CFB Preview With Tom Fornelli, Best Of Kentucky Sports Radio Callers, NFL Cut Day + Mt Rushmore Of Things We’ll Eventually Do

CFB Preview With Tom Fornelli, Best Of Kentucky Sports Radio Callers, NFL Cut Day + Mt Rushmore Of Things We’ll Eventually Do

August 30, 2023 2h 41m Explicit

NFL Cut Day is here and it looked like Jonathan Taylor was on the move until he wasn’t. Ryder Cup picks are in and Hank doesn’t understand that Justin Thomas is a killer(00:00:00-00:20:18). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including a belly fat gun and more(00:20:18-00:43:09). Tom Fornelli joins the show in studio to talk about the upcoming CFB season, who he likes out of each conference, Heisman dark horses and Week 1 locks(00:43:09-01:37:54). We guest hosted Kentucky Sports Radio Tuesday and we have the best callers on including a 10 minute conversation about cock fighting(01:37:54-02:05:25). Mt Rushmore of things we’ll eventually do and we finish with guys on chicks(02:05:25-02:39:36)


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On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good friend Tom Fernelli in studio talking college football, getting us ready for the college football season, getting us ready for week one. He releases a mega lock, almost a game of the year for week one on saturday uh we also hosted kentucky sports radio on tuesday one of our favorite days of the year we have the best of of that some great calls i never thought that we would be in a 10 minute conversation about cockfighting oh i did but we did yeah we were there so great calls great calls from the Kentucky Sports Radio listeners.
Shout out Matt Jones for having us guest host again. Mount Rushmore season.
Final two. Mount Rushmore is coming up.
Hank and Max need to make a move. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of things that we'll do eventually.
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We'll be right back. Now in the street there is violence, and then a lot of work to be done.

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Oh no, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue, and then we'll take it higher.

Oh, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue. Pardon My Take presented by Barstool Sports Welcome to Pardon My Take.
Today is Wednesday, August 30th, and unfortunately, guys, it's cut day. Yeah, it's a tough day.
NFL cut day. Tough day.
A lot of practice squad stashing out there. You can always convince yourself that a high, second, third round pick that gets cut, you want to pick that guy up, bring him in, see if you can reclaim him.
He flashed. A lot of reclamation projects going on out there.
Nathan Peterman got cut by the Bears. That's sad to see.
Very, very sad. He'll be fine, though, as soon as John Gruden gets another job.
Yeah, he put up one of the most legendary stat lines in NFL history.

We'll always have a soft spot for old NADP.

I hope he finds a place.

We also have the big news.

So we're taping this at 2.30 on Tuesday.

We're getting ourselves ready for NFL season.

We know the hours that come with it, the late hours. So we're taping it a little early in the afternoon.

Do we think by the end of this show, Jonathan Taylor will be a Miami Dolphin dolphin oh that's a good question so here's just to set the stage the colts have a 4 p.m deadline uh they have to decide at 4 p.m whether he's going to be on the pup list and miss the first four games or possibly trade him the dolphins have been making some funny little moves they traded a a offensive lineman to the Bears. They cut Miles Gaskin.
They freed up almost exactly the amount of cap space they need to sign Jonathan Taylor. Will Jonathan Taylor be a Dolphin? It'll be interesting.
If he becomes a Dolphin and then struggles with a Dolphin, will Jim Irsay then pay to fly him across the country? You can fly a Dolphin for sure. Easy's so easy no problem dolphin could sit coach yes dolphin could do southwest yeah and they could be in like the seas spirit airlines you see it's halfway filled with dolphins the entire time i hope i thought jonathan taylor goes to the dolphins and i will say this right now if jonathan taylor goes to the dolphins it will be very hard for me not to bet on the dolphins every week because in a dude off they would probably be leading the league so i'll say if he goes to the dolphins it is the afc beast yeah that is that is a gauntlet that's the group of death yeah it's i mean dude off miami dolphins okay you want to do a dude off to a jalen waddle tyree kill jonathan taylor bradley chubb alec ingold Jalen Ramsey when he comes back from injury.
Ah, that's a good one. That's pretty good.
A lot of dudes. That's a lot of dudes there.
A lot of dudes. I'm missing out on somebody.
Gusecki's no longer on the Dolphins, which we will do on Friday. We're going to do new.
Jake will have a PowerPoint to get everyone ready for the NFL season. Preparing it now.
A few rule changes. Yep.
A few rule changes. Football math with Hank.
And then same face with new places. Same face with new places.
It's going to be a great Friday show for that. You have to help me with that, Jake.
The football math? No, football math is just a quiz I'm going to give you. Oh, okay.
So you just got to bring your brain for the first time ever. You're a corporate guy now.
Have you learned how to put together a deck? Yeah. Oh, yeah? You're a PowerPoint guy? Hell, yeah.
Can we see one of your decks? Packaging. Let me see your deck.
Let's see it. Let's see the deck.
Whip out your deck. You want to do the Jersey Jerry one? You have a picture of Jersey Jerry in your deck? Yeah, let's see it.
Whip out the deck. Wow.
Our boy's all grown up. But yeah, cut day sucks.
My title page. That's your title page? That's a good title page.
2023, pardon my take, NFL preseason presentation. We got to figure out how to do it so that we can get it on the YouTube for the people at home.
Please subscribe to the YouTube. By the way, we need to get to half a milli by the end of football season.
We need to get there. Memes, I haven't even talked to memes about this, and I was just trying to conceptualize in my head.
Probably shouldn't be doing it live on the pod. No, let's conceptualize.
We're close to a million on Instagram and TikTok and kind of Twitter. What if there was a world where we could get them all at the same time? Oh, the crown.
Yeah. And like somehow, you know, set it up where if we can do it, then we'll give back.
The world explodes. Oh, we could give back.
We could give back. But only if we get, you know, if we can somehow cross, if we can get a million in the same day.
I would match if we gave back. If we got a million in the same day, Hank would you be willing to play golf with uh three awls yeah okay you just described hank's entire yeah so we got we got something yeah we'll do the same thing okay so you match matching i will not match i'll double i'll do it twice i will not match that i'll pay for a round of golf for four awls how about that they can pick the course most expensive course in the world i don't even know what it is pebble beach is up there pebble beach is probably up there masters i have to get a map i have to i have to join augusta uh yeah so let's get all those let's do it let's bump it i sent the deck you sent the deck this is the deck ghost hunting with big cat and jersey jerry there's only one page yeah it, it's a slot.
I mean, it's a- That's not a presentation. It's a one page.
I presented. This is really nice.
Thank you, Jake. Very cool.
Okay. When Jersey Jerry decided to move to Chicago, he didn't account for extra people that would be in his house, or should we say ghosts? After experiencing paranormal activity, Jersey Jerry had to make some moves.
Who's he going to call? Big Cat. I like the italics too.
Wait, but why am I italicized? Who's he going to call? Big Cat should be bolded is my only criticism. Did you write this yourself? I didn't ask for criticism.
You didn't write this. There should be a question mark after the word ghost.
You didn't ask for criticism. Did you proofread this?

Yeah.

Hank, did you write this yourself?

No.

Join Big Cat as he hires a ghost hunter to accompany him to Jersey Jerry's house and connect with the guests from the afterlife.

Over the course of two episodes, Big Cat and Jersey Jerry will bring their audience along

for the ride while they try to navigate a scary situation just in time for spooky season.

Ooh.

We should... Maybe we do like a series called Spooktober.
Well, I like that. We can do something Halloween for Sam Howell.
Yeah, I like that. That's good.
Do they play on Halloween? I have to put a bet in right now. Oh, Howelleen.
All right, so what else we got? We got Ronald Acuna almost getting accosted at the Rockies. Yeah, he kind of did get accosted a little bit a bad look for Colorado security yep it was tough they had they had two guys run out of the field one of the security guards went up tried to tackle the dude that was hugging Ronald Acuna fell on the ground then the second guy came up shoved Ronald Acuna who got tabletopped over the security guy when I first saw the picture I thought that these two these two guys went on the field just to do a tabletop, which plays on the elementary school playground, one of the all-time moves, tabletop and your buddy, to an all-star outfielder.
Ooh, rank the moves real quick. The flying burrito is pretty good.
Tabletop. Jump sideways into them.
I go number three, tabletop. Number two, pull out the chair.
Number oneing pantsing with balls flapping out yeah if you can get the full pants where the where the the the underwear goes to the hardest i'll ever laugh we didn't mention wedgie i feel like wedgie that was a big thing in the 80s yeah and it was a huge thing on sitcoms throughout the 90s yeah Yeah, Steve Urkel got wedgied. All the time.

Everybody got wedgied.

It was like, oh, we don't have a scene to write in this elementary school sitcom.

Wedgie.

Wedgie.

Stuff in a locker.

Or a swirly.

Swirly.

Yeah, but that doesn't really happen so much in my experience.

Like, where's the lovable loser?

And then he's hanging up.

Yeah, from a tree.

Thanks for getting me down, guys.

I got Foley pants in high school.

With boxers? Yeah, pick up basketball game with my friends. So there was a ton of my friends.
And your dick flopped out? Yeah. Oh, that's so funny.
Were you having a good day or a bad day? I don't remember how I was shooting that day, but it was in the middle. I was not talking about how you were shooting.
Who did it to you? My friend Jesse. Were you embarrassed? Still friends? Yeah, we're still friends.
Were you embarrassed at the time? I just, I've never reacted quicker. Yeah, my dream is to get pants when, for whatever reason, I'm just hanging nice and low.
Mm-hmm. Having a good dick day? A good visual.
Yeah. That's what I was referring to with Jake.
He took it as, how was his basketball performance? No. If I'm having a good dick moment and I get pants, I am going to be so happy.
Very hard to do, though, when you're playing sports. You get the sports dick where your dick ends up like a Tic Tac.
Your body needs the blood in other parts of your... My heart is like, hey, we need more blood.
Where can we get it from? Oh, your tiny little dick. It gets resorbed into your body.
Yeah. So I think I did that.
I think I might have pants Brandon Walker full dick out. It's a little bit less funny when it's an adult because then it's like oh workplace harassment i would say in terms of funny rankings it would go a kid pantsing an adult number one yeah very funny um a kid pantsing another kid also very funny adult pantsing an adult not funny an adult pantsing a kid very not funny yeah very very not funny and this all started because we're talking about hank's wonderful deck he's got a great deck yeah he's having a great deck day yeah um okay yeah so we had yeah kunya who was very chill about it afterwards shout out ronald acuna having an unbelievable year seems like the best guy ever he's like yeah they wanted a picture i didn't really know what to do yeah it's uh not the first time that two guys from the stands have just run down and accosted a braves outfielder the the famous hank aaron moment he's running around the bases after after uh breaking babe ruth's record stealing i found out today from big t that those guys almost got shot they almost got assassinated oh wow because there were snipers in the crowd hank aaron was getting all sorts of death threats so they thought those two guys were threats.
They didn't pull the trigger. They just wanted to pat him on the back.
That would have been... Number one sports highlight of all time.
Yeah, that would have... Darren Revelle would have been tweeting it every day.
Yeah. 4K.
Watch these guys' brains get blown out. We also had the Ryder Cup announced.
People are mad. Not me.
We have a South African on the team? Yeah, we have... So the Ryder Cup is Scotty scheffler wyndham clark xander shoffley max homo patrick cantley and brian harman are the uh top six which is very funny when i think the pga announced the captain's picks and everyone's like where's scotty yeah it's like well he made the team and then the captain's picks were brooks morikawa sam burns Burns, Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, and Ricky Fowler.
People are mad about JT. They're mad.
They're calling it a boys club. He's got the resume.
Here's the thing. JT's a killer in international play.
That's a fact, Hank. When he's good.
He has not been playing good. Career and national play records, Ryder Cup and President's Cup.

Cam Young, 1-2-1.

Keegan Bradley, 6-5-1.

Lucas Glover, 2-6-1.

Justin Thomas, 16-5.

Yeah, how do you say no to that, Hank? That's a resume pick.

Dude, when he was 16-5, he was a top 10, top 20 golfer in the world.

He gets up for the big moments.

He was already up.

What do you mean?

When he was playing in those matches, he deserved to be on the team because he was one of the best golfers in the world, and he played like one of the best golfers in the world. He's not playing good golf right now.
When was the last Ryder Cup? It was two years ago? Okay. Justin Thomas has won a major since then.
Yeah. I don't like it.
I'm standing with Justin Thomas. I like Justin Thomas.
We'll let him know. We'll let him know.
That's fine. I just feel bad for Keegan and the guys.
I like Keegan a lot, too. I like Keegan, too.
He's been playing better golf. Even Bryson.
Bryson's 58. Just because he doesn't live.
He's been on the Ryder Cups before. But it's a team sport.
Golf is an individual sport. Now you're in a team setting.
He's the ultimate team guy. He's friends with all these guys.
And he's a fucking killer when he plays an international play. a lot of pressure i guess what that's what he's 16 and 5 without the entire you know fan base and world being like you shouldn't be on this team you better perform i'm just worried it's a lot of pressure it's a lot of pressure because everyone's i hope he does on the team i hope he does i just wish pat would be a great story i love i love it when they have to pretend to be friends with patrick reed yeah you did patrick reed like Patrick Reed being not on the team, Justin Thomas was on the team.
I love it when they have to pretend to be friends with Patrick Reed. Patrick Reed being not on the team and Justin Thomas being on the team is the greatest vibes change of all time.
Everyone likes each other. That's what we need.
We need leaders. We need guys who've done it.
Come on, Hank. You want to win this thing or no? I do.
It's a risky pick, in my opinion. Okay.
Well, let's make a bet. Justin Thomas will win his matches.

How many solo matches does he get?

I don't know.

I don't know the format.

I do.

I do.

That's where I'm not as well-versed on the Ryder Cup or how significant.

You didn't know Justin Thomas was 16-5.

Obviously, him and Spieth are boys, and they never lose.

So, I guess if that makes sense.

So, you'd want to put it in a team that never loses? I get it. It's a risk.
He's a killer. He's a killer.
But imagine if he performs badly. The final day is 12 singles matches, so everyone plays.
Imagine if he performs badly. He won't.
Why would you pick a person who didn't even make the FedEx Cup playoffs? He's a killer. He's done it before, though.
Why didn't he kill this season? Because it wasn't international play. Because he's changed his game to more accommodate the international play style.
He's a killer. I think you're forgetting the part that he is a killer.
They have the bigger key. Yeah.
I hope they win. I hope Justin Thomas proves me wrong.
I actually hope they lose, and Justin Thomas is the only one that wins. And it's like we could have used 12 Justin Thomases.
It's so funny to imagine golfers getting up for international play. In other sports, if you're playing for your country, most sports are more conducive to being aggressive, showing a lot of emotion, running on adrenaline.
In golf, it's almost the exact opposite, where you want somebody that's more mellow, that doesn't even care that they're playing for your country. Yeah, but making a big putt, you can pot you can unleash you can't unleash yeah we've seen some guys unleash in the past yeah big time unleash uh i have a question about uh cut day last thing before we do hot seat cool throne when did it become a thing that people just tweet out like a star player gets cut have you guys seen this trend i mean i just fucking walked outside nicky smokes goes see the patriots uh cut matthew judon because of his comments but are on a ground i was like no yeah i don't i don't even have to look i know that didn't happen like they walked by he's like yeah that was i think i got i think i got got oh you got the prankster got pranked like that someone tweeted like uh the chiefs cut patrick mahomes why why oh doing a fake thing yeah but it's not even...
It might be for engagement. Elon sent out a warning.
If you manipulate the system, your account's going to be suspended. How does he manipulate? How would one manipulate the system? Doing a bunch of polls on who will win each conference in college football? Please note that any of the times to manipulate the creator compensation program on this platform will result in an account suspension.
Oh, like stealing tweets? I don't know what that means,

but it seems like if you're just blatantly

just tweeting just to get impressions,

he's watching you.

Yeah, what else are you tweeting for?

Love of the game.

I'm just, that's how I interpret it.

That's how I am.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, we want Elon to keep paying us.

So stop manipulating the system.

So stop tweeting Patrick Mahomes got cut.

Because even though you know it's fake, you still see it and you're like, wait, what? We should sign that guy. Bring him in.
Bring him in. Yeah.
Like when I see that, my first instinct is like, well, if he did get cut, let's bring him in for a workout. Yeah.
Let's at least see what he's got. Let's see if he's got anything left in the tank.
Yeah. All right.
There's also Damar Hamlin made the team. Oh, good for him.
So, yeah, good for him. I think his comeback player of the year odds are at like minus 280 right now.
Yeah. All right.
There's also Damar Hamlin made the team. Oh, good for him.
So, yeah, good for him.

I think his comeback player of the year odds are at like minus 280 right now.

Wow.

Odds on favorite to win.

Do you think that they sat in a meeting? Yeah.

Yeah.

And they're like, we can't.

I think they had a conversation that was like, here are two options.

One, we cut Damar Hamlin.

Two, we cut him, but we give him a job as like supervisor of morale supervisor of of not dying yeah for the buffalo bills and just keep him around supervisor of alive yeah you always need one of the senior vice president of refibrillation being alive uh yeah that i mean he probably made the team because he was he is a good depth guy for them well maybe his clone's better than he was. Yeah, that's true.
That would be a big upgrade. What if he picked up a couple tricks when he was in the lab? That would be interesting.
Some people have a stroke, and then they come back, and they can play the piano out of nowhere. What if DeMar comes back, and now he can read an offense and know exactly when to time a blitz? He's like Mel Gibson and what women want mel gibson and what women want yeah what quarterbacks want uh-huh we should we should write that movie that's pretty good holy fuck we should actually write because like the damar hamlin movie i don't really know if there's enough to write it now but if we got our hands on the script and we change the ending to it where he got a supernatural power he can hear everything that the quarterbacks are thinking yeah abilities I mean, imagine him going up against Deshaun Watson.
That'd be pretty gross. Yeah, or going up against Kirk Cousins.
He's like, fuck, why is he talking about Kohl's? Why is he talking about a sweater at Target? We're in the fourth quarter. Yeah.
Phillip Rivers, I'd love to hear his thoughts. Dagnabbit.
I should be impregnating my wife again. Yeah.
Later tonight, I'm going to put another seed in her. She's ovulating right now.
You're going to play better. All right.
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Okay, hot seat, cool throne. Hank.
My hot seat is the NBA. Uh-oh.
China? China. No, track and field star, Noah Lyles.
Yeah, you know about Noah. Yeah, everyone knows Noah.
He was doing an interview where he basically asked, you know, why do they call the NBA

the world champion, world champion of what?

They only play in America.

And there was a, you know, it was kind of an embrace debate, I guess.

Huh?

Is, you know, is NBA the world champion or are they just the U.S. champion?

Have the Nuggets beaten like the Series A team from Slovenia?

No, you have the Raptors. So it's international.
That's true. That's international that's true did the nuggets beat victor women yama's team in france no the mets they did not they've they're they have not beaten the mets yet did the nuggets beat yukon they did not right so good point yeah this is the dumbest debate ever especially when you consider all the best players in the world playing the nba this is track and field being like please like my sport yeah and then you think like think about some of those spurs teams remember the spurs when they won maybe their last title and all the dudes had their uh home country's flags there was like 15 different flags yeah the nuggets famously only represent the united states yeah all their good players come from the usa this is one of those cases where a guy's trying to say something deep and then he he says it.
We call it an ocho, and he says it, and then when it comes out of his mouth, he's like, yeah, take that, guys. Here's a quote, though.
This is from someone in 2010. It doesn't make any sense for an NBA team to call themselves world champions.
I don't remember anybody playing anybody outside of our borders to get that tag. Greg Popovich.
But he did the borders he played the raptors yeah but you know everyone was kind of roasting them and i agree but then you see the quotes from greg popovich saying the same thing yeah he probably was on the vino you should be allowed to challenge a team though there should be if you're like an italian basketball team you should be allowed to challenge the nuggets if you beat them champions. If you lose, your team is folded.
That should be the plan, but like a relegation plan. You're talking about a Super League.
Or the midseason tournament. Yeah.
Bringing all the champs. NBA Cup.
My other question from this, not a soccer guy, you guys are, thankfully. What is the best soccer league? Like if there was in this.
The Champions League. Saudi Arabia.
The Champions League is the best teams from each league playing each other. So they can call themselves world champs.
So if there was a comparable league. So say if the NFL, if there was a comparable league in like England, American football, and they were really, really good, they would have basically how the Champions League works is every single league, like your E the league in France the Bundesliga from Germany the Spanish league all the leagues in Europe their best four teams play in a tournament during the season concurrently that's when you see like Tuesday and Wednesday games that's champions league so Hank in in a relation to United States sports it's kind of like college football.
A little bit, yeah. They've all got their own, like the different divisions spread across our country.
There's a spread across Europe. And so the best teams from each conference then go into a Final Four, and then the winner of that is the national champion here.
The winner of that is the UEFA Champions League champion over in Europe. But it's hard to say which league is the best

because the EPL is probably the deepest,

but then Bayern Munich or PSG or Real Madrid or Barcelona

when they had Messi, they would win the Champions League.

So maybe the best teams in a different league,

but the best league overall, I think it's the EPL.

Probably the EPL.

Definitely not MLS.

Yeah, MLS should get in the Champions League. That would be awesome.
I would love to see that. You'd get fucking smoked.
Okay. Good question, Hank.
Talking soccer. Yeah.
And then what was your cool throne? Oh, my cool throne is Tiffany Gomez. Yeah.
Yeah. She's back.
She's flying. She's back.
She's back on the planes. She's so fucking hot.
She's back in the air.

Well, she did an interview.

She was playing Corey.

It was like a little TMZ interview.

That's what she does, though. Ran up on her at the airport, and she said she didn't know what she saw.

She was kind of not giving answers on what she saw on the back of that plane,

but she did say that an in-depth interview is going to have to happen.

Come on the show, Tiffany, please.

Let's go, Tiffany, in person only. I invited her on the show.
I have not heard back from her. We would love to talk to you about anything, really.
Just be in the same room as you. I also like that Tiffany Gomez is definitely not an industry plant.
Like, this isn't a setup to make someone famous because when she did her initial video, then she did a post. And she didn't have shoes or socks on she was giving away her feet for feet feet for free online it's day one that is a rookie mistake tiffany you got to make the boys pay for those anyone with management that's that's you gotta you you gotta cover those feet up and be like listen tiffany those puppies we get 50k a pop on each one she should become an air marshal we should

just put her on one plane a day if she was TSA yeah so many drugs and guns in my pocket we should

put her on one plane a day and she gets to kick off one person from each flight who's not real

I like that yeah real or not real what a game show yeah Tiffany come play real or not real with us

it's like we'll also judge it's like cake or not you know how everything's cake people just go you

know you cut through stuff I think they're real we just cut through people oh shit whoops

Thank you. Yes.
We'll also judge. It's like cake or not.
You know how everything's cake? People just go, you know, you cut through stuff. I think they're real.
We just cut through people. Oh, shit.
Whoops. That guy was real.
He's bleeding out. I've seen the videos.
They're definitely real. Yeah.
And they're spectacular. Then my other cool throne is Bolero.
Our friends over at Bolero, they are now carrying part of my cheesesteaks. Plug God.
140 locations. Plug God.
Love it. Yeah, absolutely.
Got you, Jake.

What did I say yesterday when they asked me for a comment?

It was a great, great comment.

I said it was a perfect strike.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Who are you going to call?

Big Cat.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Bolero.

Part of my cheesesteak, Bolero.

Great friendship.

So fun fact about Bolero, their director of food and beverage was my freshman year roommate

at JMU.

Wow.

Didn't realize that.

Oh, so this is a little nepotism.

Didn't realize that until we did the first Bolero thing.

And I was like,

Thank you. Bolero, their director of food and beverage, was my freshman year roommate at JMU.
Wow. Didn't realize that.
Oh, so this is a little nepotism. Didn't realize that until we did the first Bolero thing.
And I was like, Jeff, you can't tell anybody anything that I ever did. Yeah.
But please put our cheesesteaks in your bowling alleys. No, Bolero is awesome.
Bowling is awesome. Bowling is one of those things that every time we do it, we're like, why don't we do this more? Why don't we bowl more? Bowling is so much fun.

We should start a league in the winter. They're a total strike, and there won't be any left to spare.
Yes. Like it.
Like it. Okay.
Good job. Cool Thrones, hot seats, did everything.
Nice job, Hank. Thanks.
And you got a great deck. My hot seat is Spanish soccer.
More soccer talk today. So the president of the Spanish Soccer Federation got a little hot water after the Women's World Cup.
He kissed one of his players on the lips as she walked across the stage. He claimed it was consensual.
She has since come out and said there was nothing about that that was consensual. FIFA has suspended him.
And now he's is uh he's denying all the accusations he's got a sexual harassment it was on video thing yeah so but he's still saying that that was that was consensual got it um now where it gets interesting is that guy's mom has now entered the fray she's engaging in a hunger strike inside of a church to protest all the bad stuff that they claim that she claims they're doing to her son so she's saying that uh she's describing the media scrutiny as inhumane hounding of her son and uh she's calling on vanessa ruiz and her mozo who was kissed to tell the truth about the kiss so this guy's mom believes him um that's a news flash like of Of course mom's going to try to support you but the hunger strike is ongoing right now inside of the spanish church trying to take the heat off of the president of the spanish soccer federation okay let's see let's watch this hunger strike she just needs to come out and say that we always kiss on the lips like if she has video of adult mom with adult son kissing on the lips all the time, you might have a little wiggle room. Well, after every good show that we do on part of my take, Dave kisses us on the lips one by one as we walk out.
That's just a reward for a job well done. Our birthdays.
12-1. Our birthdays.
We kiss. We kiss at midnight.
So yeah, we'll see what happens with this guy. But then also their coach was in trouble during the World Cup because celebrating a goal, he reached out and he grabbed one of his assistant coach's boobs.
Same coach? No, different. This is a coach and the president of the Spanish Sider Federation.
These guys are touchy-feely. Spain is giving Italy a real run for their money in terms of pervert or Spanish.
Yeah. That might be the new segment.
Barolomew. Perverto.
Her breath with a thuffle.

So that's my hot seat.

My cool throne is Blake Bortles.

Blake Bortles on the cool throne.

He is living his lifelong dream of working construction.

So he's getting a house built for himself.

And he asked if he could join the crew that's building his house and work construction. Why are you giving me this look? Where'd you hear this? Billy Football wrote a blog about it.
Right. So Gaz tweeted a text that he got saying this.
Blake Bortles told us this on part of my take a year ago. In October.
Oh, that he was still working construction? That he was doing exactly this. Oh, I forgot.
Yeah. So it was Gaz.
Basically, someone listened to part of my take, texted Gaz the exact story Bortles told us, and then Billy blogged it, which, again, Billy was in the room for when Blake Bortles told us this. I got billied.
He said, we're like, what are you doing these days? He's like, well, we're building a new house, and I get bored sometimes, and I go see if I can help the guys out. Okay, Billy Buck cracked me.
What can I say? Well, when Gaz tweeted, I was like, wait, what? Bortles told us this. What's breaking again? It broke to me twice.
That's why we were giving you that face. I thought maybe you were doing it being like.
No, I got rebroke. I got rebroke on this news.
Yeah. No, he told us this.

Also, Blake Bortles is retiring from football.

Yeah.

That's kind of crazy.

I thought he was going to be in camp this year.

My other cool throne is Boltman.

Yes.

Chargers' unofficial superfan.

Well, he's an official superfan.

But he stopped by the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Sunday night, and he paid respects to Junior Seau's bust in the Hall of Fame.

It was a very funny picture of Boltman looking solemnly at Junior Seau's face. And Bolt Mann is nothing if not civically engaged.
We've seen him at town council meetings. We've seen him addressing the owners of the team from the podium.
Bolt Mann is a legend in the super fan game, and it's very funny to imagine Bolt Mann staring solemnly at Junior Seau when you know that Junior Seau's face is staring back at the sunglasses face with a menacing grin that Boltman always has. It was incredible.
Just a beautiful picture. Our boy Clue Haywood replied with a Photoshop that he made of Boltman observing the Vietnam Wall in D.C.
I'm sure that we're going to get... Boltman Photoshops are going to be hot in the streets.
They are. Big time.
Keep that in the back of your head. Boltman photoshops.
I'm buying stock on those right now. Oh, breaking moves.
Blake Bortles working construction? Pop. For Jonathan Taylor.
Oh. Per Shafty.
Okay. This is a game of who's going to blink first.
Damn. So he's not going to get traded.
He's going to be out for four weeks. Here's a dumb question.
Why don't the Colts just put him on the active roster? They'd get to pay him. Yeah, but not that much, right? Why wouldn't they? Just hope that he shows up for day one.
But they'd have to pay him. Yeah, but that's what I would do.
I would put him on the active roster and be like, maybe he'll change his mind before week one. No, well, he can't.
If he's on the pup, he can't play. Yeah.
Yeah, for the first four weeks. But that's not what I was saying.
Oh, I was saying. I was correcting Billy.
I was quoting Billy saying, please credit the part of my take episode that you were on in October. Okay.
Billy, I fucked up too. All right.
Okay. But yeah, I don't know what to do with Jonathan Taylor if you're the Colts.
I think you just got to hope that he shows up. I think you got to say you're going to be a running back.
He's going to show up. He'll show up.
Yeah. All right.
Pop for Jonathan Taylor. All right.
My hot seat, cool thrown. My hot seat is the Mets for doing a highlight video of Max Scherzer when he was back in New York last night.
It's classy. Very classy.
Tough, tough look. Mets fans did boo in person, but I did have some Mets fans being like, they do these tribute videos for everyone.
That's ridiculous. I know that they won a bunch of games last year.
It didn't amount to anything. You can't do, especially a guy who left under what didn't feel like great terms you can't do a video for him that's insane yeah did the celtics ever give isaiah thomas his video i think so right that was it i actually don't that was like a month-long storyline we were all paying attention that was depressing i don't think it ever happened because he got cut.
Damn. So either way, Max Scherzer got a tribute video, which was very awkward.

My cool throne, I have two.

The first is this guy who does a Notre Dame podcast, Vince Daddario, who seemingly shit

his pants live recording.

He said afterwards he got two cramps.

That's why he ran out. Just kidding.
Yes, I did. Yeah, cramp.
They did give it to him. Yeah, listen, we stand with anyone who shits their pants.
It happens. What are you going to do? Yeah, just a cramp, man.
Yeah, he probably was drinking a bunch of Guinness on Saturday. It's an internal cramp.
Everybody deals with him. Yeah.
I shit my pants after drinking a lot of Guinness ones. What do you want the guy to do? You want him to in the room no you can't you can't and then my other cool throne is uh the white socks it's been a very bad year for the white socks the team was supposed to be good they were very they have been very bad jerry reinsdorf's been teasing selling the team possibly moving to uh nashville possibly arlington heights uh and then a gun went off the other day in the outfield in the bleachers during a game now the reason why I have him on the cool throne is we got some more details of it and I'm a firm believer that if your team is going to have a bad season make it so bad it's a circus and you can just laugh at it and that's where the White Sox have gotten to because per Peggy Kaczynski who's a great great reporter for ESPN 1000, said the shooting at guaranteed rate field during a White Sox game was indeed an accidental discharge by one of the women grazed by the bullet.

She reportedly snuck the gun in past metal detectors, hiding it in the folds of her belly fat.

I don't know how that works anatomically, to be able to support an entire gun in the folds of your belly fat it's got to be a small gun i mean it has to be a small gun but that is that fat the very fat the the white socks have officially reached the level of that's funny like they're doing funny shit that's it's such a train wreck of a season a belly fat gun Like you'll just know that like Oh yeah remember that season The belly fat gun You think she intentionally brought the gun Or you think like she was walking in And she was like Fuck I have this gun in my purse And I don't want to like get rid of it Oh I thought you were saying like She forgot that she had the gun In her belly fat already No like You know you walk in You're like oh fuck I have to go through security Oh fuck I brought a giant tool set to the airport for the first time flying first class. Exactly.
She's just finding quarters and hot dogs. I think it's not beyond the Roman possibility that she had the gun on her bed for protection, and she rolled over in the middle of the night.
It got stuck in her belly fat, and then she didn't realize that the gun was still in her belly fat when she walked into the game. She woke up, went to the game.
It was like, fuck, my belly fat gun's here. You know what's almost more embarrassing is that the gun that was jammed into her belly fat went off and she didn't really hit herself.
Yes. She just got grazed.
Yes. If your gun actually, it's like a Plaxico Burris situation.
It's funny that the gun went off in his sweatpants and he shot himself. Right.
This woman didn really shoot herself it just grazed her yeah and it's also if you have a belly fat gun that means you definitely have a gun that doesn't fit in your belly fat that you would never bring to a game what's the charge on that yeah yeah you're you know what I mean real gun yeah you're real gun you're like oh this is not I can't I can't conceal this one in my belly fat I'll have to keep this in the in properlyowed away in the gun box. I can see John Moran accidentally shooting himself during a game.
Yeah, he needs to get fatter. He needs to get James Harden.
James Harden. James Harden, definitely.
But yeah, it's an embarrassing situation. Probably why we didn't learn the full story until just now.
Yeah. I would love to see the police interrogation tapes where they sit her down or wheel her in or whatever it is and ask her, okay, we think we know what happened here.
It was in your belly fat, wasn't it? So how did you get this in? It's the perfect crime. It really is.
It's the belly fat. The belly fat probably, yeah, it's like a Kev.
The belly fat stopped the metal detector. Yeah.
That's crazy. Yeah, so when she walked through, did they have to wander down? And she was like might be my that's my iud yeah that's my belly fat what yeah my belly fat sometimes goes off yeah um okay uh jake your hot seat cool throne uh my hot seat's ai ai is trying to squeeze out journalism i don't know if you guys saw this story but uh alan iverson no oh andre aguardala yeah so they're Aguadala.
Yeah. So they're having the Columbus Dispatch.
What's AI? Artificial intelligence. Oh.
They're having the Columbus Dispatch write AI sports stories. And one of them was so robotic that they reversed it.
So that sounds like AI just killed itself. Well, my hot seat.
Yeah. AI is on the hot seat.
Yeah. the job not a big J correct got it this is a hard industry and they're just trying to squeeze out more of us yeah it's been it's been going on for a while where a lot of newspapers have been using AI to write high school like high school football updates have been done by AI that's what this was yeah so they're pausing it this was just a really shitty AI program yeah that they hired to do it if you want a job done do it right pay for the premium ai service so nobody will know that's a robot that does it or just let journalists do it or just let a human being do it exactly you need that human touch yeah so i'm actually standing up for journalism i'm okay with ai i don't know if we all just don't have to work well i'm i'm okay i'm okay with ai in so far as that i want ai to know that I'm on its side for when it does take over.
Right. And it'll like me.
And if AI can be like, hey, you do my job. I'll just chill.
I'm okay with that. I think.
It's probably a big mistake. We should smash all the computers.
That's what I think. That works.
There should be a day in the United States where nobody uses computers. They turn off the internet.
That would would be awesome. Yeah.
Go dry. Damn.
We'd all do like divorces. Everything would just be.
Or we're just really great for one day. Yeah, that's true.
Just be optimistic. My cool thrown sister, Jean.
She threw out the first pitch at the Cubs game, which. Terrible.
Terrible pitch. I'm a slop.
I take that to no. No.
Was it no disrespect? I would knock that out of the park. Knock that out of the park.
I actually had aop. I would take that.
Was it no disrespect?

I would knock that out of the park.

Knock that out of the park.

I actually had a difference.

I've been a Sister Jean hater for a few years.

When she wound up and then she threw it underhand, I was completely fooled.

She was out there throwing junk.

Yeah.

No, slop.

It's gross.

Yeah. Well, I don't think I could hit it.

I think.

Celebrating her 104th birthday.

I would back her down in the low post. I would dunk on her, but I think she might be able to strike me out.
Dude, Sixter Jean is so old. I was scrolling Twitter, saw it, and I read it as 140, and I didn't even flinch.
Yeah. She will live to be 140.
She's a witch. If you get past 100, it's like, what's stopping you? She is an absolute witch.
My grandmother used to tell me, nuns are witches. I believed that for several years.
I also got a theory for you that you might want to work on PFT. I don't think I've ever seen Virginia McCaskey, Bears owner, and Sister Jean in the same room.
That is interesting. Huh.
Just two women just living over 100. Girl bosses? Girl bosses.
Just girl bossing their way around town. Sister Jean, badass.
Badass woman.

Yeah.

She is the original girl boss.

Because I don't know if history goes back far enough to find another one.

It doesn't.

Yeah.

She's the first woman.

She's the first woman.

She's Eve.

Okay.

Let's get to our interview.

We have Tom Frinelli.

Then we're doing Kentucky Sports Radio Best of Callers, which were awesome.

And then we'll do our Mount Rushmore and guys on checks.

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Whoa. Tom, great to see you.
Thank you for – I would say you were at least 5% of the move to Chicago. It was like, oh, well, like three times a year we can have Tom on in person.
I think that's pretty much the only reason you need to be back in Chicago. And honestly, since I've moved to the suburbs, this show is the only reason I've been back to Chicago in a couple months.
Yes. Oh, that's nice.
You turned your back on the city? Yeah, I'm done. I'm a suburbanite now.
We're over it. I'm going to say something, and don't take it the wrong way.
I'm not coming on to you. But you look good.
You do look good. Thank you.
You lost weight. I have not.
But what I have been doing is golfing a lot. I've been, you know, Hank stole my identity stole my identity so i'm trying to steal his i've been out golfing a lot this summer took my first lesson in april so i just have a tan that is really the only difference for somebody who works from home i haven't had a tan like this in three or four years if you can't tone it tan it yeah exactly they say uh all right so we are on the precipice of the 2023 college football season.
No better time. So let's start big picture.
Realignment happened. All this bullshit happened.
I'm personally more excited for this season than I've been in a long time just because I think there's going to be weird blood feuds and teams about to leave and just kind of enjoy it before everyone breaks up. How are you feeling going into this season? I'm kind of with you in that I'm looking forward to it because I do feel like this is the last season of college football resembling kind of what we've all grown up watching and rooting for and it is going to change.
But I'm also somewhat nonplussed simply because like Georgia has obviously won the last two national titles they're probably going to win a third like when I look at things going into the season and I look at Georgia's schedule there is absolutely no way in hell they are not making the playoff okay but here's the one fun part because you said it with Georgia's schedule we get to do an entire season of Georgia hasn't been tested yet no that's a fun thing but that's's the thing. Georgia gets to the playoff and it doesn't really get tested.
Like the Ohio State game was great. And then you get to the title game against TCU, which is, you know, there's the Cinderella story that everybody says can't happen in the college football playoff.
And then they get, what, 65 to 7? You bet on TCU, right? You told America, take the points. No, I did not.
This isn't all to Georgia. This will be really? I don't know.
I can't remember. It's a smart bet, you could say.
Everyone's going to be betting on Georgia, but Georgia's so good that it doesn't matter what they set to spread. They're just going to dominate.
It's going to be an all-time. Georgia's going to dominate everyone.
I don't think they have a game on their schedule. Tennessee at Tennessee is kind of their toughest game.
But look what they did to Tennessee last year. I know.
So we will spend the entirety of this season debating, well, Georgia hasn't played anyone. And that's going to be – and you're basically hoping that Georgia has just – I mean, you could make the argument because this is now nitpicking because they are a phenomenal team.
Is the disease of more going to take over for Georgiaorgia where they've been there they've done it twice they're scheduled they don't have those big games that will get like everyone ramped up for can they trip up somewhere so what you're saying is like georgia's biggest opponent is complacency yes themselves yes georgia versus themselves it's true media we might have to put it on our shoulders we do because we have been doubting georgia kirby's got he's that's the one thing i think kirby took from saban more important than recruiting or anything is convincing your players nobody believes in you because i have seen it from the georgia fan base already because like two people in the sec media poll picked alabama to win the league it's like see they don't believe in us no one believes in your kids yeah it's's going to be funny because Georgia is – if Georgia was a little bit worse, if they were, like, barely favored to win the national championship, then I don't think we could say, like, they haven't played anybody. But there's just nobody that Georgia possibly could play for us to be like, wow, yeah, Georgia's battle test.
Well, that's part of it too because you look at Georgia's schedule and you say, oh, my God, they're going to win all of these games by two or three scores. It's so easy.
But then if you put like Auburn with the same Georgia schedule, they're probably going eight and four. So it's not like it's a cakewalk.
It's just in comparison to Georgia, there really is nobody else in the country that you could put in front of them. That's not within their own league or Ohio state or Michigan, or maybe USC this year.
Although after what I saw from that defense last weekend, I'm not that high on the Trojans anymore, but it's just,

it's one of those things.

They are so fucking good that there really isn't anybody else that you have

any kind of faith in beating them,

even with a new quarterback.

Right.

So one more question about realignment.

Is there a winner?

Who's the winner and who's the loser from realignment?

The sec and the big 10 are winners and television executives are winners and conference commissioners are winners i mean yeah it's that's why i watch the sport i love it when the commissioner does his advertisement during the bowl game i mean i will say i'm a winner in the sense that since i work for cbs growing up as a big ten fan watching big ten football going to a big ten school the fact that that the Big Ten is now on CBS is actually something that is very exciting for me. That's a big winner for you.
Exactly. So I'm a winner in that sense.
I am a loser in that to get what I wanted, I had to add USC, UCLA, Washington, and Oregon. You had to destroy college football.
We didn't have to add Washington, Oregon. We did them a favor.
No, they were on sale. Yeah.
The Rutgers is a winner too. Rutgers and Maryland.
Rutgers and Maryland are big time winners. I mean, they've got a ton of money from just being.
Right place, right time. Yeah, like, oh, they got a lot of cable boxes.
Oh, James Gandolfini was on the, like, Rutgers. Ray Rice.
I know Rutgers always gets shit on, but they really did. To say something nice about Rutgers,

they used the minimal amount of success for the maximum amount of security.

They played it perfectly.

Jim Delaney back in the day looked at Rutgers and said,

hey, that's close to New York.

You know what New York has a lot of?

Yeah.

People.

Yeah.

We can do the map.

We can do the Game of Thrones map where it goes all the way to the coast.

They love college football in New York.

Oh, it's probably, I mean, you guys would know better than me,

but it's got to be the biggest sport in New York. It's bourbon and college football.
Barbecue bourbon and college football in New York City. That's what we do up there, man.
Yes. All right, so let's go big conference by big conference.
So SEC, Georgia. If not Georgia, then who? LSU.
Okay. I really, I'm not going to say that the Alabama dynasty is dead, but I feel like it's dying, and it's not going well.
I mean, there's Saban this week is standing in front of the media saying he's not going to release a depth chart for their game against, I think, Middle Tennessee. Competitive advantage.
Because it's a competitive advantage and it could cause like it could distract players in the locker room to know what their job is. That's a fact.
Yeah. So that's me.
It's an amoeba depth chart. We don't tell Hank what day he's working until the day of.
No, no. Hank doesn't know when a weekend is.
So they bring in, you know, it's like, we don't know who Alabama's quarterback is yet. We mostly think it's going to be Jalen Milrow.
But you look at that team, like they had Bryce Young the last few years. The guy who was the number one pick in the draft was one of the best players in the country.
And they couldn't get past Georgia with him. And the roster talent-wise, the one thing that Alabama was able to do during this dynastic run recruiting was they killed everybody on the lines of scrimmage, offensive line, defensive line.
And they still have good players in those spots, but Kirby Smart and Georgia have better players. They have gotten more of those guys.
And it's been kind of under-talked about in recent years that Alabama's offensive line the last few years,

for Alabama standards, has sucked.

They have not been able to run the ball,

even with Bryce Young and defenses having to trust that.

And I look at LSU.

They did a lot better than I anticipated in Brian Kelly's first year.

He's a really good coach.

Terrible person.

Turns out he's a really good coach.

Yeah.

And Jaden Daniels was fantastic.

Behind Jaden Daniels, they have Garrett Nussmeyer,

who some people believe is going to be very good himself if he ever has to go in and start. He's got a huge arm.
They've got a bunch of talented receivers. They're very talented at running back.
They've got good players on both the offensive and defensive line. The secondary, there's some question marks there that haven't been proven, but I give LSU the benefit of the doubt when it comes to producing defensive backs.
So I just look at that division, and I think LSU is better than Alabama this year, and they're more likely to win the West. And I think if you get them to the SEC title game against Georgia, they've got a shot.
They've probably got a better shot than anybody else in that conference of beating Georgia. Who's that offensive lineman that they just said was going to get to number seven on LSU? Left tackle, I think.
What the hell? I don't know his name. I'm on the spot.
Yeah, you're putting me on the spot here.

I do not know his name.

But no, it's...

You don't know the left tackle for LSU?

What the fuck?

He's getting number seven.

Best player in Louisiana gets to rock number seven.

But he's not allowed to wear number seven on the field.

No, but Teddy Bridgewater can wear number 50, which, by the way, tangent, that just looked

fucked up.

Will Campbell.

Will Campbell, yeah.

I think he should be allowed to actually wear the number seven.

I don't.

An offensive lineman wearing seven, just one. I don't.
No, I think he should be allowed to actually wear the number seven. I don't offensive lineman where I don't just one.
I don't know. I think offensive line is the one traditional position where God damn it.
We need to have a standard. All right.
You're a fat guy who moves pretty well. You need to be in a 60 or a 70.
I don't want to see single digits on the offensive line. We're too classy.
We're too smart. I speak as a former high school offensive lineman.
So I know what I'm talking about. Leave that for the defensive lineman.
They're the show showboats they're the guys who are trying to show off just one one big dude wearing number seven would be cool it would be cool have to wear in the 60s preferably 69 should be the left tackle i think that should be like in soccer where the uh the the striker gets number 10 nine yeah number number nine nine is that what it is 10 no 10 is the attacking midfielder kind of guy oh we do yeah that was don't try to us. Who's number seven? That's a defensive midfielder.
No, that's like a winger. That's Ronaldo.
Oh, I was thinking Jürgen Klinsmann. What does Messi wear? Messi wears 10.
Oh, interesting. The GOAT? Yeah.
So we're right. Yeah.
But he's not a striker. Well, he strikes.
What does Pucicic wear? You don't know when he's going to strike. Pulisic.
I don't know. What's he wearing with AC now? What did David Beckham wear? Seven.
Winger. Oh, fuck.
Shit. That's stupid.
Who cares about soccer anyways? Okay. By the way, when you said competitive advantage, do you see the Arizona Cardinals? They're declining to name a starter for a competitive advantage against the Washington Commanders.
So we're either going to get Josh Dobbs or Clayton Toon. You don't know which one to prepare for i think clayton toon's a good player yeah um i just i don't know it's it's it's gonna be tough to game plan for the cardinals yeah not knowing who their quarterback yeah that's that's one of those where you see it from an nfl coach like every year there's a new coach and you're like that guy's not ready for the nfl no no that team is clearly trying to get the first pick they want caleb william than anything.
Yeah, didn't they, the way that they handled the Hopkins contract, I think they could have just waited a couple days and cut him. And instead they just said, no, we'll cut him down and we'll just eat $11 million.
Yeah, we got to use our cap space somehow. That's really what they're doing.
There's a cap floor. You have to spend a certain amount of money.
That team is in tank mode. I just watched the Bears do it last year.
So I i know the move um all right so let's talk big 10 i have a take uh top to bottom big 10 strongest conference no but just yes just say yes yeah for sure but no all right so maybe not top to bottom but i do think penn state ohio state michigan all could be conceivably be in the college football playoff. And then you have, you know, Iowa's always going to be good.
Wisconsin could have a very good year with Luke Fickle changing everything. There's some salty teams in the Big Ten that will keep it, you know, the floor isn't just like falling out after like the top three teams.
I do think you're right at the top. I mean, Ohio State and Michigan, they're going to be Michigan's won the last couple years Ohio State is still Ohio State reached the playoff last year in a down season and then Penn State I do think this is their best chance to win the Big Ten in a long time now the problem is I still don't think they're as good as Michigan or Ohio State but they do have a quarterback Drew Alar is I mean Sean Clifford didn't get a ton of respect he was drafted by the Packers so it's not like he sucked but he's you look at the quarterbacks and he was always the kind of guy you look at like you know Ohio State's with Justin Fields and CJ Strouds and all these NFL first round picks Michigan didn't really have the five star but they've had good players Penn State I felt like was the one team that was trying to convince itself that it was a national title contender while playing with a jagged quarterback, you know, just a guy.
But I think Alar is the first guy really – I mean, McSorley was not ultra talented, but he had the moxie. I think Alar is the kind of guy who has that kind of attitude, but he's also really fucking good.
So I think that could give them a step up because you look at the rest of that roster, their offensive line is fantastic. They have great running backs.
They've got talented receiver. The defense is phenomenal.
So if Alar clicks, that is a team that could win the East. It could win the Big Ten.
And they have the benefit of playing Michigan at home. And Ohio State, they have to play in Columbus, but they always play Ohio State tough.
Yeah, they give Ohio State, I mean, until State I mean until the last couple years obviously but even then it's like Penn State even when they're bad they step up and they gave Ohio State more problems in like the last decade than Michigan was for most of the part so now obviously Michigan's taking over that role but Penn State can't beat Michigan though that's the problem it's like when they play they usually get the shit kicked out of them up on Michigan But no, I think my prediction was those three teams are all going 11-1. They're going to split the series with each other.
The home team is going to win every single one of those games, and it's going to come down to some weird draconian tiebreaker in the Big Ten bylaws to decide who wins the division. But I do think because of that, there's a very good shot that, once again, the Big Ten will get two teams into the playoff.
It'll be whoever wins the East and whoever finishes whoever finishes in second they should just make the tiebreaker whoever puts up more points on Rutgers I think I think we we did some research into this I think it goes to the team that had the best schedule like the win loss of their you know their non-whatever opponents and I do think like I can't remember who drew like Northwestern I think it was Penn State they're fucked because of that because Northwestern's probably not going to win a big team game. Yeah, that's tough.
What about the West? Are you buying the Badgers? Are you buying the Dairy Raid? I buy the Badgers long term. That was hurtful what you just said.
I know Booster Cat, you went out and you bought a whole lot of players for your Badgers and went out and you bought Luke Fickle, but I just think that what he's going to do with Phil Longo coming in, and I know that it gets overblown. Like, they're going to run the air raid, the dairy raid.
But, like, when Phil Longo was at North Carolina, there were seasons where the Tar Heels had two running backs who rushed for 1,000 yards. It's not like he doesn't know how to run the football.
They're not going to be throwing it 80 times a game. But my only concern is to go from the transition of what Wisconsin always has been to what they're trying to be, even in the transfer portal era, it's really hard to do that in one offseason.
So I think there are going to be growing pains. I think defensively they might take a slight step back because Jim Leonard's gone.
He's at Illinois now. I don't know if you're aware of that big card.
Wait, wait, wait. He's a Wisconsin guy, though.
No, no, it turns out he's an Illinois guy now. That's crazy because I thought he was going to be the next head coach.
That's what I was told too, but, you know, Mr. Cat stabbed him in the back.
Well, as soon as Kirk Ferencz finishes his 80-year contract, Brett Bielema, what does he have tattooed on his ankle? An Iowa Hawkeye logo. Oh, interesting.
Okay, so there you go. He didn't seem to care when he was winning Big Ten titles at Wisconsin.
Well, you know, he was there for a little bit of time. Now you've got your best coach ever.
Brett big 10 day media days this is his this he's finishing oh he's never said that before he's never gonna leave no coach has ever said this is my dream job but i'm here forever i've made amends with bielma i like him again there was a time when i was not so happy because you know the whole like karma thing and you know it hurt me but now i'm i'm cool with him i love him because he's made Illinois good yeah but no back to Wisconsin I think that I think long-term fickle is a fantastic hire for them I think that they are going to win a fuck ton of games with him there because I think Luke fickle is a very good coach I mean he got Cincinnati to the playoff and then that team had nine players taken in the NFL draft he knows what he's doing he's seen blueprint. And I've seen people use like the six and six year at Ohio State

where he was like the interim and they had a bunch of people suspended

because of dumb penalties.

It's like, oh, he can't win in the Big Ten.

He'll be fine.

I just think that this year Wisconsin's probably more likely to be 8-4

than it is 10-2 or 11-1.

So I think you're going to have to wait on that.

Nine wins is what I would like.

I think if you win nine games, it was a very good year.

But I like Iowa. I know it is fun to shit on iowa for the offense but like it wasn't that long ago it was the 2020 season when iowa scored 32 points per game it's not like this is something that has not been happening for iowa for a long time it's the last couple of years they had a terrible quarterback who could not do anything.

Like, I don't think there was anything schematically that Brian Ferentz was doing that kept Iowa from scoring points.

They just didn't have the dudes.

So what's it going to be?

Is it going to be, is Iowa going to finish with a higher points per game total or higher

ranking in the top 25 at the end of the season?

Both.

I think that this is, I mean, they're going to score, I'm on record, they're going to

score 31 points per game.

And I think they're...

31?

Yeah.

I guess if this is... I mean, they're going to score...
I'm on record. They're going to score 31 points per game, and I think they're...
31? Yeah. I guess if you put in a punt return and...
No, the defense is totally going to play a part in that. Tom, they finished with 18.6 points per game last year.
I don't give a fuck. Go look at 2020.
They scored 32 points per game. I also don't give a fuck.
It was great betting on Iowa last year being like, all right, if I'm laying a number, I know they need to score on defense or special teams. And then they would.
Yeah. Iowa, the years it has a decent quarterback and a tight end and a receiver, it scores points.
So what do they go out in the portal? They get Cade McNamara from Michigan, who helped get them to the college football playoff a couple years ago. They get Eric All, a very talented pass-catching tight end, who maybe he's not the George Kittle type of blocking tight ends that Iowa is used to, but he can contribute in the passing game.
And you get Caleb Brown, a transfer wide receiver who couldn't get on the field at Ohio State because they've got an NFL roster at Ohio State, but is a very talented player himself. They have talent at the skill position that they haven't had in three years.
You didn't mention the fullback. The fullback, too.
Of course. What's his name? Hayden Large?

Yeah, 6'5", 300 pounds.

Actually, Donald Trump.

He's built like Donald Trump.

What a name.

Yeah, 6'3", 215.

But I think they're going to be fine.

I think they're going to score a bunch of points,

and I think they're going to win the West.

I think they are the best team.

They're the one I have the fewest questions about.

Interesting. Damn it.

I did not see it going that way.

That hurts. They have to play Wisconsin and Madison.
Yeah, that wasn't a problem for most teams last year. Yeah.
All right. I don't like it.
You have one good year. I'm just saying we're a football school now.
It's like, you know. What were you before? We were a basketball school.
Trying to be a basketball school. At one point, a basketball school.
What's James Madison? Like a rugby school? We won the rugby school we won the sunbelt last year you remember that tom no i don't you got a pizza party a huge pizza party give me a fun belt preview 10 seconds or less uh it's fun james madison is going to be good app state is going to be good south alabama is still going to be good it's time all right all right how's your fun going. Fun belt is awesome.
No, it's a very fun conference, and I'm on the record. I mean, especially now that teams have left the AAC, like the AAC loses Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston to the Big 12, I think the Sun Belt's going to be the best G5 conference within the next 10 years because it's the same thing as the SEC, all the football and population growth moving towards the Southeast is kind of growing that conference as far as talent wise, because they're getting a lot of the, you know, quote unquote leftovers that the SEC leaves behind.
And there's just a buy-in from all the schools about wanting their football programs to be good. It's not like we were, you know, they didn't add Rutgers because of cable boxes.
They added James Madison because they gave a shit about football and want to play football. So I think long-term Sunbelt's going to be good it's not like we were you know they didn't add rutgers because of cable boxes they added james madison because they gave a shit about football and want to play football so i think long term sunbelt's gonna be the best g5 so do you think that the sunbelt's gonna be better than the acc again this year it could be i mean the acc is three teams and then a whole lot of i don't know so tom when we were sitting outside before we started this interview i mentioned that i was going to uh tuscaloosa for Texas-Alabama week two, the college football show, Barstool College Football Show.
We'll be there. I don't know if I'm breaking news, but we will be there.
And Tom just whispered, Texas is going to win that game. They are.
So Big 12, Texas, it's the year? It is. We have to do our predictions at the beginning of every season on CBSSsports.com and i was asked for the most underrated team in the country and i chose texas and it felt really fucked up to think of texas as being underrated because it is perpetually overrated every single year but i really do think this year's longhorns team is going to be very good like they are i've got them winning the big 12 i got them in the college football playoff picture they're not anywhere near good enough to win a national title but they could be like you know the TCU of the world and get to the playoff because they've got Quinn Ewers a quarterback who we saw last year in Austin they nearly beat Alabama until Ewers got hurt and went down and they still hung tight in that game and Alabama still needed a last minute like field goal to come back and win it I think they've improved the overall talent of that roster.
I think Ewers gives them a much higher ceiling. And if you're looking at Alabama and Texas, like Quinn Ewers versus, I don't know, Jalen Milrow, that seems like a huge advantage in Texas's favor in that matchup, even in Tuscaloosa.
So I think talent-wise, they've done a very good job of building that roster where they're closer on par with the SEC teams that they're going to be competing with in the future and I think they have a huge quarterback advantage over most teams that they're going to play and in this sport that goes a long way you are in direct opposition with Andy Staples on that I think you said they're the most overrated well he's a twitch streamer what is it who cares what Andy thinks it's not wait so who else if not Texas then who because the big 12 is is it feels like it's fun every single year I'm actually happy with the whole conference realignment. It feels like the Big 12 will continue to be fun with the team they added.
But Kansas State was great last year. Baylor was good last year.
There's these teams that people don't really expect, and it's just a hard conference to play. Two things can be true.
One is that the Big 12 is really fun because like especially last year, nobody in that league was like there was no gap. There was no top tier team.
Everybody was close enough to where week by week you're going to have a ton of fun games and anybody can beat anybody. But still, TCU played eight one score games.
It's not like they were blowing the doors off the teams. But the other part of that is true is that Oklahoma and Texas were mediocre last year.
They of did not live up to their expectations which allowed the rest of the league to kind of step up I don't know if Oklahoma is going to have a big bounce back year I think they're going to be better than they were last year but I do think Texas if if there is an elite team in that conference this year it is Texas but I agree with you in that between TCU who I think just naturally has to kind of come back to earth a little bit because besides of everything that they lost like I said they played a lot of one score games we'll never forget that crazy two minute drill to get the field goal against Baylor to win where they're scrambling on the field with no timeouts and they get the kickoff and they make it I think Baylor's still going to be good Kansas State is just a very well coached team that doesn't do stupid shit and if you do that in college football, you're going to win plenty of games. I don't think Kansas last year was a fluke.
I look at that league. I think having Cincinnati, UCF, Houston, and BYU coming in, they are probably going to struggle a little bit, but I don't think the gap between them and the rest of that league is significant enough to where they won't be able to win some games.
only team i look at in the big 12 that i have serious concerns about the bottom falling out is west virginia because they come in with their coaches already on the hot seat they have a very tough non-conference they start the year with penn state they get pit like that's a team that could lose three or three or four of its first games and then you fire the coach and then you go to the interim and then everybody just kind of quits and then you know everything bottoms out So when I look at the Big 12 as a whole, I think Texas is the best team, and I think West Virginia is the only team with a chance to be terrible. Okay.
All right. What about future Big 12 team, Colorado? Our boy, Deion.
I know what people are saying nationally about Deion. There's a big conversation about him.
Where should the expectations be for Colorado this year? If Colorado gets to a bowl game, Deion should get a lifetime extension for running that program. Because here's the thing.
There's been a ton of attention about what he's done in the transfer portal bringing all these guys in. And he's got Shadur, his son, at quarterback, who was very good at Jackson State.
We have not seen him play at this level yet, but he's a talented player. So that's important to have.
The quarterback's most important position. position you get Travis Hunter who is a phenomenal player at any level I know he was looked like he was playing a different sport than most of the kids he was facing last year he is a genuine two-way threat kind of like Dion where he's going to be the best corner on the field and he might be Colorado's best receiver too and so they have very talented players but they just don't have the depth yet and my concern for Colorado is its offensive line and its defensive line I don't know if they have enough guys there yet to really compete in the Pac-12 because while the Pac-12 the bottom of the conference is pretty soft and they might be able to find some wiggle room to pick up a few wins down there the top of that league is still pretty good they don't have an elite team but they have a lot of very good teams and they have like Utah, if you look at Utah just beating the shit out of people the last few years and punch people in the mouth, they're going to crush a Colorado.
In Oregon State, a Washington State, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado can compete with those teams. So it's going to be a case of how healthy do they stay.
If they don't suffer a bunch of injuries, as long as Travis Hunter's playing, as long as Der Sanders is playing, they can flirt with going 6-6, six five and seven but I think they're far more likely to win three or four games so the Dion debate conversation is never going to die down as long as he's there and he's either like there's going to be if they go three and nine there's gonna be way too much of a push back and say see I told you this when it worked but the truth is for the rebuild kind of thing that they're taking on you need need to give him three years before you can really judge whether it's working or not. Yeah, I want to see Ralphie run somebody over.
That's what I want to see. I want to see some spark out of Ralphie the Buffalo.
Those cowboys that bring him out, I just sit there. I do.
I watch. It's like, come on, trample.
Yeah, that's what ruined trample. Anytime they bring out the boomer schooner, I want to see that thing fall over.
I want to see Ralphie the Buffalo run over some cheerleaders. That's what college football is about.
It's about animals attacking people. They should put him on the sideline.
Just have him next to the opponent's sideline. It's her.
It's she. Well, they should have her on the opponent's sideline, just intimidating the shit out of him.
Because imagine you're standing there trying to watch a football game and there's a buffalo standing two feet behind you just snorting. You're going to be kind of nervous.
It'd be great. So the Pac-12, though, whole, is going to be, like the top is going to be very strong.
They have a ton of great quarterbacks coming back. Caleb Williams, Michael Penix, Bo Nix, Cam Rising, Cam Ward.
Can the Pac-12 finally stop cannibalizing themselves and maybe get into the college football playoff before we go to a 12 team and then we just forget that the Pac-12 just never had a team for like 10 years yes it's possible the problem is that you look at those Pac-12 teams and all of them like obviously every team has a weakness but I mean they all have significant weaknesses at certain spots like with me with USC I already mentioned earlier like that defense from what I saw against San Jose State last week a lot of the same problems that existed last last year are still there they do not tackle well they when they get pressure on a quarterback or in the backfield they're great if they don't they get torn apart who does Alex Grinch have blackmail on I don't know I mean him and Lincoln are just boys like he Alex everyone talks about Alex Grinch we all have that friend we all have that friend who we know we shouldn't be hanging with, but we're just kind of ride or die with him anyway. And it's like, that's our boy.
We're just sticking to him. Yeah, that's like your Jake.
So that's kind of Alex Grinch to Lincoln Riley, I guess, because I do feel like the one thing that has kept Lincoln Riley from winning a national title is a defense. He just keeps bringing Grinch back every year and every year.
It's saying, this will work, this will work. Maybe it finally will.
I'm still skeptical. It was the first game of of the season you don't want to read too much into it washington is fantastic michael pennix has a rocket arm they've got two very good receivers but my concern is michael pennix has had injury problems in the past if he goes down i think there's not i don't i don't know what's behind that i think that's a team whose season could be derailed by one injury or again Bo Nix is Bo Nix like I Heisman he's looking really good this is the year

um that I think that's a team whose season could be derailed by one injury or again Bo Nix is Bo Nix like I Heisman he's looking really good this is the year um but Bo Nix like he was very consistent last year and it's the first time in his career that he's been consistent can he be consistent again for another year I don't know I think their secondary is very sketchy defensively they're kind of they remind me of USC in a lot of ways they're going to be having to win a lot of 45 to 40 games which they're capable of doing but it's hard to do that week in and week out and Utah is Cam rising healthy he tore his ACL late last season we don't know what his status truly is for this week's game against Florida they need him and also defensively they kind of like last year year, they were getting punched in the mouth a lot more than you're used to seeing Utah

get punched in the mouth.

Like they gave up a lot of big plays in the run game.

They weren't as physical.

Can they get back to being that?

If they do, they are once again my favorite to win that conference

because they're just the most complete team.

Okay.

Caleb Williams, give me a reason why I should doubt him.

You shouldn't.

I want to doubt him so bad.

Fingernails.

Yeah, he's not a team guy. He paints on his finger.
I i mean who's the last quarterback to win a super bowl with painted fingernails uh nobody exactly never happened so no i caleb williams is the real fucking deal like it's i everybody you know you do the bit with you know mahomes makes this throw everybody goes nuts yeah everybody when there's a great quarterback compares all the college quarterbacks of this guy's the next mahomes caleb williams is the only one i've seen who actually plays like patrick mahomes check downs yes he's a check down but like he he scrambles around he makes ridiculously stupid throws like against san jose state the other day there was the one where he he drops the snap he picks it up he takes one step to, and without taking a step forward, launches the ball in the air 50 yards down the field on a dime to his receiver for a touchdown. People can't do that.
Like, that was just insane. But you also see when he scrambles around, like Mahomes, he's not looking to run.
He just kind of moves around, and he's always constantly looking downfield, waiting for one of the really talented players he has at receiver

to finally break free of the defense.

And then no matter what direction he's moving or what position he is in,

he can fire the ball on a dime to every single part of the field.

And it is truly incredible to watch.

It's why I think he's the best player in college.

It's why I think he'll be the first pick in the draft.

And it's why I think he's going to be the first guy to win the Heisman

in consecutive years since Archie Griffin.

Whoa.

Bold take. Whoa.
I like this. Who else have you got in the He and it's why i think he's going to be the first guy to win the heisman in consecutive years since archie griffin wow so whoa i like this who else you got the heisman finals uh right now i would say quinn ewers has a shot to get there i think bo nix is going to get there if he has the same kind of season he had last year and then there's always the guy who kind of comes out of nowhere i i don't maybe jj mccarthy if michigan wins a big 10, it could be whoever ends up being Ohio state's quarterback, which we, again, we don't know yet.
It's going to be, uh, I think Devin Brown or, uh, what the hell is the other kid's name? Who I can't record Kyle McCord. So they could be in the picture.
Marvin Harrison jr. Will be in the picture, but it's such a quarterback award.
Like I know Devante Smith won a couple years ago, but it is still, by and large, so many Heisman voters aren't really, like, watching every game week in and week out. You need a Heisman moment.
Do you have a Heisman vote? Yeah, I do. Who did you vote for? That's what started our rivalry, by the way, with this guy over here.
The first time you mentioned I had a Heisman vote on the show, his response was, that guy has a Heisman vote? Oh, yeah, because he thought that you were a cartoon dog. Yes, exactly.
Yes, I do have a Heisman vote, so I can speak that. They gave Ignatius J.
Reilly a Heisman vote? Can we get you to give your Heisman vote right now? No, I can't. I'm actually not legally allowed to say who I vote for until after the awards.
Okay, legally. Before you said, no matter what, I'm voting Brock Bowers.
And I was like, really? A tight end? Yeah, for sure.

I love Brock Bowers.

He'll get Heisman hype.

I don't know if he'll actually deserve it, but he will get plenty of Heisman hype for it.

But yeah, I think, I mean, there's lots of dudes who are going to step forward and have really big years.

So it's hard to say who's going to win it.

But I think the Trump card that Caleb Williams has is what gets held against guys when they win it the first time and come back is they get held up to a standard that they haven't even achieved themselves yet it's like well you did this last year why haven't you done this Caleb Williams is going to put up the same kind of numbers he did last year but the one trump card he has left is that USC didn't win the Pac-12 and get to the playoff so if they do both of those things this year and he has the same kind of season and he's the reason for doing it and USC is back that's going to get him enough votes from the casual Heisman voters who don't really watch or follow the sport okay okay give me one team outside of the power conferences one team that we're going to see hanging around the top 10 at the end of the season uh Tulane will still be there I think they are you know Michael Pratt coming back was huge there were a bunch of teams after him in the transfer portal just throwing money at him and he decided to stay at Tulane and I think that's very good for the Green Wave. And I think this is going to be kind of a renaissance season for Boise State.
Oh. I like their quarterback, Taylor Green, a lot.
I think that in the Mountain West, they have a very good shot to kind of run the table in there and have a very good season and therefore be in that kind of playoff picture all season long. So if I have to pick two G5s right now, I would go Tul and boise oh i nothing pissed me off more than i listen week zero i usually just bet whatever and i don't look into anything when i had a significant amount of money on louisiana tech and realized that i bet on hank bachmeyer yes i was like what the fuck yes this guy again they played fiu whose quarterback completed five passes for four yards and louisiana tech still didn't take their first lead of that game until there was a minute left man that's always every week zero yeah every week zero i'm like fuck this guy damn it the transfer portal really does kind of fuck things up because there are it's like i'll turn in you know it's It's hard to follow all 133 teams closely, and it's like I'll turn it on on the first Saturday or second Saturday of the season.
I'm like, what the fuck is this dude playing for this? It changes things quite a bit. Talk to me about Notre Dame real quick.
Are we waking up the echoes? No. No, but I mean that's a pretty impressive performance.
It was a very impressive performance, and Sam Hartman is a huge upgrade over what they had at quarterback last year. There's no denying that.
I think they're better at the receiver position, which was a problem for me with them last year. They just had no explosive plays outside the numbers.
It was all throw to Michael Mayer over the middle and see if he can break a tackle. They have Pine Cone as their quarterback.
An amazing moment for the punsters out there. But, I mean, the thing that's holding Notre Dame back is its schedule.
Like, they have to play Ohio State. They have to play Clemson.
They have to play USC. They're not getting through all those games without losing at least one, if not two of them, even though two of them are at home.
And then you have other tough games. Like, NC State's going to be a tough game.
Duke on the road is going to be – they're going to win, but it's going to a tougher game so it's it's really hard for them to get through that schedule and think they're going to get back to the playoff this year they kind of made things a little too difficult on themselves so you mentioned clemson the acc the forgotten conference uh is clemson is are they going to write the ship because dabbo he's on my hot seat he's on my hot seat he's on the hot seat what do you think has to happen for dabbo to get fired 10 win season actually well last year they had the most disappointing 10 win season of all time true they told us he would quit once college players started to get paid it's true he has he has since turned you know he has rectified that statement and says you know what it's not so bad but i i do think Clemson's in a very good spot in that there has been so much attention and hype on Florida State during the offseason that it's allowing Clemson to fly under the radar, which is a very weird thing to say about Clemson because they have dominated that league for the last decade for the most part. So I do think getting rid of DJU was probably a good thing for them.
Nice job saying it that way. Uyungle way there we go um but i i think they just kind of had to move on i think that made things too awkward you know he was supposed to be the next great clemson qb and it didn't work out and they were just kind of playing him out of loyalty it was a notre dame game i think that was the best game i've ever seen yeah he was insane they're also just afraid of his dad going to kick my ass.
He's a large man, yeah. But I think, you know, like, they also had the transition last year of, the one thing that Clemson has had through all these years is they've kind of had, you know, continuity at the coordinator position.
So they'd lost Tony Elliott to Virginia. Jeff Scott had left for USF.
And then Brent Venables leaves to go take over the Oklahoma job. So it's a lot of of guys in new positions for the first time and the one thing about dabu is like the same reason he's too loyal to dj he's too loyal to his guys at times and they don't change things up like they were too predictable too stale you talk to other acc coaches and they would just straight up tell you they're the only reason they can beat us is they have more talent than us we know exactly what they're doing every single play like just based on their alignment we know what's coming at us they're just better than us and they'll beat us but that caught up to them last year when they didn't have Trevor Lawrence or Deshaun Watson at quarterback so this year Cade Clubnick the jury is still out I think he's pretty talented but I think the most important thing they did was they got Garrett Riley who is Lincoln's younger brother he was the offensive coordinator at TCU last year he's coming in so they're finally making the changes on offense that Clemson fans and I think the general national media have been saying they need to make for a few years now I think that's going to be a huge boost to them I think they're going to have a very solid season and I do think it'll be between them and Florida State so that's probably got to be one of the game of the years if whoever wins that Clemson Florida State game is going to win that league is there league.
Is there anyone else in the ACC that we have to worry about? I mean, Drake May is obviously going to be a top five pick. Drake May is very good.
I don't think North Carolina is very good. And I don't think Drake May is good enough to paper over North Carolina's deficiencies everywhere else on that roster.
Because defensively, they've been a mess for a long time. And I don't think they've fixed anything enough this offseason to think that that's going to improve.
So they're going to have to win a lot of 45-42 games, which Drake May is capable of doing. But when you run into Clemson and Florida State, you run into the good teams, you're in trouble.
I think NC State is a team that too many people are sleeping on. I think they've got a very good defensive line, and I think that they've been very consistent over the years.
So they're probably still going to be good. Louisville people are hyping up because they have a ridiculously easy schedule, and it is ridiculously easy, and they do also have the homecoming factor of Jeff Brom coming back.
But I just don't think they're that good. I think Scott Satterfield, he got a lot of hate from Louisville fans, some of which was deserved, some of which I just think was people being mad at the coach because that's what you do when you're team winning games.
He did say also his favorite part about Louisville is it's 15 minutes away from the airport. And he's too honest.
That is the one thing about Satterfield. He loved the airport line, and then he also said when he interviewed for the South Carolina job, he was like, yeah, I interviewed for the South Carolina job.
It's like, why would you tell the fan base that? But anyways, that's something he had to live and learn from. So I think they're going to be good, but I think the ACC, for the most part, it is a two-team league.
And there's other good teams. Like I should mention Pitt, another good team in that league.
But there's – once you get past Florida State and Clemson, it's just a bunch of citrus bowl kind of teams. Right.
So give me your Final Four, and then give me one team that the entire fan base is going to be pissed off at you for not including in the final four? Oh, that's easy. Georgia, Michigan, Ohio state, USC, and Alabama is going to be pissed at me for not putting them in the playoff because I don't even think like we had for our predictions.
It was like we had to put in our top four and then the first two out. I didn't even have Alabama in the first two.
Oh, who were your first two out? LSU and Texas. Saban probably loves you now.
Actually. Saban loves the disrespect.
Yeah, look, Tom Verrilli, this cartoon dog. I hope I'm on the lock.
You were the biggest purveyor of rat poison in the past, and now you're just not giving him any respect whatsoever. I don't think Nick Saban knows I exist, to be honest with you.
Do you think Nick Saban has a— Do you think he'd recognize your name? No. I don't think Nick Saban— I think Nick Saban is more in tune with the media than he wants you to believe because he is on ESPN at the end of the year doing like their playoff games when Alabama's not in it.
So pathetic. But but I don't think he like outside of the local people that cover Alabama and maybe some of like the big name reporters There's the Weather Channel guys too.
Yeah, the Weather Channel guys. I don't think Nick knows too many other national people outside of anything.

Yeah, you're probably right.

Hey, Hank, who's your top four?

USC.

Wisconsin.

Oh.

LSU.

Oh.

James Madison.

He's thinking. This is a big thing.
This is really tough. It's very important.
He wants to get this right. Penn State.
Oh, I like Penn State. That would be a hell of a Final Four.
My colleague at CBS Sports, Dennis Dodd's Final Four, was Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. Oh, I love it.
I was like, Dennis, I have no idea how that plays out. And then if Georgia wins wins then it's yeah like are we gonna throw all three of them at the same time yeah just mow through the big 10 yeah just a gauntlet uh is there a game that i i know that you know they released the lines for week one and you probably saw one game that you were like i cannot wait texas tech minus 14 against wyoming okay all right we're on it how units? I went full.
I mean, go as many as you're comfortable going, but it's game of the year territory for me. Game of the year? I'm going to bet on it right now before the Masters here.
You're probably going to move the line tomorrow. You know I don't take game of the year as lightly.
No, I'm not saying make it a game of the year, but I'm saying that's how confident. No, you said game of the year.
You said you would make it a game of the year. That's how confident I am in the pick.
I think that line is a little short by about a touchdown. Game of the year.
That line's going to move. I've got to get on it now.
Game of the year. If this misses, Tom, we're going to suspend you.
I have Texas Tech minus 14. I also have Texas Tech alternate lines at minus 20.
So I feel pretty good about this one. All right.
What about week one NFL? Who's Buffalo playing? They're minus two and a half. The Jets.
The Jets. I like Buffalo minus two and a half.
The Jets are getting way too much respect. I agree with that.
We were talking in the car, and I obviously bit the Jets for my ghost pick, which I don't expect to do anything, but I had to do it because the ghost told me to pick it. The Bills are a weird team where their last game that we all remember with the Bengals game was atrocious.
But they went 13-3 last year, and their three losses were all by, like, two points. Yeah.
And it's like, wait, this team is still really fucking good. We just saw them have their worst possible moment as their last game of the year.
And, I mean, I do think the Jets are going to be better this year but like look that he gave a little memes memes will meme you to death you know what he's been doing to max you've seen it yes if there's any crimes in illinois memes will have your face on it we said before the show max is a very memeable face you can fit him into a lot of criminals he's obsessed with max i think i think the jets are gonna be better because they have you know really talented receivers and they have that quarterback but i just think week one when aaron rogers has hardly played at all in the preseason going up against a buffalo team that clearly has a lot that it's playing for and has a lot of experience playing together buffalo should are you are you gonna flip with me and just be be like Aaron Rodgers never said a bad word about that guy? Oh, no. Fuck Aaron Rodgers.
Oh, you're staying with that. Aaron, if you're listening, fuck you.
Wouldn't it be very funny if he was very successful with the Jets and the Packers fans? Like, he took less money. He wanted to get out of there.
If he was happy. If the Bears don't win the Super Bowl this year, the ideal scenario is jets beating the packers in the super yeah yeah actually i i kind of agree with what big cat saying that if aaron rogers wins two super bowls with the jets correct that makes the entire packers organization even if he wins one miserable if he wins one in one year and he won one in what 16 years well i mean when when payton won one with broncos i don't think everybody was wow, Indy's a clown show.
I think if you win two with the new team, then it's like, oh, that first organization was holding him back. Yeah, yeah, but also Peyton had the – he went to two Super Bowls, so it was like a little – he'd have been in the Broncos.
I'm saying this year. If he won it this year, it would be phenomenal.
It would be hilarious. It wouldn't be phenomenal.
It would be hilarious. I would laugh about it, but I would not be happy about it.
He'd go in as a Jet. That actually, yes.
If he goes into the Hall of Fame as a Jet, I will love Aaron Rodgers. We always fuck this up.
I don't think in Canton they go in as a team. It's baseball.
No, but if he says it on the podium, I always give him his speech. Yeah, I'm going in as a Jet.
Once a Jet, always a Jet. He has Woody Johnson introduce him.
He's like, this is the greatest owner in NFL history. This is for all my Jets fans.

That would be that.

I'll go on Aaron Rodgers' side.

If he opens up his speech with J-E-T-S, Jets.

Yes.

Yes.

That would be great.

These are great thoughts.

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What other games are we looking at week one? I mean – I just fired a missile on Texas Tech, Tom. Good.
You're going to win money. You'll be happy you did.
The Florida-Utah game is one of the bigger games. That's very interesting on Thursday night.
But I also feel like week one overall is kind of soft. It's not great.
would say that Florida Utah game has a chance to be very fun it might have a chance for overreactions like if Florida plays well we might think they're a lot better than they are plus that's what I'm saying Graham Mertz I mean come on imagine if he throws like four touchdowns with only one incompletion in the entire game could you imagine was it yeah whatever it was a long time ago it was COVID 22 for 23 memories hazy season didn't count um but I think that's an interesting game. I think the was five.
Was it? Yeah. Whatever.
It was a long time ago. It was COVID.
22 for 23. Memory's hazy.
Season didn't count. But I think that's an interesting game.
I think the Penn State-West Virginia game could be very interesting, too, in that West Virginia is, I mentioned them earlier, they have the chance to really bottom out. But more than anything, I want to see Penn State.
Because West Virginia, right now in week one, will be a good team. I don't know if they'll still be a good team in week six.
And I think it's a nice little test for Penn State. And then obviously the LSU-Florida State game.
Do you have a pick there? Yeah, LSU, Moneyline. I'm not going to fuck with the spread on that one.
I'm just going to take the Tigers. It was a crazy game last year.
And I think the Tigers are a better overall team than Florida State. And I also think Florida State did a lot of work in the transfer portal during the offseason.
So it's one of those things where it's a team that's used to playing together, playing a team with a lot of new guys who haven't fought together yet. And that can sometimes give somebody an advantage, even in a quote-unquote neutral site like Orlando.
Yes. All right.
Okay. It's been great.
Tom, you're the best. Any last thoughts for college football uh yeah I uh go back to the BCS I remember you you once used to be on this side of the world yeah yeah why not computers yeah no no not that computer so much although they're you know chat GPT it's pretty smart AI they can figure things out the best two teams yeah and you just put the two best teams in there and you don't spend the entire year talking about this nine and three team having a chance to make the playoff and whether they can win the national title oh i do have one last question because this is a good way to make money what is uh give me the worst team in each power five conference because that usually until you can really like until it's it settles into everyone's brain that this team is absolute garbage you can usually win some money against them uh northwestern i think is too obvious but they are the worst team in the big 10 the worst team in the big 12 i think it right now i'd pick houston but by the end of the year like i said i think could be west virginia but i would bet against houston early in the year would you rather be a good team at northwestern or would you rather have a strong moral compass because that's what we decided to do this this offseason.
We're going back to what made Northwestern great, which was sucking at football but doing it honorably. Let's be honest.
We're all dudes in this room. You haven't spanked your friends nude.
I mean, come on. You haven't done the human loofah? No, I mean, come on.
Shrek clap? Yeah. We used to do the Shrek clap over Billy's head before every single podcast.
It is great that Darren Revelle has to be the one who stands on a soapbox being like hazing and bullying is fine i think it is in certain instances yeah um the big let's see the pac-12 the worst team god cal stanford i'm i'm hot i don't think stanford is gonna be awful this year but i think they probably more often than not end up as the worst team and especially since they've got a new coach and a new offense early in the season i would bet against them the sec the worst team kind of tough vandy's not terrible no although vandy their their offensive line worried me a bit again that hawaii game but i i'm gonna go and this is this feels bad because it's not really their fault i'm gonna go mississippi brandon's not here right, right? No. I'm going to go Mississippi State because you think of what they have to deal with in that it's not like they fired their coach.
Their coach died, and it's not something you can really game plan for. And then you don't go through the coaching search of finding his replacement.
You just promote the defensive coordinator, Zach Arnett, who is completely overhauling the offense. He's getting rid of what Mississippi State has been using to win games, but he still mostly has personnel that fits that offense, and he might have some of that D.C.
brain that you see sometimes when a defensive coordinator becomes the head coach, and he just wants to try to win games 6-3. So I think Mississippi State has a chance to have a pretty bad year, but I would say it's either them or Vandy, but I'm not going to officially say vandy since my friend works for them okay and then acc because this this also by the way this is key for like like a northwestern will these really bottom of the barrel uh power five teams they'll lose to a mac team they'll lose and they always get credit in the spread where they'll be like seven 10-point favorites.
It's like, no, they're not good. Yeah, ACC, I'm going to go Georgia Tech or Boston College, although I do think Boston College is going to bounce back.
They were very bad last year, but I don't think many people realize how many injuries they had, especially on the offensive line. So I think that just being moderately healthy improves BC, so I'm going to go with Georgia Tech.
Do they have the quarterback back? No, Yurkovich. He transferred to Pitt.
How many years does Georgia Tech have to suck before we get them back running the triple option? If you're a Georgia Tech fan, it's the worst to switch styles completely and then suck at that style. That's the thing.
Georgia Tech fans, when they made the move and went to Jeff Collins, they're like, we're finally getting rid of the triple option they were like happy and excited about it and they've had to watch how it's worked out for them i i think that we need more triple option i think georgia tech is a school we've seen the triple option work but i don't think georgia tech is i i think there are some power five schools who would be better off running that but i don't think georgia tech is one of them but i'd be happy if they go back to it i think that it's and we're seeing it too like this is getting off topic one of the more concerning things go back to last week's game against notre dame navy's in the shotgun don't army army's going to be in the shotgun this year and running an offense it looks a lot more like what we've seen from coastal carolina in the last years like the option as we know it is kind of going away which is sad because my service academy unders principle is probably going to die with it too that is sad it's very sad i like the service academy overs what what army navy losing yeah well no army navy did you win or lose that last year it's true it's for the ninth time in 55 games i did lose the bet yeah do you feel good about that though when you hit an under on the service yeah he's a sicko it's no you're betting against america He's a fucking sicko. No, I'm not.
I'm betting against the bet. Do you feel good about that, though, when you hit an under on the service? Yeah, he's a sicko.
No, you're betting against America. He's a fucking sicko.
No, I'm not. I'm betting against the defense of this country.
No, you're not, Tom. Protecting us from points.
Tom's pick six, though, for anyone out there is always very sharp. I know Tom in a more personal way where he texts me his 25 picks on Saturday.
and then I text him back my 35 picks,

and then we pump each other up.

I'm like, let's have a day.

Let's do it.

We're going 10 and 13 today.

Hank, do you have any questions for Tom?

How dare you?

No, I mean, are you sad the golf season's over?

Golf season's not over, Hank.

Wait, that's your rule that you have for yourself

that you're violating tomorrow. Well, no, I figured it's, I mean, I can imagine.
You're playing around in golf tomorrow. As the college football season starts, that's will work.
Yeah, I won't be able to golf on the weekends, which are from Friday after work until Sunday night, but I will be able to golf on Monday through Thursday pretty regularly. When you went to school, what days of the week did you go? Let's see, year of high school friday and then in college mondays tuesdays and wednesdays mostly monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday no i didn't go to classes on thursday no i was talking about you know growing up as a no you don't go to college on friday but what time when you got off when like when the bell rang at 3 p.m on friday and you were you know a little third grade hank did you just stay in the classroom or did you go home i would go home and so like were you at the weekend well i'd go home on monday too and tuesday did you wait until did you wait until saturday morning to go play with your friends oh you could play with your friends you could that's the thing the weekdays are subjective it's subjective like it's a state of mind saying it's friday night but it's not.
Friday night is the weekend. Is that a weekend night, Hank? It can be considered a weekend night, depending on your interpretation of it.
But it could also be considered a weekday. My interpretation is that it is a weekend night.
My brain hurts. He's not a world-renowned educated person.
That's true. That's a fact.
That's a fact. Do you remember that thread on bodybuilding.com where those two guys got into

a month-long argument over

how many days are in a week?

I think actually Billy was conceived

in that thread.

Yes, she was in the lab.

All right. Well, Tom, thank you

as always. We'll have you back on mid-season.

Talk some more ball. You're the best.

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And now, here's our highlights from Kentucky Sports Radio. And now for something completely different.
Was it three years ago we put Cal on the hot seat? We took him off last year. Yeah, two years we gave him an extension.
This year, I think he's good. I think there's, like, let's see how it goes out.

It's a big year for Kentucky basketball,

but I feel like they're going to do this one for Harvey,

who, by the way, we want to send our condolences to Harvey's family.

We loved Harvey.

He was a legend.

I told him last year that I put a future on Kentucky

to win the national title that we would split.

I did, in fact, do that.

But an absolutely legendary legendary guy and I hope

like should

Kentucky put a patch on their jersey

for Harvey? I think that we should put another future

on Kentucky this year. Split the

proceeds with Harvey's family.

How about that? When it cashes in? Done.

Let's do it. Let's do the season for Harvey.

Win one for him. Moment of silence for Harvey.

Always good

in radio to do a moment of silence. People think

that their car

radio is broken. But yeah,

I hope you enjoyed it. for him.
Moment of silence for Harvey. Always good in radio to do a moment of silence.
People think that their car radio is broken. That was actually a long moment of silence in radio terms.
That was, but Harvey absolutely, absolute legend. Remember last year he told his vibes.
The vibes were good for Kentucky basketball. I think he was maybe a year off.
I think this year's the vibes are good for Kentucky basketball. Well, I think he hit on something there.
Kentucky football, powerhouse. SEC, I mean, they've shown themselves to be quite a force to be reckoned with in the SEC over the past couple seasons.
I think it's good for Kentucky basketball that they're no longer a basketball school. That Kentucky's a football school.
That's good. All the pressure's off Papari right now.
He's flying under the radar. Nobody really cares in Kentucky if the basketball team is good or not.
They're all focused on the fall. They're focused on football season.
You bring in a good point about Capapari. The hot seat has gotten hotter, but I feel like with the recruits he's brought in, this is the year.
I wonder how Tennessee fans are going to embrace Will Levis as the quarterback for the Titans.

I wonder if there's any lingering resentment there.

It feels like there might be.

There might be some, yeah. Big T now is a Falcons fan, so he can't speak to it.

But we could maybe hear from some people who are volunteer fans and also Kentucky fans.

Or no, volunteer fans and Titans fans.

No, I don't want to hear from any callers because I know Big T probably has most of

them blocked anyways.

Correct.

Any prospective callers.

You're a big block guy?

Oh, huge block guy.

On Twitter?

Yeah.

From the mentions I've gotten this morning though, I don't think I have most of them

blocked.

Oh, okay.

So we're going to have to clean them out.

You're basically like having all the rats come out and be like, all right, now I can

nuke the alley.

No, no.

I won't block Kentucky fans.

I don't punch down.

Okay.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

This is great because usually we're the people that people get mad at in the comments

Thank you. At Connor H.
Knapp. K-N-A-a-p-p okay so at connor h nap everyone find him yeah for anything he says today yeah go do that i think that's totally fair uh that's great can you tell the people what you're wearing what's on that shirt there you you started to brag to me about well no i was specifically wore today and i was asking you i was asking you if you knew what was on the shirt this is beer barrel, the trophy that Tennessee and Kentucky used to play for every year.
Kentucky's won it very seldom. Okay, do we have calls, Rick? Yes, we do.
Joey is up next. Joey, what's up? Oh, hey there.
Big fan, Joey in Lexington. I don't miss an episode of Pardon My Take.
I don't miss a Cats game. I was actually listening to an interview you guys did with that Kenny Smith in the NBA.
And I picked up his book because of you guys. So thank you very much.
Great book. And in that book, he tells a story in 98 towards the end of his career that he was going to get a job at TNT.
And Brian Hill was also up for the job. This is also.
That's how they pronounce it. Also.
And also. And Jake.
Rico. Whoa, sorry.
What was your name? What was your name? That TNC job, because that's their account. What did he say his name was? Joey in Lexington.
Joey. Joey.
Joey. To get the last cut.
Joey. Yes.
Joey. Does that sound like a guy with morals? Does that sound like a guy who violates people laws? Joey, I got a question for you.
What's your favorite part about Keeneland? The horses, as long as they're not getting shot and dying, you know? Oh, okay. Because, Joey, you're a big horse guy.
I think you're the guy. I think I heard you once say that Bob Baffert was riding the horses.
Yeah, that was a long time ago, Dan. I think a long time ago I was potentially a convicted felon, but people could change.
If you could change, I could change. I think your co-host there would maybe say that.
Hey, Big T, you want to weigh in there? People pile on you. You think people could change? Yeah, I mean, I don't know Joey in Lexington, but he sounds like a pretty straight shooter, good guy.
Well, not a straight shooter. Literally not a straight shooter.
No, it was straight. There's a lot of people who have been tweeting me today saying they wish that Joey in Lexington had better aim.
So that we wouldn't have to have the show right now. No, he had great aim.
I'm just built different, and I dodged. But the aim was impeccable.
He shot a little bit to the right. If it was Mariano Rivera, Joey, I think that would have connected, right? Yeah.
Well, maybe a drowning, a different animal. Joey, I got a question for you.
I'm doing these inside bar school things. I don't really follow.
I just want to get some comments on Cal Farris being a first-round exit every year after every year. That's good, Joey.
Self-aware. I got a question for you.
You don't like Cal Parry. It makes, you know, it doesn't really make sense, but you don't like him.
What do you think, in terms of morals, Coach Cal versus Nate Oates? I would say one goes to church every Sunday. One is building a program.
You know, he get kids from five stars from a program that hasn't been storied, like Kentucky going all the way back to Adolph Rump. I mean, Kentucky.
This guy's born on third. Thought he hit a triple.
All right. So Nate Oates goes to church every Sunday, so he's absolved from everything else that he does.
Is that what you're telling me? Joey from Lexington is basically going with the, you know,

Hitler had built highways.

I never covered that in my history book. I just know that the SEC title runs through Tuscaloosa.

But you live in Lexington, Joey.

And you never miss a Cats game.

What's going on here, Joey?

It's not adding up.

It's starting to fall apart, Joey.

It is.

I mean, if things are changing. You've got to be

able to say that. You've got to call a spade a spade.

So when it comes to Alabama basketball,

Joey, they haven't been

disappointing, have they? They've excelled.

They've won multiple titles.

A couple of free throws against UCLA

eight years back. It's a tough one.

And then the injury

bug, JQ goes down. Last year, it was just a tough one.
That San Diego State team, you know, tough team. Listen, I know a guy in New York, he's friends with David Velasquez.
He's on some high list to take a head coaching job. They say he's got the most powerful phone in the country.
David Velasquez, he saw him at the Final Four, and now he's going to be a head job somewhere. So that's the San Diego State team.
That's a tough team. Now, Joey, I know that you're a die-hard Wildcats fan.
What about Louisville? I know that you like Louisville basketball, right? They're building something. They do, yeah.
Nolan Smith, he's a good guy. I saw it today.
Actually, I'm a little worried. He's interviewing for a G League head spot.
I saw. Oh, you saw that.
I got out to Trilly Donovan. Trilly Donovan has got all the rumors.
Joey, you sound like you're a gambler. We do have college football week one coming up.
You're an Alabama fan. I see that they're playing Middle Tennessee.
The line is minus 40. Are you thinking maybe taking them first quarter minus six and a half? If it's available, you can only take what's available.
Oh, okay. I don't think that's not a real line, is it? Joey's really good at gambling because he just makes up fake lines and then he's like, I got it.
I did it. I got it on Tuesday.
I'm not saying that Joey does this, but I have heard stories about people that will see a line when it comes out, see which lines move the most, and then go back and retroactively say that they bet that line before it moves. Yeah, I think that would get you in prison with the SEC.
I think it might. You're Bernie Madoff of gambling.
I say some give it out early. I happen to see your Twitter, Dan.
You're jumping on the Badgers pretty early yourself. Yeah, I have a ticket.
What's that old saying? I have a ticket. In the Bible, Big T, what's that old saying? So, Joey.
I don't know. I don't know what he's talking about.
Yeah, that one. I would love to show you the ticket of the Badger bet.
I'm going to give you a heart attack. Joey, I'd love to show you the ticket of the Badger bet.
Joey, I'd love to show you the ticket of the Badgers minus 27 against Buffalo week one if you would show me USC minus six and a half. All right, I told you, show me yours, I'll show you mine.
I'd love to come down there and maybe stay in the studio and talk to y'all fellas. Thank you very much for having me.
Oh, Joey, you're done? Okay. Joey, you never invite yourself on another man's podcast.
You know that. Yeah, you know, that friend I know up there with that big phone, he, you know, you would think he'd get maybe a little sniff apart in my tape studio, but nothing for that boy.
So, yeah, I know you never invite yourself on the brother podcast. That's how it rolls.
We're a pro friend for Shilla Podcast, and I've heard that you've said some bad stuff about him. I was a good friend.
Nope, nope friend. Nope.
Nope. Not a good friend.
Not a good friend. Joey, I mean, this was 10 minutes that you could have been hiding a gun for Nate Oates, so why don't you get back to work? Fair enough.
All right. That was Joey from Lexington.
Definitely from Lexington. That was the worst accent I think I've ever...
No, right off the bat, I was like... First, like, 20 seconds.
Mickey Mouse accent. Yeah.
Rick, who do we got? Got Okalona Jared up next. What is his name? Okalona Jared.
Okalona Jared. All right.
Jared, what's up? Sounds like a turnpike song. I wanted to talk about Little Brother, the card down the street, but Big D's got me fired up this morning.
So, Tennessee

has also only been to

one Elite Eight.

Is that true, Big T? And should have won that game.

We got screwed.

No, we easily

could have won that game. You are a loser, Big T.

Big T wouldn't

know that because he's only been a Vols fan

for like eight years now.

So that's crazy, too. Interesting.

Now, there are some people

that will point out

Thank you. know that because he's only been a Vols fan for like eight years now.
So that's crazy too.

Interesting.

Now, there are some people that will point out that there's a picture of Big T when he was about, it's hard to tell, I think he was six years old, but he looked like he was 14,

wearing a Georgia sweatshirt.

Now, Big T, I think, is that fake news or was that a real picture?

It's a real picture from when I was like four and didn't dress myself and lived in georgia i did i dressed myself when i was four i wish my four-year-old would dress himself i did uh jared what else you got look just a couple more facts here so kentucky's beaten kentucky leads the overall basketball series 159 to 78 but i know he didn't mention actually bandwagon fan um what else here oh tennessee hasn't won a meaningful football game since 98 so you probably have to get an almanac out really last time tennessee football game yeah define meaningful uh well that it meant something to anybody other than a tennessee fan okay okay that's fair that's fair definition they won the best game in college football last year against the number were they two or three whatever they were you guys ended up in the outback bowl and the citrus bowl i would argue that that wasn't the best game in college football last year he's talking about the game against Alabama Alabama lost two games

Okay

Tennessee did not go to the Outback Bowl

I think Alabama did

Okay

Alabama went to

Alabama played in the Sugar Bowl

Not sure where we're getting our facts from here

Jared these are good facts

Anything else?

Yeah I basically just wanted to say

What's the B stand for you bum?

Oh got him

Thank you. Jared, these are good facts.
Anything else? Yeah, I basically just wanted to say, what's the B stand for? You bum? Oh, got him. The B in what? Yeah, I don't even know what.
I don't know. I just got him.
He said bum. Was he calling Big B? Big B.
I kind of like that. You're Big B.
Well, he started with Big D. No, you're Big B.
No, you're Big B. No, that's good.
Big B. I want to see a Photoshop of Big T, but with bumblebee stripes on them.
Yeah. No, that works.
You kind of do look like the, what was it, Charlie the bumblebee from the tuna can? No clue what you're talking about. Yeah.
Yeah. Look it up.
What else we got, Rick? Okay, we got Thomas up next. Thomas, what's up? Hey there.
I called in because I got a bone to pick with Matt Jones, but I got a bigger one now with Big Bone. Okay.
Shocker. Wait, I want to hear the Matt Jones bone to pick first.
All right, well, I called in because I knew he wasn't here to defend himself, but whenever he goes on these trips with Shannon, Drew, and Ryan, he always takes the king bed, and he makes them sleep in other rooms, and he saves all his money. He makes $100,000 off free advertising for his restaurant and his wrestling and his Netflix show, and he can't spend a little bit on that to get those boys a good bed.
Is this true? Is this true that he doesn't allow Drew to sleep in a full-size bed? They should draw straws or something. Does he sleep on the little daybed bench at the foot of Matt Jones' bed? Is that what you're saying? I mean, it's a successful radio show.
You think they get hotel rooms, but he cheaps out on these Airbnbs with one king bed and everyone else shares a room and then he has to drive the whole time and pick the music and everyone has to stay awake while he's driving even though he doesn't let anybody else drive. Everyone has to stay awake? Is that a rule? He's always talking about, like, if I'm driving, someone has to stay awake with me to talk to me.
But he takes them on these long road trips across the country. Like, they're in the car, like, seven, eight hours a day.
Like, I'm going to sleep if I'm in a car that long. No, I mean, in Matt Jones's defense, he might be using points on those hotel rooms.
He flies a lot. I know he travels to Little St.
James Island, right? That's one of his frequent destinations. So he probably has those miles banked up so he gets the king bed.
Do you think, I mean, how much bigger is Matt than everybody else? He drives everywhere. He's not flying with them.
Wait, Rick, have you ever gone on a trip with Matt Jones? Has he made you sleep in the dog bed?

No, I've never been on a trip with Matt.

Is that because he'd make you sleep in the dog bed?

Probably.

Does he leave out fresh water for Drew?

That's my big question.

If not, that's inhumane.

Does he have a doggy door so he can use the bathroom?

Okay, good answer.

What's your gripe with Big Bump?

I'm going to go ahead and get it. so he can use the bathroom.
Okay, good answer. What's your gripe with Big Bump? Well, he's a Tennessee fan, and they don't realize they're just Nebraska fans who just don't know it yet.
They live vicariously through these stories of the 90s when they were so great, but they haven't done anything. Their biggest claim to fame is beating their rival last year on a last-second kick at home.
If they play that game in Tuscaloosa, they lose by 30. And Alabama didn't even make the playoff last year.
It's like their most down year ever. And that's their biggest claim to fame since the great pumpkin left their state.
All right, a couple things, Thomas. If your grandma had balls, she'd be your grandpa, but she doesn't, so she ain't.
Secondly, well, gender is fluid. Matt Jones taught us that.
That's fair enough. Yeah, you can be whatever you want.
You sure don't have a lot of accomplishments. Okay, well, when's the last time Nebraska was number one in the country, Tom? Oh, this is loser talk again.
I don't care who's number one in the middle of the season. Yeah, that's loser talk.
Okay, fine. I want to play a game with Thomas.
We're going to play Wheel of Fun Facts. Thomas, do you want to talk about how your arena that's also a mall is named for a racist or Billy Gillespie being a drunk? Hold on.
Rupp arena is awesome. No, we're doing wheel of fun facts.
I don't know if you know this big T. You're talking about what a bum program Tennessee football is since the 90s.
Are we talking? You want to talk about Tennessee football compared to Kentucky football? You haven't done anything since Peyton Manning left. Nothing.
This is a Kentucky fan speaking, correct? I'm going to back you up one thing, Thomas. Rubberine is beautiful.
I've seen a national championship. Are you even old enough to have seen a Tennessee national championship? We all know you haven't even seen Elite Eight.
No, sorry. I've seen both.
One Elite Eight, my bad. One big Elite Eight in your whole history.
Are you talking NIT Final Four or NCAA Final Four? A lot of women's. You know, the NIT used to be bigger than the National Championship.
People forget. People do forget that.
Back when your racist was coaching. By the way, Rupp Arena is beautiful.
I don't know if you know this, but they painted all of the duck work in the ceiling blue. Sick.
Last summer, two summers ago. Pretty nice touch.
That's cool. So you're wrong on that part.
No, I've been there. It's a beautiful mall and hotel.
Great hotel bar. What do you got against the malls? It's a great mall to play basketball in.
Matt Jones gets the best seat in the hotel mall. Yeah.
All right, Thomas. Thank you, Thomas.
Appreciate your call. Got Ron up next.

Ron.

What's up, Ron? Hey, fellas, can you hear me? Yes. We can hear you.
Good deal. Hey, I don't normally call in.
I get a little nervous on these talk shows. But, look, I just can't stand when Matt has you boys on.
Okay. It ruins the show the whole day.
I don't know who Big T is, but I think his name's more like Little Teet. Oh, good one.
Ron, what can we do to make it better for you? For me, I just can't stand the way you boys talk. And here's what I got to say about what Big T is.
Joe Milkman ain't been good since he was in high school. That was 10 years ago.
Damn. Your comment, Big T? Excuse me, a little T.
I'm destroyed. Wait, so, Ron, can we change what you...
They used to want him up in the Big Ten. Yeah.
Ron, can we change what we're talking about to make it better for you? We want to meet you halfway. Well, really, I don't know if it's y'all's fault.
I just really like listening to Matt Jones. That's fair.
Totally fair. Good guy.
Stepdad shows up. I just tune out.
But this big T guy, he drove me crazy today. Yeah.
Ron, would you like to maybe play Wheel of Fun Facts? Maybe that would help you feel better. I would not.
I would not. I am just happy that Levis is down there in Nashville and can show you boys what a real quarterback looks like finally.
Oh, okay. Last year, I think he would have had just fine of a job to show y'all what a real quarterback looks like.
But you caught us after we had faced two or three real SEC teams.

Oh, okay.

Is that why you lost 44-6 or couldn't have kept a little closer than 40?

We just come off two or three real SEC games.

They just come off.

I believe it was Tennessee's first SEC game after Alabama.

Ron, Ron, where are you calling from?

I'm from Milton, Kentucky. Okay, are you close to B-Spring? Have you heard us talking about B-Spring? I have heard.
I don't know much about B-Spring, but it sounds like a place I may like to visit once it gets cleaned up a bit. Yeah, that's true.
Actually, I wouldn't want to visit B-Spring after. I want to visit it right now.
Yeah, I want to smell that smell. Ron, what's the big thing that's going on in Milton, Kentucky or your area right now that we can dive into? I want to make this show.
I understand we are the stepdads. No one likes a stepdad.
You want your real dad, Matt Jones, but he's joining ISIS right now. So what can we do to help? Well, really the only thing going on here in Milton is the interstate runs through on the way to cincinnati uh we got madison across the river there in indianus but other than that there's really not a whole lot going on up here any controversies any any local news going on that we should be aware of fellas i don't even know if we have a local news station

i like yeah it's good ron you seem like a guy i want to have a beer with well i would love that i would love that anytime okay preferably i drink kentucky bourbon but i'll have you a beer if you need one all right you'll have us a beer i love it ron i feel like we've mended some fences here, Ron.

It's only one day a year.

Like I said,

I don't know if I mind you boys or not, but I can't stand it when Matt Jones leaves for his sixth or seventh vacation of the whole year. Yeah, he makes all his guys sleep in a dog bed.
Him and Hank have a lot in common. I don't know who Hank is

but I assume he takes 15-20

vacations. One minute.
You assumed correctly.

He nailed it. You picked that

up well. Alright, well Ron.

I just want to say one last thing to

Big T.

Ricky Barnes

only thing he's good for

is mopping up the floor

after the Kentucky Wildcats come and whip his butt. Why is he beating them more than they've beaten him then? And what about raising good Christian men? He's good at that.
You a Christian, Ron? Man, I am tonight. Well, Ron, thank you.

Appreciate your call.

We'll try to be better in the last half hour.

We lost Ron.

Yeah, we lost him.

I need Cargo Shorts guy.

What's his name?

I want to hang out with Ron.

Yeah, Ron's a good dude.

I respect anybody that calls us up and says, hey, I don't like you boys.

Yeah.

But I just want to let you know that.

Yeah, I appreciate that. At least he has the courage to call.

DJ. What's up, DJ? Oh, not much.
You know, everybody talks about basketball and football in Kentucky, but there's another big sport here, and that's chicken fighting. And I know you all appreciate a good cockfight more than anybody.
Yeah. Tell me about what's going on in the local cockfight team.
They keep busting all these people, fighting on them. You got all these people coming from other, flying in from these other countries, dropping money and then flying out.
So have you been to a cockfight in Kentucky? Yeah, I've been to a lot of them. I've been going since I was probably seven or eight.
How long does a cockfight last? Of Rick Pitino's in, probably not that long. It just depends on how quality of a bird it is.
Some of them could be maybe two or three minutes to two or three hours. I'm interested because I've never been to a cockfight.
When you're looking at the cocks beforehand, do you know what a good cock looks like? Yeah, you gotta see how they're acting when they're weighing them up and whenever they're uh preparing them you know if they got good energy you know that's always a good one to bet on so when you weigh in when you weigh in a cock do sometimes the the the cocks get bigger in between the weigh-in like some might be growers not, not necessarily showers on the scale? Yeah. Usually they weigh them up, and then whenever they take them back, before they fight them, they make sure they poop everything out to lose a little bit of weight, gain some speed.
Okay. Now, we're big sports guys.
We love debates. Is there a goat cock? Is there a cock that you think about? like you know you you'd be laying in bed at night you'd be like man that cock from whatever 10 years ago that was wish i could see that that was the cock well there's not really a specific one there's specific breeds you know some breeds are meaner than others some of them are are stronger some of them are faster just got to kind of breed them to where you get a fast one and a strong one.
Some of them, yeah, some of them are cut. Some of them are not cut yet.
What's the best breed of cock? Sometimes they trim them up, and sometimes they just let them go. Yeah, manscape.
What's the best breed of cock? Well, usually you like to go for the gray roosters.

Big Ben.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And they like to breed them with a lot of caught around head.

It's a red rooster.

Yep.

But.

My dog's got one of those.

I like this. Is there a greatest cock of all time, though? Big Cat was asking about the goat.
We want to know who the legendary cocks are out there. Well, there's not really necessarily a legendary one.
Once you've seen one, you've seen them all? Yeah, Lexington and Steel. Yeah.
What about the names? How do they name the cocks? They don't usually give them a name. Some people name them, but usually they name them if they're just going to breed them.
Those are the best kind, the breeders. It makes sense.
You don't want to get attached to a cock and then have it die. Yeah.
They usually only live probably maybe six or seven years now how do they train do they train on like a uh like a fake cock uh usually you spar them you know kind of like boxing you just let them go without any of the equipment on them so that way they can just it feels better without the equipment yeah Yeah, build up their endurance.

That way they get their training in before they actually get all strapped up.

What's the average bet like at a cockfight?

Are people out there giving odds, or is it just like money line?

Usually it's money line.

Depending on what kind of fight it is,

some of them people flying from the Philippines, they might land and might they might land and drop like 20 30 000 on one fight and then fly out so yeah do you can you tell what a cock is cut in a fight yeah usually they uh they cut the the comb off the head and off the sides of their head that's usually that's what a cut cock is okay Okay. That makes sense.
And what about this equipment? What equipment are cocks wearing? Is there like a ring or something they're putting on? There's a, well, there's either a, sometimes they put knives on them. They tie a knife to their foot.
Whoa. That doesn't sound fair.
That's awesome. You brought a knife to a cock fight.
That's incredible. Yeah.
And there's a long knife and a short knife. You got one that's probably about six or seven inches.
The other one's about three or four. Yeah.
If you got like a seven-inch cock, is that better, or would you rather have more girth on it? Well, the long ones usually, remember, quicker fights. If you got a good rooster They can usually cut one up Within probably 15-20 seconds Damn If they get a good hit Damn Well, DJ, we gotta come down and see some cocks Yeah? Yeah Yeah, we want the invite Yeah, I think we just made a plan It'll be a bukkakeake.
Yeah, they're all over the place. They're in the hills.
There's cock under every stone. Hollers, creaks.
You ever send pictures to your buddies? No. Yeah.
That's probably smart. That's very smart.
Keeping low digital footprint. Yeah, you don't want to make them jealous.
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
All right, well, DJ, thanks so much. Yeah, you don't want to give them that cock envy.
No, definitely not. We're going to take another break, but, DJ, we appreciate your call.
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Mount Rushmore. What do you know about Malik Cunningham? What about him? I mean, he was electric in college.
Why? Pat's wave, Bailey Zapp. Oh, Bailey Zapp.
He can't even pronounce his name. Bailey Zapp electric.
That was the nickname. You also traded the kicker too.
A lot of kicker trades or movement today. Yeah.
Well, Vrabel's doing the Vrabel thing because he hates kickers. He would prefer to never kick a field goal or an extra point if he didn't have to.
So he's just going to roll the dice and not have a kicker on the roster, I guess. I don't know.
We'll see. He'll probably pick somebody up.
But that man, I love him. Malik Cunningham, though, is electric.
He was electric at Louisville. I'm watching his highlights.
Oh, you are? Tell us what you think. Fast.
Yeah, he is fast. Sorry for your loss.
Bailey's happy. Yeah, crazy.
It seems like you always have that time when you completely submarine Mac Jones. It seems like they're kind of confidence.
They're satiating Mac Jones by cutting Bailey's app. Oh, you think it was one of those? I think it's one of those, we don't want everybody clamoring for the backup.

We'll get rid of him.

So now we have Malik Cunningham, who's literally electric.

Yeah.

But he's not Bailey Zappi.

He's not Bailey Zappi.

All right, Mount Rushmore.

Two left.

Standings.

That would make this the penultimate Mount Rushmore.

It would.

I've been waiting for like...

We know.

We know.

You can't help yourself. Standings.
Yes. Big Cat and PFT 31.
Jake and Billy 30. Hank and Max 27.
Six points on the board. Congrats, guys.
And now we talked about it at the beginning of the show. PFT, could you share that stat with us? Yeah, just an interesting stat that came across our desk.
And it's pertinent to Mount Rushmore season. Very pertinent.
Very pertinent to Max and Hank's team specifically. Max has scored four points in three Mount Rushmores when Hank was gone.
That's pretty good. That means, what, at least one win in a couple second places or maybe two wins? It's 1.33333333333333333 points per game.
If you do that all season, you won't be in the box. Definitely not in the box.
Yeah. That's almost averaging first place.
Now, when Hank has been around without Max, he's scored one point in four Mount Rushmores. Oh, no.
So that comes out to .25 points per game. Oh, no.
For Hank. So, Hank.
So, Max is five times better at Mount Rushmore than Max. I don't know.
You're the boss of him. Yeah, where has Max been? No, like I know he's gone this week, but what were the other ones I did without him? I don't know.
Whatever. Yeah, listen.
You guys did your thing. You rigged the election.
How? You knew I was not firing last week. And you had us do three in one night, which was a lot on a Sunday night after a long weekend and a vacation.
Wait. You pulled the wool over my eyes.
What do you mean a long weekend? Hold on. Let me go back.
How is Saturday at 12.01 a.m. to Sunday at 6 p.m.
a long weekend? You told Billy not to text Jake back so that memes could give him the picks. And they had probably their best week of the season without Billy.
Listen, I'm not even mad. I respect the move.
No, you're not mad. You guys did what you did.
And now you can throw these next two and guarantee that me and Max go in. So good jobs.
Congrats. It's not over.
Put it on quote card. Hank is not mad.
No, I respect it. It's one of those things where I should have been should have been i should have been more alert i should have been on top of it i was you know enjoying my summer relaxing not thinking about you guys pulling a move like this but it it was it was pulling a move like what you know what you did no i don't we did three last sunday you knew you knew i wasn't you we golfed on sunday and you you saw we saw at, and you're like, big cat, let's do three in one night.
We'll tell Billy not to text back. I'm just going to throw this out here.
It's fine. Maybe you shouldn't have gotten really high on the golf course on Sunday.
Like I said, I have no choice. I didn't bring it, but if someone passed it to me.
Can someone look up the calendar? Tell me what day of the week August 18th was. I said no to drugs, Hank.
August 18th was a Friday. Oh, interesting, august 18th was a friday oh interesting because august 18th was a friday you said at 1 42 p.m which is august 18th friday 1 42 p.m that's a work day okay uh i texted the group and i said sunday night we should do three rushmores makes tuesday and thursday, and that way Jake can make picks in person.
That is a full 48 hours plus of a heads up. When did we get the topics? Big Cat, what time did you text that? 142 p.m.
on Friday. I was on vacation, so technically I was off.
I wouldn't have even seen that until Saturday. You know why that's also interesting? That's a full 10 hours before the weekend even starts.
But I was off that

day. I was off.

So that didn't even come across my

radar till Saturday.

Interesting. Interesting.
Listen,

again, congratulations. You guys pulled it off.

I have accepted

that me and Max are going in. We're going to

make it fun. That's what everyone wanted.

This is the Hank and

Max show. It's what everyone wanted.
Breaking moose. and Mac show.
It's what everyone wanted. Breaking Moose.

Breaking Moose.

Give me a real moose.

I forgot a part.

Friday,

what did I say? August 18th,

1.42 p.m.

I thought that's what the Breaking Moose...

This is more important.

The Patriots just got Malik Cunningham, too.

Oh, no.

You literally just watched his highlights.

What the fuck?

So who's you getting fucking Brian Hoyer back in the mix?

Probably, yeah.

Damn, what a twist that was.

That was a great moment in podcasting history.

Thank you, Shane.

Hank watching it and just being like, yeah, this guy rules. Hank, comment on Malik Cunningham? You just fell in love with him.
Do we have one quarterback now? Malik Cunningham is the hot girl across the bar that Hank catches eyes with. Well, I was watching his highlights.
He went to Louisville. I'm like, oh, it's Lamar Jackson.
If I was a conspiracy theorist. Why would you compare him to Lamar Jackson? Because he was playing at Louisville.
I was watching Louisville highlights. I was watching a Louisville quarterback being electric.

Yeah, Lamar Jackson, same category.

If I'm going to put on my Florio hat real quick here, Big Cat, and I will,

Tom Brady back to the Patriots.

Ooh.

Fiction.

I'm down.

That's fan fiction I can get.

No, that's fan fiction.

I'm a, what do you call it?

Softcore porn or like written porn?

Erotica. Okay.
Patriots erotica, like I'm down. Yeah, fan fiction.
Yeah, but like erotica style. He writes fan fiction the opposite way.
He writes horror fan fiction. Okay.
Got it. So Tom Brady, we're first reporting here on Part of My Take.
Tom Brady has been linked to conversations coming back to New England Patriots this year. Per here.
Per us. It's this conversation.
Okay, so back to Mount Rushmore. We don't have any other quarterbacks on the roster.
Kaepernick. Yeah.
What about Kaepernick? Okay. Phil Rivers.
Big Ben. Some names.
What the? Favre. Hank, you're going to want to pay attention to this.
So back to the Mount Rushmore thing when you said it wasn't on your radar because you weren't working that day. When I texted Sunday night, we should do three Rushmores.
That way Jake can make the picks in person. That was 1.42 p.m.
on August 18th, which was at 1.43 p.m., Hank replied okay. That was AI.
He literally saw the text and replied. And then at 1.43 p.m.
Well, I was just on my case. I was going to push back.
Hold on. I just took a week off.
I'm not going to be like, that's too much, guys. At 1.43 p.m., you actually said one of the topics we were doing, and you got zero points in that topic.
Listen, it is what it is. I've accepted loss.
These facts have really hurt your case. You know, I guess you guys don't.
You know, you shaped this narrative well. You didn't want to keep up with the max second place sad that's over um what i look forward to my 24 hours in the box oh don't give up by the way we would i don't want to bring up no it's over you guys you guys well it would be over if we didn't get a penalty we would have already been cleared but we're gonna well it wouldn't be it'd be over for you guys yeah right right also we won the first we won the paintball thing we gave you i don't want to sit in a room for 24 hours I don't care what room it is Just one room A couch with football? For 24 hours non-stop? In what world is that possible though? They could figure it out There's no schedule That's what they should do Week 0 should be 24 hours of football College basketball used to do it I would love schedule makers Week 0 schedule makers get on it week zero 24 hours of football that's what i want okay so we are doing the mount rushmore of things we plan on doing eventually and so max and hank need at least what two points uh so they need a point if we win or if hank finishes last it's over it's over okay of those two scenarios.
So you need at least a point. They need to win at least one, too.
Yes. They need to win.
Yeah. They need one today, two Friday, or two today, one Friday.
Or they can win it outright with 2-2 and me and Billy going 0-0. So our magic number for avoiding the punishment is 1.
You guys are guaranteed a tiebreaker. Yeah, but to be free and clear, we just need one point in the next two Mount Rushmore's.
Or you just need Hank not to sweep the rest of the way. Yes.
Judging by Hank's past performances. Well, he didn't know that we were doing a Mount Rushmore today.
That's true. It snuck up on him.
Hank, you suggested the Mount Rushmore trilogies and then you only came up with three responses. I forgot that was also one.
That's not true. That is very true.
You had two of the three topics you knew beforehand. Oh, man.
Okay. Mount Rushmore, things we plan on doing eventually.
PFT, are we up first? Big Count and PFT, Jake and Billy, Hank and Max. All right.
Should we just go one-one? Yeah. Okay.
What? What's that face? Let's just end it. Okay, things we plan on doing eventually, getting jacked, getting super jacked.
I'm actually going to get jacked, though. Yeah, six-pack, the whole thing, just looking, just getting in, maybe putting, getting in the best shape of your life.
I'm going to have a Halloween six-pack. It's going to be incredible.
Getting in the best shape of your life? Yeah, getting in the best shape of your life. Going to go as the situation for Halloween this year.
It's going to be awesome. I am.
I have said this conversation to myself, internal monologue, no less than a thousand times in my life. It's usually really pops up on a Sunday night, but it will happen at any time where I'm just like, yeah, you know what? I'm going to get jacked.
You know what? I did this a couple of weeks ago. I decided I wasn't going to diet.
I wasn't going to try to lose weight. I was going to bulk.
I was going to get jacked up. In retrospect, that was just me being like, here's a free pass to eat whatever you want while working out the exact same amount.
The lengths that we go to try to trick ourselves into getting jacked. In my new house, I have a gym with a treadmill and a squat rack.
And I purposely put multiple TVs in there because I was like, oh, I'll watch the games and I'll get jacked. Yeah.
I've been in it once. Yeah.
I've got a Peloton. I've got those adjustable dumbbells that go up to like 100 pounds.
It's crazy. I have two gym memberships.
It's crazy. And I use half of one of them.
I'm going to get jacked, though. I'm going to get jacked.
I'm going to get jacked. This is going to work.
Hank is so, so broken right now as a man. Stand up for yourself, Hank.
Come on. No, I mean, I also agree.
I have 10 years straight of getting jacked plans. Yeah.
I've had a couple months. Let's just do it.
It's just that I've gotten good shape for two months. What if we just did this whole podcast? And then traveling.
You think we'd get more respect? For sure. Well, because I obviously struggle with if I got skinny, people would be like, oh, you're not funny.
But what if you- Yeah, the best shape of your life is actually round. Okay.
Hurt people hurt people.

It's true.

I think the fans would agree. You ever hear that saying?

I think the fans would agree.

Hurt people hurt people.

But if we all got super jacked.

Don't body shame.

I feel like we could almost reconfigure this podcast as a full life advice.

Maybe we all got jacked and we moved to the beach and just lived in solitude.

Bench, Preston, Swalrock in the studio. That's not a bad idea.
You know what I'm doing to get jacked? I'm spending a lot of time in the sauna. Yeah.
I'm a sauna guy now. So whatever Joe Rogan stats are on the sauna, I'm doing five degrees hotter.
I'm doing five minutes longer. We are going to have a squat rack in the new office, are we not? Yeah.
Okay. So let's get jacked.
Squat-tober. Dude, if we just do squat, that's the thing.
You can just do squats and get jacked yeah you can do it you can definitely all your testosterone my thing is like once i really get into the rhythm i have so much room to grow because some people it's like they get jacked and like you know you were jacked and then you got it it fell apart i've never even gotten jacked so that means that i'm better than you at I've pushed myself. But I can still climb a higher mountain.

That's a beast when I get CrossFit.

I kind of want to get injured on the first day.

Yeah, CrossFit's dumb.

Who's up?

I think it's Hank.

Same order every week.

All right, Mr. Positions, you've done a lot.

Yeah, so this one's pretty basic. Big Cotton PFT, you've already a lot.
Yeah, so this one's pretty basic.

Big Cotton PFT, you've already done this.

PFT recently, it's pretty simple.

Buying a house.

Oh, okay, that's a good one.

I think no matter what position you're in,

everyone plans on buying a house.

PFT, you just did that two months ago for the first time.

$22 million.

Yeah.

That's all you need.

Yeah, so not much to it, but plan on doing it eventually. I like it.
That's a good pick. That's a good pick.
Hank did it as well. You're not going to say anything about him? Was it a house? No.
I mean, it's a condo, but still, he bought it. He owns property.
He's a property owner. Congratulations on the condo.
Why are you staring me down like that? He's meme mugging me. No, I heard $22 million.
I was like, oh, he's rich. You listen to the pod? $75,000 an episode, bro.
You hand us the big big check my mortgage went up to 22 million dollars mysteriously you know what you should text billy that pft bought a 22 million dollar house and see if he blogs it yeah we should have bought michael jordan's house i think we can wait that one out and we might get it for free yeah uh okay good pick hank sad sad hank oh

learning fuck learn how to play learning how to play guitar okay why you have no enthusiasm and then skydiving okay good picks i would never I would never do that. I have skydove.
It is awesome. You should do it once.
No, you should do it once. No, I just thought something.
My hands are sweating right now. What? No, I'm lashing out.
It'd be a lash out. Yes, it's a lash out.
Permission to lash out? I was going to say. When PFT came to my apartment, apartment he stepped outside and was like and like went back inside because it was high yeah I didn't I had a panic attack on Hank's balcony Hank is in such a mood I told you it was a lash out that's not even a fun fact that's just it was a little bit funny the best part of his PFT is Hank's in such a lash out mood I didn't know when he said oh I was gonna say something i didn't know it was about you i thought he was gonna say yeah you sky dove once and now you're too fat oh that's true you could have gone both ways there why would you skydive why would you jump out of a great airplane it was fun it was very fun i really want to sky time adrenaline what i really want to do but it would take a lot more training, is I really want to get to a point where I can skydive on my own.

I think that's the ultimate rush.

That is insane.

I need that.

Man.

No, thank you.

All right, Jake.

Good picks, Hank.

Way to go.

Good job.

Yeah.

This one's a little bit more specific towards the demographic,

but homework on a football Sunday. Ooh.
Plan on doing it eventually. Doing it later? Yeah.
So that is the procrastination thing you said. I mean.
That's the thing. We actually would make picks that we believe in.
Jake is just, you are AI for Mount Rushmore. Yeah, you are AI.
You are AI Mount Rushmore. You don't have homework, dude.
What are you talking about?

It's things you plan on doing eventually.

That's not your pick. You don't have homework.

No, that's not even...

Well, I'll give Jacob Bale out here.

It's something that he used to plan on doing later.

But that's not the topic.

Like, I couldn't pick...

I didn't realize it has to be things...

Exactly.

I know, your AI.

All your picks last week, not your picks.

It's fine.

Me and PFC couldn't say buy a house.

We bought a house. Right.
Okay. I picks last week, not your picks.
It's fine. Me and PFC couldn't say buy a house.

We bought a house.

Right.

Okay.

I didn't realize it was first person.

Correct.

All summer.

Generic.

Yeah.

You're doing Panda Bear.

He's AI.

I mean, the Taco Bell draft was AI.

Taco Bell draft.

Trilogy's draft.

Never had it.

Everything.

Pretty much 90% of your picks.

AI. I like this.
Now you're getting the lash out love it yeah hank is spraying the whole room no one is safe right now all right i'll skip it i mean homework doesn't know you picked it no i'm gonna allow it for for jake you graciously allowed us to take air bud that's true that was very nice of him yeah okay go that oh it's our turn all right uh i think the number two on our list is pretty good or our yeah we got okay we'll do number two and then number 10 what about no no it's time we can't do for the same reason no i haven't done them yet but you've done them before yeah but that's the thing like i don't care if you guys pick something that you've done before personally what about seven okay yeah we probably get that last though okay you're right you're right you're right you're right right this is good talking this is good talking we're talking it out um all right do two and then we'll we'll think get a tattoo yep i'm gonna get a tattoo eventually i will i'm gonna get a tattoo i'm gonna get a plaid half sleeve it's gonna be sick nobody's ever had a plaid tattoo before i'll be the first and it's gonna be awesome i'm totally gonna get a tattoo gonna get a tattoo um okay yeah we're definitely eventually gonna get a tattoo for sure uh imagine if i was jacked with a half sleeve tattoo combo would be sick so sick. All right, you want to do 10, but that's going to put us in a gray area where we get Hank.
It's over. It doesn't matter.
No, because I can justify. I can justify 10.
Okay, then you can do it. Taxes.
I'm going to eventually do it. Taxes.
Eventually going to do taxes. That's the same category as me.
No, wrong, Jake. Wrong, Jake, because I got an extension to October 15th.
I haven't done my taxes yet. I have not done my taxes yet.
You've done them before. I'm eventually going to do these taxes.
I'm going to eventually do my one today or this year. So what if I quit this podcast and go to law school? Yes, applies.
Then that would count. Yeah, great.
That's a hypothetical. Then I'm going to have homework.
You're living in dream world. I'm living in reality.
We're talking about things we're eventually going to do this year. I still have to do my taxes, and I'm going to do them.
Just not now. I'm going to do mine as well.
All right. Don't give me that smirk, Jake.
I hate that. I just don't have homework.
I'm never going to have homework again in my life. I mean, you never know.
No, Jake. I'm never going to have homework again in my life.
Maybe me. You're going to have homework again? Who knows? Life's crazy.
Life is crazy. But you're saying you plan on it.
You're going to law school?

What?

It might not happen.

You said you planned on having homework.

I told you guys, I'm gladly happy to replace.

No, it's fine.

You lost the plot a long time ago.

Okay.

Jake, your pick.

We're going to go with having kids.

Okay. All right.
Good pick. There you go.
Get around to it. Yes go with having kids.
Okay.

All right.

Yeah.

Pick.

There you go.

Get around to it.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yes.

Eventually.

Was that Billy's pick as well?

No.

Okay.

Billy not going to have kids.

Not going to have sex.

Okay.

Uh, Hank.

We'll go with Max's.

I will do two and two.

Let him cook.

Uh, this is sad.

Decorating my apartment.

Okay.

Yeah. I feel like that's a good pick because you do, like, your apartment always stays in that, like, half.
Like, hey, sometimes, eventually I'm going to do something with this. You know what I love, though? I love the one box that you never unpacked, and it stays stashed in your apartment until you move out again.
Yes. You're like, I'm going to use all this stuff eventually.
And then you're like, well, I could just throw this away because I haven't used it in two years. Yes.
You're like, no, at like no at the next place i'm going to use this yes i moved four times in the past four years and and there was multiple times where i i didn't touch the box and just but i still moved it yeah like it's like this box has been there since i packed it up you never brought it to my other apartment and then i looked at it i was like well i'll just bring it to my next one and then i was like well and then i finally got rid of it i think my last year in New York. But there was a lot of that.
I definitely gave up my last year in New York. I was like, you know what? I'm going to move to Chicago in 12 months.
I don't really need to put away my clean clothes. Yeah.
No, I'm just going to put them right back in a box later. My last apartment, because I moved, I lived there for a year, knew we were moving, and there was times where I was like, this looks weird because it's not decorated at all but also what is the point yes yes uh and then lastly becoming a millionaire oh okay okay let's go Hank yeah wait that was Max good pick Max good picks that's never gonna happen for Max never know eventually you Hank you're there corporate Hank's going to get there.
I hope so. Yeah.
Okay, Jake. Jake's going to be like, I don't know.
Picking out my Halloween costume. Go for it, Jake.
You got this. Yeah.
I'm rattled. Learning how to ride a bike.
Yeah, that's specific to a demographic.

Our last pick is going to be retiring.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, no, this is a good.

That's a good pick.

Eventually, I want to retire.

I don't know if I ever will, but I want to.

Be nice.

If I just retired, I would just end up doing this exact same thing. Yeah.

I hope that there's maybe like a half retirement that we could do. AI does Monday and Wednesday.
We do Friday. We just do the golf videos.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That would be good retirement.
That would be a great retirement. Holy shit.
We just do golf and gambling live streams. You think if Hank retired and was just doing golf videos all the time, he would start working as his escape from work?

Yeah.

Yeah.

He would take a vacation to podcast camp.

Yeah.

No.

Yeah.

Okay.

Should we go with that one, though? Yeah, let's do it.

Yeah.

I mean, eventually, I think we all would like to do this.

Two girls at once.

Let's go. Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah. I mean, eventually, I think we all would like to do this.

Two girls at once.

It'd be nice.

It would be nice eventually.

Check it off the list.

What?

You don't want to do two girls at once? That's an AI pick.

That's not an AI pick.

I came from my brain.

Two girls at once rule.

But you're not planning on doing that?

Eventually, maybe.

I don't know.

It would be a lot of pressure.

It would be a ton of pressure.

I would completely fold under pressure.

Oh, my God.

I'd just start telling jokes.

I would love to do two girls at once.

She'd be like, please leave.

Yeah, two girls at once for 35 seconds.

It would be sick.

Everybody gets one stroke.

I would make a Rick Pitino joke, and they'd kick me out of the orgy.

Hank, you don't want to do two girls at once? course I do Mr. Positions does He'd fucking do positions on everyone That was an awesome duh joke Duh I feel bad about my second pick Just give her a back shot Gotcha It'd be great if Max Max gets into an orgy and the two girls are like we want you to titty fuck us he's like I'm out I'm out I don't want to do this anymore gotcha oh man all right uh we only have one Mount Rushmore left guys one more Rushmore left isn't that sad it's been such an awesome time Just hanging out with you guys Hank what if you win this And Jake finishes last So you're gonna have some life Then it all comes down to Friday Yeah Do you realize that? If you win this No You guys can rig it What? I'm gonna say You guys can purposely lose They're not gonna throw it Jake Who the fuck do you think you're working with? They're not gonna throw it Given the circumstances No I'm going to say...
You guys can purposely lose. They're not going to throw it.
Jake, who the fuck do you think you're working with? They're not going to throw it given the circumstances. Hank, I'm giving you my word.
Without a shot. Doesn't matter.
We're not going to throw it. You understand that I will never believe you saying that ever again.
Why? Because you have and you've already... Again, we've talked about this at length.
This whole segment has been completely ruined since you guys threw pizza toppings. All I'm going to say is for the good of the show toppings it would be great if hank had some life going into the last game and on friday exactly because you're gonna throw it like i have my my win probability is zero i'm not getting my hopes up it doesn't matter it's over b max we're in the box friday we should do Mount Rushmore pizza toppings.
Real? Yes. Why not, Hank?

Let's... It doesn't matter.
It's over. Me and Max are in the box.
Friday, we should do Mount Rushmore pizza toppings.

Real?

Yes.

Why not, Hank?

Let's bring the pieces back together.

Let's do a real Mount Rushmore pizza topping.

I do like olives.

Yeah, I love double olives. Mm-hmm.

I can't believe you guys didn't take pepperoni.

Oh, shit.

I think I picked oregano. I think our guys did a recap mashup of that recently, and it went viral again.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, man. Hank, will you do pizza toppings? Pizza toppings? No.
For real? Not viral. I thought it did.
Hank, you're being a real bitch right now. It's three days.
What is this lying? Oh, my God. Again, if I lie, kill me.
Well, you did. You did lie yesterday.
I did lie earlier, yeah. You lied yesterday.
I'm dead, yeah. So, yeah, you should be dead.
Yeah. Will you do pizza toppings on Friday with us? Whatever he wants, your show.
I mean, come on. We've already done it.
Let's do water. We have done that.
You want to do water? Thrice. Have we done it three times already? Memes.
Memes, what were you about to say? No, the video did do pretty well. Oh, wow, Hank.
Viral, though? Vi. Aaron Donald, DK Metcalf? Outside the part of my take universe.
Aaron Donald, DK Metcalf. Yeah, Mac said he was getting some texts of people being like, is this serious? Love it.
Why don't we do two guys on chicks real quick? Because it's been a long show. We'll wrap up.
Hey, fellas, my boyfriend is six. I forgot he was reading.
We can do honorable mention. No, honorable mentions.
Yes, sorry. Honorable mentions.
All right. Have a winning March Madness.
I'm going to eventually do that. Perfect bracket.
Yep. Safari in Africa.
I want to go to this Kentucky Derby. Ireland.
Ireland. You haven't done the Kentucky Derby yet? I've done pretty much every other big horse race.
I'm going to quit nicotine. Yep.
I'm going to do it. Buy a boat.
Scuba dive. I'd love to scuba dive.
I'm going to learn the rules of craps. Yeah.
Well, buying a boat is opposite of your pick a few weeks ago. Yeah, I know, but I eventually probably will be.
We can acknowledge that it's a waste of money. When I buy it, I'll be like, this is a waste of money.
Max would start a podcast, which. Whoa.
Oh, I would love to hear that. Max.
Competition. Philly specials.
We should green light that. Yeah.
Learn how to fix a car. But we get to name the podcast.
Yeah. Loser talk.
Second place. Max with Max Delenti uh okay uh actually max should do a podcast but he should do a solo podcast yeah i would love to hear that max's thoughts unfiltered to the max uh okay go ahead my boyfriend has six drafts over labor day weekend my parents invite us to their beach house for the long weekend and i'm excited to see them My boyfriend has two drafts each night and says he has to take them, but that I can go have fun with my parents.
Can I be annoyed? Also, his team name is Kareem Pye, and we're 34 years old. Do fantasy team names like that ever end? Thanks, guys.
Make sure you work until midnight Friday, Hank. This is just kind of, it's guy season.
Yeah, you can't get way of the drafts I'd say I'd say four drafts over the course of two days is a lot though I also think unless the draft is in person which is a totally different thing which is great if you can get everyone in person that's awesome I think weekday drafts are better just because it gives you a little something to look forward to like on a Tuesday night like I know, I know my draft. I have a draft Wednesday night.
I have a draft next Tuesday night. It's kind of fun, like something extra.
Well, it's great if you're at work and you spend all day at work preparing for your draft that night. Right.
So if these are in person, I understand it. You can't get mad.
If he's doing internet drafts on a Friday and Saturday, that's a little much. You can't schedule for Labor Day weekend.
You also got to figure out what the... I'd be cheating.
That's

the problem. He's probably in a group...
He might be cheating on

you. He's in a draft with losers

that don't have

Labor Day plans. Yeah.

You got to really drill down and find out

which friend group is in which draft

because I bet one of these is with

internet strangers that he doesn't even know.

This also, I mean, I am that loser

now that I'm thinking about it because

Thank you. because I bet one of these is with, like, internet strangers that he doesn't even know.
This also, I mean, I am that loser now that I'm thinking about it because I was supposed to go to a lake house on Saturday and I was like, college football. It's a lot of games.
I want to be sitting in my basement. My husband asked me to pick a horse right before he placed a bet.
I told him to put $10 on a horse, and five minutes later, he won $100 on on my pick when i told him he needs to split the winnings with me he laughed and said no he insists i would not have given him half if he lost don't you agree i deserve some compensation as his gambling guru he brings up a good point you he she wouldn't have given him money if he lost so that doesn't this actually This actually reminds me of when we did an ad deal, early Barstool, Bellator, and we had to live tweet the event. And I, of course, bet every single fight, lost every fight.
Last fight of the night, I went like double or nothing on a favorite, like minus like 400. Lost that.
$10,000. And I said to Dave, hey, I wouldn't have bet this if we didn't have to do this ad deal.
He's like, okay. But if you had won, would you have split the money with Barstool? I was like, got me there.
So you're right. You should offer to pay him $5.
Yeah. Be like, I'll pay for my half of the bet.
And then he gives you half of the winnings 50 bucks let's be honest when you win a bet especially at a horse race that hundred dollars is not one money because you're gonna lose it on the next race it's also yeah you're just recouping your losses right you're gonna lose like maybe if maybe if it was the end of the day you could make the argument that you get 50 bucks but you gotta let him play out the whole card i think you got to go back and see how much money he lost on the previous races and then split those losses with him in exchange for the 50 share that you want on this bet i don't think the husband wants that yeah probably not probably not you don't start digging back into the into the archives yeah that's a good point being phil mickelson real quick. You don't want that.
You don't want that.

That is the, whenever I come home from a weekend at the horse track,

and it's like there's a couple times I've come home with a big fat stack,

and I'm just like, look at this.

He's like, oh, where's my half?

He's like, well, overall, lifetime.

If you weren't with me in my losses, you're not with me in my wins.

Hank, can you make a promise to the AWLs?

No. That on Thursday night's show, you're going to have a better hey can you make a promise to the awls no that on thursday night show you're gonna have a better a positive attitude try harder i just want a positive attitude i'm so positive and try not to be in this box it you know you guys rigged it how do we rig it you can throw thursday and it's over it doesn't matter we're not I'm giving you my word.
We're not going to throw Thursday. I mean, you know what? I'm going to vote Hank tomorrow.
Well, that's also Rick. There's a chance that we might have to compete hard on.
If you win this Mount Rushmore. And they finish last twice.
It's a tie. We'll see.
Okay. All right.
Numbers. 18.
Three. 69.
Eight. Memes, you ever gotten it? No.
One. You took three from memes? He's been doing it.
It's awesome. It's the only one that hasn't been picked.
All right. I want to be on the right side of history.
They've all picked and picked. Three? Yeah.
Then where the fuck is it? Remember, 26 was picked and I went crazy? Yeah. But I thought that was because three was gone.
Three was picked before it was missing. Oh, then.
Three was picked in like June. 17.
Hey, that's your number. These don't matter either.
Yeah, but people still like it. I don't think so.
Yeah, they do. Should we get the original one shipped? Sure.
Until New Office? Yeah, why not? I would love to see Billy try to pack that up and ship it responsibly.

I was on the call.

I called one of the operations people who was helping with the new studio and the old studio.

And as I called her, she's like, hey, I'm in your studio arguing with Billy about how he didn't trash it.

And he was in the background.

He's like, I didn't trash it.

This is their stuff.

No, he specifically was everyone else. That's the Billy I didn't trash it.
This is their stuff. No, he specifically, it was everyone else.

That's the Billy update for today.

It was funny.

Oh, man.

Okay, great show, boys.

Friday, I think we're going to do a fantasy football preview.

And you know who that means.

So get excited.

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Love you guys.

Hank, animal fact.

Hank is the saddest

Animal in the animal kingdom

Oh mother I'm talking away. I don't know what to say.
I'll say it anyway. Today's my turn.
But the fighting game is going to hold me. Take me.
Take me. I need what you say I want to say it's But I need some

Little way

Slowly learning Take on me. I'm just a little insane.
I want to say it's but I need some little way.

Slowly learning life is okay.

Take on me.

Take on me.

I'll be gone.

I'll be gone. Thank you.
Just play that word, breathe away You're all the things I've got to remember Take me home

Take me home

Take me home

Take me home

Take me home

Take me.