NFL Week 15, Bills Statement Win, Lions Are Back And Kadarius Toney May Be A Sleeper Cell Sent To Destroy The Chiefs

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On today's Pardon My Take, week 15 of the NFL, we have some big things to talk about Saturday and Sunday football. The Buffalo Bills absolutely kicked the shit out of the Cowboys, and they're looking good.
We have the Lions back on track.

The Bears. Bills absolutely kick the shit out of the Cowboys and they're looking good.
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Today is Monday, December 18th.

Week 15.

I'm not going to whoop.

Whoop!

Whoop!

I have no whoops.

Duh.

Give me a whoop, Max.

Whoop!

Raiders got branched to leaf fire. We start in Detroit where Dan didn't hear no Cam Bell, and the Lions got off the mat in a big way.
Sam LeBron Porta said not one, not two, but three touchdowns as Detroit went up and down the field on the Broncos' defense. Sean Connery Payton said he doesn't think there's anything wrong with hitting your quarterback with a verbal tirade for the whole world to see as he screamed at Russell Wilson for not holding on to the rock.
Reminding everyone that there are no untouchables going into next year. Lions 42, Broncos 17.
What? We go out to the Queen City of Cincinnati where the Bengals host the Vikings. and in a tribute to our Spanish-speaking friends, we're going to spice this up with some sin-

uh- We go out to the Queen City of Cincinnati where the Bengals host the Vikings, and in a tribute to our Spanish-speaking friends, we're going to spice this up with some sin-a-men. Big Dick Nick Mullins has taken over the starting job, and he found a connection throwing some mighty ducks to Jordan Bombay Addison.
The Bengals' offense responded, giving their fans a heart attack, throwing a TD to supercharged Panera Ice-T Higgins. Very cool Jake Browning and his

roster of Mr. Positions bent the Vikings defense over, and the defense took the tush push into the

A-gap. Seven minutes in Evan McPherson stepped up big, and the Bengals are making out like bandits,

winning 27-24. In Cleveland, where the Chicago Bears once again blow a 10-point fourth-quarter

lead, leaving fans wanting to blow something else out, their brains out of the back of their heads. It was Alex Amari Cooper using the Gluck Gluck 9,000 to suck the life out of the Bears yet again as Chicago tried to make a last-second Hail Mary, only to have Darnell, you never give me your Mooney, you only put the Bears back in the funny papers as he watched the ball drop out of his hands for a loss.
Browns 20, Bears 17. What? What? Here to the deck.
Up to the frozen tundra where Tucker Carlson Kraft and Aaron Alex Jones were trying to move the Packers in the right direction, telling the Bucs D, I'll beat your goddamn ass, you son of a bitch.

You piece of shit.

You fucking goddamn fuckers.

But that didn't deter the Bucs offense.

As Coqueefed squeaked one out,

and Mike Bob Evans pulled out his big meaty sausage on the way to the end zone.

Folks, have you heard this one before?

They're saying it's no longer Lambeau Field.

And now Mayfield, as Baker owned the Packers on Sunday. Bucs 34, the Green Bay Packers 20.
Okay, we head now down to South Florida where we have our correspondent memes on the sideline. Memes.
We head down to Miami where the clock struck midnight on the Salarella story. Zach Wilson suffered a head injury from a chub.

Nailing models did his best Leo impression and fucked Zach Wilson before he turned 25.

Country roads, take me home to the place we belong.

Out of the playoffs.

Dolphins 30, Jets 0.

Okay, we head out to Foxborough

with our friend Henry Lockwood on field.

Pinbone.

In Foxborough, Billy Mbappe was in his onion bag early,

getting on the board early with a connection to Hunter Henry Rinkler,

who found a hole in the Chiefs' defense.

Patrick Berg and Mahomes couldn't hit a cow's backside with a banjo early,

throwing two interceptions,

including one right off of Kadarius Tony Soprano's hands,

who, if it were up to Chiefs fans, would end up swimming with the fishes after that performance. Kevin Kamala Harris said, we did it, Joe, after rushing in for a touchdown, but it was not enough to steal the game from the Chiefs.
Chiefs win. A lot to a little.
That was a good announcement. 27-17.
Announcement. I liked it.

I liked it.

Good job, Boom.

Thanks, Boom.

We go out to Los Angeles where Puka Mon-Go and Pikachu for Cup saw all those balls and said,

we're going to catch them all.

Meanwhile, the Washington Commanders played like absolute ash.

Cameron Three-Cheeseman and Bong Rivera helped their team get really high.

Draft picks. And I haven't seen a blue-dressed opponent put a stain on a Washington Commander's legacy like this since Monica Lewinsky.
At the end of the game, the Commies mount a furious comeback. And with damn near five minutes left and the ball at the one-yard line.
Oh, oh, oh, oh. For the wrongest time.
Oh, oh, oh. For the wrongest time.
I intend to hold L's for the wrongest time. Ron Rivera is an insane person who should not be allowed within 500 yards of a football field.
Losing to the Rams 28-20. To Buffalo, where James Cookout served up all the yards at a very reasonable price as the Cowboys defense looked like a giant drive-through.
Dak Wilson Prescott struggled to get the offense going all Sunday and in an out-of-character experience was seen running from a Cougar at Oliver all game. And Sean McDermott told his team they could learn a lot from Dr.
Robert Oppenheimer and the creation of the atomic bomb and how to stick it to McCarthyism. And, Teej,

no one circles the wagons

like the Buffalo Bills.

You were supposed to say, yeah, boom.

Teej? Yeah, boom.

No one circles the wagons

like the Buffalo Bills.

Bills 31. Cowboys 10.

Standing on a cone of Jameis Winston down in Nola Such a fine sight to see It's pregame my lord And the Giants are worn He packed his own bag and he knows it's Louie Come on DeVito You're getting beat though Don't listen to the haters who call you Guido. Saints go marching 24 to 6.
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Okay, week 15 in the books.

I apologize to everyone.

I'm losing my voice. It happens once a year.
It's very frustrating. I don't drink.
I don't party. It's all the coke.
No, I don't do anything but fucking work and parent and not sleep. And then I wake up one day a year being like, where the fuck did my voice go? Quick question, what does work entail? Does it entail talking a lot? Yeah.
That might be it. Yeah.
And not sleeping is probably not great. So fighting, I'm going to fight.
I apologize to everyone. If I wake up tomorrow and I still can't speak, I'll shut it down for a whole day.
We'll take a day off. Shut it down for a whole day.
Yeah, no, Hank. Clear my schedule.
Hank is eyeing that. You hear that? Hank is eyeing that seat.
Clear my whole goddamn schedule. Look got the Chili's 3-4 shootout.
Well, cleared. I'll just

have to be in mine. I'll have to

be like, I feel like Darko

didn't talk a lot. Hank is thinking about

sitting in that seat, taking over. I think

Hank is like kind of. No, he doesn't.

No, he's not. He's like filled the

billy roll. No, no, no.

There's one person who's filled the billy roll.

Sitting right there. Max? No.

Jake would love to sit in this seat. He would love to sit in this seat he would love to sit in this seat he's got his voice it's your guy's show um no i'm just fucking with you jake yeah i apologize everyone we're gonna get through it though uh week 15 great week of football we're great week of football we are watching the third quarter of jags ravens right now as trevor lawrence finally gets them off or on the board with an awesome touchdown pass.
They had two missed field goals in the first half, one of which hit the upright. They had a fumble inside.
Was it inside the 20? You can't even say that was a fumble. He just dropped the ball.
He got scared. Yeah.
He got spooked when he was about to get tackled. Honestly, that's what I would do if I was a quarterback.
Yeah. I'd just be like, uh.
He just was like don't it wasn't like someone hit it he just dropped the ball it could have been technically considered uh an illegal forward pass the way that he just like dropped it forward a little shovel pass forward and then yeah they had they had the debacle at the end of the half where the jaguars are just allergic to the end zone um until they they hit that deep strike but i have no idea what doug peterson was end of that half. No.
It was all time. Well, second to Ron Rivera, worst clock management.
Well, that can also be Trevor Lawrence. You've got to know situationally to spike the ball.
Or throw it to the end zone. Yeah.
But, yeah, we'll update that game once it's over. But we had this week the return of Saturday football.
So we're going to start with Saturday. We'll go in chronological order on Saturday, then we'll hop into Sunday.
But Saturday football, Saturday NFL, it sneaks up on us every year. It's always a nice little treat.
But there is that moment, like, I don't know what you were doing on Saturday, but like Bengals, Vikings, I had to be like, I had to kind of get everyone in my household understanding like, hey, there's NFL about to be on. Yeah.
Just so you know, like I know this is not normal, but like dad's going to go and watch the NFL right now. I had to basically what you have to do is you have to give up your Friday night.
Yeah. I went to a holiday market on Friday night that I was going to go to on the Saturday to buy Christmas gifts, which is not how I would ideally like to spend my Friday evening.

So you get those chores out of the way on Friday,

and then you can be a total piece of shit all day long on Saturday.

My only request to the NFL, and I remember last year,

the game that was on that Saturday was the Jeff Saturday game,

where it was the Colts against the Vikings.

The comeback.

Where they had the historic comeback, which was an awesome game.

But I would prefer if those games don't start until maybe a little bit later on the afternoon. Yeah.
Noon is early. Do like the weird time that you start the game that you kick off like on like Thanksgiving where you maybe kick off at like two 30.
Yeah. Kick off at like three 30 or something like that for the first game.
Give me, uh, give me some time to like be a human being on Saturday before I have to just be like physically part of my couch for the next two days yes and it was also i mean bowl games college basketball games it was i love this time of year it's like what do i want to do i want to sit on my couch and watch everything i'll tell you what this game was though the bangles vikings this was max case and point for you um this is what the eagles need to show the competition committee to like, you should not ban the tush push because it's not an automatic first down. Turns out that when you have a player that weighs probably about as much as Hank lining up behind center, trying to push your quarterback forward, doesn't really work that way.
Well, he also fumbled the snap. Yeah.
That also didn't help. But yeah, Max is so annoying that every time the tush push doesn't work, he just goes on a tirade where he's like, thought it was automatic.
You guys do it the best. I don't think anyone disagrees.
The Eagles do it the best. But yes, that was a tough look.
This was also a game that we had. The Vikings, it felt like they completely squandered an opportunity to get even further into the playoff picture because they were up 17-3 with like four minutes left in the third quarter.
They had completely confused Jake Browning for two and a half quarters. And then the Bengals come roaring back.
T. Higgins with one of the coolest catches ever when he caught it with his back to the end zone and was able to twist the ball around the defender.
And it was just like time and time again the Vikings. Like I know Nick Mullins looked better than Josh Dobbs because everyone does, but those two interceptions, especially the one where he's falling to the ground.
That was so funny. That was when wanting to make a play goes wrong.
Like there's points where it's like, hey, dude, it's okay to take a sack. Well, he couldn't believe that it got picked off after he got swung to the ground and he tries to just throw the ball away and it ended up being i think we'll have to get some sort of stat like amazon web services or whatever jeff bezos's stat machine is tell me if that was the shortest thrown interception of the time because it might have been i think it was like a two-foot pass mullins was trying to throw it away and then as mullins is getting up he's motioning to the referee that wasn't a fumble i passed it i threw that that's like no no we got a guy it was like a two-foot pass.
Mullins was trying to throw it away, and then as Mullins is getting up, he's motioning to the referee.

That wasn't a fumble. I passed it.

I threw that. It's like, no, no, we got a guy.

It's like, no, it actually hit the guy in his face,

then in his dick, then his knee.

Then he caught it and was like, oh, holy shit.

Here's a football. I have a football now.

Yeah, just like, I'm going to go

down trying to make a play. Sometimes just

don't make that play. But yeah,

I walked away from it being like, well, so

the Bengals are

very much live for the playoffs.

Are they in the playoffs right now? I think they would be, yes.

I think they're a sixth seed.

And the Vikings

they should have won that game.

They weren't able to close it out.

But now, I'm back to being

like, Bengals, team of destiny,

Nick Foles, Jake Browning, like, that first half, Jake Browning looked bad. You're like, oh, shit.
This is why he's the backup. And then the second half, he kind of woke up and started figuring some stuff out.
And the Bengals are, I can't believe that the Bengals are like actually kind of a scary team. They're feisty.
Right now, they'd be the sixth seed. They would travel to Kansas City.
The jabroni mayor of Cincinnati would get his chance at revenge. They also had a bunch of injuries.
They get injuries every game. They do, yeah.
Jay Reader. I came away not so much impressed with Nick Mullins.
I think I'd just forgotten about Nick Mullins. Because every time he plays, I'm like, oh, yeah, this dude's got a little shit to him.
He's got a little gunslinger on him. Yeah.
And the throw that he had to Jordan Addison, which was the all-time no no no no no yes throw where he just like whipped it across his body let jordan make a play on it um those are the plays that you get with big dick nick yeah the nick mullins is uh a great case of if you just take out the two red zone interceptions he had a great game yeah and i feel like you can say that almost every time that one was kind of a fluke kind of a fluke interception but yeah he will he will make a couple plays where that's why i think he's like the he's the ultimate like backup gunslinger right yeah i don't think a team will ever commit to nick mullins as being like the guy ever but he's fun at least you'll say this about nick when he plays you want to watch the game because he's going to do some crazy shit that's awesome. He's going to do some crazy shit that's stupid.
Yeah, and I like Nick Mullins. I think he might be a listener to the show.
We got to get Nick Mullins either an ice bath for his face or one of those things that you rub, the chicks rub. Yeah.
He was looking a little puffy. I rubbed one out the other day with one of those ice things on my face.
Okay. Yeah, no.
I actually rubbed two out because it was both my eyes. Those are very...
They work. They work.
You're doing a lot of cosmetic changes right now. Well, no.
I had one in my freezer and I was like, you know what? I had a couple drinks on Friday night at the holiday festival. I'm going to rub my face out and it felt awesome.
Yeah, I feel like... I highly recommend that.
I feel like Nick Mullins might have just continued with his holiday plans of drinking on a random Thursday night or whatever. Yeah.
Not realizing he had to start an NFL game. But I do like watching him play.
He raises the ceiling for what the Vikings offense was with Josh Dobbs, who was pathetic the last couple times. Yeah, that was pretty bad the last couple weeks watching Josh Dobbs.
You know what Nick Mullins has? It's not like resting bitch face. It's resting stung by B's face.
Yeah. It always looks red and swollen a little bit.
It feels like he got hit by a shovel. He looks like the wet bandits.
Yeah. Like the iron came down and hit him when he was walking up the stairs of the facility.
Yeah. But to your point about the Bengals being like a team of destiny, they definitely believe.
They think that they can win. Yeah.
That's half the battle. They're fighting hard every single game.
I think they have tiebreakers over, like, everyone, too. I think they beat the – I think they beat the – oh, no, they lost to the Texans.
But they beat the Bills. This is tiebreaker season.
They beat the Colts, who will be right around them. Yeah.
AFC, there's no rhyme. The AFC playoffs, I will not be shocked pretty much with any team that gets to the Super Bowl at this point.
Yeah, you could see. What team would shock you? The Colts make it to the Super Bowl.
Colts, okay. But that will most likely be, if that's not the Colts, if the seventh seed is the Bills.
Yeah. And it's Ravens, Dolphins, Chiefs, Jaguars, Browns, Bengals, Bills.
I feel like I'd be most shocked out of all those teams to see the Jaguars make it. Yeah.
But, like, it's crazy how wide open the AFC playoffs have become. It is, yeah.
So the Bengals, what's the spread? I guess the spread next week. They're traveling to Pittsburgh.
Bengals at the Steelers. I'm going to say Steelers minus one.
I think it might be Bengals minus one. Steelers look real bad.
What do we got? We've got Bengals minus two and a half. So your formula says take the Steelers.
Yeah, well, alright, so let's just segue to it because the Colts 30, Steelers 13, that was the second game. The Steelers were actually up 13-0 in this game, and Michael Pittman got hurt, and Zach Moss got hurt, and you would have been like, this is this was finding out Santa Claus isn't real because this was the death of the Mike Tomlin spot.
Mike Tomlin had two back-to-back games as a home favorite by almost a touchdown both times. Loses outright.
Has to rally the troops. They're underdogs.
They couldn't look worse. This was the moment that you're like, Mike Tomlin will find a way to have the Steelers win this game.
And it started going as planned too. With the punt block, up 13 nothing.
And it just the Colts went ripped off 30 straight points the Steelers didn't even come close to scoring again Mike Tomlin it's this actually the first time I've been like it might be over it might be over for Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh it was a bad bad showing in the second half TJ Watt looked really good considering he was coming off a concussion or excuse me coming off definitely not having a yeah where he had to change his visor to be the dark tinted he looked good in the first half he looked good in the first half but then the Colts just ran the fuck out of it they emasculated they ran the fuck out of it and you see the stats that they put up with like a three-headed monster in the backfield no Jonathan Taylor for the Colts yep and you think maybe maybe Jim Irsay shouldn't have gone and paid all that money to Jonathan Taylor because he felt guilty about flying a whale across the country and spending more money on that than running back well because the whale died he didn't have to spend all that money yeah but it was a bad you think he he had that money laying around because the whale died yeah like domino effect the whale correct jonathan taylor now he's like there's someone some pipsqueak with like a pocket protector and glasses walked into ursay's's office one day. It was like, Mr.
Ursae, the whale died. So by my calculations, we have $40 million that have just opened up.
Your sick whale budget just became completely free right now. So you can distribute that as you see fit.
Yeah, I don't. Ursae was like, at the time, he was getting bad PR because of the Zach Taylor thing.
Or not the Jonathan Taylor thing. And he said to himself, you know what will fix this? I've got just the right idea.
I'll get some good PR going by flying the whale. And everybody will be like, thank you, Mr.
And then instead, the reaction was, how can you fly a whale? Like Hank has been talking about for a while. Yeah, it's impossible to fly a whale.
But yeah, the moral of this story was the Colts can run the damn football. Yes.
When they run the damn ball, then everything else opens up.

I don't even know if it's the Colts can run the damn football.

It's just the Steelers' defense is like everything about the Steelers is bad.

Yeah.

And I'm actually happy.

I think Steelers fans are happy that like them lucking their way into the playoffs would have sucked.

Because I want to see there are seven teams.

We just listed them that I could see making a miracle run to the Super Bowl. The Steelers can't win a single game.
They're going to get Kenny back. When they get Kenny back anything could happen.
It's bad watching it. I'm going to say something that's really sad Hank.
I need you to listen to this. I think it might be over for Mitch.
Yeah, that was a bad showing. It was a bad showing by Mitch.
It was also a bad showing by Pickens. It's really – Yo, Pickens not run blocking? Not run blocking at all.
I feel like the Steelers lead the league in having position players with just real bad visuals this year in terms of giving up on plays. That's what I'm saying.
Like Tomlin, he would have bad – his team would have bad moments, but he would always be able to get them back on track and win a game that they're underdogs and everything looks terrible. That Tomlin might be done.
He might need to go somewhere else. You have to have a sliding scale of talent where you have Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell, and they're just absolutely destroying the locker room behind the scenes.
Yeah. But they're still really fucking good when they play.
Right, you can handle that. With Pickens and Deontay this year, they've given up on film multiple times throughout the season, and they're not good enough to be able to just quit.
Didn't you say it too, that Big Ben said that this is the end of the Steelers as we know it? Steelers culture is done. It does feel like that.
This was the game they were supposed to win.

And when they're up 13-0, you're like, they're going to win this game.

Yeah.

I actually think next week is the game that they're supposed to win.

This will be, are the Steelers, as a culture, definitively dead yet?

Because.

Yeah, no, them beating the Bengals would make sense.

A home game.

It's an underdog.

Divisional underdog.

Probably play Renegade a couple times. TJ will be ready to go.
Backup quarterback for the Bengals would make sense. A home game.
It's an underdog. A divisional underdog.
Probably play Renegade a couple times. TJ will be ready to go.
Backup quarterback for the Bengals. I feel like that's where we can pinpoint and be like, this is the end of the Steelers era.
Yes, yes. I also would like to say that I have officially decided I am only going to do one coach of the year vote, and it's going to be for Shane Steichen.
Okay. I've decided that.
I usually split my votes. The fact that the Colts are 8-6, Gardner Minshew playing good football, they're a fun team to watch.
It's crazy. The whole thing is crazy.
Teams aren't supposed to be expected to be bad and then be this competent. It's not even like they're an incredible team.
It's just their competence level is so high. They're well coached all the time.
Details are perfect for them. He's a first-year coach.
He's a first-year coach doing a great job. My coach of the year vote, I'm going to split mine.
I think Shane Steichen is definitely deserving. I think I'm going to give one to D'Amico Ryans in Houston and then Seanermott how funny would it be if sean mcdermott won coach of the year this year that would be great it'll be his speech would be awesome i must see tv yeah nfl honors night have aaron rogers introduce me i'll have a lot to talk about i think that uh the colts will make the playoffs the the segment they did with gardner minshu they're talking about the van yeah was it tariko that was doing that game? Yeah.
Tirico was pretending to be grossed out about how Gardner Minshew lives in a van at a local gym and he plays pickleball against old women. And basically, without saying in so many words, they were like, Gardner Minshew bangs all the cougars down in Florida.
Yeah. He bangs so many cougars that he just brings them to his van so that they can't sleep over and then gets the next one.
It sounds like a great offseason for Gardner. Yes.
PFT, I think, now this is going to be something I shouldn't write a check for us. I don't know if we can cash, but let's just say it, okay? If the Colts, they could win the AFC South.
If the Jaguars lose this game right now, I think they'd be tied. They have split, I believe, their games this year, right? I believe so.
If the Colts have a home playoff game and it's played on that Saturday, most likely, I think we have to go. That is a big track.
I think we have to go. Was that January 14th? I think we have to go.
Also, it was Rich Eisen on the call and Kurt Warner. Oh, yeah, then we should go so we don't have to hear that.
No, it wasn't Tariq. It was Rich Eisen just chuckling to himself, thinking about Gardner banging moms.
Yeah. I just couldn't help but think about how mad Kurt probably was that there was a dome.
Yeah. No, he was loving it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he loves it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's probably why Ursa closed the roof, because he was like, Kurt's going to be just going to rip me a new asshole.
I want to see that puffy vest. All right, we'll put that.
We'll table it. Maybe we will go.
I'm a firm maybe on that one. It's only a little drive.
Yeah. Do I get free playoff tickets if I'm a season ticket holder? No, I don't think so.
Fuck. You have to pay for them.
Yeah. Well, that was why I was, I wasn't going to, the only reason I was going to say because we have season tickets.
That was the only reason. Maybe we go down there, interview Mr.
Ursa before the game. You think you'd want to do an interview right before a playoff game? I think he'd be fine with it.

Yeah.

Do it during.

Yeah.

Sit in his box, get in Mr. Ursae's box.

He would probably let us.

Yeah.

I think he could.

We could be in his box.

I could see myself in Mr. Ursae's box.

Yeah.

A couple guys in his box.

We're fun guys.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Okay.

Last game for Saturday.

Lions 42, Broncos 17 um the lions are back they kick the shit out of the broncos i feel like this was a fraud uh passing of the torch like everyone's saying lions you know fraud their defense not great the broncos are the real fraud that was an ass kicking up and down The Lions started the game with three punts They then went on five straight touchdown drives For 80 yards, 61 yards 81 yards, 75 yards, 75 yards Yeah, Sam Laporta was awesome Jameer Gibbs was everywhere Yeah, Laporta's got to be one of the Top five tight ends in the league right now As a rookie, really they did take a couple shots deep to jameson at the start of the game which i've been saying for weeks like just do that he's so fucking fast just tear it out stretch the defense out a little bit uh yeah the offensive game plan was awesome for for the lions and then and also their defense played well which is what you need to see and they actually like they played pretty well although i still think the the broncos just suck well what happened with that that fake offsides call that they had yeah like fake did they line up in the neutral zone so the helmet was in the neutral zone then they uh so they they score a touchdown i think they might have scored a touchdown on the play then they call it back then sean payton just starts ripping into russell wil He assumed that it was Russell's fault. He assumed it was Russell Wilson's fault.
Meanwhile, as he's ripping into Russell Wilson, he's having them go out there for a field goal to make a three-score game a three-score game. Yeah.
Take it from 28-7 to 28-10. Yeah.
Sean Payton feels like, yeah, I get it. Russell Wilson, not the old Russell Wilson.
I also feel like Sean Payton is just like throwing a shitload of blame on a Russell Wilson when he probably needs some blame, too, for it felt like the team was not ready for this game. He accomplished the impossible in that moment, which is we felt bad.
Yes. Yes.
Like we took Russell Wilson side and we sympathize with him. Like that sucks that your coach is doing that to you.
I didn't think that was possible for me to feel that way about him. But, yeah, he was not the one who was wrong.
The Broncos, they're kind of clinging to it right now. I could still see them in the playoffs.
Their schedule is so easy. So, actually, Jake, you need to set a reminder for us.
They're playing the Patriots and the Chargers at home and then at the Raiders if the broncos make the playoffs i will bet everything i have against them they're they're not good they're lucky they're not good also the baby bump worked russell wilson scored yeah he did yeah true yeah now that's his kid his kid he gave birth yes gotcha yeah why the buddy pregnant why the buddy pregnant um it was good though to see the lions get their like groove back but i yeah i think the Broncos suck. Yes.
Gotcha. Yeah.
Why the buddy pregnant? Why the buddy pregnant? It was good, though, to see the Lions get their, like, groove back. But, yeah, I think the Broncos suck.
I really do. I know that people are like, oh, that's bullshit.
They've turned it around. They turned it around with smoke and mirrors.
I know they beat the Chiefs. That was nice.
That Bills get – like, if the Broncos can't get, like, three turnovers all in plus territory, they're just, like, they're shit out of luck now do we do we officially take the lions off fraud watching this game because i think they just beat a fraud if if you beat a fraud does that make you not a fraud i don't know it's like catch me if you can if you're a fraud and you get hired that's to find out who who the fraud is are you still a fraud are you still fraud? They have an opportunity. The Lions have an opportunity week 17 when they go to Dallas.
Yeah. If they can beat the Cowboys in Dallas, that might be the fraud bowl.
Oh, if they beat the – no, the fraud bowl is next week. Dolphins-Cowboys.
Yeah. That is the fraud bowl.
That's literally whoever loses that game will be a fraud. The Cowboys are playing back-to-back-to-back fraud bowls.
Yeah. Well, no, the Bills were never a fraud team.
They were just snake-bitten. They were just not good.
Yeah. But they were also, when they are good, they're not a fraud.
Yeah, when they're good, they can beat any team in the NFL. Yeah, a fraud is like a front-running— Cowboys, I think, are the leaders in the fraud watch right now.
I would say the Lions aren't off fraud watch, but they definitely

take a nice step back because

their defense played really well.

Their offense, when it's humming,

if they get a home playoff

game, which they're very close to getting,

by the way, if the Seahawks lose,

the Lions officially clinch the playoffs,

which would be great.

If the Lions get a home playoff game, I'm

very bullish on the Lions winning that home

playoff game. It's when the Lions have to go on the road.
And this isn't like anti-Lions because it's like, who would feel good about going on the road against San Francisco right now? Yeah, no one. That has nothing to do with the Lions not being good.
They are very good. It's just if they went on the road to San Franciscoisco i don't know if they can win that game what's crazy about the nfc is there's there's a chance like a pretty good chance that two nfc south teams make the playoffs oh i know because the i know the saints are the saints are in the playoffs right now and the the vikings have to play the lions twice correct so they that's going to be a tough schedule no the packers have shit all over themselves the saints rams rams game next week actually is like a huge playoff Lions twice.
Correct. So they that's going to be a tough schedule.
No the Packers have shit all over themselves. The Saints

Rams game next week actually is

like a huge playoff game. Yeah.

Thursday night too. Yeah Thursday night.

But yeah no there's the

Saints. We could get the Saints and

the Bucs. Jesus.
Yeah

it's crazy. I don't know what that does to

my calculation about NFC South

coaches getting fired. I still feel

like it's every team that doesn't win the division.

Yeah, if you make the playoffs, you're not going to get fired.

Yeah, if you're right around 500.

I don't know.

If you get in as a wild card, the Saints might still fire.

I think if he finds a way to get in the playoffs,

because they'd have to win two out of the last three,

you could say they finished strong.

They got hot, yeah.

Either way, that was an awesome game for the Lions.

That was what the Lions needed needed because they had gone what it felt like four weeks a month where yeah they went two and two in the last four but they have not looked really good in those four games and dan campbell said he's gonna be more irritable he's gonna have to push him him harder. And then we saw it.
That was what the Lions looked like early on in the season when everything's clicking on offense and Jared looks great and Jameer Gibbs. They have so many weapons when everything's working that I love watching them play football.
It's fun to watch the Lions play football. It is.
And they get C.J. Gardner-Johnson back next week maybe.
He's practicing now. Yeah.
That's going to be a bit. Yeah, you can definitely tell yourself that the Lions, maybe their defense is getting good.
Yeah, we talked. You only really have to believe that the defense is getting good because then you might accidentally play good.
So if you shut down the Vikings twice and you hold your own against Dallas and you get a good, important player like that back, you can go into the playoffs being like,

yeah, our defense is fixed.

Jeff Saturday told us on Friday, just get guys lined up right.

Yeah.

Yeah, just if you're a Lions fan, you just got to walk around being like,

once we get guys lined up right, we'll be fine.

Yeah.

That's it.

That's all it takes. Not a lack of skill.

Get guys lined up right.

Okay.

Let's go to Sunday.

We'll start with the browns and bears uh browns 20 bears 17 i'll start with the browns because i'd like to give the browns a shitload of credit the browns have had so many injuries they had at one point i think during this, they were on their third right tackle, third center, backup left tackle, backup guard. They've had so many injuries to every place on the football field, and they're so resilient and their defense shows up in big moments, and Joe Flacco, that pass he made to Amari Cooper to tie the game, it was a tight window with three dudes right around him, and the Browns deserve all the credit in the world for being this tough, hard-nosed team that has had so many chances to quit on the season and have always answered the bell.
And if you're a Browns fan, I know this season's been weird, disorienting, everything. Right now, you have to be just proud of your football team.
Yeah, Flacco can throw the dick out of the ball. That pass was so pretty.
It was sick. Right in between the zone.
Iberflus gave kind of a loser answer to it after the game. He said that that ball should have been intercepted.
He's like, if we make that play again, we'd probably pick him off. Well, he's a loser.
That was a designed interception, according to Matt Iberflus. Yeah.
Usually, they break quicker on the ball than that, so he has no regrets about the play call. Maybe, okay, at least just say, like, we should have tackled the guy after he caught it.
Yeah. Like, you can say we had the right coverage.
It was a better throw. At the very least, give credit to Flacco for making a great throw on that one.
Flacco loves Cooper, and he loves David Njoku. Yeah, he does.
And the Bears' defense is not the problem in this game. So here's a fun stat.
Since 2015, teams with 3-plus sacks, 3-plus interceptions, and a pick 6 were 40-0. Now they're 40-1.
Thank you, Bears. Also, here's a fun stat.
No head coach has ever lost multiple games in a single year despite owning a 10-point lead and a plus-two turnover margin, until today. Matt Eberflus, come on down.
Setting records, baby. I would like to say, and get ahead of this before the end of the season, when the Justin Fields debate happens, because it's going to happen.
It's already happening a little bit. We should adjust his stats at the end of the year, because he had two interceptions today, both on Hailys and the first one shouldn't even count the first one was not an interception and fields was like lobbying with the ref at halftime like hey call that an incomplete pass that wasn't a pick he was trying to get it reviewed yeah before they went into the locker room which he should have because that wasn't an interception and then the one at the end that was in mooney's hands mooney was holding it it like a baby.
He was cradling. He was swaddling the football and then he kicked it up into the Browns' hands.
Such an insane way to lose. Those should not count as interceptions and he had a dropped touchdown.
Robert Tanyan. Robert Tanyan just dropped a wide open touchdown.
So in my personal book for Justin Fields at the end of the season, I will be adjusting his stats to include one more touchdown and two fewer interceptions. No, and I don't want to do this again.
I don't want to do this again. With a Justin Fields convo? No, I just like this was a gateway game.
I talked about it on Friday. This is a gateway to my happiness.
I was legitimately excited for this game. I legitimately thought the Bears could win this game.
Their defense played really well. I agree

with you. Justin Fields was not like

the glaring problem. Offensive

line couldn't block today. Receivers

dropping balls. Execution

in the fourth quarter. Like, time

and time again, you start a drive.

It's run, run, and then be like, hey,

Justin, get us, you know, 12

yards here on third down when everyone's

expecting it. It's not winning football.

That's not how you can, like, conduct an

All right. It's run, run, and then be like, hey, Justin, get us 12 yards here on third down when everyone's expecting it.
It's not winning football. That's not how you can conduct an offense.
So I'm tired of everything. I actually have decided, PFT, I think what's best for my health.
I'm just going to say whatever Ryan Pouls does, I'm cool with. You're trusting Pouls.
Yeah. You're trusting the process.
Well, guess what? Montez Sweat's a fucking beast. Yeah, he is awesome.
Right? Two and a half sacks today. And we have the number one pick? I think Montez Sweat is now leading two teams in sacks this year.
Yeah. And we have the number one pick for a reason, Ryan Pouls.
So I'm just going to – I don't want to do the – whatever happens, I'm good with. I'll just do whatever Ryan Pouls says we're doing.
I'm just going to be like, you know what? That's what we're doing. I'll sayin fields he's not he's not bad enough to be generating the type of insult stats and insult graphics that are going around about him he's he's a decent quarterback he plays the game a little bit differently so his stats aren't always like glaringly obvious like oh look how many yards this guy threw right but he's he's decent but i don't know i don't know if you think that Caleb Williams is as good as advertised.

You can't pass up drafting him.

You can't.

I'm just telling you.

You're going to regret that.

Oh, that was.

Oh, geez.

We just watched Keaton Mitchell hurt his knee very badly.

Oh, no. That was a very Ravens thing.

Moment of silence.

That was bad.

You missed it. His knee just like popped real bad.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. Caleb Williams, the whole thing, the financials.
I just, and I get it. I have to debate it.
I will debate it. I just, after a loss like today, losing a game where I got my hopes up that the Bears were going to make a run to a potent – like, yes, I know a lot of shit had to happen, but Falcons and Cardinals at home, I was like, Bears could maybe make week 18 at Lambeau like a super meaningful game.
I was excited at that proposition. Losing the way they lost today, I just don't really – I want to opt of uh like future quarterback discussions for like 24 hours yeah but you also you're gonna have a nice look at the playoff machine you need that nerd steve kornacki to give you a full-on breakdown about what happens if you finish eight and nine and no i don't want to do it no today was no no no no no no i'm.
I'm trying to open up that gateway. No, no.
I'm staying firm. When I have a gateway game, if we lose it, it's over.
It's over. It's over.
Could get back open. No, it's over.
I'm being honest. I'm being realistic.
I don't want to play this game. This was the game they had to win.
If they won this game, I would have my hopes all the way up. They did not.
It makes me realize getting your hopes up for your sports teams is the dumbest thing you could possibly do as a human being. There's no reason for it.
Nothing ever good happens out of it. There's just nothing on the other side.
But how nice would it be if it was you and Green Bay, winner makes the playoffs, and you beat the Packers? It's all I wanted. Well, the Packers stink too.
Yeah. Hold on, I'm looking right now at the uh it's the bears are the fifth pick right now first and fifth first and fifth yeah i'm on tank-a-thon big time right now yeah i just i i don't know i after a game like today it's like if you look at this if you look at the box score you're like justin field stinks if you watch the game you're like there's a lot of other problems that need to be fixed so maybe that's the answer just fix all the other problems but whatever that was a that was a brutal way for them to lose that game because you knew as soon as the like you just knew how it was going it's gone this way for two years now where it's like the three and outs start coming in a flurry and you're like uh-oh this is about to be a really tight game even though the bears like kind of dominated for the first three quarters oh they did yeah flacco on the flacometer he was their defense dominated their offense yeah flacco was a bum for the first three quarters yes and then it's like elite elite that's what flack that's why it's so confusing because you have to almost like men in black yourself and take the take the device out and make you forget all the boneheaded mistakes that he made yeah because.
Because he thinks he can make every throw. The one play that the Bears defender made where it was at the goal line right after they got the muff punt, Flacco throws that pick.
That was one of the best interceptions ever. Yes, yes.
That was incredible. That was incredible.
I don't even know if that was a bad throw by Flacco as much as it was just a great play. Yeah, there was – I mean, the Bears defense was legitimately flying around today and playing, like, really good football.
By the way, Keaton Mitchell did not look good walking off the field. That's just a – that's just like a Ravens running back thing, huh? Yeah.
Oh, he gave him a thumbs up. Final tap.
Yeah, no, you're talking about Stevenson's interception. It was incredible.
Yeah. And yeah, no, the Bears defense makes me feel good, makes me feel warm inside.
Everything else, I'm just going to trust Ryan Pohl's. And credit to the Browns for being like, I want the Browns to fucking go on a run now.
Blacko is like so much fun to watch. The fact that he's out there doing this is insane.
And the fact that he makes so many people mad. Yeah, made $75,000 today Yeah, shout out He actually did our podcast joke in real life He gets in Bored Apes Yeah, he gets $75,000 an episode Per win And then in the playoffs he gets like $100,000, $200,000, $500,000, $1 million, $2 million, something like that Imagine if he got a check for $2 million for winning a football football game yeah that'd be sick yeah this is what i'm saying should have made it like a billion dollars yeah because if you're well i don't understand why owners don't do that i don't know maybe it's illegal but if you're an owner like if you had as much money how much money does jimmy has them have uh billions let me see billions net worth you should give him discounts on on pilot flying jay gas for eight eight point eight billion dollars if i had eight point eight billion dollars and i owned an nfl franchise and i would definitely put in for my quarterback i'd be like if you win a super bowl i'll give you 200 million dollars it's so worth it 200 million dollars but you have to bet it against me in one hand of blackjack war and if i beat yeah in war yeah If I beat you, you don't get any worth it.
$200 million, but you have to bet it against me in one hand of blackjack.

War.

And if I beat you, you don't get any of it.

And if you beat me, it doubles.

I like that.

We should be NFL owners.

Yeah.

We'd be so much better than Tepper.

He would want to come play for us.

Yeah, for sure.

Why wouldn't you?

$200 million.

Probably get investigated.

$200 million, maybe.

That's what the contract says.

Yeah. $200 million bonus if you win the Super Bowl, maybe if you have the balls yeah yeah if you're man enough yeah uh okay moving on bear season over i want everyone to just respect me i'm not i appreciate you trying to be like hey look at the playoff machine just respect my wishes i'm addicted to it's over this was the gateway game i've never

won a gateway game my happiness doesn't deserve it it is what it is uh okay the one thing i did have that was happy today was the bucks 34 packers 20 so i got roasted this was this actually i i take a little blame for the bears lost today because i got roasted so we have seven games on i was very into the Bears game today.

It was my gateway game.

So I wasn't watching every second of the Packers game. I looked over, and it was at the end of the game when Jordan Love had a fumble.
And I sent out a tweet being like, he sucks. And all the Packers fans were like, no, he was fucking great today.
What I should have said was the Packers defense sucks because they got absolutely torched by baker mayfield so i take it back jordan love played well today the packers defense was a joke of a unit today and the packers went from no one wants to play them in the playoffs to are these guys gonna actually get in the playoffs yeah so they've uh they've lost back-to-back games to tommy devito and baker mayfield yep. Tommy dropped 24 on him.
Baker dropped 34 on him. Baker looked great today.
Four touchdown passes, 381 yards. If I'm the Bucs, I think I might just run it back with Baker next year.
Why not? Why not? You're probably going to make the playoffs, probably going to win the division. Yeah, we talked about it on Friday.
I agree with you. Yeah, bring Baker back.
Baker, I still go back to the way Cleveland just kind of like flushed him down the toilet. Yeah.
He was the best quarterback that Cleveland's seen in a long time. Certainly like the best one that they've drafted in a long time.
He also played. Yeah.
Like they can't keep a guy healthy now. Because he wasn't perfect.
And there were some throws where you're like, well, I wish that maybe he had taken some time to heal himself before coming back and trying to gut through it. Guess what? That's not Baker's call.
Of course, the player's going to want to play all the time. Your coach has to be like, no, Baker, you can't play with a torn labrum.
Right. Shut it down for a little bit.
The Browns, like, really fucked up by getting rid of Baker Mayfield. And then he was on the Panthers, and everyone was like, oh, Baker stinks.
No, he just caught an acute case of Pantheritis, and he had to get that out of his system. Matt Rule was his coach.
Matt Rule. He had full-blown Panthers, which is not a position.
It's almost unrecoverable. Yes.
And he got a bad deal in Cleveland, bad deal in Carolina, looked okay for the Rams in spot duty. Yep.
He came in. I still think Baker Mayfield is a good NFL quarterback.
He's like in that above average tier he was 22 for 28 381 yards for touchdown this is his best game since the browns like he was incredible today and the packers defense stinks they absolutely stinks back-to-back weeks like and bigger mayfield's better than tommy devito who will get to but think about it they you know tommyito drives to that field goal win on Monday night, and then Baker Mayfield, every time you looked up, the Bucs had a guy wide open running down the field. Do we need to talk about LaFleur as being a coordinator killer? You know how when you have a quarterback that's a coach killer that gets slapped to that label? LaFleur might be a coordinator killer.
So he's fired three coordinators in five years as the Green Bay Packers coach.

And it looks like Joe Barry is probably going to get fired.

What coordinators did he fire?

Let's see.

Hackett didn't get fired.

He got promoted.

He got hired as a head coach.

He got big time promoted.

Yeah, but no, he's fired three coordinators. This would be the fourth if Joe Barry gets fired.
Wait, so who else, though, did he fire? I'm just wondering what side of the ball. I don't have the list in front of me right now.
I'm just saying coordinators in general. Like, LeFleur exists on a plane above his coordinators where he has a great sense of who his fall guy is going to be at all times.
I know that Packers fans have hated Joe Barry for a couple years now. I'm trying to remember who their coordinator was before that.
The thing is, Packers fans all have just wanted Jim Leonard to be their coordinator for the longest time. Hold on.
Mike Pettin was before Joe barry i believe yes yeah so yeah the the defensive coordinator for the packers i think is always just the the most hated guy in green bay yeah feels like yeah because he is the cure to all your answers if you have a an offensive minded head coach yeah and you have aaron rogers as your quarterback what are you going to do you're not going to fire like aaron rogers best friend right so it's like okay well we need to fire somebody else who has the title of coordinator yes but yeah the Packers are I I that happened so fast that they were they beat the Chiefs on Sunday Night Football and I mean hand up I probably shouldn't have crowned them as a team definitely going to the playoffs bad analysis by me I apologize that was sloppy but two weeks later and it's like this team stinks their defense can't stop anyone they need to kick in the ass they need to have they need to put matt lafleur on sabbatical and have rich basaccia step in just coach him for one week just ass kicker i actually think that rich basaccia could walk into matt lafleur's office and be like hey matt you're fired yeah you're fired. Yeah.
And Matt LaFleur would be like, yes, sir. Yeah.
Okay, no problem. They do play the Panthers next week, so I will have to root for the Packers next week.
That'll be nice, yeah. Yeah, that should cure a lot of the problems.
I've decided, big cat cover your ears, I've decided that I want the Packers to keep winning and I want the Bears to keep winning, and then I want a week 18 game between the Packers and the Bears winner gets into the playoffs how awesome would that it's already done no but that's they had to both win today it's over that was my point that was the gateway I don't know if today was the gateway I told you to close your ears you weren't supposed to hear that's true no but today was it you can't the Bears You can't. The Bears can't.
They're fucking 5-8, dude. 5-9.
What's their path? Everyone else losing a million games. Yeah.
It's not possible. They didn't get the giant graphic.
No, it's not possible. They're still in the hunt.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, they can't. It's stupid.
But they can. But they can't.
Jake, can you come up with a formula that has the Packers and the Bears meeting in the last day was the day and the winner gets in if both teams won today it would have been like collision course that would have been the ultimate it still could happen i just not gonna happen you should have rooted harder today for the bears i took my eye off the ball yeah you took your eye off the ball you wanted something that was i don't like i had a lot of emotional ties with joe flacco i've been spending the whole week thinking about this. Today was the day it had to happen, and it didn't happen.
I got Jake on it. Packers defense sucks.
But Jordan Love did look good. I mean, I went back and watched some clips because I wanted to correct myself.
That's how much I take my job. You want to get it right.
Yeah. He was making some really nice throws.
We try not to be wrong. Yeah.
I was in the moment wrong because I watched a fumble that was very funny to me. And it was also a fourth down fumble, so it didn't really matter to defend him a little, even though I don't want to.
But yeah, Jordan Love was not the problem. Their defense gave up 381 yards to Baker Mayfield.
And then i think even they were getting gashed the run game too it was just bad all around let's see what was it yeah they gave up 100 yards uh rushing and 381 yards passing uh jake's doing it right now yeah all right well i'm looking at tweets I see one formula that's like 15 things. Yeah, it's the dumbest.
It's over, PFT. You had a chance to root for it, and it's dead.
It's higher than 0.0%. What do you think I've been getting so nervous about and saying gateway game and talking about how big this game was? It was because of Week 18.
It was because you had playoff implications. It was because if they ran the table and the Packers ran the table, Week 18 would have been for everything.
I guess I'm just looking at the NFC South. I'm looking at the playoff records of the Vikings at 7-7, a couple other teams that are at or beneath 500 that are technically still in it that could lose some more games.
Max is doing it on the playoff calculator right now. Yeah, I'd love the playoff machine.
The playoff machine on ESPN is my very favorite thing in the entire world to use. PFT, do a couple ads and Max will work on it.
Okay. He's got it.
Okay, we'll get it after the ads. That's a hell of a tease.
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All right, Max.

Read it to us or Jake.

It's going to feel like Francesca reading just numbers and names. It also, you guys, this also does the opposite of what we're talking about.
That's why the Packers and the Bears need to win today because I'm reading this right now. It has like Panthers over Packers.
It's basically getting the Packers eliminated before. No, I plugged it in the ESPN playoff and then week week 18 I had the Packers beating the Bears and the Bears beating the Packers, and they flip-flopped the seventh seed.
Okay, so then tell us. All right.
Eagles over Seahawks. Dude, you've got to listen.
Yeah, I'm listening. You wanted this.
I'm reading it right now, too. Eagles over Seahawks tonight.
Week 16, Saints over Rams, Falcons over Colts, Titans over Seahawks, Lions over Vikings, Panthers over Packers, Jags over Bucs, Bears over Cardinals, Eagles over Giants. Okay, there's a couple red flags to that one.
Yeah. Week 17, Bears over Falcons, Giants over Rams, Bucs over Saints, Packers over Vikings.
Week 18, Lions over Vikings, and then Bears-Packers becomes win and it is. There's like four games on there that I'm circling like that will never happen.
Yeah. Eagles over Giants.
Or no. I guess that could happen.
Yeah, I guess so. Eagles over.
Do you think? I don't know. Do you think Max is going to be rooting for that game? Tommy DeVito or the Eagles? He was pretty upset.
Saints were desecrating our boy. Titans, Seahawks.
Titans over Seahawks. Maybe if Drew Locke's playing, I could talk myself into that.
Yeah, there's a couple iffy ones here. Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen.
I would say Giants over Rams is going to be tough too. Yeah, Panthers over Packers.
Pretty tough. Yeah.
Bears over Packers. Probably pretty tough.
Either way. Maybe it's for the best.
Yeah, I told you. The gateway's closed.
It might be for the best, though. I feel like I had all these hopes and dreams, and it came smashing down upon me, and then you showed up two minutes after, and you're like, hey, what if this happened? It could.
And I was like, no, dude. That was what we were just hoping and dreaming about.
It could. Now, what would actually be the worst thing? This is why I'm saying maybe for the best that it's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen. It's over.
It's for the best. It's over.
I'm not going to do a memes thing. I could see a world where going into that potential Week 18 matchup where the Bears win, they lose that draft pick, the high draft pick, and then whoever picks in that position takes an all-pro Hall of Fame player.
And you're like, oh, yeah, looking back on that meaningless game against the Packers that I wanted so desperately. No, but it would have gone to go to the playoffs.
You never say going to the playoffs is meaningless. Yeah.
That's a fact. Going to the playoffs is never meaningless.
Maybe if you're a Saints fan, it might be. I don't know.
Yeah, maybe. If you go to the playoffs, you're four wins away from winning the Super Bowl.
That's true. And I feel like the Saints have reason to believe now.
They've got reason to think, maybe we can win a playoff game. This was a big shot in the arm for that.
I guess if the Steelers went to the playoffs, that would be meaningless. Yeah.
There's a lot of teams that would be meaningless. But if the Bears had run the table, it would not be meaningless.
Yeah, for a Bears program who never goes to the playoffs. A program, I like that.
Especially with the number one pick. It would be good for recruiting in the NIL.
Yeah. Yeah.
If the Bears could go to the playoffs, they're portal. Oh, you know that Harbaugh would take them and be like, we got a strong program here.
Yeah. All right.
Next game. Not a strong program.
Chiefs 27, Patriots 17. Hank, sit on up.
Billy Zappi actually didn't look that bad for a little bit. Yeah, they were throwing it all over the field in the first half.
Yeah. He hops.
He does. He dances back.
He likes to hop up. The offensive line was bad.
They were giving him no time, but he was getting out of a lot of situations. There was that one sack where the entire Chiefs team was on him.
I think it might have actually ended up in an interception on him instantly. He had no time.
The interception in their own territory was bad. How do you feel about the defense? Are you still high on the defense? Yeah, I mean, the defense is one of the best defenses in the league since Week 10.
And the report was kind of walked back a little bit. The Belichick report I'm talking about where they said they've already made the decision to move on from him.
They walked that back a little bit, and they're like, no decision's been made. Right, just a report.
Did you see the new hotness? What's that? The new report. By who? I should tell you, PFT, first.
Yeah, I mean, like I told you last week on Thursday, that was a fake news report this is very funny hank because um a lot of times like the world's out to get us is bullshit this one made me chuckle because they spent all week saying belichick was going to get fired and then the report i saw today was that jared mayo is rubbing people the wrong way because he's supposed to be the successor. So they just basically were like, oh, that Belichick report was fake.
This guy's actually the problem. I like that.
What do we think? I like that. We got two camps going at it.
Yeah. I feel like that might have been Belichick getting his word out there.
Like, if you're going to replace me, you better have a guy lined up. I don't think that this is the right guy.
Yeah, that was like a make good by Curran. Like, my bad.
But the thing is, it probably will happen. Like, it probably will happen.
They're just mad that it is all happening publicly. Yeah, they thought that they would be able to handle it differently than every other team has ever done it because they're the Patriots and they do things the Patriot way there.
Report Patriots coach Jared Mayo has been rubbing people the wrong way this season via Greg Bedard. Multiple team sources indicated Mayo has rubbed at least some people the wrong way.
Hopefully not Kraft. Is that a shot at Orchid's day spot? Yeah.
Multiple people the wrong way in the building since his extension. And when he perhaps received a strong indication he'd be the successor.
And the picture that was used was Mayo and Steve Belichick. Oh.
So, yeah. Yeah.
He's probably treating Steve like he hasn't earned anything. Interesting.
Interesting. Couldn't be farther from the truth.
What are you thinking, Max? This is beside the point, but we just saw the injury video. Oh, I saw it in real life.
It was crazy, dude. Keith Mitchell.
It was Willis McGahee. Okay, I'm going to look it up.
I sent it to the group. I'm going to watch it live.
I did not see it when it happened. Graphic knee isn't supposed to bend this way.
No, it's Willis McGahee. Let's see.
He's stepping he's stepping oh what the fuck it's an obtuse angle oh uh no i think it's an acute angle no acute is less than 90 degrees question jake yeah yeah exactly so it becomes it bends so the the joint is like that it's smaller smaller. No.
His knee was like this. Right.
That's above, that's more than none. I guess it depends on which side of the knee we're referring to when we're judging the angle.
If we're talking about the front or the back side. Either way, it's an angle that's not.
The front is acute. The back is obtuse.
Okay, so. I am personally being obtuse right now.
Wow. Get well soon.
Yeah, it's bad. Yeah.
Running backs. I also just enjoy, I hope they keep Kadarius Tony around for the playoff run, because watching him blow a playoff game would be just.
It's at this point, it is 100%. Like, if they keep him around, they have no one to blame but themselves.
He is actually like I'm getting to the point where I think that someone's trying to take Mahomes down, and they're like, we'll use Kadarius Toney to do it. Either that or Mahomes got so bored dominating the NFL that he's playing on expert mode with Kadarius Toney, who will probably cost you at least seven points trying to catch a football.
That was the funniest interception ever. He was playing like keep it up.
Yeah. Like let me make sure.
He basically couldn't catch the ball and was like, wait, hold on. Let me make sure I pop it up one last time so someone can catch the ball.
It also doesn't help matters that he just looks insane. Yeah.
Whenever they show him, he's just like got this big smile on his eyes are crazy. He is the one.
He's a rare example, but I feel like in three or four games this year, if you put an average person on the field in Kadarius Toney's position, it might actually be better off for the Chiefs because you would never get the ball thrown to you because you'd never be able to get open. But at least you wouldn't actively cost your team points.
hand the ball for the other team points yeah i mahomes like he actually showed a lot of frustration for the first time which he should have since the end of the game last last week well that was the rest i'm saying for the first time in its own teammates but yeah if canary is tony ends up playing on a playoff roster he's going to fuck it up up, and then they're going to be like, we don't know what happened. We know what happened, dude.
How could we see this? How could we see it coming? He's shown it a million times, but I think Kelsey dropped one today too. He did, yeah.
What a boy ass play. Yeah, tired fingers.
They showed Taylor Swift up in the box, and she used the F word. Yep.
Loudly. Yep.
And you have to wonder, like, is that the kind of girl that we want as the face of the NFL? Nope. I don't think so.
I saw a good caption online. It said Taylor Swift when she found out the lighthouse wasn't real.
That's good. It's funny.
That is good. You hate that lighthouse, eh? You have no respect for the lighthouse.
I love the lighthouse. No, we built it because we had an old lighthouse, and then we had a scoreboard and had to build a bigger scoreboardboard and then you had to build a bigger lighthouse to look over the new bigger scoreboard and it's one of the biggest lighthouses in the country it's not that good son person uh yeah as a father of a swifty i don't i think i'm gonna have to ban it now i mean it's disgusting my son did actually say fuckhead the other day and i i had to i had him tell me it again because i, and then I was like, don't ever fucking say that.
And then he got very confused. Yeah, no, I slipped up.
I was like, don't fucking say that. And then he's like, wait, what? It was a whole thing.
I'm not great at that stuff. Fudge.
Yeah. Frick.
But a four and a half year old saying fuckhead, that's funny. Yeah.
It's hard not to laugh. I laugh at the worst moments is dead the worst uh clad edwards jalaire remember him he exists that was a great catch that he had today and the chiefs were back on their fuck shit that they do inside the red zone they they're doing the thing trying to keep loose let's put in some weird plays that you've never seen before something that andy reed he likes to tinker with during the week yeah he did some tinkering this time we had mah Mahomes lined up as a running back, right? Is that how it was set up? He had like a two running back back.
Mahomes was offset to the side, and then they ran it inside. It was an awesome play.
It's like, okay, the Chiefs are having fun. I think they had such an emotionally – they were a little bit extra with their loss last week.
Yeah, it was a get right. And then Andy Reid's like, okay, we're going to do some fun stuff in the red zone, like the ring around the rosy bullshit that we do sometimes.
Keep the boys loose out there. He's like Gordon Bombay.
Yeah. Throwing the beach ball out on the ice, being like, remember to have fun, guys.
Let's have fun. We're playing a kid's game.
And, you know, as a fan of the Patriots and the historical franchise that they are, it's sad to see that we've fallen so hard that now we're the team that other teams practice their most fucked up complicated plays against you're the get right we're the get right team but that's you know such is life that's that's how it goes you gotta take the downs with the ups i completely forgot about this but it just reminded me um remember when jake said clyde edwards hell air yeah that was i was gonna say something know. Yeah.
Yeah. No, we all know.
We've never mispronounced it. We've never thought it was a Hilaire.
That was one of my first ever mistakes on this show. And I think about it every day.
Damn. Do you keep a list of your mistakes? I have them in my head.
What's your biggest mistake on the show? My biggest mistake on this show? I had a Rushmore pick. I just had a Rushmore pick.
I just want credit. I had a joke that I did not say there.
Okay. Tell me.
What if you were going to say? I'll tell you off air. I'll tell you offline.
You could just text me. I'll read.
Okay. All right.
I'm trying to think of other ones as I sit by my body armor, sport water.

Yeah.

The other thing I had noted, Rasheed Rice is good.

Yes.

That's good for them.

What are you guys betting on back there?

That was a perfectly coordinated.

We're still sweating out this over.

It's not hitting.

There's still a shot?

No, there isn't. You guys are DeLulu.
Pete, you're as DeLulu as it gets. Jake, I don't think you've made any mistakes that have ever been actually of consequence minus the Hilaire thing.
That was so bad. That's fine.
Yeah, that was terrible. Yeah.
Trying to think what else. You made no others.
Look at the fucking Tweedledee and Tweedledum screaming at each other in the booth. You know what it is? Because Jake's mistakes are like, they pale in comparison.
Even his worst ones pale in comparison to our smallest mistakes. Yeah.
Well, yeah, I lose sleep over the small ones. Yeah.
And meanwhile, Max literally slept through his biggest one. Not pushing the button.
He had a fucking nice night of sleep. Oh, I thought you were going to say when he went out and blacked out.
Oh, that too, yeah. That was one of the more fun nights I've had on part of my take out that night with you guys.
Yeah, it was a great time. It was so much fun.
I was surprised that night before the Super Bowl because I thought that Jake might just leave the podcast after hanging out with Max. No.
And being like, well, he was making a fool of himself. Yeah.
Is this what you guys are normally like? This was almost a year ago. So? So we got to stop talking about it.
No. Vegas.
We should have a year. The encore.
Tell the story about it. What story? Oh, yeah.
For your stand-up. Full night of the whole story oh yeah actually tell the full story yeah do you i we might make an exception and you hank and pft and i could maybe act it out reenactment yeah um last thing hank they finally did the insult graphic to Bill Belichick on the broadcast.
Which one?

The wins one the wins one yeah with Brady without Brady I feel like they've been that's always been an online thing and then when they put it on the graphic it's like official that had to hurt right it doesn't because it was 20 years.

Of Brady.

Yeah, so big sample size.

It was Bill Belichick with Brady 266 and 75 without Brady 43 and 52.

But it's like one of those things where it's just

I view it as people that say that are just haters

because it's like, yeah,

this was the greatest run of all time in sports.

It was great.

And people are trying to knock him down

by saying you're not as good as that right now.

Right, right.

But I was just shocked to actually see it on

I'm going to go actually see it on. I feel like they've never done that on the graphic.
Yeah, me neither. Yeah.
On the actual broadcast. One thing that you should prepare yourself for, Hank, is if Belichick does decide to resume his career elsewhere, not in New England, right now he's at 301 career wins.
George Hallis, second place all time with 318. Don Shula, first place all time with 328 wins.
So he's 27 wins away from passing Don Shula to become the winningest head coach of all time. When that happens and he's not wearing a Patriots logo and he's not on the Patriots sideline, that's going to be a real mind fuck for you.
Yeah, that'll hurt, but he's a student of the game. He's a football legend.
He coached elsewhere before. If he coaches somewhere after, so be it.
Okay. Okay.
You can't, PFT, you know how it is. You're not going to get people to get us to hate on our heroes.
That's true. That's very true.
Very true. Okay, next up.
Dolphins 30, Jets 0. The New York Jets have been eliminated from the playoffs.
Memes? It's a sad, sad day. At what point...
Rodgers is back, though. Yes.
I was going to say, at what point this week is he going to be like, I would have been back. Would have ran the table.
But we're eliminated. I know I've been talking for the last two months about how I'm circling this this commander's game as the day that I come back from an unprecedented Achilles injury.
And now there's really nothing that he can do that would benefit the New York Jets by coming back and playing. Yeah, I thought that game was going to be at FedEx Field.
And that would have been an all-time script. Oh, was he re-injured? Oh, my God, yeah.
No, he would have died. That field would have killed him or fallen on him or something.
But during practice this week, Aaron Rodgers probably did the one thing that he can't do in terms of Zach Wilson's fragile little confidence. He played defensive back on the scout team, and he intercepted Zach Wilson.
Yeah, he made a one-handed interception? No. Was it off Zach Wilson or was it a different quarterback? I'm not sure.
I saw Rich and Meany's tweet. Yeah, he was picking off their quarterbacks as a defensive player during the week.
You can't do that, Aaron. You got to drop those.
Damn. Yeah, very tough times for Jets fans.
Yeah. This was an ass kicking.

Zach Wilson left the game twice.

Yes.

The first time he left the game, there was some speculation about whether or not he had a concussion.

He left the game and they told Jeff Darlington that it was because of a head issue that he's working with and not a concussion.

Turns out he was just dehydrated.

Yep. Which I guess your mouth, that's where you drink from.
Yep. I guess that could be classified as a head injury.
And then he did, I think, go into the concussion protocol later on in the game after a different hit. But I felt kind of bad for Zach Wilson during this game because they were just not blocking anybody.
And it seemed like their script, like the design of the plays, was for him to just get the snap and then run diagonally backwards and throw the ball either at his closest receiver's feet or throw it out of bounds. That seemed to be what they're trying to accomplish on offense.
It was tough to watch. Yeah, it was very tough to watch.
The Dolphins, that was a good bounce back for them. They needed to kick the shit out of someone, right? Yep.
And now they have Jake. It's the fraud bowl.
The Dolphins and the Cowboys is the fraud bowl. The loser of this game, no one will take serious.
Yeah, but it's so NFL for the Dolphins to lose this game. People will count them out and they'll beat the Ravens on the road.
Everyone will be back on them. I know.
I won't be back on them. I truly think that whoever loses Cowboys, Dolphins, I'm out on.
Officially. They showed another tough stat on the screen that said Raheem Mostert's touchdowns this year.
He has seven more touchdowns this season than the entire New York Jets offense. He's leading the league in touchdowns, which is crazy because if you asked anyone that question, they would have been like Christian McCaffrey.
Yeah. He's got 17 rushing touchdowns.
It's crazy. It's nuts.
And they did this without Tyreek, too. Yeah.
And Tyreek, I think he was healthy going into the game. He was, like, running routes on the field, looking good, explosive.
And they're like, you know what? We don't really need the best receiver in the NFL to win this game 30 to nothing. Yes.
Yes. What were you going to say, Jake? Revenge of the Two of Fingers Part 2.
Oh, yeah. Destroyed.
Two of Fingers is funny. I'll stand by that forever.
All right. I'm sure we'll hear about it next year.
What? The Two of Fingers. Yeah.
He's never letting that go. Never.
Yeah. Dolphins haven't lost to them.
I still think that's very funny fan behavior. I know it's a sensitive subject, but just the idea of someone doing that to you in like the 300 level of Met

life will always crack me up.

Skylar Thompson.

Yeah.

It's like the idea of somebody thinking that that was like a good thing to

do.

Yeah.

It's just,

it's so NFL.

Right.

And also the fact that they found the one guy they could do it to that was

like legitimately offended.

Yeah.

He's taken aback.

Jake was legitimately offended by it.

Jake took serious umbrage to keep in mind at the time it was a at the time, it was a week after it happened, and we didn't know if Tua would ever play football again. People said, like, if he had one more hit, his career could be in trouble.
Yeah, but remember he said that MacGruber was funny, so he was fine. He laughed the entire movie.
Yeah, he laughed the entire movie. Tua is the man.
This is a big game for the Tua is nothing without Tyreek. Tyreek Merchant, yeah.
He had a good game. I've been watching the hard knocks about the Dolphins, the in-season hard knocks.
Yeah. It's pretty good.
You can't dislike Mike McDaniel. He's a fun guy, and you want to root for him.
They also did a big profile on Alec Ingold, which was awesome. That is.
But it's just more football. You get bonus football during the week.
Yeah. I stand by the fact that Stephen Ross doing the waddle has ruined the waddle for me.

Yeah.

They're now showing him every time.

But yeah, the Dolphins needed kind of like the Chiefs, where it's like, just get right,

just kick the shit out of a team that has no business being on the field with you.

Now you feel good.

Now let's go play the home stretch.

I do think that an owner doing the waddle, it's better than the owner trying to rip off

a gritty.

True.

Or a dab.

True.

We need to go. now you feel good now let's go play the home stretch i do think that an owner doing the waddle it's it's better than the owner like trying to rip off a gritty true or a dad true the owners would dab that was always a tough look true at least with steven ross when he does the waddle you're like is he is that just how he walks right he's old and frail right and you have that moment where like oh no he's he's doing a dance yeah when he when steven ross does the waddle you don't know if he's doing the waddle or if someone had knocked into him two hours ago.
Yeah. He still is just going back and forth.
He's got a hip injury that he's dealing with. Yeah, he just keeps going back and forth.
By the way, the Ravens are going to win. Lamar, that was an awesome run.
He's fun. Yeah.
Anything else on the... Oh, I wanted to say, Dolphins.
I know the Jets offense sucks, but the whole reason that I have believed in the Dolphins in the last couple weeks is because of Vic Fangio today their defense was awesome shut out hard to shut out a team in the NFL it is so you get credit for it for me no matter what so yeah that's why I believe in the Dolphins is Vic Fangio. That's the name.
That's the guy who I believe in. Okay, Texans-Titans.
Congratulations to the Houston Texans for winning the uniforms back in our own eyes. Texas 19, Titans 16.
Yeah, this game sucked. But, yeah, congrats.
The Texans stay alive in the playoffs. This is actually a huge win for the Texans because without C.J.
Stroud, without Nico Collins, obviously Tank Dell, we put him out for the year a couple weeks ago. And Case Keenum had one of those pick sixes.
It was like, fuck, that's why he's Case Keenum. But, yeah, this was a huge win for the Texans to stay alive, knowing that they could get healthy.
And their defense was awesome. They completely – I think – how many yards does Derrick Henry have? Derrick Henry, I actually have that stat because he set a record today.
Okay, because I was going to say, anecdotally, I didn't write it down. I felt like every time I looked at that game, Derrick Henry was getting zero yards.
So Derrick Henry had 16 carries for nine yards. Okay, so I was right.
Which is his worst game that he's ever played in the NFL. He also became the first player in league history to get 20 or more touches and register less than 15 yards from scrimmage.
So this was... 0.6 yards per carry.
And they got eliminated from the playoffs today. Yep.
And Will Levis got hurt. And Will Levis got hurt.
And Derrick Henry spoke to the media after the game and was like, this sucks because I might not ever put on this uniform after this season because he's going to be a free agent at the end of the year. Oh, I think because the Texans won it in this game.
Because the Texans won it, yeah. So he'll never wear the Houston Oilers jersey again.
But, yeah, he was, like, upset after this game. Something that you don't really see that much from Derrick Henry, him being like, yeah, you know, I might not.
Realistically, I'm probably not going to be here next year. We talked about the cliff.
And what was it? Was it 10,000 carries or something? Something like that. Yeah.
Shout out to Case Keenum, though. Case Keenum has never lost a game as a Houston Texans starter.
Whoa. He's 3-0 all time.
That's huge. It's huge.
I would have thought he'd started way more games. Mr.
Perfect. he feels it's because he feels like the platonic ideal of a houston texans backup quarterback yeah when they went through that like the tj yates era uh matt shaw brian fitzpatrick you name it they all played there were just like nine different iterations of case keenum yeah if you put them all together yeah he had just started two games for him until today yeah and the like Like like Devin Singletary, he was cast off by the Bills, and he basically like saved – the Texans' season was saved today.
Yeah. It was because I know that they still might not make the playoffs, so we don't know when C.J.
Stroud's coming back, hopefully next week. But they actually have a chance now to play out the string and still get in the playoffs, which no one thought was going to happen, especially with Case Keenum playing.
They could do it. So they have the Browns next week, and then they've got the Titans again the week after.
I really wanted this game to be a tie. And then at the Colts.
It was so close to being a tie. Yeah, we've been teased.
It was like, what, 40 seconds? We've been teased, tie teased so much this year, and we need to get get one i just need that one dash one in the record column to just like combo break it yeah make it look interesting on the stat sheet oh it was uh i mean the field goal happened with with like no time time left but it was the uh the run the touchdown run with 50 seconds left when they called that back yeah i was like we got it we got it. We got the tie.
We got our tie. Yeah.
I think the Bengals are going to get us tied. They've come so close so many times.
Do we think the Texans are going to get in the playoffs? I think they might because, again, they get to play against the Titans again. Browns, Titans, Colts.
There doesn't seem to be enough spots in the AFC playoffs for all the teams I want to see in the playoffs. I agree.
This is going to be a problem. This is why we need bowl games in the NFL.
At the end of the season, teams that don't get into the playoffs should be matched up in the most entertaining matchup possible and they should play one more game. Maybe the winner of that game is the one that gets the better draft pick.
Yeah. Out of whichever two teams those are playing against each other.
That's the tiebreaker. Wait, do you have the thing up, Max, right now? What's the Texans' chance for the playoffs right now? This is like a calculator to see how you get into the playoffs.
Oh, damn. There's a mathematician over there.
Yeah, I mean, Memes has become an expert on this. All for naught, yeah.
Figuring out a way. Texans are at 55%.
Yeah, so the 55% to get to playoffs? Yeah, because, I mean, the Jaguars losing today. What are the Jaguars at now? Probably isn't going to update.
What about the Bills? What are the Bills? Fuck. God damn it, Max.
This is hard. Bills are 69.
Nice. Nice.
Nice nice nice nice i think they're 30 percent that nerd kornacki told me they were 30 percent to win the division i think they're much higher than 30 i agree i think it says 40 right here according to new york times we don't trust them yeah uh we should put out a statement about the jerseys because it really pisses people off. Yeah.
It's crazy how mad people get. The jerseys belong to you.
Also, it wasn't just the jerseys. Vrabel wore the bum Phillips hat.
Yeah, he did. Which was stolen valor.
Yeah. I would never say that to his face because he kicked the shit out of me.
It's very funny because we don't think they're ever going to give up the jerseys because why would you give up a jersey that sweet? But man titans fans get upset about it they do listen you did take their team you took their team and and you lost the jersey game i gotta go back and find it when i when we had this first argument in like september and one guy replied to me and was like you don't know any of the history they wanted to keep the team in houston but they wouldn't uh give them enough money to build a stadium it's like so literally how every team gets moved every team yeah it's like can you imagine if if the whatever las vegas baseball team they're gonna have yeah the oakland a's uniforms yeah i don't like it yeah i don't like it at all they're like oh no oakland never supported the a's it was you know the city's fault yeah this is how it always goes. Yeah.
The owner wanted more money and the city said, no, we're not going to spend tax money on you guys. We need food for kids in school.
Yeah. Owner finds other city that will take team, uses other city as leverage against the current city.
Yeah. Current city says, fuck off because you have billions of dollars to pay for your own goddamn stadium owner says all i need to do is get my other rich owner friends to buy in on this and i can go get a new stadium new stadium more revenue for everyone yeah and then when fans fans get fucked and then once we move the team then all my other rich owner friends their franchise has become worth more money correct and then since their franchise is worth so much money, then they can go to their local cities and say, hey, we need more money to stick around for a new stadium.
I need more suites. And then the city or town that they're in says no.
And then the owner says, okay, fuck you. I'm going to make myself and my owner friends money again.
It's a big cycle. Yeah.
Sucks. So, yeah, we should put out a statement saying the jerseys go back.
I will not acknowledge any further Titans games where they play wearing the Oilers uniform. Ooh, I like that.
Not going to count their wins. Same.
Same. But if they lose.
But count their losses twice. Yes.
So the Titans are eliminated. They're actually 5-10.
Yep. Yeah.
They lost with those on. Okay.
Saints-Giants. Saints.
We're wrapping up the early game. Saints-24, Giants-6.
What they did to our boy, Tommy DeVito. It was an anti-Italian discrimination.
It really was. It was.
They did the finger celebration. They did the finger celebration.
They basically knocked him out multiple times. It's sad, PFT.
That's not your gesture. If you're not italian you can't use that gesture to an italian person as a way of demeaning them it's bullshit it's bullshit it's a hate crime even it's also like tommy devito's like he's not i understand if it was like my home's doing something then you do it back to him because you beat the biggest baddest dude on the block like can't tommy devito just do his thing well this is this is another case of how anytime you have a celebration that you know you have to be ready for somebody to do it back to you I understand how it works and it wasn't surprising to me whatsoever but it's like deep down I was like come on Tommy DeVito like he's undrafted what are we doing yeah why are you guys taking personal offense to Tommy DeVito I did love his agent in in the stands, Sean Stellato, wearing the Italian-American Sports Hall of Fame jacket.
You get a green jacket when you get inducted into it. He also had the pants to match.
Yeah, the pants were great. He might have just gotten the whole suit.
We're also now getting Tommy DeVito insult stories coming out. Be aware.
It's bullshit. Ravel said, Coniglio's Pizzeria and Bak in mortistown new jersey says we'll no longer have tommy devito this at the restaurant this tuesday they said they were told his fee increased from 10 000 to 20 000 after the packers win and the family biz said they couldn't afford it i like that i like that they called him back up it was like yeah we told you it was gonna be 10.
Price goes up. Sean Salado refuted this, said there was never a price.

Never a price.

There was never a price.

Never an agreement in place.

I just feel it.

I know people are going to come after our boy Tommy.

We can't let it happen.

We got to fight for him.

He got jacked up a couple times. He got killed.

And they put him in the concussion protocol, which I guess he passed.

I would love to see what Tommy DeVito's baseline concussion test is.

Yeah.

Like the questions they ask him. How many fishes are there? Yeah.
Seven. Yeah.
Okay. He's good.
Kid's good. Yeah.
Who was, yeah. Was, what was his name? Vito? Vito? Yeah.
Was Vito gay? Yeah. Yeah, he was.
Yeah. He was.
Well, he wasn't gay. He was just sucking off a guy in the parking lot.
What was Vito's lover's name? Yeah. Johnny Cakes.
Johnny Cakes. Jameis Winston had an all-time great moment today.
Yes. Before the game.
They usually have players doing the tunnel walk, where they see what type of fashion they're wearing, what clothes they're wearing. With Jameis, he was just like walking on the field.
That's how he goes to work. He walks across the football field.
And he was carrying this giant briefcase. I have no idea it was inside that suitcase i want desperately to find out what was in the suitcase it was definitely some sort of motivational prop that he wait you don't know it was nothing no that's that's oh that was a fake story yeah i i tweeted out the video and i was like i want to know what's inside this briefcase oh people just i think i think it's probably like he's got fireworks in there he's got a.
Maybe even the suitcase itself is a Bluetooth speaker. And he's probably got a sandwich in there.
I was just trying to think, like, what would Jameis Winston be carrying in the suitcase? And then from the New York Daily News, Leonard from the New York Daily News, he said he opened the case and there was nothing. That's what's between us and greatness.
Nothing. And then he said that as a joke to me.
then the aggregators saw that saw it and they're like oh this guy said that james is carrying nothing in his briefcase to show that's what's now that very well could be actually what happened i would not put that past james got it but i want to know what james was carrying in that suitcase yeah i do too maybe just like a giant maybe it was a cake shaped as a w could have just been toilet paper yeah he just brings his own toilet paper shit so bad yeah he looks So good. Maybe it was a cake shaped as a W.
Could have just been toilet paper. Yeah.

He just brings his own toilet paper.

Shit's so bad.

Yeah, he looks so good.

Maybe it was like a giant, very intricate remote control car

that he just brought into the locker room,

take it for a spin with a boy.

A drone.

Yeah, drone.

Yeah, he's just droning around in the dome.

I could see him doing that.

Yeah.

It could just be like a Game Boy.

Yeah.

He's definitely the type of backup quarterback that would still get his offensive lineman presence like he's the starter yeah and his oh my god it could be watches yeah could you imagine how much better jamis winston's gift to the offensive line would be than derrick carr's oh jamis winston would buy you a fucking present derrick carr would get you like a a bible yeah sign it himself yeah and be like here this means more this means more than any. I know you were really hoping you were going to get a souped up golf cart, but this will give you years of pleasure.
Eternal life, really. Yeah.
I've given you, yeah, don't let the Yeti cooler fool you. Your real present is the kingdom of heaven.
Yeah. Yeah, no.
Derek Carr. No one wants that from Derek Carr.
Saints actually looked pretty decent. They were fun today.
Yeah. Saints look good.
Yeah. And they didn't even have Chris Alavi out there.
Yeah. So you got to be way happier this week than you were last week if you're a Saints fan.
Yeah. Now you could be like, we might if everything clicks correctly, we're a good team.
And you know what? In a weird way, if you're a Saints fan, I know a home playoff game is fun and all that. Getting in it as a wild card, it feels like you earned it a little more.
Yeah. Whereas winning the NFC South, everyone knows it's the worst division.
It's like, oh, well, they had to give it to someone. If the Saints just earned it the old-fashioned way and beat the Rams this weekend on Thursday night.
Wait, is it Rams-Saints?

Yeah, Rams-Saints Thursday night football.

If they beat them on Thursday night football, it's like, oh, hey, look, they went in the hard way.

They didn't just.

They earned it.

Even though the Bucs would technically be above the Saints.

Yeah.

Something about it, I'd be like, yeah, the Saints deserve this.

They earned it because if you're a wild card team and you get in somehow, then it's like nobody believes in you. You beat out everyone else.
Yeah. You didn't just have to beat out your own division.
Your own crappy division. Yeah.
You beat the entire league. Again, the Bucs would have beaten out the Saints, but that's neither here nor there.
It doesn't make a difference. Yeah.
So it's going to be in L.A. That's a huge game.
Huge game. But yeah, if you're the Saints, you can make the case like, we've had our ups and downs.
We've had to battle through more adversity than the Bucs did getting this division. We've had to battle Derek Carr being out for the year over 17 different times.
Yeah. And having him just show up multiple.
The Saints players, that might be why they hate Derek Carr. They're like, they're on the precipice of getting the substitute teacher walking in the door.
Yeah. And then their teacher hobbles in.
He's like, actually, I'm here. Take out your workbooks.
Like, Jameis being the starter would be so much fun. Yeah.
I think that with Derek Carr, it's like if he doesn't practice during the weekend, he's hurt, and then he just shows up on game day. He hasn't been there for long enough to be able to do that and have people rally around how tough he's being.
Right he's probably being pretty tough he's got like nine broken ribs his shoulders fucked up his neck's hurt whatever uh if you've been there for a while and the guys already like you and trust you and know that you're tough then you can do that sort of thing if you're new in town and you're just like no i'm just going to show up and play on game day probably some of the guys are like what the fuck's going on right right exactly getting right, exactly. Getting all the good drugs from the team doctor probably.
Yes, yes. I did sense Max kind of rooting for Tommy DeVito.
He had some like whimpers when he got knocked out. Max? No, I'm not rooting for him, but I don't like to see people get hurt.
Especially Italians. That's not really true though.
Yes, it is. You do like to see some people get hurt.
I mean, yeah. I also didn't like the disrespect.
I can root. I can.
Division rival. Uh-oh.
I just don't like to see the disrespect towards Italian Americans. That's all.
What were you going to say? It's more so that I wasn't rooting for him, but I didn't like to see that against him. But you're going to be rooting against him as an Italian-American.
Oh, yeah. I saw one.
Someone tweeted it. It was a picture of Sean Salado, who will be on the show on Wednesday in his green outfit and everything.
And the quote tweet was just like, I can't believe Italian-Americans are even a thing. It was like, yeah, that actually is kind of funny.
Like, yeah, they are crazy.'re fun yeah they're just they just got they got character at all times if you went back and you you had to put like rocky in the concussion protocol every time he got his bell wrong yeah would never have lasted past the first round yeah tommy italians shouldn't have to enter concussion protocol it's against their culture are you waiting for me to comment? Yeah. Sure.

Okay. So we can knock him out

and he can't say anything about it?

What would Rocky do next?

If Max ever complains about the concussions that we're going to

give him, we're going to be like, you're not a real

Italian guy. I've thought about if I lose

the thing

for the opening, I would just do 15 minutes of

Rocky monologues.

Wait. Like you would just memorize Rocky? Some of it.
That would be awesome. It would be pretty good.
You might need that. But you'd have to be shirtless wearing like the Rocky.
No, he wears the. The boxing outfit.
No, he does the beater. You'd be like that little annoying kid.
Yeah, no. I hate that kid.
That movie sucks, but it's the most iconic. It's crazy.

What are you talking about?

You're talking about Rocky Balboa.

I'm talking about the fucking kid that shows

up and does it to real

sides ago.

He's done it to Hulk Hogan too. I fucking

hate that kid. That was awesome.

That was cool. No, but Jake, you don't know

about this kid. It was so annoying.
He's like baby Gronk. Yeah, he does that everywhere.
Oh. That's his thing.
I thought it was just like a cool moment. No.
And you know what? He's going to keep doing that. He plans it out.
I thought he was a diehard Rocky fan. He's going to do that once he's like a preteen into his teenage years.
Yeah. He's probably going to be 30 years old going up to Sylvester Stallone and like the retirement facility.
Yeah. He's done that multiple times.
Remember me? I'm cute. I'm little.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay. Me a little small.
Also, it's less about the kid. I don't hate the kid.
It's like somewhere there's a parent who's... Yeah.
That's all they're doing is like, you got to fucking remember this so I can take a video and go viral. Yeah, they had the meet and greet with Sly.
Yeah. It circled on the calendar like a month ago.
Okay, we got to prep. We got to study for the time where you're going to say all the lines back to Rocky.

Yeah, like, Mom and Dad, I just want to go play with my friends.

Like, no, you're going to fucking learn this because I need to get my numbers on Instagram.

It's really a stage mom.

No different from Honey Boo Boo.

Yes.

Or JonBenet Ramsey.

Yes.

Yes.

Panthers, we date ourselves when we say that. Which one? Honey Boo Boo? bernet ramsey oh yeah captivated a nation yeah you guys don't even have any idea all we could talk about what ended up who ended up was the killer they don't know seriously they don't they don't know the dad is suspected by many they never found out who never found out.
Jesus fucking Christ.

I lost interest.

I didn't think the cops lost interest.

I think the cops were just like, we're on to the next thing.

Damn.

That's one thing that you hope the police don't lose interest in. Yeah, I think they could just never prove it.

Damn.

Yeah, Jean Benet.

I think it was also the name.

Jean Benet.

Child beauty pageants are the most fucked up thing ever. They're so crazy.
All right. Last game of the earlies.
Panthers-Falcons. Panthers 9, Falcons 7.
Fuck the Atlanta Falcons. Pieces of shit.
Desmond Ritter, you're a piece of shit. I never want to watch you play football again.
That was just a painful game. It was soaking wet.
There was nobody in the crowd at all.

If you saw it when they came back from halftime,

I'm going to guess that there were like 200 people in the stands.

Yeah, shout out Pantos.

He was there.

Yeah.

Pantos, what is his full Twitter handle?

He had a picture at halftime.

He's like, you got to take the bad times with the good.

It's like, no, dude, you don't actually have to go to this game.

Pantos 704, which is probably his number.

that's a's the uh charlotte area code okay yeah pantos yeah he's a diehard panthers fan i my theory is that tepper bought up all the seats all the ones that were like 45 cents a piece he bought them all up so that it wouldn't be like 45 cents listed as the get-in price right and then just didn't sell any of them right it's it i'm willing to spend a million dollars just not getting completely embarrassed with the prices not thinking through to the fact that there's still going to be pictures yeah of people in the same it's empty and the panthers uniforms look cool they looked awesome helmets look cool bryce young game-winning drive shout out the pan I know Panthers fans have been – I feel like you probably see it too, PFT. Maybe three times a week I'll have a Panthers fan hit me up being like, please, we don't have anything.
Just take it easy. So here's your moment.
You won a game. Bryce Young, game-winning drive.
Helmets look cool. Desmond Ritter sucks.
Good job. You beat a divisional opponent at home.
That's cool. That's always fun.
You protected your home turf. It was on three field goals, but don't let that.
Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.
He had a game winning drive. Seven to nine.
Announced attendance, 70,301. Shut up.
What? Yep. 70,000 people were there? Hey, can you pass me another water? 7-0-3-0-1.
You can just say anything. Owners can just be like, yeah.
Yeah, there's no way to prove it. There's no way to prove it.
How could they do that? They can't get away with that. There's probably a lot of people who had paid tickets and they just didn't go.
That's not attendance. Well, paid attendance is what it always is.
It's not people who go through the turnstiles. I like that they didn't go.
If this game was played in North Korea, they would have said 100% attendance. They did something that was kind of like it's not believable, but at least they said 95% attendance.
Yeah. Remember when the Falcons wanted to get Deshaun Watson but not Lamar Jackson? Yep.
That was crazy. It was nuts.
And then they're like, hey, all this talent we have, let's just have Desmond Ritter be our quarterback again. Yeah, Ritter stinks.
That interception he threw was so bad. Yeah.
Bijon might be back in the doghouse again. He had a doghouse share of carries today.
He got seven carries. Algier got 14.
Fuck, they brought out Corderell Patterson. He scored.
He scored a touchdown today. Yeah.
He had five carries for negative two yards today. But yeah, Bijon.
What is the purpose of the Atlanta Falcons having all these good players? I don't know. Just to, like, keep them away from other teams having them? And you know what? I'm actually, like, I know a couple weeks ago we were like, oh, the Falcons will be the fun team.
Desmond Ritter changes all of that. I don't want to see Desmond Ritter play any more football.
It's actually, like level. If the Falcons were just like a puppet franchise that were secretly run by a different team, get all the most talented offensive players, put them on this team, get Desmond Ritter as your quarterback so he'd never win anything, and then our opponents won't have those good players on them.
I know Falcons fans were thinking we're probably picking on them. No, they would say the same thing.
Yeah. They're more frustrated than we are.
Yeah. Here's another thing.
Just like I said, Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson. Arthur Blank said on Lamar Jackson in March this year, looking at it objectively, I'd say there's some concern over how long he can play, his style of game.
Hopefully a long time, but he's missed five, six games each of the last two years. Sean Watson doesn't want to play football.
They tried to get to Sean Watson. Instead of Lamar Jackson, who wanted to go play in Atlanta.
It's crazy. Lamar Jackson on this team would be so fun.
And the wild thing is that the Falcons aren't out of it. They are.
They should be out of it. There should be a disqualifying loss.
They should actually, to gain favor, they should just disqualify themselves tomorrow.

Do a press conference and be like, look, even if we win the next three games, we're not doing it.

It's like when a team gets bowl eligibility, like a good program, and they're like, we're not going to go to that bowl game.

Right.

It's not worth it.

Right.

If you have any pride in yourself, Falcons, you will say, we do not want this wild card yeah make yourself eligible unless taylor hannick is a quarterback then i'm in and i'm back then i'm 100 yeah uh okay let's do a couple more ads then we'll finish off with the last three games including hank's cowboys before we get back to games yeah who boy boy you know what h to need a couple of his ice-cold Coors Lights to wash the taste of that terrible, terrible Cowboys game out of his mouth. Coors Light is the best beer in the entire world.
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And guess what? That means Shake Shack. Yeah, we did it, boys.
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So PFT had the Raiders on Thursday night. I had the Lions on Saturday night.
Hank had the Rams on Sunday. Hank's was actually the only one that was actually a little bit in doubt.
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We have to. So Rams 28, Commanders 20, PFT, your thoughts? I've got one particular part of this game I would like to just draw everybody's attention to because it was shocking, even for Ron Rivera.
Yeah. It was one of the worst head coaching displays I've ever seen.
I'm glad that this wasn't on a nationally televised game, like a standalone game. Yep.
Because it would have been everyone in America freaking out about what the fuck is Ron Rivera doing in this situation. All right.
So we're down 28-14, right? There's five minutes left in the game. Fourth quarter.
Jacoby Brissett's in at quarterback. Sam Howell's still the guy but jacoby brissette stepped in at the end of the game wait what happened uh sam howell wasn't having his best day and we needed a spark okay so jacoby brissette was the spark today got it uh five minutes left in the game jacoby brissette hits terry mclaurin who almost scores for a touchdown it was like a 40 yard pass 50 yard pass great throw great catch uh terry mcclorn tackled at the one yard line so we're down by 14 four minutes 44 sevens left four minutes 44 seven seconds left on the clock in the fourth quarter we get the ball rams call timeout first and goal on the one yard line rodriguez up the middle one yard no gain how quickly do you think we ran the the next play after that one big cat well i know the answer so do you think we do you think we hustled to the line no again we're down by 14 points in the quarter no we take the clock down to one second left the clock down to one second left you were screaming at the tv during thisoby Brissett, quarterback sneak up the middle, no gain.
Do you think we hustled to the line after that play? No. No, we didn't.
Clock continues to tick down to three minutes, 18 seconds. Short pass across the middle to Logan Thomas.
One-yard touchdown nullified by penalty. Now it's third and goal on the 11.
Jacoby Brissett passed short and middle to Curtis Samuel for four yards. Do you think we hustled after that one, Big Ed? No.
Do you think we hustled? No, we didn't. The clock went down to two minutes, 31 seconds.
Fourth and goal. Pass to Terry McLaurin.
Penalty. Pass interference.
Then we get the ball again at the one-yard line. We go up the middle again for minus two yards 27 seconds left until the two-minute warning do you think we try to get another playoff before warning no no we don't we let the two-minute warning happen and then we run another play passing complete passing complete after that and then on fourth down we finally score a touchdown now there's

one minute 46 seconds left three minutes to get one yard in a game when we're down by uh two scores it was tough to watch 14 points i had stat hole look this up because i thought to myself this has got to be the most amount of clock that's been used to gain one yard in nfl. He looked it up.
His stats only go back to 1999. But since 1999, the previous record was your Chicago Bears in week 12, 2013, took two minutes, 46 seconds to score a touchdown from first and goal on the one yard line.
This is the worst case of clock management I've ever seen. It was bad.
And then, so Rivera's got three timeouts. He should have, if you're trying to win the game, oh, wait, let me jump back after we score the touchdown.
Down by 14. He should go for two there, right? Yeah.
He doesn't. And the field goal gets blocked.
He wanted us to get the fries. The extra point gets blocked.
Or the shake. Thank you, Ron, for letting us get the shake.
and then he kicks off he does an onside kick which is impossible to recover he still has three timeouts in his pocket and then um they just run the ball run the ball run the ball expire the clock if you're trying to win that football game you would probably kick it deep use your three timeouts try to get the ball back somewhere around midfield i don't know what ron rivera does if he's ever watched football before well i mean i don't think he's trying to do anything he doesn't he's fired but he already is fired yeah like i think they probably were like hey dude you're a nice guy we're not gonna fire you during the season that's what's happening he just doesn't give a fuck he wants to retire at the end of the season but i kind of don't blame him because like yeah right but and they probably told him like don't win any games dude if you're trying to win this game he's not he can't be trying to win this game no he can't there's it's impossible for somebody to mismanage the end of game unless they're doing it intentionally you were looking you were looking at the end of the game as through the eyes of a rational person who's watched football and knows how you should operate in a football game yeah Ron Rivera, I bet you he sat down when they were like, hey, we're firing Jack Del Rio. Do you want to go with him, or do you want to just stick around and run off the string? He's like, I'll fucking stick around.
Yeah. And they were probably just – Josh Harris was like, all right, just do me one favor.
Don't win any more games. He's like, no problem.
He did a hell of a job not winning this game. And also, long snapper cheeseman you can't you can't suck that bad and have your last name be cheeseman it's tough everyone knows uh he he had a quote after the game where they're like are you thinking that maybe your job's in jeopardy right now are you nervous about that and he's like yeah i've been nervous all year because i haven't been very good and i've kept i think to myself all the time like they're probably going to get somebody else here everyone that's watched the commanders game this year since week one has been like the long snapper is not good he almost got the punter killed yeah trust way so many bad snaps today um it was it was very frustrating to watch the end of this game a six an eight-year-old that's played two games of madden would be able to tell ron rivera what to do better than did it at the end of this game.
It was just bewildering. I have no idea what I watched.
I feel like, though, it made perfect sense because he's not trying. He's not doing anything.
He's not trying at all. And he's going to retire, and they're going to make it seem like it's a mutual parting of ways.
Right. And then Rivera's probably going to try to get a job with the Panthers as the consig consigliere or like maybe even like president of football operations.
No, they'll just get – David Tepper will get Ron Rivera to go find who the next coach should be. Yeah, interview him.
Shake his hand. Look him in the eye.
Yeah. Tell us that he's a football guy.
But yeah, Matt Stafford – I know I went on a little rant there about Rivera because it was shocking. But Matt Stafford still – he's still got it.
He it and he did the one throw that he does every game the red meat out there for Dan Orlovsky to talk about a little sidearm out to the sidelines I think it was to Higby the dude can still throw the fuck yeah I the Rams are definitely in the list of teams that like I want to see in the playoffs yeah because they would be fun to watch. Like Matt Stafford, we had this discussion last week.

He has the ability to beat anyone

because he is playing at that level.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's still very, very good.

And the Saints-Rams

is going to be a pseudo-elimination game.

And the Rams, they got weapons.

Kyron Williams is a great player.

Yeah.

Although they were fumbling.

He did fumble a little bit tonight,

but he's still good.

I just remember that

because that over should have hit.

And they just kept on fumbling.

It definitely should have hit, and in the standings,

Hank had a massive two-game swing today.

Yeah, how close is he now, Jake?

I went 0-2 for the first time, I think, all year.

It's over.

Hank went 2-0.

Both of you went 0-2.

Hank is now 3-1 behind PFT with six picks left.

It's over.

What if we did an extra holiday pick?

I'll see you next week. Hank went 2-0 Both of you went 0-2 Hank is now 3.5 behind PFT With 6 picks left It's over What if we did an extra holiday pick? We did a holiday pick for Thanksgiving No Max, stop that Max It is Christmas coming up Hank probably threatened you He was like you're fired if you don't play That kind of makes sense No it doesn't, it makes no sense We've never done this format We've never done that.
We've never done this format before this year. Yeah, and we did do one for Thanksgiving.
We always do one. Hank wants a charity case.
But this is different. It's the holidays.
Yeah, it's the holidays. The games were played on Sunday on Christmas.
And Monday. Yeah, and Saturday.
And Saturday. So next week we'll do Saturday holiday.
Three picks. Saturday and then you can do Sunday, Monday.
This is shenanigans. Stop the steal.
You're watching it happen right now. You don't believe in your picks? All you have to do is win two games PFT.
You gotta win two? This is fraud like we've never seen in this country before, Hank. How many am I ahead of PFT? I'm gonna get my stands to just fucking storm Barstool headquarters.
Big Cat, 19 and a half. PFT, 18.
Hank, 14 and a half. So Big Cat, right now you're up five with six to go.
Anyone that cares about democracy in this country should call Hank out on this bullshit. It's the holidays.
It is the holidays. You sound like the Grinch right now.
It is the holidays. No, by not doing an extra money.F.
Scrooge. No, no.
I want more money in our listeners' pockets. I don't want them to be tailing or fading our picks.
I want them to have money to spend on their family. Not gambling on another game.
Hank, hit him with the line. Family.
Go ahead. The Lighthouse is...
Oh, it's the holidays. Dude, what the fuck? It's easiest one ever.
Counterpoint. Counterpoint.
I don't know what else. Counterpoint.
It's the holidays. It is the holidays.
You just say that over and over. Wait, where are you going with the lighthouse? I don't know.
I was like... That was weird, dude.
I was like, what line? What lines do I have? The line you've just been using. It's the holidays.
It's the holidays. So it's sacrilegious.
If you were a big believer in the holidays, you don't want to encourage people to go out there and sin and gamble. We do Thanksgiving because it was the holidays.
Why would we not do...

It's not the holidays. No, it's not the holidays.

The holidays are like now.

Thanksgiving isn't the holidays.

Thanksgiving, not holidays. Oh, wow.

There's three Monday games

on Christmas. Maybe we just do the

Christmas special pick.

Four? Are you saying... No, no, no, no.

We should just make that worth three points.

Good idea. Or 25

Christmas. No.
There's two games

I'm sorry. Christmas special pick? Four? Are you saying for...
No, no, no, no. We should just make that worth three points.

Good idea.

Or 25, Christmas. No.

There's two games on Saturday.

It's proving the integrity of the picks.

Wait, go back.

You said Thanksgiving's not a holiday?

No, it's a holiday, but the holidays is like Hanukkah, Christmas, New Year's.

Those are the holidays.

Thanksgiving, Black Friday, Cyber Monday.

That is a holiday weekend, but the holidays are the December holidays. Boobie Christmas.
Those are the holidays. Boobie Christmas does rock.
Shout out Boobie Christmas. You just sound scared.
There's nothing to sit on. PFT's scared.
Scared little boy. I'm not scared.
Fuck you, little boy. This little boy put his foot up your ass.

Whoa.

Yeah, that's right.

That's true.

No.

I beat him straight up head to head today.

Easy.

In what?

The Rams.

2-0, 0-2.

All right, we'll put out a poll.

Hank does have a little boy ass. See what people want.

Extra pick or no?

Holidays or no?

Just so you know, Hank is trying to manipulate you this is this is election fraud wait who suggested it you told max to say that wait who did max oh i yeah no max what place are you in so in the warm-up um i have nine i went to know and max is only one and one and memes though and excuse me max is oh and two memes oh one-1-1. I don't care.
I'm already mentally committed to this hour. I'm just trying to give the listeners something extra for the holidays.
No, I think I am actually the one that's in favor of the listeners because I think what they want to see more than anything is Hank Lockwood doing an hour standoff. Some people in the holidays, they're either not with their family, they're kind of alone.
It's a lonely time of the year for some people, unfortunately. And having distractions helps.
So giving them an extra game, they can be distracted on Saturday, they can be distracted on Sunday, they can be distracted on Monday. There's still the games.
The games are still going to be on. But they want to tie back into the show.
They can watch the games. With an extra bonus of wondering what happens to this podcast.
No, I think in the true interest of our listeners. Because we are family.
Hang on. And this is something to tie us back to our family.
Shut the fuck up for me. In the interest of our listeners, I think they want to see you go on stage.
And I don't want to take that away from our listeners. That's a lie.
But they also want to see us. This goes back to the Mel Westmore thing.
You guys are the show.

Wait.

They want to see you guys.

But they also want to-

They listen to the show for you guys.

No, but if I'm being honest, I would much rather see Hank on stage.

Hank is-

Hank's learning guitar.

I've been teaching Hank guitar.

They also want to see us do picks on the holidays.

Yeah.

No, they don't.

I don't think that they want to see picks on holidays.

It's crazy if you don't think people want to see you.

They don't want to see picks on holidays.

No, I want to see Hank. Why wouldn't they want to see you? Take us will solve very fast.
They definitely want to see you. Yes, they want to see you.
They would want to see you. I think that Hank would be a great choice.
Listen, as a service to our listeners, I can tell you, I would much rather see you win, Hank. I'm going to say right now, I'm in this competition too.
That's nice. I'm not scared of Hank catching me, so I will not.
I will be happy doing an extra pick. I'll man up.
Should we just take a poll? Why don't we just do four picks or five extra picks? Let's just take a poll between us three. Or six extra picks.
Where do we draw the line? When does this stop? One extra for Christmas. It'll be pretty cut and clear.
If there's a holiday, we'll do an extra pick. New Year's Eve New Year's Eve is a holiday Hank You're gonna ask You're gonna beg for another handout then Is there football on New Year's Eve You're gonna beg for a handout Well then we should probably do another pick It's actually pathetic It's pathetic Hank It's beneath you We should just do a pick for Monday Night Football All of us If that's the case That's a good idea Let's just change idea.
Let's just change the rules. Let's just change all the rules for Hank.
No, I mean, you guys rigged the whole fucking Mount Rushmore. I think Christmas has nothing to do with Mount Rushmore.
I'm just saying, like, you guys are acting like we're. You have PTSD from spending 24 hours or 23 hours in a room with Max.
Listen, like I said. It's the holidays.
It's the holidays. I'm fine.
I know I'm going to do it. I know i know i'm gonna lose pft literally only has to win two games there's basically no percent chance that he does lose so i'm fine either way more like why is he so scared i'm just more like again like you know tough time of year holidays like right you know we want we want to feel a connection to our listeners give them something jake is that a true stat i have my magic numbers two uh you're three and a half up with six to go so it depends so it doesn't sound like i think hank made up those numbers hank yeah it's it's not one in five four and oh and six we would lose what if we can't be two yeah it can't be two what if we uh what if we did like a little barter here and we can do an extra pick for the holidays if you agree that if you lose you get get an extra 10 minutes added.
Oh, fuck no. I don't get, like...
What? I'm down. It's the holidays, man.
It's the holidays. It's the holidays.
It's the holidays. Why would you do an extra 10 minutes? It's the holidays.
I don't have 10 minutes to start. It's the holidays, though.
Give me two songs and I'll deal. Performing them? Yeah.
Yes.

Performing them? Yeah, guitar.

I've been learning guitar.

Okay.

He's learned three chords.

But they can't be more than like six-minute songs.

All right.

All right.

All right.

So Hank's three and a half out with seven picks left.

Yep.

Odds have just changed.

And an hour and ten?

Hour ten.

With two songs.

I don't know.

You disagreed to it.

We didn't shake on it. Hour ten's a lot.
An hour ten's a lot. An hour is a lot.
Five minutes is a lot. But don't you want to provide more entertainment for our listeners? I'm doing an hour.
You're pretty much saying, like, I think so lowly of our own listeners that I'm not willing to... It's actually a favor to the listeners for me to do less time.
No. No, they want to see you.
I want to see you suffer. You guys do.
The listeners don't. The listeners want to see you guys perform because they actually like you guys.
No, I know. Right, right, right.
But it's see us perform because they like us. The only other option is see you suffer.
They're going to do that. Right.
Suffering will get old after like 20 minutes. No, no, no, no.
That would provide them so much more joy. Yeah.
Suffering gets old, but then it becomes funny again. Five minutes.
Okay. Two picks, 10 minutes.
No. So it's up to you.
As much time as you want to add. Seven minutes, one extra pick for the holidays.
You really should just add the pick for the holidays.

For the holidays, Hank.

Seven minutes.

As a gift, you don't have to get me a gift this year.

Okay, that's fair.

I already gave you your gift.

Was it Tiffany?

Yeah.

Gift Raptor.

All right, so one extra pick.

Seven minutes. Even Steven.
Steven Seven minutes Handshake Shake my hand I just want to shake your hand Shake it Hank Come on Hank We gotta get going with the show Alright that's a shake That counts as a shake That counts as a shake Seven minutes Nobody would take what Hank just did with his hand, and he was kind of biting his lip. Nobody would make that into a gift.

You have seven picks to win this thing, Hank.

So would you also have to do seven extra minutes? No, just Hank.

No, no, yeah, absolutely.

We just added seven minutes to the show runtime.

No, I said if you lose, then you have to get an extra ten minutes,

which we bargained down to seven.

That's crazy.

That's what you agreed to.

Whatever.

Shook on it.

I don't really care because I'm going to lose.

Okay.

Shook on it.

What about the holidays?

I was only thinking about the holidays.

PFG is the one that's playing the most scared ball I've ever seen in my entire life.

A little bit of scared ball.

After you talk about Ron Rivera playing scared ball.

You are terrified.

That is a little ironic.

That's not scared ball.

You are up three and a half games with six picks to go.

Ron Rivera wasn't playing scared ball. He was playing just like insane ball.
That's what you're doing. No, no.
We have an agreement. I like our agreement.
Okay. 49ers, Cardinals.
49ers, 45. Cardinals, 29.
49ers have clinched the NFC West. Congrats.
Brock Purdy's the MVP. Brock Purdy said that Christian McCaffrey's the MVP.
That's true. Christian McCaffrey said Trent Williams was the MVP.
I think Trent Williams should be the MVP. I think George Kittle should be the MVP.
You don't even like George, though. You rooted against him in the playoffs.
Oh, here we go. Did I lie? Brock Purdy probably should be MVP.
Yeah. Just by numbers.
Yeah, his problem is that he's always gonna have to deal with like how good his offense is right and how many great players he has and then they'll look at christian mccaffrey and be like well we've known that he's been good for longer than we've known that brock's good for yeah so if the 49ers if like you split the 49ers vote i feel like more people would lean towards christian i it really just matters whoever's going to get the one seed, too. Yeah.
If the 49ers win out, get the one seed, it'll probably be Brock Purdy. Yeah.
Maybe if the Ravens win out, get the one seed. Maybe they become Lamar.
Lamar had a pretty good game tonight. They can be like, oh, we could see this.
We've already done it before. Yeah.
The MVP debate, though, is always just like, I don't really care. Yeah.
They're going to give it to the quarterback on the best team, and they're going to decide it all within the last month of the season. It's like the Heisman.
Yeah. Which we cared.
We cared a lot about that. Anything from this game? I don't really.
49ers have a couple injuries, and the Cardinals are able to run the ball down their throat.'s ass kicking I guess you could say the 49ers defense you'd like to see them tighten it up a little bit Hargraves I think is out and someone else is out as well I can't remember but yeah whatever 49ers I got cute with this game I was like ooh Cardinals could maybe sneak sneak him because 49ers have a look ahead with the Ravens dumb dumb 49ers are a freight train right now and you should not get in front of them under any circumstances yep like if you're trying to bet against the 49ers right now sit down and ask yourself like why am I doing this they are really really fucking good at football and every time they, they've killed everyone. It was Armstead and Hargrave were both out.
I'm just looking forward to the holidays game next. Holidays? Holidays, the Niners and the Ravens.
That's going to be awesome. That's a great game for the holidays.
Good news is we got one last game to get to. Actually, we'll do Ravens-Jags as well.
Bills 31, Cowboys 10.

Henry?

Bloodbath.

I kind of saw this coming, though.

And the Cowboys need to get a couple home playoff games to have a shot.

All the home playoff games.

But guess what?

Today, losing this today, it's going to be tough.

It's a blueprint game. This is a blueprint on how to beat the Cowboys.
Just have them on the road? Yeah, just run the ball down their throat. Oh, I was going to say just play them not in Dallas.
Run the ball down their throat. The Cardinals game this year, was that in Dallas? No.
Was that in Arizona? No, no, no. But they ran the ball down their throat.
That's the key to beating the Cowboys. But the Eagles can run the ball.
They weren't able to do it. The Cowboys at home are 7-0.
Their score average is 40-15. The Cowboys on the road, they're 3-4.
Their score average is 21-22. They're just night and day, different team.
Josh Allen didn't have to do anything. He said after, he's like, I feel like the kid who got the A who just didn't help at all in the group project.
Which is a great sign for the Bills that Josh Allen didn't have to be Superman and they still win. So he had a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown today.
But he was not the star of the show. The star of the show was Cook.
That's the 10th game this season that Allen has, both a passing and a rushing touchdown, and that's the most in a single season in NFL history. He could be MVP.
He could be. Narrative-wise, that's what they do.
If the Bills win that division, I think Josh Allen probably would be the MVP. Yeah, so I hope people listen to our 35-1 Bills rant we had a couple weeks ago because they're now down to, I think, 13.
And they are officially, if you had to go just off of not record, like who you wouldn't want to play right now. Bills.
Bills are probably number one in the AFC. Getting hot.
Ravens maybe. Yeah.
Ravens still, look, I mean, that was a good win for them tonight. Yeah, we'll see what happens next week.
But, yeah, right now, I would, the Bills are, I'd say it's the Bills. Bills are 13-1.
I'm so happy. I mean, like, the Cowboys are just, they're just broads.
It's just the same thing every year. Rob Gronkowski called the mentally weak.
Hank, thoughts? Rob played for the Patriotsots i don't know if you know this is a cowboys fan i did i heard his interview the other day that was great um yeah no they're they're they're bad i don't know if they're bad as much as they are just mentally weak well i think they might be bad just because but this might be the game when everyone everyone everyone forgets about them everyone just discredits them from the playoffs and they then they go make a run there's the bulletin board material something i just thought of like maybe like uh you know when you win championships they'll usually have like a scene in the beginning uh to start it kind of a down part of the season and maybe for the Cowboys championship DVD,

it's highlights from this game and then the narration starts

and it shows the run.

That would be cool.

I mean, this was an old school ass kicking.

Just running it down the throat, manning up.

Like Dak looked like shit.

He's had a great year.

Not taking away from his year, but this is the question with Dak. Go on the road, play a really good team.
What do you look like? Trash. Yeah.
He looked very bad today. Yeah.
Yeah, the Cowboys, they got to circle the wagons right now. They do.
And they have the Dolphins on the road next Sunday. America's Game of the Week.
America's Game of the Week. I would call that limping into the playoffs if they get their ass kicked by the Bills.
It's the fraud ball. And then by the Dolphins.
It will be the fraud ball. And then the Bills, if the Dolphins lose one of the next two and the Bills win out going up to week 18, week 18 will be for the AFC East title, which is crazy.
That'd be awesome. Crazy.

I'll give you a spin zone, Hank. Would you like a spin zone?

Yes, please. Alright, so the Cowboys were all

sick this week. They were?

They had the stomach flu. There were 10 guys on the team.

I think Dan Quinn had the flu too this week.

So there's that.

That plays.

They were just crapping themselves all week.

That definitely plays.

That's what happens with the Eagles tonight, right? Yeah. Maybe it was the Eagles got the – Jalen Hurts got the Cowboys sick.
Oh, yeah. He's the carrier.
Good point. Great point.
Wait, are all the Eagles sick right now, Max? No. That's why Jalen Hurts took a separate plane.
He didn't want to get the team sick. Did he take a private plane? Yeah.
Oh, shit. How much damage did that do to the environment?

Damn. I didn't know.

What, you've never taken private plane? I didn't know he had it

like that, bro. I didn't know he had it

like that.

Yeah, he just signed a pretty big contract.

How much? I'm sure the Eagles probably paid

for it. Eagles own NFL

franchise. Or I guess they are an NFL

franchise.

Talked for one sentence too many.

Last game, Ravens.

That was a good win for the Ravens.

Yeah.

The Jaguars are kind of falling off a cliff.

I feel bad for Jaguars fans.

I do too.

They were on cloud nine when they had that 6-2 record.

And they were playing backup.

It looks so good.

Jake Browning.

Yeah.

They had everything.

You had it right in front of you.

Would Pete Prisco have this as a win?

He probably had his loss.

Really?

That was 13-4.

That was very tough, though, the start of that game,

having three trips, four trips on the other side of the field

and getting zero points.

The Jaguars are like a team where all the pieces are good and make sense sense but then when you put them all together and you have to have them execute against like at a high level it just doesn't work out yeah i did like what trevor did with the his christmas present for the guys for the offensive yeah the golf cart got them golf carts like really tricked out golf carts which is cool considering he would not take a golf cart himself correct last week but yeah if you're if you're a Jaguars fan, you're not optimistic about how this is going to end. Three losses in a row.
Yeah. And they have to go to the Bucs, who are playing good ball.
The Florida Bowl. Shit.
And the Ravens are one seed right now. And if they win, who do the Ravens have this week? The Niners.
Oh, that one shit yeah they got the niners and then the week after that it's the chiefs are gonna fucking end up with one seat chiefs are they just always do it they're gonna luck into it there's a good path for the chiefs right now for sure the chiefs are gonna are gonna end up with the one seat yeah who do they play next week garbage they play Garbage. They play no one but garbage.
They play the Raiders next week. Yeah.
They play the Bengals after that at home. Okay.
And then they finish up. East and Stick? At East and Stick.
Yeah. It's bullshit.
Yeah. The Chiefs are going to have the one seat.
The Chiefs are probably going to win the Super Bowl this year. The Chiefs are going to get the one seat.
The Dolphins are going to lose to the Cowboys. The Ravens are going to lose to the Niners and the Dolphins.
Everyone's 11-5. I mean, I would love to see a rematch.
I would like to see the Chiefs against the 49ers. I'd like to see that game.
How about Bill's 49ers? Yeah, either way.

Good game.

We're getting down to it.

I'm rooting for the games now.

So much football.

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Hank, your who's back of the week.

My who's back of the week is the MLB.

I'm sure you guys saw this.

It is the busy time of the year.

Some would say it's the...

Holidays.

Holidays.

We had NFL football. Oh, we yeah one more pick monday night game how many games are you gonna ask for i'm joking i haven't asked for any max suggested one because i'm joking i'm joking i mean just win pretty fucking simple i've been winning it sounds like you're scared though that you're.
I'm in favor of rules. I'm in favor of structured competition and integrity.
Well, this is the inaugural league this year. And we are one for one on holidays.
I'm just in favor of integrity. That's all.
Yeah. Sounds like you're scared.
But, yeah, probably the busiest time of the year. Everyone's got holiday parties.
Everyone's celebrating the holidays, football on Sunday. MLB, not even broadcasted, decided to host an all MLB event award show where they flew all the players out, announced like first team, second team, all MLB, and no one knew that it was a thing until Saturday.
Wait, what? I have no idea how the MLB decides to do it. This is the first I'm hearing of this.
This happened? Yeah. Or it's happening.
It happened on Saturday, December 16th. Who won? Wait, what did they announce? They had an award show.
Like the NFL and the NBA. Yeah.
The NHL does it. Yeah.
Where was it? I don't majorly you don't have any details in las vegas

they just designed stuff to not have anybody pay attention to it who is there all the stars

what the fuck name one star that was there well that's the problem with mlb i don't know who these

guys are this is very funny they did this was mike trout there i do not see mike trout who these guys are. This is very funny they did this.
Was Mike Trout there? I do not see Mike Trout in these pictures. Oh, I guess it was on MLB Network, 8 p.m.
Eastern, December 16th. Yeah, they go out of their way to have nobody pay attention to their shit.
But that's just classic MLB, so MLB is back. And Karabas is still awake? Yeah.
What else is he doing? Call him to see if you watch this shit. Probably lifting.
He's probably lifting. He's probably doing mock drafts.
Probably watching TV in the shower. Jerking off to himself.
He's got a curl in one hand. He might be asleep.
It is the offseason. It's 1219 a.m.
He might be. Yeah, but he also doesn't have a life.
It's true. So he could be awake.
No, he's not. Is he ducking you? I think he probably is.
I think 1219. Oh, yeah.
What about Dan Heron? Like, asking him. Your call has been forwarded.
I don't think he would.

He's not like a baseball super fan.

He's in baseball.

Why would he watch?

Jared would watch.

If Jared watched, then we know who was the target audience.

If Jared didn't watch, then.

I don't see any tweets from Jared about this event.

Oh, man.

They organized their award ceremonies like we would organize a happy hour. Yeah, like two months after the season ends.
I was thinking about hanging out. On a crazy busy Saturday when people are watching NFL and it is prime time.
People have to do shit like Christmas parties and work parties and all that stuff. Yeah, if you're not doing anything this weekend, I was thinking getting a big group of guys together, hand out the Silver Sluggers.

Yeah.

That was, there was NFL, there was bowl games, and there was like five top ten college basketball games.

NHL, NBA.

Let's fucking hand out a couple gloves.

Pug down, pug down.

Whoa.

Does Pug hurt?

He's okay.

What happened?

Did he fall? Did you fall out of the chair, Pug? Pug down, Pug down Whoa, does Pug hurt? He's okay What happened? Did he fall? Did you fall out of the chair, Pug? Pug is like You broke the chair? No, it was already broken It was already broken Pug is like the Mr. Bean of this podcast He's always like falling down, getting hurt But like quickly scurrying Because he's like, oh no, the camera's about to get me for Pug.
All right, PFT, what's your who's back? My who's back of the week is Uganda football. Yeah.
Uganda football, they lost to Kenya. There's going to be a video coming out, two videos coming out soon.
They lost 38 to 22. You might have seen Billy's all 22 clip of him throwing a dart in the red zone.
I think it was like a seven yard touchdown pass. I think he ran for another touchdown against him.
So Billy says that they had to overcome a lot of adversity on this trip, which I'm sure we'll hear more about. Oh, yeah.
Donnie texted me. It sounded like a lot.
Yeah, I was trying to talk Donnie through it yesterday, being like, if you need more money to make this happen. I said the same thing.
I'm down. And we got it figured out apparently the head of the uganda american football association just like took all the money that we gave them um and just didn't ever book a bus for like a 15 hour bus ride kind of respect didn't give the guy any like that's kind of a badass scam the guys didn't get any food uh so they had to travel overnight with no sleep no no food.
They played against Kenya. Apparently, they fought their guts out.
This was a tweet from Donnie earlier today. This trip was special.
Leaving Africa this time with zero regrets. The players, coaches.
Also zero wins. Zero wins.
But they did score points, so Billy's not fired. The players, coaches, and everyday people we met were so inspiring.
That fat, corrupt scumbag Stephen Oking, who runs the Uganda Football Association, tried to ruin it for everybody, but he did not succeed. Uganda has a legit football team of warriors I'm wicked proud of.
So if you thought that Donnie and Billy would escape Africa without starting an international conflict, I think that you were probably wrong. I think this is the start.
We hope that they get home safe they are in kenya right now not in uganda so i hope that they can get home safe and not uh run into any problems over there but it seems like they're turning this into a flame war with the guy that stole the money we also had uh an all-time billy football clip uh from the news donnie said that they they got split up for a day because donnie was going earlier. It was like, don't do any media.
And then literally the 12 hours that Donnie and Billy weren't together, Billy went on Uganda TV. And this is...
So, first of all, his name is William Carter, which I liked. But here's the clip from Billy.
All-time Billy clip. In the first make, Kenya triumphed against Uganda, and now the Genos will be sickening.
I've been with these guys, working with them since early November. They're very ready.
And the thing was, last game they were ready, very ready, and they played better than the Kenyans. The Kenyans got away with some – They got away with some – not cheating, but some mischief.
But this time we'll have more refs in Nairobi. And I'm very confident in this team.
They've studied hard. They've trained hard.
We will be ready for the Kenyan White Rhinos. Hey, Billy, just while I'm gone, before you meet up with us, can you try not to go on TV and give any sort of bulletin board material to Kenya to be fair he said that he didn't want to accuse him of cheating yeah it was mischief mischief he also like that was a super troopers like Billy how many times you say the word ready yeah he's like we're ready we're really ready and this time we're gonna be really ready it's like last time we weren ready.
When he was on the news in L.A. and he was victim-blaming people for wearing nice watches.
Yeah. Billy is a one-of-a-kind mind.
William Carter. Nobody like William Carter.
I do like the cut of William Carter's jib. It might just be like his alter ego.
But if anybody out there knows mischief, it's Billy. Billy is the king of mischief.
Just a nice four-second pause on TV. Think of a different word for cheating.
Yeah, cheating. Mischief.
I'm trying not to say cheating, so I'll say mischief. He's like, I think like Tom and Jerry, what are they up to all the time? Mischief.
Hijinks. Yeah.
Yeah, that's what's happening. Alright, my who's back of the week is Matt Patricia.
Yeah. And Max said that he was going to talk about the game now.
Yeah, so Matt Patricia is... Might be Max's dad.
Yeah, kind of looks like Max. Taking over as the defensive coordinator, right? That's correct.
Wait, no, wait. PFT, let me ask you a question.
um the eagles are 10 and 3 and it was like maybe two weeks ago that i saw one of their super fans kept on tweeting out uh that they were the one seed uh-huh they were that's kind of crazy yeah change your defensive coordinator and you're the one seed their defense is stacked with talent too right yeah? Yeah. Like pretty much all the Georgia's.
Yeah. Their entire team.
Jalen Carter. So, yeah, they've been pretty good historically defensively.
Why do you think they're making a big change right now? You think this is a good thing for a team? It seems like a panic move. Yeah, you could say panic move.
I think Slay's not going to play, right? Yeah. So, his first order of business was not allowing Slay to play.
I don't know. I don't want to say that's going to upset the locker room.
Panic move? Who does Matt Patricia think he is? Max. I mean, no one got fired.
This happens all the time in the NFL. They switch up play callers.
Someone's just switching up the play call. Does that happen all the time to teams that had the one seed? Well, yeah, every team had the one seed at one point in the year.

You know what I'm saying, Max?

Memes.

I answered the question.

Memes.

Can you, Max, switch seats?

Okay.

Okay.

I'll get this.

Thank you.

Memes, can you make sure that you sit in that seat going forward?

I want you sitting right there.

Okay.

Max, do you think that you got punished at all right now?

Punished for what?

Or like just, you know, demoted a little?

I need to...

No.

We just switched up the seats. It's no big deal.
But you don't feel comfortable. It's not a panic move.
I can tell that you're uncomfortable. Yeah.
We're totally fine. What? This isn't even a...
What would this be panicking about? You just got demoted. This isn't like a system here.
There isn't like a chair one, chair two, chair three. No, no, no.
There is.

Maybe think about putting in a system.

Yeah. Chair three and a half.

Yeah.

Pug broke.

No one got-

Whoever's sitting in the middle is the power chair.

Since when?

Since the whole time.

That's the power chair.

We can't even see you right now, Max.

You're just talking.

We can't even see you.

All right, fine.

I'm down to stop talking.

Matt Patricia over there. Yeah.
Oh, no. You're Sean Desai.
I would be a little bit concerned. Yeah.
You just lost a big seat. I'm worried about beating Seattle, and you're just trying to switch up this narrative, okay? What? It does feel like a panic move.
Yes. The defense is in panic situation.
You said it yourself. Last week, what did you say? The Eagles defense cannot win a Super Bowl.
Okay, fair. Something had to change.
This changed. How do you feel about tomorrow night? Tonight? Really hope Jalen Hurts plays.
Slay not playing. What's wrong with Jalen Hurts? He's sick.
He's not himself. He hasn't been himself.
Correct. Right now he's not himself himself Because I heard some talk about them Benching him for Mariota anyways Yeah I did too I heard some media saying There were rumblings See now you're panicking No Were there not media reports Not real media reports There's been fan fiction on the Twitter streets.

You sound like Hank.

Yeah, because you guys just like to put out fan fiction.

No, it was an actual report.

It was not an actual report.

Show me the fucking report.

Show me the fucking report.

I'm not going to show you the report.

You find the report.

I don't care about this report.

You're the one who cares about this report.

We can't even see you right now because you've been demoted.

I don't know what you're trying to prove here. I think I proved my point.
Also, it's like midnight, but I proved my point. Memes, how do you feel in that chair? Feel good.
Still do my job doing the switcher while Max talks to you guys. Oh, okay.
Nice. Nice.
So what does Max even do? In here? Yeah. Nothing.
Wow. Oh, no.
In this room? Oh, no. No show.
Oh, no. Okay.
It is kind of cool. You really are trying to decide.
How has this come on me? I didn't fucking do anything wrong. No, we're just confused about the various media reports.
Because I've heard it was a demotion. Right.
But you're saying it's not. No, it is a demotion.
I said it wasn't a firing. You guys are putting fucking words in my mouth here.
I didn't do anything. I would be concerned because isn't Matt Patrician an offensive coordinator? And now he's supposed to run the defense? He's not an offensive coordinator.
What was his last job in the NFL? He's a Super Bowl winning defensive coordinator. Hank, factor fucking fiction.
DFT, factor fiction. Yeah, he did win the Super Bowl.
What was his last job in the NFL? He's a Super Bowl winning defensive coordinator. Hank, factor fucking fiction.

DFT factor fiction.

Yeah, he did win the Super Bowl. What was his last job in the NFL? Two eras ago.

Yeah. Defense

changed a lot since then. Well, also, Belichick

was running the defense. We know that about our bill.

Right, Hank?

That was Patricia was

calling plays. Thank you.
Now, Belichick was running

the defense. I'm just, it does feel like a panic move that you're getting an offensive coordinator to now run your defense.
That is incorrect. The defense was really bad.
The defense was in a spot that could not win a Super Bowl. Who knows what's going to happen now, but it's not the same as it was the past three weeks, which was historically bad over a three-week stretch.
Is this a must-win?

Yes.

Oh, okay.

But now it's the whole situation of whether I say it's must-win or not must-win, it all comes back on me of looking bad.

Yes.

Correct.

You finally figured out what we've been doing.

Go-birds.

Yep.

You got it.

It took you a year and a half to figure out what we were doing and you did it, Max. Do you think there's any bad juju around the holidays for a fat guy getting rid of his sleigh? That was hilarious.
Great question. That was awesome.
Great question. Thanks, Jake.
Very cool. He's not getting rid of his sleigh.
His sleigh is hurt. His sleigh is injured.
It's like Rudolph. I don't know where I was going with that.
Max. Steelers fan now? Max, if you lose tomorrow night, the season's over.
No. No.
No. You just said it was a must win.
No. No.
Because this has been my argument since day one. Why I wouldn't say must win.
Well, if you lose a must win, the season's over. must win If it's a must win then you have to win it You should have made this a can't lose It doesn't matter it's the same fucking thing No I've been trying not to curse so much You're making me curse a lot right now Why did your mom tell you to stop cursing? My grandma tells me to stop cursing Does your grandma listen to the show? No she sees clips on Twitter though Your grandma's on Twitter? My mom always tells me.
My grandma tells me to stop cursing. Does your grandma listen to the show? No.
She sees clips on Twitter, though. Your grandma's on Twitter? My grandma is on Twitter, correct.
What's her handle? Yo, what's up? I don't know. What's her at? I honestly have no idea.
Is she? Never mind. Yeah, come on.
Come on. Come on.
Take it easy. Take it easy.
I was just curious if she was one of the reply bots that... Shut up.
Ask if I'm up for some.

Lottery ball.

Jake.

My Who's Back of the Week is award-winning listener Charlie Woods.

Yes.

Big weekend for Charlie playing with his dad.

He had a chip in.

He drove a green on a par four.

He's an absolute beast.

He is a beast.

Did you see him walk in that putt?

Yep.

See him wave the drive goodbye?

Yeah.

Yeah.

He hit like a, I'd say, 17, 18-foot putt and started walking it in. Like halfway through.
Halfway through. Yeah.
Charlie's different. He's awesome.
He's built different. He's him.
Charlie, if you want more part of my take golf gear, we'll send it your way. Shoot us a DM.
I think he's better than his dad. Duh.
I think when all is said and done, Charlie Woods is going to be the guy that completely transforms golf. Agreed.
You're going to break the mold. All right.
Good show. Sorry, again, everyone, for my voice.
I feel like I was okay. It actually sounds better than it did at the start of the show right now.
I talked myself into shape. Yep.
Yeah. I know.
There's like a tea that's out there. It's supposed to help your voice.
I tried it, and I feel like it made it worse to start the show.

Alright, numbers.

40. Numbers.
8.

71. 20.
If I get this,

I get an extra game. 18.
3.

Deal. Wait, but if we

get this, there's one less game. Yep.

Fine. Deal.

If I get it,

I'm on Hank's side. What?

Okay, love it. Thanks.
If you get another game? Yeah. Okay.
What are your numbers? Eight. Forty.
Seventy-one. Three.
Ten for Shane. Eighteen.
Pug, what are you? 23. Pug.
Pug. You have to say Pug.
You have to say Pug. You have to say Pug.
Pug. There we go.
That is I am Pug.

Every time he says Pug, I laugh.

I want to see the video of Pug falling down.

Max, what was your number?

20.

95.

You're always Pug.

I'm Max. Right?

Yeah.

On memes?

Yeah.

We're all 95.

Pug? 95. All right.
Good show, boys. Love you guys.
and Max right yeah memes yeah we're all 95 95 alright good show boys

love you guys I'll be coming for I'll be gone.

Needless to say.

I'll hold a sentence.

But I'll be stolen away.

Learn and learn that life is okay.

Say after me.

I feel better to be safe and sorry. Take me on I'll be gone In a day of change.
Take on me, take me on I'll be gone When I do too