NFL Week 8, Fastest 2 Minutes, Kirk Cousins Season Is Over, The 49ers Are In Trouble And The Bengals Are Back

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, week eight of the NFL.

Speaker 1 We've got a lot to talk about. The Chiefs lose to the Broncos.
The Niners might be in trouble. Kirk Cousins.
A lot of games. Every game, fastest two minutes.
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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, October 30th, week 8.

Speaker 1 First whoop in the new studio.

Speaker 1 Some spread.

Speaker 1 We start in Pittsburgh, where Travis ATN News Network Wamsgand gained his way to a tough 74 yards on Sunday as Trevor Laurent is too damn high, is issuing eviction notices to all the hashtag analysts as he commanded the Jaguars offense on a wet, sloppy day.

Speaker 1 Najee by Nature said, are you down with OPP? Which today stands for Ouch Painful Picket as he left the game with a rib injury. Doug P.E.D.
Erson was coaching with extra T is the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 Yes, the Jaguars have won five straight football games.

Speaker 1 Jaguars, 20. Steelers, 10.
What? What?

Speaker 1 We head over to DC where Sam Halloween came dressed as a franchise quarterback, throwing for four touchdowns with only one sack of candy.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts got out of his garfunkle, singing me and Julio down by the schoolyard as Jones scored his first touchdown in the Eagles jersey. And Ron Rivera is such a bad coach.

Speaker 1 It should be against the law. It was against the law because he's on his way.
I don't know where he's going.

Speaker 1 As KJ Brown absolutely loved Emmanuel Forbes man-to-man, leaving Rawl John happy with a win. The Eagles, 34.
The Commanders, 31.

Speaker 1 Down to, it was 38-31. We got a producer who's giving a little confused look.

Speaker 1 The Eagles

Speaker 1 scored

Speaker 1 38 points. The Washington Commanders scored 31 points.
Unfortunately,

Speaker 1 our producer said, you want to fucking go? He said, you want to fucking go? You just wait for the playoffs. I look ridiculous.

Speaker 1 You don't want to see these commanders in the playoffs if you're Donnie Berg.

Speaker 1 Down to Big D, where Daction Bronson Prescott looked Albanian as Sean McVay said, Hey, you're a pee all over me.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys took one look at the Rams secondary on Sunday and said, Fuck, that's delicious. Duron DeSantis Bland had quarterbacks in Guantanamo this year, scoring his third pick six on the season.

Speaker 1 And Dallas showed a lot of force gumption as Mike McCarthy said,

Speaker 1 I think you should throw the ball to CD Alama.

Speaker 1 and they did for 158 yards and two scores cowboys 43 rams 20. i i started to slip into a brandon walker i was like what why

Speaker 1 why

Speaker 1 up to green bay where the packers missed their best good friend bubba franks as they were without a tight end again and green bay fans said i'm not a very smart man dena but i know what love is and he stakes as the packers took another shot directly in the butt tox on their season.

Speaker 1 The big story from this game was the unfortunate injury to Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 But if there's one guy who knows how to look after the welfare of a rich man like Vikings owner Ziggy Wilf, it's the old gunslinger himself, Brett Farr, who would be happy to take a break from his busy schedule of building volleyball stadiums to defraud the Vikings to the tune of a couple million dollars.

Speaker 1 The Vikings, 24. The Packers, 10.
In Nashville, where DeAndre I. Hopkins isn't waffling anymore, serving up a short stack with three scores.

Speaker 1 After skipping work for the last couple of months, Derek Henry Lockwood has officially returned and will be working every weekend for at least the next three months. Round of applause.

Speaker 1 Congratulations. He's doing his job.
It's incredible. It's the workforce balance boom.

Speaker 1 Titan fans are riding a huge wild though after their rookie quarterback threw four touchdowns on the way to a win. Titans 28, Falcons 23.

Speaker 1 Down to Miami, where Mac Lamour Jones found his game at the thrift shop. As he said, when I was in third grade, I thought I could play.
As for Alabama, I wish I could stay.

Speaker 1 Juju Smith Amy Schuster seems to have lost his role as the new plaything. And a waddle of red, a waddle white, as Tyreek Hilly Joel and company continue to put out hit after hit.

Speaker 1 And Bill Belichick looked like he was going to have a heart attack. Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac.
Two out of no by now. The Patriots suck.
Dolphins 31. The Patriots 17.

Speaker 1 To the desert where Todd Monkin Donuts glazed the Cardinals and gave them a cream pie filling. Gus Johnson Edwards teamed up with Lamazarati driving his car into the end zone three times on Sunday.

Speaker 1 The Cardinals made a furious comeback late when Trey Danny McBride said, I play real sports, not trying to be the best at exercising, as he bullied his way into the end zone.

Speaker 1 But it was all for naught as Squash Dobbs turned back into a pumpkin and Harbaugh's team played like a bunch of stallions. Get it?

Speaker 1 Get it?

Speaker 1 Ravens 31. Cardinals 24.
What? What?

Speaker 1 Over to Mile High where Pat Sick Mahomes had the flu. He had COVID? No, he had the flu.
Oh, so Covid.

Speaker 1 And Brussel Wilson didn't look good, but he was packed with vitamins as he hooked up with Cortland. Let's give him something to talk about for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Jaquan McMillion Dollars worth a game made this loss very tough to wallow. And for the first time since my good friend Barack Obama was president, the Broncos beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 They never did it when my good friend Donald Trump was president or when my very good friend Joe Biden was asleep at the wheel. Broncos, 21.
Chiefs, 9.

Speaker 1 Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston down in Nola. Such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 1 It's Olive ain't my lord, speeding in his fork, getting pulled over by NOPD.

Speaker 1 Come on, Mincho, stop throwing picks, dude.

Speaker 1 Success isn't owned in sleaze, and now the rest

Speaker 1 dude. Saints go marching 38-27.

Speaker 1 And that is the fastest two minutes from week eight.

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Speaker 1 Okay, week eight in the books as we watch the Bears get absolutely demolished.

Speaker 1 We will talk about this game at the end, but PFT, we got a week eight to talk about. We got a lot of games to talk about.

Speaker 1 Just before we even get into the first game,

Speaker 1 maybe it's age. My brain wasn't able to comprehend nine games at noon.
It was a lot. It was overload.

Speaker 7 There was a lot of games going on at once. It was hard to keep track of all of them at the same time, but we barely, barely paid attention to the Texans Panthers game.

Speaker 1 We had it on the side.

Speaker 7 I think we watched it in the last like 10 minutes of the game. We started tuning into that.
But yeah, it's a lot of football. And listen, I'm never going to complain about too much football.

Speaker 1 I'm not, but I will complain about no bye weeks. I think that was kind of fucked up that they did that to us because we had a nice rhythm.

Speaker 7 Especially week eight. Right.

Speaker 1 And then you go no bye weeks. We're like, wait, what's going on right now? Because I feel like

Speaker 1 we're creatures of habit.

Speaker 1 When you have no bye weeks in early September we're just so happy football's back when you have no bye weeks at the end of the year there's some teams and games that you can completely ignore because it's completely irrelevant right in the middle of the season week eight when we're like truly finding out like okay these teams are season is over this team's you know uh in a funk it the it was hard it was hard it was difficult we like to watch ball it was a lot of ball i came up with an alternate schedule that pretty much lasts from the start of september until the like mid-may but you play one game a night for that entire time, and then it's the summertime, and everybody takes a break.

Speaker 1 It is also very funny just thinking about like

Speaker 1 how great our lives are, that like the

Speaker 1 biggest issue is, like, yeah,

Speaker 1 what was the hardest thing you had to deal with this week? Well, there were nine games at once.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, that was tough.

Speaker 1 That was tough.

Speaker 7 Blake also ate a squirrel this morning. Or sorry, a rat.

Speaker 1 That's not a U-programme. He ate a rat, so no problem.

Speaker 7 I hope it wasn't poisoned. We're on Blake watch right now.

Speaker 6 When you say eight, do you mean

Speaker 1 swallowed alive alive or dead? It was dead.

Speaker 1 Swallowed whole?

Speaker 7 He picked it up out of the grass and then he started chewing something. I was like, Blake, get over here.
And they looked at me and then he just swallowed.

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah.
Well, okay.

Speaker 7 He's fine. Yeah, he'll be fine.
He's a growing boy.

Speaker 1 A lot of people can interact. Yeah, exactly.
All right. Let's get into the games.

Speaker 1 I would say the most important,

Speaker 1 not most important game, but most important story from week eight is the first game. Vikings 24, Packers 10, and it is because of the Kirk Cousins injury, which sucks beyond belief.

Speaker 1 Kirk Cousins tears his Achilles.

Speaker 1 He is going to be a free agent next year. He also was playing awesome ball.
Like, he was on the precipice of being in the MVP conversation because the Vikings started to win games.

Speaker 1 They're now four and three. Like, they've rattled off some pretty nice wins or four and four,

Speaker 1 and it all comes crashing down with the Achilles.

Speaker 1 I actually, I genuinely feel terrible because we have done a, we've had a long history with Kirk Cousins on this podcast where we've made some jokes, but I think the last year or so, we've appreciated him more than made jokes, and it sucks to see this happen when he was playing great football.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Kirk Cousins is a he's a very nice guy, and so if you know him, he's like impossible to root against. You get frustrated with him sometimes,

Speaker 7 but I do feel bad for, I never thought it would feel bad for Kirk on like the brink of another free agency.

Speaker 7 because he's you know he's going to make a lot of money, but this is pretty bad timing as far as that goes.

Speaker 1 I think it's more bad timing just because the Vikings were, to start the season, I mean, they were my pinky team. To start the season, it couldn't have gone worse.

Speaker 1 And the way they've played in the last month, they are, with the wide openness of the NFC, like they were probably going to be a playoff team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, they were winning games without Justin Jefferson. Their defense was playing well.
Daniel Hunter's leading the league in sacks.

Speaker 1 Like, all these things were starting to come into place for the Vikings. And then this happens.
It's a bummer.

Speaker 7 It's a very big bummer. I'm going to quote Florier here because he asked a a very interesting question.
He said, Am I the only one thinking that the Vikings should call Tom Brady?

Speaker 7 I think he might be the only one. Yeah.
He might be the, because you can get your retweets off.

Speaker 7 You can get your clout up in the event that any quarterback is injured just by being like, where's Colin Kaepernick? That seems like an easy one to do. You can do,

Speaker 7 where's Tim Tebow?

Speaker 7 But going straight to Tom Brady for the Vikings.

Speaker 1 If the Vikings were 8-0, do you think that Tom Brady would entertain it?

Speaker 7 Let's ask Hank, the Tom Brady whisperer.

Speaker 1 I don't. The Vikings receivers are phenomenal.
They're winning games without Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 1 Like I said, Jordan Addison, when we do our rankings of best positioned groups all time, it's probably going to be Vikings' receivers because it feels like they just get generational talent after generational talent.

Speaker 1 Justin Jefferson is that generational talent, and Jordan Addison is really damn good and has been really damn good in his first seven starts or eight starts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think Tom Brady, if they were eight-no, he would at least take the call.

Speaker 7 I think he would. He would take the call.

Speaker 1 He would take it. He would take the call.
Yeah, he'd be like, hey, wait.

Speaker 6 Thanks for the call. No.

Speaker 1 Oh. I don't know about that.

Speaker 7 If they were eight, no, Hank.

Speaker 6 Minnesota?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Dude, winning a Super Bowl for the first time in the franchise history.

Speaker 6 As he was taking the call, he would open his phone, look at the weather app, and be like, Minnesota. Oh, yeah,

Speaker 1 because they play outside, right?

Speaker 6 Yeah, but just living in Minnesota.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Tom Brady would never live in a cold weather area.

Speaker 1 That doesn't sound like he'd have to live in Minnesota for three months. I don't think he would do it.
Okay. I think he'd take the call.
He'd definitely take the call.

Speaker 7 He would take the call and he'd say, I'm interested. What number? And then he'd be like, yeah, I can't do that.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Sorry.

Speaker 1 But maybe if Justin Jefferson called him. What are the Vikings going to do? So Jaron Hill, or Jaron Hall, sorry.
BYU, I believe.

Speaker 7 Yep.

Speaker 1 Because I bet on him and then Puka didn't play and I got smoked.

Speaker 1 These are bad memories. Jaron Hall, backup.

Speaker 1 Who are they going to, like, Taylor Heineke?

Speaker 7 I've got a couple answers for him.

Speaker 1 Okay, because I have a few names as well.

Speaker 7 Okay, Taylor Heineke is one. Yep.
They should definitely inquire about him.

Speaker 7 Another one, Colt McCoy. And I keep trying to press Colt McCoy back into the league.
I wanted to see him on the Jets when Aaron Rodgers went down.

Speaker 7 I feel like Colt McCoy would be a good answer there. Let's see who else.

Speaker 1 Oh, Kyle Sloeder.

Speaker 7 Kyle Sloeder,

Speaker 7 you had the best preseason quarterback of all time playing on your team.

Speaker 1 Give Kyle Sloeder a shot. So, like, Florio being the only one to mention Tom Brady, you were definitely the only one to mention Kyle Sloeder.

Speaker 7 I am 100%.

Speaker 7 But they should be mentioning him. Kyle Sloeder is a good player.
He is a good football player. Give him a shot.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jacoby Brissette for sure. Yep.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 I was going to say Justin Fields, but that would be, I think Tyson. Maybe Tyson Pagent.
Maybe. Maybe they've seen enough of him.

Speaker 7 I'd like to see Brett Favre come back just for one game and have him get absolutely destroyed.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 wrecked.

Speaker 7 Have him play against the Saints again and have him get just his face mask shoved into his nose. That would be fun.

Speaker 1 What if, what if, what if the Titans sold as high as you possibly can sell on Will Levis? Yeah. I don't think.
He's phenomenal today.

Speaker 7 Tannehill, you could probably get Tannehill for the rest of the day.

Speaker 1 That's Kirk Cousins adjacent. Yeah.
It's actually not a bad idea.

Speaker 7 Yeah, like Kirk Cousins with, if he had like a partially torn Achilles.

Speaker 1 That's what you're getting. If there was anyone to take this role for the Vikings, I would like it to be a Derek Carr, Ryan Tannehill, or Jimmy G.
What about this

Speaker 7 trade for Aaron Rodgers? Oh. Because the Jets are hot right now with Zach Wilson.

Speaker 1 Faster timeline on his Achilles.

Speaker 7 Exactly. Get him back in the house.

Speaker 1 We've finished the whole process.

Speaker 7 Get him in Minnesota. Yeah.
And that would actually complete the Aaron Rodgers to Brett Farmer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's what they should do.

Speaker 7 Memes, what do you say?

Speaker 1 Do it.

Speaker 7 You like Zach Wilson now?

Speaker 1 Memes is feeling himself right now. The Jets, he's feeling himself.
He was a barn burner today. He's walking around with his chest puffed out.

Speaker 1 Either way, the Vikings are playing great ball, and now we don't know what's going to happen because it sucks a lot.

Speaker 1 and they went into Lambeau and that was never a game and that's the other part of this story.

Speaker 1 I foolishly thought this was the spot to back the Packers because it was the Vikings off a big win against the Niners. The Packers look terrible.
Turns out the Packers are just dog shit.

Speaker 7 They're just a dog shit team. They're bad.

Speaker 7 Did you know that this was,

Speaker 7 it continues a

Speaker 7 32-year winless streak against the Vikings by the Packers unless they have Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre playing. It's a long time that they haven't beat the Vikings.

Speaker 1 Without Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre.

Speaker 1 I have some,

Speaker 1 I think they call them insult stats.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I somehow

Speaker 1 am at the end of a lot of insult stats with the Bears. I found a couple funny insult stats that I wanted to share with you, PFT.

Speaker 1 Kind of an ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun situation.

Speaker 1 The Brewers.

Speaker 1 who got swept in the wild card

Speaker 1 have more wins in October than the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 7 Oh, wow, that is interesting.

Speaker 1 One to zero. Yeah.
That's interesting, right? It's very interesting. The Bucs, who, I think the Bucs played tonight, so it doesn't really matter because they were 1-0 going in tonight.

Speaker 1 Their season started like four days ago.

Speaker 1 The Bucs have more wins in October than the Packers have touchdowns in the first half of all of October.

Speaker 7 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 The Packers haven't scored a touchdown in 10 consecutive first quarter halves.

Speaker 1 First quarters. Or first quarter halves, yes.
There's no way. So first and second quarter, five straight games.
They have not scored a first half touchdown.

Speaker 7 There's no way that's right.

Speaker 1 It's right. It's right.
And I'm actually going to have Shane put these on a little graphic for me. I'm going to tweet them out.
It's going to be great.

Speaker 1 I also found one other insult stat that kind of goes back and insults me, but I'm going to say it anyway.

Speaker 1 PFT, did you know that Aaron Rodgers in 2018 and 2019

Speaker 1 combined those two seasons? So 32 games, he had six interceptions. Jordan Love in seven games has eight interceptions.

Speaker 7 That doesn't sound like a good sign at all for the Great Britain.

Speaker 1 That's pretty bad. They got to actually give Jordan.
Listen, Jordan Love, he doesn't have an offensive line. The kid's got talent.

Speaker 1 You got to maybe extend him, give him some more years.

Speaker 1 Jerry's a chance.

Speaker 7 Let's wait till all the facts come out on Jordan Love.

Speaker 7 I was going to throw in one other insult stat, but I'm not going to.

Speaker 1 Do it. Do it.
Well, no, you're not going to like this. Oh, you're going to insult me?

Speaker 7 Yeah, well, it's going to be a double.

Speaker 1 Well, why would you do that? That's why I'm going to do it. Go ahead.
That's why I'm not going to do it. No, I won't do it.
No, fair is fair. I won't do it.
Fair is fair.

Speaker 1 It's just interesting because the Packers just stink, and it's going to take a while for my brain to realize that they stink, but they fucking suck.

Speaker 7 I was just going to say, you know what? You know what? Wisconsin's won two games in October.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 They've won two. They've won two.
Hey, well, guess what?

Speaker 1 The Badgers are bull eligible. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 7 The Packers are not. Is JMU? We'll see.
We're going to wait till all the facts facts come out on that one.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. We're playing for a bull.

Speaker 7 Where are you guys ranked? I'm trying to look at. I don't see a number next to you.

Speaker 1 I mean, you guys are playing Sunbelt team. 23.
Your best win is Virginia.

Speaker 7 It looks like 23.

Speaker 1 Who beat UNC?

Speaker 7 Pretty good.

Speaker 1 Who lost to Georgia Tech?

Speaker 7 Georgia Tech's a good football program. UNC.
Great football program.

Speaker 1 The shine has come off UNC very quickly. We'll talk college football on Wednesday.
But yeah, the Packers are bad. They are officially a bad team.
They are. Like, there's no...

Speaker 1 They're just a bummer.

Speaker 7 Yeah. They're no fun to watch.

Speaker 1 Isn't that crazy, though?

Speaker 1 10 first quarter, or sorry, first half quarters, they have not scored a touchdown.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that is crazy.

Speaker 1 That's so bad to start out every single game. And that's even including a bye week where you'd think they'd come out hot and like, you know, everything dialed up.
No.

Speaker 1 They just put themselves in holes, and then Jordan Love tries to get them out until he throws an interception.

Speaker 7 So here's one stat that I saw that I... I didn't believe at first because when you think of the Minnesota Vikings, you don't think of like perennial winners, perennial

Speaker 7 closeout guys on the Vikings, but they're 52-1

Speaker 7 when they lead in the fourth quarter in their last 53 games. That's pretty crazy, isn't it? Yeah, that is pretty crazy.
Their one loss is the Blair Walsh game, where

Speaker 7 he missed like, what was that, like a 30-yarder against the Seahawks

Speaker 1 in that game when it was like zero degrees.

Speaker 7 But the Vikings just don't lose.

Speaker 7 If they have a lead in the fourth quarter, they will win the game.

Speaker 1 Wow. That is actually a pretty impressive story.

Speaker 7 It's wild, right? Because you don't think of the Vikings as being like,

Speaker 7 they'll stomp on your throat.

Speaker 1 Don't give them a lead in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you think of the Vikings playing like weird, close games, but no, if they have a lead in the fourth, they will kill you.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Like, I was looking at the Vikings schedule.
I still think if they can get even anything out of Jaron Hall, like

Speaker 1 it's going to be tough because Kirk Cousins was playing great, but

Speaker 1 they still could salvage some of their seasoning. It will be interesting because now we're one day away from the trade deadline.

Speaker 7 I think it's Tuesday. So Monday or is it Tuesday?

Speaker 1 So they might start trying to unload some things. I got another guy, Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bring him home. Yeah.
He's in Detroit right now.

Speaker 7 We're in number 50.

Speaker 1 That would actually be perfect.

Speaker 7 It would be cool, wouldn't it?

Speaker 8 Tuesday, 4 p.m. Eastern.

Speaker 1 Tyson Agent just threw his third interception of the game.

Speaker 7 He might not be the guy.

Speaker 1 He might not be the guy. That's okay.

Speaker 1 We tested it. We tested it.
It's actually better. You know what? Ha ha.

Speaker 7 I'm laughing. You're trying for a draft pick.
You're trying for the first overall pick.

Speaker 1 Well, not only that, but you don't want to have a QB controversy. It gets all messy and people got to take sides and people got to argue.

Speaker 1 And you basically have to walk around and have this conversation everywhere you go like no it's it's fine he's not he's a he's a fun moxie guy and he might be a backup for a very long time he might have the it factor yeah that doesn't mean that he's good right but he's got the it factor right he gets rid of the ball quickly uh okay

Speaker 1 so uh next game next game eagles 38 commanders 31.

Speaker 1 I'll start with some Eagles stats and then you can tell us PFT how you're feeling.

Speaker 1 AJ Brown is absolutely ridiculous after the week two win against the Vikings when he was seen arguing with Jalen Hurts on the sideline. Remember, Jalen Hurts had to answer questions in the media.
A.J.

Speaker 1 Brown didn't speak to the media. Since that moment, he has had over 125 yards in six straight games, and that is an NFL record.

Speaker 1 It's absolutely ridiculous how good he is, and the Eagles are better than the Commanders, although the Commanders play him well.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think that's probably a fair thing to say. It's going to be a close game, so that's why, Max, you don't want want to see us in the playoffs.
If we make as the, what, sixth seed?

Speaker 7 If we get in there as a sixth seed and you guys are, well, no, then you'd be trying to remember how the seeding works there.

Speaker 1 You don't want to play us in the playoffs. They'd have to be a two-seed.
You'd be a seven-seed.

Speaker 7 And then you don't want to play us. Yeah.
That's a fact. Sam Howell had a great day today.
Sam Howell looked awesome.

Speaker 1 Until he did.

Speaker 7 This is, well, he threw one bad interception, but he also could have won the game a couple times. Terry McLaurin had some bad drops.
I'm more concerned about what it is Ron Rivera does on this team.

Speaker 7 There was a moment when the Eagles were driving. It was fourth and four.
They completed a pass to Devontae Smith. Ball hits the ground.
They rule it a catch on the field.

Speaker 7 Rivera stands there on the sidelines with his transition lenses darkening, depending on whatever his mood is at the time. It's like a mood ring for his eyes.
Doesn't do anything. Doesn't say anything.

Speaker 7 The Eagles sprint up to the ball. They run a play like really, really fast, get the snap off.
Then they asked Rivera after the game why he didn't challenge.

Speaker 7 And he said, well, I didn't see the replay on the Jumbotron, so I didn't want to throw my flag fair answer is that is that how we're running things now where your coach waits to see it on the jumbotron and decides whether or not to throw a flag and he's like and then you know the eagles are sprinting up to the ball trying to trying to run a snap and so I ran out of time to throw why do you think they were sprinting up to the ball Ron what do you do here what does Ron Rivera do here is my big question verbal meme Michigan State and Ron Rivera the Jumbotron let us down it did it did the jumbotron let us down Ron Rivera let us down it was it's bad

Speaker 7 We're going to be probably trading away either sweat or young by this time tomorrow when the show comes out.

Speaker 1 I heard maybe Bears.

Speaker 7 I've just reached the point where I will be rooting for whatever team gets young or sweat.

Speaker 1 It's like root for your guys.

Speaker 7 That's why I like cheering for Trenton Williams.

Speaker 7 When you're a really bad team, you develop all these different layers of cope and all these different habits that you pick up through years of ineptitude.

Speaker 7 And one of my favorite ones is just rooting for guys that I used to root for. But I tell myself, you know what?

Speaker 7 It's more about these guys that were so much a part of the fabric of the community, Big Cat, when they were around.

Speaker 7 You want to see them do well when you go somewhere else, which is why I was so disappointed when Trey Turner and Bryce Harper got out in the ninth inning.

Speaker 7 That was tough for me personally as just a fan of the community.

Speaker 1 This is mean what you're doing.

Speaker 7 But no, congrats, Max.

Speaker 7 You guys are a better team, although Sam Howell, I do think. So here's where I'm at with Sam Howell.

Speaker 7 Sam Howell is the guy.

Speaker 1 He played very well today.

Speaker 7 He is the guy. He was Peyton Manning.
He was amazing today. He might have been the best quarterback in the NFL this entire week.
Like, he was that good. Will Levis.
He was fun to watch.

Speaker 7 Will Levis was, yeah, he was. Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 1 He was really, really good.

Speaker 7 Jalen Hurts did okay. No.

Speaker 1 Is he all right?

Speaker 7 Is he like fully?

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts played very well. Jalen Hurts played.
Don't you think that's a good thing? Jalen Hurts played very well. He did play very well.

Speaker 2 324 touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, he played very well, but he's not healthy.
No.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 that just goes to show how the heart of a lion that guy has.

Speaker 2 That's my guy. That's my quarterback.
You can tell that he's not 100% right now. Mostly getting on and off the field.

Speaker 2 He's like hobbling to the sideline every time, but he just goes out there and takes hits and wins football games.

Speaker 1 That's your guy. You have his back.
If anyone says they hope Jalen Hurts gets hurt, Max will just sit there on his hands and do absolutely nothing. That's how much of his guy it is.

Speaker 2 That's not true.

Speaker 1 I see exactly what happens.

Speaker 2 Stern speaking to.

Speaker 7 And he'll also think about what he should have said two days later.

Speaker 1 And Jerkstore should say that. Jerkstore should have said that.

Speaker 1 I thought, yes.

Speaker 7 The French actually have a term for that. They call it staircase wit, where you make it down the staircase, and you're like, ah, that's what I should have said.
That's what I should have said.

Speaker 7 I'm going to go back up. But yeah, congrats, Max.
The Eagles were, I think, a better overall team today, definitely. Our offensive line played really well, though.
Yeah, you only won sack.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was cool. Like, when you give Sam Howell time, he can absolutely pick you apart.
The Eagles... took advantage of a ridiculously bad defense.

Speaker 7 And if you're Ron Rivera and you and Jack Del Rio are apparently in charge of this defense, do you think that the best way to get the confidence of your first-round pickup is to send him in man-to-man coverage with A.J.

Speaker 7 Brown again? Like, that's exactly where he lost all of his confidence. Let's go out there and let's get Emmanuel Forbes torched again on the outside.

Speaker 1 But played him tough.

Speaker 7 The Eagles are a very good team. Very good team, Max.

Speaker 1 I also think

Speaker 2 this is the second time we've played the Commanders. I've only watched Commanders from start to finish two times.

Speaker 1 commanders look like a good football team to me i've only watched commanders start to finish once they sucked yeah the bears true no i actually no the commanders are i i've said this before the commanders have a lot of really good players they just as a cohesive team don't play like good football like they have guys that are really really fucking good at football and then when you put them all together and have them stand on the same side of the field it's like wait what happened yeah it's like terry mclaur and jahan dotson are great brian Robinson is awesome.

Speaker 1 Jay Thomas is good. Sam Howell is good.
Their defensive line is good.

Speaker 7 What do you think the common denominator in all this is?

Speaker 2 Coach.

Speaker 7 It might be the coach. It might be the coach.

Speaker 1 It might be Ron. Might be the coach.

Speaker 7 He always needs more time.

Speaker 1 In defense of Ron Rivera, it's probably got to be a weird feeling to have ownership change. Know you're going to get fired.

Speaker 1 Everyone's had a job where they know, like, we know where this is going. We know where this is heading.
It's kind of like Hank right now with Barstool. Like, we know where it's heading.

Speaker 1 We'll take our time off. We just aren't going to put in a lot of effort.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 7 You're doing your best, Ron Rivera impression right now.

Speaker 1 You're not talking right after that. You're not talking.
No, but it is like, if anything, Ron Rivera should be commended as being a relatable guy.

Speaker 1 Like, you've had a job that you know that it's not going to work out long term, and you kind of just mail it in.

Speaker 7 He's been checked out for, I'd say, like a year and a half. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So his job was basically to bring in some sense of stability to the organization because when Snyder was running the team, it was like every other week was a dumpster fire of epic proportions.

Speaker 7 And Rivera's job was just to go up there and be like, say the word like certainly a lot.

Speaker 7 Like we're certainly going to look into a lot of these things and certainly this is a tough job and you got to keep your eye on the big picture here.

Speaker 7 And certainly as a head coach, that's what I'm going to do. Like that was, he's very good at saying he's like Roger Goodell in coach form.

Speaker 1 Is there a chance? Because I think the change of ownership. Ron Rivera knows how this works.
Once the owner gets changed, he's going to bring in his own guys. He's going to let the year year play out.

Speaker 1 Is there a chance Ron Rivera is an AWL and he stopped trying because PFT kept on saying that the deal has been done for the last year and a half? The timelines match up. There's a chance.

Speaker 1 The timelines match up.

Speaker 6 No, we saw him on the side of the road that time and he wouldn't get in the car.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, we also were like six deep in a car and we're like, hey, Ron, coach, get in the car. Yeah, but you know what?

Speaker 1 But if he was an AWL sky, oh shit, Mike McDaniel would have gotten in the car.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's true. Like a fun coach.
He would have sat on our lap. Yeah, for sure.
We could just scream him in the trunk.

Speaker 1 Fravel would have jumped on on the roof. He would have stole our car.
Yeah. Be like, this is my car now.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Rivera was just walking sadly by himself at the Gombine, like five blocks away from where any events were happening.

Speaker 7 That should have been a clue. He probably was just going on a walk, clearing his mind, being like,

Speaker 7 so I need to sell my house soon. I got to get on the market, hire a realtor.
My kids might have to switch schools.

Speaker 1 No, but he probably was walking by himself being like, this PFT guy said the deal was done. He put on t-shirts.
He put t-shirts out, and the deal hasn't been done. What are we doing here? I was right.

Speaker 7 I was right. So,

Speaker 7 yeah, Rivera, he knew that he was going into the season, too, because he gave a preseason press conference where he said,

Speaker 7 you know,

Speaker 7 this is a very tumultuous time for the franchise, and I don't know if I'm going to be here next year. So, my job is to set the team up with as good players.

Speaker 7 He sounded like he was checked out already once the season started. And he's certainly coached like a guy that's 100% checked out on everything.
Yeah. So, I don't know what Josh Harris's M.O.
is.

Speaker 7 Max, maybe you can tell me. As he owns the 76ers, he's done, I think, a great job.
He got an MVP there. I would love an MVP for the Commanders.

Speaker 1 Almost Eastern Conference final appearance. Yeah.

Speaker 7 He has the confetti ready to go at any given time. But I'm just curious to know, like, from your perspective, will he fire a coach mid-season?

Speaker 7 Well, I guess he didn't fire Doc Rivers this season, did he?

Speaker 1 How has Max been owned this much? Well, we're talking about his seven and one team. This is all the best team in the NFL right now, record-wise.

Speaker 1 And we're just finding a way to just twist the knife on it.

Speaker 7 It's all I have. I'm trying to deflect from the fact that I have to get a perm.

Speaker 1 Max. Yes.
Okay. Yeah, you do have to get a perm.
You do have to get a perm.

Speaker 7 Where does one go to get a perm?

Speaker 1 Sport clips. Sport clips.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 7 They'll perm you up. I'm going to get so, so fucking permed.
Perm Edwards.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're going to look great. Max,

Speaker 1 I will give you a chance here. You're 7-1.
Jalen Hurts is hurt.

Speaker 1 Dallas this week.

Speaker 2 We're on to Dallas. We're on the Dallas.

Speaker 1 So, how are you feeling overall about the Eagles? Like, just stay as healthy as you can and keep winning games.

Speaker 2 Winning this week would be huge because then you got the buy coming up next week. You got to get healthy.
I still think there's probably going to be a move or two.

Speaker 2 I don't want to say it.

Speaker 7 No, say it. It's a podcast.
Just say it.

Speaker 2 We may go after Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 7 You do think that every good player belongs to the English.

Speaker 1 You're the Yankees.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes. And that is.

Speaker 2 Well, those were rumors that were coming out.

Speaker 1 Drayton Kelly Green.

Speaker 2 Those were rumors that were coming out

Speaker 2 last week. And then Kenneth Gainwell had the big fumble today.
And they obviously don't want to put too much on DeAndre Swift, so they want to go two backs.

Speaker 2 But if Kenneth Gainwell isn't not going to be the guy, and Derrick Henry's available.

Speaker 1 What about Jonathan Taylor? Well, he's just signed a new deal.

Speaker 6 Did you see the, I don't know if it's 100% true or not, that Kenneth Gainwell was replying to DMs during halftime?

Speaker 1 Is this true? Oh, no, Max.

Speaker 2 I did not see that, but

Speaker 2 I said I literally never want to see Kenneth Gainwell again. And then he actually had a pretty decent game after that fumble, but I still would.

Speaker 1 You never want to see him again on the

Speaker 1 guy? On the football field.

Speaker 7 What kind of DMs are we talking about, Hank?

Speaker 6 The guy said, hold on to the football, you fucking bum. Agreed.
At 206.

Speaker 1 Wait, are these from Philly Max Delente?

Speaker 6 I think so. And then he replied, Lil Boy, don't text me.

Speaker 1 Little boy. That sounds like little boy.

Speaker 1 That was a Bernie Jerry DM. That was a little boy play.
Yeah. That funnel was a little boy play.

Speaker 1 Okay, so no more Kenneth Gainwell.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and beat Dallas.

Speaker 7 And beat Dallas. Beat Dallas.
That's going to be a fun game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a scary game, but it's at home. Apparently, the get-in price is $500 right now.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 7 Probably less than that on game time.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, game time, last-minute deal. You'll be fine.

Speaker 7 I have a hypothetical.

Speaker 7 I verbalize this during the game, but I want to get everybody's opinion on this because I was thinking about, we were watching the Browns game simultaneous to when the Commanders are playing the Eagles.

Speaker 7 We have a very good backup quarterback on our team, Jacoby Brissette.

Speaker 7 He has some history in Cleveland. He was pretty good for the Browns.

Speaker 1 They love him there.

Speaker 7 If you were the Browns, would you take a trade, Jacoby Brissette, for Deshaun Watson straight up right now, if it meant that the Commanders would have to take on Deshaun Watson's entire salary?

Speaker 7 Would you like to wash your hands of Deshaun?

Speaker 7 No pun intended.

Speaker 7 And move on and say, okay, we're going going to cut our losses.

Speaker 7 Deshaun, there's a lot of money tied up for him. We know that Jacoby is like an average to maybe slightly above average quarterback.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 7 It sounds ridiculous to say because Deshaun Watson is like, obviously, his upside is way, way better than Jacoby Brissett's.

Speaker 7 But there's definitely a part of that front office that is like, we really fucked up with this contract.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think they would. No.

Speaker 2 You don't think so? No. Would the commanders want that?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I'm saying I don't want it.

Speaker 2 You don't like Sam Howell.

Speaker 7 I said I don't want it.

Speaker 1 Good point.

Speaker 2 I have seen Sam Howell play two football games very, very well. I think

Speaker 2 Sam Howell is a good quarterback. Yes.

Speaker 2 You're not sold on that.

Speaker 7 What I just said. Sam Howell, the guy.

Speaker 1 What I said in five minutes, the guy.

Speaker 1 I just, no.

Speaker 7 Rewind the tape. You guys are putting words in my mouth.
I just said Sam Howell is the guy.

Speaker 2 But you don't say it with your heart.

Speaker 7 Sam Howell is the fucking guy. He's the most guy ever.

Speaker 7 He is the guy.

Speaker 1 The guy. A guy.

Speaker 7 How he played today is better than I've seen a Washington quarterback play probably since like RG3's rookie year. Kirk Cousins.
Kirk Cousins had some nice games in there.

Speaker 7 I would much rather have, if you were to ask me next season, Sam Howell or bring Kirk back, it's coming home.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, Sam Howell.

Speaker 6 What about Sam Howell or Deshaun?

Speaker 1 Sam Howell. What about Sam Howell or Cale Williams? Sam Howell.
Sam Howell or Drake May.

Speaker 7 I don't know yet. Okay.
They're such good friends. They would probably want to play together.

Speaker 7 Okay. I think Sam Howell is the fucking guy.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm happy.
I'm happy to see him.

Speaker 7 And not only is he the guy.

Speaker 7 He's the goddamn motherfucking guy, bitch.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Okay.

Speaker 7 Is that good enough for you, Max?

Speaker 1 It's good enough for me.

Speaker 7 Listen, hey, you know what? You know what you've done? Thank you, Max. Thank you for doing this because now I have realized that this season is a massive dub for me.

Speaker 1 Because you're finding

Speaker 1 a quarterback.

Speaker 7 I have the quarterback.

Speaker 7 I had no illusion of making the playoffs. Maybe Supi crept into my brain at one point.
But going into the season, I did not think we were going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 7 I did not have any expectation for it. We just got a new owner who rocks.
Our old owner is off somewhere, probably like, I don't know, drowning in the Mediterranean.

Speaker 7 And we have a quarterback, a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 1 I am happy with that.

Speaker 7 I'm very, very happy. I'm so happy.
Yeah. This has been, I basically won the Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 1 It's definitely when you found your guy, like talking yourself into it for like three minutes like this, that definitely happened. Yeah.

Speaker 7 He's the guy.

Speaker 2 And also bringing up hypothetical trade situations where you trade for a bad quarter.

Speaker 1 And a bad person.

Speaker 7 That was mostly.

Speaker 1 A double whammy.

Speaker 7 That's what I'm saying. Like, that's how soured I think the Browns are on this whole situation to the point where they would even entertain doing that if they meant to get Jacoby Brissett back.

Speaker 7 I don't know. Maybe Browns fans would think that that would be insane, but they do want Jacoby Brissette back.
That was more about that side of the equation, not about my side.

Speaker 7 Because I do not want Joshua. I didn't see it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It seemed exactly like that.

Speaker 7 Okay, it is.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 7 If the Commanders trade for Deshaun Watson, I won't watch another Commanders game while he's a quarterback. How about that?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 How about that? That's huge. Don't want him.
I want to take a stand. Don't want him.

Speaker 7 Many people in the media are talking about the Commanders potentially trading for Deshaun Watson. I'm just going to say I don't want him.

Speaker 1 You don't want him. You don't want him.
Okay. Next game.
Oh, the tush-push failed. That was awesome.
Fumble.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, that's a failure. That's a failure.
A fumble is a failure.

Speaker 2 A fumble is a failure.

Speaker 1 I think that actually was smart by the Eagles. Like, you know, you got to fail a couple times.
That way, the Steven Chase of the world can stop crying about this play working all the time.

Speaker 2 And then the fake Tush Bush was also sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 1 not the worst idea if the Eagles threw in a couple fuck-ups here and there. A couple wrinkles to the skin.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I still, I like the play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do too. It's a good play.

Speaker 7 And you've seen teams start to copy it, and it's just, it's not the same. It's truly football.

Speaker 1 Okay, next one. Jaguars, 20 steelers 10.

Speaker 1 the jacksonville jaguars have won five games in a row in a wet sloppy game where kenny pickett goes out with an injury mitch risky comes in didn't play great uh did the bears just get get the football they're down 17.

Speaker 1 maybe they did uh

Speaker 1 my big takeaway from this game is that the steelers have a recipe with this steelers team on how to win games and it's to make it ugly play defense and then have this heroic fourth quarter, like couple balls bounce your way, and all of a sudden you're winning the game.

Speaker 1 When the recipe works like three quarters of the way and then it fails in the fourth because, you know, Kenny got hurt,

Speaker 1 they just look like a bad football team. Yeah.
Because you watch the whole game saying, oh, it's only a seven-point game. Ooh, Steelers are in this game.

Speaker 1 And then when it doesn't happen, you're like, oh, so you guys were just never planning on scoring?

Speaker 7 Yeah, the entire game, it was like the Steelers got him right where they want them. Right where they want them.
Right where they want. Oh, wait, shit, the game's over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then so without the actual like ending that that the Steelers have been become accustomed to it's like oh wait, they actually kind of stink well It wasn't really the Steelers that lost the game according to Deontay Johnson.

Speaker 7 It was the referees actually did yes So he said I know that we don't blame losses on the refs, but

Speaker 7 They was calling some stupid stuff. They should get fined for calling bad making worse terrible calls and stuff like that.
That's how pissed I am. They cost us the game.
I don't care what nobody says.

Speaker 7 They cost us the game.

Speaker 7 So I actually agree with you.

Speaker 1 You said they must have got paid good today or something. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I don't disagree with Deontay Johnson that refs should be fined if they fuck up calls.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 7 And the fine should be public. Yes.

Speaker 1 And it should be a public town square throwing tomatoes at their face.

Speaker 7 Or, yeah, they could do that that way, or they could get on a big duck boat and go through Pittsburgh and just throw a bunch of like, throw their cash out in ones to any Steelers fan that wants to pick it up.

Speaker 1 The Jaguars are just a a good football team. So five in a row.
And yeah, I think they are a very good football team.

Speaker 1 Hashtag Pete Prisco was right.

Speaker 1 They're playing great football. They do get the Niners off of buy next.
So that will be a good test for them.

Speaker 1 But, like, even in a wet, sloppy game, Trevor Lawrence didn't have his best game.

Speaker 1 You know what? Urban Meyer, smart. Travis Etienne, he drafted him in the first round.
Everyone's like, you don't draft running back.

Speaker 1 That guy fucking is good at football. Yeah, he is.
He won them that game.

Speaker 7 There was that one catch that he had, though, where he just decelerated as he was trying to sprint to the end zone. I've never seen a player get slower, faster than Travis Etienne did on that one.

Speaker 7 But yeah, he was like running through the secondary all afternoon.

Speaker 1 And the Jaguars' defense has been playing great ball. Like, yeah,

Speaker 1 I think it's now become because every time a team like the Jaguars, like the Jaguars or the Browns, if the Bears ever get good again, like there's certain franchises where if they get even the Lions right now, if they play good football, I think our natural belief is like, well, no, it's the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 They can't be good. No, no, they're good.
They're just a good football team. It's no longer, yeah, it's just the Jaguars.
They're a good football team.

Speaker 7 They are very good. I would say they're a very good football team.
Yeah. And Trevor Lawrence, he walked back his Terrible Towel comments, which I was a little bit disappointed to see.

Speaker 7 If you go into Pittsburgh and you beat them after insulting the Terrible Towel, you should then take that towel and do like what the Titans did, stomp on it,

Speaker 7 wipe your butt with it.

Speaker 1 The Jaguars did do that. Oh, they did? The Jaguars, after an interception, went and like, there was probably three guys went and stole towels out of fans.
I love that. Good, good.

Speaker 1 Which, that's a felony in Pittsburgh. Yeah.
Those guys who got their terrible towels taken, they are

Speaker 1 within bounds to like go hunt them down and like beat the fuck out of them.

Speaker 7 That's theft, technically, right?

Speaker 1 It's theft of the highest.

Speaker 7 Take another man's possession.

Speaker 1 It's grand theft

Speaker 1 larceny. It's grand theft towel.
It is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Remember our co-worker Jen Simons, who's a big Steelers fan, and she had a terrible towel, and she was like, I think we needed it for a skit once for advisors.

Speaker 1 And she was like, this has been passed down in my family through generations. Like, this terrible towel means a lot.
You can't take someone's terrible towel in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 7 But I love the fact that they did it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Like, I agree.

Speaker 7 It is theft of the highest order in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 It's like stealing a child. It's like stealing someone's child.

Speaker 7 But I love the fact that they're leaning into the rivalry with the towel because we haven't seen a man versus towel rivalry like this since the Titans did it back in the late 2000s where they stomped on it on the field.

Speaker 7 And then two years later,

Speaker 7 I think it was, who was it? It was some, maybe James Harrison suplexed Vince Young and said, like, that was for the towel. Yeah.
Later on. But I, I, you don't fuck with the towel.

Speaker 7 I like, I like the football player versus towel rivalry.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's, it is officially on.
And the Jaguars, I mean, the Jaguars have the Steelers' number. It does feel that way.
Yeah. It feels like every time they play.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 so the Steelers play Thursday night. We'll see if Kenny's okay.
They said they're going to monitor it. Rib injury.
I thought it was a shoulder. It was an old Drew Brees.
I thought it was a shoulder.

Speaker 1 It was actually a rib.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't really know what to make of the Steelers.

Speaker 1 I think they're just going to hang around all season, win a couple, you know, win a fair share of games, but I'll never feel fully confident until I see their offense put together a full game where they look good.

Speaker 1 And that even when Kenny was in today, it didn't look that way.

Speaker 7 I think I read that it's been something like 50 games, maybe more than 50 games since they've had 400 yards of offense. The Steelers.

Speaker 7 And what I think is going to happen with this team, it's not going to be a surprise. I think they'll end up, they'll win a bunch more ugly games.

Speaker 7 They'll go 9-8, and Mike Tomlin will still never have coached an under 500 team. Yeah.
And then everybody in Pittsburgh is going to be like, can we do something about mediocre Mike?

Speaker 7 And then everyone else is going to be like, he's never been under 500. Why would you fire a guy like that? And then we'll run it back next year.

Speaker 1 But they do have, I mean, they play the Titans and the Packers next. That could easily be two wins.
Oh, Tyson Bajant doing the lost Neil.

Speaker 7 That's the worst. Oh, the surrender kneel.

Speaker 1 The surrender kneel is always a bad look. I don't care.
You know, I know the game is over, but you can't surrender Neil.

Speaker 7 Go out on your sword.

Speaker 1 I hate the surrender kneel.

Speaker 8 So, PFT, to your point, this was the 54th straight game. The Steelers' offense failed to come close to 400 yards.
That goes back to the beginning of the 2020 season.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's been bad. It's been tough offensively for Pittsburgh.
And

Speaker 7 you kept waiting today for like a strip sack by TJ, an interception by TJ, a forced fumble by TJ. You waited for TJ's face.

Speaker 1 They even had that moment when Herbig got the punched the ball out and they got a fumble.

Speaker 1 They couldn't capitalize.

Speaker 7 You got to score. It was, again, it was a perfect.

Speaker 1 They were playing the Steelers' recipe, and then Kenny got hurt and the Steelers' recipe fell apart. Yeah,

Speaker 7 when your defense sees a ball, you have to pick the ball up and score for the Steelers to have a chance. And they do it a lot.

Speaker 1 At least get to the 10-yard line.

Speaker 7 Yeah, get you within an easy field goal range.

Speaker 1 Get you close enough that Najee Harris can get stuff for three consecutive one-yard gains and then kick a field goal.

Speaker 7 It'd be ideal if you got it to the two-yard line so that Najee Harris could have barely a two-yard gain on a swing pass and score a touchdown. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Jaguars for real. Steelers, who knows?

Speaker 1 Hopefully Kenny can play on Thursday. I would like to see Kenny play on Thursday.
I would too.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's take a quick break and then we'll get to some more games.

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Speaker 1 Okay, next game.

Speaker 1 Cowboys 43, Rams 20.

Speaker 1 I don't get many things right, so I have to take a little victory lap. When I do, the Rams stink.
I told everyone on Friday, the Rams stink.

Speaker 7 They were very bad today in every facet of the game.

Speaker 1 I was right on this.

Speaker 1 I was right on this one. The Rams are naughty.

Speaker 1 We got fooled by the Seahawks week one, and then they beat two bad teams in the Colts and the Cardinals. Colts, I'll say frisky.

Speaker 1 When the Cowboys get to play a bad team like the Rams, it was over. And it was over so fast.
It was 10-3 with 43 seconds left in the first quarter. And then three minutes later, it was 26-3.

Speaker 1 It was a pick six, a block punt safety, and a touchdown. And it was that.
That was it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and you had the pick six for Deron Bland. That was his third pick six of the season.
Third. The record is four.

Speaker 1 Four.

Speaker 7 So he's on pace to have six and a sixth pick sixes on the year, I believe. Correct.
If I did my math right. The Cowboys have beat the Jets, Patriots, and Rams.
So three bad teams.

Speaker 1 You know, the Cowboys kill those teams.

Speaker 7 They've beaten those three teams at home by a combined 111 to 33.

Speaker 1 And the Cowboys, credit to them.

Speaker 1 They stopped doing this like, we want to just only do complimentary football.

Speaker 1 They realize that they have CeeDee Lamb, and he's really fucking good, and Dak played really well, and they threw the ball deep. And that's what the Cowboys should be doing.

Speaker 1 Like, they saw that the Rams secondary sucks, and they're like, we're going to torch you. And it's exactly what they did.
CeeDee Lamb had 158 yards and two touchdowns. Dak was pretty much perfect.

Speaker 1 He had one interception, which was kind of a tip ball in the red zone. Like, if you're a Cowboys fan, that's the Cowboys you need.
That's that, what they did. Offense, defense, special teams.

Speaker 1 I almost called him Minka Fitzpatrick because he got hurt, the Steelers.

Speaker 1 Micah Parsons was all over the field. Like, that is the recipe.
That's the perfect Cowboys recipe. Now you got to do it against a good team.

Speaker 7 I'm looking forward to that game because we're either going to get really, really pissed off Cowboys fans or we're going to get really, really pissed off Max afterwards.

Speaker 7 So it's kind of a win-win for us. It's content no matter what.
Fun stat about the Cowboys. Did you know that teams that have beaten the Cowboys are 0-8

Speaker 7 after beating them? So I guess they'll be the Cardinals who stink and

Speaker 7 the 49ers who have just kind of hit a wall right now. So it's bad luck to beat the Cowboys.
Bad luck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, the 49ers are 0-3

Speaker 1 after they beat them.

Speaker 7 So, Max, you might not want to beat the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Because then you'll lose the next game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, the next game's a bye. Yeah, bye.
Oh, Oh, okay.

Speaker 7 Well, it's not just like the next one. You might lose to the bye.
You might lose every game for the rest of the game.

Speaker 1 This is a sample size of two.

Speaker 7 If this stat holds true, you would then lose every other game that you play.

Speaker 1 This is a sample size of two and really one because the Cardinals are bad.

Speaker 7 Well, it's a sample size of two, but also every game that they've played after beating the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Correct, correct. So 0-8 is the record.
Yeah, the Cardinals and Niners will never win again. Never win.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and the Eagles won't either if you guys win next week. So be very careful with the Cowboys game.
Bye. There was a great, great moment before the game.

Speaker 7 Demarcus Ware made it into the Cowboys Ring of Honor.

Speaker 7 Jerry Jones introduced him as Demarcus Lawrence going into the Ring of Honor, which is very relatable from Jerry Jones because I think everybody said when they got Demarcus Lawrence, like, that's too many Demarcuses on this team that played the same position.

Speaker 7 We can't keep track of all this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's tough for the big day. For the big day.
I don't know what the Rams do now. They're in very much.

Speaker 1 I think the Rams came into the season. They have Matthew Stafford.
They have an older roster, and they're like, hey, maybe we'll catch Lightning in a bottle. They win week one.

Speaker 1 Oh, maybe this will be Lightning in a bottle. I think they're going to end up obviously outside the playoffs and not a very good football team.
Now they have like a big transition that has to happen.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it'd be interesting to see if the Rams just became a like, we love picks. Right.
And they traded away everybody to get more draft picks after not ever having a draft pick.

Speaker 1 They might have to because, I mean, Matthew Stafford hurt his thumb.

Speaker 1 He hurt it twice, I think, but he did.

Speaker 1 He was good enough that

Speaker 1 they had a touchdown drive to start the second half, but then he came out of the game once it became a three-score game again. So I don't know what the Rams are a weird team.

Speaker 1 Like, I think they're bad, and I think maybe this is the moment that people are like, oh, maybe they are actually bad. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I don't think that they're bad bad. I think they're one of the best.
No, no, you're still falling for them. No, they're one of the best bad teams.

Speaker 1 No, I don't know if they're even that.

Speaker 7 I think they might be.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think they're even that.

Speaker 7 I think they're better than the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Well, no, the Cardinals are just terrible.

Speaker 7 Yeah, terrible.

Speaker 1 They're not like the bottom five teams in the NFL, but they're of the next group, they're bad.

Speaker 7 I think they might be top of that next five. They might be like the 10th worst team in football right now.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'd take probably everyone in the NFC.
I'd take the Falcons and the Saints and the Bucs maybe over them.

Speaker 7 Take the Bucs over the Rams.

Speaker 1 That'd be a good game. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Maybe. I'd like to see that.
Baker Revenge.

Speaker 1 The Broncos are better than the Rams, right?

Speaker 7 The Broncos might be

Speaker 7 rounding into form.

Speaker 1 I'll have to do a when the, when the power rankings come out on Tuesday, I'll have to give some real thought into where I actually put

Speaker 1 the Rams, but I don't think

Speaker 1 they're not a good team. And they were getting a little too much credit for that Seahawks win.
So now we're finally done with that. You know what that's going to be?

Speaker 1 It was six and a half. What? Gami.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got me. I'm over the score, Gammy.

Speaker 7 Gotta go, Jake.

Speaker 1 I'm over the score.

Speaker 7 I'm just happy when Jake's gone.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for you, Jake. I'm over the score, Gami.
Wow. It feels like it happens too much.

Speaker 8 This is the third time in the season in eight weeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's too many.

Speaker 7 Was it last year where it took a long time to get that?

Speaker 1 I like that Gammy. I like six or seven to get one.
Right, three in eight weeks is too much.

Speaker 8 Okay, well, the more that happens, you'll have less to deal with. I know.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for the day when it's gone.

Speaker 1 Could the Rams hypothetically trade Aaron Donald?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 That'd be weird.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be weird. I don't think they would, but because I think he would just retire.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he's threatened retirement every week.

Speaker 7 Every week he's like, I might not come back to work now.

Speaker 1 Jake,

Speaker 1 when, so three games so far this year? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Do you have a favorite Gami?

Speaker 7 No.

Speaker 7 Just all of them?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Is there a Gami you want to see?

Speaker 8 Another one in the Super Bowl. Last one we had was 43 to 8 Broncos and Seahawks.

Speaker 7 Can you walk us through?

Speaker 1 I guess it's because I don't really care because you can't win money off it. So it's like, who the fuck cares?

Speaker 7 Can you walk us through why you love score games so much? Because I love the fact that you love them.

Speaker 1 Because it's different. Yeah, I hate scoregamis.
I like that you like them. I hate scoregamis.

Speaker 8 That's fair. I just like rooting for things that people don't really care about Okay to stand out.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Yeah, I really enjoy it.

Speaker 8 You guys are all rooting for players and bets.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. I'm rooting for this.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 You should be able to bet on a score of me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess I just don't I think maybe it's because there's been too many this year. I liked it when it was when you had the first one, it felt like it hadn't happened in forever.

Speaker 1 Now, like, it feels like every Sunday you stand in front of the TV. You're like, gami.

Speaker 7 Also, sometimes it's just fun to see a good old-fashioned like 24-17 game. Yeah, and this year I recognize that.

Speaker 1 We get that all the time, though.

Speaker 7 I know, but it's nice being like, oh, I've seen that before. I know exactly how they got there.

Speaker 1 I also think, what were the other gamis this year?

Speaker 8 It was week one.

Speaker 1 Because 43-20 doesn't feel like a gamma to me. That's not cool.

Speaker 8 43 is hard to get in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Okay, but still, 20, come on. We see that all the time.
I need like a double weird score.

Speaker 7 We have

Speaker 8 Eagles Bucks. That was Monday Night Football.
25-11.

Speaker 1 That was cool. Sorry, this is the fourth.
Oh, see? Dolphins. Oh, see, you were hiding one from me.
I'm right. I'm right.
These things are.

Speaker 1 They have them every week. And then 25-9.
It's like the fucking,

Speaker 1 you basically are like the NHL, Outdoor Classic. No, no, no.
Yeah, no, no. You have them every week.
You're like, we'll do this every single week.

Speaker 1 You're the England game. You just do it every week.
We got moments.

Speaker 8 We're going to start one, and then we got back-to-back days.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 And then we have my birthday. It was my birthday present.

Speaker 1 Yeah, birthday gami was big. Yeah.
Too many gamis. This is the first one one since week three.

Speaker 1 48. Four in once in eight weeks is too many gamis.
Okay. They got to be more special.
They've, they've, they've ruined the gami by making him. All right, then I won't

Speaker 1 take the picture in front of you. Yeah, of course you are.
Yeah. And you should.
I'm not saying I, again, you liking them is not the problem. I don't like the gamis happen so often.
Okay.

Speaker 1 They got to slow down.

Speaker 8 But again, we can have a handshake deal and be like, the more they happen now, the less you'll have to deal with them later on.

Speaker 7 It's very true. It's like, might as well get rid of them.
What's the lowest possible thing?

Speaker 1 I'd like Gammies to go extinct.

Speaker 7 Is it like 3-1? 6'1. 6-1.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what I want. 6-1 would be awesome.
That would be my personal score of Gammis.

Speaker 7 Right. There are certain ones.
That's a scoregasm for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there are certain ones that would look cool. 43-20, that doesn't feel like it's a good thing.

Speaker 8 Also, we had an octopus today, Travis Etienne.

Speaker 8 What's an octopus again? You need to score a touchdown, and then you score the two-point conversion right after.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So, um, yeah, if there's no more Gamis this year and there's one in like week 17, I'll respect it.
Fair. This is just four out of eight.
Like, man, slow down. Slow down, Gamis.

Speaker 7 It's like the, yeah, like you said, the London games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. It's like, we can't do it every week.
We need to, they need to slow down.

Speaker 8 Good thing we got Germany next week.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Let's go.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm excited for that game. All right.
Speaking of,

Speaker 1 one of these teams playing it. Dolphins 31, Patriots 17.

Speaker 1 Hank? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Your thoughts on the football game?

Speaker 1 We are a football podcast talking about football.

Speaker 7 The Patriots are your favorite team.

Speaker 6 They are my favorite team. I am from Massachusetts.
They did play against the Dolphins today, and they lost.

Speaker 1 Facts only. Okay.

Speaker 1 And there's your recap of the Patriots game. You are Ron Rivera.

Speaker 6 If I do, you know, Big Hat turned me on to the draft projection machine.

Speaker 1 Hankathon, thon, it's the best.

Speaker 1 He's actually updated now that the Bears lost.

Speaker 6 Lucky enough to be, I hope this doesn't mess up what I'm about to say, but we were lucky enough to be on the sidelines at Wisconsin last night. Very cool experience.

Speaker 6 Got to see it up close and personal. Got to see Marvin Harrison Jr.
Very fast lighted up. Maserati.
Maserati Marv. I looked on after the game.

Speaker 6 Patriots have projected fourth pick, and they would take Maserati Marv.

Speaker 7 Get Mac Jones a weapon. And then I instantly got excited.

Speaker 1 So you don't have the fourth pick anymore. What the fuck? So right now it's Arizona, Carolina, which is the Bears, the Bears, Giants, Patriots.
So you have the fifth pick now.

Speaker 1 That's sucked. And I'm going down to

Speaker 1 Brock Powers.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's pretty good.
Baby Gronk. Yeah, baby Gronk.
The Bears have Drake May and Marvin Harrison Jr.

Speaker 7 That's a pretty good combo.

Speaker 1 Drake May can't be Georgia Tech.

Speaker 7 That's like a, that's true. It's a reset on your entire franchise, though, if you you get Drake May and Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 1 Marvin Harrison Jr. is so fucking good.
So good. So good.
So good. Like watching him in person, it was insane.
He's so much better. He sticks out compared to everyone on the field.

Speaker 6 Which is hard to do as a wide receiver, I think.

Speaker 1 Right, yeah. Right.

Speaker 6 Compared to some other positions. As for this game,

Speaker 6 Mac Jones didn't play terrible, had one really, really bad throw. The interception.

Speaker 1 Really bad.

Speaker 6 Play calling was, you know, left a lot to be desired.

Speaker 6 The Dolphins' offense is prolific. I will give the Dolphins credit.
They are just constantly in motion.

Speaker 6 It seems very tough to stop. I thought the past defense did a good job.
They were confusing them. They were getting stops, a lot of third downs.

Speaker 6 But the Dolphins just have so much motion, so much speed.

Speaker 6 They're hard to stop.

Speaker 6 I think the Dolphins are the Super Bowl favorites.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 7 I said that a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 1 They have to beat a real team, though. They did.
Oh, they were Patriots? Yeah. This Chiefs game will be the test.

Speaker 1 All right, so last week we talked about the Dolphins.

Speaker 6 At this point, you could do the this team beat this team, this team beat this team.

Speaker 7 Okay, but right, but let's do it just real quick here for the Patriots. So the Patriots lost to the Broncos.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins hung 70 on it.

Speaker 7 What place are the Patriots in in the AFC?

Speaker 6 Dead last. I have an insult stat that I'm guessing you're going to read.
But no, no, no, but Hank.

Speaker 1 Real quick, again, this is the Dolphins are not frauds. They are on fraud watch.
The teams they have beaten are the Chargers, the Patriots twice, the Broncos, the Giants, and the Panthers.

Speaker 1 They have to win a game. They have to win a game against...
This Chiefs game will be a huge test for them. I will say, in favor of the Dolphins, Jalen Ramsey coming back.

Speaker 1 He was the one who had the big pick on Mac Jones.

Speaker 1 That is a huge, huge thing for their defense that should give them a little toughness and get them out of that fraud watch.

Speaker 7 Because you think that teams will have to throw the ball well to beat the Dolphins. Right.

Speaker 7 If you have a cornerback that's out there that's like taking away a quarter or a half the field, like Jalen is that good where when he's playing at his best, you have to account for him at every single moment, every single snap.

Speaker 7 So I do think that it does make the Dolphins less potentially fraudulent than they are.

Speaker 1 And the best way to get out of the fraud watch is to play good defense.

Speaker 1 Because that's usually the sign of a fraud watch team is your offense is really good, but your defense is not sustainable.

Speaker 7 And you can just say, oh, it's a track meet. Right.

Speaker 1 They're doing a track meet off that. It's like, oh,

Speaker 1 when they play against a good defense and slows the game down, it's going to look different.

Speaker 7 Also, when your owner is doing the waddle and then making out with his hot young girl,

Speaker 1 that's a very

Speaker 1 generous use of makeout.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it was not a make-out.

Speaker 1 It was a kiss.

Speaker 1 And I think it was his old wife. Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Whatever. She looked hot and young to me.

Speaker 1 It was very much an old person. We've been married for a really long time.

Speaker 1 Let's have our lips touched for the least amount of time.

Speaker 7 It was just fun seeing an owner kissing. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 Dolphins have the fifth best odds to win the Super Bowl. What was that?

Speaker 6 That was Mike Tyson.

Speaker 6 Do you want to hear the sad stat? I'm surprised you don't have this.

Speaker 1 Well, no, go ahead.

Speaker 7 Is it the

Speaker 1 Albert Breer?

Speaker 9 Yeah, Albert Breer.

Speaker 1 You've never beaten Tua?

Speaker 7 Never beaten Tua. 6-0.

Speaker 1 6-0.

Speaker 6 Mike McDaniels was iced out in the sideline. I got to find out.
Can we find out how much the watch was?

Speaker 1 Yeah, wait, was that the sad stat that you never beat Tua? No.

Speaker 7 No, his sad stat is that 15 of the 16 AFC teams will be within three games of each other in the standings. The one outlier at the bottom, the New England Patriots.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 8 So the six wins over Tua is the most by any quarterback over Belichick in 29 years as a head coach.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 11 They're nugget.

Speaker 7 Kind of owns Belichick.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 8 He owns him.

Speaker 1 Because you were feeling like

Speaker 1 this game was... I mean, the first half, the Patriots were playing him tough.

Speaker 1 They played decent.

Speaker 6 I don't know.

Speaker 1 It is what it is. It is what it is.

Speaker 1 They fucking suck.

Speaker 6 They're not going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 6 I'm not going to get excited about this team anymore. I'm going to root for, you know, at this point, the smart analytical decision is to get a really good draft pick.

Speaker 1 Winning games

Speaker 7 accomplishes nothing.

Speaker 1 I'll teach you how to do that. I taught you about tank-a-thon.

Speaker 1 Every single week is the same thing. You've got to be like, ah, it'd probably be better if we we lost.
When the game kicks off,

Speaker 1 your instincts will take over and you'll be like, I want to win this game. And then when your bad team starts playing bad because they are bad, you're like, oh, this is actually good.

Speaker 1 Literally what I just did Sunday night football. Sat down, was like, Tyson Bagent, let's go.
First pass. Darnell Mooney.
Yes, this is going to be awesome. We're going to shock the world.

Speaker 1 We're going to win outright. And then it all went down from there.
And I was like, you know what? That's better. So

Speaker 1 it's not a bad. It's actually not a bad way to root for a team.
Because if you do win, you're like happy. And if you lose, you're also happy.

Speaker 6 Yeah. And the NBA season started, the Celtics are actually.

Speaker 1 Oh, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Football.
We're talking football. Well, I'll give Hank this.

Speaker 8 The Celtics beat the Heat this weekend.

Speaker 1 Oh, fucking right. That's huge.

Speaker 6 Game two. Yep.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it is what it is.

Speaker 6 They played okay, not good enough to win. And the Dolphins look really good.

Speaker 1 Tyree Hill and Jalen Wall had 233 yards combined, two touchdowns.

Speaker 6 They just do so much motion, it feels like cheating.

Speaker 1 They're so fast and so good.

Speaker 6 Every play is.

Speaker 1 I also feel like Tyreek Hill doesn't get enough credit for his ball catching ability in traffic because he's so fast.

Speaker 1 That catch he made was maybe in the fourth quarter when he was jumping up and there was like two defenders on him. And it was a pretty incredible catch to get the first down.

Speaker 1 Like because he's so good at the fast stuff, we don't give him enough credit for just being incredible even when he has to make the tough catches.

Speaker 7 He's got great hands. Yeah.
He's got great hands, good instincts. He's just a great football player.
And when him and Wildlife are cooking together, you can't really...

Speaker 7 I don't think that there's a defense that exists that's able to guard those guys. Your best hope is to, like, you know,

Speaker 7 weather or get to the quarterback. Yeah.
And if you can't do that, if you can't put pressure on Tua, then you're kind of fucked.

Speaker 1 And Tua was looking cool, backwards hat. I fucking love Tua.

Speaker 8 Besides the first quarter interception.

The Dolphins are 12-5 in the throwbacks, too. Great uniforms.

Speaker 1 Those Those Johnson are clean.

Speaker 7 Love the throwback uniforms.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for next week. Like, if they beat the Chiefs, then everything to me is different, where I'm like, yes, 100% the Dolphins are a Super Bowl contending team.

Speaker 1 Right now, I have them as a very good playoff team, but you'll get into a game where defense will step up and it will look different.

Speaker 7 So we do believe in time zones, and we believe that the coach that defeats time zones the best has a big upper hand in the European games. McDaniel is taking the guys to Germany tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Oh, so they're going out there.

Speaker 7 The Chiefs are going out there. They're only getting one full practice in on Friday.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 And Mahomes does go. Dolphins' first half.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Mahomes might not be allowed to go because he's got

Speaker 1 the big C.

Speaker 7 As Hank mentioned earlier, I just made that up that he wouldn't be allowed to go by.

Speaker 8 The Chiefs losing to the Broncos, I think, is bad for the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 Of course. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 8 But heads up.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Hank, season's over. Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, kind of nice.

Speaker 1 Right? Little free. Yeah, we beat the Bills.

Speaker 6 I didn't even watch it.

Speaker 1 Little freeing? Yeah, you've only seen one Patriots win, and it was against the Jets. You would like to beat the Jets, though, again.
Yeah. Because

Speaker 1 you have to keep that going. Yeah.
Especially if the Jets keep winning.

Speaker 6 Get close, yeah. Yeah.
They're fighting.

Speaker 1 Spoiler. That would be your one main spoiler that you would want, right?

Speaker 6 And the Bills.

Speaker 7 Who would you rather spoil?

Speaker 1 At this point in the season?

Speaker 6 Well, the Bills, I believe we play at the end of the season.

Speaker 1 The Jets is last week of the season. Oh.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So probably Jets, especially if Rodgers is playing.

Speaker 1 Bills is week 17. Jets is week 18.

Speaker 1 And next week, you wouldn't want to win that game?

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 Tank was on. Yeah, no, I don't know.

Speaker 1 The answer is no.

Speaker 7 Well, okay, preview of next week's game.

Speaker 7 Would you still rather have Mac Jones than Sam Howell?

Speaker 6 Sam Howell looked unbelievable. I mean, it's all coaching.
I feel like they're probably similar

Speaker 6 caliber quarterbacks. But Sam Howell, the first half against the Eagles, was throwing passes.

Speaker 1 Bill Belichick is.

Speaker 7 He's saying that Ron Rivera is a better coach than Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 We're following the logic here. Wait, what?

Speaker 1 It's all coaching, but Ron Rivera is a bad coach. Bill Belichick's good coach.

Speaker 6 Ron Rivera has gotten teams to Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 A team. Cam Newton.
A Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Cam Newton to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It's all coaching.

Speaker 6 It's not all coaching. I'm saying they're probably similar.

Speaker 6 No, no, no, no, no. You guys are just trying to play gotcha.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I'm literally asking for a clarification. That feels like that was a

Speaker 1 Freudian slip where you're like, Belichick sucks at coaching right now.

Speaker 1 No, it was not.

Speaker 1 That's exactly what that thought. That's all that was.
That's exactly what that was.

Speaker 7 You didn't realize it until after you said that. But you just admitted that Bill Belichick is not a good head coach right now.

Speaker 6 I did not. I never said that.

Speaker 1 You did.

Speaker 6 I would, I guess, take Mac Jones. I really like, maybe, maybe just, you know, mix it up.
Take Sam Howell, see what happens.

Speaker 1 Put him with a good coach, Mac Jones. No, but Sam Howell with a good coach.

Speaker 6 Oh. Like, Sam Howell's bad.

Speaker 7 But you just said he was the best quarterback.

Speaker 6 I mean, Sam Howell is good, but he has bad coaching.

Speaker 1 So if he is Mac Jones, exactly what you meant. Mac Jones is good.

Speaker 1 He has good coaching.

Speaker 6 No, Mac Jones is bad.

Speaker 1 He has good coaching.

Speaker 1 But it's all coaching.

Speaker 7 But you're also saying that right now.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. So, like, Sam Howell has good coaching.

Speaker 6 Imagine how good he's going to be.

Speaker 7 So, you think that Sam Howell is great, like the best quarterback in the NFL with the worst coach?

Speaker 1 I don't, I never said he's the worst coach. But if it's all coaching, if

Speaker 1 Belichick's a good coach, you should make the quarterback good.

Speaker 6 You can, yeah, he's making him really good compared to his skill level. Got it.

Speaker 1 Oh, Mac Jones. Mac Jones is actually worse than we're seeing.
Got it. Yeah.
Okay. That makes sense.
You didn't make a mistake.

Speaker 6 Nope.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. All right.
Next up: Titans, Falcons, Falcons, Titans, 28, Falcons, 23. Our guy, Will Levis, four touchdowns,

Speaker 1 was awesome. Pressured all day.
Falcons' defense is good. I am happy for Will Levis.
He had that moment after we went and found his family. The guy got shit on at the draft.

Speaker 1 He got shit on by Titans fans before he was able to start a game. I'm very, very happy for Will Levis because he went out and he fucking balled his ass off.

Speaker 7 So he has twice as many touchdowns this season as Ryan Tannehill does.

Speaker 1 Wow. Isn't that crazy? And also he remembered that DeAndre Hopkins is good.

Speaker 7 He remembered DeAndre Hopkins is on our team. It's weird, especially if you're like a Houston Texans fan, seeing DeAndre Hopkins playing for another team wearing Houston Oilers uniforms.

Speaker 7 That's got to be strange.

Speaker 1 They're great uniforms, okay?

Speaker 7 I'm just strictly talking about the uniforms here. Maybe my favorite uniform in the NFL.
One of them.

Speaker 7 Tennessee Titans should not be allowed to play.

Speaker 1 It's bullshit. It's bullshit.

Speaker 7 They gave up the rights to that. Correct.
When the team moved and they decided to rebrand, they're like, you know what? Oilers doesn't make sense in Tennessee.

Speaker 7 We're going to be the Titans for some reason. Right.
I don't know why.

Speaker 7 And then they just get to go back and use another city's uniform.

Speaker 1 Didn't the Carolina Hurricanes wear

Speaker 1 the Hartford Whalers uniforms once? It's bullshit.

Speaker 7 Hartford's mad about that.

Speaker 1 You can't do that. You took the team from a city.
You are the Titans now. The Texans should get to wear the Oilers throwbacks.
That's how it should work.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the franchise, I understand, can move around. It sucks, but it can.
But the colors stay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's as simple as that.

Speaker 7 And it's going to be very weird

Speaker 7 when the Oilers play against the Texans because they are going to wear their throwbacks with that.

Speaker 1 That's fucked up. But yeah, Will Levis, awesome moment.

Speaker 1 Awesome first game. He is the second player since 1970 with four touchdowns in his first game.
Who's the other player?

Speaker 1 This is not good for the Titans.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait.

Speaker 7 I think I know. Is it

Speaker 7 Matt Flynn?

Speaker 1 No, it's Marcus Mariota. Oh, okay.
So the Titans have this in their bag.

Speaker 1 Also, you want a little trivia? This one is a little bit tougher.

Speaker 1 DeAndre Hopkins tied the record for most touchdowns, first touchdowns caught by a quarterback. So he's caught the first touchdown from four different quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 Can you name them? Kyler Murray.

Speaker 7 No. Oh, well, I'm off to a bad start.
Will Levis is one. Will Levis,

Speaker 7 Houston Texans quarterback. I'm going to go with Yates of Hell.

Speaker 8 TJ Yates.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Deshaun Watson. Not Bristol.
Deshaun Watson is one of them. Schaub?

Speaker 7 No. Oh,

Speaker 1 Matt Schaub. Davis Mills.
Matt Schaub was DeAndre Hopkins' first touchdown. But not Shaub.

Speaker 7 Yes. Davis Mills? No.

Speaker 1 It was Case Keenum, Tom Savage, Deshaun Watson, and Will Levis. Wow.
I went down a rabbit hole, and I was like, I was trying to figure out who it was. I saw the stat, but they didn't say who it was.

Speaker 1 And then I was like, so I looked up all the Texans' quarterbacks and went back and tried to figure it out. And guess who, Ryan Mallett, R.I.P.
Who his first touchdown pass was to?

Speaker 7 Andre Johnson.

Speaker 1 J.J. Watt.
Oh, crazy. Pretty cool.
That is wild.

Speaker 1 That's just some crazy, wild trivia right there. It's wild ball.
So four

Speaker 1 times he's caught the first touchdown pass from a quarterback.

Speaker 7 That's cool. And it was great to see Will Levis not only throwing those touchdowns, but they were like sick bombs, too.
They weren't gimme touchdowns. He was balling out today.
It was great.

Speaker 7 They went with the two-headed monster of Willis and Will Levis for like one series each, I think.

Speaker 1 And Willis got booed. And Will Levis, to his credit afterwards, is like, that's not right, which I liked.
He's a leader. But yeah,

Speaker 1 it was great seeing Will Levis in that offense and being like, oh, they can actually stretch the field.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They have vertical threats.

Speaker 7 It is weird seeing the Titans do that to somebody. And if you're a Tennessee Tennessee fan, this is probably like a good...

Speaker 7 You officially switched over today from hating Will Levis from being a Kentucky quarterback to loving him now that he's your Tennessee quarterback. And

Speaker 1 the Titans are in a weird, weird spot. They just traded Kevin Bayard.

Speaker 1 There's talk about Derrick Henry. They're in this weird transition.
There's nothing better if you're in a transitional period with a franchise to have a guy you can get excited about.

Speaker 1 Will Levis is that guy. I agree.
Yeah. Good point, big cat.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Will Will Levis played good enough to the point where you're like, I have somebody to root for for the rest of the year. Apparently, they told Derrick Henry that they're not trading him, though.

Speaker 7 Oh, now, Max heard something different on twitter.com or x.com.

Speaker 1 Well, Max heard something different in his brain, yeah, where he's like Derrick Henry, eagle.

Speaker 7 But they apparently told him you're going to stick around.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's good. As for the Falcons,

Speaker 1 we finally got the switch.

Speaker 7 So, Arthur

Speaker 1 Smith switched to Taylor Heineke. Now, he said that it's not the actual switch, that Desmond Ritter is going to be the quarterback next week.

Speaker 1 They're also, Ritter was checked out for a concussion, passed the concussion test, which makes me feel like maybe Arthur Smith was just waiting for a moment where it's like he's out for a play.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, that's convenient. It's Taylor Heineke.

Speaker 7 It's either that or he was playing so poorly that Arthur Smith was like, this guy's got to have a concussion. Let's check out this.

Speaker 7 Which is not good if you don't have a concussion for a coach to think that.

Speaker 1 Right. To pass the concussion test when everyone's like, dude, you must be concussed.

Speaker 7 Yeah. And he's like, no, there's something there.
You learned how to fudge that test.

Speaker 1 And Taylor threw you. Taylor Heineke almost won them a game.
If Van Jefferson didn't drop that ball on fourth and one in the red zone, the Falcons could have easily won this game.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was a great pass. It was an easy pass that should have been caught.
But Heineke led them to, I think he got all their points.

Speaker 7 Oh, no, they got a field goal in the first quarter, but then Heineke came in and played pretty well. Like, this is Taylor Heineke's fun.
He's a good quarterback. Give us Taylor Heineke.

Speaker 7 Give us Taylor Heineke. We got more Bijan today.
We got 11 carries for Bijan. He still should get like Algier got 8, 31 yards, averaged 3.9 a carry.

Speaker 7 Bijan got 11, averaged 5.6 yards of carry because he's about twice as good. I love it, though.
And a touchdown. I love it.
And Arthur Seville continues to just kick sand in all the nerds' faces.

Speaker 7 Keep doing it, Arthur.

Speaker 1 Keep trolling everyone. I can't get enough of it.

Speaker 1 This felt like, though, I mean, we'll talk about the NFC South

Speaker 1 when we get to the Saints in a second, but it felt like a game that the Falcons might look back and be like, damn, we should have won that game.

Speaker 1 Especially, you didn't know Will Levis was going to play as good as he did, but against a rookie quarterback, first start,

Speaker 1 and you had the chance to win the game at the end, this could be one of those games that they're like, well, that was why we didn't make the playoffs.

Speaker 7 Yeah. And it's always nice for a rookie quarterback to have Derrick Henry to hand the ball to.
Yeah. Like, he's just going to carry it 22 times.
That's 22 times that I won't have to drop back. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Let's just let him cook for a second.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for Will Levis. 17% accuracy.
He improved.

Speaker 7 He told everyone.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. When he was joking, but he told everyone.

Speaker 7 And he's single. And he's single.

Speaker 7 What a great time to have a great game.

Speaker 1 He's probably at the Barstool Bar right now.

Speaker 1 And he deserves it. Yep.
He deserves a night off.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 Can we just say Will Levis drinks for free at the Barstool Bar? Yeah. If they win.
Whenever they win. Whenever they win.

Speaker 1 Whenever he throws a touchdown pass. Okay.
One touchdown pass, drinks for free. That feels right.

Speaker 1 And Titans stop doing that uniform. We should protest.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but they're sick uniforms.

Speaker 1 I know, but the Texans should wear them.

Speaker 7 But at what cost, Hank? You have to stand for something or you fall for anything. The Texans should wear them, man.
Thomas Jefferson said that.

Speaker 1 Hank, the Texans should wear them.

Speaker 1 It's Houston's team.

Speaker 6 But would you rather not see him at all or see them?

Speaker 7 I'd rather watch Earl Campbell highlights where he's wearing the uniform.

Speaker 1 I guess I'd probably, if you put it that way, Hank, I'd probably rather see him. Because isn't that what happened, Max, with the Kelly Greens? Like, someone owned them.

Speaker 1 Like, the previous owner owned the color palette or something?

Speaker 2 I think it was just the helmets because

Speaker 1 they couldn't do the shelf.

Speaker 2 This was the first year that they could do the Kelly Green helmets, and it looked bad with the other helmets.

Speaker 1 Oh, that makes sense, actually. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are sick. All right, fine, Hank.

Speaker 7 I'll take them however I get them. You know what? Whoever wins between Tennessee and Houston, they get the uniform.

Speaker 1 That's what it really should be. How about that? That would be a great.
That should be the Monday night game, everything at stake.

Speaker 7 And both teams teams wear the Oilers outfits for that. Just one wears blue, one wears white.

Speaker 1 No, they both wear the Oilers uniforms, but it says, like, one says Titans, one says Texans. Yeah, that's the thing is,

Speaker 1 I might even take it if the Titans. It's just the fact that it says Oilers.

Speaker 1 I think all their gear said Oilers today.

Speaker 7 I think, let's see, I'm looking at it right now. I don't know if it said Oilers on there.

Speaker 1 I thought I saw some guys on the sidelines wearing stuff that said Oilers. I don't like that.
That bothers me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And maybe we're just being pussies about it. I don't know.

Speaker 7 No, I mean, I think that Houston has a fair gripe when it comes to that. The Oilers played in Houston.
Yeah. That's a fact.
That is a fact. The Oilers are not, they're not a Tennessee team.

Speaker 1 That is a fact. Yeah, no, it says Oilers on his helmet.
Oh, on the helmet? Yeah.

Speaker 7 That's what I'm saying. Oh, on the front of it.

So it said it everywhere. Damn.
Okay.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 Saints 38, Colts 27.

Speaker 1 The Saints offense is back. Look at that.

Speaker 7 It was huge.

Speaker 7 This is massive, massive for the Saints.

Speaker 1 It was everything. It was Alvin Kamara looking awesome, 110 yards total, two touchdowns.
It was Taysom Hill doing Taysom Hill, where

Speaker 1 he had like a 40-yard pass, a 14-yard catch, and then 60-plus yards running with a couple touchdowns. And then the real surprise was my guy Rashid Shaheed catching some bombs from Derek Carr.

Speaker 7 He had, what, like 155 yards.

Speaker 7 Three catches? Three catches.

Speaker 1 And a touchdown. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Three catches for 155 yards is insane. I think it's his number that makes him look not as fast.
It's his name too.

Speaker 1 His name is so awesome. I just want to say it.

Speaker 7 His name is great, but his number, you see that and you think

Speaker 7 is this is this like a mid-speed running back? No, no. He is fucking fast as hell.

Speaker 1 And I'll say this very clear. If the Saints want to play like this, I'm in.
I'm in. Like, that's the thing is the Saints, it's nothing personal.

Speaker 1 The Saints have just played such a mind-numbingly annoying style of football where it's pass, pass, pass to the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 If they want to air it out because they have some really good players, I'm all the way in.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and this was the formula for the Saints. They're 17 and one when Taysom Hill has at least seven carries in a game.
Yeah. That's a great stat.
I love it. Feed Taysom, give him the rock.

Speaker 7 Let him do everything with it. Let Taysom Hill just like, just jump around whatever position groups he feels like being in on whatever particular drive.
They had 500 yards of offense today.

Speaker 7 They were fun. The Saints were fun again.
They were fun again. And it's good seeing the Saints be fun again.

Speaker 1 Should we put a future on the Saints to win the NFC South?

Speaker 7 You could say that about almost any team in that division.

Speaker 1 Well, they play the Bears and the Vikings the next two weeks. Yeah.
The Vikings without Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 7 What does the coin have, Matt? Because the coin's now 8-0. Okay.
So let me consult the coin.

Speaker 1 Here's their non-conference,

Speaker 1 non-division games left. I'm going to read them to you.
I think we might have to take the Saints to win the division.

Speaker 1 Their non-division games left are Bears, Vikings,

Speaker 1 Falcons, Hank. Shane's trying to get your attention.

Speaker 1 Bears, Vikings,

Speaker 1 Lions, Giants, Rams.

Speaker 1 That's 4-1.

Speaker 7 In theory, yeah.

Speaker 1 In theory, that's 4-1. The Lions would be the only one that I would see them not winning.

Speaker 7 Okay, so the coin has them going 11-6. So that sounds like it would win that division.

Speaker 1 Let's take a look. Let's take a look.
Are we just being complete knee-jerk reaction losers because the Saints looked good on offense once and were like, holy shit, watch out for the Saints.

Speaker 1 Is that what's happening right now?

Speaker 7 It might be.

Speaker 1 There's a plus 125 to win the division. Hmm.
Hmm. Okay, we can think about it.
We can think about it. We can think about it.
As for the Colts,

Speaker 1 I don't know. Their friskiness is starting to

Speaker 1 wane a little bit.

Speaker 7 They're fun to watch. They are.

Speaker 1 They scored 20 points again.

Speaker 7 And they always play in entertaining games. Minshu was doing his thing back there.
It looked like he got really injured in the first half.

Speaker 1 And I don't know what happened to Jonathan Taylor. They said he wasn't injured, but he had 11 carries for 95 yards in the first half, and then he got one carry in the second half.

Speaker 7 They fall behind.

Speaker 1 So that's either, well, but it was still kind of a game for a while there. It was 21-20 for a while in the third quarter.
I don't, he must be injured.

Speaker 1 Otherwise, it makes no sense to have a guy doing that and then be like, oh, yeah, we're just never going to give him the ball.

Speaker 7 So it would sound crazy to say that they would trade Jonathan Taylor after signing after signing him. Yeah, that is a little crazy.

Speaker 7 But that would be the behavior of a team team that's going to trade Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 Ooh, I like where your head's at. It would be, right? Yeah.
I like that theme. You're just like, you know what?

Speaker 7 We're going to give you Zach Moss.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 I hope it's not true. Because if you're a Colts fan, you want to have somebody to root for.

Speaker 7 Jonathan Taylor is the guy that you want to root for now that your quarterback's injured for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 And you want to stay in that frisky category. Yeah.
Where it's fun to watch the games. You don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 But I feel like it might be slipping.

Speaker 7 Kamara also showed a little burst today. Yeah.
He might have shown a little wiggle.

Speaker 1 That touchdown run where

Speaker 1 it looked like he was absolutely going to get tackled for a loss and he went, he like parted the Red Sea and scored a touchdown. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 7 It might have been a pass. He ran with some enthusiasm today.
Yeah. Like old school Kamara.

Speaker 1 I know. He took him a couple of games, but his legs are back in him.

Speaker 1 I think I'm selling myself on the Saints. This might be bad.

Speaker 7 This is going to lead you to rooting for Derek Carr in very, very clutched moments. I'm just warning you.
Theoretically, it sounds like a great plan. But are you going to want to root for Derek Carr?

Speaker 1 I think it's also my plans are based on if you play the Bears next, like it's a guaranteed win, so get the value now.

Speaker 7 It's hard to get a win in the NFL and if you have one in the bag, right?

Speaker 1 The price isn't worked in yet, but they do play the Bears next.

Speaker 1 So maybe that's not a bad strategy. Okay, so that was a fun game.
Very fun game. Let's talk about the Big Ten West performance of the day: the Jets and the Giants.
Jets 13, Giants 10 in overtime.

Speaker 1 This game had 24 punts, 23 points.

Speaker 1 This game had 15 punts in the first half alone, which was the most since 1991 when they started collecting data.

Speaker 1 This game had in the first half, both teams combined going for 0 for 18 from third down.

Speaker 1 And then this game had... The stat line of Tommy DeVito, 2 for 7, minus 1 yard.
Tommy DeVito. Tommy DeVito.
I lost so much money betting on Tommy DeVito when he was at Syracuse.

Speaker 7 The Giants had negative nine net passing yards. That's the fewest since 2000.
I think they had negative eight net passing yards

Speaker 7 before the start of overtime. And then Tommy DeVito threw for negative one passing yard

Speaker 7 in overtime. They were doing whatever they could to not allow him to throw the ball anywhere near where a cornerback might be at any point.
And

Speaker 7 it was a very interesting interesting gameplay. Now, obviously, Taylor got sent to the hospital.
Yeah, Taylor.

Speaker 7 He took maybe an internal injury that they're going to scope out. But Tommy DeVito, people forget he wears the chain with his initials on it.
It just says TD.

Speaker 7 He is a fantasy fuckboy.

Speaker 7 And they did not trust him to do anything. And there was a moment where...

Speaker 7 Daybox and Salah were both kind of looking at each other from opposite sidelines, both understanding the mess that they were both in at the time.

Speaker 7 But the difference is Dayball was like pissed off about not being able to.

Speaker 1 And he was wet.

Speaker 7 He was so wet. He was super wet.
He got so wet. Salah wasn't wet.
He was shiny. He was like glistening and he was like smiling like, this is such a fucked up game.

Speaker 7 I love it because he's learned to embrace the chaos that goes along with not having any offense. So he's like, if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with.

Speaker 7 So I'm just going to put it all like, we're going to see what we can do with Zach Williams.

Speaker 1 And Salah was like, oh, they have more fucked up quarterback situations than we do right now. Yeah, he was loving it.
He was incredible. He was loving it.

Speaker 1 And then you just had like a wet blueberry on the other side in Dable just like going up and down the sideline.

Speaker 1 I don't know what he was. It was some team-issued gear, but it was one of those raincoats that it wicked all the water, but it also held all the water on it.

Speaker 1 So he just, like, if he shook himself like a dog, he would make someone instantly drenched.

Speaker 7 He looked like a zit, kind of, because he was starting to turn like a little pink at the end.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He looked like the chick from

Speaker 1 Willy Wonka. Yeah.
Viola.

Speaker 1 Beaugard. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
He was just.

Speaker 8 Viola Beauregard. Yeah.
He gets rolled out by the Oopa and Loopas.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was very, very angry. I don't know why the Giants have a quarterback on their roster who they who cannot throw the ball.

Speaker 1 That feels, I know, obviously, third quarterback, you don't expect your third quarterback to play. It's not going to be a great situation if he comes in.

Speaker 1 But they literally didn't want Tom, like, they were so scared of Tommy DeVito throwing the football. He threw everything within within two feet of his face.
And I don't know who we can protest to, but

Speaker 1 Saquon Barkley deserves FedEx ground player of the week because he had 128 yards in an offense that literally couldn't throw the football.

Speaker 1 Like, that was the most impressive performance in a loss that anyone's ever had.

Speaker 7 I guess you could say, why didn't Dayball give him the ball on that fourth and one when they kicked a field goal that missed?

Speaker 7 Graham Ganneau missed in the rain at the end, towards the end of regulation. Which was the perfect.

Speaker 1 This game fucking rocked. It was so stupid that it became fun.

Speaker 1 It was the perfect Zach Wilson

Speaker 1 entire story arc where fourth and 10,

Speaker 1 the game's about to be over. It's like a minute and a half left.
You have two timeouts. Fourth and 10 from your own 30.
You have to just throw the ball. You have to throw the ball and take a chance.

Speaker 1 He takes a 10-yard sack that puts the Giants directly in field goal range. The Giants can't throw the ball, so they run it three times, then they miss a field goal.

Speaker 1 and then Zach Wilson takes him down the field in two plays for the tying field goal to take him to overtime. It was everything Zach Wilson, like, how do you take that sack?

Speaker 1 And then how the fuck did Zach Wilson get him all the way down the field?

Speaker 7 And they spiked it with one second left on the clock. Yeah.
So we have a narc out there in the media. Uh-oh.
Our friend Boomer, Boomer Syson. Uh-oh.
He played for the Jets, right?

Speaker 7 He's a Jets quarterback.

Speaker 9 He was, yeah.

Speaker 7 He tweeted out that the center actually spots the ball before the spike, not the official. The spike play shouldn't have happened.
Game should have been over.

Speaker 7 And then he tagged the NFL and also NFL officiating in the tweet to nark him out. Because if you watch the replay at the very end of the game, Zach Wilson throws the ball across the middle field.

Speaker 7 It's caught. They have a first down.
They have to get up there and spike it to attempt the field goal. The center runs up to the ball and the center puts the ball down.

Speaker 7 The referee sprints in and just tap ever so slightly taps the ball and runs away. Apparently, the referee has to pick the ball up and put it down to spot the ball, but he just let the center do it.

Speaker 7 And if the referee had gone over there, picked the ball up and spotted it correctly. That's what the Cowboys messed up in that playoff game where they ran that weird play with like 13 seconds left.

Speaker 7 You remember that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, against the Niners, right?

Speaker 7 So that's what they fucked up because you have to wait for the official to do it. Apparently, the center just took matters into his own hands and said, I'm going to spot the ball.

Speaker 7 I dare you to stop me. Do something about it.
And they got it off, spiked it with one second left.

Speaker 1 So I'm actually going to take the opposite side because our guy, Jeff Schwartz, who played offensive line in the NFL, he wasn't one of those pretty boys like Boomer who got to play quarterback.

Speaker 1 He said

Speaker 1 the center did an awesome job checking the spot with the line judge before putting the ball down. So he basically did the judge's job for him.

Speaker 7 Is this cool? Yeah, he was like, is this cool?

Speaker 1 Then the ump touched the ball to spot it and they clocked it.

Speaker 7 I just disagree with Boomer turning his back on the Jets like this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that was,

Speaker 1 if Jeff Schwartz is right, that was a heads-up play by the center.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we can give the center credit. Yeah, I mean, the bottom line is they got away with it, so it worked.
So good job.

Speaker 1 And no one wants to see a game end where you can't spike it.

Speaker 7 No, I hate that.

Speaker 1 It's so worse.

Speaker 7 I hate that when the ref just stands over the ball and the precious seconds are ticking away, and you're just like, snap it, snap it.

Speaker 7 And you can't because this guy's here making the game all about himself.

Speaker 1 It's the most unfulfilled. I mean, it happened to me when I was at the Rose Bowl and Russell Wilson.
That literally happened where they didn't get the spike off.

Speaker 1 It's the most unfulfilling way for a game to end. It is.
To be like, no spike off.

Speaker 1 Memes. Memes walking with his chest puffed out.

Speaker 7 He feels sorry for us, big cat. He is.
He feels sorry for us. He is really feeling.

Speaker 1 I walked into this office,

Speaker 1 into this studio,

Speaker 1 sometime around the second games. Memes was sitting in my seat, feet up on the phone.
Nope. Like, big boss man taking phone calls.
He's feeling himself. I was in PFT seat.
I was on the phone.

Speaker 1 Feet were not up, but me and my dad were talking about the Jets game. I liked my version better.
So let's go with my version. All right.
You read him? I made up half of it.

Speaker 7 You were in my seat. Were you flirting in my seat?

Speaker 1 He had his feet up.

Speaker 7 Max says, yes, you were flirting.

Speaker 1 And he was PFT. This is what he looked like.
He was like, yeah,

Speaker 1 these other fucking franchises, they stink.

Speaker 7 They don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 The Jets were the best.

Speaker 1 No, my dad called me. He was like, that game fucking sucked.

Speaker 1 I was like, yeah, it was a great 24 seconds, though, at the end. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So some quick punting stats. Thomas Morstead had

Speaker 7 10 punts for 486 yards. Nice.
Three inside the 20. Jamie Gillen for the Giants had 11 punts for 470 yards.
And he put five down inside the 20. This was a great punting game.
Great punting game.

Speaker 1 Thomas Morstead had three inside the five. Yeah.
15th player to do it since 1970.

Speaker 7 Wow. Huge punting game for Morstead.
That's a good thing. That's a liar.
So, memes,

Speaker 7 you are feeling yourself a little bit because you got to see Aaron Rodgers throwing a pass, wearing a hoodie before the game, and you're thinking to yourself, this guy's coming back, playoffs, we get Aaron Rodgers back, and we're going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 Yes, but also

Speaker 1 24 seconds away from just this being the worst podcast of all time. Was that not personally? Was that not the most Zach Wilson thing to have that? Because that fourth and 10 was brutal.

Speaker 1 That was crazy.

Speaker 1 And it wasn't even, because I had some Jets fans being like, he has no time. He actually had time on that fourth and 10.
There's no reason to just not throw it. Like, what's the worst that happens?

Speaker 1 The interception? It's fourth and 10. Yeah, nobody was open, but you still got to launch it.
You still got to throw it. It didn't make any sense.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then to do that, to turn around and go down the field. Man.

Speaker 1 Zach Wilson, where you at?

Speaker 1 Where am I at with Zach Wilson? Yeah. I'm all in on him.
All in.

Speaker 1 He kind of reminds me of Jameis Winston. You never know what you're going to get with him.

Speaker 7 That's disrespectful to Jameis Winson. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 Do you think he would have played better today if he did an apple pick on the bye week?

Speaker 1 No, he would have played better if it didn't rain. I said it a couple weeks ago.
He can't play in the rain. Yeah, that's true.
You did say that.

Speaker 1 He can't play in the rain. This was very close to being like the Patriots lost.

Speaker 7 You lose to the Patriots. Society, there was no such thing as rain, and it's just a complete utopia with Zach Wilson, Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's rained in New York every single weekend for like

Speaker 1 since we moved.

Speaker 1 That's why we haven't done the bike ride. Yeah, that's the bike ride.

Speaker 7 Memes, you are excited, though, because it does look.

Speaker 7 Aaron Rodgers throwing a pass like he's throwing it right now is actually insane.

Speaker 7 It's nuts.

Speaker 1 You also, memes, like you should be very excited because the Jets have like a weird, I don't want to say team of destiny, but there's something weird going on. Like, this is three wins in a row.

Speaker 7 And they're winning weird, ugly games in strange ways, which means that they're probably doing a lot of little stuff really, really well.

Speaker 1 And I'm starting to kind of believe in the Jets, which like if

Speaker 1 non-Jet fans, NFL fans are starting to believe in the Jets, that means that something's going well because I would have no reason to believe in the Jets.

Speaker 1 After they beat the Bills, after Aaron Rodgers tours Achilles, you knew

Speaker 1 something could happen. It was the Chiefs game, though.
That was the turning point. The Chiefs game, I feel like

Speaker 1 that was a loss that counts as a win because you came out of it being like, oh, they might... The Jets might be okay.
Yeah, we should have won that game. Right.
And then you've won three in a row. And

Speaker 1 we get the Jets on standalone primetime twice. Two weeks in a row.

Speaker 2 Memes is acting like a different person on the show right now.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. No, he wasn't.
I don't know what he's doing.

Speaker 2 Like, he's going around saying that if they were in the NFC, they'd be the one seed in the NFC.

Speaker 2 He's like, yeah, you know, like, they're pretty good.

Speaker 2 All day he's been talking about how the Jets are the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 1 After winning 13 seats, 10 matches.

Speaker 7 When he says about the, who's the one seed in the NFC right now?

Speaker 2 That would be the Eagles.

Speaker 7 What happened when the Jets play the Eagles?

Speaker 2 How many losses do the Jets have? How many losses do the Eagles have?

Speaker 7 I'm just saying. CEPF DC is my side.

Speaker 1 I see memes. So, Memes,

Speaker 1 you're not telling us the truth right now.

Speaker 1 You're playing coy.

Speaker 1 Best team in the NFC.

Speaker 1 Right now, technically, we beat the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 7 No, not technically. Like, literally, you did beat the Eagles.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they don't have to talk about what happened to the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 7 Wait, so you're saying that the Eagles aren't the best team in the NFC?

Speaker 2 No, I'm just saying that Meme just picks and chooses what is good for him.

Speaker 1 I love Meme's relationship. That doesn't sound right.

Speaker 7 You guys are each other's biggest haters, except when it comes to Hank, and then you'll team up on Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's true. That is actually facts.

Speaker 7 Not only do we get the Jets in prime time on Monday night football against the Chargers, then we get them Sunday night football against the Raiders, and then skip a week. And is that Thanksgiving?

Speaker 7 Yeah. They play the Dolphins.
Yeah, Black Friday. So a lot of.

Speaker 7 Oh, that's the Black Friday game. Yeah.
So that's a lot of.

Speaker 1 And that's also a big game for me because I said the Jets could beat the Dolphins last week. Well, you said right now.
Right now. That's true.
Good point, Memes. Thank you.
Right now is passed.

Speaker 1 Right now.

Speaker 7 Memes, I'm going to bring you back down to earth for just a second. Yeah.
Your offensive line sucks.

Speaker 1 We lost two more guys.

Speaker 7 Yeah, your offensive line is not good. Dexter Lawrence.

Speaker 1 That might be good, though. When you lose bad players, it might not be the worst.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, that's actually.

Speaker 7 That's a weakness of their team. Yeah.
They just lost the bad guys.

Speaker 1 It couldn't get worse.

Speaker 7 So Dexter Lawrence had 14 pressures today. 14.

Speaker 1 Your defensive tap.

Speaker 1 Although, Thibodeau, that one penalty, that might have been the deciding factor because they got the clock stopped on that first chunk play after they got the ball back.

Speaker 7 To quote your coach memes, they don't ask how, they ask how many.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this final score should have been 7-6.

Speaker 1 For the Jets? Yeah. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Did you guys... So the defense almost ⁇ the defense on the Giants touchdown just gave up like two personal foul penalties? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't give those up. You commit those.

Speaker 7 I'm also going to jump in real quick

Speaker 7 and remind you that you did play against Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 7 And so

Speaker 7 Turad Taylor was still in the game.

Speaker 7 I don't know if it would have. It probably wouldn't have had negative nine net passing yards.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, when they do the hypothetical, like, oh, how many rushing yards could you get behind the best offensive line in football?

Speaker 1 I think I could have the same stat line as Tommy DeVito today.

Speaker 1 Negative one yard, two for seven. Yeah.
I just do pop passes. Two pop passes.

Speaker 7 They should have got him going, yeah, with like a little direct pop pass or a shovel pass.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Cook a little bit.
Mike, you don't. And then just throw it at someone's feet the minute you get the ball.
Or just arm punt.

Speaker 7 Throw it as far as you can for an interception.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, he didn't even throw an interception, did he?

Speaker 7 I don't think they trusted him enough to throw an interception.

Speaker 8 Shout out, fellow Syracuse Grad, Andrew Catalan. One of the ugliest, best games you'll ever see on the call.

Speaker 1 We all LOL'd in the cave.

Speaker 1 Wait, who?

Speaker 8 Andrew Catalan. He was on the call.
He said one of the best, ugliest, ugliest, best games you'll ever see. Got it.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 it was a very fun game.

Speaker 1 You know, it was a Big Ten West game. It was Iowa, Wisconsin.
You got a big road. Nebraska, Purdue.
Yeah. Yeah, it was a great game.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up. Panthers, Texans.
Panthers 15, Texans 13. Bryce Young's better than C.J.
Stroud.

Speaker 7 That's what the stats say today.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 7 Fun fact.

Speaker 1 We've figured it out. So

Speaker 7 that was the first time that the top three picks had played in a game together. Once it was kind of wild.
Yeah. So Bryce has beat the Stroud Boys.
And, you know, Stroud Boy, we're going to regroup.

Speaker 7 We're going to retreat. We're going to talk about what went wrong.
We're not going to turn on each other, and we're going to be fine. I think the Texans will be okay, but the Panthers needed this.

Speaker 7 They need this particular game. One, coming off a bye week.

Speaker 1 Two.

Speaker 7 Having something for your fan base to look at and say, okay, Bryce Young might be the guy. He might be the guy.

Speaker 1 And Frank Wright, good job being smart enough to not call the plays anymore. Yep.
That was good by you.

Speaker 1 I also walk away from this game being like, we should celebrate the O-16 teams more because this is a reminder how hard it is to lose every game. It is any given Sunday.

Speaker 1 And the Panthers, I mean, it was not a pretty game, but they won a game.

Speaker 7 They did. The field goals at the end were so funny, too, when Eddie Pinero was out there and the Texans employed the strategy of just trying to time the snap every single time.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 And this one guy was like five yards off sides twice in a row.

Speaker 1 It was like when you played in Madden, you're like, can I stand in front of the kicker when they snap the ball?

Speaker 7 You can just make somebody rage quit. That's what he was trying to do.
Make the Panthers rage quit at the end of the game by committing the same foul over and over and over again.

Speaker 7 Be like, I can do this all day.

Speaker 1 It's a smart strategy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are they going to do? They're just going to give you another fight. He's going to make it anyway.
They already were well within field goal range. But shout out the Panthers.

Speaker 1 They won a football game. I don't want them to win any more games, but they won a football game.
That's good for them. Must feel good.
Texans,

Speaker 1 are we worried? They're just kind of what they are.

Speaker 7 The Texans will be okay.

Speaker 1 They're a future team.

Speaker 7 They'll be okay. The Texans are, you're still good.
You're still way better than people thought you would be this year.

Speaker 1 But there was a time when it was like, ooh, Texans could be in the playoffs. I thought playoffs.
Yeah, now it's like, hey, let's just enjoy the fact that we have a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think his name's not Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 7 I thought playoffs? Question mark last week. Now I'm like, probably not playoffs.

Speaker 1 Probably not playoffs. But,

Speaker 1 I mean, there's still three and four. But yeah, probably not playoffs.

Speaker 7 So you're for the Panthers. Your Super Bowl this year will be playing the Tennessee Titans for the Wrights to the Oilers uniforms.
Right.

Speaker 1 Also, very funny when Eddie Pinero hit the kick and then he,

Speaker 1 like, like a little kid, jumped on his lineman's back, and like they were running up the field. That was just a very.

Speaker 1 He forgot he was a professional athlete for a second. Yeah, I love those.
He was a little boy. I love it.
Yeah, he was a little little boy.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Next up, Broncos 24, Chiefs, 9.

Speaker 1 The 16-game losing streak is over. The Broncos have finally beaten the Patrick Mahomes Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Good for them.

Speaker 7 Yeah, this is a big win for the Broncos. And it's also the snapping of...

Speaker 7 Maybe a more impressive streak that they had, which is that they were 0-10 in games in which they held the lead at halftime, which is crazy. So now they're 1-10 in their last 11 games of that.

Speaker 7 But this was like the Broncos were the better team today.

Speaker 7 It never really felt like the Chiefs were going to make that comeback. You kept waiting for it to happen.
Mikhail Hardman had that one muff punt, and then it was pretty much over after that.

Speaker 7 But I felt like the Broncos were in charge of the game.

Speaker 1 Okay, so yeah, maybe the Broncos are a better team. I guess what my point is,

Speaker 1 if I were a Chiefs fan, I wouldn't be worried about this game at all. They had five turnovers.

Speaker 1 If you have five turnovers, you should lose by more than 21 to 9. Like the fact that they were the muff kick,

Speaker 1 punt return, they were down 14-9 getting the ball back. Like the Chiefs could have won this game if they didn't have five fucking turnovers.
Yes. And they like outgained the Broncos.
So

Speaker 1 I'm happy for the Broncos. If you're the Chiefs, that's a different loss than the Niners and their three-game losing streak where their defense keeps getting gashed.
I think that's just

Speaker 1 that happened. Burn the tape.
Like, let's stop fucking turning the ball over constantly.

Speaker 7 The Chiefs will be fine as long as Patrick Mahomes doesn't have swine flu. Right.
And it's like a multi-week illness that he's got.

Speaker 7 But no, I think today, like, turnovers go into the equation of which team was better. Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs turned the ball over a lot.

Speaker 7 The Broncos, today the Broncos were the better team. I think more importantly, we all got fucked.
We all got fucked on a snow game. It happens every year.

Speaker 1 We got it last night, Colorado State Air Force. Yeah, where they were throwing snowballs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they got a penalty.

Speaker 7 But we got fucked on our first snow game of the year where in the morning they'll show you a clip of like how bad the stadium is. It's like 8 a.m.

Speaker 7 And oh yeah, we've got like seven more hours until kickoff. They're probably going to clear off some of the snow.
So we all got excited about a snow game and there was no snow on the ground.

Speaker 7 There was no snow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I would say more than the turnovers because that was kind of a fluky, you know, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 Turnovers obviously are part of the game, but there was some fluky shit that happened to the Chiefs. They have to stop dropping passes.

Speaker 1 Sky Moore had another one in the end zone that could have made it a one-score game late.

Speaker 7 Skymore, he caught Kadarius Tony Idis.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the Chiefs,

Speaker 1 that would be the big thing. That would be the big takeaways: like, stop dropping passes.
You probably won't turn the ball over five times again, but stop dropping passes.

Speaker 7 But you're happy if you're a Broncos fan just because you get the insult stack goes away.

Speaker 1 I have a question: does this make Russell Wilson worth it?

Speaker 7 No.

Speaker 1 So the last six quarterbacks, Broncos quarterbacks, couldn't beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Trevor Simeon, Paxton Lynch, Case Keenum, Joe Flacco, Drew Locke, Teddy Bridgewater, all couldn't beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 7 No Brock in there, huh?

Speaker 1 No, Brock did not. He was like, there was injuries.
He missed the Chiefs. Huh.

Speaker 7 Yeah. So congratulations, Broncos fans.

Speaker 7 You've gotten the monkey off your back.

Speaker 1 And I think Russell Wilson's worth it.

Speaker 7 He becomes the Broncos killer, and that's all he does.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs killer, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Well, he's also already.

Speaker 1 I did like how the Broncos are playing Taylor Swift after, because now we get to start the narrative that we've all been waiting for.

Speaker 1 Travis Kelsey, in games that Taylor Swift attends, is averaging 108 yards per game. In games that she doesn't attend, 46.5 yards per game.
You want to play harder for your girlfriend, right?

Speaker 1 You do want to play harder for your girlfriend, but she's going on tour.

Speaker 7 Was she watching today? I don't know. Did she put anything online? Can we look that up?

Speaker 7 Is she a real fan?

Speaker 1 You know this take is going to happen. Oh, it's already happened? Kansas City Radio?

Speaker 7 They put it on the broadcast. Yeah.
They said there's a very clear difference in games where she attends versus the ones that she doesn't.

Speaker 1 He's too love-struck when she's not there. He doesn't want to play football.

Speaker 7 He's got too much come in him.

Speaker 7 I'm not going to go there. He's got too much.
Just backs him up. It backs him right up.

Speaker 8 She's promoting her new album that was out this weekend. I don't see anything about Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Interesting.

Speaker 8 Was it 1989 Taylor's version, I believe?

Speaker 7 It's a banger.

Speaker 1 And they broke the record. The Broncos.
16 games. Damn.

Speaker 7 Maybe they didn't give her tickets.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Because if you're an opposing team, you can just say she's not allowed here, right?

Speaker 7 You can ban anybody from the stadium.

Speaker 6 I was at the Blackhawks game last week, and I was saying to Donnie,

Speaker 6 you should just hire Taylor Swift lookalikes and just put them in a box. Show them on the fan cam.

Speaker 1 Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 You could probably find one on cameo.

Speaker 6 People would freak out, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Have a bunch of them.

Speaker 7 Put him up in the suite level, too.

Speaker 7 He can't find her. Right.

Speaker 1 She's everywhere.

Speaker 7 Or maybe he'll play really good because everybody looks like his girlfriend. Yeah.
It's not a bad idea, Hank.

Speaker 6 I just think it, yeah, get the people going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, get the people just talking, buzzing, talking about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Chiefs now, this Germany trip, the fact they're going on Thursday. So late.
Yeah. So late.

Speaker 1 Because they...

Speaker 1 I think they'll win against the Dolphins, but yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 if it goes... The Chiefs were the team that I felt the most confident in in the AFC.
And again, this game is not a game where I'm like, oh man, what's wrong with the Chiefs? They had five turnovers.

Speaker 1 Like, you just don't turn the ball over five times. But if they lose to the Dolphins, then you got to start asking questions.

Speaker 7 It feels like the Chiefs are trying to trap us. They're like begging us to say the thing that people say every year, which is like, what's wrong with the Chiefs?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 7 The Chiefs trade away their good players at the deadline. We shouldn't fall for it.

Speaker 7 You're trying your best, Chiefs, and I appreciate it, but you're not going to fool me. We already gave them the AFC West title last week, right? Yeah, we did.
Yeah, so you already have it.

Speaker 7 No take Baxies.

Speaker 7 Speaking about doppelgangers, I don't know if you guys watched on Sunday Countdown this week, they did a special on NFL doppelgangers.

Speaker 7 They had like the Trevor Lawrence girl that looks like Trevor Lawrence and a couple other people, the Aaron Rodgers guy from like Europe or whatever. Then they were like,

Speaker 7 who are the ESPN doppelgangers? And they had Alex Smith. They put up a picture of Ryan Gosling.
The picture looked a lot alike. He's a good-looking guy.
And then they said, what about Adam Schefter?

Speaker 7 And then they put up a picture of Paul Rudd. And they're like, Doesn't he look just like Paul Rudd?

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 7 And I thought I was going insane looking at my television. Shefty.
I was like, She,

Speaker 1 what

Speaker 7 good? Good for you, Shefty, for approving this package. But there's, I don't think there's a guy on Earth that looks less like Paul Rudd.

Speaker 1 Damn. Yeah.
Shefty.

Speaker 1 You got to take that shirt off. Take the shirt off.

Speaker 7 Take the shirt off.

Speaker 1 Ooh, maybe the Vikings should call Shefty. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Play some quarterback.

Speaker 7 Maybe gritty a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Ravens 31 Cardinals 24.

Speaker 1 Fuck Nelson Aguilar for

Speaker 1 just, I don't know what he was doing on that on-site kick. That was insane.

Speaker 7 So I didn't see the on-side kick because I was frustrated with how this game turned out to begin with. Yes.

Speaker 1 We all-time Cardinals cover at the end by the on-side kick and

Speaker 1 getting the penalty on a missed field goal, their own penalty, getting to retake the field goal and hitting it and covering the nine and a half.

Speaker 7 The penalties at the end on the field goals were bad because it was a penalty for like offsides, right? Yeah. It was offsides on your own fall start.

Speaker 1 Yeah, field goal block team.

Speaker 7 Yeah, false start. And then they missed it wide right and the second one went right down the dick.

Speaker 7 It was a tough way to lose a cover, but it does extend Lamar Jackson's career record against the NFC to 17 and 1. Yeah.
So he continues to dominate the NFC.

Speaker 7 And also congrats to the Cardinals because when when you're looking at the draft picks, you're now holding the first overall pick. Number one.

Speaker 1 Number one. Maybe Kyler Murray comes back.
You rip off a couple wins, but you're number one right now.

Speaker 1 Also, that touchdown by Trey McBride was awesome when he had the entire Ravens team trying to tackle him.

Speaker 1 If I was Trey McBride, I would just have that touchdown playing on loop when you walk into my house.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that was the best game by a Cardinals tight end in a very, very long time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just make that

Speaker 1 a piece of art. That's That's just a gift that's over your fireplace.

Speaker 7 Your wall, your entire

Speaker 1 five grown men trying to take you down as you just carry them all into the end zone.

Speaker 7 The entire front siding of your house should just be a giant projection. Yes, that player.

Speaker 1 A drone light show.

Speaker 7 And if you're the Ravens or if you're the Cardinals,

Speaker 7 you got the Diamondbacks. Yeah.
Let's not be greedy here.

Speaker 1 No, you got the Diamondbacks. And then the Suns are probably the one.
You got the number one pick. Yeah, and the number one pick.
You got the number one pick.

Speaker 1 And as for the Ravens, they didn't play their best game on offense, but they still are better than the Cardinals, which I, you know, I was thinking that maybe this was last week was going to be the jump-off point for Todd Munkins' offense.

Speaker 1 Lamar didn't have the best game, but they still handled them pretty easily. And the Ravens' defense was very good.

Speaker 7 They were fine. So the Ravens have gone in a matter of like a couple years complaining about blowing all these fourth-quarter victories that turn into losses.

Speaker 7 So now you're just complaining about blowing fourth-quarter covers. Covers, yeah.
That turned into backquarters.

Speaker 1 Good problem to have.

Speaker 7 It's a great problem to have if you're the Ravens.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We do have a little Odell watch.
He smashed his helmet in frustration.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Was that because...

Speaker 1 He got injured, but he also had zero catches.

Speaker 7 I think he drew a pass interference on that, and he was like frustrated that he didn't catch it.

Speaker 7 Did he spit into his helmet before he did it?

Speaker 1 That's my biggest one on that one. But maybe a D.Va watch?

Speaker 7 Oh, I mean, Odell's been.

Speaker 7 He's been up there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I do like the purple hair. It's pretty cool.
Yeah, it looks cool. Yeah.
And the Ravens ran the ball. I wonder if the Ravens are going to try to get a running back.

Speaker 1 Because they also are in the Derrick Henry discussion. Yeah, where it's like they have a Super Bowl, they have Super Bowl aspirations, and they might want to try to beef up that running back room.

Speaker 7 I always feel like the Ravens can plug whoever back there. If Lamar is running the ball well,

Speaker 7 it makes it a lot easier on anybody else that's in the backfield.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the Ravens are looking pretty good at 6-2.

Speaker 1 I feel pretty confident about the Ravens.

Speaker 1 They have a big game against the Seahawks next week, which will be kind of a who's for real

Speaker 1 situation. Because I'm high on the Seahawks as well, and

Speaker 1 they didn't play great against the Browns today.

Speaker 1 If either of those

Speaker 1 team wins that game handily, I'm going to be like, ooh, watch out.

Speaker 7 I think the Seahawks are for real.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, let's talk about that game. Seahawks 24, Browns 20.

Speaker 1 They did struggle a little today. I mean, they basically needed P.J.
Walker to turn back into P.J. Walker at the very end with that interception to win the game because

Speaker 1 they came out so hot, looked like it was going to be a route, and they just toyed around. The Browns were able to run the ball, and

Speaker 1 they needed heroics at the end to win that game, which I did not going into it. I did not think that's how that game is going to play out.

Speaker 7 It's kind of similar to the Jets, how they win a bunch of weird, strange games in different ways.

Speaker 7 The Seahawks have actually found themselves in that position where they're in first place in the division.

Speaker 1 Remember, we had that discussion on Friday, and I was talked out of it because of our friend George Kittle.

Speaker 7 They're in first place right now.

Speaker 1 They're in first place right now.

Speaker 7 I did not see the 49ers losing.

Speaker 1 They are in first place right now. When I said that, it was plus 400.
Now they're plus 250.

Speaker 7 And it's Jake Bobo time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 That guy's awesome. It's just fun to say.
I fucking love him. I love him.
The Seahawks wear great throwback uniforms today, too. Yeah, they did.

Speaker 7 Jamal Adams made a big play wearing a throwback helmet, bounced right off it. Yep.
Got the pick.

Speaker 7 P.J. Walker

Speaker 7 putting the ball in his hands. People are going to be questioning a lot of things Stefansky does.
But I actually think that Stefansky is doing a great job coaching this team this year with P.J.

Speaker 7 Walker mostly running the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 I guess they have to figure out, like, hey, Deshaun, are you going to play this year?

Speaker 1 Because their defense is, now their defense has the last couple of weeks been not the defense it was, you know, the historic defense the first month and a half of the season, but their defense is still awesome.

Speaker 1 You just need

Speaker 1 a B-level quarterback.

Speaker 1 PJ Walker, nice guy. I think his ceiling is like C.

Speaker 1 So, Deshaun, are you going to play?

Speaker 7 Are you going to play? I think he's going to come back maybe next week, maybe the week after.

Speaker 1 What is he even injured? What's the best

Speaker 7 rotator cuff?

Speaker 1 I don't buy it.

Speaker 7 So, yeah. I don't think he likes football.
A lot of people were having the discourse. Does Deshaun Watson love football?

Speaker 7 Does he love being a football player or does he love playing football?

Speaker 7 I love that conversation. That's a very good

Speaker 7 because I think he just loves being a football player, big cat.

Speaker 1 He loves being paid like a football player.

Speaker 7 I don't think that he loves football. He doesn't love the grind.

Speaker 1 I hope he uses this clip.

Speaker 7 Actually, that's a bad choice of words.

Speaker 1 I hope he uses this clip as like a lot of people have been doubting my love for the game.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 7 I'm going to doubt Deshaun Watson. I'm going to call him out.

Speaker 1 I'm going to call him out.

Speaker 7 I think I love football more than Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 1 I know I love football more than he does.

Speaker 1 I'm going to call him out.

Speaker 7 If I had, if you could cut off my arm, I'd still go out there with my boys on Sunday. Absolutely.
If I was on the break.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't fumble? No, never. With one arm?

Speaker 7 I have too much pride to fumble. Nope.
I'd pay two. My details are that important to me where I'd never fumble.

Speaker 1 No chance.

Speaker 7 Don't take a sack in a big-time scenario where you're going to get backed up out of field goal range either. I know that.
I would never take a sack.

Speaker 1 I'd throw the ball away. I'd never take a sack.
Every time.

Speaker 7 You know what? Because an incompletion is not a bad thing to happen. Nope.
And I know that because I love football.

Speaker 1 I'd also make plays. I'd make plays happen.

Speaker 7 I'd make plays with my arm and my feet.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 And my mind. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Because I can read a defense. Yep.
Front and back.

Speaker 7 Back and feet. You know what else I do? I'd grab guys by the face mask if they're not on their assignments.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd head-butt people without my face mask on.

Speaker 7 I'd pull them over and I'd say, no, you're running the wrong route.

Speaker 1 That's just guys that love football, unlike Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 7 I would also never throw my guys under the bus. Nope.
There's a lot of things I wouldn't do.

Speaker 1 Never talk about another man's money? Never do that. I'd be the first one in, last one out.
Mm-hmm. That's a fact.
I wouldn't go apple picking on my bye week. Nope.

Speaker 1 I'd be in the film room. I'd be in the film room.
Grinding. I'd have my nose in.
Nope. I said grinding.

Speaker 7 I'd have my nose in the playbook all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All the time.
All the time.

Speaker 7 I'd be studying.

Speaker 1 24-7, 24-7-3-66.

Speaker 7 I'd be studying every play. I'd know every play.
I'd check into all the right protections. Is another thing I would do? Yep.

Speaker 1 See who's hot. Yep.
See who's not.

Speaker 1 All that stuff.

Speaker 7 I would reward my guys for hustling.

Speaker 1 Audible.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, listen, Deshaun, it's pretty clear right now that we love football more than you do.

Speaker 1 We just rattled off all the things that you don't love.

Speaker 1 Deshaun probably was listening to this podcast, and when we started talking about how much we love football, he turned it off. He's like, these guys are freaks.
They love football.

Speaker 7 I would love the preparation even more than the games. Easy.

Speaker 1 Practice is where I shine.

Speaker 7 That's what a freak I am.

Speaker 1 The weight room? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 7 I live there. I'd get in there.
I'd be lifting with the O-lineman.

Speaker 1 You know what? All day.

Speaker 7 I'd be hanging out with the O-lineman after work, too.

Speaker 1 I'd buy them gifts.

Speaker 1 Not even for Christmas.

Speaker 1 Just for being alive.

Speaker 7 Every day I would see my offensive line. I would give them another Yeti cooler.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeti cooler. Mm-hmm.
It sounds like you're going cheap. I'd be getting them the fucking tricked out golf carts every day.
That'd be sick, too.

Speaker 1 They just have so many they wouldn't know what to do with it.

Speaker 7 Well, you have to have the golf cart to put the Yeti cooler in the back.

Speaker 1 That's true. They're hand in hand.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I'd get them Yeti golf carts.

Speaker 1 Get them cowboy boots. Yeah.
All of it. Watches.

Speaker 7 Maybe like a couple times a year, not two thousand.

Speaker 7 Cash.

Speaker 7 I love football way more than Deshaun Watson loves football.

Speaker 1 He's been called out.

Speaker 9 He loves being a football player.

Speaker 1 Deshaun Watson, if you're listening to this, tell us your favorite thing about football. Bet you can't.

Speaker 1 You're probably going to say the money.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you can't say that.

Speaker 7 I play for free.

Speaker 1 I should have said that to start. I would play for free.
I would pay them to let me play.

Speaker 7 $1. For the honor.

Speaker 1 Because they'd have to pay me one.

Speaker 7 It's a privilege to play in the National Football League. A lot of guys think that, no, it's not, like, it should be given to you.
I disagree.

Speaker 7 I think it's a privilege to go out there and you protect the shield.

Speaker 1 And if they had to pay me because of, like, rules and everything, the NFL PA, I'd restructure my deal every fucking day.

Speaker 7 Move money around. I'd be so cap-friendly.

Speaker 1 I'd give my guaranteed money back. That's how much we love football.
Hank, how much do you love football?

Speaker 7 You're just different.

Speaker 1 Not that much.

Speaker 1 And that was Deshaun Watson. That was our interview with Deshaun Watson right there.

Speaker 1 Okay. I hope he hears that.

Speaker 7 Yeah. I hope somebody cuts it up and hears him.

Speaker 1 Someone send that to him.

Speaker 1 All right. Last one.
Bengals, 31, Niners, 17.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 7 This was a can't-lose. I said going into it, it's a can't-lose for both teams.
The Niners lost. The Niners are in.

Speaker 1 The Bengals are can't lose. All right, so we should start with saying that the Bengals are all the way back.

Speaker 1 These are the Bengals that, if you're a Bengals fan, you spent the first month saying to yourself, I don't think this is the real team. I think they'll be back eventually.

Speaker 1 But as the weeks went by, you're like, I'd really like to see it eventually. Because even in their wins, like their Monday Night Football win against the Rams, it wasn't great.
Their Seahawks win.

Speaker 1 The offense didn't look great. This was the Bengals announcing they're back because Joe Burrow was out of this world good.

Speaker 1 28 for 32, 283 yards, yards three touchdowns and he ran the ball 63 yards running or 43 yards running sorry but like you could tell that that play he made where he almost got sacked like four different times he was throwing guys off him yeah he's healthy and this is what you want from the bench like you if you're a bengals fan you are having the best night of your sleep of the 2023 season i know that for a fact because you're like we're good joe burrows back we got the bills at home next week and we just they they kicked the shit out of the Niners.

Speaker 1 They ran all over them. They did everything they wanted.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the running game was really good, and Burrow did look like himself. And Jamar Chase was always open.

Speaker 7 He was open the entire game. It was pretty sick to watch the Bengals rounded to form.
We did get robbed of one of the best plays of the day where Burrow fumbled the balls.

Speaker 7 They ruled that he was already down, so they blew the whistle. The center on the Bengals picked up the ball.

Speaker 7 Karis probably had, he probably could have gone for like 35 yards running straight downhill with the ball. And they ruled it that he was down, but it was a fumble.

Speaker 1 I really wish that we could have gotten that because it would have been a great highlight it's also great whenever an offensive lineman picks up the ball because they have two competing thoughts in their head one is i got to start running and the other is they start looking around like who am i going to fight like you you could see it in his face he's like who am i going to fight someone's going to try to attack me I get to fight someone.

Speaker 1 And it's a great, it's like, it's so much fun to watch that happen at the same time.

Speaker 7 I love it when they take the ball and they immediately go into like ball protection mode. Yeah, they pull back.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They put two arms on top.

Speaker 7 Like one arm on top, one arm on bottom, and they just start running forward and eventually just get their knees cut out from underneath them and go down.

Speaker 7 But it's a great play, and I'm sad that it got taken off the books today.

Speaker 1 As for the Niners, they're in trouble. Their defense has been bad the last two weeks.
I know everyone wants to talk about Brock Purdy, who's also not been good.

Speaker 1 And people are like, ooh, is Brock Purdy starting to turn back into a pumpkin?

Speaker 1 I have more confidence in Trent Williams and Debo Samuel coming back and the Niners' offense looking like they have for the first six weeks of the season or five weeks of the season.

Speaker 1 The Niners' defense is the issue.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I don't think Brock Pay didn't play that poorly tonight.

Speaker 1 That one interception was bad.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he had a bad interception, but the rest of the game, I thought Brock was good enough to win, but their defense just stunk.

Speaker 1 And they got gashed again. They got gashed against the Vikings.
They got gashed against the Bengals. Like,

Speaker 1 that is a cause for concern because,

Speaker 1 what, three weeks ago, we were like, no one's going to beat the Niners. Now they've lost three in a row? Yeah.

Speaker 7 There's some bad stats out there that are following Kyle Shanahan around when it comes to playing from behind.

Speaker 7 The first one, which is not good, is that

Speaker 7 Kyle Shanahan as a head coach is now 0-37 when trailing by 8 in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 7 So the Niners, I mean, I think it's fair to say that the Niners are not built to play from behind. It's tough for them.

Speaker 7 They like to run the ball a lot, and especially when they have Trent Williams out and Debo Samuel out, it's going to be very, very hard for them to come back. They're not like super, super explosive.

Speaker 7 But there's another one where I think they haven't won a game either. Or maybe they've got one win when they're trailing by three in the fourth quarter, too.

Speaker 7 So Shanahan,

Speaker 7 not the best at coming from behind. You have to jump out to an early lead.

Speaker 1 But again, it was, yeah, I mean, I don't really think they're

Speaker 1 offense is going to be fine. It's just their defense is...

Speaker 1 Yeah, it looks bad.

Speaker 1 It looks bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Vikings had 452 yards on them, and the Bengals put 400 yards on them tonight.

Speaker 7 Like,

Speaker 1 that's not a Super Bowl defense right now, as the last two games have been played. Yep.

Speaker 1 I hope, Brock Birdie, we're going to start the discourse. And

Speaker 1 it naturally will happen. He was being talked about in one way when they were 5-0, and now he's the quarterback.
Yeah. Are you worried?

Speaker 1 I'm not worried about Brock.

Speaker 7 I think Brock is kind of who Brock is. But the defense is.
But it is Brocktober. It is Brocktober.

Speaker 1 And it hasn't been Brocktober.

Speaker 7 He did come back from a concussion pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 And he might have gotten concussed again today.

Speaker 7 There was a moment where he hit his head on the ground. He had like a Tua situation.
He started grabbing his head. Yeah.
Not good. But again, if you're going to rank

Speaker 7 what's the problem with the 49ers right now, I think Brock is probably third on the list.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they have a bye week, so they're going to get healthy. Yep.
And they'll be good.

Speaker 7 Possibly.

Speaker 7 I think they'll be okay. Their defense has to be fixed.
But the Seahawks are good.

Speaker 1 They missed D'Amico Ryans.

Speaker 7 That's really what it is. They got Wilkes.
Is that their defense coordinator?

Speaker 1 Listen, D'Amico's a good fucking coach. And now

Speaker 1 they're not in the driver's seat in the NFC West anymore. Nope.

Speaker 1 Okay. I guess we could talk real quick about the Bears, Tyson Bagent, maybe not the guy.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 is that good? I think it's probably overall a good thing because if he was guy adjacent, then people would be putting a lot of pressure on Justin Fields.

Speaker 7 You probably wouldn't get the first or second overall pick.

Speaker 1 He does get the ball out fast.

Speaker 7 He's fun.

Speaker 1 Very fun. I also thought at the first interception, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'd have to watch the all-22, which I will because I love football, felt like the receivers both ran the wrong route because it was very bizarre.

Speaker 1 Looked like he threw to a spot and neither guy was there. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So do you guys have any teams or any players that you're going to be unloading? No. So you're going to stick with these guys?

Speaker 1 I don't think we have any. I don't know if we have much that people want.

Speaker 7 That people would want. Yeah.
Cool Komet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I want, like, he's young. Yeah.
Like, DJ Moore's young. Yeah.
You don't want to give up. You have to, at some point, try to build a roster.
The Chargers looked great, though.

Speaker 1 I think they scored on every single offensive possession.

Speaker 1 The Chargers basically walked away from that game being like, wouldn't it be fun to play the Bears every week?

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 if you're a Chargers fan, you are probably looking at how big Everett looks every time he touches the ball and being like, that's sick.

Speaker 7 I love that we've got a giant tight end that nobody should be able to tackle.

Speaker 1 That stiff arm he put on Hicks was little

Speaker 1 boy-esque. It was.

Speaker 1 It was like trying to, you know, little brother, big brother, trying to get at him, and he couldn't.

Speaker 7 There's a few guys in the NFL when they have the ball in their hand and you look at them and you just say, like, it's impossible to tackle this person.

So the Chargers look good, and justin herbert looked good his finger thing is so weird like the only

Speaker 1 it was it wasn't it was uh parham oh it was parham it wasn't everett everett's outrett's out yeah parham but parham is even bigger's also big he's parham's bigger bigger no yeah parham is 6'8 yeah parham's a beast uh

Speaker 1 oh i guess tyson pajin only threw two interceptions i thought there was a third mixed in there um yeah justin herbert looked great getting to play the bears defense uh two things though that I'd love to just point out national media-wise.

Speaker 1 I believe it was Collinsworth who said the Bears aren't built to play from behind.

Speaker 1 The Bears aren't built to play from ahead. The Bears aren't built to play with a tie.
The Bears aren't built to play.

Speaker 1 I don't know what that was. Like, this team can't play from.

Speaker 1 We can't play anyway.

Speaker 7 I don't think the Bears can beat you in a shootout. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's any type of game you want to be. The Bears can beat

Speaker 1 Brian Hoyer.

Speaker 7 The Bears can beat the Commanders if Dick Bucus just died. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 This is like, it was a pretty stark difference when you play against Justin Herbert versus the Raiders. Uh, and yeah, that one was bad.

Speaker 1 And then Jason Garrett on the pregame said he loves how Eberflus rided the ship.

Speaker 7 I think Jason Garrett just wants a job. That's what it sounds like to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't

Speaker 1 the definition of writing the ship, um, because they won two games against a bad Raiders' team and a bad commander's team. No offense.
No, we're bad.

Speaker 1 I don't think we're righted the ship. No.
I think the ship has not been righted. I think the ship's still taking on water.

Speaker 7 Briefly, it was like, you remember when the Titanic broke apart and half of it sunk down? Oh, this might float. And then for a second half of it, stayed up until the bottom half dragged it down.

Speaker 7 That's where you guys were at.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we writed the ship and we're like, hey, maybe. Yeah.
This is a lot of metal. Maybe we'll stay up.

Speaker 7 And now you've got Iberfloos clinging to like a door like jack.

Speaker 7 But then Rose lets go. Yeah.
And Ryan Poles is going to let go. You told me you would never let go, Rose.

Speaker 1 That guy, I got to shout him out. I think his name's Ross Reed.
He had a great, it was Iberfluce walking in, and I think it was Ted Phillips and Ryan Paul's behind him.

Speaker 1 And he's wearing basically the same suit as Joe Pesci and Goodfellows right before he gets whacked.

Speaker 7 When he gets made? Yeah. In the made ceremony.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah. Things aren't going well.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say the take, I want to say. No, I'm going to say it.
Say it.

Speaker 1 I didn't love that Justin Fields is wearing sunglasses.

Speaker 7 On the sidelines?

Speaker 1 I didn't love it. I know this makes me sound like an old guy.
I agree.

Speaker 1 I don't know. If you show up to your job.
I don't know.

Speaker 7 If you're at your job and you're wearing sunglasses, you are a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 Did you not think it was a little weird?

Speaker 7 It might have been bright on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 Might have been bright.

Speaker 7 Marijuana's legal and

Speaker 1 you sound like Colin here. I know.
I know. Listen, I said that before.
I was like, this is an old man. This is going to be an old man take.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's because we were losing and it was bad. And I want Justin Fields to play and I want to see what the rest of the season looks like with him.
I just didn't love the sunglasses.

Speaker 1 I know there's going to be like old radio guys who are going to have the same take as me and that will make me feel old. But guess what? We're in the trust tree.
Part of my take, we let it fly.

Speaker 1 We shoot from the hip. I didn't love it.
There's an old saying.

Speaker 7 There's two types of of people that wear sunglasses indoors, blind people and assholes. Right.

Speaker 1 Did anyone else have the same feeling or was it just me?

Speaker 7 Make of that what you will. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do a quick Twitter search.

Speaker 7 You don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 I feel like sunglasses. I'm going to probably, there's going to be people agreeing with me that I do not agree with in general.

Speaker 7 This seems like Danny Connell is all over this one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, this is a Danny Cannell.

Speaker 1 You're absolutely right. This is Danny Canel.

Speaker 1 Danny Connell. Fuck.

Speaker 7 Danny Canats.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Justin Fields wearing sunglasses indoors looks like an an asshole. I love Justin Fields, so I know.
Listen, we've had him on the show. I feel like I can say this.

Speaker 1 If I were standing next to him, I'd been like,

Speaker 1 maybe if we're winning, the sunglasses play, when you're getting your ass kicked the way we got our ass kicked, maybe take him off.

Speaker 7 You know what? If you guys win that game, they become deal with it, sunglasses.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly. Yeah, that's just a shit.

Speaker 1 That's really what it is. Now I'm happy we talked this out.
It's not the sunglasses. It's the loss in the sunglasses.

Speaker 7 Yeah, because it gives you

Speaker 7 one more thing to be. Because you know what? You don't want him.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. You don't want him to look cool as you're losing.
Coward? Rodney Harrison just came at Justin Fields on the post-game show for literally no reason for wearing sunglasses.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm disavowing myself. I had no problem with him wearing sunglasses.

Speaker 2 What was your take with Deion?

Speaker 2 It's the same thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I don't think Deion should wear sunglasses when he's coaching. Okay.

Speaker 7 Coaches wear sunglasses all the time.

Speaker 1 But at night.

Speaker 7 Transition lenses.

Speaker 1 Deion does not wear transition lenses.

Speaker 1 Those are not transitional. They are.

Speaker 7 They're just always reflecting.

Speaker 1 It really is.

Speaker 1 As I'm talking this out, it really just comes down to winning and losing. If you win with sunglasses, it's cool.
If you lose with sunglasses, it's like, come on, man.

Speaker 7 It's like painting your nails. Yeah.
If you lose and your nails are painted, then it's like, dude, why are you painting your nails?

Speaker 1 It's like when Brady.

Speaker 7 When you win, it's like, this dude's got swag.

Speaker 1 It's like when Brady Hoke didn't wear a headset on the Michigan sideline. When you lose without a headset, you're a fucking asshole.
When you win without a headset, it's like, oh, he's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's good. No problem.

Speaker 7 You just don't want to give anybody a thing to point at.

Speaker 1 Idiots like me, a thing to point at. Anything to point at.
So I'm disavowing my own take.

Speaker 1 It was a momentary lapse.

Speaker 1 There's going to be, I know that there's going to be, there's people are going to make this take, and I'm going to be like, I don't like these people who are making this take.

Speaker 7 Are the lights too bright for Justin Fields?

Speaker 1 Shit. I put myself in a box with this one.
It's going to be on Monday morning. Stephen Abe's probably going to do it.

Speaker 1 Howard's going to do it. Skip's going to do it.
I hate myself.

Speaker 1 Canel's for sure going to do it. Here's the thing is.
I fucking hate myself.

Speaker 7 Canel is going to be pissed off that he wakes up tomorrow and he didn't have this take first.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I hate myself. All right.
Officially disavowing my own take.

Speaker 1 No problem with the sunglasses.

Speaker 7 You have a problem with the losing.

Speaker 1 Have a problem with the losing and the way we lost because we got our ass kicked. Happy we talked that out.
Okay. Let's finish the show with who's back.

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Speaker 1 World. Hank, who's back of the week?

Speaker 6 Who's back of the week is Francis Nganu.

Speaker 6 Technically, he's not really back.

Speaker 6 Tyson Fury, they boxed Tyson Fury, Francis Nganu this weekend in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's where it was? Yeah, that's where I was. I was wondering what it was in weird times.
I hate that. Every fight, every fight should be in Vegas.

Speaker 6 Yeah, because

Speaker 6 I kind of saw it during the day. I was like, damn, I would have watched this if it was at night.
I don't really like the

Speaker 6 Logan Paul boxing. Those don't really draw my interest too much, but like Tyson Fury, just two big men fighting is what you want to see.
Too heavyweights.

Speaker 1 Francis Nganu also has the

Speaker 1 perfect champion fighters. Well, it's also the perfect, like, he's not a boxer, but one punch.
Yeah, and that's why I bought every Mike Tyson pay-per-view after he was completely washed.

Speaker 1 I was like, but what about that one punch?

Speaker 7 And he did get a punch on him.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he got a bunch of punches on him, knocked him down. It was still, you know, he had his energy.
He was fighting till the end. Split decision, but a lot of people were saying that he won.

Speaker 7 So who won? Nancy's back.

Speaker 6 Technically, Tyson Fury won the split decision.

Speaker 6 I've met Nganu's back.

Speaker 7 It was crazy because Tyson Fury always looks a little bit out of shape, but he looked so out of shape next to Nganu. Just like they look like different species.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He did. He was the heaviest he's ever been.
Was he?

Speaker 7 As they said.

Speaker 1 Which

Speaker 1 bullshit for the announcers to say that. Yeah.
But he's the fat as he's ever been.

Speaker 7 But I almost respect that. Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know how cocky you have to be to go into a fight and see your opponent looking like Nganu and saying, you know what? I'm just going to eat a lot. I don't really need to train that much for it.

Speaker 6 Well, maybe Anthony Joshua, I mean, obviously, to train against Anthony Joshua, he probably just didn't train as hard for this, but

Speaker 6 now he's maybe going to do more actual, you know, heavyweight boxing fights. I think

Speaker 6 somewhere at the Fighting Commission was going to rank

Speaker 6 Nagano as a top 10 ranked boxer. So if he fights again, potentially, it could be for a championship.

Speaker 1 This is the whole reason he wanted it out of the UFC or wanted Dana White to give him the ability to do this because he probably made more in this fight than he made at the UFC. His career.

Speaker 1 Definitely. It's crazy.
Okay, good.

Speaker 6 Who's that? Yeah, I saw his brother, Tommy Furry, made like $10 million doing the YouTube fight.

Speaker 1 Jesus. Against KSI.
We should become fighters.

Speaker 1 You were, Hank. Yeah.
Yeah. I got 10K.
But we love tackling football too much. Too much.
Too much.

Speaker 7 Because you know what it'd be a distraction if we started a fight. It's like, is this guy really focused on football?

Speaker 7 All right, PFT, your who's back? My who's back of the week is Flava Flav.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 Flava Flav got brought out at a Bucs game to sing the national anthem. And you know what?

Speaker 7 On a sliding scale of how good I thought Flava Flav would do versus how good he actually did, he knocked it out of the park. Yeah.
He absolutely crushed it. Now, on a scale of...

Speaker 7 people who are actually invited to sing national anthems at professional basketball games, probably like right above Fergie and nobody else.

Speaker 1 I would love to know,

Speaker 6 because whoever made the decision is hilarious. Yeah, agreed.
And I'm sure there was someone on the inside who didn't really, they're like, yeah, Flavor Flave, rapper, sure. Not knowing Flavor Flave.

Speaker 6 And then when they saw this, we're like, why the fuck did we book Flavor Flave to sing the national anthem? Yeah. But it was worth it because it was a very, very funny video.
Yes, it was.

Speaker 1 And he tried. Yeah.
He tried. No, he did a good job.
He did try. For Flava Flave.
For Flame and Flave.

Speaker 7 I think he probably performed as well as he possibly could have.

Speaker 1 Where do you think New York is these days? I love New York.

Speaker 1 I loved her. She was the best.

Speaker 6 That show was on Young Enough. That show in the

Speaker 6 blonde-haired rock star, Keith?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Oh, Rose has his thorn.

Speaker 7 You're talking about Poison. Brett Michaels.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Brett Michaels. Double Shot of Love.
Brett Michaels.

Speaker 1 Was that Rock of Love? Those.

Speaker 6 Oh, maybe it was Rock of Love.

Speaker 1 Double Shot was. I forget.
He was always tequila. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Nazi.

Speaker 1 Those, yeah.

Speaker 6 Problematic.

Speaker 6 Those shows were on when I was young enough where I didn't understand celebrity, and it blew my mind. Where I was like, how

Speaker 6 do these guys have all these girls

Speaker 6 just competing, like flavor flav? Like, who is this guy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. It was the best.

Speaker 7 Brett Michaels used to always walk into a room and just be like, what's the going on? Yeah. That was like his catchphrase.
It was great. I said, what's the going on?

Speaker 7 Like every time I would walk into a room that year's.

Speaker 1 New York versus Pumpkin.

Speaker 1 oh one of the greatest rivalries of all time which she spit on her the best that was a great show VH1 really had a nice little run and the girl that like won ended up dating who

Speaker 1 she had game yeah big time yeah all right my who's back of the week is the World Series two games in

Speaker 1 it was actually very funny because when we were in Madison I offered to buy tickets for everyone and I offered to buy tickets for Max on must have been Monday or Tuesday and he said no.

Speaker 1 This is fake news. Because he thought the Phillies were going to be in the World Series.

Speaker 2 This is fake news. This is fake news.

Speaker 1 Damn. This is just not true.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 This is not true.

Speaker 7 It sounds like it's true with Big Catch S 2. I said that.

Speaker 1 Wait, I wasn't add up.

Speaker 1 When was game seven?

Speaker 1 I asked him on Monday. Game seven was Tuesday.

Speaker 1 And he was like, no, I'm good. I don't want to go to the game.
Correct. Because he looked at the World Series schedule and he said

Speaker 1 Saturday night is

Speaker 1 game two.

Speaker 1 Incorrect. Well, you just

Speaker 2 said that I was going to, that I didn't, I didn't want to go to the game. I didn't want to go into the game.
It was cold. Can't drink at the stadium.

Speaker 9 I wanted to go to the bars.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Like, you just completely made up that narrative that it had to be.

Speaker 1 It had nothing to do with the World Series.

Speaker 2 It had nothing to do with the potential World Series. Okay.

Speaker 1 How was the World Series game two? Didn't watch it. Oh.
At all? Wasn't on at the bar?

Speaker 2 I was watching the Badgers.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 But game one was incredible.

Speaker 1 So it's 1-1. Diamondbacks were rooting for the Diamondbacks.
Our guy Dan Heron. Game one, though.

Speaker 1 The craziest stat ever. So obviously they played another road game last night.
But after game one, the Diamondbacks had played in four Rode World Series games in the history of their franchise.

Speaker 1 And three out of four of them, they had given up a two-run home run in the bottom of the ninth. Yeah,

Speaker 7 there was a wild video. that went out there about George W.
Bush, who threw out the first pitch. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And they did a mashup of George Bush throwing out the first pitch in this game, also in the World Series back when it was in New York, when he threw that heater right down Broadway.

Speaker 7 And then the left-handed home runs that lined up, the opposite field shots that lined up. It was crazy.
We're about to have Iraq War III if this keeps going.

Speaker 1 Ravel also was like, if I'm George Bush, I would never throw another first pitch out because you just ruined the one in 2001. No, he didn't.
No.

Speaker 1 That's still an iconic first pitch that will never be taken away. I don't even remember what his first pitch on Friday night looked like.
He bounced it. Okay.

Speaker 7 But the pitch in 2001 is, I mean, you talk about

Speaker 1 primetime player. He definitely has some type of memorability.
He probably's got like, you know, a piece of the dirt or something.

Speaker 7 And he's got a ticket stub from that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's like, now it's not worth as much because we know that he bounced one. Yeah, but that was a...

Speaker 7 Game one was incredible. And so I was listening.

Speaker 7 I was driving home yesterday and listening to some post-game on it, and Buster Olney was talking about the Diamondbacks pitching staff and their coaches.

Speaker 1 By the way, this is way older than my sunglasses. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I was listening to baseball radio.

Speaker 1 No, baseball post-game.

Speaker 7 Post-game radio, yeah.

Speaker 1 100 old school. 100 old school school school school.
Way older. Oh, you love it.
You love to hear the guys. And they do like a two-hour post-game show.

Speaker 7 And God bless them for figuring out things to talk about baseball for two hours non-stop. But Buster Olney was like, Dan Heron is, he is the pitching architect.
He's the architect.

Speaker 7 You probably heard us talking him up. He's the architect of this Arizona Diamondbacks rotation.

Speaker 1 think he's good i think he has a locker right now he tweeted a picture he should like an analyst locker he should he's the architect fuck we got to get him on i hope they win i hope we can get him on drunk oh yeah it'd be great uh okay jake finish us off your who's back uh my who's back of the week is dylan brooks being a villain first off

Speaker 8 a bronze stopper yeah he got cooked today by steph curry i don't know if you guys saw the highlight i did uh and second off uh when i asked about victor went banyama when they played over the weekend he said he's tall that's really it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love that take. People got math.

Speaker 7 No, I love that take because that's every guy that doesn't actually play basketball. They just point at a guy who's seven feet tall and be like, he's just tall.

Speaker 7 If I was that tall, I'd be a great basketball player, too.

Speaker 1 That's like

Speaker 1 when Shaq in his heyday, when I was a little kid, one of my first worst takes was like, he's just bigger than everyone. He's not that good.

Speaker 7 Yeah, if he wasn't allowed to dunk, he wouldn't be good at basketball.

Speaker 8 I think he's embracing being the villain. I think it's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 you got to be good at basketball to also embrace being the villain. Because if you are bad at basketball and embrace being the villain, you'll just get let it.
What is it, memes?

Speaker 1 What's the meme?

Speaker 8 Get ready to learn Chinese, buddy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Memes.
I needed you there.

Speaker 1 Wait, did you say the Batman line or the ready to learn Chinese? What the fuck? Batman line.

Speaker 7 No, I thought you were saying you either die here or live

Speaker 1 villain. No,

Speaker 1 get ready to learn Chinese.

Speaker 1 That's like one of your go-to memes. That is.
Now it's get ready to learn Canadian when somebody plays bad in the NFL.

Speaker 7 Oh, that's good. Oh, that is good.

Speaker 1 I like that, eh? What about get ready to learn flag football rules?

Speaker 9 Well,

Speaker 9 you could win a gold medal now.

Speaker 1 It's a good thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true.

Speaker 7 Steph Curry did hit him with

Speaker 7 the crazy scream face.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the home alone.

Speaker 1 Okay, good show, boys. Good show.
I think we're going to do a hockey preview on Wednesday. I like it.
Hank, you have to remind Ryan Whitney.

Speaker 1 Okay. Or Mike Crinnell.
Okay.

Speaker 6 Ryan Whitney. On it.

Speaker 1 Everyone tweet Whitney and say, remember, you have to do pardon my take at 2.30 Eastern on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Please tweet him that, a reminder.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank, have you ever gotten this?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 6 That a boy.

Speaker 1 Good answer. Have you? Good answer.
All right, numbers. 3, 18.

Speaker 6 31.

Speaker 1 20.

Speaker 7 31, huh?

Speaker 2 Someone's going to get it today.

Speaker 1 I'll go 70. What's that? 31, Hank.
Someone's going to get it today, Shane.

Speaker 1 10 for Shane.

Speaker 1 Would you go? 31.

Speaker 1 We'll give Evan 69.

Speaker 7 You did it for my birthday?

Speaker 1 Thanks, Hank. Halloween.
You didn't remember your birthday.

Speaker 1 Memes, what was yours? Mine's three. Evan's a 69.
Okay, here we go. Oh, I love that sound.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Sounds like an F-18

Speaker 7 lending both candles.

Speaker 1 17!

Speaker 1 Yes! Oh, no!

Speaker 1 Yes!

Speaker 1 You are such an idiot. Why'd you go 31? You're such an idiot.

Speaker 1 First person in the

Speaker 1 fuck up.

Speaker 1 It would have been a historical selection. That's your number, Hank.
That's your fucking number, dude.

Speaker 1 If you had been the first, it would have killed me.

Speaker 7 You got so cute with it.

Speaker 1 It would have killed me if you were the first. And you were, that's your number.
You guess it every time. And you didn't guess it this time.
And it went 17.

Speaker 7 Why did you take 31, Hank?

Speaker 1 That literally is your number.

Speaker 1 That's insane.

Speaker 1 That's your number.

Speaker 1 You could have been...

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 Do you know how much you could have flexed on us if you had gotten that? A lot instead of any of us? Like, that's your dream scenario. And was 17.

Speaker 1 Why did you go 31?

Speaker 7 I don't even want to say it.

Speaker 1 No, you said it. No, you have to say it.
Because you have to blame something.

Speaker 7 You have to say it.

Speaker 2 Stoolee gave you the number. I guess the black column is.

Speaker 1 He's never going to end it now.

Speaker 1 There's just some fucking dickhead who just keeps DMing me. Yep.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 I'm playing.

Speaker 2 He can't even hear me.

Speaker 1 Hank's the the worst. Hank's.
Hank's

Speaker 1 stick.

Speaker 7 Hank's worst. Hank's worst.
Hank, why did you do that?

Speaker 1 Wow. You know what? We could do one more.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it could count. Hank, you want to do one more?

Speaker 1 Nah.

Speaker 7 I don't think we should. Nah, we won't.

Speaker 1 I'll do one. It doesn't count.
I just want to see.

Speaker 1 We want 17 again.

Speaker 1 Oh, I wish it was 31.

Speaker 1 Hank, that's brutal, dude.

Speaker 1 That's brutal. Tommy count, though.
Tommy got you. Tommy.
Why would you listen to Tommy Smokes?

Speaker 6 Not Tommy Smokes.

Speaker 7 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Damn, Hank.

Speaker 1 You're not going to sleep tonight.

Speaker 1 That's so brutal.

Speaker 1 That fucking rock.

Speaker 1 Joking away.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say I've changed away.

Speaker 1 Today's a matter of the day to find you. Talking away.

Speaker 1 I'm the one.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying I've taken away.

Speaker 1 Today's a matter of day to find you. Shining away.

Speaker 1 I've been coming for your love up, coming for your love up.

Speaker 1 Don't

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 a

Speaker 1 begun

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 as you say.

Speaker 1 I'm all designed,

Speaker 1 but he stole a little bit.

Speaker 1 No, it's

Speaker 1 It's everything.

Speaker 1 Say I'm me.

Speaker 1 My life's no better. To be safe inside.
To be safe inside.

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone.

Speaker 1 Let me fill up

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