Joakim Noah, NFL Week 2 Picks And Preview, Eagles Run It Down Vikings Throat + Fyre Fest Of The Year

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have our good friend Jokeem Noah back in studio. Great interview with him in person.
We're also going to do week three picks and preview. Fantasy fuckboys.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk some Eagles Vikings,

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, September 15th.
And boys, I'd like to announce something.

Speaker 1 The Minnesota Vikings are my pinky team. Okay.
All right. It's official.
It's official. They are not winning this.
I can't believe we got an early draw.

Speaker 1 Nowhere close. They're 0-2.

Speaker 1 And I actually thought Kirk Cousins played okay tonight.

Speaker 5 When he had time to pass. And when he didn't have time, he stunk.
But when he had time, I think all four of his touchdown passes were from like a relatively clean pocket.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was on his third left tackle, no center.

Speaker 1 The Eagles' defensive line is really, really fucking good. So, Kirk Cousins does not get the blame for this.

Speaker 1 The blame goes for the fact that the Minnesota Vikings couldn't stop anything in the run game.

Speaker 5 So, the Eagles had 259 yards rushing.

Speaker 5 They doubled up time of possession. It was 40 minutes to 20 minutes.
It was an ass-kicking. They could not stop anything.
They certainly couldn't stop the cheat play.

Speaker 5 Jalen Hurts get behind Jordan Milata's huge ass and just drive forward two yards. I say cheat play.
I'm kind of asterisk.

Speaker 5 I'll give the Vikings an asteris on this loss because they couldn't stop the cheat play. That play is awesome.

Speaker 1 Stop that. 259 yards

Speaker 1 is insane.

Speaker 5 And the Eagles have a running back now.

Speaker 1 And it was 5.4 yards per carry. It really did feel like every time they wanted to run the ball.
There was that one drive where I think it was 10-7 or maybe it was actually...

Speaker 1 Did the Vikings go up for? No, it was 7-3. And the Eagles were like, all right, we're not fucking around anymore.
And they just ran the ball, ran the ball, ran the ball right down the field.

Speaker 5 Do you think that the Eagles chose to start Gainwell because his name's Gainwell, and that's an awesome name for running back? That's a great name.

Speaker 5 Forgetting that the guy they had behind him was named Swift, which is also a very good name for running back. The Eagles have the two best running back names at the running back.

Speaker 1 And Boston Scott's a great name, too.

Speaker 5 It is, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They have great names.
Rashad Penny's a great name. They do have.

Speaker 5 They've got all the names.

Speaker 1 They have all the names. Yeah.
But yeah, this was.

Speaker 1 Listen, people know our

Speaker 1 piece with Kirk Cousins. This was not on him.
He was he had very little time, and he

Speaker 1 did everything he could to keep the Vikings in this game.

Speaker 5 It was through to Justin Jefferson a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Justin Jefferson is incredible. You want to do the insult stat?

Speaker 5 I don't want to do the insult. Do the insult.

Speaker 1 You want me to? Yeah, because people want to hear it.

Speaker 5 All right, so Justin Jefferson, fun stat about Justin Jefferson. He now has more receiving yards than any Bears wide receiver ever.
But the Bears haven't been playing football that recently, right?

Speaker 5 They're an expansion team.

Speaker 1 Well, they haven't been doing the forward pass since like Jay Cutler.

Speaker 5 Okay, so it's been, what, like over 100 years of Bears football?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 it's an insult stat. It hurts, but it also, like, every Bears stat, when you do wide receivers or quarterbacks, will always hurt.
It then did have us go down a Johnny Knox

Speaker 1 rabbit hole, which was nice because I love Johnny Knox. It sucked that his career ended that way.
But yeah, Justin Jefferson is incredible.

Speaker 5 Johnny Knox from From?

Speaker 1 The U. From? J.M.?

Speaker 1 I think Vanderbilt. I think it's Vanderbilt.
Earl Bennett was Vanderbilt as well.

Speaker 5 I think maybe I'm making that up.

Speaker 1 You might be thinking of Earl Bennett and Jay Cutler.

Speaker 5 That's embarrassing if I do a from and it's not right.

Speaker 1 I think you might be right, though. I think you might be right.

Speaker 1 Abilene Christian.

Speaker 1 You were thinking of Earl Bennett and Jay Cutler.

Speaker 5 Yeah, to be fair, I was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. You were thinking of that guy.

Speaker 5 I'm swearing off froms for the next.

Speaker 1 Because I was like, wait, do I know this? I was like, wait, I don't know this. It sounded like it was a,

Speaker 1 I don't know, a question where you knew

Speaker 1 some sort of connection. Yeah, it was, I know exactly where your brain was.
Jay Cutler, Earl Bennett. But yeah, Justin Jefferson is out of this world good.
Like some of the catches he was making,

Speaker 1 like the run after the catches he was making, he is so fucking good.

Speaker 1 And now, though, we have to ask ourselves, is he going to get to a point where he's like, I'd like to win because I'm one of the best, or if not the best, wide receivers in the the game.

Speaker 5 I thought what we saw tonight, Big Cat, was perhaps the emergence of two D.Va wide receivers.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Maybe Jefferson, maybe Brown.

Speaker 1 A.J. Brown, obviously.
AJ Brown.

Speaker 5 But it seems like maybe A.J. Brown's diva-ness is coming out because he realizes

Speaker 5 he's not him on the Eagles. Devontae Smith is.
Devontae Smith, despite the fact that he's got skinny legs.

Speaker 1 Also, great moment while we're watching the game. I think you mentioned you're like, did you see A.J.

Speaker 1 Brown going up to Jalen Hurts, Diva watch, and Max goes, yeah, but then Jalen Hurts Hurts threw him the ball four times straight.

Speaker 5 So you placated him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, that's exactly what a Diva received. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the ball tonight.

Speaker 5 And to be fair, we want Diva wide receivers. We miss Diva wide receivers.
Oh, you need.

Speaker 1 It's good. Yeah.

Speaker 5 AJ Brown's phenomenal. And also, Justin Jefferson kind of has a case.
He's the best receiver of the football right now. It would be nice if he won some games.

Speaker 1 It would suck to be that much better than everyone else and be like, why are we 0-2?

Speaker 5 Yeah, and after the Kirk Cousins experience in Minnesota, who knows who he's going to get to play with next? So I see that.

Speaker 1 Again, not Kirk's fault tonight. Not his fault.

Speaker 1 We're not going to fault people to think that we'll just be like, oh, primetime Kirk, not his fault.

Speaker 5 No, this was not primetime Kirk.

Speaker 1 He did have the fumble.

Speaker 5 The fumble was bad.

Speaker 1 But then he had no time.

Speaker 1 Like, Kirk, we've said this many times, but Kirk, when his offensive line sucks and he's on the road and the defensive line is down his throat, he looks like he's like five feet tall.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so I actually pulled up a stat. This is next-gen stats.
That's how deep we're getting into the technology here.

Speaker 5 Kirk Cousins threw four touchdown passes in rhythm, which is between two and a half and four seconds against the Eagles, tied for the most such TDs in a game in the next-gen stats era.

Speaker 5 I would imagine there's a few players that have four touchdowns, but that's the most. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, he was not bad tonight.

Speaker 5 And since, oh, this is fun. Since 2016, he's thrown 114 touchdown passes in rhythm, 15 more than any other player.
Kirk Cousins,

Speaker 5 avid subscriber to the rhythm method.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
Yeah. He is all in on it.

Speaker 1 if he's got good protection it would probably help out a little bit max you are the star of the show today yeah so we haven't even gotten to that point but we can do a preview yeah so you people will have to trust us because we did tweet it out uh max later on in the show we little peel behind the curtain how we do our third our friday shows is thursday afternoon we do the majority of the show we do all the weekend preview we do the fire fest if we have an interview we'll do that so that way after the game all we have have to do is 15 minutes to start the show.

Speaker 1 During that, you'll hear it when we get to it, but Max nailed the score. And when I say nailed the score, he got it exactly correct.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that was cool. That was a cool moment.
And I saw it coming. I think like midway through the third quarter, I'm like, ah, there's a path here that I could nail this prediction exactly correct.

Speaker 7 And it was weird because I like wanted, I didn't want the Vikings to score, but I was like, it would be cool to have that in my, to have that clip of me just banging that score.

Speaker 5 You like whispered it. You were like, yo, the 3428 is alive right now.

Speaker 1 It's actually really alive. Saw it coming.
So, what do you think? The Eagles, defense, secondary, got work to do. Yeah.

Speaker 7 There's a lack of communication in the secondary right now.

Speaker 1 There has been

Speaker 6 like the hardest sense of words.

Speaker 5 He sounded like a play-by-play guy, or the color commentator.

Speaker 7 There's a lack of communication.

Speaker 1 These guys are

Speaker 1 not on the same page.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no.

Speaker 7 The past two weeks, I was watching an ex-video this week from Baldy, and he was talking about how last week there was just a bunch of blunders in the secondary, and guys were just wide open for absolutely no reason.

Speaker 7 And again, it happened the exact same thing tonight, but the D-line

Speaker 7 can help with a lot of those mistakes because every guy up in that front seven is just so good, as long as the turf is good, as long as the turf is good.

Speaker 5 I think you guys are down your top three corners now.

Speaker 5 Slay's healthy, slay's healthy. Yeah, Brad.

Speaker 1 You had to score a Gami injury.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but you're down. You're down.
Yeah, we had

Speaker 5 an injury Gami today. We had two Bradbury's out on opposite sides of the ball in the same game.
I'm going to venture to say that's never happened in the history of the NFL.

Speaker 5 But you guys have, I think, three cornerbacks are injured now. So that's going to be tough for you.
You still got Slay. Big play Slay.

Speaker 7 I think it's one corner,

Speaker 7 maybe two safeties, one linebacker.

Speaker 1 Max, I have another question.

Speaker 1 Play calling.

Speaker 8 Got better.

Speaker 7 It started off poor, but then once we realized that we could run the ball every single time,

Speaker 1 I'd agree with that.

Speaker 7 We just did the run-the-ball play.

Speaker 1 It felt like they were trying to get Jalen Hurts some running plays, but they all felt like kind of half-assed.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but you figured it out. I mean, it's a new offensive coordinator.

Speaker 7 It's early in the season. You don't want to be playing your best ball right now.
That's what I keep saying. You don't want to be playing your best ball.

Speaker 1 2-0 is 2-0.

Speaker 7 2-0 is 2-0. And you'll get better throughout the season.
New coaches got to get a feel for the guys. We'll be fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hank, thoughts on the game? Hawkinson.

Speaker 5 Hawkinson.

Speaker 6 He did it for you. Two touchdowns, seven receptions.

Speaker 1 Great game.

Speaker 1 That was a great recap.

Speaker 5 So, Max, you're out

Speaker 5 two cornerbacks now and a starting safety.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 James Bradbury, Reed Blankenship, and then you had another injury tonight.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 1 2-0 is 2-0.

Speaker 5 2-0 is 2-0. But the good news is the front seven is good enough.
Like, they're going to be able to get pressure on anybody.

Speaker 7 Whenever Jalen Carter's on the field, which isn't every drive, which makes me upset, I just watch. He's the only thing I watch.

Speaker 1 So, you actually are a little like

Speaker 1 it's getting a little homoerotic for yeah, no, it's great.

Speaker 7 I showed you that one played during the game. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 Also, we should say, Max, for people who are listening right now and they're like, hey, is this guy sick for like the seventh straight week? He is. He's going to see a doctor, though.

Speaker 7 Yeah, any Chicago doctors out there?

Speaker 1 Please help Max.

Speaker 5 Real doctors.

Speaker 7 Real doctors.

Speaker 5 Or vet. We could send you to a vet.

Speaker 1 Or vet.

Speaker 1 I feel like I'm your parent because I've been telling you to go to the doctor for the last two weeks.

Speaker 7 Yeah. No, it's not that bad.
It's just this. I've had a cough for six weeks now, and it just doesn't go away.

Speaker 1 And he keeps saying long COVID, and he already took antibiotics, and that did nothing.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so I went to the doctor. I took steroids, and then I went back to the doctor, and then they gave me antibiotics.
And it helped.

Speaker 7 My throat is fine. I just still have this cough.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so sad.

Speaker 7 I feel like I'm talking to a doctor right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, there'll be a doctor that will hit us up.

Speaker 5 It's like you're treating us like a therapist doctor. Like I've talked about my feelings.
I feel sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm just trying to do that.

Speaker 1 How many drinks a week do you have? Rats.

Speaker 1 Subjective.

Speaker 1 It's all right. Everyone lies to their doctor.
The one person in the world you shouldn't lie to.

Speaker 1 Really, the dumbest brain thing that men do. We're like, hey, this guy's here to help you.
And then you lie to him.

Speaker 5 The doctors know that, though. They know to multiply your drinks by five.

Speaker 1 But it's just such a funny concept where it's like yeah i'm gonna lie to my doctor yeah the one guy that you don't want to lie to have you ever been to a doctor where they don't put you on the scale but they ask you what your weight is yeah never give them the right weight no 6'3 215.

Speaker 1 you're like what's bothering you nothing i feel great

Speaker 1 like no this is the one time you should actually bitch

Speaker 1 um all right but yeah Eagles 2-0, Vikings 0-2, Vikings pinky team. I might add another pinky team.
We'll see how it goes, but they're not winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 No chance. No, there's no chance.
Although, I've got a future on the Vikings at 4,000 or plus 4,000. Okay.

Speaker 5 That's dead. Yeah.
I might as well just light that on fire.

Speaker 1 They're not.

Speaker 1 They've got too many defensive issues.

Speaker 5 Their defense stinks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And their offense, I mean, Justin Jefferson just,

Speaker 1 he's so fucking good.

Speaker 5 I thought their defense couldn't be any worse than last year. It might be.
Well, granted, they did play the Eagles tonight. That might mean that the Patriots are really good, Hank.

Speaker 1 It's just really tough when you get undressed in that manner in a pro football game where it's like, we're going to do this one thing and there's nothing you can stop.

Speaker 5 Absolutely nothing.

Speaker 5 I do love the cheat play. It might be cheating, but I love it.
No, it's a great thing.

Speaker 7 It's best playing sports.

Speaker 5 Jerry Jones. I can't believe Jerry Jones didn't ban that this offseason.
I thought for sure he would.

Speaker 1 He really wanted to.

Speaker 5 Put a pin in that. He'll do it next offseason.
Or AI Jerry Jones will do it.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let's kick it to ourselves weekend preview and you get to hear Max Dradamas and then we have Joe Kim Noah after that.

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Speaker 1 Week two, boys. I almost said week three, week two, because week three college football, week two.

Speaker 1 We're ready to find some things out.

Speaker 1 Just a general week two note I wanted to throw out there.

Speaker 1 Teams that lost by double digits are 39, 22, and one in week two.

Speaker 5 Yeah, this is the classic don't overreact, but we're going to overreact anyways.

Speaker 1 So that's the Panthers, the Bengals, the Steelers, the Seahawks, the Bears, and the Giants are all teams that fall under that category where they lost badly.

Speaker 1 And now you got to say to yourself, huh, who do I like this week? Is that real?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I made a little note today, and it was before I hadn't heard about that stat in particular, but it's the same mindset.

Speaker 5 If a team gets their ass kicked, if they were a favorite that gets their ass kicked in week one and then they're underdogs in week two, that's going to be a system play for me this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like it. I like it.
So we're going to do it how we did it last week. We're going to do it with the TV games, starting with, I think, the best game of the week.
It is Chiefs at Jags.

Speaker 1 What do you got?

Speaker 1 Oh, well, we'll do that when we do the picks at the end. Yeah, yeah.
Chiefs at Jags, I think that is... Sound.

Speaker 1 I'll give up Bears sound. I don't give a fuck.
Yeah, this seems like... We don't need to hear the Bears sound.

Speaker 5 I was looking through this slate, and it's like, if we weren't Bears and Commanders fans, those are probably the games that aren't going to be on TV this weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 5 Broncos, Commanders,

Speaker 5 Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 Broncos Commanders is late slate, so we'll have enough TVs.

Speaker 1 It would have been on the cut line. Bears would have been on the cut line, I think, officially, because there is a couple not great games.
But Jags, Chiefs will be center TV, sound.

Speaker 1 I'm so excited for this game. So there's a couple things, a couple thoughts I want to throw out there.
One is Andy Reid longer rest, which we all know.

Speaker 5 Hibernation. Hibernation.
He had a long rest before the Lions game, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. He had a very long rest, but Andy Reid off of a buy, mini-buy,

Speaker 1 because they played on Thursday.

Speaker 1 Last 20 years on eight or more days, he's 45, 35, and one against the spread and 56 and 25 straight up.

Speaker 5 Yeah, pretty good. And he's getting Chris Jones back, which is probably the biggest thing considering that I think the Jaguars have two offensive linemen that are down.

Speaker 5 One of them being Brandon Scherf, who's one of two all-pro players from the Washington franchise in the last like 40 years.

Speaker 1 Cam Robinson suspended for four games.

Speaker 5 Cam Robinson out. Chris Jones, who won the contract negotiation?

Speaker 5 Because I would say not Chris Jones.

Speaker 5 They said, okay, we'll take you back, and we'll give you some maybe potential more money and incentives if you have like 15 sacks this year.

Speaker 1 They also, I saw someone posted on Twitter that someone on Chiefs Reddit did a deep dive into Chris Jones' agents, and basically they don't have any players except Chris Jones.

Speaker 5 So they get all their time.

Speaker 1 So they were like trying really hard to get Chris Jones more money. But yeah, I'd say Chris Jones probably didn't win that, but I'm happy he's back.
He's fun to watch play football. Is Kelsey playing?

Speaker 5 I don't know because it seemed like he was going to try to play last week. So you would assume if he tried to play last week and it was coming down to the wire that he would play this week.

Speaker 1 Last week felt like a don't hold me back, bro.

Speaker 1 He was like, it was put out the report, I fought to try to play.

Speaker 5 Like

Speaker 5 a lot of emotion going into week one. Yeah.
There was a report that

Speaker 5 Taylor Swift is trying to tank the Chiefs season to make her Eagles win. That came courtesy TikTok some late on TikTok said.
That's a good report.

Speaker 1 I believe it. Also, Mahomes is an underdog or favorite of three or less, 19-6-6-1.
So I think it's three and a half now, so I guess that's outside of that.

Speaker 1 So I think that the Chiefs will have a very good game. I think they'll win this game.
The only thing that's popping in my head, and this is after doing a million shows all week, I was thinking about

Speaker 1 what year was it? It must have been 2019 when the Jaguars lost to the Patriots in the AFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 And I think week two, the Jaguars kicked the shit out of the Patriots in Jacksonville and won their Super Bowl week two.

Speaker 1 That makes me a little nervous that the Jaguars are like, oh, this is our Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 Miles Jack wasn't down.

Speaker 1 People forget

Speaker 1 out of the league.

Speaker 5 The Jaguars should have won that game. The Jaguars should have been in the Super Bowl.
Blake Bortles should have been in the Super Bowl. Versus Nick Foles.
Against Nick Foles.

Speaker 5 And tell me that Blake Bortles doesn't win that. Can you imagine?

Speaker 5 Can you imagine if Jaguar, if Jacksonville had a Super Bowl parade and Blake Bortles was up front, like driving a Silverado, just like cranking tunes and just chugging bush lights? Yeah.

Speaker 5 It would have been the best Super Bowl parade ever.

Speaker 1 That was the insult graphic that went around. Remember it?

Speaker 1 It was Bortles, Foles, Kirk Cousins, Tom Brady. Case Keenum.
Or Case Keenum. Right.
Thank you, Hank. Case Keenum and Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 It was like, Tom Brady didn't win this Super Bowl out of these four quarterbacks. I mean, tough.
I'm fucking Bortles, man.

Speaker 5 He should have been the Super Bowl MVP. So in this game, if the Jaguars beat the Chiefs in a shootout, the Super Bowl champs.
Will there be somebody that says a major passing of the torch moment

Speaker 5 from Mahomes to Trevor Lawrence? For sure. I've got my eye on a passing of the torch this weekend.
I might be jagging off.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this game makes me nervous because I probably will most likely bet the Chiefs. And I am a little nervous about the fact that the Jags, like,

Speaker 1 this will be kind of everything, and then it will be fade hard the Jags next week.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so the good news if you're a Jaguars fan, or I guess if you're a Chiefs fan, great news going into this week is that Kadarius Toney can't possibly play worse, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, no, he can. There's no chance.

Speaker 5 Oh, no, he can. I saw a stat that was like every time they attempted to pass Kadarius Toney the ball,

Speaker 5 the scoring differential was like 0.9 points minus.

Speaker 5 So they like lost a point every time they attempted to play.

Speaker 1 They would have won the game without him on the field. Yeah.
So I think, yeah, he could play worse. Why not?

Speaker 5 You think so?

Speaker 1 I think he's the only guy up for the challenge.

Speaker 5 He is. If anyone can do it, it's Tony.

Speaker 1 I believe in him. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'm excited for this game. That's all I wanted to say.
Me too. I'm very excited.
Nerd nugget. Nerd nugget.

Speaker 5 Real quick before Jake does his nerd nugget.

Speaker 5 Something to keep your eye on. Just an overall trend this year.
It's from last year. It looks like it's carrying over.

Speaker 5 Last year, there were 3,416 attempts of at least 15 yards downfield, right? So about 3,500 passes attempted that travel 15 yards downfield. That's the fewest in any season since 2006.

Speaker 5 And this year, so far, we're even behind that. It's only one week, but we're even behind last year, which was the lowest since 2006.

Speaker 5 Is the NFL

Speaker 5 taking passing out of the game of football?

Speaker 1 That might also, the Bears definitely skew those numbers.

Speaker 5 Well, the Bears also. Patty checkdowns, face-to-face.

Speaker 1 Patty checks down.

Speaker 5 Patty checkdowns. Well, he's becoming a running back now.
We'll see if Patrick Mahomes can learn to pass the ball like pocket thrower Trevor Lawrence, they might have a shot.

Speaker 1 Yes. I am worried about the Jags offensive line, though.
I think it's going to be Chris Jones. He's got something to prove.
He's got incentives to make.

Speaker 5 And he's, yeah, he's got incentives to make.

Speaker 1 He has to make these incentives to get his money.

Speaker 5 And he's off a mega buy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Huge, huge buy. All right, next up, another TV game.

Speaker 5 Wait, Nerd Nugget.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Nerd Nugget. Sorry.
Jaguars head coach Doug Peterson returns to Face Kansas City, where he served as Chiefs OC from 2013 to 15.

Speaker 1 He also was on the coaching staff with Andy Reid in Philadelphia from 2009 to 2012. Didn't you have a Doug Peterson nerd nugget last week? Is it just Doug Peterson's been on a lot of teams?

Speaker 1 Should we just make that the nerd nugget for the Jaguars? Was that not? Am I confusing? I'm not saying he did a bad job, but it was, I think it was Doug Peterson

Speaker 1 started his career.

Speaker 1 Jaguars Colts was the Colts

Speaker 1 New Week One quarterback. Oh, okay, all right.

Speaker 5 Well, with Doug Peterson, it's like you've got the best former Philadelphia Eagles coach in the NFL and also Andy Reid playing.

Speaker 5 How do you rank those Max as a Philly guy?

Speaker 1 It's got to be Dougie P.

Speaker 5 Dougie P, Andy R.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What's that look?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's got to be Dougie P, dude.

Speaker 7 Andy was there for so long.

Speaker 1 But a flag flies forever.

Speaker 5 It meant so much. All those NFC championships.

Speaker 1 Dougie P game losses that you have. Philly Philly.

Speaker 5 All right, Nick Siriani or Dougie P?

Speaker 1 Dougie P. Okay.
Nick Siriani lost the Super Bowl too. Yeah.
Oh, Tank got you good on that one. Damn.

Speaker 5 You're not remembering all those NFC championship game losses, Hank.

Speaker 1 Hank, I'm proud of you. That was fucking.
I mean, it got you bad.

Speaker 7 No,

Speaker 1 Nick Vermeal or Dougie P.

Speaker 7 But Andy Reid had the Eagles in contention every single year.

Speaker 1 Right, but did they win anything?

Speaker 1 This is an insane question.

Speaker 7 I know, it's Dougie P.

Speaker 5 Andy Reed's got a fist full of rings from the years that he had them in contention.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Nick Foles eat each eyes easy. Oh, that's Nick Foles Easy.
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 That's the same question. What's the rings?

Speaker 5 It's the exact same question.

Speaker 1 It's the exact same question.

Speaker 7 Okay, that's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 1 He's got you twice now.

Speaker 7 I think I just like Andy Reid as a guy more than I like Donovan McCauley.

Speaker 1 Andy Reid's a guy.

Speaker 5 Andy Reid's more of like a Philly guy.

Speaker 1 What's the difference between the two, Max?

Speaker 7 McNabb was kind of a jerk.

Speaker 1 They're both kind of chunky.

Speaker 5 No, I mean, one guy, big cat, one guy is the kind of guy that you'd want to date your daughter.

Speaker 5 The other guy, he comes home and you're like, hey, what's going on here?

Speaker 7 No, McNabb said some shit after he left.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, you guys said some shit to McNabb.

Speaker 7 Yeah, while he was puking into the huddle.

Speaker 1 Max, Andy Reid beat you.

Speaker 5 Andy Reid beat you in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 That's also

Speaker 1 that's 3-0 this side of the room. Okay.
Unreal. Dougie P.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game on TV, Ravens Bengals. Yeah.
Very excited for this one. Will Joe Burrow bounce back? I say yes.

Speaker 5 New haircut, big cat. New haircut.

Speaker 1 Can't play.

Speaker 1 He is, unlike Kadarius Tony, who I think can play worse, Joe Burrow cannot play worse.

Speaker 1 I think that was the lowest, like that, I think you'll look at Joe Burrow in 15 years Hall of Fame career, he'll be like, remember that game? That was the worst game I ever played.

Speaker 5 Did he play worse in this game or against the Steelers in week one last year?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 5 I feel like T.J. Watt played really good in that game.

Speaker 1 He scored in that game, though. He didn't score against the Browns.

Speaker 5 He was pretty bad. If you own any of the Bengals players on offense in fantasy football, you're like, what the fuck happened last week?

Speaker 1 What just happened? So I'm excited for this game because just AFC North, baby. AFC North.

Speaker 5 These teams don't like each other, big teams. They don't like each other.
The Ravens are already very, very injured. Yeah,

Speaker 5 right out of the gate.

Speaker 1 John Harbaugh is sneaky great as an underdog, too.

Speaker 1 He's in that camp of coaches that somehow find an extra little something for Underdogville.

Speaker 5 I love Zay Flowers.

Speaker 1 Zay Flowers is going to be a problem.

Speaker 5 I've been watching a lot of tape of Zay Flowers in week one. That dude's going to be a problem.

Speaker 1 That's the only reason why I'm kind of leaning the Ravens is because, you know, when you have these AFC North battles, they know each other so well. The Ravens are running a new offense.

Speaker 1 They ran a lot more wide receivers out there.

Speaker 1 And Mark Andrews might be back.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but they've got some linemen down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they got everything down.

Speaker 5 The Ravens are the Ravens.

Speaker 5 Defensive line of the Bengals is going to eat this week.

Speaker 1 They're always injured. Okay.

Speaker 1 Next up, Seahawks at Lions.

Speaker 1 I was looking back through history. I think this might be the most hype Lions crowd ever.
Because

Speaker 1 last time,

Speaker 1 I think they're 17-1

Speaker 1 to win the Super Bowl right now, and they're 1-0. 1993, they were 15-1, and they were 1-0.
It's like, I went through every year the Lions' Super Bowl odds. They were always like 40-1, some 100-ones.

Speaker 1 The fact that the Lions won on Thursday night, they have a team that is considered a Super Bowl contending team, and it's a home game, it's going to be fucking awesome.

Speaker 5 It's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 It's going to be so loud and so much fun, and I'm excited to watch this Lions game. Also, our friend, Jared Goff, little fun betting nugget, 10-1 against the spread weeks one and two in his career.

Speaker 8 That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good.

Speaker 5 He loves the good weather. He loves it.

Speaker 1 He loves early season.

Speaker 5 All right, so here's a bunch of reasons why I think the Seahawks might suck. Yeah.
Okay. They were three and five to close out the season last year.
Correct.

Speaker 5 Two of those wins came against John Walford. Remember him? Yep.
John Walford on the Rams. And the other was Zach Wilson.
Yep. And then there was Baker Mayfield,

Speaker 5 I think he started that last game for the Rams. But the two of those three wins came against bottom-tier coaches.

Speaker 1 And they needed that last win to get in.

Speaker 5 They needed the last one. They were playing for a lot.

Speaker 5 They started out the season hot, beat some good teams, beat a couple teams that they really should have beaten.

Speaker 5 And also, now I think they might be down their two starting tackles. So Aiden Hutchinson, who basically plays like a tornado.

Speaker 1 Very attractive. He just

Speaker 5 very attractive family. Very, very attractive family.

Speaker 5 He's probably going to have a pretty good day for the Lions.

Speaker 5 So everything is telling me the Seahawks might actually suck, but it's that stat that we talked about earlier where a team gets their ass kicked.

Speaker 5 All the expectations of the world are now on the Lions. Their

Speaker 5 favorites, as they should be, they seem like they're going to be a pretty good team. Add that into the fact that Pete Carroll is 20 and 11 against the spread after he loses as a favorite.

Speaker 5 So just something that everything about this game screams, bet on the Lions.

Speaker 5 But because it's telling me that, and I'm smart enough now to know that I'm an idiot if I trust myself, I think I'm going to fade myself.

Speaker 1 Can I give you a counterpoint? Yeah. These lines are different.
Fuck. That's all I keep saying to myself.
Look, they might be different.

Speaker 5 They might be lying. We're talking about those lines.
Yeah, no, no.

Speaker 1 You're not talking about the same old lines.

Speaker 5 We're talking about these lines. These lines are way better than those lines.

Speaker 5 I think what I might do is just hold my nose, take the Seahawks, and then just write it off to being smart when that bet loses. Yes.

Speaker 5 I can live with that loss. Yes.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Jake. Nerd nugget.
No two teams in NFL history have ever combined for at least 80 points in three consecutive meetings. These two teams can do that.
Last year, 48-45, 2021, 51-29.

Speaker 1 You got to take the over.

Speaker 5 You got to take the overall. 51-29.

Speaker 1 48-45 last year. You got to take the over.

Speaker 1 You have to. It's history.

Speaker 5 You want to be a part of history.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to be a part of history. Three straight games combining for 80.

Speaker 1 There's a couple teams that are playing week two that I would actually say have must-wins and can't loses. And the first one is Raiders at Bills.
The The Bills must win.

Speaker 1 It does feel Monday Night Football was a disaster. It feels like the Bills have to win this game and they have to win it convincingly to get their swagger back a little bit.

Speaker 1 The Stefan Diggs story with the reporter who accidentally on a live mic said he's terrible to deal with and will say fuck you to your face and then had to walk it back and be like, just kidding.

Speaker 1 I didn't actually mean that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you did. You said it on a live mic.
Like you were, you meant what you were saying.

Speaker 5 Just weird vibes. Is it not true that he'll say fuck you to your face, though?

Speaker 1 That's actually a good thing. It is a good thing.
He's a dog. Yeah.
Well, also, you'd rather that than have him be passive aggressive to your face.

Speaker 5 He's a dog. Put a D on his chest, Max.

Speaker 1 It does feel like it's kind of, I don't want to sound the alarm so bad, but the Bills just, they need to win. They need to win this game, and they need to do it well, and they need to win by a lot.

Speaker 1 And everyone will be like, chill out. The Bills are still awesome.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so just a little counterpoint to maybe why the Bills should knock the shit out of the Raiders. The Raiders are pulling the old football guy move of staying at the Greenbrier this week.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they've been on the East Coast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or kind of.

Speaker 5 It doesn't really make a lot of sense.

Speaker 5 You usually do that when you've got two East Coast games back-to-back. Yeah, they played in Denver.
And they played in Denver last week, and then Josh McDaniels is like, well, you know what?

Speaker 5 Bill Parcellos would have these guys staying at the Greenbrier, so I'm going to make him stay at the Greenbrier. The Greenbrier, there's something going on there.

Speaker 5 Why do so many teams just hang out in the hills of West Virginia for a week in between games?

Speaker 5 That's actually the place where the shadow government was going to be in the event of a a nuclear war against the United States.

Speaker 5 The Greenbrier estate was going to be a place where the government would all fly out to and plot their next move.

Speaker 1 I also think now that you just gave us that fact,

Speaker 1 someone do some investigative journalism, but there's probably a 99% chance that Mark Davis just rented out the Raiders facility for like a birthday party. Yeah.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like that's why they had to say it's not, they didn't, they weren't like, let's get a competitive advantage staying closer to the time zone.

Speaker 1 They're like, no, we can't use it because there's a bar mitzvah at the Raiders facility.

Speaker 5 Might also just to be told.

Speaker 1 We got to get some cash.

Speaker 5 They might have done to get away from Mark Davis for a week.

Speaker 1 That would be so funny.

Speaker 1 There's a bounce house in the Raiders facility right now. Mark Davis charged someone like $100,000.
Like, hey, look,

Speaker 1 that's a practice squad player. We got to pay her guys somehow.

Speaker 5 To me, it seems like

Speaker 5 it's a try-hard move on McDaniel's part to like, you can't break the green briar glass for no reason. Right.

Speaker 5 You have to do that when it makes sense.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Nerd nugget. Similar to last game, when the Raiders and Bills get together, a lot of points are typically scored.
In their last five meetings, they've averaged a total of 57.2 points per game.

Speaker 1 Okay, so another over.

Speaker 5 I do think that Josh Allen just goes nuts this week.

Speaker 1 He has to. He will.
I think he will as well.

Speaker 5 He looks so depressed after the game when he was saying that, like, yeah, it feels like it felt last year, and I hate that I feel that way. He just looks super, super down.

Speaker 1 This is a game-right. I want to be happy.
I want Josh to be happy. This is a must-win get-right.
Yep.

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Speaker 1 Okay, next one.

Speaker 1 I want to say right now, I was a week early.

Speaker 1 I was premature.

Speaker 1 The Bears going to Tampa Bay is the biggest game in Bears franchise history. I'll just say that right now.
I was a week early on my prediction of biggest game in Bears franchise history.

Speaker 1 This is a must-win. I've watched some of the tape.
It's bad. It wasn't just Luke Goetze.
Justin Fields played bad. Chase Claypool was awesome.
Chase Claypool is a bum. Get him out of here.

Speaker 1 I don't even think he's going to play, which will be good.

Speaker 5 They should honestly cut him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they should. They should.
But I think that in one of those situations, you can't do it right now.

Speaker 5 The first-round pick? It's a second-round pick. Second-round pick you gave up for him.

Speaker 1 That's 32nd overall.

Speaker 5 Okay, Max. Thanks.
So that is a first-round pick. Yeah, thank you, Max.
Thanks, Max.

Speaker 5 But I know that sucks to be like, like, well, we made a mistake.

Speaker 1 Don't shake your head.

Speaker 5 Don't shake your fucking head. Oof.

Speaker 1 It sucks.

Speaker 1 Don't shake your fucking head.

Speaker 5 It sucks that

Speaker 5 you made a mistake so quickly and you gave up a lot to get just an absolute loser.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but we have two first-round picks, which also sucks. But you've got a loser.

Speaker 5 But he's a loser, Big Game.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's a bum. You can't win with him.
He's a bum.

Speaker 1 Two things happened way too early that make me very nervous. One, every year, if you know the Bears franchise, Virginia McCasky is like 150 years old.

Speaker 1 She's a woman from the Titanic, wonderful lady, owns, has owned the Bears forever,

Speaker 1 and her sons are running the Bears. George McCasky runs the Bears.

Speaker 1 At least one point in every single Bears season, we get a report that either Virginia or George are not happy with the direction of the Bears. We got that in week one.

Speaker 1 So we already have the report, and nothing happens from it. It stays the same.

Speaker 1 The Bears just continue to suck, but they let it be known that they're not happy that they oh my god how'd this happened we suck again do they ever get concerned is there ever a report that they're concerned with the direction of the franchise there was one i think maybe at the end of the treston years where where well there was one time where george mcasky got pushed uh at the stadium that was funny uh virginia mccasky i think like was like uh went and went to a game and was like very dis you know upset at the at the loss or something these are the reports that we get nothing changes again but it happens every year it's happened way too early the other thing that's happened way too early sounds like she just needs to get laid maybe you i mean you want to i'll dick her down yeah just do it just fucking bend her over doggy baby yeah you you

Speaker 1 virgin mccasky you sister gene and virginia that's a hell of a three-way that would that would maybe be the oldest three-way ever yeah i mean they'll both be in chicago i'm only 27 though

Speaker 1 yeah that's okay um the other thing that's happened way too early do you think they've ever met yeah definitely they might be the same person i don't think I've ever seen them in the same room.

Speaker 5 Let's look into that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The other thing that's happened way too early that makes me very nervous is that I've already started telling myself two first-round picks. Yeah.
That's bad. That's bad.
So that's really bad.

Speaker 1 And the Bears, they need to win this game so, so badly because they play the Chiefs in Kansas City next week. 0-3, disaster start.

Speaker 1 I'm having a crisis of confidence.

Speaker 5 All right, but counterpoint, Picat. And 0-3 would look very bad on the record.
It looks bad.

Speaker 5 Nobody out there is going to have Chicago Bears 0-3 in their Twitter handle, right? That's not, you're not going to brag about it.

Speaker 1 Maybe I have to do that now. But

Speaker 5 what if you guys go down to Tampa Bay, the offense looks great, you guys score 35 points? They need to. The Bucs score 37 points.
You would be happy with that if the offense looks good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if Justin Fields look good,

Speaker 1 I could

Speaker 1 spin zone myself. If it looks like it looked on Sunday, though, it's disaster.
Everything I thought is gone. Everything I believed.
Just, again, crisis of confidence going on in my brain right now.

Speaker 5 It's not.

Speaker 1 It's been a torturous week having to deal with this.

Speaker 5 It's not necessarily a must-win. It's a

Speaker 5 must-offense.

Speaker 1 No, it's a must-not look like you did against the Packers.

Speaker 1 Just do.

Speaker 1 That was very loud. Max, is that you? Yeah, I'm sorry.
That was a hiccup.

Speaker 1 You just can't look that bad.

Speaker 5 You have must-score. It's a must-score game.

Speaker 1 Must look competent. Yeah.
That's really, that's where the bar is because there was no competence on Sunday. And so you just need competence.
I also am starting to, another bad thought in my head.

Speaker 1 I feel like DJ Moore is probably already like, what the fuck? I want out.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, it'd be nice if you threw the ball to him more than twice. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's bad. And the tape is worse.
I saw all Baldi's breakdowns. It's bad.

Speaker 1 It basically just relived all week because I had a flashback this week where it was like, remember the classic Mitch Trubisky screenshot with the Packers game? It was that all over again.

Speaker 1 People just throwing it up there, like, dude, I saw the game. It was bad.
Can we bury the tape? No, we got to watch the tape over and over and over. So

Speaker 1 they have to look good. I think you'll get the best effort.
I also am starting to think that Iber Fluis isn't the guy. Like, again, these are all the thoughts that are going through my head.

Speaker 1 It's a crisis of confidence. Winning cures all.

Speaker 5 I speak on behalf of America and probably all Bears fans when I say let Justin Fields run the ball. Let him run the ball.
Do everything. Put in some design runs for him.

Speaker 5 Let him stretch the defense out.

Speaker 5 Let the defense get uncomfortable and try to figure out where he's going to go. And then the passing game opens up.

Speaker 5 When you do that, when Justin Fields is breaking off 60-yard runs, then the rest of the offense looks awesome.

Speaker 1 And on top of that, Justin, if you're listening, I still have confidence in you, but don't be afraid to let it fly, baby.

Speaker 1 Like that Josh Allen arm punt where he threw a 60-yard interception, I'd suck a dick for one of those. Okay? It was a great interception.
Like, you throw an interception 60 yards down the field.

Speaker 1 I can't be upset.

Speaker 5 Let's keep a

Speaker 5 running stat for interception of the year. That one's up.
Because I think that Josh Allen pick was the best interception I've seen.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, that was great. Okay, next game, Packers-Falcons.

Speaker 5 I love the Falcons.

Speaker 1 I got a stat for you.

Speaker 5 I love the Falcons. Desmond Ritter has never lost a home game in college or NFL.
That's a pretty good stat. That's a pretty good stat.
And where are they playing this weekend?

Speaker 1 They're playing in Atlanta.

Speaker 5 I love the Falcons offense. And if you only pay attention.

Speaker 1 Love is a strong attack.

Speaker 5 Well, no, here's why.

Speaker 5 Because if you only pay attention to fantasy football, you're like, the the Falcons offense sucks because your guy, Drake London, isn't getting any catches because Kyle Pitts doesn't get the ball downfield.

Speaker 5 But guess what? They're playing mustache football. Yeah.
Arthur Smith has a mustache.

Speaker 1 They're going to run the damn ball. Did you watch the clip, though, that someone made a cut-up of Kyle Pitts, and he was just open on every point.
I know, I know.

Speaker 1 And there was one play where he juked the cornerback so bad that he broke his ankles and Desmond Rudder didn't throw him the ball, but Kyle Pitts still had to celebrate because he's like, that move was incredible.

Speaker 1 Like he clapped in his face. Like, I got you.
I didn't get the ball, but I got you.

Speaker 5 You know what we call it? That's a good rep, big cat.

Speaker 1 He had a lot of good reps.

Speaker 5 He had a great rep. Obviously, it'd be nice to hit him downfield every now and again, but I still love the fact that Arthur Smith sometimes will just be like, ah, fuck it.

Speaker 5 I feel like just running the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no.

Speaker 5 Just run it.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. Also, I had another insult stat.
You know how there was,

Speaker 1 you know, like there was always a stat, like, if you played Bama the next week, you would lose because Bama would just beat the shit out of you.

Speaker 1 Turns out out it's actually the reverse with the Bears.

Speaker 5 Because I had a note that the Bears might have softened up

Speaker 1 the last 20 years, teams that have played at Soldier Field the following week are 95, 58, and 2 against the spread.

Speaker 5 Okay, that's not good.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 31 and 16 against the spread since 2017. So they basically get all their good reps against the Bears.
They're like, we can do this.

Speaker 5 Aaron Jones might have gotten himself hurt, though.

Speaker 5 Maybe that's the one good thing about your defense.

Speaker 5 Players will run so fast directly through your defense that they pull a hamstring. Yeah.
And they can't play next week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that one hurt. All right.
Two more for the noon games. Chargers at Titans.

Speaker 1 Tannehill.

Speaker 1 So in his press conference, he said,

Speaker 1 guys, I just want to move on to San Diego. I'm not going to answer any more questions about what happened Sunday.
I'm not happy about it. No one in the building's happy about it.

Speaker 1 But at the end of the day, it's over.

Speaker 5 San Diego?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He said, he said, move on to San Diego.

Speaker 1 And they put

Speaker 1 in the parentheses, Los Angeles Chargers.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so he's.

Speaker 1 So he said San Diego, but it also makes me think

Speaker 1 it's actually not over, Ryan Tannehill. I think you still suck.

Speaker 5 Well, no, again, we're waiting for the facts to come out. We don't have enough body of evidence yet on Tannehill.

Speaker 5 And clearly, he's still figuring out this league if he doesn't know that they play in Los Angeles. Correct.
So let's wait until we make judgment about Ryan Tannehill.

Speaker 5 I think this is the year that he takes that next step, Big Cat.

Speaker 1 This is like Urban Meyer finding out about Aaron Donald. No one tells Ryan Tannehill they aren't in San Diego anymore.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I got a couple questions for you.

Speaker 1 Do you remember Khalil Mack? Yeah. He was awesome in 2018.
Do you remember?

Speaker 5 Do you remember Joey Bosa?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It'd probably be nice if maybe a defense had those two guys and maybe they could get some pressure on the quarterback.

Speaker 1 Joey Bosa, I would put more like, hey, what's up, dude? And that was a shootout that got away from them with the Dolphins. Khalil Mack is old now.

Speaker 5 He is old. He's getting old.
But still, he's still pretty good. And when you have Joey Bosch on the other side,

Speaker 5 and they're passing the ball so much, they did a pretty good job of stopping the run.

Speaker 1 Pin your ears back.

Speaker 5 That's my coaching tip to

Speaker 5 the Super Chargers of San Diego is pin your ears back this week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this kind of feels like, I don't want to say a must-win for the Chargers, but they kind of got to win because there's a lot, like this season is supposed to be a big one for them.

Speaker 5 It should be.

Speaker 5 In the Titans game last week, there was a great video that came out. If you haven't seen it, go watch the Saints.
It was inside the NFL. Derek Carr on the sidelines against the Titans to win the game.

Speaker 5 And he goes over to the sidelines. He's like, hey, just run a go route.
Run a go route. And then the camera cuts over to Jameis Winston next to him, who hears the words go route, and he goes, Yes.

Speaker 1 And then they call it a go-route.

Speaker 5 Carr throws it downfield. Jameis, when he heard the words go route,

Speaker 5 it was the Pavlovian dog that like drools when he hears the bell. When Jameis hears you say go route, yes, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 I was about to say that.

Speaker 1 His eyes get so wide.

Speaker 5 I love it. There's just something about Jameis that, God damn, I love that.

Speaker 1 I know we'll get to the Dolphins game, but I've been watching some film Twitter. As you can tell, the Mike McDaniel adjustment that they made against the Chargers.

Speaker 1 So basically, when they played the Chargers last year, they were running Tyree Kill in motion, and the Chargers were able to figure out where he's going because he's coming in motion.

Speaker 1 And they basically decided this year to run Tyree Kill in motion without running him in motion because he's so fucking fast.

Speaker 1 So he would like, they would snap the ball and he would run sideways and then come looping around and no one could guard him. Yeah.
It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. He's so fucking fast.

Speaker 1 He could do motion without motion.

Speaker 5 Is motion, should motion be illegal? I like motion. It feels like it's a running star.

Speaker 1 I like motion because if you root for bad football, a bad football team, it feels like you're at least trying something.

Speaker 5 It's like pussy football.

Speaker 1 Line up like men. You know the play's not going to work, but at least you look like it's like busy work.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like, hey, I'm doing something over here. Yeah.

Speaker 5 You've been watching a lot of Twitter film?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been watching a lot of film. Yeah, I like my film.

Speaker 5 I do most of my film watching also on Twitter. I guess it's X videos if you're watching.

Speaker 5 I watch a lot of X videos during the week to study.

Speaker 1 Nerd Nugget.

Speaker 1 Los Angeles has absolutely dominated the series as of late, winning 11 of the past 13, also four of the last five matchups in the series decided by one score.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, because I remember the Titans were pretty big underdogs last year, and then they almost won that game. I think they lost like 17, 14 or something.

Speaker 1 I just, I feel like the Titans, if you can get even a C- game from Tannehill, they just do it to everyone. They make everyone play at their level.
They make everyone play in a fist fight.

Speaker 5 I think C-plus. You get a C-plus game from Tannehill.

Speaker 1 You might be able to win with a C-minus.

Speaker 5 One touchdown, two interceptions.

Speaker 1 Last game, Colts, Texans.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 5 I actually like Houston in this game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, why not?

Speaker 5 Yeah, because it's been a rough week for the Stroud boys out there, for sure. But he was the first rookie quarterback in NFL history to make a week one start over 45 drop backs, zero interceptions.

Speaker 5 Wow. So we can build it off.
Good for him. I don't know.
Is Anthony Richardson concussed?

Speaker 1 Well, he hurt his knee and his head? I don't know if it was his head.

Speaker 5 He also took a he took a pretty bad shot to the head.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This game, yeah, I guess we'll find out if who's not bad. Yeah.
So who's not bad, Bull? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like the Texans as well. All right.
Yeah. I like D'Amico.

Speaker 5 D'Amico seems like he's.

Speaker 1 I like Domico a lot.

Speaker 5 The defense is playing hard.

Speaker 1 Will Anderson is a beast. I like D'Amico.
Yeah, Texans.

Speaker 5 Texans.

Speaker 1 Texans.

Speaker 1 Okay, Nerd Nugget. I have a good one for this game.
It's only the second game in NFL history featuring two starting quarterbacks under the age of 22. They're both 21.

Speaker 1 The only other was Jameis Winston versus Marcus Mariota, week one, 2015. And who won that game? I think.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
I'm asking you.

Speaker 5 The winner of that game will... So the winner of this game will go on to have an illustrious career as a starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 This is big. This is huge.

Speaker 1 Titans 34. Saints 20.
No, wrong game. Okay.
This is awful. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Jake, Jake. Jake, how did you not think that was going to be a follow-up?

Speaker 1 Oh, I think the Titans won. I'm looking at the Saints, you idiots.
You idiot, Jake. No, you idiots.

Speaker 5 You moron.

Speaker 1 You fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 Come on, Jake. He's starting to blush.
42-14 Titans.

Speaker 1 Okay, 42-14 Titans.

Speaker 5 So that projects to the Texans.

Speaker 7 42-14 Titans.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Although C.J. Stroud, I don't know which one.
Is he Jameis or Marcus Mariota?

Speaker 5 I don't think anyone's Jameis.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no one is Jameis. He's truly one of one.
It was 21-0 Titans after the first quarter. Oh, wow.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Afternoon slate.
49ers Rams.

Speaker 5 So, Big Cat, you talked about the Alabama thing and the contrary stat with the Bears. Let's not forget the stat with the 49ers last year.
Yes.

Speaker 5 Teams, the very next week, so I'm not counting a bye week because the Chiefs were the anomaly in this, but the very next week after playing the 49ers last year, teams were 0-15 straight up.

Speaker 5 They beat the fuck out of you. They beat the fuck out of you.

Speaker 1 So that will be for the Steelers Monday night.

Speaker 1 But yeah, this is, I'm just going old, reliable, and I fucked this up last week because we have to remember our NFC West circle of death. McVay beats Carroll.
And Shanahan beats McVay. Yes.

Speaker 1 And that happens every time. I know the NFC Championship game.
I I know that was a big game for McVay, but he's 1-8 versus Shanahan.

Speaker 1 So the one being the NFC Championship game, the most important one since 2019.

Speaker 5 So just go with Old Reliance. And then everybody beats the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 And everyone beats the Cardinals.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So, yeah, I'm with you on this one.
49ers, I feel like they might be the best team in the league.

Speaker 1 Through week one, they'd win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they did win the Super Bowl. They did.
If it was last week.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Pittsburgh only rushed the ball 10 times against them last week. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Steelers might.

Speaker 5 Steelers might not be bad.

Speaker 1 They just played a really good team. Yeah, we'll see.
We're waiting for all the facts to come out. Speaking of which, do you have any facts about Mel Tucker?

Speaker 5 Did you do any digging?

Speaker 1 Not yet. Oh, you're going to do that at the bar? Yeah.
Okay, all right.

Speaker 5 You're going to just ask Michigan State Fence, what do you think about Mel Tucker?

Speaker 6 Well, if they win, maybe it'll be worth investigating more.

Speaker 1 But if they lose, I might just move on. Okay, you might just move on to the next one.
Nerd Nugget.

Speaker 1 The Niners have tallied 11 consecutive regular season wins dating back to week eight of last season, a streak that started at the Rams, where they are this week.

Speaker 1 It's their longest regular season winning streak since 97. Wow.
They've been on five in the regular season. Yeah, a lot of wins.

Speaker 5 And both these coaches used to coach for the Commanders. Isn't that interesting? Good nugget.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up, Commanders and Broncos.

Speaker 5 Let's do it.

Speaker 1 This game's going to be ugly, I think. It probably will be ugly.

Speaker 5 So if you look at the recent history of these two franchises, Broncos low-key have just been in disarray since 2016.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 So this is from

Speaker 5 Nikki Javala from the Washington Post.

Speaker 1 We're not doing fantasy fuckboys yet. Yeah, well, it's a her.

Speaker 5 Okay. That's fine.

Speaker 5 That is a good fancy fuckboys.

Speaker 1 Nikki Javala? That's a great fantasy fuckboys.

Speaker 5 Since 2016, the Broncos have had 12 quarterbacks starting. The Commanders have had 13.

Speaker 5 They've had the Broncos have had five defensive coordinators. The Commanders have had three.

Speaker 5 The Broncos have had seven offensive coordinators. The Commanders have had five.
And each team has had two different ownership groups.

Speaker 5 So that's a fun little stat for you right there about depressing franchises.

Speaker 5 I think that the Commanders defense, I was telling Max this earlier, and I meant it to be a compliment about the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 I was saying. You did not take it that way.

Speaker 5 The Commanders,

Speaker 5 I think, have a better defensive line than even the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 Well, Max is also on his shit right now because he came up to me. He's like, how do you feel knowing the Bears passed up Aaron Donald? So he's already got Jalen Carter as Aaron Donald.

Speaker 7 I mean, he was a top three defensive lineman in the league.

Speaker 5 Did you watch the film?

Speaker 1 I watched.

Speaker 1 I actually watched the film too.

Speaker 7 I just kept

Speaker 7 Twitter searching Jalen Carter throughout the week and then just watched different people break down how good he is.

Speaker 4 God damn it.

Speaker 7 I wish I could do that. The Vikings also have a back or this game will art.

Speaker 1 Never mind. Oh, go give us a prediction right now.
Tell us the final score.

Speaker 1 No, no, tell us the final score.

Speaker 7 No final score, but I was just saying.

Speaker 1 No, no, final score, Max.

Speaker 7 34-28 Eagles.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Big, big shootout.

Speaker 5 So they're not going to cover.

Speaker 1 They're going to push. Push.

Speaker 5 So not going to cover. You don't believe in them.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you want to amend your final score?

Speaker 7 But I was going to say the Vikings starting center is out. So that means Jalen Carter is going to eat.
Jalen Carter over Saks.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Back to this game.
I think this game's going to stink, PFT. I think it's going to be a game that one team is going to win on a field goal at the end of the game.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, that'd be great because that would mean the commanders would cover. Yeah.
Either way, it does feel like a field goal game. Since 2002, the Broncos are

Speaker 5 our teams playing against the Broncos are 3-21 in weeks one and two in Denver. So that goes back to the altitude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the altitude and the hot.

Speaker 5 Now, I feel like Ron Rivera is going to turn into Riverboat Ron this week.

Speaker 5 I don't think we've got analytical run. I like that prediction.
That was week one. We had analytical run in week one.
Week two, the Riverboat's coming back.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 5 if you remember, Sean Payton did some interviews after he accepted the Broncos position.

Speaker 5 He talked about what this offseason was for him, how he had a bunch of offers, a bunch of teams that were interested in the services of Sean Payton to be the head coach.

Speaker 5 He mentioned that pending what was going to be happening in Washington, some of the ownership groups reached out to him to see if he was interested in coming to D.C. He talked about another man's job.

Speaker 1 So this is a revenge game.

Speaker 5 Rivera knows when another man talks about another man's job.

Speaker 1 This is a hypothetical revenge game.

Speaker 5 This is a hypothetical revenge game where Sean Payton hypothetically would have taken Rivera's job. I like that.
So Rivera is going to be on the warpath, and it's going to be nice.

Speaker 5 And I think the commander's in that defensive line, which is the best in the NFL

Speaker 5 across all divisions,

Speaker 5 I think that they're going to get after Russ Wilson.

Speaker 1 Okay. It might be a tough day for him.
Nerdnugged. Also, on that end, PFT, this is a potential milestone game for Ron Rivera.
A win would give him 100 regular season wins in his coaching career.

Speaker 5 That sounds impressive until you realize how many years Ron Rivera has coached.

Speaker 1 A lot of years. Yeah, he's 99 and 90, I believe.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 He had that one year with Cam Newton. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it's the saddest active head coach to reach 100.

Speaker 5 He should have, it's insane. Like when people

Speaker 5 say that Rivera is coaching for his 100th career win,

Speaker 5 you're like, wait, he doesn't have 100 career wins yet?

Speaker 1 How did that happen? It's hard to do.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it is. It's tough.

Speaker 1 The fact that he gets all those opportunities.

Speaker 5 It's tough to stay in the league for as long as Ron Rivera has

Speaker 1 without getting to it. It actually is very, very hard to be 100 wins and almost be 500.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's in Jeff Fisher's set. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Next up, memes, your Jets at the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Blake Bortles did get back to me. I asked him if he would like to take a meeting with the Jets, knowing that he has the Nathaniel Hackett connection.
I said, do you want to meet with the Jets?

Speaker 1 Want to break some news? He replied, LOL, not a chance in hell.

Speaker 5 So that sounds like a no.

Speaker 1 So that's a no.

Speaker 5 That's a firm no from Zoom.

Speaker 1 Affirm I'm retired.

Speaker 5 I think what's going to happen is you have to try with Zach Wilson. Zach's your guy.
Memes, I want to hear you say Zach's my guy. Your coach said it.

Speaker 1 Zach's my guy.

Speaker 5 Yep, that's some good comments.

Speaker 1 Zach's your guy?

Speaker 5 Zach's the guy. Wait, is he the guy or is he your guy?

Speaker 1 He's just the guy right now because there's no one else. Oh, he's the guy right now.
He's the guy right now. So TGRN.
Right now, he's the guy.

Speaker 5 Okay. R-N-H-T-G.

Speaker 5 So they have to say that, and they have to try. but I would be shocked if playing against this Dallas Cowboys defense didn't make the Jets be like, well, he was the guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was definitely. He's a big quarterback is what you're doing right now.
Yeah, just run the ball. Run the ball.
Run the ball. I agree with that.
Every play. Pre-saul is awesome.

Speaker 5 Davin Coast is good too.

Speaker 1 Yep. Okay.
Are you okay? I'm good.

Speaker 1 I've had a rough week. Are you okay? Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself.
I am trying to convince myself. I thought football was pretty much over week one, but I'm trying to bounce back.

Speaker 1 But that video of Aaron Rodgers coming out with the American flag. That was sick.
Did you see his statement? What? Yeah, he went dark night on everyone, right? He basically said he's coming back.

Speaker 5 Yeah. He said it's always darkest right before the dawn.
Is that true? Do we have any astronomers out there that listen to the show? Is it actually darkest right before the dawn?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I feel like that's not true. I feel like it gets gradually lighter before the sunrise.

Speaker 6 Yeah, a little bit lighter.

Speaker 1 Is he coming back? Yeah. Yeah, totally.
I think he, although he has guaranteed money, so I don't know if he has to.

Speaker 5 Yeah, actually, Aaron Rodgers, well, he gave up a lot of it.

Speaker 1 But next year he gets a tenant. And I shall rise yet again.

Speaker 5 I shall rise yet again.

Speaker 1 Okay, so he's either coming back or he's storming the Capitol. It seems like a threat.
One or the other. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that video, dude, you can just play that video. This has, I actually think the Jets are going to be live in this game.

Speaker 1 But we all know sitting in this room, this has potential for disaster.

Speaker 5 Is Aaron going to go to the game?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Potential for disaster. Disaster.
Zach Wilson drops back. His 30-yard drop back.
An interception. He's not running away from Mika Parsons.

Speaker 1 Mika, I like that. Mika Parsons.

Speaker 1 Are you trying to just feminize him a little bit?

Speaker 5 It's like Morning Joe's co-host. Yeah, Mika Parsons.

Speaker 1 That's not how you say it. It's Micah? Micah.
Micah.

Speaker 1 Are you thinking of Minka Fitzpatrick? No, Mika.

Speaker 5 Mika Parsons. Mika Parsons.
Don't forget Mika Parsons has a big foot fetish. You remember that video?

Speaker 1 He loves Parsons, wants to get those sacks.

Speaker 5 Rex Ryan will be watching this game intently.

Speaker 1 What do you got? Dak Prescott also stinks. That was for Max.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Good people. Good learning.
Get mad about the Dak Sandwich.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Dak does stink. Yeah, Dak sucks.

Speaker 7 Like, he could throw just as many picks as Zach Wilson.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, it wasn't. They scored a defensive touchdown, a special team touchdown.
I actually have a fun fact.

Speaker 1 Could you guys tell me the last time a team in NFL history had a 40-plus-point shutout with at least one offensive, defensive, and special team touchdown in a season opener?

Speaker 5 I cannot. There's only one other team.
I cannot tell you.

Speaker 1 Is it a memorable game or is it just a game? Very memorable.

Speaker 1 It was the Akron Pros versus the Wheeling Stogies

Speaker 1 in 1920.

Speaker 1 Who could forget that game? Dan to change the name. 43-0.

Speaker 1 Okay, nerd nugget. Yeah, I have one for each team.
Dallas leads the NFL in takeaways and interceptions since Dan Quinn arrived in the future. Oh, okay,

Speaker 1 since one week. Yeah, okay, yeah.
Yeah, and also, I take a lot of these from the team's game notes online. The Jets have a pro Zach Wilson one on their first post of

Speaker 1 their

Speaker 1 media guide. Zach Wilson, since 2022, is third in the league in fourth quarter passer rating.
Oh, okay. Behind Joe Burrow and Dak Prescott.
Mr. Fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Now, does that have anything to do with pre-vent defense, maybe?

Speaker 1 It probably doesn't have anything anything to do with the fact minimum minimum 50 drop backs in the fourth quarter i don't know i don't think it has anything to do with the fact that they're getting their ass kicked in the fourth quarter no you have to pass the ball joe burrow dak what does that face memes that's good when were they getting their ass kicked in the fourth quarter uh last year last year no never

Speaker 5 i'm trying to think mike white was in a lot of comeback games yeah

Speaker 1 but they led when they were they went five and two before brees hall got hurt and they led in most of those games so he might be missed their fourth quarter hurt it here first it might also blow blow up in our faces.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is going to be a...

Speaker 1 You're going to have to watch this

Speaker 1 through your hands, seeing how this game goes because it could get disastrous.

Speaker 1 You got this. You got this.

Speaker 5 You got this, memes. Memes, you got it.

Speaker 1 Memes, rally for your boys. You know what you could do?

Speaker 1 You could just say it's the biggest game in Jets franchise history, and then you just do it the next week, too, and the week after that. You just keep doing that.

Speaker 1 It's a good coping mechanism. I highly recommend it.
Yeah, you're right, Memes. They were actually in all those games, so maybe it wasn't.

Speaker 5 Mr. Fourth quarter.
The year before when he was a rookie, yes.

Speaker 1 They went like 3-13.

Speaker 5 So we're counting those two, though, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can count the loot

Speaker 5 since 2022. So it's just last year.

Speaker 1 And last week.

Speaker 5 So last year and last week.

Speaker 1 Third or first quarter. Fourth quarter pass the rating in the league behind Burrow and Dak.
Interesting.

Speaker 1 But if you count in rookie year, then it's.

Speaker 1 You can build on this. It's all right.
I like that. You can build on this.
Yeah. All right.
Last afternoon game, Giants at Cardinals.

Speaker 1 So how should we rank the Giants knowing that Dable just partied his balls off on? Oh.

Speaker 5 Yep. Did you get that wrong?

Speaker 1 At the time, I used all available information. Okay.
And it was like 30 minutes. I was in the Uber home back with Max, and I was like, I'm going to look really bad from this.
It came out.

Speaker 1 It was his like six-year-old birthday.

Speaker 1 Material change. When I saw it happen, I was like, yes, I'm so happy we were already recording.
Yeah, because I knew I was screwed from the beginning. Then Giants Twitter came at me.

Speaker 1 But at the time, Michael Kay had to issue an on-air apology.

Speaker 5 Good. It sounded like when I saw this report, I thought Michael Kay was fucking with everybody.
And he was like,

Speaker 5 they had a big party. Yeah, it was for a six-year-old.
But okay, Jake, I'm going to get your back for a little bit here.

Speaker 1 No, I was, I should have gotten a little bit of a bad boy. No, we got your back.

Speaker 5 There's also a good possibility that he got fucked up at his six-year-old's birthday party. This is kind of like parents like to drink at their kids' parties.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Michael Kay just did a confirmation bias investigation. It was like, how do you lose 40 to nothing? Okay, did he drink last night? Yeah.
Was it a a party? Yeah. Did he have a party, Jake?

Speaker 1 It was a party.

Speaker 5 He has a late-night party.

Speaker 1 I'll just say right now, if you eat a lot of pizza,

Speaker 1 you could get just as hungover.

Speaker 5 He did look

Speaker 1 good. It's a fact.
That is a fact. If you stuff yourself with pizza, you could feel just as bad than that.

Speaker 5 When they did the side-by-side shot of the two coaches, Dayball, he did look like

Speaker 5 he was challenging McCarthy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was doing something. All right, so I mean, I think the Giants, I think we're going to learn that the Cardinals are bad.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 5 I still think that their defense is going going to be pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think the Giants are going to win this game.

Speaker 5 Their defense is violent.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What, Max?

Speaker 7 PFT is only saying that because the commanders barely beat them.

Speaker 5 No, I'm saying that because if you watch the X videos and the Twitter pro modern Max, that defense was head-hunting.

Speaker 1 But it might have also been Sam Howell not being super decisive.

Speaker 5 No, no, it would be good.

Speaker 5 They were coached that way. Okay.
I'm telling you,

Speaker 5 watch the Cardinals this week. Tell me that they don't take sneaky violence.

Speaker 1 Tell me if the Giants put up like 50 games. No, no.

Speaker 8 I'm fucked.

Speaker 5 The Cardinals' defense is sneaky good. It has nothing to do with Sam Howell doing a reverse spin move and dropping the ball into the end zone.

Speaker 5 It has nothing to do with Sam Howell forgetting to slide and getting his head put into a leg lock.

Speaker 5 It has nothing to do with Sam Howell remaining upright as he's going to the sidelines and getting his head knocked off. That defense.

Speaker 5 They coached that.

Speaker 5 They're a dirty team.

Speaker 7 PFT was really upset that the Commanders had the same odds to win the Super Bowl as the Bears and the Giants.

Speaker 1 I was.

Speaker 5 We should be, we're 1-0.

Speaker 1 I mean, you played the worst team that we're 1-0. I played this response.

Speaker 5 He's the worst team. One of the best defenses in the league.

Speaker 1 We're 1-0.

Speaker 1 By the way, you want to bet on Zach Ertz to score a touchdown. He's a touchdown in five straight games versus New York.

Speaker 1 He has more touchdown receptions versus the Giants seven than against any other team in his career. What team was he playing on the Eagles? Yeah.
It's true. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 It is true, but he was playing on the Eagles. Again,

Speaker 1 these teams love to

Speaker 1 boost their teams up.

Speaker 5 Yeah, this is a birthday party fact, Jake.

Speaker 5 You have to read it in context.

Speaker 1 It's true. Now I'm going to have to bet it.
I'm going to have to bet him to score a touchdown.

Speaker 5 I'll have to do it. Who's going to throw it to him?

Speaker 1 Because I don't want to look like a fool.

Speaker 5 Is it Josh Dobbs or is it Clayton Toon?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Keep us guessing.
He loves playing against the Giants. All right, so Uber Eats, what are we going to get for dinner?

Speaker 5 I'm going to throw something out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah?

Speaker 1 Burritos. Ooh, I like burritos.
Yeah. Oh, we got a yes from means.
All right. Okay, so are we deciding it? Uber Eats, burritos, Sunday night football? Yeah.
Because we're going to try to live stream.

Speaker 1 We're going to try to get in the studio for at least the second half so Hank can watch the second half.

Speaker 5 Well, Hank and Jake, your two teams are playing. What do you think?

Speaker 1 I think it'll be a good game. It's good.
Sushi. Sushi? Oh, for eating the Dolphins.
Oh, okay. Yeah, we might have to wait for burritos.
Maybe we get burritos tonight on Uber Eats.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that sounds good.

Speaker 1 Okay, so yeah, let's do that. And then we'll get sushi.
Uber Eats.

Speaker 5 You should watch The Cove leading into this game so we can get hyped up.

Speaker 1 Get almost anything order now. Uber Eats.
Last game, Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 1 Here's a fun fact. Patriots or Dolphins at Patriots that I didn't realize.
You guys probably saw this on Twitter on X.

Speaker 1 Tu's middle name's Donnie. I did not know that.
Did you know that? Is that true? Donnie.

Speaker 5 Because anyone can edit Wikipedia.

Speaker 1 No, it's on Pro Football Reference, too.

Speaker 5 Sometimes they fuck that up.

Speaker 1 And then I. His name is Tuan.
Yeah, I gotta tell you. Can you say the whole name? I gotta say the whole name.
I'm already in the process. Okay, say the whole name.
Tuaningamanu Ole Pola Tungavailoa.

Speaker 1 No, you had to say the middle name. What do you mean? Oh, Donnie.
Yeah, come on. That was the whole point of saying it.
Say it again.

Speaker 1 Tuaninga Manu Olepola Donnie Tungavailoa. See, that rocks.
That's a fucking great name. His real name's Donnie.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I loved the Tua when they asked him, still can't throw deep, and he's just like 466.
Oh, what was you guys had me do, what's his name from the books? Vita Vea, his full name.

Speaker 1 I forget it, but I did it for for like.

Speaker 1 I have one question about this game outside of the fact that Tua,

Speaker 1 I didn't know that I could become a bigger Tua fan and bigger Tua non-fan, but the fact that his middle name is Donnie fucking rocks. Donnie.
To make sure.

Speaker 1 He should be Donnie. Donnie.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a night game.

Speaker 1 You think they're going to light the Lighthouse?

Speaker 5 I think they have to. Both? I think the Lighthouse is actually going to be awesome at night.

Speaker 1 Are they going to light both, Hank?

Speaker 5 Well, they got rid of the first one, Big Cat, because remember

Speaker 5 they built a bigger scoreboard

Speaker 5 that was bigger than the old scoreboards. They had to destroy the old lighthouse, and then they built a bigger lighthouse to look over the bigger scoreboard.

Speaker 1 Will they be lighting the lighthouse, Hank? Duh. Okay.

Speaker 5 Who's the keeper of the light this week? Do we know?

Speaker 6 Probably someone G.

Speaker 5 G? Probably Teddy Brewski?

Speaker 1 Donnie Wahlberg.

Speaker 1 Will it affect your bet seeing who lights the lighthouse? No. Okay.
Are you excited to see the lighthouse at night? I cannot wait.

Speaker 1 I need to get into this lighthouse.

Speaker 5 Here's a fun fact about the lighthouse, Hank.

Speaker 5 I actually have one ready for you. It's actually the second biggest lighthouse in America.

Speaker 1 Oh, you idiot. No, you moron.
What's the biggest? An old one?

Speaker 5 The Statue of Liberty is the biggest lighthouse.

Speaker 5 It was used as a lighthouse, you fucking moron.

Speaker 1 Reading American history.

Speaker 6 Okay, it was used.

Speaker 1 That doesn't mean it is

Speaker 1 currently.

Speaker 5 Question for you, Hank. Is the current lighthouse

Speaker 5 in Foxborough at Gillette Stadium, is that used as a lighthouse? Yes, clearly.

Speaker 5 No, it's not because in the own description that the Patriots have, they put it in quotation marks because it's not a real lighthouse. It is real.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 Why is it in quotations, Hank? I don't know. Because it's not a real lighthouse.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 are you nervous about this fact that it's a quotation?

Speaker 6 I think PFT, this lighthouse, lives rent-free in PFT's brain.

Speaker 1 I like that. PFT did research on the lighthouse.
It's the biggest lighthouses in the country.

Speaker 5 Besides the Statue of Liberty. No, false.
Not counting the most climbing the top of the Statue of Liberty.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can, Hank. No, you can't.

Speaker 1 As a matter of fact, you absolutely can.

Speaker 1 You 100% can't. No, you can't.
Yes, you can. You dropped it.
But you can, but you couldn't.

Speaker 5 No, no, Big Cat, this is interesting because I have a follow-up question to Hank's inaccurate question. Can you climb to the top of the lighthouse in New England, Hank? Yeah, I could get up higher.

Speaker 5 Actually, you can't because they're not even selling tickets to get up to the top of the lighthouse until October. So it's a non-functional lighthouse.

Speaker 1 You got to go.

Speaker 5 They don't sell tickets to climb to the top of the Statue of Liberty either. That's exactly what you tried to gotcha lighthouse fact me.

Speaker 1 Crowd of access is limited. It's high.

Speaker 1 So you can get the pen. It depends.
So retraction here.

Speaker 5 You can climb to the top of the Statue of Liberty. Is there a light at the top of that thing? Yeah, it's the torch.
It's the most famous torch in America.

Speaker 1 Yeah, come on, dude.

Speaker 1 It's lighted up on every shot.

Speaker 6 All right, whatever.

Speaker 1 Well, luckily, Hank, in their Path of Patriots, that's about an American lighthouse, though.

Speaker 5 The Statue of Liberty?

Speaker 6 It was built in France.

Speaker 5 That's true. It was gifted to us.

Speaker 5 It's the most American

Speaker 6 built on American. It's a Trojan horse.

Speaker 5 I still think that to this day, there's like some dead 400-year-old French soldiers inside that just they couldn't get out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you got, Jake? And their Pat the Patriot throwbacks at home. The Patriots.
Oh, they're wearing those? Seven and one. Oh, that's big.
They're seven and one. That's huge.

Speaker 1 They just lost their most recent to the Bills last year.

Speaker 1 Before that, seven in a row.

Speaker 5 I'm going to put myself in Hank's head real quick. When he hears the Pat the Patriots throwback, he thinks of that Titans game in the snow where they scored like 30 points in a quarter.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Brady had like six touchdowns in the first half.

Speaker 1 This might be a uniform game. Yeah.
Are the Dolphins wearing? I don't believe so. Okay, that would rock.

Speaker 6 I do have a sad stat. You know, about the Lighthouse.
Speaking of the torch, no.

Speaker 1 It'd be a real shame if someone jumped off the Lighthouse.

Speaker 6 Home underdogs in the Belchek era, including this week. Uh-huh.
With Tom Brady, there was 141 games. They were home underdogs 10 times.
Since Tom Brady or without Tom Brady, there's been 46 games.

Speaker 6 They've been home underdogs 15 times.

Speaker 5 But that was with the old Lighthouse.

Speaker 1 Fact. Fact.
Only one is with the new lighthouse. Yep.
Last week.

Speaker 1 Fact.

Speaker 6 And this should have won. I watched the film those tough.

Speaker 1 All right, so let's do our picks.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Jake, you got the records? Yes, I have our records. Big cat.
Congratulations. Two and out.
The only one. Me, PFT, and Hank one and one.
Max and memes, 0-2. Ooh, so we have

Speaker 1 decided something.

Speaker 1 And I think this is for the betterment of the show and also for the punishment.

Speaker 1 Max and memes cooked this up because they all both went 0-2.

Speaker 1 But if the idea and the goal is to get people to want to watch this and attend this live comedy/slash whatever vaudeville an intimate evening is part of my taking

Speaker 1 we're going to split the punishment so it's going to be memes max and jake the three of them are competing against each other the last place person in that group will have to do the 15-minute uh intro opening act and then me, PFT, and Hank will compete for the hour slot.

Speaker 1 So the last place person in the three of us will be the hour. So that way you're guaranteed me, PFT, or Hank will be putting on the hour show.

Speaker 1 Hopefully that will help when we eventually do put this out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Also, I feel like this would be a good time to update the Pancake League.
Yeah. So congratulations to Hank.
A huge week. Seven pancakes.
Wow.

Speaker 5 Nice job, Hank.

Speaker 1 Nice. Big Cat with three, me with two, Maximes with one, PFT, a goose.

Speaker 1 I'm not losing everything.

Speaker 5 I'm not good at these only leagues.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Shout out to Samson.

Speaker 1 For the stats. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 How are we picking?

Speaker 5 Whose goes first?

Speaker 1 I think Hank went first last time, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I go first. Yep, and around.
Oh, man. I'm not ready.

Speaker 1 Can I pass? No.

Speaker 1 I think I can.

Speaker 6 So you go last?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I don't want to do that, right?

Speaker 1 I will take, for my first pick, I'm going to take, you know what? I'll be part of history. I'll take the Lions, Seahawks over 47 and a half.
You want to do over 79 and a half? No.

Speaker 1 For the streak? No, I do not. There's my pick.
Memes.

Speaker 5 I'm going to do the Giants minus four and a half.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Tough defense.

Speaker 1 I'm going with the Pats plus three. Oh, good pick, Max.
Okay, your Pats. Good pick, Max.

Speaker 1 Jake?

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with Raiders, Bills over 46.5. Okay.
Average a lot.

Speaker 1 Yep. It's a good pick.
I like it.

Speaker 5 I'm going to take the Bengals minus three and a half.

Speaker 5 Since he's in their back.

Speaker 1 Against the Ravens. Spicy.
At three and a half, right? Yeah, spicy.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.
I have two. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Packers plus one.

Speaker 1 Bad pick. Packers plus one against the Falcons.

Speaker 6 The Falcons. Bears, Bucs, under 40.5.

Speaker 1 Good pick. Bears, Bucs, under 40 and a half.

Speaker 6 I wanted the Lions Seahawks.

Speaker 5 Jake kind of fucked me with the nerd nugget.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had to be part of history. Sorry.

Speaker 5 I have to be part of history. I'm going Chiefs, Jags, over 51.5.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 5 Points.

Speaker 1 Points. Points.
Points. He said over 51 and a half? Over.

Speaker 5 Points.

Speaker 1 Way over 51 and a half. Points.
Way over.

Speaker 5 Over 79.5, Jake.

Speaker 1 Points. Yeah? No.
No.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 With

Speaker 1 Angles minus. Ew.
You already that. What am I saying? Come on, Jake.
What are you saying, Jake? Come on, Jake. What are you saying? Come on, Jake.
Giants minus four and a half. No, get right.

Speaker 1 No, oh my God, pass, pass, pass.

Speaker 1 He passed. Pass, he passed, he passed.
Sorry, I'm trying to update. I'm trying to write it in.
No excuse. I'm trying to write it in, Max.
Give up the date.

Speaker 7 I'm going Jets, Cowboys over 38.5.

Speaker 1 Love it. Gross.
Well, defensive touchdowns. Yeah.
And Mr. Fourth quarter.
I like the pick. Browns, Steelers over 38.5.
Okay, I'll join you on on Monday Night Football.

Speaker 1 I'm taking the Panthers plus three.

Speaker 1 I'll just write this all in after.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with.

Speaker 1 I hope this hasn't been taken. Bills minus eight and a half.
No, no, it hasn't been taken. It's not been taken against the Raiders.
Get right. Okay.

Speaker 5 All right, so you have the over in that game, and also. Oh, yeah, I doubled up.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 I need that game to go a certain way. And if it doesn't, oh, well.
Okay,

Speaker 1 let's get to Fantasy Fuck Boys. We'll do Joe Keep Noah.

Speaker 1 What's up, boys? What's up,

Speaker 1 fuck up?

Speaker 1 What's up?

Speaker 1 My name is Ah,

Speaker 5 Maglio Stramaglio.

Speaker 5 Y'all remember you from last year and also the year before that, and also twice that year.

Speaker 1 What the fuck do you mean?

Speaker 1 What's up?

Speaker 5 I start him.

Speaker 1 Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 5 Oh, you dickhead. He's playing this week.
He's gonna be coming off feeling good after that. Taylor Swift suck fest.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Swift is on his back.

Speaker 5 Put him on on your team. Drops him to number one.
Take him. Start him.
Start him. Got some points.
Fuck yes. My sit him.

Speaker 5 Colorado State.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Playing the boss this week. Jay Norvell was talking shit.
That motherfucker, Deion, shows up like a classless piece of shit doing his press, wearing sunglasses inside and a fucking hat.

Speaker 1 Can you believe the stones on this guy?

Speaker 1 This piece of shit.

Speaker 1 I'm my aliens.

Speaker 1 Aliens. Oh, God.

Speaker 5 We got aliens popping up all over the place. I don't know if it's a smokescreen or what.
Mexico. I don't know why they're all dead.
I want to see an alive one so I can fucking kill it myself.

Speaker 5 Yeah, fuck the fuck.

Speaker 5 You just say you want to fuck and kill the alien?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Necrophilia.

Speaker 5 Yeah. All right.
Which one first?

Speaker 1 Fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Smart choice. Smart choice.

Speaker 1 Nice, nice, nice, bro.

Speaker 5 Okay. What's up? Thanks, Maglio.
What's up, Maglio? What's up, rest of the fantasy fuckheads? This is Donnie Taga Valoa.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 5 This weekend, I'm starting the lighthouse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, starting the hell.

Speaker 5 Starting the lighthouse. Fuck yeah.

Speaker 5 It's telling all the dolphins, stay away.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 The only ship that thing's keeping away is championships, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I'm sitting Travis Kelsey going up against Magdalene. No, fuck head to head.
Stupid fucking shit. He's got a bone bruise, Magdalo.
He's got a deep bone bruise.

Speaker 5 That's what you get when you nail her Swift, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Been fucking brain bruised.

Speaker 5 Been daggering a little bit too much with old Swifty. My sleeper is crack, cocaine, guns, and hookers.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 5 They just got my boy. They look what they've massacred my boy.
Look what they've done to my boy.

Speaker 1 Cocaine, crack, guns, hookers.

Speaker 5 It's a Warren Z-Bon song for Arctan Age.

Speaker 1 I fucking love him.

Speaker 5 Rest in peace to my man, Hana. We got you on the inside.
Hell yes. Hell yes.
What's up? What's up, you fuckers? This is Zippo Galippo. Zippo ZG.

Speaker 1 My stardom is the Dallas defense. They're going to face fuck Zach Wilson.
They're going to make him a bitch. Digs.
Mika, Mika, here he comes. One, one, one.
Don't drop the soap, Zaki. Mika's coming.

Speaker 1 My sit him is Danelo Cavalcante. That fucker got caught.
Danelo Cavacante. Danelo Cavalcante.
Oh, that fucker got caught, dog. The bounty hunter said, I'm coming to find you.
Go birds. Put himself in.

Speaker 1 Go birds. Go birds.
Go birds.

Speaker 5 Go birds. My sleeper is that fat fuck Bloopy.
I hate him so much, but I also have to admit the fact that ever since he became the mascot, the Braves have won the NL East every single year.

Speaker 5 Yo, you see Davello Cadacante's favorite baseball team, they lit up the scoreboard for the Braves. They said, congratulations to the Bravos for winning the NL East

Speaker 5 in their own stadium.

Speaker 1 In their own stadium, they date him. They do this at your own home.

Speaker 5 Bad Sports Town. Except we love Matt Olson.

Speaker 5 I have a dumb question. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Donello, yeah, he should go back to jail. How? Oh.

Speaker 6 Oh, nope. I just answered it myself.

Speaker 1 Oh, whoa.

Speaker 1 Oh, now you got to tell us.

Speaker 5 There's a little insight into the conversation that just went on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was great.

Speaker 6 I just saw the, and I know this probably happened a few years ago. I know it happened a few years ago.
I saw the wild card standings.

Speaker 6 There were three wild card teams, and I was like, how the fuck does that work? Oh, you just saw a number of wildcard teams. You didn't realize that.

Speaker 6 And then as I was about to say that, I remember the division winners.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's six, and then the first two get a buy, and then one of the division winners has to play in the wild card opening weekend. Three-game series at the home team.

Speaker 6 So we are getting Cubs, Phillies.

Speaker 1 Cubs are losing right now. It's on pace.
So it's

Speaker 1 not looking good.

Speaker 6 Max games left.

Speaker 1 Like 20. 14, 14, 14, yeah.

Speaker 5 Max, what do you think about that? The fact that in Philadelphia, they congratulated the Braves on winning the division in their own stadium.

Speaker 7 I think that was probably the grossest thing that I've ever seen in a Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was back. Not the murderer that they caught wearing an Eagles shirt.
And pose with him.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that was awesome. He was so good.

Speaker 1 He's going to wear clothes.

Speaker 5 They held him up like he was a deer

Speaker 1 clothes.

Speaker 5 Like a deer they just shot, like holding him by his hoodie like it's antlers, just posing him for the picture.

Speaker 1 That picture was an absolute joke.

Speaker 5 I do think that anyone that gets arrested, they should have to wear the shirt or baseball cap of their favorite team during the mug shot.

Speaker 5 That way we can all be like, look at this Yankees fan that just got arrested for triple homicide.

Speaker 1 Go birds. Yeah.
Go birds.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to our great interview with Joe Keem Noah in person.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Joe Kim Noah.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a recurring guest, our friend Joe Kim Noah.

Speaker 1 Actually, last time we had you on, I was looking it up. It was maybe one week before COVID.
So it was February 2020. So it's good to see you.
Good that we all made it through. You're in Chicago.

Speaker 1 You have the One City, One Love basketball tournament that we were just talking about before is an awesome, awesome thing you're doing that we'd love to get involved in.

Speaker 1 But for people who don't know, can you explain what exactly you guys are doing?

Speaker 4 Yeah, thanks for having me. It's good to do.
barstool and in the shy. You know, I think that this is where barstool belongs.

Speaker 4 And, you know, just to be back, you know, not having played with the Bulls for almost 10 years and to be able to do these leagues and still be involved in the community, something that's really cool.

Speaker 4 And, you know, One City is a league that we started with,

Speaker 4 Kobe Williams and Noah's Ark Foundation. And it's working with 28 violence prevention groups.

Speaker 4 using their mentorship to bring in kids. And we're doing it through a league.
We're paying the kids. We're incentivizing the kids.
And this is the first season and the finals are tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Yep. And we're really excited.

Speaker 4 We're doing it at 167 Green Street, that beautiful court overlooking the whole city.

Speaker 1 Looks like it's in the clouds. Yeah.
So

Speaker 4 we're all really excited.

Speaker 4 The kids are excited. And, you know, it's been great, man.
Just

Speaker 4 the support,

Speaker 1 the love,

Speaker 4 and just everybody just uniting to,

Speaker 4 you know, put in work in the communities that need it. And I think that's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 It's great because basketball is like the universal language. You get people playing basketball, and you can, you know, be competitors on the court and then shake hands after.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's a great project. We said before, next year, we're going to try to set it up that you guys can play some games at our new office when we open it up, which would be incredible.

Speaker 4 I appreciate that, Big Cat. And it's just like, yo, you know, it's cool because we can talk about it.
We're all in this together. And what I tell the guys is, nobody's bigger than the work.
So,

Speaker 4 you know, whether I pull up or the kid who's playing, like, we're all, we all have the same input and we're all trying to grow this thing together. So it's the beginning.

Speaker 4 It's, it's been really special.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 4 let's just keep building.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I also, the last time we had you on, like I said, was before COVID, you have since squashed your beef with KG.

Speaker 1 That is squash.

Speaker 4 That is squash. And it started here.
Remember, you guys were were talking about

Speaker 4 it up. He was just doing his movie with Adam Sandler.
Yes. And, you know, you were talking about the beef from like 10 years ago.

Speaker 4 And, you know, people come up to me in the street all the time, like, yo, KG, man, fuck KG this.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, yo, man, I got kids. I'm not, I'm not tripping about this stuff.
This was a long time ago.

Speaker 5 Walking around thinking about Kevin Granada.

Speaker 4 Yeah, damn, people are still like

Speaker 1 on that.

Speaker 4 So, you know, there was an opportunity to just,

Speaker 4 you know, really go and talk to him and vibe with him on his show and talk about what we're doing in Chicago. You know,

Speaker 4 he spent a lot of time here in high school and, you know, gets a lot of love out here in the city. So I just wanted to, you know, let him know what we were doing and he's all about it.

Speaker 4 And it was just like cool to have that conversation with somebody that

Speaker 4 you really looked up to, then became kind of like a rival. And then, you know, you can kind of talk about all those times and

Speaker 4 squash it and see what's up for the future.

Speaker 5 Yeah, did he say he was sorry?

Speaker 1 He kind of did, he kind of did. He said, Hey man, he kind of did.
I shouldn't have called you a bitch.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry,

Speaker 1 basically, basically, that's what happened. Yeah, yeah, so that you won that argument then.
If he had to apologize, he's kind of a bitch. Yeah, yeah, I should see that.

Speaker 1 I forgot, Barkstool. You guys are all about that bullshit, man.

Speaker 1 We just restarted.

Speaker 4 They were like, Joachim, you want to come and talk about One City?

Speaker 1 Joke Noah says Kevin Garnett's a baby.

Speaker 5 I'll wear that. I called him a bitch for you.
You squashed the beef. I just restarted for myself.

Speaker 1 Talk about that with him later.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it is cool to see what you're doing here. Chicago, I have to imagine Chicago has a very special place in your heart for you.
You want to come back in the community and do something like this.

Speaker 5 Can you just tell us, like, I'm sure Big Cat knows because he was here watching you play at the time, but what was your connection with the city of Chicago?

Speaker 4 and the city was everything you know i mean you're playing for um one of the most special um sports teams in the world so much history um you know i didn't know much about the city before i got here um i just knew it was a tough city and i just wanted to go out there and play hard every night and i think that um I don't know, I think that our teams, you know, during that time were teams that the city was really proud of

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 you know those are the most special times I had on the court you know I still some of my best friends today

Speaker 4 were from those teams you know you know Taj I said you see what Luol is doing right now you know coaching South Sudan it's the newest country in the world and

Speaker 4 they're gonna qualify for the Olympics you know

Speaker 4 and it's all because of Lou's work you know this is the guy I was sitting next to on the plane for eight years, and now he's really using his platform to do things that are just so much bigger than just basketball.

Speaker 4 He started a basketball culture in Sudan, in South Sudan, and they're going to qualify.

Speaker 1 How many times, not to bring up a bad memory, but because I probably, I'd say probably once a month, I think about what if Derrick Rose didn't get injured.

Speaker 4 How many times do you think that pop in your head where like, fuck, especially that year when the Bulls were the one seed and the first injury does it does it just like you know you'll be daydreaming and you'd be like damn that sucked yeah i'm not i'm not gonna lie that was a really tough moment for for him but for and for all of us you know when you have that hope of of of winning a championship and i think that hope and those emotions um were you know everybody in the city was were feeling those emotions you know so um yeah it was definitely tough i felt like we could have won some championships for sure.

Speaker 4 But the reality is, what you remember is what you have at the end when this is all said and done is your friends, your relationships, and your memories. And you know what?

Speaker 4 Those were great memories, you know, being with those guys and battling with those guys.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't change that for anything. And even though, you know, that was tough, we're still tight, we're still cool, and we're going to keep building.
So that's, to me, that's what it's all about.

Speaker 5 Yeah. There were some rumors at the time that LeBron was considering coming to Chicago.

Speaker 5 Were you excited about that possibility, or were you a little bit apprehensive? Like, there's going to be an entire thing about LeBron coming here.

Speaker 5 It's going to change the dynamic of the team that we have right now, change the culture.

Speaker 5 Were you looking forward to that happening, or was it more of like, it'd be cool if it did, but I could deal without all the drama?

Speaker 1 Cool without no, hell no.

Speaker 4 Come on, I was trying to, I was recruiting him.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I was trying to get him to come to Chicago. All those guys, Chris Bosch, D-Wade,

Speaker 4 you know, but I think that the whole thing was just great, just the battles against them.

Speaker 4 You know, I really felt like if we were healthy, we would have got them, you know, but it was cool because it wasn't, it wasn't, it was a thing where it wasn't just Chicago that was rooting against them.

Speaker 1 It was the whole, the whole country was rooting against the heat.

Speaker 4 So it was like everywhere you went. People were like, yo, fuck the heat.
Yeah. You know, and we were the team that kind of had a shot.

Speaker 4 And, you know, it was like, we had all all the, we all came through the draft. It was just like the way that we were built, just like, it was something that we could really be proud of.

Speaker 4 Like, you know, we were all brothers, like first checks together. Like, yo, this is, this is, we're going up against, you know, the other side of just free agency and super team.

Speaker 4 We're like, yo, fuck all that shit. Yeah.
And, you know, like, we're the guys who are just like, who did, who did it right through the draft. And

Speaker 4 we're going at you guys. So

Speaker 4 they beat us every time, but in the playoffs, but they were definitely some battles I'll never forget.

Speaker 1 The Derrick Rose at the all-star game when they're all dancing and he's just all business. That was like the embodiment of like the two teams at that time.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I mean, the Bulls fell short, but it was, it did feel like, oh man, if everyone can get healthy, there's a chance here. There was also a rumor that you were going to maybe join

Speaker 1 LeBron out in the Lakers, and then they signed Dwight Howard. Yeah.
That would have killed me, just so you know.

Speaker 1 If you had been teammates with LeBron and like slapping him on the ass and and like laughing at his jokes, it would have killed me a little bit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it didn't happen, and it's probably a good thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, did you think about that? Like, I'm going to have to laugh at all his jokes. I'm going to have to talk about the godfather.
Like, I'm going to have to drink his wine.

Speaker 4 You know, at that point, I mean, I'm sure it would have been pretty good, the wine.

Speaker 1 It probably drinks pretty good wine.

Speaker 4 You know what? I don't, it's. It's maybe it's better.
It just didn't happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And, you know, overall, I'm just, at that point, I I was surviving. So I was just trying to get a gig.
Right. You know, even before I talked to you guys, it's like, yo, it's March or April.

Speaker 4 I don't have a team. You know, I hadn't played in a couple of years.
So, you know, when that's taken away from you,

Speaker 4 shit, I would have went anywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you would have done anything. Do you play pickup at all? Because

Speaker 1 I always imagine, like, if you're a professional athlete, maybe you remove from the game for a couple of years, then you just start playing pickup and dominating people, how much fun that would be.

Speaker 1 Do you do that ever? Like randomly show up to a game? Like, I'm just going to, I'm just going to beat everyone here.

Speaker 4 I don't, but I'm all, the thing, my problem is I'll go to games and I'll be like, yo, I think I can still bust his ass.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I can't. My homie always tells me, he's like, nah, you can't.

Speaker 4 You have no shot. We went to a WNBA game yesterday.
My homie Matt said, you know, I don't think you can beat her in one-on-one. I'm like, you're crazy.

Speaker 4 But anyway, it's just,

Speaker 4 you know, it's just.

Speaker 1 You need someone to give you a check.

Speaker 4 But I, I would imagine, yeah, you're sitting there like, fuck it, let me get, let me get 10 minutes, yeah, but you know, I'm even 10 minutes, it's a lot of work that goes into even playing 10 minutes, yeah, you know, you can't just go out there and just you'll get hurt, yeah, basketball, basketball is no joke, man.

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Speaker 1 I have an idea for you, a viral idea. I think, remember when Erlacher did his whole hair transplant? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he went from, what if you did a shot transplant and all of a sudden you're like warming up and you have like a sick three-point shot now, not the push shot? That'd be cool.

Speaker 4 You're going to help me change the form?

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 5 We got Mark Titus here. Yeah, play.
He's a shooting coach.

Speaker 1 You beat him in the national championship. He was on the bench.

Speaker 5 But you probably, you definitely beat him directly. Yeah.
You're like, fuck that kid.

Speaker 1 He actually told us a very funny story that I want to hear your side from.

Speaker 1 He said that Greg Odin in the national championship, it didn't dawn on him till he was standing on the free throw line with like maybe a minute and a half left.

Speaker 1 And it was like, it might have been Al or Corey Brewer being like, yo, we're going to get fucked up tonight. And we got so many women ready back at the place.

Speaker 1 And Greg was like, shit, those are supposed to be my chicks. And that was the moment he was like, we lost the national title.
So was it as fun as Greg like knew he was missing out on?

Speaker 1 Wow, what a question. Holy shit.

Speaker 4 It was a long time ago, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But you can imagine getting that chip and bringing it back to school. I mean, it was so good.
We came back for a second year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 4 you know, they're like, yeah, you can go to the NBA now. And we're like, oh, no, we're going to stay in college.

Speaker 1 Which

Speaker 1 probably will not be done again in today's college basketball. Like, back-to-back champs is going to be very hard with all the movement, transfer, everything.

Speaker 1 Like, you guys might be, we might be in 20 years talking about the fact that, oh, yeah, Florida was the last team to do it back-to-back.

Speaker 4 I mean, they should. Yeah.
They should. Come on, man.
It was

Speaker 4 a hell of a run. You know, there's not a lot of guys who, you know, you say, here's the jing, here's the money, and you say, no, I'm going back to school.

Speaker 4 And that's why I'm so proud of those years, man, because it wasn't about the bread.

Speaker 5 Yeah. You also had the collection of maybe the wildest group of athletes ever assembled on one college campus at one time between the basketball team and the football team.

Speaker 5 You forget Ryan Lochte. And Ryan Lochte and Dan Bilzerian, right?

Speaker 5 So of all those guys, like who on the football team

Speaker 5 were you guys coolest with?

Speaker 4 Like, was there, did you guys guys hang out uh between the two groups or was it we basketball teams doing our thing we were all tight man yeah and it worked out you know it was i mean when you're winning you know you can imagine you're on a college campus like uf i mean there was enough for everybody yeah you know you don't have to be you know it wasn't well t-bow doesn't take any so he's right

Speaker 5 more for everybody exactly that's right that's right you know you ever hang out with tbow and just like wait for girls to come up to him and then he's like okay i'll introduce you here you go

Speaker 1 I'm not going to take it. Greatest wingman.

Speaker 4 No, he wasn't a great, he wasn't a great wingman, but

Speaker 4 he just made it so fun, man. This guy was a savage on that field.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 he was just, that's all he cared about, lifting weights and

Speaker 4 all that extra, all that extra testosterone, you know what I'm saying? When you're not getting any box.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, that'll get

Speaker 5 all that buildup. It's a real thing.

Speaker 1 It makes you a beast on the field. Yeah.
I mean, hello.

Speaker 1 So Billy Donovan, your coach in Florida, now obviously the coach of the Bulls. What is it about him that can give confidence to, because the Bulls are in a weird spot right now.

Speaker 1 They're kind of in a transition. Don't really like one foot in, one foot out.
talent, but maybe not all the pieces.

Speaker 1 Do you still, you have confidence that Billy, like, what's his coaching style that will get them through this?

Speaker 4 I love Coach Donovan. You know, I think he's like, he's just a real good balanced dude who's great coach, but pull you to the side, talk to you, and

Speaker 4 coach you hard when you need it, too. So I think he has the right balance of like really getting guys and getting the best out of guys.

Speaker 4 So I'm happy he's here, and I'm looking forward to a big year this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 You've famously squashed the beef with KG, as we mentioned.

Speaker 5 Have you squashed the beef with George W. Bush?

Speaker 4 I can't do that.

Speaker 1 What was the beef?

Speaker 5 Well, you went to the White House. Oh, yeah.
You decided to, you know, I'll respect the building, the office of presidency, but I'm going to leave my shirt untucked.

Speaker 4 Is that what happened?

Speaker 5 That's what I read.

Speaker 5 You tell me. I don't know.

Speaker 4 Where'd you read that? In the post, New York Post?

Speaker 5 I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 I might be missing some facts here, but yeah, what I read was you decided to go to the White House, but you're like, I'm going to leave my shirt untucked out of protest for the war in Iraq.

Speaker 4 I mean, I just kept my shirt untucked.

Speaker 1 It had nothing to do with the protest.

Speaker 4 Don't overthink it. But, I mean, yeah, I do have my views and I didn't feel like we should be out there at all.
And

Speaker 4 it was tough to be in that position when, you know, you don't align

Speaker 4 with the president's views. But I also knew that, you know, me not going

Speaker 4 was...

Speaker 4 This was a moment that was bigger than me. And I was thinking about my teammates as well.
Like, if I hadn't went, what that would have done for them.

Speaker 4 So, you know,

Speaker 4 being as respectful as possible,

Speaker 4 even though, you know, I didn't agree with a lot of things that were going on at the time as a, you know, as a 19-year-old kid.

Speaker 4 And, you know, as athletes, that's a tough position to be in because, you know, you, you know, eyes were on us. We had just won the championship.
I was the MVP of the Final Four. And you don't go.

Speaker 4 It's not.

Speaker 4 it's not just you and that's you know these are things that these are lessons that

Speaker 4 I live with today. It's like when I make decisions or when I say things, it doesn't affect just me.
Like it affects

Speaker 1 my whole team. It's my whole crew.
And

Speaker 1 so, yeah,

Speaker 4 I have my views. And at the time,

Speaker 4 you know, that was a decision I had to make. And I think people felt that.

Speaker 4 I wasn't real comfortable. being at the White House during that time.
But,

Speaker 4 you know, I did it for my teammates.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it is kind of strange that they take a bunch of kids, basically, and they invite them to the White House for a photo op as they're currently sending other kids overseas to fight an award.

Speaker 5 It's a strange position that you're put in.

Speaker 4 It's rough. You can't go drink a brewski.
Right. But you can go and...

Speaker 1 You didn't drink it all at Florida. Come on, man.

Speaker 1 We were lit. But I mean,

Speaker 4 it was an interesting, it's interesting that we talk about this because think about it. It's like

Speaker 4 we can barely have conversations in the living room if people have different views nowadays.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 4 And as an athlete, like you're expected to, you know, go shake hands at the highest level. So, you know, those were

Speaker 4 that's that's real talk.

Speaker 5 Yeah. What about what about your beef with Obama? You got beef with all the presidents.
Oh, you talked shit to him. Yeah, well, you talked shit to him.
Apparently he talks shit to you too, right?

Speaker 1 Playing basketball.

Speaker 4 He's like, oh, yo, just because you talk shit doesn't mean that you got beef, man.

Speaker 5 Beef squash with Obama.

Speaker 1 Come on, of course.

Speaker 1 Of course.

Speaker 5 What's his game like?

Speaker 4 He's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 were the guys he's playing against

Speaker 1 taking it easy on him? I wasn't. Okay, good.
Did you swat him?

Speaker 4 I mean, I tried, but I was like, yo, you're not getting nothing.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 he was talking a little trash.

Speaker 4 And so I was like, okay,

Speaker 4 I'm going to put that press on you. I'm going to make you feel, I'm not going to let you just because you're the present.
So I went, you know, I went hard. I liked it.

Speaker 4 He had to feel it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What, I'm sure you've thought of this, if not been asked about this, but how much money do you think you guys, that Florida team, would have made if the NIL existed then?

Speaker 1 Because, I mean, it's great that kids are getting paid now. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 It took too long to get there, but I always think about the college athletes like with the Johnny Manzel dock, where it's like, these guys would have been rolling in it and they deserved it.

Speaker 1 Have you had that like calculation in your head? Like you would have been selling, you know, Chevys and sandwiches and pizzas and just doing everything.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, it would have been nice, but you know, I'm not tripping. I think that

Speaker 4 I'm proud of my journey, you know, and

Speaker 4 I can go to sleep at night in peace.

Speaker 1 But, you know,

Speaker 4 I think it's a good thing, but it's only the start of the fight. You know, this final Ford thing generates, what, billions of dollars?

Speaker 4 You know, so some guys are getting paid and can sell the pizza, but not everybody. Right.
And, you know, this thing is generating a lot of bread. And, you know,

Speaker 4 it's the final four, your parents should be able to go to the final four.

Speaker 4 I mean, you guys are generating billions of dollars. Like, that's not so, okay.
And that's nice. That's nice, but

Speaker 4 there's, there's a, there, it's, it's a band-aid.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's more work to be done.

Speaker 5 It's tough because the people

Speaker 5 who deserve more of the share, being the players, they're only on campus for one, two, three years, and it's tough for them to get together and make any sort of lobbying effort or change anything that's going on until it's too late and they're already gone.

Speaker 5 And then after they move on to the next level or whatever the case is, then they're not going to all get back together and continue to apply pressure on the NCAA. It's a tough position.

Speaker 5 So have you thought about what would be a fair way to share all that money?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 4 no, I haven't thought about it, to be honest, but it should.

Speaker 4 It should. And, you know, I'm not educated enough to,

Speaker 4 I just know that there's something's off. Yeah.
Something's off. This thing is generating too much money, and guys are getting NIL deals.
Like, no. There's a piece of the pie, like television revenue.

Speaker 4 Like, come on.

Speaker 4 Why aren't the guys and the girls getting paid off that?

Speaker 4 And I think that that's what, okay, free education, yeah, yes, great, we need that,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 4 we deserve a piece of the pie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Um, how much when you watch Devin Booker, you know, he's been ascendant the last couple of years.
How much credit do you think you deserve for double-teaming him in that practice?

Speaker 4 Oh my God, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 Yo, yes, we're double-teaming.

Speaker 4 Spatialism at its finest.

Speaker 1 well then you tell us set the record straight i mean i loved it it was like oh yeah joe keem still got that dog in him it never stops

Speaker 4 no but i mean come on man like the guys

Speaker 4 we're playing to 11 the guy has like the first nine buckets of the game i'm like yo it's a close game i'm not trying to get off the court like i get it some some guys might not care about winning in pickup like I want to fucking win.

Speaker 4 Yeah. You know, it was just second nature to me.
And then the next thing I know, it's like the shit shit is going viral and everybody's like Kobe's talking about like what he would do.

Speaker 4 I'm like, oh, shit, this is

Speaker 4 a real conversation. And then I go to, I'm at Nobu in Malibu like the next day.
And who do I bump in right away? It's like D-Books in there.

Speaker 4 It's weird. Like, so what's up?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Is he looking for the double team? He's like, what the fuck? Here it comes again.

Speaker 1 It was a great clip. You're like, fuck, yeah, I'm playing hard.

Speaker 1 I mean, that is that hearing that side of it, like, there's nothing worse if you're playing pickup at any level than having to sit for a while. Exactly.
Like, you want to keep winning.

Speaker 1 You want to stay on the court for five, six games.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and if it's not about trying to win, like, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is boring. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to want to win. I'd imagine Tibbs watched that clip and was like, that's my guy.
He never gives up.

Speaker 1 He was proud. Yeah, he probably was like,

Speaker 1 he was like, I just hope that Jokeem played 46 minutes that game. He probably didn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 He is, I mean, I love Tibbs. He's an incredible basketball coach.
Was there ever a time where you're like, hey, can you take it a little easy on us? Like, we don't have to go this crazy all the time.

Speaker 4 I mean, almost every day.

Speaker 1 You told him that?

Speaker 4 I mean, Tibbs, you're wilding. You know how many times I would see Kyle Corver before practice.
He would stay in his car until the last minute.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 4 I would walk by and I would see Kyle. And it was just like his eyes were wide open.
He just like, you knew what he was thinking. He's like, I don't know if I can do this.

Speaker 4 like yeah he's like fucking we just had a game and we're doing defensive slides and it's like what the fuck is going on there's no other team that's doing it and then he's just looking at his books like number one number one defensive team you know best rotations in the league he's like that's because you guys are doing it the day after practice man that's why we're doing it yeah and i mean the results if the results are there it probably truth is why kyle corver keeps getting out of the car exactly it's so funny because i think everybody out there has been been at a job that they hate where they pull that exact number

Speaker 5 waiting until the last second in the parking lot and then it starts creeping over and you get out of your car like one minute late. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's the big sigh and Kyle Corver's a millionaire many times over.
He's just like, oh, here we go again.

Speaker 4 Tibbs was nuts, man. Like you'd win by, you'd be winning by 20 points if

Speaker 4 they made two threes at the end of the game and we won by 14, he could come into

Speaker 4 the locker room and be going nuts nuts on us like we lost yeah i'd be like yo what what what the fuck just happened

Speaker 1 we won by we won by 15 bro like chill yeah but you know that was that was the vibe at the time i'm sure he's chilled no he hasn't chilled at all no no definitely not he i mean you have to tell me you know him obviously very well it feels like all he does is basketball like he just eat i would imagine he lives in his office like with you know a bunch of chinese food containers out and he's just he's just basically cracking the code to basketball at all times.

Speaker 4 I mean, wouldn't you want that to be your coach?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Exactly.
Exactly. He might not have been in his office because Gar Foreman and John Paxton were definitely bugging his office.

Speaker 1 And you know that that's true. You know that's true.
Come on, man.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Pax. Shout out to Tibbs.

Speaker 4 Those are the best times. I'm not worried about no bugs, man.
I see what they're trying to do on Barstool. They're not going to catch me, guys.

Speaker 1 I'll keep my thoughts to myself, but I have a lot of thoughts. We can talk about after that.

Speaker 4 It's crazy crazy how much you know about this shit, though.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, I lived through it. I was just like,

Speaker 1 I mean, Tibbs was, you said it, but like, the way he had you guys playing in the middle of February, when a lot of teams can, you know, take an off night or be like, all right, well, we had back-to-backs or we had a long road trip.

Speaker 1 That Bulls team, every single night, brought all the intensity. And it was awesome to watch.
Because

Speaker 1 I always use you as a description for, you know, we're fans.

Speaker 1 We root for the jersey, and we want the players to care as much about the franchise and the city as as we do and i always point to you as being one of those guys who's like when you watch him you know how much he cares and those are the best guys to root for appreciate that yeah yeah and that's why we're still here yeah you know and all the guys who are on those teams you know they it wasn't it wasn't me or tibbs it was like the whole squad one through 15.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 that's why, yeah, benchmarking, that's why we're tight to this day. You know, like,

Speaker 4 you'll never hear me. I'll tell jokes about Tibbs and shit, but I love Tibbs.

Speaker 4 I love PAX. I love all those guys.
You know, it's just

Speaker 4 really, really special times. And it's 10 years later, and we're talking about doing work in the community and doing all this stuff.
But it was because of those teams. And even though we didn't win.

Speaker 4 those teams resonated and our coach had that identity like yo back to back i don't give a fuck you guys are playing 40 minutes and people look at it now like yo you guys are crazy crazy.

Speaker 4 But you know what? That's in some way, like that represents what this city is all about.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 4 I'm proud of those teams.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 5 where do you go to, do you have an outlet right now to get that competitive fire out? Because you're such a passionate player, such a passionate athlete.

Speaker 5 It's like you enjoyed turning it up to 11. And now you said you don't play pickup basketball, so you got to have something that you do that lets you get that fire out, right?

Speaker 4 Well, the year I retired,

Speaker 4 I started working with with

Speaker 4 the Basketball Africa League. And so I started, you know, I was around the game.
And, you know,

Speaker 1 we're in year

Speaker 4 four.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I'm just like really proud to be doing work in Africa right now.

Speaker 4 You know, the people really, the kids really need it. You know,

Speaker 4 my father's side of the family is from Cameroon. Joelle Embiid's the MVP.

Speaker 1 There's one indoor court in the whole country.

Speaker 4 You know, imagine when we can start building some real infrastructure. And it's growing.
It's growing. Like basketball is really not part of African culture yet.
But when it is, holy shit.

Speaker 4 It's real. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, just look at the team France.

Speaker 5 You've talked about that.

Speaker 1 Like the international game is insane right now.

Speaker 1 The best two players in the league are international guys. Yeah.
Yeah. All over the world.
And then you got Victor coming.

Speaker 4 Exactly. And they listen.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, these kids over here, you know, they got all their TikToks and stuff. So

Speaker 4 they're comfortable. I mean, they're not playing around over there and they listen.

Speaker 5 Can you give us a scattering report on Victor?

Speaker 4 I mean, he got the whole, you know, he's like, kids are the real deal.

Speaker 4 You know, left, pull up everywhere, left, right,

Speaker 4 you know, handle, seven foot three. I mean, we haven't seen anything like that.

Speaker 4 So, you know,

Speaker 4 he's a guy. I really, I went to go see him play

Speaker 4 two weeks before the draft. He was playing in a playoff game in France.
You know, a lot of guys like here, they shut it down because they're going to be a top pick. Nah, he was playing.

Speaker 4 To me, that says a lot about, you know, the character of the guy. The guy likes to hoop.

Speaker 4 And I think there's going to be, you know, some growing pains, but he got the perfect coach with pop who's going to just sit him down and be like, yo, young fella. Just take it easy.
I've seen this.

Speaker 4 I've seen this before. Yeah.
You know,

Speaker 4 this is not a sprint. It's a marathon.
You know, just keep working on your shit and you're going to be all right.

Speaker 1 It is the perfect setup for him.

Speaker 1 I had one other question about the Bulls teams. At what point did you know Jimmy Butler was different?

Speaker 1 Because it is crazy to think about his path, where he was drafted the first couple of years with the Bulls, and now he's, you know, that heat run was improbable.

Speaker 1 This year, the one in the bubble was crazy. Like, he is a superstar.
Did you have that moment where you're like, oh, shit, this is, yeah, he's going to be something here.

Speaker 4 I mean, you know, Jimmy's

Speaker 4 probably the toughest competitor I've ever been around. And, you know, it started right away.
I mean, he got his up. He wasn't playing in the beginning.
And then he had that

Speaker 4 big game in the garden where Luawa got hurt or he got, he fouled out, and he had to guard Mello the rest of the game. And we ended up winning the game and with, you know,

Speaker 4 young, young Jimmy rookie. And and i think that gave him a lot of confidence he worked his ass off and um

Speaker 4 you know the sacrifices that he made in the summers were just unbelievable i mean people don't know this but he was going whole summers no tv jesus whoa that's psych i'm out i'm out that's why

Speaker 5 that that right there that's probably the only reason why i'm not in the nba right now

Speaker 5 i could never give up

Speaker 5 that whole summers no tv whole summer no tv not worth it it's not worth the millions of dollars to me What do you do?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, you guys. You just practice, I guess.
Grind. Waking up early, like, I mean, at 4 a.m., 5 a.m.

Speaker 1 You know, I could cure cancer without TV. Like, I think about how much time I waste watching TV.
That's insane. Yeah, you're right, PFT.

Speaker 5 We'd be in the league. World Peace.

Speaker 1 I would be

Speaker 5 simultaneously president of the United States, established World Peace, and also NBA MVP.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 5 First ever.

Speaker 5 All you have to do is just turn the TV off. It's still...
You could tell me, like, okay, PFT,

Speaker 5 you'll grow a foot and a half, and you'll be the richest man in the world. All you have to do is just never watch TV again.

Speaker 1 No, I'm out.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry. It's too much for me.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's easy to say that when you got a $500 million company,

Speaker 5 it's worth a dollar.

Speaker 1 It's $1.

Speaker 1 Dave bought it back for $1.

Speaker 4 So you guys are just.

Speaker 5 I could buy and sell this company at least 100 times over.

Speaker 1 I got enough money in my pocket to buy this company. Yeah.
It's $1.

Speaker 5 He bought it back for $1 from the person he sold it to for, what, $400 million?

Speaker 1 $500 million. $550 million.
So, yeah.

Speaker 4 That's a lot of cheeseburgers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a lot of cheeseburgers. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 Is this the first interview that you've done in a room where when somebody flushes the toilet, you can hear the pipes come through on it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel really comfortable. I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 This is a temporary office. We're waiting for the new one.

Speaker 1 I had one last question.

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Speaker 1 Well, it's two questions. One is, I told you a story before we started.
I kind of want to tell it again, but I'm going to respect you if you don't want me to.

Speaker 4 You can can do it. Okay.

Speaker 1 This is an all-time joke. You know a story because this is also like, you know, you got kids, you're married now, like, you're, you know, a different life, but this is.

Speaker 4 Just don't go into like too detailed.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. This is 10 years ago.
This is 10 years ago,

Speaker 1 eight years ago.

Speaker 1 We were TBT, Donnie McGrath and Matt Walsh, all-time Stoolies. I was on the team with them, and they had the tournament in Chicago.

Speaker 1 You were, it was summer, so you weren't here, but they were staying at your house in an apartment in the, I think it was like, what, what was it, River West area?

Speaker 1 And we were partying at your house and Donnie called up you and was like, Jokeem, where should we go tonight? What's what's good?

Speaker 1 And you said to him, just stay exactly where you are and don't worry about a thing. And then 30 minutes later, about 15 girls showed up to your apartment and they're like, we're here to party.

Speaker 1 And it was the most incredible flex I've ever seen. You, I mean, you, it was, it was basically you were, you are Uber Eats.
It was incredible. It was fucking insane.

Speaker 1 It was fucking insane i've never seen a move like that called in seal team sex

Speaker 1 you're just like stay right where you are i got you

Speaker 4 i'm gonna start by answering this question by um telling my wife uh baby i i love you

Speaker 1 it was a long time ago yes and uh

Speaker 4 it wasn't me it was a promoter

Speaker 1 the bat phone you don't have the bat phone anymore that's not no bad phones no bat phones turn in your bed tire the bat phone.

Speaker 1 That was a long time ago. I'm not that guy anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, I just, I mean, that was like the coolest move I've ever seen. So I already loved you, but then I was like, this guy's the coolest guy ever.
And he's loyal to his friends.

Speaker 4 That's a fact. Well, you know what? I'll take that as a compliment.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 4 yeah, I'm happy you guys had a good time.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. But the last, last question.
So One City won love.

Speaker 1 The finals is happening Saturday.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure when we're going to air this, but I just wanted to say it's incredible what you guys are doing, and we would love to get involved because it really is like sport and competition in sport, I think, can solve a lot of the problems that we have today.

Speaker 1 Like, it's a lot of, if you give kids an outlet to compete and work as a team, I think a lot of things can be fixed that, you know, are problems in our society.

Speaker 1 And I just think you guys are doing a great job, and I'm excited for the future.

Speaker 4 I appreciate you, bro.

Speaker 1 I think that,

Speaker 4 first of all, thanks a lot for having me on the show. I think it's really dope.
And One City is something that, you know, gets me excited when I wake up. You know, I think about it all the time.

Speaker 4 I love the people that I'm working with.

Speaker 4 This is people that we've been working with for a long time.

Speaker 4 And so I'm really proud of that. And the basketball is just a great way to get the kids to come in.
And then the real work starts.

Speaker 4 And, you know, we can put in some programs that can really help, you know,

Speaker 4 kids who need it. So let's just, I think it's just great to just, you know, we can come from different worlds and have conversations and make a difference.

Speaker 4 And I think that that's what this tournament is all about. Shout out to Kobe Williams, my guy, bring, you know, bringing the guys together.
The city has

Speaker 4 so much to offer and makes us so happy. We might as well just give back and do what we have to do to make sure that this is a better place.

Speaker 1 I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 We definitely want to be involved as this this moves forward.

Speaker 1 Yes. And we want you to come to our new office and yeah, we'll shoot around.
You can block us. You can see how many times you can block us.
I'm in.

Speaker 1 All right, Joe Kim, thanks so much, man. Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 Respect, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We got Fire Fest of the Week.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're up.

Speaker 5 You got a firefest? For Fire Fest of the Week. You had a Fire Fest.
We do this on Fridays.

Speaker 1 Yep. We've been doing this for a while.

Speaker 5 This show is coming out on Friday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Today's Thursday.

Speaker 5 It's the weekend. Okay, so we record this every Thursday.

Speaker 1 You're on a technicality kick.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Taking a lot of L's.

Speaker 1 A lot of L's.

Speaker 6 I got a spider problem.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. He's a nice guy.

Speaker 6 No, I love spider.

Speaker 6 I love Dan DiOreo as my guy.

Speaker 6 There's just like,

Speaker 6 I think I'm scared of spiders.

Speaker 5 Arachnophobic?

Speaker 1 You have spiders in your house?

Speaker 6 I have spiders in my house. I have a little, like, balcony thing.
There's spiders all over them. And I've...

Speaker 1 Spray them, dude.

Speaker 6 That's what I've realized. I'm scared.

Speaker 1 Just spray them?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Why? What kind of spiders? I don't know.

Speaker 6 I realize it. I'm just like, holy fuck, there's a shitload of spiders out here.
I got to get some spray. And then I just haven't done it yet.

Speaker 5 Are we talking about like deadly spiders, venomous spiders? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I hope not.

Speaker 5 So you're just scared of like vegetarian spiders? I just, yeah.

Speaker 1 Whoa!

Speaker 1 You guys are going to screw with them so much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is a new way to fuck with Hank unlocked.

Speaker 5 Do you have spider bites?

Speaker 1 No. I had them last month.
I'm still here.

Speaker 5 So they're not even attacking you.

Speaker 5 They're just your roommates. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So don't worry about it, Hank. Fine.
What's the worst that happens? You end up getting a superpower? Starring some Marvel movies? That'd be cool.

Speaker 5 Yeah. What would happen if you took a spider and you threw it off your balcony? Would it die?

Speaker 1 Probably. No, probably fly.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think it would fly. Yeah, probably fly.
You'd catch the wind.

Speaker 1 Kind of makes you a bitch.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's fine. I'm a bitch.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're spiders. Like, you just kill them.

Speaker 5 They eat other bugs.

Speaker 1 Just fucking kill them. Yeah, they're going to spray them.
I'm going to get the spray.

Speaker 6 I'm going to get the spray. I'm just like, legit.

Speaker 6 Again, I understand I'm a bitch. I understand that this is a bad thing.
I just have had the thought, what if I spray them and they fight back?

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 What if they get mad? Yeah, yeah, no, they're not.

Speaker 6 Right now they're living and they're living a good life. Yeah.
And there's a lot of them.

Speaker 1 How many? Like all four.

Speaker 6 I had a realization. I was outside.
I was like, oh man, there's some over here and some over here.

Speaker 1 I looked up. They're all of the same.
That's the worst feeling. When you see like one ant and you're like, huh, let me look at this.

Speaker 1 Fuck, there's 300 ants.

Speaker 5 There's never one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you're not a bitch for being scared of spiders because spiders are not fun. You're a bitch for being scared to spray them.

Speaker 6 That's my problem, though, is there's so many spaces that they are that I feel like I'm going to spray them and then they're going to.

Speaker 1 The other ones are going to be like, yo, the guy's got the spray. They're going to regroup.
Man.

Speaker 5 I think you're a bitch for being afraid of spiders.

Speaker 6 I'm not afraid of spiders necessarily. I just have realized this week, once I had the realization, like the instant reaction, I was like, all right, go get some spray and kill them.

Speaker 6 And I've just been kind of like pushing that off, despite the fact that I know they're there.

Speaker 5 You're afraid that they're going to team up, that you're going to make a very powerful enemy? Yeah.

Speaker 6 So maybe I just needed to say it to, you know, give myself some confidence to go do it.

Speaker 5 But you also have a door, right? You can close the balcony door and all the spiders are just outside.

Speaker 6 Right. That's why I've just been letting them live but like

Speaker 1 I also it's weird when I go out there I'm like damn there are spiders fucking everywhere we gotta we gotta we gotta we gotta put you through a test spider test catching things and eating their insides come on Hank you got this all right yeah this weekend I just need to say it come on you know I need a little

Speaker 1 I just say it out loud to realize they're fighting back just fight through that I hope you die from a spider.

Speaker 5 That'd be hilarious.

Speaker 1 Yo, saying all this, it would be very funny. Stop, Jake.
That would not be mean. That would be funny if the spiders actually did, in fact, fight back, and then we were like, oh, Hank was right.

Speaker 5 Did you know that the average person eats eight spiders a year in their sleep?

Speaker 1 That's what I've seen.

Speaker 6 I had a bunch. I've been probably gulping on spiders.

Speaker 1 They know.

Speaker 5 They know. They're like, yo, he ate Ricky last week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got to fuck him up. If he brings that spray out, it's on site.

Speaker 5 That's totally a fake stat, by the way, that everyone just says. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's one guy eats like a

Speaker 1 million spiders and then screws it up for everyone else.

Speaker 5 No, I think it's like some dork scientist that loves eating spiders, and then he came into work. He's like, Well, actually, did you know it's not that weird? Yeah, everyone does it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just counting all of us in the room. Uh, okay, PFT.

Speaker 5 Uh, my fire fest of the week is that I'm a little man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you are.

Speaker 1 That was so mean.

Speaker 5 Hank put out a video, and funny. Thank you for putting this out on all platforms to make sure that nobody saw it.

Speaker 1 Well, I missed it on the first two.

Speaker 5 He texted the group chat being like, hey, I'm sorry, PFT, but I don't know if that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry if it offends.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry if this offends, but I appreciate you dropping that on every single platform and being like, yo, this is really fucked up what this girl said.

Speaker 5 But making sure it was on TikTok, Instagram, and on Twitter or X. But you guys did Weather Girl interviews for Barcelon Sports Advisors, and you selected the funniest clips.

Speaker 5 And there was one where you asked the weather girl,

Speaker 5 what shows at Barcelona do you watch besides advisors? And she said, oh, I saw a part of my take. That's the one.

Speaker 5 It's got that little man,

Speaker 5 the small guy. Is it dwarf? Is it midget? And

Speaker 5 Hank's face lit up like like he just got the best birthday present of all time when when he heard her say that i'm trying to clarify she was like

Speaker 6 i watched part of my take i just watched the one with the uh with the little guy yeah and i was like trying to feel her up like who was she talking about you were so you were so happy that she went down that route and then jerry jerry piling on was the craziest thing of all jerry's like jerry's little yeah he is pretty short yeah yeah good point well no i i tried to clarify maybe it was someone else i was like are you talking about pft and she's like yep exactly did you ask if it was um an african-american or if it was a white man i didn't have to because she knew i was like pft and she's like yep and then i don't know if you saw this pft because people were saying oh obviously she's talking about za she's talking about za she clarified in the comment section she's talking about pft yeah she said yeah what she said she said i meant it in the she at you this is at you uh-huh at pft commenter i meant it in the nicest way possible but but again well that's not a problem she might not know who i am

Speaker 1 sounds like she knows exactly who i am she said she's a fan of part of my title

Speaker 5 because everyone's tagging me in the video obviously yeah no but she she and then she thinks, I think she thinks I'm Za.

Speaker 1 No, I think she knows.

Speaker 1 Zaw's not on part of my team.

Speaker 5 There's two things that there's two things on the show. You watch the show.

Speaker 6 She said, yes, I watched it. Very confident.

Speaker 5 Number one, DX AWL.

Speaker 6 Number one,

Speaker 5 she's thinking about Zod. Number two, that card's defense is for real.

Speaker 5 Two things I'm sure of. Little man.

Speaker 1 Little man. That was a tough one.
Little man. Yeah.
That little man. Whatever.

Speaker 5 I'm five, eight and a half. If you think that's a little man, go live in China for a year.

Speaker 1 See how short that is. Yeah.
Facts.

Speaker 1 All right. My firefest is my wife wife is out of town this weekend, and I'm realizing that I'm just a fourth child because the texts she sent me are like,

Speaker 1 if you want to get them dinner, you can get them pizza. Like things that are like this, like this setup of the house, like, and I'm quickly realizing I am just a fourth child.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, husband meal. Yeah, but like the, you know, they could eat pizza for dinner if you wanted like directions to the closest pizzeria and shit like that.
Like, yeah, I guess I am.

Speaker 1 I'm not a grown man.

Speaker 5 You have to change the baby's diaper, his head's up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, all these little things.

Speaker 5 So They like to eat breakfast.

Speaker 1 I got to do a little bit better.

Speaker 1 You know what you could do? What? Order Uber Eats. Order Uber Eats.
That's plug-good. Plug-gun jack.
Natural plug-in. Nice.

Speaker 1 That was natural. Yeah.
That was good, Jim. The fun thing, though, about kids my kids' age is whatever you get them for dinner is the only thing in the world they do not want.
So that's just.

Speaker 1 Well, they change their mind when it gets instantly.

Speaker 5 What if it's in the shape of a dinosaur? Nope.

Speaker 1 Like, look at these dino nuggets. Still, they'll be like, oh, I had that four weeks ago.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Again, I would just do dino nuggets and mac and cheese.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's pretty much what.

Speaker 1 You run the ball. You just run the ball.
Run the ball left, run the ball right, run the ball left again.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of also just pancakes because they have the frozen pancakes that I cook up pancakes for dinner, breakfast, lunch, everything.

Speaker 5 You ever just do this move? Who wants ice cream? Yeah. And boom, everybody's happy.
Yeah, Snickers.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Snickers. Plug God.

Speaker 1 Jake. Yeah, I fell off a scooter.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 I got really lucky.

Speaker 5 Are you skinned up?

Speaker 1 A few scrapes, but it could have been bad. Your life flashed flashed before your eyes? Yeah.
Wow.

Speaker 1 You're wearing a helmet, though. I need to start wearing a helmet.
Oh, my God, Jake. You weren't wearing a helmet? Your mother's going to be so upset when she gets this part of the podcast.

Speaker 5 Were you buckled up? You can't really do that one. That sounds very unsafe.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't worry, Mrs. Marsh.
Why? We'll make him wear a helmet. I'll also make him start wearing a condo

Speaker 1 position. And I thought I could

Speaker 1 multitask and tried picking it up. Oh, no.
Should have stopped.

Speaker 5 Again, Jake, you keep finding yourself in situations where you will need the handicapped department.

Speaker 1 I need to see you in a helmet just cruising down the street. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Were you on the street, the open road?

Speaker 1 Well, there's bike lanes here. They're very nice.
They're nice and like separated.

Speaker 1 Also, we forgot to congratulate Jake on his big break with the Yankees. So congratulations, Jake.
Yeah. So the Yankees are having a 24-year-old, Emmanuel Barberry.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I said that correctly.

Speaker 1 He's filling in for John Sterling this week.

Speaker 1 And there's another person filling in for Justin Shackle. Yeah, he's been been doing it.
This is a little bit made out of the Jake Factory.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 fellow Big Jay. So congrats on him.

Speaker 1 It's the first time, I think,

Speaker 1 since the 70s or 80s that both John or Susan won't be there. Oh, my God.
She's in George George's box. Of all the dramatic things I've ever seen in my life.
Roger is in George's box.

Speaker 1 Roger Clemens, he's coming out of retirement. Is that Jimmy Butler in the box, Susan? Oh, my God.
He's in George's sweet box.

Speaker 1 All right. Good luck to everyone this weekend.

Speaker 5 Good luck to our water dogs who are not playing this weekend.

Speaker 5 Because they get the week off for the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
The Cannons, I guess the player on the Cannons took offense to us being like, we kicked their ass. Well, we did.
Which one? One of them liked to tweet, and they're like, this league.

Speaker 1 And I was like, well, we kicked their fucking ass.

Speaker 5 Factor fiction. We beat the shit out of the Cannon.

Speaker 1 The Cannons player. We kicked your fucking ass, dude.
Yeah, I wonder which one it was.

Speaker 1 There's a few AWLs on that team. I think it was a Cody or a Kobe.
Well, Brody Merrill just for time. Brody is a Brody.
Yeah, yeah. All right, numbers.
Memes, you ever gotten this? 18. No.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna go with three. One,

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Speaker 1 9,

Speaker 1 9, 9, 9. All right, we'll see everyone on Monday.
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