlander uh huge shohei otani fan huge shohei otani fan so um remember he when shohei got hurt he said he was he was puking he was literally sick um and he he cares a lot about shohei otani ben verlander uh went and did a uh I think it was a tv hit but it was put on social media where he said that Shohei Otani to the Dodgers is the most important signing in Dodgers history I have no problem saying that it's the most important it's the biggest it's the most impactful PFT hand up because i have a question um jackie robinson yes which team did he play for the dodgers pretty impactful okay i thought so yeah impactful the word impactful impactful is interesting yeah the most important the most impactful um the internet dunked on him which whatever he you know he's just in the moment he forgot a little history yeah no big deal he's a good guy i saw i saw a little video that came out over the weekend um so joe kelly his wife yes said that shohei could have joe kelly's number if he signed with the dodgers shohei embraced a big good guy move or sneaky sneaky move bought joe kelly's wife a porsche and just had the porsche dropped off he bought another man's wife a porsche never buy another man's wife a porsche as a man would you let another man park his porsche in your wife's garage i'll actually go one further never buy your wife a porsche that's also good these are going to take this because they can't drive um i was messed up a few minutes because they can't drive no that's not what i meant um i was just thinking about something else uh no i would i would never buy another man's wife a porsche i'd buy my wife

a porsche i would never buy another man's wife what uh maybe i'd buy another man listen if you

have if you have 700 million deferred i would respectfully buy j-lo a porsche yeah now the real

question is um would you let another man a porsche would you let another man buy your wife a porsche yes 100 yeah because i get to drive a porsche fuck that then you just then you just sell it yeah are you kidding me the porsche yeah i don't that would that would not bother me i just think of us like being on a one of those you've seen those clips where i think we're talking about with jewels where it's like just two dudes like just parading like a like a line of five women just being like you're you're worthless like we would just be on that podcast but you let someone buy your wife a porsche what the fuck like dude i don't care it's a porsche the fuck do i care that's awesome that's a sick car i want that yeah my real my real question is um is shohei otani too nice of a guy that's just such a nice guy move where it's like does he have that killer instinct he's thinking about other people all the time but you do you do pay for the numbers matt barkley sold yeah told kim noon he'd sell it for a million bucks so yeah i think it's i think it's all fair play i think it's all fair play um of course it's pretty sweet max you just if you wake up one morning and it's was it on christmas was this like a chris like because that would totally cuck your own christmas present yeah it would max you just text us 225 that's how long it is tight show uh yeah memes asked me how how long it was going and i accidentally sent it to the wrong group that is a fact that it's 225 and wait this is a tight show yeah history of part of my take producers that have done that that's that's not me this is a tight show i feel like we've been pretty tight look pft and i like to talk ball we always joke about it, but if you told us tomorrow we weren't doing this job anymore, on Sunday would come by and I'd be like, PFT, you want to come over and just we'll watch football and just talk ball? That's what we would do. We just happened to do it for the microphones.
This is honestly the best part of our week. Yeah, we would do this exact same thing if you took the job away.
Okay. Max finishes off.
Who's back? NBA being irrelevant. Go on.
Did you guys see LeBron almost died today? I saw that. Yeah, he looked.
Did he get his leg amputated? That was such classic LeBron. He had like the whole training staff out there.
He need Jalen Brown in the butt and then looked like he was never going to walk again, and he missed 30 seconds of the game. Yeah, he looked like Barbaro before they shot him.
There was also that review where they called a foul on him, and they reviewed it, and they were like, just to be clear, it was a clean block on LeBron, but he was still fat. But, but what else found him on the body? No, I think, I think what the ref said, because it was very funny the way he said it, he goes, uh, it was a nice block by LeBron.
He made sure to compliment LeBron before calling him a foul. Yeah.
The NBA has gotten cucked by the nfl sorry we're gonna have our preview soon as soon as the nfl's over we'll have our nba preview sorry we i like the nba i like the nfl more i've watched every nba game that today watching the the suns mavs right now kd is uh apparently not happy with the sun's shocking news he should get traded he probably should demand a trade um okay well thank you everyone who tuned in uh tight show we have lottery ball we taped all the lottery balls so we have that and then we will see everyone on friday so friday will be our next show and we'll do a preview uh that will be zoom as well but then we will be back in studio for the college football playoffs on monday night on january 1st so um yeah thanks everyone for tuning in i don't know why i'm talking like this i want to call florio again so bad love you guys oh i did the love you Bonus love you guys. I want to call him so bad right now.

Okay, we're back in the studio for the numbers.

Numbers?

40.

8.

71.

18.

20.

3.

28, Pug.

Love that out of you, Pug.

No one changed.

Love that out of you, Pug.

I am Pug.

93. 93.
93. We stink at this.
Yeah. I'm good at it until Crybaby Max shows up.
I'm good at it. Hank's good at it.
You too are good at it. Crybaby Max.
Bitch. Love you guys.
Kane is in the building. Talking away.
Thank you. Shine away, I'll be coming for your love of faith Shine away, I'll be coming for your love of faith Needless to say, I'm all sending It's about to be a storm of air It's about to be a storm of air It's about to be a storm of air I can take on.
Take on me. Take on me.
Take on me. Take on me.
Take on me. Things that You don't do it To remember You're shy and awake All that come in for you When you like You're shy and awake All that come in for you When you like Take on me Take on me Take me Take on me.
Take me out. Take me out.
Take me out. Take me out.
Take me out. Take me out.
I'm you. Take on me.

Take on me.

Take on me.

Take on me.

Take on me.