Ryan Whitney, NFL Trade Deadline, James Harden Traded Again, CFB Talk And More

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Today is Wednesday, November 1st, and the Washington Commanders are doing a fire sale.

Yeah, everything must go.

Half price.

I was trying to engineer a trade of sweat and young to the Niners

in exchange for Kyle Shanahan to come back home. Did not work.
Congratulations, Big Cat. Let me be the first to congratulate you on getting Montez sweat.
He's a fine young player. Thank you.
Second round pick. I'm happy.
You're happy. I think we both fleece.
I think it was a double fleecing. A double fleecing.
I am. I don't know what I feel.
I don't know what I feel. Are you hungry? I'm always hungry.
I could always eat. but yeah, I don't know what I feel.
I don't know what I feel. Are you hungry? I'm always hungry.
I could always eat. But, yeah, I don't know what I feel in the fact that I like to move because I assume every trade like this, you assume that there is a deal in place to re-sign Montez Sweat.
So everyone's like, why would you trade a second-round pick for a guy who's going to be a free agent? Obviously, if he becomes a free agent, this is the dumbest deal ever. I am assuming that Ryan Poles has already worked it out with his agent, and there's a plan in place to sign him long term, which, if that's the case, I like the deal because you probably aren't going to get a Montez Sweat in the second round who can help your defense right away next year.
But there's also the part of the Bears are in this weird no-man's land now where they added a very good player, but they're also trying to lose. The Bears are all in.
This is an all-in move that you just made. It's a little bit confusing.
If they had traded Jalen Johnson, then I would have been fully confused. I would have been like, what's going on? Because there was rumors that Jalen Johnson would get traded, which made no sense because I'm a firm believer in when you're tanking as a football team it is important to tank but it's also important to hold on to your good players yeah so you got a good player you got a very good young player um i think he's worth a second rounder i'm i was surprised to get a second rounder as long as they resign him but i i think there's no chance in hell that he just becomes a free agent at the end of this that would make it the dumb trade ever.
I think it actually would be the dumbest trade besides the Louisiana purchase. And Chase Claypool.
And Chase Claypool. This would be by far the worst trade of all time.
But at the very least, you could franchise tag him. So you at least get a year and a half.
But that also doesn't make sense to spend a second-round pick on a player that's going to play, what, 24 games for you? Yeah, no, he's got a long-term deal let me be the first to report that montez sweat has signed a long-term deal with chicago bears and he's happy to be here and he's happy to be here yeah no uh that was the the the my confusion i i am a believer in polls but the confusion was when i immediately saw the trade and i said to myself i like this trade because i i do think like if a guy is proven as an nfl talent it's more important than a draft pick yes uh because he's been there done that you know he's going to be good you're not just going off of measurements and hypotheticals uh but my explanation of how i like the trade the fact that they are going to sign him to a long-term deal and he's better than a second round player that you going to get. A lot of people pointed out that it was the exact same reasoning I used with Chase Claypool.
But he is actually good. That's a big difference.
And he's not a head case either. That's a big difference.
And he's played through injuries. He's been a bright spot on the commander's defense.
I've been saying for the last, what, year and a half, I would rather keep Sweat than Young. And then two weeks ago, I was like, fuck it, trade both of them.
So I'm glad they listened to at least what my train of thought was because this it's a full-blown fire sale it's a rebuild and i think i'm setting a record i think all my teams are rebuilding right now that's actually not bad though but to have all of i was talking to max earlier like all my teams stinking kind of rebuild as much shit as i give max he's got so many fun teams to root for. And having expectations is fun.
He just got rid of James Harden, which we'll get to. And now it's like every team is in a rebuild.
Batum. Batum.
Batum. It's very – Jason Batum.
Are you thinking of Kratum? Are you thinking of Tatum? No, he's thinking of Batum. Jason Tatum? I've never heard anyone call him Batum.
Jason Tatum. I mean, it's spelled as Tatum.
Yeah. Yeah, but he's French.
Yeah, there's Batum. I don't see any.
All right, wait. So what are you saying? No, I was just saying, like, I'm fighting a rebuild on all sides, with the exception of the Capitals, which are – they're the one team that might – should be rebuilding.
Right. But they're just putting off a rebuild to engineer Ovi to get to the goal record, which I'm fine with.
But it's tough. I traded it all for the James Madison Dukes.
That's what I did. What did it cost me? Everything.
Yeah, but here's how you rank it as a sports fan. You obviously, number one, you want your teams competing for titles, but I think number two is rebuilds.
Number three is no man's land. And now I get to root for the Bears to lose all their games so that second-round pick basically becomes a first-round pick.
Look, we're aligned. We're fully aligned.
I like that. I am a believer in polls, except for the one Hank put in the parking lot.
But I think that he definitely has a plan in place to get a big extension for Sweat. And then with Young going out to the Niners, I would like to officially announce I'm all in on the Niners.
Now I Trent Williams, chase young, Kyle Shanahan. I said this on, on Monday's show, but if you're a fan of a shitty franchise, the best you can do sometimes is to just root for your guys to win somewhere.
So I'm, I'm going to put a big future on the Niners. They're my team.
They're friends of the program, Hank. Yes.
As you know very well. Kittle, all those guys.
Now's the time to buy in on the Niners because it's buy low, sell high. And I like what the Niners did in the fact that their secondary has been getting torched.
And they're like, you know what we'll do? We'll just make sure the quarterback can never throw. Yeah.
Just beef it up even more. Just run the ball.
Just defense is going to be awesome. Yeah.
Play with a lead. This, you know what this is? They're making it so they never have to play from behind.
Yes. And just have their defense be nasty as hell.
Yes. Yes.
So, yeah, the NFL trade deadline, it's ending right now, actually, as we're taping this. And that was the Josh Dobbs to the Minnesota Vikings.
Yep. I feel like Josh Dobbs probably pissed about this because he's got to keep playing football.
And it hasn't gone well recently. Well, the best thing he can hope for is their backup in Minnesota who's starting this week.
Right, Jaron Hall. Jaron Hall, he steps in and plays well.
Or Nick Mullins when he comes back. And then he just gets to chill up in Minnesota for a while.
We do get to watch Kyler Murray. Yeah.
That you you would assume i think clayton toon might be starting for the cardinals this week he might be starting this week and then murray yeah next week yeah and then was there any other big trades uh the jets just signed roger saffold to the practice squad with the intent to promote him to the active roster oh he was on the bills he was on the bills last year so donovan people. DeTrois.
Yeah, who, by the way, that was the most maddening Monday Night Football game I've ever watched is someone who bet on the Lions. They should have won by 50.
It's impossible. And they just let the Raiders hang around, even though the Raiders are dog shit.
They're very bad. They're hard to watch.
Jimmy Garoppolo had two missed passes to Devontae Adams that would have netted, I think, like 160 yards worth of touchdowns. And one, he just threw the ball out of bounds by like 10 yards.
The other, he overthrew him by five. Jimmy is, I feel like Jimmy's not old Jimmy.
Yeah, he's not old Jimmy. I have a thing with Devontae Adams.
So it's become everyone is like, oh, poor Devontae Adams. He should be a free agent.
I actually liked Robert Mays, who's a very good writer. He had a great idea, which would be awesome, that we vote every single trade deadline, and one player just gets, like the best player, it's one player in the entire league gets released, and the team gets a draft compensation, and then that player immediately becomes a free agent.
So Devontae Adams was a free agent right this second, and the Raiders get a draft pick, like they get the 33rd pick, that would rule. Counterpoint, he would go to the Chiefs, and we'd be like, what the fuck? That's probably true.
But Devontae Adams, so I feel bad that he's playing for a bad team, but he wanted to go to the Raiders. Yeah, he made that choice.
He said that. He said he wanted to be closer to the West Coast with his family.
he obviously also said he wanted to play with Derek Carr who then got uh who's now on the Saints but it wasn't like Devontae Adams like he had a say in in how this all went down you can make a choice right and then your choice is okay you're gonna opt for a big contract somewhere else and knowing that the NFL is a business you might not be around the same guys for forever. I think there should be an end-of-season award to either most misused guy or guy that you just feel bad for.
Really good player that you feel bad for, but looked like they were trying their hardest this year. They get a vacation somewhere.
I don't feel bad for Devontae Adams. You willingly chose to go to Josh McDaniels.
I respect what Devontae Adams did after the game, which was they they asked him like, how are you feeling right now? And he just said I don't have words that I can say that won't get me in trouble. So these are my words that I'm going to say right now because I don't know how else to express myself other than saying fuck this entire organization.
That happens all the time on the show and then we make the person say it. Yeah.
we get to the bad points then we get then we get to justin fields is wearing sunglasses i don't like that or p and v's or p and v's yeah right like this is how we go so credit to vante adams for for holding his tongue there the lions by the way jameer gribbs is awesome i love that they like they i think they just decided like this is going to be jameer Gibbs coming out party. We're going to game plan everything.
He was sensational.

And the Lions, it felt like they corrected.

Like, they should have won by more.

They still have some things to clean up.

But you obviously needed to see a win after that Ravens loss,

and especially them going into the bye week.

And don't wear those jerseys anymore.

Yeah, they're gross.

The Fifty Shades of Grey ones.

I didn't really like their throwback helmets either.

No.

I like the Lions. The Lions have great uniforms.
The Lions normal jerseys are their throwback uniforms. I feel like they haven't changed that much in the last like 30 years.
But they got, there were some bad plays by the Lions in the red zone. Jared threw that one pick six.
And then his next pass, I think went, I think he threw it out of bounds and tried to hit the mascot with it. The next throwaway that he had.
So the pick six was bad. Was it Reynolds that got tackled? Yeah.
Well, he made a great catch, and then he just fumbled the ball. There's no physical way that the human body can – not Reynolds, which was a running back that got tackled and fumbled, and you couldn't see the replay.
That might have been Jameer Gibbs, yeah, where they kept on zooming in, and they're like, is the shin there? The way that the human body is built, there's no chance that he wasn't down. But they didn't have a camera angle showing that he was down.
Which is crazy. So they gave it to the Raiders.
Put sensors on everyone. Yeah, sure.
Like Madden style. Yeah.
Have them all wear those suits during games, and then we can tell. Yeah.
I think maybe we're all wrong about Josh McDaniels. Maybe he is an offensive genius, but maybe there's just no players that are good enough to play football at the level that Josh McDaniels expects in order for his, his offense only works if it's Tom Brady and Randy Moss running it.
And if it's anybody else, then it just looks like the biggest nightmare you've ever seen. So this is Josh McDaniels is actually like Van Gogh, but we've only given him a pack of crayons i think in in 200 years we're gonna look back and be like josh mcdaniels was so far ahead of his time a misunderstood misunderstood genius 100 the most misunderstood genius because that guy sucks he sucks he sucks he sucks he sucks all right anything else with trade deadlines or NFL? Max, you said that the Eagles did nothing? Like Kevin Byard.
All right. I was seeing if you were going to catch that.
Yeah. Yeah.
You got it. I was hoping for more.
I was definitely hoping for more. Max walked by and he just goes, Patrick Chertain's going to be an Eagle.
I didn't believe that. I was just saying.
You were like, what's going to happen? I was like like maybe patrick tain eagle nothing ever happens at the nfl trade deadline that's the one common denominator like the big news that we had this year was like two defensive ends getting traded yeah this was actually the most this was probably the most that's happened in a trade deadline in a while because it was the commanders were like we're trading everyone and it wasn't just it was josh harris had a big day today today. Josh Harris, I'm going to say it, he won the sports equinox.

Yeah.

Because he traded Sweat and Young, got a second and a third round pick for him,

which is better than some people thought that we would get. Does it make you a little bit upset that Young went for a third rounder?

No, Chase Young only has one move.

Yeah, because I think Sweat's better.

Yeah, I do too.

So he traded those two guys, and then he also traded James Harden.

So big day for Josh Harris.

Huge day.

Thank you. Bishang only has one move.
Yeah, because I think that he stinks. I think sweat's better.
Yeah, I do too. So he traded those two guys, and then he also traded James Harden.
So big day for Josh Harris. Huge day.
Apparently he got on the phone with Steve Ballmer and was like, please, please take my man. Yeah, so I need you to do this.
So are you happy that James Harden is out of your life, Max? James Harden, by the way, was traded at 2 in the morning, probably the biggest win for Woj ever. Where do you think James Harden was when he found out? Strip club? Strip club.
Strip club for sure. I know where Woj was.
They brought out like a bottle service for him in the flashing lights that just said, you are an L.A. clipper.
I know where Woj was because I want to give credit to Woj because he's got a rivalry with Shams and Woj getting up there in age. This was the pinnacle of Woj.
This was Woj asserting himself, I still got it. He dropped a 12-minute podcast today, so I listened on the way to work.
Woj said that he was at the airport, at Newark Airport, getting ready to fly to LA, and someone told him, don't get on that flight. And he sat in the airport until 2 in the morning, then went home and took a shower, and then went and took a flight the next morning.
Because he didn't want to miss it. He's like, I didn't want to be on a plane for when this news came down.
That is, he gets journalist of the year. It's commitment.
I mean, can you imagine anything worse than sitting at the gate of your plane, ready go and then being like, nope, I have to now sit in the airport waiting for this news to drop and then go home for 10 minutes, take a shower, and then get on another plane? If you were Woj, was there like a small part of you that was like, man, what if this flight crashes? Yeah. And I was told not to get on it because I broke the James Harden news.
Yeah. Yeah.
But Woj deserves good you got it two in the morning good for Woj he absolutely deserves it and then Shams woke up and i think he had to like tack on like six hours late on the news yeah Shams is never gonna sleep again yeah he's gonna become an insomniac you can't do that like Woj just he basically said hey i ain't going anywhere this is my block James Harden individually has done so much for Woj's career just with all the trades yeah and trade demands that he's made over the years so that was my question is is james harden like he's not the goat but he's got goat tendencies because he somehow has gotten traded now three times where everyone's like he's got no leverage he's lost all his leverage he he deserves at least respect for being how bad of like a teammate employee he is, right? Yeah. He's the goat at that.
And he also eats everything like a goat. I think that he's done a great job of forcing his way out of teams in new and creative ways.
This one, everyone was like, no, he's got no leverage. Daryl Moore would never trade him.
He'll always wait for the deal. What are we, one week into the season? His leverage was like, that guy's a liar.
I'm going to go to China, put on a basketball camp, and call my boss a liar. And that's the last move that I have.
And it worked. And Dale Amore probably was like, oh, Tyrese Maxey's playing really well.
And this team could be good. And you know what? The only thing that could ruin it is having James Harden hang out in their locker room.
Yeah. So I have a question.
So smart move by them. I have a question for you, Big Cat.
Yeah. Right now, LA Clippers, they've got Kawhi.
Yeah. Super team.
They've got Westbrook. Super team.
They've got playoff P, Paul Joyce, who's, by the way, getting back on his bully shit this year. And now they add the final piece in James Harden.
My question for you is, how many balls are there? There's only one ball. There's just one ball.
This team is loaded. This team is hilarious.
They need to bring John Wall back. I can't wait to watch this team win one playoff series, have all VSPN be like, watch out for the Clippers, and then lose like four to one against the Nuggets.
I don't even know if they're going to win one playoff series. They might win one.
I'm going to give them one just because I want to see it for the discourse. They're the funniest team in the NBA by far.
I don't think that there's a close second either. And I don't think Westbrook and Harden like each other anymore.
Remember when they played briefly again? Was it with the Rockets? I can't keep track. I would be shocked if they like each other.
Or I tell you what, they'll probably say all the right things, do all the right things. They'll be like, uh-oh, this is title town.
Watch out. We got a super team.
And then things will blow up within probably a month or two, I would imagine. Yeah, it does.
It does feel like, I mean, playoff P is basically the guy that you need to like, he's got to be the glue guy. Yeah.
I think he does. Because you have Kawhi who we know his history.
He's a robot, but the robot sometimes malfunctions. And then Westbrook and Harden.
Yeah, playoff p has to sit everyone down and be like i'm i'm the captain but as a robot do you think that kawaii is kind of built for this type of situation where if you know if you are a computer program you don't care who's entering the code yeah you don't care who's pushing the buttons you just take the input and then you do your thing yeah no balmer just has to like go into the mainframe and say pass ball to james harden now yeah or why is like okay i got it blue screen to death on kawaii uh the other the other big part of this uh trade uh and a hilarious part is uh your guy max furcon cork Mez you love him right he's fine Korkmaz is the uh direct opposite of james harden because he has now asked for a trade from the sixers three times and been not denied every single time so in 2018 he asked for a trade because he didn't get playing time they're like nah we're not going to do it in uh 2023 last winter january he asked for a trade they're like nah we're not going to do it you're corkmez you're here forever this time he asked for a trade and both the clippers and sixers said no that's tough that's tough like what's going on with this guy i don't know but you got you got to see like harden getting traded and you're like what why won't you do that for me i want everything for me like i don't think I've ever seen a guy just keep asking for trades and the Sixers are like he after the 2018 he re-signed with the Sixers this poor guy I've also never seen a bench player ask for a trade so many times like and never seen a guy ask for a trade and both sides say no I guess you should be happy that the Sixers said no because that means they want him but the Clippers were like no we don't want him so he set up the trade he wanted he was like throw me in this James Harden trade and both sides like no thank you no you're too you will you will blow up this deal if you're you're in it that's tough but I mean the poor guy so I'm starting to think more about the Clippers losing the first round take uh James Harden when he was on the nets he wasn, he wasn't the primary ball handler, right?

Yeah, and they had the season where Kyrie got hurt,

and then the game against Game 7 against the Bucs in the second round that Kevin Durant almost single-handedly got them there,

but James Harden had also gotten hurt that series.

He was playing okay up until then.

We're also forgetting that James Harden in the playoffs is not –

he doesn't want to play anymore. What if James Harden – He wants to go home.
had some good games what if yeah but he what max that's the thing about james he does not care about winning championships and i'm not saying this is a bad thing about james harden i'm saying it's somewhat relatable where you get paid less money in the playoffs there's no real incentive to win unless you're a guy that cares about winning james harden i think does not care about NBA titles. He just wants to go home.
He's done his bid. His season's over.
He fulfilled his contract that year. Now he wants to go hang out and party.
Like, I get it. I get why James Harden does it.
I feel like most professional athletes that are that good are not wired like that. They're wired to want to compete and win.
But James Harden, I feel like, is just like, you know what? I'd rather just go hang out on my couch. It would rule if James Harden was awesome in the midseason tournament because he's not at the end of the year.
Yeah. And he was just like the greatest midseason tournament player of all time.
He might be because that counts as a regular season game, right? Yeah. Yeah.
It's right in the middle of the season. You don't have to worry about getting on a yacht.
He's good. So you're good.
You're happy, obviously, Max. You got some you got some flexibility too you got you got picks you got picks you got picks so somebody comes available at some point yeah he got bait him um the only thing i woke up and i was upset because it was kind of like a strong arm of like darren mori was like i'm not gonna trade him without terrence man and the clippers were like well we're not giving up terrence up Terrence Mann.
And I don't like not winning that battle. You got placed.
But at the end of the day, you got four picks. I guess you got a couple depth pieces.
Rocco's not the player that he once was. But you got a bully.
Morris is a bully. Yeah, you got a dog.
I think that's all he does. That's fine.
That's an intimidating line if you can put Pat Bev and Morris I think it's Marcus Morris on the floor. The goal is though to put the ball in the hoop.
Yeah, but you like some intimidation. Marcus Morris is like 100 years old.
He is a bully. He's a bully.
Max, he's a dog but now you got two dogs. Max, you're building a football team for basketball.
That's fine. And you got assets if someone else becomes available in the middle of the season.

Morey can go make another play.

And you have time to...

Like if it waited too long and then somebody came up and then you didn't have any assets,

then you wouldn't have any more moves left in the chamber.

Sixers could be back and Tyrese Maxey's MVP.

That's the end.

The whole story is that Tyrese Maxey is playing like an all-star right now. But you already have an MVP.
I know, but like. On your team right now.
What if you could have two? No, you only have one. Well, you could have one last year and then one this year.
Right, but last year was kind of. Was he really the MVP? Yeah, he was.
Okay. The answer is yes.
The real test is it's always like coming from your direct opponent. Are you more fearful of the Sixers this year, Hank? Or would you be more fearful? Hank's living in Porzingis heaven right now.
If they still had James Harden, would you be more fearful? What? Hank's got no rings, he said. 2008? He just farted on the big three.
I was a freshman in high school. He just farted on it.
Yeah, I'm just saying you're acting like the Celtics are this sick team. You haven't won shit yet.
Sixers haven't won anything. Neither are the Celtics.
Okay, but the question was are you scared of the Sixers? Are you more scared of them now than you were 24 hours ago? Well, he wasn't scared of them 24 hours ago, so how could he be more scared? But you're less scared now. You can't be less scared.
You can't be less. It can be the same.
James Harden won a game for them in the playoffs against the Celtics last year. Okay, maybe he's less scared.
Batum is not going to do that. The four picks that you're probably going to amount to nothing are not going to do that.
James Harden, Factor Fiction, won game one for them last year, and you were like, we're going to win this season. You can't do this after everything bad that you say about James Harden.
You can't say, like, James Harden sucks, James Harden sucks, and then you now are like, well, James Harden won a game for you guys last week. But, like, I'm less scared because he's on the team, and he has the chance to beat us.
But he was never going to play. I think Hank's less scared.
I believe him. I believe him, too.
He seems less scared. He's not, though.
He seems like it. Hank was terrified yesterday.
And, yeah, Porzingis is – the Celtics are unbelievable. I got home last night.
It was like 620. It's kind of weird.
Central time getting home. I forget.
I'm like, oh, yeah, Celtics are on. I'm like, oh, shit, the game's already on.
It was already over quarter wizards well they're up like jordan pool 40 points hilarious bass jordan pool just shoots up everything yeah the wizards i mean it's obviously the wizards poverty you don't have to say that part of it you can just say jordan pool is jordan pool is the perfect player to have on your team if you're trying to tank to have him as like the guy on your team it doesn't get any better than that are you scared scared of Tyrese Maxey? No. Why? What's there to be scared of? He's emerging as one of the best guards in the NBA.
Do you have anyone emerging? Now he has the opportunity that that backcourt is his. Oh.
Good point. I feel like the last year and a half, Max, he's trying to make fetch happen.
He's like, Tyrese Maxey, MVP. Emerging.
MVP. Now, like, this is real.
No, he is playing incredible. This is real.
I know he has started. He was the Eastern Conference Player of the Week.
Yeah. Of the week.
First week. There's only been one week.
Hang the banner. Of the week.
Hang the banner. There's only been one week.
If the MVP was given out today, he would win it. That's actually a fact, or at least in the Eastern Conference.
Yeah, he won the Eastern Conference Player of the Week MVP.

Hank was not scared until he said he's the Player of the Week.

And now I saw some fear creep in.

Max, you've got to go back to the drawing board on that.

Anytime you do a Player of the Week, it's not great.

But that's all you can base it off of.

Right.

What we have seen so far this year, Tyrese Maxey is the best player in the Eastern Conference.

Fact or fiction?

Probably fiction.

Well, he won the Eastern Conference Player of the Week. That is fact.
You're wrong, Hank. Weak.
Okay. Razul Douglas, by the way, just got traded to the Bills.
That's a good pickup for the Bills. Yeah, he's a quarterback.
Okay. A little baseball choose your own adventure.
World Series going on. There were people who were upset at me for watching Monday Night Football.
I was also watching the World Series, but the World Series is going on. Rangers, Diamondbacks, choose your own adventure.
PFT, go. Diamondbacks win.
Garcia's got an oblique. He does.
He's not going to play tonight. Is that official? No, I'm just making this up right now, but this is choose your own adventure.
Yep. He's not going to play doesn't doesn't want to win a real gamer would play through it dan harron cooks up something special i think so too i'm gonna say it's a shootout oh yeah i think it's gonna be 10 8 diamondbacks okay game for 10 8 diamondbacks um if anything crazy happens we will uh record something if anything crazy happens.
If there's like a anything crazy happens. You'll have known.
Well, yeah, you'll have known because we'll put it in. If there's like a no-hitter in the World Series, that would be crazy.
That would be crazy. It's been almost a year since that's happened.
I think it's going to be 8-1 D-backs. Whoa.
I think Pham goes yard twice. Whoa.
Longoria has two hits. Whoa.
Hank? I'm going to go 6-5 in the 14th. What? Wait, but that might be crazy.
I don't want to stay up that late. Who wins? D-backs.
D-backs. Well, if it's a walk-off, it's D-backs.
True. That's on me.
Yeah. Walk-off D-backs.
I knew they were at home. Yeah, you knew that.
You've been tuned in. Is the roof open? No.
It's closed. They've been closing it, I think.
Okay, I don't like that. Yeah, I don't either.
And also, the dehumidifier thing they did with the Diamondbacks, I don't like that either. They did it a few years ago.
Everyone stopped hitting home runs. I don't like it.
I saw Randy Johnson threw out the first pitch yesterday. That's cool.
It was very cool to Luis Gonzalez

to Luis Gonzalez. It was wild.

I was hoping so hard for a

bird. Yeah, no, no to rock.

I kind of forgot that the Yankees had a

three to two lead going into the ninth of that game.

I thought it was tied. What? I watched an old

video. Young and Kim.
No, wait.

Oh, you're talking about 2001. Yeah, no, they

should have won that world. They were up three to two.

Yes. Yes.
Going into the

nine eleven. Yes.
Should we have the robot

I'll see you next time. video young kim no wait oh you're talking about 2001 yeah no they should have won that world series three to two yes yes going into the night 9 11 yes should we have the robot umps discussion there's some bad calls yesterday yeah there were but i always think they even them out i they i saw someone was saying that there is the technology they're working on that you can you can basically tap your helmet and they can go check it real quick so it doesn't slow down the game which which I'm in favor of.
The immediate review for it? Yeah, the immediate review. But then, I don't know.
I like the human element of umpiring. I do like getting mad at umps.
And I also like getting, you know, you start a game. It's like, okay, this is the strike zone.
Now we've got to adjust. You know, it's not uniform across the board.
It does add to the gamesmanship. If you're, like're planning out how you're going to attack somebody at the plate and you know that this one-up has a very wide strike zone, then you can pitch them accordingly.
That's how the Atlanta Braves won so many games. They had Eric Gregg calling pitches like three inches off the plate every day, so Maddox would get up there and just be like, okay, backdoor cutter, all that.
I'm a firm believer that if you could add replay without slowing down the game whatsoever, which is basically impossible, then I'm for it. But it's impossible.
Yeah. I do like the idea that you can get mad at somebody and blame a loss on somebody.
Yeah. That's always right.
If you take it away, then you don't have anything to get mad at. All right.
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The college football playoff rankings are coming out. We are taping this earlier.
It's Halloween, so I gotta go do Halloween with my kids. I don't think there's...
The first rankings are always funny because people freak out. There's still so much football left to be played.
If I had take a guess i would think that ohio state will be one and then it'll be georgia and michigan in a two three i don't know they're probably georgia then michigan and then four would be florida state five would be washington would be my guess ohio state only because they do probably have the best resume on paper with a penn state win and a notre dame road win. Yeah, so that's probably going to be the only debate.
I think it might be Georgia, but I would be shocked. Yeah, I don't think Ohio State's better than Georgia.
I'm just saying resume-wise. They put these rankings out knowing that people get mad about numbers, and then there's a lot of season left, and they know that if a certain team, like if Georgia beats Alabama, then Georgia's probably going to become the number one team in the entire country.
Right, right. And, yeah, it could very well be that Ohio State, they could just go exactly as the AP top 25 or the coaches poll where it's Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, Florida State, Washington, straight down in a row.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do that as well. I just think that if you're just looking at resumes, Ohio State having that win at Notre Dame and against Penn State is better than what any win Michigan's done so far and Georgia yeah and Georgia yeah I want to see simulated brackets for next year that's what I want to see is like what would the matchups look like right now if we were doing a 12-team playoff give me a simulated bracket for you're saying this year for next year.
This year for next year. Because next year, this is the last one.
This is the last four-team playoff. Thank God we're going to get to the 12-team playoff.
I'm excited, though. And I think I talked about it on this show.
I did officially switch my Washington future to Oregon before last weekend. I do think Oregon, what they did in Utah on Saturday, that doesn that doesn't happen to utah they bullied yeah they bullied them oregon it's weird because even though they lost to washington they look like they're the best team in that conference right because washington has had what is it two weeks in a row where they've had these wins that feel like holy shit i can't believe we got out of there with a win arizona stayed at home and stanford on the road they both were uh like one score games in the fourth quarter and it feels like something's a little off they have a few big games coming up uh i though this weekend coming up obviously everyone's gonna talk about bama lsu um which fun trivia fact you ready for this the last so jaden daniels obviously beat nick saban last year uh when alabama went to baton rouge who is the last quarterback to beat nick saban two years in a row two years in a row same quarterback two years in a row joe didn't do it so jimarcus russell uh who else is there tebow matt flynn cam newton oh we're not close we're not close the batch one one aaron aon one Aaron Murray Nope His name was Drew Brees at Purdue Wow so when he was at Michigan State Yes When Saban was at Yes Okay Isn't that crazy That is wild So J.D.
Daniels looking to be that second guy to beat Nick Saban two years in a row That's shocking Yeah I guess if you're a good college quarterback and you happen to be good enough to beat Nick Saban, you're probably going to go to the NFL. Or you'll come back and Nick Saban will beat you because he doesn't lose to teams twice in a row.
Or Nick Saban will have moved to a different school. Yes.
But yeah, so obviously everyone's talking about Bama LSU this weekend, which will be a great game. I'm pumped for the Big 12 this weekend.
The Big 12 going to big 12 is the funnest conference in the country it was basically the entire big 12 looked like garbage in september and now all these teams are playing incredible ball and you have uh kansas state going to texas you have oklahoma oklahoma state oklahoma state was dead uh in september and now they're back playing good ball like Kansas beating Oklahoma last week.

It's just utter chaos in the Big 12, and now we have a weekend where we're going to kind of try to figure everything out. Who did Oklahoma State lost to a Sunbelt school in week one, right? Oklahoma State, I don't know.
I know Iowa State's also in that category because Iowa State is 4-1 in the conference. They lost to Ohio.
Remember when Matt Campbell was getting yelled at by fans? They lost to – Oklahoma State lost to South Alabama week three. Yeah.
So my only qualm with the Big 12 schedule this weekend is Oklahoma, Oklahoma State. I know you're going to say this, and I agree.
They're playing it at 3.30 in the afternoon Eastern. Yep.
bedlam should be played at night it should be played at night i say it every year yep the sky in stillwater oklahoma is the darkest sky in the world it's neon black the atmosphere at bedlam at nighttime is crazy that game should be at night agree this is the last time they're going to do bedlam for a long time, right? Mm-hmm. In the foreseeable future, and we're getting it in the afternoon? It stinks.
That's an abomination to God. I saw it, and I had the exact same feeling of you.
I got instantly bummed out. I was like, why is this game at 2.30? That sucks.
It makes no sense. But shout out to Kansas.
Do you think that was the win against Oklahoma? That might have been the biggest win in the history of Kansas football they well that went against recent history uh I'm not counting that last year because Kansas didn't have very good team their team is like their team's good this year yeah well they and they're doing with their backup quarterback who stayed he lost the job and stayed I think he's a sixth year uh beard I believe his name is that was awesome they had not beaten Oklahoma in forever I don't even know the last time they beat Oklahoma I'm actually look it up because I think he's a sixth-year beard, I believe his name is. That was awesome.
They had not beaten Oklahoma in forever. I don't even know the last time they beat Oklahoma.
I'm going to actually look it up because I think it's something insane. But, yeah, that was an awesome, awesome game.
Lance Leipold is an awesome coach. He won a million games at Whitewater.
He went to Buffalo, now at Kansas. But, yeah, the Big 12 was fun.
There's just a bunch of teams that are all kind of written off for various reasons, poor play, injuries, and everyone's like, oh, it's going to be Texas. It's going to be Oklahoma.
And now we get a weekend where it's like it could very well not. Like I could see Oklahoma State beating Oklahoma.
I could beat Kansas State beating Texas. It could all up end.
Do we know what's happening with Quinn Ewers? Is he on track to play this I think that he is right uh I believe so all right this is the longest okay as of right now Malik Murphy is in line to start against Kansas State they killed BYU but he's he's not as good as Quinn Ewers uh it had been the first time Kansas had beaten Oklahoma since 1999 so this century that's crazy uh but but yeah Quinn Ewers being out against Kansas State is a big deal. Malik Murphy, he's playing right now for the transfer window.
Yeah. For the portal.
Yeah. That's what he's playing for because – It's weird they just don't – I get it.
Arch is a big name, but I feel like no one's even talked about it. Like, it's not even floated out there that he could potentially – Oh, it was last week.
It was? Yeah. So he was in line to take some snaps.
He's ready to go. But like Malik Murphy, I still pay attention to like Austin Sports Talk radio because I listened to it for like 10 years.
So I'm not a Longhorns fan, but I'm a fan of the takes around the program. It's like endlessly fascinating to me, the stuff that goes on at the University of Texas.
Murphy, a lot of people were saying, like, was better than Quinn Ewers when he got on campus. And they've been asking to see Malik Murphy.
I think what we've seen is that Murphy's not as good. But if he plays well this weekend, then next year there's going to be some football team that's going to be very, very excited to have Malik Murphy.
Yeah. And Kansas State's really good.
They're successfully pulling off a two- a two quarterback offense Will Howard and Avery Johnson I love that and it's they're just a good team I yeah I the big 12 is the most fun conference I think it will be going forward too because you have all these weird teams that are getting added um who have been added but uh it's a big weekend coming up it's a big weekend coming up I feel like we're gonna get know, if LSU can somehow take down Alabama and Tuscaloosa, they're now very much back in the picture. And then the entire Big 12 is going to get figured out.
You have the USC-Washington game, which should have like a billion points. Because USC, they were very close to being like, this team is fully quit.
And I didn't really like, there was a quote afterwards, Caleb Williams. I don't think their team has quit.
I feel like their defense has quit. I think maybe their whole team.
Like, they – I mean, their defense maybe hasn't quit because they've always been bad. So they're just playing the same.
Yeah. Lincoln Riley is kind of a genius because he can kind of just get into a situation where he will never be on the hot seat, but his defensive coordinator will always be on the hot seat.
Yeah, Alex Grinch. Cale Williams said after the Cal game, I had a few mistakes in the Notre Dame game, dumb passes that I threw.
Last week I had a 70% completion or something like that. This is talking about the game against Utah.
So I had one off day in the past three years. I don't know.
That's's what Ryan Day said, too. Yeah.
Just maybe just be like, you know what? We win as a team. We lose as a team.
Yeah. And now I don't know.
I don't know. I love the report that he's he's trying to get equity in an NFL team that drafts him.
Yeah, that's that's never going to happen. Never.
Never going to. If the Chiefs weren't going to give Patrick Mahomes equity with his longterm deal i think the nfl stepped in and said this can't happen in general but yeah for a for a rookie to come in and become the owner of a team would be ridiculous but my favorite

story in college football just got another wrinkle oh it's connor stallion story yes this this might

be it's like this and then the pole assassin story from texas from a couple years ago at halloween

my two favorite stories in the history of college football connor stallions was oh you got to throw

and It's like this and then the pole assassin story from Texas from a couple years ago at Halloween. My two favorite stories in the history of college football.
Connor Stallions was. Oh, you got to throw in our guy, the shark fucker.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
McElwain. Well, he's involved in this too.
And Bobby Petrino. Just Bobby Petrino.
Just him. Putting on the neck brace.
Everything. I mean, Hugh Freeze coaching from the hospital bed.
Yeah. I mean, college football delivers.
It just always delivers. It's good.
So Connor Stallions was photographed, or there was a still shot of him during the broadcast on the sidelines of the CMU-Michigan State game. Allegedly, it's him.
There was also one from a few years ago, yeah. And he's dressed up.
He's wearing sunglasses. He's got a little goatee going.
He got his hat pulled down real low. He's wearing what appears to be a sideline pass, like a pass that you would get if you were attending the game as a fan right maybe not as a coach and he's hanging out on the sidelines allegedly trying to steal Michigan State signs maybe passing Michigan State signs along to the CMU staff because he does have I think there are two coaches on CMU right now that he coached with in his past, or that he was around in his past.
So this story continues to get funnier and funnier and funnier to the point where it honestly wouldn't shock me if Stallions was like Jim Harbaugh's illegitimate son that he had 30 years ago and kept secret for so long just to bring along with the sole mission of making Michigan football national champion. That's exactly what he is.
He, so the only issue with the picture is I think the guy has hair in this picture. Connor Stallions doesn't either way.
It's very funny that now Connor Stallions is Kaiser. So say every, every, every fan base that hates Michigan will see Connor Stallions in every picture they look at.
Yeah. And be like, he was here.
Even so, the report about Ryan Day's brother, who I think he was in the CIA, and I think he does have a private investigating firm. But I think a Michigan fan just started the rumor that he was the one investigating the whole thing.
Like, I don't's actually factual i love that and and so all of these like all of these stories you could just say connor stallion did this that where was he on january 6th we don't know we don't know at all right he's crazy it's it's it's such a funny and the story's gonna flip-flop like 17 more times yeah there was um somebody made the point that if uh so cmu said that they're investigating whether or not that was him on the sidelines it seems to me that if cmu saw the picture and recognized him as a member of their staff they would just be like no that's our coach right like we i know exactly who that guy is you could look it up the investigation should probably take no longer than 30 minutes does anyone know this guy that is yeah hey guy? Who brought this guy to the party? Did he bring any chicks? Exactly. Yeah.
Exactly. The fact that they haven't said that tells me it probably is.
And I just love the story. So I'm just glad that Conor Stallions, I'm glad that he developed an insane fixation on Michigan football instead of politics or religion.
Yes. Because this would be very bad for the world if he wasn't just a college football freak.
Or if he was an incel, it could have been very bad. Yeah.
This could have gone so far. We should thank our lucky stars every day that Connor Stallions chose to wrote his 500-page manifesto on college football.
Right. And we also have had Jim Harbaugh finally spoke, and he gave some great Jimim harbaugh quotes so this is one of them he said uh jim harbaugh says michigan football is like field corn instead of a house plant he said quote house plants they have their functions they can be beautiful in the home they can bring great beauty and value to a home but the field corn just drop a seed in a crack of a sidewalk and it'll burrow down and come up with energy.
Then rise up in a stock like fashion and start producing. So that is what Michigan football is right now.
He also said, I just channel my inner William Wallace when it comes to keeping a one track mind focusing on football instead of everything else on the field. Yeah, that all checks out for Jim.
I like the fact that he's he's become a corn expert he's a field corn expert yep my theory is that uh harbaugh knows everything about michigan football yes at one point he probably looked up what the word maize went because they're the maize in blue found out it had something to do with corn and then did a deep dive on corn realized that corn is gritty can grow anywhere He's like okay that's why that's our color yes that's how come he knows so much about corn yes yes so he's the whole thing is great the story is incredible we also had the conclusion uh the sad conclusion to the race of 325 with brian forenz uh is going to continue coaching the rest of this year and then he's been fired slash is. I don't like that.
I don't like the pre-firing. I don't like anything.
It would be great if he just ripped off a bunch of scores here. What if they average 50 points a game for their last games? It's in his contract, right? He can say, hey, we won this many games.
I brought my average up. And if he shows that he's improving at the end of the season then his dad might just be like yeah you know what he's you're my best boy he's really coming to himself recently yeah um but yeah that's it is sad to see because i was i was actually hoping that iowa was gonna somehow make against all odds make the college football playoff averaging like 12 points a game it would have been great it would have been great uh okay so college football this weekend is going to tell us a lot very excited for it uh let's what you got one last thing yeah one last thing we have a new record speaking viala football the lowest over under total yes in the history of college football at wrigley at wrigley field i might go you should i'm gonna bet the over i bet the over when it was the previous lowest total against Minnesota.
I think it was 30 and a half. It was 32 and a half.
32 and a half. This is 29 and a half, right? It's Northwestern, Iowa.
I think I have to go to this game. When is this game? It's Saturday.
Saturday. You want to go? At Wrigley.
You want to go? I'll bet the over. They finally drive to Indiana to bet it.
Yeah, I'll drive to Indiana and bet it. You will.
That's the only part. I'm going to Northwestern.
This is 20 minute drive. This is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever done.
And I flew to Qatar for like 16 hours for a tie. Yeah.
I mean, yeah, this is dumber. This game is going to rock.
And they did finally figure it out. I was reminiscing.
I'm rocking with Iowa, though. The best was when they first did a game at wrigley a college game at wrigley they did it like maybe 10 12 years ago and they didn't measure the end zones correctly and they had to play the game going one way oh i think they should i think they should play this game going one way yeah it would be awesome yeah what about pick sixes they you can pick six it but you can't the offense starts.
That's sick. It's like a delayed penalty in hockey.
Yeah, I mean, they painted the lines and everything, and they're like, wait, the outfield wall goes right up to the end zone line. This is a problem.
So what would happen if you intercepted a pass? They flip it. No, but you return.
Like on the interception return, you're running all the way down the field. Somebody catches up behind you, forces a fumble, and it rolls like two yards into the end zone.
Yeah, I guess it would still kind of roll out, kind of, because it would hit the wall, so they'd rule it out. I'm trying to think that's bad for the over, though.
Yeah, but they have figured it out. They've played games at Wrigley since that they have figured out, but that was one of the funniest things ever, to play a game going one way.
They should do it for this game. Game of the year.
They should also play this game, like, on a 60-yard field. Yeah.
Or just give us some more points. Or just not at all.
Yeah, not at all. Okay.
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My hot seat is the brew crew, Chris Broussard. Yeah.
He was on TV today talking about the James Harden trade and he referred to him using the R word. To be fair, he had a first cousin who was developmentally disabled.
Correct. So kind of gets a pass on that.
And Stu Feiner was the one who broke the story. Yeah.
Stu Feiner was the one that tweeted the clip and then it, you know, all the media outlets picked it up. Suspended fire.
I think he said, is what, where does that, where does that word fall into the, I think he's okay. Punishment rankings.
It's kind of like the five-second rule with food. He said his apology within the same segment.
I think he's okay. Like, if he had not said anything, and then he had to issue an apology the next day, it becomes a bigger story.
He said his apology within 45 seconds of saying it. Okay.
Like, the ball was still live. So, no suspension? No suspension.
I don't know. I don't know.
I think he's going to get it.

He knew he didn't.

Like, he kind of wound up for it.

Yeah, I mean.

It was a hard one.

I don't think it's a suspension. It was an intrusive thought.

And his first cousin.

Yeah.

He literally immediately was like, think on my feet, first cousin.

Who, by the way, passed away.

Yes.

A month or two months ago.

He didn't know.

He didn't know when it was.

He was like a month, two months.

Oh, damn.

But as far as an excuse goes for why you said it, that might be the wildest reasoning behind why that word slipped out of your mouth. Yeah.
It's like, no, somebody that I love very deeply who passed away. Yeah, I was calling my cousin that.
Yeah. I was at his funeral.
He was also that. And we were dropping him left and right.
What? Go ahead. If you say sorry right away, you're okay.
Yeah, he was like, no. Don't Devante Adams.
Don't Devante Adams. No.
It's a trust tree. They were at the funeral talking about, damn, he reminds us of James Harden.
Yeah, right, right, right. They were talking about how much they were remembering him being like, yeah, he was so much like James Harden.
Well, it was actually, I think he was saying it to Nick Wright because Nick Wright had a take he disagreed with. Yeah.
So he went like old school. He always said, are you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I thought he said, is James Harden? No. Chris Roussard just slipped back into like sixth grade.
Yeah. It was crazy.
It's crazy. Then my cool throne is getting your butthole fingered.
Oh. Okay.
Good. Good.
Leo DiCaprio was at a party, and there's pictures of him getting his butthole fingered. So it's the new craze.
Is it the new craze? I mean, if Leo's doing it, it's kind of like. Yeah, I mean, it's the Shane Gillis Street guys can't have fun anymore.
What are we making a big deal about this? I think, was that TMZ that got it? Yeah, she was like, you know, she was going over the top down the pants a little swipe digging for gold yeah you guys um i don't want i don't know i don't want to bring more publicity to this but i'll just ask it do you guys know butthole barry no yeah yeah oh i know butthole barry yeah there's a guy named butthole barry who replies to our tweets with just his butthole. Yeah.
Well, we don't know. I think it's his butthole.
I don't see those. Because it's taken from such an angle.
Yeah, you guys are on. It's Butthole Barry.
He's all up in the mentions. You're not going to be able to find a picture online of a butthole from that angle.
The hottest 18-year-old out type shit. No, I think it's a dude.
Yeah, it's a dude. I mean, it's Elon's Twitter.
Elon's Twitter has become just like every day I go on. It's people arguing politics.
It's some person in China getting hit by a bus. And then it's a bunch of people being like, I'll suck your dick.
I'm the hottest girl on OnlyFans. And there's Butthole Barry.
PFT posting someone's leg getting cut off. Yeah.
It's a bad parking accident. That was violent.
It was bad. I watched someone get shot today on Twitter.
Yeah, you didn't want to see it. Like, straight up shot.
And I was like, what is going on right now? And these are all coming from Billy Football's account. Yeah.
Also, they did the classic, which I'm happy I kind of held off on getting the verified thing, where everyone's first paycheck from tweets was, like, so high. And now it's nothing.
I'm still getting paid. But not when you got paid the first no yeah they honeypotted us they honeypotted us yeah so so elon was like i'm gonna it's basically whatever he feels on that day he's like here's the money that's going to the content pool and then the rest of it i'm just going to keep for myself um i was talking to kate the other day uh by the way congratulations congratulations to kate had her baby up and the beave pat they had their baby good Good job.
Butch Cassidy. Not Buckshot.
No, it's Buckshot. Buckshot Cassidy.
Buckshot Alpha Force Cassidy is the official name. No, it is.
That's their real name. The real name actually rocks.
It does, yeah. Buckshot.
Buckshot, yeah. Kate apparently went to the liquor store the other day, and she was trying to find a special ingredient for a drink, so she was telling the guy at the liquor store, hey, this is what I'm looking for.
And she was pulling up a picture on her phone, scrolling through, and she showed him a picture of Butthole Berry by mistake. Yes.
Butthole Berry's butthole. Yes.
And the guy was like, what? And she was like, I swear to God, that's not my butthole. But he totally thought it was her butthole.
Yes, 100%. Yeah.
Butthole Berry's a menace. Menace.
Meem is a menace. Memes just sent us a video of a soccer player sliding into a guy's butt hole.
Oh, Memes! What the fuck? It says this post has been deleted. Memes just sent us a tweet on the group chat of a dude just sliding down.
It was Northwestern. He sent us Northwestern's locker room.
It was a soccer team. You fucking asshole.
It was trending this weekend. And Ravel's okay with that stuff.
Okay, your hot seat, Cool Throne. My hot seat is bet payoff season.
So somebody reminded me yesterday on Twitter that I've got a lot of bets to repay. Maybe I haven't done a great job communicating them on when I'm going to be repaying the bets because I've hit a cold streak recently.
But we will be doing the baseball challenge tomorrow. Well, that was my hot seat because we initially were saying the second place team had to catch.
And then I was like, well, it'd be funnier for content if PFT is pitching and I'm catching that. Don't make a joke about our relationship.
I wasn't going to. So I'm catching and I'm going to get injured.
I'm going to get injured. We're both going to get injured.

So right now, my right shoulder is hanging on by a thread.

I've got a labrum tear, a rotator cough.

No, no.

It's been injured since like 2011, 2012.

I've got a broken humerus at the top.

I've got a fucked up shoulder.

So not looking forward to this bet.

Probably going to re-injure it. Can you still throw a curve? I can throw a nasty knuckle curve.
I got to paint my fingernails for me. Yeah, please do.
Tomorrow. So we're doing that.
It's also going to be like freezing. Yeah.
It's going to be sunny, though. It'll help.
Oh, good. Great.
30s and sunny. And Jake, Hank, and Max are going to be the outfit.
Yeah, we're ready. I'm ready for this.
I'm going to get hurt.

Yeah, we're both going to be hurt.

This might be the end of part of my take, actually.

If there's no episode on Friday, sorry.

But we got hurt.

We got dead.

Yeah, we got hurt.

We died.

I'm worried.

I just don't know if I can squat down catcher stance for multiple innings if PFT can't get anyone out.

I'm going to get everybody out. You can sit down like we need some easy stuff we're gonna help you guys out

you think so yeah oh okay you think you're gonna be good out there you're playing left all right fine okay i would say it's it's There's probably the best odds are

Ending because of injury

Yeah It's – there's probably the best odds are ending because of injury. Yeah.
Yeah, I'd say ending for injury minus 180. Yeah.
And, I mean, how many times do you think they'll bat around the order? I guess that would be the other – Yeah, what's the over-under of runs? Because we will have the team we're playing with infield. So if you can just – and it's cold, not great hitting conditions, but you're going to be pitching – Meatballs.
The only thing that you might have in your favor is that you're pitching so slow that it's going to throw them off, and they just hit hard ground balls, and they make good plays. How fast do you think I can throw? 60.
How many errors on the outfield? Yeah, I was going to say 63. 60.
How many errors? A lot. We're not.
Yeah, I don't know why Jake is confident. Yeah, we are going to.
I mean, I'm going to misjudge some balls, but I can also misjudge all of them. Yeah, but that's.
I'm just going to play at the wall. If you misjudge some balls, we're like, we have to get six outs.
We'll get them. them okay i think there's going to be a lot of uh yeah not necessarily errors in the outfield because an error would imply that you had to get your your glove on the ball yeah you're just gonna not know how to track a ball yeah and yeah anything anything in the middle like right center left someone out yeah you should i should let them steal i'll throw someone out i gotoff move.
I'm going to work on a hidden ball trick. Yeah.
Before we play. Oh, fuck yes.
We should get him. Actually, can we just get multiple balls? I mean, I'm running for you because I'm going to be cold.
I didn't even think about a play at the plate. Well, the new rule is they can't touch you or else they're out.
I might just reverse it and just not even try to catch the ball. Just run at the guy running at me.
I like that. No offense, Big Cat.
Maybe he gets out of the base path. If you get Buster Posey on a play, I'm just going to walk over and put you down like a horse.
That would suck. And Jerry's going to be the ump, which will help us.
Yes. Yeah.
I bought so much ump shit. He's going to look very official.
So, yeah, that's going down tomorrow. I'm not super excited about it, if I'm being totally honest.
No. You know what? Fuck it.
Let's just go out there and be legends. It's for the people.
It's for the people. And then I'm going to be getting the perm and getting the tattoo on the live stream on Hank and Max's live stream.
So all these bets will be paid off, but they will be paid off in the name of content. Yeah, basically we have to do the 24-hour streams also.
Punishment Me and Max have had to do that we pushed off until we're able to use the full office facilities, and I've been just trying to shoehorn everything into that because I don't know what the fuck we're going to do for 24 hours. So that will come soon.
Before the new year, yeah. I think soon.
Yeah. How soon? Soon.
Two weeks. Before Black Friday? Well, and I also think we figured out there's a really good Thursday Night Football game that we want you guys to miss.
Yeah. No, it's like we're going to do it, and it will end right as the Thursday Night Football.
Oh, Bengals-Ravens. Yes, we wanted you guys.
Yeah, Bengals-Ravens. We wanted you to be delirious while we recorded the show right after that.
Bengals Ravens, you guys come out and the game's over. And then we do the show.
And then I have to fucking edit. Yeah.
That's such bullshit. You can't do that.
You can't do that. Sorry you have to do your job.
But this is my... Like, the whole thing is my job.
Okay, so Max, maybe you don't have to edit, but Hank definitely has to be involved in content on the show. I want delirious, very tired Hank.
I want yawns. I want everything.
Where are we going to be? The yawns are going to be so bad. Where are you going to what? Where are we going to be locked in? We're going to build a box.
We're going to build a box. A box? A boo box.
Yeah. How big is this box? Big.
We have a huge basketball court. Although we do have some empty rooms we could do.
Yeah. We should maybe do that.
We should put you in an empty room. There's some small empty rooms.
Are you going to give us some, like, toys? Oh, if we just, yeah. You got to get, like, a puzzle.
If we just put something over the glass doors in one of the conference rooms, we could do that. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I think one of the podcasts. No, that's not too small.
That's not too small. That's not too small.
There's the big conference room. No, that's too big.
Okay. That's way too big.
That's also too small. That's way too big.
It should be like this studio. No, this studio is too big.
Me and Max are going to do like popcorn reading. Oh, okay.
But I think, well, we can talk about it another time. Which popcorn reading? School.
I don't know what that is. How do you even popcorn reading do work? I know what popcorn reading is.
When you're reading and then all of a sudden you call a person's name, popcorn PFT. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah. And then you touch the person.
There's only the two of read? I know what popcorn read is. When you're reading, and then all of a sudden, you call a person's name.
Popcorn PFT. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah. There's only the two of you.
That was going to be my thing. But then you catch the person who's not paying attention.
It's basically you're just trying to wrap them out to the teacher. But there's only two of you.
Yeah, Hank's just going to be saying popcorn max the entire time. Yeah.
I can read better than him. All right.
What's your cool throne? So maybe we can take this out if we're not ready to say it on the show yet But I think that this person is going to be On the live stream on Thursday Yes, Clinton Portis The other person So everybody be cool I'm trusting the listeners to be cool No, but Everyone's got to wear nice clothes Thursday night when you're watching the stream. We have to say it because...
Wear... Brush your hair.
You're going to be shocked. Take a shower.
We have a very special guest that's going to watch football with us. Going to sit down for an interview on part of my take on Thursday in studio.
As well as Clint Portis. As well as Clint Portis, who I'm also very excited about.
It is Tiffany Gomez. That motherfucker's not real lady from the plane.
I remember from her feet picture in her kitchen. But she's so much more than that.
And I think we need to start out by remembering that, everybody. She's a nice lady.
She's flying up to Chicago. Not un-American.
That was specified. And she's going to be doing an interview and live streaming the game.
So everybody be cool. Just be cool.
Be cool. Be cool.
Be cool, guys. We're all cool guys, right? Be cool.
We're cool. Be cool, Hank.
Hank, are you going to be cool? Yeah. All right.
We're going to be cool. We're going to be cool.
All right. My cool throne.
So my hot seat is having to catch tomorrow for PFT, although we're going to fucking be we're going to crush that. I need some Redman.
Can we get some Redman? Yes. I need a bunch of Redman.
I got Spider-Tag. My Cool Throne is charity.
So I tweeted about this the other day, but Weishfest that is going to be in Chicago, Salt Shed on Saturday. These are people I've been known for a very long time.
Great charity. They raise money for families battling cancer.
So if you're in Chicago and you want to do something on Saturday, it's going to be sick. Natasha Bedingfield is playing.
Oh, yeah. Very cool.
Randy Hauser, Plain

White Tees. So

concert, college football will be on all

day. It's going to be a great party.

150 bucks is open bar basically

all day. So it's going to be a great

time. I think there'll be some people from Barstool

there. So please go check it out.

It is W-E-I-S-H

fest.com.

Help out. Yeah.
Help out.

They're great people that I've known for a very long time.

So help out. Great lineup.
Yes.

Let's go. W-E-I-S-H fest.com.
Help out. Yeah.
Help out. They're great people that I've known for a very long time.
So help out. Great lineup.
Yes. Great lineup.
And you get to watch college football with an open bar at the Salt Shed, which is an awesome venue. Perfect.
Hot seat, cool throne, Jake. My hot seat is Dabo Swinney.
Yes. He had a radio show where he had some words for Tyler from Spartansburg.
He's four and four this season. He told him he's part of the problem.
If you want to apply for my job, go for it, and good luck to you. It was a five-minute rant.
You can listen to it. It's all over.
He also dropped a great – he went Tyler, which is just a very – that's a great dad thing to do. He also said, your question i started as the lowest paid coach in this business i worked my ass off i'm not gonna let this smart ass kid get on the phone and tell me how to do my job i work for the board of trust he basically did the dave chappelle when keeping it real goes wrong i don't like people playing on my phone yeah he uh but it is kind of crazy like Clemson was not a national title team.
Dabo came. They won more than 10 games, however many years in a row, seven years in a row.
Won two national titles. Bad year.
I think he deserves at least one bad year. So Dabo is actually right with his answer, which was he raised the expectation so high that now it's impossible to fulfill your expectation unless you win a national championship.
So Dabo's right in that, but it's also, it's very funny to hear Dabo Swinney say the word ass. Yes.
Yes. That's my take on it.
All right. Your cool throne.
My cool throne. Well, it's kind of putting you guys in the hot seat, but Cooper flag.
He committed to Duke. Fuck him.
Yeah. He's dead to me.
To the brotherhood. Duke over Utah, and we'll see him next year in Cameron Indoor.
You know what? Dead to me. I think this is bigger than Duke.
I think it's bigger than Duke. I think I might still be a Cooper Flag guy.
I'm not for the next year. I will be when he goes pro.
I think I have to root for old Cooper. Yeah, but Shire, he's a hometown guy here.
I don't like Cooper Flagg. I do not like Cooper Flagg.
All right. I'm done with Cooper Flagg.
He's going to be a problem. He's going to be a problem.
Cooper Flagg is going to be a problem. He is very good.
I'm not going to hate. I'll say it.
I will not hate Cooper Flagg. I'm just going to pretend he doesn't exist.
You can do that for the next year. I'm going to shun him.
I'm shunned him. I'm shunning him.
Can you root for the Brotherhood, but not root for Duke at the same time? No. No.
All right, then I'm out. Also very funny.
It was like Cooper flagged to the Brotherhood, and he's holding a pitchfork. The Trident.
Yeah. The Brotherhood was an interesting choice there.
Yeah. Okay.
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Here he is, Ryan Whitney. okay we now welcome on uh one of our favorite guests i think he might lead the league and part of my take appearances so we had to have him on in the new studio uh and we have nhl hockey is back in what a week so yeah i know we got we got two weeks till opening night two weeks opening night want to do our hockey preview.
Talk about the upcoming NHL season. I'll start with this.
I'm big on the Golden Knights. I think they're going to be good this year.
Yeah, Golden Knights. I don't really see any Stanley Cup hangover coming there for some reason.
I talk to the guys. They're ready to go.
So I think that they're going to come out buzzing and honestly just start the season off just the way they finished last year.

I also kind of like the Sharks this year.

I feel like they did a good job in the offseason.

I think the Sharks are really going to struggle to score goals.

It could be one of the worst teams we've ever seen in modern day NHL.

We'll see how it plays out, though.

You don't know puck.

You don't know puck. All right.

So obviously this season started, which is how we do our previews um so this is early actually this is early this is early but we also were like hey we were opening new studio wit is i i do think that you are the number one guest on this show um so speaking of the new season from a player's perspective when does the new season feel like you're like really in it when do when does like the panic of like we're really good or really bad actually start because you know like baseball it's usually somewhere around july nfl it's right around now where teams trade deadline figuring out what they are what is it for hockey uh if i was a super informed guest and by the way what an honor i think we said it last time like number one sports podcast to be the most the guest that's on the most like that's kind of that'll go down on my resume when it's all said and done so thank you boys it is an honor yeah you're right and you're welcome big time so how what percentage of pink whitney should we get then because you've done so much promotion on our show talk to your boy dave because now he now he fucking owns everything. So ask him.
Okay. I'll buy it from you for a dollar.
Do you just get a check every month? Every quarter. Oh, that's sick.
That is kind of nice. That's fucking sick.
I drive past a pink Whitney billboard. There's so many.
Both of you guys are making way more than me. So if we want to do this talk, we could talk.
That's probably true. Can you guys give me some money? He's right.
we actually yeah let's drop it we gave away our game checks for the next year uh all right wait so back to the question when does the nhl season start so real i wish i had the exact numbers and if i was a an informed guess i would but american thanksgiving is the time when you you know and by that i mean i i pretty sure that if you're not in the playoffs come American Thanksgiving, you're like, you got a 10% chance of getting in. Like, the numbers are crazy how it ends up working out.
So while there's some panic for a team like myself, the Edmonton Oilers, I'm an Edmonton Oilers super fan, once an Oiler, always an Oiler. There's some worry, but it's not too late as of right now.
I think every team's played between 7 and 10 games, so obviously there's some sketchy starts out there for some what were thought to be really good teams, but once we get to American Thanksgiving, that's when you look at the standings, and you can actually figure out, like, there might be one or two teams that aren't in right now that get in, but this will probably be the top eight in each conference.

Wait, the Oilers stink.

So we are now a new team.

We won the Outdoor.

We won the Heritage Classic.

We smacked around the Calgary Flames, who suck.

Wait, when was the Heritage Classic?

Heritage Classic was Saturday night, where the Edmonton – oh, my God.

They did –

What is their name?

What is the CFL team in Edmonton, guys? Come on. Oh, the Eskimos? I think it is the Eskimos.
Yes, I think it is. They played outdoor at their stadium.
20th anniversary of the first outdoor game before the Buffalo-Pittsburgh one I played in was Edmonton versus Montreal in 2003. They did the 20-year anniversary, did the Battle of Alberta.
It was actually sick. Nickelback played.
Nickelback played, guys guys conor mcdavid said they were the greatest band of all time okay you got to respect when the great one says that or you know you can't call it one i didn't mean that no you said they're not even in the playoffs right now you just said the great one in fact well he got hurt big cat we missed we he was out for two games and and we lost both and then he came came back, and he was dominating the other night. So basically, that win changed around the whole season.
But as of right now, the Edmonton start's been a disaster. I can say that.
Yeah, you said the Oilers suck. You tweeted that out.
I know, but then I retracted it, and I said I had a moment of weakness, and I said I took it all back and that they're actually awesome, but the Flames really suck. So I addressed that on today's episode of Spitting Chick Chickens or yesterday because this is dropping tomorrow.
Yesterday's episode of Spitting Chickens, I addressed that tweet, and I retracted it. Okay.
All right. So I can't believe they're doing – do you think they do too many outdoor games? No, I actually don't.
I think that people that watch on TV have a right to probably be like, why are there so many of these? But they're totally made for everyone going.

And every person that goes to the one each year goes away pretty much saying it was a blast.

It's an awesome experience.

There's tailgating, just being outside.

So it's not, I mean, for the viewers, it's usually January 1st or January 2nd.

They finally switched it from when the college playoff is, or that's December 31st, right?

Either way, it's a good thing. It's on TV, and then being there is the best part.
So's December 31st right either way it's a good

thing it's it's on tv and then being there is the best part so I like how they do that's a good

answer there was also a guy that was in the pregame skate he was wearing like cowboy boot skates that

rocked I saw that guy I don't know who he was um but he had legit like bower bottoms on cowboy yeah

so I don't know how the balance that would be like my ankles when I was playing he was doing the uh the canadian tuxedo i think he had jeans a jean jacket and cowboy boots on he looked awesome that's biz that's pretty much how biz dresses all right so i like this answer thanksgiving american thanksgiving is when teams start to feel the pressure uh how is it in a locker room though at the beginning of the season if you do start like the edmont is there like, hey, guys, what's going on? Maybe not so many jokes. Like, let's rip off some wins here.
We got to start making some hay. I think the panic can set in for the players a little bit in a sense of like if we had good or high expectations and we're struggling the way Edmonton was, that's why they were like – they were talking about this outdoor heritage classic as if it were a playoff game.
Like I think I heard must win thrown around a couple of times and considering it was the eighth game of the year, that's not ideal. But players realize like we got to start getting going.
Whereas if you're on the Sharks or, you know, the Blackhawks, there's no expectations. Obviously you want to play well, but you realize that the whole year was probably going to be a bit of a grind.
So for the good teams who struggle slow, yeah, right away, you're like, we have to switch this. We have to change this.
And then if you're in Canada or a big market, the questions are starting to come after every practice, every game. You want to end those.
You want to get away from that. So it's probably quicker for the players, but like fan bases don't really panic until mid-November, late November.
Yeah. Yeah felt like a very slow start for Edmonton.
And on the other hand, you got Boston. Boston's been the best team in the NHL.
How did this team lose in the playoffs, Whitney? They just ran into a super hot goalie. They didn't get great goaltending.
They didn't switch up their goalie, which they had all regular season.

They had gone the Swayman-Almark combo.

They went with Almark every game until the end, and then Swayman went in,

and it was one of those just wasn't meant to be.

And Bergeron came back in the middle of the series.

They were up 3-1.

He comes back.

They lose the next three.

It was basically a full-on collapse and a choke.

I said it at the time, and Florida had this magical thing going on where who knows what they would have done with Vegas. They were so banged up.
Everyone was injured. Kachuk could barely even move.
But Florida was a good team. And they basically just caught lightning in a bottle, if that's the saying.
I don't even know if that is. But it was a shocker to me.
It still will be. But what they've done to start the season is incredible because they lose Bergeron,

they lose Krejci, and

everyone's like, this team's going to struggle to make the

playoffs. I had them getting in, but I thought they may

be the 8th, 7th seed, and it

looks like the culture there. Marshawn's

the new captain. They still have

McEvoy, even though he's getting suspended today.

For what? Yeah, the sussy. He put

a little shoulder into him. He just

crushed Oliver Ekman-Larsen in the face with his shoulder. So he'll he'll probably get three games i'd say what's that like when you have the meeting when you go to the player safety meeting you get to plead your case to not get sussied what do you say so i only um i had one phone call hearing i went to lift up ovechkin's stick and i speared him in the balls and um and and actually the the guy who was on the phone was I said, hey, you got always thought that was kind of crazy and i got fined 2500 bucks so i never was suspended in my nhl career oh wow that means you didn't play tough enough exactly yeah you were gonna say yeah i mean well that is like i want my guys to get suspended every now and then okay well i mean in the end like you lose as a fan you lose one of your players for games and then the player loses money.
So suspensions aren't ideal. But I will say it means you're teetering on the edge of being a little crazy.
Right. I think Biz got a 10 gamer actually for jumping off the bench during a fight.
So he's probably still bitching about that money loss. Yeah, he could not lose that money.
It's very NBA of you to care more about your money than actually helping your team win there, Ryan. Well, actually, the first thing I said was that the fan base would understand that a player's now gone.
So that was the first thing that went into my mind. And then I thought the player also loses money.
But the first thing I said was not being in the lineup. That's not NBA.
That's not NBA. You don't do load management.
You know that kids come out every night to see Ryan Whitney play when you're on a road trip. I heard Jimmy Butler got a load management game in the third game of the fucking season.
No. Okay.
So speaking of NBA, is there a James Harden of the NHL in that maybe a guy, a star who might ask for a trade? So Pierre-Luc Dubois was on Columbus, Tortorella and him butted heads. He didn't want to be there.
He requested a trade. He got traded to Winnipeg where I believe his family lived.
And, you know, Canada, big market, good player. And then all of a sudden, a year went by and he wanted to get traded from there and he got traded to LA.
So he's on his third team after two trade requests. So one more and he'd match Big Game James.
Yeah. Big Game James.
I like like that that's James Shields who

did not deserve that

nickname you guys got that

yeah you guys have become

like the big J's of the

hockey world it's been it's

been fun to watch the last

couple years you had you

broke the story about

Babcock looking through

people's cell phones you

said that you come down

with the side of the

players always I think

biz said like if you fuck

with the players what do

you say like no spit no

lube sandpaper finish yeah

I think he said we'll bend you over no spit no lube, sandpaper finish? Yeah, I think he said, well, Ben Jover, no spit, no lube, sandpaper finish. Probably a little aggressive.
I mean, he does work for TNT, but he can say and do whatever he wants. We figured that out at this point.
Yes. Do you guys feel like more journalistic now? Is this a serious podcast for Chicklets? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We never want to be journalists. And looking back, I mean, Biz had texted me, dude, I guess Babs is looking through guys' phones again or something.
I was like, no way. And then I kind of reminded him of our phone call when we recorded.
It was our first episode off of our summer break. Long-deserved break that we really, really deserved and needed.
Hank just put in a trade request to spit in chiclets. Thank you.
So then he just threw it out there, and he was just like, you won't believe this Babcock. He's checking guys phones.
And then honestly, like he said after he's like, that'll probably catch a little bit of steam in the media. But never in a million years did I think that would end up happening.
So in terms of like that type of podcast, breaking news, guys getting fired, like I'm not looking to be a journalist. You guys know that you guys don't want to be be journalists i don't want to be the guy breaking the news i want to be the guy that's maybe talking about the news that's being broken yes so so when that all went down were you were you kind of stunned with the response because i was getting mad for you guys we we kept on defending you guys because it's like all these uh journalists were like oh why would you why would you believe these pieces of shit bars to all this stuff it's like no they're talking about a thing that happened to the players they're reporting what actually happened were you at any point like this is insane that people just even after all this time think that we're complete jokes and like why wouldn't you believe us yeah a little bit I will say there was a little panic, at least for myself, when they released a quick statement where Boone Jenner and Johnny Goudreau said that he did go through his phone and it was completely fine and nothing was weird.
And I was like, oh, shit. Like, right.
We could end up looking like fools. And I knew that we hadn't made anything up, which that was my big argument at the time.
I said, why would we as a podcast risk pretty much everything to make up this random story? And then even for Biz, who did probably catch a little heat, I think TNT texted him right away, probably with the league texting them or getting in touch with them, like what is going on? So Biz has, you think he's going to risk, like, his job at TNT and Chicklets and all of kind of what we stand for and what we say being truthful to make up this random lie? And I think part of it was just all the barstool haters and just us being attached to them. And you know hockey media.
They're out of their mind, a lot of them. So I think for that, it was a little bit surprising in terms of like people saying we're flat out lying.

Like, why would we do that?

But when that statement came out from the older vets and the captain on the team, I said, oh, shit.

Like if they just sweep this under the rug, we're going to have to stand by our word.

But it's always going to be a little foolish looking for us as a group.

And then in the end, those older guys hadn't even heard what he'd done to some younger players.

And the truth ended up coming out kind of luckily for the team in terms of probably getting a coach uh out of there that wouldn't have been much fun to play for and in terms for us as a podcast you know holding some credibility still it's crazy to me i don't know if you get mad about it because obviously we're not uh professional athletes or ex-professional athletes so when people say shit about us we're like yeah we are dumb we're dumb idiots like what are you gonna do we're not professional athletes or ex-professional athletes. So when people say shit about us, we're like, yeah, we are dumb.
We're dumb idiots. Like, what are you going to do? We're not going to fight it.
But when journalists say, like, what do these guys know? Are you sitting there like, dude, I know that I'm not a journalist, but I was in a fucking NHL locker room for a decade. Like, I know something.
This is crazy. I more look at it like I have a lot of friends that still play in the league.
I've been out of the league for quite a while, coming up 10 years. But I still know guys who are still there and playing.
And obviously that will change at some point. But Biz even more so.
I mean, he's got so many friends around the league. He's got so many different sources within teams.
And so for people to say that we have no clue what we're talking about, I know, uh, I'm not going to say they're like jealous, but they're more just kind of being a little ridiculous in my mind. But I, I also will say like, I look at it the same way.
Like I am pretty dumb. I don't know.
I just give my opinion on sports. And if there's a certain play I'm talking about, I'd like to think I know what I'm saying in terms of like a breakdown but when we're talking about different stories that break like yeah we're we're dummies we're messing around we're just being goofballs so that part of it doesn't bother me it's more when you kind of question our credibility and if if if you're thinking that we would make things up about certain players like not only would that hurt us but it would just kind of ruin our relationships within the league right yeah i thought ra's credibility was on the line so i was happy to see that come through i was worried for him i was like what what hot water did did uh wit and biz get ra into this time how's he going to get out of this one ra is just immediately like getting away from biz and i was like no no these guys are full of shit wait Wait, so you said Babcock, obviously tough guy, not fun guy to play for.
I think Tortorella is everyone knows probably not fun to play for. Who's another coach? But I don't want to.
I never want to have those to be compared. I do like saying that.
We said it at the time because Tortorella can be hard on guys and demand a lot. But people also say that away from the rink, he's a good guy.
He's a good person. He can just be a motherfucker to play for, where Babcock never had any of that.
Right, right. So who else is a tough guy to play for around the league? Not a bad coach, but he just coaches the guys very tough.
The game has changed so much where when I was playing, I would say it was like 80% of guys who could be ball busters and stay on you and be pricks. And it's just, I think with the way the game's changed and players being so young in the league, there aren't many guys.
I think Greg Cronin, who's a first year coach on Anaheim, he's been around the NHL and all hockey leagues for forever, but he can be pretty intense from what I've heard. But like look at Tampa Bay, John Cooper's not really like that.
He's just more probably not down to earth, but maybe a little more personable with all the guys he coaches. Like Martin St.
Louis in Montreal now, Jim Montgomery's kind of a player's coach in quotation. So the game's changed in terms of the hard-ass old-school coaching style is really going by the wayside and it's happened pretty quickly actually i have a dumb question uh if you rank the four major sports where does hockey rank in terms of how important the coach is so football's one yeah football i think is definitely basketball is the last one okay and i would say baseball i would say baseball is in front of hockey so third okay you think baseball baseball aren't baseball coaches calling all the pitches and stuff and a lot of it well catchers a lot of catchers do that too and some of it is deciding pitchers though yeah deciding pitchers when to pull guys but there's also like there there's been the analytics revolution in baseball where like the yankees i think that's a big complaint yankees fans have, is Aaron Boone doesn't even manage.
It's like a spreadsheet. It's just a plan that they have going in.
You could have a software program. Where a computer could do it? Yeah, a computer could do it.
AI could manage. So let's put hockey number two behind football.
What's the hardest thing a hockey coach has to do? Is it tactical? No, I think there's so few systems you can actually play like there's there's only so many defensive zone coverages there's only so many different power plays you can run so coach is actually more so like picking the lines right like who's gonna play with who yep finding out like if you ask players like especially forwards it'll drive them nuts when the coaches are putting the lines in a blender, where every game you're playing with two different guys, and guys like getting consistency and having a chance to play with the same two players, or for defensemen, your other partner. But I think coaches are picking the line up.
They're figuring out mid-game who's going and who's not, and then shortening the bench, maybe hopping a guy up from the fourth line to the second line because he's really going that night so in game coaches do a do a lot more than i think um and there's a lot of preparation that goes in a lot of video watching and scouting other teams but in game coaches are getting a feel of the bench and seeing who has it that night and who doesn't so yeah they're number two i think i also do love in a in in the stanley cup playoff when uh the coach like will they have, one line that they can put out there that could kill everyone, but they don't want to do it until later on in the series. I love when coaches do that, when they're like, all right, here is – like, fuck our third and fourth line.
We're going to shorten this up and just, like, hammer you with our first line. But then you look at Vegas, and that's why they were just so dominant and continue to be this year.
They have 12 forwards and 60 and there's no weaknesses. You don't have to hide a D pairing.
You don't have to really limit the fourth line. They pretty much just roll their lines, roll the pairings, and they're so deep that they just crush teams.
So that job may be a little easier in terms of like Bruce Cassidy because he knows I got depth at every position. Like I really don't have to hide anyone and I can just chug this train along and just wear teams down.
Was there ever a defenseman that you would play with who was a really good player, but for whatever reason, you and him just you couldn't play well together on the ice? I don't have an example of that personally off the top of my head, but it happens all the time. I mean, I don't know how much time.
Now, granted, they're both centers. Like, Crosby and Malkin didn't spend much time together.
Obviously, they play the same position, so that makes a little bit of sense. But there's been times where two good players, a center and a winger, for some reason, they don't click, and there's two D partners that don't click.
And then you see maybe a D pair that you'd never thought would work and they end up playing together an entire season. So yeah, there is chemistry within players that for some reason, sometimes never forms.
And it's always kind of confusing because I think coaching staffs look before a season like, all right, these two be great together. And then it never works out.
It's kind of one of those things that's just so random. You can't put a finger on it unless it's a group a forward line where you know you got two guys who love to go in get the puck they'll go in the corners hard then there's one guy who doesn't do it so they don't all mesh well together but for personally I don't I don't remember having that is your deep hearing partner is your partner on defense is it like um like you know like a cop pairing where it's like you have his back no matter what and you almost are closer to him than anyone else on the team? Yes.
Yes. That's kind of cool.
And every shift you're coming off, you're just talking next to each other on the bench. What just happened in that corner? I should have been there.
Oh, I yelled this. I got to say this.
So there's just so much that goes into it during practices and in between shifts that if you can get a partner for D that you're with for a long time, you really start knowing where each other are without even really thinking, which is the, the, the, the true, you know, that's ideal in the game, right? If all of a sudden I know he's going to be there, then it's just makes the game that much easier. So yeah, there's, there's a lot that goes into that.
Will a coach ever be lazy and be like, you guys both speak Russian. You guys should be on the ice at the same time yes that's what i would do yeah but that would more be like them being like hey we both speak russian put us together but then the other the third player on that line's like uh right they're they're looking at me with anger and talking in russian so i don't think they like me very much right now better learn to speak russian buddy i actually have a serious question about the Russia and the Russian gas that you guys would always talk about on spin chiclets since the war in Ukraine has there been a shortage of Russian gas coming over to the United States I don't think it ever was coming over to the United States the Russian gas experience it it's only in the KHL you got to play in the KHL to experience it and get the chance and actually not to plug our own show but we dropped the show today or yesterday and kevin dolman is a guest he played in the nhl for a little bit then he went over to the khl he's actually the all-time goal scoring leader in that league he's from canada he had an incredible career over there he probably made 30 million and he goes in depth more than we've ever discussed with anyone what actually Russian gas is.
It was about 10 minutes of him describing what he did, how he did it, how he felt. And it's a great little story and an in-depth look at Russian gas.
So anyone who's really curious, go to the Kevin Dahlman interview on this week's Spit and Chick-fil-A. I love that.
I'm going to listen to it. That's great.
After I listen to part of my take. PFT.
I was over over there and my gas was like, I got a shot and it was definitely like speed or something. Cause I was incredible that night.
And when I did it, but this guy, he actually went through like using the gas mask and I was blown away. And then he gave it to another guy who was like, Holy shit.
That what a buzz. Like it's, it's a, it's a pretty incredible, incredible like breakdown of what they actually did over there.
Yeah. Has there been a difference in just international hockey in general, like, the flow of where players are going to play ever since the KHL is now not a safe place for people to play? There's guys still in the KHL.
That's still going on. I think that maybe guys look to Sweden and Switzerland a little bit more.
But what sucks for international hockey is, like, the World Juniors, which is the best under 20 players in the world. A lot of guys go on to be NHL stars every Christmas time.
Russia's not in that. They're not in the under 18.
If this continues and they have a best on best tournament, they wouldn't be in that. So the IIHF has banned them from everything, which sucks because, you know, they're always one of the best teams.
And you want to see these players it just it is what it is I don't see that ending anytime soon yeah um real quick Connor Bedard nine games in passed the test although on yet last night so Monday night he scored with 30 30 seconds into the game the Blackhawks did lose eight to one that wasn't ideal but has he passed the Ryan Whitney eye test? After the first period of opening night, the Blackhawks did lose 8-1. That wasn't ideal.
But has he passed the Ryan Whitney

eye test? After the first

period of opening night, he

passed the test. And I said, holy shit.

I just wanted to see him in one game.

And I actually knew that I'd probably have a...

I mean, that's a little ridiculous to say.

Once I saw him for a period, you can kind of tell.

And right away, you're like,

this is a superstar. This is a future

game-breaker. And he's small, but his is is out of this world and I also thought or I also didn't realize how good he is at creating plays like space for himself he had a nice assist in the first game and he does everything that you need to see a young like first overall pick dude to prove to you that you're looking at a future 50 goal a year guy his shot is out of this world and and in terms of that loss monday night they had rookie party in scottsdale before that so that game was a right off okay so that doesn't count that doesn't count is he better than conor mcdavid no same number stanley cups conor mcdavid's team is also really bad no no the owners are not really bad they're very good they're're very good.
They're very good. They had a tough little start, but they're very good.
They're 2-5. They suck, according to hockey analyst Ryan Whitney.
They're 2-5. Nope, nope.
Took it back. Don't put words in my mouth.
Don't put words in my mouth. They're 2-5.
And by the way, the Oilers have lost the last two seasons in the Western Conference Final two years ago and the second round this year to the two Stanley Cup champions. So basically, they're runners up the past two years.
Yeah, nice. Nice.
And last year, their series with Vegas, which was 2-2, going back to Vegas Game 5, they lost, and that was the Stanley Cup Final. So I just want to get ahead of that.
So they lost in the Stanley Cup Final. They're runners up the last two years.
Okay. That's a good spin zone.
If he retired today, who would have had a better career? McDavid or Phil Kessel? I guess Phil Kessel, but McDavid was more dominant. But if you're looking at a career, I mean, he broke the Ironman streak and has two Stanley Cups and, I don't know, 400 or 500 goals.
So Kessel. Is Kessel still playing? Does he have three? No.
Last year, he was on the Vegas Golden Knights, but he didn't play one playoff game. They went with a different roster.
And then this year, I think he was open to playing, but he didn't want to go somewhere on a tryout. So who knows? Maybe he does get signed in the next month or two, or maybe he's just going to shut it down.
But he was. I mean, to have the record he has and to do what he did, he's an all-time player, Hall of Famer.
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Go to Puparoni.com to find a team at some point in like January, right? Yep. I wish I was buddies with him and I could kind of get an inside scoop.
I got nothing. I'm hoping for Buffalo.
I'm on the Buffalo Sabres bandwagon. I'd love to see them get in the playoffs this year.
It's been a tough. They actually have the longest playoff drought streak in pro sports right now, which is amazing to me.
They haven't been in the playoffs in 13 years, which I was surprised. There's no team in any other league that's gone 13 years without the playoffs.
But it is the Buffalo Sabres.

Patrick Kane's from Buffalo.

I've actually been beating this drum since before he was traded to the Rangers.

Rangers are a legit Stanley Cup threat this season.

Maybe he goes back there, but I don't know with how it went

in the first-round exit to the Devils.

Maybe Dallas.

That's kind of a rumor that's been circulating around.

That's another Stanley Cup possibility for that team.

But I really can't give you any inside info.

I'm not going to. They're tied with the Jets, the New York Jets.
So this will be their 13th year if they don't do it. Oh, same as the Jets? Yeah, same as the Jets.
Last time the Jets. Well, I think the Jets might get in this year.
Yeah, I think the Jets are good. Not to fact check you, but Phil Kessel is a three-time Stanley Cup champion.
Who? Three times. So you're 2016, 2017.
You're 100% right. You're 100% right.
He was on the Golden Knights, and I didn't give him credit because he didn't play in the playoffs, but that's my bad. Well, you don't say he didn't play in the playoffs.
McDavid has a long way. He didn't play.
It's a big mountain to climb. So I forgot.
Still, his name's on the cup. Yeah.
True. I just said I forgot.
Okay. Don't get mad, but you forgot.
And they literally, when did they, they won it a long time ago, though, right? This is like marriage. When you say you're sorry and then they keep giving it to you, I said I'm sorry.
Actually, last year. Yeah, no, there's no way of getting out of that.
You just got to say I'm sorry over and over, and then you just got to be. Mea culpa.
Well, now, no, now I'm not sorry. I am still.
Let's talk about a different sport real quick. Your Georgia Bulldogs.
Oh, baby. This Brock Bowers thing is scary as hell, though.
Yeah, because I don't know. Good, though.
Carson Beck is good. He might be.
I know. And I didn't really know what to expect.
He kind of like has a weird face, like a little like lazy looking, but he could sling it, but they're, they're not winning without Bowers. And I think that any true Bulldogs fan to tell you, it's going to be real difficult without him.
By the way, football guys, can he go first overall? Like if he's going to be Bronk or Kelsey, no, he won't. Cause there'll be a quarterback, but he'll go top five.
Oh, that guy. That guy's insane.
I can't believe how good he is. I think he could be better than Kelsey and Gronk.
Yeah. No, you're right.
He will probably have a better career than the guys that get drafted above him. That's what I'm saying with the NFL.
If you know you have this 12- to 15-year superstar tight end and he can block, he can do everything, why wouldn't you take him? Especially considering these quarterbacks, half of them suck to get taken first overall. Yeah, Kyle Pitts was the highest drafted tight end in NFL history with the fourth overall a couple years ago.
Okay. So maybe he breaks that this Yeah.
What do you think about Caleb Williams painting his fingernails before a game, saying, like,

fuck you to his opponents?

Has there ever been a hockey player that does that?

I don't know.

I'd love to ask Sean Avery.

He might have painted the fingernails at the time. He's like a giant fuck you to someone.

I'm not exactly sure.

I can't think of anyone.

What's Sean Avery doing these days besides getting in fights with people on the street?

He's doing a hockey podcast with Kevin Conley, E from Entourage me I don't know his name it's actually entertaining on YouTube I watch it occasionally and he does jujitsu I believe he's up to a blue or a yellow belt and he competes and he's done pretty well so Avery's crushing it I kind of like when Sean Avery just does the videos I think he moved but when he would just he lives in la now yeah he'd do the videos in new york where like people would like put their bike in front of like a coffee shop and you just wait for the bike guy to come out and you just yell at him no it was actually the opposite he was a bike rider oh that's right people that's right he would really go after people maybe parked in the bike lane yeah i love those videos too where it's like a gopro on a guy's body and he's just like driving through new york screaming at people walking out yeah that was fine yeah and like every video i was just waiting for him to just dummy someone too i was like one of these is going to be incredible he had the one to la yeah he had the one in la where he looked like the terminator like like walking down this car and he had like i was like holy fuck and now he's now he's like, he's a legit like killing machine considering he's a jujitsu master. So you don't want to fuck with those people.
No, don't, don't, don't speed around Sean Avery's neighborhood. That's just a PSA to everyone out there.
But, but back to, back to Brock, I think he's going to come back, right? He's not done for the season. They're not shutting him down.
No, they've said that he should be able to come back but like you don't know after a surgery if like what what will his percentage be like will he maybe look at it and say like why am I coming back before the draft I don't know that there's just there's a lot of question marks is all I meant but the d is there they're gonna get in the national title game even if they lose the sec title game i believe and and it's on to three in a row guys three in a row already counting it would be pretty crazy yeah so i i think a lot of georgia fans are like they're they're excited and they've got high expectations but they also think wait this team isn't as good as last year's team or maybe the year before that team but nobody's that good right yeah it makes it a little easier i think oh oh speaking of michigan and their sign stealing stuff is anything like that ever happened in hockey was there ever like a time where like i think they're videotaping our practice or something would you even be able to get an advantage on that well that's that's kind of what what i agreed with what deon sanders was saying like dude you got our game plan. Stop it.
And I think that hockey probably maybe even more so than football.

You can know in hockey.

You do know exactly what every team is going to do.

And it's just up to executing it and somehow trying to stop what you know is coming at you.

I mean, last year, people had clips of 82 games of the Oilers power play.

That was the best power play in the history of the NHL.

And nobody could stop it.

So I think hockey wouldn't matter as much.

The Knights did.

I think the power play was still pretty money that season. Yeah, but they did win that series.

They beat them, but I was saying power play in film.

So the Oilers, just so we can recap real quick,

runners up in the Stanley Cup playoff last year,

and if the Stanley Cup was given out to just the power play, they would have won it. Yes.
Okay. McDavid's got like four cups if that's the case.
So that's. Yeah.
Let's just give him one. And now he's got the cup and we're good for everything.
If he never wins one, you're going to have to come on and apologize to us. You called him the great one.
The great one. The great one.
I misspoke. I misspoke.
I think I had Oilers great on my head that a number began with nine, but no, no, no, no. Great one is Wayne Gretzky.
But guys, speaking of no Stanley Cup, we had an all-time first ballot NHL Hall of Famer retired, Joe Thornton. He never got the cup.
He never got it. Biz and I said that, Biz said if he had a magic coin that R.A.
would probably try to eat. But if he had a magic coin and he could hand it to one player who never got the cup that deserved one, his would have been Joe Thornton.
Mine was Joe Thornton or Jerome McGinley. Two guys that you look back, both deserved it.
Both went to cup finals. It didn't work out for him.
But, yeah, I mean, looking back, I mean, I'm sure Mcid's biggest nightmare is if it all ends and he doesn't have a cup so that's why there's so much panic within oilers nation in the fact that leon dreitz seidel's next year is his last year of his deal mcdavid has two years after this and then his deal's up so if you see a failure this season who knows what's going to happen with le and committing to the future there. So there's some worry.
I would

give my magic coin to you. That's so

nice of you. Yeah.
How insufferable

would you be if you had won a cup?

Probably pretty

bad.

Imagine you getting in an argument with Viz.

I won the cup. You don't know what you

guys are talking about. I won the cup.

How many of you guys won a cup? Oh, nobody? Yeah, I did.

Yeah, I kind of wish you had a cup just to fucking stick it in everyone's face oh i wish i did too buddy i appreciate that i got a silver medal that's my cup that's a sad cup that's a really sad if we gave you if we gave you the cup coin would you give it to jumbo i couldn't i i i kind of i think i gave it to a ginla so that biz gave it to joe I gave it to a Ginla. So I gave mine to you.
To me they're even. But that means you can't give yours to McDavid if he doesn't win a cup.
I don't need to because he's still playing. Yeah, but you just said he's got two in your window.
It was for retired guys. You should save yours.
Yeah, no. Just in case.
I'm going to give it to Ovi so he can have two. All right.
Never mind. We don't have any left.
Oh, they actually really had the wit reverse mush going on. I said the Capitals stink.
They're old. They're slow.
They suck. And they've won three in a row since I said that.
So things are looking up in Capitals land, but I still don't think they're going to make the playoffs. But would you like to retract that? You just said that you retracted your Oilers take.
No, I'm not retracting that one because they beat the Sharks, which doesn't count. They beat somebody else shitty, and then they had one good win, I believe, against the Devils, maybe? But I still think the Capitals kind of suck.
So I'll add a kind of on there. How about that? I think that's fair.
They might kind of suck this year. And basically, it feels to me as a Caps fan like we're treating the next two years as not.
We're not trying to do a yet we're like we're putting off the rebuild and just focusing the next year and a half two years on getting Ovi to Gretzky's record is that fair yep I I agree with that uh Biz argued that against me he he really likes their team thinks they're gonna get in the playoffs talks about all the champions in that locker room which is a valid point but Backstrom had this really difficult, crazy hip surgery to come back from and kind of hasn't looked the same since he came back from that. And I just think they're just older and slower, not a great D.
But I do agree with you. My point was I think it's all about the OV goal chase, and then they kind of restart.
Yeah, that's my personal Stanley Cup for the next two years, just counting down until Ovi gets there. I mean, that'll be one of the most amazing moments in NHL history, a record that many people said will never be sniffed, never even be remotely close to getting broken.
And John Bucciagas from ESPN was the first guy, I think, six years ago, maybe seven years ago, he sent out a tweet with a breakdown on how Ovi could do it. And I remember reading it like there's just no chance.
And somehow it's going to end up happening. And it'll be one of the coolest moments in the history of the sport.
Whoa. Yeah, no, I agree.
It's going to be incredible. Yeah.
So, I mean, he's been the most consistent guy ever. They've had how many years? He got in the league in what, 2005? Yeah, 2005.
And they still haven't figured out how to stop him on the power play. How to step into that office and cut that shot down.
You know what's nuts, though? And I don't know if you guys caught this, but recently Austin Matthews scored his 300th. He scored his 300th in like six more games than it took Ovi.
So it's like, whoa. And I think at the same age, if not younger.
So if Matthews continues and is able... It's all about staying healthy, which has been the incredible thing with Ovechkin is being that big and playing that physical that he's never really missed a ton of time.
Where Matthews has battled injuries here or there, but he's a goal scorer like Ovi, so you never know. Conor Bernard is probably going to probably going to break it.
I'm not willing to say that yet. Okay.
Can you talk me into it? Nine games in? Pussy. Four goals.
If he had nine goals in nine games, like Frank Petrano in Anaheim, I would say it. You said the first period you could tell with Bedard, right? Yeah.
So like first period, retroactively I said this guy's going to break Ovi's record one day. You did? Yeah, I did right now.
You just did. Okay.
did okay oh yeah because the season hasn't started right yes it's about to start it's about to start i think he's as advertised yeah um all right so uh wit i got one last question has always been great roback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers. I wear Roback all the time.
It's the most comfortable clothes out there. Who is your Stanley Cup final pick, and who do you have raising the cup? So I picked the Edmonton Oilers.
Okay. They're 2-5.
Which actually, like, a lot of people picked. Well, the St.
Louis Blues were in dead last place, like, January 4th. Well, you told us Thanksgiving, American Thanksgiving.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I picked the Edmonton Oilers.
The way the season starts, it's obviously not ideal. I think that if I were to give another pick, it's the Colorado Avalanche.
They seem possessed. They had a tough little road trip here recently, but they're an elite team with unreal depth, kind of like Vegas.
Vegas could do it again. And then in the East, I actually think if Toronto or the Rangers won the Cup, I wouldn't be surprised.
Whoa. I know.
I know. I was going to say.
Toronto's very good. I want to give you 30 seconds to talk us into the Toronto Maple Leafs this year.
Austin Matthews, top five player in the league. Mitch Marner, an amazing playmaker, obviously an amazing talent as well.
They got William Nylander, who's up for a contract and outstanding right now, leading his team in scoring. John Tavares is a veteran, can play that playoff style.
They got a goaltender, Joseph Wall, who's kind of taken over the number one over Samsonov, and he looks amazing. His numbers in all his career NHL games, even though it's been short-lived, are pretty impressive.
The defense is the one question, but they got Giordano, who's a former Norvish Trophy winner. He's a leader.
He's older, but he's smart, steady. Morgan Riley's a top-end talent.
They got Klingberg, who's an offensive wizard to run the power play. They have Bertuzzi, who came over from Boston and Detroit the year prior, who's a playoff-style, in-your-face player.
Max Domi's a pain in the ass. I think that they could do it.
I would be surprised if they won the Stanley Cup, but I also think that if everything broke the correct way and they got really good goaltending, they could do it. Okay.
Hank, do you have any questions for Witt? Oh, fomo did you have that you weren't in the writer cup that was that that was literally built for you yeah i really wanted but the only thing i don't appreciate and it's it's i think it's you it's dave it's minahan it's like everyone oh whitney's not here whitney's not at uh big brother at the office uh i had the nhl draft and the award show where we went and banked interviews and made content that you guys decided to plan the Ryder Cup during. So nothing I could do there.
We got Hank here. Yeah, I do have Hank here, and he knows it.
And I told him, do it in the fall. And then Big Brother at the office.
Football season. Big Brother.
First, I thought I was going to be on vacation. And then I realized it's the draft and the awards.
And I can't go to both. I have to go to my real job where I work 90 hours a week with Spittin' Chicklets.
And then Big Brother at the office, you guys planned that during Chicklets Cup. Another just very smooth move by Barstool to not have me or Biz be able to be in Big Brother.
Sounds like you've been squeezed out.

I did not go to because of my choice.

I went to because of my job and my profession and having to be present in those moments.

Because I heard there were meetings that took place where they said like months and months in advance,

hey, this is when we're going to do it.

And that Ryan Whitney was like, yeah, I'm in.

Let's do it.

Well, I didn't know when the draft and the awards was.

Yeah, they don't put that on a schedule. So if the draft and the awards weren't then, you would have been there? Yes.
Not vacation? No. Because then when I saw everyone going, I was like, oh, yeah, okay, I'll go.
Hank, why are you giving that face, bro? I would have. And I was wrong about the vacation time.
But my thing

was you should have had it in the fall. I understand

though you had to get it out before the Ryder Cup and it

takes you guys like six months to edit stuff.

So I understand completely. Max.

And in the end, I promise I would have

been there had it not been during a

Chiclet's work trip. Capital W.

Because the way Hank asked that question

made it seem like he had a gotcha

moment there. Not a gotcha moment.
Because I told Hank originally I was going to be on vacation on those dates. Yeah.
Guys, you get one week vacation a year when you work this hard. I thought you said that you took the summer off.
Yeah, I did. Yeah.
Okay. It was a long week.
So one week vacation during the work calendar. It felt like a week.
Where'd you go? Nowhere. Golf.
Just golfed. What was your question? Went to Nantucket for a couple weeks.
Are you going to go into Dave's tunnel house that doesn't have tunnels? If I'm invited, I would like to go check that house out. And I do think there are tunnels there.
I don't think that gets made up out of nowhere. He's just so dumb he wouldn't even know.
If he paid that much money and didn't have have tunnels he should get his money back because that's a bad buy yeah exactly i feel like the price was set at that point because of the tunnel tunnels are worth at least 20 million easy you know for a fact that he heard the the news break of tunnels in the house and he probably called the real estate agent like there's tunnels like he he had no clue going in yeah for sure yeah and then he says there isn't any so i guess he's been told no but i'd like to believe there are yeah there are yeah they're tunnels you're gonna find elio down there just ripping a shirt off in the tunnel during an over in the cup final well elio did the best video because he when dave bought a 42 million dollar house elio did a video being like we made it we did it we did it congrats to us can't believe we did it all right hank what was your one question uh were you in ireland recently playing golf and follow up if so yes how was it oh it was incredible it was an unreal trip work what's up does this work no this was not work but i flew home from ireland and then i had to get on a plane and go to buffalo for chiclet's cup that's work ethic that's showing up to do your job that's leaving no man vacation to your work so a bender in ireland followed by a bender in maybe the bigger drinking spot in the world than ireland buffalo that's when you know you're earning every penny that's going into your bank account but i was in ireland it was beautiful although it's crazy you go to northern ireland and they really, really hate Catholics. A lot of them.
Like they fucking hate your guts out there. You found this out just recently? There's giant British flags flying everywhere.
So I enjoy Dublin a little bit more when you get to the Irish, you get to the Catholic and you get to enjoy yourself without some grumpy Northern Irish people in your face. Yeah.
I learned don't order an Irish car bomb when you're in Ireland. They don't like that.
It's not funny. It's not funny to them.
Yeah, it's a little travel advice from PFT. They look at that phrase in a much different light than what we would look at it in.
Did you go to Wingnuts? What? Did you go to Wingnuts when you were in Buffalo? No, we didn't even... What the fuck? We were busy.
All the jokes I make were actually busy. You worked too much.
We worked too much much bud but i i went to another wing place i can't remember the name there last time last chiclet's cup it was phenomenal but it wasn't wing nuts is that your number one that's our number one it's so good it's the best what are they a sponsor no one of the best meals of all time we sponsored them oh really yeah we sold shirts because the owners ed and alicia were running it out of a Knights of Columbus. Like, they were literally running out of a kitchen in a Knights of Columbus rec hall.
Okay. Yeah.
Okay. No big deal.
Fair enough. When's your next vacation, Ryan? Next week? I got February school vacation.
We're going to Florida for a week. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
So, I swear to God, we a chicklet's trip to California in two weeks. We got a chicklet's trip to Atlanta the week after that.
We got a chicklet's trip to Chicago early December. And then I'm not doing anything.
And then I'll try to go down to Florida to play golf for like two nights in January. But you deserve don't hold me to that.
You deserve that. I do.
After all this grinding. I know.
I mean, you guys you guys work your bag I don't know what you're doing. You both got $50 million in the back now, so fucking stop working so hard, guys.
Hank's putting in hours now, and he's going to just take all summer off. He's on the Ryan Whitney.
Hank golfs more than me. Yeah.
He golfs more than everyone. He golfs more than everyone.
He golfs more than Brooks Koepka. Simulator's going to be done today.
I'm going to have to test it out. Grind it out it out Grind it out, yeah Hey, who's your guy's white whale right now for interviews? That's a good question Brady Belichick would be good Kevin Durant I think you said Belichick to me last time Do you think there's ever a chance? Yeah, I think there's a chance I would say, yeah Kevin Durant,, Brady or Belichick.
Saban.

Saban, if he could actually talk ball with us, would be fucking awesome.

It seems like every white whale, at least for us, it's like they got to be retired.

You're just never going to get them real.

Yeah.

I know. When you guys get Conor Bedard on, I'm like, because he's so young.

I know.

And he's like, so doesn't want to step on any toes. We might have to drag you in for that one okay carry the load yeah i'll just say dumb shit and you that's what we do we interviewed logan cooley who's a stud rookie on the coyotes future superstar actually sick and he was like you know shy young he's 19 and biz and i were complete fools like idiots you just and i was like i don't think we had any other option there.
Yeah, you just say dumb shit, they laugh, and that's the interview. Yeah, that's it.
I can tell he's laughing. He's like, these guys are fucking morons.
Yeah, that's interview 101. He probably just wants to hang out with you.
Yeah, I don't know about that. Everyone wants to hang out with Biz.
I'm like the grumpy old guy that looks older than he even is. So nobody wants to hang out with me.
to meet biz i got family members asking if they can meet biz do you have to be like business chaperone when you guys on when you go on these trips or you're like do you act like is like you look after him no there is no looking after biz you walk down the street everyone right i i know this sounds crazy but i think if biz walked down the street with like 10 NHL superstars, he might get recognized more than all of them.

It's out of control.

I believe that.

So he's walking and he's talking to everyone and he's actually great.

Like he stands and has conversations with everyone, but we're trying to walk to dinner and I'm always wherever we're going 10 minutes before he arrives, sometimes 20.

If he gets a call from Wayne Gretzky, he has to like get up from wherever he is and be like, yeah, I got your back. Recently, Gretzky called him.
He just stood up. He's like, oh, it's Wayne.
It's Wayne. Hold on.
I love it. Yeah.
He's his guy. He's a big shot.
He's his guy. All right.
Well, Whit, thank you. Can't wait to see you in December.
Thanks, guys. Yeah.
Going to be great. All the boys will be out here.
Last NHL thing I'll say. What is it here? Okay.
so these are my teams who can win the Stanley Cup. Vegas Golden Knights, Los Angeles Kings, Edmonton Oilers, Colorado Avalanche, Dallas Stars, New York Rangers, Carolina Hurricanes, Boston Bruins, Toronto Maple Leafs.
That's it. Okay.
Yep. No one from outside of that.
So there's two teams or three teams that if everything went right, Tampa, the Devils, and where was the other one? You said the Panthers? That's it. That's it.
Yeah. That's it.
Okay. I like that.
Oh, Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh. But that's been a tough start, too.
So there think whatever I listed as the cup winners and then three others, if everything magically happened at some point, they could do it. So I guess I got 11 cup winners.
Is there another Conor Bedard in the next draft? Yes. And so I am a coach's advisor.
I can't talk to the players, but I can talk to the coaches who can then talk to the players for the BU men's hockey team.'s where i played for three years and they are an amazing team they've started a little slow but it's going to be a special year they have a kid named macklin celebriani he's going to go macklin celebriani i love it mack what a fucking name he turned 17 in june or july and he's dominating college hockey 17 it's it's? It's big cat. It's nuts.
It's absolutely fucking nuts. And he plays all three zones.
He's defensively very aware. And then the second pick is a kid, Cole Iserman, and he's going to BU next year.
So if Celebrini goes back to BU after being picked first overall, then Iserman and Celebrini will be playing together at BU as the first and second overall pick. So there are some young studs coming in the game.
Jesus Christ. 2006 he was born.
Macklin Celebrini. You know what's funny is his dad works very closely with the Golden State Warriors and Steph Curry.
If you Google his dad, I think he's like a performance and strength coach type thing. Director of Sports Medicine and Performance for the Golden State Warriors.
Yeah. And we're trying to get him on the pod to talk about his career and raising this soon to be NHL superstar.
Rick Celebrini. Wow.
Macklin Celebrini. What a name.
And his sister is 14, I believe. She's the number one ranked tennis player in Canada.
Jesus Christ. Under 18.
So is a freshman at BU with him. A good defenseman.
So, obviously, there's something in the genes of this family. Jesus.
They got it all. They hogged it all.
Alright, Biz, you're the best. Can't wait to see you in a couple weeks.
I'm not Biz. You're the best.
I feel like I do that at least once every single time. He does.
That's who he really wishes was on the show, guys. All you people listening.
I know. It's not true.
We specifically requested Ryan Whitney. How could that be true? We knew Biz was going to be on TV tonight, so we specifically said you.
How could that be true when you're the number one PMT guest? You literally did numbers. Very true.
I take it back. I've taken a lot back this episode.
Yeah. Well, I apologize, Seth.
I wish I could say that was a bit but I literally just did it I wish I still had my coin because I would give it to you now to make you feel better You guys are great guys Hank's my king but you guys are good dudes Hank you want to give your coin? You're getting my coin So, Witt's got two cups. Well, two coins that could turn into cups.

And a silver medal.

And a silver medal.

And almost a runner-up for the Oilers.

Actually, I'm giving mine to the Tibbsnator.

Oh, no.

That was a bad idea.

That's another good one.

That's another good one.

That's another good one.

All right, boys.

All right.

See ya.

Thanks, Witt.

See you guys.

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Okay. Let's wrap up with Jimbo's.
Henry. I have a Jimbo.
I always take the same number in the lottery ball. Fuck off.
But for some reason, I didn't take it. And now all my friends are making fun of me because I'm a fucking moron.
Yeah. That hurt, Hank.
I have a Jimbo. I need to get a travel credit card.
Why is this just mine? That sounds awful. Enough for personal travel.
Oh, to get points.

Yeah.

My points game is terrible.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

You got to get points, bro.

It's all about the points.

What's the best points?

Sky miles?

I'll figure it out.

No, Chase.

You're going to get so many overly detailed explanations.

I can refer you a little, bro.

Oh, shit.

Yeah, no, I had a realization yesterday.

I was booking some personal travel. I don't book that much personal travel.
Where are you going? Thanksgiving, shit. Yeah, no, I had a realization yesterday.
I was booking some personal travel.

I don't book that much personal travel.

Where are you going?

Thanksgiving, Christmas.

A man like you taking that much vacation.

Family.

Do you guys care about family?

Golf.

Family.

What, are we talking Cali?

I'm going to San Diego to see my family.

Torrey Pines.

Golf.

With my family. Torrey Pines.
I bet you get some good points for golf. Yeah, whatever.
I got to figure that out. There's definitely a golf credit card out there.
It was at a bar for Halloween. A bunch of boys in the bathroom and a guy walked in with sunglasses and a blind walking stick.
I asked if he was Stevie Wonder. Luckily, he didn't hear me because moments later I realized he was actually blind as he used the walking stick to get to the urinal.
I probably left the bar. Oh, no.
Well, you could have just left the bathroom and then what is he going to do? Find you? Yeah, I mean, good news is he doesn't know what you look like. Right? Yeah.
It's also Halloween. It's Halloween.
You can't... It's Halloween.
You know what, though? You got to have a sense of humor. Yeah.
You got to laugh. And he knows it's Halloween.
It's Halloween. Also I feel like maybe he was doing the costume.
Well yeah. Yeah like I think maybe he was actually I think you were right.
I think he was just going so far into character. It would have been funny if the blind guy was like what do we all look the same to you? Yeah.
And like actually told you you were being racist. Yeah.
Not blindness. That would have that would have been funny i was flying with my dad to chicago for the wisconsin ruckers game a few weeks back as we were in the airport for a 7 a.m flight our flight was delayed five hours and i went on the app to see if we can switch to an earlier flight i saw that there was one at nine for no extra cost so i switched it turns out the flight was at 9 p.ming up travel when your dad puts you in charge of the plans is brutal.
Yeah, but your dad just looks at himself as being like, okay, that's my fault for putting my son in charge. Yeah, for raising you.
Maybe you sit there and get a James Harden scoop. That's sitting at the airport for that long.
Just cancel everything. Just leave.
Go home. All right, last one.
Last week, one of my good friends was so generous to offer me tickets to go to a college football game with him. It would have been a great time and a lot of fun, but I declined because there was a World Series game playing at the same time, and I was expecting my team to be there.
Well, my team got bounced in the CS, and now I feel like an asshole. Oh, man.
It was a lot of fun. We were on the field.
I'm sick. It was a lot of fun.
Being on the field for a major college football game is so much fun, especially when you don't have any other obligations like your team in the World Series. You made that narrative.
No one said that except for you. I asked you on Monday, and you said, no, I'm good.
Correct. Why? Because there was a World Series game.
You are the one who said the why. No, no, no.
I know why you were good. You don't like football? You don't like football, Max? I watched a football game.
Hmm. Hmm.
All right. Well, you watched it where? At a bar.
Oh, the bar that you thought you were going to watch the World Series at. That's not true.
Why did you not go? Because it was cold. Memes like that.
I just wanted to see the atmosphere. You wanted to get drunk.
I just wanted to see the atmosphere. You wanted to see the Phillies play in the World Series.
I'm right. Max can say I'm not right, but I'm 100% right.
You just spent 20 seconds trying to explain why you didn't go, and you were unable to think of a lie. That was astounding.
I texted him before game six. He thought there was no chance the Diamondbacks were winning two at the bank.
No, but correct. I did not think that we were going to lose two at the bank.
I didn't think it. I didn't think it.
I didn't think it. And that's why you didn't go to the game.
Also not true. You still haven't said why you didn't go.
I wanted to, you know, go see the town bars, you know, see what the atmosphere is like at the bars. There's no booze in the stadium.
Interesting. That is valid.
Yeah, that's valid. I would, but that's not why I would not enjoy going to a college.
No, but yeah, No booze in the stadium is crazy. It's stupid.
I agree. But that's not why.
I would not enjoy going to a college football. Yeah, no booze in the stadium is crazy.
It's stupid. I agree.
But that's not why. We all know why.
All right. I'm in a – I don't know what to do here.
Yeah. Hank, have you ever gotten this? No.
Has your number ever come up? I don't have a number. Yeah, you do.
Numbers. 17.
18. 31.
I'll go with... Now I'm like 20.
I'll go 71. I might have 17.
Memes? You're gotten it? By the way... Three.
Pre-Firefest. I'm not...
This is too much. I shouldn't have taken this much off my chin.

Beard-wise.

I'm seeing myself. Shane 10.

It's fat.

It's very fat.

72.

89.

89. 89.

Ooh.

89.

Who's going to be the first to get it?

Would have been Hank on Sunday.

I think it's going to be Jake.

Jake just finds a way.

We'll see.

Yeah.

Jake finds a way.

Okay, we'll see everyone on Friday.

Love you guys. Thank you.
Say after me, it's for better to be safe than sorry. I'm sorry.
Take on me. Take me on.
I'll be gone. You don of pain The things that you say Is it lifeblood Just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember You're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me Take me on I'll be gone

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