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We've got wide receiver Steve Smith, NFL network guy, great guest.

We also booked one of our white whales, Billy Football, to talk about the Jets.

As Max said, it's one question with the quarterback.

Yeah, one question with the quarterback.

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We're going to do some college football talk.

We're going to do some hot seat cool throne.

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Welcome to Part of My Take.

Today is Wednesday, September 13th, and Aaron Rodgers' season is no more.

Possibly his career, too.

Possibly his career.

I have very conflicted feelings about this.

I spent,

whatever it was, 15, 16 years chasing this guy.

Finally had made my peace with him.

He's in a Jets uniform.

He's gone from the NFC North and four plays in.

Achilles out.

Something I might have, listen, I might have celebrated in my past life, but I've grown as a man.

I genuinely do feel bad for Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

So all the years of you tweeting about Aaron Rodgers, thinking about him, putting all this energy, probably what, like 13, 14 years of concentrated hate towards Aaron Rodgers is not as powerful as one week with the New York Jets.

It's true.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

Insane.

The power of the unluckiness of the New York Jets is unrivaled in professional sports.

I feel bad for Mike Greenberg.

I don't know if you saw this, but he was having a little party.

He had all his friends over.

His wife made snacks for everybody.

He was wearing an Aaron Rodgers jersey.

All his friends, his co-workers.

All his friends, his best friends.

But he said all my friends, and I was like, wait, that's Damian Woody.

I was was like, wait, what's going on here?

Also, Dominians are my friends.

Also, Dominique Foxworth.

But, like,

he works with him.

It's more that I was, when Greene said, all my friends are coming over, I was like, oh, this is going to be great.

I'm going to get to see what Greene's friends look like.

And then, but he just, you know, there's also his wife and his daughter.

And his dog.

And his dog.

Everybody was there.

The entire Green Bird.

Whole crew.

It was tough if you're a Jets fan.

And I do feel bad for Jets fans as a person who roots for a shitty franchise, Big Cat You as well, with a history of just dog shit quarterbacks.

We know how this goes.

It's very, very tough for them.

Very sad for Aaron Rodgers.

But if I'm in the trust tree, it was also kind of funny.

It was very funny.

It was kind of funny that

they had six months where it's like we finally solved our quarterback situation.

We're going to win the Super Bowl.

And then

four pass attempts in.

Or was it

off four

pass attempts?

Four plays in.

It's like, well, well, we're fucked again.

Yeah, it's one of those, like, it's not funny, but it's also if you object, like, it's not funny in the moment because a guy's season just ended and it sucks.

And I do feel bad for Jets fans and Aaron Rodgers, like I said, but the more time we have away from it, we're like, yeah, this, you can't, you can't script a more ridiculous thing to happen to the Jets who

have ridiculous things happen to them.

What seems like every single year, they've drafted all these quarterbacks.

None of them have panned out.

They finally get a future Hall of Famer.

Their roster is stacked.

Maybe the best quarterback of all time.

Their roster is stacked, and he doesn't even complete a pass.

Yeah, and you're right.

Ridiculous is probably a better word.

The humor comes in just the sheer utter painful ridiculousness of the situation.

It's not real life.

And it's like, I can't believe that this happened again.

There's no chance that it happened again.

And you have to look at that and just be like, holy shit.

When you say that it couldn't be scripted, there's one person that might disagree with you, big cat.

That is Daddy Zazlav on Twitter.

He should be Zaddy.

It's Zaddy Zazlav.

He tweeted out about two and a half hours before kickoff.

Aaron Rodgers is going to tear his Achilles on a rain-drenched MetLife turf in two and a half hours.

Crazy.

40-year-old quarterback on rain-drenched turf against the best team in football.

What could go wrong?

Am I right?

Now, that's okay.

That's witchcraft in and of itself.

Also, this guy, Daddy Zazlav, may be the world's biggest hater.

I went back and I looked at some of his old tweets.

He just spends all day replying to NFL experts being like, yo, you should kill yourself.

Like, fuck you, bitch.

Like, very, very aggressive.

I like it, too.

When we say that the NFL might be scripted, isn't it interesting, big cat, to know that Twitter nuked his account this morning?

Oh.

He's been suspended from Twitter

for telling too much truth.

He knew too much.

Tell the truth.

I'm just looking at memes' face this whole time.

So we do have Billy Football on to talk about the Jets.

Memes, can we get...

You weren't on for that.

What's going on in your brain?

He's scowling at me.

I don't know if you guys can see it.

He's scowling at me.

Memes.

He just tried to quit last night.

I said, you can't quit.

He said, I want to quit.

I said, no.

I tried quitting multiple times.

And then.

I mean, you're on a pip.

It's only a matter of time.

Pushing you out.

You can't quit.

You're fired.

What do you guys say?

Oh, Matt.

He's trying to fight.

I'm trying to get the mic camera on him.

And he's having a battle with their hands.

Yeah, it was one of the worst days ever as a football fan.

You don't think that's good.

What was yesterday's date?

9-11.

Okay.

As a football fan.

As a football fan.

As a football fan.

As a football fan.

It was one of the worst days.

It started off great.

30-yard run for Brees Hall.

Who looked awesome.

Three snaps in.

Is this your way of coping?

You're just going to do the best.

I'm just retalking it.

He goes down, and then it was just the Homelander meme, just watching the movie, just in pure pain for the rest of the game until the fourth quarter.

You won the game, though.

You won the game with an asterisk.

I don't know why it's become a thing that

announcers are now saying asterisks.

They did it for the Lions game, too.

Yeah, asterisks.

Tarico did the asterisk for no Kelsey Chris Jones, and then last night they're like, well, asterisk.

There was tripping on the pup return.

Who the fuck cares?

Yeah,

it's a win.

Did they call it?

No, they didn't call it.

The Jets are 1-0.

There's no Asterix.

You'd rather be 1-0 without Aaron Rodgers than 0-1 without Aaron Rodgers.

Yeah, so the same old Jets would have lost that game by 50, so there is hope there.

But does it hurt a little more?

Because I obviously had this thought.

I'm sure you had this thought.

That defense is so fucking good that you even watching the game after Aaron Rodgers got hurt.

You're like, man, if we had a quarterback.

The defense is crazy.

The Zach Wilson pick, though, that was just a reminder.

Mr.

INT.

Yeah.

And they should let Randall Cobb quit.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, Randall, let's be honest.

Randall Cobb came to the New York Jets because Aaron Rodgers is there.

Like, is he going to come into work and be like looking around?

Like, what, you guys really, do I have to be here?

And there was the very funny meme of Randall Cobb seeing Aaron Rodgers go out for the season, and it's Samuel Jackson from Django Unchained holding dead Leo DiCaprio.

Yeah.

It was like, shit, that one worked.

They should let him just walk away and be like, okay, we know you don't want to be here.

Yeah.

So, memes, are you,

let's go back to you real quick.

Are you is it going to be okay?

It's not, but I don't know.

Okay.

It's just going to be the same as last year now.

Fuck.

So I have a list of quarterbacks, and

we can maybe do the ones that they should call, the ones that would be fun to call, and then the ones that they will call that they should not call.

Yes.

Okay.

So Jameis.

Yes.

They should call about Jameis.

Especially because of the primetime games.

Absolutely.

Yeah, five more prime games.

Just for the primetime games alone.

Tebow slash Kaepernick.

Yes, they should be fun.

Jamel Hill, was she doing a bit?

So it could be the year 2034, and Arch Manning could go down for the season with an ACL, and Jamel will be like, Kaepernick?

It's actually kind of nice for Kaepernick because it's like the old Egyptian saying, you die twice, you die when you die, and you die the last time someone utters your name.

Kaepernick is never going to die because Jamel Hill, like you said, in 20 years, is going to be like, Kaepernick's out there.

Can you imagine, though?

Because Kaepernick hasn't played in what, six years?

Seven years.

Seven years.

So he's going to come back and he's going to suck ass because he hasn't played football in forever.

And then people that hate Colin Kaepernick will be like, C told you Colin Kaepernick sucks.

If you love Colin Kaepernick, if you think he got jobbed by the NFL, you should actually be hoping and praying that he does not get a chance to play anymore.

Yeah, if you're Kaepernick, you should do exactly what you did.

Send out the message that you were open for a tryout, but hope they don't call you back.

Yeah.

Because it's way better for you to just be a question mark forever.

Yeah.

Than to get out there and, like you said, look like you hadn't played in an NFL game for seven years.

RG3.

He suggested himself.

I want to say that.

That was one of the funniest clips.

Yeah.

RG3, if people missed it on First Take This, or no, what is it?

First Things First?

Get up.

Get up with Granny.

Get up.

He was like, yeah, you know, they got to go around and call guys.

And it's not about being in shape.

Like in the offseason,

one of the executives said, like, RG3, we know you're in shape, but you'd be a distraction.

And he's like,

you're so good.

You'd be a distraction.

And he just inserted his name into the list of guys that should be called.

Yeah.

And everyone on set was like, What the fuck just happened?

I would love RG3.

I know you listened to the show.

You need to go out and make another video where you throw footballs at trees.

At a palm tree, yeah.

At a palm tree, have your wife, Greta, say, hey, hit that tree.

And then you fucking, you fire a fucking missile into that tree.

Knowing RG3, he definitely is trying to have them call him.

And he's probably just sending the clip of him racing the hawk in the Seattle.

He's had great couple years of film that he was.

Look, still speed.

Yeah, that was very, like, it was, obviously, he played in the NFL, but it's been so long that it's like, yeah, they should call us.

Yeah.

But we would probably be a distraction.

We would be.

You know, imagine the media circus that would happen.

Yeah, Jake, put out a press release.

PFT and Big Cat will not be fielding calls from the Jets for their open quarterback, backup quarterback position because we don't want to be a distraction in the locker room.

Right now, take us out of there.

Wednesday.

You can put it out on Wednesday.

Yeah, you put it out on Wednesday, but just take us out of the picture.

We want to do a solid.

I don't want to be a distraction to anyone on the Jets.

Mike Evans' report picked up some steam.

Yeah, well, he did get offered Barstool.

Masses can't negotiate.

Big Ben and Phillip Rivers.

I'm going to combine them as one.

Yeah, Phillip Rivers, yes.

Phillip Rivers, yes.

Big Ben.

Big Ben will do the thing where he'll have his agent say, yeah, we got a call, but we decide not to do it.

Yeah.

Although maybe not, like, people were really, like, they were actually throwing out Matt Ryan.

Do they not remember what we watched last year?

But I don't know if Matt Ryan would be worse than Zach Zach Wilson.

I think he would just because their offensive line is a big question mark and you're putting Matt Ryan back into harm's way.

He can't move.

Blake Bortles, I like that idea.

Did you text him?

I did.

He'll probably text me back in a week.

Actually, he'll probably, when I text him about the Blake of the Year, he'll be like, haha, missed this.

Don't want the Jets.

Yeah.

In July.

Colt McCoy.

Yes.

They probably will call Colt McCoy because I don't think he has a job right now.

But if you need somebody to win one game for you, Colt McCoy.

Yes.

Come in there for one week.

Joe Flacco says that he's available to come back.

They probably will call Joe Flacco to come back.

Carson Wentz,

I think they will.

No.

I think they will call him.

Memes.

Why not?

You laugh so memes.

Memes, you got so many page views out of Carson Wentz last year and my misery.

I can't wait for it to happen to you.

Do it, memes.

No.

Do it.

Why not, memes?

No.

Why not?

He almost won the MVP.

He stinks.

He's a what Max A, he's a pussy.

He's a mental pussy.

But Robert Salah did say this is Zach Wilson's team.

They don't have a plan to bring in a quarterback.

I think they probably will bring a quarterback.

Yeah, they're definitely going to bring in a quarterback.

What about Cam Newton?

What happened to Mike White?

Cam Newton was bad.

Cam Newton.

Interesting.

Yeah, but he was on bad Patriots team, bad Panthers team.

Hank.

Yeah, Hank.

They were solid.

Do you not think they were in the Lighthouse?

Cam Newton can't throw.

PFT, tell them about the Lighthouse.

So there's a giant lighthouse, the largest lighthouse in America.

um you need to go i think if you saw it in person you think you need to live in the lighthouse you take back all the disrespect you've been throwing at me i like the old lighthouse the old lighthouse was nice the new flashy lighthouse is like look at me yeah um all right last the point of a fucking lighthouse last thing we do have to talk about monday night football uh josh allen was bad he was that was not good that was very bad it was chaotic josh I do think it will

look, I know people get upset at us because we are biased.

He is our friend.

People try to do a what about.

They're like, well, what about Dak and your treatment of Josh Allen?

I thought it was obvious why we're biased and we are very open with our bias in general.

But if it's not, yeah,

we are friends with Josh Allen and not friends with Dak.

Either way, Josh Allen played bad last night.

He played really bad.

He was careless with the football.

His crazy Josh Allen plays are, that's what makes Josh Allen Josh Allen.

But if you add in three interceptions, it's a bad performance.

The first interception was not bad because it was third and eight, and he just airmailed it.

Oh, it's a great one.

It was a punt.

It was a punt.

It pinned him inside the 10-yard line.

Other two were bad, and the fumble was bad.

The fumble was bad.

It's like he got it, and then he wanted to pitch it forward, and then he didn't.

Then he ran into his own guy and fumbled.

And then after the game, he was like, I feel like this is the same shit happened to me all over again, same as last year.

That scared me a little bit.

He looked sad.

He looked very sad at the end of the game.

No excuse.

No, I was going to say, Josh Allen, Mac Jones, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, all in one.

Yeah, well, I was actually doing it another way.

I like it that you slid Mac Jones.

All of our friends,

Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Justin Fields, you know, came on the show.

Kirk Cousins.

I don't think we caught a win.

Jared Goff.

Jared Goff.

Thank you, Jared.

Jared.

Baker.

Baker.

Okay.

We got a couple wins there.

A couple wins in there.

But yeah, it wasn't the best weekend for our friend quarterbacks.

It wasn't.

It was a bad performance by Josh.

And you're right.

Like, if you expect us to be open and completely

anti-biased, like bias-free on this program, you've got to find another show.

Do you think that we're going to sit here and break down the all-22 and pick apart every play?

No, as far as I'm concerned, Josh Allen's still much better quarterback than Dak Prescott.

Dak had a better week one.

Yes.

And, I mean,

it was his defense that did it.

Now we're just going to.

That's true.

Yeah.

Also, Doc, friend of the show, technically.

Now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, sure.

Color is great.

I don't know.

Have we ever told the story how we were supposed to interview him again and he stood us up?

Oh, yeah, that's true.

I think we forgot to say that part when we talk about it.

But anyway, Josh was bad.

He was bad.

That was a bad game for Josh.

I still think he's a very good quarterback, but

the interceptions are starting to get a little worrisome.

There's been a lot of them, and he's got to clean it up, and hopefully he does.

The old Josh Allen play that brought me back was when he was scrambling on third down.

It was like third and 15.

He was still like 10 yards away from the first down, and he tried to jump over a defender.

Yeah.

But he wasn't even close to the first down.

For no real reason.

He says, fuck it.

He blacked out.

That was like a blackout.

First and second year Josh Allen play.

He also played bad against the Jets last year.

The Jets kind of have his number.

Well, their defense is awesome.

Their defense is incredible.

Super Bowl caliber defense.

Credit to all the

draft evaluators out there that said Josh Allen couldn't play in the NFL last night.

Take a victory lap.

Yep.

That's what you saw on tapes.

You saw something different.

It was at the start of overtime.

Did you catch the coin flip, Big Cat?

No.

So they bring the captains out, and they have a special commemorative coin, and the official flips it up in the air, and he's like, heads, the American flag, tails is the Twin Towers.

Is anybody going to pick the Twin Towers?

Like, you had to say out loud,

either American flag or Twin Towers.

Is anybody going to be like, you know what, I'll take the Twin Towers.

It seems like a safe choice.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's...

Yeah.

There's entrapment at the end of the game.

That was entrapment.

All right, so yeah, Monday Night Football.

Also, great punt return.

Great punt return.

Asterisks.

Asterisks on it.

The leg whip.

I don't think he was going to tackle them.

It doesn't matter either.

I didn't call it your one and oh.

Like the people who are like, oh, another game decided by the refs, shut up.

Yeah.

Calls get missed all the time.

What are we watching?

And they're in field goal range.

Yeah, that game was not decided on the leg trip.

The game was decided by Josh Allen playing poorly.

The game was decided by Xavier Gibson turning on the burners.

Shut up.

And the Jets' defense.

Yeah, and the Jets' defense bowing up.

Yeah.

Okay, either way, incredible theater for a Monday night football game to start the season.

Had it all.

Had it all.

Okay, let's talk some college football.

Let's do some college football talk.

Texas is back.

Texas is back.

Officially, officially back.

I wanted to talk about Texas, but I think the lead story right now is the Pac-12 is the most dominant conference in the country.

So they have eight teams in the top 25 right now: five USC, eight Washington, 12 Utah, 13 Oregon, Oregon State's at 16, Colorado's at 18, Washington state's at 23, UCLA's at 24.

It's insane to me that the Pac-12 has been around for 100 years, and they just timed it two years too late.

Yeah.

Like, if they were, could you imagine if they could go to the rights holders right now and be like, look at what we got.

They would probably get a new contract, but it all fell apart.

And now the last season of Pac-12, they finally have just a stack top to bottom.

And they'll probably eat themselves alive like they do.

But still, Pac-12 football is the best football that's going right now.

Yeah, having all this happen like the year before Colorado leaves, when they get, they get Deion Sanders, and finally, Colorado is like a marquee name in college football.

I think Gus Johnson just lives in Boulder now.

Tough timing, very tough timing.

And yeah,

it is top to bottom, very strong at the moment.

I doubt that it's going to be like that at the end of the year.

But still, like, that's

good.

They have great quarterbacks.

It's fun football to watch.

That's the other thing.

It's not just that they're winning.

It's that it's very fun football to watch.

Did you notice this about the Colorado uniforms?

They don't have captains.

They don't have C's on their chest.

They have L's and Ds.

I like it.

So L is if you're a leader.

Shadur Sanders is a leader.

D is if you're a dog.

Oh, I like that.

Yeah, Travis Hunter, he's a dog.

He's a dog.

He's got a D on his chest.

No L D's?

No L D's.

We need an L D.

What's better?

A D.

I would rather.

I'd rather be.

Unless you're, if you're the quarterback, I think you need the L.

If you have a D on your chest and you're a quarterback, that means that you're just like...

You're bad.

You're a little

you're not a good quarterback.

So, like, there's certain positions.

Like, I think you want to be an L if you're a quarterback or maybe like

linebacker, maybe,

maybe, like, left tackle, maybe even a wide receiver.

But if you're a cornerback, if you're a defensive lineman, you want that D.

I think if you're a defensive tackle, having an L on your chest might be kind of cool.

Yeah, like one guy that's like the one guy on the inside.

I wouldn't want, yeah, I don't want to kick rusher.

I don't want a kicker with a D.

No.

Or an L.

Or an L.

No.

I just want a K.

Just for the meme ability of a kicker with an L on his chest.

That's just asking for it later.

Yeah.

Yeah,

a quarterback with a D, this guy's going to make some fucked up decisions.

Yes, yes.

Either way, though, Pac-12, I think, is the story right now in college football.

And then Texas being back, which I actually think this is officially Texas being back because...

like it didn't feel like the memes were so much Texas is back.

Like they just went into Alabama and whooped their ass.

Yeah, it was an ass kick.

Like it wasn't some fluke thing like, oh, Texas is back.

We're going to get to have fun with it when they lose to like Kansas State.

No, I think Texas is just a very good team and Quinn Ewers is a very good quarterback.

And they, they, I mean, I was there.

I was at Tuscaloosa.

Great time, great atmosphere, very loud stadium, which I talked to the guy who we were sitting with, and he said

the afternoon games are not as loud because people just expect to win.

But it was a very loud stadium when I was there Saturday night, and Texas just took it to him.

Like, they were just better all around.

Yeah, they were.

And Quinn Ewers, a big question about him was, can he throw a deep ball?

Because his deep passes week one, not that great.

Deep passes in the spring game, not that great.

He had some questions last year.

He threw some sick-ass deep balls.

That one that he threw in person,

I said when it was in the air, I was like, What the fuck is this?

It was, it like touched the sky.

Yeah, it was amazing, amazing.

Yeah, it was a Russell Wilson pass.

Yeah, it just came down.

It was a really weird

cloud on it on the the ball.

It went right through the fog and came down right to his receiver's hands.

It was awesome.

Texas,

I think Texas is going to be in the college football playoff this year.

I looked at their schedule.

They have obviously Oklahoma and the Red River S-Out, which is a crazy game no matter what.

You can't really predict that game each year.

But besides that, Texas should be easily favored in every game that they play.

I think they go to Lubbock at the end of the season, but I think Texas is so back that they will be in the season.

No, they're at home.

Oh, okay.

Even better.

Yeah, no, they're only road games left.

They got to go play Dana at Houston.

Baylor is down.

Kind of a down year for Dana, too.

Yeah.

And then TCU, who's also possibly down.

So, yeah, their schedule, BYU, might be the one trap game just because those guys are big.

I sprinkled a little future on them winning the title this year.

I like it.

It might not happen, but I think they're going to make the playoff.

I do, too.

I think they're very good.

And on the flip side, this did feel different for Alabama just because

it's when Alabama loses, it's usually like even last year when they lost to LSU, that crazy overtime game is like, oh yeah, this is nuts, Tennessee, the

last-second field goal.

This one, Alabama was just the inferior team on the field on Saturday.

And I don't understand how Alabama can't get a quarterback.

Jalen Milro, incredible athlete, but it just shows you how good Bryce Young is because

they couldn't do anything on offense.

Yeah, Sabin looked very frustrated.

You know, who looked more frustrated than Saban?

Tommy Reese.

Yeah.

Tommy Reese up in the booth on the phone.

It's just like you watching the game as it progressed, you could feel the Texas was like, this guy can't beat us with the pass.

I know he threw one big one when it kind of opened up in the second half, but you could just feel that they couldn't make plays or weren't confident enough in the passing game that they could just keep creeping up, creeping up, creeping up.

And not having, it's just crazy to me that Alabama, especially with the transfer portal, like if you put Sam Hartman, who's been incredible for Notre Dame, and Notre Dame feels very legit.

If you put Sam Hartman on Alabama, that team, like their defense is very good.

They still got dudes.

Right.

But not having a quarterback, and also it probably doesn't help that Alabama went through a stretch there, whatever it was, three or four years where they had maybe like the greatest 10 wide receivers ever go through that room.

It does feel like Saban, it might be slipping a little.

This is the lowest they've been ranked, I think, in like eight years or something.

They're 10th now.

Yikes.

Alabama.

And the crowd felt it too.

Like, you could kind of hear it.

Like, when I was at the game, there was people talking to me like, yeah, we thought this was going to be a loss.

Like, even when they beat Middle Tennessee week one, you could see that Jalen Milro had a few balls that should have been interceptions.

So I don't know.

I mean, Sabin, for all, he's the greatest college coach of all time, and he does adapt better than any college coach, but he has to adapt again.

You have to have a better quarterback to adapt.

Right.

Like, you can't adapt your way either unless you you run the triple option yeah i'm not writing them i'm not writing them off forever this version of alabama is is not good uh or not good enough to be a college football they're still better than like almost every other team in college football but the sec in general is not looking as dominant as they have you know what sucks about college football this year is the commercials oh i know you're at the game but if you're watching on tv

dude it's every two seconds there's a commercial in college football and then at halftime which is obviously like spread out uh all across the country depending on when the games kick kick off You've got an ocho on every channel.

That's crazy.

Every time you try to change a channel, there's a different ocho spouting nonsense to you.

And then it comes back to the game, and then it's like kickoff, commercial, turnover on downs, commercial.

It's just too many commercials.

It's just the achos are like they're the riddler.

They just say things that you're like, what did he say?

Yeah,

you have to stare at it like a magic eye poster, except for your ears, and try to figure out, oh, I think he's talking about a dolphin right now.

Yes.

Oh, yeah, I can hear the dolphin.

Other things.

Wisconsin obviously lost.

That sucked.

I saw that one coming i i mean if you listen to me on pardon my take or pick him i said this game scares the fuck out of me cam ward is a really good quarterback for washington state i will say silver lining because i probably got ahead of myself luke fickel a lot of transfers trying to build it back up uh they did fight their asses off and they got screwed by a couple calls not going to make a complaint but i like the fight and i think it's going to be hey just transition hey maybe they're not uh a 10-win team this year but i still have the ultimate trust in Luke Fickle overall.

Yeah, he's a good coach.

He's a great coach.

And then

Hank was a Nebraska fan for Saturday.

Yeah, I was a Nebraska fan.

Searched for the Big Ten team.

Went against Coach Prime.

That was a mistake.

Was at a Nebraska bar.

People were excited.

11 a.m.

kickoff.

Place was packed.

And then it was just all sadness.

Yeah.

Missed field goal.

I mean, that quarterback.

One of the worst quarterback performances.

Sims, yeah.

He wasn't good at Georget.

He had three fumbles, one of which was just a guy in motion coming across when he just hiked it right in.

Like, that's as bad as it gets.

It was a tough, tough week as a Nebraska fan, but I respected the passion of the fans because in my head, I was like, if this was a team that I supported and they have been this bad for this long, I think it's like 22 straight games they've lost to like an AP ranked opponent or something.

I wouldn't show up.

Like, they were there and excited.

I don't know why.

Yeah, they're die-hard fans.

Once it started, they were terrible.

Are you scratching Nebraska off the list?

No, they're number one at the list right now.

Oh, okay.

Who's number two?

Oh.

Well, it's going to be a week-by-week round.

Who's this week?

Michigan State.

Oh, good timing.

We should talk about that.

Have a coach.

Listen, it goes by the schedule.

It goes by the Big Ten schedule.

I'm just trying to pick the best matchup each week.

Whose side are you taking?

If our state of Washington, they've got to let all the folks get together.

Is he getting railroaded because of the buyout?

Or is

the woman's sexual harassment complaint correct?

You should just go all in on being like, I'm so happy Mark D'Antonio's back.

Like, this is my guy.

I remember all the memories because I think he is wearing a headset.

headset i think he's he's back on the field what are your thoughts on on coach tucker as a michigan state fan i mean i think it was a bad report uh oh which way

i think you just got to let it play out i'm not going to are you saying are you saying

i i would i would walk back this day yeah as a penny state fan max can give you some good advice on how to sign up i'll say this i'll say this

i don't know what happened um

it does feel weird the whole thing because i don't really understand non-consensual phone sex for a 34-minute phone call.

Right.

So I'm not going to make a judgment.

That's a lot of words to use on a like.

Can you imagine having phone sex for that long?

Yeah.

And he might have acted improperly.

The fact that he put himself in that situation to begin with is crazy.

Like, that's just an insane thing.

Like, you should have, Mel Tucker, if you did have phone sex with her, like, you should have stopped yourself and be like, what am I doing right now?

Like, this is nuts.

But it should be mentioned, too, that Mel Tucker does have a $70 million buyout if he's fired without cause.

Yeah.

Or with cause.

Who knows?

No, without cause.

Yeah.

Who knows what the true story is?

Because his explanations seem to make a little bit of sense, but it's like, also, if you're going to pick one person to not have phone sex with for 34 minutes, it's probably the rape survivor that comes to college campuses

and speaks about the importance of respecting women on college campuses.

Right.

That's probably the, that's, at minimum, that's probably like a good thing to keep in the back of your mind.

Like, maybe I shouldn't do this to this person.

Right.

If even if it's consensual, bad judgment on Mel Tucker's part.

Yes.

Now, also, I'm sure that like we're still in a perpetual state of waiting for the facts to come out.

It seems like she has a legitimate complaint if her side is to be believed too.

Right.

But it's like I don't I don't know who's telling the truth.

I don't know who's lying.

There's no possible way for me to know that.

And the buyout does, like, it needs to at least be mentioned.

Yeah.

It's part of the story.

It's a huge buyout.

If if Mel Tucker was winning games right now, would it be di like would it be different?

I don't know.

The timing was really strange for it to come out when it when it did in the 2-0.

So, Hank, we'll have a you'll have a full report on the findings on Friday as a Michigan State fan?

Maybe next Monday.

I got to see how this weekend goes.

Dig into it.

Also, we should mention Desmond Howard.

I want to see what the people at the bar think.

Desmond Howard on college game day when he lifted up the folding chair when he was picking Texas at Alabama.

He flipped his hat off, picked up the folding chair.

That was a great move.

Yes.

That was a solid move.

Yes.

But yeah, college football.

We got.

JMU, 2-0, received AP top 25 vote.

There you go.

Crazy game against UVA.

Yes.

Almost had a pick-two at the end of the game, the dreaded pick-two to cost us the game.

Also in the fun belt, Appalachian State and UNC should play every year.

Every year.

That's such a fun game.

No matter what happens, you're going to have a great time watching this game.

It's my auto over.

You went 2-0 on Saturday.

I did go 2-0 on.

Northwestern.

Yeah.

And on the wind cover.

Of course, yeah.

Me and Darren Revelle in solidarity, not tweeting about Northwestern football.

It doesn't matter who they play, Big Cat.

It's about academics.

It's about academics, not about who you're playing on the football field.

I would just hope that both schools have a high graduation rate.

Yes, yes.

All right.

Anything we missed on college football?

I mean, it's great that it's,

I think this week's slate is not the best.

Also,

the lightning delay is like,

I don't want to say,

you know what?

Say it.

Can we play through lightning?

Go off.

Let's play through lightning.

You think so?

Yeah.

That was crazy.

Oh, good point, Hank.

Well, if the fans can opt in, maybe put on the ticket stub, being like, if there's a lightning delay, we're going to keep playing.

The games were like, there were games that were in lightning day for like five hours.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I guess you can play through lightning if it's in a dome.

I think we should just do like a, maybe we just, we just do a poll.

Maybe we put it on the ballot for next

November when everyone votes for president.

We just be like, are they allowed to play through lightning delays?

Yes or no?

Simple ballot question.

I mean, if they, a Jets quarterback would definitely get hit by lightning.

Oh, 100%.

I don't know.

I just, maybe it's case by case, but that was a lot of lightning delays.

I feel like you just play through lightning.

Global Global warming.

Global warming.

That's one way to get the South to be like, yeah, global warming's real.

If college football games start to get delayed on a very regular basis,

then they'll be like, whoa, we got to do something about this.

Why don't they just have every college football stadium has just like a huge antenna that they can put up when lightning's there and they'll strike that?

I like that.

Also,

the Ferenc offensive tracker on the air.

Yeah, not good.

They're behind pace right now.

Big time.

Is it Brian Ference?

Yeah, Brian Forence.

To keep his job, he has to average 25 points a game, correct?

And seven wins.

And seven wins.

They're good on that.

Right now, I think they're averaging, what, like 22 points a game?

Yes.

So he's got a lot of work to make up.

The good news is for him, I think they're playing, are they playing Utah State this week?

No, Utah State was week one.

That was week one.

Who are they playing against?

They only scored 24 points.

Yeah.

They need to.

They're playing somebody that they should beat the shit out of this week.

They are playing Western Michigan.

There you go.

So

that's my bet this week.

I'm going to take whatever the Iowa team total is and bet the over on it because Ferenc Ferenc is going to keep his guys in.

Like, he knows in the back of his head, if it's late in the third quarter, early fourth quarter, they're up by 20 points.

He's going to be like, We need to score some more points right now.

Yeah, because they also have Penn State next week, and that's going to be tough.

And then, obviously, you just circle like the Wisconsin game and the Minnesota game, those just scream 12 to 9.

Yeah.

So, yeah, he's gotten to the explosion this week for Iowa.

He's got to start

making some points out there.

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Hot Si Cool Trone Hank.

Hotsi is Mike Babcock.

Oh, yeah.

Explain this to me.

So this story was broken by esteemed journalist and colleague, Paul Bizonette.

Okay.

He got a text from

Paul.

Lunch break.

Paul Bizonet on the Spit and Chicklets podcast.

He got a text from a player that told him that Mike Babcock was calling players into his office and having him

pull up their pictures and he was like showing them on his TV screen and just going through their photos basically to see like what they were about.

Should we do that?

So he reported on the podcast.

They talked about it.

They said, you know, he got a text from a player.

It was a legitimate source.

Imagine if Jake had a cock picture.

I got nothing to hide.

Okay.

Wait, like on their phones?

Yeah.

Whenever he was officially like, show me your phones.

And then he was like airplaying it to the TV and having them go through these pictures.

Christ.

So that's what they reported.

And then the Blue Jackets have kind of

vehemently, whatever.

Venomantly,

vehemently come out against it.

It's a lot of venom.

They put out a statement and they said, while meetings with our players and staff, I asked them to share off their phones family pictures as part of the process of getting to know them better.

Why?

There was absolutely nothing more to it than that.

The way this was portrayed on the Spit and Chicklas podcast was a gross misrepresentation of those meetings and extremely offensive.

Why?

It was offensive.

I don't know.

Mike Babcock is saying that he wanted to get to know his players better.

You know what?

You know what you could do?

You could just be like, hey, how's your family?

Yeah, do you have to?

Tell me about your kids.

Yeah.

What do you like to do in your spare time?

Yeah.

If we asked memes to do that, it would just be pictures of Max.

Yeah, just Max's face looking sad everywhere.

Did you take any selfies last night?

No,

no, no, no selfies.

It is, if true, that's such a diabolical.

And obviously we side with our guys.

Yeah, Biz tweeted, he said, we're a players podcast.

You want to fuck with the players.

We're going to bend you over.

No spit, no lube, sand, paper, finish.

Oh, hell yes.

That's a journalist right there, folks.

That's a Big J journalist.

Get him, Biz.

Love that, Biz.

But I loved, yeah, after the fact it came out that this wasn't even just in Columbus, like he's done this in the past.

That's crazy.

I'm definitely on this chiclet side with this.

We should get to see Mike Babcock's phone, right?

What's on your phone, Mike?

Yeah, show it to the press.

Everyone else's pictures because he had them plug in.

So it's like, do you trust this laptop?

Show us your DMs, Mike.

Yeah.

And then my other hot seat was Patrick Mahomes.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

He had a little fucking man, right?

Yeah,

he tweeted after the Rodgers injury.

He said, hate that man.

Praying for the best.

He then edited.

He forgot a comma.

It was supposed to be a bad thing.

Happens to the best of them.

Man, praying for the best.

Yeah, fucking a man.

Fucking a man.

Yeah.

So I'm hungry.

He's verified.

I got the edit button.

My tweet still stands.

Is it still up there?

Yeah.

Fucking a man.

Fucking a man.

Steph Curry.

That's all he's doing.

My cool throw.

No, you didn't even say Steph Curry.

No, but it was

fine.

Yeah, I said clear as day.

He hit a three, and I was like, fucking A, man.

My cool throw is USA basketball.

Yeah, yeah, I had them too.

So I have another one if you want to talk about that.

No, you can talk about it.

LeBron is coming to save the day.

Now, is this LeBron?

Because LeBron in the past has said.

But LeBron's taken all the credit.

He has said, like, oh, the Slam Dunk contest is so awesome.

I'm going to do it next year.

Yeah.

He says now that he's going to play on Team USA next year.

This is just an ultimate future me problem.

He's like, he's making a promise just to make the promise.

It's like Scott's Tots.

And then then next year he's going to come around.

He's going to be like, yeah, but I just got done playing full NBA season.

We went to the playoffs, maybe into the second round.

Do I really have to play?

You know what's coming, too.

LeBron has recruited everyone.

That was the report.

LeBron recruited everyone to come back.

Coach K is going to try to fucking get himself in this.

He's going to get himself in this.

Who's the Kerr head coach?

Steve Kerr?

Steve Kerr.

What's his son's name?

Nicholas.

It's Coach K.

That's the first thing I thought of.

I was like, Coach K is going to weasel his way in this.

Yeah, they're all

they're all going to

get the gang back together and be like, Yeah, here we go, Coach K coaching the boys up.

Then, my last chill throwing is PS5s.

Yes.

Yeah, Hank.

We have three golf videos coming out this week.

We shot them a couple weeks ago.

And in the scramble, we did a four-man sub-par did my take scramble.

Four of us tried to go sub-par.

That's coming out on Thursday in the live chat.

If you're in the live chat commenting, we're giving away four PS5s.

This is legit.

I have one sitting in my house right now.

Well, if we hypothetically finish a break.

Yeah, I'm going to keep it myself.

Yeah.

It's my PS5, and if I want to give it away, or we have to give it away, we will.

I've got one.

It's on my couch.

It takes every ounce of strength to not just play it, not to just be like, I can't wait to test it.

I got to test it before I give it out to the people.

I don't want to give them a broken PS5.

And here's the beautiful thing: is that when we go sub par on the video, I will take a video of me playing my PS5 in all of your faces.

So you guys win either way.

Either get a video of us playing our PS5s or four people who comment in the live chat, get a PS5.

We can play it, though, right?

Like, even if we hypothetically don't go under par, me and you can still play our PS5s before we give them away.

It's more valuable.

Yeah.

Again, game use.

I've opened my PS5 and I've played it.

Game used PS5.

Yes.

Because we were going to go sub-par.

Yep.

Yeah.

Okay.

Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday.

Part of my Tick YouTube.

Oh, we're ripping them like that.

So what's the order of the drop?

Don't stress the Ryder Cup.

Yeah.

What order are the videos dropping?

Tonight is, or Wednesday night, tonight, silent scramble.

Me and PFT versus Big Cat and Jake.

No one's allowed to speak.

Thursday night, subpar to my tick scramble.

Saturday, speed golf.

Which was quite something.

Exhausting.

Could be a banger of a video.

All of them will, but I think that was the most fun I have.

I think the first one's going to be great.

They're all going to be be great.

Yeah, they're all going to be great.

Sound scramble.

Yeah, they're all going to be great.

Okay, PFT, your hot seat, cool throw.

My hot seat is Travis Kelsey.

Ooh.

Travis Kelse is on the hot seat because he's been rumored to be actually dating Taylor Swift.

Remember after he went to their concert?

He was like, hey, I was trying to find you, give you my number.

Turns out they chatted.

Loki, they've actually been seeing each other.

Quietly is what the report said.

Quietly.

They've been quietly seeing each other.

And so Travis, obviously, on the hot seat for obvious reasons.

Taylor Swift's fans are fucking insane.

And this is coming from a guy who had his most recent super fan go to prison for 30 years for bank robberies.

Swifties are way more dangerous than the

Chiefs of Holocaust and Kelly Keyes in the same conversation.

Probably.

Probably.

And I can't wait for Taylor's next album to come out so we can analyze the lyrics, see which ones are about Travis Kelsey.

I think it's going to be 1989.

Throwing a touchdown.

It's going to be 1989 reissued, right?

The Taylor's version.

So it's all old songs, but I'm going to go through all of them and pretend like they're all written about Travis Kelsey.

Apparently, she's making an announcement tonight.

What kind of announcement?

She's performing at the VMAs, and she's reportedly making an error.

That's what.

If you're over the age of 30,

I'm begging you, do not watch the VMAs.

They make you feel so old.

Just a constant night of who are these people.

So we'll see.

Yeah.

I don't want to do that.

Okay, who's your cool throne?

My cool throne is going to be USA basketball.

Yes, yes.

I'm going to say that.

My hot seat is, first of all, the AWLs because they're a bunch of sickos and perverts.

How many people watched the

episode on Monday?

It was 100K in less than 12 hours.

So thank you.

Hopefully, everyone subscribes.

Please subscribe.

But yeah, you guys are.

We're at 150 right now.

151.

You guys are perverts.

You're perverts.

Subscribe.

Subscribe, though.

That's really the point.

Is if you enjoy watching us be miserable, please subscribe.

We'll be very miserable this year.

Please subscribe.

And then my other hot seats is Joe Biden because

President Trump has declared that he is ready for a fitness test against him.

Need this.

I need to true social.

He wrote, I will name the place in the test so he gets to decide the test, and it will be a tough one.

Nobody will come even close to me.

We can also throw some physical activity into it.

I just won the senior club championship at a big golf club with many very good players.

To do so, you need strength, accuracy, touch, and above all, mental toughness.

Ask Brett Baer, a very good golfer.

The Wall Street Journal and Fox are damaged goods after their failed desanctimonious push and a stupid $780 million settlement.

Morons.

I would love to see an NFL combine for presidents.

Yeah.

Like have them run the 40-yard dash, do the three-cone drill, broad jump,

high jump, wonderleg test.

What's the one that

Bryce, or that CJ Stroud did bad at?

The recognition test?

Yeah.

Biden would put up some C.J.

Stroud type numbers on that.

They should just play guess who.

Yeah.

The strength, accuracy, touch, and above all, mental toughness.

They should play golf at Bedminster.

Would Trump shoot like a 71 the other week?

Couldn't you just fix the

six handicaps?

I don't understand how the debt ceiling works and everything, but if you did a pay-per-view,

$50 pay-per-view to decide the next president, golf match,

I feel like we'd be out of debt.

What are six handicaps, Hank?

Dementia, Alzheimer's,

Vertigo, ice cream, balance, hair, sniffing hair, sun.

Either way, I'm ready for the physical challenge.

I'm ready for the physical challenge.

I would also like to see Hunter Biden and Donald Trump Jr.

get into the ring together.

Yeah.

Or Baron.

Or Baron.

Dude, Baron, okay, so Baron for Baron might play on the USA basketball team next year.

He's a soccer guy, though.

How awesome would that be if Baron Trump was the first overall pick in the NBA draft?

We were right.

We were right.

It was Cooper flag.

Yeah, Cooper flag.

All right, and then my cool throne is Skip Bayless because Shannon Sharp can't stop calling Stephen A.

Smith Skip.

He did it again today.

That has to feel so good if you're Skip Bayless.

Oh, yeah.

To be like, my ex is just thinking about me all the time.

It was so funny because it happened the first week.

And now we're, whatever, two or three weeks into them doing a show together.

And you can see how angry Shannon Sharp is at himself when he does it.

Yeah, and it's usually in a moment where he's like upset at Skip, at Shannon Sharp.

Or sorry, where Shannon Sharp is like upset at Stephen A.

Smith.

And it's just in his reflex.

And when he's pissed off at another guy and arguing, he just calls him Skip.

Like, if you've ever had a dog, you'll call your next dog by your previous dog's name, usually when they're doing something they shouldn't be doing.

Yeah, I mess up my kids' names all the time like that.

I'm like, Leroy, get down.

Oh, wait, that's Blake.

It's when you're mad.

Everything you just said.

And he needs to stay his ass off social media.

Because here's the thing, Skip.

Steve, Steve.

Bang!

Seven years, bro.

It's okay.

Don't listen.

Don't worry about them children.

Steve.

Don't break that bracelet, though.

That's what I'm going to do about a few days.

He's like trying to coach him through.

He's like, don't worry.

You just got to have a long relationship.

It's okay.

Is that going to happen out with Skip?

Is Keyshawn going to call?

No, Skip would never.

It's not as easy to say like Stephen A.

Yeah.

Skip just rolls right off the tongue.

Skip.

Come on, Skip.

Yeah.

Skip.

Either way, that's a big win for Skip Bayless.

Yeah.

All right, Jake, finish this off.

Hot seat, cool thrown.

My hot seat is Brian Dable.

Reportedly, he threw a party at his house Saturday night.

Oh, who reports this?

Michael Kay.

Okay.

So, they lost Michael.

Michael K should worry about the Yankees.

They lost 40 love.

40 love.

40 love.

Nice.

Oh, you ripping from Frank to Tank now?

Why?

He tweeted that.

He was like,

the U.S.

Open, the Giants are down 40 love.

Yep.

But the party probably rocked.

Yeah.

Also, it was a night game.

Yeah.

Yeah, they had plenty of time to recover.

Yeah.

That's fine.

Wait, were the players there?

I don't know.

I think a coach should be allowed to have a party before a game.

Losing 40-0 is just so.

The work is done.

Yeah.

Who do the Giants play this week?

That's got to be.

I mean, you have to.

Imagine if they go a couple weeks out.

They're at the Cardinals.

Oh, okay.

So that's get right.

That's get right.

Yeah, yeah.

Let's get right.

Okay.

Did you see the videos of the Cardinals?

Some people put together some compilations of the Cardinals against the Commanders.

Yes.

I told you after the game, like, they were trying to hurt Sam Howell.

They really were.

That defense is going to be...

You don't want to play against the Cardinals' defense this year.

You might beat them, but they're going to beat the shit out of you.

That one clip when the guy put Sam Howell in a figure four leg, yeah, yeah, and just dropped his head with something else.

All right, what's your cool throne?

My cool throne's the wild meter.

So, big hot your team, the Chicago Cubs.

They called up the number one prospect.

Yes.

Pete Crowe Armstrong.

Yes.

His mom was an actress, or I don't know, was, still is.

The mom in Little Big League.

Actor.

These pen.

I think they're all actors now.

So Thespa.

I think that happened recently.

Oh, wow.

Hey, my apologies.

Yep.

Please correct that.

Yep.

Maybe notes app.

Yep.

She was the mom in Little Big League.

Yes.

Which is crazy.

She was.

Great movie.

Would be cool if she was the mom in Rookie of the Year.

Rookie of the Year.

But Little Big League was also awesome.

Oh, I thought the entire time that she was the mom in Rookie of the Year.

The one about the movie.

That's not that wild.

That's not that wild.

Little Big League, better movie, I think.

Yeah, very good manager.

Yeah.

So it's not even that wild.

I'm off.

No, not that wild, Jake.

I thought

she was called.

If Pete Crow Armstrong was on the the Twins, it would be Wild Meter off the chart.

They should trade him to the Twins.

Yeah.

Or she should get her IMDbs changed to be the mom in Rookie of the Year.

Mom in Rookie of the Year, you don't want to mess with her.

She threw the stepdad out of the house, right?

Or the boyfriend?

Yeah, no, she was a badass bitch.

Yeah.

She was a girl boss.

I like both of them.

Yeah.

Eagle.

Both actors.

Yeah, no, it's big.

Big call-up.

Big call-up.

Cubs are

fighting.

Cubs fill these collision course.

Oh, man.

Max muttered the other day.

He's like, I'm sick sick of these fucking inter-podcast things.

Well, that was when the Eagles were looking bad.

Yeah.

No, it will be hell for you if the Cubs beat the Phillies.

Yeah, no.

That's the worst case scenario of my whole life.

Hopefully the Cubs pass the Phillies and we can go to the games.

I don't hope that.

Why?

No, I'm saying that's worse than losing the Super Bowl.

No.

Or losing the MLS championship.

Or losing to the Celtics.

Or getting no hit in the World Series.

I think it would go.

Or having to shave your face and looking fat.

The shaving of the face did suck.

But just as a team standpoint, I think it would go Super Bowl then this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Although the Celtics suck too.

I don't know.

Everything about your life sucks.

But it's also like we should have lost to the Celtics.

Like the Phillies are better than the Cubs, which would make it worse if they lost.

True, true.

But you were also up your up series against

3-2 and Jesus.

That sucked.

Yeah, no, the Celtics.

And you also had the MVP.

I forgot that they were up 3-2.

I also lost Rosh Moore.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, next.

Shout out Bryce Harper.

He had a beautiful tribute to 9-11 yesterday.

What did he do?

He just tweeted 9-11-01.

Yeah, shout out.

Was that better than...

Was it Spaghetti's?

That was it.

He just tweeted the date.

I think Spaghetti's was on Pearl Harbor Day.

Yes.

Where they had a cartoon Spaghetti saluting the American flag.

You also might be thinking of Bryce Hall.

Was it Bryce Hall?

Oh, no.

You are definitely thinking of Bryce Hall.

Oh, shit.

yeah

that's even crazier was he even alive for that probably notio to oh that's where i that's where i saw it i saw it because of uh old grierzy a great twitter follow uh yeah it was bryce hall

all right bryce harper i'm sorry you're still the man i mean i it was a nice tribute yeah just 91101 no you don't say anything else no yeah it's just there uh okay let's do uh our interviews we got steve smith and then billy Football.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.

He is an analyst on the NFL NFL network.

He also is

a future Hall of Famer.

It is wide receiver Steve Smith.

You should be in the Hall of Fame.

I'll start there.

We've had this.

This isn't just us pandering to you right now.

When you were snubbed a couple of years ago, we said Steve Smith is a bona fide Hall of Famer.

This is ridiculous.

If you watched him play, you know he was a Hall of Famer.

How are we feeling about getting into Canton, which you deserve?

You deserve it.

At first, you know, I kind of felt some type of way but realistically i think um you know this is not a candid answer it's really a it's a real answer is

you know i'm really i think it's in god's timing and and the i would say a couple years ago i wasn't in a right perspective or mindset to really appreciate it i was more concerned about what i thought i deserved

And I see that watching all the other guys that go in and the guys who are ahead of me that I think deserve it as well.

um i'm actually okay when the time comes it comes i want to enjoy it i don't want to spend my time complaining about what i don't have yet or then when i get in there i'm you know one of those guys you go see that's why you can't but that's why you can't bring some of these folks in here because see how they act right um so i'm i'm actually comfortable when i get the call when i get the opportunity i'm gonna enjoy it but it's not my time

so you know just kind of chill with it and and and enjoy doing the jobs that I'm doing and having fun with that.

All right.

Good answer.

That's a good answer.

You are a first ballot Hall of Fame dog, though.

Like, you, you were the original dude's a dog.

All right, damn, no, I'll take that.

I agree with you on that one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If we're making a dog Hall of Fame, who else we got in there?

It's you.

You're in the Mount Rushmore of dogs.

But Dennis Rodman, dog.

Well, who else did you play with?

Who else did you play with that you're like, that guy's a dog?

He matches my energy.

There's a ton of guys.

I mean,

you know, obviously, I play with Luke.

I got the opportunity to play with Luke, Thomas Davis.

Dog, yeah,

man.

Uh, obviously, Terrell Suggs, hello, Dinada.

Um,

you know, you know, he doesn't get a lot of credit, but I think D'Angelo Williams, uh, for the small running back he was out of Memphis, he ran, he ran with passion.

John, Jonathan, um,

Jonathan Stewart Stewart, my dog.

I I like him.

I mean, it's really hard to really,

because it's a, when you're talking about Mount Rushmore, you're picking off people's opinion of other people.

And let's be honest, 2023, people's opinion matter and people's perspective matter.

And I think age, too.

The young kids

don't know history.

That's true.

And so,

but I mean,

there's a lot of fantastic football players.

Thomas Davis is a guy that doesn't get talked about enough.

When he broke his arm and he played in the Super Bowl with like stitches and shit.

It looked like a football.

In his arm.

Yeah, his forearm was a football.

He was.

Yeah, not a lot of people can do that.

Yeah.

So who in the modern game right now, if there's a wide receiver out there that you can look at?

There's none.

There's none.

There's no Steve Smith Sr.

out there.

And here's why.

There's a lot of football players out there who, listen, when I played this game, when I look at my game,

I don't want somebody to say, oh, he reminds me of me, because I played a different style of football, right?

And whenever that call comes, I want my name to be called, not, you know, like I'm not Randy Moss.

Randy Moss isn't me, not in the same category, but the names matter.

And there are different types of football players in the National Football League today.

that are 10 times better than me.

But there's also a type of way that I play that not a lot of guys play that way.

And so that's why I say there is none.

Like there's some guys who could run past some people, but there aren't a lot of players that are going to try to run past people, try to run over linebackers, crack back.

First of all, you can't crack back anymore.

So crack back on D-lineman.

The game has changed for the good, but I played in the air and I was taught to play a certain style of football.

And that's how I play.

And there aren't players playing like that, especially at the

wide receiver position.

Yeah, yeah.

So, we have some questions about this upcoming season, but I had a couple more about your career.

This is a dumb question, but Utah.

What is it about Utah at night?

It feels like anytime Utah plays a game at night, they get superpowers and they're able to beat anyone.

Can you feel that when you were playing at Utah?

It's like, oh, nighttime, this is our time.

We win.

Well, so what's funny is we didn't play a lot of night games because we were still the Mountain West.

So we weren't really considered.

Urban Meyer comes in and then Kyle Winneham takes over.

And we're getting players.

We're getting some really good players.

And

I go to Utah games a lot.

I'm on an athletic advisory board.

So some big games, I sit at the house and I watch it at home.

Because when I'm in the suite or I'm at the game,

man,

I'm salty when we lose.

You don't want a salty Steve Smith?

No.

So I just, when we lost to Oregon State at the Rose Bowl, me and my son, my firstborn, we went, bro, we got food and bought the food and we didn't eat it.

It was so sombering.

And

we got on the airplane, left the next day, and we kind of looked at each other and we were still not over.

Yeah.

I like that, though.

You're a real fan.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

And I am.

So that's why.

But I was at the USC game last year when they,

the overtime game, when Cam Rising came back.

Yeah, the sun went down.

The sun went down.

You guys literally, like, USC looked like the best team in the world.

And the sun went down.

And Utah was like, oh, yeah, it's our time now.

Yeah.

Gremlins, baby.

After midnight, look, the more you drink, the wilder we become, man.

So, um, the Utah Gremlins.

I like that.

Yeah, I like that.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, we want to talk a little bit about, about some some of your greatest hits over the years before we get to the modern-day NFL.

I didn't realize this, but you were teammates with Chad Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson.

In community college.

In Community College.

What were the two you like?

Did you win every game, like 50 to nothing?

So, so a lot of times, you know, I call myself a knucklehead.

I grew up in the inner city of LA.

Chad was a bounce back from Florida.

All I would say is

our junior college games were extremely interesting

about

meetings, practice, games.

I would say it was probably everything you would imagine as far as just knuckleheads, right?

Just guys that just trying to feel their way.

Community college are about a whole bunch of guys who don't take school seriously, who have to try to figure it out.

and have an opportunity to figure it out.

And we had a great coach, Coach Robert Taylor who passed away back in 2008.

But Coach Taylor was awesome.

He had coached Isaac Bruce actually went to Santa Monica Community College as well and went on

to Memphis.

So there's been a lot of guys come through the community college before Second Chance U ever went on Netflix.

There was a lot of guys that played in community college in LA

that went on to do some pretty decent things in the NFL.

Was Chad still eating McDonald's back then?

Chad will eat McDonald's to his grave.

It's crazy.

I love that.

It's crazy.

He's skinny.

He's still so skinny.

Yeah.

It's nuts.

So

you start your career, you go 1 in 15 with the Panthers.

Then two years later, you're in the Super Bowl.

Like,

when you're going through a 1 in 15 season, are you thinking, like, how the fuck do we get out of this hole?

And then watching the progress, did you feel it step by step?

Where you're like, wait, now we're a real team.

Because 1 in 15 is really bad.

That was a really bad team.

that's a nice way of saying that one and 15

was tragic it was tragic dog like if you want to say how you could trick off a you know like trick off a rookie year like so i was we were so bad at one and 15.

i went to the pro bowl that year

and on the pro bowl team we scored a touchdown and i was ready to go out there and they were like no steve we scored because i was so used to getting scored on didn't even know how to act I just automatically was like, oh, they have another touchdown.

So kickoff return.

They were like, no, we scored this kickoff.

It's like, oh, oh, my bad.

But then you guys built it.

And did you, did you feel it in the room?

Like, oh, okay, this is like, we're putting the pieces together.

What was the moment that you're like, this now is a team that won in 15, that was a totally different team.

We're now on the path to something different.

Well, you know,

that was where the mantra of keep pounding where it got born with Sam Mills.

George Seaford left.

Well,

he was let go.

Coach John Fox came in jack del rio you we had a lot of different people on there well on the on the

team and as head coaches that were from winning uh organizations and so taught us how to win um i remember

i remember we were in training camp one day and we had like three or four fights which i was not involved in um

no it was i was i really wasn't involved in those and

and coach fox like kicked us off the field.

He was like, that's why y'all were this, you know, blankety blank.

And this was when they didn't have,

this is when they didn't have restrictions.

So how it led up to it is we were doing something wrong.

So he started practice all over again.

And when I say started practice all over again, like stretch.

Like we had to line up and restretch.

And started.

And then, so then they started fighting again and then he kicked us all off the field.

So it was a, I believe, I may be exaggerating, but it was in Spartanburg.

It was hot.

It was probably like a three and a half hour practice that got cut short because we had to start all over.

But I just remember, I just remember that.

And I was like, wow, I've never, I've never got, we've never gotten kicked off the field as a team before.

And it was, it was pretty ironic.

And then, you know, we go on and start, become the cardiac cats and we start running the football.

So it was a lot, a lot until a lot went on that year that really showed me, you know, just how unique, how unique football can be if done right.

Yeah.

What about an on-the-field moment that season?

Was there a point where you were like, you know, the cardiac cats, like, maybe we just do have a horseshoe shoved up our ass.

Maybe we are, like, we're making our own luck.

This is a special team we got.

So I have a question.

How do you run a route with a horseshoe shoved up your butt?

Very carefully.

What does that feel?

You're going to look like DK Metcalf.

You're not going to be able to turn.

Just straight ahead.

I know you like DK, right?

I think you're high on DK this year.

Yeah, I like DK.

I was up in a training camp with him.

So

he's pretty good, man.

He's evolving into a well-rounded receiver.

And I say well-rounded just because, you know, we always see him talking about, everybody talks about his speed, but very few people talk about...

the craftiness of what he's been doing lately.

And I got to see that last year, this training camp.

it really showed me some stuff that he's been working on.

And

I'm pretty excited to see how it plays out.

So, let me put one team out there that no one's talking about.

I think you're a believer in this team.

The Bucks.

Have the Bucks found their quarterback in Baker Mayfield?

I wish I could, you take those glasses off.

That was a setup with that little snicker.

You love Baker, don't you?

I don't speak up that name, and I'll move on.

I do have a quote that you said about Baker Mayfield I wanted to read for you.

And maybe you could explain it.

You said...

I'm not going to explain.

Listen, do you explain all of the purchases at the Salvation Army you buy?

No, you don't.

No, no, I don't.

There'd be too many.

I just didn't know what a three-legged donkey looked like.

Like Baker, like Baker's.

That's the look that I'm getting from you right now.

All right, so

we can cross the bucks off the list.

So what would be the team?

Actually, I like Tom Boltz.

Okay.

I like Tom Boltz.

All right.

Is there another team that you actually think, like, if you're looking at a surprise team that not a lot of people are talking about right now?

Okay,

um, I think the Baltimore Ravens with Zay Flowers and OBJ, I'm excited about that.

Monkin, you know, they got off new offensive coordinator.

Um, I'll tell you one of the things: what are the Indianapolis Colts going to do with Jonathan Taylor?

Um, I'm interested in that.

Um, Miami Dolphins, uh, their

offense got faster.

Seattle Seahawks, if they can get a pass rush generated,

I think they're going to be pretty good.

Their secondary is bananas, bro.

I'm talking about their secondary is very dangerous.

Woolen is

he's not getting a lot of credit, but that young man, I spoke to him personally, and he feels like he's not getting the credit he deserves.

And watching him,

I think he's going to lock down some receivers this year.

You're one of the best.

You were known as one of the best trash talkers in the game.

Would you know when you got on the field that you had someone?

Like

you're talking trash.

You're like, oh, I'm in their head.

It's over.

It's going to be, I'm going to do everything I want today.

That's a, I think that's a cool question.

A lot of people always associate that with me.

And the crazy part that I kind of dislike that people associate that with me is a lot of times, you know, I grew up, I grew up in the inner city, you know, playing street basketball, street football, right?

And that's just kind of what you did.

Also, my mom is one of 13.

So I grew up in a huge family.

There's living, there's probably about 62 of us living.

Jeez.

That's on my mom's side.

And so, like, I watch folks play dominoes and spades and keynote.

And bro, I saw some grown folks say some things that were super duper inappropriate, right?

Yeah.

I grew up where the filter in my mom's last name is young and a young family did not exist we said how we we said what we wanted to say when we wanted to say it and as an adult that was probably pretty bad for me to hear now as a kid now that i'm adult because it really made sometimes me saying things on the football field like bro you you can't say that to people i told a guy one time um I blocked him and he did something and

Stewie actually told me he played college with him.

Stewie asked me a question.

He said, you know, what did that guy do to to you?

And Stewie, I told Stewie, I said, He was born.

And Stewie's like,

and it was, you know, I just kind of grew up like, you just, you talk crap.

And,

you know, sometimes it got a little bit out of hand, but it's just kind of how I am, you know?

I love it.

I mean, we're, we're a trash talk podcast.

I think that's part of sports.

I don't know.

Oh, yes, you guys are.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, why not?

It's part of sport.

It makes it fun.

It makes rivalries make sports more fun.

So, would you know, though, like, you're like, oh man, I got this guy.

Like this is, he can't handle my skill and my trash talking.

I never really assessed it that way.

I was just kind of in my own little world.

What's the right word?

Politically correct.

I was a little different.

How about that?

Okay.

You can go non-politically correct.

No, that's all God.

Goodell signs your checks.

He can still find you.

Yeah.

I just, I look back and I wish I didn't say some things because it was kind of like, man, that was kind of rude.

Like I've run into people that have told other people like man steve's no he's an a hoe

don't apologize i mean my favorite was ice up son was that off the cuff when you said ice up or did you

that was off the cuff yeah i mean it literally was off the cuff it was straight into the point and it was emasculating it was perfect you know wide receivers we kind of sit out on that island so we talk you know we think about a lot of things i'm a thinker and i like to I have bad analogies, good analogies.

I just kind of go with what I'm feeling.

Yeah.

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you're i feel like you're always in collateral damage when they they bring up the durrell rivus graphic that they show all the time of like

i don't understand how it's collateral damage Well, it's like it lists all the receivers that he shut down.

And I guess, you know, in a way, it's kind of like respectful to you that you're on that list of great receivers.

Listen,

I love Revis.

Me and him have talked several times, man.

I respect the heck out of him.

I know at the pro, I think at his Hall of Fame, they had my name on his t-shirts.

And my one thing to

someone sent me a picture of it.

I said, well, you need to walk up to his family and tell him it's Steve Smith Sr.

That was the only thing I had, right?

But the fact that they were like, oh, he shut me down to one catch, five yards.

To be honest, if you're going to sit there and and Google that information, and actually it's selective statistics,

because I played against him as a Baltimore Raven.

I played with him when he was with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

I recollect more than one catch for five yards.

But that's the one that they like to highlight on the back.

You just said, change it to Steve Smith Sr.

I remember when you changed the name on the back of your jersey to Smith Sr.

I said at the time, you're just bragging that you had sex.

You just want everybody to know that you had sex.

So he put senior on the back of your uniform.

What was, I'm sure there was something a little bit deeper than that.

What was the decision maker?

So, long story short,

my son, you know, Steve Smith Jr.

So every person in my family, their middle name, my boys.

So my oldest, my firstborn,

my first name is his middle name.

My son, Boston, his middle name is my wife's dad's middle name, which was his dad's first name.

And so one, I had to, I sought permission for my firstborn to ask him, was it okay if we named Deuce Jr.

But also,

Deuce was significant because at the time my wife got her tubes tied and we had had a failed adoption.

And so Deuce was like our little miracle baby.

So obviously Deuce was born through IVF.

And so it was a big deal for us.

Yeah.

And so it was a later part of

my career.

And

one of my best friends,

his name is Alan Beck,

the third.

And so his dad is Alan and his grandfather, Mr.

Beck, who passed away, actually married me and my wife.

he's kind of told showed me through the years of our friendship

that he's got some bills sometimes uh from his that was his dad's bills and so the senior and smith is really uh i'm joking but it's the significance of senior and junior is man i worked a very hard in in fixing my credit man and so yeah smith senior credit is over here and steve smith junior's credit is over there so you know that's

very smart

but i'm joking but i mean it's it's it's something significant it means it means something um to us and so that's really why it had nothing to do with like trying to brag any of that stuff.

It was, you know, we went through a failed adoption.

That was pretty significant impact on our family and

all the stuff that my wife had to do for IVF.

Man, it was a big deal.

Yeah.

How far can you get the inverted brim of your cap?

How far can you get it going?

Because

you've gotten pretty significant with it.

Has anyone at NFL Network been like, hey, Steve, can you just

wear your hat normal?

Because it's getting, I feel like you're going farther and farther.

Yeah, no, they've asked me, Hey, can you wear it right or can you not wear it?

And what's funny is that's a part of my deal.

If I'm in a suit, I dress up in a suit.

If I'm, you know, if I'm chilling, uh, like, what's funny is

that one right here, yeah.

Give it a little, yeah, give it even more, give it even more, see how far you can get it.

Well, you can't, no, you can't do it anymore because then it starts to put pressure on the temples right there.

So, so it's actually dangerous for your health while you're wearing your hat.

And

well, one of the one of my buddies one time was like, bro, you need to fix your ears.

When you do your brim, it messes up your ears.

I actually have small ears, so I took the hat off one time and he goes, oops, sorry.

That's just how my ears are.

That's good trash talk.

Who's your favorite?

Who's your favorite wide receiver to watch right now in the game?

I would say, you know, I wanted to say

Justin Jefferson, but then I'm super excited to see what Devontae Adams goes back and do.

I love the old heads.

And then I don't know how it's possible, but Tyreek Hill got faster.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

I'm excited to see Zay Flowers.

There's a lot of young guys.

And then obviously here in Carolina, Jonathan Mingo.

And it's just a ton of wide receivers.

The game has changed so much.

And wide receivers, 1,000, 1,200, 1,000 yards is nothing now.

You know, it's really in that 1,200, 1,300, 1,400 yards is where, you know, you kind of say, hey, this is a bona fide wide receiver, which is, which is crazy.

Yeah, does it make you mad ever seeing the rule changes and how much easier it is for wide receivers to play?

Absolutely not.

You know, a lot of young guys think I'm hating.

You know, they say all the old heads hate.

For me, I like it because it just gives me an opportunity to go more in depth, do better breakdowns, understand why a wide receiver got open, understand why a a wide receiver didn't get open.

Uh, so I'm not jealous of it.

I mean, it keeps me employed and kind of get to do some of my in-depth analysis that I enjoy actually doing.

Okay, so off that question and good answer.

Uh, what is the one thing about the wide receiver position that casuals don't really understand?

Whether it be technique, footwork, what like we're not casuals, we're not casuals, all the casual casuals out there, right?

We know the ball, but if you were to explain it, like what they get wrong the most Sometimes understanding like why or how a guy is running his route.

So there's a lot of little nuances that you will not know that happen or why receiver is running a route, running a deep over and doesn't look at the safety.

And so now he doesn't look at the safety, which means he gets too quick on the other side, which now if he gets too quick and it's a sprint out or a play action,

that means the spacing is out of line.

And so now he doesn't have the good spacing.

And so if the quarterback throws it because of the bad route or he didn't do an indicator step, then the spacing is bad.

Then the safety can come down and pick the ball because you gave the lack of good route running.

You gave the safety an indicator that you're running across the field and you didn't use your speed to keep making the safety backpedal.

Right.

So a lot of little nuances like that that people don't really realize that goes on that I love watching and allows me to assess: does this guy know really how to run his route for that play and know what the defense is to be able to manipulate?

Because

when a speedy wide receiver slows down, you have to know the game from the shoulders up.

When the shoulders down starts to lose a step.

Right.

And those are the things that I like to watch and try to predict and look at and assess to be able to know has a guy, right?

Like

when I was playing, when I was a young spring chicken, man, out of 70 plays, 50 plays, when I give you about 25, 30 plays, full speed, go.

As I got older and Father Times started knocking on the door, you know, when they knock on the door, they don't say, Hey, on Tuesday, you're going to lose your speed.

Hell, you just wake up on Tuesday and your speed is a step slower.

And so I learned when I was in Baltimore, man, I probably in Baltimore, I had probably about

seven, I'm not lying to you, seven

100% full speed routes.

The rest of the other plays, man, I had to manipulate and maneuver through my route because I didn't have the long

marathon speed I used to have when I was, you know, when I was 24, 25 years old.

Man, I was 36, 37, 35, bro.

You wake up some days, you're like, man, I would lift weights.

I would do my chest.

or my shoulders or my lats and my back was hurting.

Man, that's old age.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My back hurting from my last.

That doesn't make sense.

So, you know,

those are little things that I like to watch and try to see is a guy starting to taper off.

That's interesting that you brought that up.

I don't think I've heard a player talk about what percentage of routes they run in a given game at 100% speed.

And it can't be every single one.

You can't just sprint

and fill out every time.

So if you know that you're not the number, the primary read or the secondary read, let's say you're the third read on this play design, like I have to imagine most guys in the league are taking it easy on that play, right?

There's no one that's going full speed all the time.

I wouldn't say take it easy, but you're tempo, right?

Because you also, you don't want to, you don't want to run the same speed every route looking the same, because then they start to predict it.

So you can change it up.

So, but yeah, you tempo it up.

If you're the, I mean, if you're the decoy, there are some plays where you're the decoy, you got to run through.

You got to commit.

You got to run with integrity so you can protect your teammate.

So the safety doesn't, if, if you,

if you are Laxa Davis, going to route and the safety picks it up or the corner, he can kind of play in between and quarterback places the ball, throws the ball where he should be,

you can get your player laid out.

So, you know, everybody got to play their role.

It's a complimentary route running.

I would be so mad if I if I was a receiver and I was a DK decoy route and I just torched the defense and I knew I wasn't getting the ball.

That's a wasted rep right there.

Yeah, it is.

I used to call it killing grass.

It just makes you a kill grass.

But you have to do it because you also have to show your teammate who's when you're a number one wide receiver like I was, you got to also show that you're willing to sacrifice your routes too so those guys can ball.

Because if you don't do that, they're not going to do it for you.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, that's that's a great point.

I mean, it's a great answer.

I, you also were great at coming back to the ball and like when a play would break down.

Would you just, was that just instinct?

Guys who have that ability where it's like, I can find the little, like Travis Kelsey's great at that, where if a play play breaks down

dope at that that's yeah

yeah it feels like

it feels like he will always find that little soft spot in the defense is that is that something you learned or was that instinct that you were just better than everyone you have to learn it is instinct is trial and error uh also knowing how to read defenses and also knowing where you are in the routes right and knowing you know what your role is You know, there are times where you're the first progression and there's times where you're the third or fourth progression because you got to let the other guys eat so when the team say hey we're going to take you away you got to have somebody else that shows up because then they keep then next week that team goes oh we got to take this guy away and so that's why like miami can can be deadly because they have three or four wide receivers that you have to concern yourself with you can't just key on one guy right and and that's important that's san francisco 49ers with uh brandon iuk and debo sam

yeah

um back

in your playing days, I'm curious to know from your perspective as a wide receiver that, because the players always know who the other good players are, who's one wide receiver that we don't talk about with like Randy Moss, T.O., Ocho Cinco, yourself, like who's one guy that the players knew in the mid-2000s was one of the best receivers in the league that didn't get enough credit?

One of the best in the league.

That's a logo.

I'm not going to step on that landmine.

But I'll tell you a guy,

like keeping in my division, NC South, man, Marcus Colston, bro,

he was a problem to deal with.

Right.

Rodney White was good.

Michael Jenkins at that time showed up.

How about Algie Crumpler?

Yeah.

With the Atlantic Falcons.

Man, Algie will block you.

He wasn't going to, you know, he wasn't necessarily going to beat you on a foot race, but he just was creative.

He knew how to play the game.

You know, a Tampa Bay member when

this doesn't count with age, but man, Joey Galloway was like 50 years old running a 4-2.

You remember that?

He was so fast.

Yeah.

You know, Antwan Bolden, what he was able to do with the Cardinals alongside Raleigh Fitzgerald, and then what he did with Baltimore.

I mean, Peerless Price.

Remember Peerless Price or Eric Moes when they were at Buffalo?

Yep.

Man, I mean, I can go.

Obviously, Megatron, Roy Williams has some things.

Donald Driver was crafty in a slot with Green Bay.

Sheesh.

Roy Williams.

I haven't heard people talk about Roy Williams in a while.

He was really, really good.

Roy Williams had like,

he had like all the tools.

I thought that dude was going to be like all decade.

Yeah, that's it.

Can't jump the gun too quick, though.

No.

I mean, he was pretty good.

Yeah.

I got an easy question for you here.

When Cam Newton gets picked to the Panthers and you get that first text from him, are you like, dude, dude is this really how you text like is this the font that you're gonna use he wasn't so when we first got him he didn't he didn't do all the text that way that was

he picked that up later yeah he picked it up later interesting yeah

i just i wonder what made him start doing that i i think he has he has started his own uh

uh text thing but there's times in the past when he's texted me and i've joke with him like can you send me the decoder when you finish you know because i

don't understand

It might have actually been you leaving the Panthers, where he's like, oh, I know that Steve won't absolutely rip me to shreds in the locker room.

I'm free to text however I want to text.

Okay.

I'm telling you.

All right.

Well, this has been awesome, Steve.

I have one last question.

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Do you have a Super Bowl pick for us?

Do you have a Super Bowl and a champion?

No, I don't.

I do not.

Listen,

you could be wrong.

You could be wrong, and we'll just edit it out.

Don't worry.

No,

first of all, I have done an interview with a man with sunglasses on the whole damn time.

I ain't trusting y'all to edit this.

Okay, that's fair.

That's fair.

That's fair.

That's fair.

What about a team that didn't make the playoffs last year?

That's going to make the playoffs this year.

I think it's going to be wide open

with the Carolina Panthers.

I think they can sneak in.

I don't think they're going to be able to get

a chance to

no chance, all right.

What you don't believe that, yes, I do.

No, you don't.

They're gonna be the worst, they're gonna be the worst team in the league.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

they're gonna stink, they're gonna win three games.

Three games, they're gonna win.

Here's why, what did you did you just say three games?

Three games, three games.

If they don't win three games, first of all,

I'll come back two more times.

Okay, so let's so I so I can,

but it is, I don't want to pick Super Bowl because I was, when I do the Super Bowl run, like leading up to it, I, I systematically last year when I was doing my Super Bowl stuff, I picked the Eagles one time, picked the Chiefs the other time.

And when I was working, I was working at the Super Bowl and I said hello because I was working to both teams.

The Chiefs folks was like, huh, the Eagles gonna win, huh?

And they reminded me, I'm like, bro, I picked the Eagles.

That was like on Tuesday.

And so people remember.

So I'm not falling in that trap.

Okay, all right, you know what?

That was a good answer.

I'll give you four games for the Panthers.

Panthers are going to win four games.

That was nice of me.

They win more than four games.

That was nice of me.

I just gave you four games.

So, okay, so here's the deal: if the Panthers win more than four games,

whatever little promo you did, I want some joggers or something that you just did for free.

Okay, okay.

All right, done.

And then if I wanted my size, not schmedium.

Okay,

I want no, no, no, no sizes that uh you're trying to give to somebody with no butts at all.

Okay, okay.

We'll get you all hooked up.

And if the Panthers win four or less games, we want some Steve Smith signed hats with the brim and everything.

Absolutely.

Okay, done.

I want you to be the one that bends them, though.

And bent.

Yeah, I want video of you bending them.

They're Steve Smith-bent.

First of all, no one...

else bends my hat but me so i they will only be never bend another man's hat yeah we know that and and and there will be la LA hats because that's outside of when I'm working on network.

I only wear LA hats.

Okay, that's fine.

Perfect.

I look forward to getting a couple new hats.

I'll give you great.

How about an easy prediction?

Comeback Player of the Year.

You won the Comeback Player of the Year at one point, right?

Because

I put a little bit money on your boy Baker.

Yeah, can Russell Wilson win it for just being bad?

Yeah, that's kind of how the comeback player of the year has turned into that.

Okay.

So I think Russell Wilson has a great opportunity with Sean Sean Payton.

What about all these guys got injured?

OBJ, if he comes back.

Yes.

Yes.

Can Calvin Ridley win it for gambling on football?

Yeah, I think he can win it.

Matthew Stafford.

Let me tell you, that's another one.

Calvin Ridley is going to ball.

Yeah.

He looks good.

That's a man on a mission.

And some corners are going to have to deal with that man being on the mission.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, Steve, thank you so much.

We'd love to have you back on sometime in the middle of the season.

We can reassess.

Absolutely.

For my free stuff.

Yeah, you can start bending your hats.

But yeah, appreciate the time, man.

We're big fans of you.

And

we'll give the speech when you get into Canton if you want us to.

We're happy to do that.

Dog.

We'll just bark.

We'll just get up there and bark for 20 minutes.

Big dog or small dog.

Yeah.

We got it.

I knew as soon as I lobbed it up here, like, yep, I'll take the little, though.

All right, well, thanks so much, Steve.

Appreciate it, man.

Thanks, man.

I appreciate it, fellas.

Y'all do a hell of a job, though, man.

I'm really, I'm sincere.

Y'all do a heck of a job.

Thanks so much.

Appreciate that, man.

We appreciate that.

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And now, here's our exclusive interview with Billy Football.

Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.

It is

Billy Football to talk about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

We thought, given the fact that Aaron Rodgers played four snaps as a New York Jet,

we had to have Billy's take on it.

Let's start here, Billy.

We watched your live stream.

When Aaron Rodgers went down, you immediately, in very classic Billy fashion, you didn't accept truth.

You were like, he's just slowing the game down.

This is a ploy.

He's just slowing the game down.

At what point during the game were you like, wait, he actually might be injury, injured.

This isn't just some type of gamesmanship?

Well, there was a point when he stepped back off the cart.

Oh.

And he was put on the cart.

Okay.

And I was like, oh, man, he's come back out.

They like.

did whatever test they had to do and he was fine.

But then he just walked directly to the locker room.

Yeah.

And I was like, oh my God.

There were so many thoughts that went through my mind.

I thought that he like joined the Jets to purposely sabotage Woody Johnson because he made a vaccine one time.

I, I, there were so many crazy things.

I like the going from him coming out with an American flag in one of the greatest entrances since Mike Piazza on

George Bush to do throw like a six strike.

It was too high.

If you hadn't bought in on the Jets as a Jets fan, you did in that moment him running out with the flag i mean hard knocks you know sola talking about how amazing he was in a throwing montage from week two of hard knocks like there was so much hope and hype going up to that first drive and you know talking about the nfl script like the only one who could have written that script is al-qaeda

that's good take okay i like that so it was i noticed though it took it didn't take you that long to get back in the swing of things and start really pulling for your Jets.

Like, we can do this.

Come on.

Zach Wilson, his ceiling is literally Patrick Mahomes.

That's a fact.

If he plays to the best of his ability,

you got back on the Zach Wilson train pretty quickly.

Are you still?

You had to.

Yeah, I kind of agree with that.

Yeah.

You might as well just delude yourself because you have spent the last six months, maybe even longer.

Wait, are you saying,

delude yourself?

No, I'm about to say I think he was the better quarterback out there

last night

than who was on the other side.

He only had one pick.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

If you look at how Josh played last night, if you take Josh Allen, Zach Wilson, Aaron Rodgers,

Josh Allen objectively had the worst night between all three of those.

Playing.

No, just overall, Josh Allen's night was so bad that it was.

Well, still take Aaron Rodgers' night being the worst.

I'm making a joke.

I'm making a joke, but thank you.

Yeah, he definitely had a bad night, a really shitty night.

And Billy, you are correct that you have to delude yourself.

You have to buy back into Zach Wilson.

But what about the reports where it's like Josh or where it's like Zach Wilson is our guy.

We're going to ride with Zach.

Do you want to bring in a different guy?

So the thing is, something that we didn't do last season is that if Zach

Wilson.

Right.

But, you know, he mounted some stuff.

I think last night was better than, you know, what most have thought would have happened.

After the first pick, I freaked out.

I was like, no, this can't be happening.

It's happening again.

This is the first of five.

Like, make it stop.

Make it stop.

It was terrible.

But we just like, if Zach Wilson brings a win, we can't still complain.

We need to stay on his side because he's all we got right now.

Did he bring the win or did the defense bring the win?

And the running game.

And the puck return.

The thing is, like,

we won the game without a quarterback.

But the fact that he gave us one touchdown.

Wait, so Zach Wilson isn't a quarterback.

He was thrown in there last second.

No one's prepared.

He was literally dragged out.

He probably is the most upset that Aaron Rodgers get hurt, like, out of anybody, because he was supposed to just chill out this season, learn, have some pressure taken off him.

And it's like, oh, shit, you know, five minutes into the first game.

I'm now under the gun again.

Like, he's getting torn out, like that kid in that meme, getting woken up by the prison guards and scared straight, and he's just tweaking out.

But he handled it decently.

His pick was tough.

It was a bad read and under some pressure, but he made some decent throws down the stretch.

And Garrett Wilson made up for a lot of the lack of skill by making an insane grab.

Garrett Wilson played defense and offense on the same play.

Exactly.

It was an incredible, incredible job of taking a bad pass that should have been intercepted, tipping it back to himself for a touchdown.

He played like quarterback, cornerback, wide receiver, and volleyball on the same play.

It was incredible.

That whole game was such like a torture chamber of emotion.

Like going from that, you know, Wilson's pick,

three, four turnovers by Josh Allen.

By the way, the Jets' defense as predicted.

Incredible.

Punched him the fucking face.

Yeah.

Like he was rattled.

They rattled the fuck out of him.

They took the guy that was like running over defenses, like was big manning every defense in the league, and they punched him in the mouth.

He was, they're like, they're like Sean Strickland, and Josh Allen was Adesanya.

Oh, nice.

Billy's been watching sports.

He just let everyone know.

Yeah, if we if we power rank the division now, Billy, where do we have the Jets?

I feel like we can agree Dolphins number one, right?

As of right now, yes, but I think the Bills are definitely under the Jets.

And I think, you know, it's not like New England has competent quarterback play.

That's true.

Or Mac Jones played better than everyone in the FCEs besides Tua.

Well, that's only

better than two guys.

Aaron Rodgers later.

Josh Allen and Zach Wilson.

Yeah.

Aaron Rodgers.

That's three guys.

And I think we can agree that the Jets' defense and special teams.

Jones finished second in a race of four people.

Five.

No, but like, we don't know what to expect next week.

Correct.

That's true.

That is why we're watching the games.

You're right.

We don't know if Zach Wilson still sucks.

I think we do.

We don't know.

We don't know.

He's now a 24-year-old in the workforce.

That's true.

That's when you make the curve.

That's where you turn around.

How old are you, Billy?

24.

So Zach Wilson might go part-time.

Yeah.

And, you know, like, he was going part-time as a backup, but now he's getting thrown back into full-time.

You never know what situations you're going to be in.

But he handled it pretty well.

No one expected that, except Al-Qaeda.

Except Al-Qaeda.

He might get invited back onto the big show that he was on, is what you're saying.

You don't expect 24.

You just don't know.

Wait, so, Billy,

tell me what a good Jets season looks like now because the defense is elite.

Like, that was very clear last night.

They are one of the best defenses in the league.

Do you think that the Jets are a playoff team?

I mean,

as of right now, the nine and a half wins in the season goes down to six.

Oh, that's not a playoff team.

Right.

But next week, we might see that Zach Wilson has matured, has been able to get past some serious mental bounds.

Aaron Rodgers rubbed off on him.

You know, that, you know, mentor porn we saw in hard knocks over all the offseason may have worked.

I mean, I'm like...

Aaron Rodgers is gone.

We have to move past that.

I've, you know, went through every stage of denial about it, but, you know, we're just accepting what we have.

We might have the same team we had last year, just better.

Do you have any regards to that?

Zacharies may have gone better.

Any regards to you?

I'm with you, by the way.

Like, there's no, you have no other option.

Like, to bash Zach Wilson right now would be stupid.

It's like, you're in a shitty situation.

Injuries happen.

Let's fucking see what happens.

I'm 100% on board with what you're thinking is.

Yeah, and if they had lost.

The fact is, if they were just a little bit better than they were last year, they would have made the playoffs.

Right.

And so they had Zach Wilson.

So Zach Wilson, he doesn't have to be way better he's got to be just 24 he just has to be like almost as good as patrick mahomes he doesn't have to be better than him villain he's really different between a 23 year old and a 24 year old yeah what about real recruitment did you have before the game tweeting out a picture of your own achilles heel yeah i you did yeah i tweeted out a photo of my jet sock my joe namath jet socks and i just like took a picture of my achilles and i and like there's so many weird things that happened before the stream i was talking about how it doesn't matter that the Giants played the night before in MetLife because the turf's shitty anyway, so it's not like it's ruining anything that isn't ruined.

And the turf fucked Aaron Rodgers.

I mean, if you're Woody Johnson and you know, whoever owns the Giants, the Maras, change the fucking turf, get some good goddamn turf.

Can they change grass?

They put in brand new turf this year, but it's still not grass.

We know Aaron loves grass in hard knocks this year.

He was on the practice field picking up pieces of grass.

He was like smelling it, eating it.

He loves grass.

And now the fact that he was

that doesn't play on grass fucked him over.

So, Billy,

I got the schedule in front of me.

Let's just do up until the bye week because it's not easy.

Zach Willis is really thrown into it.

At Dallas this week, New England at home, Kansas City at home, at Denver, and then Philadelphia.

That's tough.

I was thinking before this game that that primetime Chiefs game was going to be like serious deciding factor.

Like, is this a real team with Aaron Rodgers at the helm?

Now, I'm just hoping that we, you know, pick off a win versus Dallas because that's going to be a weird time with a week of Zach Wilson in the driver's seat.

Yep.

And then who do we have after that?

Patriots?

Patriots.

That's going to be, you know,

that's a mind fucker.

Yeah, you haven't beaten that.

How many years?

Wait, is it in New England?

Do you have to know the Lighthouse?

It's in New York.

Yeah, I mean, those tickets are cheap now.

I was actually looking at them.

Oh, they are?

They're so mad about the lighthouse.

You're obsessed with the lighthouse.

No, Europe is obsessed with the lighthouse.

It's a staple of the New England Patriots.

That's a common, like, it's the

lighthouse.

You might have to build a second lighthouse because the Jumbotron was too big for you.

You like this, PFT?

It's the biggest lighthouse in the world.

I just like that.

Is that a fact?

Is that false?

That might not be true.

Yes.

It's kind of like saying that the Statue of Liberty in Las Vegas is the second biggest statue in the world.

It's the tallest lighthouse in America.

The tallest lighthouse in America is is not the world.

It is to me.

But it's not a real lighthouse.

It's a stadium lighthouse.

It's got lights in it.

It's got a bell in case people see stuff coming off the coast.

You need to have someone living in it, though, for it to be a lighthouse.

The house part is half of it.

Biggest lighthouse in the world.

Billy, I'm just going to throw a couple names at you.

Okay?

You tell me if you get a little rush of blood to your wee wee on this one, okay?

All right.

Carson Wentz.

No, I did see someone, uh, some NFL writer, it was a very funny tweet.

They're like, the Jets should sign Carson Wentz and tell him none of this bullshit, off-script stuff.

If you don't see it, eat it, and this is his last chance to compete, and he'll probably comply.

It's like, what?

Excuse me?

Oh, he won't.

Have you ever seen Carson Wentz play football?

It was like,

what is this plan you put out there?

So I tweeted out the picture of the Carson Wentz Letterman jacket Photoshop yesterday just to fuck with Jets fans.

But then I thought that would actually destroy me if Carson Wentz went to the Jets and won a Super Bowl.

That would absolutely destroy me.

So I hope he doesn't do that, Billy.

Nick Foles?

Nick Foles?

The only person who would

get my interest.

And look, I'd rather die with Zach Wilson than just throw, you know, one of these guys in and just have some shit show happen because that just feels worse.

Like, Zach Wilson seems self-inflicted.

Whereas, if you just bring another guy and it's a shit show, it's just like, fuck.

Right.

So, who's your guy?

Someone who has a lot of family-based here.

Tom Brady.

He's talking about Tom Brady.

I mean, it could be.

He is the only one.

His kids are here.

His kids are there.

He has a place.

That's the only person where it's like, yeah, let's take a chance on that.

But, you know, we got a ride with Zach Wilson.

You know, Flacco is hanging around out there if we just want to have him there to just be dad.

Somebody else to rub off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What about Jameis?

No, dude.

You know, dude, the thing is, Jameis, like acting up, doing Jameis is fine when you're not in a Jets uniform.

Okay.

You know, the Jetson.

You're not a higher standard.

No, no, it's not a higher standard.

It just will look stupider.

Butt fumble.

I don't.

Like, if Jameis is running around jumping like in a Jets uniform, it's yeah.

I think Billy's right, but not for the reason why he says that he's right.

It will be magnified in New York because

of the history of bad, weird Jets quarterback play, not because you expect more out of him.

The New York Post, like if something weird happens, it will be national news.

It's not like

that's what happens.

Okay.

About Bortles.

Ooh.

He's got a history with Hackett.

Well, yeah, with Hackett.

That he would be.

because can you text bordles and see if he's yeah what about what about what about kyle orton no he's too old what about kaeperner bordles retired billy i don't know if you saw that yeah

he's doing

houses

yeah he's he's building houses did you know that that i did know that

i thought i thought it was just confirmed like in the new thing but he double the clicks he confirmed it by saying it i know but you knew it you would have met

then seen doing it by a third party.

I don't think he was seen doing it by a third party.

I think the third party just listened to the podcast.

I have to admit, I had forgotten about that.

I got me.

Yeah.

Clicks are clicks.

Okay, so who else?

What are their names?

I saw Case Keenum throwing out the name.

Chad Kelly.

Chad Kelly.

He's a big CFL player.

Ooh, I like that.

Andy Dalton would be sick.

You know, it'd be funny if they got Kaepernick, but to offset all the haters of Kaepernick, they also got Thibault at the exact same time.

Let him compete.

Honest, open competition.

Two best quarterbacks at victory formation, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

The media circus around that would take a lot of heat off of Zach, and he might actually be able to do something.

Billy, who you should actually get, who you should actually try to go for.

And never in a million years would this happen until later on in the season.

If the Vikings have a bad year, you should try to make a play for Kirk Cousins.

It's his last year under contract in Minnesota.

And so he's going to be a free agent after it's kind of like what baseball does, where it's like, okay, if you have a valuable asset, you're not competing, you can sell one of your guys, try to get something back for them before they hit free agency.

It's not going to happen in Minnesota.

Probably, they wouldn't deal him probably for the entire season, most likely.

But if they start out with a really shitty record, you should make a case for that.

That's also better.

He'd fit in well, but I mean, there's there's nothing we got to ride with Zach Wilson.

And then, when, if he wins but performs badly, we need to not give him a hard time.

Right.

And you wouldn't.

So it's really a message to all Jets fans.

Just please.

Please.

Jets fans.

This is all we got.

We have to make the best something out of nothing.

Like, he is the most qualified person right now.

He's been

offseason.

He knows the offense.

He knows the personnel.

You know, he got thrown into a crazy, and he made some decent throws.

Yeah, but Billy, I wouldn't say that's like the most qualified person.

He's the most available person.

If I'd been hanging out with porn stars all summer, I wouldn't be like, yo, I'm the most qualified person to shoot pornography.

Yeah.

I don't have the skill set.

Well, it's the most available second-team reps with them.

You might be a little more qualified.

You might not get stage right or something.

I just think that there's probably some better options out there, but the Jets do, after saying Zach's our guy, we're going to try try to go with Zach, you at least have to try to roll with Zach for at least one week.

Yeah.

And the good news is the Cowboys' defense isn't that good.

Right.

But the real thing is, honestly,

yeah, they are.

I mean, they shut out the Giants.

Yes.

But

fuck.

The thing is, if Zach Wilson has a bad game against the Cowboys,

and like it's a decent, like, okay, tough game.

We got one more chance.

The thing is, fucking Bill Belichick is going to do some weird shit psyop,

like, inexperienced quarterback thing where he's going to break him, and everyone's going to be like, Zach Wilson can't be the starter.

But, like, the thing is, if he plays next week at the Broncos,

Chiefs, also not a very good team.

Shit.

Fuck.

It's a brutal schedule.

Yeah, it is.

That's a brutal, brutal schedule.

You know what?

It's actually a brutal.

It's a worse schedule for us as football watchers.

Yeah.

Because we have to watch five more games of New York Jets in primetime this week.

Yeah, we we have Jets Chiefs primetime.

We have Jets Chargers primetime.

We have Jets Raiders primetime.

We have Jets Browns primetime in week 17.

Some of these can be flexed, by the way.

That's a lot of prime time.

I mean, we won last night, but at what cost?

Everything.

It would have been better almost if they lost.

Yeah, to lose if a healthy Aaron Rodgers and a loss would have been better.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Crazy doink.

Crazy doink, dude.

Crazy.

Do you think Aaron's going to retire?

Do you think he's played his last football?

Good question.

I mean, it depends on how

it depends on how bad.

Like,

from what I've heard, a rupture is just black and white.

Like, it's either full-blown or it's nothing.

And he's had some calf problems in that same leg during the preseason stuff.

And I don't know if they're connected, but I don't know how you get back into a training camp as at 40-year-olds.

Like,

it's like sounds like

I woke up this morning and thought the whole thing was like a nightmare.

Yeah, yeah, at least you had this offseason.

This offseason was we get the first-round pick, we get the first-round pick because he didn't play 65% of the snaps.

Yeah, it goes to a second to the Packers.

Um, I have one last question for you, Billy.

Uh, you're looking good, you're looking skinny.

Is that because you're not just getting free meals from us?

No, I'm gonna be honest:

Sleep.

Sleep.

Oh, nice.

We worked you too hard.

Nice.

Just sleep, baby.

Did you miss us Sunday or no?

On Sunday, it was weird.

It was weird.

You were at a beer garden.

Well,

yeah.

Dogs won.

Yeah, yeah.

Give us a pre-lock.

Yeah, pre-speaking.

Are we going to win?

Are we going to win the championship again?

Dude,

we're going to Philly.

I suggest you guys go to Philly too in two weeks.

It's

insane.

What day is that of the week?

It's a Sunday, but it's only one game.

But it's not during football, right?

It's during.

But like the one o'clock game sucked this weekend.

Yeah, but you did that.

You weren't watching them.

I was.

I mean, I was doing my duties as ownership representation.

Am I still technically ownership?

Yes.

Okay, perfect.

But we were watching Red Zone and other stuff.

Got it.

Yeah, I liked how you did pre, like, you're like, these games suck anyway.

Yeah, it was, I mean, it sucks not being able to watch all the football.

So then you just see the highlights and they're all blowouts and it's like, uh, yeah.

But, uh,

yeah.

All right.

By the way, also, I didn't mess up the studio.

Can we just get this on?

Billy, make sure they don't throw away the octopus, please.

Also, the lottery ball machine.

Yes.

Also, my Zach Wilson jersey got sent to you guys.

I was looking for it today.

Apparently, it got sent to you guys.

Okay.

Chicago.

It's only you had all the time in the world to take whatever you wanted from the studio.

Well, I didn't know Zach Wilson would be starting again.

Oh, but like we, as if we didn't want it.

No, we don't want it.

Should we burn it?

Should we burn it and then maybe tweet it from your account?

No.

I kind of want it now.

I kind of want to burn it and be like, Billy had us do this.

Yeah.

Just don't let them throw away the octopus.

Yes.

Okay.

Can I have the squat rack?

Do you guys need that?

No, go for it.

You can have that.

That's all you want.

You need another one of those.

Yeah, Billy, you do look kind of thin is there is there anything else you want to tell us about your body are you gonna get like dual dueling squat racks in your apartment what's going on inside your body

i'm just gonna enhance my current squat rack got it yeah um so remember like a year ago i got bit by that tick yeah yep for work i'm allergic to red meat oh yeah this is the plug this is the plug you need yeah yeah yeah hey billy what Grit Week is here, and we're not just showing up.

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Billy, thank you so much for joining us.

Do you have anything you want to plug?

Yeah,

so apparently I have an incurable red meat allergy uh and i'm making a production uh a documentary of sorts about dealing with this forced veganism uh from unknown origins of a little insect assassin so wait is it unknown origins or is it known origins from a tick well the tick we don't know where the tick came from we don't know how it gained these powers to make you know grown men not be able to eat meat is the tick still alive No,

it's probably dead.

Okay.

I was going to say it's SEAL Team 6 on this tick.

We're going to be trying to figure out different ways to try to get rid of this red meat allergy, trying like witch doctor stuff, acupuncture.

Western medicine doesn't have a cure, but tune in soon, macrodosing YouTube, the search for the ability to eat red meat again.

Got it.

You can't just eat it.

You go to like a butcher shop.

No, I blow up.

My face blows up.

I think you have to eat ticks.

I think you have to find as many ticks as possible.

Tick man.

Yeah, you can only eat ticks from now on.

on.

Eat the bugs.

Good news is, Billy, there's a guy in New Jersey who's really good at weird medicine that has his schedules cleared up now.

Oh, yeah, true.

Yeah.

True.

Hit him up.

Crystals.

Yeah.

All right, Billy.

Thank you.

Thanks, guys.

Good luck the rest of the season.

Once again, that's Billy Football.

You can find him at BillyHotTakes on Twitter.

And I know you have a heart out, so we'll be respectful of your time, Billy.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Billy.

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All right.

Jim Bose presented by Spitz.

Jim Bose presented by Snickers.

You got it, Hank.

That was tough

boomerang.

Oh, you were good.

Oh, I think you and Max were great.

Some feedback.

People liked Max's more.

Well, Max killed it.

Max also had the energy because he won.

Yeah.

And also calling him Tampa Bay legend Tom Brady.

Yeah, we might have to mix up

a couple of boomers here and there with you and Max doing your games.

I enjoyed it.

I enjoyed listening to it.

I just got to get better at reading.

It's also nice because we can basically just, it's like a group project PFT and I are working on, and we're like, you handle this.

You handle the first two slides.

You should do a dress rehearsal of it, Hank.

Just practice.

Practice reading in the mirror.

Actually, on Sunday, we'll have you write one live during at the end of sunday's show we'll have you do the patriots dolphins oh exciting yeah

all right uh my fiancé asked me to go look at wedding venues last month she offered some dates and without thinking i told her this past sunday was fine oh so i missed the whole first week of the nfl season oh dude you gotta you gotta you gotta pretend that something came up i'm sure it was still fun going around i don't think you can fuck around with wedding stuff looking at different hauls and and and vfw holes.

That's their NFL Sunday.

Speaking of Jimbo's on this topic, did you see it went like mini-viral?

The guy who texted his hockey team, and it was like, hey,

sorry, guys, last minute, but feel really sick.

I'll let you know if anything changes, but I'm not going to make the game today.

And then on the group chat, he accidentally texted the next text that it was meant for his family being like, hey, everyone, feel free to bring whatever.

We'll have all the games on

like come on and bring the kids we're gonna we'll have the whole setup excited for football listen week week two maybe you could get away with you can't do that week one no you can't on Sunday do you really need to be do you really need a wedding no just go to a courthouse you just got to make sure you're not yeah I mean that's week one dude you can't you can't miss week one bridezillas though I feel like you can't fuck around

well here's the thing as a guy if you go along on that trip you're just gonna be nodding your head yes to whatever your wife wants to to do anyways.

Yeah.

It's her call.

You should have just had red zone.

Did you see the guy who also at Lake Cuomo with red zone?

What a boss.

Yeah.

During an online job interview for one of the questions, I accidentally submitted a video talking about why I'm not good for the job.

Oh, why would you even have a video?

Yeah.

That's a trick video.

Why would you say, like,

in the interview that you have, here are all the reasons why you shouldn't hire me?

The correct answer is, like, the old Michael Scott, like, I work too hard.

I'm too dedicated.

I've got too good of attention to detail.

Those are the reasons why you shouldn't hire me.

Yeah, maybe this one actually works, though, because it is like whenever you are in a job interview and they ask for your weakness, you're like, I care too much.

So this one, you had honesty.

That could work out.

Also, you set the bar very low.

If they hire you, you're like, hey, you guys saw the video.

I'm not good at this.

Like, you shouldn't have hired me.

It's kind of on them.

Yeah,

I just don't understand why you would possess a video like that in the first place.

Yeah, that's something that Mike Babcock would find quickly.

Why you stink at hockey?

Wait, what's this on your phone?

My work called me Saturday, asked me to come in early.

Instead of just saying no, I instead said I was sick and couldn't come in.

But I was, in fact, very clearly and obviously drunk at a college football game, and my boss definitely knows because I took the call on speakerphone as we got a third down stop.

That's sick.

You are sick, technically.

If you're drunk, you're unable to come into work for medical reasons.

Also, your body is undergoing a medical condition where there's alcohol in it and you're unfit to be at work.

You should be allowed to call in drunk.

This also goes back to football season.

You can't call in football season, like you can't call in on a Saturday.

It's Saturday.

Yeah, but if you want to, if you're asking for late help, it's got to be a Friday call.

It's just a Friday night, technically not the weekend, you have to show up, right?

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, that's a fact.

All right, last one.

My brother and I booked a frontier, all caps, flight from Philly to Charlotte the Sunday morning of a three-day bachelor party from 10 a.m.

Woke up at 6 to get from Ocean City, Maryland to Philly.

Oof.

Drop off the rental car.

Flight gets canceled on the shuttle to the terminal.

Had to rent another car and drive home.

14 hours of travel, not feeling great on the first Sunday of football.

Ooh, that's tough.

That's tough.

Although, Frontier, I would say Frontier is like the Cadillac of the low three, the spirit allegiant frontier.

Yeah, I think Frontier is the best out of those three, right?

Clearly not.

These jimbos, though, are just like, I feel like maybe next year we have to do a better job in August of reminding people when week one starts because it's just a lot of like week one errors.

You need to have your stuff set up to be like, hey, week one's coming.

Get like, that's a Saturday night fly out bachelor party situation.

You got to be able to wait.

You got to wake up in your own bed on week one and be like, I'm ready to go.

It's really a bachelor party situation where you want to stay all day on Sunday

and watch all the games.

Good point.

You could easily do that.

Yeah, you picked the worst option.

So that's, listen, this is why they, it's actually the NFL's fault now that I'm thinking about it.

NFL should change their preseason schedule to mimic the regular season where it's all the preseason games are on a Sunday so we can have a real like dry run of how live bullets, yeah.

Yeah.

Like, why wouldn't they, the third preseason game should be exactly set up like a Sunday in the NFL NFL and let everyone just run through the motions.

Or they should have a week zero in the NFL.

Yeah.

And you only have one game at 1 o'clock and then one game at 4 o'clock.

And then you have the Sunday night game.

Yeah.

So you don't miss the entire thing, but it's a week zero.

You go through the motions, but not every team's playing.

Yeah, the Bears get to play Miami of Ohio.

Yeah.

It's perfect.

Get a win.

Yeah.

Let everyone get a win.

Have a game in Hawaii.

Yeah.

Everyone starts playing.

With all the best players playing against each other.

That would be great if there was a week zero where everyone starts 1-0.

Yeah.

If everyone starts 1-0, it's no competitive advantage.

True, everyone feels good.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, good show, boys.

Good job.

Uh, Friday, we have a great interview in person with Joe Kim Noah and also possibly one of our favorite recurring guests back on the show.

So get excited.

And we're also, oh, do we know what the standings are?

Oh, we'll do it.

We'll do it Friday.

We'll talk about the punishment and the gambling.

Okay.

Numbers:

77.

Three.

18.

Whoa, what was that, Jake?

18.

One.

20.

Memes.

Have you ever gotten this?

Nope.

58.

We're just going to get it today.

30.

Nope.

Not even close.

See you everyone Friday.

Love you guys.

I'm coming to the land of day, shine.

I'm coming to be light of you, shine.

I'm coming for your love of day.

Take me out.

Don't bring away,

but I'm the one to say I'll take away.

The days are my days are finally shining.

But I've been coming for your love of dream, dream, grave, gay.

I've been coming for your love of dream.

Only I

know.

Me, let's just say,

I want to say

somewhere in a way.

Slowly learning life is okay.

Say after me.

I like to play it to be safe, starving, for starving, for starving, for starving.

I like the better to be saved for starving.

This is why I'm a real wave.

You are things I've got to remember.

Been shy and away.

You are becoming beautiful anyway.

when you shine away

Love it can be

only

You

only

know

me

me

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