NFL Week 14, Fastest 2 Minutes, Cowboys Whomp The Eagles, Bills Stay Alive And Shohei Signs For 700 Million

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NFL Week 14 and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes then recap every game from Sunday with Sunday Night Football mixed in (00:00:00-00:09:47)

Ravens 37, Rams 31 (00:09:47-00:22:07)

Browns 31, Jaguars 27 (00:22:07-00:30:59)

Bengals 34, Colts 14 (00:30:59- 00:38:48)

Bucs 29, Falcons 25 (00:38:48-00:47:01)

Bears 28, Lions 13 (00:47:01-00:57:29)

Saints 28, Panthers 6 (00:57:29-01:04:16)

Jets 30, Texans 6 (01:04:16-01:09:14)

Vikings 3, Raiders 0 (01:09:14-01:17:52)

49ers 28, Seahawks 16 (01:17:52-01:33:20)

Broncos 24, Chargers 7 (01:33:20-01:38:13)

Bills 20, Chiefs 17 (01:38:13-01:57:07)

We then talk Shohei Ohtani, Lebron winning the In Season Tournament, Jayden Daniels Heisman and more. (01:57:07-02:12:33)


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Speaker 16 On today's part of my take, week 14 in the NFL.

Speaker 18 We've got some great games to discuss.

Speaker 20 The Bills stay alive.

Speaker 22 The Ravens look like maybe the one seed, depending on what the Dolphins do. We're going to talk Sunday night football.

Speaker 24 We also got to talk Shohei, $700 million man.

Speaker 22 We did it with Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 27 LeBron wins the most important title of his career.

Speaker 28 The first ever.

Speaker 29 The first ever. A lot of sports to talk about.

Speaker 30 Great sports week.

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Speaker 2 let's go.

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Speaker 2 And then a camp game all on the sun. Oh, no, we're gonna rock down to electric high venue.

Speaker 2 And then we'll take it higher.

Speaker 14 Welcome to part of my take.

Speaker 25 Today is Monday, December 11th

Speaker 25 week 14.

Speaker 34 Thanks taking pictures of us, Teach.

Speaker 37 We start in the windy city where DJ Mandy Moore took a walk to Remember into the end zone for an early Bears lead. Jameer Mr.

Speaker 37 Pibbs opened up a can and found the end zone to bring the Lions back before halftime.

Speaker 37 But it was all Bears in the second half as the Lions fell asleep desperately in the need of a cup of Jared Goffey to wake up their attack.

Speaker 37 A Josh Dennis Reynolds touchdown was the last scoring the Lions would do as Detroit's Dennis system stands for defense?

Speaker 42 Eh, no, no, I don't know.

Speaker 34 Sometimes?

Speaker 43 And the Bears are back.

Speaker 37 Bears 28, Lions 13.

Speaker 34 Whoop! Whoop.

Speaker 34 Over to Cleveland, where the Cleveland Browns have no limit to their Super Bowl hopes behind their not-so-juvenile quarterback. Joey looks good.
Won't you flack that ass up?

Speaker 34 You got David Njoku, would you flack that ass up?

Speaker 13 Browns in the playoffs, won't you flack that ass up?

Speaker 34 Joe, who is you playing with? Flack that ass up.

Speaker 34 Trevor Bower Lawrence's injuries were not nearly the same as originally reported in the media, as he connected twice with the goatsy Evan Ingram to really stretch out the Browns' red zone.

Speaker 34 Kevin Spacey Stefanski took advantage of the young Jags D. And don't tell nobody, but Cleveland is thinking yoffs.
The Browns 31, the Jaguars 27. Playoffs? Blayoffs?

Speaker 32 Blayoffs?

Speaker 46 In Cincinnati, where we had the marquee matchup of Gardner and Browning, also known as an Italian picking tomatoes in the summer, Ronnie Harrison Ford crashed into a Bengals player and took away the ball, landing safely in the end zone to make it 14-14 going into halftime.

Speaker 30 That's when the Bengals use their secret weapon.

Speaker 46 La Crosse player and yacht club member Tanner Hudson to take the lead 21-14 and never look back.

Speaker 44 Are the Bengals on a magical run?

Speaker 33 Huh?

Speaker 29 Bengals 31.

Speaker 50 Colts 14.

Speaker 34 We go down to Atlanta where Desmond Schitter soiled the Dirty Birds diaper once again despite the best effort of Drake London, who tried to get his hands on a milly bobbly brown balls.

Speaker 34 Laker Mayfield is looking to win the meaningless end-season tournament that is the NFC South. And as bad as these Falcons look, Bijan F.

Speaker 34 Kennedy Robinson shouldn't be planning any parades anytime soon, running for only 34 yards.

Speaker 34 Rashad Walter White methed around and cooked up a whole bunch of speed as Todd Poles stood absolutely still like a Hank Lockwood-designed parking lot and let Arthur Smith's team drive right into him.

Speaker 34 Bucks win 29-25.

Speaker 16 Going over to the AFC East, we have our correspondent means

Speaker 53 in the Meadowlands.

Speaker 54 We head to a soggy MetLife Stadium where Zach Wilson said, I'm tired of this, Grant Salah. Well, that's too damn bad.
You keep playing.

Speaker 55 Garrett Owen Wilson said, wow, look what happens when they finally throw me the ball.

Speaker 54 Randall Cobby the Elf found himself free in the end zone for a touchdown. Will McDonald had a sack.

Speaker 57 E-I-E-I-O. And with that sack, there came a win.
E-I-E-I-O, Jets 30, Texas 6.

Speaker 13 Back to the games.

Speaker 39 Thank you, Memes from Meadowlands, sticking on the East Coast.

Speaker 37 We go to Baltimore, where the Ravens answered the question: Are they likely to miss Mark Andrews with a resounding no, as Isaiah scored early?

Speaker 37 The Rams offense, featuring Cooper, two girls, one cup, made the Ravens' defense won a puka most of Sunday, but the game went to overtime where Tylon Rasheed Wallace said, ball don't lie, and returned a punt for the walk-off, proving Lamarsh Jakeson was the best in the office today.

Speaker 34 Ravens 37, Rams 31. Whoop! Whoop!

Speaker 34 We go out to the bay where Brock Old Party Bastard, hut one, hut two, hut three, hut, old party bastard live and uncut.

Speaker 40 The Seahawks released their Druclare missile as Drew Locke came out firing in the first drive and hit DK Adams Metcalf for a touchdown, trying to shut the door on the Niners like it was an oversized suitcase.

Speaker 34 Placebo Samuel said, I want you to take two and call me in the morning as he gave the Seahawks a heavy dose of ass whooping. The Niners 28, the Seahawks 16.

Speaker 37 We finish in Kansas City where Rashee Condoleezza Rice was tipped off ahead of time about the threat of the Buffalo Bill Qaedas to no avail.

Speaker 37 The game came down to the last drive where Patrick Mahomes came up short and was furious at the refs after the game. We go down to the sideline with Patrick.

Speaker 44 Patrick.

Speaker 34 I'm just so ticked off with Sean McDerbert, man. You know,

Speaker 34 the Bills are

Speaker 34 building seven games in the win column now. That's what Chris Alex Jones was saying.
And if it wasn't for that Patriot act in late October, they would be in the playoffs.

Speaker 20 Meanwhile, Roger Goodnell loves it.

Speaker 50 He loves the Bills.

Speaker 34 He sure does. He's reading my pet goat, and it's all about Josh Allen, the way they were protecting him today out there.
I rock my brain, and I think we were so distracted by the NFL.

Speaker 34 We missed out on the NBA mid-season tournament and Halliburton gobbling up all the profits.

Speaker 34 I think back to the 2000 election, just like Osama bin Laden, Sean McDermott saw himself in the middle of the East, and now he's going to New York with a W in his pocket.

Speaker 34 That sound just ticked off.

Speaker 61 Thank you, Patrick.

Speaker 37 That was Patrick Rohans from the sideline. Bills 20, Chiefs 17.

Speaker 43 Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston down in Nola.

Speaker 28 Such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 43 It's a broken rib, my lord.

Speaker 28 another broken rib my lord another broken rib for the saints qb it's jimmy gram

Speaker 65 he's the man

Speaker 59 people forget that he's a ginger and his soul's a shame

Speaker 28 the saints go marching 28 6 i think that was the score 28 6 i was right and that is week 14 fastest two minutes hey it's pft here reminding you that Boarshead makes game day entertaining elevated and effortless.

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Speaker 68 Okay, week 14 in the books.

Speaker 26 We are watching Sunday Night Football live on the show.

Speaker 25 So, everyone who wanted Max reactions, you'll get them.

Speaker 70 We also, before we get into all the games, PFT, we're in a weird situation where usually I'm the one trolling Max.

Speaker 8 You partake as well.

Speaker 20 But it's actually Hank right now.

Speaker 72 It's Hank vs. Max.

Speaker 74 Cowboys fan Hank has come out of hibernation for this game, for this big Sunday night football game.

Speaker 76 I think for the rest of the year. For the rest of the year? Yeah.

Speaker 77 I just love the people at Dallas.

Speaker 78 It's a great fan base, great fans.

Speaker 28 You do, yeah. You certainly do.
But that, you show them a lot of affection. Yeah, no, that's a great.

Speaker 78 I just kind of realized it was fun last year, and I'm ready to get back on and ride.

Speaker 28 Why aren't you wearing the outfit, though? Where are the Jorts?

Speaker 79 Jordans.

Speaker 78 I don't know where the Jorts are. The Jordans are at my apartment.
Shane has the Dak jersey. I probably have to get some.
I'm going to get some new gear, though. How about your earring?

Speaker 80 I don't know where you're going. You got to ride your boys.
Yeah.

Speaker 81 It's time, filthy animal.

Speaker 39 That's the season.

Speaker 28 It's time to ride our boys.

Speaker 11 I love it. I love it.

Speaker 83 All right.

Speaker 53 So, yeah, we will update the game.

Speaker 85 It's 27-13 right now, heading into the fourth quarter.

Speaker 39 We will update it.

Speaker 26 Max has quit like 16 different times.

Speaker 47 Looks like he's going to cry.

Speaker 24 He looks like he's going to cry.

Speaker 8 He's got his resting cry face on.

Speaker 21 He looks as greasy as ever.

Speaker 26 Just, it's a bad scene for Max if the Eagles can't have a heroic comeback.

Speaker 28 So the Cowboys just punted, and that was their first time punting the ball in, I believe, 17 drives.

Speaker 28 So that goes back to Thanksgiving.

Speaker 28 Their last punt was the third quarter against the Washington Commanders on Thanksgiving. And so the first half was just a butt kicking, but it looks like the Eagles found a spark.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 28 They did. Even though Max isn't paying attention to it.

Speaker 91 Devontae Smith just dropped a touchdown.

Speaker 74 Make sure you just put memes.

Speaker 8 Can you cut to Max's face just so people can get a sense of the rest and cry face that we're looking at? I just want people to be able to see it.

Speaker 94 It's just my face.

Speaker 95 No, your face looks like it's going to cry at all times.

Speaker 51 All right, but we'll get to it once the game goes final.

Speaker 82 And if there's a big play, we'll...

Speaker 48 Oh, there's the cry face. He's crying again.

Speaker 68 Let's get into some games, PFT.

Speaker 16 This was a fun Sunday.

Speaker 28 It was a very fun Sunday.

Speaker 49 It was a fun, fun Sunday.

Speaker 28 A lot of good games, a lot of bad games that were good.

Speaker 96 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 66 And there was no better game in the early slate than the Ravens 37, Rams 31.

Speaker 63 That was an awesome, awesome awesome game.

Speaker 51 Like,

Speaker 98 it was a lot of fun to watch.

Speaker 89 We've had a couple Sundays where it started slow, but it felt like this game was good from the jump.

Speaker 100 And the Ravens now have a stranglehold on the one seed.

Speaker 85 Obviously, the Dolphins still have to play, but they play each other in a couple weeks.

Speaker 85 But with the Chiefs losing and the Jags losing, it's really down to the Ravens and the Dolphins for the one seed.

Speaker 84 A win they had to have.

Speaker 69 And they got with a punt return walk-off, which is one of the most electric things that can happen in sports.

Speaker 28 Yeah, and I'd say that this is a a moral victory for the Rams, too.

Speaker 62 Yes. Rams played tough.

Speaker 28 Rams are probably pretty pumped to go to overtime against the Ravens, and they played a good game. It didn't feel like it was a fluke.
They've got great players.

Speaker 28 Puka Nakua playing in this game in the dog shit precipitation with no gloves on.

Speaker 105 No gloves.

Speaker 28 Taped his fingers. Oh,

Speaker 28 he's a dog. That one diving catch that he had, I'm putting that, that's my catch of the year so far.
Wow.

Speaker 28 When you take into account everything around it, with the weather and the stage and who it was against, that's my catch of the year so far with Puka Nakua.

Speaker 8 That was was an unbelievable catch, and he's so much fun to watch.

Speaker 49 And yeah, I, we, because we were watching all the games, so then when they show that play, and we all gasped at him catching that, and then in slow motion, like, wait, he's not wearing gloves.

Speaker 51 What the fuck?

Speaker 28 Feels better, skin on skin.

Speaker 8 I don't understand that because the way they make the receiver gloves now, it's it is like the easiest thing to catch a ball.

Speaker 28 Yeah, he's playing the game on expert mode right now. That's how good his rookie season's been.

Speaker 84 Yeah, uh, but I did, I wrote down Rams played tough.

Speaker 52 Like, that was a game.

Speaker 108 We've seen it with the Ravens.

Speaker 53 They've hosted a couple teams that were, quote-unquote, for real with the Lions and the Seahawks and absolutely killed them.

Speaker 53 There was a chance going into this day where it's like this could happen again to the Rams.

Speaker 58 They went toe-to-toe with them.

Speaker 110 It really was just kind of clock management at the end, and then that delay a game they took in overtime to make it from a fourth and four to a fourth and sorry, a third and four to a fourth and

Speaker 101 nine and having to punt, that was the game.

Speaker 100 It was like little minor errors where the game was high-played, so it was like you can't.

Speaker 102 They also blew like like three coverages where the where it felt like the Ravens had multiple times where guys were just wide open.

Speaker 28 Likely was wide open on that.

Speaker 112 Wide open.

Speaker 28 That's that was he was college open on that one. We also had a couple great just small moments in the game.
Lamar kicking the ball into the stands on the safety. He kicked the fuck out of that ball.

Speaker 113 Also, is Lamar ambidextrous?

Speaker 45 I think so.

Speaker 1 So that's the second time we've seen him kick a ball and they both have been left-footed.

Speaker 28 So I'm pretty sure that Lamar Jackson is better with his offhand than like 99% of the population is with their stronghander foot.

Speaker 114 Because he did that, I think it was like a year or two ago.

Speaker 115 It was a play that was whistled dead and he punted it and he punted it with his left foot. And then today he punted the, or he kicked the safety out with his left foot.

Speaker 62 He might, he should start throwing left.

Speaker 45 Or kicking.

Speaker 28 Well, actually, no, so Justin Tucker, we said last week Young Wei Ku surpassed him as the most active kicker in the NFL. Yeah.

Speaker 112 Tucker took it back. Yeah.

Speaker 28 He heard the people talking. He took it back this week.

Speaker 28 That was nice to see. I don't think Young Wei who's off to a nice start, but Justin Tucker's, at one point, was worth a first-round pick as a kicker or more.

Speaker 28 But also, we had a great challenge throw from Harbaugh. Harbaugh really

Speaker 32 absolutely launched it.

Speaker 28 I would try to hit the ref if I was a coach and I had a challenge flag.

Speaker 118 Where are you at with the Ravens?

Speaker 7 I feel like the Ravens

Speaker 49 are the team in the AFC now that has maybe the least amount of, because the Dolphins, I believe in the Dolphins, but you can make the argument they still have not beaten a team over 500.

Speaker 1 The Ravens at their best have looked really, really good.

Speaker 85 And they also, in a weird twist of fate, seem like the team that is the healthiest.

Speaker 28 Which is crazy. What happened to Hamilton today?

Speaker 8 Although Mark Andrews is out, and that is big.

Speaker 53 But Hamilton went out with the Knights.

Speaker 28 Hamilton went out with a knee injuries in MRI.

Speaker 13 But the quarterback helped him.

Speaker 28 They're getting healthier. Right.
And they're going to get a big free agent pickup in Andrews at the end of the season.

Speaker 19 So, yeah, no, I believe in the Ravens.

Speaker 28 I think the Ravens are the best team in the AFC.

Speaker 103 It's them or the Dolphins that we get to find out in a couple weeks.

Speaker 28 Yeah, we're going to find out. But as of right now, gun to my head, Ravens.

Speaker 99 The Ravens, their defense. Yes.

Speaker 110 And this is just more of a credit to Sean McVay because he feels like we should do the conversation that this might be Sean McVay's best coaching job because it is a group that is not like

Speaker 47 star-studded.

Speaker 27 It's not like the Super Bowl team.

Speaker 107 Their defense is a lot of young guys and Aaron Donald.

Speaker 27 And their offense, I mean, Puku Naku was, what, a fifth-rounder?

Speaker 8 And it just, and Kyron Williams, like they, they just time and time again, Sean McVay just schemes everyone open and has an offense work that is incredible.

Speaker 28 And they've got draft picks this year. Maybe they're going to have some stuff to bundle up and trade for an active player.

Speaker 103 I also, this has nothing to do with the actual football game, but it's just as important.

Speaker 122 I love when a coach, when there's bad weather, decides to go full-on deadliest catch outfit.

Speaker 8 And Sean McVay did that today.

Speaker 2 He had like the full blue rainsuit,

Speaker 29 looking like he was about to like, like perfect storm, just hit the biggest hurricane ever.

Speaker 123 And I think it rained for maybe like a quarter.

Speaker 124 I like that too.

Speaker 20 They just look so funny.

Speaker 28 You got to go one of two ways, I think, with it. One, I like when you get dressed up in a poncho and you look like you're going to a Gallagher concert.

Speaker 28 The second way I like is when the coach just pretends that the weather doesn't exist. Yes.
Like Daybull's done that a few times. Yes.
Where he's just like, you know what?

Speaker 28 I'm just going to head-butt the rain until the rain quits. I'm just going to stay here and make it hit me until it's sick of hitting me.

Speaker 28 Speaking of that, Aaron Donald, when he's getting like triple-teamed over the course of a game on almost every play, do you think at any point the offensive linemen feel bad when there's just three of them beating the shit out of him every single season?

Speaker 8 No, because then he just turns around and beats the shit out of them next time that he has a chance.

Speaker 28 Every time he gets the opportunity.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think they're like, this is nice that we finally have a chance to beat his ass.

Speaker 28 The game plan was just don't let Aaron Donald beat you. Yeah.
That's what the Ravens were trying to do with their offensive line. But yeah, no, I think the Ravens are the best team in the AFC.

Speaker 28 I think I would say that they're better than the Dolphins right now. We'll see what happens with them.

Speaker 87 But yeah,

Speaker 28 Ravens are legit, legit.

Speaker 45 And also,

Speaker 28 on the challenge flag that Harbaugh threw, it was my favorite kind of coach's challenge, which was he was just mad at the result of the play, which was a touchdown. Right.
A very obvious touchdown.

Speaker 28 And he just needed to get some rage out real quick. So he threw the challenge flag about 50 yards.
They looked at it for like 10 seconds and said, yeah, that's definitely a touchdown. Sorry.

Speaker 100 Yeah, and the Ravens, by the way, they have

Speaker 49 a tough schedule coming up. So we'll find out how for real they are, which I do, I agree with you.

Speaker 71 I think they're the best team in the NFC right now.

Speaker 58 They go at Jaguars, Sunday Night Football, Niners, Dolphins, Steelers.

Speaker 126 Steelers, not so much.

Speaker 67 I also, we've been talking about it.

Speaker 21 Speaking of the Steelers,

Speaker 115 teams that we don't want to see in the playoffs, I do want to see the Rams in the playoffs.

Speaker 28 Are you saying

Speaker 28 if you're an NFC team?

Speaker 14 No, just in terms of enjoyment of the playoffs.

Speaker 28 Gotcha. I thought you were doing the you don't want to see them in the playoffs.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 42 I'm saying enjoyment of the playoffs, like first-round matchups.

Speaker 20 We.

Speaker 1 The Rams is a team.

Speaker 100 The Rams are a team that I wouldn't mind watching play more football.

Speaker 119 I don't really want to see the Vikings or the Seahawks, no offense to both those teams, play more football because I feel like the Rams have just a different gear that they can.

Speaker 26 It's probably just because of the quarterback when I mentioned the Seahawks and the Vikings.

Speaker 122 Like Stafford could beat anyone

Speaker 8 if he's on his A-plus game.

Speaker 28 Stafford did a very unnecessary sidearm pass today.

Speaker 28 He likes to whip that out every time.

Speaker 60 It was kind of like a...

Speaker 28 Because he's like, you know what? I want to give Dan Orlovsky some red meat so that he can really glaze me up when he sees me on NFL live this week. So let's just do a sidearm pass for no reason.

Speaker 27 It was kind of a LeBron no-look where he does the no-look where he's looking and then he just whips his head at the last second.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 8 He kind of did that where he was definitely looking, did a sidearm and then whipped his head around like, see that?

Speaker 104 No-look.

Speaker 28 But to your point, looking at the NFC, there's really no team that I want to see fill that last spot in the NFC. So if I were to say pick one of them, probably the Rams.

Speaker 96 I'm just talking about, yeah, enjoyment of watching football.

Speaker 28 Definitely nobody from the NFC South. I hope nobody makes it from that division.

Speaker 26 Yeah, I hope they just eliminate the family.

Speaker 28 Not Green Bet. You know who I'd like to see?

Speaker 128 Yeah, the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 28 The Chicago Bears.

Speaker 92 We can talk about it in a little bit.

Speaker 28 It's possible.

Speaker 28 I've charted out a path. It's possible.
I've charted out a path. It's unlikely to be possible.
I guess the real question is, would you rather see the Rams or the Seahawks in the playoffs?

Speaker 28 And the answer is the Rams. The answer is the Rams.

Speaker 89 The answer is the Rams.

Speaker 123 Okay, next game.

Speaker 19 Drew Lock, though. No.

Speaker 126 No, Drew Lock. No, Drew Lock.

Speaker 130 Big cap, before Dolphins Twitter comes after you, their win over the Broncos is now against a team over 500.

Speaker 115 No, they didn't beat beat a team over 500 at the time of the team.

Speaker 56 Well, at the time, yeah.

Speaker 81 Yeah, that's when it counts.

Speaker 130 Yeah, I guess, I mean,

Speaker 81 you got to beat a team in

Speaker 28 the 2004 over 500. No, you got to, it's at the time.
At the time. Yeah, and I think what the closest is.

Speaker 6 It's the time you play them.

Speaker 28 The Raiders were the closest.

Speaker 79 Yeah, but now

Speaker 94 they win.

Speaker 1 No, it's got to be when you play them.

Speaker 39 They have to be over 500.

Speaker 32 No, they call it over 500.

Speaker 28 Because those Broncos were not these Broncos. Right.

Speaker 90 Yeah, but there's not Broncos.

Speaker 133 You've got to be fucking me.

Speaker 47 That was was a flag.

Speaker 90 Max, that was a flag.

Speaker 50 All right.

Speaker 73 That was a flag.

Speaker 23 Yeah, no, you have to be over 500 when you play them.

Speaker 98 That's beating a team under 50.

Speaker 51 I mean, I guess it's different.

Speaker 94 Beating a team under 500.

Speaker 131 Right, but if this is college,

Speaker 51 it's a good win.

Speaker 85 You're talking a net rating?

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Quad ones, in terms of the computers? Quad ones, quad twos?

Speaker 51 Moves to a quad one win now.

Speaker 83 And that looks favorable.

Speaker 130 And you beat a quad one team by 50.

Speaker 125 Max, Max, talk to us, Max.

Speaker 91 Talk to us, Max.

Speaker 18 Use your words.

Speaker 9 I mean, the Cowboys have gotten bailed out on every fucking drive.

Speaker 51 Yeah, that was the cry.

Speaker 28 That sounded like it was not live, Max. That sounded like it was a Max soundboard.

Speaker 134 Yeah, that was

Speaker 134 AI. We should start.

Speaker 43 We should make a Max soundboard.

Speaker 97 I would love a Max soundboard going forward.

Speaker 79 I love the yes. Yes.

Speaker 130 He's closing the gap on Marv Albert for your best yes chant.

Speaker 42 Yeah, we haven't heard any really in the last two weeks.

Speaker 126 He's been void of yeses.

Speaker 103 Okay, next game up.

Speaker 39 Browns 31, Jaguars, 27.

Speaker 28 Joe Flacco, elite, three touchdowns, 26 for 45.

Speaker 74 Only one bad Joe Flacco pass, interception.

Speaker 51 Joe Flacco,

Speaker 52 he's commanding the Browns offense, and he has been named starter for the rest of the year.

Speaker 28 Yeah, we're getting ahead of ourselves a little bit. I think we all just assumed he was going to be starter for the rest of the year.
I sit out and say it out loud. It's a different thing.

Speaker 85 I said that Kevin Savancy should not have done that because the Browns quarterbacking is like the drummer for Spinal Tap this year, where it's like, as soon as you name a starter, they get injured.

Speaker 61 So I hope that doesn't happen to Joe Flacco.

Speaker 51 Yeah.

Speaker 15 But yeah, you could have just, you could have just let it go.

Speaker 28 If you're a Browns quarterback in general, it's like you're an extra and final destination. Yeah.
It's a matter of when, not if. That jersey is going to look sick with Flacco on it, though.

Speaker 28 That's a great name to just look back on and remember for a while.

Speaker 49 Yeah, and it's also, so the Browns now have won a game with four different starters this year.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's Perseverance.

Speaker 28 So from Browns PR, Joe Flacco was the first Brown to throw three touchdown passes of at least 30 yards in the same game since any guess when?

Speaker 60 1980.

Speaker 81 Long time. I would not have gone 1980.
Long time.

Speaker 28 You remember Brian Sipe? Yep. Don't you? You remember Brian Sipe, that legend? Dude, he slung it.
Yeah, 43 years since the Browns have done that. Flacco is...

Speaker 28 Flacco's taking this offense and putting it in demon time. Yeah.
Because the offense is moving the ball well. Flacco can still sling it.

Speaker 72 He was moving around a little bit today.

Speaker 28 He's like playing his way back into shape a little little bit where he's like, oh, yeah, this is what running is.

Speaker 115 Well, more than anything, it is that Joe Flacco can, you know, read a defense.

Speaker 8 He knows when a blitz is coming.

Speaker 10 Like, and I'm not, that's not a knock on DTR and PJ Walker, but Joe Flacco has seen a lot of football.

Speaker 119 So, like, little things.

Speaker 101 I think one of those long touchdowns was like a third and one where they tried to blitz and he saw it and like perfectly read it.

Speaker 84 And it's like, those are plays that Joe Flacco can give you that maybe one of these younger quarterbacks isn't really there to do it for.

Speaker 30 And because the Browns have a defense as good as they do, which is elite at home, and they're banged up, they didn't have Denzel Ward today.

Speaker 129 They didn't have Juan Thornhill.

Speaker 42 Miles Garrett is still banged up, and they still were taking the ball away, making Trevor Lawrence like, what do he had, three picks?

Speaker 28 Yeah, J.O.K. was outstanding today.
Yeah,

Speaker 80 they're just...

Speaker 49 A really good football team, and I'm excited for Browns fans.

Speaker 28 They are. Flacco is now 10-2 in that stadium all the time.
And the thing about Joe is he doesn't really have any emotions whatsoever. Like when he won the Super Bowl, he like smiled.
Right.

Speaker 79 And he thought

Speaker 28 I'm about to get $200 million, which was pretty cool. And he smiled.
He gave us that. But

Speaker 28 when he's under pressure, when there's guys blitzing him, he doesn't really panic because his resting heart rate is just constantly like 50 beats per minute, whether he's winning a Super Bowl or whether he's getting eaten alive by Josh Allen on the defensive line.

Speaker 28 So he was

Speaker 28 what we expect Joe to be. He's what I expect Joe to be.
Miles Garrett agrees. They asked him about Joe Flacco's play.
He just smiled and said, he's elite.

Speaker 47 He is. He's elite.
He's elite.

Speaker 28 I call him Baldinger's cat because he's both elite and not elite at the same time. And he makes everybody furious depending on what your take on Joe Flacco is.

Speaker 28 And here's how the conversation always goes: Is Joe Flacco elite?

Speaker 25 Yes.

Speaker 28 Why? He won a Super Bowl. So did Trent Tilfer.
Yeah. And that's the end of that conference.

Speaker 19 That's it. That's it.
Every single time.

Speaker 89 Or no.

Speaker 58 He won a Super Bowl. But he won a Super Bowl.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 13 But so did Trent Tilfer.

Speaker 28 And then that's the end of the cup. Yeah,

Speaker 18 you can do like a chart.

Speaker 15 It's choose your own adventure. Yes or no.
It always ends up with, but so did Trent Dilfer.

Speaker 28 It's choose your own adventure in a flow chart. And the last one.
Can we make that chart, actually? Your guide to having, to talking to your family about Joe Flacco.

Speaker 66 Yeah, this is why we talked about Trent Dilfer flipping out on sidelines.

Speaker 107 I think that he has rage just because he always is the ending of the Joe Flacco conversation.

Speaker 125 Yep.

Speaker 1 Trent Dilfer, when he saw Joe Flacco coming back, was like, God fucking damn it.

Speaker 114 Now we're going to do this again.

Speaker 49 We're just going to talk about the fact that I won a Super Bowl, but I really, it wasn't me, it was the defense.

Speaker 60 Yeah, if you look at

Speaker 28 the outcome of that Super Bowl, the person that had the worst was not Kaepernick. It was not Harbaugh, or I should say, Jim Harbaugh.

Speaker 28 The person who had it the worst was Trent Dilford, without a doubt.

Speaker 112 Yes.

Speaker 101 Yes. And,

Speaker 27 I mean, Joe Flacco was a lot better than Trent Dilford.

Speaker 134 Way better.

Speaker 18 That pass he made in Denver.

Speaker 28 Way better.

Speaker 28 But yeah, the Browns are for real.

Speaker 8 Now, the Jaguars, on the other side, their defense has gone away.

Speaker 100 That was the thing that, you know, I think a lot of people early in the season were like, wow, the Jags' defense, like, it's paired with Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 29 And Trevor Lawrence wasn't good today.

Speaker 73 I still don't know what happened with his ankle.

Speaker 99 It felt like maybe he shouldn't have played because he didn't play well.

Speaker 127 He played well at the end.

Speaker 27 He put together a couple drives at the end, but

Speaker 85 the Jaguars feel like they're a smoke and mirrors team.

Speaker 110 Yeah.

Speaker 137 And

Speaker 102 we're starting to kind of get through the fog and we're like, hey, wait a second.

Speaker 68 Why did we anoint the Jaguars?

Speaker 28 Oh, because Pete Prisco? I was going to say the reason why we're having that conversation about the Jaguars, we shouldn't be talking about the Jaguars as being frauds.

Speaker 28 We should be talking about the Jaguars in terms of taking that next step.

Speaker 28 This year is the next step year for the Jaguars, but because Prisco had to open his big mouth about it, now we're looking at it as the Jaguars are frauds. It's all about perspective.

Speaker 28 Pete skewed everybody's perspective with his Jaguars Super Bowl talk.

Speaker 26 But the next step would be winning two playoff games.

Speaker 110 I don't see them winning two playoff games.

Speaker 25 Do you?

Speaker 134 No.

Speaker 84 They would have to, right?

Speaker 98 If the playoffs started today, they would play the Browns.

Speaker 28 You could make the case that the next step is

Speaker 28 not necessarily winning those playoff games, but just putting up like 11 wins in a season.

Speaker 85 Yeah, but they did win a playoff game last year.

Speaker 71 They did.

Speaker 111 And they, you know, they went and played against the Chiefs admirably.

Speaker 28 They showed up.

Speaker 42 It was an admirable performance.

Speaker 28 They showed up. They put together.

Speaker 104 Those terrible uniforms.

Speaker 129 They have some bad uniforms.

Speaker 28 They had one great half of football in the playoffs last year.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So, yeah, I just don't. I don't really take the Jaguars for real.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 60 Let me ask you this, guys.

Speaker 106 It's unfortunate because I like, you know, I love our guy Chaps.

Speaker 8 We know Dougs.

Speaker 102 Duval seems like the coolest place.

Speaker 16 They have another night game.

Speaker 119 If they can beat the Ravens on Sunday night, it kind of is a pivot point for their whole season.

Speaker 117 They're back on track.

Speaker 28 But right now, as it stands, let me ask you this. Who do you think would win in a playoff game, the Browns or the Jaguars?

Speaker 114 I would say the Browns.

Speaker 28 I would think the Browns could beat the Jaguars.

Speaker 131 I think the Browns could beat the Jaguars.

Speaker 6 I mean, although the Browns' defense is not the same on the road.

Speaker 28 I mean, a lot of people are saying that, like, can Joe Flacco win against a good team like the Jaguars?

Speaker 28 I don't know if he can or not, but if they were to play in the playoffs, I think he might be able to sneak one out.

Speaker 42 I'd agree with you there.

Speaker 90 Okay.

Speaker 72 What, four points? Four points.

Speaker 89 Four points, yeah.

Speaker 120 And Doug Peterson, that was a...

Speaker 26 He went for two.

Speaker 80 I kind of liked it. So

Speaker 42 it was 31-21.

Speaker 85 They scored a touchdown with a minute left, and he went for two to try to make it a two-point game instead of a four-point game or instead of a three-point game.

Speaker 7 Didn't get it.

Speaker 6 I actually liked it because you needed, it was all resting on the on-side kick anyway.

Speaker 96 And if you get the two, you can win with a field goal.

Speaker 28 I don't know if I like it or not.

Speaker 112 I kind of liked it, it was kind of funky.

Speaker 28 I can't remember the last time a coach did that.

Speaker 30 I think the reason why I liked it was because the way they've made onside kicks now, it's impossible.

Speaker 104 So, he kind of was like, this doesn't really fucking matter anyway. Right.

Speaker 28 Well, I liked it personally because I picked the Browns and it was a three-point spread. Yes.
And so that was very, very beneficial for me. Very, very

Speaker 28 detrimental to Hank. Yes.
Who unfortunately is

Speaker 28 not looking great.

Speaker 15 What's the the deal with these peanuts?

Speaker 78 Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready to

Speaker 134 start grinding. Okay.
Grinding some tape.

Speaker 51 Fully. Not over yet.
Not over. It's over.
It's over.

Speaker 134 What do you mean, grind some tape?

Speaker 78 Watching.

Speaker 102 You're going to watch stand-up?

Speaker 28 You're going to steal other people's jokes? You should do that.

Speaker 47 I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 5 No, I like. You're going to see his whole set.

Speaker 51 Word for word. I don't.
I'm not a cover comedian.

Speaker 78 I've obviously seen stand-up, but I wouldn't say it's like a huge, huge

Speaker 78 thing that I watch in my free time. Like, I've been to a couple shows.
I've watched a couple stand-ups, but I'm not super, super familiar with the art.

Speaker 136 Tell us a joke.

Speaker 78 Eagles defense.

Speaker 23 It's good. Hey,

Speaker 80 that's pretty good.

Speaker 28 Get ready to learn funny, buddy.

Speaker 71 That's good.

Speaker 2 That's really good.

Speaker 123 Okay, next game.

Speaker 78 I'm just going to end up roasting you guys.

Speaker 19 Oh, that's nice. Don't play the hits.

Speaker 55 I don't know what else.

Speaker 78 I just can't do that for an hour.

Speaker 39 That's really low-hanging fruit, Hank.

Speaker 28 Just go full troll.

Speaker 26 Really sad.

Speaker 142 Really sad of you.

Speaker 78 It's just an hour. It's a long time.
It's fine. I'm excited.

Speaker 43 It's a long time.

Speaker 51 I'm not going to complain.

Speaker 131 Let's pretend right now. Okay.

Speaker 115 Your stand-up set starts right now, and I'll let you know when it ended. Okay?

Speaker 51 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 141 Bengals, 34.

Speaker 13 Colts, 14.

Speaker 134 Are the Bengals a team of Destiny?

Speaker 28 Jake Browning looked pretty good.

Speaker 143 Dude, we should.

Speaker 1 Zach Taylor needs appreciation because like watching it, watching the Bengals play, I know Jake Browning has looked good and he deserves a lot of credit.

Speaker 85 He actually

Speaker 1 he's 79.3% completion percentage in his first three starts, which is the highest a quarterback's ever had in their first three starts since 1950.

Speaker 71 I don't know what happened in 1950.

Speaker 1 I feel like all stats just stop at 1950.

Speaker 28 Norton Vin Brockland?

Speaker 88 Yeah, that's just, it's Sammy Ball.

Speaker 8 It's like Sid Luckman.

Speaker 71 It just all stopped at 1950.

Speaker 2 But Zach Taylor, like the way he's scheming, he's like, hey, I have a lot of really good players.

Speaker 85 Who cares that I don't have Joe Burrow?

Speaker 8 Like, we've got to make something out of this. Let's just scheme up all of our good players getting the ball in space and let Jake Browning just make easy passes.

Speaker 28 He made some very easy passes today. So

Speaker 28 I agree with you. Zach Taylor's doing a great job.
Chase Brown hit 22 miles an hour on that screen pass where he just took off.

Speaker 28 Like, how can you have a fast guy like that and not really use him until your backup's in? I would have liked to see Chase Brown more frequently this season.

Speaker 28 But Jake Browning, there was a momentary scare that we had with Jake Browning where we thought that he took our advice and he just decided he was going to fake an injury

Speaker 28 and then get paid. He said he went to the locker room.
He was dehydrated. He got an IV and then he just sat there being pissed off because he was cramped up.

Speaker 28 And then he was just like staring at his IV, angry, like waiting to get back. And then he was done.
He came back in. AJ McCarron hit the bricks.
And then

Speaker 28 it was time for him to just take back over.

Speaker 120 And he's getting cramped up.

Speaker 20 You know what?

Speaker 28 I'm going to put him in the the Moxie conversation. Yeah.

Speaker 28 I think he's got good Moxie.

Speaker 26 And I also think the Bengals, like, that win on Monday night, rejuvenized their season, and they're now sitting here and being like, hey, wait, we're still a really good football team.

Speaker 49 You know, let's not be the FSU here.

Speaker 118 Yeah.

Speaker 71 We could still make the playoffs.

Speaker 60 I think they definitely could.

Speaker 8 By the way, shout out Joe Burrow, Nice Guy of the Week award, first ever, pardon my take.

Speaker 120 He gave his sweet to Jake Browning's family.

Speaker 28 That's amazing. Nice guy of the week.
On his birthday, no less.

Speaker 60 Wow.

Speaker 1 Nice guy of the week. Joe is a very nice guy.

Speaker 39 So that

Speaker 10 that was a very cool thing to do.

Speaker 51 As for the Colts,

Speaker 102 I felt like the Colts'

Speaker 27 lucky bounce streak kind of ran out.

Speaker 1 And I thought it was going to keep going when they got that pick six.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 27 But the muff punt and then just, you know, it felt like they were just, you know, running uphill for the entire second half.

Speaker 49 I hope that the Colts, the Colts are in my fun team category.

Speaker 8 Shane Steichen is a great coach, but it did feel like the lucky bounces kind of ran out for them.

Speaker 28 I think they're still in the fun team category. Yeah, sure.

Speaker 49 They're in the fun team category.

Speaker 28 Yeah, did they score? They scored like 14 points in 10 seconds or something like that?

Speaker 120 It was 25 seconds.

Speaker 28 25 seconds. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So the touchdown and then the pick six.

Speaker 28 So Gardner Mitchie looked okay today. Nothing special.
They ran out of gas in the second half. Second half, it was all Bengals all the time.

Speaker 28 But I would still trust the Colts against exactly 50% of the teams in the AFC. Yeah.
I think they're the perfectly average team, but they compete in fun ways.

Speaker 28 They have no business being this good right now.

Speaker 42 Yeah,

Speaker 96 they're exactly

Speaker 120 the exact average team. Like, if you're like, hey,

Speaker 66 who could beat everyone below them and lose to everyone above them?

Speaker 28 The crazy thing is, I think of it more in terms of who could beat the best teams if everything broke their way, and who could lose to the worst teams if everything broke the wrong way.

Speaker 89 Yeah.

Speaker 28 So the Colts beat the Ravens this season. That's true.
And I also wouldn't be surprised if they lost to literally any team.

Speaker 90 Yeah, that's also true. Yep.

Speaker 81 Okay.

Speaker 89 Next up. Oh, no.

Speaker 33 Oh, no, Max.

Speaker 60 That was a fumble.

Speaker 73 Max, I think that was a fumble.

Speaker 8 Are you going to say anything, Max?

Speaker 28 Might have been down.

Speaker 67 Max, are you going to say something?

Speaker 132 I think he was down.

Speaker 50 Okay.

Speaker 91 There's 6.38 left in the game, and the Eagles are down 17.

Speaker 51 It's bad for the over.

Speaker 89 Yeah, no shit, Hank.

Speaker 120 No, he was definitely down.

Speaker 100 He might have been down.

Speaker 15 His whole body was in.

Speaker 123 When you're...

Speaker 122 So, this is my first game of football I've watched, Max.

Speaker 80 You got hairball when you're down

Speaker 1 what what does that mean

Speaker 9 right I get he wasn't fucking down

Speaker 28 talk about the game but wait his foot was down you got to look at two sides of the same play so it looked like he was not down yet but did he have possession was that a catch oh maybe not maybe it wasn't a catch

Speaker 9 you guys aren't funny

Speaker 117 you sure yeah they are thanks Jake thanks Jake very cool approaching eight years you're such a bitch.

Speaker 103 Wait, no, but seriously,

Speaker 97 when you say down, does he have to... What does that mean?

Speaker 143 If you're like,

Speaker 77 if your whole body is in the air three feet above the ground, is that down?

Speaker 9 No, he was not down. It was a fumble.

Speaker 132 Oh.

Speaker 28 Was there a clear recovery?

Speaker 11 Yes, there was a clear recovery.

Speaker 90 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 28 Wait, which team?

Speaker 28 Oh, the Cowboys.

Speaker 47 The Cowboys?

Speaker 26 This is bad analogy. And which team are you rooting for?

Speaker 78 First hiccup, only one.

Speaker 63 Any more hiccups?

Speaker 132 No.

Speaker 65 Okay.

Speaker 140 You want us to continue?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I would love for you to continue.

Speaker 132 Okay.

Speaker 33 Well, they're in commercial.

Speaker 119 Yeah, they're commercial.

Speaker 23 No, it's not over.

Speaker 14 It's not over. The Eagles don't give up.

Speaker 138 Rocky.

Speaker 47 They lost on Rocky Day.

Speaker 11 Today's Rocky Day.

Speaker 100 Do you think this game would have gone different if Dom was there?

Speaker 132 I know they won on Rocky Day. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 Dom not being on the sidelines, obviously.

Speaker 11 Dom doesn't finish the game on the sidelines.

Speaker 103 But wait, was Dom allowed to coach during the week?

Speaker 10 Yeah, he was. Okay.

Speaker 47 So that's at least

Speaker 9 he even was allowed to travel with the team. Oh.
He just couldn't be on the sideline.

Speaker 90 Damn. Damn.

Speaker 28 Does every team have their binky? Does every team have a Dom on their sideline?

Speaker 9 I don't know.

Speaker 19 What are we talking about? No, I'm genuinely curious.

Speaker 51 I don't talk about Dom.

Speaker 89 The Eagles.

Speaker 98 Did you really forget what we were talking about?

Speaker 98 No.

Speaker 28 Okay. At least you guys are going to be in first place after this game, right?

Speaker 28 Oh, wait, I just did the playoff machine.

Speaker 65 Oh, no.

Speaker 72 Don't tell me, PFT.

Speaker 104 Don't give me bad news. Not right now.

Speaker 28 First seed is the Niners. It says second seed is the Cowboys.

Speaker 11 What?

Speaker 28 And the fifth seed is the Eagles.

Speaker 142 Fifth?

Speaker 36 Fifth. What?

Speaker 9 That's a fake fifth seed. That's a fake fifth seed.
We haven't played the Giants yet.

Speaker 28 That's what it says. It's fifth seed.

Speaker 125 Wait, but the way the Eagles are playing right now is the Giants a guaranteed win.

Speaker 83 Would you shut up and just continue with the games that we're showing?

Speaker 97 How can he shut up and continue?

Speaker 49 Are you playing at the Giants next week?

Speaker 9 No, we play at Seattle next week, which we very well could play.

Speaker 71 But then do you play at the Giants?

Speaker 9 We have to play them both.

Speaker 104 Oh, you haven't lost a game in Meadowlands, have you?

Speaker 9 I don't know.

Speaker 9 You're so annoying.

Speaker 78 Can you shut up and also continue talking, please?

Speaker 9 I just want you to continue doing the part of the show that we're supposed to be doing.

Speaker 133 Okay.

Speaker 28 Who decides that?

Speaker 83 You.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 So wouldn't what they're talking about be what it's supposed to be talking about?

Speaker 28 No, no, no, this is what we're talking about right now.

Speaker 130 I guess technically the producer creates the rundown.

Speaker 56 Yeah, Max creates a rundown every time.

Speaker 28 We do a fully produced rundown on every single show.

Speaker 58 It's always giving us topics.

Speaker 28 They're all on the side. Fast two minutes.

Speaker 63 Fast two minutes, the A block.

Speaker 130 Now we're in the B block.

Speaker 60 Yeah, what are we going to talk about today, fellas?

Speaker 97 I got some ideas.

Speaker 6 LeBron, Zion is fat.

Speaker 28 Are the Cowboys the best team in the NFC?

Speaker 25 Stephen A.

Speaker 76 Smith tweet was the best.

Speaker 109 He's like, check out my new podcast.

Speaker 73 Show, hey, Zion is fat.

Speaker 87 All right.

Speaker 14 Bucks, 29, Falcons, 25.

Speaker 95 Someone has to win the NFC South.

Speaker 1 Three-way tie now. The Bucs technically own,

Speaker 8 they control their own destiny. So

Speaker 68 Baker with the game-winning drive.

Speaker 99 I don't know.

Speaker 122 I'm so sick of watching NFC South football.

Speaker 28 I think that they should only play each other. So you have to opt into NFC South games.
Yeah. If you really care about the decision,

Speaker 61 then you can watch it.

Speaker 28 It should be the Panthers playing against the Bucks, Saints playing against the Falcons, and then they just rotate amongst themselves.

Speaker 99 And they should put it on the Pac-12 network.

Speaker 28 Yeah, make it a real effort for people. I don't want to accidentally stumble across an NFC South game.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 It's just a chore every single time.

Speaker 74 Oh, that was a big pass for the Cowboys.

Speaker 17 Oh, my God. He caught it.

Speaker 28 Well, Max is probably happy, right? He's a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 28 Oh, wait,

Speaker 28 his favorite team is the Eagles.

Speaker 47 It's the Eagles.

Speaker 90 I forgot.

Speaker 28 Shit. A couple highlights from this game with the Bucs and the Falcons.
Goldberg destroyed a Bucs fan. Yes.
Just planted him into the earth. Probably got it.
Broke a few ribs. Goldberg should play.

Speaker 28 They should let Goldberg play.

Speaker 99 Yeah, he can play football. Play to Georgia.

Speaker 28 Yeah, he was a good player. Also, fun fact from this game: the Bucs had nine players on the field for Bijan Robinson's touchdown.
Oof. So typically, you know,

Speaker 28 Western Notre Dame.

Speaker 60 There was also a Bucs touchdown.

Speaker 3 I think it was White who scored, where it looked like the Falcons Falcons were like

Speaker 129 maybe had a bet who could not tackle him.

Speaker 144 Yeah.

Speaker 51 They all just kind of flailed around and he scored a touchdown.

Speaker 99 But yeah, it was good for Baker. I'm happy for Baker.

Speaker 100 I don't want to see an NFC South team.

Speaker 6 I think we've said the Falcons just because of their names, but I am so sick of watching Desmond Ritter play football.

Speaker 28 Yeah, if it's Heineke, then I definitely want to see it to the playoffs.

Speaker 14 Desmond Ritter, I know he played well in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 120 Like both teams are like, oh shit, we got to try to win this game.

Speaker 6 But the interception,

Speaker 49 the fumble in the end zone,

Speaker 58 the missed pass to Bijan, where it was so, it was a walk-in touchdown and he missed him.

Speaker 56 I'm just kind of done with Desmond Ritter.

Speaker 125 I think I'm with watching him play football.

Speaker 28 I think pretty much everybody else out there is done with Desmond Ritter.

Speaker 28 I think Falcons fans understand.

Speaker 81 It's enough.

Speaker 28 Desmond Ritter is not the guy.

Speaker 101 We've had enough.

Speaker 85 We don't want any more Desmond Ritter.

Speaker 10 We're please asking out of all future Desmond Ritter.

Speaker 28 Now, that said, said, if Ku had made two of his field goals that he missed,

Speaker 28 different game. True.

Speaker 1 But yeah, someone's got to win the NFC South. Three-way tie.

Speaker 89 All teams, what, six and seven?

Speaker 53 Yep.

Speaker 70 Six and seven.

Speaker 39 And the Bucs control their own destiny, which is crazy.

Speaker 39 They are sitting right now in the fourth seed.

Speaker 101 We're just going to do this again, where the Bucs are going to, although.

Speaker 120 The Bucs, if they get the fourth seed, who would they play?

Speaker 28 They'd play against the Eagles.

Speaker 11 Oh, right now.

Speaker 82 Oh, that's actually a pretty good game.

Speaker 90 That's a pretty good game.

Speaker 61 Easy game.

Speaker 28 So you'd almost rather lose this game if you're the Eagles.

Speaker 19 Yeah, you go play the Bucs, Max.

Speaker 51 Round one.

Speaker 11 No,

Speaker 9 that is not how this works. They are more likely to get

Speaker 9 the two seed than they are the fifth seed.

Speaker 130 If the season ended today.

Speaker 9 But it doesn't end today. But last week it ended.

Speaker 30 Last week it was all about how you had the one seed.

Speaker 8 Yes, it was.

Speaker 9 And we did have the one seed. Now we don't.

Speaker 132 So

Speaker 141 it's great. So

Speaker 9 you guys are fucking geniuses.

Speaker 80 It's the playbook tonight.

Speaker 9 The playbook is that this defense fucking sucks and they can't hold on to the football.

Speaker 9 And Dallas gets bailed out on every fucking drive with either a penalty or picking up a flag, which I've never seen someone call a hold, throw the flag for the hold, and then say, you know what?

Speaker 83 Never mind.

Speaker 9 But they kicked our asses, so it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 90 Damn.

Speaker 29 Quick poll, because I'm just curious.

Speaker 74 PFT, Commanders were bye-week this week?

Speaker 11 Yep.

Speaker 28 It was great. Actually, we won the bye-week because a lot of teams lost that were close to us, so we hang on to our spot in the draft.

Speaker 83 Yeah, everyone won but me.

Speaker 51 Jake,

Speaker 32 I'm doing a poll.

Speaker 25 Max, wait,

Speaker 83 cut to the chase.

Speaker 28 Max, this Eagles discussion is not about you. I don't know how big your head needs to be.
We're not just talking about the Eagles so much to get under your skin personally. We're a football podcast.

Speaker 14 Yeah, and Jake, your team plays tomorrow, so there's four teams.

Speaker 82 They have yet to lose.

Speaker 95 Four teams that have played today.

Speaker 2 The Jets must lost.

Speaker 30 Or this week. The Jets.

Speaker 60 The Jets lost.

Speaker 51 And the Patriots must have lost.

Speaker 47 And so are the Bears.

Speaker 14 Those teams stink.

Speaker 78 All underdogs.

Speaker 1 Wait, raise your hand if your team won this week.

Speaker 28 Yep. I'm going to count that as a dub.

Speaker 111 Okay. Big meaty dub.

Speaker 16 Max, where's your?

Speaker 9 Jake's team didn't win yet. Max, where's your.

Speaker 52 Your team didn't win yet.

Speaker 9 Your team didn't win either.

Speaker 28 Did you not listen to the sports podcast that we're doing? We won because all the teams around us in the draft happened to win.

Speaker 130 We won because the Chiefs lost.

Speaker 20 Max, your hand wasn't raised.

Speaker 142 Is there an issue?

Speaker 133 That was a great Max noise.

Speaker 143 Okay, let's take a break and we'll talk about some more games.

Speaker 41 Max needs a break.

Speaker 122 Let's take a break.

Speaker 28 Yeah, we're going to get back to the games in a second.

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Speaker 11 Did the Eagles quit?

Speaker 103 They didn't use any of their timeouts.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I think you know, not so much quit as they wave the white flag.

Speaker 112 That's not quitting. It's different.

Speaker 90 I wouldn't quit.

Speaker 42 I would never quit.

Speaker 130 Thank God, I have a reminder.

Speaker 28 You have to drag me off the field.

Speaker 130 You said December 11th.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 69 Eagles to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 129 No.

Speaker 101 No.

Speaker 130 On the August

Speaker 80 9th episode.

Speaker 127 I was right about

Speaker 8 getting the best price

Speaker 92 at this exact moment. Credit to me for calling that because of the schedule.

Speaker 8 But no.

Speaker 126 They're not winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 28 The defense just doesn't look right. They're not winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 89 All right.

Speaker 104 Let's talk about a team that might win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 70 Bears, 28 Glines, 13.

Speaker 20 The Bears are back.

Speaker 28 I'd say you guys could mathematically make the playoffs.

Speaker 20 So

Speaker 92 I'm not going to get ahead of myself, but I'm totally going to get ahead of myself.

Speaker 2 The Browns are going to be a very tough game, but if the Bears can somehow win next week,

Speaker 111 they played the Cardinals and the Falcons at home, and then week 18 would be at Lambeau

Speaker 107 with some implications.

Speaker 122 And if you just took out September, if you just pretended September didn't exist, the Bears are actually a good football team.

Speaker 97 Matt Eberflues and

Speaker 49 Justin Fields, they have now won back-to-back games for the first time.

Speaker 47 That's cool.

Speaker 28 Wait, today was the first time? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, today was the first time.

Speaker 28 And you're thinking about keeping both of them.

Speaker 113 I don't think they're...

Speaker 20 So we're in a problem because

Speaker 29 I think they're going to take Kale Williams, which I'm all for.

Speaker 141 Matty Berflus has done an incredible job with his defense.

Speaker 26 I don't know what to say.

Speaker 122 It's kind of hard to...

Speaker 16 The defense has been incredible.

Speaker 45 It has.

Speaker 86 Montez Sweat, I remember everyone laughing at that.

Speaker 7 He was an absolute monster today.

Speaker 67 Brisker had 17 tackles.

Speaker 24 The guys that, you know, the linebackers that Paul's brought in have been good.

Speaker 29 The defense is lights out, and he is the defensive coordinator because our defensive coordinator somehow mysteriously left

Speaker 117 under very, very weird circumstances.

Speaker 28 HR was involved.

Speaker 47 So I guess we'll have to play the string out and see.

Speaker 119 But people have been like, hey, don't you want to lose for tanking?

Speaker 113 No, no, we have the Panthers pick. So I don't, I want the Bears.
This is when you have to start changing the culture.

Speaker 1 This is when you have to start winning and being like, hey, we could start winning some games.

Speaker 88 You build off this.

Speaker 1 You build it for the next season.

Speaker 16 Like, this is when you do it.

Speaker 28 Can I give you some advice as an unbiased outsider? Yeah.

Speaker 28 Take Caleb Williams.

Speaker 94 No, I think they will.

Speaker 96 I'm all for it. And get a brand new coach.
I'm all for it.

Speaker 28 Justin Fields is great against the Lions. He really is.
Like, he's always running around. But

Speaker 28 do not fall into this rules. No, I'm not.
If you win a few games.

Speaker 62 Justin Fields is a good one. No, no, no.

Speaker 28 I want you to hear me when I say this. No, I know.

Speaker 63 I want Caleb Williams.

Speaker 28 If they win out this season. Yeah.

Speaker 28 I think they're going to keep Matt Eberflues. And they're in the hunt.

Speaker 129 I think they're going to keep Matt Eberflues.

Speaker 28 You should want Matt Eberflues on the other side of the sun.

Speaker 110 I want him to be the defensive coordinator and just take a demotion.

Speaker 89 I don't know if that would be the best thing ever.

Speaker 28 It would be great, but I don't know if it's possible for that to be.

Speaker 45 That's why we need Harbaugh.

Speaker 28 I'm just telling you.

Speaker 120 Harbaugh can just be like, Matt Eberflues, you're the DC now.

Speaker 28 I'm just telling you

Speaker 28 as a friend, I need you to know that you do not want those guys back next year.

Speaker 49 I don't think I want Justin Fields back, but I do.

Speaker 101 Matt Eberflu. You can't deny how good the defense is.

Speaker 47 Defense is great. So

Speaker 101 I, yes, gun in my head, I do not want him back, but I also have to see what happens in the next.

Speaker 14 If they win out, what the fuck?

Speaker 5 They're a good team.

Speaker 28 Yeah, so it's important for the other guys that are in that locker room to end the season knowing that they can win football games. Yeah.
That's going to be big going in next year.

Speaker 28 But don't start thinking crazy on me and think that maybe Matt Debrifluce has figured out how to become a great coach.

Speaker 109 His defense is very, very good.

Speaker 45 Very good.

Speaker 71 Very good defense.

Speaker 81 As for the Lions.

Speaker 26 Now, Lions fans are going to be mad at me because I actually said on Friday, I think the Bears can win this game.

Speaker 18 There were people who were like, you're an idiot.

Speaker 58 You're so stupid. The Bears.

Speaker 86 I think what's happened is because the Bears were so bad in September, and people, rightfully so,

Speaker 85 threw them in the trash and were like, This team sucks.

Speaker 1 They haven't paid attention. Obviously, I'm watching every game.
This team does not suck.

Speaker 22 They're not good, but they're definitely not bad.

Speaker 108 If you did a list of power rankings of all the teams in the league, they're in the 20s somewhere, like, you know, early 20s.

Speaker 85 They're not in the 28, 29, 30 range, which they were in September.

Speaker 10 The Lions, though, lions fans are gonna be upset because uh the intentional grounding call was bullshit that then led to uh aiden hutchins jumping offside and justin fields throwing a dime to dj moore for a touchdown my counter argument to that so i'm admitting that it was a bullshit call My counter argument to that would be, did that call stop the Lions from getting a first down until nine minutes left in the fourth quarter?

Speaker 11 Probably not.

Speaker 2 So that really, like the Bears were the better team on Sunday. That call was very big, and it sucked because it was probably the wrong call.

Speaker 7 But I'm not going to apologize because the Bears were the better team, and their defense played better, and the Lions' defense still is a big question mark of what the hell is happening.

Speaker 28 Yeah, so the Lions,

Speaker 28 it was their defense, yes, their defense was very bad today, but also their offense wasn't that good. They scored 13 points in the second quarter.

Speaker 28 They didn't score any points outside of that second quarter. It was pretty inconsistent.

Speaker 28 Jared Goff is a friend, great quarterback,

Speaker 28 even better guy off the field for the Bears.

Speaker 50 Facts.

Speaker 28 He struggles with the cold. Yeah.
They need to have a home playoff game, and I think they will.

Speaker 28 They should still win that division because I don't think anybody else really is capable of doing that right now. They're the best team.

Speaker 128 The Packers are definitely capable of doing that.

Speaker 28 They're the best team in that division by a wide enough margin for it to be relatively certain that they're going to win it.

Speaker 28 But you better win that division because you don't want to go anywhere and play outside.

Speaker 20 That's not as...

Speaker 120 Secure as you think it is.

Speaker 24 Because they have to play the Vikings twice, and the Vikings are two games behind them right now.

Speaker 113 I think that the Packers win on Monday.

Speaker 109 They're two games behind them.

Speaker 28 I think the Lions will take care of business. I'm not worried about the Vikings anymore

Speaker 28 if I'm the Lions. Okay.

Speaker 39 If you're a Lions fan, you're not saying, oh, the NFC North is all wrapped up.

Speaker 89 I can guarantee you that.

Speaker 28 It's not wrapped up, but

Speaker 28 I wouldn't panic in terms of winning that division. They have not looked good.

Speaker 27 They have not looked good in the last three weeks.

Speaker 122 That's a fact.

Speaker 28 Actually, four weeks, because the Bears completely choked away the game that they played at Ford Field you know a month ago and dan campbell said afterwards i need to put a little more uh i need to push a little more i need to more be more irritable that's going to be fun for the lions yeah he's going to have to figure out a great speech to give this week um i got one here's one we're going to throw the ball more frequently to jamison williams yeah and sam la port again throw the ball to jameson he's fast as fuck

Speaker 100 not when the not when the bears secondary is flying around i listen i know people they love when i'm very much down i'm um It's exciting.

Speaker 26 I'm excited about the Bears' future because their defense is something to build on, and they have offensive weapons, and they have the number one pick.

Speaker 107 It's exciting.

Speaker 70 If you want someone to be down and out

Speaker 110 and doom and gloom, can I offer you a Max?

Speaker 28 Why is Max down?

Speaker 1 Max, that game just went final.

Speaker 71 Your mic's not on.

Speaker 9 Eagles suck.

Speaker 80 Eagles suck.

Speaker 102 This is two games in a row playing the two other best teams in the NFC, and you've looked looked very bad.

Speaker 142 Yes.

Speaker 21 The season's over?

Speaker 9 No.

Speaker 28 Okay. You have a magic wand.
How do you fix the Eagles?

Speaker 9 Nothing.

Speaker 51 The defense is. Nothing.

Speaker 9 I mean,

Speaker 9 the offense, there was just bad turnovers, but

Speaker 9 they were moving the ball fine.

Speaker 9 They just had bad turnovers.

Speaker 9 The defense is a big problem.

Speaker 50 Big,

Speaker 10 big,

Speaker 10 big problem.

Speaker 8 That was a lot of bigs.

Speaker 28 Sean Desai fucking blows.

Speaker 28 Damn. That's tough.
Is Dom back next week?

Speaker 9 I don't know. Hopefully.

Speaker 134 Did they lose?

Speaker 90 The defense sucks.

Speaker 45 No, but Dom got kicked out of that.

Speaker 100 Hank, you bet the Cowboys today.

Speaker 8 What do you think about your Cowboys?

Speaker 45 Hank's a good job.

Speaker 6 We need a Cowboys fan on this podcast.

Speaker 39 We've said that.

Speaker 97 Hank has stepped up.

Speaker 43 He's the next man-up guy.

Speaker 78 They're dominant at home. They've got to keep up these wins, get some home playoff games.

Speaker 90 Soupy.

Speaker 11 Soupy.

Speaker 28 You think it's soupy this year?

Speaker 134 I think this is the year.

Speaker 36 Ooh, okay.

Speaker 39 Well, Max, the gauntlet is over.

Speaker 9 That's good. I mean, you still have to go to Seattle next week.

Speaker 11 It's not a gauntlet.

Speaker 18 Seattle needs a win bad.

Speaker 9 I'm also sick of playing teams that just get extra rest.

Speaker 89 Yeah.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Seattle kind of gets extra rest because they played earlier.

Speaker 38 Dallas had at least four hours.

Speaker 28 Last week, Dallas had a mini-buy. So he played Thursday.

Speaker 74 It's scheduling.

Speaker 110 Scheduling is fucked the Eagles.

Speaker 78 That's what's happening. Calendar.
20.

Speaker 25 Yeah, that's what's happening.

Speaker 78 Two days is worth 20 points.

Speaker 90 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 28 That's about right.

Speaker 42 That's the math.

Speaker 9 I mean,

Speaker 9 the defense sucks.

Speaker 18 Yeah, Dak looks really good.

Speaker 111 I think Dak MVP.

Speaker 28 He did look great today.

Speaker 111 Dak MVP.

Speaker 24 We were talking about it a couple weeks ago, but Dak is,

Speaker 2 I would imagine the odds would reflect that, but Dak MVP feels like it's got some momentum now.

Speaker 28 I'd say if the conversation is down to Dak and Brock, they're going to give it to Dak.

Speaker 138 Yes. Well, it really, I just keep going back.

Speaker 49 It's probably going to be the number one seed.

Speaker 1 So two is still in it.

Speaker 41 Like, Lamar is still in it.

Speaker 58 It's just, that's how this award goes, unfortunately.

Speaker 8 So whoever gets the one seed gets the MVP.

Speaker 28 Although, if it's the Dolphins, I think it's Tyreek. It should be.

Speaker 87 It should be.

Speaker 123 Okay, next game.

Speaker 26 Sorry the Lions fans had to listen to me to be happy.

Speaker 72 I'm happy once, never.

Speaker 85 Never happy.

Speaker 28 No, I mean, you have every right to be happy.

Speaker 81 I'm very, very happy.

Speaker 125 The Bears put a pep in my step today, and it felt good.

Speaker 8 And it felt good also because people still think they suck.

Speaker 110 So like when you can sneak them and be like, no, they don't actually suck.

Speaker 28 Were they 5-4 in their last nine?

Speaker 60 Five and four in their last nine.

Speaker 67 And their losses are, you know, Tyson Bagent, that Saints lost.

Speaker 73 They actually kind of dominated the Saints.

Speaker 53 Obviously, the Lions game, they didn't know how to close out the first one.

Speaker 128 If you look at the last two months of the Bears, like they're outside of the Chargers game, they've been in every game.

Speaker 28 Well, so the Vikings game, we all remember that Vikings. By no means were the Bears like a dominant team during that game.

Speaker 47 But their defense was awesome.

Speaker 28 Their defense was great.

Speaker 52 Their defense can win them games.

Speaker 51 All right.

Speaker 14 Saints 28, Panthers 6.

Speaker 16 The Saints, man.

Speaker 42 It's tough when the Panthers are playing and the Panthers are a chore to watch.

Speaker 109 And then the Saints are like equally as a chore to watch.

Speaker 74 Because the Saints offense, Derek Carr at one point in this game was 13 for 20 for 37 yards and one interception.

Speaker 8 And did you see his offensive lineman, Eric McCoy, just start screaming at him?

Speaker 28 Saw that, yeah.

Speaker 42 Kind of woke him up a little bit. They got into that.

Speaker 28 I took something else away from that video, too. It wasn't just him screaming at him.
We need to start monitoring Derek Carr every time he's sacked. I don't think these guys are helping him up.

Speaker 51 Yeah.

Speaker 28 I don't think his offensive line is going back there and helping the guy up. Yeah.

Speaker 28 I think he's up to three or four broken ribs right now, trying to match Drew Brees' all-time record.

Speaker 28 I think he still has like 10 more to go for that one, but still, that's an unbreakable record, I think. Yes.
Drew Brees playing with like every single rib shattered into his lungs.

Speaker 74 He was Marilyn Manson for that one season.

Speaker 72 He's sucking his own dick.

Speaker 28 Yeah, Derek Carr, could he? Yeah, probably. He's got his brother do that.
He's got no look.

Speaker 42 Yeah.

Speaker 77 Oh, no, his brother's busy saying that Marcus Mariota should start for the Eagles.

Speaker 28 Yeah, my favorite thing. Which

Speaker 71 maybe? My favorite thing about David Carr is that

Speaker 28 he blocks people who make fun of his brother online.

Speaker 107 He's ride or die.

Speaker 10 Ride or die.

Speaker 16 But yeah, this game was.

Speaker 58 The Panthers are just so, so, so bad.

Speaker 131 And Chris Tabor, their interim head coach, usually you get a bounce with your interim head coach.

Speaker 1 They got negative bounce so much so that he's a special teams guy and they got a punt block today.

Speaker 49 Like, that's the one thing.

Speaker 109 If you're the interim head coach and you're a special teams coach, you need to make sure your special teams is like elite and never fucks up because that's the one thing that you should be able to handle.

Speaker 28 You also might just be, it might be the lack of him being on special teams.

Speaker 40 Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 91 I think that's

Speaker 51 the Panthers.

Speaker 28 The Panthers should definitely do the thing where they have a different interim coach every single week. Try to get that bump.

Speaker 28 Keep going with it until you find a guy that gives you a bump, and then rotate again. That's what you should do.
The Panthers are so tough to watch, so hard to watch.

Speaker 28 I put a bet in today on every team to score a touchdown. And in the early slate, I just needed the Panthers.
And it is, it's impossible. I feel so bad for Panthers fans out there.

Speaker 28 The fact that you have to go through this week in, week out. Bryce Young, the guy still hasn't figured out that he can't outrun a defensive lineman at full speed from a standstill.
Correct.

Speaker 28 He tries to do it all the time. And when he realizes he can't, then he starts drifting backwards and makes a sure sack an even worse sure sack.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 His first half, he was three for 15 for 28 yards.

Speaker 72 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 45 It's bad. Really bad.

Speaker 60 The highlight.

Speaker 96 Aren't you happy, though?

Speaker 39 Because you got the plug pulled on you because the Vikings Raiders game, which we're going to talk to, was...

Speaker 28 That would have been a disaster. That would have been a disaster.
It would have been bad.

Speaker 28 The highlight of the game was Miles Sanders almost scoring a touchdown. Yeah.
And he got tackled at the two. And then you guys backed up 15 yards.

Speaker 18 And then, yeah, they just went. Yeah.

Speaker 47 Sack, sack.

Speaker 28 Is it not time to start asking Andy Dalton?

Speaker 116 Yeah, Andy Dalton, the one game he played, he looked really good.

Speaker 47 Oh, he looks great. Or it might have been two games.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Have you noticed this Andy 2.0 that we're looking at right now?

Speaker 81 I don't know.

Speaker 126 Andy Dalton probably is like, I'm cool with just catching a check here.

Speaker 28 He probably doesn't want to get in. I'm thinking that maybe

Speaker 28 the Panthers just want the Bears to get a worse draft pick.

Speaker 28 What do you mean? I don't know. Maybe, maybe they're just.

Speaker 73 No, that makes no sense.

Speaker 28 I guess it probably doesn't. But why aren't they putting Andy Dalton in the season?

Speaker 8 Because they drafted Bryce Young.

Speaker 106 You can't bench the guy you drafted one overall his first season.

Speaker 28 I would consider sitting down.

Speaker 20 Why?

Speaker 8 You're not trying to win.

Speaker 28 I would consider sitting him down because he's...

Speaker 49 So you are trying to win, but you're not able to win.

Speaker 39 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 100 Like, nothing matters.

Speaker 53 Nothing matters.

Speaker 28 Because everything that he's being taught this season is from a guy that's not going to be there in like three months.

Speaker 111 Yeah, but then you just gotta

Speaker 120 get some game tape out there.

Speaker 110 See if he can overcome adversity.

Speaker 117 You can't bench

Speaker 29 your first pick overall.

Speaker 28 It's for his own good.

Speaker 8 For no reason, really.

Speaker 110 There's nothing to bench him for, except for that he sucks.

Speaker 28 I think it's just like the people that are coaching the team right now are going to have... He's not going to take any developmental steps with this group of interim coaches.

Speaker 63 More games.

Speaker 49 Just find out

Speaker 19 how bad you are.

Speaker 28 Maybe I'm asking specifically for people that have

Speaker 28 the Panthers on television.

Speaker 66 You don't want the Bears to have the first pick. I see what you're doing.

Speaker 28 No, No, I do.

Speaker 115 You want Andy Dalton to play and win a couple games.

Speaker 28 I want Andy Dalton to play just so that

Speaker 28 I can watch the Panthers play.

Speaker 100 Can I tell you what would be worse than me having the first pick?

Speaker 10 That guy right there.

Speaker 89 No, it's not

Speaker 20 you.

Speaker 23 I'm not having the first pick.

Speaker 63 I'm not that picky.

Speaker 14 That guy. But there's no reason to play Andy Dalton.
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 28 The reason to play Andy Dalton is that he's better.

Speaker 95 But there's no reason to, like, he's not your future.

Speaker 59 He's not.

Speaker 116 Like, you drafted him one overall.

Speaker 49 You might be.

Speaker 6 You have to play him at least.

Speaker 28 You might be doing more damage to him by keeping in

Speaker 16 these games.

Speaker 14 Didn't Mark Schlerst teach us that?

Speaker 119 The whole idea of

Speaker 19 having a guy sit. It's like, now you got to find out right away.

Speaker 96 I'd rather find out right now.

Speaker 28 I'm just saying he's not, I don't think he's going to get any better with the team that's currently around him right now.

Speaker 95 Well, if he gets worse, then he's not the guy.

Speaker 78 Yeah, but what if he wins a couple games and the fans start believing in him and they're like, we don't even want a quarterback if we get the first pick.

Speaker 134 Yeah.

Speaker 106 Yeah, we have Bryce Young.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 28 There's no reason to. They're not going to get the first pick, though, Hank, because that goes.

Speaker 131 No, they're saying that they wouldn't.

Speaker 51 No, Hank's it's okay.

Speaker 28 Pathetically, if they were to win enough games and still have the first overall pick, they wouldn't take a quarterback. But no, that pick's going to Big Cat.
True. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I have that pick.

Speaker 42 I hold that pick. You don't want a quarterback.

Speaker 131 I tuck that pick in every.

Speaker 69 No, I do want a quarterback.

Speaker 129 I want Caleb Williams.

Speaker 125 We went through this.

Speaker 128 We talked about it a lot.

Speaker 125 I tuck that pick in every night.

Speaker 81 I kiss it right on the forehead.

Speaker 134 I do not want Hank to get the first overall pick.

Speaker 120 I love you, pick.

Speaker 128 I love you, first pick.

Speaker 49 If I could have it my way, I would

Speaker 128 suspend all NFL operations for a few years and just hold on to that first pick for as long as I could.

Speaker 90 Just, hmm.

Speaker 56 What are you looking at like that for, Max?

Speaker 11 You're going to cry?

Speaker 9 I'm just watching you.

Speaker 87 Do the show. Okay.

Speaker 87 All right.

Speaker 8 Yeah, this game was a disaster, though.

Speaker 128 NFC South is a disaster.

Speaker 117 It's a chore to watch.

Speaker 104 Pac-12 Network. Yep.

Speaker 115 Save the Pac-12.

Speaker 75 Put the NFC South there.

Speaker 28 Jimmy Graham's back.

Speaker 53 Jimmy Graham is back.

Speaker 28 Huge.

Speaker 28 He almost dunked the ball over the upright.

Speaker 59 At what point is Derek Carr going to sit down?

Speaker 14 He's getting hurt every single week.

Speaker 14 He has so many injuries, and he's just so, like, I'm not going to let.

Speaker 1 I think he knows that Jameis is better than him.

Speaker 28 He's selfish. Yeah.
He is. It's messed up that they put Jameis in at the end of games for kneel-downs, just tanking his stats.

Speaker 106 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 28 I'm going to need Jameis 101 to make sure on the next Jameis graphic, you include some asterisks on why Jameis' all-time stats are worse because of these kneel-downs. Yeah.

Speaker 51 Yes.

Speaker 49 All right. Next game.

Speaker 67 Jets 30, Texans 6.

Speaker 89 This was a wild game.

Speaker 52 What was that memes?

Speaker 141 I said, fuck yeah. Fuck yeah.

Speaker 66 This is a wild game because it was 0-0 to half and it was all punts in the first half.

Speaker 52 And then Zach Wilson, Spark.

Speaker 38 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 49 I might be back into believing in Zach Wilson.

Speaker 138 He looked good.

Speaker 60 Zach Wilson looked great.

Speaker 138 He looked good, memes.

Speaker 28 He looked really, really good. And it wasn't just the fact that he wasn't Tim Boyle.
It's not just the fact that he wasn't Trevor Simeon. He played good in the second half.

Speaker 124 What did it in the rain?

Speaker 6 What's up with that, memes?

Speaker 138 Is he good?

Speaker 36 He's not good.

Speaker 124 I think he's just the perfect backup quarterback where a guy goes down, he goes in, gives you a spark, and that's it.

Speaker 105 Big spark. Can't play a full season.

Speaker 1 I think Zach Wilson is the perfect.

Speaker 115 Well, no, it doesn't work with this analogy because I was going to say Mitch, but that has not worked out.

Speaker 27 But you can't blame a guy who gets picked number two overall.

Speaker 29 If he got picked in the fourth round, you'd be like, Zach Wilson, he's making strides.

Speaker 89 He's coming along.

Speaker 19 He gets paid nothing.

Speaker 28 If he was a fourth rounder, you'd be optimistic about Wilson's future.

Speaker 15 You'd be like, we found a diamond in the rough.

Speaker 51 Yeah, you can't really do that with this.

Speaker 139 No, yeah, I know.

Speaker 91 It's impossible to do.

Speaker 100 But Zach Wilson played legitimately good football today.

Speaker 28 He played really good. In fact, the Jets played so well overall.
I think if you're a Jets fan, you have to be hoping that Aaron Rodgers can come back, right, Mames?

Speaker 132 Hmm.

Speaker 28 I don't think.

Speaker 110 I don't think it's possible. Didn't he officially say he's not?

Speaker 133 Did he?

Speaker 140 I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 142 I saw one crazy quote that was like, oh, it doesn't matter if I re-injure it.

Speaker 38 Oh, that's not true at all.

Speaker 28 In the cosmic sense of things. Yeah.

Speaker 90 Yeah. The world is going to blow up one day.

Speaker 28 Just a flick of dust.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 85 Was it pale blue light?

Speaker 90 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 28 That's all we ought. Really, the sun is going to engulf the earth

Speaker 28 50 billion years, so what does it matter if he plays if he tears another Achilles? It's actually selfish and very egotistical to think that your Achilles matters. Yeah.

Speaker 126 For the Texans, it feels like the fun for the Texans might have hit a big speed bump today because they looked bad.

Speaker 97 Tank Dell is out.

Speaker 8 Nico Collins got hurt.

Speaker 91 CJ Stroud got a concussion and their offense looked atrocious.

Speaker 53 54 net passing yards.

Speaker 111 And now

Speaker 49 the Texans, like they have, they're right now outside of the playoff picture.

Speaker 110 And if C.J.

Speaker 69 Stroud's out for a little bit.

Speaker 2 It feels like this might be, hey, remember the Texans?

Speaker 67 That was a fun story for a while.

Speaker 100 Next year will be good.

Speaker 28 Yeah, so he's in the protocol right now, so he's probably not playing next week either.

Speaker 28 It was a fun season, though. It was a building season.
And you have a lot to look forward to next year. Correct.

Speaker 76 We're going to get so many.

Speaker 7 This season has been so bad for quarterback injuries.

Speaker 103 Like, next week, we're going to get Davis Mills.

Speaker 96 Just add another

Speaker 6 name to the pile.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I think.

Speaker 116 Like, we're talking about Zach Wilson being a spark for Tim Boyle and Trevor Simeon.

Speaker 94 And we haven't even gotten to the game where Nick Mullins was a spark for Josh Dobbs.

Speaker 14 And who was playing Aiden O'Connell was a spark for Jimmy G.

Speaker 28 Trevor Simeon? It's so bad. Trevor Simeon was a spark last week for Tim Boyle.
Yes.

Speaker 123 And

Speaker 28 Tim Boyle was a spark for Zach Wilson.

Speaker 73 And Zach Wilson is now the spark.

Speaker 19 The circle of life.

Speaker 100 He has now become the spark.

Speaker 45 So

Speaker 28 I want to make a prediction going into this offseason. Texans are going to be everybody.
They're going to say like the sleeper team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Regis Philbin team is what I always call them.

Speaker 40 It's going to be the Philbin.

Speaker 28 The team that...

Speaker 28 People think that you're not smart enough to pick for next season.

Speaker 49 Yeah, Regis Philbin, R.I.P.

Speaker 69 tremendous guy, career, never met him, but I'm sure tremendous guy.

Speaker 76 He would always, I feel like it was always late August, and he would do his Regis and Kathy Lee or whatever it was called, and he would do his like picks, and he would pick the team that everyone had already done all the exhaustive buzz about all summer long.

Speaker 107 He'd be like, yep, that now is the team that is not going to do anything.

Speaker 28 And I think it's going to be the Texans this year. Yeah.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 52 Memes, that was fun.

Speaker 124 That was a lot of fun. That was a great second half.
Yeah. It was almost a perfect half of football.

Speaker 84 And Memes called it, too.

Speaker 56 He goes, the Jets are about to go on a touchdown drive right as the second half started.

Speaker 47 And he was right.

Speaker 26 And then they scored.

Speaker 59 Did they score in six straight possessions?

Speaker 141 Yeah, six second half scoring possessions for Zach Wilson.

Speaker 28 You guys figured it out. You unlocked Nathaniel Hackett's offense.

Speaker 56 I think they would have scored when he fumbled, too.

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 28 But that's just a rain.

Speaker 135 Yeah, that was a rain. But

Speaker 23 something clicked.

Speaker 28 I don't know what, but something clicked.

Speaker 108 It's crazy the overhit in this game.

Speaker 28 This game for the first half looked looked like the most miserable football experience to attend in person, maybe of the season. Yeah.

Speaker 28 It was just rainy, cold, Zach Wilson, Meadowlands, no points, punts. It was bad.
It was real bad. And then the second half was like completely different.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 No idea what happened to Zach at halftime, but I want to find out what that was.

Speaker 120 That's a good segue to the most miserable football game that we've seen in a very long time.

Speaker 1 The Vikings 3, Raiders 0.

Speaker 16 It was the lowest scoring game in NFL history in the indoor stadium.

Speaker 28 Yeah, so I was thinking about other 0-3 games, 3-0 games, and we all remember 2007, the Monday Night Football game. Dolphins.
Steelers, Dolphins.

Speaker 28 Jeff Reed kicked a field goal, I think, with, what, like, I don't know, 15 seconds left, 17 seconds left in the game to give the Steelers the win 3-0. That game was outdoors.

Speaker 28 That game was played at Heinz Field at the time.

Speaker 28 like a couple days after Pittsburgh played a home game there. The field was chewed up.
There was a punt that was hit in the game that just landed and didn't move.

Speaker 28 It just stuck into the earth because it was so muddy. This game was played in one of the newest stadiums

Speaker 28 on some of the most expensive grass. And it felt like

Speaker 28 every time I looked up at this game, one team or another had the ball at like the 40-yard line. Yeah.
And that was it. And it never really got close.

Speaker 71 It was 16 punts, eight three and outs.

Speaker 29 So half of the punts were three and outs.

Speaker 8 A missed field goal and an interception.

Speaker 76 That was the game.

Speaker 1 The two teams combined went 11 for 34 on third down.

Speaker 49 It was so miserable. Somehow they went three for three on fourth.

Speaker 28 That's pretty impressive. Pretty crazy.

Speaker 30 But yeah, it was the death of two

Speaker 53 fun storylines that were happening.

Speaker 74 One being Antonio Pierce and, you know, came in.

Speaker 19 Everyone's happy Josh McDaniels was gone because Josh McDaniels, by all accounts, is like the worst person ever.

Speaker 1 Wins two games. Now they've lost three straight.

Speaker 8 The other one, unfortunately, Josh Dobbs, he's learned too much. He knows too much of the offense.
He's back to being Josh Dobbs.

Speaker 88 I wish they had pulled the plug like a week earlier so that we could still have good memories because this was like when Nick Mullins has to come in and save the day, it might be over for Josh Dobbs.

Speaker 28 Yeah, it was very painful.

Speaker 28 Neither quarterback played well. Josh Dobbs, they should just have him not practice during the week.
Just have him show up on game day. I was like, I was like, get out there.

Speaker 28 We're going to roll the ball out there. And Josh, Josh, you just do your thing that you do.
Yeah. And that would be way more entertaining because the Vikings looked they were boring.

Speaker 28 The Raiders

Speaker 28 didn't look any better. I saw a report that Mark Davis met with Antonio Pierce for like an hour after the game.

Speaker 28 That would be something if he got fired.

Speaker 106 He'd probably just crying.

Speaker 28 As interim head coach.

Speaker 74 Mark Davis was probably crying in Antonio Pierce's arms, big burly arms.

Speaker 72 They're there. They're there, Mark.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 The best part of this game was the kegstand celebration by the Vikings defense. You got to turn over and go to the end zone, and they just lift the guy up like he's doing a cakes.

Speaker 28 And one of the other guys on the defense just walked around pretending to be drunk in the end zone, which was awesome.

Speaker 45 That was very cool.

Speaker 28 That's how I felt watching this. I wish it made me football drunk.

Speaker 92 The only other part of the game that I liked was the Vikings have a player, Josh Medelis.

Speaker 26 I don't know if I pronounced his name right.

Speaker 74 How many positions do you think he's played this year? Mr.

Speaker 28 Positions?

Speaker 137 He's Mr. Positions.

Speaker 28 On defense,

Speaker 38 four.

Speaker 95 He's played all of them.

Speaker 90 What?

Speaker 143 So they showed the graphic.

Speaker 86 He's played strong safety, free safety, left cornerback, cornerback, right cornerback, slot cornerback, left inside linebacker, right inside linebacker, middle linebacker, left outside linebacker, right outside linebacker, right defensive end, left defensive end.

Speaker 73 I guess he hasn't played nose tackle.

Speaker 28 That's Mr. Positions.

Speaker 6 How insane is that?

Speaker 28 It is pretty crazy. Also, I guess shout out to their defense.
Like Flores

Speaker 28 is doing some stuff that we haven't seen ever.

Speaker 14 The Vikings defense is one of those defenses at the beginning of the season, everyone's like,

Speaker 26 They didn't look like they made big steps from last year because that was their big problem.

Speaker 42 But they clearly have.

Speaker 1 They're playing a lot better, and it does suck because if you're a Vikings fan, like Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson, if they're playing on this team right now, they are a team that would be a threat in the NFC.

Speaker 28 So I read a headline and the first paragraph of an article about this defense. Go on.
Not to brag. I usually cut off at just like halfway through the headline.
I look at the picture and I go on vibes.

Speaker 28 This time I read the first paragraph.

Speaker 28 Brian Flores has invented a new way to play defense that's never been done in the NFL in terms of their zone blitzing and how they design the coverage on the back end.

Speaker 28 No coach can recognize it. No coach can figure it out, but he just sat down.
He's like, you know what? I've had a couple years to think this through. I'm just going to invent a new defense.

Speaker 28 So I guess part of that is having a guy that can play literally every

Speaker 28 position on the team.

Speaker 137 It's insane.

Speaker 67 That graphic, I was like, how is this possible?

Speaker 29 How is someone who can play

Speaker 70 cornerback and then also play defensive end?

Speaker 8 But he's done it.

Speaker 28 Doesn't make sense.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 91 Yeah, this game was tough.

Speaker 11 It was a tough watch.

Speaker 51 I just wanted

Speaker 28 a 0-0 tie. Is that too much to ask? It would have been great.
And it's also, yeah, it has been done. How many times, Jake?

Speaker 28 73. 73 times.
That's insane that there have been 73 times.

Speaker 130 The Dayton Triangles.

Speaker 28 Yeah. The Dayton Triangles.

Speaker 130 And the Cleveland Tigers. Who could forget? 1920.

Speaker 45 Yeah.

Speaker 67 I mean, that's such a mismatch in names.

Speaker 28 The Triangles and the Tigers.

Speaker 106 Yeah, the Tigers are going up against the Triangles.

Speaker 71 Yeah, well, they tied.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 28 And the mascot or the drawing that they had that represented the Dayton Triangles, just how could, how did people exist with football as it was back in the 1920s?

Speaker 28 How did the league ever survive to ever see the beautiful forward pass?

Speaker 53 Why were they, oh, it was named after their home field, Triangle Park.

Speaker 121 So that was a situation where it was

Speaker 125 like Anchorman, Michael Scott's character, which was just naming things.

Speaker 110 Like, what should we be named?

Speaker 69 Well, it's Triangle Park.

Speaker 51 Yep. Okay.
Triangles.

Speaker 60 Triangles.

Speaker 10 We'll be the triangles.

Speaker 28 Yeah, so I just wanted a 0-0 tie. I would like to see that at one point in my lifetime.

Speaker 28 And this was probably the closest that we're going to get to it.

Speaker 25 Oh, this is our, you know, who

Speaker 63 head coached the Dayton Triangles?

Speaker 52 Our guy, Greasy Neal.

Speaker 30 Have I already talked about Greasy Neal? Yeah.

Speaker 67 Because Greasy Neal, I think, played football and baseball and was like, he did everything.

Speaker 92 He coached in college and the NFL.

Speaker 106 Yeah, he won a couple NFL championships.

Speaker 137 Greasy Neal.

Speaker 47 Probably was in the war.

Speaker 4 And he played for the Reds.

Speaker 88 He was a beast, Greasy Neal.

Speaker 28 We did get a Josh Rosen stat line out of Josh Dobbs today.

Speaker 58 It was so bad. It was 10 for

Speaker 28 10 for 23, 63 yards. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So I feel like if you're the Vikings, you go with Nick Mullins or maybe Jaron Hall.

Speaker 27 Because remember, he actually had a little pep before he got concussed.

Speaker 28 I guess so.

Speaker 113 Yeah. But, I mean, just see what you got.

Speaker 87 You might as well.

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Speaker 51 Boys, breaking moose.

Speaker 144 Huge breaking moves.

Speaker 66 If you remember on Thursday, Max and Hank will not remember because they're in the 24-hour stream.

Speaker 52 We were previewing games and we said,

Speaker 8 we are Jake Browning, guys, because there's just no way that Jake Browning doesn't listen to this show.

Speaker 22 And his DMs were open.

Speaker 49 He didn't follow any of us.

Speaker 8 And I DMed him on Thursday at 3.10 and I said, Jake, we're rooting for you this weekend. Thanks for listening to the show.
A little presumptuous of me. Yeah.

Speaker 67 Just assuming he does.

Speaker 101 He just wrote me back at 9.05 tonight and said, thank you.

Speaker 58 Big fan of the show.

Speaker 47 Wow. Let's go.

Speaker 51 Jake Browning.

Speaker 13 We are Jake Browning guys. I love it.

Speaker 20 So we called our shot. So, Jake,

Speaker 66 you're in cluster with the quarterback?

Speaker 49 Yeah. Well, I said we'll get him on after the season.
I don't want, look, he's got something going,

Speaker 58 you know, it's going good right now.

Speaker 63 We don't want to mess with it.

Speaker 28 Yeah, Jake, if you listen to Friday's show, just know that there's a reason why me and Big Cat aren't in the NFL and you're in the NFL. But from two guys who watch a lot of NFL, it's time to cash in.

Speaker 36 Yeah, cash in. Cash that.

Speaker 120 Cash in. We'll be your agents.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 87 We also have other breaking moves.

Speaker 50 Breaking moves.

Speaker 40 We have a text battle going on on the pardon I take text chain.

Speaker 108 It says producers producing.

Speaker 16 It's producers producing.

Speaker 100 I'll read them in order.

Speaker 95 Hank sent us a stat and it says, this is a shocking stat.

Speaker 51 Thank you.

Speaker 67 Since 2000, there have been 106 teams with 10-plus wins through week 14 of the NFL season.

Speaker 42 Among that group, the 2023 Eagles rank 103rd with a point differential of plus 21.

Speaker 40 So relevant.

Speaker 26 That is a relevant stat.

Speaker 29 And then Max responded with a

Speaker 66 Patriots are eliminated from the playoffs graphic with the Lighthouse.

Speaker 28 Which is just a lashout stat.

Speaker 47 By the way.

Speaker 134 That's irrelevant.

Speaker 51 Wait, no, is it true or not?

Speaker 134 It's true, but we're not.

Speaker 51 That was true.

Speaker 9 Did that happen today?

Speaker 28 Good question.

Speaker 134 We're not talking about today.

Speaker 114 It did happen today.

Speaker 28 But it's NFL news from today.

Speaker 26 That is from today.

Speaker 78 But we're talking about...

Speaker 90 We're not talking about irrelevant.

Speaker 134 We haven't even talked about the Patriots today.

Speaker 8 And then Hank responded with a tweet from our good friend, Adam Farone, a.k.a.

Speaker 74 Sal Palantonio.

Speaker 105 Angelo Palatonio. And Angelo Palatonio, sorry.

Speaker 103 He wrote, no hyperbole.

Speaker 86 The Eagles look like one of the worst teams in the NFL over the last two weeks.

Speaker 8 Offense bad. Defense, bad.
I'm generally a positive person. There's no denying how abysmal the Eagles have looked sad.

Speaker 66 That's actually a good point by Roan.

Speaker 103 You keep going after the defense.

Speaker 69 The offense has looked very bad as well, Max.

Speaker 9 I don't think the.

Speaker 9 I can watch that game and go home and be like, that was a weird game for the offense. I think the defense is actually that bad.

Speaker 90 There was a lot of...

Speaker 28 There were weird games here now. But that was just the same thing.

Speaker 88 Yeah, they've played

Speaker 53 defenses

Speaker 39 and both have been weird games.

Speaker 9 But

Speaker 9 it was turnovers. You say turnover is a thing.
And our two best receivers just dropping balls that they do not normally drop.

Speaker 10 There's a lot of rhythm.

Speaker 9 Yeah, if there was like

Speaker 40 a bunch of stall drives and

Speaker 9 couldn't get the ball. I didn't see that as much tonight.
I think that the

Speaker 9 like I'm not as

Speaker 78 Mariota healthy.

Speaker 28 My question was going to be, is Jalen Hurts okay?

Speaker 111 He might not be okay. He might not be healthy.

Speaker 51 I mean, A.J.

Speaker 9 Brown and Devontae Smith just kept dropping balls.

Speaker 126 Yeah, they dropped some balls.

Speaker 9 Other than the fumble, I don't think that Hurts even looked that bad today.

Speaker 50 Okay.

Speaker 115 Well, the offenses look bad.

Speaker 110 They scored 13 points and 19 points against Kyle.

Speaker 11 Correct.

Speaker 51 But like, I tested.

Speaker 9 But the eye test.

Speaker 47 He does have to score points.

Speaker 94 Like, if the defense played

Speaker 85 20 points better,

Speaker 56 they still would have gone 0-2.

Speaker 83 Yeah, you say turnover luck is a thing.

Speaker 47 It is. Yeah.

Speaker 28 But that doesn't mean that if you commit a lot of turnovers, you're just unlucky.

Speaker 78 You guys also got a fumble touchdown.

Speaker 23 Yeah, good point, Hank. That's actually

Speaker 9 talking about the offense. No, but listen, turnover.

Speaker 25 Yeah, no, that ball bounced over.

Speaker 28 And you actually scored points.

Speaker 59 So the offense actually only scored six points, two field goals.

Speaker 127 I get it.

Speaker 9 I get it. But I can watch that game and be like, okay.

Speaker 78 The offense didn't score a touchdown, but we're good.

Speaker 120 Yeah, that's a good point, Hank.

Speaker 9 I'm not worried about the offense.

Speaker 25 Sounds like you should be.

Speaker 25 You didn't score a touchdown.

Speaker 9 Okay, okay, I get it. Like, what do you want to keep saying?

Speaker 45 Okay, let's just go back to the next one.

Speaker 79 Okay, let's move forward.

Speaker 28 Is this next game against the Seahawks? Is that a must-win?

Speaker 47 Yes. Oh,

Speaker 100 what happens if you lose, though?

Speaker 63 You're still in the playoffs.

Speaker 103 Well, you guys keep doing.

Speaker 83 It's either a must-win or it's not.

Speaker 9 And you fuckers keep saying this, and then no matter what I say,

Speaker 9 I'm still bad.

Speaker 28 Well, no, I'm just saying that you were 0 for 2 in your last two must-wins.

Speaker 9 But when I don't say it's a must win, you might not change the vibe.

Speaker 124 But if you say it's a must win, you get on me.

Speaker 9 But you fucking suck.

Speaker 33 There it is.

Speaker 28 At some point, Max, when you lose enough must-wins in a row, you got to change the vibe.

Speaker 83 I lose them all.

Speaker 14 The Max hater.

Speaker 8 You did get a bunch of new Max fans on Thursday after your MVP performance of the 24th.

Speaker 9 Yeah, because you guys just put me on the show and then try to make me mad. And then people are like, this guy sucks because he gets mad all the time.
But it's because you guys just make me mad.

Speaker 28 To be fair, we don't have to try very hard.

Speaker 67 We were eating dinner, and I said to Max, I was like, Is this one of those nights that you wish you weren't the producer of partner?

Speaker 90 He's like, Yes,

Speaker 51 just like grumbling.

Speaker 9 I just hate watching games with you guys. I hate watching Eagles.

Speaker 115 I like watching games with my boys, and you guys are all my boys.

Speaker 104 Me too.

Speaker 28 I cherished these days. It is.
You're going to miss this. We're family.
You're going to miss this out of the season.

Speaker 81 Someday we'll all be gone, and you'll be sad.

Speaker 9 I'll be watching Eagles games with people who like the Eagles.

Speaker 79 You have to watch the Super Bowl with Roan.

Speaker 63 And me.

Speaker 103 I like the Eagles at that point.

Speaker 121 It's just sad.

Speaker 51 Okay.

Speaker 52 All right. Next game.

Speaker 89 Big, big news for the Jake Browning fan club.

Speaker 10 We are the charter members.

Speaker 89 I love Jake Browning.

Speaker 66 We called our shot.

Speaker 47 He listens to the show.

Speaker 28 We should send him a bunch of Omaha steaks and a bunch of honey.

Speaker 36 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Eat up, big boy.

Speaker 110 You need your strength.

Speaker 8 Write exactly that on the note.

Speaker 119 Okay, 49ers, 28.

Speaker 59 Seahawks, 16.

Speaker 14 49ers are just really fucking good.

Speaker 24 This is how good the 49ers are.

Speaker 1 Christian McCaffrey had a

Speaker 1 72-yard play. Debo Samuel had a 54-yard play.

Speaker 42 Brandon Ayuk had a 45-yard play.

Speaker 85 Kittle had a 44-yard play.

Speaker 92 It's pretty fucking scary when all four of those guys are just like, yeah, let me rip off an insanely big play.

Speaker 28 I would say the 49ers at their best are better than any team in football. Yes.
At their best, they can't be beat.

Speaker 144 No.

Speaker 8 When Trent Williams, I mean, Max actually made a good point.

Speaker 128 Trent Williams should be in the conversation for MVP.

Speaker 28 He's mine. Yeah.

Speaker 51 My MVP. Yeah.

Speaker 88 He's, I mean, they, without,

Speaker 26 when, when the 49ers have had Debo Samuel and Trent Williams and everyone else, they have not lost.

Speaker 95 I think they might have lost the Browns game with them.

Speaker 111 I don't think Debo played in that game, actually.

Speaker 28 I think Trenton was in that game. Yeah.
And they lost because of a misfield goal.

Speaker 85 Yes, but they are a juggernaut in every sense of the word.

Speaker 8 And the Seahawks season is officially spiraled.

Speaker 51 This is a first four-loss, four-loss losing streak, four-game losing streak for Pete Carroll.

Speaker 8 So that's pretty impressive that he's gone that long.

Speaker 104 But yeah, and Jamal Adams covering in space is one of the funniest things.

Speaker 45 I love it.

Speaker 28 I love seeing Jamal Adams.

Speaker 45 He looks like us out there.

Speaker 28 I love seeing him get beat. I love every time he stinks.
He's a bad guy.

Speaker 101 He puts a smile on my face.

Speaker 89 Bad guy.

Speaker 28 Yikes. Yikes.
That's what I have to say. Yikes.

Speaker 85 Play that clip of him just trying to run after Debo.

Speaker 28 Yikes. Yikes.
Big yikes. It's okay.
Two different levels of bad guy. But you know how we love watching Greg Hardy get his ass kicked? Yeah.
Anytime he's not that bad guy. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 28 But it's the same vibe where it's like, I do enjoy watching Jamal Adams not be able to cover anybody. It is pretty good.

Speaker 28 The 49ers now, Jake, we talked about the bird gauntlet asterisks that you brought up.

Speaker 28 They've now beaten the Seahawks. It's not the Bird Gauntlet because they've had the Seahawks, Eagles, then they have Seahawks again,

Speaker 28 then the Cards,

Speaker 28 Ravens,

Speaker 28 no Falcons in there. But there's a chance that they play the Falcons at the playoffs, at which time we will anoint them to be victors of the Bird Gauntlet.
All right. Just to clean up.

Speaker 28 You can't have the Seahawks in there twice and act like you've beaten every bird team.

Speaker 130 Well, no one ever said every bird team.

Speaker 28 That's what the bird gauntlet is.

Speaker 130 Did we not talk about the Eagles having a gauntlet?

Speaker 28 I didn't see the bird gauntlet is a very specific type of game.

Speaker 89 I never saw bird gauntlet.

Speaker 28 The bird gauntlet is a very specific type of gauntlet. Yeah.
Okay. Just for the record.
But they're off to a good start against their mini gauntlets. They are.

Speaker 103 The Niners are really good.

Speaker 100 Outside of the Cow, like the Cowboys and the Niners are the two teams in the NFC now.

Speaker 103 And we should have given the Cowboys more credit.

Speaker 98 They look really fucking good.

Speaker 120 They stepped up.

Speaker 110 This was the big test for them, and they passed.

Speaker 28 I actually do think that if those two teams played again, it would be closer than the first time. I don't know who would win, but the Cowboys are now in the conversation.

Speaker 135 Yes, yes.

Speaker 8 But the Niners are just way better than every other team outside of the Cowboys, which you actually, they're way better than the Cowboys, too, because we have one piece of evidence, and they were way better than the Cowboys in that game.

Speaker 8 So the Niners are just on a different level.

Speaker 128 We have to have a conversation, though, PFT, about our good friend DK.

Speaker 42 Yeah.

Speaker 104 He's number one in the D.Va ranking.

Speaker 28 Is he D.Va or is he just like the George Pickens Live Wire?

Speaker 71 I think he might be D.Va.

Speaker 28 He was doing sign language for I can't believe Drew Locke is my quarterback when he slammed his helmet on the bench and broke everything.

Speaker 17 So

Speaker 120 I think that answers your question.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 18 That DK had to learn sign language because he knew he couldn't speak anymore because everything that came out was D.Va.

Speaker 50 Well, fact checking.

Speaker 118 Again, we love the D.Va wide receiver.

Speaker 8 He's so much fun to watch.

Speaker 3 He had an awesome touchdown, incredible body control, but he's a D.Va.

Speaker 28 Yeah, DK learned, apparently he learned sign language when he was in college, and then he started relearning over the past two weeks so that he can do touchdown celebrations.

Speaker 58 And also shit talk his quarterback.

Speaker 28 Well, no, I was making a joke about

Speaker 28 when he slammed his helmet. That's what that was American Sign Language for.
But he did do sign language again after he scored a touchdown. I don't know what he said.

Speaker 28 I saw a tweet that said he spelled out my dog's name is Woof. Oh.
So I don't know if that was a typo. Can you do it? What is it called if you like slur your words doing sign language? I don't know.

Speaker 28 He might have had a typo, but apparently that's what he said. Or it might have been a tweet that I misread.
But yeah, that's his touchdown celebration.

Speaker 28 It's just, okay, I'm going to make Roderick Dell go to to his Dakota ring and figure out if he has to find me for anything that I said.

Speaker 8 I think the Diva wide receiver rankings are as such.

Speaker 125 DK Metcalf won, Stefan Diggs, two.

Speaker 28 Diggs is definitely up there. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 11 He's a clear two.

Speaker 84 And it goes back and forth each week.

Speaker 28 I would say DK, more of a D.Va. Diggs might be Malkinton.
He could. He might be a Malkinton.

Speaker 95 Borderlines.

Speaker 94 Both of them have the thing where it's like, they're so, so good.

Speaker 116 But at least once or twice a game, you're like, it doesn't feel like they want to be here.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Odell used to have that, but I don't think he has anymore.

Speaker 8 I don't think he's good enough to be a D.Va anymore.

Speaker 108 Today was pretty good. He was very good today.

Speaker 96 But I'm saying, like, you have to be a clear head and shoulders number one.

Speaker 53 Odell was that for a lot of his career.

Speaker 21 Now he's, you know, he's more of a piece of a puzzle.

Speaker 51 Yeah.

Speaker 28 DK, he's definitely, he's in the combination.

Speaker 100 Again, we like the D.Va wide receiver.

Speaker 98 It's a lost art.

Speaker 28 I think it's a combination with DK, though, that you don't get with a lot of other D.Va wide receivers where he's he is kind of a diva, but he's also like a really fucking pissed off diva. Yeah.

Speaker 28 To the point where like he's a physical diva.

Speaker 28 And so he'll take it out on.

Speaker 99 Did he get kicked out today?

Speaker 28 No, but he had a couple of plays that were close to the edge. That's what I like about him: his divatude.

Speaker 61 He did get kicked out.

Speaker 25 He did get kicked out. Yeah, I thought he did.

Speaker 138 He got booted.

Speaker 28 Yeah. I missed that.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 His divatude goes up against the other team as much as it does against his own team sometimes. Which, if you're going to be a diva, that's the way to do it.

Speaker 89 Yeah, the Seahawks are in big-time trouble.

Speaker 102 They're,

Speaker 131 yeah, they're not good right now.

Speaker 101 And Devin Witherspoon got hurt.

Speaker 123 They are playing next week, fortunately.

Speaker 24 What was this that?

Speaker 110 103rd out of 106 teams that started 10-0.

Speaker 109 So they have a chance.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 67 They have a chance next week. They do.

Speaker 120 It'll be a good game.

Speaker 71 Is that a primetime game?

Speaker 65 I don't know.

Speaker 71 Is that a primetime game?

Speaker 67 Seahawks, Eagles?

Speaker 9 I don't believe so. No, it is.
It got Flux Monday night.

Speaker 68 They should stream that. That was Flux of the Year.

Speaker 130 Come on.

Speaker 130 Come on.

Speaker 9 Mondays. Mondays.

Speaker 63 Monday's sacred.

Speaker 141 You don't watch football on Mondays.

Speaker 10 I watch Eagles. It's Maxim.

Speaker 98 It's Maxim.

Speaker 28 Actually, that's always a treat, though, when you do get a standalone game that you don't have to stream.

Speaker 63 Yeah, and you don't have to work after.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 47 That's pretty good.

Speaker 28 So, Max, I want you. I actually give you permission to get hammered drunk during that game.
Yeah. As long as even if you're losing, Max, if you're losing, you still have to do your videos.

Speaker 142 Yeah.

Speaker 79 Can I come? Yes.

Speaker 36 Hank can come.

Speaker 51 No.

Speaker 47 No, no, Hank, Hank, you should.

Speaker 28 You're a producer, right? I am. You can produce Max at night.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 What does that even mean?

Speaker 28 He's going to produce you. You're going to produce.
So hard.

Speaker 89 He's going to produce.

Speaker 84 Yeah,

Speaker 77 the Niners' only last real test is going to be the Ravens.

Speaker 73 I think that's Monday Night Football.

Speaker 95 And it's... Oh, no, it's actually Christmas Day.

Speaker 140 So it's Christmas Day night.

Speaker 23 I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 49 Which, by the way, we will have a show on that.

Speaker 8 I'm going to repeat it a bunch of times times because I don't want people to be like, why didn't you tell us?

Speaker 49 So this is my first time telling you.

Speaker 117 Christmas week, we're going to have a show on Tuesday because we're not going to record Christmas Eve.

Speaker 16 We're going to have a show on Tuesday recapping everything from the weekend.

Speaker 85 A show on Friday getting ready for the next weekend.

Speaker 41 And then same thing for the week of New Year's.

Speaker 8 We're going to do a show on Tuesday.

Speaker 42 So we'll record Monday night after the playoff games, college football, and another show Friday.

Speaker 78 Here on Monday night.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 101 But I just want people, because it's a little bit of a funky schedule.

Speaker 109 It's so stupid.

Speaker 66 They should never have, they should never allow Christmas and New Year's on a Monday.

Speaker 26 I agree with that.

Speaker 107 That should be illegal.

Speaker 28 Best time is when it's on, I think, a Thursday.

Speaker 74 Yeah, because you get that bonus.

Speaker 28 You get the bonus bump.

Speaker 125 Yeah, you get the bonus time.

Speaker 87 Okay, so.

Speaker 111 Does anybody call DK Mikay yet?

Speaker 28 Once Peter King starts calling him Mikay Metcalf,

Speaker 28 that's when you're really a Diva.

Speaker 66 And I totally understand DK's frustration.

Speaker 47 The Seahawks have.

Speaker 26 What were they, six and two?

Speaker 26 No, they were six and three.

Speaker 113 Six and three. Six and three.

Speaker 110 You talked me out of betting them to win the NFC West.

Speaker 11 Thank God.

Speaker 136 Because they have fallen off a cliff.

Speaker 28 Now, that being said, I wouldn't be shocked if they beat the Eagles.

Speaker 11 No, everyone could beat the Eagles.

Speaker 28 They're one of what?

Speaker 28 Was that 100? 103?

Speaker 141 106.

Speaker 98 They're 103rd out of 106.

Speaker 11 Okay, yeah, so the Seahawks could beat them.

Speaker 120 And one of those teams had to have been that Steelers team.

Speaker 28 Oh, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 51 Okay.

Speaker 1 Wrapping up two more games.

Speaker 66 Broncos 24, Chargers, 7.

Speaker 98 The Broncos are,

Speaker 19 they probably will make the playoffs. I feel like they're going to make the playoffs.
They're playing some good ball.

Speaker 140 The Chargers are just a debacle.

Speaker 21 I guess they're just not going to fire Brandon Staley now because they're just going to wait till after the season. But Justin Herbert got hurt.

Speaker 100 Didn't matter. When he was in, it wasn't good.

Speaker 82 Yeah, they were bad.

Speaker 85 We talked about it on Friday.

Speaker 58 The Chargers have no offense.

Speaker 102 Like,

Speaker 120 they're getting by on just

Speaker 33 total.

Speaker 70 Like, remember the Chargers last year or the year before when they had offensive explosion everywhere.

Speaker 22 Keenan Allen is it.

Speaker 98 And Austin Eckler looks slow as fuck.

Speaker 28 He's slow. He got up to 13 miles per hour the other week.

Speaker 89 Yeah.

Speaker 85 And Justin Herbert was in before he broke his finger.

Speaker 74 He was 9 for 17 for 96 yards and interception.

Speaker 49 I assume he's out for a while.

Speaker 81 He's got a broken finger on his throwing hand.

Speaker 89 Yeah. Shut him down.

Speaker 61 He's breaking all his hands.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Shut him down.
Wait for a new coach to come in and see if you can fix him.

Speaker 89 Yeah, Easton Stick.

Speaker 28 Easton Stick played.

Speaker 28 So that's pretty much all you need to know about the Chargers today. The Broncos, this was a take-care business game.
Yeah. They took care of business.

Speaker 13 And Cortland Sutton was really fucking good.

Speaker 28 I'm going to say something that might be reckless.

Speaker 81 Oh, man.

Speaker 28 Should I say it?

Speaker 58 Do you know what I'm going to say? I know what you're going to say.

Speaker 28 Do you know what I'm going to say?

Speaker 96 I looked at the schedule.

Speaker 28 Yeah, so did I.

Speaker 28 The Broncos can still win the AFC West if Mike Pence has the courage.

Speaker 42 They're one game out.

Speaker 28 They're one game out. And

Speaker 28 there's a world where they only lose one of the remaining games. They might,

Speaker 28 could run the table. The problem is the Chiefs schedule also is very easy.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs play the Patriots, Raiders, Bengals, Chargers.

Speaker 104 Jake Browning, though, he's going to whoop that ass.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I looked at the Bengals. I thought maybe that's their loss.

Speaker 28 Maybe this is the Patriots' opportunity to play spoiler, Hank, for old times. They got two chances.

Speaker 49 They're playing the Broncos as well.

Speaker 82 They could spoil both of them.

Speaker 28 Spoil somebody. All right, so I don't think that they're going to win that division.
I think it's still the Chiefs. We're not going to fall into the trap.
I just fell into the trap.

Speaker 28 I just fell into the trap of saying, Yeah, maybe the Chiefs won't win. The Chiefs are still going to win that division, but the Broncos are going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 25 And they're good.

Speaker 90 Yeah. They're like

Speaker 28 a good team, period. They're not a great team.
They're a good team. Way better.
Sean Payton, right now, I guess he was right not trading away as players.

Speaker 28 That ass kicking from the Dolphins probably had a lot to do with it.

Speaker 74 Wait, breaking moves. Sorry.

Speaker 91 Hank's comedy set just ended.

Speaker 78 Oh, wow. Oh, that wasn't that bad.

Speaker 51 No.

Speaker 90 That was a long time.

Speaker 141 That was a long time. Here's what you can do.
That was a long time, dude.

Speaker 28 If you want to do a comedy show that lasts an hour, just ask Max a bunch of questions about the Eagles. Little pro tip.
Dad,

Speaker 107 we might allow you to have Max as a prop.

Speaker 78 As a plant in the audience.

Speaker 142 As a prop.

Speaker 104 You can cut him in half.

Speaker 130 What if they're in the Super Bowl at that time?

Speaker 51 No, they're not crazy. With the Eagles?

Speaker 36 Yeah.

Speaker 51 Come on.

Speaker 19 Yeah, the Broncos.

Speaker 80 They're still alive. Yeah.

Speaker 96 So when the the AFC West, they're crazy.

Speaker 28 They're alive. And it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world if it happened.
It's probably not going to happen. But the fact that we're having that conversation.

Speaker 80 It'd be pretty crazy.

Speaker 28 It'd be pretty nuts. Yeah.

Speaker 27 Especially considering how bad they looked in September.

Speaker 28 They looked real bad. Real bad.
They were maybe the worst team in football. Yeah.

Speaker 26 And so now Russell Wilson, maybe he's.

Speaker 72 He's still not

Speaker 82 great, but they're winning.

Speaker 89 He's.

Speaker 28 He's good. He's like, if you look at it.

Speaker 81 Our friend Mark Slerth ripped him a new one the other day.

Speaker 28 About what?

Speaker 110 uh just the russell wilson stuff like he's running into sacks he's doing check downs not looking down the field like just

Speaker 60 his stats can look good but if you're watching the game there's so many plays that he's leaving on the table which is fair fair points you might be leaving a few plays on the table but considering what we were looking at earlier this season and last year it's night and day with russell wilson absolutely and cortland sutton's really really good jerry judy uh javante williams like they have weapons it's they're they're not a bad team.

Speaker 28 Yeah,

Speaker 28 is it the quarterbacks coach for the Broncos? I believe it is,

Speaker 28 is it this guy? Davis Webb. You remember Davis Webb? Yeah, yeah, of course.
So I think he's the quarterback coach or off. I think he's QB coach.

Speaker 28 He looks way more disheveled than I thought that he would look.

Speaker 25 Really?

Speaker 28 For some reason, I had memory hold Davis Webb as being a clean-cut guy.

Speaker 28 He's got a little Charlie Whiteheart. Stanford?

Speaker 11 No.

Speaker 67 Texas Tech. Texas.

Speaker 104 I'm thinking of Davis Mills.

Speaker 39 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 28 Yeah, he's done a good job. We know he's Colorado now.

Speaker 101 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Colorado Defense.

Speaker 81 He got Coloradoed.

Speaker 119 He's got the beard and the long hair.

Speaker 81 He got Coloradoed.

Speaker 28 Whatever they're doing with Davis Webb and Sean Payton out there, good job. I'm going to put them in my personal Coach of the Year rankings.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 20 All right.

Speaker 60 Last game.

Speaker 14 Bills, 20.

Speaker 67 Chiefs, 17.

Speaker 6 What a game.

Speaker 49 Not the best played game.

Speaker 42 Both quarterbacks were not playing at elite level.

Speaker 92 It wasn't like like the

Speaker 92 divisional round we saw, but whatever it was, three or four years ago, the 13-second games.

Speaker 98 But the Bills' playoff hopes stay alive.

Speaker 56 We talked about it on Friday. They were 35-1 to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 104 They went down to 18-1.

Speaker 126 The big story from this game, though, is Patrick Mahomes complaining about Kadarius Toney being off sides in what was one of the coolest plays ever because

Speaker 117 he threw it to Travis Kelsey, who then threw it backwards, a perfect spiral to Kadarius Toney, who scored a touchdown.

Speaker 98 Flag called it back.

Speaker 26 Kadarius Toney was standing offsides to start the play.

Speaker 81 And Patrick Mahomes,

Speaker 8 I don't remember a time when he's been like this after a game.

Speaker 28 No, and the handshake with Josh Allen, Jake is probably heated about that.

Speaker 54 Yeah, very bad sportsmanship.

Speaker 28 Yeah, the handshake was bad sportsmanship. He was complaining about the play.

Speaker 28 If you saw, listen, I know that there's a lot of times in an NFL game where there are subjective calls, and a lot of times when you're lining up as a receiver, they give you the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 28 I don't think I've ever seen an offensive player more off sides than Kadarius Toney was.

Speaker 28 He was in the pool report after the game where they asked Carl Cheffers, great referee name, by the way, Carl Cheffers. They asked him about the call.

Speaker 28 He said, yeah, you know, sometimes we do give a little bit of leeway, but if our lineman can't actually see the ball because your player is so far off sides, if it's that blatant, we will throw a flag 10 times out of 10.

Speaker 103 It also, it's so funny because all the Andy Reid complained, Patrick Mahomes complained.

Speaker 1 Notice that none of them are saying he wasn't off sides.

Speaker 19 Yeah, he was.

Speaker 95 Their complaint is that you can't call that.

Speaker 28 Because it made a cool play less cool, which in Henry, I understand that because I always think that if a play is cool enough, they should just throw away whatever penalty flags on the field.

Speaker 28 But if you're a player, you have to understand, yeah, they threw the flag at the start of the play because your guy was very, very offsides.

Speaker 138 Well, and if you go under the same reasoning that it was technically a penalty, but in this time and place, you can't call a ticky-tack call like that.

Speaker 1 Well, unfortunately for the Chiefs, they've just lost their Super Bowl from last year.

Speaker 28 That's very true.

Speaker 143 That's the part that's like, Pat Mahomes, I love you.

Speaker 116 You're great. You're the best quarterback in the world.

Speaker 85 But you do have to realize that if you're going to make this complaint, you open yourself up to literally the play that ended the Super Bowl last year.

Speaker 28 And he did say

Speaker 28 that last week, I like to see the boys play when they got hosed on that pass interference.

Speaker 28 So he built up a little bit of credit with the refs by being like, I'm not going to complain about a blown call today, but then a week from now, I'm going to reverse on that entirely.

Speaker 28 Also, what Mahomes is asking for here,

Speaker 28 I'm not a very smart man. I don't understand physics that well.
I don't understand anything about the universe or the time-space continuum, but I do know that he was asking for a flag that was thrown.

Speaker 28 He says that they should not have thrown a flag at the start of the play because the end of the play that happened afterwards was way cooler. Right.

Speaker 28 Unfortunately for Patrick Mahomes, the way time works is that they threw the flag and then the play happened.

Speaker 1 And here's another part of this.

Speaker 47 So

Speaker 76 I would normally kind of agree with him if it's like, hey, look, this is, you know, the ref is usually talking to the wide receivers.

Speaker 39 There is an ongoing dialogue of, hey, you got to back up.

Speaker 19 You're not on the side. Like, this does happen.

Speaker 1 We see this in football.

Speaker 68 But the NFL did make a point of doing this this year.

Speaker 29 So in 2021, this exact penalty was called one time.

Speaker 8 Last year, this exact penalty was called two times.

Speaker 28 I remember one of those.

Speaker 8 This year, this penalty was called 11 times so far.

Speaker 14 So that's just coaching and Kadarius Toney not like, it's clear they've made it a point of emphasis.

Speaker 119 It's clear they're going to call it more.

Speaker 116 You can't then be like, we never saw this coming.

Speaker 103 You never call it.

Speaker 138 No, no, they do call it this year.

Speaker 108 They have called it this year.

Speaker 27 They've told everyone they're going to call it this year.

Speaker 116 And what they do, they called it.

Speaker 49 And again, it just goes back to

Speaker 53 Mahomes and Andy Reid are not saying he he was not off sides.

Speaker 100 They're admitting that he was off sides.

Speaker 24 But you can't call it there.

Speaker 101 Right, but you can't call it.

Speaker 116 And then if we do the you can't call it there, we just go right back to James Bradbury.

Speaker 16 Yeah, so I which was a penalty and should and it was.

Speaker 114 James Bradbury said that, but the argument that everyone said is you can't call it there.

Speaker 94 It's the biggest moment in the Super Bowl, but that's you.

Speaker 96 You just fell into a trap.

Speaker 94 He mousetrapped himself.

Speaker 28 Also, is Kadarius Toney doing this? Kadarius Toney

Speaker 28 is he's now cost you two games personally at wide receiver, which is very hard to do, to say that one player is directly responsible for two losses.

Speaker 28 With Tony, I don't think that you can even make the argument that it is. He definitely is.
It was a great play, though. Shout out to Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 28 That play is open probably 10 times a game downfield if you have your guy running in the right place and the person with the ball being on the lookout for it because of how the defense converges on the ball carrier.

Speaker 28 They're not worried about anybody else on the field.

Speaker 28 That play is open all the time. That's what I've been saying for the last seven years on this show.
Travis Kelsey's got balls to throw that, and it was awesome.

Speaker 25 Perfect pass.

Speaker 28 It was an awesome throw. And Mahomes after the game said, it's tough to swallow, not only for me and football in general, to take away greatness like that.

Speaker 28 For a guy to make a play like that, you want to see the guys on the field decide the game.

Speaker 28 I hope they still show it whenever he goes into the Hall of Fame because that's a legendary moment that we don't really get to witness.

Speaker 125 I'm going to say they're probably not going to.

Speaker 28 I think they should. It was a good thing that they will.
It was that good. Look at you emotional, Mahomes.

Speaker 89 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Mahomes, very emotional.

Speaker 28 Here's also um just an idea and again this is we're not criticizing he's the best quarterback in the nfl but maybe instead of yelling at the refs you should yell at your receivers because they're dog shit real bad and like outside of rashi rice they just drop balls and fumble balls and and they just the chiefs are broken offensively i think you just need to you need to realize that kadarius toney is maybe probably definitely better off not being on the field it's i mean although he did score the touchdown he did from travis kelsey that's going to be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 32 So, yeah,

Speaker 28 he had a Hall of Fame catch on that one. Yeah.

Speaker 98 Other things in this game, Tony Romo called Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey's wife.

Speaker 45 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Interesting, Tony. My theory on that was that Tony's got a thing for Taylor Swift, and he called her his wife so that she'd have to be like, no, I'm not actually his wife.
And I was like, oh, really?

Speaker 28 You're not.

Speaker 89 Oh, so you're single.

Speaker 51 So you're technically single.

Speaker 28 Oh, speaking of that, I put you guys on Jeff Darlington Taylor Swift watch the other night when Jeff was sitting outside Lambeau Field. Taylor rolls up.
He takes a video of her going in.

Speaker 28 She turns back and looks at him. Today, she drives by in the golf cart.
She gives him a cute little wave.

Speaker 28 I think Taylor Swift has a thing for Jeff Darlington. I think that we've seen

Speaker 76 by the NFL. By the game.

Speaker 42 Yeah, by the game. By his look.

Speaker 20 Taylor Swift also had

Speaker 85 just looking so fierce walking in the tunnel beforehand.

Speaker 24 That's it.

Speaker 98 The Swifties now have to deal with losing football games, which is so funny.

Speaker 58 Because they just hopped on and they're like, Chiefs always win.

Speaker 28 The Swifties are going to hit.

Speaker 80 We watched them kill the Bears. We watched them beat the Jets.

Speaker 28 They're going to hate Kadarius Toney.

Speaker 68 Yeah, and just losing football games sucks.

Speaker 13 So welcome to our world.

Speaker 1 Losing sucks.

Speaker 30 Sunday nights usually suck.

Speaker 49 Sucks for you now.

Speaker 59 So yeah,

Speaker 122 the Chiefs are in trouble.

Speaker 8 And then the Bills, I mean, Josh Allen was doing all the Josh Allen things today, just mashing all the buttons.

Speaker 96 I don't know why the Bills don't feature James Cook more.

Speaker 92 He's so electric.

Speaker 59 Every time he touches the ball, like the first half, he was dominating.

Speaker 28 That seam pass that he caught? Yeah. I feel like like that's always open, the running back taking the seam like that.

Speaker 123 And then he had one a wheel route, too, which was awesome.

Speaker 17 So the Bills are still alive.

Speaker 101 They got to beat the Cowboys next week because they don't have a margin for error.

Speaker 39 And it does get a little easier because I think they play the Patriots and the Chargers who might not have Justin Herbert.

Speaker 66 But this is another must-win next week.

Speaker 28 Backs against the wall time for Buffalo.

Speaker 106 Yeah, and I mean, it's actually not a bad spot for them because the Cowboys are coming off.

Speaker 100 you know, a huge win against the Eagles at home, Sunday night football.

Speaker 98 Now they have to go to Buffalo.

Speaker 85 You've got to hope it's cold.

Speaker 28 Do you think there's any chance that McDermott was playing like 10-dimensional chess,

Speaker 28 waiting for this story to break? He leaked it to Ty Dunn at the right time so that he could be like, nobody believes in us. It's us against the world.

Speaker 28 Everyone's coming after your coach for saying that the 9-11 hijackers did a good job. It's time to circle the wagons and go on a run here.
I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Backs against the wall.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Maybe a genius move by Sean McDermott.
Maybe you'd be a bit genius move. Comparing Al-Qaeda.

Speaker 66 Listen, I still bet him 35-1, even after I was momentarily deterred by you breaking that news to me on Friday.

Speaker 42 But yeah,

Speaker 143 I still think

Speaker 85 it's still going to be very hard for them to make the playoffs.

Speaker 100 But if they get there, given what's happened in the AFC in terms of injuries and the flaws teams have looked like,

Speaker 76 they are just as live as anyone else if they get into the dance.

Speaker 28 Yeah, the point is

Speaker 28 you'd rather suck out loud for most of the year than have a star player get hurt. Right, right.

Speaker 51 Early on in the season. Right, right.

Speaker 29 And the Bills defense is not playing bad.

Speaker 104 I mean, I couldn't believe Von Miller was playing, but he is.

Speaker 28 Yeah, he's battling back, too.

Speaker 28 He's back. He's out there.

Speaker 142 Yeah, he's out there.

Speaker 28 I saw Andy Reid complaining that

Speaker 28 he was offside.

Speaker 8 He was.

Speaker 28 And he was offside. I saw another breakdown from Mitchell Schwartz,

Speaker 28 guest. Parallax effect.
We got Parallax effect. Oh.
He was actually on side. Oh, because I saw the dots, and he looked offsides.

Speaker 71 Oh, on the dots?

Speaker 107 Yeah, on the dots, he looked offside.

Speaker 32 You were on bezos vision i saw the dots okay well according tice tweeted out the dots okay he was off sides according to the parallax effect per mitchell schwartz he was on side i um chiefs fans you just you have to deal with this like i don't think anyone feels bad for you no there's no one who feels bad for no really you get to root for the chiefs that's awesome yeah you get to root for patrick mahomes for another decade plus yeah so you had a couple losses that maybe had referees you know on the wrong side it's also worked out for you again in the past.

Speaker 24 So you can't be upset.

Speaker 58 You can be upset. You can be upset.
You could be upset.

Speaker 28 You're definitely allowed to be upset.

Speaker 51 You could be upset, but I mean, they won the Super Bowl on nonsense.

Speaker 78 Right.

Speaker 49 So you could be upset.

Speaker 16 Just know that if you bring it up, you're going to get the response of James Bradman.

Speaker 28 Hank, you also went to the Super Bowl on a

Speaker 28 nonsense. Offside.
Frank Clark offside.

Speaker 8 He was offsides in that play.

Speaker 28 They called it. Yeah, but in a moment like that,

Speaker 42 can't call it.

Speaker 28 The refs need to have a better sense of the moment.

Speaker 70 That's all it matters. Last two minutes, there should just be no penalties.

Speaker 47 Let the boys play.

Speaker 58 Let the boys maul each other. I like that.

Speaker 90 Holding.

Speaker 28 It's like in hockey when they go to playoffs, like in the overtime periods in the playoffs, the refs just swallow the whistle.

Speaker 19 Yeah. Let them run out there.

Speaker 82 Yeah, just let them go.

Speaker 81 Let them go.

Speaker 81 Okay.

Speaker 66 That was a great game, though.

Speaker 18 It wasn't the best-played game, like I said.

Speaker 15 It feels like

Speaker 39 both those defenses have kind of figured out the offenses because when they play, it doesn't feel like it's the shootout that we had in that playoff game.

Speaker 28 It was still a history game, just because you have all that history between those two quarterbacks.

Speaker 88 You do have history.

Speaker 24 And I don't know what it is, but the Bills have never played the Chiefs at home.

Speaker 121 Nope.

Speaker 1 They just always are an arrowhead.

Speaker 144 Yep.

Speaker 26 It just always works that way.

Speaker 123 And now we might get Patrick Mahomes the real question about his career.

Speaker 72 Can he win a road playoff game?

Speaker 28 I want to find out.

Speaker 39 I want to find out, too.

Speaker 22 And it looks like we, I mean, they are, I think I saw that nerd, Steve Kernaki, said they have a 9% chance to get the one seed now.

Speaker 110 9%.

Speaker 28 So if

Speaker 99 the Dolphins and Ravens play each other, so that helps them.

Speaker 11 We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 28 But at the end of the day, in the playoffs, I'm probably still going to be betting on Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.
No matter who he's playing against.

Speaker 42 All right.

Speaker 5 Let's do our overly direct take.

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Speaker 144 Hank.

Speaker 78 My overly direct take of the weekend is that the Eagles are going to lose the first round of the playoffs.

Speaker 144 Oh, Hank.

Speaker 28 Now, Hank, you wouldn't have just said that because you didn't have an overly direct take and you wanted to say something that would make Max angry, would you?

Speaker 78 No. No, I've been thinking about it.
I was watching the defense. Defense wins championships.
Yeah. And the Eagles' defense doesn't exist, really.

Speaker 120 What do you grade that overly direct take, Max, as you always do?

Speaker 10 It's hot. Hot take.

Speaker 47 It's overly direct. Yep.

Speaker 120 PFT, what's your overly direct take?

Speaker 28 My overly direct take is that the New England Patriots are eliminated from the playoffs.

Speaker 10 Oh.

Speaker 51 Now, PFT,

Speaker 61 that's my take. That's my take.

Speaker 8 You didn't come up with that overly direct take because that was texted to us.

Speaker 28 No, I would never come up with it because it was texted to us. I just don't think that the Patriots are any good.

Speaker 78 Fact or take.

Speaker 45 Fact. Both.

Speaker 28 That is a fact. Yeah, I think it's both, too.

Speaker 28 It's both.

Speaker 26 I have an overly direct take that is not just off the top of my head.

Speaker 52 It's something that I've actually been thinking about for the last two days because I was lucky enough to attend the Army-Navy game on Saturday at Foxborough, and I got to see the Lighthouse in person.

Speaker 78 In Foxborough.

Speaker 135 In Foxborough. What did I say?

Speaker 40 At Foxborough.

Speaker 20 Okay.

Speaker 67 And I got to see the Lighthouse in person.

Speaker 66 And my overly direct take is...

Speaker 81 There's never been anyone who's been more wrong about anything ever in the world than Henry Lockwood about this Lighthouse.

Speaker 71 It doesn't even have a top to it.

Speaker 51 It does have a top to it. Are you talking?

Speaker 62 It doesn't have a real top to it. So it can get rained.

Speaker 100 Where do you think people stand?

Speaker 143 The lighthouse, you got to have the top to it.

Speaker 20 There's no top.

Speaker 16 It's got to have a top. What the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 143 It just, there's no top.

Speaker 79 The lighthouse has to have a light.

Speaker 28 No, a lighthouse. It has like a guardrail around the outside.

Speaker 51 It has that.

Speaker 143 All lighthouses have this top where it gets really skinny at the top.

Speaker 94 It doesn't have the top.

Speaker 14 It's the same fucking length the whole time.

Speaker 82 Look.

Speaker 96 See, that's what a lighthouse looks like.

Speaker 95 You get the head of the penis.

Speaker 96 It doesn't have the head. It doesn't have it.
It's all shaft.

Speaker 28 It's uncircumcised.

Speaker 119 Hank's never been more wrong about anything.

Speaker 104 That's my overly direct take.

Speaker 28 I did have probably hundreds of people send me pictures of the lighthouse this weekend. Yeah.

Speaker 124 It looks

Speaker 79 worse.

Speaker 40 It looks bad. It looks bad.

Speaker 98 I'll say this.

Speaker 125 It's a lot smaller in person than I thought.

Speaker 69 It would be a lot smaller in person.

Speaker 28 You would never say that everybody.

Speaker 78 I'd be real disappointed if you went to Cape Hatteras then.

Speaker 28 Cape Hatteras is beautiful.

Speaker 112 It's a a great lighthouse.

Speaker 66 Jake, what's your overly direct take?

Speaker 130 My overly direct take, brought to you by DirecTV, is that the Texans, excuse me, the Broncos, Bengals, and Bills are all out of the playoffs right now.

Speaker 130 They're all going to be the wildcard teams in the AFC.

Speaker 28 Broncos, Bengals, Bills. Yes, they are.

Speaker 90 Killer B.

Speaker 51 So

Speaker 56 the Browns are not going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 142 Yes. Wow.
Disagree.

Speaker 26 I disagree as well.

Speaker 130 I think a few weeks ago, my overly direct take was that Joe Flacco is going to take them to the playoffs.

Speaker 112 Oh, Jake, Jake.

Speaker 130 Conflicting overly direct take before we sat down to record this show jake said i am fired up about sportsmanship yes i'm going to give you 10 seconds to be fired up fired up about sportsmanship starting now i understand in the heat of the moment that patrick mahomes was upset but he should not have expressed that while he's doing the handshake with josh allen jail

Speaker 130 there's 10 seconds

Speaker 130 that's a great that's a tight 10 seconds yeah yeah i think he should have just been like go to game and then he could have complained and

Speaker 130 But not saying it to him.

Speaker 66 Max, what's your overly direct take?

Speaker 9 Bronnie James will win an NBA Finals before the Patriots make the playoffs again.

Speaker 14 Oh, Bronnie James played in his first game at USC today.

Speaker 22 He's going to lose.

Speaker 43 He's in the NBA.

Speaker 95 They lost his minus 1,000 favorites.

Speaker 134 He scored four points.

Speaker 130 He was a good time to Long Beach State.

Speaker 28 Yeah, but you know, Braun's going to make them draft him.

Speaker 49 Before the Patriots make the playoffs?

Speaker 11 Yes.

Speaker 50 Playoffs?

Speaker 13 Well, he might.

Speaker 53 He might.

Speaker 79 Actually, no.

Speaker 49 Now, Max, this isn't because you're

Speaker 78 in the NBA NBA because he's a LeBron son.

Speaker 78 He's not going to play.

Speaker 9 He'll be on a roster.

Speaker 101 He'll probably be on LeBron's team. Yeah.

Speaker 51 By the time that happens, LeBron's going to be washwashed.

Speaker 134 They're not going to make

Speaker 42 a sink.

Speaker 51 They're just going to bring him in for camp and we'll put him as the last guy.

Speaker 78 They're about to have the number one, two, or three pick, dude.

Speaker 123 No, not one.

Speaker 126 That's mine.

Speaker 90 Yeah. I got that.

Speaker 126 I told you.

Speaker 69 I fucking put it right next to me. When I drive into work every day, put the buckle on.

Speaker 74 Just fucking pat it on the head. Like, yeah, there he is.
I carry it around, put it right next to me.

Speaker 78 Maserati Marv.

Speaker 29 I'm sit down.

Speaker 103 People come by and like, hey, what is that?

Speaker 47 What does that sit next to you? It's like, oh, this is a number.

Speaker 97 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 8 That is exactly how I treat the number one pick and walk around.

Speaker 90 That's cute. Yeah.

Speaker 28 And who would throw the ball to Maserati Marv?

Speaker 28 Maybe we signed Flacco.

Speaker 9 Yeah,

Speaker 9 that sounds like a playoff team, huh? Be smart.

Speaker 92 Like, if I listed my, if I had to, like, do like a will or something, I'd list like all, all my financial assets, and I'd, I'd include the number one pick.

Speaker 43 Like, I have this.

Speaker 51 That's a lot.

Speaker 104 I thought you were going to say more than you have.

Speaker 28 I'm going to list like your money goes to the number one pick.

Speaker 45 That too.

Speaker 13 In case of a death,

Speaker 51 give all my money to the number one pick.

Speaker 138 Okay, good job.

Speaker 135 Overly direct takes.

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Speaker 111 Hank, get us going.

Speaker 78 Speaking of cash,

Speaker 78 Shohei.

Speaker 78 He signed with the Dodgers 10 years, 700 mil.

Speaker 78 He deferred. Posted about it on Instagram, which I appreciate.
He said, sorry it took so long.

Speaker 14 The funniest post ever. It was.

Speaker 78 And it was a picture of, he just googled

Speaker 78 Dodgers and

Speaker 78 probably screenshotted it.

Speaker 43 Low red.

Speaker 78 Downloaded it, just screenshotted the first picture. So it was in like 280p

Speaker 78 celebrating the biggest contract in sports history, baseball history.

Speaker 84 Yeah. It might be Carol.

Speaker 28 He doesn't want to get sued.

Speaker 67 It's the biggest contract. I think I saw a stat.

Speaker 8 He's going to make a million dollars every 20 innings.

Speaker 28 Yeah, it's a pretty nice contract for him. I do appreciate the fact that he apologized for making us wait so long.

Speaker 51 Yeah, that was nice.

Speaker 45 Very, very polite.

Speaker 128 We also had over the weekend a very funny thing that happened when John Morrissey, who's a writer for MLB Network, had reported that Shohei was on a flight to Toronto from Anaheim.

Speaker 8 It actually turned out to be Mr.

Speaker 128 Wonderful.

Speaker 140 No, it was Robert Herkovich from Shark Tank.

Speaker 117 And so everyone all day was like, Shohei's going to Toronto, Shohei's going to Toronto.

Speaker 122 It was pretty much the best thing that happened to the Blue Jays since Joe Carter.

Speaker 108 And then John Morris had to tweet an apology saying, today I posted reporting that included inaccurate information that Shohei Otani was traveling to Toronto.

Speaker 8 I regret the mistake and apologize to baseball fans everywhere.

Speaker 1 I'm deeply sorry for letting you down.

Speaker 120 I did not accept his apology.

Speaker 28 No, I mean, the people of Toronto should not accept that. No,

Speaker 28 you had one day where you thought that the next 10 years of your life were going to be awesome. That's

Speaker 130 in a row that the biggest free agent signing at Winter Meetings has been misreported.

Speaker 51 Last year, Arson Judge

Speaker 130 Arson Judge going to the Giants from John Heyman. And now this year.

Speaker 101 Yeah, Shohei, though, man, $700 million.

Speaker 49 And I just want to say one thing about, you know,

Speaker 67 I consider myself one of the teams that came second place. A lot of teams came second place in the Shohei sweepstakes.

Speaker 8 I was hoping the Cubs were going to find a way to sign them.

Speaker 131 I don't think they ever got to that number.

Speaker 2 The one thing I don't like is when everyone's like, that's a fucking overpay.

Speaker 119 He's injured.

Speaker 58 It's like, if the roles were reversed, you would be so over the moon about this.

Speaker 19 And yes, every contract, free agent contract in MLB history is an overpay because you're paying for past accomplishments.

Speaker 122 And who cares?

Speaker 1 There's no salary cap.

Speaker 49 It's not your money. Right.

Speaker 28 It's a very rich person's money. It's the one sport.

Speaker 28 And also with this contract in particular, they're not just paying for Shohei. They're paying for all the marketing that goes along with Shohei.
Yes.

Speaker 28 All the merch that they're going to sell with Shohei on it.

Speaker 28 It's an investment in a person in a business sense.

Speaker 95 Yeah, that's why I thought it made sense for the Cubs to try to get him.

Speaker 5 um, it, but the one sport that you really like can't do the overpay is baseball because there's no salary cap.

Speaker 80 What do you do? Luxury tax?

Speaker 82 Okay, who cares?

Speaker 28 Yeah, they're just upset that their owner has less money. Right.
It's like that's what you're mad about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to be awesome.

Speaker 123 And you know what?

Speaker 1 When he's like 37 years old, making $70 million a year, it probably won't be a very good contract, just like every baseball contract ever.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 96 So Bryce Harper, Aaron Judge, all these guys, Mike Trout, like these contracts will not go well at the end of the deal.

Speaker 103 That's not where you're paying for.

Speaker 42 You're paying for the prime of their career.

Speaker 28 Yeah, so there was a rumor that Shohei Otani's dog's name was going to give away a clue as to where he was going to sign. I don't think we know what his dog's name is yet.
No,

Speaker 119 they did a whole feature, and he wouldn't reveal his dog's name.

Speaker 107 He won't reveal it.

Speaker 79 Apparently.

Speaker 20 Oh, what if it's Tommy?

Speaker 28 It might be Tommy. Yeah.
Lasorda. Lasorda.
Tommy Lasorda. It might be Magic.
Might be Magic. Magic the Dog.

Speaker 28 There was a lot of speculation about what his dog's name was, and he said that if any team, one of the things was the teams cannot leak to the press what his dog's name is.

Speaker 28 So not just like the meetings he was going to, where he said that he would look upon those disfavorably.

Speaker 28 If it leaked out, anybody that leaked out his dog's name was always going to be taken off the list. So great job, everybody, keeping his name, the dog's name off your lips.

Speaker 24 Yeah, good job by Shohei. $700 million.

Speaker 26 Just insane, insane amount of money.

Speaker 89 Good for him.

Speaker 28 $700 million is so much fucking money. It's so much money.

Speaker 126 God,

Speaker 121 He's worth it.

Speaker 98 And he's going to, and after taxes, it's like 20 million in California.

Speaker 23 Have you heard of that? Have you read about that?

Speaker 20 Have you heard that joke?

Speaker 101 Man, imagine doing that in California.

Speaker 106 Shout out to the journalists who are on the Shohei Otani beat from Japan, not having to move to Toronto.

Speaker 61 I love Toronto, beautiful city, but I think they probably were like, wait.

Speaker 28 We have to go to Toronto? It's also, I wouldn't put it past Shohei to be like, you know what?

Speaker 28 I don't want to inconvenience all the reporters that are over here from Japan that have gotten to know Los Angeles so much. I'd like it if they could stay local too.

Speaker 39 And Skip Bayless said that now LeBron is the second star in that city.

Speaker 8 He takes a back seat to Shohei because Shohei moved from Anaheim to L.A.

Speaker 28 I love that if you put it. I don't think he even moved.
If you put a Rorschach test in front of Skip Bayless, no matter what the ink blot is, he's like LeBron.

Speaker 42 Yeah, LeBron.

Speaker 72 Bron. How can I make this vote look?

Speaker 69 That's LeBron.

Speaker 15 All right, your who's back, PFT.

Speaker 28 My who's back of the week is Jaden Daniels. Yes.

Speaker 7 We did it. Get it.

Speaker 28 Congratulations. Jaden Daniels is is your Heisman Trophy winner.
There was never really a secondary choice as far as I saw things. We're unbiased.
We look at the tape. We look at the stats.

Speaker 28 He had a historical season. Actually, no, I'm going to walk that back for a second.
I think Marvin Harrison Jr. would have been very deserving of this award.

Speaker 28 And I want to say that because I realized people might have thought that we've been slighting Marvin Harrison Jr. in the past.

Speaker 28 In case Marvin Harrison Sr. is listening to this show, we have nothing but respect for Marvin Harrison Jr.
We love Marvin Harrison Jr.

Speaker 28 And also, you don't get enough credit as a wide receiver and you're a great human being, great person. You're the best Marvin Harrison Sr.
Don't hold that against us.

Speaker 28 But the point is, Jaden Daniels won. He deserved to win.

Speaker 80 And there was a lot of people complaining because they're like, oh,

Speaker 8 his numbers against FCS teams is what made it good.

Speaker 30 I actually saw a tweet last night.

Speaker 1 Against Power 5 teams, Jaden Daniels leads the nation in...

Speaker 66 Power passer rating, yards per attempt, total yards per game, total yards,

Speaker 1 yards per play, QB rush yards, plays at 20-plus yards, big time throw percentage, offensive grade.

Speaker 28 Big time throw percentage, that sounds important.

Speaker 117 There was one guy I responded to.

Speaker 27 I don't know if you guys saw, he was saying, oh, he just had, if it wasn't for the Georgia State game, he would have finished fourth in Heisman voting.

Speaker 8 And this was my response to this guy.

Speaker 28 Oh, you mean when he had eight touchdowns against Georgia State?

Speaker 64 Why don't you go cry about it, buddy?

Speaker 40 And I farted in his face. Good.

Speaker 56 So fuck everyone who didn't think.

Speaker 85 The only argument I would understand is that if you want to do the, like, if you tell the story of college football of this season, Michael Pennix was the more impactful because Washington being undefeated and all that.

Speaker 26 But numbers-wise, yeah, Jaden Daniels was out of this world good.

Speaker 28 Also, the jacket Pennix was wearing was awesome. Yes, the entire suit.

Speaker 58 Oh, his whole family was, I graded them best dress family.

Speaker 28 The entire suit that he was wearing

Speaker 28 was like velvet velour, and he had all of his teammates' names printed on the inside of his jacket. That to me, when I saw that, I thought to myself, like, fuck, he's going to win the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 28 And I wouldn't have been that mad about it because he seems like it's a great story, and he seems like a nice guy. But they made the right call, they made the right call.

Speaker 39 It was also very funny when Bonix went up, and it was like Bonix with his parents and his wife.

Speaker 101 I was like, oh, yeah, Bonix is very old.

Speaker 142 Yep.

Speaker 23 He's played a lot of college football. Yep.

Speaker 11 That's right.

Speaker 51 All right.

Speaker 67 My who's back of the week is the Los Angeles Lakers raising another banner.

Speaker 28 Congratulations.

Speaker 66 The in-season tournament concluded with the Lakers beating the Pacers in Vegas.

Speaker 6 A couple thoughts from that game.

Speaker 1 So I do think the in-season tournament was fun.

Speaker 127 It was something different that got you excited about NBA in a time when NBA is competing against the NFL and college football.

Speaker 122 It's a bloodbath. So for them to try something new, I'm all for.

Speaker 80 The other thing

Speaker 8 was that it's always fun whenever he decides he wants to do it, but Anthony Davis just being like, oh, tonight I'm going to be the best player in the entire world.

Speaker 28 He was dominant in that first.

Speaker 5 He had 41,

Speaker 111 20, and 5,

Speaker 88 and he was like,

Speaker 18 the Pacers' defense or offense couldn't do anything because he was just everywhere on defense.

Speaker 102 It was an insane performance from Anthony Davis.

Speaker 114 He is, when he's at his peak, he is,

Speaker 27 yeah, Jokic and Giannis, but like he's up there.

Speaker 53 When he wants to be like, I'm going to do everything offense and defense, he's one of the best players, top three players in the NBA.

Speaker 28 Also, credit to the NBA for timing this exactly perfectly. Yeah.
What a great day to play.

Speaker 20 Right after the Heisman.

Speaker 28 Have it after the Heisman, have it be the only sport that we're paying attention to at that time.

Speaker 28 Like, if this is baseball, trying to figure out an off-season or in-season tournament, they would have it at the, they'd probably have it like on Memorial Day Friday. Yeah.

Speaker 28 And that would be the conclusion of the tournament. But this was, it was a perfect time.
We're all looking for something to watch. The courts did grow on me a little bit.

Speaker 42 A little bit.

Speaker 28 And the lighting. It was mostly the lighting.
Yeah.

Speaker 112 The lighting felt different.

Speaker 125 And LeBron popping champagne was kind of funny. Yeah.

Speaker 88 It's like, it's early December.

Speaker 115 Also, just a recommendation, the 30 for 30 they did on the 1997 Heisman race was awesome.

Speaker 125 I watched that right after the Heisman.

Speaker 72 Then I watched the second half of the M.

Speaker 1 So that really just shows you how much football just dominates.

Speaker 58 We just wanted to.

Speaker 8 Then I was like, oh, this is just a time machine to 1997 college football. Yeah, I could watch the second half of the in-season tournament later.

Speaker 28 Oh, I'll watch a recap of like the 2007 college football season anytime it's on. Yeah.

Speaker 104 Whenever the algorithm just pops it up i surrender okay you've got my attention also shout out army navy maybe the most thrilling over that's ever been hit in the history of gambling i'll remember that for the rest of my life it was safety to hit over 27 and a half i had army and so that was big it was i mean just incredible like those are Those are the ones that you remember on your deathbed.

Speaker 94 People are like, oh, you're not going to remember these games.

Speaker 27 No, I will remember the Army Navy over in 2023 with a safety out of the back of the end zone.

Speaker 9 I was screaming for it as soon as they got the ball.

Speaker 25 It was a correct play. Yeah.
It was a correct play.

Speaker 13 You got to go for the safety.

Speaker 83 Oh. Take this.

Speaker 19 The minute Navy got stopped, my brain immediately flipped over.

Speaker 80 I was like, wait, there's three seconds.

Speaker 82 They have to take a safety.

Speaker 61 They have to take a safety.

Speaker 51 So yeah, that was awesome.

Speaker 73 It was a good Saturday.

Speaker 111 That and going right into Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, finish us off.

Speaker 130 My who's back of the week is pooping in closets at stadiums. Yes.
Because

Speaker 130 a Bears fan did just that.

Speaker 66 Today at Soldier Fields.

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 28 When you got to go, you got to go.

Speaker 120 Real men of genius. Yeah.

Speaker 130 Speaking of, I got to go.

Speaker 51 Oh, okay.

Speaker 112 Shout out dinner. All right.

Speaker 51 What order dinner? Just closet.

Speaker 42 What number do you want, Jason?

Speaker 119 Shout out to Dr.

Speaker 33 18.

Speaker 33 Okay.

Speaker 137 Good show, boys.

Speaker 95 Max, any last words about you?

Speaker 101 You really don't like the Cowboys, Max.

Speaker 10 I don't like Hank.

Speaker 20 I like this all. This is, I told you.

Speaker 100 Everything we just went through?

Speaker 104 It's rare that we're not in the ire of Max because usually we're the ones pushing the troll, but Hank went full Cowboy.

Speaker 78 You can never take away what we went through last week, Max.

Speaker 91 Where'd you go last week?

Speaker 136 Oh, the 24 hours.

Speaker 108 Well, no, I mean, it was 23 hours, and also you slept while Max stayed up.

Speaker 132 It was fun times.

Speaker 78 It was fun. I had a blast.

Speaker 28 I love Max. How late did you guys sleep in on Friday?

Speaker 47 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 78 I had to do the fucking dozen first thing in the morning.

Speaker 28 That's mean by Jeff.

Speaker 78 Yeah, my brain was...

Speaker 78 Not that it's ever firing, but it was blank.

Speaker 78 Then I went back to sleep.

Speaker 78 So then I woke up at like 1 or 2.

Speaker 137 When did you sleep till Max?

Speaker 9 I slept till like 11 and then I made breakfast and then fell back asleep at like noon until 4.45.

Speaker 28 I love that.

Speaker 134 I love it.

Speaker 13 It must have felt so good.

Speaker 2 It was...

Speaker 127 Waking up?

Speaker 9 No, it's still.

Speaker 102 Still a little off.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 9 And I've also, my sleep schedule is fucked.

Speaker 9 I slept till noon both the past two days.

Speaker 11 So tomorrow could be an issue.

Speaker 126 I'm so jealous of that.

Speaker 28 What about you, memes?

Speaker 124 Slept till 10,

Speaker 124 woke up, did some work stuff, went right back to bed, then woke up at like 3, did some more work stuff, then went back to bed till the next day.

Speaker 96 What time did you go back to bed on Friday?

Speaker 124 So it was around like five, and I just slept through.

Speaker 35 That's amazing.

Speaker 60 You time-traveled. Yeah,

Speaker 82 that's amazing. I've been having a bad day, Javu, too.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 90 Just not good.

Speaker 33 All right.

Speaker 6 We got Stav on Wednesday.

Speaker 118 Stop in the studio.

Speaker 81 All right.

Speaker 101 Numbers.

Speaker 77 40.

Speaker 141 71.

Speaker 132 20.

Speaker 136 What did you say?

Speaker 90 3.

Speaker 129 99. No, he already picked 18.

Speaker 47 Oh, Jake took it? Yeah, he took it.

Speaker 28 Damn it. All right.

Speaker 132 20.

Speaker 47 What was that? Who's laughing?

Speaker 134 Pug says Pug after every lug.

Speaker 90 99. Pug.

Speaker 123 Shane, what are you?

Speaker 132 10.

Speaker 46 81. No, wait.
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 28 Wait, is that 18? No.

Speaker 38 I think it's 81. We sure? 81.
Yeah.

Speaker 51 How do we know?

Speaker 51 Yeah, that's what you know.

Speaker 43 That is 81.

Speaker 79 Yep.

Speaker 56 Yeah, because the bottom.

Speaker 34 The bottom line.

Speaker 126 You should tell JP that.

Speaker 34 Has he already got anything?

Speaker 34 He did, yeah.

Speaker 28 That sucked. Love you guys.

Speaker 28 anyway.

Speaker 28 Days are not days of fun. Shy away,

Speaker 28 I'm coming to be loved.

Speaker 28 I'm coming to be loved.

Speaker 28 Don't be

Speaker 28 the old.

Speaker 28 I need

Speaker 28 one.

Speaker 28 You drown me.

Speaker 28 Needless to say,

Speaker 28 I'm all set in spite. Still a little way.

Speaker 28 The learning plant is okay. Say after me,

Speaker 32 it's for better to be safe than sorry. It's for better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 145 It's for better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 64 Take on me,

Speaker 64 take

Speaker 64 me up.

Speaker 64 I

Speaker 64 beg on

Speaker 64 me.

Speaker 64 Things that you say,

Speaker 64 just away but

Speaker 64 it's not to remember. shine away.

Speaker 64 They'll all be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 83 Coming for you anyway, they'll all be coming for you anyway. Take on

Speaker 83 me,

Speaker 83 take

Speaker 83 me up.

Speaker 83 I think

Speaker 83 all

Speaker 83 in our dreams.