Jeff Saturday, Week 15 Picks And Previews, And The Chargers Quit On Life

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Okay, let's go. It's part of my take.
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Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, December 15th.
And boys, I think Brandon Saley might get fired. Or he's fired already.
He might be fired overnight. He might be fired right after this game because we're taping the rare taping in the third quarter of thursday night football it is 42 to 0 the las vegas raiders versus the los angeles chargers pft he's gone he has to be gone right now either that or we learned today that maybe the minnesota vikings defense is just awesome for holding the the raiders scoreless for an entire game but this is this is like as bad a performance as i've ever seen and i'm a fan of the washington football team redskins commanders like i've seen teams quit before big cat you've seen teams quit before this is this is quitter this is quiet quitting right now they're just not even playing anymore brandon staley um i guess there's worse places to be fired than las vegas true seems like if you get fired in vegas at least do it before i have to go to bed wake up early get on a flight back the next day like just tell me right now you get a free night in vegas you've got checks coming in you're going to get paid for the next several years no matter what um just let let the boys have a fun night in ve.
I actually think if he got fired in Vegas, I think he could probably interview for the Raiders job tomorrow and be like, Mark Davis, I don't know if you know this, but I went to the playoffs last year. Like, did we play you last night? No, no, that was a different guy.
Don't worry about it. You bring up an interesting point, Big Cat.
What if there's like a little handshake deal going on right now between Mark Davis and Brandon Ston staley like i want to hire you as my next coach as a show of good faith yeah just let us beat the fuck out of you for a full game if you go along with that then you can just stay yeah yeah we'll we'll make that deal i'll unload on the uh raiders and uh i'll i'll get to go to pf changs for life there you go so mark davis puts a fuckload of money on the Raiders to cover tonight. Brandon Staley, you'll be my next coach.
He then has enough money to pay off John Gruden. Yes.
And Josh McDaniels. And then he's got a little bit of money.
And there's some clown shit going on right now. The Raiders just did a trickeration play for another touchdown to Devontae Adams.
It's there. I've never seen a team quit as much as the Chargers are quitting right now.
I know Justin Herbert's out, but this is like a full-on quit. It was so bad that they were showing, I think it was whose tattoos? Was it Max Crosby's tattoo? With like 10 minutes left in the second quarter, Al and Kirk were already in garbage time.
Like they started burning their garbage time material so goddamn fast. I'm actually worried for Al.
Like I don't know what he's going to say in this fourth quarter. That might be the only reason to tune in.
He shouldn't even be on the broadcast anymore. Let Al go out to the steakhouse.
Let him start with the scotch. We don't need announcers anymore in this game.
I think just having a close-up of Brandon Staley, we don't even need to watch the game. Let's just watch Brandon Staley for the rest of this game.
It's crazy, and guess what? The other thing, we buried the lead here. PFT, you were up first with Shake Shack, so Raiders minus 2.5.
I'm going to call it right now. I think we can call it 49.
Nothing. Yeah.
I'll allow that. We'll call.
Yeah. You were you.
I tweeted like I was like, great job. BFT.
Thanks. BFT.
Thanks. Shake Shack.
And you're like, don't mush it. It's like it was 28.
Nothing at the time. I think the Raiders, the Chargers have quit so fast in this game.
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So a couple of things, PFT. I have a couple questions for you.
First, so Aiden O'Connell didn't throw that touchdown pass, correct? No. They should have.
These are the games that just go for records. Aiden O'Connell had four touchdown passes in the first half.
The record is seven, which is tied by a bunch of people. These are the gate like everyone's been in this game in Madden or like college football.
Like just go for records. I want to see it get so much worse.
If it's going to be a bad game, I want the worst things to possibly happen. So yeah, I want the Chargers to keep fumbling.
I want the Raiders to keep doing fuck shit on offense. I want Aiden O'Connell to throw for 10 touchdowns.
I want Mark Davis to come down on the sidelines shirtless, just dancing around. I want Brandon Staley to get assaulted by his own team.
I want a complete shit show if this is going to be off the rails like this. Give everything to us.
So my question, the other question I had for you PFT is I got old takes exposed tonight uh our friend old takes exposed is going back for Brandon Staley uh tweets and I said I think it was that press conference where Brandon Staley was talking about his like fourth down you know thoughts like I want to be aggressive and I was like Chargers Chargers got it right with Brandon Staley. This is from 2021.

Brandon Staley was a good coach for a year.

His brain melted.

Something happened in the last two years where everything changed.

But remember when Brandon Staley came on the scene?

He was a breath of fresh air.

We had him on this show.

I was jealous of the Chargers.

Everything.

So I guess my question is this. Is Brandon Staley a bad coach or did the Chargers just get into his brain? Like lead poisoning.
I think he's a great coach right now because they're tied 7-7 in the second half. The Chargers just scored a touchdown.
So don't write. Don't write.
You're so far ahead of me. It's insane.
Don't write. Insane.
I hate the internet. Streaming.
Streaming has somehow made it so that everyone in Americaica watches games at different times i don't think there's one house that's the exact same there should be one there should be one like how they have greenish meantime and and like big ben is the clock that everybody goes off there should be one computer that's playing the game and that's like this is the the actual time try to sync up as close as possible to it uh but yeah yeah, the chargers are now seven, seven second half. So don't write them off just yet.
Brandon Staley mounting a furious comeback, but he was a good head coach. Like, don't let, don't let what's happened recently fool you.
He was a good coach that first year. What always has sucked about him though, is his defense, which is weird.
He's a defensive coach and he, his defenses are always in the bottom, bottom five of the NFL. They've had some bad injury luck.
I will say that the Chargers seem to be more injured than any other franchise with maybe the exception of the Ravens. But they always get guys banged around.
They never have their best players out there. Brandon Staley is not a good defensive coach at all.

The fourth down thing, that is great if you're winning.

But if your defense is such shit that you don't even have an opportunity

to flex your fourth down analytics muscles, then it's a big issue.

Plus, really, you could say Brandon Staley has set the analytics community

back like 40 years.

Yeah.

Because he's known as the analytics poster boy the wonder kid yeah of the analytics movement and the fact that his teams have fallen apart so so terribly uh really makes you think like i don't want my head coach ever look at a number again yes you're you're absolutely right he's he's ruined it for everyone else um this game is so bad though it's so bad it is giving me flashbacks you mentioned at the start pft that We've seen this before for everyone else. This game is so bad, though.
It's so bad. It is giving me flashbacks.
You mentioned at the start, PFT, that we've seen this before for our teams. It gave me a flashback that Hank's going to have a chuckle for.
Remember that, Hank? I'm pretty sure the Packers were up 42-0 on the Bears, and it was like Aaron Rodgers was playing a video game, and I was sitting in a hotel room in Arizona. And Dave and Hank were with me.
And they just sat next to me and just laughed in my face for an entire half. There's been some bad ones.
This is, you know, you just got to regroup. Maybe Easton Stick will get hot in the second half.
And then you can trade him to someone for like a third-round pick. Well, that's the thing.
You can't even say we should take our starters out because neither team really has starters that they're playing right now. Right.
It's great. Like Aiden O'Connell, he's going to stay in the game.
Although they keep showing Aiden O'Connell, doesn't he look a little bit like a really bad video game rendition of Derek Carr? He's like, they don't get the pixels just exactly right. And then they've got Easton stick.
And what are you going to do? Sit Easton stick down. Put Max Duggan in.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, it's just like it's I don't know what you do. I don't know what you do.
So it's it's a shit show for the Chargers right now. It's an absolute shit show.
Yeah. Put in Max Duggan.
If I were a player, I'd not want to come out. I'd want all the stats.
Yeah. Although like the way the Chargers are playing, that are playing, you'd probably fumble the ball a lot.
Everyone's fumbling on the Chargers. They should just call it a game.
They should just slaughter rule it, say, mercy rule, take your ball, go home, shut out the Indiana Pacers. There's no point in continuing this.
Yeah, yeah. It's bad, bad, bad.
I had one other thing before we kick it to ourselves, and we're going to talk all the games on Saturday and Sunday. I had some breaking moves.
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and something he takes very seriously. So it's no surprise stayed in kansas city ahead of this weekend's game selfish selfish boyfriend this is taylor deserves somebody that will take that will make time for her the this is um i i really i really wish i could talk to the author who who spent all day trying to find sources uh to to see if.
Be like, wait, so could he have skipped it? Could he have gone to the party? I'm going to double check this. Let's really find out.
Yeah. I mean, he probably could have.
It's another boyfriend that won't miss work for whatever she puts. She puts him first.
She shows up all the time to his games. He can't make time to visit her.
I did see a picture of her birthday party so i've got a picture right here she got a big it looks like a cookie cake and um in the background there's a guy that looks a whole lot like jeff darlington back there oh i don't know if i don't know what's going on we've been putting the pieces together with jeff She has a thing for him. I don't know if Jeff's swooping in on Travis Kelsey.
Jeff and Taylor sitting in a tree. By the way, the Chargers team account.
I like this. They just posted the touchdown.
It just said we scored period all lowercase. I like it.
Yeah, like lean into it. This is a shit show.
Everyone should have fun with this. I know people like when these games happen like it just becomes a roast let's just have fun with it like just do weird shit dude this is actually a perfect time for my fake punt punt I like that yeah the fake punt punt would be good no one would see the fake punt punt coming break out the downfield laterals yes weird way to get experimental with it I the more I think about it it's not it's not the craziest thing that we've ever said that brandon staley has given this game to mark davis yeah no i i it will if he was able to get some action on it he could pay off all his debts and then start fresh and brandon staley would be like listen i'm such a good coach i will make sure this game is never in doubt that you win like you will never even have to sweat like for a second this game that's how good of a coach I am yeah you think he could you think if a coach was good enough they could give you the final score of let's just say 55 to 7 and hit it perfectly it'd be pretty pretty tough.
That would be like a perfect score.

It'd be pretty tough.

But maybe Brandon Staley's that good.

He's a savant.

Oh, Chargers are starting to come back.

This would be the funniest thing ever.

Actually, someone had a perfect tweet.

I can't remember who it was.

I apologize.

But they're like, this won't be a real Chargers game

until they tie it 42-42 and then lose on a safety. Yeah, so yes, that's always in play with the Chargers.
That would be really good. Should we should we talk a little bit about the Giannis ball controversy? Yeah, sure.
The Pacers and the Bucs have a rivalry now talking about getting their licks in and everything. Yeah, it's good.

This is good for basketball.

Giannis dropped 64, I believe.

And the Pacers took the game ball because Oscar Toshibue had his first point.

He scored a point.

And they were like, we need to save this ball for him.

And then Giannis stormed into the locker room, like sprinted into the locker room

to try to get the game ball back.

My question is. Wait.
Don't. Yeah yeah the best part is he had the game ball what do you mean so i a worldwide wob i think broke it down i'm pretty sure the bucks trainer got the ball that he had that last dunk from so he had the actual game ball he just didn't see it oh so it was a miss it was misunderstanding yeah like they had the original game ball and I think the Pacers then took the next ball or like a ball around there and so the whole thing started and it was like they actually had the ball the whole time well that was going to be my question is aren't isn't there more than one ball there is more than well no it's just one ball there is just one ball you there.
Just one ball. Actually, no, it was a serious question because in football, you've got a bunch of different game balls.
And in baseball, obviously, tons of them. But in basketball, do they just keep the ball for as long as it stays relatively inflated? I know they have backup balls.
The pictures of the hallway is so funny of, like, Giannis being back and everything. So I'm watching right now.
It's a complete misunderstanding. The game ends and the Bucs trainer literally runs right out and gets the ball from the ref.
The original game ball. Giannis is kind of a psycho, huh? It's so good.
I didn't know he had that in him. He always seems like a mild-mannered guy, has fun with the media.
Like, what a psycho to go try to storm into the locker room to steal a ball. He needs his ball.
Give me the ball. What's he going to do with that ball? He basically was no different than, like, a Labrador.
Being like, I need my ball back. Give me my ball.
Just, like, completely focused on the thing. My theory was they should cut the ball in half and give half of it to oscar half of it to yannis and then see which one says no don't cut the ball in half i'd rather see the full ball go to the other person then you destroy it and split it between us yes i mean let's do it it's worked in biblical times which one is that solomon solomon which one samson's is the hair right the hair the hair thing yeah yeah we also have an end to our long national nightmare we know what what shohei otani's dog's name is oh i didn't see this i got a very important push notification from the athletic on that one his dog's name is hang on let me pull this up so i don't mispronounce it his dog's name is decoy but in japanese i think it's deco pin and that means to flick one's forehead so he named his dog boop oh well no flick is not a boop i think like flick tap probably the same thing yeah um Shohei's going to be a villain now, by the way, because I'm pretty sure the Dodgers have traded for Glasnow from the Rays, and they have, like, all this money to operate.
Shohei's going to be hated if the Dodgers win, like, 120 games in the World Series. He's going to be hated.
For sure. Like, we hate everybody that's successful.
That's kind of what we we do but the flip side is what's going to be very funny because it's more realistic to happen is the dodgers are going to win 120 and then get bounced in a five-game series and everyone's going to be like the playoff structure is wrong the format's off yeah it's good i actually look i'm looking forward to that moment well that's gonna be a great day that would rock if that's happens. But if they win like four World Series in a row, then everyone's going to be like, fuck this, break up the LA Dodgers.
Yes, yes. Okay, should we kick it to ourselves? I think it's time.
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Okay, boys. Week 15.
We're in the fourth quarter of the football season. Well, here's the thing, PFT.
We have this discussion. We cherish it.
The minute Saturday football shows up, it's usually in your head. You're like, oh, yeah, NFL Saturday.
I love NFL Saturday, but it is a Pavlovian response of, like, I shouldn't be watching this NFL Saturday. I should be doing holiday shopping.
To me, it's more like you get a football weekend of NFL, which is nice. Like the nfl and bowl games their credit they they stay off saturdays for the most part until college football is over they stay off fridays for the kids that are playing high school football yep um but then once college football goes away for the most part they're like okay let's fucking just take over the entire weekend yep and so we go three saturday seven early sunday three late sunday night monday night should have given us two Monday nights.
Did you see that next year or maybe not next year, but they just announced that they're going to start doing eight games overseas. I know this is I said a lot of this.
It's a lot of international game. It's it's America's game.
Again, we are we are we are the only ones I think talking about this. They are trying like damn hell to get a Super Bowl overseas, and we have to stop it.
So let's all not watch the first quarter next year of all these games. So, yeah, first quarter, maybe.
No pregame. No pregame.
I'm not watching any pregame in the Brazil game. Brazil? Yeah, there's a Brazil game coming.
As of yesterday. Tom Brady out of retirement.
Woo back Giselle. I like that idea.
Mike Florio, get on that. Belichick loves big asses.
Yep, that's facts. He'll probably be down there.
We're about two years away, I'd say, from our first Saudi Arabia game. Yeah.
Probably, I would imagine the Bills would be in that. That would be a private game, though.
Yeah. No one can watch.
Pay-per-view. It would just be for some, you know, Sultan's son.
It would just be forbs and his voice yeah he'll just be hanging out all right so let's get into the games week 15 we're gonna this is the week where like last week was crazy because we had a lot of bad teams on paper beat good teams uh and win games but this is the week i think that we're going to get a very clear here is what the playoffs they're shrink they're going to shrink down to maybe eight teams instead of right now in the AFC. There's like 11 teams.
NFC, there's eight or nine teams. Once we get through this weekend, I think it's going to be pretty clear who's going to be most likely in the playoffs because there will only be three games left.
There's a great graphic out there of it visualizes it for you. Like, I love data visualizations because I'm dumb.
I need like a chart to tell me what's going to happen yeah it shows you how much your your chances improve if you win this weekend versus how much they decrease if you win this weekend so it looks like the broncos have the most to gain this weekend with a win yeah um and the there's some teams at the top that obviously doesn't really matter or not i'd say broncos packers Packers, Bucs. That's going to be a good game, the Bucs and Tampa Bay.
Yeah. Because whoever wins that one, I think you should have to.
It's going to be in a good spot. To about like 75% or more.
I like that you said the visual stuff because that is one of the greatest cop-outs in the world, being like, I'm more of a visual learner. It's essentially saying, I don't want to hear you talk anymore.
I also like, it's a close neighbor of, you know what, I have time blindness. So i'm not it's a disability that i have yeah that's why i'm not ever on time it has nothing to do with the fact that i was playing candy crush while i was taking a shit for 45 minutes when i should have been getting ready definitely not but i i will look at any chart and i'll pretend to understand a chart but if you put numbers in front of me then i'm like this is it's too close to math yes okay first game sat uh sat afternoon, Vikings-Bengals.
This game's actually kind of a fun game because we have the backup bowl. Jake Browning has been playing well versus Nick Mullins.
Josh Dobbs is now QB three. Probably for the better.
Probably for the better. The Josh Dobbs, it was fun.
I think that if you want to tell the story of the 2023 season you can't leave out Josh Dobbs but it was time it was time to move on I would say I would I would put him at QB2 because if something happens to Mullins and he gets hurt Josh Dobbs might be good coming in as backup but they did not but they did Jaron Hall is QB2 but I this game is fun to me because it is two backup quarterbacks. So you say on paper, Ooh, that's kind of gross.
But I would argue that, uh, the Bengals and the Vikings are top five in terms of weapons on either side. So the backup quarterbacks are set up pretty well.
Justin Jefferson's back. So Justin Jefferson, Jordan, uh, Addison and Hawkinson.
And then on the other side, you know, T Higgins, Boyd, Jamar Chase, Joe Mixon, and this new guy, Chase Brown. He was on the IR earlier this season.
Yeah, new guy to this season. Fast as fuck.
It's a new name that everybody should know. Yes.
Yeah, talk to us about this game. What are you thinking? Okay, so is Jake Browning, is he really a backup at this point? Because I feel like Jake Browning has played his way into being like this team has a chance this team has a chance i think the i think the bangles actually have a chance they could make some noise in the playoffs how about that i don't think that they have a chance to win the super bowl i but i i could see them winning a playoff game with jake browning i'm at the point now with the afc that i everything's on the table because everyone's gotten injured and no team has looked dominant that it is going to be the most wide open AFC playoffs.
And when I say that, it's probably gonna be the Chiefs getting the one seed somehow. I kind of like the Vikings in this game though.
And I like them because Brian Flores, we touched on it on Sunday that he is doing stuff that people can't even figure out with his defense. Zone blitzes, just multiples.
You gotta say multiples when you talk about this stuff. He's doing a lot of multiples.
He's got guys at every level. Every single level.
So, yeah, I think that this is going to be Jake Browning's first test, true test, because the Colts and the Jaguars aren't great defenses. The Vikings have been playing like a great defense.
That's going to be tough, and you're getting points. Yeah, I kind of like the Vikings in this game.
Probably going to be confusing for Jake Browning. But counterpoint, it's a Jake Browning revenge game.
It is. That's true.
He almost quit football. Yep.
So he was actually, I think the story was he was like driving to go coach high school football when he took one more shot with the Bengals. Thank God he did.
Yes. This is also a big game for one particular Bengals fan, Florence Hackman.
She goes by Flo. Okay.
She's turning 105 years old on Saturday. Okay.
And she's celebrating with her three favorite things. This girl can party.
Firefighters, watching football, and whiskey. She's drinking fireball, having a bunch of firefighters over to her birthday because she's horny for firemen wait how old is she and watching the bangles she's turns she turns 105 years old on saturday hell yeah and she's having a wait let me see a picture okay i'll show you a picture you want to see it i think you want to put on the bonk list florence hackman when are we doing the bonk list should we do it next week it's the end of the year i don't think hanks oh hey it's not ready that was a not ready tell me she doesn't look good for 105 oh she's hot she's real hot lawrence hackman having a big firefighter whiskey party drinking fireball yeah this is a party girl right here florence and rooting for bangles don't make a lot of florences anymore i'm rooting for this floor i know when we do the bunk list one no no you cannot save it for your set i'm going to no that's bullshit you're robbing the people the bunk list the bonk list.
When? No, no, you cannot save it for your set. I'm going

to. No, that's bullshit.

You're robbing the people of the bonk list. The bonk list

was an all-time moment last year.

And it will be an all-time moment. No.
I need fucking

material. No, you can't.
That's not.

You can't do that. The bonk list is a podcast.

Make your own bonk list, buddy. No.

The bonk list, you can replay. You know what? No.

Here's what you can do. I can replay it on the show after

I do it. No, no, no.
You can replay it on the- You can do a visual bonk list in the set. That's fair.
No. So, Hank, how much crossover- AWLs, tell Hank to release the bonk list.
Tweet him and say- I'll release the bonk list. You want to tweet it out? No, but you have to do it on the show.
I will. No.
I will. This is bullshit.
How much crossover is there between the bonk list and the no-fly list, Hank? That's just- That's a good one. You're picking up what I'm putting down.
Yeah. Well, you're- Wait, you're fucking Jeff Nadu? I get it.
Oh, there you go, Jake. I got it.
Nice. Proud of myself.
We'll figure out something to do, but I will help make you- You know what? What if I do this? Okay. You release the bonk list.
I will make you a slideshow for the show with the bonk list. Deal? I'll make you a slideshow.
We have to be very careful about what we say to Hank over the course of the next month and a half. I know.
He's just farming us. Everything is just going to.
Well, I'm not going to do that now. I'll put that in.
Yeah. He is just doing future Hank.
He's just farming. He's not going to talk for the next month and a half.
Yeah. Saving it for the show yeah he's he is just doing future hank he's just far he's not gonna talk for the next like month and a half yeah saving it for the show he's not even talking right now every every word that he uses right now is wasted that that could be in my set i have an hour to do okay uh that's the perfect that's a perfect perfect time for it actually what about all the people that go to the show that aren't part of my take fans that are going there for a nice evening of comedy and all of a sudden you're doing this very inside joke about the bonkers all right i'll do it at the end so those people will already left okay okay we'll talk we'll talk off here because they're so disappointed yes also uh i'll say the idea out loud uh remind jake oh you just spilled on yourself you're two for two two for two.
Two for two in the last show is spilling. Jake, remind us when we go to Vegas when PFT and I need to buy somewhere between 1,000 and 2,000 tomatoes that we can pass out to the crowd.
Just full tomatoes. Yeah.
There'll be a segment for the tomato throwing. If you're doing bad, you should get tomatoes thrown at you.
Or

I'll start throwing them back. I'll bring

a fucking gun. Here's a

fun compromise. I'll

do no tomatoes. You can't do the

bonk list. No, fine.
Alright, tomatoes on.

If you don't think I'm throwing them back, I'll directly

at you and get everyone else. I'm not gonna throw

them. Other people are gonna throw them.
You can't throw them at me.

I will. Okay.
Well, I'm not

even gonna be there. Speaking of reminders, happy J 15th respect yokich every other month now okay that's too much i'm not ready i was just following your guys direction you know you were you were that didn't count for this month because we just we just respected yokich last week i was gonna say tennis ball gun i just didn't say tennis ball i'm not gonna bring a That was a little.
No, you said gun. We'll clip that and send it to the FBI.
By the way, we have Hank. Bad for ratings if you murder our audience.
This has been a long week. We've been in the office a lot.
We got full on goofy Hank today, which is my favorite Hank. He's goofy brained.
Also, if you're in Las Vegas, I'm pretty sure that Nevada is a standard ground state. So if Hank does have a gun, you're welcome to produce your own firearm.

Yep, that's a fact.

All right, Nerd Nugget.

In the 14 meetings between the Vikings and Bengals, the road team has won just one time.

The series is tied 7-7, but the Bengals lead 7-1 in Cincinnati, while the Vikings are 6-0 in Minnesota.

Okay, this is to decide the ultimate NFL rivalry, the Vikings or the Bengals.

That stat means nothing. Home teams won 13-14.
I mean, the ones last time they played, four years ago? Probably. Yeah.
These two teams don't like each other very much. Yep.
Well, no, they actually like them a lot when they come visit. True.
Because they win. Yeah.
All right. Steelers at Colts next game.
I'm going off vibes in this game. PFT.
I got stats for some games. a vibes game i got some stats for this one okay you want to go stats and then i'll get my vibes that's the colts are 6 and 26 against the steelers all time oh ursa tweeted that out himself he's thinking about it he's thinking about it hard he does have the power to open up the roof which is probably the one piece of power that that ursa has to affect the game it's only going to be 50 degrees He could bring a gun.
We might get – yeah, he could. Well, I don't know if he's legally allowed as his charges.
But it's going to be 50 degrees outside. The roof could be open in Indy this weekend.
So that's what I'm hoping for. Another stat, TJ Watt has been cleared by an independent neurologist, probably in Pittsburgh, probably with a terrible towel framed above his medical degree.
Wait, no. the steelers have never done anything with bad doctors on the team right they've never done that yeah was it was this uh tell the truth tell the truth because that guy is pittsburgh right yeah no that was what i was alluding to yeah that was all the steelers team doctor tell the truth yeah um and then there was another thing that happened this week where big ben went on his podcast and said maybe the Steelers tradition is over at this point.
You've lost Big Ben. And I don't know what Big Ben thought the Steelers tradition was.
I think in Big Ben's mind, the Steelers tradition was Big Ben playing quarterback because that's what I think about when I think about the Steelers. Yeah, I went on our – for everyone who's listening in Pittsburgh, you probably know this, but PFT and I trade off.
We do Thursdays with our guys at WDVE, Randy Baumann and Bill Crawford, and they are down. I'm sure.
It was down. It's a tough time.
It was not. They were talking to me about Mitch, and now they also are.
I guess there's a rumor that the Steelers could be in the running to get Justin Fields in a potential trade. So it's essentially like it couldn't, it's the shittier version of the Packers and Jets pipeline.
Yeah, this is going to be the Steelers. They're not going to be bad enough to draft a good quarterback.
Correct. I still believe in Kenny.
They could make the play.

I kind of believe in Kenny Pickett, too,

just because you look at the change between Mitch and Kenny,

and the offense looks entirely different.

So here's the vibes.

Ready for the vibes?

The Steelers just lost to the Cardinals and the Patriots,

two of the worst four teams in the NFL.

Yep.

Mitch looked really bad.

The Steelers have looked really bad.

You have to bet the Steelers.

That's the vibe.

That is kind of how it goes with that team.

That is the vibe.

The harder they bounce back.

Mike Tomlin is not a favorite anymore.

He was a favorite the last two games.

That's the vibe.

There's no Jonathan Taylor.

No Jonathan.

The Colts do run a lot of cover three. Mitch does do well historically that would be the one defense he would pick yeah i don't yeah wait are we sure jonathan taylor's out i want to double i want to cross check that i know that it doesn't look likely that he's playing right yeah we made this mistake with tank dell and then no no.
Yes. Rap sheet.
Was that the Royal We?

We as a podcast.

Yeah.

We all... You didn't stop me.

We made this mistake as a group.

We are collectively responsible for Tank Dell.

No, you get to just...

We don't want to do that again with Jonathan Taylor.

You get to expand the circle when you're wrong.

Barstool Sports as a whole made a mistake about Tank Dell.

Sports journalism.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The industry made a mistake.

Let's go 10,000 000 foot view you know what

our generation made a mistake about tank del saying like we'd rather be first than write about

it yes we don't want to do this as millennials yeah no it's it's like you know the greatest

generation is you know who fought world war ii our generation is just the generation that got

the tank tell news wrong yeah and it's a black eye that we're never going to recover from as a whole

unless we try to make steps as a group and yes fact check things so yes jonathan taylor is out

Thank you. tank tail news wrong yeah and it's a black eye that we're never going to recover from as a whole unless we try to make steps as a group and yes fact check things so yes jonathan taylor is out per jake marsh so if jake's wrong it's all his fault yep okay uh jake nerd nugget saturdays are for the steelers no team has had more success on saturdays than the pittsburgh steelers their 36 victories on saturday are the most in the nfl since 1940 that's.
I like that stat. I like it a lot.
Mike Tomlin, I heard some rumors, and I think this went along with Big Ben's characterization of the Steelers tradition being over. I think this was Big Ben kind of calling for Mike Tomlin's job, probably for not bringing him back.
Yeah. That's my guess on it.
But you have the conversation in, was it Steelers country nation sealers nation uh they're talking about like is this the last year for mediocre mike i one year left on his contract it'll be such a sweet job if you just got hired by the sealers because you know you've got 20 years yeah actually that was that was another to reference wdv again they asked me about belichick and and they're like what do you think's to happen there? And they're like, wouldn't it be so weird if they fired him? I was like, you guys, of course it would be weird for you guys. You'd never get new coaches.
Yeah. Like the Steelers can't.
What? What's that? There's been no follow-up from that. We'll get to the Patriots.
Yeah, we'll get to the Patriots. Okay.
But, yeah, the Steelers, they have, what, three coaches in the last 50 years?

Yeah, it's like being a Supreme Court justice.

It's the best job security in America.

Either that or Ben Mintz.

Yeah, job for life.

Job for life.

But Mike Tomlin can say that.

He can, yeah.

Broncos at Lions.

I'm excited for this game.

It's going to be a good one.

I am excited for this game.

I have a spin zone for the Lions.

And we talked to Jeff Saturday in a little bit, right? You're getting C.D. Deuce back on defense.
The defense that the Colts had when they sucked and then they ended up making a Super Bowl run, was that the same year where Bob Sanders came back? Bob Sanders, yeah. Changed the entire defense? So fast.
Just tell yourself that C.D. Deuce is the missing link.
He's Bob Sanders. He's Bob Sanders.
Dan Campbell says that he's an X-man, the way that he's recovered. I love that.
Which is just a great term to say about somebody. Yeah.
Unless you're a female swimmer. I think that he's been – should we edit that out? No, fine.
No, no. Let's keep it in.
We're loopy. He's been medically cleared to play football, which no doctor should ever medically clear somebody to play football.

If you're a good doctor, you should never be like,

okay, you can go play NFL football. That sounds safe.

Yeah, here, take two footballs.

Yeah.

Take two football games and call me in the morning.

I'm sure you'll feel better after you play football with these injuries.

Yeah.

But you can talk yourself into your defense improving

if you get a big missing part back.

Yes.

I think a lot of people thought that he would be a big upgrade on defense.

So just tell yourself that.

I'm still rooting for the Lions.

I want them to succeed.

I want Detroit fans to be happy.

You just have to have some form of hope right now,

and I feel like that might be the one to zero in on it.

I think the Lions are going to win this game.

I think they're going to cover this game.

The Lions at home, indoors, have been different. Jared Goff, indoor.
He's an indoor cat. He's 5% better completion percentage, 14 touchdowns, 6 interceptions, 7 and 4 outdoors.
Everyone's been shitting on the Lions. They've been really bad.
I was thinking about it more. The Bears are kind of, and Lions fans will agree with this, the Bears kind of do have the Lions number in the fact they don't win all the time but they they play them really tough yeah and so the Lions have played three out of the last four games have been division games which are tough games to play especially later on in the season teams know you so well they went you know Packers Bears Saints then then Bears again now they get to the Broncos.
The Broncos aren't great against the run. I also have a stat for you.
This is a nerd stat. Maybe it's my nerd stat of the week.
Oh, I like that. I like that name.
Nerd stat of the week? Yeah. Nerd stat of the week.
Do-do-do-do. I hate that.
Yeah, that was bad. From my guys at Sports Info Solutions, they have all the charts and stuff.
The Lions play middle of the field open defense. Six most in the NFL.
Russell Wilson is the third worst in the league against that. Can't throw over the middle.
Too short. Counterpoint, how much of that has to do with Jerry Judy not being able to catch a football? Also true.
Also true. But I think this is the spot to buy back on the Lions.
Like they're going to get home. They've not looked good.
And I also like I know the Broncos are a really good story. It's incredible how they turn their season around.
I still think there's a little bit of smoke and mirrors going on. I like the Lions.
I think they're going to run the ball. I think Jameer Gibbs.
I think it's going to be a big Jameer Gibbs game. Yeah, so since week six, the Broncos defense is first and third down percentage, first and takeaways, second and points allowed per game.
Takeaways. Takeaways is part of it.
Second and points allowed per game, second and touchdowns allowed per game. Those last two stats have a lot to do also with the takeaway factor.
Takeaways. We're not allowing points.
What week was that from? Since week six. Week six.
So that's when they kind of turned it around, became these Broncos, not those Broncos. I do like the Lions indoors.
I think anytime you see your quarterback wearing two gloves when it's outside, you have that feeling like, I don't think he's ready for this. Yeah.
Unless you're Teddy Bridgewater. But I do like the Lions at home in the dome.
I do think that the Broncos are still going to make the playoffs even if they lose this game though yeah i think they're back if they if they win this game and i've been fucking around with the playoff machine on espn all week long it's the best piece of technology that's ever been invented and uh yeah if they win this game they are in the playoffs as of right now wow which is it's crazy crazy to think that about the broncos so i just I just looked at the schedule, that turnaround on their defense. It's been very good.
I mean, Josh Allen, they played Josh Allen. They played Patrick Holmes.
He did have the flu. A couple of other games, they played DTR and smushed him, and they played Easton Stick and smushed him.
But that's why I think the Broncos are a great story. I just think this is where the Lions get right.
Yeah, I tend to agree with you. I think the Broncos broncos defense i don't think that it's all luck i think that no they've actually turned it around sean payton well they got a year yeah comeback coach of the year he might be but they have to get they have to turn the ball over which jared's got to do better you know he's had a couple rough games where he's been throwing picks i feel like though they're gonna they're gonna run the ball a lot.
Maybe some easy passes to Jameer Gibbs.

Get him out in space.

I'm going Lions.

All right, Nerd Nugget.

Reminder about the baby bump.

Russell Wilson.

Okay.

Having a baby.

Okay.

For the first time in NFL.

I know he was pregnant.

Why the buddy pregnant?

Yeah.

What?

Russell Wilson.

He played pregnant?

That's really impressive.

That's like Serena winning whatever. All right, maybe I'm on the Broncos now.
They've turned around all this time. He was in his third trimester.
Pretty impressive. Serena Williams won an Australia Open.
Ciara had a baby. Yes.
Let's show respect to the mother. What was that look for, Hank? Hank? Ciara? She had a baby.
No, Serena Williams. Oh.

Wasn't that an unfair advantage?

Oh, yeah. That was one of the first examples of us being so wrong that we were actually right about a take when we said that her being pregnant was a competitive advantage because when a woman's pregnant, they don't menstruate anymore.
So they hang on to all that blood, keep all that blood for themselves. and then actually a study came out there was like a a legitimate article that said

that their red blood cell count increases when they're pregnant, making oxygen travel around like more efficiently in the body. I don't know if that has anything to do with the period or not, but we were technically right about that.
Yeah, we were. We nailed it.
We know combos. We nailed it.
We nailed it. We, we're combo kings.
Anyways, for the first time in NFL. That's a double combo.
Yeah. Two for one.
For the first time in NFL history, a team has had a rookie running back and a rookie tight end each produce 700-plus scrimmage yards in a single season. Running back Jameer Gibbs and tight end Sam Laporta.
Okay. All right.
Sunday. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

Bucs versus Packers, which we were just saying was a very big swing game in the playoff picture.

Bucs at Packers.

Hmm.

Hmm.

Hmm.

I like the Bucs in this game.

I think it's Packers. I like the Bucs in this game.

The Packers are missing A.J. Dillon.

He broke his thumb. Aaron Jones might be back.
He could be back. Yeah.
He could be back. A.J.
Dillon's been pretty good, and he has a pretty much broken thumb. LaFleur won't confirm or deny how broken his thumb is, meaning it's probably broken.
Okay. That's what I took from that.
And Christian Watson, is he going to play? I don't know. So here's my case for the Packers.
The Packers the the bucks defense is pretty banged up they've had a ton of injuries i think some guys are coming back but they've had a ton of injuries and uh i think that there's something that lafleur can do in the middle of the field because they've had a bunch of uh linebacker injuries i also think that the the weakness of the green bay defense is the run defense and the Bucs aren't the best running game.

And then here's the big one for me.

I went back and I looked and I was like,

let me just look at what the Bucs have been doing this season.

Because they started out hot and then they've cooled off.

So they have three wins outside of the NFC South.

Three wins outside of the NFC South.

Week one against the Vikings, who remember started what?

0-3? 0-4? Week two against the Bears. That's September Bears, one of the worst teams ever.
And week nine against the Titans. Not exactly the best teams.
No. So I don't know.
So this is going to tell us what Green Bay is. Right.
It will tell us what Green Bay is. And my guess is that Green Bay is better than the week one Vikings, the week two Bears, and the Titans.
Well, their defense stinks. Yeah.
Tommy DeVito carved them up. I know.
They need to put – if the Packers are going to play well, because they had that two-game stretch – or they were playing well for a while, but the Lions-Chiefs stretch – yeah, I think that's right. Was it Lions-Chiefs back-to-back? They were getting – their defensive line was playing really well.
Like the guys in the middle, Kenny Clark, who I think Packers fans don't like because he's the classic all hype and then pay him a lot of money and then he'll have like a couple really good games and then no-show a bunch of games. But that's going to be the key is like their defensive line has to get after Baker Mayfield because you saw it on Mondayay night tommy devito like they weren't doing anything he had no sacks he had 80 completion percentage and i think he ran for 75 yards right uh he might have been the first quarterback to like ever do that yeah as a rookie who's undrafted so uh the defense i i think the the defense is sus to me very sus um lefleur against bowls is another thing i'm thinking of I think the defense is sus to me, very sus.
LeFleur against Bowles is another thing I'm thinking of. I think LeFleur is a much better coach.
I would agree. Much, much better coach.
But I still- You could really do anything against Bowles. I think I like Tampa Bay in this game.
The Battle of the Bays. Yeah.
This is the classic Mike Sherman, Warren Sapp put a jersey on. Yeah.
When Warren Sapp blindsided Chad Clifton and broke his leg, and then afterwards Mike Sherman was like, that was bullshit. Warren Sapp just stood in the middle of the field like, put a jersey on.
All-time comeback. It's also the Matt LaFleur field goal game.
Yes. You might get some PTSD on that.
Yeah. Let's keep it to football numbers, Matt.
Yeah. Let's go sevens and threes.
Please do. The whole time.
Let's never get to eight. have thought about this about this whole division with the nfc south obviously i think we we still agree that the coach every coach that does not win the division will probably be fired correct next year baker mayfield is he has baker mayfield played good enough this year to earn himself a spot as a starter moving forward yes i think he might be yes i think i think there's not enough talk about Baker Mayfield being comeback player of the year.
Yes. That's not happening.
Yes. Do you think it's DeMar? Well, yeah.
DeMar, remember he got in for that one special teams play? Yeah. But it's got to be...
Tua. Russell Wilson.
Tua. DeMar.
Fingers, yeah. It's harder to have...
I mean, why could... I guess it happened in the playoffs brock purdy yeah i mean that's that's legit yeah it could be but with with a player like russell wilson you're just giving him comeback player of the year because he sucked last wait we're wrong about all this did you guys see aaron rogers practice today yeah that's basically a game yeah i agree no actually we should give it to him've got a juicy little future on him.
And Barstool Sports tweeted it. Aaron Rodgers is not even human.
Okay. I'd actually say missing the entire season because you got injured is the most human thing ever.
Was he injured? Scenes. I mean, he's literally showing that he's human.
The fact that he hasn't been playing. Was he actually injured to begin with? Yeah, that's a good question.
Okay, nerd nugget for Bucks Packers. Via Greg Allman.
Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield. Oh, we're giving out credit now? Well, sometimes.
Sometimes I get them from the notes. Sometimes I get them from actual people.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield has played at Lambeau Field in each of the last two years, also both in December. With the Browns on Christmas Day in 2021, he lost throwing four interceptions.
With the Rams last year, he lost and was sacked five times. Yeah, unlike Lambeau.
That was Greg Allman's Nerd Nugget of the Week. That might be my Nerd Nugget of the Week this week.
Well, it's Greg Allman's because he only has one, right? He covers the box. How do you spell his last name? Is it Greg Allman? A-U-M-A.
Is he an Allman brother? Oh, A-U. Oh, okay.
It's Owlman.

Owlman.

Owlman. That's actually bird nugget of the week.

Does he have a Tootsie Pop in his hand?

No.

Okay.

That was probably dated me really bad.

No, I get it.

Yeah, well, I get-

How many licks that thing take?

I'm only one day older than you.

Yeah, you are fucking old.

I know what Tootsie Pop is.

No, I know the commercial.

The Owl. me really bad no i get it yeah well how many how many licks that i'm only one day older than you yeah you are fucking old i know what tootsie pop is no i know the commercial now one two you know what a good joke would be if you said greg owl man and then we said who yeah i said owl man who that'd be a good joke follow that away for loopy episode loopy episode folks hank you writing this shit down that was a bit that you could use yeah dude hey guys we got any almen out there whoo whoo dude i was rock yeah what if you did an hour of just straight up like anyone here from detroit uh anyone here from sacramento and just did every city in america that's actually not a bad idea.
All right, no one from Sacramento? Cut this. Let's try San Jose.
We'll cut this. Albuquerque in the house.
All right, next game, Bears at Browns. I've dubbed this Gateway Game, which makes me very nervous because I think I'm 0-4 in my life in Gateway Games.
And when I say gateway game, it's not only a gateway game for the Bears and what the rest of the – because if they win this game, they have the Cardinals and the Falcons at home, and you can start thinking, ooh, they're getting spicy. It's also a gateway game for my happiness.
I am very, very excited for this game. If the Bears win this game, I will be a very, very happy boy.
It is a gateway game and again my record in gateway games oh for lifetime yeah uh i don't know i i kind of like the bears this weekend i really do the there's another guy that got banged up on the browns they've lost so this week they lost grant delpit who's their leading tackler and then naranquo who's uh their second in sacks naranquo is great. There was actually a great quote from Jim Schwartz about the injury that he had because he had a pectoral tear, and he played through it on one arm, and Jim Schwartz said, I went back and watched the film and almost threw up.
Oh, wow. He almost puked.
That would have made him football pussy of the week if Jim Schwartz had puked. Make your coach puke? Yeah.
That's actually a badass move, though, to make your coach puke. And then Denzel Ward's been out for a few weeks now, and it feels like he's playing the game of is he back, is he not, every week.
Yeah. I kind of like the Bears this weekend.
I know it sounds crazy to say. The Browns have looked okay the last couple weeks.
Flacco just got that contract. He got paid.
He gets paid for every win. He gets a $75,000 bonus per win.
And then the playoffs, I think it goes to like $100,000, $250,000, $500,000. And then I think it's $2 million.

They should have made that a billion.

Yeah.

Like Jimmy Haslam should have been like you now own what is it?

Pilot?

Flying J.

Flying J.

You own Flying J if the Browns win the Super Bowl.

That would have been a great incentive.

Also a great nickname for Joe Flacco. Yeah.
Flying J. Yeah.
Okay. I'm nervous about this game because I have flashbacks.
We all watched. I think we watched this game together.
We were in. It might not have been everyone here.
We were in Aurora for a deal with Penn where we did a watch party. And remember we did a promo? It was 1985, last time the Bears won the Super Bowl.
I don't know if anyone knows that year. We did a promo that if you bet $1 on the Bears against the Browns, you would get $1,985.
And it was a promo that was like, I remember it was one of the first big promos to do with Penn.

And they're like, so many people have bet this, that if the Bears cover, we might all be out of jobs.

It was the game that Justin Fields, I think, got sacked seven times.

It was his first start.

And they scored six points.

And he looked absolutely miserable.

He was six for 20 for 68 yards.

So, yeah, the Bears had 47 total yards in that game. So yeah, I'm a little nervous about this game.
I have that flying in my head. The last time I saw the Bears on this field, it was the worst game I've ever watched.
You do have full permission though to just be like, Bears are back if they win this. Oh.
If they get to 6 and8. If the Bears win this game, they don't control their destiny.

But the fact that they play the Falcons and Cardinals at home

and then the Packers week 18,

they could be in a similar spot to what the Lions were last year.

I want you to do a visualization technique with me here.

Imagine it's the last week of the season.

Justin Fields beats the Packers.

You get into the playoffs.

Then you get smoked first round of the playoffs i mean by the eagles oh yeah think about that the eagles can't run the bears you get smoked no chance you can run and then max gets the biggest revenge of his entire career on you it wouldn't so if that happens i don't actually think it would be the biggest revenge because one the eagles would still have to win three more games to win the super bowl and two if that happens i will be playing with so much house money at that point that max will be in a spot where like if he loses his life is over it'll be terrified it's not a win yeah there's no win for me and And if he wins, it's like, well, dude, it was the Bears.

They were fucking four and eight a month ago.

So I will sign up for that.

I would not sign up for that. That would be 100% pressure on Max, like maybe 1% pressure on me.

There would be zero.

Yeah, zero.

It's house money.

If they ran the table.

You would lose that game and you would be like, all right, we made it to the playoffs.

And we beat the Packers.

And if you fucking beat me, that would actually be a moment where I wouldn't come for i wouldn't come into work yeah but if you do you wouldn't be able to but yeah also right i would not be able to aftermath to that game we'd already be at work if you made the playoffs if you lose in the playoffs you probably keep justin fields next year i still think it's on the table that i listen we had a we had a debate yesterday on yesterday on the old xvideos.com. The financial still makes sense to start with a rookie and build a defense and everything.
What about this? What about keeping Justin Fields around next year as a backup? I don't think that makes much sense. You don't think so? He's still cheap? No, I don't think so.
Because I think you have to decide on his fifth-year options this spring. You would have to decide this year.
So you decline the fifth-year option. And then you keep him as a backup.
You keep him as a backup. And then maybe his value grows in the year where he doesn't play.
Either way, this is a gateway game. I'm very nervous.
It's the first Bears game since week one against the Packers this year where my hopes are as high as they could be and the potential for disaster are as even higher yeah I'd be concerned about Flacco getting beaten up by the Bears defense well well we'll see I don't want to hurt him no he you can't hurt Flacco sure you can't hurt him uh nerd nugget the Bears are a juggernaut on the ground when it comes to big runs Chicago's 57 rusheses of 10-plus yards this season, which leads the NFL.

Oh, all right.

I also think there's going to be a big DJ Moore

and Justin Fields with his legs.

Man coverage.

Browns are heavy man coverage.

DJ Moore's a beast man coverage.

So if you're looking for something, that's my thoughts.

Okay, next game.

A game that no one should bet, but it's happening

because no one knows what's going to happen with all these injuries.

Texans to Titans.

Is C.J. Stroud going to play?

Probably not.

I mean, we should have learned from our mistake with the Texans last time as a group.

My guess is that he's not going to play because he's in the protocol.

He did not practice today.

So it could be Case Keenum.

Yeah.

It's Davis Mills or Case Keenum. Can't believe Case Keen keenum still around yep uh nico collins probably out i would assume i i think so i'm scared now officially out yes are you sure yes okay mechie playing um this is one of those games where i would love love love to take uh the texans because you have the titans coming off a big monday night win the the texans coming off a horrific game against the jets it's a clear like hey just swap them but without cj stroud and the titans are wearing the oilers uniform that's the thing is they're wearing the throwbacks we said at the start of the year the winner of this game should get to wear the houston oilers no no no no uh tay one actually tweeted that oh he did yeah yes he tweeted that before me yesterday yes damn did he really it's a good take good take taylor yeah he did it was that on the bus uh no he tweeted it okay yeah he tweeted it it's a good take i mean sometimes you got to take your hat off and he also though i felt bad for him because uh titans fans like went like jumped down his throat because they're like, fuck that.
We know that they're not actually going to play for a jersey. We're just speaking in hypotheticals.
So I back up Taylor in that respect. We're speaking as fans, and we understand what happened with the franchise moving, and the franchise that moves gets to keep all the intellectual property, and the Texans spring up as an expansion team.
I'm just saying there nothing in tennessee about oil no that's houston those and also you had so many iconic players that played in those uniforms in houston it feels like it should be houston the texans should just like fight fire with fire and when they come to tennessee and they wear these oil uniforms they should just wear like a guitar on their helmet taylor swift yeah Yeah, bluegrass. We're the Houston bluegrass.

Yeah, the country boys from Texas.

Okay, Nerd Nugget.

Titans running back Derek Henry

has scored two touchdowns

in each of the last three games

and can set the franchise record

by recording his fourth consecutive game

with at least two rushing touchdowns.

He'd become the eighth NFL player

since the 1970 merger to accomplish that.

Wow, Tractor Cito season.

Tractor Cito season.

All right, next up, Jets at Dolph up jets at dolphins dolphins offensive line's a mess could this be a get right game for the dolphins i don't think so their offensive line is banged up i think they're down three starters right yeah and the jets or maybe the jets defense is good very good and i think they might be looking at this game so if you're the jets and you've had a bad season you've lost a lot of really shitty games where your offense could do shit we've talked about how the defense at some point has to be like i'm tired of this shit i'm sick of this shit i'm tired of this shit yep uh when you play against a good team that's got all the accolades and a team that people are talking about as being possibly super bowl contenders i feel like that's a good natural shot in the arm for the Jets' defense to go out there and have something to prove. Also, I think the Jets' defense got a little bounce back in their step last week when Zach Wilson showed to be competent.
Yeah, he's really good now. You get at least, maybe the play is actually Jets' first half because they're going off of what Zach Wilson looked like in the second half last week, so they're like, oh, he's going to be good.
It might take a half for them to be like, no, he's still Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson again.
Yeah. It might be the play.
I like the Dolphins in this situation. I feel like Zach Wilson coming back to earth.
That's a safe bet. Yeah.
Historically a very safe bet. Memes.
Jets win this. Rogers? If Jets win this, we're all the way back.
I've created a path to the playoff for the jets okay go on the worst part about me asking memes this is that i'm laughing at them but it's no different than when i talk about the bears we're both five and eight yeah but the nfc is more what max every team in the afc is seven and six no team in the nfc is is seven and six oh yeah the NFC is 7-6. Oh, yeah.
They're what? All 6-7? Oh, they're all 6-7. Yeah, you're right.
So you have a game close. Yeah.
Memes is, there's a .05% chance that the Jets make the playoffs. And memes is acting like it's 50-50.
Okay, so you're right. Thank you, Max.
So I'm crazy. I'm crazy.
Well, yeah, but there's a lot of six and seven teams. I'm crazy, but I'm not as crazy as memes.

Thank you, Max.

Memes, give us the path.

So if one of the.

Does any team have to get hit, like, have a plane crash?

No.

I literally said that.

I literally said that this afternoon.

All right.

Good, good, good, good.

All right.

So week 15.

That would be great if we went through all the iterations.

And it's like, and the Chiefs have to all get kidnapped.

If the Buffalo Bills flight runs into a building.

Yeah.

So the third playoff spot needs to have seven wins by the end of this week.

So the Jets have to beat the Dolphins.

Okay.

The winner of Steelers Colts will be eight wins.

So hoping the Colts win that one.

Okay.

Lions beat the Broncos.

Okay. Vikings have to beat the Bengals.
Okay. Bears have to beat the Browns.
Wait, are we doing this for every week? Yeah. Well, no, no, no.
Just week 15. Okay.
All right. Let's play what's in front of you.
Yeah. Titans beat the Texans.
Cowboys beat the Bills. All right.
Send me that because I'll put it in as a parlay for you. Okay.
And then teams most likely to fuck up this path are the Bengals and the Jets. I'm looking at that graph that I talked about earlier.
You really kind of buried the lead there. When it comes to the graph on how your playoff percentages increase or decrease based on this game, it looks like with a win, the Jets' playoff percentage increases by, this looks like 1%.
Oh! Yeah, so you're taking baby steps. Actually, memes, you know what you should do? Just say, like, if the Jets make the playoffs and Aaron Rodgers starts, you'll do ayahuasca.
In. Okay.
It is funny. I just looked up the standings, and the Jets are in 14th place.
Out of 16 teams. Best team in the NFC.
It's spoiler season and could be back season. Oh, man.
Okay. Next game up.
Oh, Nerd oh nerd nugget this is the first time in dolphins history that miami's recorded a pick six in three consecutive games if they can do it again on sunday against the jets they joined the 2002 bucks as the only teams the nfl since 2000 have a pick six in four straight games okay all right uh next game chiefs at patriots belich Yeah. Belichick news.
So as a Patriots fan. Is there news or reports? Well, you reported on Wednesday's show.
People heard that. I reported on the report.
Did you get a lot of tweets about that? I don't know. Oh.
Oh, okay. Okay.
As a Patriots fan on this podcast, I'm just going to say that that seems like fake news to me. Seems like a fake news media report from Tom Curran.
You know, the media has been out to get us since 2000, it feels like. Why did you do the report? At the start.
Oh, yeah, we should have PFT do the report. At the start, it was, okay, going back to the beginning, it was like, oh, you're videotaping your opponent's practices illegally.
And then using that material to game plan for them. The fake news media was wrong about that.
Then there was then there was they were right about no they hate us because they ain't us oh hank you're you're doing fan fiction they weren't right about that okay belichick didn't do anything wrong what i i can't believe that you're going against my patriots like this uh so they were wrong about that then after that there was the tuck rule right the tuck Everybody knows that was bullshit. That was a great call by the refs.
After that- It benefited the Patriots. No, I'm just saying, but then people complained about the tuck rule and said, oh, the Patriots are cheating again.
I'm just saying the news media has been against us for so long, like what you're saying right now. Everybody hated the Patriots after that call.
They thought that it was bullshit. It wasn't.
It was a good rule. Was it after that call or after they won the second and won the second and then third super bowl okay well then yeah that that went right along with the whole videotaping practices thing that was hand in hand then there was aaron hernandez killing a bunch of people and people were like oh the patriots are back at organization for that then there was julian edelman getting his drink spiked by something and everyone came at us and said oh the patriots are running a real loose ship around here okay what's going on with that then there was messing with the injury report and like brandon spikes and being like oh you guys are cheating that way and then after that it was oh you're fucking with the in game communications between mike tomlin and his players on the field on the sideline that was also fake that was fake news then there was deflate gate oh tom brady's cheating by deflating all these balls.
Then there was Robert Kraft getting sucked off at the day spa. No.
Jerked off. Allegedly.
Okay. There was mouth contact.
It might have just been a tongue. But then that was a bunch of bullshit, too.
They were just coming at us for that. Then there was the fake lighthouse thing that everybody got upset about.
I don't care. Now.
Wait. Wait.
You forgot one. Then Belichick had that booty call at that girl's house.
Oh, yeah. Belichick shirtless walk of shame, slut shaming our head coach, Bill Belichick.
And then now this is just another brick in the wall and we're brick by brick. We're defending the wall.
This is our Patriots. They hate us because they ain't us.
And this is just a normal report that I would expect from the fake news media. Hank, as a Cowboys fan, what are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, some of those things I thought were facts.
Some of them I agree that they're rumors and speculation and nonsense scuttlebutt. What about the mouth versus hand situation with Kraft? He's probably doing it all.
Okay. Yeah, that's our guy.
That's what Jerry would do. That's our guy.
That's Robert Kraft, Mr. Positions.
That's what Jerry would do. That's just a sign of a great owner.
Yeah Yeah, that's true. Your guy Jerry.
He definitely would. No, Jerry would go anal.
Yeah, for sure. He goes anal.
He wouldn't get the massage. But yeah, the report that came out on Tuesday night was that Patriots expected to move on from Belichick that had been reported or had been discussed after the Germany game.
We all remember that one where Mac Jones threw like the worst interception of all time.

And yeah,

Mr.

Kraft was embarrassed.

Belichick said,

okay,

well then,

then we're done here.

Do you believe it?

No,

as a Patriots fan,

there's no chance.

Zero,

0% chance.

I don't think Belichick would leave.

I think the Patriots might win this game.

Spoiler,

spoiler,

spoil it for the chiefs.

And then,

Oh,

it'd be kind of crazy too,

because then,

well,

remember when the Patriots,

I'm sorry. I think the Patriots might win this game.
Spoiler. Spoiler.
Spoiler for the Chiefs. And then, oh, it'd be kind of crazy, too, because then...
Well, remember when the Patriots beat the Chiefs opening night and they called... No, the Chiefs beat the Patriots.
But the guy was out of... They called him out of bounds when he wasn't.
Oh, I thought you were talking about the time when... Was it Trent Dilfer? Was it like, it's over? Yeah.
That was Goodell. That was Goodell night.
Nikel harry that was monday night game keel harry was recently the i believe that was the night everyone had the good dealt towels oh yeah yeah that was when dave cried and feidelberg was like enjoy your heirlooms or whatever oh yeah's right. BFT knows all that.

Yeah. Yeah.

This is like I've lived and breathed it. It's like

same. They run the same playbook against the Patriots

every year. Oh, here's another story just

to make us look bad. And then guess what we do?

We respond. We win Super Bowls.

I don't think they're going to win

this week. Well, oh, you're a hater.

I agree.

I think the Chiefs are going to win. I think the Chiefs are are gonna get right the nfl needs the chiefs to win oh and so i think that's gonna play a factor as it usually does when these two teams match up uh sometimes the patriots overcome sometimes they have no choice but not to but i think if it's close chiefs are winning this the uh they might lose by 30 i think think the Chiefs are going to win this game because that Patriots-Steelers game,

like Bailey Zappi was incredible for two quarters.

And then they went right back to the Patriots offense, not good.

They just built up a big enough lead.

Right.

But we forget that.

We're like, Bailey Zappi played good last week.

Yeah, right.

So I think this is like everyone in the Chiefs locker rooms like this.

We have to win this game easily because this is time.

It's time.

How sick would it be if Travis Kelsey did the lateral again this week?

That would be sick.

It'd be great.

Get that ball to Canton.

Yeah.

That's a highlight.

Kadarius Toney would probably be offsides again.

Kadarius Toney.

Where's he going to line up?

Is he going to line up in the backfield every game, every day?

Yeah, they should tell him, you're never on the line of scrimmage.

He might line up in Kansas City because they won't bring him on the plane that would be a smart move yes uh so you think the patriots are gonna lose yeah they'll lose close oh so hungry dog hungry dogs for winners oh okay so have you won it a lot yeah historically all right uh revenge game too yeah juju revenge game back to back still waiting for his knee to explode yeah at any second you should get that knee it's a revenge tour yeah yeah it is uh okay nerd nugget i actually have a theory to hank's point i think nerd theory whoa whoa whoa nerd theory okay theory i think even hawking i think if the nfl wanted anything they should want the chiefs not to get the buy because that's one extra game of ratings for the swifties super wild card weekend good point good point well that would explain why they didn't ask al michaels to do that game because when on thursday night football you remember al michaels was against taylor swift he was like, we're going to show her, but we're not going to make her the main story

because she's not the main story.

Football is the main story.

I thought it was because Al Michaels and Taylor Swift can never be in the same building.

Otherwise, they'd fuck.

The attraction is too high.

Yeah.

I don't want to say how.

Yeah.

But they would.

They would.

They would.

But yeah, Al Michaels, there's a theory out there that Al Michaels was asked to step aside

because he wasn't playing ball with them asking to put Taylor Swift on the broadcast.

I'm not aware of that.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, it's theory.

Where'd you go in theory for theory?

It's true.

It's fair.

Theory off.

Chiefs wide receiver Rasheed Rice has six receiving touchdowns this season.

With one more, he can break the tie with four other former Chiefs for most touchdown receptions

in a player's rookie season. Rice has got to be the best receiver last name yeah ever yeah yeah did they did that nerd nugget come directly from the chief's wide receiver locker room like it was from chief's game nuts yeah i mean their wide receivers stink they're pretty bad well here's the one one whose wide receivers are worse in this game the the Chiefs or the Patriots? Both pretty bad.

Is Devontae Parker on the Patriots still?

Is he playing?

Yeah.

I think he caught some balls.

I forgot about him.

He's probably the best receiver on the field, right?

He has a few former Dolphins.

They have Gasicki, Devontae.

Yeah, Henry.

Okay.

He's a tight end.

Next game, Giants and Saints.

Does he catch the ball? You don't know anything about our roster. Giants and Saints.
I'm in on Tommy DeVito on this game. You have no choice but to root for Tommy DeVito.
I was thinking about it too, PFT. I was looking back because I know that Panther Saints game was hard for you with every touchdown bet.
That was a 14-6 game. The Panthers outgained the Saints by 100 yards.
That's what was so frustrating because they had every chance to score a touchdown and they just wouldn't. Right.
So then you look at the box score and you're like, oh, they beat the Panthers 28-6. They killed them.
Saints are right. No, no, no.
The Saints are not right. There's nothing right about the Saints right now and you're going to lay six points? Yeah.
Tommy DeVito! They're broken. They're a broken franchise.
Yeah. So, yeah, you have to.
You can't root against the Tommy DeVito moment that's happening right now. If you're a Saints fan, and I honestly think that a lot of Saints fans would rather them not win these games because it delays an inevitable explosion of the team.
But if you're anybody but besides a Saints fan, you have no excuse to be rooting for the Saints this weekend. Extend the Tommy DeVito story.
It's fun. Let us have this fun little blip.
The only people who can root against Tommy DeVito are Saints fans. And then if you are late to the Tommy DeVito party, because like I was talking to Dave, he had the Packers on Monday Night Football and he was like, I want to take the Giants here, but I'm late to the party because you can't switch you.
If the train starts going, if the narrative train starts going and you missed the first two stops, you jump on that, that train crashes off the bridge. Yeah, this would be a bad game to introduce somebody to Tommy DeVito.
Right. You don't want to do that.
There's a great chance that it does derail and things go haywire. But keep enjoying it.
Let us enjoy our Tommy DeVito moment. I want this to extend.
If you can't handle your Tommy DeVito at, what was it, like 17 yards? Or no, it was like minus 7 yards. Negative 9 yards.
Yeah. And you don't deserve him on this three-game winning streak.

No.

And he might be good.

He might be good.

You know where he's going next week?

What?

He's got a permit.

To what?

Eagle hunting.

Oh, shit.

Yeah.

Uh-oh.

Do we know any Italian Eagles fans that would be really, really upset with that?

Be torn.

You should do a split jersey next week.

No shot. Eagles and the Italian flag.
I am not torn in the slightest. Yeah, Sirianni.
Sirianni rocks an Italian flag every day. And Dom.
We'll get to Dom in a minute. Yeah, I'm all Giants here.
Probably a mistake, but once you're on the train, you don't get off. Just watching I'm a prisoner of the moment, so on one hand, I'm rooting for Tommy DeVito.
On the other, I'm full in on the Saints offensive linemen don't like Derek Carr. Yes, I agree with that.
And we will talk more about that with Jeff Saturday because he had some good insight. We asked him a specific question about that.
Okay, last early games, Falcons and Panthers. Oh, boy.
Oh, boy, PFT. I don't know how you can bet Desmond Ritter as a favorite on the road, but I also don't know how you can bet the Panthers.
A couple things, a couple little facts from this game. One, that really cool camera that they have at the Mercedes-Benz Dome where they've tracked the ball, they released a highlight of Desmond Ritter throwing a pass to Drake London.
It was like the worst pass ever. So our colleague Big T had a very good observation from that.
Yeah. Even Desmond Ritter's highlight throws look like they're being intercepted by his own wide receiver.
That was exactly what happened. He threw it to a cornerback and Drake London dove in front of him at the last second to catch it.
Made a great play on the ball. It was crazy.
It is a great camera though. It is a great camera.
Other fact about this game. If you would like to go this game Use the GameTime app But guess what Ticket get in price $7 $0.45 What That's like 1950 You get a free shoe shine with that $0.45 That's.
That's not real. Tepper's got to be pissed off about that.
45 cents. If I was David Tepper, I would buy every ticket for this game just so you didn't have the embarrassment of the 45 cents.
Oh, man. That's tough.
That's tough. Chirp, chirp, chirp.
Bird nugget of the week. Let's go.
Love it. For the Falcons.
No, you don't. For the Falcons.
Bird fact. Did you know that you can tell which way the wind is blowing by how birds are standing? Well, that makes sense, right? Birds always stand facing into the wind.
Oh. They like the adversity.
Yeah. They don't want to get blown away, too.
Yeah. If the wind kind of gusts.
Then they just take off and fly away. Yeah, they're just going.
They're a sudden flying. Birds, you can tell if you're ever stranded in nature and you see a bird facing east, then you can be like, actually, that wouldn't really work.
You just know which way the wind's blowing. Yeah, because a bird...
If you're on a golf course and there's a bunch of asshole Canadian geese next to you... Yeah, those aren't birds.
Which way is this blowing the golf ball in this shot? You're like, well, the birds are facing that way. That's where the wind's coming from.
That would make sense, though, because if they had their ass to the wind, it'd be like a car in neutral. Yeah.
You could just roll away at any moment. Yeah.
It's like dogs when they're in a car. Dogs will always put their face in the wind, too.
They won't look backwards. Yeah.
Birds like the adversity. That's a fact.
Yeah. I like betting Desmond Ritter minus three on the road is a very scary proposition, but I don't know how you could bet the Panthers at this point.
And I've tried. I've tried to bet the Panthers a few times the last few weeks.
I think I might double down on my start Andy Dalton take for the Panthers. I don't like it.
Because I've talked to some Panthers fans. They don't hate the idea.
A lot of them actually like the idea because I think that you're doing more harm than good to brice they want they don't want to give up the first pick yeah we're gonna win a couple games and not give up the first pick so i like brice young you got to let the kid learn yeah i just i think if you're a panthers fan you want you want to save everything that brice young's doing you want the real coaches to come in you don't want him to learn anything else that he's going to have to unlearn over this offseason. You don't want his confidence to get killed any more than it already is.
You don't want him to get hurt, God forbid. So just put Andy Dalton in.
Yeah. Yeah.
No. I need Bryce Young to keep losing.
I like that he's losing. Okay.
Take a quick break. Oh, Bird Nugget.
Yeah, I got to reverse. No, Nerd Nugget.
I'm going to reverse course quickly and let you know that Giants have 14 takeaways in the last five weeks, including a week 13 bye. Wait.
Oh, I missed the last one. Yeah.
I didn't want to interrupt. Okay.
Thank you, Jake. Very cool.
Their 14 takeaways in the last four games are the highest in a four-game span since 2012. So Giants defense.
That's actually good. Yeah.
All right. I like that.
That's a good one. The Panthers are wearing black helmets for the first time this season oh i didn't know that yeah that changes my calculus well the last time they wore them it was at home against the falcons as well they won 25 to 15 black helmet game yeah okay i think i think i might take the panthers pulling out all the stops they can't their offense can't be as bad as it was last week, right? That's like impossible.
No, it's been really bad for a long time. Oh, it was so bad.
Yeah, it's been really bad for a long time. All right, before we get to the afternoon games and the Sunday night game.
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Okay.

Afternoon games.

49ers at Cardinals. The sneak them in.
405-305 start. I'm going to do something dangerous, PFT.
I think I'm going to bet on the Cardinals. Take the birds.
I think this game is going to be over by the time the real afternoon games start. That's what I think.
The late starts. Okay.
The only reason I'm going to take the Cardinals is they're coming off a bye. And I know that look-aheads don't really exist in the NFL.
But if they did, the Niners are looking ahead to a huge game against the Ravens Monday Night Football that will decide both conferences won seeds most likely. Yeah, I don't know if the Niners can look ahead though because they had those three losses in a row.
I know. They're fighting for the one seed right now.
They're going to win. I'm saying could this be that weird game? You know, the fact that it starts at 3-0-5, 4-0-5, that weird game that you don't really pay attention to and you're like, oh, wow, the 49ers are only up three in the fourth quarter? Just saying, maybe.
The Cardinals defense is tough. I said I was going to do something dumb.
Yeah, it might be dumb, but I guess in conferences you don't know what's going to happen between the two teams. They know each other.
Yeah, they know each other a lot. Really well.
I still like the Niners. I think the Niners are on.
They've got a mission. Okay.
Yeah. Okay.
All right. Are you getting high? This is a C4.
Oh, okay. Love that.
Yeah, you are. You're getting high on new tropics.
Life.

Okay, Jake, Nerd Nugget.

Since 2019, 53% of the 49ers receiving yards have come after the catch.

This yak percentage ranks first in the NFL during that span.

That's the Debo stat.

Ooh, Debo stat.

That's your song, right? Yes.

That was good.

Yeah.

We'll have to get a new song now.

It's so hot.

It's hot in here? It is. Yeah, it is.
It's very hot. Okay.
Next game. Commanders at Rams.
I have a question for PFT that will decide who I'm going to bet on here. Okay.
PFT, we've known each other for a long time. We're good friends.
We have a great working relationship. Did you dye your mustache? Yes.
Okay. All right.
Sorry. All right.
I just wanted the honesty. Hank turned to me last night.
He's like, I think PFT dyed his mustache again. I got to make this bad boy pop.
Got to make it pop. I'm happy you're honest.
Okay. We were thinking about it.
We didn't want to break. I was watching.
So we were doing the Surviving Barstool finale show last night and i was stationed uh behind pft diagonally and i wasn't really involved in any of the conversation so i was just looking around and i just got fixated on your mustache and i looked it up i was i'm happy you admitted it because i pulled up the receipts from a picture of you last night and then the youtube episode from from monday's show well let's not act like this is the first time you've dyed a mustache. No, I know.
It clicked. It clicked.
I was looking at his mustache. I was like, oh, he's done this before.
I'm just going for a different look right now. Listen, it's about to be the holidays.
Going to see family over the holidays. I can't go back looking like a mix between Joe Dirt and Mario.
So it's just like right now, Mario had to...

I look like Tom Selleck. A mix between Tom Selleck

and Joe Dirt.

Many people are saying the mustache

looks great. I would agree with them.

No one's talking about the sideburns.

I need to...

The sideburns are bad.

Wait, wait, wait.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. We were just saying...

No, no, bad. The sideburns are packed.

Hang on, Soul Patch.

All right?

So-

I lost a bet.

You're doing this by choice.

Yeah, yeah.

So here's my thing, right?

The sides of the mustache kind of grow in blonde sometimes.

So if I grow the whole operation out, it looks like I'm doing a little H-Man action with my

facial hair.

This looks like a Confederate Revolutionary War soldier. You're going to write a letter to Andrew Luck? Many great people on both sides.
Yeah, listen. Okay, the mustache might not be the best look in the world, but just something I'm trying out.
I think it looks fine. It was just Hank and I was weighing on Hank and I because we were like, did he die this mustache again? Oh, yeah.
I also just said Confederate Revolutionary War. I want to address that.
Civil War. A million percent died.
A hundred million percent died. We're not expecting any real facts.
Yeah. Oh, Max messed up a history fact.
The credibility of the entire podcast. Can't listen anymore.
Show you to stand for something. For this game, I think the Rams are going to win.
Yeah, they're going to win. I think there's going to be a lot of points scored, which is nice the defense on on the commander's side can't really do anything i'm just looking for good stuff out of sam howell yeah continue to be the guy you're in the good stuff time where it's like just give me some stuff from the quarterback yeah give me some good stuff no injuries from sam howell i'm full in on tanking right now i'm sure once the game starts i want the commanders to win but i do not want them to win right now i've got pre-nut clarity and it

would be bad if they won this football game makes sense yeah you you you want pre-nut delusion that i want them to lose this this you don't get clarity pre-nut i do i think my clearest right before i'm about to have sex the best delusion no it's like literally no i'm focused you get tunnel get tunnel vision on the coochie. Yeah.
Delusion. Yeah, a perfect scenario for you is that Sam Howell looks really good and the 49ers...
Or sorry, the commanders stay like 10-point deficit the whole time. Yeah, that'd be great.
It's like if you ever take the lead in the second half, then you're going to be like, ah, we're winning. It would be nice if they threw the ball to Terry McLaurin once.

Yeah, not doing just cardio.

After the last game where he's like,

I'm basically just doing cardio out there, not catching any balls.

But I've reached the point with this team where we lost Chase Young,

lost Montez Sweat.

The way that Josh Harris operates is it's probably going to be a clean rebuild

where you just get everyone out and bring in entirely new,

turn the page entirely.

It might,

it might be time to say bye to Jonathan Allen.

I know he's sick of this shit.

I know he's fucking tired of this shit.

He's fucking tired of this motherfucking shit.

That famous quote.

He's a great player.

He's a captain.

Love him.

Wish him nothing but,

but the best might be time to just be like, okay, good players like jonathan allen terry mclaurin we might just be starting over entirely next year yeah just get everybody that's had a whiff anyone that's been in a room with dan snyder should not be on this team moving forward yes that's kind of the position that i'm in right now because he will get his stink on you somehow yeah burn it all it all down. Burn it all down.
Restart next year. Turn the page.
New coach. Maybe my Patriots could send Belichick down there.
I don't know what that would look like. It would be funny if the commanders petitioned the league to be like, can you guys, we're going to change our name again.
Can you just make us an expansion franchise? Yeah. Fuck yeah.
I'll take that. I would even, no, I don't want to say that.
I mean, in the heat of the moment, if we didn't have a season next year and then we came back entirely new, that would be good for the future of the organization.

Right.

But I do obviously want to see the commanders play football on Sundays and Josh Harris might turn around.

Yeah, this is the team that he's focused on more than any other team that he owns.

That's a fact.

That's a fact.

Okay.

Last afternoon game.

The best game Cowboys at Bills. Henry, your Cowboys.
The crown jewel. The crown jewel.
Can I be honest? Yes. I kind of want the Bills to win this game.
Why? I like their story. I think they have a long road ahead of them.
Dolphins fans are annoyingly cocky, and Bills fans I feel more of a connection to. Obviously, we like Josh.
We were kind of rivals, but we never really overlapped too much in the rivalry era. Like, the Patriots were really good, the Bills were bad, then the Bills got good when the Patriots were bad.
And I like Bills Mafia. Dolphins fans are insufferable.
Like, they're super annoying, they're super cocky, haven't won shit and seeing is that just because you work around nicky smokes and frank the tank no i mean they've always like nicky smokes is definitely a good representation of it but and i like frank but he's he's just you know doom and gloom seeing him melt down is very funny like watching that game unfold and knowing he's going to have these clips of him freaking out as good seeing them blow a season and somehow lose the AFC East would be funny. Yes.
Yes.

Hank. watching that game unfold and knowing he's going to have these clips of him freaking out as good, seeing them blow a season and somehow lose the AFC East would be funny.
Hank, you'd be smiling. I'd be smiling.
Hank Lockwood would be smiling. His head would be spinning.
The Bills' story is, yeah, I mean, they've been through going even back to last season. It feels like everything that could go wrong for the Bills has gone wrong.
For them to maybe run the table josh allen would maybe win mvp i mean if he ran the table you don't want to won the afc east he would have a chance you don't want to play the bills in the playoffs yeah i'm hoping they get to the playoffs um the cowboys put uh bills players on the on like the tackling dummies this week.

So I don't know what bowl game they're playing.

It is a Cheez-It Bowl or something, but that's a weird move.

It's on the robotic ones that move around?

Yeah.

I don't know if it was the robotic ones, but it was weird.

That's a strange move to do.

That's a really strange move to do for an NFL team.

That's McCarthy just making it look like he's busy during the week.

I also, the Cowboys road wins this year.

Hank, you know this.

Actually, why don't you tell us, Hank?

Eagles.

Nope.

Remember when Dak stepped out?

Commanders.

Nope.

Giants.

Yes.

Wow.

Diehard Cowboys.

All right, I shouldn't put you on the spot.

The Cowboys road wins this year.

You even beat the Giants on the road?

No, you said yes.

Manders?

No, yes.

Remember you guys played them on Thanksgiving?

Chargers, Giants, Panthers.

Those teams stink.

Yeah.

Those are the three road wins.

We thought their win over the Chargers meant something.

Yeah.

They are a completely different team away from home. I like the Bills.
What's the line in this game? One and a half. Yeah.
I like the Bills. It's a good test if we lose this game.
It's like a good wake-up call before the playoff run. I also think the Bills, like, they're kind of, remember when we had Orlovsky on? He's like, put Josh Allen under center.
They're doing that more now. Yeah.
James Cook is electric. I'm worried about the Bills' defense in this game, but I think it's going to be kind of a shootout, so I like the Bills.
The line moved to two now. Oh, that's probably because we talked about the tackling dummies.
Right now, yeah. Yeah, they're listening.
They're listening. Okay, Nerd Nugget.
First up, Rams running back Kyron Williams needs 10 more scrimmage yards to hit 1,000 on the season.

He'd be the first Rams running back since Todd Gurley in 2019 to reach that mark.

He's good.

Next up, Nerd Nugget of the Week, Sack Attack.

Oh.

The Bills have a laugh.

I made up that name.

It wasn't in the notes.

Yeah, man.

Thanks, Jake.

For a second, I thought that was not your creation.

If you're listening to the podcast and not the YouTube, you'd be like, who just walked

into the room and punched Big Cat in the stomach?

Yeah.

Maybe now I know why you accidentally skipped two nerd nuggets.

No, that wasn't why.

The problem in reality is that we are now no-bye-ville.

So there's 16 or 14 games. That's fair.
It's a shitload of games. Yeah.
Sack attack. The Bills have allowed the least amount of sacks in the NFL with 18, tied with the Chiefs, and are tied for third in the league in sacks themselves with 42.
Yeah. I mean, this is the Cowboys, not only the road thing that I was talking about, how they're very different on the road, the Cowboys defense, while very good,

has also beaten up and eaten up really bad offensive lines.

Yeah, they're very, very good against bad teams.

What was that?

Did I have that stat?

It was like they've given up like two,

it was last week, 220 points,

and 40 of them were against like the Giants, Jets,

Giants twice, Jets, Patriots,

all these terrible teams.

But they did beat the Eagles pretty convincingly.

Yeah, they did.

No, they looked awesome.

But that –

Are the Eagles good?

Was that the Cowboys Super Bowl?

Are the Eagles good?

We don't know.

The Eagles good?

Max, do you want to give us any thoughts about the Monday night game?

Or no, sorry, let's do Sunday night,

and then you give us some thoughts about the Monday night game,

even though we don't usually do it.

Ravens and Jaguars finishing us off loopy uh i think i like the ravens i don't fucking know this is a tough game it's it's weird with a prime time so the jaguars are going to have a lot to play for they have the national stage they're going to have a full house people are pumped this is almost a must win for the jaguars yes if they want to keep thinking that they're going to be like a factor in the playoffs i think i like the jaguars three three and a half at home really yeah okay three and a half at all it's probably a field goal game either way yeah yeah i don't know because like the ravens played an awesome game last week against the rams but they also very easily could have lost that easily could have lost and if the ravens if they had happened to lose that game last week if or tie even if they don't return that punt for a touchdown yep they get stuck around midfield kick it back tie is in the realm of possibility yep at that point if they had tied that game we wouldn't be thinking about the ravens going to this game as being like world beaters that's true So I like the Jaguars at home. Okay.

Mac or Nerd Nugget.

Raven. Ravens going into this game as being like world beaters.
That's true. No.
So I like the Jaguars at home. Okay.
Mac or nerd nugget Ravens quarterback, Lamar Jackson, the only quarterback in NFL history to produce six seasons of 600 plus rushing yards. He has 644 right now.
No other quarterback has more than four such seasons. Yeah.
Really, really fast. Max thoughts real quick.
I think, I think we can talk about it Sunday. Okay.
Let's do it Sunday. Well, no, just give me a thought.
Sounds like he's not ready for me. Give me one thought.
I am. I have thoughts, but this is a little teaser in the biz, you know? Give me one thought.
You want to talk about it on Sunday? Yeah. That's your thought.
His thought is he wants to talk about it. I don't like how Max jumped down my throat about the mustache thing.
That seemed personal. You know, he went.
Hank and I. I have no.
I think the mustache. No, we don't have to replay it.
You know what you're going to say. It's the sideburns.
I don't like the sideburns. I've had sideburns for 10 years.
Hank and I came in very soft on that. Yeah, I was ready to talk about it on the came in with a camera like what the fuck is on your face yeah and then Max just jumped over the top and was like yeah I think I look classy I think that it needed that though I think what setting would it be considered classy like Myrtle Beach super classy yeah I look I look well Jack if you're at the slot machine like yeah classy as fuck life is a slot machine for me every day i wake up and i hit the slot machine and i've been on a fucking heater if you're in a bar in like deston florida you are classy yeah i'll take that well we also we have a big interview coming up and i was just looking at you i was like what is this guy thinking when he's looking at your face right now what are you talking man max he's doubling down that's mean doubling down.
That's mean, Max. I think I look good.
You know what? Haters everywhere. Haters everywhere.
All around. You're supposed to be hair brothers.
I think I look good. I think I look like the perfect example of an American male.
Do you dye the under the chin beard? No, I don't dye that. Match the color.
I think it would look good without the sideburns, and I truly mean that. Lay the fuck off my sideburns.
Killing your sideburns, dude. But I think the rest of it would look good.
Yo, get off my boy's sideburns. I think the rest of it would look good.
I do not realize I've had sideburns for the entire time. We'll fuck you up.
No, but it's like the way that you shaved it. It's very purposeless.
Yeah, I was. I did line it up.
The line up on the sideburns. I lined up.
You know what I did last night when I was shaving? I was trying to have it so that the sideburns connected all the way to the mustache.

Right?

That'd be a good look.

Literally, like, exactly like the Civil War.

Like the Civil War.

Yeah.

And I accidentally nicked part of this side of it and disconnected it. So I'm like, fuck, now I just got to make it pointy on the sideburns.

Keep the mustache as is.

But yeah, it would have looked so much cooler if the sideburns connected yeah it was just like very very zen yeah uh okay let's do our picks you're a piece of shit man he's just if you just keep asking questions you keep going harder so you know lay your sword down uh picks what who's picking first and what are the standings uh memes who's picking first i think j I think Jake. Okay, I'm picking first.
So in the warm-up category, the opening act, I have 17.5. Memes has 15.
Max has 15. Head-to-head, heading into it.
And right now, main event, one hour. Big Cat, 19.5.
PFT, 18. Hank, 12.5.
Hank is 5.5 back with 8 points remaining. So if my math is correct, if PFT 18, Hank 12 and a half.
Hank is five and a half back with eight points remaining. So if my

math is correct, if PFT outgains Hank this week, I believe it would be over because then you'd be six and a half up with six to play. Okay.
Okay. Who's picking first? I'm going to take the Dolphins minus nine and a half against the Jets.

Okay.

I am going to take the Bears.

Ooh.

Okay.

Plus three against the Jets. Okay.

I am going to take the Bears.

Ooh. Okay.

Plus three against the Brains.

Okay.

Memes.

Ravens, Jaguars over 42 and a half.

Ooh.

Sunday night.

Hank.

Quick announcement here.

What?

What's it called?

Announcement.

I saw that. Whoa.
I saw that.

Whoa, I like that.

Oh, there you go.

You got to get rid of that, Hank.

We're doing at Barstow River North in Chicago on Wednesday, a talent show.

We're going to have a bunch of people, five minutes, some comedians, some food people,

some magicians, whatever you want to do.

We'll put out the link for the submission form.

Send it in today or tomorrow.

We're going to pick them on Saturday.

There's a chance someone might be going up there for five minutes. Test it out.
Oh, doing a little stand-up. Nice.
So show up. Come Wednesday night at 7, Barcelona River North.
Love it. Submit if you want talent.
You win $500 and a guest spot in the Yak. Yeah.
My pick, I think it's going to be a nuclear missile whale. Oh.
First of the year. Oh.
Mega lock. Oh.
Mega bomb. Oh, no.
It's going to lose. That's tough.
Rams. It's going to lose.
Rams. Okay, cool.
Okay. Minus six and a half against the Commanders.
It's going to lose now. It's going to lose now.
That was bad. You want to take the Chargers.
No, I was thinking LA. Okay.
My, my first pick, I'm going to take the Cowboys-Bills over 50 and a half.

Okay.

Yeah.

I like that.

Points, points, points. That's a fun game towards sports.

Points.

I'm going to take Commander's Rams over 50 and a half.

Love it.

Big over.

Commander's defense stinks.

Sam Howell's going to put up some points, I hope. Love it.
And? And I'm going to take... I'm going to do something crazy.
Yeah? My New England Patriots. Plus seven and a half.
Oh. Lighthouse.
Could be a back door. Lighthouse.
Could be a back door. Okay.
I'm going to go Tommy DeVito, plus six. Giants, plus six in the dome, which is not a real dome anymore.
Because I crunched so many numbers for this game, I looked at it deeply in depth. I'm going to go with the Commander's Rams under.
Oh. I like this.
Oh, you see what you're doing? I wasn't familiar with your game. That could be the clincher.
It could be, yeah. Or it could tighten the gap.
Wow. What about that, Hank? That could be the clincher.
Yeah, I'm committed to it, but I might as well fight. I might as well fight.
I want to fight head on. John Snow, Battle of the Bastards.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Memes.
Eagles minus three. Okay.
Let's go, Memes. Three and a half, I see.
I see three. I see three.
Three it is. Let's go, Memes.
I'm going to go Saints, Giants over. Ooh.
Okay. What are we looking at? I think I had 39 and a half.
That's Max's sneaky way of letting us know he loves his paisan.

That's not true.

That's not true.

Yeah, it is.

Yeah, it is.

All right, Jake, finish this off.

I'm going to go with Bucks Packers over 42 and a half.

Okay.

Can I change my pick?

Nope.

Nope.

Okay.

Also, pancake update.

Hank, 47.

Jake, 42.

Shout out my team.

11 pancakes.

Whoa.

Whoa.

What?

we're going to Nope. Nope.
Also, pancake update. Hank, 47.
Jake, 42. Shout out my team.
11 pancakes. Whoa.
Whoa. What? We're doing personal shout outs on teams? And you're the one doing the stat sheet.
Oh, that's interesting. This was a crazy week from Jake.
That's interesting. As I've said.
Very interesting. Very interesting.
By far the biggest week of the year. Ooh.
No, wrong. I gave you access to the sheet.
And if you looked at that, you would see that. No, no, no.
You know we don't do sheets. You know we don't click links.
You know we don't do sheets. Well, I gave you guys public access to all of this.
No, you know we don't do sheets. I've been keeping track, Jake.
Yeah. Okay.
So personal shout out. Just put it in the record books.
The referee of this is literally shouting out his own team. So wait, are you in first place, Jake?

No.

So you're giving a shout out for being in second place.

Shout out my team for a big week.

What are you, Max?

Oh, nice.

The Heat lost.

The Panthers lost. Don't say the sideburns.

I didn't say that.

Okay.

You guys are more than welcome to double check my work.

I will not.

I know.

Hank 47, Jake 42, Max 34, PFT 32, Big Cat Hank, 47. Jake, 42.

Max, 34.

PFT, 32.

Big Cat, 30.

Memes, 27.

Whew.

Tightrook. So memes are looking at 24 pancakes right now in 24 hours.

Well, it's 24 hours or 24 pancakes.

Combo.

I'm looking at 18.

That's like an hour for you.

You fuck.

Dude, the announcements today have been on fire this has been a mean episode yeah it's a loopy yeah we're all low on sleep okay uh let's uh do some fantasy fuck boys then jeff saturday what's up?

It's Head Announcement of Vito.

Hey.

My stardom, Draymond Green.

Oh, he was my sit-up.

Well, he's my fucking stardom, so you can't use him.

People might think you want to sit him, but you want to stardom.

You want to pick him up.

He's going to be back real soon. I don't know how you get suspended indefinitely.
What the fuck does that even mean? Indefinitely. He's out.
He's just doing that shit, so he has more stuff to talk about on his podcast. My sit him, Josh Giddey.
Oh. He's not playing too well.
If you have him on your fantasy team, you might want to sit him out. Oh.
Or handcuff him. He's a little distracted.
And my sleeper is Dreidels. Oh, okay.
That time of year. Get the Dreidels out.
Happy Annika. Hey.
Hey. Hey.
Hey. Dreidel, Dreidel, Dreidel.
I made it out of clay. Hey.
Hey. Hey.
I want it starting ready. Dreidels, I'll play.
Yeah. Hey.
What's up? Hey, what's up, B? It's Sean Stilato right here coming at you, talking to you about my stardom sitting sleeper. I'm starting Al Michaels because he got fired because of Taylor Swift.
Respect to Al. Respect to the game.
Swifties off a cliff with you. I'm also sitting Draymond Green this week.
It's just been indefinitely. Indefinitely is a long time.
Did you not fucking hear me when I said to to start him? I like that one. I didn't care about this.
It's a very, very long time to be suspended. What did he even do? He just attacked a Turkish guy.
That's almost like an Italian tradition, huh? My sleeper, I'm sleeping Jerry Judy and Juju Smith-Schuster. Let's put together a little Hanukkah parlay with Juju and Judy.
How about that? I like it. All my Jewish friends out there.
Jerry Judy up your booty. Mazel mazel.
What's up guys? It's Guido DeVito. Hey Guido DeVito.
My stardom is Dickie V for no other reason than I miss that Paisan. I miss that fucking guy.
Cancer freak. Good to see you to see he's coming back soon my sit-um draymond green oh good sit-um yeah why what happened with draymond he's suspended indefinitely indefinitely yeah that's all that's also what draymond would say hey i'm gonna go fight a turkish guy you want to come in car are we taking? You know why he got suspended indefinitely?

Why?

He spoiled surviving barstool on his early show every morning.

Disgusting.

Yeah, indefinitely.

My sleeper is going to be Tommy DeVito.

This is it.

This is going to be.

He might be president someday.

That's a good sleeper.

I can see it.

MVP.

An Italian in the office. MVP.
Most valuable paisan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right. You don't like that, Max? I mean, you weren't even doing that.
You were just like groping the air. That's also an Italian hand signal.
No, no. Not all Italians are perverts.
No, just Italian. Yeah.
But all perverts are perverts are italian okay let's get to our great interview with jeff saturday as we progress through the season every fan knows that big wins are hard to come by and tough losses are even harder to accept but you know what isn't hard to accept discover believe it or not discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. You heard that right, 99%.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is a Super Bowl champion.
He is a former head coach. He is someone you can see every single week on ESPN talking ball.
It is Jeff Saturday. Jeff, thank you for joining us.
We're excited to talk ball with you. Let's start.
We have a million questions, but let's start with today what we're looking at with the NFL and the stretch run, because you obviously playing for the Colts, playing deep into the playoffs many, many times. What is it like right now in the locker rooms around the NFL for some of these contending teams rolling into December being like, here's where we got to be with our head at and how we can finish this season season strong going into the playoffs.
Yeah, you know, it's always funny when people talk about like must wins, like these are the these as a player or when you feel like must wins, because you want to have that momentum going into the playoffs. Right.
So irrespective of the team or the team that you're playing or where they are on the playoffs, you're you're really not doing a ton of looking around. You really want to focus on you, understanding that the best ones are going to be there, right? If you're Dallas, you know Philly's going to be there.
You know San Fran's going to be there, right? Detroit's probably going to be. So you already kind of know in your head who the big ones are you're going to have to beat, but you're always a little fearful of, I'll use an example when I was playing Pittsburgh, right? Like Pittsburgh got hot right at the end of the season.
They ended up winning the Superbowl that year, kind of like a Buffalo this year. That's not the team.
If you're in the AFC, you don't want that team getting hot the last four weeks of the season. So from your perspective, handle your business, try to go in with some, uh, some Mo, but, uh, you know, and, and again, hope, hope for the other ones to kind of eliminate themselves you don't want to see again yeah yeah i feel like your colts teams were always ground zero for the the rest versus rust debate yes you guys would always start out so hot and you'd have your division locked up you would be the first team that would you get the one seed congratulations and then every year it would be like are the colts going to sit their guys are they going to play their guys in late December and you probably experienced both sides of that in your opinion where do you stand like you are the ultimate arbiter in my opinion of of rest versus rust what's more important yeah I think playing is the most important I think what I learned throughout was timing and rhythm matter right like and it's one of those things where um so many times I thought we had the better team, but not playing up to those points, you got back out there, you kind of had to find the rhythm.
And it's not that you, the plays are, you know, it's not that you can't execute or you're not flying around in practice, but when you hit the games, there's just something about being in the, you know, being in and out of, of the huddle, the way you are in and out of, in and out of plays, the way you are, the transitions that happened during games, you know, flips, turnovers, all those kinds of things. And so I was one of those, as we, as we went on, I was much more about playing.
I mean, even the year that we lost the Superbowl to new Orleans you know, we, we had a chance to go undefeated, right?

But we pulled our guys against the Jets.

We ended up losing that game.

But even then, I know we made it to the Super Bowl.

I still, in my head, I wanted to keep playing because I saw how many times I felt like it hurt us.

There are certain guys, obviously, you've got to rest, right?

Like the guys who are banged up, you don't want them playing.

You want to make sure that they're ready to roll come playoff time. But the majority I would say playing is is the way I would want to go so you mentioned the Saints they're not really a team that's being talked about right now but I had a question specific to them that I would love to get your take on we saw it last week offensive lineman yelling at Derek Carr coming off the field uh I know that they tried to say oh that wasn't a big deal but deal.
But my question is Derek Carr has been injured so much this year. When you're in the locker room and a guy gets injured as much as he does and he doesn't want to sit down, is there ever a tipping point where it's like, dude, we're not playing well.
You're hurt. You got to get healthy.
I know you're tough, but you have to get healthy because you're hurting the team now. For sure.
And the problem is is that you're new to that organization right and so he wants to show all the you know it's kind of that balance right it's like am I am I the tough guy that everybody believes I am or you know are people going to think I'm I'm soft so there's this fine balance where guys want to push through injury as opposed to I hate fellas I need two weeks off if you've been there right if you're Peyton Manning you've been there for 20 you know 20 years whatever it is right you've been there forever guys are going to give you the benefit of the doubt I think for Carr he's trying to build that reputation at the same time but to your point guys get frustrated right because if you're not playing to the level that we need you to play to you are hurting us and and it was it was always interesting. Bill Pullian, who's in the Hall of Fame, was our general manager.
And I remember him saying, Saturday, I've been around this game 50 years or whatever it was at that point. He said, I've seen a handful of players that I would tell you I would take an 80% of this player to 100% of their backup.
And you know what you know what that's factual you know there are just there are just few people who are that freaking good that if we if the guy behind them you know could could play at 100 you're at 80 or 75 man you're just not adding value the game is the game is played in the margins and there's too players. Right.
There's too many dudes who are that good.

At 70%, 80%, man, you just ain't cutting it.

You saw it with Joe Burrow a little bit at the beginning of the year

when they were struggling.

And then in terms of the offensive lineman quarterback,

you've had moments where they've shown you on the sideline yelling at Peyton.

How much of that is like really when you get back in the locker room,

you're like, all right, that was in the game,

or can some of it linger from time to time?

Thank you. We used audibles at the line of scrimmage so it'd be a freaking Wednesday bro we're in seven on set or nine on seven which is our time to really like run block and he's using some arbitrary call that we hadn't used since training camp you know I mean everybody's looking around like what you know what I mean so then we would get pissed and everybody's having words and you know it's going that way um but game time man it was always you're in minute you walk off the field, you're hugging.
There's no, there's no issue. I will say that the problem for me is that it's happening as quick as it's happened in, in with the saints.
And so like when you're talking about those experiences, relationships take time to develop and it's, it's already happening. And dudes are popping off on each other and frustrated with each other.
You just begin to wonder, hey, like how much of that needs to be calmed down in a lot. Like let's have a real sit down.
Like let's really get to it. The only time I will tell you as a player, when you're seeing guys at each other in repeated weeks, that's when you know something's really there.
If it's time and again, no big deal. If it's happening week after week and you see dudes pointing and yelling across the bench and all that kind of stuff, that's real.
I also saw on that same play they didn't help Derek Carr up off the ground either. They walked away from him after he got hit.
To me, that's kind of a red flag. You want to help your buddy up.
Is it possible for a coach to go back, show the team that film, and be like, hey, you didn't help Derek up. You got to help him up next time.
What are we doing out here? Will the offensive line actually see that and be like, yeah, you know what? You're right. He is our guy.
Or is that something where that bridge has been burned already, and if a coach tells you to help him up, it's like, okay, now he's like a charity case where I'm going to go help him up. This coach told me to.
Yeah. No, you, the, the coach will definitely say that.
And, and the O-line, I can assure you the coordinator, the O-line coach, they have had, they have had those conversations, right? Head coach, you know, Dennis Allen's looking at him like, Hey fellas, like we got to get this solved. You know, especially in our division where we can still go win this thing and go make, you know, some hey he is he is trying to uh fix that whatever the problem is rest assured that is a that is a highlight in their meeting of making sure hey o-line guy go down there and sit down with him man figure this thing out like we can't have because to your point everybody picks it up right like media picks it up you know fans pick it up and they pick up that feeling and the last thing you want to know is everybody airing your business you if you do have an issue let's handle it in-house let's not have everybody in the world you know chatting about us because because because people see it man and that cold shoulder whether you like it or not it's it's pronounced when you're on the field does that go both ways like if you fell down a play, would you, would you hope that Peyton would come over and pick you up?

Oh, not Peyton. You know what I mean? Like, like Edron, you know, like those dudes are picking you up.
Like, you know, P will pick you up if he's kind of mixed up in it, but he's got other

things to do. But the other O-linemen, you know, listen, quarterbacks ain't the same, right? I mean,

like they, like we don't, I don't need them worrying about picking me up. I'm going to be on the ground every play.
We'll get each other up. The other ten will take care of each other.
But it is a big deal. Like, it's a big deal when he's not getting picked up.
That's your leader, man. I mean, whether you like it or not, on Sundays, he's got to be the dude.
Yeah. And everybody's got to be behind him and riding with him, offensively especially, because it matters.
It all starts from there. So, you know, if he was mixed up in one, he'd pick you up, but he ain't running into a pile to come get a guy.
Let's just say it that way. Yes.
All right, so one of the biggest stories right now when you're looking at the playoff picture is the Kansas City Chiefs, and they've lost two straight, and they've looked bad offensively. So maybe you could draw on your own career, but the wide receivers are bad.
They have not played well. How much – I don't think it gets really talked about because everyone's like, oh, yeah, they're bad.
Patrick Mahomes is good. How much pressure does it end up being on that wide receiver room knowing they have the best quarterback in the league? Like if that happened with the Colts and Peyton's like getting the ball there but guys are dropping it because I think that's an element that we're not really talking about that it they have not performed well but there's also so much added pressure because everyone's like hey Patrick was the best you guys got to figure it out it's enormous listen I can assure you those dudes go back every Monday after that Sunday gameay game and their stomachs hurt like it because it is a to your point it it is a significant amount of pressure coming not only from internally you know in the building everybody knows right like like people you know i heard everybody go is are they screaming at tony after that play no man because everybody knows like he don't need to be screamed that he knows what he did right and so it's it's the it's the it's the elephant in the room everybody already knows it's there now the outside perception of and you're seeing and we used to talk about like drops are contagious because again as you're thinking about it so hard now instead of just letting your athletic ability take over you're like trying to find focus on don't screw this up and And you see guys get tense.
All of a sudden, they're not making the plays they should make or they normally make. But it's deeper than that for the Chiefs for me.
Like, for whatever reason, and I know they played together last year minus Smith-Schuster and that kind of stuff, but the routes, like how, you know, you think about how precise Andy Reid and that offense is and the West Coast offense is in general, right? I mean, everything is scripted out. I mean, you know, everything.
A slant is at this slant. You know, you're going to get here at this time.
Everything is timing in that offense. And that's why, like a couple years ago when people were playing two high safeties, everybody's like, well, it's messing up the rhythm.
It's messing up the timing the timing right he can't figure it out but the the receivers aren't where they're supposed to be and you can I think that part to me is the most frustrating to my home I think that's why he had the blow up is because when the guys aren't there it doesn't matter how good you are as a quarterback you're gonna be pissed bro because that's that's like That's like job one. And his frustration showing the way it is, hopefully it lights a fire under them that they all connect or they shrink the playbook down so they can all dial in on the same page.
But there is an enormous amount of pressure right now because nobody's going to blame this on Patrick Mahomes and their defense is playing lights out. So when all the lights get shined, it's going to that receiver room.
And unfortunately, they haven't met the challenge as of yet. But it's definitely fixable, but it's bigger than just the drops.
This thing is getting out of hand a little bit. Yeah, sounds like it's mental a little bit.
So put on your head coaching hat. If Jeff Saturday, the head coach, stepped into the Kansas City Chiefs locker room what do you do to fix that I'm asking I'm asking Patrick and I'm asking receivers what what do you guys want like like are we overdoing this are we putting too much in you know what tell me what is the problem while we can't all get on the same page do we need to shrink it down do? Do we need to shrink the package down? At times in a season, and I would tell you this, I was on one of the best offenses for 14 years, right? We were always good.
We were always in the top, whatever that was. Top one, five, whatever it was.
We would have these conversations about sometimes you keep adding so much that you forget to fall back to the fundamentals. And at some point that might be what they're talking about now is, hey, let's dial this back, man.
Let's run this play. Let's run our favorite five.
Instead of running those two times a game, let's run them three times a game or come back to that play. The other part, too, let me just it this way.
Like, the enemy not being there, it matters. Like, I'm not saying that Andy Reid and Nagy, these guys aren't great coaches, but the enemy had some nastiness about him, right? Like, he had some significant conversations with their players, whether that's Mah Mahomes or other people and you know with him not being there it it does get into a place where maybe some things have been allowed or or tolerated to a different degree I don't know how I don't know how to frame it but I do think Biennemi not being there um you know hurts because those players in a room are ultimately the guys who have to execute it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

I told you I'm a Bears fan.

I had to ask one question.

You were like, oh, yeah, ask me all the questions about the Super Bowl.

I know you want to hear all the questions about the Super Bowl, but it's a two-part question.

The first will be about the Super Bowl.

The second will be about today's game.

When you guys were doing the Super Bowl meeting before the Bears, was there a whiteboardboard that was like Rex Grossman is going to give us at least this many turnovers you guys have it like penciled in like don't worry about it like we don't have to be perfect because he will give us a few you will actually love this Tony Dungy was like this with every I tell people all the time thank God I never heard Tony Dungy like talk about me in an early week competitive manner. Like who knows what – he would have said I'm a bottom center.
I mean, you know, like he's one of the worst in our game. Like this dude talked about Tom Brady.
He'd be like, yeah, yeah, he'll give us two or three chances to make some plays. We just – you know, like he never – he never like pump dudes up.
So to your point, let's just say we weren't really scared of Grossman or what was going to happen on the outside with the Bears at that moment. Yeah, that, all right.
So that leads me right next one. I knew that was the answer, but I had to ask anyway, give you a win there.
The Colts Super Bowl run that year, one of the craziest parts was you guys weren't a good defense and kind of put it all together at the end stretch run. Two teams right now that have Super Bowl aspirations, the Eagles and the Lions, are in that category where their offense is great, their defenses look bad.
What is the fix this late in the season where it's like even if we can go from a C- to a b minus we now have a real chance to win this thing what how does that happen yeah the devil's in the details i mean i can literally remember this conversation of that year i don't know if you guys remember this we played the jaguars man and i think it was like mjd and fred i think both of those dudes ran for like a buck 50 or 200 yards each. We gave over 300 yards.
Like literally they both pulled their hamstrings because they were so fatigued from how many freaking yards we had given up. Right.
And we get boat raced. And I remember we go back and it was Monday and we're going back and Tony gets in front of the whole team.
And he's like, man, we just didn't really line up correctly. And I remember thinking to myself, I'm like, what are you talking about? Like this cannot be an alignment issue, right? Like we got freaking boat raced and he's like, man, it's, it's so simple.
We can fix all these problems. And if we do this, this, and this, and it was like, he was prophetic.
He's like, if we line up correctly here and we put our will here and our Sam turns the ball back inside. And he went through the whole thing, y'all.
And it was like we started doing that. And when they started, they shut down Kansas City and like an incredible rushing attack.
I mean, it was just – it was like a light bulb switch went off and it completely changed. And it was such a great lesson in life because it really all comes down to the details and if you look at the Eagles right and you look at Detroit and the mistakes that they're making all of them are correctable and it's not you know because you always see people go oh man this player can't yeah he can't that player's there for a reason but they got two great corners they got good you know that they haven't played well on the back end there, you know, their linebackers have been banged up.
They haven't gotten sacks when they should, but again, all of those things are in the minutiae. Right.
And so to your point, both teams have problems that are definitely fixable. This is not a necessary, a scheme problem or a, but this is two new coordinators, especially for the Eagles Eagles two new coordinators figuring this thing out on the run uh offense hasn't run it as well as they did last year so that puts more pressure on the Eagles defense like there's so many different things but as far as fixing it man absolutely like I said this on TV the other day man it drives me like we've written the Eagles off really like beat they beat some freaking great they had two bad weeks san fran lost three in a row you know what i mean it's like how do you i just don't write teams off like that they're too many there's too they're too good you know these players can fix it and and uh i i think the eagles over these next four you know get right games will get And figure this thing out.
The problem, I will say this, the problem for both teams, Jalen, you know, he's got 15 turnovers already. Like he had eight last year.
That is a problem. And the same, and you look at golf, that's killing the Lions.
Like the Lions don't have the same margin that the Eagles have. And that's the biggest difference for them, right? It's like if the Lions make mistakes, they're probably going to lose.
The Eagles can make mistakes and still win. It's just a tougher way of going about it.
Yeah, it's good points because we're the number one culprits of writing teams off. I write a team off on Sunday night.
I have figured out the whole league, and I've decided how everything's going to go. It's really whoever lost the most recent primetime game.
Yeah. It's like they stink.
The one that's on national television. It's like they're done for the year.
I don't see them making a comeback. We are very much prisoners of the moment in that respect.
On a recent primetime game, your former teammate Peyton Manning started talking about your butt a little bit. He did some ass talk with Jeff Saturday, and he said that he could tell your ass apart from other centers based on how it felt so i want to give you the opportunity to to respond to that and say could you tell peyton manning's ass if you were blindfolded could you tell peyton manning's hand in your ass apart from aaron rogers hand in your ass you know i don't i like what you're framing that yeah but i so not nothing's in okay it's placed on all right so No no no in you know I don't like where you're trying to lead on that question so but could I tell Peyton I could 100% tell it was Peyton for sure like other quarterbacks you get a play to do 13 years so I would hope I would recognize the way that he would take a snap uh as opposed to everybody else it is And so I don't know the softness of his hand, any of that, none of that.
And, you know, this is what Pete does. By the way, he does this every year.
He loves to take a little shot and just leave it out there. I mean, I've answered this question a thousand times this week, and he just sits back, sends a little text.
Hope you enjoy that, right? Happy holidays. Merry Christmas to you and yours you know i mean that that's he and eli bro they love doing it they just they set it up as well as anybody yeah so another thing with uh you know you got your hands in or on guys got a hand in or on your ass uh i don't know if you saw this clip but cj stroud a couple weeks ago made his center change his jersey in the middle of the game because he was too sweaty did did payton ever do that with you it's like such an emasculating thing to be like you're gross go change yeah no listen you you uh like especially early in the season when i first started playing the nfl we were in the asce so we had like games in miami right and and even when we we started doing the jacksonville games late in the season and and dude you sweat i mean you're sweating and so it does it'll it'll mess with the snaps it'll mess with everything and so you got a couple pair of pants you can run in and jog in or they have a towel they'll throw around you you'll strip your pants now i've never had to change my jersey so obviously whoever this is swampy i'm not i wasn't swampy like that but i did have to change my pants but not not the uh not the jersey thank god yeah I did see Tom Brady had his center he would have like two towels that was just yeah wedged up there the entire time did you play with the towel yeah I had I kept a towel on my side uh just just for my own hands and and he kept Peyton always kept a towel in the in his in his uh in his belt so he could wipe his hands.

But, you know, listen, man, we would talk about it. I would ask him, I mean, you know, like you can't help the sweat, bro.

Like figure it out.

You know what I mean?

And listen, it don't bother me a bit.

I don't worry about the sweat.

I don't worry about the smell.

I worry about none of it.

I got a job to do.

You figure the rest of it out.

That's why you get paid the big bucks.

Yeah.

So from your expert opinion,

who would you say right now has the best offensive line in football? Good question. Thank you.
Oh, man. That is a great question.
Great question. Thank you.
You don't even have to answer the question. That was perfect.
That was a perfect answer. Yeah.
Honestly, listen, because the Colts were balling. Their offensive line was playing really well.
The Eagles, I would say the Eagles have to be up there. They've played excellent.
Those are probably the best that I would put in the group right now. But here's the thing, like Buffalo has actually had a really good O-line season.
Like they've played good ball. There's been some teams that have been kind of beaten up, you know, in years past about their O-line play that have really made some improvements.
I thought I think Dallas, as the season has progressed, they've gotten better. Like they've, you know, Smith on the inside has become dominant.
Like he he had a freaking whale of a game against Philly, man. I mean, grabbing dudes, tossing dudes out the club like he's getting physical.
But, yeah, so the eagles to me are probably the the best and and you know but the problem with the eagles is everybody's always hating johnson always gets criticized about you know jumping early and the tush push everybody gets pissed about that uh but but i like the way they play i think they're i think they're freaking and kelsey's hall of fame freaking you know one of the greatest to ever do, and I love watching that dude play. I would say, like, it's not off-sides unless they call it.
If you're an offensive lineman, you take every single inch that they give you until they start throwing the flag, and then you adjust. But, yeah, if they're going to let you get away with it, then, yeah, I want my tackle doing that same thing.
Heck, yeah. How stupid – this is what drives me crazy.
Everybody's like, well, it's cheating. So is holding.
I held every play. I'm not going.
If I'm not calling, but if you think I'm not going to – like Howard Mudd, our old line coach, God rest his soul. He's like, God gave you thumbs for a reason.
Use them, right? Like, make that guy do it. Like, you know, don't be stupid.
But if you're inside, you grip those guys. Same thing for where you align.
I mean, imagine this. I tell people all the time, go for your job.
Go line up and go block Miles Garrett. And tell me you're not going to try to back up as fast.
You can get the fastest. This dude is 290 pounds running a 4'5 and can bench press every bit of 500 pounds.
Like, you want to go lock up with that dude? Like, give me a freaking round. I'd put him on his ass.
I'm cheating until they catch me too, bro. And no shame in saying it.
Yeah. If I play hat-to-hot football, I'd put him on his ass.
Yeah. I too bro i got and no shame in saying it yeah i play hat and hat football i'd put him on his ass yeah i go forward not backward i was scared did you actually did would you adjust what color gloves you would wear so it'd be harder for the referees to tell if you were holding oh yeah yeah you'd go white or dark depending on what you had for sure yeah you're going white glove on a you know a home and away you always made sure you didn't you didn't want now some dudes didn't because they used like the – they taped their gloves, and they would put like the little cast in their gloves for their fingers.
So if their fingers are all mangled, you know, the Booger McFarlane, you know, fingers going everywhere. So they'd put that stud, their splints, in their gloves.
I changed – I hated the way the gloves smelled. So I was one of those guys.
I'd change them. So if I was going against a white jersey, you'd white them up and vice versa.
You want to give the referees any – don't give them any advantage of seeing what you're doing. That's very smart.
All right, we're big gamblers on this show, and we like narratives. So this is a roundabout way to ask about your time with the Colts last year.
We're big interim head coach guys. And you saw it.
You obviously won your first game. your first game wasn't you know season wasn't great after that but as you step in that room can you feel the energy can you feel that guys are like oh yes this is new like they're running harder they're going to the ball harder like everything's crisper because we love it whenever an interim head coach comes you know that you got a couple games where guys are going to be flying around and everything's going to look different.
No doubt. So from my experience, we go beat Vegas in Vegas, and the dudes play lights out.
And we had the Eagles at home, and I think they had either lost one or been undefeated. And we really lost on the last play of the game.
Hurts runs it in, and we made a mental error on defense, and Hurts runs it in, but it was a tight game. We had to lead until the very end.
But 100% energy changes when an interim coach walks in. Because, listen, when coaches get fired, players get fired.
That's just reality, right? Because the next guy's coming in, he's bringing his guys. He wants bigger O-linemen or smaller O-linemen or pass rushers on defense,

not run stoppers, different corners, whatever it is, right? He's going to have his own way.

So it has definitely gotten the players' attention. I would tell you the hardest part

is managing the other coaches because this is their lives. And think about what they're going

Thank you. part is managing the other coaches because you know this is this is their lives and think about what they're going through you know like I felt awful for the like I can't tell you how um I mean it would keep me up like it it literally gutted me thinking man these guys are going to lose their job at the end of this year and it wouldn't have mattered how well like they weren't keeping their I did a good job or not, like, I'm not saying it that way, but it's still, it's a weight and you feel it, man.
And it's like, yeah, you just, you, you feel the it's, it's a, it is a difficult situation to go through. And in my situation, and I guess it would be most others, like whether it's a, it's an assistant coach who's been on the staff.
Like I I love Frank I think Frank's a hell of a football coach man I think he's a smart dude I think he I mean he's one of the best play callers I've ever been around and I like him personally as a as a human being and as a man he's one of my favorite people so it's and those other coaches went to work for him and those players came because of him you know so yeah you're working with a lot of emotion um and it was one listen I love I love doing it I love the opportunity I can't I can't tell you how much I appreciate Indianapolis and and what I got from that that organization as a whole I knew it was not going to be good like you don't go in thinking I'm going eight no right like like if you wanted, Frank should have stayed there because he, you know, he would have given you the best chance. They wanted to make a move.
And so they decided to go that way. Yeah.
Was there like 1% of you this year when the Colts fired Frank Reich that thought or the Panthers? Yeah. I'm sorry.
The Panthers fired Frank, right. Where you thought my phone, maybe, maybe I'm going to get a call.
Maybe let's see if we can run this back for one week. I would not have answered that call either way, but I would tell you this.
I went about three days, and I don't know what I was doing, but I wasn't on Twitter or X, whatever it's called now, and I bring up my phone, and there was a thing Saturday. The Panthers have signed Saturday as the coach or something like that, and I actually went back at the guys like, this was well played, sir.
And it blew up. It was good.
It was, you know, it was well played. Well timed.
But no, I had those calls would not have been. I'll answer for one team.
And that's the one I did it for last year. The rest of them, bro, that ain't for me.
I do like to link you to every possible opening job, being like just Saturday, probably getting a call to come back. Bring him in for one week and let him work his magic.
When Jim Irsay called you, we're big Jim Irsay fans on this program. He got Dan Snyder out.
We think he's an entertaining, engaged, unique individual, like a very, very unique owner. When he called you, did you at first think,, is this a joke? Is he serious? Or what was the pitch like that he gave you? No, there was no joke.
And to your point, if you know, I'm sure you've interviewed Jim or been around Jim. He is a fun and entertaining guy.
That conversation was not fun or entertaining. It was as demanding and forceful a conversation as ever had with jim like he was he was we're gonna do this you know now let's let's get this

figured out i remember my wife looked at me go are you my wife was like are you crazy i miss

midnight or one o'clock or whatever time it was super late you know it's sunday night i had been

hunting with my youngest son and my wife we were hunting i just come out of a field i was you know

But it was as surreal as it gets.

And he's like,

Thank you. I had been hunting with my youngest son and my wife.
We were hunting. I'd just come out of a field.
It was as surreal as it gets. And he's like, I want to get this done.
And how is this going to look? And it was, but no, there was no playing around. It was, this is what I expect.
Here's what my ask is. And I told him, frankly, I was like, hey, man, we're going to-8 and you know just just know like whatever your thoughts are like this ain't and and uh I mean I don't know you know I had helped with Frank talking about the old line but team I know nothing I don't know Matt I don't know I don't know any of those guys right like it's so this is gonna be but but uh Jim had made up his mind and it was it was as serious a conversation as I had ever had with Jim.

And, you know, again, you hope you never have another one like that.

But he was for real.

He was as locked in as I had ever seen him.

Did you – last question about coaching last year.

Did you ever have a moment – because whenever we have an interim head coach

and the team is bad out of the playoffs, did you ever have a moment down the stretch

where you're like, fuck it, I'm going to go for it.

Who cares?

What's the worst going to happen? Like, I'm an onside kicker. Who cares? Listen, bro, I had that moment a lot.
I mean, it was like, what was the, you know, like I never felt like, hey, whatever I'm going to do is going to be this massive. And this is the part that kills you is like the Minnesota game, right, where we have you know it's like everybody comes back it's a record setting you know you you had this lead and we blow the lead and do all this kind of stuff and and everybody i said they like what did you feel like at halftime i was like i was scared to death at halftime and they were like what i was like man we had gotten the ball like four or five times we didn't score a touchdown on offense we had long field goals.
We couldn't move it. And I felt like everything had been, you know, bounced our way.
And in the second half, it started going their way. And I said, the best feeling I had was it was fourth and inches and or a 57-yard field goal.
And Bubba and I, the special teams coach who's not Cleveland, I was like, Bubba, what do you think? He's like, I was like, I'm thinking of going. He's like, I would too.
That's a deep one right now. And so I was like, all right, perfect.
And we don't get it, right? And the next play, they throw a screen to Justin Jefferson or to Dalvin Cook, and it's freaking yard, right? And now it's two-point conversion. It's tied.
It's whatever. And everybody's like, do you regret it? I'm like, heck no, I don't regret it.
I'm going to put it I'm going to put it all on the O-line every time. And, and so I never felt like that.
The only time I ever felt like this, this was meant to be, you know, one and seven was the Houston game when we have them down like fourth and 20 twice. And, and, you know, they throw these bombs and, you know, one time my DB jumps like at the five yard line and it goes over his head.
It's just, you know, you you can't. It's like angels in the outfield, bro.
You can't script it. And I was like, well, sometimes you just ain't meant to be, bro.
And that's why the Bears got their number one overall pick. Yeah, yeah.
And that's why we flipped it. It was a butterfly.
That was one of my favorite games of the season. It probably was the best Bears game of the season.
And they weren't involved. It was.
I was the happiest I've been all year. My favorite part is the Texans fans all love me because of a few things that have happened.
That's true. Whatever I can do to take that negative and turn it into a positive, I'm here for it.
I love it. So give us your official prediction here.
Give us the AFC-NFC championship games and your Super Bowl winner.'re gonna hold you to it i'll go i think it's gonna be hmm i hate writing kansas city off but i'm and i'm gonna say i'm gonna say kc and baltimore and afc i think baltimore is gonna go and i think uh i think san fran y'all gonna make me pick right i'm picking way early i don't like doing it. I'll say I'm think San Fran, y'all are going to make me pick right now.
I'm picking way early. I don't like doing it.
I'll say I'm taking San Fran and I'm going to take Philly. I'm going to take San Fran and Philly, and I'm going to take San Fran walking through it to play.
So it'll be San Fran and Baltimore in the chip. Ooh, I like that.
And who you got? That would be a great Super Bowl. I'm going San Fran.
I mean, health-wise, I'm just telling you, if they stay healthy, they are a tough out. I feel like – You know what? Y'all like this.
The one thing I learned that I would tell you I did not put nearly enough emphasis on as a coach or really as in the last 10 10 years that i haven't been playing is explosive plays like if you if you look at any trend that really direct even even more than turnovers that direct games wins and losses it's big plays and right now san fran leads the league offensively and defense yeah fact yeah i think they win a dude off if you just sit down and name dudes that they have have. I think San Francisco has more dudes per capita than any other team.
Yeah, we talked about it on Sunday. They had four guys go for plays over 40 yards.
That's what they have. They have these guys that every single one of them can break a huge play on you.
And they fight for each other. If you go back and watch Kittle block downfield, Iuk blocks downfield, Debo is leveling people downfield.
Everybody's putting McCaffrey will push the pot. These dudes are about it for each other.
And when the ball has to be dispersed as much as it is on their offense, to get all those guys to buy it, I think Debo Samuel, I think he's an MVP, right? Because if you see the way he plays, and look at their team on the field, it's as, it's as reflective as Tyreek Hill. Like this dude is, he is a freaking grown man, bro.
And he is about it in all phases. He ain't afraid to lay his hat in there and make somebody hurt.
I respect that guy. All right.
A couple of last questions. This one's a little weird.
I was lucky enough. I was down in Indianapolis for the final four, I think in 2015, I was lucky enough to go to a dinner.
I think it was at St. Elmo's.
We sat downstairs in a private room, and they said it was Peyton's room. And they told me that Andrew Luck ordered chicken usually there.
That made me concerned. I was like, uh-oh, nervous bird.
For sure. Yeah.
What was the private room like after a win? Because I would assume you were there a bunch. And what payton usually order oh stellar but but you know it was funny he he actually has a couple places there downstairs and upstairs but it was uh yeah it it always was like a um um uh more like apps being passed out right like like everything's gonna kind of be passed out spread spread around.
It's always going to be a fantastic affair. Uh, you know, adult beverages would be flowing, celebrations going on.
And then he had an apartment down there that we all would, would, uh, would go to and, and enjoy. So, um, we won a lot.
We had a good time, man. We had a great, I tell people we had, it was so much more about the relationships than anything else.
That's why we were as good as we were. We all enjoyed each other, man.
Our wives and significant others all got along, and we all hung out. And that was – that's what made it so much more fun.
It wasn't like one guy went one play. We all hung out, and that was pretty special.
The winning an NFL game on a Sunday and then going to dinner with the boys has to be a top feeling. No doubt.
Yeah. Listen, there is nothing better.
Because you think about it. You only get, at the time it was 16, and so eight of them are at home.
Your families are there, and everybody understands that. So, like, yeah, man, you know, bring Nana and Pawpaw, right? Bring Mimi and Grampy, whatever it is, whatever you call your people, right? It's like, bring them.
And so your family gets to experience situations and people they would never, you know, I remember the first time, you know, Kenny Chesney is chilling. And I remember my family, they love some country music and they're like, holy crap they're like, Holy crap.
Like that, that's, that's Kenny Chesney. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, but the, but the situations that they get a chance to be a part of that kind of become, you know, normalized for, for what you're, for what you're doing for this short stint in your life, man, it is, it is an incredible feeling that you get the chance to share it with everybody.
It's there, there is not a better feeling of winning in the NFL. Like you said, in celebrating, man, it does not get better than that.
Yeah. My last question was going to be about Joe Flacco and the job that he's done with the Browns coming in almost like an interim quarterback, like three quarters of the way through the season, stepping in.
I would imagine that as an offensive lineman, he's a good guy to block for because you know, he's not going to be moving around in the pocket. You know, he's going to take his drop back.
He's going to get rid of the ball. Would you rather block for a guy like that or for a guy like a Russell Wilson who moves around a little bit, don't really know where he's going to be? Like Joe Flacco, I think what we're seeing is actually sustainable in a weird way for this Browns offense.
A hundred percent. I'll take the Flacco model all day.
Like, I have no problems design rollouts like what Sanford, you know, you're trying to get the quarterback out of the pocket or you're moving him to a certain place. We used to call it like waggle where the quarterback's going to line up, you know, maybe out or on where the tackle would normally be.
I do not want a dude who's back there floating around. Like, I want to know he's six yards right behind where I started that snap, man.
We can all function and play understanding where he is. And also from the quarterback's perspective, knowing that he understands timing of when the ball has to come out.
That's the part that Flacco does that I think people don't give him nearly enough credit, is he's not a holder of the ball. Even some good ones, they'll hold that thing an extra second.
Man, he manipulates the pocket extremely well, and the ball is coming out. And from an O-line perspective, not only do you fatigue the D-line because they get worn out having to charge you, but they get pissed off.
Like, I can remember, I mean, if I heard it one or I heard it a million times. Guys will be rushing Manning and the ball would come out so fast.
They would have to turn transition and go chase the ball, right? The pursuit drill on D and they're exhausted, man. And they're like, are you kidding me, bro? I got to go chase this again.
Like I got to, and even if it's a five yard little pop pass, they got to turn and run. And man, from an offensive lineman, I love it.
It's as as good as it's as good as a run game to me those dudes are getting tired they're getting aggravated they're yelling at each other do this get this you can't run games nearly as well all of that happens because of a passer knowing where he's supposed to be in the pocket and all the great ones do it man whether it's Mahomes whether it's Drew Brees Tom Brady Peyton Manning like Aaron Rodgers, all those dudes get it. Ball has got to come it, man.
Whether it's Mahomes, whether it's Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, like, you know, Aaron Rodgers, like all those dudes get it. Ball has got to come out, man, on time.
And he's making a great offensive line look even better. I've never really thought about it from that perspective.
But, yeah, that would suck if you were a defensive player and you rushed for like three seconds, and then no matter what, you were going to have to stop and then turn around and run again. Oh, listen, I loved it.
So, Bonnie Holiday, I played with him at North Carolina. He was a first-round pick.
I think he played 17 years. But he played in Green Bay and a bunch of defensive linemen.
And I used to tell Bonnie, hey, Bonnie, you never got a sack on me, bro. I locked you up.
He'd be like, Saturday. It's because he throws a ball in two seconds.
I'd be pushing your last back, but I can't get that.

I was like, hey, man, it all goes together.

No sacks, zero.

A hundred for me, zero for you.

That's how we win, man.

Those dudes get hot because they make money on sacks.

So they can't pressure get a sack, dude.

They get frustrated, and it fatigues them for sure.

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Yeah. Preach that, bro.
Okay. All right.
Yeah. That's all I wanted to say.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, they're losers, right? Losers.
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Yeah. Wasn't even a question.
Just a statement. That's the greatest thing we've said all day.
Well, Jeff, thank you so much. We love having you on, man.
We'll definitely have you back on. And love watching you talk about ball.
And so thanks so much, man. Let's do it again soon, fellas.
Appreciate y'all. Have a great one.
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Okay, let's wrap up.

We got Fyre Fest of the week.

Good week, boys.

Good week.

Thank you.

You don't know what you're going to say.

All right. Let's wrap up.
We got Fyre Fest of the week. Good week, boys.
Good week.

Hank.

You don't know what you're going to say.

I was.

Dream on green.

Definitely.

No, the announcement was actually going to be that.

Oh, you cucked yourself.

I cucked myself.

Yeah.

I mean, I guess the dump button I kind of got yelled at by Dave this week.

He was in the office.

To be fair, though, nobody thought that Ben Mintz would need any sort of delay on a broadcast he was doing. Well, we all knew he needed a dump button.
I was disgusted. Dave was like, you can't go on without a dump button and conversations.
I thought there was going to be a dump button, but the mistake was that when I found out there wasn't a dump button. You laughed about it.
All right. Yeah.
Yeah. In hindsight, it was a mistake.
What's your job? But in double hindsight, if you're looking back on your hindsight, it was actually a great move because the content that came out of it was fantastic. So in a weird way, it was actually my best producing I've ever done.
It also wasn't great when the VP of content was being asked about the lack of dumb button and he chuckled as he was getting warmed up for his morning 18 for a street you're playing golf simulator you're playing golf it's like yeah you know there's not really any time to to fix that so uh are we done here well that we were but that was tea time that was work yeah that was work i was good i i thought that or bbf i thought that your fire fest was going to be that i beat you in in golf that happened as well, but that was work. So it was kind of just like, you know, you try not to bring in the work stuff home and let it play on your mind.
But I did beat you in golf and you owe me, what, $190 worth of Chili's? $290. $290 worth of Chili's.
Yes. Can I go with you? Yeah, absolutely.
Hank's paying. Love it.
Love it. That's my announcement.

Okay.

PFT, your fire. Announcement slaps.

Yeah, it does.

It slaps.

Big fan.

For sure.

Jake loves it.

I had a pretty clean week, so I don't really want to complain too much.

I had a shaven week.

Yeah.

What's that?

Like you shaved your face off.

Yeah.

No, that's definitely not a Fyre Fest.

My Fyre Fest, I look too good right now.

I look awesome.

And it's making the haters jealous. That's a have one one final question because again i was i was so not bored but i was just like i have add i just get i get distracted i can't sit still i was just hyper focused on the on the beard the mustache the color i was trying to like double check is it i was pretty convinced it looks great yeah did you even it out today no yesterday it looked very heavy on the left side and on the right side was a little bit later maybe that's the lighting no i did not it's been my angle i did not touch it today i i dyed it a few days ago i reapplied yesterday and i think that it got darker so i think the longer to me i was like is it is it died but i was, it's so dark on the left side and it's not as dark on the right side.
That was the tell. No, that's actually because on the right side, I don't think I have as much facial hair.
Again, I am faceballed. I have the facial hair of- Please be nice.
Like a 14-year-old. Yeah.
Medical condition. Be kind.
So I'd appreciate it if you just stepped off. Maybe it's jealousy.
Yeah. Sounds like it.
Could be jealousy, but I've had a pretty good week overall. My fire fest is that I am into a weird corner of TikTok recently.
So I was golfing with the Beave and Jake last week and sorry, you couldn't make it, Hank. You were working.
We're golfing. But I got into magnet fishing and I've been watching TikToks of magnet fishing for the last like five days.
Do you know what magnet fishing is? I do not. So you take a magnet and you throw it into a river and then you just bring up whatever metal is at the bottom of the river.
It's usually guns. You find a lot of guns.
Oh yeah. I've seen this in Amsterdam.
It's sick. Yeah.
It's pretty cool. You can find like bikes.
Yes. Yes.
So I've been watching that because the Beeve put me onto it, and me and the Beeve just invested heavily in magnet fishing magnets. Love it.
And so we're going to go out and try to find some guns. Do you think there are any guns in the Chicago rivers? Might be.
Maybe one or two? Dave Matthews poop. Dave Matthews poop.
Is that metal? Yeah. It's too soft to be metal.
I think it's going to be- Oh, no. Stop this.
You're putting up pictures of Civil War generals.

That looks nothing right there.

It looks nothing.

I could see it.

It's resemblance.

Listen, I did mention Blackbird early in this podcast.

And if you've watched it, you probably are connecting some dots about the sideburns.

But Max is being a hater right now.

And there's nothing that you can say to make me feel less good in my own body.

Yeah. I love this body.
Yeah. So, yeah.
I'm into magnet fishing right now and i there's nothing that you can say to make me feel less good in my own body yeah i love this body yeah um so yeah i'm into magnet fishing right now that's good and i think it's important to have hobbies and so my hobby is going to be finding guns nice i like that i'd like to to to come along one time yeah it's magnet fishing uh okay my fire fest um i i live with terrorists not the not the sean mcdermott's kind um my kids are just like the the for all the dads out there putting your kids to bed at night is like uh it's a war and uh i'm losing bad yeah so my my uh my four and a half year old son the other night uh there's no locks on the doors but i i i he was not going to bed i was like listen i'm locking your door he's like you can't lock my door i was like oh i can lock your door i'll find a way to lock your door and so he like it was actually kind of scary because he matter of fact looked me in the eyes he goes if you lock that door i'm gonna scream so loud that no one is gonna sleep and i had i immediately was like all right listen the door thing that was a lie i was lying about that i can't lock your door but like this is my night tonight where it's like i i'm i'm helpless what can you do against that no the that was the scariest thing i've ever been a part of he's like i will scream so loud that everyone's gonna wake up that's actually it's a genius move because you have no defense against that as a parent where you can't like cover his mouth yeah it's bad do anything he also uh every morning i i take him to school i pick him up from school and uh the only thing he wants to listen to is taylor swift so yeah i like it yeah yeah it's a lot of listen a lot of shake it off it is funny though because he's like is this the song about the the bad guy and i was like yeah that's every taylor swift song yeah the guy that wronged yeah the bad guy the bad guy in every song but yeah i'm i'm going through it we're gonna figure it out nighttime i think everyone who's listening as a parent knows it's uh it's a it's a new adventure every night all right so i've got a i've got a puppy that's pretty much the same thing as raising a child. Yep.
And when Blake is getting barky, what I like to do with him is I take either a bully stick, which is just like a treat, which I actually, this kind of sucks. I made the mistake of Googling what a bully stick was.
Oh, yeah. It's bull penis.
It's bull penis. Yeah, yeah.
So you're just feeding your dog a bull's penis. Yes.
Or I give him like a bone to chew on. Is there any way that you can just give your son something to chew on yeah and then he won't scream yeah maybe just take him for a walk yeah take him for a walk yeah let him poop outside jingle the keys in front of you yeah you want to go for right in the car throw a little throw a little toy squeaky toy yeah uh all right jake wrap us up pretty clean week for me as well but my streak of not having a bathroom emergency during the show came to an end on sunday night yeah i had to run out right before the lottery draw was it p no it was lamar hold the p lamar's jakeson again yeah so reset the counter okay we'll reset it uh all right great show boys that was fun yeah it was really fun thanks to all the boys for being supportive it's good having you guys in my corner i love it okay you do have a picture of a serial killer up on the screen right now.
You're the one who brought that up.

Here's the thing.

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Yeah.

I think you look great.

No, you don't.

You're just a hater.

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