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Today is Friday, August 11th.

And I'm starting to think that Phil Mickelson might be a little bit of a gambler.

He bet a billion dollars.

So that's tough to do.

That's total.

That's $1 for every download part of my take is that.

Oh, yeah, seriously.

We don't like to pat ourselves on the back, we might as well that is a wild stat gaz uh who's you know probably he's actually in charge of all barstool well we should give him credit for this because gad gaz did pick us up off the scrap heap he invented part of my take and he actually writes every episode he does writing what i'm saying right now so apparently he he tweeted out that according to pod track there have been 10 podcasts in the history of podcasting that have reached a billion downloads and you're listening to one of them that's pretty fucking wild when i saw that stat i was like man take a second holy shit thank god we got everyone in china to listen to pardon my take it is it's very very insane we do have to go after the indian audience too if we really want to make those numbers explode sash and tendal car best cricket player of all time uh not mine well who's who'd you go the other one jiminy yep uh so it is it is like humbling to to think that there's a billion people that have downloaded this um but i just like to take the opportunity to tell the college radio station that fired me to suck my dick yeah there we go but yeah seriously we've gotten a little sappy a couple times in the last couple of months but we'll get sappy again that is a mind-blowing mind-blowing stat so thank you to everyone who uh supports us best fans in the world best fans of the world we we i told this story last week but remember when we were driving to detroit and we're like what if part of my take hadn't worked how much would that have sucked it would have sucked big time our lives would have sucked also the way that they phrase that list one of ten that means that we're the tenth that means that we're we have over nine mlk yeah it's just crossed a billion yeah it's exactly the that's fine yeah that's fine i mean joe rogan is like that's the craziest part about Joe Rogan is like, we are a very big podcast and Joe Rogan dwarfs us. He's probably got 10 billion.
Yes. Yes.
So thank you to all the AWS. And it's just Billy downloading his episode a thousand times a day.
It's crazy. We got to 1 billion without even hitting our 500th episode.
That is wild. Yeah.
And if you break it down by the number of shows fastest fastest, yeah, we're a fucking rocket ship. We're fastest to a billion.
I can't wait till we get to 1,000 episodes. No, 500.
No, but I mean, like, imagine us if we're double. We haven't even gotten to 500.
Wait, let me look this up. I'm pretty sure.
This is our 500th episode today. Is this it or is it Monday? I think it's today.
Okay. All right.
Congratulations, guys. I'm pretty sure viewing the back end, I think 1,000 passed.
Jake, come on. Why are you going to ruin the bit? I know it's a bit, but like.
Okay. Yeah, no, it's okay.
Jake, what did you think about Phil Mickelson betting a billion dollars? I have a take. I don't think that that's as crazy.
It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money.
Okay. But that's not wins and losses.
That's money gamble. Right.
So if you break it down by the numbers, if we dive into Phil's gambling career, he's lost, I think, $100 million. Right.
That's a lot. That's a lot.
I'm going to say that Phil Mickelson is a pretty good gambler. He's a pretty good gambler.
He's only lost 10%. I was just thinking about it.
I did float this as a little trial balloon this morning in my house. I told my wife, I was like, do you see Phil Mickelson has gambled a billion dollars? A little perspective.
Like, man, that's crazy. Yeah.
And she was like, how much have you? And I was like, oh, I got to go. Yeah.
So I was thinking about it. I do think that it's an eye-poppingping number it also goes back to my belief that anyone who is a gambler save how much you have gambled and just wait for the book because it is an all time Charles Barkley I think did this as well where it's like if you're writing a book just throw out a big number of how much money you've gambled and you will get people to buy your book it's actually a's actually pretty good way to do it so it's from gamblers secrets from a life of risk it's billy walters yeah billy walters professional gambler they list him as being like the best gambler of all time is that true yeah because i feel like a lot of smokers call them yeah that's true he went 70 nfl last year uh the the craziest part wasn't the one billion i mean one billion is a lot of money to bet on anything I don't care if you spread it out Over the course of your entire life The craziest part was that Phil tried to call in a bet On the 2012 Ryder Cup From Medina, which Hank and I have played before Yeah, a couple times Yeah, it was great, Hank's played multiple times They know Hank on the first team A couple bunch? A couple.
A bunch of times. He tried to bet on the 2012 Ryder Cup while he was playing in it.
He called in the bet from the golf course trying to put in, it was a six-figure bet, $400,000 for the U.S. team to win, which they ended up losing.
So they just collapsed the Ryder Cup history. They actually didn't take his action on that.
So, well, that book didn't take it. Who knows if Phil called his second guy and tried to put the bet in.
Oh, he definitely got that bet in. Listen, he got that bet in.
He's got a Rolodex. He got that bet in.
Yeah, he gambled so much that it wouldn't be surprising if Phil, like, gets in bed with the Saudis and tries to have them bankroll. I don't think Phil would do that.
So, if I know anything about Phil, yes, he does love to gamble, but he loves his legacy and he loves the tradition of the PGA Tour. Yeah.
I couldn't see him turning his back on that. Also, the biggest lie is Phil said that he hasn't gambled in like six years.
Did you see that tweet the other day? Which six years were those? Yeah, I mean zero to six. Yeah, it's – I still though, a billion sounds like a lot, but I was doing the numbers in my head.
And like, if you're betting, I bet 20 college football games and then 10 NFL games. Just actual bets placed on a weekend is a lot of money.
I imagine that Phil is also stepping up his bankroll after he wins a tournament. Yes.
The units definitely change for a little bit. Phil has a secret bank account that his wife does not know about definitely the um the best two lines though from the piece that the books coming out maybe we should try to get Billy Walters on the show

uh he was in jail I would assume he's out of jail why for for being too good at gambling

yes he's being too good at gambling uh he said uh uh Phil's a big-time gambler and big-time

gamblers make big bets I kind of want to get that as like one of your so true things in my house. That's just a great shirt.
This is the house. You walk in my house, the mat.
This is the house of a big-time gambler, and big-time gamblers make big-time bets. Right below the live, laugh, love.
Oh, by the way, I got a live, laugh, love to complete my wall. Nice.
No, it's not nice no it's not nice they sent me live love love oh there's no laughing there they're trying to send you a message they're trying to be like yo be funnier yeah either that or it's just like i maybe just more love yeah i think they're telling you you gotta love more i gotta love more you gotta love hard from the universe but yeah it's uh big time gamblers make big time i just love that like i i might if i lose if the bears lose the commanders i might have that be my tattoo imagine going into the casino and you're wearing that shirt and you go up to the sports book and you put like 20 bucks yeah big time gamblers make big time bets the other one that hurt and this is hurtful for phil i know like him reading this he probably doesn't give a fuck about the 1 billion number he likes the quote big time gamblers make big time bets but uh the fact that Billy Walters started placing bets for Phil and then his accounts got shut down because they're like you these are clearly not you it's not reckless anymore yeah that hurts they're basically like you are a dumb better why are you only taking sharp games and only playing like three games a weekend that that had to that that sucks to see in print yeah i mean if this is the worst thing that phil will ever do in his life then that's a life well lived yeah honestly we should all aspire to have enough money where we can end up losing a hundred million dollars yeah and still be a multi multi hundred millionaire big-time gamblers make big-time bets yeah it's like just a fact basically phil mickelson is mr beast with a gambling addiction so he's like i'm gonna bet and lose a lot of money but that's my personality my competitive spirit is going to ensure that i end up making three times as much money as i give away what would have been a worse headline one bill phil mickelson bets one dollars or Phil Mickelson bets a hundred thousand dollars in his life he was just only doing five dollar parlay cards way worse he's a big-time gambler who makes me big-time bets big-time bets I am really that phrase is just going to be ringing in my head big ticket like as I as I put in a bet yeah like you know what yeah you time bets. Come on.
Pop yourself up. So Walters also said that Phil Mickelson, one of the most famous people in the world and a man I once considered a friend embrace debate is Phil Mickelson.
One of the most famous people in the world at one point. Uh, Ooh, no camp.
He's in the top 1% of the 1%. Yeah, but similar to a Joe Rogan part of my take, Tiger Woods is whatever it is, a million X, Phil, in terms of celebrity and recognizability? I think maybe inside of a casino, Phil Mickelson might be one of the most recognizable.
The fact that he's a lefty.

Anytime anyone's making big-time bets, Phil Mickelson is at least the most famous person.

Mickelson gets his wings.

Oh, I know.

That makes him more famous.

I mean, golf is pretty big in Europe.

So he's up there.

But I wouldn't say that if Phil Mickelson was walking down the street, do you think he would get stopped endlessly?

I don't think endlessly.

Where?

New York City, Chicago, LA.

I think in a big city he probably would um depends on how big his sunglasses were at the time true they've gotten bigger over the years yeah i guess well i see these are always hard to judge like this actually goes back to our conference realignment uh talk on monday when we were saying uh we'll still watch someone did point out like we are 0.0001 of football watchers not to brag but it's just a fact so like us saying we would still watch of course we'd still watch we watch all football so phil like i i would obviously recognize phil because you know i love sports and in any diehard sports fan, but like the regular people, I would recognize Phil's man boobs anywhere. He kind of lost him recently, but it was like him and Jim Schwartz that had the most recognizable man nipples out there.
But he's, he, he does kind of his body transforms. Every time Phil shows up to a tournament, the first picture of Phil approaching the media always goes viral.
And everyone's like, Holy at phil he looks so different he looks awesome yeah or bad who gets recognized more walking down the street in new york city livy dunn or phil i mean isn't she like isn't her demographic like college campuses i think it's every campus i mean i'm not in a college campus i'm a fan i personally don't know what she looks like i do you're the worst demographic for anything though yeah yeah i don't know you can't be in this conversation yeah i honestly don't think i would recognize liby done you wouldn't recognize baby gronk oh that's her yeah if baby gronk was staying next to her i'd be like that must be living what about what if baby digs was oh yeah him well he baby digs wouldn wouldn't be standing next to her. Baby Diggs would break her ankles, catching a ball over her.
I would never randomly run into Baby Diggs because whenever I'm in the same city, I got to tap in. Yeah.
Out of respect. Well, I'd never run into Baby Diggs because he'd be running past me.
I love Baby Diggs. Can't defend him.
Yeah, jamming Baby Diggs at the line. Good luck.
No chance. Okay.
So, not a ton going on. Obviously, first preseason games for a bunch of teams tonight uh let's knock on wood collectively for no injuries no injuries no injuries um but let's do some headline reading because uh we are still in august i'll just i'll rip through them you guys give me your thoughts texas beats out lsu miami for number one d end in 2024 uh I just don't want to know what year he was born in.

Okay.

Because it's probably like 2000.

He must be from Texas.

Colin Simmons.

Colin Simmons will be playing in Austin.

He is the number one recruit.

Yes.

He is.

He's from Texas.

It's crazy to think that if you had a little oops mistake while you were in college, your kids right now would be entering NCAA football. That is true.
Yeah, they would definitely be entering. That's scary.
It's a double A football. My kids, maybe not yours.
Yeah, no. Colin Simmons was born.
He is. Why can't I find his birthday anyway?

He must be what?

It must be 2006.

That sucks.

Damn.

That sucks.

That is brutal.

That is brutal.

Yeah.

Duncanville, Texas.

Duncanville, Texas.

Colin Simmons.

Man, that does suck a lot.

I was thinking about it.

They were showing the ages of NFL coaches.

And we're still holding on pretty well.

Thank you. man that does suck a lot i was thinking about it they were showing the ages of nfl coaches and we're still holding on pretty well because you know i think mcveigh is younger than us um floor is around the same age yeah a couple of the couple of the new guys might be younger than us but that will suck when we get to a few more years down the line and then they list all the coaches and there's like a third well when mcveigh was talking about retiring if he had actually retired from coaching football that would have made me feel super old yes that we we we did we podcasted for his entire career as head coach yep uh okay next headline titans williams lauds vrabel for head coach opportunity for hc opportunity Okay, So I think he's their defensive coordinator.

Terrell Williams.

Oh,

he's coaching.

He's coaching the preseason.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So variable is letting him wear the headset,

call the plays,

that sort of thing.

I like that.

Giving him an opportunity.

Yep.

That's cool.

It's also a good opportunity to bet against the Titans.

Yeah.

Rookie head coach.

Yeah.

Rookie head coach.

The rookiest of head coaches

uh book phil bet over one billion dollars tried wider cup wager big time bets uh dutch star rips

u.s women's national team for big mouse at women's world cup now this is but this is also like you

saw the takes for four days then you tried to hop on the take train it's already left the station

yeah so when when the dutch they said big mouth big mouth that sounds like fat phobic to me it

How's it going? You saw the takes for four days, then you tried to hop on the take train. It's already left the station.
Yeah, so when the Dutch, they said big mouth? Big mouth. That sounds like fat phobic to me.
It sounds like they're calling us fat Americans. Yeah, or a fish you'd like to catch.
Yeah, big mouth, big mouth. I caught a big mouth American.
So we didn't really talk that much about the Women's World Cup. I just want to say that I've reached the point now.
I didn't jinx them. I just said said I like watching the women play I think that they're more fun to watch than men sometimes because they usually win this team sucked I don't I've reached a point now where I don't necessarily blame Megan Rapinoe I blame the coach for even putting her on the roster that's how bad she was I also it does I'm not going to defend them because they did suck.
It would be very easy to defend them. Yeah, very easy.

Vietnam basically did. Yeah, but they are a little bit of a victim of their own success

where if you win multiple World Cups and dominate,

everyone expects if you don't win that you're a failure.

Yeah, they need to start sucking like the men

and then get to the second round and everyone's happy.

You know what they need is they need a FIBA loss third place finish. Remember the the year that we finished third I think yeah we need to put together the redeem team that was the reset because for a while it was basically well the dream team always wins the Olympics that was the Olympics yeah that was the Olympics so we need to get LeBron James to play women's soccer yes okay yeah and lose uh but yeah that was a reset where then it became like, oh, okay.
Now the next time they win. Let's get Coach K in here and start winning.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Coach K. That's exactly what happened.
Yeah, let's get Coach K in there and he'll never give up the job. Even though every other Olympic coach in the history of the Olympics did not sit on the job like he did.
Have we lost since? Is he still a coach? So he could be like, oh, Plumlee, you want to FaceTime LeBron and come to Duke? Is he still the coach? Of where? USA. Probably.
No. So he gave it up.
Probably going to try to be. Shadow coach.
Yeah. Well, he retired.
Yeah. He retired.
AKA giving it up. Colts to start Richardson in preseason opener.
Smart move. I'm going to make a lot of knee-jerk decisions off that.
Yeah. I like it.
I like it. He's got all the tools.
I quarter i think he's playing he's got all the tools that is that tape is going to basically decide uh anthony richardson's fate in my eyes yeah if he if he throws one touchdown pass i'm in yeah or one cool like uh stiff arm or long run i'm all the way in uh fountas exits dc united after racism allegations next sources Cal Stanford to ACC hits roadblocks. Okay.
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the, Fountas exits DC United after racism allegations Next sources Cal Stanford to ACC hits roadblocks Okay so wait wait the Fountas one I actually read about that Okay The guy's name is Taxi His first name is Taxi Taxi Fountas Taxi Fountas Great name And the organization said we don't tolerate any misogynistic language So I guess I don't know what that means. Like, why would he use misogynistic language on one of his teammates if his teammate is a male? Called them bitches? Yeah, probably called them a bitch.
Called them bitches? If you can't call your teammate a bitch in practice, I think I'm done with sports. Yeah, administrative leave.
Yeah, there's no place for that taxi can't believe you did it uh sources calis stanford to acc hits roadblocks no duh yeah what's the roadblock uh route 66 yeah acc is like they just showed up like we got to do something yeah they cal stanford they should call themselves the ocean conference if they make this happen so it's going to be they're going for some of the west coast teams and they're also going for SMU. They should call themselves the Ocean Conference if they make this happen.
So it's going to be – they're going for some of the West Coast teams, and they're also going for SMU. They should make them do the Ocean Conference? Fly the opposite way.
Fly the opposite way. Yeah, fly the opposite way around the world.
I like that. That would be cool just to watch the graphic.
Yeah, just have colleges that exist on airplanes. Miles traveled for the Cal football team this year is like 400,000.

Yeah, I could see Commissioner just organizing that conference so that he could funnel the frequent flyer miles to his personal account.

That's smart.

That's actually really smart.

Status.

And then last one, sources.

Byron agrees to $110 million deal for Kane.

Patrick?

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Harry.

Oh, Harry Kane.

Harry is no longer a Tottenham? He's tapping merchant is what he is oh no he's got to decide he's got to decide whether to leave or not okay cool and that was headline that was headline we got one more thing that somehow isn't on the top page anymore hold on Maxis team through no no that was headline come on yeah yeah jake's pitching a perfect game right now in terms of ruining bits i might leave sorry jake no we need you your presence is great because your presence is basically the dudes that tweet us yeah correcting us constantly and being like yeah how did you not know like they probably are tweeting Hank right now being like dude how did you not know? Like they probably are tweeting Hank right now being like, dude, how did you not know they fly orcas? They don't. Yeah, they do.
Yeah. Yeah.
And Tokita is going to be free as fuck. No, there is one more headline.
It is the topic of ESPN five trades that should happen before the NFL season starts and why they benefit both sides. Okay.
Oh yeah, that is is. Barstool for ESPN.
Done. Penn management gets A-plus for that trade.
Yes. All A-pluses.
Everyone wins. Which team could use Chase Young? I actually, I do think that Chase Young would be a good person to trade for the Commanders.
I'd take him. I feel like he's right now, he's going to be a free agent, so is Montez Sweat.
I'd rather have Montez Sweat And then whatever we can get for Chase Young right now Okay I can't log into my continue reading of ESPN So just read the first paragraph That's what I usually read But I have ESPN Okay here we go Buccaneers trade for Trey Lance Okay For a second round pick and a third round pick Why would That doesn't seem like anybody wins Oh I'm in, I'm in. I'm in.
I'm in too. Yeah, I don't...
I give that a no win. That makes no sense.
That's a zero winner. That one is not one that needs to be done.
Ravens trade for Chase Young for a third round pick, fifth round pick. Jets trade for Mike Evans.
Holy shit. That would be awesome.
It would. Yeah.
Because you guys would lose your in-Rodgers bet. Mike Evans made quite the surprise appearance in the Johnny Manziel documentary.
I have to watch it still. Monday, we're going to do the review.
It's good. Everyone's tweeting the spoiler of how it ended, though.
I've seen it like 10 times. Well, it's life.
It's life, Jake. Oh.
No. We know what Johnny Manziel.
No, how's the documentary ended. Oh, okay.
Don't say it. I'm not going to.
I'm just saying. Johnny Manziel doesn't continue playing NFL football.

No spoilers.

Okay.

Was I close?

Yeah, I think you were.

Johnny Menzel.

Was there an after credit scene I didn't see?

Still partying.

I haven't watched it yet.

Living in Scottsdale.

Johnny Menzel hanging out?

Playing golf?

No.

Johnny Menzel signing. I don't know.
We won't spoil it. Memorabilia memorabilia stuff no spoil it and then we'll bleep it everyone was tweeting about a lot how a lot of it is about how he like had alcohol issues and ended with him drinking a beer yeah it's true well he lives in scottsdale that's not a spoiler i thought no he has.
You thought he was sober?

No.

I don't know.

The whole documentary is him loving beer.

And then he's doing the thing he loves at the end.

The documentary also starts.

I didn't watch it yet.

It starts with him drinking a beer, too.

No, I didn't watch it yet. You thought that was a spoiler?

Yeah.

Him drinking a beer?

Just how the documentary ends.

I'm just going to shut up the rest of this episode.

I don't know what's going on. Right now, Jake's pitching a no-bitter.
I just need to lose my mic. Oh, stop, Jake.
Don't be hard on yourself. We love you.
Yeah, we love you, Jake. Jaguars should trade for offensive lineman Patrick McCurry.
Sure, yeah. Okay, Jaguars should get the offensive lineman from the Ravens.
Titans should trade for Hunter hunter rinfro oh i could see that yeah fill the fill the eric decker role out there i wonder if the raiders will have like a fire sale at some point because they do have good players well they have dudes three years from now they might be adding a guy that might be getting out of prison it's true henry rugs yeah they're rebuilding they're like the They're targeting 2026. I don't know.
I don't understand how you can kill someone drunk driving and only have three years of jail. That makes no sense to me.
That is that feels I'm all for second chances, but that's you ended someone's life. Yeah, he it was a huge fuck up.
I do. I don't think it's a fuck up.
I think it's just you killed someone. Yeah, you killed some, which is a huge fuck up.
Yeah, no, but a fuck up is like, whoops, he didn't intentionally. I hit you on the head by accident.
He didn't intentionally kill somebody. He did make an egregious mistake.
Actually, a series of egregious mistakes. But yeah, it does seem like three years is not like, imagine if you were that woman's like parent or her daughter or her brother or sister.
or sister. That doesn't seem like the punishment fits the crime.
Right. And that's it.
Those are the trades. Those are the win-win trades.
That's it. All right.
So should we get to our interview? No. Why? Because this is ridiculous.
What happened? Oh, you want to talk about how Devante Smith mispracticed to go out there? Yeah, which is, I guess, if you're going to be with somebody, be with them after worse times, like Derek Carr. Okay, so go ahead.
Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Michael Lorenzen throws. Who you didn't care about.
That's not true. Oh.
I never said that. Memes find the clip.
I never said that. When I said Phill's got Michael Lorenzen, you said, sure.
Yeah, sure. He's pitching great.
17 innings, two runs. Okay.
So what did he do? I think I should have pulled him. Michael Lorenzen pitched 124 pitches, nine inning no hitter yesterday for the Philadelphia Phillies.
That seems like they're malpracticed by their pitching staff. They only left them in the game because he had a no hitter.

If you look at his,

he basically did the Josh Hamilton to himself.

He's not going to be the same pitcher after this.

Wrong.

He was throwing 95 in the ninth.

Adrenaline was pumping.

They kept showing his mom and his mom was at the game,

bawling,

crying in the ninth inning.

It was one of those,

like,

how can you not be romantic about baseball moments? Really? Oh i was not romantic i watched i tuned in i mean you tuned in for for disgusting reasons max what do you mean what do you mean i tuned in for disgusting disgusting reasons because i wanted him to get pulled yeah you wanted to get should have pulled so no they shouldn't they won the game the full full game nine innings complete game nonings, complete game, no hitter. How it's supposed to be done.
How baseball is supposed to be played. From your balls.
From your balls. So, Max, how romantic did you get with it? I don't know.
I watched it. You said how romantic can you be.
Yeah. How romantic can you be? No, it's like the line.
Right, but we're asking you now,

how romantic can you be?

Are you asking me if I jerked off to them winning the game?

I didn't say that.

Why would we say that?

Did you?

No, I didn't.

Is that what you're jerking off?

You're jerking off romantic?

Yeah.

No.

Good point, Dan.

Actually, Max, if the Phillies win the World Series,

you should have to go back and watch this game film

and just jack off while you watch it.

On stream.

The most romantic game of the season.

I know.

It was a great game.

It was a beautiful thing to watch.

Are we saying set again?

Set is we got to get back to play,

or at least closer to playoffs for sets.

So two things.

One, he pitched the game in Vans, which was awesome.

Awesome. That was cool.
Vans. Do the Cleats go to the Hall of Fame I have no idea I don't know I've always wondered about that The Hall of Fame I think they just take shit And just throw it out back Yeah something Something goes to the Hall of Fame Whether it be football or baseball Like every single day Yeah They must have just an abundance of shit That nobody cares about anymore i think what they do is they do the like like weekly or monthly up in front in the glass case like look at michael lorenz and vans and then after the next no hitter like for fuck it yeah so this actually maybe these vans no hitters take the spot of uh the four or five pairs of shoes that the astros put in the hall of fame when they no-hit the Phillies.
What, do they have like 20 pairs of cleats in there? Well, yes, you're a no-hitter. No.
And you agree that they're in the Hall of Fame. No, it's bullshit.
In a World Series game. I mean, I can't get out of bed for a no-hitter that takes place in August.
Jake, did you see the wild stat? Yeah, I was just going to say it. Unbelievable wild stat.
Four pitchers and four pitchers only have played in the majors after attending Fullerton Union High School in Fullerton, California. And now all four, including Michael Lorenzen, have thrown an MLB no-hitter.
So who is it? Steve Busby from 1972 to 1980. Walter Johnson, a Hall of Famer who played from 1907 to 27.
We know Walter Johnson. Michael Lorenzen and then Mike Warren in the 80s.
Wow. That's pretty crazy.
I mean, that's a lot. That is really wild.
Wait, high schools existed in like 1890? 1907. Yeah, but he probably went to high school.
What years did he go to high school? I don't know. This is their MLB.
In the 1800s? Probably, yeah. This guy went to high school? Yeah, I guess so.
He just went to like the mines. He went to war.
He's a Hall of Famer. He went to the Civil War for school.
Get to work, kid. Okay, well, I'm happy for you, Max.
Thank you. I don't think you are.
Well, celebrating a no-hitter in the regular season. Like, who would do that? Yeah, Domingo Harmon threw a perfect game.
I didn't celebrate. And he's your favorite Yankee.
He is your favorite Yankee. No, he's not.
Yeah, he is. No, he's not.
We saw you with... you have Domingo Harmon jersey that we've seen you wear.
Just don't leak it. Also.
There we go. Jake's it on a bit.
Could you imagine if it was Cubs-Philly's wild card round? Imagine that. I can.
Yes, it's possible. It's very possible.
Max and Hank, week one. It would be very fun.
It would be played. Well, no.
It would be because it's yes it's it's possible it's very possible Max and Hank we will week one it would be very fun it would be played well no it would be because it's the they play it all one place right yeah I think the Cubs are a few games behind not really they're only three three back wow they're a half they're a half back of the last spot and the Phillies are two and a half up actually Actually, I don't know. The wild card math screws me up.
It really is confusing. It's hard to figure out.
I know that it says plus two and a half for the Phillies in the wild card first spot, and then the Cubs are a half out. So that would be three.
But they would need to get to second place. I don't know.
Okay. All right.
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We're taping it during Grit Week,

so we don't always ask the first question

what grit means to everyone that we taped this week,

but I feel like I have to ask you

because you seem like a gritty guy.

So what does grit mean to you?

I would say for me, grit, shoot,

scratchy, clawy um works hard um i feel like someone that relentless yeah um i feel like those are the words that describe grit for me uh obviously the word grit in itself is a great word like just gritty but i would say relentless tough um like i said works hard scratching incline, things like that. It is a great word.
I never really thought about it, but, yeah, grit, it just seems like a tough word. And you were the last person on the practice field today.
Was I? I didn't see it. I think so, yeah.
Will you just stay out there? Just if somebody else is out there working, you're like, okay, I'm going to wait. I'll do my work and then I'll bounce.
So 202 balls is balls is what you catch after every practice correct do you catch all of them uh for the most part yeah i'll have maybe one drop something one or two drops but uh for the most part try to catch all of them yeah you have to do 202 in a row like start over if you drop it you think so that's right i personally do 203 but i'll do 202 is pretty good too i'll do that i'll do 204 just because you said that now i'm or five well then i'm not gonna tell what i'm doing this is not the cold war just more than you yeah uh wait so how did 202 come about so i was um i live in southern california i grew up in southern california growing up as a kid and the seven on seven circuit is huge there um you know seven on seven football you have the regular season where you know pads whatever then off season everyone's doing seven on seven you got these big tournaments and whatever so when I was growing up I had two regular season where, you know, pads, whatever. Then off season, everyone's doing seven on seven.
You got these big tournaments and whatever. So when I was growing up, I had two older brothers.
We all, you know, did all everything together. And we were at this one seven on seven thing.
There was a kid. He was out there catching everything.
My dad went up to his dad. He's like, you know, what do you guys do to have such good hands? And the father told my dad, you know, we have a jugs machine.
We catch 200 balls a day. So my dad being the guy he is, he went online, got a jugs machine.
I remember the first day it came in, I was like, shoot, we finally got a jugs machine. Like, this is crazy.
You can shoot balls. You don't have to throw it because we used to just throw balls to each other.
And then we're like, he told us we got to catch 202 because Buddy over there was catching 200. Why not 201? Just, I don't know, two extra.
Yeah, two extra extra two just sounds better yeah it actually does sound better yeah it's one or two to 201 and i know that you've you know i've seen an interview with you where you list every receiver that was taken before in the draft i'm not going to ask you to list all the receivers but i know that you were mad on draft you were mad on the first couple days of the draft you didn't get picked which i i respect i understand that because you feel like you were you were better than a lot of the guys that got picked. But also at the same time, the Lions passed on you a couple times too.
So do you kind of hate the Lions a little bit? You know, one of my best friends brought that up. He's like, you know the Lions passed on you too.
I was like, I mean, I understand that. But at the end of the day, they still picked me.
So they passed on me, but they still picked me. It could have been anyone else, but the Lions were still the team that chose me.
So, I mean, yeah, I could be mad at them for not picking me, bad then they still picked me. So they passed me, but they still picked me.
It could have been anyone else, but the Lions are still the team that chose me. So I mean, yeah, I could be mad at them for not picking me, but then they still picked me.
So it's like me picking a team in middle school. You go, you have two captains, you pick guys.
If I picked you, I still picked you. I might have picked you later, but you're still on my team.
That's a good point because believe it or not, I know I look like an athlete right now, but back in the day I was a little frumpier, a little less athletic. And I would always love it if I was like the second to last person pick.
I'd be like, yeah, that's my guy. Yeah, that's right.
You saved me. Ride or die.
Yeah. So I am going to have you list all 16.
Okay, you ready? Yeah. You got to count with me, though.
Yeah, because this is crazy. The fact that there's 16 and you memorize it, like Tom Brady does that was a Brady 7, that's that's it doesn't brady have six that he lists before that were drafted for i'm not sure 16 is a ridiculous number yeah but yeah let's go you ready yeah jamar chase lsu that was a good pick yeah it was a great pick devontae smith alabama jaylen waddle alabama um cadarious tony florida Rashad Bateman, Minnesota, Elijah Moore Elijah Moore Ole Miss Rondell Moore Purdue Tutu Iowa Louisville Dwayne Eskridge Western Michigan Terrace Marshall LSU Amari Rogers Clemson Nico Collins Michigan Anthony Schwartz Auburn Deami Brown UNC Josh Palmer Tennessee Des Fitzpatrick Louisville Armand Ross St.
Brown USC Wow And you just I mean I love it Wherever you find motivation right? Like you look at that every day? Yeah I have it written down in my notebook Every day before I go out to practice I have my goals written down At the top What I want to do this year And then I got You know I got got round four pick 112 never forget then i got all the receivers one through 16 with their name and where they went to college and i read it every day that's that's gotta be that's gonna suck to be one of those middle guys like rashad bateman's like dude my fault like why why do you keep why you keep saying my name every day do a redraft right now so if you were to if you were to, as a GM on your big board, where would you take yourself? I'm going first. Yeah? I'd be a fool.
Jamar Chase is pretty good. He is.
Jamar Chase is pretty good. But I'm still picking myself every time.
I mean, all the receivers will tell you that. Okay.
So Jamar Chase is listening to this interview right now and he's going to be like the people that would be picked before me according to Amon Ross St. Brown.
Amon Ross St. Brown, USC.
Correct. Yeah.

Okay.

You'd be a fool not to say yourself.

That's true.

I would pick myself after Jamar Chase.

Okay.

Personally, I think he might be a little bit better than me. Right.

But yeah, probably after Devontae as well, then somewhere third maybe.

What's this podcast called again?

Part of my take.

So you guys, what other podcasts are with you guys, like competing with you guys? There's none. There's none? No.
So you guys are one? We've put them all at once. So you're putting yourself first? Yeah.
Correct. Just like me.
No, Joe Rogan's probably ahead of us. Okay.
That's fine. Yeah.
Maybe. Joe Rogan, yeah.
Call her daddy. They're pretty good.
Are you in daddy gang? No, none of that. What podcast do you listen to? I don't really listen to many podcasts i'm gonna be honest um i will say though the drake with that that bobby girl yeah i don't watch podcasts but my buddy came over and he put it on the screen i'm like but what are you watching it's like just drake i don't really see a lot of drake interviews so i'm i like drake and i'm looking at i'm like i like her i like the way she's interviewing it's different she's in bed like I've never seen a podcast with someone in bed with some drinks on the side,

and she's just talking to him like he's a regular dude,

talking about why do you follow so many people?

Just the question she was asking.

I think she's tough.

You want us to do an interview like that?

I don't think you can pull it off like her.

We can get some pillows in here.

What was it like growing up in France?

I didn't grow up in France.

Okay.

That's the kind of stuff she has.

And then they just go off on a tangent about that. She's good, though in French immersion though.
Yeah, I was, I was in a French immersion school too when I was growing up and I not, but you remember it. I don't remember any of it.
I forgot a lot of French. Um, but like someone speaking, I can understand it.
Um, but I haven't spoken in so long that if you don't speak a language for so long, you kind of forget it. So French is a language that I feel like if I went back to France for about two or three weeks, I'll pick it up like that.
You listen to it and you can understand when you listen to people say it, but if you ask me to say anything, it's like, no, I can't. It's a little different.
I can't do that at all. It's kind of messed up that they probably made you learn what, like math and science and French? Yeah, we're doing everything.
I mean, math was in French. Like you said, science, history, everything.
Then you had one hour of English. So the English teacher would come in.
You do English, whatever, grammar and English. And then the rest is all French.
You go to recess. Everyone's speaking French.
It's crazy. Did you get in trouble if you spoke English at recess? Not really.
I mean, the kids would probably speak French to each other. I mean, English to each other if you wanted.
But if you're trying to get like, I want a snack. Where's the bathroom? This, that.
And you're talking to like an elderly. You got to speak yeah um we got to talk about your dad john brown mr universe 1980 and 81 yeah something like that i don't know yeah so what was it like growing up uh you know we all grew up like with the joke like my dad could beat up your dad but you actually could say that to literally everyone like your dad could beat up everyone right right what was it like like having a guy like that pushing you training you because we saw hard knocks like he's still doing that yeah it was um for me it was normal i would say growing up that was just the kind of house that i was in i was speaking german with my mom boom i'm doing all that speaking english to my dad flip-flopping between sentences if she's talking to me he's talking to me i going to a French school.
My dad's working out after school. We're doing all these sports, all these languages, trying to get 4.0 GPAs.
So for me, it was normal. That's the life I lived.
But everyone, you know, the outside looking in, they're like, damn, you did so much. How were you able to, you know, juggle everything? But I just tell everyone, when you're doing it as a young kid, it's kind of like you're used to it.
It's almost like, you know, if you were born with some parents had a lot of money, that's something where you're just used to. If you were born in a household that, you know, maybe didn't have, you know, much growing up and you had to, you know, work at 14 years old, you're used to that.
So for me, I was used to doing everything all at once. Like I said, going to different schools, learning different languages.
My dad working this out when I was like five, four years old you're used to that so for me i was used to doing everything all at once um like i said going to different schools learning different languages my dad working a cell when i was like five four years old um going to all these different camps practices playing these different sports it was normal for me that's just that just bummed me out because i'm thinking about my kids and like they're going to be used to just people on the street being like what's up big cat remember when you pissed your pants and be their normal. Right, right.
Yeah. I wish I was Mr.
Universe. When did you start drinking protein? I would say I was, so how this whole thing worked was my, you know, we worked out.
I started working out as a young kid. Boom.
What age? I was like five years old. Jeez.
Like lifting weights? Yeah. So PVC pipes.
I didn't start, you know, real weights just to get the form down. So bench press.
I didn't back squat when I was young. I was doing like dumbbell, hold the dumbbell between your legs and do regular squats.
I didn't start doing like real weights, I would say, until I was seven, eight years old. That's kind of soft.
Seven, eight years old. That's when I started, you know, getting the 45-pound bar to do bench and then some back squat and whatever.
But, yeah, I was in the gym just to get my form right early on. Back in our garage, we had a garage with some weights.
So I never really took protein until I would say I was seven, eight years old, but it was a protein that my dad found that we all liked. We loved the taste of it.
And it was this brand that, you know, it wasn't a big brand. It was a smaller brand, but my dad found it.
We all took it. We loved the taste, yada, yada, yada.
So then later my dad, two years later than that, he's like, you know what, let me try to make my own protein. So he made his own protein.
We started taking it. I would say I was like 9, 10 years old now.
We never sold it to anyone. It was just us for the family.
We took it. And then once I got to high school, everyone, you know, I was pretty big.
I was bigger than most of the kids, stronger than almost all of them, stronger than the linemen, everyone. People were always asking, you know, what are you taking? People thought we were on steroids, this, that, and the other.
And, you know, we never took anything. And so my dad's like, you know, maybe we should start selling the protein.
So he came out with it, started selling it. And, you know, a bunch of kids in my area were taking it.
They all, you know, all said it had results. So it was pretty cool.
But early on, he never sold it. It was just for us.
And then after, he started giving it to the public. Is there another kid who took the protein who's in the NFL now? Besides your brother.
Right. I think there's a DB that grew up where I was from.
His name's Keith Taylor. He's on the Panthers right now.
There's a few that I'm sure think I'm sure that I've taken it. I don't know when, you know, when they took it.

But mostly I was in California.

A lot of kids that I knew were on it.

Yeah.

What was the car that you rode in driving around like?

Did it have just like every type of sports equipment in it?

Honestly, no.

My dad drove a Hummer growing up.

Yeah.

Badass.

Yeah, he loved the Hummers.

Me too.

He had the H2.

And that's, you know, we rode around that. It didn't have much.
It always had like cleats in it. We always make sure we rode around our cleats.
Maybe a football or so. And then some shoes that you can run in, like regular running shoes or lifting shoes.
You know what I mean? Yeah. But cleats were always in the crowd.
Something I always remember is he always said, make sure you don't get anywhere without your cleats. I like that.
I also read that you memorized where players went to college. I have a pretty good memory, I would say, yeah.
So, like, not everyone, but, like, a lot of receivers I know, they went to college, just players in general, yeah. So at USC, you're getting ready for your pro day for your workouts.
When you ran, what was it, 4-6-1? 4-5-1. 4-5-1, excuse me.
Didn't mean to pack an extra 10 to the second on there.

But a 4-5-1, that's the reason why a lot of people gave that you slipped in the draft.

Were you expecting to run fast, or do you think that you truly have pad speed that does not translate the 40-yard dash?

I think a lot of scouts, a lot of teams, they love to look at the 40.

I mean, yeah, that's probably why I did drop in the in the in the process but i think game speed is a completely different than you know 40 speed there's guys that can run that do run 4-4 4-3 but they go out there and they don't look 4-3 4-4 4-4 and there's guys that you know run 4-5 4-6 that when they go out there they're they're playing fast i don't know how to explain it they're just moving different than than the other players it seems like i think your coach antoine randallel i feel like he was one of those guys he was yeah where it's like he ran the best routes he was so shifty he was he got he got separation right but it might not always translate so some guy standing there with a stopwatch right it's like lateral i mean you can't there's no lateral movement in a 40 there's no stop and start in a 40 it's just straight running so football i mean how many times you're just running straight you gotta if you're getting pressed and running a go you got to make a release there's always no stop and start in a 40. It's just straight running.
So football, I mean, how many times are you just running straight? You got to, if you're getting pressed and running a go, you got to make a release. There's always something, there's not just a straight run, unless you're on a breakaway with the ball in your hands and no one's in front of you.
But other than that, in football, you're always moving left and right. You got to stop, you got to start.
So there's so many little factors, I think, that go into speed that you can't really judge in a 40. Yeah, they have the three cone drill.
They have different drills at drills at the combine to try to test those things, but at the end of the day, I think you've got to watch the tape. Yeah, like DK Metcalf.
He runs a straight line, but he's wildly overrated as wide receiver. You think so? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he's not that good. Me and DK have a little thing, but I'm faster than anybody.
I raced him one time. That's a fact.
If you cheat in the 40, you can beat anybody. That's what I learned.
Right. Yeah.
I would imagine you haven't ever had like a crisis of confidence. You seem like a very confident guy, but was there a moment that you had like a, oh, I can do this in the NFL.
Like this is, I'm better than these guys. Like I've arrived.
For me, I'm going to be honest. I always knew I was at a lot of confidence, like you said.
So when I came in as a rookie, I was a fourth rounder. We had some receivers here, Tyrell Williams.
He was on the charge in the Raiders for a bit. Khalif Raymond was here.
He's still here. Brashad Perriman was here.
A few other guys. So I came in.
And, I mean, I knew I could play um for me the whole my whole thing was I just needed a shot right they were gonna throw me the ball I was gonna make the most of it and so early on the first few games I didn't get too many targets I remember uh my rookie year I was we played the Chargers I mean the Rams in in LA Jared a little homecoming you know know, just got traded and whatnot. And I had my whole

family at the game, my friends, boom, boom, this dad and the other. It was like the day before my birthday, the other day after my birthday.
And I remember going out there playing and I didn't get one target the whole game. Not one target.
Everyone was there watching. I didn't do shit.
It was, it was kind of, you know, it was like, damn, I'm in LA, got no targets. It's cool though.
and I remember the Vikings game

when I caught the game winner.

Yep.

I had like 10 catches

that day. It was kind of, you know, it was like, damn, I'm in L.A., got no targets.
It's cool, though. And I remember the Vikings game when I caught the game winner.
Yep. I had, like, 10 catches.
I think I had a lot of catches, whatever. And ever since that game, I feel like, you know, I started getting more targets.
And I knew in my head, like, all I need is a shot because I know I'm ready. I prepared my whole life for this.
So once they give me a shot, I'm going to make the most of it. And that's what I did.
And ever since then, I just never looked back. Jared said that was his favorite throw.
Really? Yeah, it was that touchdown catch. I think that unlocked you.
He's like, okay, I got a guy out there. You have been on a tear ever since.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it unlocked me, but it made you guys aware. Yeah.
Well, I know I always knew about you. Okay.
When you got drafted, I was like, this guy should go above tomorrow. I like you.
Yeah, yeah. It should have been a first rounder.
Now you're a first round yeah now you're talking yeah number one you would you say you got that dog in you for sure you got what about other guys on the team jared does he have that dog uh i think for quarterbacks it's different yeah i mean you can't he can't really hit really hit anyone ever enough to be a dog for like you got to have some type of physicality um for a quarterback i mean it's so much, that's the one position where, yeah, you can be a dog, but are you really a dog? I mean, you're just throwing balls around, making great throws. He's not a running quarterback, so he's commanding the offense, being a general.
Yeah, he's just playing catch with his dogs. Literally.
Yeah. He's like Air Bud.
What about Jack Fox? I like him. He's a dog? I like him.
Dog. Dog.
I take that back. Jared's a dog.
Literally. Literally.
He's like Air Bud. Yeah.
What about Jack Fox?

I like him.

He's a dog?

I like him.

Dog.

Dog.

I take that back.

Jared's a dog.

Yeah.

Jack Fox can be a dog.

Jared's a dog.

He's a fox.

For quarterbacks, it's just toughness.

Right.

It's just, yeah.

Being able to get hit and get up.

Yeah.

I mean, Jared's tough for sure.

Yeah.

Panae Sewell, dog.

Dog.

Big dog.

Huge dog.

Aiden Hutchinson?

Dog.

Dog.

Dog.

Yeah.

Rodrigo?

Dog. Dog.
Yeah. Jack Campbell? Dog.
That seems like a we'll see. That seems like a we'll see.
But I've seen enough. David Montgomery? Dog.
Jamir Gibbs? Dog. You ever seen David Montgomery's run against the Packers? I've seen it, yeah, multiple times.
The run. It's a legendary run.
What was that, like 61 yards up the gut? Yep, and a field goal out of it um he i i want to talk about fantasy real quick you got a dm from a fantasy owner yeah it started off funny and then it got a little weird i'm gonna read it and then you can maybe give a message to all fantasy owners that might draft you this year okay uh this random guy dm'd amon ron said congrats you've been selected to my fantasy that being said, I want to set some ground rules. We will be perfect in every aspect of the game.
You drop a pass, you run a mile, you miss blocking assignment, you run a mile, you fumble the football, and I will break my foot off in your John Brown hind parts. And then you will run a mile perfection.
Like I said, it got a little weird at the end there when he's like, I'm going to kick you in the ass. But do you have a message to anyone who is thinking about drafting you um i mean i get so many fantasy messages it's actually insane uh i don't understand what the big deal is why people are so obsessed with fantasy but well remember they i guess i'll never know yeah the fans the fans do pay your salary they do yeah and the media and the media and you guys you guys would you'd be playing in a parking lot without us right yeah yeah um but i mean shoot my message is if you pick me you will be in good hands that's about it okay first overall i mean you pick me whenever you want just pick me okay i'll pick you you'll pick me but i will hold you accountable yeah you will be running miles i will send you videos when you got that were you like what the hell is going on i i get so many but that one was definitely stood out i'm like i gotta take a screenshot of this yeah it's wild what about after a game if do people get mad at you get a lot of like hate fantasy um i wouldn't you know i'm gonna be honest i haven't had that many bad games in my in my career yeah i get targeted a lot what about that la game i wasn't on no one's team at that at that point in time you were on my team i was yeah i was mad was that on your team throughout the whole year that was actually me that wrote you probably traded me i did yeah you probably are a fantasy legend to a lot of people because like that breaking out and then that stretch run right where like you weren't drafted in a lot of fantasy leagues and people picked you up that rookie my rookie year yeah it was crazy because i had like two touchdowns i think it was the playoff playoffs is what week it's like 16 one week before the last yeah yeah so we played the seahawks had like two touchdowns one rushing one receiving over 100 yards like nine catches and i got so many dms uh people just thanking me yeah you won some leagues where's your uh dad's uh with Kevin Durant these days? You know, I don't know.
You'd have to ask him. He'd probably go on a whole spiel with that.
But I don't think he has no hate versus KD. He just wants to make sure you train your calves.
Yeah, that was a PSA for everyone out there. He still tells me to make sure I train mine.
You should. You do calf raises? I do.
Where do you put up? We have like a standing calf machine. You put the little things on your shoulder.
You work out? I have one. We live in the gym.
I don't know. Maybe you live more than them.
The calf is literally the one part of my body that I'm proud of. That's it.
I put however much weight I put on. It's nothing crazy.
Just make sure I get my reps. What's the max squat you've ever had? Max squat, I think it was, shoot, during OTAs, I hit like 420, 430.
How much do you weigh? 200. Yeah.
That's pretty good. Ass to grass? You got full bend.
You have to. If it's not all the way down, I'm not counting it.
That was funny in Hard Knocks when KD is probably just sitting at home watching. He's like, oh, I can't wait for Hard Knocks.
Catching random straights. And then he's looking down at his cap.
He's like, they are pretty good. God damn it.
Probably got in the gym after that. When you decided to go to USC, your brother went to Notre Dame, right? Yeah.
Did you just go to USC to piss him off? No, honestly, no. I loved Notre Dame.
That was actually between Notre Dame and SC. I was like, I don't know which one I like.
My brother, though, he ended up declaring early, so he left after three years. I was like, if he would have stayed one more year, I probably would have went to Notre Dame.
But he left early. I was like, you know what? I like Notre Dame, but I want to keep my talent in California.
I feel like a lot of people from California were leaving, taking their talent elsewhere. Like why would, right.
Bryce Young went from California to Alabama. I mean, all these players, CJ Stroud, California to Ohio State.
Like, if you can just keep all our talent in California and all go to SC, I feel like SC would be that much better, but SC's back, so. Yeah.
Are they? They're back. They're going to have to play Big Ten football soon.
Don't worry about that. Oh, you sure? I'm positive.
You think you guys can handle Rutgers? You heard of Caleb Williams? Yeah. I've heard of him, yeah.
He's not going to be there forever. You're right.
Then you've got to go to West Lafayette in November. We'll get another chance for him.
Caleb Williams is, I mean, do you watch? Like, I'm always curious, because you're in the NFL, you're playing. Do you get a chance to watch USC every week? I do, but the only thing is, is the time change is crazy.
So if they're playing at 730, which a lot of them were last year, it's 1030 here, and it's the night before my game, so I'm watching two drives going to bed. Yeah.
But if it's like a day game, I can watch the whole thing. So you probably thought that Utah game was awesome because that first two drives were sick.
You're talking about the Pac-12 Championship? No, at Utah when basically USC was kicking their ass in the sunset and Utah woke up. That game was crazy.
Yeah. But the Pac-12 championship, I was.
Yeah, that wasn't great. I was sick.
That wasn't great. So are you guys fully back though? 100%.
What does back mean? College football playoffs. Oh, wow.
That's a low bar. That's the standard? Yeah.
The standard is the standard. In it right now.
We're in it. Yeah, I mean, it was like last year in the Pac-12.
You get to play all those soft West Coast kids. Don't run the football.
Take it right now. Go for it right now.
Do you, watching all the NIL stuff, are you like, man, I would have made so much money? I mean, I probably would have made some money, but I don't know how much. I always wondered to myself, how much are these dudes really making? Do you guys know? I think quarterbacks are getting in the millions.
Like, big time. Big time.
Like, K. Williams, definitely.
Yeah. Arch Manning, probably making a ton of money.
Yeah. What's a ton? Probably, like, $3 million.
Yeah. How do you know? Because the boosters in Austin are.
You know that? Yeah. Yeah.
You know the boosters? I knew Red McCombs. There are boosters, too.
Got it, got it. We have podcast boosters.
Yeah. But, yeah, like, most players, I think, like, average players probably making, I don't know, 10, 20.
Right. Yeah.
Nothing crazy. Yeah.
Nothing. We just gave free cheesesteaks for a year to a guy at Toledo.
Really? So that's pretty good. You can't put a price tag on that.
Right. Yeah.
That's huge. That's actually more free food.
Yeah. Exactly.
Free food. All right.
Well, Amon Ra, this has been awesome. I have one last question.
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You want to give us a prediction for the Lions season? A record? Yeah. Do I want to give you guys this? Did ask this to jared yeah he said uh 15 and two yeah you're lying no he did he did you guys are good liars yeah he did i'm a terrible liar terrible all right fine if you don't want to answer that question i have a backup question yeah he did 15 actually answered it yeah well we kind of pushed it was a roundabout well, we kind of pushed.
It was a roundabout way.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I'll give you a roundabout way.

Okay.

How fast is Justin Fields?

I never won against him, but from what my brother says, he's fast.

He's fast.

Yeah.

You guys are Bears fans?

I'm Bears fans.

So I said 15 and two, but the two losses are to the Bears.

You're a Bears fan?

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah. Interesting.
What's wrong? Are you excited? wrong excited uh yeah yeah very excited you sound like my brother what what is that supposed to mean he's excited too i'm excited last year very excited he was excited like last year last year was exciting not in the win and loss column but it was exciting was it you had fun watching uh yeah i had a lot of fun i do you know the history of bears quarterbacks? That's good. It hasn't been great.
Yeah. I like you.
You're mad. Yeah.
I'm just messing with you. Yeah, yeah.
He's going to shut you down. Who is? Justin Fields? No, your brother.
He's going to shut me down? Yeah. How does that work? We're just going to put him out there and shadow you the whole game.
Don't do that. You don't want to do that.
What's the motivation when you play the Bears? Do you find motivation for every team? Like a specific? No, but i love playing against my brother's team so when he was in the packers i love playing the packers i still love playing the packers just because of the packers and then the bears i love playing them because he's on the team and i know some players on the team through him um but i just whatever team he's on i love playing against okay but so now he's on the bears so but like can you oh yeah there we go you go. You just hit my gunpoint.
Can you find the motivation for each team, though? Like the Jaguars. Jaguars? I mean, no, I think each team is – I don't really find them.
It's just another game, yeah. It's just whether they drafted one of the 16 guys.
I just know – if they have someone that, you know, I just – if someone that was drafted before me is on the team. Careful with that.
Yeah, put that away. I got my eyes on him.
Easy job. I'm watching him.
Okay. Okay.
I like that. That's grit.
Right. Finding that grudge everywhere.
Speaking of mental notes. Yeah.
I got one last question. It might get my ass kicked.
So can you promise not to kick my ass for asking this? Go ahead. Was that a yes? No promise, but go ahead.
Okay. That was not a yes.
I might get my ass kicked. We had Von Miller on the show.
We just talked to him. Dog.
Absolute dog. Yeah.
He told us that he kissed his dad on the lips. When? Still? Yeah.
Still. Do you kiss your dad on the lips? No, I kissed my dad on the lips growing up until I would say, what, like, until I got to high school.
But then in high school, I think a few times I kissed him on the lips. Like when I, what was it? When I graduated, I think when I committed.
So a lot of people think it's weird. I kissed my mom on the lips too.
I kissed my brothers on the lips when I was growing up. My dad made us do it.
So we'd get in fights. And then after the fight was over, he would make us kiss each other on on the lips that's a good way to defuse it you can't stay mad at somebody after you kiss them on the lips that's awesome i do that in fights sometimes just kiss them on the lips that was gonna be my plan if you tried to beat my ass i was gonna kiss you but no my dad made us do it so i think uh i mean it's not a thing i think in america really but yeah i think it's a i mean germany it's kind of normal yeah um so it was normal for me growing up that'd be awesome if after you played the bears you met in you know the middle field kiss on lips like yeah yeah we went to battle all right well thanks so much man this has been awesome appreciate you coming on.
And best of luck this year, except against the Bears.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Appreciate it.

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We have part of my cheesesteak chicken.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've been.

Not yet.

No.

We do have the buffalo chicken cheese.

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Oh, right, right, right.

Come on, Hank.

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Sounds like.

Hank, name your favorite menu items for part of my cheesesteak.

Besides the ones I just said.

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Okay.

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Fact. Big fan of the cheesesteak besides the ones i just said the brownie bites okay yep yep those are good fact uh big fan of the cheesesteak actually fact okay underrated underrated item damn it he got us he's good he's good all right let's do the mount rushmore of siblings what's the order and what's the score um you guys are tied for first and second with 21 and we have 20 okay wow a lot of games

left big big week for max next week oh my god so yeah you're going on cook you're going on another

vacation first vacation well no but in the last couple weeks what the word another means you've

taken one prior could be anytime yeah oh we have unlimited vacations in our contract so

um clarence thomas honoring yeah we're doing another vacation so you're gonna let max cook

Thank you. anytime.
Yeah. Oh, we have unlimited vacations in our contract.
So Clarence Thomas honoring it. Yeah, we're doing another vacation.
So you're going to let Max cook. I think you should.
I'll be I'll do great. I don't know what you guys do you guys ever hate getting sucked off? That's not what I said.
Nothing. Yeah, you said I hate more than your dick in between two voluptuous breasts.
Nothing I hate more than having an orgasm on some tits.

The internet agreed.

Okay.

What's the order?

Me and Billy, Hank and Max, Big Cat and PFT.

All right.

And has Billy contributed today?

Kind of.

That's a no.

You don't have to protect him anymore, Jake. Oh, by the way, did you see that Billy applied to be the general manager part of my take? Yeah.
Which I don't even know if general managers are happening anymore. Who knows? So good job, Billy.
We should just tell him he got it. His pitch was my leadership strategy would just be to not do anything and let you guys do everything.
So way different from what Billy was was doing before players coach yeah yeah all right let's do it mount rushmore of siblings all right mount rushmore of siblings one one we are going to go with the mannings okay oh hank you were wincing there you thought that someone else was getting picked yeah wow it's our pick right manning's on my list. Football.
We're a football podcast. We are a football podcast.
Eli won four Super Bowls together. Cooper.
Yeah. I mean, he was actually the best football player.
He was his most overrated siblings of all time. They would probably be up there.
He was just salty that Eli stole two from you. Stole two.
Now there's a better football. Peyton.
Peyton. Everyone talks about Peyton.
He won. Basically won.
Better football won. Yep.
Yeah, we're going better on this program. Better football.
I know what you're going to do. Jim and John Harbaugh.
Oh, okay. Good pick.
Good pick. He's on our list.
No, it's a good pick. Okay.
What were you thinking? So how are we doing this on the draft? Are we saying similar to the LeBron James pick, pick something that he doesn't like. If I picked the Mannings, I would never pick the Mannings.

Are we saying like –

Well, you picked LeBron James.

I picked LeBron James.

Are we saying like the Harbaugh's, the Mannings,

are we saying their first and last names?

How are we doing this?

Yeah, Cooper Cup or Cooper Manning and Eli.

I think first and last name.

Okay, so Peyton and Eli, is that a fair label?

Okay.

What are we going to do here?

We haven't even really discussed this. At all.
Oh, no. So many numbers are coming.
Start the clock. I'm just going to trust my guy.
You take the first one, then I'm going to take the second one. Okay.
Well, no. We should talk about this.
Big guy doesn't trust you. No, I do trust him.
I don't trust him. I want to make sure that we're true.
Stop that, Hank. Shut up, Hank.

He doesn't trust you.

Shut the fuck up, Hank.

I want to make sure that we're, because like little from column A, little from column B.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

So give me just throw on some numbers.

It's basically, if you listen to part of my take my Rushmore season, you'd think that

PFT and I are always ordering Chinese food.

Yeah.

We'll take a number five. All right.

Five. Okay.
I like

number 16.

Yeah. I was thinking 16

and 18. I like those.

If we wanted to go combat it. Yeah.

All right. So we'll start.
Why don't you go

18 first? Okay. We're going to go

with the Kelsey brothers last in the Super

Bowl in the Super Bowl together.

Great podcasters. Not quite at a billion

downloads yet, but give them time.

Both 100% going to be in the Hall of Fame. Yep.
So can't say that about the Harbaugh's. You could actually make the argument that they're like two of the very, very best to ever play their positions.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. So the Kelsey's would be our first pick.
We'll go football across the board. And for our second pick, why don't we do a combo? How about a double combo? A double combo.
I know. They're on our list.
Yes. Serena and Venus, the double combo.
Love it. So fun facts about them.
Serena has won 39 Grand Slam titles. And Venus has won 21 Grand Slam titles.
Wow. That's a lot of Grand Slams.
That's a lot of salamis yes for a combo yep double combo has a double combo ever been picked no we were the first ones i think we were the first ever we just broke barriers yep double combo congratulations if you missed a couple episodes we don't really do episodes with multiple picks if you missed a couple episodes uh that will this will be confusing but we're about to go quintuple combo. What? I know what you're doing.
The most talented pair, set of siblings of all time, the Jackson 5. And that's not a combo.
Not a combo. There's some combos in there.
That's not a combo. There's some combos in there.
That's not a combo. A combo is a black woman.
There's combos in the Jackson 5. That's not a cop.
Janet would be one, but she's not in the original Jackson 5. Yeah.
Hank, can you, can you list, um, Michael Jackson members of the Jackson 5 and his, the other four and the other four brothers. You don't even know Tito or Jermaine.
Janet's not in there. You don't know.
Tito or Jermaine. No.
Definitely. She'd come along.
Well, she was a little sister, right? Yeah. I thought that was the whole family.

You thought she was one of the five?

I don't fucking know.

You don't know anything about your pick.

She was not one of the five.

It was Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon, and Michael.

She was not one of the five.

And then their father, Joe.

It's a good pick.

We had it too, but just don't try to steal the combo.

It's not a combo. I thought, yeah.
It's a good pick. It's a good pick.
We had it too, but just don't try to steal the combo. It's not a combo.

It's a good pick.

It's a good pick.

We had them on our list.

Definitively not a combo.

Okay.

We're going to go with...

He's such a big Jackson 5 fan.

Wait, but wasn't there a high voice in there?

Michael.

No.

Yeah.

We're going to go with the Kardashians. Ooh okay let's go on big name rank rank them uh kim chloe oh i don't know the rest you don't know the rest kim chloe and courtney yep and rob rob is the number one it's yes it's Rob, Courtney Kim, Chloe I mean Kendall would be up there but she doesn't really count is she a Kardashian? it's Rob and Courtney are great I think Jersey Jerry played golf with Caitlyn Jenner today that should have been interesting that's that is there's no way that's true okay in the pro-am hold please that hold that he was at the he was at the live pro-am and this was a tweet from uh this morning it was I'll read it for you good morning I'm at Trump National in Bedminster New Jersey today where President Trump and his son Eric are playing in Liv's Golf's Pro-Am.

That will explain some of my anticipated Twitter activity today, so buckle up.

Also scheduled to play in the Pro-Am, Lindsey Graham, Caitlyn Jenner, Johnny Damon, Jeremy Roenick, Joe Sackick, and someone named Jersey Jerry.

So good. I mean, Jersey Jerry is the number one name in that oh yeah yeah for sure not even close uh okay all right kardashians yes we had it on our list i don't think we would have picked it i just it was in the brain dump that you have to throw out there because they're a very famous family but right but i think that they're system siblings because really their mom is the one that's pulling all the strings right and it's also more that i just don't like how they treat rob remember when they made rob rob couldn't fit in the suit for uh kim's wedding in france might have been chloe's courtney's i don't know uh he couldn't fit in the suit and he flew back home he just didn't go to the wedding he's too fat to to fit in the suit.
You don't know anything about the Kardashians. Correct.
Okay. Have you even watched? Nope.
If they walked in this office right now, would you know? I would know what they look like. Okay.
Some of them. Yeah, you would not know Rob.
Correct. Rob's my G.
Yeah. All right.
Rob probably is a top G. They're a notable set of siblings, and that's what we're doing here.
Okay. Next, we're going to go with someone or a group of people who's been the new semi recently.
The Oakage brothers. Okay.
Okay. Pick.
Okay. The Oakage brothers are all over the world right now.
Yep. Great.
Greatest siblings of all time. Yeah.
I don't hate. What are they known for? Being intimidating as fuck.
Yeah. Sorry, you guys, you guys keep doing it.
We're right in the mix. We're right in the mix.
Okay. That's not a bad take, Jake.
This is a Mount Rushmore pick that I... The type that I like, where if we're not doing a competition, that would 100% be my list.
Yeah. I like the pick.
Maybe not for this competition. But I like the pick.
We'll see. Right.

It doesn't matter what you guys say.

Well, we vote.

Yeah.

I won't be voting for you.

I won't be voting for you.

I was going to vote for you, and now I'm not.

Okay.

Did you just disenfranchise us, Jake?

Yeah.

Okay.

Billy's not going to like that.

Hank.

Max.

It's getting good.

Jonas Brothers.

I like that look on your face for this podcast? yeah okay I'm not a Jonas Brothers fan so I don't know this poll goes out between them as well Hank's just pandering this poll goes out on the internet it Okay. It does.
That's a fact. PFT, I think we stick true to ourselves and we go 423.
Okay. I'll do four.
Okay. Mario Brothers.
Done. Mario and Luigi.
Dassy, Max knows. Max knows.
Max knows. Max knows.
Because you look like the step brother or the half brother of the Mario. That's a steal.
That's a steal. Mario and Luigi.
In the third round. Max knows.
Max knows. Max knows, because you look like the stepbrother or the half-brother of the Marios.

That's a steal.

That's a steal. Mario and Luigi.

In the third round.

Great guys.

I was practically raised by Mario and Luigi.

Yes.

And now this one could be a mistake.

I'll say hand up if it is, but it is dear to my heart.

And you'll have to list both of them.

So I think you list Mario and Luigi.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But like Jackson 5, are we supposed to name?

No, you can just say Jackson 5. Okay.
The Kardashiansians the yokich brothers you can say mario brothers yeah yeah say mario and luigi is there anything else you would want to pick pft i don't want to i say go for that i like i like number 11 um but i like your pick okay i'll go with maybe the greatest brother story ever told it is Kane and Undertaker Kane and Undertaker yeah they are that was a big deal when they revealed that right what are you talking about Paul Bearer fucked Undertaker's mom and had Kane and then Undertaker tried to fucking burn down the entire funeral home with Kane in there this all happened this is all the truth it was maybe the wildest sports story of all time I don't know anything about WWE but sounds true right it sounds sure yes Hank this all happened you don't think that they're not are they they're not blood half half half yeah half does half not count you want to throw a flag on that no it's fine yeah oh you could get kylie and yeah we would get them part of it and kendall no we'll go with our uh last pick we'll we'll go fictional as well john snow aria stark. Weren't there other Starks?

The last season wrote it for us.

Wait, that means you have to take Bran.

Nope.

Oh, yeah, you do.

There's other, no.

But they're siblings.

Well, to be fair, we have Peyton and Eli.

We didn't include Cooper on that.

Correct.

Cooper definitely gets included.

Yeah, it's the whole family.

The thing he did with Rob Riggle?

Okay, good pick. Congrats on brand.
Wait, hold on. We got a very famous person calling.
We're taping right now. You're on air.
Yeah, we're taping right now. Okay.
All right. Do you want to say anything? It's Brooks.
Hey, Brooks. How we doing, Brooks? Hey, Hank, go fuck yourself.

What the fuck?

Yes.

So Brooks is calling me about because we're going to play in the live pro-am.

That's exactly why I'm calling you.

I was trying to come up with some good ideas.

I was going to run by you, but not on air.

We're going to save that.

Okay. All right.

I'll call you after, but we're excited.

I'm not excited.

The only reason I picked up was I wanted people to get excited for the fact that we're going to be playing golf with you.

Yes, yes.

Okay.

We've got big stuff coming.

Don't worry.

I love it.

All right.

I'll call you when we're done in about a half hour.

All right.

Thanks.

Bye.

Congrats on the baby.

That was worth picking up.

Oh, shit.

You got to call him back.

You got to call him back.

Be like, tell him that he hung up too fast.

Yeah, good call. That was a great fuck you, Hank.
Why is he mad at you? I don't, I'm just trying to live my life. He's probably going to think it's a butt dial.
No one calls back right away. Right? Unless it's super important because it's super important.
Congrats on the baby. We know he's got his phone in his hand.
Maybe he doesn't want to be on the show. Fuck.
All right. I'll just text him and say, hey, you hung up.
Congrats on the baby. Okay.
All right, where are we? Our last pick, final pick of the draft, is going to be Orville and Wilbur Wright. Okay.
They created the airplane. It's a pretty sick invention.
Some people say that the Incas did that a long time ago, but yeah, they get credit for it. Yeah.
I didn't realize that Orville and... Wait, what's another? Orville and Wilbur.
Orville and Wilbur. They're from North Carolina? No, they're from Ohio.
They were born in Dayton. They did the test in North Carolina.
That's why there's a license plate battle. And I give that to North Carolina.
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
The Wright brothers. The Wright brothers.
The Wright brothers. Flying is sick.
Orville and what? Wilbur. Wilbur.
Flying is sick. Good job, my dad.
Flying is a big deal. Flying is great.
Although, are they responsible for all the delays? Technically, yes. They're also responsible for 9-11.
Yep. Jeez.
True. It's true.
Jake. I mean.
Jake just took 9-11. Great job, Jake.
Any comment there, Jake? All those people who died in Malaysia. Oh, you're also taking responsibility for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Oh, shit. Jake.
And Dresden. This is racking up.
We got millions now. The firebombing of Tokyo.
Jake, this is all on your- Drone strikes. Yeah.
Wow. The challenger.
The challenger. Jake just took credit for the challenger.
Challenger. Hank, speak up.
The challenger. That wasn't the Wright brothers.
I mean, it was started there. No, different, different physics.
All right. What did we miss? That was a good Mount Rushmore.
We could have picked Rex and Rob Ryan. Yeah.
We thought about it. The Long Brothers.
The Long Brothers. The Watts.
i thought you were gonna pick that's right when you said football no i thought you're gonna go water gronks yeah thanks or god why don't you take the gronks yeah the allman brothers the klitschko brothers the kennedys how would that have played on the graphic um i mean it helped you guys the other day that's true yeah but. Yeah, but that was.
Yeah, top down. But that was killing a Kennedy.
Yeah. Jake and Logan Paul.
Oh, that's a good one. Good pick.
The Winklevoss. The Winklevoss.
Memes said that there was something that happened during prep that was insane. So, and when he was talking to Jake.
What did he say? What insane thing happened, Memes? You hear me? I said the Wayans family. The Wayans.
The Wayans. The Wayans family.
Jake was like, I have no idea who they are. Damon, Keenan Ivory.
Oh, my God. This is an illuminating episode for you.
So, shout out. Have you ever seen White Chicks? Yeah, I have.
Scary movie? No. One and two? No.
Shout out. Sixth Man.
Shout out out big tone who who dm me this idea for the

brothers his picks were bad though his picks were really bad he said the the uh paul brothers the

winklevosses the molinas the tates the tates what a slap brothers yeah the coke brothers

he did have jonas brothers there the same brown the cray brothers

Thank you. brothers yeah the coke brothers he did have jonas brothers there the same brown the cray brothers anyone know walbergs yeah walberg oh yeah could have gone oh the curries uh the olsen twins luke and owen wilson the bash brothers mcguire and canseco yep the baldwins that i would have thrown a flag on the Bash Brothers.
Why? Why? Well, I mean, we're just doing made-up siblings. Called the Bash Brothers.
Right now, tell me right now before we put this graphic out, do you not think that Kane and Undertaker are brothers? No. So then you want it off? I don't care.
It's just... You don't think that Undertaker...
They are brothers. I was a big WWE fan back in the day.
Paul Bearer fucked Undertaker's mom. Okay, fine.
And Kane was born. That's fine.
Know your history, dude. You seriously, read a book one time.
Angus and Malcolm Young from ACDC. The Gasols.
Yep. Did we say the Olsen twins? I did, yeah.
The Lopez twins. Yeah, that's a good one.
Hank, did you say the barbers? Tiki. Yep.
Tiki. Meme said the Morris brothers.
Clay Thompson, Steph Curry. Splash.
The Lopez brothers. Clay Thompson, Steph Curry.
Good pick, Max. Griffins.
The Griffins. Yeah.
The Griffins. Cal and.
The Kepkas. Oh, the Kepkas, yeah.
Cal and Billy Ripken. Yeah.
Jimmy Carter and his drunk brother. That guy was a piece of work.
Yeah. That guy rocked.
Yeah. J.B.
Smoove. Abraham and Johnny Lincoln.
John Lincoln? Did Abraham Lincoln have a brother? I know John Wilkes Booth did. He did? Yeah.
Was he like a good guy? I think Abraham Lincoln saved John Wilkes Booth's brother's life, actually. Whoa.
Years before. Probably wish he had that one back.
That's insane. Yeah.
D'Amelio's was another one I said. Oh, yeah.
Oh, the Cavender twins. Yeah.
That would have slapped. That's another.
That would have slapped on the graphic. That would have gotten the horny guys.
The Island Boys. Oh.
The Island Boys. Those guys have been in the news.
I'll ask were they actually sucking each other's dicks? I think so. That video that God damn well I can't say anything bad about Elon because he does pay us to tweet now but he'll also take your side in a lawsuit against himself.
That's true. Well, I want a lawsuit for allowing that on Twitter because it was.
Yeah, I don't. I hope that wasn't.
It was very blurred out. So I'm hoping there was some kind of prank involved.
Yeah, well, there's not a lot of people on Earth that look like the Island Boys. No, I'm certainly what was blurred out was there wasn't actually.
Got it happened got it i hope so yeah god damn it uh okay good mount rushmore everyone memes what do you have oh i showed max the video he just showed it it wasn't blown out stand up and show jake what is it uh this the island boys it's the island doing what the island boys The Island Boys being bros for life. What? Yeah.
Sorry, Jake. Yeah, not good.
Oh, the Bosa's. Oh, yeah.
You see Bosa. I think it's Joey Bosa is eating 5,000 calories a day.
That's got to be so awesome. Wait, that doesn't seem that much.
5,000 is a lot. Wasn't Phelps eating like 15? Maybe.
5,000 does seem like a lot, though. I feel like when I'm eating.
On a Sunday, sometimes. Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like I definitely eat 5,000.
That's a lot. I mean, a regular McDonald's order is like 1,500.
Yeah, so you eat that four times? Three times? Three times, yeah. I can do $5,000.
No problem. Okay, let's wrap up.
We got Fyre Fest of the Week and then we'll send everyone on their weekend. Henry.
Daniel. Henry.
Daniel. Henry.
Daniel. Henry.
How do we get a billion listens? What is this? Yesterday, I played my first volleyball game in Chicago. There's a lot of very active volleyball community here in Chicago.
Something I didn't know beforehand. So it's probably people that are like, wait, volleyball, Chicago.
Who knew? Did you bump and set? No, you do. Side out.
And spike. And they rotate.
I'm obviously an athlete, so I was playing well. I was spiking.
Oh, yeah? How did you do a bowling? Well, you told me if I beat you, then you were going home. So for the sake of the stream, I let you win.
By 60 or 70 pins? Yeah. Did you break 100? I did break 100.
No, I mean in bowling. Yeah.
Okay. By golf terms, yes.
Yes, he broke 100. It was 158 to 85.
Yeah, again, I literally... Oh, wait.
So you actually didn't break 100. No, he did not.
No, he tweeted out he broke 100 being like in golf terms. Oh, I didn't realize that.
He realized that afterwards. Define break 100.
He should have tweeted, I hit it 85. I shot at 85.
Shot at 85. Shot at 85 today.
go. Um, anyway, that's not what this is about.
This is about me being an athlete.

Volleyball. You have long arms.
I imagine that you'd be pretty good at.

Yeah, I had one of those like jump of the net. They tried to get it over.

I spiked it back. We won the first game.
And then in the second game, they're

rotating. It was these people you're playing.
It was pretty much random. I

brought Ben Mints. They're like, we need people.
I was like, I'm bringing

Mints. Oh, no, I knew one person on the team that I met one time.
It pretty random I was like oh this is my friend Ben Mintz that's the greatest deleted scene from Top Gun ever thank you Ben Mintz just shirtless on the beach playing volleyball Mintz serving was Mintz playing was as electric as you could imagine I was playing so I couldn't film oh his noises I wish I had his noises it was great he like I'm guessing you guys didn't. What was coed? It was pretty casual.
I would imagine, but I get the ball. It's my turn to serve.
And I'm like, fuck. I've literally never served a volleyball in my life.
Being the ambidextrous person I am. I didn't know whether I serve with my left hand, serve with my right hand.
I tried to pass it off to someone else. Like, no, no, you got it.
You were sitting out the last game. I was like, all right, here we go.

And I served it and it went pretty much 90 degrees right into the other court

and like hit someone else over there.

And then I moved on.

Thank you.

Yeah, it was a tough, but it was tough.

I like it.

Like I was playing well, I was contributing.

And then it was like, all right, you can serve, right?

I was like, sure.

You got to grind at this, Hank.

I got it.

Yeah, I got it.

I got to practice my serve. I literally have to figure out if I serve lefty or serve righty.
I don't know. Why not vote? Can't you serve like that? I don't think so.
That's not a serve. A serve is you slap it.
Yeah, you slap it. I mean, I know, but I think in beach volleyball, you can hit underhand too, right? If you want.
Well, not with two hands, though. Could you? I don't know.
I don't know how that works. Volleyball is a stupid sport.

No, it's fun.

Oh, no.

It's stupid.

You guys do beers after?

Yeah.

That's the best part.

Best part about any, like, rec sports league is you know that beers are after.

Volleyball is a stupid sport.

I had a great time.

I wanted to start a league parcel team.

I'm in.

You want to play?

Yeah.

I like volleyball.

I thought we were doing softball.

Yeah, softball.

We're playing softball.

We can do both.

Fine, I'm in.

What if we combine them? Volleyball, but with bats. I like that.
That would be fun. Okay, so that was your fire fest? So your fire fest was...
I can't serve a volleyball. Your fire fest was you were playing volleyball, and the worst thing that happened to you this week was you hit it out of bounds once.
Anybody laugh at you? That's a hell of a week.

That's a hell of a week. Yeah, what do you want from me? I'm saying that's

a hell of a week. You're rolling.

It was a tough moment. What did she

say? There was girls on the team. It was like,

this kid's not, you know,

can't serve. Would you hit a woman?

I don't even remember.

I literally walked away.

That's not going to hold up in defense. Like, I hit it and turned my back.
I didn't even remember. I literally walked away.
That's not going to hold up in defense. Like I hit it and turned my back.
You're taking a leave of absence from the New York Yankees? I didn't even see it hit them. Them.
I don't know what they identify as. Okay, good point.
Good point. PFT.
My Firefest is I'm going to Ireland for the weekend. Yeah.
So this is like a recurring theme with me and Donnie. Anytime we hang out outside of whatever city we happen to be in, it's usually halfway around the world and I usually have to fly back within 36 hours.
So I went to Hong Kong with him, came back like, yeah, about 40 hours later, hung over on MDMA, went to Qatar with him for the World Cup, came back about two and a half days later, hung over on acid for the first time. And now I I'm going to Ireland for Donnie's wedding which is going to be a blast I'm excited about it the Coors Light apparently tastes way better over in Ireland it's it's much darker it's almost black over there so I'm going to be drinking a lot of that get a mustache get a mustache from it I'm excited about the wedding the trip back on Sunday morning is gonna be tough but we grind we persevere hope what's his name Mr.
Buttigieg I hope he's listening don't fuck up the flights for me coming back if you want part of my take to go out to a billion people Pete get your shit together and then also for this trip I've been planning on getting a kilt because when am I ever going to attend a formal ceremony in Ireland again you're aware to the wedding well I was gonna wear it to the golf on Friday yeah Yeah. On the golf course.
That sounds fun. Yeah.
Well, it's actually a barstool sponsored event, Hank. So it's for work.
But I was planning on wearing a kilt out there. All the kilt stores in Chicago were closed.
So I don't have a kilt. So I need to find a place.
If you know a place in Ireland that sells kilts. Yeah.
Hit him. Let me know.
So I can pick one up on the way from the airport to the golf course. That's fucked up that he's playing golf on a Friday.
What are you doing tomorrow, Hank?

I'm going home.

No, it's not.

He's golfing with me.

Oh.

After golf.

That's entrapment, though, Big Cat.

You can't invite him and then be like,

Hank, you play so much fucking golf, you loser.

This is going to be my first round of the summer.

Well, first real round of the summer.

Exactly.

Now you get it.

Waited all the way until August 10th.

By the way, I just got clarification on the fuck you, Hank, from Brooks. He said you didn't respond to an email.
Oh, wow. From who? Probably live.
He said you didn't respond to an email. All right.
That's valid. You're probably on the course.
That's valid. All right.
My fire fest is I have two. Well, one I want you guys take on if this is a good or a bad omen.
My son, who's four, has been waking up in the middle of the night and coming in and waking me up. And he keeps saying that the Bears are coming to get him.
Okay. So I feel like that's a good thing for the Bears season.
Yeah. No, that's definitely a good privilege.
Kids know. They're like dogs when there's an earthquake.
They know when the bears are about to be back yeah he he like he he when he goes to bed he'll like look out the window just being like just making sure there's no bears out there have you guys watched anything with bears in it recently no i don't think so so yeah i can't cocaine bear yeah we did watch that the other night okay there you go that's probably it fuck you're right i forgot about that yeah cocaine bears out there yeah i can't tell if that's good or bad so i think it's good i think it's good it's a good you we'll take it as a good omen until proven otherwise yeah the monsters of the midway are back uh and then my other one is i uh broke my bed in a non-sex related thing how'd you do it jumping on it i i caught a little air and i kind of like i was like jumping kind on the side and boom, right to the ground. That's tough.
New bed? Yeah. I am on a diet, but yeah, that was tough.
That would have been... You know what? It's the lamest way you can break a bed.
That's the worst time ever to break a bed is right after you start a diet. Yeah.
It's so good to do that beforehand and then that gives you motivation. Right.
I'm so fat, I need to diet you do it after like a week of trying then that's just demoralized no if i had well think about it this way god forbid i didn't diet i probably would have gone through the floor that's true yeah you saved your own life yes but yeah that's a tough one to be like i broke the bed because all i did was basically it was like a half sit, half jump.

Not good.

Not good.

Yeah.

Not good.

Are you responding to that email?

I can't find it.

I do.

I do one of them.

Probably my biggest, uh,

like say per my email issues in life is that,

and I'm sure you guys do this too.

Maybe not as bad as me.

With a volleyball.

I read things and I mentally respond.

Yes.

But then I don't respond.

So like the second you said it, I think I know what email you're talking about.

Completely agree.

And I like in my head, I was like, this is exciting.

And I responded, but I didn't respond.

Happens to me constantly.

And now I feel so bad.

Constantly.

But now I can't even find the email.

But it was like, I like know what he's talking about, I think.

Constantly.

Okay.

Jake.

Yeah.

This entire episode. Besides every word I've said on this episode.
you've been good jake you've been good um i had you guys saw it i think on monday i had like five massive spider bites on my arm yeah they're pretty much gone now but crazy yeah they're huge so uh do you know what kind of spider nope do you know where you got them do you have bed bugs in your ADA apartment? It was really sad seeing your little dangling bandaid with the bites underneath. Yeah.
Jake is the only person I've ever seen put band-aids on a spider bite. Yeah.
Well, I put Neosporin on. Of course.
Yeah. Do you think that there's a chance you could become Spider-Man? That would be pretty sick.
Right? Yeah. Would you actually do anything with that? Or would you just be like, oh, yeah, I guess I can.
I would save the world. You would? Yeah.
The world. Yeah.
That's what he does. Where would you actually do anything with that or would you just be like oh yeah i guess i can the world you would yeah it's a world yeah that's what he does where would you start saving the world wherever they need help so right now spider-man literally drops what he's doing and goes and so right now if you if you were given the opportunity to defeat anybody in the world you go to maui yeah that fire's already out wildfires yeah oh it's out yeah so what would you do just show up and be like spider-man's here sorry ii.
Yeah. That fire's already out.
Wildfires, yeah. Oh, it's out? Yeah.
So what would you do? Just show up and be like, Spider-Man's here? Sorry I'm late. Oh, shit.
I thought this was a cool place of vacation. What does Spider-Man do now? Sorry I'm late.
It's tragic. It's awful.
I was taping a podcast, so I missed my flight. Yeah.
Whoops. Fire's already out? Damn.
Yeah. You just bumped out all of Maui.
Oh, my God god Add that to the list Of things you've destroyed Today Jay Max Or memes Do you guys have one Kind of Oh But Go on We can talk We can talk about it later No No We don't get to We don't talk We don't get one Should have said no Max We literally don't speak Off podcast. That's how you get to 1 billion downloads.
I hope we have this audio is my fire fest. For this whole episode? I think we should be fine.
Wait. What? I'm literally going to murder Stefan.
I want to murder Stefan. I have to go to Ireland.
No, I think it'll be backed up on the video portion of it.

So will the audio be good?

I think.

Where'd it go?

There was an error in audition.

Stefan also doesn't talk into mice.

He fucks shit up and he doesn't talk into mice.

He's a very hard working behind the scenes guy

Not this week

He went to Bruce Springsteen the other night

He's not in a truck right now Jake

You don't have to have his back

We should make you guys do the show from a truck

If this is all lost

So this might not

I think it'll be fine

You know the amount of gold we put out on this episode

This actually was a great episode

This was a very funny episode

The Island Boys

If Jake's reaction to the Island Boys is lost

I'll see you next time. You know the amount of gold we put out on this episode? This actually was a great episode.
This was a very funny episode. The Island Boys? If Jake's reaction to the Island Boys is lost...
It'll be good. It'll be good.
This is Max. No, it's fine.
It's fine. Oh, other Fyre Fest.
While we kill a little bit of time, I'm probably getting a parking ticket right now because for whatever reason, one of the several hundred apps that I had to download recently, the parking app here in Chicago wasn't working, so I'm probably going to walk out. Mine's working right now.
Mine wasn't working. Just go old school, pay with a card.
I don't think you can do that. No, but you can just re-up on a parking spot.
No, I couldn't even put the I couldn't even initially pay for it. No, I'm telling you the entire thing.
I used the app. The app said cannot work with this.
Oh. It doesn't work right now.
It can't work with you. Yeah, so't know i'm i at that point after i tried it three times i was like i'll put a different card see if that one if that's the issue the app literally went mike singletary on your ass yeah can't win with it can't work with it the app called me a loser so i'm probably going to go out and have like a hundred dollar parking ticket shit it's all right okay i just right off the pen they'll take care of it.
All right. Let's do, uh, what? Did someone say shit?

No,

I did.

Oh. parking ticket shit it's all right okay uh let's write after pen they'll take care of it all right let's do uh what did someone say shit no i did oh i thought i thought i'm nervous i was i was doing a bit that i forgot that we don't work for power i was i was i'm hyper nervous right now what's going on yeah anytime stephan why he is the fucking grim reaper it's a little too quiet he walks in and he's like uh it not a problem whenever max is like too focused on something related to his job you know that something's

wrong yeah okay numbers 18 3 i'm gonna go 33 i'll go 69 memes you ever gotten this no 20

meme says one stephan give a number and if it hits that number we all get to beat you up No. 20.
One. It means it's one.

Stefan, give a number, and if it hits that number,

we all get to beat you up.

That's fair.

22.

All right.

41.

Save your life.

All right.

See you on Monday.

Love you guys.

Fish don't know what fires are.

Talking away. I'm the one.
I'm the one. I'm the one.
I'm the one. I'm the one.
I'm the one. Know what fighters are.
Thank you. Drink up the heart of me Drink up the heart of me

Drink up the heart of me

Drink up the heart of me

Things that we're saying

It is all I thought

Just play that word and breathe away

You're all the things

I've got to remember

Take on me

Take on me

Take on me

Take on me

Take on me Take on me Thank you. Take on me.
Take on me.

Take on me.