Rob Gronkowski, Bart Scott, Week 14 Picks And Preview + Recap Of The 24 Hour Stream

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Speaker 1 See Mintmobile.com. On today's part in my take, week 14 picks and preview.

Speaker 1 We have a twofer for the people. Rob Gronkowski, Bart Scott.
Great combo. We've got an all-time patriot, an all-time patriot hater.
Can't wait.

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Speaker 1 far and my take

Speaker 1 welcome to part in my take today is Friday December 8th and the patriots are back

Speaker 1 fully well I'd say

Speaker 1 I would actually say it's

Speaker 1 the Steelers are done so the Steelers have lost back-to-back games at home to the Cardinals and the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Which, I just want to say, my guy Mitch, I know there's probably some Steeler fans that are upset at him right now, but in his afterlife, he helps out the Bears because the Bears now have a stranglehold on that first pick.

Speaker 1 He lost to the Cardinals and the Patriots, like you said, in back-to-back weeks. They're now second and third in the picks with three wins, and the Panthers have one.

Speaker 1 But Hank, the Patriots won a game. Bailey Zappi looked good.

Speaker 1 In the first half, he looked real good. Really good.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 1 you don't want to win that game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a bad game to win because it's like, do the Panthers have two more wins in them? I don't think so.

Speaker 4 Probably not.

Speaker 1 Hank is also just exhausted and delirious, which I don't blame him for at all. You deserve to be every bit of exhausted and delirious.
But that game probably didn't do a whole lot to wake you up.

Speaker 1 It was fun in the first half scoring touchdowns.

Speaker 4 Like, oh, this is a fun team to root for. But I obviously am a big fan of Mitch.
I wanted the Patriots to lose. So I I was all in on like a second half, Steelers, comeback.

Speaker 4 Mitch, Steelers lose, Patriots look good, but we still lose. And so that was worst case scenario.

Speaker 1 There was one moment at the end of the second half.

Speaker 1 The Steelers were driving the ball. I think it was fourth and three, right? Fourth and three.
Yeah, it was fourth and three. Fourth and three.
And Mike Tomlin did the thing I hate the most.

Speaker 1 No, that was actually a fourth and like one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was fourth and one at that time. It was fourth and one.
Tomlin did the thing I hate the most from a coach. He took a think-it-over timeout.
I hate the think-it-over timeout.

Speaker 1 You should have already thought it over. That's what the week's for.
That's what preparing's for.

Speaker 1 And then you take a timeout, talk it over, see what you like, and then send your guys out there, run to play. They got a first down, which was great.
And then they had the fourth and three.

Speaker 1 And on that fourth and three, they thought that they had an encroachment against the defense.

Speaker 1 Which they should have. Which they should have.
Instead, they called a false start on the center for moving his head up slowly. And it was such a like the encroachment was so obvious.

Speaker 1 We said in the moment, we're like, that is the call down to the field to tank. Yes.
Like, the Patriots realized, oh, we played well in the first half. That was fun.
We got to lose this game.

Speaker 1 And for a second, Tomlin and Belichick had a standoff. And you remember when Belichick and Vrabel had that standoff where they deleted time in that playoff game? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It felt like that, except the saddest version of that, where each coach was saying, no, no, we committed the penalty. No, no, we committed it.
But then they ended up getting the ball back.

Speaker 1 Mitch didn't really do much with it. I don't understand the go route on fourth and two at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 I mean, Will was sitting with us, and he said that, you know, that's just kind of a, if you can see one-on-one on the outside, press coverage. Yeah, I guess.
Go for it.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Steelers are bad, and I'm listening. I don't think the Steelers are a playoff team.
They shouldn't be. They are now officially outside of the playoffs, which is good for football.
Like,

Speaker 1 we love Pittsburgh. We love the people of Pittsburgh.
We love Steelers fans, but I think Steelers fans agree, like,

Speaker 1 this isn't a playoff team, and it's probably for the better if they get a better draft pick and maybe reassess everything. I was going to say it's good for the Steelers that they lost this game.

Speaker 1 Right. Because if you end up having a winning record, getting into the playoffs, and then you go one and done with a team that never really had a chance to do anything in the playoffs,

Speaker 1 why? Because you get one more week of being like, we're still. I guess if you're a loser franchise, like for me,

Speaker 1 I would love to get my ass kicked in the wild card round.

Speaker 1 That's like my dream. But Steelers fans, that's beneath you to think that way.
They need a reset. Jersey Jerry was talking that they should trade TJ Watt, try to get a lot for him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Deserves to be.

Speaker 1 He was talking like it was like a dog that, like a city dog that needs, like, you know, like when you get a cattle dog. You're like, yeah, this dog should be out in the, you know, in the wilderness.

Speaker 1 Out at a farm. It's not an apartment dog.
It's just going to sit around and gnaw its paws raw. Right.
It's going to drive itself crazy. Send it to a farm.
Yeah. Give this dog some space.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Hank, congrats. You won a game.
Thanks. I'm very happy you won.

Speaker 4 That makes one of us. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Bailey looked good in the first pick. That first pick.
Yeah. Ooh, boy.
I swear Al Michaels was just trying his hardest to get Mitch to throw a pick six. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 You know, he's never done this. He's never done a pick six.
Which it surprises me every time I hear it. Wait, he hasn't? Mitch Trubisky has never thrown a pick six, big cat.

Speaker 1 Fun fact, I've always seen it. Also, I've definitely envisioned him throwing a lot of them, but no, he has not.
Also, Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard.

Speaker 1 And the Kelseys are brothers. I have to check that because, PFT, no offense, but I don't know if you're trying to get us, but the Jokic stat was just wrong.

Speaker 1 No, he leads. Are you talking about like per game? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, total.

Speaker 1 Oh. I said total rebound.
Oh, I thought you meant he led the league averages. Yeah, I know, no.

Speaker 1 No. And I told someone that sat and they're like, no.
And I was like, wait, what? No, it's total. Total.
Yeah. Total.
Yeah, that's a weird way. No one cares about total.
No one cares.

Speaker 1 I don't. That's a weird way to.
I care about total.

Speaker 1 That's just who's played the most game. I'm not into this load management stuff.

Speaker 1 Best ability is availability.

Speaker 1 Ah, I got it. Okay.
That's funny. If you had asked me, like, life on the line, has Mitch thrown the pick six? I'd be like, yeah, for sure.
But he just has not. Never has.
Never has. But yeah,

Speaker 1 that was a better game than we expected. Yeah, it was.
It was fun. Yeah.
It was fun. Yeah.
It's it's it's a better game than we expected. I was fully

Speaker 1 overhitting the first half. I thought it was good.
Everyone was shitting on the game beforehand. Yeah, a game that's so bad that it's good, but instead it was just so good that it was not bad.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, we can get to it with the 24-hour stream, but there was a portion where we were taking callers that were part of the Golden Mug giveaway, and everyone was asking about the game, and I was like, Patriots over, Patriots over, Patriots over.

Speaker 4 And then I just like the stream ended. I didn't have time, didn't put it in.

Speaker 1 And it obviously. But you made some people some money.

Speaker 4 Everyone. Yeah.
Everyone else.

Speaker 1 That feels good. That's almost better than winning.
Sure.

Speaker 4 That's definitely worse. No, it's worse.

Speaker 1 It's way worse. It's so much worse.

Speaker 4 Like I was out and I came over, the Patriots scored, and they just marched down, scored again. I was like, oh, this is way over, and the Patriots are going to win.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Great.
Also, congrats to LeBron James. Yeah.
You're in the finals of the in-season tournament. I'll just give the floor to Skip Bayless on this take.
He said, I give LeBron this.

Speaker 1 He did keep his team together long enough to outlast everyone and win a bubble championship that deserved a Cubic Zirconia ring.

Speaker 1 And now he has won a cute little gimmicky November-December tournament in its first year. Impressive.
He hasn't won one. He hasn't won it yet.
He hasn't won one of the game. Similar Halberts game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the in-season tournament has been very fun. It is a win for Adam Silver because it's games that no one would care about, and now we care about them, right?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 I watched them. I was like, this is fun.
What do you think LeBron's going to do with the money? He hasn't won yet. No, but I'm saying, if he won, if he gets what, half mil? Yeah, here's the thing.

Speaker 4 They get 100K each.

Speaker 1 Two, three, four.

Speaker 4 No, I think they get they get more than half a mil.

Speaker 1 I think they get more than 100K. Yeah.
They'll get 500K. Yeah, it's enough to make you care about it.
The Pacers have seven guys that are making less than $6 million. Yeah, so it means...

Speaker 1 This money means something for them. But it also means a lot to LeBron if he can win this and then make a big show about where he gives the money.
Yeah. Yeah, he'll definitely give the money away.

Speaker 1 I did see one mean tweet that was like, LeBron's trying to do the one thing that MJ never did, leave Las Vegas with $500,000. It's kind of funny.

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to say, yeah, MJ never won a mid-season tournament. Kareem never won one.
No, but yeah, that's been fun. And then Juan Soto, Yankee.

Speaker 1 Yankees are going to just try to, I like this. The Yankees just keep trying to be like, we're going to hit the most home runs.

Speaker 1 Well, Juan Soto, in that short porch environment, he's going to hit some fucking ding-dongs. Yeah, he is.
But pitching still matters. Yeah.
We'll just outhit everybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then John Rom to the live, which, okay.

Speaker 1 Who do you think is going to get more money, John Rom to the live or Shohei otani who's apparently commanding like 600 million dollars i know which is insane but john ram 450 i still don't understand

Speaker 1 like they merged but they're not yeah i guess you can still jump leagues okay then smart for john rom because he gets to play in everything right he gets to play play fewer rounds of golf make like 450 million dollars guaranteed make like 10 times or more more money and then yeah just show up when he wants to and he gets to wear shorts he doesn't have the swamp ass shorts is great.

Speaker 1 That might have been the big sticking point.

Speaker 9 Shorts are great.

Speaker 1 Like, can you explain the shorts thing to me one more time? Why is it? Why do they have to wear pants in golf? Yeah, I don't know. I don't care.
Gentlemen's game.

Speaker 1 But yeah, John Rahm just sitting at the negotiating table. Like, listen, the 450, I don't care.
450 million, but just tell me, walk me through this shorts thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just explain it like I'm five years old. I can wear shorts.
There's going to be another golf league. Maybe Qatar can get in on this.
Have the Amir get some money out there.

Speaker 1 Just as much money as Live. You get to wear shorts also, and you get a cart.
and you can wear tank tops and yeah just gun show I like that yeah would be sick I always thought of something guys oh

Speaker 1 no thought of the week yeah

Speaker 10 earlier this week didn't Lebron Max is asleep didn't LeBron say didn't he tell his teammates he's gonna miss

Speaker 1 a game

Speaker 1 if it's oh for the same date for his son for Bronny Bronnie I think is playing on Saturday against Long Beach State The NBA in-season tournament championship in Las Vegas is Saturday. Oh.

Speaker 1 This is a dilemma. Well, he could probably fly.

Speaker 1 I think he'll probably get

Speaker 1 Saturday. I don't know what the timing is.
LeBron will get the game time change. Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 What? It says it's Sunday. Oh.
Long Beach State.

Speaker 1 But it's an interesting thought experiment. I just Googled it.
It says Sunday.

Speaker 1 Let's just insult.

Speaker 1 Let's just berate LeBron for the fact that he would have missed that that game. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's why he's not a champion. Is it Sunday or Saturday?

Speaker 10 I'm looking. I see one tweet that says Saturday, but it's not a Saturday.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm looking at Google, not tweets.

Speaker 1 Sunday. It says Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

Speaker 1 So no problem for Bronny. He probably got it moved.
He probably would have moved it. Sunday.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I had it, but I didn't. No, you didn't.
No, you did not have it.

Speaker 10 I did exactly what they told me not to do in journalism school.

Speaker 1 Read a tweet.

Speaker 10 Be first.

Speaker 1 Read a tweet. Instead of be right.
Don't ever read a tweet.

Speaker 1 That's always a bad thing. That's on me.

Speaker 1 You should actually never write a tweet either. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like across the board for everyone. Yeah.
All right. So, yeah, I'm rooting for the Pacers, obviously.
I mean, 500,000, what did I say, seven guys under six? Live like a king in Indiana.

Speaker 1 Also, winning $500,000 in Vegas got a rule. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would not leave. I'd leave with less money than what I won.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
I'd put it all on

Speaker 1 Red. Charles Barkley definitely would.
Yeah, for sure. I mean, you could just be like, well, we would have, it doesn't matter.
Yeah. It's not real.
I'm rich. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, except I'm not because I make, you know, if a player who makes like $2 million a year. Buddy Hill should have to do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fair. Buddy Hill should have to do it.
I think they also have, I think Bruce Brown got paid a lot. Bruce Brown, yeah, makes $22 million a year.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, the three top guy, Buddy Hill, Miles Turner, and Bruce Brown all make over $19 million a year. They all should have to put it all on red for the the team.

Speaker 1 And if, yeah, if it hits, you split it up. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or maybe they put it on double zero. And then they split.
That'd be huge. That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let's get to our kick it to ourselves.

Speaker 1 Again, if you're not a YouTube watcher, this is one you want to watch on YouTube because we have Max and Hank in the lower third keeping up a balloon for our picks and preview.

Speaker 1 And then we have Gronk and Bart Scott. Okay, picks and preview time.
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Speaker 1 Okay, so we're going to do our picks and preview for week 14.

Speaker 1 But if you are listening to the podcast right now and you want to watch it, I would tell you to go watch it right now because what is going on, if you missed the 24-hour stream, Max and Hank, while we tape this on Thursday afternoon, are in

Speaker 1 hour 18 of the stream.

Speaker 1 And what we have told them is that while we're taping part of my take, this is going to be about an hour here, they have to try to keep the balloon that we gave them up the entire time.

Speaker 1 If they can do that, they get out an hour early.

Speaker 1 So if you're watching the YouTube right now of the Pardon My Take episode, we're going to put them in the bottom corner for the section of this show of them trying to keep this balloon up.

Speaker 1 Shout out to everyone who watched the stream, who rode with them. Max MVP, Hank.
Well. Hank is there too.
Hank's there too. Max has been great.
Max has been delightful.

Speaker 1 I tuned in a couple times in the middle of the night. I would wake up, check my phone.
Max just talking to the chat, talking to himself, just keeping the people entertained.

Speaker 1 This morning when Frank the Tank went on, it dawned on me that we've kind of, we recreated the Stanford prison experiment. Yeah.
And we're the wardens and they're the prisoners.

Speaker 1 I don't think that we've done anything over the line. I think that most of the activities that we've given them have been engaging, entertaining, stimulating even.

Speaker 1 The Frank the Tank video, that was hard. Yes.
That was tough. So we will also,

Speaker 1 after, we're going to tape in segments today. So Firefest, we will have Hank and Max on, so you can keep listening.
You can hear their recap of everything. But, Max and Hank, it starts now.

Speaker 1 Keep it up for the next 45 minutes to an hour while we do the weekend preview. Ready, set, go.

Speaker 1 Okay, they're going.

Speaker 1 There was a part of me that thought Hank was going to just hit it into the ground. All right, Shane, you want to pull us down and we'll get back into it?

Speaker 1 They don't have to just alternate the entire time.

Speaker 1 This is so funny. It's actually kind of soothing watching this.
Can I just turn the logo on on the TV quick? Yes.

Speaker 1 The balloon bouncing around is kind of like we're watching the DVD logo thing, screensaver. It's kind of nice.

Speaker 1 Also, shout out to Max, built us a dresser for the studio that we're going to be adding.

Speaker 1 Did a really good job with that. Looks awesome.
Memes was low-key integral to

Speaker 1 the entire stream. Memes stayed up all night last night interacting with them, the chat.
Memes is a beast. Okay, PFT, week 14.
I know you hate when I do this, but I have to do it.

Speaker 1 We're not going to do it. Week 14 is so late.

Speaker 1 You know what it is? It's not that late. It's because you're forgetting about Super Wildcard weekend.
That's bonus football. Then we get more playoff football.
Then we get the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 Then we get the Super Bowl. No, that's not what I was going to say.
What I was going to say was when college football ends, it always is like, wait, what?

Speaker 1 How is college football over right now? Yeah, college football season is way too short and then we have bowl games, but it yeah, it does like week 14. It just dawned on me that

Speaker 1 listen our job gets a little easier because I think we showed it on last Sunday's show. There's some games that we don't really have to talk about that don't mean shit.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 but we will preview every game

Speaker 1 for Sunday. We have two crown jewels, two crown jewels.
If you have two crown jewels, you don't have one. So we got it.
We have to list one crown jewel. Okay.

Speaker 1 If there can be a crown jewel, then there can be like, i don't know a scepter

Speaker 1 the royal scepter okay so uh the crown jewels come later let's start with uh the noon one o'clock slate and we have some great games in that slate as well Rams at Ravens is where we're going to start.

Speaker 1 I saw that there was a report that Lamar Jackson might be dealing with his annual diarrhea because he wasn't at practice today. It's about that time of year, yeah.

Speaker 1 It does feel like this is right around the time of year where he's just going to randomly miss practice for an entire week and be like, what's going on with Lamar Jackson?

Speaker 1 What's going on with his ass? That's what we all need to know.

Speaker 1 I like the Rams, actually, to cover on this. I think the Rams are sneaky.

Speaker 1 They've got enough talent. These are the Rams for real game.
Yeah. Are you for real, Rams? Well, I think even if they lose by three, they could be considered semi-for-real.
I would say if they cover.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because it's seven and a half.
So if they lose by seven, I'm going to say the Rams possibly still for real at that point. We forget the Colts beat Baltimore and Baltimore this year.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It can be done. Kyron Williams has been awesome for the Rams.
He is like the Todd Gurley replacement. You know, that's that McVay's offense, you need the running game.

Speaker 1 And I think that that you've seen moments where the Rams have not looked great. He was out for a whole month.
Now they're back playing some good ball.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about this game because I agree with you that I lean Rams,

Speaker 1 even though it's a bye week for the Ravens. They're off a bye week and they also have like the one seed.

Speaker 1 very much in focus with everyone else losing. But I was thinking about it because Mark Andrews is out.
And I went back and I looked at the stats.

Speaker 1 One, I don't give Mark Andrews credit enough. I always think of Mark Andrews as an injury guy.
He's not. Yeah.
He's not an injury guy. He's actually not missed that many games.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Mark Andrews, when he has been out, he's been out four times when Lamar Jackson's also playing. So because there was obviously Lamar Jackson missed the end of last year.

Speaker 1 Lamar Jackson's stats in the last four times that they have played without Mark Andrews. You ready for these? 12 for 17, 107 yards.
12 for 22, 130 yards. 17 for 23, 169 yards.
18 for 32, 177 yards.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Not eclipse 200 yards.
The only thing that you could say in counter to this is they have way better wide receivers this year than they have had in the past when it was just Mark Andrews.

Speaker 1 But that makes me nervous about the Ravens. Mark Andrews is a big part of their offense.
No, the Ravens system has been to just not ever have a wide receiver. Yeah.
Ever. And now they have them.

Speaker 1 They went out and they got several wide receivers. So that's going to make a difference.

Speaker 1 But that's what I was saying earlier this year: I feel like Mark Andrews is to the Ravens what Travis Kelsey is to the Chiefs. Yeah.
He's not as good as Travis Kelsey. He's still very, very good.

Speaker 1 Baby Kelsey. One of the best in the league.
Is he older than Kelsey, though? No, I feel like Mark Andrews is a sneaky young guy. Is he? Sneaky young guy.

Speaker 1 It feels like he's been on the Ravens for a while. Well, you guess an age, I'll tell you.
All right. Well, shit, now I'm going against myself because I know what Travis Kelsey is.
What'd you think?

Speaker 1 I'm just going to guess 31.

Speaker 1 28. Oh, really? Yeah.
He just turned 28. Same age as Randall Cobb? Randall Cobb is 27.
Yeah, 26, I thought. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, Mark Andrews, I think he means as much to the Ravens as Travis Kelsey means to the Chiefs. Like, the offense doesn't really work without him.

Speaker 1 But also, you have to take into account this year, they've got Zay Flowers, who's nasty. Odell Beckham, who looks way better.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Way better than I thought he would. Ravens fans can do the, and this is a logic jump that all fan bases do, but I would do it if I were a Ravens fan.
I would say, well, maybe this is actually good.

Speaker 1 If Mark Andrews can come back for the playoffs, now Lamar has to get on even better page with his wide receivers.

Speaker 1 All systems go come January. This actually helped the Ravens.
He's got to learn how to play with everybody because he's not used to having those guys.

Speaker 1 It's something that we all have to figure out a way to do.

Speaker 1 When you have a key player go down, you have to figure out a way, like, actually,

Speaker 1 you don't know this team. This was actually a blessing in disguise.
Because they get Mark Andrews back, and then it's like free agent people.

Speaker 1 Then it's hyperdrive. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I agree with you i kind of lean the rams here it might be a backdoor cover but i i think if they get in seven if they if they lose by a touchdown i'm gonna take the rams seriously yeah yeah all right nerd nugget for this game hello guys hey hey jake how's it going hello guy uh Under John Harbaugh, the Ravens are 12-3 in games immediately following the buy, which is the fewest losses in the league over the last 15 years.

Speaker 10 And those games right after the buy, Coach Harbaugh took over in 2008. They're allowing just 16 points per game, first in the league.

Speaker 1 Okay, that makes me nervous. Yeah, a little bit nervous.
A little bit nervous about that one. I need to know what Ronnie from.
Where's Ronnie from? Ronnie from Dundalk? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stavi. I want to know what his take on this game is.
Yeah. Maybe we should have him on the show soon.
I think we're going to have him on the show soon sometimes. All right.
Next game up.

Speaker 1 Colts at Bengals.

Speaker 1 The Bengals.

Speaker 1 Can the Bengals make the playoffs? There was. Can we do the Bengals?

Speaker 1 Jake Browning equals Nick Foles?

Speaker 1 You know, some Bengals fans might be thinking it. Now, the Eagles, the year that Nick Foles won the Super Bowl, I think their record was way better when Carson Wentz got hurt.

Speaker 1 I think they were the one seed. He was probably going to be the MVP when he was hurt.
I think there was something like 12-4 somewhere around there.

Speaker 1 But in the games since Joe Burrow has gotten super healthy, he's played like the MVP. True.
I don't know. If I were a Bengals fan, this is what I'd be telling myself.

Speaker 1 I think it's heresy to compare Carson Wentz to Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and also maybe Jake Browning to Nick Foles. Double heresy.

Speaker 10 I knew we were 13 and 3 that year.

Speaker 1 13 and 3. So a little different because the Bengals still have to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 But if you're a Bengals fan, that Monday night win got you at least another week of rooting for a team that is in contention, which is beautiful. That's nice.

Speaker 1 Like, if you win this game, now you actually are thinking maybe you will go to the playoffs. It's not just that you're in the hunt.
You're in the thick of it. You're in the

Speaker 1 big time thick. You're in the deep shit if you're the Colts.
Colts are also 5-1 on the road this year. So don't forget that.
Gardner Minshew looked pretty good last week.

Speaker 1 Also, their special teams was awesome last week. Their special teams.
And they got a coach fired. Their special teams essentially scored 10 points for him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the coach, it was so good on your punt blocking unit that you got another special teams coach fired. And a guy injured.

Speaker 1 Yeah, really injured.

Speaker 1 I think the Colts are going to have 10 wins this year.

Speaker 1 You think Sean Payton ever did a bounty on a punter? I'm sure. Bounty on everybody.
Yeah. Who is their punter? Was that Morstead back then? Was it too early for him?

Speaker 1 I bet you Greg Williams, yeah, was like punter. Just anyone.
Yeah, Water Boy. He's like, I want a chain gang.
I want as many carts carts on the field.

Speaker 1 Oh, speaking of that guy, chain gang guy, good news for him. Yeah.
Not as bad as it looked. Wow.
It looks horrific. It looked awful.
Oh, so he will walk at some point again in his life.

Speaker 1 It was a dislocated knee, but it was a cleanly. Oh, that sounds bad.
It was a cleanly dislocated knee, so apparently he doesn't need surgery or anything. He just popped it back in?

Speaker 1 His leg bent 90 degrees to the side, and then they popped it back, and I think he's going to be okay. Do they give you, do they put you under for the pop back in? They should.
I would request a coma.

Speaker 1 They're like, I know it's not surgery, but please, sir. That's again anesthesia.

Speaker 1 When you watch players dislocate their fingers, which happens every week, and they just go to the sideline, pop it back in. That to me is like the craziest part of being an NFL player.
But yeah.

Speaker 1 So gross.

Speaker 1 I guess they popped it back in.

Speaker 1 That's good for him. Great for him.
They should have made more fun of him. They probably would have had to just put him down at that age.

Speaker 1 If you break your leg, take out a curtain, tear out the patella, ACL, Limp CL. If it's a knee explode.

Speaker 1 His knee in that moment looked like I'm expecting Juju Smith Schuster's knee to look like at any moment this year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've told this story before, but I was at the game when Joe Paw got rolled up on

Speaker 1 his sideline by a Wisconsin player and the whole crowd chanted, shoot him like a horse.

Speaker 1 Maybe actually not so bad in retrospect. Do they shoot horses? Yeah, they shoot horses.
Well,

Speaker 1 they don't shoot them. They used to shoot them.
Now they just euthanize them. Yeah, make some glue out of Paterno.
Yeah, but a whole crowd chanting shoot him like a horse. Joe Paw.

Speaker 1 We actually ended up being right. Turn him into like a starburst.
Yeah. Yeah.
Use all that gelatin in his hooves. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Bengals also, Jake Browning, we need to remember this,

Speaker 1 is a great lesson in time and place and skill positions around you. Because Jake Browning looked really good on Monday night.
And it shouldn't have been that shocking.

Speaker 1 It was a little shocking, but it also shouldn't have been that shocking because, oh, yeah, the Bengals have like awesome wide receivers. Yeah, they've got a great roster.

Speaker 1 And this is actually a perfect moment.

Speaker 1 Jake, if you're a listener of this podcast, which we know know you are i'd say it's probably like 50 50 right jake yes journeyman seems like the guy journeyman backup quarterback what up jake we always been a fan of you huge fan have that ground beef and that honey um jake oh that's funny i actually just thought of that like he so the ground beef and honey and his name's browning interesting yeah when you combine maybe that was him doing that like i'm just browning the hamburger i'm browning the meat jake uh now is the time to fake a deep tissue injury.

Speaker 1 No, no, win one more game. I think right now you're coming off.
I don't think it gets gets better than Monday night. No, but that was

Speaker 1 always there was a one-off. We learned our Matt Flynn

Speaker 1 lesson a long time ago. You got to do two.

Speaker 1 I don't know if every GM did it.

Speaker 1 If I were Jake Browning, I would walk out, take one snap, and then be like, oh, my hamstring. Ah, damn it.
Do you know what he needs to do? He needs to add one thing to his repertoire.

Speaker 1 He needs to get hit really hard and be okay and be like, that guy's tough. Bounce back up.
He's also tough.

Speaker 1 Okay, so take a big sack and then bounce right back up and then go to the sidelines and and start moving your arm around be like, oh, I think they're

Speaker 1 broken. It's my labrum.
Oh, shit. Where's my check? Yeah, because you will.

Speaker 1 Jake Browning, if this is your body of work right now, and I mean, if you happen to beat the Colts this weekend, you have a Monday night victory in front of the world, then you go and you beat the Colts, you have earned yourself, my friend, probably $20 million.

Speaker 1 Although, I would make the argument that Jake Browning,

Speaker 1 yeah, money's cool. He could go maybe, I don't know if anyone would, he'd have to put in more work to be like

Speaker 1 someone sign him for a starter, but he might just be like the Jim Sorgi to Peyton Manning. If you're just career Joe Burrows backup, that's the best life ever.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because you're also on a loaded team. Yeah.
So like that might be

Speaker 1 like what's the cost?

Speaker 1 If he got paid too much, how much does he get paid? Let's see how much he gets paid right now. He's been in the league for a while, so I'm going to guess probably around like $3 million.

Speaker 1 He gets one year, $750. Oh, he's getting paid $750 right now.
So if you're Jake Browning

Speaker 1 and someone offered you, yeah, he's made $1.7 total. So he's getting paid $750 this year.

Speaker 1 If

Speaker 1 the Bengals paid you $2 million and someone else tried to pay you $4 million

Speaker 1 to be a starter on a shitty team, I think I'd take the two. Oh, yeah.
No, I'm not talking about like getting a starting job. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm saying like this is a great chance for you to get paid as a backup. Yeah, just get paid a little bit more as a backup.
The Bengals can be like, hey, we have a real backup.

Speaker 1 You know what I would do? Get to the playoffs and you actually would get a starting job. What I would do if I were Jake Browning, I would try to get a Deshaun Watson type contract, but as a backup.

Speaker 1 So like I go for seven years, fully guaranteed 2.5 a year. Yeah.
That's pretty good, right? That would be hilarious. A seven-year,

Speaker 1 $8 million total cash. Yeah.
Guaranteed. I mean, if you're Jake Browning, that's pretty good.
Yeah. Signing bonus, maybe 50K.
You get 50K and yeah, you get like maybe a nice like Jeep Wrangler. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake Browning, good for you, though. We're rooting for you.
And thanks for listening.

Speaker 10 I always take pride when I share a name with someone who does good things in sports.

Speaker 1 Fans of Jake's? Yeah. Friend of Jake's.

Speaker 10 By when Dan Campbell wins games, you're like, that's my name.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 10 PFT won. Mike Florio writes a great article.

Speaker 1 I'm like, that's your name. That's PFT.
Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't do that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it's cool that you do. Yeah.
He's got 12. All right,

Speaker 1 I'm going to DM him right now. His DMs are open.
I'm just like, Jake, we're rooting for you. Jake, fake an injury.
If you have a good first half

Speaker 1 for for you this weekend,

Speaker 1 thanks for listening to the show.

Speaker 10 I lucked. He doesn't follow PMT on Instagram.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he doesn't follow me, but his DMs are open, so I just hit him up. Okay.
I bet Spencer knows him. Yeah, he probably does.
Okay, I'll text Spencer in a little bit. Okay.
Nerd nugget.

Speaker 1 Doot, doo-doo-doo. Oh, this is early.
Nerd nugget of the week. That was early.
That was a painful one, Jake.

Speaker 1 Would you rather be in a room 24 hours with Max and Hank or have to listen to doot-doo-doo sound? One time? Yeah. Probably in a room with Max.
Yeah, I'd agree. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I am actually jealous of them right now.
They look like they're having a great time. Yeah, they do.

Speaker 10 This is the I-74 rivalry. Cincinnati versus Indianapolis is the closest geographical rivalry among cities in the AFC with a driving distance of 110 miles along I-74.

Speaker 10 The next closest is Cleveland-Pittsburgh at 137 miles.

Speaker 1 Ooh, fantastic.

Speaker 10 Yeah, so there's a lot of blood between these two teams via the map.

Speaker 1 A lot of

Speaker 1 blood map between them. Yes.
What's the closest in the NFL? Would it be

Speaker 10 Rams and Chargers?

Speaker 1 I was going to say Rams Chargers, yeah. But like teams that play in different stadiums.

Speaker 10 I would guess like Dolphins, Bucs.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I think maybe Commanders. It's definitely Commanders Ravens.

Speaker 10 Oh yeah, Commanders-Ravens.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 I got a sneaky one for you that I always forget about because they don't even play in the same conference, but Atlanta and Nashville. It's like four hours apart.
Same mechanics.

Speaker 1 I never think about that, that Atlanta and Nashville are four hours apart. I would also say Eagles-Ravens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Eagles-Ravens. It was really close.
Eagles. Commanders.

Speaker 10 New York, too, and Eagles. Yeah.
Yeah. The Northeast is all just jumbled.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Megalopolis. Okay.
So that was your nerd nugget of the week was a map. Yep.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 10 Shout out to Bengals PR for this.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, you. Bengals PR.
Well, it was in their game notes. Oh.
I forgot. Oh, they did the map notes.
Yeah, yeah. Jake doesn't doesn't like come up with these on his own.

Speaker 1 I thought, for a second there, I thought he hit up Bengals' PR. I was like, what's a nugget? And they're like, well, we're actually pretty close.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do they stay overnight?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have to. I'm sure they have to.
Do you have to have to?

Speaker 10 No, but they're not going to leave like 7 a.m.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're definitely doing that for body, like for being able to wake up in a hotel.

Speaker 10 I'm pretty sure home teams stay at a hotel, too. Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 They always do, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Jags at Browns.
I have a question for you, PFT. So there is now a report that Trevor Lawrence might play.

Speaker 1 And we like Trevor Lawrence, so no disrespect for what I'm about to say. But if Trevor Lawrence plays, does that make him tough or a pussy?

Speaker 1 Well, that's an interesting question.

Speaker 1 It's a conundrum.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 when he left the field,

Speaker 1 and we talked about this on Tuesday, when he left the field, every Jaguars fan thought, not only is this season over,

Speaker 1 but next year's

Speaker 1 too. The way he like slammed his helmet down on the ground.
Again, just me, I would never leave a game like that. I would stay in.
I would never get tackled.

Speaker 1 But sometimes a sprain is worse than a break. Correct.

Speaker 1 This is a very

Speaker 1 fine line we're walking because

Speaker 1 it would be tough to play, but also be like, dude, what was that reaction? It's like when Mac Jones was crying with an ankle sprain. It's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I thought you never were going to walk again. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think we have to look back. And I mentioned it to Chaps.
I was like, Chaps, I'm going to say something to you that I will not say on the show. I ended up saying on the show anyways.

Speaker 1 But Trevor Lawrence, kind of a pussy. Yeah.
And then Chaps was like, well, here's what he was actually crying about. He was crying because he was mad that he couldn't finish the game with his guys.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. That's fair.
That's a football guy. That's a great spin zone.
So I actually think Trevor Lawrence should not play just so that...

Speaker 1 We can have some time where it's like, ooh, that was a real injury. Then next week he becomes tough.
Yeah. Because next week it's like, yeah, 10 days of rehab.
He's back. Tough.

Speaker 1 They need to say, like, doctors said it would take me six weeks. I'm back in two.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This game is going to be weird, though. This is going to be a weather game.
Yeah. We have a few weather games.
We got some weather going on.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be like 20 mile an hour winds or above in Cleveland. It's going to have rain.
We might get grapple, which that's... Apparently weather that only Cleveland gets.

Speaker 1 The geography of Cleveland is so interesting because it's right on the lake and it's got all this crazy wind and all this crazy precipitation that comes in.

Speaker 1 They're the only city that I know of that gets grapple because I've never heard of grapple before, but it's like it's dirty sleet.

Speaker 1 It's like that shit that you find at the end of February that's been frozen on the roads for the last four months. In a parking lot, in a Target parking lot? Yeah, that's all just the piles.

Speaker 1 Cleveland is basically America's rainforest. Yes.
When it comes to

Speaker 1 how weird and random the weather can be. Yeah, and there's so many different species of animals that that live there.
Actually, a good, like, yeah, Cleveland's our rainforest. I like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't destroy Cleveland. Yeah.
You're probably destroying the cure for cancer. Yeah, right.
We need Cleveland. Cleveland is the oxygen hub of America.
Yeah, it's America's lungs.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I actually think that if Trevor Lawrence plays, that's bad for the Jags because the Jags have been very good with moving him and having him run for first downs.

Speaker 1 And if he plays, there's no way he's going to be 100% on the ankle.

Speaker 1 And if you're playing against the Browns defensive line and they have a quarterback back there that you know can't like scramble, they're just going to tee off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, counterpoint to that, though, you'd probably still want an immobile Trevor Lawrence over C.J. Bethard.

Speaker 1 Well, third-round pick, right? Yeah, it's a fair counterpoint.

Speaker 1 The other big injury here, and I actually think this is a significant injury for this game specifically. So

Speaker 1 remember back week one, I think it was, Christian Kirk had a bad game. Everyone was like, Christian Kirk's going to be awesome in this offense.

Speaker 1 And then after that, Doug Peterson said, I can't remember who they played week one, but he's like, yeah, they played a lot of zone. Christian Kirk

Speaker 1 thrives against man defense. So he has, and if you look at the stats, like throughout the season, when they play heavy man defenses, Christian Kirk usually goes off.

Speaker 1 The Browns are the number one man defense.

Speaker 1 So that's actually a huge injury for this specific game, Christian Kirk being out. So he, yeah, he would have gone off.

Speaker 1 He would have been their antidote to what the Browns want to do defensively, and now they don't have that.

Speaker 1 Well, so if you're the Jaguars, if you lose this game, you say it would have been totally different if Christian Kirk had been... Correct.
So that's a good built-in excuse. Correct.

Speaker 1 In addition to maybe a backup quarterback. More Flacco, more fun.
More fun. More fun for the people.
Let's see Joe. Let Joe air it out.
He's used to playing.

Speaker 1 That's why the Ravens took him as high as they did.

Speaker 1 The story was that he played at Delaware. He played at Pittsburgh for a little bit.
He's used to playing in shitty weather. In the AFC North, you have to play a lot of shitty weather games.

Speaker 1 That's why they took Joe. Also, big hand, strong arm.
This is going to be a classic Joe Flacco shitty weather game. What's the crowd reaction to Joe Flacco? Is it full cheer?

Speaker 1 I don't think you can full cheer him yet. I think.
It beat your fucking brain in. I'm going to look up Joe Flacco versus the Browns.
But I don't think they ever had real animosity towards Joe Flacco.

Speaker 1 Hating Joe Flacco was like hating a dog. Joe Flacco's record versus the Browns.
Want to guess? 21 games?

Speaker 1 18 and 3. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? No, I swear, I guess.

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 1 18 and 3. I was going to say 18 and 3, too.
Yeah, you were right. I was right.
Thanks. Good job, Hifty.
18 and 3. Thanks, Jake.
Very cool. So he did kill the Browns.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I don't think everyone killed the Browns back. I don't think they hate Joe more than they hate Peyton Manning.
I want the Browns to win this game. I want the Browns to be in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for the Browns to make the playoffs. So am I.
I'm heavily rooting for the Browns to make the playoffs. All right, nerd nugget.

Speaker 10 For the third time in team history, the Browns have started four different players at quarterback in a season: Deshaun Watson, P.J. Walker, DTR, and Joe Flacco.

Speaker 10 In 2008, they had Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, Ken Dorsey, and Bruce Gradkowski, who we saw on Grit Week at Toledo. And in 1988, Bernie Kosar, Mike

Speaker 10 Pagel, Don Strzok, and Gary Danielson.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah, I mean, it's classic Browns.

Speaker 1 The quarterbacks they've had this year will be a nice little addition to that sad jersey because you got Deshaun.

Speaker 1 Then you've got two guys that probably won't play there much anymore after this season. You'll kind of forget their names over the years.
Yeah. Maybe DTR.

Speaker 1 I had the stat a few weeks ago. It was something insane.
Like in the last... 10 years, it was like 35 different quarterbacks played for the Browns.

Speaker 1 And that includes two seasons where Baker Mayfield didn't miss a start. Yeah.
It's crazy. And you also get Flacco on there, and that'll be a nice combo breaker when you look back on it.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You remember Flacco was a Brown? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Next up, Lions at Bears.

Speaker 1 I think the Bears can win this game. So you're not insane to say that.

Speaker 1 I think like a month ago it would have been like, okay, Baquette's trying to talk himself up, get himself ramped up for a game here.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be another city weather game.

Speaker 1 It's cleared up a little. You get the early reports.

Speaker 1 like the the it's funny how the gambling works like the um i saw the the bengals colts game had bad weather reported on monday and it went all the way down to like 41 and then on tuesday they're like nope just kidding and it went right back up to 44.

Speaker 1 so you got to be careful of the of the early reports so i guess it was an early report that i saw but the bears look it up the bears are looking way way way better than they were a month ago the lions um feeling hot right now 36 36 degrees no precipitation That's not bad.

Speaker 1 I don't think a look-ahead game exists in Dan Campbell's universe. I think Dan Campbell respects the game of football.
No, they're not going to look ahead because the Bears

Speaker 1 almost beat the Lions three weeks ago. So I don't think that that's a possibility.

Speaker 1 I think the Bears can win this game for a couple reasons. One, the Bears' run defense has been...
much improved. I think they're number one against the run in like the last month.

Speaker 1 That's what the Lions want to do.

Speaker 1 Two,

Speaker 1 Frank Ragnow, possibly out, center for the Lions. Also, you know how we love to do who's the most important player on a team? And Lions fans, you can tell me I'm stupid.

Speaker 1 You can tell me this makes no sense. I think it's Jerry Goff.
Well, no, on their defense,

Speaker 1 Alim McNeil, their defensive tackle, is out. And he, if you watch the Lions, like he has been the guy in the middle who's been able to keep things together.

Speaker 1 He got put on IR.

Speaker 1 He's very, very important. Not like a name that everyone knows, but he's very, very important.

Speaker 1 on and then three justin fields against the lions they have never been able to stop him running he's averaged uh 127 yards against the lions yeah on the on the ground running there were there was one game last year we just went off on him yes and did some very remember he had that that touchdown where he like just broke every crush that uh linebacker in the end zone yes so and that now you could say also uh counterpoint it's still luke getzy and and matt eberflues and i'd say you know what that's a really good counterpoint because the bears will always find a way to lose a game.

Speaker 1 But I just, yeah, I think the Bears might be able to win this one. And Lions fans know we've talked about it.
Like, their defense is troubling. Very troubling.
It's troubling.

Speaker 1 And I still think the Lions are a really good team. So it's not like trying to shit on the Lions.
Their offense is elite. They just have to figure out, and they will get guys back.

Speaker 1 They'll get guys healthier. So they can hope that, you know, late December, early January, they start to turn a corner.
But right now, I'd put it under the troubling category. It's concerning to me.

Speaker 1 If I was Elon Musk replying to a tweet, I would say this game, concerning for the Lions' defense. Their defense last week against the Saints was very bad for about two and a half quarters.

Speaker 1 That game felt like it was out of reach after seven minutes. No, no, no, no, no.
No. Like, nothing, no lead is safe, really, if you're a Detroit fan.

Speaker 1 And they're getting, yeah, I think what, Anzalone's been out.

Speaker 1 C.J. Gardner Johnson has been out.
Like, they have a few guys that are going to come back. Elien McNeil will hopefully come back.
I think he got put on, I think they said four weeks.

Speaker 1 And I I think they signed another guy in place. So, yeah, maybe they'll be able to turn around once they get healthy.
Get healthy at the right time. I do love Branch.
I love Branch. He's a beast.

Speaker 1 He's a monster. There was a very mean report that came out yesterday.

Speaker 1 It said Brian Branch said that the Washington Commanders said that they were going to draft him if he was still on the board with a 16th pick, and then they just didn't do it.

Speaker 1 And he's like, glad that we didn't take him, which is fair. Like, I'd probably be glad if I was a defensive player that did not get drafted by the commanders.

Speaker 1 But to put that report out now, it's like one of my favorite rookies wanted to play on the team that I love. And then he's like, but they just didn't take me.
It's unnecessary.

Speaker 1 Rubbing salt in the wounds like this coach's graphic that they show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's just one. This season's been hard enough.
We're losing all our good players. Our pets' heads are falling off.
I don't need to know that Brian Branch wanted to play for my team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, B enemy is going to be the next coach of the Bears. Like, this sucks.
Congratulations. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 We'll see. We'll see what happens on Sunday.
This is why they play the games.

Speaker 1 I hope Lions fans know know

Speaker 1 I do come in peace because it's like the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And I have not gotten...
I think we talked about this before the season. There will be a moment when the Lions are good enough

Speaker 1 and start winning enough that I will start hating them because in division. I have not reached that moment.
Like, I don't hate the Lions. Yeah, I mean.
And I root for Jared.

Speaker 1 That would be way premature if you start the Lions. No, they have to start stacking up some NFC North, you know,

Speaker 1 titles, and I'm like, yeah, fuck, I hate them because they keep winning this. But it hasn't gotten there yet.
It's still still all eyes on

Speaker 1 the Packers and how much I hate them. If the Lions win this weekend, I think I'm going to crown them champions of the NFC North.

Speaker 1 They'll be pretty close. I'm going to anoint them.
They'll be pretty close. They're getting close to their magic number.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Nerd nugget.

Speaker 10 Lions tight end Sam Laporta is just the sixth player in NFL history and first tight end to produce 60 receptions, 675 yards, and six touchdowns through 12 career games.

Speaker 10 He joins Justin Jefferson, Michael Thomas, OBJ, Marcus Colston, and Kwan Bold.

Speaker 1 He's a beast. He's so good.
He's an absolute.

Speaker 10 Have those numbers as a tight end?

Speaker 1 We talked to Gronk in a minute, and he mentioned Sam Laporta.

Speaker 1 For people who are watching the YouTube right now, Max is now just doing the balloon by himself. Hank has quit on the balloon.
It's very funny. Maybe they're going in shifts.

Speaker 1 Maybe Max is going, then Hank gets sloppy side. I can see Hank just being like, you know, I'm your boss.
Pass it around. Here, you take the balloon.
Okay, next up, Bucks at Falcons.

Speaker 1 This could decide the NFC South.

Speaker 1 I think it probably will. If the Falcons win, it would be hard for them not to win the NFC South.
The Falcons aren't dead if they lose. By no means.
No, because they already beat the Bucs. It's a tie.

Speaker 1 But, yeah, if the Falcons win this game, I will anoint them as NFC South champions.

Speaker 1 And I feel like the Bucs defense is getting by a little bit on reputation these days, and they have a ton of injuries. Still got Kaliji Cancey.
They do. So many TFLs.

Speaker 1 Which I meant to talk to you about.

Speaker 1 Should we maybe put a little on Will Anderson?

Speaker 1 Let me see. Because Will Anderson, I think, like

Speaker 10 a nerd dogging on him later on.

Speaker 1 Jalen Carter, I think, is the favorite and Devin Witherspoon. But if the Texans go to the playoffs, I think Will Anderson, like he had two sacks last week.

Speaker 1 He's starting to, he might be the guy right now. I'm trying to find the favorite.
I think he's plus 350. I think it might be a Will Anderson bet time.
Let's see. Defensive rookie of the year.

Speaker 1 I think where are we at?

Speaker 1 I think we need to go. Jalen Carter's minus 200.
Will Anderson's plus 350. Brian Branch plus 4,000.

Speaker 1 I'll sprinkle on Will. I think Will might win it.
I'm also going to sprinkle on Brian. If the Texans get to the playoffs, I think that they'll clean up on some of these awards.

Speaker 1 Well, they're going to get CJ for sure. Right.
He's like locked in right now. Although Puka.
Puka. Puka.
Dapuka. Not bad.
Dapuka. Comeback player of the year, maybe Mechie.

Speaker 1 Mechie's going to be stepping up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tank Dell out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like the Falcons in this game. And I'm just going back to what no one in the NFC South excites me, but if I had to pick, it would be the Falcons.
The Falcons, they can be fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, and I just, like, I wish Taylor Heineke was playing,

Speaker 1 but in terms of being in the playoffs, I don't want to watch the Bucks in the playoffs. I don't want to watch the Saints in the playoffs.
I could talk myself into watching the Falcons in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I think the Falcons might be a team you don't want to play in the playoffs. I don't think that's true.
Because they can muck it up.

Speaker 1 I think whoever it will most likely be the Cowboys, I think they'll be fine playing the Falcons in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 They'll be more than happy to go play the Falcons in the playoffs. They're going to be the most disrespected team in the playoffs.
And rightfully so.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 why are the Falcons hosting a playoff game? Yeah, and rightfully so. But still.
I might unload on the Cowboys now that we're saying it. Okay, nerd nugget.

Speaker 10 Buccaneers wide receiver Mike Evans, as we mentioned the other day, now has 1,000 receiving yards. It's his fifth career season with that,

Speaker 10 having 1,000 receiving yards and 10 or more receiving touchdowns. That ties him for the fifth most in NFL history.

Speaker 10 Every player with at least five seasons of 10 touchdowns and 1,000 yards, all in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's been incredible.
What do you think about Baker? So if the Bucs in their season, let's just say they're 8-9 at the end of the year.

Speaker 1 Probably realistic, right? Maybe 7-10. But if they're 8-9,

Speaker 1 what are the chances Baker comes back to the Bucs next year? I think he comes back. I think they'll probably draft someone.
Yeah. But I think they're done with Trask.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think if Trask trask hasn't taken over the job by now he would have done there's probably a reason for that he would have done it uh okay next up texans oh no sorry panthers it's saints

Speaker 1 gross gross the only thing i had on this game is uh i oftentimes struggle with uh a narrative and when to when the narrative actually dies

Speaker 1 example uh like Oregon when they switched from Chip Kelly, just, you know, when they had a couple string of bad coaches, and I was like, but it's Oregon. They're going to be good offensively.

Speaker 1 Like, they're going to score 70 points.

Speaker 1 I can't get it out of my head if I know a team is one way. And then all this evidence shows me something else.
I'm like, no, but it's so hard.

Speaker 1 This is exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 My point is

Speaker 1 the dome is not.

Speaker 1 It's not a homefield advantage right now. So the Saints are 0-5 against the spread this year at home.
They're 0-7 in their last 7 against the spread at home.

Speaker 1 They're 5-15 against the spread at home since 2021. The dome is not the dome.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 the dome has been aging along with a lot of their roster. Right.
So it's like, but in your head, you always say when there's a game in New Orleans, you're like,

Speaker 1 tough place to play. I think the dome has...

Speaker 1 The dome picks and chooses its moments. So like a big third down, the dome can still bring it for like one play.
But it can't sustain it. But it doesn't sustain it.

Speaker 1 No, it's like an aging veteran that you put in to rush the passer on third and longs, and that's their specialty. That's kind kind of what the dome's at right now.

Speaker 1 The dome doesn't have, needs to get its cardio up. Yeah, well, I don't know if the dome can get its cardio to the point that it once was.
Yeah. You just.
They need good players.

Speaker 1 That's probably what would get the dome back. Yeah, they need.

Speaker 1 The second that they don't start anybody on offense that was also around during the Drew Brees era, at that point, then I think the Dome could get its mojo back.

Speaker 1 Because the easier way to say it is it has nothing to do with the Dome, and it's the fact the Saints just stink. Wait, the Dome, don't discount the Dome.
I'm not discounting the Dome.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying you could alternately say, well, yeah, because they're not good. The dome is, it's had an off couple years.
It is the first time I think they have this 0-5

Speaker 1 against Sprint since like 1980. It's also cool that they just get to call their dome the dome.
The dome. It's the dome.
It is the dome. It's not the super dome.
Like other domes, they exist.

Speaker 1 There are other stadiums that have domes. But if you were to say, like

Speaker 1 Atlanta,

Speaker 1 you don't call that the dome. No, that's Mercedes-Benz.
That's the butthole. Yeah.
Ice. It's the dome.
It's where they don't serve Chick-fil-A on Sundays. Yep.
Dome is just a great name. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love Dome. I do too.
I love everybody. Big fan of Dome.
Huge fan. Jake, you love Dome?

Speaker 1 Can't say I hate it. Mr.
Positions. All right.
All right.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I kind of want to take the Panthers in this game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I still don't know what to make about Tabor, the interim coach.

Speaker 1 There was a report that came out this week that it was like the Hunger Games inside the facility where other coaches were like texting with

Speaker 1 Pepper behind Frank Reich's back. Is that really behind the head coach's back?

Speaker 1 On an NFL team, is it normal for only the head coach to have a relationship with the owner? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Because I feel like a functional work environment, it's like everybody should be in contact with everybody that wants to talk to them.

Speaker 1 No, I would say that the special teams coach probably doesn't talk to the owner very often. It depends, I guess, on what's being said.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like if Tepper's reaching out to the special teams guy and he's like, hey, Chris, what do you think about Frank's play call last week when it was fourth down and he he went for it?

Speaker 1 And then if you're doing that kind of back and forth, then yeah, that's Hunger Game shit. Yeah.
I also, the Panthers, I'll say this. JC Horn is back.

Speaker 1 He played last week in limited amounts, but he's going to be ramped up this week. He does change their defense.
Yeah. So I think I'm going to take the Panthers.

Speaker 1 Again, if you're a Saints fan, and I had a lot of Saints fans reach out to me and they agreed, like, they should not be winning games now.

Speaker 1 Getting into the playoffs this year for the Saints is bad for the future of the franchise.

Speaker 1 They need the full reset. Give me a full Taysom game.
Give me Taysom all the way. We might get Jameis.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
I feel like... Derek Carr just doesn't want to sit.

Speaker 1 I made the switch last week where I thought to myself, like, Taysom as a starting quarterback, I think he gives you the best chance to win right now if you have him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he's so hard to plan for. But Derek Carr, like, this guy won't just sit down for a game.
Let me see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's limited in practice. He's tough.

Speaker 1 Just let Jameis play. It also just occurred to me me that there's a chance that David Tepper himself was the source of the Hunger Games quote.
Yeah. Because in his mind, he's like,

Speaker 1 I run such a tight ship around here, and everybody fears me that they think it's the Hunger Games. And he thinks that's cool.
Yeah. There's a good chance that that's what happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he definitely. It wasn't like somebody complaining about being pitted against their coworker.
Yeah. Tepper wants people to know that's how I run it.
Welcome to the Hunger Games. Yeah.

Speaker 1 David Tepper joint. Okay, Nerd Nugget.

Speaker 10 Last week, Saints running back Alvin Kamara surpassed Marcus Colston and become the franchise's total yards from scrimmage leader at 9,809. So he's 191 away from 10,000 yards.

Speaker 1 Okay. As a Saint.

Speaker 1 Last early game, Texans and Jets.

Speaker 1 Memes,

Speaker 1 I got bad news for you.

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to take the Jets. I think Zach Wilson is the spark.

Speaker 1 I do. I think he's the spark.
You're not trolling? No, I keep thinking about it more and more, and it's like,

Speaker 1 it's maybe less Zach Wilson and more just looking at the board and being like, everyone's going to say Texans minus three and a half is the easiest bet.

Speaker 1 They pay those guys on the Jets to play football, too. And Zach Wilson might be a spark.
So it's the saddest spark ever. No, I would say.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. No, no, no.
I think it is.

Speaker 1 I think it is. No, we said it.
Tim Boyle to Tim Boyle. Trevor Simeon to Tim Boyle.
Tim Simeon filling in.

Speaker 1 That's a sad spark. Going back to Zach Wilson.
That's sadder, but for much, much different reasons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, but I still think the benching Trevor Simeon for Tim Boyle is the saddest spark you can ever do.

Speaker 1 At that point, it was about more like just not having Tim Boyle on the field, like anybody but Tim Boyle.

Speaker 1 With Zach Wilson, it's like maybe he's learned how to play quarterback in the last week. Yeah.
Maybe fresh. Fresh legs.
Maybe these last three years, we can just kind of put those out the window.

Speaker 1 Maybe now is the time. Something clicked.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did something click for Zach Wilson during this last week? Was getting benched in that fashion a wake-up call for young Zach?

Speaker 9 It's a good question.

Speaker 1 It could be.

Speaker 1 Memes? I think he's the only like

Speaker 1 semi-mobile quarterback left in the room. Like Trevor Simeon took three steps immediately, got hit.
Maybe that's why they're putting him back in because Salah hates him and wants him to get hurt.

Speaker 2 There was that report

Speaker 1 from Joe Beningo, the WFAN. Radio host.
He had a text message with Robert Salah,

Speaker 1 and he leaked it on on air and made it sound like Robert Salah hated Zach Wilson. Yeah,

Speaker 1 this could be coach being like, I'm so mad at you for you. I had to start you so many times this season when I didn't want to.
Now I'm going to start you, and hopefully you're going to get destroyed.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This could be a vengeance start from Salah. It's very possible, and I think the defense might even be like a week or two away from just completely quitting.
I think, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think they're a game-to-game quit watch. Like we saw the Dolphins Dolphins game as the halftime.

Speaker 9 Yeah, last week they were still flying on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they almost, it was a chance for a second there that was like, hey, maybe they're going to win this game 2-0. I love it when defenses fly around out there.
That's my favorite.

Speaker 1 And then you also have the rookie quarterback. CJ Stroud is due for a rookie quarterback game.
No tank Dell. No Tank Dell.
It's an elite defense. Robert Salah knows D'Amico Ryans very well.

Speaker 1 Kind of a master in

Speaker 1 student in the pupil. Is that no? Matt

Speaker 1 teacher student. Teacher student.
No.

Speaker 1 Teacher and pupil. Teacher and pupil.
I said student and pupil. Yeah.
I don't even know why I'm trying to talk myself into this. Well, I'll give you because I started this snowball.

Speaker 1 There's a certain young man that's coming back this weekend, expected to make a big, big difference on the Jets' offense. Oh, we're talking Spark? Big Spark for the Jets.

Speaker 1 People have been talking about this guy for the last couple weeks. Like, when's he going to get out there on the field? There have been videos of him warming up all the time.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 When is this guy going to play?

Speaker 1 Izzy. Izzy season.
Izzy.

Speaker 1 It's officially Izzy season. He is.
It's officially Izzy season. It might be officially Izzy season.
Oh, my God. I'm going to have to bet this fucking guy who's never even going to get in the game.

Speaker 1 No, he's going to get in this week, right? There's no chance. He never gets in.

Speaker 9 It's not confirmed, but Brees Hall was.

Speaker 1 Brees Hall said he was going to play.

Speaker 1 But will he be 100%? Will he be 100%? Would you rather have 60% Brees Hall or 110% Izzy? 60% Brees Hall. 110% Izzy.

Speaker 1 60% Brees Hall. 110% Izzy.
Give me a. Take a 10% Brees Hall.
I take Brees Hall.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have legs. Feed me Izzy.
All right, let's just do Brees Hall and Izzy. No, the Jets are going to score two touchdowns?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? Without Dalvin Cook. You can't.
The Jets.

Speaker 1 Betting the Jets to score two touchdowns would be the craziest bet ever. But now, fuck, now maybe they will.
Yeah, I objected last week when they said they lost a one-score game.

Speaker 1 With the Jets, that's not a one-score game. Also,

Speaker 1 that's like a force-safety game.

Speaker 1 Here's something for you, memes.

Speaker 1 The last eight Texans games, lost by two, one by seven, one by two, one by two, one by three, one by five, lost by three, one by five. My point, they don't really, these games are always tight.

Speaker 1 They can be better than a team, and it will come down to the last possession.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to take the Jets, memes. Texans playing fun games.
I think we're going to take the Jets memes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Nerd nugget.

Speaker 10 So I confused Will Anderson and Derek Stingley. This is about Derek Stingley.

Speaker 1 That's a huge mistake.

Speaker 10 Yeah, Texans cornerback Derek Stingley is the first player in franchise history to tally four interceptions in a three-game span.

Speaker 10 As the only player in the leagues to accomplish that feat this season, he joins Darius Williams and Matt Milano as the only players to record an interception in three consecutive games

Speaker 1 this year. So wait, you gave us a preview of the nerd nugget and it wasn't even the right guy?

Speaker 10 Well, Will Anderson got brought up a few games ago and I'm like, oh yeah, I have something on him, but it was the wrong thing.

Speaker 1 Different guy. Different Texan.
Different guy. That's on me.
Yeah, your Texans confused.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Late slate. Vikings at Raiders.

Speaker 1 Justin Jefferson back. Jefferson back, which is good because this is another receiver that Josh Dobbs does not have a connection with yet, meaning he will play really well with Justin Jefferson.
Yes.

Speaker 1 That's what he does.

Speaker 1 We looked it up. I think it's the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Yeah. Where you start out and you're really good.
Then the more you know, you get worse. Yes.

Speaker 1 And then at the end, when you're an expert, then you're really good again.

Speaker 1 Justin Jefferson also, Nate Tice, who does a great job, wrote an article about Justin Jefferson in the run game.

Speaker 1 Like, the Vikings' run game is way more efficient when he's on the field, not even because of him as a blocker, but just because of what defenses have to prepare for with Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 1 This game, though, any result wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't think that the Vikings are good enough to be expected to win this game.

Speaker 1 They're favorites on the road. And they're favorites on the road.
And the Raiders are not bad. No.
They've actually been, they've been okay. They've been decent since making the coaching change.

Speaker 1 Like, Josh McDaniels is probably.

Speaker 1 What lies do you think Josh McDaniels is telling himself to explain how they got so much better?

Speaker 1 Because he's not admitting schedule. He's probably doing a big schedule thing.
Yeah, look at it. Like, oh, look how soft it was.
I would have won all these games anyway.

Speaker 1 I didn't get the right opportunity. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stole this from me. That's probably what he's saying, but they're a much better team without him, obviously.

Speaker 1 And I think these are just two.

Speaker 1 This is the mid-off of the week. Yeah.
Vikings, Raiders, mid-off of the week. And whoever wins can tell themselves maybe playoffs, even though I think the Vikings might.

Speaker 1 There was that nice run, but the fact that the Rams and the Packers have looked ascendant

Speaker 1 makes me.

Speaker 1 Don't the Vikings have to play? The Vikings play the Packers. Oh, they play the Packers one more time.
They play the Lions twice. They play the Lions twice.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, maybe they could still make the playoffs. They could.
Oh, yeah, if they beat the Lions twice, they definitely won't. They have to win this game.
They have to win this game.

Speaker 1 They got to win this one. And I mean, if you're a Vikings fan, you've got a team that fights.
You guys have been fighting your dick off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to get a defensive coordinator that at the start of the year looked like somehow this defense might be worse than the defense was last year, but things have gotten into shape over there.

Speaker 1 There was an article that came out about him, about how he invented a new kind of defense this year, like a new way to look at the zone blitz that's never been done in the history of the NFL.

Speaker 1 So, if you're a Vikings fan, you've got that, your defense is better, and you've been fighting in every game. So, you're, I guess you're happy.

Speaker 1 It's like you could say that if Kirk Cousins was still our quarterback, we'd be right in the thick of it. Yeah, and now that I'm looking at it, like, they do have everything in front of them.

Speaker 1 They play the Lions, Packers, and Lions to finish the season. Yeah.
So, yeah. But they got to win this one.
They're fighting. They have to win this one.
This is a must-win.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Nerd nugget for this game.

Speaker 10 Vikings fans are familiar with Raiders receiver Devontae Adams. No player has caught more touchdowns against Minnesota than Adams, who recorded 13 while with the Packers.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Next game.
Broncos and Chargers.

Speaker 1 I like the Broncos in this game, and I'll state my case.

Speaker 1 I was looking at it, PFT. The Chargers' offense stinks now.

Speaker 1 Back to the dome discussion about perception. You're like, oh, Justin Herbert.
They got all these weapons. Austin Eckler looks old.
They can't run the ball.

Speaker 1 Joshua Palmer's been out, so they only have Keenan Allen. PFT, Keenan Allen has the most receptions on the Chargers team.
How many more receptions does he have than the second most?

Speaker 1 I'm going to say he has...

Speaker 1 800 more receptions. He has 71 more receptions.
Okay. The second most receptions on the team.
What are you talking about this year? This year. Okay.
This year. 71.
Yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 1 Keenan Allen needs to be be respected more he does and he so i went and looked at it since joshua palmer has been out because he was he was a good receiver he was a good complimentary piece to keenan allen um keenan allen has accounted for 46 percent of all chargers passing yards yeah it's literally just throw i think brandon sail even said it's like if i could throw it to him like 80 times i would there was one game they threw it to him probably like 25 26 times yeah he's awesome he's he's the most crisp route runner in the nfl so i i say all that That's probably not true, but he's very good.

Speaker 1 I say all that because the Broncos, if they want to do this, who knows if they will, but they could just put Patrick Statan on him.

Speaker 1 And then they have nothing. And they have literally nothing.

Speaker 1 Like, this is a team that is getting by on, I don't even know if they're getting by on reputation anymore because everyone thinks they stink.

Speaker 1 But you do think Chargers, you think offense, like they have so many guys. They don't got anyone.

Speaker 1 It's also a sad state of affairs if you're the Chargers and you're like, people are only talking about us because of our reputation as the Chargers. Right.

Speaker 1 Like that, which is actually a good reputation right although the one thing that's holding him up i think khalil mack is leading the nfl in sacks he is so he's he's having a great season individually he also i think has had the i think he's like four games in a row multiple sacks like he's he's been a beast yeah he's he's still very very good uh this

Speaker 1 this spread chargers minus three um i'm gonna tip my hat to my hat to vegas i think vegas nailed the spread yeah because somebody's winning this game by three points you can do the old mincy yeah tip they got it right they got this one right they got this one right so this is a stay don't need to give a pick they get they got got it right.

Speaker 1 It's a stay away from me. I kind of like the Broncos.
I think they got it right. They got it right.

Speaker 1 Okay, nerd nugget in this game.

Speaker 10 Broncos, wide receiver.

Speaker 10 Cortland Sutton needs one touchdown to become the first Broncos since wide receiver Demarius Thomas and tight end Julius Thomas in 2014 to record double-digit receiving touchdowns in a single season.

Speaker 1 He's good. He's good.
He's good. He's been very good.

Speaker 10 Those teams were amazing, too. Yes.
Peyton's guys.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Bills and Chiefs.

Speaker 1 PFD. I'm going to talk crazy for a second.
Permission to talk crazy. Go off.

Speaker 1 If you think the Bills are going to win this game. I do.
I do too.

Speaker 1 If you think the Bills are going to win this game,

Speaker 1 why not bet them to win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 I guess that's fair. They're 35-1 right now.
It's fair. They have to get like the Bills to me right now.
I don't know if they're going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I think it's probably a toss-up at this point because they do have a tough schedule.

Speaker 1 And if they don't make the playoffs, it's only themselves to blame because they lost games in the beginning of the season to teams that they should have beaten easily. And we know how that went.

Speaker 1 But if they do make the playoffs, and considering all the injuries and weird shit that's happened on all the teams ahead of them,

Speaker 1 why would the Bills not be just as capable as all these other teams who, in their current form, maybe outside of the Ravens, you can say there's a hole there. Yeah, so I understand your logic.

Speaker 1 Their schedule is not super easy. No, it's hard.
So there is a way that they could win this game and then very easily not make the playoffs. But my point is if they

Speaker 1 win this game, the price will go from like 35 to 1 to 20 to 1. Yeah, now would be the time to do it and maybe cash out.

Speaker 1 This is, by the way, we should do an alert because people have been accusing us of glazing the Bills recently. Oh, yeah, I'm glazing the Bills big time.
I'm Jay Glazer over here. I mean, the Bills.

Speaker 1 They're getting glazed.

Speaker 1 I still think they're a very good team. They just have...

Speaker 1 The Bills have only themselves to blame for what has happened this season. They have lost games that they should never have lost, and they lost games to teams that they should have killed.

Speaker 1 They lost to the Patriots. Yep.
Didn't they? Yeah. They lost to the Jets.
They lost to the Jets. They lost to the Broncos when the Broncos were still bad and hadn't put it back together.

Speaker 1 They've lost games. They are only themselves to blame.
But I'm just saying in terms of a value proposition,

Speaker 1 if you told me the Bills were in the playoffs,

Speaker 1 like what would be the argument that they don't have just as much of a chance as every other team, given what's happened in the AFC?

Speaker 1 It's not like the Bills are so much better than everyone else. I think everyone else has come down a little bit.

Speaker 1 I think the value proposition against that would be they're still coached by Sean McDermott. Yeah, and it's been tough.
There was a very interesting article that came out today.

Speaker 1 I don't know if this came across your desk, Big Cat. Came across mine.
Tyler Dunn wrote this

Speaker 1 regarding Sean McDermott and some of the ways that maybe inside the building he's lost some of the team.

Speaker 1 There was an anecdote from 2021 when he was addressing the entire team. This was at St.
John Fisher College in Pittsburgh, New York. McDermott's morning address began innocently enough.

Speaker 1 He told the entire team they needed to come together. But then sources on hand say he used a strange model.
The terrorists on September 11th, 2001. Oh.
He cited the hijackers as.

Speaker 1 This is an athletic plus plus. This is not the athletic premium plus.
This was.

Speaker 1 I don't think when I saw this, I was like,

Speaker 1 I thought to myself, did I tweet this screenshot out? And so I had to to look it up.

Speaker 1 Okay, continue. Wait, sorry.
He cited the hijackers as a group of people who were still able to get on the same page to orchestrate attacks to perfection.

Speaker 1 One by one, McDermott started asking specific players in the room questions. What tactics do you think they used to come together? Oh, man.

Speaker 1 A young player tried to methodically answer, what do you think their biggest obstacle was? A veteran answered, TSA. which mercifully lightened the mood.

Speaker 1 Fact check, TSA did not exist until after 9-11 for a related reason. But yeah,

Speaker 1 if you've reached the point in your motivational speeches where you're asking the guys to emulate the hijackers on September 11th, 2001, on your football team, I think it's time to start asking some questions about

Speaker 1 how can we get this guy just a word-of-the-day calendar that we can all study and rally with. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, let's get back to watching, hell, bring in Sean Payton and have the wildlife channel of like gazelles gazelles getting hunted down by lions and

Speaker 1 lie true truths and lies trust false yeah let's go back maybe let's do another rookie skit icebreaker the rookie skit fun facts goes out there like George W.

Speaker 1 Bush yeah the all right so I I just uh searched Sean McDermott's name on uh Twit X formerly Twitter he spoke to the media today so this is breaking news of the last like 10 minutes uh he said that his intent with the team meeting in 2019 in which he referenced 9-11 was to emphasize the importance of communication.

Speaker 1 He said that he regretted it and apologized to the team soon after for not better communicating his point. That's ironic.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was doing a lesson on communication, and he didn't communicate that you shouldn't use the terrorists on 9-11 as the point to prove about communication.

Speaker 1 He should have had someone come in and speak to him before he talked to the team and use the 9-11 hijackers as an example of how he should be communicating with his team.

Speaker 1 Then he would not have used the example of the 9-11 hijackers when he communicated with his team. Okay, you know what? Everything I said about the Bills winning the Super Bowl, I am throwing out.

Speaker 1 Does not count. Disavow?

Speaker 1 Listen, I didn't expect it to go this way, but

Speaker 1 I think they're going to win this game.

Speaker 1 But the fact that their head coach has to do a press conference today talking about the time that he said that the 9-11 hijackers really communicated well and they're admirable to look at in a team-building standpoint.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I didn't see that one coming.
I'm going to say you can't win a Super Bowl if that happened. I'm going to agree with that.

Speaker 1 You know what? Everything we said, we're no more glazing. We have not glazed anymore.
Part of of my take, we're removing the glaze. Yes.
We are

Speaker 1 on this podcast. If we stand for nothing else, we're anti-Nazi and we are anti-9-11 hijackers.
That legitimately changed. I disavow.
I was going to bet the bills, and I will not. I can't.

Speaker 1 Like, what are we talking about?

Speaker 11 It's the old drill tweet.

Speaker 1 Like, under no circumstances do you have to hand it to the 9-11 hijackers. Yeah.
All right, Chiefs. All right, Chiefs.
Chiefs, it is. I think I got to fix my advisors pick.

Speaker 1 People are going to say you're pro 9-11 now. Yeah, when they see advisors, and they're like, oh, you picked the bills.
I can't. Material change.
That was taped on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Can we go back to our interview with Sean McDermott and just add to the lower third? Part of my take does not endorse the 9-11 hijackers to just run during that interview. I wish we had known this.

Speaker 1 This would have been a good clip for us to bring up. It would have, yeah.
I'm actually shocked that none of this came out before now. Yeah.
You know, they say like...

Speaker 1 It actually is a sign that he is in trouble because someone's been holding that. Yes.
They're like, I know that I can just say this to a reporter at some point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because when you're winning football games, nobody cares what motivational tactics you uses.

Speaker 1 But the second things go south, all of a sudden that 9-11 speech that you gave gets brought up.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah, shocking.
Shocking, even as far as NFL head coach motivational tactics go. Yeah.
Okay. I'm going to have to change my pick to the Chiefs everywhere.

Speaker 1 Okay. Nerd nugget.

Speaker 10 The offenses led by Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes may end up stealing the show here, but both the Bills and Chiefs have three players each with at least six sacks this season.

Speaker 10 Tie for the second most in the NFL. The Dolphins lead the league with four players who have at least six sacks.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs' defense, I'm a little worried about because I think maybe Nick Bolton is coming back, but they had Nick Bolton go down, I think, in the Chargers game. Then Drew Tranquil went down

Speaker 1 last week in the Green Bay game with a concussion. Both, like, those are the guys, the green dot guys, who were

Speaker 1 communicating the entire defense. And you could tell in the Packers game, like, it was a drop-off.

Speaker 1 So I think Nick Bolton is going to play.

Speaker 1 I don't know what Drew Tranquil, if you can get out of concussion protocol that quick, but that is something to watch because that is part of like Steve Spagnola wants to do some funky ass shit.

Speaker 1 You probably can't get it. It's very rare that a player now comes out of concussion protocol within the week.
Brock Purdy did. Brock Purdy did.
He's elite. He's built differently.
He's elite.

Speaker 1 As far as the 9-11 thing goes, again, like...

Speaker 1 If you're going to motivate your players, it actually makes sense that the Bills seasons have been the way that they were because the hijacker, they didn't study how to take off or land. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're always bad at the start of the season, bad at the end of the season. Yeah, man.
They're good on cruise control.

Speaker 1 That's shocking. It is shocking, isn't it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 By the way, we just got a text message, I think, from me, or no, maybe from Shane saying, Jerry just asked if he should go in and leaf blow the balloon. Yes.
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 We won't count it against them, but I would like to see them react like that.

Speaker 1 If you're watching on the YouTube right now, you're going to get a treat because Jerry's going to leaf blow the balloon and see how they react. This would would be great.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Seahawks 49ers is the last afternoon game. Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp.

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 1 Bird nugget of the week. Bird nugget of the week.
Oh, I like it. For the Seahawks.

Speaker 10 That's a good tune. Where'd you get it?

Speaker 1 Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp. That's good.
I like that. I like it too.
Bird nugget of the week. Did you know that a Seahawk is not an actual bird? Oh.
It's not a bird.

Speaker 1 The Seahawks have a mascot and a logo that does not exist as an actual animal in real life. Now, some people...
Seagull on steroids?

Speaker 1 We got a bunch of osprey heads out there being like, yo, PFT, it's an osprey. Some people call an osprey a Seahawk.
In the first place, that's two words, sea and hawk.

Speaker 1 In the second place, there's other birds that are also called Seahawks. So it can be a skua.
or an osprey. There's no such thing as a Seahawk.
Now, other fun fact about the Seahawks mascot.

Speaker 1 Wait, are we on live? Did Shane put us live on the stream? Don't put us on the stream because we don't, I mean, we're doing bird nuggets of the week. We can't have the people.

Speaker 1 You got to tune in to pardon my take for that stuff. Yeah, so this is very important because you might say to yourself, hey, PFT,

Speaker 1 they actually have a live mascot. That's a hawk.
And you're right. They very much do, in fact, have a live mascot.
It's not a Seahawk.

Speaker 1 The live mascot that they use is a captive-bred 10-year-old auger hawk named Taima. Does he live by the sea? Taima, no, auger hawks live in the fucking mountains of Africa.
Oh.

Speaker 1 And it's not even a Seahawk. So there's no such thing as a Seahawk.
Bird Nugget of the Week. Chirp.
That was great Bird Nugget of the Week. That's a good song.

Speaker 1 Niners are going to win this game. I have talked myself into the Seahawks being frisky.
Okay. Can I help you? They were frisky last week.
Yeah, they were frisky last week.

Speaker 1 It felt like it was throw everything at the kitchen, you know, the kitchen sink game where it's like, we've got to win this game.

Speaker 1 The Niners officially are the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 1 You could just point to their three losses, Debo Samuel and Trent Williams Williams being out and how good they've looked every single game that they have not been out. Yep.

Speaker 1 I also think the Seahawks struggle defending the middle of the field, struggle in tackling. Christian McCaffrey's pretty good at avoiding tackles and running routes in the middle of the field.

Speaker 1 Same with Kittle, same with Debo. You know, he's good in the middle of the field.

Speaker 1 Bobby Wagner.

Speaker 1 Bobby Wagner's maybe lost a step. Well, he's definitely lost a step from his prime, but he's still not bad.

Speaker 1 I like the Seahawks to cover in this game.

Speaker 1 10.5. I think they're trapping you.
That's a lot of points. They're trapping you.
I think you're getting trapped by the Niners. Yeah, they're coming off a mini-buy from last Thursday.

Speaker 1 No, the Seahawks are. Seahawks, sorry.
Yeah, the Seahawks are coming off a mini-buy from last Thursday. Oh, here comes the Leaf Blower.

Speaker 1 They're struggling. They're getting up.
They're getting up.

Speaker 1 This is great.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 This is some great action right now. They're going to, Hank's trying to block the Leaf Blower.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 All right, they survived. Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 Jerry still got him.

Speaker 1 This is really the dumbest thing ever, but it's so funny. Hank's trying to block the leaf

Speaker 1 with his body.

Speaker 1 They're doing a good job. Yeah,

Speaker 1 this is good teamwork. You know what? Like, Hank and Max...
They seem like they've learned a lot from the 9-11 hijackers. Yes.

Speaker 1 I'd say so. I'd say so.
All right, they're fighting back. Yep.
There he goes. That's Mark Wahlberg right there.
Does he have a box cutter? No. Good.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah. So

Speaker 1 I think it's a

Speaker 1 Seahawks trap. I don't think I'm getting trapped.

Speaker 1 I think the 49ers are obviously the best team in the NFC. And

Speaker 1 when they've got their guys back, they're the best team in the NFL. I just think that 10.5 points is a lot of points.
I don't think that the Seahawks are going to win this trap.

Speaker 1 They're not going to win this heavy and a half. But they look frisky enough on the road in Dallas on Thursday night that I'm like,

Speaker 1 they should not be 10.5 point underdogs. Exactly.
Trap. They shouldn't be.
Trap.

Speaker 1 I think you're getting trapped. No.

Speaker 1 Everything you explained is the trap. I saw them on national television playing milk.
Yeah, exactly. The most recent game that's the perfect amount where you're like, they don't have to even be close.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Back for me on 10. Yeah, no, you could, yeah, that is open.
All right. Nerd nugget.

Speaker 10 Seahawks wide receiver DK Metcalf needs one reception and 88 yards to become the third player in NFL history to reach 50 catches, 900 yards, and five touchdowns in each of his first five seasons.

Speaker 10 Randy Moss, A.J. Green.

Speaker 1 He was awesome on Thursday night. I'm faster than him.
It was great to see that you are, Fax. All right, last game.
Crown jewel. Eagles and Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Eagles have been out-gained by 100 yards in the last

Speaker 1 five games, five straight games. Yeah, they've been winning some close ones.
Yeah. I also, I think this is the battle of fraud defenses.

Speaker 1 Okay. The Eagles, that's the stat with the Eagles.
They've been outgained 100 yards in the last five games.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys defense,

Speaker 1 I was looking it up. I was getting into the weeds.

Speaker 1 So they've given up 220 points.

Speaker 1 In five of those games, they gave up 40 total points. Those five games were against the Patriots, the Panthers, the Giants, twice, and the Jets.

Speaker 1 Those four teams are the four last teams in offense in the NFL. So in five games this year against those teams, they've given up eight points per game.

Speaker 1 In the other seven games, they're giving up 27 points per game. Yeah, they beat up on bad teams.
Right. And so it's like...
They crush bad teams. I love this over.

Speaker 1 I really don't know. This is kind of a...
Maybe we'll go back to the Mincy, like perfect spread. Because I kind of wanted the Cowboys, but now it's three and a half.
Good job, Vegas. Good job.

Speaker 1 Like three and a half makes you scared. You look at three and you're like, ooh, that's yummy.
And then three and a half, like, oh, I don't want that.

Speaker 1 The hook dangling out there because then you know for certain you're going to lose because of that happening. Yes.

Speaker 1 We should talk about Mike McCarthy and his health adventure he's been through this week. He had appendicitis.
He had a swollen appendix. They removed it.
He said he's going to coach. Free diet.

Speaker 1 Free diet. Yeah.
Because he just lost his appendix.

Speaker 1 Probably lost two pounds. Mike McCarthy might not have been fat.
Maybe his appendix had just been gradually bursting and growing for the last 15 years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're going to take it out and he's going to be hot. He's like Violet Bogart.
He's going to have a six-pack. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So McCarthy, I could see him also also using the appendix as a motivational tool. Like have it in a jar,

Speaker 1 smash his appendix, get his guts. I'm spilling my guts for you guys.

Speaker 1 I'm getting my guts on all these players. So I was wondering how this would play into it.
And I asked our good friend Will Compton and Kyle Long, who were here today, and they said that it's

Speaker 1 this late in the season, it actually would maybe be good because it's like a substitute teacher energy where it's like the defensive coordinator and offensive coordinator are now running the practices.

Speaker 1 It kind of makes it loose, like, oh, you think you're going to be the head coach? Oh, you're not the head coach. So, kind of like a fun vibe that they can get out of this.

Speaker 1 I would also like it if Mike McCarthy coached this game from a hospital bed. It would be great.
You freeze. That would be fun.
Yeah, you freeze it. Like, up in the suite next to Jerry.

Speaker 1 Maybe Jerry's there, like, manning his IV, telling him what plays to call. Yeah.
That would be awesome. You also,

Speaker 1 it might be a good thing if Mike McCarthy doesn't coach. If you have Dan Quinn stuff.

Speaker 1 Situationally, like, I mean, that throw that they made on third down on Thursday night to stop the clock, like, Mike McCarthy still does some really stupid shit.

Speaker 1 That's what that's what I was saying at the start of the show on Friday.

Speaker 1 Was no one's going to talk about that because they ended up winning the game, but that very easily could have cost them the game. Yeah.
That was how many he gave him like 40 seconds? It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Here's 40 seconds for free. Mike McCarthy also, I saw someone pose this, but he is in the running for like one of the best regular season coaches of all time.
I want to see what his record is.

Speaker 1 I'm looking it up right now, scrolling, scrolling. Head coaching record.
Here it is. Oh, no, 164 and 100.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

Speaker 9 That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 That's not best of all time. Regular season.

Speaker 1 Okay. Nerd nugget.

Speaker 10 Philadelphia is 3-0 on Sunday night football under Nick Siriani, which is the longest active streak of SNF wins in the NFL. The Eagles have won each of their last two games versus Dallas on SNF.

Speaker 1 Okay. So three games in a row.
Although the Cowboys,

Speaker 1 Dak has actually beaten the Eagles more. Like he has a better record against the Eagles than you would imagine.
I actually thought the way that they lost to the Eagles earlier this year was

Speaker 1 perfect because the Cowboys played good enough to beat the Eagles in that game.

Speaker 1 Dak played awesome, had a great game, and then just stepped out of bounds barely, just by a little bit, two yards shy, where it will just drive you insane. And people will be like, see, Dak sucks.

Speaker 1 He stepped out of bounds. When in reality, he played an awesome game.
And they'll all forget about that and be like, oh, well, he cost us at the last minute.

Speaker 1 That's the perfect way, in my opinion, for any Dallas Cowboys loss to occur. Remember that game, too, when we were watching it?

Speaker 1 The Cowboys were just able to get yards a lot easier than it felt like the Eagles were. Just go to CD.

Speaker 1 And they were just kind of ripping them up in the middle. Jake Ferguson has also been very, very good and has kind of changed their offense a little bit.
I'm going to look it up real quick.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys-Eagles game from earlier this year. Wow, they played a lot longer ago than I realized.

Speaker 1 Was it like four weeks ago? Three Three weeks? Yeah, it was week nine.

Speaker 10 November 5th flies by.

Speaker 1 That's a long time ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Cowboys had 406 yards to the Eagles 292. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Wait, did you do the Nernugget? Yeah, you did.

Speaker 1 Okay, that was a great preview, boys. Didn't think we were going to get into 9-11.
Sean McDermott just got a lot of stuff. Shafter just tweeted the article, too, so it's official.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, I mean, he did a press conference talking about it.

Speaker 1 so he clearly know he knew that must have sucked for sean mcdermott to be like any day they could say the 9-11 story yeah i just got i got a notification mcdermott addresses 9-11 comments bill's coach said he regretted comments that he made during a team meeting this does feel like a fake article it feels the entire thing feels fake but it's real which is crazy yeah That really is insane.

Speaker 1 Okay. What do you think Aaron Rodgers would say about that? Actually.
Maybe

Speaker 1 actually, they didn't work that hard together because it was the CIA. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is wild. Wild.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Picks. Let's do it.

Speaker 10 Five weeks to go. 10 picks remaining.
For the opening act,

Speaker 10 Jake, 16.5.

Speaker 10 PF, excuse me. Memes, 15.

Speaker 10 Max, 14.

Speaker 1 Close. So, yes, very close.

Speaker 10 For the main event, Big Cat, 17 and a half. PFT, 16.
Hank, 11.5.

Speaker 1 Okay. So Hank is

Speaker 10 4.5 points out with 10 to play.

Speaker 1 I mean, anything could happen. Anything could happen.
I'm not safe. That's what we're looking at.
Big Cat. You're not safe.
No. No, you can't expect to be safe.

Speaker 10 No, but Hank, yeah, he went 0-2 last week, and Big Cat went 2-0.

Speaker 10 You should be miserable to be able to do that. The opening act is wide open.
Any of us, it could happen too. And then pancakes.
Big Cat would you like to report your change.

Speaker 10 Big Cat, a transactional change.

Speaker 1 So McGlinchey got hurt.

Speaker 1 No, Kayla McGarry. McGarry got hurt.
So I've picked up Moses. Morgan Moses.
Morgan Moses. I'm really on top of this.

Speaker 10 So here's the standings with five weeks to go. Hank continues to dominate with 44 pancakes.

Speaker 1 Good for him. He needs a win.

Speaker 10 Max, 34. PFT and I tied with 31.
Big Cat 25. Memes 24.

Speaker 10 All right. I think that's going to be a fun video, too, because we're all going to be participating.
Yeah, I want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, except for the person who has to eat 24 pancakes. I don't know if you can.

Speaker 10 18 is really tough, too.

Speaker 1 Third place is premium. Yeah.
What's third place? 24 is going to take place.

Speaker 10 It's 0, 3, 6, 12, 18, 24.

Speaker 1 I want to get 12. 12 pancakes would be the best.

Speaker 10 Right now, PFT, me and you are tied for third and fourth. We'd probably just split it and do nine each, right? Sounds good.

Speaker 1 That'll be another stream that we'll get for everyone.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about it.

Speaker 1 We should probably, we can just have Chef Donnie make us pancakes. Yeah.
The way we can do it here. Oh, yeah.
Get a couple tall stacks. Yeah.
Dermot will show me how to attack.

Speaker 10 Chef Donnie made a French toast for the guys for the stream today. It smelled so good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can't remember. Is it just 24 pancakes straight or is it the deal?

Speaker 10 I think we're doing the hours.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the hours thing. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 So, all right, so that's not. Yeah, you could sit, eat 12 pancakes in 12 hours.
That still would suck.

Speaker 10 It just depends on the size.

Speaker 10 And then

Speaker 1 the people who

Speaker 1 have to do six and

Speaker 1 what is it, six, twelve.

Speaker 10 Zero, three, six, twelve, eighteen, twenty-four.

Speaker 1 So the people who could do the other, as soon as they finish their pancakes, they can leave. Yep.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 That's pretty good. In Hank's case, most likely, zero.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so he can hang out and just make fun of us. He needs that.
He needs a win like that. Okay, memes, will you be ready to eat pancakes if we have to do it? Oh, yeah.
This punishment rules.

Speaker 1 I don't think it does. I think you're very wrong.
I have eaten, I once tried to eat 10 pancakes just on a bet, and it was hard. Yeah, 10 pancakes is a lot.

Speaker 1 I think 12, though, you get to have two meals. You split it up into six and six, and you just hang out with the boys, eat pancakes.
I like that idea. It's technically kind of another 24-hour stream.

Speaker 1 Could be. Could be.
If you don't eat any pancakes, you have to sit in that room for 24 hours. It would be kind of funny to eat just one pancake.
Yeah, just be like, I'd rather, I'm on a diet.

Speaker 1 I'd rather just hang out.

Speaker 10 Interact at the chat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 10 Also, they submitted their picks since they're not on the show right now.

Speaker 1 They also only gave one pick each.

Speaker 10 So she was giving them

Speaker 10 their picks.

Speaker 1 Oh, so they're just doing like a, is this a silent

Speaker 1 protest? Well, we can go, we can... talk to them, right? Get their picks right now.

Speaker 1 All right, so let's do, let's do their, they both get a pick, and then we'll do all all of our picks, and then they can just pick something random.

Speaker 10 Okay, so Hank has the Chiefs minus one and a half against the Bills.

Speaker 1 He probably knew about the 9-11 thing. He did.

Speaker 10 And then Max has his Eagles plus three and a half against the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Okay, so who's up first? I believe PFT.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Browns.

Speaker 1 Minus three at home.

Speaker 10 Like it. Against the Drags? Yep.

Speaker 1 Like it. Like it.
Okay.

Speaker 10 I'm going to take

Speaker 10 the Niners minus 10.5 against the Seahawks. I think they really separate themselves from the rest of the day.

Speaker 1 They're getting trapped, Jake. Okay.
We'll see. Okay.

Speaker 1 Memes?

Speaker 1 I think Max would be up here. No, well, we're just going to go to them at the end for their two picks.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Because they were asked to give two picks. They just didn't.
They also didn't have their phones.

Speaker 1 All right, well, we'll let them just pick Randy. Eagles, Cowboys over, 51.5.

Speaker 1 I wanted that. I wanted that bad.
All right, so I got two. I'll do Bears plus three and a half.
And I'll do Bucs, Falcons over 40.5. That was the game member.

Speaker 1 It was like 19, 17, but there was seven turnovers in the red zone the first time. I think they had like 700 yards of offense or something crazy like that.

Speaker 1 Okay, memes, going back around to you.

Speaker 1 Colts plus one. Okay.

Speaker 10 Against. I see one and a half.

Speaker 1 Ooh. I see one.

Speaker 1 And I'll take one and a half. I'll take one and a half.
Give me one and a half. I'll take one and a half.
Means to stayed up.

Speaker 10 He deserves that half a point.

Speaker 10 I'm going to take

Speaker 10 Texans Jets under 33.5.

Speaker 1 Okay, you didn't have to say it like that.

Speaker 1 Really hit the under hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah. PFT.
Zach Wills.

Speaker 1 I am going to take

Speaker 1 down between two for me right now.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take

Speaker 1 the over

Speaker 1 in the Rams Ravens. 39.5.
I like it. Okay, you can wire us in Shane.
We'll ask them for their last two picks.

Speaker 1 Are all their picks there?

Speaker 10 Yeah, no one took any of their picks.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have their first two.

Speaker 10 Yeah, so I'll just say them.

Speaker 10 Memes, excuse me, Max took Indianapolis, Cincinnati over 43.5, and Hank has...

Speaker 1 Oh, they did do picks. They did do two picks.
Yeah, but like, if you wanted to. Oh, okay.
I missed our show. Shane, don't put us in.
We don't need to talk to you.

Speaker 10 They didn't send a backup.

Speaker 1 Got it. Got it.

Speaker 10 None of us took them.

Speaker 1 They sent one pick. So if you had a meme.
You got it. Got it.

Speaker 10 Got it. Yeah.
So Max took Colt Bengals over 43.5 and Hank has Broncos Chargers under 43.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that worked out perfect. Yeah, no overlaps.
I was confused. All right, we got two interviews.
We're not doing Fantasy Fuck Boys this week because we don't have Hank. We'll be back next week.

Speaker 1 We have two great interviews. We're going going to start with Gronk, our good friend Gronk, and then Bart Scott, who

Speaker 1 I like Bart Scott. He gets fired up.
I want to see him and Shady McCoy do a show.

Speaker 1 He takes, takes, takes. He gets fired up.
We got him a little fired up. He doesn't understand the butt fumble, though.
Yeah, the butt fumble. He still doesn't got it.

Speaker 1 We couldn't have explained it better. Yeah.
He still doesn't got it.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Rob Gronkowski.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our good friends, multiple-time recurring guest. It is future Hall of Famer Rob Gronkowski, and he's with us because he's hosting a bowl game, the L.A.

Speaker 1 Bowl, December 16th, Boise State, UCLA.

Speaker 1 Gronk, great to see you. First question, what the hell does it mean to host a bowl game? What does this entail?

Speaker 13 Yes, what's up, guys? Great to be back on the show. I love you guys.
Love your show. And on top of of that, man, it's a special moment for me.

Speaker 13 When I got the, you know, the L.A. Bowl brought to me, the interest of me hosting it.

Speaker 13 It definitely triggered something because my last game at the University of Arizona that I played in, it was actually in this bowl game

Speaker 13 when it was in Las Vegas. It was a conference matchup, the same conference matchup in Las Vegas.
It was the first bowl game the University of Arizona went to in 10 years.

Speaker 13 And we beat BYU, who was ranked number 17th in the country at the time. And Willie Tutama, our quarterback, who's going to be at the bowl game, actually, the L.A.
Bowl, he lives in San Diego now.

Speaker 13 So he's driving up. He threw for over 300 yards.
My brother Chris, who was a fullback, had a touchdown up the middle.

Speaker 13 I didn't have a touchdown, which was rare for me in college, but that's all right because we beat BYU. And now it's a full circle moment because this game is now in L.A.

Speaker 13 It's the last game I played in at the University of Arizona. Now I'll be hosting the bowl game.
that I last played in. So that's pretty special, man.
It's a special moment.

Speaker 13 And that's what really got me to host this ball game for sure. I love it.

Speaker 1 That is very cool. I can only imagine like thinking back to all the touchdowns you did scored, those teammates you had.
Now you're hosting the event.

Speaker 1 As far as hosting the event goes, though, what does that entail? What does hosting a bowl game mean?

Speaker 1 Are you just getting the party started?

Speaker 13 Yes, that's exactly what it means. I'm going to get the party started.
Also, you got to go on a little promotion tour.

Speaker 13 So I'm here doing the little promotion tour, going on a couple of shows, promoting the bowl game to get people there. We got Boise State versus UCLA, which is going to be a great game.

Speaker 13 But then on top of it, when it really matters is, you know, bringing the attitude to the game, bringing the atmosphere of

Speaker 13 energetic, you know, type of atmosphere to the game as well. And obviously, I got to perform.
I can't just host a game and show up and wave, kiss babies. I got to perform.

Speaker 13 And this is where I got to talk to you, big cat, because I know. that you've done some special things.
I will be singing the national anthem at this bowl game as well.

Speaker 13 And I have watched you about four or five times in my life sing the national anthem at the rowdy fights that you guys held also other couple events so can you please give me a tip big cat on what i need to know when i when i freaking sing this national anthem and light up the whole arena okay so can you sing no i cannot sing okay

Speaker 13 I was on the mass singer and I beat Lil Wayne in the first round and Shaka Khan in the second round. And I think it was because of my dance moves.
But then after that,

Speaker 13 I was voted off. But they're also helping me out because I did sing for them.
I did sing for the committee.

Speaker 13 Julian Adelman was there and told me he needs 10 more shots for me to continue singing because it was so bad. But they got the new Durations Veterans Choir to sing with me.

Speaker 1 So it's kind of like they're helping me out.

Speaker 13 They don't want me to fail. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've got a good bass around me.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 1 So I guess my only tip would be you got to have someone hold up the words just in case you freeze up because I've screwed up the words before and that's the worst feeling in the world.

Speaker 1 That people take the national anthem very seriously. So maybe someone just you know maybe have gordy just standing behind the camera with a big cue card ready to go you know

Speaker 13 that is a good point i was already thinking about that and uh sometimes they put the national anthem like in the nfl games i saw it they put it up on the jumbotron yeah just so everyone can sing along but really it's for the person that's singing the national anthem so i'm going to have them do that thank you

Speaker 1 and it's like you obviously everyone knows the national anthem but it's like little stuff like like bombs bursting in air not through air and like that stuff Like I had the first one I ever did was the Windy Cities Thunderbolts when Dave and I went out and tried out for the team.

Speaker 1 And I think I said through air instead of in air. And I had like a World War II Navy vet come up to me after.
He's like, you messed up the anthem. And I was like, oh, fuck.
Never again.

Speaker 1 Never again will I mess up one word. You're never going to get USAA if you screw that up.
Yeah. Yeah.
And you're a vet.

Speaker 13 You know, I got to get USAA, and that's very true.

Speaker 1 I 100%.

Speaker 13 I've been trying to get, I even jumped out of the plane at the Air Force base on Fox freaking three weeks ago. And then one of the cadets was there.
He's like, you deserve USAA.

Speaker 8 I was like, I know I do.

Speaker 13 And then he's like, but you haven't served yet. He goes, how about you marry my sister? You'll get USAA that.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh, man,

Speaker 1 hey, whatever it takes, I need to get it.

Speaker 13 Maybe singing the national anthem will get me.

Speaker 1 That might do it. Or you could just like go overseas and just fight in the war on your own.
Just be like, hey, Gronk's here. I'm just trying to get that good insurance.

Speaker 13 Yo, what if I did serve for our country and I went over, I was in Afghanistan, I was freaking in the army tank, shooting freaking rockets out of it, all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 That would be pretty badass. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you might be too tall for a tank, though. Yeah, it's close quarters in there.
Julian Edelman would fit perfectly in it. Yeah, little tiny guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 They would specialize. They would get in the factory right now and do a specialized tank for myself.
So I'd say that the Gronk tank.

Speaker 1 The Gronk tank. The Gronk tank would rock.

Speaker 1 That would be sick. So we're not going to ask you if you're retired because I know that you are retired.
But I will ask you another football-related question about your time in the league.

Speaker 1 Specifically, Specifically, spending so much time around Bill Belichick, there's been a lot of smoke out there about Belichick maybe taking a different coaching job next year.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are having the conversation about the Washington Commanders for Bill Belichick. Would you be surprised to see him go to a different team?

Speaker 13 I would be surprised for him to go to a different team. I mean,

Speaker 13 it would just be really weird, first off. It would just be weird just seeing him on another team.
I mean, he's been with New England for so long.

Speaker 13 I kind of feel like, yeah, this season's really rough, but he is still one of the greatest coaches of all time there's no doubt about that i mean i played for him i learned from him he helped develop me to be the player that i was there's no doubt about that and he if he's not one of the greatest coaches of all time he is the greatest coach of all time he knows his football inside and out i saw firsthand every single day there's no doubt about that but uh just to see him on another team would be really weird i believe he's really grandfather claused in with the newing patriots i mean he would have to have like another year like this year next year for them to finally be like all right it's time let's move on but i'm i truly believe that he will be here next year but if he does go to another team like the washington commanders i mean it doesn't really you know right rival with the new england patriots kind of like when we went to the tampa bay buccaneers it's not like we went to the miami dolphins or the buffalo bills so it would have to be a team like that where it doesn't have any beef with the patriots so the commanders i would say would be a team he would go to but i just don't see that happening after this year i think he'll definitely have another year to uh redeem himself yeah So you are retired, but when was the last time you got a phone call?

Speaker 1 And it could be from Tom Brady. I would assume when Tom Brady thinks like people maybe kick the tires on him, he's like, well, I got to make sure that Gronk's also coming too.

Speaker 13 Yes. Well, no, I haven't got a call from Tom.
The last time I talked to him, though, was actually yesterday.

Speaker 13 He sent me a clip of our playoff touchdowns and he wrote to me, bro, no one done it like us.

Speaker 1 And I remember calling me.

Speaker 13 I was like, bro, those are some badass clips. It actually hit me up.
And I haven't really realized like we were freaking badass. We were, if not the best duo to do it in the game, my man.

Speaker 13 I mean, watching the highlights now, ain't no one doing like what we did back in the day. There's no doubt about it.
We played physical football. We played smart football like no one else does.

Speaker 13 We grinded our way out of situations whenever we needed to. But on top of that, I got a call from like two teams this year in the offseason, but you know,

Speaker 13 I just wasn't interested. I mean, they were great teams.
It would have been a great situation, but it just wasn't ready to go.

Speaker 1 So the Bills and who else?

Speaker 13 No, it wasn't the Bills.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 13 No, no. Well, first off, I mean, it's kind of out there.
It was the Giants because of Brian Dable. He was my position coach for three years here.
And I loved having him as my position coach, man.

Speaker 13 He was just a great guy. Great attitude.
Brought the juice to the table every single time. But I mean, he knew it was kind of like a home run.
We talk every once in a while.

Speaker 13 And he's like, yo, come on, come out. Come with us.
You and Darren Waller. You guys would be a great duel.
And I was like, I know we would be, but bro, I'm good, I'm all done.

Speaker 13 I got 11 years in the league, freaking four Super Bowls, six times went to the Super Bowl. A lot of crazy action off the field as well, up in the New England area.
So, did it all, man?

Speaker 13 Very satisfied with my career.

Speaker 1 And then, what was the other team?

Speaker 13 Oh, the other team.

Speaker 13 Oh, man, I don't even want to say it.

Speaker 8 No, you got to say it.

Speaker 1 Come on, we got what we can guess.

Speaker 1 NFC or AFC. NFC or AFC.

Speaker 1 If you hit it,

Speaker 1 what's that? NFC or AFC.

Speaker 13 Uh

Speaker 1 AFC. All right, we get three guesses.
I got one. Um, the Raiders.

Speaker 1 All right, you hit it right on the show.

Speaker 1 That wasn't too hard. That was actually really easy.
Josh, come on. I mean, that's an easy one.

Speaker 13 You got McDaniels over there when he was there.

Speaker 13 I know the offense. So,

Speaker 13 I mean, that was an easy guess, my man. You got it right on.

Speaker 1 Do you think you would have been able to play in Las Vegas?

Speaker 13 Yeah, I would have been able to play. I mean, not at the beginning of my career, but I would have been able to play in Las Vegas now.

Speaker 13 I can block that, you know, all that mayhem stuff out now.

Speaker 1 So, so you are retired. Have you had the moment yet? Because it's like, you know, there's not many guys that retire and it's just a guarantee first ballot Hall of Famer.
Have you had that thought?

Speaker 1 Like, hey, three years from now or whatever it might be, three, four years, I can't remember what the exact date is. Like, you're going to get the knock on the door.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a pretty fucking crazy moment.

Speaker 13 It's going to be a really crazy moment, man.

Speaker 13 it still really hasn't hit me and i think it's still really weird to me because i'm so young and if i never came back out of retirement went to the bucks and i just stayed retired it would actually be this year that if i went first ballot i would actually be going in the hall of fame right now and i'm just 34 years old and that would have been like super super weird so like I think like, because that's like a moment that you want to cherish when you're older.

Speaker 13 So like it still really hasn't hit me because I'm like just 34. There's guys still playing in the league that are that are my age right now, currently as well.

Speaker 13 So maybe it'll hit me in like a year or two. I mean, I just went into the Hall of Fame at the University of Arizona.

Speaker 13 They just put me in the sports Hall of Fame there a couple months ago, last month, actually. So that was a good start, man.
That was a little, you know, kick to get that feeling of what it's like.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you have to have a kid. You got to have a kid before you go in the Hall of Fame.
Then you can hold it. It does sound like that, man.

Speaker 13 First off, I've got my dog who's just chilling right next to me. He's kind of like my first kid.
He's getting me ready for a real kid.

Speaker 13 But man, I would love to have a little Gronk running around, just going crazy. My brother is, oh, I am actually an uncle and what is it? Uncle and let's see one way you have a nephew.

Speaker 1 I'm an uncle. You're an aunt? I'm an uncle.
Oh, nine.

Speaker 13 So I'm at, no, I'm not an aunt.

Speaker 1 I was

Speaker 1 an aunt, but I'm an aunt.

Speaker 1 Wait, you have nine nephews. Nine nephews.

Speaker 13 Nine nephews. No, seven nephews, two nieces, or three nieces.

Speaker 1 There's going to be so many Gronks in the world. Oh my God, that's a scary thing.

Speaker 13 Bro, let me tell you, they're legends. They're athletic.
They're going to be the the next generation of Gronk athletes as well.

Speaker 13 I'm super excited to see them. It gets me juiced every time I watch them.
And one day, I won't be having a little Gronk running around.

Speaker 1 Did you ever have Baby Gronk running around? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
What are you doing? Livvy Donne. Yeah.
What went through your head when Baby Gronk was all over the news for like that week?

Speaker 1 You remember that week? Yeah.

Speaker 13 That was just crazy, man. And I actually followed Baby Gronk when I was doing a little autograph signing.
The autograph guy was like, yo, you see this baby Gronk guy? And I'm like, no, I haven't.

Speaker 13 He's like, you should follow him. It's kind of funny.
And this was like way before he blew up. And it was like kind of funny stuff.
And I was like, oh, that's cool.

Speaker 13 But then he just took it to a whole freaking not level, bro. Like whatever, a couple months ago.
And I like, it kind of blew my mind. I was like, I mean, I'm not kind of here to support that.

Speaker 13 I think it's just too young of an age to just see what they're doing. I mean, some of the material was freaking pretty funny.
Like, did you see when they posted his mom, if that was really his mom?

Speaker 13 Like, it was the most outrageous picture.

Speaker 1 I lost my mind.

Speaker 13 Like, the cleavage was just sticking out. Like, it was just so out of control.
And I wasn't even sure if it was his mom or not.

Speaker 13 But I would say, just maybe they took it to a little bit too far of a level.

Speaker 13 And it's kind of like setting your kid up for failure, I would say, a little bit, because, like, you don't know, they're so young. He's like 10 or 12 years old.

Speaker 1 So, let kids be kids. The dad, like, feeding them all the lines and stuff.
That was a little uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 We're baby diggs guys anyway. I don't know if you've seen baby diggs.

Speaker 13 Yeah, I did. I did.

Speaker 1 That was pretty cool, too. Yeah, baby Diggs is a man.
Baby Diggs rocks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, all right. So, Gronk, you're crushing in media now.

Speaker 1 You're everywhere. We all kind of figured you would be because of your personality.

Speaker 1 How has it been, though, like transitioning to media, being you have to watch games like we watch games? Not so easy, right?

Speaker 1 Like, we've always said that watching all the games might be harder than playing in the game.

Speaker 13 100% agree with that. Watching all the games is harder than playing in the game because you got to know about every player.
You got to know about every team.

Speaker 13 And that's why I'll never be a commentator as well. You got to be way too into it.
I'm way too busy, man. And I love the game of football, but I don't see myself, you know, commentating on games.

Speaker 13 That's why I like the job that I have being an analyst. And I'm also part-time.
I just signed a new deal with Fox where I just do about 10 to 12 of them a year.

Speaker 13 So I don't have to fly out to LA every single time. And I got all the playoff games as well.
But it is a job, man.

Speaker 13 I'm actually impressed with what you guys do, how you guys always be tweeting out info knowing what's going on knowing the players knowing the stats it's impressive man you got to be fully into it to actually understand what's going on truly and uh it is work man and uh that's why i'm just an analyst though because you can pick it up you can kind of like kind of watch the game and then you know throw your thoughts out there as well but i feel like it's the perfect job for me that i have right now that i'll stick to yeah one underrated part about what we do and how hard our job is is not only do we have to watch every game of football we also have to watch every pregame show and every halftime show and every post-game show.

Speaker 1 And we have to take what you guys say, then we have to analyze that too. So it's like two jobs.
We're working like more than full-time doing a podcast. It's hard.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 And then on top of it, you have to be funny as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You try that.
Ideally, yeah. Ideally.
Yeah, that part's hit or miss. Or you can be so bad sometimes that you become good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the other thing about being an analyst is if you're like the loudest, wrongest person, then you're actually good again because people will just argue with you all the time.

Speaker 13 I would say that's where I started when I first started with the Fox team. I was so bad.
I was talking about Julian scoring touchdowns and getting that nut in the end zone because he's a squirrel.

Speaker 8 And like that hit off.

Speaker 13 It was so bad, but it was so good, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They didn't want to speak to you after that.
We're like, hey, Rob, we like what you're doing.

Speaker 1 You're pushing the edge a little bit, but maybe if you could not talk about a player coming on the air, that would be great.

Speaker 13 No, they loved it, my man. No one talked to me about it.
And I feel like they want more of that type of stuff. I mean, it was clean.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was clean, man. Yeah, yeah, uh, you brought up Jules.
Uh, we haven't seen him in a while. He's been ducking us.
Hopefully, we're gonna see him soon. Is he getting a little chubby?

Speaker 1 Is he getting a little fat?

Speaker 13 Jules? Oh my gosh, I would love to see Jules chubby. I would just rip on him every single day.

Speaker 1 Like, man, what happened to you?

Speaker 13 Because every day in the locker room, he used to walk by with his shirt off. I'd be like, bro, you boxer rip.
Because Julian is ripped. He got the lungs coming out, the bicep showing.

Speaker 13 He likes boxer rip where everything's just popping. So if he gets a little chubby, I'll be like, bro, you kind of, you're not boxer rip no more you sumo wrestler rip

Speaker 1 yes dude nobody i i haven't seen him with his shirt off in a while he used to he used to just post all shirtless pictures on instagram we we gave him a lot of his uh the famous father's day post where it was just like him with his shirt off catching footballs and his dad like kind of like putting his hand in front of him and that was the father's day post it was literally like look at how ripped i am i haven't seen him with his shirt off in a while i actually i actually did see him with his shirt off that week well because he's actually with fox as as well.

Speaker 13 He does the pregame show before ours and sometimes comes on ours. I sometimes come on his.
And I saw him change again. And he actually is still really ripped, man.

Speaker 1 But he goes, I don't really have it.

Speaker 13 I haven't worked out in a while. And I was like, bro, well, you super rip for working out for a while.
So

Speaker 13 he's going to get back into it. But

Speaker 13 I'm actually for it for him to get chunky. That'd be pretty funny.

Speaker 8 He'd be very awesome.

Speaker 1 He would look so fat with the beard, too. He would just go outside.
He'd look like Jersey Jerry. Yeah.
It'd be awesome. Great.
It'd be great.

Speaker 1 Gronk, so I'm curious to know. You've been out of the league for a little bit.

Speaker 1 You were a guy that loved physical contact. You liked running over people, throwing people out of the club.
Do you miss that aspect of it?

Speaker 1 Like, do you have an outlet for you to physically dominate another person in your daily life?

Speaker 13 Yeah, I love doing activities, my man. I love competing still, obviously, like Cornhole.
I mean, I get intense at Cornhole, play some pickleball.

Speaker 13 I shoot the basketball around, three-point games and all that. But I would say that aggression came from when I was a kid, man.
I was three older brothers, one younger.

Speaker 13 We have about 20 other kids on our street, they were all older than myself, and I was always competing with them, playing tackle football at seven years old versus 10-year-olds, taking them out still.

Speaker 13 Got tons of beatings when I was a kid, Charlie horses every single day. So, I was kind of a guy that just feeding for the pain, feeding for the hitting.

Speaker 13 And I feel like I was numb to the pain as well because of my childhood. That's why I just loved the aggression of the game, and that's why I could just hit someone, and it was like nothing.

Speaker 13 I could just keep on going, my man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you, but you don't have any of that right now. Like, you don't do mixed martial arts, you don't wrestle.

Speaker 13 No, not nothing really like that, man. I mean,

Speaker 13 I think it's finally out of me. It took about 30 plus years to get out of me, but I still grind, still get that lift in, still run a little bit.

Speaker 13 But that like true aggression of trying to hit someone, I'm just saving it if someone tries to cheap shot me. So I'm ready just to knock them right out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's pent up.
We got to get you to our new office in Chicago because it's like, it's a Gronk, like, you know, toy land for you. We got a basketball office.

Speaker 13 are you guys still in New York?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we still have an office in New York, but we have one in Chicago too. We have like a full basketball court like tons of games and shit.
Y'all, you would love it.

Speaker 1 You just we just get you wrestling.

Speaker 13 There we go. I come there.
I play some basketball, shoot three-pointers and throw down some serious dunks.

Speaker 1 Oh, you can dunk?

Speaker 13 Oh, I can dunk like a madman right now, bro.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like that. I like that.
Hey, what, what, when you close your eyes and you think about like one touchdown or one game, what game is that?

Speaker 13 The game, I would say, is the first Super Bowl Bowl that we won because it put me in the Super Bowl club, you know, of winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 13 Also, the game was legendary versus Seattle, obviously, with the Malcolm Butler interception. And just overall, the game was just

Speaker 13 crazy, the up and downs. And then the catch, I would say, would be the one-handed catch, two of them versus the Broncos.
When I just put my hand up, Tom threw it behind me. I brought it down to two.

Speaker 13 And then also the one-hander versus Buffalo Bills, my hometown team.

Speaker 13 So it was just special to do it against them. And it was at Gillette Stadium.
I just put my hand out like that on the one. Tom threw it back there.
I just brought it right in for a touchdown.

Speaker 13 So the one-handers always stick out.

Speaker 1 Would you say,

Speaker 1 I'm going to look up the stats right now because I can't think about it offhand, but I feel like just like remembering games, I feel like your best game was in a loss.

Speaker 1 That AFC championship game against the Broncos was like the best game you ever played because you were just everything.

Speaker 13 Yeah, I would definitely say it was one of my best games. What was crazy is I think I got food poisoning from the night before.
I showed up to the game and I was feeling like complete poo, man.

Speaker 13 I wanted to throw up everywhere, but I just got my wheels turning, my engine going when we started. And I remember it was fourth and 10 in the huddle.
I'm pretty sure Tom got a screen pass called in.

Speaker 13 And it was fourth and 10 on our own 30-yard line. And it was like, what, 45 seconds left in the game? And I was feeling the game, though, by then.
I've already had a good game.

Speaker 13 And Tom looks at me and I'm like, bro, what's a screen pass? Like, throw it, like, let's call something where I can make a play. And he gets, and he calls us us all goes.

Speaker 13 And I run right by double coverage. And one of the guys was Chris Harris, all pro DB.
So these guys are running like four or threes.

Speaker 13 I turned up the notch a little bit at 260 pounds and ran right by the little guy. He threw a bottle about 40 yards in the air.

Speaker 13 I brought it down on fourth and 10 to save the season for the Patriots at that moment. So whenever it came to clutch plays, man, that's what I live for, man.
I live for clutch moments.

Speaker 1 um like that and then down there too fourth and goal on the goal line tom threw it in double coverage again jumped over the guy put a touchdown and unfortunately i was open on the two-point conversion the tie to game but we won't talk about that yeah yeah that was eight i just looked up eight for 144 and a touchdown that was the game that dave uh didn't account for the air that was his biggest excuse after he's like i didn't account for the air because he booked his he booked uh uh airbnb in san francisco for the entire week before you guys even got to the afc championship game and then he was like fuck i have to pay for this whole super bowl house and I didn't account for the air.

Speaker 13 Is that why we lost? It might have.

Speaker 1 He didn't account for the air. Well, on that note, how much credit do you give Dave Portnoy for the Patriots' success throughout the years?

Speaker 1 I think he would probably give him, he puts himself up there. Well, I guess Robert

Speaker 1 said, yeah, Hank. So it was like Belichick Brady Portnoy.
That's what Kraft said. So between Portnoy and Hank, how much credit do you think they deserve for the Patriots dynasty?

Speaker 13 I would say Dave deserves a lot of credit, no doubt about it. I mean, the guy kind of put the Patriots on the map in some great ways.

Speaker 13 I mean, he grew up, like I always said, Port and Oi started like at the same time as I. We were kind of like rookies together, and we both grew with the Barstool brand and my brand at the same time.

Speaker 13 We were both blossoming. I was a big fan of Barstool.
Barstool was a big fan of me.

Speaker 13 You guys were writing the craziest articles about me throughout the beginning of my career, and we were loving every moment.

Speaker 13 We would read them in the locker room and stuff, and we'd be laughing our ass off doing it as well. So, Portnoy, you know, definitely a huge Patriots fan.

Speaker 13 Definitely helped put the Patriots just on the map even more than the Patriots were on the map. So I got to give some serious credit to him, man.

Speaker 13 I would say, I mean, Mr. Kraft is right.
You know, he's number three in line.

Speaker 1 How can you argue with him? Yeah, well, with Hank, you remember Hank got arrested for Tom Brady going through the Flakegate. Hank locked himself in the lobby of the NFL league office.

Speaker 1 What was your reaction when you saw the barstool guys like chaining themselves in an act of civil disobedience, going to jail for your quarterback?

Speaker 13 You know, that's why I loved loved you guys even more at that moment when i saw hank do that i mean i knew he was all in as a patriot fan and that's a true patriot fan that he's willing to go to jail to represent the patriots and to represent tom brady so i love you guys i love you hank for doing that and also gave us entertainment as well because it's a grind man you know it's a grind with the media as well sometimes always you know on top of us and then to see something like that in the media with you guys to see hank doing that it's kind of a relief and it was funny man we love hank for it i don't know if the story ever got told i think it probably did in one of the documentaries but gronk was uh he actually there's people out there who went to when we did the blackout parties you you don't realize it but gronk was there with the with the um mascot hat on dancing on the stage so you saw

Speaker 13 i was at a couple blackout parties uh about two of them all my friends always went to them before as well i went to one in tampa i put the mask on and i'd be dancing on the stage like a maniac i remember we have a bottle of like vodka too on the side that we'd be pounding underneath the mask as well.

Speaker 13 So we're feeling definitely good under that mask and just going absolutely ham. I mean, those parties definitely fit me when I was, what, 23 years old on the Patriots?

Speaker 13 I mean, those were the best times for sure, man. No doubt about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Very good. I was going to say, looking around the league right now, who's the actual baby Gronk in the league?

Speaker 1 We like to always anoint the next big tight end like, oh, this guy's next, Rob Gronkowski. But like, from your opinion, who's the guy that plays the game most similarly to you?

Speaker 1 Because there can't be another Gronk. But if there's a guy that's next in line in that vein, who would it be?

Speaker 13 I'm going to go with the guy from Detroit right now. He's a rookie, Sam La Porta.
I mean, he brings it to the table. I mean, he's having a great rookie year.

Speaker 13 I mean, to have a rookie year like that in the tight end position, a lot of tight ends don't have good rookie years because it's a tough position to play and to understand.

Speaker 13 You've got to block and catch as well. But Sam Laporta is bringing it to the table.
He's fast. He's got great hands on the run.
He breaks tackles as well.

Speaker 13 He can line up out wide, do the slants, all that good stuff. And he's willing to block as well.

Speaker 13 I won't say he brings it to the table like I do in the block game, but I would say he brings, he's the most similar guy that's up and coming that kind of represents my game as well.

Speaker 1 That is something like you, you, I mean, you were such a tremendous blocker.

Speaker 1 And I think that, you know, there's a lot of tight ends now that are more pass catchers, but like a kittle is like he blocks his ass off. Like watching Greg, you know, I just called him Greg Kittle

Speaker 1 because we make a joke about that. But like those guys who could do everything,

Speaker 1 it really is like they're, they're the best athletes on the on the field, yeah, definitely, man.

Speaker 13 And I took pride in my blocking, that's for sure. I mean, I always was focusing on the blocking every single practice, especially my second year in the league.

Speaker 13 That's when I really, really learned how to block, and also actually my first year as a rookie because that's what got me on the field.

Speaker 13 Because I was so so in the past game at the moment, I actually couldn't remember the plays in the past game, so that's why I really didn't have that much targets my rookie year until halfway through the year.

Speaker 13 Finally, I'll click, but they love my blocking and willing to block.

Speaker 13 And also, I knew it'll garner much respect from all the other players willing to you know sacrifice and get dirty in the trenches and that's what i did man i loved it and i go back now and i watch some of these highlights so like when stephen ridley beat or whatever ran against um kevin hart and tore his uh when kevin hart tore his oblique or whatever in his stomach so then the nfl posted that on their on their instagram and then they posted some highlights of stephen ridley running the ball and then i saw some of my blocks just from stephen ridley running the ball some random plays And like there was three plays in a row that they showed.

Speaker 13 And each time I took my DN and I just tossed them back like five yards and right to the ground. And I was like, holy shit, baby.
Like no way.

Speaker 1 That's how I was blocking.

Speaker 13 I mean, I was a fucking dog, bro. And I loved it.
And I'm sure that's why. A lot of my teammates respected me because I love grinding like that.
I love having the big hits.

Speaker 13 It was just as good as scoring a touchdown. Yeah.
Awesome.

Speaker 1 I also love the fact that Tom Brady texts you with a highlight reel and just like, hey, remember how awesome we were? Yeah. That's pretty cool.
That rule. Because

Speaker 1 fans do that to each other. Like, I could see a Patriots fan just like texting Hank on a random day, like, remember how awesome Brady and Gronk were?

Speaker 1 But you're actually looking at that and you're like, yeah, we were pretty good.

Speaker 13 I was like, bro, we were legit. And then I was like, we were the best to do it.
No doubt about it. The best duel to do it.
There's no doubt. I was like, I'm mocking football now.

Speaker 1 Ain't no one did it like we did, baby. What do you think is your funniest play that you've ever had? Because there are two that come to mind.

Speaker 1 There's one where you just laughed in the guy's face and did the Gronk spike, where you did the big ha ha ha ha ha spike.

Speaker 1 And then there was one against Ryan Kerrigan where he tried to tackle you and he probably weighs like 285 pounds and he just grabbed the back of your shirt and kind of tried to sit down and you just ran him into the end zone like he was a sled behind you.

Speaker 1 But you've got a lot of very funny plays. So in your opinion, what's the funniest?

Speaker 13 All right, bro. Those are two good ones right there.
And I got two for you. One of them was versus the Steelers.
I caught a first down pass up the scene.

Speaker 8 I was laying on the ground.

Speaker 13 And I just decided to put my hand back as a first down marker laying on the ground. Like it made me laugh when I saw it in the film room.

Speaker 13 And then another play was versus the Baltimore Ravens in the playoffs. I caught another scene pass, and the safety came and grabbed me.

Speaker 13 And it's, and the way he grabbed me, it pulled down my pants, and my ass cheeks were hanging out. And his face was right against my ass cheeks.

Speaker 1 My actual ass was showing in the game.

Speaker 13 And there's a picture of it on the internet. If you just type it in the Google, like grind Baltimore Ravens ass guy, or whatever it is,

Speaker 13 his face is right against it, man. And it's, it's great.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 It's so good.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 so good

Speaker 1 he literally is right in your ass that's so funny

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Speaker 1 All right. So L.A.
Bowl, December 16th, Boise State, UCLA. Are you going to, I kind of want to see you do the Gatorade bath on the winning coach.

Speaker 1 Can you do that for us?

Speaker 13 I didn't even know that was a possibility. So I'm down to do that.

Speaker 13 I mean, if the team is willing to let me do that, if the players are willing to let me do that, then I'm down to get in on that action. No doubt about it.

Speaker 1 All right. Maybe get Chip Kelly wet.
That's a good plan. Yeah.
Yeah. Are you friends with Chip?

Speaker 13 I never really met Chip before, man. I faced him, I faced offers him a couple times, but he said some great comments about me because I faced him when he was at the University of Oregon.

Speaker 13 He was the offensive coordinator there. And I went off that game when we played him my sophomore year for like 150 yards, touchdown, and like 15-14 catches or so.
So he remembers it to this day.

Speaker 13 He's had nothing but great things to say about myself. And I have nothing but great things to say about him.
He's had such a great successful year as well, but it'll be my first time meeting him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a good dude. He's a good dude.
Also, our

Speaker 1 booker, who is a big part of our team, Kelly, she's actually on the Zoom right now. She just texted us and said, ask him when he's going to propose.

Speaker 1 I would never ask you that, but she wanted me to ask you that.

Speaker 13 All right. I like the way you did it, big.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's literally on the Zoom. It wasn't my question.

Speaker 13 Yes, Camille's lovely. I love Camille, and it's definitely got to be a possibility very soon.
I love it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you got to get the kid before the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 13 Yes, I got to get that kid.

Speaker 1 I can't wait till you're going to be the best dad ever. Oh my God.
I'm going to love it, man.

Speaker 13 I am going to be the best dad ever.

Speaker 1 I love that. That's a fact.
Have you decided who you want to induct you into the Hall of Fame? Who gives the speech?

Speaker 1 Dante Didon.

Speaker 1 Dante Dadon.

Speaker 8 He can DJ, but

Speaker 13 he's not going to induct me with the speech. I'm not sure yet.
I haven't thought about that yet, man. That's going to be a tough one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
It's going to be, it's going to be a great moment. Well, Gronk, we're always a fan.

Speaker 1 Have fun with the the L.A. Bowl.
I can't wait to watch you sing the national anthem. You're the best, and we got to get you here to Chicago and get you running around and dunking on us.

Speaker 13 All right. Next time I'm there, I'm going to come stop in, man.
All right.

Speaker 1 Love it. Thanks so much, Gronk.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, 11-year pro in the NFL. You can also hear him on ESPN radio and get up every single day.
He's all over the place. It is Bart Scott.

Speaker 1 Bart, first of all, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 We're fans of you.

Speaker 1 You have some takes that we love to listen to.

Speaker 1 So let's start there with just the NFL right now. It's week 13.

Speaker 1 Do you have a take you've been sitting on that we can maybe we can talk about a team that you think stinks or a player that you think is is having a bad year? Let's Let's get the people going.

Speaker 8 I don't know if particularly I have a hot take. It's like day by day, right? You know, so

Speaker 8 just the NFL is what it is. I think that we thought that the AFC was going to be the powerhouse, but it looks like the NFC is going to be the one that has the most compelling competition.

Speaker 8 You look at the Philadelphia Eagles and their lack of being able to stop the run, being dominated by the 49ers.

Speaker 8 Surprising that Shaq Griffin, Shaq Leonard decided to go over to their side instead of picking Dallas after watching both teams play.

Speaker 8 You know, I'd be interested to see, you know, what happens as far as what the contract details are to see if, you know, Philadelphia gave them an extra year that maybe another team didn't give them.

Speaker 8 You know, I thought that was interesting. I thought it was the battle where both teams are auditioning for him.

Speaker 8 And I thought if you look at the audition objectively, I think you would think that Dallas, you know, performed more admirably than or more dominant. than the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 8 I think that Philly may be a team that hasn't played well all year. And, you know, this is the kind of the last song song for them as Dallas is a team that's trending.

Speaker 8 You look at Philadelphia as a team that's trying to win, you know, in this last window before they have to reboot and find a different window. Yeah.
If you consider the fact that,

Speaker 8 you know, Kelsey's, you know, thinking about retirement, you think about Graham. And we noticed this is Cox last year as well.

Speaker 8 So it's kind of like the last dance where you're trying to see if they can pull one out.

Speaker 8 after playing bad and um finding ways to win but they ran into a juggernaut and we all know that you you know, when healthy, San Francisco is probably one of the most complete teams in all the NFL.

Speaker 1 So, so, a question about the run defense, because you did play in the NFL for a very long time, and defensive mentality, is it when it comes to stopping the run, Philadelphia has dudes.

Speaker 1 Is it a mentality thing? Like, is it at this point in the season where you say, hey, guys, we got to figure out a way, like, to kind of nut up here and stop the run?

Speaker 1 Or is it, hey, we just, we don't have maybe the linebackers that we need. We don't have the guys behind the the front line to schematically be able to stop the run.

Speaker 8 I mean, to me, it is the communicators on the second level, right? You talk about, you know, in the world of RPO game, it's about the linebackers being able to understand.

Speaker 8 That's why Shaq may not be what he once was, but, you know, he's a guy that has played at a high level. He's seen a lot of football, understands, you know, formations, tendencies.
down the distances,

Speaker 8 tips from linemen, pulling guards, guards sitting off the line of scrimmage, sitting heavy on their fingers he can help them with that pre-snap recognition the d-line can only do you know their part but at some point they can scheme getting linebackers up to the second level and you saw them bludgeon by um by san francisco and that's something that they're going to have to address because you can't stop the run in the playoffs you know where possessions are are shorter where teams find ways to move the sticks they scheme up you don't have familiarity with a lot of these teams when you play them because it may be the first time or the second time that you play them, but you don't know them, know them because they're not in your division.

Speaker 8 And, you know, they have you know you don't have that that intel that you need you know so you need a guy like shaq griffin that can kind of man the second level especially when you talk about an era where you have um formations and and you have schemes where teams don't go with regular personnel two tight ends you know it's three wide so you're stopping you're stopping the run out of a light box to do that you need everybody to be a man and a half not just a man for man because if you do that you cancel out and you get to the second level so you need you need war daddies that's gonna sit on the train tracks when the train's coming through.

Speaker 8 So, you know, Kelsey, guys like that, uncovered guys pulling into the second level. You have to understand how to stop scoop blocks, how to read the shoulders of the running backs.

Speaker 8 And it's a bit of a lost art. You have some good linebackers, but you can always tell the teams that don't really have high play at that position, you know, they get taken advantage of.

Speaker 1 I love that phrase, man and a half. War daddy.
Let's start calling my, I'm a man and a half, Bart.

Speaker 1 Who are your tops?

Speaker 8 With that shirt, you have to be a man and a half.

Speaker 1 I'm almost a man and three quarters right now. Who are your top?

Speaker 8 That's standard uniform or something.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's a uniform. It is, yeah.
It is. Yeah.
This is basically my day-to-day.

Speaker 1 Who are your top three man and a halves in the NFL? Who?

Speaker 8 Well, we talk about guys that, you know, I always loved Alvin Thompson out there in Cleveland, right? He's a throwback to the Casey Hampton type of fat boys. You know what I mean?

Speaker 8 Guys that's going to hold the jump throughs from getting to the linebackers. That's going to make sure he sits on the double teams to allow his linebackers to flow backwards.

Speaker 8 Of course, you can go with Quentin Williams.

Speaker 8 I think

Speaker 8 his stats don't really show and indicate how dominant he is, taking on double teams and freeing up the linebackers, CJ Mosley, and his brother behind him.

Speaker 8 But you also have to go with Dexter Sexy Dexie.

Speaker 8 He plays at a high level. He's a throwback, a big guy.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 you can pick anybody off of

Speaker 8 Jalen Carter. You can pick a lot of these war daddies on the other end.

Speaker 8 That's kind of what it has to be. You want to have a man for a man so you have that extra guy to the hole.
These are guys that play at high levels.

Speaker 8 Chris Jones does it a different way. He's not particularly sitting on it, but he's a little one-gap penetrator.

Speaker 8 So you got guys that can keep guys off, but then you got the one-gap penetrators like Aaron Donnell that gets penetration that forces the running back to cut back, where he allows the linebacker to stay square and fall back and understanding that

Speaker 8 the running back's reading the three technique. So you got to appreciate those type of guys, but I'm sure it's plenty that I'm leaving out, but it's a lot of guys playing at a high level.

Speaker 1 Name a few. As a linebacker, though, I feel like the linebacker position doesn't get talked about as much as it used to.

Speaker 1 It used to always be: you got to have a dude that's your middle linebacker, captain of the defense. He's the most feared person out there.
Now, more emphasis is put on

Speaker 1 the edge defenders, somebody that can get to the quarterback. But in your opinion, who are the best, like the most fearsome middle linebackers in the game right now?

Speaker 8 I mean,

Speaker 8 you still got,

Speaker 8 I'm thinking, I'm losing my thought about the guy out there in San Francisco. C.J.
Mosley plays at a high level. He's super consistent.

Speaker 1 Rayquan Smith.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Fred Warner. Rayquan Smith, of course.
Bobby Wagner still playing at extremely high level, still getting it done. He's kind of a throwback because now you look at these

Speaker 8 linebackers nowadays. They're three, you know, 2, 2, 35, 240.
He's a throwback to a 250, you know, plus size type of guy. Of course, I like Levante David, all those guys out in Tampa.

Speaker 8 They've been one of the most complete dynamic duels, I think, in the game for a long time. Their ability not only to to be liability, they're not liabilities on third down.

Speaker 8 So they don't take one of them out. They leave both of them out there.
They don't bring in a dying backer because they trust him against tight ends, which is usually a mitch match in today's game.

Speaker 8 So I can really appreciate those guys. And you figure out that you don't have a linebacker.
You only know about a linebacker when you don't have one.

Speaker 8 I mean,

Speaker 8 where would Buffalo be if they had Milano who was playing at an all-pro

Speaker 8 season? And he was probably, you know, that defense was drastically better.

Speaker 8 he was he was killing them right uh you know one of the guys that kind of pop up is the the cat from um i think is it logan or something like that for uh for cincinnati you know i you know i like the way that he managed the middle but you know you think about where where buffalo would be with milano i think they would definitely be a plus two you know in the win column and still sitting in the driver's seat as far as being able to you know uh

Speaker 8 not be on the outside looking in in this division. It'd be a tighter race.
Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're talking about Logan Wilson on the Bengals.

Speaker 1 One thing I like about you, Bart, is that you feel like you played in the league for a long time and you've been in media for a long time, but you hold grudges.

Speaker 1 And I like that. I like players that hold grudges.
So

Speaker 1 you hate the Patriots.

Speaker 1 How much fun is it?

Speaker 8 I don't really hate the Patriots. I hate Bill Belichick.
Bill Belichick, yeah.

Speaker 1 So how much fun has it been to watch this Patriots team be this bad this year?

Speaker 8 I mean, listen, I remember, you know, when the Patriots were playing the Atlanta Falcons, right? And I can remember Trash talking to 12-year-old.

Speaker 8 And I told him, listen, you know, take your victory lap now. You have a team.
Of course, he wasn't from, you know, New England, Boston area, Providence area.

Speaker 8 He was just a kid that's following the wave. You know, the same difference like when you look up and you see a bunch of Golden State Warrior fans, you know, they're Fuges.

Speaker 8 You know, they're not real fans. They're just jumping on the wave, the bandwagon, the popular team, right? But the same thing make you laugh, make you cry.

Speaker 8 So I just wanted to inform this 12-year-old, and it's come to fruition a lot earlier than i thought that when 12 retired his life as a patriots fans would be miserable so like all the jerseys that he got enjoy it now right i'm sure the same was being said when the guarantee happened with the jet fans and jet fans never knew what what lies ahead of them well i think the same thing lies ahead of the patriots right the patriots are going to go back they won in their window and they dominated we'll never see an organization dominate like that again But for all the people that's not from there has no reason to be Patriots fans, just jumped on the wave because Tom Brady Brady was popular.

Speaker 8 He had Giselle. They're winning Super Bowls.
Now they're going to live in the misery. And now they're going to figure out what it's like to replace Jim Kelly.

Speaker 8 They're going to figure out what it's like to try and replace Dan Marino. They're going to see what it's like to try and replace, you know, Joe Namoth.

Speaker 8 And, you know, that's what I love about football, that it's balance, right? And the football guys always open the windows and close the windows.

Speaker 8 And the same thing, the same people that was pounding their chest, you know, chest out like a peacock strutting they stuff, you know, it's now going to realize that they got a life full of misery ahead of them because that's pathetic over there.

Speaker 8 And then they're going to walk away just like, you know, Miami had to walk away from Don Shula. And at some point, you know,

Speaker 8 you either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.

Speaker 8 And pretty soon, Bill Belichick is entering the Sith Lord type of realm where I think that fans are going to start to hate him.

Speaker 8 They realize that the Patriot Wave was more about, you know, Tom Brady than it was him. And they realize what they have in the future because he ruined Mac Jones.

Speaker 8 And you're going to trust him to pick another quarterback and develop another quarterback and make his defensive coordinator, the offensive coordinator, and screw another kid up.

Speaker 8 You just set yourself up for another five years of mediocrity, right? And I'm not sitting here pounding my chest as a Jets fan because, you know, we haven't figured it out either.

Speaker 8 I mean, you know, Zach Wilson won't be here. I'm sure they'll probably try and take a swing again, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

Speaker 8 And we'll see if what team in this division is able to try and find the answer. For years, it was Buffalo and Miami.
Seems like Miami has found their answer. Tour has found a way.

Speaker 8 Maybe the Jiu-Jitsu, he's found a way how to fall softly, or maybe he's found out how to get rid of the ball so quick that he can't get hit. But those two guys

Speaker 8 have their answers. Their quarterback, we have maybe a temporary band-aid on a gunshot wound

Speaker 8 in

Speaker 8 Aaron Rodgers. But after that,

Speaker 8 we'll find ourselves right back where we've always found ourselves searching for a franchise quarterback. I like how that started.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, I don't hate the Patriots. I just hate Bill Belichick.
And then the grudge comes out. Like I said, I like that.

Speaker 1 I like when players retire and they're in the media and they're not just going to start like, you know, sucking everyone off. It's like, I have grudges.
I have people I hate.

Speaker 8 Well, Bill was an ass to me on something that had nothing to do with football. So like after my career.
So like,

Speaker 8 listen, I'm an equal opportunist asshole. You know what I'm saying? Listen, I'm a can-man.
Anybody can get it. I don't care who the hell you are.
So if he got smoked, we got smoke.

Speaker 8 So like, listen, if I see him and he wants something, he can get some. I don't discriminate, age discriminate, nothing.
Yeah, you said that. I don't rock, I don't rock with him.

Speaker 1 I think the quote was, you said, if Belichick was on fire, you wouldn't piss on him. Would you? No, not at all.
Do you still want to piss on him?

Speaker 8 No, I'll probably try and stump the fire out.

Speaker 1 What if he was like, Bart, I'm on fire. I'm sorry for everything I said.
Can you please piss on me?

Speaker 8 I ain't gonna be able to do it. Okay.

Speaker 1 That wouldn't feel even a little bit good to just piss on Bill Belichick.

Speaker 8 No, I'd rather let him burn.

Speaker 1 One thing I also appreciate about you is that you have served kind of as like a realistic point of view for Mike Greenberg.

Speaker 1 Because Greeny needs all these like emotional support animals around him when the Jets start screwing something up. You tell it like it is to him.
Can we get a status

Speaker 1 update on Greene? Is he okay now?

Speaker 8 I mean, listen, he understands this is a failed season.

Speaker 8 Before yesterday started, we were talking about how everybody that has a backup quarterback. What's up, ho? You know, we talking about how everybody that has a backup quarterback

Speaker 8 is sucking and

Speaker 8 nobody's going to make it. And then Brownie does what he does last night.
So we got to kind of hit the refresh button and say, maybe it is

Speaker 8 something to do with the play call and the discipline and the development because we saw a backup come up yesterday that had two weeks ago never thrown a pass in the NFL in a regular season game, throw for 300 yesterday.

Speaker 8 you know you know shout out to you know cincinnati because it looks like they still may find a way to sneak in now it depends on who's going to to fall first.

Speaker 8 Is it going to be Mitch Trubisky as the backup that kind of ruins the Pittsburgh Stillers season, or will Brownie be able to continue to play at this level to find a way to sneak in?

Speaker 8 It's going to be interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I, I, I, the Jets are this whole Zach Wilson thing, too.
Like, I mean, do you, do you, where do you side on Zach Wilson saying he might not want to play because of the injury risk?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 it does feel like it's over between Zach Wilson and the Jets. So why, why would he play? Or do you think that that's kind of a soft move?

Speaker 8 Well,

Speaker 8 if he goes with that philosophy, then I think he's going to get a black eye. Cause listen, he's set up to be his art.
The backup world is already saturated.

Speaker 8 And if you haven't proved that you can play, then as a backup, you don't have a lot of value. I mean, Baker Mayfield was a backup.
Sam Darrow was a backup.

Speaker 8 They accomplished more as a quarterback than Zach Wilson.

Speaker 8 you know he's going to have to try and find a place and the fact that you know you you kind of gave up on your troops you know or it's going to to be perceived that you gave up on your troop you had an opportunity to play football and you decided not to because it was in your best interest like you need to go out there and show that you are you know that you can play football you can continue to be a professional you know because that's the life of a backup backup gets plays he goes down he may be you know submitted to the practice squad depending on what the numbers are so if he doesn't do that and make that decision you know it's going you know could could be detrimental to him as you know all these coaches talk.

Speaker 8 And if he had did everything right,

Speaker 8 he had went out there, played,

Speaker 8 did everything he was supposed to do. And now all of a sudden, if he does this, it erases all the good favor that he got from handling the press conference.
Right.

Speaker 8 We knew it was tough for him to be able to accept the blame, most of the blame. Some was here, some was warned, and some was just the fact that

Speaker 8 this offense wasn't built for him. And if it doesn't have Aaron Rodgers in it, we've never seen it be successful with Nathaniel Hackle, if anybody out named Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, GMs love to have a guy as a backup quarterback where they can say, like, this guy's a pro. This guy's a professional.

Speaker 1 And if you do something like saying, I don't really want to play for the rest of the year, I don't want to get hurt.

Speaker 1 I feel like a lot of GMs are going to look at that and be like, we just want like a stable backup guy, a humble guy that can come in and keep his mouth shut, do his job.

Speaker 1 And I feel like Zach Wilson's kind of taken himself out of that market a little bit, in addition to what you said, like never actually being that good in the games.

Speaker 8 Well,

Speaker 8 what about the fact that all the times that the defense still had his back after he had bad performances, continued to go out there and support him publicly, even though you know they were frustrated with some of his play so you know really that's the those are the guys that you're telling you I don't want to get hurt well what are they saying is you know they didn't say hey I don't want to go out there because Zach you know can't play we can't put points up so I don't want to get hurt because I'm a free agent they went out there and tried to win and do their part so if he doesn't do his part I think it's going to be a black eye for him so we'll see if if you know Aaron Rodgers words reportedly you know reaching out to him you know but the fact that this report is out here I think the damage is already done so we've talked about this with the Jets this year, and you played on some defenses where the offense wasn't that great.

Speaker 1 How much pressure is it on a defense when you get on the field on Sunday and you know that your offense is not going to score more than like 10, 14 points?

Speaker 1 Do you feel it game to game where you're like, we have to be perfect, otherwise we don't have a chance to win?

Speaker 8 I mean, we always had good kickers, so we knew that we can manufacture some scores, and we knew that if we got turnovers, we really practiced on pitching the ball and getting in because we knew if our offense got it.

Speaker 8 No, no, no, no, seriously.

Speaker 8 if you ever watch any of our ravens games you see ed reed you see multiple pitches you see everybody it was organized it wasn't something that we were just doing you know uh sporadically you know we set up a perimeter the the guy who was closest to the intended receiver make sure that somebody blocks the intended receiver so he can't tackle from behind we got to our nearest side we got to the sit nearest sideline guys peeled back and guys went and looked for the athletes and we left the offensive lineman to whoever was returning the ball.

Speaker 8 If you look at Ed Reed touchdowns, the Ray Lewis touchdowns, the DeWon Landry touchdowns, the Chad Williams touchdowns, they were all orchestrated and it looked like a kickoff return.

Speaker 8 That's because we practiced it and we worked on it.

Speaker 8 It can go all the way back to, you know, Ravens was one of the first teams that people can remember on Monday Night Football against Denver, where Chris McAllister went back on a long field goal and took it back to the house.

Speaker 8 Like nothing that we did was by happenstance. It was all premeditated and understood and worked out.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was very, very fun to watch. So I want to bring up something.
Um, maybe it might be a little sore subject, the butt fumble. The butt fumble, because I've always wondered about that game.

Speaker 8 I think it's the most overrated incident. Just because you give it a cool name, don't mean that it's a very cool name.

Speaker 1 It's a very cool name. It's a cool name.
And also, he did run into the guy's ass. Yeah.
He did.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but yeah, okay. He ran into the back of his lineman who was being pissed, pushed back.
by urgly one of the greatest deep tackles in the game, Vince Wilfort.

Speaker 8 So, of course, he's scrambling and the guy gets pushed back into him. We've seen guys get tackled plenty of times by getting pushed back.

Speaker 8 We saw the Jets get a safety by pushing a lineman back and tackling the running back. It's happened so many times that you can't even name it.

Speaker 8 But because you put a name on it, like butt fumble, and it makes it seem like, oh, it's cool. And like, it's something that's rare.
Yeah. It happens all the time.

Speaker 8 He's not the first guy to fumble because somebody pushed back the defense.

Speaker 1 But he ran into his butt. His face kind of ran into his ass.
The butt part.

Speaker 1 You're not picking up on how funny the ass part.

Speaker 8 No, no, no, I get it.

Speaker 8 I don't know if you do get it.

Speaker 1 No, no, he ran into his butt.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 8 It's a big ass, right?

Speaker 1 It's a big person.

Speaker 8 So, of course, if he runs to the back, if you run into the back of somebody and they're bent over, their ass is the farthest thing away.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's still the butts. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, but

Speaker 8 I think it's one of the overrated things. They try to have the anniversary and stuff like that.
It happens all the time. You heard Mark Sanchez talk about it in week one.

Speaker 8 Like, oh, so guy runs into a guy and fumbles the ball. Oh, what a kiwinky thing.

Speaker 1 But from your perspective, because I know that you don't hold back. And when you get to the locker room and you watch the replay for the first time, did anybody?

Speaker 8 I never saw the replay.

Speaker 1 Oh, you should watch it. It's very funny.
That's why you don't know how to do it. It's really funny.
It's really funny.

Speaker 8 I've seen it since then. I know it's Brandon Moore.
Yeah. But when it happened, I never even, like, I just knew he fumbled.
How did he fumble? He ran until he ran to the lineman.

Speaker 1 The butt. You're missing the butt part.
I still don't got it.

Speaker 8 It's a big ass. It's a big ass.
I mean,

Speaker 8 I played with Hilody Nad and Chris Jenkins. You know how many times I've seen guys get knocked down and fumble because he threw people into them, and I'm sure they asked his part of that tackle.

Speaker 8 It was

Speaker 8 common practice

Speaker 8 for the defensive tackles that I played with.

Speaker 8 You try to run a zone scheme. You get pushed back.

Speaker 1 Tackle with the ass. So no one made a joke about it to Mark afterwards.

Speaker 1 I could imagine somebody trying to take the air out of the situation, making the first joke, and Mark just like staring at him and be like, dude, don't joke about that right now.

Speaker 8 Listen, I don't think anybody on the team ever like even really associated that he got tackled by ass. It's only when like it goes on the media.

Speaker 8 But I feel like the Jets are one of those organizations where like, you know, people just look to crack jokes about. And I don't understand like the national hate.

Speaker 8 you know why pate manning you know with his big ass forehead and it looking like lurchin looking like frankenstein you know himself would ever have like a joke at a country a country awards when at that time the organization that he played for was big, was a bigger joke with what was going on with the Broncos early in the season than when he made the joke about the Jets who had just beat the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 8 So, but yet, you know, I don't know why Peyton Manning hates the Jets so much. You can hear it whenever he comes on and he does his Manning cast.

Speaker 8 Like, even when they're winning, like, they beat the Buffalo Bills, but you wouldn't think that they were going to beat the Buffalo Bills based on how Peyton and Eli was talking about him.

Speaker 8 I have no idea. You know, he also gave Adam Gates, which was a Manchurian candidate who likely was brought in here to ruin the organization.

Speaker 8 Peyton Manning refused to come here, right? So that's another thing that he's done. So like, I have no idea why he hates the Jets so much and why he thinks like the Jets.

Speaker 8 Like, listen, so I don't understand it, right? Because I came from an organization that's well respected in the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 8 So like all this, like, it just seems like people like to make the Jets the butt of the joke. Like, listen, I have to own up to that.

Speaker 8 I have to be a part of that because, you know, I'm a part of that history. But when I played outside of the butt fumble, you can't say any of the teams that I played on was a joke.
Oh, you were good.

Speaker 8 I took the NFL and everybody took that team very seriously, whether we fell short or not.

Speaker 8 We had respectability. But

Speaker 8 I don't get why everybody,

Speaker 8 Jets, Mets, Nick's, like they're just easy punching bags, not just for people like in the division, but I think people as a whole just like to clown them.

Speaker 8 And I never got it, but you never understood it. You know, maybe it goes back to something, you know, far, far before I even started paying attention to sports.

Speaker 8 but it's like those teams like get clowned like those teams get clowned more than the lions i'm a lions fan i'm from detroit the lions have been the worst organization in the history of sports them and the cleveland browns and they don't get the national hate i think because people are envious of the fact that it's a new york team they think that new yorkers are arrogant because they're supposed to have the best of everything but they haven't won any titles to really suggest you know you know who they are right you know if you title time you would think boston right you would think those teams are los angels teams that have have had more.

Speaker 8 Well, Philly hadn't won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 They were the last team within the division to ever win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 So, you know, the Sixers are okay, but they've been, you know, the process has been a failed experiment as well. Facts.

Speaker 1 Facts.

Speaker 1 Phillies. Yeah.
No, wait. Phillies didn't win anything.
Yeah. No, you're right.
Philadelphia Union.

Speaker 1 It is the Jets too.

Speaker 8 It was Boston. Boston.
Boston was title title for a long time between the Bruins and Red Sox and

Speaker 8 the 2000s, early 2000s was basically based in Boston.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Um, one of our guys that we love, who we think is elite, came back to the NFL this week, Joe Flacco.
You played with him for a year, you played against him when you were on the Jets.

Speaker 1 Uh, how did you ever stop and be like, damn, he throws such a nice spiral? Because he really does.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I used to call him, I used to call him Frida, and Fucko was his nickname for my nickname for him.

Speaker 8 And well, people don't, people don't know that he came in the league and he has a, he came in the league like Anthony Davis. He has a full-grown Unibra.

Speaker 8 And so I used to call him Frida. That was my nickname for him.
Of course, people know my nickname for for mark sanchez was nacho um

Speaker 8 but you know flacco that's when i stopped calling him and he threw it he threw a 15 yard out which is the hardest ball to to throw it's the farthest ball and he threw it on point i stopped calling him fucko i stepped calling him frida but i stopped calling him fucko yeah i mean he does have i think the nicest spiral in the in the nfl and that's something that he has one he has one of the strongest arms he has one of the hardest one of the strongest arms in the history of football yeah in my opinion and carson palmer before he hurt that time he had the time he Giants, same difference.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I read a story that you got suspended one time for eating an apple. Is that true?

Speaker 8 No, you guys went deep into the archives, right? They call it Bar Scott's Fearful Beginnings.

Speaker 8 This is well documented. You know what I mean? I had a defense coordinator that was an asshole.
And

Speaker 8 he decided to focus on me eating the apple. you know, while we were getting our ass kicked.
And obviously me and him was the only ones in there because he had benched me. And,

Speaker 8 you know, he tried to smack the apple my hand.

Speaker 8 And, you know, there's certain things that you can do to me, but being from Detroit to me and built on respect, culture not, you know, we're going to challenge that authority when you stand over me as a grown-ass man at that point, you know, 19 years old.

Speaker 8 And so I was ready for the smoke, right? So like, you know, he didn't want to smoke. He acted like he wanted to smoke, but I ended up getting kicked off the team.

Speaker 8 And that kind of hurt me because people thought, didn't know who I was. They thought I was like a bad person.

Speaker 8 Didn't understand that I had committed to Michigan State, that I turned down the scholarship to Michigan State. And that's a whole nother story within itself.
But,

Speaker 8 you know, that guy tried to kiss my ass years later when he was a member of Morgan State.

Speaker 8 Trying to tell everybody that he had coached me, because at that point, I was a starter for the Ravens. And he was trying to impress the staff in Morgan State by saying, oh,

Speaker 8 I coached him. And

Speaker 8 we had a receiver that delivered the message to me. So I delivered a message back.
And, you know, he's trying to hold court with his guys, right, where people come from different places.

Speaker 8 They're trying to act like they're big time. And he was like, oh, I told Bart, you said hi.
And he's like, oh, yeah, what'd he say?

Speaker 8 He said, when I see you, he said, when you see him in the streets, I'm going to kick your ass.

Speaker 1 He forgot about shit.

Speaker 8 And to this date, if I see Mike Biden in the streets, I'm going to smack the shit out of him because

Speaker 8 he tried to take a dream from a kid that was just trying to play hard and wasn't doing anything wrong. And I'm not the only guy he did it against.
But, you know, that led to some other stuff.

Speaker 8 Jerry Kill.

Speaker 1 Jerry Kill, all-time football guy. I love Jerry Kill.

Speaker 8 So Jerry Kill, when the Ravens came and people had questions about my character

Speaker 8 told the Baltimore Ravens, who were the only team that came and scouted me, that if he died today, he would be honored if I raised his children. So

Speaker 8 that erased all doubts about my character, who I've never,

Speaker 8 you know, even post-career, never heard my name in any controversy, anything at all. Right.
I've always been clean, straight down the middle. I just don't take no shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Jerry Kill, that's a big thing from Jerry Kill because football almost killed him. He had seizures and he just loves football so much.
He's like, I got got to keep coaching football.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I talk to him all the time. He's the best.

Speaker 8 He's a football lifer. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't think you have grudges. I think you just remember facts.
Yeah, that's what I think. I think you remember things that happen and you don't forget them.

Speaker 8 Well, you do that. You keep that energy for life.
So, like, you know, Bill, Mike Veit,

Speaker 8 I don't care. On site.

Speaker 1 Peyton Manning. Would you piss on Peyton Manning if he was on fire?

Speaker 8 Well, no, I don't mind Peyton, right? You know what I'm saying? I just don't, the hate is one thing, but I don't dislike Peyton Manning. I love love Peyton Mann.

Speaker 8 I think he's one of the funniest dudes ever. I think his personality

Speaker 8 belongs on the face of Tom Brady. Like Tom Brady is supposed to be the cool, funny, cool guy, right? But Tom is opposite.
And actually, Peyton is the funniest guy. You know what I mean?

Speaker 8 The cool guy, the guy you want to hang out with. Yeah.
Right. Because personality, right? You know, who knew that he had this, him and Eli had this type of talent, the dry sarcastic humor.

Speaker 8 You know what I mean? They're like the football version of Will Farrell.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, how many times, I know you got to run in a second.
How many times do people on a given day day just yell, can't wait at you?

Speaker 8 I get it all the time. You know, it's kind of like, you know, Icky with the icky shuffle.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 8 I can remember seeing Icky and Iggy was like, God still coming to him, asking him to the iggy shuffle. He's like, man, I'm 40, man.
I don't do the icky shuckle no more.

Speaker 8 But I don't mind can't wait. I mean, especially around here, you know, they haven't had much to replace it.
So, you know, we hold on to it. I think Richard Sherman tried to do a similar

Speaker 8 interview later, but it didn't come off as authentic. And the punchlines wasn't flowing as well.
Yeah. But he tried his attempt.
You know, the reports are that

Speaker 8 he had did it already with the Spanish

Speaker 8 network and then he actually recreated it.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 8 But I like Sherman. You know what I mean? I like he speaks his mind.
And listen, I would like to think that because he saw mine, that he felt great to express.

Speaker 8 And I would think that the reporters went over there because they were hoping, knowing that me and him had similar personalities, that he could be able to spit some hot fire.

Speaker 8 Now, you know what I mean? It's not quite the ether that I put out there as far as the bars.

Speaker 8 If you break down the bars, you'll realize that it was some, the can't waves the punchline, but the poetic justice, the nosebleed, and all that type of stuff was actually the hottest bars that probably was ever spit in a post-career rant.

Speaker 8 So I'll own that.

Speaker 1 That's great. All right.
I know you got to run. This has been awesome, Bart.
We appreciate it. You're welcome back on anytime.

Speaker 1 Also, how awesome was Jim Leonard at football?

Speaker 8 Jim Leonard was great at football. I think, you know, Jim Leonard being hurt really stopped us from being able to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 The fact that he was out, you know, if we had had him or Chris Jenkins just healthy in any of those NFC playoffs, those AFC championships,

Speaker 8 we'd have won with Jim Leonard. But if we'd have had Chris Jenkins, it wouldn't have even been close.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow. My last, last question.
Just how awesome is it being named Bart?

Speaker 1 That must have been pretty cool when Bartholomew am out.

Speaker 8 Well, actually, it's Bartholomew. My dad's name is Bartholomew.
My son's name is Bartholomew. So it's...
I love that. I was just saying.
One thing about Bartholomew is, you know,

Speaker 8 I get to the interview before they realize I'm black.

Speaker 1 Bartholomew, yeah. Bart is a great man.

Speaker 8 At that point, it's too late. You know, if you go with all those 80s babies, Deion Jay and Devontae Dow and all that shit, they deny those interviews.
They don't even get to the building.

Speaker 8 So I'm all good.

Speaker 1 I did my research on you. I knew that you were African-American before we started this.
Yes.

Speaker 8 You did think so. I did.

Speaker 1 I knew. I knew.
Well, Bart.

Speaker 8 You didn't know if I was Wayne Brady black or you didn't know if I was

Speaker 1 Wesley Tag Black. Now you got your answer.
I'm not going to comment on that. I'm not going to comment on that, but that's fair.
Yeah, Bart, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 1 We'd love to have you on again. And good luck with your radio show today.

Speaker 8 Appreciate it. Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Firefest time.

Speaker 1 I think, I mean,

Speaker 1 Hank, or sorry, PFT, Jake, and I, do you guys want to go real quick? Because I think it's really Hank and Max.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I can forfeit my speech.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't really have anything. I just got to speak.
I'm really tired today. Yeah.
Like today, it's been an exhausting week. Yeah.
And today we just work pretty much non-stop.

Speaker 1 I slept like six hours last night. Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 I had like seven hours, but I need my eight. Yeah.
you know that.

Speaker 1 So I'm basically running on like less than fumes right now. Yeah.
I can't wait to go home. Just you know, probably take a long weekend.
Yeah. Recuperate, rejuvenate my body.
I'm just exhausted. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your body doesn't recover, you know, when you're no, it takes a couple days.

Speaker 1 Uh, Max and Hank, do you guys have a fire fest for us?

Speaker 4 I'll let Max go. I mean,

Speaker 1 he's, he's like, he, he, you've never looked more like Hagrid.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, Max is

Speaker 4 in a worse state right now than I am.

Speaker 1 Max, so Max didn't sleep. Hank slept for five hours.
False.

Speaker 1 How many hours was it, Max? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'll tell the story. We did a 24-hour stream.

Speaker 4 It was a lot of fun. Thank you to everyone that tuned in.

Speaker 1 It was awesome, everyone.

Speaker 4 It was good vibes with the chat. This was at like 4 or 5 in the morning.
Me and Max were just loopy hours. having some laughs, messing around with the chat.

Speaker 4 They kept asking us to kiss, take our tarps off, and just asking all types of ridiculous stuff. And we had the timer that was like 17 hours, 18 hours.
And I was starting to get tired.

Speaker 4 It was 4 o'clock in the morning, and I'd been up all day. I was like,

Speaker 4 I know if I don't sleep for a little bit, I'm going to want to die. Like, by the time Big Cat and PFT come back, they're going to be awake.

Speaker 4 I'm going to be tired, and they're just going to be like making us do stuff. I'm going to be miserable.
So I made

Speaker 4 a deal with the chat. If I kissed Max's gout toe

Speaker 4 that I could sleep, I was like, if I do that, can I sleep? And they're like, yep, it's not gout. We made a deal, not gout, whatever.

Speaker 1 It's diabetes.

Speaker 4 Not diabetes. So I kissed his toe, fell asleep for like two hours, I think.
And that made a huge difference. I woke up seven o'clock.
We started doing karaoke.

Speaker 4 But by the end of the day, I still had a little bit of energy, a little bit of momentum. Like you can go one day on a little bit of sleep.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Going a full day and a half on zero sleep, which is what Max is doing.

Speaker 1 Which is what Max did.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 as the day was going forward, I just watched his body die. In the last like four hours, he just wasn't like a human being.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, he was just a body.

Speaker 1 The lights were on. Nobody was home.
Now, Max,

Speaker 1 this would really be a horrific turn of events if for some reason you forgot to push the button.

Speaker 3 I'm going to push a button.

Speaker 1 And you ended up with a two-year soul patch.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 I'm going to push it. How are you going to...

Speaker 1 What do you have in place right now to make sure the button's pushed? I'm just not going to leave this place until it's up. Okay, so other people will be around you? Yeah.
Do you have a spotter?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think you should have a spotter.
Also, like, yeah, Max, Hank, you guys did an awesome job. It was incredible.
You guys were great. Memes is a fucking soldier.

Speaker 1 Memes stayed up the entire time, too, helping to produce it, which we didn't ask him to do, but memes was like, I'm going to do this. He was killing him.
He did the shit out of it. So Evan and Shawty.

Speaker 1 Also, Evan Big Team just crushed it.

Speaker 1 But Max, man, like, I walked away from the stream with a newfound appreciation for Max. You were MVP? MVP.

Speaker 1 I call him Max Delante West because that dude's a motherfucker. If we have an MVP, do we have to have an LVP?

Speaker 1 I don't. I guess you kind of have to.
All right, so Max is the MVP.

Speaker 1 Who else was in the stream? Hank and I were in there. I think Hank was in there.
Yeah, I don't mind.

Speaker 4 Listen, Max.

Speaker 1 And listen, go ahead. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Max was MVP. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you guys did it. You did all 22 and a half hours.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Big stream.
Yeah, we did. So when are we going to do the 24-hour stream?

Speaker 4 I mean, you guys told us that we did it.

Speaker 1 I know, I know.

Speaker 1 I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 I did say when you guys got out, I was like, I can't believe they got out or they left early because they have to know I'm going to bring it off. Weren't the time? I didn't give off.
Weren't they?

Speaker 1 I know. 24 hours? 24 hours.
They did 22 and a half.

Speaker 1 So close. Well,

Speaker 4 you guys gave us things to do.

Speaker 4 Some of the, and I think I did a great job. The people that I watched

Speaker 4 will say I was complaint free. So was Max.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was just the time when we were doing picks and preview, and I, and PFT was doing his ads and then I pulled up the chat and everyone was calling me Hitler. That was, yeah, that came out.

Speaker 1 No control.

Speaker 1 No one complained. No, get that happening.
The chat was awesome. It isn't me.
Because the chat fucked with you guys a little bit, but in a funny way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you guys did accomplish, like, they turned on me and Big Cat. They're like, these guys are the ones that are the puppet masters.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we came out of taping the show and Max and Hank were like, you guys did a poll? And we're like, no, we've been taping the show. And they're like, fuck, the chat got us.

Speaker 1 So the chat, the chat might be the mvp too because they they're very funny the chat is always so fucking funny in those things and also please stop calling him hank vic we've moved on past that he did hit blake he did do a marty mcsorley and uh and hit my dog in the head with a hockey stick but that's okay we've moved on i apologize to blake and a lot of people again like i i take full responsibility i was trying to take all the ownership completely there was a lot of people not me that were saying like PFT let his dog go off a leash into a game that we were basically playing to the death and if you scored a goal then you you know know, you won a massive, massive prize.

Speaker 4 And Blake

Speaker 4 drumped like 10 minutes of phone time. And Blake jumped in front of the ball.
I did hit him, and I did feel very bad. And I take full responsibility.

Speaker 4 So the people saying that's kind of on the owner for putting his dog in that situation.

Speaker 1 I disagree with.

Speaker 1 I halfway agree. I think it's 50% on me, 50% on Hank.

Speaker 4 I'll take full ownership.

Speaker 1 Max, I want to hear from you, though, because

Speaker 1 you are running on more than fumes.

Speaker 1 What's going on? What's going on in the head right now?

Speaker 1 Not a lot.

Speaker 2 Not a lot going on in this head of mine.

Speaker 4 BMCs.

Speaker 2 BMCs was a thing that got brought up.

Speaker 1 Who is BMCs?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 That's between me and the demon hours of the chat. What's BMCs?

Speaker 1 Yes, tell us what BMCs. Memes, what's BMCs?

Speaker 1 Big meaty clackers.

Speaker 1 Max said his camel, like

Speaker 1 there was a close-up shot of his camel, though.

Speaker 4 I was like, damn, dude, you got some big-ass nuts.

Speaker 1 And he was like, yeah, my big, my friends used to call him the big meaty clackers.

Speaker 1 The thing about Max is he's got huge balls. The BMCs.
Now the whole titty fucking thing makes sense. Why you can't do it? You can't pin it.

Speaker 1 It's just two of those clackers.

Speaker 1 Who's fucking who?

Speaker 1 Okay, so Max, you were. Max Max could definitely titty fuck somebody with his nuts.
Yeah, he's titty fucking his own dick.

Speaker 1 He just tucks it down. He just draws nipples on each ball and starts going up and down.
Down hurt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't like titty fucking because it's just looking at your own penis every day.

Speaker 1 All right, so Max, yeah, like, are you,

Speaker 1 you guys, you guys were troopers. 24 hours in that room was crazy.
Did you start to just lose time and space? What point was it like, where the fuck are we?

Speaker 4 Mine, it was probably one of the highlights was I don't know what time it was. Obviously, we were in a room with no windows, and I did sleep for a little bit, but I woke up.
I was delirious.

Speaker 4 We played a game, and then we just started doing karaoke. It was probably like 8 a.m., 9 a.m.

Speaker 4 You guys came in to get karaoke. Will came in, and like, it was just one of those.
I was like kind of tired, kind of got energy, and just started scream, screaming, singing. Just went all in.

Speaker 4 And that was like one of the and then I was watching the clip back. I was like, this is funny.

Speaker 1 I was like, I think this was at 8 a.m. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 first thing in the morning, we were just doing karaoke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, overnight, like, I know that we probably shouldn't have started it at 9 p.m.

Speaker 1 But it was very funny leaving you guys where you guys were like kind of angry about the situation, still had some pep, and then coming back in the morning and it was like we just came into two different people.

Speaker 1 You're just like,

Speaker 1 we're just grizzled vets.

Speaker 1 Don't fuck with us. We've already reached the point of no return.

Speaker 1 When I left, Hank was very salty about putting together the Ikea furniture to the point where Hank in protest just took a hammer and started just beating the one like wooden piece with it.

Speaker 1 And you're like, I'm building. I'm building.
Are you happy? The facilities here aren't up to my code. And then the facilities were fucked.

Speaker 1 In the morning, when I woke up, the first thing that I saw was the picture of the shelf that Max built overnight. And it's the funniest fucking shelf I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Like you put all the pieces together, but they don't fit at all. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I thought that I was walking out of that with the perfectly built dresser.

Speaker 2 And then once I, it was like you built everything separately. And then once you put them together, that's like what made the final dresser.
And I had each piece, and I was working on it for six hours.

Speaker 2 I started at 11 p.m.

Speaker 2 Finished it at 5 a.m.

Speaker 2 And it was like a moment. I like turned to memes.
I was like, memes, I did it, man. I finally made the dresser.

Speaker 2 It's gonna happen. And then I put all the cabinets into the thing and just immediately just started to cry.

Speaker 1 Like, something like it was, like, it was legitimately from a movie.

Speaker 2 Like, when Jerry walked in and he looked at that dresser, like, it was one of those laughs that, like, I'll remember that laugh forever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, this is the cabinet. It looked like Homer Simpson's spice rack thing.
And then, and then.

Speaker 4 I was so mad you guys didn't give us chairs to build. That was, that was all my

Speaker 1 fucking

Speaker 1 chairs. Well, we actually were thinking practically, we're like...
When we did the meeting before, we were like, you know what?

Speaker 1 We could probably use like a dresser or drawer here and maybe a TV stand. So there was practical use to it, just not in the moment.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys crushed it. I thought that was very fun.
I mean, we have some more bets coming up, but that one was a very fun one.

Speaker 4 That was fun. I would say the two low lights, sneaky,

Speaker 4 shouldn't seem as bad, but the puzzle was brutal.

Speaker 1 Oh, you came in. I came in.
Max had built half his puzzle, and Hank just looked at me and like snarled. And he's like, Did you fuck with my puzzle? I was like, dude, I didn't even fucking buy these.

Speaker 1 Because you guys reached a point where I thought everything we did was fucking open.

Speaker 4 Well, the bag was open. Yeah.
It's like, what?

Speaker 1 I don't think we fucked with you that bad.

Speaker 4 No, but I was on high alert. But really, the worst thing that we did that still is probably going to be the thing that affects me the most throughout the weekend was playing knee hockey to start.

Speaker 4 Yeah. My knees fucking kill.
Like

Speaker 1 scratched up. So funny, though.

Speaker 4 Every time I stand up, it hurts. And like every time I'm moving,

Speaker 4 they're all torn up.

Speaker 1 Max or Shaq's going to hurt really bad, too. Yeah, Max in front of that goal was just so funny.
He looked like he had diapers on. Oh, yeah.
You were wearing the pants.

Speaker 2 So I was wearing the pants and then I was also wearing shorts underneath because I was worried about climate control over the next 24 hours.

Speaker 4 BMCs. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You had a moment where you're standing in front of the goal and the pants are so ridiculous that there was no five-hole. Zero five-hole.

Speaker 2 It was great strategy by me. And then I took them off and went straight knee to car, like the thinnest carpet of all time.
It was basically kneaded cement.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 2 it was, we were so excited for

Speaker 2 knee hockey at first. And then by the end of it, we were like,

Speaker 2 do, we were gonna go first to 100, and then we were like, Let's do first to seven.

Speaker 1 Smart,

Speaker 1 and first of seven took like 15 minutes, yeah, took a while. Yeah, uh, what about the paintings? How do we feel? Oh, the paintings are right behind us, yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of guys did a good job with these paintings. Max's painting is really nice.

Speaker 1 Look at that. We got the Black Mountain, and then we got the

Speaker 4 pretty good. Yeah, that's where Max in the middle of Bob Ross.
He's like, look at these facilities Bob Ross has. And then I just, it's like, yeah, we have shitty facilities.

Speaker 1 Facilities became the word of the day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great job, though, guys.

Speaker 1 I know the AWLs appreciate it because you guys were very, very entertaining for 24 hours.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, we had a lot of people watching in the middle of the night that I always blows my mind because we were just

Speaker 4 loopy as fuck.

Speaker 4 I did sleep talk and yell at memes in my sleep. Yeah, completely.

Speaker 1 That's so funny. Would you say, don't you fucking try it, memes?

Speaker 4 Yeah, like I unprompted, I was completely asleep. I watched the clipboard.
I was like, yeah, no, I don't. This wasn't even like half conscious.

Speaker 4 I just was like, don't even fucking think about it, memes.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, you guys crushed it. It was fun.
Yeah, Jake, you did a good job too. Jake was on top of everything.

Speaker 1 Jake was a saver on the Madden because the Madden was lagging and he came in and announced it. It was good.
And

Speaker 1 yeah, it was a good time. We have another one coming up with the pancakes.
So that will be, it won't be 24 hours, but it probably will be 8 to 10, considering. It'll be a while.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to see 24 pancakes.

Speaker 10 That's actually huge that Hank's going to win it because Hank eats so slow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he can just mock us now. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Pancake would be probably longer than 24.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Well, no, because it's one hour off every time you finish a pancake.
Oh, right, right. Right.
So. I think you'd probably eat like four pancakes.
You're not a big eater. Oh, I got it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's like, it will most likely, whoever loses has to eat 24 pancakes, or it doesn't have to eat 24 pancakes. They have to do 24 hours or pancakes.

Speaker 1 So realistically, it will probably be like an eight-hour stream because you probably can't eat more than like 16 pancakes.

Speaker 4 I did take when I was doing the phone calls. I took my picks because it means like when we need your picks, I was on the phone.
I was like, give me an over, give me a spread.

Speaker 4 So my picks are just from some random dude that was calling. And I've already accepted the loss, and I started to practice my set.

Speaker 4 And that's, I think the 24-hour stream is going to pale in comparison to how bad.

Speaker 1 Oh, I liked your stand-up. Your stand-up was good.
That's going to be tough. The thing you did about Dave and how he takes more than one bite, that was good.
What's the deal with that?

Speaker 1 What is the deal? No one ever talks about that. It's called one bite.

Speaker 1 That's going to be PFT's tat. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. You got tat.
I got tats.

Speaker 1 I'm kind of

Speaker 1 addicted to tats now. I'm a tat guy.

Speaker 1 You can't can't get just one. I'm probably going to get several more on this.

Speaker 1 I switched it up

Speaker 1 at the last second. I went left arm instead of right arm.
It was like spur of the moment. And then I'm just like right arm.
I can do the swaggy pee, right arm strictly for buckets. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also Mitch, the tat guy, so he comes in the studio after we're done, and he wants to like check out the studio, take some pictures. He was an awesome dude.
Check him out. Mitch does tats.

Speaker 1 And I was like, hey, you want to pick a lotta ball? He's like, sure. He's wearing a Brian Branch jersey, number 32 on the lines.
He's like, I'll take 32. Jake was in here as a witness.

Speaker 1 Jake ran the machine. He looked away.
Mitch got 32. Incredible.
And so then we're like, well, I'm going to bet on Mitch's score touchdown tonight. It's inside.
Incredible. And Mitch scored.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then didn't win. Then didn't win.
Didn't throw a pick six, though. Didn't throw a pick six.
Never throwing a pick six. Okay.
So let's do it. Let's finish the show.
Good job, Max and Hank.

Speaker 1 Proud of you boys.

Speaker 1 Numbers. 8.

Speaker 4 39. 18.
71. Also from some random teleblue purchaser.

Speaker 1 39. 39.
39.

Speaker 1 What's yours, Max? 20.

Speaker 1 What did you say, Max? 20. Okay.

Speaker 1 Shane 10. 77.
Pug. Pug.
Pug.

Speaker 1 I am Pug.

Speaker 1 The Pug chance was so good. I have 71.

Speaker 1 78. Oh,

Speaker 1 God.

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