NFL Week 13, Niners Pump The Eagles, Fastest 2 Minutes, College Football Playoff Set And Florida State Got Screwed

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On today's Pardon My Take, football, week 13. We're going to talk about every game from Sunday.
The Crown Jewel, the Max haters are going to have a great time. Lions back on on track we also are going to do fastest two minutes as always and because it was a crazy weekend in college football championship weekend the playoff is set we will be discussing that and uh how florida state got screwed so great monday show for everyone football football.
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Today is Monday, December 4th, and it's week 13. What? What? Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What Texans took on the Broncos and ran the annexation of Puerto Nico Collins to the tune of 191 yards and a touchdown. Tank Dell saw Brad Pitt's acting in the movie Fury and said, break a leg.
Too soon, boom. The game came down to the last drive as Russell Wilson went back to pass and, Ward, what is it good for stopping Cortland Sutton? Say it again now as the Texans win with a walk-off interception.
Texans 22, Broncos 17. What? What? Over to Ryle John, Maryland, where it was a disturbing performance from the commanders as Tyreek got down with the quickness and the quarterback said, Sam, can I buy a vowel and try to solve a puzzle? Is it I owe you a new head coach? Andrew Van Pinkle was a light-colored streak through the red zone as he scored on a first-half pick six, and Riverboat Ron looks like he's about to be out to sea.
The Dolphins 45, the Commanders 15. In Pittsburgh where the Arizona Cardinals got murried as Jonathan Gannon said to his quarterback and tight end, you now may kiss McBride.
LeBron James told us not to use the word bitch this weekend but he never said anything about Mitch as Trubisky came in relief for Pickett after multiple rain delays. The Steelers trying to rally late, but James Conor McGregor knocked them out leaving the Steelers looking like a dead mascot clinging on to its former glory.
Speaking of Conor McGregor, buy your proper number 12 Irish whiskey today. Cardinals 24, Steelers 10.
Over to the music city where Gardner many men, many, many, many, many men, many men, wish death upon me. Minshew might be the second-string quarterback, but that equals 50 cent, and it was popping them fangs in overtime against the Titans.
Ryan Bonehouse suffered a brothel injury as back-to-back punts were blocked, changing the course of the game. Michael Cera Pittman gave a super bad ending for Titans fans in overtime as the Colts walked off with a touchdown.
Colts, 31. The Titans, 28.
We now get to our program of games that were absolutely horrible to watch and no one ever wants a recap for. First up, Falcons-Jets with our correspondent memes in Meadowlands.
We head up to MetLife where Arthur A. Smith told the Jets, stay off the touchdowns.
My J. Cole Pruitt was yelling, get off my dick, after scoring the only touchdown of the afternoon.
Robert Murtaugh Salah turned to Xavier Mel Gibson and said, I'm getting too old for this shit. Simeon, Rodgers died for our Simeons.

Beep, boop, bop.

You are dead.

Simeon.

Falcons 13, Jets 8.

That one was terrible, but we got an even worse game. We're going up to Foxborough with Henry Lockwood for the Chargers and the Patriots.

Over to Gillette, where a shootout took place the likes of which New Englanders haven't seen since the American Revolution. Bryce Hall Berenger said he's not a fighter.
He was never a fighter after putting up his best shot at total punting yards in the game, but ultimately coming up short to J.K. Rowling Scott, who lit up the scoreboard with the Lumos spell for a total of 367 yards punting on the day.
Speaking of J.K. Riling Cameron Dicker identified as he slash him

After knocking Spell for a total of 367 yards punting on the day. Speaking of J.K.
Riling, Cameron Dicker identified as he slash him after knocking in two field goals, including the game winner, New England 0, the San Diego Superchargers 6. We go out west where the New York Jet hasn't landed quite yet as Joe Sacco got canceled late.
The Rams ran the Aeropostale raid offense with their puka necklaces as Cooper Cup-a-Noodles chipped in, having the sidelines cheer like raw men. John Johnson, whose name literally translates to glory hole, stuck his head through the wall and sucked away a deep ball, and Browns lose as L.A.
takes down Cleveland. 36-19, we now go over to the city of brotherly love with our chief Eagles correspondent, our Birdman, Max.
We head over to Philadelphia, where the 49ers won the Super Bowl in Week 13. Big Dom Toretto DeSandro took it personally when Dre Greenlaw tried to threaten the family, but the birds were unable to fight for his honor.
A.J. Soprano Brown returned to his dominant self, but was left looking at his final stat line saying, so what, no fucking TD now? One, two, three, Bo Samuels backed up his shit talk by scoring a trio of touchdowns

against the Trash Village secondary and ultimately smushed the birds.

Two-seed 49ers, 42.

One-seed Eagles, 19.

Boom.

Boom, you develop a little bit of an Italian accent over there, Boom.

I mean, it was kind of an Italian show there.

That was a little biased there, you Boom.

A little biased.

Oh, no, I've just reported the fact standing on a corner jamis winson down in nola such a fine sight to see it's jerry guff my lord throwing sam laporte the lions looking good nine and three put in the seat cap. They're biting kneecaps.
And just like always, this song ends our recap. The Lions go marching 33-28.
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Okay, week 13 in the books.

We're watching right now Packers, Chiefs, which we will talk about at the end.

And it's bullshit right now because Jordan Love just keeps throwing balls up and they somehow get completed uh i also want to say that i love the new wrinkle that we do where whenever uh someone in this room has a bad loss they have to write a boomer about it because max memes hank great job yeah great job all around max i laughed out loud at at some of your sopropranos stuff. Yeah.
Yeah. What? No fucking TD? You know, there was one moment today in the Eagles game where Max actually got mad at AJ, and he goes, fucking AJ? Yeah.
And he sounded like Tony Sopranos. Sounded exactly like him.
It was awesome. And he didn't even realize it.
That's what made me think of it. Yeah.
So, all right. We're going to talk about every game.
We're also going to talk college football this week on Monday's show because a lot went on. So it deserves some time.
But let's start. Let's dive right in to Sunday, which we'll just be honest.
There wasn't like a ton of great football being played. There were a couple of good games.
The Texans-Broncos game was pretty good at the end. The Saints tried to make it a good game against the Lions was the first game I listed those are the two first games I had Lions 33 Saints 28 uh first game listed uh the Lions jumped out to a 21 nothing lead in like six and a half minutes the Saints I I I got very frustrated we actually were watching the game and I was like get Saints off the main TV.
I can't watch them anymore with sound because they're so frustrating to watch. But the Lions defense will keep any team in the game, and it looked for a second there like they were going to blow the perfect start to a game, but they hold on.
They're 9-3. They are – I think they – I can never do the math.
It's not as simple as as it feels like it's not as simple as uh baseball even though it's the exact same math magic number yeah they're like i think their magic number might be five well the lions have now officially won the nfc south yes beat every team in the nfc south yes but they are they are on the precipice at nine and three in the second place teams being six-6 in the Vikings and possibly 6-6 in the Packers.

So they are on the precipice of having their first home playoff game since 1993.

The tricky part is that they still have two games left against the Vikings.

Yes.

So we have to watch out for that.

But, yeah, the Lions, it felt like the game was over after, like,

six minutes into the game.

I've changed my mind.

So as we're not Saints fans, so it's very easy for us to say just put jamis winston in the game all the time because he's more entertaining for us to watch as somebody that doesn't have a dog in the fight if i was a saints fan i would still want derrick carr out but they should just let that offense run through tasem hill all the time yeah there's nobody like him in the nfl he seems to be effective at moving the chains the offense is something that like you can't really prepare for that well it's like facing the triple option if you're in college if you have a Taysom Hill game like you haven't played an offense like that all season and Taysom Hill is good enough at being a quarterback and good enough running with the football where I feel like he would be a much better starter than Derek Carr and I also think that that Taysom Hill, there's a human element to Taysom Hill

that a defense probably would just get so sick of guarding him

because it's either a pass, he's okay as a passer,

but when he runs, he's just going to try to run everyone over.

And at some point, it feels like Taysom Hill never runs out of energy.

But yeah, I agree.

The Saints just have to admit that they suck

and they have to start blowing everything up

because the Saints have been doing this for, it started at the end of the breeze era, and it's been going on ever since, where they just continually kick the can down the road. The Saints are 70, next year they're going to be $71 million over the cap.
I don't even know how that's possible. The Saints are always in cap hell.
They've been in cap hell for the last six years. Well, why wouldn't they just start trading people? I don't know, the cap doesn't exist.
Start reset everything i don't know like if you're a saints fan you have to want a fresh restart because they've been holding on for what feels like a decade now to a lot of the same pieces and yeah they got robbed in the nfc championship game when you know the rams and the pass interference and everything there were moments where they were close but at this point it feels like the party it's like this party's been going on for way too long and everyone's looking around being like hey should we just go home like this is we got to end this I feel like the Saints are the the perfect embodiment of a team with a roster that was awesome four years ago and it still has names that you think like oh shit this is pretty good and then guys are the time. And like Michael Thomas is out again.
And Rashid Shahid, who I love, was out today. And that actually brings me to my other point.
It's like the Lions defense, they'll keep everyone in the game. Because we joked about it on Friday how Dennis Allen says this is an explosive offense the Saints have.
He was right today. Chris Alave was incredible, and they only had really Chris Alave.
Jimmy Graham

scored a touchdown. Jimmy Graham, everyone

in the room was like, Jimmy Graham, he scored

a touchdown. So, the Lions,

I don't know what they're going to be able to do

in terms of figuring out what to do on defense

because every game is just going to be a

heart attack for them where it doesn't matter

what lead they have, everyone's

still in this game. Yeah, they're just hoping to outscore

everybody, and if you're a Lions fan, or at least I do, I want to see Jamison Williams get the ball in space way more often I feel like he's always open run it streaking down the field they'll throw like one deep shot to him per game they gave him the ball on it was either reverse end around something like that at the end of the game they kind of iced it and got him in open space he is so fucking fast yeah get him the ball in space and then I think you'll be able to outscore almost everybody but yeah the defense the defense is an issue uh hudgson had that one hit on derrick carr which i think it i think we might have like a competitor to drew breeze's 16 cracked ribs that he had that one season yeah it was bad um it was it was a nasty hit that derrick carr took and then when tasem came in the game you're right i think he i think he delivered. He tackles guys as they're trying to tackle him.
He's like, if you're going to take me out, I'm going to take you out first and wrap you up and take you to the ground as I go down myself. He treats a football game like who will tap first.
It doesn't really matter about yards and production. It's like, I'm just going to try to physically beat up everyone on the defense and when there's no one left, then we yeah he's going to try to run into your face if you're a linebacker and then the next time you try to tackle him maybe you'll be like one step slower because you don't want to get hit in your face right so he gets an extra two yards off that so i actually think that the the saints if they want to win and you still have a chance to win the nfc south crazy which is crazy you're not a very good team but that division's garbage so you have a chance to win.
If you want to win, just do all Taysom all the time. Put Jamison occasionally.
I like him as a change of pace guy. You need a punt.
They should want to lose. If you're a Saints fan, and maybe I'm way off, Saints fans can tell me I'm stupid for this, but if I were a Saints fan, I would want to lose because I would want for there to be...
like, the worst thing that can happen to the Saints is they somehow get into

the playoffs as the NFC South

representative, lose a game,

and then they can tell themselves, oh, we were

pretty close. We were a playoff team.

Like, you just got to

hit reset on everything. Everything.

Just a reminder, Dennis Allen as a head coach,

his record is now 20-45.

He's so bad. The other big story from

this game was the chain gang guy who probably had the worst injury of any chain gang operator of all time. Seeing cool hand Luke.
Yeah, cool hand Luke. Shaking it over here, boss.
He, it was crazy. He got carted off.
They stopped the game. He got carted off.
That's how bad he broke his leg on the sideline. And they showed it and he was screaming.
I feel bad. I shouldn't laugh.
I'm not laughing. But I am also laughing because it's just got to suck to be like wearing the, you know, the visor, the bib, and then getting carted off and having an NFL game stop because you have to get carted off.
Yeah. Anytime you get severely injured in a bib, it's not a very good look.
And he didn't have that human reaction that most people have where your body goes into shock for a second yeah he was immediately in pain and it was just his leg they had that one shot where his leg was just dangling and you're like oh my god one thing that i love is when players if they run over a cameraman or a chain gang guy or anybody on the sidelines if they stick around they help them up they give them like a little hug yeah you should you should not be penalized they should continuously reset the play clock to give a player enough time to like pick a guy off the ground and make sure he's okay

and like you know just get him back in the zone tell him a little joke learn a fact about his

family yeah something because it's i understand why kamara had to like run out of there after he

saw that the guy was injured he's got to get back on the field for the next play um but just from a

human element side roger goodell i know you're a long-time listener big time awl um just reset the reset the play clock let the guys take care of the people on the sidelines when they run them over getting injured in a bib that's just a bad like there's things you just don't want to be you don't want to get injured naked you don't want to get injured in a bib pretty much a baby if you get injured in a bib yeah it's just like because you know that he had to go off. He gets carted off.
Then they're in the tunnel. And he's probably writhing in pain.
And they're looking at him. And they're like, hey, man, we're going to need this bib.
Do you get access? We're going to need someone else to be on the chain gang. So we're going to have to take this bib from you.
Do they have a backup, an emergency chain gang guy? I'm sure they do. Third string guy.
Do you get access to the team's healthcare professionals and their facilities if you get hurt on the chain gang? Yeah. If I were on the chain gang and I got rolled up like that guy and I was just sadly crying in my bib in the tunnel, I'd be like, can you at least give me some Toradol? Yeah.
Just at least give me some Toradol. Let me feel fine for a minute.
I'd be like, shoot it up and send me back out there. Yeah.
Give me a prescription, Doc. I had one last thing.
Sam Laporta is awesome and a fun stat. Sam Laporta had 140 yards on Sunday.
So he got very close to Iowa's entire yards output on Saturday. They had 155 yards against Michigan.
Sam Laporta had 140 yards. And I just know we're going to talk college football and the playoffs and everything, but I have a fun stat from you from the Iowa season, which I've professed my love for Iowa because they piss everyone off so much.
But Iowa, do you know that Iowa had over 1,000 yards more punting than offense this year? They had 3,052 yards offense, 4,119 punting yards. They were 133 out of 133 on offense.
They were first out of 133 on punting. That's awesome.
So Jay Kuda had that set. It's beautiful.
But Sam LaPorter, I don't know how Iowa has the best tight ends and these awesome offensive players, and then they just don't play offense on Saturday. Yeah, so you've got Hawkinson in the league.
You've got Kittle. Kittle.
You have Laporta. You have Noah Fant, right? Yeah.
You've got some pretty good tight ends. It's crazy.
In the NFL. And they all dominate.
And in college block they're like they're primarily like no fan caught a lot of passes but they're primarily blocking tight ends in college and they get to the nfl you're like oh shit you can do that too they i will right now as bad as their offense was 133 out of 133 i don't know exactly as a fax people say i may be stupid but i bet you somewhere on their roster right now is a pro bowl tight end yeah or maybe even a wide receiver like it's gonna end up being we're gonna see this guy in three years we're like wait he was on that team my favorite part about iowa this year is that their uh their punt returner is by far the most dynamic player that they have yeah and he's out yeah and they they don't use him on offense well he got injured but i'm saying like during during the season he's electric with the ball in his defense and they refuse to give him the ball on offense actually

uh if you are going through iowa football withdrawals fear not because thursday night

we've got the steelers and the patriots seriously and it's going to be a backup maybe even a backup

backup quarterback for the steelers if you're drunk enough they're going to look like iowa

football so tune into that that will be great but yeah lions uh i think all lions

Thank you. backup quarterback for the Steelers.
If you're drunk enough, they're going to look like Iowa football. So tune into that.
That will be great. But, yeah, Lions, I think all Lions fans are just going to be like, hey, we're riding the roller coaster here.
We're 9-3. They're a very good team, but their defense every Sunday is like, who knows? Who knows what will happen? I mean, Bruce Irvin, still in the league.
Yeah. Did not know that until today.
I think he just signed with the Lions. But I think he's been, I think he's been like one and done.
And by one and done, I mean like one game and then he gets injured for the last like four seasons in a row. Yeah.
Bruce Irvin, first round draft pick, same draft class as Russell Wilson in Seattle. Still in the league.
Still making plays. Yeah.
So Lions, keep just having fun games. Addison Ostranga is the current Iowa tight end.
He's next up.

He's next up? Okay.

Based on what?

29 catches, two touchdowns.

Okay.

That might be too many catches.

That's what we're saying.

Over 12, 11 games?

No, I'm saying usually the tight ends have become incredible.

It's a freshman right now who's just blocking.

He's a sophomore.

And he'll just be the best.

Give me his – what are his measurables there, Jake?

Addison Ostranga is 6'4", 255 from sun prairie wisconsin yeah okay i kind of like him i kind of like that guy be a pro bowler he's checking all the boxes yeah right now pro bowler uh all right what would have hayden large got into the league and was just like the most athletic person ever it will happen yeah yeah uh all right next up texans 22 bron 17. I have a question for my friend Henry Lockwood.

Yes.

Hank, do you now believe in turnover luck?

Yes.

Literally what I said on Friday was going to happen, happened.

Turnover luck.

The Broncos turned the ball over.

They threw three interceptions.

The Texans fumbled the ball.

There was a botched snap and there was another fumble that they fell on and didn't turn the ball over at all uh i'm gonna i'm gonna push back on you here big cat i i think that the texans might be the best team at recovering fumbles well i the texans take care of the ball like i was saying that on friday like they they don't turn the ball over a ton and the turnover luck for the like the broncos having just every ball bounce their way was gonna was gonna at some point stop and it stopped in this game and it also happened to be a game where Russell Wilson threw three interceptions yeah the Texans made great plays on those fumbles so the offensive line were just hitting the ground diving all over the place there's so many small things that the Texans do really well that end up making them win these close games because they are the king of close games yeah in the nfl right now and cj stroud you just know when he's dropping back and he gets his body like relaxes you can see his shoulders just like lose all the tension he's about to make a sick throw somebody's open he's about to do it yeah the game like you said last week the game moves so slow for him whatever his processing speed is whoever leaked the information about C.J. Stroud not being pass that s2 cognition test genius test ever genius smoke screen because that guy processes things so quickly and and and it actually the broncos did get a little bit of turnover luck in this game that kept him in the game because it could have been even a like uh the texans couldn't have it could have been a game that didn't have to come down to the last play of the game with Russell Wilson throwing an interception in the end zone.
That strip that they called – they whistled the running back forward progress was the dumbest whistle ever. Yeah.
Like, I think we've gotten better in football that they let them play the play out and then they'll go review it. That was like an old school, like 10 years ago, where they just whistled the minute there's contact because that was as clear as a fumble could be and the running back was trying to make a move he's trying to shed the tackle there was another play too with CJ Stroud where he got tackled he got sacked and the the second the Broncos linebacker put his finger on him the ref blew the whistle CJ Stroud kept backpedaling away from the sack probably should had another six yards on it, but they said he was in the grasp as soon as contact.
Big forward progress crew. Huge forward progress.
Big forward progress crew. But, yeah, this was more – so C.J.
Stroud's been the story this year for the Texans in the league. I thought this game was more about the Texans' young defense showing up because Derek Stingley was incredible.
He had two interceptions. The second one was awesome.
And then Will Anderson had two sacks and a bunch of pressures, and it was like this Texans' defense has now come along to a point where they can play on both sides of the ball, and they're just a good team. Yeah, you were correct about your take going into this game with the fumble lock, turnover lock.
I was just a little bit early on the tank del being out. Yeah, I know.
Do you feel like you just don't? I feel terrible about that. So what happened was, and I apologize to the listeners, we try not to get things right on this podcast, but I realize that when you say something like, this player's out, you should probably get that one right.
That's fine. I believed you.
Tank Dell. I went and checked my lineup, and I was like, oh, no, he's fine.
I got so many people from the fantasy football community being like, what's your source on Tank Dell? I haven't heard this. My source was I read a practice injury report where Tank Dell was out with a calf injury.
I thought that meant that he was out for the game. It just said Tank Dell out.
I didn't dig any further. That's on me.
I should have dug one level further. Well, now he's out for the season.
Now he's out for the season. I did feel bad.
i put a bet in of him to score a touchdown and if he had scored i was going to give it to somebody who had uh been negatively adversely affected by my erroneous tank dell reporting but unfortunately he got hurt which sucks because he's awesome and the texans offense is way better with him in it uh but that didn't really stop cj today that's one of my favorite parts about this podcast because we get so many things wrong, but if you are like a Texans fan or own Tank Dell and Fantasy, you like stop and you're like, wait, they're wrong. It's like, dude, if you knew what we were, if you were following every team as closely as you're following the Texans or Tank Dell, you'd realize we get everything wrong.
Yeah, it's a lot of stuff. It's just that this happened to affect you personally, and you're like, that's wrong.
wrong i was just a little early on the news i feel bad for him because it's a fibula and i don't know depending on how bad a fibula is maybe he could be back if they make a run in the playoffs but it did say out for the season already so yeah it's the non-weight bearing bone i've had that one okay it's not great um they have new nico collins though yeah He's really good. do you have 190 yards 191 yards nine catches and it did feel it felt like the broncos kind of just ran out of the luck that they've been running on they're there i still think the broncos could potentially get into the playoffs but everything had been bouncing right for them and then you had russ i think two out of the three interceptions were bad um And you had Russ kind of like fall back to earth a little bit, and now they are back into a – I mean, probably have to win every game.
I mean, I don't know what the seventh seed is going to be in the AFC. What do you think, 10 wins or 11? I think 10 wins is the number.
10, so they're going to have to win four out of five down the stretch. Yeah, they're going to have to pass the Colts.
Yeah, and we'll get to the Steelers, but we have it coming up in a minute. But the Steelers, like we should, as much as it's an injustice for Florida State, we should do a committee for the playoffs because I don't want to see the Steelers play the playoffs.
I don't want to see them in the playoffs. Well, the starting quarterback just got injured.
Yeah, so we can say they're a different team. Different team.
I don't want to see in the playoffs yeah like there should be a there should maybe be a fan vote for the seventh seat if there's i would i would actually not be opposed to a fan vote for the seventh seat like the biggest market well no probably if it was no because if it like they have to be like all right so they have to be 500 or above if it was media market it would be the chargers the chargers would still but there fans. Yeah.
Like, I'd rather see the Bills than the Steelers. Would anyone rather see the Steelers than the Bills in the playoffs? If we're going on who the best teams are, I really do think that it would be fun just for one season to have it come down to a college football type.
Yeah. Like, the Texans should be in the playoffs.
The Texans would be fun to watch in the playoffs. Right now, close your eyes.
Bills, Steelers, neutral field.

Who wins that game?

Do you want to see the Chiefs or the Ravens play the Steelers,

or do you want to see them play the Bills?

Well, the Bills have some really good losses on the schedule.

Great quality losses.

A great loss against the Eagles.

The loss overseas, you can excuse that.

It was a travel loss. So we'll close our eyes, pretend that one didn't happen.
Yeah, the Bills should be a two seed. Yeah, and people are going to be mad at us for saying this.
But I'll throw in Texans as well. The Texans I would like to see in the playoffs.
They are a very fun team to watch. All their games are a fun watch.
So, yeah, the playoff chances, we said it on Friday, but the percentages swing wildly after this game.

The Texans now have a decent shot to make the playoffs.

The Broncos have to jump a bunch of teams.

Yeah.

So right now as it stands, you've got the Colts at the seventh seed, Cleveland sixth.

I'm fine with the Colts.

They're fun.

Pittsburgh fifth seed.

Yeah.

Actually, either the Colts or the Browns.

I'm fine with either one of those teams.

Yeah.

It's just the Steelers.

I know Steelers fans.

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I don't think Steelers should

I don't think sealers should be that upset no they're kind of just like they understand we're also sick of watching this team play football they understand when when tj went down that looked like that was that's the last thing they have to root for yeah um all right speaking of the colts colts 31 tit Titans 28. The Colts survive by the special teams wizardry.
I don't know who their special teams coach is, but he drew up. I don't know if this was more the Titans not understanding how to block enough guys, but they did have like a – it was basically the guy running free to block back-to-back punts.
One was so blocked that it was actually not a block punt. It was a fumble because he got there before he could even punt it.
And they took out the punter for the Titans, Stonehouse. Stonehouse, he's a beast.
Which, again, bib injury really bad. I actually think punter injury is just as sad because when a punter gets injured, they don't really put a bunch of medical support around him.
No, because the play keeps going on. Right.
And the punter, I think he was going through shock because he was just laying completely motionless like he was dead on the field. And then the play goes on around you and there's people like much larger people than you jumping over your body.
Right. Trying to get to the ball.
And they don't put like, like i would just imagine if a punter gets hurt they're not having like the head team doctor look after him they're like hey we'll just have an intern just you know bring you into the locker room and we'll figure this out later every team has a vet that they send out there and that's for the special teams it's for kickers punters to a lesser extent holders not the real doctor i can't think of anything mike vrabel wants to do less with his week than trying to find like a fill-in punter yeah like that's the last thing that frames they both did a good job he did okay yeah but you know that vrabel is going to sit down his desk and be like fuck i have to like find a backup punter now to join our team how do i even i don't i don't want to do that who cares yeah and ryan tannahill came in and not the best hold on the extra point that could have won them the game if they had gotten that because they went into overtime yeah then he redeemed himself with the with the field goal and then gardner minshu i he just he's just he he's hit i think his ceiling of gardner minshu i think he's at peak gardner minshu right now they're seven and five no one has more fun thaninchu when they win, which I love. After the game, he was so pumped up in the locker room.
People seemed to be excited for him. Again, they're a really well-coached team.
Shane Sykin is coach of the year. That touchdown play, the Michael Pittman touchdown, where they ran a fake rub route, was so perfectly.
We're watching every game, so I don't know exactly every single play, but I'd have to imagine they had run that rubber out a bunch of times and then to save the fake for that exact moment was ran to perfection. My two votes right now are going to, I think I'm going to give them to Steichen and then D'Amico Ryans.
I'm going to give mine to Steichen and Nick Saban. Okay, smart.
Coach of the year. Well, Belichick too because he's doing a great job of tanking great job really good job of saying incredible job of tanking um derrick henry is still good yeah he got jacked up a little bit but he still had 100 yards ran too high yeah um the titans are you know colts are five and one on the road which is pretty incredible and one of those wins is a road Germany, too.
And they won a game. Remember, they won a game in Baltimore.
They won a game in Baltimore. People forget that they beat the Ravens.
They beat the Ravens in overtime. The Colts are...
I'm still shocked that the Colts are the seventh seed right now. Like, no one expected this from this Colts team.
Yeah. Especially after Anthony Richardson went down.
Yeah. If they make the playoffs, I'm going to get an El Camino for Gardner- gardner mitchell it's what he would want how many years do you think it's going to take for the titans to play on uh turf before i get like used to it i'm still not used to it do the titans playing on turf yeah um probably forever i just expect them to have that like that grass that then in late in the season it gets really weird colored i think they had it grass last grass last year.
Pretty sure. Yeah, when did they change? I think it was this year.
But every time they show a Titans game, I'm like, what is this? What are we watching? It would get gray. Yeah.
It would get really gray. I think they had it.
Remember, was it Josh Dobbs versus the Cowboys? They covered the spread last year on a Thursday night game. Maybe it was the game that they showed Taylor Luan in a wheelchair.
Oh, yeah. a good one yeah that was a really good one um yeah there's certain teams that I can't ever imagine playing on turf like the Bears yeah no I can never imagine the Bears the Commanders Commanders can't ever they should always have just shitty shitty stadiums right that the Titans were a brothers in arms with like a shitty field who's next up who's got the worst field besides besides me and you the commanders no we said

the commanders. We said the commanders.
Commanders and the Bears have an awful field. Because of bad teams and bad facilities.
Yeah, we know. Bad teams, bad facilities, bad records, bad coaches.
Who's got the worst? We got a lot of bad teams. The Browns could be up there.
Jets. No, but the Jets have fake turf.
We're talking about the real turf teams that are going to because like the Titans were one of the last passions of like this is grass. It's going to really suck in December, but it doesn't matter because Derek Henry will run it down your throat and then they made the switch and I'm not used to the switch.
Heinz Field. Heinz Field.
Oh, if the Steelers played on fake grass, that would bother me. I would quit football.

That would bother me a lot. The Steelers should

actually go back to Three Rivers

and play on the pavement. Astro

turf. Yeah.
I saw a

picture of Barry Sanders running the football

this weekend, and he was wearing just

basketball shoes. Sneakers, yeah.

People used to wear basketball shoes, basically,

during NFL games. Yeah, it was awesome.

Okay, so yeah, we've lost a lot of grass recently. We're losing grass at a rapid pace.
It's all this synthetic K2 shit. It'd be weird if Lambeau ever went to it.
That would be very bizarre. That'd be really strange, yeah.
But they somehow keep grass. I think they put a tarp on it all the time.
They got the oils underneath. They don't have concerts there.
They probably do have concerts, but it's not like massive events like in Chicago or in D.C. Yeah.
They definitely do. They have all the season ticket holders.
That's a lot of weight. Let's see.
Where else would you have a big concert in Wisconsin? Well, Lambo has... Oh, you could could have it in Milwaukee.
Or Madison. Lambeau has, like, how many people live in Green Bay? I think it's not more than, like...
Like 100,000? Yeah. It's not a lot.
So, I doubt they have a ton of concerts up there. You think Taylor Swift's going to stick around after this game and play a couple tunes? Mmm.
Maybe. Nice.
For the people? It was funny how they had. 320,000.

Oh, that's a lot more than I thought.

Metro area.

I don't know if that's suburban Green Bay.

Sorry, Green Bay.

Yeah.

I just slandered you.

You've got.

There's some events.

We're saying, though, your grass looks really good.

Your grass always looks good.

I don't know why the grass can't be good everywhere else.

Okay.

Next up.

Cardinals 24, Steelers 10. The rain delay game.
Two rain delays. This game lasted forever.
This game also was won by the Cardinals when the Steelers at the end of the first half, Kenny Pickett got hurt. They went for it on fourth and one with four minutes left, and then the Cardinals had a 109-yard drive because they actually got actually got a 10 yard penalty so they had to get 109 yards uh that lasted the rest of the half going all the way down the field scoring a touchdown and that was it that was it it was like it's over and then they went into rain delay madness forever you know kenny going down with an injury should really make you appreciate kenny pickett if you're a sealers fan as bad as the offense has looked at sometimes this year with Kenny Pickett playing, they look way better when he's in there versus when Mitch Trubisky's in there.
And they were moving the ball. They were moving the ball a little bit at the beginning of the game.
It felt like they had a couple drives. I know they had a field goal drive, but yeah, that was the game.
And this was such a classic Steelers game for them to lose as a big favorite at home against a bad Cardinals team and Mike Tomlin said afterwards it was just JV football everywhere around yeah yeah Kyler was scampering around back there Kyler gets very confused when he gets to the sidelines about where he should how he should hold the ball out yes when he goes out of bounds I don't know if he knows the rules or not there was one play in particular where he's running off to the sidelines he's about a yard and a half short of a first down and he started to stick the ball out with one hand held it out about a half yard transferred it to the other and then held it backwards about a yard as he went out of bounds he gets confused he gets confused on the sidelines but there was a touchdown pass to rindell moore again and i think I dropped this nugget maybe early last year. That's got to be the shortest combination of passing touchdown in NFL history, right? Yeah.
In terms of total inches from the quarterback. Unless the only thing I could think of, maybe at one point, Darren Sproles might have thrown a touchdown to Danny Woodhead.
I don't know if they... Doug Flutie.
They might not have overlapped at all in L.A. or in San Diego at the time.
Doug Flutie to someone maybe? Doug Flutie maybe – who is the – Don Beebe. Did Doug Flutie ever throw in a dump? Probably not.
I don't think they overlapped either. But that's got to be the shortest.
Yeah. Rondell Moore is what, 5'7", 5'6 1⁄2"? Yeah.
5'10 1⁄88", and 5'7". 5'7", yeah.
That's not true for Kyler. That's not true.
That's what Adam Harstad reported. Kyler got heel implants, and he turned his back on the 5'9 crew before the combine.
Never forgive him for that. The Cardinals kind of fucked up their draft pick, though.
I guess they got to keep playing, though, because they don't need a new quarterback if Kyler's going to be good. But yeah, they're now inching closer to the four-win team, which is there's a slog there from the fourth pick to the eighth pick is all four-win teams.
Now they have three wins. That's a good word for it.
A slog. It is a slog.
It is a slog of four and nine, four and eight teams. That third pick is going to be very valuable too yeah very valuable so they got to hold on to it but i guess they also i mean it's a new coach kyler's he's having fun out there trey mcbride is really good we saw obviously zach urs has gone that's why because trey mcbride is very good and the cardinals i think the cardinals are in that frisky territory where they're not going to.
They're not quitting on the year. Yeah.
So, and the Steelers, yeah. I just don't want to see them play in the playoffs.
Or Thursday. Or Thursday.
Especially not Thursday. That's going to test everything we've got.
I'm going to do it. I'm going to sack up.
I'll be the first person to say it. I'm going to watch fucking Thursday Night Football.
Yeah. And there's nothing you can do about it.

I'll probably be asleep.

No, we got to do the show, Hank.

Well, luckily we'll have other content.

Well, no, but we're going to do the...

Hank, you got to do the show after you do your 24-hour stream.

Got it.

Yeah, that's part of the deal.

Did you not think we were going to do the show?

After the game.

We'll do most of the show while you're in the box with Max,

but after the game, we're going to do the beginning of the show. And then I'll edit.
Yeah, during the game, I'll probably be asleep. What? I'm going to be up for 24 hours.
You're not going to watch your Patriots? It's going to put me to sleep. But, Hank, can you – listen, people love to see delirious Hank.
Tired Hank is actually my favorite Hank. I'm doing 24 hours straight.
Hank, you're very funny when you don't have any sleep.

Tune in Wednesday and Thursday.

The good news

by the way is I don't

think the Steelers

will make the playoffs, especially if

Kenny's hurt. They have the Patriots, which they

should win, but that, they could

lose. That's anyone's, yeah.

And then they have to play at the Colts,

Bengals at home, and then they finish with at

Seahawks at Ravens.

Yeah, I could see them losing four of those, maybe five. Yeah, it felt like if they didn't win today, then it's – because if they win today and they end up whatever they were going to be, eight and four, now they're seven and five.
This was a must win for Pittsburgh. This was a must win.
But it's probably for the better. It's probably for the better.
We've got to figure some things out in Pittsburgh. I like the Steelers being in the playoffs.
They are obviously like a traditional playoff football team. Just maybe not this iteration of the Steelers because they're a tough watch.
It's kind of like the Saints. You don't really do yourself any favors by making the playoffs this year if you're the Steelers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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Falcons-Jets. Oh boy.
This is when we get to the tough stuff. Falcons-Jets.
It was so perfect that this game started 2-0. The Jets defense started the scoring.
it was so perfect that this game started to nothing the jets defense started the scoring uh it was just two nothing seven two seven five ten five at half just the perfect scoring for this game did you know that the jets have more first quarter safeties this year than they do touchdowns oh i thought that was an interesting stat that is tough the um the jets actually out gained the falcons on offense because this wasn't the falcons uh offense beating the jets it was the falcons defense beating the jets offense which is probably easy to do yeah well they tried they went for a spark which maybe it was the saddest spark of all time yeah i think trevor simeon in the game as far as as far I can remember, when you go to a backup quarterback, going to Simeon is, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel there. But good news, though, for the Jets and memes, this is very good news for you.
We might be all the way back around the circle on the spark because Robert Salah said afterwards about Zach Wilson, he's always in consideration, but to what level, like I said, I'm not there yet. Yeah, so I was not there yet yeah so I was gonna say getting there I was gonna say I think we've reached the point where Zach Wilson is now the spark I'm getting there picture me switching back and forth between Trevor Simeon and Zach Wilson I think Zach Wilson could come in and maybe he's had enough time on the bench maybe he's been humbled maybe he might learned he might have sat on the bench long enough that he's a spark.
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's re he's re engaged his sparkness. I mean, you know what? The flame is back.
The jets might be ready to go into hyperdrive. Yeah.
We might have hyperdrive with, with Zach Wilson memes. What do you think about that? Yeah.
I'd rather him out there than Tim Boyle and Trevor. Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's, it's ugly memes the season's over right yeah season's over again until friday until now we play the texas how does he do uh still still hasn't played yeah trevor he was the original spark trevor simeon coming in to be the spark to ignite the offense and having three fumbles was not exactly what you looking for. This game had nine three and outs, two fumbles, an interception, and a safety.
It was so – and three and outs, there was also multiple times when it was like a four and out. Like it was like a get a first down and then punt on the first play.
It was so bad to watch. And the Falcons, I guess, get credit because they are leading the nfc south and you had to win that game you could not lose that game it wasn't pretty at any point desmond ritter is still not the guy but you won the game and you just got out of there and and credit to the jets defense because they have not quit they still are playing really really hard and they got their two points yeah imagine if they had won two nothing so this was if you were to tell me if you look at what was the final score here it was uh 13 to 8 yeah that's that's about i think what most jet fans would have expected and they asked arthur smith about this after the game and now arthur he has a good excuse he said it's hard to win games in december this was a december type win that was i like it this this boy football.
Yeah. If you can win a game 13 to 8, that's a team that you can go

deep into playoffs with. The Falcons defense actually

has been playing well, though. They've gone 24

possessions straight without allowing a touchdown.

So that's pretty impressive. That is, yeah.

Yeah, week 10. So,

memes, it's over.

Rodgers,

let's not do this, right? Yeah,

Rodgers, let's not do this. Okay.

Draft pick? Draft

pick. Get off it.
You have a seventh pick right now yeah and i think i think we're just gonna keep going up and you're in the slog so yeah you could go up are you mad at anybody in particular like i feel like a lot of jets fans are just gonna play the aaron rogers is coming back game what do you want to change though is there anything anything besides just adding Aaron Rodgers to this team that you want to see happen? Like should heads roll because of how the season went? Well, I wish they would have just said they were fucked right out the gate. I was going through my bookmarks and I saw a quote from Colts OC Tom Moore when he was the OC during Peyton Manning.
He said he was asked why the backup QBs weren't getting any reps in practice during the Peyton Manning years. Moore said, if 18 goes down, we're fucked.
Don't practice. Fucked.
Yeah. I wish they would have just said right away, like, we're fucked.
We have no backup plan. Aaron Rodgers is a plan.
Right. Now, going forward, it's just we have to see if this works, and if he is the piece, and we just have to hope everything works out.
Okay, hear me out, though. Wouldn't it be better if you did have a backup plan? Maybe.
With that thinking, yes, with everything that transpired. Yeah.
The actual cruel part of this Jets season is that the best game that Zach Wilson ever played in his career was the spark to give you guys hope that things could be different when he almost beat the Chiefs. You know what? That might be the best loss of the season.
That was what started. Then they beat the Eagles.
They won a couple games. And you're like, oh, shit, the Jets could stick around long enough for Aaron Rodgers to come back.
You know, the Jets might have the most impressive loss and the most impressive win of the season. That win over the Eagles.
Yep. And their loss against the Chiefs.
Yeah, I think you're right. I think that they should be in consideration for a BCS playoff system.
Yes. Yes.
Memes, would you accept? Yeah, I'll accept. Okay, nice.
So the season's back on. Wait, what? Yeah, I'll be back in tomorrow.
Okay. Yeah, Friday, you're just going to be like, listen, win this one, then win the next week, we can jump the Texans, Rogers comes in.
Are Jets fans, have you guys just completely given up or are you still mad during games? I think still mad during games, but everyone has given up. Yeah.
Yeah. That was a really, really tough game to watch.
This is one of those games that the setup of our gambling cave, I like the people who are sitting in the front row can see it all, and then we sit in the back row, and you can kind of have an obscure view of those bottom TVs. And so I was not asking anyone to move out of my way to see more of this game.
No. I was just like okay falcons have the ball okay they punted oh jets have the ball will they punt or they turn it over i mean it's important game for for the falcons because now they are yeah they're in the catbird seed of that division yeah they have a big game i think next week against maybe the panthers who have been eliminated yep officially team eliminated i know they're playing the bucks next week.
That's actually a huge game. They First team eliminated.
Oh no, they'll play the Bucs next

week. That's actually a huge game.
Yeah.

They beat the Bucs and they kind of end the Bucs

season. Yeah, because if the Bucs beat them, I think the

Bucs, I don't know how the tiebreakers work, but they'd

be tied with them. It's a mess.

The NFC South is a fucking mess.

It's... If the Bucs beat

the Falcons, the Bucs, I think, would be tied

is what I'm trying to get at. Yeah.

They'd be 6-7 and

so would the Falcons.

But the Falcons already beat them.

Thank you. The Falcons, the Bucs, I think would be tied is what I'm trying to get at.
Yeah. They'd be six and seven.
Yeah. And so would be the, so would the Falcons.
But the Falcons already beat them once. Okay.
So then backup type. Remember it was the famous Che game where it was like, we're better than the Falcons even though they beat them.
Yep. Yeah.
Okay. So sorry, memes.
It's okay. It really is the saddest thing to go from Tim Boyle to Trevor Sue Man.
Mm-hmm. Let's see if we can get, let's see if this will get people amped up.
Like what's the saddest sentence in American history? We benched Tim Boyle for Trevor Simeon. That's it right there.
That is. I think that is.
Yeah. How to depress an entire region of the country in one sentence.
It was bad. It was real bad.
Okay. I'm just like, man.
All right. Something that was also bad.
Dolphins 45 bad dolphins 45 commanders 15 i got a couple fun stats about this game here big cat okay because i thought it was very interesting okay thanks jake uh so sam how through another pick six today i just want to remind you that the last quarterback to throw a pick six in three consecutive games, Matt Stafford, 2021. Wow.
They won the Super Bowl that year. Thinking Soupy.
So they might be thinking Soupy. No, he's one game short of Matt Schaub's record of four games in the pick six that we all remember from 2013.
Okay. That was – it was not good.
Sam Howell wasn't the biggest problem today. didn't have his best game uh washington right now has given up 13 touchdowns of 30 or more yards this season next closest is atlanta with seven washington has now given up eight touchdown plays of 40 plus yards.
Next close,anta with four washington has now given up 750 plus yard touchdowns this season next closest is the cleveland browns with three that was like all in that colts game yeah um we we suck we suck real real bad tyreek hill just i i'm convinced that in the first first half, Mike McDaniel was trying to get Tyreek Hill the ball on specific plays to break DK Metcalf's speed record that he set on Thursday night. Yes.
That's how bad our offense was. He was designing plays, in my opinion, to try to get him to break a meaningless speed record.
Yes. Two weekends ago, our team was so bad that we got get engaged in a celebration proposal off a sack bad last week we were so bad that the cowboys brought out turkey legs out of the salvation army kettle we're that bad this week we were so bad that uh they engineered like a six-person roller roller coaster tycoon simulator to celebrate on us for a touchdown.
Jesus, that was bad. We're bad.
That celebration lasted so long, we all were like, what are they doing? It took a while for us to figure out what they were doing. It had three acts.
The celebration had three acts. We did lock down Tyreek Hill in the second half, though, after he put up like 140 yards on us in the first half.
are not good the defense stinks it's same old same old Ron Rivera this was his defense to control look no different than Jack Del Rio's defense um we were on a bye week maybe Ron gets fired this week I don't know what else to say the team's bad there's gonna be some big changes made I know that Josh Harris gave an interview Magic Magic Johnson gave an interview talking about how to build a team for a sustainably great future, saying it would be a quick solve to try to get us to competing for a wild card. That would be like a one-season turnaround.
But he wants us to be really good. So I think I'm in trust-the-process mode.
Yeah. I think I'm just going to full-on buy in.
I'm going to suck it up next season's probably gonna stink too uh and then who knows maybe we'll be good after that but right now i'm i'm pretty upset being a commander's fan i have reached the point where i'm just full on tank yeah it was bad it was really bad it was really bad but we thought it was been sacked 58 times for 400 yards lost. I saw some people calling

him White Jameis

because he does have that boom or bust

mentality. I'll tell myself

that if that's going to make me more excited to watch

the team. Some people would rather

him than Josh Allen. Yeah, some people

would. Hey, because you're back okay?

You went double pillow? Yeah, I'm just

trying to sit up more.

Work your posture. Yeah, it was tough.
It was a tough watch. Will you have some stats, Jake? Yeah, mine was going to be the final score of this game was 45-15.
It's never happened before in NFL history. Oh.
I didn't even know it was a score. I didn't.
Oh, that was what it's called? This is, it's every fucking week. Did you take a picture? Yeah.
I missed the picture completely missed it so two things can be true you can be correct that it's happening a lot but i can also enjoy it i've said you can enjoy it but it's crazy it's happening like every week now i didn't it's happening so much i didn't even i didn't even know that it was a score got me until you said that it's so much worse when you get your ass kicked so badly that that score has never happened before yeah yeah i i honestly do think that the the dolphins could have scored 70 points if they wanted to well it was their second win gummy of the year that was very funny jake to do the is that what it's called yeah good job um trying to open up a little bit yeah also fun fact after the game there was hot water in the showers at the next field. However, the fire alarm was going off, so they had to evacuate.
So, yeah, that place sucks. The Dolphins' defense is getting a lot, lot better.
They are for real. They've been off fraud watch for me for at least a couple of weeks.
I know they still have to beat a team that's over 500, they have not done but i don't care i think they're very good yeah and and they are here's a fun one and i know this will never happen because we we learned that it would never happen in 2021 when cooper cup hit the triple crown but why isn't tyree kill in the mvp conversation i think he is he's gonna get 2 000 yards i think he is he should but i don't hear him talked about we should right now we should be talking about him more i i well look what we've done for jayden daniels tyreek hill if there's if any wide receiver gets it it should be tyreek hill how about that yeah yeah there's never been a wide receiver that's one mvp yeah i think you can't you can't have tua in the conversation i think tyreek hill has now reached the where Tua is eliminated. All the fun Dolphins offense stats will now go to Tyreek Hill in terms of the MVP convo.
What are his odds? While you're looking at that, have you guys seen the TikTok trend of this teacher? No, the answer is no. This teacher, Miss Martinez, she teaches her kids class by Tyreek Hill's yards.
It's pretty cool. I saw it how I see every TikTok when it ends up on Twitter.
Yeah, but it's pretty cool that she's teaching kids math based off of this historic season by him. It must be so fun to be a Dolphins fan right now.
So fun. For the first time ever.
So fun. Well, Dan Marino was fun.
My lifetime. Yeah.
Yeah, the Dolphins are really good. Tyree Kill should definitely be in the conversation for MVPvp we're having it we're having it right now i think he is there are people who are having the conversation as we speak tyree kill mvp so tyree kill has 1481 yards 2012 calvin johnson at this point had 1428 yards so he's about uh 50 yards ahead 53 And he gets the extra.
And he gets an extra game. But we're very dumb.
The media is very, very dumb. As dumb as you think me and Big Cat are, all the people that actually vote on these awards are probably dumber.
So if you see a nice number like 2,000, I think you'll get a lot of voters being like, whoa, I've never seen that number next to wide receiver before. Well, and it's also a weird year because there isn't a ton.
There's no like breakaway quarterback. Right.
Like Jalen Hurts probably took a hit today. Dak Prescott is ascending.
You know, it does feel like no one's having one of those statistical anomaly seasons that is running away with it. Brock Purdy.
Brock Purdy. is he getting in the conversation see people have out oh okay no i do think that tyreek hill is actually in it it's a it's a serious conversation yeah um okay chargers six patriots zero yikes i do have one stat hank just like numbers never lie just a statistic you can interpret this however you want um the patriots have now lost three consecutive games where they held their opponent to 10 points or less so i'm saying like their last three games all individually 10 points or less they've lost all three of those.
That's impressive.

That's very hard to do.

I saw some people saying that Bailey Zappi looked like he was in command of the offense a little bit better out there.

They still scored zero points,

but I guess that can also be possible to be better than –

he had a better zero-point performance than any Mac Jones zero-point performance

that I've ever seen.

Yeah, I guess that's something. Sixth game that they've lost, that's a one-score game.
So that's just great tanking. Right there.
Great tanking. Great tanking.
They actually, too, Hank, if the Panthers can somehow win another game, which I don't think they will, but maybe they can, you would actually have the tiebreaker. That's huge.
So if you both end up with two wins, you would have the tiebreaker to be the number one seed. That's exciting.
Can you imagine if Hank tanks so good that he took Caleb Williams away from the Bears? That'd be awesome. I don't want to talk about it.
I'm watching the Packers. They just showed, I think Christian Watson just got hurt kneeling.
I think he kneeled because he got hurt. No, I think he kneeled because he was trying to stop the clock or keep the clock running.
Why was he kneeling? Because he's protesting police brutality. I think he was doing it.
Look, he goes down right here. See? Oh, maybe he did get hurt.
All right. Yeah, he got hurt before.
Yeah, Hank, the Patriots are really bad.

Billy Zappi didn't turn the ball over, though.

Nope.

That's cool.

How do you think about your defense, though?

Because I feel like your defense is good.

Yeah, they're playing hard.

They're doing all they can do.

They're holding teams to less than 10 points.

That's a good defense.

Yeah, that is a good defense. The Chargers are not good, but they did beat you guys.
The Quentin Johnson thing is bad. So they had a graphic, and Shane is a Chargers fan.
He's sitting in the room right now. He knows this.
They had a graphic. Quentin Johnson has 190 yards this year.
There were 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 receivers picked after him, and all 8 have over 400 yards so far this year. I'll list the names.
This is Quinton Johnson. He was a first-round pick.
The receivers picked after him. I know you can do like, oh, hindsight's 20, but this is pretty crazy.
Zay Flowers, Jordan Addison, Jaden Reed, rice tank dell josh downs michael wilson puka nakua all picked after him and all way better than him and he dropped a ball today that was like the easiest pass ever that i if justin herbert justin herbert just walked off the field after it i would have i would have understood it was third and 12 and he hit him for about 15 16 yards and he bobbled it three times and ran out of bounds it's it's it's bad so i mean the chargers are going to clean house i would assume everything yeah this is i think this is maybe the worst win that you can have if you're the chargers because your offense looked terrible well justin herbert didn't the guys just drop balls for him that's all they do do you feel about winning 6-0? No, because it wasn't even like a win to be like,

now we're like two wins away from being in the playoffs.

It was a win to just be marginally closer to not making the playoffs.

You know what this win is?

All this win is ammo for Brandon Staley to be like,

look, my defense, I've turned it around.

Right.

I'm not that bad of a defensive coach.

We held the Patriots to zero points.

I don't know that you can really make that argument with the Patriots. No, I'm saying the stats are going to lump in at the end of the year.
True. And he'll be like, look at, these are the categories that dominate in factoring in that Patriots game.
Don't fall for his tricks. Don't fall for him.
Firebrand and Staley. Firebrand And Tom Telesco.

Yes.

Who picked Quinton Johnson.

Shane's nodding right now.

He's like, yes, please, please, please.

Christian Watson got hurt.

I hate to see it.

I don't root for injuries.

I really don't.

I don't, Max.

Why are you looking at me like that?

That sounded like you were rooting for injuries.

I said, I hate to see it.

I don't root for injuries. What part of that could be seen any other way? You could see it in a different way.
Okay. Afternoon games, Bucks-Panthers, another one that, okay, they played.
Got to be honest, I did not really watch that much of this game. Bryce Young did not look like he was comfortable under the new coaching regime.
They tried, though. They tried hard.
They almost covered, and they tried hard. Yep.
They get credit for both those things. They did those things.
And the Bucs defense is, like, all injuries all the time. Klaja Kansi is a difference maker.
Yeah, Klaja Kansi. He is a difference maker.
Defense rookie of the month. Yep.
Yep. That's a fact.
Yeah, I don't. Both these teams, I don't know what else we could spend time on.
Mike Evans, 1,000 yards. Yeah, Mike Evans is a Hall of Famer.
10th straight year. He's incredible.
He's a Hall of Famer. I was going to say Mike Evans had 1,000 yards for a 10th straight year.
Yeah. That's pretty cool.
That is cool. And the Panthers did try hard.
They had a little bit of a bounce back, the dead coach bounce back. But that's it.
Yeah. I guess you could call it that.
I would like to see more. Covering a spread counts.
I would like to see more feist. I would like to see a feist-ier performance from an interim head coach than that.
He screamed a couple times. But I want an interim coach that looks like he's about to kick the ref's ass yeah um all right let's uh rams browns sean mcveigh is really good at calling plays that was my big thing that i wrote because the browns defense is good and i know that they're banged up but he was he had them going all different ways 400 yards of offense like it was it was kind of like pete you know vintage matt stafford just slinging the ball around crossers everything puka nakua making crazy plays they they just did i mean joe flacco was cool to have back but like the rams sean mcveigh is still such an elite elite coach in the nfl one thing he wasn't good at today was his challenges he missed two challenges i don't know if you have a photograph photographic memory and the first one happened right in front of him.
Can't he just go back and review that himself and be like, oh, I shouldn't challenge this? I don't know how you go 0-2 if you're McVay, but Matt Stafford threw some awesome, awesome balls to Puka Nakua today, who's tough as a motherfucker. Yes, he is.
He got hurt, then he came out, then he went back in, got hurt worse, then he went to the locker room, probably got shot up, came out in the second half, and played awesome again. He's really tough.
I like Puka Nakua. Joe Flacco actually looked good today.
I love watching him throw a spiral. Actually good.
The spiral was sick. He has an elite spiral.
He was hitting dudes downfield. He had a connection with Elijah Moore.
He can play behind this offensive line, too. Yes, he can And so he's not that great at handing the ball off anymore because he's so immobile that it takes him like a quarter of a second too long to run and hand the ball off.
They need to have him like Big Ben at the end, just handing off and shotgun. So he doesn't actually have to take those steps out.
But Flacco was still thrown the fuck out of the football today. And it was fun to watch.
Yeah, it was. It was very fun to watch um he also had a vintage joe flacco where he threw an interception that you're like this could be the coolest pass ever nope there's no brown near him it's just uh arm punt yeah it was that was that felt like it felt like putting on an old like sweater you didn't see the safety coming over yeah it was just nice it was nice to see yeah i i i'm bullish on joe flacco i think he's better.
He's definitely better than DTR or PJ Walker. If you're a Browns fan, you're probably happy.
You come out of this game, you're bummed that you lost. You probably had this one as a win marked down.
You're super pissed about that. But you're also like, I could see Joe Flacco taking this team to the playoffs.
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree.
It's crazy to see him out there. 38 years old.
He looked like a corpse at the end of his last season. But I think it's just all offensive line.
Like he was playing behind a bad offensive line. He looks terrible.
Now he's playing behind a good offensive line. He can still throw the fuck out of the ball.
He throws such an ice spiral. His spiral.
I could just watch him throw his spiral all day. Best spiral ever.
Ever. Okay.
And the Rams. The Rams are ripe to sneak into the playoffs as well because they've strung together some nice wins here.
And it feels like it's going to be them or the Packers. Yeah.
I like the Rams. And I don't think anyone wants to play the Rams because they still.
Matt Stafford is still really good. And Aaron Donald is still really good.
And they have weapons. So they're 6-6.
I told you take the over on 7.5. You got that, yeah.
I told you there might be a playoff. We still haven't gotten it yet, but at 6-6, it looks pretty nice.
They're in the 7th seed for right now because the game hasn't ended. The Packers, I think, will jump them because they have the head-to-head win over them.
And that's the fourth field goal. Love it.
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Okay. Last game until we talk Sunday Night Football.
49ers, 42, Eagles 19. I don't know if that was a fumble or not, but it looks like it might be, and the Packers are going to win.
They're going to let the boys play on that one? They're going to let the boys play and find out if that was a fumble. It looked like it might have been a fumble.
Patrick Mahomes is pointing. He knows.
He knows. Patrick Mahomes has an earpiece or like a cochlear implant that's built in.
Let's watch the end of this game because I don't really want to take away from the Eagles 49ers discussion. Let's not diminish the crown jewel.
There's a crown jewel that we have to talk about. I don't want us to be sitting there being like, hey, the crown jewel happened and we're not even talking about the crown jewel.
His shin might have been down. His ass is down.
His ass is down. His ass is all the way down.
Wait, is his hand underneath his ass ass did you guys hear one of the reps today say like he the butt cheek was down yeah he said that on the mic yeah the hand might have been no i think the ass cheek was down this is bullshit because the packers are going to go to the playoffs they are they have the rest of their schedule is giants bucks panthers vikings bears the packers are going to go the playoffs, and Jordan Love is good, and it's fucking bullshit. It's absolute bullshit.
They shouldn't get away with this. It's absolute bullshit.
Jordan Love's throwing balls that should get intercepted, and they're not getting intercepted, and he looks good, and he looks comfortable. He's doing fucking Rogers shit.
The whole thing is bullshit. Nothing in life is fair.
If you're trying to teach your kids why life isn't fair just show them brett farve to aaron rogers to jordan love it's not fair it's not fair pft well we're too early on the jordan love thing though no i i think he might be good i like he but he looks so much better than he did at the beginning of the season he's come along and it's bullshit i thought it was bullshit how the col Colts had Peyton Manning and then Andrew Luck right afterwards. Yeah, but then he— If you get three in a row.
But he retires. Jordan Love might retire.
It's true. He should retire.
He should retire. Football's a dangerous sport.
Dangerous sport. You shouldn't be doing it, Jordan Love.
For your long-term health and safety, you want to be able to walk your kids. Derek Rose, want to be able to walk my kids to graduation.
Who was very confused about what happens at graduation. Yeah.
I think he was confusing walking your daughter down the aisle. Yeah.
It was also after he didn't play for five years. It didn't go over well.
But either way, this is bullshit. I want to walk my son to Coach Calipari's special tutor that will take the SAT for him in high school.
Man. They're going to go to go to the playoffs pft the only hope i have is that the bears do like a lions last year and like start ripping off wins and then beat them week 18 that'd be nice that would be your super bowl it would oh it would be bigger than my super bowl now i'd rate i would raise a literal banner in the office the bears beat the packers week 18 to keep them out the playoffs, there will be an actual banner made that I will raise and have a banner-raising ceremony.
And I know that sounds so pathetic and so sad, but I do not care. Because it will mean that much to me.
Permission to go off on the NFL real quick? Yeah. They gave us five iterations of the In the Hunt graphic this week.
Oh my god. There was one, the first one they showed today, had the Bears and the Commanders still in the hunt.
14 out of the 16 teams in the NFC were in the hunt. So it was the Panthers and then who else? The Cardinals.
And the Cardinals were left out. Who might be in the hunt? The Cardinals still might be in the hunt.
They're not out of the hunt yet. No.
There should be one graphic because then the rest of the graphics they showed today did not include the Bears nor the Commanders in it. But you gave us that one momentary glimpse of being in the hunt.
It was great. It was great.
It made me feel so much better about my season. Yeah.
And it should not make you feel any better about your season, but it does. In the hunt.
Sniffing around. Lurking.
We don't have the sound on. There's a personal foul on the Chiefs.
I think this fumble doesn't count. So the Chiefs will still have a chance to maybe win this game, which would be very nice.
On the field reversed. But Pacheco got – oh, Pacheco.
He did something bad. Pacheco did something.
He would have been a bad boy, Pacheco. Let's see.
What did he do? He's on the ground. What did he do? He nut shot someone? He nut shot someone.
Oh, yeah. Oh, that was a – oh, then he hit him.
he also did a he he actually did the most dangerous type of nut shot is when you don't do the full punch because the full punch you can like all right here comes a full punch the graze nut shot can actually be way more deadly yes it's the flick yeah the flick hurts where it's like you just kind of – you got to get it just enough.

My son's in a phase now where he's been hitting me in the penis.

It sucks so bad.

I've been hitting the dick like four times in the last two weeks.

It's not sustainable.

Oh, Mahomes going for a P.I. Oh, that was a P.I.

He got a P.I.

All the P.I.

Oh, the Packers get away with everything.

They didn't call a P.I.?

They get away with everything.

What?

This is what I'm talking about.

Here's the thing is for the Chiefs wide receivers, it's hard to say what's a catchable ball because they all stink. But this is what happens.
Yeah, that's MVS. No ball is catchable for him.
This is what happens. Uncatchable.
Oh, my God. That's a bad missed call.
Yeah, he jumped on his back. That's really bad.
This is what happens when the Packers start getting their fucking voodoo going and they start winning games

with bullshit things happening

and Jordan Love's throwing up 50-50 balls

that always get caught and it's bullshit.

It's bullshit and I know there's Packers fans

listening right now who are just smiling ear

to ear and they're loving every second of this

and you're a sicko and a pervert and you should be in jail.

Memes has the ref jump

doing Lambo Leap meme ready.

Yeah, hit it memes. Fucking tweet that shit.
It real it's it's real memes it's real all right my homes this is gonna be a bad play there we might at least get a uh we might at least get a hail mary that'd be cool packers are fucking back people are just being mean to me online it's just like all the what's what's old is new and new is old. I just want to get ahead of the headlines.
It's going to be Taylor Mary, T-A-Y-L, Mary. And it's going to be a picture of Taylor Swift.
Oh, I like that. I'm just going to say.
It's a PFT. 19 seconds here.
You see that in the New York Post tomorrow. This is all rigged.
Taylor Swift was at the game. Oh, really? Yeah.
I don't know if you saw that.

There was the walk that she did in the tunnel, and Jeff Darlington was down.

They put Jeff Darlington on Taylor Watch, waiting for her to come in.

And then I noticed she turned around.

She looked back at Jeff Darlington.

I think Taylor Swift might have a thing to do. Oh.

Yeah.

He's a good-looking guy.

He's taken by the league.

He looks like that guy Danny on Veep. That's going to be a pick.
Maybe she's into journalists. Oh.
Travis Kelsey's in the biz. That's true.
Media. Yeah.
We pay her salary. You should start dating her.
Fine. Be good for the pod.
Fine. Okay, last play.
It's coming down to this. We're doing the rally fingers.
Mahomes, he's telling everyone to huddle up. Oh, no, not last play.
He just wasted a play. He was trying to get a quick out.
So this is the last play. Fourth and ten.
Five seconds left. If there's a God, if there's a justice in the world, this is actually the anniversary of the Rogers Hail Mary against the Lions.
Is there any?

Yeah.

If there's justice in the world, the Chiefs somehow convert this

and score a touchdown and then win the game.

And then we can all go home happy and we can just pretend.

Everything I said just doesn't count.

See, what I would do here is I'd rush two and then put a QB spy on him.

I'd agree.

And then Isaiah Bond in the end zone.

Oh, here comes Mahomes. Oh, he's turning around.
He's going to be dizzy. And threw it up.
Oh, someone almost caught it. Pass interference.
Third play. The Packers are going to the playoffs, PFT.
Okay. Some silver lining.
Swifties are going to be furious at NFL officiating after this game. Swifties.
Yes. Oh, I'm going to tweet that.
Guess what? Swifties, you joined this league. We're glad that you're here.
You're watching this game, rooting for your guy Travis. Travis got fucked tonight probably because Roger Dell is sick of having Taylor Swift steal the spotlight from his league.
I want you to investigate NFL officials. I want you to look into why we don't have full-time officials in this league.
Look, the pass travis kelsey on the hail mary swifties what the fuck they tackled him in the end zone we need your help swift if you're as powerful as you say you are you get it overturned the whole game yeah do it do it for taylor and everybody else that had the chiefs but for taylor okay I mean the Chiefs that was a

that was a bad loss had the Chiefs. But for Taylor.
Okay. I mean, the Chiefs, that was a bad loss for the Chiefs because now the one seed is very much in jeopardy for them.
Jaguars and Ravens. Yeah.
Ravens looking pretty good. That was a huge win by the Ravens tonight.
They might have won the bye week. They might have won the bye week.
And the Packers are going to the playoffs. I have to accept it right now.
I have to just deal what what's going to happen did you know that that Matt LaFleur is now 16 and 0 as the Packers head coach in December that was Rogers insurance love they're they're going to go to the playoffs and they are gonna like they can win a playoff game in a year where they're rebuilding they just are somehow good and they're going to fucking

go to the playoffs. Like if they get the sixth seed, they could beat the Lions.
They just beat the Lions in Detroit. Lions fans, you need to do something about this with me.
We need to all come together. This is bullshit.
It can't happen. Get this game overturned, Swifties.
All right, Back on track.

Crown Jewel.

Niners 42, Eagles 19. Max.
Yeah? I'm going to talk. I'll start.
I'll start. I spoke when spoken to.
Do you want me to just lead the show? I'm going to start. You lost the Dom game.
Yeah. You lost the Dom game.
Dom got ejected. Security Dom.
I'm mad at Max. I'm mad at him because this is the exact type of guy that I would have loved to know about for the past five years, six years.
And it seems like every Eagles fan knew about him. Security Dom, except for us.
Why did you keep Dom from us? Well, he's like in Philly for being the guy, but he hasn't done anything that's viral.

He's awesome.

Before today.

He's the best.

You should have told us about him.

And you lost the Dom game.

I know.

That hurts.

Losing the Dom game hurts.

Max, let's talk about this game real quick.

Do you think that maybe what I said about the Eagles defense being maybe gas was partially true? Yeah, no, that was true. 92 snaps on Sunday.
Three games in 15 days. And the Niners just – And the Niners had one game in the last 10.
The Niners just gashed them. Gashed them.
Yeah, no, there was a lot of tired legs out there. Do you think uh i i accidentally retweeted a tweet of yours during the game um oh sorry that you accidentally did that it said max said i can't stop thinking about how no one believes the eagles will win this game tomorrow it's fueling me it's so fantastically disrespectful you were going to come in here if the eagles won this game and be just the worst max possible.
Instead, the Niners ate your lunch, bullied you in your house. Bad games.
Week 13. Who cares? That was, though.
Week 13. That was not like.
That's week 13. But that was not just like, oh, this is a bad game.
Like, you got pumped. Yeah.
You got shit pumped. Yeah.
And week 13, you got shit pumped. So, Max, the last seven drives of the game for the 49ers, 85-yard touchdown drive, 90-yard touchdown drive, 75-yard touchdown drive, 77-yard touchdown drive, 75-yard touchdown drive, 47-yard touchdown drive.
Yeah, what about the first quarter? I mean, that's seven drives. In a row.
Hank, your team fucking blows. Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, here we go. Matt, shut up.
I'm not letting you off this. We already dressed Hank's shitty team, which is way worse than the Eagles.
Way worse. And it almost beat you week one.
That's very true. Do you think, though, that this was like the Eagles have been, you know, they've been flirting with it? They've played a lot of snaps in the past three weeks.
They had legs it's week 13 we're not going to overreact over one game they have they have the one seed in the nfc as of right now you win stop saying as of right now they have like as of right now yes they have the one seed in the nfc what is that well but what can i say as well that's just what everyone else is saying it's like oh you're gonna you're gonna lose this weekend like you have to beat the cowboys well yeah we already beat the fucking cowboys we're not talking about right now. Well, that's just what everyone else is saying.
It's like, oh, you're going to lose this weekend. You have to beat the Cowboys.
Yeah, we already beat the fucking Cowboys. We're not talking about the Cowboys.
We're talking about there's a lot of football left. The Cowboys are in your head.
No. No.
PFC told me the story about you earlier. The Cowboys are in your head.
That's the story from earlier. Good question, Hank.
What happened was I was like, Max, you guys, it's one thing to lose to the 49ers. They're a very good team.
Eagles are still a good team. But the way that you're getting pushed around, you're getting out-physicaled, you're just getting really just beaten down by them.
And that would be concerning to me if I were an Eagles fan. So I wanted to hear Max's take on it.
And Max was like, so what? Every team gets pushed around. Every team gets out-physicaled.
This was bad. The 49ers got out-physicaled by the Cardinals.
I meant to say Bengals. They got their shit pushed around by the Cardinals.
No one talks about that. And then I thought first thing, I was like, Max, tell me more about that Cardinals game where they just beat the fuck out of the 49ers.
He's like, yeah, I mean, it wasn't like an ass-kicking, but it was close, but it was the same kind of deal. They just got out-physicaled by the Cardinals.
I was like, when was that game, Max? And then Max thought about it for a second. He's like, oh yeah, that was the Cardinals and the Cowboys.

So you were thinking about the Cowboys.

All he's thinking about has been the Cowboys. Some say that

you were looking ahead to the Cowboys.

At that point, yes.

No, but before that, you were

looking ahead to the Cowboys. At that point, the Eagles were getting

shit pumped, so the game was over.

So we're looking to next week. So yes.
Let's play a quick

game. It's called Rank

This Statement in Factuality. Ready? Love this game.
The 49ers are the best team in the NFC. look into next week so yes let's play a quick game it's called uh rank this statement in

factuality ready love this game the 49ers the best team in the nfc fact you want to yeah let's play the right now game right now yes i don't understand the rules of this game i just was asking you to rank the answer is right now yes that one statement yeah five balls five balls Does that make you nervous, Max?

Win this week.

So you're going to just...

If we win this week, no. Does it make you nervous? They were rested.
49ers, you'd have to maybe play them in the playoffs, and they are better than you. Yeah, when we have rest.
Do they have a quarterback? No, you wouldn't play them. We didn't have a quarterback for the full game today either.
No, I'm asking if the 49ers would have a quarterback. Yeah, would the 49ers have a quarterback? Yeah, the Eagles wouldn't have a quarterback for the full game today either.
Don't do this, Max. Oh, my God.
That's sad. And I won't talk about the penalties.
Oh, oh. I mean, come on, Max.
I know. No.
This is sad. No, obviously the Niners shit pumped.
Penalties worth 70 points?

Obviously the Niners shit pumped the Eagles.

They're the better team right now without question.

Yes.

But they had 10 days of rest.

He agreed.

We played three.

Fact.

It's not just obvious to be like, oh, yeah, we just saw what happened.

That's what's going to happen in the NFC Championship game. There's going to be a lot of other factors that aren't going to go that way.
Shane, can you make us a quote card that says the Niners are the best team in the NFC? Right now. No.
No, that's what I said. Well, I'm your boss.
But I'm Shane's boss. Okay.
Well, I'm going to say, Shane, don't worry about Max. Make a quote card that says, The Niners are the best team in the NFC right...
No. No, no, no, no, no.
The Niners are the best team in the NFC. Make right now really small.
No, no, don't even say right now. I said, what was the first thing I said? Shane can't even hear me.
The Niners are the best team in the NFC. And then have a check mark saying approved by Max.
Fact approved by Max. Right now.
With the soul patch picture. With the soul patch picture.
That's mean. That's mean, Hank.
Yeah. But let's talk about this Dom fella.
Dom DeSandro, the Eagles CEO of security or sideline guy. I don't know what his official job title is.
He's just the guy. He's like the sideline protection guy.
Wearing a sleeve, arm sleeve arm sleeve wearing a compression sleeve an italian patch on the other sleeve gets up and drag greenlaw's face on the sidelines pushes them apart greenlaw tries doing his job he tries to put is that his job to like break up fights during the game his job is to protect the players i don't know if it's his job to step in security during the okay that's if regardless i like to listen no i don't want to getting to a scrum, would you want Mike to step in and protect you? I don't know if it's his job to step in during the game. Okay.
Regardless, I like Dom.

If we were to get into a scrum, would you want Mike to step in and protect you?

I don't want this to turn into me against Dom because I respect him.

Yeah, well, other people were against Dom.

And Dom is great.

I actually think it might be anti-Italian discrimination that he got kicked out

because it looks like he was kicked out for gesturing emphatically with his hands,

which, as the paisans know, he was just communicating to Drake Greenlaw.

At first when I saw that, I thought to myself,

this might be a boost for the Eagles because Dom is getting kicked out.

They might rally around Dom.

I think it was the lack of Dom on the sidelines that cost the Eagles this game.

I think that was a good trade for the Niners to get Greenlaw kicked out of the game

if it means that Dom has to hit the showers early.

Yeah, it's definitely something to look into. I mean, what are the Eagles without Dom? He's been on the sideline for the past 25 years.
Right. And I'm mad that you didn't tell us about Dom until the night.
Are you worried that Dom might get some repercussions? There's people talking about that, and if they do, the team will rally around Dom. Because Dom is...
We'll do the whole Harbaugh thing just for Dom. Just for Dom? Yeah.
Free Dom. I like that.
Free Dom. Free Dom.
Yeah, free Dom. Free Dom isn't free.
Also, shout out Jeff McDevitt on Twitter. He made a hilarious fuck at Dom highlights before this game even started, which rocks.
And he's not getting enough credit for that. That guy is awesome.
He's central casting. There's no chance that you could know going into that Dom would play a central part in this game, and he just made the highlights.
And he already had the highlights ready to rip. One of our inside sources from Philadelphia sent me a DM with some more information on Dom.
This is from a bigger man on campus. No longer a big man on campus.
He said a little background on Big Dom DeSondro. He's from South Philly, then moved to North Philly, from what I know.
Played high school football and then went to Penn State and played football. He didn't appear in a game.
Kicked off the team for an unknown reason. Hired in 1999.
Likes track suits. That's a scouting report.
He loves it. I saw Max, you showed me a picture of Dom on the sidelines rocking a track suit.
He had the sickest fate ever. He's just a guy that you want on your side.
He's great. I want a Dom.
We should try to get him on the show. There's no chance he would be on the show because Dom doesn't talk.
He would not talk publicly. I want to hire him.
I do too. Dom's seen some shit.
It seems like Dom is a perfect fit. Dom, I'll say this right now.
Dom definitely, like, when the Eagles were in their war room this year and they're like, we're drafting Jalen Carter, and they were like, Dom, you cool with this? He's like, I got it. Don't worry.
He won't speed in any cars. Dom definitely checked out what happened in Georgia.
He's like, I think we can work with him. You also saw the clip where when Jalen Hurts returned to FedEx Field, he was holding up the railing to make sure it didn't fall on him.
He held up the stadium. He was like Atlas with the world on his shoulders.
He's the fucking best. Now, you mentioned this.
I think you were alluding to our good friend Mike Florio, Max. We said some people are asking to look into Dom.
Mike Florio is asking why the NFL won't discipline Dom if they revoke Tyreek Hill's cameraman's credential.

Oh.

So he's drawn those conclusions on the side.

Now, to be clear.

I'm going to say, Mike, you can't do this.

This is Italian on Italian crime.

Yeah.

To be clear.

Stand down, Mike.

To be clear, the NFL should not have revoked that camera guy's credential either.

That was fucked up that they did that.

But let Dom, free Dom.

I'm woke on that one, but yeah. Oh, go on.
I just think that fucked up that they did that but let dom free dom i'm woke on that one but yeah oh go on i just think that i think they planned that and he had like a video not i'm not talking about dom anymore max i'm talking about the cameraman i think the cameraman and tyree kill planned that celebration yeah right so like i kind of understand the nfl's like you can't be an nfl employee and plan celebrations with players i'm okay with it i'm okay with it but I'm okay with it but I thought the video was like when he was like I'm being persecuted I want to be like but you guys plan that right like if he said if he had done a video been like we I planned a thing with my friend Tyree kill and then the NFL took my camera been like that's bullshit he made the video sound like Tyree kill like accidentally just showed up to his corner of the end zone it was like oh oh, give me your camera, and then they took it. He was just standing there minding his own business.
He also did the camera. Yeah, right.
It was planned. It's okay.
It was very choreographed. I'm okay with it.
As soon as he took the phone, he did the fake camera. I think it's bullshit what the NFL did.
I just didn't like that he released a video looking for pity, being like, this is insane. I didn't know this was going to happen.

Tyreek Hill just happened to do this.

No, it was planned.

It's okay.

It was planned.

It was cool.

I don't think that Tyreek Hill would plan

an elaborate touchdown celebration.

We haven't seen anything recently.

Back to the crown jewel.

Max, the Niners are better.

Right now.

Do you have anything to say about,

maybe the line should have been 20?

No. It was the right line.
Okay. Right now.
Do you have anything to say about, like, maybe the line should have been, like, 20?

No.

Oh.

It was the right line.

Okay.

Well.

I still think the line was disrespectful.

Because it was not.

It was disrespectful to the 49ers.

Yeah, yeah.

Silver lining in the crown jewel, though, Max.

Lane Johnson ate Nick Bosa's lunch.

Yeah.

Lane Johnson looked really good today.

He looked very healthy today.

Oh, let's do Whose Line Is It Anyway.

Cowboys-Eagles, Sunday Night Football next week.

In Dallas, I'm going to say Cowboys 2.5.

I'm going to say Cowboys 3.5.

Cowboys 6.5.

No.

I'll say 4.

I like 4. We have the Dallas Cowboys minus 3.
Okay. Okay.
I think I like the birds. Hungry.
I think I like the birds. Oh, you're hungry now? Hungry birds.
Wake up call. The Cowboys aren't hungry? The Cowboys lost to the Eagles.
It's also bullshit. We keep getting teams off of 10 days of rest.
Yeah, that is bullshit. That's bullshit.
Bird nugget of the week. We got the Chiefs off a bye.
We got the Niners off 10 days, and now we're getting the Cowboys off 10 days. Bird nugget of the week.
The Eagles are undefeated in games after which Dom DeSandro has been kicked off the sidelines. That's a fact.
Bird nugget. Updated playoff picture.
The Packers are in the seventh seed. It's fucking bullshit.
Also, the Eagles end with Giants, Cardinals, Giants. That's pretty good.
Yeah. Tommy DeVito.
Him and Dom are going to have Tommy DeVito. They're probably going to go for a nice steak dinner before.
Yeah, Dom will probably pay off Tommy DeVito to take a dive. Yeah.
He definitely will. Yeah, and also, Max, not to add insult to injury on your no good, terrible day, Roger Goodell came out and said he wants to ban the tush push.
Well, he's also a loser. Okay, okay.
That's a really good answer. I also don't really care about – they ban the tush push.
I think we're still just going to dominate. Yeah, I agree.
I think, as always, it comes down to Jerry Jones, who basically runs the NFL. He's pretty much the actual commissioner.
If the Eagles beat the Cowboys because of a tush push, you bet your sweet ass that play is getting banned next year. Yeah.
But it's just the push that's – like the pushing. The push.
And you'll still be fine with a normal quarterback. I think a normal quarterback's equal.
The tush will still be there. Yeah.
I mean, that tush is there. The tush is going to keep moving forward.
It's a good tush. Great tush.
They ran it with Mariota, too, and it worked. So you're not freaking out, Max, after this? Not, like, tweeting the standings over and over and responding to people? to people? No, I wasn't responding to anyone.
Oh, okay. I never respond to people.
Okay. Except that one Villanova guy that got under your skin.
Yeah. Well, he's a Nova legend.
Meanwhile, Villanova. They just lost to the drafts.
All the Philly teams are losing. This isn't a college basketball show.
No, but I mean, you do have to address Villanova losing.

No, I don't.

Why?

Yes, you do.

It just got brought up.

They lost.

People are having the conversation.

I can't say anything about Kyle Neptune or else I'm a clown. Because we're a sports podcast, Max.

So address Villanova losing.

Villanova is really bad against Philadelphia teams.

Oh, okay. All right.
Well, I'm excited for Sunday Night Football next week. Max, we're going to get peak Max.
We're going to try our best. We'll try to record a little early so maybe we can stream and people can watch Max.
I hate that I have to do this again. I think that's the crown jewel for next Sunday.
I think that's the crown jewel. You're 0-1 in crown jewels.
I'm done with crown jewels. No, you're 0-1 in crown jewels.
We also have Bill's Chiefs. Oh, we got two crown jewels.
I still probably take crown jewel is... Oh, that sucks.
Bill's Chiefs, that might be... If you have two crown jewels, you don't have one.
We got to figure out... We'll do the math on it.
We'll figure out which one's the actual jewel. Okay.
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Okay. College football.
The playoff has been announced. Michigan's the one seed.
Washington's the two seed. Texas three.
Alabama four. And it has been quite a two days of discourse.
College football at its finest. People getting mad.
Let's start first with Florida State. I think you and I probably agree, PFT.
Two things can be true at the same time. I know this is hard for the diehard college football fans who get mad at everything.
And I love them because I am one myself. But two things can be true at the same time.
Florida State deserved to be in the college football playoff.

The college football playoff is better off with Alabama in it.

Yeah, so if you asked literally any Division I coach,

I suspect it would be about 100%. Who would you rather play, Florida State or Alabama?

I think they would all say they would rather play Florida State.

I think Alabama is the better team right now, but Florida State got absolutely jobbed and we told you it was going to happen yeah when we talked to kirk herb street we could see a world where florida state goes undefeated and then the committee is like no you know what we're just going to have it be one of the uh you know you hate to say like big boys because florida state is a historic brand in college football but if you're talking about just the matchup of the game and the ratings in the game yeah it's going to be fucking Alabama that's the reality and also you got fucked because this is the last year of this playoff format they don't have to worry about what the precedent is moving forward correct I think that if there were like two more years after this or if this was just the way that it was where there's going to be a final four for the next 30 years i think they probably would have put florida state in because they they don't want to have to worry about that coming up to bite them in the ass in the future where they're like oh clearly this one team that's on like a nine game winning streak and demolishing teams is better than the team that's undefeated and won their power five conference which by the way crazy that there's power five there's five conferences there's four spots correct in the college football play oh that was that happened when they fucking did the whole thing and all these conference they're the dumbest the commissioners was so stupid and they just kill themselves every single way the it's it's absolute bullshit because you're basically saying the season does not matter uh and what you do to get there, they're just going to go with, oh, who we like right now. Florida State going 13-0.
Beating a Louisville team I know is not great, but they were a top 15 team and their defense completely shut them down. Florida State's defense is incredible.
But Florida State, so part of me thinks, like the woke part of me thinks that the college part of me thinks that uh the the college football logo yeah well part part of part of them doing this right now is also to make it so that there's less complaints and i know they don't really care about this but there will be less complaints about the 12 team playoff now that they've had this injustice happen yeah because everyone's going to be like well what was the? You leave a 13-0 Florida State out. Florida State just got screwed by this four-team playoff from the start to the finish.
If you remember back in 2014, the first ever college football playoff, four-team playoff, Florida State was undefeated, and they were third in the final standings behind Alabama, who had one loss, and Oregon had one loss. That was a game Jameis Rose Bowl lost to Oregon.
Funny fumble by Jameis. They literally went bookends of getting screwed over by this committee and the problem is the whole point of the playoff is to get it so that there is a undisputed national champion.
If Florida State goes and beats Georgia in their bowl game which they might they'll probably get smushed because Georgia's a better team and they Florida State doesn't have their quarterback Jordan Travis I get it that will probably happen but it doesn't matter if they win that game somehow and they're undefeated at 14-0 and they beat Georgia how can you say there's an undisputed national champion that's what's great is if Florida State happens to beat Georgia claim that national championship yeah just claim it just say it pull the UCF and there's no rule saying that you can't declare yourself national champion if you're undefeated that's what I would do and if you're Florida State there's probably a good chance that you would have lost in this playoff but we never know like you can't say for a fact. Jordan Travis said, I wish I'd broke my leg earlier in this season.
It was so sad. Which is, or I think you were tweeting something about this big cap, but I was thinking on Friday, they would be better off if Florida State just lied about the extent to which Jordan Travis was in.
Yes. And said he could come back.
To the Aaron Rodgers. In time for the playoffs.
Yeah. Because then at that point, that would have put them up against a wall on the playoff committee because it'd be like, oh, shit, how do we figure out exactly how injured this guy is? He might be back.
The problem that, and again, I want it very clear, I'm excited to watch these games because I do think that, you know, Bama is better than Florida State as of right now without their quarterback. Again, the joy I'm going to get watching these games, these games are going to be great.
These are probably the four best teams. I'm just saying from a standpoint of playing a season and the games mattering, Florida State got absolutely screwed.
Because the games should matter. And if you beat everyone in front of you on your schedule.
And not only that, they beat two non-conference SEC teams. So they beat LSU in week one.
They beat Florida at the Swamp. So road games, I know the first game was neutral.
You should be rewarded for that, and it's bullshit. And my biggest problem with it is when you play the game of who's power rated better, who's favored, that just basically takes out all the fun in sports.
you go back to just friday night friday night before the washington oregon game if you ask the line makers who like oregon was nine and a half point favorites oregon would be favored over over uh like everyone in the country what happened washington came out and beat oregon if you did the whole who would be favored, then Georgia should be in the playoff.

If you ask the line makers right now who would be favored over all four playoff teams, it's Georgia.

Georgia was favored over Alabama on Saturday by five and a half.

Alabama beat them. That's the fun of sport.

Sport is supposed to be, hey, we think one team's better than the other, but we don't know.

And when we get out there, we find out. Washington was a nine and a half ten point underdog against oregon beat him twice again yeah like the games do matter and they should matter and and i also think it's out like the fun of like hey upsets happen random things happen if we if we just went off of who we think is better in a power rating that's all the fun of sport is gone i i do love the people that are making the argument about the loss that Alabama had.
That was the best loss. Yeah, no, someone tweeted me, yeah.
You can't say Alabama had the best loss because it was against Texas, but then also say Alabama had the best win because it was over Georgia. And then you can do the circular logic.
Somebody tweeted at me, don't you understand that Bama lost to a team who beat Bama in Bama great loss by Bama yeah fantastic loss Bama over Georgia is a better win than Texas over Bama making Texas over Bama a better win than Bama over Georgia yeah you can do the circular logic and if you go through that then you'll just end up being like well Oklahoma is actually the best team in the country yeah no someone did someone straight up said to me that Bama should be in over Texas when that debate was going on because people thought maybe Florida State was guaranteed in because Bama's loss was better because great Texas lost to Oklahoma who has two losses yeah it was a fantastic loss Texas only has one fantastic loss but Bama with the loss of the year I am happy at least that the way the committee did rank Texas overas over alabama because it did show hey do games do actually matter um but yeah it just sucks because florida state like i again i i don't think that they were one of the four best teams without jordan travis but like you you won all your games they should be won all your games but to your point wasn't bam is lost to texas only good because tex Texas beat Bama? Yeah. Because Texas was a better team than Oklahoma.
Oklahoma beat Texas. Oklahoma's a worse team than Texas.
You're going to drive yourself insane. Even though Oklahoma beat Texas.
Yes. You're going to drive yourself insane if you think of all these different scenarios.
The irony is that the college football playoff was delayed in terms of moving to 12 years by the alliance yeah and the alliance no they're all idiots the alliance had the acc in it and it ended up fucking them over at the end because we should have been in the 12 team playoff this year i'm i'm happy that like the committee gets roasted i'm happy that the the commissioners get roasted because they're all a bunch of morons how they've dealt with all of this stuff, and this is what we get. We get a 13-0 Florida State team not in the playoff, and it sucks.
It was funny, though. They did a Zoom meeting for I don't know what bowl it is.
It might be the Peach Bowl or maybe the Orange Bowl, but it was just a Zoom meeting of Mike Norvell and Kirby Smart. Yeah, it was Orange Bowl there they looked so miserable looking furious so so miserable and I want to talk about the games real quick too um Kirby Smart like I don't know what happened but he just resorted back to like scared of Bama Kirby Smart that that play calling in the first half where Georgia went down the field in the first drive throwing the ball and and dicing him up and then And then they just kind of turtled offensively.
And I actually think it's going to be a hot take, and Georgia fans are not going to be mad. Memes, you can rate my take.
I think that Brock Bowers actually hurt Georgia in that game. They were trying to force it to him too much? They were forcing it to him, and he was clearly not 100%.
And they have, like, it's Georgia. They have guys behind Brock Bowers.
I know that that Brock Bowers is incredible but when Brock Bowers is at 75% like put in the guys that can get crazy separation put in the guys that can stretch the field they were able to do that at times against Bama and then they were just had possessions where they were running the ball and trying to force it to Brock Bowers and he couldn't make the same explosive plays that we've seen him be able to make you also had Lad Ladd McConkie get dinged up. He was playing at about 60% of his stuff.
Again, just put in the – He can't replace Ladd. But Bama, I give all the credit in the world to – I mean, Nick Saban, best coaching job he's ever had.
Tommy Reese gets a ton of credit because what that offense has changed into from that Texas game. Jalen Milrow has gotten so much better this year.
It's incredible, and they're able to do so many dynamic things and they're they're clicking at the right time and i mean this is i'll say this the florida state debacle aside this is the first time i feel like we have a college football playoff where all four teams can win the the title and it's not like a leap of imagination it is four teams that are so fucking good and they all like they all kind of do stuff like the like i don't really know how michigan's offense is going to match up against bama because michigan's offense isn't that explosive but i also think michigan's defense is better than what bama has faced texas texas defense is phenomenal their secondary is a little weak washington can pass the ball like it's going to be a great matchup everywhere. It's awesome.
There's four very different styles of play, four parts of the country represented, which is awesome, and four different colors, which is cool. New colors.
You got the crimson, you got the orange, you got the purple, and you got the blue. Yeah.
It's great. It's a very visually appealing Final Four for college football.
I'm excited for the games. Also, I think that the committee, it was a couple things.
They don't have to deal with the repercussions and the precedent that they set by fucking over Florida State. And also, they don't have to deal with hundreds of thousands of very pissed off SEC fans that want to burn all their houses down.
And I get it. Like, you can't, you know, it would have been weird if the SEC got left out.
It sucks. But this also was a down-ish year for the SEC.
And we wouldn't even be having that conversation if Auburn had just not rushed two players and put a third as a fucking spy. It's so crazy that we're like, Bama is playing the best ball.
They were so close to losing. I know rivalry games are always different throughout the record books, all that shit, but they were that close to losing that game.
So to say that they're like killing everyone right now is just not actually correct. It's not true.
They should have lost to Auburn, but they didn't. Now, if Bama had lost to Auburn, Bama against Georgia, Bama beats Georgia, do you think they put in georgia over fsu if bama wait say it again so if if bama had lost to auburn yeah it would still be alabama in the championship game against oh yeah probably you think georgia if they had beaten if they had lost to bama maybe after bama maybe ohio state gets in i was i was hoping that ryan day got in the mix just trying to plead his case because Ohio State wasn't even mentioned in a hypothetical.
Yeah. It was never even said.
Also, I know the votes have to keep – they still have to be submitted, but we're looking in a good spot with Jaden Daniels. It's pretty good.
Bo Nix. I felt bad for Bo Nix.
At the end of the day, he had a pretty good press conference after where he's like, all I ever want to do is play college football. I want to take my team to the national title.
It was a perfect ending for me and Bo Nix because Bo Nix' very first game in college football, I remember vividly I bet Oregon against Auburn, and he made, like, incredible Bo Nix, pulled plays out of his ass to beat me. And his last game in college football I had a future on Oregon I was like Bo Nix again I was a he got me I I watched his whole career and he got I was a believer in that first game against Oregon I remember watching that in a bar and I was like Bo Nix just looks sounds like a Heisman guy yeah good news is he's got two more years of eligibility so he'll be yeah but but it's for for twice more.
It was crazy because there was a lot of people who watched Friday night, and unfortunately this is – I think the public who tunes in, like – I'm not going to say casually, but some casual fans who tune in to college football are very much like Heisman voters because I got a lot of people saying Michael Penick should be the Heisman after Friday night, just completely erasing the fact that the last month

Washington has struggled and barely gotten by,

which Washington, their defense has gotten so much better

as the season's gone along,

and they are absolutely in it to win the whole thing.

But it was just funny watching people watch one game

and be like, Penix is the Heisman.

You can also say that Penix is an awesome quarterback,

and he's very good.

He's really good.

And his story is incredible.

He'll be in New York. Yeah.
And,'s very he's definitely like a top five guy but then you watch jayden daniels play and you're like holy fuck this guy is clearly the best player yeah no he'll he'll he'll be in new york for sure um but yeah it was a great weekend of college football it was also really really funny just watching uh like we had you know texas just Kill oklahoma state a great sec championship game and then on saturday night it was just two games that were painful to watch in michigan iowa and florida state louisville i kept thinking i was going to cross midfield they did once and they fumbled yeah yeah i was hoping that i was going to like you said you like that they piss people off i've been been hoping for the longest time since before that Minnesota game that Iowa was going to somehow win the Big Ten championship and force their way into the college football playoff just to piss off the most amount of people. I was hoping for an upset.
But they have two losses. They got two losses now because of the Minnesota loss.
Yeah. It was a bad game on all accounts.
It was painful to watch because you kept hoping, like thinking something's going to happen. Something interesting is going to happen in this game.
Nothing did. It was just the Iowa defense playing their balls off.
I bet Michigan, and it was the hardest I've ever had to have a team cover that was so much better than the other team because it was so hard for Michigan to score. I just wanted one touchdown from Iowa.
That would have done it for me. Just one touchdown would have been nice.
I think I might go Texas. I think I might be leaning Texas here.
I'm worried about their secondary against that Washington offense because that Washington offense is so good. But, yeah, I think we might get a rematch.
I think we might get Texas-Alabama. That would be amazing.
That was tough. Michigan's reaction to Alabama.ama yep that tells you what you need to know they shouldn't have had they should not have had that someone i think it was a journalist in there it was adam rittenberg who works for maybe the big 10 network he they shouldn't have allowed anyone in there to tape it in a twist of fate michigan should have made sure that no one could illegally tape them well what they should have done is they should have recorded one announcement where they play against Alabama.
Yeah. One where they play against Florida State, gotten the reactions and then be like, oh, OK, yeah, they're going to play Alabama.
Yeah. Yeah.
So also it's fucked up that they had Florida State on camera finding out the news. Yeah.
That was tough. Yeah.
And I do think if you're a Florida State fan, you have every right to be pissed off you got fucked no yeah you you you got fucked you're 13 and oh like you can't do anything more than that you're a power five school and people start throwing out liberty and ucf liberty we're talking power five schools liberty had the the last in terms of strength of schedule they had the weakest strength of schedule their opponents but people like to do that where they're like what what about Liberty? They're undefeated. The last.
Last place. And guess what? In the 12-team playoff, Liberty would be in.
Which would be great. In the 12-team playoff, people are saying, well, you're just going to have this debate times 10 when it comes to the 12-team playoff.
No, because here's what you say. You should have won more games.
Right. And the difference is we're never going to be debating an undefeated team being

left out. We're going to be debating a three loss

team versus a two loss team. Yep.
And that

you can swallow a lot better

than anything else. And

there's going to be a lot of those debates will be head to head.

We'll be able to decide it. So,

but yeah, I'm excited for bowl season.

I'm going to bet every single bowl. That's a fact.

I love bowl season. Oh.

I love bowl season. If anybody out there is on the Armed Forces Bowl Committee,

I'd love to be involved in the flyover.

JMU, Air Force, let me know.

You're going to get in there?

I'll put aside my fear of heights.

Tie up there.

I know.

I lost out on my flyover back in April when I had to close on the house.

Or May.

So, just letting you know.

I'll identify every player.

And we get Toledo.

We get our guy Jason Candles.

Thank you. is on the house or may so i just just letting you know i'll identify every plan we get to lito we get our guy jason candles Arizona bulls gonna be yeah Wyoming looking for revenge after last year's heartbreaking overtime loss yeah it's gonna be awesome yeah so bowl season nothing like it and uh Florida State fans we stand with you and being upset but just if you make a T-shirt saying your national title, you know, national champions, PFT and I will wear it on a show.
Yeah, claim the fuck out of that national championship. Send us some T-shirts saying that you're national champions.
We will wear it, and you've got to do it right now. Yeah.
Because if you get smushed by Georgia, there's going to be a lot of like, see, see, see. So do it right now.
this is your like three weeks to just enjoy the fuck out of this also same two things can be true at the same time uh one florida state should have gotten in two i'm kind of glad it's alabama yeah that's what i'm saying as a college football watch it's okay to have two thoughts in your head at one but you did get fucked you got fucked but i'm happy because it is probably the four best teams yeah yeah it's it's fair to say uh okay let's finish up rowback use promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts rowback.com the best clothes out there we love rowback we're non-stop i'm wearing the joggers all the time rowback.com promo code take uh my rowback question is hank who's back of the week uh my who's back i'm shocked we did this all this college football talk without talking about this the uh halftime dr pepper challenge yeah back this weekend best part about a college football championship weekend i love the refs The refs are great we had oh they saw we had one guy actually throwing uh normally which i respected and then we had a triple overtime or a double overtime triple triple overtime gavin and ryan a little bit of controversy i guess in the first overtime uh they counted six for ryan when it should have been five so gavin should have won he ended up losing it was you know the dr pepper challenges are always great but this was first triple overtime i've seen always electric uh and it's exciting my favorite was the dude that's going to community college and he got a hundred thousand dollars yeah for community college that dude is going to buy so many cigarettes it is great a little dy little dystopian, but it's great. Oh, extremely.

That's what's fun about it.

The dystopian part?

Here's how you get to survive in your 20s without being up to your nutsack in debt.

You have to throw footballs into a giant Dr. Pepper chest pass.

College costs so much, we're going to wheel you out here,

and you've got to win your freedom.

Tell me how much you love this fucking soft drink.

But that's why Gavin got robbed, literally.

Yeah, well, no, but they paid him, right?

This is... and you got to win your freedom.
Tell me how much you love this fucking soft drink. But that's why the Gavin got robbed, literally.
Yeah. Well, no, but they paid him, right? Did they? I think they rectified him.
They did. Yeah.
Oh, okay. They paid him both out.
That's good. Yeah.
They could do that for everyone. Yeah.
For everyone in America. Sounding like Bernie Sanders over here, Hank.
Did we just get a light bulb off in your head? I do. I've always been a Bernie guy yeah um yeah we're I'm also going to guarantee that we are we're gonna whoever wants to advertise with us we're gonna do this next year the week leading up in this office we're gonna have a huge challenge and maybe we'll we'll make we'll find a way to make it as dystopian yeah someone wins like we'll get them out of debt or something we'll pay for if you have any health care bills yeah but it will be it will be great we're gonna we're gonna and should we ban the the chess pass yeah oh 100 yeah okay i'm i'm 100 yeah i'm 100 in on that 100 uh okay they should just move it back that would ban the chess path yeah if it was 20 yards yeah uh, your who's back of the week.
My who's back of the week is also related to college football. My who's back is mouthpieces.
Yes. Mouthpieces are back.
We've been discussing mouthpieces a little bit on this show, all the new trends and how people are just wearing their mouthpieces on their face mask, not putting them in. They flop around.
The Bills receivers are leading the league in that. I remain convinced that thepieces if they if they're hanging that far down they get into your field division at some point yep whatever that's this is my most old man yells at cloud take i'm sounding like colin coward but i i think i am actually right about this one um it reached a new level this weekend in the georgia game georgia alabama uh anthony evans i think he a freshman.
He's a punt returner for Georgia. He was wearing not one, not two, but three mouthpieces at once on his person.
Look at this big cat. He's got a red one in his mouth right here, red one in his mouth.
I saw this guy. Yellow one hanging down.
And then he has a third mouthpiece that's jammed into his left ear hole. Oh, I love it.
On his helmet. I love it.
He's accessorized. I hate the two mouthpiece look when you've just got two mouthpieces dangling just randomly.
I kind of love three mouthpieces. I want to see as many mouthpieces you can fit on a person's helmet.
Fully accessorized. Yeah, get every hole plugged up with a mouthpiece.
I love it. Yeah, mouthpieces are becoming a thing.
But if there's two, Congress needs to step in. Tommy Tuberville would absolutely do something about this.
Oh, without a doubt. No, you can't do two.
You can do three or more. You can do one, zero, or three or more.
That's my ruling. All right.
My Who's Back of the Week is LeBron because he got into it with Emei Udoka. This is great.
We got the actual audio of it. LeBron, or Imei Udoka told him to stop bitching, and LeBron said, nah, that bitch word ain't cool.
Don't use it so loosely. And Udoka said, what are you going to do about what I said? Walking over here like you're going to do something, soft-ass boy.
Fucking ruled. And Imei Udoka kind of looked him up and down, like, what are you going to do? I think Imei Udoka would, he stands up.
Didn't he get hit by a car when he was a kid? Did he? I don't know. No, you're thinking about Kelly Oubre.
No. No, that never happened.
You're saying anything about soft-ass boy? What? Soft-ass boy? What about soft-ass boy? Why are you saying soft-ass boy? That was the quote. There's a huge difference between soft ass boy and little boy ass play Yeah, Max Is he saying he has a soft ass? No He's saying his ass is soft What? Like your ass is soft Soft ass boy You said little boy ass play It was the same thing, it's not.
Yes, it was. The FBI will show up to your house for one or two of those things.
It was described. The ass is just an accessory to the sentence.
You're thinking a lot about little asses. You're the one who was thinking about little asses.
There's a big difference between a soft ass and a little boy ass play. Correct, Hank.
But they were both used in the same manner. Ass play and soft ass.
Yeah, I think we can all agree. Worst case scenario for soft ass is just like, you know, your little marshmallow ass.
But I'm just saying. Worst case scenario for little boy ass play is a lot worse.
I'd say every case for little boy ass play.

But you understand that it was used in the same manner.

No.

Listen, soft asses can be good sometimes.

Little boy ass play is never the play.

Ima Udoka thing, by the way, he is a badass.

So when he was four years old, I'm reading this from a Ringer article, he was getting dropped off by his bus for school, and Ime knew he should wait for the bus to pull out before he crossed Denver Street, which was always so busy, but the bus driver smiled assuredly and waved him across. Even at four, Udoka felt a sense of trepidation.
He peeked out, saw nothing, then took a step. The van driving by in the lane adjacent to the bus didn't see the boy until it was too late.
Udoka was clipped in the forehead and sent careening back onto the concrete where the back of his head squashed like a soft pumpkin. Oh, fuck.
He lay in the street, blood flowing in a daze. This is when he was four.
Soft-ass head. Yeah, email Udoka.
I would like to see that fight. I kind of like getting some soft i would like to see i would like to see that fight though it was funny though that lebron lebron really gets in his dad shit sometimes yeah he's like don't talk to me i'm a father of three still rattled from the from the woman from golden state yeah yep yeah how does it feel to be a pussy ass bitch yeah hey who said that yeah no he yeah remember when he's like don't talk to me like that i'm a a father of three.
But you know what? Oh, I'd make the joke, father of three. It makes a difference who's saying things to LeBron because he will be language police on you all day long if he's intimidated by you.
Yeah. But if you're Dylan Brooks, you can say like 10 times worse things to LeBron.
He's just laughing at you. And they'll just laugh at your face.
The fact that Emei got in his head about this tells me Emei is mentally outflying him. Don't like that word, bitch.
Okay, Jake, finish us off. My Who's Back of the Week is Old Takes Exposed.
We got it on the part of my take account this week from a blog that I wrote reporting Andy Staples' comments titled, Texas football will once again disappoint in 2023. Oh, so we didn't get Old Takesick exposed.
Well, I reported it, but it was Andy Saples.

Yeah, no, we didn't.

Andy's a fucking moron.

No, throw him under the bus.

No, Andy's an idiot.

And also, future Old Tick exposed.

PFT, your coach who left for Indiana, Kurt Signetti,

he went to the Indiana basketball game.

Yeah.

He said, Purdue sucks, so does Michigan and Ohio State.

Yep.

That won't backfire. No, I respect his ambition.
I love his passion. Yeah.
I love his passion. Good try.
But that's very clearly a guy with his first Power 5 job going out, trying to say all the right things. I guarantee you right now he's looking back on that like, uh-oh.
Well, I mean, there's also a good chance that Ohio State and Michigan just don't care. I was talking to Ibo, who we work with, who went to JMU, and I was like, welcome to big-time college football because now you're in the spot as a JMU fan where you're rooting for your awesome coach to fail so he comes back.
Oh, I'm thinking like the other way around. I want him to succeed.
A lot of people at JMU are pissed that we lost him. But he'll come back, though.
If he, in three years, doesn't do anything in Indiana, he'll come back and it will be awesome for you. You have to be realistic.
JMU is a stepping stone job right now. We're a very good group of five school, one of the best group of five schools.
But if you're going to have great success there, you're going to get power five schools that want to coach your coach. They can pay way more than we can pay.
So just accept it. Be like, this is a great job to have if you want to get an elite job next.
Also, he was on Big Ten Network from Lucas Oil, and he said, I figure I should make this trip up here since we'll be playing in this game next year. I kind of love it.
He's a moron. Yeah, he should not have said that.
He should come back. No more divisions though, right? Yeah, but all you got to do is say we're going to beat Purdue

and then just be good with that.

Kurt, Cignetti, I think what we've learned in the past four days

is that you're not ready for that job yet.

Yeah.

Just come on back.

Come home.

Exactly.

That's what I'm saying.

You just got to root for him to come back.

Just come home.

All right.

Good show, boys.

Covered everything.

Let's finish it off with some numbers.

I'll go 71.

Seven. Eighteen go 71.
7.

18.

20.

8.

Pug.

Shane.

10.

What'd you say, Hank?

Memes.

I have three.

Pug's got 10.

No, wait.

Shane's got 10.

Or Shane's got 10.

18.

Somebody has 10.

What's yours, Hank?

What number?

7.

Pug has 28, he said. 28? Pardonmyballs.com 44.
44. Hank, were you enjoying that body armor today? 44.
Yeah, it was. Interesting.
We pissed in it. No.
We didn't. But I did put it in my butthole no you didn't

we'll roll the tape for him tomorrow sucks for you also if you did that that's that's bad for

you no that would actually i i would say like you should we don't have hr anymore but you should

hire new hr and then complain yeah like that that will be bad yeah no that would be bad

that would be over the line i just i accomplished everything i wanted to with making hank like

Thank you. Hire new HR and then complain.
Yeah, like that. That will be bad.
Yeah, no, that would be bad. That would be over the line.
I accomplished everything I wanted to with making Hank maybe 10% think that he just drank out of my butthole. You taste a little butthole in your mouth? No.
Just a tiny bit? I didn't do it. Also, I pooped my pants a little bit yesterday.
Nice. Also, check out Surviving Barstool tonight.
Yes. Surviving Barstool.
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But it's $9.99 for the next seven episodes. Once the finale airs, you can get it for free at Barstool on Barstool TV.
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If you want to watch it live, I think it's very much worth it. It's an incredible seven episodes that are coming up.
It's $9.99. Not a huge price, but yeah.
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We'll tweet it out. Not backslash.
Yeah, slash. I'm pretty sure it's on all Roku TVs, too.
Awesome. Oh, nice.
Hell yeah. And we appreciate everybody that bought Black Friday merchandise that was in the Cyber Monday that got 20% off.
And yeah, like asking you for money, we understand it. But as Big Cat said, in my opinion, it's worth it if you want to pay for it.
If you don't want to pay for it, it'll be there. And tonight's episode should be wild.
All right, let's do one more number though. That was too much time in between numbers.
And I love you guys. This count's official.
40. 18.
71.

20.

8.

So Hank's the only one that changed.

You went to 40?

What did you got?

10?

What are yours, Pug?

Pug 28.

Pug 99.

Pug 99.

So Evan and Hank changed.

What was yours, PFT?

8.

31. 31.
31. And that was like 81.
31. 31.
I know it's like 81. 31.
31. What was it? 31.
Oh, that's our first repeat in the new machine. Wow.
Love you guys. I know the good times.
We've had a few. Don't worry about it now Sometimes it's hard Don't you ever lie Cause it's never too far from me Cause it's never too far from me No, it's never too far from me

Cause it's never too far for it We'll be a few.

Don't worry about it now.

Sometimes it's hard.

Don't you ever give up?

Cause it's never too far from me. Cause it's never too far from me.

Cause it's never too far from me.

No, it's never too far from me. Change your life.

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