Max Homa, Vernon Davis, Reading Headlines, Mt Rushmore Of Broadcast Calls + Fyre Fest

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On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people. Our good friend Max Homa in person at Olympia Fields.

Speaker 1 We went and walked the course with him yesterday. It was awesome.
So we also got to interview him, catch up with him. We also have Vernon Davis.

Speaker 1 You all know him, one of the best tight ends of the last 20 years. Vernon Davis on the show.
We're going to do Mount Rushmore of best broadcaster calls of all time, which I'm shocked we haven't done.

Speaker 1 A lot of pressure on Jake. Did we look it up? A lot of pressure on Jake.
I'll triple check, but I think so. Triple check.

Speaker 1 I don't remember doing it. A lot of pressure on Jake.
We're going to read some headlines because there's not a ton going on.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take.

Speaker 1 Today is Friday, August 18th. And boys, I'm looking it up right now.
We have exactly, oh, it's loading. It's loading.
It's loading.

Speaker 1 There's a website countdown to kick off. It's loading.
How many days to kick off? It's 20 days, 9 hours, 42 minutes, 55 seconds. I'm rock hard right now.
20 days, less than three weeks.

Speaker 1 And I start the show this way because I think we all, I speak for everyone here. At this point in the summer, just give me football.
We're there. We're basically there already.

Speaker 1 We got preseason tonight. We've had preseason.
We're getting into the preseason takes.

Speaker 1 Some of the first injuries have started to happen. So it does feel like there's football going on.
Yes. We would never overreact to preseason takes whatsoever.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 I consider this to be football season. Hard knocks is going on, which I've had a couple days to think about hard knocks and kind of digest it for a while.

Speaker 1 Hard knocks is not what it used to be, sadly. No.
It's still interesting. You still get football.
You still get the shot of the sprinkler. You get pads hitting against each other.

Speaker 1 You get to hear football. That's kind of nice, but it's almost like you're hearing a train coming around a corner and you can feel the vibration on the tracks, but it's not quite there yet.

Speaker 1 I want that train about to run me over. I want that light right in my face.
I actually, I think the Jets, did the Jets ditch their second day of practice with the Bucs today? That was a story.

Speaker 1 That's where you know we're at with the stories. I think the Bucs showed up and they're like, wait, where are the Jets? Oh, there's training camp fights, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're at that part of the season.

Speaker 1 These guys are sick of hitting each other. They want to hit somebody else.
They finally get to hit somebody else and they get into big brawls with them. The skirmishes last about five seconds.

Speaker 1 And then depending on what kind of coach you are, you either say, this is awesome. I'm very glad that this happened.
Like Deion, who said, like, my only problem was the guys that didn't fight. Yep.

Speaker 1 Shout out Deion. Although Dion, not exactly a great, a great fighter, you wouldn't say.
He's thrown a couple punches his day, but

Speaker 1 yeah, then you get the coaches that are like, you know, I'm going to pull guys from practice if they fight. That's my rule.
Yeah. I tend to be, if you sucked last year, you want your guys fighting.

Speaker 1 If you were good last year, you don't want your guys. Keep everyone safe.
So we've been doing this the last few Fridays.

Speaker 1 We're just going to read some headlines because this is what's going on in the sports world. We are a sports podcast.
We're going to bring you the headlines that matter from all around the globe.

Speaker 1 From all around the globe. Let's start with Nuggets, Lakers, Sons, Warriors to tip NBA season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who would have thought that the reigning champions would play against the Lakers starting the season? Never would have guessed it. No, oh, sorry.

Speaker 1 For a second there, I thought the Lakers won the title. Well, because it made you think

Speaker 1 for a while there. I'm so excited about this game.
You know why, Big Cat? This is a rematch of the best NBA game of all time. Yes.

Speaker 1 And nobody ever talks about it because it was game one of, was that the Western Conference Finals? Yes. It also is a rematch of the best sweep of all time.
That's true. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Most exciting sweep of all time. Could have gone seven.
Didn't went four.

Speaker 1 So that will be fun to watch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's awesome. Great job.
Also, the NBA needs to learn a lot about sports from the NFL, namely like allow tackling and that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 And seven points. And seven points, which, yeah, that's the, we got a little bit of shit given to us by troops the other day because he's like, oh, y'all make fun of football, right?

Speaker 1 But football, it's like you score six points and it's worth on one touchdown and football, proper football,

Speaker 1 hey, blood, blood mclap, blood. If you score one goal, it's only worth one point, isn't it?

Speaker 1 it's like yeah dude don't be a idiot make your goals worth three points yeah make penalty kicks worth two yeah boom it's very easy very easy to do and you get the illusion of higher scoring but the nba needs to learn from the nfl and know how to properly do a schedule release i i had no idea that the nba schedule release was today the nfl gives us like the the announcement of the date of when the schedule release will be released then you get the official date of when the schedule release is going to be and then finally you get the schedule and don't forget the leaks too and you get the leaks.

Speaker 1 And would anyone even want to leak this? No. Well, maybe the Charger social media team could do like an anime thing for the NBA, help them out a little bit, get some buzz going.

Speaker 1 By the way, that just triggered something in my head talking about seven points for football and, you know, how soccer should change their point scoring system. Big time, big time,

Speaker 1 get your math tightened up. Because football math,

Speaker 1 you know, the first week, you want to maybe watch a preseason game and do some counting exercises, get yourself ready, figure out where you're on pace for. Yep.
Totals, math, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 And learn the channels. And learn the channels.

Speaker 1 You forgot the channels. Jake, can you remind us

Speaker 1 the week before the NFL season starts to go back and review all the new rules that have been put in place? Got it. Because there's probably like two rule changes.

Speaker 1 They did something with a kickoff, but we need to be on it. We need to be in mid-season form week one.
That's the standard that we have. I will present.

Speaker 1 I'll do a presentation to you guys from today on the show. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would like that. And then then I love Jake volunteering to do like a class project.
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 Mrs., you forgot to sign some more work. That was never me.
I get that.

Speaker 1 I get that comparison all the time on Twitter.

Speaker 1 That's never me. I would hate those people.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Why? Because they said it before you.

Speaker 1 We do need to grade Jake on a curve because for the longest time, we were comparing him to who he happened to sit next to. Correct.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, sitting next to him, it's like, yeah, of course, Jake would be that guy. But now you're your own man, Jake.
We also need a reminder, Jake, in that same episode when we do your presentation,

Speaker 1 I would like to give Hank a math quiz. Football, math quiz.
Football quiz. So we'll just shoot numbers at him and see how fast he can do it.
Got it. Just get everyone to do it.
Two weeks from today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess. That's our pre-support.
Friday, September 1st. Get ready.
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 And Max, maybe you do a slide of the new names, new places that we did a few months ago, but just maybe refresh us, okay?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'll just put together a powerful.
I'm just talking to his mic. He's not good.
We'll do all these things in one presentation. Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 All right, next headline. Sources: Thorne wins Auburn starting QB job.

Speaker 1 The second biggest story on ESPN.com right now is the Auburn starting QB job. I'm just using this as a segue to say we have college football coming up next week.
We have Andy Staples on the show.

Speaker 1 Week after, we're going to have Tom Fernelli. We don't forget about college football.
I'm actually more excited about this college football season than I've been in a very long time. Yes.

Speaker 1 I've been listening to the podcast, reading all the.

Speaker 1 So, Andy talked to us a little bit about cruising message boards. We'll have to get into that when he's actually broadcast on the show.

Speaker 1 But going to college football message boards is where you get the actual truth about sports and really life in America. I love SEC message boards.
They are the best tiger droppings. Hogville, just

Speaker 1 inject it directly into my veins. It's the lifeblood of southern culture.

Speaker 1 I've been saying that if Hogville was in charge of running our nation's defenses on 9-11 and tracking jets, they would have been able to stop it. They are the true Mark Wahlbergs.

Speaker 1 Ex-Northwestern coach coach Fitzgerald volunteers at high school. No word from Darren Revelle yet.
Interesting. I hope it's Darren Revell's high school.

Speaker 1 That would be great. That would be great.
Yeah. Interesting that Darren hasn't talked about it.
I'm surprised that he hasn't gone down to Alabama yet.

Speaker 1 He should go down there just for a week. That's the ultimate rehab assignment for a coach that is either fired or has to be removed in disgrace.

Speaker 1 Is you go to Alabama for one season, you get rehabbed, and then next thing you know, boom, new job. Just go to Walmart, buy a polo, some khakis, stand on the sideline.

Speaker 1 They'll eventually be like, oh, yeah, yeah, he's part of the team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Urban Meyers should do that too. Yeah, he should.
He absolutely should. Lions wide receiver Williams, likely out for the rest of preseason.

Speaker 1 I'm starting to think that Jameson Williams might be cursed because if you remember, he's already out for six games for gambling. And now he's out,

Speaker 1 which is a weird rule that you can play in the preseason when you're suspended from the regular season. But he was, because he was injured last year from Alabama towards ACL.

Speaker 1 So missed most of last year. They were using the preseason to try to get him rep.
So halfway through this season, they're able to get him, you know, just insert him into the offense.

Speaker 1 Now he's out again. He might be cursed.

Speaker 1 I think that he, I'm kind of, I'm going to take his side on this because Dan Campbell was saying if he's going to be suspended, if he's going to miss games, we're going to ride him so hard in the preseason in practice.

Speaker 1 He's going to be out there taking every rep. I think that he probably just got overrepped.
Yeah, he did. That can happen.
He got overrepped. He got overrepped all the time.

Speaker 1 Sources: Eagles Reddick to have thumb surgery. Damn.
Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Wait, this is breaking news. Wait, Max.
What team does he play for? It says Eagles Reddick. Oh, wow.
The Eagles.

Speaker 1 That's the same city as

Speaker 1 this is a prank. This is a prank.
No. Not a prank.
Okay, so let's click it open. Hassan Reddick to have thumb surgery.

Speaker 1 Eagles edge rusher Hassan Reddick will have surgery on his injury in the league four. We'll just put a club on it.
It's fine. The injury occurred Monday joint practice with Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 1 Although Reddick is expected to miss practice time, the Eagles are confident he'll be ready for the regular season opening against

Speaker 1 the Patriots. He didn't have that many sacks last year, right, Big Gat?

Speaker 1 None in the Super Bowl. Oh, he had 16 sacks last year.
Did he have any in the Super Bowl? No, I don't think your old defense had any Super Bowl. Fucking saw it.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 Saw. You still are upset.
Anheuser-Busch back as sponsor of Commanders. This is some real headlines.
That's Josh Harris, baby. That's the Josh Harris.
Should have done Course Light. Should have.

Speaker 1 Should have. Should have.
But there was a quote that I read from Jason Wright, friend of the program, that

Speaker 1 now people are eager to do business with the Washington franchise that were once not eager to do business with them at all. So interesting.

Speaker 1 Interesting that one guy can make that big of a difference.

Speaker 1 Yeah, things are looking good. Things are looking good.
Although it would be very funny if Anheuser-Busch, if Bud Light tried to get in.

Speaker 1 and like reverse their image because there's the rumblings of the uh the commanders changing the name back to the redskins so bud light's trying to swing they're trying to swing the pendulum the other way and and be like, look, we're in favor of going to the Redskins.

Speaker 1 Please start drinking our beer again. Yeah.
Although they're not going to change the name back to the Redskins. No, they should beat the Hawks.

Speaker 1 Last one, Chief Superfan indicted on bank robbery charges. How many times are they going to indict this guy? He's like Trump.
Yeah, this is absurd. This is a witch hunt.

Speaker 1 They just keep throwing indictments.

Speaker 1 I'll say this. It's a very politically motivated DA.

Speaker 1 I'll say this.

Speaker 1 I don't really understand what an indictment is. An indictment is when they

Speaker 1 find enough evidence to bring charges against you. So they go to...
So

Speaker 1 are you going to jail or no? That's the arraignment is when they bring you in. When you get indicted, yeah, then they bring you in and they book you at your arraignment.

Speaker 1 What's the percentage of indictments that end up in jail? I think you have to be apprehended or show up to an arraignment if you're indicted.

Speaker 1 So indictment really is they just say they basically like send you. You get a warrant.
Yeah, they send you a letter in the mail being like, hey, you ran this red light. Yeah, you get a warrant.

Speaker 1 I got indicted a lot of times in New York. Yeah, so you have charges that are formally pressed against you when you have an indictment.
I was reading some of these charges.

Speaker 1 They seem just Mickey Mouse.

Speaker 1 Does Double Jeopardy exist in this country anymore? It should. I think he got indicted on 11 charges of robbing banks.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought you were talking about Trump. No, no, no, not him.

Speaker 1 What do you think about his? About Trumpson? I actually have a piece of legal advice for Trump. Yeah.
He should flip on his son. Ooh.

Speaker 1 How funny would that be if Trump actually is the one that turns state's witness? And he's like, Don Jr. was in charge of the entire thing, sends his son to prison, Donald Trump gets off Scott Free.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, he could also just put in Jared Kushner. Jared Kushner is Tom Wombscamp.
Get rid of all.

Speaker 1 They're just sitting on a boat being like, you're going to do the time. Getting rid of your son-in-law.
Somehow, I think he hates his son more than he hates his son-in-law, though. I could see that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would just be very funny to have Trump

Speaker 1 in a court of law pointing his finger at us. He's like,

Speaker 1 I wanted to concede the election, but this son of a bitch put me up to it. I just know not to get political.
I just have indictment fatigue. It doesn't mean anything to me.

Speaker 1 I just keep seeing this word, and I'm like, tell me when something happens, because as of right now, it doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 1 What do you think Trump's weight's going to be? Because they have to weigh him in when they bring him in. Shit.
He's a hoss. He's a hoss.
He is a hoss.

Speaker 1 So I'm not going to, like, whatever his weight is. That's hoss.
I think it's... It's not fat, it's hoss.
255, like a linebacker. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's basically Brian Cushing. He's a Haas.
And then trending stuff on Twitter.

Speaker 1 The only thing I saw was we were laughing. Theo Epstein is trending because one Yankee fan said, who would you rather have be your GM next? Derek Jeter or Theo Epstein?

Speaker 1 Who would you rather have be your? And we like Derek Jeter, friend of the program, recurring guest, but who would you rather have Derek Jeter or the greatest

Speaker 1 GM guy of all time? I would rather have Derek Jeter be the GM of the Yankees from my perspective. For us, yeah, context, because Theo Epstein being the GM means the Yankees will win a World Series

Speaker 1 like five years. Yeah, Derek Cheeter, great player, maybe not that great of a general manager.

Speaker 1 People are asking.

Speaker 1 Okay. One person is.

Speaker 1 Any other stories? Any other things? I did see Chris Bosch just had to just twist the knife a little bit.

Speaker 1 He said if the Bulls were able to trade Luol Dang to the Clippers back in 2010, the big three would have happened in Chicago. That hurt.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel so stupid for that whole summer thinking that it was going to happen. You really did? Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think Chicago, New York. I can't remember if there was another.

Speaker 1 I mean, Cleveland obviously thought LeBron was going to stay. I think the Knicks had a chance.
No, it's in New York. Yeah, yeah.
Chicago, New York. Yeah.
Wait, you're saying you wanted that to happen?

Speaker 1 At the time? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would have had to be a LeBron fan. Yeah, that's basically what that means.
No, yeah. I mean, this was 13 years ago, so he's done a lot bad for the World Texas.

Speaker 1 Is this your first time listening to Big Cat talk about sports?

Speaker 1 If he get a great player on his team, I just want to say it. Completely flip his opinion and figure out a way to spin his way into moving.
He's hard for that. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just wanted you to say you would have been a huge LeBron. We were all connecting the dots being like, it's going to happen.
It's going to happen. And it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 It's kind of crazy that Wade played here. Like,

Speaker 1 very briefly. I think he played for the Cavs, too.
Yes, he did. Which is weird.
Wait, Dwayne Wade played for the Cavs

Speaker 1 last year. We should put together a list.
He came back to Miami. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 We should put together a list of, holy shit, I forgot that guy played there. Yeah.
Okay. Oh, Mount Rushmore of it.
Yeah, that's a good one. Monday.
Love it. Mount Rushmore of holy shit.

Speaker 1 That guy played there. Okay.
Yes. That's great.

Speaker 1 Okay. Anything else? Before we get to our interviews, we have great interviews, great Mount Rushmore coming.

Speaker 1 I can't think of anything. It's football season.
It's football. Football's back.
Football's so back. We've done some great football interviews coming up.
I know people are like, oh, another golfer.

Speaker 1 First of all, I'll have Max Home on whenever he wants because I think the best interviews we do are the guys that we're genuinely friends with. And second of all, we have football coming.

Speaker 1 We got so much football coming. You're going to be football coming out of your fucking eyeballs.
You're asshole. Yeah, I mean, shit.
Football. There is the Women's World Cup finals this weekend.
What?

Speaker 1 Oh, I saw U.S. part of the ways with the coach.
Wait, of course. They're still playing, though? Yeah, they're still playing.
You didn't watch that.

Speaker 1 The England game was pretty good, actually, the other day.

Speaker 1 The minute we were out, the tournament was canceled. No, it was awesome.
No, I think it's coming home.

Speaker 1 When and where? It's England against Spain in the finals. And then it's.
When? It's that's Sunday morning. What time?

Speaker 1 Way too early. And then there's a constellation match, which take the over on the consolation match.
Yeah. Those games always have a lot of goals.

Speaker 1 For full disclosure,

Speaker 1 I'm 0-12 in the Women's World Cup game. I lost some

Speaker 1 0-12. Haven't won a single bet.
Mr. Women is just not working out this time around.
But women are very mysterious to me in general. 5 a.m.?

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's local, Eastern.

Speaker 1 No, definitely not local. The computer does it for you.
Yeah, so that's 5 a.m. Chicago, so 6 a.m.
Eastern. Okay, so I'm taking the over in the consolation match, and then I'm taking a tie.

Speaker 1 I'm taking a draw at the end of regulation in the finals because FIFA's rigged. People forget that.
That's a great sleep bet. Yeah.
A draw? Well, I'll wake up. I'll wake up at about 7 a.m.

Speaker 1 as the game's ending. Yeah.
And I'll get to see, hopefully, overtime. Yeah, sleep bets, sleep bets, play.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Max Homa, then Vernon Davis.
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Okay, here he is, Max Homa.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our very, very good friend. It is Max Homa.
We're at the FedEx Cup playoffs at Olympia Fields, the second-to-last tournament.

Speaker 1 I want to congratulate you, by the way, for making the cut this weekend. So, congratulations on that.
There is no cut.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I didn't think you were going to congratulate me on getting an honorable mention for the Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 You got honorable mention, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was big. This is now, see, this is the problem with doing that, Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 Every single guest that we truly love comes on, they're like, so that's how you feel about it.

Speaker 3 Hank's in trouble with Edelman.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so way more than that. Yes, we would have picked you, but he made us pick.

Speaker 3 I know. I heard it too.

Speaker 1 In a podcast that's filled with bad ideas, that was by far and away our worse.

Speaker 1 We ranked our friends

Speaker 1 publicly. We were like, hey,

Speaker 1 here are our friends. But yes, we're here.

Speaker 1 Big weekend. Very excited for you.
We got to walk with you. We got to walk behind you, watch how the sausage gets made.
You looked,

Speaker 1 I'll say this, watch doing the pro-am and seeing you play up close. You do actually have to put the ball into the hole.
I noticed you weren't doing that every single hole. So that's a tip.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was scooping a lot of them. We get this lovely thing in pro-am day where par is your friend.

Speaker 3 Worst you can make us para. You feel real good going into Thursday.

Speaker 1 I need to put. Yeah.
Parr is your friend. Yeah.
I saw you warming up when you were putting out of the putting green. I I think I figured out your little stance that you do.

Speaker 1 You got your legs spread apart. You're trying to

Speaker 1 feel the undulations of the green. And then you do this little flex thing with your knees.
And that's where you figure out what the slope is. Separator, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because is it like one knee stops bending before the other, and that's how you can figure out which way it's going?

Speaker 3 I think, yeah.

Speaker 3 You obviously can see part of a slope, and I feel like I'll go in there kind of sideways, and when I do the little cool knee thing, I feel like I come back at zero, so then I could actually feel what it really is.

Speaker 3 So I don't let myself

Speaker 1 lay down on the green.

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 3 That actually is not a bad idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What about a level? Can you put a level up?

Speaker 3 No, that's one level. Yeah, that's why I practice my feet because I use a level to help.

Speaker 1 I was saying, if you do a level, you could just roll a ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just roll a card.

Speaker 1 Or just what you should do is just put levels in your shoes that only you can see. That's actually not a bad idea.

Speaker 1 Is that aim point? Are you in the middle?

Speaker 1 Nice, dude. Yeah, I watched a YouTube video.
Nice, dude. And I did it.
I tried it. And I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 I stood there and I was like, you're supposed to guess the thing from one to three and then you do the.

Speaker 3 Guess is probably not the right way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, that's what I was doing.

Speaker 1 I went out and I was like, oh, I'm going to do aimpoint. It did nothing for me.

Speaker 3 You sound like

Speaker 3 everybody I meet that does. I saw a YouTube video and I tried it and this is my thing now.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I aimpointed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's how I feel like I'll watch a YouTube video before I go to sleep about golf, and then I'll think about it in my sleep, and I'll wake up the next day and be like, that was a great practice session.

Speaker 1 I just said now I'm getting it.

Speaker 3 It's like back in what they say in high school or college, if you slept with the book under your pillow, you'd learn it by osmosis.

Speaker 1 I believe that.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. I believe that 100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or just, you know, take a bunch of Adderall and lock yourself in the library.
That too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, same thing. Same thing.
But, all right, so I know the season isn't complete because we have this big weekend and hopefully next weekend. But overall, what would you rank your game right now?

Speaker 1 Like out of 10? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do it in the balls method. Glennie Balls.
out of five

Speaker 1 five balls is the max like

Speaker 3 four point

Speaker 1 three okay that's pretty good 4.3 balls like to leave a little room for now yeah so if you are like if you're judging your game is there do you have you ever played at a five or is it like 4.5 is the best and then you just need a couple lucky breaks yeah i've probably never

Speaker 3 I've probably never played at a five. I've probably had days that were a five.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 This darn game, man, you play four days, so you always feel like an idiot one of them.

Speaker 3 Uh, but yeah, so yeah, you usually get lucky, especially when you win, you get lucky a bunch and uh things seem to go your way.

Speaker 3 Uh, yeah, I would love to play at a five once for four days to know if it feels like that'd be so cool.

Speaker 1 I would imagine play well, no, when you when you broke the record at uh LA Country Club, that was probably a

Speaker 3 home course, though.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, we call it a track, actually. It's a track,

Speaker 1 we defended you because we love you.

Speaker 1 Um, that is part of that, that actually is the good news because when we do the Mount Rushmore and we forget you or people yell at you on the course, those are the bad sides, but we defend you on the other sides.

Speaker 1 People were coming at you for practicing after the U.S.

Speaker 3 Open. That was a wild.

Speaker 3 Yeah, can you explain it to people?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like it was a totally regular thing that people are like, what the hell? It's almost like the dream meme. He thinks he's on the team.

Speaker 3 That was one of those.

Speaker 3 Felt like I had a good nice, I was really, really bummed out Friday, like really bummed out. And so I went and practiced Saturday.

Speaker 3 That was one of those moments where I flipped my phone on and I saw people saying, why is he practicing? What a look at me moment. And that was when it was like, all right, no phone for a while.

Speaker 1 This is bad.

Speaker 3 So I don't think it's

Speaker 3 very rare or weird. My coach is at the golf course.

Speaker 3 So I would like to practice with him.

Speaker 3 The balls and everything are set up. I would still need to call.
Sunday I went and played golf with my friends Greg and Mark and all them and we got to go to their golf course.

Speaker 3 But Saturday morning I was like, oh, I'd like to get some working because I I missed the cut.

Speaker 3 My coach is not going to drive all over Los Angeles while he's also coaching people playing on the weekend.

Speaker 3 And then when other people said, why then are you wearing your logos?

Speaker 1 Those are the only shirts I brought because I thought I was going to make the cut.

Speaker 1 So it wasn't like a J.J. Watt moment, like bringing the cameras out.
No.

Speaker 1 If anything, it's Mamba mentality. Yeah.
Always trying to grind and get back.

Speaker 3 If anything, it's, I don't know why they were filming me when I missed the cut. You should go film somebody else.

Speaker 1 Well, it's also a very simple rule of like, did you post about it? No. So clearly, like, he, if, if no one had posted that you were there, no one would have

Speaker 1 known. So it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 3 I just tried to get in, get some work, get out. I'm just trying to get better at this game.
You can't yell at me because I lost money on your bets and then also yell at me for practicing.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's fair.
That's fair. And also, I think people in a weird way are like, well, he probably took a practice spot from someone who's competing.
I went as far down the left as I could.

Speaker 1 I wanted nothing to do with all the people who were beating my ass all week.

Speaker 3 I wanted to just live in anonymity over there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, we do have to respect you now because you did finish top 10 at a major. That was huge.
That was so open championship. That was very big.
I felt it. It was big.
I felt it too in my bank account.

Speaker 1 It was amazing. So thank you for that, Max.
You're welcome.

Speaker 3 Very proud of you. You're welcome.

Speaker 1 So you feel like are you playing the best golfer your life?

Speaker 3 It's been, this year has been for sure the most consistent. I don't feel like I have a glaring weakness.
You still go through lulls where it sucks.

Speaker 3 But for the most part, I feel like when I'm playing good, yeah, Hartford, that was Thursday was a tough one. Well, when

Speaker 1 you did text me at like two two in the morning, you're like, hey, are you in New York this weekend? I'm like Friday night. And I was like, oh, Max is going through it.
I was going through it.

Speaker 3 Back-to-back miscuts.

Speaker 1 I was like, I don't think you want to come down to New York.

Speaker 3 Well, so

Speaker 3 have you guys met Colt Nost? No. Colt Nost, he works out here.

Speaker 3 He does all the encore stuff. And his wife, Natalie, who I'm close with, she had come in for Colt's birthday.
And so she doesn't do anything while he's at the golf course.

Speaker 3 So she's like, we should go have a girls' day in New York and do all this stuff. I'm like, cool, we're going to.
I mean, this was at at 1 a.m. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 We're going to go have a spa day and do the whole thing. I was like, oh, man, I've never gotten to see the bar so office, man.
I'll do that. So I text you at two and I woke up.

Speaker 1 I'm like, there's a 0% chance I'm heading all the way to New York. I saw it when I woke up at like 6.30 and I was like, yeah, I don't think this is a text that was sent with sound mind.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I've been doing better with the drunk texting as I've gotten to be in my 30s, but that was definitely a bold, dumb decision.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm honored that I got a U-UP drunk texting.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so it's been, you said it's been the most consistent year.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it definitely has felt really good. I feel like when I'm playing well, I've had good results, and when I haven't, I've turned those into like top 25s.
I'm pretty proud of.

Speaker 3 I'd always, even in years past, when I had had good seasons, last year was my best season up until this one. I didn't have a ton of top tens, but my high finishes were really good.

Speaker 3 This year, I'm at 10 top 10s. I was really proud of that.
So it's definitely been better.

Speaker 3 There's obviously a lot of great golfers I got to continue to catch up to, but it's been nice to just see the see some of that consistency translating to the results.

Speaker 1 And you're in sixth or seventh place? What are you in right now? Sixth, sixth place. So you probably don't know this off the top of your head.

Speaker 1 How much money does that translate to if you finish in sixth?

Speaker 3 Like 2.5 million, probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you do know it. Yeah.
That's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 I got fifth last year, so I know what the

Speaker 3 base is.

Speaker 1 It's crazy the amount of money that they put into the FedEx Cup. Yeah.
Absolutely like that.

Speaker 3 Someone asked us why we go to Memphis. One of my buddies asked me, why did we go to Memphis last week because it was hot as the sun?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you said you wanted to rip all the hair off your body.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if I had enough time, I think I could have done it.

Speaker 1 Just shave, yeah.

Speaker 3 Smoothest go for it. I mean, FedEx is there, and I mean, the least we can do for FedEx is play in their backyard.
It's not like the

Speaker 3 biggest ask, although I would like it if they could somehow

Speaker 1 turn the AC on just a little bit.

Speaker 1 How was your pants situation last week?

Speaker 3 I wore white on Sunday. So smart.

Speaker 3 Because LG did not get the memo.

Speaker 1 I mean, they were just following him around.

Speaker 3 He was wearing like, it looked like he was wearing the thickest.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 3 On Friday was hotter than Sunday, and I wore a dark because I was talking to Joe Pryor. This is stuff, stuff, this is the inside baseball.
I was like, what color pants do I wear tomorrow?

Speaker 3 Because we were Sunday was going to be worse. He goes, basically, I thought about it.
I was like, I'm going to save white for Sunday. But I had these dark grays.
He goes, go dark.

Speaker 3 And I looked at him on like the, maybe like the 12th hole, and he was wearing just the worst gray color you could wear. And I was like, in my head, I looked at him.

Speaker 3 I was like, it looks like he pissed himself. And I looked down and I said, it looks like I pissed myself.

Speaker 1 So it was a tight scene. It was very hot.
And we were talking earlier on the course about one of the programs that you got to play in. You were paired up with Chris Berman.
Oh, yeah. Which is amazing.

Speaker 1 Like, you can't draw that up any better. And he's obviously known for being a sweaty guy on the golf course.
But you were saying that he shot the round of his life. It was the best I've ever.

Speaker 3 He was on fire. I think we became good friends because of it.

Speaker 3 It was the, I've seen him play at Pebble for the celebrity pro-am for the AT ⁇ T. And I've been out there and I've watched him.
And I mean, he is the most happy-go-lucky. Like, you guys know him.

Speaker 3 He's the best dude.

Speaker 3 But he just, like, he doesn't move great anymore. Uh, and I went out there and I was not expecting a 10 just from what I'd seen, and he played unbelievable.

Speaker 3 So, uh, yeah, I think, I think, uh, future pro-ams, we might be linked because I might be his

Speaker 3 rabbit's foot at this point.

Speaker 1 His muse, yeah, he just needs, needs a little max touch, the first max touch. I like that, Max.

Speaker 1 I want to, I want to bring this up because we do take every opportunity to dump on you when we bet on you, and you finished outside the top 10 out of major. Uh, you so mean

Speaker 1 all of them at once. No, this is good.
This is good. This is good.
You finished fourth in the Comcast Business Tour top 10. You bet on that? That's like

Speaker 1 I didn't bet on it, unfortunately. I didn't know that I could bet on it, but that's like a sneaky couple mil that isn't talked about that much.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and it's like a super top 10. I know it's not a major, but like

Speaker 3 think about it. One week of golf, you get top 10.
That's good. But think about like 30 weeks of golf here, top four.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 That's basically better than winning a major.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. Yeah, good point.
Yeah, it is. It is.
So congratulations for that. I want to make sure to bring that up.

Speaker 1 There's another thing that I just learned today, too, because we have this handy-dandy PR sheet. So I looked through it, just planning on asking you like the most generic questions I could find here.

Speaker 1 But I learned something about you that I don't think you've ever, you've shared with us before, maybe have.

Speaker 1 You got a phone call from Tommy Lasorda. Oh, yeah.
What? Yeah. So you're obviously.

Speaker 1 Oh, I know. Well, actually, we are in the afterlife as well.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 So I have a, it's a funny story. R.I.P.
to Tommy. He was awesome.
And the original go. So I met him doing an inside the PJ tour shoot.
We got to, they took Joe and I to Dodger Stadium. It was awesome.

Speaker 3 It was empty. We got to run around the bases like little kids.
It was the most fun day. And then they said, you know, Tommy Lasorda is in office.
Would you like to meet him? And I said, of course.

Speaker 3 And he made a deal with me that day that if I ever won, he would call me. And I did not think that was going to happen.
So I was in the press conference and they said that there's a phone call for me.

Speaker 3 And at that, obviously, I was not thinking about that. And at that point, I answered the phony, you know, raspy voice.

Speaker 1 He's like, Max, it's Tommy Lasorda. I always knew you could do it.

Speaker 3 But my favorite part of that story is, you know, Tommy's getting up there in age. And

Speaker 3 he I walk in his office, I introduce myself, and you know, I say I'm Max. He goes, Max, I love that name.
And then he's telling me a story and he's going to sign something for me.

Speaker 3 And he asked me six times what my name was. And the last time he said it at the beginning, and then the very last time he goes, oh, Max, I love that name.

Speaker 3 And I looked at Joe, and I was laughing so hard because it was just like the most perfect.

Speaker 3 You always want like a story when you meet the legends and kind of your heroes growing up and it's like we finally got a story. He

Speaker 1 I think he was probably the oldest person we ever interviewed.

Speaker 1 It was awesome that he was able to do it before he passed, but it was a great interview where you're like, this guy has so many great stories, but we realized the interview was over when he like went back to story one and he just started telling it like he'd never told it.

Speaker 1 We're like, well, we'll hear it again because it's awesome. There's a good time.
It's time you kicked a Philly Fanatics ass. That was most of the stories I told were just about different fights.

Speaker 1 It's great.

Speaker 3 I'm sure those run together. There's a really really cool old video.

Speaker 3 I can't remember if I was watching on TV or was at the game, but

Speaker 3 he got to do the It's Time for Dodger baseball. That's how

Speaker 3 we as Dodger fans start the game. Somebody gets on the mic and does it, and he got up there and they handed him his mic.
And I don't know the woman with him, but she's standing next to him.

Speaker 3 And you're literally, I've done it once. You're literally just supposed to yell, It's Time for Dodger baseball.

Speaker 3 Obviously, Tommy says some more things as he should, but then he gets into like a rant of a speech.

Speaker 1 And the woman takes the mic and goes, It's time for Dodger baseball.

Speaker 3 It was awesome.

Speaker 1 That's the best. Yeah, he's an ultimate dude.
Um, all right, we met Joe, your caddy. We squashed you guys, completely squashed the beef.
Yeah, we squashed the beach. I like Joe.

Speaker 1 He doesn't, yeah, he, I was, I was afraid that he hates us. He doesn't, he, he told me.

Speaker 3 I didn't want to warn you that he, that he told me last week that he squashed the beef already by listening to you.

Speaker 1 Oh, he just mentally squashed the beef.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he told me, goes, man, I did it. I caved.
It's football season. I have to listen.

Speaker 1 They're my favorite podcasts. I have to listen.
That's, I mean, that's a good grudge that you just stopped listening.

Speaker 1 But anyway, so, so obviously, there's no, are people saying the P word? They are? Yeah. So we have to stop it.
I mean, sure.

Speaker 1 I mean, they have to stop it.

Speaker 1 We're telling you, we've told you before directly, no more P word. Yeah.
Like,

Speaker 1 it's actually bothering me. So the other thing is I saw that you also, we might not like spicy meatball anymore.

Speaker 3 It's not that, it has nothing to do with not liking spicy meatball, but when I feel, I almost do feel bad in a way because I'll have people

Speaker 3 yell it or yell something and then that joke is, it's over, like any joke It's like it's the 50th time I've heard it right like so it's not as funny and they expect me to laugh It's like I played with Brooks one time I actually played with him the day he dyed his hair remember we bleached

Speaker 1 on the very first That's the dude equivalent of just like cutting your bang

Speaker 3 Midlife crisis big time So we got walk up the tea we played with him day before normal hair or his regular hair and he walks up the team like takes his hat off to kind of like you know brush back his hair and we're like whoa that is not what you had yesterday so we started talking about it and one of the guys in the crowd yells will the real slim shady please stand up?

Speaker 3 And it was pretty funny because it was like hit him. Everyone at least gave a chuckle.
Well, then by the 15th hole, we've now heard that joke 700 times to the point where it's not funny anymore.

Speaker 3 And then they look at us almost like we're being rude. So that's how I am with spicy meatball.
You guys are funny, and you came up with a funny thing, Spicy Meatball.

Speaker 3 And you said, say something like spicy meatball. Right.
So everyone said, yep, that's spicy meatball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So we need to.

Speaker 3 I just like the original. I like some original.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the original.

Speaker 3 If you want me to laugh, I mean, if that's what you're going for, the laugh, if you just want to rep that you listen to part of my take, that's cool too.

Speaker 3 But I just feel bad because I'm not going to laugh because I hear it. Hear it all the time.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, maybe we just have a good, good drive max.

Speaker 1 You're going to love that.

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 1 yeah, you're going to love that. Always plays, good or bad.
By the way, I just want to just, for people listening, if you heard someone taking a piss,

Speaker 1 it was my nephew who I brought out to the golf course today. He's six.
He just went and took a piss.

Speaker 1 It was awesome. It was very fun.
Nice work. So we need to find something more original.

Speaker 3 Yeah, just, I mean, you could go with Spicy Me Ball, whatever you want. I'm anti-P-word.
I will not laugh. Yeah.
Or I don't condone it. I'm not cool with that one.

Speaker 3 Spicy Me Ball, I'm cool with. You're probably not going to get a reaction.
If you're looking for a reaction, maybe just come up with your own joke.

Speaker 1 And we should also just remind people that Max is doing his job. I am aware of it.
It's a very stressful job. So maybe, you know, after the round of Spicy Meat

Speaker 1 works. Again, I'm cool.

Speaker 3 Support. I'm very thankful for the support.
I'm very thankful for the support I've gotten strictly just through this podcast and my friendship with you guys. It's been awesome.
But yeah, I don't,

Speaker 3 I also am trying to

Speaker 1 win.

Speaker 1 Right. And we actually care about you as much as the bad stuff we say.
Like, I do. I am like, when I'm watching you, I feel like it's you have.

Speaker 1 The best comment I can give you is we have a few relationships through the years with this podcast where it becomes a situation where like I'm rooting for someone more than just like, oh yeah, that guy's been on the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Like I'm actually like, I want you to win.
I want you to do well.

Speaker 3 So you're rooting for Dak Prescott this year.

Speaker 1 Dak Prescott is not on that list. The list is not.

Speaker 1 I would say it's basically you. It's you,

Speaker 1 it's Josh. You know what? You're not a Mount Rushmore recurring guest.
You're a Mount Rushmore human being. Yes.
That's more of a. You know what, man? No, but it's like you, Josh.

Speaker 1 That really hit me, man. Thank you.
Yeah, yeah. It's you, Josh.
I almost said something unintentionally mean. I don't mean this as a mean thing.
It's going to hit me with it.

Speaker 1 You're a better human being than you are a golfer. Perfect.
I love that. Well, it's

Speaker 1 hard. Maybe once in a while I'd like you to be kind of a dick and a better golfer.
Sure, yeah.

Speaker 3 I would also love that.

Speaker 1 It's hard because our reflex is mean because that's what we do. We bust balls on the show.
We even had it today when you were walking up one of the fairways and a random woman was like, Max,

Speaker 1 I love you. I'm a huge fan.
You're amazing. And I just blurted out.
I was like, well, he's seven, so he's not amazing. He's like very good.
He's actually six. I was like, why did I say that?

Speaker 1 No, but it's good.

Speaker 3 I mean, it's, it's, I, that's guys being guys, dudes being dudes. Right.
That's how that's how we show affection. But we do.
If you were only nice to me, I would be

Speaker 1 lame.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be lame. But yeah, we do very much care.
So we want everyone to root for Max and be original. And also remember he's doing his job.

Speaker 3 Speaking of the recurring guest, you guys met Brian Harmon today?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And you got deep into the mega core.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It was a mega friendship.

Speaker 3 I got to play with him last week.

Speaker 3 I had just never really noticed his hat, I guess, before, and then that's all I could say.

Speaker 1 It's all week. Also, because I'm staring.

Speaker 3 It's just.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's direct highline.
He's a short kid. His catty's also like 6'5.
It doesn't.

Speaker 3 He's in country.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What's his name? Country.
Country. That's big country? That's just country.
Big country.

Speaker 1 I could tell he was the man, too, because we were talking to Brian Harmon for like 10 minutes and he didn't say a word, and then he just said something like very funny at the end. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He doesn't talk.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's a quality over quantity guy.

Speaker 3 I mean, I've known him for a while now, and he's awesome. Brian's great.
Like, we have a really good relationship, so I'd love playing with him.

Speaker 3 But country's like, words per round are very low, but they always hit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I went up to him, and they looked at us.
They didn't recognize us because we've just interviewed him over Zoom one time, so we don't have like an established relationship.

Speaker 1 I walked up to him, and his caddy looked like he was going to step forward and take his shit. And so I just put that.
He's got that.

Speaker 1 I was like, Mega Corp.

Speaker 1 Are the Mega Corps? Oh, yeah, they're the Megacorp.

Speaker 3 Did you, by chance, meet JT Poston today? No. Do you know his caddy, Aaron Fleener's nickname is Big Cat?

Speaker 1 It's been Big Cat for forever. Yeah.
I got to meet him. Yeah, so we were.

Speaker 3 He was asking if you guys were out or if I was going to see you guys, and I said you were going to be here today because we figured you guys had to to link up.

Speaker 1 How much of the guys on the tour are you like going to dinner with and stuff? That always is interesting to me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it's like you obviously are competing for dollars, and you're like, if you get matched up with someone that you're friends with on a Sunday, it's like no conversation, I would assume.

Speaker 1 So, like, are you, do you try to keep a distance, or are you like, no, I'm with these, these guys know my life better than anyone else.

Speaker 3 As most things go, it's who my wife wants to go to dinner with or who she's friends with. Your manager.

Speaker 1 My manager.

Speaker 3 She she's very or not, she sorry. This golf thing is interesting.
There's definitely like a handful of guys I would be friends with if we didn't all play golf, if we didn't all work together.

Speaker 3 And then the rest I get along with, but probably not well enough to just like go to dinner. Right.
So I don't do it a ton, but there's a handful of guys I'll

Speaker 3 try to link up, especially if everyone's kind of solo. And because nobody, I mean, I have a nine-month-old.
Nobody's grinding dinner with me at the moment.

Speaker 1 Right. Wait, so if you get linked up on a Sunday, say you're like, I don't know, fourth or fifth, and you're with like one of your closest friends, is there no conversation?

Speaker 3 It actually depends the person. So Colin, I would, I would say Colin and JT are like my closest friends out here.

Speaker 3 And when me and me and Justin play, like we played Travelers together, we'll talk a lot.

Speaker 3 And there's moments where you can kind of tell, like maybe, you know, he was playing great on Friday and I was trying to make the cut.

Speaker 3 And it kind of felt like one of those, like, I'm going to, we both kind of like. went our separate ways.
And Colin and I are super close and I love playing with him.

Speaker 3 And we played the open together a couple weeks ago. We talked talked a lot, but we played the

Speaker 3 final round at the Farmers this year, and we barely talked.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 3 And it's just because you kind of get in grooves where like, you know, if one guy's playing really great, you

Speaker 3 sometimes, if they get near the lead, you almost kind of stay away a little bit, let them kind of do their thing. And then if they're not playing well, you also kind of take a step back.

Speaker 3 But if it's a Thursday, Friday, you're kind of chatting the whole time. But I noticed Colin and I really didn't talk much at all until after.
And it was nothing weird.

Speaker 3 It was just one of those we both kind of, I think we were.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So we wanted to we were like competing and and he's uh uh he had that game face on, so I was like, I'm gonna

Speaker 1 be smart my distance. It's kind of it's we're very stupid sports fans, and when you were talking about like, oh, Thursday was a little bit more relaxed, Friday more relaxed, weekend more serious.

Speaker 1 The strokes count the same on Thursday

Speaker 3 on Sunday. I've actually been trying to do a better job of that.
I noticed like if I want to talk, start talking. Like, if it's going to help me,

Speaker 3 that's all that really matters. Uh, the only thing was, is last week I played with Tommy Fleetwood on Sunday, and

Speaker 3 he has this

Speaker 3 mini driver thing. And

Speaker 3 I've played with a couple people that have had it, and I haven't really seen anybody hit it that great. He hit it unbelievable, at least when I played with him, and he hit unbelievable.

Speaker 3 And on 17, he hit it, and he was right next to Leed. I think he was one back.

Speaker 3 And he hit it right down the fairway. And I almost went to go tell him, like, oh, I've just seen a lot of people seem to hit that left.
Like, I was going to ask him, what do you do different to not?

Speaker 3 And, but the next hole has water like all down the left. I'm like, I'm going to wait down this hole.
So he teed off 18. I I said, took a lot in me not to talk to you about this, but like I asked him.

Speaker 3 So you try to pick your spots, but it gets,

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 For me, like, I've been big on the, hey, if you're going to treat Thursday like it's just a walk in the park, like try to treat Sunday like that as well, Saturday too.

Speaker 3 And if you're struggling, maybe talk your way out of it a little bit and go back to enjoying your day. But it is tricky.
Everyone's different. It's nice being out here long enough.

Speaker 3 You kind of know the guys who like to talk and the guys who don't. So if they don't like to talk, poor Joe, I end up just talking to Joe the entire time, wearing him out.

Speaker 1 He gets it all

Speaker 1 therapists. I like Joe a lot.
I felt bad when I was talking to him. I was like, I would hate us too.

Speaker 3 Well, Joe's even mentioned it, though. Joe's mentioned, he goes, I hate that I like basically took it out on like Big Head and PFT because he goes, I love them.
Like, I love their podcast.

Speaker 3 He goes, I just don't like what...

Speaker 3 He deals with it more than I do.

Speaker 3 I can shut it off and just keep walking. And I'm sure he looks at them.

Speaker 3 I've heard him say things to people, like, you know, basically shut the fuck up.

Speaker 3 So he deals with a lot more of it than I do.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Are you still doing the No Fox Given on your globe? Wait, wait, we don't know that's the.
Oh, yeah, sorry. NFG.
In FG. I have no idea what it means.

Speaker 3 I have like the, I've read a couple

Speaker 3 different versions of that. There's been, I can't think of them off the top of my head, but there's been some good

Speaker 3 other guesses.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. People are guessing? Yeah.
You should just start doing random letters and have everyone just try to guess what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 Not a fucking garden.

Speaker 1 That's a good one.

Speaker 1 We made a very inappropriate joke about that that I won't repeat. But you can go back and listen to it.
I I made a guess at what it meant.

Speaker 1 You're going to be in the Ryder Cup this year.

Speaker 3 Well, I remember your joke now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of pressure. A lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 Now you're not competing for your bank account. You're competing for America, which is way, a way bigger deal.
You're going back to the homeland, back to

Speaker 1 the home track. You're turning on Europe? That's your home track.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So have you thought about, have you allowed yourself to think that far in advance where you're like, the Ryder Cup's coming up.
This is going to be cool.

Speaker 3 Honestly, not till last week. I've been trying to, I mean, I've been in the getting a pick category this whole time.

Speaker 3 I felt like last week, open really, but last week solidified it, where now I think it would be crazy if I didn't, but you never know.

Speaker 3 But yeah, so I started to kind of dream about it last week. It would be amazing.
I've watched it so much on TV. And

Speaker 3 last year at the President's Cup, I was playing with Billy Horschel and his caddy at the time. He's played Fooch.
He's been to a bunch of Ryder Cups. And he said, Are you having fun?

Speaker 3 And I said, This is the coolest thing I've ever done. And he goes, Well, the next time it's hot in Arizona or the next time you don't want to practice, go practice.

Speaker 3 Because I promise you, the Ryder Cup's 10 times crazier than this. And I can't really imagine what that's like because last year was insane at the President's Cup.

Speaker 3 So, yes, I'm both nervous and excited, but it'll be fun. Playing for your country's wild.
I've done it twice now, and it is insane.

Speaker 3 So, to have a whole, it'll be crazy to do it over there where they're going to hate us, which is also kind of fun. I've only ever done it on our soil where you feel like the king of the world.

Speaker 1 We can't stop them from saying no, they say whatever they're saying.

Speaker 1 They're probably just ordering. I'm going to look over and be like, oh, this guy knows me.

Speaker 3 And they're ordering ordering their

Speaker 1 concessions then.

Speaker 1 That would be sick. I wonder if they do that.

Speaker 1 We do pretzels and they do pasta dishes. Spicy beatballs.
Wait, so do you...

Speaker 1 Do you talk to some of the guys that are going to be on the team? Have you guys had a conversation like, hey, this is coming up? Yeah. Like, start game planning? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Just curious of who's going to play with who. They do a lot of,

Speaker 3 they have statisticians who kind of like pick who you play with, but we all have like preferences of, you know, like

Speaker 3 Colin. Like, I'd love to play with Colin.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And things like that. So we just have talked a little bit about

Speaker 3 just like what we think would happen, but the team's still so much in flux, you don't really know

Speaker 1 how it's going to round out. We should get John Rom.

Speaker 1 He went to Arizona City. Yeah.
Like naturalized. He basically went, he was like, I'm going to go to the funnest place in America.

Speaker 3 That would be such a, that'd be a really tough sell for a trade. Yeah.

Speaker 1 To get John Wrong. Yeah, we get John Wrong.
Our Fleetwood, he's got a mullet. Yeah.
Yeah. That's pretty.

Speaker 1 He looks

Speaker 1 in Alabama. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's no difference. Yeah.
Are you a visualization guy?

Speaker 3 Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 1 Here's a great headline. Just visualize this headline.
Ready? After the Ryder Cup's over.

Speaker 1 Land of the free and the homa the brave.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's good.

Speaker 1 We think about that.

Speaker 3 That's really good. Did you guys ever see the old picture? There was a couple years ago at the Open Championship.
Kevin Kissner showed up the first day with a 1776 hat on.

Speaker 1 Oh, love it. That's awesome.
Love it.

Speaker 1 It's crazy because I feel like this one, especially, like everyone's talking, oh, who's going to make the U.S. team? Like, the Europe team is so much better.

Speaker 1 It feels like you guys are going to be the underdogs. Yeah.
So, what better than underdogs on a road game?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 3 we haven't won on the road since like the early 90s.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Yeah.
Holy shit.

Speaker 3 But our team last two years ago, they absolutely dominated. It was like one of the most dominating

Speaker 3 performances ever. A U.S.

Speaker 1 won, like, they won by like like 13 yeah turrel hatton said that it was because of covid well make an excuse yeah he said it was because of covid because there were no european fans over there yeah and so he's like it was the american fans and they were being loud and it was it was obscene basically sounds like an excuse yeah sounds like an excuse sounds like an excuse although i'm leaning into that excuse yeah

Speaker 1 oh absolutely yeah absolutely these we'll spend some of it for you that's no problem yeah no if you're an american golf fan you should start planning that vacation right now what a great trip that would yeah it would be awesome this is it was weird i've had a few people say oh i'm coming to Rome and this and that.

Speaker 3 And I think to myself, that's wild, but I guess it makes sense. I mean,

Speaker 3 Italy's awesome.

Speaker 3 Went for the first time last year. The food is a joke.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's incredible. We get it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, we're being spicy meatball guys. I'm not Italian, but I'm a

Speaker 1 Italian children. So that counts.
It does count. Yeah.
One of the

Speaker 1 shirt that says proud Italian father. Yeah.
You can't figure out if it means that I'm Italian or

Speaker 1 my kid's Italian, but yeah, I'm a proud Italian. I think you take that.
Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 Why not? Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Pitch me on Cal coming to the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 Because you guys are just completely lost in the wilderness. It's very easy.
What? You're going to say academics?

Speaker 3 Would you like a couple easy wins?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's true.

Speaker 3 Would you like to expand your fan base to the West Coast? Because at some point, Cal fans might turn, but they'll go straight to the Big Town.

Speaker 1 Okay, but I'm just saying, it's you. I mean, have you followed all this?

Speaker 1 It's incredible. You guys are cooks right now.
I know. It's super depressing.

Speaker 1 I do feel really bad because I watch all the conference realignment from a perspective of my team is safe, but I also know that maybe they aren't in 10 years. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, it could come for everyone who's not a big dog.

Speaker 3 I think the benefit now that I think about that Cal will bring with all the

Speaker 3 smart folks that have gone there and that go there currently is that we could help you guys change your name to Big Ten to Big However Manager, actually.

Speaker 3 Because they could do the math to figure out how big it is.

Speaker 3 Because clearly, you guys have not quite figured that one out.

Speaker 3 That doesn't seem like a hard adjustment, even if one team came big 11.

Speaker 1 We haven't been 10 for a very long time. So

Speaker 3 it seems a little bit concerning that that hasn't been adjusted.

Speaker 3 But yeah, so I think those are a couple of the couple of the few things we bring. Okay, what about this?

Speaker 1 Like, every time you beat Cal, you can just dunk on Aaron Rodgers, too. That's true.
Yeah. Okay, this helps.
No, but you're a friend zone. Yeah, no, Aaron Rodgers.
I'm a big Aaron Rodgers fan now.

Speaker 1 I am a huge Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 It'd be crazy if anybody was anti-Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Right. I hate him.
No. I hate him.
He's a good-looking piece of shit. You should be in prison.

Speaker 1 For disgusting. You should be in everything for saying that.
For everything. For murder.

Speaker 1 No way. We don't joke about that.
Why? Remember when he said that?

Speaker 1 I'm not not joking.

Speaker 1 We don't joke about that. Oh, yeah, yeah, that was very funny.

Speaker 1 In retrospect, that was a very funny joke that you said we're not joking about. Yeah, CD fucking neutralized it.
Yeah. So fast.
All right, well, so I'll think about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll talk to the community.

Speaker 3 And my last is just, please.

Speaker 1 Yeah, please. Please, please could maybe get you some.
You don't want to join the ACC? No. No.
I don't.

Speaker 1 That would be just so weird if it was bi-coastal.

Speaker 3 The Big Ten is so much cooler. We were talking, I can't imagine, like, okay, Cal doesn't have an enormous budget.
And could you imagine, like, our softball team or our golf team?

Speaker 3 Well, I guess golf travels a lot, but like, softball, our baseball team has to go play, like, Rutgers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Rutgers gets the Rutgers always get screwed in this conversation because they always get thrown in. It's hard, though.
They always like, Oregon going to Piscataway.

Speaker 1 And, like, Rutgers, like, what the fuck? What are we going to do?

Speaker 3 Like, we've been on a bus.

Speaker 1 Like, that's our budget.

Speaker 3 We have a bus budget.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's going to be interesting. So we, we got to.
You didn't graduate from Cal, though. So I can't really take anything you're saying seriously.
I was there for four years.

Speaker 1 You were there for four years.

Speaker 3 You didn't graduate? I have to do my thesis. Are you serious? Where? This is the most messed up.
I played for my country in college, and that's why I didn't get to go to my last thesis.

Speaker 1 Now, you might not

Speaker 1 be illegal

Speaker 1 to do it.

Speaker 1 Well, it might be illegal to do it, but what if we had Billy Football write your thesis for you? What's it on?

Speaker 3 It's like, it's basically sociology, interdisciplinary studies.

Speaker 1 Oh, sociology. Consumer behavior and globalization.

Speaker 1 Billy, do you know

Speaker 1 consumer behavior and globalization? Yeah, that's Billy. That's right up Billy's head.

Speaker 1 He's got that for you. Sociology is the major that would be like, I'm going to go pro.
That would be

Speaker 1 sociology and communication. Well, they gave me the heads up.

Speaker 3 I got in there and then I kind of like, you know, nudged the advisor. I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm only in here because of the golf thing.

Speaker 1 And he goes, oh, we know.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's very cool.

Speaker 3 He's like, take this class, this class, and this class.

Speaker 1 I want to ask you real quick before we're done. You went to a Taylor Swift concert? I did.

Speaker 3 And you fell asleep during the concert?

Speaker 1 No, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, you went with Lurch, too.

Speaker 3 Yeah, random, did not know he was going.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious. So I saw that in the picture.
That's so disrespectful to Taylor. I did not sleep.

Speaker 3 No, I did. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 How is this? The Swifties are going to be a little bit more distracted. I heard that you fell asleep.

Speaker 3 Who told you that? My wife's TikTok? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I was sitting.

Speaker 1 Okay. With your eyes closed, you're resting your eyes.

Speaker 1 I had to blink at somebody. How can you sit down for that show? It's just the airs of the world.

Speaker 3 You tried three hours. It was a grand.

Speaker 1 You play golf for four hours every day and you walk on a course.

Speaker 1 Max, I'm going to tell you this right now. Max, Max, I'm going to tell you this right now.
We can protect you from a lot of of things online.

Speaker 1 The Swifties are not.

Speaker 1 I'll join the Swifties.

Speaker 3 Again, that guy sucks.

Speaker 1 We got an argument.

Speaker 3 So our buddy Josh Isner, who's Dave's buddy,

Speaker 3 took us to the concert. Lurch showed up.
He works for Josh, so that was a fun reunion. So it's

Speaker 3 four guys, four of their wives.

Speaker 3 One of our friends, Connor, is 6'8 ⁇ , which is not good at a Taylor Swift concert. And everyone stands all the time.
And he was being so friendly.

Speaker 3 He's sitting as much as he can, but he wanted to watch at some point, so he stands up.

Speaker 3 So we decided to switch and make it guys guys and girls so that they could all hang out and swift out and we could just talk. And so I walk over there.
I hadn't seen him in like, it's a long show.

Speaker 3 I hadn't seen him like an hour and a half. I'm like, oh, how's the show going? We're standing.
And the girl behind me

Speaker 3 yells at me and goes, hey, it's not social hour.

Speaker 1 It's a concert. I can barely hear myself talk.

Speaker 3 And I looked at her and I laughed and she looked at me dead

Speaker 3 serious. And she goes, you don't know how much this means to me.

Speaker 3 And I was like, okay, sorry. So I stopped talking.
And then she starts yelling at him to sit down.

Speaker 3 And then finally, Connor had had enough after two and a half hours of being yelled at for being tall, being tall shamed. And he finally turned around and lost it.
He goes, you know what?

Speaker 1 Get better seats next time. I just do not know what to tell you.

Speaker 3 I'm very tall.

Speaker 1 It's not sociality. I didn't sleep.

Speaker 3 I sat down. I was exhausted.

Speaker 1 That was very important to her, though. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 Again, more important to her than all of us.

Speaker 1 For the record, you were not sleeping. Not sleeping.

Speaker 3 You're just

Speaker 1 like, what's you don't like Taylor Swift? It was your least

Speaker 1 favorite Taylor Swift song.

Speaker 3 My least favorite? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think they're all great. Okay.
I'm afraid of all of you. You don't care about her.

Speaker 3 It was awesome. Plus,

Speaker 3 I didn't get to see it because of my angle at the stage, but she gave Kobe Bryant's daughter the hat, and it was

Speaker 3 for me because it felt like then it was like full circle.

Speaker 3 I remember because my running joke for a very long time, and it will continue, is anytime a Clippers fan talks shit to me, I tell them that Taylor Swift has more banners at Staple Center than the Clippers do.

Speaker 1 That's like Michael Jordan's numbers retired at the heat. Damn, he is.
They retired his number. They're like, he's so good.
But wait, so that was smart of you.

Speaker 1 You just invoked Kobe to make us pack off swiftly. But you do

Speaker 1 neutralized. Genius.
Were you even wearing Kobe? Were you even wearing like a home-decorated Taylor Swift out there? Not home-decorated.

Speaker 3 Lurch's was. It was painted on him, but I had the bracelet.
I had the Taylor Swift shirt. I was full mode.
Yeah, okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 I got into it. All right.
We'll call off the dogs. Please, because they're frightening.
Yeah, no, they are.

Speaker 1 You don't want the smoke from Kelly Keaton. No, no.

Speaker 3 I've seen her videos no shot.

Speaker 1 No, she is very, very serious about Taylor Swift. I like that.

Speaker 3 Well, we're good. Taylor is the greatest.
She should be queen of the world.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, there you go.
Queen of the world.

Speaker 1 I like that. All right, well, Max, best of luck this weekend.
Thank you, guys. We're rooting for you very, very much.
And everyone, just, you know, lay off Max. Let him go to work.

Speaker 1 Say something after the round. Yeah, sure.

Speaker 3 I'll take anything that's just not the P-word.

Speaker 1 Whatever it is.

Speaker 1 The funniest, most original comment, Max will give you comment of the day. Yes, comment of the day.

Speaker 3 I'll pin it in my brain.

Speaker 1 Just remember, Max is always great for us because he gives us his time. He comes on whenever, if we text him, he's like, Yeah, come on.

Speaker 1 If he wins a big tournament, he'll come on drunk the next that night. So, with that, we have to do our part.
Yeah, so everyone's got to do their part.

Speaker 3 We want more drunk me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we want more drunk max. We want him to win.
We want him to be drinking out of stuff. We want all that.
We're sick of second-place Max.

Speaker 1 So, we want a winner. Well, it's more like eighth or nine.
Ten. Oh, no.
T10. So I'm going to talk about that.
Oh, that Max. This guy.

Speaker 3 He's got to be uncomfortable being this close to two trophies.

Speaker 1 Show him on the camera. Break on the camera.
Show him on the camera. Break it out into hot.

Speaker 1 He doesn't know what to do.

Speaker 3 That sweater was black when I walked in.

Speaker 1 What a loser.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's not content. All right.
Thanks, Max. Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1 Here is Vernon Davis.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is two-time Pro Bowler, one-time Super Bowl champ, Vernon Davis.
Also, the host of pretty much every show ever created.

Speaker 1 We want to talk football, but we have to start with the fact that you have seemingly hosted everything. How do you do it? How do you have enough time? We were going through it.

Speaker 1 It was like dancing with the stars. He was on.
Domino is Masters, American Cornhole League, Professional Horseshoes League.

Speaker 1 You're doing everything, Jeff, dude. Yeah.
Busy man. How are you doing this?

Speaker 4 Hey, man, y'all sound like my, you sound like my friends. You sound like my grandmother, my brother.
Everyone's asking. It's like, hey, how do you have time to do all this stuff?

Speaker 4 And I just tell them, look, it's about, I just try to maximize my time as much as I can. And

Speaker 4 anytime I get an opportunity that seems right, I go after it.

Speaker 1 Okay. You're an actor.
You're a musician.

Speaker 1 I don't know how you have enough time to do any of this. But maybe most impressive of all, from our perspective, you are an owner of a basketball team.

Speaker 1 You're a part owner of the Brisbane Bullets and the NBL down in Australia. We are the owners of the New Zealand Breakers of the NBL.
So we're kind of rivals right now.

Speaker 1 I need to look up and see what happened the last time we played against you guys. But owner to owner, let's start here.

Speaker 1 You played for Dan Snyder. He's gone.
Josh Harris is now in. How excited are you about a new owner in Washington, D.C.? Because I know you're from the area.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm extremely excited for this team, this new ownership group, because Josh Harris is a guy. He's all about the community.

Speaker 4 He's all about the people that makes the team what it is, even the employees and the rest of the group that's a part of the upper management.

Speaker 4 And I really feel like as a businessman or entity in general, anytime you integrate those core pieces to

Speaker 4 what it is that you're trying to do. And for them, they're trying to win a championship.

Speaker 4 I really think that they're going to make a difference within that organization.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. PFT is very, very excited.

Speaker 1 That's how we run the New Zealand Breakers as well. All about the community.
We've done great things down in Christchurch. Yes.
Yes. Huge.

Speaker 1 I got a question to start.

Speaker 1 It is about to be football season. You've been out of the league for a little bit now.
Do you find yourself this time of year being like, man, I kind of miss it?

Speaker 1 Like, I miss the, maybe not camps, you know, the actual like physical toll of camp, but the camaraderie, the grass, all that stuff.

Speaker 4 No, I don't. Not anymore.
Not anymore. I used to because I'm so busy with everything else.

Speaker 4 It's a bit of a distract. It's like a distraction for me when it comes to football.

Speaker 4 It's not a bad thing because I don't want to spend the rest of my life wishing that I was still in the football field. I had my time.
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 There's nothing greater than being able to walk out onto the football field on Sundays and play a game that you grew up playing and playing on teams that you grew up rooting for.

Speaker 4 So it's an amazing accomplishment. I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.
So with that being said, I just try to move on and just take the things as they come.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's good perspective. That's very good perspective because

Speaker 1 there's a lot of guys who leave the league and you can tell that there's like a hole missing there and they wish they were out there.

Speaker 1 And so it's good perspective that you've been able to have that happen and then pass.

Speaker 4 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And during your career, you played for some, you played on a nice little stretch of all-time football guys as your head coaches.
Yes.

Speaker 1 You had obviously Mike Nolan. People forget he wore a suit on the sidelines at one point to honor his father.
I think he's the last coach to do that. It was like him and Jack Del Rio.

Speaker 1 They kind of pushed the dress code

Speaker 1 one season. Then you played for Mike Singletary.
And I have a question about Mike Singletary for you.

Speaker 1 Delaney Walker, your former teammate,

Speaker 1 it was a big story at the time. You and Singletary didn't get along well.
You had your differences. You said what you said.

Speaker 1 But Delaney Walker shared a story that at one point your coach made a rap song about you after you guys got into a little argument.

Speaker 1 And then he came into a meeting the next day and he made everybody listen to a rap song about how Vernon Davis is all about himself and just wants the ball. Is that true?

Speaker 4 Well, it was a rap song about myself and and Michael Crabtree at the time. Michael Crabtree came in and he and I got into,

Speaker 4 I don't know, we had a debate. I wouldn't say an argument.

Speaker 4 We had a debate and Coach Singletary heard about it or either he saw it, I can't remember, but he stood up in the meeting and he made the song about Crabtree and I.

Speaker 1 Is it weird? I mean, the Mike Singletary clip, obviously a very famous clip.

Speaker 1 What happened afterwards in the locker room when he, you know, does the whole can't win with him, can't, unfortunately for you it was very quotable um but what what was the what was the conversation like after that went down i'd rather play with 10 guys than to play with someone that's all about themselves i won't win i told burnin

Speaker 1 can't do it can't win with him

Speaker 1 i can't coach him can't do it And so unfortunately for Mike Singletary, that was his defining moment as a coach.

Speaker 1 He obviously had a Hall of Fame playing career, but what afterwards, did you watch that and you're like, hey, what the fuck, Coach? Like, I'm trying out here.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm sitting back

Speaker 4 with

Speaker 4 my girlfriend, my kid's mom at the time. And I'm looking at it.
I'm like, wow,

Speaker 4 this is crazy. This is the most bizarre thing I've ever seen.
But as I had a chance to ponder on it, I realized that

Speaker 4 it was the right thing for me. I needed it at that time because.

Speaker 4 Coming into the National Football League, being able to have some success, once you figure the game out you develop you have this chip on your shoulder where you need a humbling moment and i think that was a humbling experience for me that i needed so i'm not gonna sit there and say that he was wrong because i can't because what he did didn't go against me it actually helped me yeah

Speaker 1 yeah what about when uh when he took his pants off in the locker room and said you guys are all playing like ass and then pointed at his butthole did that was that a definite did that help you did that light a fire inside you no it didn't it didn't but i get what he was trying what he was trying to do, what he was trying to,

Speaker 4 what he wanted to relate to the team. Honestly, we were losing, man.

Speaker 4 We were getting kicked. We were getting punched.
We just didn't have that winning team at the moment. But as time continued to go by, it got better and better.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then

Speaker 1 Harbaugh takes over, and you guys have some. immediate success with him.
Another all-time football guy. What was it like? We've talked to Coach Harbaugh a bunch on this show.

Speaker 1 We know him pretty well, but I'm always interested to hear stories from guys that played for him because it seems like it's just every day is a brand new story about, oh my God, I can't believe what Coach Harbaugh did today.

Speaker 1 So from your perspective, what was he like as a motivational guy, as a head coach?

Speaker 4 Harbaugh was very

Speaker 4 charismatic. He was.

Speaker 4 He had great energy. He was a great human being.
He was the kind of guy that's like,

Speaker 4 he's going to let you do what you want to do, but it has to be within the scope of the team. Like it has to be, you can't go outside the team.
Like, you know, you can't do anything foolish.

Speaker 4 You can't get into car accidents. You can't do, you can't steal.
You don't want to do all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 That's a good rule. Be a part of the team.
I'm on his side with the please don't get into car accidents rule. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, just, no, I'm just giving examples. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like,

Speaker 4 he'll let you, like, he'll give us, you know, throw us a bone here and there. Like, you know, some guys might want to have, I don't know, want to bring their family.

Speaker 4 Guys want to bring their families to practice on a Monday, Tuesday. They might want to have extra spaces for their family to park at the game day.

Speaker 4 Like, he will work with us, but only if we're winning games and doing the right thing. He was an amazing, amazing coach.
He knew exactly what he was doing.

Speaker 4 Like I said, great energy, great spirit about him. And guys just wanted to win.
Guys just wanted to win with him. And that's what we loved about Carbaugh.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then you went to Jim Tomsula, who is an all-time football guy, but maybe not the most successful head coach ever.
But we love him.

Speaker 1 He's a dog. Yeah,

Speaker 4 we love Jim Tom Sula. Jim Tom Sula was

Speaker 4 quite the guy. He was actually my neighbor for a few years.
I knew his family. His son and my son played on the same flag football team.

Speaker 4 So I had a chance to really get to know Jim Tom Sula and his family in San Francisco as well as in Washington. He was also with the commanders when I was there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So from those four guys, if we're going Mike Nolan, Singletary, Harbaugh, Tom Sula, that's a murderous row of just intensity, one right after the other that you played for.

Speaker 1 Out of those four guys, who was the most intense?

Speaker 4 Oh, most intense, I'm going to have to say Mike Singletary for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was intense, man. He was just, you just had to, you had to always make sure you

Speaker 4 were on top of your assignment and make sure you just

Speaker 4 you did the right thing around him. He wasn't, he was no joke.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
He has that stare that you could just see, and you're like, oh man,

Speaker 1 he's intense all the time. We interviewed him once and we started talking about football.
I thought he was going to cry just talking about football because he's that intense. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I concur.

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Speaker 1 I have a tweet I want to read to you, and I want you to walk me through it. This is from

Speaker 1 actually, it doesn't have a date. Oh, it's from 2013.

Speaker 1 It's from you, and it says,

Speaker 1 it should be a league rule saying that a defender cannot tackle a player by his penis. NFL, the most painful thing ever.
Hashtag NFL. You got tackled by your dick.

Speaker 4 Oh, man, that was painful that day. I remember that.
I remember that, like the back of my hand.

Speaker 1 That was tough.

Speaker 4 Man, that was tough.

Speaker 1 What happened when you, like, you got tackled by your penis? Did you say to the guy, like, hey, dude, don't tackle me by my penis. What the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 4 No, I was just trying to figure out what was going on. I mean,

Speaker 4 I knew the uniform was the uniform, but I didn't know

Speaker 4 your penis was the part of your uniform.

Speaker 1 What's going on?

Speaker 1 The clip is so funny because it's like, it couldn't be more apparent that he was like trying to tackle your big guy, hard to bring down.

Speaker 1 And he's like, well, I'll just grab for the penis and bring him down that way.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I should have worn some pants or put a sticker across my crotch saying, don't touch here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that should be a flag. I mean, there's a reason Brett Favre never got tackled by his dick, but you, on the other hand,

Speaker 1 may be bigger target there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 you've had some interesting times in your career. You go out to Denver and you win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 That was the year where Peyton Manning

Speaker 1 was injured and he had that famous picture of him in the cold tub wearing the football helmet, studying his iPad while you guys were out at practice because I guess he was limited then. But

Speaker 1 was there a big, I don't know if culture shock is the right word, but going,

Speaker 1 like starting to play with a legend like Peyton Manning and how intense that guy is and how much he prepares, Was there anything that you had to change about your game going out to Denver, playing with him?

Speaker 4 Peyton Manning was a special individual.

Speaker 4 He was different, man. He was who we perceive him to be.
He is

Speaker 4 very,

Speaker 4 very

Speaker 4 about football. He's an example of what a football player is supposed to be like, both.
physically and intellectually. Like he had it all, man.

Speaker 4 Just watching him be a leader in that locker room was quite an an experience.

Speaker 4 I thought of myself as a leader during most of my career, I would say.

Speaker 4 But the way he led was different. It was beautiful to watch.
And I definitely took some advice from him and learned a few things.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's obviously it speaks for itself.
His entire career is incredible. I mean,

Speaker 1 it was cool to see you because you were such a great player on the Niners.

Speaker 1 And it felt like, you know, we talked about some of the losing years to see you have that moment especially after the Super Bowl against the Ravens to have that moment where it's like it all comes together and it's like yeah he deserves he's a guy who feels like we're watching he deserves to win a Super Bowl ring yes absolutely

Speaker 1 that was probably a relief too like you get you get a Super Bowl ring you still have a lot of career in front of you and then you're like I can go play wherever and just make a bunch of money and I don't have to worry about chasing a ring or finally getting one because I've already gotten there.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I like to look at it. Of course, you want to win a Super Bowl with the team that you started out with, but you have to keep in perspective that even though

Speaker 4 you don't, you're, you, you, you didn't, even though you didn't win a game, a championship with the team that you were initially on,

Speaker 4 think about the hard work, the hours, the dedication. all the time you put in to being the best football player you could possibly be.

Speaker 4 All those, that blood, sweat, and tears that you put out, that's what you did it for. You did it for the moment to come.
And that moment to come comes in any way.

Speaker 4 It doesn't, like Coach used to always say, he's always say, it doesn't matter how you win, as long as you win.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, it could be a field goal. Maybe, maybe we, we kick a field goal and we win a game that way, or maybe we don't put up any points.
It's all field goal points, but it's okay. We won the game.

Speaker 4 We move on to the next one and we get even better.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's a good message for everyone listening.

Speaker 1 A question I'd like to ask guys who played like you did. What is the thing that fans get wrong the most when it comes to the professional game?

Speaker 1 What is the thing that you hear fans say, and they're just like, you're just wrong. You don't understand how the game works or the preparation works or what goes into this?

Speaker 4 Well, a lot of times you hear fans talk about play calling. Why didn't coach call this play? Why didn't coach call that play? But they don't understand.
Like it's all situational.

Speaker 4 Like it depends on what they're lining up in like we might come out i might we might come out and the team we plan we might plan for a cover two team right

Speaker 4 but the team might come out in a different coverage you know it might be cover two man

Speaker 4 you know it's a difference between regular cover two cover two man where they might have one one week they might have um

Speaker 4 somebody else over the tight end and then they put uh they might have a free safety or or or linebacker coming the tight end then you plan they got a corner on you a nickel or they just switch it up they take the corner a corner and put them a nickel you just never know you have to be prepared for anything so certain plays that we plan for we can't really run in practice and then the fans or someone on the outside might be looking at a play totally different than the offensive coordinators looking at looking at it yeah yeah i mean we do that they're looking at what's best for the team yeah sometimes it's not about how good a player is right we might have calvin johnson over here Some people might say, Why didn't they just throw to Calvin Johnson?

Speaker 4 He's lined up on Asante Samuels, right? Over to the right, but yeah, maybe.

Speaker 4 But the way the coach is seeing is that this is the better play for us in this situation. We could take a chance right here to Calvin Johnson.

Speaker 4 Yeah, sure, but this might be the best situation right here. Yeah, this might be the best

Speaker 4 mismatch. Maybe Calvin Johnson has caught like three passes out of three passes out of seven attempts.
Maybe it's not going his way. So coach might want to look on this side.
It depends.

Speaker 4 It goes that way. And yeah, I said Calvin Johnson catching three passes out of seven because look, Calvin Johnson is not perfect.
Yeah, he's the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 He's a great player, but even great players have bad days. Even great players, sometimes it might not go the way they planned.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But nine times out of 10, they're going to come through.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's a good point because I know we sit on the couch all the time and we're like, why didn't you pass there? Why didn't you run there? And I know I'm wrong, but it feels good.

Speaker 1 It feels good to criticize coaches. It's really good to just say, they need to dial something up here.
Yeah. Like, just, you can always dial something up.

Speaker 4 Dial it up.

Speaker 1 Heat up the quarterback. That's all you got to do on defense.
Take a shot. Take the top off the defense.
I like saying that, too. It's really easy.
It's not a hard game.

Speaker 1 Make them respect the deep ball. Then the underneath opens up.

Speaker 1 See, all these things, they're like things that we kind of like halfway hear from commentators when we're watching the football games, and they seep into like part of our brain, and we just regurgitate it back out like it's our own thoughts.

Speaker 1 You think we're smart. I know you think we're smart.
You got to establish the run.

Speaker 4 Part of my take, but I think, part of my take, but you guys are smart.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 What was the conversation with your brother when he retired at halftime? He's right there.

Speaker 1 Well, Vante, come and tell us.

Speaker 4 Nothing, Vonte. Nothing, nothing, nothing.

Speaker 1 Did you talk? Did you talk to him on the phone?

Speaker 4 He actually just walked. He just actually just went to go see my grandmother.
He just walked out the door.

Speaker 1 Halfway through this interview. Yeah.
Yeah. He gave up on the interview.

Speaker 1 Y'all so funny, but what do you say?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, we had a chance to chat about it.

Speaker 4 Vante has always been the type of kid to do what he feels he wants to do. He's been like that since he was a kid.
Whatever he wanted to do, he always felt like he had the freedom and liberty to do it.

Speaker 4 And look,

Speaker 4 who am I to judge? Of course, as an older brother, you wonder why you try to figure it out. And you say, hey, why I didn't teach him that.
I didn't,

Speaker 4 we didn't talk about this right here.

Speaker 4 But then you got to go back and ask yourself a question like,

Speaker 4 I don't know what's going on mentally with this kid. I don't know what's going on with my brother.

Speaker 4 Maybe there's something in his head that I can't see that I can't feel. No one knows about.
You don't know. So I can't judge him.
I can't say that what he did was right or if it was wrong.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't know if I would have.

Speaker 4 If I was in that situation, I don't know if I would have done the same thing. Maybe I would have.
I don't know. Depends on where you are mentally.
Because some people

Speaker 4 we're all different in our in our mind

Speaker 4 and we we're so caught up on what how things are supposed to work or how the world sees things or how things supposed to be oh if i'm a if i'm if i'm a tough guy i don't give up i don't quit but that's not always the case we have to take it we gotta have to take into account that life is sometimes tough life and it's okay life is sometimes stressful Sometimes life can be too hard and

Speaker 4 you have to walk away from something, something that you love.

Speaker 4 And in the moment, there's no right or wrong way to that person. So I had to really process all that and think about it.
I said, okay, I get it.

Speaker 4 This is a very compassionate moment. And I have to be there for my brother.
And I have to have an understanding because that could have happened to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, I might have asked the question wrong. We judged and we thought

Speaker 1 the moment ruled. That's fine.
No, we thought it ruled. We thought it was awesome.
It was awesome. We thought it was.

Speaker 1 Who hasn't been in a spot where like, you know what? I'm done. I'm done.
He knew. I loved it.
He knew he was done. He walked away.
He was like, I'm not going to go out there and pretend. I quit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We loved it. In the moment, we were like, this is awesome.

Speaker 4 If I did it, if I did it, you guys could talk about me. You can say whatever you want.
That's fine. Everyone has a right to an opinion.

Speaker 4 Everyone has their take, their perspective, and the way they see things. This is okay.
And you should. I mean, like.

Speaker 4 Everyone has to say something about whatever it is that just happened to someone.

Speaker 4 You know, it's just the way life is. It's okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But we had his back for the record.
Like we thought, we thought it was very cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was admirable in my mind. Yeah.
I love quitting things. Yeah.
It's like my favorite. Yeah.
When you're done, you're done. Why, why keep going? When you're done, you're done.

Speaker 4 Now you can make fun of it. You can make fun of it.
He can make fun of it for the rest of his life.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He can become a comedian and talk about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true. Spin into something positive.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 So you hosted the challenge after show.

Speaker 1 I assume you're a challenge fan, and I wanted to ask you who your goat challenge competitor is oh man that's a good question um thank you thank you i really like fessy um

Speaker 4 we became really good friends i i wouldn't i know a lot of people probably wouldn't say he's the goat yeah there's only one answer

Speaker 4 but i think he with his background in sports i thought he did a wonderful job i think he did a great job just

Speaker 4 Just, I don't know, doing what, whatever it is that they do out there.

Speaker 4 It's crazy, crazy man i can't imagine myself going out there and doing that yeah i cannot imagine so i take my hat off to all those guys just for everything that they're able to do um

Speaker 4 from

Speaker 4 just the

Speaker 4 just being a just a total athlete because that stuff is hard it's not easy out there you have to be athletic to do a lot of the stuff that they're doing yeah i mean the answer is johnny bananas that is the goat it it pains me because i'm not a johnny bananas guy but he is the goat

Speaker 1 He's the goat.

Speaker 1 You know he is. The mental, the physical, he's the goat.

Speaker 1 You had a little period where C.T.

Speaker 1 You know, got his cardio back, and he was focusing on that. West did steroids.
That was a good idea.

Speaker 4 Why would you say CT?

Speaker 4 Because CT. Why would you say Johnny Bananas over CT?

Speaker 1 Because as much as I love CT, he doesn't have the longevity that Johnny Bananas does. And he didn't have the mental game.
CT was a guy who lived with his heart on the sleeve.

Speaker 1 If something pissed him off, he let it know. He bashed Adam's skull in that one season, episode one.
He ate his brains. It's mental.
You know, it's mental. It's Johnny Bananas.

Speaker 1 The answer is Johnny Bananas.

Speaker 4 Everyone always goes for Johnny Bananas or C.T.

Speaker 1 It's Johnny Bananas. Unfortunately, it's Johnny Bananas.
He is the guy. I think you have to be impartial as the host.
You can't. You want to say it's Johnny Bananas, but you can't.
But you know it is.

Speaker 4 Look, like I said, I really like Fessy.

Speaker 4 I like his potential. I like his athletic background.
And I think

Speaker 4 if he's one of those guys to stay around as long as C.T. and Johnny Bonanza has been around, I think he could become one of those guys that we can talk about and really be in the rankings.

Speaker 4 But I still like him.

Speaker 4 I think he did a wonderful job.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You were famous for your incredible athleticism going back to high school. You set some records in track and field.
Going into the NFL draft, your combine stats were just unreal.

Speaker 1 Go back and look at what he ran in the 40-yard dash, how big he was, how strong he was.

Speaker 1 But then you get to DC and you get to work with the strength and conditioning GOAT, Deuce Gruden, who I'm sure just took your body to the next level. Chiseled it.
Just chiseled it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tell us about Deuce Gruden because we are a big pro-Deuce Gruden podcast. We think he's an absolute beast.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Deuce is one of those guys where you say, don't let the size fool you.

Speaker 4 Right? Because he's like, what? Deuce is like probably like 5'2 ⁇ .

Speaker 4 yeah on a good day but uh he was really he was very inspiring he was it was cool to be able to work with him and have him be a part of the strength and conditioning team um his knowledge his experience and his energy good vibes great vibes so being able to be around that was was pretty pretty phenomenal yeah i would imagine

Speaker 1 have you when's the last time you lifted because your your peak uh i'm reading these numbers uh 460 bench press uh

Speaker 1 what was it eight 685 squat what if you just got on the bar right now what do you think you could still put up 135 pounds that's it come on

Speaker 4 come on my shoulder my shoulder look my body's good never had surgery but

Speaker 4 i got

Speaker 4 you know shoulders popped out here and there and but

Speaker 4 I just try to stay away from that bench press.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
That's, I mean, I feel like that's a mark of like every ex

Speaker 1 great athlete. They're like, yeah, look at my numbers.
And then you ask them, they're like, I just use resistant bands.

Speaker 1 And it's like, well, I can't say anything because I know you squatted 685 when you were like 18 years old.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm just lifting it. Look good.
I got to look good. I'm just lifting it look good.
That's all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're an actor now. You had to have the popcorn muscles for the screen, right? So you co-starred in a movie with Morgan Freeman.
how was that i imagine that that was intimidating work with him

Speaker 4 it was pretty pretty amazing working with morgan freeman i i just like taking his energy and just taking in how his work process it was it was phenomenal watching him have a debate with the director for 15 minutes after we were done with rehearsal it was that was pretty cool to see just the best voice ever too yes i imagine anything that he says sounds good yes by far by far morgan freeman

Speaker 1 uh tough question. Let's take Patrick Mahomes out of this.
What quarterback right now would you have liked to play with? Alex Smith.

Speaker 1 No, right now. Is Alex Smith? Is he still playing?

Speaker 4 I'm messing with the other playing.

Speaker 1 He could still be playing. I don't know.

Speaker 4 I'd love to play with Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Why? Just because of how good he is? Or what, like, anything? Because he can do it all.

Speaker 4 When you have a quarterback. Yeah, I just like playing.
When you have a quarterback that can run, pass, and run, I mean, that's a dual threat.

Speaker 4 The chances of them winning a championship

Speaker 4 very high. At some point, I think Lamar Jackson is going to win the championship if he can still won between now and the next three years.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, give us your official prediction for this season: who's winning the Super Bowl.
And then, secondary, a team that's going to surprise somebody.

Speaker 4 The team that's going to win the Super Bowl this year will probably be the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 I think the Washington Commander secondary is going to surprise everyone.

Speaker 1 Good. I like that.
I like that a lot. Do you root for the Commanders now?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I do because I'm here in Washington, D.C. and I played for them for four years.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Vernon, I have one last question.
It's actually a guest question. So I saw that you're an avid curling fan.

Speaker 4 I was an honorary captain for three Olympic Games.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I have the only curling fan I know, our guy, All Business Pete, who does our tech stuff.

Speaker 1 Pete, do you have a curling question for Vernon Davis? Because I've never met a curling fan. You're the second curling fan I've ever met.
So I don't even know what to ask you about curling.

Speaker 1 How much time we got? Go ahead. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's the robot question. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite sport and why is it curling?

Speaker 4 A lot of people say, I don't think my favorite sport is curling. I'm not going to say it's my favorite sport.
My favorite sport is basketball.

Speaker 1 I love basketball, but I'm familiar with it.

Speaker 4 I tried the sport when I was in San Francisco and... I went out on the ice.
And to me, it felt like shuffleboard. It felt like I was, it was equivalent to being,

Speaker 1 I don't know,

Speaker 4 yeah, being in front of a shuffle board or

Speaker 4 just,

Speaker 1 it was very strategic,

Speaker 4 very strategic game. And after I figured it out, I was like, wow, this is a, this is pretty, pretty cool game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Were you good? Were you good when you were the honorary captain? Because Pete here tried once and he failed miserably.
So hard. It's hard.

Speaker 1 Is it, is it translate being a curling fan to actually being good at curling?

Speaker 4 Well, I think, I think that if you, you can, he can, yeah, you can get good at, you can get good at

Speaker 1 curling. You can get good at anything.

Speaker 4 I've been

Speaker 4 really put the time in to perfect the craft. And the craft is just, it's real, it's,

Speaker 4 it's interesting the way they,

Speaker 4 they

Speaker 4 spin the stone slightly,

Speaker 4 and they're sweeping to get more distance.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 sweet science is really what it is. It's interesting game.
It's sweet science. Yeah.
All right. Well, that was, I mean, I had to have Pete.

Speaker 1 He literally is the only person I've ever met who likes curling. And I saw that you were an honorary captain and you like curling.
So you're the only two people I know in the world that like curling.

Speaker 1 It is the most boring sport ever created.

Speaker 4 That's because you don't understand it and doesn't get it.

Speaker 1 He doesn't get it. You don't understand.
He doesn't stand in the brain. He can't figure it out.

Speaker 1 You spin the rock onto

Speaker 1 a target. It's shuffleboard.
It's easiest game to understand.

Speaker 1 I like watching curling once every four years when it comes on at like, I don't know, 7 a.m. when the Olympics are in a weird time zone and it's the first thing they put on.

Speaker 1 It's a relaxing way to start your day, but I don't think.

Speaker 1 Can you make a drinking game out of it? If you can make a drinking game out of it, then I'll watch it. Yeah.
It's called Shuffleboard at a Bar. I'm cool.

Speaker 4 Those guys are drunk when they're on the ice.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 You should lead with that, Pete. Here's why you should like curling.
Yeah. I'm trying to keep it exclusive.
Yeah, all right. Yeah, Pete.
Well, you couldn't. It's not going to be.

Speaker 1 You couldn't blow it up if you tried.

Speaker 1 They're coming to New Jersey. U.S.
Nationals.

Speaker 1 All right, that's enough curling talking about the American Dream in New Jersey. No one cares.
Everybody's invited.

Speaker 1 Everyone? Everyone. Everyone.
Everyone's invited. Everyone's invited.
Putin.

Speaker 1 Well.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
So not everyone. Not everyone.
Not every sport. Not everyone.
He's busy. It's fine.
Not everyone. Wait, Vernon, your favorite sport is basketball.
Who's your favorite player?

Speaker 1 Who's your coach?

Speaker 4 Oh, my favorite player of all time. Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 All right, good. Good answer.
And who's your favorite player right now?

Speaker 4 Well, I want to.

Speaker 4 I can't go back. I'm going to stick with this guy, even though he's getting old.
I'm going to have to say LeBron James.

Speaker 1 No, come on. Come on.
Don't you think it's weird that he's played 20 years without a major injury?

Speaker 4 Well, look, I played 14 years with no surgery.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's kind of weird, too. Yeah, very

Speaker 1 interesting.

Speaker 4 Yeah, take care of yourself, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how much do you take care of yourself? How much does it cost a month to take care of yourself?

Speaker 4 Oh, you spend, well, I would go to the couch, so I would go, I would get a massage, massage

Speaker 4 three times a week. That's about $150 per massage.

Speaker 4 Chiropractor, twice a week. That's about $75.

Speaker 4 Then I have,

Speaker 4 what else? And I'm getting stretched. So those are my main two, those are the main two things that I would do to take care of myself, massages and chiropractor.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I always love those stories that come out once every couple of years about a player that like just lies and say that they spend like $70,000 a month on their body to stay in shape.

Speaker 4 I think about $2,400, about $2,400 a week.

Speaker 1 We'll do it. Okay.

Speaker 1 That seems a good ROI if you're getting million-dollar contracts. Yeah, that's good.
Yeah. I think you made a sound investment.
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 4 No, I wouldn't go any more. I wouldn't go any more than that.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
How depressed would you be if you woke up one day and your body just looked like mine? And you look down and you're like, what?

Speaker 1 What the hell?

Speaker 4 I wouldn't have anything to live for.

Speaker 1 Did you say I should KMS? Yeah, I think so. I will not KMS.
Vernon, this has been awesome, man. Appreciate you coming on.
Anytime you want to come on and talk ball, we're open to having you back.

Speaker 1 So thanks so much, man. Come to Chicago sometime.
Stop by the studio.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Okay, absolutely.
Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Mount Rushmore time. Mount Rushmore of Best broadcaster calls.

Speaker 1 Jake, do you feel the pressure?

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 Do you think Shot of a Lifetime will be picked?

Speaker 1 I mean, it was either going to be picked by you guys or talked about during. Well, no, we were not going to pick it.
It was definitely not a picture.

Speaker 1 Now on this podcast, it's all like what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 Honorable mention. You guys are going to bring it up.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Can you give us the scores? Well, now that the paintball video has been dropped, it's going to be 26 for Big Cat and PFT, 24 for Hacks.

Speaker 1 Hacks. Hank and Hacks.

Speaker 1 Hank and Max and 23 for us. So three points separating everyone.
Many seven left. Anyone's game.
This is anyone's game. All right.
What is the order today? It'll be me and Billy.

Speaker 1 It'll be Hank and Max. It'll be Big Cat and PFT.
There's so much pressure on you for this one, Jake, though. Yeah, but...
Like, you're expected to win. Right.
Hank was expected to win Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 Hank and Max. That's very true.
He was. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you guys just read a BuzzFeed article. Also, watch the paintball video.
Yes, watch the paintball video.

Speaker 1 Speaking of people that should have won, the fact that Billy's team was the only one that didn't win was. I mean, you had me.
I was scared. Spoiler.
I mean, I was just cheated the whole time.

Speaker 1 Billy's an army of one.

Speaker 1 I actually can't wait to see the footage to see how much Billy really cheated. Did you watch it? I am looking over the last cut right after we're done.

Speaker 1 Was it clear with Billy just kept on getting shot and not doing anything?

Speaker 1 Mimi is nodding his head. He's nodding his head.
Good. I'm happy because that was maybe the most frustrating thing of all time is shooting Billy and then him being like, it didn't hit me, bro.

Speaker 1 It's like, dude, there's paint right there. Well, he said it was the

Speaker 1 adrenaline. Yeah, he didn't hit him.
It's very difficult to play paintball

Speaker 1 to someone like that. Billy's too tough for paintball.
He doesn't feel the bullets hit him. And then he pulled off his shirt and he had like 10 welts on his back.
Do we get that footage, too?

Speaker 1 Yeah, after the fact,

Speaker 1 good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yes. Big pick.
1-1. Yes.
What are you doing? I'm excited. There's no pressure on this pick.
It's the greatest call in the history of sports. Do you believe in miracles?

Speaker 1 We did not fumble it. Good pick.
Good pick. It's really.
Oh, we're going to play all the picks, too, which would be great. Also, I feel like I learned this semi-recently, not the championship.

Speaker 1 Wait, Jake, you didn't know that?

Speaker 1 No, no, I knew it. Have you ever seen Miracle? The entire half.

Speaker 1 But I saw it in like elementary school. That's the whole point.
You haven't watched Miracle since elementary school? Whenever a team wins, such a rewatchable movie. I didn't get that.

Speaker 1 Could you try again? Oh, soon. When it came out, you fucking minks.
I saw it in theaters like one other time. We're keeping that.

Speaker 1 Hell yes, Siri. Jake, you know, the whole origin of the People Forget That segment was just repeating that People Forget that that wasn't the championship game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I obviously fell for it.

Speaker 1 Do you believe in miracles? Yes!

Speaker 1 Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a great pick. Do we want just like I think it should say because we only have so much room for it should say do you believe in miracles? And then the

Speaker 1 USA versus hockey and like placid. placid.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, good pick. Great pick.
Thanks.

Speaker 1 We're going to go with down goes Frazier. Oh, okay.
That's what we figured was going to be two. Yep.

Speaker 1 And what was the official

Speaker 1 Frazier versus Foreman? Foreman, yeah. I can't say that I was.

Speaker 1 Our Lee's trainer right next to me is saying it. You may hear him.

Speaker 8 Down goes Frazier. Down goes Frazier.
Down goes Frazier. The heavyweight champion is taking the mandatory eight down and far.

Speaker 1 Good pick. What should we do, PFT?

Speaker 1 We thought those were going to go one, two. We did.
I think that the third one on our list is iconic.

Speaker 1 All right, it's third or eight.

Speaker 1 Three. Okay, we're going to go

Speaker 1 our first, but you say our first pick. The band is on the field.
Band is on the field. It's at a game so famous they call it the game.
Yep. Cal Stanford.
The band was on the field.

Speaker 1 It was literally on the field. The band was literally on the field.
The band ran on the field. I still don't know how they didn't stop that play.
It's insane. Oh, and it's just called the play.

Speaker 1 The play. It's pretty sick.

Speaker 9 Carmen will probably try to swim it, and he does. Ball comes loose, and the Bears have to get out of bounds.

Speaker 9 Rogers along the sideline, another one. They're still in deep trouble at midfield.

Speaker 1 They tried to do it. Rugby, baby.
The ball is still loose as they get it to Rogers. They give it back now to the 30.
They're down to the 20. Oh, the band is out on the field.

Speaker 1 He's going to go into the one show.

Speaker 1 And then he runs over the trombone. Can you imagine if this happened today on the social media?

Speaker 1 It would have been

Speaker 1 insane. Amazing, sensational, dramatic.
Oh, heart-running. Great call.
For all the haters that think that rugby laterals can't work in football,

Speaker 1 bear witness to that play. Should we go five? Yeah, let's do five.
All right, memes, you'll love this pick.

Speaker 1 Can you just type it in? Yep. Yep.
I know it.

Speaker 1 Cassiano's home run.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 It's so good. It's so good.
It was on our list, but I couldn't take it 1-1. That would just be a slap in the face of the whole industry.
To the whole industry. It would have been.
It would have.

Speaker 1 But I had it on the list.

Speaker 1 It is such a hilarious, funny call, iconic call. Became a meme.
That's probably going to win you guys the draft just because of the social media.

Speaker 6 And I mean, I just made a comment earlier tonight that I guess

Speaker 6 went out over the air that I am deeply ashamed of.

Speaker 6 If I have hurt anyone out there,

Speaker 6 I can't tell you how much I say from the bottom of my heart, I'm so very, very sorry.

Speaker 6 I pride myself and think of myself as

Speaker 6 a man of faith.

Speaker 6 As there's a drive in a deep lift.

Speaker 1 I think the fact that it was during COVID too and there was no

Speaker 1 crowd noise.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'm going to be putting on this.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's going to be for red.

Speaker 1 It could have been better.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. I'll apologize for the design my pick.
Protocol.

Speaker 1 For the red. That's like one of those things that, like, I can't wait till my kids are older.
I'm going to be like, hey, let me show you this video.

Speaker 1 Like, and let me set the stage for you. It's so good.
Oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. You guys have your next pick? Yes.

Speaker 1 This is a favorite one of my lifetime that isn't necessarily my team. Uh-oh.
But Auburn's going to win the football game. Okay.
Okay. The kick six.
kick-six kick-six

Speaker 1 good one

Speaker 1 good one. This is all gonna be good.
This is all

Speaker 1 I just really like listening to these two. Yeah, it makes me think.
So, this is think about sports.

Speaker 1 This is their home radio call. Yeah,

Speaker 1 Rod Bramblett, who unfortunately passed away.

Speaker 1 Ah, come on.

Speaker 1 What a bummer. I'm just trying to give context.
Yeah, I don't need context. The guy died.
Okay, I'm just the voice of the tigers.

Speaker 1 That's just an extra death I don't want to think about.

Speaker 10 Well, I guess if this thing comes up short, he can field it and run it out.

Speaker 8 All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 All right, here we go.

Speaker 10 56-yarder.

Speaker 10 It's got no, does not have the leg. And Chris Davis takes it in the back of the end zone.

Speaker 8 He'll run it out to the 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 45.

Speaker 1 There goes Davis. Oh, my God.
Davis is going to be

Speaker 1 back. Auburn's going to win the football game.
Auburn's going to win the football game. He ran the misfield go back.
He ran it back at 109 yards. They're not going to keep him off the field tonight.

Speaker 1 That's a great part, too, right? They're not going to keep him off the field. Also, I like the analysts going.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 After a big enough win in the SEC, everybody, Stingray Steve comes out a little bit. Yep.
Yep. That was a great call.
All right. Here we go.
All right. Good pick.
Good picks all around, guys.

Speaker 1 So far, so good. Good picks all around.
I don't have anything to say bad about like people would be like, what's wrong with you guys? You just did a Mount Rush war with no bickering.

Speaker 1 We had what was the heavy machinery. Yeah, well, that's because we just don't know shit.
We're like, oh, yeah, I guess that's a good pick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. This next one.

Speaker 1 Bill Buckner. Behind the bag.
Vince Coley.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 during Fever Pitch, Jimmy Fallon. I think he has nightmares from this.
There's a scene.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 This one doesn't hit my brain immediately like some of the other ones, but let's listen. I'm familiar, but it's

Speaker 1 maybe a reach. We'll see.
We'll have to vote. We'll see.
We'll see.

Speaker 1 Oh, if you can't find it, then this is the worst pick of all time. It's the error.
I think you pass it. Pill Buckner between the legs.
Yeah, it's Scully calls Mookie Wilson's epic at bat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Little roller up along first. Behind the band.
It gets through But

Speaker 1 it comes Noy into Mitsund

Speaker 1 now

Speaker 1 It's a great call because it's Vince Scully

Speaker 1 I don't know I might that might have been the first reach of the draft. Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean maybe for our fan base it might not be the best pick. So okay

Speaker 1 it's an it's an iconic play. Okay.
I think it's a great call.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next pick.
We'll see.

Speaker 1 Our next pick is going to be.

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 1 You know how Snake works? Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 I got fucked up. I got fucked up.

Speaker 1 We will see you tomorrow night. Okay.
Good pick. So

Speaker 1 which one? Well, there's two. Jack and Joe.
Jack Buck said it. And then when Joe said it, which one are you picking?

Speaker 1 There's a right answer. There is.
It's Jack Buck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would have gone Joe. I would have gone Joe Buck.
Because his was a callback to his dad. Because Joe has all the sentiment in it.
Unfortunately, Jack Buck passed away. What? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fucking eh? Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Kirby Puckett's.
He's taking the original.

Speaker 1 NWD Blanche Center for Metro.

Speaker 1 And we'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 It's great. The plexiglass at

Speaker 1 the old Twins place. Oh, the best.
No idea why it was there. Oh, the best.
I was rooting so hard for the Braves at this point. But Kirby Puckett was awesome.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Did some things later on in life, I think. Yeah, we don't need to get into that.
But just like how

Speaker 1 he was a true short king. Yep.
He was a Haas, too, a Haas of a short king. And a great name.
Okay.

Speaker 1 People forget that the Twins have pinstripes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're going for a more general one here, but we do have a specific.

Speaker 1 If you want, we're just going to go with Bang.

Speaker 1 Oh, you can't do that. You have to pick a bang.
Okay. Pick a bang.
Okay. Give us your best bang, Max.

Speaker 1 The Curry from three. Bang.
After

Speaker 1 you'll know the one I'm

Speaker 1 okay. The regular season game against the Thunder.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. We, PFT, we dominate this draft.
I think we got two great ones coming up. So many good ones.

Speaker 1 Westbrook on the drive, falling away. Won't go.
Rebound taken by Ingadala.

Speaker 1 They do have a timeout. Decide not to use it.
Curry. Way down to.
Bang. Bang.
Oh, what a shot from. It's a double bang.
That was a double bang. Yeah, you got two bangs out of that one.

Speaker 1 I mean, I do like it. It is the best

Speaker 1 play-by-play guy call, and

Speaker 1 that is the best one that he has. The rare double bang, when it happens, you get goosebumps.
Yeah. All right, PFT.
So I think to me, this is pretty easy, Big Cat.

Speaker 1 We'll go number eight, and then we'll go number six. Yep.

Speaker 1 You go eight first, same exact wavelength. That was exactly what I was thinking.
We just dominated. I can't believe that this baseball call is still on the board.

Speaker 1 I don't believe what I just saw. Kirk Gibson.
Kirk Gibson home run. Yep, that's what I was going back and forth.
And then I was thinking,

Speaker 1 that's the

Speaker 1 Scully. And then the underrated part about this call, he doesn't talk after he says that.
He lets the moment exist. Yes.
It's like jazz. It's the words that he didn't say.

Speaker 1 Swings and a fly ball to deep right field. It's going to be a home run.
Unbelievable. A home run for Gibson.
And the Dodgers have won the game five to four. Tommy's so good.

Speaker 1 I don't believe what I just saw. No, that's Vin.
That's not Vin. I don't believe that.
That's what I just saw.

Speaker 1 That's just, I think of all Dodgers' moments. I'm like, oh, it must have been Vin Scully.
I mean, it's an iconic, iconic moment. I don't believe what I just saw.
Buck Ripley. That's so great.
What?

Speaker 1 What's his name? Buck Ripley. Oh, even better.
Buck. Buck Ripley.
I mean, I don't believe what I just saw. That's goosebumps.
Wait, why? The article I'm reading is crediting Vin Scully.

Speaker 1 No, it's saying credit Vin Scully

Speaker 1 for Jack Buck's historic call.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 1 Play the.

Speaker 1 It's not Vin Scully. Gibson swings and a fly ball to deep right field.
This is going to be a home run. Unbelievable.
So it's Kirk Gibson Vin Scully. Oh, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 It's uh, it's Buck.

Speaker 1 It's Jack Buck. Jack Buck.
Yeah, it's Jack Buck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That makes sense. Mm-hmm.
That was a very dumb moment of ours. Did you say his name was Buck Gibson? Buck Ripley.

Speaker 1 So here's what happens, right? When I typed into Google, who said I don't believe what I just saw, in big letters, the big headline that comes up is it looks like it says Buck aped Ripley.

Speaker 1 Yeah, all right. And so it's saying that Jack Buck aped a guy named Ripley, like copied a guy named Ripley.
All right, so, so

Speaker 1 there's a whole story about how people think it was Vin Scully because it was a Dodgers, which we just did. Yeah.
Buck was calling the game for the national radio broadcast.

Speaker 1 He said, I don't believe what I just saw. Scully was calling the game for the local TV broadcast.
He had equally historic call. In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened.
Wow.

Speaker 1 So both incredible calls. But I don't believe what I just saw is the iconic one.
All right. Last one.
I can't believe this thing gets picked. I cannot believe this thing gets picked.

Speaker 1 Maybe the greatest call of all time, it is Jim Ross, mankind.

Speaker 1 He's broken in half. I cannot believe this thing gets picked.

Speaker 1 I'm not an old school wrestler.

Speaker 1 You guys are the only one. But this is a meme format.
No, no, but you're meme format as well. Memes.
People absolutely use memes. Okay.
Here's the thing, too. That killed him.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 man!

Speaker 1 My God Albert!

Speaker 1 Oh my God. As God is my witness! He is broken in half!

Speaker 1 As God is my witness, he is broken in half. Good God, oh my God.
That is memes. Back us up.
That is absolutely a meme.

Speaker 1 It's a good pick, memes said.

Speaker 1 I mean, do you like to call? Yeah, I just don't know it. So I'm not going to pick something.
Like, actually, that's not true.

Speaker 1 You've heard it. yeah you've definitely heard it in a meme format but it's a match for the parentheses hell in the cell undertaker versus mankind

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 i'm gonna go back to a more historical iconic one that doesn't necessarily mean a lot to me but is under the iconic well no this means a lot to you what giants win if you you're i'm not gonna say because there's still one more pick but i refuse to take one there was one that i refused to take all right that's your team what i was gonna say giants win the pennant oh i thought you were gonna say the other thing i know i know know what you think I was going to say.

Speaker 1 I said Giants win the Pennant. Okay.

Speaker 1 Good pick.

Speaker 1 A historic. You don't need to know what that is, but you say Giants win the Pennant, and people know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 Shot heard around the world.

Speaker 1 1951? Yeah, 1951. Not taking any chances.

Speaker 9 Loxon without too big of a lead in second, but he'll be running like the window. Thompson hits one.

Speaker 1 Blacker through. There's a ball fight.
I killed me, I believe. The Giants win the Pennant! The Giants win the Pennant! The Giants won't.

Speaker 1 The Giants

Speaker 1 There's something about that old-timey, like

Speaker 1 it sounds like chaps doing an FDR outside. It sounds awesome.
It's awesome. Good pick.
I like the pick. Classic.
Last pick. 1951.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 when we were going to do this one earlier this week, so memes gave a recommendation that I can't ignore. I want to add some comedy to this.

Speaker 1 So Kevin Harlan announcing a streaker. Oh.
The man is drunk.

Speaker 1 And there he goes.

Speaker 11 Let's go with the secondary. Hey, somebody has run out on the field.
Some gooseball in a hat and a red shirt. Now he takes off the shirt.
He's running down the middle by the 50. He's at the 30.

Speaker 11 He's bare-chested and banging his chest. Now he runs the opposite way.
He runs at the 50. He runs at the 40.
The guy is drunk.

Speaker 1 But there he goes.

Speaker 11 The 20. They're chasing him.
They're not going to get him. Waving his arms.
Bare-chested. Somebody stopped back.
Yeah, here comes the blue coat. Oh, they got him.
They're coming from the nuts.

Speaker 11 Oh, and they tackle him at the 40-yard line.

Speaker 1 All right. It's so my only issue with it is

Speaker 11 that was the most exciting thing that happened tonight.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's the same category as Castellano. That was a great call.
So

Speaker 11 all right, I'm ready for the last 1131 now, Kevin. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Look at that.

Speaker 1 There might be funnier. We had Kevin Harlan,

Speaker 1 the LeBron James call.

Speaker 1 With no regard for authority. No regard for real life.

Speaker 1 So there's a couple of funny ones that we'll throw out there that you can play.

Speaker 1 We were thinking about doing Bartolo has done it. Yeah, my bad.
Yeah, all-time call. What a moment.
That might just be one of the best sports moments.

Speaker 1 I am shocked that Havelchek stole the ball, but didn't get picked.

Speaker 1 Hank put it in there, I wouldn't say. The one that I was going to say, I wouldn't say, is Touchamo Joe.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Callone looking for his first hit of the year. He drives one.
Deep downfield. That goes upton.
Back near the wall. It's out of here.

Speaker 1 Bartolo has done it.

Speaker 1 The impossible has happened.

Speaker 1 So great.

Speaker 1 Impossible has happened.

Speaker 1 The team vacates the dugout. as Bartolo takes the long trot,

Speaker 1 his first career home run. And then the other ones we were thinking were one of the best parts about that call was right before the pitch, he goes, Bartella looking for his first hit of the season.

Speaker 1 The best. The other, this one's a classic that we were thinking, highly considering doing.

Speaker 1 Roger Clemens is in the box. Susan Waldman.
Maybe the funniest call of all time when she's crying on air. He's in George's box.

Speaker 1 Of all the dramatic things I've ever seen in my life, Roger Clemens is back. Yeah, that top one.

Speaker 1 Roger clemens is in george's box and roger clemens is coming back oh my good goodness gracious

Speaker 1 of all the dramatic things

Speaker 1 of all the dramatic things i've ever seen roger clemens standing right in george steybrenner's box announcing he is back roger clemens is a new york yankee

Speaker 1 that's so good uh

Speaker 1 we also had friend of the of the show uh joe buck a disgusting act by Randy Moss. I thought that was going to get picked for sure.

Speaker 1 It's tough, too, because you see this on a graphic and it doesn't really paint the picture. Oh, I think everyone knows it, though.
Yeah, pretty much. That's what I'm saying in general.
In general.

Speaker 4 The Vikings are not inside field goal range for Morton Anderson.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 Moss.

Speaker 4 Oh, Al Harris playing off.

Speaker 4 Bit up on the route, and Randy Moss without even really being able to run as he shoots the moon to the fans here in Green Bay. That is a disgusting act from Randy Moss.

Speaker 1 And it's unfortunate that we had that on our air live. That is disgusting action.

Speaker 1 Let's get back to the

Speaker 1 Randy Moss. I don't even know what he was doing in the huddle.

Speaker 4 We did start to do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but in social media and everything.

Speaker 1 A couple other classics that we missed.

Speaker 1 Send it in Jerome, Bill Raftery. Bill Raftery.

Speaker 1 I have to play all these.

Speaker 1 I thought this one would get picked. Vern Lundquist in your life.
Yeah. Tiger Wiggs chipping for masters.
There's a really good one.

Speaker 1 All these have mostly been from the side of either just pure excitement or from the winning team. But for a losing one, the Plano East High School Football Championship in Texas.

Speaker 1 I forget they were winning by like 28 points with a couple minutes left, and they end up choking away the game at the end.

Speaker 1 And then after the comeback happens, then the team that was up comes back and beats the team that just came back. The announcers from the team that ended up losing just goes, God bless those kids.

Speaker 1 I am sick. I want to throw up.

Speaker 1 The best. Yeah, we almost picked that one.
That one probably would look good on the graph. I think the best Mike Breen Bang is Ray Allen.
Oh.

Speaker 1 We also were thinking about doing no disrespect, but I'd knock it out of the park. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank also said,

Speaker 1 Michael, you stuck it. Oh,

Speaker 1 after the the shot against the Cavs. Yeah, yeah.
I also wanted to say the Villanova National Championship. That's not a bad one.
That was

Speaker 1 Jenkins, yeah.

Speaker 1 Villanova. I also was looking,

Speaker 1 I thought in my head that the Bobby Knight call was better.

Speaker 1 The chair on the floor. Yeah.
But it wasn't. Yeah.
I think it's just the moment, not the call.

Speaker 1 The long home run by Giancarlo Stanton that ended up just being an out.

Speaker 1 Can we actually listen to that? That was a funny one to go back. That one is very, very funny.

Speaker 12 Stanton's at 273, 35 homers, and 97 RBI.

Speaker 13 And Ploecki, who always now catches,

Speaker 13 they're not saying that,

Speaker 13 well, I want Ploecki to catch me, but the numbers with Evaldi and Ploecki are much better than Evaldi and Vasquez.

Speaker 14 That's why Ploecki's.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, this isn't it.

Speaker 1 This ends up being a single. There was another one where it was caught.

Speaker 1 Oh, there were two different ones.

Speaker 8 the ballpark.

Speaker 12 A Stantonian

Speaker 1 home run. This is it.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 what did I do wrong?

Speaker 1 A Stantonian home run.

Speaker 13 I thought it went out. Aaron Boone is looking.

Speaker 14 Are they going to look at this?

Speaker 1 Yeah, then they tried to cover it up when it wasn't even close

Speaker 12 of the monster seat.

Speaker 13 All right, let's see.

Speaker 14 I thought it hit off the top and came back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's another one from a home game.

Speaker 1 It is gone, but caught.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Sterling. All right, good Mount Rushford, though.
I feel good about that. I apologize to the YouTube viewers right now because you're just going to not.

Speaker 1 We're not showing them. Yeah, actually, you're just going to.

Speaker 1 Can we play one more? It's a short one.

Speaker 1 Can you just search for that's kind of gay college football?

Speaker 1 It's a very funny call.

Speaker 1 It's on ESPN.

Speaker 15 That looks like a pass that needs to be caught. Yeah, you can't use your shoulder to catch a football.
You've got to get your hands out there every night.

Speaker 15 And I'm out there with my kids working on catching the football. They want to use their body.

Speaker 15 It's just a natural instinct as a human being, but you've got to learn to be able to put the ball in your hands. Your hands are what makes it possible.
Your shoulder pads are hard and stiff.

Speaker 15 Your hands are

Speaker 1 tender and they can move and caress the ball.

Speaker 1 That's kind of gay, but hey.

Speaker 1 Oh, I go straight to the point, you know?

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 1 Now, I would never pick one of my calls, but if I were, the ending of the Arizona ball is pretty sad. Yes, yes.
Yeah. But again,

Speaker 1 I hope you're not picking up over that by accident. No, it's all good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Good Mount Rushmore.
Good Mount Rushmore. That was just a solid Mount Rushmore.
Just good vibes. I feel good about it.
Yeah. Well, I feel great about our picks, PFT.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel great about our picks.

Speaker 1 I feel real good about my picks. We, we're, we're, we're on

Speaker 1 mathematically safe like zone. Also, you've won this one.
No, well, I think we will. Okay, congrats.
What's your magic number? That's what I want to do.

Speaker 1 We got to figure out what's our magic number so that we don't have to do the punishment. Yeah.
Well, you're only up to three points, and there's 21 points left. No, I know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but we still want to know what we still got to know what the magic numbers are.

Speaker 1 No, Jake, we said we want to know what the magic is. Yeah, we're not saying we've hit it.
We're saying what is our magic number?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Right.
So please figure that out. Okay.
Figure out what our, we got to start talking magic numbers. I feel like it's too tight for any magic numbers to be pulled.
You still want to know.

Speaker 1 You can have a magic number in day one of baseball. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your magic number day one of baseball is 161. Okay.
Right?

Speaker 1 If you win the first game, you're 161. Yeah.
It's your magic number. I think.
It's like, yeah, it's a weird formula. I don't think it's that weird.
It's wins combined with last place losses.

Speaker 1 No, but if you win every game, though, Jake. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's your magic number. Yeah.
Then you're going to win. Okay, so your magic number would be seven.

Speaker 1 Seven more points? Seven more wins. Seven more wins.
Seven more wins. So 14? 14.
Is our magic number? Probably. Well, no, it's lower than that.
Yeah, it's two leads. How many points?

Speaker 1 Two lower than that? It's 20 points.

Speaker 1 So 15 is our magic number. And if we win this one, it'd be 13.
Yeah. Okay.
If.

Speaker 1 Big if. Big if.
All right, let's do our last

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We got Fire Fest of the week.
Jake, why don't you start? Oh, thank you. It's been weird starting off.
I've been going last for five, four years. Yeah, Hank's on vacation.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So a little follow-up to a few weeks ago. I am moving on Monday.
Let's go. Jake, let's go.
No longer last year. It's exciting.

Speaker 1 It's exciting, but it's also, it sucks because I'm going to be spending the week actually moving in.

Speaker 1 Now, were there any things about your apartment, your American Disabilities Act approved apartment that you're going to miss?

Speaker 1 No. Now, Jake, you said it sucks because you'll be moving in.

Speaker 1 Would you say it sucks to not be able to use your legs? Because that would suck more.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you're opening up that spot for someone who needs it more than me. Okay, just perspective.
I'm just so guilty over the last month living out of boxes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you had a really tough.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So actually, thank you, Jake. Thank you for doing that, for living out of boxes and then giving your spot up Yeah, it's very you're a hero.
I couldn't imagine doing it another day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but now someone who needs it will get it and I'm gonna be moving again. Very good.
Very good. Uh

Speaker 1 PFT my fire fest of the week is that Blake my dog bit my penis

Speaker 1 What

Speaker 1 he bit my penis tackled your penis like Vernon Davis got tackled by his penis? He bit my penis

Speaker 1 He's a little bit bitey right now, so he kind of puts his teeth on everything. I had his rope toy.
I was holding his rope toy. He leaned in for it to try to grab it.

Speaker 1 I pulled it back. He missed low.
He bit me on my penis. He bit me directly on my penis.
That's tough. And now he's got a taste for penis.
So no penis is safe around him.

Speaker 1 He's probably just going to try to just fly at everyone's dick now. He's got sex problems.
He's got sex problems.

Speaker 1 Blake's got a sex problem.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that was very painful. It did not break the skin, fortunately.
So I'm okay. Wait, so your dog gave you head.
I got with teeth. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got a really bad dog sucked you off. I got a really bad blowjob for my dog, but he bit me right on my penis.
And then yesterday he had a Zen, too, by mistake. That was...
That rocks, dude.

Speaker 1 It does rock. It rocks.
He didn't swallow it, but he chewed it. He put it in his lip, actually.
So I just went in. It was a three-milligram, got it out.
He didn't even puke or anything.

Speaker 1 He didn't complain about trying dip for the first time on like somebody else that's sitting in this room with us.

Speaker 1 So yeah, Blake kind of Blake is at one point like super masculine and then at another point, like very feminine. Yeah.
So he loves giving head and loves Zen. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 My Firefest. I'm supposed to see Mount Rushboard.

Speaker 1 So I have two. One is there was a guy with a big belly walking down my street the other day.
And my daughter was like, oh, look, that's dad.

Speaker 1 My son actually corrected her and was like, that's not dad.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 yeah, that hurts a lot. So

Speaker 1 that like put it in perspective that like what see, that's bad. So, the diet's going well, though.
Lost about 10 pounds. All right.

Speaker 1 And then I also almost pooped my pants. Almost pooped.

Speaker 1 I didn't tell you guys the full story.

Speaker 1 I told you guys that I almost, I was, it was an emergency that I pulled my pants down and did the spin move and just barely dunked it and almost rimmed it out.

Speaker 1 The full story is

Speaker 1 I didn't just barely uh get into the toilet

Speaker 1 i pooped on the floor a little bit okay just a little bit yeah it was bad it was really really bad i don't really know what to say other than it was really bad well these bathrooms here suck anyways it was i blame the toilet if you had jake's toilet i'd blow it

Speaker 1 it was at home but it was the thrill of victory agony of defeat moment because i thought i had made it And then I was sitting on the toilet and then I looked down on the floor and I was like, wait a second.

Speaker 1 Like, uh-oh.

Speaker 1 How'd that poop get there? You're going to see like a phantom poop there every time you go to that bathroom. It was bad.
That's where it was. It was bad.

Speaker 1 I just, I didn't poop my pants, but almost worse, pooped on the, on the ground. Yeah.
Yeah. Max, do you have one?

Speaker 1 Sure. I have, I've had a cough for like six weeks now.
I can't get, I can't get rid of it. I think I'll just have it forever.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's, that doesn't, that's not a thing anymore. And long, long COVID.
Yeah. Yeah.
The other thing. Everyone treat Max and give him remedies for long COVID.
All right. Thank you.

Speaker 1 And the last one is it's a small problem. Which is weird because he's gotten vaccinated seven times.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Maccinated. I bought a new

Speaker 1 bed frame, and it's like a cheap one that doesn't have like a headboard or anything. It just like gets your bed off the floor and it doesn't have like slats and I move around in my sleep.

Speaker 1 So like my box spring

Speaker 1 slides off of the bed like midway through my sleep.

Speaker 1 When you say you move around a lot in your sleep, do you mean like like in your bed or to like the next bedroom next door that you move no i was gonna say why don't you just sleep in your girlfriend's bed roommate's bed um i live in chicago now oh okay but i wouldn't put it past you to just hop on a flight while sleepwalking sit up in her bed again max moves around a lot he fondles feet yeah uh feet guy that's also not true we saw a picture uh wait so max wait hold on so your bed you get in your bed at night you sleep and then you wake up and it's just completely off it's not off off of it's like halfway off.

Speaker 1 This also might be

Speaker 1 a violent sleeper.

Speaker 1 I think it's a lose weight.

Speaker 1 If you're rolling in bed moves the mattress, that's a lot of force.

Speaker 1 But what if it... I think it's just like a violence.
Yeah, I think it's a violent thing. I think that you're a violent roller.

Speaker 1 Well, probably with all the news that's been going on for your favorite teams, you're probably bottling it all up and it gets out in your sleep.

Speaker 1 Maybe. I've never thought of it.
I I didn't think about this as a weight thing. It could be.
I think it could be. I think it always goes like me pooping on the floor is a weight thing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 My kids pointing to fat people and being like, look, there's daddy. That's a weight thing.
There's a lot of weight things. A treadmill almost exploding every time I go for five miles an hour.

Speaker 1 Treadmills are.

Speaker 1 Once you realize. We've also signed me up for this 5K.
That's a real fire fest. That's just like a future.
Max is running

Speaker 1 Chicago 5K. So is Memes.
Are we all doing that? Yeah. I have to.
Wait, I'm running the 5K? You don't have to PFT.

Speaker 1 College football show is that weekend so i'm not gonna be able to attend but max is running hank is running memes is running jake is running um

Speaker 1 white socks dave is running

Speaker 1 i'm gonna get should i be running if you want to i'm not gonna make you i've made everyone else just because we'll you can take my spot if you want pfd that might be the weekend where i do my marathon max gets max gets five thousand dollars if he runs under 33 minutes i i hate that you're saying that because i'm not going to be able to run under thirty i'm not going to be able to do that and i can't do that why not not with that attitude i can't i'm telling you right now that's a very you kind of you kind of don't want to do that because you're going to get a check for five thousand dollars added charity no i would add it at a charity no i would i'm going to be like no he's keeping it like i don't even want to say that i would give it to them because i'm not going to be able to finish it so i can't give it to i can't and also that i'm not going to also you hate dogs this actually happened though because when we were doing yeah i was doing a video for stello blue and i just randomly said max is going to run it and he gets 5k if he does it under 33 minutes and he said well I'm just going to donate it to pause.

Speaker 1 And I said, Well, I'll just match. So now I actually would owe 10K.
So he's not going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 It's not going to happen. So it's the zero.

Speaker 1 And I feel bad for the dog. It's very sad that you've resigned the fact that you can't run an 11-minute mile.
I can run one 11-minute mile. Can you? What is it? Like three?

Speaker 1 I don't actually have to do it. 3.1.
3.1. Yeah, I could run an 11-minute mile.
Dude, 11-minute miles, not that fast. No, but, but three.
Like,

Speaker 1 one.

Speaker 1 Like, the distance is going to, I'm going to end up, I'm going going to get an injury. Like, my back is going to come out.

Speaker 1 That would be so funny. Like, it's going to, it's going to,

Speaker 1 I'm not a distance runner. That's not that far.
And it's 11 minutes. So far.
What's the best way to train for this? I run. I practice running.
I also refuse to. Yes, what about this?

Speaker 1 What if I ran it the day before with a timed, and then you just got to beat me?

Speaker 1 I'm not going to beat you. You've run.
I've never run three miles in my life.

Speaker 1 I haven't run three miles in 15 years. Wrong.
You did it. You did it.
Oh, yeah, I did do it at the Super Bowl. Yeah, on the treadmill.
Yeah, true. But treadmill is different.
I am a sneaky beast.

Speaker 1 I forgot I'm a sneaky beast.

Speaker 1 Built different.

Speaker 1 I've tried to run three miles, and then I got like a mile. This was like at my most athletic too.
At my most athletic. Max, what if I ran it with you and you only have to beat me by 10 minutes?

Speaker 1 If you can beat me by 10 minutes, I'll kick in 5k. Wait, he has to beat you by 10 minutes?

Speaker 1 I'll spot him 10 minutes. No, no, no.
Don't. That's

Speaker 1 Five minutes. I'll spot you 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 I don't think I can do it.

Speaker 1 You don't think

Speaker 1 I should physically

Speaker 1 play the time?

Speaker 1 The best part about all this, we're going to find out. Yeah, we're going to find out.
We're going to find out. Yeah.
Okay, the line is set.

Speaker 1 Memes, you don't have to run it if you can make sure that you can fill Max the whole time. Well, that's

Speaker 1 running it. No, he could get on a bike.
Actually, no, Pifty, you should ride the front seat of a tandem bike and memes will ride the back back backwards.

Speaker 1 They probably don't allow bikes in a 5K on the race course.

Speaker 1 I think they, yeah, they will. If we just go last.
Yeah, no, but I'm going to run it. And Max, that's the goal.

Speaker 1 If you can cover a 10-minute spread against me, 5,000 charity. The only way it would work is if I could give myself breaks in those 10 minutes.
Well, you can. You can.
The clock still goes.

Speaker 1 The clock still goes. No, but we start at the same time.
Yeah. So you don't know what my finish time is going to be.
Got it. Got it.
25-minute mile. 5K.
I can do that. If you get when is it?

Speaker 1 September 9th. It's the day before NFL Sunday.
So, like three weeks? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm also going on vacation next week. I'm bulking.
They're not next week. Yeah, no, PFT, don't sign.
Just make him run the 33. No, no, no.
I said it. I said it.
I'll stand by it. Okay.

Speaker 1 I just need a course map so I can scout out where the water stations are. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Okay. It's going to be fun, though.
It's going to be very fun. Jake,

Speaker 1 that was you doing a bit? No. No.

Speaker 1 Okay. Always be ready.
Yeah. Uh, okay, numbers.
Memes you ever gotten this? 18,

Speaker 1 69, 20.

Speaker 1 Memes has one

Speaker 1 eight.

Speaker 1 Memes is gonna get this one. 88.
Ah,

Speaker 1 pulls 88, 88, 88 degrees.

Speaker 1 Love you guys. The Eiffel Tower gets taller in the summer.

Speaker 1 Shy away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love of day. Shy away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love of me.

Speaker 1 Let's say, so I watched it.

Speaker 1 But each of the little ways

Speaker 1 of it, stay on me.

Speaker 1 Stay on me.

Speaker 1 You're all in love with a number.