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Speaker 1 We're going to actually do our own version of the sports equinox because we're going to talk hockey with Ryan Whitney. We got NFL trade deadline.
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Speaker 1 James Harden traded again

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Speaker 1 Welcome to Part in My Take. Today is Wednesday, November 1st,

Speaker 1 and the Washington Commanders are doing a fire sale.

Speaker 3 Yeah, everything must go.

Speaker 3 I was trying to engineer a trade of Sweat and Young to the Niners in exchange for Kyle Shanahan to come back home.

Speaker 3 Did not work.

Speaker 3 Congratulations, big cat. Let me be the first to congratulate you on getting Montez Sweat.
He's a fine young player. Thank you.
Second round pick. I'm happy.
You're happy. I think we both fleece.

Speaker 3 I think it was a double fleecing.

Speaker 1 A double fleecing. I am.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I feel. I don't know what I feel.

Speaker 1 Are you hungry? I'm always hungry. I could always eat.

Speaker 1 But, yeah, I don't know what I feel in the fact that

Speaker 1 I like the move because I assume every trade like this, you assume that there is a deal in place to re-sign Montez Sweat.

Speaker 1 So everyone's like, why would you trade a second-round pick for a guy who's going to be a free agent? Obviously, if he becomes a free agent, this is the dumbest deal ever.

Speaker 1 I am assuming that Ryan Paul has already worked it out with his agent and there's a plan in place to sign him long-term, which, if that's the case, I like the deal because you probably aren't going to get a Montez Sweat in the second round who can help your defense right away next year.

Speaker 1 But there's also the part of the Bears are in this weird no man's land now where they added a very good player, but they're also trying to lose.

Speaker 3 The Bears are all in. This is an all-in move that you just made.

Speaker 1 It's a little bit of confusing. If they had traded Jalen Johnson, then I would have been fully confused.
I would have been like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 Because there were rumors that Jalen Johnson would get traded, which made no sense.

Speaker 1 Because I'm a firm believer in when you're tanking as a football team, it is important to tank, but it's also important to hold on to your good players.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so you got a good player. You got a very good young player.
I think he's worth a second-rounder. I was surprised to get a second-rounder as long as they resign him.

Speaker 3 But I think there's no chance in hell that he just becomes a free agent at the end of the season.

Speaker 1 That would make it the dumbest trade ever.

Speaker 3 I think it actually would be the dumbest trade besides the Louisiana purchase.

Speaker 1 And Chase Claypool.

Speaker 3 And Chase Claypool, this would be by far the worst trade of all time. But at the very least, you could franchise tag him.
So you at least get a year and a half.

Speaker 3 But that also doesn't make sense to spend a second-round pick on a player that's going to play, what, 24 games for you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he's got a long-term deal. Let me be the first to report that Montez Sweat has signed a long-term deal with the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 3 And he's happy to be here. And he's happy to be here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that was

Speaker 1 my confusion.

Speaker 1 I am a believer in polls, but the confusion was when I immediately saw the trade and i said to myself i like this trade because i i do think like if a guy is proven as an nfl talent it's more important than a draft pick yes uh because he's been there done that you know he's going to be good you're not just going off of measurements and hypotheticals uh but my explanation of how i like the trade the fact that they they're going to sign him to a long-term deal and he's better than a second-round player that you're going to get, a lot of people pointed out that it was the exact same reasoning I used with Chase Claypool.

Speaker 3 But he is actually good.

Speaker 1 And that's a big difference.

Speaker 3 And he's not a head case. That's a big difference.
And he's played through injuries. He's been a bright spot on the Commanders.

Speaker 3 I've been saying for the last, what, year and a half, I would rather keep sweat than young. And then two weeks ago, I was like, fuck it, trade both of them.

Speaker 3 So I'm glad they listened to at least what my train of thought was because it's a full-blown fire sale. It's a rebuild.
And I think I'm setting a record. I think all my teams are rebuilding right now.

Speaker 1 That's actually not bad, though.

Speaker 3 But to have all of them, I was talking to Max earlier.

Speaker 1 My team's stinking kind of rebuilt.

Speaker 3 As much shit as I give Max,

Speaker 3 he's got so many fun teams to root for.

Speaker 3 And having expectations.

Speaker 1 He's covering James Harden, which we'll get to.

Speaker 3 And now it's like

Speaker 3 every team. Every team is in a rebuild.
Batum. Batum.

Speaker 1 Batum. It's very.

Speaker 1 Are you thinking of Gratom?

Speaker 3 Are you thinking of Tatum?

Speaker 1 No, he's thinking of Batum. Jason Tatum.
I've never heard anyone call him Batum.

Speaker 3 Jason Tatum. I mean, it's spelled as Tatum.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, but he's a Batum.
He's French.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's...

Speaker 3 Batum.

Speaker 1 I don't see any of the bread. All right, wait, so where are you so Shamal?

Speaker 3 No, I was just saying, like,

Speaker 3 I'm fighting a rebuild on all sides, with the exception of the Capitals, which are,

Speaker 3 they're the one team that might should be rebuilding, but they're just putting off a rebuild to engineer Ovi to get to the

Speaker 3 goal record, which I'm fine with. But it's tough.

Speaker 3 I traded it all for the James Madison Dukes. But that's what I did.
What did it cost me? Everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but here's how you rank it as a sports fan. You obviously, number one, you want your teams competing for titles, but I think number two is rebuilds.
Number three is no man's land.

Speaker 3 And now I get to root for the Bears to lose all their games, so that second-round pick basically becomes a first-round pick.

Speaker 1 Look, we're aligned. We're fully aligned.
I like that.

Speaker 3 I am a believer in polls, except for the one Hank put in the parking lot. But I think that he definitely has a plan in place to get

Speaker 3 a big extension for sweat. And then with Young going out to the Niners, I would like to officially announce I'm all in on the Niners now.

Speaker 3 Trent Williams, Chase Young, Kyle Shanahan. I said this on Monday's show, but if you're a fan of a shitty franchise, the best you can do sometimes is to just root for your guys to win somewhere.

Speaker 3 So I'm going to put a big future on the Niners. They're my team.
They're friends of the program, Hank. Yes.
As you know, very well.

Speaker 3 Kittle, all those guys. Now's the time to buy in on the Niners because it's buy low, sell high.

Speaker 1 And I like what the Niners did in the fact that their secondary has been getting torched, and they're like, you know what we'll do? We'll just make sure the quarterback can never throw. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just beef it up even more.

Speaker 3 Just run the ball. Just defense is going to be awesome.
Yeah. Play with a lead.
You know what this is?

Speaker 3 They're making it so they never have to play from behind. Yes.
And just have their defense be nasty as hell.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
So, yeah, the NFL trade deadline, it's ending right now, actually, as we're taping this.

Speaker 1 And that was Josh Dobbs to the Minnesota Vikings. Yep.

Speaker 1 I feel like Josh Dobbs is probably pissed about this because he's got to keep playing football. And

Speaker 1 it hasn't gone well recently.

Speaker 3 Well, the best thing he can hope for is their backup in Minnesota, who's starting this week.

Speaker 1 Right, Jaron Hall.

Speaker 3 Jaron Hall, he steps in and plays for him.

Speaker 1 Or Nick Mullins when he comes back.

Speaker 3 And then he just gets to chill up in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 We do get to watch Kyler Murray. Yeah.
That you would assume. I think Clayton Toon might be starting for the Cardinals this week.

Speaker 3 He might be starting this week and then Murray next week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then was there any other big trades?

Speaker 3 The Jets just signed Roger Saffold to the practice squad with the intent to promote him to the active roster. Oh, He was on the Bills.
He was on the Bills last year.

Speaker 1 Donovan Peoples-Jones is going to the Lions. Detroit.
Yeah, who, by the way, that was the most maddening Monday night football game I've ever watched as someone who bet on the Lions.

Speaker 1 They should have won by 50.

Speaker 1 And they just let the Raiders hang around, even though the Raiders are dog shit. They're very bad.
They're hard to watch.

Speaker 3 Jimmy Garoppolo had two missed passes to Devontae Adams that would have netted, I think, like 160 yards worth of touchdowns. And one, he just threw the ball out of bounds by like 10 yards.

Speaker 3 The other, he overthrew him by five. Jimmy is,

Speaker 3 I feel like Jimmy's not old Jimmy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's not old Jimmy. I have a thing with Devontae Adams.
So it's become, everyone is like, oh, poor Devontae Adams, he should be a free agent.

Speaker 1 I actually liked Robert Mays, who's a very good writer.

Speaker 1 He had a great idea, which would be awesome, that we vote every single trade deadline, and one player just gets, like the best players, one player in the entire league gets released and the team gets a draft compensation, and then that player immediately becomes a free agent.

Speaker 1 So, like, Devontae Adams was a free agent right this second, and the Raiders get a draft pick, like they get the 33rd pick, that would rule.

Speaker 3 But counterpoint, he would go to the Chiefs and would be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 That's probably true. But Devontae Adams, so I feel bad that he's playing for a bad team, but he wanted to go to the Raiders.
Yeah, he made it. He said that.

Speaker 1 He said he wanted to be closer to the West Coast with his family.

Speaker 1 Yes, he obviously also said he wanted to play with Derek Carr, who then got, who's now on the Saints, but it wasn't like Devontae Adams, like he had a say in how this all went down.

Speaker 3 You can make a choice. Right.
And then your choice is, okay, you're going to opt for a big contract somewhere else.

Speaker 3 And knowing that the NFL is a business, you might not be around the same guys for forever. I think there should be an end-of-season award to either like most misused guy

Speaker 3 or guy that you just feel bad for. Really good player that you feel bad for, but looked like they were trying their hardest this season.

Speaker 3 They get like a vacation season.

Speaker 1 I don't feel bad for Devontae Adams. You willingly chose to go to Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 3 I respect what Devontae Adams did after the game, which was they asked him, like, how are you feeling right now? And he just said,

Speaker 3 I don't have words that I can say that won't get me in trouble.

Speaker 3 So these are my words that I'm going to say right now because I don't know how else to express myself other than saying, fuck this entire organization.

Speaker 1 That happens all the time on the show, and then we make the person say it. Yeah.
And then we get to the bad points.

Speaker 3 Then we get to Justin Fields is wearing sunglasses. I don't like that.

Speaker 1 RPNVs.

Speaker 3 RPNVs.

Speaker 1 That's right. Like this is how we go.
So credit Devontae Adams for holding his tongue there. The Lions, by the way, Jameer Gibbs is awesome.

Speaker 1 I love that they, like, they, I think they just decided, like, this is going to be Jameer Gibbs' coming out party. We're going to game plan everything.
He was sensational.

Speaker 1 And the Lions, it felt like they corrected, like, they should have won by more. They still have some things to clean up.

Speaker 1 But you obviously needed to see a win after that Ravens loss and especially them going into the bye week. And don't wear those jerseys anymore.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they're gross. The 50 Shades of Gray ones.

Speaker 3 I didn't really like their throwback helmets either.

Speaker 1 No. I like the Lions.
The Lions have great uniforms. The Lions' normal

Speaker 3 jerseys are their throwback uniforms. I feel like they haven't changed that much in the last 30 years.
But they got... There were some bad plays by the Lions in the red zone.

Speaker 3 Jared threw that one pick six, and then his next pass, I think, went... I think he threw it out of bounds and tried to hit the mascot with it, the next throwaway that he had.
So the pick six was bad.

Speaker 3 Was it Reynolds that got tackled? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, he made a great catch, and then he just fumbled the ball.

Speaker 3 There's no physical way that the human body can.

Speaker 3 Not Reynolds, and which was a running back that got tackled and fumbled, and you couldn't see the replay.

Speaker 1 That might have been Jameer Gibbs. Yeah, where they kept on zooming in, and they're like, is the shin there?

Speaker 3 There's the shin. The way that the human body is built, there's no chance that he wasn't down, but they didn't have a camera angle showing that he was down.
Which is crazy.

Speaker 3 So they just gave it to the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Put sensors on everyone.

Speaker 3 Yeah, sure. Yeah, like Madden style.
Yeah. Have them all wear those suits during games, and then we can tell.
Yeah. I think maybe we're all wrong about Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 3 Maybe he is an offensive genius, but maybe there's just no players that are good enough to play football at the level that Josh McDaniels expects in order for his

Speaker 3 offense only works if it's Tom Brady and Randy Moss running it. And if it's anybody else, then it just looks like the biggest nightmare you've ever seen.

Speaker 1 So this is Josh McDaniels is actually like Van Gogh, but we've only given him a pack of crayons?

Speaker 3 I think in 200 years, we're going to look back and be like, Josh McDaniels was so far ahead of his time.

Speaker 1 A misunderstood genius.

Speaker 3 A misunderstood genius, 100%. The most misunderstood genius because that guy sucks.

Speaker 1 He sucks. He sucks.

Speaker 3 He sucks.

Speaker 1 He sucks. All right.
Anything else with trade deadlines or NFL? Max, are you sad that the Eagles did nothing?

Speaker 1 Like Kevin Bayard. All right.

Speaker 1 I was seeing if you were going to catch that. Yeah.
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 I was hoping for more. I was definitely hoping for more.

Speaker 1 Max walked by and he just goes, Patrick Sertain's going to to be an Eagle.

Speaker 1 I didn't believe that. I was just

Speaker 1 saying it. You were like, what's going to happen? I was like, maybe Patrick Sertain, Eagle.
Nothing ever happens at the NFL trade deadline.

Speaker 3 That's the one common denominator. Like, the big news that we had this year was...
like two defensive ends getting traded.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this was actually the most, this was probably the most that's happened in a trade deadline in a while because it was the commanders were like, we're trading everyone.

Speaker 3 And it wasn't just, it was Josh Harris had a big day today. Josh Harris won.
I'm going to say it.

Speaker 3 He won the sports equinox. Yeah.
Because Because he traded Sweat and Young, got a second and a third-round pick for him, which is better than some people thought that we would get.

Speaker 3 Does it make you a little bit upset that Young went for a third-rounder?

Speaker 1 No, Chase Young only has one move.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because

Speaker 3 I think Sweat's better. Yeah, I do too.
So he traded those two guys, and then he also traded James Harden. So big day for Josh Harris.
Huge day.

Speaker 3 Apparently he got on the phone with Steve Ballmer and was like, please. Please take my man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I need you to do this. So are you happy that James Harden is out of your life, Max? James Harden, by the way, was traded at 2 in the morning.
Probably the biggest win for Woge ever.

Speaker 3 Where do you think James Harden was when he found out? Strip Club? Strip Club. Strip Club for sure.

Speaker 1 I know where Woge was.

Speaker 3 They brought out like a bottle service for him in the flashing lights that just said you are an LA Clipper.

Speaker 1 I know where Woge was because I want to give credit to Woge because, you know, he's got a rivalry with Shams and I, you know, Woj getting up there in age. This was the pinnacle of Woge.

Speaker 1 This was Woge being like asserting himself, I still got it. He dropped like a a 12-minute podcast today.
So I listened on the way to work.

Speaker 1 Woge said that he was at the airport, at Newark airport, getting ready to fly to L.A.

Speaker 1 and someone told him, don't get on that flight. And he sat in the airport until like two in the morning, then went home and took a shower, and then went and took a flight the next morning.

Speaker 1 Because he didn't want to miss it. He's like, I didn't want to be on a plane when this news came down.
That is,

Speaker 1 he gets journalists of the year. It's commitment.
I mean, could you imagine anything worse than

Speaker 1 sitting at the gate of your plane ready to go and then being like, nope, I have to now sit in the airport waiting for this news to drop and then go home for 10 minutes, take a shower, and then to get on another plane.

Speaker 3 If you're Woach, was there like a small part of you that was like, man, what if, what if this flight crashes? Yeah. And I was told not to get on it because it was hard.

Speaker 1 It games hardened news. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Woach deserves the credit.

Speaker 1 Got it. Two in the morning.

Speaker 3 Good for Woach. He absolutely deserves it.
And then Shams woke up, and I think he had to tack on

Speaker 3 usually like six hours late on the news.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Shams is never going to sleep again. Yeah.
He's going to become an insomniac. You can't do that.
Like, Woach just, he basically said, hey, I ain't going anywhere. This is my block.

Speaker 3 James Harden individually has done so much for Woach's career just with all the trades and trade demands that he's made over the years.

Speaker 1 So that was my question. Is James Harden...

Speaker 1 Like, he's not the GOAT, but he's got GOAT tendencies because he somehow has gotten traded now three times where everyone's like, he's got no leverage he's lost all his leverage he

Speaker 3 he deserves at least respect for being how bad of like a teammate and employee he is right yeah like he's the goat at that and he also eats everything like a goat i think that he's done a great job of forcing his way out of teams in new and creative ways this one we everyone was like no he's got no leverage daryl morry would never trade him he'll he'll always wait for the deal what are we one week into the season his leverage was like that guy's a liar i'm gonna go to china put on a basketball camp and call my boss a liar and that's the last move that I have.

Speaker 3 And it worked.

Speaker 1 And Dale Mori probably was like, oh, Tyrese Maxie's playing really well, and this team could be good. And you know what?

Speaker 1 The only thing that could ruin it is having James Harden hang out in their locker room. Yeah.
So I have a smart move by them.

Speaker 3 I have a question for you, big cat. Yeah.
Right now, LA Clippers, they've got Kawhi. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Super team.

Speaker 3 They've got Westbrook. Super team.
They've got playoff P, Paul Joyce, who's, by the way, getting back on his bullshit this year.

Speaker 3 And now they add the final piece in James Harden. My question for you is,

Speaker 3 how many balls are there?

Speaker 1 There's only one ball.

Speaker 3 There's just one ball. This team is loaded.
This team is hilarious. They need to bring John Wall back.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to watch this team win one playoff series, have all VSPN be like, watch out for the Clippers, and then lose like four to one against the Nuggets.

Speaker 3 I don't even know if they're going to win one playoff series.

Speaker 1 They might win one. They're given one just because I want to see it for the Discord.

Speaker 3 They're the funniest team in the NBA by far. I don't think that there's a close second either.

Speaker 1 And I don't think Westbrook and Harden like each other anymore. Remember when they played briefly again? Was it with the Rockets? I can't keep track.

Speaker 3 I would be shocked if they like each other.

Speaker 3 Or I tell you what, they'll probably say all the right things, do all the right things. They'll be like, uh-oh, this is Title Town.
Watch out. We got a super team.

Speaker 3 And then things will blow up within probably a month or two, I would imagine.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it does feel like...

Speaker 1 I mean, playoff P is basically the guy that you need to like, he's got to be the glue guy. Yeah.
I think he does because you have Kawhi, who we know his history.

Speaker 1 He's a robot, but the robot sometimes malfunctions. And then Westbrook and Harden, yeah, playoff P has to sit everyone down and be like, I'm the captain.

Speaker 3 But as a robot, do you think that Kawhi is kind of built for this type of situation? Where if

Speaker 3 you are a computer program, you don't care who's entering the code.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You don't care who's pushing the buttons. You just take the input and then you do your thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, Balmer just has to like go into the mainframe and say, pass the ball to James Harden now. Yeah.
Or Bluewise, like, okay, I got it.

Speaker 3 Blue screen to death on Kawhi.

Speaker 1 The other big part of this trade and a hilarious part is

Speaker 1 your guy, Max, Firkan Corkmez.

Speaker 1 You love him, right?

Speaker 3 He's fine.

Speaker 1 Corkmez is the direct opposite of James Harden because he has now asked for a trade from the Sixers three times and been denied every single time.

Speaker 1 So in 2018, he asked for a trade because he didn't get playing time. They're like, nah, we're not going to do it.
In 2023, last winter, January, he asked for a trade.

Speaker 1 They're like, nah, we're not going to do it. Cork Mez, you're here forever.
This time, he asked for a trade and both the Clippers and Sixers said no. That's tough.
That's tough.

Speaker 1 What's going on with this guy?

Speaker 3 I don't know, but you got to see Harden getting traded. And you're like,

Speaker 3 why wouldn't you do that for me? I want everything for me.

Speaker 1 I don't think I've ever seen a guy just keep asking for trades and the Sixers are like, after the 2018, he re-signed with the Sixers. This poor guy.

Speaker 1 I've also never seen a bench player ask for a trade so many times, like, and never seen a guy ask for a trade, and both sides say no.

Speaker 1 I guess you should be happy that the Sixers said no because that means they want him, but the Clippers were like, No, we don't want him.

Speaker 3 So, he set up the trade.

Speaker 1 He wanted, he was like, Throw me in this James Harden trade, and both sides are like, No, thank you.

Speaker 3 No, you're too you will, you will blow up this deal if you're you're in it.

Speaker 1 That's tough, but that's, I mean, the poor guy.

Speaker 3 So, I'm starting to think more about the Clippers losing the first round take. James Harden, when he was on the Nets,

Speaker 3 he wasn't the primary ball handler, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they had the season where

Speaker 1 Kyrie got hurt, and then the game against game seven against the Bucs in the second round, the Kevin Durant almost single-handedly got them there. But James Harden had also gotten hurt that series.

Speaker 1 He was playing okay up until then.

Speaker 3 We're also forgetting that James Harden in the playoffs is not, he doesn't want to play anymore.

Speaker 1 What if James wants to go home? He gets some good games. What if James?

Speaker 3 Yeah, but he maxed out the thing about James James Harden. He does not care about winning championships.
And I'm not saying this is a bad thing about James Harden.

Speaker 3 I'm saying it's somewhat relatable, where you get paid less money in the playoffs. There's no real incentive to win unless you're a guy that cares about winning.

Speaker 3 James Harden, I think, does not care about winning NBA titles. He just wants to go home.

Speaker 3 He's done his bid. His season's over.
He fulfilled his contract that year. Now he wants to go hang out and party.
Like, I get it. I get why James Harden does it.

Speaker 3 I feel like most professional athletes that are that good are not wired like that. They're wired to want to compete and win.
But James Harden, I feel like, is just like, you know what?

Speaker 3 I'd rather just go hang out on my couch.

Speaker 1 It would rule if James Harden was awesome in the mid-season tournament because he's not at the end of the year. Yeah.
And he was just like the greatest mid-season tournament player of all time.

Speaker 3 He might be because those that counts as a regular season game, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's right in the middle of the season. You don't have to worry about getting on a yacht.
He's good. So you're good.
You're happy, obviously, Max.

Speaker 1 You got some, you got some flexibility, too. You got picks.
You got picks. You got picks.
So somebody comes available at some point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got bait him.

Speaker 1 The only thing I woke up and I was upset because it was kind of like a strong arm of like Darren Morray was like, I'm not going to trade him without Terrence Mann.

Speaker 1 And the Clippers were like, well, we're not giving up Terrence Mann. And I don't like

Speaker 1 not winning that battle. You got,

Speaker 1 like, at the end of the day, you got four picks. I guess you got a couple depth pieces.
Rocco's not the player that he once was, but you got a bully. Morris is a bully.
Yeah, you got a dog.

Speaker 1 You know, I think that's all he does.

Speaker 1 But that's fine.

Speaker 1 That's an intimidating lineup if you can put Pat Bev and Morris. I think it's

Speaker 1 Marcus Morris on the floor.

Speaker 1 The goal is, though, to put the ball in the hoop. Yeah, but you like some intimidation.
He's like 100 years old.

Speaker 1 But he is a bully. I agree.

Speaker 3 Max, he's a dog, but now you got two dogs.

Speaker 1 Max, you're building a football team for basketball. That's fine.
And you got assets if someone else becomes available in the middle of the season, Maury can go make another play, and you have time

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 like if it waited too long and then somebody came up and then you didn't have any assets then you wouldn't have any have any more moves left in the chamber sixers sixers could be back and tyrese maxi's mvp that's the that's the end of the the the whole story is that tyrese maxi is playing like an all-star right now but you already have an mvp i know but like on your team right now what if you you could have two No, you only have one.

Speaker 1 Well, you could have one last year and then one this year. Right, but last year was kind of was he really the MVP? Yeah, he was.
Okay. The answer is yes.

Speaker 3 The real test is, it's always like coming from your direct opponent. Like, are you more fearful of the Sixers this year, Hank?

Speaker 1 Or would you be... No!

Speaker 3 Would you be more fearful?

Speaker 1 Hank's living in Porzingus heavenly.

Speaker 3 If they still had

Speaker 3 James Harden, would you be more fearful?

Speaker 1 What? Hank's got no rings, he said. 2008?

Speaker 1 He just farted on the big three. I was a freshman in high school.
He just farted on it. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, you're acting like the Celtics are this sick team.
You haven't won shit yet.

Speaker 1 The Sixers haven't won anything. Neither are the Celtics.

Speaker 1 Okay, but the question was, are you scared of the Sixers?

Speaker 3 Are you more scared of them now than you were 24 hours ago?

Speaker 1 Well, he wasn't scared of them 24 hours ago, so how could he be more scared?

Speaker 1 But you're less scared. You can't be less scared.
No way. You can't be less.

Speaker 1 It can be the same.

Speaker 1 James Harden won a game for them in the playoffs against the Celtics.

Speaker 1 Maybe he's less scared. Batum is not going to do that.
The four picks that are probably going to amount amount to nothing are not going to do that. But it's not hard to say.

Speaker 1 One game won for them last year, and you were like, You can't do this after everything bad that you say about James Harden.

Speaker 1 You can't say, like, James Harden sucks. James Harden sucks.
And then you now are like, well, James Harden won a game for you guys last week. But, like, I'm less scared because

Speaker 1 he has the chance to beat us in a, you know.

Speaker 1 But he was never going to play.

Speaker 3 I think Hank's less scared. I believe him.

Speaker 1 I believe him, too. He seems less scared.
He's not, though.

Speaker 3 He seems like Hank was terrified yesterday.

Speaker 1 And yeah, Porzingus is.

Speaker 1 The Celtics are unbelievable. I got home last night.
It was like 6.20. It's kind of weird Central Time getting home.
I forget. I'm like, oh, yeah, Celtics are on.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, shit, the game's already on. It was already over.
First quarter, Wizards.

Speaker 1 40 points.

Speaker 1 Jordan Poole just shoots up everything. The Wizards, I mean, it's obviously the Wizards.
poverty franchise.

Speaker 3 You don't have to say that part of it. You can just say Jordan Poole is.
Jordan Poole is the perfect player to have on your team if you're trying to tank.

Speaker 3 To have him as like the guy on your team, it doesn't get any better than that.

Speaker 1 Are you scared of Tyrese Maxie? No. Why?

Speaker 1 What's there to be scared of?

Speaker 1 He's emerging as one of the

Speaker 1 guards in the NBA.

Speaker 1 Now he has the opportunity that that backcourt is his. Oh,

Speaker 1 good point.

Speaker 3 I feel like the last year and a half, Max is just, he's like trying to make fetch happen. He's like, Tyrese Maxie, MVP.

Speaker 1 Emerging.

Speaker 1 Now, like, this is real. No, he is playing incredible.
This is real. I I know he has started the ball.
He was the Eastern Conference Player of the Week. Yeah.
Of the week.

Speaker 1 First week. There's only been one week.
Hang the ball of the week. Hang the ball.
There's only been one week. If the MVP was given out today, he would win it.

Speaker 1 That's actually a fact, or at least in the Eastern Conference. Yeah, Hank.
He's in the Eastern Conference Player of the Week MVP.

Speaker 3 Hank was not scared until he said he's the player of the week. And now

Speaker 1 I saw some fear creep out. Max, you got to go back to the drawing board on that.
No, no. Anytime you do a player of the week, it's not crazy.
But

Speaker 1 that's all you can base it off of. Right.
What we have seen so far this year, Tyrese Maxie is the best player in the Eastern Conference. Fact or fiction.

Speaker 1 Probably fiction. Fact or fiction.
Well, no. On the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 1 That is fact. You're wrong, Hank.
Weak.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Razul Douglas, by the way, just got traded to the Bills. That's a good pickup for the Bills.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Okay. Little baseball, choose your own adventure.
World Series going on. There were people who were upset at me for watching Monday Night Football.

Speaker 1 I was also watching the World Series, but the World Series is going on. Rangers Diamondbacks, choose your own adventure.

Speaker 3 PFT go. Diamondbacks win.
Garcia's got an oblique. He does.
He's not going to play tonight. Is that official? No, I'm just making this up right now, but this is choose your own adventure.
Yep.

Speaker 3 He's not going to play.

Speaker 3 Doesn't want to win. A real gamer would play through it.
Dan Heron cooks up something special.

Speaker 1 I think so, too. I'm going to say it's a shootout.
Oh. Yeah.
I think it's going to be 10-8 diamondbacks. Okay.
Game 4, ten, eight diamondbacks.

Speaker 1 Um, if anything crazy happens, we will uh record something if anything crazy happens. If there's like a you'll have known something, well, yeah, you'll have known because we'll put it in.

Speaker 1 Uh, if there's like a no-hitter in the World Series, that that would be crazy.

Speaker 3 That would be crazy.

Speaker 1 It's been almost a year since that's happened.

Speaker 3 I think it's going to be 8-1 D-backs. Whoa, I think Fam goes yard twice.
Whoa, Longoria has two hits.

Speaker 1 Whoa, Hank.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go

Speaker 1 six 6-5 in the 14th. What?

Speaker 1 Wait, but that might be crazy.

Speaker 1 I don't want to stay up that late. Who wins?

Speaker 1 D-Bax. D-Bax.
Well, if it's a walk-off, it's D-Bax. True.
It's on me. Yeah.
Walk-off, D-Bax. I knew they were out of home.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You've been tuned in.

Speaker 3 Is the roof open?

Speaker 1 No. It's closed.
They've been closing it, I think. Okay, I don't like that.
Yeah, I don't need it.

Speaker 1 And also, the dehumidifier thing they did with the Diamondbacks, I don't like that either. They did it a few years ago.
Everyone stopped hitting home runs. I don't like it.

Speaker 3 I did. I saw Randy Johnson threw out the first pitch yesterday.
That's cool. It was very cool.

Speaker 1 Two Luis Gonzalez.

Speaker 3 Two Luis Gonzalez. It was wild.

Speaker 3 I was hoping so hard for a bird. Yeah.
That would have rocked.

Speaker 1 Did you see that? I kind of forgot that the Yankees had a 3-2 lead going into the ninth of that game. I thought it was tied.

Speaker 1 I watched an old video. Young Kim?

Speaker 1 Oh, you're talking about 2001? Yeah, no, they should have won that World Cup. They were up 3-2.
Yes. Yes.
Going into the 9th. 9-11.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Should we have the robot umps discussion? There were some bad calls yesterday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there were, but some of them are. I always think they even them out.

Speaker 1 I saw someone was saying that there is the technology they're working on that

Speaker 1 you can basically tap your helmet and they can go check it real quick so it doesn't slow down the game, which I'm in favor of.

Speaker 3 The immediate review for it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the immediate review. But then, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I like the human element of umpiring.

Speaker 3 I do like getting mad at umps.

Speaker 1 And I also like getting, you know, you start a game. It's like, okay, this is the strike zone.
Now we've got to adjust. You know, it's not uniform across the board.

Speaker 3 It does add to the gamesmanship.

Speaker 3 If you're like planning out how you're going to attack somebody at the plate and you know that this one-up has like a very wide strike zone, then you can you can pitch them accordingly.

Speaker 3 That's how the Atlanta Braves won so many games. Yeah.

Speaker 3 They had Eric Gregg calling pitches like three inches off the plate every day. So Maddox would get up there and just be like, okay,

Speaker 1 backdoor cutter. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm a firm believer that if you can add replay without slowing down the game whatsoever, which is basically impossible, then I'm for it.

Speaker 1 But it's impossible. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I do like the idea that you can get mad at somebody and blame a loss on somebody.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's always right. If you take it away, then you don't have anything to get mad at.
All right. Let's talk some college football.
Before we do that, man, I'll tell you what.

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It's like the MVP of candy bars.

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Speaker 4 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's talk some college football.

Speaker 1 The college football playoff rankings are coming out.

Speaker 1 We are taping this earlier. It's Halloween.

Speaker 1 So I I got to go do Halloween with my kids. I don't think there's the first rankings are always funny because people freak out.
There's still so much football left to be played.

Speaker 1 If I had to take a guess, I would think that Ohio State will be one, and then it'll be Georgia and Michigan in a two-three. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Probably Georgia, then Michigan, and then four would be Florida State. Five would be Washington.
It would be my guess.

Speaker 1 Ohio State only because they do probably have the best resume on paper with a Penn State win and a Notre Dame Road win.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so that's probably going to be the only debate. I think it might be Georgia, but I would be shocked.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think Ohio State's better than Georgia. They're just saying resume-wise.

Speaker 3 They put these rankings out knowing that people get mad about numbers, and then there's a lot of season left, and they know that if a certain team, like if Georgia beats Alabama, then Georgia is probably going to become the number one team in the entire country.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 And I, yeah, it could very well be that Ohio State, they could just go exactly as the AP top 25 or the coaches poll, where it's Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, Florida State, Washington straight down in a row.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be surprised if they do that as well.

Speaker 1 I just think that if you're just looking at resumes, Ohio State having that win at Notre Dame and against Penn State is better than what any win Michigan's done so far and Georgia,

Speaker 1 yeah, and Georgia.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I want to see simulated brackets for next year. That's what I want to see.
It's like, what would the matchups look like right now if we were doing a 12-team playoff? Give me a simulated bracket.

Speaker 1 You're saying this year for next year. This year for next year.
Because next year, this is the last one. This is the last four-team playoff.
Thank God we're going to get to the 12-team playoff.

Speaker 1 I'm excited, though. And

Speaker 1 I think I talked about it on this show. I did officially switch my Washington future to Oregon before last weekend.

Speaker 1 I do think Oregon, what they did in Utah on Saturday, like that doesn't happen to Utah. They bullied them.
Yeah, they bullied them.

Speaker 3 Oregon, it's weird because even though they lost to Washington, they look like they're the best team in that conference right now.

Speaker 3 Because Washington has had, what, is it two weeks in a row where they've had these wins that feel like, holy shit, I can't believe we got out of there with a win.

Speaker 1 Arizona stayed at home and Stanford on the road, they both were like one-score games in the fourth quarter, and it feels like something's a little off. They have a few big games coming up.

Speaker 1 I, though,

Speaker 1 this weekend coming up, obviously everyone's going to talk about Bama LSU, which, fun trivia fact, you ready for this?

Speaker 1 The last, so Jaden Daniels obviously beat Nick Saban last year when Alabama went to Baton Rouge. Who is the last quarterback to beat Nick Sabin two years in a row?

Speaker 3 Two years in a row.

Speaker 1 Same quarterback, two years in a row.

Speaker 3 Joe didn't do it.

Speaker 1 Jamarcus Russell.

Speaker 3 Who else is Aaron Brown? Tebow. Matt Flynn.

Speaker 3 Cam Newton.

Speaker 1 Oh. We're not close.
We're not close. The bathtub.

Speaker 1 Aaron Murray. Nope.
His name was Drew Brees at Purdue.

Speaker 3 Wow. So when he was at Purdue, Purdue State.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 When Saban was at Purdue? Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. Isn't that crazy, that is wild.
So Jaden Daniel is looking to be that

Speaker 1 second guy to beat Nick Saban two years in a row. That's shocking.

Speaker 3 But I guess if you're a good college quarterback and you happen to be good enough to beat Nick Saban, you're probably going to go to the NFL this weekend.

Speaker 1 Or you'll come back and Nick Saban will beat you. Yeah.
Because he doesn't lose to teams twice in a row.

Speaker 3 Or Nick Saban will have moved to a different school. Yes.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so obviously everyone's talking about Bama LSU this weekend, which will be a great game.

Speaker 1 I'm pumped for the Big 12 this weekend. Big 12 is going to.
Big 12 12 is the funnest conference in the country.

Speaker 1 It was basically the entire Big 12 looked like garbage in September, and now all these teams are playing incredible ball. And you have Kansas State going to Texas.
You have Oklahoma, Oklahoma State.

Speaker 1 Oklahoma State was dead in September, and now they're back playing good ball. Like Kansas beating Oklahoma last week.
It's just utter chaos in the Big 12.

Speaker 1 And now we have a weekend where we're going to kind of try to figure everything out.

Speaker 3 Who did Oklahoma State lost lost to

Speaker 3 a Sunbelt school in week one, right?

Speaker 1 Oklahoma State, I don't know. I know Iowa State's also in that category because Iowa State is 4-1 in the conference.
They lost to Ohio. Remember when Matt Campbell was getting yelled at by fans?

Speaker 1 They lost to Oklahoma State lost to South Alabama week three.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So my only qualm with the Big 12 schedule this weekend is Oklahoma, Oklahoma State.

Speaker 1 I know you're going to say this and I agree.

Speaker 3 They're playing it at 3.30 in the afternoon Eastern.

Speaker 3 That game, Bedlam, should be played at night. It should be played at night.
I say it every year.

Speaker 3 The sky in Stillwater, Oklahoma is the darkest sky in the world. It's neon black.
The atmosphere at Bedlam at nighttime is crazy. That game should be at night.
Agreed.

Speaker 3 This is the last time they're going to do Bedlam for a long time, right?

Speaker 3 In the foreseeable future, and we're getting it in the afternoon. It's standing.
That's an abomination to God.

Speaker 1 I saw it, and I had the exact same feeling of you. I got instantly bummed out.
I was like, why is this game at 2.30?

Speaker 3 That That sucks. That makes no sense.
But shout out to Kansas.

Speaker 3 Do you think that was the win against Oklahoma? That might have been the biggest win in the history of Kansas football?

Speaker 1 Well, that win against

Speaker 1 Texas.

Speaker 3 I'm not counting that because

Speaker 3 Kansas didn't have a very good team.

Speaker 3 Their team's good this year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, and they're doing it with their backup quarterback who stayed. He lost the job and stayed.
I think he's a sixth-year beard, I believe is his name is. That was awesome.

Speaker 1 They had not beaten Oklahoma in forever. I don't even know the last time they beat Oklahoma.
I'm actually going to look it up because I think it's something insane.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that was an awesome, awesome game. Lance Leipold is an awesome coach.
He won a million games at Whitewater. He went to Buffalo, now at Kansas.
But yeah, the Big 12 is fun.

Speaker 1 There's just a bunch of teams that are all kind of, were kind of written off for various reasons, poor play, injuries. And everyone's like, oh, it's going to be Texas.
It's going to be Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 And now we get a weekend where it's like, it could very well not. Like I could see Oklahoma State beating Oklahoma.
I could beat Kansas State beating Texas. It could all upend.

Speaker 3 Do we know what's happening with Quinn Ewers? Is he on track to play this weekend? I think that he is, right?

Speaker 1 I believe so. All right.
This is the longest.

Speaker 3 Okay, as of right now, Malik Murphy is in line to start against Kansas State.

Speaker 1 They killed BYU, but

Speaker 1 he's not as good as Quinn Ewers. It had been the first time Kansas had beaten Oklahoma since 1999, so this century.

Speaker 3 That's crazy.

Speaker 3 But yeah, Quinn Ewers being out against Kansas State is a big deal. Malik Murphy, he's playing right now for the transfer window.
Yeah. For the portal.
Yeah. That's what he's playing for.

Speaker 3 It's weird they just don't.

Speaker 1 I get it. Arch is a big name, but like I feel like no one's even talked about it.
Like it's not even floated out there that he could potentially. Oh, it was last week.
It was?

Speaker 3 Yeah. So he was in line to take some snaps.
He's ready to go. But like Malik Murphy, I still pay attention to like Austin Sports Talk Radio because I listened to it for like 10 years.

Speaker 3 So So I'm not a Longhorns fan, but I am a fan of the takes around the program. It's like endlessly fascinating to me, the stuff that goes on at the University of Texas.

Speaker 3 Murphy, a lot of people were saying like was better than Quinn Ewers when he got on campus. And they've been asking to see Malik Murphy.

Speaker 3 I think what we've seen is that Murphy's not as good, but if he plays well this weekend, then next year there's going to be some football team that's going to be very, very excited to have Malik Murphy.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Kansas State's really good.

Speaker 1 They're successfully pulling off a two-quarterback offense with Will Howard and Avery Johnson.

Speaker 3 I love that.

Speaker 1 And they're just a good team. Yeah, the Big 12 is the most fun conference.
I think it will be going forward, too, because you have all these weird teams that are getting added who have been added.

Speaker 1 But it's a big weekend coming up. It's a big weekend coming up.

Speaker 1 I feel like we're going to get, you know, if LSU can somehow take down Alabama and Tuscaloosa, they're now very much back in the picture.

Speaker 1 And then the entire Big 12 is going to get figured out. You have the USC Washington game, which should have like a billion points.
Because USC,

Speaker 1 they were very close to being like, this team has fully quit. And I didn't really like,

Speaker 1 there was a quote afterwards, Caleb Williams.

Speaker 3 I don't think their team has quit. I feel like their defense has quit.

Speaker 1 I think maybe their whole team, like they,

Speaker 1 I mean, their defense maybe hasn't quit because they've always been bad. So they're just playing the same.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Lincoln Riley's kind of a genius because he can kind of just get into a situation where he will never be on the hot seat, but his defensive coordinator will always be on the hot seat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Alex Grinch.

Speaker 1 Cale Williams said after the Cal game, I had a few mistakes in the Notre Dame game, dumb passes that I threw.

Speaker 1 Last week, I had a 70% completion or something like that. This is talking about the game against Utah.
So I had one off day in the past three years.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 Maybe just. That's what Ryan Day said, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe just be like, you know what? We win as a team, we lose as a team. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 I love the report that he's trying to get equity in an NFL team that drafts him. Yeah.
That's never going to happen. Never.
Never going to happen.

Speaker 3 If the Chiefs weren't going to give Patrick Mahomes equity with his long-term deal, I think the NFL stepped in and said this can't happen in general.

Speaker 3 But yeah, for a rookie to come in and become the owner of a team would be ridiculous. But my favorite story in college football just got another wrinkle.
Oh, it's. Connor Stallion story.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 This might be. It's like this and then the pole assassin story from Texas from a couple years ago at Halloween.
My two favorite stories in the the history of college football. Connor Stallions was.

Speaker 1 Oh, you got to throw in

Speaker 1 our guy, the shark fucker. Oh, yeah, yeah, McAwen.

Speaker 3 Well, he's involved in this, too.

Speaker 1 And Bobby Petrino, just Bobby Petrino, just him.

Speaker 3 Putting on the neck brace.

Speaker 1 Everything was.

Speaker 3 I mean, Hugh Freeze coaching from the hospital bed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, college football delivers. It's good.
It always delivers.

Speaker 3 It's good. So Connor Stallions was photographed, or there was a still shot of him during the broadcast on the sidelines of the CMU Michigan State game.
Allegedly, it's him.

Speaker 1 There was also one from a few years ago, yeah.

Speaker 3 And he's dressed up. He's wearing sunglasses.
He's got a little goatee going, got his hat pulled down real low.

Speaker 3 He's wearing what appears to be a sideline pass, like a pass that you would get if you were attending the game as a fan, maybe not as a coach. And he's hanging out on the sidelines, allegedly...

Speaker 3 trying to steal Michigan State signs, maybe passing Michigan State signs along to the CMU staff because he does have, I think there are two coaches on CMU right now that he coached with in his past or that he was around in his past.

Speaker 3 So this story continues to get funnier and funnier and funnier to the point where it honestly wouldn't shock me if Stallions was like Jim Harbaugh's illegitimate son that he had 30 years ago and kept secret for so long just to bring along with the sole mission of making Michigan football national champions.

Speaker 1 That's exactly what he is.

Speaker 1 So the only issue with the picture is I think the guy has hair in this picture. Connor Stallions doesn't.
Either way, it's very funny that now Connor Stallions is Kaiser Soze.

Speaker 1 Every fan base that hates Michigan will see Connor Stallions in every picture they look at and be like, he was here. Even so, the

Speaker 1 report about Ryan Day's brother, who I think he was in the CIA, and I think he does have a private investigating firm, but I think a Michigan fan just started the rumor that he was the one investigating the whole thing.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think that's actually factual. I love that.

Speaker 1 and so all of these, like, all of these stories, you could just say Connor Stallion did this, that. Where was he on January 6th? We don't know.
We don't know at all. Right.

Speaker 1 He's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's such a funny, and the story is going to flip-flop like 17 more times.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there was, um, somebody made the point that if, so CMU said that they're investigating whether or not that was him on the sidelines.

Speaker 3 It seems to me that if CMU saw the picture and recognized him as a member of their staff, they would just be like, no, that's our coach. Right.
Like, I know exactly who that guy is.

Speaker 1 You could look it up.

Speaker 3 The investigation should probably take no longer than 30 minutes.

Speaker 1 Does anyone know this guy?

Speaker 3 Who that is? Yeah. Hey, coach, do you know this guy?

Speaker 1 Who brought this guy to the party?

Speaker 3 And then bring any chicks? Exactly. Yeah.
Exactly. The fact that they haven't said that tells me it probably is.
And I just love the story.

Speaker 3 So I'm just glad that Connor Stallions, I'm glad that he developed an insane fixation on Michigan football instead of politics or religion. Yes.

Speaker 3 Because this would be very bad for the world if he wasn't just a college football freak.

Speaker 1 Or like

Speaker 1 if he was like an incel, it could have been very bad.

Speaker 3 Yeah, this could have gone so far. We should thank our lucky stars every day that Connor Stallions chose to wrote his 500-page manifesto on college football.

Speaker 1 Right. And we also have had Jim Harbaugh finally spoke and he gave some great Jim Harbaugh quotes.
So this is one of them. He said,

Speaker 1 Jim Harbaugh says Michigan football is like field corn instead of a house plant. He said, quote, house plants, they have their functions.
They can be beautiful in the home.

Speaker 1 They can bring great beauty and value to a home.

Speaker 1 But the field corn, just drop a seed in a crack of a sidewalk and it will burrow down and come up with energy, then rise up in a stock-like fashion and start producing.

Speaker 1 So that is what Michigan football is right now.

Speaker 1 He also said,

Speaker 1 I just channel my inner William Wallace when it comes to keeping a one-track mind focusing on football instead of everything else on the field. Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that all checks out for Jim. I like the fact that he's become a corn expert, at least a field corn expert.
Yep. My theory is that Harbaugh knows everything about Michigan football.
Yes.

Speaker 3 At one point, he probably looked up what the word maize went because they're the maize in blue, found out it had something to do with corn, and then did a deep dive on corn.

Speaker 3 Realized that corn is gritty, can grow anywhere. He's like, okay, that's why that's our color.
Yes. That's how come he knows so much about corn.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. So he's, the whole thing is great.
The story is incredible. We also had the conclusion, the sad conclusion to the race of 325 with Brian Ference

Speaker 1 is going to continue coaching the rest of this year, and then he's been fired slash is walking away. I don't like that.

Speaker 3 I don't like the pre-firing. I don't like anything.

Speaker 1 It would be great, though, if he just ripped off a bunch of scores here.

Speaker 3 What if they averaged 50 points a game for their last games?

Speaker 3 It's in his contract, right? He can say, hey, we won this many games.

Speaker 3 I brought my average up. And if he shows that he's improving at the end of of the season, then his dad might just be like, yeah, you know what? You're my best boy.

Speaker 3 He's really come into himself recently.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But yeah, it is sad to see because I was actually hoping that Iowa was going to somehow make,

Speaker 3 against all odds, make the college football playoff, averaging like 12 points a game. It would have been great.

Speaker 1 It would have been great.

Speaker 1 Okay, so college football this weekend is going to tell us a lot. Very excited for it.
Let's, what do you got? One last thing?

Speaker 3 Yeah, one last thing. We have a new record speaking of Iowa football, the lowest over-under total in the history of college football.

Speaker 1 At Wrigley.

Speaker 3 At Wrigley Field.

Speaker 1 I might go.

Speaker 3 You should. I'm going to bet the over.
I bet the over when it was the previous lowest total against Minnesota. I think it was 30.5.
It was 32.5. 32.5.
This is 29.5, right?

Speaker 1 29 and a half.

Speaker 3 It's northwestern Iowa. I think I have to go to this game.

Speaker 3 When is this game? It's Saturday. It's Saturday.
You want to go?

Speaker 1 At Wrigley. Yeah.
You want to go? Let's all bet the over. They finally

Speaker 1 drive to Indiana to bet it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'll drive to Indiana and bet it. You will.

Speaker 1 That's the only part. I'm Northwestern.
This is a 20-minute drive.

Speaker 3 This is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever done. And I flew to Qatar for like 16 hours for a tie.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 This is dumber.

Speaker 1 This game is going to rock. And they did finally figure it out.
I was reminiscing. I'm rocking with Iowa, though.

Speaker 1 The best was when they first did a game at Wrigley, a college game at Wrigley, they did it like maybe...

Speaker 1 10, 12 years ago, and they didn't measure the end zones correctly, and they had to play the game going one way. Oh, I think it was a good idea.

Speaker 1 I think they should play this game going one way.

Speaker 1 It would be awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 5 What about pick sixes?

Speaker 1 You could pick six it, but you can't. The offense starts going one way.
That's sick. It's like a delayed penalty in hockey.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, they painted the lines and everything, and they're like, wait, the outfield wall goes right up to the end zone line. This is a problem.

Speaker 3 So what would happen if you intercepted a pass?

Speaker 1 They flip it.

Speaker 3 No, but you return, like on the interception return, you're running all the way down the field. Somebody catches up behind you, forces a fumble, and it rolls like two yards into the end zone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess it would still kind of roll out, kind of, because it would hit the wall, so they would rule it out.

Speaker 3 I'm trying to think if that's that's bad for the over, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they have figured it out. They've played games at Wrigley since that they have figured out, but that was one of the funniest things ever to play a game going one way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they should do it for this game.

Speaker 3 Game of the year.

Speaker 1 They should also play this game like on a 60-yard field.

Speaker 3 Yeah, or just give us some more points. Or just not at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not at all.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Hank, hot seat, cool thrown. My hot seat seat is the brew crew, Chris Broussard.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was on TV today talking about the James Harden trade, and he referred to him using the R-word.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 3 to be fair, he had a first cousin who was developmentally disabled. Correct.
So kind of gets a pass on that.

Speaker 1 And Stu Finer was the one who broke the story. Yeah, Stu Finer was the one that

Speaker 1 tweeted the clip, and then all the media outlets picked it up.

Speaker 1 Suspended, fired.

Speaker 1 Where does that word fall fall into the

Speaker 1 I think he's okay?

Speaker 1 It's kind of like the five-second rule with food. He said his apology within the same segment.
I think he's okay.

Speaker 1 Like, if he had not said anything and then he had to issue an apology the next day, it becomes a bigger story. He said his apology within 45 seconds of saying it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Like, the ball was still.
So no suspension. No suspension.
I don't know. I don't think he's going to get it.
He knew he didn't.

Speaker 3 He kind of wound up for it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was a hard time. I don't think it's a suspension.

Speaker 3 truss thought.

Speaker 1 And his first cousin. Yeah.
He literally immediately

Speaker 1 stinked on my feet, first cousin.

Speaker 3 Who, by the way, passed away. Yes.

Speaker 1 A month or two months ago. He didn't know.

Speaker 3 He didn't know when it was.

Speaker 1 He was like a month, two months.

Speaker 3 But as far as an excuse goes for why you said it, that might be the wildest reasoning behind why that word slipped out of your mouth. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's like, no, somebody that I love very deeply.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was calling my cousin that.

Speaker 1 I was at his funeral. He was

Speaker 1 we were dropping him left and right.

Speaker 1 What? Go ahead. If you say sorry right away, you're okay.
No, yeah, he's like, no, no, no. Don't Devontae Adams.
Don't Devontae Adams. No.
It's a trust tree.

Speaker 1 They were at the funeral talking about, damn, like,

Speaker 1 he reminds us of James Harden. Yeah, right, right.
And they were talking about how much.

Speaker 1 They were remembering him being like, yeah, he was so much like James Harden.

Speaker 3 Well, it was actually, I think he was saying it to Nick Wright because Nick Wright had a take he disagreed with. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he went like an old school.

Speaker 1 Are you?

Speaker 1 He had

Speaker 1 James Harden. No,

Speaker 1 Chris Roussard just slipped back into like sixth grade. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. It's crazy.
And then McCool Thrones getting your butthole fingered. Oh, okay.
Good. Good.
Leo DiCaprio was at a party, and there's pictures of him getting his butthole fingered. So

Speaker 1 it's the new craze.

Speaker 3 Is it the new craze?

Speaker 1 I mean, if Leo's doing it, it's kind of like.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the Shane Gill Street. Guys can't have fun anymore.
What are you making a big deal about this?

Speaker 3 I think, was that TMZ that got it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, she was like, you know, they were, she was over, under, going over the top down the pants. A little swipe.
Digging for gold.

Speaker 1 Do you guys, I don't want to, I don't, no, I don't want to bring more publicity to this, but I'll just ask it.

Speaker 1 Do you guys know Butthole Berry? No. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I know Butthole Berry.

Speaker 1 There's a guy named Butthole Berry who replies to our tweets with just his butthole. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, we don't know.

Speaker 1 I think it's his butthole because it's taken from such angles.

Speaker 1 Butthole Berry's. He's all up in the mentions.

Speaker 3 You're not going to be able to find a picture online of a Butthole from that angle.

Speaker 1 It's an 18-year-old out type shit. No, it's not.
No, I think it's a dude. Yeah, it's a dude.
I mean, it's Elon's Twitter. Elon's Twitter has become just like every day I go on,

Speaker 1 it's people arguing politics. It's some person in China getting hit by a bus.
And then it's a bunch of people being like, I'll suck your dick. I'm the hottest girl on OnlyFans.

Speaker 1 And there's Butthole Berry. PFT post on someone's leg getting cut off.
Yeah. No,

Speaker 3 it's a bad parking accident.

Speaker 1 That was violent.

Speaker 3 It was bad.

Speaker 1 I was talking about. I watched someone get shot today on Twitter.
Yeah, it's like straight up shot. And I was like, what is going on right now?

Speaker 3 And these are all coming from Billy Football's account.

Speaker 1 Also, they did the classic, which I'm happy I kind of held off on getting the verified thing, where everyone's first paycheck from tweets was like so high, and now it's nothing.

Speaker 1 I'm still getting paid. Yeah, but not

Speaker 1 when you got paid the first time. No, yeah, they potted us.
They honey potted us.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so Elon was like, I'm going to, it's basically whatever he feels on that day he's like here's the money that's going to the content pool and then the rest of it i'm just going to keep for myself um i was talking to kate the other day uh by the way congratulations congratulations to kate had her baby and the beeve pat they had their baby good job

Speaker 3 butch cassidy not not buckshot no it's buckshot buckshot cassidy buckshot alpha force cassidy not the actual name no it is that's their real name the real name actually rocks it does yeah but so so kate shot kate shot yeah kate apparently went to the liquor store the other day and she was trying to find a special ingredient for a drink.

Speaker 3 So she was telling the guy at the liquor store, hey, this is what I'm looking for.

Speaker 3 And she was pulling up a picture on her phone, scrolling through, and she showed him a picture of Butthole Berry by mistake. Yes.
Butthole Berry's butthole. Yes.
And the guy was like, what?

Speaker 3 And she was like, I swear to God, that's not my butthole. But he totally thought it was her butthole.
Yes, 100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Butthole Berry is a menace.
Menace.

Speaker 1 Memes is a menace. Memes just sent us a video of a soccer player slapping.
Oh, memes! What the fuck?

Speaker 3 It says this post has been deleted.

Speaker 1 Memes just sent us a tweet on the group chat of a dude just sliding down.

Speaker 1 It was Northwestern. He sent us Northwestern slides.

Speaker 1 It was a soccer team. You fucking.
It was trending this weekend. And Ravel's okay with that stuff.

Speaker 1 Okay, your hot seat cool torn.

Speaker 3 My hot seat is bet payoff season. So somebody reminded me yesterday on Twitter that I've got a lot of bets to repay.

Speaker 3 Maybe I haven't done a great job communicating them on when I'm going to be repaying the bets because I've hit a cold streak recently.

Speaker 3 But we will be doing the baseball challenge tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Well, that was my hot seat. So, because we initially were saying the second-place team had to catch, and then I was like, well, it would be funnier for content if PFT's pitching and I'm catching that.

Speaker 1 Don't make a joke about our relationship.

Speaker 3 I wasn't going to.

Speaker 1 So, I'm catching, and I'm going to get injured. I'm going to get injured.
We're both going to get injured. So, right now,

Speaker 3 my right shoulder is hanging on by a thread. I've got a labrum tear, a rotator coffee.

Speaker 3 No, no, it's been injured since like 2011, 2012. I've got a broken humerus at the top.
I've got a fucked up shoulder, so not looking forward to this bet. Probably going to re-injure it.

Speaker 1 Do you still throw a curve?

Speaker 3 I can throw a nasty knuckle curve.

Speaker 1 I've got to paint my fingernails for you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, please do. Tomorrow.
So we're doing that.

Speaker 1 It's also going to be like... Freezing.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's going to be sunny, though.

Speaker 1 Awesome. Oh, good.
Great.

Speaker 5 30s and sunny.

Speaker 1 And Jake, Hank, and Max are going to be the outfit. Yeah, we're ready.
I'm ready for this. I'm going to get hurt.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're both going to be hurt. This might be the end of the part of my take, actually.
There's no episode on Friday. Sorry.
But

Speaker 1 we got hurt.

Speaker 3 We got dead. Yeah, we got hurt.
We died.

Speaker 1 I'm worried.

Speaker 1 I just don't know if I can, like, squat down catcher stance for multiple innings if BFT can't get anyone out.

Speaker 3 I'm going to get everybody out.

Speaker 3 You can sit down. We need some max out.

Speaker 1 We're going to help you guys out.

Speaker 1 You think so? Yeah. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 You think you're going to be good out there? You're playing left.

Speaker 5 All right, fine.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I should say it's, it's,

Speaker 1 there's probably the best odds are

Speaker 1 ending because of injury. Yeah.
Yeah. I'd say,

Speaker 3 I'd say ending for injury minus 180.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And, and,

Speaker 1 I mean, how many times do you think they'll bat around the order? I guess that would be the other way. Yeah, what's the over-under of runs? Because we will have the team.

Speaker 1 And we're playing the Indian field, yeah. So if you can just, and it's cold, not great hitting conditions,

Speaker 1 but you're going to be pitching like me balls.

Speaker 1 The only thing that you might have in your favor is that you're pitching so slow that it's going to throw them off, and they just hit hard ground balls and they make good plays.

Speaker 3 How fast do you think I can throw?

Speaker 1 60.

Speaker 1 How many errors in the outfield?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was going to say 63.

Speaker 1 60.

Speaker 1 How many errors? A lot.

Speaker 1 We're not going. Yeah, I don't know why Jake is confident.
Yeah, like we are going to be.

Speaker 5 I mean, I'm going to misjudge some balls, but I can also.

Speaker 1 I'm going to misjudge all of them. Yeah, but that's.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to play at the wall. If you misjudge some balls,

Speaker 1 we have to get six outs. We'll get them.

Speaker 3 Okay. I think there's going to be a lot of, yeah, not necessarily errors in the outfield because an error would imply that you had to get your glove on.

Speaker 1 On the ball, yeah. You're just going to not know how to track a ball.
Yeah. And yeah, anything in the middle, like right then or left.
You should throw someone out. Yeah, you should.
I should.

Speaker 1 You should let them steal. I'm going to throw someone out.
I got to work on my pop.

Speaker 1 Your pickoff move. I'm going to work on a hidden ball trick before we play.

Speaker 3 Oh, fuck yes. We should get him actually.

Speaker 3 Can we just get multiple balls?

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm going to play.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think about a play at the play yet. Well, the new rules, they can't touch you, or else they're out.

Speaker 1 I might just reverse it and just, like, not even try to catch the ball, just run at the guy running at me.

Speaker 3 I like that. No offense, big cat, but maybe gets out of the base path.
If you get Buster Posey on a play, I'm just going to walk over and put you down like a horse.

Speaker 1 That would suck. And Jerry's going to be the ump, which will help us.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I got all the, I bought so much ump shit.

Speaker 1 He's going to look very official.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, that's going down tomorrow.

Speaker 3 I'm not super excited about it, if I'm being totally honest.

Speaker 1 But you know what?

Speaker 3 Fuck it.

Speaker 1 Let's just go out there and be like. It's for the people.
It's for the people.

Speaker 3 And then I'm going to be getting the perm and getting the tattoo on the live stream on Hank and Max's live stream. So all these bets will be paid off, but they will be paid off in the name of content.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we've basically have have to do the 24-hour streams also. Punishment me and Max have had to do, but that we've pushed off until we're able to use the full office facilities.

Speaker 1 And I've been just trying to shoehorn

Speaker 1 everything

Speaker 1 into that because I don't know what the fuck we're going to do for 24 hours. So

Speaker 1 that will come

Speaker 1 before the new year, yeah. I think soon.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Soon, soon. How soon?

Speaker 1 Soon. Two weeks.
I think we

Speaker 1 for Black Friday. Well, and I also think we figured out there's like a really good Thursday night football game game that we want you guys to miss.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's like we're going to do it, and it will end right as the Thursday Night Football game. Well, how can you? Oh, Bengals Ravens.
Yes, we wanted to be able to do that. Yeah, Bengals Ravens.

Speaker 3 We wanted you to be delirious while we recorded the show right after that.

Speaker 1 Bengals Ravens, you guys come out and the game's over. And then we do the show.
And then I have to fucking edit. Yeah.
That's the case. You can't do that.
You can't do that.

Speaker 1 Sorry, you have to do your job. But this is my, like, the whole thing is my job.

Speaker 3 Okay, so, Max, maybe you don't have to edit, but Hank definitely has to be involved in content on the show. I want delirious, very tired Hank.

Speaker 1 I want yawns. I want everything.
Where are we going to?

Speaker 3 The yawns are going to be so bad.

Speaker 1 Where are you going to what? Where are we going to be locked in? We're going to build a box. We're going to build a box.
A boo box. Yeah.
How big is this box? Big.

Speaker 1 We have a huge basketball court. Although we do have some empty rooms we could do.
Yeah. We should maybe do that.
We just put you in an empty room. There's some small empty rooms.

Speaker 1 Are you going to give us some like toys? Oh, if we just, yeah, if we just. Yeah, like a puzzle.
If we just put something over the glass doors doors in one of the conference rooms, we could do that.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think one of the podcast rooms probably. No, that's not too small.
That's not too small. That's not too small.

Speaker 5 There's the big conference room.

Speaker 1 No, that's too big. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's way too big.

Speaker 1 That's also too big. That's way too big.
It's a big room. This studio.
No. This studio is too big.
Me and Max are going to do like popcorn reading. Oh, okay.
But I think

Speaker 1 we can talk more for another time. There's popcorn reading.

Speaker 1 School. I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 How do you even popcorn reading? I know what popcorn reading is.

Speaker 5 When you're reading, and then all of a sudden you call a person's name, popcorn PFT.

Speaker 1 Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. There's only the two of you.

Speaker 1 That was going to be my thing.

Speaker 5 But then you catch the person who's not paying attention. It's basically you're just trying to rout them out to the teacher.

Speaker 1 But there's only two of you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Hank's just going to be saying popcorn max the entire time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can read better than him. All right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's your cool throne?

Speaker 3 So maybe we can take this out if we're not ready to say it on the show yet, but I think that this person's going to be on the live stream on Thursday.

Speaker 1 Yes, Clinton Portis.

Speaker 3 The other person.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 So everybody be cool.

Speaker 3 I'm trusting the listeners to be cool.

Speaker 1 No, but at least it's not. No, no, because everyone's got to wear like nice clothes Thursday night when you're watching the stream.

Speaker 3 We have to say it because

Speaker 1 brush your hair. You're going to be shy.
Take a shower.

Speaker 3 We have a very special guest that's going to watch football with us, going to sit down for an interview and part of my take on Thursday in studio.

Speaker 1 As well as Clinton Portis.

Speaker 3 As well as Clinton Portis, who I'm also very excited about.

Speaker 3 It is Tiffany Gomez.

Speaker 3 the that motherfucker's not real lady from the plane i remember

Speaker 3 picture but she's in her kitchen but she's so much more than that and i think we need to start out by remembering that everybody um she's a nice lady she's flying up to chicago uh not on american that was specified and uh she's gonna be doing an interview and and live streaming the game so everybody be cool just be cool be cool be cool be cool guys we're all cool guys right be cool we're cool Be cool, Hank.

Speaker 1 Hank, are you be cool? Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, we're going to be cool. We're going to be cool.
All right. My cool throne.
So my hot seat is having a catch tomorrow for PFT, although we're going to fucking be,

Speaker 1 we're going to crush that.

Speaker 3 I need some red man. Can we get some red man?

Speaker 1 Yes. There's a bunch of red man.

Speaker 3 I got spider attack.

Speaker 1 My cool throne is charity. So I tweeted about this the other day, but Weish Fest that is going to be in Chicago, Salt Shed on Saturday.
These are people I've been

Speaker 1 known for a very long time. Great charity.
They raise money for families battling cancer. So if you're in Chicago and you want to do something on Saturday, it's going to be sick.

Speaker 1 Natasha Bettingfield is playing. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Randy Hauser, plain white tees.

Speaker 1 So concert, college football will be on all day. It's going to be a great party.
$150 is open bar basically all day. So it's going to be a great time.

Speaker 1 I think there'll be some people from Barstool there. So please go check it out.
It is W-E-I-S-HFest.com.

Speaker 1 Help out. Yeah.
Help out. They're great people that I've known for a very long time.
So help out.

Speaker 3 Great lineup. Yes, great lineup.

Speaker 1 And you get to watch college football with an open bar at the Salt Shed, which is an awesome venue. Perfect.
Hot seat, Cool Throne, Jake.

Speaker 5 My hot seat is Dabo Swinney.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 He had a radio show where he had some words. for Tyler from Spartansburg.

Speaker 5 He's 4-4 this season. He told him he's part of the problem.
If you want to apply for my job, go for it. And good luck to you.
It was a five-minute rant. You can listen to it.

Speaker 1 It's all over. He also dropped a great,

Speaker 1 he went, Ty Lur,

Speaker 1 which is just a very, like, that's a great dad thing to do.

Speaker 3 He also said, to answer your question, I started as the lowest paid coach in this business. I worked my ass off.
I'm not going to let this smart-ass kid get on the phone and tell me how to do my job.

Speaker 3 I work for the Board of Trustees. He basically did the Dave Chappelle when Keeping It Real Goes Wrong.
I don't like people playing on my phone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it is kind of crazy. Like, Dabo, Clemson was not a national title team.
Dabo came.

Speaker 1 They won more than 10 games, whatever, however many years in a row, seven years in a row, won two national titles. Bad year.
I think he deserves at least one bad year.

Speaker 3 So Dabo is actually right with his answer, which was he raised the expectation so high that now you can't, it's impossible to fulfill your expectation unless you win a national championship.

Speaker 3 So Dabo's right in that, but it's also, it's very funny to hear Dabo Swinney say the word ass. Yes, yes.
That's my take on it.

Speaker 1 All right, your cool throne?

Speaker 5 My cool throne, well, it's kind of putting you guys on the hot seat, but Cooper Flag. He committed to Duke.
Fuck him.

Speaker 1 He's dead. Rat Tank.

Speaker 3 He's dead to me.

Speaker 1 To the Brotherhood.

Speaker 5 Duke over Utah, and we'll see him next year in Cameron Indoor.

Speaker 1 You know what? Dead to me.

Speaker 3 I think this is bigger than Duke.

Speaker 3 I think it's bigger than Duke. I think I might still be a Cooper Flag guy.

Speaker 1 I'm not for the next year. I will be when he goes pro.

Speaker 3 I think I have to root for old Cooper.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but Char, he's a hometown guy here.

Speaker 1 I don't like Cooper Flag. I do not like Cooper Flag.
All right. I'm done with Cooper Flag.

Speaker 3 He's going to be a problem. He's going to be a problem.
Cooper flag is going to be a

Speaker 1 problem. He's very big.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to hate.

Speaker 1 I'll say it. I will not hate Cooper Flag.
I'm just going to pretend he doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 You can do that for the next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to shun him. You shund him.
I'm shunning him. Can you root for the Brotherhood but not root for Duke at the same time?

Speaker 3 No. No.
All right, then I'm out.

Speaker 1 Also, very funny, like it was like Cooper Flag to the Brotherhood, and he's holding a pitchfork.

Speaker 3 The Trident, yeah. The Brotherhood was the Brotherhood.
Interesting choice there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Here he is, Ryan Whitney.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests. I think he might lead the league in pardon my take appearances, so we had to have him on in the new studio.

Speaker 1 And we have NHL Hockey is back in what, a week?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I know. We got two weeks till opening night.
Two weeks till opening night. Want to do our hockey preview,

Speaker 1 talk about the upcoming NHL season. I'll start with this.
I'm big on the Golden Knights. I think they're going to be good this year.
Yeah, Golden Knights.

Speaker 1 I don't really see any Stanley Cup hangover coming there for some reason. I talk to the guys.
They're ready to go.

Speaker 1 So I think that they're going to come out buzzing and honestly just start the season off just the way they finished last year.

Speaker 3 I also kind of like the Sharks this year. I feel like

Speaker 3 they did a good job in the offseason.

Speaker 1 I think the Sharks are really going to struggle to score goals. It could be one of the worst teams we've ever seen in modern-day NHL.

Speaker 1 We'll see how it plays out, though. You don't know, Puck.
You don't puck. All right, so obviously this season started, which is how we do our previews.

Speaker 1 This is early, actually, for us. This is early.
This is early. But we also were like, hey, we're opening a new studio.

Speaker 1 I do think that you are the number one guest on this show.

Speaker 1 So speaking of the new season, from a player's perspective, when does the new season feel like you're really in it?

Speaker 1 When does the panic of we're really good or really bad actually start? Because, you know, like baseball, it's usually somewhere around July.

Speaker 1 NFL, it's right around now where teams trade deadline, figuring out what they are. What is it for hockey?

Speaker 1 If I was a super informed guest, and by the way, what an honor.

Speaker 1 I think we said it last time: like, number one sports podcast to be the most, the guest that's on the most, like, that's kind of that'll go down on my resume when it's all said and done.

Speaker 1 So, thank you, boys.

Speaker 3 It is an honor, yeah. You're right, and you're welcome to big time.
So, how what percentage of Pink Whitney should we get then? Because you've done so much promotion on our show through the future.

Speaker 1 Talk to your boy Dave because now he fucking owns everything. So

Speaker 1 ask him. Okay.

Speaker 3 I'll buy it from you for a dollar.

Speaker 1 Do you just get a check every month? Every quarter.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's sick. That is kind of nice.
That's fucking sick.

Speaker 3 I drive past a Pink Whitney billboard.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's so many ways. Both of you guys are making way more than me.
So if we want to do this talk, we could talk. That's probably

Speaker 3 some money. He's right.

Speaker 1 We actually. Yeah, let's drop it.
We gave away our game checks for the next year.

Speaker 1 All right, wait. So back to the question.
When does the NHL season start?

Speaker 1 For real. I wish I had the exact numbers, and if I was an informed guest, I would.
But American Thanksgiving is the time when you know.

Speaker 1 And by that, I mean I'm pretty sure that if you're not in the playoffs come American Thanksgiving, you're like, you've got a 10% chance of getting in.

Speaker 1 Like, the numbers are crazy how it ends up working out. So while there's some panic for a team like myself, the Edmonton Oilers, I'm an Edmonton Oilers Super fan, once an Oiler, always an Oiler.

Speaker 1 There's some worry, but it's not too late as of right now, right? I think every team's played between seven and ten games.

Speaker 1 So obviously, there's some sketchy starts out there for some what were thought to be really good teams.

Speaker 1 But once we get to American Thanksgiving, that's when you look at the standings and you can actually figure out: like, there might be one or two teams that aren't in right now that get in, but this will probably be the top eight in each conference.

Speaker 1 Wait, the Oilers stink.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we are now

Speaker 1 a new team.

Speaker 1 We won the Heritage Classic. We smacked around the Calgary Flames, who suck.
Wait, when was the Heritage Classic? Heritage Classic was Saturday night where the Edmonton.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. They did.

Speaker 1 What is their name? What is the CFL team in Edmonton?

Speaker 1 Oh, the Eskimos? I think it is the Eskimos. Yes, I think it is.

Speaker 1 They played outdoor at their stadium, 20th anniversary of the first outdoor game before the Buffalo Pittsburgh one I played in was Edmonton versus Montreal in

Speaker 1 2003. They did the 20-year anniversary, did the Battle of Alberta.
It was actually sick. Nickelback played.
Nickelback played, guys. That is very sick.

Speaker 1 Connor McDavid said they were the greatest band of all time. So you've got to respect when the great one says that.

Speaker 1 You can't claim the great one.

Speaker 1 I didn't mean that. No,

Speaker 1 you're not even in the playoffs right now.

Speaker 3 You just said the great one. In fact,

Speaker 1 he got hurt, big cat.

Speaker 1 He was out for two games, and we lost both. And then he came back and he was dominating the other night.
So basically, that win changed around the whole season.

Speaker 1 But as of right now, the Edmonton starts been a disaster. I could say that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you said the Oilers suck. You tweeted that out.

Speaker 1 I know, but then I retracted it and I said I had a moment of weakness and I said I took it all back and that they're actually awesome, that the flames really suck.

Speaker 1 So I addressed that on today's episode of Spitting Chickens or yesterday, because this is dropping tomorrow. Yesterday's episode of Spit and Chickens, I addressed that tweet and I really retracted it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, all right, so I can't believe they're doing, do you think they do too many outdoor games? No, I actually don't.

Speaker 1 I think that people that watch on TV have a right to probably be like, why are there so many of these? But they're totally made for everyone going. And every person that goes to the one each year

Speaker 1 goes away pretty much saying it was a blast. It's an awesome experience.
There's tailgating, you know, just being outside.

Speaker 1 So it's not, I mean, for the viewers, it's usually January 1st or January 2nd. They finally switched it from when the college playoff is, or that's December 31st, right? Either way, it's a good thing.

Speaker 1 It's on TV, and then being there is the best part. So I like how they do that.
That's a good answer.

Speaker 3 There was also a guy that was in the pregame skate. He was wearing like cowboy boot skates.
That rocked.

Speaker 1 I saw that guy. I don't know who he was, but he had legit like Bower bottoms on cowboy boots.
Yeah. So I don't know how the balance.
That would be like my ankles when I was playing.

Speaker 3 He was doing the Canadian tuxedo. I think he had jeans, a jean jacket, and cowboy boots on.
He looked awesome.

Speaker 1 That's Biz. That's pretty much how Biz dresses.

Speaker 1 All right, so I like this answer. Thanksgiving, American Thanksgiving is when teams start to feel the pressure.

Speaker 1 How is it in a locker room, though, at the beginning of the season, if you do start like the Edmonton Oilers, is there like, hey, guys, what's going on? Maybe not so many jokes.

Speaker 1 Like, let's get, let's rip off some wins here.

Speaker 1 We got to start making some hay.

Speaker 1 I think the panic can set in for the players a little bit in a sense of like, if we had good or high expectations and we're struggling the way Edmonton was, that's why they were like, they were talking about this outdoor heritage classic as if it were a playoff game.

Speaker 1 Like, I think I heard must win thrown around a couple times, and considering it was the eighth game of the year, that's not ideal. But players realize, like, we got to start getting going.

Speaker 1 Whereas if you're on the Sharks or, you know, the Blackhawks, there's no expectations. Obviously, you want to play well, but you realize that the whole year was probably going to be a bit of a grind.

Speaker 1 So for the good teams who struggle slow, yeah, right away, you're like, we have to switch this, we have to change this.

Speaker 1 And then if you're in Canada or a big market, the questions are starting to come after every practice, every game. You want to end those.
You want to get away from that.

Speaker 1 So it's probably quicker for the players, but

Speaker 1 like fan bases don't really panic until mid-November, late November.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it felt like a very slow start for Edmonton. And on the other hand, you got Boston.

Speaker 1 Boston's been the best team in the NHL.

Speaker 3 How did this team lose in the playoffs, Whitney?

Speaker 1 They just ran into a super hot goalie. They didn't get great goaltending.
They didn't switch up their goalie, which they had all regular season. They had gone the Swayman-Allmark combo.

Speaker 1 They went with Allmark every game until the end, and then Swayman went in. And it was just, it was one of those, just wasn't meant to be.

Speaker 1 And Bergeron came back in the middle of the series they were up 3-1 he comes back they lose the next three it was basically a full-on collapse and a choke like i said it at the time and florida had this magical like thing going on where who knows what they would have done with vegas they were so banged up everyone was injured kachuk could barely even move but florida was a good team and they basically just they they caught lightning in a bottle if that's the saying i don't even know if that is but it was it was a shocker to me it still will be but what they've done to start the season is incredible because they low they lose Bergeron.

Speaker 1 They lose Crechy. And everyone's like, this team's going to struggle to make the playoffs.
I had them getting in, but I thought they may be the eighth, seventh seed.

Speaker 1 And it looks like the culture there, Marshan's the new captain. They still have MackAville, even though he's getting suspended today.

Speaker 1 He put a little shoulder into him. He just crushed Oliver Ekman Larson in the face with his shoulder.
So he'll probably get three games, I would say.

Speaker 3 What's that like when you have the meeting, when you go to the player safety meeting, you get to plead your case to not get sussied? What do you say?

Speaker 1 So I only um i had one phone call hearing i went to lift up ovechkin stick and i speared him in the balls

Speaker 1 and um and and actually the the guy i was on the phone was hey you got the right guy i always thought that was kind of crazy and i got fined 2500 bucks so i never was suspended in my nhl career oh wow that means you didn't play tough enough exactly i knew you were gonna say yeah i mean well that is like i want my guys to get suspended every now and then Okay, well, I mean, in the end, like, you lose as a fan, you lose one of your players for games, and then the player loses money.

Speaker 1 So suspensions aren't ideal, but I will say it means you're cheetering on the edge of running a little crazy. Right.

Speaker 1 I think Biz got a 10-gamer, actually, for jumping off the bench during a fight, so he's probably still bitching about that money loss. Yeah, he could not lose that money.

Speaker 3 That's very NBA of you to care more about your money than actually helping your team win there, Ryan.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, the first thing I said was that

Speaker 1 the fan base would understand that a player is now gone. So that was the first thing that went into my mind.
And then I thought the player also loses money.

Speaker 1 But the first thing I said was not being in the lines. Yeah, yeah.
That's not NBA. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You don't do load management. You know that kids come out every night to see Ryan Whitney play when you're on a road trip.

Speaker 1 I heard Jimmy Butler

Speaker 1 got a load management game in the third game of the fucking season. So, no.

Speaker 1 Okay, so speaking of NBA, is there a James Harden of the NHL in that maybe a guy, a star

Speaker 1 who might ask for a trade?

Speaker 1 So Pierre-Luc Dubois was on Columbus. Tordorella and him butted heads.
He didn't want to be there. He requested a trade.
He got traded to to Winnipeg, where I believe his family lived.

Speaker 1 And, you know, Canada, big market, good player. And then all of a sudden, a year went by and he wanted to get traded from there and he got traded to LA.

Speaker 1 So he's on his third team after two trade requests. So one more and he'd match big, big game James.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Big game James. Big game James.

Speaker 3 I like that.

Speaker 1 That's James Shields, who did not deserve that nickname. You guys got that? Yeah.

Speaker 3 You guys have become like the big J's of the hockey world. It's been fun to watch the last couple of years.
You broke the story about Babcock looking through people's cell phones.

Speaker 3 You said that you come down with the side of the players always. I think Biz said, like, if you fuck with the players, what do you say, like, no spit, no lube, sandpaper finish?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what you're going to say. Well, benjo over, no spit, no lube, sandpaper finish.
Probably a little aggressive. I mean, he does work for TNT, but he's he can say and do whatever he wants.

Speaker 1 We figured that out at this point.

Speaker 3 Yes, do you guys, do you guys feel like more journalistic now? Is this a serious podcast for Chicklets?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We never want to be journalists.
And looking back, I mean, Biz had texted me, dude, I guess Babs is looking through guys' phones again or something. I was like, no way.

Speaker 1 And then I kind of reminded him of our phone call when we recorded. It was our first episode off of our summer break.
Long-deserved break that we really, really deserved and needed.

Speaker 3 Hank just put in a trade request to spit in chick list.

Speaker 1 So then

Speaker 1 we just, he just threw it out there and he was just like, you won't believe this, Babcock, he's checking guys' phones. And then...

Speaker 1 Honestly, like, he said after, he's like, that'll probably catch a little bit of steam in the media, but never in a million years did I think that would end up happening.

Speaker 1 So, in terms of like that type of podcast, breaking news, guys getting fired, like, I'm not looking to be a journalist. You guys know that.
You guys don't want to be journalists.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be the guy breaking the news. I want to be the guy that's maybe talking about the news that's being broken.
Yes. So, so when that all went down,

Speaker 1 were you kind of stunned with the response? Because I was getting mad for you guys.

Speaker 1 We kept on defending you guys because it's like all these journalists were like, oh,

Speaker 1 why would you believe these pieces pieces of shit, Barcelona, all this stuff? It's like, no, they're talking about a thing that happened to the players. They're reporting what actually happened.

Speaker 1 Were you at any point like, this is insane that people just, even after all this time, think that we're complete jokes and like, why wouldn't you believe us?

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little bit. I will say there was a little panic,

Speaker 1 at least for myself, when they released a quick statement where Boone Jenner and Johnny Goudreau said that he did go through his phone and it was completely fine and nothing was weird.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh, shit. Like,

Speaker 1 we could end up looking like fools. And I knew that we hadn't made anything up, which that was my big argument at the time.
I said, like,

Speaker 1 why would why would we as a podcast risk like pretty much everything to make up this random story? And then even for Biz, like, who did probably catch a little heat?

Speaker 1 I think TNT texted him right away, probably with the league texting them or getting in touch with them. Like, what is going on?

Speaker 1 So Biz has, Biz is, you think he's going to risk like his job with t and chiclets and all of kind of what we stand for and what we say being truthful for to just make up this random lie and i think part of it was just all the barstool haters and just us being attached to them and you know hockey media they're out of their mind a lot of them so i think for that it was a little bit surprising in terms of like people saying we're flat out lying like why would we do that but when that statement came out from from the the older vets and the captain on the team i said oh like if if they just sweep this under the rug we're gonna have to stand by our word, but it's always going to be a little foolish looking for us as a group.

Speaker 1 And then in the end, those older guys hadn't even heard what he'd done to some younger players, and the truth ended up coming out.

Speaker 1 Kind of luckily for the team, in terms of probably getting a coach out of there that wouldn't have been much fun to play for, and in terms for us as a podcast, you know, holding some credibility still.

Speaker 1 It's crazy to me. I don't know if you get mad about it because obviously we're not professional athletes or ex-professional athletes.

Speaker 1 So when people say shit about us, we're like, like, yeah, we are dumb. We're dumb idiots.
Like, what are you going to do? We're not going to fight it.

Speaker 1 But when journalists say, like, what do these guys know? And are you sitting there like, dude, I know that I'm not a journalist, but I was in a fucking NHL locker room for a decade.

Speaker 1 Like, I know something. This is crazy.

Speaker 1 I more look at it

Speaker 1 like.

Speaker 1 I have a lot of friends that still play in the league. Like,

Speaker 1 I've been out of the league for quite a while, coming up 10 years, but I still know guys who are still there and playing. And obviously that'll change at some point.
But Biz, even more so.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's got so many friends around the league, he's got so many different sources within teams.

Speaker 1 And so, for people to say that we have no clue what we're talking about, I know I'm not going to say they're like jealous, but they're more just kind of being a little ridiculous in my mind. But

Speaker 1 I also will say, like, I look at it the same way. Like, I am pretty dumb.
I don't know. I just give my opinion on sports.

Speaker 1 And if there's a certain play I'm talking about, I'd like to think I know what I'm saying in terms of like a breakdown.

Speaker 1 But when we're talking about different stories that break, like, yeah, we're dummies. We're messing around.
We're just being goofballs. So that part of it doesn't bother me.

Speaker 1 It's more when you kind of question our credibility. And

Speaker 1 if you're thinking that we would make things up about certain players, like, not only would that hurt us, but

Speaker 1 it would just kind of ruin our relationships within the league. Right, yeah.

Speaker 3 I thought R.A.'s credibility was on the line. So I was happy to see that come through.
I was worried for him. I was like, what hot water did Wittenbiz get R.A.
into this time?

Speaker 3 How's he going to get out of this one?

Speaker 1 R.A. is just immediately like

Speaker 1 getting away from Biz, and I was like, no, no, these guys are full of shit.

Speaker 1 Wait, so you said Babcock, obviously, tough guy, not fun guy to play for. I think Tortorella's, everyone knows, probably not fun to play for.
Who's another coach that

Speaker 1 I never want to have those two be compared? I do like saying that. And we said it at the time because

Speaker 1 Tortorella can be hard on guys and demand a lot, but people also say that that away from the rink, he's a good guy. He's a good person.
He can just be a motherfucker to play for.

Speaker 1 Where Babcock never had any of that. Right, right.
So who else is like a tough guy to play for

Speaker 1 around the league? Not a bad coach, but just he just coaches the guys very tough.

Speaker 1 The game has changed so much where when I was playing, I would say it was like 80% of guys who could be ball busters and stay on you and be pricks.

Speaker 1 And it's just, I think with the way the game's changed and players being so young in the league, there aren't many guys.

Speaker 1 I think Greg Cronin, who's a first-year coach on Anaheim, he's been around the NHL and all hockey leagues for forever, but he can be pretty intense from what I've heard.

Speaker 1 But you look at Tampa Bay, John Cooper's not really like that.

Speaker 1 He's just more probably not down to earth, but maybe a little more personable with all the guys he coaches. And like Martin St.

Speaker 1 Louis in Montreal now, it's Jim Montgomery's kind of a player's coach in quotation.

Speaker 1 So the game's changed in terms of the hard-ass old school coaching style is really going by the wayside, and it's happened pretty quickly, actually. I have a dumb question.

Speaker 1 If you rank the four major sports, where does hockey rank in terms of how important the coach is?

Speaker 1 So football's one. Yeah, football, I think, is definitely one.
Basketball is the last one. Okay.
Just a little bit more. And I would say baseball.

Speaker 1 I would say baseball is in front of hockey, so third. Okay.

Speaker 1 Aren't baseball coaches calling all the pitches and stuff?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 3 a lot of catchers do that, too. And some of them are just deciding pitchers, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, deciding pitchers when to pull guys.

Speaker 1 But there's also, like, there's been the analytics revolution in baseball where, like, the Yankees, I think that's the big complaint Yankees fans have is like Aaron Boone doesn't even manage.

Speaker 1 It's like a spreadsheet. Like, it's just a plan that they have going in.
You could have a selective thing. The computer could do it.
Yeah, computer could do it.

Speaker 3 AI could manage the business. So

Speaker 1 let's put hockey number two behind football. What's the hardest thing a hockey coach has to do?

Speaker 1 Like, is it tactical?

Speaker 1 No, I think there's so few systems you can actually play. Like, there's only so many defensive zone coverages.
There's only so many different power plays you can run.

Speaker 1 So, coaches actually more so like picking the lines, right? Like, who's going to play with who? Yep. Finding out, like,

Speaker 1 if you ask players, like, especially forwards, it'll drive them nuts when the coaches are putting the lines in a blender where every game you're playing with two different guys and guys like getting consistency and having a chance to play with the same two players or for defensemen, your other partner.

Speaker 1 But I think coaches are picking the lineup.

Speaker 1 They're figuring out mid-game who's going and who's not, and then shortening the bench, maybe hopping a guy up from the fourth line to the second line because he's really going that night.

Speaker 1 So, in-game, coaches do a lot more than I think.

Speaker 1 And there's a lot of preparation that goes in and a lot of video watching and scouting other teams.

Speaker 1 But in game, coaches are getting a feel of the bench and seeing who has it that night and who doesn't. So, yeah, they're number two.
I think number two.

Speaker 1 I also do love in the Stanley Cup playoff when the coach will, they have like like one line that they can put out there that could kill everyone, but they don't want to do it until later on in the series.

Speaker 1 I love when coaches do that. When they're like, all right, here is, like, fuck our third and fourth line.
We're going to shorten this up and just, like, hammer you with our first line.

Speaker 1 But then you look at Vegas, and that's why they were just so dominant and continue to be this year. They have 12 forwards and 6D, and there's no weaknesses.
You don't have to hide a D pairing.

Speaker 1 You don't have to really limit the fourth line. They pretty much just roll their lines, roll the pairings, and they're so deep that they just crush teams.

Speaker 1 So that job may be a little easier in terms of like Bruce Cassidy because he knows I got depth at every position.

Speaker 1 Like, I really don't have to hide anyone, and I can just shove this train along and just wear teams down.

Speaker 3 Was there ever a defenseman that you would play with who was a really good player, but for whatever reason, you and him just couldn't play well together on the ice?

Speaker 1 I don't have an example of that personally off the top of my head, but it happens all the time. I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't know how much time. Now, granted, they're both centers.
Like, Crosby and Malcolm didn't spend much time together. Obviously, they play the same position, so that makes a little bit of sense.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 there's been like times where two good players, a center and a winger, for some reason, they don't click. And there's two D partners that don't click.

Speaker 1 And then you see maybe a D pair that you'd never thought would work, and they end up playing together an entire season.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, there is chemistry within players that for some reason sometimes never forms.

Speaker 1 And it's always kind of confusing because I think coaching staffs look before a season like, all right, these two be great together, and then it never works out.

Speaker 1 It's kind of one of those things that's just so random, you can't put a finger on it.

Speaker 1 Unless it's a group, a forward line where, you know, you got two guys who love to go in, get the puck, they'll go in the corners hard, then there's one guy who doesn't do it, so they don't all mesh well together.

Speaker 1 But for personally, I don't, I don't remember having that. Is your D-pairing partner, is your partner on defense? Is it like,

Speaker 1 you know, like a cop pairing where it's like you have his back no matter what, and you almost are like closer to him than anyone else on the team. Yes, yes, that's kind of every shift.

Speaker 1 You're coming off, you're just talking next to each other on the bench. What just happened in that corner? I should have been there.
Oh, I yelled this. I got to say this.

Speaker 1 So there's just so much that goes into it during practices and in between shifts that if you can get a

Speaker 1 player, a partner for D that you're with for a long time, you really start knowing where each other are without even really thinking, which is

Speaker 1 the true, you know, that's ideal in the game, right? If all of a sudden I know he's going to be there, then it just makes the game that much easier. So, yeah, there's a lot that goes into that.

Speaker 3 Will a coach ever be lazy and be like, you guys both speak Russian. You guys should be on the ice at the same time?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 That's what I would do.

Speaker 1 But that would more be like them being like, hey, we both speak Russian. Put us together.
But then the third player on that line's like,

Speaker 1 they're looking at me with anger and talking in Russian. So I don't think they like me very much right now.

Speaker 3 Better learn to speak Russian, buddy. I actually have a serious question about

Speaker 1 Russia and the russian gas that you guys uh would always talk about on spin chiclets um since the war in ukraine has there been a shortage of russian gas coming over over to the united states i don't think it ever was coming over to the united states the russian gas experience it it's only in the khl you got to play in the khl to experience it and get the chance and actually not to plug our own show but we dropped the show today or yesterday and kevin dahlman is a guest he played in the nhl for a little bit then he went over to the khl he's actually the all-time goal scoring leader in that league.

Speaker 1 He's from Canada. He had an incredible career over there.
He probably made 30 million. And he goes in depth more than we've ever discussed with anyone what actually Russian gas is.

Speaker 1 It was about 10 minutes of him describing what he did, how he did it, how he felt. And it's a great little story and an in-depth look at Russian gas.

Speaker 1 So anyone who's really curious, go to the Kevin Dahlman interview on this week's Spitting Chickle. I love to listen to it.

Speaker 3 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's been part of my team. PFT.
I was actually over there, and my guess was like I got a shot, and it was definitely like speed or something because I was incredible that night.

Speaker 1 And when I did it, but this guy, he actually went through like using the gas mask, and I was blown away. And then he gave it to another guy who was like, holy shit, that what a buzz.
Like,

Speaker 1 it's a pretty incredible breakdown of what they actually did over there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, has there been a difference in just international hockey in general, like the flow of where players are going to play ever since the KHL is now not a safe place for people to play?

Speaker 1 There's guys still in the KHL.

Speaker 1 That's still going on. I think that maybe guys look to Sweden and Switzerland a little bit more.

Speaker 1 But what sucks for international hockey is like the World Juniors, which is the best under-20 players in the world. A lot of guys go on to be NHL stars every Christmas time.
Russia's not in that.

Speaker 1 They're not in the under-18. If this continues and they have a best-on-best tournament, they wouldn't be in that.

Speaker 1 So the IIHF has banned them from everything, which sucks because, you know, they're always one of the best teams and you want to see these players. And it just, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 I don't see that ending anytime soon. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Real quick, Connor Berdard, nine games in,

Speaker 1 passed the test. Although on last night, so Monday night, he scored with 30 seconds into the game.
The Blackhawks did lose 8-1. That wasn't ideal.
But has he passed the Ryan Whitney eye test?

Speaker 1 After the first period of opening night, he passed the test. And I said, holy shit.
Like, I just wanted to see him in one game.

Speaker 1 And I actually knew that I'd probably have a, I mean, that's a little ridiculous to say, but once I saw him for a period, you can kind of tell. And right away, you're like, this is a superstar.

Speaker 1 This is a future game breaker. And he's small, but his shot is out of this world.
And I also thought, or I also didn't realize how good he is at creating plays, like space for himself.

Speaker 1 He had a nice assist in the first game. And he does everything that you need to see a young, like, first overall pick do to prove to you that you're looking at a future 50 goal a year guy.

Speaker 1 His shot is out of this world. And in terms of that loss Monday night, they had rookie party in Scottsdale before that, so that game was a write-off end.
Okay, so that doesn't count.

Speaker 1 That doesn't count.

Speaker 1 Is he better than Conor McDavid?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 Same number of Stanley Cups.

Speaker 1 Connor McDavid's team is also really bad.

Speaker 1 No, no, the Oilers are not really bad. They're very good.
They're very good. They had a tough little start, but they're sucking.
They're actually

Speaker 3 suck, according to the hockey analyst Ryan Whitney.

Speaker 1 They're chewing five. Nope, nope.
Took it back. Don't put words in my mouth.
They're 2-5. Don't put words in my mouth.
They're 2-5.

Speaker 1 And by the way, the Oilers have lost the last two seasons in the Western Conference final two years ago and the second round this year to the two Stanley Cup champions.

Speaker 1 So basically, they're runners-up the past two years. Yeah, nice.
Nice.

Speaker 1 And last year, their series with Vegas, which was 2-2, going back to Vegas, game five,

Speaker 1 they lost, and that was the Stanley Cup final. So I just want to get away from the money.
So they lost to the Stanley Cup.

Speaker 1 They're runners-up the last two years. Okay.
It's a good spin zone.

Speaker 3 If he retired today,

Speaker 3 who would have had a better career? McDavid or Phil Kessel?

Speaker 1 I guess Phil Kessel, but McDavid was more dominant. But if you're looking at a career, I mean, he broke the Iron Man streak and has two Stanley Cups and, I don't know, four or five hundred goals.

Speaker 1 So Kessel. Does Kessel still play? Does he have three? No,

Speaker 1 last year he was on the Vegas Golden Knights, but he didn't play one playoff game. They went with a different roster.

Speaker 1 And then this year, I think he was open to playing, but he didn't want to go somewhere on a tryout. So who knows?

Speaker 1 Maybe he does get signed in the next month or two, or maybe he's just going to shut it down. But he was,

Speaker 1 I mean, to have the record he has and to do what he did, he's an all-time player, Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1 Hey, where's Patrick King going to play this year? Because he's got his hip injury that he's rehabbing from and he's going to basically get to pick a team at some point in like January, right? Yep.

Speaker 1 I wish I was buddies with him, and I could kind of get an inside scoop. I got nothing.
I'm hoping for Buffalo. I'm on the Buffalo Sabres bandwagon.
I'd love to see them get in the playoffs this year.

Speaker 1 It's been a tough. They actually have the longest playoff drought streak in pro sports right now.
Really?

Speaker 1 Which is amazing to me. They haven't been in the playoffs in 13 years, which I was surprised.

Speaker 1 There's no team in any other league that's gone 13 years without the playoffs, but it is the Buffalo Sabres. Patrick Haines from Buffalo.

Speaker 1 I've actually been beating this drum since before he was traded to the Rangers. Rangers, Rangers are legit

Speaker 1 Stanley Cup threat this season. Maybe he goes back there, but I don't know with how it went in the first-round exit to the Devils.

Speaker 1 Maybe Dallas. That's kind of a rumor that's been circulating around.
That's another Stanley Cup possibility for that team. But I really can't give you any inside info.
I'm not a journalist.

Speaker 1 They're tied with the Jets, the New York Jets. So this will be their 13th year if they don't do it.
12. Oh, same as the Jets? Yeah, same as the Jets.
Last time.

Speaker 1 Well, I think the the Jets might get in this year. Yeah.
I think the Jets are good.

Speaker 3 Not to fact check you, but Phil Kessler's a three-time Stanley Cup champion. Who?

Speaker 1 Three times. So you're 12.

Speaker 1 You're 100% right.

Speaker 1 You're 100% 2022. He's on the Golden Knights, and I didn't give him credit because he didn't play in the playoffs, but that's my.
Oh, you don't say he didn't play in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 McDavid has a long way.

Speaker 1 It's a big mountain to climb. So I forgot.
Still, his name's on the cup. Yeah.
True.

Speaker 1 I just said I forgot. Okay.
Don't get mad, but you forgot. And then they literally, when did they, they won it a long time time ago, though, right? This is like

Speaker 1 lyrics when you say you're sorry, and then they keep giving it to you. I said I'm sorry.
Actually, last time. Yeah, no, there's no way of getting out of that.

Speaker 1 You just got to say I'm sorry over and over, and then you just got to. Maya Culpa.
Well, now, no, now I'm not sorry. I am still.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about a different sport real quick. Your Georgia Bulldogs.
Oh, baby. This Brock Bowers thing is scary as hell, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Carson Beck is good, though. Carson Beck is good.
He might be good. I know, and I didn't really know what to expect.
He kind of

Speaker 1 has a weird face, like a little lazy looking, but he could sling it. But they're not winning without Bowers.

Speaker 1 And I think that any true Bulldogs fan to tell you it's going to be real difficult without him. By the way, football guys, can he go first overall? Like if he's going to be Gronk or Kelsey?

Speaker 1 No, he won't. Because he'll be a quarterback.
But he'll go top five. Oh, that guy.

Speaker 1 That guy's insane.

Speaker 1 I can't believe how good he is.

Speaker 1 I think he could be better than Kelsey and Gronk. Yeah, no, and you're right.

Speaker 1 He will probably have a better career than the guys that get drafted above him.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying with the NFL. If you know you have this 12 to 15-year superstar tight end

Speaker 1 and he's not like, he can block, he could do everything. Why wouldn't you take him?

Speaker 1 Especially considering these quarterbacks, half of them suck that could take it first overall.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kyle Pitts was the highest drafted tight end in NFL history with the fourth overall a couple years ago.

Speaker 1 Okay. What do you think about it? Maybe he breaks that this year.

Speaker 3 What do you think about Caleb Williams painting his fingernails before games saying like, fuck you, to his opponents?

Speaker 3 Has there ever been a hockey player that does that?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'd love to ask Sean Avery.
He might have painted the fingernails at the time.

Speaker 1 A giant fuck you to someone. I'm not exactly sure.
I can't think of anyone.

Speaker 1 What's Sean Avery doing these days besides getting in fights with people on the screen? He's doing a hockey podcast with Kevin Conley,

Speaker 1 Everemontarus, and then another guy, excuse me, I don't know his name. It's actually entertaining on YouTube.
I watch it occasionally. And he does jiu-jitsu.

Speaker 1 I believe he's up to a blue or a yellow belt, and he competes, and he's done pretty well. So Avery's crushing it.
I kind of like when Sean Avery just does the videos.

Speaker 1 I think he moved, but when he would just do the video. He lives in L.A.
now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he'd do the videos in New York where people would put their bike in front of a coffee shop and he'd just wait for the bike guy to come out and he'd just yell at them.

Speaker 1 No, it was actually the opposite. He was a bike rider.
So he would attack people. That's right.
He would really go after people who may be parked in the bike lane.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I love those videos too where it's like a GoPro on a guy's body and he's just like driving through New York, screaming at people walking out of the bike. Yeah, that bike lane.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 And like every video, I was just waiting for him to just dummy someone, too. I was like, one of these is going to be incredible.
He had the one. He went out to LA.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had the one in LA where he looked like the Terminator, like

Speaker 1 walking down this car. And he had like, I was like, holy fuck.
And now he's like,

Speaker 1 he's a legit like killing machine, considering he's a jiu-jitsu master so you don't want to fuck with those people no don't don't don't speed around sean avery's neighborhood that's just a psa to everyone out there but uh but back to back to brock i think he's going to come back right he's not done for the season they're not shutting him down no no they've said that he should be able to come back but like you don't know after a surgery if like what what will his percentage be like will he maybe look at it and say like why am i coming back before the draft i don't know that there's just there's a lot of question marks is all i meant but the d is there.

Speaker 1 They're going to get in the national title game, even if they lose the SEC title game, I believe.

Speaker 1 And it's on to three in a row, guys. Three in a row.
Already counting it. Would be pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so I think a lot of Georgia fans are like,

Speaker 3 they're excited and they've got high expectations, but they also think, wait, this team isn't as good as last year's team or maybe the year before that team.

Speaker 1 But nobody's that good. Right.
So it makes it a little easier, I think. Oh, speaking of Michigan and their sign stealing stuff, has anything like that ever happened in hockey?

Speaker 1 Was there ever like a time where I think they're videotaping our practice or something? Would you even be able to get an advantage on that?

Speaker 1 Well, that's kind of what I agreed with what Deion Sanders was saying. Like, dude, you got our game plan.
Stop it. And

Speaker 1 I think that hockey probably maybe even more so than football. You can know.

Speaker 1 In hockey, you do know exactly what every team's going to do, and it's just up to executing and somehow trying to stop what you know is coming at you.

Speaker 1 I mean, last year, people had clips of 82 games of the Oilers' power play that was the best power play in the history of the NHL, and nobody could stop it. So I think Hawkeye didn't matter as much.

Speaker 1 The Knights did.

Speaker 1 I think the power play was still pretty money that season. Yeah, but they did win that series.
They beat them, but I was saying power play in film.

Speaker 1 So the Oilers, just so we can recap real quick, runners up in the Stanley Cup playoff last year. And if the Stanley Cup was given out to just the power play, they would have won it.
Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 McDavid's got like four cups, if that's the case.

Speaker 1 So that's, yeah. Let's just give him one, and now he's got the cup, and we're good for everything.
Oh, if he never wins one, you're going to have to come on the show and apologize to us.

Speaker 1 You called him the great one. The great one.
The great one. I misspoke.
I misspoke. I think I had Oilers great on my head that a number began with nine, but no, no, no, no.
Great one is Wayne Gretzky.

Speaker 1 But guys, speaking of no Stanley Cup, we had an all-time first-ballot NHL Hall of Famer retire, Joe Thornton. He never got the cup.
cup. He never got it.
Biz and I said that.

Speaker 1 Biz said if he had a magic coin that R.A. would probably try to eat.
But if he had a magic coin

Speaker 1 and he could hand it to one player who never got the cup that deserved one, his would have been Joe Thornton. Mine was Joe Thornton or Jerome McGinla.
Two guys that you look back, both deserved it.

Speaker 1 Both went to cup finals. It didn't work out for him.
But yeah, I mean, looking back, I mean, I'm sure McDavid's biggest nightmare is if it all ends and he doesn't have a cup.

Speaker 1 So that's why there's so much panic panic within Oilers Nation in the fact that Leon Dreitzeitel's next year is his last year of his deal. McDavid has two years after this, and then his deal's up.

Speaker 1 So if you see a failure this season, who knows what's going to happen with Leon and committing to the future there. So there's some worry.
I would give my magic coin to you. That's so nice, you dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah. How insufferable would you be if you had won a cup?

Speaker 1 Probably pretty bad.

Speaker 1 Well, imagine you getting in an argument with the piss. Yeah, I bet you won the cup.
You don't know what you guys are talking about. I won the cup.
I know what. How many of you guys won a cup?

Speaker 1 Oh, nobody? Yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I kind of wish you had a cup just to fucking stick it in everyone's face. Oh, I wish I did too, buddy.
I appreciate that. I got a silver medal.
That's my cup. That's a sad cup.

Speaker 1 That's really sad.

Speaker 3 If we gave you the cup coin, would you give it to Jumbo?

Speaker 1 I couldn't.

Speaker 1 I think I gave it to Aginla so that Biz gave it to Joe and I gave it to Aginla. So I gave mine to you.
Neither even. But that means you can't give yours yours to McDavid if he doesn't win a cup.

Speaker 1 I don't need to because he's still playing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but you just said he's higher time.

Speaker 1 You should save yours. No, just in case.

Speaker 3 I'm going to give it to Ovie so he can get two.

Speaker 1 All right. Never mind.
We don't have to. Oh,

Speaker 1 they actually really had the wit reverse mush going on. I said the Capitals stink.
They're old. They're slow.
They suck. And they've won three in a row since I said that.

Speaker 1 So things are looking up in Capitals land, but I still don't think they're going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 But would you like to retract that? You You just said that you retracted your Oilers' take.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not retracting that one because they beat the Sharks, which doesn't count.

Speaker 1 They beat somebody else shitty, and then they had one good win, I believe, against the Devils, maybe. But I still think the Capitals kind of suck.

Speaker 1 I'll add a kinda on there. How about that? I think that's fair.

Speaker 3 They might kind of suck this year. And basically, it feels to me as a Caps fan like we're treating the next two years as

Speaker 3 we're not trying to do a rebuild yet.

Speaker 3 We're putting off the rebuild and just focusing the next year and a half, two years on getting Ovie Dogretzky's record. Is that fair?

Speaker 1 I agree with that. Biz argued that against me.
He really likes their team, thinks they're going to get in the playoffs, talks about all the champions in that locker room, which is a valid point.

Speaker 1 But Baxtrom had this really difficult, crazy hip surgery to come back from and kind of hasn't looked the same since he came back from that.

Speaker 1 And I just think they're just older and slower, not a great D.

Speaker 1 But I do agree with you. My point was I think it's all about the OV gold chase, chase, and then they kind of restart.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's my personal Stanley Cup for the next two years, just counting down until Ovie gets it.

Speaker 1 I mean, that'll be one of the most amazing moments in NHL history. A record that many people said will never be sniffed, never even be remotely close to getting broken.

Speaker 1 And John Buchagrasse from ESPN was the first guy, I think, six years ago, maybe long, maybe seven years ago, he sent out a tweet with a breakdown on how Ovie could do it.

Speaker 1 And I remember reading it like, there's just no chance. And somehow it's going to end up happening.
And it'll be an amazing, it'll be one of the coolest moments in the history of the sport.

Speaker 1 Yeah, whoa, yeah, no, I agree. It's gonna

Speaker 1 be incredible, yeah.

Speaker 3 So, I mean, he's been the most consistent guy ever.

Speaker 3 They've had how many years he got in the league in what, 2005, 2000, yeah, 2005, and they still haven't figured out how to stop him on the power play, how to like step into that office and cut that.

Speaker 1 You know what's nuts, though? And I don't know if you guys caught this, but recently, Austin Matthews scored his 300th.

Speaker 1 He scored his 300th

Speaker 1 in like six more games than it took Ovi.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's like, whoa. And I think at the same age, if not younger.

Speaker 1 So like if Matthews continues and is able, it's all about staying healthy, which has been the incredible thing with Ovechkin is being that big and playing that physical that he's never really missed a ton of time where Matthews has battled injuries here or there, but he's in a league.

Speaker 1 He's a goal scorer like Ovi, so you never know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Connor Berdard is probably going to break it.
Not willing to say that yet.

Speaker 3 Okay. Can you talk me in?

Speaker 1 Nine games in? Pussy. Four goals.

Speaker 1 If he had nine goals in nine games, like Frank Petrano and Anaheim, I would say it.

Speaker 3 You said the first period you could tell with Bedard, right?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like first period. Retroactively, I said this guy's going to break Obi's record one day.

Speaker 1 You did? Yeah, I did. Right now.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, yeah, because the season hasn't started.
Right. Yes,

Speaker 1 this is about to start. It's about to start.

Speaker 3 I think he's as advertised.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So,

Speaker 1 Wit, I got one last question.

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Speaker 1 Who is your Stanley Cup final pick, and who do you have raising the cup?

Speaker 1 So I picked the Edmonton Oilers. Okay, now they're two.
Which actually

Speaker 1 a lot of people picked. Well, the St.
Louis Blues were in dead last place like January 4th. Well, you told us Thanksgiving, American Thanksgiving.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I picked the Edmonton Oilers.

Speaker 1 The way the season starts, it's obviously not ideal. I think that if I were to give another pick, it's the Colorado Avalanche.
They are just, they seem possessed.

Speaker 1 They had a tough little road trip here recently, but they're an elite team with unreal depth, kind of like Vegas. Vegas could do it again.
And then in the East,

Speaker 1 I actually think if Toronto or the Rangers won the cup, I wouldn't be surprised. Whoa.
I know.

Speaker 1 I know. I was going to say.
Toronto's very good.

Speaker 3 I want to give you 30 seconds to talk us into the Toronto Maple Leafs this year.

Speaker 1 Austin Matthews, top five player in the league. Mitch Marner, an amazing playmaker, obviously an amazing talent as well.

Speaker 1 They got William Nielander, who's up for a contract and outstanding right now, leading his team and scoring. John Tavares is a veteran, can play that playoff style.
They got a...

Speaker 1 A goaltender, Joseph Wall, who's kind of taken over the number one over Sam Sonov, and he looks amazing. His numbers in all his career NHL games, even though it's been short-lived,

Speaker 1 are pretty impressive. The defense is the one question, but they got Giordano, who's a former Norvers Trophy winner.
He's a leader. He's older, but he's smart, steady.
Morgan Riley's a top-end talent.

Speaker 1 They got Klingberg, who's an offensive wizard to run the power play.

Speaker 1 They have Bertuzzi, who came over from Boston and Detroit the year prior, who's a playoff-style, in-your-face player. Max Domey's a pain in the ass.
I think that they could do it.

Speaker 1 I would be surprised if they won the Stanley Cup, but I also think that if everything broke the correct way and they got really good goaltending, they could do it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, Hank, do you have any questions for Witt? Oh, how much FOMO did you have that you weren't in the Ryder Cup?

Speaker 1 That was literally built for you. Yeah, I really wanted.
But the only thing I don't appreciate, and

Speaker 1 I think it's you, it's Dave, it's Minahan, it's like everyone. Oh, Whitney's not here.
Whitney's not at Big Brother at the office.

Speaker 1 I had the NHL draft and the awards show where we went and banked interviews and made content that you guys decided

Speaker 1 to plan the Ryder Cup during. Oh, okay.
So nothing I could do there.

Speaker 1 We got Hank here. Yeah, I do have Hank here, and he knows it.
And I told him, do it in the fall. And then Big Brother at the office.

Speaker 1 Big Brother. First, I thought I was going to be on vacation, and then I realized it's the draft and the awards, and I can't go to both.

Speaker 1 I have to go to my real job where I work 90 hours a week with Spit and Chicklets. And then

Speaker 1 Big Brother at the office. You guys planned that during Chicklett's Cup.
Another just very smooth move by Barstool to not have me or Biz be able to be in Big Brother. Sounds like

Speaker 1 I did not go to because of my choice. I went to because of my job and my profession and having to be present

Speaker 1 in those moments.

Speaker 3 Because I heard there were meetings that took place where they said like months and months in advance, hey, this is when we're going to do it. And that Ryan Whitney was like, yeah, I'm in.

Speaker 3 Let's do it.

Speaker 1 Well, I didn't know when the draft and the awards was. Yeah, they don't put that on a schedule.
So if the draft of the awards weren't then, you would have been there? Yes.

Speaker 1 Not vacation?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Because then when I saw everyone going, I was like, oh, yeah, okay, I'm going. I'll go.
Hank, why are you giving that face, bro?

Speaker 1 I would have.

Speaker 1 I'm not. And I was wrong about the vacation time.
I'm not trying to. My thing was, you should have had it in the fall.

Speaker 1 I understand, though, you had to get it out before the Ryder Cup, and it takes you guys like six months to edit stuff. So I understand completely.

Speaker 1 And in the end, I promise I would have been there had it not been during a Chiclet's work trip. Capital W.

Speaker 3 Because the way Hank asked that question made it seem like he had a gotcha moment there. Not a gotcha moment.

Speaker 1 Because I told Hank originally I was going to be on vacation on those dates. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Guys, you get one week vacation a year when you work this hard.

Speaker 3 I thought you said that you took the summer off. Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did. Yeah, okay.
It was a long week. So one week vacation during the work with the calendar.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Where'd you go?

Speaker 1 Nowhere. Golf.

Speaker 1 Just golfed.

Speaker 1 Went to Nantucket for a couple weeks. Are you going to go into Dave's tunnel house that doesn't have tunnels?

Speaker 1 If I'm invited, I would like to go check that house out. And I do think there are tunnels there.
I don't think that gets made up out of nowhere. He's just so dumb, he wouldn't even know.

Speaker 3 If he paid that much money and didn't have tunnels, he should get his money back because that's a bad buy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. I feel like the price was set at that point because of the tunnels.

Speaker 1 Tunnels are worth at least 20 million. Easy.
You know for a fact that he heard the news break of tunnels in the house, and he probably called the real estate agent, like, there's tunnels.

Speaker 1 Like, he had no clue going in for sure. Yeah.
And then he says there isn't any, so I guess he's been told no, but I'd like to believe there are. Yeah, there are.
Yeah. There are tunnels.

Speaker 1 You're going to find Elio down there just ripping a shirt off in the tunnel during an over in the cup final.

Speaker 1 Well, Elio did the best video because he, when Dave bought a $42 million house, Elio did a video being like, we made it. We did it.
We did it.

Speaker 1 Congrats to us. I can't believe we did it.
All right, Hank, what was your one question?

Speaker 1 Were you in Ireland recently playing golf? And follow-up, if so, yes. How was it? Oh.
It was incredible. It was an unrealistic.
Wait, is this work?

Speaker 1 What's up? Is this work? No, this was not work, but I flew home from Ireland, and then I had to get on a plane and go to Buffalo for Chicol Scup. That's work ethic.
That's showing up to do your job.

Speaker 1 That's leaving no man's. Vacation to your work.

Speaker 1 So a bender in Ireland followed by a bender in maybe the bigger drinking spot in the world than ireland buffalo that's when you know you're earning every penny that's going into your bank account but i was in ireland it was beautiful although it's crazy you go to northern ireland and they really really hate catholics a lot of them like they're uncomfortable they fucking hate your government

Speaker 1 flags flying everywhere yeah so i enjoyed dublin a little bit more when you get to the irish you get to the catholic and you get to enjoy yourself without some grumpy northern irish people in your face yeah i learned don't order an irish car bomb when you're in ireland Ireland.

Speaker 3 They don't like that. It's not funny.

Speaker 1 It's funny to them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's a little travel advice from PFT. They look at that phrase in a much different light than what we would look at it in.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Did you go to Wingnuts? What? Did you go to Wingnuts when you were in Buffalo? No, we didn't even.
What the fuck? We were busy.

Speaker 1 All the people who were

Speaker 1 actually busy. You worked too much.
We worked too much, bud.

Speaker 1 I went to another wing place. I can't remember the name there.
Last time, last Chicklett's Cup, it was phenomenal, but it wasn't Wingnuts. Is that your number one? That's our number one.

Speaker 1 It's the best. What are they? A sponsor? No, no.
One of the best meals of all time. We sponsored them.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Yeah, we sold shirts because the owners, Ed and Alicia, were running it out of a Knights of Columbus. Like, they were literally running out of a kitchen in a Knights of Columbus rec haul.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
Okay. No big deal.
Fair enough.

Speaker 3 When's your next vacation, Ryan?

Speaker 1 Next week. I got.

Speaker 1 February school vacation. We're going to Florida for a week.
Yeah, okay. Yeah.
So I swear to God, we got a chicklets trip to California in two weeks.

Speaker 1 We got a chick-loads trip to Atlanta the week after that. We got a chicklets trip to Chicago early December.
And then I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 1 And then I'll try to go down to Florida to play golf for like two nights in January. But don't hold me to that.
Yeah, you deserve that. I do.
After all this grinding. I know.

Speaker 1 I mean, you guys work your bag off. I don't know what you're doing.
You both got 50 million in the back now, so fucking stop working so hard, guys.

Speaker 1 Hank's going to take Hank's putting in hours now, and he's going to just take all summer off. He's on the Ryan Whitney.

Speaker 1 Hank golfs more than me. Yeah.
He golfs more than everyone. He golfs more than everyone.
He golfs more than Brooks Kepka. Simulator's going to be done today.
I'm going to have to test it out.

Speaker 1 Find it out. Yeah.
Yeah. No.
Hey, who's your guy's white whale right now for interviews?

Speaker 3 Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 Brady.

Speaker 3 Belichick would be good. Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 I think you said Belichick to me last time. Kevin Durant.
Do you think there's ever a chance?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think there's a chance.

Speaker 1 Okay. I would say, yeah, Kevin Durant, Brady, or Belichick.

Speaker 1 Sabin.

Speaker 1 Sabin, if he could actually talk ball with us, would be fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 It seems like every white whale, at least for us, it's like they got to be retired. You're just never going to get the store.
You're never going to get them real. Yeah.
I know.

Speaker 1 When you guys get Connor Berdard on, I'm like, because he's so young. I know.
And he's like, so doesn't want to step on any toes. We might have to drag you in for that one.
Big cat carry the load.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll just say dumb shit.

Speaker 1 That's what we do. We interviewed Logan Cooley, who's a stud rookie on the Coyotes, future superstar, actually.
He's sick. And he was like, you know, shy, young.
He's 19.

Speaker 1 And Biz and I were complete fools, like idiots. You just made me.
And I was like, I don't think we had any other option there. Yeah, you just say dumb shit, they laugh, and that's the interview.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 I can tell he's laughing. He's like, these guys are fucking morons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's interview 101.

Speaker 3 He probably just wants to hang out with you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know about that. Everyone wants to hang out with Biz.
I'm like the grumpy old guy that looks older than he even is. So nobody wants to hang out with me.
They want to meet Biz.

Speaker 1 I got family members asking if they can meet Biz.

Speaker 3 Do you have to be like Biz's chaperone

Speaker 1 when you go on these trips?

Speaker 3 Do you act like you look after him?

Speaker 1 No, there is no looking after Biz. You walk down the street.
Everyone.

Speaker 1 I know this sounds crazy, but I think if Biz walked down the street with like 10 NHL superstars, he might get recognized more than all of them. It's out of control.
I believe that.

Speaker 1 And so he's walking and he's talking to everyone and he's actually great.

Speaker 1 Like he stands and has conversations with everyone, but we're trying to walk to dinner, and I'm always wherever we're going 10 minutes before he arrives, sometimes 20.

Speaker 3 If he gets a call from Wayne Gretzky, he has to get up from wherever he is and be like, Yeah, I got your message.

Speaker 1 Recently, Gretzky called him. He just stood up.
He's like, Oh, that's Wayne. It's Wayne.
Hold on. I love it.
Yeah. He's his guy.
He's a big shot. He's his guy.
All right. Well, Witt, thank you.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to see you in December.

Speaker 1 Thanks, guys. Yeah, gonna be great.
All the boys will be out here.

Speaker 1 Last NHL thing I'll say.

Speaker 1 What What is it here?

Speaker 1 Okay, so these are my teams who can win the Stanley Cup: Vegas Golden Knights, Los Angeles Kings, Edmonton Oilers, Colorado Avalanche, Dallas Stars, New York Rangers, Carolina Hurricanes, Boston Bruins, Toronto Maple Leafs.

Speaker 1 That's it. Okay.
Yep. No one from outside of that.

Speaker 1 So there's two teams or three teams that if everything went right: Tampa, the Devils,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 where was the other one? You said the Panthers. That's it.
That's it. Yeah.
That's it. Okay.
I like it. Oh, Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh.
But that's been a tough start, too.

Speaker 1 So I think whatever I listed as the cup winners, and then three others, if everything magically happened at some point, they could do it. So I guess I got 11 cup winners.

Speaker 1 Is there another Connor Berdard in the next draft?

Speaker 1 Yes. And so I am a coach's advisor.

Speaker 1 I can't talk to the players, but I can talk to the coaches who can then talk to the players for the BU men's hockey team. That's where I played for three years.
And they are an amazing team.

Speaker 1 They've started a little slow, but it's going to be a special year. They have a kid named Macklin Celebrini.
He's going to go. Macklin Celebrini? I love it.
Macklin Selecting name.

Speaker 1 He turned 17 in June or July, and he's dominating college hockey.

Speaker 1 17?

Speaker 1 It's big cat. It's nuts.
It's absolutely fucking nuts. And he plays all three zones.

Speaker 1 He's defensively very aware.

Speaker 1 And then the second pick is a kid, Cole Eiserman, and he's going to BU next year.

Speaker 1 So if Celebrini goes back to BU after being picked first overall, then Iserman and Celebrini will be playing together at BU as the first and second overall pick.

Speaker 1 So there are some young studs coming in the game. Yeah.
Jesus Christ. In 2006, he was born.

Speaker 3 Macklin Celebrini.

Speaker 1 You know what's funny is his dad

Speaker 1 works very closely with the Golden State Warriors and Steph Curry. If you Google his dad, I think he's like a performance performance and strength coach type thing.

Speaker 3 Director of Sports, Medicine, and Performance for the Golden State Warriors. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we're trying to get him on the pod to talk about his career and raising this soon-to-be NHL superstar.

Speaker 3 Rick Salabrini.

Speaker 1 Wow. Macklin Salabrini.
What a name. And his sister is 14, I believe.
She's the number one ranked tennis player in Canada. She's under 18.

Speaker 1 And then his brother's a freshman at BU with him, a good defenseman. So obviously there's something in the genes of this family.
Jesus. They got it all.
They hogged it all.

Speaker 1 All right, Biz, you're the best. Can't wait to see you.
See you in a couple weeks. Yeah, Dick Boyd.
No. You're the best.
I feel like I do that at least once every single time. He does.

Speaker 1 That's who he really wishes was on the show.

Speaker 1 All you people listening. No, it's not true.

Speaker 3 We specifically requested Ryan Whitney because

Speaker 3 we knew Biz was going to be on TV tonight. And how?

Speaker 1 How could that be true when you're the number one PMT guest? You literally the number one.

Speaker 1 I take it back. I've taken a lot back this episode.
Yeah. Well, I apologize for that.
I wish I could say that was a bit, but I literally just did it. I wish I wasn't a bit.

Speaker 3 I wish I still had my coin because I would give it to you now to make you feel better.

Speaker 1 So you have two guys. You're four guys that gave it to you.
I'm great guys. Hank, you want to give you a good job? Hank's my king, but you guys are good dudes.
Hank, you want to give your coin?

Speaker 1 You get my coin. Two.
All right. Thanks, Hank.
All right. So Wit's got two cups.
Well, two coins that could

Speaker 1 almost a runner-up for the Oilers. Actually, I'm giving mine to the Tibson there.
There. Oh,

Speaker 1 no. That was a bad one.
That's another good one. That's another good one.
That's another good one.

Speaker 1 All right, boys. All right.
See ya. Thanks, Switzer.

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Okay, let's wrap up with Jimbo's.

Speaker 1 Henry. I have a Jimbo.

Speaker 3 I always take the same number in the lottery ball. Fuck it.

Speaker 1 But for some reason, I didn't take it.

Speaker 3 And now all my friends are making fun of me because I'm a fucking moron. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That hurt, Hank. I have a Jimbo.
but I need to get

Speaker 1 a travel credit card.

Speaker 1 That sounds awful. No, for like personal travel.
Oh, oh, to get points. Yeah.
Oh. My points game is terrible.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's all about the points. What's the best points? Five miles?

Speaker 3 I'll figure it out. That's right.

Speaker 1 No, Chase, you're going to get so many overly detailed extra.

Speaker 3 I can refer you, little bro.

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I had a realization yesterday when I was booking some personal travel because I don't book that much personal travel.

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving and Christmas. A man like

Speaker 1 family vacation. Family.
Do you guys care about family? Golf?

Speaker 1 Family.

Speaker 1 What are we talking about? Cali?

Speaker 1 I'm going to San Diego to see my family.

Speaker 3 Oh, Torrey Pines? Golf.

Speaker 1 With my family. Torrey Pines.
I bet you get some good points for golf.

Speaker 1 Yeah, whatever. I got to figure that out.

Speaker 3 There was definitely a golf credit card out there.

Speaker 1 It was at a bar for Halloween. A bunch of boys boys in the bathroom, and a guy walked in with sunglasses and a blind walking stick.
I asked if he was Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 1 Luckily, he didn't hear me because months later, I realized he was actually blind as he used the walking stick to get to the urinal. I promptly left the bar.
Oh, no.

Speaker 3 Well, you could have just left the bathroom, and then what is he going to do? Find you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, good news is he doesn't know what you look like.

Speaker 1 Right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's also Halloween. It's Halloween.
You can't.

Speaker 3 It's Halloween. You know what, though? You got to have a sense of humor.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to laugh. And he knows it's Halloween.
It's Halloween. Also,

Speaker 1 I feel like maybe he was doing the costume. Well, yeah, like, I think maybe he was actually, I think you were right.
I think he was just going so far into character.

Speaker 3 It would have been funny if the blind guy was like, what, do we all look the same to you? Yeah. And, like, actually told you you were being racist.
Yeah. Not blindest.
That would have been funny.

Speaker 1 I was flying with my dad to Chicago for the Wisconsin Rutgers game a few weeks back. As we were in the airport for a 7 a.m.

Speaker 1 flight, our flight was delayed five hours, and I went on the app to see if we can switch to an earlier flight. I saw that there was one at nine for no extra cost, so I switched it.

Speaker 1 Turns out the flight was at 9 p.m.

Speaker 1 Messing up travel when your dad puts you in charge of the plans is brutal.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, but your dad just looks at himself as being like, okay, that's that's my fault for putting my son in for raising you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe you sit there and get a James Harden scoop. That's sitting at the airport for that long, just cancel everything, just leave, go home.
All right, last one.

Speaker 1 Last week, one of my good friends was so generous to offer me tickets to go to a college football game with him.

Speaker 1 It would have been a great time and a lot of fun, but I declined because there was a World Series game playing at the same time, and I was expecting my team to be there.

Speaker 1 Well, my team got bounced in the CS, and now I feel like an asshole. Oh, man, it was a lot of fun.
We were on the field. It was sick.
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 Being on the field for a major college football game is so much fun, especially when you don't have any other obligations like your team in the World Series.

Speaker 1 You made that narrative. No one said that.
You threw on Monday and you said, no, I'm good. Correct.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 1 Because there was a World Series. You are the one who said the why.
No, no, no, no. I know why you were good.

Speaker 1 But, like, you don't like that. You don't like football? That's that's you don't like football, Max?

Speaker 1 I watched a football game. Hmm.
Hmm.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, you watched it? Where?

Speaker 1 At a bar.

Speaker 1 Oh, the bar that you thought you were going to watch the World Series at?

Speaker 3 That's not true.

Speaker 3 Why did you not go?

Speaker 1 Because it was cold.

Speaker 1 Memes like that.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to see the atmosphere. You wanted to get drunk.
I just wanted to see the series. He wanted to see the Phillies play in the World Series.
I'm right.

Speaker 1 Max can say I'm not right, but I'm 100% right.

Speaker 3 You just spent 20 seconds trying to explain why you didn't go, and you were unable to think of a lie. That was wrong.

Speaker 1 I tested before game six. He thought there was no chance the Diamondbacks were winning two two at the bank.

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 1 correct. I did not think that we were going to lose two at the bank.
I didn't think it. I didn't think it.
I didn't think it. You, and that's why you didn't go to the game.

Speaker 1 Also, not true.

Speaker 3 You still haven't said why you didn't go.

Speaker 1 I wanted to, you know, see the town bars, you know, see what the atmosphere is like at the bars.

Speaker 1 No booze in the stadium.

Speaker 3 Interesting. That is valid.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's valid.

Speaker 1 But that's not why.

Speaker 3 I would not enjoy going to a college family. That's not why.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no booze in the the stadium is crazy. It's stupid.
I agree. But that's not why.
We all know why.

Speaker 1 I don't know what to do here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank, have you ever gotten this? No. Has your number ever come up?

Speaker 1 I don't have a number. Yeah, you do.

Speaker 3 Numbers, 17.

Speaker 3 18.

Speaker 1 31.

Speaker 1 I'll go with.

Speaker 1 Now I'm like 20. I'll go 71.
I'm in. First, 17.

Speaker 1 I know. Memes? You ever gotten it?

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 Pre-Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 I'm not.

Speaker 1 This is too much. I shouldn't have taken this much off my chin.

Speaker 1 Beard-wise. I'm seeing myself shamed.

Speaker 1 It's fat. It's very 72.

Speaker 1 Easy.

Speaker 1 89.

Speaker 1 89

Speaker 1 who's gonna be the first to get it would have been hank on Sunday. I think it's gonna be Jake.

Speaker 3 Jake just finds a way.

Speaker 1 We'll see. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Jake finds a way.

Speaker 1 Okay, we'll see everyone on Friday. Love you guys.

Speaker 1 shy away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your lover.

Speaker 1 Baby,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 on.

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone.

Speaker 1 Look at your chances.

Speaker 1 He lets the state

Speaker 1 upset it,

Speaker 1 but I need some little way.

Speaker 1 Telling the lights okay,

Speaker 1 stay after me.

Speaker 1 It's no better to be safe, but sorry, but sorry, that's all sorry.

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 up

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 Things that you say

Speaker 1 every little I've won Just to play my worries away

Speaker 1 You're all the things I've got to remember You're shy and away

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 up.

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone.