CFB Preview With Tom Fornelli, Best Of Kentucky Sports Radio Callers, NFL Cut Day + Mt Rushmore Of Things We’ll Eventually Do

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have our good friend Tom Ferneli in studio talking college football, getting us ready for the college football season, getting us ready for week one.

Speaker 1 He releases a mega lock, almost a game of the year for week one on Saturday.

Speaker 1 We also hosted Kentucky Sports Radio on Tuesday, one of our favorite days of the year. We have the best of that, some great calls.

Speaker 1 I never thought that we would be in a 10-minute conversation about cock fighting. Oh, I did.
But we did. We were there.
So great calls from the Kentucky Sports Radio listeners.

Speaker 1 Shout out Matt Jones for having us guest host again. Mount Rushmore season.
Final two Mount Rushmores coming up. Hank and Max need to make a move.

Speaker 1 We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of things that we'll do eventually.

Speaker 4 Big Cat, I saw a stat come across my desk.

Speaker 1 Oh, let's wait because I don't want people to miss that stat. Let's wait till we do the Mount Rushmore because sometimes people skip the start of the show.
We need to.

Speaker 4 I'll say the stat.

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Speaker 3 And then we'll take it higher.

Speaker 3 Oh, we're gonna rock it down to Elite Trick IV. It's part of my take.

Speaker 1 There's another part of sports.

Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Wednesday, August 30th, and unfortunately, guys, it's cut day.
Yeah, it's NFL. It's a cut day.
Tough day.

Speaker 4 A lot of practice squad stashing out there.

Speaker 4 You can always convince yourself that a high, like a first, second, third-round pick that gets cut, you want to pick that guy up, bring him in, see if you can reclaim him.

Speaker 4 He flashed a lot of reclamation projects going on out there. Jason Peterman got cut by the bears.
That's sad to see, very, very sad.

Speaker 1 He'll be fine, though, as soon as John Gruden gets another job.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's uh, he's he put up one of the most legendary stat lines in NFL history. We'll always have a soft spot for old Nadi P.

Speaker 1 I hope he finds a place. We also have the big news, so we're taping this at 2:30 on Tuesday.
We're getting ourselves ready for NFL season.

Speaker 1 We know the hours that come with it, the late hours, so we're taping it a little early in the afternoon. Do we think by the end of this show, Jonathan Taylor will be a Miami Dolphin?

Speaker 4 Ooh, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 So here's just to set the stage. The Colts have a 4 p.m.
deadline.

Speaker 1 They have to decide at 4 p.m. whether he's going to be on the pup list and miss the first four games or possibly trade him.
The Dolphins have been making some funny little moves.

Speaker 1 They traded an offensive lineman to the Bears. They cut Miles Gaskin.
They freed up almost exactly the amount of cap space they need to sign Jonathan Taylor. Will Jonathan Taylor be a dolphin?

Speaker 4 It'll be interesting if he becomes a dolphin and then struggles with a dolphin. Will Jim Ursa then pay to fly him across the country?

Speaker 1 You can fly a dolphin for sure. Yes.
Easy. Easy.
He's so easy. No problem.

Speaker 4 Dolphin could sit coach. Yes.

Speaker 1 Dolphin could do Southwest picking and they could be in like the seas.

Speaker 4 Spirit Airlines. You see, it's halfway filled with dolphins the entire time.

Speaker 1 I hope Jonathan Taylor goes to the Dolphins. And I will say this right now.

Speaker 1 If Jonathan Taylor goes to the Dolphins, it will be very hard for me not to bet on the Dolphins every week because in a Dude off, they would probably be leading the league.

Speaker 4 So I'll say if he goes to the Dolphins, it is the AFC Beast. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That is a gauntlet. That's the group of death.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's, I mean, Dudoff, Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 4 Okay, you want to do a Dude Off? Tua. Jalen Waddle.

Speaker 1 Tyree Kill.

Speaker 4 Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 Bradley Chubb. Alec Ingold.
Jalen Ramsey when he comes back from injury.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 It's a pretty good dudes.

Speaker 4 That's a lot of dudes.

Speaker 1 A lot of dudes. I'm missing out on somebody.
Kaseki's no longer on the Dolphins, which we will do on Friday.

Speaker 1 Jake will have a PowerPoint to get everyone ready for the NFL.

Speaker 6 A few rule changes.

Speaker 1 Yep, a few rule changes. Football math with Hank.

Speaker 6 And then same face with new places.

Speaker 1 Same face with new places. It's going to be a great Friday show.
You have to help me with that, Jake. The football math? No, football math is just a quiz I'm going to give you.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank, you just got to bring your brain. It's your first time ever.

Speaker 4 You're a corporate guy now. Have you learned how to to put together a deck?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, yeah.
You're a PowerPoint guy? Hell yeah. Let me see one of your decks.

Speaker 4 Let me see your deck.

Speaker 1 Let's see it. Let's see.
Let's whip out your deck. Oh, you want to see the Jersey Jerry one?

Speaker 4 You have a picture of Jersey Jerry.

Speaker 1 You're ghost hunting? Yeah, let's see it.

Speaker 4 Whip out the deck.

Speaker 1 Wow. Our boy's all grown up.
But yeah, cut down.

Speaker 6 That's your title page.

Speaker 1 That's your title page. That's a good title page, too.
2023, pardon my take, NFL preseason presentation. We got to figure out how to do it so that we can get it on the YouTube for the people at home.

Speaker 1 Please subscribe to the YouTube, by the way. We need to get to 500.
We need to get to half a milli by

Speaker 1 the end of football season. We need to get.

Speaker 1 Memes, I haven't even talked to memes about this, and I was just trying to conceptualize in my head. Probably shouldn't be doing it live on the pod, but

Speaker 1 we're close to a million on Instagram and TikTok and kind of Twitter. What if there was a world where we could get them all at the same time? Oh, the triple combo.
The triple crown.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And like somehow, you know, set it up where. If we can do it, then we'll give back.
The world explodes. Oh, we could give back.
We could give back.

Speaker 1 But only if we get, you know, if we can somehow cross, if we can get a million in the same day.

Speaker 4 I would match if we gave back.

Speaker 1 If we got a million in the same day, Hank, would you be willing to play golf with three AWLs? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 4 You just described Hank's entire story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so we got something. Yeah, I'll do the same thing.
Okay, so you match. Do you match matching?

Speaker 1 I will not match. I'll double.
I'll double. I'll do it twice.
I will not match that. I'll pay for a round of golf for four AWLs.
How about that? They can pick the course.

Speaker 1 Most expensive course in the world. I don't even know what it is.

Speaker 4 Pebble Beach is up there. Pebble Beach is probably up there.

Speaker 1 Masters.

Speaker 1 I have to join Augusta.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so let's get all those. Let's do it.
Let's bump it. I sent the deck.
You sent the deck. This is the deck.

Speaker 1 Ghost hunting with Big Cat and Jersey Jerry. There's only one page.
Yeah, it's a slot. I mean, it's a.
That's not a presentation. It's a one page.
I presented. This is really nice.
Thank you, Jake.

Speaker 1 Very good. Okay.

Speaker 1 When Jersey Jerry decided to move to Chicago, he didn't account for extra people that would be in his house, or should we say ghosts, after experiencing paranormal question mark activities?

Speaker 1 Jersey Jerry had to make some moves. Who's he going to call? Big Cat.
I like the bar, too. Wait, but why am I italicized?

Speaker 1 Why am I italicized? Who's he going to call?

Speaker 6 Big Cat should be bolded. That's my only criticism.

Speaker 1 Did you write this yourself? I didn't ask for criticism.

Speaker 3 You didn't write this.

Speaker 4 There should be a question mark after the word ghost.

Speaker 1 He didn't ask for criticism.

Speaker 4 Did you proofread this?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hank, Hank, did you write this yourself?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Joins Big Cat as he hires a ghost hunter to accompany him to Jersey Jerry's house and connect with the guests from the afterlife.

Speaker 1 Over the course of two episodes, Big Cat and Jersey Jerry will bring their audience along for the ride while they try to navigate a scary situation just in time for spooky season.

Speaker 1 Ooh, we should, maybe we, maybe we do like a series called Spooktober.

Speaker 4 Oh, I like that. We can do something Halloween for Sam Howe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 4 That's good. They play on Halloween? I have to put a bet in right now.

Speaker 1 Oh, Halloween.

Speaker 1 All right, so what else we got? We got Ronald DaCunha almost getting accosted at the Rockies.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he kind of did get accosted a little bit. Bad luck for Colorado Security.
Yep. It was tough.
They had two guys run out of the field.

Speaker 4 One of the security guards went up, tried to tackle the dude that was hugging Ronald DaCunha, fell on the ground. Then the second guy came up.

Speaker 4 shoved Ronald DaCunha, who got tabletopped over the security guy.

Speaker 4 When I first saw the picture, I thought that these two guys went on the field just to do a tabletop, which plays on the elementary school playground, one of the all-time moves, tabletopping your buddy,

Speaker 4 to an all-star outfit.

Speaker 1 Ooh, ranked the moves real quick.

Speaker 4 The flying burrito was pretty good where you just

Speaker 4 jumped sideways into him.

Speaker 1 I go number three, tabletop. Number two, pull out the chair.

Speaker 4 Number one, pantsing.

Speaker 1 Pantsing with balls flapping out. Yeah.
If you can get the full pants

Speaker 1 where

Speaker 1 the underwear goes to, the hardest I'll ever laugh.

Speaker 4 We didn't mention wedgie. I feel like wedgie, that was a big thing in the 80s.
Yeah. And it was a huge thing on sitcoms throughout the 90s.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Steve Urkel got wedgied.

Speaker 4 All the time. Everybody got wedgied.
It was like, oh, we don't have a scene to write in this elementary school sitcom. Wedgie.

Speaker 1 Stuff in a locker. Or a swirly.

Speaker 4 Swirly? Yeah, but that doesn't really happen so much in my experience.

Speaker 1 Like, where's a lovable loser? And then he's hanging up

Speaker 4 by a wedgie. From a tree.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, thanks for getting me down, guys.

Speaker 6 I got Foley pants in high school.

Speaker 1 With boxers?

Speaker 6 Yeah, pick up basketball game with my friends. So there's a ton of my friends.

Speaker 4 And your dick flopped out?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, that was like so funny.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Were you having a good day or a bad day?

Speaker 6 I don't remember how I was shooting that day, but it was just in the middle.

Speaker 1 It was like

Speaker 1 who did it to you? Were you friends with Jesse?

Speaker 4 Were you embarrassed? We were still friends? Yeah, we're still friends. Were you embarrassed at the time?

Speaker 6 I just, I've never reacted quicker.

Speaker 4 Yeah, my dream is to get pants when, for whatever reason, I'm just hanging nice and low. And then

Speaker 1 a good visual.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's what I was referring to with Jake. He took it as, how is his basketball performance? No.
If I'm having a good dick moment and I get pants, I am going to be so happy.

Speaker 1 Very hard to do, though, when you're playing sports.

Speaker 1 You get the sports dick where your dick ends up like a tic-tac because your body needs the blood in other parts of your, like, my heart is like, hey, we need more blood. Where can we get it from?

Speaker 1 Oh, your tiny little dick.

Speaker 4 It gets resorbed into your body.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
So I think I did that. I think I might have pants Brandon Walker full dick out.
It's a little bit less funny when it's an adult because then it's like, oh, workplace harassment.

Speaker 4 I would say in terms of funny rankings, it would go a kid pantsing an adult, number one. Yeah.
Very funny.

Speaker 4 A kid pantsing another kid, also very funny. Adult pantsing an adult, not funny.
An adult pantsing a kid, very not funny. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Very, very not funny. And this all started because we were talking about Hank's wonderful deck.

Speaker 4 He's got a great deck. Yeah.
He's having a great deck day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah. So we had, yeah, Cunha, who was very chill about it afterwards.
Shout out Ronald Decunha. Having an unbelievable year.
Seems like the best guy ever. He's like, yeah, they wanted a picture.

Speaker 1 I didn't really know what to do.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's not the first time that two guys from the stands have just run down and accosted a Braves outfielder.

Speaker 4 The famous Hank Aaron moment. He's running around the bases after breaking Babe Bruth's record.
Stealing. I found out today from Big T that those guys almost got shot.
They almost got assassinated.

Speaker 4 Oh, wow. Because there were snipers in the crowd.
Hank Aaron was getting all sorts of death threats. So they thought those two guys were threats.
They didn't pull the trigger.

Speaker 4 They just wanted to pat him on the back. That would have been number one sports highlight of all time.
Yeah, that would have.

Speaker 1 Darren Revelle would have been tweeting it every day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 4K. Watch these guys' brains get blown out.
We also had the Ryder Cup announced. People are mad.

Speaker 4 Not me. We have a South African on the team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we have.

Speaker 1 So the Ryder Cup is Scotty Scheffler, Wyndham Clark, Xander Shauffley, Max Homo, Patrick Clantley, and Brian Harmon are the top six, which was very funny when I think the PGA announced the captains' picks, and everyone's like, Where's Scotty?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, well, he made the team. And then the captains' picks were Brooks, Morikawa, Sam Burns, Jordan Speet, Justin Thomas, and Ricky Fowler.
People are mad about JT.

Speaker 1 They're mad. They're calling it a boys' club.
He's got the resume. Here's the thing: JT is a killer in international play.
That's a fact, Hank.

Speaker 1 When he's good.

Speaker 1 He has not been playing good. Career international play records, Ryder Cup and President's Cup.
Cam Young, 1-2-1. Keegan Bradley, 6-5-1.
Lucas Glover, 2-6-1. Justin Thomas, 16-5.

Speaker 4 Yeah. How do you say no to that, Hank? That's a resume pick.

Speaker 1 Dude, when he was 16-5, he was a top 10, top 20 golfer in the world. He gets up for the big moments.

Speaker 1 He was already up. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 When he was playing in those matches, he deserved to be on the team because he was one of the best golfers in the world, and he played like one of the best golfers in the world.

Speaker 1 He's not playing good golf right now. When was the last Ryder Cup? It was two years ago? Okay.
Justin Thomas has won a major since then. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't like it. I'm standing with Justin Thomas.

Speaker 1 We'll let him know. We'll let him know.
That's fine. I just feel bad for

Speaker 1 Keegan and the guys. I like Keegan a lot too.
I like Keegan too. He's been playing better golf.
Even Bryson Bryce is not a 58. He's done live.
He's been on the Ryder Cups before.

Speaker 1 But it's a team sport.

Speaker 1 Golf is an individual sport. Now you're doing a team setting.
He's the ultimate team guy. He's friends with all these guys, and he's a fucking killer when he plays in international play.

Speaker 1 Just a lot of pressure. And guess what? That's what he's doing.

Speaker 4 He's 16 and 5.

Speaker 1 Without the entire fan base and world being like, you shouldn't be on this team. You better perform.
I'm just worried about that. Oh, a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 He's going to perform because everyone's on the team. I hope he does.

Speaker 1 I hope he does. I just wish Patrick Reed.
It would be a great story.

Speaker 4 I love it when they have to pretend to be friends with Patrick Reed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Patrick Reed, like Patrick Reed being not on the team and Justin Thomas being on the team, is the greatest vibes change of all time. Everyone likes each other.
That's what we need. We need leaders.

Speaker 1 We need guys who've done it. Come on, Hank.
You want to win this thing or no? I do. I just sound like it's a risky pick, in my opinion.
Okay. Well, let's make a bet.

Speaker 1 Justin Thomas will win his matches.

Speaker 4 How many solo matches does he get? I don't know. I don't know the format.

Speaker 1 I do. That's where I, and I don't, I don't, I'm not as well-versed on the Ryder Cup or how

Speaker 1 significant the.

Speaker 1 You didn't know Justin Thomas was 16 and five. Obviously, him and him and Speeth are boys, and they never lose.
So that, I guess, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 So you'd want to put it in a team that never loses. I get it.
I just, it's a risk.

Speaker 4 He's a killer.

Speaker 1 He's a killer.

Speaker 6 But imagine if the final day is 12 singles matches. So

Speaker 1 he performs badly. And he's like, why would you kick a person who didn't even make the FedE Cup playoffs? He's a killer.

Speaker 4 He's done it before, though.

Speaker 1 Why didn't he kill this season? Because it wasn't an international play.

Speaker 4 He's changed his game to more accommodate the international play style.

Speaker 1 He's a killer.

Speaker 1 I think you're forgetting the part that he is a killer.

Speaker 4 They have the bigger key.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I hope they win.
I hope Justin Justin Thomas proves me wrong. I actually hope they lose, and Justin Thomas is the only one that wins.
And it's like we could have used 12 Justin Thomas.

Speaker 4 It's so funny to imagine golfers getting up for international play. In other sports, if you're playing for your country,

Speaker 4 most sports are more conducive to being aggressive, showing a lot of emotion,

Speaker 4 running on adrenaline. In golf, it's like...

Speaker 4 almost the exact opposite where you want somebody that's more mellow that doesn't even care that they're playing yeah but making a big pot you can unleash you can't unleash.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we've seen some guys unleash in the past.

Speaker 1 Big time unleash. I have a question about cut day, last thing before we do hot seat cool tone.
When did it become a thing that people just tweet out like a star player gets cut?

Speaker 1 Have you guys seen this trend? I mean, I just fucking walk outside and Nikki Smokes goes, see the Patriots cut Matthew Judon because of his comments about Ariana Grande? I was like, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't even have to look. I know.

Speaker 1 And he walked by and he's like, yeah, that was, I think I got, I think I got caught. Oh, you got the prankster got pranked?

Speaker 1 Like that. Someone tweeted like the Chiefs cut Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 4 Oh, doing a fake thing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's not even.

Speaker 6 It might be for engagement. Steve E.
Lon sent out a warning. Oh, once you manipulate the system, like your account's going to be suspended.

Speaker 4 Whoa. How does he manipulate? How would one manipulate the system?

Speaker 1 Doing a bunch of polls on who will win each compensation.

Speaker 6 You've never known that any attempts to manipulate the creator compensation program on this platform will result in an account suspension.

Speaker 4 Oh, like stealing tweets?

Speaker 6 I don't know what that means, but it seems like if you're just blatantly just tweeting just to get impressions, he's watching.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what else are you tweeting for?

Speaker 4 Love of the game.

Speaker 6 I'm just, that's how I interpret that. That's how I am.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, we want Elon to keep paying us.

Speaker 4 So stop manipulating the system.

Speaker 1 So stop tweeting Patrick Mahomes got cut.

Speaker 1 Because even though you know it's fake, you still see it and you're like, wait, what?

Speaker 1 We should sign that guy. Bring him in.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like when I see that, my first instinct is like, well, if he did get cut, let's bring him in for a workout.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Let's at least see what he's got.

Speaker 4 Let's see if he's got anything left in the tank.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 There's also DeMar Hamlin made the team. Oh, good for him.
So, yeah, good for him. I think his comeback player of the year odds are at like minus 280 right now.
Wow. Odds on favorite to win.

Speaker 1 Do you think that they say in a meeting? Yeah. Yeah.
And they're like, we can't.

Speaker 4 I think they had a conversation that was like, here are two options. One, we cut DeMar Hamlin.

Speaker 4 Two, we cut him, but we give him a job as like supervisor of morale, supervisor of not dying for the Buffalo Bills and just keep him around and supervisor of alive.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You always need one of those. Senior vice president of refibrillation.

Speaker 1 Being alive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that. I mean, he probably made the team because

Speaker 1 he is a good depth guy for them.

Speaker 4 Well, maybe his clone's better than he was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 That would be a big upgrade.

Speaker 1 What if he picked up a couple tricks when he was in the lab?

Speaker 4 That would be interesting. Like, some people have a stroke and then they come back and they can play the piano out of nowhere.
What if DeMar comes back and

Speaker 4 now he can read an offense and know exactly when to time a blitz?

Speaker 1 He's like,

Speaker 1 Mel Gibson and what women want. Yeah.
What quarterbacks want. Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 Oh, we should write that movie. That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Holy fuck. We should actually write because the DeMar Hamlin movie,

Speaker 1 I don't really know if there's enough to write it now, but if we got our hands on the script and we changed the ending to it, where he got a supernatural power.

Speaker 4 He can hear everything that the quarterbacks are thinking.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 imagine him going up against Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 1 That'd be pretty gross. Yeah.
Or going up against Kirk Cousins. He's like, fuck, why is he talking about Kohl's?

Speaker 1 Why is he talking about Sweater a Target? We're in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Philip Rivers, I'd love to hear his thoughts.

Speaker 4 Dag Nevitt, I should be pregnant with my wife again. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Later tonight, I'm going to put another seed in her.

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Okay, hot seat, cool throne, Hank.

Speaker 1 My hot seat is the NBA. Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 China? China. No, track and field star.
Oh. Noah Lyles.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you know about Noah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everyone knows Noah. He was doing an interview where he basically asked, you know, why do they call the NBA the world champion, world champion of what? They only play in America.

Speaker 1 And there was a, you know, it was kind of an embraced debate, I guess.

Speaker 1 Is the NBA the world champion or are they just the U.S.

Speaker 4 champion?

Speaker 1 Have the Nuggets beaten like the Series A team from Slovenia?

Speaker 6 No. Well, you have the Raptors.
So it's international. That's international.

Speaker 4 Did the Nuggets beat Victor Wimbanyama's team in France? No. The Mets.
They did not.

Speaker 4 They have not beaten the Mets yet.

Speaker 1 Did the Nuggets beat UConn?

Speaker 4 They did not. Right.

Speaker 1 So good point. Yeah, this is the dumbest debate ever, especially when you consider all the best players in the world play in the NBA.

Speaker 4 This is track and field being like, please like my sport. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then you think about some of those Spurs teams. Remember the Spurs when they won maybe their last title and all the dudes had their home countries' flags? There was like 15 different flags.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Nuggets famously only represent the United States. All their good players come from the USA.

Speaker 1 This is one of those cases where a guy's trying to say something deep and then he says it.

Speaker 1 We call it an ocho, and he says it, and then when it comes out of his mouth, he's like, uh, yeah, take that, guys.

Speaker 1 Here's a quote, though. This is from someone in 2010.
It doesn't make any sense for an NBA team to call themselves world champions.

Speaker 1 I don't remember anybody playing anybody outside of our borders to get that tag. Greg Popovich.
2010. He did play outside of the borders.
He played the Raptors.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but, you know, everyone was kind of roasting him, and I agree. But then you see the quotes from Greg Popovich saying the same thing.
Yeah, he probably was on the Vino.

Speaker 4 You should be allowed to challenge a team, though. There should be, if you're like an Italian basketball team, you should be allowed to challenge the Nuggets.

Speaker 4 If you beat them, then you're world champions. If you lose, your team is folded.

Speaker 1 That should be the plan, but like a relegation plan.

Speaker 4 You're talking about a super league.

Speaker 1 Or the mid-season tournament. Yeah.
Bringing all the champs. NBA Cup.

Speaker 1 My other question from this, not a soccer guy, you guys are, thankfully.

Speaker 1 What is the best soccer league? Like, if there was in this, in this

Speaker 1 Saudi Arabia, the Champions League. Is the best teams from each league playing each other? So if there were...
They can call themselves world champions.

Speaker 1 So if there was a comparable league, so say if the NFL, if there was a comparable league in like England, American football, and they were really, really good,

Speaker 1 they would have basically how the Champions League works is every single league, like EPL, the league in France, the Bundeslaga from Germany, the Spanish League, all the leagues in Europe, their best four teams play in a tournament during the season concurrently.

Speaker 1 That's when you see like Tuesday and Wednesday games. That's Champions League.
So Hank,

Speaker 4 in relation to United States sports, it's kind of like college football. A little bit.
They've all got their their own, like the different divisions spread across our country.

Speaker 4 There's a spread across Europe. And so the best teams from each conference then go into a Final Four, and then the winner of that is the national champion here.

Speaker 4 The winner of that is the UEFA Champions League champion over in Europe.

Speaker 1 But it's hard to say which league is the best because the EPL is probably the deepest, but then like Bayern Munich or

Speaker 1 PSG or Real Madrid or Barcelona when they had Messi, like they would win the Champions League. So maybe the best teams in a different league, but the best league overall, I think it's the EPL.

Speaker 4 Probably the EPL.

Speaker 1 Definitely not MLS. Yeah, not.
Yeah. MLS should get in the Champions League.

Speaker 4 That would be awesome. I would love to see it.

Speaker 1 We get fucking smoked.

Speaker 1 Okay, good question, Hank. Talking soccer.
And then what was your cool throne?

Speaker 1 Oh, my cool throne is Tiffany Gomez. Yeah.
Yeah, she's back.

Speaker 4 She's flying. She's back.

Speaker 1 She's back on the planes. She's so fucking hot.
She's back in the

Speaker 1 well. She did an interview.
She was you know, playing core. They kind of, it was like a little TMZ interview with the rain up at the airport.
And

Speaker 1 she said she, you know, wasn't, she didn't know what she saw. She was kind of not giving answers on what she saw on the back of that plane.

Speaker 1 But she did say that an in-depth interview is going to have to happen.

Speaker 4 So come on the show, Tiffany.

Speaker 1 Go, Tiffany. And in person only.

Speaker 4 I invited her on the show. I have not heard back from her.
We would love to talk to you about anything, really. Just be in the same room as you.

Speaker 1 I also like that Tiffany Gomez is definitely not an industry plant like this isn't a setup to make someone famous because when she did her initial video then she did a post and she was uh didn't have shoes or socks on she was giving away her freet for feet feet for free online

Speaker 1 that is a rookie mistake tiffany you got to make the boys pay for those anyone with management that's that's you got it you got to cover those feet up and be like listen tiffany those puppies we get 50k a pop she just want she should become an air marshal we should just put her on one plane a day.

Speaker 1 Especially if she was TSA. I bring so many drugs and guns in my pockets.

Speaker 4 We should put her on one plane a day, and she gets to kick off one person from each flight who's not real.

Speaker 1 I like that. Yeah.
Real or not real? What a game show.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Tiffany, come play real or not real with us.

Speaker 4 We'll also judge. It's like cake or not.

Speaker 1 You know how everything's cake?

Speaker 1 People just go, you know, you cut through stuff.

Speaker 4 I think they're real.

Speaker 1 We just cut through people. Oh, shit.
Whoops. That guy was real.
They're bleeding out.

Speaker 4 I've seen the videos. They're definitely real.
Yeah. And they're spectacular.

Speaker 1 And then my other cool throne is Bolero. Our friends at Over at Bolero, they are now carrying part of my cheesesteak.
Plug God. 140 locations.
Plug God. Love it.
Yeah, absolutely. Got you, Jake.

Speaker 1 What did I say yesterday when they asked me for a comment?

Speaker 1 It was a great, great comment. I said it was a perfect strike.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who are you going to call? Big hat. Yeah.
Yeah. Bolero.
Part of my cheesesteak. Bolero.

Speaker 4 Great friendship. So fun fact about Bolero, their director of food and beverage was my freshman year roommate at JMU.
That's wow.

Speaker 1 Didn't realize that. So this is our little nepotism.

Speaker 4 Didn't realize that until we did the first Bolero thing, and I was like, Jeff, you can't tell anybody anything that I ever did.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 But please put our cheese steaks in your bowling alley. No, Bolero is awesome.
Bowling is awesome. Bowling is one of those things that every time we do it, we're like, why don't we do this more?

Speaker 1 Why don't we bowl more? Bowling is so much fun.

Speaker 4 We should start a league in the winter. They're a total strike, and there won't be any left to spare.

Speaker 1 Yes. Like it.
Like it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Good job. Cool thrones, hot seats.
You did everything.

Speaker 4 Nice job, Hank.

Speaker 1 Thanks. Thanks for watching.

Speaker 4 And you got a great deck.

Speaker 4 My hot seat is Spanish soccer. More soccer talk today.
So the president of the Spanish Soccer Federation got a little hot water after the Women's World Cup.

Speaker 4 He kissed one of his players on the lips as she walked across the stage.

Speaker 4 He claimed it was consensual. She has since come out and said there was nothing about that that was consensual.
Okay. FIFA has suspended him, and now

Speaker 4 he's denying all the accusations. He's got a sexual harassment

Speaker 4 thing. Yeah, but he's still saying that

Speaker 4 that was consensual.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 4 Now, where it gets interesting is that guy's mom has now entered the fray. She's engaging in a hunger strike inside of a church to protest all the bad stuff that

Speaker 4 she claims they're doing to her son. So she's saying that

Speaker 4 she's describing the media scrutiny as inhumane hounding of her son, and she's calling on Vanessa Ruiz and Hermoso, who was kissed, to tell the truth about the kiss. So this guy's mom believes him.

Speaker 4 That's a news flash.

Speaker 4 Like, of course, your mom's going to try to support you, but the hunger strike is ongoing right now inside of the Spanish church, trying to take the heat off of the president of the Spanish Soccer Federation.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's see. Let's watch this hunger strike.
She just needs to come out and say that we always kiss on the lips. Like, if she has video of

Speaker 1 adult mom with adult son kissing on the lips all the time,

Speaker 1 you might have a little wiggle room.

Speaker 4 Well, after every good show that we do on Part of My Take, Dave kisses us on the lips one by one as we walk out. That's just a reward for a job well done.

Speaker 1 Our birthdays, 1201. Our birthdays, we kiss.

Speaker 4 We kiss at midnight.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, we'll see what happens with this guy.

Speaker 4 But then, also, their coach was in trouble during the World Cup because celebrating a goal, he reached out and he grabbed one of his assistant coaches' boobs. It might just be the same coach.

Speaker 4 It might just, no, different. This is a coach and the president of the Spanish Federation.

Speaker 1 These guys are touchy-feely.

Speaker 4 Spain is giving Italy a real run for their money in terms of pervert or Spanish. Yeah.
That might be the new segment.

Speaker 1 Espa Barcelona. Perverto.

Speaker 6 Her breath with Othapo.

Speaker 4 So that's my hot seat. My cool throne is Blake Bortles.

Speaker 4 Blake Bortles on the cool throne. He is living his lifelong dream of working construction.

Speaker 4 So he's getting a house built for himself, and he asked if he could join the crew that's building his house and work construction. Why are you giving giving me this look?

Speaker 1 Where did you hear this?

Speaker 4 Billy Football wrote a blog about it.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 So Gaz tweeted a text that he got

Speaker 1 saying this.

Speaker 1 Blake Bortles told us this on part of my take a year ago. In October.

Speaker 4 Oh, that he was still working construction?

Speaker 1 Yet he was doing exactly this.

Speaker 4 Oh, I forgot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it was Gaz, basically someone listened to part of my take, texted Gaz the exact story Bortles told us, and then Billy blogged it, which, again, Billy was in the room for when Blake Bortles told us this.

Speaker 1 I got billied. He said, There's construction.
We're like, What are you doing these days?

Speaker 1 He's like, Well, we're building a new house, and I get bored sometimes, and I go see if I can help the guys out.

Speaker 4 Okay, Billy butt cracked me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was. Well, when Gaz tweeted, I was like, Wait, like, what? Bortles told us.

Speaker 4 What's breaking again? It broke to me twice.

Speaker 1 That's why we were giving you that face. We're like, Are you, I thought maybe you were doing it being like no?

Speaker 4 I got re-broke.

Speaker 1 I got re-broke on this news. Yeah, yeah.
No, he, he, he told us this.

Speaker 4 Oh, also, Blake Bortles is retiring from football. Yeah.
That's kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 I thought he was going to be in camp this year. My other cool throne is Boltman.
Yes. Chargers' unofficial super fan.
Well, he's an official super fan.

Speaker 4 But he stopped by the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Sunday night, and he paid respects to Junior Sayo's bust in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 It was a very funny picture of Boltman looking solemnly at Junior Sayow's face. And Boltman is nothing if not civically engaged.
We've seen him at town council meetings.

Speaker 4 We've seen him addressing the owners of the team from the podium. Boltman is

Speaker 4 a legend in the Superfan game, and it's very funny to imagine Boltman staring solemnly at Junior Seo when you know that Junior Seo's face is staring back at the sunglasses' face with the menacing grin that Boltman always has.

Speaker 1 It was incredible.

Speaker 1 It's a beautiful picture.

Speaker 4 Our boy Clue Haywood replied with a Photoshop that he made of Boltman observing the Vietnam Wall in D.C. I'm sure that we're going to get Boltman Photoshops are going to be hot in the streets.

Speaker 1 I mean, they They are just big time.

Speaker 4 Keep that in the back of your head. Boltman Photoshops, I'm buying stock on those right now.

Speaker 4 Blake Borders working construction?

Speaker 1 Pop

Speaker 1 for Jonathan Taylor. Oh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 4 This is a game of who's going to blink first.

Speaker 1 Damn. So he's not going to get traded because

Speaker 1 he's going to be out for four weeks.

Speaker 4 Here's a dumb question. Why don't the Colts just put him on the active roster?

Speaker 1 They have to pay him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but not that much, right? Why wouldn't they? Just hope that he shows up for day one.

Speaker 1 But they'd have to pay him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but that's what I would do. I would just, I would, I would put him on the active roster, be like, maybe he'll change his mind before week one.

Speaker 1 No, well, he can't.

Speaker 1 If he's on the pup, he can't play. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, for the first four weeks.

Speaker 4 But that's not what I was saying.

Speaker 1 I was correcting Billy. I was quoteing Billy saying, please credit the pardon my take episode that you were on in October.

Speaker 4 Okay, Billy, I fucked up too.

Speaker 1 All right?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I don't know what to do with Jonathan Taylor if you're the Colts. I think you just got to hope that he shows up.

Speaker 1 I think you got to say he's going to show running back. He's going to show up.
He'll show up. Yeah.
All right. Pop for Jonathan Taylor.
All right. My hot seat, cool thrown.

Speaker 1 My hot seat is the Mets for doing a

Speaker 1 highlight video of Max Scherzer when he was back in New York last night. It's classy.
Very classy.

Speaker 1 Tough, tough look. Mets fans did boo

Speaker 1 in person,

Speaker 1 but I did have some Mets fans being like, they do these tribute videos for everyone. That's ridiculous.
I know that they won a bunch of games last year. They didn't amount to anything.

Speaker 1 You can't do, especially a guy who left under what didn't feel like great terms. You can't do a video for him.
That's insane. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Did the Celtics ever give Isaiah Thomas his video?

Speaker 1 I think so, right? That was a. They actually don't.

Speaker 4 That was like a month-long storyline we were all paying attention to.

Speaker 1 That was depressing. I don't think it ever happened because he got cut.
Damn. So either way, Matt

Speaker 1 got a tribute video, which was very awkward. My cool throne, I have two.

Speaker 1 The first is this guy who does a Notre Dame podcast, Vince Didario,

Speaker 1 who seemingly shit his pants live recording. He said afterwards he got two cramps.
That's why he ran out with one of his shit, Pants. Yeah, cool.
I did give it to him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that. Listen, we stand with anyone who shits their pants.
It happens. What are you going to do?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's just a cramp, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He He probably was drinking a bunch of Guinness on Saturday.

Speaker 4 It's an internal cramp. Everybody deals with them.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I shit my pants after drinking a lot of Guinness once.

Speaker 4 What do you want the guy to do? You want him to just stay in the room?

Speaker 1 No, you can't. You can't.
And then my other cool throne is the White Sox. It's been a very bad year for the White Sox.
The team was supposed to be good.

Speaker 1 They have been very bad. Jerry Reinsdorf's been teasing, selling the team, possibly moving to Nashville, possibly Arlington Heights.

Speaker 1 And then a gun went off the other day in the outfield in the bleachers during a game. Now, the reason why I have him on the cool throne is we got some more details of it.

Speaker 1 And I'm a firm believer that if your team is going to have a bad season, make it so bad it's a circus and you can just laugh at it.

Speaker 1 And that's where the White Sox have gotten to because per Peggy Kaczynski, who's a great reporter for ESPN 1000, said the shooting at guaranteed rate field during a White Sox game was indeed an accidental discharge by one of the women grazed by the bullet.

Speaker 1 She reportedly snuck the gun in past metal detectors, hiding it in the folds of her belly fat.

Speaker 4 I don't know how that works anatomically. Like to be able to support an entire gun in the folds of your belly fat, it's got to be a small gun.

Speaker 1 I mean, it has to be a small gun, but that is

Speaker 1 very fat.

Speaker 1 The White Sox have officially reached the level of that's funny. Like they're doing funny shit.

Speaker 1 It's such a train wreck of a season. A belly fat gun.

Speaker 1 Like you'll just know that like oh yeah remember that season the belly fat gun you think she intentionally brought the gun or you think like she was walking in she's like fuck i had this gun in my purse and i don't want to like get rid of it oh i thought you were saying like she forgot that she had the gun in her belly fat already no like you know you you walk in you're like oh fuck i have to go through security oh fuck i brought a giant tool set to the airport my first time flying first class

Speaker 4 exactly she's just finding quarters and like you know hot dogs i think it's it's not beyond the remote possibility that she had the the gun on her bed for protection and she rolled over in the middle of the night.

Speaker 4 It got stuck in her belly fat and then she didn't realize that the gun was still in her belly fat when she walked into the game.

Speaker 1 She woke up, went to the game, was like, fuck,

Speaker 1 my belly fat gun's here.

Speaker 4 You know what's almost more embarrassing is that the gun that was jammed into her belly fat went off and she didn't really hit herself. Yes.
She just got grazed. Yes.

Speaker 4 If your gun acts, it's like a Plaxco Burris situation. It's funny that the gun went off in his sweatpants and he shot himself.
Right. This woman didn't even really shoot herself.
It just grazed her.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's also, if you have a belly fat gun, that means you definitely have a gun that doesn't fit in your belly fat that you would never bring to a game.

Speaker 4 What's the charge on that? Yeah, yeah, you're

Speaker 1 a real gun. Yeah, your real gun doesn't, you're like, oh, this is not,

Speaker 1 I can't conceal this one in my belly fat. I'll have to keep this

Speaker 1 properly stowed away in the gun box.

Speaker 4 I can see John Morant accidentally shooting himself during a game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he needs to get fatter. He needs to James Harden.

Speaker 4 James Harden. James Harden, definitely.
But yeah,

Speaker 4 it's an embarrassing situation. Probably why we didn't learn the full story until just now.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I would love to see the police interrogation tapes where they sit her down or wheel her in or whatever it is and ask her, okay, we think we know what happened here.

Speaker 4 It was in your belly fat, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 So how did you get this in?

Speaker 1 It's the perfect crime. It really is.
It's the belly fat. The belly fat, probably, yeah, it's like a Kev.

Speaker 1 The belly fat stopped the metal detector. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. Yeah, so when she walked through, did they have to wander down? And she was like, that might be my, that's my IUD.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's my belly fat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my belly fat sometimes goes off. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jake, your hot seat, cool toron.

Speaker 6 My hot seat's AI. AI is trying to squeeze out journalism.
I don't know if you guys saw this story, but Alan Iverson?

Speaker 1 No. Oh, Andre Guadala.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So they're having the Columbus Dispatch. What's AI? Artificial Intelligence.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 They're having the Columbus Dispatch write AI sports stories.

Speaker 3 And one of them was so robotic that they reversed it.

Speaker 1 So that sounds like

Speaker 1 AI just killed itself. Well, my hotspot, yeah.

Speaker 1 AI is on the hotspot. Yeah, because it got to the job.

Speaker 4 Not a big J.

Speaker 1 Correct. Got it.

Speaker 6 This is a hard industry, and they're just trying to squeeze out more of us.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 it's been going on for a while where a lot of newspapers have been using AI to write high school, like high school football updates have been done by AI for a lot of people.

Speaker 1 That's what this was.

Speaker 6 Yes, but they're pausing it.

Speaker 4 This was just a really shitty AI program that they hired to do it. If you want a job done, do it right.
Pay for the premium AI service so nobody will know that it's a robot that does it.

Speaker 6 Or just let journalists do it.

Speaker 4 Or just let a human being do it. Exactly.
You need that human touch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm actually standing up for journalists. I'm not okay with AI.
I don't know. If we all just don't have to work.
Well,

Speaker 4 I'm okay with AI insofar as that I want AI to know that I'm on its side for when it does take over and it'll like me.

Speaker 1 And if AI can be like, hey, AI, you do my job, I'll just chill. I'm okay with that, I think.
It's probably a big mistake.

Speaker 4 We should smash all the computers. That's what I think.

Speaker 6 That works. My cool throne.

Speaker 4 There should be a day in the United States where nobody uses computers. They turn off the internet from computers.

Speaker 1 That would be awesome.

Speaker 4 Yeah, go dry.

Speaker 1 Damn. We'd all, like, divorces, everything would just be a problem.

Speaker 4 Or we're just really great for one day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Just be optimistic.

Speaker 6 My cool throne's sister Jean. She threw out the first pitch at the Cubs game, which made it.
Terrible,

Speaker 1 terrible pitch.

Speaker 4 I'm a slop.

Speaker 1 I'd take that to no, no, was it? No disrespect?

Speaker 4 I would knock that out of the park.

Speaker 1 Knock that out of the park.

Speaker 4 I actually had a difference. I've been a Sister Gene hater for a few years.
When she wound up and then she threw it underhand, I was completely fooled. She was out there throwing junk.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, slop.

Speaker 4 It's gross. Yeah, well, I don't think I could hit it.

Speaker 6 Celebrating her 104th birthday.

Speaker 4 I would back her down in the low post. I would dunk on her, but I think she might be able to strike me out.

Speaker 1 Dude, Sister Gene is so old, I was scrolling Twitter, saw it, and I read it as 140, and I didn't even flinch. Yeah.
Like, she will live to be 140. She's a witch.

Speaker 1 If you get past 100, it's like, what's stopping you?

Speaker 4 She is an absolute witch. My grandmother used to tell me nuns are witches.

Speaker 4 I believed that for several years.

Speaker 1 I also got a theory for you that you might want to work on PFT. I don't think I've ever seen Virginia McCasky, Bear Zoneer, and Sister Jean in the same room.

Speaker 4 That is interesting. Huh.

Speaker 1 Just two

Speaker 1 women just living over 100. Girl bosses? Girl bosses, just girl bossing their way around town.

Speaker 4 Sister Jean, badass, badass woman.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she is the original girl boss. Because

Speaker 1 I don't know if history goes back far enough to find another one. It doesn't.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay. She's the first woman.

Speaker 1 She's the first woman. She is Eve.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests, and it's finally in person.

Speaker 1 It is

Speaker 1 the best college football writer online.

Speaker 3 True.

Speaker 1 Hank Lockwood. Andy Staples doesn't write anymore, I don't think.
Tom Fernelli in studio. Hank and Tom in the same studio.

Speaker 1 For the first time ever. Crazy.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Tom, great to see you. Thank you for, I would say you were at least 5% of the move to Chicago.
It was like, oh, well, like three times a year, we can have Tom on in person.

Speaker 3 I think that's pretty much the only reason you need to be back at Chicago. And honestly, since I've moved to the suburbs, this show is the only reason I've been back to Chicago in a couple months.

Speaker 1 Yes. Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 4 You turned your back on the city?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I've just, I'm done. I'm a suburbanite now.

Speaker 1 We're over it.

Speaker 4 I'm going to say something, and don't take it the wrong way. I'm not coming on to you, but you look good.

Speaker 1 You do look good. Thank you, Wait.

Speaker 3 I have not, but what I have been doing is golfing a lot. I've been, you know, Hank stole my identity.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah.

Speaker 3 Hank stole my identity, so I'm trying to steal his. I've been out golfing a lot this summer, took my first lesson in April, so I just have a tan.

Speaker 3 That is really the only difference for somebody who works from home. I haven't had a tan like this in three or four years.

Speaker 1 If you can't tone it, tan it. Yeah, exactly.
That's what they say.

Speaker 1 All right, so we are on the precipice of the 2023 college football season. No better time.
So let's start big picture.

Speaker 1 Realignment happened. All this bullshit happened.
Are you?

Speaker 1 I'm personally more excited for this season than I've been in a long time just because I think there's going to be weird blood feuds and teams about to leave and just kind of enjoy it before everyone breaks up.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling going into this season?

Speaker 3 I'm kind of with you in that I'm looking forward to it because I do feel like this is the last season of college football resembling kind of what we've all grown up watching and rooting for, and it is going to change.

Speaker 3 But I'm also somewhat non-plussed simply because, like, Georgia has obviously won the last two national titles. They're probably going to win a third.

Speaker 3 Like, when I look at things going into the season and I look at Georgia's schedule, there is absolutely no way in hell they are not making the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Okay, but here's the one fun part because you said it with Georgia's schedule. We get to do an entire season of Georgia hasn't been tested yet.
No. That's a fun thing.

Speaker 3 But that's the thing. Georgia gets to the playoff and it doesn't really get tested.

Speaker 3 Like the Ohio State game was great, and then you get to the title game against TCU, which is, you know, oh, there's the Cinderella story that everybody says can't happen in the college football playoff.

Speaker 3 And then they get, what, 65 to 7?

Speaker 4 You bet on TCU, right? You told America take the points.

Speaker 1 No, I did not. This is an all-time.

Speaker 1 This will be really. I don't know.
I can't remember.

Speaker 4 Well, it would be a...

Speaker 4 It's a smart bet, you could say.

Speaker 4 Everyone's going to be betting on Georgia, but Georgia is so good that it doesn't matter what they set the spread.

Speaker 1 They're just going to dominate. It's going to be an all-time.

Speaker 1 Georgia's going to dominate everyone. I don't think they have a game on their schedule.
Tennessee at Tennessee is kind of their toughest schedule.

Speaker 3 But look what they did to Tennessee last year. I know.

Speaker 1 So we will spend the entirety of this season debating, well, Georgia hasn't played anyone.

Speaker 1 And that's going to be, and you're basically hoping that Georgia has just, I mean, you could make the argument because this is now nitpicking because they are a phenomenal team.

Speaker 1 Is the disease of Moore going to take over for Georgia where they've been there? They've done it twice. They're scheduled.
They don't have those big games that will get like everyone ramped up for.

Speaker 1 Can they trip up somewhere?

Speaker 3 So, what you're saying is like Georgia's biggest opponent is complacency.

Speaker 1 Yes. Georgia versus themselves.
Maybe media.

Speaker 4 We might have to put it on our shoulders.

Speaker 3 We do because we have been doubting Georgia. Kirby's got he's that's the one thing I think Kirby took from Sabin.

Speaker 3 More important than recruiting or anything is convincing your players nobody believes in you.

Speaker 3 Because I have seen it from the Georgia fan base already because, like, two people in the SEC media poll picked Alabama to win the league. It's like, see, they don't believe in you.

Speaker 1 No one believes in you, kids.

Speaker 4 it's going to be funny because Georgia is, if Georgia was a little bit worse, if they were like barely favored to win the national championship, then I don't think we could say like they haven't played anybody.

Speaker 4 But there's just nobody that Georgia possibly could play for us to be like, wow, yeah, Georgia's battle test.

Speaker 3 Well, that's part of it, too, because you look at Georgia's schedule and you say, oh my God, they're going to win all of these games by two or three scores. It's so easy.
But then if you put like.

Speaker 3 Auburn with the same Georgia schedule, they're probably going eight and four. So it's not like it's a cakewalk.

Speaker 3 It's just in comparison to Georgia, there really is nobody else in the country that you could put in front of them that's not within their own league or Ohio State or Michigan or maybe USC this year, although after what I saw from that defense last weekend, I'm not that high on the Trojans anymore.

Speaker 3 But it's just, it's one of those things. They are so fucking good that there really isn't anybody else that you have any kind of faith in beating them, even with a new quarterback.

Speaker 4 Right. So one more question about realignment.
Is there a winner? Who's the winner and who's the loser from realignment?

Speaker 3 The SEC and the Big Ten are winners, and television executives are winners, and conference commissioners are winners. I mean, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 That's why I watch the sport.

Speaker 4 I love it when the commissioner does his advertisement during the bull game.

Speaker 3 I mean, I will say I'm a winner in the sense that

Speaker 3 since I worked for CBS,

Speaker 3 growing up as a Big Ten fan, watching Big Ten football, going to a Big Ten school, the fact that the Big Ten is now on CBS is actually something that is very exciting for me.

Speaker 1 It's a big winner for you.

Speaker 3 Exactly. So I'm a winner in that sense.
I am a loser in that to get what I wanted, I had to add USC, UCLA, Washington, and Oregon.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you had to destroy college football.

Speaker 1 We didn't have to add Washington, Oregon. We did them on faith.
No, they were on sale. Yeah.
The Rutgers is a winner, too. Rutgers and Maryland.

Speaker 3 Rutgers and Maryland are big-time winners. I mean, they've got a ton of money from just being.

Speaker 1 Right place, right time. Yeah, like, oh, they got a lot of cable boxes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, James Gandofini was on the like Rutgers. Ray Rice.
I know Rutgers always gets shit on, but they really did.

Speaker 1 To say something nice about Rutgers, they used the minimal amount of success for the maximum amount of security. Yeah, I mean, they played it perfectly.

Speaker 3 Jim Delaney back in the day looked at Rutgers and said, hey, that's close to New York. You know what New York has a lot of? Yeah.

Speaker 1 People. Yeah.
We can do the map. We can do the Game of Thrones map where it goes all the way to the coast.

Speaker 4 They love college football in New York.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's probably, I mean, you guys would know better than me, but it's got to be the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 Bourbon and college football. Barbecue, bourbon, and college football.
That's what we're doing today, man. Yes.
All right. So

Speaker 1 let's go big conference by big conference. So SEC Georgia, if not Georgia, then who? LSU.

Speaker 3 Okay. I really, I'm not going to say that the Alabama dynasty is dead, but I feel like it's dying and it's, you know, it's not going well.
I mean, there's

Speaker 3 Sabin this week is standing in front of the media saying he's not going to release a depth chart for their game against, I think, Middle Tennessee.

Speaker 1 Competitive advantage.

Speaker 3 Because it's a competitive advantage. And it could cause, like, it could distract players in the locker room to know what their job is, I guess.

Speaker 1 That's a fact, yeah.

Speaker 4 So that to me, it's an amoeba depth chart.

Speaker 1 We don't tell Hank what day he's working until the day of.

Speaker 3 No, Hank doesn't know when a weekend is.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 3 they bring in, you know, it's like we don't know who Alabama's quarterback is yet.

Speaker 3 We mostly think it's going to be Jalen Millro, but you look at that team, like they had Bryce Young the last few years.

Speaker 3 The guy who was the number one pick in the draft was one of the best players in the country, and they couldn't get past Georgia with him.

Speaker 3 And the roster talent-wise, like the one thing that Alabama was able to do during this dynastic run recruiting was they killed everybody on the lines of scrimmage, offensive line, defensive line.

Speaker 3 And they still have good players in those spots, but Kirby Smart and Georgia have better players. They have gotten more of those guys.

Speaker 3 And it's been kind of under-talked about in recent years that Alabama's offensive line the last few years for Alabama standards has sucked.

Speaker 3 They have not been able to run the ball, even with Bryce Young and defenses having to trust that. And I look at LSU.
They did a lot better than I anticipated in Brian Kelly's first year.

Speaker 1 He's a really good coach.

Speaker 3 Terrible partner. Turns out he's a really good coach.

Speaker 3 And Jaden Daniels was fantastic. Behind Jaden Daniels, they have Garrett Nussmeyer, who some people believe is going to be very good himself if he ever has to go in and start.
He's got a huge arm.

Speaker 3 They've got a bunch of talented receivers. They're very talented at running back.
They've got good players on both the offensive and defensive line.

Speaker 3 The secondary, there's some question marks there that haven't been proven, but I give LSU the benefit of the doubt when it comes to producing defensive backs.

Speaker 3 So I just look at that division, and I think LSU is better than Alabama this year, and they're more likely to win the West.

Speaker 3 And I think if you get them to the SEC title game against Georgia, they've got a shot. They've probably got a better shot shot than anybody else in that conference of beating Georgia.

Speaker 4 Okay, who's that offensive lineman that they just said was going to get to number seven

Speaker 4 on LSU?

Speaker 1 Left tackle, I think. What the hell is that? I don't know.
On the spot. Yeah, you're putting me on the spot here.

Speaker 3 I do not know his name, but no, it's not.

Speaker 1 No, the left tackle for LSU. But

Speaker 4 he's getting number seven. Best player in Louisiana gets to rock number seven.
But he's not allowed to wear number seven on the field.

Speaker 3 No, but Teddy Bridgewater can wear number 50, which, by the way, tangent, that just looked fucked up.

Speaker 1 I mean, Will Campbell.

Speaker 4 Will Campbell, yeah. I think he should be allowed to actually wear the number seven.
I don't offensive linemen wearing seven, just one. I don't.

Speaker 3 No, I think offensive line is the one traditional position where, god damn it, we need to have a standard. All right, you're you're a fat guy who moves pretty well.
You need to be in a 60 or a 70.

Speaker 3 I don't want to see single digits on the offensive line. We're too classy, we're too smart.
I speak as a former high school offensive lineman, so I know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 Leave that for the defensive lineman. They're the show boats, they're the guys who are trying to show off.

Speaker 4 Just one big dude wearing number seven would be cool. The rest of them have to wear in the 60s, preferably 69 should be the left tackle.
I think that should be like in soccer where

Speaker 4 the striker gets number 10. Nine.

Speaker 4 Number nine? Nine. Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 No, 10 is the attacking midfielder kind of guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was totally. Don't try to correct us.
Who's number seven?

Speaker 4 Number seven, that's a defensive midfielder.

Speaker 3 No, that's like a winger. That's Ronaldo.

Speaker 4 Oh, I was thinking Jürgen Klinsma.

Speaker 1 What is Messi wear?

Speaker 3 Messi wears 10. Oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 The goat? Yeah. So we're right.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 But he's not a striker.

Speaker 1 Well, he strikes.

Speaker 4 What does Pusilic wear?

Speaker 1 You don't know when he's going to strike.

Speaker 3 Pulisich, I don't know what he's wearing with A.C. Milan.

Speaker 1 What did David Beckham wear? Seven.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck, shit.

Speaker 1 It's stupid. Who cares about soccer anyway?

Speaker 4 By the way, when you said competitive advantage, do you see the Arizona Cardinals? They're declining to name a starter for a competitive advantage against the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 4 So we're either going to get Josh Dobbs or Clayton Toon.

Speaker 1 You don't know which one to prepare for.

Speaker 1 I think Clayton Toon's a good player.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 3 It's going to be tough to game plan for the Cardinals without knowing who their quarterback is.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's one of those where you see it from an NFL coach, like every year there's a new coach, and you're like, that guy's not ready for the NFL.

Speaker 3 No, no, that team is clearly trying to get the first pick. They want Caleb Williams more than anything else.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they didn't they,

Speaker 4 the way that they handled Hopkins' contract, I think they could have just waited a couple days and cut him. And instead, they just said, no, we'll cut him down.
We'll just eat $11 million.

Speaker 3 You know, we got to use our cap space somehow. That's really what they're doing.
There's a cap floor. You have to spend a certain amount of money.
That team is in tank mode.

Speaker 3 I just watched the Bears do it last year. so I know the move.

Speaker 1 All right, so let's talk Big Ten. I have a take.

Speaker 1 Top to bottom, Big Ten, strongest conference?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 1 But just, yes, just say yes.

Speaker 3 Yeah, for sure. But no.

Speaker 1 All right, so maybe not top to bottom, but I do think Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan all could conceivably be in the college football playoff.

Speaker 1 And then you have, you know, Iowa's always going to be good. Wisconsin could have a very good year with Luke Fickle changing everything.
There's some salty teams in the Big Ten

Speaker 1 that will keep it, you know, the floor isn't just like falling out after like the top three teams.

Speaker 3 I do think you're right. At the top, I mean, Ohio State and Michigan, we know what they're going to be.
Michigan's won the last couple years.

Speaker 3 Ohio State is still Ohio State, reached the playoff last year in eight down season. And then Penn State, I do think this is their best chance to win the Big Ten in a long time.

Speaker 3 Now, the problem is, I still don't think they're as good as Michigan or Ohio State, but they do have a quarterback Drew Alar is. I mean, Sean Clifford didn't get a ton of respect.

Speaker 3 He was drafted by the Packers, so it's not like he sucked, but he's, you look at the quarterbacks, and he was always the kind of guy.

Speaker 3 You look at like, you know, Ohio State's with Justin Fields and C.J. Strouds and all these NFL first-round picks.
Michigan didn't really have the five-star, but they've had good players.

Speaker 3 Penn State, I felt like, was the one team that was trying to convince itself that it was a national title contender while playing with a jagged quarterback, you know, just a guy.

Speaker 3 But I think Alar is the first guy really, I mean, McSorley was not ultra talented, but he had the moxie.

Speaker 3 I think Alar is the kind of guy who has that kind of attitude, but he's also really fucking good.

Speaker 3 So I think that could give them a step up because you look at the rest of that roster, their offensive line is fantastic. They have great running backs.
They've got talented receiver.

Speaker 3 The defense is phenomenal. So if Alar clicks, that is a team that could win the East.
It could win the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 And they have the benefit of playing Michigan at home and Ohio State. They have to play in Columbus, but they always play Ohio State tough.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they give Ohio State, I mean, until the last couple years, obviously, but even then, it's like Penn State, even when they're bad, they step up and they gave Ohio State more problems in like the last decade than Michigan was for most of the parts.

Speaker 3 So now, obviously, Michigan's taken over that role, but Penn State can't beat Michigan, though. That's the problem.
It's like when they play, they usually get the shit kicked out of it by Michigan.

Speaker 3 But no, I think

Speaker 3 my prediction was those three teams are all going 11-1.

Speaker 3 They're going to split the series with each other.

Speaker 3 Like, the home team's going to win every single one of those games, and it's going to come down to some weird draconian tiebreaker in the Big Ten bylaws to decide who wins the division.

Speaker 3 But I do think because of that, there's a very good shot that, once again, the Big Ten will get two teams into the playoff. It'll be whoever wins the East and whoever finishes in second.

Speaker 1 They should just make the tiebreaker whoever puts up more points on Rutgers.

Speaker 3 I think we did some research into this. I think it goes to the team that had the best schedule, like the win-loss of

Speaker 3 their non-whatever opponents. And I do think, like, I can't remember who drew like Northwestern.
I think it was Penn State.

Speaker 3 They're fucked because of that because Northwestern's probably not going to win a big time game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 1 What about the West? Are you buying the Badgers? Are you buying the Dairy Raid?

Speaker 3 I buy the Badgers long term.

Speaker 1 I don't. That was hurtful what you just said.

Speaker 3 I know, Booster Cat, you went out and you bought a whole lot of players for your Badgers.

Speaker 3 You went out and you bought Luke Fickle, but I just think that what he's going to do with Phil Longo coming in, and I know that it gets overblown, like they're going to run the air raid, the Dairy Raid.

Speaker 3 But like when Phil Longo was at North Carolina, there were seasons where the Tar Heels had two running backs backs who rushed for a thousand yards.

Speaker 3 It's not like he doesn't know how to run the football. They're not going to be throwing it 80 times a game.

Speaker 3 But my only concern is to go from the transition of what Wisconsin always has been to what they're trying to be, even in the transfer portal era, it's really hard to do that in one offseason.

Speaker 3 So I think there are going to be growing pains. I think defensively, they might take a slight step back because, you know, Jim Leonard's gone.
He's at Illinois now.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you're aware of that picture.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 4 He's a Wisconsin guy though.

Speaker 3 No, no, he turns out he's an Illinois guy now.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 4 Because I thought he was going to be the next head coach.

Speaker 3 That's what I was told, too. But, you know, enjoy the cat.

Speaker 1 Mr. Kat stabbed him in the back.
Well,

Speaker 1 as soon as Kirk Ference finishes his 80-year contract, Brett Pielma, what does he have tattooed on his ankle? An Iowa Hawkeye. Oh, interesting.
Okay. So there you go.

Speaker 3 He didn't seem to care when he was winning Big Ten titles at Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, he was there for a little bit of time. Now you got your best coach ever.

Speaker 3 Brett said at Big Ten Media Days,

Speaker 3 he's finishing.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's never said that before.

Speaker 3 No, he's never going to leave. No coach has ever said, this is my dream job, and I'm here forever.

Speaker 1 I've made amends with Pielma. I like him again.
There was a time when I was not so happy because, you know, the whole like karma thing and,

Speaker 1 you know, it hurt me. But now I'm cool with him.

Speaker 3 I love him because he's made Illinois good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But no, but back to Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 I think that. I think long-term Fickles are fantastic hire for them.
I think that they are going to win a fuck ton of games with him there because I think Luke Fickle is a very good coach.

Speaker 3 I mean, he got Cincinnati to the playoff, and then that team had nine players taken in the NFL draft. He knows what he's doing.
He's seen the blueprint.

Speaker 3 And I've seen people use like the sixth and sixth year at Ohio State where he was like the interim and they had a bunch of people suspended because of dumb penalties as like a, oh, he can't win in the Big Ten.

Speaker 3 He'll be fine.

Speaker 3 I just think that this year, Wisconsin's probably more likely to be eight and four than it is 10 and two or 11 and one.

Speaker 1 So I think

Speaker 1 nine wins is what I would like. That'd be fun.
I think if you win nine games, it was a very good year. But I like Iowa.

Speaker 3 I know it is fun to shit on Iowa for the offense,

Speaker 3 but like it wasn't that long ago. It was the 2020 season when Iowa scored 32 points per game.
It's not like this is something that has not been happening for Iowa for a long time.

Speaker 3 It's the last couple of years they had a terrible quarterback who could not do anything.

Speaker 3 Like I don't think there was anything schematically that Brian Ference was doing that kept Iowa from scoring points. They just didn't have the dudes.

Speaker 4 So what's it going to be? Is it going to be, is Iowa going to finish with a higher points per game total or higher ranking in the top 25 at the end of the season? Both.

Speaker 3 I think that this is, I mean, they're going to score. I'm on record.
They're going to score 31 points per game, and I think they're.

Speaker 1 31. Yeah.
I guess if you put in a punt return and a punt,

Speaker 1 no, the defense is totally going to play a part in that.

Speaker 4 Tom, they finished with 18.6 points per game last year.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck. Go look at 2020.
They scored 32 points per game. I also don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 There was great betting on Iowa last year, being like, all right, if I'm laying a number, I know they need to score on defense or special teams. And then they would.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Iowa, the years it has a decent quarterback and a tight end and a receiver it scores points so what do they go out in the portal they get cade mcnamara from michigan who helped get them to the college football playoff a couple years ago they get eric all a very talented pass catching tight end who maybe he's not the the george kittle type of blocking tight ends that iowa is used to but he can you know contribute in the passing game and you get caleb brown a transfer wide receiver who couldn't get on the field at ohio state because you know they've got an nfl roster at ohio state but is a very talented player himself they have talent at the skill position that they haven't had in three years you didn't mention the fullback the fullback too, of course.

Speaker 4 What's his name? Hayden Large?

Speaker 4 Yeah, 6'5,

Speaker 1 300 pounds.

Speaker 4 Actually, Donald Trump is built like Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 What a name.

Speaker 1 He's 6'3, 215. But

Speaker 3 I think they're going to be fine. I think they're going to score a bunch of points, and I think they're going to win the West.
I think they are the best team.

Speaker 3 They're the one I have the fewest questions about.

Speaker 4 Interesting. Damn it.
I did not see it going that way.

Speaker 1 That hurts.

Speaker 1 They have to play Wisconsin and Madison. Yeah, that wasn't a problem for most teams last year.
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 I don't like it.

Speaker 1 you have one good year i'm just saying we're a full

Speaker 3 and it's like you know what were you before uh we were a basketball school trying to be a basketball

Speaker 1 school at one point a basketball school what's james madison like a rush we won the sun belt last year you remember that tom no i didn't got a pizza party

Speaker 4 give a huge pizza party give me a fun belt preview 10 seconds or less

Speaker 3 It's fun. James Madison is going to be good.
App State is going to be good. South Alabama is still going to be good.

Speaker 1 And time.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 How's your fun belt? You keep going. Fun Belt is awesome.

Speaker 3 No, it's a very fun conference.

Speaker 1 And I'm on the record.

Speaker 3 I mean, especially now that teams have left the AAC, like the AAC loses Cincinnati, UCF, and

Speaker 3 Houston to the Big 12.

Speaker 3 I think the Sun Belt's going to be the best G5 concert within or concert conference within the next 10 years because it's the same thing as the SEC.

Speaker 3 All the football and population growth moving towards the Southeast is kind of growing that conference as far as talent-wise, because they're getting a lot of the, you know, know, quote-unquote leftovers that the SEC leaves behind.

Speaker 3 And there's just a buy-in from all the schools about wanting their football programs to be good. It's not like we were, you know, they didn't add Rutgers because of cable boxes.

Speaker 3 They added James Madison because they gave a shit about football and want to play football. So I think long-term, Sunbelt's going to be the best G5 league.

Speaker 4 So, do you think that the Sun Belt is going to be better than the ACC again this year?

Speaker 3 It could be.

Speaker 1 I mean, the ACC is three teams and then a whole lot of, I don't know.

Speaker 1 So, Tom, when we were sitting outside before we started this interview, I mentioned that I was going to Tuscaloosa for Texas, Alabama, week two, the college football show.

Speaker 1 Barcelona College Football Show. We'll be there.
I don't know if I'm breaking news, but that is we will be there. And Tom just whispered, Texas is going to win that game.
They are.

Speaker 1 So, Big 12, Texas, it's the year. It is.

Speaker 3 We have to do our predictions at the beginning of every season on CBSports.com. And I was asked for the most underrated team in the country.
And I chose Texas.

Speaker 3 And it felt really fucked up to think of Texas as being underrated because it is perpetually overrated every single year. But I really do think this year's Longhorns team is going to be very good.

Speaker 3 Like they are, I've got them winning the Big 12. I got them in the college football playoff picture.

Speaker 3 They're not anywhere near good enough to win a national title, but they could be like, you know, the TCU of the world and get to the playoff because they've got Quinn Ewers at quarterback, who we saw last year in Austin, they nearly beat Alabama until Ewers got hurt and went down.

Speaker 3 And they still hung tight in that game. And Alabama still needed a last-minute field goal to come back and win it.
I think they've improved the overall talent depth of that roster.

Speaker 3 I think Ewers gives them a much higher ceiling.

Speaker 3 And if you're looking at Alabama and Texas, like Quinn Ewers versus, I don't know, Jalen Milro, that seems like a huge advantage in Texas' favor in that matchup, even in Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 3 So I think talent-wise, they've done a very good job of building that roster where they're closer on par with the SEC teams that they're going to be competing with in the future.

Speaker 3 And I think they have a huge quarterback advantage over most teams that they're going to play. And in this sport, that goes a long way.

Speaker 4 You are in direct opposition with Andy Staples on that. I think you said they're the most overrated.

Speaker 3 Well, he's a Twitch streamer.

Speaker 1 What is it? Who cares what Andy fixes? Wait, so who else, if not Texas, then who? Because the Big 12 is,

Speaker 1 it feels like it's fun every single year. I'm actually happy with the whole conference realignment.
It feels like the Big 12 will continue to be fun with the teams they added.

Speaker 1 But Kansas State was great last year. Baylor was good last year.

Speaker 1 You have, like, there's these teams that people don't really expect, and it's just a hard conference to play.

Speaker 3 Two things can be true. One is that the Big 12 is really fun, because, like, especially last year, nobody in that league was like, there was no gap.
There was no top-tier team.

Speaker 3 Everybody was close enough to where week by week, you're going to have a ton of fun games, and anybody can be that team.

Speaker 3 But still, TCU played eight one-score games. It's not like they were blowing the doors off the teams.

Speaker 3 But the other part of that is true is that Oklahoma and Texas were mediocre last year. They kind of did not live up to their expectations, which allowed the rest of the league to kind of step up.

Speaker 3 I don't know if Oklahoma is going to have a big bounce back year.

Speaker 3 I think they're going to be better than they were last year, but I do think Texas, if there is an elite team in that conference this year, it is Texas.

Speaker 3 But I agree with you in that between TCU, who I think just naturally has to kind of come back to earth a little bit because besides of everything that they lost, like I said, they played a lot of one-score games.

Speaker 3 We'll never forget that crazy two-minute drill to get the field goal against Baylor to win where they're scrambling on the field with no timeouts and they get the kickoff and they make it.

Speaker 3 I think Baylor is still going to be good. Kansas State is just a very well-coached team that doesn't do stupid shit.
And if you can do that in college football, you're going to win plenty of games.

Speaker 3 I don't think Kansas last year was a fluke. I look at that league.
I think having Cincinnati, UCF, Houston, and BYU coming in,

Speaker 3 they are probably going to struggle a little bit, but I don't think the gap between them and the rest of that league is significant enough to where they won't be able to win some games.

Speaker 3 The only team I look at in the Big 12 that I have serious concerns about the bottom falling out is West Virginia because they come in with their coaches already on the hot seat.

Speaker 3 They have a very tough non-conference. They start the year with Penn State.
They get pit.

Speaker 3 Like, that's a team that could lose three or four of its first games, and then you fire the coach, and then you go to the interim, and then everybody just kind of quits, and then everything bottoms out.

Speaker 3 So when I look at the Big 12 as a whole, I think Texas is the best team, and I think West Virginia is the only team with a chance to be terrible.

Speaker 4 Okay. All right.

Speaker 4 What about future Big 12 team, Colorado? Our boy Deion.

Speaker 4 I know what people are saying nationally about Deion. There's a big conversation about him.
Where should the expectations be be for Colorado this year?

Speaker 3 If Colorado gets to a bowl game, Deion should get a lifetime extension for winning that program.

Speaker 3 Because here's the thing, there's been a ton of attention about what he's done in the transfer portal, bringing all these guys in.

Speaker 3 And he's got Shadur, his son at quarterback, who was very good at Jackson State. We have not seen him play at this level yet, but he's a talented player, so that's important to have.

Speaker 3 The quarterback's most important position. You get Travis Hunter, who is a phenomenal player at any level.

Speaker 3 I know it looked like he was playing a different sport than most of the kids he was facing last year.

Speaker 3 He is a genuine two-way threat, kind of like Deion, where he's going to be the best corner on the field, and he might be Colorado's best receiver, too.

Speaker 3 And so they have very talented players, but they just don't have the depth yet. And my concern for Colorado is its offensive line and its defensive line.

Speaker 3 I don't know if they have enough guys there yet to really compete in the Pac-12 because while the Pac-12, the bottom of the conference is pretty soft and they might be able to find some wiggle room to pick up a few wins down there, the top of that league is still pretty good.

Speaker 3 They don't have an elite team, but they have a lot of of very good teams. And they have, like, like Utah.

Speaker 3 If you look at Utah, just beating the shit out of people the last few years and punch people in the mouth, they're going to crush a Colorado.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 An Oregon state, a Washington state, Arizona, Arizona state, Colorado could compete with those teams. So it's going to be a case of how healthy do they stay.

Speaker 3 If they don't suffer a bunch of injuries, as long as Travis Hunter's playing, as long as Shader Sanders is playing, they can flirt with going six and six, five and seven.

Speaker 3 But I think they're far more likely to win three or four games. So the Dion

Speaker 3 debate conversation is never going to die die down as long as he's there.

Speaker 3 And he's either like, there's going to be, if they go three and nine, there's going to be way too much of a pushback and say, see, I told you this wouldn't work.

Speaker 3 But the truth is, for the rebuild kind of thing that they're taking on, you need to give him three years before you can really judge whether it's working.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I want to see Ralphie run somebody over. That's what I want to say.
I want to see some spark out of Ralphie the Buffalo.

Speaker 3 Those cowboys that bring him out, I just sit there. I do.
I watch.

Speaker 1 It's like, come on, trample. Yeah, that's what Ruby gets.

Speaker 4 Anytime they bring out

Speaker 4 the boomer schooner, I want to see that thing fall over. I want to see Ralphie the Buffalo run over some cheerleaders.
That's what college football is about.

Speaker 1 It's about

Speaker 1 put him on the sideline.

Speaker 3 Just have him next to the opponent.

Speaker 3 Well, they should have her on the opponent's sideline, just intimidating the shit out of him.

Speaker 3 Because imagine you're standing there trying to watch a football game and there's a Buffalo standing two feet behind you just snorting.

Speaker 1 You're going to be kind of nervous. It'd be great.
So the Pac-12, though, in hole, is going to be like the top is going to be very strong. They have a ton of great quarterbacks coming back.

Speaker 1 Kale Williams, Michael Peenix, Bo Nicks, Cam Rising, Cam Ward.

Speaker 1 Can the Pac-12 finally stop cannibalizing themselves and maybe get into the college football playoff before we go to a 12 team and then we just forget that the Pac-12 just never had a team for like 10 years?

Speaker 3 Yes, it's possible. The problem is that you look at those Pac-12 teams and all of them, like obviously every team has a weakness, but I mean, they all have significant weaknesses at certain spots.

Speaker 3 Like with me with USC, I already mentioned earlier, like that defense from what I saw against San Jose State last week, a lot of the same problems that existed last year are still there.

Speaker 3 They do not tackle well. When they get pressure on a quarterback or in the backfield, they're great.
If they don't, they get torn apart.

Speaker 1 Who does Alex Crinch have Blackmail on?

Speaker 3 I don't know. I mean, him and Lincoln are just boys.

Speaker 1 Everyone talks about Alex Crinch. We all have that friend to tackle.

Speaker 3 We all have that friend who we know we shouldn't be hanging out with, but we're just kind of ride or die with him anyway. And it's like, that's our boy.
We're just sticking to him.

Speaker 3 That's like your Jake. So that's kind of Alex Crinch to Lincoln Riley, I guess, because I do feel like the one thing that has kept Lincoln Riley from winning a national title is a defense.

Speaker 3 It just keeps bringing Grinch back every year and every year. It's saying, this will work, this will work.
Maybe it finally will. I'm still skeptical.
It was the first game of the season.

Speaker 3 You don't want to read too much into it. Washington is fantastic.
Michael Pennix has a rocket arm. They've got two very good receivers.

Speaker 3 But my concern is Michael Pennix has had injury problems in the past. If he goes down, I think there's not, I don't know what's behind that.

Speaker 3 I think that's a team whose season could be derailed by one injury. Oregon, Bo Nix is Bo Nix.

Speaker 4 Heisman.

Speaker 1 He's looking really good. This is the year.

Speaker 3 But Bo Nix, like, he was very consistent last year, and it's the first time in his career that he's been consistent. Can he be consistent again for another year? I don't know.

Speaker 3 I think their secondary is very sketchy. Defensively, they're kind of, they remind me of USC in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 They're going to be having to win a lot of 45 to 40 games, which they're capable of doing, but it's hard to do that week in and week out. And Utah, is Cam Rising healthy.

Speaker 3 He tore his ACL late last season. We don't know what his status truly is for this week's game against Florida.
They need him.

Speaker 3 And also defensively, they kind of, like last year, they're getting punched in the mouth a lot more than you're used to seeing Utah get punched in the mouth.

Speaker 3 Like they gave up a lot of big plays in the run game. They weren't as physical.
Can they get back to being that?

Speaker 3 If they do, they are, once again, my favorite to win that conference because they're just the most complete team.

Speaker 4 Okay. Caleb Williams.
Give me a reason why I should doubt him.

Speaker 3 You shouldn't.

Speaker 4 I want to doubt him so bad.

Speaker 4 Fingernails.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's not a team guy. He paints on his fingernails.
I mean, who's the last quarterback to win a Super Bowl with painted fingernails?

Speaker 4 Nobody.

Speaker 3 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Never happened.

Speaker 3 So, no, Caleb Williams is the real fucking deal. Like, it's, I, everybody, you know, you do the bit with, you know, Mahomes makes this throw, everybody goes nuts.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Everybody, when there's a great quarterback compares all the college quarterbacks to this guy's the next Mahomes. Caleb Williams is the only one I've seen who actually plays like Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Check downs. Yes, he's a checkdown already.

Speaker 3 But like he scrambles around, he makes ridiculously stupid throws.

Speaker 3 Like against San Jose State the other day, there was the one where he drops the snap, he picks it up, he takes one step to his right, and without taking a step forward, launches the ball in the air 50 yards down the field on a dime to his receiver for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 People can't do that.

Speaker 3 Like that was just insane. But you also see when he scrambles around, like Mahomes, he's not looking to run.

Speaker 3 He just kind of moves around and he's always constantly looking downfield, waiting for one of the really talented players he has at receiver to finally break free of the defense.

Speaker 3 And then no matter what direction he's moving or what position he is in, he can fire the ball on a dime to every single part of the field. And it is truly incredible to watch.

Speaker 3 It's why I think he's the best player in college. It's why I think he'll be the first pick in the draft.

Speaker 3 And it's why I think he's going to be the first guy to win the Heisman in a consecutive year since Archie Griffin.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Boltakes.

Speaker 4 I like that. Who else you got in the Heisman finals?

Speaker 3 Right now, I would say quinn ewers has a shot to get there i think bone nicks is going to get there if he has the same kind of season he had last year and then there's always the guy who kind of comes out of nowhere i i don't maybe jj mccarthy if michigan wins a third straight big 10 it could be whoever ends up being oh state's quarterback which we again we don't know yet it's going to be uh

Speaker 3 i think devin brown or uh what the hell is the other kid's name who i can't remember mccord kyle mccord so

Speaker 3 They could be in the picture. Marvin Harrison Jr.
will be in the picture, but it's such a quarterback award.

Speaker 3 Like I know Devontae Smith won a couple of years ago, but it is still, by and large, so many Heisman voters aren't really like watching every game week in and week out.

Speaker 4 Do you have a Heisman vote?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 That's what started our rivalry, by the way, with this

Speaker 3 guy over here. The first time you mentioned I had a Heisman vote on the show, his response was, that guy has a Heisman vote?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, because he thought that you were a cartoon dog. Exactly.

Speaker 3 Yes, I do have a Heisman vote, so I can speak that.

Speaker 4 They gave Ignatius J. Riley a Heisman vote?

Speaker 1 Can we get you to give your Heisman vote right now?

Speaker 3 No, I can't. I'm actually not legally allowed to say who I vote for until after the awards.

Speaker 1 Okay, legally. Before you said, no matter what, I'm voting Brock Bowers.

Speaker 1 And I was like, really? A tight end?

Speaker 3 Yeah, for sure. I love Brock Bowers.
He's actually, he'll get Heisman hype. I don't know if he'll actually deserve it, but he will get plenty of Heisman hype for it.

Speaker 3 But yeah, I think, I mean, there's lots of dudes who are going to step forward and have really big years. So it's hard to say who's going to win it.

Speaker 3 But I think the trunk card that Caleb Williams has is what gets held against guys when they win it the first time and come back is they get held up to a standard that they haven't even achieved themselves yet.

Speaker 3 It's like, well, you did this last year. Why haven't you done this?

Speaker 3 Caleb Williams is going to put up the same kind of numbers he did last year, but the one trump card he has left is that USC didn't win the Pac-12 and get to the playoff.

Speaker 3 So if they do both of those things this year and he has the same kind of season and he's the reason for doing it and USC is back.

Speaker 3 That's going to get him enough votes from the casual Heisman voters who don't really watch or follow the sport.

Speaker 4 Okay, okay.

Speaker 4 Give me one team outside of the power conferences, one team that we're going to see hanging around the top 10 at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 Tulane will still be there. I think they are, you know, Michael Pratt coming back was huge.

Speaker 3 There were a bunch of teams after him in the transfer portal just throwing money at him, and he decided to stay at Tulane, and I think that's very good for the Greenwave.

Speaker 3 And I think this is going to be a kind of a renaissance season for Boise State.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I like their quarterback, Taylor Green, a lot.

Speaker 3 I think that in the Mountain West, they have a very good shot to kind of run the table in there and have a very good season and therefore be in that kind of playoff picture all season long.

Speaker 3 So if I have to pick two G5s right now, I I would go to Lane and Boise.

Speaker 1 Ooh,

Speaker 1 nothing pissed me off more than I listen, week zero, I usually just bet whatever and I don't look into anything.

Speaker 1 When I had a significant amount of money on Louisiana Tech and realized that I bet on Hank Bachmeier, I was like, what the fuck? Yes. This guy again?

Speaker 3 They played FIU, whose quarterback completed five passes for four yards, and Louisiana Tech still didn't take their first lead of that game until there was a minute left. left.

Speaker 1 Man, that sucks always that line.

Speaker 1 Every week zero better season. Yeah, every week zero, I'm like, fuck, this guy, damn it.

Speaker 3 The transfer portal really does kind of fuck things up because there are, it's like, I'll turn in, you know, it's like, it's hard to follow all 133 teams closely, and it's like, I'll turn it on in the first Saturday or second Saturday of the season.

Speaker 3 I'm like, what the fuck is this dude playing for this season?

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 3 it changes things quite a bit.

Speaker 4 Talk to me about Notre Dame real quick. Are we waking up the echoes? No.
No, but I mean, that's pretty much it. It's pretty impressive performance.

Speaker 3 It was a very impressive performance. And Sam Hartman is a huge upgrade over what they had at quarterback last year.
There's no denying that.

Speaker 3 I think they're better at the receiver position, which was a problem for me with them last year. They just had no explosive plays outside the numbers.

Speaker 3 It was all throw to Michael Mayer over the middle and see if he can break a tackle.

Speaker 4 You didn't have Pine Cohn as their quarterback. Star Drew Pine,

Speaker 4 an amazing moment for the punsters out there.

Speaker 3 But, I mean, the thing that's holding Notre Dame back is its schedule. Like, they have to play Ohio State.
They have to play Clemson. They have to play USC.

Speaker 3 They're not getting through all those games without losing at least one, if not two of them, even though two of them are at home.

Speaker 3 And then you have other tough games like NC State is going to be a tough game. Duke on the road is going to be, they're going to win, but it's going to be a tougher game.
So

Speaker 3 it's really hard for them to get through that schedule and think they're going to get back to the playoff this year. They kind of made things a little too difficult to themselves.

Speaker 1 So you mentioned Clemson, the ACC, the Forgotten Conference.

Speaker 1 Is Clemson,

Speaker 1 are they going to write the ship? Because Dabo,

Speaker 1 he's on my hot seat.

Speaker 1 He's on my hot seat. Got him on a hot seat? He's on the hot seat.

Speaker 3 What do you think has to happen for Dabo to get fired?

Speaker 1 10-win season. Actually, suppose he quit.

Speaker 1 Well, last year they had the most disappointing 10-win season of all time.

Speaker 4 True, they did. He told us he would quit once college players started to get paid.

Speaker 3 It's true. He has since turned, you know, he has rectified that statement and says, you know what, it's not so bad.
But

Speaker 3 I do think Clemson's in a very good spot in that there has been so much attention and hype on Florida State during the offseason that it's allowing Clemson to fly under the radar, which is a very weird thing to say about Clemson because they have dominated that league for the last decade for the most part.

Speaker 3 So, I do think, like, getting rid of DJU was probably a good thing for them.

Speaker 1 Stop saying it that way. Luyungale.
There we go.

Speaker 3 Um, but I think they just kind of had to move on. I think that made things too awkward.
You know, he was supposed to be the next great Clemson QB, and it didn't work out.

Speaker 3 And they were just kind of playing him out of loyalty.

Speaker 1 It was a Notre Dame game. I think there was a game.
That was the best game I've ever seen play.

Speaker 1 He was insane.

Speaker 4 They're also just afraid of his dad.

Speaker 1 I think Dabo was like, this guy's good kids.

Speaker 3 But I think, you know, like, they also had the transition last year of the one thing that Clemson has had through all these years is they've kind of had, you know, continuity at the coordinator positions.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 they lost Tony Elliott to Virginia. Jeff Scott had left for USF.
And then Brent Venables leaves to go take over the Oklahoma job. So it's a lot of guys in new positions for the first time.

Speaker 3 And the one thing about Daboo is like the same reason he's too loyal to DJ, he's too loyal to his guys at times, and they don't change things up. Like they were too predictable, too stale.

Speaker 3 You talk to other ACC coaches, and they would just straight up tell you the only reason they can beat us is they have more talent than us.

Speaker 3 We know exactly what they're doing every single play, like just based on their alignment. We know what's coming at us.
They're just better than us, and they'll beat us.

Speaker 3 But that caught up to him last year when they didn't have Trevor Lawrence or a Deshaun Watson at quarterback. So this year, Cade Klubnick, the jury is still out.

Speaker 3 I think he's pretty talented, but I think the most important thing they did was they got Garrett Riley, who is Lincoln's younger brother. He was the offensive coordinator at TCU last year.

Speaker 3 He's coming in. So they're finally making the changes on offense that Clemson fans and I think the general national media have been saying they need to make for a few years now.

Speaker 3 I think that's going to be a huge boost to them. I think they're going to have a very solid season, and I do think it'll be between them and Florida State.

Speaker 3 So that's probably got to be one of the game of the years. Whoever wins that Clemson Florida State game is going to win that league.

Speaker 1 Is there anyone else in the ACC that we have to worry about? I mean, Drake May is obviously going to be a top five pick.

Speaker 3 Drake May is very good. I don't think North Carolina is very good.

Speaker 3 And I don't think Drake May is good enough to paper over North Carolina's deficiencies everywhere else on that roster because like defensively, they've been a mess for a long time.

Speaker 3 And I don't think they've fixed anything enough this offseason to think that that's going to improve. So they're going to have to win a lot of 45, 42 games, which Drake May is capable of doing.
But

Speaker 3 when you get run into Clemson and Florida State and you run into the good teams, you're in trouble. I think NC State is a team that too many people are sleeping on.

Speaker 3 I think they've got a very good defensive line, and I think that they've been very consistent over the years. So they're probably still going to be good.

Speaker 3 Louisville people are hyping hyping up because they have a ridiculously easy schedule, and it is ridiculously easy. And they do also have the homecoming factor of Jeff Braum coming back.

Speaker 3 But I just don't think they're that good. I think Scott Satterfield,

Speaker 3 he got a lot of hate from Louisville fans, some of which was deserved, some of which I just think was... people being mad at the coach because that's what you do when your team's not winning games.

Speaker 1 He did say also, like, his favorite part about Louisville is it's 15 minutes away from the airport.

Speaker 3 And he's too honest. Like, that is the one thing about Satterfield.
He said he loved the airport line.

Speaker 3 And then he also said when he interviewed for the south carolina job he's like yeah i interviewed for the south carolina it's like why would you tell the fan base that but anyways that's that's something he had to live and learn from so i think they're going to be good but i don't think i think the acc for the most part it is a two-team league and there's other good teams like i should mention pitt another good team in that league but there's once you get past florida state and clemson it's just a bunch of like you know citrus bowl kind of teams right so give me your final four and then give me one team that the entire fan base is going to be pissed off at you for not including in the final four.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's easy.

Speaker 3 Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, USC, and Alabama is going to be pissed at me for not putting them in the playoff because I don't even think, like, we had, for our predictions, it was like we had to put in our top four and then the first two out.

Speaker 3 I didn't even have Alabama in the first two out.

Speaker 1 Oh, who were your first two out?

Speaker 3 LSU and

Speaker 3 Texas.

Speaker 4 Sabin probably loves you now, actually.

Speaker 4 Sabin loves the disrespect. You're getting to the future.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look, Tom Ferrelli, this cartoon dog. I hope I'm on the lock.

Speaker 4 You were the biggest purveyor of rat poison in the past, and now you're just not giving him any respect whatsoever.

Speaker 3 I don't think Nick Saban knows I exist, to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 Do you think Nick Saban has

Speaker 4 recognized your name?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 I don't think Nick Saban. I think Nick Saban is

Speaker 3 more in tune with the media than he wants you to believe because he is on ESPN at the end of the year doing their playoff games when Alabama's not in.

Speaker 1 It's so pathetic.

Speaker 3 But I don't think he, like outside of the local people that cover Alabama and maybe some of the big-name reporters.

Speaker 4 There's the Weather Channel guys, too.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Yeah, the weather channel guys. I don't think Nick knows too many like other national people outside Venezuela.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you probably didn't. Hey, Hank, who's your top four?

Speaker 1 USC.

Speaker 1 Wisconsin. Oh.
Oh. LSU.
Oh.

Speaker 3 James Madison?

Speaker 1 He's thinking.

Speaker 4 This is a big thing. This is really.
This is very important. He wants to get this right.

Speaker 1 Penn State.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 3 I like Penn State.

Speaker 1 That would be a hell of a Final Four.

Speaker 3 My colleague at CBS Sports, Dennis Dodd's Final Four was Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love it.

Speaker 1 I was like, Dennis, I have no idea how that plays out. And then if Georgia wins, then it's.
Yeah, like, are we going to throw all three of them at the same time at him? Just motion Big Ten.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just a gauntlet.

Speaker 4 Is there a game that I know that

Speaker 4 they released the Lions for week one, and you probably saw one game that you were like, I cannot wait.

Speaker 3 Texas Tech minus 14 against Wyoming.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yep. All right.
We're on it.

Speaker 4 How many units?

Speaker 1 I went full.

Speaker 3 I mean, go as many as you're comfortable going, but it's game of the year territory for me.

Speaker 4 Game of the year. I'm going to bet on it right now before the masses here.
You're probably going to move the line tomorrow.

Speaker 1 No, I don't take game of the year as lightly.

Speaker 3 No, I'm just saying, I'm not saying make it a game of the year, but I'm saying that's how confident.

Speaker 1 No, you said game of the year.

Speaker 4 You said you would make it a game of the year.

Speaker 3 That's how confident I am in the pick. I just, I think that line is a little short.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. By about a touchdown.

Speaker 4 Game of the year. That line's going to move.
I got to get on it now.

Speaker 1 Game of the year.

Speaker 4 If this misses, Tom,

Speaker 3 I have Texas Tech minus 14. I also have Texas Tech alternate lines at minus 20.
So I'm feeling pretty good about this one.

Speaker 4 All right. What about week one NFL?

Speaker 1 Who's Buffalo playing?

Speaker 3 They're minus two and a half.

Speaker 4 The Jets. The Jets.

Speaker 3 I like Buffalo minus two and a half. The Jets are getting way too much respect.

Speaker 1 I agree with. We were talking in the car, and I obviously bet the Jets for my ghost pick, which I don't expect to do anything, but I had to do it because the ghost told me to pick it.

Speaker 1 The Bills are a weird team where their last game that we all remember, the Bengals game, was atrocious. But they went 13 and 3 last year, and their three losses were all by like two points.

Speaker 1 And it's like, wait, this team is still really fucking good. We just saw them have their worst possible moment as their last game of the year.

Speaker 3 And I mean,

Speaker 3 I do think the Jets are going to be better this year.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at that. He gave little memes.
Keep memes away. Memes will meme you to death.
You know what he's been doing to Max? You've seen it.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's if there's any crimes in Illinois, memes will have your face on it.

Speaker 3 We said before the show, Max is a very memeable face. You can fit him into a lot of criminals.

Speaker 4 Memes is obsessed with Max.

Speaker 3 I think the Jets are going to be better because they have, you know, really talented receivers and they have that quarterback.

Speaker 3 But I just think week one, when Aaron Rodgers has hardly played at all in the preseason, going up against a Buffalo team that clearly has a lot that it's playing for and has a lot of experience playing together, Buffalo should.

Speaker 1 Are you going to flip with me and just be like Aaron Rodgers never said a bad word about that guy? Oh, no, fuck Aaron Rodgers. Oh, you're staying with that.

Speaker 1 Aaron, if you're listening, fuck you.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't it be very funny if he was very successful with the Jets and the Packers fans? Like, he took less money. He wanted to get out of there.
If he was happy.

Speaker 3 If the Bears don't win the Super Bowl this year, the ideal scenario is the Jets beating the Packers in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Actually, I kind of agree with what Big Cat's saying that if Aaron Rodgers wins two Super Bowls with the Jets,

Speaker 4 that makes the entire Packers organization

Speaker 1 miserable. If he wins one in one year, and he won one in, what, 16 years? Well, I think

Speaker 4 when Peyton won one with the Broncos, I don't think everybody was like, wow, India's a clown show.

Speaker 4 I think if you win two with the new team, then it's like, oh, that first organization was holding him back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, but also Peyton had the, he went to two Super Bowls, so it's like, he'd have been at the Broncos. I'm saying this year.

Speaker 4 If he won it this year, it would be phenomenal.

Speaker 3 It would be hilarious. It wouldn't be phenomenal.
It would be hilarious. I would laugh about it, but I would not be happy.

Speaker 1 He'd go in as a jet.

Speaker 1 That, that.

Speaker 3 He'd wear that, actually, yes. If he goes into the Hall of Fame as a Jet, I will love Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 We always fuck this up. I don't think in Canton they go in as baseball.

Speaker 3 No, but if he says it on the podium,

Speaker 3 I'm going in.

Speaker 1 I'm a Jet.

Speaker 3 He has Woody Johnson introduce him. He's like, this is the greatest owner in NFL history.

Speaker 3 This is for all my Jets fans. That would be that.
I'll go on Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if he opens up his speech with J-E-T-S just.

Speaker 4 That would be great.

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Speaker 3 the florida utah game is one of the bigger games that's very interesting on thursday night but i also feel like week one overall is kind of soft it's not great but i would say that florida utah game has a chance to be very fun it might have a chance for overreactions like if florida plays well we might think they're a lot better than they are

Speaker 3 mertz i I mean, come on, imagine if he throws like four touchdowns with only one incompletion in the entire game. Could you? I think it was five.

Speaker 1 Was it? Yeah. Whatever.

Speaker 3 It was a long time ago. It was COVID.

Speaker 1 22 for 23. Memory's hazy.
Season didn't count.

Speaker 3 But I think that's an interesting game. I think the Penn State, West Virginia game could be very interesting, too, in that.

Speaker 3 West Virginia is, I mentioned them earlier, they have the chance to really bottom out. But more than anything, I want to see Penn State because West Virginia right now in week one will be a good team.

Speaker 3 I don't know if they'll still be a good team in week six. And I think it's a nice little test for Penn State.
And then obviously the LSU, Florida State game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have a pick there?

Speaker 3 Yeah, LSU money line. I'm not going to fuck with the spread in that one.
I'm just going to take the Tigers.

Speaker 4 It was a crazy game last year.

Speaker 3 And I just, I think the Tigers are a better overall team than Florida State. And I also think Florida State did a lot of work in the transfer portal during the offseason.

Speaker 3 So it's one of those things where it's a team that's used to playing together, playing a team with a lot of new guys who haven't fought together yet.

Speaker 3 And that can sometimes give somebody an advantage, even in a quote-unquote neutral site like Orlando.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 This has been great. Tom, you're the best.

Speaker 1 Any last thoughts for college football?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I

Speaker 1 go back to the BCS.

Speaker 3 I remember you once used to be on this side of the world.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, why not?

Speaker 3 Computers. Yeah, no, no, not that computer so much.
Although they're, you know, chat GPT, it's pretty smart AI.

Speaker 1 They can figure things out. Pick the best two teams.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and you just put the two best teams in there, and you don't spend the entire year talking about this nine-in-three team having a chance to make the playoff and whether they can win the national title.

Speaker 1 Oh, I do have one last question, because this is a good way to make money.

Speaker 1 Give me the worst team in each Power Five conference, because that usually, until you can really, like, until it settles into everyone's brain that this team is absolute garbage, you can usually win some money against them.

Speaker 3 Northwestern, I think, is too obvious, but they are the worst team in the Big Ten.

Speaker 3 The worst team in the Big 12, I think, right now I'd pick Houston, but by the end of the year, like I said, I think could be West Virginia, but I would bet against Houston early in the year.

Speaker 1 Would you rather be a good team

Speaker 4 at Northwestern, or would you rather have a strong moral compass? Because that's what we decided to do this offseason.

Speaker 4 We're going back to what made Northwestern great, which was sucking at football, but doing it honorably.

Speaker 3 Let's be honest, we're all dudes in this room. Like, you haven't spanked your friends, nude.
I mean, come on, let's do that.

Speaker 1 You haven't done the human loofah? No, I mean, come on.

Speaker 4 We used to do the stretch clap over Billy's head before every single day.

Speaker 1 It is great that Darren Revelle has to be the one who stands on a soapbox being like, hazing and bullying is fine.

Speaker 3 I think it is in certain instances.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 Let's see, the Pac-12, the worst team.

Speaker 3 God.

Speaker 1 Cal.

Speaker 3 Stanford.

Speaker 3 I don't think Stanford is going to be awful this year, but I think they probably more often than not end up as the worst team, and especially since they've got a new coach and a new offense early in the season, I would bet against them.

Speaker 3 The SEC, the worst team.

Speaker 1 Kind of tough. Vandy's not terrible.

Speaker 3 No, although Vandy, their offensive line worried me me a bit against that Hawaii game. But I'm going to go, and this is,

Speaker 3 this feels bad because it's not really their fault. I'm going to go Mississippi.
Brandon's not here, right?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 I'm going to go Mississippi State because you think of what they have to deal with in that it's not like they fired their coach. Their coach died.
And it's not something you can really game plan for.

Speaker 3 And then you don't go through the coaching search of finding his replacement. You just promote the defensive coordinator, Zach Arnett, who is completely overhauling the offense.

Speaker 3 He's getting rid of what Mississippi State has been using to win games, but he still mostly has personnel that fits that offense, and he might have some of that DC brain that you see sometimes when a defensive coordinator becomes the head coach and he just wants to try to win games six to three.

Speaker 3 So I think Mississippi State has a chance to have a pretty bad year, but I would say it's either them or Vandy, but I'm not going to officially say Vandi since my friend works for them.

Speaker 1 Okay, and then ACC because this also, by the way, this is key for like a Northwestern.

Speaker 1 these really bottom-of-the-barrel

Speaker 1 Power Five teams, they'll lose to a Mac team. They'll lose, and they always get credit in the spread where there'll be like seven 10-point favorites.
It's like, no, they're not good.

Speaker 3 Yeah, ACC, I'm going to go Georgia Tech or Boston College, although I do think Boston College is going to bounce back.

Speaker 3 They were very bad last year, but I don't think many people realize how many injuries they had, especially on the offensive line. So I think that just being moderately healthy improves BC.

Speaker 3 So I'm going to go with Georgia Tech.

Speaker 1 Do they have the quarterback back?

Speaker 3 No, Yerkovich.

Speaker 1 He transferred to Pitt.

Speaker 4 How many years does Georgia Tech have to suck before we get them back running the triple option?

Speaker 4 If you're a Georgia Tech fan, you got to be...

Speaker 4 It's the worst to switch styles completely and then suck at that style.

Speaker 3 That's the thing. Like Georgia Tech fans, when they made the move and went to Jeff Collins and they're like, we're finally getting rid of the triple option, they were like happy and excited about it.

Speaker 3 Then they've had to watch how it's worked out for them.

Speaker 3 I think that we need more triple option. I think Georgia Tech is a school.

Speaker 3 We've seen the triple option work, but I don't think Georgia Tech is, I think there are some Power Five schools who would be better off running that, but I don't think Georgia Tech is one of them.

Speaker 3 But I'd be happy if they go back to it. I think that it's, and we're seeing it too.
Like, this is getting off topic. One of the more concerning things, go back to last week's game against Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 Navy's in the shotgun. Don't

Speaker 3 army's going to be in the shotgun this year and running an offense that looks a lot more like what we've seen from Coastal Carolina in the last years.

Speaker 3 Like the option as we know it is kind of going away, which is sad because my Service Academy Unders principal is probably going to die with it, too.

Speaker 4 That is sad. It's very sad.

Speaker 1 I like the Service Academy Overs.

Speaker 1 Army Navy.

Speaker 1 Well, no, Army Navy, did you win or lose that last year?

Speaker 3 It's true. It's for the ninth time in 55 games I did lose the bet.

Speaker 4 Do you feel good about that, though, when you hit an under on the Service Academy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, he's a sicko.

Speaker 4 No, you're betting against America. He's a fucking sick.

Speaker 3 No, I'm not. I'm betting against the defense of this country.

Speaker 4 No, you're not, Tom.

Speaker 3 Protecting us from points.

Speaker 1 Tom's pick six, though, for anyone out there, is always always very sharp.

Speaker 1 I know Tom in a more personal way where he texts me his 25 picks on Saturday, and then I text him back my 35 picks, and then we pump each other up. I'm like, let's have a day.
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 We're going 10 and 13 today.

Speaker 4 Hank, do you have any questions for Tom?

Speaker 1 How dare you?

Speaker 1 No, I mean, are you sad the golf season's over? Like, what do you think?

Speaker 1 Golf season's not over.

Speaker 4 That's your rule that you have for yourself that you're violating tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I figured it's, I mean, I can imagine you're playing around in golf tomorrow. When all season starts, that's work.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I won't be able to golf on the weekends, which are from Friday after work until Sunday night, but I will be able to golf on Monday through Thursday pretty regularly.

Speaker 1 When you went to school, what days of the week did you go?

Speaker 3 Let's see, senior year of high school, Friday, and then college, Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays mostly.

Speaker 1 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. No, I didn't go go to classes on Thursday and Friday.
Well, no, I was talking about, you know, growing up.

Speaker 4 No, you don't go to college on Friday, Hank.

Speaker 3 But what time, when you got off, when the bell rang at 3 p.m. on Friday and you were a little third grade Hank, did you just stay in the classroom or did you go home?

Speaker 1 I would go home.

Speaker 3 And so, like, were you asking for the weekend?

Speaker 1 Well, I'd go home on Monday, too, and Tuesday.

Speaker 3 Did you wait until Saturday morning to go play with your friends?

Speaker 1 You could play with your friends. That's the thing.
The weekdays are subjective. It's a subjective, like, it's a state of mind saying it's Friday night, but it's not.

Speaker 1 Friday night is the weekend.

Speaker 4 Is that a weekend night, Hank?

Speaker 1 It can be considered a weekend night, depending on your interpretation of it.

Speaker 1 But it could also be considered a weekend night. My interpretation is that it is a weekend night.
My brain hurts.

Speaker 3 He's not a world-renowned educating person.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. That's a fact.

Speaker 4 Do you remember that thread on bodybuilding.com where those two guys got into like a month-long argument over how many days are in a week?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 3 I think actually Billy was conceived in that thread.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she was in the lab.

Speaker 1 All right well tom thank you as always we'll have you back on mid-season talk some more ball you're the best it's great to be in studio looking you guys face to face while we're doing this and i can't wait to do this at the new studio next yes control simulator yes

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Speaker 1 Hot seat.

Speaker 4 We took him off last year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, two years we gave him an two year, or last year we gave him an extension. This year, I think he's good.
I think there's, like, let's see how it goes out.

Speaker 1 It's a big year for Kentucky basketball, but I feel like they're going to do this one for Harvey, who, by the way, we want to send our condolences to Harvey's family. We loved Harvey.
He was a legend.

Speaker 1 I told him last year that I put a future on Kentucky to win the national title that we would split. I did, in fact, do that.

Speaker 1 But an absolutely legendary guy. And I hope, like,

Speaker 1 should Kentucky put a patch on their jersey for Harvey?

Speaker 4 I think that we should put another future on Kentucky this year for Harvey. Split the proceeds with Harvey's family.
How about that? When it cashes in? Done. Let's do it.

Speaker 4 Let's do the season for Harvey.

Speaker 3 Win one for him.

Speaker 4 Moment of silence for Harvey.

Speaker 1 Always good in radio to do a moment of silence. People think that

Speaker 1 their car radio is broken. But yeah, Harvey.

Speaker 4 That was actually a long moment of silence in radio terms.

Speaker 1 That was. But Harvey, absolutely, absolute legend.

Speaker 1 And remember, last year he told us vibes. The vibes were good for Kentucky basketball.
I think he was maybe a year off. I think this year's the vibes are good for Kentucky basketball.

Speaker 4 Well, I think he hit on something there. Kentucky football powerhouse.
SEC, I mean,

Speaker 4 they've shown themselves to be quite a force to be reckoned with in the SEC over the past couple seasons. I think it's good for Kentucky basketball that they're no longer a basketball school.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 4 That Kentucky's a football school.

Speaker 4 All the pressure's off Papari right now. So he's flying under the radar.
Nobody really cares in Kentucky if the basketball team's good or not. They're all focused on the fall.

Speaker 4 Their focus is on football season.

Speaker 1 And you bring in a good point about Kapipari.

Speaker 1 He is

Speaker 1 the hot seat has gotten hotter, but I feel like with the recruits he's brought in, this is the year.

Speaker 4 I wonder how Tennessee fans are going to embrace Will Levis as the quarterback for the Titans. I wonder if there's any lingering resentment there.

Speaker 1 It feels like there might be.

Speaker 4 There might be some, yeah.

Speaker 1 Big T now is a Falcons fan, so he can't speak to it, but we could maybe hear from some people who are volunteer fans and also Kentucky fans. Or no, volunteer fans and Titans fans.

Speaker 4 No, I don't want to hear from any callers because I know Big T probably has most of them blocked anyways.

Speaker 4 Any prospective callers. You're a big block guy?

Speaker 1 Oh, huge block guy. On Twitter? Yeah, from the mentions I've gotten this morning, though, I don't think I have most of them blocked.
Oh, okay. Okay, well, we're going to have to clean them out.

Speaker 1 You're basically having all the rats come out and be like, all right, now I can nuke Kentucky. No, no, I won't block Kentucky fans.
I don't punch down.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Okay.
This is great because usually we're the people that people get mad at in the comments section of Kentucky Sports Radio. Direct this all at Big T.

Speaker 4 We're going to have to reel him in a little bit. Big T, what?

Speaker 1 Shout out your socials real quick.

Speaker 1 They know where to find me. Okay,

Speaker 1 let's shout out your socials so that we can make sure that people can find you. At Connor H.

Speaker 4 Knapp. K-N-A-P-P.

Speaker 1 Okay. So at Connor H.
Knapp, everyone find him for anything he says today. Yeah, go do that.
I think that's totally fair.

Speaker 1 Big T.

Speaker 4 Can you tell the people what you're you're wearing? What's on that shirt there? You started to brag to me about

Speaker 1 the shirt that you specifically wore today.

Speaker 1 I was asking you if you knew what was on the shirt. This is the beer barrel, the trophy that Tennessee and Kentucky used to play for every year.
Kentucky's won it very seldom.

Speaker 1 Okay. Do we have calls, Rick? Yes, we do.
Joey is up next. Joey, what's up?

Speaker 10 Oh, hey there. Big fan, Joey Lexington.
I don't miss an episode of Pardon My Take. I don't miss a cat game.

Speaker 10 I was actually listening to an interview you guys did with that Kenny Smith in the NBA, and I picked up his book because of you guys. So thank you very much.
Great book.

Speaker 10 And in that book, he told the story in 98 towards the end of his career that he was going to get a job at TNT, and Brian Hill was also up for the job.

Speaker 1 This is also,

Speaker 4 that's how they pronounce it.

Speaker 4 And also, and Jason

Speaker 1 Williams comes in.

Speaker 1 Sorry, what was your name? What was your name?

Speaker 10 That TNT job because that's their calendar.

Speaker 1 Which is that Joey and Lexington, Joey. Joey, Joey.
To get the last cut. Joey.

Speaker 10 Does that sound like a guy with morals? Does that sound like a guy who violates TIMPL laws?

Speaker 1 Joey, I got a question for you.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite part about Keeneland?

Speaker 10 The horses, as long as they're not getting shot and dying, you know? Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Cause, Joey, I...

Speaker 1 You're a big horse guy. I think you're the guy.
I think I heard you once say that Bob Baffert was riding the horses.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that was a long time ago, Dan.

Speaker 1 I I don't know. I think, you know, a long time ago, I was like potentially a convicted felon, but people could change.

Speaker 10 You know,

Speaker 10 if you could change, I could change. I think your co-host would maybe say that.
Hey, Big D, you want to weigh in there? People pile on you.

Speaker 1 You think people could change? No, Big D. I mean, I don't know Joey and Lexington, but he sounds like a pretty straight shooter, good guy.
Well, not a straight shooter.

Speaker 1 Literally, not a straight shooter. No, it was straight.
Maybe there's a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Being a rat and holding guys for other jobs. There's a lot of people

Speaker 1 who have been tweeting me today saying they wish that Joey and Lexington had better aim so that we wouldn't have to have this. No, he had great aim.

Speaker 1 I'm just built different and I dodged, but the aim was impeccable. He shot a little bit to the right.

Speaker 4 If it was Mariana Rivera, Joey, I think that would have connected, right? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Well, it may be a drowning, a different, different animal.

Speaker 1 Joey, I got a question for you.

Speaker 10 I'm just doing these inside bar school things. I don't really follow.
I just want to get some comments on Cal Farrett being a first-round exit every year, after every year.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's good, Joey. Self-aware.
I got a question for you.

Speaker 1 You don't like Cal Parry. It makes, you know, it doesn't really make sense, but you don't like him.
What do you think in terms of morals, Coach Cal versus Nate Oates?

Speaker 10 I would say one goes to church every Sunday. One is building a program.
You know, he's going to get kids from five-stars from a program that hasn't been, you know,

Speaker 10 historied, like Kentucky going all the way back to Adolph Rump. I mean, Kentucky, this guy's born on third, throwing, hit a triple.

Speaker 4 All right, so Nate Oates goes to church every Sunday, so he's absolved from everything else that he does. Is that what you're telling me?

Speaker 1 Is this

Speaker 1 Joey from Lexington? Is basically going with the, you know, Hitler had built highways.

Speaker 10 I never covered that in my history, but I just know that the FCC title runs through Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 1 But you live in Lexington, Joey.

Speaker 4 And you never missed a Cats game.

Speaker 1 What's going on here, Joey?

Speaker 1 It's not adding up. It's starting to fall apart, Joey.

Speaker 10 I mean, you could, if it's, you know, things things are changing, you got to be, you got to be able to say that. You got to call Spay to Say.

Speaker 4 So, so when it comes to Alabama basketball, Joey, they haven't been disappointing, have they? They've excelled. They've won multiple titles.

Speaker 10 A couple of free throws against UCLA years back. You know, that's a tough one.
And then,

Speaker 10 you know, the injury bug, JQ goes down. And last year was just a tough one.
That San Diego State team, you know, tough team. Listen, I know a guy in New York.
He's friends with David Velatez.

Speaker 10 He's on some high lists to take ahead coaching job. They say he's got the most powerful phone in the country.
All right.

Speaker 10 David Velateze, he saw him at the Final Four, and now he's going to be a head job somewhere. So that's San Diego State team.
That's a tough team.

Speaker 4 Now, Joey, I know that you're a die-hard Wildcats fan. What about Louisville? I know that you like Louisville basketball, right?

Speaker 1 They're building something.

Speaker 10 They do, yeah. Nolan Smith, he's a good guy.
I saw it today, actually. I'm a little worried.
He's interviewing for a G-League head spot. I saw.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's a child.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Trilli Donovan.

Speaker 10 Trilli Donovan's got all the rumors.

Speaker 1 Joey, you sound like you're a gambler. We do have college football week one coming up.
You're an Alabama fan. I see that they're playing middle Tennessee.
The line is minus 40.

Speaker 1 Are you thinking maybe taking them first quarter, minus six and a half?

Speaker 10 But if it's available, you can only take what's available.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. I don't think that that's not a real line, is it, Peter?

Speaker 1 Joey's really good at gambling because he just makes up fake lines and then he's like, I got it. No, I did it.
I'm not saying that I got it on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 I'm not saying that Joey does this, but I have heard stories about people that will see a line when it comes out, see which lines move the most, and then go back and retroactively say that they bet that line before it moves.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that would get you in prison with the SEC. I think it might.

Speaker 1 You're made off of gambling.

Speaker 10 I say, some give it out early. I happen to see your Twitter, Dan.
You're jumping on the Badgers pretty early yourself. So

Speaker 1 I have a ticket to show you. What that old saying is, I'm not going to be able to get a big T, what's that old saying?

Speaker 1 Splatum. I don't know, Joey.

Speaker 1 I'd love to show you the ticket of the Badger bet.

Speaker 1 Joey, I'd love to show you the ticket of the Badgers minus 27 against Buffalo week one if you would show me USC minus six and a half.

Speaker 10 All right, that's the old. You show me yours, I'll show you mine.
I'd love to come down there, maybe stay in the studio, and talk to y'all, fellas.

Speaker 1 Thank you very much for having me. Oh, Joey, John.

Speaker 4 Joey, you never invite yourself on another men's podcast. You know that.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you know, that friend I know up there with that big phone, you know, you would think he'd get maybe a little sniff apart in my tape studio, but nothing for that, boy.

Speaker 10 So, yeah, I know you never invite yourself on the Brother Podcast. That's how I roll.

Speaker 4 We're a pro friend for Shella podcast, and I've heard that you've said some bad stuff about it.

Speaker 4 Nope, not a good friend.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not a good friend.

Speaker 1 Joey, Joey, I mean, this was 10 minutes that you could have been hiding a gun for Nate Oates. So, why don't you get back to work?

Speaker 1 Fair enough.

Speaker 1 All right, that was Joey from Lexington.

Speaker 1 Definitely from Lexington.

Speaker 4 That was the worst accent I think I've ever.

Speaker 1 No, right off the bat, I was like 20 seconds.

Speaker 4 Mickey Mouse accent.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Rick, who do we got? Got Okalona Jared up next.

Speaker 1 What is his name? Okalona Jared. Okalona Jared.
All right.

Speaker 4 He's like a turnpike song.

Speaker 13 I wanted to talk about Little Brother, the card down the street, but Big D's got me fired up this morning. So Tennessee has also only been to one Elite Eight.

Speaker 1 Is that true, Big T? And should have won that game. We got screwed.
We should have.

Speaker 1 No, no, you easily could have won that game.

Speaker 4 You are a loser, Big T.

Speaker 13 Big T wouldn't know that because he's only been a Balls fan for like eight years now. Oh, so that's crazy, too.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 1 Now, there are some people.

Speaker 4 There are some people that will point out that there's a picture of Big T when he was about, it's hard to tell. I think he was six years old, but he looked like he was 14 wearing a Georgia sweatshirt.

Speaker 4 Now, Big T, I think, is that fake news or was that a real picture?

Speaker 1 It's a real picture from when I was like four and didn't dress myself and lived in Georgia.

Speaker 4 I did. I dressed myself when I was four.

Speaker 1 I wish my four-year-old would have dressed himself.

Speaker 1 Jared, what else you got?

Speaker 13 Just a couple more facts here. So Kentucky's beaten, Kentucky leads the overall basketball series 159 to 78.

Speaker 1 I know he didn't mention that because he's a bandwagon fan.

Speaker 13 What else here? Oh, Tennessee hasn't won a meaningful football game since 98. So you'd probably have to get an almanac out

Speaker 1 the last time Tennessee won a meaningful football game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, define meaningful

Speaker 13 that it meant something to anybody other than a Tennessee fan.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, that's fair. That's fair definition.
They won the best game in college football last year against the number, were they two or three, whatever they were?

Speaker 13 If you guys ended up in the outback bowl and the citrus bowl, I would argue that that wasn't the best game in college football.

Speaker 1 Last year

Speaker 1 he saw the game against Alabama.

Speaker 13 Alabama lost two games.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Your unit keep the ball. Tennessee did not go to the outback bowl.

Speaker 1 I think Alabama did. Okay.
You guys went.

Speaker 1 Alabama went to. No, we played in the Orange Bowl.
Alabama played in the Sugar Bowl. Not sure where we're getting our facts from here.

Speaker 1 Jared, these are good facts. Anything else?

Speaker 13 Yeah, I basically just wanted to say, what's the B stand for?

Speaker 1 You bum? No, got him.

Speaker 4 The B and what?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't even know what Tom got him. He said bum.

Speaker 4 Was he calling Big B?

Speaker 1 Big B. I kind of like that.
You're Big B. Well, he started with you.
Big B. No, you're in Big B.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, that's good.

Speaker 4 Big B. I want to see.
I want to see a Photoshop of Big T, but like with bumblebee stripes on him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that works.

Speaker 4 You kind of do look like the, was it Charlie, the bumblebee from the tuna can?

Speaker 1 No clue what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. Look it up.

Speaker 1 What else we got, Rick?

Speaker 4 Okay, we got Thomas up next.

Speaker 1 Thomas, what's up?

Speaker 15 How you there? I called in because I got a bone to pick with Matt Jones, but I got a bigger one now with Big Bum.

Speaker 1 Okay. Shocker.

Speaker 1 Wait, I want to hear the Matt Jones bone to pick first.

Speaker 15 All right.

Speaker 15 Well, I called in because I knew he wasn't here to defend himself, but whenever he goes on these trips with Shannon, Drew, and Ryan, he always takes a king bed and he makes them sleep in other rooms.

Speaker 15 And he saves all his money. He makes $100,000 off free advertising for his restaurant and his wrestling.
and his Netflix show. And he can't spend a little bit on that to get those boys a good bed.

Speaker 4 Is this true? Is this true that he doesn't allow Drew to sleep in a full-size bed?

Speaker 1 They should draw straws or something.

Speaker 4 Does he sleep on the

Speaker 4 little day bed bench at the foot of Matt Jones's bed?

Speaker 1 Is that what you're saying? Man.

Speaker 15 I mean, most, it's a successful radio show. You think they get hotel rooms, but he cheaps out on these Airbnbs with one king bed and everyone else shares a room.

Speaker 15 And, you know, Matt, and then he has to drive the whole time and pick the music. And everyone has to stay awake while he's driving, even though he doesn't let anybody else drive.

Speaker 1 Everyone has to stay awake? Is that a rule?

Speaker 12 He's always talking about, like, if I'm driving, someone has to stay awake with me to talk to me. But he takes them on these long road trips across the country.

Speaker 12 Like, they're in the car like seven, eight hours a day. Like, I'm going to sleep if I'm in a car that long.

Speaker 4 No, I mean, in Matt Jones's defense, he might be using points on those hotel rooms. He flies a lot.
I know he travels to Little St. James Island, right? That's one of his frequent destinations.
Yes.

Speaker 4 So he probably has

Speaker 4 those miles banked up so he gets the king bed. Do you think, I mean, how much bigger is Matt than everybody else?

Speaker 11 He drives everywhere.

Speaker 12 He's not flying with them.

Speaker 1 Wait, Rick, have you ever gone on a trip with Matt Jones? Has he made you sleep in the dog bed? No, I've never been on a trip with Matt. Is that because he'd make you sleep in the dog bed?

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 1 Does he leave out fresh water for Drew?

Speaker 4 That's my big question. Because if not, that's inhumane.

Speaker 1 Does he have a doggy door so he can use the bathroom?

Speaker 1 Okay, good answer.

Speaker 1 All right,

Speaker 1 What's your gripe with Big Bum?

Speaker 12 Well, he's a Tennessee fan, and like they don't realize they're just Nebraska fans who just don't know it yet. They live vicariously through these stories of the 90s when they were so great,

Speaker 12 but they haven't done anything. Their biggest claim to fame is beating their rival last year on a last-second kick at home.
If they play that game in Tuscaloosa, they lose by 30.

Speaker 12 And Alabama didn't even make the playoff last year. It's like their most down year ever.
And that's their biggest claim to fame since the Great Pumpkin left their state.

Speaker 1 All right, a couple things, Thomas. If your grandma had balls, she'd be your grandpa, but she doesn't, so she ain't.
Secondly,

Speaker 1 Matt Jones, Thomas. That's fair enough.
Yeah, you can be whatever you want.

Speaker 13 You sure don't have a lot of accomplishments.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, when's the last time Nebraska was number one in the country, Tom?

Speaker 1 Oh, this is loser talking. I don't care who's number one in the middle of Steve.
Yeah, that's loser talking. Okay, anyway,

Speaker 1 I want to play a game with Thomas. We're going to play Wheel of Fun Facts.
Thomas, do you want to talk about how your arena that's also a mall is named for a racist or Billy Gillespie being a drunk?

Speaker 1 Hold on. Rubberina is awesome.

Speaker 10 Deflections.

Speaker 12 Oh, we're going to deflections.

Speaker 1 No, we're doing Wheel of Fun Facts. I don't know if you know this big team.

Speaker 1 Are we talking?

Speaker 1 You want to talk about Tennessee football compared to Kentucky football?

Speaker 1 This is a Kentucky fan speaking. Correct? I'm going to back you up one thing, Thomas.
Rubberina is beautiful.

Speaker 12 I've seen a national championship.

Speaker 11 Are you even old enough to have seen a Tennessee National Championship? We all know you haven't even seen Elite Eight.

Speaker 1 No, sorry. I've seen both.
One Elite Eight.

Speaker 15 My bad.

Speaker 12 One big Elite Eight in your whole history.

Speaker 4 Are you talking NIT Final Four or HAA Final Four?

Speaker 1 Final Four of those.

Speaker 1 A lot of women's.

Speaker 12 You know, the NIT used to be bigger than the National Championship.

Speaker 1 People forget. People do forget that.
Back when your racists were coaching. By the way, Rubberina is beautiful.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you know this, but they painted all of the duck work in the ceiling blue. Sick.
Last summer, two summers ago.

Speaker 1 Pretty nice to see. That's cool.
So you're wrong on that part. No, I've been there.
It's a beautiful mall and hotel. Great hotel bar.
What do you got against the mall?

Speaker 1 It's a great mall to play basketball in.

Speaker 4 And Matt Jones gets the best seat in the hotel mall.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right, Thomas.
Thank you, Thomas. Appreciate your call.

Speaker 1 Got Ron up next.

Speaker 4 Ron, what's up, Ron?

Speaker 11 Hey, fellas, can you hear me?

Speaker 1 We can hear you.

Speaker 11 Good deal. Hey, I don't normally call in.
I get a little nervous on

Speaker 11 these talk shows, but look, I just can't stand when Matt has you boys on okay I it it ruins the show the whole day I don't know who I don't know who Big T is but I I think his name's more like little teeth oh

Speaker 1 Ron what could we do to make it better for you

Speaker 11 for me I just can't stand the way you boys talk And here's what I got to say about what Big T is

Speaker 11 Joe Milkman ain't been good since he was in high school.

Speaker 11 That was 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 4 You're coming, Big T?

Speaker 1 Excuse me, a little bit. I'm destroyed.
Wait, so, Ron, can we change what?

Speaker 11 In the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ron, can we change what we're talking about to make it better for you?

Speaker 1 We want to meet you halfway.

Speaker 11 Well, I

Speaker 11 really, I don't know if it's y'all's fault. I just really like listening to Matt Jones.

Speaker 1 That's fair. Totally fair.

Speaker 1 Stepdad shows up.

Speaker 11 I just tune out, but this big T guy,

Speaker 11 he drove me crazy today.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 would you like to maybe play Wheel of Fun Facts? Maybe that would help you feel better. I would not.

Speaker 10 I would not.

Speaker 11 I am just happy that Levis is down there in Dashville and can show you boys what a real quarterback looks like finally.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, Rod.

Speaker 11 Last year, I think he would have had just fine of a job to show y'all what a real quarterback looks like, but you caught us after we had faced two or three real SEC teams.

Speaker 1 oh okay is that why you lost 44 to 6 or couldn't have kept a little closer than 40 we just come off two or three real sec games uh they just come off

Speaker 1 i believe it was tennessee's first sec game after alabama so

Speaker 1 ron ron where are you calling from

Speaker 1 i'm from milton kentucky okay are you are you close to be spring have you heard us talking about bee spring

Speaker 11 I have heard, I don't know much about B Spring, but it sounds like a place I may like to visit once it gets cleaned up a bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Speaker 4 I actually, I wouldn't want to visit B Spring after I want to visit it right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I want to smell that smell. Ron, what's the big thing that's going on in Milton, Kentucky, or your area right now that we can dive into? I want to make this show.

Speaker 1 I understand we are the stepdads. No one likes a stepdad.
You want your real dad, Matt Jones, but he has to, he's joining ISIS right now. So, what can we do to help?

Speaker 16 Well,

Speaker 11 really, the only thing going on here in Milton is the interstate runs through on the way to Cincinnati.

Speaker 11 We've got Madison across the river there in Indianas.

Speaker 1 But other than that, there's really not a whole lot going on up here.

Speaker 4 Any controversies? Any local news going on that we should be aware of?

Speaker 11 Fellas, I don't even know if we have a local news station.

Speaker 1 I like you. That's good.
Ron, you seem like a guy I want to have a beer with.

Speaker 11 Well, I would love that. I would love that anytime.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 Preferably, I drink Kentucky bourbon, but I'll have you a beer if you need one.

Speaker 1 All right, you'll have us a beer. I love it.
Ron, I feel like we've mended some fences here, Ron. It's only one day a year.

Speaker 11 Like I said, I don't know if I mind you boys or not, but I can't stand it when

Speaker 11 Matt Jones leaves for his sixth or seventh vacation of the whole year.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 and all his guys sleep in a dog bed.

Speaker 4 Him and Hank have a lot in common.

Speaker 12 Well,

Speaker 11 I don't know who Hank is, but I assume he takes 15, 20 vacations.

Speaker 1 One minute. You assume that's a fact.

Speaker 1 He nailed it. You picked that up well.
All right, well, Ron.

Speaker 11 I just want to say one last thing to Big T.

Speaker 11 Rickett Barnes, only thing he's good for is mopping up the floor after the Kentucky Wildcats come and whip his butt.

Speaker 1 Why is he beating them more than they've beaten him then?

Speaker 1 And what about raising good Christian men? He's good at that.

Speaker 1 You're a Christian, Ron? Ma'am, I am tonight.

Speaker 1 Well, Ron, thank you. Appreciate your call.
We'll try to be better in the last half hour.

Speaker 1 We lost Ron. Yeah, we lost him.

Speaker 4 I need Cargo Shorts guy. What's his name?

Speaker 1 I want to hang out with Ron.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Ron's a good dude. I think we also do.
I respect anybody that calls us up and says, hey, I don't like you boys. Yeah.
But I just want to let you know that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I appreciate that. At least he has the courage to call.

Speaker 4 DJ.

Speaker 4 What's up, DJ?

Speaker 16 Nothing much.

Speaker 14 You know, everybody talks about basketball and football in Kentucky, but there's another big sport here, and that's chicken fighting. And I know you all

Speaker 12 appreciate a good cockfight more than anybody.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Tell me about what's going on in the local cockfight team.

Speaker 14 They keep busting all these people, fighting them. You got all these people coming from other, flying in from these other countries, dropping money, and then flying out.

Speaker 1 So have you been to a cockfight in Kentucky?

Speaker 14 Yeah, I've been to a lot of them. I've been going since I was probably seven or eight.

Speaker 1 How long does a cockfight last?

Speaker 4 Rick Patino's in, probably not that long. No.

Speaker 15 It just depends on how quality of a bird it is.

Speaker 12 Some of them could be maybe two or three minutes to two or three hours.

Speaker 1 So I'm interested because I've never been to a cockfight. When you're looking at the cocks beforehand, do you know what a good cock looks like?

Speaker 16 Yeah, you gotta see how they're acting when they're weighing them up and whenever they're uh

Speaker 4 preparing them you know if they got good energy you know that's always a good one to bet on so when you weigh in when you weigh in a cock do sometimes the the the cocks get bigger in between the weigh-in like some might be growers not necessarily showers on the scale

Speaker 14 uh yeah usually they weigh them up and then whenever they take them back before they fight them they make sure they uh poop everything out to lose a little bit of weight gain gain some speed Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Now, we're big sports guys. We love debates.

Speaker 1 Is there a goat cock? Is there a cock that you think about? Like, you know, you'd be laying in bed at night. You'd be like, man, that cock from whatever, 10 years ago, that was...

Speaker 4 Wish I could see that cock.

Speaker 1 That was the cock.

Speaker 14 Well, there's not really a specific one. There's specific breeds, you know.

Speaker 15 Some breeds are meaner than others.

Speaker 14 Some of them are stronger. Some of them are faster.
You just got to kind of breed them to where you get a fast one and a strong one.

Speaker 4 Some of them, yeah, some of them are cut, some of them are not cut yet.

Speaker 1 What's the

Speaker 1 best breed to cock?

Speaker 14 Sometimes they trim them up, and sometimes they just let them go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, manscape. What's the best breed to cock?

Speaker 12 Well,

Speaker 14 usually you like to go for the gray roosters.

Speaker 1 Big Ben. Yep.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 14 And they like to breed them with a lot of

Speaker 13 caught a round head.

Speaker 15 It's a red rooster.

Speaker 1 So yep,

Speaker 4 but my dog's got one of those.

Speaker 1 I like this.

Speaker 4 Is there a greatest cock of all time, though? Big cat was asking about the goat. We want to know who who the legendary cocks are out there.

Speaker 14 No, there's not really necessarily a legendary one.

Speaker 4 Once you've seen one, you've seen them all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Lexington and Steel.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What about the names? How do they name the cocks?

Speaker 14 They don't usually give them a name.

Speaker 14 Some people name them, but usually they name them if they're just going to breed them.

Speaker 1 Those are the best kind. The breeders.

Speaker 1 It makes sense.

Speaker 1 You don't want to get attached to a cock and then have it die.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 14 They usually only live probably maybe six or seven years.

Speaker 4 Now, how do they train? Do they train on like a fake cock?

Speaker 14 Usually you spar them, you know, kind of like boxing. You just let them go without any of the equipment on them.

Speaker 4 So that way they can just feel better without the equipment, yeah.

Speaker 14 Yeah, build up their endurance, and that way they get their training in before they actually get all strapped up.

Speaker 4 What's the average bet like at a cock fight? Are people out there giving odds or is it just like money line?

Speaker 14 Usually it's money line, you know, depending on what kind of fight it kind of fight is. You know, some of them people from flying from like the Philippines,

Speaker 14 they might land and drop like twenty thirty thousand dollars on one fight and then fly out so yeah do you can you tell what a cott cock is cut in a fight

Speaker 1 yeah usually they uh they cut the the comb off the head and off the sides of their head that's usually that's what a cut cock is okay that makes sense and what what about this equipment what what what equipment are cocks are cocks wearing is there like a ring or something they're putting on

Speaker 14 there's uh well there's either uh sometimes they put knives on them They tie a knife to their foot.

Speaker 4 Whoa, that doesn't sound fair. That's awesome.

Speaker 4 You brought a knife to a cock fight.

Speaker 1 That's incredible.

Speaker 14 Yeah, there's a long knife and a short knife. So one's a little, you got one that's probably about six or seven inches, the other one's about three or four.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you got like a seven-inch cock, is that better, or would you rather have like more girth on it?

Speaker 16 Well, the long ones usually remember quicker fights. Because if you got a

Speaker 14 good good rooster they can usually cut one up within probably 15 20 seconds. Damn they get it they get a good hit.

Speaker 1 Damn. Well DJ we got to come down and see some cocks

Speaker 12 Yeah

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, we want the engine. Yeah, I think we just made a plan.

Speaker 4 It'll be a Bukaki

Speaker 14 Yeah, they're they're all over the place. They're in the hills

Speaker 4 This cock under every stone hollers creeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You ever send pictures to your buddies?

Speaker 14 No.

Speaker 4 Yeah. It's probably smart.

Speaker 1 It's very smart. Keeping it low-digital footprint.

Speaker 14 Yeah, you don't want to make them jealous.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. That's true.
All right. Well, DJ, thanks so much.

Speaker 12 Yeah, you don't want to give them that cock, Envy.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, definitely not. Definitely not.
We're going to take another break, but DJ, we appreciate your call. I don't know if we have anything to give away, but you are caller of the day.

Speaker 1 So feel good about that.

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Speaker 1 Bailey's happy. Yeah, crazy.
That seems like you always have that time when you completely submarined Mac Jones.

Speaker 4 It seems like they're kind of confident. They're satiating Mac Jones by cutting Bailey Zappy.

Speaker 1 Oh, you think it was one of those?

Speaker 4 I think it's one of those. We don't want everybody clamoring for the backup.
We'll get rid of him.

Speaker 1 So now we have Malik Cunningham, who's literally electric. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But he's not Bailey Zappy.

Speaker 1 He's not Bailey's Appi. All right.
Mount Rushmore. Two left.

Speaker 6 It's standings. That would make this the penultimate match.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Yep. It would.

Speaker 1 I've been waiting for like. We know.
We know.

Speaker 1 You can't help yourself.

Speaker 1 Standings.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 6 Big Count and PFT 31, Jake and Billy 30. Hank and Max 27.
Six points on the board. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 And now we talked about it at the beginning of the show. PFT, could you share that stat with us?

Speaker 4 Yeah, just an interesting stat that came across our desk. And it's pertinent to Mount Rushmore's season.
Very pertinent. Very pertinent to Max and Hank's team specifically.

Speaker 4 Max has scored four points in three Mount Rushmores when Hank was gone.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. That means, what, at least one win and a couple second places or maybe two wins?

Speaker 4 It's 1.3333333333333333 points per game.

Speaker 1 If you do that all season, you won't be in the box.

Speaker 4 Definitely not in the box. That's almost averaging first place.

Speaker 4 Now, when Hank has been around without Max,

Speaker 4 he scored one point in four Mount Rushmores.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 4 So that comes out to 0.25 points per game

Speaker 1 for Hank.

Speaker 4 So Hank. So Max is five times better at Mount Robertson.

Speaker 1 Where else was Max?

Speaker 1 I don't know. You're the boss of him.

Speaker 1 Where has Max been? No, like I know he's gone this week, but what were the other ones I did without him? I don't know. Whatever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, listen,

Speaker 1 you guys did your thing. You rigged the election.
How?

Speaker 1 You knew I was not firing last week.

Speaker 1 And you had us do three in one night, which was a lot on a Sunday night after a long weekend and a vacation.

Speaker 1 You pulled the wool over my eyes.

Speaker 4 What do you mean a long weekend?

Speaker 1 Hold on, let me go back.

Speaker 4 How is Saturday at 12.01 a.m.

Speaker 1 You told Billy not to text Jake back so that memes could give him the picks, and they had probably their best week of the season without Billy. Listen, I'm not even mad.
I respect the move.

Speaker 1 No, you're not mad. You guys did what you did, and now you can throw these next two and guarantee that me and Max go in.
So good jobs. Congrats.
It's not over.

Speaker 1 Put it on a quote quick. Hank is not mad.

Speaker 1 No, I respect it.

Speaker 1 It's one of those things things where

Speaker 1 I should have been more alert. I should have been on top of it.
I was enjoying my summer, relaxing, not thinking about you guys pulling a move like this, but

Speaker 1 it was. Pulling a move like what?

Speaker 1 You know what you did. No, I don't.

Speaker 1 We did three last Sunday. You knew I wasn't.
We golfed on Sunday, and you saw where I was at, and you're like, pick out, let's do three in one night. We'll tell Billy not to text back.

Speaker 4 I'm just going to throw this out here. It's funny.
Maybe you shouldn't have gotten really high on the golf course on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Like I said, I have no choice. I didn't bring it, but if someone passed it, calendar, uh, tell me what day of the week August 18th was.

Speaker 4 I said no to drugs, Hank.

Speaker 1 August 18th. August 18th.

Speaker 6 Was a Friday.

Speaker 1 Oh, interesting. Because August 18th was a Friday, you said? At 1:42 p.m., which is August 18th, Friday, 1:42 p.m., that's a workday.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I texted the group and I said, Sunday night, we should do three rushmores. Makes Tuesday and Thursday easier, and that way way Jake can make picks in person.
That is a full 48 hours plus.

Speaker 1 Again, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 When did we get the topics?

Speaker 4 Hey, Kat, what time did you text that?

Speaker 1 1:42 p.m. on Friday.
I was on vacation, so technically I was off. I wouldn't have even seen that till Saturday.

Speaker 4 You know why that's also interesting? That's a full 10 hours before the weekend even starts.

Speaker 1 But I was off.

Speaker 1 I was off that day. I was off.
Oh, you were off that day. So that didn't even come across my radar until Saturday at midnight.
Interesting. Interesting.
Listen, again, congratulations.

Speaker 1 You guys pulled it off. I have accepted that me and Max are going in.
We're going to make it fun. That's what everyone wanted.
This is, you know,

Speaker 1 this is the Hank and Max show. It's what everyone wanted.
Breaking Moose, Breaking Moose. Breaking Moose.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 I forgot a part. So Friday,

Speaker 1 what did I say? August 18th, 1.42 p.m. Jane just said.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I thought that's what the breaking moves.

Speaker 1 This is more important than breaking moves. Jane just cut Malik Cunningham, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 You literally just watched his highlights.

Speaker 4 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 So who's getting fucking Brian Hoyer back in the mix? Probably, yeah. Damn, what a twist that was.

Speaker 1 That was a great moment in podcasting history.

Speaker 1 Hank watching it and just being like, yeah, this guy rules. Hank, comment on Malik Cunningham, who just fell in love with it.
Do we have one quarterback now?

Speaker 1 Malik Cunningham is the hot girl across the bar that Hank catches eyes on. While I was watching his headless, he went to Louisville.
I'm like, oh, it's Lamar Jackson. Yeah, Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 4 If that was a conspiracy theorist, why would you compare that to Lamar Jackson?

Speaker 1 Because he was playing at Louisville. But I was watching Louisville.

Speaker 1 I was watching a Louisville quarterback being electric. Yeah, Lamar Jackson, same category.

Speaker 4 If I'm going to put on my Florio hat real quick here, big cat, and I will.

Speaker 4 Tom Brady back to the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 I'm down. Oh, that's fine.
That's fan fiction I can get. No, that's fan fiction.

Speaker 1 I'm a, what do you call it?

Speaker 1 Softcore porn or like written porn? Erotica. Okay, erotic.
Patriots erotica, like I'm down.

Speaker 4 Yeah, fan fiction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like erotic of style. He writes fanfiction the opposite way.
He writes horror for fiction.

Speaker 4 Okay. So Tom Brady, we're first reporting here on part of my take.
Tom Brady has been linked to conversations coming back to New England Patriots this year.

Speaker 1 Per here. Per us.
It's this conversation. Okay, so back to Terran.
I mean, we don't have any other quarterbacks on the roster. Kaepernick.
Yeah. What about Kaepernick?

Speaker 1 Okay. Philip Rivers.
Big Ben. Some names.
What the Favre?

Speaker 1 Hank, you're going to want to pay attention to this. So back to the Mount Rushmore thing, when you said it wasn't on your radar because you weren't working that day.

Speaker 1 When I texted Sunday night, we should do three Rushmores. That way Jake can make the picks in person.
That was 1.42 p.m. on August 18th, which was

Speaker 1 at 1.43 p.m.,

Speaker 1 Hank replied, okay.

Speaker 1 That was AI. He literally saw the text and replied.
And then at 1.44 p.m.

Speaker 1 I was like, I'm going to push back. Hold on.

Speaker 1 p.m.

Speaker 1 you said you actually said one of the topics we were doing and you got zero points in that topic listen it is what it is i've accepted loss these facts have really hurt your case you know i guess you guys don't you know you you shaped this narrative well you didn't want to keep up with the max second place sad that's over um

Speaker 1 yeah i look forward to my 24 hours in the box oh don't give up by the way we would i don't want to bring up no it's over you guys you guys well it would be over if we didn't get a penalty we would have already been cleared but we're gonna well it wouldn't be it would be over for you guys but yeah

Speaker 1 also we won the first we won the paypal thing

Speaker 4 i don't want to sit in a room for 24 hours yes i don't care what room it is okay just one room uh a couch with football for 24 hours non-stop yeah in what world is that possible though there's no they could figure it out there's no schedule that's uh that's what they should do week zero should be 24 hours of football college basketball used to do it it was the best yeah i would love

Speaker 1 schedule makers to get on on week zero, 24 hours of football. That's what I want.
Okay, so we are doing the Mount Rushmore of things we plan on doing eventually. And so Max and Hank need at least,

Speaker 1 what, two points?

Speaker 1 Two points.

Speaker 6 So they need a point. If we win, or if Hank finishes last, it's over.
It's over.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Either of those two scenarios.

Speaker 1 So you need at least a point.

Speaker 6 They need to win at least one, too.

Speaker 4 They need to win.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 They need one. Don't say one today, two Friday, Friday, or two today, one Friday.
Or they can win it outright with 2-2 and me and Billy going 0-0.

Speaker 4 So our magic number for avoiding the punishment

Speaker 6 is a tiebreaker.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but to be free and clear, we just need one point in the next two minutes.

Speaker 6 Or you just need Hank not to sweep the rest of the way. Yes.

Speaker 4 Well, judging by Hank's past performances.

Speaker 1 Well, he didn't know that we were doing a Mount Rushmore today.

Speaker 4 That's true. Snuck up on him.

Speaker 4 Hank, you suggested the Mount Rushmore trilogies, and then you only came up with three responses.

Speaker 1 I forgot that was also one. That's not true.

Speaker 1 Oh, that is very true. You had two of the three topics you knew beforehand, yeah.
Oh, man. Okay.
Mount Rushmore, things we plan on doing eventually. PFT, are we up first?

Speaker 6 Hey, Count PFT, Jake and Billy, Hank, and Max.

Speaker 1 All right, should we just go 1-1? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 What? What's that face?

Speaker 1 Let's just

Speaker 1 end it. Okay, things we plan on doing eventually, getting jacked, getting super jacked.

Speaker 4 I'm actually going to get jacked on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, six-pack, the whole thing, just looking, just getting in, maybe put in, getting in the best shape of your life.

Speaker 4 I'm going to have a Halloween six-pack. It's going to be incredible.

Speaker 6 Getting in the best shape of your life.

Speaker 4 It's going to go as the situation for Halloween this year. It's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 I have said this conversation to myself internal monologue no less than a thousand times in my life.

Speaker 1 It's usually it really pops up on a Sunday night, but it will happen at any time where I'm just like, yeah, you know what?

Speaker 4 I'm going to get jacked. You know what? This is going to work.
I did this a couple weeks ago. I decided I wasn't going going to diet.
I wasn't going to try to lose weight. I was going to bulk.

Speaker 4 I was going to get jacked up. In retrospect, that was just me being like, here's a free pass to eat whatever you want while working out the exact same amount.

Speaker 1 The lengths that we go to try to trick ourselves into getting jacked.

Speaker 1 In my new house, I have a gym with like a treadmill and a squat rack. And I purposely put...
multiple TVs in there because I was like, oh, I'll watch the games and I'll get jacked. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've been in it once.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I've got a Peloton. I've got those adjustable dumbbells that go up to like 100 pounds.
It's crazy, dude. I have two gym memberships.
It's crazy. And I use half of one of them.

Speaker 4 I'm going to get jacked, though. I'm going to get jacked.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get jacked. This is going to work.

Speaker 1 Hank is so, so broken right now as a man.

Speaker 4 Stand up for yourself, Hank. Come on.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, I also agree.

Speaker 1 I have 10 years straight of

Speaker 1 getting jacked plans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've had a couple months. Let's just do it.
It's just that, like, I've gotten,

Speaker 1 good shape for two months. What if we just did that? And then I got traveling.

Speaker 1 You think we'd get more respect? For sure. Well, because I obviously struggle with if I got skinny, people would be like, oh, you're not funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the best shape of your life is actually round.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hurt people hurt people.

Speaker 1 It's true. I think the fans would agree.
Did you ever hear that saying? I think the fans would agree.

Speaker 1 But if we all got super jabbed,

Speaker 1 I feel like we could

Speaker 1 almost reconfigure this podcast as like a

Speaker 1 full life advice. Maybe we all got jacked and we like

Speaker 1 move to the beach and just bench press and squat rack in the studio.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's not a bad idea.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm doing to get jacked? I'm spending a lot of time in the sauna. Yeah.
I'm a sauna guy now. So whatever Joe Rogan's stats are on the sauna, I'm doing five degrees hotter.

Speaker 4 I'm doing five minutes longer.

Speaker 1 We are going to have a squat rack in the new office, are we not?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
So let's get jacked.

Speaker 4 Squat over.

Speaker 1 Dude, if we just do squat, that's the thing thing is like you can just do squats and get jacked Yeah, you can do you can eat all your testosterone My thing is like once I really get into the rhythm I have so much room to grow because some people it's like they get jacked and like you know you were jacked and then you got it it fell apart.

Speaker 1 I've never even gotten jacked.

Speaker 1 So that means that I'm better than you at one point.

Speaker 1 But I can still I can still

Speaker 1 climb a higher mountain. I was a beast when I did CrossFit.
I could only do it again.

Speaker 4 Get injured on the first day. Yeah, CrossFit's dumb.

Speaker 1 Who's up? I think it's Hank.

Speaker 1 Same order every week. All right, Mr.
Positions, you've done a lot.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so this one's pretty basic.

Speaker 6 Big time PFT, you've already done this. Oh.
PFT recently. It's pretty simple.

Speaker 1 Buying a house. Oh,

Speaker 1 okay. That's a good one.

Speaker 6 No matter what position you're in, everyone plans on buying a house. PFT just did that two months ago for the first time.

Speaker 4 $22 million. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's all you need.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so not much to it, but plan on doing it eventually. I like it.

Speaker 1 That's a good pick. That's a good pick.
Hank did it as well. You're not going to say anything about him? Was it a house? No.
I mean, it's condo, but it's still he bought it. He owns property.

Speaker 1 He's a property owner. Congratulations on the ground.

Speaker 4 Don't stare me down like that.

Speaker 1 Memes meme-mugged me.

Speaker 3 No, I heard $22 million. I was like, oh,

Speaker 3 he's rich.

Speaker 4 You listen to the pod?

Speaker 1 $75,000 an episode, bro. You hand us the big check.

Speaker 4 My mortgage went up to $22 million mysteriously.

Speaker 1 You know what? You should text Billy that PFT bought a $22 million house and see if he blogs it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 We should have bought Michael Jordan's house.

Speaker 1 I think we can wait that one out and we might get it for free. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good pick.
Hank. Set, sad, Hank.

Speaker 1 Kitty fuck.

Speaker 1 Learning how to play guitar. Okay.
Why? You have no enthusiasm.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 skydiving. Okay, good picks.

Speaker 4 I would never do that.

Speaker 1 I have skydove. It is awesome.
You should do it once.

Speaker 1 No, you should do it once. I just stopped something.

Speaker 4 What? My hands are sweating right now.

Speaker 1 What? No,

Speaker 1 I am lashing out. It'd be a lash out.

Speaker 1 Permission to lash out. I know what I was going to say.
When

Speaker 1 PFT came to my apartment, he stepped outside and was like, oh, and like went back inside because it was high. Yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 I didn't like a panic attack on Hank's palace.

Speaker 1 Hank is in such a mood. I told you it was a lash out.

Speaker 4 That's not even a fun fact.

Speaker 1 That's just

Speaker 1 a little bit fun fact. The best part is, BFD, is Hank's in such a lash out mood.
I didn't know when he said, oh, I was going to say something. I didn't know it was about you.

Speaker 1 I thought he was going to say, yeah, you skydove once and now you're too fat. Oh, that's true.

Speaker 1 You could have gone both ways there.

Speaker 4 Why would you skydive? Why would you jump out of a great airplane?

Speaker 1 It was fun. It was very fun.
I really want to skydive. All-time adrenaline.

Speaker 1 What I really want to do, but it would take a lot more training, is I really want to get to a a point where i could skydive on my own i think that's the ultimate that's the ultimate rush insane i need that

Speaker 1 man

Speaker 1 no thank you all right jake good picks hank way to go good job

Speaker 6 yeah

Speaker 6 um this one's a little bit more specific okay

Speaker 6 towards a demographic but uh homework on a football sunday oh

Speaker 1 plan on doing it eventually doing it later yeah so that's that is the procrastination thing you said I mean, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 Actually, we actually would make pics that we believe in. Oh, Jake is just you are AI for me.
No, you are AI. You are AI.

Speaker 1 You don't have homework, dude.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? How many people are doing that? That's things you plan on doing eventually. That's not even your pick.

Speaker 1 No, like, that's not even.

Speaker 4 Well, I'll give Jake a bailout here. It's something that he used to plan on doing later.

Speaker 1 But you,

Speaker 1 but that's not the topic. Like, I couldn't pick.

Speaker 6 I didn't realize it has to be things. Exactly.

Speaker 1 No, you're AI. All your picks last week, not your picks.
Me and PFT couldn't say buy a house. We bought a house.
Right.

Speaker 6 Okay. I didn't realize it was first person.

Speaker 1 Correct. All summer.
Eric. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You're doing Pander Bear.

Speaker 1 He's been AI.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Taco Bell draft was AI. Taco Bell draft, trilogies draft.
Never had it.

Speaker 1 Everything. Pretty much 90% of your picks.
AI. I like this.
Now you're getting to lash out. Love it, Hank.
Hank is spraying the whole room. No one is safe right now.
All right. I'll skip it.

Speaker 1 I mean, homework thoughts. No,

Speaker 4 No, I'm going to allow it for Jake. You graciously allowed us to take Air Bud.
That's true. That was very nice of him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Go.

Speaker 1 It's our turn. All right.

Speaker 4 I think the number two on our list is pretty good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 We'll do number two and then number ten.

Speaker 1 What about no, no, ten we can't do for the same reason.

Speaker 4 No, I haven't done them yet.

Speaker 1 But you've done them before. Yeah, but that's the thing.

Speaker 6 Like, I don't care if you guys pick something that you've done before, personally.

Speaker 1 What about seven?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We probably get that last, though. Okay, you're right.

Speaker 1 You're right. You're right.
You're right. You're right.
This is good talking. This is good talking.
We're talking it out.

Speaker 1 All right. Do two and then we'll think.

Speaker 4 Get a tattoo. Yep.
I'm going to get a tattoo.

Speaker 1 Eventually I will get a tattoo.

Speaker 4 I'm going to get a tattoo. I'm going to get a plaid half sleeve.
It's going to be sick. Nobody's ever had a plaid tattoo before.
I'll be the first, and it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 4 I'm totally going to get a tattoo.

Speaker 1 Gonna get a tattoo.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, we're definitely eventually going to get a tattoo.
For sure.

Speaker 4 Imagine if I was jacked with a half-sleep tattoo. It'd be sick.
Combo would be sick.

Speaker 1 It's so sick. All right,

Speaker 1 you want to do 10, but that's going to put us in a gray area where we get handcuffed. It's over.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 No, no, because I can justify. I can justify.

Speaker 1 Yeah, then you can do it.

Speaker 4 Taxes.

Speaker 4 Eventually do it. Taxes.
Eventually going to do taxes.

Speaker 6 That's the same category as well.

Speaker 4 No, no, wrong, Jake. Wrong, though.
Wrong, Jake, because I got an extension to October 15th. I haven't done my taxes.

Speaker 1 I've not done mine taxes. You've done them before.
I'm eventually going to do this. I'm going to eventually do my one thing.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 6 what if I quit? Do this podcast and go to law school.

Speaker 1 Yes, apply. And that would count.
Yeah, great. That's a hypothetical.

Speaker 6 Then I'm going to go to them to have homework.

Speaker 4 You're living in dream world.

Speaker 1 I'm living in reality. We're talking about things we're eventually going to do this year.

Speaker 4 I still have to do my taxes, and I'm going to do them. Just not.
I've got to do mine as well.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 Don't give me that smirk, Jake.

Speaker 1 I hate nothing. No, you don't have homework.
Are you going to ever have I'm never going to have homework again in my life?

Speaker 6 I mean, you never know. Life can have a homework.

Speaker 1 No, Jake. I've never done homework again in my life.
Maybe me. You're going to have homework again? Who knows? Life's crazy.

Speaker 4 Life is crazy.

Speaker 1 But you're saying

Speaker 1 you plan on. Law school? What?

Speaker 1 It might not happen. You said you planned on having school.

Speaker 6 I told you guys I'm gladly happy to replace.

Speaker 1 No, it's fine. You lost the plot a long time ago.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Jake, your pick.

Speaker 6 We're going to go with

Speaker 6 having kids.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Good pick. There you go.
Get around to it. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yes. Eventually.

Speaker 1 Was that Billy's pick as well? No. Okay.

Speaker 4 Billy, not going to have kids. Not going to have sex.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank. We'll go with Max's.
We'll do two and two. Let him cook.

Speaker 1 This is sad. Decorating my apartment.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, I feel like that's a good pick because you do...

Speaker 1 Like, your apartment always stays in that like half like, hey, sometimes eventually I'm going to do something with this.

Speaker 4 You know what I love, though?

Speaker 4 I love the one box that you never unpacked and it stays stashed in your apartment until you move out again yes you're like I'm gonna use all this stuff eventually and then you're like well I could just throw this away because I haven't used it in two years yes you're like no at the next place I'm gonna use this yes I moved four times in the past four years and and there was multiple times where I

Speaker 1 didn't touch the box and just but I've still moved it yeah like it's like this box has been there since I packed it up

Speaker 1 brought it to my other apartment and then I looked at it I was like well I'll just bring it to my next one and then I was like well and then I finally got rid of it I think my last year in New York York, but it was, there was a lot of that.

Speaker 4 I definitely gave up my last year in New York.

Speaker 1 I was like, you know what?

Speaker 4 I'm going to move to Chicago in 12 months. I don't really need to put away my clean clothes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No,

Speaker 1 I'm just going to put them right back in a box later.

Speaker 1 My last apartment, because I moved, I lived there for a year, knew we were moving, and it was like there was times where I was like, this looks weird because it's not decorated at all, but also, what is the point?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 And then lastly, becoming a millionaire.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 4 Let's go, Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Wait, that that was Max. Good pick, Max.
Good pick.

Speaker 1 That's never going to happen for Max. Turn out.
Eventually.

Speaker 1 You, Hank, you're there. Corporate Hank's going to get there.
I hope so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jake.

Speaker 1 Jake's going to be like

Speaker 1 picking out my Halloween costume.

Speaker 4 Go for it, Jake. You got this.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm rattled.

Speaker 1 Learning how to ride a bike.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's specific to a demographic.

Speaker 6 Our last pick is going to be

Speaker 6 retiring.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, this is a good, that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 Eventually, I want to retire. I don't know if I ever will, but I want to.
It'd be nice.

Speaker 4 If I just retired, I would just end up doing this exact same thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I hope that there's maybe like a half retirement that we could do. AI does

Speaker 1 Monday and Wednesday, we do Friday.

Speaker 4 We just do the golf videos.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that would be a good retirement.

Speaker 1 That would be a great retirement. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 We just do golf and gambling live streams.

Speaker 4 You think if Hank retired and was just doing golf videos all the time, he would start working as his escape from work? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He would take a vacation to podcast camp. Yep.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Should we go with that one, though? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah.
I mean, eventually, I think we all

Speaker 1 would like to do this.

Speaker 1 Two girls at once.

Speaker 1 It'd be nice. It would be nice eventually, right? Check it off the list.

Speaker 1 What? You don't want to do two girls at once? That's an AI pick. That's not an AI pick.
I came from my brain. Two girls at once rule.
But

Speaker 1 you're not planning on doing that. Eventually, maybe.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 It would be a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 It would be a ton of pressure.

Speaker 1 I would completely fold under pressure. Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 I just start telling jokes.

Speaker 1 I would love to do two girls at once. She'd be like, please leave.
Yeah, two girls at once for 35 seconds.

Speaker 4 It would be sick. Everybody gets one stroke.

Speaker 4 I would make a Rick Petino joke and they kick me out of the orgy.

Speaker 1 Hank, you don't want to do two girls at once? Of course I do. Yeah.
Mr. Positions does.

Speaker 1 You fucking dollitions on everyone.

Speaker 4 That was an awesome dudge.

Speaker 1 Duh.

Speaker 1 Duh. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I feel bad about myself.

Speaker 4 Just give her a back shot. Gotcha.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It would be great if Max.

Speaker 1 Max gets into an orgy, and the two girls are like, We want you to titty fuck us. He's like, I'm out.
I'm out. I don't want to do this anymore.

Speaker 1 Gotcha.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 We only have one Mount Rushmore left, guys. One more rushmore left.
Isn't that sad?

Speaker 4 It's been such an awesome time just hanging out with you guys.

Speaker 1 Hank, what if you win this and Jake finishes last? So you're going to have some life. You're going to have some life.

Speaker 1 Then it all comes down to Friday. Yeah.
Do you realize that? If you win this, no, you guys can rig it. What? I'm gonna say, you guys can purposely leave.
They're not gonna throw it.

Speaker 1 Jake, who

Speaker 1 do you think you're working with?

Speaker 6 They're not gonna throw it given the circumstances.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 Hank, I'm gonna give you a turn. Without a word,

Speaker 4 it doesn't matter. We're not gonna throw it.

Speaker 1 You understand that I will never believe you saying that ever again. You know what? Hash.
Because you have, and you've already, again, we've talked about this at length.

Speaker 1 This whole segment has been completely, completely ruined since you guys.

Speaker 4 toppings. It would be great if Hank had some life going into the last game.

Speaker 1 And on Friday. Exactly, because you're going to throw it.

Speaker 1 On Friday,

Speaker 1 the win probability is zero. I'm not getting my hopes up.
It doesn't matter. It's over.
Me and Max are in the box. Friday, we should do Mount Rushmore pizza toppings.

Speaker 1 Real? Yes.

Speaker 1 Why not, Hank?

Speaker 1 Let's bring the pieces back together. Let's do a real Mount Rushmore pizza topping.

Speaker 4 I do like olives.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love double olives.

Speaker 1 I can't believe you guys didn't take pepperoni. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 I think I picked oregano.

Speaker 6 I think our guys did a recap mashup of that recently, and it went viral again.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Hank, will you do pizza toppings? Pizza toppings? For real?

Speaker 1 I thought it did.

Speaker 4 Hank, you're being a real bitch right now.

Speaker 1 Jesus is lying.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 6 If I lie, kill me.

Speaker 1 Well, you did. You did lie.
I did lie earlier. You lied yesterday.
I'm dead, yeah. So, yeah, you should be dead.
Yeah. Will you do Pizza Toppings on Friday with us? Whatever you want, it's your show.

Speaker 1 I mean, come on. We've already done it.
Let's do water.

Speaker 1 We have done that. Do you want to do water?

Speaker 4 Thrice. Have we done it three times already?

Speaker 1 Memes. Memes.
What were you about to say? No, the video did do pretty well. Oh, wow, Hank.
Viral, though. Vi.

Speaker 1 Aaron Donald, DK McCall.

Speaker 6 He's got the part of My Take Universe.

Speaker 1 Aaron Donald, DK Metcalf.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Max said he was getting some text of people being like, is this serious?

Speaker 3 Love it.

Speaker 1 Why don't we do two guys on chicks real quick? Because it's been a long show. We'll wrap up.

Speaker 1 Hey, fellas, my boyfriend is six. I forgot he was really good.

Speaker 6 We can do honorable mention.

Speaker 1 Oh, honorable mentions. Yes, sorry to call.
Honorable mentions. All right.

Speaker 1 Have a winning March Madness. I'm going to eventually do that.
Perfect bracket. Yep.

Speaker 1 Safari in Africa. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 I want to go to the Kentucky Derby. Ireland.
Ireland. You haven't done the Kentucky Derby.
Nope yet. I've I've done pretty much every other big horse race now.

Speaker 4 I'm going to quit nicotine.

Speaker 1 Yep. I'm going to do it.
Buy a boat, scuba dive. I'd love to scuba dive.

Speaker 4 I'm going to learn the rules of craps.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Well, buying a boat's opposite of your pick a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, but I eventually probably will be

Speaker 4 acknowledged that it's a waste of money.

Speaker 1 When I buy it, I'll be like, this is a waste of money.

Speaker 1 Max Road start a podcast, which

Speaker 1 would be. Oh, I would love to hear that.
Max.

Speaker 6 Competition.

Speaker 4 Philly specials.

Speaker 1 We should green light that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Learn how to fix a car.

Speaker 4 But we get to name the podcast.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Loser talk.

Speaker 1 Second place. Max with Max Delente.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Actually, Max should do a podcast, but he should do a solo podcast. Yeah.
I would love to hear that. It's Max's thoughts unfiltered.
To the Max.

Speaker 1 Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 My boyfriend has six drafts over Labor Day weekend. My parents invite us to their beach house for the long weekend, and I'm excited to see them.

Speaker 1 My boyfriend has two drafts each night and says he has to take them, but that I can go have fun with my parents. Can I be annoyed? Also, his team name is Kareem Pai, and we're 34 years old.

Speaker 1 Do fantasy team names like that ever end? Thanks, guys. Make sure you work until Midnight Friday, Hank.

Speaker 4 This is just kind of it's guy season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't get in the way of the drafts.

Speaker 4 I'd say four drafts over the course of two days is a lot, though.

Speaker 1 I also think, unless the draft is in person, which is a totally totally different thing, which is great, if you can get everyone in person, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 I think weekday drafts are better just because it gives you a little something to look forward to, like on a Tuesday night. Like I know my draft, I have a draft Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 I have a draft next Tuesday night. It's kind of fun, like something extra.

Speaker 4 What's great if you're at work and you spend all day at work preparing for your draft at night? Right.

Speaker 1 So if these are in person, I understand it. You can't get mad.
If he's doing...

Speaker 4 uh internet drafts on a friday and saturday that's a little my shit you also can't schedule for labor day weekend you also got to figure out what the

Speaker 4 problem. He's probably in a group.

Speaker 1 I'd be cheating on you. He's in a draft with losers

Speaker 4 that

Speaker 4 don't have Labor Day plans. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You got to really drill down and find out which friend group is in which draft because I bet one of these is with internet strangers that he doesn't even know.

Speaker 1 This also, I mean, I am that loser now that I'm thinking about it because I was supposed to go to a lake house on Saturday and I was like, college football.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of games.

Speaker 1 I just want to be sitting in my basement.

Speaker 1 My husband asked me to pick a horse right before he placed a bet. I told him to put $10 on a horse, and five minutes later, he won $100 on my pick.

Speaker 1 When I told him he needs to split the winnings with me, he laughed and said, no. He insists I would not have given him half if he lost.
Don't you agree?

Speaker 1 I deserve some compensation as his gambling guru.

Speaker 1 He brings up a good point.

Speaker 1 She wouldn't have given him money if he lost.

Speaker 1 So that doesn't.

Speaker 1 This actually reminds me of when

Speaker 1 we did an ad deal early Barstool, Bellator, and we had to live tweet the event. And I, of course, bet every single fight, lost every fight.
Last fight of the night, I went like double or nothing

Speaker 1 on a favorite like minus like 400. Lost that.
Lost like 10 grand. And I said to Dave, like, hey, I wouldn't have bet this if we

Speaker 1 didn't have to do this ad deal. He's like, okay, but if you had won, would you have split the money with Barcelona? I was like, got me there.

Speaker 1 So you're right.

Speaker 4 You should offer to pay him $5. Yeah.
Be like, I'll pay for my half of the bet. And then he gives you half of the winnings.

Speaker 1 Also, let's be honest. When you win a bet, especially at a horse race, that $100 is not one money.
Because you're going to lose it on the next race.

Speaker 4 It's also, yeah, you're just recouping your losses.

Speaker 1 Right. You're going to lose, like, maybe if, maybe if it was the end of the day, you could make the argument that you get 50 bucks, but you've got to let him play out the whole card.

Speaker 4 I think you've got to go back and see how much money he lost on the previous races and then split those losses with him in exchange for the $50 share that you want on this bet.

Speaker 1 I don't think the husband wants that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, probably not.

Speaker 1 Probably not. You want to start digging back into the archives.
Yeah, it's going to end up being Phil Nicholson real quick. Yeah, you don't want that.
You don't want that.

Speaker 1 That is the

Speaker 1 whenever I come home from a weekend at the horse track, and it's like there's a couple times I've come home with like a big fat stack, and I'm just like, look at this. It's like, oh, where's my half?

Speaker 1 It's like, well,

Speaker 1 overall lifetime.

Speaker 4 If you weren't with me in the losses, you're not with me in the wins.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 4 Can you make a promise to the AWLs?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 That on Thursday night's show, you're going to have a positive attitude.

Speaker 1 Try harder.

Speaker 4 I just want a positive attitude.

Speaker 1 I'm so positive. And try not to be in this box.

Speaker 1 No. You guys rigged it.
How do we rig it? You can throw Thursday, and it's over.

Speaker 1 We're not going to. I've giving you my word.
We're not going to throw Thursday.

Speaker 4 I mean, you know what? I'm going to vote Hank tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Well, that also rigging. I mean, one more vote.
It's just one more vote for Hank. There's a chance that we might have to compete hard on.
If you win this Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 6 And they finished last twice. It's a tie.

Speaker 1 We'll see. Okay.
All right. Numbers.
18. 3.
69.

Speaker 1 Eight. Memes, you ever gotten it? No.

Speaker 1 One.

Speaker 1 You took three for memes? been doing it.

Speaker 1 It's the only one that hasn't been picked. I want to be on the right side of history.

Speaker 12 They've all picked.

Speaker 1 Three? Yeah. Then where the fuck is it?

Speaker 6 Remember, 26 was picked and I went crazy?

Speaker 1 Yeah. But I thought that was because three was gone.

Speaker 6 Three was picked before it was missing.

Speaker 1 Three was picked in like June. 17.

Speaker 1 Hey, that's your number.

Speaker 1 These don't matter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but people still like it. I don't think so.
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 Should we get the original one shipped?

Speaker 6 Sure. Until New York.

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 4 I would love to to see Billy try to pack that up and ship it responsibly.

Speaker 1 I was on the call, I called

Speaker 1 one of the operations people who was helping with the new studio and the old studio.

Speaker 1 And as I called her, she's like, hey, I'm in your studio arguing with Billy about how he didn't trash it and using the background. She's like, I didn't trash it.
This is their stuff.

Speaker 1 No, he specifically was everyone else. That's the Billy update for today.
It was funny. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Okay, great show, boys.

Speaker 1 Friday, I think we're going to do a fantasy football preview, and you know who that means. So get excited.
Subscribe to the YouTube. Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Hank, animal fact: Hank is the saddest animal in the animal kingdom. Oh, bother.

Speaker 1 I'm the one

Speaker 1 to say I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 1 Today is another day, but I'll find

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 I won't say

Speaker 1 someone

Speaker 1 away.

Speaker 1 Slowly learning that life is okay.

Speaker 1 Things like the same.

Speaker 1 Just a favorite word breathe away.

Speaker 1 And you're all the things I've come to to remember.

Speaker 1 I'll make

Speaker 1 you

Speaker 1 drink home.

Speaker 1 Drink on me.

Speaker 1 I'll make

Speaker 1 you

Speaker 1 drink. away

Speaker 1 the ball.