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Today is Wednesday, September 20th. And boys, there's a chance that Aaron Rodgers is having a better year than Deshaun Watson.
I don't think so, Big Cat. He got his Achilles torn.
Yeah, but Deshaun Watson is very bad. He was so bad.
Baker Mayfield is smiling. What is that face, Hank? He was bad.
The first interception wasn't his fault. Yeah, that's probably fair.
That's fair. But he was so bad, Hank.
And Baker Mayfield is smiling. Baker Mayfield is so happy to see this.
They ran him out of town in Cleveland. I've been saying, ever since Baker got that raw deal, that they didn't know what they had when they had Baker.
When you're the Browns, you've got to be happy sometimes with having a serviceable quarterback, and they thought that they could go ahead and break the structure of the NFL salary cap and give a sex predator $240 million guaranteed. Not working out so well for the Browns.
So I have some stats for you. Deshaun Watson, out of the 35 quarterbacks with 200 passing attempts since the start of 2022, so he played half of the year last year, played two games this year so far.
He's 33rd in yards per attempt, just below Carson Wentz. He's 33rd in passer rating.
Just below Davis Mills. 34th in sack rate, 34th in completion percentage, 30th in success rate.
By any measure, he is one of the worst quarterbacks. Right now, obviously, he's shown that he can play quarterback in the NFL, so he has a resume that if he can get back to that, it's worth the investment.
But as we're sitting here, Deshaun Watson it is it's ugly he also might have created a burner account after the game did you see the screenshots of that yeah that rules so allegedly from Deshaun I think it was called the Twitter account was like Gainesville raised or something like that all the tweets that he had were about Deshaun Watson replying to people who were replying to tweets about the Browns game saying not his fault he He doesn't call the plays, not his fault. Give Deshaun time.
Still one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. So he, he might be out there still standing up for himself.
He's the last person that believes in Deshaun Watson. Yes.
Now I do feel for Browns fans. I feel like I like Browns fans.
I really do. And it was a disastrous night.
I want them. I want them to be happy.
They've been just a dismal franchise for a long time um but deshaun watson i'm it's it's ridiculous how poorly he's played since he's come back and then you had obviously the nick chubb injury which was i don't know nick chubb is is probably like one of the most light guys i feel like no one even if you're not a browns fan you love watching nick Chubb play football um and that sucked so bad because his knee well Schefter tried to dupe us Schefter reported about his knee injury from 2015 and phrased it in a way where you read the first part of the tweet and you're like oh they already diagnosed that he tore everything in his knee he probably already he probably did tear everything in his knee but Schefter was doing that for clicks he got some good he got engagement on that one. Like a real NFL fan, I keep Schefter notifications on during the season.
Correct. So it popped up on my phone.
I had the dot, dot, dots afterwards. So it said Nick Chubb tours LCL, PCL, ACL, MCL, cartilage damage, and then dot, dot, dot, and then I opened it up, and it was in 2015.
In a game against Tennessee. In a game against Tennessee.
We'll see if he can recover from this one.

It's never a good sign when your running back hurts himself and Willis McGahee starts trending on Twitter.

Yes.

That's a big sign that something's wrong.

It's also crazy they didn't show the replay.

That's insane.

They showed us Damar Hamlin dying on a field.

So when it happened, Joe Buck was like,

and I'm being told that we're not going to show the replay. It that bad as joe buck saying that you hear the crowd reaction in pittsburgh to them seeing the replay live and to me that was almost worse than watching the replay because you hear that and it's a bunch of pittsburgh fans who want nick chubb out of the game they don't want him injured but they obviously don't want to see him scoring touchdowns against them and the entire crowd in pittsburgh is just like oh dear god what did i just see so what what do we have to do we're basically entrapped into going online and looking for the replay and it was gnarly it was gnarly but i don't understand what when did they start doing that when did they do it sometimes that's ridiculous your your job is to telecast the game you can maybe put a warning before it but like i it's not like i was like oh i want to see how bad is but like you watch the game well i kind of did because it was crazy to see well when joe buck says yeah it's so bad we're not going to show it to you that's like your parents being like no you're not allowed to watch this movie it's got tits in it and then i'm like wow braveheart's awesome yeah we can't wait till i go to my friend's house i'm going to watch braveheart yeah yeah it was show the show the injury show it once your job is to telecast the game it's a pretty important thing that happened in the game because the browns were moving the ball nick chubb had like 60 yards in a quarter and a half so uh but yeah that was about as bad as you could get for a monday night football game for the browns if you're a steelers fan you're happy that you got the win congrats on it you're happy for tj for breaking the sack record getting that touchdown that was awesome hank that probably brought up some bad memories for you seen a tj a lot of tweets it was so funny when hank did that the first time the best and nick was like wait it says here derrick watt and then all the blood drains out of our poor hank's face um but you're probably happy if you're a steelers fan you got tj broke the record you got to win you beat a division rival the streak stays intact 21 straight they haven't lost on in Monday night football since 1991 at home at home at home that's wild 21 straight home Monday night football crazy streak but you're also like I fucking hate our offense coordinator and I hope that he falls into a river on the way home because they were so the Pittsburgh Steelers at the start of the fourth quarter they were losing 22 to 19 they gained negative seven total yards in the fourth quarter and they won the game 26 to 22 it was it was basically like you were watching the game being like the Steelers should punt on first down because the best chance they have of scoring is to get Deshaun Watson to fumble again.
That was how it felt. Their defensive line was absolutely eating.
They were everywhere. But their offense and that third and one call, I don't know what maybe it was a broken play, but Kenny on a keeper on third and one, I think out of the shotgun, maybe the worst play call ever.
There was misdirection, and then it ended up having like three defensive linemen in the backfield at the same time. Yeah, just smashing him.
Made no sense. They didn't run a play inside the Browns' 30-yard line.
Yeah. That's pretty bad.
So, Browns fans, at least you have week one. Week one was a great win to beat the Bengals.
You killed them. You smashed them.
All the hopes. And then it just, week two, it feels like their season obviously isn't over, but losing Nick Chubb, it's devastating.
It's as bad as it gets. And, yes, you did get hosed on a pass interference on the final play of the game, but the ball was a shitty pass from Deshaun.
Yeah, he needed to make it better. If it was close called it yeah we also had uh the saints and the panthers playing monday night football it actually was so two two monday night football games wait i got one more thing about the the steelers okay did you notice they did double renegade they i did not they did double renegade which they rarely do at steelers games it's like once a season they'll break out a double renegade.
They brought it out, and I think it was the next play. It might have been the second play after double renegade was played.
T.J. Watt got the scoop and score for the touchdown.
Yeah. Double renegade works.
It's legit. Renegade works.
They did that when I went to the Monday Night Football game last year, two years ago, Steelers-Bears, and they did renegade, and it was an immediate fumble for the Bears. Yeah, it's magic.
It it's it's how they keep their streak intact yeah uh but yeah it does feel like the Steelers are

going to just be a perfect Mike Tomlin team that they won't go under 500 but probably also won't

make the playoffs yeah and if I'm a Steelers fan I just I I wake up wondering what has Matt Canada

done to stick around Matt Canada sucked when he was at Wisconsin he sucked forever yeah he's been

bad everywhere he's gone and for some reason he keeps getting jobs it's probably super nice

I'll see you next time. round matt canada sucked when he was at wisconsin he sucked forever yeah he's been bad everywhere he's gone and for some reason he keeps getting jobs he's probably super nice yeah yeah he probably is super nice sorry sorry sorry about that third downplay uh so yeah the other game is he from canada no probably in this in this example he is uh he probably they probably gave him the nickname matt canada because he was weak and inefficient but super nice um the other game so it was the double header uh it was kind of crazy because it was like two games oh this is gonna be awesome two monday football games when both games just kind of sucked in their own special ways uh i i do actually think that uh on a double header kenny pickett deshaun watson bryce young derrick, I think Taysom Hill was the best quarterback.
Taysom Hill looked pretty good. He looked really good.
And yeah, the Panthers, we said it with Steve Smith, they're just, it's not a Bryce Young thing. It's like, there's no one who's getting separation.
Adam Thielen is trying to make moves and he has no time. And I can't really judge what I'm seeing because it's not easy for him.
The one thing I didn't like about Bryce is he doesn't realize yet that defensive players are fast. So he tries to scramble out of pockets a lot and use his legs to just buy some time, keep looking downfield, and he was just getting hit left and right.
Deshaun does that too. Yeah.
He thinks he can just run away and just get killed. You get hit from behind.
You're like, how'd that guy catch up to me? That didn't happen in Alabama. Yeah.
But the Saints and Panthers, I mean, that was a very boring game. Derek Carr had a terrible interception in the first half.
Yes, he did. It was actually electric.
I bet every quarterback to throw an interception. Bryce Young was the only one who didn't.
Oh, really? Yeah. Everyone else threw an interception.
Yeah, there was one point where it was like four turnovers. Both games had double turnovers going on within probably like a five-minute span.
Yeah. It was like, why am I watching this? Oh, yeah, because it's football.
It's football, and we watch it. Yeah.
And Andy Dalton got to come in for a sneak. That was kind of exciting.
Andy Dalton and Josh McCown standing next to each other, all hair team. Yeah.
That was a big moment. But, yeah, that game, I guess it it's better that uh there was a double header although I still and this is for people who have more than one tv uh the ESPN or sorry one game was on ESPN one game was on ABC or ESPN 2 they ABC and ESPN okay so the George Pickens touchdown we found out about it before it happened because it they changed the score bug on the ESPN Pan-Saints game.
Was that an app thing? Were you watching on the app? I don't know, but it was. I was watching the game on the app too.
Yeah. So it might be like live TV duking it out against the app.
It was crazy. It was not like significant timing, but it was the score changed.
I looked down. George Pickens caught the ball.
I was like, well, this is going to the house. Yeah.
And George Pickens is such such a psycho i love him i i do think he's the perfect amount of insane when he tried to jump when he tried to hurdle someone for no like the guy was standing upright he was like i'm just gonna jump into you and actually kind of work because the guy was like what was that move it was the guy like tried to catch him because he it was like a dance move it was like flash dance yeah so yeah i'll catch you and i and I'll spin you around, George. He didn't try and jump.
He didn't try and hurdle. Right.
Like he didn't lose his balance. He just jumped up in the air.
Right. You know what? He gets the zoomies.
It's kind of sick. He gets the zoomies.
You need to get him the ball because he's going to freak if he doesn't get the ball. Yeah.
And the Steelers also, their offense just looks so slow. Najee Harris, I don't know why he got so slow.

I don't know.

It's painful to watch how slow he is.

Was he always this slow?

No, he was not that slow at Alabama.

He wasn't like a burner, but he wasn't that slow.

I feel like in the NFL, even his rookie year,

his great plays were jumping over people, which he loves to do,

and then running into somebody and bowling them over for three yards, but he puts the guy on a poster. Right.
But I don't think he was ever super fast in the NFL, but he looks slower somehow, and he's getting caught. He's not able to break it to the – if he bounces it to the outside, he's getting tackled.
Right. And he had one play, though.
There was one play where he got stopped in the backfield and then ran around the edge. Kenny Pickett threw an awesome block, just really laid his shoulder into the guy.
But besides that, yeah, it's painful to watch the Steelers' offense. And another thing, if I'm a Steelers fan, we've got to do something about Mike Tomlin's challenge situation.
Oh, he's so bad. But I think it's so funny how bad he is.
It is. It's very, very funny.
It feels like a bit at this point because they'll show the replay. Wait, he did win one, though.
No, I don't think that was an actual challenge. They didn't count that as a challenge.
I think he tried tried to challenge it but it was already overturned got it so he should get credit he would have gotten that one right he should get credit but the play was it the amari cooper catch yes and he threw the flag after they just showed the replay and and troy was like that's just a great catch by amari cooper yeah and you saw the two feet down mike tomlin is not watching the same game whoever does he have a challenge guy? I think his challenge guy is his players. And his players, a defensive back, will always run over to you like, that guy didn't catch you.
There's no way that guy got a catch on me. I like how he challenges, though, because he challenges how any of us would challenge.
It's just pure frustration. So it's not like it's a 50-50 call.
We got to go look at it. It's, fuck, how did we give up that long third down? This is a challenge yeah i wish that's exactly how i would challenge the nfl he does i wish that play didn't happen right can we can we just redo there's a there's a mechanism in the nfl where you can eliminate a play i don't care about what the rules are behind it i'm just going to throw the flag that makes the play go back he's constantly doing like basketball just check ball check ball up top yeah let's reset this it's it's so bad it's not fair what's so bad we've talked about on the show but there should be like nfl coaches aren't great at watching football they don't watch enough they watch film but they don't watch football on tv from the angles that we watch right we're better at knowing when you should throw the challenge flag than nfl coaches are right if there's somebody out there that just spends all day sunday all night monday all night Thursday, all day Saturday watching football, you are better at knowing when to challenge a call is than an actual NFL head coach.
It's Malcolm Gladwell 10,000 hours. I've watched more football than an NFL head coach.
We're experts. It's not like a brag.
You don't think so, Hank? No, but we're talking about football, the actual game. Yeah, we've watched so much more football.
And that's when you're're making the decision it's not again like pft said it's not film like how do i beat this defense obviously coaches are way better than that at us but we're talking about actual game footage broadcast yeah like the nbc at angle where they zoom in real tight coaches don't know what that is they have no idea they don't even know the yellow line they don't know the green zone. They don't know the green zone.
Yeah. They don't know the pylon cam.
They don't know the sky cam. I had to correct Jerry last night.
The yellow line's not official because he was like, look. I was like, dude, yellow line not official.
To be fair to Jerry, they never say that on broadcast. They used to when they first unveiled.
Well, they don't say it as much anymore. They first unveiled it.
They said it all the time. Yeah, yeah.
It was like mandatory. They need to send a reminder to everyone.

Yellow line, not official.

I think anybody that watches football knows that the yellow line is not official.

Yeah.

But it gets confusing sometimes.

You watch too much football.

All right.

Rich Eisen's Twitter bio.

What?

The yellow line is unofficial.

He is.

That's a good one, Rich.

That's a fucking good one.

He got us there.

All right.

Let's talk.

Never mind.

What?

No, I was going to make a joke, but I'm not going to say the joke.

You might as well say it now.

No, you guys, somebody will know what the joke was.

Okay. It was going to be a cheap shot at Hank and his quarterback.

Oh.

Go ahead, just do it.

When Mac Jones is driving on the roads, the yellow line is not official there either.

That's true.

Yeah.

He needs a lighthouse to find a way to get home.

Speaking of the lighthouse.

Lighthouse talk. Hank, I reached out.
Someone invited us to the lighthouse. Yeah, we should go.
I'll burn it down. I got multiple invites.
Can we podcast? I feel like the Ramsey Youssef of the lighthouse. Stop talking about the fucking lighthouse.
Listen, we'll stop talking about the lighthouse when Hank stops bringing it up every show. I don't bring it up.
Shout out to Alexandra for inviting us. Hank, since you brought it up, I do have a lighthouse update for you.
I did bring it up. You did bring it up.
And I don't care. You did bring it up.
I reached out to the United States Coast Guard, Commander Kroll. You already did this.
Well, I heard back from the Coast Guard. Active? Yes.
Is he active? What do you mean active? Are you looking at this guy's credentials? Well, some of these retired guys just start spouting off conspiracies just to get in the media. Hank, he is a commander.
Current? Current commander. Okay.
Salute, Hank. Yeah, no, respect.
Respect. Commander Matt Kroll, director, U.S.
Coast Guard motion picture and television liaison office. Okay, so this is fake.
Yep, love this. He's a commander.
Commander. Respect the commanders.
They're 2-0. Did you hear the commander part? My name is- Commander of television? Can I finish? It sounds like you don't want to hear the facts.
Sounds like all you want to do is talk about the lighthouse. My name is PFT Comitor, and I do the part of my Take Sports podcast for Barstool Sports.
I'm writing to you concerning a matter of public debate surrounding lighthouses, which I understand fall under the purview of the United States Coast Guard. Recently, a dispute has emerged regarding the legitimacy of the new 208-foot-tall, quote, lighthouse that was constructed at Gillette Stadium.
It was built to replace the old lighthouse, which was rendered obsolete due to being completely blocked out by the stadium's new jumbotron. On one side of the debate are Patriots fans who claim that this is the tallest lighthouse in the united states hank the team has made numerous public statements to that regard and many supporters of the organization believe it to be true on the other side of the debate are those who recognize the cape hatteras lighthouse as being the tallest u.s lighthouse and if the gillette stadium lighthouse qualifies as being the tallest we must then acknowledge that lady liberty herself which actually functioned at one time as a lighthouse, would be the rightful holder of the title, as she stands nearly 100 feet taller than the Gillette Stadium structure.
And is on water. I wanted to ask for the Coast Guard's official opinion on the matter, given the public discourse surrounding the claims.
Publications of note, such as the Sports Business Journal, have taken to regurgitating the Gillette Stadium press releases and backing their claims. As you can imagine this has led to a lot of confusion commander crow writes back good morning thank you for reaching out i attached our lighthouse fact sheet that should help answer some of your questions it clearly lists cape hatteras as the tallest which refers to the total length of the structure itself this is why the statue of liberty at 151 feet without her pedestal would not be considered the tallest.
Cape Mendocino is actually the highest above sea level at 515. I hope your listeners enjoy these lighthouse facts, and please let me know if you have any additional questions.
I did. Per the United States Coast Guard, the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse is the official tallest lighthouse in the United States, not your fucked up Fugazi piece of bullshit.
Well, I don't know. When do they update those records? Maybe it's like today because the guy wrote me back.
No, but like maybe it's like that's, you know, like old Madden games. You're going to have to reply and say, are these updated as of today? I asked him the question on Saturday.
He wrote me back yesterday. But it is a very new lighthouse.
Those are just general guidelines.

Did you open the attachment? I did open the attachment.

That seems like a sheet that maybe needs to be updated.

Yeah, it's like a Madden game. You have to wait

until the next year for an updated roster.

BFT, you got to reply and we got to update the people

on Friday. Tallest Lighthouse, Cape Hatteras,

North Carolina.

That's a fact. Just reply

and be like, is this current as

of today, September 20th?

And then on Friday

We'll be right back. north carolina that's a fact just reply and be like is this current as of today september 20th and then on friday we'll let everyone know okay when we do our lighthouse segment i just thought that was interesting that that the coast guard itself says that you're one guy from the director of television the command he's a commander commander show some fucking respect so your lighthouse is stolen valor no it's not it is no it's not you're claiming that it's a lighthouse when Show some fucking respect, Hank.
So your lighthouse is stolen valor.

No, it's not.

It is.

No, it's not.

You're claiming that it's a lighthouse when in fact... And you're also claiming it's the tallest lighthouse.

It is the tallest lighthouse.

All right, well, we'll find out.

We'll find out when we do the follow-up.

I'm happy we had this talk.

I'm going to make some calls.

Now that I know this is what we're doing.

Who are you going to call?

You got a lighthouse guy?

Oh, okay.

Are they commanders?

Yeah, probably. You bring your facts, and Pieti will bring his.
Yeah yeah we'll have a fact off yeah okay anything higher than commander general i don't know chief of staff i don't know commander general yeah general yeah i don't think the coast guard has generals do they i don't know okay well either way let's uh let's talk some college Before we get to some college football talk, we're brought to you by ourselves. Part of my cheesesteak has just unleashed a menu that will have your mouth watering in no time.
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College football. Let's start with the only way you can start alabama's washed alabama is so washed done nick saban is so bad

at coaching football big cat he is one of the worst football coaches in college did you see

the video of nick saban coming because they had so they played usf uh there was a weather delay

and they were coming into the locker room it was just pouring on them and they were coming in the locker room and there was like a maybe a three second video of Nick Saban walking the locker room wet tired sad and that was the first time where I was like oh Nick Saban like their thoughts might creep in like why the fuck am I doing this right now yeah it doesn't make a lot of sense unless Nick Saban is a type of a hyper competitive coach where he wants to put together a solid season without having a good quarterback at all yeah so Jalen Milrose back to being the starter uh it does feel different than the past times that Alabama has quote-unquote been down because even like when look at, I think the last time they were outside of the top 10 was maybe 2015. And I believe they won a national title that year.
So every time you look for Alabama stat, that's like, ooh, Alabama trending down. It's like, well, then they won a national title within a year of that.
Yeah, it doesn't look good, though. I don't see a way that they climb out into contention in the sec with the current roster that they have with this current program that they have in place right now he'll probably get like a beast of a quarterback next year they'll be fine because i it's not like nick saban stopped recruiting elite defensive players and elite skill position players and elite offensive linemen they're probably actually one piece away And they also, the craziest part is, I think that we're so used to Alabama obviously being so dominant.
It's not that they have quarterbacks that are, if you look at them, they're all top recruits, and they're guys that were heralded coming out of high school. It just hasn't translated.
So Jalen Milrow is back to being the starter. I actually think that think that's the right move because at least with jalen milro even though the throwing is not really there you can at least make explosive plays running the question just occurred to me big cat um did we texas is back ourself the same way that we texas is backed ourself back in like 2017 when they beat when they beat down yeah they beat it down well texas struggled with wyoming yeah i know they were in the i mean they ended up winning by like 28 but the fourth quarter i think we might have backed ourselves into a corner on that because everyone thought that this was like a huge win against an elite program that's going to dominate this year maybe not win a national championship but at least be you know relatively alabama like and they win a big primetime, everybody's watching it, and then they struggle the next week.
Now I'm starting to doubt my entire Texas is going to make the college football playoff take. Well, it feels like this college football season, I hope I'm right, because these are the best college football seasons.
No one's really that good. Because you had also Georgia struggling with South Carolina in the first half.

I think Georgia is still very, very good. Don't get me wrong.
But because their schedule is so weak, we're going to be able to say who have they played all year long. You know, Michigan has not played a team yet.
They've just been rolling through people. You saw Oregon struggle at Texas Tech.
Washington actually has been dominant. But like maybe everyone maybe there's a lot of really good teams, but no superpower team.
Which I love. And that's the best college football.
I love it. It's going to be chaos down the stretch.
I can't wait for it. I think Alabama is going to be good, but I am concerned about the fact that Texas may have beaten a fraudulent Alabama team.
We'll find out this weekend. And now we're going to find out.
This weekend's schedule is so awesome. But before we get to this weekend, there is a very important update that we have to give on Iowa's quest for 25 points per game.
I bet the team total over on Iowa, thinking in the back of my head, he's got a chance to rack up some points this week after starting 20 points, 24 points. They were only averaging 22 going into this weekend.
then brian forenz keeps his offense on the field they go for it on fourth down to try to it also covered the spread but also just gave them meaningless points it was 41 to 10 as opposed to being 34 to 10 so they cover the spread and they hit the team total over bringing their average up to a whopping 28.3 points per game. He's sitting good right now.
He's got to go to Pappy Valley this weekend, but he's sitting good as it stands right now. Yeah.
I mean, it is so funny. And I've seen some Iowa fans being like, let's stop talking about it.
It's like, you put it in his contract. Yeah, it's insane.
When the Cardinals put in Kyler Murray's contract, hey, you have to watch actual film and not play video games all the time. We're going to talk about it because it's there.
It's also a fun storyline to keep track of. Yes, it is.
All right, so the other big story, obviously, is Colorado. And we saw an electric atmosphere.
9.3 million people watched on Saturday night, late kickoff. Colorado, Colorado State was such a fun game to watch it was like a game and then also a sideshow of who can we interview on the sidelines and just you know the late hits the travis hunter who hurt or injured morgan and morgan hurt or injured lacerated uh liver yeah i think that's i think that's no it's injured no I'm going to say it's hurt.
I basically played from 26 until I was 35 with the equivalent of a lacerated liver. I showed up to work every day, did this podcast.
It's not that big. The liver re-heals itself.
It's amazing. Basically, Travis Hunter's hungover.
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He did a Twitch stream where he was dressed up as a kangaroo, cheetah. I don't know what he was dressed up.
He was wearing pajamas, giraffe pajamas. Giraffe pajamas.
He had some, looked like some anime pillows in the background. He had a PlayStation controller pillow.
And he was like, I would have kept. It's an awesome pillow.
It's so funny because he's like one of the best athletes. And it kind of cool he's I feel like he's going to get big time sponsorships just by being whenever an athlete is also a nerd yeah and I was like what's this he's got a race car bed yeah but uh he he said he would have kept playing if it weren't for the doctors so thankfully the doctors are like hey dude you have an internal injury that is very bad yeah that was a dirty ass hit that he took to on the sidelines he had like three or four steps to prepare himself uh the safety did that was coming in three or four steps to pull up and then just lay it into him it was uh it was it was bad and i feel bad for travis hunter obviously um that's a tough injury especially when your coach after you lacerate your liver your coach is like yeah he should be back in three to four weeks three weeks yeah i'd be like let's just give it let's give it a couple days to see how it's doing before we say that i feel bad for him that he's gonna have to sit out that he he's dealing with that injury but i also feel bad for us as college football fans and we don't get to watch yes and i also feel bad for the kid who obviously was a late hit dirty hit but it was kind of ridiculous like i guess uh by the time the game ended, his phone number, his address, his parents' phone number, his parents' address had been leaked on the Internet.
People were going pretty crazy at him. Dion did a good job today of, like, you know, dampering that down by just being like, what is everyone doing? Like, we've made our peace.
It was a dirty hit, but we can't. Like, this is crazy.
I also, there were some people who were saying that he should be kicked out of the NCAA.

I actually thought Sir Germajasty Jackson had the best take on it.

He said, you're all doing too much now, bruh.

Terrible play.

He should have been ejaculated.

As soon as I seen that hit, I would have ejaculated him.

But to say he needs to be banned from competing in college football ever again is crazy dog you're all acting soft as fuck i like that take a lot because it takes it takes all the like all the aggression out of him he's probably not going to do a dirty late hit like if somebody was on the sidelines assigned to jack off montez perfect yeah uh in the middle of a game he antonio brown would probably still be on the steelers it would have been embarrassing for him. He'd have to come in front of everyone.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's a classic mix-up. Yeah.
Words sound similar. Eject.
Eject. Eject.
Yeah. But yeah, Colorado.
So I have a question for you guys. Obviously, we are in a different position because we know Deion personally.
Why is Deion getting so much hate? I don't get it. Is he getting hate? I think people are rooting for Colorado to lose very badly, and I think they will lose against Oregon.
I don't feel like people are rooting for them to win. They're like the most bet team.
No, I know the bets. I'm saying, though, it feels like a lot of people want Colorado.
You had Danny Cannell, which was very funny, because Danny Cannell wentnell went after Dion and then someone pointed out that the last pass Danny Cannell threw as a starter was a pick six to Dion yeah and they're like maybe this is why there's just maybe I'm way off but it is a very fun story I you love in sports when someone talks the talk and then backs it up I do think they'll probably lose to Oregon but it's fucking it's it's the college football story in the first month of the year. I think maybe people are just fatigued with talking about Colorado.
I don't know. I don't think people were.
And Lil Wayne, they had the Rock. I know that.
It's so sick. But whenever someone gets big, the haters come out.
I don't think they're out yet. I think it's still a fun story that most people are rooting for.
they lose like when the uh when the visor and uh or the guy that wears the visor norvell when he was like yeah i take off my glasses my hat when i talk to adults that's what my mom taught me everybody was like this guy fucked up yeah i think people are rooting for colorado to win because it's a fun story and especially like you can't you can talk about deon but also his players are pretty good. His son is legitimately one of the best quarterbacks in Division I football.
And he's had, what is this? No, it's his second come-from-behind win in the fourth quarter? Yeah, 98-yard drive. 98-yard drive.
He's legitimately awesome. He's fun to watch.
He seems like a nice guy. Deion, I think for the most part, has been likable Deion.
He hasn't crossed that line where it's like okay Dion is now like being over cocky making it too much about himself that will probably happen at some point if they beat Oregon if they continue to win then you'll get people rooting against him but I feel like for the most part it's 90% love for Colorado yeah I think there's a lot of love I just I guess I'm more just expecting what's gonna happen happen. Like, ha, they're frauds.
No, they're playing a really good Oregon team in Autzen Stadium. It's going to be a very difficult game.
If Deion was the coach of Florida State and he was having a lot of success right off the bat, I think people would be like, I'm sick of Deion. I hope somebody beats him.
But the fact that it's Colorado that has been so bad for so long and I just today, they sold out the rest of their season in Boulder. And it's the first time that it's ever happened.
And they probably did that before they realized that the USC game is going to be 10 a.m. local time.
Oh, that stinks. That's tough for college kids.
Yeah, they want to get the big noon kickoff. So 10 a.m., USC will be playing game clock 9 a.m.
Yeah. We got to think.
Okay, Danny was – that's a given. That's like the free space in the center when you're playing bingo.
Like who – what other college football pundit or media member will be the first to turn on Deion? I think it might be Urban. Ooh.
Interesting. I feel like Urban Meyer.
Well, that's a coach-to-coach thing. That's never stopped.
Yeah. He did the commercials.
He did it with Nick Saban. It was Saban.
Half-lack. Yeah.
Same thing. Same guy.
Not the same guy. Not the same guy.
But yeah, Colorado's an awesome, awesome story to watch. Yeah.
It's really all, like, sometimes it's fun. I think what I'm thinking about it is, it's similar to, like, Conor McGregor.
When Conor McGregor would talk his shit and then backed it up over and over, people loved it, and then when he loses, it's like the avalanche comes. So it's maybe like I'm anticipating the avalanche, but no matter what, already Colorado season is a success.
They won one game last year. Yeah.
I think it's going to be Stanford Steve.

I think Stanford Steve will be the first to turn on Dion.

Yeah.

That piece of shit.

We need to get him back on the show.

Yeah, we do got to get him back on the show.

All right.

Other college football stories.

Penn State looks good.

Max, you ready for Iowa?

Yeah, I think we're going to smoke Iowa.

Ooh.

And Ohio State-Notre Dame is going to be awesome on Saturday.

So many good games.

So many good games. I have to fly on Saturday at some some point and there's no good time to fly yeah we also had my my favorite quote of the week was from utsa uh head coach jeff trailer um after they lost i believe it was friday night he said uh frustrating man there's got to be an easier way to make a living somewhere else.
Yeah. That's a good sign of confidence.
I like that. You know the season's going well and you're like, what if I just did mall security? Didn't that guy also say I miss the days when kickers and punters could smoke cigarettes and drink beer? Yeah, he's a good guy.
Back when you could have fun in America. He's fun.
He's fun. You can't spell nutsack without UTSA.
That's what Chaps taught me. That's a fact.
But yeah, this weekend is going to be awesome. I'm very, very excited.
And Colorado, Oregon. I do think Oregon's going to win by a lot.
Oh, I know what I want to say. Hank, you went to the Michigan State bar.
Yeah. Washington might be...
I might have to put a future on Washington. They're so electric.
Washington looked really good. They put up like 700 plus yards.
Phoenix is good. Yeah.
Michigan State has a quarterback that can't throw, and they can't tackle on defense. Those seem important.
One of the worst combinations you can have. It was tough.
So what's next? How are the fans? Real quick, give us a lowdown on what's the vibe like with Michigan State fans. Oh, yeah.
Did you get our Mel Tucker report? Mel Tucker report is that they are number two preseason-ranked college basketball. Oh, good report.
That's what everyone just kept being like. Yeah, they just kept being like.
Good report. Our basketball team is going to be sick.
That's a good spin zone. Don't worry about it.
That's a great job at Michigan State. We're preseason-ranked number two.
Yeah. There was a lot of people there.
That's the crazy thing. Even though Nebraska was terrible.
Michigan State was terrible, the people show up, they were expecting a win. I thought it might happen, and then they got 35-piced in the first half.
Yeah, so what's this weekend? Iowa? You going to four shadows? I was thinking maybe Purdue. On Friday night against Wisconsin, you motherfucker.
Well, I got to – He knows what he's doing. No, that's good for you.
No. Hank's two teams have been outscored, I think, 77-21.
But Hank will find a way. Is Hank the kiss of death? If I do Iowa, they're going to lose.
If I do Penn State, they're going to. We do Penn State with Max.
Yeah. I got some Penn State buddies coming to town this weekend.
The kisser cannot come. The kisser cannot come.
That's a lie. The kisser's definitely You should do it.
It's Friday night though. Do it Hank.
Yeah but that's good for you big guy. Stop Jake.
He's gonna fucking they're gonna win and he's gonna rub it in my face. Don't do it.
Just do it. Whatever.
I don't care. Hank, question.

Piece of shit.

Fact or fiction.

It would be good for the show if your Boilermakers beat Big Cats Badgers.

I don't want to be a Boilermaker, though, but I also don't know when to do it.

No, you don't.

I don't know when else.

I got to, you know.

They're playing.

They got the big drum.

I think Purdue might be playing in Evanston.

Neil Armstrong.

Dude, do.

Why don't you just beat Purdue on the road? Why don't you just do Ohio State? This is the game to get up for. True.
Yeah. True.
That would be the most electric atmosphere. True.
Go with Marky Mark. And it's...
Yeah. And it's a three-point spread, so you're not going to get blown out.
I think it's a good call. Yeah.
You'd be such a piece of shit if you became a Buckeye fan. Yeah.
I would actually be very funny just rolling around duke patriots cowboys you could use the same you could use the same jean shorts you have for the cowboys yeah yeah uh yeah okay yeah you should do that that's gonna be an election i'm so excited for that game uh let me see what produce schedule i think they do play in evanston i think they might even play it i think there's a game at Wrigley this year. Ooh.
Yeah, which would be fun. All right.
Well, your teams, yeah, so far. What's the combined score? I think 77-21.
Oh, yikes. Double-check that.
We left it. I mean, I left the bar in half.
You just feel like, fuck this? What's your statement on Mel Tucker, Hank? Good riddance no you number two in basketball number two in basketball yeah what are you talking about number two in basketball dude it's it's pretty easy number two in basketball i was playing at northwestern at wrigley that'd be fun maybe that's your northwestern yeah yeah pft i'll go with youcats. My Dukes won.
You see that? Yeah. This should have been the Sunbelt Championship from last year that JMU was not allowed to play in because of antiquated NCAA rules.
But we went to Troy. We won 16-14.
Utah State, we take care of business. Then maybe some people are saying game day.
Game day in Harrisonburg. We'll see.
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All right, Hank, what's your hot seat in chill throne?

My hot seat is the U.S. military.

Uh-oh. You hate them.
The Coast Guard, this story. Well, PFT, you can tell me, you know, F-35.
How expensive is an F-35? Off the top of my head, if they're on sale, you can get one for 60 mil, but they're probably, like, closer to 70, 80 mil. Are they important? They're very important, yeah, to the future of electronic warfare.
Hey, did you guys hear this one? Did you see this one? The U.S. has lost over $100 million of jets the last week.
Oh, Aaron Rodgers and the new jet. You see that one? Yeah, that's a good one.
That's pretty good. So for a while, they...
The F-35 Lightning. The F-35 Lightning, they just lost it.
They said, we don't know where it is. And then it turns out that it crashed, and they're worried that it got hacked.
Oh. Yeah.
How, I mean. I don't think it got hacked.
I mean, have you seen the inside of one of these things? Just poor, poor piloting? It could have been. Sounds like you don't respect the troops.
It could have been poor piloting. It could have been, I saw one report that he might have flown directly into a storm, or she, probably she, and then they had to bail out and eject and the plane kept flying and it went like i don't know 70 miles and crashed that's insane yeah it is insane it is crazy that we weren't able to find this plane for like 24 hours the craziest part is that the military asked americans for help they're like hey my bad It used to be back in the day back when the military before it went woke when we just crash a bomber that had a nuclear armed bomb on it into a swamp in north carolina and then we just pretend it didn't happen for 40 years that's how we used to do things back when men were men now we crash one f-35 and the government hops on twitter it's like hey can you help us track this thing down we don't want to hear a plane crash yeah they basically they crowdsource looking for an 80 million dollar for the future of american warfare yeah you hear a big boom on saturday yeah so let us know we found it i don't know i don't know if it got hacked hank there was one report that came out yesterday at the marine corps uh issued guidance saying like hey we're grounding all these flights to do, I guess, just like safety prep and stuff.
And everyone's like, oh, they must be hacked. I don't think they got hacked.
I don't think they got hacked. China's sending weather balloons over here.
China. China.
Bring other weather balloons. I'll shoot down a weather balloon with my eyes closed.
Sounds like you're like in the Chinese pockets. Why? Sounds like.
This thing got hacked. Yeah.
How could you be a pilot and not look at the fucking weather? I don't know. It's not real.
I'm going to take out the F-35 for a quick spin. Hope it's not raining.
Maybe China, maybe China hacked the weather. Yeah.
And they made the storm. You ever think of that, Hank? That's true too.
I think that's more like it. You're just trying to, you know, rub wool over our eyes.
I'm trying to rub wool over our eyes. You know how to help this plane find its way home? A pilot? No.
Yeah, a pilot could call. A lighthouse.
A lighthouse. A lighthouse would have.
A lighthouse. Yeah.
If they had a real lighthouse, that plane would never get lost. Get some tall beacons.
Yeah. I'm never going to stop at the lighthouse.
It makes me laugh every time. All right, Hank, what's your chill throw? your chill we should go no I think it's funnier if we never go well that's what I realized so I was thinking about it why PFT keeps talking about this lighthouse why he hates it you bring it up you just brought it up you talked about the plane and like it's like we get invited we can go and then I remember PFT's too scared of heists to actually go up oh here we go you're lashing out that's why he hates it he's like oh my god tall tall scary tall yeah you're lashing out Hank that's fine that's fine well I was just trying to I can tell he's wide go up.
Oh, here we go. You're lashing out.
That's why he hates it. He's like, oh my God, tall, tall, scary, tall.
Yeah, you're lashing out, Hank. That's fine.
That's fine. Well, I was just trying to like, I was like, why does PFT hate this fucking lighthouse so much? I was like, oh yeah, it's tall.
He hates things that are tall. But the better question is, why do you keep bringing it up? I'm done.
Okay. I'm done.
But we should go. Sure.
I'm sure you're done. But we should go.
Okay. But we should go.
Well, me and Big Head should go. Would you fuck the lighthouse? Yeah.
You just brought it up again, Hank. It's too big.
It's probably too big for me. It wouldn't fit inside.
Your chill throne. My chill throne is Sean McVay.
Okay. He said the reason that he kicked the field goal with two seconds left or three seconds left in the game, down 10, was to avoid getting Matthew Stafford hurt.
Oh. Oh, yeah.
It's tough. You get a lot of quarterbacks hurt on kneel downs.
Did you see also? It was like we were thinking we were going to get a downfield play and have enough time to kick a field goal, get an onside kick. And then once we got down there, we just said, let's kick the field goal.
Yeah. Did you see also Ravel was like, I tried to join the zoom for sean press conference they didn't let me in very suspicious for not letting a gambling reporter

and it's like hey dude ravelle maybe you're just annoying yeah like that probably was it yeah

sometimes the uh the simplest simplest explanation is the right one right i think with ravelle it's

like yeah why do why does everyone keep blocking me from all these things they must be afraid of

my reporting yeah they don't want to hear the truth no we just don't want to hang out with you

Thank you. right one right i think with revel it's like why do why does everyone keep blocking me from all these things they must be afraid of my reporting yeah they don't want to hear the truth no we just don't want to hang out with you pretty simple even if it's on a zoom all right your hot seat chill throw and pft i was actually going to do the lighthouse on the on the hot seat because you know we reached out to the coast guard for comment but we've already gone through that brought it up again i don't want to relitigate it.
Yeah. Hank? I got work to do.
Oh, here he goes. He's doing it again.
I got work to do. Stop bringing it up.
Stop bringing it up. So my hot seat is going to be- I got one for you.
I got another one. The seat that's right next to Lauren Boebert.
Oh. Because a report came out that she's single again, number one.
It was a first date. And that it first date with this guy.
So she was jacking off at the musical, which is fucking hot. Like this.
You know me, big cat. I like grandmothers, right? You got sister Jean, Virginia McCaskey, Lauren Boebert, all the grandmothers.
Dude. First date.
Is there still a bonk list this year? That's not, I'm not being horny. I being normal yeah you're being if you're not horny with the lauren bobert thing you're telling on yourself for being super horny so horny that you're afraid to admit it and also the bonk list should not have us trying to book guests like tiffany gomez yes we're trying to book correct so if we if you see that's just a regular booking of a guest if you see us interacting with tiffany please be cool about it we're not being horny we just we'd like to interview her and get her story her side of things pft is trying to get her on the show and i i dm'd her i said hey what's up tiffany thanks for the follow my co-host and good friend pft is a pretty awesome dude i think you guys connected but wanted to give you the heads up that he rocks lol yeah i i do rock there are a couple true things in that statement number one i i rock i'm a pretty awesome dude and i have made contact with tiffany gomez and i think she's interested coming on the show so everybody be chill be very cool don't fuck this up memes did call dibs yeah so after i said okay i'm gonna try to get on the show uh memes just goes oh she followed part of my take too i'm gonna dm her yeah then he said again he was like do you guys want me to dm her yeah no means we're good we got it we got it bro daddy's got it no problem why don't you stand over there daddy's bringing it home okay he's gonna land this plane but i will respect dibs Unless it's a storm.
Shut the fuck up, Hank. My cool throne is Bill's Mafia.

Yeah?

Bill's Mafia's back.

Big time. Oh, yeah, I saw this.
Big time. So there was a Bill's fan on Sunday's game with the Raiders in town that got naked, I believe.
He might have been naked. No, he's covered in shit.
He was on LSD, coke, drunk, and he was covered in human shit,

and he jumped into a pit at the Bills' new stadium site,

and he got charged with trespassing, which I'm sorry, I thought this was America.

Guys can't have fun in America.

We can't.

Kickers can't smoke cigarettes, drink beer, and a Bills fan can't take LSD.

Crazy.

And climb into the future home of the Buffalo Bills.

Crazy.

I love this from Bills Mafia.

I feel like it's been a while since we've seen a crazy Bills fan story, so it's good to have this back in the system. But yeah, taking LSD, he probably saw the future.
He probably took LSD, saw the site that they were going to construct the stadium at. He's like, I'm going to go watch a Bills game in the future at their future home.
Yes. And he happened to be covered in shit.
That could happen to anyone. I don't know how that happened, but whatever.
He was 29 years old. We all make mistakes when we're younger, but I feel like Bill's Mafia is officially back.
He's barely an adult. Yeah.
He's just a kid, 29 years old. I don't like the fact that I have to deal with this going into the Bills playing the Commanders this weekend.
It feels like things are breaking the right way for the Bills. They're 1-0 since this guy climbed into the future stadium on LSD naked, covered in shit.
And maybe it's a win-1 for the poop acid guy. It might be.
Yeah, this could be an acid bet. So I feel a little nervous about that, but I am happy for Bills fans that go back to their old selves.
Yes. All right.
My hot seat, I got two. The first is Russell Wilson.
He might have to go back to a wristband. So Sean Payton was like, we're not getting the plays in in time.
It was very funny because Sean Payton was like, I'm frustrated. We're not getting the calls out.
We might have to go to a wristband. And then Russell Wilson got interviewed right after, and he was like, I thought we were doing a great job.
Yeah. Like maybe one or two times we didn't, but yeah, we rock that.
Can somebody explain to me what the issue is with wearing a wristband i know a lot of quarterbacks don't want to wear one they might steal it they might go what do you mean the other team might steal it oh they might take the wrist yeah they might take it so russ is just being a good guard very cautious yes okay um and then my other hot seat is the tempe rays so they got a new stadium coming. Oh.
Put out some pretty cool future graphics of the stadium

and didn't really look closely when they were doing that

because it's a bunch of fans walking this beautiful concourse

and one of them was wearing a Wander Franco jersey.

Oh, no.

Jake's favorite player.

Whoops.

They're also staying in St. Pete,

which I guess people wanted them closer to Tampa. Oh.
Is that a rivalry? No, it's not. St.
Pete and Tampa? I mean, Tampa's just more centrally located for people there. Yeah, but St.
Pete, St. Pete.
People forget there's no actual city called Tampa Bay. Yeah.
It's Tampa and St. Pete.
Tampa, yeah. It's just the water.
It's in a bay. It's true.
Yeah. But that's tough.
Yeah. Wanda Franco jersey.
You got to do one last look to make sure. Yeah.
You got to, yeah, every single piece of promotion material that comes out. Have a guy with a magnifying glass.
Yeah. Like, where's Waldo? Yeah.
And then my other or my chill throne is running back. So obviously the Nick Chubb injury was terrible, but thankfully Robert Griffin III is back on it.
So he said after the game, NFL running backs need to have another Zoom meeting and figure out a way to make sure what has happened to Saquon Barkley and Nick Chubb doesn't happen again. Underpaying top-level running backs because they have a higher injury chance and then overusing them is bonkers.
Bonkers. So RG3 is the one person in the world who thought that Zoom meeting did anything? i think so he's like this reads like a tweet that we would send as a joke but he's being serious so i think well i i saw the news that came out right before the nick chubb injury that the nfl is now filing a grievance against the nflpa because apparently and allegedly i don't know if this is true but allegedly during that zoom meeting the running backs discussed ways that they can maintain a little bit of leverage or gain leverage.
And they threw out their feigning or exaggerating injuries. That's what Nick Chubb did? And so apparently Nick Chubb just faked his knee falling apart last night, which is wild.
But no, apparently on the Zoom call, this is what they, somebody discussed, like, maybe we could just, like, play up injuries a little bit more.

Right.

And then that would give us the opportunity to not have a real injury happen, and then we get to the contract sooner with our bodies intact.

So I don't know if the NFL – well, the NFL heard about that, and now they're saying we need to attack the Players Association.

I don't know if RG3 knew that going into, that the players had this stroke this 14 dimensional chest move of like faking a hamstring yeah again but just rg3 is being like here's the solution another zoom yeah we'll figure this out we can't have these injuries happen let's get a zoom to talk about how we can't have injuries happen this could have been an email rg3 yeah yeah so good good job the running backs will get on another Zoom. Okay, Jake.
My hot seat's Disney World. A bear was on the loose in the park, and they had to close 10 rides.
Oh, wow. Bears are back.
Yeah, bears are back. Pretty crazy.
Which rides? That's pretty crazy. How are bears in Florida? That's a good question, Hank.
Okay. I thought that was about to be done.
Someone gave me a quick dumb question look question look no i mean i i don't know anything about bear populations in florida but i when i hear bears i think definitely not disney world no was that the country bear jamboree the racist that was was it the racist bear no it was a real bear a berenstein no huh pretty crazy yeah i don't know what he's doing in florida yeah uh my cool throne is stella blue coffee oh and pickleball plug god yes god let's go i'm heading down to atlanta i will be uh he just threw his head back so violently at the plug god that he i will be representing the dc pickleball team represented uh sponsored by stella blue coffee at the plug god that he injured. I will be representing the D.C.
Pickleball team sponsored by Celebrity Coffee. That's true.
At the MLP event. We also named that team, Jake.
The D.C. Pickleball team.
Yeah. And yeah, come by.
You can come watch. Get tickets.
Great. Are you going to play? I might play matches.
I'm not going to play in the tournament. Why not? I mean, it's MLP.
Okay. It's MLP.
So let's fucking get you in the tournament. Awesome respect for the MLP.
I have respect for the MLP, but we should get... This is like when we say we could step onto the field in the NFL and rush for five yards.
No, we would die in the back. You step on a pickleball player who's in the MLP, he's going to put one through your eye hole.
Jake, you're ready for the MLP. I can do it.
Yeah. I'll play with them.
If you're an MLP player listening, I'll play with you this weekend.

I did. Thursday, Friday.

It's game week. I loved

Hank's reaction because I think it was to

Jake turning on the plug god voice

once he started jumping into it.

M.I. Chillthrone.
In Atlanta.

Chillthrone.

Chillthrone.

M.I. Chillthrone.

Stella Blue call me in.

MLP. I'm excited to represent Stella Blue in D.C.
Pickleball Thursday and Friday. Come by.
Love it. Yeah.
In Atlanta. Okay.
Good hot seat. Chill thrones, everyone.
Let's get to our interviews. We have two.
We have Sam Howell. One question of the quarterback.
But before we do that, we have Brian Hoyer. So a lot of questions with the quarterback.
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Stop it, Hank. Stop it.
No. I was the one hitting.
Blame me. Were you hitting your putter? I didn't have his putter ready for him.
At the end. Where was it? I didn't have his putter ready.
At the end, it was in my hand. I didn't have his putter ready for him.
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It is Las Vegas Raiders quarterback Brian Hoyer, who has been on many teams. Super Bowl champion as well, I should say.
Do you get introduced as a Super Bowl champion? When you don't play in the game, you don't get usually introduced that way, but I was on the team. Yeah, that's bullshit.
You are a Super Bowl champion. You are on the you don't play in the game you don't get usually introduced that way but i was on the team yeah that's bullshit you should you are a super bowl champion you were on the roster you're in the team picture that's yeah well you know i was thinking about this um i don't know if you remember this you remember when we met we were down there in atlanta at that restaurant it was me yes toony and ted karras and we were at that i think it's called umi that sushi place and and we we that was the first time i ever met you.
Yes, yes. I was talking about that driving in.
And I was like, yeah, that was the week of the Super Bowl. Yeah, it was like, good luck in the game.
And I think you were like, I hope I don't play in this game. It's like, that could be a problem.
That could be a problem. But yeah.
It's hard to be a backup quarterback. You never know.
Yeah, so let's start there because, I mean, you obviously started as well. I actually should say, and this might be bringing up bad things, but the Browns year that you got the starting job and that Thursday night game, I think it was, when you got hurt, I believed, I was like, this is it.
Brian Hoyer, you know, local kid, he's going to be the guy for the Browns. So I don't know if you had those same thoughts going through your head, but I really, I really did feel it.
And I was like, for many years, I was like a big, what if like Brian Hoyer was the guy. Trust me.
I saw North Turner out here. He was our offensive coordinator and his son, Scott coaches on our staff out here.
He's like, man, if you ever would have fricking learned how to slide, maybe all, maybe we all still be there um you know it just it was bad timing it was like obviously like childhood dream you know I grew up in Cleveland grew up cheering for the Browns before they left and then all of a sudden I'm playing for them and we're winning and you know if if my cleat just hadn't got stuck in that grass or if Kiko Alonzo hadn't hit me at the same time like you never know but there's a lot of those in a long career. And, you know, I got a chance to start again the next year and unfortunately it just didn't work out, but you know, I'm happy to still be playing and, and I've learned a lot over 15 years.
Yeah. I remember that year.
I actually went to a Browns game and I was driving through Ohio and it was Brian Hoyer's face on Mr. Hero billboards on the side of the room.
Yeah. They loved you.
They loved you in Ohio. And then draft day came out while you were in Cleveland, right? Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, I remember we went to like a little premiere for that. That was pretty cool.
I thought that the quarterback that they had for the Browns was like loosely based around you. Did you ever feel that? Well, it's funny because I had just kind of like that movie was already in production before I even kind of got there because I remember I got there in 2013 and they had already wrapped up all the all the shooting but it was it was funny because then I go go see this premiere and it's like it kind of was like the same thing like are they going to draft this high profile quarterback early and the you know the GM was like no we're sticking with you we're going to draft this running back and this linebacker and you know it was it was kind of a cool cool story but yeah didn't work out that way in real life yeah i never even put that together but you're right it was like it was the same thing it was like a an injured quarterback that was coming back from from something but he was good he was solid he's a better quarterback than the team's seen in a long time i was like this is how did they write this how write this before it happened? The Brian horse.
Crazy. So, and this is always a tough question to ask because you, you have been a backup the majority of your career.
Yeah. What makes a good backup? Because I, we have this debate all the time on Twitter where it's like some star quarterback decides to retire.
It's like, well, he would be better than all these backups. But they don't understand that being a backup quarterback, I think, is more than just talent.
You've got to be a guy in the locker room. You've got to be able to help the starter, all these things.
So what, in your minds, you are a phenomenal backup quarterback. What, in your minds, is that recipe for being a good backup quarterback? Yeah, well, I look at it like I was kind of a backup in two separate parts of my career.
Like obviously the beginning, I'm a young guy learning from Tom Brady day in and day out. Like was I prepared to like go in and do well if something happened to him? Probably not as prepared as I am now with all the experience that I've had.
But, you know, those years when you're a backup, it's all about soaking it in and learning and, and obviously being ready to play and you don't get a ton of reps, but you know, it's, it's a great, it was a great learning experience for me. And then I had a chance to play for a bunch of, you know, different teams, Cleveland, your team, Chicago, Houston.
And then you kind of gain this, you know, obviously the playing experience and you learn from those, those instances. And then, you know, I went back to New England and I'm back in Tom up and it was a different scenario because I had actually played.
And and I think he valued my opinion a little bit more than when I was just this rookie guy who had never done anything. And we had a great relationship and I'd be there on the sideline to see things.
And and, you know, when he'd come into the sideline, like, hey, what you know, what they play on third down. And, you know, I'm trying to watch and be eyes from him from the sideline while also, you know, being ready to play.
And a big thing about, you know, back in Tom was, you know, as he got older, he couldn't practice every day. So, you know, it'd be my responsibility to go in there and, you know, keep the team going and have a good practice.
And which was great because it prepared me for the game that week. And then, you know, then you become a backup to a young guy like Mac Jones.
And it's more about you don't take any reps because he needs every rep and just try to impart the wisdom that, you know, you've learned over the years. And now here backing up Jimmy and, you know, kind of the same thing, having been in our offense of system for a long time.
It's, you know, you know, try to help him where he needs help. And if he asked for it and at the same time, you know, be ready to play like, you know, the first drive of the season, he ran the ball, scrambled, got hit.
They had to take him out to make sure it was okay. And it's like, boom, you're thrust in there.
You just never know when it's going to be. And, um, you know, that's, that's probably the most difficult part is you go to the game day and you have to be mentally prepared to play, but you may not play at all.
Right. And so I always found it easier as a starter because at least you have the week going in, you know when the offense takes the field, you're going out there and you're prepared to play 60 minutes.
Yeah. Just a quick follow-up on that.
Have you ever had a moment in your career where, like, the defense is just teeing off on the starting offense and the the quarterback gets hurt and you're like oh fuck I don't want to do this I mean not that I don't want to do it it's the role but oddly enough of all the years that I've been a backwood quarterback it's only been one or two times where I've had to been thrust into action which is kind of crazy when you think about right um the the for the most um notable was when I played in the Colts with, and I was backing up Jacoby Brissett. And a lot of times, like when the plays called, I'm like, all right, there's a chance that he's going to get hit here.
And I remember it was a play. It was like a quick pass.
And I didn't even think. And then all of a sudden the play's over and I'm looking at where the ball was completed and you hear the whistles and I'm like, you know, what happened? And I look and Jacoby's down.
I'm like, how did, how did you get hurt on this play? You know what I mean? But one of the linemen had fallen into his knee and, and I'd only been there for like four or five weeks. I came at the end of training camp and I get in the game and I'm like, God, please just call some plays that I know.
I remember once there was at one point we called a run play and I'm looking at the defense. We're playing the Steelers and it's like a run to the left.
And they have like seven guys over there. And our center was Ryan Kelly.
And I go, Ryan, we can't run this play. Like, how do I get a play to the right? And he like said the name.
I'm like, all right, that's the one we're doing. Let's go.
And he goes to the right and, you know, get a first down. But, you know, sometimes you just got to go on the fly.
Yeah. Did you always know where your helmet was just in case, even though you've only been like jumped into action a couple times? I'm one of the guys that, you know, Belichick is like, when you're in the back of quarterback, you don't get an earpiece.
You're like, your helmet's on. Yeah.
Because there were games, you know, early in my career where it would be like second and eight, and all of a sudden I hear in my helmet like, Hoyer, get in there. And he just, he'd be like, you know, sometimes it was a preseason game, but it happened in a regular season game too.
And so, you know, that was part of Bill's thing, was always keeping it on me when i'm on the backup my helmet's on first i gotta hear the play and second like you gotta be ready to go yeah that would be my nightmare is being a backup quarterback you get a shot and then just running all over the sideline somebody took my helmet someone took my helmet yeah get that thing back on i always have my when offense is on the field my helmet's always on when yeah when did when did you learn that Belichick liked you? Ooh, good question. I don't know if I ever did, to be honest with you.
I mean, he kept, he brought you back, right? Yeah, no, I mean, I think for me it was, you know, my rookie year, you know, I didn't get drafted and I thought I was going to. And then, you know, of course, when you don't get drafted, you get all these teams calling you after the draft.
And I remember my agent was like, hey, I think, you know, New England really likes you. And I think that's where you should go.
I have a good relationship with these guys. And I was like, Joe, you know, Tom Brady is like, this is ninth year.
They had just drafted Kevin O'Connell, who's now the head coach in Kansas City the year before, like in the second or third round. And they had another guy who had been there for a long time, Matt Gutierrez.
And he goes, just trust me. I think, you know, I've talked to Nick Casario, who was like their pro personnel guy at the time.
And he's like, I think that it'll be a good fit. And worst case scenario, you get to learn from, you know, the greatest coach and the greatest quarterback of all time.
And I said, all right. And I went there and I just tried to learn and soak it all in.
And, you know, week after week got better, got better. And then all of a sudden, the next thing I know, I'm Tom's backup on opening day and he's coming off, you know, major knee reconstruction.
And so I think then I kind of knew, like, you know, they believed in me and that's what they wanted me to do was to be there and obviously be Tom's backup and learn from him. And and then, you know, I end up leaving and playing for a few other teams.
and part of the Jimmy G trade when he went to San Francisco was for me to go back to New England. And obviously, he wanted me back then too.
So it's funny. You never know how things are going to play out.
And to be able to go back there several times, I think that always showed a vote of confidence. Yeah.
Yeah. So you won a Super Bowl and then you also lost the super bowl in the patriots what as a backup do you say anything after like the 2011 loss the giants do you yeah do you say anything or do you just like i'm not saying shit in this locker room yeah i mean that was my first experience losing and and um you know for me that like i don't know this is this is like the the top that it could ever get for me in my career and to lose it was it was heartbreaking and um you know you go in and i remember just i remember tom just sitting there in his locker in his uniform for like 45 minutes an hour and i was like god like and and i was going to be a free agent the next year so i'm like god is this this could be it and then you know i was there again when we lost to the Eagles and, um, you know, that game was incredible.
I mean, I remember sitting on the sideline and Tom was just in the zone. It was like, he came over, he didn't say anything.
He looked at the pictures. That was it.
He went back out and I mean, he threw for 500 and some yards in the Superbowl. It was crazy.
And, um, you know, after losing it for the second time, you walk back in the locker room, like, geez, like maybe I'm, I'm the one that's cursed this team. I've been here for two of the losses, you know, which that made it that much sweeter when I was part of the winning team the next year when we beat the Rams.
Yeah, I feel like I would try to crack a joke and everyone would be really pissed at me. That's probably exactly what happened.
Just be like, yeah, just get in the locker room after Super Bowl loss. Be like, we'll get them next week, guys.
Something like that. Balls were too hard today, Tom.
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. We'll get them next week.
I don't think we have Gronk for. Do you blame yourself as not being good enough on scout team to give the guys a good look at the Philly special? Oh, man.
You know what? It didn't run that one. So, you know what? I can't say I gave him a bad look because we never ran it.
But, you know, that's a ballsy call in the Super Bowl, and, you know, it worked out for him. So, you know, I can't say I gave him a bad look because we never, we never ran it.
But, you know, that's a, that's a ballsy call in the Super Bowl. And, you know, it worked out for him.
So, you know, that's like, like you talk about backup quarterback, like a huge part of it is, you know, I took a lot of pride in prepping our defense each and every week. And to be honest with you, it's a lot of fun because you get to imitate some other guys.
So, you know, you're playing against the Packers and you get to imitate Aaron Rodgers. Like you're trying to make no look throws or Mahomes or, you know, a Josh Allen.
Like there's some things that you learn, you know, skill wise that you could try to do or attempt that maybe you wouldn't do in the confines of your own offense. And so I remember, you know, the Superbowl against the Rams, we were, we were playing those guys.
And I remember, you know, having played in the West coast system, you know seeing a lot of these cards I'm like I know this play I've run this play and you know talking it through with you know the McCourty's the high towers you know those guys and saying hey look like you know I think you know they're probably going to try to do this on this play and and it was pretty cool because after that Super Bowl Devin and and Jason McCourty both you know did an interview and and talked and talked about how I helped contribute to them and their preparation. That meant a lot for me for not having to be able to take the field and take a snap knowing that I contributed.
And those guys felt like I really prepped them for the game. You are a Super Bowl champion.
That right there, you got to just tell that story every single time. So yeah, I mean, that's a great story.
And it's got to be like a very pressure-packed situation to be like, I don't actually get to affect how this game's going to go, but I'm part of this and I'm part of the bigger thing here. For sure.
Which every single week has to be like, it kind of probably weighs on you a little bit, knowing that I can't go out there and help them. You got to be Jared Goff one week.
You got to be Deshaun Watson the next week. It's yeah.
There's a lot that goes into being a backup quarterback. Did Ernie Adams ever give you a little tip? Did he ever tell you something to do as a, as the, as the scout team? Well, funny fact about Ernie is sometimes like on Fridays, they'd let Ernie draw the cards for the scout team.
And he'd come down and be like, look, I got the transcontinental special set up for these guys today. We're going to get them on.
It's like a double reverse pass back to the quarterback. And like, I'm like, there's no way.
He's like, Oh, I saw this coordinator. He ran it back.
You know, when he was the offensive coordinator in Eastern Michigan, you know, 30 years ago. Yeah.
So Ernie was always trying to keep those guys on the toes. And I was, you know, it'd be funny because you could tell when the card was drawn by Ernie and have all these scribbles on it and to be like a crazy like a crazy play.
Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, Ernie.
He's one of our favorite unsung secret characters in the NFL. Oh, yeah.
The Wizard of Oz. Yeah.
Yeah. So Ernie was actually involved.
Friday was Ernie Day. Yeah.
I mean, sometimes Thursdays. And look, trust me, I was a part of those offensive practices where he drew the cards for the defense.
And you'd have this whole scouting report. Josh McDaniels is notorious for prepping us like, look, on this down in distance, we got to narrow down to this.
And, you know, Ernie would have the cards and it'd be some like exotic blitz that they haven't shown in four years. And it catch you off guard and Bill be like, look, there's no rule.
They can't do that. And it would just drive me insane.
So it was always fun when I got to run them against the defense because they would get pissed off. They're like, there's no way they're going to run that.
It's funny that you did that too because you did the exact same impression that Jules does when he comes on the show. So you guys both nailed Ernie Adams.
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I have a, I have an insult stat for myself. That's actually a positive stat for you.
I don't know if you know this one. So bears insult stats always go viral.
People love to do it. The Justin Jefferson won the other day.
Do you know that you know that you are tied uh for most 300 yard passing games in a Bears season you're tied for the most all time with four in a season yeah with Cutler Mitch and Billy Wade the four of you both had four in one season it's an insult stat that the most is four uh I only played five games I know it's insane's insane. We should have let you keep going.
It's crazy. Well, if it wasn't for Clay Matthews destroying my forearm on Thursday night.
I have bad luck on Thursday night games, man. I actually – that was – it's funny you say that.
I know you're a Bears fan. But, like, that was one of, like, the most enjoyable seasons of my career.
I love – I'm a Midwest kid. I grew up in Cleveland.
Chicago, you know, Lake Forest was beautiful. We loved it there.
And I was playing, I was playing well. I'm like, man, like kind of like what you talked about in Cleveland, like this may, I may have a chance here.
And then Thursday night game, second quarter, boom. I mean, the time I ever broke a bone in my life, it was crazy.
And, and, um, but I was on a roll. We, you know, we didn't win all those games.
We were close, but, um, I love playing for love playing for the Bears. Yeah, so you are one of the best Bears quarterbacks of all time, just based on that stat.
Yeah, for sure. Do you think that maybe you would have gotten more chances to start if you had gone by your name, which is Axel? Yeah.
Axel? Axel Hoyer. Axel Hoyer, that's lightning in a bottle right there.
That's a starting quarterback. Or a great skateboarder.
Yeah. It really wasn't up to me.
So my dad's name is Axel. Hence, that's why I'm named after him.
But my mom refused. She's like, there's no way I'm calling my first born son Axel.
So she named me Brian. And that's what I was always called.
And I always joke about it. Like, you know, second, third grade, you go for the first day of school, like roll call.
And they'd be like, Axel Hoyer. And all the kids would laugh.
And I'd get up. And so finally I'm like, like, you know, second, third grade, you go for the first day of school, like roll call and they'd be like Axel Hoyer and all the kids would laugh and I'd get up.

And so finally I'm like, mom, you need to send a note in, tell them it's Brian. And I actually

thought about switching to it when I went to college and my dad's like, don't do it. Cause

like the moment you throw an interception, they're going to start cheering asshole,

asshole instead of Axel. And I said, all right, fair enough.
But you know, it's, it is, it's

cool name. It's unique.
And especially now in this day and age of like these crazy names,

Thank you. I start cheering asshole, asshole instead of Axel.
And I say, all right, fair enough. But, you know, it's a cool name.
It's unique. And especially now in this day and age of, like, these crazy names, everyone who meets me is like, man, why don't you go by Axel? I'm like, you didn't grow up with it as a kid.
Yeah, but you did go. I mean, going from Axel to Brian, like, no offense, dude.
You lost a lot of masculinity. It was the 80s, dude.
Like, everybody was a big fan of 80s. You lost a lot of masculinity in that train.
Axl Rose.

Axl Rose was a cool name in the 80s, right?

That's true.

Yeah, for sure.

That was my dad's name.

It's not like it's just they beat me randomly.

That is, I mean, being like my dad's name is Axl is just as cool, actually,

now that I'm thinking about it.

That's pretty badass.

Yeah.

That's great. I can still switch.

I mean, Giancarlo Stanton used to be Mike Stanton, right?

That's true.

Yeah.

That's a fact.

Yeah.

You switch it up. That's true.
So, I don't know if you watched the uh documentary about johnny manzel we've had him on the show a couple times he actually worked at barstool for a while from your perspective did you because you were there the first year he was at the browns were you like sitting there like this is not going well like i can tell he's probably not putting in the prep work. Did you like have conversations with him about that? Yeah.
You know, it's funny. Everyone always brings that up.
And obviously once the Netflix thing came out, everyone here watched it. They're like, dude, I saw you all over that.
I'm like, yeah, I mean, I lived through it and I always felt kind of bad for Johnny. There was so much pressure, you know, there was so much hype.
And obviously he was going through a lot of things. He and I never had any problem.
I mean, in the building, we were great. I thought he was he was great in the building.
I think if anything, you know, the Browns kind of knew what was going on and they still thrust this all on him. You know what I mean? And and clearly he wasn't prepared.
You know, he kind of jokes about it like, yeah, I had watched zero hours of film. I remember like when they called me in to say, hey, we're playing Johnny.

I remember Mike Pettin told me that. And I was like, OK, clearly, like, you know, this decision is being made for you guys and, you know, for the program.
And that's what they chose to do. But he and I always, you know, we were we were fine.
obviously I was always focused on trying to prepare the best I could

but I tried to

whatever knowledge I could share with him, I did. And he was always, you know, respectable.
And, you know, I think, you know, there's this persona that maybe he felt like he had to live up to. I don't know, but I felt like it was kind of an unfair situation for him to be honest with you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Did you,. Did you ever hear the story about how the owner of the Browns was told by a homeless person to draft Johnny Manziel on draft night? And that's why they took him? When you heard that, were you like, what the hell, man? I grew up around here.
Come on. It's bullshit.
I know. I mean, growing up in Cleveland and knowing that fan loyal and they're just they get so excited about everything.
And I think that was it was kind of weird, like part of like the fan base was, like you said, lean towards me. And then part of it was like, you know, Heisman winner.
He's going to bring us back to the promised land. And I think that was an unfair, you know, hype that was put on him, to be honest with you.
And I think the team fed into that, you know, it was, they wanted to sell the jerseys, they wanted to sell the tickets. And it was crazy.
I mean, we were, I remember beating the Bengals, I think it was the first week in November and we were first place. And, you know, two weeks later I was getting benched.
Yeah. And right.
I mean, look, I didn't play great, but there's a lot of starters who don't play great for a week or two and the team sticks by him.

But I think they were looking for any opportunity to thrust him in there.

And that's where I said, like, I don't know how fair that was to him either.

Yeah. Yeah.
So now you're out in Vegas and I love Allegiant Stadium.

It's one of the best stadiums in the NFL. It's awesome.

Yeah. Have you got to check out the orb that they have there?

You know what? The best view I've had is flying in and you see it at night. I mean, it's incredible.
So we actually, my family's out here and we had like that little bi-week before the season and we went down and saw a comedy show. We were right by it.
I mean, that thing's like out of this world. Yeah, it's crazy.
It's awesome. It's nuts.
So not Josh McDaniel, not Bill Belichick, because Josh McDaniel is your coach right now, and Bill Belichick is probably the greatest coach of all time.

Who is your favorite coach to play for?

So I'll take those two out so you can't answer those.

Who is your favorite coach to play for?

You know, I had two great coaches in Chicago,

and since I'm talking to you, I'll definitely throw them up there,

Dahl Loggins and Dave Ragone.

Funny enough, Dave Ragone, my quarterback coach there,

he went to my high school.

He was a quarterback like six, seven years ahead of me, And considering I played like the best stretch I've ever played, Dahl was great because he was very like, he'd be like, hey, what do you want to run this week? And so I had a lot of say and we had been together in Cleveland and he knew what my strengths were. And I felt very free, you know, playing for him.
Obviously, I played for Kyle Shanahan. Kyle's an incredible coach.
I learned so much from him about, you know, zone coverage and how to attack zone coverage. He was obsessed with that.
And so I learned a lot about that. I, he was also, you know, crazy about footwork and like the way you throw.
And, and when I first was with him in Cleveland, I noticed a difference in the way I was able to throw when I worked a lot of the footwork drills that he put me through. So those three guys, you know, would definitely be at the top of the list.
Good answers. When you were with Kyle Shanahan, were you like, I feel like the best quarterback ever? Because we obviously have a theory, nothing against Brock Purdy, but we've seen it.
Every time he has a quarterback, he brings the best out of the guys. Yeah, Kyle does a great job of scheming and game planning, and his offense makes it simple for the quarterback.
And I think for me, when we could run and play action, it was super – like you said, I felt great. I was a starter at Cleveland.
Even though San Francisco didn't work out, I had a lot of good games out there, too. And he definitely puts the quarterback in a great position to succeed.
Yeah. Yeah.
So out in Vegas after week one, Max Crosby was being interviewed. He said that Jimmy Garoppolo is a dog.
He said Jimmy G is a dog. Would you agree? Is Jimmy G a dog? Jimmy's awesome.
Oddly enough, you know, the first time I ever met him was at the Derby after we won the Super Bowl because Tom kind of has this crew that goes to the Derby. And that was even though we had traded places, he went to San Francisco.
I went back to New England. That was the first time I ever met him.
And so getting to work with them, like you just see why this guy's a winner. He brings the same mentality every day.
And he guys gravitate to him. He's got that winning personality.
I think you saw it in week one when we played, you know, some tough situations and he ends up, you know, closing out the game, scrambling on a play. He's not known for being a scrambler, you know, gets the first down slides and you could just see, you know, why this guy is a winner in the NFL.
Yeah. Do you ever catch yourself just staring at him being like, damn, he's so hot.
Cause is so hot. He is a handsome guy.
Yeah. I know Chicago native.
Yeah. I met him once and he took my breath away.
I was like, holy fuck. Like, it's true.
You are the hottest guy ever. You're looking to.
Yeah. If I were you, I would not introduce my wife to him.
So far, I think he's looking for wives. I think he's who's your favorite guy to back up, not Tom Brady? We'll take Tom Brady out of this.
Jacoby Brissett. Okay.
We're a big Jacoby Brissett podcast. Yeah.
Yeah, I was talking with Josh. This guy's hilarious.
You talk about a dog, people who love him. I mean, you see the respect like the Browns showed him.
A guy came back for a preseason preseason game and they had like a, the billboard for him, like, welcome back to Kobe. We miss you.
Like this guy is one of the best guys that I've ever been around. He's hilarious.
My kids love him. Um, you know, he, he, people gravitate towards him the same way that, you know, they gravitate towards Jimmy.
Um, I love, I love being with Jimmy too, but Jacoby and I just had a bond and, and, you friendship and he's always sending me texts and making me laugh. I mean, he's a great guy.
Yeah. Backing up Tom Brady, I would imagine it would be easy kind of because you know that he's probably going to play and you're not going to have to get in too much for him.
But at the same time, trying to absorb anything that he's trying to teach since he's on such a different level than everybody else in terms of experience, what he's accomplished, the way he sees the game, all that stuff. Is there something about his game that you were actually able to emulate that made you a better quarterback? I mean, there's so much just being around him day in, day out for so many years.
You kind of pick up certain things that he does and try to incorporate them in your game. I think the thing about Tom is, you know, first and foremost, he's a great person.
He's a great leader. And he knows which guy, he knows that he could be hard on Julian, but he's got to take it a different route with someone else.
You know, he was, no one was harder on Julian than Tom. I remember because we, Julian and I came in together as rookies and I'll never forget, like Wes would run a route and Tom would throw it.
He'd be like, good job, babe. And then Julian would do the exact same steps.
And he'd be like, Julian, what the fuck? You know I told you to do this. And Julian would walk back and be like, I did it the same.
I did it the same. But it paid off.
You know what I mean? He earned Tom's trust. And then I remember with Gronk's like he'd keep Bronc out there.
And for like 40 minutes throwing extra routes. And I think what I learned the most from Tom is you always have to put in the most work so that other guys see you do like, they can't question what you're doing.
And if they see you doing it, everybody kind of rises to that level. And I think that's what built such a great culture there was it not, was not just guys like Tom, but like the Brewskis, the Vrabels, you know, the guys that we learned about.
And then the kind of the crew that I came in with was like Julian and Devin and Hightower. And it was always kind of cool for me because I kind of left when it was still like those older guys.
And then I came back and now, you know, Matt Slater and McCourty and Julian and Hightower were like the older guys and they had kind of continued on that that tradition of like look no one's gonna outwork us it's hard as shit here you know you come in every day bill makes it as hard as possible but it's the grind that kind of brings us all together and you know i always loved the locker room there was always the tightest knit locker rooms i've ever been in because i think we all suffered together through the meetings, through like, you know, you go into the meeting with Bill and it's like

a 40 minute low lights. You'd like when those lights go off, you're like, fuck, like what play

did I mess up yesterday? That's going to be on this low light. And I think it created this bond

between us. Like, I mean, I was as close with the defensive backs, the defensive line as I was,

the receivers, the offensive line. And, you know, I think that showed in the way that, you way that we played.
So this is going to be a hard question. You've backed up both of them.
Who's hotter, Jimmy G or Tom Brady? You got to go with the OG. Yeah.
Tommy? I think it's Jimmy G. I mean.
I think he's more handsome. Jimmy G is.
I don't know if I'd say hotter. Jimmy G is hotter.
Jimmy G is hot. Tom Brady is like.
Yeah. Handsome.
he's a strapping man. Yeah.
A strapping fellow. I mean, they're both good looking guys.
I got nothing. I don't hold a candle to either of them.
So you got nice hair. I'm bald.
Like, I just try to have a nice beard, you know? All right. So this is a dumb question, but I would love to get some insight.
We obviously watch a ton of football. You see different quarterbacks struggling, younger quarterbacks struggling.
What do we as fans not understand about the position that is difficult to like convey to people? Like this is what we're seeing it one way. This is how they're seeing it.
And that's where the disconnect is. I mean, it's hard.
Look, it's, it's, it's, it's the reason why they say it's the hardest position in sports there's so much variables that are going on you every year you're on a new team essentially because no no team ever stays the same so you got to learn new guys every year you're going against new teams and they got new guys different scheme and you know i saw something i think albert breer wrote about it today and it said you know offenses are struggling early in. And he goes, is it is the lack of time in the off season and the lack of pads starting to catch it up? And I look, I'm, I'm old.
I remember two a days off seasons that lasted four or five months. And, you know, now there's, there's less time.
And so is it, you know, is it going to take offenses longer to get going? Is it take younger guys to get more reps in games to get going? I don't know if that's the case. I know that we used to do a lot more work, that's for sure.
Yeah, yeah. And then what about in terms of the argument always comes up, like play calling versus quarterback play.
How much do you think it is when you're criticizing a quarterback or like this guy's not playing well right now? How much do you think is play calling and how much do you think it is the quarterback play I mean hard to tell I mean it could be the thing that I've realized because I've played a lot of different offenses is you know sometimes like I'll watch someone play I'm like what is that guy doing but then I realized like you don't know how they're being coached because I've been coached so many different ways there's some systems where the quarterback's responsible for a lot there's some systems where he's not. So like the play comes in and he's just told to run the play.
And I've been on offenses like that. And you look and you're like, man, in our scheme, we would never want to do that, but maybe that's how they're being coached.
So I always kind of look at it. Like you, you don't fully understand the full picture.
And then there's also like, man, did the guy run the right route? Was he at the right depth? Like there's the one thing about football is there's so many variables on every given play.

And there's 11 people working together.

And I've always said this, like offensively, if one guy messes up, it can ruin the whole play.

Defensively, if one guy falls down, does the wrong thing, if he's away from the play, you'll never know it.

Right.

And so I think, you know, as fans, when you're watching, there's a lot of things that go into football that maybe you miss and you don't see. Like there's plays where the left, you know, I'm just referencing over the years, like there's plays where the left tackle does the wrong thing, but the quarterback throws the ball quick enough, it's in a touchdown.
But there's times where the left tackle does the wrong thing, and the quarterback gets blown up, and it's a strip sack, and it's seven points the other way, and it's that little variable right there that, you know, it just shifts the game. And I think, like you said, like, you know, what's going on? I think there's less work.
There's new teams, and defenses are good, man. Like, there's no slouches in the NFL.
You have to bring your A game every week, or you can get beat by any team in the NFL. It's just the way it is.
Yeah. Do you think that quarterback play has gotten significantly better since you've gotten into the league? I mean, there's a lot of young talented guys.
Like we just, you know, we played Josh Allen this week. I watched that guy.
I'm like, God, I wish I could play football like him. Yeah.
You know, he's six, five. He's got a rocket arm.
He's, he's running over people. He's juking guys.
You look at guys like Pat Mahomes. These young guys, they have so much talent, and then there's talent around them, and then it's like basketball.
I don't know. You look at the generation.
Obviously, Tom just retired, but Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger. That was an era of great quarterback play for a long time.
And now you look at it's kind of shifting to these other guys. And, you know, I think the one thing when you look at the college game, you know, they throw the ball.
When I was in college, we were in like the I formation and ran the ball. And now you look at quarterbacks coming to the league.
They've thrown so much in college that, you know, throwing the ball is to learn how to pass game in the NFL. And a lot of these guys are already running pro concept, pass concepts in college.
Yeah. Yeah.
You mentioned the Bills game. You guys stayed at the Greenbrier leading up to the Bills game.
Usually teams do that. I thought we just missed you guys had a golf outing there.
Yeah. It's usually back-to-back, right, on the East Coast.

If you're a West Coast team, you stay at the Green Bar.

You guys actually went out there ahead of time.

Why did you decide to do that?

I think we were playing 1 p.m. Eastern, which is 10 a.m.
for us out here on the West Coast.

So I think that ability to kind of acclimate to the Eastern time zone,

so you're not going to – if you think about a 10 a.m. game, you usually get to the stadium three hours before the game.
That's at 7 a.m. Like usually, you know, I'm just getting up at six out here.
So, you know, I think it was an idea of going out there, acclimate to the time zone. And that way, when you woke up on Sunday morning, it didn't feel like you were going to play a game at 10 a.m.
Yeah. We're trying to figure out what goes on at the Greenbrier because it's like a secret government facility.
Yeah. Teams are – what happens at the Greenbrier? Spill the beans.
I mean, we practiced all week, and obviously it's a historic place. I know a few of the guys went and did – like there's a bunker tour.
I guess they built this bunker during the Cold War in case something happened. They'd have a place for everybody in D.C.
to go to. I didn't end up going there and checking it out.
But, you know, like you said, it seems like there's a storied history there. Yeah.
I have to ask you one Big Ten question. Hank actually was a Michigan State fan on Saturday.
He's doing a different school every week. Not the best day to do that.
Toughest place to play in the Big Ten. I'm going to go with Penn State.
That's good. That place.
Look, Ohio State is ridiculous, but it's kind of surrounded by the city. When you are driving to the stadium at Penn State, you're kind of like out in this middle of nowhere.
There's like this huge erector set and you get in there. And I think two out of the three times I played there was like a whiteout and one was the last game of the season.
And whoever won was going to the Rose Bowl we got we got smacked man I mean that's a tough hostile environment to play yeah yeah all right that's a good answer White House looks or the Whiteout looks so good at night too oh that's what it was my senior year my last Big Ten game was their senior day Whiteout winner goes to the Rose Bowl and it did not go well for the Spartans that day yeah but you beat Michigan your last year I did I did yep that's I mean I look the Big House is is a historic place but it's not go well for the Spartans that day. Yeah, but you beat Michigan your last year.
I did. I did.
Yep. I mean, look, the big house is a historic place, but it's not a very hostile environment.
Those fans kind of sit on their hands, and especially if it's not a close game, like we played my senior year, it doesn't get very loud. Yeah.
Compared to Ohio State or Penn State. I like to talk that shit, champ.
It is a fact. It's 100,000 people at the opera.
That's what they say. It's all the noise goes out.
Right. It is kind of shaped like this.
Yeah. I mean, those other places are vertical.
I think even Spartan Stadium can get louder than Michigan Stadium at times. Yeah.
I want to talk about maybe the greatest play that never was when you were on the Browns. You threw an absolute dime to Johnny Manziel.
It was a trick play. It at the time when when there was a lot of chatter in the media about how Johnny was fitting in whether or not he was you know rubbing the coaches the wrong way he gets into a fake fight with Kyle Shanahan on the sidelines who then sends him up the field you throw a missile to him takes it like 40 yards I think there was like an illegal procedure or something on the offense but at the the time, what was it like when you decided to install that play? Was Kyle like, listen, everyone thinks that I hate you right now.
So it'd be a good idea if we pretended to get into a fight. I don't, I don't know if it was so much like, I hate you.
I think it's like, you're going to come over and I'm going to act like I'm yelling at you to cause this distraction. And I remember that play, you know, we even practiced like the whole rotation and practice like, okay, Johnny's going to go in.
And if it's this scenario, then we're going to send it back in and it's going to be, and the running back was supposed to stay on the field, but he didn't get like the call. I forget what happened, but basically I was in the pistol, so I couldn't see him behind me.
And I thought he was set and he thought he had to be on the right side of me. It just, it was a legal procedure, but I thought it was one of the greatest, you know, schemed up plays that there ever were.
Yeah, it really was. What's, what's the best throw you've ever made? We'll put it on a clip and we'll be like, Brian Hoyer was different.
We'll do, we'll do one of those like a Twitter videos, but like fucking Brian Hoyer highlights. Let me think.
There was a few throws when I played in Chicago that were good. There was one I threw to Cam Meredith.
I mean, I don't know if you remember him. Yeah.
And it was against Dallas and he ran like this shake route and it was like a high nap. We call it nap, like a, like a back shoulder throw in the middle of the field.
And it was more like, I thought like, wow, what a route by this guy. I'm gonna start throwing him the ball a lot more.
Um, there were some ones in Cleveland where I rolled out left and had a you know Kyle has that rollout program where you throw it back to the right there was one I threw there to Jim Dre that was pretty good um you know I don't know I mean it's it's a weird thing like when you're so like in the moment I I don't remember I'd have to think back, each year, what did I do? I threw a Hail Mary for a touchdown in Houston. That was pretty cool.
A few balls to DeAndre Hopkins there. I mean, sometimes the receiver makes the throw, you know? Yeah.
So, you know, I've had a few, but. Was that against the Jaguars, the Hail Mary? It was against the Colts.
Okay. Yeah.
They've had a couple of good Hail Mar down there. Is there an art to throwing pass interference? Like, do quarterbacks think to themselves, I'll put a little extra air in it, the quarterbacks coming out of position, and then boom, that's an easy 30 yards downfield.
I mean, there's definitely times where you go in and say, like here we have Devontae Adams. So kind of similar like when I was in Houston with DeAndre Hopkins.
You just want to give him a chance to go up and touch the ball because you know if he can touch it, he's probably going to catch it. And if he can't, if they're not letting him touch it, then you're getting that 30 yards right there.
No doubt. I mean, there was definitely, I don't know if it's an art.
It's more like when you have a receiver that's that good, we always just say, just let him touch the ball somehow, some way. Don't overthrow him.
Don't underthrow throw him throw it to the point where he's going to go up and either he's going to catch it because they're that good or the db is going to run through him and it's going to be 30 yards anyways yeah we always say on this podcast if you touch if you touch it you can catch it that's a fact that's a fact um all right so i have one last question this has been awesome we appreciate you joining us brian my last question Roback question RHOBACK.com promo code

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bad memory

but it's not about that your Texans

year where you went to the playoffs

when you clinched to go to the playoffs

did you even have like

a second where you thought you weren't going to be playing

at the first Saturday game that they

just made the Texans game every year

Thank you. When you clinched to go to the playoffs, did you even have like a second where you thought you weren't going to be playing at the first Saturday game that they just made the Texans game every year? Or were you like, all right, let's go.
We know when this game is going to be played. Yeah, no, I mean, that was more like, man, like this is exciting.
I'm a starter. I'm in the playoffs.
Obviously, like you said, bad memory. It was probably the worst game I've ever played in my entire sporting career, going back to, like, Little League.

Oh, geez.

And I was just thrilled to be playing in the playoffs.

Were you awesome in Little League?

I was pretty good, yeah.

I mean, I think anybody who's made it to the NFL is probably, like, the best in every league that they've been in.

Yeah.

That's probably the way it goes.

Yeah.

What was your best?

How many touchdowns was your best high school game?

Definitely four. I mean, I remember I threw, a 90 98 yard touchdown pass in high school.
I mean, I went to a pretty historic high school in Cleveland. So there's there's a lot of great players that have come out here.
I mentioned Dave Ragone and and, you know, I was up there with a lot of the records and stuff like that. But, you know, for me, it was always about winning a state championship, which I never did as a starter.
And my school's won 12 of them. So I always feel like I left that place with a little bit of unfinished business.
Yeah, but you're a Super Bowl champ. I would also like to find some, like, old school Brian Hoyer highlights from when you were, like, I don't know, 12, 10 years old, maybe.
Like in Pop Warner football. I can find them.
I'll hit my dad up, see if I can send them to you. Yeah, hit up, Ax.
Brian Hoyer, Adrian Peterson, two best, like yeah early high school highlights that we've ever seen we've ever seen yeah one of you want to know like you talk about like were you good in little league like i used to be able to run past people and i'm like one of the slowest guys on the team now like that just shows you like when in little league like i was like running quarterback sweeps for for 50 yard touchdowns now like you're running like a five flat so yeah and even the offensive the NFL, they're running like 5-0-40s, which is terrifying. Yes.
Yeah, it's crazy. So my last question, you've had a great career.
Hopefully it extends as long as you want it to, but then you probably are at that stage where you're thinking about what you want to do next. It sounds like you'd probably be a good coach.
Have you thought about getting into coaching? No. I just look at the hours these guys put in and actually you're sitting here, like my two kids are sitting in here with me.
Like I want to be able to spend time with them. And so I'd rather do something like what you guys are doing than coach and just kind of use that knowledge and, you know, educate people.
And it's funny, you know, I talked to Josh Drew and we mentioned Jacoby Brissett. Like he and I kind of have this podcast idea that, you know, we've been kind of cooking up and I think it'd be fun.
You know, like I mentioned how funny he is and through all of our experiences. I mean, look, he's been a starter.
He's been a backup. And, you know, so I think we have something there that we could work out too.
But I think I could be a good coach. I just don't really have the desire to do it.
Well, a little tip for you if you get into podcasting. You probably don't realize this because you're an NFL quarterback, but a lot of sitting, a lot of sitting.
Yeah. Yeah.
We sit a lot. So maybe get those like those treadmill desks or something.
Yeah. I'm just saying, no, no, no, no, no.
You got to sit and do nothing. So it's not for like guys can't handle this type of rigorous lack of activity.
It's definitely a change in, in, uh, you know, direction, you know, so it'd have to be, you know, a little bit preparation. Our body, our bodies have gotten so hard from not doing shit for the last seven years.
Yeah. It's a one.
It looks really comfortable though. Yeah.
It actually, it's very small. And I bet you, I bet you when you sit down and watch, try to watch eight NFL games at the same time, it's not going to be easy.
It's not easy. It's true.
Trying to watch it all at the same time. But you know what's funny is like my wife, the drives are nuts.
But like I actually love football. So like when I get home from our game sometimes, like I throw the Sunday night game on and I want to see who's playing because I actually I enjoy watching it.
And I feel like it's something that you can always learn from. Like there's times where I've seen like a play that's being run and be like, okay,

tomorrow I got to go check the coaches tape and see like how they did that.

So,

you know,

I do love the sport.

It's treated me really well.

And I'm sure that whatever I do will have something to do with football.

Yeah.

I mean,

we gave JJ Watt a warning when he retired.

We said,

you're not ready to watch all the football that we watch.

He was so excited to do it.

It took two weeks of him watching football to be like,

it's impossible to do. This is very hard to do.
It like thank you jj yeah it's not easy i saw i saw him tweeted that out he said you know it's hard to watch eight games at once yeah we're and listen we're around this i think you're 37 we're pft and are both 38 bounce back is not the same monday mornings are tough for me it's hard to get out of bed i know what it's like's like to play in the league. My body feels like it's been a car crash every Sunday.
Five slices of pizza on a Sunday and drink three rupees. Yeah, every Monday morning I'm like, how am I going to do this again? Then by Sunday I'm like, all right, let's go.
You're ready to go. It's just like us.
You take your shots on Sunday. By the time Thursday, Friday, Saturday rolls around, you're ready to go again.
Yeah, we're manning the arena right now. Yeah, yeah.
All right. That's right.
Brian, thank you so much, man. This has been really, really fun.
Yeah, and we'd love to have you back on anytime, so I appreciate it. All right.
Sounds good. Thanks, guys.
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Some of you guys sleep on sam how i sleep on a sleep number okay we now welcome on uh sam howell from the washington commander's very special guest it is one question with the quarterback we're not going to do this every week but we will do it when it pops up we appreciate sam joining us sam i think you know how this works we all get one question. I actually have a second one from Hank who's not here.
He's golfing right now. So one question with a quarterback with Sam Howell, Washington Commanders, starting quarterback 2-0.
I'll start. My question is when it comes to listening to what the media says, do you ever take into account people who are saying like you suck, but they're doing it because they're talking from a place of hurt and lashing out about their own team sucking? Does that does that do you give that a pass if someone's like, oh, Sam Howell sucks, but really they're just in pain because their own team and own quarterback sucks, hypothetically speaking? I mean, I mean, obviously, I don't pay too much attention to it um but i mean everyone has an opinion everyone's entitled to their own opinion but uh there is a lot of people out there that are frustrated with their own teams and like to take it out on on other teams but i'm a fan too so i i understand it yeah uh but i don't pay much attention to it okay all right good yeah because like it'd be crazy if people did that and just tried to lash out and said you suck,

even though you don't suck.

Hypothetically.

Hypothetically.

If they were hurt just because they expected great things from their own quarterback.

Right.

Hurt people hurt people.

Yeah.

That's the saying.

Right?

Yeah.

No, I hear you.

Who's your favorite team?

The Bears are doing really well this year.

They'll figure it out, man.

Justin's a good player, man. They'll figure it out.
Okay. Yeah.
that's nice of you to say. I've never said a bad word about you.
Sam, my first question is not really – well, I'll just start with a statement. I love you.
Thank you. And then my actual question is have you gotten to shake Josh Harris' hand yet? Because I saw the bad tape that went out on Monday Night Football earlier this season, and Joe Buck kind of entrapped him into a weird handshake where he just kind of put his hand in Josh's chest.
And of course, Josh is a nice guy, so he's going to shake his hand. But from a guy that I assume you've shaken his hand, can you tell us what his actual handshake is like? Oh, it's great.
It's exactly what you'd expect. He's a great dude, man.
Yeah, I I've been around a few times um no that clip was funny man they they did him dirty with that one yeah um he's a good man um he comes around a lot um which uh is cool for us to see we see the owner all the time and he's in the locker room after games every single game he's at every game um so it's just it's a fun time to be a part of his organization but Josh has been awesome. So it's just, it's an exciting time to be a part of this franchise.
I agree. I agree.
Yes. All right, Jake.
Hey, Sam, Jake Marsh, part of my take podcast. Thank you for joining us today.
So your documented diet has gone viral. You've never had a burger or steak.
So I'm not going to ask you again about that. I am going to ask you what will it take in terms of football success this season for us to get you to have a burger or steak.
So I'm not going to ask you again about that. I am going to ask you, what will it take in terms of football success this season for us to get you to have a burger or steak? Oh, good question.
That's a great question. Great question.
If we win the Superbowl, I'll have a steak. Yeah.
With us, with us, we'll, we'll, we'll dine on, we'll feast on steak together. Medium rare plus.
Y'all have to take me to the best steak in the world, wherever y'all think the best, whoever has the in the world that's where we'll go okay yeah south america yeah we'll go to argentina together that's a long trip for a steak then when i take when i take one bite for y'all and i don't like it y'all can't do that okay that's fine that's fine you will like it you'll love it you'll love it uh max hey sam max here producer of part of my take podcast um i know you're not playing the eagles this, but I just want to know if you've seen any tape on Jalen Carter and if you're scared. Yeah, the tape hasn't come up on the Eagles yet.
It's coming. I'm not even sure when we play the Eagles.
But, yeah, man, I'm sure he's doing a good job. He's a heck of a player.
So I'm excited for the matchup. Okay.
Great answer, Sam. That's a great answer.
That was a dirty question by Max right there. That was a dirty question.
Max is supposed to be a question about Sam or the commanders, not about your division. Yeah, you got to be ready for it.
You got to be on top of it. All right.
Last question is from Hank. This is Hank's question.
Not me. This is Hank.
In 2021, Big Cat tweeted, i'm a sam howell guy i love him with that said weight question mark because you had a picture that your face looked really fat um and then you replied i'm a big cat guy i love him with that said weight uh do you think that big cat actually is fat that was kind of mean of you well does big cat think that i'm fat that picture yes you looked fat it was just a bad angle like bad angles happen yeah well there has been some bad angles of you or you do look kind of fat as well okay all right fair this is hank's question by the way that's like that was a bad picture that's a good looking guy no you are a very good looking guy what's funny is like i was literally just telling um sean our media guy here just i was telling him about that interaction on twitter i was like yeah they're definitely gonna bring that up it was i i rarely am i surprised with uh like something coming back at me and like you know backfiring because i usually can sense like i'll lob it up so that i it can backfire on purpose that one i was like fuck he's right that's that's shocking for you to be like, wow, his face looks kind of fat in this picture and not expect. That's like, wow, this guy looks kind of short in this picture.
Yeah, I'm a big Sam Howell guy. I loved watching you at UNC.
It was a lot of fun. It's a face designed to absorb contact.
Yeah, yeah. That was a bad picture, though, you have to admit.
I think it was maybe the- Yeah, I don't remember the picture, but it might have been bad yeah yeah i've worked on my i've worked on my figure since then yeah you got a nice jaw jawline right now all right do you have one question for us i do okay i do but if y'all could play any position on any team in sports what position and what team would it be well that's a good question i would like to be i i've said this before but i would like to be the Kentucky Derby winning horse wow yeah it would be awesome because you just you run one race and then you don't have to work ever again and then the rest of your life you're just having sex I will say when I thought of this question I was not expecting that response yeah it'd be good I shouldn't expect it I would like to be maybe a middle reliever for, like, the San Diego Padres. That seems like a pretty good life.
Like, no media scrutiny. A great life.
Yeah. Just hang out, pitch every few days, play a lot of golf.
Like, your team probably is going to suck. Who cares? You're doing your job.
That feels like a good spot to be in. Yeah.
Yeah. It's not bad.
It's certainly not a bad place to be. Guar bad right right uh jake yeah in my childhood it was shortstop for the new york yankees

oh a lot of pressure you can handle it that's too much pressure yeah but i can fill jeter's shoes

oh okay yeah i don't think so uh max uh pinch hitter that comes in and tries to hit bombs

That was always my life goal Wait what about you Sam?

Me?

Yeah

Oh, actually. So you covered that one.
Yeah. He absolutely did.
It's a good life. It's a good life.
All right, well, Sam, thank you so much. Best of luck the rest of the season.
Hopefully we see you. We'll get you back on for a longer interview.
But thanks for doing one question with the quarterback. It's pretty fun, right? Yeah, for sure.
And I appreciate you guys having me on. Let's do it again.
Yeah, we'll see you after we win the Super Bowl. Left hand up, Sam? Yeah, we're going to get left hand up.
We're going to go to South America. There we go.
Left hand up. All right.
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Yeah, I've been eating a lot of Uncrustables too. Oh, the Uncrustables, so good.
It's really the perfect meal. They're too small.
No, you have one as a snack. Like four bites.
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This took this new girl out on a date and got all-inclusive at the Cardinals game. Clearly flexing.
Is that a flex? It really depends on if you're talking baseball or football. St.
Louis? I think both aren't a flex. Yeah, neither one.
I think that's the opposite of a flex, right? Yeah. All-inclusive? That's a lot of farts.
Yeah. You're going to fart a lot.
No, babe. These hot dogs are free.
No, yeah, yeah. No, no, the best part is you can just keep going back for the chicken fingers.
No, you don't have to tip. Yeah.
Well, it's a good illusion. She was right behind me in the buffet line, and after two full plates of nachos, I couldn't control my fart.
Oh, called it. So it took out half the line, including the girl behind me, who was 5'1".
It's the truth, dude.

If you go to all-inclusive for the baseball game, it's fart city.

That's all you're going to do for the rest of the day.

You just eat so many things.

Wait, what do they mean it took out a girl who was 5'1"?

He's probably a tall guy, so he's probably...

Oh, right at ass level.

Yeah, ass to face.

I said he blamed it on the kid that was standing in front of him. Oh, okay.
Smart. But we know it was you.
Also, just blame it on the buffet. The guy in front of him was definitely fat, too.
Yeah, dude. You always blame it on the fat guy.
Yeah, he always just points to the fat guy. But yeah, when you do the all-you-can-eat at a baseball game, oh my God, by the third inning, I'm a toxic wasteland.
It rules, though. And then the dessert cart comes.
Maroon. Jake from Blacksburg.
Oh, hey, Jake. I was serving food to an old family friend who was eating with his elderly blind dad.
This already sounds like a movie. As I was saying bye, B-U-Y, to them, I attempted to shake the father's hand.
Did you just spelling shame him? Oh, he's trying to trip me up. By and by? Yeah.
All right. How would you have pronounced it if it was B-Y-E? I don't know.
I attempted to shake the father's hand just out of habit and as I was holding my hand in front of him while he was just staring into blank space space whoa as I pulled my hand back up he sensed it and raised his hand up and I left him hanging completely embarrassed and continued to avoid them to this day that's like the old story of Shaq and Stevie Wonder when they met each other I think Shaq waved at him Stevie Wonder I think sensed it and waved back i think that's these things happen you just gotta rectify it as fast as possible yeah yeah i i've had those moments before where it's like yeah you you just you you make a mistake you say something to a blind person you're like wait shit that was stupid it's not the first time they've heard it. No, definitely not.
Oh, this is tough. Okay.
Been dating my girlfriend for a few months now, and Saturday went to our first wedding together. She was the maid of honor, and I was the plus one.
After slugging multiple cocktails when I'm more of a beer guy, I ran into the bride's grandmother and told her how great the wedding was and how much they looked alike. I could tell right away you were her grandmother.
Her response, I'm not her grandmother. It was actually her mother.
Oh, no. That is so bad.
You should just leave. You need to leave.
Yeah, you got to break up. It's not going to work.
You got to change your phone.

You got to change your address.

She's going to change your social security.

Sabotage you.

She's going to be the mother-in-law from hell.

Yeah, you need a new life.

You need everything.

No, it's not his girlfriend's mother.

Oh, that's right.

It's her girlfriend's best friend's mother.

Yeah, that's tough.

But still, that is, because that is, that woman is definitely in your girlfriend's life in some capacity. You just ruined her wedding.
Ruined her wedding. Her daughter's wedding.
Ruined her life. You should have tried to hit on her afterwards.
That was your only hope. Yeah, you should have been like, I'm actually, I said grandmother because I'm into, I'm like PFT.
I'm into grandmother. Just neg the shit out of her.
Oh my God. That is, that's one of those ones too.
30 years from now, it will randomly just pop in your head. Like, remember I said that.
Yeah, and you're going to cringe. You're going to turn red.
Oh, man. So she wasn't that hot.
Or very hot. Sounds like she was hot.
Well, no. I mean, she was hot.
Maybe hot, but older. Yeah.
Yeah. That's okay.
Maybe, you know what? Get her a gift card to a plastic surgeon. Yeah, that'll be'll be nice Yeah Get those crow's feet out Last one I was on a work call With my camera off And thought my mic was muted Until I realized it wasn't I was farting the whole time Yeah I got a couple in And then as I was scrolling On my phone I noticed a pause And my boss asked Who was making the fart noises I didn't say a word And muted my mic right away do you think people know it was me so the the camera to me isn't the worst part it's the microphone that you're worried about right yeah but the camera could be bad because you're lifting your leg yeah and you maybe even sniffing it you should have just gone like started making fart like yeah me sorry i think that i think that's hilarious so i'm sorry i realize I can't do that.
I'm so afraid of this that I triple check every time.

Yeah.

When you're on a Zoom call, you don't want to get tubed.

No.

It's the worst thing to happen.

Just put a piece of duct tape over your video camera on your phone.

Yeah.

That's a tough one.

Although everyone farts.

Come on.

It's just guys.

Guys being dudes.

That was you, Hank?

That happened to?

No. Oh, I thought it was your Jimimbo because you take so many work calls so i thought maybe is something you want to tell us you're fart on work call before hank yeah obviously you ever fart on a work call and then submit uh the time you farted on a we're called to a to a podcast? No.
What's going on? I noticed that you read that one, the cleanest of all. Yeah.
It almost looks like it was from memory. Yeah.
You think Dave's doing work calls? I don't have a boss. Maybe E-Dog.
You don't have a boss? Big E. I mean, Dave is my boss, but he's not doing work calls.
Well, not when you're farting at him. He doesn't want to show up to that.
I fart all the time. I know.
I should have more shame about farting than I do. I agree.
When I'm around you guys, I just don't care. No, that's just us.
That's just love. It's usually just an improvement in the smell in the room if somebody farts.
Yeah, true. That's how bad the room usually smells.
Yeah, whenever someone's like, oh, I wonder what that room smells like. It's always bad.
It's worse than anything. It's bad.
Okay. Friday.
What? Memes. Memes laughing in your face.
Friday, we will do the NFL preview week three. And we also have our good friend Brooks on because the boys are playing a little golf on Thursday.
Playing in the Pro-Am. Playing in the little Pro-Am.
I am nervous. I don't know what the spectator situation is going to be like.
Zero. No spectators.
At all? Yeah. Good, because we would probably send people to the hospital.
Yeah, for sure. With our bad shots.
For sure, for sure. Do we have to walk? Yeah.
Be good exercise. Who's going to caddy for us? Good question.
Who's caddy? Do we have caddies? We should get caddies. If we don't have caddies, I'm just only going to bring a driver.
Well, actually, no. I'm only bringing a driver.
I mean, you guys must have seen when you filled out the thing, right? Stop it with the paperwork. Corporate Hank and his farts.
When I filled that out that out it asks are you bringing your own caddy which would you would assume means they're providing them oh okay okay good would right yeah yeah yeah yeah hopefully you're gonna have to caddy for us hank if if there's no caddy all three bags uh well no we'll'll consolidate. Me and P.I.T.
will consolidate.

We'll be good guys.

Bring Jerry.

Yeah, we'll put it all in one.

We should go bully mode.

We should actually have Jerry bring PR caddy.

He's the worst caddy.

Yeah, that would be awesome.

Go watch the Ryder Cup.

Go watch the Ryder Cup.

Plug God.

Okay, numbers.

Three.

18.

We go 20. 99.
Numbers. Three.
18. I'm going to go 20.

99.

I'll go 69.

One.

Why are you saying yes?

Because he never gets one.

I didn't get one.

Oh.

Damn it.

All right.

See everyone on Friday.

I don't need no breaks.

Love you guys. I'm talking away.
I don't know what to say. I'd say it anyway.
Today is my day to find you shying away. I'll be coming for your love of me.
Take on me. Take me.
Take on me, take me on, take me on I'll be gone, and I'll take you on Something needless to say, I'll set it It about me, stumbling away, slowly learning that life is okay.

Say after me, it's no better to be safe than sorry.

Take on me.

Take on me.

Take me. me I'll be gone Let it do I'll be gone All the things that you say Is it life or it level? Just a day my worries away.
You're all the things I've got to remember. You're shying away.
I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on me.
Take on me. Take me.
Take me on Take me on Take me on Take me on Take me me Take on me Take me Take on me Turn on me. Take me.
Take me.

Take me.