Ryan Fitzpatrick, Playoff Baseball Talk, CFB Wrap Up + Jimbos

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Playoff Baseball Talk, CFB Wrap Up + Jimbos

October 11, 2023 1h 55m Explicit

Jordan Love might stink. We talk Monday Night Football and residual clean up from Sunday (00:00:00-00:11:09). Playoff baseball and Max's brain is in a pickle after the Game 2 loss in Atlanta (00:11:09-00:32:46). College Football talk, is Bama back (00:32:46-00:44:38)? And Sark coaching to lose. Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Mark Davis and Lebron James (00:44:38-01:00:49). Ryan Fitzpatrick joins us to talk football, QB play around the league, how hard it is to deal with the media and more (01:00:49-01:39:44). We finish with Jimbos (01:39:44-01:53:24).


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We're talking about logistics of being a quarterback, everything with Ryan Fitzpatrick, also water slides. We're going to talk some Monday Night Football, playoff baseball.
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Today is Wednesday, October 11th. And PFT? Jordan Love might suck.
I heard you smiling when you say that. He didn't look good on Monday Night Football.
I was smiling. He looked pretty bad.
Both teams look bad. Can we say that?

Football looked bad on Monday.

I thought the Raiders looked scrappy.

A little bit scrappier than I thought they'd be.

Jimmy G didn't play super consistently.

Jacoby Myers, not a New England Patriot. Why is that, Hank?

He didn't resign.

They didn't want to pay him.

Okay.

Interesting.

There's your answer.

He looked like he had some fight in him. Yeah.
No, I have a fun blind resume for you. Ready for this? QB1, last two games, 428 yards, one TD, five interceptions.
QB2, 615 yards, eight touchdowns, one interception. I think the second quarterback is, well, the first one's definitely Justin Fields.
Wrong. What? Yeah.
But Justin Fields stinks. No.
Eight touchdowns, one interception, last two games. That's Justin Fields.
I like how I let Big Cat just go off on that. Yeah, but listen, it was nice to watch a Monday Night Football game and be like, oh, maybe the Packers don't have a Hall of Fame quarterback.
I still think that they'll probably figure something out because I'm just used to that. Yeah, you know how when we did the interview with Aaron Rodgers and you said that every year that the Packers don't win the Super Bowl, that's like your Super Bowl? This year your Super Bowl is just Jordan Love not being a top three quarterback in the NFL.
Yeah, and I'm winning a lot of Super. Yeah, you're winning.
You've won. Week one.
Week one, you lost. Week one, I lost.
Yeah. Horrifically.
But I actually thought the Raiders are in that weird spot where I think they might be scrappy. They'll probably win a few games here.
You're forgetting about who their coach is. Yeah, their coach is a big, dumb, fat idiot.
And Josh McTanis, by the way, his face is getting fatter. And he loves field goals.
Loves field goals. Loves field goals.
He did another crazy field goal. Got blocked.
I think it was fourth and one right around midfield. Yep.
It ended up being a super long field goal. Didn't work out for him.
He loves field goals. He is in love.
He wants to marry a field goal. He loves field goals.
But, yeah, the Raiders, I don't know. Something about them.
I think it's just because they do have enough dudes. Devontae Adams, Max Crosby, Josh Jacobs.
Jacoby Myers. Jimmy Garoppolo.
They have some dudes you you're including jimmy g as a dude he's a dog we know he's a dog i think i've i feel like jimmy g going to las vegas and uh maybe not being on the best team but like scrapping around if they end up with like six wins seven wins my uh respect for jimmy g will go up I was thinking about this last night. My respect for Jimmy G went up thinking about the fact that he took the contract to go play in Las Vegas, be what, $67.5 million? $67.5 million to go hang out in Las Vegas and just fuck around for a few years with probably zero expectation of winning, that's a dog.
That's a dog move. He did not do that to win football games.
He did that to fuck around and have a good time. I respect the hell out of it.
It's like when Manny Machado went to San Diego. Yeah, exactly.
Like Chris Bryant going to Denver. Good career move.
Yeah. Go play some baseball.
No pressure. Yeah, I guess the Ra the Raiders still have, you know, they're still like a kind of a national brand, but really no one expects anything out of them.
And you get to make a lot of money. You get to live in Vegas, win a couple games.
Did you see Devontae Adams actually said that Jimmy Garoppolo is, I can't remember the exact quote. It was something about how Jimmy Garoppolo doesn't come into the meetings

pretending that he knows everything.

And he's like, no slight to my other guys,

but it was definitely a slight to his other guys.

And I like that.

So Devontae Adams, he's won over Devontae Adams,

who I think Devontae Adams is firmly in,

will be mildly in trade rumors for the rest of his career.

Yeah.

Like just somewhere around there.

Well, like halfway through the season,

if the team's not doing well and he seems unhappy,

it's going to be every year.

It'll probably be this year too, actually.

Oh, I think it's already started this year.

We'll talk about who needs – oh, the Panthers need a wide receiver

if they want to contend.

Panthers need a wide receiver.

Maybe look at that.

Also, we had brother kickers last night.

We had –

I missed that one.

That's on me.

I should have warned you guys. You should have.
You should have. We had Anders Carlson and Daniel Carlson both kicking.
Anders Bjorn Carlson and then Daniel Vilheim Carlson. Very European.
I think they're Norwegian, but via Texas, by way of Texas. They both played in Texas? No, they were both born in Texas.
Born in Texas. Here was a quote.
He's one of the best that I've been around in any position, let alone quarterback, of taking accountability, not taking anything away from Derek and Aaron. It felt like it was taking something away from them, but basically Jimmy G will come in and be like, yeah, I fucked up, guys.
Yeah, because he probably doesn't really have an ego to him. Yeah, right.
He might have an ego.

It's hard to be that attractive and not have an ego.

He's got a slight ego.

Well, he's not like a great quarterback, so that probably keeps him humble.

If you were that good looking, you would wake up every day thinking that you were personally touched by God.

Like, okay.

He chose you.

I'm him.

Yes, absolutely.

Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, I'm looking forward to the debate between Aaron Rodgers and Dr. Fauci and Travis Kelsey.
Yeah, it'll be good. So Aaron challenged Travis, a.k.a.
Mr. Fizer, to a debate.
And Aaron talked about being called Mr. Johnson and Johnson, too.
So it's going to be a battle of the titans. I can't wait to hear.
I'm sure they're both very well read the literature yeah uh so i hope that i hope that debate actually happens do you think it would it change would change people's minds oh absolutely i think everyone i think this i think the whole world would be better for it well for you big cat it would be interesting because the swifties would then hate aaron rogers yeah so then you can find common ground though i like him now the enemy of your enemy is your friend. That's true.
And just so everyone's clear under debate laws, if Travis Kelsey and Dr. Fauci do not accept the debate, they have lost.
Yes. That is how debates work online.
All recurring guests. All three of them.
Oh, wow. Oh, yeah.
How about that? You got to get Robert F. Kennedy on.
You guys can mediate. Yeah.
Yeah. I would like to challenge Miley Cyrus to a private debate.
If she doesn't accept, then she loses. I want to have an intellectual conversation with her.
Other things, other follow-up before we get to college football, and we want to talk some playoff baseball as well. Micah Parsons had a hell of a quote after the 49ers kicked the shit out of the cowboys george kittle did have a fuck dallas shirt on underneath which i love yeah people i think there was maybe some cowboys and cowboys fans were upset about it that's just sports baby that's rivalry i love that shit but micah parsons said i think we're we're the same caliber playoff team.
The score doesn't really show what happened out there. I don't know.
I mean, I think the score, maybe it was worse. Well, he also said, I'm going to say this, laugh now, cry later.
Oh. And then Debo came back.
We got podcast wars going on right now because Micah said that on his podcast. And then Debo went on Hank, your girl, Kay Adams show.
And Debo said, shout out. We got something for that.
Just trust. If we see them again, just trust.
You're going to make it personal. We can make it personal.
I don't think the Cowboys want to see us again. It might be a little worse.
So Debo's saying like, all right, fuck Dallas.

Ass kicking even more.

Also, how many people that got upset at George Kittle wearing a fuck Dallas shirt

currently own fuck Philly shirts?

Yes.

Like fuck the Eagles shirts.

Very good.

Probably most of them.

That's a very good point.

Speaking of Philly.

We actually have fuck Dallas merch in the Barstool store, right?

Yeah, I love it. I'm for all of it.
I will buy one. Speaking of Philly, we actually have Fuck Dallas merch in the Barstool store.
Yeah, I love it. I'm for all of it.
I will buy one. Speaking of Philly, on Monday night, the Phillies lost what was an incredible, incredible playoff baseball game in tragic, tragic fashion.
Our boy Max is down pretty bad, but I got something to show you up. What was the score? It was 5-4, and here's the bad part.
Was it close the whole game? No, the Phillies were up 4-0, and Zach Wheeler actually had a no-hitter. Ooh.
And then... Max is giving the finger through the glass.
Subscribe to YouTube. Oh, Hank.
Sorry. To be fair, Max was giving Hank the ring finger.
Yes. And also, to be fair, Max was giving Hank the ring finger on his right hand.

Yeah.

I was not doing the ring finger.

I'm just trying to set this.

I care about the listeners, Max.

I'm just trying to set the scene.

I'll set the scene.

So it was 4-0.

Phillies?

Phillies.

In Atlanta, they're already up 1-0.

Could hear a pin drop at Truist Stadium.

Blooper was beside himself. Yeah, said Said Zach Wheeler was pitching phenomenally Max, who is the manager of the Phillies Decided to bring Zach Wheeler out in the 7th People were like, hey Max, that's probably a bad idea No one said that, by the way Max, objection I was in the seventh, people were like, hey, Max, that's probably a bad idea.
No one said that, by the way. Max, objection.
I was in the room, and we were all saying, myself included, that the wheels are falling off. And it wasn't meant as a pun for Zach Wheeler.
We actually meant that the wheels were falling off. He gave up, like, two consecutive hard-hit balls, walked a guy.
I think three out of five batters got on base, and they were decently hit baseballs. It was not the same Zach Wheeler.
He walked a guy, then he struck a guy out. So the wheels weren't falling off.
And then what happened? He threw one bad pitch. He threw one bad pitch.
Which might have had a whistle in front of it. Correct.
There was a whistle. There was a whistle in front of both.
I'm still waiting for someone to give me some more film breakdown of the whistles. Yeah.
Because all I've seen is whistles in front of the home runs, and I haven't seen any non-whistles. Are you saying people can't whistle at a baseball game? I am not saying anything.
There was evidence provided for me, and now I'm just asking for someone else to go find some more evidence. He's asking to open the investigation.
Yes. Were they the same pitches? Yes.
Same type of sliders. Both whistles.
According to our investigative journalist, Jack Mack, he said that that is also... What was that sound? Yeah, that was gross.
Jack Mack is the best investigative reporter in the world right now. He's a great investigative reporter, but I think he likes to make these these things he's a sensationalist.
Jack Mack is basically made out of the internet. Yeah, he knows the internet better than anyone else.
That disrespect was disgusting. No, I was, no, no, no, no.
I respect Jack Mack's craft. He's a great investigative journalist.
I'll tell you what, Hank, you keep up with this, Jack Mack will have that fucking lighthouse teared down. He, I'm just saying from Max's perspective, like this needs to be coming from a Phillies fan, not an unbiased

you know. He doesn't like the Braves.

Interesting.

You just said

it needs to be

you gotta pick your side here.

He's not a Phillies fan. It's not like this isn't

Phillies fans. But you want

biased or you want unbiased? That's fact.

Fact or fiction. You want bias or unbiased? I want biased.
I just said that to you. He doesn't like the Braves.
All right. Continue.
Okay. What did he find? Sorry for interrupting.
No, the other thing that he said, that something with the Navy SEALs and whistling means that slider. I don't know.
With the Navy SEALs? Yeah, no, I stand corrected. I stand? With the Navy Seals coming? Jack Mack was right.
I don't know. Look at his tweet.
It was something about Navy Seals. I'm sure it was a slider.
It could have been a sweeper or a slurve or a slutter. Yeah, maybe it was a sweeper.
It was something. The slutter is my favorite.
Wait. The slider coming.
Navy Seals whistle before a slider's coming? I'm going to – let me check my back here. I'm pulling it up.
I'm pulling it up. Don't worry about it right you get it you get it max we got more questions about this game so this was a devastating loss uh yes as you as you can tell from my reaction because you guys were up you're about to win both games in atlanta go back to the bank only need one at the, and take down the best offense in baseball this year.

Maybe historically.

I don't know if they were historically the best offense.

But you're on cruise control, and you kind of let your hand off the wheel,

and you put Zach Wheeler back out there in the seventh.

And now it feels like the Braves just got all the momentum back.

Well, they got to go to the bank. They got to go to the bank.
got to go to the bank good at stopping momentum big cat forgot about the bank and here's here's the one positive thing for you max which i think is the worst move ever do you know the did a red carpet yes that's that was red carpet talk about champagne wait for what to to to to get on the bus to go to the airport. For game three of the NLDS.
Rest up. Fans out there.
Red carpet. Do they do that frequently? I don't know.
We need to find. Would they have done it down 0-2? Yeah.
If this is the first time that they've done it, this is a colossal mistake. If it's something they do every time, then I don't really see a problem with it.
Crazy. It's weird.

It's a weird move.

It's a weird move, but it's way worse if it's the first time they've done it.

Yes.

So they did a red carpet walk to the airport.

I don't know.

I thought that was a little weird.

It's a little strange for sure.

But the bank.

You got the bank.

The bank is there.

The cat and I were discussing after the game was over, these next two games are going to

be a referendum on the bank.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The bank has a statement game.

It's the bank's series to win right now.

And lose.

And lose.

If you guys drop two at the bank, the bank is trash.

The bank might be beneath the lighthouse if this is what happens.

What are you going to say, Hank?

Jack Mack's wording was,

I checked with my Navy SEAL friend who said the whistle is literally used to signal a sweep is coming, a.k.a. a slider.
Oh. Why does the Navy SEAL sweep? Where does he have any expertise in baseball? Is he also a baseball player? You don't know where they were getting their signs.
They could be doing some military stuff. Yeah, they could be doing some military stuff.
It's all Pitchcom now. They could have been hacking into the database.

That's true. Navy SEALs outside in a van.
Yeah, I'm sure there's some ex-Navy SEALs Braves fans. These are all things that could be happening.
They could be happening. You know what? I'm on board.
I think that's exactly what happened. Braves are cheating.
Unless the Phillies beat them. Well, no, especially if the Phillies beat them.
If, yeah, yeah, yeah. If the Braves beat the Phillies, then they were extra cheating.
I'm seeing from a member of Braves Twitter that they do this for every postseason. Oh.
Looking for more. It's still weird, for sure.
Yeah, they cheat during every postseason. Looking for more confirmation.
Oh, no, the red carpet thing. Either way, we should give credit to the Braves.
Irish honey dip. Because that was an incredible, like, big moment after big moment.
It was insane. Riley hitting the one-handed home run, doubling up Bryce at the end of the game, that catch at center field.
Crowd was going insane. It was awesome.
It reminded me just how, like, when baseball playoffs hit in one of those games that just every pitch feels so intense, there's really nothing like it. Yeah.
I don't see see you usually don't see a bigger turnaround in emotions than a deep drive to center field. Castellano said it right.
Crushed it. Crushed it.
Crushed it. Catch at the wall.
Leaping. I thought it was gone.
Leaping catch. Everybody.
Every Phillies fan is just standing up. Every Braves fan is in dismay.
He catches it. turns around, and then doubles Bryce up at first base.

The swing of emotions in about a 10-second span was incredible.

I think the only better walk-off play,

obviously I think a walk-off home run is incredible at home.

If you get a walk-off where the outfielder catches it,

runner at third tags up, thrown out at home play,

that's a little bit better, but this was really good.

This was really good.

I disagree. I did not like it.
Did they cheat on that play? No, it was a good baseball play. Quick question, Max.
Sorry, again, for being a little uninformed. That's why I asked Big Cat to clarify.
But I just saw these videos, and they were both right down the middle in the middle of the zone. Was that cheating, or whistle.
Was that cheating or was that? They were not right down the middle.

The whistle was, hey, here comes the meatball.

They were both sliders.

Let's get the Navy SEALs do it for sweeps.

The Wheeler one may have been right down the middle.

Wait, but the Navy SEALs do it for sweeps?

Yeah, for sweeps.

What's sweeps?

Like sweeps week when they give a car away on a game show. Yeah, something like that..
When Navy Seals and Ed McMahon kick your door open and give you a prize? Right, exactly. Yes, the play was unbelievable by Michael Harris, and it was gut-wrenching and everything.
But I still think that the fact that they came back in the ninth after giving up the two runs. Oh, no.
No. No, no, no, no.
Statement loss. No, not a statement loss.
But I do like the fact that they... Like, Cassiano's hit the ball to win the...
Like, he hit... He didn't hit it out of the park, man.
No. That caught.
He hit the ball. Regardless, that was an...
Trying to win the game. No, that was an...
Put your fucking hand down. Max, you're talking about BAPIP.
You got cursed by the BAPIP. Oh, BAPIP.
That was you for your... Yeah, the Nationals had really bad BAPIP luck, which is batting average on balls in play.
Because if you hit a ball in play, ultimately it's kind of luck whether or not it gets caught or hit to a fielder or not. You're saying he hit the ball perfectly.
It's just dumb luck that their center fielder happened to make a spectacular play using his own skill that he's worked on. I'm not saying it's a very good play by the Braves, but I would much rather see go down like that than if they were to roll over.
It's not bad. That is the right take.
You can see it with your two eyes. Would you rather them roll over and look like their entire existence?

The handshake needs to stop.

I have a question.

I don't want to interrupt.

I'm trying to learn, educate.

All I'm trying to say is that the team showed enough fight to win that game.

The Braves just played better in the ninth.

I would rather see.

Statement loss.

Not a statement loss.

I'm not saying.

You guys aren't understanding what I'm saying.

It's a good loss.

I'm saying. It's a good loss.
It's not a good loss. It was a bad loss.
The ninth inning, I'm... You're saying it's a better way to lose than a bad loss.
You're saying the Phillies kept trying. You guys...
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. Max, question.
Let's figure this out. No, at first.
Yeah, wait, no. Yeah, Hank did.
That was the worst. Was the teacher called on someone before? Max gets to decide who to call on.
PFT. Max called on me, and then Hank gets to go.
Popcorn. Hey, Max, you would say that that's a better way to lose than a bad loss, right? Than going down without any heart, right? Correct.
Okay, so what's another word for better than bad? You're losing me. Good? Is good better than bad? No.
Decent. Give me a word.
Give me one word. Big cat.
That's not what I'm looking for, Max. My question was, Hank, do you have a question? Yeah, I do.
Max, you played baseball a lot longer than me. That's the CAA.
You're the baseball guy. Three home runs.
All pinch hits. After hearing your question, I'm just wondering, is there a difference between a, let's call it a one foot out and a 398 foot out? No.
Okay. On the field, no.
But in the mentality of the player, yes. Like if you're seeing the ball well and you smoke a ball and he gets caught, you're obviously super pissed off.
But you're like, you know what? I saw that ball well. Baseball is a weird sport.
You can square one up and a guy makes a good play and there's nothing you can do about it but you still did your job to like all you can there's too many the hands the hands are are an issue with me right now I don't know why they're making me angry but they are I would I need people to just start talking and interrupting me because the hand okay I'll start I'll do you a favor on this one Max so you're saying it was a good way to lose i am not saying it was a good way to lose all i'm happy they lost i am not happy i think i got you i got you max i think what max is saying is after the game and this actually is a true story we were sitting in the gambling cave and max just was like mumbling under his breath he's like i need to see what that locker room looks like right. Castellanos had a great quote.
I want to be in that locker room. What Max is saying is Castellanos hit a ball so hard and so far that he probably got into the locker room after and was like, we basically won that game.
No, that is not what he's saying at all. Oh, shit.
That's not what he's saying. Sorry.
You guys are – what I am saying here makes sense, and you guys just like to play with me and get me angry. That is a fact.
I do like to play with you. Like, you know that it's going to work me up.
Hank, what would you like to say? As a baseball player, when you would hit – I guess I'm just trying to reason a little more. I think that it would be frustrating to hit a really, really good hard ball, but just not hard enough.
Are you ever like, damn, I wish I hit it harder. Or you're like, well, I hit it hard.
We call that warning track power. I hit it hard, but it's good enough.
In the moment, the answer is yes. You are just as angry.
Yeah, PFT. In the moment, you are just as angry when you smoke a ball out and you have a weak fly ball to the pitcher.
But after the game, you can be like, you know what? I did all I could do. I barreled a ball up.
A guy made it harder. You know, he did do all he could do.
He put it hit harder. But you can't just say, like, a home run.
Like, you can still hit the ball well and not hit a home run. He hit the ball well.
It didn't happen to be a home run. I think you're talking about Babbitt.
I'm not talking about Babbitt. That's literally what you're talking about right now.
I think. I don't know.
I'm talking about quabs, quality ABs. Yeah, Babbitt.
Quab. Babbitt.
When I was on the bench, I would make a quab chart in college, and it would just be quality ABs. Would you rather have a quab or run? Quabby patties all day.
Would you rather have a quab or a run? Yes, obviously you would rather have a run. But I'm saying, like, you can – if they went down 1-2-3 in the ninth inning striking out, I would have been a lot less – They would have lost.
Instead, they hit the ball really hard and they still lost. I'm talking about going into the next game.
It's three batters. It's actually better than that scenario though, which would make this a good loss.
Right. Hypothetically.
It's not a good loss. It's not a good loss.
It's a bad loss. It's better than the worst loss.

And you also left 11 runners on base.

I think I wish there was another word for better than bad.

Also, it was such a good hit that Bryce Harper thought it was going to be a double,

and that's why he got doubled up.

If it was a bad hit.

My hand is up. Sorry, PFT.

But if it was a bad hit, he still would have a runner on and a chance to win.

Sorry.

Continue.

PFT.

So, Max, would you say that the way that Bryce hustled back

to first base was good

because he almost beat that throwout?

Yeah. I just muted

myself. No.

But he almost got there.

He did everything he could do to get there.

I thought about this. It was a quality run.

Yeah, quality base running. No one's talking about it.

QBR. You thought about this?

I thought about this when I was laying in bed last night.

In your bed?

In your bed?

I need the two of you.

Yes, in my bed.

Max is just getting bodied left and right.

Do you remember as soon as Bryce Harper got on and he got on first base,

I was like, he's going to do something crazy on the base pass.

And he didn't.

No, I said it in a bad way.

Yeah.

No, you're going to do something awesome. I was scared of Bryce on the base pass because he he did.
No, I said it in a bad way. Yeah.
No, you said he's going to do something awesome.

I was scared of Bryce on the base pass because he's going to get overaggressive.

And he did.

That's a quality prediction.

Yeah, he did.

You did.

You didn't take that away.

You predicted how you were going to lose.

I can mute Hank's mic back here, so I just did that.

Okay.

Either way, two games at the bank, and the good news is Thursday night will be an elimination

game for one of the two teams, and we record a show after. Nice.
Yeah. I'm very excited.
You – Big Cat keeps saying that he has his future on the Phillies, and it is like he has never wanted to piss away money more than in this situation. Like, I have never seen a man who's trying to throw away thousands of dollars.
Listen, I am rooting. I'm rooting for the Phillies.
I'm rooting for the Phillies. No, you're not.
That makes me even more mad. I have a future on him, Max.
No, but this is like your classic win-win of just like you're so willing to burn money to see my reactions. Facts.
Facts. I'm rooting for the Phillies, but in the interest of the show, it would be better if the Phillies lost.
I am rooting for them. I want to say that for the record.
Oh, but PFT, think about my future. You want my future.
He muted you. You're muted.
You're muted. It would be better for the show.
Well, I think what Hank's saying is it would be better for the show if the Phillies lost later in the playoffs. Yes, the World Series.
That would be better. Also a great call by Brian Anderson.
Yes. Oh, fuck Brian Anderson.
What? He's just a – the fact that the Braves play on TBS every fucking postseason is bullshit. He's a pro.
No, he's not. He's a piece of garbage.
You don't know what you're talking about. The owner of the Braves owns TBS.

He's right.

Okay, but he's as neutral as it comes.

No, he's not neutral.

His boss is the same boss as the Braves.

Who signs his checks?

No way he's as neutral.

Milwaukee Brewers and TBS.

You can't be as neutral as it comes and have the owner of the team sign your checks.

He's neutral.

There's no way he's as neutral as it comes.

That's on the MLB for having TBS as the rights holder.

You can't blame him.

No, he should recuse himself. He should.
He absolutely should. All right, other series.
Wait, wait. I have a couple Photoshop suggestions for Max on Blooper.
I know that you're fighting that war. We have a great one cooking out the tricks.
I mean, I'm done with him. Blooper got the bestie last night, though.
He was tweeting your face out. The soul patch was out there he was coming at you pretty hard um what about what if it's blooper and he's in the limo with suge knight oh going down the vegas strip oh photos taken seconds before disaster what about blooper riding the back of jfk's limo oh blooper that well blooper jared fogel blooper takes fictional death threats very seriously yeah he does like what if it's bloopers head over over Bud Dwyer's face with me that's fair bag in the praise card like he literally like he's kind of just glossing over like that's just like so Philly to be like dude it's a fake death threat yeah it's a good point by Hank what I don't know what that means it's a bad point you're getting it again a fair point by hank i like this booth because max thinks he's tony reality back yes i i have all the other other series other series uh the diamondbacks went into los angeles and won two games dan heron's diamondbacks i only thing i fear is that if the dodgers lose again they're 100 going to get get the rules changed To make it so that the Dodgers can be automatically in the NLCS Because this will be back-to-back years It'll be bad, it'll be very bad But I'm rooting for the Diamondbacks, they're fun That was a fun game to watch Tommy Pham's batting third for them Yeah And then the Orioles are dead Also AWL Evan Longori on that team.
Yes, yes. The Orioles are dead.
Fun season. But that was a very bad way to go out.
Yeah, it's tough. Tough for Baltimore.
Tough for Camden Yards. It is nice seeing playoff baseball back in Baltimore.
Yeah, but you'd rather not get swept. And that was a fun fact.
So it's 7-1 right now on the bottom of the 7th. This will be the first time the Orioles get swept all year.
That's wild. That time to have that happen.
That's wild. You never know what could happen, though.
Yeah, never know what could happen. And then I'm fearful that the Astros are just back because they kicked the shit out of the Twins.
So it's 2-1 now? It's 2-1 now. And so the Twins have an elimination game on Wednesday afternoon.
So then we're looking at the Battle of Texas. Battle of Texas.
And we got to be Rangers fans. Yeah, Battle of Texas.
It's going to be all Southern CS. Battle of Texas and then Arizona versus Atlanta.
Battle of the A's. South is back.
Max is deep into trying to find some. Max is the king of 10 minutes after.
Be like, what I wanted to say. He gets his thoughts about it.
Max question. He gets his thoughts.
Yes, BFT. Do the Braves fans sing along to their walk-up songs when the Badgers come up to the plate? No.
Braves fans were dead. They were doing the chop.
The chop. SVP was doing the chop.
You want to talk about them doing the chop on Indigenous Peoples Day? Oh, that's a good one. You had that in your pocket.
All right. Yeah, because they took that day from you, Max, as an Italian.
I saw a lot of Sopranos clips yesterday, and I didn't know that as an Italianian i'm supposed to be pro christopher columbus but i learned that from from tony soprano yesterday uh yeah so playoff baseball has been great um should we talk some college football should we do some college football talk boys let's discuss there's making a sandwich and then there's crafting a sandwich and when i I want something perfectly crafted, I go straight to Boar's Head.

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We talked about it a little bit on Sunday,

but I think that Miami loss might have been the worst loss ever.

I think it'd be tough to find it.

Well, do you remember the game in the NFL last year?

It was the Patriots at the Las Vegas Raiders.

We're talking NFL or college football?

No, I'm just saying all losses.

Just losses.

Losses.

I don't think regular season counts for any of them.

Well, this was a regular season loss.

No, I'm saying, but all real bad losses are playoff losses.

This was a regular season loss.

The worst way to lose a game.

This is definitely up there.

I'd say top two, probably number one.

Not taking a knee.

35 seconds left in the game. 36 seconds.
The game is won. Yeah.
Game is over. Patriots game was tied.
The game is over. Makes it worse that they lost.
It does. It doesn't.
I watched that clip so many times and I still couldn't comprehend what was going on. Because not only did they not take a knee when they could have and the game would be over.
They f and yes i think his arm was down but you should have taken a knee so you should never had that happen georgia tech goes down the field in two plays wins the game and i know miami probably wasn't going to go to the college football playoff but they were undefeated and they had everything in front of them and now i don't know what like how do you bounce back from that i think the two biggest well the biggest loss of the weekend is prevent defense yes even defense took a major l this week oh yeah and we always we always talk about how stupid it is run your normal defense obviously you'll have to put in like a nickelback or uh or an extra guy in the secondary just to cover you know the threat of the down. But when you go so soft with everything, you just get steamrolled.
It happened in this game at the very end when they had no time left basically on the clock. It happened in the Red River shootout, excuse me, the Red River S-out.
Rivalry. Rivalry, where Oklahoma just marched down the field on Texas.
Just wide open guys running rough. You know what? They were running roughshod in the secondary on Saturday.
The only thing that it prevents you from is winning. Yep.
And it was the Red River rivalry was an it always delivers. I know there's some years where it's a blowout, but the chaotic nature of that game is so out of like, it's just so much fun.
Quinn Ewers comes out, throws two interceptions. And I think he completed like 19 in a row after that.

And Oklahoma, like Brent Venables, that was his statement.

I have arrived.

Forget Lincoln Riley.

We can stop being petty about Lincoln Riley leaving.

Like Brent Venables got you a defense.

They won you that game.

They should win the Big 12 regular season.

Meet Texas again in Dallas.

But yeah, Sark lost that game when he ran the ball on 39 to try to to settle for a field goal and then went into prevent defense and let oklahoma just go right down the field sark also temporarily won the game when i think they tried to ice texas's kicker and then sark just went out and started joking with the kicker he told i i want to know what was said to him because he like told him a funny joke and the kicker started to laugh Stark Stark started to laugh slapped him on the ass him out there dude splits the uprights on a long field goal looked like Texas had won the game and then the boys just played so deep in coverage got roasted and then yeah the golden cowboy hat one of the more underrated trophies in sports I It's like to put on yeah it fit really well in charlie strong yes he had a really shiny lubed up head that yes he did but yeah i think it would it would probably hurt to put on but um yeah oklahoma played a good game both teams played good until the very end and it was a fun game to watch the game's always crazy we we also had uh two statement wins from georgia and Michigan. So Michigan has not really played a ton of great teams yet.
James Franklin actually is getting spicy, which I like. So James Franklin had a quote today where he said, let me pull it up.
He said, there's a team in this conference that's buying out a ton of game contracts to go in another direction. You got to do whatever you possibly can to give yourself a chance to be undefeated just getting that shit talk going right now michigan like absolutely demolished minnesota pj flex said it was the best football team he's ever played against in his 11 years of coaching which is a great spin zone to have if you're a coach that gets your ass incredible incredible and that was like it was over instantly.
I think they had to pick six like 10 seconds in the game. And Georgia, which was so classically Georgia and also Kentucky, because like, oh, Kentucky going into Georgia.
Kentucky's looking good. Georgia just completely demolished from Brock Bowers.
Heisman very much alive. Jaden Daniels also could very well win the Heisman.
So I didn't get watch that game what was the stat line that brock put up uh brock had like 120 year ish yards and 132 37 132 and a just keep it in the back of your head there's there's a way that brock could get at least in the heisman final discussion i think jaden daniels also could be in the heisman because that lsu defense is so bad so every every game has to be a shootout. Yeah.
But, yeah, Georgia and Michigan both look very impressive in a year where we're like, who's the best team, who's the best team? And Alabama, boys, we might have buried them a little early. Look at this.
I'm actually going to go – I'm going to reverse everything we said a couple weeks ago after the USF game and they almost lost that game. Is this Nick Saban's best coaching job? I think Nick Saban deserves a contract for life.
Is this his best coaching job? I don't. He doesn't really have a quarterback.
Jalen Milrow. Well, he can still throw the deep ball.
He throws a great deep ball. It's going to be great when Tennessee plays Alabama.
It's going to just be run, run, deep ball, run, run, deep ball, because neither quarterback can throw the intermediate stuff yeah after the texas alabama game i put a few well actually at halftime of the texas alabama game i put a future on texas to win the natty and i put a future on alabama to win the natty just in case alabama somehow converted back to being alabama so ironically my line on alab the national championship was really, really juicy. Now I'm rooting for Alabama.
I mean, so they have a couple big games left. They have to go to Auburn for the Iron Bowl.
They have to play Tennessee at home. I think they have to go to Kentucky, and they have LSU as well at home.
So it's like there's some big-time games coming up. But Alabama has found something like we are a defensive team, and Jalen Milrow just does enough with the deep ball and his feet.
And that was also just a classic Jimbo Fisher. Like you need to win that game if you're Jimbo Fisher.
You have to win that game, and they don't win that game. And now Texas A&M fans are back to buy out Jimbo and all this stuff.
And yeah I like Alabama it's just so funny like I we overreact to everything here but it could be Nick Saban's best coaching job I like that let's run with that one and then and looking ahead to the matchups this weekend oh yeah oh yeah yeah Oregon Washington Oregon Washington USC Notre Dame have they announced where game day Oregon, Washington. That makes sense.
USC, Notre Dame. UCLA, Oregon State.
Yeah. Actually a sneaky good matchup.
USC. Miami, UNC.
Yes. We've got great games.
James Madison, Georgia Southern. That's a huge one.
You're forgetting probably the biggest shootout game in the world. Rivalry game, you mean? Yeah.
Yeah. Iowa-Wisconsin.
Let's go. Iowa didn't complete a pass to a wide receiver last week.
That's very impressive. They have their backup quarterback in.
He's bad. But this Iowa-Wisconsin game is going to be especially like true sicko Big Ten.
I can't wait to watch it. I got a question for you about Iowa football.
They get great tight ends. They're tight in university.
They've generally got good offensive line play. Why don't they just have all their good tight ends? Because they've got the depth.
Why don't they just have their tight ends play wide receiver? Should they should also just punt on first down because their special teams is elite. Yeah.
That's really where they, like, their special teams is always elite. Yeah.
I like the idea of having an all-tight end offense. Yeah.
All-tight end offense. There also was a report, total viewing of college football across all networks is up 12% this year and up 28% over the last five years.
Wow. Is that the Dion effect effect i think that's maybe a little dion but it turns out maybe letting college football players market themselves and transfer and a little bit of parity in the in in the landscape maybe that actually isn't the work maybe that maybe the nil isn't the death of college football either that that or America's getting smarter and we're watching more football.

I really do think it's like players get to stay longer because now they can make money.

Players get to market themselves

so we know who these players are more than...

I think there's an NCAA rule

like freshmen can't talk to the media and all this stuff.

The fact that players can actually...

We can put a face to their name now

and they're out in front of it.

It might be good for the sport. Who would have thought? Who would have thought? So I just looked this up.
You're probably right about that. Yeah, definitely is part of it.
The divorce rate in America has gone up significantly since COVID. Okay.
That means that there's more dudes with Saturdays to spend with the boys. That's true.
Watching college football. Saturdays are for the boys.
They are. We all know that.
That's a fact. But yeah, college football is alive and thriving.

And everyone doing the hand-wringing a few years ago that it was dead and it was never

going to be the same.

Turns out you're watching more.

So all the people who said they were never going to watch, we know you're watching.

Yeah.

That's a fact.

Okay.

Should we get to Hot Seat Cool Throne and then our great interview with Ryan Fitzpatrick Hank has to go take a shit? P. P.
Are you sure? Yeah. Max, did you figure out what you wanted to say when you just bodied you? No, it's fine.
Okay. All right.
That's what I thought. Okay.
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Hot seat, cool throw, and Hank. Hot seat is California.
There you go. California.
Yes. Today there was a report that California will ban Skittles and other candies from the state starting in 2027.
What the fuck? Newsom signed a bill, also known as the California Food Safety Act. So that I wrote earlier, and then I went to double check to copy and paste the verbiage, and there was a community notes update that said this is not banning Skittles and other items listed.
It is forcing the manufacturers to change the formula to remove the harmful additives listed. This is fucking Bloomberg.
Yeah, it's like Four Loko. It's not fully banned, but they're basically just taking out the good stuff.
It's actually worse. So they're banning brominated vegetable oil.
That's my favorite thing in the world. Yep.
They can take that from my wet, slippery hands.

Potassium bromate, also a fan favorite.

Bromate?

Bromate.

Potassium bromate.

That's for the boys.

Yes.

Propyl paraben and red dye number three.

You can wear a propyl paraben?

Yeah, and red dye number three.

That's everything.

We should make t-shirts.

You can't take my propylparabane

over my... Yeah, you can

come and have it. Come and take it.

Try this in a small town.

Try this in California.

Take my propylparabane.

Yeah, it's like going to

Europe or something and the candies

and McDonald's. Although that food sucks in Europe.

Isn't that the whole thing?

Europe doesn't put all this shit in their food and that's why Europeans are in better health. Their candy sucks.
If anybody knows anything about French people, it's they've got terrible food. Yeah.
No, there's a lot of shit in our food. I think we don't realize.
Yeah. The red dye sucks bad, but like I'm not going to eat the bugs.
I just want to say that right now. Just ban the candy if that's the case.
This is a message for Gavin Newsom and your fucking little parties at French Laundry. I'm not eating the bugs.
Shout out Jack Mack. Shout out Jack Mack.
Jack Mack was the first one to tell me that they're going to try to get us to eat the bugs. We won't eat the bugs.
Have you ever eaten bugs? No, I won't. I've eaten crickets.
You see? You're part of the problem. I am.
I'm a big part of the problem. Listen, this podcast, as a statement, is cricket flour, and it was chocolate chip cookies.

We all need to stand right now and say we're not going to eat the bugs.

I'm not going to eat bugs.

I'm not going to eat them.

You eat the bugs?

No.

Jake, are you going to eat the bugs?

Never.

Max, will you eat the bugs?

I certainly will not.

Okay.

We're not going to eat the bugs.

I love that, that they're trying to get us to eat bugs.

It's my favorite deep state theory.

Okay.

Run out of food.

My other hot seat was Live Golf.

Uh-oh.

The official golf world ranking has chosen to just ignore Live Golf as a real sport or league.

Yeah.

So Live Golf players are not going to be able to qualify for majors and things like that.

It's tough when you have players winning majors. Not a problem for Brooks.
because he's he's already the peter u lines of the world who's not great he's on the four ace who else is on that team uh dustin johnson patrick reed pat peres okay yeah it's it's a problem for them when you have live golf players that are winning majors to then say that the tour that they play on doesn't produce players that are good enough to compete majors that like logically that doesn't make a lot of sense that's a fact that's a fact whatever happened with the merger uh it's coming yeah it's like it was the talk of the sports world they just did it and then they're like yeah it's coming don't worry we're totally gonna merge uh pft your hot seat cool throne uh my hot seat did you not have a cool throne it was sorry. I forgot.
That's good. That was good.
What's your debates? Aaron Rodgers and Travis Kelsey. Oh, okay.
Where do you side on that? I got the flu shot today. Oh, yeah? I've forgotten that.
Yeah, Hank and I did. That's good.
That's good. Max didn't get it.
No, I probably should have. Yeah.
It wouldn't solve anything.

No.

You had the flu for six months.

I feel pretty good this.

I just thought about that.

Maybe it's something in Chicago.

I haven't been coughing at all this week.

You might be allergic.

Maybe it could be something in that office.

It's definitely in that office.

Yeah, 100% in that office.

Once we get to the new office.

Allergic to malort, Max. Real dad joke, terrible joke that I love to do every time I get the flu shot.
Hank saw me say this. I was like, you guys think you nailed it this year? Because they have to guess the strain.
And the guy was like, yeah, I think we got a good one. Like, okay, cool.
I didn't know that that was the thing. I didn't know it was a guess.
Yeah, there's like a few and they have to like... What if you wait until later on in the season? Then can they update and they know the story? I don't know if they update it, but yeah, there's a chance that they...
I got a shot today that does absolutely nothing. All right.
Congrats. Let's do if I'm due.
There you go, Hank. I'm just kidding.
My hot seat is literally hand warmers. So I got a DM yesterday.
I have no idea how we did not know this on the podcast. This is from Coach Knight.
He DM'd me. Did you know? Bobby Knight? I don't know.
I don't know who it was. But did you know who invented the hand warmer? Hitler.
Mark Davis. Whoa.
The owner of the Las Vegas Raiders, invented the hand warmer.

No, he got rich because he was the son of Al Davis.

In a good old-fashioned way.

Yeah, exactly.

Hard work.

Mark Davis developed the muff in 19...

That's what they called it.

It was a muff initially.

In 1986.

That's not a bonk.

That's a bonk on you for thinking that muff.

Mark Davis and muff. So Mark Davis thinking that muff.
Mark Davis and muff.

So Mark Davis.

There was some Mark Davis and muff on TV last night.

Yes.

He invented it in 1986 for use by professional football teams.

And that year, Davis began to market them for the fans.

They cost about $30 when they first were introduced to the market.

And yeah, it was reported in the New York Times.

Mark Davis invented the hand warmer. That's insane insane i don't know about look it up you don't think skiers were using this before look it up hank you got a patent did you see mark davis playing slots at the airport waiting for his girlfriend to show up yep she looks awesome yeah uh she could like a like a fun hang fun hang or orionthi is that her name? Yeah, she's an Australian singer.
Oh, okay. Good for him.
Orion Thee? Good for Mark Davis. Mark Davis pulls.
Yeah, dude. And that's a king move to just be sitting there waiting.
Who doesn't want to get greeted at the airport? Yeah. While your boyfriend just leaves.
I thought they're only through security, the slots. He doesn't have to go.
No. He can walk wherever he wants.

No, there's some down in baggage claim, too, I think there.

Gotcha.

You have to hit the slots in Vegas on your way out.

Have to.

That's the best move because you never know.

That's your last chance.

It's facts.

Yeah, Mark Davis invented the hand warmer.

That's awesome.

It's better than Bobby Valentine.

What about Nietzsche Matoba?

I don't know much about Nietzsche.

1912.

Didn't take any philosophy questions. Well, was he American? Does that matter? Yeah.
I don't know. All right.
Well, if he wasn't American, then he didn't invent it. That's how American was.
He invented. And foot warmer was first patented by Jonathan T.
Ellis of New Jersey in 1891. That counts.
Mark Davis. Americans invented the world.
Hand warmer. If you look it up, it's in the New York Times.
I'm on Wikipedia for hand warmer. Mark Davis's name is nowhere to be found.
Oh, no, PFT. No, I'm literally looking right now.
You don't trust the New York Times. I'm looking at Twitter.
Do you trust X.com? Yes, 100%. X.com.
You know what? My favorite fun fact about Mark Davis is that in 1986, he invented the muff style hand warmer. It's the muff style hand warmer.
Wait, so it's not the New York Times. It's a Twitter account.
No, the New York Times is first. We're talking about two different kinds of hand warmers, Hank.
You're talking about the ones that you put in your pocket. I'm talking about the ones that quarterbacks wear.
Oh. Oh, the football ones got it mark davis invented that we need jack mack to make a tiktok and then it'll be fact okay it's it's a fact right now but we'll wait for confirmation i like it uh my cool throne is seinfeld oh jerry seinfeld is teasing a seinfeld reboot or at least an update to the last episode because i think he's upset with how it ended last episode i actually didn't mind it there's no good way to end that series i like how they brought everyone back when it was because yeah they brought everyone back and it's a show that ultimately didn't have that much of a plot to it and nothing really changed and then that's the only way that they can end it it would be impossible to do the last episode like imagine us doing the last episode we couldn't do it you couldn't pull't be good.
No one would like it. No.
Well it would just have to be like me and Big Cat saying all the stuff that would get us thrown off the airwaves. Thrown off the internet.
Only way people would like. Yeah and then you'd have to die.
And then people are like well. Yeah.
It would have to be fire. Gotta enjoy the last one because we're never getting another one.
The last episode would actually just be the sound of a fire in the studio. 76 million people watched the Seinfeld finale.

That's pretty good.

That's insane. So, of course.
30 million probably liked it. Yeah.
That's a lot. So, of course, they're going to try to reboot it and bring it back.
I don't know what else they could do with the plot lines in it. Well, you know what they should do is they should reboot it and it should be based on Larry David.
And he gets into awkward exchanges all the time. That's a good idea.
You know, George from Seinfeld is actually very close to Larry David.

Yeah.

We didn't know that.

Or Jerry.

You know that Larry David played George Steinbrenner?

No.

You didn't?

No.

He also played the man wearing the cape on the sidewalk that Mr. Costanza saw one time.
That was Larry David. Larry David had George Steinbrenner, and they were trying to get him to do the lines, and he couldn't do it well enough.
And they were just like, let's just have Larry David do it. And knocked it out of the park.
Yeah. Respectfully.
No disrespect. They should have Jerry dating Julia Louis-Dreyfus's daughter.
Oh. Picking her up from high school.
Yeah, Central Park. Yeah, that'd be good.
And, like, isn't Kramer... Yeah, no, he's...
Yeah, oh, yeah, so Kramer... You can't remake that show without Kramer.
Could you bring Kramer back? That's what I'm asking. You should get him on Wake Up Mincy.
Probably not bring him back. Yeah.
All right. Wait, was that your cool turn?

That was my cool turn.

Yeah, that was your cool turn.

I'll watch it.

Everyone will watch it.

Yeah, we'd all watch it.

Okay.

My hot seat is LeBron James.

So they did an executive's blind poll for the upcoming NBA season.

A bunch of questions.

Who did the best in the offseason?

Best defender?

All this stuff. They had a poll.
Which player would you want taking a shot with the game on the line? Number one was Steph Curry. Number two was Kevin Durant.
Number three was Damian Lillard. Number four was Jimmy Butler.
Number four tied was Jokic. Also receiving votes, Luka, Kyrie Irving.
LeBron James wasn't there. Interesting.
No playoff P either. Jason Tatum.
Playoff P says that he's going to be back on his bully shit this year. Oh, I have that reminder set for April.
Yeah, so we're going to check in to see if he's back on his bully shit. But yeah, LeBron getting left off that list, that seems personal.
Yeah, it does. He's's gonna have to use that he's gonna go to

zero dark 30 yep uh and then my cool throne is tight ends for the dallas cowboys so we predicted this obviously on sunday it right we shouldn't get credit for predicting this because it was just a fact that we were stating but jerry jones was going to go on radio and say something ridiculous and guess what Jerry Jones went on radio

and said something ridiculous on

105.3 the local dallas radio station i think we even predicted the radio station yeah right uh they asked him about getting cd lamb more involved and jerry jones said i don't know about that i like seeing the ball go to tight ends yeah oh your star wide receiver that is a mismatch uh nope let's go tight ends jerry love jason witten jerry's been searching for jason witten since he went back into robot form and elevated up into the booth uh he misses jason he misses just like a big strong guy that's not going to run away from anybody that'll get like 110 catches yeah And just park his ass down one yard past the first down line. Maybe he has one of my guys, Jake Ferguson.
Jake Ferguson's pretty good. Jerry Alvarez's grandson.
Yeah, I always forget that. I do not because it was mentioned every time Wisconsin played football.
But yeah, Jerry Jones, he wants to run the Iowa offense. Do it.
No wide receivers. Just tight ends.

All right, Jake, finish us off.

Hot seat, cool throne.

My hot seat is the future of certain NFL teams

because you reminded us to do a bleakest draft

for certain NFL teams on this episode.

For the future of certain NFL teams.

Okay.

I don't know if you guys wanted to do a rapid-fire one

or bookmark it for later. So I did a poll.
Let me try to find it. We could do a draft.
Everyone gets everyone gets speed draft. Two teams.
Two teams. Speed draft.
Jake, go. Panthers.
Okay. The New England Patriots.
I'll take the Denver Broncos. I get two? Yeah.
All rightots I'll take

The Denver Broncos

I get two

Alright I'll go Chicago Bears

What are the commanders Hank

Alright I'll do

The Giants

Hank's being a real dick today

He is

I'm actually going to go with the Green Bay Packers

Oh I like it

Just strictly based on what we saw on Monday night

Thank you. I'm actually going to go with the Green Bay Packers.
Oh, I like it. Just strictly based on what we saw on Monday night.
Okay, Jake. I'm going to go with the Las Vegas Raiders.
I should have taken the Raiders. All right, so put that on.
They beat the Packers. You guys just talked for an hour about how good they were.
They did, but future. Put that on a graphic and then have people vote who won the draft okay yeah i actually you know what the kansas city chiefs would be on there because eventually patrick holmes will retire well yeah future is open-ended right nothing's going to be as good nothing will be as good as patrick they could have a rogers to far farce no one's going to be as good as Patrick Mahomes, so it's like it kind of sucks to be a Chiefs fan

because you know eventually

he will retire. No, you're still living in the

moment right now. We could

spin anything on this show.

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You can see him on Thursday Night Football, pre and post game, Amazon Prime and at halftime. It is Ryan Fitzpatrick, Thursday Night Football.
You also get to see it this year on Black Friday, Jets-Dolphins.

So it's going to be great. Fitz, we wanted to start – actually, I wanted to start with something.

You are everywhere. You are literally everywhere.
You're in a million commercials.

Is there a part of you that's like, hey, why wasn't this happening when I was still playing?

Because I feel like your star has gotten bigger, and I wanted more respect you as a player uh no I think I think the timing's just right because people didn't want me to be advertising pizza and betting and then have a horrible game like why did we pick this guy so I think it's a little bit easier now that I can't really screw up that bad. I just get to talk about stuff.
And then after it happens, just like we talked about last time I was with you guys, you just deny that you ever said it or you move on and you make another outrageous take and you just hope that it happens. Like me picking the Bears, by the way, against the Commanders, I felt pretty good about on Thursdayursday night sorry bft yeah it's kind of

messed up i took that personal but i would have done the same thing uh i actually did pick the bears to beat the commanders tried to reverse jinx myself didn't work uh so you mentioned you know if you were still playing that you wouldn't want to be all over tv gotta ask right off the bat have the new york jets given you a call this year No, I am done.

And I've always thought about um you know if i were to return roger goodell's face me say throwing a touchdown for the jets and then my draft kings promo coming up um you know with all the issues we've had with the nfl and gambling i think that would be interesting to see what he would do about that. Right.
So you don't, you don't want to come back, but, but has anybody tried to get you back? No, I, uh, I'm not going to pull the RG three, you know, there was a mysterious, uh, no, I, I am officially done. Uh, haven't fielded any phone calls in the last year and a half, two years.
So, so you, you've been doing this now for, uh, over a year. a year uh we i think we gave you some media training when you first started you had your first moment i think where a player was like hey why'd you say that about me with our friend jared goff our personal friend who we love uh do you regret calling him a poor man's matt ryan because he did to Jared.
He got you right away. He was just like,

I'm a poor man's what do you know how much money that guy's made?

He's not poor.

Yeah,

no,

he's not poor.

It was a,

it was a good moment,

you know,

and good for Jared to do that.

I knew you were going to ask me this.

I'm going to like paraphrase what I said.

Okay.

I just wrote it down.

Okay.

I was talking to Tony. I said, he reminds me a lot of your former QB.
Maybe a poor man's Matt Ryan. And then Sherm gives the sheesh.
And I said, look, it's not a slight on him. Matt's a great quarterback.
Or yeah, Matt's a great quarterback. I said, Jared's great at the play action.
He's great when you give him time. Get after him a little bit.
Speed up his clock. My last thing that I said, he's playing great right now.
He's a guy that's resilient, and I root for a guy like that. So then the PR team for Detroit says, hey, Jared, Fitz called you a poor man.
And he just kind of got after me, and good for him. I love that he did.
But this whole thing got twisted because I'm actually a fan of Jared Goff. I just didn't want to disrespect Matt Ryan.
It doesn't sound like you're a fan of him. We're fans of him.
We would die for him. There were a lot of qualifiers used there, like when he's got time.
Or right now. Right now on play action.
I mean, who's a better quarterback? I mean, Matt Ryan had a longer career. Let's say eight years matt ryan's career you take it matt ryan or jared goff no question great guy that was great friend it's pretty it's pretty easy for us because if we're friends with someone we will just say that they're we will never the the key to doing it if you become really good friends with someone and they have a bad game or a bad couple of games, you just pretend those games didn't exist and you never address the problem.
And then you have people call you a coward and then you say, well, when he plays well, I will talk about how great he is. Who would you take as your quarterback, Blake Bortles in his prime or Jared Goff? I would shoot myself in the head before I made that decision.
I couldn't do that to either one of them. Yeah.
Yeah.

Smart.

Yeah.

All right. So let's talk about the league right now in this season.

I feel like we're starting to get to that point in the season where we're starting to figure out who the great teams are and everything's starting to level out.

Right now, I made this statement.

I want to hear what you have to say.

Will you give me your top four teams in the NFC? I'm glad you started with that because the AFC is just a shit show right now. Yes.
We can't figure that one out. San Fran.
Okay. Obviously.
Yeah. Philadelphia.
Yeah. Two undefeated teams.
My boy, Jared Goff and his Lions. Good answer.
I'm going to throw them up there because I love the way he plays. I think he's a great leader, great quarterback.
Right now. Right.
In play action. Let's see.
This is tough. You guys are going to have to help me.
This is tough. The fourth best team in the NFC.
Yeah. I mean, the Bears are on a one-game winning streak.
That's true. Fact.
They've won the most games you could possibly win possibly win in week five yeah let me let me look at just let me make sure i don't screw this up can you guys fill some time here well i'll tell you why i asked you the four teams because this is where the cliff goes it's it really is those three teams feel like they're ahead of everyone else and finding that four team is going to be a very interesting question you want to say dallas I would say, I'm going to say Seattle. Okay.
Okay. I'm going to say Seattle.
Yeah.

I think it was it's between Seattle Dallas and I actually think the Bucs weirdly like I know I do a thing where if there's a bye week I just forget that they exist like I don't even know you know like you just forget hey they're actually playing football but the Bucs but I mean your former you believe in the box and what Baker's doing because we're rooting for Baker especially the redemption arc it feels like the Bucs have a little bit more to them than just one of those like middle of the pack teams they could they could make some noise yeah and I would say to my former coach from a different franchise Todd Bowles I just think he's so aggressive. He's got that defense playing so well.
And then you look at the NFC South, you know, who's going to make it out of there. They are going to start beating each other up a little bit, but I like Tampa, man.
I do. And I root for Baker.
Poor man's, hmm, who could he be? Baker, maybe. No, I think, you know what, like Baker's great because we had him last year on Thursday night.
That was when he was in L.A. for 36, 48 hours, stepped off the plane, didn't have the greatest game, but what do you expect? And then all of a sudden he gets the ball at the end and then drive it down and beat Vegas on the last second touchdown so I have a question real quick about Baker specifically because you and Baker maybe not the same quarterback but I think you have one of the same qualities and you can tell me how important this is for a locker room Baker's a tough motherfucker like you can tell that he's a tough guy and teammates respect that is that when it comes to quarterback play how how high on the list does that matter for your team in the locker room?

Obviously, playing great quarterback is number one,

but that toughness and everyone looking to you being like,

hey, the quarterback position gets reffed totally differently.

Sometimes it's a little soft, but having a tough guy there,

how much does that play into the team building around him? I would say when you bounce around a lot, when you go from team to team, that's something that wins you instant respect. And so for a guy like Baker that the last few years has bounced around locker rooms for him to show up and for them to see that and for them to see the fight in him every week like that, that a locker room.
That's why whether he stays in Tampa or not, as he continues to maybe bounce around, he's going to have the respect of his teammates everywhere he goes. Yeah, week one I saw against the Vikings, he put his head down on a couple runs that he didn't have to finish.
He could have gone out of bounds. He could have slid, and he was initiating contact, kind of like you used to do when you see the smallest defensive back on the team and you're like yeah i'm about to get my highlight reel clip right now i'm gonna run at that guy he weighs 170 pounds uh baker was initiating contact and his teammates were just loving it they were loving everything he was doing at that point i was like i think i think baker's the leader of this team it's been cool to see him come back a little bit because you know people wrote him off for a while.
Cleveland wrote him off, certainly. Here's another little media tip for you, though, Ryan.
What we can do is we can do Ryan Fitzpatrick's top four quarterbacks, and you're going to leave off a really good quarterback in your top four quarterbacks, and then people are going to get very mad at you for disrespecting their guy. So top four quarterbacks this year.
All right. I'm just going to look at all the teams so I don't – I mean, Patrick Mahomes.
Okay. Safe.
Yeah, good pick. Josh Allen.
Okay. Uh-huh.
Well, Patrick Mahomes got out-dueled by Zach Wilson. I've got two more.
Uh-huh. I'm going to go with – oh, people are going to be furious.
Tua and Brock Purdy. No Jalen Hurst.
Oh, Lamar. I like your Brock Purdy take because we've been saying for the last couple weeks, it's time to say that Brock Purdy is just really good at football.
It's time. The system helps, but he's really good.
But we've all been waiting for the, yeah, but he's going to have a bad game here. He's going to fall off a cliff.
It hasn't happened. He's an absolute machine.
And when you're watching brock purdy can you explain to us because it's crazy to me that there still is this disconnect that people are like oh well the niners are so goddamn good anyone yeah probably you could drop a lot of quarterbacks in there and have success but brock purdy fits perfectly with that team and he's playing such great football right now why can't people just accept that yeah i i don't know i mean it is like look at just look at i mean trey lance struggled in that system right he got a chance they they didn't love jimmy jimmy played well in that system but when you watch rock pretty play how many throws does he miss not many and the other thing is the processing ability of him read one read two read three every time he makes a decision to scramble outside the pocket, like the guy is almost perfect in the way that he thinks about the game and his mind just computes what's happening. So it's an amazing thing.
Yes, it's easy to play quarterback when you can throw a screen pass and it goes for 50 yards or you can hand the ball up and you're getting 10 yards a run. But this guy, he the ball down the field it's not check down fest like we see with some of these other quarterbacks get to 70 68 completion this dude's throwing the ball down the field and he's so accurate with the football it's perfect for what shanahan needs in that offense yeah i think the processing is the part that people can't comprehend because we want to see the big throws.
We want to see the crazy wild plays, but like the, the ability to think the game is, it doesn't always show up on the film. And he, I, he's just playing so well.
I don't understand why people can't give him that credit. This is also what I keep saying about the kid.
Like think about last year, he was the fourth string quarterback behind Nate Sudfeld. Do you know how many reps the fourth string quarterback gets? None.
The third string, not many. So like he was battling.
We had him in their last preseason game where it was like, gosh, is he going to make the team or not? They just gave Nate Sudfeld $2 million. And they essentially liked him enough that they're like, you know what, we'll keep him on the team as a three.

But he didn't get any reps last year.

And then he came in and won all those games and won those playoff games.

It's unbelievable what he's doing.

We have to point to maybe Iowa State and his career there

and all the games that he played.

But him up here, he's on a different level

than most other quarterbacks in the league.

We should talk also about the UCL surgery he had. He came back better after that.
It's kind of great. It's like rookie of the year.
I agree. I mean, if you get stuck like this, now I will say he doesn't have the strongest arm.
And that's another thing that you point to his maturity. One of the biggest things about quarterback play is like knowing your strengths and weaknesses.
And that was probably one of my biggest issues over my career. I didn't have any weaknesses in my mind.
So, you know, that's – but Brock knows his weaknesses. He knows his strengths.
He knows what he's good at. And he knows that he can't throw the ball 70 yards.
So he's not trying to make some of those plays that you'll see Josh or Herbert or some of those strong-arm guys make. Yeah.
So you you brought up not knowing your own weaknesses. You were a little bit of a gunslinger brings me to my next question.
We had this debate on Sunday. CJ Stroud's been phenomenal.
Hasn't thrown an interception, broke the record five games, rookie, no interceptions. But at one point, does he need to throw an interception so that people like us aren't being like, he doesn't take the risks.
Is there such thing as a good interception so that people can't be like, well, he's, he's clearly not taking any risks. Like I was saying, I want him to throw an old fashioned, like Cutler interception, triple coverage, try to throw it 3000 miles an hour and have it be picked.
Well, even, even in the bills, uh, Jaguars game. And Josh has done this a couple of times this year.
It's third and 15. Yeah.
15. Yeah, right.
And he makes the throw to Diggs all the way down to the five-yard line. It turns into a punt, basically, but it gets picked off.
That's the kind of stuff. Those are okay.
You don't need to fear throwing an interception like that. But I'll tell you what, he's not just check down fast either.
He puts the ball down the field. And when you talk about guys that just look pretty when they're throwing the football, the way that that thing comes out of his hand, effortless, like Stroud, Stroud is unbelievable.
Just like total combine quarterback. When you look at him, everything is perfect.
And I, you know, I was surprised. I know we can second guess now and we'll see what happens 10 years down the road but I was surprised he wasn't the first day yeah well Bryce Young ordered scallops and a salad and that very much impressed Tepper the owner of the Panthers I see that yeah that's why he went with Bryce Young um let's get to the AFC and we'll do your teams in the AFC before we do one more question though about my commanders uh you are a Washington football team legend you were a football team for about a quarter of a game 15 plays 15 plays you've got a deep your roots run deep with that franchise uh sam howell has impressed me as being a tough motherfucker too and he's making some good throws uh do you think that sam howell has the opportunity to develop into a good enough quarterback to make the commanders not want to go out and get one in the draft next year? There's no doubt.
And I think, I think he's already there. Obviously he has to continue to play consistently, but what they're putting on his plate already at such a young age, I mean, what was the stat? They threw 50 plus consecutive passes in that game.
He, he's tough. He's won over his teammates.
He's not afraid to put the ball down the field. He has all of these different elements in a quarterback that you love.
Plus, he's accurate. I mean, if you look at his stats, like completion percentage and what they're asking him to do, spreading the ball around that offense, I really like how his aggressiveness and the enemy's aggressiveness kind of marry each other.
I think that's going to be a good relationship the next few years, but I'm in on Sam Howell. And part of it, like you said, is the toughness factor, but part of it too, he stays like this all the time.
When I was talking to guys before the game, that was what they kept saying. Like you can't like it's almost like he doesn't have a heartbeat which is a really important thing as a quarterback just to always stay level but I'm all in on Sam Howell I like watching him play love it as we progress through the season every fan knows that big wins are hard to come by and tough losses are even harder to accept but you know what isn't hard to accept Believe it or not, Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide.
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Let's talk about the AFC. The Chiefs, they do enough just so that people can poke holes in them, but they're the Chiefs.
They're fucking incredible. They'll be there at the end.
The Dolphins, your former team, they're playing incredible. You can see them on Black Friday with Amazon Prime.
How do you feel about an offense that is this explosive going into later in the season? Is there a point where you get concerned like, hey, not every game is going to be able to just have guys running wild. Teams are going to start adjusting.
How does that play out when you see the season going forward? It's just a weird, you know, some of these ASC teams, it's about matchups and division rivalries, and we thought we had it all figured out once they scored 70. Miami was the best team in football, and they go play Buffalo and lose 48-20, and it just – it's a head-scratcher.
That being said, I mean, a big part of Miami's success later in the year in the playoffs if they want to go to go deep, it's going to be having home field advantage. That's going to be a big part for them because it is different.
Uh, once you get into that cold weather, you know, those hits hurt a little bit more, it's a little less of a finesse game and a little more of an old school, uh, you know, rough and tough type game. So they're, they're going to continue to blow out inferior opponents.
And then those, you know, when they play the Bills again, that'll be a big game. But they've just got to make sure that they can maintain home field advantage because that's going to be their ticket probably to the Super Bowl.
Yeah. And you're rooting for the Bills again this year, or was that a one-time thing where you're taking your shirt off in the playoff games? Nipples are very, very hard.
Yeah, they felt great. They felt great.
I'm definitely a Bills fan. I mean, it's funny.
People ask me that all the time. My team is Buffalo for sure.
I also root for individual players. You know, there's plenty of guys that I root for, but Buffalo is definitely my team.
What about the Ravenss their game against the Steelers classic Ravens Steelers game but talk to me about how Lamar plays a game good enough to win and his wide receivers kind of let him down what does that look like in the locker room in the meetings room that week where it's like the receivers know that if they had made a couple catches, that game is like a three-score game going into the fourth quarter, and there's no chance for the Steelers' defense to be able to get them back in the game. It was disappointing to see some of those drops, but it really is, it's like the cliche, like the week-to-week.
It really is such a week-to-week proposition. I mean, if you look at the Steelers two weeks ago, it was like, okay, they're done.
Officially they're done. They didn't get after CJ Stroud.
They lost to Houston. Then they come back and win that game.
What I've said all along about the Ravens is they're going to be really difficult in the post season. And the reason why is they're just going to continue to get better on offense.
Hopefully something like this, you learn from it and it catapults you and makes you better. But they're a good enough team to where they still have to figure things out with Todd Munkin.
Lamar's still figuring things out in his system. Todd's still figuring out Lamar as a quarterback.
But they're good enough to where they're going to get to the playoffs. Their defense is good enough.
Their run game is good enough. So as they continue to improve throughout the season, they're going to be a really dangerous team at the end of the year.
Yeah. I agree.
The Ravens always seem like they get better, especially when they get physical and they can just push you around. Once the weather turns a little bit cold.
What about Denver? Can you talk to me about Russell Wilson? Cause our take on Russell Wilson, here's, here's our analysis. He stinks.
Stinks. He sucks.
He's ass. He fumbles very funny, though.
Yeah. I love his fumbles.
Like when his tiny little legs start to run really fast, but he's not actually moving that fast. Yeah.
And they catch up behind and he drops the ball. That's funny for us.
But from an actual analyst perspective, what has been wrong with Russell Wilson and is it fixable? Well, this is, it's funny because if you, if you look statistically this year, he's got the touchdowns. He only has two interceptions.
Statistically, his QB rating's over a hundred, but then you take a deeper dive. You look at his relationship with Sean Payton and how already you're getting the eye rolls and all that, but this is two years in a row now.
An offensive-minded coach has been brought in for Russ, and it just hasn't really gone well. So I've got a guy that sits to my left on Thursday Night Football and Richard Sherman that has a lot of opinions on Russell Wilson.
I'm sure you're going to hear some of them on Thursday night. But, you know, Russell's first, what was it, 10 years of his career in Seattle,

it's hard to take away from the wins and the things that he accomplished.

But somebody asked me this the other day, and I think it's true.

If that was a Hall of Fame career, those first 10 years and winning the Super Bowl and all those wins,

it does feel like he's playing himself out of consideration the last few years. Yeah.
Yeah, it's not been good. This is a dumb question because we obviously consume the game as fans.
And you said earlier it's week-to-week league. How do you actually do a week-to-week league in the fact that, like, if a team loses two games, I basically am like, that team sucks forever.
And if a team wins one game, they're back, they're incredible. How do you guys actually compartmentalize and do week-to-week league? And were there times in your career or times when you're covering these teams and talking to these guys where you can sense they're still hurting from the last week or they're riding high and they're probably not, they shouldn be riding that high i think the commanders are a very good example of that to where you don't know what team is going to show up right because they're the team that can beat philly last year or take them to overtime this year and they're the team that can look like they don't belong on the field with the bears yeah and it really is so is.
So there are certain teams that are week-to-week teams. Which one am I getting? And that's the impressive thing that I found about Detroit this year is they flipped that switch about midway through last year to where even the first game of the year on Thursday versus Kansas City, they didn't play their A game and they beat Kansas City.
So Detroit has now flipped this switch to, we need to go out there and play well,

but if we don't play well, we can still beat these teams. And some of it is the way they're

built. San Francisco, Philly, Detroit, good offensive lines, being able to run the ball.

But yeah, the Arizona Cardinals are a prime example of the team where you're afraid of

to play every week. You just don't know who's going to show up.
They're sitting that

Thank you. But, yeah, the Arizona Cardinals are a prime example of the team where you're afraid of to play every week.
You just don't know who's going to show up. They're sitting at one and four, but they've kind of been in every game.
So I guess those are good examples of the week-to-weekly. Are you a tush-push guy? I like a good tush-push.
Okay, good. Who doesn't? Well, I hate the people complaining.
I hope you're that it's like it's a football play that is unstoppable right now but that's what football is find a way to beat it i have this argument all the time with sherm and sherm doesn't love the tush push but he's a defensive guy how do you stop the tush push okay if the tush push is going to work 95 of the time then they're getting the first down so if it's third and one they're going to do the tush push is going to work 95% of the time, then they're getting the first down. So if it's third and one, they're going to do the tush push.
Why are you not taking your biggest defender and having them try to time out the snap count and just blow up the center and the quarterback? yeah worst case scenario that's a five yard penalty they get the first down but then next time they're like oh my god this is going to happen again and jason kelsey's going to be like

look we got to stop calling this play. I don't want to get my ass blown up every time we get in this formation.
There are certain ways that you can probably stop it if you're willing to just give up the first down. That's right.
That's a great idea. That's the best idea that I've heard.
Yeah. You send a message.
If you get it right, then you can stop the play legally. If you mistime it, then Kelsey, it's like the same thing when we talk about hitting the quarterback, making them uncomfortable in the pocket, make Jason Kelsey uncomfortable in the pocket.
Yeah. And you guys have seen Troy Palomaro back in the day.
Anytime he thought it was a quarterback sneak, he was jumping over the pile and trying to time it out. Whether he was right or not, the quarterback was going to get hit.
So to me, that would be my solution if I was a defensive career. I could put 12 guys on the field on defense and hope they don't see it.
And then if they see it, too many men, first down anyways. But maybe you get away with it.
Yeah. I like it.
We're smart. Yeah, we are smart.
We're football smart um i got a a non nfl question uh you went to harvard people don't know that but you did wait what uh yeah no he went to harvard the school uh yeah yeah i attended harvard do you do you ever wish you went somewhere else when you watch these big football games when you watch like red river shootout and rivalry and you watch you know these big sec games or big 10 games, and was there times in the locker room where guys were making silly bets or talking shit to each other? You're like, damn, I'm a nerd. I went to Harvard.
No one wants to talk to me. Well, I mean, you're not allowed to bet in the locker room, as you know.
Well, fun bets. So there's never any betting going on.
Fun bets. Fun bets.
You know, you wear the jersey. I wear the jersey.
I will, I will say that. So, no, I never I got my fill in the NFL.
I never really thought too much about that. But I will say now nobody really cares about Ivy League football.
But there are a bunch of guys in the Ivy League, Harvard in particular, they will play their four years. Usually you don't play as a freshman at Harvard, but they'll play their four years.
They'll graduate from Harvard and then they'll enter the transfer portal and they'll go play big time football for one year. Whether we've had guys at LSU, I don't know all the universities off the top of my head, but seven or eight guys every year now are graduating and going to get their fix of one year big time football, whether it's offensive line or playing special teams or actually contributing, which is a pretty cool deal.
Yeah. So you, would you have done that if you had that opportunity? Yeah.
Cause I, you know, I wouldn't, I, I definitely, if that was, if that was available to me, I definitely would have done that because people said maybe I was going to get drafted, but I didn't know that I was actually going to get drafted so to be able to go to a big time school and play for a year i think that would have been awesome okay so what school so we can we can be like headline honorary patrick would have gone here yeah yeah um let's see i mean coming out like if i had to pick like it would have had academic ties to it. So Northwestern, Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke.
Yeah. It's not too exciting.
That's not fun. I don't want to tell you.
Yeah. You would have went nerd to nerd.
What if you got to Arizona State and you just go buck wild? That would have been cool. If Arizona State would have offered me coming out of high school, I would have gone there, which is like, thank God they didn't offer me.
But that was, was i grew up like yeah grew up both my parents went to arizona state i grew up in the jake plumber years i was all in yeah um but they picked chad christensen another in-state kid over me you're the smartest person ever to go to school yeah you could have you could have graduated from harvard and then gone to arizona state played football and been like the dean of the whole school well al michaels. So, I mean, he's the smartest man to ever come out of Arizona State.
That's a fact. He doesn't eat a vegetable.
Have you seen him eat a vegetable? I have. I've tried.
I've tried to sneak it on his plate. I learned early, though, not to mess with the vegetable thing.
It is a fact. He will not.
He's eating steak. That's it.
It's incredible. Al Michaels is essentially like, I mean, my kids don't like to to eat vegetables he basically is like a four-year-old in a grown-up body where he's like yeah i decided a long time ago i don't eat vegetables and guess what you can't tell me different i can go to bed whenever i want i can eat ice cream whenever i want you can't hold this my kids now say well al michaels doesn't eat vegetables it's like what do i say to that yeah he's got a point it's about parsley what if you sprinkle a little parsley on a steak does you do that no no chance if it's green it's he'll send it back i love it i mean what a what a dude's dude that's that's like that is everyone's dream but can i go my whole life without eating a vegetable that's that's ice cream for dinner and no vegetables that's the life i gotta do some serious journalism here ryan um there there was a viral moment a couple years ago you were doing an interview and somebody asked you about a water slide and you didn't seem very happy with the question about the water slide so i'm gonna ask you the same question again and maybe we could just have a conversation about water slides i like big cat do you like water slides love them i love water except for the time i hurt my hip on one yeah i heard yeah that's the danger is like it's not it's actually the liability of the water part if you hurt your head right it doesn't fall on you like your employer can't get mad at you if you hurt your but i still i didn't tell barstool because i was nervous that they were going to be like well you can't podcast anymore because you got hurt on a water slide yeah Yeah.
That's a smart idea, I think. But Ryan, has anything like that ever happened to you in the past? Yes.
So I guess I'll have to explain myself. So this was like, I was doing the 10 interviews in a day and this is interview number eight and it's Dan, Lee Batard, Levitard and Stu Gatz.
They asked me the question. I mean, I ended my career hurting my hip.
So like, is it funny? I don't really joke about it, but I wasn't necessarily in the mood that day. With you guys, now I'm in the mood.
Wonderful. I actually had it.
So Mike Golick pulled me into an interview and Stu Gatz was with him. And I was like, Mike, this is just showing you how much I like you because he's here.
Stu Gotts and I worked it out. And the line that I gave to him was, it's all water under the slide.
So we're good now. But just to what you guys are referring to, somebody called in from a radio station and said they saw me with like 10 of my kids at a water slide two weeks before the season started okay i i don't know what to tell you it's like it's like it's like richard gear in the gerbil like i don't i mean i don't it lives on marilyn manson and the ribs yeah yeah i think what the story was it was a um it was a radio caller on i think 1067 the fan in dc and they called in saying that they were a lifeguard at lake fairfax water park and they saw you there and there was no fact checking done on it whatsoever and then it just kind of you know how sports radio show listeners are there's if you don't let me ask you though because now that i'm thinking about it the voice sounded like your voice a little Is there any? I would have never.
I loved you, Ryan. I wanted to get a full season of Fitzmagic in D.C.
That was the only thing I was excited about that year. But, yeah, it was.
Well, to steal a word from Al Michaels in his famous O.J. days, it's completely farcical.
It's farcical. Yes.

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I saw you talked about this a couple weeks ago about Zach Wilson. And maybe I can do it for all the young quarterbacks in the NFL right now.
You know, you can throw in Justin Fields. Jordan Love has been struggling recently.
How hard is it to actually tune out everything that's being said?

And how much does it affect you if you're playing a quarterback position in a big market where people are talking about you and you're like, you can't escape it?

Yeah, it's really difficult.

And the flip side of that, I was in New York for two years, 2015. We had a great season.
We ended up going 10 and six, unexpected. To be the starting quarterback of a New York football team when things are good is amazing.
Your courtside at Madison Square Garden, everybody's patting you on the back. There's a certain energy in the city.
And then 2016, I had a horrible year and just got to experience, bad it is in a big city like that. You can't escape it.
And what you need, A, family to be able to lean on that. And Zach and I are two very different people in terms of that because I have a lot of kids and I don't think he has any.
But that quarterback room becomes that much more important. The backup quarterbacks, I don't know how much Aaron is in and out of the building, Nathaniel Hackett, the quarterback coach, that's like your little safe place where you're insulated from all that noise and you just get to focus and do your best and try to play your best game the next week.
But it's very difficult, especially now with the younger kids, I'm sure the social media part of it and how big that is in their lives. They're seeing everything.
I promise they're seeing everything. But that's why it's something like the Rodney Harrison thing where he just went after or was going after Zach Wilson talking to Chris Jones.
I think people really flipped a little bit. Now people want to see Zach succeed because it has been so negative towards him.
And you're kind of happy that he's playing a little bit better now. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I definitely sometimes feel bad. Cause we add to it, but we also react.
I mean, this is, you know, it's an entertainment leak, but, but you know, Justin Fields is another another great example they lost 14 games in a row right but you just you saw the last two weeks there's still like energy and excitement in that locker room and you ask like how could he possibly be showing that excitement and energy on the field it's because like those guys do believe i went through this a bunch of my career uh my first year with the dolphins 2019, we lost our first seven games or whatever it was. We were tanking for two.
You know, the first couple of games we lost by like a hundred points, but you start to bond and it's us against the world. That mentality really does come into your mind.
And I think the bears are a little bit like that right now because everybody hates Eber flues. Justin Fields, isn't the guy He is the guy.
And they're kind of bonding over that negativity and saying, look, nobody believes in us, but the guys in this locker room, let's go get it. It's a great point that we forget because in all the other sports, it has become commonplace.
The tank, you can't tank in the NFL. It's impossible to tank because everyone's playing for a job.
So even when a team looks, they're still going to go out and yeah, some weeks are going to look worse than others, but you can't tank on a full season. Yeah, I completely agree.
It's a lot more difficult to try to do that in our sport than it is others, say basketball or whatever it is, but yeah, I think the Bears are a prime example of that and Carolina, you know, Carolina is going to be the few football teams this year too. They just, they've got a tough defense and they'll have a game or two where they figure it out.
Do you ever feel bad for, for me personally, that when you were on the dolphins, you didn't get that two point conversion. Cause if you'd gotten that two point conversion, then the, the Washington football team would have drafted Joe Burrow and I would be super happy and I would be a winner and I would just be cool.
Do you ever think about that play? Like you really fucked me on that one, Ryan. Yeah, I didn't love the play call.
I'm not going to lie. When it came in, that two-point play, I didn't love the play call.
So I don't know. You can blame me.
You can blame others. It's all good.
My life would be so good. Yeah, your life would be a lot better.
But you know what what though? I was getting grief from Miami fans too now about, cause we played Cincy that year and we ended up beating Cincy in overtime. Yeah.
And so there was a lot of grief that way too. And now I think they're pretty happy about Tua.
Yeah. You're really the sliding doors moment for the entire, for the careers of Tua and Joe Burrow.
Like they're directly tied to you, Ryan. Yeah.
Well, what about Sam Howell? We could throw him in there too, right? Because there would be no Sam Howell if there was a Joe. That's very true.
That's a great point. Maybe no Josh Harris.
I think we just made it. If we got Joe Burrow, then Dan Snyder would probably have sold.
Thank you, Ryan. Yeah, so we just made your case for the Hall of Fame.
You cannot tell the story of football without Ryan Fitzpatrick. Thank you, guys.
Yeah, I think you had to make a Pro Bowl in order to be eligible, though. No, those are fake now.
You actually also could just lie and say you did as an alternate. Yeah, yeah, you made a Pro Bowl.
You made a couple Pro Bowls. You just didn't.
You declined. Sure.
It's like the work that, you know, did any teams call you? Yeah. I'm fielding calls.
Do you want to do Super Bowl predictions? Who's in the game? Ooh. Ooh.
Yeah, I mean, I've learned in this media thing, people are going to get mad at you and hate you no matter what you say. But I think, you know, this is not a hot take.
I think San Francisco is the best team in the NFC. So let's go San Francisco, Miami.

Okay.

That would be a fun Super Bowl.

It would be a very good uniform game.

Student versus pupil.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Or teacher versus pupil.

That would be great.

Philly is going to get mad at you for saying that.

Just so we're clear.

And you also bashed Jared Goff so many times

that it's like you want him out of the league.

And you left Jalen Hurts off your top four quarterbacks list. These are all things that happened.
Yeah, get excited for the headlines tomorrow, Ryan. This will be fun.
Can't wait. So are you guys in Chicago now? We are.
We moved, and then we're in New York for this week because we're taping something else. But, yes, when you come for the Panthers-Bears, you need to come to the office the new office will be open full basketball court we're gonna we'll do some we'll come up with some uh maybe some throwing drills that you can get us through yeah your guy sam schwarzstein's coming by that week too yeah oh sam what a stud yeah well al's coming through yeah hopefully he's gonna come through we're gonna maybe uh we'll figure out a way to to cook something that looks like a steak that's just like a big

carrot or something.

Get him a Boca burger.

If we get Al Michael C's first vegetable,

break the internet. It's like when Kim Kardashian

took that ass picture.

Same thing.

Alright, well thank you

Ryan. Appreciate it man.
We'll see you soon.

Alright, later dudes.

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Thank you. Ryan.
Appreciate it, man. We'll see you soon.
All right. Later, dudes.
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Hank. Sup, Jimbo PMT, especially Hank in the late house.
I've been applying for multiple jobs in the film industry and haven't had much much luck the other night I was a tad drunk when I received yet another letter saying they were not moving forward with me in the hiring process in my drunken state I found the hiring manager on Twitter and sent him a screenshot of my application denial with the caption bad decision you guys are sleeping on me I got an email the next morning saying how unprofessional that was and how the company might flag future job apps from me. I like it.
I like the fire. I feel like the film industry is not super, super corporate.
Yeah, didn't you? It definitely is. They're all the film industry? I don't know what company he was applying for on this, but I like the belief in yourself an indie.
I like the belief in yourself, though. Yeah, you know, you don't have to do this all the time.
This is like the big hammer that you bring out once in a while when you're feeling very disrespected. It's good motivation for yourself.
And guess what? You just burned the boat. Now, you know, you can't go there anymore.
It makes you work harder for the other opening. Next time in a few years when they come to you for a job, you send them back that screenshot.
be like, fire this person. Well, you actually should do – what you should do is screenshot the email saying that was in poor taste and send it to the guy who sent that email and be like, kind of a pussy move.
You mad? Yeah, just keep going. You're triggered.
Or screenshot the email. I love that move.
And then what did the guy say back to him? Very unprofessional. You send that exact wording back to him from his email.
He should be above that. Yeah.
Now, you shouldn't do this all the time. But in certain circumstances.
I think you should do it all the time. It's like Michael Jordan getting cut from his freshman year basketball team.
Eventually, you're going to find someone who likes that dog in you. Wait.
Michael Jordan got cut from his varsity team as a freshman. He still played high school basketball.
We forget that. I accidentally stepped on and ripped the bride's dress on my uncle's wedding this weekend, ripped the bottom portion off completely.
Luckily, the ceremony ended, but she was rocking a skirt for the rest of the night. It's hot.
Yeah, that punk. Ceremony had ended

Yeah

You probably did her a favor

She wanted to dance

Don't

Most brides have like a back

Like they have a dress alteration

That they go out in the dance floor with

Some do

Some do a change

Yeah

You're actually

You should send her a bill

For being her tailor

Also

What's the word

Seamstress

Oh there's something special for

Wedding dresses aren't there

Thank you. a bill for being her tailor also just what's the what's the word seamstress oh there's something special for wedding dresses aren't there a wedding dress person i don't know i think it's a seamstress person also uh if you ripped it off she was probably able to dance better and it's not like she's going to wear it again yeah and it was hot yeah and it was hot and the fuck is a way and she probably felt hot with a skirt and for lopez uh my friend dare me to try and kick a stray traffic cone on the sidewalk i took a 50 foot running head start and tried to kick the traffic cone like i would a 70 yard field goal fortunately the cone wasn't just put there randomly it was covering a concrete pole i ended up kicking a hidden concrete pole as hard as I could, which sent me flying through the air and landing on my back.
It was all last that night until the next morning when I couldn't walk. I completely broke my foot.
Don't try to be Justin Tucker when the football is actually just full of concrete. Yeah, people forget that cones are put there warning you against something.
Yeah, there's nothing worse than having the drunk injury where you're like, I think I'm fine. And then waking up and realizing you're not fine when you get back to the real world the next day.
Oh, the worst. Because you do have that moment if you're very drunk and you get hurt.
Nah, this is totally fine. You do.
You kind of like walk around a little extra. I sit out.
Yeah, I can. I can close my fist.
I'm good. I don't have a broken wrist.
That's what happened to me when I broke my foot walking in new york i went i walked it off and went home and i was like oh it'll feel better in the morning no it's always way worse way way way worse way way worse because you're hung over and you're hurt you know what the thing about traffic cones is or just cones in general until you start noticing cone and like looking for cones you forget how many cones there are in this world. Yeah, a lot of cones.
Cones are everywhere, and sometimes they put them up in just random places that don't make any sense at all. But cones, there are probably more cones on Earth than bees.
Yeah, that's a fact. Breaking moves, by the way.
Honor Bedard is undefeated as an NHL player.

Did he score?

No, but they won.

That's pretty cool.

Winning your first game.

Congrats.

Congrats.

Yeah.

You said the Black Box waited until after. No, it was a season ticket holder.

Indigenous Peoples Day.

Yes.

We waited to win our first game.

All right, last one.

Hey, PMT.

My Jimbo moment occurred while ordering lunch.

It's the new guy's role to order lunch for the group, so I had to order lunch from a local place for 15 people. Wait, what? It said local place.
We'll circle back to that. I was able to place order online without any issue.
However, when I showed up to the place to pick up, they had no record of my order. I checked my receipt and ordered it to the wrong location.
This other location is over an hour away. Safe to say I had to take a drive of shame as no one brought lunch this day.
There's no better way to get your coworkers cranky you than when you take two hours to get their lunch. Yeah.
Not local is what you're saying. That's such a shitty feeling.
I did that last summer where I was on vacation and I ordered lunch to my house in Brooklyn. I used to do that once a week, conservatively speaking.
You remember I got on a real hot streak where I would order my lunch to my apartment by accident, and then I'd have to text my neighbor, hey, if you want Chick-fil-A for the third time this week, it's outside. Yeah.
Yeah, it's a bad feeling. There's nothing you do.
But why would you get into a car and drive an hour each way instead of just ordering it again to the right location? See, I thought that that's the rich in you because then I remember. Oh, no, no, no, no.
No, Hank, it's the cheap and the poor in me because time is money. Oh, people are getting mad at me because I said $870,000 for Brock Purdy, like not a lot of money.
Obviously, I made that for a starting quarterback. People are like, oh, there's so out of touch.
Dude, I know $807,000 is a lot of money. He's a starting quarterback on the best team in the NFL.
That's not a lot of money for the starting quarterback on the best team in the NFL. Agreed.
A top four quarterback in the NFL, as we learned. Hank, was this an order that this guy placed on his own to be a nice guy for 15 people or was it like through work sounds like he had to place it and then he was probably gonna get paid back or whatever but when i was an intern i used to have to go pick up dave's lunch and i had no money and i used to have to ask i'd go to panera and try and get like extra bread or occasionally if i was being risky like order myself a chicken chicken like a soup broccoli cheddar soup and just hope he didn't count the change so i'm thinking if this was me in this situation like i wouldn't i would be like i'm driving it's gonna be like my my car broke down or something yeah yeah that's a that is a long drive if you have to go two hours for lunch but if it's 15 people that's probably like 200 250 bucks yeah i'm just thinking if it's like on the work account they would probably understand if the new guy screwed up for sure but he probably he probably had to order it and then wasn't ready to pay twice no no um okay good show boys great show great show any questions from you max no i'm sorry for las, I wasn't lashing out.
I was just asking. Apology accepted.
Max, the thing that people don't understand about Max is you know he cares when he can't speak or get his points across. He gets flustered.
His brain short circuits. What I'm trying to say.
He's in denial about the loss. He's trying

to make the loss seem like it didn't happen.

You guys don't understand.

No. I was just trying to find

a silver lining. You saw

how down bad I was last night.

You saw how down bad I was last

night. All I was thinking, the series

is over. This is bullshit.

Then this morning, I was trying

to get something, some sort of positive going into the next game and that was something i was like you know what like cassianos could have won the game like but he didn't you have the split this but the split yeah i want like i want like the most recent i want to look at like what can i what can what can i get out the positive after all those bad events?

I was like, you know what?

The bank.

The bank.

You could have knocked on that hole like it was a good out and could have just said, if you told me going to the series

that we'd split at the Braves, I'd be happy.

Splits are good.

You guys split the top of the ninth inning

and the bottom of the ninth inning, too.

Yeah.

You split the ninth inning.

No, they scored.

It wasn't the ninth inning when they hit their – Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right. No, they didn't bat in the ninth inning.
Yeah, they never scored. OK, that's a fact.
That was OK, whatever. What you're you're tied going into the next game, both in ninth innings.
Well, we are tied one one going into the next game. Right, right.
But also in ninth innings. This is the everything Aaron Nola game.

This defines everything because I'm kind of an Aaron Nola hater,

but if he pitches well, I will love him forever.

If he pitches poorly, I never want to see his face again.

Wow.

What if he pitches mid?

You've got to win the game.

What if he gives up six earned runs and three innings pitch,

but you win the game? Then if he gives up six earned runs and three innings pitch, but you win the game?

Then he lives to see another day.

Are you going to kill him?

No, it'll just be – he'll be dead to me in my brain.

You're going to put him in the grave next to Bloopy?

No, mentally he will be dead in my brain.

Max, what if he pitches really, really well,

but they just hit a lot of ground balls to where your fielders aren't? What if there are a lot of bang-bang plays? He's got quality pitches. You know, I wouldn't tip my cap, but I would understand.
What if he pitches really, really well, but the manager, Max Alente, puts him out in the seventh inning when he's clearly fatigued? I'm not the manager. I'm not the manager.
Do you think Matt Olsen watched the memes brought this up. Do you think Matt Olsen watched the videos of me freaking out?

I'll text it to him.

Don't do that.

I'd say yes.

Unless he's doing the social media shutdown for the playoffs.

But I'll text him.

Don't text it to him.

I will absolutely text it to him.

You should probably text it to him just in case.

I'm going to text it to him.

I'll text him the full video.

All right. Number one where Max goes, everything you said was a lie.
No, everything I said was right and everything everyone else said was a lie. That's my favorite.
I'm going to say I'm going to text him right now. I'm going to say Max was on PMT.
Max is wondering if you watch this video. So I want to make sure you watch..
No, that's not. I asked you if you guys thought that.
I don't want you to bring it to his attention. Max, were you not wondering if he had seen the video? This is actually memes' question.
But you just wondered if he had seen the video. I wondered if we're finding out.
I wondered if you guys. He's getting the answer? Fact of fiction.
I don't. But I don't want.
He's probably asleep. Big guy doesn't have to wonder because he can just text.
I just said I said on PMT Max was wondering if you watch this video. So I wanted you to watch this video.
Good luck tomorrow, but I'm rooting for the Phillies because I have a future on them. You didn't say the last part.
No, I didn't say the last part, but I thought it. No, you said good luck tomorrow.
I want you to win. I want to see tears.
I said good luck tomorrow. Yeah.
I'm rooting for him personally. You're rooting.
You are rooting for the Mavis. For my future.
No, you're not. I'm rooting for the Phils.
All right, numbers. Okay, numbers.
18. 69.
20. Memes, you ever gotten this? Fuck.
It's never happened to me. Nope.
Also, the Rangers officially won. ALCS bound.
Yep. All right.
Two. 27.
He's trying to think of what number the Phillies are. 27.
Is that what number the Phillies are? That was my Little League number. 24.
Whoa. Damn.

That's a close guess.

That was my brother's guess.

If you had gotten that, I would have.

You know what that is?

Max, that's a quality guess.

That is a really close guess.

That's next year.

24.

That's a real.

Max, you can go to bed tonight being like, I was close.

And that almost as good as a win.

No.

No. No.

No.

Let's go, NOLA.

Love you guys.

I'm talking away.

I don't know what I have to say.

I'll say it anyway.

Today's another day to find you shining away.

I'll be coming for your love of me.

For your love of me. for your love Take on me

Take me on

I'll be gone

And after your tears

Thank you. I'll be gone And after your day Needless to say

I'm all descended

But I'll be still running away

But I'll be okay

Say after me

It's been better to be safe than sorry. Take on me, take me on.
I'll be gone And after I change

The things that you say

Is it liable

Just to play my worries away

You're all the things I've got to remember

And you're shying away

I'll be coming for you anyway

Take on me

Take me on

I'll be gone

After a dream