Lions WR Amon Ra St Brown, Phil Mickelson Likes To Gamble, Mt Rushmore Of Siblings + Fyre Fest

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Detroit Lions Phenom, Amon Ross St. Brown.
Awesome interview with him, and we thought he's got a brother in the league.

Speaker 1 You'll hear some funny stories about he and his brother growing up. So we're going to do the Mount Rushmore of siblings.
The Mount Rushmore of siblings. We're going to talk a little Phil gambling.

Speaker 1 We're going to read some headlines.

Speaker 2 Do stepsisters count?

Speaker 1 Stepsisters Stepsisters count.

Speaker 1 Take it easy, Ted Cruz. No, what was Ted Cruz? What was he?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that was that stepsisters?

Speaker 1 I think that was Incest Porn, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Incest porn. We'll do the Mount Rushmore incest porn on Monday.

Speaker 2 We have Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 Fire Fest of the Week. And we're going to send you off some real football being played this weekend.

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Speaker 1 Now in the street, there is violence.

Speaker 1 And then a lot of solid work to be done.

Speaker 1 No place to hang out or washing.

Speaker 1 And then I can game all on the sun. Oh

Speaker 2 It's part of my take isn't about Marshall Sports.

Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Friday, August 11th, and I'm starting to think that Phil Mickelson might be a little bit of a gambler.

Speaker 2 He bet a billion dollars.

Speaker 1 So that's tough to do. That's total.

Speaker 2 That's $1 for every download Part of My Take has had.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Seriously.

Speaker 1 We don't like to pat ourselves on the back, but we might as well. That is a wild stat.
Gaz,

Speaker 1 who's, you know, probably, he's actually in charge of all bar stool.

Speaker 2 Well, we should give him credit for this because Gaz did pick us up off the scrap heap. He invented Part of My Take, and he actually writes every episode.
He's writing what I'm saying right now.

Speaker 1 So apparently, he tweeted out that, according to Pod Track, there have been 10 podcasts in the history of podcasting that have reached a billion downloads, and you're listening to one of them.

Speaker 1 That's pretty fucking wild. When I saw that stat, I was like, man,

Speaker 1 take a second. Holy shit.
Thank God we got everyone in China to listen to Pardon My Team.

Speaker 2 It is, it's very, very insane. We do have to go after the Indian audience, too, if we really want to make those numbers explode.
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Speaker 1 Not mine.

Speaker 2 Well, who's your goat? The other one. Jiminy.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it is like humbling to think that there's a billion people that have downloaded this, but I'd just like to take the opportunity to tell the college radio station that fired me to suck my dick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there we go. But yeah, seriously, we've gotten a little sappy a couple times in the last couple of months, but we'll get sappy again.
That is a mind-blowing, mind-blowing stat.

Speaker 1 So thank you to everyone who supports us. Best fans in the world.
Best fans of the world.

Speaker 1 I told this story last week, but remember when we were driving to Detroit and we're like, what if pardon my take hadn't worked?

Speaker 1 How much would that have sucked?

Speaker 2 It would have sucked big time.

Speaker 1 Our lives would have sucked.

Speaker 2 Also, the way that they phrase that list, one of 10, that means that we're the 10th.

Speaker 1 That means that we're we have over nine MLKs. Yeah, it just crossed a billion.
It's exactly the down review tweet.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 I mean, Joe Rogan is like, that's the craziest part about Joe Rogan is like, we are a very big podcast and Joe Rogan dwarfs us.

Speaker 2 He's probably got 10 billion lists.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
So thank you to all the AWS watching.

Speaker 2 And it's just Billy downloading his episode a thousand times a day.

Speaker 1 It's crazy we got to one billion without even hitting our 500th episode.

Speaker 2 That is wild. Yeah.
And if you break it down by the number of shows, fastest, yeah, we're a fucking rocket ship.

Speaker 1 We're fastest to a billion.

Speaker 2 Can't wait till we get to a thousand episodes. No, 500.

Speaker 2 No, but I mean, like, imagine us if we're double.

Speaker 1 We haven't even gotten to 500.

Speaker 2 Wait, let me look this up. I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 This is our 500th episode. Or is it Monday? I think it's today.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Congratulations, guys.
Congratulations.

Speaker 7 I'm pretty sure viewing the back end. I think a thousand passed.

Speaker 1 JJ, come on. I ain't got to ruin the bit.
I know it's a bit, but like,

Speaker 1 okay. Yeah, no, it's okay.
Jake, what did you think about Phil Mickelson betting a billion dollars? I have a take.

Speaker 1 I don't think that that's as crazy.

Speaker 2 It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that's not wins and losses. That's money gamble.
Right.

Speaker 2 So if you break it down by the numbers, if we dive into Phil's gambling career, he's lost, I think, $100 million.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 That's a lot.

Speaker 2 I'm going to say that Phil Mickelson is a pretty good gambler.

Speaker 1 He's a pretty good gambler.

Speaker 2 He's only lost 10%.

Speaker 1 I was just thinking about it.

Speaker 1 I did float this as a little trial balloon this morning in my house. I told my wife, I was like, do you see Phil Mickelson has gambled a billion dollars? A little perspective.
Like, man, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And she was like, how much have you? And I was like, oh, I got to go.

Speaker 1 So I was thinking about it. I do think that it's an eye-popping number.
It also goes back to my belief that anyone who is a gambler, save how much you have gambled and just wait for the book.

Speaker 1 Because it is an all-time, like Charles Barkley, I think, did this as well, where it's like, if you're writing a book, just throw out a big number of how much money you've gambled and you will get people to buy your book.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's actually a pretty good way to do it. So it's from Gambler, Secrets from a Life of Risk.

Speaker 1 It's Billy Walters, yeah.

Speaker 2 Billy Walters, professional gambler. They list him as being like the best gambler of all time.
Is that true? Yeah. Because I feel like a lot of gamblers

Speaker 2 call himself. Yeah, that's true.
What, 70%

Speaker 2 NFL last year.

Speaker 2 The craziest part wasn't the $1 billion. I mean, $1 billion is a lot of money to bet on anything.

Speaker 2 I don't care if you spread it out over the course of your entire life.

Speaker 2 The craziest part was that Phil tried to call in a bet on the 2012 Ryder Cup

Speaker 2 from Medina, which Hank and I have played before.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was great. Yeah, Hank's played multiple times.

Speaker 1 They know Hank and the first time. A couple or a few.

Speaker 2 Couple.

Speaker 2 A bunch? Couple. A bunch of times.

Speaker 2 He tried to bet on the 2012 Ryder Cup while he was playing in it. He called in the bet from the golf course, trying to put in, it was a six-figure bet, $400,000 for the U.S.
team to win,

Speaker 2 which they ended up losing.

Speaker 8 They just collapsed the Ryder Cup history.

Speaker 2 They actually didn't take his action on that. So, well,

Speaker 2 that book didn't take it. Who knows if Phil called his second guy and tried to put the bet in guy?

Speaker 1 Oh, he definitely got that bet in.

Speaker 2 Listen, he got that bet in.

Speaker 2 He's got to roll it off. He got that bet in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he gambled so much that it wouldn't be surprising if Phil like gets in bed with the Saudis and tries to have them bankroll him.

Speaker 2 I don't think Phil would do that. So

Speaker 2 if I know anything about Phil, yes, he does love to gamble, but he loves his legacy and he loves the tradition of the PGA tour. Yeah.
I couldn't see him turning his ball.

Speaker 1 Also, the biggest lie is Phil said that he hasn't gambled in like six years. Did you see that tweet the other day?

Speaker 2 Which six years were those?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, zero to six. Yeah, it's it's uh I still though, a billion sounds like a lot, but I was doing the numbers in my head.
And like, if you're betting,

Speaker 1 I bet 20 college football games and then 10 NFL games, just actual bets placed on a weekend is a lot of money.

Speaker 2 I imagine that Phil is also stepping up his bankroll after he wins a tournament. Like, the units definitely change for a little bit.

Speaker 2 Phil has a secret bank account that his wife does not know about. Definitely.

Speaker 1 The best two lines, though, from the piece that the book's coming out, maybe we should try to get Billy Walters on the show.

Speaker 1 He was in jail. I would assume he's out of jail.
Why?

Speaker 2 For being too good at gambling?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's being too good at gambling. He said,

Speaker 1 Phil's a big-time gambler, and big-time gamblers make big bets. I kind of want to get that as like one of your so true

Speaker 1 things in big time.

Speaker 1 That's just a great shirt. This is the house.
Like, you walk in my house, the mat. This is the house of a big-time gambler, and big-time gamblers make big time bets.

Speaker 2 Right below the live, laugh, love.

Speaker 2 Oh, by the way, I got a live, laugh, love to complete my wall.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 2 No, it's not nice. They sent me live, love, love.

Speaker 1 Oh, there's no laughing there. They're trying to send you a message.

Speaker 2 They're trying to be like, yo, be funnier. Yeah.
Either that or it's just like,

Speaker 2 maybe just more love.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think they're telling you you got to love more. I got to love more.
You got to love hard.

Speaker 2 You're hard sign from the universe.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's

Speaker 2 big time gamblers make big time bets.

Speaker 1 I just love that. Like, I might,

Speaker 1 if the Bears lose to the Commanders, I might have that be my tattoo.

Speaker 2 Imagine going into the casino and you're wearing that shirt and you go up to the sports book and you put like 20 bucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Big time gamblers make big time bets.
The other one that hurt, and this is hurtful for Phil, I know like him reading this, he probably doesn't give a fuck about the 1 billion number.

Speaker 1 He likes the quote, big time gamblers make big time bets. But the fact that Billy Walters started placing bets for Phil and then his accounts got shut down because they're like,

Speaker 1 these are clearly not you. It's not reckless anymore.
Yeah. That hurts.
They're basically like, you are a dumb better. Why are you only taking sharp games and only playing like three games a weekend?

Speaker 1 That sucks to see in print.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, if this is the worst thing that Phil will ever do in his life, then that's a life well lived. Honestly, we should all aspire to have enough money where we can end up losing $100 million

Speaker 2 and still be a multi-multi-hundred millionaire.

Speaker 1 Big-time gamblers make big time bets.

Speaker 1 That's just a fact.

Speaker 2 Basically, Phil Mickelson is Mr. Beast with a gambling addiction.
So he's like, I'm going to bet and lose a lot of money, but that's my personality.

Speaker 2 My competitive spirit is going to ensure that I end up making three times as much money as I give away.

Speaker 1 What would have been a worse headline?

Speaker 1 Phil Mickelson bets $1 billion or Phil Mickelson bets $100,000 in his life. He was just only doing $5 parlay cards.

Speaker 2 Way worse.

Speaker 1 Way worse. He's a big-time gambler who makes big time bets.

Speaker 2 Big time bets.

Speaker 1 I am really, that phrase is just going to be ringing in my head.

Speaker 1 Like as I, as I put in a bet, yeah, like, you know what? Yeah, you make big time bets. Come on.

Speaker 2 Put yourself up. So Walters also said that Phil Mickelson, Mickelson, one of the most famous people in the world, and a man I once considered a friend, embraced a bait.

Speaker 2 Is Phil Mickelson one of the most famous people in the world?

Speaker 1 At one point.

Speaker 1 Ooh, no.

Speaker 2 Can't be. He's in the top 1% of the 1%.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but similar to a Joe Rogan, pardon my take, Tiger Woods, like...

Speaker 1 is whatever it is, a millionaires, Phil, in terms of, you know, celebrity and recognizable, like recognizability?

Speaker 2 I think maybe inside of a casino, Phil Mickelson might be one of the most recognizable.

Speaker 1 Anytime anyone's making big-time bets, Phil Mickelson is at least the most famous government.

Speaker 2 After all, Mickelson gets his wings. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 That makes him more famous.

Speaker 1 I mean, golf is pretty big in Europe, so he's, yeah, he's up there, but I wouldn't say that if Phil Mickelson was walking down the street, do you think he would get stopped endlessly?

Speaker 1 I don't think endlessly. Where?

Speaker 1 New York City, Chicago, L.A.?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think in a big city, he probably would.

Speaker 2 Depends on how big his sunglasses were at the time. True.
They've gotten bigger over the years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess. Well, see, these are always hard to judge.
Like, this actually goes back to our conference realignment talk on Monday when we were saying we'll still watch.

Speaker 1 Someone did point out, like, we are 0.0001% of football watchers. Not to brag, but it's just a fact.
So, like, us saying we would still watch, of course, we'd still watch. We watch all football.

Speaker 1 So, Phil,

Speaker 1 like, I would obviously recognize Phil because, you know, I love sports and any like die-hard sports fan, but like the regular people?

Speaker 2 I would recognize Phil's man boobs anywhere. He kind of lost him recently, but it was like him and Jim Schwartz that had the most recognizable man nipples out there.

Speaker 2 Uh, but he's he, he does kind of his body transforms every time Phil shows up to a tournament. The first picture of Phil approaching the media always goes viral.

Speaker 2 And everyone's like, holy shit, look at Phil. He looks so different.
He looks awesome, yeah.

Speaker 1 Or bad who gets recognized more walking down the street in New York City Livvy Dunn or Phil

Speaker 1 I mean isn't she like isn't her demographic like college campuses I think it's every campus I mean I'm not in a college campus I'm a fan I personally don't know what she looks like

Speaker 10 I do you're the worst demographic for anything though yeah yeah I don't know anything

Speaker 2 you can't be in this conversation yeah I honestly don't think I would recognize Livy Dunn

Speaker 1 you wouldn't recognize

Speaker 2 baby gronk oh that's her yeah If Baby Gronk was sitting next to her, I'd be like, that must be Livy Diggs.

Speaker 1 What if Baby Diggs was? Oh, yeah, him.

Speaker 1 Well, Baby Diggs wouldn't be standing next to her. Baby Diggs would break it her ankles, catching a ball over her.

Speaker 2 I would never randomly run into Baby Diggs because whenever I'm in the same city, I got to tap in out of respect.

Speaker 1 Well, I'd never run into Baby Diggs because he'd be running past me. I love baby digging.
I can't defend him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, jamming Baby Diggs at the line.

Speaker 1 Good luck. No chance.

Speaker 1 Okay, so not a ton going on. Obviously, first preseason games for a bunch of teams tonight.
Let's knock on wood wood collectively for no injuries.

Speaker 2 No injuries.

Speaker 1 No injuries.

Speaker 1 But let's do some headline reading.

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Speaker 1 Because we are still in August. I'll just rip through them.
You guys give me your thoughts. Texas beats out LSU, Miami, for number one D end in 2024.

Speaker 2 I just don't want to know what year he was born in. Okay.
Because it's probably like 2000.

Speaker 8 He must be from Texas. Five.

Speaker 1 Colin Simmons.

Speaker 1 Colin Simmons will be playing in Austin. He is the number one recruit.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 1 he's from Texas.

Speaker 2 It's crazy to think that if you had a little oops mistake while you were in college, your kids right now would be entering

Speaker 2 NCAA football. That is true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they would definitely be entering that's scary.

Speaker 2 NCAA football. My kids, maybe not yours.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. Colin Simmons was born.

Speaker 1 He is,

Speaker 1 why can't I find his birthday anyway? He must be what?

Speaker 2 It must be 2006.

Speaker 1 2006. That sucks.
Damn. That sucks.
That is brutal. That is brutal.
Yeah, Duncanville, Texas. Duncanville, Texas.
Colin Simmons. Man, that

Speaker 1 suck a lot.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about it. They were showing the ages of NFL coaches, and we're still holding on pretty well.
Because, you know, I think McVay is younger than us.

Speaker 2 The floor is around the same age, probably. Yeah,

Speaker 1 a couple of the new guys might be younger than us, but that will suck when we get to a few more years down the line and then they list all the coaches, and there's like a third.

Speaker 2 Well, when McVay was talking about retiring, if he had actually retired from coaching football, that would have made me feel super old.

Speaker 1 Yes, that we

Speaker 1 did, we podcasted for his entire career as a head coach. Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, next headline: Titans, Williams, Lauds, Vrabel, for head coach opportunity, for HC opportunity.

Speaker 2 Okay, so I think he's their defensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 Terrell Williams.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 he's coaching the preseason.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. So Vrabel is letting him wear the headset, call the plays, that sort of thing.
I like that. Giving him opportunity.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 That's cool.

Speaker 2 It's also a good opportunity to bet against the Titans. Yeah.
Rookie head coach. Yeah,

Speaker 1 the rookiest of head coaches.

Speaker 1 Book, Phil bet over $1 billion, tried Ryder Cup wager. Big-time bets.

Speaker 1 Dutch star rips U.S. women's national team for Big Mouse at Women's World Cup.
Now, this is,

Speaker 1 but this is also like you saw the takes for four days, then you tried to hop on the take train. It's already left the station.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so when the Dutch, they said big mouth. Big mouse.
That sounds like fat phobic to me. It sounds like they're calling us fat Americans.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or fish you'd like to catch. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Big mouth, big mouth.

Speaker 1 I caught a big mouth American.

Speaker 2 So we didn't really talk that much about the Women's World Cup. I just want to say that I don't,

Speaker 2 reach the point now.

Speaker 2 I didn't jinx them. I just said I like watching the women play.
I think that they're more fun to watch than the men sometimes because they usually win. This team sucked.

Speaker 2 I've reached a point now where I don't necessarily blame Megan Rapino. I blame the coach for even putting her on the roster.
That's how bad she was.

Speaker 1 I also,

Speaker 1 it does, I'm not going to defend them because they did suck. If you don't want to wait to defend them.
Yeah, it's very easy.

Speaker 2 Vietnam basically did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they are a little bit of a victim of their own success where if you win multiple World Cups and dominate, everyone expects if you don't win that you're a failure.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they need to start sucking like the men and then get to the second round, everyone's happy.

Speaker 1 You know what they need is they need a FIBA loss third place finish. Remember the year that we finished third, I think?

Speaker 2 Yeah, we need to put together

Speaker 1 the Redeemed team. That was the reset because for a while it was basically, well, the Dream Team always wins.
That was the Olympics. That was the Olympics? Yeah, that was the Olympics.

Speaker 2 So we need to get LeBron James to play women's soccer.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.
Yeah. And lose.
But yeah, that was a reset where then it became like, oh, okay. Now the next time they win.
Coach K in there.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Coach K. That's exactly what happened.
Let's get Coach K in there and he'll never give up the job. Even though every other

Speaker 1 coach in the history of the Olympics did not sit on the job like he did. Have we recruited?

Speaker 1 Is he still a coach? So he could be like, is he still a coach? Oh, Plumley, you want to FaceTime LeBron and come to a Duke?

Speaker 2 Is he still the coach?

Speaker 1 Of where?

Speaker 8 USA.

Speaker 1 Probably. No, so he's probably going to try to be.

Speaker 2 Shadow coach. Yeah.
Well, he retired.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he's retired. A.K.A.
giving it up.

Speaker 1 Colts to start Richardson in preseason opener.

Speaker 8 Smart move.

Speaker 1 I'm going to make a lot of knee-jerk decisions off that. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 2 I like it.

Speaker 1 He's got a lot of money. One quarter, I think he's playing.

Speaker 2 He's got all the tools.

Speaker 1 That tape is going to basically decide

Speaker 1 Anthony Richardson's fate in my eyes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if he throws one touchdown pass, I'm in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or one cool, like stiff arm or long run. I'm all the way in.
Fountis exits DC United after racism allegations. Next sources, Cal Stanford to ACC hits roadblocks.
Okay, so wait, wait,

Speaker 2 the Fountis one?

Speaker 1 I actually read about that. Okay.

Speaker 2 The guy's name is Taxi. His first name is Taxi.
Taxi Fountis? Taxi Fountis. Great name.

Speaker 2 And the organization said we don't tolerate any misogynistic language.

Speaker 2 So I guess I don't know what that means. Like,

Speaker 2 why would he use

Speaker 2 misogynistic language on on one of his teammates if his teammate is a male?

Speaker 2 Called them bitches? Yeah, probably called them a bitch. Called them bitches.
If you can't call your teammate a bitch in practice, I think I'm done with sports.

Speaker 1 Yeah, administrative leave.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's no place for that taxi. Can't believe he did it.
Sources, Cal Stanford to ACC hits roadblocks. No duh.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 What's the roadblock?

Speaker 2 Route 66?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, ACC is like, they just showed up and they're like, we got to do something. Yeah.
Cal Stanford.

Speaker 2 They should call themselves the Ocean Conference if they make this happen. So, it's going to be, they're going for some of the West Coast teams, and they're also going for SMU.

Speaker 1 They should make them do the Ocean Conference

Speaker 1 to fly the opposite way. Yeah, fly the opposite way around the world.

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 1 That would be cool just to watch the graphic.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just have, just have colleges that exist on airplanes.

Speaker 1 Miles traveled for the Cal football team this year is like, is like 400,000.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I could see Commissioner getting, like, just organizing that conference so that he could funnel the frequent flyer miles to his personal account.

Speaker 1 That's smart. That's actually really smart.
Status. And then last one sources: Byron agrees to a $110 million deal for Kane.

Speaker 1 Patrick?

Speaker 1 Harry. Oh, Harry Kine.

Speaker 1 Harry is no longer a Tottenham?

Speaker 2 He's a tap-in merchant, is what he is. Wow.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. He's got to decide.
He's got to decide whether to leave or not. Okay.

Speaker 1 Cool.

Speaker 1 And that was headlines. That was headlines.

Speaker 7 We always headline that somehow isn't on the top page anymore.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Max's team threw a no-hitch.
No, that was headlines. Come on.
That was headlines. Yeah.
Jake's headline.

Speaker 2 Jake's pitching a perfect game right now in terms of ruining bits.

Speaker 1 I might leave.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Jake.

Speaker 1 We need you.

Speaker 1 Your presence is great because your presence is basically the dudes that tweet us correcting us constantly and being like,

Speaker 1 how did you not know? Like, they probably are tweeting Hank right now, being like, dude, how did you not know they fly orcas? They don't. Yeah, they do.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And Tokute is going to be free as fuck.

Speaker 1 No, there is one more headline. It is the top of ESPN.
Five trades that should happen before the NFL season starts and why they benefit both sides. Okay.
Oh, yeah, that is.

Speaker 2 Barstool for ESPN.

Speaker 1 Done.

Speaker 2 Penn Management gets... A plus for that trade.

Speaker 1 Yes. All A pluses.
Everyone wins.

Speaker 2 Which team could use Chase Young? I actually, I do think that Chase Young would be a good person to trade for the Commanders. I'd take him.
I feel like he's he's right now,

Speaker 2 he's going to be a free agent, so is Montez Sweat. I'd rather have Montez Sweat and then whatever we can get for Chase Young right now.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I can't log into my continue reading of ESPN.

Speaker 2 So just read the first paragraph.

Speaker 1 That's what I think. But I have ESPN.
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 Buccaneers trade for Trey Lance.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 For a second-round pick and a third-round pick. Why would that doesn't seem like anybody wins?

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm in. I'm in.
I'm in two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. That makes that a no-win.
That makes no sense.

Speaker 2 That's a zero winner.

Speaker 1 That one is not one that needs to to be done.

Speaker 2 Ravens trade for Chase Young for a third-round pick, fifth-round pick.

Speaker 1 Jets trade for Mike Evans. Holy shit.

Speaker 6 That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 It would, yeah. Because you guys would lose your in Rogers bet.

Speaker 2 Mike Evans made

Speaker 2 quite the surprise appearance in the Johnny Manzel documentary.

Speaker 1 We have to watch it still. Monday when you do the review.
It's good.

Speaker 7 Everyone's tweeting the spoiler of how it ended, though. I've seen it like 10 times.
Oh, it's not.

Speaker 1 It's life, Jason. Oh.

Speaker 2 No. We know what Johnny Manzel ended up.

Speaker 1 We know how the documentary ended. Oh, okay.

Speaker 7 I'm not going to. I'm just saying

Speaker 1 Johnny Manzel

Speaker 1 doesn't continue playing NFL football.

Speaker 1 No spoilers. Okay.
Was I close? Yeah, I think you were. I think you were.
No. Johnny Menzel.

Speaker 2 Is there an after-credit scene I didn't see?

Speaker 1 Stop playing. No.
I haven't watched it yet.

Speaker 8 Living in Scottsdale.

Speaker 1 Hanging out. Playing golf?

Speaker 7 No.

Speaker 1 Johnny Manzel

Speaker 1 signing. I don't know.
We won't spoil it. Memorabilia stuff? No.
Spoil it and then we'll bleep it.

Speaker 11 Everyone was tweeting about a lot how a lot of it is about how he like had alcohol issues and ended with him drinking a beer yeah it's true well he lives in scottsdale that's not a spoiler

Speaker 1 i thought well no he had he you thought he was sober but this no i don't know

Speaker 1 the whole the final the whole documentary is him loving beer with jake did and then he's doing the thing he loves at the end the documentary also starts i didn't watch it it starts with him drinking a beer too no i didn't watch it

Speaker 1 spoiler yeah him drinking a beer just how the documentary ends i'm just going to drop the rest of this.

Speaker 7 I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 Right now, Jake's pitching a no-bitter.

Speaker 7 I just need to lose my mic.

Speaker 2 Oh, stop, Jake.

Speaker 1 Don't be hard on yourself.

Speaker 2 We love you. Yeah, we love you, Jake.
Jaguars should trade for offensive lineman Patrick McCarry.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.
Jaguars should get the offensive lineman from the Ravens. Titans should trade for Hunter Rinfro.

Speaker 1 Oh, I could see that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, fill the Eric Decker role out there.

Speaker 1 I wonder if the Raiders will have a fire sale at some point. Because they do have good players.
Well, they have dudes.

Speaker 2 Three years from now, they might be adding a guy that might be getting out of prison.

Speaker 1 It's true. Henry Ruggs.
Yeah. They're rebuilding.

Speaker 2 They're like the Mets. They're targeting 2026.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't understand how you can kill someone drunk driving and only have three years of jail.

Speaker 1 That makes no sense to me. That is, that feels, I'm all for second chances, but that's, you ended someone's life.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was a huge fuck up.

Speaker 1 I do. I don't think it's a fuck up.
I think it's just you killed someone.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you killed someone, which is a huge fuck up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, but a fuck-up is like, whoops. He didn't intentionally kill you on the head by accident.

Speaker 2 He didn't intentionally kill somebody. He did make an egregious mistake.
Actually, a series of egregious mistakes. But yeah, it does seem like three years is not.

Speaker 2 Like, imagine if you were that woman's parent or her daughter or her brother or sister. Like, that's, that doesn't seem like

Speaker 2 the punishment fits the crime. Right.

Speaker 2 And that's it. Those are the trades.
Those are the win-win trades. That's it.

Speaker 1 All right. So, should we get to our interview?

Speaker 10 No. Why?

Speaker 10 Because this is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 What happened? Oh, you want to talk about how Devontae Smith mispracticed to go into.

Speaker 2 Yeah, which is, I guess, you know, if you're going to be, if you're going to be with somebody, be with them after worse times. Like Derek R.

Speaker 1 Okay, so go ahead.

Speaker 10 Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Michael Lorenzen throws.

Speaker 1 Who you didn't care about. That's not true.
Oh,

Speaker 6 I never said that. Teams find the cliff.
I never said said that.

Speaker 1 When I said Philly's got Michael Lorenzen, you said, sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 10 He's pitching great. 17 innings, two runs.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So what did he do? I think you should have pulled him.

Speaker 10 Michael Lorenzen pitched 124 pitches, nine-inning, no-hitter yesterday for the Philadelphia Phillies.

Speaker 2 That seems like they're malpracticed by their pitching staff. They only left him in the game because he had a no-hitter.
If you look at it,

Speaker 2 he basically did the Josh Hamilton to himself. He's not going to be the same pitcher after this.
Wrong.

Speaker 10 He was throwing 95 in the ninth. Adrenaline was pumping.
They kept showing his mom. His mom was at the game, bawling, crying in the ninth inning.

Speaker 1 It was one of those,

Speaker 10 like, how can you not be romantic about baseball moments?

Speaker 1 Really? Oh, yeah. I was not romantic.
I watched.

Speaker 10 I mean, you tuned in for disgusting reasons.

Speaker 6 Max. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 What do you mean I tuned in for disgusting reasons? Disgusting reasons. Because I wanted him to get pulled.
Yeah, you wanted him to get pulled. They should have pulled.

Speaker 10 No, they shouldn't. They won the game.

Speaker 10 Full game, nine innings, complete game, no hitter. How it's supposed to be done, how baseball is supposed to be played.

Speaker 1 From your balls. From your balls.

Speaker 2 So, Max, how romantic did you get with it?

Speaker 10 I don't know. I watched it.

Speaker 2 Max, you said how romantic can you be? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. How romantic can you be?

Speaker 10 No, it's like the line.

Speaker 1 Right, but how we're asking

Speaker 1 how romantic is that?

Speaker 10 Are you asking me if I like jerked off to them winning the game?

Speaker 1 I didn't say that. Why would we say that?

Speaker 1 Did you? No, I didn't. You're the one saying it's romantic? Yeah.
No.

Speaker 1 I couldn't believe that.

Speaker 2 Actually, Max, if the Phillies win the World Series, you should have to go back and watch this game film and just jack off while you watch it.

Speaker 1 Hot stream, the most romantic game of the season.

Speaker 10 I know. It was a great game.
It was a beautiful thing to watch.

Speaker 1 Are we saying Set again?

Speaker 10 Set is

Speaker 10 we got to get back to play, or at least closer to playoffs for Sets.

Speaker 1 So, two things. One, he pitched the game in vans, which was awesome.
Awesome. That was cool.
Vans, do they go? Do the cleats go to the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 10 I have no idea.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I've always wondered about that.
The Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 I think they just take shit and just throw it out back.

Speaker 2 Yeah, something goes to the Hall of Fame, whether it be football or baseball, like every single day. Yeah.
They must have just an abundance of shit that nobody cares about anymore.

Speaker 1 I think what they do is they do the like, like weekly or monthly up in front in the glass case, like look at Mike Lorenz and fans, and then after the next no-hitter, like, for fuck it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw that. So, this actually, maybe these vans, no-hitters, take the spot of

Speaker 1 the four or five pairs of shoes that the Astros put in the Hall of Fame when they no-hit the Phillies.

Speaker 10 What do they have, like, 20 pairs of cleats in there? Oh, so

Speaker 1 yeah, so you're missing the no-hitter.

Speaker 2 No, and you agree that they're in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 No, it's bullshit.

Speaker 2 In a World Series game, Jay.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 2 I can't get out of bed for a no-hitter that takes place in the future.

Speaker 10 Did you see the wild stat?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I was just going to say it.

Speaker 7 Unbelievable wild stats. Four pitchers and four pitchers only have played in the majors after attending Fullerton Union High School in Fullerton, California.

Speaker 7 And now, all four, including Michael Lorenzen, have thrown an MLB no-hitter.

Speaker 1 So, who is it?

Speaker 7 Steve Busby from 1972 to 1980. Walter Johnson, a Hall of Famer, who played from 1907 to 2007.

Speaker 7 Michael Lorenzen, and then Mike Warren in the 80s.

Speaker 1 Wow. That's pretty crazy.
That is true. I mean, that's a lot.
That is really wild. That's wild.

Speaker 2 Wait, high schools existed in like 1800s.

Speaker 11 1907.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he probably went to high school. Or what years did he go to high school?

Speaker 7 I don't know. This is their MLB.

Speaker 2 In the 1800s? Probably. This guy went to high school.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess. But he just went to like the mine.

Speaker 2 He went to war. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 He went to the Civil War for school.

Speaker 1 Get to work, kid.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, I'm happy for you, Max. Thank you.
I don't think you are. Well, celebrator and no-hitter in the regular season.
Like, who would do that?

Speaker 7 Yeah, Domingo Herman threw a perfect game.

Speaker 4 I didn't celebrate.

Speaker 10 But he's your favorite Yankee. He is your favorite Yankee.

Speaker 1 No, he's not. Yeah, he is.
no he's not we saw you with you have a domingo harmon jersey that we've seen you wear just don't leak it also there we go jason on a bitch

Speaker 1 could you imagine if it was cubs phillies world or a wild card round imagine that i can it's it's it's it's possible it's very possible max and hank week week one it would be very fun it would be played well no it'd be it's it would be because it's the they play it all one place right

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think the Cubs are

Speaker 1 a few games behind the Phillies. Not really.
They're only three back.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 10 They're a half back with the last spot, and the Phillies are two and a half up. Actually, I don't know.
The wild card math screws me up.

Speaker 1 It really is confusing. It's hard to figure out.

Speaker 10 I know that it says plus two and a half for the Phillies in the wild card first spot, and then the Cubs are a half out.

Speaker 1 So that'd be three.

Speaker 10 But they would need to get to second place.

Speaker 1 I I don't know. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to our interview and then we'll do the Mount Rushmore siblings. Before we do the interview, PFT, yet a quick word for one of our sponsors.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is wide receiver for the Detroit Lions, Monroe St.
Brown.

Speaker 1 We don't know where we're going to run this interview.

Speaker 1 We're taping it during grit week, but so we don't always ask the first question what grit means to everyone that we tape this week, but I feel like I have to ask you. Okay.

Speaker 1 Because you seem like a gritty guy.

Speaker 1 So what does grit mean to you?

Speaker 11 I would say for me, grit,

Speaker 11 shoot,

Speaker 11 scratchy, clawy, um, works hard.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 11 feel like someone that relentless. Yeah.
Um, I feel like those are the words that describe grit for me.

Speaker 11 Uh, obviously, the word grit in itself is a great word, like just gritty, but I would say relentless, tough, um,

Speaker 11 like I said, works hard, scratching, clawing, things like that.

Speaker 1 It is a great word.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I never really thought about it, but yeah, grit, it just seems like a tough word. And you were the last person on the practice field today.

Speaker 1 Was Was I? I didn't see that.

Speaker 2 I didn't think so. Yeah,

Speaker 2 will you just stay out there?

Speaker 1 Just if somebody else is out there working, you're like, I'm okay, I'm gonna wait.

Speaker 11 I'll do my work and then I'll bounce.

Speaker 1 So, 202 balls is what you catch after a good practice? Correct. Do you catch all of them?

Speaker 11 Uh, for the most part, yeah, I'll have maybe one drop, something one or two drops, but uh, for the most part, try to catch all of them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you have to do 202 in a row, like start over if you drop it.

Speaker 1 You think so?

Speaker 2 That's what I personally do 203, but two and two is pretty good, too.

Speaker 11 I'll do that, I'll do 204 just because you said that. Now I'm 205.
Well, then I'm not going to tell what I'm doing. This sounds cold warm.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do more than you plus one.

Speaker 1 Just more than you.

Speaker 1 Wait, so how did 202 come about?

Speaker 11 So I was,

Speaker 11 I live in Southern California. I grew up in Southern California growing up as a kid, and the 7-0-7 circuit is huge there.
You know, 7-0-7 football.

Speaker 11 You have the regular season where, you know, pads, whatever. Then off-season, everyone's doing 7-0-7.
You got these big tournaments and whatever. So when I was growing up, I had two older brothers.

Speaker 11 We all, you know, did everything together.

Speaker 11 And we were at this one 7-0-7 thing. There was was a kid, he was out there catching everything.
My dad went up to his dad, he's like, You know, what do you guys do to have such good hands?

Speaker 11 And the father told my dad, you know, we have a jugs machine, we catch 200 balls a day. So, my dad, being the guy he is, he went online, got a jugs machine.

Speaker 11 Um, I remember the first day it came in, I was like, shoot, we finally got a jugs machine.

Speaker 11 Like, this is crazy, you can shoot balls, you don't have to throw it because we used to just throw balls to each other.

Speaker 11 And then we're like, he told us we got to catch 202 because buddy over there was catching 200. So, why not 201? Uh, just I don't know, 202.

Speaker 1 a little extra, yeah.

Speaker 2 It actually does sound better. Yeah, 202 to 201.
I know that you've, you know, I've seen an interview with you where you list every receiver that was taken before in the draft.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to ask you to list all the receivers, but I know that you were mad on draft. You were mad on the first couple days of the draft you didn't get picked, which I respect.

Speaker 2 I understand that because you feel like you were, you were better than a lot of the guys that got picked. But also at the same time, The Lions passed on you a couple times too.

Speaker 2 So do you kind of hate the Lions a little bit?

Speaker 11 You know, one of my my best friends brought that up. He's like, you know, the lions passed on you too.
I was like, I mean, I understand that, but at the end of the day, they still picked me.

Speaker 11 So they passed on me, but they still picked me. It could have been anyone else, but the Lions were still the team that chose me.
So,

Speaker 11 I mean, yeah, I could be mad at them for not picking me, but at the end of the day still picked me. So it's like

Speaker 11 me picking a team, you know, in middle school. You go, you have two captains, you pick guys.
If I picked you, I still picked you. I might have picked you later, but you're still on my team.

Speaker 11 That's a good point.

Speaker 2 Cause like, I, believe it or not, I know I look like an athlete right now, but back back in the day, I was a little frumpier, a little less athletic.

Speaker 2 And I would always love it if I was like the second to last person pick. I'd be like, yeah, that's my guy.
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 You saved me. Ride or die.
Yeah. So I am going to have you list all 16.
Okay, you ready?

Speaker 11 Yeah. You got to count with me, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because this is crazy. The fact that there's 16 and you memorize it, like Tom Brady does that, was it Brady seven? Six.

Speaker 1 Doesn't Brady have six that he lists before that were drafted for him? I'm not sure. 16 is a ridiculous number.
Yeah. But yeah, let's go.
You ready? Yeah.

Speaker 11 Jamar Chase, LSU.

Speaker 1 That was a good pick. Yeah, it was a great pick.

Speaker 11 Devontae Smith, Alabama. Jalen Waddell, Alabama.

Speaker 11 Kadarius Toney, Florida. Rashad Bateman, Minnesota.
Elijah Moore,

Speaker 11 Omiss. Rondell Moore, Purdue.
Tutu Awa, Louisville. Dwayne Eskridge, Western Michigan.
Terrace Marshall, LSU.

Speaker 11 Amari Rogers, Clemson, Nico Collins, Michigan. Anthony Schwartz, Auburn.

Speaker 11 Diamond Brown, UNC.

Speaker 11 Josh Palmer, Tennessee, Des Fitzpatrick,

Speaker 11 Louisville, Armin Rossane Brown, USC. Wow.

Speaker 1 And you, you just, I mean, I love it. Wherever you find motivation, right? Like, you look at that every day?

Speaker 11 I have, yeah, I have it written down in my notebook. Every day I go before I go out to practice, I have my goals written down at the top, what I want to do this year.
And then I got, you know,

Speaker 11 I got round four, pick 112, never forget. Then I got all the receivers one through 16, their name and where they went to college, and I read it every day throughout.

Speaker 1 That's got to be that's going to suck to be one of those middle guys like rashad bateman's like dude my fault like what why why do you keep why do you keep saying my name every day

Speaker 2 do a redraft right now so if you were to if you were to as a gm on your big board where would you take yourself we're going first yeah i'd be a fool jamar chase is pretty good he is

Speaker 2 but i'm still picking myself every time i mean all the receivers will tell you that okay so jamar chase is listening this interview right now and he's gonna take himself first the people that would be picked before me according to amino st.

Speaker 2 Brown Amon Ross St. Brown, USC.

Speaker 1 Correct. Yeah.
Okay. Now he gets to be a bit more.

Speaker 11 You'd be a fool not to say yourself.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 I would pick myself. I would.
I would pick myself after Jamar Chase. Okay.
Personally. Nice to you.
Personally, I think he might be a little bit better than me. Right.

Speaker 1 But yeah, probably after Devontae as well, then somewhere third, maybe.

Speaker 11 This is what's this podcast called again? Part of my take. So you guys, if there's other, well, other podcasts are with you guys, like competing with you guys.

Speaker 2 There's none. None.
There's none?

Speaker 11 No.

Speaker 1 So you are one of the dark. So you're putting yourself first? Yeah.
Correct. Just like me.
No, Joe Rogan's probably ahead of us. Okay.
That's fine. Yeah.
Maybe.

Speaker 11 Joe Joe Rogan, yeah.

Speaker 1 Call her daddy. They're pretty good.

Speaker 1 Are you in daddy gang? No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 What podcasts do you listen to?

Speaker 11 I don't really listen to many podcasts. I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 11 I will say, though,

Speaker 11 the Drake with that, that Bobby girl. Yeah.
I don't watch podcasts, but my buddy came over and he put it on the screen. I'm like, bro, what are you watching? It's like, just Drake.

Speaker 11 I don't really see a lot of Drake interviews. So I'm like, I like Drake.
And I'm looking at it. I'm like, I like her.
I like the way she's interviewing. It's different.
She's in bed.

Speaker 11 I've never seen a podcast with someone in bed with some drinks on the side. And she's just talking to him like he's a regular dude, talking about what's, why do you follow so many people?

Speaker 11 Like, just the question she was asking. I think she's.

Speaker 1 Do you want us to do an interview like that?

Speaker 11 I don't think you can pull it off like her.

Speaker 2 We can get some pillows in here.

Speaker 1 What was it like growing up in France?

Speaker 11 I didn't grow up in France. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's the kind of stuff she asked.

Speaker 1 And then they just go off on a tangent about that. That's good, though.

Speaker 2 You were in French immersion, though, growing up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 I was in a French immersion school, too, really, when I was growing up.

Speaker 2 But you remember it. I don't remember any of it.

Speaker 11 I forgot a lot of French, but like someone's speaking it, I can understand it.

Speaker 11 But I haven't spoken it in so long that if you don't speak a language for so long, you kind of forget it.

Speaker 11 So French is a language that I feel like if I went back to France for about two or three weeks, I'll pick it up like that.

Speaker 2 You listen it, and you can understand when you listen to people say it. But if you ask me to say anything, it's like, no, I can't.

Speaker 1 It's a little different.

Speaker 2 You can't do that at all. It's kind of messed up that they probably made you learn, what, like math and science and French?

Speaker 11 Yeah, we're doing everything. I mean, math was in French.
Like you said, science, history, everything. Then you had one hour of English.
So the English teacher would come in.

Speaker 11 You do English, whatever, grammar and English, and then the rest is all French. You go to recess.
Everyone's speaking French. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 Would you get in trouble if you spoke English at recess?

Speaker 11 Not really. I mean, the kids will probably speak French to each other.
I mean, English to each other if you wanted, but if you're trying to get like, I want a snack, where's the bathroom?

Speaker 11 This, that, and you're talking to like an elderly, you got to speak French. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Um, we got to talk about your dad, John Brown, Mr. Universe, 1980 and 81.

Speaker 11 Yeah, yeah, something like that. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so what was it like growing up? You know, we all grew up like with the joke, like, my dad could beat up your dad, but you actually could say that to literally everyone.

Speaker 1 Like, your dad could beat up everyone. Right, right.
What was it like, like, having a guy like that pushing you, training you? Because we saw hard knocks, like, he's still doing that.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it was, um, for me, it was normal, I would say. Growing up, that was just the kind of household I was in.
I was speaking German with my mom. Boom.

Speaker 11 I'm doing all that, speaking English to my dad, flip-flopping in between sentences. If she's talking to me, he's talking to me.
I'm going to a French

Speaker 11 um my dad's working out after after school we're doing all these sports all these languages trying to get 4.0 gpas

Speaker 11 um so for me it was normal that's the life i lived um but everyone you know the outside looking in they're like damn you did so much how were you able to you know juggle everything but i just tell everyone it was

Speaker 11 When you're doing it as a young kid, it's kind of like you're used to it. It's almost like, you know, if you were born with

Speaker 11 some parents that had a lot of money, that's something you're just used to.

Speaker 11 If you were born in a household that, you know, maybe didn't have much growing up and you had to work at 14 years old, you're used to that. So for me, I was used to doing everything all at once.

Speaker 11 Like I said, going to different schools, learning different languages. My dad working this out when I was like five, four years old,

Speaker 11 going to all these different camps, practices, playing these different sports. It was normal for me.

Speaker 1 That just bummed me out because I'm thinking about my kids and like they're going to be used to just people on the street being like, what's up, big cat? Remember when you pissed your pants?

Speaker 1 And like, that's going to be their normal. Right, right.
Yeah. I wish I was Mr.
Universe.

Speaker 2 When did you start drinking protein?

Speaker 11 I would say I was, so how this whole thing worked was my, you know, we worked out, I started working out as a young kid, boom.

Speaker 1 What age?

Speaker 11 I was like five years old.

Speaker 2 Jeez. Like lifting weights?

Speaker 11 Yeah, so PVC pipes. I didn't start, you know, real weights just to get the form down.
So bench press. I didn't back squat when I was young.

Speaker 11 I was doing like dumbbell, hold the dumbbell between your legs and do regular squats. I didn't start doing like real weights, I would say, until I was seven, eight years old.

Speaker 2 That's kind of soft.

Speaker 1 Seven, eight years old.

Speaker 11 That's when I started, you know, getting the 45-pound

Speaker 11 bar to do the bench and then some back squat and whatever.

Speaker 11 But yeah, I was in the gym just to get my form right early on back in our garage. We had a garage with some weights.

Speaker 11 So I never really took protein until I would say I was seven, eight years old, but it was a protein that my dad found.

Speaker 11 that we all liked. We loved the taste of it.

Speaker 11 And it was this brand that, you know, it wasn't a big brand. It was a smaller brand, but my dad found it.
We all took it. We loved the taste.
Yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 11 So then later, my dad, two years later than that, he's like, you know what? Let me try to make my own protein. So he made his own protein.
We started taking it.

Speaker 11 I was, I would say, I was like nine, 10 years old now. We never sold it to anyone.
It was just us for the, for the, for the family. We took it.

Speaker 11 And then once I got to high school, everyone, you know, I was, I was pretty big. I was bigger than most of the kids, stronger than almost all of them, stronger than the lineman, everyone.

Speaker 11 People were always asking, you know, what are you taking? People thought we were on steroids, this, that, and the other. And, you know, we never took anything.

Speaker 11 And so my dad's like, you know, maybe we should start selling the protein. So he came out with it, started selling it.
And, you know, a bunch of kids in my area were taking it.

Speaker 11 They all, you know, all said it had results. So it was pretty cool.
But early on, he never sold it. It was just for us.
And then after he started giving it to the public.

Speaker 1 Is there another kid who took the protein who's in the NFL now?

Speaker 11 Besides your brother.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I think there's a DB that.

Speaker 11 grew up where I was from. His name is Keith Taylor.
He's on the Panthers right now. Okay.
There's a few that I think I'm sure that have taken it.

Speaker 11 um i don't know when you know when they took it but mostly i would say in california a lot of kids that i knew were to were on it yeah what was the what was the car that you rode in drive around like did it have just like every type of sports equipment in it uh honestly no my dad that my dad drove a hummer growing up yeah um badass yeah he loved the hummers so me too he had the the h2 um and that's you know we rode around that it didn't have much it would always have like a cleats in it we always made sure we rode around with our cleats

Speaker 11 um maybe a football football or so and then some shoes that you can run in, like regular running shoes or lifting shoes, you know what I mean? But cleats were always in the car.

Speaker 11 That's something I always remember is he always said, make sure you don't get anywhere without your cleats.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 2 I also read that you memorized where players went to college.

Speaker 11 I have a pretty good memory, I would say, yeah. So, like, not everyone, but like a lot of receivers I know where they went to college, just players in general, yeah.

Speaker 2 So, at USC, uh, you're getting ready for your pro day for your workouts. When you ran, what was it, 461? 4-5-1.
4-5-1, excuse me.

Speaker 1 Didn't mean mean to no no you could pack an extra 10

Speaker 2 on there but a 451 that's that's the reason why a lot of people gave that you that you slipped in the draft were you expecting to run fast or do you think that like you truly have pad speed pad speed that does not translate yeah the four-yard dash i think um a lot of a lot of scouts a lot of teams they love to look at the 40.

Speaker 11 um i mean yeah that's probably why i did drop in the in the in the process but I think game speed is a completely different than you know 40 speed.

Speaker 11 There's guys that can run, that do run 4-4, 4-3, but they they go out there and they don't look 4-3-4 4-4 and there's guys that you know run 4-5 4-6 that when they go out there they're they're playing fast i don't know how to explain it they're just moving different than than the other players it seems like i think your coach antoan randalel I feel like he was one of those guys.

Speaker 1 He was, yeah.

Speaker 2 Where it's like he ran the best routes. He was so shifty.

Speaker 2 He got separation. But it might not always translate to some guy standing there with a stopwatch.

Speaker 11 Right. It's like lateral.
I mean, you can't, there's no lateral movement in a 40. There's no stop and start in a 40.
It's just straight running.

Speaker 11 So football, I mean, how many times are you just running straight? You got to, if you're getting pressed and you're running a go, you got to make a release.

Speaker 11 There's always something, there's not just a straight run, unless you're on a breakaway with the ball in your hands and no one's in front of you.

Speaker 11 But other than that, in football, you're always moving left and right, you got to stop, you got to start.

Speaker 11 So, there's so many little factors, I think, that go into speed that you can't really judge in a 40.

Speaker 11 Yeah, they have the three-cone drill, they have different drills at the combine to try to test those things, but at the end of the day, I think you got to watch the tape.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're, yeah, like DK Metcalf, he runs a straight line, but he's wildly overrated as wide receiver just

Speaker 1 oh yeah yeah he's not that good i've got a me and dk have a little thing um but i'm faster than him i raced him one time that's a fact if you cheat in the 40 you can beat anybody that's what i learned right yeah yeah um i would imagine you haven't ever had like a crisis of confidence you seem like a very confident guy but was there a moment that you had like a oh i can do this in the nfl like this is i'm i'm i'm better than these guys like i've i've arrived uh for me i'm gonna be honest i always knew i was had a lot of confidence, like you said.

Speaker 11 So when I came in as a rookie, I was a fourth rounder.

Speaker 11 We had some receivers here. Tyro Williams, he was on the Charge and the Raiders for a bit.

Speaker 11 Khalif Raymond was here. He's still here.

Speaker 11 Brashad Perriman was here,

Speaker 11 a few other guys. So I came in,

Speaker 11 and I mean,

Speaker 11 I knew I could play. For me, my whole thing was

Speaker 11 I just needed a shot. If they were going to throw me the ball, I was going to make the most of it.
And so early on, the first few games, I didn't get too many targets.

Speaker 11 I remember my rookie year, we played the Chargers, I mean, the Rams in LA. Jared, a little homecoming, you know, just got traded, whatnot.

Speaker 11 And I had my whole family at the game, my friends, boom, boom, this, that, and the other. It was like the day before my birthday or the day after my birthday.

Speaker 11 And I remember going out there playing, and I didn't get one target the whole game. Not one target.
Everyone was there watching. I didn't do shit.

Speaker 11 It was, it was kind of, you know, it was like, damn, I'm in LA, got no targets. It's cool, though.
And I remember the Vikings game when I caught the game winner.

Speaker 1 Yep. I had like 10 catches that thing.

Speaker 11 I had a lot of catches, whatever. And ever since that game, I feel like, you know, I started getting more targets.
And I knew in my head, like, all I need is a shot because I know I'm ready.

Speaker 11 I prepared my whole life for this.

Speaker 11 So once they give me a shot, I'm going to make the most of it. And that's what I did.
And ever since then, I just never looked back. Jared said that was his favorite throw.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Really?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was that touchdown catch. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think that unlocked you.

Speaker 6 He was like, okay, I got to get it.

Speaker 1 You have been on a tear ever since.

Speaker 11 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know if it unlocked me, but it made you guys aware.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, no, I always knew about you.

Speaker 8 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 When you got drafted, I was like, this guy should go, but I like the chase.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. You should have been a first rounder.

Speaker 1 Now you're turning on the bottom. Talking about the board, you were number one.

Speaker 2 Would you say you got that dog in you?

Speaker 11 For sure.

Speaker 2 What about other guys on the team? Jared, does he have that dog?

Speaker 11 I think for quarterbacks, it's different. I mean,

Speaker 11 he can't really hit anyone ever.

Speaker 11 To be a dog, I feel like you got to have some type of physicality. For a quarterback, I mean, it's so much different.

Speaker 11 I mean, that's the one position where, yeah, you can be a dog, but are you really a dog? I mean, you're just throwing balls around,

Speaker 11 making great throws.

Speaker 11 He's not a running quarterback, so he's over just, he's commanding the offense being a general.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's just playing catch with his dogs. Literally.
Literally. Literally.
He's like Aaron Bud.

Speaker 2 What about Jack Fox?

Speaker 11 I like him. He's a dog?

Speaker 1 I like him. Dog.

Speaker 11 Dog. I take that back.
Jared's a dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jack Fox can be a dog. Jared's a dog.

Speaker 1 It's for quarterbacks, just toughness. Right.
It's just being able to get hit and get up.

Speaker 11 Yeah. I mean, Jared's tough for sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Hane Sewell, dog.
Dog.

Speaker 1 Big dog. Huge dog.
Aiden Hutchinson? Dog. Dog.
Dog. Yeah.
Rodrigo. Dog.
Dog. Yeah.
Jack Campbell?

Speaker 1 Dog. That seems like a rock.
He's a rookie. That seemed like he's a rookie.

Speaker 11 So Stoking, but I've seen enough.

Speaker 1 David Montgomery? Dog. Jamier Gibbs.
Dog. You ever seen David Montgomery's run against the Packers?

Speaker 11 I've seen it, yeah, multiple times. The run.

Speaker 1 Yeah, beast. It's a legendary run.

Speaker 2 What is that, like 61 yards up the gut?

Speaker 1 Yep. And we got a field goal out of it.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about fantasy real quick. You got a DM from a fantasy owner.
Yeah. It started off funny, and then it got a little weird.

Speaker 1 I'm going to read it, and then you can maybe give a message to all fantasy owners that might draft you this year. Okay.

Speaker 1 This random guy DM'd Amonra and said, Congrats, you have been selected to my fantasy team. With that being said, I want to set some ground rules.
We will be perfect in every aspect of the game.

Speaker 1 You drop a pass, you run a mile. You miss blocking assignment, you run a mile.

Speaker 1 You fumble the football and i will break my foot off in your john brown hind parts and then you will run a mile perfection like i said it got a little weird at the end there when he's like i'm gonna kick you in the ass but uh do you have a message to anyone who is thinking about drafting you this year um i mean i get so many fantasy messages it's actually insane uh i don't understand what the big deal is why people are so obsessed with fantasy but well remember they i guess i'll never know yeah the fans the fans do pay your salary they do yeah and the media and the media and the media yeah and you guys you guys would you'd be playing in a parking lot without us, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 11 um, but I mean, shoot, my message is:

Speaker 11 if you pick me, you will be in good hands, that's about it, okay, first overall.

Speaker 1 I mean, you pick me whenever you want, just pick me, okay, I'll pick you, you'll pick me, but I will hold hold you accountable, yeah, you will be running miles, I will, okay,

Speaker 1 I'll send you videos when you got that, were you like, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 11 I mean, I get so many, but that one was definitely stood out. I'm like, I gotta take a screenshot of this.
It's crazy, yeah,

Speaker 2 what about after a game? If do people get mad at you, get a lot of like hate fantasy?

Speaker 11 I'm going to be honest. I haven't had that many bad games in my career.
I get targeted a lot.

Speaker 6 What about that LA game?

Speaker 11 I wasn't on no one's team at that point in time. You were on my team?

Speaker 11 I was? Yeah. I was mad.
Was I on your team throughout the whole year?

Speaker 2 That was actually me that wrote you. You probably traded me.

Speaker 11 I did, yeah.

Speaker 1 You probably are a fantasy legend to a lot of people because like that breaking out and then that stretch run where like you weren't drafted in a lot of fantasy leagues and people picked you up.

Speaker 11 That rookie, my rookie year, yeah, was crazy because I had like two touchdowns. I think think it was the playoff.
Playoffs is what? Week.

Speaker 1 It was like 16. So one week before the last game, right?

Speaker 11 Yeah. So we played the Seahawks.
I had like two touchdowns, one rushing, one receiving, over 100 yards, like nine catches.

Speaker 11 And I got so many DMs.

Speaker 11 People were just thanking me. Yeah.

Speaker 6 You won some leagues.

Speaker 1 Where's your dad's rivalry with Kevin Durant these days?

Speaker 11 You know, I don't know. You'd have to ask him.
You'd probably go on a whole spiel with that. But I don't think he has no hate versus KD.
He just wants to make sure you train your calves.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a PSA for everyone out there.

Speaker 11 He still tells me to make sure I train mine.

Speaker 2 You sure? Do you do calf raises? I do.

Speaker 1 Where do you put up?

Speaker 11 We have like a standing calf machine.

Speaker 1 You put the little things on your shoulder.

Speaker 1 You work out? Yeah, we have one. Okay.
We live in the chip. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 I don't know. Maybe you live in the chat.

Speaker 1 No, we live in the chip.

Speaker 2 The calf is literally the one part of my body that I'm proud of.

Speaker 1 That's it. Yeah.

Speaker 11 But no, I put like however much weight I put on. It's nothing crazy.
Just make sure I get my reps.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What do you, what was, what's the max squat you've you've ever had?

Speaker 11 Max squat, I think it was, shoot, during OTAs, I hit like four,

Speaker 11 like four, 420, 430.

Speaker 1 How much do you weigh?

Speaker 11 200.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 Half the grass.

Speaker 11 You got half the grass.

Speaker 1 Always.

Speaker 1 Always.

Speaker 11 If it's not all the way down, I'm not counting it.

Speaker 2 That was funny in Hard Knocks when KD is probably just sitting at home watching. Like, he's like, oh, I can't wait for Hard Knocks.

Speaker 2 And then he's looking down at his cat.

Speaker 1 He's like, they are shit.

Speaker 2 Probably got in the gym after that.

Speaker 2 When you decided to go to USC, your brother went to Notre Dame, right?

Speaker 2 Did you just go to USC to piss him off?

Speaker 11 No, honestly, no.

Speaker 11 I love Notre Dame. That was actually between Notre Dame and SC.
I was like, I don't know which one I like. My brother, though, he ended up declaring early.
So he left after three years.

Speaker 11 I was like, if he would have stayed one more year, I probably would have went to Notre Dame. But he left early.
I was like, you know what?

Speaker 11 I like Notre Dame, but I want to keep my talent in California. I feel like everyone from a lot of people from California were were leaving, taking their talent elsewhere.

Speaker 1 Like Waiwan,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 11 Bryce Young went from California to Alabama.

Speaker 11 I mean, all these players, CJ Stroud, California, Ohio State, like if you can just keep all our talent in California and all go to SC, I feel like SC would be that much better. But SC's back.
So

Speaker 1 are they? They're back. They're going to have to play Big Ten football.
Don't worry about that. Oh, you sure?

Speaker 6 I'm positive.

Speaker 2 You think you guys can handle Rutgers?

Speaker 11 You heard of Caleb Williams?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I've heard of him.
He's not going to be there forever. You're right.
Then you got to go to West Lafayette.

Speaker 11 We'll get get another chance for him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Caleb Williams is, I mean, do you watch, like, I'm always curious, like, because you're in the NFL, you're playing, do you get a chance to watch USC every week?

Speaker 11 I do, but the only thing is the time change is crazy. So if they're playing at 7.30, which a lot of them were last year, it's 10.30 here.
It's the night before my game.

Speaker 11 So I'm watching two drives going to bed. Yeah.
But if it's like a day game, I can watch the whole thing.

Speaker 1 So you probably thought that Utah game was awesome.

Speaker 1 Because that first two drives were sick. Yeah.

Speaker 11 You're talking about the Pact Off championship?

Speaker 1 No, at Utah, when basically USC was kicking their ass, then the Sunshine Utah woke up.

Speaker 11 That game was crazy. Yeah.
Yeah, but the Pact of Championship, I was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that wasn't great. I was sick.
That wasn't great.

Speaker 2 So, are you guys fully back, though?

Speaker 11 100%.

Speaker 2 What does back mean?

Speaker 11 College football playoffs.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. That's a low ball.
That's the standard. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The standard is the standard.

Speaker 1 In it right now. They're in it.
Yeah, I mean, it is like last year in the Pac-12, you get to play all those soft West Coast kids. Don't run the football.

Speaker 1 Take it right now. Go for it right now.
Do you, do you watching all the NIL stuff? Are you like, man, I would have made so much money?

Speaker 11 I mean, I probably would have made some money, but I don't know how much. I always wondered to myself, how much are these dudes really making?

Speaker 1 Do you guys know?

Speaker 1 I think quarterbacks are getting in the millions, like big time, big time. Like Kay Williams, definitely.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Arch Manning, probably making a ton of money.
Yeah. What's a ton? Probably like 3 million.
Yeah. Texas.
How do you know? Because the boosters in Austin aren't. You know them?

Speaker 11 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know the boosters? I knew Red McCombs.

Speaker 1 There are boosters, too. Got it.
We have podcast boosters.

Speaker 1 But yeah, like most players, I think like average player is probably making, I don't know, 10, 20. Right, yeah.
Yeah. Nothing crazy.
Yeah, nothing.

Speaker 2 We just gave free cheesesteaks for a year to a guy

Speaker 2 at Toledo. Really? So that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 You can't put a price tag on that.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
Yeah. That's huge.
Probably huge. That's actually mini.
Or free food. Yeah.
Exactly. Free food.
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Speaker 1 You want to give us a prediction for the Lions season?

Speaker 1 A record? Yeah.

Speaker 11 Do I want to give you guys this?

Speaker 11 Did you ask this to Jared?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he said 15 and 2.

Speaker 1 15 and 2. Yeah.

Speaker 11 You're a lying.

Speaker 1 No. No, he did.
He did.

Speaker 11 You guys are good liars. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 2 I'm a terrible liar. Terrible liar.

Speaker 1 All right, fine. If you don't want to answer that question, I have a backup question.
Yeah, he did 15-2. He actually answered it? Yeah, well, we kind of pushed.
It was a roundabout way. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 So where's it? I'll give you a roundabout way.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 1 How fast is Justin fields

Speaker 11 i never won against him but

Speaker 1 from what my brother says he's fast he's fast yeah yeah no you guys you guys are bears fan i'm a bears fan so we said i said

Speaker 1 15 and two but the two losses are to the bears yeah you're a bears fan yeah really yeah interesting what what's you excited uh yeah yeah very excited you sound like my brother what

Speaker 1 What is that supposed to mean? He's excited too. He was excited last year.
He was very excited.

Speaker 11 He was excited like last year.

Speaker 1 Last year was exciting. Not in the win and loss column, but it was exciting.

Speaker 11 Was it? You had fun watching?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had a lot of fun. Do you know the history of Bears quarterbacks? That's good.
It hasn't been great. Yeah.
So

Speaker 2 I like you. You're mad.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I'm just messing with you. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's going to shut you down.

Speaker 11 Who is? Justin Fields?

Speaker 1 No, your brother.

Speaker 11 He's going to shut me down? Yeah. How does that work?

Speaker 1 We're just going to put him out there and shadow you the whole game.

Speaker 1 What's the motivation when you play the Bears? Do you find motivation for every team? Like a specific like...

Speaker 11 No, but I love playing against my brother's team.

Speaker 11 So when he was in the Packers, packers i love playing the packers i still love playing the packers just because of the packers and then the bears i love playing them because he's on the team and i know some players on the team through him um but i just whatever team he's on i love playing against it okay so now he's on the bears so but like can you find oh yeah there we go you just find a gunpoint all right yeah can you find the motivation for each team though like the jaguars jaguars i mean no i think each team is I don't really find them.

Speaker 11 It's just another game.

Speaker 1 It's just whether they drafted one of the 16 guys. I just know.

Speaker 11 if they have someone that you know, I just

Speaker 11 if someone that was drafted before me is on the team careful with that

Speaker 1 put that away.

Speaker 11 I got my eyes. I got my eyes on him.
Easy dude. I'm watching him.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 I like that. That's grit.
Right. Finding that grudge everywhere.

Speaker 11 In the mental notes.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I got one last question.
It might get my ass kicked. So can you promise not to kick my ass for asking this?

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 11 Was that a yes? I promise, but go ahead.

Speaker 1 Okay. That was not a yes.

Speaker 2 I might get my ass kicked. We had Von Miller on the show.
I just talked to him.

Speaker 1 Dog.

Speaker 2 Absolute dog.

Speaker 2 He told us that he kisses his dad on the lips.

Speaker 11 One, still?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, still.

Speaker 11 Do you kiss your dad on the lips? No, I kissed my dad on the lips growing up until I was say,

Speaker 1 what, like,

Speaker 11 until I got to high school.

Speaker 11 But then in high school, I think a few times I kissed him on the lips, like when I, what was it, when I graduated, I think when I committed.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 a lot of people think it's weird.

Speaker 11 I kissed my mom on the lips too.

Speaker 11 I kissed my brothers on the lips when I was growing up. My dad made us do it.
So we'd get in fights.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 11 after the fight was over, he would make us kiss each other on the lips.

Speaker 1 That's a good way to defuse it. You can't stay mad at somebody after you kiss them on the lips.

Speaker 2 I do that in fights sometimes. Just kiss them on the lips.

Speaker 1 Now you'd be kissed.

Speaker 2 That was going to be my plan if you tried to beat my ass. I'm just going to kiss you.

Speaker 11 But nah, my dad made us do it. So I think it,

Speaker 11 I mean, it's not a thing, I think, in America really, but I think it's a, I mean, Germany, it's kind of normal. Yeah.

Speaker 11 So it was normal for me growing up.

Speaker 1 That'd be awesome if after you played the Bears, you met in you know, the middle field kiss on the lips.

Speaker 1 All right, well, thanks so much, man. This has been awesome.
Appreciate you coming on, and uh, best of luck this year, except against the Bears. Yeah, thank you.
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Speaker 1 Let's do the Mount Rushmore of siblings. What's the order and what's the score?

Speaker 7 You guys are tied for first and second with 21, and we have 20.

Speaker 1 Okay. Wow.

Speaker 8 A lot of games left.

Speaker 8 Big week for Max next week.

Speaker 1 Oh, I got it. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 you're going on another vacation.

Speaker 8 First vacation. Well, no, but in the last couple weeks.

Speaker 1 The word another means you've taken one prior. Could be anytime.
Yeah. Oh, We have unlimited vacations in our contract.

Speaker 2 The Clarence Thomas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're going on another vacation, so you're going to let Max cook.

Speaker 1 I think you should.

Speaker 10 I'll do great. I don't know what...

Speaker 1 Guys,

Speaker 1 do you guys ever hate

Speaker 1 getting sucked off?

Speaker 1 That's not what I said. That's not what I said.

Speaker 1 Nothing I hate more than

Speaker 1 I hate more than your dickens in between two voluptuous breasts. Nothing I hate more than the internet.

Speaker 2 Than having an orgasm on some tits.

Speaker 1 The internet agreement.

Speaker 1 Okay, what's the order?

Speaker 11 Me and Billy, Hank and Max, Big Cat, and PFT.

Speaker 2 All right, and has Billy contributed today?

Speaker 1 Kind of.

Speaker 7 That's an out.

Speaker 1 You don't have to protect him anymore, Jake.

Speaker 2 Oh, by the way, do you see that Billy applied to be the general manager of part of my take? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which I don't even know if general managers are happening anymore. Who knows?

Speaker 1 So good job, Billy. We should just tell him he got it.

Speaker 2 His pitch was,

Speaker 1 my leadership strategy would just be to not do anything and let you guys do everything yeah so way different from what billy was doing before player's coach yeah yeah all right let's do it mount rushmore of siblings all right mount rushmore of siblings 1-1 we are going to go with the mannings okay oh hank you were wincing there you thought that someone else was getting picked yeah wow it's our pick right Manning's good pick.

Speaker 1 Mannings on my list. Football.
We're a football podcast. We are a football podcast.
We're in the Eli won four Super Bowls together. Cooper.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, he was actually the most overrated siblings of all time. They would probably

Speaker 7 stole two from you.

Speaker 1 Stole two. So there's Payton.

Speaker 1 Peyton.

Speaker 8 Peyton. Everyone talks about Peyton.
He won, basically, one.

Speaker 1 Better football one.

Speaker 10 Yep.

Speaker 8 Yeah, we're going better, better on this program, better football. I know what you're going to do.
Jim and John Harbaugh.

Speaker 1 Oh, God. I think you're going to do it.
Good pick. I like it on our list.
No, it's a good pick. Okay, I know what you're doing.
What were you thinking? So, how are we doing this?

Speaker 1 I thought Half was going to be something similar to to the LeBron James pick, pick something that he doesn't like.

Speaker 8 If I picked the Mannings, I would never pick the Mannings.

Speaker 1 Are we saying like LeBron James?

Speaker 1 I picked LeBron James.

Speaker 7 Are we saying like the Harbaws, the Mannings? Are we saying their first and last names? How are we doing this?

Speaker 8 Cooper Cup for Cooper Manning and Eli.

Speaker 10 I think first and last name.

Speaker 7 Okay, so Peyton and Eli. Is that a fair label?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What are we going to do here?

Speaker 2 We haven't even really discussed this.

Speaker 1 At all. Oh, no, so many numbers or comments.

Speaker 1 Start the club.

Speaker 2 Big hat, you take the, I'm just going to trust my guy. You take the first one, then I'm going to take the second one.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, no, we should talk about that. Big doesn't trust you.

Speaker 1 No, I do trust him. I don't trust him.
I want to make sure that we're.

Speaker 2 Stop that. Shut up, Hank.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up, Hank.

Speaker 1 I want to make sure that we're. Because like a little from column A, little from column B.
You know what I'm saying? So give me, just throw out some numbers.

Speaker 1 It's basically, if you listen to part of my Take My Rushmore season, you'd think that PFT and I are always ordering Chinese food. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll take a number five. All right.
Five?

Speaker 2 Okay, I like number 16.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was thinking 16 and 18.

Speaker 2 I like those.

Speaker 1 If we wanted to go combat it, okay? Yeah, yeah. All right, so we'll start.
Why don't you go 18 first?

Speaker 2 Okay, we're going to go with the Kelsey brothers.

Speaker 1 Last in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 In the Super Bowl together. Great podcasters.
Not quite at a billion downloads yet, but give them time.

Speaker 1 Both 100% going to be in the Hall of Fame. Yep.
So can't say that about the Harbaughs.

Speaker 2 You could actually make the argument that they're like two of the very, very best to ever play their positions.

Speaker 1 Yes. Agreed.
Yes. Yes.
So the Kelseys would be our first pick. We'll go football across the board.
And for our second pick, why don't we do a combo? How about a

Speaker 1 double combo? A double combo. Yeah.
They're on our list. Yeah.
Serena and Venus, the double combo.

Speaker 2 Love it. So, fun facts about them.

Speaker 2 Serena has won 39 Grand Slam titles.

Speaker 2 and Venus has won 21 Grand Slam titles.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's a lot of Grand Slamis.

Speaker 2 That's a lot of salamis.

Speaker 1 Yes, for a combo. Yep.
Double combo. Has the double combo ever been picked?

Speaker 2 No, we were the first ones to ever do.

Speaker 1 We were the first to ever, we just broke barriers. Yep.
Double combo.

Speaker 2 Congratulations.

Speaker 1 If you missed a couple episodes, we don't really do episodes with multiple picks. If you missed a couple episodes,

Speaker 1 this will be confusing. But go ahead and do that.

Speaker 8 We're about to go quintepel combo.

Speaker 1 What? I know you're done.

Speaker 8 The most talented

Speaker 8 set of siblings of all time, the Jackson 5.

Speaker 1 Oh, and that's not a combo.

Speaker 1 Not a combo.

Speaker 1 That's not a combo. There's some combos in the combination.
That's not a combo. A combo is a black woman.

Speaker 1 That's a combo. There's combos in the Jackson 5.
That's not a combo.

Speaker 2 Janet would be one.

Speaker 1 But she's not in the original Jackson 5.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Hank, can you list

Speaker 2 Michael Jackson members of the Jackson 5? And the other four. And the other four brothers.
You don't even know Tito or Jermaine? Janet's not in there?

Speaker 1 You don't know Tito? The original? No.

Speaker 2 When did she come along? Well, she was a little sister, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I thought that was the whole family.

Speaker 1 You thought she was one of the five? I don't fucking know. You don't know anything about your pick.

Speaker 1 She was not one of the five.

Speaker 2 It was Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon, and Michael.

Speaker 1 She was not one of the five.

Speaker 2 And then their father Joe.

Speaker 1 It's a good pick.

Speaker 1 We had it too, but just don't try to steal the combo. Yeah, no.

Speaker 8 It's not a combo. I thought.
Yeah. It's a good pick.

Speaker 1 It's a good pick.

Speaker 1 We had them on our list. Definitively not a

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 We're going to go with...

Speaker 1 He's such a big Jackson 5 fan. Wait, but wasn't there a high voice in there? Michael.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 We're going to go with the Kardashians.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Go on. Big name.

Speaker 1 Rank him.

Speaker 1 Kim, Chloe. Oh.

Speaker 1 I don't know the rest. You don't know the rest?

Speaker 7 Kim, Chloe.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Courtney. Yep.
And Rob.

Speaker 1 Rob is the number one.

Speaker 8 It's yeah, it's Rob Courtney

Speaker 1 Kim. Kim Chloe.
Chloe.

Speaker 8 I mean, Kendall would be up there, but she doesn't really count.

Speaker 2 Is she a Kardashian?

Speaker 1 It's Rob Riley.

Speaker 8 It's Robin.

Speaker 1 Rob and Courtney here are great. I think Jersey Jerry played golf with Caitlin Jenner today.
That should have been interesting.

Speaker 1 That's not true.

Speaker 10 There's no way that's true.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 In the pro-am. Hold, please.

Speaker 1 Hold please. That's an

Speaker 1 live pro-am, and this was a tweet from this morning. It was, I'll read it for you.

Speaker 1 Good morning.

Speaker 1 I'm at Trump National in Bedminster, New Jersey today, where President Trump and his son Eric are playing in Liv's Golf's Pro-Am that will explain some of my anticipated Twitter activity today.

Speaker 1 So buckle up. Also scheduled to play in the pro-am: Lindsey Graham, Caitlin Jenner, Johnny Damon, Jeremy Roenick, Joe Sakick, and someone named Jersey Jerry.

Speaker 1 So good. I mean, Jersey Jerry is the number one name in that.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Not even close.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Kardashians. Yes.

Speaker 1 We had it on our list. I don't think we would have picked it.
I just.

Speaker 2 It was in the brain dump that you have to throw out there because they're a very famous family. Right.

Speaker 2 But I think that they're system siblings because really their mom is the one that's pulling all the strings.

Speaker 1 Right. And it's also more that I just don't like how they treat Rob.

Speaker 1 Remember when they made Rob? Rob couldn't fit in the suit for Kim's wedding in France, or might have been Chloe's, Courtney's, I don't know.

Speaker 1 He couldn't fit in the suit, and he flew back home. He just didn't go to the wedding.
He's too fat to fit in the suit.

Speaker 1 You don't know anything about the Cardelli. Correct.
Okay.

Speaker 8 Have you even watched? Nope.

Speaker 1 If they walked in this office right now, I know they look like. Okay.
Some of them. Yeah, you would not know Rob.
Rob's my G. Yeah.
All right. Rob's top G?

Speaker 1 They're a notable set of siblings, and that's what we're doing here.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 7 Next, we're going to go with someone or a group of people who's been in the news semi-recently.

Speaker 2 The Jokic brothers.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Pick.

Speaker 2 Okay. Jokic brothers are all over the world right now.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 8 Great, greatest siblings of all time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are they known for?

Speaker 2 Being intimidating as fuck.

Speaker 1 Sorry, you guys, you guys keep doing it. We're right in the mix.
We're right in the mix. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 2 That's not a bad, it's not a bad take, Jake. This is this is a Mount Rushmore pick that I the type that I like.
Where if we're not doing a competition, that would 100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like I like the pick, maybe not for this competition, but I like we'll see.

Speaker 4 Right, doesn't matter what you guys say.

Speaker 1 Well, we vote, yeah, it's an 25 vote. I'm gonna vote for you.
You won't be voting for you. I was gonna vote for you, and now I'm not okay.

Speaker 2 Did you just disenfranchise us, Jake?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 okay, Billy's not gonna like that. Hank,

Speaker 1 Max,

Speaker 1 it's getting good.

Speaker 1 Jonas Brothers.

Speaker 10 I like that look on your face.

Speaker 1 For this podcast? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm not a Jonas Brothers fan, so I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's a good poll.

Speaker 7 We were between them as well.

Speaker 2 Hank's just pandering with you.

Speaker 10 This poll goes out on the internet.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 It does.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. PFT, I think we stick true to ourselves and we go 423.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll do four. Okay.

Speaker 2 Mario Brothers.

Speaker 1 Done. Mario and Luigi.
Mario and Luigi.

Speaker 1 Dassey. Max knows.

Speaker 2 Max knows.

Speaker 1 Max knows. Max knows.

Speaker 2 Because you look like the step

Speaker 2 or the half-brother of the Marios.

Speaker 1 That's a steal. That's a steal.
Mario and Luigi. Third round.

Speaker 2 Great guys. I was practically raised by Mario and Luigi.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And now this one could be a mistake. I'll say hand up if it is, but it is dear to my heart.

Speaker 1 And you'll have to list both of them. So I think you

Speaker 1 list Mario and Luigi. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but like Jackson 5. Are we supposed to name it?

Speaker 1 No, you just say Jackson 5.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 Kardashians, the Jokic brothers.

Speaker 1 You can say Mario Brothers. Yeah.
Yeah, say Mario and Luigi. Mario Brothers.

Speaker 1 Is there anything else you would want to pick, PFT? I don't want to.

Speaker 2 I say go for that.

Speaker 2 I like number 11,

Speaker 2 but I like your pick. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll go with maybe the greatest brother story ever told.

Speaker 1 It is Kane and Undertaker. Okay.

Speaker 2 Kane and Undertaker.

Speaker 1 I was shot throws.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they are. That was a big deal when they revealed that, right?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? Paul Bearer fucked Undertaker's mom and had Kane. You don't know anything.
And then Undertaker tried to fucking burn down the entire funeral home with Kane in there.

Speaker 1 This all happened. This is all the truth.

Speaker 2 It was maybe the wildest sports story of all time.

Speaker 10 I don't know anything about WWE, but.

Speaker 1 Sounds true, right?

Speaker 10 It sounds

Speaker 1 sure.

Speaker 1 Yes. Hank, this all happened.

Speaker 1 Okay. You don't think that?

Speaker 8 Are they not blood?

Speaker 1 Half. Half blood? Half? Yeah, half.
Does half not count? You want to throw a flag on that? No, it's fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kylie. Oh.

Speaker 1 You could get Kylie and Kendall.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we would get them part of it.

Speaker 1 And Kendall.

Speaker 8 No, we'll go with our last pick. We'll go fictional as well.
Jon Snow, Arya Stark. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 Weren't there other starks?

Speaker 1 The last season wrote it for me.

Speaker 2 Brands? Wait, that means you have to take Brand.

Speaker 1 Nope. Oh, yeah, you can do it.
There's other, no, but they're similar.

Speaker 7 Well, to be fair, we have Peyton and Eli. We didn't include Cooper on the family.

Speaker 1 Correct. Cooper definitely gets included.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's the whole family.

Speaker 1 The thing he did with Rob Riggle.

Speaker 1 Okay, good pick. Congrats on Bran.

Speaker 7 Wait, hold on.

Speaker 1 We got a

Speaker 1 very famous person calling.

Speaker 1 We're taping right now.

Speaker 1 You're on air.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're taping right now. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 Do you want to say anything? It's Brooks.

Speaker 6 hey brooks

Speaker 2 brooks how are we doing brooks hey hank go yourself

Speaker 1 what the

Speaker 1 yes uh so brooks is calling me about because we're gonna play in the live pro amp

Speaker 1 so that's exactly why i'm calling you i was trying to come up with some good ideas i was gonna run by you but not on air we're gonna save that okay all right i'll call you after but we're excited this i i'm not excited the only reason i picked up was i wanted i wanted people to get excited for the fact that we're going to be playing golf with you yes yes okay

Speaker 4 we got big stuff stuff coming. Don't worry.

Speaker 1 I love it. All right.
I'll call you when we're done in about a half hour. All right, thanks.
Bye.

Speaker 1 Congrats on the baby. That was worth picking up.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You got to call him back. You got to call him back.

Speaker 2 Be like, tell him that he hung up too fast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good call.

Speaker 1 That was a great fuck you, Hank.

Speaker 2 No worries. Why is he mad at you?

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 8 I'm just trying to live my life.

Speaker 1 He's probably going to think it's a butt tile. No one calls back right away.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 2 Unless it's super important, because this is super important.

Speaker 1 Congrats on the baby.

Speaker 2 We know he's got his phone in his hand.

Speaker 1 Maybe

Speaker 10 he doesn't want to be on the show.

Speaker 10 Fuck.

Speaker 1 All right, I'll just text him and say, hey, you hung up. Congrats on the baby.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, where are we?

Speaker 11 Our last pick, final pick of the draft, is going to be

Speaker 1 Orville and Wilbur Wright.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 They created the airplane.

Speaker 2 It's a pretty sick invention. Some people say that the Incas did that a long time ago, but yeah, they get credit for it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize that Orbill and, wait, what's the other thing?

Speaker 1 Orville and Wilbur. Orville and Wilbur, they're from North Carolina.
No, they're from Ohio.

Speaker 2 They were born in Dayton. They did the test in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 That's why there's a license plate battle.

Speaker 2 And I give that to North Carolina.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree. I agree.
So the Wright brothers. The Wright Brothers.

Speaker 6 The Wright Brothers.

Speaker 1 Flying is sick. Orville and what?

Speaker 2 Wilbur. Wilbur.
Flying is sick.

Speaker 7 Good job, by the way.

Speaker 6 Flying is great.

Speaker 1 Although, are they responsible for all the delays?

Speaker 2 Technically, yes. They're also responsible for 9-11.

Speaker 1 Yep. Jeez.
True.

Speaker 3 It's true. Jake.

Speaker 2 I mean, Jake just took 9-11.

Speaker 1 Great job, Jake. Comment there, Jake.

Speaker 1 All those people who died in Malaysia.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're also taking responsibility for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 2 And Dresden.

Speaker 1 This is racking up. We got millions.

Speaker 2 Firebombing of Tokyo, Jake, this is all on your drone strikes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 The challenger. The challenger.
Jake just took credit for the challenger. The challenger.

Speaker 1 Hank, speak up. The challenger.

Speaker 8 That wasn't the Wright Brothers.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was slumped. It started there.

Speaker 8 No, different physics.

Speaker 1 All right, what do we miss? That was a good amount of rush war.

Speaker 1 We could have picked Rex and Rob Ryan.

Speaker 2 Yeah. We thought about it.
The Long Brothers.

Speaker 11 The Long Brothers. The Watts.
Gronks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's who I thought you were going to pick.

Speaker 1 When you said football, no, I thought you were going to go Water Gronks. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Gronks are God. Why don't you take the Gronks?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Allman Brothers.

Speaker 2 The Klitschko Brothers.

Speaker 1 The Kennedys. How would that have played on the graphics?

Speaker 1 It helped you guys the other day. That's true.
Yeah, top down. Yeah, top down.
But that was killing a Kennedy. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Jake and Logan Paul.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a good one. Good pick.
The Winkle Voss. The Winkle Voss.

Speaker 10 Memes said that there was something that happened pre during prep that was insane.

Speaker 2 So, and when he was talking to Jake, what did he say? What insane thing happened, Memes?

Speaker 1 You hear me?

Speaker 2 I said the Waynes family.

Speaker 1 The Wayans. The Wayne.
Oh, the Wayne's family. Jake was like, I mean, they are.

Speaker 2 Damon, you don't know Ivory?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 This is an illuminating episode for you.

Speaker 2 So, shout out to you. Shout out to White Chicks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have.

Speaker 8 Scary movie?

Speaker 7 One and two.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Shout out.

Speaker 1 Six man.

Speaker 1 Shout out Big Tone, who DM'd me this idea for the brothers. His picks were bad, though.

Speaker 1 His picks were really bad. He said the Paul Brothers, the Winklevosses, the Molinas, the Tates.

Speaker 1 The Tates. The Tates would have slapped.

Speaker 1 The Koch brothers.

Speaker 1 He did have Jonas brothers there. The St.
Browns. Who are the Cray brothers?

Speaker 1 Anyone know?

Speaker 8 The Wahlbergs.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Wahlbergs.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Curries?

Speaker 2 The Olson Twins.

Speaker 10 Luke and Owen Wilson.

Speaker 2 The Bash Brothers. McGuire and Kinseco.
Yep.

Speaker 1 The Baldwins.

Speaker 10 I would have thrown a flag on the Bash brothers.

Speaker 1 Why? Why?

Speaker 8 Well, I mean, we're just

Speaker 8 made-up siblings.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Bash brothers.

Speaker 1 Right now, tell me right now before we put this graphic out, do you not think that Kane and Undertaker are brothers? No. So then you want it off?

Speaker 8 I don't care. It's just, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 You don't think that Undertaker.

Speaker 7 I was a big WWE fan back in the day.

Speaker 1 Paul Bearer fucked Undertaker's mom. Okay, fine.
And Kane was born. That's fine.

Speaker 1 Know your history, dude. You seriously, read a book one time.

Speaker 2 Angus and Malcolm Young from ACDC.

Speaker 1 The Gasols.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 1 Did we say the Olson Twins?

Speaker 2 I did, yeah. The Lopez Twins.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 10 Hank, did you say the Barbers?

Speaker 8 Tiki, yep.

Speaker 1 Tiki.

Speaker 7 Meme said the Morris brothers. Mark.

Speaker 8 Clay Thompson, Steph Curry.

Speaker 7 Splash. The Lopez Brothers.

Speaker 1 Clay Thompson, Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 Good pick, Max. Good pick.

Speaker 1 Griffins.

Speaker 2 The Griffins, yeah. The Griffins.
Cal and Kepkas.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Kepkas. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Cal and Billy Ripken.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Jimmy Carter and his drunk brother. That guy was a piece of work.

Speaker 1 That guy rocked. Yep.

Speaker 8 J.B. Smooth.
Abraham and Johnny Lincoln.

Speaker 2 John Lincoln.

Speaker 1 Did Abraham Lincoln have a brother?

Speaker 2 I know John Willicks Booth did.

Speaker 1 He did? Yeah. Was he like a good guy?

Speaker 2 I think Abraham Lincoln saved John Willes Booth's brother's life, actually.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 2 Years before. Probably wish he had that one back.
That's insane.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 D'Amelios was another one I said.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Cavender twins.

Speaker 1 That would have slapped. That's another.
That would have slapped on the graphic. That would have gotten the horny guys.
The Island Boys. Oh, God.

Speaker 1 The Island Boys. All right, I'll say

Speaker 1 I'll ask, were they actually sucking each other's dicks?

Speaker 1 I think so.

Speaker 1 That video, that goddamn, well, I can't say anything bad about Elon because he does pay us to tweet now.

Speaker 2 But he'll also take your side in a lawsuit against himself.

Speaker 1 That's true. Well, I want a lawsuit for allowing that on Twitter because it was,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 I hope that wasn't. It was very blurred out, so I'm hoping there was some kind of prank involved.
Yeah, well,

Speaker 2 there's not a lot of people on Earth that look like the Island Boys. No, I'm certainly looking.

Speaker 1 Maybe what was blurred out was there wasn't actually

Speaker 2 that happening. Got it.
I hope so.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 God damn it. Okay.
Good Mount Rushmore, everyone. Memes, what do you have?

Speaker 1 I showed Max a video. He just showed it.

Speaker 1 He wasn't.

Speaker 1 Stand up and show Jake.

Speaker 1 What is it?

Speaker 2 It's the Island Boys.

Speaker 2 Doing with the Island Boys?

Speaker 1 The Island Boys being bros for life.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sorry, Jake. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not good.

Speaker 2 Oh, the bosas. Oh, yeah.
You see, Bosa, I think it's Joey Bosa, is eating 5,000 calories a day.

Speaker 2 That's got to be so awesome.

Speaker 1 Wait, that doesn't seem that much.

Speaker 2 5,000 is a lot.

Speaker 1 Wasn't Phelps eating like 15?

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 2 5,000 does seem like a lot, though.

Speaker 1 I feel like when I'm eating...

Speaker 2 On a Sunday, sometimes you can eat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like I definitely eat 5,000. That's a lot.
I mean, a regular McDonald's order is like 1,500.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so you eat that four times? Three times? Three times, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can do 5,000, no problem. Ah, okay.

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Speaker 1 Let's wrap up. We got Fire Fest of the week, and then we'll send everyone on their weekend.
Henry, Daniel, Henry, Daniel, Henry, Daniel, Henry, Daniel, Henry, Henry.

Speaker 1 How do we get a billion listens?

Speaker 1 What is this?

Speaker 8 Yesterday, I played my first volleyball game in Chicago. There's a lot of very active volleyball community here in Chicago.

Speaker 8 Something I didn't know beforehand, so it's probably people that are like, wait, volleyball, Chicago?

Speaker 1 Who knew? Did you bump and set? Now you do.

Speaker 1 Side out.

Speaker 2 I'm Spike.

Speaker 8 And they rotate. I'm obviously an athlete, so I was playing well.
I was spiking. Oh, yeah?

Speaker 1 How'd you do your bowling?

Speaker 8 Well, you told me if I beat you, then you were going home. So for the sake of the stream, I let you win.

Speaker 1 By 60 or 70 pins?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Did you break 100?

Speaker 8 I did break 100.

Speaker 2 No, I mean in bowling.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 8 By golf terms, yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, he broke 100.

Speaker 1 It was 158 to 85.

Speaker 8 Yeah, again, I literally, you.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait.

Speaker 2 So you actually didn't break 100.

Speaker 1 No, he broke out. No, he tweeted out he broke 100 being like in golf terms.
Oh, I didn't realize that. He realized he had to break 100.
He should have tweeted

Speaker 1 I hit an 85. I shot it 85.
Shot 85.

Speaker 2 Shot at 85 today. There you go.

Speaker 8 Anyway, that's not what this is about. This is about me being an activist.

Speaker 1 An athlete volleyball. You do have long arms.

Speaker 2 I imagine that you'd be pretty good at volleyball.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I had one of those like jump of the net. They tried to get it over.
I spiked it back. We won the first game.
And then in the second game, they were rotating.

Speaker 1 Who are these people you're playing with?

Speaker 8 It was pretty much randoms. I brought Ben Mintz.
They were like, we need people. I was like, I'm bringing Mintz in.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 8 I knew one person on the team that I met one time. It was pretty random.
I was like, oh, this is my friend Ben Mintz.

Speaker 2 That's the greatest deleting scene from Top Gun ever.

Speaker 1 Hank and Ben Mintz who's shirtless on the piece playing volleyball.

Speaker 8 Mincy playing was as electric as you can imagine. I was playing, so I couldn't film.
Oh, his noises.

Speaker 2 I wish I had his noises. It was great.

Speaker 1 He, like, I'm guessing you guys didn't win. We did.
What?

Speaker 8 It was co-ed. It was pretty casual.

Speaker 1 I would imagine.

Speaker 8 But I get the ball. It's my turn to serve.
And I'm like, fuck. I've literally never served a volleyball in my life.

Speaker 8 Being the ambidextrious person I am, I didn't know whether I serve with my left hand, serve with my right hand.

Speaker 8 I tried to pass it off to someone else. Like, no, no, you got it.
You were sitting out the last game. I was like, all right, here we go.

Speaker 8 And I served it, and it went pretty much 90 degrees right into the other court and like hit someone else over there. And then I moved on.
Thank you.

Speaker 8 It was a tough, but it was tough. I like it.
Like, I was playing well, I was contributing, and then

Speaker 8 it was like, all right, you can serve, right? I was like, sure.

Speaker 2 You got to grind at this, Hank.

Speaker 8 I got to, yeah, I got to practice my serve. I literally have to figure out if I serve lefty or serve right.

Speaker 8 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Why not both?

Speaker 2 Can't you serve like that?

Speaker 11 I don't think so.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you got to. That's not a serve.

Speaker 1 A serve is you slap.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you slap it. I mean, I know, but I think in beach volleyball, you can hit underhand too, right?

Speaker 1 If you want.

Speaker 1 Not with two hands, though, could you?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know how that works.

Speaker 1 Volleyball is a stupid sport. No, it's fun.
Oh, no.

Speaker 2 Do you guys do beers after? Yeah. That's the best part.
Best part about any rec sports league is you know that beers are after.

Speaker 1 Volleyball is a stupid sport.

Speaker 8 I had a great time. I wanted to start a league parcel team.

Speaker 1 I'm in. You want to play? Yeah.
I like volleyball. I thought we were doing softball.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're playing softball. We can do both.
We're both sick.

Speaker 2 What if we combine them? Volleyball, but with bats.

Speaker 1 I like that. That would be fun.
That was fun. Okay, so that was your fire fest? So your fire fest was...

Speaker 8 I can't serve volleyball.

Speaker 1 Your fire fest was you were playing volleyball, and the worst thing that happened to you this week was you hit it out of bounds once.

Speaker 1 Anybody laugh at you? That's a hell of a week. That's a hell of a week.
Yeah, what do you want from me? No, I'm not. I'm saying that's a hell of a week.
You're rolling.

Speaker 2 It was a tough moment.

Speaker 1 What did she say? Those girls on the team, it was like, oh, well, this kid's not, you know,

Speaker 1 would you hit a woman?

Speaker 8 I don't even remember. I literally walked away.

Speaker 1 That's not going to hold up in defense.

Speaker 8 Like, I hit it and turned my back.

Speaker 1 Taking leave of absence from the New York Yankees.

Speaker 8 I didn't even see it hit them.

Speaker 1 Them.

Speaker 8 I don't know what they identify as.

Speaker 1 Okay, good point. Good point.
PFT.

Speaker 2 My Fire Fest is I'm going to Ireland for the weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So this is like a recurring theme with me and Donnie.

Speaker 2 Anytime we hang out outside of whatever city we happen to be in, it's usually halfway around the world, and I usually have to fly back within 36 hours. So I went to Hong Kong with him,

Speaker 2 came back like, yeah, about 40 hours later, hung over on MDMA, went to Qatar with him for the World Cup, came back about two and a half days later, hung over on Acid for the first time.

Speaker 2 And now I'm going to Ireland for Donnie's wedding, which is going to be a blast. I'm excited about it.
The Coors Light apparently tastes way better over in Ireland. It's much darker.

Speaker 2 It's almost black over there. So I'm going to be drinking a lot of that.
Get a mustache. Get a mustache from it.
I'm excited about the wedding.

Speaker 2 The trip back on Sunday morning is going to be tough, but we grind. We persevere.
Hope, what's his name? Mr. Buddhajej, I hope he's listening.
Don't fuck up the flights for me coming back.

Speaker 2 If you want part of my take, to go out to a billion people, Pete, get your shit together.

Speaker 2 And then also, for this trip, I've been planning on getting it kilt because when am I ever going to attend a formal ceremony in Ireland again?

Speaker 1 You're going to wear it to the wedding?

Speaker 2 Well, I was going to wear it to the golf on Friday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 On the golf course. That sounds fun.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, it's actually a Barsworth-sponsored event, Hank, so it's for work. But I was planning on wearing a kilt out there.
All the kilt stores in Chicago were closed. Oh, dude.

Speaker 2 So I don't have a kilt, so I need to find a place in Ireland. If you know a place in Ireland that sells kilts,

Speaker 2 let me know so I can pick one up on the way from the airport to the golf course.

Speaker 1 That's fucked up that he's playing golf on a Friday. You wouldn't.

Speaker 2 What are you doing tomorrow, Hank?

Speaker 8 I'm going home.

Speaker 1 It's not he's golfing with me. Oh, after golf.

Speaker 2 That's That's entrapment, though, big cat.

Speaker 1 You can't invite him and then be like, Hank, you play so much fucking golf, you loser. This is going to be my first round of the summer.
Well, first real round of the summer.

Speaker 8 Exactly. Now you get it.

Speaker 1 Waited all the way until August 10th. By the way, I just got clarification on the fuck you, Hank, from Brooks.
He said you didn't respond to an email. Oh, wow.
From who? Probably Liv.

Speaker 1 He said you didn't respond to an email. All right.

Speaker 8 That's valid.

Speaker 6 You're probably on the course.

Speaker 8 That's valid.

Speaker 1 All right, my Fire Fest is I have two. Well, one I want your guys to take on, if this is a good or a bad omen.

Speaker 1 My son, who's four,

Speaker 1 has been waking up in the middle of the night and coming in and waking me up, and he keeps saying that the Bears are coming to get him.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I feel like that's a good thing for the Bears season.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, that's definitely a good presentation.

Speaker 1 Kids know. They're like dogs when there's an earthquake.

Speaker 2 They know when the Bears are about to be back. Yeah,

Speaker 1 when he goes to bed, he'll look out the window, like just making sure there's no bears out there.

Speaker 2 Have you guys watched anything with bears in it recently?

Speaker 1 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I can't. Cocaine Bear? Yeah, we did watch that the other night.

Speaker 2 Okay, there you go. That's probably.

Speaker 1 Fuck, you're right. I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Cocaine bears out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't tell if that's good or bad. So I think it's good.

Speaker 2 I think it's good. It's a good.
We'll take it as a good omen until proven otherwise.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Monsters of the Midway are back. And then my other one is I broke my bed in a non-sex related thing.

Speaker 2 How'd you do it? Jumping on it?

Speaker 1 I caught a little air, and I kind of like, I was like jumping kind of on the side and boom, right to the ground.

Speaker 2 That's tough. New bed?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I am on a diet, but yeah, that was tough.

Speaker 2 That would have been, you know what?

Speaker 1 It's the lamest way you can break a bed.

Speaker 2 That's the worst time ever to break a bed is right after you start a diet. Yeah.
It's so good to do that beforehand, and then that gives you motivation. Right.
I'm so fat, I need to diet.

Speaker 2 But then when you do it after like a week of trying, then that's just demoralizing.

Speaker 1 No, if I had, well, think about it this way. God forbid I didn't die it, I probably would have gone through the floor.

Speaker 6 That's true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you saved your own life. Yes.
But yeah, that's a tough one to be like, I broke the bed

Speaker 1 because all I did was basically, it was like a half sit, half jump.

Speaker 1 Not good. Not good.
Yeah, not good. Are you responding to that email? I can't find it.

Speaker 8 I do. I do one of probably my biggest

Speaker 8 issues in life is that, and I'm sure you guys do this too, maybe not.

Speaker 1 Hitting people with a volleyball?

Speaker 8 I read things and i mentally respond but then i don't respond completely so like the second you said it i think i know what email you're talking about

Speaker 8 and i like in my head i was like this is exciting and i responded but i didn't respond happens to me and now i feel so bad constantly but now i can't even find the email but it was like i i like know what he's talking about i think

Speaker 1 constantly

Speaker 1 okay Jake?

Speaker 7 Yeah. This entire episode.
Besides every word I've said on this episode.

Speaker 1 No, you've been good, Jake.

Speaker 6 You've been good.

Speaker 7 I I had, you guys saw it, I think, on Monday. I had like five massive spider bites on my arm.
Yeah. They're pretty much gone now, but crazy.

Speaker 2 Yeah. They were huge.
So, do you know what kind of spider? Nope. Do you know where you got them? Do you have bed bugs in your ADA apartment?

Speaker 1 It was really sad seeing your little dangling band-aid with

Speaker 1 the bites underneath.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Jake is the only person I've ever seen put band-aids on a spider bite. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, I'd put Neosporin on.

Speaker 2 Of course, yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you think that there's a chance you could become Spider-Man? That would be pretty sick. right Right?

Speaker 1 yeah would you actually do anything with that or would you just be like oh yeah i guess i can save the world you would yeah with the world yeah that's what he does who where would you start saving the world wherever they need help so right now spider-man literally drops what he's doing and goes and

Speaker 1 so right now if you if you were given the opportunity to defeat nobody in the world you go to maui yeah that fire's already out wildfires yeah oh it's out yeah so what would you do just show up and be like spider-man's here sorry i'm late

Speaker 1 oh I thought this was a cool place to vacation.

Speaker 1 What does Spider-Man do now? Sorry, I'm late. It's tragic.
It's awful.

Speaker 2 I was taping a podcast, so I missed my flight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whoops. Fire's already out.
Damn. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You just bummed out all Maui.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Add that to the list of things you've destroyed today, Jay.

Speaker 1 Max, or memes, do you guys have one?

Speaker 10 Kind of.

Speaker 1 Oh, but

Speaker 1 go on.

Speaker 10 We can talk about it later.

Speaker 1 No. No.

Speaker 1 We don't get to talk about it. We We don't talk about it.

Speaker 7 We should have said no, Mac.

Speaker 1 We literally don't speak off this podcast. That's how you get to 1 billion downloads.

Speaker 10 I hope we have this audio

Speaker 10 is my Fire Fest.

Speaker 2 For this whole episode?

Speaker 10 I think we should be fine.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 1 I'm literally going to murder Stephanie. I want to murder Stephanie.

Speaker 2 I have to go to Ireland.

Speaker 10 No, I think

Speaker 10 it'll be backed up on our videos.

Speaker 1 It hasn't eaten all day.

Speaker 10 It'll be backed up on the video portion of it.

Speaker 1 So, will the audio be good?

Speaker 10 I think.

Speaker 1 Where'd it go?

Speaker 1 There was an error in audition.

Speaker 1 Seven also doesn't talk into mics. He fucks shit up and he doesn't talk.

Speaker 7 He's a very hard-working behind-the-scenes guy.

Speaker 1 Not this week.

Speaker 1 He went to Bruce Springsteen the other night.

Speaker 2 He's not in a truck right now, Jake. You don't have to have his back.

Speaker 2 We should make you guys do the show from a truck if this is all lost.

Speaker 1 So this might not.

Speaker 10 I think it'll be fine. It'll be fine.

Speaker 2 You know the amount of gold we put out on this?

Speaker 1 This actually was a great episode. Like this was a very funny episode.

Speaker 2 The Island Boys.

Speaker 2 If Jake's reaction to the Island Boys is lost.

Speaker 1 It'll be good. It'll be good.

Speaker 2 This is Max. No, no, it's fine.

Speaker 1 It's fine. It's fine.

Speaker 2 Oh, other Firefests, while we kill a little bit of time, I'm probably getting a parking ticket right now because for whatever reason, one of the several hundred apps that I had to download recently, the parking app here in Chicago wasn't working.

Speaker 2 So I'm probably going to walk. Mine's working right now.
Mine wasn't working. Just go old school.

Speaker 1 Pay out the card.

Speaker 2 I don't think you can.

Speaker 1 No, you can just re-up on a parking spot.

Speaker 2 No, I couldn't even put the, I couldn't even initiate it

Speaker 2 for it. No, I'm telling you the entire thing.
I used the app. The app said cannot work with this.
Oh. It doesn't work right now.

Speaker 1 It can't work with you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I don't know.

Speaker 2 At that point, after I tried it three times, I was like, I'll put a different card, see if that one, if that's the issue.

Speaker 1 The app literally went Mike Singletary on your ass. Yeah.
Can't win with it. Can't work with it.
The app called me a loser.

Speaker 2 So I'm probably going to go out and have like a $100 parking ticket.

Speaker 1 Shit.

Speaker 2 It's all right. Okay.
Let's write off to Penn. They'll take care of it.
All right.

Speaker 1 Let's do.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 Did someone say shit? No, I did. Oh.

Speaker 1 I thought I'm nervous right now.

Speaker 2 I was doing a bit that I forgot that we don't work for Penn anymore.

Speaker 1 I'm hyper-nervous right now of what's going on. Yeah, we're going to do it.
Anytime Stephan walks, he is the fucking Grim Reaper. It's a little too quiet.

Speaker 1 He walks in and he's like, it's not a problem.

Speaker 2 Whenever Max is too focused on something related to his job, you know that something's wrong.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Numbers.

Speaker 7 18.

Speaker 1 Three. I'm going to go 33.
I'll go 69. Memes, you ever gotten this? No.

Speaker 1 20.

Speaker 1 One.

Speaker 1 Memes is one.

Speaker 1 Stefan, give a number, and if it hits that number, we all get to beat you up.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 2 22. All right.

Speaker 1 41.

Speaker 11 Saved your life.

Speaker 1 All right. See you on Monday.
Love you guys. Fish don't know what fighters or six.

Speaker 1 I'm the one to say I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's a market.

Speaker 1 I won't say it's bumpy, so let's wait.

Speaker 1 Slowly learning life is okay.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 know

Speaker 1 things I can say

Speaker 1 little I thought. Just a way that we're breathing away.

Speaker 1 There are all the things I've got to remember.

Speaker 1 I'll make

Speaker 1 you

Speaker 1 think

Speaker 1 here.