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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take,

Speaker 1 we have week six picks and preview for every single game coming up. We have our good friend Jared Carabas, national baseball writer on the show talking MLB playoffs, which have been fantastic.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk Phillies Braves game four.

Speaker 1 The Phillies are into the NLCS.

Speaker 1 There was also a football game tonight. The Broncos are rock bottom.
We might have to update our bleakest

Speaker 1 standings.

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Speaker 1 Now in the street, there is violence.

Speaker 1 And then a lot of

Speaker 1 work will be done.

Speaker 1 No place to hang out or washing.

Speaker 1 And then I can't blame all on the sun.

Speaker 1 Oh no, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue.

Speaker 1 And then we'll take it higher.

Speaker 1 Oh, we got a ride. Down to Elaine.

Speaker 1 It's part of my take.

Speaker 4 There's another part of the sports.

Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, October 13th, and it hurts me to say this,

Speaker 1 but Max was right. Congrats, Max.
Max was right.

Speaker 4 The bank won tonight.

Speaker 1 And Max was right more than anything. Our big, long debate, which I'm sure some people didn't love on Wednesday's show.
I thought it was very funny.

Speaker 1 It was the epitome of this show, debating stupid things over and over.

Speaker 1 Max said that after game two, Castellanos barreled one up, and that was good vibes. What did Cassianos do the next two games? He had four home runs.

Speaker 4 Someone has to be dead in the world right now. Somebody very important passed away for Castellanos to go on this tear that he's been on.
Congrats, Max.

Speaker 1 Congrats, Max. You slayed the Braves.

Speaker 4 It had to take you spitting in my face to do it.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry about the spit.

Speaker 4 I forgive you. you.

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 1 It's too much to explain. I got mad at the face of the game.
That's really very simple. Cassiano said a home run and you spit on PFT.
Well, I was yelling at you. That was it.
I was yelling at you.

Speaker 4 We hawked a Lugie. No, the

Speaker 1 Lugi on PFT. I know, but

Speaker 1 the home run was because he said that we weren't getting barrels and that. Yeah, which is a trigger word for Max.
We learned. Don't say barrels.

Speaker 4 Don't say Max. He's a barrel-chested man.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But Max stood up, started screaming. And with Max, you know how the line between anger and pure joy is very much blurred.
It's like the horseshoe theory. On one side, you're happy.

Speaker 4 On one side, you're sad. When Max gets so happy, he actually gets furious.
And so he just starts screaming. And then a Loogie about the size of a silver dollar flew out of his mouth.

Speaker 4 And I was in the splash zone.

Speaker 4 He didn't mean to. It wasn't intentional spit.
But he spit on you. But my arm got spat on nonetheless.
I disinfected it. I burned my arm.

Speaker 4 So I think

Speaker 4 you have been sick for the last six weeks. No, I feel good.
Whatever you got, I got.

Speaker 1 So Max,

Speaker 1 congratulations. Take down the Braves.
Bloopy, beside himself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he tweeted something like C in a couple

Speaker 1 weeks. Coward's way out.
What does that mean? I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't know, but we got to read some of the replies to that. He's definitely getting ratio.

Speaker 1 He's getting killed.

Speaker 1 Max,

Speaker 1 NLCS, D-Bax.

Speaker 1 Will you be rooting for our friend Dan Heron? No, not Heron. Okay, well, that's fucked up.
That's really fucked up. I also was not rooting for him him at all.
He's our friend. You and Hank.

Speaker 1 He's our good friend.

Speaker 4 He's never been on the show.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We love Dan. He was one of our first guests.
Dan Heron, great guy. Dan Heron, you guys don't remember this.
We also went to battle last year because he said that Rob Thompson wasn't a good manager.

Speaker 1 And then we started fighting. And then

Speaker 1 when the Phillies kept winning, I kept tweeting at him. What do you think about Rob Thompson now? What do you think about Rob Thompson now? He probably didn't see any of the other things.

Speaker 1 No, he replied. He replied all of them.

Speaker 4 Max versus versus Dan Heron. That's what this is about.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm excited.

Speaker 4 Max, I'm happy for you. I really am.
Again, love the Phillies. They seem to have good vibes.
They're an easy team to root for. Also, what we learned this series,

Speaker 4 Braves kind of soft, kind of complainers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They

Speaker 1 complain. And listen,

Speaker 4 if you're a Braves fan, you won a World Series a couple years ago.

Speaker 4 Be happy with that.

Speaker 4 But now, you seemed pretty soft this postseason between the complaining about a reporter tweeting out an accurate statement from the clubhouse, and you're like, that broke the sanctity of the clubhouse law.

Speaker 4 Give me a fucking break, number one, on that. And then

Speaker 1 it was insane. It was a suspicious BBQ guy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 And they just tweeted out what the guy said.

Speaker 1 That's a good job.

Speaker 4 And then the Braves fans acted like, who was the person that said it?

Speaker 1 RCA.

Speaker 4 They acted like Arcea had to be protected because English isn't his first language. It's like, how could you do this when he can't defend himself? It's like, he said it.

Speaker 4 He actually said it. So it's like a report.

Speaker 1 Whatever.

Speaker 4 The second thing:

Speaker 4 was it a Kunya tonight that held up the iPad for the television cameras? Being like, look, that wasn't a strike that they called on me.

Speaker 4 Like, he held up a camera to be, or he held up an iPad to the camera to say, look, I was right. The umpire's wrong.

Speaker 1 Do you think they have a red carpet waiting for them at home? I don't know.

Speaker 2 They should make a carpet out of

Speaker 4 Bloopy's skin. Okay.

Speaker 1 Max, I know you won't agree with any of this. I do feel bad for Braves fans.

Speaker 1 Baseball losses, losses, like quick baseball losses, are the most painful because you spend an entire summer invested in a team, 162 games, one of the best offenses of all time, and then you go out like that.

Speaker 9 Like,

Speaker 1 what they end up scoring in their three losses, would they score three runs? Yeah. They scored zero runs, game one, two in game three, and one tonight.
That's tough. That's tough.

Speaker 1 Best offense in the history of baseball. Yeah, and it's just like that.
It's over, and you're like, the whole season is for naught. But the Phillies keep going.
The bank stood up.

Speaker 1 Statement games from the bank.

Speaker 1 We got home field against the D-backs. Got homefully found in the field

Speaker 1 against the Rangers.

Speaker 4 D-backs don't care.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, the D-backs are the Astros. The D-backs are scary.
The D-backs are scary. They're very scary.

Speaker 6 And Zach Gallen is for real.

Speaker 1 I'm not looking at that team lightly at all.

Speaker 4 In thought.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But you get to reset.
You get a weekend off. Weekend off.
Like, I'm not kidding. The weekend, I'm so looking forward to a weekend of not having my blood pressure at, I don't even know.

Speaker 1 People were saying you might have a heart attack. So, I could.
I should wear a

Speaker 1 what are those things?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm struggling with words. I've already streamed like the first couple games,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 I think Thursday night is game three. We'll stream that, okay, and then we'll figure out from there.
That sounds good. Give people a break.

Speaker 4 Max, talk to me through your emotions when you go back and you watch yourself on stream like later after the fact.

Speaker 1 I tried not to. I tried not to watch any of it because it's not, it's never like a pretty sight.
I'm never doing something that I look at. Although

Speaker 1 the jump, I may be like,

Speaker 1 you were sick.

Speaker 4 I like the shirt ripoff, too.

Speaker 6 That's just primal.

Speaker 1 That's just, that's just

Speaker 1 like, dude, a lot of people were saying you look strong. I know, but that's what I'm saying.
Like, I can't do it again because

Speaker 1 that's all angles. I got a good angle.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you don't want you don't want to you don't want to keep testing you look like alex jones after his diet when he's just flexing a little harder and a little rougher yeah yeah yeah also before his diet and before his diet

Speaker 1 i'm fine with that build yeah um all right so the

Speaker 1 Phillies are into the NLCS. We're going to talk more baseball with our good friend Jared Karabis coming up.

Speaker 1 There was a football game tonight, and the Broncos are officially like the saddest team in the world.

Speaker 4 So sad. So sad.
So Russell Wilson stinks.

Speaker 1 He stinks.

Speaker 4 He's wearing a wristband, though. Did you see his wristband?

Speaker 2 He's wearing a wristband.

Speaker 4 He was like size.0008 font. He had every play on it.

Speaker 1 He turtles so fast in the pocket. He threw for 95 yards.
It was not even. Like, I know that it looks, if you look at it, 19-8, no, it was never close.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs were up 16-0 for what felt like the entirety of the game until the Broncos scored with like five minutes left. But yeah,

Speaker 1 the Broncos are tied now for their worst start in franchise history. Sean Payton, like, I think they might bench Russell Wilson.

Speaker 4 They might.

Speaker 1 He's played himself out of a Hall of Fame career as well.

Speaker 4 They might. And also, Sean Payton called maybe the worst timeout that I've ever seen in a football game tonight.
Did it matter?

Speaker 4 Well, at the time it did. It was at the end of the second quarter, and there were 22 seconds left.
And the Broncos were about, I think they were about to punt, and they called a timeout.

Speaker 1 And then they gave the Chiefs the ball.

Speaker 2 It It made zero sense.

Speaker 1 And then the Chiefs

Speaker 4 kicked like a 60-yard field goal that would have been good from 80. Yeah.
And then the game was over. Also, Andy Reid, I think Andy Reid is bored with the NFL.

Speaker 4 I think Andy Reid is made himself play the NFL on expert mode with the weird shit that he's obsessed with doing.

Speaker 4 Because I think that this Chiefs' offense, if they wanted to play just normal football, would have beaten the fuck out of the Broncos.

Speaker 4 It could have been a 30, 40-point win, but they do all these weird plays almost like Andy is just like, he's playing with his food.

Speaker 4 He's like, I know I'm going to win, so I'm just going to get really weird with it. And maybe in practice, maybe the Chiefs are so

Speaker 4 bored winning games normally that in practice, Andy's like,

Speaker 4 I got to do something fun to keep these guys' attention on football. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So I'll just, I'll do like double pass back and have my backup wide receiver throw a screen to my running back and then get like three tight ends out in space blocking for him. It's crazy.
It's wild.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. Patrick Mahomes now has he is still never lost to the Denver Broncos, which is an insane stat.
I think he's 16-0 now. The last time the Broncos beat the Chiefs was Peyton Manning.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. It's nuts.

Speaker 1 That's such utter domination. 2015.

Speaker 7 Part of my take didn't exist.

Speaker 1 Part of my take didn't exist the last time the Broncos beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 That is insane to think about.

Speaker 1 It's insane to think about. I was 23.

Speaker 6 It might not exist the next time. It's going to be so long.

Speaker 4 That's fucked up, Hank. Yeah, what the fuck, Hank?

Speaker 1 You're trying to get a Mahomes show?

Speaker 6 No, I'm saying saying Mahomes has got a long career ahead.

Speaker 4 You're trying to split up the show right now.

Speaker 6 All right, my bad.

Speaker 4 That was unnecessary, Henry.

Speaker 1 These are my favorite things to look at. No, I just whatever.
What?

Speaker 6 I was thinking like 15 years.

Speaker 4 You might not be alive.

Speaker 1 How about you? Yeah, you might not be alive.

Speaker 6 None of us might be.

Speaker 1 The last time the Broncos beat the Chiefs, they made it. The Chiefs.

Speaker 1 The Broncos made their rivalry. It was when they last beat the Chiefs, it was 57.55 all-time Chiefs.
And now it is 72.55.

Speaker 4 That's very sad.

Speaker 1 That's very, very sad.

Speaker 8 They were that close.

Speaker 4 Also, Taylor Swift was at the game tonight. She was in the box.

Speaker 4 So is Brittany Mahomes. Showed her a lot.
They showed Taylor and Brittany embracing a little bit up in the box. Do you think they're actually...
They looked like they were friends.

Speaker 1 They did.

Speaker 4 Is that a show for the cameras?

Speaker 4 I might have to wait to see if maybe... Show me a video.

Speaker 4 Actually, no, show me an Instagram post where they each take pictures of themselves with each other, where they post a picture where their friend looks way less cute than they do, and then I'll know their best friends.

Speaker 1 Yes, post the worst picture of them on their friend's birthday, but you look good in it.

Speaker 4 Exactly. That's how you know that it's real.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, we don't get canceled for that one. I think we'd like to see it.
I think I'd see the real picture.

Speaker 4 I think every woman listening to the show is like, Yeah, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 Okay, what else before we get to the week six pixel preview?

Speaker 8 Oh, is our ad going today?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yes, Friday the 13th. Yeah, double

Speaker 1 ad. I'm excited.
We've got something. I've got some pod copies, too.
Oh, they are. Yeah.
Beautiful. We'll get them framed.
Will you get them framed? Yeah, I can work on it. Love it.
Thank you, Jake.

Speaker 1 Great job. Thank you, guys.
Very cool.

Speaker 4 Shout out to Dana Holgerson.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I had West Virginia.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck you.

Speaker 4 Hank, did you not know that?

Speaker 1 You at Houston?

Speaker 6 You don't, you know, I didn't, I didn't know you bet West Virginia. I didn't have a bet on the game.
I just, you know, like the friends of our show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 we have a lot of friends in West Virginia, too. So it was tough.
Yeah, that was tough.

Speaker 1 That was crazy. I mean, mean, that was college football at its five.

Speaker 4 That was a clean shot, Hank.

Speaker 1 That was college football at its five.

Speaker 6 I actually did that. It was just a crazy.

Speaker 1 No, I know. It was nuts.
And also, you can't be mad about it if you had West Virginia because you should never have even been in a spot to cover.

Speaker 1 And then Houston had a Hail Mary with seven seconds left. Squib kicks.
Squib kicks.

Speaker 1 Squib your kicks. I'm happy for Dana, though.

Speaker 2 The first win in the Big 12.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for Coach Dana. He is our good friend.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's kick it to ourselves. Week six picks and preview.

Speaker 4 I actually had a question about that. Do you think that Dana would get more drunk after a heartbreaking loss to West Virginia or after a miracle win against West Virginia?

Speaker 1 Miracle win.

Speaker 1 That was a drinking win. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Oh, he'll be drunk till

Speaker 6 Monday, and rightfully so.

Speaker 1 He's going to have a great time.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was a great win for them.

Speaker 8 He earned it. And the program.

Speaker 1 Okay, picks and preview, and then Jared Carabas, and we'll see you on the other end with Firefest as well. Okay, week six, picks and preview.

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Speaker 2 All right, let's get into the games.

Speaker 1 Week six will be the first time officially say we are a third of the way through the season.

Speaker 4 Oh, shut up. Don't say that.

Speaker 1 But it is so fast.

Speaker 1 It's crazy how fast it goes. I just

Speaker 2 hate it when you say it.

Speaker 1 I know you hate it when I say it, but I use it. I don't say it as a negative.
I see it as a

Speaker 1 embrace every moment. Smell the roses.
We love football. Football's on.
We're in day whatever, 10 of 50 straight football days.

Speaker 1 Just, you know, stop and have a moment where you're like, oh, yeah, this is awesome. This is what I like about life.

Speaker 4 Tell you what, a third of the way through, I can live with that.

Speaker 4 If you pull the thing where you say we're halfway done,

Speaker 4 I'm probably. I'm going to burn the studio down.

Speaker 1 All right, so then I'll go two-thirds. I'll just go, we're one, we just, after this weekend, we've hit the first period.
Okay, all right, yeah. Regular season.
We still have a whole month after that.

Speaker 1 Of course,

Speaker 1 regular season.

Speaker 1 Good point.

Speaker 2 And then there's March Madness after that.

Speaker 1 We're fine. Yeah.
And Spring Breaks. You know, they're the best.

Speaker 2 They're the best.

Speaker 1 Okay, first game. London game.
Another London game. Ravens at Titans.

Speaker 1 I have a couple things about this game. First is the travel schedule definitely favors the Ravens.
I looked into it. Without a doubt.
Ravens flew on Monday. Titans flew on Thursday night.

Speaker 4 Thursday night after practice. After practice.

Speaker 1 I went back.

Speaker 4 I did some research actually on the Ravens and their travel record and how they do. So they played, the last time they played in London was 2017.
They went there on Thursday night.

Speaker 4 That was Harbaugh's strategy. That was the worst loss that John Harbaugh has ever had in his career as a head coach.
They lost 44-7 to the Jaguars. This year, they're going early.

Speaker 4 They already went there. They've been there.

Speaker 1 Since Monday.

Speaker 4 They've been acclimated to British life right now.

Speaker 4 I don't know why the Titans are flying out lately.

Speaker 1 They did it last time they went there in a loss.

Speaker 4 I don't know why teams do that. But

Speaker 1 they failed the two-point conversion with time running out. So when Vrabel was asked about this, he's like, yeah, the only difference is we're going to try to get the two-point conversion this time.

Speaker 4 So that's perfect Vrabel answer because his explanation for it was just basically, we're going full speed ahead this week. He's just like, fuck it.
That's his strategy. Fuck it.

Speaker 4 Losers complain about time zones. But in this case,

Speaker 4 I don't know why a team wouldn't choose to go out there earlier in the week. It doesn't make, unless it's the owner saying, we don't want to pay for hotels to get it.

Speaker 1 Budget, I don't know.

Speaker 4 Still, it doesn't make any sense. In fact, get there.
So the Titans practice this week with their throwback helmets on. They're spending more time getting ready for their throwback helmets next week.

Speaker 4 That's smart. Than they are.
But that is smart. It is smart than they are about this week.
You've got to be ready for the throwback.

Speaker 4 I'm going to hammer the throwback uniforms against the Falcons next week. But this week, Mike, come on.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Ravens first half.

Speaker 4 Get your ass on a plane.

Speaker 1 Megalock.

Speaker 2 Okay, so here's my take.

Speaker 1 I'm kind of sick of the London game. And let me just explain it before anyone tells me I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 I like the early football. It's fun.

Speaker 1 I'm sick of the fact that they have made something that was unique and different into just every week. When it was like twice a year and it was spaced out, it was kind of cool.

Speaker 1 Like, oh shit, we got a bonus game. This is the third week in a row.
They're just changing the schedule on us. They're slowly

Speaker 1 getting our brains ready for football at 8:30 in the morning. I don't know.
I just,

Speaker 1 I liked how cool and unique it was, and now it doesn't feel cool and unique. It just feels like a burden.

Speaker 4 It's like interleague play.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 So what's probably going to happen is in the next like two to three years, there might be

Speaker 4 four games a season over there.

Speaker 1 I think next year, Mike, is there not the Germany?

Speaker 4 Well, the Germany, I'm talking about London.

Speaker 1 That's a few weeks ago. Okay, all right.
This is third in a row.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so it's the third in a row. Next year, there'll be four in a row.
Year after that, maybe five in a row. And next thing you know, we're going to have a team in London.

Speaker 4 We're not even going to notice. We're just going to be ready for it.
I know.

Speaker 1 So I'm saying right now, I noticed. Yeah.
I noticed. I noticed what you're doing, NFL.
There's nothing I can do to stop it, but count me

Speaker 1 in the group of people who noticed.

Speaker 4 So it used to be that they would screw over like two teams a season in terms of travel schedule. Now they're screwing over, I think, seven or eight teams.

Speaker 4 So it's like a third of the league is getting boned on this London European football.

Speaker 1 No, we're going to week nine and

Speaker 1 week 10. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So week nine, is that also is that Germany? And then week 10 is

Speaker 1 so they're going back

Speaker 1 again so this is going to be five out of seven weeks that again I don't I like more football different time slots I think that if the NFL was really smart what they would do is adopt more of like a college football uh schedule yeah if we played 12 o'clock Eastern was like four games 3.30 Eastern was like another four games a couple games at six and then one game at eight yeah that would be cool yeah and it's not it does feel like more football but we forget it's the exact same amount of football that we'd have it's just at different times but yeah

Speaker 1 it's just lost the allure it used to be something very cool like whoa this is so unique now it's just oh another sunday yep they're playing a weird game over in london people on the west coast they get boned by this harder than anybody we're going to stand up for the west coast a little bit well i i don't like when west coast people are like oh it's the best time zone and then you just say like oh so what are you doing for monday night football like oh well i'm sitting on the 405 yeah or coming home from work or what do you do for london football for london morning football What do you do for college football?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Starts at 9 a.m.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you can't tailgate for something. Although, I guess you could make

Speaker 4 the argument that you could just stay up all night drunk and then roll right into football.

Speaker 1 I also don't think people in L.A.

Speaker 1 are getting up

Speaker 1 at 8 in the morning being like, man, got to make sure that I'm up for Rutgers versus Maryland. Yeah.
Probably not. But they will have to now because it will be UCLA versus Rutgers.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to watch. Okay.

Speaker 1 Nerd nugget for this game.

Speaker 7 The Ravens have rushed for at least 100 yards in 21 straight games, marking the NFL's longest active streak. San Francisco is second with 11 games.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 4 Good nerd nugget.

Speaker 4 There was the clip of Joey Porter telling Odell Beckham, like, go spend more time with your family after the end of that game. It occurred to me yesterday what he was talking about.

Speaker 4 He was probably telling him to go ask his dad to cut up more highlights of him being open downfield. That's what that meant.

Speaker 4 Odell was open a couple times, and you get fooled by the screenshots where they have like, okay, this wide wide receiver is wide open on this play. You're like, why can't you throw it to that guy?

Speaker 1 It was a great game, the Ravens-Steelers game of do you watch ball, bro? Because if you just look at the box score, you can be like, Lamar sucked. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And if you watch the game, you're like, Lamar was not the problem. Their receivers.
I think it's a bounce back game for the Ravens receivers. I think they're going to catch everything.

Speaker 4 Well, they can't drop as many passes as they did last week.

Speaker 1 They definitely can.

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 I think they maxed out.

Speaker 1 They absolutely could.

Speaker 4 I think they maxed out on that one. I do like the Ravens, though, and I'm entirely basing this on travel.

Speaker 1 Yes. Hank, what were you going to say?

Speaker 6 I mean, last week was as bad as it gets.

Speaker 1 But it could get worse. I don't know.

Speaker 6 I really don't think it could.

Speaker 1 They could try.

Speaker 2 They could try.

Speaker 1 They could definitely try.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game. Seahawks at Bengals.

Speaker 1 We have DK Metcalf saying that Devin Witherspoon will

Speaker 1 get the best of Jamar Chase. And then Jamar Chase retweeted that clip on his Twitter.

Speaker 2 So he saw it.

Speaker 4 It's the Legion of Spoon.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I had a dream, and this is, I get a dream bet once every, I'd say, I don't know, eight, nine months, and my dream bets always hit. So this is an official PFT dream bet that I'm putting out.

Speaker 4 In my sleep last night, before DK Metcalf put this out there, I dreamt that Witherspoon was going to put the absolute clamps on Jamar Chase in the game.

Speaker 4 I dreamt a post-game press conference with Jamar Chase being frustrated with him asking him if he was always open this game. I had the entire thing.
Did he say no?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was like, no. got it.
He said hats off to Devin Witherspoon. Hats off.

Speaker 1 Hats off.

Speaker 4 Hats off. So I'm betting the under on his receiving yards this week.
That's just, I got to follow the system. I think I'm 2-0 lifetime on dream bets.

Speaker 1 There's also potential weather. Weather isn't real, but there is potential weather this time of year.
We're starting to get a weather time. I think there might be some wins.

Speaker 1 Joe Burrow, though, looks like he's fully healthy. Was in practice this week, not wearing anything on his leg.
His leg does look skinnier, but he doesn't, he was moving around.

Speaker 1 He didn't have the brace on. He didn't have the sleeve on his calf.
Yeah. So I think Joe Burrow, he did the impossible.
He played himself back into health.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he played football until he was no longer injured from playing football.

Speaker 1 Yeah. This is going to be a big test, though, for the Bengals because part of me says, ooh, the Bengals are back.
And then you've got to remember they also did play the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 Right. Who are feisty.

Speaker 1 But the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 They are the Cardinals. Jamal Adams is back, apparently.
Blitzboy. I think he's back.
Blitzboy. And it's very disrespectful.

Speaker 1 But yeah, yeah,

Speaker 6 but it's also very trendy.

Speaker 1 It's a memes original, isn't it? Did you call him Blitz Boy? No.

Speaker 4 No. Maybe Jack McGuire did.

Speaker 1 Someone on the Barstool Man account started calling him Blitz Boy a few years ago.

Speaker 4 He Blitz Boy. And I just love it.
It's like Slantman and Blitz Boy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The two Avengers.

Speaker 1 Jamal Adams, you should take away some of your paraphernalia on your arms until you start playing well again. Like, he has way too much stuff going on.

Speaker 1 I think he has like like six or seven weird armbands. Yeah.
You got to you got to minimize that until you start playing well, then you can add them back.

Speaker 4 So the theme of this week is travel in the NFL. So I looked up more travel information about the Seahawks.
They've won 15 of their last 18 early kickoffs when it's 10 a.m. Pacific time.

Speaker 4 And the Seahawks are 16 and 4, including playoffs in the Eastern time zone since 2018 because Pete has them travel early. Yeah.
Pete gets it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm betting.
Pete's get it.

Speaker 4 I'm doing all these games on travel this week. So travel.

Speaker 1 The theme of your week.

Speaker 4 The theme of my week. Travel.
Travel and dreams.

Speaker 2 Travel and dreams.

Speaker 1 Okay, what's your nerd nugget?

Speaker 7 Since the start of the 2020 season, Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow has 18 touchdown passes of 40 or more yards, which is the most in the NFL.

Speaker 1 That was a hiccup from Max. Sorry,

Speaker 1 he goes deep on the

Speaker 1 last week. He throws deep.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he throws deep.

Speaker 1 I didn't even hear it. I didn't even hear this nerd nugget because I was just

Speaker 1 no. The hiccups, the hiccups.
I'm a big, just one hiccup, whatever.

Speaker 1 One hiccup? No. I don't think anyone's ever done one hiccup.
You'll see. I won't hiccup again the rest of this show.
I'm not going to bet. That just feels like it's a bet.
Oh, I like this bet.

Speaker 1 That feels like it's just food bubbling over.

Speaker 1 Did you just eat lunch?

Speaker 2 50 bucks.

Speaker 1 50.

Speaker 4 Can I tell Hank?

Speaker 1 All right, I'll tell Max. All right.

Speaker 1 You better not fucking hiccup. I'm not going to.

Speaker 4 I heard a very funny hiccup story about a guy that used to be on our podcast, William Football.

Speaker 4 Apparently, after the Water Dogs lost the championship game, it was a very somber mood in the dogs' locker room.

Speaker 4 And the coach was giving a post-game speech, thanking them for everything they did, and just like pouring his heart out there. And Billy had been enjoying the beer garden for the entire game.

Speaker 4 And he had his head down, like he was one of the guys, head in his hands, like so upset that they lost. And it was quiet.
And then Billy just lets out the biggest hiccup ever because he was hammered.

Speaker 4 And everybody in the locker room turned and stared at him.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Come on, Billy.
Billy's living his best life. He's just part of like a street team.
Yeah. Now, he's going, I think he's got a Pink Whitney tour.

Speaker 7 He's going to Tallahassee this week.

Speaker 1 Just using him for exactly what he should be used for. All right, next game.
49ers Browns. We don't know if Deshaun Watson is playing.
If it's DTR, it will be hilarious. We have record watch.

Speaker 1 McCaffrey is 14 straight games, touchdown, 15 is the record. He would be tied with O.J.
Simpson and John Riggins. And I also have a little stat for you.
This comes from Jack Hammer. Great name.

Speaker 1 Jack Hammer NFL. He's a beat reporter for the 49ers.
Jack Hammer.

Speaker 1 Kyle Shanahan has faced Jim Schwartz nine times. His teams are one and eight against him and have scored over 20 points just once.
Wow. Little

Speaker 1 something there.

Speaker 1 I still am going to take the Niners, but little something there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so right now it looks like it's priced in that. Deshaun's not playing.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 4 He's medically cleared, and I think he was medically cleared last time. What's the line? He's in play.

Speaker 1 Seven?

Speaker 4 Last night I looked at it, and I thought to myself. It was six.
Maybe now it's seven. It was nine.

Speaker 1 Okay, now it is. Now he's not going to play.
Yeah. Because it was six as of yesterday afternoon.

Speaker 4 I also read that P.J. Walker would probably get the start over DTR.

Speaker 1 That's bullshit. DTR is so funny.

Speaker 4 He is fun to watch, yeah.

Speaker 1 This would be the only spot, like the Niners have been incredible, but if you want to pick a spot, it's coming off an absolute ass whooping of the Cowboys on national television, Sunday night football, having to go to Cleveland, early kick, Jim Schwartz, Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to bet on the Browns, but if you wanted to, you could easily sell yourself on this being the place to fade the Niners.

Speaker 4 You want to hear a travel fact? Sure. I have another travel fact.

Speaker 1 These are great.

Speaker 4 So, Kyle Shanahan, 12-5 on the East Coast. Okay.
So, the Niners travel well when they go east because they leave early.

Speaker 1 They do.

Speaker 1 It's a fact. Yeah, that's a travel fact.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 12-5 straight up up or against the spread?

Speaker 4 12-5 straight up.

Speaker 1 This is a nine-point spread.

Speaker 4 It's a travel fact that Kyle Shanahan is going to be.

Speaker 1 So if you want to take the Niners to win the game.

Speaker 4 I'm actually going to take the Browns in this game. I'm going to hold my nose and take the Browns.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Going against your travel facts.

Speaker 4 It is a big spread. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some spread. Jake.

Speaker 7 The 49ers have a chance to win their 16th consecutive regular season game if they beat the Browns this week, which would mark the longest regular season winning streak in franchise history.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Whoa.

Speaker 4 Okay. Also, we did see David Njoku's face.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Football guy of the millennium.

Speaker 4 I can't believe he played.

Speaker 1 Insane. It's crazy.
Did he try to put the fire out with his face?

Speaker 4 He was lighting a fire pit in his backyard.

Speaker 1 And he was like, let me just put it out by blowing on it with my face?

Speaker 4 I think he was trying to light it. I don't think he was trying to put it out.
Crazy.

Speaker 1 Crazy. Yeah, he's a...

Speaker 4 Tough motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Tough motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game. Vikings at Bears.
Bears coming off a win, but they haven't won a home game in over a year. Calendar year.
September was the last time they won a home game.

Speaker 1 Justin Jefferson is out. Kevin O'Connell had a little fun with that.
He said, my expectations is we hit the gas with Jordan Addison this weekend. No pun intended.

Speaker 1 Pun intended.

Speaker 1 Do you think if the Bears win this game that Kirk Cousins could get traded?

Speaker 4 I think it's a possibility. And so he's got the no trade clause, right?

Speaker 4 So in order to make that work, it would have to be a team that would want him that would then give him a massive extension that he would be happy with.

Speaker 4 That, to me, is the key to getting because I don't think you're going to get Kirk to pick up his life and move his family.

Speaker 4 He's going to have to find a different Kohl's to shop at, and then that's going to be a challenge for him and his family. But he's not going to go somewhere for like four months and then leave again.

Speaker 1 Unless they're really, really good.

Speaker 4 I guess it's probably a possibility, but what really, really good team would want him?

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 4 So I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 49ers should honestly just trade for him just in case.

Speaker 4 It's

Speaker 1 a backup.

Speaker 2 Seriously,

Speaker 1 if you're the 49ers, the only thing that can derail your season is another, like, all of of our quarterbacks get hurt.

Speaker 4 Right, so the teams that would have cap space, I noticed earlier in the week, the Falcons made cap room.

Speaker 4 They did a big restructuring of a guy that they didn't think they were going to restructure right now. And then Arthur Smith was kind of coy about why they did it.

Speaker 4 I could see the Falcons trying to do something like that. That would be interesting.
Because if you're being honest, as a Falcons fan, you're not really happy with the quarterback situation right now.

Speaker 4 Right now, Desmond Ritter's peak is playing well enough to win. Right.
Right. So

Speaker 4 it's probably not going to happen, but if it were to happen, I would keep my eye on the Falcons.

Speaker 1 If the Falcons got Kirk Cousins, would they still start Desmond Ritter at home? That would be awesome. Yeah.
If they just treated Desmond in a way.

Speaker 4 Also, Kirk Cousins would look very strange in the all-black Falcons gear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe kind of an edge to him, though. Yeah.
Maybe kind of an edge.

Speaker 1 So the Bears, right now, Justin Fields, he's coming off two great games. He is on pace for 3,800 yards and 37 touchdowns.

Speaker 1 He would be the first Bears quarterback ever to throw over 30 touchdowns in a season. Eric Kramer had 29 in 1995.
There was also the year that Josh McCown and Jay Cutler in 2013 combined for 32.

Speaker 1 So, record watch for the Bears.

Speaker 1 If Justin Fields can this season, if the Bears season isn't good, but Justin Fields can just erase some of the insult stats that are out there, it would be a success.

Speaker 1 Like, if you could get 4,000 yards, if you could get over 30 touchdowns, great.

Speaker 4 I actually think the Bears were on the the receiving end of a compliment stat last week well sheter insult statted us when he was like justin jefferson is out for the game against the bears in his uh four seasons as a pro he has more yards than any bears receiver ever yeah yeah insult stat it has an insult stat no reason to put that in there but there was a compliment stat that you guys got last week dj moore his 230 yards receiving the second most in the chicago bears history that's impressive yeah when you see 230 yards bears you're like well that's probably a season season a season long record for them.

Speaker 4 But in this case, no, it's like they actually, they have a big game that they had as their number one. So it was like, oh, shit, the Bears aren't always totally garbage at receivers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he also won Offensive Player of the Week in the NFC, which I think was the first time since 1999 a Bears player has done that.

Speaker 4 Congratulations.

Speaker 1 So huge, huge.

Speaker 2 The Bears are looking up.

Speaker 4 If you were Justin Jefferson and you're sitting out this game, you're probably out for the next three games with a hamstring,

Speaker 4 and you lose to the Bears, you're probably not breaking your neck to come back and play for this season's Vikings

Speaker 4 with your contract.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Or your hamstring. Yeah, you're probably not going to want to risk that.
So this feels like it could be.

Speaker 1 It's definitely a line-in-the-sand game for the Vikings. Like, you should win this game, and if you don't, pack it all in.

Speaker 4 This is a blow it-up game. Yeah.
The Bears could blow up the Vikings this weekend. Let's see what the Vikings could be.
Give them a Viking funeral.

Speaker 1 Jake, go ahead. Give us your nerd nugget.

Speaker 7 Shootout incoming. Entering this week.

Speaker 7 Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins leads the league with 13 passing touchdowns, touchdowns, while Bears quarterback Justin Fields is tied for second in the league with 11.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the Bears are 5-0 to the over, and the Vikings are 4-1 to the over, which would be 5-0 if the refs didn't screw them against the Chiefs last weekend.

Speaker 1 The Vikings have the Niners next week, Monday night football.

Speaker 1 So it could be a blowed-up spot.

Speaker 4 What's the opposite of a look ahead?

Speaker 1 A look behind? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, check your six. Yeah.
Because rear view? Yeah. Because if you're the Vikings, you've got that.
Even if you're a Vikings player, you probably have that circled as an ass kicking next week.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's not going to be good.

Speaker 1 It's a primetime Kirk against the Niners.

Speaker 4 This is a get-your-wins-in week. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they need to win. And listen,

Speaker 1 the Bears might be back if they win this game. And I am all the way back in Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 I liken it to a relationship where, listen, Justin Fields threw some interceptions. I said some things.
You know, we both had emotional times, but at the end of the day, don't go to bed bed angry.

Speaker 1 So I'm no longer going to bed angry. And if people want to say, oh, well, you said week three, he's not the guy.
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 2 He's the guy again.

Speaker 1 It's fine. We're fine.
Everything is good. He's not the problem.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Commanders of Falcons. We're on a Sam Howell sack watch.

Speaker 1 He has been sacked 29 times. He's on pace for 99 sacks, which would crush the record of 76 David Carr in 2002.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Offensive protection hasn't been that good.
Sam Howell also needs to learn how to get the ball out sometimes. And I'm going to pay a compliment to Justin Fields.

Speaker 4 In the game against the Commanders, he was really good at throwing the ball away.

Speaker 4 I think not only did he have some of the best actual passes and the best passing attack with DJ Moore, he also threw some amazing incompletions when he was about to get sacked.

Speaker 1 Yeah, decisiveness.

Speaker 4 It's good that you've got a big guy that's using his size to throw the ball away over the top of the defenders that are coming in. Yes.
Adam. The Commanders' offensive line stinks.

Speaker 4 The defense is the biggest issue, I think. The offense

Speaker 4 should be okay. It'd be nice to run the ball once or twice because we just abandoned the running game last week.

Speaker 1 The Falcons might load up the box.

Speaker 1 Well, the Falcons' defense is actually better than

Speaker 1 they're getting credit for, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Falcons' defense isn't bad. The Commanders' defense stonk last week.

Speaker 4 And I'm on fire Del Rio. Fire Jack Del Rio.

Speaker 4 Rivera's probably not going to do it because he's done at the end of the season, so why would he torch a guy that's been his guy for a long-ass time if he's going to get fired or if he's not going to get renewed at the end of the season?

Speaker 4 But they need to do something different on defense because Jack Del Rio is doing the exact same thing where he's got four guys rushing the passer, and then you're also having your cornerbacks try to jump routes or jump routes as they're happening.

Speaker 4 And what happened to Emmanuel Forbes the last two weeks? He's gotten his ass kicked.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just look undisciplined. Yes.
That's really what it is. Like

Speaker 1 there were moments when, I mean, you were at the game, but they were highlighting on Amazon Prime, like Chase Young, just

Speaker 1 no ability to keep the edge, letting Justin Fields run around him.

Speaker 1 The Bears' running game was able to run through them.

Speaker 1 It will be an interesting game because this is...

Speaker 1 If the Commanders win, is Soupy back on?

Speaker 4 No, we're not Soupy. We're not Soupy.

Speaker 1 We're back to playing spoiler.

Speaker 4 We can play spoilers. Spoiler alert.

Speaker 4 But if they don't change the way that they're running their defense, Forbes is going to continue to get cooked this entire year, and he's going to be one of the worst cornerbacks in the NFL because he takes a lot of chances.

Speaker 4 The way you counteract that is by doing... You know what? I never thought I'd say this.

Speaker 4 I miss Dr. Heat on the Commanders.
I miss Greg Williams. Just fuck it.
Go zero blitz all the time.

Speaker 4 If you're going to have your cornerbacks jumping roots anyways, it's like, give them, get to the quarterback. Know that you will get to the cornerback if that's how you're going to play.

Speaker 1 If the Commanders can win this game, they have the Giants next week. That could, you know, it could be back to 4-3 going against the Eagles at home.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Taylor Shankey revenge game, though.

Speaker 1 And you play the Patriots the week after that.

Speaker 4 Which Desmond Ritter never lost at home.

Speaker 1 Desmond Ritter 31-0 at home, in college, and NFL. Okay, go ahead, Jake.

Speaker 7 Sam Howell has completed 10 passes of 30 or more yards through his first six career games since 2020. That's the most by a player through their first career, six first six career games.

Speaker 7 It's also the most in franchise history.

Speaker 4 Can I confess one of my deepest, darkest fears to you guys?

Speaker 1 Yeah, go ahead. I love Sam.
Mine is Max is going to hiccup again. I love Sam Howell.

Speaker 6 I think he's been just swallowing him.

Speaker 1 Hank is literally just staring at Max's face right now. I noticed that.

Speaker 4 I love Sam Howell, and I've really enjoyed watching him play, and I think he's good. I also think that

Speaker 4 I might be getting into a situation where I'm falling in love with a guy, and he might be

Speaker 4 consistently above average at quarterback.

Speaker 4 And then I'm going to get so frustrated with him in like three or four years, just like I did with Kirk Cousins, that he's just not good enough to be a great quarterback.

Speaker 4 And then I'm going to start to hate Sam Howell after that. I know it's early.
I know

Speaker 4 the body of work that we've seen is small and it's encouraging. But this is just me being burned so many times that I think Sam Howell is our guy.
Remember we did this a while ago?

Speaker 4 The difference between he's our guy, he's my guy

Speaker 4 versus the guy.

Speaker 4 I'm just afraid that Sam Howell is going to be my guy and not the guy.

Speaker 1 That's okay. That's okay.
We'll just play the game.

Speaker 4 I would take my guy, though, considering, you know, all things being equal, the history of our two teams with quarterbacks. I would take my guy.

Speaker 1 They should let Taylor Heineke play in this game.

Speaker 4 Both ways. Yeah, they should.
All-time quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 They should. Okay, next game.
Panthers at Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Yuck.

Speaker 1 So the big news out of the Panthers this week is David Tepper looks like an owner no one wants to work with.

Speaker 1 There was a couple quotes. So Frank Reich said, there's different philosophies in ownership.
Some owners kind of

Speaker 1 stay away and don't engage a lot. Other owners do.
And his philosophy is he's going to engage. And listen, it's only been a short experience, but it's it's been a good experience.
It hasn't been fun.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't characterize them as fun meetings. And he also said, I talk to Tepper every week, multiple times, usually talk either Monday or Tuesday after a game.

Speaker 1 And he's super competitive, wants to bring a winner to the Carolinas. He wants it now, wants it now, and pushes me and pushes us to that end.

Speaker 1 He wants to do whatever it takes and turn over every stone, turn it. as much as he has to to produce winning football.
So I appreciate those conversations. They're always very challenging.

Speaker 1 He's a super competitive person. person.
He's not going to sit idly by. That's a problem.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I can't imagine like a real alpha type head coach wanting to work for a guy like that.

Speaker 1 That is a,

Speaker 1 our owner. He basically in those two quotes was like, yeah, this guy is putting his nose where it shouldn't be and micromanaging a football team.
And that's not how a successful organization runs.

Speaker 1 There is no, like, you can't have that. You can't have the owner forcing the coach to have a meeting multiple times a week.

Speaker 1 well the cowboys and they were pretty good 30 years ago yeah right they they the only time the cowboys were good was when jimmy johnson a true alpha yeah was in there and they butted heads all the time but yeah that's that's not a good sign for the david tepper panthers uh he i think he's gonna have to probably adjust that because i i don't think Football lifers, football coaches love when the owner is like, hey, so why'd you run this play?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so in most sports, when an owner takes over, they are like this because it's their new toy and they're obsessed with it.

Speaker 4 And then there's always an interview that the owner will give like five years into their tenure. It's like, what have you learned as your time being an owner?

Speaker 4 And they say, well, it's that I should let the football guys be football guys and that I should take my hand off. It happens every time.

Speaker 1 And yeah, most owners are very wildly successful in business and they're like, I'm going to run my football team exactly like I ran my business and just treat everyone like that.

Speaker 1 And then they get in the building. Everyone's like, fuck this guy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's going to run it like Goldman Sachs. So, did you, my favorite fact about

Speaker 4 Tepper is that in his office on his his desk, he has a big pair of brass testicles that he keeps on his desk. So whenever anyone new walks into his office, he's like, you know why I keep these here?

Speaker 4 And they're like, no, why?

Speaker 1 He's like, because I got brass balls. Love that.

Speaker 4 So that's...

Speaker 1 Yeah, he sounds like a miserable person.

Speaker 4 Sounds like it sounds like a terrible, terrible boss.

Speaker 1 I hope Devin A-chain gets better because he is so much fun to watch. But I do think that, like,

Speaker 1 I don't know, this game is weird. The Dolphins should kill the Panthers, but at some point, the Panthers are going to cover a spread and do it a big spread like this.

Speaker 8 What is it right now?

Speaker 1 14 and a half?

Speaker 1 It's been climbing.

Speaker 4 Do you think that Chase Claypool is too slow to play on the Dolphins?

Speaker 1 They talked about maybe making him a tight end. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You might disrupt the timing because two is used to just rockets out there.

Speaker 1 I also went on Pittsburgh Radio this morning with our guys, and they tried to make fun of me for Chase Claypool because obviously the Steelers ended up getting the 30-second pick.

Speaker 1 Fun fact, Chase Claypool, before he joined the Bears last year, the Bears were 3-5.

Speaker 1 When he joined the Bears, they went 0-12,

Speaker 1 and since he's left the Bears, they're 1-1. So Chase Claypool is the human tank machine.

Speaker 1 So he actually is the greatest Bear of all time because without him, they would not have gotten the first pick and been able to trade it for the Panthers. The Panthers, I think, they I don't know.

Speaker 1 Do you think they regret that? Maybe a little?

Speaker 4 Maybe a tiny bit.

Speaker 1 Who won the trade? I think the Bears might have won that trade with the Panthers just openly saying we need a wide receiver. Yeah.

Speaker 1 EJ Moore, and also not having

Speaker 1 the worst team in the league right now.

Speaker 4 That to me sounds like a Tepper special where he's trading away one of his best players, and then like five weeks later, he's like, we really could use that exact same guy that we traded away.

Speaker 4 Yeah, whoops.

Speaker 2 Why can't we get that guy back?

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Nerdnugget.

Speaker 7 So it's 13 and a half right now.

Speaker 1 13 and a half.

Speaker 7 The Dolphins have won 14 of their past 16 home games and have never won 15 of 17 at Hard Rock Stadium since it opened in 1987. So they're playing all-time good football at home right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are. They're a good football team.
Is it going to be hot?

Speaker 4 Probably. Give me a weather update.
I need to know what those sidelines are going to be cooking at.

Speaker 1 Slow internet. Okay.

Speaker 7 High of 89, low of 67, sunny.

Speaker 4 It's going to be hot. It's okay.

Speaker 1 It's going to be hot. All right, Colts and Jaguars.
Gardner Minshew revenge game. Yep.
Gardner Minshew's starting because Anthony Richardson is out for

Speaker 6 at least a few weeks, right?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 11 So it's at least four.

Speaker 4 Four weeks at least. He's got a separated AC joint.

Speaker 4 Not what you want as a a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, definitely not.
Also, the Jaguars, I don't think, or sorry, the Colts don't win in Jacksonville. I had that stat.

Speaker 1 They have lost eight in a row in Jacksonville. That's tough.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Eight in a row. Jacksonville played like their game of the season so far last week.

Speaker 4 They beat the Bills, and so this maybe could be a letdown spot.

Speaker 1 But again, it's a scheduled win for Pete Prisco.

Speaker 4 It is a scheduled win, and Gardner Minchie coming back. That's a wild card.

Speaker 4 This feels like it could be a Gardner Revenge game big time.

Speaker 1 If you're trying to bet this game, here's a little fun fact. Only 11 teams in NFL history have returned home from Europe without a bye week.

Speaker 1 Every one of those teams was tied or trailing in the fourth quarter the following week.

Speaker 4 That's a good travel note.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that is a maybe Colts first half. I like it.
Although the Jaguars were in London for two weeks, so

Speaker 4 well that would make it harder to come back, right?

Speaker 1 Probably, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 So Colts' first half. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 Okay, what's your nerd nugget for this game?

Speaker 7 The Jaguars have defeated Indianapolis eight straight times as the the home team, outscoring the Colts 232-104.

Speaker 7 On Sunday, the Jaguars can sweep the season series against the Colts for the first time since 2017.

Speaker 4 So keep in mind, those wins include wins when Urban Meyer was the head coach and Gus Bradley was the coach. So

Speaker 4 this runs deeper than just one guy up front.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, this is the class. Remember, I think that was the Urban Meyer year when Carson Wentz went down there.
All they needed to do was win, and they lost.

Speaker 4 Yep. Some colors are just dominant over other colors.
In this case, it's like the teal, the gold, black. That's going to beat the white and the blue.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Next game, Saints at Texans.
Dennis Allen, after we talked about how bad he was as a head coach, he's moving up. He's only the ninth worst head coach now.

Speaker 1 So he was seventh worst in NFL history last week. He's ninth worst now.
Pretty big. He's putting together a win, maybe another win.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I feel like maybe the Saints, you can't judge anything against the Patriots, but their defense is good.

Speaker 4 Their defense is definitely good. The offense looked alive a little bit last week.
How many points did they get?

Speaker 1 24.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Because they had a pick six.

Speaker 1 This was like probably like 20. Yeah, this was the first time they scored over 20 in a while.

Speaker 4 It was an offensive explosion

Speaker 4 for the Saints. So, yeah, they might be back on the front foot, and their defense is actually good.
I might bet C.J. Stroud would throw an interception this week.
Yeah, so that.

Speaker 1 I think he's probably heard us talking like, hey, these guys are right. They're Stroud boys.
Just got to throw one.

Speaker 4 Yeah, throw one, and this is probably a week where it could happen because the Saints do a lot of confusing shit on defense. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know what the Saints do? They do, like, Bob Huggins does the simulated press just to get people freaking out.

Speaker 4 The Saints do a lot of simulated blitzes to get quarterbacks freaking out. Yeah.
And if you haven't seen it before,

Speaker 4 I might bet on Stroud as a positive, like, because we're rooting for him to throw an interception. Exactly.
So this is not a hater bet.

Speaker 1 No, we want him to throw a pick.

Speaker 4 Let's go, CJ.

Speaker 1 Throw a pick. Throw one check.

Speaker 4 Take a chance. Throw a pick.
CJ Stroud, throw an interception challenge.

Speaker 1 And then your NFL career officially begins. Your NFL career doesn't start until you throw at least one pick.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, nerd nugget for this game.

Speaker 7 Texans quarterback C.J. Stroud has thrown for 1,461 yards this season.
He's the fourth player in NFL history with at least 1,400 passing yards and no interceptions in his team's first

Speaker 1 games. He's going to throw a pick.

Speaker 7 Patrick Mahomes in 2019, Drew Brees in 2018, Russell Wilson in 2019.

Speaker 1 He's going to throw a pick.

Speaker 4 All great quarterbacks except for us.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, before we do the afternoon games, the night game.

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Speaker 11 afternoon sleep

Speaker 1 patriots at raiders uh i got a few things i wanted to discuss great

Speaker 1 first thing

Speaker 1 is it a revenge game if the person trying to enact revenge doesn't have the ability to enact revenge?

Speaker 1 And that would be Mac Jones getting revenge for that loss last week. Does he have the ability to get revenge? Yes.

Speaker 2 He does.

Speaker 6 Why would he not?

Speaker 1 He's not really good at quarterback.

Speaker 6 But if he plays, I mean, it's a

Speaker 6 week-by-week league.

Speaker 1 Does he have it in his toolbox to play with the game?

Speaker 6 Two weeks ago, Justin Fields, you were down on you. I just listened to you talk for an hour and a half about how Justin Fields is back and he's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So if Mac Jones has... An hour and a half? If Mac Jones has two good games.

Speaker 1 An hour and a a half.

Speaker 6 If Mac Jones has two good games, it's the same situation.

Speaker 1 Back. He could be.
Okay.

Speaker 6 So, yes, he has the ability to get rid of him.

Speaker 1 He has the ability to get rid of it.

Speaker 6 He is a big game that's revenge.

Speaker 1 Is this fair?

Speaker 4 Is this a Jacoby Myers revenge game?

Speaker 6 No, I don't think so. I think there's hundreds of players that switch teams every year.

Speaker 1 It's not there's bad blood.

Speaker 4 So, well, yeah, there probably isn't bad blood because Jacoby was probably throwing the game last year. He was probably a secret raider.

Speaker 1 This is the buy-low point for the Patriots. Like, I might actually bet the Patriots on Sunday because it can't get worse.

Speaker 6 I mean, Belichick's going to, you know, he's going to get up for McDaniels, Brady. Like, there is a lot of internal storylines.

Speaker 6 I don't think Jacoby Myers is one, but I think Belichick versus McDaniels, he's going to...

Speaker 6 Not that he goes any less hard, but he's going to do everything in his power to beat him.

Speaker 6 And he probably also knows a little bit more, and maybe it works reverse, McDaniels knowing more about Belichick, but they know each other well.

Speaker 4 I think it's not that. Belichick definitely held some stuff out on McDaniels because he knew he was going to leave and probably go to a team that would be a competitor.

Speaker 4 So he probably didn't teach McDaniels everything he knew, knowing that one day he would have to defeat him.

Speaker 4 But I do think that McDaniels is probably, this is like a big game for him because he wants to take Belichick out. It would be a big feather in his cap.

Speaker 4 He's going to be doing some stupid shit on offense. Stupid shit.
He's going to be kicking field goals on first down now.

Speaker 4 He's going to set new precedent in the NFL with the level of inside of his own brainness that he's going to have to tap into.

Speaker 1 The next question I have for you, Hank, there's been a debate, Brady versus Belichick. People are obviously burying Belichick right now.

Speaker 1 I think as a podcast, we should actually change the debate and make it Dante Scarneckia was the GOAT.

Speaker 1 He was

Speaker 1 right. So should we just do that? Be like, hey, why, like option three?

Speaker 1 I like that. Okay, all right, so that's good.

Speaker 2 And then the last question I have for you is Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 There is a lot of conversations going on. You've seen them.

Speaker 1 Is there a chance if Andy Reid coaches for another five, ten years with Patrick Mahomes, he could be the GOAT?

Speaker 6 If they win

Speaker 6 five more Super Bowls, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 But just from

Speaker 1 four more.

Speaker 1 If they get six?

Speaker 6 He would have to get seven.

Speaker 1 Why would he have to get seven?

Speaker 6 Because Balchek has six.

Speaker 1 Right, but if he has more wins than Belch, he's 50 behind, I think, in wins right now.

Speaker 6 I think if they both have the same amount of wins.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Now, the only other question.

Speaker 4 If they both had the same amount of Super Bowls, it would go to head-to-head.

Speaker 1 But Andy Reed-to-head.

Speaker 4 That's the first tiebreaker.

Speaker 1 But the question, I only asked him.

Speaker 6 Have they played in a Super Bowl, Max?

Speaker 1 I'm trying to...

Speaker 1 This show is part. I was just looking at Schwerber

Speaker 2 to head a home run.

Speaker 1 Was it 210 again? No, it's more. It's

Speaker 1 3-1 today. Okay.

Speaker 6 All right, then we'll do it. So Belchek first, Andy Reid, if they get tied, it's head-to-head, which.

Speaker 1 I'm no, Hank, I think Bill Belichick is the greatest coach of all time.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying to you, Hank, is this is part of my take. We try to get in front of takes.
I think that the Andy Reid is the greatest coach of all time. Will eventually be a conversation.

Speaker 1 If he stays in Kansas City, why would he leave? He's got Patrick Mahomes because Andy Reid without Patrick Mahomes was a very good coach.

Speaker 1 Bill Belichick, without Tom Brady, his record has not been great.

Speaker 4 How many Super Bowls have been able to do that?

Speaker 1 I mean, has Andy Reed got last that much longer?

Speaker 6 Like, if Belichick, you know, which I don't think he's going to retires this year.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 Andy Reid has Patrick Mahomes. Why would he ever walk away from that? Because he's old.
Andy Reid is 65 years old.

Speaker 6 Bill Belichick's 70. That's when does your retirement kick in?

Speaker 1 Well, if he coaches for another eight years,

Speaker 1 that's a lot of wins with Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 6 I'm, again, but his 401k is probably popping. He's like, damn, I've been saving

Speaker 6 65 hit.

Speaker 1 Please don't be upset. I'm not upset

Speaker 1 for throwing out a take take that I know is going to happen.

Speaker 1 I guarantee you within the next year, this will be a conversation that had.

Speaker 6 If he gets to six Super Bowls, it's worth having a conversation. Until then, I won't even entertain it.
Okay.

Speaker 4 PFT. Thank you for calling on me, Hank.

Speaker 4 PFT Commenter, Barcelona Sports, Part of My Take Podcast. Hank, how many Super Bowls has Bill Belichick gotten to without Tom Brady?

Speaker 4 As a head coach? As a head coach.

Speaker 4 Because

Speaker 4 we could play the assistant coach game, too. Yeah, we could.
If you wanted to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's do that. Okay.

Speaker 4 Andy Reid as an assistant coach.

Speaker 1 Andy Reed won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 Was he Pack with the Jeff Coordinator of the greatest defensive team of all time? He won a Super Bowl. One of the greatest defensive teams of all time.

Speaker 4 But so your answer is zero, right? So Andy Reid got to a Super Bowl without Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 6 Okay, but he's still the league MVP on his team.

Speaker 1 The reason why I think

Speaker 1 Belichick.

Speaker 4 Was McNabb the MVP that season?

Speaker 6 I think so.

Speaker 8 I don't know. Did he win MVP that year?

Speaker 1 I don't think he ever went. I think he he ever won.
Oh, no. I was thinking of something else.
Yeah, Yikes. I think the,

Speaker 1 and Andy Reid was, those Chiefs teams with Alex Smith won a lot of games. Like, he was competitive every single year.

Speaker 1 The reason why I think the Belichick slander is a little foolish is people forget that Tom Brady wasn't always Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 That's the part that people miss.

Speaker 2 Like, Tom Brady

Speaker 1 became this incredible passer, offensive, like, insanity

Speaker 1 in, whatever, the last two-thirds of his career. The first.

Speaker 6 First dynasty, Tom Brady, what?

Speaker 1 Well, well, no, he was still very good, but like Bill Belichick's defenses were insane. Like, that part gets missed a little.

Speaker 1 Not by me, not by you.

Speaker 1 So, you think there's a chance Andy Reid, the GOAT, might be a conversation that's started?

Speaker 6 If he wins four more Super Bowls, yes.

Speaker 8 Then you'll accept it. Okay.

Speaker 6 I'll have the conversation.

Speaker 1 Because his record without Patrick Mones has been a lot better.

Speaker 4 But, however, if he wins as many Super Bowls and

Speaker 4 he's the number one most all-time wins as a head coach, it would be real tough to say that he's not the greatest. It would be very tough.

Speaker 1 Because Belichick's going for Shula, but Andy Reid, if you say Andy Reid's going to coach another eight years and you have Patrick Mahomes, that's like 12, 13 wins a year.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of wins.

Speaker 4 Andy's lost some weight, too. He has lost some weight.

Speaker 1 Andy's looking good. He's feeling spry.
This also is a roundabout way of being like, Andy Reid, stay for as long as possible so Matt Nadie doesn't become the head coach.

Speaker 1 Okay, I was just having a discussion, Hank. Yeah, it's fine.
I think Bill Welchick's the best coach of all time.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to predict where the national media will go.

Speaker 4 PFT. Yeah, thank you, Big Cat.
I have a question for you. Yes.
Who do you think Tom Brady is rooting for in this matchup? Ooh.

Speaker 1 Probably the team is.

Speaker 4 I asked Big Cat. So he's investing in the Raiders.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think the team he owns.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 4 It's just interesting to think about. He's going to be in Vegas.
He might put some money down.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 8 where's your head at for this game?

Speaker 1 Are you going to get up for it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think the

Speaker 6 even that little, you know, Tom Brady, Josh McDaniels. It got you going.
It's a little rivalry there.

Speaker 1 If I'm being...

Speaker 6 I think the Patriots are going to win this game.

Speaker 1 I actually kind of think so, too.

Speaker 4 I think that the rivalry, I think the McDaniels-Belichick thing and the Brady versus Belichick thing, I think that gives Belichick an advantage in this situation.

Speaker 4 I think it actually weakens the Raiders because of the stupid shit that McDaniels is going to try to do.

Speaker 1 He's going to try to output Belichick.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and then Garoppolo is probably going to try to play the best game of his life to show Robert Kraft, like, hey, you could have had me. You could have had me.

Speaker 1 You could have had me. You could have had this.

Speaker 4 And you could have had the young buck. And when he tries to do that, he's probably going to make some mistakes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hit us with the nerd nugget.

Speaker 7 Patriots Raiders. You guys just had a big debate about Andy Reid and Bill Belichick.
This one is similar to that.

Speaker 7 Bill Belichick has won at least one game in 50 different stadiums, including the postseason.

Speaker 7 The only two current stadiums where he hasn't recorded a win are Legion Stadium, home of the Raiders, where they're playing this week, and U.S. Bank Stadium.

Speaker 7 Andy Reid is second with wins in 43 different stadiums.

Speaker 4 Belicek never won in Germany either, but he'll get that chance. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We also, the debate, just to clarify, is not a debate right now.

Speaker 9 It's a, will it be a debate?

Speaker 6 It's a potential future.

Speaker 1 Will it potentially dispute? We're debating whether the debate will happen.

Speaker 4 Yeah, embrace debate.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly.

Speaker 4 Do you agree with us that the debate will happen?

Speaker 9 No.

Speaker 1 You don't think so? I don't think he's going to win. I think you're wrong on that.
You're wrong, but people debate it.

Speaker 1 But he doesn't have to win four Super Bowls for everyone in the media to debate that.

Speaker 1 You don't think it's valid in your mind, but I'm saying if he wins two more Super Bowls, the debate will happen.

Speaker 6 The debate could happen right now in that logic.

Speaker 1 Well, thankfully, we're not having that debate. We're having a debate whether the debate will happen.

Speaker 4 And you don't think that the debate will happen? No. I'd like to debate you on that point.
I think that it will.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I, yeah.

Speaker 1 We both think that it will.

Speaker 1 I don't. That's a future debate that we're having currently currently as a debate.

Speaker 6 No, I think it will just because there's people in the national media who like to tear down the Patriots.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it will.

Speaker 1 So then you want to move with us to the debate. We just won that debate about the debate.

Speaker 6 All right, sure. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 Okay, we won the debate.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 4 That was good.

Speaker 1 That was really good. All right, next game.
Cardinals-Rams.

Speaker 1 I don't really have anything besides the Cardinals always lose to the Rams.

Speaker 4 So I'm looking at my sheet, and I put down notes next to every single game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 This one, Cardinals at Rams, absolutely nothing next to it. The only interesting thing I can find out about this game, there is a revenge game factor here, Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Did you know that?

Speaker 4 That's right.

Speaker 4 Offensive lineman Coleman Shelton. Shelton is the Rams' starting center and has only played NFL games while the Rams,

Speaker 4 he's only played for the Rams, has been with them for the last five seasons. However, he spent time with the Cardinals in 2018 on their practice squad for part of that season.
Whoa. So,

Speaker 4 this is the official Coleman Shelton game. Besides that, who cares?

Speaker 1 Yeah, who cares? I mean, I do care. I'm not going to bet on it, so I will care, but yeah.

Speaker 4 I do care because I do think that the Rams are going to win eight games.

Speaker 1 This is a must-win for you.

Speaker 4 For me, I've got this on the schedule as a must-win, otherwise, it's a disaster.

Speaker 1 Personal must-win.

Speaker 7 Remind Big Cotton and PFT to bet Rams Cardinals tie.

Speaker 1 Why? Okay, all right.

Speaker 6 I'm in for that. I'm at the end of my

Speaker 11 preseason PowerPoint. You guys tell me to bet Rams, Cardinals, tie.

Speaker 4 That really fucks with my future then. Or does a tie count as 0.5?

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 Whatever it was coming out of your mouth after, does a tie count was going to be wrong.

Speaker 1 It should count as 0.5. It should count.
But it does not.

Speaker 1 Why? It definitely does not.

Speaker 4 No, no, 100%. It doesn't because it's the win total.
It's not wins.

Speaker 1 It's not called the loss total. It wins and ties.

Speaker 4 If it was a loss total, that I was going to say.

Speaker 6 But why do they set half points in those lines?

Speaker 4 So that eight wins and seven doesn't. Okay.

Speaker 1 We have a full-fledged fire going outside of the New York studio right now.

Speaker 4 Why did we want to bet on a time?

Speaker 7 I just had to watch it back. I should have done it before.

Speaker 7 This is on me.

Speaker 1 You should have. Yeah.
You know what? I'm suspending your nerd nugget for this game. Okay.

Speaker 4 I'm going to unsuspend it. Okay.

Speaker 1 I want to hear it. I did.
The minute I suspended it, it was like, but what if it's really important? Yeah. Yeah.
The Cardinals. I'm going to grade your nerd nugget for this game.

Speaker 7 Fair. The Cardinals' 716 rushing yards this season are the most through the team's first five games of a season since they rushed for 850 in 1988.

Speaker 1 D-minus because James Connor's hurt. Right.

Speaker 1 Doesn't really matter anymore.

Speaker 7 The Cardinals.

Speaker 7 De Mercado.

Speaker 4 Try to think of the best running backs they've had.

Speaker 1 Beanie Wells also doesn't help with the amazing.

Speaker 6 I was hoping for a stat that

Speaker 1 tied in the middle.

Speaker 1 These two teams always play ties.

Speaker 1 Every time I'm talking about the last one on my AirPods back to the last 14 times they've tied.

Speaker 4 I think I know maybe what it is. Does it have something to do with the NFC West cycle? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 But McVay does beat the Cardinals. He does? Yeah, the Cardinals are 2-11 in their last 13 games against the Rams.

Speaker 4 But this isn't Kingsbury. That isn't.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 He's going to listen. All right, let's go to the next game.

Speaker 4 I'm going to bet a tie.

Speaker 1 Eagles, Jets. It's called hedging.
Eagles, Jets are a producer battle. Memes versus Max.

Speaker 1 The New York Jets have never beaten the Eagles. 0-12 in the history of their franchises going back to 1973.
But they also

Speaker 1 have never employed the strategy of kissing the other quarterback. So Robert Salah said when they do the tush push this week, he is expecting his team to give Jalen Hurts 11 kisses on defense.

Speaker 4 Are the New York Jets horny?

Speaker 4 My column.

Speaker 1 11 kisses on defense.

Speaker 1 So I actually, listen, it hasn't been stopped yet. Why not try to kiss him? I have a follow-up to

Speaker 1 that kiss commentary. Fletcher Cox has now said that the Eagles are planning on kissing Brees Hall 11 times.
Oh, we're going to play kissball. It's kiss ball.
We're kissing our boys.

Speaker 1 We're kissing our boys in 2023.

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 they should play kiss ball. Go to the middle of the field, throw the ball up.
Let's see. Who would your starting two on kiss ball be? Jason Kelsey and who?

Speaker 1 You got to say Fletcher Cox. Okay.

Speaker 1 But like Jalen Carter is the way I want to say. They throw the ball in the air and they kiss as many times.
They kiss as many times as they can until the ball hits the ground and then the Jets go.

Speaker 1 And whoever whoever wins kissball wins the game. Kiss.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 We should play kissball in the new office.

Speaker 4 I can see Aaron Rodgers being really good at kissball. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He seems like a don't don't kiss me on my lips.

Speaker 4 He's very, very friendly. Remember how many times he's hugging people?

Speaker 2 That's true. He likes to hug.

Speaker 1 He's a big hugger. So memes and Max, what's the bet?

Speaker 1 Loser has to kiss the winner.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I like that bet. Yep, because it's not.

Speaker 2 I can't.

Speaker 1 I got to focus.

Speaker 1 I got to focus on no because if memes loses and kisses you on the lips It's not like you kissed him you got kissed. I can't be worried about Eagles Jets right now as well

Speaker 6 Your series will be over by then.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you don't be over in four hours nice try Hank actually it will be over yeah no matter what series no matter what yes loser has to kiss the winner

Speaker 1 sure okay deal

Speaker 1 perfect fine on the lips rolled over for that one we never said lips no I mean it's a kiss on the lips we never but that that then there's no winner no loser no because that's what I said.

Speaker 1 If memes has to kiss you, it's not like you're kissing him. You're just getting kissed.

Speaker 2 You should have to give it

Speaker 1 an itch. I'll kiss my boy.

Speaker 1 No, it's got to be on the tush.

Speaker 6 No, it's got to be like Max. Whoever wins does the post-game video talking about the win, and then the loser has to sneak in with the cheek kiss.

Speaker 1 But is that better for the

Speaker 1 yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They both lose.
That's good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's actually.

Speaker 1 It's not good.

Speaker 8 He gets kissed.

Speaker 1 We win. On the lips, yeah.
We do win.

Speaker 2 I want hand behind the head.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 Where do the lips come in?

Speaker 1 The lips are out. No, the lips are in.
You said, I don't care. I'll fucking kiss my boys on the lips.
That's what you said just two seconds ago. I said I'll kiss my boys.

Speaker 1 I love kissing my boys. You do.

Speaker 1 I think it should be.

Speaker 1 He's been sick for like.

Speaker 1 He's been sick forever.

Speaker 1 Cheek.

Speaker 4 Cheek?

Speaker 4 But cheek.

Speaker 1 Winner gets the video, loser gets the video. Click, and

Speaker 1 you're going backwards here.

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 it should be an open mouth kiss on the cheek.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, open mouth. On the cheek.

Speaker 1 Open mouth. Hickey.
You got to give the loser has to give the winner. No, the winner has to give the loser a hickey.

Speaker 4 Peck on cheek. Open mouth kiss on cheek.
You have to suck his face a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like a.

Speaker 1 No tongue. A little bit.
But it has to go in open mouth, like this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Okay, okay, okay.
If you want to do tongue, you can do tongue. You can do it if you want.
You can do tongue if you want. Okay, Okay, deal.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Love is love. What's your nerd nugget, Jake? He's trying to multitask.

Speaker 7 The Eagles are 12-0 all time versus the Jets, the best record by any NFL franchise in a head-to-head series.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 What? That's what I said. You said it.
At the beginning.

Speaker 7 So the Eagles are 12-0 against the Jets and 6-0 against Houston. Minnesota is 5-0 against Houston.
Sorry for not listening up. That's okay.

Speaker 1 No, you're multitasking. You have to multitask.
Good nerd.

Speaker 4 I give that an A-plus.

Speaker 1 A-plus nerd nugget. All right.
Lions at Bucks.

Speaker 1 The Lions at Bucs. The Bucks are wearing their Creamsicles.

Speaker 4 That's all you got to know.

Speaker 4 I want to know what the Bucs' career record in the Creamsicles is.

Speaker 1 Oh, I have it. I think it's.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Probably the worst ever.

Speaker 1 100 wins, 223 losses.

Speaker 4 It's really bad.

Speaker 1 That's as their main jersey, not as the throwback. They've worn the throwback a few times.

Speaker 1 In their first 21 years existing, so they wore the creamsicles from 1976 to 1996. 21 seasons, three playoff appearances.
They got rid of them in 1996.

Speaker 1 The next six years, they went to the playoffs five out of the six years and won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I don't know why you do a throwback in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 The Crimson's are just the worst jersey in sports. Not, I like how they look, but it is just, if you're a Bucs fan, you can't like these jerseys.

Speaker 4 The only good thing that happened in these Crimsicles is Mike Allstott.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think he was a rookie.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's right. As a rookie, you had Mike Allstott running people over wearing a pirate that was winking at you, which was the most emasculating thing that's ever happened in sports.

Speaker 4 But yeah, they're cool uniforms.

Speaker 4 I like it when people wear them as throwbacks to a Bucs game when they're wearing the regular jerseys.

Speaker 1 On Jersey.

Speaker 4 On Jersey. It's a great, you're like, oh, you got the cream skulls? Yeah, the cream skulls.
It's pretty nice.

Speaker 1 Hank, did you know that Steve Young played for the Bucs? Nope. Oh, okay.
Did you also know that

Speaker 1 Jerome Bettis played for the Rams?

Speaker 6 I did not know that until we did that in the last year.

Speaker 1 Everyone knew that.

Speaker 4 I've got a Baker Mayfield quote. He's on on our side, big cat.
Oh. We can count Baker Mayfield as an ally.
He said

Speaker 4 when Jared Goff was not mentioned among some of the top NFL quarterbacks by Ryan Fitzpatrick, he said, coming from someone that needed a fresh start as well, Jared's a stud. Yes.

Speaker 4 He also went on to say that Jared's great at play action, which, again,

Speaker 4 we want to take that, but expand it. Jared's great.
Great.

Speaker 4 I'm going to revise that quote. Jared's a stud.

Speaker 1 He's great. He's great.

Speaker 2 He's great.

Speaker 1 Also, Lions Bucks, first memory that comes to my mind, our guy, Tony Scheffler, doing the touchdown end zone celebration where he did the sword like a pirate. Yep.
Fucking badass.

Speaker 4 A lot is going to be based on whether Gibbs and St. Brown play for me.

Speaker 1 I think St. Brown's going to play.
I don't think Gibbs will play. St.
Brown was practicing this week.

Speaker 4 I think if one of the two of them play,

Speaker 4 I'm going to stay betting on the Lions to hammer teams.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Lions. The only thing that makes me nervous, the Road Lions, Outdoor Cats, a little different.
But yeah, I don't know. The Bucs.
are the Bucs good?

Speaker 4 I think they are. I think Baker's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but as, like, who have they played?

Speaker 1 Vikings? Bad.

Speaker 1 They're in a lot of one squares.

Speaker 1 Bad.

Speaker 1 Saints.

Speaker 1 Bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Bucks. Yeah.
Eagles, good. Good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just something to think about.

Speaker 4 So if one of the two of those guys plays, I'm sticking with my formula. I'm betting on the Lions.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, Nerd Nugget.

Speaker 7 It was about Kareem Skulls.

Speaker 7 You'd be stole it from me. 1976 to 1997, winning record just three times.

Speaker 4 You stole it from Big Cat. Yeah.

Speaker 7 No, you beat me to it.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's pretty crazy.

Speaker 7 There's such cool colors and they stink in them. Yeah, they were a bad franchise.
Also, I found it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I can play it, but basically, it was the same day that Cooper Cup got re-injured and that speech from the Cardinals coach got released.

Speaker 1 Beep, beep, beep, beep. And you both said, you said,

Speaker 7 let's fade the Rams and the Cardinals. And you're like, just bet.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, that makes sense. All right, okay.
Got it. I mean, I have to trespass them.
We'll have to do a tie.

Speaker 1 Last game, Giants, Bills. Here's a fun fact for New York teams.
You ready for this?

Speaker 1 Since 2019, the Jets and the Giants have played in 25

Speaker 1 night games. What's their record? 25 night games.

Speaker 4 Jets and the Giants, 25 nights games.

Speaker 1 25 night games.

Speaker 4 Let's see. The Jets beat the Bills this year.

Speaker 1 That's one win. 4-21.

Speaker 4 I'm going to say

Speaker 4 2-23.

Speaker 2 That is correct.

Speaker 1 Two and twenty-three. That is so bad.
That was this year and the Odell

Speaker 1 touch? 2019, so I don't know if that's earlier than that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Crazy. That's wild.
Joke.

Speaker 6 Crazy. That's the joke of a sports town.

Speaker 1 Crazy.

Speaker 4 I mean, the only team that plays in New York is the Bills.

Speaker 6 Yeah. No, but we've said it a million times, but they have two teams for every sport, and they're terrible in all of them.

Speaker 1 That was a stat, I think, on advisors Jerry gave us that the Giants have not lost in the state of New York since like 1993.

Speaker 4 That's pretty impressive. So they've just beaten the Bills like four times.
So they're going to go, they're going to have another chance again. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Wink Martindale had a great quote about Josh Allen. He said, he's got Dan Marino's arm, Derrick Henry's legs, and Steph Curry's mindset.

Speaker 4 So you couldn't think of another quarterback to use as a mindset once we went basketball on that. Yeah.
But

Speaker 4 it seems like Wink building him up a little bit. Just like gassing up the guy, making him think that he's got it made, that there's going to be another easy game for him.
And then boom, hit him.

Speaker 4 The worst thing that happened to the giants was that the bills lost last week yes if the bills had if the bills had steamrolled the jaguars and then they come back and then they get the giants i think that they crush them the giants feel like their their season might be

Speaker 1 bad it's very

Speaker 4 seems like things are just falling apart completely it's very if they if they have any fight Brian Dable will be like, hey, this is my revenge game.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to my son's birthday party.

Speaker 4 My personal revenge game. I'm eliminating my other son's birthday entirely.
We're not celebrating. He's not getting any presents.

Speaker 4 I need to show Buffalo that I've got something cooking for him. And I don't know, maybe make some D's nuts jokes at the line that'll throw off Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 I don't know what the formula is for the Giants, but

Speaker 1 it feels like the shit pumping. It feels bad.
The Bills are scoring

Speaker 1 0.5 points per play.

Speaker 1 So actually the leader in the NFL is the Dolphins. They're 0.586 points per play.
The Giants are 31st, 0.194 points per play.

Speaker 4 That's so foreign to me to think about rooting for a team where every play is worth half a point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, half a point. The Patriots are last in 0.17

Speaker 1 points per play. But yeah, the Dolphins, the Niners, and the Bills are all averaging a half a point or more per play.
That's insane. Brutal.
That's insane. Nerd Nugget.

Speaker 7 The Bills lead the NFL with 21 sacks, the most by Buffalo in the first five games of a season in team history.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Wait, is the Giants offensive line good?

Speaker 1 They're not.

Speaker 1 Not good. Not good at all.
Not good.

Speaker 1 Okay, should we do picks? Let's do our picks. What is the standings and who's picking first? Picks in the warm-up flight.

Speaker 7 I am 6-3-1. Max is 5-5.
Memes is 3-7.

Speaker 1 Oof.

Speaker 1 By the way, we do have... It is confirmed the Tuesday of

Speaker 1 Super Bowl week will be the when we're going to probably do a pay-per-view as well so people can watch from home.

Speaker 1 Oh man, we're getting we're getting close to having to put you boys in a box. Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, we're putting you in a box.

Speaker 4 I thought there was a chance you're just gonna forget about that.

Speaker 1 No, haven't forgotten. No, no, no, no.
We've been waiting for the new office. We're gonna put you in the boat.
We'll put you in a box.

Speaker 7 Will Jimmy Butler be in their box?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jimmy Butler will be in their box. In their sweet, yeah, in their sweet box.

Speaker 1 Okay, who goes first? Well,

Speaker 1 main event.

Speaker 7 Big Cat 5-3 and 2. PFT 6-4.
Hank, 5-4-1. It's very even.

Speaker 1 Okay, very even.

Speaker 7 So we've done five weeks.

Speaker 4 So that means me first?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I took the Lunder first overall last week.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I want to

Speaker 1 PFT,

Speaker 1 Hank, Big Cat, Memes, Max, Mate.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 4 I want to take the Lunder so bad just to steal it from Jake.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, I'm going to stick to my travel plans, and I'm going to take the Baltimore Ravens minus four. It's a time zone bet.
Doing time zones. I like it.

Speaker 1 I like it. It's the Titans.

Speaker 6 I'm gonna go Eagles Jet Eagles minus seven against the Jets okay Philly's riding high NLCS bound stop they're just gonna roll over the Jets here stop nice I like that all right I'll go with the Bengals minus two and a half at home against Seahawks

Speaker 2 memes

Speaker 1 Bears Vikings over 43 Bears Vikings over 43 and a half for memes good pick

Speaker 1 I would like to take the Browns. The Browns, plus eight and a half.
Plus eight and a half. Bros.
Where are they playing? Nine and

Speaker 1 the Shiners. That's really gross, aren't you? Plus eight and a half.

Speaker 4 I'm going to take. You're upset you didn't think about that, Hank?

Speaker 2 The Lunder.

Speaker 1 The China goes

Speaker 7 3-0. We're 2-0 right now.
It's 41.5, so it's a lower number, but I believe in the Lunder going 3 for 3. Ravens Titans.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Max. Oh, no, Jake gets another one.

Speaker 1 I will also go with

Speaker 7 the Texans, plus 1.5 at home against the Saints.

Speaker 1 Okay. I like that pick.
I'm going to go with the Bucs Lions under.

Speaker 1 What are we at? 42.5. 42.5.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Memes? Cowboys minus 2. Cowboys minus 2 Monday Night Football.
I will go with

Speaker 1 the Saints Texans under 41.5.

Speaker 6 Saints just play unders. Unlike Max, I support the Friends of Our Show.
I love Jared. Love Baker Mayfield.
I'm going to go Lions Bucks over 42.5.

Speaker 1 Nice. Move down head to head.

Speaker 6 Shootout in the cream school. Suck it.

Speaker 4 Unlike some people on the show,

Speaker 1 hasn't hiccuped yet. Well,

Speaker 6 we break, and he was out in the bathroom chugging water upside down.

Speaker 1 Not true.

Speaker 1 In the slightest.

Speaker 4 Unlike some people on the show, I support the New England Patriots. So I'm going to take the Patriots plus three.
It's Belichick McDaniels. I'm taking Belichick.

Speaker 4 Yep, he's going to be fired up. Plus three.
Sprinkle Moneyline. Wow.

Speaker 7 Also, pancakes. I'm now in last place.

Speaker 7 Hank continues to dominate with 28. Max, 19.
Big cot 17. Memes 14.
PFT 12. Mean 9.

Speaker 1 All right. Wow.
Long way to go. Wow.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Should we do some fantasy lad boys before we get to our interview with Jared Carabas talking baseball? Let's do it. Oi.

Speaker 1 Oi. Oi.
Oi. Oi.
Hello, Matt.

Speaker 1 Roy, here's the thing, right, Rob.

Speaker 6 My name is Cormac McLagan. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Starting this week as Jada Pinkett. Oh,

Speaker 6 she's back on the market. Her and Will Smith have apparently been separated for seven years, but it's public now.

Speaker 4 That's fucking wild.

Speaker 6 She's going to be stacking bodies left and right.

Speaker 1 Right, hey, sign me up, right? Right, buds? Sign me up.

Speaker 6 My setum

Speaker 6 is Logan Paul.

Speaker 1 Logan Paul.

Speaker 6 This happened to him in our home country, London. At the press conference, he got smoked with a microphone in the face.

Speaker 6 He might not be fighting on Saturday night. What a little bitch.

Speaker 1 He's a little cunt, isn't he? Too weird. Well,

Speaker 2 like a nice cunt. Like, you call your friends.

Speaker 6 Hey, what's up? Hey, what's up, cunt? Too worried about the fucking lawsuits, not worried enough about the fight game.

Speaker 1 Thinking about Pokemon. I'm thinking about the fight game.

Speaker 2 Thinking about Pokemon, not getting poked in the face with a microphone, huh?

Speaker 6 My sleeper. Deshaun Watson.
Oh. Everyone thinks he's not going to play.
I think this might be the week he comes back against all odds.

Speaker 1 Defeats the best team in football.

Speaker 4 Quite a detective, aren't you? Elementary, Mordeu Watson.

Speaker 2 Indeed, indeed, indeed.

Speaker 6 Deshauni.

Speaker 1 Deshaun.

Speaker 13 Hello, I'm Queen Elizabeth.

Speaker 1 Hey, Queen.

Speaker 2 You dead bitch.

Speaker 1 You're queen. That's not very nice.

Speaker 1 That's not very nice. You and your pedophile

Speaker 13 son. I'm speaking from beyond the grave and I'm.

Speaker 1 Murderer.

Speaker 13 I'm starting soup. It's you can eat.
You can eat soup now because the weather has changed quite a bit.

Speaker 4 Nice. It's good.

Speaker 13 It's good meal for proper, proper bad British teeth, too. You can just lurp it right down.

Speaker 6 Diana loves soup.

Speaker 1 She did

Speaker 1 her off the road, you fucking bitch. She did.

Speaker 13 I'm sitting for Titans this week because it's a, it's a, they're gonna be very, very sleepy indeed. Now I'm in the big sleep right now, so I know all about it.

Speaker 13 And my my sleeper this week is me because I'm tired, cause I'm dead.

Speaker 6 He's a real weirdo.

Speaker 13 Oh dear, we raised raised him the best we could.

Speaker 1 What's up, you fuckers? It's Terrence Titty Snatcher.

Speaker 4 Hey, what's up, Terrence Titty Snatcher?

Speaker 1 Terrence Titty Snatcher. My stardom this week is Aaron Rodgers.
He's making a million bucks talking in a microphone. That's a lot of quid.

Speaker 6 What's the conversion rate on that?

Speaker 1 That's a 10 billion pounds. That's unreal.
My sitem is I don't myself. I didn't write a sitem here.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I heard Ryan Rosillo was making $3 million a year as a guest on part of my tape.

Speaker 1 I heard that too. Jared Carabas got paid for 15 board apes for his appearance coming up.
My sitem is myself. I forgot to do a sitem.

Speaker 1 I'll do a sitem.

Speaker 4 Sit him's all right. This is pretty good.
It's the opposite of standards.

Speaker 1 This is pretty good. My sit him is Max because he's going to have to sit a lot to watch his Phillies win the World Series.
They've already won the NLCS if you're listening to this.

Speaker 8 Congrats. Max.

Speaker 1 No, they haven't.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, they have.

Speaker 4 That's like standing up cricket, innit? Yeah.

Speaker 1 My sleep is divorced because Lauren Barber,

Speaker 1 but Bober,

Speaker 1 Lauren Bobert got divorced finally, and her and her husband looked like they were making out in the parking lot.

Speaker 4 So she's on for market, isn't she?

Speaker 1 Divorce doesn't look so bad. Hey, Lauren, come over here.
Crazy. A lot of people replying, that's not what my divorce looked like.
Open invite.

Speaker 4 Open invite to Lauren Barber and Jada Pinkett to come on the show.

Speaker 1 She just makes hot videos. Gets me all hot in my knickers.

Speaker 2 Alright.

Speaker 4 That's gotta be some proper hot sex, ain't it? Oh, yeah. Divorce sex with your ex-husband.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 what? What?

Speaker 1 Bonk, bunk list. Oh, bonk list.
Yeah, no, that's fine. Long bobbit's gonna be featured on the bonk list and shit.
That's not, that's a bunker list. That's a bunk list for me, Queen Elizabeth.

Speaker 1 You gotta show you guys the video.

Speaker 13 I would really like to see her cunt.

Speaker 1 I'll show you your video, and you guys can tell me. Lord Bobba.

Speaker 1 She's got spooky vagina.

Speaker 1 The ghost.

Speaker 1 The ghost of Queen Elizabeth's vagina.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. I got to find this video.
It was hot. I've seen it.

Speaker 8 Oh, you just saw it? They were like making out.

Speaker 4 I saw she was in the parking lot. She was like vaping behind the car.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's a baddie. She's a baddie.
I want.

Speaker 1 I want her. She's a bad, bad girl.

Speaker 1 She's a baddie. All right.
Let's get to our interview with Jared Karabas, big-time baseball writer. Great discussion with him.

Speaker 4 Is he a writer?

Speaker 1 Is he right?

Speaker 4 Tweets. Yeah, he tweets, yeah.
He tweets.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on an up-and-coming baseball rider in the scene. He's trying to make a name for himself.
This is the first MLB playoffs that he's covering.

Speaker 1 It is Jared Karabis. We thought we'd give him a shot.
It's Jared Karabas.

Speaker 1 He works.

Speaker 4 I don't know where he works, but he used to work with us.

Speaker 1 No, he works at DraftKings. Baseball is dead as his podcast.
Please go subscribe. Jared, good to see you.

Speaker 15 Good to see you guys.

Speaker 1 Excited to have you on. First question.

Speaker 1 So just for context, we're taping this on Thursday, mid-morning. So three out of four of these series are over.
We have the ALCS set. We have half of the NLCS set.

Speaker 1 We have Braves versus Phillies game four tonight. So that's why we won't, you know, definitively say which one is winning.
But my first question for you was:

Speaker 1 what do you have to say for yourself after sucking the Braves' dick all year long and then watching them

Speaker 1 seemingly they're on the ropes. They're on the ropes.

Speaker 15 They're on the ropes, but I mean, you know, I'm a notorious flip-flopper. Yep.
Like, I wanted to pick the Phillies Phillies in this series, but we were going to Atlanta for a watch party.

Speaker 15 And I was like, I can't pick the Phillies and go to Atlanta. Like, you just can't do that.
So I picked the Braves in five, but

Speaker 15 if we weren't going to Atlanta, I definitely would have picked the Phillies. Just Pander.

Speaker 1 That's another flip-flop. Pandora just flip-flops.

Speaker 1 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 I mean, you can't like, we all openly admitted that. Like, everyone on the podcast picked the Braves because we were going.
Like, if, if we were just going to stay put,

Speaker 15 I think the vibes would tell you, and Max can attest to this, that it just, this series had Phillies written all over it.

Speaker 15 I think, you know, the whole like Arcea thing, it's, by the way, stupidest storyline.

Speaker 1 Explain it for the people who maybe are not following the MLB playoffs. I know, I know what you're talking about, but yes.

Speaker 15 If you're not following the MLB playoffs, the Braves are playing the Phillies right now. The Braves have statistically the best lineup, maybe, of all time.

Speaker 15 Like, if you were to put it in perspective, they they hit, they tied the 2019 Twins for the most home runs ever.

Speaker 1 Who could forget the 2019 Twins?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 And the 1927 Yankees, they're tied in like OPS Plus. So, like, statistically, one of the best lineups ever.

Speaker 15 Bryce Harper gets doubled off in game two

Speaker 15 to end the game.

Speaker 15 And then Orlando Arcia, who is the Braves shortstop, was kind of like making fun of Bryce Harper after the game.

Speaker 15 And there was like this whole big thing about this reporter who didn't even have a credential, had like tweeted it out or reported what Arcea was saying in the clubhouse.

Speaker 15 And then the Braves were crying about it, saying, you know, this, this ruins like the sanctity of the clubhouse. And, you know, there are things in the clubhouse that aren't supposed to get out.

Speaker 15 Like, he didn't even say anything bad.

Speaker 1 What'd he say?

Speaker 1 Max, what did it say? Add a boy Bryce or something? Yeah, he said Ada Boy Bryce. That's it.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Yeah, Adaboy Harper.

Speaker 1 T-shirts in the Barcelona store. Okay, Okay, and also,

Speaker 1 so then the idea is that the Braves, it does feel like the Braves are complaining a lot.

Speaker 1 And I would argue, and maybe the Braves don't agree with me, that Bryce Harper hit two home runs in game three, not because Orlando Arceus said Ada Boy Bryce.

Speaker 1 It was more because Bryce Harper's really fucking good at hitting home runs.

Speaker 15 I would say that you have a strong case there, Dan. Yeah, I would say Bryce Harper pretty good.
I mean, he homered in Atlanta.

Speaker 15 Like, the dude just, I'm so jealous of Philly fans because you got a player that is A, a superstar, potential Hall of Famer someday. And he's such a dirtbag like Philly's fans.
Like he is one of them.

Speaker 15 And when he signed his deal, he was like, 13 years, I don't want any opt-outs. I want to die here.
Bury me in Philly. He embodies everything that that fan base is all about.
He wants to win.

Speaker 15 He'll do anything to win. And he does shit like that.
Like, oh, you want to talk shit?

Speaker 4 Now I'm going to hit two bombs i'm going to stare you down as i'm rounding second base like that he embodies philly i'm so jealous of those people yeah would you say that your your bulletin board material by picking the braves in five was actually a gift from you to the phillies and they're like attaboy jared thank you for doing that for us they need it they they like play better it seems like when everybody hates them Yeah, no,

Speaker 15 if there's one thing that I learned about Phillies fans in my years in the Barcelona they love being hated. Like they embrace it.
It's not something that rattles them. They welcome it.

Speaker 15 They live off of it. It fuels them.

Speaker 15 I was actually at all three NLCS games in Philly last year, and

Speaker 15 I haven't been to every ballpark, obviously, in the playoffs, but that atmosphere, it's, I don't know that I can compare anything else to it other than like SEC football.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. We just steal a take from Jeff Passon.
Okay. Passin' said that? Yeah, on SVP.
That was the whole thing. Was it Jeff Passon? Yeah, that was a big argument for me of why

Speaker 1 CVP is the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 But they might run into going up against themselves a little bit.

Speaker 4 If they advance through this series and then they get the Diamondbacks, the Diamondbacks are the team that nobody believes in.

Speaker 4 Sure, they haven't lost this postseason, but nobody thinks that the Diamondbacks are going to do anything. The Phillies aren't going to be able to play the underdog card against them.

Speaker 15 That's a good point. I didn't think about it like that.

Speaker 15 They would be a favorite in that series. I don't even think

Speaker 15 the Dodgers didn't even have a lead in that series against the D-backs. So, I mean, they've been playing really good baseball.

Speaker 15 I don't know that that would continue against the Phillies if that ends up being the matchup, but it's hard to kind of say anything bad about the D-backs right now.

Speaker 1 So, last thing with the Phillies Braves, because again, there is still the series isn't over. If the Braves do come back and win this, what happened?

Speaker 15 Ooh.

Speaker 1 Strider lights out game four.

Speaker 15 I think if the Braves come back and win the series, it'll be because of how they got there. They just bludgeoned every team to death.

Speaker 15 Their offense hasn't done dick. Like, obviously, they had in game two, that big comeback, the Austin Riley two-run home run in the eighth inning, but they haven't, they haven't flexed their muscle.

Speaker 15 Like, even in that game, they needed to come back in like the seventh inning. Like, there hasn't been a game where they just put their nuts on the table yet.

Speaker 15 If they're going to come back, they're going to have to do that. Like, last night, like perfect example, like the Phillies hit six home runs.
That's a ties a postseason record.

Speaker 15 It was a franchise record for most home runs in a single postseason game. They're going to have to do something like that where they're just kind of establishing their dominance.

Speaker 15 And they haven't done that. Like when I was there for game one,

Speaker 15 Strider, first pitch, Schwarber, your boy, hit an absolute nuke off the wall. The entire ballpark just went silent.

Speaker 15 It's like the Braves just got rocked in the the jaw the first second of the game and they didn't really recover.

Speaker 15 I mean, obviously you had like the comeback in game two, which was phenomenal, but I'm talking about game one. Like they were just absolutely stunned.
Like they've got to come out firing.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. I do want to talk more about the Diamondbacks.

Speaker 1 I have a question though about the Astros who are now in their seventh straight ALCS.

Speaker 15 Seventh straight.

Speaker 1 Have the Astros won enough that it doesn't matter that they cheated anymore? Because it feels like we'll get to a point where, yes, they cheated. We all know they cheated.

Speaker 1 But now they're on seven straight ALCSs. They won a World Series after they cheated.
Their dominance in their, like, they're just such nails when they get to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Have we reached that point yet where it's like, hey, we know what happened in the past, but they're just so fucking good, you can't take anything away from this team.

Speaker 15 Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
I mean, so I said that. You almost have to respect it, but I get the people that are coming back saying, oh, they cheated.
So like, I don't have to respect them. I get that too.

Speaker 15 But I think baseball has created such parody in their sport and the randomness of the postseason, like the D-Backs being in the NLCS with, what, 84 wins and a negative run differential that that makes it all the more impressive that the Astros have gotten to seven straight American League Championship Series.

Speaker 15 But, you know, I think when you go back and look at it, the Astros got caught for 2017, but I think you can still kind of like squint your eyes and look at 18 and 19, be like, okay, like those years were kind of sketched too.

Speaker 15 They were only punished for one year. So it is seven straight.
Me personally, I give them, I give them credit for it. Like it is what it is.

Speaker 15 I think that they didn't, what they've proven to me and should be to a lot of people is that they never had to cheat in the first place. Correct.

Speaker 15 Whether or not they would have won in 2017, that remains to be seen. Maybe the Dodgers have a strong case for, oh, they stole a World World Series from us.

Speaker 15 But as far as getting there seven straight, I don't think that they needed to cheat to do that. They were talented all along to be able to do that.

Speaker 4 And Dusty Baker is so likable as a guy.

Speaker 4 He's a great shield for that organization, too, where it's like, you can root against the Astros, but then when you see Dusty doing his thing, you're like, I like that guy.

Speaker 4 I want that guy to win, right?

Speaker 15 It's impossible to not like Dusty Baker. Like

Speaker 15 when he won the World Series,

Speaker 15 that was a moment that it just, it would have felt almost like, you know, like Dan Marino never winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 15 It's like, how do you get Dusty Baker in a dugout for that long being such a legend?

Speaker 15 And to like, even to have a guy like Barry Bonds and Jeff Kent like on his team and to not actually win a World Series with those guys.

Speaker 15 So even to all the Astros haters out there, I think when Houston won their non-cheating World Series, a lot of folks are probably sitting there being like, you know what?

Speaker 15 Fuck the Astros, but I'm happy for Dusty Baker.

Speaker 4 And Dusty Baker, he invented the high five.

Speaker 1 People forget that. People forget that.

Speaker 4 He invented the high five. It's hard not to celebrate the guy that invented the high five.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 100%.

Speaker 2 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Astros in the ALCS going up against the Rangers. I will be fully honest.
I don't know anything about the Rangers other than the fact that they feel like their offense is incredible.

Speaker 1 And then they have Scherzer at two, but Evaldi, your former guy who just shoves.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 why are the Rangers this good? Why are they playing this great baseball right now? Because they haven't lost as well.

Speaker 15 So the thing you need to know about the Texas Rangers is their bullpen is absolute trash.

Speaker 15 They haven't had to run into any of those issues yet in the postseason because they've just been bludgeoning teams to death with their offense.

Speaker 15 You mentioned Scherzer. He hasn't pitched yet in the postseason.
He's been hurt, but he feels good.

Speaker 15 And we could see him in the ALCS. There's a chance for that.
He felt good the last time that he threw, but their offense is just, I mean, this is what they've been doing all year.

Speaker 15 Like when you look at the matchup between the first seed Orioles and then you have the Texas Rangers who didn't win their own division,

Speaker 15 the Rangers had a better run differential than Baltimore. So people are calling that an upset.
I don't think it was, but they made one of the best moves at the deadline.

Speaker 15 They traded for Jordan Montgomery, who was on the Yankees, and then he was on the Cardinals. That was the Harrison Bader deal.
But Montgomery was great in his first start.

Speaker 15 Not so great in his second start, but it didn't matter because that I think the Rangers scored like 11 runs in that game.

Speaker 15 But their Achilles heel all year has been their bullpen. Like there was a point where

Speaker 15 they had blown X amount of game, like

Speaker 15 whatever it was, like 20 games or something like that. Their bullpen cost them the division hands down.

Speaker 15 So if the Rangers don't end up in the World Series, it's going to be because the games are tight against Houston. Houston has that playoff experience.
They've been there. They've done that.

Speaker 15 They can hang with you in that series. So, yeah, that's going to be what costs them if they don't get there.

Speaker 4 The thing I've noticed about Schrozer, too, is sometimes he is his own bullpen. So he'll start out and he'll get rocked in the first inning, in the second inning, and he looks like dog shit.

Speaker 4 And if you leave him in, he'll like come in for relief for himself, settle down, and then go lights out innings like three through eight.

Speaker 4 If you let him, it's about just like trusting that he'll get there eventually. Have you noticed that about Schrozer? Is he like a guy that gets stronger as the game goes on?

Speaker 15 Yeah, I mean, like, Verlander is the same way. Like, those dudes, like,

Speaker 15 that was Verlander's M.O. when he was younger would be he would start out throwing like 94, 95, and then he would pitch into the eighth inning and be throwing 98, 99 miles an hour.

Speaker 15 Scherzer, I think whatever you get out of him right now is a bonus. I think if you're a Rangers fan.

Speaker 15 And you're looking at this series, you're thinking, all right, if we get Mac Scherzer at all, I'll be happy with four innings. You know, like you slide him down the rotation.

Speaker 15 Maybe he only has to go in a game four situation and then available out of the bullpen in a game seven, something like that. Like he's not going to be the frontline bulldog that you're talking about.

Speaker 15 That role has been taken on by Nathan Avaldi. Like Nathan Avaldi, this dude has balls the size of basketballs.

Speaker 15 And we saw what he did with the Red Sox in the postseason, 2018, did the same thing in the wild card game in 21 against the Yankees. He's been there, done that in October.
He got hurt over the summer.

Speaker 15 And when the Rangers were kind of sliding, like they were a first-place team, and then the Mariners came out of nowhere. Houston was lingering the whole time.
He just said, fuck it.

Speaker 15 Like, I'm not, I don't need a rehab starts. And he just went from being on the sidelines for a month and change to put me back out there.
We have games to win.

Speaker 15 And that's why, you know, going into the playoffs, a lot of people were thinking, well, what are we going to get out of Nathan Valde?

Speaker 15 When it turns to the playoffs, he just flips a switch and he's been nails.

Speaker 1 He's a hoss. He's a hoss.
He is.

Speaker 15 Yeah, that's what Dave's been talking about.

Speaker 15 Yeah, dudes from Texas that just can squat 600 pounds and go out there and shove. And that's Nathan Avaldi.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and just throw it right down your throat. All right, the Diamondbacks.
They are the hottest team right now. It feels like they just completely emasculated the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 I actually, before we talk about the Diamondbacks, what the hell do the Dodgers do?

Speaker 1 Because it feels like every year, outside of getting the entire playoff system changed, which it feels like they are trying to get,

Speaker 1 where there is no, you know, you could make the argument that the teams that don't play that first week are at a disadvantage, even though it's a small sample size because we've only had these new playoffs for a few years.

Speaker 1 But what do the Dodgers do? Like, every year is the same story. They have an incredible team.
They, they, they win the West, and then they get to the playoffs, and they're disappointing.

Speaker 2 Mookie Betts, I don't think even had a hit.

Speaker 15 No, he didn't. I think Freddy Freeman and Mookie were like one for 21, and it was an infield single.

Speaker 15 I think when you look at the Dodgers, it just kind of just puts it out there that the regular season is a different game than the playoffs.

Speaker 15 When you look at the Dodgers, they won, what, 100 games? They won the division. It's the same thing because now people are making excuses of, well, they didn't have Dustin May.

Speaker 15 They didn't have Walker Bueller. And Tony Gonsalin got hurt.
And Julio Arias had the domestic violence thing. Like, he can go himself, like, he's not going to probably pitch in the big leagues again.

Speaker 15 Like, that's his second strike there. Uh, so, like, all the like that's that, like, any other team, you take four-fifths of their rotation away, and they're

Speaker 15 the Dodgers still won 100 games in their division. So, I don't know.
Like, it was next man up for them, and it was enough for them to have this six.

Speaker 15 If you take out 2020,

Speaker 15 the 60-game season that they won the World Series, and you go back to 2019, and then you have 2021 and 22, and then this year, they're averaging over 100 wins during the regular season, a year.

Speaker 15 And then they get to the playoffs and they get bumped in the division series.

Speaker 15 I think they made it to the NLCS in one of those years that I just mentioned, but it's just a different game in the playoffs.

Speaker 15 But this specific Dodger team right now, Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, maybe one of the best one-two punches atop of a lineup ever, and they went missing.

Speaker 15 And then you kind of look down the rest of the lineup, you're like, where's like, if you can contain those two guys, where's the threat? Like, Will Smith is not going to carry you to a World Series.

Speaker 15 So I don't know from like a roster construction perspective.

Speaker 15 It's very confusing that they were good enough to win 100 games in a regular season, and then they show up in a playoff series against a team like the D-Backs that had a negative run differential didn't even win 90 games and they just get knocked around to the point where they did not have a lead they didn't have a lead in this series and the dude brandon fought that went out there and started that he had like a 10 era like he's he's

Speaker 15 no disrespect to him he's going to be he's a good young pitcher he's going to get better he's very young but he did not have a good year this year and he just went out there and shoved it up the dodgers ass like i don't know what as an organization what they're supposed to do to change the culture there because it's not an issue of, oh, we don't have enough talent.

Speaker 15 Like, yes, you can talk about the injuries and the rotation. All of that is valid, but it didn't stop you from winning 100 fucking games in the regular season.

Speaker 1 They need to poach Dan Heron. Dan Heron is doing the greatest job, coaching job of all time with these diamond packs.

Speaker 15 Yeah, Dan Heron is he's working miracles over there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he is.

Speaker 4 So when you're talking about like roster construction and making a team for the postseason as opposed to the regular season, I don't know that that's an excuse for the Dodgers because you should be able to score runs in the playoffs if you have a team that wins over 100 games.

Speaker 4 I don't think that's like a macro versus micro, but if you're talking about that, because I have heard people say it famously, I think A-Rod brought that up on the broadcast a couple years ago when he just talked about macro versus micro for two innings, but he never really got into what it actually means.

Speaker 4 So if you're making a team, if you're designing a team in the lab to succeed in the playoffs and not the regular season, what are the changes you're making?

Speaker 4 What's the actual difference in product that you'd want to put on the field for playoff success versus regular season success?

Speaker 15 Yeah, I think at this point, if you're the Dodgers,

Speaker 15 you've gotten embarrassed enough to where their next move is going to be Shohei Otani.

Speaker 15 Like, I don't know that he choose, because now Shohei is in a position where it's like, all right, everyone's got money now.

Speaker 15 All of you are billionaire owners. I'm going to pick my team.
I think if he doesn't end up with the Dodgers, it's not because they didn't have the highest bid or they they weren't aggressive enough.

Speaker 15 It's because he chose a different organization. Like he, he's choosing his forever home right now.
I think his next contract is going to have no opt-outs in it.

Speaker 15 Like we talked to Passon on the podcast a few weeks ago, and I thought because of his injury that he was going to have an opt-out after year two, where it's like, yeah, I'll DH for a year.

Speaker 15 Then that second year is when I'm going to pitch and reestablish my value, then opt out, then go somewhere. Passing was like, wherever he goes, like he's going to have no opt-outs.

Speaker 15 That's going to be his forever home. So the Dodgers are definitely going to be one of those teams.

Speaker 15 They strategically got under the luxury tax that they could blow past it in the case of signing a show, hey. But that's what you have to do.

Speaker 15 I mean, it's not always the recipe for success is to just throw half a billion dollars at the problem. Like, we looked at what the Mets did this year.

Speaker 15 They spent a fuck ton of money and it didn't get them anywhere. They had an embarrassing season.
The Padres had a World Series parade in January and they spent a ton of money. That didn't work out.

Speaker 15 But then you look at the Texas Rangers. How crazy is it that the Texas Rangers spent

Speaker 15 half a billion dollars on their middle infield with Semeon and Corey Seeger? Corey Seeger probably had the best season in the American League outside of Shohei.

Speaker 15 But their big free agent acquisition was Jacob DeGrom, and he's not factoring into any of this. And they're in the ALCS.
So sometimes spending a ton of money helps.

Speaker 15 And I think that that's kind of where the Dodgers are going to have to go is fans just by scrolling through Twitter and all the replies and reaction to this series, they're kind of like rip shit at Mookie.

Speaker 15 It's like Mookie Betts is an MVP perennial candidate, and they're pissed at him for not doing anything in the playoffs. And then after the game, being like, ah, you know, like

Speaker 15 the D-Backs are a good team, too.

Speaker 15 They're not nearly as good as you.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 So, talking about the D-Backs, like, obviously, Zach Gallin is a top of the rotation number one, but how are they doing this when, like, Tommy Fan, I think, is batting third for them?

Speaker 1 I did love turning on the game last night. And, like, we've been in New York all week with surviving Barcelona, so I haven't been paying a ton of attention.

Speaker 1 But seeing the Dodgers have to throw out Lance Lynn, that fat face of his, Costas even said it. He's like, he's, he's very large.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, this is a problem because Lance Lynn, like, he's, he's just going to give up dingers at some point.

Speaker 1 He even did like a, he did like a celebration after the third and then gave up four home runs in the fourth. But how are the, how are the diamonds like, could the diamondbacks win the World Series?

Speaker 15 So

Speaker 15 here's here's the formula for playoff success

Speaker 15 good pitching good defense hit homers and the d-backs are hitting homers they hit four off of Lance Lynn in the same inning that's the first time we've ever seen it so it's not about like like with the dodgers like that you know we have a little bit of length here in the middle of the order like we got guys that can hit doubles and they can get on base and they can walk a lot that's great but if you're not hitting homers you're not winning in the playoffs in the in the in the series with the d backs and uh the brewers when we asked asked Passon, you know, who's your dark horse for the playoffs, he was blowing the Brewers all day because the defense was great, one of the best in baseball, and the pitching was great.

Speaker 15 It's like, all right, well, what about the offense? Like, do they have guys that can hit homers? No, they didn't win a fucking game. And like, that's, that's basically what you have to do.

Speaker 15 It's, it's not about, uh, you know, we're going to grind out at bats here and we're going to wear down the pitcher and his pitch count and all that. It's, can you hit homers

Speaker 15 at a rate that you can out homer the other team? Like the playoffs is all about hitting home runs. We just saw it last night with the Phillies.
We saw it last night with the D-Backs.

Speaker 15 The teams that are hitting more home runs, those are the teams that are winning.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I actually go to Magic Johnson for all my baseball analysis, and I thought he hit the nail on the head. He said the Dodgers didn't hit or pitch well.

Speaker 4 That's why we lost the series to the Diamondbacks.

Speaker 4 Tough to argue with. Facts.

Speaker 15 It's really, yeah, it's hard to dispute anything that he said there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so there was also another take I wanted to hear your feedback on.

Speaker 4 Speaking of the Diamondbacks, there was a Wisconsin podcast host, Bart Winkler. He said the Diamondbacks aren't good.

Speaker 4 Beating the Brewers in a three-game series and then beating the Dodgers in a five-game series doesn't prove that wrong, but they are now in the NLCS. This league is so stupid.

Speaker 4 Every baseball fan should be outraged by this bullshit. Are you? You are a baseball fan, Jared.
You're a seam head.

Speaker 1 Are you outraged by this bullshit?

Speaker 15 I'm not outraged by this bullshit, honestly.

Speaker 15 I think it gives hope to other teams out there that it just reinforces all you have to do is get in to have a chance,

Speaker 15 which is kind of why I want to kind of like mix up the playoff format again. I want to go back to the one game playoff for the wild card, and then I want to make the division series best of seven.

Speaker 15 I think that if you're an owner and you're like, well, that's, you know, like, if you want to make the wild card one game again, it's like, well, that's fewer games.

Speaker 15 We're not going to make as much money. Then you make the division series best of seven.
I think it rewards

Speaker 15 teams with more depth by having the like. I still think honestly, the D-Backs still would have beat the Dodgers, but

Speaker 15 something specific to the Braves Philly series. Like, this deserves to be seven games.
Like, I feel like it has a chance to go seven, you know, these two teams, and we'll never know now. Um,

Speaker 15 but yeah, that the D-backs doing what they've been doing is only going to encourage those.

Speaker 15 I don't want to say say bottom of the barrel, but maybe the less financially supported teams, like, hey, you know, one move here, one move there. We can, maybe we can't win 100 games.

Speaker 15 Like the Orioles just pulled 100 wins out of their ass. Maybe we can't win 100 games, but maybe we win 86 games.
We get in and then we see what happens.

Speaker 15 I think it

Speaker 15 only

Speaker 15 encourages a more

Speaker 15 competitive balance where teams actually care. Like the Oakland A's just throwing out the worst team in in baseball history and the Kansas City Royals doing what they're doing.

Speaker 15 I think it should give hope to those teams where, like, hey, if we put in like a little ounce of effort, we could sneak in and maybe fluke a World Series or something like that.

Speaker 1 I agree with that.

Speaker 4 I think it keeps interest higher across the board, across more fan bases.

Speaker 4 But then, on the other hand, if you have it that way, then if your team is like really, really shitty on purpose, like the A's, it makes you that much more frustrated where it's like, hey, you don't even have to spend a lot of money.

Speaker 4 You just have to like make sure that you spend less money than the last place guy. And we have a chance.

Speaker 4 And unless you're just dirt poor and being cheap as hell, every team should have at least some hope at the start of the year.

Speaker 1 You know what they should do? They should have every team for at least the first round of the playoffs, maybe even the first and second round of the playoffs, they should have every team be in.

Speaker 1 And it should go off run differential. That would be sick.
So, like, the Orioles and the

Speaker 1 A's play a one-game playoff game, but the score starts 129 to minus 330 how sick would that be

Speaker 4 they might get like do you think that they should get rid of divisions at this point like wouldn't that make more sense no i like the idea of divisions but it might it might just be because we grew up with divisions and so it's familiar to us but i i like the idea of like in-division rivalries

Speaker 15 we're traditionalists we think they should make uh they should make interleague play like a two-week thing like it used to be yeah yeah i don't know i like the it's basically the shohei rule right like they they want to be like hey we have this global superstar we want everyone to come out and see him uh and attendance was uh i think it was the best that it's ever been in like 30 years that's because the bases are bigger i think the bases are bigger they're like you know what people want to come out and see these pizza boxes yeah and they're coming out in droves to see them the the uh dumb question How big are you legally allowed to make the mitt when you get to first base and can it to like steal second base?

Speaker 1 Like, could I make a mitt that's 90 feet long?

Speaker 15 I mean, I guess you could. I think when Buck Schowalter, before he took the Mets job, I think he was doing MLB Network or something like that.

Speaker 15 And he was saying, Why, even if you don't care to protect your fingers, why isn't everyone wearing those? Because it just gives you an extra inch or two to be safe.

Speaker 15 That could be the difference of being safe or out. Like, every base runner should be wearing that fucking thing.

Speaker 2 It'd be funny if it was like you get to first base and it's like fly fishing.

Speaker 1 See if you can just get your mitt all the way to second.

Speaker 4 That's my hands, my hands in there.

Speaker 4 Or just put those giant number one foam fingers on you and then slide his second with that.

Speaker 15 Like, baseball is the sport where thinking outside the box and cheating and doing random things to succeed.

Speaker 15 You would think that there would be a nerd somewhere in every organization be like, hey, I don't care if you care about protecting your fingers or not.

Speaker 15 Like, you should be wearing the oven mitt because it gives you an extra two inches. Yeah.
The bases are bigger. So now it's like four and a half inches that you didn't have before.

Speaker 15 Four and a half inches is pretty big, right, Max?

Speaker 1 Hell yeah, baby. That's right.

Speaker 4 We've been saying that there should, that a smart coach would just not have a catcher on the first and second pitch of an at-bat.

Speaker 4 And so you get an extra fielder out there, and then you just beat the pitch is coming straight at the umpire. You don't need to catch that shit.

Speaker 15 Yeah. No, I think the new rules have been great.
I think,

Speaker 15 so, Dan, you'll appreciate this as a wrestling guy. Why aren't fans, because I saw in Minnesota.

Speaker 15 The Twins, because I think it was talking about like they were actually doing the pitch count, like countdown, but they were doing it real.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 15 To fuck with the pitchers, wouldn't you do the countdown like the Royal Rumble, but not the actual thing to fuck with them?

Speaker 1 It's like college basketball. College basketball, all the time, the shot clock, they'll do a fake shot clock when you're in one of the big, you know, road environments and they'll always

Speaker 1 speed up a guard at least once or twice a game.

Speaker 15 Yes. Like you need to start like five, four, three, two, one at like eight seconds.
Yes. Like max.
So you need to get the like Philly's fans are the perfect fan base to do that.

Speaker 15 They're a bunch of scumbags. It's a term of endearment.
They're loud. It's something that they would do.
So if we're going to see it, I think

Speaker 15 we should see it at the bank. But I am shocked that in this first year of the pitch clock that we haven't seen fan bases fuck with the pitchers.

Speaker 1 It's true. It's true.

Speaker 2 You're talking about show here earlier.

Speaker 4 Where would the funniest place for Otani to end up next year be?

Speaker 15 Japan.

Speaker 15 He was just like.

Speaker 1 The Dallas Cowboys. Yeah.

Speaker 15 He was just like, you know what? Fuck this dude. Like, I want to go home.
And he just left.

Speaker 1 But as far as like what team hmm that'd be great because we could just be like he he could never cut it in mlb yeah afraid of bright lights or would people just start watching japanese baseball more than mlb

Speaker 15 yeah yeah i don't know i feel like probably the mets like whatever team would have the chance of breaking him the most it would probably be the mets uh i don't i mean the pirates i honestly i don't know where he's gonna end up i don't know i don't like the fact that there are rumors that the red socks are all hot and bothered over shohei because i don't want to be the team that like ruins him.

Speaker 15 I don't want to be the team that breaks him. I don't want to have to be the organization that when he's 36 years old being like, hey, man, I think you should probably pick one or the other.

Speaker 15 I don't want to be that team.

Speaker 1 When he got hurt, were you like Ben Verlander? Did you literally throw up?

Speaker 15 No, I didn't literally throw. I wasn't Cream and Scry throwing up like Ben, but he

Speaker 1 literally threw away. He literally threw up.
Is he okay now? Yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah, he fell to his knees in the middle of a Walmart over that. And, you know, my heart goes out to Ben.
But, yeah, no, that's, I, I don't know where he's going to end up.

Speaker 15 Would you want him on the Cubs?

Speaker 1 I'd want him on the Cubs. Why not? He's fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 Really, the Cubs want to put the money up for him, but I would love for him on the Cubs. Why not? He solves everything.

Speaker 15 I think

Speaker 15 if you're a major league owner right now, you have to look at it not as because I think owners now are

Speaker 15 afraid to go out and spend $400 million because it's like, well, what if this player? Like, look at Anthony Rendone. He is.
one of the highest paid players in baseball.

Speaker 15 He still has a fuck ton of money left on his contract. And he admittedly is like, I wish I could retire.
So like his heart's not in it.

Speaker 15 His body is failing and he's owed like $36 million over the next five years or something like that. So I get why owners balk at paying guys like that type of money in their 30s.

Speaker 15 But with Shohei, it's almost like a marketing expense.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 15 I'm not paying him for what he's going to do baseball wise. If I pay Shohei Otani to play for my team, I know that he's a baseball robot.
Like all he thinks about is baseball. He trains for baseball.

Speaker 15 He has his, like, every life revolves entirely around baseball. I'm going to sell tickets.
My viewership is going to go up. I'm going to sell merch.
Like, you're, it's, it's an attraction.

Speaker 15 So that's why I kind of expect these random ass teams to be in on Shohei, knowing that, hey, it doesn't matter if this guy performs to the contract. It's just going to be.

Speaker 1 uh like we're if if if my team is a circus this is our star attraction and also you you can't do the like one guy had a bad contract because you know how owners think.

Speaker 1 Like, Bryce Harper is a perfect example of, hey, think that was worth it? Yeah, it was very much worth it.

Speaker 4 You know, it'd be awesome, though, if Shohei went to Colorado. It was just hitting him and Chris Bryan just

Speaker 1 hitting nukes every day. That'd be the best, wouldn't it?

Speaker 15 I mean, yeah, wherever he goes, I'll support him. I'll watch.
I just.

Speaker 1 Wait, if he goes to the Yankees?

Speaker 15 You know what, Dan?

Speaker 15 Dan is the reason why I went in on the Yankees as hard hard as i did like he brought the beast out of me like it was dormant for so long like i hated the yankees in 2003 1999 2004 like when johnny damon went there in 2006 but that beast lay dormant for so long and then in 2018

Speaker 15 i was just like you know the yankees are another team to me and i meant that i was like i i i was like you know you beat them you you were better than them No, it was more just like, my rival is the team that stands in front of me in the way to a World Series title.

Speaker 15 And Dan was like, nope, it's the Yankees. You should hate the Yankees.
And it just, you know,

Speaker 15 I just got a little whiff of those old days and it hasn't stopped.

Speaker 1 It was, it was the, it's the Yankee fans in the Barstall office getting them riled up.

Speaker 1 I mean, I had a lot of fun,

Speaker 1 you know, pinstripe Dan and all that stuff. But yeah, you, you, you like, that's what it's about.
You got to go against your rival.

Speaker 1 What's your World Series prediction?

Speaker 15 Ooh.

Speaker 1 This should be easy because you only have five teams left.

Speaker 15 I know. Well, my preseason pick was Padres Blue Jays.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 4 So when you say the January World Series parade, you're talking about yourself. Yeah.
You gave them a parade.

Speaker 1 Padres Blue Jays. Woof.

Speaker 4 Is it safe to say that the Nationals won that trade for Soto?

Speaker 15 Yeah, I mean, like the Nationals, they've got, what, like already like three dudes on their big league roster from that trade already?

Speaker 4 Fleeced.

Speaker 15 Soto could end up in Boston.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't mind seeing that.

Speaker 15 That's the scuttle butt.

Speaker 4 He would just go yard all day in that short press right field.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 I just don't want him to go to New York. By the way, one last note on Shohei before my World Series prediction that I'm buying time on.

Speaker 15 I don't like when we talk about the Japanese superstars and they're like, oh, they definitely want to be on the West Coast. Why? Oh, because it's closer to Japan.

Speaker 15 Like these guys, like, it's not like college. where you're picking a college and you go home on the weekend.
Like Shohei is not going back to Japan on the weekends.

Speaker 15 Why does it matter geographically if he's close to Japan or not?

Speaker 4 Disagree. I I disagree.

Speaker 1 I actually think

Speaker 4 there are more Japanese Americans that live on the West Coast than any other.

Speaker 1 Also, you're just like,

Speaker 1 you're trying to fight against one of our favorite things on this show is like sport clichés where like a guy coming into the NFL draft, oh, well, did you know that he actually

Speaker 1 had the coach of the coach of the Broncos was at a camp that he went to when he was 15 years old. There's a connection there.
You got to just go connections wherever you can. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would make any sense.

Speaker 15 I get it. But selfishly, I just want Shohei on the East Coast because it's a pain in the balls to have to stay up late to watch Shohei.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. Yeah.
You should become a flat earther. What does that have to do with time zone? It might just be easier to get there.

Speaker 4 I actually think it would make it farther away.

Speaker 6 It would?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because it's up north, so it's like you cut a diagonal.

Speaker 1 Well, you could just figure out, maybe become like, yeah, like a triangle earther. Just figure out a way to

Speaker 1 make it so like, you know, you're straight to Europe. You know what it is?

Speaker 4 It's like we expect Shohei Otani to go to like the Giants or probably Seattle because it's like, well, Ichiro played in Seattle. Yeah.
That's basically Japan.

Speaker 1 But yeah, you can't fight against that. Just lean into just being dumb sports fans.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 You're right.

Speaker 1 You're right. World Series prediction.

Speaker 15 Phillies are over the Rangers, which it sucks because I just got. this fucking Texas flag button-up.
What's the thing called?

Speaker 4 Oh, the bolo tie?

Speaker 15 Yes, yes, yes, yes yes i got one of those and i got like a texas button up and then uh kev millar bought me this cowboy hat so that looks like a stripper cowboy hat bring it back out

Speaker 15 that's not a real cowboy that's like leather and shiny yeah well it's yeah it's leather yeah it's like magic mic well we bought it we bought it at a leather shop so i've got like the boots i've got the whole thing going so it's gonna suck If I have to pick against them in the World Series, but it just feels like the Phillies won't be denied.

Speaker 15 They feel more inevitable this year.

Speaker 2 This is

Speaker 1 that we're doing

Speaker 1 a lot of game four. Agreed, agreed.

Speaker 1 Also, Jared, because you got a bunch of Texas shit.

Speaker 4 You know that the Rangers are playing against the Houston Astros.

Speaker 1 Also, I do know that. Also, a Texas.
I do know that.

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Speaker 1 So the Red Sox don't have a GM right now, correct?

Speaker 15 Kind of, sorta.

Speaker 15 There's folks acting behind the scenes. Okay.

Speaker 1 Is it a 0% chance that Jared Karavis is the next GM of the Red Sox?

Speaker 15 Listen, we've had conversations, none of which I can speak about publicly, but

Speaker 1 there's people.

Speaker 15 Well, I mean, well, I know commented. I know commented there, but yeah, I'm going to play out my 30s as a podcaster.

Speaker 15 And then once I get to my 40s, that's when we bring in the big guns, like PD, Alex Core goes upstairs, then we just start bringing in all the big guns.

Speaker 1 But is there, like, I'm being dead honest, like, there's got to be at least like a half a percent of your brain being like, what if?

Speaker 1 What if they just call me up and they're like, look, you know the Red Sox better than anyone. We want you as the GM.

Speaker 15 I mean, did you know?

Speaker 15 Like 10, a little over 10 years ago, I almost worked in the Orioles' front office. Really?

Speaker 1 So you could, but like, so you have, basically, you've worked in a front office.

Speaker 15 Yeah, you could say that I'm basically like an executive. Like, I could be a candidate at this point.
You also. I don't know that I would want to do that, though.

Speaker 1 Oh, shut up. No, you fucking lied.

Speaker 4 Because then you couldn't do a podcast criticizing yourself.

Speaker 1 No, but he doesn't criticize the Red Sox. Yeah.
He doesn't criticize anyone.

Speaker 15 Oh, my God. Yes, I do.
I mean, when they're in last place, you think I'm happy? I'm miserable.

Speaker 1 Would you, if you're absolutely miserable. If you were the GM of the Red Sox, would you still do the obnoxious all caps tweets after a win?

Speaker 15 See, that's what I...

Speaker 1 I don't want to do that. That would have to be in your contract.

Speaker 1 That'd have to be in your contract being like, please let me keep doing these.

Speaker 15 But I don't even want to do those anymore. So I started doing those in 2014 after the Red Sox lost 10 straight games and they finally won a game.
That's when I did the first one.

Speaker 15 And I've just been doing it for every win ever since. Like, I don't think people understand.
I annoy myself. Like, I read some of the shit that I tweet.

Speaker 15 I'm like, that's why I stopped doing the Yankees lose tweet. Just like that.

Speaker 1 Those are funny, though. But I'm annoyed by

Speaker 15 if I'm a Red Sox fan, how am I supposed to talk shit when back-to-back last play season?

Speaker 4 Yeah, but no, you got to hang on to that. Like, hold on to whatever bit of hate that you have.
because when the Yankees lose, that's that's now your biggest victories, true.

Speaker 15 And when I was in Atlanta, I thought for sure that like Braves fans that came out to the watch party were gonna be like, Yeah, you know, like we, we, you know, discovered you when you started talking about the late the braves lineup.

Speaker 15 Fucking no, so many people like, oh, I discovered you because the Yankees lose tweets like in 2019, like I discovered you from like hating the Yankees so much.

Speaker 15 And I was like, Okay, all right, so I guess I have to go back to that.

Speaker 4 How do you come up with the nicknames for the Red Sox when you do the all-caps tweets? Is it just like overnight you wake up and you're like, Yeah, Raffy Big Sticks or whatever?

Speaker 15 Yeah, it's usually a lot of like dick references in the uh nicknames, they just they come to me.

Speaker 15 It's you know, how uh, Paul McCartney wrote uh, yesterday in a dream, yeah, that's that's how I come up with the nicknames a lot of times.

Speaker 1 So, while you're masturbating, do you what was this? Wasn't there one guy who was uh sleeping bags or something, duffel bags,

Speaker 15 Mitchie two bags

Speaker 1 and and scoops who's scoops,

Speaker 1 that's what it is, yeah, yeah, because he uh he ate ice cream.

Speaker 1 Well, no, no, no, no, not once.

Speaker 15 That was how they rewarded him. If he did something good, then

Speaker 15 he would get ice cream.

Speaker 4 So you got to think ahead:

Speaker 4 what is Otani's going to be when he's a Red Sock?

Speaker 15 Ooh. So we also didn't do nicknames for star players.
We gave nicknames to players that were lesser known that

Speaker 15 they needed that extra fan support. So we gave them nicknames.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 what's the worst nickname you ever gave? The one that you wish you had back.

Speaker 15 The one you wish you had back.

Speaker 15 I don't know. They're all kind of bad at the end of the day.

Speaker 15 I think

Speaker 15 Jared Saltalamakia, we gave him the perm.

Speaker 4 That was pretty bad.

Speaker 4 That was pretty bad.

Speaker 15 The ice horse is still the best one, though.

Speaker 1 That's a great ice horse. Yeah, ice horse is a great one.

Speaker 15 Yeah, like sometimes like you give a nickname to someone and you're like, yeah, like that's, that's going to, that's going to pop.

Speaker 15 And then other ones, you're just like, oh, man, we are trying to get something over. That's just like, it's not going to work.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 A couple other personal questions, Jared. How many hours a week do you spend exclusively training biceps?

Speaker 15 Oh, so

Speaker 15 probably like two to three because I mean, I've just been, I'm on like a seven-day routine now. No, I don't do steroids.

Speaker 15 I know Billy's not in there right now, but I want to deny the steroid accusations once again. I also said I'm willing to take a steroid test.

Speaker 15 If you want to randomly drug test me, I will randomly drug test.

Speaker 8 Well, I don't, no one says you do steroids.

Speaker 1 Everyone says no no billy said i did steroids yeah you did do steroids i did steroids in 2011 right i never did steroids during my barcelic no one's saying you do them right now but everybody

Speaker 1 you billy did do steroids billy said i did steroids

Speaker 15 in

Speaker 4 during like multiple phases of my barcelona okay so that that means that you are a steroid user you are

Speaker 1 you have done

Speaker 4 you have done i was a steroid user no it's like it's like fucking a goat if you fuck a goat you're a goat fucker. Yeah, you've done that.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 15 You're a steroid.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I was a steroid user.

Speaker 1 You're on the Mitchell report.

Speaker 4 You're a recovering steroid user.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 I was on the Mitchell report.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 But I've turned and I've turned a new leaf.

Speaker 4 Other question. A little birdie told me, and I think that if true, this is a move that kind of rocks and I respect on your part.
I've heard that in your house, your living room is just your bedroom.

Speaker 1 Is that true?

Speaker 15 Yes, and no. Like, it's so the

Speaker 15 I bought this house, had a big, like a giant master bedroom. And I was like, I don't need all that room to sleep in.
So I turned the master bedroom into the media room.

Speaker 15 And then I'm, this is the podcast studio is the walk-in closet. So I just made my bedroom, like it's one of like the smaller rooms in the house.
I was like, I just, I'm going to sleep in there.

Speaker 15 Who cares? I don't need a lot of room in there. And then the big ass master bedroom is like the media room.
It has like the big TV wall.

Speaker 15 I'm going to put a bar in in there and then the walk-in closets, the podcast studio.

Speaker 4 So you made your master bedroom, which is so big, you turned that into the living room.

Speaker 15 Yes.

Speaker 1 You also don't, you don't really need a, do you need a bar in your house? Do you have people that come over?

Speaker 15 That's like, no, but like we could sponsor and make content.

Speaker 1 Okay. Like, okay, when I make a friend, I can't wait till you get a serious girlfriend and she's like, what is this house?

Speaker 1 What is going on here?

Speaker 4 That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 4 When I heard that story i was like jared like the second a woman walks into that house she's like uh we're fixing all this he basically made like he basically made a tree house no girls allowed yeah which again that's awesome yeah yeah

Speaker 15 just a full meathead gym in the basement and then a podcast to you i'm doing like a secret movie theater like a lot so there was like a there's always what do you mean secret movie theater you're the only one who's in on the secret i but i'm gonna keep the secret you're not gonna know where it is but it's it's gonna be uh you know how like the gas tanks, like if you like push on the gas tank door and like it pops open like that?

Speaker 15 Yeah. I'm going to have like a big ass like picture frame that you just like pop open like that and you open it.
And then it's going to be like this like little like movie thing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're doing sleepovers with yourself every night.

Speaker 1 It's awesome. Every night.
Listen, I mean, it is a dude's rock house. It's a dude's rock.

Speaker 15 I do have people over whenever there's a WWE pay-per-view, I have I have little dork parties. My friends come over.
It's kind of like a melting pot of people from all different sectors of my life.

Speaker 15 And I just made them become friends with each other because you need a wrestling group.

Speaker 1 Well, you've made them become friends with each other because you're not a reliable friend. I am a reliable friend.

Speaker 15 I have every single, every single wrestling pay-per-view they come over.

Speaker 15 Both of you are more than welcome to come over.

Speaker 1 I love it. You basically are,

Speaker 1 you know, like a five-year-old dreamed what their favorite, like their best house would look like when they grew up. And it's like, you know, we'll have

Speaker 1 the TVs everywhere. We'll have all my friends over for wrestling.
It's beautiful.

Speaker 4 We're going to watch baseball every day. How How long, like, how late into your day do you get before you think about baseball for the first time?

Speaker 15 I mean, immediately. I wake up in the morning and the first thing I do is check my phone and I'll look at my

Speaker 15 same thing that you guys do. Check my Twitter and then check Instagram and whatever.
You check the news, look at baseball, Reddit, and see what the stories are. I mean, it's immediate.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So like you open your eyes and you're just like, baseball.

Speaker 1 Baseball. Baseball.
Baseball. Baseball.

Speaker 4 Okay. I love that, Jared.

Speaker 1 You probably last long in bed. You're just always thinking about baseball.

Speaker 15 That's That's the trick.

Speaker 1 Jared Groves is never come. But the difference is

Speaker 1 he's just always thinking about baseball.

Speaker 4 He loves baseball so much that I think baseball makes him come.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true.
That's true.

Speaker 1 He has to think about football. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Have you ever thought about baseball while ejaculating, Jared?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 15 I mean, there's always a misfire there where you're thinking about baseball to last a little bit longer, and sometimes it doesn't always work. Oh, that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 And the other spot

Speaker 1 there. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Jared, as always, you're a great friend.

Speaker 1 Great talking to you. Everyone go subscribe.
Baseball is dead is his podcast with DraftKings. You're the best, man.
We miss you.

Speaker 15 Miss you too. Love you guys.
We'll do this again soon. All right.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Jared.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We got Firefest of the Week.
Henry.

Speaker 6 My Firefest Fest of the Week.

Speaker 6 I don't really know. It's not like a Fire Fest in the sense that it's something bad that happened to me.
It's just more

Speaker 6 embarrassing, I guess, to admit. I don't really know the right words for it, but

Speaker 6 I, like two weeks ago,

Speaker 6 watched one video on TikTok about the Harry Potter movies and the things that should have been in the movies that were in the book.

Speaker 6 And I, as a, you know, I was a fan of the books when I was super young. Didn't really love the movies.
Then I just started getting fed

Speaker 6 more Harry Potter TikTok.

Speaker 1 Yes. The algorithm got you.
Do the owls.

Speaker 6 I've just been watching all the Harry Potter movies.

Speaker 6 Like one TikTok video two weeks ago has led to like a large part of my

Speaker 6 free time just being spent consuming Harry Potter.

Speaker 4 You ever wonder if like the big corporations get involved in the TikTok algorithm? I've been thinking every time they've made you now go back and watch all the movies.

Speaker 6 I had, trust me, it's all been going through my head where it's like, it was truly one video, I liked it, which then just fed more videos, and then I was like, I'm going to go watch the movies.

Speaker 6 And then I was like, they got me.

Speaker 4 They got you, 100%.

Speaker 1 Dude, the algorithm is so bad now. If you click on one video, you just get it fed to you constantly.

Speaker 1 I get a shitload of like mom influencers, like, because there'll be like a funny video that, like, I'll send my wife shim back to me about, like, parenting is this.

Speaker 1 And now that's just my entire Instagram for you. It's like, I wanted, like, it was nice when it was just like sports clips and boobs, and now it's just something different.

Speaker 4 It's moms.

Speaker 6 My Instagram is just, it's, it's like stretches for your hips. That I, I saved one.

Speaker 1 I've never that could get hot, though.

Speaker 6 I don't do any of them. Yeah.
And it's like, I couldn't move my back. And now I do this stretch every day, and my lower back pain is gone.

Speaker 1 Back injury.

Speaker 6 And I don't, I don't do any of them. But every time I go, like, it was better when it was whales.

Speaker 1 You click on it.

Speaker 1 you click on one tweet, and it's just like, that's all you get for the rest of the day.

Speaker 4 You got to start just actively searching for whales and liking those TikToks, and then you'll be back.

Speaker 1 You also have to just start. I've just started muting things, like muting subjects as a whole that just be like, get away from me.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I've watched three Harry Potter movies this week. You know, I haven't

Speaker 1 seen

Speaker 6 three, four, five, or like half a five.

Speaker 4 I've never seen Harry Potter movies. I've never read any of the books.

Speaker 4 Can you give me, like, in 30 seconds or less, the entire Harry Potter series?

Speaker 6 Parents, kids get murdered.

Speaker 11 What? No.

Speaker 4 The parents' kids get murdered?

Speaker 6 Or no? The reverse.

Speaker 4 It's like Batman.

Speaker 1 Couldn't even go one sentence. We're at 15 seconds.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 2 How many movies have you watched this?

Speaker 1 This is dark as this shit. Parents.
Fucked-up kids get murdered.

Speaker 6 The fucked-up wizard sets up a kid for a lifetime of torture, and then he basically has to kill himself

Speaker 6 to save the realm. Is this true?

Speaker 1 Kind of.

Speaker 4 Okay. You described Batman.

Speaker 1 That plot is Batman.

Speaker 11 He doesn't kill himself.

Speaker 1 He goes fights himself. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 at one point, Dumbledore is the Dumbledore.

Speaker 6 The guy that you think is like the grandpa that's

Speaker 6 always there to help him. He's passed away in real life.
Is actually

Speaker 1 Sicko, yeah. He's not

Speaker 1 Batman. He kills himself?

Speaker 1 He kills himself, but then he comes back.

Speaker 6 It was a prophecy.

Speaker 2 So he didn't kill himself.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's lazy.

Speaker 1 The wizard. The wizard.
Is that not Batman? Yeah, no, it's his parents murder. Well, the parents murdered.

Speaker 4 And then he flies away on a helicopter and the bomb goes off, but then he's in Italy. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, I botched that horribly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 As I'm watching, I'm like, dude, Dumbledore is a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 You know what? Okay. He's not, though.
He knew that Harry had to sacrifice himself.

Speaker 6 He was so confused.

Speaker 1 He set him up. He just, that was like the way it had to be.

Speaker 1 You read them too, man?

Speaker 1 I didn't read them. Come on.

Speaker 1 You think I was right? This is something the PFDI just missed. Like, I remember being in college when kids were lining up to

Speaker 1 in the fucking scarfs and shit. Yeah,

Speaker 6 I read the books, and then I was like, these movies suck. Wrong.

Speaker 4 Which house are you, Hank?

Speaker 1 We also make fun of this guy all the time, and no one has said anything. What?

Speaker 1 The books are better than the movies guy. No, I know.

Speaker 1 If it's Hank, I play. Michael Lewis books.

Speaker 1 Always better than the movie.

Speaker 6 Big Short. Star Wars.
Ever heard of it?

Speaker 1 Moneyball? Ever heard of it? Blindside?

Speaker 6 Not that Bringing Down the House.

Speaker 1 Bringing Down the House? Yes.

Speaker 1 That wasn't Michael Lewis. I haven't read any of these books.
I haven't read any books in general.

Speaker 4 You're a Ravenclaw, Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're so good. You guys called me something that really hurt my feelings that I didn't even know what it was.
Slytherin. Slytherin.

Speaker 14 Slytherin.

Speaker 1 Slytherin? No. No, it was a fat guy.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. No, no, I get haggard about it.
You are haggard. I am haggard.
Yeah, that's all the YouTube.

Speaker 8 What's his cousin's name?

Speaker 1 Go watch the PM TV, by the way.

Speaker 1 Hagrid ran a 5K. Hagrid ran a 5K in the YouTube video.
I attempted to run a 5K. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are the comments on that right now?

Speaker 1 Like, you're crazy if you think anything that

Speaker 6 I just saw on the top one is pretty funny.

Speaker 1 It's actually funny. PFT, Firefest.

Speaker 4 No, Max.

Speaker 1 It's not how this works. You didn't raise your hand.
Max running point.

Speaker 2 Okay. Max, you

Speaker 4 kind of ran the 5K.

Speaker 1 We don't need to do this right now. No spoilers.

Speaker 4 Oh, you kind of ran a 5K.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's not spoilers.
It's a fact. He's kind of run a 5k.
It's just a fact. He kind of.

Speaker 6 He ran the 5k.

Speaker 1 No, I mean,

Speaker 1 are you talking about this one? That's honestly super impressive. That's a small cart and big cat sat in the back the whole time.
Not a thing. He started cramping, but he powered through it.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, everyone. No spoilers.
Go watch it on PM TV. Max runs a 5k.

Speaker 6 Kind of.

Speaker 1 I wonder what the other people running thought about Big Cat and Crew just cruising on a cart chirping a fat guy the whole run.

Speaker 1 It was a little weird. Yeah, it was a little weird.
Yeah, remember when you said that

Speaker 1 you couldn't run it because you had to catch a flight and then you stayed the entire time?

Speaker 1 I was like, I got to go to Tuscaloosa. I can't run this.
And then I just stayed the entire time.

Speaker 10 We can't get on a flight sweaty.

Speaker 1 Max, I was proud of you. That was a real company man thing.
Yep. Thank you.
You stepped up and you tried. I tried.
No spoilers.

Speaker 6 Five seconds.

Speaker 1 You think there's a chance you get addicted to running? Oh, did I say that to you? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 6 I have worked out more often since then. You did look strong.

Speaker 2 You looked very strong.

Speaker 1 You're a strong guy. Hagrid runs a 5K.
Go watch it right now. Please upvote.

Speaker 1 Okay, PFT, what's your firefest? Plug God.

Speaker 2 Tonight, Knoxville, Tennessee, 8.30 p.m., Pup Punk playing live.

Speaker 4 Free show at the Hill. Free show at The Hill.
Come on out.

Speaker 6 I feel like every college should have a place called The Hill.

Speaker 1 They should, yeah.

Speaker 6 It's just like, meet me at the Hill.

Speaker 2 The hill and like

Speaker 4 and high lawn. I feel like there's high lawns in every college town.

Speaker 1 Go to the hill tonight.

Speaker 4 Go to the hill. I'm going to be at the hill.
I'm on the hill tonight. Come see me.
Come see pup punk. It's going to be me, Roan, Robbie, Nick, Caroline.
We got fill-in guy on drums for Frankie.

Speaker 4 So please be nice and please nobody

Speaker 4 tell Frankie.

Speaker 1 Is Frankie still on his honeymoon? Yeah, he's fucking. How long is the honeymoon?

Speaker 4 He's fucking

Speaker 6 vacation Shane.

Speaker 2 I didn't.

Speaker 1 I honeymooned Shane.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the guy's name's Dom, and he he was actually the first drummer in pub pump history. He's second place, Dom of the Year.
Dom of the year. Second place in Dom of the Year.

Speaker 4 He was the first drummer that we had on Back to School. He played on that track, and then we went to Smitty, then we went to Frankie.
Been very happy with Frankie.

Speaker 4 But please don't tell Frankie how good this new drummer is. It really breaks him up when you hear that.
So don't do it. Don't do it.
No matter what, don't do it. But we're going to be at the Hill.

Speaker 4 It's going to be awesome. We've got like, I think an hour and 15.

Speaker 4 And yeah, it's going to be sick. So if you're in Knoxville, come out, say hi.
Vols for Life. We want to see you.
And we'll be there. I think we go on stage at like 8:30 or 9.
So free show.

Speaker 1 Come out. So your Firefest is playing Pop Punk? No, my Firefest.

Speaker 4 Oh, I said I derailed the Firefest. Oh, got it.

Speaker 1 They say in lieu of my Firefest. Oh, Plug God.
Got it. That makes sense.
I plug God. That was Plug God.

Speaker 4 But they are some of the most fun nights that we have.

Speaker 1 Come out, see us. Poppunk is a legitimately awesome band.

Speaker 4 It's always a good time. And maybe I'll play Freebird.

Speaker 1 Ooh. You won't.
Nice. I said maybe.

Speaker 1 You can't.

Speaker 1 I did. I I played Freebird.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I played Freebird at the Macro Dosing Live Show. I said I'd do it one time.
He did it once. I put my mind to it.
Accomplished.

Speaker 4 Check out my bio. Played Freebird once in your face.

Speaker 1 Okay, my Fire Fest.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 We've been stuck in the New York office all week. I miss my kids a lot.
That's about it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's been a long week.

Speaker 1 This is a long week. I don't know why we signed up for this long of a week.
It's very long. So I have to go to LSU on Saturday.
So, yeah, I won't be home till Saturday night.

Speaker 4 So we started the contest on Sunday. No spoilers.
Yeah. But on Monday, I was like, what day is it? Yeah.
Because I thought it was Thursday.

Speaker 1 Yeah. These are, this was a, because usually we do like our long, you know, we do Grit Week, we do Super Bowl week, but yeah, this was a random, very long week, and I do miss my children.

Speaker 1 So yeah, that would be my Fire Fest.

Speaker 4 Which one do you miss the most?

Speaker 8 My daughter. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1 Which Swifties, want to give me some credit for that? Yeah, come on. I always say my daughter's my favorite kid.

Speaker 4 Do you think that Swifties are going to to watch this Thursday night football game and be like, Thursday night football is a real problem. The quality of play is subpar.

Speaker 4 We need to get rid of Thursday night football.

Speaker 1 They're probably going to be mad at Al Michaels because he's like, we're not going to spend a lot of time on Taylor Swift. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So. And they'll probably be like, Sean Payton, what the fuck are you doing with that timeout?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 These are all real things. And I thought this Russell Wilson guy, I thought Sierra's husband was supposed to be good.
Yeah. Nope.

Speaker 7 He's bad. We almost had a gambi.
It was 198, 1927 is when it first happened. New York Yankees versus Buffalo Bisons.

Speaker 1 I don't ever forget.

Speaker 7 96 years ago to the day.

Speaker 1 To the day? October 12th. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 10 I'm trying to bring Jake's mic up and it's going down.

Speaker 6 Maybe you should turn it the other way.

Speaker 1 I was turning it the right way. This thing's fucking broken.
All right, I think it's good now. Leave it all in.
I love it. I love it.
Leave that all in. Leave that all in.

Speaker 1 I love how it didn't turn it the right way.

Speaker 1 I turned it the right way.

Speaker 10 This thing sucks.

Speaker 4 Max is getting cocky off of Phillies when he's so cocky that he's yelling at machines for being stupid.

Speaker 10 It's broken.

Speaker 1 This is turning it the wrong way. Shitty ass studio.

Speaker 11 If this was your level at the NLDS, what's next?

Speaker 1 I just need a break. Can you imagine Phillies winning eight more games?

Speaker 1 Where else is there to go?

Speaker 1 Good question, Jake.

Speaker 4 He's off his shirt.

Speaker 7 He's yelling at people.

Speaker 4 He's spitting on people.

Speaker 1 He's spitting on people.

Speaker 6 He cocked a Lugie on his boss.

Speaker 1 I also want it very clear. This is very different.
My future on the Phillies is very different than the Eagles' future.

Speaker 1 If I find an opportunity to hedge out that I can then start rooting against Max, I will.

Speaker 4 So, Max, you're at like a 12 today. Hank, you'll like that.

Speaker 1 That's the NLDS. How much plays I can do in Ada?

Speaker 2 How much higher can you get?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I just got to live my life.

Speaker 1 Max said during the game, he's like, my brain just shuts off during the game.

Speaker 2 He's like, when is it on?

Speaker 4 He's like a five-year-old watching sports. Max, I want you to say the thing that you said about which part of watching baseball you like and which part you don't like i i i'll stand i'll stand that by

Speaker 4 uh controversial take alert so if you're if you're in the company of minors if there's anybody that's sensitive to extreme discussions and like frankly real talk that some people aren't real baseball that aren't ready to have please turn off your radio right now

Speaker 1 all right max

Speaker 1 first off people are so confused right now we're filming fire firefest after the phillies games yes okay After I've said that. Yeah.
I think people

Speaker 4 came out.

Speaker 1 We just talked a lot about the Phillies winning.

Speaker 1 But before this, we were like, I kept being...

Speaker 6 We congratulated you multiple times. I know, but

Speaker 1 I kept being mad at you for doing that. But now, whatever.
People can figure it out. All right, so controversial.
So

Speaker 1 what I said was,

Speaker 1 I like when my team is on offense, and I don't like when my team is on defense. That wasn't a hiccup, by the way.

Speaker 1 Okay, so don't forget to say that. It's like it wasn't that much.
No, it wasn't. Look at the cat's face.
He tells it wasn't. No, it wasn't.
He ate a lot of pasta. That wasn't a hiccup.

Speaker 1 That was clearing my throat.

Speaker 1 I could see you look at each other. I could see you two.
Let's go back to the tapes.

Speaker 4 Max, why is that? Max,

Speaker 1 were you on my side of the debate that I bodied everyone in in the gambling cave about

Speaker 1 the top of the ninth? With the walls. No, I was on your side that whole time, for sure.
We had a round. Hank, I want to see how you will answer if you're a real seam head.

Speaker 1 And, Jake, you can chime in too.

Speaker 1 Top of the ninth, 3-1, first batter. Would you rather give up a walk or a solo shot?

Speaker 1 I'd rather give up a solo shot. 3-1 shot.

Speaker 1 3-1.

Speaker 7 There's some momentum. Guy on base.

Speaker 6 Solo shot. Get the crowd fired up.

Speaker 1 No, it's the road team. The road team.

Speaker 1 The brain.

Speaker 6 Shut the crowd up.

Speaker 10 No. Both are bad for the Phillies.

Speaker 6 All right, it's a walk.

Speaker 1 You'd rather give up. What are you answering? What would you rather give up?

Speaker 1 A A walk or a solo shot up 3-1 in the top of the ninth?

Speaker 2 First bat.

Speaker 6 I misheard all that.

Speaker 6 I thought we were down 3-1. You'd rather give up a solo shot?

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. Good.
Who are you? People were disagreeing crazy.

Speaker 1 I don't even remember who was.

Speaker 6 Because you had your closer, and your closer is in there to get three outs. If he gives up a home run, it's like you still just have to get three outs.

Speaker 4 You get the run on first, all of a sudden, the tying run is on base. Yeah, and it's just all the nerves.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the nerves.

Speaker 1 I texted our friend Dan Heron. He said, no question, you'd rather give up a solo shot.

Speaker 7 And all it takes is one pass ball, and we bleed off men on second.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. He said,

Speaker 1 you got to make them put the barrel on the bat. Sorry for the trigger word.
Knock her out of the park. No disrespect.

Speaker 1 Max is like high right now. I don't know what.

Speaker 11 I just don't know about the next three weeks if they go that far.

Speaker 4 Oh, God, we got three weeks of this.

Speaker 1 Well, it's also

Speaker 1 in the trust tree. Can I say something in the trust tree that no one can get mad at me for? Can I say something? Yes.
I want everyone to agree, yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 It's like emergency exit on the the airplane. You need a verbal.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 It would be a little bit funny if you had like a minor, minor heart attack. No.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would. You said it should.

Speaker 1 You said you can't judge me. You're right.
Not a one that like, I'm just saying, like, in the middle of like a game, you're like, ah,

Speaker 1 we had to, like.

Speaker 1 Like, one that we can wait a couple hours to take you to the hospital and they're like, oh, you're fine. Like, drink this laxative.
You're just constipated.

Speaker 1 I'd probably sue you guys. Yeah.
Yeah, you just sue yourself.

Speaker 6 No, that's worse than Taylor.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I'd probably sue you. So, Max, you can't do it.
What would you do,

Speaker 1 Saturday, November 4th, World Series game seven?

Speaker 11 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 It's just go on for a few minutes.

Speaker 4 You're going to have a heart attack at this pace.

Speaker 4 You are on pace for a minor heart attack.

Speaker 1 No, I think the seven-game series, you have a little bit more breathing room.

Speaker 1 There's something about the short series, it's like well, and also, like, tonight was a must-win because you couldn't go back to Atlanta. Yeah, but like, I think,

Speaker 1 like, the

Speaker 1 short series, the short series, it's like every one is so important because you lose one and you're just back that much. Although

Speaker 1 when you go to a seven-game series and you start the two games at home, you have to win both at least one of them, but mostly both.

Speaker 1 But you have to win at least one. So you could be back into a must-win like that.

Speaker 2 I'll be fine.

Speaker 1 If you lose game one, game two is a must-win. I'll be fine.
I'll be so chill.

Speaker 2 That's be so chill. I'll be so chill.
In a weird, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 I almost like it when my team. Yeah, you just said that you do.

Speaker 2 I said it would be kind of funny.

Speaker 4 When my team

Speaker 1 doesn't have home feeling, a really minor one. Is your mom gonna be mad? Because you split.

Speaker 6 My mom's gonna be mad at me.

Speaker 1 And now you've got it. I have my mom called me while we were recording and just said, call me, period.
I think she's upset with the way I talk to Clemmer, and I'm worried about the phone call.

Speaker 1 We're gonna have to have it. Well, Clemmer was triggering you

Speaker 1 by saying the word barrel.

Speaker 6 Should we get her on the show?

Speaker 1 No, we should not. She would be, then she would be.
All right, well, tell her I was just joking. And again, I very much qualified it as a minor, like very minor heart attack.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Very minor. And also, I'm sorry that your son said that stuff about titty fucking.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Will you titty fuck if the Phillies win the World Series?

Speaker 1 Celebratory? No comment.

Speaker 1 I'm done talking about titty fucking.

Speaker 1 Jake, you're Firefest.

Speaker 7 Yeah, my confidence putting the golf ball is at an all-time low.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 7 It's really bad.

Speaker 2 What's happening?

Speaker 7 I'm good for one missed putt within two feet every round.

Speaker 1 PSC was a witness last time. Within two feet?

Speaker 1 It's bad.

Speaker 4 How far was that putt that you missed? It was probably two feet.

Speaker 4 I think it was 18 inches. You missed an 18-incher.

Speaker 1 It's all in my head.

Speaker 7 It's really bad.

Speaker 6 And it's winner. Who cares?

Speaker 1 It's true. It's winner.

Speaker 7 That's when no one's watching.

Speaker 11 What's the quote?

Speaker 7 Like, you get better when no one's watching?

Speaker 4 That's true. But also, Jake, here's a piece of advice for you.
Something like that.

Speaker 4 Just start cheating.

Speaker 1 That might be a quote. Just don't put the ball when it's a foot away.

Speaker 4 Pick it up.

Speaker 1 Don't putt the ball when it's two feet away. Pick it up.
Pick it up. No, I take gimmicks.

Speaker 6 I don't take gimmis.

Speaker 1 Well, that's dumb. Now I don't feel bad for you.
Bro, I don't take gimmies when I'm filming. Yeah, now I feel bad for you.
The ball needs to go in the hole. No, I feel bad.
I don't feel bad for you.

Speaker 4 You pick up the ball. It's a gimme.

Speaker 1 But not when I'm filming. It's mental.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Your tone in the videos are

Speaker 2 depressing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hanks are.

Speaker 1 Had to have a talk with you about how depressing the videos were.

Speaker 6 All right, here's another golf video.

Speaker 11 I'm scared the hole in the wall was peak.

Speaker 1 But that's legend.

Speaker 1 Real. It's a pretty good peak.

Speaker 7 I'm going back there tomorrow

Speaker 1 to try to get a hole in one for the first time for the second time.

Speaker 11 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I wish you luck. Make sure you video it.
I will. Okay.

Speaker 11 We'll see.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Anything else? Good show, everyone.
Max, get some sleep.

Speaker 1 Nah, I got an early flight. Fucking

Speaker 1 fuck. How early? 8:45.
Oh, man. I got so got it.
Stress. No, no stress.

Speaker 1 Stress is. I'm

Speaker 1 good for the weekend.

Speaker 4 Are you supposed to travel when you have stress?

Speaker 6 When your blood pressure is that high?

Speaker 1 Your blood pressure is probably really high. I think I had to fly.
After the Super Bowl, I had an issue on that fly.

Speaker 1 Like, I actually didn't have the week at all.

Speaker 1 I thought I was having a hard time. Oh, there's nothing worse than like a super, super hungover flight.

Speaker 4 No, I didn't drink at all Super Bowl week.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Numbers.

Speaker 1 3.

Speaker 7 18.

Speaker 1 69 memes. Have you ever gotten it? Evan, have you ever gotten it? No.

Speaker 4 51.

Speaker 1 By the way, new studio two weeks away. 10 days.
10 days, although we are not going to open the new studio. Hank is going to be gone in two weeks for a weekend.

Speaker 1 We will not open it without Hanks. Where are you going?

Speaker 6 My best friend's getting married on Sunday.

Speaker 1 We will not. Nice.

Speaker 1 We will wait for Hank.

Speaker 4 Oh, nice. Vacation?

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
My close friends will hang. But I told Hank, we're not opening the new studio without him.
No, we went to that.

Speaker 1 If we're in the new office in two weeks, which hopefully we are, knock on wood,

Speaker 1 we will just find one of the other studios.

Speaker 1 So we will make sure we're all together for the opening of the brand new studio. But two weeks? Oh, also.

Speaker 4 A video went out on, it was an X video. It went on X.com today.
All right.

Speaker 1 Thanks for watching.

Speaker 4 From the top of the Gillette Stadium Lighthouse, the Patriots put out a panoramic view.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 I didn't see any water, Hank.

Speaker 6 I didn't.

Speaker 4 I'm just being honest. I wanted.
I was looking very hard.

Speaker 1 You don't understand fucking videos.

Speaker 4 You don't understand X videos. I do understand X videos.
How many X videos do you watch a week?

Speaker 6 No, this is insane. This is just insane.

Speaker 1 We're never getting out of here.

Speaker 6 No, but PFT is an idiot. That's all you need to know.
Fact or fiction.

Speaker 1 A video. Yeah, like never mind.

Speaker 1 It's very simple. Oh, okay.

Speaker 6 If you see a video and you say that's 100 yards away, versus if you're standing in person, it's much clearer 100 yards away.

Speaker 1 Are we doing this? We literally said numbers. We said numbers.

Speaker 1 You didn't answer the question.

Speaker 1 You can't see it because it's a fucking video.

Speaker 4 Okay, so what do you need?

Speaker 6 If you were standing on the top of the lighthouse,

Speaker 6 you would see the federally funded Neponza River.

Speaker 1 But because it's a video, you can't see it?

Speaker 4 With the river or the reservoir.

Speaker 1 So when you take a video of something, it's not, you can't see it?

Speaker 6 It's not the same. It's like when you take a taking a picture of the moon, have you ever been seeing the moon and been like, Oh my god, the moon looks fucking sick tonight?

Speaker 6 And then you take a picture, it looks like shit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and pictures. I've seen so many pictures that are way clearer of the moon.

Speaker 1 Is that how far the federally funded Nabonza River is? As far away as the moon, I'm not.

Speaker 6 We're not getting into this. You guys are

Speaker 1 not getting into it.

Speaker 6 Is it the reservoir of the river?

Speaker 8 There's two.

Speaker 1 I'm hearing a buzzing now. All right, let's do numbers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's do numbers. All right, 91.
69, 91 for Evan.

Speaker 1 Save by the buzz.

Speaker 1 Hank? Three.

Speaker 1 Jake? 18.

Speaker 2 Max?

Speaker 1 8. Cassiano's Legend.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 1 21. We'll have a new.
Is the new lottery ball machine going to be there, too? Yeah. It's ready to go.
Yeah. It's actually fucking sick.

Speaker 1 And it's got colored numbers, colored balls, like different, so people can start doing

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 6 All the geeks out there are going to love it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's going to be big time.

Speaker 1 Why'd you look at Jake when you said that? I didn't.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure. Well, no, it's cool.
It'll be like, oh, like three purples in a row. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Just more little trends and shit. Yeah.

Speaker 8 For the geeks.

Speaker 1 It will be.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 See everyone on Monday. Love you guys.

Speaker 1 up

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 know

Speaker 1 Can't you hold you

Speaker 1 as it says?

Speaker 1 I'm not saying it's about me standing

Speaker 1 by this I can say it's the better to be safe inside

Speaker 1 It's the better to be safe inside

Speaker 1 Take me on.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 will

Speaker 1 take you to

Speaker 1 say

Speaker 1 just to play my birthday wave.

Speaker 1 You all the things I thought to remember.

Speaker 1 Shine it away.

Speaker 1 I'll become a beauty anyway. Take me.