Colt McCoy, NFL Agent Sean Stellato, Eagles Lose On MNF, Rashard Mendenhall's Hypothetical + Guys On Chicks

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On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people. We have Texas quarterback, many-year pro in the NFL, Colt McCoy, talking about Texas being back.
And then we also have in studio, Sean Stellato, agent of Tommy DeVito. Just a good guy.
Getting inducted into the Italian-American Sports Hall of Fame later on that day. Yes, good fucking guy.
We're going to talk Monday Night Football. There should be some stuff that we have to talk about there.
Maybe some Rashard Mendehal who got the whole world in a tizzy for 24 hours, which I appreciated. Hot seat, cool throne, and we'll wrap up with guys on chicks.
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Okay, let's go.

Bye!

Bye! Let's him. Drew Locke.
Hey, PFT, hold on. The Moxie King.
Before we start, we should probably put our backpack on. Strap up.
Strap up. Put our backpack on.
What's the difference between the backpack and then the strap? That's the seatbelt. Seatbelt.
Seatbelt. And this is to secure the bag.
I don't know about you, you but i was cool when i was a kid so i used to rock just one arm yeah back so i'd strap up like that i also used to take the seat belt put it behind me that's pretty sick yeah real badass we're yeah we don't give a fuck yeah i'll do anything uh monday night football it was a great game fellas a great game it really was it was a fun game and you know like going into the game there was a lot of talk about who was going to play a quarterback for the Seahawks. Would it be Geno Smith? Would it be Drew Locke? Drew Locke had his Geno Smith moment.
Yes. Monday Night Football.
The Seahawks are leading the league. Now they've got two quarterbacks that have.
That was awesome interviews after a big Monday Night Football win. Yep.
Drew Locke, my take that he would make four Pro Bowls, which I said like four years ago, three years ago on this program, now it's at an all-time high. I think it's even higher than it was when I said it at the time, to be more likely.
He's probably not going to do that, but it's closer than it was yesterday. And it was cool to see Drew Locke emotional after the game, not like with the whole jeezy, swaggy guy, just like a humble, thankful, almost in tears type of guy.
When DK came up to him, you saw him like dap him up, and he did the real life Shaquille O'Neal. I owe you an apology, young man.
I was not familiar with your game. Yeah, it was cool.
It was cool. It's cool to root for a story like that.
Drew Locke, the Seahawks season is saved, where now they are still like neck and neck, where they're tied at 7-7 with the Vikings and the Rams and the Saints. Yeah, Drew Locke having that moment, having everyone talking about him.
It also is nice because in the Drew Locke-Tom Herman famous battle where Texas was back for a moment and he did the backpack against Drew Locke's Mizzou team in that bowl game. Tom Herman is now at FAU.
He's 4-8. Had a 4-8 season.
Drew Locke has won the war. He killed Tom Herman.
He killed Tom Herman. We even had Joe Buck.
Joe Buck was in his bag on Monday night. He had a couple times.
He said analytics says to go for it, but that doesn't factor in Drew Locke, which I thought was very funny. Drew Locke kind of made him look stupid there.
He also had a moment where he did the Dwight Howard, Gordon Hayward tweet, basically in real life, where he's like, the Eagles are trying to win their first game without Big Dom on the sideline. He's watching from up above.
I saw that. Yeah.
That was very funny. I don't know if he actually meant to say that he was dead or not.
No, he was just kind of. Yeah, Big Don was up in the booth.

Yeah.

Enjoying some snacks up there.

But, yeah, Drew Locke, it was a great moment for Drew Locke,

great moment for the Seahawks.

It was weird how we – I don't remember a time when we had a game where we were like five minutes before kickoff

and everyone was like, I don't know who's going to start tonight.

Really for either team.

Yeah.

I think it was a couple hours before that they said Jalen Hurts

was actually going to make the start.

But, yeah, it was totally up in the air. This is the seventh straight Monday Night Football with an upset, which is crazy.
That is crazy. This is good for football.
There was a moment there at the end of the game when I believe it was the Eagles driving and Pete Carroll used a timeout. No, no, the Seahawks were driving.
Pete Carroll used a timeout for no real reason. and then nick sirianni got a chance to look at the replay because they called the timeout sirianni throws the challenge flag the eagles win the challenge and then after the challenge was over p carroll was asking the refs like hey do i get my timeout back right afterwards and sirianni looked at him and he goes what the fuck are you doing no fuck you know you don't get but yeah p carroll a kid that gets sent to timeout.
And he's like, can I bring my Game Boy to timeout? Yeah, I made a mistake. No, you fucked up.
You fucked up, Pete. And yeah, the Drew Locke drive at the end of the game, I think everybody had the same thought, which was too much time on the clock for Drew Locke.
Too much time for Drew Locke. And he just started feeding the ball to DK.
And DK went bully mode on everybody. DK, that one catch was, I mean, it was insane.
How he ended up catching that ball. Yeah, and DK was like, he had basically nothing for the first three quarters.
Showed up when it mattered. Jackson Smith and the Jigba is awesome.
It was good for the Seahawks. It's fun when the Seahawks are rocking.
That stadium's rocking. Drew Locke has his moments.
It's fun. Yeah, and Pete Carroll wearing the backwards hat at the podium after the game.
forget how old pete carroll is he's so old he looks better than like most of the 40 year olds that i know he's he's the oldest by age and the youngest by like spirit yeah he is he really is uh like a lost boy he's forever 21 yeah um we also had some discourse last night okay uh regarding the tush push yeah and whether or not they're gonna ban it i've actually i've come like oh we haven't done this yet i've come full circle on the tush push now i kind of want the tush push banned just so that we can stop debating whether or not the tush push is going to be banned yeah i'm sick of it and also uh jason i'm not sick to play to be clear the play should stay i'm just sick of people debating whether the play should be gone jason kelsey got flagged for moving the ball forward before the tush push which he's been doing forever they decided i do think it is funny the refs like they got so much blowback from the chiefs in the canary's tony thing where they've just been calling everyone offsides for a week and a half yeah they're like no see we call it all the time we're gonna take you out back and make you smoke the whole pack of offside, see how much you love.

I have a question, though.

Okay.

Max, do you regret making this game a must-win?

Because you lost a must-win.

Yes, they lost a must-win.

So the season's over.

The Eagles will not be winning the Super Bowl this year.

Oh, no.

Oh, season over?

Oh, no, put out the press clippings.

The Eagles. And now Max also said that he's not going to get angry today.
Correct. And he's not going to talk.
He's going to pull a Hank. I'll talk when you need me to talk.
Okay, great. So that's already out the window.
Max is also, we were debating putting Max on the couch. I think Max is better when he's behind the glass like a gorilla Harambe, RIP, at the zoo where like he can get a little bit more aggravated when he's behind the glass like a gorilla, Harambe, RIP, at the zoo, where he can get a little bit more aggravated when he's behind the glass and that's separating us.
Yeah, it's like, you ever seen a dog behind a fence when you walk by in the yard and they just start barking at you and then you open up the fence gate and they just snuggle? Yeah. Just rub up against you? That's Max.
I have some questions for Max. Yes?

He's a test.

Hank, do you have any questions for Max?

Yeah, I have a few.

Hank, why don't you take the lead? Why don't you start?

Why don't you start?

Well, we have some questions.

Don't get mad.

I'm not mad.

But if you do get mad, that's okay because you're behind the glass.

I'm not mad.

Do you think if Marcus Mariota starts that game, the Eagles score a touchdown?

What the fuck kind of question was that, Hank? Not Hank? They did score a touchdown. He throws a touchdown.
They actually did score a touchdown. Yeah, they did score a touchdown.
And Jalen, next question. Oh, your next question? I mean, that was so dumb.
Next question. Okay, it wasn't the best start.
He did score two touchdowns. Yeah.
Okay, it wasn't the best start. All right, let me, Hank, we'll just go around the horn with questions.
Max, you've talked a lot about- He passed a touchdown? He ran for two. He didn't pass any touchdowns.
It was a whiff on the first question. All right, that's fine.
We'll come back around to you. It's okay.
Max, there's been a lot of talk about the defense. Defense actually played pretty well last night.

When are you going to finally say that the offense is also a problem?

Offense, big problem.

Big problem.

Okay, so when are you going to ask the question,

is Jalen Hurts the guy?

Yes.

Okay, so you don't have to ask the question. Why do you think he's the guy?

I think he's proven enough to this

point of his career that he's still the guy.

He had a very bad game

last night. He hasn't looked right all year.

Is he himself this year?

I don't think so. He may not be himself.

Would you still suck his dick right now?

There was

a moment where I would.

But not currently. He's not playing well enough or because he's sick.
He is sick. Yeah.
So that's why. Safety.
Safety. Health and safety is number one.
Always comes number one. Yeah.
He's not playing good football right now. He's turning the ball over too much.
He was probably too sick to play last night, although I don't understand how sickness could account for why the fuck you would throw that ball. Quez Watkins? Or at the end of the game.
Yeah. Kenneth Gainwell was wide open right in front of you to get 15 yards and give Jake Elliott a shot to put it to overtime, and then you just throw a deep ball into double coverage that has no chance of ever getting caught.
And if it does get caught, you're still in the same position as if you were to just do a check down and go 20 yards. Yeah.
Max, I was watching Jalen Hurts last night. I was thinking to myself, you could chalk this up to an illness game, like the flu game.
Yeah, but I won't. But then he just wasn't good at throwing the ball.
He was still really good at rushing the ball. The offense looks just clunky.
He had 82 yards rushing last night. I don't think the offensive play calling is good.
I don't know if you can chalk that one up to him being sick. I didn't.
Yeah. Shane Steichen actually should get coach of the year by virtue of how bad the Eagles offense.
Correct. That's a good point.
Max, another question. You tweeted, James Bradbury must have had the worst final drive in the history of football there.
Can you think of any other drives that James Bradbury maybe made a big mistake? This was worse. He was targeted on every reception in that drive.
He was worse. Than the Super Bowl.
That wasn't... I don't think you should have called that play.
Then the Super Bowl. I get the Super Bowl, but like...
I don't think you get the Super Bowl. I get the Super Bowl.
I guess last night was a must win and Max never said the Super Bowl was a must win. Yeah, what'd you make the Super Bowl? Super Bowl was a must win.
Lost a must win there too. So you're...
I think you're actually 0 for 5 on must win. Yeah.
No, I'm 0 for 5 on you. It's all prevented if you had made this a can't lose.

No, get mad.

It's fine. No.
Yeah. Okay, Hank, you got a question? Hank's banned from questions.
Was his foot down at the end? I don't care about. Another thing, don't care about.
Even if his foot wasn't down, you still have six seconds left, and you still need to get 20 yards and kick a field goal. like the chances of even if even if that wasn't an interception the chances of them winning that

game were so astronomically low because he made the decision to make that throw in the first place so i don't give a fuck about that interception and i hate that people were talking about it like it was a big deal because it didn't matter they were losing that game whether that was called an interception or not and you're not mad and. And I'm not mad, but I'm just speaking emotionally.
So are you worried about the future? Yeah. I mean, I would be.
Everyone's getting old. Yeah.
Oh, windows. Should we do window talk? Jalen Carter, though.
Jalen Carter was so good. Window talk.
Window talk. Was that the window last year? No.
The window continued into this year, but the coaching has been fucking horrible.

I mean.

So you're ruining a window.

Yeah.

This was a window ruining year.

What's an ideal record for the rest of the season?

Another stupid question.

They're not going to lose another game.

Yeah.

Here's the thing about the Eagles.

Oh, yeah.

You got Italian crime going on. You have to put Big Dom back on the sidelines to cataract Tommy DeVito.
Well, I have a stat for you, Max. Since Big Dom has – so before Big Dom got kicked off the sideline, the Eagles were 10-1.
Since Big Dom has been kicked off the sideline, they're 0-3 being outscored 74-43.

How does that affect the play calling?

Well, I mean, Big Dom obviously big factor to that sideline.

Did you see A.J. Brown last night?

Yeah.

He got in the face of a Seahawks pipsqueak.

After he was bumped by a member of the staff on the sideline.

Yeah.

The game should probably be thrown out. But again.
No, anti-Italian discrimination once again. I agree with that.
How do you know that guy wasn't Italian? That guy wasn't Italian. There are no Italians in Seattle.
Fact. Okay.
So, Max, looking at the rest of your season, you're probably going to go 0-3. I hope you go 0-3 because if you don't, then, yeah, you're right, season over.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 3-0. 3-0, you're going to win all three games.
I'm pretty sure you're going to win all three games. Is the division now a must win for you guys? It doesn't matter.
This team sucks. They're not going to do anything.
Do you really think that that fucking... Do you really think that that football team can go into Seattle and win a game in the playoffs? No, I mean, you might go into Tampa Bay.
Or not Seattle. San Francisco.
Okay. North Dallas.
No. There's no chance.
No. Like, who cares? That was the thing about last night.
It really doesn't change anything of the actual season. They were going to get the two-seat anyway.
The Niners are going to beat the Ravens this weekend. Even if the Eagles went out, they need to do regardless.
Question, Max. Because then you guys would win your division.
Could that team beat the 49ers team with no quarterback? I don't know. Right now, I don't think...
Good question, Hank. Good question.
No, Sam Darnold would beat the fuck out of this team right now. No, but no quarterback.
No quarterback. It's happened before.
Yeah. Could you do that again? Are they good enough to do that again? I don't know.
This team sucks. This team can't beat anyone.
This team sucks. Do we need to go back and think, like, were the Eagles ever actually really good, or did they just beat a San Francisco team with no quarterback? Wow.
No. No quarterback were, they would have got, they might never have been good.
They were, they were a faulty holding play away from a Superbowl last year. Now it's faulty.
Oh, it's faulty. Um, yeah, the, the, the craziest part about this Eagles team is like the defense has been bad and it completely covered up for the fact that the offense has not looked right in a long time.
Long time. Yeah.
Matt Patricia looked... The defensive game plan was better last night than it has been in a while.
I really want you to have a pencil in your ear going forward, especially with the way the defense is playing. They played well last night.
James Bradbury is such a joke. Just an absolute...
I'm going to give you one last chance to take back your tweet. No.
Okay. I mean, he got targeted five times, five receptions, 92 yards.
One drive. That's pretty bad.
Not great. What about your running game? Because I felt like Swift looked pretty good last night for the most part.
The running game looked better. Lane Johnson with an ultimate bounce back.
Yeah, that was crazy. Your life flashed before your eyes.
I thought he was dead. And then he comes back one play later.
That was a window closing right there. When he starts screaming on the ground, and you're like, oh shit, his leg's broken, his ankle's broken.
That would have been like dead, dead. You would have been dead, dead, dead.
But he came back. Dead, dead, dead.
And now you're like dead, dead alive. Barely.
Life support. Like Jesus.
Life support alive. Okay, Max.
Well, yeah, I'm sad because it feels like you'll still get up for

the playoffs though yeah they're gonna win they're gonna beat fucking tommy devito by like 30 next

week and i'm gonna be all the way back and then they're gonna play whoever in the second round

of the playoffs cardinals the giants and cardinals back to back yeah giants it's a it's a cardinal

sandwich it's giants cardinals giant is the season over if you lose any of those games

the season's already over he said is a must win thatinals, Giants. Is the season over if you lose any of those games? The season's already over, he said.
It's a must-win that he lost. He lost a must-win.
Season over. Season's over.
Their offense looks like shit. Jalen Hurts.
He just, he like, if he doesn't see it, he just runs out of the pocket and then just throws it out of bounds. I feel like that happens every time.
Every single play happens like that. It's a lot of throwaways.
You're 10-4, Max. Yes.
Like, if the Patriots were 10-4 and going through this, I would be fighting back, and you're just giving in. Yeah, he'd be talking a lot.
After a three-game losing streak, he would be talking. I would say the QB was sick.
He's going to get healthy. We made it to the Super Bowl last year.
We know what we need to do to make it. You would have said that going in advance.
This is the difference between us Patriots fans and Eagles fans. We've got championship DNA, championship pedigree.
We know that the haters are coming at us right now, but these games don't even... Max, the only games that should matter to you as a winning franchise should start in January.
Get right before the playoffs. This is the time to get right.
It's a good wake-up call. It's a great wake-up call.
We've had three wake-up calls in a row. Yeah, you've had a lot of wake-up calls.
It's like you're hungover in a hotel. But one of them doesn't count because your QB was sick.
Are you worried that you're 1-4 ever since Nick Sirianni, or 1-3 ever since Nick Sirianni came off the field in Kansas City and said, how you like that shit? Yeah, Nick Sirianni's slowly turning into a massive...

What?

He's a whatever.

A massive whatever.

We called it the BFT.

If the losses start happening, Nick Sirianni looks different.

There's a lot of discourse in my Eagles group chats

talking about what the fuck Nick Sirianni actually does on the side.

Oh, no. I'm not saying that, but other people are.
Is he a system head coach? I just don't know what he does. Propped up by the coordinators? Max.
It's either Sean Desai's fault or Brian Johnson's fault, why the offense looks bad or why the defense looks bad. What does a head coach do? Max, I have a fix for you.
So the offense looks really bad. You have a

former offensive coordinator that can fix it

right away. I know.
He was already asked

will there be any changes to the

offensive play calling? He said no.

Wait, who are you talking about?

Nick Sirianni said that? No, yeah,

but who are you talking about who could fix it?

Frank Reich? Oh, no.

I was talking about Matt Patricia.

It'd be very funny if they had Matt Patricia

being offensive and defensive coordinator

at the same time. And then Nick

See you same time. And then Nick Sirianni, just a guy that plays Rocky videos.
Wait, so you don't want Matt Patricia to help with the offense? No. Look what he did to the defense.
Defense looks better. It's a rocket science.
You guys were being mean about the defense. So is Josh Dobbs, and he has 17 turnovers.
You know who else has turnovers jalen hurts oh tied with josh dobbs tied with josh allen should we be keeping that same energy for jalen hurts that we have for josh allen uh he's out of my top five oh is he yeah yep no longer elite no longer elite top five is as follows mah, Purdy, Lamar, Burrow. Well, no, he's hurt.
He's hurt. I'd still take Burrow.
Baker. Tweet it.
Why did you use a six? I don't like the way you counted. I did count like this.
You counted to four and then you used. That was weird.
That was weird. That was really weird.
If we're going just based off this week in the NFL, you have to put Baker in your top five. Yeah.
You might put Drew Locke in your top five. No, Burrow's in there, but he's hurt.
Think about right now. Think about this.
Drew Locke just beat a guy that's in your top five. How is he not in your top five? Well, no longer in my top five.
He's unranked. Because he got beaten.
Yeah. We're going to make a graphic of your top five.
Jalen Hurts is no longer in my top five. Yeah, it's a good graphic.
Can I be honest? I would suck a dick for Jalen Hurts. I don't know if I'd do that anymore.
I would maybe hand job, but suck a dick? Suck it, spit, no swallow. I don't think so, man.
There's something off. And he's got all the weapons.
The offensive line is great. It might be play calling.
Maybe they just are in a rut. I don't know.
He has not looked himself this year. How many interceptions, you said? Well, he has 17 turnovers.
Turnovers. Yeah, I don't know how that breaks down with interceptions.
But, yeah, 17 turnovers. That ties him with Josh Dobbs, Josh Allen, and Sam Howell.
What if the Super Bowl was Jalen Hurts' peak? It might have been. That's what I'm saying.
I had no idea. Sometimes you don't even know that the window's closing until after it's shut.
It's a real shame. I'm not going to say what I was going to say.
It's like the Bears last week. The window was open for like four days.
And now it's shut. It goes by that fast.
Four days and three quarters. It goes by that fast.
You're probably going to lose Kelsey in this offseason, right? He might retire. Probably going to retire.
You could lose Lane in the offseason. Lane could retire.
Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham. Fletcher Cox could retire.
Brandon Graham. Jesus.
I mean, Lane could retire. He was talking about retiring before last year,

or at the end of last year.

We should offer him a job.

Big Dom might retire.

Big Dom might retire.

Big Dom.

No, Big Dom.

No, Big Dom.

He's dying in the streets or in jail.

I mean, after experience. Only two ways we go out.

Don't say jail.

Well, there's only two ways we go out in this life.

Not him.

He's back for the playoffs, by the way.

It's only regular season suspension.

Oh, that's huge.

The season might be back on. Yeah.
That's going to be great for momentum. Yeah.
Huge. Huge.
All right. Going to Tampa Bay.
You don't think that you could beat the Bucs on the road? Shut up. I'm trying to pump you up, Max.
I do think that. Okay.
All right. Is that a successful season? I don't know.
I'm just trying to give you a little. Take it one play at a time, Max.
You're talking about playoff football. I know.
You're talking like the season's over. You're 10 and four looking at the playoffs.
Oh, they did lose the must win. That's true.
One of three teams in the NFL to clinch a playoff spot. You know how many teams would die to be in the playoffs right now? I would.
Loser talk. Yeah, he's a loser.
I am a loser. Everyone keeps saying loser talk.
Say that to soundboard. Yes.
I also would like just a clip of it. 14.
14. Can you say it again with the camera on you? No.
Come on. No.
Please? Please? Say it. Please? I just said it.
I just said it. I'm not.
I don't have the camera on. I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not. You just like to poke me.
I'm not. I'm just asking you to say it again.
I do feel like I'm in a zoo. I'm a zoo animal.
All right. Let's talk something else.
Jay, can you clean up after Max after this is over? Richard Mendenhall had everyone talking on Twitter, X, because he basically said that white guys can't have an opinion on football anymore. I've got the direct quote.
All right, give us the direct quote. I'm sick of average white guys commenting on football.
Sounds like he's been listening to part of my take. Yep.
Y'all not even good at football. Can we please replace the Pro Bowl with an all-black versus all-white bowl so these cats can stop trying to teach me who's good at football? I'm better than your goat.
He actually has a great idea. Now, the ratings for this game would be off the charts.
Off the charts. I think everybody would tune into this.
The problem would be you get some people rooting just like a little bit too hard for their side. There were, when he tweeted this, there were some people who had the all-white roster way too quickly.
Yeah. Like, wait, you've've been thinking about it listen he's like here's our offensive line and we got all the tight ends like whoa shit i had to think about it for a second offensive line would be stacked we'd have like tight end almost all the eagles offensive line i actually have a theory that richard mendenhall might be uh he might actually be doing this in favor of christian McCaffrey getting the MVP because when he put this out there, I think we all had the same reaction.
We went through it, you know, the Rolodex in your head. And, like, Christian McCaffrey is the guy you're like, yeah, we got him.
Difference maker. We have a chance.
He's literally the best player in the NFL right now. Christian McCaffrey is so good at football that he could make an all-white team beat an all-black team.
he's he he his mvp case takes it gets a huge bump because like a bunch of white dudes are walking around on the internet being like you forgot about christian mccaffrey i had a different thought initially my my first thought was patrick mahomes all-time quarterback yeah both sides or if you if there's a draft which could get very problematic very fast oh the whole thing would be i i Mahomes goes 1-1, just not so much so that you can have him, but also so the other side can't have him. The running back position, I like our chances with McCaffrey.
Yeah. Tight ends, again, I feel like we're stacked.
Stacked. I think Darren Waller would probably start.
We're stacked. For the black team.
We'd have Kittle, Kelsey, Hawkinson, Puporta. We'd get Taysom Hill in at fullback.
Taysom Hill. That'd be nice.
And then Tebow. Tebow would be great.
Dude, Tebow would ball out. You know who would ball out in this game would be the Boses.
Yeah. This would be the Boses.
And Riley Cooper. Riley Cooper, bring him back for one last round.
We'd have to recruit Julian Edelman to come back to play one game at cornerback for us. Yeah.
Otherwise, we're fucked. No, we need Cooper DeGene.
Cooper DeGene. And there was Riley Moss, who was also cornerback at Iowa, who's on the Broncos now.
We're basically playing Iowa football. We're just going to punt the ball.
Hoff in corner. Only fair way to do this.
Well, kicking is a huge advantage. Not as much as you think, because I crunched the numbers.
We got Justin Tucker, and then Justin Reed would be the kicker for the all-black black team he was the guy that made that field goal for the Texans in spot duty well no what about the uh oh yeah field goals we have the punter for the Steelers yeah Harvin for the Steelers would punt but Reed also is it Justin or Jason Reed one of the two anyways he I think he kicked a 60 yard field goal in practice for the Chiefs last year. So he's actually pretty good.

The real issue is at wide receiver.

Well, no.

We're pretty thin at wide receiver.

The real issue is our entire secondary.

It's a very fun hypothetical.

And I do think people, like the majority of the internet had fun with it.

There was a few people who were like, this is offensive.

Shut the fuck up.

It's a fun, stupid hypothetical that, like, you can't tell me that every NFL locker room hasn't had this debate before. Once you get to secondary, it's like, oh, man.
We're going to have to control the clock. We're going to have to run the ball, run the ball, run the ball.
I don't think we can be letting our defense out there for very long. That's what I mean when it comes to the wide receiver being the difference maker

because they're going to have Tyreek Hill.

Yeah.

And there's nobody that can guard Tyreek Hill in the NFL right now.

And now we're going to have to ask a college punt returner

to put the clamps on Tyreek Hill.

But you have to hit him at the line.

The other solution is they have to start Kadarius Toney. And then maybe we get a couple points off an interception off a drop pass.
You get pressure on the quarterback. Or just sack every play.
Yeah. I just don't think – yeah, our secondary would – we would – over two seconds, our secondary can't hold up.
Can't do it. You just got to play a deep, deep zone and just keep everything ahead of you and make them go down the field hoping they don't get sacked at least once.
It's like, we're going to have to get a lot of strip sacks. Yeah, play preventive defense.
And then on our defensive line, we've got a lot of good pass rushers. We've got TJ Watt, both Boses.
We have Max Crosby. We have Trey Hendrickson.
And not a lot of interior depth. Maybe Aiden Hutchinson can play in the tackle position.
What do we do about Vita Vey? I think there's a Samoan team as well. Okay, the Samoan team would probably win everything.
They would win everything, yeah, for sure. It was fun, though.
Fun hypothetical. And we also had Antonio Brown.
It was a day of Steelers just tweeting random things online. Yeah.
Antonio Brown said that hotel sex hit different. Not everywhere.
Not on the TV. Everywhere.
Everywhere. As one does.
Like you got to. I wouldn't put it past him if he was just like, hold on, babe.
I'm about to not get me the TV. Take it off the wall for me.
He probably watches porn and and he thinks that he's actually nutting on the person. His laptop is just covered in a thin film.
Yeah. At least he's not nutting on the remote control.
Yes. That would be worse.
TV's still weird. TV's still strange.
Still a little weird. But also, would you expect anything less? No.
He probably nuts on the TV when he's on TV. Yeah.
Watching his old highlights of stomping a Browns punter out. I like the fact that the debate was brought up by Rashard Mendenhall.
Yeah. And not say Toby Gerhardt.
Yeah. Or as you said, Riley Cooper.
Yeah. Or a white guy.
Will Compton. Or Will Compton initiating this debate.
Will's video was very funny. Yeah.
I'm happy to have this debate in like a fun way and not in a like serious way but there are some people getting very very serious and prideful yeah about who'd win that's why i'm saying they probably shouldn't ever play this game because the tailgate there and fights in the stands it would be bad this is if you want to destroy america this is how you start a civil war too yeah Yeah. No, people, and it's very funny too, people mansplaining like two other football players, like how could you even entertain this debate? Yeah.
Like someone was like, said to J.J. Watt, you're just ignoring the blatant racism for this.
God forbid a white guy stands up for himself. And J.J.
Watt was just like, dude, you don't need to be offended he said white guys can't play

football and i looked at myself in the mirror i was like wait i can play football he's like he's having fun on the internet yeah it's fun i also think can you imagine if they did college game day before the game and then lee corso put on the mascot head that'd be a problem that would be very funny yeah i would i would like that uh we should can we sim this game can we can we build the Chuck is our guy Chuck who works here.

I misread. So Chuck is actually getting married in a couple of weeks.
And I was scrolling through Twitter this morning and I saw Chuck's tweet saying anybody on here. Good with creating custom rosters for Madden need some help getting around salary cap issue.
DMs open. So I pulled Chuck in my office and I was like, literally was like, dude, like respect.
Like you're about to get married and all you care about is your fucking madden franchise he's like no i'm trying to make the roster yeah we should we should spend the game so he's on it i think what's the spread i think i have oh do we call it all blacks that's what he said that's also the new zealand rugby team yeah right it's a little confusing i'm going going to take the African American team and they're going to lay, uh, I'm going to say five.

Ah, He said. That's also the New Zealand rugby team.
Yeah, right. It's a little confusing.
I'm going to take the African-American team, and they're going to lay 25. No, I'm going to say 14 and a half.
I would say 12 and a half. If it gets to 14, I'm hammering the all-whites.
Yeah, no, I think the- Control the ball. Control the possession.
A weakness. A glaring weakness is a glaring weakness.
Yeah, no. It is.
It's also might have been- I don't know how like that. It's like it's all, you how.
It's funny to debate and hypothetical. Maybe there's ways to scheme it.
It might have also been Jason Sehorne just hitting Rashad Mendehal up and being like, here, just do this hypothetical real quick so everyone can remind everyone that I was the last white cornerback 20 years ago. Yeah, who's the coach? I feel like Belichick would be the natural fit, right? Yeah.
That's basically his wide receiver room anyway. I mean, Tomlin would definitely.
Tomlin, Mike McDaniel. Yeah.
People forget. Dan Campbell.
Is it a high-scoring game? It's a high-scoring game, man. I kind of want Dan Campbell, if it's one game, to unite all the players.
Yeah. Who are they going to listen to? I guess maybe Belichick, but.
Yeah. Dan Campbell would be a good leader, I think.

Just scream at it.

Because you have to sit down before the game and be like,

nobody believes in you.

Right.

No one.

And do you think it'd be high scoring, Jake?

I would say the total would be like 52.

Yeah.

So you can't say a couple things if you're talking about betting on this game. You can't say, I'm going to hammer the all-black team.
And you can't say, white team wins in a shootout. You can't do that.
I think you can say that. White team wins in a shootout.
Yeah, maybe just delete that one. No, I mean, listen, it's all in context.
We're talking about football. Yeah, we're talking about football.
Yeah. We're talking about football right now.
It's fun hypothetical. Mendenhall, out of nowhere.
Mendenhall's got some all-time tweets, too. Yeah, he does.
Remember when Bin Laden died? Yeah. He tweeted out, like, it's funny to see a lot of you guys celebrating a man's death.
There's two sides to every story. Yeah.
Let's wait for all the facts to come out on this guy, Bin Laden.

Even Will.

I mean, Will played in the league, so it's like people that get mad at him,

it's like, I played in the league, this is what we talk about.

And Mendenhall just tweeting a picture of him with the Super Bowl.

Actually, it wasn't a Super Bowl.

Mendenhall tweeted.

It was an AFC championship?

People were yelling at him about like, hey, you haven't done shit.

Oh, no.

And then he tweeted out a picture to dunk on people of him

holding the AFC championship trophy in the air.

And then a lot of people were responding with his fumble in the Super Bowl,

which is Oh, no. And then he tweeted out a picture to dunk on people of him holding the AFC championship trophy in the air.
And then a lot of people were responding with his fumble in the Super Bowl, which was caused by one of the all-pro whites, Clay Matthews. Okay, the only other thing I had before we get to Hot Seat, Cool Throne, I got a little QB column A, column B, blind resume.
you want to do it yeah okay you ready first 48 career starts record for qb uh 120 and 28 record for qb2 19 and 29 passer rating for uh qb1 85.5 passer rating for qb2 85.4 pretty much the same pass touchdowns interception 55-35 55-33 both had 12,000 yards both 6.7 yards per attempt who's QB1 who's QB2 I think they were pretty even, right? Yes.

Almost exactly.

Yes.

Hmm.

I'm going to say the two QBs.

Yes.

Not in each order.

Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields.

No.

Okay.

Trevor Lawrence and Daniel Jones.

But I also saw the Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields one going around. And my point is Trevor Lawrence is starting to feel the heat.
He is a little. He's starting to get blind resume-ed a lot.
He is. I still think he'll be fine, but we have the expectation for Trevor Lawrence because he never lost.
Never lost before. And Trevor Lawrence gets the benefit of playing in Jacksonville.
Media not as harsh, and also the Jaguars are – I don't I'm like being hurtful to Jaguars fans a loser organization so he gets a little bit more leeway but once you see the blind resumes it's like uh-oh here comes the narrative changing shifting on you it's like the first sign if you if you see a random blind resume for your quarterback you got to stop yourself and be like wait a second why are why are a bunch of accounts doing this why am i getting blind resume yeah uh trevor lawrence when when he was brought into the league they asked him about playing in a small market he had a great answer for it he said actually jacksonville is the biggest market if you're talking about total area of the city he's a weird dude it's got more miles in it than the other nfl city yeah he's a strange guy he's a strange Strange guy. I think he should get a neck tattoo.
Just become his brother slowly? Well, no. His brother's more like artsy fartsy.
Yeah. He's like an artist.
Oh, you're thinking neck tattoo as in like- Hard. Like a mechanic.
Yeah. Neck tattoo.
I used to sell cars with a guy who had a neck tattoo, and his neck tattoo just said the word money on it right across the front of his neck. I like that.
That's tough if you're going to a car dealership and you're like, I hope I don't get fucked over by a salesman on this deal. And he has a neck tattoo that says money going across.
I like that a lot. I like that a lot.
But yeah, Trevor Lawrence, the first time you get blind resume, I'm just saying. It's always the sign that something's up.
It's like a squirrel with like a fluffy tail, and you're like, we're going to have a bad winter. Yeah.
A blind resume is like, hey, the narrative is shifting here. He might also just need to cut his hair.
Could cut his hair. No long-haired quarterback has ever won a Super Bowl.
People forget that. Also, when you're doing a blind resume, if you're doing the silhouettes with Trevor Lawrence, you can spot Trevor Lawrence by the way.
It's like that flow that's Trevor Lawrence. Yes.
Okay. Let's do Hot Seat, Cool Throne.
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Hank, Hatsi Kultrop. My Hatsi's M.
Rata. Okay.
Bonk. Who's that? Emily Ratajowski.
She's an actress, podcaster. Don't be dumb.
Don't play dumb. I'm not familiar with the game.
She had kind of like standing courtside tickets to Knicks games wherever she wanted to go. She would get comp courtside tickets.
She left. They had a comeback 21-point win against the Heat.
Wait, she was on the wood? She was on the wood. She left in the middle of the game.
Loves touching the wood. In the middle of a comeback.
And then she tried to get tickets for a Rangers game, and she was told she could not get comp tickets. She could not get comp tickets for Rangers or Knicks games, but she could buy tickets whenever she wants.
Okay, so I kind

of respect James Dolan for...

James Dolan is petty. He's the pettiest.
He's the

pettiest person in the entire world. He bans

everybody. He had facial recognition

software put in on the security cameras

and then people's pictures that he had

personally banned from games upload

to the system so they'd be able to tell

when they were in his building. Cat killer.

Cat... What? Remember? Yeah, Rappaport.
Oh, okay i thought you said james dolan killed a cat no no not that we know of he flipped out though so yeah and charles oakley yep and all of us actually yeah yeah so me and big cat were going to host a show at one of his properties in new york had nothing to do with the garden. And, uh, Dolan got word of it and was like,

Nope,

they're not welcome inside these doors.

Yeah.

No,

he's a petty king.

It was the thing with the standup trying to find a venue too.

Cause he like owns all the places in Vegas.

That's why we couldn't book the sphere.

Right.

There's also a chance he just might be doing like,

Oh,

yeah.

The sphere.

I would just give out mushrooms to everyone.

What if we,

what if we got the sphere and we turn the entire picture into just that one post-workout pic of hell? Incredible. Incredible.
He also, James Dolan, just might be doing a fifth grade be mean to the hot girl thing. It's good work.
Yeah. Put gum in her hair.
You're not allowed here anymore. I'm sorry.
He has a boys club. now i'm ratta is like oh man james dolan he's so mean to me but like it's kind of funny yeah every other guy in the world is trying to get me onto their wood yeah and james dolan is throwing me off as well yes yes yeah and then game and then in like a week you have a a walk back where you're like you know what we're gonna're going to unban Imrat from this building.
And then it's going to be Imrat night. And I'm going to have to host.
And so I'm going to show you all around, take you on a tour of the facilities. Yeah.
Listen, I'm coming around a little bit on old James Dolan. He is funny.
His kazoo band is not the worst kazoo band I've ever heard in my life. He's one of those owners that you would never want to be your owner but from afar he's very funny yeah yeah uh then my cool throne it was it was healthy debate with the all white there's all black team i also john moran is back oh yeah that was going to be my i i tried to find apparently they don't have offers or like markets for nba comeback player of the, but I was curious if he was on there.
What's he coming back from? Guns. From having a gun.
Addicted to guns. He loves guns.
He does. Yeah.
I'm rooting for him. Yeah.
It's a very simple process. He should come back.
All he has to do is not be filmed in an Instagram live holding a gun. I'm rooting for him to play well, come back, everything go well.
I'm also kind of rooting for him to flash another gun on Instagram. It's funny.
It's funny to me. It's kind of the James Dolan thing where like, it's kind of funny.
If he just keeps going, it gets funnier and fun. Like a bigger gun.
Right. It was RPG.
It was it was like, oh, this is a problem the first couple of times. And then it was like, wait, he literally can't stop doing this.
Now it's kind of funny. I think I don't want anyone to get hurt.
Pulls out a brewing. Yeah.
It would be great if he just became a big Second Amendment guy. Yeah.
And he was doing I mean, he's already already doing, like, the front-facing car selfie videos. Right, if he's just like, these are my rights.
He openly says, like, I'm here to protect myself and my rights. As the good Lord gave us in the Second Amendment.
Yeah, I don't want him shooting anyone. I don't want anyone to get hurt.
I just want him to just, like, keep making all the NBA, like, writers have, and, like, people online have a serious talk about John Morant

holding a gun. Also, hasn't John

Morant done more to raise awareness

about gun safety and the dangers of gun use

than every NBA player that

hasn't shown a gun on Instagram Live multiple times?

Facts. We're having the conversation because of John

Morant. We are.
Also, you see

the Lakers put up a

banner. So that's going to be my

Oh shit. Sorry.
So far I've had three be my – Oh, shit. Sorry.
Sorry.

So far I've had three of my hot seats cool through.

That's okay.

That's all right.

Do you have bowl game collapses on there?

I had that.

No.

I didn't have mine, but I saw ODU.

ODU was up 28-0 and lost.

They were not only up 28-0.

Western Kentucky put in their third stringers,

and they blew a 28-0 lead and then got a field goal blocked in regulation with like three minutes left.

And then in overtime, ODU was on the one-yard line, couldn't score,

then got a penalty.

They got another field goal blocked.

It was bowl games.

I might be out of bowl games.

I love bowl games, and I say this, and I'll probably bet it tonight. I love bowl games, but it causes so much pain this time of year to watch these teams play.
It means nothing in the swings, the ups and downs. It was quite an experience.
It was right at like 4 o'clock when you're like, I shouldn't be watching this bowl game. I have way too much money riding on players I don't know and transfer portals everyone's i'm probably gonna take uh let's see marshall tonight i'm in a weird situation this year where now i have i have a can't miss bowl game with my team for the first time ever yeah and it's happening like was it saturday that's the 23rd gonna be around family they had to deal with the excuse of, hey, I need to be checked out of this family get-together because my team is playing in a bowl game before.
Do you need them to- JMU is different, though, than work. Do you need them to- Yeah.
At least you have to be like it's an NFL, or it's a little easier to be on my college team, bowl game. Do you need them to talk to my entire family because that's all- Wisconsin games? No, every game.
No, but I mean like. Literally every game.
I'm like, I can't. I'm sorry, guys.
I'm gambling on bowl game. You are a good example of like, this could be way worse.
Yeah. No.
All my memories of like this two-week stretch in the calendar is just like what bowl games happen yeah sorry i'm going home for only

two and a half days one of which i'm gonna be watching a jmu game and then i'm flying back

on christmas day to do the part of my take podcast it could be so much worse and then just have a

live stream of big cat just gambling the entire week yeah yeah that's that's not a bad strategy

actually yeah i mean listen i love this time of year i hate this time of year but i love this

time of year pfc there's also nfl saturday so you could say it's work. There you go.
NFL Saturday is work, but then I'm good. But then now I'm going to have to go to a place that has two TVs.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. This is going to be, I'm going to have to pull an all time, just excuse type of weekend.
I'm going to have to be on my a game. Okay.
What do you got your hot seat your hot seat My hot seat is the University of Georgia Because they lost Star quarterback Dylan Riola And he committed yesterday To the University of Nebraska So the Cornhuskers are back The Georgia fans didn't do a very good job Of preventing his plane From taking off from Athens and flying up to Lincoln, Nebraska. So he was able to commit to Nebraska.
And then he announces his intention with an all-time poem. Did you read his poem? Yeah, it was kind of like Andrew Dice Clay without any offensive things in it.
You kept waiting for him to be like, oh. Yeah, read it because I thought it was a joke when a joke yeah I saw I did too I thought it was a troll in the realm of college dreams where purpose takes flight I don't know what that means purpose taking flight yeah sounds like a Sean McVay or Sean McDermott preseason speech mm-hmm enter Dylan Rayola crafting his narrative in the night once lured by Georgia powerhouse glory gleamed.
That's good alliteration right there. Yeah.
Yet Nebraska's purpose in his heart brightly beamed. This is so like.
In the Scarlet and Cream. Is that what they're called? Scarlet and Cream? Nebraska's the Scarlet and Cream? What? Are they? That's hilarious.
Scarlet and Cream. In the Scarlet and Cream.
That's the cover of the Metallica Loda album is actually Scarlet and Cream. It is Scarlet, Cream, and Lighter Cream.
Okay. Lighter Cream.
Oh, even a Lighter Cream. They got two creams.
If you have two creams, do you have one? Scarlet and Cream is not invoke like battle. It does not.
In the Scarlet and Cream, where legacies entwine, Dylan, like Rogers, Rozier, and Crouch, a not in the scarlet and cream where legacies entwine dylan like rogers roger and crouch a hero in the line no longer a cog in some powerhouse machine but a quarterback with an even grander ambition unseen what the fuck is this so fellow fans await with hope in the air for dylan to choose his purpose to declare in a weekend's decision, destiny calls to fulfill his purpose where a new dynasty enthralls. This sounds like a ninth grade poetry concept.
It's so crazy. AP lit.
Yeah. Analyzing all the types of poems.
He's already a bust in my eyes. I also think that- I'm happy for Nebraska fans, but you can't be feeling good about that poem.
Yeah. I don't know.
I feel like he wrote this poem using rhymingdictionary.com to figure out what rhymes with calls to fulfill his purpose where a new dynasty enthralls. What does enthralls mean, Hank? Enthralls.
Makes you curious. It excites you.
Exciting. I'm enthralled.
Yeah. You're intrigued.
Capture the fascinated attention of. Can a new dynasty enthrall? Yeah.
Also, how are you going to have a dynasty in today's college football? You're going to be in a transfer next year. No, that means he's got to stay for at least two seasons.
If we're doing Dynas free. Yeah.
I was good for Nebraska. I'm not trying to shit on Nebraska.
I'm happy. I want Nebraska to be good.
That poem ruined it all for me. Yeah.
The minute I saw the poem, I was like, what is going on? It's a tough poem. It's very corny.
But that's actually good for Nebraska. Yeah.
And I think we're just getting old because it's like all the top. It's like Caleb Williams.
he cries. It's like all this stuff is so goofy, but then it's like he's the number one recruit.
This is the number one recruit. It's so goofy, but maybe it's just us.
Is he a warrior poet? I miss the days when a guy would just sit on a local telecast and do the fake reach for this hat, then take the other one, and that would be it. They could have just done a haiku and made it quicker.
5-7-5. They could have just not done that.
They could have just said he's going to Nebraska. Everyone was excited about it.
Yeah, he could have literally said, I want to play football for the Nebraska Cornhuskers and Matt Rule. Yeah.
Go Big Red. That's actually a great poem.
Yes. Go Big Red is a perfect poem.
Yes. Go Big Red.
Okay. Your cool throne? My cool throne is Banner Talk.
Banner Talk in the NBA. The Los Angeles Lakers unveiled their in-season tournament championship banner last night.
They unveiled it amongst the NBA championship banners that they have hanging up at the Staples Center, whatever they called it now. It's always a Staples Center to me.
I'm like Bill Plasky. Yeah.
I think it's crypto. Is it really really i think it's something else now oh yeah they change it again it was the crypto crypto cell it's the staple center no it is crypto yeah the heat change there crypto.com a crypto type uh so a lot of people are talking about whether or not there should be a banner whether or not it should be unveiled in season whether or not the in-season tournament should be something to be this proud of.
I actually have a solution for this because I think that if you're Adam Silver, you want your players to celebrate the in-season tournament because then it means next year's in-season tournament will be taken more seriously. Yes.
There should just be one banner. Ooh.
And the team that wins it should get to have it in their arena for the remainder of that year into next year where they have to give it up and another team then gets to possess that banner because you can't have like every nba team eventually having an in-season tournament banners yeah it's also it's good for the league that the lakers won the first one because if it was the pacers that won the first one then next year if there's a team that's historically not great that wins it then it's almost like you don't want to win yeah it's like a joke of a banner but having just one banner that gets passed around i think is the way out of this one i think it should just be like a it shouldn't be a banner it should be like a large patch that way if you do win the actual title you can put the patch on the real banner okay so it's like almost like a uh girl scout yeah i like adding some some some flair or you get it on your jersey yeah you get to wear the patch on your jersey yeah like something like that like because it shouldn't be a full banner yeah that was the only thing i didn't like like banners are banner like those should be raised for real reasons like if you're retiring a number or you win a title this one should be or if you're the cults and you finish you know second in the afc south those are the type of things you raise banners for this should be like a yeah a patch that can be added to a banner so every team has a banner and then you have to earn the patches every team should actually raise a banner for where they finish in that season and then you add a patch if you won the in-season tournament actually what about what about this? It would be funny if you had to raise a last place,

like the Pistons had to raise a six-win banner.

I like where you're at in terms of shaming teams for not being well.

What if every team that didn't win had to raise a banner that said,

NBA in-season tournament loser?

Yeah, and it's a picture of Mac's face.

Yeah.

He says, I am a loser.

Yeah, every team.

The winner doesn't even get anything.

They just get the right to not have a loser banner.

Oh,

Thank you. season tournament loser yeah and it's a picture of max face yeah he says i am a loser just yeah every team the winner doesn't even get anything yeah you just get the right to not have a loser banner i like that i like that too yeah or just a giant l yeah yep okay i think we just solved it yeah shaming teams should be more in vogue i do like it the pistons next year should have to raise a banner being like we won four games yeah i mean a banner at the end of the day is a participation trophy that you get for not winning.

Right, right.

I also shouldn't talk about the Pistons because, you know, fun fact.

Not losing.

The Pistons have been over .500 for more days this year than the Bulls.

So one.

I think it's like two days.

The Pistons beat the Bulls to go to 2-1, and the Bulls are 1-2. I don't think the Pistons have won since yeah they haven't what are they 24 losing streak yeah 25 2 and 25 really they're technically two and one the Wizards owe the Pistons a giant thank you card giant thank you card it's it's like you don't have to be faster than the Tiger you just have to be faster than the guy that's running against you against Tiger.
Did you see that Jordan Poole highlight the other night? It's awesome. Jordan Poole, listen, buying league pass this year for Wizards highlights has been the best investment of my life.
Jordan Poole, for people who missed it, there was like 40 seconds left and he was going to chuck up a three. He flopped after the chucked up three, like trying to get a call, no call.
Then the Wizards stole the ball back. He got the ball back like three seconds later and then slipped where he had flopped and fallen down on the floor.
And it was like instant karma. Oh, don't lie.
Yeah. All right.
My hot seat is us. Boys, we've done it again.
Swifties are back after us. So this comes from TikTok user BookBDanny.
Shout out. She's a listener.
She's AWL. I'll take AWLs any way they come.
So she had this analysis of our discussion about Taylor Swift and the F word on Monday's show. I'll play it for you.
This is from her TikTok. I showed Taylor Swift up in the box, and she used the F word.

Yep.

Loudly.

Yep.

And you have to wonder, like, is that the kind of girl that we want as the face of the

NFL?

Nope.

I don't think so.

Yeah, as a father of a Swiftie, I think I'm going to have to ban it now.

I mean, it's disgusting.

My son did actually say fuckhead the other day, and I had him tell me it again because I wanted to laugh. And then I was like, don't ever fucking say that.
I have no words. Absolutely no words for this.
Like, if I even have to explain why that was so disgustingly misogynistic and hypocritical and double standard, I have no hope for humanity. Okay, first of all.
If she has to even explain. First of all, it's misogynic.
Yeah. And right off the bat, you're telling me not very educated mispronouncing that word.
Second of all, she didn't really refute our point. No, she said- Which was that Taylor Swift- Don't make me.
Taylor Swift taught your son how to use the F word. And now your son is probably going to get kicked out of preschool.
Yep. And it's because of swift yes she's a bad example for all of us miss swift it also was very funny that she she listened to that as it was dead serious and then heard me tell a story about my son saying the f-word of me saying i had to have him repeat it so i could laugh and then told him to never fucking do it again.
And she couldn't connect the two.

Right.

That was really galaxy brain shit.

Yeah, listen.

She was like, I'm going to take them seriously here.

And then I just, wow.

The NFL, they cannot deal with the face of the league saying cuss words.

No.

The NFL, the shield is about more than that. It's about integrity.
It's about covering up concussion usage. And it's about a lot of other stuff.
But it's not about swearing in front of kids. That's a bad example for the children.
I think that Taylor Swift should be banned from all NFL games. Yes.
And broadcast. Yes.
Until she goes to rehab to try to get off her addiction to cussing. And there was some people in the comments saying like, oh, but Mahomes swears.
I've never seen him swear. I've never seen him swear.
Never. I've never seen a coach swear.
There's no room for swearing in sports. Listen, watch Hard Knocks and you watch how the coaches talk to their players.
Right. They're setting a good example.
They're trying to teach them the power of positive reinforcement. There's no shaming.
That's why we like watching that stuff and the NFL. It's the one place in America that we can go to escape the Taylor Swifts of the world.
They should slap the parental advisory. She should have to get a parental advisory tattoo on her arm until she can prove to herself and to us and to children that she's a good role model i can't even i don't i don't have i don't even like don't even make me explain why her saying the f word is problematic i can't i don't want to do it do you know what the f word stands for in the history of the f word i can't i i don't even want to do it if you don't know already then i don't have the energy to explain that to you for free yeah do you know how many people have been f-worded a lot yeah you sit listen f-wording is trauma right yeah because the world is overpopulated and guess how all these people have gotten here f-word f-wording you know there was a guy in germany that rose to power in the 1920s and 30s and he was there because his parents f-worded global warming global warming well no taylor swift doesn't care about that she has a private chat true yeah i'm okay with private chat yeah i am too go on queen be mother we're actually we're the biggest taylor existence.
Yes. Because we want Taylor to succeed, and she's got a bunch of cronies out there that apologize and make excuses for her foul language and her potty mouth, and all we want Taylor to do is to be a great role model because she's, honestly, she's better than that.
Do you know what it is? It's like, I'm not trying to tell Taylor Swift what to do. She's a grown-ass woman.
She can slay queen all she wants. What I'm trying to say is there is no place for swearing at a football game in the stands.
Like, come on. This is a place where people are supposed to come together in sport, enjoy each other.
You see Cowboys and Eagles fans hand-in-hand watching their teams go, and at the end of the game, they shake hands and they say, great game, fella, and they walk away. That's what happened.
Did you see the Army-Navy game? Yeah. Those guys at the end of the day, they're all for a common goal.
They don't hate each other going into the game. They're there to watch good football.
And not only is it the cussinging but it's also the alcohol use that taylor swift has brought into football they made a point of not showing fans ever consuming alcohol on screen at in the games until taylor swift gets up there with her cran soda and she's just she's slurping it down for all of america to see now all of her kids are walking and being like oh i want to drink they think it's called a taylor swift they think that drinking is called, oh, I'm swifting. No, it's not.
Okay. And it's not fun.
And millions of people die every year because of alcohol. And to have Taylor Swift glorifying that and swearing on national TV in the same season.
I just think she's so much better than that. Yeah.
Well, is she though? I don't even want to talk about it. I don't want to explain it if she is or not.
We don't have the words. Yeah uh make sure you clip all this so that we can put it out uh last thing about this um i really just loved the idea that maybe this woman listens and she's like got him again or got him again she might be doing a double troll oh that thought occurred to me this morning when i watched the second time and i was like maybe she's just like the biggest awl of all oh so far in on it touche our hats off the the comments i i feel like it's more likely than that because who's like it's one thing when people see clips like the whole the whole first thing happened because of a clip and that with algorithms and stuff it might just get fed to you if you're not a fan if you're listening to a podcast feed the way that she was in the video yeah how do you get there if you don't understand satire do we make a clip of it the best oh she was the video she had it was her yeah she's yeah that's what i'm saying so it wasn't taken she didn't like that's what i'm saying i think i think it's more likely that she's there trolling us it's more likely than that than her listening and not understanding satire right if but i listen i watched her other videos i don't maybe someone sent it to her it was that was that was my.
It was like, the first thing, if it's a clip, that happens. Clips get taken out of context all the time.
That's social media. But to be on listening, as if she was listening to it regularly.
Yeah. And then to Big Cat's point, it was like, gotcha.
If she was actually trolling us, I would want to maybe hire her. Because I think that would be a very funny addition to the show to have somebody whose entire job is to get pissed off at things that we say out of context and to go viral being like these guys are the worst yeah that would be the best marketing we could ever have oh wait dave did just chime in i love it he uh all the comments section was like being like i can't believe Dave Hire employs these guys.

He's got a comment on it.

He literally just tweeted pervert my take back up to their usual misogynistic tricks.

It's crazy how threatened they are by females watching football.

Oh, this is great.

It's so great.

Pervert my take.

Pervert my take.

Hard on my take.

Yeah.

Man, the F word. Not here.
Not now. Not ever.
Agreed. He loves pervert my take.
Loves it. He thinks it's the funniest thing ever.
Did he come up with that? Yeah. Yeah.
But all you got to do is hit him back with the Davey Democrat and he'll shut up. Yeah.
Dave, I regret to inform you that Dave Portnoy has gone woke. Davey Democrat trying to police language yet again.
Yeah, this is sad.

Okay. Oh, wait.
I have a cool throne.

No, I don't. It was Nebraska.

Dylan Riala. We all just took each other's

repeatedly. Yeah, we did.

Jake. My hot seat is the mayor of

New York City. Yes.

Eric Adams. This guy's quite something.

I think I love this guy now.

Yeah, so he was asked on PIX11

local news, describe 2023 in one word.

Every day you wake up. Mr.
Mayor, we've come to the end of what was a very eventful 2023, right? So when you look at the totality of the year, if you had to describe it and it's tough to do in one word, what would that word be? And tell me why. New York.
this is a place where every day you wake up

you could experience everything from a

plane crashing into our trade center to a person who's celebrating a new business that's open. This is a very, very complicated city and that's why it's the greatest city on the globe.
Mr. Mayor.
So that's quite a take. No reason why I need to add that he's on the hot seat.
Yeah. No, I think.
Multiple words. This is just kind of.
He's new. Yeah.
I think it's like Eric Adams is not on the hot seat because this is kind of what Eric Adams is. Yeah.
And he's just basically a guy that seems like he has a head injury that gets paraded in front of the media every now and again. Just says like, you know, I think a lot of things are true at the same time in this city, and you have to appreciate all points of view.
Thank you. This has been Mayor Adams.
That's kind of what he does. Quite a quote.
I mean, cheering on a business. Mask death.
Plane goes into the towers. One and the same.
Yeah. That's what makes this city great.
Yeah. You take the good with the bad.
Two words for a one-word answer. Yeah.
Yeah. You don't really have to do anything to be mayor of New York.
That's what I've realized from living there. Because everyone's going to hate you no matter what.
So the best strategy is to just not do anything. Yeah.
Yeah, not even live there. Yeah.
Didn't Eric Adams not live there? He lived in New Jersey. Yeah, he had like a fake apartment in Brooklyn.
Yeah. i think i would be a great mayor of new york i think i really would i wouldn't do shit yeah you got to just be like uh you know a couple free concerts here and there maybe a a some kind of new like drone robot police dog yeah they hire an exterminator for like 200k yeah yeah i would hire more on the rats i'll get like robo yeah on the rats i'll get robo cop to patrol the sewers yeah and just destroy all the i would probably bring what eats rats snakes i would just dump a rats eat i would dump cheese i would dump a fuck load isn't that obvious i would dump a fuck load of snakes into the sewers and be like solve the rat problem yeah then i would build a beach on the hudson river and be like go to the beach it's fun now new york has everything no i'd build a i would put a bunch of a shitload of snakes into the uh sewer system get all the rats and then i would get all the irish people to dress up in kilts and then go beat the snakes off the island and then we have st patrick's day too i think no matter what in new york you it's impossible to have an approval rating as mayor of over 50%.
Yeah. No.
Unless the teams are winning. Someone has to do the job.
Yeah, but they don't. I know.
Yeah. Ever.
It's kind of crazy at this point. Do you think if the Yankees...
Giuliani, he wasn't there. Like, was the peak of...
Giuliani wasn't there. Was the peak of the New York...
And people loved him because it was like... Yeah, the Yankees.
The peak of New York sports in the last five years was that DeVito and Zach Wilson won Offensive Player of the Week at the same week. They're a joke.
I think so. Two teams of the city.
Oh, Judge 6-2. Oh, Jesus.
Hang the banner, Jake. Jesus.
Most home runs ever. No, he's a home run champion.
Officially he's not. Okay, what's your cool throne, Jake? My cool throne is my alma mater, Syracuse football.
They are having arguably the best offseason in all of college football. What about Kyle McCord? Okay, what about Nebraska? Okay, but is it – now this is a debate that we're going to have in the transfer portal.
Is a player who's not good good because he went to a better team? Well, I think people are trashing Kyle McCord because he had Ohio State standards. At Syracuse, if you go 9-3, that's amazing.
You know, he wasn't good, though. But he went 11-1.
Yeah, their defense did very well, and he wasn't good. Marvin Harrison.
Marvin Harrison.

Great player.

Great family. But it's exciting.

Again, Syracuse standards.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, are you excited about this being the best offseason

because you've got a player who used to be highly recruited?

Yeah, you know his name.

Yeah, five-star.

Yeah, we've got a five-star guy.

Yeah, that's fair.

Listen, if you're Syracuse, you should celebrate this, but Jake,

I don't know if you should say that you've had the best offseason

of any program.

In my book.

Okay.

Yeah, you can have a book.

Yeah.

You can have a book.

Thank you. If you're Syracuse, you should celebrate this, but Jake, I don't know if you should say that you've had the best offseason of any program.

In my book.

Okay.

Yeah, you can have a book.

Yeah.

You can have a book.

Yeah, no.

There's been some teams.

I will not have a book. Ole Miss literally has everyone.

Come to the sip.

We're in train.

Fucking killing it.

Okay.

Should we get to our interview?

We've got, let's start with Colt McCoy, and then we have Sean Stilato in studio. All protein bars generally taste the same, but not one bars.
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Get you on, talk a little NFL, talk a little college football. And let's start there.
Is Texas back? Hey, I tell you what, it's been fun to watch them this year because they've won a lot of close games. And then, you know, you always want to play good down the stretch.

And, you know, games that we felt like they probably should have blown the guys out, they, you know, maybe struggled with,

but they ultimately found a way to win.

And towards the end of the season, I told everyone around me,

like, these guys are playing great.

The Iowa State game, you know, on the road,

that kind of was a trap game, you know, came back home,

handled Texas Tech, played good in the big touch. I mean, they're just, they're trending up, in my opinion.
Yeah. And that's a great place to be.
Yeah. And on the other side, you've got Alabama also trending up.
Have you allowed yourself – you can't look ahead, can't look past any opponents. Have you allowed yourself to think about potential revenge game, rematch, Alabama-Texas in the national championship game? Mine hasn't gone there fully yet, but that would be awesome.
That would be incredible. I think for the fans, I think for everybody in Texas, we felt good going into that game back in 2009.
Yeah, you had it. But for now, it's like got to get through Washington, but that would be awesome.
I mean, and it would be in our backyard, right? Right there in Houston. Yeah, you had a great team back then.
I was in Austin at the time. I remember how electric the feeling was in Texas for that little run.
But are you ready and at a point in life to admit that the clock operator screwed up when you were playing against Nebraska and that you shouldn't have had time left to kick a field goal? Can we say that for all the Nebraska fans out there, the Huskers? Do you apologize to them? The amount of Nebraska teammates I've had throughout my career in the NFL that won't look at me the first time they see me, it's a high number. The Will Comptons of the world.
But I think we all learned the ball has to hit the ground for the clock to stop. And I got lucky that the ball hit whatever it was the side of the bleachers or the ground or you know i i wouldn't have been able to tell you that rule before you know if they tell you to throw the ball away they say you know throw it in the nickel seats or or whatever and now now everybody knows when the ball hits the ground that's when the clock clock stops or whatever.
How, how more importantly from that game, how scary was, was the Gamma to Sue and going up against him? Because that, that was a season that he was, he should have won the Heisman. He was like the best player in college football by a large margin, but going up against him, like he dominated that game.
He dominated every game he played in. Was it scary going up against him being like, there's nothing my guys can do in front of me.
He's, I just know that at least like five or six times, I'm going to have to have him running after me again. Yeah.
You know, we, we had played pretty good that year. We were actually, in my opinion, better in 2008 than we were in 2009.
But in 2009, it was like, there's a lot of new players a lot of young receivers um but we we found ways to to win and leading into that game we we had been playing good we blew out a&m the week before um and i we all heard about indomitian sue right you you hear about him all year but you don't really know how good he was until you got out on the field and played against him and we tried to to double team him. It wasn't working.
They were constantly in the backfield. But if you did double team him, you know, his running buddy, Jared Crick, on the other side was like making plays too, right? So, I mean, their defensive game plan against us that day, we couldn't do anything.
We dropped a couple touchdowns early in the game that would have made a big difference. But, you know, we got the ball late and found a way to go down and get a field goal and sneak out of there, but that was not a fun game, I promise.
Yeah, they beat you up pretty good in that game. I remember watching it.
Going back to just growing up with the name Colt McCoy, did you know from a young age that your parents just wanted you very much to be a quarterback? Well, I was fortunate because my dad was my high school football coach, right? We lived in small towns out in West Texas, and having him as my coach was awesome, right? And so I didn't know if I was ever going to have the chance to go play college football. In fact, I didn't get recruited until very, very late.
I thought I was going to go play college basketball. That's what I wanted to do.
And then we had a pretty good team at my small West Texas high school. And we won a bunch of games kind of my junior and senior year.
And like right before my senior year started, I ended up going to one of those one day mini camps, schools have now, or they did back then and kind of started on the side of the field where, you know, it was just kind of not that great of players. And then by the end of the day, you kind of end up in the section where there's the good players.
And all of a sudden people were like, where are you from? What's your name? And, and that's kind of how it happened. I got recruited late and kind of snuck in the UT.
I think everybody was disappointed they didn't get Ryan Perlou or Mark Sanchez.

Those were the two guys in my class. And then, you know, the best thing that ever happened to me was I redshirted

and was able to sit in the meetings and be at practice and run scout team the year that we won the national championship in 05 with Vince Young.

And then, you know, and then I had to earn my way after that. You fought off competition every year at UT.
It's how it is. And ended up getting to play for four years, which has been a huge blessing.
Yeah. I just remember seeing the name Colt McCoy and I thought to myself, it's just that man's destiny that he's the starting quarterback at the University of Texas.
You can't have Colt McCoy on your roster and be like, I think that's QB2. I know you earned it, but the

name alone, that was...

You were always going to be the quarterback. Was it a nickname

that was given to you? Because your real name's Dan? I didn't know

you were allowed to do that. My name's Dan.

No, it's my middle name.

For whatever reason, everyone in my family

has gone by their middle names. All the guys

in my family. That's smart.
I don't know.

I didn't know I was allowed to do that. I would have been a Colt.

Yeah, everybody. Fuck.

So sick. Colt is an

all-time name. You can't be mad at

Thank you. in my family smart i don't know i didn't know i was allowed to do that i would have been a cult yeah everybody like cult is so sick cult is an all-time name just you can't be mad at cult that's just cult being cult yeah hey are you are you officially retired you know um after last season i ended up i had an elbow surgery and i fought through it man i practiced I worked hard.
I, you know, OTAs and training training camp, I managed it and things. And when I got released by the Cardinals, it's not at the point where I feel really good about it.
I'm working through it. I certainly have had opportunities and taken a lot of calls.
But it's just still's just still bothering me, dude. So, we'll see.

Yeah, because you are a quintessential and I hope you don't take this the wrong way

because being in the NFL for as long as you are

is very hard to do, but you are the

quintessential guy who can go win us a game.

Like, oh, let's give Colt McCoy a call.

Like, in a

pinch, he can go win you a game.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

You know, I

certainly had a lot of opportunities in the NFL my whole time. Played 14 years.
You know, sort of my Achilles heel has been when I've had the opportunity to kind of like grab it by the reins. I've had an injury.
I've gotten hurt. Yeah.
Which is frustrating. And this last time, dude, I was fighting and fighting and fighting.
And it's just these elbows are nagging man they you know you know i understand the game at this point 14 years in kind of what it takes you know for me for my family and you know i certainly you know would love to get back in i just my elbow's not feeling great yeah that sucks did uh was one of those calls that you got this year from a team that's in new york and green? Yeah, that was early on, right? Like, that happened, you know, golly, what a bummer. I'm a huge Aaron Rodgers fan.
I mean, like, the whole time I've been in the NFL, like, I've had the chance to watch him, play against him. And golly, like, what a bummer that was, you know, a couple plays in or whatever for that to happen to not only him, but to the Jets.
Right. They were that was going to be a cool story.
Yeah. Yeah.
So this year in the NFL feels like we've had a lot of injuries, a lot of backup quarterbacks. You've you've backed up some guys.
You've obviously started a lot of games. what's the one thing that we don't understand about being a backup quarterback that like when a guy comes in and doesn't isn't successful right away and we shit on him like we've got it wrong? Because I think maybe even it's just not getting the snaps.
How much that actually matters? Like how much does that actually matter if you're not getting first team reps in training camp? You know, as the season starts, then you're just thrust in there. Yeah.
I mean, listen, everyone thinks being a backup quarterback is a glorious job, right? You get paid and you don't have to play much, you don't have to put your body through the, through the ringer. Um, and you know, that, that is a lot of that is true.
I, you know, everybody wants to play though. Right.
And so I think for me, um, you know, the years that I've been a backup uh in the NFL it's just you you you work hard like you work harder you're there earlier you're there later because you're you know I used to always like to give you know whoever the starter was like a lot of my notes like things that I've the extra time that I've put in like I see them doing this on these situations, right? And that helped the guy in front of me, but that also helped me, right? Because you never know at what point you're going to get put in. And I always wanted to be the guy that if I was put in that situation, like everybody knew I was ready to go.
And, you know, that's not easy to do. It requires a lot.
And I think you look look across the league there's some guys who are doing it really well right now right Jake Browning in Cincinnati like coming off the bench and playing as well as he has Gardner Minshew in Indy like he's he's put together some really nice games and you know it's it's a it's a it's a tribute to them and how hard they've worked and sort of their career path to kind of just figure out how to be in that role. You know, a lot of it is, you know, I would say one of the most important things across the league is like, how, how good is your quarterback room? Right.
Like from a, from a, like just everyday standpoint, are you boys? Like, do you trust each other? Like, is there, there's a camaraderie in there, right? And those rooms that seem to have

that are the teams that seem to be pretty good. And a lot of that has to do with the backup quarterback.
Like you want to, you want to bring value to the room based on your knowledge, based on your skillset, but you're, you're there to help. You're, you're, you're an extra set of eyes for the offensive coordinator during the game.
You know, you're, you're the one talking to the quarterback in game, like adjustments, all that. So, um, I love being in that position.
We all wanted to play, but I, I got to see it in a lot of different rooms. I learned a lot of different offenses.
I kind of looked at it as another arrow in my quiver every time I learned a new system. And, uh, dude, I just love the game, right? I'm bummed that I'm not

out there, but at the same time, I count my blessings for 14 years. Yeah.
Get that elbow right. We might see it back out there again.
What's the best room that you've ever been a part of over your career? Oh man. I've been in a lot.
I would say the best dude who made the biggest difference for me was my rookie year in Cleveland, Jake DeLone.

Jake was The best dude who made the biggest difference for me was my rookie year in Cleveland, Jake DeLone.

Jake was a really, really talented quarterback, obviously.

Went to a Super Bowl, should have won a Super Bowl against New England.

Late in his career, he gets scooped up by the Browns.

He's the starter.

He gets an ankle sprain.

I ended up being thrust into there like week four or five of my rookie year. And I played good in my rookie year.
But a lot of it had to do with him. And just he seen the game.
He played in NFL Europe. The stories he could tell the kind of guy that he was.
And for me. You know, I never dreamed of going to the NFL, so I was like, well, I'm going get in a position like Jake is, where I'm a starter and I lose my job, I'm going to act the exact same way Jake acted.
With class, with character, he's helpful. And if he's not on the field, he's bringing value in so many other ways to the entire football team and his sportsmanship he's a very

cool guy jake is awesome awesome dude awesome sometimes you can't understand him he's got that louisiana cation vibe to him like yeah you're like what did you just say yeah but like he's awesome it's funny you were talking about like how you can ingratiate yourself into a quarterback room as a backup we were talking to chase daniel last year and he said his move was to always go in and buy the most expensive espresso machine coffee maker possible

and then bring that in and then that upgrades the room but everyone's like shit chase just upgraded our room with a piece of hardware and now everybody likes him would you like come in first day hey here's a bunch of donuts bring in breakfast for everybody what did you have a move oh i mean that's a that is a that's a better move by chase for sure um you know one of the things i started doing late in my career you know was i would sit down you know i would run the scout team right or most of the time and i would meet with the defensive coordinator going into the week like hey i don't think that this pressure is going to work, or I don't think, you know, this coverage, like it's too, it's easy to see, like, you're not confusing me at all. Like I know exactly where to go with the ball, you know? And so there was, there was a lot of good dialogue late in my career, you know, and I felt like I added a lot of value that way that I was, you know, able to give some good feedback to coordinators.
And I learned a lot of defense that way, too, like rules and responsibilities of, you know, secondary players, rushers. And so it's just, you know, I think I think being in that role, you always have to get yourself ready to play.
That's the most important thing. But then it's like, OK, if I'm going to be here 12 hours a day, like away from my family, grinding all the time, extra, like I'm going to actually learn things that have value and they're going to help me, you know, forever, right? How I see the game, how I watch a game, how I can, you know, coaches call all the time.
Like, how do you, how can you talk their language? Like that's the things that I really tried to bring value in. And with a scout team, that's interesting to me hearing a backup talk about that because I always imagine a scout team quarterback doing method acting going into that week like, oh, I got to be Lamar Jackson this week in practice.
So you get real stretched out, you start running. How much would you adapt your game to whichever quarterback you were trying to simulate? That's a great point.
The weeks that we would play Lamar Jackson, they'd definitely like a receiver who's gonna juke people I just didn't like a watch uh but the weeks they would you know play you know more heavy pass game like you you would enjoy those weeks because it's like you're gonna see a lot of different coverages um you know you're gonna you're gonna be able to give good feedback on you know how how you can you know make decisions is it you know a lot of post snap reads like how did my eye see it just little things like that um so dude i yeah i missed nfl man the competitive environment there's nothing like it but you know i just having a hard time with with uh you know just you know you know what you need to feel like to go out and play and you know we're getting. Yeah.
One of the weirdest stories I read about you is that time Jay Gruden said that you drank a gallon of milk a day. Do you remember that? You came out and clarified afterwards that you drank a gallon of milk like every five or six days, but I think that if someone says you drink a gallon of milk a day, that kind of implies you drink way too much milk.
So do you drink too much milk? He was talking about raw milk, wasn't he? Raw milk, yeah. I think he even called it the teat.
Straight from the source. Yeah, he couldn't see.
He forgot the word for utter. Did you have a cow that you would go visit every morning, just lay down underneath? That's a sticky world you start talking's, there's a lot of rules and regulations.
I grew up, you know, my grandparents had a farm and we were kind of always in and out helping spending summers out there. And, you know, they, we had dairy cows for a little bit growing up.
So we always drank raw milk. And, you know, as I, as I got older, it was kind of the running joke.
I drink a lot of milk. And, um, I think he walked down into the cafe one morning.
I had like, I might've brought like a jug of raw milk to work or something, something random. And he was like, what are you drinking? And I said, you know, milk.
And he was like, what kind of milk? And it was like in one of those glass jars or whatever. He's like, this is like milk.
Is this like from this, like this raw? and we just kind of had some banter going back and forth and you know all of a sudden he's like can't believe it he's talking about i'm letting him try it and um you know that story kind of kind of ran wild yeah it did but you drink a lot of milk yeah of course how much i i would say probably like a gallon right now like a gallon a week. And my kids drink a lot of milk.
How many glasses a day? Probably a big glass for breakfast and a big glass for dinner. A lot of milk.
You drink milk with dinner? I like that. Harbaugh does that too.
Yeah. Hey, I think it's a product of kind of like where you grew up, Texas thing.
I don't know. Strong bones.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I don't hate it. There's worse things that your quarterback could be known for drinking.
Is that milk? Than milk. No, no, no.
Oh, okay. That would have been awesome if you were just like, yeah, I don't drink that much milk.
You're just sipping on a little milk at like noon. I saw a milk problem.
You're addicted to milk. Yeah.
I saw you drink. I have a styrofoam cup.
I was like, is that some, he's sipping on the lean? Yeah. I don't think you should be ashamed, by the way.
I saw a milk problem. You're addicted to milk.
Yeah, I saw you drink out of a styrofoam cup. I was like, is that some sipping on the lean? Yeah, I don't think you should be ashamed, by the way.
I feel like milk gets shamed. It's like mayo and milk gets shamed.
Milk is delicious. Since when was milk bad for you? I agree.
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I love Jay, man. He's one of my favorites of all time.
I like him too.

I'm a Redskins football team Commanders fan.

Whatever the next name is, I'll be a fan of that too.

And when you were on the team,

I always felt like you got a little bit of a raw deal.

I felt like Colt McCoy should have gotten a chance,

an opportunity to be the starting quarterback.

You filled in nicely in some spots. I remember you had a big win in Dallas.

That was an awesome game.

But I always thought that you should have had the opportunity to see if you could be the full-time start of the team. Do you feel like you ever really got that opportunity there? Yeah, you know, I think the hard part there was, like, Robert Griffin won Rookie of the Year, you know, the year before I got there.
And he certainly established himself as the guy. And then he battled with some injuries.
And then Kirk stepped in and played and um you know then I had an opportunity and kind of got banged up late in the season and then it was kind of let's go back into the next year and you know uh Kirk ended up getting the job and then there was a two-year span in there where I didn't take a snap I mean Kirk played Kirk played every snap you know all our games were kind of going down the wire. We won the East one year.
Like, Kirk played awesome. You know, and again, I mentioned this earlier, we all want to play, right? Like, I love – the reason I stuck around Washington for so long is because I love Jay, and I love the system.
I felt like I had a good grasp of, you know, what we were trying to do offensively. When Sean was the coordinator, when Kevin was the coordinator, you know, like I felt good in it.
You know, and then I had my chance when Alex went down, you know, and then three weeks later, I break my leg. And it's like there was always like a little bit of an injury, a little bit of something that, you know, just kind of got the rug swept out from under me because of those, you know,

kind of nagging injuries or broken, whatever it was. And, but looking back, man, I learned so much football there and Jay was great to me.
Like I was there the whole time Jay was there. We were, we were tight.
tight. He's a phenomenal football coach.
So smart. His style is very unique, but he was able to coach Sean up to be the coordinator, coach Kevin up to be the coordinator.
Those guys learned a lot from him too. I think people forget that.
I have nothing but good experiences from my time in washington wish we could have won more you know wish i wouldn't have dealt with some injuries but you know at the end of the day that's that's part of the game i tell people all the time if you're gonna you're gonna play football there's 100 chance you're gonna get hurt you just hope it's not like the the big the big hurts like the big injury yeah yeah um i want to go back to Texas real quick uh in this game coming up how how are you do you talk to some guys on the staff you're watching every game like how are you feeling going into this game against Washington and also specifically like Quinn Ewers and his progression because it feels like this is the year that he's made that jump and he's looked you know spurts this year. Yeah.
Yeah, no. Okay, I'll start off with Quinn.
I think Quinn is playing awesome, right? I think he's got good weapons around him, probably a first or second round tight end, a couple NFL receivers that are going to play in the NFL, and the offensive line has stayed healthy and they're playing great. So, you know, you look at the progression Quinn has made from last year until this year, it's exactly how it should be, right? And that's a credit to him.
Like, he's very accurate with the football. He doesn't turn it over very often.
Like, I feel very good about our game against Washington. The thing that I keep thinking about with Washington is, like, we match up pretty good, but it's like even if Washington plays a bad game, their two receivers on the outside could, like, quietly have 150 yards receiving, and that's, like, the equalizer.
Yeah. Like, it doesn't matter at that point.
Like, they're still going to score. They're still going to make plays.
And all of a sudden, you know, they're in it at the end of the game

and they find ways to win.

And, you know, Penix is a really, you know, veteran season guy.

Like, he's accurate with the football.

So, you know, and then Washington's also well coached.

Like, I haven't watched all their games.

I've watched a couple.

And it's like the adjustments they make, you know,

by the time they get into the third, fourth quarter, they're rolling right there.

They're just they're just sound football team.

So I want to keep saying like, no, Texas is going to light them up. But I also know that like even if Washington plays bad, the receivers are good enough to keep them in the game.
Yeah, and the point on Washington's coach, Kalen DeBoer, is a good one because they've been in a lot more games where it's been tight and he's had to push the right buttons and go for it. Whereas Texas, obviously the game against Alabama was close-ish and the game against Oklahoma didn't go well.
Maybe some things you'd want back. Most of the other games, maybe Kansas State, but Texas blew out a lot of teams too.
Yeah. No, again, I go back to the point I originally made.
Texas should have won the Oklahoma game, right? We broke down late. We went down and scored, and then they pulled out a drive 80 yards in less than a minute.
That shouldn't have happened, right? But I think just overall in general, when I look at Texas, I think, you know, they also had some slip-ups like at Houston, right, at home against BYU. You know, they didn't like really put their foot on the gas and like, you know, they go up 21 to nothing or whatever, and then all of a sudden in the fourth quarter it's a one-score game.
Yeah. Right? You want to like eliminate those kinds of things.
And then once you got through those, you found ways to win. Now I just think that Texas has, has really like kind of set the standard for themselves and they're playing at a high level now for, for Washington.
It's like, how good is the PAC 12? I think the PAC 12 is pretty good. Right.
Like they got a lot of teams that, you know, won eight or nine games. So it's, it was competitive every week and Washington, you know, ran the table.
So I think Washington is better than what people think. I think Texas is going to have to play well, but I still, I still like Texas with the upper hand.
Yeah. Yeah.
So you talked about the red river shootout. Can we, are we in favor of bringing back the red river shootout? You played in the shootout before it was the rivalry.
It's so much better when you just call it the shootout we can agree on that right i agree 100 it doesn't have that same like it's it's going to be a big game no matter what but it's just it's more fun in the lead up when it's called the shootout that's something i think as america we can agree on and dial it back a little bit 100 and i am glad that the game's staying at the Cotton Bowl. That's where it needed to stay.
They signed a big extension. The atmosphere there, the crowd split right down the middle, sharing the same tunnel, the old school locker rooms.
Everything about that game is perfect, other than we need to call it a shootout. Yeah, it's at the State Fair.
You got hat the golden cowboy hat one of the best trophies in sports i'm thinking back also to when you were at texas and the photo shoot that you did where you're wearing the hard hat you know the question i'm about to ask the hard hat with a sledgehammer and the head of the sledgehammer is a football when you were doing that photo shoot were you like like damn i look awesome right now no i was sitting there i was talking to the guy and you know the people behind me are kind of like snickering and laughing i'm like hey i like the amount of crap i'm gonna get for this picture is is like gonna be forever yeah and it's so true like i'm in a couple of group texts with a bunch of my old teammates.

Somebody will throw something out there once a month,

and it never fails that that picture gets thrown in there.

It's like the picture they have of me when I call them.

Every single time.

You could win NFL MVP,

and your boys in the group chat would just respond with a picture of you

holding the sledgehammer football.

Hey, who's going to win the Texas game? I don't know. Call the guy with the hard hat and the hammer.
Let's do what he did. If Texas wins, that picture will be used nonstop.
Oh, yeah. I'm going to tweet it out for sure if Texas wins.
Yeah. Texas all the way back.
Oh, man. Whoever took that picture loves this conversation.
Yeah. Get some royalties off it.
Yeah. Do you ever get sick of texas back conversation we have fun with it um i think you guys gotta win it all to be all the way back right 100 and i i'll say it's it's been annoying over the last like 13 years or whatever like good mission accomplished yeah that's what we want we want to i mean it's just you know but people.
But I think it's brought on, right?

I think if you look at the program at Texas, we've had three head coaches since Coach Brown left, right?

There's been transition.

But the one thing that never changes is the expectations of the fans

and of the university, right?

And they haven't met those expectations.

And it's hard.

I remember, like, I don't want to always talk about me and our teams, but, my first two years after the national championship we went 10 and 3 both years and it was like i didn't want to go to class people hated you right it was boring it was dull like everybody's like oh you guys suck you know it's like we just went 10 and 3 like we won like i think texas won 10 games in a row for like 12 or something 12 or 13 years right that's a standard and so now i think you know the fans ability to like just give sark some time yeah a few years like let him like that was always the thing that i was preaching was like guys this isn't like an overnight transition now i will say with the nil and the portal and like that kind of like it can happen a lot quicker now. But back then, like before this all happened, it was that was hard to do.
And so I'm I'm just thankful that like we've won the close games this year. You know, the trap games like we found a way to win.
And now we've put ourselves in a position to like ultimately we everything everything that we

want to accomplish is right in front of us yeah do text back and forth with mcconaughey because i'm interested in knowing what he's got planned for the pregame speech for the semifinal there's there's no telling but i i love matthew you know the minister of culture in any big game you're going to see his face a lot um but he he loves the program um he'll probably have an awesome pre-game speech hopefully somebody can record it uh very passionate and yeah i look forward to seeing him down there in the sugar bowl he should bring in a husky on a leash be like you got a dog walk put a muzzle on yeah muzzle these guys yeah yeah you were talking about the n the NIL and how Texas is able to build and build and build. They got Arch Manning on campus right now.
I saw him get in a game against Texas Tech this season, and my take on Arch Manning, which is probably – I'm very dumb and wrong about 99.9% of things that I say. So my stupid take on Arch Manning is that right now he's too good at playing quarterback.
If you saw those passes he was throwing, they were right on the dot, bouncing off guys' hands in the end zone. They weren't ready to catch Arch Manning's passes yet.
The receivers might need another year in Arch Manning's system in order to catch up to the genius that is Arch Manning. I love it.
You know, listen, like I've been around Arch quite a bit. I mean, gone back to some spring practices.
Like I remember when I was helping sort of like recruit him to UT. Now, listen, I'm not taking any credit for that at all.
I just was around a little bit. he was so much more prepared and ready and mature than what I was when I came

came on campus right like he's got the script as he's watching practice. He's not even on campus yet.
He hasn't even signed yet, right? But he's going down the street. He knows the formations.
He knows the shifts and the motions. He knows the protection.
Like, the dude is really, really smart in football, right? He's mature. And I know he's worked really hard.
You know, I, I'm thankful that he got a red shirt. I thankful that he got to play a little bit.
Um, I'm very bullish on him. Like I'm high on him because I know like the character that he has, you know, the, the family, you know, situation, like he's seen like elite level quarterback his whole life, starting with his grandpa.
Right. And so their, their family has always been so nice to me.
I, I, I just, I, I, I just, you know, I don't want to compare Arch Manning with Garrett Gilbert. Okay.
But when I was in school, love Garrett Gilbert, like had a nice career, but like he never lost a game in high school. He was right in Lake Travis, right in the backyard.
Like he was crowned as king before he ever got on campus. And the moment he threw a pick or two or they lost a couple home games, it was like everything turned on.
It wasn't necessarily his fault, right? But the expectation was just astronomical. And I sense a little bit of that with Arch although um I think I think Arch has a very good head on his shoulder I think he's going to handle it all well like I know he wants to play um and he's got a chance to sit and watch Quinn play Quinn's done great like Quinn's executed Sark's offense to a tee yeah right so he's got a good picture of what it's supposed to look like.
And whenever that, you know, whenever Arch gets his chance, I know that this year will be very, I've told him, I said, the best thing that ever happened to me was red shirting. Right.
I know it's not that cool to do and it sucks. And it's like, especially in this day and age, but like, I'm just telling you, it was the best thing that ever happened to me.
me. And hopefully, you know, that turns out to be the case for Arch too.
And you recruited him. You hand-delivered Arch Manning to Texas.
Thank you, Colt McCoy. You brought Texas back.
Good job. Yeah.
That was fun. All right.
I have one last question. Appreciate the time, Colt.
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The Rose Bowl, obviously you get injured. At what point did you realize on the broadcast they were talking about you playing catch with your dad underneath the stadium? Because then it became like, it you know lore was like oh my god he's testing out his shoulder underneath the stadium with his dad probably would have wished that like just didn't get talked about because like yeah you were injured and you were just trying to get back on the field but did you what did someone tell you right after like hey that whole broadcast in the second half was all about that dude no i had no idea i mean had it been my left arm i'd have gone i had a play i'd never missed a snap right i just i couldn't control anything um you know i i hate the narrative where it's like oh you know you were trying to go to the league like all that i mean that's so not accurate like i mean that wasn't even me, right? If I wanted to do that, I would have left after my junior year.
Right. And so, I mean, to be fully frank, like that injury, like stayed with me for years, years, right? Like nerves are different for everybody, right? And mine was like in my neck and it kind of it took my whole arm out for weeks, months.
And, you know, doing rehab and all of that for years. Right.
It's very annoying. But I tried.
I tried. I tried a lot.
There was just I mean, I didn't have the grip. I didn't have strength.
You've you've fallen asleep on your, and you wake up, and that thing's just like heavy, right? That's exactly the feeling that I had for several weeks after. I feel like that kind of injury, too, is really tough for viewers to understand.
It's kind of like Brock Purdy, you know, where it's like he looks fine. Why can't he just throw the ball? Like if I was in that game, I'd just throw the ball.
I would have gone back in the game. Yeah, whereas like if you like blow your knee out, It's like, he looks fine.
Why can't he just throw the ball? Like, if I was in that game, I'd just throw the ball.

Fuck it.

I would have gone back in the game.

Yeah.

Whereas, like, if you, like, blow your knee out, it's like, oh, we saw that.

He can't walk.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Exactly.

And it's hard to explain, right?

It's hard.

Like, you know, you weren't carted off the field.

Like, all that kind of – it's just – it's part of the game, right?

Guys who have had, like, severe stingers before, they know, right?

But if you're a defender and you're a tackler, you go right back in the game.

Thank you. it's part of the game, right? Guys who have had severe stingers before, they know, right? But if you're a defender and you're a tackler, you go right back in the game.
I'm a thrower of the football, like accurately. There's no way you can do that, right? Ask anybody who's had it, right? And so the moment, the time, like that was by far the worst time that any, you know, I never really experienced injuries up to that point in my career.
That was just the worst.

It's just physically impossible.

Not necessarily for me, but think about I hated it for my coaches,

for my teammates.

Those guys had never played with anybody.

I got to play for four years.

They hadn't taken snaps with anybody else at that point. It was just a sucker punch for me and for everybody else.
You live and you learn and you move on. You look back and that's football.
I hate it. Your dad did win Dad of the Year that year for that story, though.
Obviously we didn't see it but the visual that they were setting up like Colt's dad's trying to get him warmed up back in the game underneath the bleachers of the Rose Bowl. Was he running around? I was dad of the year.
The amount of security they had in the stadium I don't know how he even made it down. I think he just jumped the fence and ran in the locker room.
Dad of the year. Nobody's stopping me.
If there's a dad, he's like, that's my son in there. You can get past any security.
Yeah. It was cool.
Maybe you should have tried an IV of a drip of milk going directly into it. Exactly.
That might work. I have one last question.
You can confirm or deny this. I'm not going to say where I heard it from, but a little birdie told me that at one point in your NFL career,

you were so well-liked by your teammates that you had a coach

that had to tell the team, hey,

I know that Colts having a barbecue this weekend,

but would you mind going to the starting quarterbacks party

before you go to Colts barbecue?

I'm denying that all the way.

Thank you. but would you mind going to the starting quarterbacks party before you go to colis barbecue i i'm denying that all the way okay okay gotcha they were able to go to your barbecue without going to the other guys is that what you're saying it was just a it was just a lack of communication you know like it's just it happens sometimes yeah right yeah see how well liked he is that's you're so well he's the you're the best dude ever i want to go to your barbecue right now fuck big cats bar yeah i'm in years i don't want to go to my barbecue yeah yeah good teammate i've always said that like if to be a backup for a long time in the nfl and and you know you started as well but you have to you have to have a certain personality that people are drawn to you like whenever they say a big name, why isn't that guy a backup? Why is he still in the league? It's like it takes a certain type of cat to be able to be like selfless like that in a locker room setting like that.
Yeah. Again, like there's a lot of big personalities, right? And I've always just, you know, I think one of the advantages that I've had if we're talking about this is that, like, since I was three years old, I was the water boy on my dad's football teams.
Right. Like my heroes growing up were the quarterbacks that played for my dad in high school.
Right. I thought, man, I'd be I'd be extremely lucky to get to go play college football someday.
Like Texas wasn't even on my radar. You kidding me? like Texas is like, that's UT, right? I was going to just go play at the local D2 school and like be happy.
Um, and so you just, you develop an appreciation for the game and I never wanted to cheat the game. I always wanted to, to give it all I had.
And, you know, whether I was starting or backup or, you know, water boy, like that's, that's just how I was raised and taught. And and you know whether I was starting or backup or you know water boy like that's that's just how I was raised and taught and you know this game has done so much for me and and for my family and it's like man like I'm just I'm proud to got to play as long as I had it's it's been a dream and um yeah I think you know there there are a lot of egos in football, right? There's, there's some, there's some big name guys and, and, and guys who have been super successful.
And, um, but I, I'll be the first to tell you, there's so many, been so many people in my life that have like played a pivotal role in getting to me or getting me where I've, where I've been able to go. Right.
And I, I mean, I certainly have to admit that like good coaches good teammates family's been great like teachers coaches along the way um so yeah man it's it's been awesome yeah well appreciate it again uh great time having you on if we're ever in the same spot if you're ever in Chicago please come by maybe we'll throw some yeah throw throw a football around under the Rose Bowl bleachers, the whole thing. But we...
Yeah, no, this is awesome, man. We appreciate it.
We're still rooting for you if you do decide to come back and play some more in the NFL. What's going to happen with your Chicago Bears quarterback? You want to come play? Listen, the backup quarterback is always the most popular guy in Chicago so no doubt I do think I do think since Fields has come back from his uh the thumb or like he's played pretty good football yeah I'm I'm in full uh whatever they decide to do I'll just I'll just go all in on that I'm done like it just it's too much debating it and like talking about it I'm tired you know what the worst is figure it out and i'll just go with that if you have a plan of attack and then uh the team doesn't follow what you want to do right and then they stink and then you have that additional mindset of they should have just they should have followed me i would have been right and then that makes it worse just yeah just yeah i'm just going with the flow just get in the back seat yeah whatever they do i'm just gonna be like that was the smartest thing ever.
I'm just going to retroactively decide it. Yeah, yeah.
There you go. It's a good strategy.
Well, thanks so much, Colt, man. Appreciate it.
All right, guys. I appreciate it.
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And now here's Sean Stellato. And now for something completely different.
different okay we now welcome on a very special guest in studio it is super agent tommy devito's agent reps a lot of players in the nfl sean stellato he's here on our couch sean thank you for coming by we appreciate it and more than more than that you're in chicago because today you're being inducted into the italianAmerican Sports Hall of Fame. I didn't even know that was a thing.
Oh, come on. And you're in.
Well, you're not Italian, so how would you? Well, hold on, hold on. I actually brought, so PFT wore his Italian jersey.
Yeah, I'm 1% Sicilian, and then Big Cat also has some close family connections here. Not Italian, but supportive.
I'm a proud Italian father. Hey, we believe in adopting non-Italian Yeah, I mean, I'm Italian father.
My kids are a quarter Italian. I'm nothing.
But I'm supportive. You know what? That's the main thing.
You got passion in your heart and you love ball and you're representing the flag. Yeah, not Italian, but supportive.
I respect that Yes. It has been just- Support my kids.
I record her Italian. For sure.
Yeah. A great story this year.
And going to the Hall of Fame, this is like the perfect week to do it too because you were everywhere on Monday night. You were all over the sidelines.
Now you're going to the Italian-American Sports Hall of Fame. I was looking at some of the names.
It's very, very impressive, the names that are in the Italian-American Sports Hall of Fame. Growing up, what Italian sports player did you look up to? You got Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Mike Tirico.
The list goes on. Was there one guy that you looked at? Yeah, Joe Montana was a guy I admired.
I just, you know, that San Francisco team, look, the Patriots in the late 80s were putrid, and the 49ers were kind of winning. But I always admired Joe and his grittiness.
And that was someone I emulated until I met him before a 49ers game, and he snubbed me. But all good, Joe.
But no, to stand on Rocky Maciano, Joe DiMaggio, and to be able to stand on the shoulders of those great men, it's very humbling and I'm honored. But at the end of the day, it's all about who came before me, all my ancestors, my late uncle, I developed a major passion for boxing.
His name was Frankie Stilato and he fought Tony DeMarco, the 1955 welterweight champion of the world, twice at the old garden over a girl named Grace. So i so i developing that passion for boxing and you know rocky and then boom boom mancini um it's i'm just i'm happy but at the same token i'm just i'm absorbing it but giving my kids to kind of see something like this my four daughters are my greatest accomplishments i think it's cool and my parents been married 62 years yeah so they'll be there they took the train out they don't fly and then my wife who's my you know everything my wife krista yeah so so when did you find out you're getting inducted because it does the timing is very funny yeah where i was like wait did they just see this guy on on monday football they're like we got to get him in the hall of fame no i actually they sent uh i got the phone call from ron and sd uh the end of august and um so this was coming yeah and you know i i'm not gonna lie it was an emotional call you know you think you don't think a hall of fames you grind you follow your bliss um i played at every level you know i had a good high school career prep school division one football and basketball uh played a years of arena football for Jeff Brom, was one of them, the coach of Louisville.
And then obviously getting into the space, opening up SES Sports over 10 years ago. But, you know, my teammates, my coaches, obviously my clients, I mean, and then my ancestors.
So it takes a village. Yeah.
And I'm excited where we're at right now. It's still like an artificial intelligence company.

Yeah.

Still a lot of growth potential that I'm looking forward to tapping into.

So Tommy DeVito, how did that work?

How did you land him?

Was it just you just walked in and you kissed him on the cheek and he was like, all right,

you're my agent?

You know what?

Because it's a perfect, seeing you on Monday Night Football, it was like a perfect storybook.

Like we got Tommy DeVito, the Cutlets, he swept the nation, everyone's rooting for him. Who's this agent who's on the phone looking great, and he's Italian too? It's perfect.
How I landed him is I made him an offer. He couldn't refuse.
Tommy, I knew was a baller from years back. Elite 11 kid, 2018, Dark Horse for the Heisman Trophy.
Went out to the Oregon Open and outperformed to, let's face it, guys that go commit early, whether it's politics, whether it's schemes, whether it's coaches. Syracuse didn't work, but it's a testament to Tommy's upbringing.
Goes, reinvents himself at Illinois.

I knew Tommy following Illinois, his ability to process,

his ability to make those intermediate throws,

his ability to comprehend multiple playbooks.

I put all premiums on that.

Hard to quantify it.

It's unfortunate that 28 teams didn't see the value in Tommy DeVito.

But let's face it, the GOAT, Brady, he went sixth round, 199th pick. And I'm not saying Tommy's the GOAT, or Tom Brady rather, but I think he's a phenomenal player.
I don't even think he scratched what he will become because he's got a boulder of cutlets on his shoulder. I love that.
Do you kiss all your agent's parents on the cheek or just Tommy? Well, I mean, his father kissed me first and as Italians, we reciprocate. I give you a gift, you give me a gift back.
So he kissed first, he made the first move. He made the first move and I just thought it was like a perfect, like the three tenors, you saw we're in sync where I kissed him, he kissed his son and it was bellissimo.
It was, it was perfect. So on before the game you were on the phone presumably making a making a big deal making moves you weren't actually on the phone you knew the camera was on me you were talking to yourself yeah you were like I gotta act like how the hell did I know the camera was on me you were talking to yourself you spent the whole the whole like three hours before it's a good move I love the move I guess you know look at it it's like watching a mystery movie ever know.
But, you know, I was. I was trying to close a deal that I've been going back and forth with because I drove down.
And then my Sienna, Sicily, my five-year-old, we always do bedtime stories and a phone call before bed if daddy's on the road. So it was cool to have that moment with her.
And, you know, you can see Tommy was locked in. But, yeah, it was funny to get who was he on the phone with.
But that's the transparency to that question. I thought it was a little out of bounds, a little out of line what Eli said on Monday Night Football.
He said that your nickname was Slimy. You know what? It was actually Peyton, I was told.
Oh, okay. And I was extremely disappointed to hear that.
Look, Peyton, considerably one of the better ones to play the position and play the game. And the thing about me is he's never met me.
He doesn't know me. Make that statement, I'm a dad of four daughters and a wife.
I think it was very shocking. I was disappointed.
But at the end of the day, you know what? I live my life. Be curious.

Don't be judgmental. Yeah.
It was anti-Italian discrimination. And you know, the thing is too, I'm so proud of my heritage.
Yeah. Like that is the world to me.
Wait, you're Italian? I think I am. I just, I don't know.
The shoes are awesome. So these shoes are very, very special.
So the boat on the side of the shoe is the SS Canapic.

Now, Pasquale, my grandfather, Pasqualina, his mom, Francesco, his dad, left San Baez, which you can see right there. Yeah.
San Baez, small village in Punta, excuse me, Catanzaro, Calabria, Italy, on the lowest possible means, SS Canapic, 1,300 other immigrants in third class, $14 to their name. So I am 272, that's my enshrinement number.
And I just want to have a part of them with me. My heritage, my ancestors, they're kind of my fix when you're in tower of of Terror as an agent, you're high, you're low.
But I think about them on that boat, very little means, and everything that comes as an agent, because a lot of times you can't control it. Guys get cut, politics, you recruit a kid for 12 months and you come in second.
But yeah, so that's very, I got something wild or weird tonight. A little bit more, we're going to turn it up a little bit for Sunday.
But I'm not saying, listen, what you see is what you get. I am organic.
I haven't changed if you look at my track record. It's not like I'm just trying to be some guy.
Yeah. I feel like that.
It's like my cause, my cleats. That's what you're doing right now.
Yeah. That's you.
You pretty much put it in Italian terms. Yeah.
Yeah, that is. You speak Italian.
I'm excited to see what you have planned for Sunday down in New Orleans. So it does seem like America is rooting for Tommy DeVito right now.
You know, look, Tommy, if you think about it, you know, the underdog, it's what this country is built on. And he has went out there week after week, and he's cut his teeth.
And, you know, when he was going through the Syracuse days orracuse days or obviously overlooked through the draft, I mean, he didn't use that as a crutch and say, why me? Tommy went out there. When I met with Coach Cable right after the draft in his office, hey, he's going to have an uphill battle.
That's what he said to me. And I said, hey, you know what? We're ready to go.
I knew there was three quarterbacks and at the end of the day we all know you can't project injuries um and he has gotten just better and better and better uh but comprehend and he's he's comfortable now and he won the locker room um and um i mean look at that fan base is very unique very passionate and they got that gritty you know uh jersey. So he's given pump and hope in a lot of those fans and a lot of people in that area.
Let's face it. I mean, we've had a broken country.
A lot of things have happened. And it's great.
It's a great success story, but he's far from – he's not content. I mean, he's hungry.
It is great. And he's very locked in.
Yeah. It's all this media hype and all the, you know, the Tommy Cutlass thing, you know, we're focused on winning football games.
I'm focused on service and my, my clients and Tommy and taking care of them on and off the field. That's, that's the mission.
That's the focus. And, uh, you know, that's how we do it.
So, so how many clients do you represent in the NFL right now? So I've got a total of 12 clients okay so you you i love your story too because you do feel like kind of an underdog as well because you hear you know there's the big agencies the caa the wme like all these you know a lot of these guys are just going to okay everyone does this let's do this how did you start your business like how do you you know go from one client to 12 clients how do you go throughout those years because it is a very tough business to be in and if you're an outsider it's even tougher you know it's like you know it's like an old italian woman that's not going to give her secret ingredients to her sauce okay i like that you know so i mean look at i i build it uh you know a little differently than than most um and You've got a combination, you know, there's a lot of those big goliaths out there. But I take pride in my workmanship and doing this a long time.
And I just try to just obviously evaluate and character's important to me. But a lot of things, money changes people and things changed.
I've been doing this a long time um and you just try to get the right guys on the bus yeah do you uh do you represent sports media personalities you know it's funny i had some people reach out regarding that i know one guy uh rico bosco he's doing contract negotiations i think you would probably be a good agent to deal with dave for rico yeah not italian but he's got an italian name okay so yeah he changed his last name everyone calls me shauno because they ask what shaun i'm like my mother loves shaun conry but you can call me shauno if it makes it feel more italian yes yes you think you could you could help rico out in negotiation with dave portnoy without a doubt i know portnoy you know he's kind of tough i hear but well so you wrote a book. Oh, yes.
I had to bring it in. Yeah, well, he was saying, like, who writes a book about one high school football game? So you beat his team.
I mean, it's funny. See, that's being judgmental and not really understanding all the parallels to the story.
Right. Well, I think also because you beat his team.
Yeah, we beat him on that. We went over there and pissed on their turf yeah and it was todd mcshay right yeah yeah you know i want to see roughly around 10 or 12 000 people there's the national game of the week on sports channel wow this is the heart of the lockout for major uh nhl major league baseball they were undefeated we're undefeated uh we just went through a a really crazy week teachers go on strike, Halloween day, Salem, Mass.
Kids have a forfeiture of their season, break into school, steal their equipment, stash it at a local field. Administration comes out, says, hey, if you coach, we're going to terminate you.
Union grabs the coaches and says, your job description in the collective bargaining agreement has no relevance to coach and coach the kids. And they hit him with a season assist document.
Now, they couldn't get that equitable remedy of an injunction because he had two different contracts. So that night we defy the season assist.
The superintendent of school compares the coach live TV to Jim Jones and David Koresh just starting a football cult. Now I intertwine the parallels of 1692 witchcraft trials, one-day witch hunt, style-style legendary coach.
It even gets better. We get to school that day going over to Swampscott, and coaches aren't allowed on the bus.
So right before the game starts, the coaches run out arm-locked out of dark vans to coach the kids. Wow.
Okay, I take it back. That's not just a football game.
And my connection to the story is I was living with my grandmother. She lived with us who was dying.
I was the quarterback of the team. And when I talk about miraculous wins and divine intervention, and we're talking the Swampscarf game, it even gets better the next two games.
But what they do in Salem, do in salem mass they're preserving the legacies of the witchcraft the witches that falsely accused uh you know people that were hung and executed i'm all i'm trying to do is persevere the legacies of my former teammates and and our coaches yeah that's a great story yeah that's not just a football game no it isn't and so they were unfortunately you know they were just there and you know the better team won that day that's all i gotta say yeah rated t for team my name is paul hayman special counsel to roman reigns and the bloodlines wise man step out of the ropes and onto the island in wwe 2k 25 an epic wwe themed world ruled by the one and only roman reigns the return of promos plus intergender matches my gm goes multiplayer and more wwe 2k25 available now can you tell me a little bit more about salem massachusetts i don't know much about it yes but the only thing i do know is the witch trials because that's what you learn well that's what you were telling me me about how the city had to be rebuilt, this whole uprising with the city. So what's it like growing up in Salem, Massachusetts? And how did it make you who you are right now? You know, Salem turned me into a man, made me a conqueror.
I always say 01970. We grew up very humble beginnings, eight of us, three bedroom house and witchcraft heights.
And it's a great name. It is a great name.
But I got to say this. I mean, people are coming through the city.
They think it's a theme park. You know, people live there, you know, people pissing on people's lawns and, you know, you know, going down slides and people's yards and, you know, double parking in front of people's, you know, as they're trying to back up.
It's crazy. I mean, you get millions of people come through there, but it's great for the city.
But, you know, I'm trying to just carve out a little history there and say, you know what? Salem, Matt's more than just the witches. Right.
You know, it's a football town. It's a town of some Italians.
But it was great. You know, it really, it gave me a platform to really use as a springboard and uh i was i mean the year after high school was my biggest year of my life i went to prep school for a year the owners which is coincidentally where john tish okay steve tish yeah and i happened uh you know i happened to meet um john for the first time and he went to the gunnery and he was someone i looked up to in terms of learning all about him and what a great great man and that was that was cool to have some face time with him before Monday Night Football before everything kind of went down which is kind of crazy yeah so we were talking about this on I think Wednesday's show what is it about Italians that it feels like they're the last group that everyone's okay just making fun of and it feels like italians are cool with it like listen i can do it because i'm a proud italian father and one of our one of my favorite producers is italian uh we got we got christopher delente over there hey delente he's a hairy motherfucker is he yeah but what al dente delente yeah he's he's got that that classic italian temper, he does, yeah.
He got a little Sicilian in him. You got some Sicilian in there? My wife's half Sicilian.
Max? No, no Sicilian. No Sicilian? What is it? I think my family's from Bruzzo.
Bruzzo? Bruzzo. Yeah.
So he's got, you know, like he'll go zero to 60 and like that. Is it sauce or gravy? Sauce or gravy? Sauce.
Sauce. Si.
Okay so but what is it about italians it like it does feel like they're the last people that everyone can have kind of have fun you know making jokes about and stereotyping yeah everyone's doing this i know well so much passion right heritage yeah i mean we we hug we kiss you know we love fashion and and uh sports you know um i mean, they used to kill each other in the Roman days and the Roman Coliseum. I mean, that gladiator stuff.
But I think it's just, they're gritty. And when they came to this country, they were very discriminated against.
And it was very tough for them. And I think in terms of, one thing I'll say about Italians that I'm proud of is they didn't stay complacent.
They evolved and climbed the economic ladder. And I think that's just that gritty, underdog approach.
And I share the same values my ancestors carried over in the Atlantic, loyalty, generosity, hard work, grittiness, faith, family. I carry those and try to implement those in the core values of my kids.
Yeah. I think it's also because Italians love to bust balls.
Yeah, they're funny. So you feel like you can bust balls back.
Hey, we're in the Chicago. I'm dying to meet Sebastian.
I mean, Sebastian called Tommy. He definitely gave me a couple of ab workouts.
Yeah, you're jacked. I don't think people know know about you.
If you go to your Instagram page, you fire off thirst traps like it's going outside. Oh, you got your shirt off? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. This guy's got like an eight pack.
Damn. I told my wife I got to maintain eight pack till I'm 60.
So I got about 15 years. But I had a couple agents I hired and fired.
And I remember one saying, you can never get out of shape.

You got to be ready for the call.

So I kind of just kept that going.

And I do get to rewind the clock back once a year.

I play in a celebrity charity flag football game.

Oh.

And this year, I'll be catching balls either from Team Mac, Tracy McGrady, or RG3.

Okay.

The day before in Vegas.

So we got to, but the makeup of, hey, I got to fight for my guys and i and you know i train like i i'm fighting yeah do you train with your clients uh sometimes yeah i do a lot of a lot of boxing a lot of you know martial arts got a green belt in kempo uh i ran boston marathon a few times so i raised about ten thousand dollars for inner city kids so who knows i've people are trying to get in my ear hey your late uncle was a boxer right why don't you box another agent i'm like jesus man i don't want to hurt anybody yeah that was smart what you did there by the way you mentioned the marathon but saying you raised money because no one cares about anyone running a marathon yeah that's that's just i mean that's like you got us with the charity well you know good sports and kids with severe disabilities yeah see you're doing it again yeah the second I know don't do the second act it is it well you know what i did right i wanted to make fun of you for being like yeah i ran a couple of marathons i'm not i was anyone can run i was hurting i was nearly crying at 37 degrees but i'll tell you this the sec 2008 i ran it we just had my sophia bella and my wife's in the hospital and i was neck and neck through uh with lance armstrong first half marathon and um i'm proud to say i did not train once i just went out and ran the marathon that's insane that's crazy so how many times a day do you say to yourself like what would rocky do i would probably i live my life kind of like a rocky balboa meets daniel la russo okay so are you are you ever like looking in the mirror like hey sean what will rocky do yeah let's get it tough it out yeah drink some fucking raw raw eggs or um you know go punch some meat yeah go go fight a russian yeah go fight a russian that's a little like a heavyweight like six four two forty and you're like five eight one seventy that's kind of interesting how people really bought into that yeah i know they know. They never would have commissioned that fight.
Never at all. It's just a sanctioned murder, I think.
No, it isn't. But I'll tell you, I watched and got jacked up.
And I was throwing some, you know, when I watched it, I still get, yeah, I mean, he did all that crazy, unorthodox stuff. And, you know, I really looked through those lenses and a lot of how I conduct business, how I train.
I'm doing a lot of different things. I jump into the ocean in January and do some cold recovery work at five in the morning.
And I remember when I was playing arena balls at Nahant Beach and it was literally beginning of December and I just tortured myself in Gallows Hill in Salem, 93 yard toboggan hill. I drove down, I went and I I had cops on a two-by-four, whatever, the little- You got an ATV? ATV.
And they came down and said, sir, is everything okay? Like, don't hurt yourself. They thought I was trying to kill myself.
I was like, with all due respect, it's the office. I'm just trying to get some recovery work in.
Yeah. Excercising yourself to death.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
That's great. How do you maintain like the motivation that you get from being an underdog when you're going through all these successful times? Like you're right now, I don't know if people could call you an underdog.
You're going to the Italian Sports Hall of Fame. Yeah, you know, I'll always be an underdog.
It's just the way I was always the shortest, smallest in stature, lightest, not the smartest. I didn't hit the ovarian lottery.
But you know what? I had something with the family component was important to me. But I kind of surrounded my entire office man cave is surrounded by my client's jerseys, the autographed footballs, some awards, but I'm blasted with a lot of my ancestors.
So I just bring myself back to what were they going through on that SS Canabic when they came to this country with very little means, but like, how did they lack of security? I mean, we live, think about it. You got the cell phone, you got computers, you can Google anything.
You know, AI is beautiful today. So that kind of keeps me just like, you know what? We got this.
Perspective. And honestly, I have a strong faith.
And I really, that's so important.

And that's the backbone of our family. And my wife has been the one who's kept me, because let's face it, every great man needs, a good man needs a good woman.
And she's kept me from when I was low, I have got my Jerry Maguire stories that I could share. There'll be a later date.
Um, but she's really kept me, my faith up to go out here and just continue to, you know, build this thing. And it's crazy.
It's the beautiful thing about football as a player. And even as an agent, it's, it's resiliency.
We're all wired like that. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, um, a couple of last questions.
So like we said, you're, you're being inducted in the Italian American sports hall of. Is it like the Masters? Did you get to pick your menu? You know what? I didn't get to pick my menu, but I do as crazy.
It better be good food. Yeah, it better be good food.
It's a lot of pressure. It's not going to hang with my wife's cutlets, my mother's meatballs, my grandmother's lasagna and linguine.
So I won't, but I'm sure it'll be decent. But you know, in the Hall of Fame, I got to give this speech that, you know, I've repped a few times.
I thought I was going to get a few more reps in with the week got crazy and trying to, you know, close out a couple of deals for Tommy. And, you know, obviously my quarterback, EJ Perry, worked out for the Patriots.
So any GMs listening in the league, this kid. They all listen.
No, they all listen. E.J.
Perry is an absolute baller. Hits a golf ball, 360 yards, 360 dunks, and he'll go on the whiteboard and do some Matt Damon stuff from Good Will Hunting.
I love it. You'd be shocked when we go to the combine in Indy in February, the amount of scouts that come up and say they listen to the show, and we're like, why? We're stupid.
Yeah, we're actively making teams worse. Yeah, if you listen to us your team's gonna suck but i like this e.j perry kid and over mass yeah he all you have me college so we went to boston college and then he transferred to play for his uncle his uncle was a hell of a player we played against each other james perry brown okay broke every record in the ivory yeah then he goes out has the greatest performance in the east west shrine Shrine game, 153.9 quarterback rating.
A few guys that played in that game, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, John Elway, backs it up in the combine. Wait, he played better than John Elway? John Elway is like 60.
No, I'm saying in past performance. Oh, okay, all right.
Sorry, that was a little ambiguous. And then he goes to the combine.
That would be funny if he was going going up again. And he has the most athletic test score out of any quarterback.
Let's get him. Where are you Jay Perry guys now? Yeah.
So what teams? I'm looking at his Wikipedia right now. He's been on the Jaguars, Texans, the Michigan Panthers, and then the Texans again.
Yep. And he just worked out for the Patriots this past Tuesday.
All practice. Well, they got a quarterback.
Yeah. No.
I don't know. I think I got a pretty good judgment on talent.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Hands down.
We're EJ Perry guys. We will help you.
EJ is exceptional. Yeah.
Do you want us to sign EJPerry.com? Yeah. It'll just say.
I'm telling you. You can drive a golf ball 360 yards.
Yeah. Dude, EJ is a freak.
And look, you got to remember what EJ grew up in a family of coaches father high school football coach uncle a harvard guy played at harvard other uncle coached at the texans for uh nine years he's a college coach now i mean they don't make them like this kid yeah but how many players are on the street that are hidden gems yeah and you should use us because we are one for one we did draft josh allen.com i don't know if you heard of josh allen um he's pretty good at quarter yeah i think he came out of wyoming yeah um yeah you probably saw because he probably would have gone undrafted if we didn't make that website there was little to no buzz around and like we said the gms listened to this show yeah and we gassed them up hard well gas up ej he's ready he's the best best he's ever been um i i think look at i i think i earned a little validation you know on my assessment of talent and he's phenomenal so um but i'm yeah i'm excited for this weekend should be fun uh down in olene new orleans and uh looking forward to you know seeing some other guys play on saturday night as well yeah yeah yeah this it's been a crazy week for you, and we appreciate you stopping by. It sounds like a week of a lifetime, really.
Is there any particular part of your speech tonight, any lines that you're working on? You want to just give like one last rep right now? Oh, man. What do I want? You know, there's definitely a part of the speech that I hope the listeners tonight because I kind of want to save it for a for a chuckle.
But I mean, I think at the end of the day, really naked, James Baldwin, the great writer came and said, naked I come into this world, naked I shall leave. So leave a legacy that you and your family are proud of and that can carry on.
And Frank Sinatra made the words, the best is yet to come um i listened to a lot of his music and i just love the song my way uh so i am blessed to be doing this and running ses sports my way and uh just you know i'm excited to embrace tonight that's it yeah big night it's great i mean it's it's a great week hi it's rigs from foreplay and you know what is back it's pga tour 2k25 That I mean, it's a great week. Hi, it's Riggs from 4Play, and you know what is back? It's PGA Tour 2K25.
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What's, what's, what's, well, like growing up as a kid. Yeah.
It's challenging now. And cause my wife got a shellfish allergy and my daughter Gianna is going to, uh, shellfish my daughter, Gianna, her and I wrote a pick, uh, uh, early chapter book.
She suffers from juvenile arthritis. Okay.
And we wrote this together and I actually visited a Children's Hospital yesterday and brought gifts and she made these pocket full of sunshines, little kits to go to the kids with toys in them, which I'm cool about. So, I mean, look, if I'm not eating at the house, it'd be lobster.
It would be, you know, white fish. Little, I would say it would be some clams.
Big clams? Yeah. What else? My late grandma, my nonna used to make unbelievable stuffed squid.
Oh. Yeah, and her bread comes with al dente.
I'm a big Italian sardine guy. I need those omegas for my cognitive function.
I do like a really, end good tuna where I'm losing track of numbers I think that was five I mean if I had to go shrimp I would say not shrimp I would go with just regular paliny shrimp the big jumbo shrimp with that husk radish ak radish. Yep.
Appetizer. Yeah.
A little appetizer. The best.
It is. So I mean, I love, my wife makes a really good homemade ravioli, which is kind of cool.
And my mother-in-law. You might need a Sean Stilato cookbook.
That'd be good. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, but I'm mentioning that, but we're talking about working out.
I mean, my diet is really clean six days a week like scary clean but seventh day that's it i'm eating like i'm 320 pounds is that sunday sunday cheat day and i i eat a whole entire bag of hell kettle chips jalapeno kettle chips early afternoon when i'm home with a smile on my face i love that but i'm out there monday morning and i'm literally grinding yeah grinding not to you how to do your job, but you need to have a word with ESPN about the cutlets graphic. Did you see the chicken cutlets they put up? They look good.
That's not chicken cutlets. No, it isn't.
Probably the designer was an Italian, the digital guy. Representation matters.
That's why you need an Italian to take a look at those graphics. Hey, but the experience creates wisdom.
I'm sure they'll get it right the second time yeah same uh all right well sean thank you so much congratulations again it feels like you know everything these moments that you have in your life where it's like everything's kind of set into place it's really cool to watch no i i'm very blessed and um still ultra motivated but i'll always be the kid from witch Heights, 01970. So that being said, wax on, wax off.

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All right, let's wrap up the show. on chicks on holidays on holidays it is the holidays and in the spirit of giving and the holidays i just like to clean up and i i will gladly do another pick this weekend hank no extra seven minutes for the holidays well for we agreed to the extra minutes but you know what oh for the holidays i'm gonna i'm gonna wipe that slate clean you know it's the spirit of giving especially to the less fortunate and if hank's comfortable taking the charity of having an extra pick this weekend for the holidays it's it's the time to give to charity that's this is the time of year when i opened up my pocketbook to various charities henry lockwood's going to be one of them so hank congratulations on being a charity case and happy holidays thanks yeah i was that was i was getting frustrated in the moment because it was like one of those clear signs where all you had to do is give in to hank and everyone be like hank is a charity case instead you resisted everyone's like pft scared yeah it was one of like those these games come up all the time in this office where it's like if you react correctly people are just going to be like that guy is being a bitch about it yeah so the reason for the record i didn't bring up didn't bring up an extra game.
Yeah, so the reason why I was upset about it was because Hank has been dancing around this, and then he got in Max's ear and told Max to ask for him. Right, the holidays.
For the extra game for the holidays. So I was really mad at Hank taking the ultimate coward's way out and not even bringing it up himself, and so I didn't want to give any ground to that.
But now I've had some time to think about it, and yeah, let's do, it's the season of charity giving. What were you saying, Max? I said Hank had nothing to do with that.
I just thought it would be good for the show if we had an extra game. Made it a little bit more competitive.
The pancakes are getting interesting, too. I mean, I've gone from first to last within two weeks.
Jake has been really, he's been cooking the books. Man, if Max lost this, too, and had to do a 24--hour stream.
You guys really think I'm cheating? I'll just eat the 24 pancakes. No, I don't think you're cheating.
Similar to what I was just saying with the PFT Hank thing, I like saying you're cheating so that you get upset when I will not look into it, and I trust you more than any person on this show. Appreciate it.
So that's the joke there.

Yeah.

Where it's like, you know,

it's like you didn't hit a hole in one.

No, that's true.

He did not hit. Yeah, right, exactly.

And that was explaining jokes on part of my take.

Kirk Manahan would never lie about something like that.

Okay, guys on chicks.

Hey, guys.

My boyfriend and I are in our early 30s

and have been living together for about a year now

and neither of us can surprise the other.

We agreed to find presence for each other scavenger hunt style, like gift cards towards a romantic date night, each other's favorite Christmas treat, and so on. Do you guys have any creative scavenger hunt ideas that I can surprise my boyfriend? He's an AWL, loves sports, sports betting, video games, talking shit on Twitter, and arguing football.
Oh, that means he's definitely a troll. We're also big Florida State fans.
Talking shit on Twitter. Yeah.
So he's extra down this December after getting totally robbed by the committee. Thanks, guys.
If the girlfriend knows the boyfriend likes to talk shit on Twitter, that means he has many burner accounts. It means that he's talking shit on Twitter a lot.
That there's numerous date nights during the week where she's like, what are you doing on your phone?

He's like, I'm just replying to Big Cat telling me he's a pussy.

Yeah, that means he's a prime candidate for,

I used to listen to Part My Take all the time,

then they let Max on.

I hate the show now.

Now I only listen all the time.

And I know that Max is on the show all the time because I listen all the time.

Yeah, my listening has gone from all the time to all the time.

We love those people too, by the way, for the record. I do love those people.
They're passionate. Yeah.
If you've been dating for long enough, it's hard to surprise sometimes. I may recommend a tattoo.
That's going to be my answer to everything now. It's just get a tattoo.
Surprise. Confetti bomb.
Get him a dog. That's really all you can do in terms of surprising a significant other if you've been dating them or married to them for a long time you have to make a big life decision without consulting them that is a surprise buy a house get him a car oh no here's what yeah like something that's really reckless you go out and rent a car, and then you put a giant fucking bow on it in the driveway, have him come home, I got you this car, and then like two days later, we got to take the car back.
Yeah. That would be a good surprise.
Put your life savings on a parlay. Reckless.
Surprise. Yeah.
Do people still ice each other? Is that a thing that happens? Sure. Just ice them.
Yeaht boys my boyfriend works christmas day so we're celebrating christmas eve and splitting time between his family and mine when i asked him if that's okay he said as long as my parents have sunday ticket i blame you guys for his football obsession but my question is should i be annoyed that there's football on a holiday wait he works on christ on Christmas Day? That's just watching football? Read the question again, Hank. My boyfriend works Christmas Day, so we're celebrating Christmas Eve and splitting time between his family and mine.
When I asked him if that's okay, he said as long as my parents have Sunday tickets. Christmas Eve day is a Sunday.
There's going to be NFL on all day on Sunday. Yeah, I think that's appropriate question.
But no, you shouldn't be annoyed. No, I don't like when when football is on Christmas because it's like we already have Christmas.
You already have like stuff happening. I'd rather have them be separate.
I would. But if it's on a Sunday, it's on a Sunday.
Yeah, right. There's nothing you can do about it.
But if I had to pick the perfect time, I think Christmas on Thursday is probably the best. Or Christmas Eve, Thursday.
So that way, Friday's Christmas. And then you get the extra, you know what I mean? Like you leave work on Tuesday before Christmas.
And you don't come back till the like 5th or 6th i think the perfect setup is christmas eve on wednesday wednesday okay christmas day on thursday everyone gets that day off then you have the weekend and then next week you've got new year's eve you get like two weeks off you get two weeks yeah two full weeks two full weeks off at that point that's the ideal setup listen the the nfl has us by the balls they could put an nfl game on any calendar day of the year, and we would have no choice but to watch it. Yes.
I'm not going to turn my back on the year. That's my point is like I'd rather – I'll watch the NFL no matter what.
I'd rather have it on a day when we don't have something else. If the NFL had a surprise midday game on Election Day, democracy would stop in America.
There would be no elections anymore. Ooh, Christmas is on a Wednesday next year.
Nice. Have you heard anyone talk about the NBA Christmas games this year? No, the NFL has killed them.
It's crazy. I forgot.
NBA used to be Christmas. Owned it.
That was when the NBA started. Now when's the NBA going to start? Well, is that just because the NFL has had the last three years where we've been on a weekend? I think so.
I think that's it, right? Maybe. Like, because they did the Saturday, Christmas Day, like last year there was a bunch of games.
So I think we're now out of the cycle where the NFL will take Christmas. No, they'll find out a way.
They'll figure out a way. They'll do a special Wednesday game.
Yeah. Thursday football on Wednesday.
Yeah. MLB will probably do, like, their draft on Christmas Eve, and nobody will know.
Jared hit me back just to close a loop on that. Jared Karabas, our good friend who we tried to call at, like, midnight on Sunday.
He hit me back. He said that someone from MLB texted him on Saturday night being like, are you watching this? And he replied, what are you talking about?

And the guy from the MLB was like, exactly.

This was a bad idea to do it right now.

When you've lost Jerry Karabas.

Yeah.

You've lost everyone.

You've lost America.

He didn't know.

So I just moved in with my boyfriend.

I thought it would be a fun idea if we started making nice,

elaborate dinners on Sunday since we have time to do so,

unlike during the week. He doesn't want to because every NFL Sunday he orders orders a 12 inch italian sub and a 12 inch cheesesteak for the one o'clock and four o'clock games he complains non-stop about his stomach hurts all day sunday but says it's part of the fun to be immobilized watching football all day with the food what should i do uh i mean this guy's got the plan almost perfectly right you have to have two separate meals for each game and even if you're not hungry for the four o'clock game you have to start a new meal just to give your body like a new feeling i'm putting myself through a new experience because there's a new game on i don't know all these questions just kind of like how come you guys are so degenerate when it comes to your bodies in football yeah i wish i i wish i operated a different way where like i felt good on sund.
But that's kind of crazy, right? Last couple of Sundays when dinner time comes around, I'm like, I don't even know if I want to eat. Yeah.
And then I do out of peer pressure. Maybe do a six inch for each game.
Yeah. How about that? And chips.
Two sub method. I used to do that all the time.
Just order two when you order subs and then you have one for later. Have him do all the food prep.
You can do the cooking. Yeah.
That's not a bad idea. It sounds like he's ordering a part of my cheesesteak.
Yeah. More than merry.
Plug God. Yeah.
Big Cat combo. All right.
Last one. Hey, Big Cat PFT, Big Stinky Loser Max.
Yep. I have a holiday question for you.
What is an appropriate price range for a significant other of one year love you guys good question are you pregnant if you're pregnant i think it doubles but i'm gonna

say 250 i was gonna say three to five hundred depending on how good the blowjobs are

yeah if he's really good if he's good at giving you a blowjob no i was if he's if he's good at getting head yeah yeah like i'm terrible i may be the worst person in the world at getting heads three to five yeah a year i think 500 sounds about right yeah like if you're a year's kind of serious hundreds a lot but a year's kind of serious it depends on what his financial situation's like. This could be a college kid.
True. Yeah, if you're in college, I'd say anywhere.
Yeah, college's different. A hundred bucks.
I have an adult year relationship. Is 500 not that crazy? If you're 30 or above, I would say 500 is probably in the right zone.
Once you start at 500 after a year, what's two years? Yeah, but then it goes down. Like, you go until you have to get married, and then after that, you just stop.
You just forget everything. Yeah, you stop.
I don't have to get you anything. And it's also joint bank account.
Who cares? I'm over 500 this year, for the record. Are you? Yeah, just so everyone knows.
Don't worry about it. No spoilers.
Bleep it out. Why would I? I could just not say it.
But I want to know. You could bleep it out.
I could just tell you later. I just want everyone to know.
Why bring it up on the show? You just wanted to flex that you spent $500. Is this a way? Precisely correct.
Is this a way? Is it something for yourself too though? Is it like a trip? Nope. This is what Max is doing is very sneaky.
His girlfriend's going to hear this and then she's going to be like, oh fuck, I got to get my present. No, it'll be like one of my girlfriend's friends, boyfriends will tell their- It'll get back.
It'll get back. Is it vacuum? Don't do that, dude.
I did that almost one year. I almost got a girl a Roomba, a really nice one, but like a top of the line one where like i was pumped about too and then it's like i thought what i was doing was taking away the responsibility of vacuuming no but then i thought it's just not a bad it's not a good look to get a woman a vacuum for christmas all right so 300 maybe my worst idea uh i think it fluctuates anywhere between one and five, depending on what stage of life you're in.
Definitely three figures. Yeah, I think anything over, if you're 28 or older, I think 500 is inappropriate for a year.
Because that 28 or older year relationship, that's not, you know, you're not just jumping into year relationships. Yeah.
But if you're in your like early 20s, then like 200, 300? I think it also matters whether or not this is the first christmas that they've had together they've been together for a year did you get what did you get her on the first christmas oh actually that's actually how it's decided are you spending christmas together if it's a yes then it's 500 if it's a no then it's like 200 yeah because like if it's you are then that's serious that's families that's everything also you have to take into account the flight at that age yeah it's like oh well i spent 300 on the flight so i'm only spending 100 on your gift true true all right good show boys friday oh we have our good friend julian edelman back he's gonna be in studio tomorrow all right defensive back on the all-white team yeah Yeah. I walked by.
They're simming it.

Yeah, I saw it.

We were down 12 with a minute left.

Oh, I saw the entire first half.

It looked like I think Tyreek Hill had 250 yards in the first half.

Yeah.

It looked like we were going to cover, though.

Yeah.

Yeah, because this is 12 and a half?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

All right.

Numbers.

40.

18.

71.

71.

3.

8.

20. Pug? Shane 71.
3. 8.
20.

Pug?

Shane 10, Pug 74.

What are you going to say?

Pug.

That's all I need.

I need Pug to win this. I just need need Pug What's Pug's number again? 74 74 Do that thing where you rig it but for Pug 74 Pug 100 Is that the first 100 ever? I mean, no, the old machine, every number hit.
Did we have 100 on the old machine? Come on, Max, you know this. I remember when Hank got it for the first time.
It was the last number, too. It was a crazy moment in PNT history.
Why do you need Pug to get it? Because it would be fun. Just fun to root for Pug.
Okay. Well, I mean, but you rooting for Pug means you'll never get it.
Everyone is... Like, my team wins more than everyone else's teams in this room.
But do they? Yes. But do they? That is a narrative that I am the biggest loser.
My teams are the best. But do...
Are they? Yes. You don't win anything.
No one wins anything. But you really don't win anything.
You never see any wins. No, but you have the biggest losses.
Correct. Yeah, which would make you the biggest loser.
But you are... I've won two Super Bowls, been to an NBA Finals.
Shut up. Stanley Cup Finals.
No one cares about you. You can't hang the Finals because Maxwell wiped the floor through the Finals.
I got a World Series and a Stanley Cup. In the last, whatever, 10 years? No.
Well, yeah. I mean, I have, if we're talking about 10 years.
Since the show started. Yes.
All right. Since the show started, I have a World Series.
I've only been here for a year. How many? What do you have since the show started? I have so many finals appearances.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Hang the banner. Yeah.
So don't root for Pug. I'm going to root for Pug.
All right. Well, Pug will never get it.
Pug, have you ever gotten this? I've gotten this. Have you ever gotten it? In the old one.
Pug, have you ever gotten this? I have not. Oh.
Thanks to Max. Yeah.
Pug is also an Eagles fan. Yeah, but he's a nice one.
He's different. Yeah, we're rooting for him.
You know he's different. We're rooting for Pug's Eagles.
We're not rooting for your Eagles. Hey, Memes, can we just add in a clip of

Max saying I'm a loser one more time at the

end of the show? I am going

to edit that in, which

I will do it because I just do whatever you guys say.

You're great at your

job, Max. All right, see you.

Love you guys.

I am a loser. Take me on.
I'll be gone.

After all, too.

Needless to say.

I'm all just in hands.

But please don't let it away.

Learn and learn if life is okay.

Say after me.

It's no better to be safe than sorry.

It's no better to be safe than sorry.

It's no better to be safe than sorry.

Take on me. Take me on.
I'll be gone. And I'll be gone too.
Things that you say get you in the light. Just the way my love.
All the things I've got to remember. You're shying away.
I'll be coming for you anyway.

Take on me.

Take me up.

I'll be gone.