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Part of my take Yeah Part of my take Yeah Part of my take Yeah Part of my take Yeah Part of my take Welcome to Part of my. Today is Monday, October 30th, week 8.
First whoop in the new studio. Some spread.
We start in Pittsburgh, where Travis ATN News Network Wamsgand gained his way to a tough 74 yards on Sunday as Trevor Laurent is too damn high, is issuing eviction notices to all the hashtag analysts as he commanded the Jaguars offense on a wet, sloppy day. Najee by nature said, you down with OPP? Which today stands for ouch painful picket as he left the game with a rib injury.
Doug P.E.D. Erson was coaching with extra T as the Jaguars.
Yes, the Jaguars have won five straight football games. Jaguars 20, Steelers 10.
We head over to D.C. where Sam Halloween came dressed as a franchise quarterback, throwing for four touchdowns with only one sack of candy.
Jalen Hurts got out of his garfunkel singing Me and Julio down by the schoolyard as Jones scored his first touchdown in the Eagles jersey. And Ron Rivera is such a bad coach, it should be against the law.
It was against the law because he's on his way. I don't know where he's going.
As KJ Brown absolutely loved Emmanuel Forbes man-to-man, leaving Raul John happy with a win. The Eagles, 34.
The Commanders, 31. Downed, it was 38-31.
We got a producer who's giving a little confused look like, The Eagles scored 38 points. The Washington Commanders scored 31 points.
Unfortunately, teacher. Our producer said, you want to fucking go? He said, you want to fucking go? You just wait for the playoffs.
I look ridiculous. You don't want to see these commanders in the playoffs if you're a dirty bird.
Down to Big D where Daxian Bronson Prescott looked Albanian as Sean McVay said, hey, you're a peeing all over me. The Cowboys took one look at the Rams secondary on Sunday and said, fuck, that's delicious.
Doron DeSantis-Bland had quarterbacks in Guantanamo this year, scoring his third pick six on the season. And Dallas showed a lot of force gumption.
As Mike McCarthy said, I think you should throw the ball. I think you should throw the ball to CeeDee Al-Alamo.
And they did for 158 yards and two scores. Cowboys 43, Rams 20.
I started to slip into a Brandon Walker. I was going to walk it.
Wah! Wah! Wah! Up to Green Bay where the Packers missed their best good friend Bubba, Franks, as they were without a tight end again. And Green Bay fans said, I'm not a very smart man, J'Nay, but I know what love is and he stinks.
As the Packers took another shot directly in the buttocks on their season.

The big story from this game was the unfortunate injury to Kirk Cousins.

But if there's one guy who knows how to look after the welfare of a rich man like Vikings owner Ziggy Wilf,

it's the old gunslinger himself, Brett Favre,

who would be happy to take a break from his busy schedule of building volleyball stadiums

to defraud the Vikings for the tune of a couple million dollars.

The Vikings, 24. The Packers, 10.

In Nashville, where DeAndre I. Hopkins isn't waffling anymore, serving up a short stack with three scores.

After skipping work for the last couple of months, Derek Henry Lockwood has officially returned and will be working every weekend for at least the next three months. Round of applause.
He's doing his job. It's incredible.
It's the work balance boom. Titan fans are riding a huge will, though, after their rookie quarterback threw four touchdowns on the way to a win.
Titans 28, Falcons 23. Whoop, whoop.
Down to Miami, where McLemore Jones found his game at the thrift shop. As he said, when I was in third grade, I thought I could play.
As for Alabama, I wish I could stay. Juju Smith, Amy Schuster seems to have lost his role as the new play thing.
And a waddle of red, a waddle of white, as Tyreek, Hilly, Joel, and company continue to put out hit after hit. And Bill Belichick looked like he was going to have a heart attack, mac, mac, mac, mac, to I don't know by now.
The Patriots suck. Dolphins 31, the Patriots 17.
To the desert where Todd Munkin Donuts glazed the Cardinals and gave them a cream pie filling. Gus Johnson Edwards teamed up with LaMazerati driving his car into the end zone three times on Sunday.
The Cardinals made a furious comeback late when Trey Danny McBride said, I play real sports, not trying to be the best at exercising as he bullied his way into the end zone. But it was all for naught

as Squash Dobbs turned back into a pumpkin

and Harbaugh's team played like a bunch of stallions.

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Ravens 31.

Cardinals 24.

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What?

Over to Mile High where Pat Sick Mahomes had the flu.

He had COVID?

No, he had the flu.

Oh, so COVID. And Brussel Wilson didn didn't look good but he was packed with vitamins as he hooked up with courtland let's

give him something to talk about for a touchdown jaquan mcmillion dollars worth a game made this

loss very tough to wallow and for the first time since my good friend barack obama was president

the broncos beat the chiefs they never did it when my good friend donald trump was president

I'm going to go ahead and get it. For the first time since my good friend Barack Obama was president.
The Broncos beat the Chiefs. They never did it when my good friend Donald Trump was president.
Or when my very good friend Joe Biden was asleep at the wheel. Broncos 21.
Chiefs 9. Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston down in NOLA.
a fine sight to see It's Olave, my lord, speeding in his four Getting pulled over by the NOPD Come on, Minshew Stop throwing picks, dude Success isn't owned in sleaze And And now the Rands do. Saints go marching 38 27.
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We're on Blake watch right now. When you say ate, do you mean it was alive or dead? It was dead.
It was dead. Swallowed whole? He picked it up out of the grass, and then he started chewing something.
I was like, Blake, get over here. And then he looked at me, and then he just swallowed.
Oh. Yeah.
Oh, okay. He's fine.
Yeah, he'll be fine. He's a growing boy.
A lot of protein in a rack. Yeah, exactly.
All right. Let's get into the games.
I would say the most important, not most important game, but most important story from week eight is the first game, Vikings 24, Packers 10, and it is because of the Kirk Cousins injury, which sucks beyond belief. Kirk Cousins tears his Achilles.
He is going to be a free agent next year.

He also was playing awesome ball. Like he was on the precipice of being in the MVP conversation because the Vikings started to win games.
They've what they're now four and three. Like they've rattled off some pretty nice wins or four and four.
And it all comes crashing down with the Achilles. I genuinely feel terrible because we've had a long history with Kirk Cousins on this podcast where we've made some jokes, but I think the last year or so we've appreciated him more than made jokes, and it sucks to see this happen when he was playing great football.
Yeah, Kirk Cousins, he's a very nice guy. And so if you know him he's like impossible to root against you get frustrated with him sometimes but I do feel bad for I never thought it would feel bad for Kirk on like the brink of another free agency because he's you know he's going to make a lot of money but this is pretty bad timing as far as that goes and I think it's more bad timing just because the Vikings were to start the season I mean they were my pinky were my pinky team, to start the season, it couldn't have gone worse.
And the way they've played in the last month, they are, with the wide openness of the NFC, like, they were probably going to be a playoff team. Yeah.
You know, they were winning games without Justin Jefferson. Their defense was playing well.
Daniil Hunter's leading the league in sacks. Like, all these things were starting to come into place for the Vikings, and then this happens.
It's a bummer it is it's a very big bummer i'm going to quote florio here because he asked a very interesting question he said am i the only one thinking that the vikings should call tom brady i think he might be the only one yeah he might be because you can you can get your retweets off you can get your cloud up in the event that any quarterback is injured just by being like, where's Colin Kaepernick? That seems like an easy one to do. You can do, where's Tim Tebow? But going straight to Tom Brady for the Vikings.
If the Vikings were 8-0, do you think that Tom Brady would entertain it? Let's ask Hank, the Tom Brady whisperer. I don't.
The Vikings receivers are phenomenal. They're winning games without Justin Jefferson, like I said.
Jordan Addison, when we do our rankings of best position groups all time, it's probably going to be Vikings receivers because it feels like they just get generational talent after generational talent. Justin Jefferson is that generational talent, and Jordan Addison is really damn good and has been really damn good in his first seven starts or eight starts.
Yeah, I think Tom Brady, if they were eight and O, he would at least take the call. I think he would.
He would take the call. He would take it.
He would take the call. Yeah, he'd be like, hey, what's up? And then he'd say, thanks for the call.
No. Oh, I don't know about that.
Okay. If they were eight and O, Hank? Minnesota? Yeah.
Winning a Super Bowl for the first time in the franchise history? As he was taking the call, he would open his phone, look at the weather app,

and be like, Minnesota. Oh, yeah, because they play outside, right?

Yeah, but just living in Minnesota.

Yeah, Tom Brady would never live in a cold weather area.

That doesn't sound like something he would do.

He'd have to live in Minnesota for three months.

I don't think he would do it.

Okay.

I think he'd take the call.

He'd definitely take the call.

He would take the call, and he'd say, I'm interested.

What number?

And then he'd be like, yeah, I can't do that. Yeah.
Sorry. But maybe if Justin Jefferson called him.
What are the Vikings going to do? So Jaren Hall, sorry, BYU, I believe. Yep.
Because I bet on him and then Puka didn't play and I got smoked. These are bad memories.
Jaren Hall, back up. Who are they going to,lor heineke i've got i've got a couple answers for him okay because i have a few i have a few names as well okay taylor heineke is one yeah they should definitely inquire about him uh another one colt mccoy and we i keep trying to press colt mccoy back into the league i wanted to see him on the jets when when aaron rogers went down.
I feel like Colt McCoy would be a good answer there.

Let's see who else.

Oh, Kyle Slaughter.

Kyle Slaughter, you had the best preseason quarterback of all time

playing on your team.

Give Kyle Slaughter a shot.

So like Florio being the only one to mention Tom Brady,

you were definitely the only one to mention Kyle Slaughter.

I am 100%, but they should be mentioning him.

Kyle Slaughter is a good player.

He is a good football player.

Give him a shot. Yeah.
Jacoby Brissett for sure. Yeah.
I was going to say Justin Fields. That would be, I think, Tyson.
Maybe Tyson Bajan. Maybe.
Maybe they've seen enough of him. I'd like to see Brett Favre come back just for one game and have him get absolutely destroyed.
Yeah. Just wrecked.
Have him play against the Saints again and have him get just his face mask shoved into his nose that would be fun what if what if what if the titans sold as high as you possibly can sell on will levis yeah i don't hate that phenomenal today tannahill you could probably get tannahill for the rest of that's kirk cousins adjacent yeah it's actually not a bad idea like kirk cousins with if he had like a partially torn Achilles, that's what you're getting. If there was anyone to take this role for the Vikings, I would like it to be a Derek Carr, Ryan Tannehill, or Jimmy G.
What about this? Trade for Aaron Rodgers. Oh.
Because the Jets are hot right now with Zach Wilson. Faster timeline on his Achilles.
Exactly. Get him back.
We finished the whole process here. Get him in Minnesota.
Yeah. And that would actually complete the Aaron Rodgers to Brett Favre.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Yeah. That's what they should do.
Memes, what do you say? Do it. Fuck that.
You like Zach Wilson, don't you? Memes is feeling himself right now. The Jets, he's feeling himself.
Yeah, it was a barn burner today. He's walking around with his chest puffed out.
Either way, the Vikings are playing great ball and now we don't know what's going to happen because it sucks a lot and they went into Lambeau and that was never a game and that's the other part of this story. I foolishly thought this was the spot to back the Packers because it was the Vikings off a big win against the Niners.
The Packers look terrible. Turns out the Packers are just dog shit.
They're just a dog shit team. They're bad.
Did you know that this was, it continues a 32-year winless streak against the Vikings by the Packers unless they have Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre playing? It's a long time that they haven't beat the Vikings. Without Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre yeah I have

some um I think they call them insult stats uh you know we I I somehow at or am at the end of a lot of insult stats with the Bears I found a couple funny insult stats that I wanted to share with you PFT okay um kind of a ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun situation uh the Brewers who got swept in the wild card have more wins in october than the green bay packers oh wow that is interesting one to zero yeah that's interesting right it's very interesting the bucks who i think the bucks played tonight so it doesn't really matter because they were one to know going in tonight their season started like four days ago uh the bucks have have more wins in October than the Packers have touchdowns in the first half of all of October. That's crazy.
The Packers haven't scored a touchdown in ten consecutive first quarter halves. First quarters.
First quarter halves. Yes.
First and second quarter five straight games. They have not scored a first half touchdown.
There's no way that's right. It's right.
It's right. And I'm actually going to have Shane put these on a little graphic for me.
I'm going to tweet him out. It's going to be great.
I also found one other insult stat that kind of goes back and insults me, but I'm going to say it anyway. PFT, did you know that Aaron Rodgers in 2018 and 2019 combined those

two seasons so

32 games

he had six interceptions

Jordan Love in seven games has

eight interceptions that doesn't sound

like a good sign at all for

the Green Bay Packers that's pretty bad they gotta

actually give Jordan listen Jordan Love he doesn't

have an offensive line the kids got talent

you gotta maybe extend

them give them some more years

I'm going to throw in one other insult stat, but I'm not going to. Do it.
Do it. Well, no, you're not going to like this.
Oh, you're going to insult me? Yeah. Well, it's going to be a double.
Why would you do that? Go ahead. That's why I'm not going.
Go ahead. I won't do it.
No, fair is fair. I won't do it.
Fair is fair. It's just interesting because the Packers just stink, and it's going to take a while for my brain to realize that they stink, but they fucking suck.
I was just going to say, you know what? You know what? Wisconsin's won two games in October. Oh, okay.
Yeah, they've won two. They've won two.
Hey, well, guess what? The Badgers are bowl eligible. Yeah, there you go.
The Packers are not. Is JMU? We'll see.
We're going to wait until all the facts come out on that one. Oh, okay.
We're playing for a bowl. Where are you guys ranked? I'm trying to look at.
I don't see a number next year. I mean, you guys are playing Sunbelt teams.
23. Your best win is Virginia.
It looks like 23. Who beat UNC? Pretty good.
Who lost to Georgia Tech? Georgia Tech's a good football program. UNC.
Great football program. The shine has come off UNC very quickly.
We'll talk college football on Wednesday. But yeah, the Packers are bad.
They're officially a bad team. They are.
Like, there's no. They're just, they're a bummer.
Yeah. They're no fun to watch.
Isn't that crazy, though? 10 first quarter, or sorry, first half quarters, they have not scored a touchdown. Yeah, that is crazy.
That's so bad to start out every single game. That's even including a bye week where you'd think they'd come out hot and everything dialed up.
No. They just put themselves in holes, and then Jordan Love tries to get them out until he throws an interception.
So here's one stat that I saw that I didn't believe at first because when you think of the Minnesota Vikings, you don't think of perennial winners, perennial closeout guys on the Vikings. But they're 52-1 when they lead in the fourth quarter in their last 53 games.
That's pretty crazy, isn't it? Yeah, that is pretty crazy. Their one loss is the Blair Walsh game where he missed, what was that, like a 30-yarder? Yeah, against the Seahawks in that game when it was like zero degrees but the Vikings just don't lose if they're if they have a lead in the fourth quarter they will win the game wow that is actually a pretty impressive it's wild right because you don't think of the Vikings as being like they'll stop they'll stomp on your throat yeah don't give them a lead in the fourth quarter yeah you think the Vikings playing like weird close games but no if they have a lead in the fourth they will they will kill you i i don't know what like i was looking at the viking schedule i still think if they can get even anything out of jaron hall like it's gonna be tough because kurt cousins was playing great but they they still could salvage some of their season it will be interesting because now what we're one day away from the trade deadline i think it's tuesday so Is it Monday or is it Tuesday? So they might start trying to unload some things.
I got another guy, Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah.
Bring him home. Yeah.
He's in Detroit right now. We're in number 50.
That would actually be perfect. It would be cool, wouldn't it? Tuesday, 4 p.m.
Eastern. Tyson Bajan just threw his third interception of the game.
He might not be the guy. He might not be the guy.
That's okay. He's a fun guy, though.
We tested it. It's actually better.
You know what? Ha-ha. I'm laughing.
You're trying for a draft pick. You're trying for the first overall pick.
Well, not only that, but you don't want to have a QB controversy. It gets all messy, and people gotta take sides, and people gotta argue, and you basically have to walk around and have this conversation everywhere you go.
No, it's fine. He's not...
He's a fun moxieie guy and he might be a backup for a very long time he he might have the it factor yeah that doesn't mean that he's good right but he's got the it factor right he gets rid of the ball quickly uh okay so uh next game next game eagles 38 commanders 31 i'll start with some eagles stats and then you can tell us pft how you're feeling uh aj brown is absolutely ridiculous after the week two win against the vikings when he was seen uh arguing with jalen hurts on the sideline remember jalen hurts had to answer questions in the media aj brown didn't speak to the media since that moment he has had over 125 yards in six straight games and that is an nfl record it's absolutely ridiculous how good he is and the eagles are better than the commanders although the commanders play him well yeah i think that's probably a fair thing to say it's going to be a close game so that's why max you don't want to see us in the playoffs if we make as as the uh what six seed if we get in there as a six seed and you guys are well no then you'd be trying to remember how the seeding works there you don't want to play us and they have to be a two seed you'd be a seven seed and then you don't want to play us yeah that's that's a fact uh sam howell had a great day today sam howell looked until he did this is well he threw one bad interception but he also could have won the game a couple times terry mclaurin had bad drops. I'm more concerned about what it is Ron Rivera does on this team.
There was a moment when the Eagles were driving. It was fourth and four.
They completed a pass to Devontae Smith. Ball hits the ground.
They rule it a catch on the field. Rivera stands there on the sidelines with his transition lenses darkening, depending on whatever his mood is at the time.
It's like a mood ring for his eyes. Doesn't do anything.
Doesn't say anything. The Eagles sprint up to the ball.
They run a play like really, really fast, get the snap off. Then they asked Rivera after the game why he didn't challenge.
And he said, well, I didn't see the replay on the Jumbotron, so I didn't want to throw my flag. Fair answer.
Is that how we're running things now. Where your coach waits to see it on the Jumbotron and decides whether or not to throw a flag.

And he's like, and then the Eagles are sprinting up to the ball,

trying to run a snap, and so I ran out of time to throw.

Why do you think they were sprinting up to the ball, Ron?

What do you do here?

What does Ron Rivera do here is my big question.

Verbal meme, Michigan State and Ron Rivera, the Jumbotron let us down.

It did.

It did. The Jumbotron let us down.
did yeah it did the jumbotron let us down ron rivera let us down it was it's bad uh we're going to be probably trading away either sweat or young by this time tomorrow when the show comes out i heard maybe bears i've i've just reached the point where i i will be rooting for whatever team gets young or sweat yeah it's like root for your guys that's why i like cheering for trent williams when you're a really bad team you develop all these different layers of cope yeah and all these different habits that you pick up through years of ineptitude and one of my favorite ones is just rooting for guys that i used to root for but i tell myself you know what it's more about these guys that were there's so much a part of the fabric of the community big cat when they were around you want to see them do well yeah go somewhere else which is why i was so disappointed when trey turner and bryce harper got out in the ninth inning that was tough for me personally as just a fan of the community this is mean what you're doing um but no congrats max you guys you guys are a better team although sam how i do think so here's where i'm at with sam how sam how is the guy he's he. He played very well today.
He is the guy. He was Peyton Manning.
He was amazing today. He might have been the best quarterback in the NFL this entire week.
Like, he was that good. Will Levis.
He was fun to watch. Will Levis was – yeah, he was really, really good.
Jalen Hurts did okay. No.
Is he all right? Is he, like, fully – Jalen Hurts played very well. Jalen Hurts played very well.
played very well. He did play very well.
324 touchdowns. Yeah.
No, he played very well, but he's not healthy. No, but that just goes to show how the heart of a lion that guy has.
That's my guy. That's my quarterback.
You can tell that he's not 100% right now. Mostly getting on and off the field.
He's hobbling to the sideline every time.

But he just goes out there and takes hits and wins football games.

That's your guy.

You have his back.

If anyone says they hope Jalen Hurts gets hurt,

Max will just sit there on his hands and do absolutely nothing.

That's how much of a his guy he is.

That's not true.

That's exactly what happens.

Stern speaking to.

And he'll also think about what he should have said two days later.

And then he'll say that.

Jerk store shit.

They're... That's not true.
That's exactly what happens. Stern speaking to.
And he'll also think about what he should have said two days later. And then he'll say that.
Jerk store shit. I thought, yes.
The French actually have a term for that. They call it staircase wit, where you make it down the staircase, and you're like, ah, that's what I should have said.
That's what I should have said. I'm going to go back up.
But, yeah, congrats, Max. Eagles were, I think, a better overall team today, definitely.
Our offensive line played really well, though. Yeah, the only one sack.
Yeah, it was cool. When you give Sam Howell time, he can absolutely pick you apart.
The Eagles took advantage of a ridiculously bad defense. And if you're Ron Rivera and you and Jack Del Rio are apparently in charge of this defense, do you think that the best way to get the confidence of your first-round pickup is to send him in man-to-man coverage with A.J.
Brown again?

That's exactly where he lost all of his confidence.

Let's go out there and let's get Emmanuel Forbes torched again on the outside.

Played him tough.

The Eagles are a very good team.

Very good team, Max.

I also think this is the second time we've played the Commanders. I've only watched Commanders from start to finish two times.
Commanders look like a good football team to me. I've only watched Commanders start to finish once.
They sucked. Yeah, the Bears.
True. I've said this before.
The Commanders have a lot of really good players. They just, as a cohesive team, don't play good football.

They have guys that are really, really fucking good at football,

and then when you put them all together and have them stand

on the same side of the field, it's like, wait, what happened?

Terry McLaurin and Jahan Dotson are great.

Brian Robinson is awesome.

Logan Thomas is good.

Sam Howell is good.

Their defensive line is good.

What do you think the common denominator in all of this is? Coach. It might be the coach.
It might be the coach. It might be Ron.
It might be the coach. Ron just needs more time.
In defense of Ron Rivera, it's probably got to be a weird feeling to have ownership change, know you're going to get fired. Everyone's had a job where they know, we know where this is going.
We know where this is heading. It's kind of like Hank right now with Barstool.
Like, we know where it's heading. We'll take our time off.
We just aren't going to, like, put in a lot of effort. What? You're doing your best Ron Rivera impression right now.
I'm not talking. You're not talking.
No, but it is, like, if anything, Ron Rivera should be commended as being a relatable guy. Like, you've had a job that you know that it's not going to work out long term, and you kind of just mail it in.
He's been checked out for, I'd say, like a year and a half. Yeah.
So his job was basically to bring in some sense of stability to the organization because when Snyder was running the team, it was like every other week was a dumpster fire of epic proportions. And Rivera's job was just to go up there and be like, say the word like certainly a lot.
Like we're certainly going to look into a lot of these things, and certainly this is a tough job, and you've got to keep your eye on the big picture here. And certainly as a head coach, that's what I'm going to do.
He's very good at saying he's like Roger Goodell in coach form. Is there a chance? Because I think the change of ownership, Ron Rivera knows how this works.
Once the owner gets changed, he's going to bring in his own guys. He's going to let the year play out.
Is there a chance Ron Rivera's an AWL and he stopped trying because PFT kept on saying that the deal has been done for the last year and a half? The timelines match up. There's a chance.
The timelines match up. No, we saw him on the side of the road that time, and he wouldn't get in the car.

Well, I mean, we also were like six deep in a car,

and we're like, hey, Ron, coach, get in the car.

Yeah, but you know what?

But if he was an AWL, he'd be like, oh, shit.

Mike McDaniel would have gotten in the car.

Yeah, that's true.

Like a fun coach would have done.

He would have sat on our lap.

Yeah, for sure.

We could just squeeze him in the trunk.

Vrabel would have jumped on the roof.

Vrabel would have stole our car.

Yeah, he'd have been like, this is my car now.

Yeah.

Rivera was just walking, sadly, by himself at the combine combine like five blocks away from where any events were happening that was that should have been a clue where he probably was just going on a walk clearing his mind being like what so i need to sell my house soon i gotta get down on the market hire a realtor my kids might have to switch schools no but he probably was walking by himself being like this pft guy said the deal was done he put on t he put T-shirts out, and the deal hasn't been done. What are we doing here? I was right.
I was right. So, yeah, Rivera, he knew that he was going into the season too because he gave a preseason press conference where he said, you know, this is a very tumultuous time for the franchise, and I don't know if I'm going to be here next year.
So my is to set the team up with uh as good players he he sounded like he was checked out already once the season started and he's certainly coached like a guy that's that's 100 checked out on everything yeah um so i don't know what josh harris's mo is max maybe you can tell me as you know he owns the 76ers he's done i think a great job he got an mv got an MVP there. I would love an MVP for the Commanders.
Almost Eastern Conference final appearance. Yeah.
He has the confetti ready to go at any given time. But I'm just curious to know, from your perspective, will he fire a coach? Well, I guess he didn't fire Doc Rivers midseason, did he? How's Max been owned this much while we're talking about his 7-1 team? This is all I have.
The best team in the NFL right now, record-wise, and we're just finding a way to just twist the knife on him. It's all I have.
I'm trying to deflect from the fact that I have to get a perm. Max.
Yes. Okay.
Yeah, you do have to get a perm. You do have to get a perm.
Where does one go to get a perm? Sport Clips. Sport Clips, okay.
Yeah. They'll perm you up.
I'm going to get so fucking permed. Perm Edwards.
Yeah,wards yeah you're gonna look great max uh i will give you a chance here you're seven and one jalen hurts is hurt uh dallas this week that's the we're on to dallas we're on to dallas so how are you feeling overall about the eagles like just keep stay as healthy as you can and keep winning games winning this week would be would be huge because then you've got the bye coming up next week. You've got to get healthy.
I still think there's probably going to be a move or two. I don't want to say it.
No, say it. It's a podcast.
Just say it. We may go after Derrick Henry.
Oh. Okay.
You do think that every good player belongs to you. You're the Yankees.
You. You're the Yankees.
Yes. Yes.
And that is – well, those were rumors that were coming out. Great Kelly Green.
Those were rumors that were coming out like last week, and then Kenneth Gainwell had the big fumble today, and they obviously don't want to put too much on DeAndre Swift, so they want to go two backs. But if Kenneth Gainwell is not going to be the guy and Derrick Henry's available...

What about Jonathan Taylor?

Well, he just signed a new deal.

Did you see the...

I don't know if it's 100% true or not

that Kenneth Gainwell was replying to DMs during halftime.

Is this true?

Oh, no, Max.

I did not see that, but I mean,

I said I literally never want to see Kenneth Gainwell again.

And then he actually had a pretty decent game after that fumble,

but I still would...

You never want to see him again?

You want him to die?

On the football field.

Oh, yeah. I said I literally never want to see Kenneth Gagnon again.
And then he actually had a pretty decent game after that fumble. But I still would.
You never want to see him again? You want him to die? On the football field. What kind of DMs are we talking about, Hank? The guy said, hold on to the football, you fucking bum.
Agreed. At 206.
Wait, are these from Philly Max Delente? I think so. And then he replied, little boy, don't text me.
Little boy. That sounds like a Jersey Jerry DM.
That was a little boy play. Yeah.
That phone was a little boy play. Okay.
So no more Kenneth Gainwell. Yeah.
And beat Dallas. And beat Dallas.
Beat Dallas. That's going to be a fun game.
Yeah. It's a scary game, but it's at home.
Apparently the get in price is $500 right now. Well, probably less than that on game time.
Yeah. Game time.
Last minute deal. You'll be fine.
I got, it's a scary game, but it's at home. Apparently, the get-in price is $500 right now.

Probably less than that on Game Time.

Well, yeah, Game Time, last-minute deal.

You'll be fine.

I have a hypothetical.

I verbalized this during the game, but I want to get everybody's opinion on this because I was thinking about we were watching the Browns game

simultaneous to when the Commanders are playing the Eagles.

We have a very good backup quarterback on our team, Jacoby Brissett.

He has some history in Cleveland. He was pretty good for the Browns they love him there if you were the Browns would you take a trade Jacoby Brissett for Deshaun Watson straight up right now if it meant that the commanders would have to take on Deshaun Watson's entire salary would you like wash your, wash your hands of Deshaun, no pun intended, and move on and say, okay, we're going to cut our losses.
Deshaun, there's a lot of money tied up for him. We know that Jacoby is, like, an average to maybe slightly above average quarterback.
Maybe. It sounds ridiculous to say because Deshaun Watson is, like, obviously his upside is way, way better than Jacoby Brissett's.
But there's definitely a part of that front office that is like, we really fucked up with this contract. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't think they would.
No. You don't think so? No.
Would the commanders want that? No. I'm saying I don't want it.
You don't like Sam Howe. I said I don't want it, Max.
Good point, Max. I have seen Sam Howell play two football games very, very well.
I think Sam Howell is a good quarterback. Yes.
You're not sold on him. What did I just say? Is Sam Howell the guy? What did I say five minutes ago? No, you keep saying the guy.
I just know. Rewind the tape.
You guys are putting words in my mouth. I just said Sam Howell is the guy.
But you don't say it with your heart. Sam Howell is the fucking guy.
He's the most guy ever. He is the guy.
The guy. The guy.
How he played today is better than I've seen a Washington quarterback play probably since like RG3's rookie year. Kirk Cousins.
Kirk Cousins had some nice games in there. I would much rather have

if you would ask me next season, Sam

Howell or bring Kirk back. It's coming

home. Well, yeah.
Sam Howell.

What about Sam Howell or Deshaun? Sam Howell.

What about Sam Howell or Caleb Williams?

Sam Howell. Sam Howell or

Drake May. I don't know yet.
Okay. They're such good

friends. They would probably want to play together.

Okay. I think Sam Howell is

the fucking guy. Okay.
I'm happy. Not only is only see the guy he's the goddamn motherfucking guy bitch okay okay all right okay is that good enough for you max it's good enough for me listen hey you know what you know what you've done thank you max thank you for doing this because now i have realized that this season is a massive dub for me because you found

a quarterback I have the guy on your quarterback I have the quarterback that's I had no illusion of

making the playoffs maybe soupy creeped in my brain at one point but going into the season I

did not think we were going to make the playoffs I did not have any expectation for it we just got

a new owner who rocks our old owner is off somewhere probably like I don't know drowning

in the Mediterranean and we have a quarterback a franchise quarterback I am happy with that

Thank you. new owner who rocks our old owner is off somewhere probably like i don't know drowning in the mediterranean and we have a quarterback a franchise quarterback i am happy with that i'm very very happy i'm so happy yeah this has been i basically won the super bowl it's it's definitely when you found your guy like talking yourself into it for like three minutes like this that definitely happens yeah he's the guy and also bringing up hypothetical trade situations where you trade for a bad quarterback.
And a bad person. That was mostly.
A double whammy. That's what I'm saying.
That's how soured I think the Browns are on this whole situation to the point where they would even entertain doing that. If they meant get Jacoby Brissett back.
I don't know. Maybe Browns fans would think that that would be insane.
But they do want Jacoby Brissett back. That was more about that side of the equation, not about my side, because I do not want Deshaun.
Yeah, it seemed exactly like that. Okay, it is.
It is? If the commanders trade for Deshaun Watson, I won't watch another commander's game while he's a quarterback. How about that? Wow.
How about that? That's huge. Don't want him.
Take a stand. Don't want to.
Many people in the media are talking about the commanders potentially trading for Deshaun Watson. I'm just going to say I don't want to want to want to want to want to want to OK next game.
Oh the push push failed. That was awesome.
Fumble. Yeah, you know that's a failure that's a fumble is a failure.
The fumble is a failure. I think that actually was smart by the Eagles.
Like, you know, you got to fail a couple times. That way the Stephen Chase of the world can stop crying about this play working all the time.
And then the fake tush-push was also sick. Yeah.
So not the worst idea if the Eagles, like, threw in a couple fuck-ups here and there. A couple wrinkles to the system.
I still like the play. Yeah, I do too.
It's a good play. And you've seen teams try to copy it, and it's just not the same.
It's truly football. Okay, next one.
Jaguars 20, Steelers 10. The Jacksonville Jaguars have won five games in a row in a wet, sloppy game where Kenny Pickett goes out with an injury.
Mitch Trisky comes in, didn't play great. Did the Bears just get the football? They're down 17.
Maybe they did. My big takeaway from this game is that the Steelers have a recipe with this Steelers team on how to win games.
And it's to make it ugly, play defense, and then have this heroic fourth quarter, like couple balls bounce your way, and all of a sudden you're winning the game. When the recipe works like three quarters of the way, and then it fails in the fourth because, you know, Kenny got hurt, they just look like a bad football team.
Yeah. Because you watch the whole game saying, oh, it's only a seven-point game.
Ooh, Steelers are in this game. And then when it doesn't happen, you're like, oh, so you guys were just never planning on scoring? Yeah, the entire game, it was like the Steelers got them right where they want them.
Right where they want them. Right where they want them.
Oh, wait, shit, the game's over. Yeah, and then so without the actual ending that the Steelers have become accustomed to, it's like, oh, wait, they actually kind of stink.
Well, it wasn't really the Steelers that lost the game, according to Deontay Johnson. It was the referees actually did.
Yes. So he said, I know that we don't blame losses on the refs, but they was calling some stupid stuff.
They should get fined for calling bad, making worse, terrible calls and stuff like that. That's how pissed I am.
They cost us the game. I don't care what nobody says.
They cost us the game. So I actually agree.
He said they must have got paid good today or something. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't disagree with Deay johnson that refs should be fined if they fuck up calls yes and the fine should be public yes it should be uh a public like town square throwing tomatoes at their face or yeah they could they could do that way or they could get on like a big like duck boat and go through pittsburgh and just throw a bunch of like throw their cash out in ones yeah anybody any Steelers fan that wants to pick it up uh the Jaguars are just a good football team so five in a row and yeah I think they are a very good football team pick hashtag Pete Prisco was right yeah uh they look they're playing great football they do get the Niners a bye next, so that will be a good test for them.

But even in a wet, sloppy game, Trevor Lawrence didn't have his best game.

You know what?

Urban Meyer, smart.

Travis Etienne, he drafted him in the first round.

Everyone's like, you don't draft running back.

That guy fucking is good at football.

Yeah, he is.

He won them that game. There was that one catch that he had, though, where he just decelerated as he was trying to sprint to the end zone.
I've never seen a player get slower, faster than Travis Etienne did on that one. But yeah, he was he was like running through the secondary all afternoon.
And the Jaguars defense has been playing great ball. Like, I yeah, I think I think it's now become because every time a team like the Jaguars, like the Jaguars or the Browns, the Bears ever get good again.
Like, there's certain franchises where if they get even the Lions right now, if they play good football, I think our natural belief is like, well, no, it's the Jaguars. They can't be good.
No, no, they're good. They're just a good football team.
It's no longer. Yeah, it's just the Jaguars.
They're a good football team. They are very good.
Yeah, I would say they're just a good football team it's no longer yeah it's just the jaguars they're a good football team they are very good yeah i would say they're a very good football team yeah and trevor lawrence he walked back his terrible towel comments which i was a little bit disappointed to see if you go into pittsburgh and you beat them after insulting the terrible towel you should then take that towel and do like what the titans did stomp on it well wipe your butt with it the jaguars did do that. Oh, they did? The Jaguars, after an interception, went and, like, there was probably three guys went and stole towels out of fans' hands.
I love that. Good, good.
Which, that's a felony in Pittsburgh. Yeah.
Those guys who got their terrible towels taken, they are within bounds to, like, go hunt them down and, like, beat the fuck out of them them. That's theft technically, right? It's theft of the highest degree.
You took another man's possession. It's grand theft larceny.
It's grand theft towel. It is.
Yeah. Remember our coworker, Jen Simons, who was a big Steelers fan, and she had a terrible towel.
And she was like, I think we needed it for a skit once for advisors. And she's like, this has been passed down in my family like through generations.
Like this terrible towel means a lot. Yeah, you can't take someone's terrible towel in Pittsburgh.
But I love the fact that they did it. Yeah.
Like I agree. It is theft of the highest order in Pittsburgh.
It's like stealing a child. It's like stealing someone's child.
But I love the fact that they're like leaning into the rivalry with the towel because we haven't seen a man versus towel rivalry like this since the Titans did this since the Titans did it back in the late 2000s where they stomped on it on the field, and then two years later, I think it was... Who was it? Maybe James Harrison suplexed Vince Young and said that was for the towel later on.
You don't fuck with the towel. I like the football player-versus-towel rivalry.
Yeah, it is officially on. And the Jaguars have the the Steelers number.
It does feel that way. Yeah.
It feels like every time they play. So the Steelers play Thursday night.
We'll see if Kenny's okay. They said they're going to monitor it.
Rib injury. I thought it was a shoulder.
It was an old Drew Brees. I thought it was a shoulder.
It was actually a rib. Yeah, I don't really know what to make of the steelers i think they're just going to hang around all season win a couple you know win a fair share of games but i'll never feel fully confident until i see their offense put together a full game where they look good and that even when kenny was in today it didn't look that way i think i read that it's been something like 50 games maybe more than 50 games since they've had 400 yards of offense the sealers and what i think is going to happen with this team it's not going to be a surprise i think they'll end up they'll win a bunch more ugly games they'll go nine and eight and mike tomlin will still never have coached an under 500 team yeah and then everybody in pittsburgh's be like, can we do something about mediocre Mike?

And then everyone else is going to be like, he's never been under 500.

Why would you fire a guy like that?

And then we'll run it back next year.

But they do have, I mean, they play the Titans and the Packers next.

That could easily be two wins.

Oh, Tyson Bajan doing the lost Neil.

That's the worst.

Oh, the surrender Neil?

The surrender Neil is always a bad look.

Yeah.

I don't care.

You know, I know the game is over, but you can't surrender Neil. Go out on your sword.
I hate the surrender neal is always a bad look yeah i don't care you know i know the game is over but you can't surrender neal go out on your sword i hate to surrender neal so pft to your point there was the 54th straight game the steelers offense failed to come close to 400 yards that goes back to the beginning of the 2020 season yeah it's been bad it's been tough offensively for pittsburgh and you keep you kept waiting today for like a strip sack by TJ, an interception by TJ, a forced fumble by TJ. You waited for TJ to score a touchdown.
They even had that moment when Herbig punched the ball out and they got a fumble. But they couldn't capitalize on it.
You got to score. Again, it was a perfect – they were playing the Steelers recipe and then Kenny got hurt and the Steelers recipe fell apart.
Yeah. When your defense sees a ball, you have to pick the ball up and score for the Steelers to have a chance.
And they do it a lot. At least get to the 10-yard line.
Yeah. Get you within an easy field goal range.
Get you close enough that Najee Harris can get stuff for three consecutive one-yard gains and then kick a field goal. It'd be ideal if you got it to the two-yard line so that Najah Harris could have barely a two-yard gain on a swing pass and score a touchdown.
Yes, yes. Okay, so Jaguars for real.
Steelers, who knows. Hopefully Kenny can play on Thursday.
I would like to see Kenny play on Thursday. I would too.
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Next game. Cowboys 43 Rams 20.
I don't get many things right. So I have to take a little victory lap when I do.
The Rams stink. I told everyone on Friday, the Rams stink.
They were very bad today in every facet of the game. I was right on this one.
I was right on this one. The Rams are naughty.
They are – we got fooled by the Seahawks week one, and then they beat two bad teams in the Colts and the Cardinals. Colts, I'll say frisky.

When the Cowboys get to play a bad team like the Rams, it was over.

And it was over so fast.

It was 10-3 with 43 seconds left in the first quarter,

and then three minutes later it was 26-3.

It was a pick six, a block punt safety, and a touchdown.

It was that.

That was it. Yeah, and you had the pick six for Daron Bland.
That was his a pick six, a block punt safety, and a touchdown. It was that.
That was it.

Yeah, and you had the pick six for Duran Bland.

That was his third pick six of the season.

The record is four.

Four.

So he's on pace to have six and a sixth pick sixes on the year, I believe.

Correct.

If I did my math right.

The Cowboys have beat the Jets, Patriots, and Rams.

So three bad teams.

You know, the Cowboys kill those teams.

They've beaten those three teams at home by a combined 111 to 33.

And the Cowboys, credit to them,

they stopped doing this like,

we want to just only do complimentary football.

They realized that they have CeeDee Lamb,

and he's really fucking good,

and Dak played really well,

and they threw the ball deep,

and that's what the Cowboys should be doing. They saw that the Rams secondary sucks and they're like we're gonna torch you and it's exactly what they did CeeDee Lamb had 158 yards and two touchdowns Dak was pretty much perfect he had he had one interception which was kind of a tip ball in the red zone like if you're a Cowboys fan that's the Cowboys you need that's that what they did offense defense special teams Minka or uh I almost called him Minka Fitzpatrick because he got hurt the Steelers uh Micah Parsons was all over the field like that is the recipe that's a perfect Cowboys recipe now you got to do it against a good team I'm looking forward to that game because we're either going to get really really pissed off Cowboys fans or we're going to to get really, really pissed off Max afterwards.
Yes. It's kind of a win-win for us.
It's content no matter what. Fun stat about the Cowboys.
Did you know that teams that have beaten the Cowboys are 0-8 after beating them? So I guess that'd be the Cardinals who stink and the 49ers who have just kind of hit a wall right now. Okay.
So it's bad luck to beat the Cowboys. Bad luck, yeah.
I know the 49ers are 0-3 after they beat them. So, Max, you might not want to beat the Cowboys.
Because then you'll lose the next game. Yeah.
Oh, the next game's the bye. Yeah, bye.
Oh. Well, it's not just like the next game.
You might lose to the bye. You might lose every game for the rest of the season.
This is a sample size of two. If this stat holds true, you would then lose every other game that you play.
This is a sample size of two and really one because the Cardinals are bad. Well, it's a sample size of two, but also every game that they've played after beating the Cowboys.
Correct. So 0-8 is the record.
Yeah, the Cardinals and Niners will never win a game again. Never win.
Yeah, and the Eagles won't either if you guys win next week. So be very careful with the Cowboys game.
Bye. There was a great, great moment before the game.
DeMarcus Ware made it into the Cowboys' ring of honor. Jerry Jones introduced him as DeMarcus Lawrence going into the ring of honor, which is very relatable from Jerry Jones because I think everybody said when they got DeMarcus Lawrence, like, that's too many DeMarcuses on this team that played the same position.
We can't keep track of all this. Yeah, that's tough for the big day, for the big day.
I don't know what the Rams do now they're in very much I think the Rams came into the season they have Matthew Stafford they have some an older roster and they're like hey maybe we'll catch lightning in a bottle they win week one oh maybe this will be lightning in a bottle I I think they're gonna end up obviously outside the playoffs and not a very good football team. Now they have like a big transition that has to happen.
Yeah, it'd be interesting to see if the Rams just became like, we love picks. Right.
And they traded away everybody to get more draft picks after not ever having a draft pick. They might have to because, I mean, Matthew Stafford hurt his thumb.
He hurt it twice, I think. But he was good enough that they had a touchdown drive to start the second half but then he came out of the game once it became a three-score game again so i don't know what the rams are a weird team like i i think they're bad and i think maybe this is the moment that people are like oh maybe they are actually bad yeah i i don't think that they're bad bad i think they're they're one of the best no you're still falling for no they're one of the best bad teams i know i don't know if they're even that i think they might be no i don't I don't think that they're bad, bad.
I think they're one of the best. Oh, no, you're still falling for it.
No, they're one of the best bad teams. No, I don't know if they're even that.
I think they might be. No, I don't think they're even that.
I think they're better than the Cardinals. Well, no, the Cardinals are just terrible.
Yeah, terrible. They're not like the bottom five teams in the NFL, but of the next group, they're bad.
I think they might be top of that next five. They might be like the 10th worst team in football right now.
I don't know. I'd take probably everyone in the NFC.
I'd take the Falcons and the Saints and the Bucs maybe over them. Take the Bucs over the Rams? Maybe.
That would be a good game. Yeah.
Maybe. I'd like to see that.
Baker Revenge? The Broncos are better than the Rams right now. The Broncos might be rounding into form.
I'll have to do it for when the power rankings come out on Tuesday. I'll have to give some real thought into where I actually put the Rams.
But I don't think they're not a good team. And they were getting a little too much credit for that Seahawks win.
So now we're finally done with that. You know what they were good for? It was six and a half.
What? Gami. I'm over the score, Gami.
You got to Gami, Jake. I'm over the score.
I'm just happy when Jake's happy. I'm happy for you, Jake.
I'm over the score, Gami. Why? It feels like it happens too much.
This is the third time in the season in eight weeks. Yeah, that's too many.
Wasn't it last year where it took a long time? I like that. I like that.
It took a week six or seven to get one. Right.
Three in eight weeks is too much. Okay.
Well, the more that happens, you'll have less to deal with. I know.
I can't wait for the day when it's gone. Could the Rams hypothetically trade Aaron Donald? Yeah.
That'd be weird. Yeah, that would be weird.
I don't think they would because I think he would just retire. Yeah, he's threatened retirement every week.
I'm out. Every week he's like, I might not come back to work next next week.
Jake, so three Gami so far this year? Yeah. Do you have a favorite Gami? No.
Just all of them? Yeah. Is there a Gami you want to see? Another one in the Super Bowl.
Last one we had was 43-8 Broncos and Seahawks. Can you walk us through? I guess it's because I don't really care because you can't win money off it,

so it's like, who the fuck cares?

Can you walk us through why you love Scorigamis so much?

Because I love the fact that you love them.

Because it's different.

Yeah, I hate Scorigamis.

I like that you like them.

I hate Scorigamis.

That's fair.

I just like rooting for things

that people don't really care about.

Okay.

To stand out.

Yeah, I really enjoy it.

You guys are all rooting for players and bets.

I'm rooting for this.

Yeah.

You should be able to bet on a Scorigami.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you. To stand out.
Yeah, I really enjoy it. You guys are all rooting for players and bets.
I'm rooting for this.

Yeah.

You should be able to bet on a score, Gami.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I guess I just don't.

I think maybe it's because there's been too many this year.

I liked it when you had the first one, it felt like it hadn't happened in forever.

Now, it feels like every Sunday you stand in front of the TV, you're like, Gami.

Also, sometimes it's just fun to see a good old-fashioned 24-17 game I recognize those numbers. I know, but it's nice being like, oh, I've seen that before.
I know exactly how they got there. I also think, what were the other Gamis this year? It was week one.
Because 43-20 doesn't feel like a Gami to me. That's not cool.
43 is hard to get in the NFL. Okay, but still, 20, come on.
We see that all the time. I need like a gami to me that's not cool 43 is hard to get in the nfl okay but still 20 come on we see that all the time i need like a double weird score we have uh eagles bucks that was monday night football 25 11 that was cool so this is the fourth oh see dolphins so you were hiding one for me i'm right i'm right these things suck 20 they have them every then 25-9.
It's like the fucking, you basically are like the NHL outdoor classic. No, no, no.
Yeah, no, no. You have them every week.
You're like, we'll do this every single week. You're the England game.
You just do it every week. And I'm sick of it.
We got one week one, and then we got back-to-back days. Yeah.
And then we have my birthday. It was my birthday present.
Yeah, birthday gami was big. Yeah.
Too many gami. This is the first one since week three.
It's week eight. Four and once in eight weeks is too many gami.
Okay. They got to be more special.
They've ruined the gami by making them. All right.
Then I won't. No, no.
I'm still going to take the picture in front of you. Yeah, of course you are.
Yeah. And you should.
I'm not saying. Again, you liking them is not the problem.
I don't like that Gommies happen so often. Okay.
They got to slow down. But again, we can have a handshake deal and be like, the more they happen now, the less you'll have to deal with them later on.
It's very true. It's like, might as well get rid of them.
What's the lowest possible Gommies? I'd like Gommies to go extinct. Is it like three to one? Six one.
Six one. Yeah.
That's what I want. Six one would be awesome.
That would be insane. That's my personal score.
Right. There are certain ones.
That's a scorgasm for me. Yeah.
There are certain ones that would look cool. 43-20.
That doesn't feel like. Also, we had an octopus today.
Travis Etienne. What's an octopus again? When you score a touchdown, and then you score the two-point conversion right after.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. So, yeah, if there's no more Gommies this year and there's one in, like, week 17, I'll respect it.
Fair. This is just four out of eight.
Like, man, slow down. Slow down, Gommies.
It's like the, yeah, like you said, the London games. Yeah, right.
It's like we can't do it every week. We need to, they need to slow down.
Well, good thing we got Germany next week. Yeah.
Let's go. Yeah.
I mean, I'm excited for that game. All right.
Speaking of, one of these teams is playing it. Dolphins 31, Patriots 17.
Hank? Yeah. Your thoughts on the football game? We are a football podcast talking about football games.
Theots are your favorite team they are my favorite team i am from massachusetts uh they did play against the dolphins today and they lost facts only okay and there's your recap of the patriots game you are ron rivera if uh i do you know big had turned me on to the the draft projection machineathon, it's the best. Let's actually update it now that the pair's lost.
Lucky enough to be, I hope this doesn't mess up what I'm about to say, but we were lucky enough to be on the sidelines at Wisconsin last night. Very cool experience.
Got to see it up close and personal. Got to see Marvin Harrison Jr.
Very fast. Light it up.
Maserati. Maserati Marv.
I looked on after the game. Patriots have projected fourth pick, and they would take Maserati Marv.
Get Matt Jones a weapon. And then I instantly got excited.
So you don't have the fourth pick anymore. What the fuck? So right now it's Arizona, Carolina, which is the Bears.
The Bears, Giants, Patriots. So you have the fifth pick now.
That sucks. And I'm going down to Brock Bowers.
Okay. That's pretty good.
Baby Gronk. Yeah, Baby Gronk.
The Bears have Drake May and Marvin Harrison Jr. That's a pretty good combo.
Drake May can't beat Georgia Tech. That's like a, that's true.
That's a reset on your entire franchise, though, if you get Drake May and Marvin Harrison. Marvin Harrison Jr.
is so fucking good. So good.
So good. So good.
Like watching him in person, it was insane. He's so much better.
He sticks out compared to everyone on the field. Which is hard to do as a wide receiver.
Right. Yeah.
Right. Compared to some other positions.
As for this game, Mackones didn't play terrible had one really really bad throw uh the interception really bad

play calling was you know left a lot to be desired the the dolphins offense is prolific i will give

the dolphins credit they are just constantly in motion you it seems very tough stuff i thought

the past defense did a good job like they were you know confusing them they were getting stops a

Thank you. They are just constantly in motion.
It seems very tough to stop. I thought the pass defense did a good job.
They were confusing them. They were getting stops, a lot of third downs.
But the Dolphins just have so much motion, so much speed. They're hard to stop.
I think the Dolphins are the Super Bowl favorites. Whoa.
Whoa. I said that a couple weeks ago, too.
They have to beat a real team, though. They did.
Oh, the Patriots? Yeah. This Chiefs game will be the test.
Because, all right, so last week we talked about the Dolphins potentially fraud-watched. At this point, you could do the this team beat this team, this team beat this team.
Okay, but let's do it just real quick here for the Patriots. The Chiefs lost to the Broncos.
What place are the Patriots in? The Dolphins hung 70 on them. What place are the Patriots in in the AFC? Dead last.
I have an insult stat that I'm guessing you're going to read. But no, no.
But Hank, real quick, again, this is, the Dolphins are not frauds. They are on fraud watch.
The teams they've beaten are the Chargers, the Patriots twice, the Broncos, the Giants, and the Panthers. They have to win a game.
They have to win a game against this Chiefs game will be a huge test for them. I will say in favor of the Dolphins, Jalen Ramsey coming back.
He was the one who had the big pick on Mac Jones. That is a huge, huge thing for their defense that should give them a little toughness and get them out of that fraud watch.
Because you think that teams will have to throw the ball well to beat the Dolphins. Right.
If you have a cornerback that's out there that's taking away a quarter or half the field. Jalen is that good where when he's playing at his best, you have to account for him at every single moment, every single snap.
So I do think that it does make the Dolphins less potentially fraudulent than they are. And the best way to get out of the fraud watch is to play good defense.
Because that's usually the sign of a fraud watch team is your offense is really good, but your defense is not sustainable. And you can just say, oh, it's a track meet.
Right. Doing a track meet out there.
It's like, oh, well, when they play against a good defense and slows the game down, it's going to look different. Also, when your owner is doing the waddle and then making out with his hot young girl that's a very uh generous use of make out yeah it was not a make out it was a kiss and i think it was his old wife oh really yeah whatever she looked hot and young to me it was a it was a it was a very much an old person we've been married for a really long time let's let's have our lips touched for the least amount of time.
It was just fun seeing an owner kissing. Yeah, it was.
Dolphins have the fifth best odds to win the Super Bowl. What was that? That was Mike Tyson.
Do you want to hear the sad stat? I'm surprised you don't have this. Well, no, go ahead.
You've never beaten Tua? Albert Breer. Yeah, Albert Breer.
You've never beaten you've never beaten to a never beaten to a six and oh six and oh Mike McDaniels was iced out in the sideline I gotta find out can we find out how much that watch was yeah wait was that the sad stat that you never beat to a no no his sad stat is that uh 15 of the 16 AFC teams will be within three games of each other in the standings the one outlier at the bottom bottom, the New England Patriots. Wow.
So the six wins over two is the most by any quarterback over Belichick in 29 years as a head coach. Wow.
Nerd nugget. Kind of owns Belichick.
Hank. He owns him.
Because you were feeling like this game was – I mean, the first half the Patriots were playing them tough. They played decent.
I don't know. It is what it is.
It is what it is. They fucking suck.
They're not going to make the playoffs. I'm not going to get excited about this team anymore.
I'm going to root for... At this point, the smart analytical decision is to get a really good draft pick.
Winning games accomplishes nothing. I'll teach you how to do that.
I taught you about Tankathon. You got to every single week is the same thing.
You got to be like, ah, it'd probably be better if we lost. When the game kicks off, your instincts will take over, and you'll be like, I want to win this game.
And then when your bad team starts playing bad because they are bad you're like oh this is actually good literally what i just did sunday night football sat down was like tyson pageant let's go first pass darnell mooney yes this is going to be awesome we're going to shock the world we're going to win outright and then it all went down from there and i was like you know what that's better so it's it's not it's not a bad it's actually not a bad way to root for a team because if you do win you're like happy and if you lose you're also happy yeah and this and the nba season started the celtics are actually you can't do that one absolutely football we're talking well i'll give hank this the celtics beat the heat this weekend oh you, congrats. Fucking right.
That's huge. Game two.
Yep. Yeah, it is what it is.
They played okay. Not good enough to win.
And the Dolphins look really good. Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waller had 233 yards combined, two touchdowns.
They just do so much motion, it feels like cheating. They're so fast and so good.
They just – every play is – I also feel like Tyreek Hill doesn't get enough credit for his, like, ball-catching ability in traffic

because he's so fast.

That catch he made was maybe in the fourth quarter

when he was jumping up

and there was, like, two defenders on him.

And it was a pretty incredible catch to get the first down.

Like, because he's so good at the fast stuff,

we don't give him enough credit for just being incredible even when he has to make the tough catches. He's got great hands.
Yeah. He's got great hands, good instincts.
He's just a great football player. And when him and Waddle are cooking together, you can't really – I don't think that there's a defense that exists that's able to guard those guys.
Your best hope is to like – Weather. Weather or get to the quarterback.
Yeah. But if you can't do that, if you can't put pressure on Tua, then you're kind of fucked.
And Tua was looking cool. Backwards hat.
I fucking love Tua. Besides the first quarter interception.
Yeah. Yeah.
The Dolphins are 12 and 5 in the throwbacks, too. Great uniforms.
Those chairs are clean. Love the throwback uniforms.
I can't wait for next week. Like, if they beat the Chiefs, then everything to me is different.
Where I'm like, yes, 100%, the Dolphins are a Super Bowl contending team right now. I have them as a very good playoff team, but you'll get into a game where defense will step up and it will look different.
So we do believe in time zones and we believe that the coach that defeats time zones the best has a big upper hand in the European games. McDaniel is taking the guys to Germany tomorrow.
Oh, so they're going to win.

The Chiefs are going out there.

They're only getting one full practice in on Friday.

Oh, no.

And Mahomes is going to go.

Dolphins first half.

Mahomes might not be allowed to go because he's got the flu.

He's got the big C.

As Hank mentioned earlier.

I just made that up that he wouldn't be allowed to go, by the way.

The Chiefs losing to the Broncos, I think, is bad for the Dolphins.

Yeah, of course.

Of course.

Of course. But, pins up.
Okay, is bad for the Dolphins. Yeah, of course.
Of course. Of course.

But, pins up.

Okay, so, Hank, season's over.

Yep.

Okay.

Kind of nice.

Right?

Yeah, we beat the Bills.

I didn't even watch it.

A little freeing.

Yeah, you've only seen one Patriots win, and it was against the Jets.

You would like to beat the Jets, though, again.

Yeah.

Because you have to keep that going. Yeah.
Especially if the Jets keep winning. Get close, yeah.
Yeah. They're fighting.
Spoiler. That would be your one main spoiler that you would want, right? And the Bills.
Who would you rather spoil? At this point in the season. Well, the Bills, I believe, we play at the end of the season.
No, Jets is last week of the season. Oh.

Yeah.

So probably Jets, especially if Rodgers is playing.

Bills is week 17.

Jets is week 18.

And next week, you wouldn't want to win that game?

Hank?

No.

You just said your take was on.

Yeah, no.

It's Patriots' commanders.

The answer is no.

Well, okay.

Preview of next week's game.

Hank, would you still rather have Mac Jones than the same how? Yeah, no. The answer is no.
Well, okay. Preview of next week's game.

Hank, would you still rather have Mac Jones than Sam Howell?

Sam Howell looked unbelievable.

I mean, it's all coaching.

I feel like they're probably similar caliber quarterbacks.

But Sam Howell, the first half against the Eagles, was throwing passes. Wait, it's all coaching.

He's saying that Ron Rivera is a better coach than Bill Belichick. What is that? Wait, what? It's all coaching, but Ron Rivera is a bad coach.
Bill Belichick's a good coach. Ron Rivera has gotten teams to Super Bowls.
A team to a Super Bowl. You got Cam Newton to a Super Bowl.
It's all coaching? It's not all coaching. I'm saying they're probably similar.
No, no, no, no. You guys are just trying to play gotcha.
No, no, no. I'm literally asking for a clarification.
That feels like that was a Freudian slip where you're like, Belichick sucks at coaching right now. No, it was not.
That's exactly what that felt like. That's all that was.
That's exactly what that felt like. You didn't realize it until after you said it, but you just admitted that Bill Belichick is not a good head coach right now.
I did not. I never said that.
You did. I would, I guess, take Mac Jones.
I really like maybe, maybe just, you know, mix it up, take Sam Howell, see what happens. Put him with a good coach? Mack Jones? No, but Sam Howell with a good coach.

Like, Sam Howell's bad.

But you just said he was the best quarterback.

I mean, Sam Howell's good, but he has bad coaching.

So if he's good with good coaching...

Mack Jones is good when he has

good coaching? No, Mack Jones is bad,

but he has good coaching.

But it's all coaching. But you're also saying that right now...

That's what I'm saying. So, like, Sam Howell

has good coaching, imagine how good

he's going to be. So you think that Sam Howell

is great, like, the best quarterback Thank you. But it's all coaching.
But you're also saying that right now. That's what I'm saying.
Sam Howell has bad coaching. Sam Howell has good coaching.

Imagine how good he's going to be. So you think that Sam Howell is great, like the best quarterback in the NFL with the worst coach?

I never said he's the worst coach.

But if it's all coaching, if Belichick's a good coach, he should make the quarterback good.

Yeah, he's making him really good compared to his skill level.

Got it.

Oh, Mac Jones?

Mac Jones is actually worse than we're seeing. Got it.
Yeah. Okay.
That makes sense. You didn't make a mistake.
Nope. Oh, man.
All right. Next up, Titans, Falcons, Titans 28, Falcons 23.
Our guy, Will Levis, four touchdowns was awesome. Pressured all day.
Falcons defense is good. I am happy for Will Levis.
He had that moment after. We went and found his family.
The guy got shit on at the draft. He got shit on by Titans fans before he was able to start a game.
I'm very, very happy for Will Levis because he went out and he fucking balled his ass off. So he has twice as many touchdowns this season as Ryan Tannehill does.
Wow. Isn't that crazy? And also he remembered that DeAndre Hopkins is good.
He remembered DeAndre Hopkins is on our team. That was, it's weird, especially if you're like a Houston Texans fan, seeing DeAndre Hopkins playing for another team wearing Houston Oilers uniforms.
Which? That's got to be strange. They, they're great okay? Yes.
I'm just strictly talking about the uniforms here. Maybe my favorite uniform in the NFL.
One of them. Tennessee Titans should not be allowed to win.
It's bullshit. It's bullshit.
They gave up the rights to that. Correct.
When the team moved and they decided to rebrand, they're like, you know what? Oilers doesn't make sense in Tennessee. We're going to be the Titans for some reason.
Right. I don't know why.

And then they just get to go back and use another city's uniform.

Didn't the Carolina Hurricanes wear the Hartford Whalers uniforms once?

Yeah.

It's bullshit.

Hartford's mad about that.

You can't do that.

You took the team from a city.

You are the Titans now.

The Texans should get to wear the Oilers throwbacks.

That's how it should work.

Yeah.

The franchise, I understand, can move around. It sucks it sucks but it can but the colors stay yeah it's it's as simple as that and it's going to be very weird and they're sick colors when the Oilers play against the Texans because they are going to wear the throwbacks that's fucked up but yeah Will Levis awesome moment uh awesome first game he is the second player since 1970 with four touchdowns in his first game who's the other player this is not good for the titans wait wait i think i know is it um matt flynn no it's marcus mariota oh okay so the titans have this in.
Also, you want a little trivia? This one is a little bit tougher. DeAndre Hopkins tied the record for most first touchdowns caught by a quarterback.
So he's caught the first touchdown from four different quarterbacks. Can you name him? Kyler Murray.
No. Oh, well, I'm off to a bad start.

Will Levis is one.

Will Levis, Houston Texans quarterback.

I'm going to go with...

Yates of Hell.

TJ Yates.

No.

It's not Brandon.

Sean Watson is one of them.

Shaub?

No.

Oh, um...

Matt Shaub was...

Davis Mills. Matt Shaub was DeAndre Hopkins' uh touchdown but not Schaub yes Davis Mills no it was Case Keenum Tom Savage Deshaun Watson and Will Levis wow I went down a rabbit hole and I was like I was trying to figure out who it was so I saw the stat but they didn't say who it was and then I was like so I looked up all the Texans quarterbacks and went back and tried to figure it out.
And guess who? Ryan Mallett, RIP, who his first touchdown pass was to? Andre Johnson. J.J.
Watt. Oh, crazy.
Pretty cool. That is wild.
That's just some crazy wild trivia right there. It's wild ball.
So four times he's caught the first touchdown pass from a quarterback. That's cool.
And it was great to see Will Levis not only throwing those touchdowns but they were they were like sick bombs too like they weren't give me touchdowns he was he was balling out today it was great um they went with a two-headed monster of willis and will levis for like one series each i think and willis got booed and will levis to his credit afterwards is like that's not right which i liked he's a. But, yeah, it was great seeing Will Levis in that offense and being like, oh, they can actually stretch the field.
Yeah. They have vertical threats here.
It is weird seeing the Titans do that to somebody. And if you're a Tennessee fan, this is probably like a good – you officially switched over today from hating Will Levis from being a Kentucky quarterback to loving him now that he's your Tennessee quarterback.
And the Titans are in a weird, weird spot. They just traded Kevin Byard.
There's talk about Derrick Henry. They're in this weird transition.
There's nothing better if you're in a transitional period with a franchise to have a guy you can get excited about. Will Levis is that guy.
I agree. Good point, Big Cat.
Yeah, Will Levis played good enough to the point where you're like, I have somebody to root for for the rest of the year. Apparently, they told Derrick Henry that they're not trading him, though.
Oh. Now, Max heard something different on Twitter.com or X.com.
Well, Max heard something different in his brain. Yeah.
Where he's like Derrick Henry eagle. But they apparently told him, you're going to stick around.
Okay, that's good. As for the Falcons, we finally got the switch.
So Arthur Smith switched to Taylor Heineke. Now, he said that it's not the actual switch, that Desmond Ritter is going to be the quarterback next week.
They're also, Ritter was checked out for a concussion, passed the concussion test, which makes me feel like maybe Arthur Smith was just waiting for a moment where it's like he's out for a play. It's like, oh, that's convenient.
Taylor Heineke. It's either that or he was playing so poorly that Arthur Smith was like, this guy's got to have a concussion.
Let's check him out. Which is not good if you don't have a concussion for a coach to think that.
Right. To pass a concussion test when everyone's like, dude, you must be concussed.
Yeah, and he's like, no, there's something there. You learn how to fudge that test.
And Taylor Heineke almost won them a game. If Van Jefferson didn't drop that ball on fourth and one in the red zone, the Falcons could have easily won this game.
Yeah, it was a great pass. It was an easy pass that should have been caught.
But Heineke led them to – I think he got all their points. Oh, no, they got a field goal in the first quarter.
But then Heineke came in and played pretty well. Taylor Heineke's fun.
He's a good quarterback. Give us Taylor Heineke.
Give us Taylor Heineke. We got more Bijan today.
We got 11 carries for Bijan. He still should get like Algieri got 8, 31 yards, average 3.9 a carry.
Bijan got 11, average 5.6 yards a carry because he's about twice as good. I love it.
And a touchdown. I love it.
And Arthur continues to just kick sand and all the all the nerds face. Keep doing it, Arthur.
Keep trolling everyone. I can't get enough of it.
This felt like, though, I will talk about the NFC South when we when we get to the Saints in a second. But it felt like a game that the Falcons might look back and be like, damn, we should have won that game.
Especially, you didn't know Will Levis was going to play as good as he did, but against a rookie quarterback, first start, and you had the chance to win the game at the end, this could be one of those games that they're like, well, that was why we didn't make the playoffs. Yeah.
And it's always nice for a rookie quarterback to have Derrick Henry

to hand the ball to.

Yeah.

He's just going to carry it 22 times.

That's 22 times that I won't have to drop back.

Yeah.

Let's just let him cook for a second.

I'm happy for Will Levis.

Yeah.

17% accuracy.

He improved.

That's pretty good.

That's what he told everyone.

That's pretty good.

When he was joking, but he told everyone.

And he's single.

And he's single.

What a great time to have a great game.

He's probably at the Barstool bar right now.

Probably. And he deserves it.
Yep. He deserves a night off.
Okay. Can we just say Will Levis drinks for free at the Barstool Bar? Yeah.
That sounds good. Whenever they win.
Whenever they win. Yep.
Whenever he throws a touchdown pass. Okay.
One touchdown pass, drinks for free. That feels right.
And Titans stop doing that uniform. We should protest.
Yeah, but they're sick uniforms. I know, the texans should wear them but at what cost hank you have to you have to stand for something or you fall for anything texans should wear them thomas jefferson said that hank the texans should wear it's houston's team but would you rather not see him at all or see them i'd i'd rather watch earl campbell highlights where he's wearing the uniform i guess i'd probably if you put it that way hank i'd probably rather see him because isn't that what happened max with the kelly greens like someone owned them like the previous owner owned the color palette or something i think it was just the helmets because they couldn't do the shells this was the first year that they could do the the kelly green helmets and it looked bad with the other helmets.
Oh, that makes sense, actually. That makes sense.
Yeah, they are sick. All right, fine, Hank.
I'll take them however I get them. You know what? Whoever wins between Tennessee and Houston, they get the uniform.
That's what it really should be. How about that? That would be a great.
That should be Monday night game, everything at stake.

And both teams wear the Oilers outfits for that.

Just one wears blue, one wears white.

No, they both wear the Oilers uniforms, but it says, like, one says Titans, one says Texans.

That's the thing.

I might even take it if the Titans.

It's just the fact that it says Oilers.

I think all their gear said Oilers today.

I think, let's see, I'm looking at it right now. I don't know if it said Oilers on there.
I thought I saw some guys on the sidelines wearing stuff that said Oilers. Did it? I think all their gear said Oilers today.
I think. Let's see.
I'm looking at it right now.

I don't know if it said Oilers on there.

I thought I saw some guys on the sidelines wearing stuff that said Oilers.

I don't like that.

That bothers me.

Yeah.

And maybe we're just being pussies about it.

I don't know.

No.

I mean, I think that Houston has a fair gripe when it comes to that.

The Oilers played in Houston.

Yeah.

That's a fact.

That is a fact.

The Oilers are not. They're not a Tennessee team.
That is a fact. Yeah.
No, it says Oilers played in Houston. That's a fact.
That is a fact. The Oilers are not a Tennessee team.

That is a fact.

Yeah, no, it says Oilers on his helmet.

Oh, on the helmet?

Yeah.

That's what I'm saying.

Oh, on the front of it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it said it everywhere.

Damn.

Okay.

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End of Pardon My Take. Okay, Saints 38, Colts 27.
The Saints offense is back. Look at that.
It was huge. This was massive, massive for the Saints.
It was everything. It was Alvin Kamara looking awesome, 110 yards total, two touchdowns.
It was Taysom Hill doing Taysom Hill where he had like a 40 yard pass a 14 yard catch and then 60 plus yards running with with a couple touchdowns and then the real surprise was my guy rashid shaheed catching some bombs from derrick carr he had what like 155 yards three touch three catches three catches and a Yeah. Three catches for 155 yards is insane.
I think it's his number that makes him look not as fast. It's his name, too.
His name is so awesome. I just want to say it.
His name is great, but his number, you see that and you think, is this like a mid-speed running back? No, no. He is fucking fast as hell.
And I'll say this very clear. If the Saints want to play like this, I'm in in like that's the thing is the saints it's nothing personal the saints have just played such a mind-numbingly annoying style of football where it's pass pass pass to uh the line of scrimmage if they want to air it out because they have some really good players i'm all the way in yeah and this was the formula for the saints they're

17 and 1 when tasem hill has at least seven carries in a game yeah that's a great stat i love it feed tasem give him the rock let him do everything with it let tasem hill just like just jump around whatever position groups he he feels like being in on whatever particular drive they had 500 yards offense today they were fun the saints were fun again they were fun again it's good seeing the Saints be fun again. Should we put a future on

the Saints to win the

NFC South? You could... today they were fun the saints were fun again they were fun again it's good seeing the saints be fun again should we put a future on the saints to win the nfc south you could you could say that about almost any team in that division well they play the bears and the vikings the next two weeks yeah the vikings without kirk cousins what does the coin have them at because the coin is now 8 no okay so let me consult the coin here's here's their non-conference uh non-division games left I'm going to read them to you.
I think we might have to take the Saints to win the division. Their non-division games left are Bears, Vikings, Falcons.
Hank, Shane's trying to get your attention. Bears, Vikings, Lions, Giants, Rams.
That's 4- one. In theory, yeah.
In theory, that's four and one. The Lions would be the only one that I would see them not winning.
Okay, so the coin has them going 11-6. So that sounds like it would win that division.
Let's take a look. Let's take a look.
Are we just being complete knee-jerk reaction losers because the Saints looked good on offense once and were like, holy shit, watch out for the Saints. Is that what's happening right now? It might be.
There's a very good chance. Plus 125 to win the division.
Hmm. Hmm.
Okay, we can think about it. We can think about it.
We can think about it. As for the Colts, I don't know.
Their friskiness is starting to wane a little bit bit there's they're fun to watch they are they score 20 points again and they always play in entertaining games minshu was doing his thing back there it looked like he got really injured in the first half and and i don't know what happened to jonathan taylor they said he wasn't injured but he had 11 carries for 95 yards in the first half and then he got one carry in the second second half. They fall behind? So that's either.
Well, but it was still kind of a game for a while there. It was 21-20 for a while in the third quarter.
I don't – he must be injured. Otherwise, it makes no sense to have a guy doing that and then be like, oh, yeah, we're just never going to give him the ball.
So it would sound crazy to say that they would trade Jonathan Taylor after signing to a contract. After signing him, yeah, that is a little crazy.
But that would be the behavior of a team that's going to trade Jonathan Taylor. Ooh, I like where your head's at.
It would be, right? Yeah, I like that theory. You're just like, you know what, we're going to give you Zach Moss.
Yeah. Hmm, okay.
I hope it's not true. Because if you're a Colts fan, you want to have somebody to root for.
Jonathan Taylor is the guy that you want to for now that now that your quarterback's injured for the rest of the year and you want to stay in that frisky category yeah where it's fun to watch the games you don't know what's going to happen um but I feel like it might be slipping Kamara also showed a little burst today yeah you might have shown a little wiggle that touchdown run where it was yeah it looked like that he was absolutely going to get tackled for a loss and he went he like part Red Sea and scored a touchdown. Yeah, I agree.
Might have been a pass. He ran with some enthusiasm today.
Yeah. Like old school Kamara.
I know. He took him a couple games, but his legs are back in.
I think I'm selling myself on the Saints. This might be bad.
This is going to lead you to rooting for Derek Carr in very clutch moments. I'm just warning you.
Theoretically, it sounds like a great plan, but are you going to want to root for Derek Carr? I think it's also my plans are based on if you play the Bears next, like it's a guaranteed win. So get the value now.
It's hard to get a win in the NFL and have one in the bag. Right.
And we, it's the price isn't worked in yet, but they do play the Bears next maybe that's not a bad strategy uh okay so that was a fun game very fun game let's talk about the big 10 west performance of the day the jets and the giants jets 13 giants 10 in overtime this game had 24 punts, 23 points. This game had 15 punts in the first half alone,

which was the most since 1991 when they started collecting data. This game had, in the first half, both teams combined going 0 for 18 from third down.
And then this game had the stat line of Tommy DeVito, 2 for seven, minus one yard. Tommy DeVito.
Tommy DeVito. I lost so much money betting on Tommy DeVito when he was at Syracuse.
The Giants had negative nine net passing yards. That's the fewest since 2000.
I think they had negative eight net passing yards before the start of overtime, and then Tommy DeVito threw for negative one passing yard in overtime. They were doing whatever they could to not allow him to throw the ball anywhere near where a cornerback might be at any point.
And it was a very interesting game plan. Now, obviously, Taylor got sent to the hospital.
He took maybe an internal injury that they're going to scope out. But Tommy DeVito, people forget he wears the chain with his initials on it.
It just says TD. He is a fantasy fuckboy.
And they did not trust him to do anything. And there was a moment where Dable and Salah were both kind of looking at each other from opposite sidelines, both understanding the mess that they were both in at the time.
But the difference is Dayball was pissed off about not being able to do it. And he was wet.
He was so wet. He was super wet.
He got so wet. Salah wasn't wet.
He was shiny. He was glistening, and he was smiling.
Like, this is such a fucked-up game. I love it because he's learned to embrace the chaos that goes along with not having any offense.
So he's like, if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with. So I'm just going to put it all.
We're going to see what we can do with Zach Wilson. And Salo was like, oh, they have more fucked up quarterback situation than we do right now.
Yeah, he was loving it. This is incredible.
He was loving it. And then you just had a wet blueberry on the other side in Dable just going up and down the sideline.
I don't know what he was it was some team issued gear but it was one of those raincoats that it wicked all the water but it also held all the water on it so he just like if he shook himself like a dog he would make someone instantly drenched he looked like a zit kind of because he was starting to turn like a little pink at the end uh he looked like uh the the chick fromka. Yeah.
Violet Bogard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Violet Bogard. Yeah.
She gets rolled out by the Oopin Loopins. Yeah.
He was just very, very angry. I don't know why the Giants have a quarterback on their roster who you cannot throw the the ball that feels I know obviously third quarterback

you don't expect your third quarterback to play it's not going to be a great situation if he comes in but they literally didn't want Tom like they were so scared of Tommy DeVito throwing the football he threw everything within two feet of his like face and I I don't know who we can protest to, but

Saquon Barkley deserves

FedEx Ground Player of the Week

because he had 128 yards in an offense that literally couldn't throw the football like that was the most impressive performance in a loss that anyone's ever had i guess you could say why didn't dable give him the ball on that fourth and one when they kicked the field goal that missed grahamano missed in the rain at the end of regulation, which was the perfect. It was this game fucking rocked.
It was so stupid that it was, it became fun. It was the perfect Zach Wilson, like entire story arc where fourth and 10, you have the game's about to be over.
It's like a minute and a half left. You have two timeouts, fourth and 10 from your from your own thirty you have to just throw the ball you have to throw the ball and take a chance he takes a ten yard sack that puts the Giants directly in field goal range the Giants can't throw the ball so they run it three times then they miss a field goal and then Zach Wilson takes him down the field in two plays for the tying field goal to take him to overtime.
It was everything Zach Wilson. Like, how do you take that sack? And then how the fuck did Zach Wilson get him all the way down the field? And they spiked it with one second left on the clock.
Yeah. So we have a narc out there in the media.
Uh-oh. Our friend Boomer, Boomer Siason.
Uh-oh. He played for the Jets, right? He was a Jets quarterback.
He was, yeah. He tweeted out that the center actually spots the ball before the spike not the official the spike play shouldn't have happened game should have been over and then he he tagged the nfl and also nfl officiating in the tweet to narc him out because if you watch the replay at the very end of the game zach wilson throws the ball across the middle field it's caught they a first down.
They have to get up there and spike it to attempt a field goal. The center runs up to the ball and the center puts the ball down.
The referee sprints in and just ever so slightly taps the ball and runs away. Apparently the referee has to pick the ball up and put it down to spot the ball, but he just let the center do it.
And if the referee had gone over there, picked the ball up and put it down to spot the ball but he just let the center do it and if the referee had gone over there picked the ball up and spotted it correctly that's what um what the cowboys messed up in that playoff game where they ran that weird play with like 13 seconds left you remember that against the niners right so that's that's what they fucked up because you have to wait for the official to do it apparently the center just took matters into his own hands and said i'm'm going to spot the ball. I dare you to stop me.
Do something about it. And they got it off, spiked it with one second left.
So I'm actually going to take the opposite side because our guy Jeff Schwartz, who played offensive line in the NFL, he wasn't one of those pretty boys like Boomer who got to play quarterback. He said the center did an awesome job checking the spot with the line judge before putting the ball down.
So he basically did the judge's job for him. Is this cool? Yeah, he was like, is this cool? Then the ump touched the ball to spot it, and they clocked it.
I just disagree with Boomer turning his back on the Jets like this. Yeah, but that was, if Jeff Schwartz is right, that was a heads-up play by the center.
Yeah, we can give the center credit. Yeah, I mean, the bottom line they got away with it so it worked.
So good job and no one wants to see a game end where you can't spike. No I hate that.
I hate the word. I hate that when the refs just stands over the ball and the precious seconds are ticking away and you're just like snap it snap it and you can't because this guy's here making the game all about himself.
It's the most unfulfilled. I mean it happened to me when I was at the Rose Bowl and Russell Wilson that literally happened where they didn't get the spike off.
it's the most unfulfilled i mean it happened to to me when i was at the rose bowl and russell wilson that literally happened where they didn't get the spike off it's the most unfulfilling way for a game to end it is to be like no spike off uh memes memes walking with his chest puffed out he feels sorry for us big cat he is he feels sorry he is really feeling i walked into this office uh into into the studio sometime around the second games Memes was sitting in my seat, feet up on the phone. Big boss man taking phone calls.
He's feeling himself. I was in PFTC I was on the phone.
Feet were not up but me and my dad were talking about the Jets game. I liked my version better.
So let's go with my version. All right.
I might have made up half of it. You were in my seat.
Were you farting in my seat? He had his feet up. Max says, yes, you were farting.
And he was PFT. This is what he looked like.
He was like, yeah, these other fucking franchises, they stink. They don't know what it's like.
The Jets were the best dad called me he was like that game fucking sucked i was like yeah it was a great 24 seconds though at the end yeah so some quick punting stats thomas morstead had 10 punts 10 punts for 486 yards nice three inside the 20 jamie gillen for the giants had 11 punts for 470 yards and he put five down inside the 20. This was a great punting game.
Great punting game. Thomas Morstead had three inside the five.
Yeah. 15th player to do it since 1970.
Wow. Huge punting game for Morstead.
So, Memes, you are feeling yourself a little bit because you got to see Aaron Rodgers throwing a pass, wearing a hoodie before the game, and you're thinking to yourself, this guy's coming back, playoffs, we get Aaron Rodgers back, and we're going to win the Super Bowl. Yes, but also 24 seconds away from just this being the worst podcast of all time.
Was that not the most Zach Wilson thing to have that? Because that fourth and ten was brutal. That was crazy.
And it wasn't even because I had some Jets fans being like, he has no time. He actually had time on that fourth and ten.
There's no reason to just not throw it. Like, what's the worst that happens? The interception? It's fourth and ten.
Yeah, nobody was open, but you still got to launch it. You still got to throw it.
It didn't make any sense. Yeah.
And then to do that, to turn around and go down the field. Man.
Zach Wilson, where you at? Where am I at with Zach Wilson? I'm all in on him. All in.
He kind of reminds me of Jameis Winston. You never know what you're going to get with him.
That's disrespectful to Jameis. Yeah, that is.
Do you think he would have played better today if he didn't apple pick on the bye week? No. He would have played better if it didn't rain.
I said it a weeks ago can't play in the rain yeah that's true you did say that you called that he can't play in the rain this was very close to being like the patriots lost you lose to the patriots society if there was no such thing as rain and it's just it's just a complete utopia with zach wilson super bowl champion yeah it's raining new york every single weekend for like since we moved that's why we haven't done the bike ride. Yeah.
Send a bike ride. Memes, you are excited, though, because it does look – Aaron Rodgers throwing a pass like he's throwing it right now is actually insane.
It's nuts. You also, Memes, you should be very excited because the Jets have a weird – I don't want to say team of destiny, but there's something weird going on.
Like this is three wins in a row. And they're winning weird, ugly games in strange ways.
Right. Which means that they're probably doing a lot of little stuff really, really well.
And I'm starting to kind of believe in the Jets, which like if non-Jet fans, NFL fans are starting to believe in the Jets, that means that something's going well. because I would have no reason to believe in the Jets.
After they beat the Bills, after Aaron Rodgers tore his Achilles, you knew something. Something could happen.
It was the Chiefs game, though. That was the turning point.
The Chiefs game, I feel like that was a loss that counts as a win because you came out of it being like, oh, Jets might be okay. Yeah, we should have won that game.
Right. And then you've won three in a row.
And we get the Jets on standalone primetime two weeks in a row. Memes is acting like a different person on the show right now.
Oh, yeah. No, he was so cocky.
I don't know what he's doing. He's going around saying that if they were in the NFC, they'd be the one seed in the NFC.
He's like, yeah, you know, they're pretty good. All day he's been talking about how the Jets are the best team in the NFL.
After winning 13-10. Max, when he says about who's the one seed in the NFC right now, that would be the Eagles.
What happened when the Jets played the Eagles? How many losses did the Jets have? How many losses did the Eagles have? I'm just saying. SeeFDC is my side.
I see. I see.
So, memes, you're not telling us the truth right now. You're playing coy.
Best team in the NFC. Right now, technically, we beat the Eagles.
Yeah. No, not technically.
Literally, you did beat the Eagles. They don't have to talk about what happened to the Cowboys.
Yeah, that's a good point. Wait, so you're saying that the Eagles aren't the best team in the NFC match? No, I'm just saying that Meme just picks and chooses what is good for him.
I love you guys' relationship. That doesn't sound right.
You guys are each other's biggest haters, except when it comes to Hank, and then you'll team up on Hank. Yeah, that's true.
That is actually a fact. Not only do we get the Jets in primetime on Monday Night Football against the Chargers, then we get them Sunday Night Football against the Raiders, and then skip a week.
And is that Thanksgiving? Yeah. They play the Dolphins.
Yeah, Black Friday. So a lot of...
Oh, that's the Black Friday game. Yeah.
Yeah, so that's a lot of... And that's also a big game for me because I said the Jets could beat the Dolphins last week.
Well, you said right now. Right now.
That's true. Good point, Memes.
Thank you. Right now is past.
Memes, I'm going to bring you back down to earth for just a second. Your offensive line sucks.
We lost two more guys to that. Yeah, your offensive line is not good.
That might be good, though. When you lose bad players, it might not be the worst.
Yeah. Yeah, no, that's actually a fair point.
That's a weakness of their team yeah they just lost the bad guys couldn't get worse so dexter lawrence had 14 pressures today 14 your defensive tackle although tibetho that one penalty that was that might have been the deciding factor because they got the clock stopped yeah on that first chunk play after they got the ball back. To quote your coach memes, they don't ask how.

They ask how many.

Yeah, this final score should have been 7-6.

For the Jets?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

Did you guys – so the defense almost –

the defense on the Giants' touchdown just gave up, like,

two personal foul penalties.

Yeah.

You don't give those up.

You commit those.

I'm also going to jump in real quick and remind you that you did play against Tommy DeVito. And so if Terod Taylor was still in the game, I don't know if it would have – it probably wouldn't have had negative nine net passing yards.
Like, you know when they do the hypothetical, like, oh, how many rushing yards could you get behind the best offensive line in football? I think I could have the same stat line as Tommy DeVito today.

Negative one yard, two for seven.

Yeah.

I just do pop passes.

Two pop passes.

They should have got him going with a little direct pop pass or a shovel pass.

Yeah, right.

Cook a little bit.

You don't.

And then just throw it at someone's feet the minute you get the ball.

Or just arm punt.

Throw it as far as you can for an interception.

Yeah.

No, he didn't even throw an interception, did he?

I don't. And then just throw it at someone's feet the minute you get the ball.
Or just arm punt. Throw it as far as you can for an interception.
Yeah. No, he didn't even throw an interception, did he? I don't think they trusted him to throw an interception.
Shout out, fellow Syracuse grad Andrew Catalan. One of the ugliest, best games you'll ever see on the call.
We all LOL'd in the cave. Wait, who? Andrew Catalan.
He was on the call. He said, one of the best, ugliest, ugliest, best games you'll ever see.
Got it. Yeah, it was a very fun game to watch.
You know, it was a Big Ten West game. It was Iowa-Wisconsin.
You got a big road win. Nebraska-Purdue.
Yeah. Yeah, it was a great game.
Okay, next up, Panthers-Texans. Panthers 15, Texans 13.
Bryce Young's better than CJ Stroud. That's what the stats say today.
That's it. Fun fact.
We figured it out. So that was the first time that the top three picks had played in a game together.
At once, kind of wild. Yeah.
So Bryce has beat the Stroud boys. And, you know, Stroud boys, we're going to regroup.
We're going to retreat. We're going to talk about what went wrong.
We're not going to turn on each other. And we're going to be fine.
I thinkans will be okay but the panthers needed this they needed like a they need this particular game one coming off a bye week to have having something for your fan base to look at and say okay price young might be the guy he might be the guy and frank right good job being smart enough to not call the plays anymore yep that was that was good by you i also walk away from this game being like we should celebrate the oh and 16 teams more because this is a reminder how hard it is to lose every game yeah it is any given sunday and the panthers i mean it was not a pretty game but they won a game they did the the field goals at the end were so funny too when eddie pinero was out there. And the Texans employed the strategy of just trying to time the snap every single time.
Yeah. And this one guy was like five yards off sides twice in a row.
It was like when you played in Madden. You're like, can I stand in front of the kicker when they snap the ball? You can just make somebody rage quit.
That's what he was trying to do, make the Panthers rage quit at the end of the game by committing the same foul over and over and over again. Be like, I can do this all day.
It's a smart strategy. Yeah.
What are they going to do? They're just going to give you another – he's going to make it anyway. They already were well within field goal range.
But shout out to Panthers. They won a football game.
I don't want them to win any more games, but they won a football game. That's good for them.
Must feel good. Texans, are we worried? They're just kind of what they are.
The Texans will be okay. They're a future team.
They'll be okay. The Texans are – you're still good.
You're still way better than people thought you would be this year. But there was a time when it was like, ooh, Texans could be in the playoffs.
I thought playoffs. Yeah, now it's like, hey, let's just enjoy the fact that we have a franchise quarterback.
Yeah. His name's not Deshaun Watson.

I thought playoffs?

Question mark last week.

Now I'm like, probably not playoffs. Probably not playoffs.
But, I mean, there's still three and four. But, yeah, probably not playoffs.
Good for the Panthers. Your Super Bowl this year will be playing the Tennessee Titans for the rights to the Oilers uniforms.
Right. Also very funny when Eddie Pinheiro hit kick, and then he, like a little kid, jumped on his lineman's back, and they were running up the field.
That was just a very – He forgot he was a professional athlete for a second. Yeah, I love those moments.
He was a little boy. I love it.
Yeah, he was a little boy. Okay, next up, Broncos 24, Chiefs 9.
The 16-game losing streak is over. The Broncos have finally beaten the Patrick Mahomes Chiefs.
Good for them. Yeah, this is a big win for the Broncos.
And it's also the snapping of maybe a more impressive streak that they had, which is that they were 0-10 in games in which they held the lead at halftime, which is crazy. So now they're 1-10 in their last 11 games of that.
But this was like the Broncos were the better team today. I don't know.
It never really felt like the Chiefs were going to make that comeback. You kept waiting for it to happen.
Meikle Hardman had that one muff punt, and then it was pretty much over after that. But I felt like the Broncos were in charge of the game.
The Chiefs, okay, so yeah, maybe the Broncos is a better team. I guess what my point is, if I were a Chiefs fan, I wouldn't be worried about this game at all.
They had five turnovers. If you have five turnovers, you should lose by more than 21-9.
The fact that they were the muffed uh kick uh punt return they were down 14-9 getting the ball back like the chiefs could have won this game they didn't have five fucking turnovers yeah and they like out gained the broncos so i i want i like i'm happy for the broncos if you're the chiefs that's a different loss than like the niners and their three game losing streak where their defense keeps getting gashed I think that's just a that happened burn the tape like let's stop fucking turning the ball over constantly the Chiefs will be fine as long as Patrick Mahomes doesn't have swine flu right and it's like a multi-week illness that he's got but I know I think today like turnovers go into the equation of which team was better yeah no I just turn the ball over a lot the bronco today the broncos were the better team i think more importantly we all we all got fucked we all got fucked on a snow game it happens every year we got it last night colorado state air force yeah where they they were throwing snowballs yeah they got a penalty but we got fucked on our first snow game of the year where in the morning they'll show you a clip of like how bad the stadium is it's like 8 a.m. And, oh, yeah, we've got like seven more hours until kickoff.
They're probably going to clear off some of the snow. So we all got excited about a snow game, and there was no snow on the ground at all.
There was no snow. Yeah, and I would say more than the turnovers, because that was kind of a fluky – Yeah, turnovers obviously are part of the game, but there was some fluky shit that happened to the Chiefs.

They have to stop dropping passes.

They had another one in the end zone that could have made it a one-score game late.

Sky Moore, he caught Kadarius Tony-itis.

Yeah.

So the Chiefs, that would be the big thing.

That would be the big takeaway is stop dropping passes.

You probably won't turn the ball over five times again,

but stop dropping passes.

But you're happy if you're a Broncos fan just because the insult stack goes away. I have a question.
Does this make Russell Wilson worth it? No. So the last six quarterbacks, Broncos quarterbacks, couldn't beat the Chiefs.
Trevor Simeon, Paxton Lynch, Case Keenum, Joe Flacco, Drew Locke, Teddy Bridgewater all couldn't beat the Chiefs.

No Brock in there, huh?

No, Brock did not.

He was like there was injuries.

He missed the Chiefs.

Huh?

Yeah.

So congratulations, Broncos fans.

You've gotten the monkey off your back.

And I think Russell Wilson's worth it. What if he becomes the Broncos killer?

And that's all he does.

The Chiefs killer, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, he's already the Broncos killer. He's got that.
I did like how the Broncos were playing Taylor Swift after, because now we get to start the narrative that we've all been waiting for. Travis Kelsey, in games that Taylor Swift attends, is averaging 108 yards per game.
In games that she doesn't attend, 46.5 yards per game. You want to play harder for your girlfriend, right? You do want to play harder for your girlfriend, but she's going on tour.
Was she watching today? I don't know. Did she put anything online? Can we look that up? I don't know.
Is she a real fan? You know this take is going to happen. Oh, it's already happening.
Kansas City Radio. They put it on the broadcast.
Yeah. They said there's a very clear difference in games where she attends versus the ones that she doesn't.

He's too lovestruck when she's not there.

He doesn't want to play football.

He's got too much to comment him.

I'm not going to go there.

He's got too much.

I will not go there.

It backs him right up.

She's promoting her new album that was out this weekend.

I don't see anything about Travis Kelsey.

Oh, wow.

Interesting.

Was it 1989 Taylor's version, I believe?

Yeah. It's a banger.
And they broke the record. Broncos.
Yeah. 16 games.
Damn. Maybe they didn't give her tickets.
Yeah. Because if you're an opposing team, you can just say she's not allowed here, right? You can ban anybody from the stadium.
I was at the Blackhawks game last week, and I was saying to Donnie, you should just hire Taylor Swift lookalikes and just put them in a box and show them on the fan game. Yeah.
Why not? You could probably find one on Cameo. People would freak out, yeah.
Yeah. Have a bunch of them.
Put them up at the suite level, too. He can't find her.
Right. It's just everywhere.
Or maybe he'll play really good because everybody looks like his girlfriend. Yeah.
It's not a bad idea, Hank. I just think, yeah, get the people going.
Yeah, get the people just talking, buzzing, talking about it. Yeah, the Chiefs now, this Germany trip, in fact, they're going on Thursday.
So late. Yeah.
So late. Because they, I think they'll win against the Dolphins, but yeah, I mean, if it goes – Chiefs are the team that I felt the most confident in the AFC.
And, again, this game is not a game where I'm like, oh, man, what's wrong with the Chiefs? They had five turnovers. Like, you just don't turn the ball over five times.
But if they lose to the Dolphins, then you've got to start asking questions. It feels like the Chiefs are trying to trap us.'re like begging us yeah to say the thing that that people say every year which is like what's wrong with the Chiefs yeah you're right Chiefs trade away their good players at the deadline we shouldn't fall for it you're trying your best Chiefs and I appreciate it but you're not going to fool me we already gave them the AFC West title last week right we did yeah so you already have it no take backsies um speaking about doppelgangers i don't know if you guys watched on uh sunday countdown this week they did a special on nfl doppelgangers they had like the trevor lawrence girl that looks like trevor lawrence and a couple other people the aaron rogers guy from like europe or whatever then they were like who is uh who are the espn doppelgangers and they had alex smith they put up a picture of ryan gosling the picture looked a lot alike okay he's a good looking guy and then they said what about adam schefter and then they put up a picture of paul rudd and they're like doesn't he look just like paul rudd oh and i thought i was going insane looking at my television shefty i was like shefty what good good for you shefty for for approving this package but there's i don't think there's a guy on earth that looks less like Paul Rudd.
Damn.

Yeah.

Shefty.

You got to take that shirt off.

Take the shirt off.

Take the shirt off.

Oh, maybe the Vikings should call Shefty.

Yeah.

Play some quarterback.

Maybe gritty a little bit.

Yeah.

Okay.

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Ravens 31, Cardinals 24. Fuck Nelson Aguilar for just – I don't know what he was doing on that onside kick.
That was insane. So I didn't see the onside kick because I was frustrated with how this game turned out to begin with.
Yes. All-time Cardinals cover at the end by the onside kick and getting the penalty on a missed field goal, their own penalty, getting to retake the field goal and hitting it and covering the 9.5.
The penalties at the end on the field goals were bad because it was a penalty for, like, offsides, right? Yeah. It was offsides on your own field goal.
False start, yeah. Yeah, field goal block team.
Yeah, false start. And then they missed it wide right, and the second one went right down the dick.
It was a tough way to lose a cover, but it does extend Lamar Jackson's career record against the NFC to 17-1. Yeah.
So he continues to dominate the NFC. And also congrats to the Cardinals, because when you're looking at the draft picks, you're now holding the first overall number one, number one, maybe Kyler Murray comes back.
You rip off a couple of wins, but you're number one right now. Also that touchdown by Trey McBride was awesome when he had the entire Ravens team trying to tackle him.
Yeah. If I was Trey McBride, I would just have that touchdown playing on loop when you walk into my house.
Yeah. That was the best game by Cardinals tight end in a very, very long time.
Yeah. Just make that like a piece of art.
This is a gift. That's over your fireplace.
Your wall, your entire dishes, you getting trying. Five grown men trying to take you down as you just.
Carry them all into the end zone. The entire front siding of your house should just be a giant projection.
Yes. Of that play.
A drone light show. And if you're the Ravens.
Or if you're the Cardinals. You got the Diamondbacks.
Yeah. Let's not be greedy here.
No. You got the Diamondbacks.
And then the Suns are probably going to be good. And you got the number one pick.
Yeah. And the number one pick.
You're fine one pick you got the number one pick and as for the ravens they didn't play their best game on offense but they still are better than the cardinals which i you know i was thinking that maybe this was last week was going to be the jump off point for todd munkin's offense lamar didn't have like the best game uh but they still handle them pretty easily and the ravens defense was very good they were fine so the ravens have gone in in a matter of like a couple years complaining about blowing all these fourth quarter victories that turn into losses so now you're just complaining about blowing fourth quarter covers yeah turn into back good problem to have it's a great problem to have if you're the ravens yeah um we do have a little odell watch he smashed his helmet uh in frustration yeah was that because he got injured but he also had zero? I think he drew a pass interference on that, and he was frustrated that he didn't catch it. Did he spit into his helmet before he did it? That's my big question on that one.
But maybe a Diva watch? Oh, I mean, Odell's been up there. Yeah.
But I do like the purple hair. It's pretty cool.
Yeah, it looks cool. Yeah.
And the Ravens ran the ball. I wonder if the Ravens are going to try to get a running back because they also are in the Derrick Henry discussion.
Yeah, where it's like they have a Super Bowl. They have Super Bowl aspirations, and they might want to try to beef up that running back room.
I always feel like the Ravens can plug whoever back there. If Lamar is running the ball well.
Yeah, he didn't even run the ball today. It makes it a lot easier on anybody else that's in the backfield.
Yeah, but the Ravens are looking pretty good at 6-2. I feel pretty confident about the Ravens.
They have a big game against Seahawks next week, which will be kind of a who's for real situation. Because I'm high on the Seahawks as well, and they didn't play't play great against the Browns today if the if either of those team team wins that game handily I'm gonna be like oh watch out I think the Seahawks are for real yeah um okay well let's talk about that game Seahawks 24 Browns 20 they they did struggle a little today I mean they they basically needed PJ Walker to turn back into PJ Walker at the very end uh with that interception to win the game because they were they came out so hot looked like it was going to be a route and they just toyed around the the browns were able to run the ball and they needed like they needed heroics at the end to win that game which i did not going going into it i did not think that's what how that game was going to play out it's kind of similar to the jetsets, how they win a bunch of weird, strange games in different ways.
The Seahawks have actually found themselves in that position. They're in first place in the division.
Remember we had that discussion on Friday, and I was talked out of it because of our friend George Kittle? They're in first place. They're in first place right now.
I did not see the 49ers losing. They are in first place right now.
When I said that, it was plus 400. Now 250 and it's jake bobo time yeah that guy's awesome fun to say i fucking love him i love him the seahawks wear great throwback uniforms today too yeah they did jamal adams made a big play wearing a throwback helmet bounced right off it yep got the pick um pj walker putting the ball in his hands people are going to be questioning a lot of things Stefanski does but i actually think that Stefanski is doing a great job coaching this team this year with pj walker mostly running the show yeah i don't i they i guess they have to figure out like hey jashaun are you going to play this year because their defense is now their defense has the last couple of weeks been not the defense it was you know the historic defense first month and a half of the season but their defense is still awesome you just need a like a b level quarterback pj walker nice guy i think his ceiling is like c so jashaun are you gonna play are you? I think he's going to come back maybe next week, maybe the week after.

What is he even injured?

What's his rotator cuff?

I don't buy it.

I don't think he likes football.

A lot of people were having the discourse.

Does Deshaun Watson love football?

Does he love being a football player or does he love playing football?

I love that conversation.

That's very good.

Because I think he just loves being a football player, Big Cat.

He loves being paid like a football player. I don't think that he loves football.
He doesn't love that conversation. That's a very good.
Because I think he just loves being a football player, Big Cat. He loves being paid like a football player.
I don't think that he loves. Football.
He doesn't love the grind. I hope he uses this clip.
Actually, that's a bad choice of words. I hope he uses this clip as like a lot of people have been doubting my love for the game.
You know what? I'm going to doubt Deshaun Watson. I'm going to call him out.
I'm going to call him out. I think I love football more than Deshaun Watson does.
I know I love football more than he does. I'm going to call him out.
You could cut off my arm. I'd still go out there with my boys on Sunday.
Absolutely. I wouldn't fumble.
No, never. With one arm? I have too much pride to fumble.
My details are that important to me where I'd never fumble. No chance.
Don't take a sack in a big time scenario where you're going to get backed up out of field goal range either. I know that.
I would never take a sack. I'd throw the ball away.
I'd never take a sack. Every time.
You know what? Because an incompletion is not a bad thing to happen. Nope.
And I know that because I love football. I'd also make plays.
I'd make plays happen. I'd make plays with my arm and my feet.
And my mind. Because I can read a defense.
Yep. Front and back.
Back and front. You know what else I'd do? I'd grab guys by the face mask if they're not on their assignments.
Yeah, I'd headbutt people without my face mask on. I'd pull them over and I'd say, no, you're running the wrong route.
That's just guys that love football, unlike Deshaun Watson. I would also never throw my guys under the bus.
Nope. There's a lot of things I wouldn't do.
Never talk about another man's money. Never do that.
I'd be the first one in, last one out. Mm-hmm.

That's a fact.

I wouldn't go apple picking on my bye week.

Nope.

I'd be in the film room.

I'd be in the film. Grinding.

I'd have my nose.

Nope, I said grinding.

I'd have my nose in the playbook all the time.

Yeah.

All the time.

All the time.

I'd be studying.

24, 7, 365.

I'd be studying every play.

I'd know every play.

I'd check into all the right protections.

Is another thing I would do.

Yep. See who's hot.
Yep. See who's not.
All that stuff. I would reward my guys for hustling.
Uh-huh. Audible.
Yeah. I mean, listen, Deshaun, it's pretty clear right now that we love football more than you do.
We just rattled off all the things that you don't love. Deshaun probably was listening to this podcast, and when we started talking about how much we love football, he turned off he's like these guys are freaks they love football I would love the preparation even more than the games easily that's practice is where I shine that's what a freak I am the weight room mm-hmm I live there I get in there I'd be lifting with the old lineman you know what all day I'd be hanging out with the old lineman after work too uh-huh I'd.
I'd buy them gifts. Not even for Christmas.
Just for being alive. Every day I would see my offensive line.
I would give them another Yeti cooler. Yeah.
Yeti cooler? Mm-hmm. Sounds like you're going cheap.
I'd be getting them the fucking tricked out golf carts every day. That'd be sick, too.
They'd just have so many they wouldn't know what to do with. Well, you have to have the golf cart to put the Yeti cooler in the back.
That's true. They're hand in hand.
Yeah. Yeah.
I get them Yeti golf carts. Get them cowboy boots.
Yeah. All of it.
Watches. Maybe like a couple times a year.
Not too flashy. PS5.
Cash. Listen, I love football way more than Deshaun Watson loves football.
He's been called out. He loves being a football player.
Deshaun Watson, if you're listening to this, tell us your favorite thing about football. Bet you can't.
You're probably going to say the money.

Yeah, you can't say that.

I'd play for free.

I should have said that to start.

I would play for free.

I would pay them to let me play.

One dollar.

For the honor.

Because they'd have to pay me one.

It's a privilege to play in the National Football League. A lot of guys think that, no, it should be given to you.

I disagree.

I think it's a privilege to go out there and you protect the shield.

And if they had to pay me because of like rules and everything, the NFLPA, I'd restructure

my deal every fucking day.

Move money around.

I'd be so cap friendly.

I'd give my guaranteed money back.

That's how much we love football.

Hank, how much you love football?

We're just different.

Not that much.

And that was Deshaun Watson. That was our interview with Deshaun Watson right there.
Okay. I hope he hears that.
Yeah. I hope somebody cuts it up.
Someone send that to him. All right.
Last one. Bengals, 31-9ers, 17.
Uh-oh. This was a can't lose.
I said going into it, it's a can't lose for both teams. The Niners lost.
The Niners are in trouble. You can't lose, you can't lose.
All right, so we should start with saying that the Bengals are all the way back. These are the Bengals that if you're a Bengals fan, you spent the first month saying to yourself, I don't think this is the real team.
I think they'll be back eventually. But as the weeks went by, you're like, I'd really like to see it eventually.
Because even in their wins, their monday night football win against the rams it wasn't great their seahawks win the offense didn't look great this was the bengals announcing their back because joe burrow was out of this world good 28 for 32 283 yards three touchdowns and he ran the ball 63 yards running or 43 yards running sorry but like, you could tell that play he made where he almost got sacked, like, four different times. He was throwing guys off him.
Yeah, he's healthy. And this is what you want from the Bengals.
Like, if you're a Bengals fan, you are having the best night of your sleep of the 2023 season. I know that for a fact because you're like, we're good.
Joe Burrow's back. We got the Bills at home next week.
And we just – they kicked the shit out of the Niners. They ran all over them.
They did everything they wanted. Yeah, the running game was really good, and Burrow did look like himself.
And Jamar Chase was always open. Always open.
He was open the entire game. It was pretty sick to watch the Bengals round for him.
We did get robbed of one of the best plays of the day where Burrow fumbled the ball. They ruled that he was already down, so they blew the whistle.
The center on the Bengals picked up the ball. Karis probably had – he probably could have gone for like 35 yards running straight downhill with the ball, and they ruled it that he was down, but it was a fumble.
I really wish that we could have gotten that because it would have been a great highlight. It's also great whenever an offensive lineman picks up the ball because they have two competing thoughts in their head one is i gotta start running and the other is they start looking around like who am i gonna fight like you could see it in his face he's like who am i gonna fight someone's gonna try to tackle me i get to fight someone and it's a great it's like it's so much fun to watch that happen at the same time i love it when they take the ball and they immediately go into like ball protection mode yeah they pull back yeah they put two arms on it yeah like one arm on top one arm on bottom and they just start running forward and eventually just get their knees cut out from underneath them yeah and go down but it's it's a great play and i'm sad that it got taken off the books today as for the niners they're in trouble their defense been bad the last two weeks.
I know everyone's talked about Brock Purdy, who's also not been good. And people are like, ooh, is Brock Purdy starting to turn back into a pumpkin? I have more confidence in Trent Williams and Debo Samuel coming back in the Niners' offense looking like they have for the first six weeks of the season or five weeks of the season.
The Niners' defense is the issue. Yeah, I don't think Brock – he didn't play that poorly today.
That one interception was bad. Yeah, he had a bad interception, but the rest of the game, I thought Brock was good enough to win, but their defense just stunk.
And they got gashed again. They got gashed against the Vikings.
They got gashed against the Bengals.

Like, that is a cause for concern because, what, three weeks ago,

we were like, no one's going to beat the Niners.

Now they've lost three in a row.

Yeah.

Yikes.

There's some bad stats out there that are following Kyle Shanahan around when it comes to playing from behind.

The first one, which is not good, is that Kyle Shanahan as a head coach is now 0-37 when trailing by 8 in the fourth quarter. So the Niners, I mean, I think it's fair to say that the Niners are not built to play from behind.
It's tough for them. They like to run the ball a lot, and especially when they have Trent Williams out and Debo Samuel out.
It's going to be very very hard for them to to come back from they're not like super super explosive but there's another one where I think they haven't won a game either or maybe they're they've got one win uh when they're trailing by three in the fourth quarter too so Shanahan not not the best at coming from behind you have to you have to jump out to an early, it was, yeah, I mean, I don't really think they're off. I think their offense would be fine.
It's just their defense is, yeah, it looks bad. It looks bad.
Yeah, the Vikings had 452 yards on them, and the Bengals put 400 yards on them tonight. Like, that's not a Super Bowl defense right now is the last two games have been played yep um I don't I hope Brock Birdie it is we're gonna start the discourse and it's it it naturally will happen he was being talked about in one way when they were five and oh and now he's the quarterback yeah are you worried I'm not I'm not worried about brock i think brock is kind of

who brock is but the defense is it is brocktober it is brocktober and it hasn't been brocktober

uh he did come back from a concussion pretty quickly and he might have gotten concussed

again today there was a moment where he hit his he hit his head on the ground with like a two a

situation he started like grabbing his head yeah not good but again if you're gonna rank like what

what's the problem with the 49ers right now i think brock is probably third on the list

I'm going to rank like what's the problem with the 49ers right now, I think Brock is probably third on the list. Yeah.
And they have a bye week. So they're going to get healthy.
Yeah. And they'll be good.
Possibly. I think they'll be okay.
Their defense has to be fixed. But the Seahawks are good.
They missed D'Amico Ryans. That's really what it is.
Who do they got? Wilks? Is that their defense coordinator? Listen, D'Amico's a good fucking coach. And now they're not in the driver's seat in the NFC West anymore.
Nope. Okay.
I guess we could talk real quick about the Bears. Tyson Bajant, maybe not the guy.
Yeah. Is that good? I think it's probably overall a good thing.
Yeah. Because if he was guy adjacent, then people would be putting a lot of pressure on Justin Fields.
You probably wouldn't get the first or second overall pick. He does get the ball up fast, though.
He's fun. Very fun.
I also thought at the first interception, I don't know, I'd have to watch the All-22, which I will because I love football, felt like the receivers both ran the wrong route because it was very bizarre. Looked like to a spot and neither guy was there yeah so do you guys have any teams or any players that you're going to be unloading no so you're going to stick with these guys i don't think we have any i don't know if we have much that people that people would want yeah cool commit yeah but i want like he's young yeah like dj moore's young yeah you don't want to give up you have to at some point try to build a roster the chargers looked great though i think they scored on every single uh offensive possession um the chargers basically walked away from that game being like wouldn't it be fun to play the bears every week yeah if you're if you're a chargers fan you are probably looking at how big everett looks every time he touches the ball and being like, that's sick.

I love that we've got a giant tight end that nobody should be able to tackle. That stiff arm he put on Hicks was little boy-esque.

It was.

It was like trying to, you know, little brother, big brother,

trying to get at him, and he couldn't.

There's a few guys in the NFL when they have the ball in their hand

and you look at them and you just say, like,

it's impossible to tackle this person. Yeah, yeah.
So the Chargers look good and Justin Herbert look good. His finger thing is so weird.
Like the way it was. It wasn't.
It was Parham. Oh, it was Parham.
It wasn't Everett. Everett's out.
Everett's out. Yeah.
Parham. Parham is even.
Everett's also big. He's bigger.
No. Yeah.
Parham is 6'8". Yeah, Parham's a beast.
Oh, I guess Tyson Bajan only threw two interceptions. I thought there was a third mixed in there.
Yeah, Justin Herbert looked great. Getting to play the Bears defense.
Two things, though, that I'd love to just point out national media-wise. I believe it was Collinsworth said, the Bears aren't built to play from behind the bears aren't built to play from ahead the bears aren't built to play with a tie the bears aren't built to play i don't know what i don't know what that was like this team can't play from we we we can't play anyway i don't think the bears can beat you in a shootout yeah there's any type of game you want to the bears can beat uh brian hoyer the bears can beat the commanders yeah if dick buck has just died yeah right this is like it was a pretty stark difference when you play against justin herbert versus the raiders uh and yeah that one was bad and then jason garrett on the pregame said he loves how eber flusas righted the ship i think jason garrett just wants a job that's what it sounds like to me yeah i don't the definition of writing the ship um because they won two games against a bad raiders team and a bad commander's team no offense no we're bad um i don't think we've righted the ship no i think the ship has not been right i think ship's still taking on water briefly it was it was like you remember when the titanic broke apart and half of it sunk down and then this might flow and then for a second half of it stayed up until the bottom half dragged it down that's where you guys were at yeah we were we righted the ship we're like hey maybe yeah this is a lot of metal maybe we'll stay up.
And now you've got Iberflus clinging to like a door like Jack. Yeah.
But then Rose lets go. Yeah.
And Ryan Poles is going to let go. You told me you would never let go, Rose.
That guy, I got to shout him out. I think his name's Ross Reed.
He had a great, it was Iberflus walking in. And I think it was Ted Phillips and Ryan Poles behind him.
And he's wearing basically the same suit as Joe Pesci and Goodfellas

right before he gets whacked.

When he gets made.

Yeah.

In the maid ceremony.

Yeah.

So, yeah, things aren't going well.

I'm not going to say the take.

I want to say.

No, I'm going to say it.

Say it.

I didn't love that Justin Fields is wearing sunglasses. On the sideline? I didn't love it.
I know this makes me sound like an old guy. I agree.
I don't know. If you show up to your job, if you're at your job and you're wearing sunglasses, you are a piece of shit.
Did you not think it was a little weird? It might have been bright on the sidelines. Might have been bright.
Marijuana's legal in California. I don't know.
You sound like Colin here. I know.
I know. Listen, I said that before.
I was like, this is an old man. This is going to be an old man take.
Maybe it's because we were losing and it was bad. And I want Justin Fields to play.
And I want to see what the rest of the season looks like with him. I just didn't love the sunglasses.
I know there's going to be old radio guys who are going to have the same take as me, and that will make me feel old. But guess what? We're in the trust tree.
Pardon my take. We let it fly.
We shoot from the hip. I didn't love it.
There's an old saying. There's two types of people that wear sunglasses indoors, blind people and assholes.
Did anyone else have the same feeling, or was it just me? Make that what you i'm gonna do a quick twitter search i you don't want to do sunglasses i'm gonna probably there's gonna be people agreeing with me that i do not agree with in general this seems like danny cannell is all over this one yeah yeah this is a day you're you're absolutely right this is danny kat's danny cannell fuck danny canatz. Yeah, Justin Fields wearing sunglasses indoors looks like an asshole.
I love Justin Fields. Listen, we've had him on the show.
I feel like I can say this. If I were standing next to him, I'd have been like, maybe if we're winning the sunglasses play, when you're getting your ass kicked the way we got our ass kicked, maybe take them off.
You know what? If you guys win that game, they become deal with it sunglasses. Right.
Exactly. Yeah.
That's what you wanted. That's really what it is.
Now, I'm happy we talked this out. It's not the sunglasses.
It's the loss in the sunglasses. Yeah, because it gives you one more thing to be.
Because you know what? You don't want him. Oh, no.
You don't want him to look cool as you're losing. Coward.
Rodney Harrison just came at Justin Fields on the postgame show for literally no

reason for wearing sunglasses. Alright, I'm

disavowing myself. I had no

problem with him wearing sunglasses. What was your take

with Deion? It's the same thing.

Yeah, no, I don't think Deion should wear sunglasses

when he's coaching. Okay.

Coaches wear sunglasses all the time. But at

night.

Transition lenses. Deion does not

wear transition lenses. Those are not

transition lenses. They're just always reflective.

Those are not. It really is

Thank you. night transition lenses deon does not wear transition coaches those are not they are they're just they're just always reflective not true i it really is i'm as i'm talking this out it really just comes down to winning and losing if you win with sunglasses i'm it's cool if you lose with sunglasses it's like come on man it's like uh painting your nails yeah if you lose and your nails are painted then it's like dude why are you painting your nails it's like when if you win it's like this dude's got swag it's like painting your nails.
Yeah. If you lose and your nails are painted, then it's like, dude, why are you painting your nails?

If you win, it's like, this dude's got swag.

It's like when Brady Hoke didn't wear a headset on the Michigan sideline.

When you lose without a headset, you're a fucking asshole.

Yeah.

When you win without a headset, it's like, oh, he's good.

No problem. You just don't want to give anybody a thing to point at.

Idiots like me have a thing to point at.

Anything to point at.

So I'm disavowing my own take. It was a momentary lapse.
There's going to be. I know that there's going to be.
There's people are going to make this take. And I'm going to be like, I don't like these people who are making this take.
Are the lights too bright for Justin Fields? I put myself in a box. This one.
It's going to be on Monday morning. Stephen A is probably going to do it.oward's gonna do it skip's gonna do it i hate myself i hate cannell's for sure gonna do it here's the thing is i fucking hate myself cannell is gonna be pissed off that he wakes up tomorrow and he didn't have this take first yeah i'm i'm i hate myself all right officially disavowing my own take uh no problem with the sunglasses you a problem with the losing.
Have a problem with the losing and the way we lost because we got our ass kicked. Happy we talked that out.
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Hank, who's back of the week? My name's back of the week is Francis Ngannou. Yeah.
Yeah. Technically, he's not really back.
Tyson Fury, they boxed Tyson Fury, Francis Ngannou this weekend in Saudi Arabia. Oh, that's where it was? Yeah.
I was wondering why it was a weird time. I hate that.
Every fight should be in Vegas. Yeah, because I kind of saw it during the day.
I was like, damn, I want to watch this if it was at night. I don't really like the Logan Paul boxing.
Those don't really draw my interest too much. But Tyson Fury, just two big men fighting is what you want to see.
Two heavyweights. Francis Ngannou also has the perfect champion fighters.
Well, it's also the perfect. He's not a boxer, but one punch.
Yeah. That's why I bought every Mike Tyson pay-per-view after he was completely washed.
I was like, but what about that one punch? And he did get a punch on him. Yeah, he got a bunch of punches on him, knocked him down.
He had his energy. He was fighting until the end.
Split decision, but a lot of people were saying that he won. So who won? So he's back.
Technically, Tyson Fury won the split decision. But Nag never.
But Nagano's back. It was crazy because, like, Tyson Fury always looks a little bit out of shape, but he looked so out of shape next to Nagano.
Just, like, they look like different species. Yeah.
He did. He was the heaviest he's ever been.
Was he? As they said. Which, bullshit for the announcers to say that.
Yeah. He's the fattest he's ever been.
But I almost respect that. Yeah.
You know how cocky you have to be to go into a fight and see your opponent looking like Ngannou and saying, you know what, I'm just going to eat a lot. I don't really need to train that much for it.
I mean, obviously, he trained against Anthony Joshua. He probably just didn't train as hard for this.
But now he's maybe going to do more actual heavyweight boxing fights. I think somewhere that the Fighting Commission was going to rank Nagano as a top 10 ranked boxer.
So if he fights again, potentially it could be for a championship. This is the whole reason he wanted out of the UFC or wanted Dana White to give him the ability to do this because he probably made more in this fight than he made at the UFC in his career.
Definitely. It's crazy.
Okay, good. Who's that? Yeah, I saw his brother, Tommy Fury, made like $10 million doing the YouTube fight against KSI.
We should become fighters. You were, Hank.
Yeah. Yeah.
I got 10K. But we love football too much.
Too much. Too much.
Because you know what? It'd be a distraction if we started a fight. It's like, is this guy really focused on football? All right, PFT, your who's back? My who's back of the week is Flava Flav.
Oh. Yeah.
Flava Flav got brought out at a Bucs game to sing the national anthem. And you know what? On a sliding scale of how good I thought Flava Flav would do versus how good he actually did, he knocked it out of the park.
Yeah. He absolutely crushed it.
Now, on a scale of people who are actually invited to sing national anthems at professional basketball games, probably like right above Fergie and nobody else. I would love to know, because whoever made the decision is hilarious.
Yeah, agreed. And I'm sure there was someone on the inside who

didn't really, they're like, yeah, Flavor Flav

rapper, sure. Not knowing

Flavor Flav. And then when they saw this

we're like, why the fuck did

we book Flavor Flav to send the

national anthem? Yeah. But it was worth it because it was

a very, very funny video. Yes, it was.
And he tried.

Yeah. He tried.
No, he did a good job.

He did try. For Flavor Flav.
For Flavor Flav.

I think he probably performed as well as he possibly could have. Where do you think New York is these days? I love New York.
I loved her. She was the best.
That show was on Young Enough. That show and who was the blonde hair rock star? Keith? Oh, no.
Every Rose has his thorn. You're talking about Poison.
Bret Michaels. Yeah.
Bret Michaels. Double Shot of Love.
Bret Michaels. Yes.
Was that Rock of Love? Those. I mean, it was Rock of Love.
Double Shot was. I forget.
Oh, that was Tequila. Yeah.
Nazi. Those, yeah.
Problematic. Those shows were on when I was young enough where I didn't understand celebrity, and it blew my mind where I was like, how do these guys have all these girls just competing, like Flava Flav? Like, who is this guy? Yeah.
It was the best. And Bret Michaels used to always walk into a room and just be like, what's the going on? That was like his catchphrase.
It was great. I said, what's the going on? Like, every time I would walk into a room that year is.
New York versus Pumpkin. Oh, one of the greatest rivalries of all time, which she spit on her.
The best. That was a great show.
VH1 really had a nice little run. And the girl that like won ended up dating, getting married to Shaq.
Yeah, she had game. Yeah.
Big time. All right.
My Who's Back of the Week is the World Series. Two games in.
It was actually very funny because when we were in Madison, I offered to buy tickets for everyone, and I offered to buy tickets for Max on, it must have been Monday or Tuesday, and he said no. This is fake news.
Because he thought the Phillies were going to be in the World Series. This is fake news.
This is fake news. Damn.
This is just not true. This is not true.
It sounds like it's true with Big Cat just said.

I said that I wasn't.

The dates add up.

Yeah.

When was Game 7?

I asked him on Monday.

Game 7 was Tuesday, and he was like, no, I'm good.

I don't want to go to the game.

Correct.

Because he looked at the World Series schedule, and he saw Saturday night is Game 2.

Incorrect.

I never said that I didn't want to go to the game.

I didn't want to go into the game.

It was cold. Can't drink in the stadium.
I wanted to go to the bars. You just completely made up that narrative.
It had nothing to do with the World Series. It had nothing to do with the potential World Series.
Okay. How was the World Series game two? Didn't watch it.
Oh, at all? Wasn't on at the bar? I was watching the Badgers. Oh, okay.
But game one was incredible. So it's 1-1.
Diamondbacks. We're rooting for the Diamondbacks.
Our guy, Dan Heron. Game one, though, the craziest stat ever.
So obviously they played another road game last night. But after game one, the Diamondbacks had played in four road World Series games in the history of their franchise.
And three out of four of them, they'd given up a two-run home run in the bottom of the ninth. Yeah, there was a wild video that went out there about George W.
Bush who threw out the first pitch. Yeah.
And they did a mashup of George Bush throwing out the first pitch in this game. Also in the World Series back when it was in New York when he threw that heater right down Broadway.
And then the left-handed home runs that lined up. Yep.
The opposite field shots. It was crazy.
We're about to have Iraq War 3 if this keeps going. Ravel also was like, if I'm George Bush, I would never throw another first pitch out because you just like ruined the one in 2001.
No, he didn't. No.
That's still an iconic first pitch that will never be taken away. I don't even remember what his first pitch on Friday night looked like.
He bounced it. Okay.
But I don't. But who cares? The pitch in 2001 is, I mean, you talk about.
Revell definitely has. Primetime player.
He definitely has some type of memory. He probably has got like, you know, a piece of the dirt or something.
He's got a ticket stub from that game. Yeah, and he's like, now it's not worth as much because we know that he bounced one.
Yeah, but that was a – game one was incredible. So I was listening.
I was driving home yesterday and listening to some postgame on it, and Buster Olney was talking about the Diamondbacks pitching staff and their coaches. By the way, this is way older than my sunglasses.
Yeah. Yeah.
I was listening to baseball radio. No, baseball postgame.
Postgame radio. Yeah.
That's old school. 100%.
Way older. Oh, you love to hear the guys.
And they do like a two-hour postgame show. And God bless them for figuring out things to talk about baseball for two hours nonstop.
But Buster Olney was like, Dan Heron, he is the pitching architect. He's the architect.
You probably heard us talking him up. He's the architect of this Arizona Diamondbacks rotation.
I think he has a locker right now. He tweeted a picture.
He should. Like an analyst locker.
He should. He's the architect.
Fuck, we got to get him on. I hope they win.
I hope we can get them on drunk. Oh, yeah.
It'd be great.

Okay, Jake, finish us off.

You're who's back.

My who's back of the week is Dylan Brooks being a villain.

First off, LeBron Stopper.

Yeah, he got cooked today by Steph Curry.

I don't know if you guys saw the highlight.

I did.

And second off, when asked about Victor Wambanyama when they played over the weekend,

he said he's tall.

That's really it.

Yeah, I love that take. People got mad.

No, I love that take because that's every guy that doesn't actually play basketball.

They just point at a guy who's seven feet tall and be like, he's just tall.

If I was that tall, I'd be a great basketball player too.

That's like when Shaq in his heyday, when I was a little kid,

one of my first worst takes was like, he's just bigger than everyone.

He's not that good.

Yeah, if he wasn't allowed to dunk, he wouldn't be good at basketball. I think he's embracing being than everyone he's not that good yeah if he wasn't

allowed to dunk he wouldn't be good at basketball i think he's embracing being the villain i think

it's good yeah well you got to be um you got to be good at basketball to also embrace being the

villain because if you are bad at basketball and embrace being the villain you'll just get let it

what is it memes what's the meme uh get ready to learn chaddy's buddy yeah memes i needed you there

Thank you. What is it, memes? What's the meme? Get ready to learn Chinese, buddy.
Yeah. Memes.
I needed you there. Wait, did you say the Batman line or the ready to learn Chinese? What the fuck? Batman line.
You thought you were saying you either die hero or live live in a villain. Oh, no.
You're a villain. No.
Get ready to learn Chinese. That's like one of your go-to memes.
That is. Now it's get ready to learn Canadian when somebody plays bad in the NFL.

That's good.

Oh, that is good.

I like that, eh?

What about get ready to learn flag football rules?

That's good, too.

You could win a gold medal now.

It's a good thing. Yeah.

Yeah, true.

Steph Curry did hit him with the crazy scream face.

Yeah, the home alone.

Okay.

Good show, boys.

Good show.

I think we're going to do a hockey preview on Wednesday.

I like it.

Hank, you have to remind Ryan Whitney.

Okay.

Or Mike Grinnell.

Okay.

Ryan Whitney.

On it.

Everyone tweet Whitney and say, remember, you have to do pardon my take at 2.30 Eastern on Tuesday.

Please tweet him that.

A reminder.

Okay. Hank, have you.
Please tweet him that. A reminder.
Okay.

Hank, have you ever gotten this?

No.

That a boy.

Good answer.

Have you?

Good answer.

All right, numbers.

Three.

18.

31.

20.

31, huh?

Someone's going to get it today.

I'll go 70.

What's a 31, Hank?

Someone's going to get it today. I'll go 70.
What's a 31, Hank? Someone's going to get it today.

Shane?

10 for Shane.

What'd you go?

31.

We'll give Evan 69.

He's in for my birthday?

Thanks, Hank.

He didn't remember your birthday.

Memes, what was yours?

Mine's three.

Evan's a 69.

Okay, here we go.

Oh, I love that sound yeah it starts up it's like an f18 legend lend both candles

17 yes yes yes you are such an idiot. Why'd you go 31? You're such an idiot.
You're the first person in the brand new studio. Shut the fuck up.
It would have been a historical selection. That's your number, Hank.
That's your fucking number, dude. If you had been the first, it would have killed me.
You got so cute cute with it it would have killed me if you were the first and you were that's your number you guess it every time and you didn't guess it this time and it went 17 why did you take 31 hank that literally is your number that's insane that's your number you could have have been... Shut the fuck up.
Do you know how much you could have flexed on us if you had gotten that? A lot. Instead of any of us? That's your dream scenario.
And with 17? Why did you go 31? Why did you go 31? I don't even want to say it. No, you said that.
No, you have to say it. Because you have to blame something.
You have to say it. Stooley gave you the number.
He's never going to end it now. There's just some fucking dickhead who just keeps DMing me.
Hank. Oh, Hank.
I knew it. Hank.
He can't even hear me. Hank's the worst.
Hank's the worst. Hank's the worst.
Hank's the worst Hank's the worst

Hank, why did you do that?

You know what? We could do one more

Let's count?

Yeah, it could count

Hank, you want to do one more?

Nah

I don't think we should

Nah, we won't

I'll do one that doesn't count

I just want to see

I wish it was 31

I'm out. I don't think we should.
Nah, we won't. I'll do one that doesn't count.
I just want to see. We want 17 to go.

Oh, I wish it was 31.

Hank, that's brutal, dude.

It was 50.

That's brutal.

Tommy.

Tommy got you.

Why would you listen to Tommy Smokes?

Not Tommy Smokes.

Love you guys. Damn, Hank.
You're not gonna sleep tonight That's so brutal That fucking rock He cares Fuck you Talking away On the walk I'm safe I'm stayed anyway Today's another day to find you talking away

I'm the one I'm to say I've stayed anyway

Today's another day to find you shining away

I'll be coming for your lover Coming for your lover Take me on me Take me on I'll be gone But after I'll see I'll be. Take me I'll be gone

Living to a dream Thank you.