Jeff Saturday, Week 15 Picks And Previews, And The Chargers Quit On Life

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Speaker 17 On today's part in my take, we have a new guest, Jeff Saturday, former coach of the Indianapolis Colts last year.

Speaker 19 Also, won a Super Bowl. It's Peyton Manning Center.

Speaker 11 We talk ball with him.

Speaker 19 I talk what it's like in that playoff push.

Speaker 22 Great conversation with him.

Speaker 19 We then are going to preview every single game from week 15.

Speaker 30 It, I'll say it right now, one of our funnier weekend previews of the season because we were loopy, we were low on sleep, we took twists, we took turns, we got our picks, we got fuckboys, we got firefest, a great show for everyone.

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Speaker 36 Okay, let's go.

Speaker 36 No place to hang out or washing.

Speaker 36 And then I can't blame all on the sun.

Speaker 36 Oh no,

Speaker 39 Welcome to part of my take.

Speaker 17 Today is Friday, December 15th.

Speaker 40 And boys, I think Brandon Saley might get fired.

Speaker 41 Or he's fired already. He might be fired overnight.
He might be fired right after this game because we're taping the rare taping in the third quarter of Thursday night football.

Speaker 42 It is 42 to 0,

Speaker 35 the Las Vegas Raiders versus the Los Angeles Chargers.

Speaker 44 PFT. He's gone.

Speaker 45 He has to be gone right now.

Speaker 46 Either that or we learned today that maybe the Minnesota Vikings defense is just awesome for holding the Raiders scoreless for an entire game. But this is like as bad a performance as I've ever seen.

Speaker 46 And I'm a fan of of the Washington football team, Redskins, Commanders. Like, I've seen teams quit before.
Big cat, you've seen teams quit before.

Speaker 46 This is quitter. This is quiet quitting right now.
They're just not even playing anymore. Brandon Staley, I guess there's worse places to be fired than Las Vegas.

Speaker 46 Seems like if you get fired in Vegas, at least do it before I have to go to bed, wake up early, get on a flight back the next day. Like, just tell me right now, you get a free night in Vegas.

Speaker 46 You've got checks coming in. You're going to get paid for the next several years, no matter what.
Um, just let the boys have a fun night in Vegas.

Speaker 31 I actually think if he got fired in Vegas, I think he could probably interview for the Raiders' job tomorrow and be like, Mark Davis, I don't know if you know this, but I went to the playoffs last year.

Speaker 52 Like, did I, did we play you last night?

Speaker 24 No, no, no, that was a different guy.

Speaker 29 Don't worry about it.

Speaker 46 You bring up an interesting point, big cat. What if there's like a little handshake deal going on right now between Mark Davis and Brandon Staley?

Speaker 46 Like, I want to hire you as my next coach as a show of good faith. Yeah.
Just let us beat the fuck out of you for a full game. If you go along with that, then you could just stay.

Speaker 42 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 29 We'll make that deal.

Speaker 31 I'll unload on the Raiders and

Speaker 26 I'll get to go to P.F.

Speaker 19 Chang's for life.

Speaker 46 There you go. So Mark Davis puts a fuckload of money on the Raiders to cover tonight.
Brandon Staley, you'll be my next coach. He then has enough money to pay off John Gruden.
Yes. And Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 46 And then he's got a little bit of money. And there's some clown shit going on right now.
The Raiders just did a a trick oration play for another touchdown to Devontae Adams.

Speaker 24 I've never seen a team quit as much as the Chargers are quitting right now.

Speaker 29 I know Justin Herbert's out, but this is like a full-on quit.

Speaker 55 It was so bad that they were

Speaker 23 showing, I think it was whose tattoos?

Speaker 4 Was it

Speaker 4 Max Crosby's tattoo?

Speaker 21 Like with like 10 minutes left in the second quarter, Alan Kirk were already in garbage time.

Speaker 60 Like they started burning their garbage time material so goddamn fast.

Speaker 27 I'm actually worried for Al.

Speaker 19 Like, I don't know what, I don't know what he's going to say in this fourth quarter.

Speaker 60 That might be the only reason to tune in.

Speaker 46 He shouldn't even be on the broadcast anymore. Let Al go out to the steakhouse.
Let him start with the Scotch.

Speaker 46 We don't need announcers anymore in this game. I think just having a close-up of Brandon Staley, we don't even need to watch the game.
Yeah. Let's just watch Brandon Staley for the rest of this game.

Speaker 17 It's crazy. And guess what?

Speaker 45 The other thing, we buried the lead here.

Speaker 54 PFT, you were up first with Shake Shack.

Speaker 1 So Raiders, minus two and a half.

Speaker 29 I'm going to call it right now.

Speaker 41 I think we can call it 49-0.

Speaker 62 Yeah, I'll allow that.

Speaker 34 We'll call it.

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 55 I tweeted, like, I was like, great job, PFT.

Speaker 60 Thanks, PFT. Thanks, Shake Shack.

Speaker 63 And you're like, don't mush it.

Speaker 31 It's like.

Speaker 46 It was 28-0 at the time, I think.

Speaker 41 The Chargers have quit so fast in this game, it was like almost instantly.

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Speaker 65 Yes.

Speaker 19 So a couple of things, PFT. I have a couple questions for you.

Speaker 17 First, so Aiden O'Connell didn't throw that touchdown pass, correct?

Speaker 49 No, they should have.

Speaker 4 These are the games that, like, just go for records.

Speaker 68 Like, Aiden O'Connell had four touchdown passes in the first half.

Speaker 35 The record is seven, which is tied by a bunch of people.

Speaker 62 These are the gate, like, everyone's been in this game in Madden.

Speaker 46 or like college football.

Speaker 11 Like just go for records.

Speaker 46 I want to see it get so much worse. If it's going to be a bad game, I want the worst things to possibly happen.
So, I want the Chargers to keep fumbling.

Speaker 46 I want the Raiders to keep doing fuck shit on offense. I want Aiden O'Connell to throw for 10 touchdowns.
I want Mark Davis to come down on the sidelines shirtless, just dancing around.

Speaker 46 I want Brandon Staley to get like assaulted by his own team.

Speaker 46 I want a complete shit show if this is going to go off the rails like this.

Speaker 60 Give everything to us.

Speaker 68 So, my question, the other question I had for you, PFT, is I got old takes exposed tonight.

Speaker 31 Our friend, Old Takes exposed, is going back for Brandon Staley tweets.

Speaker 2 And I said, I think it was that press conference where Brandon Staley was talking about his like fourth down,

Speaker 31 you know, thoughts, like I want to be aggressive. And I was like, Chargers, you know, got it right with Brandon Staley.

Speaker 6 This is from 2021.

Speaker 60 Brandon Staley was a good coach for a year.

Speaker 50 His brain melted.

Speaker 60 Something happened in the last two years where everything changed.

Speaker 29 But remember when Brandon Staley came on the scene?

Speaker 41 Like he was a breath of fresh air.

Speaker 60 We had him on this show.

Speaker 54 I was jealous of the Chargers.

Speaker 72 Everything.

Speaker 2 So I guess my question is this.

Speaker 41 Is Brandon Saley a bad coach or did the Chargers just get into his brain?

Speaker 19 Like lead poisoning?

Speaker 46 I think he's a great coach right now because they're tied 7-7 in the second half. The Chargers just scored a touchdown.

Speaker 48 So don't write the ball. The Chargers are ahead of me.

Speaker 60 It's insane.

Speaker 46 Don't write this. It's insane.

Speaker 11 I hate the internet.

Speaker 31 Streaming has somehow made it so that everyone in America watches games at different times.

Speaker 17 I don't think there's one house that's the exact same.

Speaker 46 There should be one. There should be one like how they have Greenwich Mean Time and like Big Ben is the clock that everybody goes off.

Speaker 46 There should be one computer that's playing the game and that's like this is the actual time. Try to sync up as close as possible to it.

Speaker 46 But yeah, the Chargers are now 7-7 second half. So don't write them off just yet.
Brandon Staley mounting a furious comeback. But he was a good head coach.
Like,

Speaker 46 don't let what's happened recently fool you. He was a good coach that first year.
What always has sucked about him, though, is his defense, which is weird.

Speaker 46 He's a defensive coach, and his defenses are always in the bottom like five of the NFL. They've had some bad injury luck.

Speaker 46 I will say that the Chargers seem to be more injured than any other franchise, with maybe the exception of the Ravens.

Speaker 46 But they always get guys banged around. They never have their best players out there.
But Brandon Staley is not a good.

Speaker 46 He's not a good defensive coach at all. The fourth down thing,

Speaker 46 that is great if you're winning.

Speaker 46 But if your defense is such shit that you don't even have an opportunity to flex your fourth down analytics muscles then it then it's a big issue plus really you could say brandon staley has set the analytics community back like 40 years yeah because he did yeah he's known as the analytics poster boy the wonder kid yeah of the analytics movement and the fact that his teams have fallen apart so so terribly

Speaker 46 really makes you think like i don't want my head coach to ever look at a number again yes you're you're absolutely right he's He's ruined it for everyone else.

Speaker 17 Um, this game is so bad, though. It's so bad.
It is giving me flashbacks. You've mentioned at the start, PFD, that we've seen this before for our teams.

Speaker 59 Um, it gave me a flashback that Hank's going to have a chuckle for.

Speaker 49 Uh, remember that, Hank?

Speaker 31 I'm pretty sure the Packers were up 42-0 on the Bears.

Speaker 31 And it was like, it was like Aaron Rodgers was playing a video game, and I was sitting in the hotel room in Arizona, and Dave and Hank were with me, and they just sat next to me and just laughed in my face for an entire half.

Speaker 50 There's been some bad ones.

Speaker 49 This is, you know, you just got to regroup.

Speaker 29 Maybe Easton Stick will get hot in the second half, and then you can trade him to someone for like a third-round pick.

Speaker 46 Well, that's the thing. You can't even, you can't even say we should take our starters out because neither team really has starters that they're playing right now.

Speaker 11 Right.

Speaker 46 It's great. Like Aiden O'Connell, he's going to stay in the game.
Although they keep showing Aiden O'Connell, doesn't he look a little bit like a really bad video game rendition of Derek Carr?

Speaker 46 He's like, they don't get the pixels just exactly right. And then they've got Easton Stick.
And what are you going to do? Sit Easton Stick down, put Max Duggan in?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I mean, it's just like, it's, I don't know what you do.

Speaker 31 I don't know what you do.

Speaker 17 So it's, it's a shit show for the Chargers right now.

Speaker 31 It's an absolute shit show. Yeah, put in Max Duggan.

Speaker 26 If I were a player, I'd not want to come out.

Speaker 19 I'd want all the stats.

Speaker 46 Yeah, although like the way the Chargers are playing, that's a lot of, you probably fumble the ball a lot. Everyone's fumbling on the Chargers.
They should just call it a game.

Speaker 46 They should just slaughter rule it. Say, Mercy rule, take your ball, go home, shut out the Indiana Pacers.
It's just, there's no point in continuing this.

Speaker 26 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 42 It's it's it's bad, bad, bad. I had one other thing

Speaker 29 before we kick it to ourselves, and we're gonna we're gonna talk all the games on uh Saturday and Sunday.

Speaker 31 I had some breaking moves.

Speaker 60 Okay, so Travis Kelsey was noticeably absent during Taylor Swift's 34th birthday celebration in New York City.

Speaker 80 This is from Entertainment Now, but for a good reason.

Speaker 4 A source tells E.T.

Speaker 6 that he remains committed to playing his best and doing his best on and off the field.

Speaker 14 The team practices are critical, mandatory to attend, and something he takes very seriously.

Speaker 17 So it's no surprise he stayed in Kansas City ahead of this weekend's game.

Speaker 46 Selfish, selfish boyfriend.

Speaker 42 This is...

Speaker 46 Taylor deserves somebody that will take, that will make time for her.

Speaker 31 I really wish I could talk to the author who spent all day trying to find sources

Speaker 31 to see if practices are mandatory.

Speaker 36 Be like, wait, so could he have skipped it?

Speaker 39 Could he have gone to the party?

Speaker 41 Like, I'm going to double check this.

Speaker 36 Let's really find out.

Speaker 46 Yeah. I mean, he probably could have.
It's another boyfriend that won't miss work for her, whatever.

Speaker 46 She puts him first she shows up all the time to his games he can't make time to to visit her i did see a picture of her birthday party so i've got a picture right here she got a big it looks like a cookie cake and um in the background there's a guy that looks a whole lot like jeff darlington back there oh

Speaker 46 i don't know if i don't know what's going on

Speaker 46 we've been putting the pieces together with jeff She has a thing for him. I don't know if Jeff's swooping in on Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 60 Jeff and Taylor sitting in a tree uh by the way the chargers uh team account i like this they just posted the the touchdown and just said we scored period all lowercase i like it yeah like lean into it this is a show everyone should have fun with this i know people like when when these games happen like it just becomes a roast let's just have fun with it like have it just do weird do this is actually a perfect time for my fake punt punt I like that.

Speaker 46 Yeah, the fake punk punt would be good.

Speaker 27 No one would see the fake punk punt coming.

Speaker 46 Break out the downfield laterals. Yes.
Weirdly. Get experimental with it.
The more I think about it,

Speaker 46 it's not the craziest thing that we've ever said that Brandon Staley is giving this game to Mark Davis.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 44 No, I, I, it will, if he was able to get some action on it, he could pay off all his debts and then start fresh.

Speaker 50 And Brandon Staley would be like, listen, I'm such a good coach.

Speaker 49 I will make sure this game is never in doubt that you win.

Speaker 68 Like, you will never even have to sweat like for a second this game.

Speaker 31 That's That's how good of a coach I am.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 46 You think he could, you think if a coach was good enough, they could give you the final score of, let's just say, 55 to 7 and hit it perfectly?

Speaker 49 It'd be pretty tough.

Speaker 68 That would be like a perfect score would be pretty tough.

Speaker 47 But

Speaker 58 maybe Brandon Staley's that good.

Speaker 35 He's a savant.

Speaker 24 Oh, Chargers are starting to come back.

Speaker 44 This would be the funniest thing ever.

Speaker 6 It actually, someone had a perfect tweet.

Speaker 29 I can't remember who it was.

Speaker 17 I apologize.

Speaker 17 But they're like, this won't be a real Chargers game until they tie it 42, 42, and then lose on a safety.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 31 That's always in play with the Chargers.

Speaker 11 That'd be really good.

Speaker 46 Should we talk a little bit about the Giannis ball controversy?

Speaker 48 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 11 The Pacers and the Bucs have a rivalry now.

Speaker 6 Talking about getting their licks in and everything.

Speaker 46 Yeah, it's good. This is good for basketball.
Giannis dropped 64, I believe. And the Pacers Pacers took the game ball because Oscar Toshibwe had his first point.

Speaker 46 He scored a point and they were like, we need to save this ball for him. And then Giannis stormed into the locker room, like sprinted into the locker room to try to get the game ball back.

Speaker 46 My question is,

Speaker 54 the best part is he had the game ball.

Speaker 46 What do you mean?

Speaker 36 So Worldwide Wab, I think, broke it down.

Speaker 44 I'm pretty sure the Bucs trainer got the ball that he had that last dunk from. So he had the actual game ball.

Speaker 82 He just didn't see it.

Speaker 46 Oh, so it was a miss, it was a misunderstanding.

Speaker 44 Yeah, like they had the original game ball, and I think the pacers then took the next ball or like a ball around there.

Speaker 19 And so the whole thing started, and it was like they actually had the ball the whole time.

Speaker 46 Well, that was going to be my question: isn't there more than one ball?

Speaker 26 There is more than one. Well, no.

Speaker 46 There's just one ball.

Speaker 90 There is just one ball. You almost got me there.

Speaker 46 Just one ball. Actually, no, it was a serious question because in football, you've got a bunch of different game balls.
And in baseball, obviously, tons of them. But in basketball,

Speaker 46 do they just keep the ball for as long as it stays relatively inflated? I know they have backup balls.

Speaker 44 The pictures of the hallway is so funny of Giannis being held back and everything.

Speaker 29 So I'm watching right now.

Speaker 6 It's a complete misunderstanding.

Speaker 31 The game ends and the Bucs trainer literally runs right out and gets the ball from the ref, the original game ball.

Speaker 46 Giannis is kind of a psycho, huh?

Speaker 94 That's so good.

Speaker 46 I didn't know he had that in him.

Speaker 46 He always seems like a mild-mannered guy, has fun with the media. Like, what a psycho to go try to storm into the locker room to steal a ball.

Speaker 48 He needs his ball.

Speaker 78 Give me the ball.

Speaker 46 What's he going to do with that ball?

Speaker 42 He basically was no different than like a Labrador being like, I need my ball back.

Speaker 67 Give me my ball.

Speaker 46 Just like completely focused on the thing.

Speaker 46 My theory was they should cut the ball in half and give half of it to Oscar, half of it to Giannis, and then see which one says no don't cut the ball in half i'd rather see the full ball go to the other person than you destroy it and split it between us yes i mean let's do it it's worked in biblical times which one is that solomon solomon which one samson's is the hair right the hair the hair thing yeah yeah

Speaker 46 we also have an end to our long national nightmare we know what what shohe otani's dog's name is oh I didn't see this. I got a very important push notification from the athletic on that one.

Speaker 46 His dog's name is, hang on, let me pull this up so I don't mispronounce it. His dog's name is Decoy,

Speaker 46 but in Japanese, I think it's Dekopin.

Speaker 46 And that means to flick one's forehead. So he named his dog boop.

Speaker 11 Ooh.

Speaker 44 Well, no, flick is not a boop.

Speaker 46 I think like flick, tap, probably the same thing.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 17 Chohe is going to be a villain now, by the way, because I'm pretty sure the Dodgers have traded for Glasnow from the Rays, and they have like all this money to operate.

Speaker 31 Chohe is going to be hated if the Dodgers win like 120 games in the World Series.

Speaker 46 He's going to be hated. For sure.
Like, we hate everybody that's successful. That's kind of what we do.

Speaker 31 But the flip side is what's going to be very funny because it's more realistic to happen is the Dodgers are going to win 120 and then get bounced in a five-game series and everyone's going to be like the playoff structure is wrong.

Speaker 46 The format's off, yeah.

Speaker 11 I actually look, I'm looking forward to that moment.

Speaker 26 That's going to be a great day.

Speaker 46 That would rock if that's what happens. But if they win like four World Series in a row, then everyone's going to be like, fuck this, break up the L.A.
Dodgers. Yes, yes.

Speaker 56 Okay.

Speaker 46 Should we kick it to ourselves?

Speaker 48 I think it's time.

Speaker 16 Let's kick it to ourselves.

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Speaker 57 Okay, boys.

Speaker 96 Week 15.

Speaker 46 We're in the fourth quarter of the football season.

Speaker 81 Well, here's the thing, PFT.

Speaker 44 We have this discussion.

Speaker 35 We cherish it.

Speaker 98 The minute Saturday football shows up, it's usually like in your head.

Speaker 53 You're like, oh yeah, NFL Saturday. I love NFL Saturday, but it is...

Speaker 24 a Pavlovian response of like, I shouldn't be watching this NFL Saturday.

Speaker 35 I should be doing holiday shopping.

Speaker 46 To me, it's more like you get a football weekend of NFL. Yeah.
Which is nice. Like the NFL.

Speaker 46 To their credit, they stay off Saturdays for the most part until college football is over. They stay off Fridays for the kids that are playing high school football.

Speaker 46 But then once college football goes away for the most part, they're like, okay, let's fucking just take over the entire weekend. Yep.

Speaker 69 And so we go three Saturday, seven early Sunday, three late, Sunday night, Monday night should have given us two Monday nights.

Speaker 46 Did you see that next year, or maybe not next year, but they just announced that they're going to start doing eight games overseas?

Speaker 42 Eight international games. I know.

Speaker 46 This is i said it's a lot of this it's a lot of international games it's it's america's game again we are

Speaker 8 we are we are the only ones i think talking about this they are trying like damn hell to get a super bowl overseas and we have to stop it so let's all not watch the first quarter next year of all these games so yeah first quarter maybe no pregame no pregame i'm not watching any pregame in the brazil game we're probably

Speaker 8 yeah there's a brazil game coming

Speaker 14 tom brady out of retirement to woo back Giselle.

Speaker 46 I like that idea.

Speaker 26 Belichick Florio get on that.

Speaker 40 Belichick loves big asses.

Speaker 46 Yep, that's facts down there. We're about two years away, I'd say, from our first Saudi Arabia game.
Yeah. Probably the, I would imagine the Bills would be in that game.

Speaker 26 That will be a private.

Speaker 104 That will be a private game, though.

Speaker 8 Yeah. No one can watch.

Speaker 46 Pay-per-view.

Speaker 24 It will just be for some

Speaker 18 Sultan's son.

Speaker 46 It'll just be for NBS and his voice.

Speaker 57 Yeah, he'll just be hanging out.

Speaker 106 All right, so let's get into the games.

Speaker 14 Week 15.

Speaker 98 We're going to, this is the week where, like, last week was crazy because we had a lot of bad teams on paper beat good teams and win games.

Speaker 100 But this is the week I think that we're going to get a very clear,

Speaker 81 here is what the playoffs, their shrink, they're going to shrink down to maybe eight teams instead of right now in the AFC.

Speaker 28 There's like 11 teams, NFC, there's eight or nine teams.

Speaker 81 Once we get through this weekend, I think it's going to be pretty clear who's going to be most likely in the playoffs because there'll only be three games left.

Speaker 46 There's a great graphic out there of it visualizes it for you. Like I love data visualizations because I'm dumb.
I need like a chart to tell me what's going to happen.

Speaker 46 Yeah, it shows you how much your chances improve if you win this weekend versus how much they decrease if you win this weekend.

Speaker 46 So, it looks like the Broncos have the most to gain this weekend with a win. Yeah.
Um, and the there's some teams at the top that obviously doesn't really matter or not.

Speaker 46 I'd say Broncos, Packers, Bucs. That's going to be a good game, the Bucs and Tampa Bay.
Yeah. Because whoever wins that one, I think you should be in a good to about like 75% or more.

Speaker 98 I like that you said that the visual stuff because that is one of the greatest cop-outs in the world.

Speaker 86 Being like, I'm more of a visual learner.

Speaker 100 It's essentially saying, I don't want to hear you talk anymore.

Speaker 46 I also like, it's a close neighbor of, you know, what? I have time blindness. So that's why I'm not, it's a disability that I have.
Yeah. That's why I'm not ever on time blindness.

Speaker 71 It has nothing to do with the fact that I was playing Candy Crush while I was taking a shit for 45 minutes when I should have been getting ready.

Speaker 46 Definitely not. But I will look at any chart and I'll pretend to understand a chart.
But if you put numbers in front of me, then I'm like, this is, it's too close to math. Yes.
Okay.

Speaker 111 First game,

Speaker 21 saturday afternoon vikings bengals this game's actually kind of a fun game because we have the backup bull jake browning who's been playing well versus nick mullins josh dobbs is now qb three uh

Speaker 2 probably for the better probably for the better the josh dobbs it was fun i think that if you want to tell the story of the 2023 season you can't leave out josh dobbs but it was time It was time to move on.

Speaker 46 I would say

Speaker 46 I would put him at QB two because if something happens to Mullins and he gets hurt, Josh Dobbs might be good coming in as backup.

Speaker 114 But they did not.

Speaker 61 Darren Hall is QB2.

Speaker 100 But this game is fun to me because it is two backup quarterbacks.

Speaker 109 So you say on paper, ooh, that's kind of gross.

Speaker 62 But I would argue that the Bengals and the Vikings are top five in terms of weapons on either side.

Speaker 63 So the backup quarterbacks are set up pretty well.

Speaker 18 Justin Jefferson's back.

Speaker 58 So Justin Jefferson, Jordan, Addison, and Hawkinson.

Speaker 100 And then on the other side, you know, T.

Speaker 58 Higgins, Boyd, Jamar Chase, Joe Mixon, and this new guy, Chase Brown.

Speaker 46 Chase Brown. He was on the IR earlier this season.
Yeah, new guy to this season. Fast as fuck.
He's a new name that everybody should know.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 40 So, yeah, talk to us about this game.

Speaker 89 What are you thinking?

Speaker 46 Okay, so is Jake Browning, is he really a backup at this point? Because I feel like Jake Browning has played his way into being like, this team has a chance. This team has a chance.

Speaker 46 I think the Bengals actually have a chance. They could make some noise in the playoffs.
How about that? I don't think that they have a chance to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 46 But I could see them winning a playoff game with Jake Browning.

Speaker 61 I'm at the point now with the AFC that

Speaker 100 everything's on the table because everyone's gotten injured and no team has looked dominant that it is going to be the most wide open AFC playoffs.

Speaker 18 And when I say that, it's probably going to be the Chiefs getting the one seed somehow.

Speaker 117 I kind of like the Vikings in this game, though.

Speaker 58 And I like them because Brian Flores, we touched on it on Sunday that he is doing stuff that people can't even figure out with his defense.

Speaker 18 Zone blitzes, just, you know, multiples.

Speaker 29 You got to say multiples when you talk about this stuff.

Speaker 61 He's doing a lot of multiples.

Speaker 46 He's got guys at every level.

Speaker 81 Every single level.

Speaker 101 So, yeah, I think that this is going to be Jake Browning's first test, true test,

Speaker 49 because the Colts and the Jaguars aren't great defenses.

Speaker 39 The Vikings have been playing like a great defense.

Speaker 35 That's going to be tough.

Speaker 114 And you're getting points.

Speaker 76 Yeah, I kind of like the Vikings in this game.

Speaker 46 Probably going to be confusing for Jake Browning. But counterpoint, it's a Jake Browning revenge game.

Speaker 85 It is. that's true.

Speaker 39 He almost quit football.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 81 So he was actually, I think the story was he was like driving to go coach high school football when he took one more shot

Speaker 46 with the Bengals. Thank God he did.
Yes. This is also a big game for one particular Bengals fan, Florence Hackman.
She goes by Flo. Okay.
She's turning 105 years old on Saturday. Okay.

Speaker 46 And she's celebrating with her three favorite things. This girl can party.

Speaker 46 Firefighters, watching football, and whiskey. She's drinking fireball, having a bunch of firefighters over to her birthday because she's horning for firemen.
Wait, how old is she?

Speaker 46 And watching the Bengals.

Speaker 46 She turns 105 years old on Saturday. Hell yeah.
And she's having a. Wait, let me see a picture.
Okay, I'll show you a picture. You want to see it?

Speaker 86 I think you want to put it on the bonk list.

Speaker 118 Florence Hackman.

Speaker 61 When are we doing the bonk list?

Speaker 119 Should we do it next week? It's the end of the year.

Speaker 26 I don't think Hank's not ready.

Speaker 84 Oh, Hank's not ready.

Speaker 55 That was a not ready.

Speaker 46 Tell me she doesn't look good for 105. Oh, she's hot.
She's real hot. Florence Hackman having a big firefighter whiskey party, drinking fireball.
Yeah. This is a party girl right here.

Speaker 26 Florence. And rooting for a Bengals.

Speaker 99 We don't make a lot of Florence's anymore.

Speaker 46 I'm rooting for this Florence.

Speaker 85 I know when we'll do the bonk list. One.

Speaker 103 No, no, you cannot save it for your set.

Speaker 44 I'm going to. No, that's bullshit.

Speaker 2 You're robbing the people of the bonk list.

Speaker 113 The bonk list was an all-time moment last year.

Speaker 7 And it will be an all-time moment. No.

Speaker 8 I need fucking materials.

Speaker 115 No, that's not.

Speaker 97 You can't do that.

Speaker 26 The bonk list is a podcast.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 113 The bonk list. You can replay it.

Speaker 115 You know what?

Speaker 44 No.

Speaker 7 Here's what you could do. I can replay it on the show after I do it.

Speaker 93 No, no, no.

Speaker 61 You can replay it on the, you can do a visual bonk list

Speaker 105 in the set.

Speaker 121 That's fair. No.

Speaker 46 So, yeah, Hank, how much crossover?

Speaker 16 AWLs, tell Hank to release the bonk list.

Speaker 92 Tweet him and say, release the bonk list.

Speaker 113 No, but you have to do it on the show.

Speaker 85 I will.

Speaker 57 No.

Speaker 13 I will. This is bullshit.

Speaker 46 How much crossover is there between the bonk list and the no-fly list, Hank?

Speaker 87 That's just.

Speaker 114 That's a good one. You're picking up what I'm putting down.
Yeah.

Speaker 47 Well,

Speaker 47 wait,

Speaker 86 you're fucking Jeff New Dew?

Speaker 123 I get it.

Speaker 26 Oh, there you go, Jake.

Speaker 2 You will figure out something to do, but

Speaker 26 I will help make you. You know what?

Speaker 42 What if I do this?

Speaker 124 Okay.

Speaker 2 You release the bonk list.

Speaker 43 I will make you a slideshow for the show, with the bonk list.

Speaker 87 Deal?

Speaker 16 I'll make you a slideshow.

Speaker 46 We have to be very careful about what we say to Hank over the course of the next

Speaker 46 farming on. Everything is just going to...
Well, I'm not going to do that now. I'll put that in.

Speaker 124 Yeah, he is just doing future Hank.

Speaker 4 He's just farming. He's not going to talk talk for the next month and a half.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 40 Saving it for the show.

Speaker 116 He's not even talking right now.

Speaker 46 Every word that he uses right now is wasted. That could be in my set.

Speaker 7 I have an hour to do. Okay.

Speaker 125 That's the perfect.

Speaker 7 That's a

Speaker 7 perfect time for it.

Speaker 79 Actually.

Speaker 46 What about all the people that go to the show that aren't part of my take fans that are going there for a nice evening of comedy, and all of a sudden you're doing this very inside joke about the bonkers?

Speaker 26 All right, I'll do it at that point.

Speaker 84 They're not going to be there.

Speaker 7 Those people will already left.

Speaker 87 Okay. Okay.
We'll talk. We'll talk off air.

Speaker 46 Because they're so disappointed. Yes.

Speaker 8 Also,

Speaker 73 I'll say the idea out loud.

Speaker 39 Remind Jake.

Speaker 126 Oh, you just spilled on yourself.

Speaker 96 You're two for two.

Speaker 46 Two for two.

Speaker 61 Yep. Two for two in the last show spilling.

Speaker 103 Jake, remind us when

Speaker 61 we go to Vegas and PFT and I need to buy somewhere between,

Speaker 35 I'm going to say 1,000 and 2,000 tomatoes that we can pass out to the crowd.

Speaker 127 Just full tomatoes. Yeah.

Speaker 26 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 40 There'll be a segment from the tomato throwing.

Speaker 43 Well, I mean, the tomatoes, if you're doing bad, you should get tomatoes thrown at you.

Speaker 87 Or, or I'll start throwing them back.

Speaker 3 Or I'll bring a fucking gun.

Speaker 13 Here's a fun compromise.

Speaker 113 I'll do no tomatoes. You can't do the bonk list.

Speaker 7 No, fine.

Speaker 62 All right, tomatoes on.

Speaker 7 If you don't think I'm throwing them back, I'll go directly at you.

Speaker 128 I'm not going to throw them.

Speaker 8 Other people are going to throw them. You can't throw them at me.

Speaker 75 I will.

Speaker 47 Okay.

Speaker 39 Well, I'm not even going to be there.

Speaker 127 Speaking of reminders, happy Jokic Day, the 15th.

Speaker 46 Respect Jokic.

Speaker 55 Every other month now.

Speaker 26 Okay. That's too much.

Speaker 11 I'm not ready. Didn't we do that last year?

Speaker 69 I was following your guys' direction. You know, you were.
You were.

Speaker 46 That didn't count for this month because we just respected Jokic last week.

Speaker 73 I was going to say tennis ball gun.

Speaker 102 I just didn't say tennis ball.

Speaker 7 I'm not going to bring a gun. That was a little.
No, you said gun.

Speaker 119 We'll clip that and send it to the FBI.

Speaker 116 By the way, we have Hank.

Speaker 46 We'll be back for ratings if you murder our audience.

Speaker 23 This has been a long week.

Speaker 40 We've been in the office a lot.

Speaker 86 This, we got full-on goofy Hank today, which is my favorite Hank.

Speaker 124 He's goofy-brained.

Speaker 46 Also, if you're in Las Vegas, I'm pretty sure that Nevada is a standard ground state. So if Hank does have a gun, you're welcome to produce your own firearm.
Yep.

Speaker 59 That's a fact. All right, nerd nugget.

Speaker 127 In the 14 meetings between the Vikings and Bengals, the road team has won just one time. The series is tied 7-7, but the Bengals lead 7-1 in Cincinnati, while the Vikings are 6-0 in Minnesota.

Speaker 46 Okay, this is to decide the ultimate NFL rivalry, the Vikings or the Bengals.

Speaker 44 That means nothing.

Speaker 127 Home teams won 13-14.

Speaker 18 I mean, the ones last time they played four years ago?

Speaker 8 Probably. Yeah.

Speaker 46 These two teams don't like each other very much. Yep.

Speaker 93 Well, no, they actually like them a lot when they come visit.

Speaker 13 True. Because they win.

Speaker 8 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 2 Steelers at Colts.

Speaker 53 Next game.

Speaker 59 I'm going off vibes in this game, PFT.

Speaker 39 I got stats for some games. This one's a vibes game.

Speaker 46 I got some stats for this one. Okay.

Speaker 44 You want to go stats in the game?

Speaker 39 My vibes?

Speaker 46 That's the Colts are 6-26 against the Steelers all-time. Ursay tweeted that out himself.
He's thinking about it. He's thinking about it hard.

Speaker 46 He does have the power to open up the roof, which is probably the one piece of power that Ursai has to affect the game. It's only going to be 50 degrees.
We could bring a gun.

Speaker 46 We might get, yeah, he could. Well, I don't know if he's legally allowed as his charges.

Speaker 46 But it's going to be 50 degrees outside. The roof could be open in Indy this weekend.
So that's what I'm hoping for. Another stat, TJ Watt has been cleared by an independent neurologist.

Speaker 46 Probably in Pittsburgh, probably with a terrible towel framed above his medical degree.

Speaker 80 Wait, no, the Steelers have never done anything with bad doctors on the team, right?

Speaker 46 They've never done that. Yeah.
Was it was this

Speaker 63 truth? Tell the truth.

Speaker 46 Because that guy is Pittsburgh, right?

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, that was what I was alluding to. Yeah.
That was all the Steelers' team doctor.

Speaker 96 Toe to truth.

Speaker 46 Yeah. And then there was another thing that happened this week where Big Ben went on his podcast and said, maybe the Steelers' tradition is over at this point.
You've lost Big Ben.

Speaker 46 And I don't know what Big Ben thought the Steelers tradition was.

Speaker 46 I think in Big Ben's mind, the Steelers' tradition was Big Ben playing quarterback because that's what I think about when I see the Steelers.

Speaker 131 I went on our,

Speaker 100 for everyone who's listening in Pittsburgh, you probably know this, but but PFT and I trade off.

Speaker 17 We do Thursdays with our guys at W DVE, Randy Bauman and Bill Crawford, and they are down.

Speaker 18 I'm sure. It was down.

Speaker 46 It's a tough time.

Speaker 100 It was not.

Speaker 14 They were talking to me about Mitch.

Speaker 90 And

Speaker 100 now they also are, I guess there's a rumor that the Steelers could be in the running to get Justin Fields in a potential trade.

Speaker 18 So it's essentially like it couldn't.

Speaker 58 It's the shittier version of the Packers and Jets pipeline.

Speaker 46 Yeah, this is going to be the Steelers.

Speaker 46 They're not going to be bad enough to draft a good quarterback. Correct.

Speaker 8 I still believe in Kenny.

Speaker 46 They could make the play. I kind of believe in Kenny Pickett, too, just because you look at the change between Mitch and Kenny, and the offense looks entirely different.

Speaker 43 So

Speaker 43 here's the vibes.

Speaker 89 Ready for the vibes?

Speaker 71 The Steelers just lost to the Cardinals and the Patriots, two of the worst four teams in the NFL.

Speaker 86 Yep.

Speaker 98 Mitch looked really bad.

Speaker 81 The Steelers have looked really bad.

Speaker 118 You have to bet the Steelers.

Speaker 102 That's the vibe.

Speaker 46 That is kind of how it goes with that team.

Speaker 118 That is the vibe.

Speaker 46 The harder they bounce back.

Speaker 61 Mike Tomlin is not a favorite anymore.

Speaker 86 He was a favorite the last two games.

Speaker 16 That's the vibe.

Speaker 46 There's no Jonathan Taylor. No, Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 23 The Colts do run a lot of cover three.

Speaker 82 Mitch does do well historically.

Speaker 35 That would be the one defense he would pick.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 124 Yeah. That's the vibe.

Speaker 46 Are we sure Jonathan Taylor's out? I want to double. I want to cross-check that.
I know that it doesn't look likely that he's playing, right?

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 46 We made this mistake with Tank Dell and then he. Oh, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 85 Yes. Rap sheet.

Speaker 8 Was that the Royal Wii?

Speaker 46 We, as a podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 26 We all. You didn't stop me.

Speaker 46 We made this mistake as a group.

Speaker 72 We are collectively responsible for Tank Dell.

Speaker 16 No, you get to just.

Speaker 116 You don't want to do that again with Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 46 You get to expand the circle when you're wrong. Barstool Sports as a whole made a mistake about Tank Dell.

Speaker 16 Sports journalism. Yeah.

Speaker 46 Yeah. The industry.

Speaker 2 Let's go

Speaker 13 10,000 foot views.

Speaker 46 You know what? Our generation made a mistake about Tank Dell

Speaker 46 saying, like, we'd rather be first than write about it. Yes.
We don't want to do this as millennials.

Speaker 44 Yeah, no, it's like, you know, the greatest generation is, you know, who fought World War II.

Speaker 61 Our generation is just the generation that got the Tank Tell news wrong.

Speaker 46 Yeah, and it's a black eye that we're never going to recover from as a whole, unless we try to make steps as a group and fact-check things. So Jonathan Taylor is out per Jake Marsh.

Speaker 46 So if Jake's wrong, it's all his fault. Yep.

Speaker 57 Okay.

Speaker 111 Jake, nerd nugget.

Speaker 127 Saturdays are for the Steelers. No team has had more success on Saturdays than the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Their 36 victories on Saturday are the most in the NFL since 1940.

Speaker 46 Fibes. That's pretty good.
I like that stat. Vibes.
I like it a lot.

Speaker 46 Mike Tomlin, I heard some rumors, and I think this went along with Big Ben's characterization of the Steelers' tradition being over. I think this was Big Ben kind of calling for Mike Tomlin's job.

Speaker 46 Probably for not bringing him back. Yeah.
That's my guess on it. But you have the conversation in, was it Steelers' country, Steelers Nation?

Speaker 96 Steelers Nation.

Speaker 46 They're talking about like, is this the last year for Mediocre Mike?

Speaker 90 One year left on his contract.

Speaker 46 It'll be such a sweet job if you just got hired by the Steelers because you know you've got 20 years. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Actually,

Speaker 24 that was another, to reference WDV, again, they asked me about Belichick and they're like, what do you think is going to happen there?

Speaker 98 And they're like, wouldn't it be so weird if they fired him?

Speaker 100 I was like, you guys.

Speaker 111 You guys, of course it'd be weird for you guys.

Speaker 97 You'd never get new coaches.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 69 Like the Steelers can't.

Speaker 8 what? What's that?

Speaker 132 There's been no follow-up from that.

Speaker 55 We'll get to the Patriots. Yeah, we'll get to the Patriots.

Speaker 40 Okay.

Speaker 121 But yeah, the Steelers,

Speaker 14 they have, what, three coaches in the last like 50 years?

Speaker 46 Yeah, it's like being a Supreme Court justice. Yeah.
The best job security in America. Either that or like Ben Mintz.

Speaker 89 Yeah, job for life.

Speaker 59 Job for life.

Speaker 44 But Mike Tomlin can say that.

Speaker 112 He can. Yeah.
Broncos at Lions.

Speaker 98 I'm excited for this game.

Speaker 46 It's going to be a good one.

Speaker 98 I am excited for this game.

Speaker 46 I have a spin zone for the Lions. and we talked to Jeff Saturday in a little bit, right?

Speaker 8 Yep.

Speaker 13 You're getting CeeDee Deuce back

Speaker 46 on defense. The defense that the Colts had when they sucked, and then they ended up making a Super Bowl run.
Was that the same year where Bob Sanders came back?

Speaker 70 Yeah.

Speaker 46 Changed the entire game.

Speaker 46 Just tell yourself that CeeDee Deuce is the missing link. He's Bob Sanders.
He's Bob Sanders. Dan Campbell says that he's an X-Man, the way that he's recovered.
I love that.

Speaker 46 Which is just a great term to say about somebody. Yeah.
Unless you're a female swimmer.

Speaker 46 I think that he's been... Should we edit that out? No, no, no.

Speaker 26 Let's keep it in.

Speaker 42 We're loopy.

Speaker 46 He's been medically cleared to play football, which no doctor should ever medically clear somebody to play football.

Speaker 46 If you're a good doctor, you should never be like, okay, you can go play NFL football. Yeah, here's the.
That sounds safe.

Speaker 69 Yeah, here.

Speaker 122 Take two footballs.

Speaker 4 Take two football games and call me in the morning.

Speaker 46 I'm sure you'll feel better after you play football with these injuries. But you can talk yourself into your defense improving if you get a big missing part back.

Speaker 46 I think think a lot of people thought that he would be a big upgrade on defense. So just tell yourself that.
I'm still rooting for the Lions. I want them to succeed.
I want Detroit fans to be happy.

Speaker 46 You just have to have some form of hope right now. And I feel like that might be the one to zero in on.

Speaker 58 I think the Lions are going to win this game.

Speaker 35 I think they're going to cover this game.

Speaker 61 The Lions at home, indoors, have been different. Jared Goff, indoor, he's an indoor cat.

Speaker 35 He's, you know, 5% better completion percentage, 14 touchdowns, 6 interceptions,

Speaker 71 seven and four outdoors.

Speaker 92 Everyone's been shitting on the lions. It's been really bad.
I was thinking about it more.

Speaker 23 The Bears are kind of, and Lions fans will agree with this.

Speaker 53 The Bears kind of are, do have the Lions number in the fact they don't win all the time, but they play them really tough.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 57 And so the Lions have played three out of the last four games have been division games, which are tough games to play, especially later on in the season.

Speaker 61 Teams know you so well.

Speaker 90 They went, you know, Packers, Bears, Saints, then Bears again.

Speaker 61 Now they get to play the Broncos. The Broncos aren't great against the run.

Speaker 63 I also

Speaker 18 have a stat for you.

Speaker 114 This is a nerd stat.

Speaker 18 Maybe it's my nerd stat of the week.

Speaker 26 Oh, I like that.

Speaker 46 I like that name.

Speaker 22 Should nerd stat of the week?

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 86 Nerd stat of the week.

Speaker 128 Ooh, I hate that.

Speaker 40 Oh, yeah, that was bad.

Speaker 14 From my guys at Sports Info Solutions, they have

Speaker 50 all the charts and stuff.

Speaker 63 The Lions play middle-of-the-field open defense,

Speaker 18 six most in the NFL.

Speaker 114 Russell Wilson is the third worst in the league against that.

Speaker 8 Can't throw over the middle. Too short.

Speaker 3 So I.

Speaker 46 Counterpoint, how much of that has to do with Jerry Judy not being able to catch a football?

Speaker 133 Also true.

Speaker 2 Also true.

Speaker 61 But I think this is the spot to buy back on the Lions.

Speaker 57 Like they're going to get home.

Speaker 57 They've not looked good.

Speaker 121 And I also, like, I know the Broncos are a really good story.

Speaker 61 It's incredible how they turn their season around.

Speaker 2 I still think there's a little bit of smoke and mirrors going on.

Speaker 44 I like the Lions. I think they're going to run the ball.

Speaker 98 I think Jameer Gibbs, I think it's going to be a big Jameer Gibbs game.

Speaker 46 Yeah, so since week six, the Broncos defense is first and third down percentage, first and takeaways, second in points allowed per game. Taways.
The takeaways is part of it.

Speaker 46 Second in points allowed per game. Second in touchdowns allowed per game.
Those last two stats have a lot to do also with the takeaway factor.

Speaker 46 You're not allowing points.

Speaker 26 What week was that from?

Speaker 46 Since week six. Week six.
So that's when they kind of turned it around, became these Broncos, not those Broncos.

Speaker 46 I do like the Lions indoors. I think anytime you see your quarterback wearing two gloves when it's outside,

Speaker 46 you have that feeling like, I don't think he's ready for this unless you're Teddy Bridgewater. But

Speaker 46 I do like the Lions at home in the dome. I do think that the Broncos are still going to make the playoffs, even if they lose this game, though.
I think they're back.

Speaker 46 If they win this game, and I've been fucking around with the playoff machine on ESPN all week long, it's the best piece of technology that's ever been invented.

Speaker 46 And yeah, if they win this game, they are in the playoffs as of right now. Wow.
Which is

Speaker 46 crazy to think that about the Broncos.

Speaker 18 So I just looked at the schedule that turnaround on their defense.

Speaker 40 It's been very good.

Speaker 99 I mean, Josh Allen, they played Josh Allen. They played Patrick Molmes.
He did have the flu.

Speaker 71 A couple of other games, they played DTR and smushed him, and they played Easton Stick and smushed him.

Speaker 130 So, but that's where I like, I think the Broncos are a great story.

Speaker 61 I just think this is where the Lions get right.

Speaker 46 Yeah, I tend to agree with you. I think the Broncos defense, I don't think that it's all luck.
I think that they've actually turned it around. Sean Payton

Speaker 115 of the year? Yeah.

Speaker 46 Comeback coach of the year. He might be.

Speaker 53 But they have to turn the ball over, which Jared's got to do better.

Speaker 98 You know, he's had a couple rough games where he's been throwing picks.

Speaker 35 I feel like, though, they're going to run the ball a lot, maybe some easy passes to Jameer Gibbs, get him out in space.

Speaker 74 I'm going lines.

Speaker 26 All right, nerd nugget.

Speaker 127 Reminder about the baby bump, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 87 Okay.

Speaker 94 Having a baby. Okay.

Speaker 127 For the first time, you know, why the body was pregnant.

Speaker 40 Why the buddy pregnant? Yeah.

Speaker 75 What?

Speaker 127 Russell Wilson. He played pregnant?

Speaker 46 That's really impressive. That's like like Serena winning whatever.

Speaker 50 Maybe I'm on the Broncos now.

Speaker 23 They've turned around all this time.

Speaker 100 He was in his third trimester.

Speaker 44 Pretty impressive.

Speaker 127 Serena Williams won an Australia Open.

Speaker 42 Siara had a baby.

Speaker 75 Yes.

Speaker 71 Let's show respect to the mother.

Speaker 46 What was that look for, Hank?

Speaker 46 Hank?

Speaker 46 Siara?

Speaker 124 She had a baby.

Speaker 85 No, it's Serena Williams.

Speaker 47 Oh.

Speaker 7 Wasn't that an unfair advantage?

Speaker 85 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 46 So

Speaker 46 that was one of the first examples of us being so wrong that we were actually right about a take when we said that being her being pregnant was a competitive advantage because when a woman's pregnant they don't menstruate anymore so they hang on to all that blood keep all that blood for themselves and then actually a study came out there was like a legitimate article that said that their red blood cell count increases when they're pregnant making oxygen travel around like more efficiently in the body.

Speaker 46 I don't know if that has anything to do with the period or not, but we were technically right about that.

Speaker 135 Yeah, we were.

Speaker 46 We nailed it. We know combo.
We nailed it.

Speaker 57 We nailed it.

Speaker 87 Dude, we're combo kings.

Speaker 87 Anyways,

Speaker 127 for the first time in NFL.

Speaker 26 We're a double combo. Yeah.

Speaker 46 Two for one.

Speaker 127 For the first time in NFL history, a team has had a rookie running back and rookie tight end each produced 700 plus scrimmage yards in a single season, running back Jameer Gibbs and tight end Sam Laporta.

Speaker 134 Okay.

Speaker 58 All right.

Speaker 62 Sunday.

Speaker 39 Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

Speaker 6 Bucs versus Packers, which we were just saying was a very big swing game in the playoff picture.

Speaker 70 Bucks at Packers.

Speaker 75 Hmm. Hmm.

Speaker 94 I like the Bucs in this game.

Speaker 13 I think it's Packers.

Speaker 46 I like the Bucs in this game. The Packers are missing A.J.
Dillon. He broke his thumb.
Aaron Jones might be back. He could be back.
He could be back. A.J.

Speaker 46 Dillon's been pretty good, and he has a pretty much broken thumb. LaFleur won't confirm or deny how broken his thumb is, meaning it's probably broken.
Okay. That's what I took from that.

Speaker 46 And Christian Watson, is he going to play?

Speaker 131 I don't know.

Speaker 100 So here's my case for the Packers.

Speaker 79 The

Speaker 86 Packers, the Bucs defense is pretty banged up.

Speaker 109 They've had a ton of injuries. I think some guys are coming back, but they've had a ton of injuries.

Speaker 107 And I think that there's something that LaFleur can do in the middle of the field because they've had a bunch of linebacker injuries.

Speaker 61 I also think that the weakness of the Green Bay defense is the run defense, and the Bucs aren't the best running game.

Speaker 6 And then here's the big one for me.

Speaker 28 I went back and I looked and I was like, let me just look at what the Bucs have been doing this season because I know, you know, they started out hot and then they've cooled off.

Speaker 101 So they have three wins outside of the NFC South.

Speaker 119 Three wins outside of the NFC South.

Speaker 14 Week one against the Vikings, who remember started, what, 0-3, 0-4.

Speaker 6 Week two against the Bears. That's September Bears, one of the worst teams ever.

Speaker 61 And week nine against the Titans.

Speaker 106 Not exactly the best teams.

Speaker 46 No.

Speaker 115 So I don't know.

Speaker 46 So this is going to tell us what Green Bay is.

Speaker 124 Right.

Speaker 49 It will tell us what Green Bay is.

Speaker 93 And my guess is that Green Bay is better than the week one Vikings, the Week 2 Bears, and the Titans.

Speaker 46 Well, their defense stinks. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Tommy DeVito carved them up.

Speaker 61 I know. They need to.

Speaker 106 If the Packers are going to play well, because they had that two-game stretch, or they were playing well for a while, but the Lions Chiefs stretch.

Speaker 61 Yeah, I think that's right.

Speaker 82 Was it Lions Chiefs back-to-back?

Speaker 107 They were getting their defensive line was playing really well.

Speaker 90 Like the guys in the middle, Kenny Clark, who I think Packers fans don't like because he's the classic, all hype, and then pay him a lot of money, and then he'll have like a couple really good games, then no-show a bunch of games.

Speaker 42 But that's going to be the key:

Speaker 24 their defensive line has to get after Baker Mayfield because you saw it on Monday night, Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 57 Like, they weren't doing anything.

Speaker 46 He had no sacks, he had 80% completion percentage, and I think he ran for 75 yards.

Speaker 46 He might have been the first quarterback to like ever do that

Speaker 46 as a rookie who's undrafted. So

Speaker 46 I think the defense is sus to me. Very sus.

Speaker 46 LaFleur against Bulls is another thing I'm thinking of. I think LaFleur is a much better coach.
I would agree. Much, much better coach.

Speaker 85 But I still

Speaker 57 could really do anything against Bulls.

Speaker 46 I think I like Tampa Bay in this game.

Speaker 124 The Battle of the Bays.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 24 This is the classic Mike Sherman, Warren Sapp, put a jersey on.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 18 When Warren Sapp blindsided Chad Clifton and broke his leg, and then afterwards, Mike Sherman was like, that was bullshit.

Speaker 24 And Warren Sapp just stood in the middle of the field, like, put a jersey on.

Speaker 13 All-time comeback.

Speaker 46 It's also the Matt LaFleur field goal game. You might get some PTSD on that.
Yeah.

Speaker 113 Let's keep it to football numbers, Matt.

Speaker 107 Yeah.

Speaker 58 Let's go sevens and threes.

Speaker 85 Please do. The whole time.

Speaker 2 Let's never get to eight.

Speaker 46 I had a thought about this, about this whole division with the NFC South. Obviously, I think we still agree that the coach, every coach that does not win the division will probably be fired

Speaker 46 next year. Baker Mayfield,

Speaker 46 has Baker Mayfield played good enough this year to earn himself a spot as a starter moving forward? Yes. I think he might be best.

Speaker 46 I think there's not enough talk about Baker Mayfield being comeback player of the year. Yes.

Speaker 7 That's not happening.

Speaker 46 Yes. You think it's DeMar? Well, yeah.

Speaker 39 DeMar, remember,

Speaker 90 he got in for that one special teams play.

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 46 But it's got to be.

Speaker 87 Tua.

Speaker 21 Russell Wilson.

Speaker 137 Tua. Damar.
Fingers, yeah.

Speaker 46 It's harder to have.

Speaker 99 I mean, why could I guess it happened in the playoffs?

Speaker 24 Brock Purdy?

Speaker 46 Yeah. I mean, that's legit.
Yeah. It could be.
But with a player like Russell Wilson, you're just giving him comeback player of the year year because he sucked last year.

Speaker 8 Wait, we're wrong about all this.

Speaker 18 Did you guys see Aaron Rodgers practice today?

Speaker 118 Yeah.

Speaker 13 That's basically a game.

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 46 I agree. No, actually, we should give it to him.
I've got a juicy little future on him.

Speaker 17 And Barcelon Sports tweeted it.

Speaker 35 Aaron Rodgers is not even human.

Speaker 128 Okay.

Speaker 35 I'd actually say missing the entire season because you got injured is the most human thing ever.

Speaker 46 Well, was he injured?

Speaker 8 Scenes. That was, I mean,

Speaker 116 he's literally showing that he's human.

Speaker 52 Was he injured? The fact that he hasn't been playing.

Speaker 46 Was he actually injured to begin with?

Speaker 52 Yeah, it's a good question.

Speaker 39 Okay, nerd nugget for Bucks Packers.

Speaker 127 Via Greg Allman. Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 8 So we're giving out credit now?

Speaker 127 Well, sometimes. Sometimes I get him from the notes.
Sometimes I get them from actual people.

Speaker 47 Oh, okay.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 127 Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield has played at Lambeau Field in each of the last two years, also both in December. With the Browns on Christmas Day in 2021, he lost throwing four interceptions.

Speaker 127 With the Rams last year,

Speaker 127 he lost and was sacked five times.

Speaker 114 Yeah, unlike Lambeau.

Speaker 57 So So that was Greg Allman's Nerd Nugget of the Week.

Speaker 46 That might be my Nerd Nugget of the Week this week.

Speaker 4 Well, it's Greg Allman's because he only has the money.

Speaker 94 He covers the books.

Speaker 133 He covers the books.

Speaker 117 How do you spell his last name?

Speaker 42 Is it Greg Allman?

Speaker 46 A-U-M-N. Is it Allman, brother?

Speaker 85 No, A-U.

Speaker 43 Oh, okay.

Speaker 70 It's Alman.

Speaker 8 Owlman.

Speaker 11 Owlman.

Speaker 46 That's actually Bird Nugget of the Week.

Speaker 102 Does he have a Tootsie Pop in his hand?

Speaker 133 No. Okay.

Speaker 18 That was probably dated me really bad.

Speaker 46 No, I get it. Yeah, well,

Speaker 118 how many licks does that thing?

Speaker 90 I'm only one day older than you.

Speaker 46 Yeah, you are fucking old.

Speaker 129 I know what Tutsie Pop is.

Speaker 24 No, I know the commercial. The owls.

Speaker 8 One, two.

Speaker 8 You know what?

Speaker 46 A good joke would be if you said Greg Owlman, and then we said who? Yeah. You said owlman.

Speaker 87 Who?

Speaker 46 That'd be a good joke. Follow that away for loopy episode.

Speaker 18 Loopy episode, folks.

Speaker 15 Hank, you writing this shit down?

Speaker 98 That was a bit that you could use.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 108 Dude, hey guys, we got any owl men out there? Who?

Speaker 87 Who?

Speaker 13 Dude, owls rock.

Speaker 71 What if you did an hour of just straight up, like, anyone here from Detroit?

Speaker 108 Anyone here from Sacramento and just did every city in America?

Speaker 8 That's actually not a bad idea.

Speaker 26 All right, no one from Sacramento?

Speaker 94 Cut this.

Speaker 83 Let's try San Jose.

Speaker 97 We'll cut this.

Speaker 87 Albuquerque in the house.

Speaker 8 All right.

Speaker 70 Next game, Bears at Browns.

Speaker 14 I've dubbed this gateway game, which makes me very nervous because I think I'm 0-4 in my life in gateway games.

Speaker 57 And when I say gateway game, it's not only a gateway game for the Bears and like what the rest of the, because if they win this game, they have the Cardinals and the Falcons at home.

Speaker 62 And you can start thinking, ooh, you know, they're getting spicy.

Speaker 113 It's also a gateway game for my happiness.

Speaker 39 I am very, very excited for this game.

Speaker 28 If the Bears win this game, I will be a very, very happy boy.

Speaker 62 It is a gateway game.

Speaker 76 And again, my record in Gateway Games, oh, for lifetime.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 67 I don't know.

Speaker 46 I kind of like the Bears this weekend. I really do.

Speaker 46 There's another guy that got banged up on the Browns defense.

Speaker 53 They've lost.

Speaker 114 So this week they lost Grant Delpitt, who is their leading tackler, and then Naronquo, who's their second and sack.

Speaker 46 Naronquo was great. There was actually a great quote from Jim Schwartz about the injury that he had because he had a pectoral chair, and he played through it on one arm.

Speaker 46 And Jim Schwartz said, I went back and watched the film and almost threw up.

Speaker 87 Oh, wow.

Speaker 46 He almost puked.

Speaker 109 That would have made him football pussy of the week if Jim Schwartz had puked.

Speaker 46 Make your coach puke. Yeah.
That's actually a badass move, though, to make your coach puke.

Speaker 105 And then Denzel Ward's been out for a few weeks now, and it feels like he's playing the game of is he back, is he not, every week.

Speaker 46 Yeah, I kind of like the Bears this weekend. I know it sounds crazy to say.
The Browns have looked okay the last couple weeks. Flacco just got that contract.
He got paid. He gets paid for every win.

Speaker 46 He gets a $75,000 bonus per win. And then the playoffs, I think it goes to like $100,000, $250,000, $500,000, and then I think it's $2 million.

Speaker 98 They should have made that a billion.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 61 Like, Jimmy Haslam should have been like, you now own, what is a pilot?

Speaker 46 A Flying J. Flying J.

Speaker 61 You own Flying J if the Browns win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 104 That would be a great thing.

Speaker 53 That would have been a great, that would have been a great incentive.

Speaker 46 Also, a great nickname for Joe Flacco. Yeah.

Speaker 26 Flying J.

Speaker 112 Yeah.

Speaker 112 Okay.

Speaker 100 I'm nervous about this game because I have flashbacks.

Speaker 74 We all watched, I think we watched this game together.

Speaker 92 We were in, it might not have been everyone here.

Speaker 26 We were in Aurora for a deal with Penn where we did a watch party and we did a, remember we did a promo?

Speaker 14 It was 1985, last time the Bears won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 90 I don't know if anyone knows that year.

Speaker 24 We did a promo that if you bet $1 on the Bears against the Browns,

Speaker 80 you would get $1,985.

Speaker 107 And

Speaker 90 it was a promo that was like, I remember it was one of the first big promos to do with Penn and they're like, if so many people have bet this, that if the Bears cover, like we might all be out of jobs.

Speaker 18 It was the game that Justin Fields, I think, got sacked seven times.

Speaker 15 It was his first start, and they scored six points, and he looked absolutely miserable.

Speaker 72 He was six for 20 for 68 yards.

Speaker 119 So yeah, this is the Bears had 47 total yards in that game.

Speaker 26 So yeah, I'm a little nervous about this game.

Speaker 103 I have that flying in my head.

Speaker 2 I'm like, the last time I saw the Bears on this field, it was the worst game I've ever watched.

Speaker 46 You do have full permission, though, to just be like, Bears are back if they win this. Oh, if they get, if they get to six and eight.

Speaker 58 If the Bears win win this game,

Speaker 40 they don't control their destiny, but the fact that they play the Falcons and Cardinals at home and then the Packers week 18, like they could be in a similar spot to what the Lions were last year.

Speaker 46 I want you to do a visualization technique with me here. Imagine it's the last week of the season.
Justin Fields

Speaker 46 beats the Packers. You get into the playoffs.

Speaker 46 Then you get smoked first round of the playoffs

Speaker 85 by the Eagles.

Speaker 85 Yeah, think about that.

Speaker 8 The Eagles can't run the ball on the Bears.

Speaker 46 You get smoked up.

Speaker 39 No chance you can run the ball on the Bears.

Speaker 46 And then Max gets the biggest revenge of his entire career on you.

Speaker 121 It wouldn't.

Speaker 100 So if that happens, I don't actually think it would be the biggest revenge because one, the Eagles would still have to win three more games to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 93 And two,

Speaker 113 if that happens, I will be playing with so much house money at that point that Max will be in a spot where, like, if he loses, his life is over.

Speaker 98 It'll be terrifying.

Speaker 126 Yeah, it's not a win. Yeah, there's no win for me.

Speaker 74 And if he wins, it's like, like well dude it was the bears they were four and eight a month ago so i i will sign up for that i would not sign up for that yeah he matt that would be a hundred percent pressure on max like maybe one percent pressure on me but there would be zero press like yeah zero it's house money if they win the game and you would be like all right we made it to the playoffs and we beat the packers and if you fucking beat me i would that would actually be a moment

Speaker 124 where i wouldn't come into work yeah but if you do no you wouldn't be able to but yeah also have to not be aftermath to that game we'd already be at work if you made the playoffs if you lose in the playoffs you probably keep justin fields next year i still think it's on the table that i listen we we had a we had a debate yesterday on on on the old xvideos.com uh the financials still make sense to to start with a rookie and and build a defense and everything so what about this what about keeping justin fields around next year as a backup I don't think that makes much sense.

Speaker 46 You don't think so? He's still cheap?

Speaker 90 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 46 Because I think you have to decide on his fifth-year options like this spring. You would have to decide, yeah, this year.
So you decline the fifth-year option.

Speaker 35 Maybe you keep him as a backup.

Speaker 46 Keep him as a backup. And then maybe his value grows

Speaker 46 in the year where he doesn't play.

Speaker 61 Either way, this is a gateway game.

Speaker 24 I'm very nervous.

Speaker 18 It's the first Bears game since week one against the Packers this year where my hopes are as high as they could be and the potential for disaster are as even higher.

Speaker 46 Yeah, I'd be concerned about Flacco getting beaten up by the Bears defense.

Speaker 21 Well, we'll see. I don't want to hurt him.

Speaker 46 No, you can't hurt Flacco.

Speaker 51 That's true.

Speaker 58 You can't hurt him. Nerd nugget.

Speaker 127 The Bears are a juggernaut on the ground when it comes to big runs. Chicago has 57 rushes of 10-plus yards this season, which leads the NFL.

Speaker 8 Oh, all right.

Speaker 24 I also think there's going to be a big DJ Moore and Justin Fields with his legs. Man coverage.

Speaker 90 Browns are heavy man coverage.

Speaker 71 DJ Moore's a beast man coverage.

Speaker 35 So

Speaker 51 if you're looking for something, that's my thoughts.

Speaker 44 Okay, next game, a game that no one should bet, but it's happening because no one knows what's going to happen with all these injuries.

Speaker 62 Texans, the Titans.

Speaker 83 Is CJ Stroud going to play?

Speaker 15 Probably not.

Speaker 46 I mean, we should have learned from our mistake with the Texans last time as a group. My guess is that he's not going to play because he's in the practice today.

Speaker 69 So it could be Case Keenum.

Speaker 61 Yeah. It's Davis Mills or Case Keenum.

Speaker 46 Can't believe Case Keenum's still around.

Speaker 73 Yep.

Speaker 29 Nico Collins probably out, I would assume.

Speaker 46 I think so. Speaker officially out.
Yes.

Speaker 61 Are you sure yes okay mechie playing um this is one of those games where i would love love love to take uh the texans because you have the titans coming off a big monday night win the the texans coming off a horrific game against the jets it's a clear like hey just swap them but without cj stroud and The titans are wearing the Oilers uniforms.

Speaker 46 The thing is, they're wearing the throwbacks. We said at the start of the year, the winner of this game should get to wear the Houston Oilers.

Speaker 8 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 74 Taylor Wan actually tweeted that.

Speaker 46 Oh, he did? Yeah, yesterday. He tweeted that before me yesterday.

Speaker 87 Damn.

Speaker 8 Did he really?

Speaker 46 It's a good take. Good take, Taylor.
Yeah. You did it.
Was that on the bus?

Speaker 136 No, he tweeted it.

Speaker 85 Okay. Yeah, he tweeted it.

Speaker 46 It's a good take. I mean, sometimes you got to take your hat off and see what it is.

Speaker 40 He also, though,

Speaker 2 I felt bad for him because Titans fans

Speaker 65 jumped down his throat because they're like, fuck that.

Speaker 113 We know that they're not actually going to play for a jersey.

Speaker 61 We're just speaking in hypotheticals.

Speaker 2 So I back up Taylor in that respect.

Speaker 46 We're speaking as fans. Yeah.
And we understand what happened with the franchise moving and the franchise that moves gets to keep all

Speaker 46 intellectual property. Right.
And the Texans spring up as an expansion team. I'm just saying there's nothing in Tennessee about oil.
No. That's Houston.

Speaker 46 And also, you had so many iconic players that played in those uniforms in Houston. It feels like it should be a Houston uniform.

Speaker 40 The Texans should just like fight fire with fire.

Speaker 105 And when they come to Tennessee and they wear these oiler uniforms, they should just wear like a guitar on their helmet.

Speaker 70 Taylor Swift.

Speaker 85 Yeah, Bluegrass.

Speaker 97 We're We're the Houston Bluegrass.

Speaker 46 Yeah, the Country Boys from Texas.

Speaker 57 Okay, Nerd Nugget.

Speaker 127 Titans running back Derrick Henry has scored two touchdowns in each of the last three games and can set the franchise record by recording his fourth consecutive game with at least two rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 127 He'd become the eighth NFL player since the 1970 merger to accomplish that.

Speaker 87 Wow.

Speaker 46 Tractorcito season.

Speaker 100 Tractorcito season.

Speaker 124 All right, next up, Jets at Dolphins.

Speaker 99 Dolphins' offensive line's a mess.

Speaker 46 Could this be a get-right game for the Dolphins?

Speaker 90 I don't think so.

Speaker 46 Their Their offensive line is banged up. I think they're down three starters, right? Yeah.
And the Jets. Four, maybe.
The Jets' defense is good. Very good.

Speaker 46 And I think they might be looking at this game. So if you're the Jets and you've had a bad season, you've lost a lot of really shitty games where your offense couldn't do shit.

Speaker 46 We've talked about how the defense at some point has to be like, I'm tired of this shit. I'm sick of this shit.
I'm tired of this shit. Yep.

Speaker 46 When you play against a good team that's got all the accolades and a team that people are talking about as being possibly Super Bowl contenders, I I feel like that's a good natural shot in the arm for the Jets defense to go out there and have something to prove.

Speaker 24 Also, I think the Jets defense got a little bounce back in their step last week when Zach Wilson showed to be competent.

Speaker 46 Yeah, he's really good now.

Speaker 98 Like, you get at least, maybe the play is actually Jets' first half because the...

Speaker 99 They're going off of what Zach Wilson looked like in the second half last week.

Speaker 98 So they're like, oh, he's going to be good. It might take a half for them to be like, no, he's still Zach Wilson.

Speaker 46 Zach Wilson again. Yeah.

Speaker 46 That might be the play.

Speaker 46 I like the Dolphins in this situation. I feel like Zach Wilson coming back to Earth.

Speaker 40 That's a safe bet.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 46 Memes. Historically, a very safe bet.

Speaker 100 Memes, Jets win this, Rogers?

Speaker 46 If Jets win this, we're all the way back.

Speaker 46 I've created a path to the playoffs for the Jets.

Speaker 26 Okay, go on.

Speaker 53 The worst part about me asking memes this is that I'm laughing at them, but it's no different than when I talk about the Bears.

Speaker 42 We're both 5-8.

Speaker 107 Yeah, but the NFC is more.

Speaker 91 What, Max?

Speaker 126 Every team in the AFC is 7-6. No team in the NFC is 7-6.

Speaker 122 Oh, yeah, they're what?

Speaker 42 All 6-7? All 6-7.

Speaker 8 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 85 So you have a game close.

Speaker 8 Memes is.

Speaker 73 There's a 0.05%

Speaker 126 chance that the Jets make the playoffs. And Memes is acting like it's 50-50.

Speaker 60 Okay, so you're right.

Speaker 108 Thank you, Max.

Speaker 26 So I'm crazy.

Speaker 106 I'm crazy.

Speaker 22 Well, yeah, but there's a lot of six and seven teams.

Speaker 39 I'm crazy, but I'm not as crazy as Memes.

Speaker 35 Thank you, Max.

Speaker 110 Memes, give us the path.

Speaker 85 So if one of the.

Speaker 108 Does any team have to get hit, like, like have a plane crash?

Speaker 87 No, Mac. I literally said that.

Speaker 26 I literally said that this morning. All right, good, good, good, good.

Speaker 85 All right.

Speaker 121 It would be great if

Speaker 69 he went through all the iterations.

Speaker 62 He's like, and the Chiefs have to all get kidnapped.

Speaker 26 If the Buffalo Bills flight runs into a building.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 46 So the third playoff spot needs to finish, have seven wins by the end of this week. So the Jets have to beat the Dolphins.

Speaker 107 Okay.

Speaker 46 The winner of Steelers Colts will be eight wins.

Speaker 107 So hoping the Colts win that one.

Speaker 47 Okay.

Speaker 107 Lions beat the Broncos.

Speaker 46 Okay. Vikings have to beat the Bengals.
Okay. Bears have to beat the Browns.

Speaker 120 Wait, are we doing this for every week?

Speaker 129 Yeah.

Speaker 107 Well, no, no, no. Just week 15.

Speaker 25 Okay. All right.

Speaker 46 Just play what's in front of you. Yeah.
Titans beat the Texans. Cowboys beat the Bills.

Speaker 100 All right, send me that because I'll put it in as a parlay for you.

Speaker 46 Okay, and then teams most likely to fuck up this path are the Bengals and the Jets. I'm looking at that graph that I talked about.

Speaker 121 You really kind of buried the lead there.

Speaker 46 When it comes to the graph on how your playoff percentages increase or decrease based on this game, it looks like with a win, the Jets' playoff percentage increases by, this looks like 1%.

Speaker 13 Oh.

Speaker 46 Yeah, so

Speaker 46 you're taking baby steps. Actually, memes, you know what you should do? Just say, like, if the Jets make the playoffs and Aaron Rodgers starts, you'll do ayahuasca.

Speaker 47 In.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 105 It is funny.

Speaker 99 I just looked up the standings and the Jets are in 14th place

Speaker 61 out of 16 teams.

Speaker 46 Best team in the NFC.

Speaker 139 It's spoiler season and could be backseason.

Speaker 90 Oh, man.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 23 Next game up.

Speaker 112 Oh, nerd nugget.

Speaker 127 This is the first time in Dolphins' history that Miami's recorded a pick six in three consecutive games.

Speaker 127 If they can do it again on Sunday against the Jets, they joined the 2002 Bucs as the only teams in the NFL since 2000 to have a pick six in four straight games.

Speaker 129 Wow. Okay.

Speaker 47 All right.

Speaker 107 Next game.

Speaker 83 Chiefs at Patriots.

Speaker 18 Belichick.

Speaker 46 Yeah, Belichick news. So as a Patriots, is there news or reports?

Speaker 52 Well, you reported on it on Wednesday's show.

Speaker 43 People heard that?

Speaker 47 I reported on the report.

Speaker 71 You get a lot of tweets about that?

Speaker 75 I don't know.

Speaker 87 Oh.

Speaker 128 Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 128 As

Speaker 46 a Patriots fan on this podcast, I'm just going to say that that seems like fake news to me. Seems like a fake news media report from Tom Curran.

Speaker 46 You know, the media has been out to get us since 2000, it feels like.

Speaker 46 Why did you do the report on it? At the start.

Speaker 87 Oh, yeah, we should have PFT do the report.

Speaker 46 At the start, it was, okay, going back to the beginning, it was like, oh, you're videotaping your opponent's practices illegally and then using that material to game plan for them.

Speaker 46 The fake news media was wrong about that. Then there was...

Speaker 46 They were right about it. No, they hate us because they ain't us.
Oh, Hank, you're doing fanfic.

Speaker 26 Listen to them.

Speaker 8 They weren't right about that. Okay.

Speaker 46 Belichick didn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 46 I can't believe that you're going against my Patriots like this.

Speaker 46 So they were wrong about that. Then after that, there was the tuck rule, right? The tuck rule, everybody knows that was bullshit.
That was a great call by the refs. After that.

Speaker 8 That benefited the Patriots.

Speaker 46 No, I'm just saying, but then people complained about the tuck rule and said, oh, the Patriots are cheating again.

Speaker 46 I'm just saying, like, the news media has been against us for so long, like what you're saying right now. Everybody hated the Patriots after that call.
They thought that it was bullshit. It wasn't.

Speaker 46 It was a good rule.

Speaker 7 Was it after that call or after they won the second and then third Super Bowl?

Speaker 46 Okay, well, then, yeah, that went right along with the whole videotaping practices thing. That was hand in hand.

Speaker 46 Then there was Aaron Hernandez killing a bunch of people, and people were like, oh, the Patriots are back at the organization for that.

Speaker 46 Then there was Julian Edelman getting his drink spiked by something, and everyone came at us and said, oh, the Patriots are running real loose ship around here.

Speaker 46 Okay, what's going on with with that then there was messing with the injury report and like brandon spikes and being like oh you guys are cheating that way and then after that it was oh you're with the in-game communications between mike tomlin and his players on the field on the sideline that was also fake that was fake news then there was deflate gate oh tom brady's cheating by deflating all these balls then there was uh robert kraft getting sucked off at the day spa no Jerked off.

Speaker 46 Allegedly.

Speaker 46 Okay, there was mouth contact. It might have just been a tongue.
But then that was a bunch of bullshit, too. They were just coming at us for that.

Speaker 46 Then there was the fake lighthouse thing that everybody got upset about. I don't care.
Now this.

Speaker 26 Wait, you forgot one. Then Belichick had that booty call at that girl's house.

Speaker 46 Oh, yeah, Belichick, shirtless, walk of shame, slut shaming our head coach, Bill Belichick. And then now this is just another brick in the wall.
And we're brick by brick. We're defending the wall.

Speaker 46 This is our Patriots. They hate us because they ain't us.
And this is just a normal report that I would expect from the fake news media.

Speaker 2 Hank, as a Cowboys fan, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, some of those things I thought were facts. Some of them I agree that they're rumors and speculation and nonsense scuttlebutt.

Speaker 97 What about the

Speaker 35 mouth versus hand situation with Kraft?

Speaker 132 He's probably doing it all. Okay.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's our guy. That's what Jerry would do.

Speaker 46 That's our guy.

Speaker 46 Robert Kraft, Mr. Positions.
That's what Jerry would do.

Speaker 7 That's just a sign of a great owner. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 13 Your guy, Jerry.

Speaker 46 He definitely would. No, Jerry would go anal.

Speaker 85 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 46 He goes anal. He wouldn't get the massage.
But yeah, the report that came out on Tuesday night was that that Patriots expected to move on from Belichick.

Speaker 46 That had been reported, or it had been discussed after the Germany game. We all remember that one where Mac Jones threw the worst interception of all time.
And yeah, Mr. Kraft was embarrassed.

Speaker 46 Belichick said, okay, well, then we're done here.

Speaker 85 Do you believe it?

Speaker 46 No, as a Patriots fan, there's no chance.

Speaker 13 Zero?

Speaker 46 Zero percent chance. I don't think Belichick would leave.
I think the Patriots might win this game.

Speaker 85 Spoiler.

Speaker 46 Spoiler. Spoil it for the Chiefs.

Speaker 118 And then.

Speaker 46 Oh, it'd be kind of crazy, too, because then. Well, remember when

Speaker 7 the Patriots beat the Chiefs opening night and they called

Speaker 71 the Chiefs beat the Patriots.

Speaker 7 But the guy was out of bounds. They called him out of bounds when he wasn't.

Speaker 99 Oh, I thought you were talking about the time when

Speaker 102 Trent Dilfer was like, it's over. Yeah.

Speaker 7 That was

Speaker 7 Goodell night. The Keel Harry.

Speaker 127 That was Monday night game.

Speaker 7 The Keel Harry was recently the,

Speaker 7 I believe that was the night everyone had the Goodell towels.

Speaker 125 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 40 That was when Dave cried.

Speaker 7 And Feidelberg was like, enjoy your heirlooms or whatever.

Speaker 73 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 79 That's right.

Speaker 80 PFT knows all that.

Speaker 78 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 46 This is like, I've lived in and breathed it. It's like same, they run the same playbook against the Patriots every year.
Oh, here's another story just to make us look bad. And then guess what we do?

Speaker 46 We respond. We win Super Bowls.

Speaker 71 I don't think they're going to win this week.

Speaker 8 Well,

Speaker 8 you're a hater.

Speaker 97 I agree.

Speaker 74 I think the Chiefs are going to win.

Speaker 114 I think the Chiefs are going to get right.

Speaker 7 The NFL needs the Chiefs to win.

Speaker 47 Oh.

Speaker 7 And so I think that's going to play a factor, as it usually does when these two teams match up.

Speaker 7 Sometimes the Patriots overcome. Sometimes they have no choice but not to.

Speaker 7 But I think if it's close, the Chiefs are winning this.

Speaker 124 They might lose by 30.

Speaker 18 I think the Chiefs are going to win this game because

Speaker 98 that Patriots Steelers game, like Bailey Zappi was incredible for two quarters.

Speaker 89 And then they went right back to the Patriots' offense.

Speaker 105 Not good.

Speaker 46 They just built up a big enough league. Right.

Speaker 46 Okay, but we forget that.

Speaker 85 We're like, Bailey Zappi played good last week.

Speaker 18 Yeah, right.

Speaker 21 So I think this is like everyone in the Chiefs, you know, locker rooms, like, we have to win this game easily because this is time.

Speaker 99 It's time.

Speaker 46 How sick would it be if Travis Kelsey did the lateral again this week? That would be sick. It'd be great.
Get that ball to Canton. Yeah.
That's a high late.

Speaker 63 Kadarius Tony would probably be offsides again.

Speaker 46 Kadarius Tony. And where's he going to line up?

Speaker 26 Is he going to line up in the backfield every game? Every day?

Speaker 46 Yeah, they should tell him, do not, you're never on the line of scrimmage. he might line up uh you know in kansas city because they won't bring him on the plane that would be a smart move yes uh

Speaker 11 so you think the patriots are gonna lose yeah they'll lose close oh so hungry dog

Speaker 114 hungry dogs for winners oh okay so have you won it a lot yeah

Speaker 7 historically

Speaker 62 all right juju revenge game too yeah juju revenge game double back to back still waiting for his knee to explode yeah at any second you should get that knee explode it's a revenge tour yeah yeah it is uh okay nerd nugget.

Speaker 127 I actually have a theory to Hank's point. I think the NFL.

Speaker 75 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, nerd theory.

Speaker 128 Okay, theory.

Speaker 7 Stephen Hawking?

Speaker 127 I think if the NFL wanted anything, they should want the Chiefs not to get the buy because that's one extra game of ratings for the Swifties and Super Wildcard weekend.

Speaker 46 Good point. Good point.
Well, that would explain why they didn't ask Al Michaels.

Speaker 88 to do that game

Speaker 46 because when on Thursday night football, you remember Al Michaels was against Taylor Swift?

Speaker 46 He was like, listen, we're going to show her, but we're not going to make her the main story because she's not the main story. Football is the main story.

Speaker 18 I thought it was because Al Michaels and Taylor Swift can never be in the same building.

Speaker 35 Otherwise, they'd fuck.

Speaker 46 The attraction is too high.

Speaker 21 I don't want to say how,

Speaker 118 but they would. They would.

Speaker 91 They would.

Speaker 46 But yeah, Al Michaels, there's a theory out there that Al Michaels was asked to step aside because he wasn't playing ball with them asking to put Taylor Swift on the broadcast.

Speaker 95 I'm not aware of that.

Speaker 133 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 61 Well, that's theory. We're going theory for theory.

Speaker 128 That's true. It's fair.
Theory.

Speaker 127 Chiefs wide receiver Rashi Rice has six receiving touchdowns this season. With one more, he can break the tie with four other former Chiefs for most touchdown receptions in a player's rookie season.

Speaker 7 Rice has got to be the best receiver last name.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Ever.

Speaker 75 Yeah.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Did they, did that nerd nugget come directly from the Chiefs wide receiver locker room?

Speaker 127 It was from Chiefs' game notes. Yeah.

Speaker 35 I mean, their wide receivers stink.

Speaker 46 You're pretty bad.

Speaker 21 Here's the one-one.

Speaker 46 Whose wide receivers are worse in this game? The Chiefs or the Patriots?

Speaker 46 Both pretty bad.

Speaker 94 Is Devontae Parker on the Patriots still?

Speaker 8 Is he playing? Yeah.

Speaker 73 I think he caught some balls.

Speaker 57 I forgot about him.

Speaker 46 He's probably the best receiver on the field, right?

Speaker 127 He has a few former Dolphins. They have Gesicki, Devontae.

Speaker 133 Yeah, Henry.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 46 He's a tight end.

Speaker 62 Next game.

Speaker 35 Giants and Saints.

Speaker 46 Does it catch the ball? You don't know anything about our roster.

Speaker 111 Giants and Saints.

Speaker 137 I'm in on Tommy DeVito on this game.

Speaker 46 You have no choice but to root for Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 100 I was thinking about it too, PFD.

Speaker 105 I was looking back because I know that Panther Saints game was hard for you with every touchdown bet.

Speaker 2 That was a 14-6 game.

Speaker 138 The Panthers outgained the Saints by 100 yards.

Speaker 46 That's what was so frustrating because they had every chance to score a touchdown and they just wouldn't. Right.

Speaker 113 So then you look at the box score and you're like, oh, they beat the Panthers 28-6.

Speaker 98 They killed them.

Speaker 43 Saints are right.

Speaker 97 No, no, no. The Saints are not right.

Speaker 61 There's nothing right about the Saints right now.

Speaker 83 And you're going to lay six points? Yeah.

Speaker 124 Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 125 They're broken. Yeah.

Speaker 46 Broken franchise.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 124 So, yeah,

Speaker 11 you have to.

Speaker 46 You can't root against the Tommy DeVito moment that's happening right now.

Speaker 46 If you're a Saints fan, and I honestly think that a lot of Saints fans would rather them not win these games because it delays an inevitable explosion of the team. But

Speaker 46 if you're anybody besides a Saints fan, you have no excuse to be rooting for the Saints this weekend. Extend the Tommy DeVito story.
It's fun. Let us have this fun little blip.

Speaker 61 The only people who can root against Tommy DeVito are Saints fans.

Speaker 92 And then if you are late to the Tommy DeVito party, because like I was talking to Dave, he had the Packers on Monday night football, and he was like, I want to take the Giants here, but I'm late to the party.

Speaker 115 Because you can't switch.

Speaker 81 If the train starts going, if the narrative train starts going and you missed the first two stops, you jump on that, that train crashes off the bridge.

Speaker 46 Yeah, this would be a bad game to introduce somebody to Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 26 Right, you don't want to do that.

Speaker 46 There's a great chance that it does derail and things go haywire, but keep enjoying it. Like, let us enjoy our Tommy DeVito moment.

Speaker 46 I want this to extend.

Speaker 57 If you can't handle your Tommy DeVito at, what was it, like 17 yards?

Speaker 76 Or no, it was like minus 17.

Speaker 129 Negative yard yards, yeah.

Speaker 61 And you don't deserve him on this three-game winning streak.

Speaker 8 No, he, and he might be good.

Speaker 90 He might be good. He's going, he's going.
You know what he's going next week?

Speaker 75 What?

Speaker 74 He's got a permit.

Speaker 75 To what?

Speaker 46 Eagle hunting. Oh, shit.

Speaker 88 Yeah. Uh-oh.
Yeah.

Speaker 46 Do we know any Italian Eagles fans that would be really, really upset with that?

Speaker 114 Be torn.

Speaker 22 You should do a split jersey next week.

Speaker 126 No shot.

Speaker 2 Eagles in the Italian flag.

Speaker 8 I am not torn in the slightest.

Speaker 126 Yeah, Siriani. Siriani rocks an Italian flag

Speaker 8 every day. And Dom.

Speaker 103 We'll get to Dom in a minute.

Speaker 103 Yeah,

Speaker 24 I'm all Giants here.

Speaker 102 Probably a mistake, but once you're on the train, you don't get off.

Speaker 46 Just watching, I'm a prisoner of the moment. So on one hand, I'm rooting for Tommy DeVito.
On the other, I'm full in on the Saints offensive lineman, don't like Derek Carr.

Speaker 114 Yes, I agree with that.

Speaker 71 And we will talk more about that with Jeff Saturday because he had some good insight. We asked him a specific question about that.

Speaker 44 Okay, last early games, Falcons and Panthers.

Speaker 135 Oh boy.

Speaker 8 Ooh boy, PFT.

Speaker 98 I don't know how you can bet Desmond Ritter as a favorite on the road.

Speaker 40 But I also don't know how you can bet the Panthers.

Speaker 21 Couple things, a couple little facts from this game.

Speaker 90 One,

Speaker 2 that really cool camera that they have at the Mercedes-Benz Dome,

Speaker 53 where they've tracked the ball.

Speaker 14 They released a highlight of Desmond Ritter throwing a pass at Drake London.

Speaker 107 It was like the worst pass ever.

Speaker 46 So, our colleague Big T had a very good observation from that. Yeah.
Even Desmond Ritter's highlight throws look like they're being intercepted by his own wide receiver.

Speaker 89 That was exactly what happened.

Speaker 24 He threw it to a cornerback, and Drake London dove in front of him at the last second to catch it.

Speaker 46 Made a great play on the ball.

Speaker 124 It was crazy.

Speaker 42 It is a great camera, though. It is a great camera.

Speaker 98 Other fact about this game: if you would like to go to this game, use the Game Time app, but guess what?

Speaker 40 Ticket get-in price?

Speaker 46 $7.

Speaker 102 45 cents.

Speaker 46 What?

Speaker 8 That's like $19.50.

Speaker 46 You get a free shoe shine with that?

Speaker 87 $0.45?

Speaker 78 That's crazy.

Speaker 8 That's not real. Tepper's got

Speaker 13 pissed off about that.

Speaker 52 $0.45.

Speaker 46 If I was David Tepper, I would buy every ticket for this game

Speaker 46 just so you didn't have the embarrassment

Speaker 46 of the 45 cents. Yeah.

Speaker 57 Oh, man.

Speaker 46 That's tough. That's tough.
Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp. Bird nugget of the week.

Speaker 26 Let's go.

Speaker 133 Love it.

Speaker 46 For the Falcons.

Speaker 46 For the Falcons.

Speaker 46 Bird fact. Did you know that you can tell which way the wind is blowing by how birds are standing?

Speaker 5 Well, that would make sense, right?

Speaker 46 Birds always stand facing into the wind. Oh.

Speaker 46 They like the adversity.

Speaker 24 Yeah, they don't want to get blown away, too, because

Speaker 105 if the wind kind of gusts, then they just take off.

Speaker 46 Oh, and they're all of a sudden flying birds if you can tell if you're ever stranded in nature and you see a bird facing east then you can be like actually that wouldn't really work you just know which way the wind's blowing the yeah because a bird if you're on a golf course and there's a bunch of asshole canadian geese next to you yeah those aren't birds which way is this blowing the the the the golf ball in this shot you're like well the birds are facing that way that's where the wind's coming from the that would make sense though because if they had their ass to the wind It'd be like a car neutral.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 23 You could just roll away at any moment.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 46 It's like dogs when they're in a car. Dogs will always put their face in the wind, too.
They won't look backwards. Yeah.
Birds like the adversity.

Speaker 112 That's a fact.

Speaker 35 Yeah, I just, I like betting Desmond Ritter minus three on the road is a very scary proposition, but I don't know how you could bet the Panthers at this point.

Speaker 114 And I've tried.

Speaker 35 I've tried to bet the Panthers a few times in the last few weeks.

Speaker 46 I think I might double down on my start Andy Reid take or Andy Dalton take for the Panthers.

Speaker 8 I don't like it.

Speaker 46 Because I've talked to some Panthers fans.

Speaker 46 They don't hate the idea. A lot of them actually like the idea because I think that you're doing more harm than good to Bryce Young.

Speaker 23 They don't want to give up the first pick.

Speaker 121 Yeah.

Speaker 53 They want to win a couple games and not give up the first pick.

Speaker 81 So I like Bryce Young.

Speaker 61 You got to let the kid learn.

Speaker 46 Yeah, I think if you're a Panthers fan,

Speaker 46 you want to save everything that Bryce Young's doing. You want the real coaches to come in.
You don't want him to learn anything else that he's going to have to unlearn over this offseason.

Speaker 46 You don't want his confidence to get killed any more than it already is. You want him to get hurt, God forbid.
So just put Andy Dalton in.

Speaker 70 Yeah.

Speaker 135 Yeah.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 99 I need Bryce Young to keep losing.

Speaker 102 I like that he's losing.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 63 Take a quick break. Oh, bird nugget.

Speaker 57 Yeah, I got to reverse. No, nerd nugget.

Speaker 127 I'm going to reverse course quickly and let you know that Giants have 14 takeaways in the last five weeks, including a week 13 bye.

Speaker 39 Wait. Oh, I missed the last one?

Speaker 13 Yeah, but it's all right. I didn't want to interrupt.

Speaker 46 Okay. Thank you, Jake.

Speaker 74 Very cool.

Speaker 127 Their 14 takeaways in the last four games are the highest in a four-game span since 2012. So the Giants defense.

Speaker 115 That's actually good. Yeah.

Speaker 26 All right.

Speaker 26 I like that.

Speaker 39 That's a good one.

Speaker 127 The Panthers are wearing black helmets for the first time this season.

Speaker 46 Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.
That changes my calculus.

Speaker 127 Well, the last time they wore them, it was at home against the Falcons as well.

Speaker 95 They won 25 to 15.

Speaker 46 Black helmet game. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 46 I think I might take the Panthers.

Speaker 14 Pulling out all the stops.

Speaker 46 Their offense can't be as bad as it was last week, right? That's like impossible.

Speaker 24 No, it's been really bad for a long time.

Speaker 46 Oh, it was so bad.

Speaker 76 Yeah, it's been really bad for a long time.

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Speaker 87 Afternoon games, 49ers at Cardinals.

Speaker 18 The sneak-em-in 405-305 start.

Speaker 35 I'm going to do something dangerous, PFD.

Speaker 86 I think I'm going to bet on the Cardinals.

Speaker 46 Take the birds. I think this game is going to be over by the time the real afternoon games start.
That's what I think.

Speaker 70 The late starts.

Speaker 100 Okay, the only reason I'm going to take the Cardinals is they're coming off a bye.

Speaker 124 And I know that look-aheads don't really exist in the NFL, but if they did, the Niners are looking ahead to a huge game against the Ravens Monday Night Football that will decide both conferences' one seeds, most likely.

Speaker 46 Yeah, I don't know if the Niners can look ahead, though, because they had those three losses in a row. I know.
They're fighting for the one seed right now.

Speaker 136 They're going to win.

Speaker 61 I'm saying, could this be that weird game?

Speaker 6 You know, it starts the fact that it starts at 305, 405, that weird game that you don't really pay attention to, and you're like, oh, wow, the Ford Niners are only on three in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 113 Just saying, maybe.

Speaker 46 The Cardinals' defense is tough.

Speaker 52 I said I was going to do something dumb.

Speaker 46 Yeah, it might be dumb, but I guess in conferences, you don't know what's going to happen between the two teams. They know each other.
Yeah, they know each other. They play each other a lot

Speaker 46 really well. I still like the Niners.
I think the Niners are on, they've got a mission.

Speaker 79 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 133 Okay.

Speaker 8 All right.

Speaker 26 Are you getting high?

Speaker 7 This is a C4. Oh, okay.

Speaker 8 I love that. Yeah, you are.

Speaker 46 You're getting high on new trapics.

Speaker 18 Life.

Speaker 57 Okay, Jake, Nerd Nugget.

Speaker 127 Since 2019, 53% of the 49ers' receiving yards have come after the catch. This yak percentage ranks first in the NFL during that span.

Speaker 46 That's the Debo stat.

Speaker 21 It's the Debo stat.

Speaker 127 That's your song, right? Yes.

Speaker 46 That was good. Yeah.

Speaker 137 We'll have to get a new song now.

Speaker 47 So hot.

Speaker 109 It's hot in here.

Speaker 102 It is. It's very hot.

Speaker 133 Okay.

Speaker 24 Next game.

Speaker 105 Commanders at Rams.

Speaker 46 I have a question for PFT that will decide who I'm going to bet on here.

Speaker 114 Okay.

Speaker 39 PFT, we've known each other for a long time.

Speaker 24 We're good friends.

Speaker 76 We have a great working relationship.

Speaker 4 Did you dye your mustache?

Speaker 85 Yes.

Speaker 16 Okay. All right.
It's all right. All right.

Speaker 84 I just wanted the honesty.

Speaker 2 Hank turned to me last night.

Speaker 117 He's like, I think PFT dyed his mustache.

Speaker 46 I got to make this bad boy pop.

Speaker 42 I got to make it pop. I'm happy you're honest.

Speaker 94 Okay.

Speaker 136 We were thinking about it.

Speaker 115 We didn't want to break it.

Speaker 130 I was watching.

Speaker 7 So we were doing the Surviving Barcelona Finale show last night, and I was stationed behind PFT diagonally. And I wasn't really involved in any of the conversations.

Speaker 7 So I was just looking around and I just got fixated on your mustache.

Speaker 85 And I looked it up.

Speaker 7 I'm happy you admitted it because I pulled up the receipts from a picture of you last night and then the YouTube episode from Monday's show.

Speaker 19 And I was like, oh, this is the most dyed mustache of all time.

Speaker 141 Well, let's not act like this is the first time.

Speaker 46 No, no, no.

Speaker 73 No, I know. You're not trying to tell us.
It clicked. It clicked.
I was looking at it.

Speaker 85 I was like, his mustache.

Speaker 26 I've done this before.

Speaker 46 I'm just going for a different look right now. Listen, it's about to be the holidays.
Going to see family over the holidays. I can't go back looking like a mix between Joe Dirt and Mario.

Speaker 46 So it's just like right now. Mario had

Speaker 46 a market. Keep going.
Okay, Tom Selick. I mixed between Tom Selick

Speaker 46 and Joe Dirt. Many people are saying the mustache looks great.
I would agree with them.

Speaker 26 No one's talking about the sideburns.

Speaker 126 I need to.

Speaker 42 I did not die the best.

Speaker 26 The sideburns are bad.

Speaker 8 Wait, wait, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We were just saying.

Speaker 87 The sideburns are bad.

Speaker 46 Hang on, full patch. All right.
So what I...

Speaker 83 I lost a bet. You're doing this by choice.

Speaker 129 Yeah, yeah. So here's my thing, right?

Speaker 46 The sides of the mustache kind of grow in blonde sometimes.

Speaker 46 so if I grow the whole operation out it looks like I'm doing a little H-Man action with my facial hair this looks like a like a Confederate Revolutionary War soldier you're gonna write a letter to Andrew Luck many great people on both sides

Speaker 46 yeah listen okay the mustache might not be the best look in the world but just something I'm trying out I I think it looks fine it was just Hank and I was weighing on Hank and I because we were like did he die his mustache oh yeah yeah million percent yeah I also just said Confederate Revolutionary War I want to well you don't have to say that I want to address that civil war yeah Million percent died.

Speaker 13 100 million percent.

Speaker 52 We're not expecting any real facts.

Speaker 85 Yeah. Max.

Speaker 46 Oh, Max messed up a history fact. This whole credibility of the Enchantress podcast

Speaker 46 in the channel.

Speaker 52 Show you to stand for something

Speaker 116 for this game.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 85 I think the Rams are going to win.

Speaker 46 Yeah, they're going to win. I think there's going to be a lot of points scored, which is nice.
The defense on the commander's side can't really do anything.

Speaker 46 I'm just looking for good stuff out of Sam Howell. Yeah.
Continue to be the guy. You're in the good stuff time.

Speaker 83 Where it's like, just give me some stuff from the quarterback.

Speaker 46 Yeah, give me some good stuff. No injuries from Sam Howe.
I'm full in on tanking right now. I'm sure once the game starts, I'll want the commanders to win, but I do not want them to win right now.

Speaker 46 I've got pre-nut clarity, and it would be bad if they won this football game.

Speaker 58 Makes sense.

Speaker 118 Yeah.

Speaker 46 You want pre-nut delusion that I want them to lose this football game.

Speaker 7 You don't get clarity pre-nut. I do.

Speaker 46 I think my clearest right before I'm about to have sex.

Speaker 129 The best. That's delusion.

Speaker 26 No, it's like literally exactly.

Speaker 46 No, I'm focused. You get tunnel vision on the coochie.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 123 Delusion.

Speaker 62 Yeah,

Speaker 35 a perfect scenario for you is that Sam Howell looks really good in the 49ers, or sorry, the commanders stay

Speaker 99 like 10-point deficit the whole time.

Speaker 46 Yeah, that'd be great.

Speaker 76 It's like if you ever take the lead in the second half, then you're going to be like, ah, we're winning.

Speaker 46 It would be nice if they threw the ball to Terry McLaurin once.

Speaker 85 Yeah, he had the cardio.

Speaker 46 After the last game where he's like, I'm basically just doing cardio out there, not catching any balls. Tough.
But I've reached the point with this team where,

Speaker 46 you know, we lost Chase Young, lost Montez Sweat.

Speaker 46 The way that Josh Harris operates is it's probably going to be a clean rebuild where you just get everyone out and bring an entirely new, turn the page entirely.

Speaker 46 It might be time to say bye to Jonathan Allen. I know he's sick of this shit.
I know he's fucking tired of this shit. He's fucking tired of this motherfucking shit.
That famous quote.

Speaker 46 He's a great player. He's a captain.
Love him. Wish him nothing but the best.

Speaker 46 Might be time to just be like, okay, even our good players like Jonathan Allen, Terry McLaurin, we might just be starting over entirely next year. Yeah.
Just get everybody that's had a whiff.

Speaker 46 Anyone that's been in a room with Dan Snyder should not be on this team moving forward. Yes.
That's kind of the position that I'm in right now because he will get his stink on you somehow.

Speaker 46 Yeah, burn it all down. Burn it all down.
Restart next year. Turn the page.
New coach.

Speaker 46 Maybe my Patriots could send Belichick down there. I don't know what that would look like.

Speaker 111 It would be funny if the commanders petitioned the league to be like, can you guys, we're going to change our name again.

Speaker 102 Can you just make us an expansion franchise?

Speaker 85 Yeah, well, I fuck. Yeah, I'll take that.

Speaker 46 Yeah, I would even, no, I don't want to say that.

Speaker 46 I mean, in the heat of the moment, if we didn't have a season next year and then we came back entirely new, that would be good for the future of the organization, right?

Speaker 46 But I do obviously want to see the commanders play football on Sundays, and Josh Harris might turn it around. Yeah, this is the team that he's focused on more than any other team that he owns.

Speaker 46 That's a fact.

Speaker 102 That's a fact. Okay.

Speaker 102 Last afternoon game, the best game, Cowboys at Bills.

Speaker 109 Henry, your Cowboys.

Speaker 46 The Crown Jewel.

Speaker 74 The Crown Jewel.

Speaker 7 Can I be honest?

Speaker 73 Yes.

Speaker 21 Kind of want the Bills to win this game.

Speaker 79 Why?

Speaker 7 I like their story. I think

Speaker 7 they have a long road ahead of them.

Speaker 7 Dolphins fans are annoyingly cocky. And Bills fans I feel more of a connection to.
Obviously, we like Josh. We were kind of rivals, but we never really overlapped too much in the rivalry era.

Speaker 7 Like, the Patriots were really good. The Bills were bad.
Then the Bills got good when the the Patriots were bad.

Speaker 7 And I like Bill's mafia. Dolphins fans are insufferable.
Like, they're super annoying. They're super cocky.
They haven't won shit. And seeing.

Speaker 46 Is that just because you work around Nikki Smokes and Frank the Tank?

Speaker 7 No, I mean, they've always, like, Nicki Smokes is definitely a good representation of it.

Speaker 7 And I like Frank, but he's just, you know, doom and gloom. Seeing him melt down is very funny.
Like, watching that game unfold and knowing he's going to have these clips of him freaking out is good.

Speaker 7 Seeing them blow a season and somehow lose the AFC East would be funny.

Speaker 85 Yes.

Speaker 46 Hank, you'd be smiling.

Speaker 141 I would be smiling.

Speaker 46 Hank Blockwood would be smiling. The Bills would be spinning.

Speaker 90 The Bills' story is, yeah, I mean, they've been through going even back to last season.

Speaker 114 It feels like everything that could go wrong for the Bills has gone wrong.

Speaker 90 For them to maybe run the table, Josh Allen would maybe win MVP.

Speaker 61 I mean, if he ran the table,

Speaker 116 if they won the AFC East, he would have a chance.

Speaker 46 You don't want to play the Bills in the playoffs.

Speaker 99 Yeah, I'm hoping they get to the playoffs.

Speaker 89 The Cowboys put Bills' players on

Speaker 90 the tackling dummies this week.

Speaker 24 So I don't know what bowl game they're playing in.

Speaker 35 Is it Cheez-It Bowl or something?

Speaker 21 But that's a weird move.

Speaker 46 It's on the robotic ones that move around.

Speaker 71 Yeah, like, I don't know if it was robotic ones, but it was weird.

Speaker 46 That's a strange move to do.

Speaker 22 That's a really strange move to do for an NFL team.

Speaker 46 That's McCarthy just making it look like he's busy during the week.

Speaker 89 I also,

Speaker 52 the Cowboys

Speaker 8 road wins this year.

Speaker 90 Hank, you know this.

Speaker 74 Actually, why don't you tell us, Hank?

Speaker 71 Eagles?

Speaker 75 Nope.

Speaker 46 Remember, Dak stepped out?

Speaker 7 Commanders?

Speaker 87 Nope. Nope.

Speaker 7 Giants?

Speaker 25 Yes.

Speaker 87 Wow.

Speaker 89 Diehard Cowboys.

Speaker 113 All right, I should have put you on the spot.

Speaker 43 The Cowboys road wins this year.

Speaker 7 You even beat the Giants on the road? No, you said yes.

Speaker 8 Commanders?

Speaker 46 No, yes. No you guys played on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 52 Chargers, Giants, Panthers.

Speaker 124 Those teams stink.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 43 Those are the three road wins.

Speaker 46 We thought their win over the Chargers meant something. Yeah.

Speaker 61 They are a completely different team away from home.

Speaker 8 I like the Bills. What's the line in this game?

Speaker 125 One and a half.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 111 I like the Bills.

Speaker 46 It's a good test if we lose this game.

Speaker 7 It's like a good wake-up call before the playoff run.

Speaker 49 I also think the Bills, like, they are kind of, remember when we had Orlofsky on?

Speaker 35 He's like, put Josh Allen under center?

Speaker 63 They're doing that more now. Yeah.

Speaker 40 James Cook is electric.

Speaker 133 Like,

Speaker 116 I'm worried about the Bills' defense in this game, but I think that they'll

Speaker 100 be kind of a shootout.

Speaker 14 So I like the Bills.

Speaker 46 The line moved to two now.

Speaker 71 Oh, that's probably because we talked about the tackling dummies.

Speaker 46 Right now, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 They're listening.

Speaker 18 They're listening.

Speaker 112 Okay, Nerd Nugget.

Speaker 127 First up, Rams running back Kyron Williams needs 10 more scrimmage yards to hit 1,000 on the season. He'd be the first Rams running back since Todd Gurley in 2019 to reach that mark.

Speaker 70 He's good.

Speaker 127 Next up,

Speaker 95 Nerd Nugget of the Week.

Speaker 128 Sack attack.

Speaker 75 Oh.

Speaker 42 The bills have allowed.

Speaker 95 I made up that name. It wasn't in the notes.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 87 Man.

Speaker 121 Thanks, Jake.

Speaker 122 The Bills have a lot of time.

Speaker 46 For a second, I thought that was not your creation.

Speaker 99 If you're just, if you're listening to the podcast and not the YouTube, you'd be like, who just walked into the room and punched Big Cat in the stomach? Yeah.

Speaker 127 Maybe now I know why you accidentally skipped two nerd nuggets.

Speaker 2 No, that wasn't why.

Speaker 43 I just, there's the problem is for...

Speaker 8 in real in reality is that we are now no buyville so there's 16 or 14 games that's fair It's a shitload of games.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 127 Sack attack. The Bills have allowed the least amount of sacks in the NFL with 18 tied with the Chiefs and are tied for third in the league in sacks themselves with 42.

Speaker 90 Yeah, and I mean, this is the Cowboys, not only the road thing that I was talking about, how they're very different on the road, the Cowboys' defense, while very good, has also beaten up and eaten up a really bad offensive line.

Speaker 46 Yeah, they're very, very good against bad teams.

Speaker 102 What was that? Did I have that stat?

Speaker 61 It was like they've given up like two.

Speaker 86 It was last week, 220 points and 40 of them were against like the Giants, Jets.

Speaker 100 Giants twice, Jets, Patriots, like all these terrible teams.

Speaker 46 But they did beat the Eagles pretty convincingly.

Speaker 42 Yeah, they did. No, they looked awesome.

Speaker 115 But

Speaker 8 are the Eagles good?

Speaker 46 Was that the Cowboys Super Bowl? Are the Eagles good?

Speaker 88 We don't know.

Speaker 100 The Eagles good. Max, do you want to give us any thoughts about the Monday night game?

Speaker 114 Or no, sorry, let's do Sunday night and then you give us some thoughts about the Monday night game, even though we don't usually do it.

Speaker 18 Ravens and Jaguars

Speaker 134 finishing us off, Loopy.

Speaker 58 I think I like the Ravens.

Speaker 99 I don't fucking know. This is a tough game.

Speaker 46 It's weird with the prime time. So the Jaguars are going to have a lot to play for.
They have the national stage. They're going to have a full house.
People are pumped.

Speaker 46 This is almost a must-win for the Jaguars. Yes.
If they want to keep thinking that they're going to be like a factor in the playoffs, I think I like the Jaguars. Three and a half at home.

Speaker 70 Really? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 46 Three and a half at home. This is probably a field goal game either way.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 57 Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 46 Because like the Ravens played an awesome game last week against the Rams, but they also very easily could have lost that game.

Speaker 13 Easily could have lost.

Speaker 46 If they had happened to lose that game last week, or tie even, if they don't return that punt for a touchdown, they get stuck around midfield, kick it back.

Speaker 46 Tie is in the realm of possibility at that point. If they had tied that game, we wouldn't be thinking about the Ravens going to this game.
as being like world beaters. That's true.

Speaker 46 So I like the Jaguars at home.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 57 Mac, or Nerd Nugget.

Speaker 127 Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson is the only quarterback in NFL history to produce six seasons of 600-plus rushing yards. He has 644 right now.
No other quarterback has more than four such seasons.

Speaker 46 Yeah, really, really fast.

Speaker 39 Max, thoughts real quick?

Speaker 126 I think we can talk about it Sunday.

Speaker 87 Okay.

Speaker 85 Let's do it Sunday.

Speaker 46 Well, no, just give me a, it sounds like he's not ready to give me one thought.

Speaker 126 I am. I have thoughts, but this is a little teaser in the biz, you know?

Speaker 75 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 46 Give me one thought.

Speaker 76 You want to talk about it on Sunday?

Speaker 42 Yeah. That's your thought.

Speaker 44 His thought is he wants to talk about it.

Speaker 46 I don't like how Max jumped down my throat about the mustache thing. That seemed perfect.

Speaker 138 You know, he went.

Speaker 138 Hank,

Speaker 91 I have no problem. I think the mustache.

Speaker 93 We don't have to replay it.

Speaker 61 We know what you're going to say.

Speaker 2 It's the sideburns.

Speaker 126 I don't like the sideburns.

Speaker 46 I've had sideburns for...

Speaker 15 10 years.

Speaker 52 Hank and I came in very soft on that.

Speaker 23 Yeah, I was ready to talk about it in the show.

Speaker 7 Max came in with a camera earlier.

Speaker 45 I was like, what the fuck is on your face?

Speaker 52 Yeah, and then Max just jumped over the top and was like, yeah,

Speaker 13 I think I look classy.

Speaker 91 I think that it needed that, though.

Speaker 26 I think that I look super classy.

Speaker 100 What setting would it be considered classy?

Speaker 89 Like Myrtle Beach?

Speaker 46 Super classy.

Speaker 125 Yeah, I look, I look all.

Speaker 141 Well, Jack.

Speaker 7 Yeah, if you're at the slot machine, like classy as fuck.

Speaker 46 I feel like life is a slot machine for me. Every day I wake up and I hit the slot machine and I'm not a fucking heater.

Speaker 39 If you're in a bar in like Destin, Florida, you are classy.

Speaker 26 Yeah, I'll take that.

Speaker 126 Well, we also, we have a big interview coming up, and I was just looking at you. I was like, what is this guy thinking when he's looking at your face right now?

Speaker 85 What are you talking about?

Speaker 8 Man, man, Max.

Speaker 98 He's doubling down.

Speaker 115 That's mean, Max.

Speaker 46 I think I look good. You know what? Like, haters everywhere.
Haters everywhere. All around.

Speaker 87 Listen.

Speaker 7 You're supposed to be hair brothers.

Speaker 46 I think I look good. I think I look like

Speaker 46 the perfect example of an American male.

Speaker 7 Do you dye the under or the chin beard?

Speaker 46 No, I don't dye that.

Speaker 7 Match the color.

Speaker 126 I think it would look good without the sideburns, and I truly mean that.

Speaker 129 So lay the fuck off my sideburns.

Speaker 26 But I think the rest of you.

Speaker 94 Yo, get off my boy's sideburns.

Speaker 26 I think the rest of it.

Speaker 46 I may not realize I've had sideburns for you. We'll fuck you off.

Speaker 91 No, but it's like the way it's the way that you like shaved it.

Speaker 142 It's like very purpose-style. Yeah, I was.

Speaker 42 I did.

Speaker 84 I did line up.

Speaker 26 Like, the lineup on the sideburns is.

Speaker 46 You know what I did last night when I was shaving? I was trying to have it so that the sideburns connected all the way to the mustache, right? That'd be a good look.

Speaker 126 Literally, like exactly like the Civil War continued.

Speaker 46 Like the Civil War, yeah. And I accidentally nicked part of this side of it and disconnected it.
So I'm like, fuck, now I just got to make it pointy on the sideburns. Keep the mustache as is.

Speaker 46 But yeah, it would have looked so much cooler if the sideburns connected. Yeah.
It was just like very

Speaker 46 zed. Yeah.

Speaker 87 Okay.

Speaker 82 Let's do our picks.

Speaker 46 You're a piece of shit, man.

Speaker 137 He's just, if you just keep asking him questions, he's going to keep going harder. So you're going to, you know, lay your sword down.

Speaker 15 Picks.

Speaker 58 Who's picking first and what are the standings?

Speaker 127 Memes, who's picking first? I think Jake. Okay, I'm picking first.
So in the warm-up category, the opening act, I have 17.5. Memes has 15.
Max has 15. Head-to-head, heading into it.

Speaker 127 And right now, main event, one hour. Big Cat, 19.5.

Speaker 127 PFT, 18.

Speaker 46 Hank, 12.5.

Speaker 127 Hank is 5.5 back with 8 points remaining. So if my math is correct, if PFT outgains Hank this week, I believe it would be over because then you'd be 6.5 up with 6 to play.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 124 Okay.

Speaker 46 Who's picking first?

Speaker 127 I'm going to take the Dolphins minus nine and a half against the Jets.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 126 I am going to take the Bears.

Speaker 87 Ooh. Okay.

Speaker 13 Plus three against the Brains.

Speaker 134 Okay. Memes.

Speaker 46 Ravens, Jaguars, over 42.5.

Speaker 85 Ooh. Happy Sunday night.

Speaker 7 Hank. Quick announcement here.

Speaker 135 What? What's it called?

Speaker 7 Announcement. I saw that.
Whoa, I like that.

Speaker 8 Oh, there you go.

Speaker 94 You're going to get rid of that, Hank.

Speaker 7 We're doing at Barcelona River North in Chicago on Wednesday a talent show.

Speaker 7 We're going to have a bunch of people five minutes, some comedians, some food people, some magicians, whatever you want to do. We'll put out the link for the submission form.

Speaker 7 Send it in today or tomorrow. We're going to pick them on Saturday.
There's a chance someone might be going up there for five minutes. Test it out.

Speaker 46 Oh, doing a little stand-up.

Speaker 129 Nice.

Speaker 7 So show up. Come Wednesday night at 7, Barcelona River North.
Love it. Submit if you want.
Talent, you win 500 bucks and a guest guest spot in the yak. Yeah.

Speaker 7 My pick, I think, is going to be a

Speaker 7 nuclear missile whale. Oh.
First of the year.

Speaker 8 Oh.

Speaker 7 Mega Walk. Oh.
Mega Bomb.

Speaker 47 Charge.

Speaker 8 Jesus. Oh, no.

Speaker 13 It's going to lose.

Speaker 46 That's tough. Ramps.

Speaker 26 It's going to lose.

Speaker 13 Ramps. Okay, cool.
Okay.

Speaker 127 Minus six and a half against the Smith.

Speaker 90 It's going to lose now.

Speaker 26 It's going to lose now.

Speaker 46 That was bad. You want to take the Chargers?

Speaker 7 Yeah. No, I was thinking L.A.

Speaker 82 Okay, my first pick, I'm going to take the Cowboys Bills over 50.5.

Speaker 88 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 99 I like that. Points, points.

Speaker 46 That's a fun game to play. Points, points.

Speaker 137 Points points.

Speaker 46 I'm going to take

Speaker 46 Commanders Rams over 50 and a half. Love it.
Big over.

Speaker 46 Commanders defense stinks. Sam Howell's going to put up some points, I hope.

Speaker 29 Love it.

Speaker 61 And

Speaker 46 I'm going to take,

Speaker 46 I'm going to do something crazy.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 46 My New England Patriots.

Speaker 8 Oh.

Speaker 26 Plus seven and a half. Oh.

Speaker 8 Dome.

Speaker 47 Oh.

Speaker 46 Lighthouse. Could be a back door.
That's it.

Speaker 8 Jesus.

Speaker 46 Lighthouse. Could be a backdoor.
Okay.

Speaker 107 I'm going to go

Speaker 80 Tommy DeVito plus six.

Speaker 90 Giants plus six in the dome, which is not a real dome anymore.

Speaker 7 Because I crunched so many numbers for this game. I looked at it deeply in depth.

Speaker 71 I'm going to go with the Commander's Rams under.

Speaker 8 Oh!

Speaker 79 So

Speaker 116 we see what you're doing.

Speaker 115 I wasn't familiar with your game.

Speaker 127 That could be the clincher.

Speaker 46 It could be, yeah.

Speaker 127 Or it could tighten the gap.

Speaker 107 Wow.

Speaker 87 How about that, Hank?

Speaker 40 That could be the clincher.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but I'm committed to it, but I might as well fight. I might as well.
Yeah, you might as well. I want to fight head on.
Yeah, you can. Jon Snow, Battle of the Bastards.
Yeah.

Speaker 107 Yeah. Okay, memes.

Speaker 86 Eagles minus three. Okay,

Speaker 87 memes.

Speaker 127 Three and a half, I see. I see three.

Speaker 13 I see

Speaker 123 three.

Speaker 46 Three it is.

Speaker 96 Let's go, memes.

Speaker 126 I'm going to go

Speaker 126 Saints Giants over.

Speaker 75 Ooh. Okay.

Speaker 87 What are we looking at?

Speaker 7 I think I have

Speaker 61 a sneaky way of letting us know he loves his Taizam.

Speaker 52 That's not true.

Speaker 26 That's not true. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 26 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 112 All right.

Speaker 100 Jake, finish this off.

Speaker 127 I'm going to go with Bucks Packers over 42.5.

Speaker 46 Okay.

Speaker 86 Can I change my pick?

Speaker 63 Nope. Nope.

Speaker 127 Also, pancake update.

Speaker 47 Hank, 47.

Speaker 127 Jake, 42. Shout out to my team.
11 pancakes.

Speaker 129 Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 129 What?

Speaker 21 We're doing personal shout-outs on team?

Speaker 7 And you're the one doing the statue. Okay.

Speaker 8 Oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 126 This was a crazy week from Jake. That's interesting.

Speaker 42 As I've said.

Speaker 125 Very interesting.

Speaker 72 Very interesting.

Speaker 126 By far the biggest week of the year.

Speaker 8 No, wrong.

Speaker 127 I gave you access to the sheet.

Speaker 84 And if you looked at that,

Speaker 78 you kind of like to do it.

Speaker 8 You know we don't do shoots. You know, we don't click links.
You know, we don't do sheets.

Speaker 127 We have public access to all of this.

Speaker 136 No, you know, we don't do sheets.

Speaker 125 I've been keeping track, Jake.

Speaker 85 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 21 So bad.

Speaker 4 Personal shout-out.

Speaker 49 Just put it in the record books.

Speaker 5 The referee of this is literally shouting out his own team.

Speaker 46 So, wait, are you in first place, Jake? No.

Speaker 26 So that would be too hard.

Speaker 46 I'm giving a shout-out for second place.

Speaker 94 Shout out to my team for a big week.

Speaker 91 What are you, Max?

Speaker 129 I mean, oh, nice.

Speaker 127 He lost the Panthers piece.

Speaker 15 Don't say the sideburns.

Speaker 87 I didn't say it. Okay.

Speaker 127 You guys are more than welcome to double-check my work.

Speaker 15 I will not.

Speaker 8 I know.

Speaker 127 Hank 47, Jake, 42. Max 34.
PFT 32, Big Cat 30, Memes 27.

Speaker 100 Tight race. So memes and I are looking, memes are looking at 24 pancakes right now in 24 hours.

Speaker 81 Well, it's 24 hours or 24 pancakes.

Speaker 8 Combo.

Speaker 24 I'm looking at 18.

Speaker 7 It's like an hour for you.

Speaker 115 You fuck.

Speaker 46 Dude, the announcements today have been on fire.

Speaker 91 This has been a mean episode.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 70 It's a loopy. Yeah.

Speaker 61 We're all low on sleep.

Speaker 119 Okay.

Speaker 35 Let's do some fantasy fuck boys than Jeff Saturday.

Speaker 125 what's up

Speaker 7 it's announcement to veto hey

Speaker 7 my stardom draymond green oh he was my sit-em well he's my fucking stardom so don't you can't use him people might think you want to sit him but you want to stardom you want to pick him up he's going to be back real soon i don't know how you get to spend it indefinitely what the fuck does that even mean?

Speaker 46 Indefinitely. He's out.
He's just doing that shit, so he has more stuff to talk about on his podcast.

Speaker 85 My sit-im, Josh Giddy.

Speaker 135 Oh.

Speaker 7 He's not playing too well. If you have him on your fantasy team, you might want to sit him out.

Speaker 118 Oh.

Speaker 118 Or handcuff him.

Speaker 125 He's a little distracted.

Speaker 7 And my sleeper

Speaker 34 is Dreidels.

Speaker 70 Oh. Oh, okay.

Speaker 7 That time of year. Get the Dreidels out.
Happy Annika. Hey.

Speaker 132 Hey. Hey.
Hey.

Speaker 7 Dreidel, Dreidel, Dreidel. I made it out of clay.

Speaker 132 Hey, hey. Hey.
Gotten ready.

Speaker 46 Aldreido. I shall play.

Speaker 87 Hey.

Speaker 8 Hey.

Speaker 8 What's up?

Speaker 46 Hey, what's up, Baisons? It's Sean Stilato right here coming at you, talking to you about my start. I'm sitting sleeper.
I'm starting Al Michaels because he got fired because of Taylor Swift.

Speaker 46 Respect to Al, respect to the game. Swifty's off a cliff with you.
I'm also sitting Draymond Green this week. It's suspended indefinitely.
Indefinitely is a long time.

Speaker 83 Did you not fucking hear me when I said to start him?

Speaker 53 I like that one. I very

Speaker 46 it's a very, very long time to be suspected. What did he even do?

Speaker 46 He just attacked a Turkish guy. That's almost like an Italian tradition, huh?

Speaker 46 My sleeper, I am. I'm sleeping Jerry Judy and Juju Smith Shuster.

Speaker 141 Let's put together a little Hanukkah barlay

Speaker 46 with Juju and Judy. How about that? I like it.
Oh, my Jewish friends out there.

Speaker 136 Jerry Judy, up your booty.

Speaker 46 Mazzle Mazzo.

Speaker 143 What's up, guys?

Speaker 136 It's Guido DeVito.

Speaker 43 Guido DeVito.

Speaker 136 My stardom is Dickie V for no other reason than

Speaker 143 I missed that Paison. I missed that fucking guy.

Speaker 46 Cancer-free, good to see.

Speaker 52 He's coming back soon.

Speaker 23 My sitem, Draymond Green.

Speaker 46 Oh, good sitem. Yeah.
Why, what happened with Draymond Green?

Speaker 23 He's suspended indefinitely.

Speaker 48 Indefinitely. Yeah.

Speaker 46 That's also what Draymond would say. Hey, I'm going to go fight a Turkish guy.
You want to come?

Speaker 87 In.

Speaker 125 Definitely. Whose car are we taking?

Speaker 130 You know why he got suspended indefinitely?

Speaker 97 Why?

Speaker 143 He's spoiled surviving bar stool on his early show every morning. Disgusting.

Speaker 136 Yeah, indefinitely.

Speaker 136 My sleeper,

Speaker 92 my sleeper is going to be Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 137 This is it. This is going to be.
He might be president someday.

Speaker 46 That's a good suspect. I could see it.

Speaker 23 MVP.

Speaker 131 Italian in the office.

Speaker 46 MVP. Most valuable Paisan.

Speaker 85 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 All right.

Speaker 90 You don't like that, Max?

Speaker 83 I mean, you weren't even doing that. You were just doing a finger.

Speaker 8 I was doing two fingers. You were just doing two fingers.

Speaker 46 That's also an Italian handsage.

Speaker 26 No, no.

Speaker 126 Not all Italians are perverts.

Speaker 46 No, it's just Italian. Yeah.

Speaker 21 But all perverts are Italian.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to our great interview, Jeff Saturday.

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Speaker 53 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.

Speaker 124 He is a Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 82 He is a former head coach.

Speaker 100 He is someone you can see every single week on ESPN talking ball.

Speaker 5 It is Jeff Saturday.

Speaker 100 Jeff, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 124 We're excited to talk ball with you.

Speaker 115 Let's start.

Speaker 100 We have a million questions, but let's start with today, what we're looking at with the NFL and the stretch run, because you obviously playing for the Colts, playing deep into the playoffs many, many times.

Speaker 39 What is it like right now in the locker rooms around the NFL for some of these contending teams rolling into December being like, here's where we got to be with our head at and like how we can finish this season strong going into the playoffs?

Speaker 34 Yeah, you know, it's always funny when people talk about like must-wins, like these are the, these as a player are when you feel like must-wins because you want to have that momentum.

Speaker 34 going into the playoffs, right? So irrespective of the team or the team that you're playing or where they are on the playoffs,

Speaker 34 you're really not doing a ton of looking around. You really want to focus on you, understanding that the best ones are going to be there, right? If you're Dallas, you know Philly's going to be there.

Speaker 34 You know San Fran is going to be there, right? Detroit's probably going to be there.

Speaker 34 So you already kind of know in your head who the big ones are you're going to have to beat, but you're always a little fearful of, I'll use an example when I was playing Pittsburgh, right?

Speaker 34 Like Pittsburgh got hot right at the end of the season. They ended up winning the Super Bowl that year, kind of like a Buffalo this year.
That's not the team.

Speaker 34 If you're in the AFC, you don't want that team getting hot the last four weeks of the season. So from your perspective, handle your business.
Try to go in with some

Speaker 34 Mo. But, you know, and again, hope for the other ones to kind of eliminate themselves you don't want to see again.
Yeah.

Speaker 46 Yeah. I feel like your Colts teams were always ground zero for the rest versus Rust debate.
Yes. You guys would always start out so hot and you'd have your division locked up.

Speaker 46 You would be the first team that would, you get the one seed. Congratulations.
And then every year it would be like, are the the Colts going to sit their guys?

Speaker 46 Are they going to play their guys in late December? And you probably experienced both sides of that. In your opinion, where do you stand?

Speaker 46 Like, you are the ultimate arbiter, in my opinion, of rest versus rust. What's more important?

Speaker 34 Yeah,

Speaker 34 I think playing is the most important. I think what I learned throughout was timing and rhythm matter, right? Like, and it's one of those things where

Speaker 34 so many times I thought we had the better team, but not playing up to those points, you got back out there. You kind of had to find the rhythm.

Speaker 34 And it's not that you, the plays are, you know, it's not that you can't execute or you're not flying around in practice, but when you hit the games, there's just something about being in the, you know, being in and out of the huddle the way you are, in and out of

Speaker 34 plays the way you are,

Speaker 34 the transitions that happen during games, you know, flips, turnovers, all those kinds of things.

Speaker 34 And so I was one of those,

Speaker 34 as we went on, I was much more about playing.

Speaker 34 I mean, even the year that we lost the Super Bowl to New orleans uh you know we we we had a chance to go undefeated right but we pulled our guys against the jets we ended up losing that game but even then i know we made it to the super bowl i still in my head i wanted to keep playing because i saw how many times i felt like it it hurt us yeah certain guys obviously you got to rest right like the guys who are banged up you don't want them playing you want to make sure that they're ready to roll come playoff time but for the majority i would say playing is is the way i would want to go so you mentioned the saints they're not really a team that's being talked about right now, but I had a question specific to them that I would love to get your take on.

Speaker 76 We saw it last week, offensive lineman yelling at Derek Carr coming off the field.

Speaker 130 I know that they tried to say, oh, that wasn't a big deal.

Speaker 16 But my question is, Derek Carr has been injured so much this year.

Speaker 59 When you're in the locker room and a guy gets injured as much as he does and he doesn't want to sit down, is there ever a tipping point where it's like, dude, We're not playing well.

Speaker 26 You're hurt.

Speaker 1 Like, you got to get healthy.

Speaker 22 I know you're tough, but you have to get healthy because you're hurting the team now.

Speaker 96 For sure.

Speaker 34 And the problem is, is that you're new to that organization, right? And so he wants to show all the, you know, it's kind of that balance, right? It's like,

Speaker 34 am I the tough guy that everybody believes I am? Or, you know, are people going to think I'm soft? So there's this fine balance where guys want to push through injury as opposed to, I hate fellas.

Speaker 34 I need two weeks off. If you've been there, right? If you're a Peyton Manning, you've been there for 20, you know, 20 years, whatever it is, right? You've been there forever.

Speaker 34 Guys are going to give you the benefit benefit of the doubt. I think for Carr, he's trying to build that reputation at the same time.
But to your point, guys get frustrated, right?

Speaker 34 Because if you're not playing to the level that we need you to play to, you are hurting us. And

Speaker 34 it was always interesting. Bill Pollyon, who's in the Hall of Fame, was our general manager.
And I remember him saying, Saturday, I've been around this game 50 years or whatever it was at that point.

Speaker 34 He said, I've seen a handful of players that I would tell you, I would take an 80%

Speaker 34 of

Speaker 34 this player to 100%

Speaker 111 of their backup.

Speaker 34 And you know what? That's factual. You know, there are just, there are just few people who are that freaking good that if the guy behind them, you know, could play at 100, you're at 80 or 75, man.

Speaker 34 You're just not adding value.

Speaker 34 The game is played in the margins, and there's too many good players. Like,

Speaker 34 just too many dudes who are that good at 70, 80%, man. You just, you ain't cutting it.

Speaker 101 You saw it with Joe Burrow a little bit at the beginning of the year when they were struggling.

Speaker 1 And then in terms of the offensive lineman quarterback,

Speaker 18 you've had moments where they've shown you on the sideline yelling at Peyton.

Speaker 55 How much of that is like really when you get back in the locker room, you're like, all right, that was in the game.

Speaker 50 Or does some of it, can some of it linger from time to time?

Speaker 34 So for P and I, 100% ended on the field. That was us in practice as well.

Speaker 34 I tell people all the time, man, if they had cameras at practice, you know, because he was one of those guys that was always trying to push you, right?

Speaker 34 So he'd use, use, and, you know, we used audibles at the line of scrimmage. So it'd be a freaking Wednesday, bro.
We're in seven on set or nine on seven, which is our time to really like run block.

Speaker 34 And he's using some arbitrary call that we had in use since training camp. You know what I mean? Everybody's looking around like, what? You know what I mean?

Speaker 34 So then we would get pissed, and everybody's having words, and, you know, it's going that way.

Speaker 34 But game time, man, it was always you're in the moment. The minute you walk off the field, you're hugging.
There's no, there's no issue. I will say

Speaker 34 that the problem for me is that it's happening as quick as it's happened

Speaker 34 with the Saints. And so, like, when you're talking about those experiences, relationships take time to develop.
And

Speaker 34 it's already happening. And dudes are popping off on each other and frustrated with each other.
You just begin to wonder, hey, like, how much of that needs to be calmed down in a lot?

Speaker 34 Like, let's have a real sit down. Like, let's really get to it.

Speaker 34 The only time I will tell you as a player,

Speaker 34 when you're seeing guys at each other in repeated weeks, that's when you know something's really there.

Speaker 34 If it's time and again, no big deal. If it's happening week after week and you see dudes pointing and yelling across the bench and all that kind of stuff, that's real.

Speaker 46 Yeah. I also saw on that same play, they didn't help Derek Carr up off the ground either.
They walked away from him after he got hit. To me, that's a kind of a red flag.

Speaker 46 You want to help your buddy up. Is it possible for a coach to go back, show the team that film, be like, hey, you didn't help Derek up.
You got to help him up next time.

Speaker 46 What are we doing out here like will will the offensive line actually see that and be like yeah you know what you're right he is our guy or is that something where like that bridge has been burned already and if a coach tells you to help him up it's like okay now he's like a charity case where i'm going to go help him up because coach told me to Yeah, no, you, the coach will definitely say that.

Speaker 34 And the O-line, I can assure you, the coordinator, the O-line coach,

Speaker 34 they have had those conversations, right? Head coach, you know, Dennis Allen's looking at like, hey, fellas, like, we got to get this solved.

Speaker 34 You know, especially in our division where we can still go win this thing and go make, you know, go make some hay.

Speaker 34 He is trying to fix that. Whatever the problem is,

Speaker 34 rest assured,

Speaker 34 that is a highlight in their meeting of making sure, hey, O-line guy, go down there and sit down with him, man, figure this thing out.

Speaker 34 Like, we can't have, because to your point, everybody picks it up, right? Like, media picks it up. You know, fans pick it up and they pick up that feeling.

Speaker 34 And the last thing you want to know is everybody airing your business.

Speaker 34 If you do have an issue, let's handle it in-house. Let's not have everybody in the world, you know, chatting about us because people see it, man.

Speaker 34 And that cold shoulder, whether you like it or not, it's pronounced when you're on the field.

Speaker 46 Does that go both ways? Like, if you fell down on a play, would you hope that Peyton would come over and pick you up?

Speaker 34 Oh, not Peyton. You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 34 Edgrin, you know, like those dudes are picking you up. Like, you know, P would pick you up if he's kind of mixed up in it, but he's got other things to do.

Speaker 34 But the other O-lineman, you know, listen, quarterbacks ain't the same, right? I mean, like, they, like, we don't, I don't need them worrying about picking me up.

Speaker 34 I'm going to be on the ground every play. We'll get each other up.
The other 10 will take care of each other.

Speaker 34 But it is a big deal. Like, it's a big deal when he's not getting picked up.
That's your leader, man. I mean, whether you like it or not, on Sundays, he's got to be the dude.

Speaker 34 And everybody's got to be behind him and riding with him

Speaker 34 offensively, especially, because it matters.

Speaker 34 It all starts from there. So, you know, if P was mixed up in one, he'd pick you up, but

Speaker 34 he ain't running into a pile to come get a guy.

Speaker 64 Let's just say it that way.

Speaker 13 Yes.

Speaker 130 All right.

Speaker 18 So one of the biggest stories right now, when you're looking at the playoff picture, is the Kansas City Chiefs, and they've lost two straight, and they've looked bad offensively.

Speaker 24 So maybe you could draw on your own, you know, career, but the wide receivers are bad.

Speaker 61 They have not played well.

Speaker 2 How much, I don't think it gets really talked about because everyone's like, oh, yeah, they're bad.

Speaker 24 Patrick Mahomes is good.

Speaker 18 How much pressure does it end up being on that wide receiver room knowing they have the best quarterback in the league?

Speaker 1 Like, if that happened with the Colts and Peyton's like getting the ball there, but guys are dropping it, because I think that's an element that we're not really talking about that

Speaker 40 they have not performed well, but there's also so much added pressure because everyone's like, hey, Patrick Moore is the best.

Speaker 5 You guys got to figure it out.

Speaker 34 It's enormous. Listen, I can assure you, those dudes go back every Monday after that Sunday game and their stomachs hurt.
Like it, because it is a, to your point,

Speaker 34 it is a significant amount of pressure coming not only from internally, you know, in the building, everybody knows, right?

Speaker 34 Like, like people, you know, I heard everybody go, are they screaming at Tony after that play? No, man, because everybody knows, like, he don't need to be screamed at. He knows what he did, right?

Speaker 34 And so it's, it's the, it's the, it's the elephant in the room. Everybody already knows it's there.

Speaker 34 Now the outside perception of, and you're seeing, and we used to talk about like drops are contagious.

Speaker 34 Because again, as you're thinking about it so hard now, instead of just letting your athletic ability take over, you're like trying to find focus on, don't screw this up. And you see guys get tense.

Speaker 34 All of a sudden, they're not making the plays they should make or they normally make.

Speaker 34 But it's deeper than that for the Chiefs for me. Like

Speaker 34 for whatever reason.

Speaker 34 And I know they played together last year, Mina Smith, Schuster, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 34 But the routes, like how, you know, you think about how precise Andy Reid and that offense is and the West Coast offense is in general, right? I mean, everything is scripted out. I mean, you you know,

Speaker 34 everything. A slant is a disslant.
You know, you're going to get here at this time. Everything is timing in that offense.

Speaker 34 And that's why, like, a couple of years ago, when people were playing two high safeties, everybody's like, well, it's messing up the rhythm. It's messing up the timing, right? He can't figure it out.

Speaker 34 But the receivers aren't where they're supposed to be. And you can, I think that part to me is the most frustrating to Mahomes.

Speaker 34 I think that's why he had the blow up is because when the guys aren't there, it doesn't matter how good you are as a quarterback, you're going to be pissed, bro, because that's that's like that's like job one.

Speaker 34 And his frustration showing the way it is, hopefully, it lights a fire under them that they all connect or they shrink the playbook down so they can all dial in on the same page.

Speaker 34 But there is an enormous amount of pressure right now because every nobody's going to blame this on Patrick Mahomes, and nobody and their defense is playing lights out.

Speaker 34 So when all the lights get shined, it's going to that receiver room. And uh, unfortunately, they haven't they haven't met the challenge as of yet.

Speaker 34 But it's, it's definitely fixable, but it's bigger than just the drops.

Speaker 34 This thing is getting out of hand a little bit.

Speaker 46 Yeah. Sounds like it's minted a little bit.
So

Speaker 46 put on your head coaching hat. If Jeff Saturday, the head coach, stepped into the Kansas City Chiefs locker room, what do you do to fix that?

Speaker 34 I'm asking Patrick and I'm asking the receivers, what do you guys want?

Speaker 34 Like, are we overdoing this? Are we putting too much in?

Speaker 34 You know, tell me what is the problem why we can't all get on the same page do we need to shrink it down do we need to shrink the package down um

Speaker 34 at times in a season and i would tell you this from you know i was on one of the best offenses for you know for for 14 years right like we were always good we were always in the top whatever that was you know top one five whatever it was we would have these conversations about sometimes you keep adding so much that you forget to fall back to the fundamentals.

Speaker 34 And at some point, that might be what they're talking about is, hey, let's dial this back, man. Let's run this play.
Let's run our favorite five.

Speaker 34 Instead of running those two times a game, let's run them three times a game or come back to that play. The other part, too, let me just say it this way.
Like Bienname not being there, it matters.

Speaker 64 I'm not saying that

Speaker 34 Andy Reid and Naggy, these guys aren't great coaches, but Bienname had some, he had some nastiness about him, right?

Speaker 34 Like he had some, he had some significant conversations with their players, whether that's Mahomes or other people.

Speaker 34 And, you know, with him not being there, it does get into a place where maybe some things have been allowed or tolerated to a different degree.

Speaker 34 I don't know how, I don't know how to frame it, but I do think Biennemy not being there,

Speaker 34 you know, hurts because those players in the room are ultimately the guys who have to execute it.

Speaker 129 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 124 All right. I told you I'm a Bears fan.

Speaker 53 I had to ask one question.

Speaker 2 You were like, oh, yeah, ask me all the questions about the Super Bowl.

Speaker 29 I know you want to hear all the questions about the Super Bowl, but it's a two-part question.

Speaker 81 The first will be about the Super Bowl.

Speaker 93 The second one will be about today's game.

Speaker 81 When you guys were doing the meeting, you know, Super Bowl meeting before the Bears, was there like a whiteboard that was like, Rex Grossman's going to give us at least this many turnovers?

Speaker 63 Did you guys have it like penciled in?

Speaker 53 Like, don't worry about it.

Speaker 24 Like, we don't have to be perfect because he will give us a few.

Speaker 34 You will actually love this.

Speaker 34 Tony Dungy was like this with every, I tell people all the time, thank God I never heard Tony Dungy like talk about me in a in an early week competent, you know, competitive manner. Like, who knows?

Speaker 34 He would have said I was the, I'm a bottom center. I mean, you know, like, like, he's one of the worst in our game.
Like this dude talked about Tom Brady.

Speaker 34 He'd be like, yeah, yeah, he'll give us two or three chances to make some plays. We just, you know, like he never, he never like pumped dudes up.

Speaker 34 So to your point, let's just say we weren't really scared of Grossman or what was going to happen

Speaker 34 on the outside with the Bears at that moment.

Speaker 26 Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 All right. So that leads me right next one.

Speaker 92 I knew that was the answer, but I had to ask anyway, give you a win there.

Speaker 23 The Colts Super Bowl run that year.

Speaker 86 One of the craziest parts was you guys weren't a good defense.

Speaker 130 And kind of put it all together at the end stretch run.

Speaker 26 Two teams right now that have Super Bowl aspirations, the Eagles and the Lions, are in that category where their offense is great, their defenses look bad.

Speaker 92 Is there, what is the fix this late in the season where it's like, even if we can go from a C minus to a B minus, we now have a real chance to win this thing.

Speaker 26 What?

Speaker 42 Well, how does that happen?

Speaker 34 Yeah, the devil's in the details. I mean, I can literally remember this conversation of that year.
I don't know if you guys remember this.

Speaker 34 We played the Jaguars, man, and I think it was like MJD and Fred Till. I think both of those dudes ran for like a buck 50 or 200 yards each.
We gave over 300 yards.

Speaker 34 Like, literally, they both pulled their hamstrings because they were so fatigued from how many freaking yards we had given up, right? And we get boat raced.

Speaker 34 And I remember we go back and it was Monday and we're going back and Tony gets in front of the whole team and he's like, man, we just didn't really line up correctly.

Speaker 34 And I remember thinking to myself, I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, this cannot be an alignment issue, right? Like we got freaking boat raced. And he's like, man, it's, it's so simple.

Speaker 34 We can fix all these problems. And if we do this, this, and this, and it was like, he was prophetic.

Speaker 34 He's like, if we line up correctly here and we put our will here, and our Sam turns the ball back inside, and he went through the whole thing, y'all. And it was, it was like, we started doing that.

Speaker 34 And when they started, they shut down Kansas City in like an incredible rushing attack. I mean, it was just, it was like a light bulb switch went off and it completely changed.

Speaker 34 And it was such, it was such a great lesson in life because it really all comes down to the details.

Speaker 34 And if you look at the Eagles, right, and you look at Detroit and the mistakes that they're making, all of them are correctable.

Speaker 34 And it's not, you know, because you always hear people go, oh man, this player can't. Yeah, they can't.
That player's there for a reason, bro. They got two great corners.

Speaker 34 They got good, you know, that they haven't played well in the back end. They're, you know, their linebackers have been banged up.
They haven't gotten sacks when they should.

Speaker 34 But again, all of those things are in the minutiae, right? And so

Speaker 34 to your point, both teams have problems that are definitely fixable.

Speaker 34 This is not a necessary scheme problem or a, but this is two new coordinators, especially for the Eagles, two new coordinators figuring this thing out on the run.

Speaker 34 Offense hasn't run it as well as they did last year. So that puts more pressure on the Eagles' defense.
Like there's so many different things. But as far as fixing it, man, absolutely.

Speaker 34 Like I said this on TV the other day, man. It drives me crazy.
Like we've written the Eagles off. Really?

Speaker 34 They beat some freaking great. They had two bad weeks.
San Fran lost three in a row. You know what I mean? It's like,

Speaker 34 how do you, I just don't write teams off like that. They're too many.
They're too, they're too good. You know, these players can fix it.

Speaker 34 And, and I think the Eagles over these next four, you know, get right games will get right

Speaker 34 and figure this thing out. The problem, I will say this.
The problem for both teams.

Speaker 34 Jalen, you know, he's got 15 turnovers already. Like he had eight last year.

Speaker 34 That is a problem. And the same, and you look at golf, that's killing the, that's killing the Lions.

Speaker 34 Like the Lions don't have the same margin that the Eagles have, and that's the biggest difference for them, right?

Speaker 34 If the Lions make mistakes, they're probably going to lose. The Eagles can make mistakes and still win.
It's just a tougher way of going about it.

Speaker 93 Yeah, it's good points because we, I mean, we're the number one culprits of writing teams off.

Speaker 23 I write a team off on Sunday night.

Speaker 40 I have figured out the whole league and I've decided how everything's going to go.

Speaker 46 It's really whoever lost in the most recent primetime game. Yeah.
It's like they're the one that's on national television. It's like, they're done for the year.
I don't see them making a comeback.

Speaker 46 We are very much prisoners of the moment in that respect.

Speaker 46 On a recent primetime game, your former teammate Peyton Manning started talking about your butt a little bit.

Speaker 46 He did some ass talk with Jeff Saturday, and he said that he could tell your ass apart from other centers based on how it felt.

Speaker 46 So I want to give you the opportunity to respond to that and say, could you tell Peyton Manning's ass, if you were blindfolded, could you tell Peyton Manning's hand in your ass apart from Aaron Rodgers' hand in your ass?

Speaker 85 So, you know,

Speaker 34 I like the way you're framing that.

Speaker 34 So not, nothing's in, okay?

Speaker 46 It's placed on.

Speaker 34 All right. So no in.
You know, I don't like where you're

Speaker 34 trying to lead on that question. So, but could I tell Peyton? I could 100% tell it was Peyton for sure.

Speaker 34 Like other quarterbacks, you get a, I played the dude 13 years. So I would hope I would recognize the way that he would take a snap as opposed to everybody else.

Speaker 34 It is, and so I don't know the softness of his hand. I don't know any of that.

Speaker 78 None of that.

Speaker 34 And you know, this is my, this is, this is what Pete does every, by the way, he does this every year. He loves to take a little shot and just leave it out there.

Speaker 34 I mean, I've answered this question a thousand times this week, and he just sits back, sends a little text. Hope you enjoy that, right? Happy holidays.

Speaker 64 Merry Christmas to you and George.

Speaker 34 You know, I mean, that's he and Eli, bro. They love doing it.
They just, they, they set it up as well as anybody.

Speaker 42 Yeah. So

Speaker 69 another thing with, you know, you got your hands in or on.

Speaker 55 Guys, got a hand in or on your ass.

Speaker 34 I don't know if you saw this clip, but CJ Stroud a couple weeks ago made his center change his jersey in the middle of the game because he was too sweaty did did payton ever do that with you it's like such an emasculating thing to be like you're gross go change yeah no listen you you uh like especially early in the season when we when i first started playing in the nfl we were at the afce so we had like games in miami right and and even when we we started doing the jacksonville games late in the season and and dude you sweat i mean you're sweating and so it does it'll it'll mess with the snaps it'll mess with everything and so you got a couple pair of pants you can run in and jog in, or they have a towel they'll throw around you and you'll strip your pants.

Speaker 34 Now, I've never had to change my jersey. So obviously, whoever this is, swampy.

Speaker 34 I wasn't swampy like that, but I did have to change my pants, but not not the not the jersey, thank God. Yeah.

Speaker 46 I did see Tom Brady had his center. He would have like two towels that was just wedged up there the entire time.
Did you play with a towel?

Speaker 34 Yeah, I kept a towel on my side

Speaker 34 just for my own hands.

Speaker 34 And he kept, Peyton always kept a towel

Speaker 34 in his belt so he could wipe his hands. But we, you know, listen, man,

Speaker 34 we would talk about it. I would ask him, I mean, you know, like, you can't help the sweat, bro.

Speaker 84 Like, figure it out.

Speaker 34 You know what I mean? And listen, it don't bother me a bit. I don't worry about the sweat.
I don't worry about the smell. I don't worry about none of it.
I got a job to do.

Speaker 34 You figure the rest of it out. That's why you get paid the big bucks.

Speaker 46 Yeah. So, so, from your expert opinion, who would you say right now has the best offensive line in football?

Speaker 36 Oh, good question. Thank you.
Oh, man.

Speaker 34 That is a great question.

Speaker 8 Great question.

Speaker 85 Thank you.

Speaker 46 You don't even have to answer the question. That was perfect.

Speaker 26 That was a perfect answer.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 34 I mean, honestly, listen, because the Colts were balling. They, they were, their offensive line was playing really well.
Um, the Eagles, I would say the Eagles have to be up there.

Speaker 34 They've played excellent. Um, those are probably, those are probably the best that I would put in the group right now.
But here's the thing, like, Buffalo has actually had a really good O-line season.

Speaker 34 Like, they've played good ball. There's been some teams that have been kind of beaten up, you know, in years past about their O-line play that have really made some improvements.

Speaker 34 I think Dallas, as the season has progressed, they've gotten better. Like they've, you know, Smith on the inside has become dominant.
Like he, he had a freaking whale of a game against Philly, man.

Speaker 34 I mean, grabbing dudes, tossing dudes out the club. Like he's getting physical.

Speaker 34 But yeah, so probably the Eagles to me are probably the best. And, you know, but the problem with the Eagles is everybody's always hating.

Speaker 34 Dane Johnson always gets criticized about jumping early in the tush-push. Everybody gets pissed about that.

Speaker 34 But I like the way they play. I think they're freaking.
And Kelsey's Hall of Fame, freaking, you know, one of the greatest to ever do it. And I love watching that dude play.

Speaker 129 I would say

Speaker 46 it's not offsides unless they call it. If you're an offensive lineman, you take every single inch that they give you until they start throwing the flag and then you adjust.

Speaker 46 But yeah, if they're going to let you get away with it, then yeah, I want my tackle doing that same thing.

Speaker 34 Heck yeah. How stupid.
This is what drives me crazy. Everybody's like, well, it's it's cheating.
So is holding. I held every play.

Speaker 8 I'm not calling.

Speaker 34 If I'm not caught, but if you think I'm not going to, like, like Howard Mudd, our O-line coach, God rest his soul. He's like, God gave you thumbs for a reason.

Speaker 78 Use them, right?

Speaker 94 Like, make that guy do it.

Speaker 34 Like, you know, don't be stupid to get it. But if you're inside, you grip those guys.
Same thing for where you align. I mean, imagine this.
I tell people all the time,

Speaker 34 go for your job. Go line up and go block Miles Garrett and tell me you're not going to try to back up as fast as you can get the fastest.
This dude is 290 pounds running a 4-5

Speaker 34 and can bench press every bit of 500 pounds. Like, you want to go lock up with that dude? Like, give me a freaking

Speaker 129 sheet until they catch me, too.

Speaker 34 But I got and no shame in saying it. Yeah.

Speaker 46 I play hat-and-hat football. I'd put him on his ass.

Speaker 26 Yeah. I'd go forward, not backward.
Miles Garrett.

Speaker 46 Did you actually, would you adjust what color gloves you would wear so it would be harder for the referees to tell if you were holding?

Speaker 34 Oh, yeah. Yeah.
You'd go white or dark depending on what you had, for sure. Yeah, you'd go a white glove on a, you know, a home and away.

Speaker 34 you always made sure you didn't you didn't want now some dudes didn't because they they use like the uh they tape their gloves and they would put like the little cast in their gloves for their fingers so if their fingers are all mangled you know the boober mcfarlin you know fingers going everywhere so they put that stuff their splints in their gloves i changed

Speaker 34 i hated the way the gloves smelled so i was one of those guys i'd change them so if i was going against a white jersey you'd white them up and and vice versa you want to give you want to give the referees any uh you know don't give them any any advantage of seeing what you're doing that's very smart.

Speaker 53 All right, we're big gamblers on this show, and we like narratives.

Speaker 18 So this is a roundabout way to ask about your time with the Colts last year.

Speaker 39 We're big interim head coach guys, and you saw it.

Speaker 1 You obviously won your first game.

Speaker 53 Wasn't, you know, season wasn't great after that. But

Speaker 2 as you step in that room, can you feel the energy?

Speaker 108 Can you feel that guys are like, oh, yes, this is new?

Speaker 62 Like, they're running harder.

Speaker 26 They're going to the ball harder.

Speaker 22 Like, everything's crisper.

Speaker 104 Because we love it.

Speaker 53 Whenever an interim head head coach comes, you know that you've got a couple games where guys are going to be flying around and everything's going to look different.

Speaker 34 No doubt. So my, so we, so we, so from my experience, we go beat

Speaker 34 Vegas in Vegas and the dudes play lights out. And we had the Eagles at home.
And they were, I think they had either lost one or been undefeated. And we really, we lost on the last play of the game.

Speaker 34 Hurts runs it in and we made a mental error on defense and Hertz runs it in, but it was a tight game. We had to lead until the very end.
But 100%

Speaker 34 energy changes when an interim coach walks in. Because listen, like when coaches get fired, players get fired.

Speaker 64 That's just reality, right?

Speaker 34 Because the next guy's coming in, he's bringing his guys.

Speaker 34 You know, he wants bigger O-linemen or smaller O-linemen or pass rushers on defense, not run stoppers, different corners, whatever it is, right? He's going to have his own way.

Speaker 34 So it has definitely gotten the players' attention.

Speaker 34 I would tell you the hardest part is managing the other coaches because you know this is this is their lives and think about what they're going through you know like

Speaker 34 i i felt awful for the like i can't tell you how um i mean it would keep me up like it it literally gutted me thinking man these guys are going to lose their job at the end of this year and and it wouldn't have mattered how well like they weren't keeping their jobs if i did a good job or not like i'm not saying it that way but it's still it's a weight and and you feel it man and it's like god you just you you feel the it's it's a it is a difficult situation to go through and then in my situation and i guess it would be most others like whether it's a it's an assistant coach who's been on the staff like i i love frank i think frank's a hell of a football coach man i think he's a smart dude i think he i think he's one of the best play callers i've ever been around and i like him personally as a as a human being and as a man he's one of my favorite people so it's and and those other coaches went to work for him and those players came because of him, you know.

Speaker 34 So, it, yeah, you're working with a lot of emotion. Um, and it was one of, listen, I loved, I love doing it, I love the opportunity.
I could, I can't tell you how much I appreciate Indianapolis and

Speaker 34 what I got from that organization as a whole. I knew it was not going to be good.
Like, you don't go in thinking, I'm going eight and no, right?

Speaker 34 Like, like if you wanted to win games, Frank should have stayed there because he, you know, he would have given you the best chance. Uh, they wanted to make a move, and so they decided to go that way.

Speaker 46 Yeah, was there like one percent of you this year when the Colts fired Frank Reich that thought or the Panthers, yeah, I'm sorry, the Panthers fired Frank Wright, where he thought my phone.

Speaker 48 Maybe, maybe I'm gonna get a call, maybe let's see if we can run this back for one week.

Speaker 34 I would not have answered that call either way, but I would, I would, I would tell you this: I went about three days, and I don't know what I was doing, but I wasn't on uh Twitter or X, whatever it's called now.

Speaker 34 And uh, and I bring up my phone, and there was a thing Saturday, the Panthers had signed Saturday as the coach, or something like that. And I actually, I actually uh went back at the guy.

Speaker 34 I was like, this was well played, sir.

Speaker 64 And it blew up.

Speaker 34 It was good. It was, you know, it was well played, well timed.
But no, I had

Speaker 34 those calls would not have been. I'll answer for one team, and that's the one I did it for last year.
The rest of them, bro,

Speaker 34 that ain't for me.

Speaker 46 I do like to link you to every possible opening job, being like, just Saturday, probably getting a call. Come back to his interim, bring him in for one week and let him work his magic.

Speaker 46 When Jim Ursai called you, we're big Jim Ursai fans on this program.

Speaker 46 He got Dan Snyder out. We think he's an entertaining, engaged, unique individual, like a very, very unique owner.

Speaker 46 When he called you, did you at first think, like, is this a joke? Is he serious? Or what was the pitch like that he gave you?

Speaker 34 No, there was no joke.

Speaker 34 And to your point, if you know, I'm sure you've interviewed Jim or been around Jim. He is a fun and entertaining guy.
That conversation was not fun or entertaining. was, it was as, as

Speaker 34 demanding and forceful a conversation as I ever had with Jim. Like he was, he was, we're going to do this, you know, now

Speaker 34 let's get this figured out. I remember my wife looked at me and go, my wife was like, are you crazy? I mean, it's midnight or one o'clock or whatever time it was, super late.

Speaker 34 You know, it's Sunday night. I had been hunting with my youngest son and my wife.
Like we were hunting. I'd just come out of a field.

Speaker 34 I was, you know, like it was, it was, it was as surreal as it gets. And he's like, you know, I want to get this done.
And, you know, what, what is this? How is this going to look?

Speaker 34 And it was, but no, there was no playing around. It was, this is, this is what I expect.
Here's what my ask is. And I told him, frankly, I was like, hey, man, we're going to go 0-8.

Speaker 34 And, you know, just know, like, whatever your thoughts are, like, this ain't.

Speaker 34 And, and, I mean, I don't know, you know, I had helped with Frank talking about the O-line and stuff, but him, I know nothing. I don't know Matt.
I don't know. I don't know any of those guys, right?

Speaker 34 Like, it's so this is going to be, but, but Jim had made up his mind, and it was, it was as serious a conversation as I had ever had with Jim.

Speaker 34 And, and, uh, you know, again, you hope you never have another one like that. But it was, he was, he was for real.
He was, he was as locked in as I had ever seen him.

Speaker 16 Did you, last question about coaching last year?

Speaker 92 Did you ever have a moment?

Speaker 53 Because whenever we have an interim head coach and the team is bad out of the playoffs, um, did you ever have a moment down the stretch where you're like, fuck it, I'm going to go for it.

Speaker 70 Who cares? What's the worst can happen?

Speaker 26 Like, I like, I'm an on-site kicker. Who cares?

Speaker 34 Listen, bro, this, I had that moment a lot. I mean, it was, you know, it was like, what was the,

Speaker 34 you know, like, I never felt like, hey, whatever I'm going to do is going to be this massive. And, and even with, and this is the part that kills you is like the Minnesota game, right?

Speaker 34 Where we have, you know, it's like everybody comes back. It's a record setting.
You know, you had this lead and we blow the lead and do all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 34 And everybody, I said, they're like, what did you feel like at halftime? I was like, I was scared to death at halftime. And they were like, what?

Speaker 34 I was like, man, we had gotten the ball like four or five times. We didn't score a touchdown on offense.
We had to kick long field goals. We couldn't move it.

Speaker 34 And I felt like everything had been, you know, bounced our way. And in the second half, it started going their way.

Speaker 34 And I said, The best feeling I had was it was fourth and inches and or a 57-yard field goal. And Bubba and I, the special teams coach, who's not at Cleveland, I was like, Bubba, what do you think?

Speaker 34 He's like, I was like, I'm thinking of going. He's like, I would too.
That's a deep one right now. And so I was like, all right, perfect.
And we don't get it. Right.

Speaker 34 And the next play, they throw a screen to Justin Jefferson or to Dalvin Cook. And it's freaking yard.
Right. And now it's two-point conversion.
It's tied. It's whatever.

Speaker 34 And everybody's like, do you regret it? I'm like, heck no, I don't regret it.

Speaker 34 I'm going to put it all on the O-line every time. And think, so I never felt like that.
The only time I ever felt like.

Speaker 34 this was meant to be, you know, one and seven was the Houston game when we have them down like fourth and 20 twice. And, you know, they throw these bombs.

Speaker 34 And, you know, one time my DB jumps like at the five-yard line and it goes over his head. It's just, you know, you can't, it's like angels in the outfield, bro.
You can't script it anymore.

Speaker 34 I was like, well, sometimes you just ain't meant to be, bro.

Speaker 26 And that's why the Bears got their number one overall pick.

Speaker 87 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 26 And that's why we flipped it. It was

Speaker 53 one of my favorite games of the season.

Speaker 108 That probably was the best Bears game of the season.

Speaker 8 And they weren't involved.

Speaker 26 It was.

Speaker 42 I was the happiest I've been all year.

Speaker 34 My favorite part is the Texans fans and you all love me because of a few things that have happened. So that's

Speaker 34 whatever I can do to take that, take that negative and turn it to a positive.

Speaker 64 I'm all, I'm here for it.

Speaker 46 I love it. So give us your official prediction here.
Give us the AFC NFC championship games and your Super Bowl winner.

Speaker 8 We're going to hold you to it.

Speaker 34 I'll go. I think it's going to be,

Speaker 34 I hate writing Kansas City off, but

Speaker 34 I'm going to say KC and Baltimore in the AFC. I think Baltimore is going to go.
And

Speaker 34 I think San Fran,

Speaker 34 y'all are going to make me pick right. I'm picking way early.
I don't like doing it. I'll say, I know I'm taking San Fran and

Speaker 34 I'm going to take Philly. I'm going to take San Fran and Philly, and I'm going to take San Fran walking through it to play.
So it'll be San Fran and Baltimore in the chip. Ooh, I like that.

Speaker 8 And who you got?

Speaker 34 That'd be a great Super Bowl. I'm going San Fran.
I mean,

Speaker 34 health-wise, I'm just telling you,

Speaker 34 if they stay healthy,

Speaker 34 they are a tough out.

Speaker 34 You know what, y'all, like this.

Speaker 34 The one thing I learned that I would tell you I did not put nearly enough emphasis on as a coach or really as in the last 10 years that I haven't been playing is explosive plays.

Speaker 34 Like, if you look at any trend that really directs, even more than turnovers, that direct... games, wins, and losses, it's big plays.

Speaker 34 And right now, San Fran leads the league offensively and defensively.

Speaker 118 Yeah. Facts.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 46 I think they win a dude off if you just sit down and name dudes that they have.

Speaker 46 I think San Francisco has more dudes per capita than the other team.

Speaker 108 It was, yeah, we talked about it on Sunday.

Speaker 53 They had four guys go for plays over 40 yards.

Speaker 44 That's what they have.

Speaker 1 They have these guys that every single one of them can break a huge play on you.

Speaker 34 And boat, and they fight for each other.

Speaker 34 If you go back and watch like Kittle block downfield, Ayuk blocks downfield, Debo is leveling people downfield. Everybody's putting McCaffrey will push the pot.

Speaker 34 Like these dudes are about it for each other.

Speaker 34 And when you get, when the ball has to be dispersed as much as it is on their offense, like to get all those guys to buy in, I think Debo Samuel, like no one, I think he's an MVP, right?

Speaker 34 Because if you see the way he plays and like look at their team when he's not on the field, it's as it's as reflective as Tyreek Hill. Like this dude is, he is a freaking grown man, bro.

Speaker 34 And he is about it in all phases. He ain't afraid to lay his hat in there and make somebody hurt.

Speaker 64 I respect that guy.

Speaker 2 All right, a couple last questions.

Speaker 24 This one's a little weird.

Speaker 1 I was lucky enough, I was down in Indianapolis for the final four, I think in 2015.

Speaker 18 I was lucky enough to go to a dinner.

Speaker 119 I think it was at St. Elmo's.

Speaker 6 We sat downstairs in a private room, and they said it was Peyton's room.

Speaker 81 And they told me that Andrew Luck ordered chicken usually there.

Speaker 93 That made me concerned.

Speaker 29 I was like, uh-oh, nervous birds.

Speaker 115 Yeah.

Speaker 104 What was the private room like after a win?

Speaker 49 Because I would assume you were there a bunch.

Speaker 106 And what did Peyton usually order?

Speaker 34 Oh, stellar. But, you know, it was funny.
He, he, he actually has a couple of places there, downstairs and upstairs but it was uh yeah it he it always was like a um

Speaker 34 um uh more like apps being passed out right like like everything's gonna kind of be passed out spread around it's always gonna be a fantastic affair uh you know adult beverages would be flowing celebrations going on and then he had an apartment down there that we all would would uh would go to and and enjoy so um that's awesome

Speaker 34 we won a lot we had a good time man we we had a great, I tell people, we had, it was so much more about the relationships than anything else. That's why we were as good as we were.

Speaker 34 We all enjoyed each other, man. Our wives and, you know, significant others all got along and we all hung out.
And that was, you know, that's what made it so much more fun.

Speaker 34 It wasn't like one guy went one place. We all hung out.
And that was that was pretty special.

Speaker 92 The winning an NFL game on a Sunday and then going to dinner with the boys has to be a top feeling.

Speaker 34 No doubt. Yeah.
It is not.

Speaker 34 listen there is nothing better like when you because you think about it like you only you only get at the time it was 16 and so eight of them are at home your families are there and everybody understands that so like yeah man you know bring nana and paw paul right bring bring mimi and grappy whatever it is whatever whatever you call your people right it's like bring them let's and and so your family gets to experience situations and people they would never, you know, I remember the first time, you know, Kenny Chesney is chilling.

Speaker 34 And I remember my family,

Speaker 34 they love some country music. And they're like, holy crap, like that, that's Kenny Chesney.
I mean, you know what I mean?

Speaker 34 But the situations that they get a chance to be a part of that kind of become, you know, normalized

Speaker 34 for what you're doing for this short stint in your life. Man,

Speaker 34 it is an incredible feeling that you get the chance to share it with everybody.

Speaker 34 There is not a better feeling of winning in the NFL, like you said, and celebrating, man. It does not get better than that.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 46 My last question was going to be about Joe Flacco and the job that he's done with the Browns coming in almost like an interim quarterback, like three-quarters of the way through the season, stepping in.

Speaker 46 I would imagine that as an offensive lineman, he's a good guy to block for because you know he's not going to be moving around in the pocket. You know, he's going to take his drop back.

Speaker 46 He's going to get rid of the ball. Would you rather block for a guy like that or for a guy like a Russell Wilson who moves around a little bit, don't really know where he's going to be?

Speaker 46 Like Joe Flacco, I think what we're seeing is actually like sustainable in a weird way for this Browns offense.

Speaker 34 hundred percent. I'll take, I'll take the flacco, that the flacco model all day.

Speaker 34 Like I have no problems design rollouts, like what's saying for, you know, you're trying to get the quarterback out of the pocket or you're moving him to a certain place.

Speaker 34 We used to call it like waggle where the quarterback's going to line up, you know, maybe out or on where the tackle would normally be. I do not want a dude who's back there floating around.

Speaker 34 Like I want to know. He's six yards right behind where I started that snap, man.
We can all, we can all function and play understanding where he is.

Speaker 34 And also from the quarterback's perspective, knowing that he understands timing of when the ball has to come out. That's the part that Flacco does.

Speaker 34 I think people don't give him nearly enough credit is he's not a holder of the ball. Even some good ones there in the pocket, they'll hold that thing an extra second.

Speaker 34 Man, he manipulates the pocket extremely well and the ball is coming out.

Speaker 34 And from a from an O-line perspective, You not only do you fatigue the D line because they get worn out having to charge you, but they get pissed off. Like I can lit, I can remember.

Speaker 34 I mean, if I heard it one, I heard it a million times. Guys would be rushing Manning, and the ball would come out so fast, they would have to turn, transition, and go chase the ball, right?

Speaker 34 The pursuit drill on D, and they're exhausted, man. And they're like, Are you effing kidding me, bro? I gotta go chase this again.

Speaker 34 Like, I gotta, and even if it's a five-yard little pop pass, yeah, they got to turn and run. And man, from an offensive lineman, I love it.
It's as good as it's as good as a run game to me.

Speaker 34 Those dudes are getting tired. They're getting aggravated.
They're yelling at each other. Do this, get this.
You can't run games nearly as well.

Speaker 34 All of that happens because of a passer knowing where he's supposed to be in the pocket. And all the great ones do it, man.

Speaker 34 Whether it's Mahomes, whether it's Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, like, you know, Aaron Rodgers to a degree, like all those dudes get it. Ball has got to come out, man, on time.
And

Speaker 34 he's making a great offensive line look even better.

Speaker 46 I've never really thought about it from that perspective. But yeah, that would suck if you were a defensive player and you just had you rush for like three seconds.

Speaker 46 And then no matter what, you were going to have to stop and then turn around and run again.

Speaker 64 Oh, listen, I loved it.

Speaker 34 So, Bonnie Holiday, I played against him. I played with him at North Carolina.
He was a first-round pick. I think he played 17 years, but he played in Green Bay and a bunch of defensive linemen.

Speaker 34 And I used to tell Bonnie, hey, Bonnie, you never got a sack on me, bro. I locked you up.
He'd be like, Saturday, it's because he throws the ball in two seconds.

Speaker 34 I'd be pushing your little ass back, but I can't get it. I was like, hey, man, it all goes together.
No sacks, zero, 100 for me, zero for you. That's how we win, man yeah

Speaker 139 where those dudes get hot because they make money on sacks yeah so if they can't pressure get a sack dude they get frustrated and it fatigues them for sure yeah man i'll tell you what when you're hungry out there you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game making bad decisions messing up the basics being all out of sorts that's where snickers comes in man that thing is packed roasted peanuts nugget caramel milk chocolate it's like the mvp of candy bars and when you bite into it boom it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger.

Speaker 142 Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 37 Snickers satisfies, man.

Speaker 127 That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 This is really, we don't, it's not even a question. It's just fuck Duke.

Speaker 64 Absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah. Breach that.
Okay.

Speaker 84 All right. Yeah.

Speaker 53 That's all I wanted to say. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 104 I mean, they're losers, right?

Speaker 64 Losers. Yeah.
Losers. Dukes.
Losers. Losers.
Yeah. Losers.
Dorks.

Speaker 26 Losers. Just the worst.

Speaker 8 That's it.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 130 Wasn't even a question, just a statement.

Speaker 34 That's the greatest thing we've said all day.

Speaker 3 Well, Jeff, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 We love having you on, man.

Speaker 53 We'll definitely have you back on.

Speaker 62 And love watching you and talk about ball. And

Speaker 62 so thanks so much, man.

Speaker 34 Let's do it again soon, fellas. Appreciate y'all.
Have a great one. Happy holidays.

Speaker 115 Happy holidays.

Speaker 3 Thanks, Jeff.

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Speaker 124 Okay,

Speaker 124 let's wrap up.

Speaker 108 We got Fire Fest of the week.

Speaker 63 Great week, boys.

Speaker 8 Good week. Hank.

Speaker 125 You don't know what you're going to say. I was.

Speaker 7 No, the announcement was actually going to be that.

Speaker 46 Oh, you cucked yourself. I cucked myself.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, I guess the dump button, I kind of got yelled at by Dave this week. He was in the office.
Yeah.

Speaker 46 To be fair, though, nobody thought that Ben Mintz would need any sort of delay on a broadcast he was doing.

Speaker 73 Well, we all knew

Speaker 7 he needed a dump button. That was discussed.
Dave was like, he can't go on without a dump button.

Speaker 7 And conversations, I thought there was going to be a dump button, but the mistake was that when I found out there wasn't a dump button, I was. You laughed about it.

Speaker 85 All right.

Speaker 125 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Which in hindsight was a mistake.

Speaker 46 Which your job told me? But.

Speaker 7 In double hindsight,

Speaker 7 if you're looking back on your hindsight, it was actually a great move because the content that came out of it was fantastic.

Speaker 7 So it also, in a weird way, it was actually my best producing I've ever done.

Speaker 105 It also wasn't great when the VP of content was being asked about the lack of dump button, and he chuckled as he was getting warmed up for his

Speaker 26 morning 18.

Speaker 7 For a stream,

Speaker 46 you're playing golf. It's like, yeah, you know, there's not really any time to fix that.
So are we done here?

Speaker 125 Well, that we were about.

Speaker 70 Yeah.

Speaker 70 That was work.

Speaker 46 I thought that your Fire Fest was going to be that I beat you in golf.

Speaker 7 That happened as well, but that was work. So it was kind of just like, you know,

Speaker 7 you try not to bring the work stuff home and let it weigh on your mind.

Speaker 46 But I did beat you in golf, and you owe me, what, $190 worth of chilies? $290.

Speaker 46 $290 worth of chilies. Yes.

Speaker 118 Can I go with you?

Speaker 86 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 88 Hank's paying. Love it.
Love it.

Speaker 46 That's my announcement. Okay.

Speaker 18 PFT, your fire festival.

Speaker 85 Announcement slaps.

Speaker 46 Yeah, it does. It slaps.
Big fan. For sure.
Jake loves it.

Speaker 46 I had a pretty clean week, so I don't really want to complain too much.

Speaker 85 Clean-shaven week.

Speaker 46 Yeah. What's that?

Speaker 96 Like you shaved your face out.

Speaker 46 Yeah, no, that's definitely not a Fire Fest. My Fire Fest, doesn't look too good right now.
I look awesome. And it's making the haters jealous.

Speaker 125 That's a fact.

Speaker 7 I have one final question.

Speaker 8 Oh, no.

Speaker 7 Because, again, I was so not bored, but I was just like, I have ADD. I just

Speaker 7 get distracted. I can't sit still.
And I was just hyper-focused on the beard, the mustache, the color. I was trying to double-check.
I was pretty convinced.

Speaker 132 It looks great.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 46 Did you even it out today? No.

Speaker 7 Yesterday it looked very heavy on the left side and on the right side was a little bit lighter.

Speaker 46 Maybe that's the lighting. No, I did not

Speaker 46 I did not touch it today. I dyed it a few days ago.
I reapplied yesterday and I think that it got darker.

Speaker 73 So I think the longer it's to me I was like, is it dye?

Speaker 7 But I was like, it's so dark on the left side and it's not as dark on the right side. That was the tell.

Speaker 46 No, that's actually because on the right side, I don't think I have as much facial hair. Again, I am facebook.
I have the facial hair of

Speaker 46 like a 14-year-old.

Speaker 13 This is medical conditions.

Speaker 86 Be kind.

Speaker 46 So I'd appreciate it if you just stepped off. maybe it's jealousy yeah sounds like it could be jealousy but i've i've had a pretty good week overall um my fire fest is that i i am into

Speaker 46 a weird corner of tick tock recently so i was golfing with the beeve and jake last week and sorry you couldn't make it hank uh you were working golfing um but I got into magnet fishing and I've been watching tick tocks of magnet fishing for the last like five days.

Speaker 46 Do you know what magnet fishing is? I do not. So you take a magnet and you throw it into a river and then you just bring up whatever metal is at the bottom of the river.
It's usually guns.

Speaker 46 You find a lot of guns.

Speaker 92 Oh, yeah, I've seen this.

Speaker 116 In Amsterdam, it's sick.

Speaker 46 Yeah, it's pretty cool. You can find like bikes and shit, yes.
So I've been watching that because the beeve put me on to it, and me and the beeve just invested heavily in magnet fishing magnets.

Speaker 46 Love it. And so we're going to go out and try to do trying to find some guns.
You think there are any guns in the Chicago Rivers?

Speaker 39 Might be.

Speaker 46 Maybe one or two.

Speaker 90 Dave Matthews Poop.

Speaker 46 Dave Matthews Poop. Is that metal? Yeah.
It's too soft to be metal. I think it's going to be.

Speaker 57 Oh, no.

Speaker 52 Stop this.

Speaker 35 They're putting up pictures of Civil War generals.

Speaker 87 That looks nothing.

Speaker 26 It looks nothing.

Speaker 97 Max. I could see it.

Speaker 16 It's ridiculous.

Speaker 135 Listen,

Speaker 46 I did mention Blackbird early in this podcast. And if you've watched it, you probably are connecting some dots about the sideburns.
But Max is being a hater right now.

Speaker 46 And there's nothing that you can say to make me feel less good in my own body.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 46 I love this body. Yeah.

Speaker 46 So yeah, I'm into magnet fishing right now. That's good.

Speaker 46 And I think it's important to have hobbies and so my hobby is going to be finding guns nice i like that i'd like to to to come along one time yeah some magnet fishing uh okay my fire fest um

Speaker 46 i

Speaker 14 i live with terrorists not the not the sean mcdermott's kind um

Speaker 89 My kids are just like the, the, for all the dads out there, putting your kids to bed at night is like, uh, it's a war.

Speaker 57 And, uh, I'm losing bad.

Speaker 137 Yeah, so my my uh my four and a half year old son the other night uh there's no locks on the doors but i i i he was not going to bed i was like listen i'm locking your door he's like you can't lock my door i was like oh i can lock your door i'll find a way to lock your door and so he like it was actually kind of scary because he matter of fact looked me in the eyes he goes if you lock that door I'm going to scream so loud that no one is going to sleep.

Speaker 8 And I had, I immediately was like, all right, listen, the door thing, that was a lie.

Speaker 57 I was lying about that. I can't lock your door, but like, this is my night tonight where it's like, I, I'm, I'm helpless.

Speaker 46 What can you do against that?

Speaker 45 No, that was the scariest thing I've ever been a part of.

Speaker 90 He's like, I will scream so loud that everyone's going to wake up.

Speaker 46 That's actually, it's a genius move because you have no defense against that as a parent. You can't like cover his mouth.
Yeah, it's bad.

Speaker 40 You can't do anything.

Speaker 90 He also, every morning, I take him to school.

Speaker 35 I pick him up from school.

Speaker 133 And

Speaker 51 the only thing he wants to listen to is Taylor Swift.

Speaker 70 So, yeah.

Speaker 8 I like it.

Speaker 8 Yeah. It's a lot.

Speaker 99 I've listened to a lot of shake it off.

Speaker 6 It is funny, though, because he was like, is this the song about the bad guy?

Speaker 105 And I was like, yeah, that's every Taylor Swift song.

Speaker 46 Yeah, the guy that wronged.

Speaker 118 Yeah, the bad guy.

Speaker 61 The bad guy in every song.

Speaker 15 But yeah, I'm going through it. We're going to figure it out.

Speaker 18 Nighttime, I think everyone who's listening who's a parent knows

Speaker 86 it's a new adventure every night.

Speaker 46 All right, so I've got a puppy that's pretty much the same thing as raising a child. Yep.

Speaker 46 And when Blake is getting barky, what I like to do with him is I take either a bully stick which is just like a treat which i actually this this kind of sucks i found i made the mistake of googling what a bully stick was oh yeah it's bull penis it's bull penis yeah so you're just feeding your dog a bull's penis yes or i give him like a bone to chew on is there any way that you can just give your son something to chew on yeah and then he won't scream yeah maybe just take him for a walk yeah take him for a walk yeah let him poop outside jingle the keys in front of you yeah you want to go for a ride in the car throw a little throw a little toy squeaky toy yeah all right jake wrap wrap us up pretty clean week for me as well but my streak of not having a bathroom emergency during the show came to an end on Sunday night.

Speaker 127 Yeah.

Speaker 95 I had to run out right before the lottery draw.

Speaker 46 Was it P? No. It was Lamar.
I couldn't hold the P. Lamars Jakeson again.
Yeah.

Speaker 127 So reset the counter.

Speaker 133 Okay.

Speaker 13 We'll reset it. All right.

Speaker 60 Great show, boys. That was fun.

Speaker 46 Yeah, it was really fun. Thanks to all the boys for being supportive.
It's good having you guys in my corner.

Speaker 8 I love it.

Speaker 79 Okay.

Speaker 46 You do have a picture of a serial killer up on the screen.

Speaker 8 You're the one who brought that up.

Speaker 46 Here's the thing is like, you can't damage me because I think I look good. Yeah.
I think you look great. I think you're.
No, you don't. You're just a hater.

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Speaker 23 See everyone on Sunday night, Monday morning.

Speaker 85 Love you guys.

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Speaker 79 I hope you said it. It's about me stumbling away.

Speaker 79 Slowly learning that life is okay.

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