Rob Gronkowski, Bart Scott, Week 14 Picks And Preview + Recap Of The 24 Hour Stream

Rob Gronkowski, Bart Scott, Week 14 Picks And Preview + Recap Of The 24 Hour Stream

December 08, 2023 2h 56m Explicit

The Patriots are back and the Steelers are out of the playoffs. Jon Rahm to the LIV and Soto is a Yankee. We talk a little NBA Tournament (00:00:00-00:14:21). Week 14 Picks and Preview and the wild Sean McDermott revelation about 9/11 is discussed (00:14:21-01:32:27). Rob Gronkowski joins the show to talk about the LA Bowl, does he miss football, favorite memories, having kids and more (01:32:27-02:06:41). Bart Scott joins the show to talk hot takes, what teams impress him this year, the Butt Fumble, beefs and more (02:06:41-02:37:33). We finish with a recap of the 24 hour stream from Max and Hank (02:37:33-02:54:52).


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On today's part in my take week 14 picks and preview we have a twofer for the

people Rob Gronkowski, Bart Scott. Great combo.
We've got an all-time Patriot and an all-time Patriot hater. Can't wait.
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Welcome to Pardon My Take. Today is Friday, Decembercember 8th and the patriots are back fully but well i'd say i would actually say it's the steelers the steelers have done so the steelers have lost back-to-back games at home to the cardinals and the patriots which i just want to say my guy mitch i know there's probably some Steeler fans that are upset at him right now but in his afterlife he helps out the Bears because the Bears now have a stranglehold on that first pick he lost to the Cardinals and the Patriots like you said in back-to-back weeks though they're now second and third in the picks with three wins and the Panthers have won but Hank the Patriots won a won a game.
Bailey Zappi looked good. In the first half, he looked real good.
Really good. Hank, you don't want to win that game.
Yeah, that was a bad game to win because it's like, do the Panthers have two more wins than them? I don't think so. Probably not.
Hank is also just exhausted and delirious, which I don't blame him for at all. You deserve to be every bit of exhausted and delirious.

But that game probably didn't do a whole lot to wake you up.

It was fun in the first half scoring touchdowns.

Like, oh, this is a fun team to root for.

But I obviously am a big fan of Mitch.

I wanted the Patriots to lose.

So I was all in on like a second half Steelers comeback.

Steelers lose.

Patriots look good.

But we still lose.

And so that was worst case scenario. There was one moment at the end of the second half.
The Steelers would drive with the ball. I think it was fourth and three, right? Fourth and three? Yeah, it was fourth and three.
Fourth and three. And Mike Tomlin did the thing I hate.
No, that was actually a fourth and one. Yeah, that was fourth and one at that time.
It was fourth and one. Tomlin did the thing I hate the most from a coach.

He took a think-it-over timeout.

I hate the think-it-over timeout.

You should have already thought it over.

That's what the week's for.

That's what preparing's for.

And then you take a timeout, talk it over, see what you like,

and then send your guys out there, run a play.

They got a first down, which was great.

And then they had the fourth and three.

And on that fourth and three, they thought that they had an encroachment against the defense. Which they should have.
Which they should have. Instead, they called a false start on the center for moving his head up slowly.
And it was such a, like, the encroachment was so obvious. We said in the moment, we're like, that is the call down to the field to tank.
Yes. Like, the Patriots realized well in the first half that was fun we got to lose this game and for a second tomlin and belichick had a standoff and you remember when when belichick and variable had that standoff where they deleted time yeah that playoff game yeah it felt like that except the saddest version of that where each coach was saying no no we committed the penalty yeah no no we committed but then they they end up getting the ball back Mitch didn't really do much with it I don't understand the the go route on fourth and two at the end of the game uh I mean Will was sitting with us and he said that you know that's just kind of a if you can see one-on-one on the outside press coverage yeah I guess go for it but yeah the Steelers are bad and I'm listen I don't think the steelers are a playoff team they shouldn't be up there are now officially outside of the playoffs which is good for football like we love we love pittsburgh we love the people of pittsburgh we love steelers fans but i think steelers fans agree like this isn't a playoff team and it's probably for the better if yeah they get a better draft pick and maybe reassess.
I was going to say it's good for the Steelers that they lost this game. Right.
Because if you end up having a winning record getting into the playoffs and then you go one and done with a team that never really had a chance to do anything in the playoffs. Correct.
Why? Because you get one more week of being like we're still – I guess if you're a loser franchise like for me – Oh, I would love one more week. I would love to get my ass kicked in kicked in the wild card round.
That's like my dream. But Steelers fans, that's beneath you to think that way.
They need a reset. Jersey Jerry was talking that they should trade T.J.
Watt, try to get a lot for him. He was talking like it was like a dog, like a city dog, that needs like when you get a cattle dog.
You're like, yeah, this dog should be out in the wilderness, out at a farm. It's not an apartment dog.
It's just going to sit around and gnaw its paws raw. Right.
It's going to drive itself crazy. Send it to a farm.
Yeah, give this dog some space. But yeah, Hank, congrats.
You won a game. Thanks.
I'm very happy you won. That makes one of us.
Yeah. But Bailey looked good in the first half.
At first pick. Yeah.
Ooh, boy. I swear Al Michaels was just trying his hardest to get Mitch to throw a pick six.
Yeah, he was saying. You know, he's never done this.
He's never done a pick six, which it surprises me every time I hear it. Wait, he hasn't? Mitch Trubisky has never thrown a pick six, big cat.
Oh. Fun fact.
I feel like I've definitely envisioned him throwing a lot of them, but no, he has not. Also, Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard.
And the Kelseys are brothers. I have to check that because PFT, no offense, but I don't know if you're trying to get us, but the Jokic stat was just wrong.
No, he leads. Are you talking about per game? Yeah.
I'm talking about no total. Oh.
I said total rebound. Oh, I thought you meant he led the league averaging.
Yeah. I had a lot of people tweeting me.
No. And I told someone that stat and they're like, no.
And I was like, wait, what? No, it's total. Total.
Yeah. Total.
Yeah, that's a weird way. No one cares about total.
No one cares. That's a weird way to.
I care about total. That's just who's played the most games.
I'm not into this load management stuff. Best ability is availability.
Ah, I got it. Okay.
That's funny. If you had asked me, like, life on the line, has Mitch thrown a pick six? I'd be like, yeah, for sure.
But he just has not. Never has.
Never has. But yeah, that was a better game than we expected.
Yeah, it was. It was fun.
It was fun. Yeah.
It's a better game than we expected. I was fully prepared.
I mean, overhitting the first half. I thought it was going to be.
Everyone was shitting on the game beforehand. Yeah, a game that's so bad that it's good, but instead it was just so good that it was not bad.
Yeah. Well, we can get to it with the 24-hour stream, but there was a portion where we were taking callers that were part of the Golden Mug giveaway, and everyone was asking about the game, and I was like, Patriots over, Patriots over, Patri i just like the stream ended i didn't have time didn't put it in and it obviously but you made some people some money everyone yeah everyone else that feels good that's almost better than winning sure it's definitely no it's worse it's way worse it's so much worse like i was out of it i came over the patriots scored and they just marched down scored down, scored again.
I was like, oh. This is way over and Patriots are going to win.
Great. Also, congrats to LeBron James.
Yeah. You're in the finals of the in-season tournament.
I'll just give the floor to Skip Bayless on this take. He said, I give LeBron this.
He did keep his team together long enough to outlast everyone and win a bubble championship that deserved a cubic zirconia ring and now he has won a cute little gimmicky November-December tournament in its first year. Impressive.
He hasn't won one yet. He hasn't won it yet.
He hasn't won one yet. It was Halbert.
It was, yeah, I mean, the in-season tournament has been very fun. It is a win for Adam Silver because it's games that no one would care about and now we care about them, right? Like, I watched them.
I was like, this is fun. What do you think LeBron's going to do with the money? He hasn't won yet.
No, but I'm saying if he won, if he gets, what, half mil? Yeah, here's the thing. They get 100K each.
Two, three, four. No, I think they get more than that.
Half a mil? I think they get more than 100K, yeah. No, they get 500K.
Yeah, it's enough to make you care about it. The Pacers have seven guys that are making less than $6 million.
Yeah, so it means- This money means something for them. But it also means a lot to LeBron if he can win this and then make a big show about where he gives the money.
Yeah. Yeah, he'll definitely give the money away.
I did see one mean tweet that was like, LeBron's trying to do the one thing that MJ never did, leave Las Vegas with $500,000.

It's kind of funny.

I thought you were going to say, yeah, MJ never won a midseason tournament.

Kareem never won one.

But, yeah, that's been fun.

And then Juan Soto, Yankee.

Yankees are going to just try to – I like this.

The Yankees just keep trying to be like, we're going to hit the most home runs.

Well, Juan Soto, in that short porch environment,

he's going to hit some fucking ding-dongs. Yeah, he is.
But pitching still matters. Yeah.
We'll just out-hit everybody. Yeah, and then Jon Rahm to the live, which okay.
Who do you think is going to get more money? Jon Rahm to the live or Shohei Otani, who's apparently commanding like $600 million. I know.
Which is insane. But Jon Rahm, $450 million?

I still don't understand.

Like, they merged, but they're not.

Yeah, I guess you can still jump leagues.

Okay.

Then smart for Jon Rahm because he gets to play in everything, right?

He gets to play fewer rounds of golf, make like 10 times.

$450 million guaranteed.

Make like 10 times or more money.

And then, yeah, just show up when he wants to. And he gets to wear shorts.
He wear shorts he doesn't have the swamp ass shorts is great that might have been the big sticking point shorts like can you explain the shorts thing to me one more time why is it why do they have to wear pants in golf yeah i don't know i don't get a gentleman's game but yeah john rom just sitting at the negotiating table like listen the 450 i don't care 450 million but just just tell me walk me through this shorts thing yeah just explain Just explain it like I'm five years old. I can wear shorts? There's going to be another golf league.
Maybe Qatar can get in on this, have the Amir get some money out there. Just as much money as Liv, you get to wear shorts also, and you get a cart.
And you can wear tank tops. And, yeah.
Just gun show. I like that.
Yeah. Would be sick to watch that show.
I just thought of something, guys. Oh, no.
What are you talking about? Jake's thought of the week. Yeah.
So, earlier this week, didn't LeBron. Max is asleep.
Didn't LeBron say, didn't he tell his teammates he's going to miss a game if it's on the same date as Bronny? Bronny, I think, is playing on Saturday against Long Beach State. The NBA end-season tournament championship in Las Vegas is Saturday.
This is a dilemma. Well, he could probably fly.
I think he'll probably get a private play. They're both Saturday.
I don't know what the timing is. Bronny will get the game time changed.
Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. What?

It says it's Sunday.

Oh.

Long Beach State.

But it's an interesting thought experiment.

I just Googled it.

It says Sunday.

Let's just insult.

I see Saturday.

Let's just berate LeBron for the fact that he would have missed that game.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why he's not a champion.

Is it Sunday or Saturday?

I'm looking.

I see one tweet that says Saturday, but it's not. Oh, I'm looking at Google, not tweets.
Sunday. It says Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.
So no problem for Bronny. He probably got it moved.
Sunday. Yeah.
I had it, but I didn't. No, you did not have it.
I did exactly what they told me not to do in journalism school.

Read a tweet.

Be first.

Yeah.

Read a tweet.

Instead of be right.

Don't ever read a tweet.

Yeah.

That's always a bad thing.

That's on me.

You should actually never write a tweet either.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like across the board for everyone.

Yeah.

All right.

So, yeah, I'm rooting for the Pacers, obviously.

I mean, 500,000.

What did I say?

Seven guys?

Under six? Live like a king in Indiana. Also, winning $500,000 in Vegas has got to rule.
Yeah. I would not leave.
I'd leave with less money than what I want. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. I'd put it all on red.
Charles Barkley definitely would. Yeah, for sure.
I mean, you'd just be like, well, we would have. It doesn't matter.
Yeah. It's not real.
I'm rich. Yeah.
Well, except I'm rich. Except I'm not because I make a player who makes $2 million a year.
Buddy Heald should have to do it. Yeah.
Yeah, that's fair. Buddy Heald should have to do it.
I think Bruce Brown got paid a lot. Bruce Brown, yeah, makes $22 million a year.
So, yeah, the three top guys, Buddy Heald, Miles Turner, and Bruce Brown, all make over $19 million a year. they all should have to put it all on red for the team and if yeah if it hits you split it up yeah yeah that's that's or maybe they put it on double zero and then they split that'd be huge that would be awesome uh okay let's get to our uh kick to ourselves again if you're uh not a youtube watcher this is one you want to watch on youtube because we have Max and Hank in the lower third keeping up a balloon for our picks and preview.
And then we have Gronk and Bart Scott. Okay, picks and preview time.
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Okay. So we're going to do our picks and preview for week 14.
But if you are listening to the podcast right now and you want to watch it, I would tell you to go watch it right now. Because what is going on if you miss the 24-hour stream? Max and Hank, while we tape this on Thursday afternoon, are in hour 18 of the stream.

And what we have told them is that while we're taping part of my take, this is going to be about an hour here.

They have to try to keep the balloon that we gave them up the entire time.

If they can do that, they get out an hour early.

So if you're watching the YouTube right now of the part of my take episode, we're going to put them in the bottom corner for the section of this show of them trying to keep this balloon up. Shout out everyone who watched the stream, who rode with them.
Max MVP, Hank. Well, Hank is there too.
Hank's there too. Max has been great.
Max has been delightful. I tuned in a couple of times in the middle of the night.
I would wake up, check my phone. Max just talking to the chat, talking talking to himself just keeping the people entertained uh this morning when frank the tank went on it dawned on me that we've kind of we recreated the stanford prison experiment yeah and we're the wardens and they're the prisoners i don't think that we've done anything over the line i think that most of the activities that we've given them have been engaging entertaining stimulating even the frank the tank video that was hard yes that was tough so we will also uh after we're going to tape in segments today so fire fest we will have hank and max on so you can keep listening you can hear their their recap of everything but max and hank it starts now keep it up for the next 45 minutes to an hour while we do the weekend preview.
Ready, set, go. Okay, they're going.
There was a part of me that thought Hank was going to just hit it into the ground. All right, Shane, you want to pull us down and we'll get back into it? They don't have to just alternate the entire time.
This is so funny. It's actually kind of soothing watching this.
Can I just turn the logo on on the TV quick? Yes. The balloon bouncing around is kind of like we're watching the DVD logo thing on the screensaver.
It's kind of nice. Also, shout out to Max.
Built us a dresser for the studio that we're going to be adding. Did a really good job with that.

Looks awesome.

Memes was low-key integral to the entire stream.

Memes stayed up all night last night interacting with them.

The chat.

Memes is a beast.

Okay.

PFT.

Week 14.

I know you hate when I do this, but I have to do it.

We're not going to do it.

Week 14 is so late.

You know what it is?

It's not that late. It's because you're forgetting about super wild card weekend that's bonus football then we get more playoff football then we get the pro bowl then we get the super bowl so no that's not what i was gonna say what i was gonna say was uh when college football ends it always is like wait what what how is how is college football over right now yeah college football season is way too short.
And then we have bowl games, but yeah, it does like week 14. It just dawned on me that, listen, our job gets a little easier because I think we showed it on last Sunday's show.
There's some games that we don't really have to talk about that don't mean shit. Yeah.
But we will preview every game for Sunday. We have two crown jewels.
Two crown jewels. If you have two crown jewels, you don't have one.
So we have to list one crown jewel. Okay.
There can be a crown jewel, then there can be like, I don't know, a scepter. A scepter.
The royal scepter. Okay, so the crown jewels come later.
Let's start with the noon 1 o'clock slate, and we have some great games in that slate as well. at Ravens yeah is where we're going to start I saw that there was a report that Lamar Jackson might be dealing with his annual diarrhea because he wasn't at practice today it's about that time of year yeah it does feel like this is right around the time of year where he's just going to randomly miss practice for an entire week like what's going on with Lamar Jackson what's going on with his ass that's what we all need to know.
I like the Rams, actually, to cover on this. I think the Rams are sneaky.
They've got enough talent. This is a Rams for real game.
Yeah. Are you for real, Rams? Well, I think even if they lose by three, they could be considered semi for real.
I would say if they cover. Yeah.
Because it's seven and a half. So if they lose by seven, I'm going to say the Rams possibly still for real at that point.
We forget the Colts beat Baltimore in Baltimore this year. Yeah.
It can be done. Kyron Williams has been awesome for the Rams.
He is like the Todd Gurley replacement. You know, that's McVay's offense.
You need the running game. And I think that you've seen moments where the Rams have not looked great.
He was out for a whole month. Now they're back playing some good ball.
I was thinking about this game because I agree with you that I lean Rams, even though it's a bye week for the Ravens. They're off a bye week, and they also have the one seed very much in focus with everyone else losing.
But I was thinking about it because Mark Andrews is out, and I went back and I looked at the stats. One, I don't give Mark Andrews credit enough.
I always think of Mark Andrews as an injury guy. He's not.
Yeah. He's not an injury guy.
He's actually not missed that many games. Yeah.
But Mark Andrews, when he has been out, he's been out four times when Lamar Jackson's also playing. So because there was obviously Lamar Jackson missed the end of last year.
Lamar Jackson's stats in the last four times that they have played without Mark Andrews. You ready for these? 12 for 17, 107 yards.
12 for 22, 130 yards. 17 for 23, 169 yards.
18 for 32, 177 yards. Yeah.
Not eclipsed 200 yards. The only thing that you could say in counter to this is they have way better wide receivers this year than they have had in the past when it was just Mark Andrews.
But that makes me nervous about the Ravens. Mark Andrews is a big part of their offense.
No, the Ravens system has been to just not ever have a wide receiver. Ever.
Now they have them. They went out and they got several wide receivers.
So that's going to make a difference. But that's what I was saying earlier this year was I feel like Mark Andrews is to the Ravens what Travis Kelsey is to the Chiefs.
Yeah. He's not as good as Travis Kelsey.
He's still very, very good. He's baby Kelsey.
One of the best in the league. Is he older than Kelsey, though? No.
I feel like Mark Andrews is a sneaky young guy. Is he? Sneaky very young.
It feels like he's been on the Ravens for a while. Guess an age.
I'll tell you. All right.
Well, shit, now I'm going against myself because I know what Travis Kelsey is.

What did you think?

I'm just going to guess 31.

He's 28.

Really?

Yeah.

He just turned 28.

Same age as Randall Cobb?

Randall Cobb is 27.

Yeah, 26, I thought.

Yeah.

No, Mark Andrews, I think he means as much the Ravens as Travis Kelsey means the Chiefs.

Like, the offense doesn't really work without him. But also, you have to take into account this year, they've got, say, Flowers, who's nasty.
Odell Beckham, who looks way better. Yeah.
Way better than I thought he would. Ravens fans can do, and this is a logic jump that all fan bases do, but I would do it if I were a Ravens fan.
I would say, well, maybe this is actually good. If Mark Andrews can come back for the playoffs, now Lamar has to get on an even better page with his wide receivers.

All systems go come January.

This actually helped the Ravens.

He's got to learn how to play with everybody

because he's not used to having those guys.

It's something that we all have to figure out a way to do.

When you have a key player go down,

you have to figure out a way like,

actually, you don't know this team.

This was actually a blessing in disguise.

Because they get Mark Andrews back, and then it's like free agent you know what then it's hyper drive yeah so i i agree with you i kind of lean the rams here it might be a backdoor cover but i think if they get in seven if they if they lose by a touchdown i'm gonna take the ram seriously yeah yeah all right nerd nugget for this game hello guys hey hey jake how's it going hello guy uh under john harbaugh the ravens are 12 and 3 in games immediately following the bye which is the fewest losses in the league over the last 15 years and those games right after the bye coach harbaugh took over in 2008 they're allowing just 16 points per game first in the league okay that makes me nervous yeah a little bit nervous a little bit nervous about that one uh i need to know what ronnie from where's ronnie from ronnie from dundalk yeah uh stavi i want to know what his take on this game is yeah maybe we should have him on the show i think we're gonna have him on the show soon sometimes uh all right next game up colts at bangles the bangles can the bangles make the playoffs? Can we do the Bengals?

Jake Browning equals Nick Foles?

You know some Bengals fans might be thinking it.

Now the Eagles, the year that Nick Foles won the Super Bowl,

I think their record was way better when Carson Wentz got hurt.

I think they were the one seed.

He was probably going to be the MVP when he got hurt.

I think there was something like 12-4, somewhere around there.

But in the games since Joe Burrow has gotten super healthy, he's played like the MVP. True.
I don't know. If I were a Bengals fan, this is what I'd be telling myself.
I think it's heresy to compare Carson Wentz to Joe Burrow. Yeah, and also maybe Jake Browning to Nick Foles.
He's double heresy. They were 13-3 that year.
13-3, So a little different because the Bengals still have to make the playoffs. But if you're a Bengals fan, that Monday night win got you at least another week of rooting for a team that is in contention, which is beautiful.
That's nice. Like if you win this game, now you actually are thinking maybe you will go to the playoffs.
It's not just that you're in the hunt. You're in the thick of it.
You're in the big time thick. You're in the deep shit if you're the Colts.
Colts are also 5-1 on the road this year. So don't forget that.
Gardner Minshew looked pretty good last week. Also, their special teams was awesome last week.
And they got a coach fired. Their special teams essentially scored 10 points for them.
Yeah, it was so good on your punt blocking unit that you got another special teams coach fired. And a guy injured.
Yeah, really injured. I think the Colts are going to have 10 wins this year.
You think Sean Payton ever did a bounty on a punter? I'm sure. Bounty on everybody.
Yeah. Who was their punter? Was that Morstead back then? Yeah.
Or was it too early for him? I bet you Greg Williams, yeah, was like punter. Just anyone.
Yeah, water boy. He's like, I want as many carts on the field.
Oh, speaking of that guy, chain gang guy, good news for him.

Yeah.

Not as bad as it looked.

It looked horrific.

It looked awful.

Oh, so he will walk at some point again in his life.

It was a dislocated knee, but it was a clean.

Oh, that sounds bad.

It was a cleanly dislocated knee, so apparently he doesn't need surgery or anything.

He just popped it back in?

His leg bent 90 degrees to the side, and then they popped it back, and I think he's going to be okay.

Do they put you under for the pop back in?

They should.

I would request a coma.

I know it's not surgery, but please, sir.

That's, again, when you watch players dislocate their fingers, which happens every week,

and they just go to the sideline, pop it back in, that to me is the craziest part of being an nfl player but yeah so gross they pop i guess they popped it back in um that's good for him great for him they probably should have made more fun of him they probably would have had to just put him down at that age if you yeah break your leg take out a curtain tear out the the patella acl mcl it's a knee his knee in that moment looked like i'm expecting juju smith schuster's knee to look like at any moment this year. Yeah.
I've told this story before, but I was at the game when Joe Pa got rolled up on his sideline by a Wisconsin player, and the whole crowd chanted, shoot him like a horse. Maybe actually not so bad in retrospect.
Do they shoot horses? Yeah, they shoot horses. Shoot them up.
They don't shoot them. They used to shoot them.
Now they just euthanize them. Yeah, make some glue out of Paterno.
Yeah, but a whole crowd chanting, shoot them like a horse. We actually ended up being right.
Turn them into like a starburst. Yeah.
Use all that gelatin in his hooves. Yeah.
The Bengals also, Jake Browning, we need to remember this, is a great lesson in time and place and skill positions around you. Because Jake Browning looked really good on Monday night.
And it shouldn't have been that shocking. It was a little shocking.
But it also shouldn't have been that shocking because, oh, yeah, the Bengals have, like, awesome wide receivers. Yeah, they've got a great roster.
And this is actually a perfect moment. Jake, if you're a listener of this podcast.
Which we know you are. I'd say it's probably like 50-50, right?

Yeah, journeyman.

Seems like the guy journeyman.

Backup.

Quarterback.

What up, Jake?

We've always been a fan of you.

Huge fan.

Have that ground beef and that honey.

Jake.

Oh, that's funny.

I actually just thought of that.

So the ground beef and honey and his name's Browning.

Interesting.

Yeah.

When you combine them together.

Maybe that was him doing that.

Like, I'm just Browning the hamburger.

I'm Browning the meat. Jake, now is the time to fake a deep tissue injury.
Well, no, win one more game. I think right now you're coming off.
I don't think it gets better than Monday night. No, but that was.
But you could always say there was a one-off. We learned our Matt Flynn lesson a long time ago.
We did. You got to do two.
I don't know if every GM did. If I were if i were jake browning i would walk out take one snap and then be like oh my hamstring ah damn it you know what he needs to do he needs to add one thing to his repertoire he needs to get hit really hard and be okay and be like that guy's tough bounce back up he's also tough okay so take a big sack and then bounce right back up and then go to the sidelines and start moving your arm around be like oh I think they're oh it's broken it's my labrum oh shit i need where's my check yeah because you will jake browning if if this is your body of work right now and i mean if you happen to beat the colts this weekend you have a monday night victory in front of the world then you go and you beat the colts you have earned yourself my friend probably 20 million dollars although i would make the argument that Jake Browning, yeah, money's cool.
He could go maybe – I don't know if anyone would – he'd have to put in more work to be like someone sign him for a starter. But he might just be like the Jim Sorge to Peyton Manning.
If you're just career Joe Burrow's backup, that's the best life ever. Yeah.
Because you're also on a loaded team. Yeah.

So, like, that might be, like, what's the cost? If he got paid two – how much does he get paid? Let's see how much he gets paid right now. He's been in the league for a while, so I'm going to guess probably around, like, $3 million a year.
He gets one year $750. Oh.
He's getting paid $750 right now. So if you're Jake Browning and someone offered you, yeah, he's made $1.7 total.
So he's getting paid $750 this year. If the Bengals paid you $2 million and someone else tried to pay you $4 to be a starter on a shitty team, I think I'd take the $2.
Oh, yeah. No, I'm not talking about getting a starting job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying this is a great chance for you to get paid as a backup.
Yeah, just get paid a little bit more as a backup. For a long time.
Because the Bengals can be like, hey, we have a real backup. You know what I would do? Get to the playoffs and you actually would get a starting job.
What I would do if I were Jake Browning, I would try to get a Deshaun Watson-type contract, but as a backup. So, like, I go for seven years, fully guaranteed, 2.5 a year.
Yeah's pretty good right that would be hilarious a seven year uh eight million dollars total cash yeah guaranteed i mean if you're jake browning that's pretty good yeah signing bonus maybe 50k you're 50k and yeah you get like maybe maybe a nice like jeep wrangler yeah jake browning good for you though we rooting for you. And thanks for listening.
I always take pride when I share a name with someone who does good things in sports. Fans of Jake's? Yeah.
Yeah. Like Big Cat.
When Dan Campbell wins games, you're like, that's my name. Nope.
PFT won. Mike Florio writes a great article.
I'm like, that's your name. That's PFT.
Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't do that.
Yeah. But it's cool that you do.
Yeah. He's got 12.
All right, I'm going to DM him right now. His DMs are open.
I'm just like, Jake, we're rooting for you. Jake, fake an injury if you have a good first half.
We're rooting for you this weekend. Thanks for listening to the show.
I looked. He doesn't follow PMT on Instagram.
Yeah, he doesn't follow me, but his DMs are open, so I just hit him up. Okay.
I bet Spencer knows him. Yeah, he probably does.
Okay. I'll text Spencer in a little bit.
Okay. Nerd Nugget.
Do-do-do-do. Oh, this is early.
Nerd Nugget of the week. That was a painful one, Jay.
Would you rather be in a room 24 hours with Max and Hank or have to listen to do-do-do-do sound? One time? Yeah. Probably in a room with Max.
Yeah, I'd agree. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm actually jealous of them right now.
It looks like they're having a great time. Yeah, they do.
Trade. This is the I-74 rivalry.
Cincinnati versus Indianapolis is the closest geographical rivalry among cities in the AFC with a driving distance of 110 miles along I-74. The next closest is Cleveland-Pittsburgh at 137 miles.
Ooh, fantastic. Yeah, so there's a lot of blood between these two teams via the map.
A lot of blood map between them. Yes.
What's the closest in the NFL? Would it be the Jets and Giants or Rams and Chargers? I was going to say Rams, Chargers, yeah. But teams that play in different stadiums.

I would guess like Dolphins, Bucs.

No.

I think maybe Commanders.

It's definitely Commanders, Ravens.

Yeah, for sure.

I got a sneaky one for you that I always forget about

because they don't even play in the same conference,

but Atlanta and Nashville, four hours apart.

I never think about that, that Atlanta and Nashville are four hours apart. I would also say Eagles-Ravens.
Yeah, Eagles-Ravens. Or Eagles-New York, too, and Eagles.
The Northeast is all just jumbled. Megalopolis.
Okay, so your nerd nugget of the week was a map. Yep.
Okay, okay. Shout out to Bengals PR for the stats.
Oh, you – Bengals PR – Well, it was in their game notes. Oh.
I found all these from their game notes. Yeah, yeah.
Jake doesn't, like, come up with these on his own. I thought – for a second there, I thought he hit up Bengals PR.
I was like, what's a nugget? And they're like, well, we're actually pretty close. Yeah.
Do they stay overnight? Yeah, they have to. I'm sure.
Do you have to? Do you have to have to? No. They would have to leave at like 7 a.m.
Yeah, they're definitely doing that for being able to wake up in a hotel. I'm pretty sure home teams stay at a hotel, too.
Yeah, they do. They always do.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Jags at Browns.
I have a question for you, PFT. So there is now a report that Trevor Lawrence might play.
And we like Trevor Lawrence, so no disrespect for what I'm about to say. But if Trevor Lawrence plays, does that make him tough or a pussy? Well, that's an interesting question.
It's a conundrum. Because when he left the field, and we talked about this on Wednesday, when he left the field, every Jaguars fan thought, not only is this season over, but next year is down the drain too.
The way he slammed his helmet down on the ground. Again, just me, I would never leave a game like that.
I would stay in. I would never get tackled.
But sometimes a sprain is worse than a break. Correct.
But this is a very fine line we're walking because it would be tough to play, but also be like, dude, what was that reaction? It's like when Mac Jones was crying with an ankle sprain. It's like, I don't know.
I thought you never were going to walk again. Yeah, I think we have to look back.
And I mentioned it to Chaps. I was like, Chaps, I'm going to say something to you that I will not say on the show.
I ended up saying on the show anyways. But Trevor Lawrence, kind of a pussy.
Yeah. And then Chaps was like, well, here's what he was actually crying about.
He was crying because he was mad that he couldn't finish the game with his guys. Oh, okay.
That's fair. That's a football guy.
That's a great spin zone. So I actually think Trevor lord should not play just so that we can have some time where it's like oh that was a real injury then next week he becomes tough yeah because next week it's like yeah 10 10 days of rehab he's back tough they need to say like doctors said it would take me six weeks i'm back in two yeah yeah um this game is going to be weird though this is going to be a weather game yeah we have a few weather games we got some weather going on i think it's going to be weird, though.
This is going to be a weather game. Yeah.
We have a few weather games. We got some weather going on.
I think it's going to be like 20 mile an hour winds or above in Cleveland. It's going to have rain.
We might get grapple, which that's apparently weather that only Cleveland gets. The geography of Cleveland is so interesting because it's right on the lake, and it's got all this crazy wind and all this crazy precipitation that comes in they're the only city that i know of that gets grappled i've never heard of grapple before but it's like it's dirty sleep it's like it's like that shit that you find at the end of february that's been frozen yeah on the roads for the last four in a parking lot and a target parking lot yeah it's all just yeah the piles it's um cleveland is basically basically America's rainforest.
Yes. When it comes to how weird and random the weather can be.
Yeah, and there's so many different species of animals that live there. It's actually a good, like, yeah, Cleveland's our rainforest.
I like that. Yeah.
Don't destroy Cleveland. Yeah.
You're probably destroying the cure for cancer. Yeah, right.
We need Cleveland. Cleveland is the oxygen hub of America.
Yeah,'s yeah it's america's lungs um so i i actually think that if trevor lawrence plays that's bad for the jags because he the jags have been very good with moving him and having him run for first downs and if he plays there's no way he's going to be 100 on the ankle and if you're playing against the browns defensive line and they have a quarterback back there that you know can't scramble,

they're just going to tee off.

Yeah, counterpoint to that, though,

you'd probably still want an immobile Trevor Lawrence over C.J. Beathard.

Well, third-round pick, right?

Yeah, it's a fair counterpoint.

The other big injury here,

and I actually think this is a significant injury for this game specifically.

So remember back week one, I think it was,

Christian Kirk had a bad game.

Everyone was like, Christian Kirk's going to be awesome in this.

All right. injury for this game specifically.
So remember back week one, I think it was Christian Kirk had a bad game. Everyone was like, Christian Kirk's going to be awesome in this offense.
And then after that, Doug Peterson said, I can't remember who they played week one, but he's like, yeah, they played a lot of zone. Christian Kirk thrives against man defense.
So he has, and if you look at the stats throughout the season, when they play heavy man defenses Christian Kirk usually goes off the Browns are the number one man defense so that's actually a huge injury for this specific game Christian Kirk being out so he yeah he would have gone off he would have been their antidote to what the Browns want to do defensively and now they don't have that well so if you're the Jaguars if you lose this game you say it would have been totally different if christian kirk correct so that's a good built-in excuse correct in addition to maybe a backup quarterback uh more flacco more fun more fun more fun for the people let's see joe let joe air it out he's used to playing that's why um that's why the ravens took him as high as they did yeah the story was that he played you know at delaware he played at pittsburgh for a little bit he's used to playing shitty weather. In the AFC North, you have to play a lot of shitty weather games.
That's why they took Joe. Also, big hands, strong arm.
This is going to be a classic Joe Flacco shitty weather game. What's the crowd reaction to Joe Flacco? Is it full cheer? I don't think you can full cheer him yet.
I think... He did beat your fucking brain in.
I'm going to look up Joe Flacco versus the Browns. But I don't think they ever had real animosity towards Joe Flacco.
Hating Joe Flacco was like hitting a dog. Joe Flacco's record versus the Browns, wanna guess? 21 games? 18-3.
Yeah. Oh, really? No, I swear I guessed.
Yeah, 18-3. I was gonna say 18-3, too.
Yeah, you were right. I was right, thanks.
Good job, PFT. 18-3.
Thanks, Jake. Very cool.
So he did kill the Browns. Yeahs yeah but i don't think everyone killed the browns back i don't think they hate joe more than they hate like peyton manning i want the browns to win this game i want the browns to be in the playoffs yeah i i'm rooting for the browns to make the playoffs so am i yeah i'm heavily rooting for the browns to make the playoffs uh all right nerd nugget for the third time in team history the browns have started four different players at quarterback in the season deshaun watson pj walker dtr and joe flacco in 2008 they had derrick anderson brady quinn ken dorsey and bruce gradkowski who we saw in grit week yeah at toledo and in 1988 bernie kosar mike pagel uh don strock and gary danielson wow yes i mean it's classic browns this is the quarterbacks they've had this year will be a nice little addition to that sad jersey because you got Deshaun.
Then you've got two guys that probably won't play there much anymore after this season. You'll kind of forget their names over the years.
Maybe DTR. I had the stat a few weeks ago.
It was something insane. In the last 10 years, it was like 35 different quarterbacks played for the Browns.
And that includes two seasons where Baker Mayfield didn't miss a start. Yeah.
It's crazy. And you also get Flacco on there, and that'll be a nice combo breaker when you look back on it.
Oh, yeah, you remember Flacco was a Brown? Yeah. Okay, next up, Lions at Bears.
I think the Bears can win this game. So you're not insane to say that.
I think like a month ago it would have been like, okay, Big Cat's trying to talk himself up, get himself amped up for a game here. I think it's going to be another city weather game.
It's cleared up a little. You get the early reports.
It's funny how the gambling works. I saw the Bengals-Colts game had bad weather reported on Monday, and it went all the way down to like 41.
And then on Tuesday they're like like, no, just kidding. And it went right back up to 44.
So you got to be careful of the early reports. So I guess it was an early report that I saw.
But the Bears are looking way, way, way better than they were a month ago. The Lions feeling hot right now.
36 degrees, no precipitation. That's not bad.
I don't think a look-ahead game exists in Dan Campbell's universe.

I think Dan Campbell respects the game of football.

No, they're not going to look ahead because the Bears almost beat the Lions three weeks ago,

so I don't think that that's a possibility.

I think the Bears can win this game for a couple reasons.

One, the Bears' run defense has been much improved.

I think they're number one against the run in the last month. That's what the Lions want to do.
Two, Frank Ragnow, possibly out, center for the Lions. Also, you know how we love to do who's the most important player on a team? And Lions fans, you can tell me I'm stupid.
You can tell me this makes no sense. I think it's Jared Goff.
No, on their defense, Aleem McNeil, their defensive tackle is out. And if you watch the Lions, he has been the guy in the middle who's been able to keep things together.
He got put on IR. He's very, very important.
Not like a name that everyone knows, but he's very, very important. And then three, Justin Fields fields against the lions they have never been able to stop him running he's averaged 127 yards against the lions yeah on the on the ground running there were there was one game last year we just went off on him yes and did some very remember he had that that touchdown where you like just broke every rush that uh linebacker in the end zone yes so and that now you could also, counterpoint, it's still Luke Getze and Matt Eberflus.
And I'd say, you know what? That's a really good counterpoint because the Bears will always find a way to lose a game. But I just, yeah, I think the Bears might be able to win this one.
And Lions fans know. We've talked about it.
Their defense is troubling. Very troubling.
It's troubling. And I still think the Lions are a a really good team so it's not like trying to shit on the lions their offense is elite they just have to figure out and they will get guys back they'll get guys healthier so they can hope that you know late late december early january they start to turn a corner but right now i'd put it under the troubling category it's it's concerning to me yeah if i was elon musk rep to a tweet, I would say this game, concerning for the Lions defense.
Their defense last week against the Saints was very bad for about two and a half quarters. That game felt like it was out of reach after seven minutes.
No, no, no, no, no. No lead is safe, really, if you're a Detroit fan.
And they're getting, yeah, I think, what, Anzalone's been out. CJ Gardner-Johnson has out yeah like they have a few guys that are going to come back Aleem McNeil will hopefully come back I think he got put on uh I think they said four weeks and I think they signed another guy in place so yeah maybe they'll they'll be able to turn turn around once you get healthy get healthy at the right time I do love Branch I love Branch yeah beast he's a monster there was a very mean report that came out yesterday it said brian branch said that the washington commanders said that they were going to draft him if he was still on the board with a 16th pick and then they just didn't do it and he's like glad that we didn't take him which is fair like i'd probably be glad if i was a defensive player that did not get drafted by the commanders but to put that report out now it's like one of my favorite rookies wanted to play on the team that i love and then he's like but they just didn't take me it's unnecessary rubbing salt in the wound it's like the coach's graphic that they show yeah um that's just one this season's been hard enough we're losing all our good players our pets heads are falling off i don't need to know that brian branch wanted to play for my team yeah the enemy is going to be the next coach of the Bears.
Like, this sucks. Yeah, congratulations.

Yeah, thank you.

We'll see.

We'll see what happens on Sunday.

This is why they play the games.

I hope Lions fans know I do come in peace

because it's like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

And I have not gotten – I think we talked about this before the season

that there will be a moment when the Lions are good enough

and start winning enough that I will start hating them because in division i have not reached that moment like i don't hate the lions yeah i mean i root for jared that'll be way premature if you start yeah no they have to they have to like start stacking up some nfc north you know uh titles and i'm like yeah fuck i hate them because they keep winning this but it hasn't gotten there yet it's still all eyes on you know the packers and how much i hate them if the lions win this weekend i think i'm going to crown them champions of the nfc north i think i think i'm going to be pretty close i'm going to anoint them they'll be pretty close they are they're getting close to their magic number uh okay nerd nugget lions tight end sam laporta is just the sixth player in nfl history and first tight end to produce 60 receptions, 675 yards, and six touchdowns through 12 career games. He joins Justin Jefferson, Michael Thomas, OBJ, Marcus Colston, and Quambold.
He's a beast. He's so good.
He's an absolute beast. To have those numbers as a tight end.
We talked to Gronk in a minute, and he mentioned Sam Laporta. For people who are watching the YouTube right now, Max is now just doing the balloon by himself.
Hank has quit on the balloon. It's very funny.
Maybe they're going in shifts. Maybe Max is going, then Hank gets sloppy seconds.
I can see Hank just being like, you know I'm your boss. Pass it around.
Here, you take the balloon. Okay, next up, Bucks at Falcons.
This could decide the NFC South. I think it probably will.
If the Falcons win, it would be hard for them not to win the nfc south the falcons aren't dead if they lose by no means because they already beat the box it's a tie uh but yeah if the falcons win this game i i will anoint them and it's nfc south champions and i uh i feel like the box defense is getting by a little bit on reputation these days and they have a ton of injuries still got collage of cansy Kansi. They do.
So many TFLs. Which I meant to talk to you about.
Should we maybe put a little on Will Anderson? Let me see. Because Will Anderson, I think, like...
I actually have an ear-dogging on him later on. Jalen Carter, I think, is the favorite, and Devin Witherspoon, but if the Texans go to the playoffs, I think Will Anderson, like, he two sacks last week.
He's starting to – he might be the guy right now. I'm trying to find the features.
I think he's plus 350. I think it might be a Will Anderson bet time.
Let's see. Defensive Rookie of the Year.
Where are we at? I think we need to go – Jalen Carter's minus 200. Will Anderson's plus 350.
Brian Branch plus 4,000. I'll sprinkle on Will.

I think Will might win it.

I'm also going to sprinkle on Brian.

If the Texans get to the playoffs, I think that they'll clean up on some of these awards.

Well, they're going to get CJ for sure.

Right.

He's like locked in right now.

Although Puka.

Puka.

Puka.

Puka.

Not bad.

Puka.

Comeback player of the year, maybe Mechie. Mechie's going to be stepping up.
Yeah. Tank Dell out.
Yeah, I like the Falcons in this game. And I'm just going back to what no one in the NFC South excites me, but if I had to pick, it would be the Falcons.
The Falcons, they can be fun. Yeah, no, and I just, like, I wish Taylor Heineke was playing,

but in terms of being in the playoffs,

I don't want to watch the Bucs in the playoffs.

I don't want to watch the Saints in the playoffs.

I could talk myself into watching the Falcons in the playoffs.

I think the Falcons might be a team you don't want to play in the playoffs.

I don't think that's true.

Because they can muck it up.

I think whoever it will most likely be the Cowboys,

I think they'll be fine playing the Falcons in the playoffs. We'll see.
They'll be more than happy to go play the Falcons in the playoffs. They're going to be the most disrespected team in the playoffs.
And rightfully so. Everyone's going to be like, why are the Falcons hosting a playoff game? Yeah, and rightfully so.
But still. I might unload on the Cowboys now that we're saying it.
Okay, nerd nugget. Buccaneers wide receiver Mike Evans, as we mentioned the other day, now has 1,000 receiving yards.
It's his fifth career season with that, having 1,000 receiving yards and 10 or more receiving touchdowns. That ties him for the fifth most in NFL history.
Every player with at least five seasons of 10 touchdowns and 1,000 yards, all in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
He's been incredible.

What do you think about Baker?

So if the Bucs in their season, let's just say they're 8-9 at the end of the year.

Probably realistic, right?

Maybe 7-10.

But if they're 8-9, what are the chances Baker comes back to the Bucs next year?

I think he comes back.

I think they'll probably draft someone.

Yeah.

But I think they're done with Trask.

Yeah. I think if Trask hasn't taken over the job by now, there's probably a reason for that.
He would have done it. Okay, next up.
Texans, oh no, sorry, Panthers at Saints. Gross.
Gross. The only thing I had on this game is I oftentimes struggle with a narrative and when the narrative actually dies.
Example, like Oregon when they switched from Chip Kelly, when they had a couple string of bad coaches, and I was like, but it's Oregon. They're going to be good offensively.
They're going to score 70 points. I can't get it out of my head if I know a team is one way and then all this evidence shows me something else.
I'm like, no, but it's so hard. This is exactly what it is.
My point is the Dome is not a home field advantage right now. So the Saints are 0-5 against the spread this year at home.
They're 0-7 in their last seven against the spread at home. They're 5-15 against the spread at home since 2021.

The Dome is not the Dome.

Yes, the Dome has been aging along with a lot of their roster.

Right.

So it's like, but in your head, you always say when there's a game in New Orleans,

you're like, tough place to play.

I think the Dome picks and chooses its moments.

So like a big third down, the Dome can still bring it for like one play.

But it can't sustain it. But it doesn't sustain it.
No, it's like an aging veteran that you put in to rush the passer on third and longs, and that's their specialty. That's kind of what the Dome's at right now.
The Dome needs to get its cardio up. Yeah, well, I don't know if the Dome can get its cardio to the point that it once was.
Yeah. They need good players.
That's probably what would get the Dome back Yeah. They need the second that they don't start anybody on offense that was also around during the Drew Brees era.
At that point, then I think the dome could get its mojo back. Because the easier way to say it is it has nothing to do with the dome.
And it's the fact that Saints just stink. Wait, the dome.
Don't discount the dome. I'm not discounting the dome.
I'm just saying you could alternately say, well, yeah, because they're not good. The dome is it is it's it's had an off couple years it is the first time i think they have this oh and five uh against spritz since like 1980 it's also cool that they just get to call their dome the dome the dome it's the dome it is it's not the super dome like other domes there they exist there are other stadiums that have domes but if you were to say like uh like atlanta no You don't that the dome.
No, that's Mercedes-Benz. That's the butthole.
Yeah. It's the dome.
It's where they don't serve Chick-fil-A on Sundays. Yep.
Dome is just a great name. Yeah.
I love dome. I do too.
I love everything. Big fan of dome.
Huge fan. Jake, you love dome? Can't say I hate it.
Okay. Misrepositions.
All right. All right.
Okay. So I kind of want to take the Panthers in this game.
Yeah. I don't, I still don't know what to make about Tabor, the interim coach.
There was a report that came out this week that it was like the hunger games inside the facility where other coaches were like texting with Pepper behind Frank Reich's back. Is that really behind the head coach's back? Is it on an NFL team? is it normal for only the head coach to have a relationship with the owner i don't know because i feel like a functional work environment it's like everybody should be in contact with everybody that wants to talk to them uh no i i would say like the special teams coach probably doesn't talk to the owner very often it depends i guess on what's being said yeah like if tepper's reaching out to the special teams guy and he's like hey chris um what do you think about frank's play call right last week when it was fourth down and he and he went for it and then if you're doing that kind of back and forth then yeah that's hunger game shit yeah i also the panthers i'll say this jc horn is back he played last week in limited uh amounts, but he's going to be ramped up this week.
He does change their defense. Yeah.
So I think I'm going to take the Panthers. Again, if you're a Saints fan, and I had a lot of Saints fans reach out to me, and they agreed, like, they should not be winning games now.
Getting into the playoffs this year for the Saints is bad for the future of the franchise. They need the full reset.
Give me a full Taysom game.

Give me Taysom all day. We might get Jameis.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
I feel like

Derek Carr just doesn't want to sit.

I made the switch last week where I thought

to myself, like, Taysom as a starting

quarterback, I think he gives you

the best chance to win right now if you have him.

Because he's so hard to plan for.

But Derek Carr, like, this guy won't

just sit down for a game. Let me see.
Yeah, he's limited in hard to plan for. But Derek Carr, like this guy won't just sit down for a game.

Let me see.

What is he?

Yeah, he's limited in practice.

He's tough.

He's just let Jameis play.

It also just occurred to me that there's a chance that David Tepper himself was the source of the Hunger Games quote.

Yeah.

Because in his mind, he's like, I run such like a tight ship around here and everybody fears me that they think it's the Hunger Games, and he thinks that's cool. Yeah.
There's a good chance that that's what happened. Yeah, he definitely.
It wasn't like somebody complaining about being pitted against their co-worker. Yeah.
Tepper wants people to know that's how I run. Welcome to the Hunger Games.
Yeah. David Tepper joint.
Okay, Nerd Nugget. Last week, Saints running back Alvin Kamara surpassed Marcus Colston to become the franchise's total yards from scrimmage leader at 9,809.
So he's 191 away from 10,000 yards as a Saint. Last early game, Texans at Jets.
Memes, I got bad news for you. I think I'm going to take the Jets.
I think Zach Wilson is the spark.

I do.

I think he's the spark.

You're not trolling?

No, I keep thinking about it more and more,

and it's maybe less Zach Wilson and more just looking at the board

and being like everyone's going to say

Texas minus three and a half is the easiest bet.

They pay those guys on the Jets to play football too.

And Zach Wilson might be a spark. So it's the saddest spark ever.
No, no, no, no, no, no. I think it is.
No, we said it. Tim Boyle to Trevor Simeon to Tim Boyle was the saddest spark.
That's a sad spark. Going back to Zach Wilson, that's sadder, but for much, much different reasons.
Yeah, but I still think the benching Trevor Simeon for Tim Boyle is the saddest spark you can ever do. At that point, it was about more like just not having Tim Boyle on the field, like anybody but Tim Boyle.
With Zach Wilson, it's like maybe he's learned how to play quarterback in the last week. Yeah.
Maybe. It's fresh.
Fresh legs. Maybe these last three years, we can just kind of put those out the window.
Maybe now is the time. Something clicked.
Yeah. Did something click for Zach Wilson during this last week? Was getting benched in that fashion a wake-up call for young Zach? That's a good question.
It could be. Memes? I think he's the only, like, semi-mobile quarterback left in the room.
Like, Trevor Simeon took three steps, immediately got hit. Maybe that's why they're putting him back in, because Salah hates him and wants him to get hurt.
There was that report from Joe Benengo, the WFAN radio host. He had a text message with Robert Salah, and he leaked it on air and made it sound like Robert Salah hated

Jack Wilson yeah this could be this could be coach being like I'm so mad at you for you I had to

start you so many times this season when I didn't want to now I'm going to start you and hopefully

you're going to get destroyed yeah this could be a vengeance start from Salah it's very possible

and I think the defense might even be like a week or two away from just completely quitting I think

Thank you. get destroyed yeah this could be a vengeance start from sala it's very possible and i think the defense might even be like a week or two away from just completely quitting i think yeah i think they're a game-to-game quit watch like we saw the dolphins game is the halftime yeah last week they were still flying yeah they almost there was a chance for a second there there's like hey maybe they're gonna win this game to nothing i love it when defenses fly around out there's my favorite.
And then you also have the rookie quarterback. CJ Stroud is due for a rookie quarterback game.
No tank Dell. No tank Dell.
It's an elite defense. Robert Salah knows D'Amico Ryans very well.
Kind of a master and student in the pupil. Is that no? Yes, teacher, student.
Teacher, student. No.
Teacher and pupil. Teacher and pupil.
I said student and pupil. Yeah.
I don't even know why I'm trying to talk myself into this. Well, I'll give you.
Because I started this snowball. There's a certain young man that's coming back this weekend expected to make a big difference on the Jets offense.
Oh, we're talking spark? Big spark for the Jets. People have been talking about this guy for the last couple weeks.
Like, when's he going to get out there on the field? There have been videos of him warming up all the time. When is this guy going to play? Izzy.
Izzy season. Izzy.
It's officially Izzy season. It is? It's officially Izzy season? It might be officially Izzy season.
Oh, my God. I'm going to have to bet this fucking guy who's never even going to get in the game.
No, he's going to get in this week, right? There's no chance. He never gets in.
It's not confirmed, but Brees Hall was. Brees Hall said he was going to play.
But will he be 100%? Will he be 100%? Would you rather have 60% Brees Hall or 110% Izzy? 60% Brees Hall. 110% Izzy.
60% Brees Hall. 110% Izzy.
Give me Izzy. I'll take a 10% Brees Hall.
I'll take Brees Hall. He doesn't have legs.
Feed me Izzy. All right, let's just do Brees Hall and Izzy.
No, the Jets are going to score two touchdowns? What are you talking about? Without Dalvin Cook. You can't.
The Jets. Betting the Jets to score two touchdowns would be the craziest bet ever.
But now, fuck. Now maybe they will.
Yeah, I objected last week when they said they lost a one-score game jets that's not a one score game also it's not that's that's like a four safety game here's here's something for you memes um the last eight texans games lost by two one by seven one by two one by two one by three one by five lost by three one by five my point they don these games are always tight. They can be better than a team, and it will come down to the last possession.
I think we're going to take the Jets memes. Texans playing fun games.
I think we're going to take the Jets memes. Okay, nerd nugget.
So I confused Willie Anderson and Derek Stingley. This is about Derek Stingley.
Oh, that's a huge mistake. Yeah, Texans quarterback Derek Stingley is the first player in franchise history to tally four interceptions in a three-game span as the only player in the league to accomplish that feat this season.
He joins Darius Williams and Matt Milano as the only players to record an interception in three consecutive games this year. So wait, you gave us a preview of the Nerd Nugget, and it wasn't even the right guy? Well, Will Anderson got brought up a few games ago, and like oh yeah i have something on him but it was the wrong different guy different text yeah your texans confused uh okay before we get to the crown jewels and the late slate game time shouldn't have to worry when you're buying tickets to your next big event game time is a fast and easy way to buy tickets for all sports music comedy and theater events near you go near you.
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Download GameTime today. Last minute price guaranteed okay late slate Vikings at Raiders Justin Jefferson back Jefferson back which is good because this is another receiver that Josh Dobbs does not have a connection with yet meaning he will play really well with Justin Jefferson yes that's what he does it's we we looked it up I think it's the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Yeah. Where you start out and you're really good.
Then the more you know, you get worse. Yes.
And then at the end, when you're an expert, then you're really good again. Justin Jefferson also, Nate Tice, who does a great job, wrote an article about Justin Jefferson in the run game.
The Vikings run game is way more efficient when he's on the field, not even because of him as a blocker, but just because of what defenses have to prepare for with Justin Jefferson. This game, though, any result wouldn't surprise me.
Yeah, I don't think that the Vikings are good enough to be expected to win this game. And they're favorites on the road.
And they're favorites on the road. And the Raiders are not bad.
No. They've actually been okay.

They've been decent since making the coaching change.

Like Josh McDaniels is probably – what lies do you think Josh McDaniels is telling himself

to explain how they got so much better?

Because he's not admitting –

Schedule.

He's probably doing a big schedule thing.

Yeah, look at –

Like, oh, look how soft it was.

I would have won all these games anyway.

I didn't get the right opportunity.

Yeah.

Stole this from me. That's probably what he's saying, but they're a much better team without them, obviously.
And I think these are just two. This is the mid-off of the week.
Yeah. Vikings, Raiders, mid-off of the week.
And whoever wins can tell themselves maybe playoffs, even though I think the Vikings might. There was that nice run, but the fact that the Rams and the Packers have looked ascendant makes me...
Don't the Vikings have to play... Oh, they play the Packers one more time.
They play the Lions twice. Maybe they could still make the playoffs.
They could. Oh yeah, if they beat the Lions twice, they definitely could.
They have to win this game. They have to win this game.
They gotta win this one. I mean, if you're a Vikings fan, you got a team that fights.
You guys have been fighting your dick off. Yeah.
You got a defensive coordinator that at the start of the year looked like somehow this defense might be worse than the defense was last year. But things have gotten into shape over there.
There was an article that came out about him, about how he invented a new kind of defense this year, like a new way to look at the zone blitz that's never been done in the history of the NFL.

So if you're a Vikings fan, you've got that,

your defense is better, and you've been fighting in every game.

So I guess you're happy.

It's like you could say that if Kirk Cousins was still our quarterback,

we'd be right in the thick of it.

Yeah, and now that I'm looking at it,

they do have everything in front of them.

They play the Lions, Packers, and Lions to finish the season.

Yeah. So, yeah.
But they've got to win this. They win this fighting they have to win this one this is a must win um okay uh nerd nugget for this game vikings fans are familiar with raiders receiver devante adams no player has caught more touchdowns against minnesota than adams who recorded 13 while with the packers okay um all right next game broncos Chargers.
I like the Broncos in this game, and I'll state my case. I was looking at it, PFT.
The Chargers offense stinks now. Back to the Dome discussion about perception, you're like, oh, Justin Herbert, they got all these weapons.
Austin Eckler looks old. They can't run the ball.
Joshua Palmer's been out, so they only have Keenan Allen.

PFT, Keenan Allen has the most receptions on the Chargers team.

How many more receptions does he have than the second most?

I'm going to say he has 800 more receptions.

He has 71 more receptions than the second most receptions on the team.

Are you talking about this year?

This year.

This year, 71. Yeah, that's a lot.
Keenan Allen needs to be respected more. He does.
And he, so I went and looked at it since Joshua Palmer has been out because he was a good receiver. He was a good complimentary piece to Keenan Allen.
Keenan Allen has accounted for 46% of all Chargers passing yards. Yeah.
It's literally just throw. I think Brandon Sale even said it.
It's like if I could throw it to him like 80 times, I would. There was one game they threw it to him probably like 25, 26 times.
Yeah. He's awesome.
He's the most crisp route runner in the NFL. So I say all that.
That's probably not true, but he's very good. I say all that because the Broncos, if they want to do this, who knows if they will, but they could just put Patrick Sartain on them.
And then they have nothing. And they have literally nothing.
Like this is a team that is getting by on – I don't even know if they're getting by on reputation anymore because everyone thinks they stink. But you do think Chargers, you think offense, like they have so many guys, they don't got anyone.
It's also a sad state of affairs if you're the Chargers and you're like people are only talking about us because of our reputation as the chargers right like that

which is a good reputation right although the one thing that's holding him up i think khalil mac is leading the nfl in sacks he is so he's he's having a great season individually he also i think has had the i think he's like four games in a row multiple sacks like he's he's been a beast yeah he's he's still very very good uh this this spread, Chargers minus three. I'm going to tip my hat to Vegas.
I think Vegas nailed this spread. Yeah.
Because somebody's winning this game by three points. You can do the old Mincy.
Yeah. They got it right.
They got this one right. They got this one right.
So this is a stay away. Don't need to give a pick.
They got it right. It's a stay away from me.
I kind of like the Broncos. I think they got it right.
They got it right. Okay, nerd nugget in this game.

Broncos wide receiver Cortland Sutton needs one touchdown

to become the first Bronco since wide receiver Demarius Thomas

and tight end Julius Thomas in 2014

to record double-digit receiving touchdowns in a single season.

He's good.

He's good.

He's good.

He's been very good.

Those teams were amazing too.

Yes.

Payton's guys.

Yes.

Okay.

Bills and Chiefs. BFT, I'm going to talk crazy for a second.
Permission to talk crazy. Go off.
If you think the Bills are going to win this game. I do.
I do too. If you think the Bills are going to win this game, why not bet them to win the Super Bowl? I guess that's fair.
They're 35-1 right now. It's fair.
They have to get, like, the Bills to me right now, I don't know if they're going to make the playoffs. I think it's probably a toss-up at this point because they do have a tough schedule.
And if they don't make the playoffs, it's only themselves to blame because they lost games in the beginning of the season to teams that they should have beaten easily, and we know how that went. But if they do make the playoffs, and considering all the injuries and weird shit that's happened on all the teams ahead of them, why would the Bills not be just as capable as all these other teams who, in their current form, maybe outside of the Ravens, you can say there's a hole there? Yeah, so I understand your logic.
Their schedule is not super easy. No, it's hard.
So there is a way that they could win this game and then very easily not make the playoffs. But my point is if they win this game, the price will go from like $35 to $1 to $20 to $1.
Yeah, now would be the time to do it, then maybe cash out. This is, by the way, we should do an alert because people have been accusing us of glazing the Bills recently.

Oh yeah, I'm glazing the Bills. Big time.
I'm Jay Glazer over here. I mean, the Bills...

They're getting glazed. I still

think they're a very good team. They just have...

The Bills have only themselves to

blame for what has happened this season.

They have lost games that they should never

have lost. And they lost games to teams

that they should have killed. They lost to the Patriots.

Yep. Didn't they? Yeah.

They lost to the Jets. They lost to the Jets.
They lost to the

Broncos when the Broncos were still, like, bad and hadn't put it back together. They've lost games.
They are only themselves to blame. But I'm just saying in terms of a value proposition, if you told me the Bills were in the playoffs, like, what would be the argument that they don't have just as much of a chance as every other team given what's happened in the AFC? It's not like the Bills are so much better than everyone else.
I think everyone else has come down a little bit. I think the value proposition against that would be they're still coached by Sean McDermott.
Yeah, and it's been tough. There was a very interesting article that came out today.
I don't know if this came across your desk, Big came across mine tyler dunn wrote this um regarding sean mcdermott okay and some of the ways that maybe inside the building he's lost some of the team um there was an anecdote from 2021 when he was addressing the entire team this was at saint john fisher college in pittsburgh new york mcdermott's morning address began innocently enough he told the entire team they needed to come together but then sources on hand say he used a strange model the terrorists on september 11th 2001 oh he cited the hijackers this is an athletic plus plus this is not the athletic premium plus this was i don't think when i saw this i was like i, I thought to myself, did I tweet this screenshot out? And so I had to look it up. Okay, continue.
Sorry. He cited the hijackers as a group of people who were still able to get on the same page to orchestrate attacks to perfection.
One by one, McDermott started asking specific players in the room questions. What tactics do you think they use to come together?

Oh, man. A young player tried to methodically answer, what do you think their biggest obstacle was? A veteran answered TSA, which mercifully lightened the mood.
Fact check, TSA did not exist until after 9-11 for a related reason. But yeah, if you've reached the point in your motivational speeches where you're asking the guys to emulate the hijackers on September 11th,

2000. But yeah, if you've reached the point in your motivational speeches where you're asking the guys to emulate the hijackers on September 11th, 2001, on your football team, I think it's time to start asking some questions about how can we get this guy just a word of the day calendar that we can all study and rally around? Yeah.
Let's get back to watching, hell, bring in Sean Payton and have the wildlife channel

of gazelles getting hunted down by lions. Two truths and a lie.
Two truths and a lie. Trust fault.
Yeah. Let's go back.
Maybe let's do another rookie skit. Ice breakers.
The rookie skit goes out there like George W. Bush.
Yeah. All right, so I just searched Sean McDermott's name on X, formerly Twitter.
He spoke to the media today. So this is breaking news of the last like 10 minutes.
He said that his intent with the team meeting in 2019 in which he referenced 9-11 was to emphasize the importance of communication. He said that he regretted it and apologized to the team soon after for not better communicating his point.
That's ironic. Yeah.
He was doing a lesson on communication and he didn't communicate that you shouldn't use the terrorists on 9-11 as the point to prove about communication. He should have had someone come in and speak to him before he talked to the team and use the 9-11 hijackers as an example of how he should be communicating with his team.
Then he would not have used the example of the 9-11 hijackers when he communicated with his team. Okay, you know what? Everything I said about the Bills winning the Super Bowl, I'm throwing out.
Does not count. Disavow? Listen, I didn't expect it to go this way, but I think they're going to win this game, but the fact that their head coach has to do a press conference today talking about the time that he said that the 9-11 hijackers really communicated well and they're admirable to look at in a team building standpoint.
I didn't see that one coming. I'm going to say you can't win a Super Bowl if that happened.
I'm going to agree with that. Everything we said, we're no more glazing.
We have not glazed anymore. Part of my take, we're removing the glaze.
Yes, the glaze has been removed. On this podcast, if we stand for nothing else, we're anti-Nazi and we are anti-9-11 hijackers I was going to bet the bills and I will not I can't, what are we talking about? It's the old drill tweet, under no circumstances do you have to hand it to the 9-11 hijackers Alright, Chiefs Alright, Chiefs it is I think I gotta fix my advisor's pick People are going to say you're pro 9-11 now.
Yeah, when they see advisors, they're like, oh, you picked the Bills. Material change.
That was taped on Wednesday. Can we go back to our interview with Sean McDermott and just add to the lower third, part of my take does not endorse the 9-11 hijackers to just run during that interview? I wish we had known this.
This would have been a good clip for us to bring up. It would have, yeah'm i'm actually shocked that none of this came out before now yeah you know they say it actually is a sign that he is in trouble because someone's been holding that yes they're like i know that i can just say this to a reporter at some point yeah because when you're winning football games nobody cares what motivational tactics you use but the second things go south all of a sudden that 9-11 speech that you gave gets brought up.
Okay. Okay.
Wow. Yeah.
Shocking. Shocking, even as far as NFL head coach motivational tactics go.
Yeah. Okay.
I'm going to have to change my picture of the Chiefs everywhere. Okay.
Nerd Nugget. The offenses led by Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes may end up stealing the show here show here but both the bills and chiefs have three players each with at least six sacks this season tied for the second most in the nfl the dolphins lead the league with four players who have at least six sacks the chiefs defense i'm a little worried about because i think maybe nick bolton is coming back but they had nick bolton go down i think in the chargers game then drew tranquilil went down last week in the Green Bay game with a concussion.
Those are the guys, Green Dot guys, who were communicating the entire defense. And you could tell in the Packers game it was a drop-off.
So I think Nick Bolton is going to play. I don't know what Drew Tranquil, if you can get out of concussion protocol that quick.
But that is something to watch because that is part of – Steve Sp spagnola wants to do some funky ass shit you probably can't get it's very rare that a player now comes out of concussion protocol within the week brock purdy did brock purdy he's elite he's built different he's elite um as far as the 9 11 thing goes again like if you're going to motivate your players it actually makes sense that the bills seasons have been the way been the way that they were because they didn't study how to take off or land. Yeah.
And they're always bad at the start of the season, bad at the end of the season. Yeah, man.
They're good on cruise control. That's shocking.
It is shocking, isn't it? Yeah. By the way, we just got a text message, I think, from me, or no, maybe from Shane saying, Jerry just asked if he should go in and leaf blow the balloon.

Yes.

Yeah, that's good.

We won't count it against them, but I would like to see them react like that.

If you're watching on the YouTube right now, you're going to get a treat because Jerry's

going to leaf blow the balloon and see how they react.

This would be great.

Okay.

Seahawks 49ers is the last afternoon game.

Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp. Oh, bird nugget of the week.
Bird nugget of the week. Oh, I like it.
For the Seahawks. That's a good tune.
Where'd you get it? Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp. That's good.
I like that. I like it too.
Bird nugget of the week. Did you know that a Seahawk is not an actual bird? Oh.
It's not a bird. The Seahawks have a mascot and a logo that does not exist as an actual animal in real life now some people seagull on steroids we got a bunch of osprey heads out there being like yo pft it's it's an osprey some people call an osprey seahawk in the first place that's two words sea and hawk in the second place there's other birds that are also called seahawks so it can be a scua or an osprey there's no such thing as a seahawk now other fun fact about the seahawks mascot wait are we on live did shane put us live on the stream don't put us on the stream because we don't i mean we're doing bird nuggets of the week we can't have the people you gotta tune in to part of my take for that stuff yeah so this is very important because you might say to yourself hey pft uh they actually have a live mascot that's a hawk and you're right they they very much do in fact have a live mascot it's not a seahawk the live mascot that they use is a captive bred 10 year old auger hawk named taima does he live by the sea no, Augerhawks live in the fucking mountains of Africa.

Oh.

And it's not even a Seahawk,

so there's no such thing as a Seahawk.

Bird Nugget of the Week.

Chirp, chirp.

That was a great Bird Nugget of the Week.

Good song.

Niners are going to win this game.

I have talked myself into the Seahawks being frisky.

Okay.

Can I help you?

They were frisky last week.

Yeah, they were frisky last week.

It felt like it was a throw everything at the kitchen, you know, the kitchen sink game where it's like we've got to win this game. The Niners officially are the best team in the NFL.
You could just point to their three losses, Debo Samuel and Trent Williams being out and how good they've looked every single game that they have not been out. I also think the Seahawks struggle defending the middle of the field, struggle in tackling.
Christian McCaffrey's pretty good at avoiding tackles and running routes in the middle of the field. Same with Kittle, same with Debo.
You know who's good in the middle of the field? Bobby Wagner. Bobby Wagner's maybe lost a step.
Well, he's definitely lost a step from his prime, but he's still not bad. I like the Seahawks to cover in this game.

Ten and a half.

I think they're trapping you.

That's a lot of points.

I think you're getting trapped by the Niners.

Yeah, they're coming off a mini-buy from last Thursday.

No, the Seahawks are.

Seahawks, sorry.

Yeah, the Seahawks are coming off a mini-buy from last Thursday.

Oh, here comes the leaf blower.

They're struggling.

They're getting up. They're getting up.
This is great. This is some great action right now.
Hank's trying to block the leaf blower. They survived.
Jerry's still got him.

This is really the dumbest thing ever, but it's so funny.

Hank's trying to block.

Hank and Max are blocking the lead lower. With his body.

They're doing a good job.

Yeah, this is good teamwork.

You know what?

Hank and Max, they seem like they've learned a lot from the 9-11 hijackers.

Yes, I'd say so.

I'd say so.

All right, they're fighting back. Yep, there we go.
That's's mark walberg right there does he have a box cutter no good uh okay yeah so i i think that i think it's a uh seahawks trap i don't i don't think i'm getting trapped i think i think the 49ers are obviously the best team in the nfc and when they've got their guys when they've got their guys back they they're the best team in the NFL.

I just think that 10.5 points is a lot of points.

I don't think that the Seahawks are going to win this game.

They're not going to win this game. But they look frisky enough on the road in Dallas on Thursday night

that I'm like, they should not be 10.5 point underdogs.

Exactly.

Trapped.

They shouldn't be.

Trapped.

I think you're getting trapped.

No.

Everything you explained is the trap. I saw them on national television playing well.
Yeah, exactly. The most recent game that I saw in the Seahawks.
It's the perfect amount where you're like, they don't have to even be close. Yeah.
Back to me on 10. Yeah, no, you could.
That is open. All right.
Nerd Nugget. Seahawks wide receiver DK Metcalf needs one reception and 88 yards to become the third player in NFL history to reach 50 catches, 900 yards, and five touchdowns in each of his first five seasons.
Randy Moss, AJ Green. He was awesome on Thursday night.
I'm faster than him. It was great to see that.
You are facts. All right, last game.
Crown Jewel. Eagles and Cowboys.
Eagles have been outgained by 100 yards in the last five games,

five straight games.

Yeah, they've been winning some close ones.

Yeah.

I also think this is the battle of fraud defenses.

Okay.

So the Eagles, that's the stat with the Eagles.

They've been outgained 100 yards in the last five games.

The Cowboys defense, I was looking it up.

I was getting into the weeds.

So they've given up 220 points.

In five of those games, they gave up 40 total points.

Those five games were against the Patriots, the Panthers, the Giants twice, and the Jets.

Those four teams are the four last teams in offense in the NFL. So in five games this year against those teams, they've given up eight points per game.
In the other seven games, they're giving up 27 points. Yeah, they beat up on bad teams.
Right. Cowboys crush bad teams.
I love this over. I really don't know.
This is kind of a maybe we'll go back back to the mincy, like perfect spread. Because I kind of wanted the Cowboys, but now it's three and a half.
Good job, Vegas. Good job.
Like three and a half makes you scared. You look at three and you're like, ooh, that's yummy.
And then three and a half, you're like, oh, I don't want that. The hook dangling out there.
Because then you know for certain you're going to lose because of that half point. Yes.
We should talk about Mike McCarthy and his health adventure he's been through this week he had appendicitis he had a swollen appendix they removed it he said he's going to coach free diet free diet yeah because he just lost his appendix he lost two pounds mike mccarthy might not have been fat yeah maybe his appendix had just been gradually bursting and growing for the last 15 years yeah and they're going to take it out he's gonna be hot he's like violet bogart he's gonna have a six-pack yeah so mccarthy i i could see him also using the appendix as a motivational tool like have it in a jar smash it smash his appendix get his guts i'm spilling my guts for you guys i'm getting my guts on all these players so i was i was wondering how this would play into it and i asked uh our good friend will compton and Kyle Long, who were here today, and they said that it's this late in the season, it actually would maybe be good because it's like substitute teacher energy where it's like the defensive coordinator and offensive coordinator are now running the practices. It kind of makes it loose like, oh, you think you're going to be the head coach? Oh, you're not the head coach.
So kind of like a fun vibe that they can get out of this i would also like it if mike mccarthy coached this game from a hospital bed it would be great you freeze that yeah you freeze it like up in the suite next to jerry maybe jerry's there like manning his iv telling him what plays to call yeah that would be awesome you also it might be it might be a good thing if mike mccarthy doesn't coach if you have dan quinn like, I mean, that throw that they made on third down on Thursday night to stop the clock, like, Mike McCarthy still does some really stupid shit. That's what I was saying at the start of the show on Friday was no one's going to talk about that because they ended up winning the game.
But that very easily could have cost them the game. Yeah.
That was how many – he gave them, like, 40 seconds. It's crazy.
here's 40 seconds for free mike mccarthy also i saw someone uh pose this but he he is in the running for like one of the best regular season coaches of all time i want to see what his record is i'm looking it up right now scrolling scrolling head coaching record here it is oh no 164 and 100 that's pretty good pretty good. That's pretty good.
That's not best of all time. Regular season.
Okay, Nerd Nugget. Philadelphia is 3-0 on Sunday Night Football under Nick Sirianni, which is the longest active streak of SNF wins in the NFL.
The Eagles have won each of their last two games versus Dallas on SNF. Okay.
So, three games in a row. Although the Cowboys, Dak has actually beaten the Eagles more.
He has a better record against the Eagles than you would imagine. I actually thought the way that they lost the Eagles earlier this year was perfect because the Cowboys played good enough to beat the Eagles in the game.
Dak played awesome, had a great game, and then just stepped out of bounds barely, just by a little bit, bit two yards shy where it will just drive you insane and people be like see Dak sucks he stepped out of bounds when in reality he played an awesome game and they'll all forget about that and be like oh well he cost us at the last minute that's the perfect way in my opinion for any Dallas Cowboys loss to occur remember that game too when we were watching it it The Cowboys were just able to get yards a lot easier than it felt like the Eagles were. Just go to CD.
And they were just kind of ripping them up in the middle. Jake Ferguson has also been very, very good and has kind of changed their offense a little bit.
I'm going to look it up real quick. The Cowboys-Eagles game from earlier this year.
Wow, they played a lot longer ago than I realized.

Was it like four weeks ago, three weeks?

Yeah, it was week nine.

November 5th.

That's a long time ago.

Yeah, the Cowboys had 406 yards to the Eagles 292.

Okay.

Wait, did you do the Nernaga? Yeah, he did. Okay, that was a great preview, boys.
Didn't think we were going to get into 9-11. Sean McDermott just got a weird spot.
Schefter just tweeted the article, too, so it's official. Yeah, it's official.
Oh, well, I mean, he did a press conference talking about it, so he clearly knew. That must have sucked for Sean McDermott to be like, any day they could say the 9-11 story.
Yeah, I just got a notification. McDermott addresses 9-11 comments.
Bill's coach said he regretted comments that he made during a team meeting. This does feel like a fake article.
The entire thing feels fake, but it's real, which is crazy. Yeah, that really is insane.
Okay. What do you think Aaron Rodgers would say about that? Actually, they didn't work that hard together because it was the cia yeah it's wild wild uh okay picks let's do it five weeks to go 10 picks remaining for the opening act jake 16 and a half pf excuse me memes 15 max 14 close so yes very close for the main event big cat 17 and a half pft 16 hank 11 and a half okay hank is four and a half points out with 10 to play i mean anything.
I'm not safe. That's what we're looking at.
Big Cat, you're not safe. No, no.
You can't expect to be safe. But Hank, yeah, he went 0-2 last week, and Big Cat went 2-0.
He should be miserable doing that. The opening act is wide open, any of us.
It could happen, too. And then Pancakes.
Big Cat, would you like to report your change? Big Cat had a transactional change. So McGlinchey got hurt.
No, Caleb McGarry. McGarry got hurt, so I've picked up Moses.
Morgan Moses. Morgan Moses.
I'm really on top of this. Football team.
So here's the standings with five weeks to go. Hank continues to dominate with 44 pancakes.
Good for him. He needs a win.
Max, 34. PFT and I tied with 31.
Big Cat, 25. Memes, 24.
All right. I think that's going to be a fun video, too, because we're all going to be participating.
Yeah, except for the person who has to eat 24 pancakes. I don't know if you can.
18 is really tough, too. Third place is premium.
Yeah. Where's third place? 24 is going to take a long-ass time.
It's 0, 3, 6, 12, 18, 24. I want to get 12.
12 pancakes would be the best. Right now, PFT, me and you are tied for third and fourth.
We'd probably just split it and do nine each, right? Sounds good. That'll be another stream that we'll get for everyone.
I was thinking about it. We should probably – we can just have Chef Donnie make his pancakes.
Yeah. That way we can do it here.
Oh, yeah. Get a couple tall stacks.
Yeah. Dermot will show me how to attack them.
Chef Donnie made French toast for for the guys for the stream today. It smelled so good.
Yeah. I can't remember.
Is it just 24 pancakes straight or is it the deal like- I think we're doing the hours thing. Yeah, the hours thing.
Yeah. Right.
So, all right. So that's not- Yeah, you could sit, eat 12 pancakes in 12 hours.
That still would suck. It depends on the size and the fluffiness.
And then the people who have to do six in, what is it, six, 12?

Zero, three, six, 12, 18, 24.

So the people who can do the other, as soon as they finish their pancakes,

they can leave.

Yep.

Yeah.

That's pretty good.

In Hank's case, most likely, zero.

Yeah, so he can hang out and just make fun of us.

He needs that.

He needs a win like that.

Okay, Memes, will you be ready to eat pancakes if we have to do it? Oh, yeah. This punishment rules.
I don't think it does. I think you're very wrong.
I have eaten. I once tried to eat 10 pancakes just on a bet, and it was hard.
Yeah, 10 pancakes is a lot. I think 12, though, you get to have two meals.
You split it up into six and six, and you just hang out with the boys, eat pancakes. I like that idea.
It's technically kind of another 24-hour stream. Could be stream could be could be yeah i mean you don't eat any pancakes you have to sit in that room for 24 hours it would be kind of funny to eat just one pancake yeah just be like i'd rather i'm on a diet i'd rather just hang out interact with the chat yeah um okay also they submitted their pick since they're not on the show right now they they also only gave one pick each So should we give them their picks? Oh, so they're just doing like a, is this a silent?

Uh. So they submitted their pick since they're not on the show right now.
They also only gave one pick each. So should we give them their picks?

Oh, so they're just doing like a silent protest?

Well, we can talk to them, right?

Get their picks right now?

All right, so let's do – they both get a pick,

and then we'll do all of our picks, and then they can just pick something random.

Okay, so Hank has the Chiefs minus one and a half against the Bills.

He probably knew about the 9-11 thing. He did.
And then Max has his Eagles plus three and a half against the Cowboys. Okay, so who's up first? I believe PFT.
I'm going to take I'm going to take the Browns minus three at home. Against the Jags? Yep.
Like it. Like it.
Okay. I'm going to take the Niners minus ten and a half against the Seahawks.
I think they really separate themselves from the rest of the league. I'm getting trapped, Jake.
Okay. We'll see.
Okay. Memes? I think Max would be up here.
No, we're just going to go to them at the end for their two picks. Okay.
Because they were asked to give two picks. They just didn't.
They also didn't have their phones. All right.
Well, we'll let them just pick Rams. Eagles, Cowboys over 51 and a half.
I wanted that. I wanted that bad.
All right. So I got two.
I'll do Bears plus three and a half.

And I'll do Bucs Falcons over 40 and a half.

That was the game.

Remember, it was like 1917, but there was seven turnovers in the red zone the first time.

I think they had like 700 yards of offense or something crazy like that.

Okay, Memes, going back around to you.

Colts plus one. Okay.
I see one and a half. I'll take one and a half.
I'll take one and a half. Memes has stayed up.
He deserves that half a point. I'm going to take Texans-Jets under 33 and a half.
Okay, you didn't have to say it like that.

Really hit the under hard.

Yeah.

PFT?

Zach Wills.

I am going to take...

It's down between two for me right now.

I'm going to take the over in the Rams Ravens. 39 and a5.
I like it. Okay, you can wire us in, Shane.
We'll ask them for their last two picks. Are all their picks there? Yeah, no one took any of their picks.
Yeah. Yeah, they have their first two.
Yeah, so I'll just say them. Yeah.
Memes, excuse me, Max took Indianianapolis cincinnati over 43 and a half and hank has oh they they did do picks they did yeah yeah but like if if you wanted something oh okay i misunderstood shane don't put us in we don't need to talk they didn't send a backup got it got it none of us took them got it they sent one pick so if you had it you got it got it yeah so max took colt bengals over 43 and a half and hank has broncos chargers under 40 okay so it worked out perfect yeah no overlaps i was confused uh all right we got two interviews we're not doing fantasy fuck boys this week because we don't have hank be back next week uh we have two great interviews we're going to start with gronk our good friend gronk and then bart scott who uh i like bart scott he gets fired up i want to see him and Shady McCoy do a show he gets takes takes takes he gets fired up we got him a little fired up he doesn't understand the butt fumble though yeah the butt fumble he still doesn't got it we were we couldn't have explained it better yeah still doesn't got it okay so these interviews are brought to you by our friends at body armor PMT is always brought to to you by Body Armor. Real hydration, real ingredients packed with electrolytes, vitamins, and nothing artificial.
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Okay. Here he is, Rob Gronkowski.
Okay. We now welcome on one of our good friends, multiple-time recurring guest.
It is future Hall of Famer Rob Gronkowski, and he's with us because he's hosting a bowl game, the L.A. Bowl, December 16th, Boise State, UCLA.
Gronk, great to see you. First question, what the hell does it mean to host a bowl game? What does thisail yes what's up guys great to be back on the show I love you guys love your show and on top of that man it's a special moment for me when I got the you know the LA Bowl brought to me the interest of me hosting it it definitely triggered something because my last game at the University of Arizona that I played in it was was actually in this bowl game when it was in Las Vegas.
It was a conference matchup, the same conference matchup in Las Vegas. It was the first bowl game the University of Arizona went to in 10 years.
And we beat BYU, who was ranked number 17th in the country at the time. And Willie Tutama, our quarterback, who's going to be at the bowl game, actually, the L.A.
Bowl. He lives in San Diego now, so he's driving up.
He threw for over 300 yards. My brother Chris, who was a fullback, had a touchdown up the middle.
I didn't have a touchdown, which was rare for me in college, but that's all right because we beat BYU. And now it's a full circle moment because this game is now in L.A.
It's the last game I played in at the University of Arizona. Now I'll be hosting the bowl game that I last played in.
So that's pretty special, man. It's a special moment.
And that's what really got me to host this bowl game for sure. I love it.
And it's very cool. I can only imagine like you thinking back to all the touchdowns you did score with those teammates you had.
Now you're now you're hosting the event. As far as hosting the event goes, though, what does that entail? What is hosting a bowl game mean mean do you just are you just getting the party started yes that's exactly what it means i'm going to get the party started also you got to go on a little promotion tour so i'm here doing the little promotion tour going on a couple shows promoting the bowl game to get people there we got boise state versus ucla which is going to be a great game but then on top of it when it, when it really matters, is bringing the attitude to the game, bringing the atmosphere of energetic type of atmosphere to the game as well.
And obviously, I've got to perform. I can't just host a game and show up and wave, kiss babies.
I've got to perform. And this is where I've got to talk to you, Big Cat, because I know that you've done some special things.
I will be singing the national anthem at this bowl game as well. And I have watched you about four or five times in my life sing the national anthem at the rowdy fights that you guys held, also other couple events.
So can you please give me a tip, Big Cat, on what I need to know when I freaking sing this national anthem and light up the whole arena. Okay, so can you sing?

No, I cannot sing.

I was on the Masked Singer, and I beat Lil Wayne in the first round

and Shaka Khan in the second round,

and I think it was because of my dance moves.

But then after that, I was voted off.

But they're also helping me out because I did sing for them.

I did sing for the committee.

Julian Edelman was there and told me he needs 10 more shots for me to continue singing because it was so bad but they got the new directions veterans choir to sing with me so it's kind of like they're helping me out they don't want me to fail yeah i got a good base around me okay so i guess my only tip would be um you got to have someone hold up the words just in case you freeze up because i've screwed up the words before. And that's the worst feeling in the world that people take the national anthem very seriously.
So maybe someone just, you know, maybe have Gordy just standing behind the camera with a big cue card. You ready to go? You know, that is a good point.
I was already thinking about that. And sometimes they put the national anthem like in the NFL games.
I saw it. They put it up on the jumbotron just so everyone can sing along.
But really, it's for the person that's singing the national anthem. So I'm going to have them do that.
Thank you. It's like you obviously – everyone knows the national anthem, but it's like little stuff, like bombs bursting in air, not through air, and like that stuff.
Like I had – the first one I ever did was the Windy thunderbolts when dave and i went out and tried out for the team and i think i said through air instead of in air and i had like a world war ii navy vet come up to me after he's like you messed up the anthem and i was like oh fuck never again never again will i mess up one word you're never going to get usaa if you screw that up yeah yeah and you're a vet you know i gotta get usaa and that's very true i 100 i've been trying to get i even jumped out of the plane at the air force base on fox freaking three weeks ago and then one of the cadets was there he's like you deserve usaa i was like i know i do and then he's like but you haven't served yet he goes how about you marry my sister you'll get usaa that and. And I was like, oh, man.
Hey, whatever it takes.

I need to do that.

Maybe singing the national anthem will get me there now.

That might do it.

Or you could just go overseas and just fight in a war on your own.

Just be like, hey, Gronk's here.

I'm just trying to get that good insurance.

Yo, what if I did serve for our country and I went over, I was in Afghanistan,

I was freaking in the Army tank shooting freaking rockets out of it.

All that good stuff. That would be pretty badass.
Yeah. That'd be sweet.
You might be too tall for a tank, though. Yeah, it's close quarters in there.
Julian Edelman would fit perfectly in it. Yeah, a little tiny guy.
Yeah. They would specialize.
They would get in the factory right now and do a specialized tank for myself. I think Gronk tank.
Gronk tank would rock. That would be sick.
So we're not going to ask you if you're retired because I know that you are retired, but I will ask you another football-related question about your time in the league. Specifically, spending so much time around Bill Belichick, there's been a lot of smoke out there about Belichick maybe taking a different coaching job next year.
A lot of people are having the conversation about the Washington Commanders for Bill Belichick. Would you be surprised to see him go go to a different team i would be surprised for him to go to a different team i mean it would just be really weird first off and just be weird just seeing him on another team i mean he's been with new england for so long i kind of feel like yeah this season's really rough but um he is still one of the greatest coaches of all time there's no doubt about that i mean i played for him i learned from him he helped develop me to be the player that i all time.
There's no doubt about that. I mean, I played for him.
I learned from him. He helped develop me to be the player that I was.
There's no doubt about that. And if he's not one of the greatest coaches of all time, he is the greatest coach of all time.
He knows his football inside and out. I saw it firsthand every single day.
There's no doubt about that. But just to see him on another team would be really weird.
I believe he's really grandfathered claws in with in with the New England Patriots. I mean, he would have to have like another year, like this year, next year, for them to finally be like, all right, it's time, let's move on.
But I truly believe that he will be here next year. But if he does go to another team like the Washington Commanders, I mean, it doesn't really rival with the New England Patriots, kind of like when we went to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
It's not like we went to the Miami Dolphins or the Buffalo Bills. So it would have to be a team like that where it doesn't have any beef with the Patriots.
So the commanders, I would say, would be a team he would go to. But I just don't see that happening after this year.
I think he'll definitely have another year to redeem himself. Yeah.
So you are retired, but when was the last time you got a phone call and it could be from tom brady i would assume when tom brady thinks like people maybe kick the tires on him he's like well i got to make sure that gronk's also coming too yes well no i haven't got a call from tom the last time i talked to him though was actually yesterday he sent me a clip of our playoff touchdowns and he go and he wrote to me bro no one done it like us i was like bro those are some badass clips that actually got me and i haven't really realized like we were freaking badass we were if not the best duo to do it in the game my man i mean watching the highlights now ain't no one doing like what we did back in the day uh there's no doubt about it we played physical football football. We played smart football like no one else does.
We grinded our way out of situations whenever we needed to. But on top of that, I got a call from like two teams this year in the offseason, but, you know, I just wasn't interested.
I mean, they were great teams. It would have been a great situation, but I just wasn't ready to go.
So the Bills who else? No, it wasn't the bills. No, no.
Well, first off, I mean, it's kind of out there. It was the, the giants because of Brian Dable.
He was my position coach for three years here and I loved having him as my position coach, man. He was just a great guy, great attitude, brought the juice to the table every single time.
But I mean, he knew it was kind of like a home run. He, every once in a while and he's like yo come on come out come with us you and uh darren waller you guys would be a great duel and i was like i know we would be but bro i'm good i'm all done i got 11 years in the league freaking four superbowls six times went to the superbowl a lot of crazy action off the field as well up in the New England area.
So, did it all, man.

Very satisfied with my career. And then what

was the other team? Oh, the

other team.

Oh, man. I don't even

want to say it. No, you got to say it.
Come on.

We can guess.

NFC or AFC?

NFC or AFC?

What's that? NFC or AFC?

AFC. Alright, we got three guesses.
I got one. The Raiders.
All right, you hit it right on the top. Oh, no! That wasn't too hard.
Yeah, that was actually really easy. Josh, call Josh.
I mean, that's an easy one. You got McDaniels over there when he was there.
I know the offense. So, I mean, that was an easy guess, my man.
You got it right on. Do you think you would have been able to play in Las Vegas? Yeah, I would have been able to play.
Not at the beginning of my career, but I would have been able to play in Las Vegas now. I can block all that mayhem stuff out now.
So you are retired. Have you had the moment yet? Because it's like there's not many guys that retire and it's just a guarantee first ballot hall of famer have you had that thought like hey three years from now or whatever it might be three four years I can't remember what what the exact date is like you're gonna get the knock on the door it's gonna be a pretty fucking crazy moment it's gonna be a really crazy moment man it still really hasn't hit me and I think it's still really weird to me because I'm so young.
And if I never came back out of retirement, went to the Bucs, and I just stayed retired, it would actually be this year that if I went first ballot, I would actually be going into Hall of Fame right now, and I'm just 34 years old. And that would have been, like, super, super weird.
So, like, I think, like, because that's, like, a moment that you want to cherish when you're older. So, like, it still really hasn't hit me because I'm, like, just 34.
There's guys still playing the league that are my age right now currently as well. So, maybe it'll hit me in, like, a year or two.
I mean, I just went into the Hall of Fame at the University of Arizona. They just put me in the Sports Hall of Fame there a couple months ago, last month, actually.
So, that was a good start, man. That was a little, you know, kick to, you know, get that feeling of what it's like.
Sounds like you have to have a kid. You got to have a kid before you go in the Hall of Fame.
Then you can hold your baby. It does sound like that, man.
First off, I've got a dog who's just chilling right next to me. He's kind of like my first kid.
He's getting me ready for a real kid. But, man, I would love to have a little Gronk running around, just going crazy.
My brother's, oh, I am actually an uncle, and what is it, an uncle and let's see one where you have a nephew i'm an uncle you're an aunt oh nine so i'm it no i'm not an aunt wait you have you have nine nephews nine nephews nine nephews no seven nephews two nieces or three nieces there's to be so many Gronks in the world. Oh, my God, that's a scary thing.
Bro, let me tell you, they're legends. They're athletic.
They're going to be the next generation of Gronk athletes as well. I'm super excited to see them.
It gets me juiced every time I watch them. And one day, I won't be having a little Gronk running around.
You ever have baby Gronk running around? Yeah. Oh, yeah, what are you thoughts? Risen up Libby don what yeah what went through your head when baby grok was all over the news for like that week you remember that week yeah that that was just crazy man and uh i actually followed baby grok when i was doing a little autograph signing the guy the autograph guy was like yo you see this baby grok guy and i'm like no i haven't he's like you should follow him it's kind of funny and this was like way before he blew up and it was like kind of funny stuff and I was like oh that's cool but then he just took it to a whole freaking another level bro like whatever a couple months ago and I like it kind of blew my mind I was like I mean I'm not kind of here to support that I think it's just too young of an age to just see what they're doing I mean some of the material was freaking pretty funny like funny.
Like, did you see when they posted his mom, if that was really his mom? Yeah. It was the most outrageous picture.
I lost my mind. Like, the cleavage was just sticking out.
It was just so out of control. And I wasn't even sure if it was his mom or not.
But I would say just maybe they took it to a little bit too far of a level. And it's kind of like setting your kid up for failure, I would say, a because like you don't know they're so young he's like 10 or 12 years old so let kids be kids the dad like feeding him all the lines and stuff that was a little uncomfortable we're a little uncomfortable we're baby digs guys anyway i don't know if you've seen baby digs yeah i did i did that was pretty cool too yeah baby dig, Baby Diggs is a man.
Baby Diggs rocks. Yeah.
Sorry.

So, Gronk, you're crushing it in media now.

You're everywhere.

We all kind of figured you would be because of your personality.

How's it been, though, like transitioning to media,

being you have to watch games like we watch games.

Not so easy, right?

Like we've always said that watching all the games might be harder than playing in the game. I 100% agree with that.
Watching all the games is harder than playing in the game. You've got to know about every player.
You've got to know about every team. And that's why I'll never be a commentator as well.
You've got to be way too into it. I'm way too busy, man.
And I love the game of football, but I don't see myself, you know, commentating on games. That's why I like the job that I have being an analyst.
And I'm also part time. I just signed a new deal with Fox where I just do about 10 to 12 of them a year.
So I don't have to fly out to L.A. every single time.
And I got all the playoff games as well. But it is a job, man.
I'm actually impressed with what you guys do, how you guys are tweeting out info, knowing what's going on, knowing the players, knowing the stats. It's impressive, man.
You got to be fully into it to actually understand what's going on truly. And it is work, man.
And that's why I'm just an analyst. So because you can pick it up, you can kind of like kind of watch the game and then, you know, throw your thoughts out there as well.
But I feel like it's the perfect job for me that I have right now that I'll stick to yeah one underrated part about what we do and how hard our job is not only do we have to watch every game of football we also have to watch every pregame show yeah and every halftime show and every postgame show and we have to take what you guys say then we have to analyze that too so it's like two jobs we're working like more than full time doing a podcast it's hard yeah and then on top then on top of it, you have to be funny as well. Yeah.
You try that. Ideally.
Yeah. Ideally.
That part's hit or miss. Or you can be so bad sometimes that you become good.
Yeah. That's the other thing about being an analyst is if you're like the loudest, wrongest person, then you're actually good again because people will just argue with you all the time.
I would say that's where I started when I first started with the, with the Fox team. I was so bad.
I was talking about Julian scoring touchdowns and getting that nut in the end zone because he's a squirrel. And that hit off.
It was so bad, but it was so good, man. Yeah.
Did anyone speak to you after that? Were they like, hey, Rob, we like what you're doing. You're pushing the edge a little bit.
But maybe if you could not talk about a player coming on the air, that would be great. No, they loved it, my man.
No one talked to me about it, and I feel like they want more of that type of stuff. I mean, it was clean.
It was clean. Yeah.
You brought up Jules. We haven't seen him in a while.
He's been ducking us. Hopefully, we're going to see him soon.
Is he getting a little chubby? Is he getting a little fat? Jules? Oh, my gosh. I would love to see Jules chubby.
I would just rip on him every single day. Like, man, what happened to you? Because every day in the locker room, he used to walk by with his shirt off.
I'd be like, bro, you boxer rip because Julian is ripped. He got the lungs coming out, the bicep showing.
He like boxer rip where everything's just popping. So if he gets a little chubby, I'd be like, bro, you're not boxer rip no more.
You sumo wrestler rip. Yes, dude.
But I haven't seen him with his shirt off in a while. He used to just post all shirtless pictures on Instagram.
We gave him a lot of shit. The famous Father's Day post where it was just like him with his shirt off catching footballs and his dad kind of like putting his hand in front of him.
And that was the Father's Day post. It was literally like, look at how ripped I am i haven't seen him with his shirt off in a while i actually i actually did see him with his shirt off that week well because he's actually with fox as well he does the pre-game show before ours and sometimes come out comes on ours i sometimes come on his and i saw him change again and uh he actually is still really ripped man but he goes i don't really have i haven't worked out in a while and i was like bro well you super ripped for working out for a while so yeah he's gonna back into it but uh i i i'm actually for it to for him to get chunky that'd be pretty funny it'd be very awesome he would look so fat with the beard too oh just go outside he looked like jersey jerry if yeah it'd be awesome great it'd be great uh grok so i'm curious to know you've been out of the league for a little bit um you were a guy that loved physical contact you liked running over people throwing people out of the club do you miss that aspect of it like do you do you have an outlet for you to like physically dominate another person in in your daily life yeah I love doing activities my man I love competing still obviously like cornhole I, I get intense at cornhole, play some pickleball.

I shoot the basketball around, three-point games and all that.

But I would say that aggression came from when I was a kid, man.

I was at three older brothers, one younger.

We have about 20 other kids on our street.

They were all older than myself, and I was always competing with them,

playing tackle football at seven years old versus 10-year-olds,

taking them out still.

Got tons of beatings when I was a kid.

Charlie horses every single day.

So I was kind of a guy that just fiended for the pain.

Thank you. ball at seven years old versus 10 year olds taking them out still got tons of beatings when I was a kid charlie horses every single day so I was kind of a guy that just fiend for the pain fiend for the hitting and I feel like I was numb to the pain as well because of my childhood that's why I just loved aggression of the game that's why I could just hit someone and it was like nothing I could just keep on going my man yeah but you but you don't have any of that right now like you don't do mixed martial arts you don't wrestle no not nothing really like that man i mean i think it's finally out of me took about 30 plus years to get out of me but i still grind still get that lift in still run a little bit but that like true aggression of trying to hit someone i'm just saving it if someone tries to cheap shot me so i'm ready just to knock them right out yeah yeah's pen up.
We got to get you to our new office in Chicago because it's like it's a gronk like, you know, toy land for you. We got a basketball court.
Are you guys still in New York? Yeah, we still have an office in New York. We have one in Chicago too.
We have like a full basketball court, like tons of games and shit. Y'all, you would love it.
You just, we just get you wrestling. There we go.
I'd come there. I'd play some basketball, shoot three-pointers, and throw down some serious dunks.
Oh, you can dunk? Oh, I can dunk like a madman right now, bro. Oh, I like that.
I like that. Hey, when you close your eyes and you think about one touchdown or one game, what game is that? The game, I would say, is the first Super Bowl that we won because it put me in the Super Bowl club, you know, winning the Super Bowl.
Also, the game was legendary versus Seattle, obviously, with the Malcolm Butler interception. And just overall, the game was just crazy, the up and downs.
And then the catch, I would say, would be the one-handed catch, two of them versus the Broncos. When I just put my hand up, Tom threw it behind me.
I brought it down to two. And then also the one-hander versus Bills uh my hometown team went um so it was just special to do it against them and it was at Gillette State I just put my hand out like that on the one Tom threw it back there I just brought it right in for a touchdown so the one handers always stick out yeah it's a nice would you say um I'm gonna look up the stats right now because I can't think about it offhand but I feel like like just remembering games, I feel like your best game was in a loss.
That AFC Championship game against the Broncos was the best game you ever played because you were just everything. Yeah, I would definitely say it was one of my best games.
What was crazy is I think I got food poisoning from the night before I showed up to the game, and I was feeling like complete poo, man. I wanted to throw up everywhere, but I just got my wheels turning, my engine going when we started.
And I remember it was fourth and 10 in the huddle. I'm pretty sure Tom got a screen pass called in.
And it was fourth and 10 on our own 30-yard line. And it was like, what, 45 seconds left in the game.
And I was feeling the game, though, by then. I've already had a good game.
And Tom looks at me, and I'm like, bro, what's a screen pass? Like, let's call something where I can make a play. And he calls us all goes.
And I run right by double coverage. And one of the guys was Chris Harris, all pro DB.
So these guys are running like four threes. I turned up the notch a little bit at 260 pounds and ran right by the little guy.
He threw a bomb about 40 in the air I brought it down on fourth and 10 to save the season uh for the Patriots at that moment so whenever it came to clutch plays man that's what I live for man I live for clutch moments um like that and then down there too fourth and goal on the goal line Tom threw it in double coverage again jumped over the guy for the touchdown and unfortunately I was open on the two-point conversion to tie the game, but we won't talk about that, man. Yeah, I just looked it up.
Eight for 144 and a touchdown. That was the game that Dave didn't account for the air.
That was his big excuse after. He's like, I didn't account for the air.
Because he booked Airbnb in San Francisco for the entire week before you guys even got to the AFC championship game. And then he was like, fuck, I have to pay for this whole Super Bowl house.
And I didn't account for the air. Is that why we lost? It might have.
He didn't account for the air. Well, on that note, how much credit do you give Dave Portnoy for the Patriots' success throughout the years? I think he would probably give him, he puts himself up there.
Well, I guess Robert Kraft said, yeah, Hank.

So it was like a Belichick, Brady, Portnoy.

That's what Kraft said.

So between Portnoy and Hank,

how much credit do you think they deserve for the Patriots dynasty?

I would say Dave deserves a lot of credit.

No doubt about it.

I mean, the guy kind of put the Patriots on the map in some great ways.

I mean, he grew up, like I always said, Portnoy started like at the same time as I. We were kind of like rookies together, and we both grew with the Barstool brand and my brand.
At the same time, we were both blossoming. I was a big fan of Barstool.
Barstool was a big fan of me. You guys were writing the craziest articles about me throughout the beginning of my career, and we were loving every moment.
We would read them in the locker room and stuff, and we'd be laughing our ass off doing it as well so port and i you know definitely a huge patriot fan definitely helped put the patriots just on the map even more than than the patriots were on the map so i gotta give some serious credit to him man um i would say i mean mr kraft is right you know he's number three in line how can you argue with yeah well well with with Hank, you remember Hank got arrested for Tom Brady going through the flake gate. Hank locked himself in the lobby of the NFL League office.
What was your reaction when you saw the Barstool guys chaining themselves in an act of civil disobedience going to jail for your quarterback? You know, that's why I loved you guys even more at that moment. When I saw Hank do that, I mean, I knew all in as a patriot fan and that's a true patriot fan that he's willing to go to jail to represent the patriots and to represent tom brady so i love you guys i love you hank for doing that and also gave us entertainment as well because it's a grind man you know it's a grind with the media as well sometimes always you know on top of us and to see something like that in the media with you guys, to see Hank doing that, it's kind of a relief.
And it was funny, man. We love Hank for it.
I don't know if the story ever got told. I think it probably did in one of the documentaries.
But Gronk was – he actually – there's people out there who went to – when we did the blackout parties, you don't realize it, but Gronk was there with the mascot hat on mascot hat on dancing on the stage so you saw it I was at a couple blackout parties uh about two of them all my friends always went to them before as well I went to one in Tampa I put the mask on and I'd be dancing on the stage like a maniac I remember we have a bottle of like vodka too on the side that we'd be pounding underneath the mask as well so we're definitely good under that mask and just going absolutely ham i mean those parties definitely fit me when i was uh what 23 years old on the patriots i mean those were the best times for sure man no doubt about it yeah yeah uh i was gonna say looking around the league right now who's the who's the actual baby gronk in the league we like to always anoint the next big tight end like oh this guy's next Rob Gronkowski but like from your opinion who's the guy that plays the game most similarly to you because there can't be another Gronk but if there's a guy that's next in line in that vein who would it be I'm gonna go with the guy from Detroit right now he's a rookie Sam Laporta um I mean he brings it to the table I mean he's having a great rookie year I mean a rookie year like that in the tight end position, a lot of tight ends don't have good rookie years because it's a tough position to play and to understand. He's got to block and catch as well.
But Sam Porta is bringing it to the table. He's fast.
He's got great hands on the run. He breaks tackles as well.
He can line up out wide, do the slants, all that good stuff. And he's willing to block as well.
I won't say he brings it to the table like like i do in the blocking but i would say he brings out he's the most similar guy that's up and coming that kind of represents my game as well that is something like you you i mean you were such a tremendous blocker and i think that you know there's a lot of tight ends now uh that are more pass catchers but like or like a kiddo is like he blocks his ass off like watching great you know i just called him him Greg Kittle because we make a joke about that. But like those guys who could do everything, it really is like they're the best athletes on the field.
Yeah, definitely, man. And I took pride in my blocking, that's for sure.
I mean, I always was focusing on the blocking every single practice, especially my second year in the league. That's when I really, really learned how to block.
And actually my first year as a rookie, because that's what got me on the field. Because I was so-so in the pass game at the moment, I actually couldn't remember the plays in the pass game.
So that's why I really didn't have that much, you know, targets my rookie year until halfway through the year, finally all clicked. But they loved my blocking and willing to block.
And also I knew it would garner much respect from all the other players, willing to, you know, sacrifice and get dirty in the trenches. And that's what I did, man.
I loved it. And I go back now and I watch some of these highlights.
So like when Steven Ridley beat or whatever, ran against Kevin Hart and tore his, when Kevin Hart tore his oblique or whatever in his stomach. So then the NFL posted that on their Instagram.
And then they posted some highlights of Steven Ridley running the ball. And then I saw some of my blocks just from Stephen Ridley running the ball, some random plays.
And, like, there was three plays in a row that they showed. And each time I took my DN, and I just tossed them back, like, five yards and right to the ground.
And I was like, holy shit, baby. Like, no way.
That's how I was blocking. I mean, I was a fucking dog, bro.
And I loved it it and i'm sure that's why a lot of my teammates respect me because i love grinding like that i love having

the big hits it was just as good as scoring a touchdown yeah awesome i also love the fact that

that tom brady texted you with a highlight reel and just like hey remember how awesome we were

yeah that's pretty cool because like that's what like fans do that to each other like i could see

a patriots fan just like texting hank on a random day like remember how awesome brady and gronk were

but you're actually looking at that and you're like,

Thank you. Because that's what fans do that to each other I could see a Patriots fan just texting Hank on a random day Remember how awesome Brady and Gronk were? But you're actually looking at that and you're like, yeah, we were pretty good I was like, bro, we were legit And then I was like, we were the best to do it, no doubt about it The best tool to do it, there's no doubt I was like, I'm watching football now Ain't no one did it like we did, baby What do you think is your funniest play that you've ever had? Because there are two that come to mind.
There's one where you just laughed in the guy's face and did the Gronk spike, where you did the big ha-ha-ha-ha-ha spike. And then there was one against Ryan Kerrigan where he tried to tackle you, and he probably weighs like 285 pounds.
And he just grabbed the back of your shirt and kind of tried to sit down, and you just ran him into the end zone like he was a sled behind you. But you've got a lot of very plays so in your opinion what's the funniest all right bro those are those are two good ones right there and i got two for you one of them was versus stealers i caught a first down pass up the seam i was laying on the ground and i just decided to put my hand back for it at the first down marker laying on the ground like it made me laugh when i saw it in the film room and then another play was versus the the Baltimore Ravens in the playoffs.
I caught another scene pass and the safety came and grabbed me.

And the way he grabbed me, it pulled down my pants and my ass cheeks were hanging out.

And his face was like right against my ass cheeks.

My ass was showing in the game.

And there's a picture of it on the internet.

If you just type it into Google, like Grant Baltimore Ravens ass guy or whatever it is. his face is right against it man and it's it's oh my god it's so good that's so good he literally is right in your ass that's so funny yeah he definitely got to get that framed yeah you got to get that framed in your office i do i gotta get that framed in your office.
I do. I've got to get that framed.

No doubt about that.

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All right. So, L.A.
Bowl, December 16th, Boise State, UCLA. Are you going to, I kind of want to see you do the Gatorade bath on the winning coach.
Can you do that for us? I didn't even know that was a possibility. So I'm down to do that.
I mean, if the team is willing to let me do that, if the players are willing to let me do that, then I'm down to get in on that action. No doubt about it.
All right, can we maybe get Chip Kelly wet? That's a good plan, yeah. Yeah.
Are you friends with Chip? I never really met Chip before, man. I faced offers him a couple times, but he sent some great comments about me because I faced him when he was at the University of Oregon.
He was the offensive coordinator there, and I went off that game when we played on my sophomore year for like 150 yards touchdown and like 15 14 catches or so so he remembers it to this day he's had nothing but great things to say about myself and I have nothing but great things to say about him he's had such a great successful year as well but it'll be my first time meeting him yeah he's a good dude he's a good dude um also uh our our uh Booker, who is a big part of our team, Kelly, she's actually on the Zoom right now. She just texted us and said, ask him when he's going to propose.
I would never ask you that, but she wanted me to ask you that. All right.
I like the way you did it, Big Kelly. She's literally on the Zoom.
It wasn't my question. Yes, Camille's lovely.
I love Camille, and it's definitely got to be a possibility very soon i love it yeah because you got to get the kid before the hall of fame yes i gotta get that kid i can't wait till you're you're gonna be the best dad ever oh my god i'm gonna love it man i'm gonna i am gonna be the best dad ever i love that that's a fact have you decided who who you want to induct you into Hall of Fame? Who gives the speech? Dante the Don. Dante the Don.
He can DJ, but he's not going to induct me with the speech. I'm not sure yet.
I haven't thought about that yet, man. That's going to be a tough one.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's going to be a great moment. Well, Gronk, we're always a fan.
Have fun with the LA Bowl. I can't wait to watch you sing the national anthem.
You're the best, and we've got to get you here to Chicago and get you running around and dunking on us. All right.
Next time I'm there, I'm going to come stop in, man. All right.
Love it. Thanks so much, Gronk.
All right, man. Take care, guys.
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so let's let's start there with just the nfl right now it's week 13 um do you have a do you have a take you've been sitting on that we can we can maybe we can talk about a team that you think stinks or a player that you think is is having a bad year let's let's get the people going i don't know if particularly i have a hot take it's's like day by day, right? So, just the NFL is what it is. I think that we thought that the AFC was going to be the powerhouse, but it looks like the NFC is going to be the one that has the most compelling competition.
You look at the Philadelphia Eagles and their lack of being able to stop the run, being dominated by the 49ers. Surprising that Shaq Griffin, Shaq Leonard decided to go over to their side instead of picking Dallas after watching both teams play.
You know, I'd be interested to see, you know, what happens as far as what the contract details are to see if, you know, Philadelphia gave them an extra year that maybe another team didn't give them. You know, I thought that was interesting.
I thought it was the battle where both teams are auditioning for him. And I thought if you look at the audition objectively, I think you would think that Dallas, you know, performed, you know, more admirably than – or more dominant than the Philadelphia Eagles.
I think that Philly may be a team that hasn't played well all year. And, you know, this is kind of the last swan song for them as Dallas is a team that's trending.
You look at Philadelphia as a team that's trying to win in this last window before they have to reboot and find a different window. If you consider the fact that Kelsey's thinking about retirement, you think about Graham, and we know that this is Cox last year as well.
So it's kind of like the last dance where you're trying to see if they can pull one out after playing bad and finding ways to win, but they ran into a juggernaut. And we all know that, you know, when healthy San Francisco is probably one of the most complete teams in all the NFL.
So, so a question about the run defense, cause you did play in the NFL for a very long time and defensive mentality. Is it when it comes to stopping the run, Philadelphia has dudes, Is it a mentality thing? Like is it at this point in the season where you say, hey, guys, we've got to figure out a way to kind of nut up here and stop the run? Or is it, hey, we don't have maybe the linebackers that we need, we don't have the guys behind the front line to schematically be able to stop the run?

I mean, to me, it is the communicators on the second level, right?

You talk about, you know, in the world of RPO game, it's about the linebackers being able to understand.

That's why Shaq may not be what he once was, but, you know,

he's a guy that has played at a high level.

He's seen a lot of football, understands, you know, formations,

tendencies, down the distances, tips from linemen, pulling guards, guards sitting off the line of scrimmage, sitting heavy on their fingers. He can help them with that pre-snap recognition.
The D-line can only do their part, but at some point they can scheme getting linebackers up to the second level, and you saw them bludgeon by San Francisco, and that's something that they're going to have to address because if you can't stop the run in the playoffs, you know, where possessions are shorter, where teams find ways to move the sticks, they scheme up. You don't have familiarity with a lot of these teams when you play them because it may be the first time or the second time that you play them, but you don't know them know them because they're not in your division.
And, you know, you don't have that intel that you need. You know, so you need a guy like Shaq Griffin that can kind of man the second level, especially when you talk about an era where you have formations and you have schemes where teams don't go with regular personnel, two tight ends, you know, it's three wide.
So you're stopping, you're stopping the run out of a light box to do that. You need everybody to be a man and a half, not just a man for man, because if you do that, you cancel out and you get to the second level so you need you need war daddies that's gonna sit on the train tracks when the train is coming through so you know kelsey guys like that uncovered guys pulling into the second level you have to understand how to you know stop scoop blocks how to read the shoulders of the running backs and it's it's a bit of a lost art you you have some good linebackers but you can always tell the teams that don't really have high play at that position,

you know, they get taken advantage of.

I love that phrase, man and a half.

War daddy.

I'm going to start calling my – I'm a man and a half, Bart.

Who are your top –

With that shirt, you have to be a man and a half.

I'm almost a man and three quarters right now.

Who are your top –

Unless that's standard uniform or something.

I don't know if that's a uniform.

It is, yeah.

It is, yeah.

This is basically my day-to-day. Who are your top three man-and-a-halves in the NFL? Who? Well, we talk about guys that, you know, I always loved Alvin Thompson out there in Cleveland, right? He's a throwback to the Casey Hampton type of fat boys.
You know what I mean? Guys that's going to hold the jump throughs from getting to the linebackers. That's going to make sure he sits on the double teams to allow his linebackers to flow backwards.

Of course, you can go with, you know, Quentin Williams.

You know, I think his stats don't really show and indicate how dominant he is taking on

double teams and freeing up the linebacker, C.J. Mosley and his brother behind him.

But, you know, you also have to go with Dexter Sexy Dexy.

You know, he plays at a high level.

He's a throwback, a big guy. But you can pick anybody off of, you know, you also have to go with Dexter Sexy Dexy.
You know, he plays at a high level. He's a throwback, a big guy.
But you can pick anybody off of him. You know, Jalen Carter.
You can pick a lot of these war daddies on the other end. You know, that's kind of what it has to be.
You know, you want to have a man for a man, so you have that extra guy to the hole. These are guys that play at high levels.
Chris Jones does it a different way. He's not particularly sitting on it, but he's a one-gap penetrator.
So you got guys that can keep guys off, but then you got the one-gap penetrators like Aaron Donald that gets penetration that forces the running back to cut back where it allows the linebacker to stay square and fall back and understanding that the running back is reading the three technique. So you got to appreciate those type of guys, but I'm sure it's plenty that I'm leaving out.
But it's a lot of guys playing at a high level. Those are the same a few.
As a linebacker, though, I feel like the linebacker position doesn't get talked about as much as it used to. It used to always be you got to have a dude that's your middle linebacker, captain of the defense.
He's the most feared person out there. Now more emphasis is put on, you know, the edge defender, somebody that can get to the quarterback.

But in your opinion, who are the best,

like the most fearsome middle linebackers in the game right now?

I mean, you still got – I'm thinking –

I'm losing my thought of it, the guy out there in San Francisco.

C.J. Mosley plays at a high level.

He's super consistent.

Fred Warner?

Yeah, Fred Warner. Ray Kline Smith, of course.
Bobby Wagner still playing at extremely high level, still getting it done. He's kind of a throwback because now you look at these, you know, linebackers nowadays are 3, you know, 2-2, 35, 240.
He's a throwback to a 250, you know, plus size type of guy. Of course, I like Levante David, all those guys down in Tampa.
They've been one of the most complete, you know, dynamic dudes, I think, in the game for a long time. Their ability not only to be liabilities, they're not liabilities on third down, so they don't take one of them out.
They leave both of them out there. They don't bring in a dying backer, you know, because they trust them against tight ends, which is usually a mismatch in today's game.
So I can really appreciate those guys. And you figure out that you don't have a linebacker.

You only know about a linebacker when you don't have one.

Right.

I mean, where would Buffalo be if they had Milano,

who was playing at an all-pro season,

and he was probably – that defense was drastically better.

He was killing them, right?

One of the guys that kind of pop up is the cat from um i think is it logan or something like that for uh for cincinnati you know i you know i like the way that he mans the middle but you know you think about where where buffalo would be with milano i think they would definitely be a plus two you know in the win column and still sitting in the driver's seat as far as being able to you know uh not be on the outside looking in in this division. It would be a tighter race for sure.
Yeah, you're talking about Logan Wilson on the Bengals. One thing I like about you, Bart, is that you feel like, you know, you played in the league for a long time and you've been in media for a long time, but you hold grudges, and I like that.
I like players that hold grudges. So you hate the Patriots.

How much fun is it?

I don't really hate the Patriots.

I hate Bill Belichick.

Bill Belichick, yeah.

So how much fun has it been to watch this Patriots team be this bad this year?

I mean, listen, I remember, you know,

when the Patriots were playing the Atlanta Falcons, right?

And I can remember trash talking to 12-year-old.

And I told him, listen, you know, take your victory lap now. You have a team.
Of course, he wasn't from, you know, New England, the Boston area, Providence area. He was just a kid that's following the wave.
You know, the same difference like when you look up and you see a bunch of Golden State Warrior fans. You know they're fugazi.
You know they're not real fans. They're just jumping on the wave, the bandwagon, the popular team, right you laugh make you cry so i just want to inform this 12 year old and it's come to fruition a lot earlier than i thought that when 12 retired his life as a patriots fans would be miserable so like all the jerseys that he got enjoy it now right i'm sure the same was was being said when the guarantee happened with the jet fans and jet fans never knew well what lies ahead of them.
Well, I think the same thing lies ahead of the Patriots, right? The Patriots are going to go back. They won in their window, and they dominated.
We'll never see an organization dominate like that again. But for all the people that's not from there, has no reason to be Patriot fans, just jumped on the wave because Tom Brady was popular.
He had Giselle. They're winning Super Bowls.
Now they're going to live in the misery. And now they're going to figure out what it's like to replace Jim Kelly.
They're going to figure out what it's like to try and replace Dan Marino. They're going to see what it's like to try and replace, you know, Joe Namath.
And, you know, that's what I love about football, that it's balanced, right? And the football guys always open the windows and close the windows. And the same thing, the same people that was pounding chest, you know, chest out like a peacock strut and stuff.
You know, it's now going to realize that they got a life full of misery ahead of them because that's pathetic over there. And then they're going to walk away just like, you know, Miami had to walk away from Don Shula.
And at some point, you know, you either you either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain. And pretty soon, Bill Belichick is entering the Sith Lord type of realm where I think that fans are going to start to hate him.
They've realized that the Patriot wave was more about, you know, Tom Brady than it was him. And they realize what they have in the future because he ruined Matt Jones.
And you're going to trust him to pick another quarterback and develop another quarterback and make a defensive coordinator, that offensive coordinator and screw another kid up. You just set yourself up for another five years of mediocrity.
Right. And I'm not sitting here pounding my chest as a Jets fan because, you know, we haven't figured out either.
I mean, you know, Zach Wilson won't be here. I'm sure they'll probably try and take a swing again.
But even a blind squirrel finds a nut and we'll see what team in this division is able able to try and find the answer. For years, it was Buffalo and Miami.
Seems like Miami has found their answer, Tua's found a way. Maybe the jujitsu, he's found a way how to fall softly.
Or maybe he's found out how to get rid of the ball so quick that he can't get hit. But those two guys have their answers, their quarterback.
We have maybe a temporary band-aid on a gunshot wound in Aaron Rodgers. But after that, we'll find ourselves right back where we've always found ourselves searching for a franchise quarterback.
I like how that started. Like, yeah, I don't hate the Patriots.
I just hate Bill Belichick. And then the grudge comes out.
Like I said, I like that. I like when players retire and they're in the media and they're not just going to start, like, you know, sucking everyone off.
It's like I have grudges. I have people I hate.
Well, Bill was asked to me on something that had nothing to do with football. So, like, after my career.
So, like, listen, I'm an equal opportunist asshole. You know what I'm saying? Listen, I'm a can man.
Anybody can get it. I don't care who the hell you are.
So, if he got smoke, we got smoke. So, like, listen, if I see him and he wants some, he can get some.
I don't discriminate. Age discriminate or nothing.
Yeah, you said. I don't rock with him.
I think the quote was you said if Belichick was on fire, you wouldn't piss on him. No, not at all.
You still wouldn't piss on him? No, I'd probably try and stump the fire out. What if he was like, Bart, I'm on fire.
I'm sorry for everything I said.

Can you please piss on me?

I ain't going to be able to do it.

Okay.

That wouldn't feel even a little bit good to just piss on Bill Belichick?

No, I'd rather let him burn.

One thing I also appreciate about you is that you have served kind of as like a realistic point of view for Mike Greenberg.

Because Greeny needs all these emotional support animals around him when the Jets start screwing something up. You tell it like it is to him.
Can we get a status update on Greeny? Is he okay now? I mean, listen, he understands this is a failed season. Before yesterday started, we were talking about how everybody that has a backup quarterback was talking about how everybody that has a backup quarterback was you know we talking about um how everybody that has a backup quarterback um is is you know sucking and you know like nobody's gonna make it and then brownie does what he does last night so we got to kind of hit the refresh button and say you know maybe it is you know something you know to do with the uh play call and in the you know discipline and the development because know, we saw a backup come up yesterday that had, you know, two weeks ago never thrown a pass in the NFL in a regular season game, throw for 300 yesterday.
So, you know, shout out to, you know, Cincinnati, because it looks like they still may find a way to sneak in. Now it depends on who's going to fall first.
Is it going to be Mitch Trubisky as the backup that kind of ruins the Pittsburgh Steelers season, or will Brownie be able to continue to play at this level to find a way to sneak in? It's going to be interesting. Yeah, yeah.
The Jets are this whole Zach Wilson thing too. I mean, where do you side on Zach Wilson saying he might not want to play because of the injury risk? Because it does feel like it's over between Zach Wilson and the Jets, so why would he play? Or do you think that that's kind of a soft move? Well, if he goes with that philosophy, then I think he's going to get a black eye.
Because, listen, he's set up to be – the backup world is already saturated. And if you haven't proved that you can play, then as a backup, you don't have a lot of value.
I mean, Baker Mayfield was a backup. Sam Darn was a backup.
You know, they've accomplished more as a quarterback than Zach Wilson. So, you know, he's going to have to try and find a place.
And the fact that, you know, you kind of gave up on your troops, you know, or it's going to be perceived that you gave up on your troops and you had an opportunity to play football and you decided not to because it was in your best interest. You need to go out there and show that you can play football and you can continue to be a professional because that's the life of a backup.
Backup gets plays. He goes down.
He may be submitted to the practice squad, depending on what the numbers are. So if he doesn't do that and make that decision, it could be detrimental to him as all these coaches talk.
And if he had did everything right, you know, he had went out there, played, did everything he was supposed to do. And now all of a sudden, if he does this, it erases all the good favor that he got from handling the press conference.
Right. We knew it was tough for him to be able to accept the blame.
Most of the blame. Some was his, some was warning, some was just the fact that, you know,

this offense wasn't built for him.

And if it doesn't have Aaron Rodgers in it,

we've never seen it be successful with Nathaniel Hacker

or for anybody that I named Aaron Rodgers.

Yeah.

GMs love to have a guy as a backup quarterback where they can say, like,

this guy's a pro.

This guy's a professional.

And if you do something like saying,

I don't really want to play for the rest of the year,

I don't want to get hurt, I feel like a lot of GMs are going to look at that and be like, we just want a stable backup guy, a humble guy that can come in and keep his mouth shut, do his job. And I feel like Zach Wilson's kind of taking himself out of that market a little bit, in addition to what you said, like never actually being that good in the games.
Well, what about the fact that all the times that the defense still had his back after he had bad performances, they continued to go out there and support him publicly, even though they were frustrated with some of his play. So really, those are the guys that you're telling you, I don't want to get hurt.
Well, what are they saying is they didn't say, hey, I don't want to go out there because Zach can't play. We can't put points up, so I don't want to get hurt because I'm a free agent.
They went out there and tried to win and do their part so if he doesn't do his part I think it's going to be a black eye for him so we'll see if if you know Aaron Rodgers words reportedly you know reaching out to him you know but the fact that this report is out here I think the damage is already done so we've talked about this with the Jets this year and you played on some defenses where the offense wasn't that great how much pressure is it on a defense when you get on the field on Sunday and you know that your offense is not going to score more than like 10 14 points do you feel it game to game where you're like we have to be perfect otherwise we don't have a chance to win I mean we always had good kickers so we knew that we can manufacture some scores and we knew that if we got turnovers we really practice on pitching the ball and getting getting in because we knew if our offense got it no no no seriously if you ever watch any of our ravens games you see ed re you see multiple pitches you see everybody it was organized it wasn't something that we're just doing you know uh sporadically you know we set up a perimeter the the guy who was closest to the intended receiver makes sure that somebody blocks the intended receiver so he can't tackle from behind. We got to the nearest sideline.
Guys peeled back, and guys went and looked for the athletes, and we left the offensive lineman to whoever was returning the ball. If you look at the Ed Reed touchdowns, the Ray Lewis touchdowns, the DeJuan Landry touchdowns, the Chad Williams touchdowns, they were all orchestrated.
And it looked like a kickoff return. That's because we practiced it and we worked on it.
It can go all the way back to, you know, Ravens was one of the first teams that people can remember on Monday Night Football against Denver, where Chris McAllister went back on a long field goal and took it back to the house. Like nothing that we did was by happenstance.
It was all premeditated and understood and worked out. Yeah.
It was very, very fun to watch. So I want to bring up something.
Maybe it might be a little sore subject, the butt fumble. The butt fumble.
Because I've always wondered about that game. I think it's the most overrated incident.
Just because you give it a cool name don't mean that it's a very cool name.

It's a very cool name.

It's a cool name, and also he did run into the guy's ass.

Yeah, he did.

Yeah, okay.

He ran into the back of his lineman who was being pushed back by arguably one of the greatest deep tackles in the game,

and Vince Wilford.

So, of course, he's scrambling, and the guy gets pushed back into him.

We've seen guys get tackled plenty of times by getting pushed back. We saw the Jets get a safety by pushing a lineman back and tackling a running back it's happened so many times that you can't even name it but because you put a name on it like butt fumble and it makes like oh it's cool and like it's something that's rare it happens all the time he's not the first guy to fumble because somebody pushed back the defense his face kind of into his butt.
His face kind of ran into his ass. The butt part.
You're not picking up on how funny the ass was. Yeah.
No, no, no, I get it. I don't know if you do get it.
No, no, he ran into his butt. Yeah.
It's a big ass, right? It's a big person. So, of course, if you run into the back of somebody and they're bent over, their ass is the farthest thing away.
Yeah, but it's still the ass. Yeah.
I think it's one of the overrated things. They try to have the anniversary and stuff like that.
It happens all the time. You heard Mark Sanchez talk about it in week one.
Oh, so a guy runs into a guy and fumbles the ball. Oh, what a coinkydink.
But from your perspective, because I know that you don't hold back, and when you get to the locker room and you watch the replay for the first time, did anybody... I never saw the replay.
Oh, you should watch it. It's very funny.
That's why you don't know. It's really funny.
I've seen it since then. I know it's Brandon Moore, but when it happened, I never even...
I just knew he fumbled. How did he fumble? He ran until he ran to the lineman.
You're missing the butt part. You still don't got it.
It's a big ass. It's a big ass.
I mean, I play with Haloti Nade and Chris Jenkins. You know how many times I've seen guys get knocked down and fumbled because he threw people into them, and I'm sure their ass is the part of that tackling.
It was common practice for the defensive tackle that I played with. You got to run a zone scheme.
You get pushed back, tackle with the ass. So no one made a joke about it to Mark afterwards.
I could imagine somebody trying to take the air out of the situation, making the first joke, and Mark just staring at me like, dude, don't joke about that right now. Listen, I don't think anybody on the team ever like even really associated that he got tackled by ass.
It's only when like it goes on the media. But I feel like the Jets are one of those organizations where like, you know, people just look to crack jokes about and I don't understand like the national hate.
You know, why Peyton Manning, you know, with his big ass forehead and looking like Lurch and looking like Frankenstein you know himself would ever have like a joke at a country a country awards when at that time the organization that he played for was big was a bigger joke with what was going on with the Broncos early in the season than when he made the joke about the Jets who had just beat the Philadelphia Eagles so but yet you know I don't know why Peyton Manning hates the Jets so much you can can, you can hear it whenever he comes on and he does his Manning cast. Like even when they're running, like they, they beat the Buffalo Bills, but you wouldn't think that they were going to beat the Buffalo Bills based on how Peyton and Eli was talking about him.
I have no idea. You know, he also gave Adam Gase, which was a Manchurian candidate who like definitely was brought in here to ruin the organization.
Peyton Manning refused to come here. Right.
So that's another thing that he's done. So like, I have no idea why he hates the Jets so much and why he thinks like the Jets.
Like, listen, I don't understand it. Right.
Because I came from an organization that's, you know, well-respected in the Baltimore Ravens. So like all this, like, it just seems like people like to make the Jets the butt of the joke.
Like, listen, I have to own up to that. I have to be a part of that because, you know, I'm a part of that history.
But when I played outside of the butt fumble, you can't say any of the teams that I played on was a joke. I think the NFL and everybody took that team very seriously, whether we fell short or not, you know, we have respectability.
But, you know, I don't get why everybody, you know, Jets, Mets, Knicks,icks like they're just easy punching bags not just for people like in the division but i think people as a whole just like to clown them and i i never got it but you know you never understood it you know maybe it goes back to something you know far far before i even start paying attention to sports but it's like those teams might get clowned like those teams get clowned more than the lions i'm a lions fan i'm from detroit the lions have been the worst organization in the history of sports them and the cleveland browns and they don't get the national hate i think because people are envious of the fact that it's a new york team they think that new yorkers are arrogant because they're supposed to have the best of everything but they haven't won any titles to really suggest you know you know who they are right time, you would think Boston. You would think those teams are Los Angeles.
Philly. Teams that have had more.
Philly hadn't won a Super Bowl. They were the last team within a division to ever win a Super Bowl.
That's true. The Sixers are okay, but the process has been a failed experiment as well.
Facts. Philly's wait.
Phillies didn't win anything. Yeah.
No, you're right. Philadelphia Union.
It is the Jets. It was Boston.
Boston. Boston was title title for a long time between the Bruins and Red Sox.
And, you know, the 2000s, early 2000s was basically based in Boston. Yeah.
One of our guys that we love, who we think is elite, came back to the NFL this week, Joe Flacco.

You played with him for a year. You played against him

when you were on the Jets.

Did you ever stop and be like, damn, he throws

such a nice spiral? Because he really does.

Yeah, I used to call him

Frida, and Fucko was his nickname,

my nickname for him.

People don't know that he came in the league

and he came in the league like Anthony

Davis. He has a full-grown unibrow.
So I used to call him Frida. That was my nickname for him.
Of course, people know my nickname for Mark Sanchez was Nacho. But Flacco, that's when I stopped calling him when he threw a 15-yard out, which is the hardest ball to throw.
It's the farthest ball, and he threw it on point. I stopped calling him Fucco.
stopped calling him Frida. But I stopped calling him fucko.
Yeah. I mean, he does have, I think, the nicest spiral in the NFL.
He has one of the strongest arms. He has one of the strongest arms in the history of football, in my opinion.
And Carson Palmer, before he hurt the Tommy, had the Tommy John. Same difference.
Yeah. I read a story that you got suspended one time for eating an apple is that true no you guys went deep into the archives right they call it Barscott's fearful beginnings you know um this road documented you know I mean I had a defense coordinator that was an asshole and um you know he decided to focus on me eating an apple you know while we're getting our ass kicked and I was on me and him was the only ones in there because he had benched me.
And, you know, he tried to smack the apple in my hand. And, you know, there's certain things that you can do to me, but being from Detroit to me and built on respect, coach or not, you know, we're going to challenge that authority when you stand over me as a grown-ass man at that point, you know, 19 years old.
And so I was ready for the smoke, right? So, like, you know, he didn't want to smoke. He had like he wanted to smoke, but I ended up getting kicked off the team.
That kind of hurt me because people thought they didn't know who I was. They thought I was like a bad person.
Didn't understand that I had committed to Michigan State, that I turned down a scholarship at Michigan State. And that's a whole nother story within itself.
But, you know, that guy tried to kiss my ass years later when he was a member of morgan state uh try to tell everybody that he had coached me because at that point i was a starter for the ravens and he was trying to impress the staff and in morgan state by saying you know i coached him and we had we had a uh receiver that delivered a message to me so i delivered a message back and you know he's trying court with his guys, right. Where people come from different places.
They're trying to act like they big time. And he was like, Oh, I told Bart, you said hi.
And he was like, Oh yeah. What'd he say? He said, when I see you, he said, when you see in the streets, don't kick your ass.
And to this date, if I see Mike Biden in the streets, I'm gonna smack the shit out of him because he tried, he tried to take a dream from a kid that was just trying to play hard and wasn't doing anything wrong. And I'm not the only guy he did it against.
But, you know, that led to some other stuff. Jerry Kill.
Jerry Kill, all-time football guy. I love Jerry Kill.
So Jerry Kill, when the Ravens came and people had questions about my character, told the Baltimore Ravens, who were the only team that and scouted me, that if he died today, he would be honored if I raised his children. So that erased all doubts about my character, who I've never, even post-career, never heard my name in any controversy, anything at all.
I've always been clean, straight down the middle. I just don't take no shit.
Jerry Kill, that's a big thing from Jerry Kill because football almost killed him. He had seizures and he just loves football so much.
He's like, I got to keep coaching football. Yeah, I talk to him all the time.
He's the best. He's a football lifer.
Yeah, I don't think you have grudges. I think you just remember facts.
Yeah, that's what I think. I think you remember things that happened and you don't forget them.
When, you do that, you keep that energy for life. So, like, you know, Bill, Mike Veidt, I don't care.
On site. Peyton Manning.
Would you piss on Peyton Manning if he was on fire? Well, no, I don't mind Peyton, right? You know what I'm saying? I just don't – the hate is one thing, but I don't dislike Peyton Manning. I love Peyton Manning.
I think he's one of the funniest dudes ever. I think his personality belongs on the face of Tom Brady.
Tom Brady's supposed to be the cool, funny, cool guy, right? But Tom is opposite. And actually, Peyton is the funniest guy.
You know what I mean? The cool guy. The guy you want to hang out with.
His personality. Who knew that him and Eli had this type of talent? The dry, sarcastic humor.
You know what I mean? They're like the football version of Will Ferrell. Yeah.
How many times – I know you've got to run in a second. How many times do people on a given day just yell, can't wait at you? I get it all the time.
It's kind of like Icky with the Icky shuffle. You know what I mean? I can remember seeing Icky, and Icky was like, God still coming to him asking me to do the Icky shuffle.
He's like, man, I'm 40, man. I don't do the Icky shuffle no more.
But I don't mind. I mean, especially around here, you know, they haven't had much to replace it.
So, you know, we hold on to it. I think Richard Sherman tried to do a similar interview later, but it didn't come off as authentic.
And the punchlines wasn't flowing as well. Yeah.
But he tried his attempt. You know, the reports are that he had did the he had did it already with the Spanish network and then he actually recreated.
Oh, no. But I like Sherman.
You know, I mean, I like he speaks his mind. And listen, I could I would like to think that because he saw mine that he felt great to express.
And I would think that the reporters went over there because they were hoping, knowing that me and him had similar personalities, that he could be able to spit some hot fire. Now, you know what I mean? It's not quite the ether that I put out there as far as the bars.
If you break down the bars, you'll realize that it was some – the can't wait is the punchline. Yeah.
The poetic justice, the nosebleed, and all that type of stuff was actually the hottest bars that probably was ever spit in a post-career rant. So I'll own that.

That's great. All right, I know you got to run.
This has been awesome, Bart. We appreciate it.
You're welcome back on any time. Also, how awesome was Jim Leonard at football? Jim Leonard was great at football.
I think Jim Leonard being hurt really stopped us from being able to win the Super Bowl. The fact that he was out.
you know, if we'd have had him or Chris Jenkins just healthy in any of those,

you know, NFC playoff, those AFC championships. Yeah.
You know, we'd have won with Jim Leonard. But if we'd have had Chris Jenkins, it wouldn't even have been close.
Wow. My last, last question, just how awesome is it being named Bart? That must have been pretty cool when this came out.
Well, actually, it's Bartholomew. My dad's name is Bartholomew.
My son's named Bartholomew. Love that.
One thing about Bartholomew is I get to the interview before they realize I'm black. Bartholomew, yeah.
Bart is a great name. At that point, it's too late.
If you go with all those 80s babies, DeAndre and Devontae Dalvin, all that shit, they deny those interviews. They don't even get to the building, so I'm all good.
I did my research on you. I knew that you were African-American before we started this.
Yes. You didn't think so.
I did. I knew.
I knew. But you didn't know if I was Wayne Brady Black or you didn't know if I was Wesley Snipes Black.
Now you got your answer. I'm not going to comment on that, but that's fair.
Yeah, Bart, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate you coming on.
We'd love to have you on again, and good luck with your radio show today. Appreciate it.
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Okay, Fyre Fest time. I think, I mean, Hank, or sorry, PFT, Jake, and I, do you guys want to go real quick? Because I think it's really Hank and Max.
I can forfeit my speaking time. Yeah, I don't really have anything.
I just got to sweat. I'm really tired today yeah like today it's been an exhausting week yeah and today we just work pretty much non-stop i slept like six hours last night that's pretty i had a little i had like seven hours but i need my eight yeah you know that need my so i'm basically running on like less than fumes right now yeah i can't wait to go home just you know probably take a long weekend yeah recuperate rejuvenate my body i'm just i'm just exhausted yeah your body doesn't recover you know when you know it takes a couple days uh max and hank do you guys have a fire fest for us i'll let max go i mean he's he's like he he you've never looked more like hagrid yeah no max is in is in a worse state right now than I am.
Max, so Max didn't sleep. Hank slept for five hours.
False. How many hours was it, Max? I don't know.
I'll tell the story. We did a 24-hour stream.
It was a lot of fun. Thank you to everyone that tuned in.
It was awesome that everyone tuned in. It was good vibes with the chat.
This was at like 4 or 5 in the morning. Me and Max were just loopy hours, having some laughs, good vibes with the chat this was at like four or five in the morning me and max were just loopy hours having some laughs messing around with the chat they kept asking us to to kiss take our top tarps off and just asking all types of ridiculous stuff and we had the timer that was like 17 hours 18 hours and i was starting to get tired it was four o'clock in the morning and i'd been up all day.
I was like, I know if I don't sleep for a little bit, I'm going to want to die.

By the time Big Cat and PFT come back, they're going to be awake.

I'm going to be tired, and they're just going to be making us do stuff.

I'm going to be miserable.

So I made a deal with the chat.

If I kissed Max's gout toe, that I could sleep.

I was like, if I do that, can I sleep?

And they're like, yep. It's not gout.
We made a deal, not gout, whatever it is sleep i was like if i do that can i sleep and they're like yep they it's not gout we made a deal not gout whatever it's diabetes uh not diabetes so i kissed his toe fell asleep for like two hours i think and that that made a huge difference i woke up seven o'clock we started doing karaoke but by the end of the day i still had a little bit of energy a little bit of momentum like you can go one day on a little bit of sleep yeah going a full day and a half on zero sleep which is what max is doing is what max did and as the day was going forward i just watched his body die in the last like four hours he just wasn't like a human being yeah no he's the light he was just a body the lights were on nobody was home now max um this would really be a horrific turn of events if for some reason you forgot to push the button. I'm going to push the button.
And you ended up with a two-year soul patch. I wouldn't.
I'm going to push it. How are you going to? What do you have in place right now to make sure the button's pushed? I'm just not going to leave this place until it's up.
Okay, so other people will be around you? Yeah. Do you have a spotter? I don't know should have a spotter also like yeah max hank you guys did an awesome job it was incredible you guys are great uh memes is a fucking soldier memes stayed up the entire time too helping to produce it which we didn't ask him to do it me was like i'm gonna do this he was killing he did the shit out of it so evan and also evan and shame just crushed it so it was but Max, man, I walked away from the stream with a newfound appreciation for Max.
You were MVP. MVP.
I call him Max Delante West because that dude's a motherfucker. If we have an MVP, do we have to have an LVP? I guess you kind of have to.
All right, so Max is the MVP. Who else was in the stream?

I think Hank was in there.

I don't mind.

Go ahead. Sorry.

Max was MVP.

Yeah.

And you guys did it. You did all 22 and a half hours.

Yep. Big stream.

When are we going to do the 24

hour stream? I mean, you guys told us if we did hour stream I mean you guys told us I know I know I did say when you guys got out I was like I can't believe they got out they left early because they have to know I'm going to bring it up I didn't give off 24 hours they did 22 and a half so close you guys gave us things to of the, and I think I did a great job. The people that watched will say I was complaint free.
So was Max. Yeah, it was just the time when we were doing picks and preview and PFT was doing his ads and then I pulled up the chat and everyone was calling me Hitler.
That was, yeah, there was no complaint. No one complained to get that happening.
The chat was off. I said to me personally.
the chat fucked with you guys a little bit but in a funny way yeah and they you guys did accomplish like they turned on me and big cat they're like these guys are the ones that are that are the the puppet master yeah they we came out of taping the show and max and hank were like you guys did a poll and we're like no we've been taping the show and like fuck the chat got us so the chat chat might be the mvp too because they they're very funny the chat is always so fucking funny in those things and also please stop calling him hank vick we've moved on past that he did hit blake he did do a marty mcsorley and uh and hit my dog in the head with a hockey stick but that's okay we've moved on i apologize to blake and a lot of people again like i i take full responsibility i was trying to take all the ownership completely there was a lot of people not me that were saying like pft let his dog go off a leash into a game that we were basically playing to the death and if you scored a goal then you you know you won a massive massive prize and blake surprised you jumped like 10 minutes of phone time and blake jumped in front of the ball i did i did hit him and i did feel very bad and and I take full responsibility so the people saying like that's kind of on the owner for putting his dog in that situation I disagree with I I halfway agree I think it's 50 on me 50 on Hank I'll take full ownership Max I want to hear from you though because you are you you are running on more than fumes um what what's on? What's going on in the head right now?

Not a lot.

Not a lot going on in this head of mine.

BMCs.

BMCs was the thing that got brought up.

Who was BMCs?

I don't know.

That's between me and the demon hours of the chat.

What's BMCs?

Tell us what's BMCs.

Memes, what's BMCs? Big, meaty clackers. Max had his camel.
I was like, damn, dude, you got some big-ass nuts. And he was like, yeah, my friends used to call him the big, meaty clackers.
The thing about Max is he's got huge balls. The BMC's.
Now the whole titty-f fucking thing makes sense. That's why you can't do it.
You can't fit them. Those clackers.
Who's fucking who? Okay, so Max, you were incredible. Max could definitely titty fuck somebody with his nuts.
Yeah, he's titty fucking his own dick. He just tucks it down.
he just draws nipples on each ball and starts going up and down that would hurt oh yeah you don't like titty fucking because it's just looking at your own penis every day oh all right so max yeah like are you you guys you guys were troopers 24 hours in that room Yeah. Did you start to just lose time and space? What, what point was it like, where the fuck are we? Mine, it was probably one of the highlights was, I don't know what time it was.
Obviously we were in a room with no windows and I did sleep for a little bit, but I woke up, I was delirious. We played a game and then we just started doing karaoke.
It was probably like 8am, 9am. You guys came into karaoke karaoke will came in and like it was just one of those i was like kind of tired kind of got energy and just started scream screaming singing just went all in and that was like one of the and then i was watching the clip back i was like this is funny i was like i think this was at 8 a.m yeah yeah first thing in the morning we were just doing karaoke yeah overnight like i know that We probably shouldn't have started it at 9 p.m., but it was very funny leaving you guys where you guys were kind of angry about the situation, still had some pep, and then coming back in the morning and we just came into two different people.
You're just like, we're just grizzled vets. Don't fuck us we're we've already reached the point of no return when

i left hank was very salty about putting together the ikea furniture to the point where hank in protest just took a hammer and started just beating the uh one like wooden piece with it you're like i'm building i'm building are you happy the facilities here aren't aren't up to my code and then facilities were fucked in the morning when i woke up the first thing that i saw was the picture of the shelf that Max built overnight.

And it's the funniest fucking shelf i've ever seen like you put all the pieces together but they don't fit at all yeah i thought that i was walking out of that with the perfectly built dresser and then once i it was like every you built everything separately and then you once you put them together that's like what made the final dresser and i had each piece and i was working on it for six hours i started at 11 p.m finished it at 5 a.m and it was like a moment i like turned to memes i was like memes i did it man i finally made the dresser it's good it's gonna. And then I put all the cabinets into the thing and just immediately just started to crumble.
Like it was legitimately from a movie. When Jerry walked in and he looked at that dresser, it was one of those laughs that I'll remember that laugh forever.
He was like, this is the cabinet. It looked like Homer Simpson's then and then i was so mad you guys didn't give us chairs to build that was that was all my yeah why the fuck did we build chairs well we actually were thinking practically we're like when we did the meeting before we're like you know we could probably use like a dresser or drawer here and maybe a tv stand so there was practical use to it just not in the the moment.
Yeah, you guys crushed it. I thought that was very fun.
I mean, we have some more bets coming up, but that one was a very fun one. That was fun.
I would say my two, the two lowlights, sneaky, shouldn't seem as bad, but the puzzle was brutal. Oh, you came in.
I came in. Max had built half his puzzle, and Hank just looked at me and snarled.
And he's like, did you fuck with my puzzle? I was like, dude, I didn't even fucking buy these. Because you guys reached a point where you thought everything we did was fucking with you.
Well, the bag was open. Yeah.
I was like, what? I don't think we fucked with you that bad. No, but I was on high alert.
But really, the worst thing that we did that still is probably going to be the thing that affects me the most throughout the weekend was playing knee hockey to start. Yeah.
My knees fucking kill. Knee hockey was so funny, though.
Every time I stand up, it hurts. And every time I'm moving, they're all torn up.
Max for showers is going to hurt really bad, too. Max in front of that goal was just so funny.
He looked like he had diapers on.

Oh, yeah.

You were wearing the pants.

So I was wearing the pants, and then I was also wearing shorts underneath

because I was worried about climate control over the next 24 hours.

BMCs.

Yeah.

You had a moment where you're standing in front of the goal,

and the pants are so ridiculous that there was no five hole.

Zero five holes.

It was a great strategy by me.

And then I took them off and went straight knee to the thinn thinnest carpet of all time it was basically needed cement like it was we were so excited for for uh knee hockey at first and then by the end of it we were like we are we were gonna do we were gonna go first to 100 and then we were like let's do first to seven smart and first to seven took like 15 minutes a while. Yeah.
What about the paintings? How do we feel? Oh, the paintings are right behind you. Yeah.
I like that. You guys did a good job with these paintings.
Max's painting's really nice. Look at that.
We got the Black Mountain, and then we got the sand. That's pretty good.
Yeah, that's where Max in the middle of Bob Ross, he's like, look at these facilities Bob Ross has. And then I just, it's like, yeah, we have shitty facilities.
Facilities became the word of the day. Yeah.
Great job though, guys. Also, I know the AWL is appreciated because you guys were very, very entertaining for 24 hours.
Yeah. I mean, we had a lot of people watching in the middle of the night that always blows my mind because we were just loopy as fuck.
I did sleep talk and yell at memes in my. Yeah.
That's so funny. Would you say, don't you like i'm unprompted i was completely asleep i watched the clip back i was like yeah no i don't this wasn't even like half conscious i just was like don't even fucking think about it means oh my god uh well you guys crushed it it was fun yeah jake you did a good job too jake was on top of everything jake was a saver on the uh madden because Madden was lagging, and he came in and announced it.
It was good. And, yeah, it was a good time.
We have another one coming up with the pancakes. So that will be – it won't be 24 hours, but it probably will be 8 to 10 considering.
It'll be a while, yeah. I want to see 24 pancakes.
It's actually huge that Hank's going to win it because Hank eats so slow. Yeah, and he can just mock us now.
Yeah. If I had a pancake, it would be probably longer than 24.
Yeah. Well, no, because it's one hour off every time you finish a pancake.
Oh, right, right. Right.
So I think you'd probably eat like four pancakes. You're not a big eater.
Oh, I got it. Yeah, yeah.
So it's like it will most likely whoever loses has to eat 24 pink or doesn't have to eat 24 pancakes they have to do 24 hours or pancakes so realistically it will probably be like an eight hour stream because you probably can't eat more than like 16 pancakes i did take uh when i was doing the phone calls i took my pics because it means like we need your pics i was on the phone i was like give me a over give a spread. So my picks are just from some random dude that was calling.
And I've already accepted the loss, and I started to practice my set. And that's – I think the 24-hour stream is going to pale in comparison to how bad.
No, I liked your stand-up. Your stand-up was good.
The hour set's going to be tough. The thing you did about Dave and how he takes more than one bite, that was good.
What's the deal with that? What is the deal? No one ever talks about that. It's called one bite.
It tastes like four or five. That's going to be great.
And PFT's tat. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. He got tatted.
I got tatted. That's great.
I'm kind of addicted to tats now. I'm a tat guy.
You can't get just one. I'm probably going to get several more on this.
I switched it up at the last second. I went left arm instead of right arm.
It was like spur of the moment. And then I'm just like right arm.
I can do the swaggy P, right arm strictly for buckets. Yeah.
And also Mitch, the tack guy. So he comes in the studio after we're done.
And he wants to like check out the studio, take some pictures. He was an awesome dude.
Check him out. Mitch does tats.
And I was like, hey, you want to pick a lotto ball? He's like, sure. He's wearing a Brian Branch jersey, number 32, on the lines.
He's like, I'll take 32. Jake was in here as a witness.
Jake ran the machine. He looked away.
Mitch got 32. Incredible.
And so then we're like, well, I'm going to bet on Mitch to score a touchdown tonight. It's a sign.
Mitch scored. Yeah.
And then didn't win. Didn't win.
Didn't throw a pick six, though. Didn't throw a pick six.
Never thrown a pick six. Okay.
So let's do it. Let's finish the show.
Good job, Max and Hank. Proud of you boys.
Numbers. Eight.
39. 18.
71. Also from some 20.
Random Stella Blue purchaser. 39? 39.
What's yours, Max? 20. What'd you say, Max? 20.
Okay.

Shane, 10.

77.

Pug.

Pug.

Pug.

Pug.

I am pug.

The pug chants were so good.

I have 71.

78. 78.

Oh, God.

So close. 78.
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The number one spot podcast on the charts and in your heart. Hey.
Football guy. A.W.
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