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Welcome to Pardon My Take. Today is Friday, July 28th.
And boys, we had a hot streak. We were two days in a row, two episodes in a row together back in Chicago.
And then all business Pete forgot to pay the electricity bill. So we're now back on Riverside.
I heard that white socks dave just chewed through the electrical wiring and that that disabled all the uh all the voltage going to the office i do miss you guys already yeah it was nice being face to face for a while it was great we're back to we're back to zoom uh if you are upset about this we will put on a great show we were together for the leSean McCoy interview we were also together for the Mount Rushmore. But if you'd like to complain, please tweet AllBusinessPete.
What's his actual Twitter handle, Hank? Can we get that shouted out? Maybe put it in the lower part of the YouTube so everyone makes sure that they have that. Is it AllBusinessPete? I think it's at Philly underscore Maze.
Well, you can also complain to him. It's AllBusinessPete.
All Business Pete. At All Business Pete.
So please, all complaints go to him for not paying the electricity bill. The good news is All Business Pete is also in charge of our multi-million dollar new office that we're building right now.
So if you don't pay the electricity bill in one, I'm sure the other one's doing fine. Yeah.
Yeah, we'll be good. Don't worry about it.
We'll be'll be in there right on time yeah we'll be right on time uh i do love pete he's actually everyone because the plug god is not here we should say that all weekend long you can watch our darling jake on barstool.tv at the corn fairy tour in glenview which hank and i were out there and it's a sick setup unbelievable setup i'll just say that jake for as much shit as we give him it has a natural golf force yeah it's very soothing yeah i i was watching it at my computer i took a nap sitting up it was wonderful it also is you know this show we've been doing for a very long time jake has been when did jake start doing the show with us four or five years ago summer of 18 it's one of those really no 19 19 it's one of those things where um we can give each other shit till the day is long because we know each other and spend countless hours every week together we're family but then if anyone else gives him shit i get very upset and i'm like fuck you you don't say that but i can say he broadcasts everything with his pants off and is a weenie for not doing the ray allen tweet. Yeah.
And also that he had a terrible showing in Mount Rushmore earlier this week. Yes.
What's in that? What's in that cup at your desk there, Jake? I'm watching you on TV. I'm wondering what's in there.
Yes. All right.
So unfortunately, well, football's back and with football comes injuries. So we're taping this in the afternoon on Thursday.
We just got news that Joe Burrow went down with a non-contact injury, holding his leg, and everything fucking sucks. Everything sucks.
Joe Burrow is – obviously, we are friends with him. He's a friend of the show.
But more than that, like anytime a big quarterback goes down, it sucks because now you have to look at the schedule and be like no offense to trevor simeon but we might be watching trevor simeon on a monday night or sunday night hank what are you gonna say you have an update yeah ian rapport just tweeted uh zach taylor tells reporters that qb joe burrow suffered a calf strain oh okay so we're fine oh there we go we're good that's awesome okay so we're good yeah i was i was about to say everybody out there is hoping everybody out there is hoping that it's a calf because he was grabbing his leg trevor said i was about to be like this this sucks because now we're going to get 20 more mike florio articles about how kaepernick would be a good fit on the bank poor trevor simeon is just minding his own business joe burrow gets a little calf strained and we start the show being like well now we have to fucking watch trevor simeon again so uh trevor simeon doesn't want to play any more than you want to watch him play trevor simeon's got a great gig going he's going to be a backup for life yeah he's got he's got the dream job so he's got every every guy's dream job is Trevor Simeon's job. So thank God.
And it looks like Jalen Ramsey also is going to be okay. But there's nothing worse than the first few days of camp seeing that video.
Like it's usually some media person who's standing 150 yards away being like, oh, no, cart's out. And then you have to make all these wild decisions and uh ideas pop in your head watching like a player like a little dot off in the distance like limping off the field yeah it's good i'm glad that it looks like a calf strain that way we can make some jokes about it so i did i checked twitter to see who was the leader in the clubhouse with the as a blank fan right now browns fans absolutely killing it with class right now browns fans left and right on the internet are saying as a browns fan i hope it's not serious as a browns fan you hate to see this happen even inside the division showing you know true humanity even though they root for a different football team still going out there and saying i hope that you're not severely injured so uh shout out to the browns being, very classy.
They're doing the Drake when he found out that Kevin Durant popped to his Achilles. They're like, oh, no, no, man.
Come on. No.
God, no. I do, though, respect Chiefs fans.
And it's obviously just one fan. You can't judge the whole fan base off of one tweet.
But one Chiefs guy replied to me and was like, oh, well, so sad. Chiefs to the bowl again.
And it was just a picture of Patrick Mahomes. And it's like, you know what? Like I like that the Chiefs fans can maybe get to their next level of just being the hated fan base.
Like you should embrace that. Embrace being the heel knowing that you have Patrick Mahomes for the next decade.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh oh this is a good one right here um it's from a Ravens fan even as a Ravens fan you hate to see this happen hashtag Joe Burrow hashtag who day hashtag Bengals when you got a division rival using your team's hashtag you know that it's class right there that is class that's ultimate class either way uh good that joe burrow seems to be okay hopefully this doesn't age poorly other nfl news uh aaron rogers what a guy probably the greatest guy ever i'm so happy that i've never said anything bad about aaron rogers he took a 35 million dollar pay cut for the jets uh basically a big fuck you to the packers i think i officially have like no ill will towards aaron rogers anymore this one cemented it for me so so he took 35 million dollars this year but how much does he get paid next year it's like 38 million next year 1 million this year oh i thought it was more than 38 million next no because he gets it all in a signing bonus he gets like a 35 million dollar signing bonus this year and he gets his salary is going to be like 1.8 and then next year it's 38 either way it gives i would love to take a pay cut like that is that a pay cut it it was just getting your money up front no he was set to make over 100 million dollars like his existing deal he could have just rode that out he took a pay cut dalvin cook's already in at the jets facility taking taking a tour Aaron Rodgers I've I've always liked the guy I don't know what to say like he's just a great guy he's a consummate professional teammate always the team first just what probably I'll say it right now maybe he's got to win a couple games for the Jets but when he goes to Canton he might go in as a Jet so I saw Tyreek Hill say that the other day that he's going to go in as a dolphin i don't think in the nfl you go in as anybody i think that's baseball isn't it yeah i think it says it underneath who you played for yeah like list your team but it's fun to ask people like who what are you going to go in as if you make the hall of fame my guess is that aaron rogers just saw the taxes that would come out of his paycheck and be like you know? Some of that money is going to support gain of function research in Wuhan. So I don't want to fund the CDC.
So don't actually don't pay me anything. Sick of the Ukraine war.
Yeah, exactly. He's playing checkers.
No, I mean, it is cool. And it's funny how we see the media treat different athletes that decide to take certain pay cuts.
Like I saw Florio got up in arms about patrick mahomes and how patrick mahomes is like very underpaid even though if i kind of agree with mahomes that if you're getting paid 40 million dollars a year or 50 million dollars a year probably not that big of a difference in lifestyle right especially in kansas city in kansas city yeah you own like you max it out you're both right that's all you're allowed to get paid there's nothing more you can buy you've bought everything you need in kansas city at 40 million dollars yeah he owns every jet ski that you can take off to the ozarks in the summertime for a couple weeks but aaron rogers what a guy who would have thought he's uh he's a great he is an all-time jet all-time jet that's what i'll remember him as mr jet is what they're calling him and it is a fuck you to the packers because the the last few years has been obviously not great where you know he's been at odds with the front office getting these big mega contracts and then he goes to the jets for two months he's like yeah you know what pay me less that's cool yeah it's very funny and erin does have that revenge spite element to him where that 100% factored into him taking a pay cut. Are you guys coming around? Well, they gave him his wish list.
But Aaron Rodgers who feels slighted is a very dangerous Aaron Rodgers. I'm still not coming around because it happens so often where you see quarterback change teams or a big-name player change teams.
And I'm not saying he's not going to be great next year i'm just saying there's it's different it's very different for him especially since his offensive coordinator is apparently the worst nfl head coach in the history of the nfl according to sean payton did you see that interview yes sean payton did payton is back at it sean payton is officially a hundred percent. All the headlines are going to be about how he said that Daniel Hackett did the worst job of coaching in the history of the NFL.
People are going to talk about that. To me, that was not the best part of the story.
Did you read the rest of it? Oh, yeah. He's up to his old tricks.
Sean Payton basically is a film director. He's like Quentin Tarantino.
And he's got like a staff of people who are in charge of editing together motivational videos for him to show to his team. When he was on the Saints, he showed them rats getting their neck snapped by rat traps to remind them not to take the cheese.
He's a big video guy. So he has his assistant, Paul Kelly, cue up a nature documentary that showed baby iguanas under attack from running snakes immediately after they hatched.
And the video captured how some of the iguanas survived by dashing to an oceanside cliff. Others were just eaten by snakes.
And Peyton pondered showing what he called a creepy video, but he wanted to hammer home a point to his players of you have to hit the ground running. So to do that, he showed his team baby iguanas getting chased by snakes and eaten by snakes, which it's awesome.
And then he also showed them a video where at the end it had the Denver Broncos training staff getting into a Ford Bronco, driving away. And then he had his film guy edit in a scene from planes, and automobiles where the car drives off a cliff so i'm not exactly sure what he's going for he killed the training staff from last year yeah well so yeah the the there was another part of this story so for anyone who missed it sean payton just basically did an open mic and just roasted nathaniel hackett said that he's never seen a worse coaching job saying he's also never seen an organization get embarrassed the way the Broncos got embarrassed last year, said there was 20 dirty hands.
It really was all summed up as it was kind of Sean Payton's way of saying Russell Wilson is not broken. Everyone else was broken around him.
So kind of setting the stage for Sean Payton fixing all of this. But they asked Robert Salah afterwards about this.

And I have to watch the video because maybe he said it smoother than I'm reading it.

But Robert Salah said, I kind of live by the saying, if you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.

So hate away.

Yeah.

It probably sounds smoother when he said it.

That's a song. Okay.
It is a it is a song yeah okay what is the song uh hold on oh thank you i know i know how it goes you ain't got no haters you ain't popping that's not his saying then he should have said as this person says you ain't got no haters you ain't popping haters are your marketing team yeah i love this though it's a coach it's a it's like we were day two of camp and sean payton was like fuck this i'm going scorched earth i don't care and they play week five yeah wait where was this attitude from robert salal last year when he was just saying like i'm gonna print out a cvs linked receipt of all the haters yeah and shove it down everyone's throat did the song come out in the last 12 months it's Rico Richie popping it came out eight years ago and what's the actual lyric if you ain't got no haters you ain't popping okay so I like the way Hank said it yeah well I was trying to say it as lame as possible because that's how I assume. That's a weird thing for a head coach to just drop on everyone.

But you're right, PFT. Robert Salah last year said he's going to print the receipts and shove it down our throats.
Yeah, he hated the haters last year. He was a hater in how much he hated the haters.
So something has changed. So I guess, no, that's good for us because as podcasters, we were hating on the Jets and hating on Zach Wilson.
So by him hating on us, that means that he's one of our haters. So we're popping.
Yeah, we're popping now. All right.
We've never been more popping this podcast. So, yeah, it feels good.
This is we're starting to get into the flow here. Hank's going to start getting mad at us for saying football is back on every episode from now until football is actually back.
We are, Hank. Like, football is back.
Oh, I know. Football is back.
I had the very dumb thought yesterday when I was watching the U.S. Women's National Team play.
We stink, by the way. Yeah, we're not good right now.
Stink. It was sick when she told her teammate to shut the fuck up, her teammate on her club team.
And then like two seconds later, headed in a goal. She backed it up.
Yeah. But we backed up.
But I had a very dumb thought when I was watching that game because it takes place in New Zealand. And I was doing the math.
And they're like, oh, it's 2 o'clock in the afternoon in Wellington. And I was like, wait, they're closer to football season starting than we are right now.
Yeah, they are. Think about it.
Yeah, they're right there. They're on the precipice.
So other football news, Colorado is going to be a Big 12 team. So Big 12 is basically torn apart the Pac-12, rated it for all its parts.
And I think this is like the Pac-12 is done. They're done.
I don't know who else is going to go to the Big 12. Pac-12 is done.
And you know that – do you guys follow that account on – I think it's on Twitter moments before disaster. And it's like sports stuff.
So it will be like a moment right before just a terrible, you know, like a grand slam or something. The Pac- commissioner, uh, yes, or two days ago in the PAC 12 media day said as far as, as far as what we have going on here.
Oh no, sorry. That's, that's Robert Saly wrote that down.
Uh, he said it's about realignment. It's not a concern.
Our schools are committed to each other in the PAC 12. We'll get a media rights deal done.
And I think the realignment as it comes to college athletics will be done as it comes to this cycle. And then it was like 24 hours later, Colorado to the Big 12.
Yeah, I mean, it makes, Big Cat, to your point, like what a disgusting job by a conference to raid a team like that and dismantle. It's disgusting.
Like can you imagine from a geographical standpoint, Colorado has to go play against West Virginia.

That makes no sense.

I can't think of any other conference in the country that would do something like that.

Well, the SEC did.

Like, Texas is going to have to play Florida.

That's weird.

Austin to Gainesville.

That's pretty strange.

Austin to Atlanta.

That's a tough hike.

But besides that, basically what we're heading for right now is there's going

to be one big conference at some point. And so we're readjusting the deck chairs on the titanic colorado is like yeah we're going to go to the big 12 but the reality is within the next 10 years i bet there's going to be one conference that has the top teams in it there might be different divisions inside that one conference but we haven't we have not yet begun to see realignment it's i was on uh we pft and i do a hit on pittsburgh radio we love those guys and randy bauman uh mentioned because i was talking to him about it this morning when i was on and he's like it's basically it feels like realignment is just like what's happening with uh you know netflix and all the all the cord cutting and cable tv and he's right because what's going to happen is the we're going to realign some more the pack 12 is going to be disbanded like the big 10 will have an east and west they're going to start with no division then they're going to do an east and west and then the west is going to be like ucla usc oregon washington and then they're they're going to say well why don't we just make our own conference

and then they'll just go back to the original we're gonna bundle and then we're gonna unbundle yeah then you're gonna have all the different you're gonna have too many bundles and then you're gonna have to unbundle some of them finland's gonna join nato it shit's getting wild yeah yeah so that was uh one of the pieces of college football news the other was uh probably the weirdest attempt at taking down a program I've seen in a while.

The minister. college football news the other was uh probably the weirdest attempt at taking down a program i've seen in a while the minnesota there was a report out of front office sports that pj fleck uh is run is has bad culture in his program and the it was essentially players saying they had to run uh penalties, which actually is illegal in the NCAA.

They made that illegal in 2018.

No coach has done it since then.

No coach has done it since then.

And then one of the greatest quotes I've ever seen with no irony involved

was a player, anonymous source saying about PJ Fleck.

He was making us say, forget about yourself as an individual.

I was baffled because it's not anything logical. If you forget about yourself, then who are you? You're part of a team.
The guy almost got to the point where he realized he was asking, PJ Fleck was asking everyone to buy into the team, but he just couldn't get there. I'm going to blow the whistle on all of football because this happens on every single football team at every age, every sports team, not every sports team, every basketball team, every baseball team.
And baseball is probably the one sport where you wouldn't need to have like a super cohesive team to be great. But you can look at company, every company, every, every time you do an orientation, when you start a new job and they try to get you to buy into the company culture.
Yeah, guess what? You're going to be spending eight hours a day of your life there. They want you on board with what they're trying to accomplish.
This is just – okay. So there's a lot of bad shit that happens in college football for sure.
A lot of coaches that do things that are above and beyond and they ultimately end up injuring their players. They end up damaging some of their players mental health all this stuff that does happen that happens from time to time at certain programs what's being described in minnesota is just basically this guy's like they made me play sports on the sports team yeah they and not only that but major division one college football is not easy guys who play in that are insane athletes, have an insane mental toughness.
It's not easy. I don't know if you expected it to be easy, but it wasn't going to be easy.
The only real question I have out of this whole thing is, is the Fleck Bank too big to fail? Because there was also part of the story that he has a Fleck bank and players paid money to the Fleck bank and if you had enough tokens in the Fleck bank you then could maybe uh like not have to take a a drug test so the Fleck bank sounds pretty it's it's a pretty sound institution as far as I'm concerned it's what you just described was fruit box yes exactly he made fruitbox. And if you know PJ Fleck, he definitely has a little bit of that Dwight Stroot in him.
Oh, for sure. None of this is surprising whatsoever that PJ Fleck developed his own sovereign currency that he uses to reward players that play within the system that he's created.
And it's not shocking to me at all, but what is shocking is that they wrote the article about this. Right.
The article. There's definitely better stuff to write about.
And I'm not the guy that's like, oh, look at this so much for so-called journalism. And you put the journalism in like scare quotes.
I usually hate it when people do that. But in this case, I agree.
There's a million more important things to write about out there than this the article was essentially pj fleck kind of annoying and and i think everyone if they had phrased that as the headline everyone would have been like yeah i kind of agree because there's another part i would have been like i read about that last week and no shit weekly yeah yeah right the the there was another quote where the players were saying anonymous players said there was only one acceptable answer when Fleck and other staff members asked, how are you doing? You had to reply, I'm elite. That's annoying.
Like that is an annoying thing. If you said, if you just said PJ Fleck, kind of an annoying guy who also wins some football games, the article would have actually, I think it actually might've taken him down being like, oh, he's annoying.
So some of the stuff that wasn't reported in this article is actually it's crazy uh there was one report that um that i read that pj makes his players always wear team logos and team issued merchandise when they're working out when they're participating in workouts when they practice when they walk around campus like they have to wear the minnesota m on their chest all the time isn't that crazy like no other school would ever do something like that it was it was the whole article was like this you just described the division one program because there was also uh fleck and others on the coaching staff were obsessed with players weight okay that's a football coach former players said they felt rushed to return from injury or didn't have their injuries treated appropriately sucks but that's also a football coach like i that does suck if they're trying to rush you back to injury from injury but i also think that every football coach in america is doing exactly that right this second yeah so if you're a good player and you get injured your coach is going be like, when can you play again? When can you play again? Because guess what? The faster you play again, the more likely it is that they get to keep their job at the end of the season. And if you're a shitty player and you get injured, guess what? Coaches are going to start to ignore you because they don't care.
That's just, that's the reality of college sports. That's the reality of sports in general.
This to me, if I put on a conspiracy hat and i'm not saying this happened but it would make sense was there another coach in the big 10 that was just in the news for some bad stuff you think revels the source on everything in this i think revel i think revel found out he's in touch with another nerd that was mad that he had to run at practice and Ravel is like you should leak this you should put this out it's disgusting what he did to you they're hazing you pretty much this is this is a much better story I think Ravel put this guy up to this anonymous source to try to get a story out there he's trying to burn the whole big 10 down he's gonna go program to program just trying to find guys who had to run gassers after being off sides. I think I'm officially going to be a Northwestern fan.
That's going to be my Big Ten school. Okay, I got a question about that.
Yeah. You do have a team in Division I college football.
Yeah, but I just want to be a Northwestern fan to annoy Darren Revell. Okay, that's fair.
I'm all in on that. I'm all in on that.
That's the only reason I want to be more of a northwestern fan than darren revell i will help you do that just to piss darren revell off so i and northwestern listen i i do we we've had a good time uh at your program we enjoyed working out with you guys you got a great stadium great campus i have nothing yeah might get coach oh might get urban meyer uh but i have nothing against your. I will support you.
I will 100% root for you. I'll bet on you.
I'll watch all your games. But just know that I'm also trying to piss off Darren Revelle as much as I can.
And if you accept me in with your whole heart, more than you let Darren Revelle in, that would be great for you because you want Darren as far away from you as possible. Also, you can do the spin zone.
You are a new Northwestern fan. The old regime had a lot of problems.
I would never have supported that. Never, ever.
You are a clean slate, new regime. You are a true Northwestern fan.
You believe in the institution, not the coach that just got fired. I bleed purple.
Is that their color? Or do they have a special color of purple? They're purple. I, I, so I'm all in on this.
Um, I will just say it right now. Just being, you know, trust tree, uh, mental health is mental wealth.
If Northwestern beats Wisconsin and you celebrate, I will get triggered and very upset and it could break up our relationship. It would be very funny though.
No, I'm telling you right now, don't do it. No, it'd be very – I'm going to put my game of the year – I'm calling it right now, game of the year, Northwestern covering the spread against Wisconsin.
Book it. Okay, well, I'll just be a JMU fan, a bigger JMU fan than you because you have a second team.
Bring it on. Bring it on.
JMU you just got to division one and you already picked another team I love that's crazy that's bad that's bad you're bad sports town you're pre-triggered right now no you're bad pre-triggered about me putting a massive bet on northwestern to cover against Wisconsin you're a bad sports town right now because you have a division one your team you wanted your team to be a division one team for the longest time they finally got got there, and you're like, oh, I'm a Northwestern fan.

It's true.

That's a bad sports town.

Shut the fuck up, Hank.

You forgot your roots real quick.

No, no.

That's a bad sports town.

I'm a massive JMU fan.

Nothing will ever change that.

I'm Mr. Sunbelt this year.

So massive that you have room for another team?

Yeah.

That doesn't seem that massive.

When it's Northwestern, you have to –

Listen, the bandwagon's open right now at Northwestern, they're a local team you up big cat i moved to chicago okay i got to lay down some roots here i plan on living here for a very long time i can't wait to one day take my my future unborn children to northwestern games make it a family tradition i'm gonna put the flag out on my porch i'm gonna put northwestern it's gonna be the northwestern slash jmu house divided bumper sticker on the back of my car but it's just you it's just me yeah what half of your body gets jmu bottom or top penis my penis okay the penis goes to you to jam you okay that's a jmu yeah i'm all in though to get jaren revel upset you got to do the you got to do the mike tyson uh northwestern memory did the face paint you should do that for week one i will i will i will if they're playing at home i'll go out there if it's an 11 o'clock kickoff doesn't matter i'm there um they are building a new stadium it's gonna be sick yeah now that i joined there's all this money there's all this money going into the you have to donate i'm very happy i i will donate i will donate. I'll donate money.
Will you match? I will not match. Good question, Hank.
I will not match. I will not be matching.
Northwestern has more than enough money. They don't need any more.
This will bring me closer to Greeny. It'll be great.
It'll be great for the show. Will Bond? Yeah, all the big J's.
All your favorites. There was, we had another great Mike Tomlin quote today.
Ooh, you see that they asked about kenny and what they expect from kenny in terms of making making a progression here as his career develops he said we need this we need him to be what we need him to be facts fact that's a fact pat fryer muth is probably sitting in a closet right now trying to figure out what that actually is yeah it's it's the standard is the standard on crack. It's awesome.
Tomlin does. Sometimes Tomlin does talk like a magic eight ball.
Yeah, that's great. You shake it and you read it.
Yeah, he's a fortune cookie slash magic eight ball combined just walking around. He should actually do that.
He should pull out a little piece of paper out of his mouth at the press conference. Be like, all right, here it isny to be kenny yeah we need him to be what we need him to be um all right other sports stories shohei is staying at the angels uh backed it up with a complete game one hitter which is pretty cool but what the fuck are the angels doing yeah this is uh it seems like a bad idea well if you're the angels this is the one chance.
Every now and again, you've got to throw your fans a little bit of red meat and say, if we're going to make a move to go all in, this is the year that we're going to do it. And the Angels, like we talked about with the Orioles, if they traded Shohei, they get a King's ransom for him.
They're just going to develop more players and probably trade them too. Right.
This is probably the right move but also knowing the angels and the history of the angels the chance of it of it not working out is pretty high yeah it's it i i have to believe that there's a part of them maybe they've had discussions where shohei is going to resign with the angels because it does seem like he likes living out there he likes like jeff passan had a that was basically like he loves being out on the west coast he likes you know the angels and what comes with that so maybe he's gonna stay maybe this is just a way for him to stay which i'm cool with because i would rather him be on the angels than the dodgers or the yankees yeah 100 i was talking with titus the other day about about shohei and how it seems like nobody out there is a shohei hater no how could he might not be popping but that's what i was saying i was like somebody should be the shohei otani hater like find some deep metric about of how he's actually underperforming and just become the the skip to lebron of shohei otani are you saying we should do that i'm saying we should think about it. He went 0 for 5 today with two strikeouts.
After the pressure of the trade deadline gets lifted. He decided to go to the Angels, a team that has no expectations on it.
That's interesting. He took the coward's way out.
Is he afraid of the bright lights? It's a good question. If I was Shohei Otani otani i would be demanding demanding a trade to the

new york yankees or the los angeles dodgers that's just me though oh for five two strikeouts a bad day show for a bad day that's what they're calling them yeah uh okay should we get to our interview i don't think we have anything else we're gonna do our interview with leSean mcc and then we have Mount Rushmore of everyday activities that uh make you feel accomplished oh I had one last thing sorry did you guys see the Michigan fan probably the most cell phone of all time online so Michigan and Michigan State have been going at it because uh Jim Harbaugh who we fully back uh got suspended for four games and there's a michigan fan um i think she does content she has like 17 or 18 000 followers uh she tweeted hopping in the dm and saying you'll bash my head in when you see me in uh east lansing you're sick in the head lmao this is sad and someone replied at them, we want to out these fucking bums. And she put a screenshot up of a burner account called forest, forest, forest.
She forgot that in the screenshot, it says edit profile. So she was burner accounting herself to make Michigan state fans like look bad.
And then she just completely dunked on herself. It's a false flag operation.
It's a false flag operation. So I, this is, this is another sign.
Football is back. Hank, when the college football fan rivalry start kicking up, I saw Ryan day said that he wants the game to be not in the last week of the season.
Like people were, were chomping at the bit for that. it's great football is back that is sad though that ryan day would even say that it's pathetic it is really really pathetic that that game needs to be the last he sensed weakness with jim harbaugh's suspension was like oh let me take a shot here it's pathetic so he was trying to say that michigan isn't even that much of a rival to them where it shouldn't be a traditional last game of the season.
Is that the angle he was going for? I think the angle he was going for is that you always get penalized for losses later in the season. So having to play Michigan later in the season is a detriment to both teams.
So he's like, let's play week one. That way, if we all go, if we both go undefeated the rest of the year, it doesn't matter, which is also a coward's way out

because you just lost the last two years.

So it would have been, yes, that is a cowardly statement to make.

If Harbaugh had said that in the vein of like,

they're not even a rival anymore because we keep kicking their ass,

that would have been awesome.

Yes, that would have absolutely ruled.

Absolutely ruled.

Like, let's play Michigan State.

That's a real rival.

Let's play Minnesota.

Fuck it. Yeah.
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And without further ado, our special guest, LaShawn McCoy. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, two-time Super Bowl champ, one of the best running backs in the past decade plus.
It is LaShawn McCoy. Shady you for joining us um I want we have a ton of things we want to ask you but we might as well start with the thing that is in the news running backs getting disrespected and and where you're at on that because it feels like they're phasing you out yeah yeah it's tough man right now, man, right now to be a running back.
And I can't really understand, like, why. I was thinking maybe because, like, you know, it's like the new thing is to use two to three running backs to do one running back's job.
Some got to, you know, do the blocking and the short yardage and the other one's a catch. The other one's the first and second down running back.
So I can't really figure it out. I mean, because a guy like Josh Jacobs, who leads the league in yards last year, who's been productive every year he's been in the league, and they don't want to pay him.
And then a guy like St. Con Barkley, who's probably the best player on the Giants team, but you don't pay him, you pay the quarterback that's been below average or above average his whole career so it's puzzling it truly is man it just sucks because we're the only position where you could be super productive and then the next year they say oh you know what he had a lot of workload last year that's not pain so right yeah i don't i don't know what to do man and with josh jaco, it's a catch-22 because he bet on himself last year.

He's like, okay, you know what?

I'm going to do the right thing.

I'm going to participate in the programs.

I'm going to go in, act like I'm part of the team because I am.

Hopefully they'll do the right thing.

They'll compensate me moving forward.

And if not, worst-case scenario,

maybe you can get a good deal out there on the open market. But it feels like even if you try to do all the right things

as a running back right now, your options are going to be limited. Like we were saying the other day on the show, they should just get rid of the franchise tag in general.
It seems like the franchise tag is one thing that's done so much harm for the running back position. To prevent them from getting to free agency that one year sometimes makes a massive difference in a running back's career.
Yeah. You know, it's funny.
I seen him about, what, three weeks ago and we were talking about it and uh and he said that they didn't even offer him a contract i'm thinking like how the hell you don't even offer a contract to the leading rusher of the nfl and the only thing i told him was um i guess the issue i had was that they should have made a bigger chaos about it right every time we heard about saquon barkley or we heard about Josh Jacobs, it was just answers as far as, okay, well, there hasn't been a deal done yet. You know, nothing happened yet.
That's the only thing you heard about. And then they make tweets here and there.
When you want a contract and it's about that paper, it's about that money, you need to go, listen, ain't no friends. There ain't no homies.
The owner, you're not my friend right now. I need to get my money.
And money and it just started as soon as season was over he should have made a big deal about it either i want to be here i want to let the fans don't want to be here but they're not paying me no money and if they can't trade me i want to be traded like you got to make it uncomfortable for these people yeah no it's true because a lot of times especially with the fan pressure because fans come from a weird perspective where they're like,

well, I would get paid $10 million to play a game.

It's like, well, you're not good enough to do that.

I would play for free, Shady.

I just want to let you know.

I would play football for free.

I'd actually pay them.

Give me 400 carries per year.

I'll do it for free.

I'd pay them.

See, this is the thing, though.

If Chris McCarthy's making $16 million a year, right,

and I'm the lead in Russia, I mean, let's say if you don't pay me $16 million, you can't pay me $10 million. You get what I'm saying? You can't just pay me $10 million.
Well. Because it's your worth.
Yeah. Christian McCaffrey, though, and this is something that made you different in terms of a running back.
Catching the ball has become so important where do you think that's going to be a thing with running backs, especially, you know, in youth football and then in the college, high school level where it's like you have to be able to be a dynamic catcher to be able to get that big bucks because that's the difference with Christian McCaffrey is that he's split out wide. He's doing all these different things similar to what you were doing.
You know, you were so good catching the football and making plays. If you're just a traditional running back from the 90s, like it doesn't work anymore.
Now, you're right. I mean, you look at Alvin Kamara, he's at the top of the charts with Christian Cavendry.
They both are similar in catching the ball. So that does make a point.
I just look at like how you utilize and their production. Like Saquon Barkley, right, out of all the NFL on the offensive side of the ball.
He was ranked fifth among like yardage yardage for his offense. So I'm like, damn, if you're if you're 28 to 30 percent of the offense.
Like basically you, you basically the offense. Right.
Why don't you get paid? You get what I'm saying? like that's the part where you have like a backup wide receiver the number two or number three making more money than the starting running back that's not just a regular running back one of the best in the league that's the only part that i can't agree with as far as if you could run the ball and catch the ball but if you're just productive right if you just flat out i'm a baller you see You see what I'm saying? Yeah. They got to pay them guys, though.
No, we pointed that out, and I think you actually pointed out as well when you were on TV. But, like, it's the fact that Daniel Jones, if you asked anyone who's a better football player, and it's no disrespect to Daniel Jones, but if you asked anyone who's a better football player, Saquon Barkley or Daniel Jones, everyone would say Saquon Barkley.

But the quarterback position gets paid at a completely different stratosphere

than every other position on the field. See, you're totally right.
And I think it should be more of like, all right, well, let's pay players. Because I know it's a market thing.
You got to pay what's in the market, right? But a guy like Daniel Jones, like, where do you pay him? Because where he's a lot of that, I don't think he deserves that. You get what I'm saying? i think we need to pay

you what's in the market, right? So a guy like Daniel Jones, like, where do you pay him? Right. Because where he's a lot of that, I don't think he deserves that.
You get what I'm saying? I think we need to pay these players off of what their true value is, not what the market says. Because the markets will tell you not to pay Saquon or pay Josh Jacobs.
Yeah. But his production tells you.
It's just not fair. It's not fair to the players that have gone out there.
It's robbery, bro. But life isn't fair.
It's the shitty thing where it's like, it's robbery. It's not fair.
But the way that the salary caps are structured right now and what NFL GM believe they can do in the draft, in their mind, it's like, well, I don't need to pay a running back who, I mean, in their eyes, if you old it's like ew that's that's old you know like in reality you're a young guy still you're in your physical prime but with running back sometimes that production drops off so sharply so i understand why they're doing what they're doing but at the same time i can say that sucks yeah it sucks and it isn't fair i don't know if you put together a bunch of money in a performance pool

where guys, based on their actual production,

they get to dip into that if they have a big season

or if it's like you eliminate the salary cap.

Or me and Big Cat talked about the running backs getting together,

unionizing, all agreeing not to block.

Yeah.

So that way your quarterback is going to get hurt.

Yeah, yeah, no chipping. The only thing about that is like you be friends with your with your with your teammates yeah they probably sometimes it's like the players or against the management you feel like that sometimes you know i mean so you don't want to hurt your friends but but i will say this maybe it's the thing of like um in the nba so like certain players they get a contract but but if they make first team all-NBA, right, or they may get an MVP, you get more money.
I think it should be the same thing with football. All right, well, running backs, they're not valuables the same.
So how about we go out and improve it? If we have a certain type of year, we are allowed to get this side of money. You get what I'm saying? Yeah.
The incentive contract. Because if you look at the top two to three running backs are at like 16, I think like 15, another like 13.
But then because the franchise tag is the average of the five highest paid. So after them three, the 16, 15, I think it's like another 14 or 13, it goes down to it goes down to like 11 12 10 that's why the number for the franchise tech is so small because of the last three guys you know in the top five yeah or yeah or maybe with the quarterbacks they could put together go fund me and the quarterbacks could take some of their money and be like we're gonna do the right thing pay the running backs daniel jones knows in the back of his head.
Tom Brady would do that. Tom would do that.
Tom would do that. People would do that.
It's like – Patrick Mahomes would do that. Or it's like you ever go out to eat and on the receipt that they give you at the interview meal it says we've added a 5% service charge to pay for cost of living or health care for the servers that served you tonight.
If you don't want to include that, just let us know and we'll remove it. They should put that on the quarterback's contract and make the quarterback opt out of paying you guys extra money.
That's a great idea because we do block for the quarterback. And then the two guys I named, Josh Allen, Tom Brady, would definitely do that.
Now, I'm not sure if Drew Brees would do that. Yeah, yeah.

You know his backstory.

So you just listed a few guys.

You played with Josh Allen.

You played with Patrick Mahomes.

You played with Tom Brady.

Rank the three of them.

Good question.

In terms of guys.

Oh, just like people?

Well, you can rank them however you want.

We're going to cut that part and just put out here are LaShawn McCoy's rankings

of these three guys.

Rank them actually in terms of height.

Rank them in height.

Okay. I would go

Tom Brady's the GOAT. No, no, no.

How tall they are. Physically,

how tall they are. Oh, tall? Yeah, yeah.

Tom, he's the tallest. Tom is? Are you sure?

Yeah. Josh? Tom, tall.
Alright, so number one, Tom. Number two? Is Josh.
He's second tallest. Okay.
No, you can't say. You just ruined the clip.
You ruined the clip. I need to see your advanced metrics on this, LaShawn.
Yeah, I just want you. I want to have a clip of you saying Tom Brady, Josh Allen, one

Tom Brady, two Patrick Holmes, three. Then we can put it out and be like, look at LaShawn McCoy.

This is how he ranks the quarterbacks. And everyone gets mad.
They're like, Josh hasn't

won anything. What the hell? Right, right, right, right.
Okay. We're tricking you.
No, no, but what

the three of them, like that is an incredible trio. Uh, is there one thing about them that is,

you could notice that is the same, like the, the way they practice or the way they carry themselves the biggest i think uh similarities from all of them they are super competitive come on it's funny like like josh i was with him first and like um we would, games like basketball. And he ain't no small joker.
You know what I'm saying? He's out-boying trying to lay it up. And I was like, wow, this dude's a super competitor.
Then I went to the Chiefs. And to see how Patrick Holmes, like, Patrick Holmes is a nice guy.
Don't get me wrong. All the commercials and he's smiling and playing.
But when it's on, he's fired up. He's the competitor.
He hates to lose. That's probably the first time I've been around the team where, like, we could be down, I don't know, 25, 27 points, 30 points.
He don't mind. His ass is the same vibe.
He's a competitor. He knows he's going to win.
And then I think Tom, he's the ultimate competitor. He's older than everybody on the field, coaches included.
And he has that kid drive to be outside. We're in Tampa.
It's hot as hell out there, and he's excited. Right? He's 40.
I'm like, this dude's 40 plus. And hate to lose.
Hate to lose practice. Hate to lose anything.
Card games. Great personality, though.
Nice guy. But they all have that drive to win, and they're all competitive as hell.
hell yeah it is funny because it is cliche to be like they're so competitive but i do think there is a difference where if you pulled every locker room the nfl there are some quarterbacks that they don't care about losing on in a practice in a practice right or the losses jake cutler oh don't say that that's my guy come on's my guy. Come on.
Stop it. But, you know, it's true.
Yeah, no, but of course. But listen, there are definitely, yeah, there are guys who, like, the losses don't hurt them as much.
But those three guys, it seems like the losses just absolutely eat them, like, alive every time they lose a single game. Yeah, for sure.
A lot of them dudes we're talking about, like, they hate to lose, bro. bro.
That's the first thing that jumps out. I was like, wow, they want to win at any cost.
Especially Tom. Tom's like...
I mean, he was like 45, still contemplating if he's going to play again. I'm like, dang.
He love this shit. He love it.
He probably could. Yeah.
Is it okay if I gas you up real quick? I want to gas you up. Gas me up.
up. Why not? All right, gas Shady up.
You were the best running back in the history of the NFL in the snow. Watching Shady in the snow.
The Lions-Eagles game? Oh, all of them. All of them in Buffalo.
He's going through, like, there was one game where there was, like, 18 inches of snow it looked like on the ground. I used to always do the thing where you'd get tackled and you'd get up and there'd be snow pouring off your face mask.
I would put a meme on it and just say, I fucking love cocaine. Because it looked like the cocaine bear with all that snow dripping off his head.
But I loved watching you in the snow. What was it about you playing football in the snow that gave you a competitive advantage that other running backs sometimes don't seem to have? I'm from Pennsylvania.
No, no, no, no, that's not why,

because I never played in the snow before that game.

I don't know what it is.

It's more of a, I guess it's a confidence thing.

I don't know.

I've trained with, like, a lot of great running backs,

trained with a lot of average running backs,

and I always would be confident that no matter who I'm training with,

because, you know, like, you hang out with guys.

So, like, we might be in Miami,

and we might hang out the night before or whatever,

and all the guys come train.

It's in Miami.

Are you in L.A.?

Thank you. that no matter who I'm training with, because you know, like you hang out with guys.
So like we might be in Miami and we might hang out the night before or whatever.

And all the guys come train.

It's in Miami or you're in LA.

All the guys running

must train in LA.

So when I would train

with these dudes,

no matter who it would be,

I knew my footwork

would be better than everybody's.

That was just like my thing.

So I pride myself on snow,

sleep, whatever it is,

rain, not slipping,

being able to run on any surface. Short, choppy steps.
Yeah. Yep, yep.
Don't never get outside like the center, like, you know what I'm saying, like legs, shoulder width apart, never getting too wide, stuff like that. Two more running backs up.
Y'all don't want to hear about boring stuff. 217 yards and two touchdowns in that game against the Lions on 29 carries seven and a half yards carry that was an unbelievable game and they and they pulled me early yeah yep yep kelly we had issues with certain times you know i mean he would take me out all right so yeah yeah let's talk about chip kelly real quick because i'm you you played for obviously andy reed two times um and then you played for Chip Kelly.
What is it about – I still think Chip Kelly is a great football coach, but there are certain guys that, you know, for whatever reason, going to the NFL, it just doesn't work out. What was it with Chip Kelly in the NFL that was different where you're like, this is not going to – the guys just don't hear the message the same way?

The issue with him, what I realized is that what great coaches have to be,

this is why Belichick, well, other than Tom Brady being gone,

but he can't understand people, right?

He can't understand the players.

Sure, head coach is your system, but you still have to be able to adapt to the new culture. Andy Reid is the best.
I got him when I was 20 years old. I was with him.
And he was wearing the old pony sneakers. Remember that? Yeah.
When I got one with the Chiefs in 2019, this guy had on Air Force Ones. But I'll tell you that story because he's adapting to the new culture.

Right?

So how can I be a great coach if I can't understand my players?

Chip Kelly couldn't read the room.

He couldn't read his players.

Some dudes like Gold Teeth with dread.

Some guys like ball heads with whatever it is, rock and roll, hip hop.

Andy Reid, he always just said, hey, listen, guys,

I want you to let your personality show.

Every game he would say this.

He said, be smart and let your personality show and have fun.

Here we go. Andy Reid, he always just said, hey, listen, guys, I want y'all to let your personality show.
Every game he would say this. He said, be smart and let your personality show and have fun.
He's telling that because he wants you to be yourself, right? Chip Kelly has so many rules. He don't want guys wearing black socks.
He don't want guys listening. If you don't have your headphones on, you can't listen to music or you can't drive your new car to the game.
It's like, my man, we try to play football. They pay us money to play.
They got fans. It's simple.
He couldn't understand that. And that's what the issue with him is because, like, every – I mean, nobody really liked him on the team.
Yeah. Are you saying that players don't like it when their head coach collects their piss every day and then analyzes it? That's another one.
Yeah. I thought it was a bit weird.
Yeah. You know what I mean? it's weird it's definitely weird every morning at like 7 a.m he have he have these little guys running around here like his runners and they would say hey shady good morning the same routine every morning hey shady good morning i'll look at him i'll be like what's up bro i'm gonna eat your piss i said look man it's 7 a.m i ain't get the drink yet see me at 8 30 I'll be like, what's up, bro? I'm going to eat your piss.
I say, look, man, it's 7 a.m. I didn't get to drink yet.
See me at 8.30, I'll have piss for you. Yeah.
It's weird. Nobody wants to see that the first thing when they come into the office.
All right, piss for me. Yeah.
It's a strange. What would he do with your piss? Did he just collect it or did he use it for anything? He would collect it and then they would see how much hydrated you are.
And then another thing is he would do this. He would like, they would tie this thing like a monitor or meter on our chest for like, you gotta lay down for like two minutes to see how much hours you slept last night.
And at the time, like 23, 22, I'm like, look man, I ain't getting no sleep. I've been at the club all night.
I'm sleepy as hell.

We know the famous party that seemed like a good time.

Females only.

Females only.

I see y'all been doing your homework.

That was just us living during that time.

Hold on.

Can I tell you about that?

It kind of got a misunderstanding. So I had a whole bunch of ball players coming.
So this was the Eagles. So I had six new players coming.
I invited a couple guys from the Flyers. I had some Phillies at the time coming, right? I had my own friends.
I had different rap artists come from Philadelphia, come from New York. So it was a ton of ton of guys right it was no more need for no more brothers in the spot you get what i'm saying yeah so we said look when y'all come here all ladies only listen and it was it was at one of my houses so i didn't want any randoms you know popping up i think if it said if it said ladies only on it that would hit different females only was like oh that's very funny females only yeah let's go yes it also like i remember when it happened i was like are people forgetting like that they went to college because that definitely happened in college we're like oh can we come through it's like was it you and a bunch of dudes no like that's how you go to a club if you go to a club with 10 dudes you're not you're waiting in line for five hours if you go to a club with 10 females you're getting right in right away yeah i messed up because i let one of my good friends i let him uh run like the uh the party and stuff and he's been divorced four times so i should have knew better like you know what i'm saying he's been divorced four times like come on you should have known that yeah wait so i want to go back to something because so a couple things you're on tv now you're doing a great job there's rumors that you might be skip's new co-host um yeah what's your thoughts on lebron james let's start there he's one of the greatest players of all time okay so you could probably get the job because that's that's what you need you need to be against skip on that um you are i love it i love the eagles all the time leading.
I love the Ingles. He likes Dallas.
He likes Dak and other guys. So yeah, you have some spicy takes and I appreciate a good take.
Can I read a couple off that you just can sound off? Say what you guys say. Well, no, it's what you had to say.
You said LeSean McCoy said dac prescott is ass uh leSean mccoy calls the idea bill belichick's greatness bullcrap um these are these are good takes i like calling a player ass yeah you can't debate ass yeah they are a lot of these are just honest yeah that the dac was more he's playing like he's playing ass okay he's playing like ass yeah but if But if you're Skip and your co-host says Dak Prescott is ass, there's no coming back. What do you say? He is not ass.
Yeah. He's actually not.
You can't debate against that. You just brought him down a level.
That's brilliant. Come on, man.
I'm about to get a job right now. That's what it's kind of like.
You also said if anyone left you off the 101 best players in the NFL list, you called them a sucky nerd. I like that.
Anytime a player calls – I said that? Yeah. Anytime a player calls like a list or a writer a nerd, I'm all in on that.
That's very funny to me. I just – I always chuckle because it's like, yeah, like we didn't play professional football, so what the fuck? Like we can talk about it, but if a professional football player is like, you guys are nerds, I'm like, yeah, okay, fair.
Nah, nah, see, sometimes with these – are you reading tweets? Are you reading just my – Just all these headlines, yeah. Yeah, see, some of that would be like, it's what's going on because when I said that, I remember the first time I was like, I think a rookie, and we got rid of Westbrookok and they were like, oh, what are the Eagles going to do now? The running back game's going to suck and this and that.
LeSean McCoy was not that good. So I read it and I went to approach the guy that wrote it.
And then when I seen him, he had a whole big gut. He had these big glasses on.
I'm like, hold up. This is a nerd.
I'm not about to argue with this guy. You know what? That's your opinion.
I'm going to keep – So after that, I've never argued with anybody in the media about their opinion because he taught me a lesson. Like, how you going to tell me about running backs? You know what I mean? Yeah.
No, I like – He's calling a guy a nerd is another one. Like, ass and nerd.
You said – You're winning these arguments. At PFF, you guys suck a bunch of nerds who have never played a lick of football in your whole life.
That checks out to me. Yeah.
But the counterpoint is you ever go to a restaurant? Do you know which restaurants you like, which restaurants you don't like? Yeah. Are you a chef? Yes.
Oh. Okay.
All right. Well, that's my only point.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
You're good at this debate thing. No, you're.
I'm throwing everything I got at you right now.

He's got great taste.

Anybody ever play it with me?

They'll tell you I'm one of the best debaters of all time.

Yeah, okay.

You had one last one for the Skip Bayless.

We're pumping you up because I want to see you going up against Skip Bayless

because we also would love to just feed you information, oppo research.

But this one's from –

Do you guys like Skip?

I do.

I respect him. I love Skip Bayless.
Yeah, yeah i respect what he does he pisses people off a lot of people don't like him well he he basically is his job is to make people not like him so he's really good at his job but either way uh this is just a random tweet from 2013 skip baylor said payton is doing what payton always does talking talking about a Broncos game, but Noshan is killing the Cowboys, and you just retweet, quote-tweeted it and said, Noshan sucks. So you can debate.
You go right to it. A lot of times, guys will talk around it.
You just go right to it. Yeah, you know what? I guess I'm just too honest sometimes, right? And then I have, I I won't say we're players, but sometimes they're like, hey man, Shady, take it easy on my teammate.
And I'm like, hold up. What did I say about your teammate? Because I'd be forgetting what I'd be saying.
Well, you called him trash last week. I say, well, was he trash? And they'll laugh at me.
Every time I see a Cowboy fan, I can be anywhere in the world. They'd be like, stop talking about my Cowboys.
And the next question I'll say, what's the reason why y'all can't win a championship? I say, don't tell me nothing about no front office. I want to know about the players.
Do you know the first player they say? No. Dak Prescott.
Yeah. So I can't be making this up.
Yeah. No, you...
I think that you need to be opposite Skip Bayless. I think it's a worthy foe.
Yeah. One last question for the Skip Bayless test, though.
What are your thoughts? You played with him, I believe, Tim Tebow. Man.
Which Tim Tebow, college or pro? Pro because Skip thinks that he could still play. Skip thinks he could roll a ball out there with Tim Tebow.
He'll win the game. Stat line might not be pretty.
He's going to win. Tebow's bad, bad, man.
You've got to be a desperate team to get Tebow. Yeah, you are.
He's honest. Are you really believing? If you take Tebow, it's like you're just a great guy or you just love Jesus Christ.
Because playing ain't the issue. He just, I don't know.

He's not the good, he's not the best.

I'm trying to be nice.

No, it's fine.

It's honest.

That's the other thing that Skip would disagree.

He's the only person in the world that thinks LeBron James sucks at basketball and that Tim Tebow was really good in the NFL.

Also, look at this.

Look at this.

I don't know.

Can we zoom in?

This is Skip Bayless shirtless.

So...

Oh, hold up.

Now, he's jacked up. It didn't work out, though.
Yeah, no, he's jacked. He's jacked up.
He jacked up. Yeah.
He got to put his doors on. He going to work out every morning.
Yep. I think you'd be great at this job.
That's my screensaver. I think you'd be great at this job.
So I want to go back to your playing career real quick. And so everyone talks about the Wildcat offense and they talk about the Dolphins, but you were running it at Pitt like the exact same time.
When you guys started doing the Wildcat at Pitt, did it feel kind of like cheating? Or was it like the best thing ever? Because it really did fuck defenses up for a while there where no one could figure it out. And it was awesome.
Those first few months when everyone was like, what the fuck is happening? Like the running back is running out of shotgun? This isn't fair. How awesome was that feeling when you unveiled the Wildcat at Pitt and you were just running all over people? No, I loved it, though.
I mean, you typically do it when your quarterback's not that good. So we didn't have a lot of good quarterbacks.
So we ran the ball all the time. So we had to find different ways to run it.
And the Wildcat is the perfect way to run the ball because now you gain an extra blocker because now i'm just running the ball i'm getting the ball direct snap and when you set up the blocking schemes with the quarterbacks you can never really block an extra guy or you know so now you put the quarterback all the way out far out and everybody else is just blockers so um i loved it yeah i loved it a lot it does seem like a fun fun thing to do like a change of pace for running back. We were gassing you up earlier, telling you how great you are.
We've done enough of that, I think. Why did you carry the football like a loaf of bread? Did you never learn ball security, Shady? I must have had bad coaches.
No, no, no. But look, it's Andy Reid's fault.
Okay. See, this is the example of knowing your players your players.
My first training camp, I had the ball kind of loose. And my running back coach running after me, hey, tuck the ball, tuck the ball.
And that's really natural. And Andy said, Andy will never yell.
He blew his whistle. He said, hey, let him go.
He called me over. He said, look, play your game.
Do what you all do. But if you fumble, we're going to change up your running style.

Now, I didn't really fumble the ball a lot, as you can see in my numbers.

So Andy Reid kind of got me playing like that.

Every time you ran with the ball, it was like, oh, he's going to fumble.

He's going to fumble.

And then you never fumble.

Yeah.

I mean, plus the defense is that smart.

You know, defense, they're taught speed ball, run that ball. Throw on the ball and then take it back.
Make a miss. Yeah.
I never thought about that. But, yeah, it makes sense.
You're basically playing the NFL being like, look at my thumb, G, you're dumb, and like hitting him on the side of the head. Right.
Touchdown. Touchdown.
That's how it works. Yeah.
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And now, here's more Shady McCoy. Have you seen any good movies recently that you want to spoil? Hey, yo, hold up.
Now that my son is of age, he always brings this up. Yeah.
For me, you don't know. Yeah.
All this YouTube stuff, right? All this YouTube clips of me talking about it and people talking bad about me. He all the time brings it up.
Dang, why did you spoil the end game? You did. You did.
You tweeted. It was maybe 24 hours after the new Avengers.
And what was the tweet? Damn, they did my dog. It was RIP my dog, Tony Stark.
Yeah, and everyone was like, what the fuck, dude? So what did you – when it happened, when you hit send and then, like, you went back and looked at your phone, were you like, whoops? Or were you like, no, fuck it. I just saw a movie.
I wanted to pay respect to Tony Stark. If it was today, I wouldn't have did it.

I just, I guess I was dumb at it.

I was dumb at not knowing how big that movie is.

I don't really watch.

I don't even want to call them kiddie movies.

I don't watch movies like that unless my son wants to go watch them.

You know, that's why we're going.

Every time we would do, my son speaks very well, right?

Smart kid.

We always do interviews. Everything we do, after my games, he would interview me.
Dad, you fun with the ball, you know? So it was a thing we do. So after the movie, all movies, we do interviews with each other.
It's like a game we do. It just happened that that was one of the biggest movies that's been waiting and anticipated, and I'm the one that spoiled it.
I mean, I'll be in a grocery store. Old ladies, old men be like uh-huh shady was that shady mccoy i'm thinking like yeah it's me you want a hug want a picture why did you spoil that end game i'm thinking like oh so i wish i never did it yeah that's one thing i wish i could take back okay but for sure do you have another you want to spoil a movie for us, please?

One you've seen recently?

I just watched, what movie did you just watch, Sean?

Oppenheimer.

Mission Impossible.

Okay, what happened in the end of Mission Impossible?

He died at the end.

I'm lying, I'm lying, I'm lying.

He didn't die.

No, he didn't die.

Have you ever seen The Sixth Sense?

The Sixth Sense?

Yeah.

Oh, you have?

Shit.

Have you seen Fight Club?

No. Okay, there's the same character the entire time.
Brad Pitt and then the other guy. No, no, no.
I've seen Fight Club. I've seen Fight Club.
Did you see the episode of The Sopranos when Tony kills Christopher? No. Okay.
All right, when you get there, remember this moment because it was a fucking unreal moment. Tell me.
Yeah. And then at the end, it cuts to black.
At the end, when they're in a diner, and you don't know if Tony lives or dies. That's how the entire series ends.
Oh, okay. I do remember that show.
You should watch it. I love that show, though.
I'm big on mob movies. Yeah.
I'm huge on them, yeah, for sure. I mean, it was.
I loved the moment just because it was ultimate chaos on the internet. Yeah.
You just basically pulled the pin, threw a grenade on the internet, and walked away. Yeah, I wish I didn't do that.
You know what? My first – how about one of my teammates, Matt Barkley, was like, Shady, how could you? I don't know what he's about to ask me. I said, what? And at the like younger i'm like what he's like man the end game i said matt if you say one thing to me about this show movie where it is we're gonna have problems he left it alone but he really wanted to ask me like yo why'd you spoil it i didn't know it was that big bro i didn't know yeah i i never saw any of those movies so i thought it was funny yeah i like that's also probably wise we didn't watch it but if we were into we we probably wouldn't have done this interview i lost some money behind that i i had a deal with uh was alexis and we we get to the to the ink to sign the contract and somebody must have called down from the highest x i'm gonna hold up shady up.
Chaney McCoy. Oh, no, no, we can't sign him.
He's through the end game. I was so mad.
That's a true story, though. I lost that deal because of that game.
That's probably some rich executive son was like, no, fuck this. He ruined the movie for me.
You can't sign him. So you got cucked by probably a 15-year-old.
Got me. Good money too.
I didn't know that grown, a lot of grownups like green monsters running around. I didn't know it was, you know what I'm saying? I thought it was like a regular Spider-Man.
I didn't know. And also, I know now though.
That's so funny. And also RIP my dog, Tony Stark.
You were just trying to be nice. Yeah.
Pay respect. Pay respect.
He got the most swag, though.

Can we say that?

Tony Stark got the most swag.

A lot of swag. He got in there.

Got the ladies.

Got the – he witty with the words.

Mm-hmm.

Got a lot of swag.

Yeah.

Do you think you're a Hall of Famer?

They should have took Captain America, not Tony Stark.

Yeah.

Hall of Fame?

Yes.

Okay.

Pitch us because you said Julian Edelman, who's a friend of ours, is not a Hall of Famer, but you are. Another spicy take from LaShawn.
See how these people do me? I'm a friend of Julian Edelman, first of all. And the question was, I said, well, I don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
I think he's a hell of a player, though. Which he is.
Hall of Fame is like, you know, it's like the best of the – and I like Julian. So it wasn't like I was trying to hate on him, and they only show one part of the interview that I said it.
You know how they do that. Yeah.
They cut it off. Anyway, I mean, I would say, yeah, I mean, I got 15,000 on-purpose yards, right? I mean, I'm an all-decade running back.
I got some Proos, got some all-pros. You know, you look at my work collectively, like I was one of them guys.
Where you look at a lot of these other dudes, they're surrounded by a whole bunch of great players, or they got a million carries. That's not me.
I don't have a lot of carries. You know what I mean? And I was productive anywhere I went.
And I think that, you know, you add all my accolades. I mean, I got a Russian title to go along with that.
So, I mean, I think, yeah, I think of the guys that's in the Hall of Fame. If I had to compare myself to them, it's like, why not? You did end with exactly 15,000 yards from scrimmage.
When you were deciding to retire, did that actually play into it? Because it would for me. I'd be like, wait, I'm exactly on that number? Like, I'm sticking.
That's awesome. Yeah, it did.
You know what? I wanted to come back. I wanted to get 12,000 yards.
And I think I had Patriots, Jets, the Raiders, and some other team that weren't that good that wanted me. But I was like, man, I'm going to go there.
None of the teams are really good teams. And if I'm going to just get stats, I'm going to be the backup, so I'm not going to get a lot of carries.
So I'm going to add on to the yardage. But am I going to have fun compared to being with the Bucs? I didn't play a lot, but it was a fun team.
It was an older team. We all got along.
And we were going for a championship where the other teams weren't. So the yardage, I had the 15,000 and all the other accolades.
I said, I'm just going to retire. I had some TV stuff going on anyway.
So I just did it. I just said, I'm good.
I retired. What about a Hall of Fame moment? I mean, you were a great juker.
You had some of the best juk in the game do you have do you have a favorite juke a favorite move you ever put on somebody uh i got a couple man i own the jacksonville game i forget what year was uh 2014 and uh it was a play up the middle man i should like four four or five dudes they was like unblocked you know i mean we got of safety.'m just making a miss and then another one i got against um washington um in washington against uh d'angelo hall there was holding on that play though oh my god i hit it with the left right left right you know i mean i had a lot of good shakes though I like to have fun So I shake a guy, I'm like damn did you see that move How'd you survive that move You alright You know I mean you also had the great like cut on a dime For your Twitter handle That's as cool as it could get My brother gave me that that name. Luckily, it made sense.
Yeah. Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
And your mother gave you Shady, right? My mom did. Yeah, she did.
She said I was a Shady baby at times. Your vibes were off.
Not like that no more. But I was.
How so? You weren't vibing, it'd be like, you know, one moment I want to talk to my dad and be around him. The next moment I want to be with my mom.
And the next moment I want to be with neither. He's just so shady.
And then just carried over to, like, friends, you know, neighbors, teachers. Yeah.
It just carried on. It's like, this baby's got something else going on.
Yeah. I don't know.
I don't know where Zangle is. The vibe is off with this baby.
Smiling, just stop smiling, you know. That's old.
I ain't shady no more, though. I just admit.
I just wanted to read your high school stat line to you real quick. From 2003, you played in 10 games, and you had 2,561 yards with 28 touchdowns.
Then the next year, you played in 13 games. You had almost 3,000 yards, and you had 31 touchdowns.
How annoying was it for other teams to have to play against you? Were other parents were like, this isn't fair? Nah. Where I'm from, we got a lot of good football.
Michael Parsons is from my hometown. We got a lot of good football.
Ricky Waters parsons is from my hometown yeah i'm saying we got a lot of good ricky waters from my hometown right now shane gillis who shane gillis yes yes yes right now in my high school we got um two all americans in my high school wide receiver and quarterback the quarterback's probably the best player to ever come from from the-state. And that's saying a lot.
So, you know, we ballers. We got NBA.
We got women NBA players, right? We got players. So they're used to saying guys like me.
You know, I'm good, but there's some other guys that's probably better. Pennsylvania is football.
It is. Like, that stretch of Pennsylvania to Ohio, that's football.
5,000, 6,000, 8,000 come to watch me play.

You know, like, I remember Pete Carroll came to my high school to recruit me.

And when I was leaving out, after the game, I probably put up like 300 yards,

you know, something like that.

And he's like, man, I think he's about to tell me how good I did, right?

You know, he's like, I'm so impressed with the fans here.

Like, the fans. He had so many people here know, he's like, I'm so impressed with the fans here.
Like, fans?

He had so many people here for a high school game.

He said, I was so surprised.

I was like, well, in Pennsylvania, like, we play football there.

That's her thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you remember the best game you ever had?

In high school?

Yeah, or just in your entire career.

What's the best game you ever played?

I think I had tallied up to about, like, 500 yards, I think,

in a playoffs game against Central Dolphin.

Thank you. I think I had tallied up to about 500 yards, I think, in the playoffs game against Central Dolphin.
I think I had like 300 rushing, maybe 200 receiving, something like that, four or five touchdowns. We won the game.
I would hope so. That must have ruled.
But I'm not a stats guy, just for the record. Yeah.
Yeah. Not a stats guy.
All right, I had one last question. This has been awesome, LaShawn.

By the way, you are a recurring guest now, so whenever we want you back on, you have to come back. Bring me on, baby.

Let's do it. Yes, and this has been a lot

of fun. I'm going to try to pull along either

Skip Bayless or Manuel Acho.

We'll bring one of them guys with me. Manuel Acho

has me blocked, but that's fine.

He...

Yeah, me too. Yeah.

I can't remember what... Yeah, I blocked the...

Oh, yeah, because it was that

highlight tape he made of

So, I don't – You know what it is? That's why we got a good teamwork because when I'm wrong, he'll tell me. And if he's wrong, I'll tell him.
And it's still. Well, he's wrong all the time.
So, you have to tell him that, like, constantly. What did you think about when he said Sha'Carri Richardson shouldn't be allowed to compete in the Olympics? Because it's one thing for, like, a basketball player to smoke weed.
But if it's track and field and you could get high and then throw a javelin, you could kill somebody. That's what he said? Yeah, that's what he said.
Listen, Emmanuel Acho has some takes too. Like, I kind of respect his takes, even though you shouldn't block people, but he does have some spicy takes.
He gets the people talking. I'll say this about Acho, man.
He's really, really good at his job, I'll tell you that. And he's very intelligent.
But you know what? I will say this on TV. I'm learning.
Because I just think that people on TV is all tripping. But we all have little moments where we might say something that other people are not feeling.
Oh, yeah. I get it all the time.
You know? So I guess if I don't agree with that, with his take on Shakira, I don't agree with that. But that's how he felt, you know? All I ask is to stand on what people say.
Yeah. You get what what people say.
People say stuff, but then they see the person in person, the individual person, and then they act like they're insane. I'm like, hold up.
I've seen Justin Fields at Radio Row, and he wasn't eager to talk to me. I get it.
I said some things about his game. He don't want to talk to me, so I understand it, but just don't be like upset like why do you want to speak to me that's the only thing i hate when people have these outrageous or outlandish you know um statements about the game or players and etc yeah no it's it's absolutely fair and you're you're right i mean we built this entire show on being very dumb and having terrible takes so you're you're preaching to the choir that's funny though appreciate that yeah have a good time yeah yeah uh so my last question the roback question r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts i'm wearing the shorts right now best in the biz roback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase super comfortable clothes uh You played so many years in the NFL, so many different teammates.
Who's the best football player? Can't let's say no quarterbacks. Best football player you played with.
The best football player I've ever played with. Yes.
All right. I'm going to give you two of them.
My best teammate I ever had. Now, that doesn't make him my best friend, but my best teammate, a guy like Mike Evans.

Okay.

I mean, like, this dude's like a great person.

Like, buying stuff for the starters, buying stuff for the practice squad, everybody.

Like, holidays, Christmas gifts.

You know what I mean?

Who wants the ball?

Now, I want Antonio Brown, so he wants the ball. Right? Mike's like's like, well look man, if he wants the ball, give it to him.
I'm like, man. I'm used to wide receivers wanting the ball.
Mike was so selfless. It was amazing bro.
I've never seen a player like him. And I want to say my best player I've ever played with was no quarterbacks, right? No quarterbacks.
This dude named Jason Peters. Oh, yeah.
He's a office lineman. Yeah.
Beast. Beast.
Absolute monster. That's what I ever played with.
Playing against dudes like Bob Miller to DeMarcus Ware. When DeMarcus Ware was like that.
No double teams. He would yell at me if I would go chip block for him.
Getady, get your little ass away from here. That's what he would tell me.
Get your little ass away from here. And he would block one-on-one.
So he's probably my best player I ever played with. I think the second I had to give it to either Deshaun Jackson or Travis Kelsey.
Okay, good. Yeah.
I like, though, the offensive lineman pick because that always is, you know,

people don't give them love.

But when it comes down to it, I feel like those elite, elite offensive linemen,

when players talk about them, they're like, yeah, it's just different. It's different how they are, you know, when they're on the field

and what they do for the game.

He was so good.

Like when players get hurt, I check on him.

Hey, you cool?

You good?

All right.

Because we know guys don't miss games.

That's football, right?

Just get better, bro.

He's the only guy when he would get hurt.

Oh, you all right, man?

How you feeling?

How the ankle looking?

How's your back?

You good?

Because I knew if he was playing, I'm easy on getting 80 yards,

70 yards from just his side.

Right. You know what I mean? I had to make sure he was playing.
You need anything to drink? You need some water? He's the only guy that I made sure I knew what he needed, what was he doing on the offseason. How you feeling, big guy? You good? Because I know what type of player he was.
So he's probably the best player I ever played with. That's awesome.
You get to see him up close, especially in the screen game when you were really good at, like, selling, staying in for a little bit,

then turning around.

Then you get him out in front of you, and then it looks easy from that point.

And he's fast.

Listen, he used to play tight end in college.

He's one of them guys.

Yeah.

Played tight end.

Probably wasn't really that – like, he was good, but he wasn't a beast and then got gained some weight played tackle he had great feet he was quick he was fast get him on them screens he was dumping dudes with one hand he's so good he's still playing today yeah yeah yeah he is well shady this has been awesome i think you are uh absolutely ready for the Skip Bayless co-hosting job.

You have not only the takes, but even one thing you did that's very underrated,

just the random shot of Jay Cutler for no reason.

That's a sign of being like a media professional,

which I didn't appreciate, but that's fine.

But that is like – I feel like Jay gets more random shots

than any quarterback ever. So, yeah, you're ready for it.
You're ready for the job. You know what? I like Jay Cutler, though.
I think he's a hell of a player. I don't even know that.
I don't say that. No, you don't.
You know what I mean? I've been hanging out with Brandon Marshall too much. Yeah, you have.
And it kind of rubbed off for me. So, all the bad Jay Cutler takes I get from him.
So, it's like – you get what I'm saying. Listen, when he does the bad Jay Cutler takes, just be like, hey, Brandon, what was your favorite playoff game he played in? Ooh, see, that's a low blow right there.
Okay, but that's what I'm saying. I could learn from you.
Yeah, yes. Well, this has been awesome, man.
We really appreciate it. We definitely want you back on.
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No, Hank is point guard, but I'm still a role player. I forgot about you, Max.
I'm sorry. Thanks, Bill.
You're Ben Wallace? Sure. Ben Wallace was a great...
Yeah. Probably the best role player of all time.
You're Kenny Lofton Jr. Okay.
Yeah. Sure.
Thick in the paint. You're that kid from Division III.
Remember him? It was like 400 pounds. Oh, the guy that Zion was dunking on? Yeah.
No, no. It was a different guy.
No, Big Buffalo. Yeah.
I mean, he was nice. Big Cat, go one episode without calling me Fat Challenge.
I didn't last episode. Sickening.
My flip-flops. That was pre-show.
I said the flip-flops looked bad. Months ago.
Yeah, that was months ago. Okay, Hank, you're up.
All right, there's not a clear 1-1 of this in my mind, which maybe is incorrect. And I feel pretty good about, you know, not losing the Mount Rushmore, so I think I'm just going to go fast and loose here.
Okay. Showering.
Ooh. Nothing like a good shower.
There's nothing easier than taking a shower, and, you know know it doesn't matter what time of day it is if maybe you're like hungover you just sit on the couch all day take a shower at four o'clock it's the beginning of the day yeah that's good it's a whole new day fresh outlook on life it's like it's like going it's like a mental thing going into the phone booth yeah yeah you ever like uh taking a shower at night right before you go to bed yeah that's a feels good. That's a good feeling.
Yeah. Hop into a clean bed, your body's clean.
After like a long, hard day of podcasting. Yeah.
In the mines. You ever take a shower at night and then wake up and you're like, I still need to take a shower in the morning.
Just because. Oh, yeah.
What about the post yard work shower is a good shower. Yeah.
I don't understand. I think this was one of those memes, the red pill, blue pill meme from like maybe six months ago.
People who shower at night and people shower in the morning. We had this exact debate on the show.
Yeah. I don't understand for the life of me anyone who doesn't shower in the morning.
Yeah. You got to shower in the morning before you go to work.
Because it makes you feel accomplished. Then you go home.
Maybe you work out. Then you shower before bed.
That's totally fine. But I would feel like just doo-doo going to work without showering first.
Unaccomplished, would you say? Unaccomplished. Yeah.
Okay. Good pick.
I think we'll go with our one-one. That's a good one.
Yeah. Unsubscribing to spam emails.
One of my favorite easy tasks that just makes you feel awesome when you have your entire email inbox. Memes is shaking his head.
He's like, good one. Because you know that moment where you're like, gotta unsubscribe from some of these hit it do a mass one oh you feel like you like conquered the world but i feel like it never works these days they somehow find a way it works it has to i think that's outdated why because like most uh mail services like uh gmail filter those all out already that's.
If you buy like anything online, you get an email about it

for the rest of your life.

Yep.

Here's the first five things

in my inbox I just opened up.

I could do this all day.

Hymns, don't ask.

Peloton, Hymns again, don't ask.

Barstool Sports,

and then something called

GoFobo Screenings.

I think it's a movie thing.

I got Expedia.

This is great.

F45.

Yeah. Voodoo.
Okay. Swing pass golf.
No idea what that is. And Adobe.
Yeah. So it very much still is a thing.
Here's mine. I got, let's see.
I have Chicago Blackhawks Honey Grow. Evolve.
I don't know what Evolve is. Do you guys know what Evolve is? Paramount Plus Washington Post Nomad London Never stayed there Something called Valon You should unsubscribe From the Nomad London Coaching you Outernone It's bad Something called Coaching you is because of me I signed you up for a coaching symposium at the Final Four.
God damn it. See, this is what I'm talking about.
Something called Stephen Che, Instacart. It's just on and on.
I need to do it. I have to do it.
Okay. So, Billy, I don't know.
You're just not getting yourself out there. You're not signed up for enough stuff.
It is the ultimate buy a t-shirt online, sign up for it. And I know that you can click a box, but I always miss it at the end because they'll trick you with, like, terms and services and also that other box, and you'll just get emails forever.
I got one the other day that was actually, like, it was like they tried to reverse psychology you and to, like, click this. I forget how it was worded, but it was a way that was worded where it was like they wanted you to click it to get the emails knowing that people don't right right click here if you don't want to be bothered by not saving money yeah also uh a sub subset of this uh exact rushmore is is when you find the email where they make the unsubscribe like hidden and then when you find it you're like yes got it you fucking you fuckers tried to get me you know when they'll put it like really tiny font and like hide it in like somewhere in a paragraph yeah i just got one from trump it's time it's time to take america back he's back yep i bet you i'll get like three more in the course of this mount rush war okay yeah we're with those two i you want...
I don't... That's...
Yeah. It's a good one.
I don't think it's a good one. We stink.
Go. This one.
Cleaning up around the house. Just getting things tidy.
Your room. You know, like clean house, clean mind.
I think it needs to be more specific than that.

Cleaning up around the house.

Are you talking like dustpan?

Are you talking vacuuming?

Are you talking about counters? No, I'm just like taking off all the dirty clothes

and putting them in the laundry hamper.

Laundry.

Cleaning the dishes.

That's so many things.

I actually agree with Max on this.

Pick one.

Yeah.

Taking the clothes off the floor and putting...

Ah, shit.

Ah, fuck.

So we're getting vetoed no just like doing the laundry is one doing the dishes cleaning your room cleaning your room i was gonna suggest that that's a good that's there's multiple things that can be done like you're not no one's cleaning their whole house uh well you don't live in a house yeah he's also like uh sweeping up after your hedgehog that's part of cleaning your house yeah we're taking the taking the weights off the squat rack yeah the racking them yeah moving the weights from the squat rack so that you can cook eggs all right next one i think that's a good one billy okay go rogue he's going rogue that's not rogue i had it very rogue jake doesn't go rogue He's going very rogue. Calling her parents.
Yeah. That's a good one, Billy.
Okay, go rogue. He's going rogue.
That's not rogue. I had it.
Jake doesn't go rogue. He's going very rogue.
Calling her parents. Yeah.
That's a good one. That's a good one.
Because if you call them, it makes you feel good. It does.
Agreed. Keep in touch with them every day.
I have a reminder in my phone, 7 p.m., call the family every day. That's a very good...
Just in case I haven't. That makes me feel bad.
Every day? Every day. No, sometimes I screw it up, but it's just me feel terrible I need to call my mom can we take a break yeah my dad's definitely gonna text me yeah oh yeah Jake's Jake calls every day yeah I think it's I think it's important it is nice it is easy it's maximum sometimes 60 seconds but you should call your parents more than you think yeah they want to hear from hear from you.
It's easy. They have to be so annoyed.

Told you, Billy.

I can cook.

They have to be so annoyed.

He's cooking.

Sorry.

Let Jake cook.

Sometimes it's just not that easy. It's not that easy.

Ugh, not again.

Every single day.

Okay.

Yeah, you pick one.

I'll pick one.

Okay.

No, we're just...

Oh, yeah, we only have one.

We only have one.

I think we're going number 10.

I like number 10.

I think we get that way later.

Do you think so yeah yeah okay i like four four is the easy one four is good you you know what go go with what you want you know what i'm gonna go 14 okay i'm gonna go 14 okay do it yeah are these numbers Okay, do it. Are these numbers real? Yeah, they're all real.
Are these numbers real? They're all real. You just have a plethora of choices.
I love this one. I love this one for us.
Mowing the lawn. Mowing the lawn feels great.
Awesome. When was the last time you mowed the lawn? Yeah.
Great question. Listen, let's not be fucking big city boy elites.
We got a lot of listeners out there that mow lawns. Mowing the lawn is great.
That live in suburbs, that live in country. So this isn't pandering.
No, I'm just saying, you guys are thinking about just us. There's a whole country out there, Max.
It's easy tasks that make you feel comfortable. Yeah, and if you've ever mowed the lawn, it feels awesome.
I mowed man lawns. I've lived in multiple homes where I had to mow the lawn, and it's such a great feeling when you're done.
You look at your lawn, everything looks perfect. It's the best.
It's like taking a shower for your yard. Yeah.
Put it in terms you can understand. Also not that easy of a task.
Hank, Hank, it's pretty easy. It's pretty easy.
That takes, that takes a minute. It might be hard for a dummy like you.
And also if you're not weed whacking, if you're not weed whacking the edges at the end, like that's, it's a waste of time. Well that's good too.
Maybe, maybe do a little. But that's a whole task.
You can do weed whacking. That is not an, it's a waste of time.
Well, that's good, too. But that's a whole task.

You can do weed whacking.

That is not an easy task.

That is a chore.

That's a chore.

Weeding your backyard. So is cleaning up your room.

It's honestly pathetic how hard you guys have to try to find something wrong

with our great picks.

That's a good pick.

That's subpar.

You're so dumb, you don't know how to mow along.

I never mowed along.

That's a nice answer. You'd cut off your toes with those fucking flip-flops.
All right, we got two here. Whose picks are these? These are me and Max's.
Our first one is going to be doing laundry. Okay.
Good one. Easy.
Good one. Always feels good.
Picking the laundry off the ground, throwing it in the hamper, washing it. Yeah.
Good pick. Not easy.
Clean boxers, clean socks, nothing better. But also not easy.
I agree. It's time consuming.
You don't do it that often. I do.
Laundry, the actual act of doing laundry is like 15 minutes. You wait a while.
Talk about coastal elites. When I felt like I was making it in life, Because when we moved to New York, I would have to go to a laundromat.

Then I was doing laundry once a month.

That was when I just left 10 pounds of clothes in Brooklyn when I moved.

Once I moved into an apartment with laundry in my unit, that's when I was like, oh, I can do laundry all the time.

Yeah.

Felt like an absolute schnob.

We should actually do a Mount Rushmore life upgrades.

Yeah.

Because another one is my old apartment didn't have a garbage disposal. Oh, it nice i got one i was like this fucking rule i'm i will this is gonna be the first time i'll have in unit washer and dryer in my new apartment and it's gonna be a studio i'm thinking about not getting a laundry basket and all of my dirty clothes just go into the washers smart gonna last yeah no that doesn't that's smart but that's a good thought doesn't that sound smart i feel like i feel like it's not gonna last but what's the difference between your studio you're gonna have so many piles your studio apartment's gonna become your laundry yeah it's gonna be just piles everywhere i think it's gonna be clean i i needed probably it was in my in my budget was studio apartment i was like this was just gonna become a bomb scene if i move into this like if one room is my whole room yeah no scary stuff uh next pick going for a long walk nice oh we have that we got something better billy wanted going for a run when run is not a run is not easy at all we're not taking that's what i was saying to him okay like a walk is a good pick a run is not easy uh i have something similar, but I think it's different enough that it should count.

Walking the dog.

Very easy task.

When you are like, hey, I walked the dog today.

Well, it depends on how big the poop is.

Well, yeah, but that's pretty easy to pick up.

Also, probably a lot of listeners that don't have dogs.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Well, you feel like we know you weren't going to pick walking the dog.

When you walk your dog, you feel like you've done something good for somebody else, too. Max is like walking the dog to the kill shelter.
Wrong. I don't have a dog.
You choke chain. Right.
I'm not going to. What are you going to say? I'm not going to.
I think I won't. Walking your dog is a great easy task.
What are you going to say, Hank? Especially. I want to know what Hank was going to say.
I don't want to disparage. No, no, go ahead.
If I was going to disparage, I would say the Mount Rushmore is things that make you feel accomplished. You're doing that for your dog.
No, no, no, no. You're not doing that for yourself.
No, no, no, no. You don't have to do that for your dog.
You need to learn how to be selfless because making somebody else feel good makes you feel good. Also, hold on.
Hold on one second. It's also if you are someone who's you.
That are someone who wasn't going to disparage. If you're in a relationship and you have a dog or even if you have kids and a dog, taking care of the dog becomes like the thing that like no one wants to do at some point when you have kids and you're like, if you do it constantly, you get a check.
Easy check. Took the dog out.
Easy. And you get the accomplishment of going for a walk yourself correct oh our pick continue oh but now we're actually saving the dog but your pick is just a bonus for our pick yeah that's how good our pick is yeah two birds one stone yeah we completely we engulfed your pick we did everything we're efficient oh our pick continue not only did you walk yeah we took your pick and made it better yeah supercharged no you took our pick Your pick is a nice little add-on for our pick that we also pick.
Continue. Not only did you walk, we took your pick and made it better.
You took our pick. Super charged.

No, you took our pick.

Your pick is a nice little add-on for our pick that we also get.

Okay.

All right.

We'll do the first one and the last one.

But the thing is that includes going there and getting them and coming back.

Uh-oh.

Go rogue.

Go rogue.

You got it, Jake.

Go rogue.

All right.

We'll do the safe one first. First one we're going to do is reading current events.
It's important to pass. Bill, you like that one.
Don't do that. Okay.
Reading current events. The New York Times daily briefing takes five minutes.
I don't trust the New York Times. They try to take time.
Watching the news. You put it on for five minutes.
It's just me personally. Checking the bar straight locks.
I hold gr hold grudges I hold grudges it's an easy task that can make you feel accomplished okay yes you guys don't pick no that's a good pick I don't know what's a great pick pick good pick pick it was a pick that's a pick you made a pick it's not a bad's just the news sucks. It makes you feel anxiety.
Yeah. Okay.
Next pick. You guys got it.
You guys got it. Getting a quick workout in.
Okay. Okay.
That makes you really accomplished. It's a workout.
It's easy. All right, give us another pick.
You guys get another chance.

We have a good list.

Yeah, give us another chance.

We'll pick the better of the two.

Putting away the groceries.

Okay.

That was my one-one.

That was your one-one.

It was up there.

It was on the list.

I don't know what to pick.

I don't either.

I would say putting away the groceries just because getting a quick workout is not an easy task. Yeah.
For you, you're a gym guy. You can get a good one.
I think we go 18. Open to the mic.
I was going to say 17 or 18. Okay, yeah.
Let's go. Yeah.
You pick. You decide.
All right. Rolling a perfect joint.
Yeah. Rolling a nice clean joint is great.
Easy task. It makes you feel very accomplished.
Yep. And then everyone's like.
Smoking weed makes you feel accomplished? Yeah. Before.
Preparing to smoke weed. Preparing the weed.
Then you smoke it and you're like, I've done everything. I rolled that sick joint.
A quick workout. It's basically like you're a farmer.
I'm on team Billy here. Much more accomplished is working out.
Rolling a joint joint is way easier than working out Obtaining marijuana And when you roll a perfect one You feel a sense of accomplishment You earned it You guys are cops that don't smoke No but that's not accomplishment You've never rolled a perfect joint sir Have you ever a perfect joint, sir. Have you ever rolled a joint? Not a good one.
Okay, exactly. So someday when you roll a perfect one, call me on that day.
Pouring a perfect pint. Well, you already had two pints in the last one.
Okay. But when you roll a perfect joint, you've created art, and then you get to smoke it.
Yeah. All right.
And there's a lot of times where you don't roll the perfect joint. You like fuck this sucks hank hank knows no i mean you guys i'm not gonna disparage whatever um no what are you gonna say it's a good pick what are you gonna say i don't think either of you guys can roll good joints so i don't know how much experience i have rolling joints but hand up i'm not good at rolling joints i know when you roll a good one have i rolled your joints yeah I've rolled probably sucked at least not good at rolling joints.
I know. But when you roll a good one, have I rolled a good joint? Yeah.
I've rolled. I've rolled.
Probably sucked. At least a half dozen perfect joints in my life, and every time I felt great.
You almost don't want to smoke it. Yeah.
Just look at it. Easy.
That's an easy task, then, if you've done it six times. Everybody calls over.
If I did it more. No, that is pretty easy, though.
If you've done it six times. Everyone that comes over the house, look at this joint that I rolled two weeks ago.
Yeah. How nice is that? That's so easy.
Okay. Shut the fuck up, Max.
I bet I can rip. Cut his mic off.
Let's keep it simple here. Taking out the trash.
Okay. Good pick.
Good pick. I can't believe that fell so low.
Yeah, either. That was a fall.
Good value. That was stupid.
Good fourth round value. All right.
I'm not going to disparage it, but I like to recycle. Other things that we missed.
Cleaning up after a bachelor party probably doesn't happen enough,

but that is one of the all-time feelings of Vucat.

That sounds like a chore.

No, but when you're the first up and you clean up all the cans,

you feel like you're the king of the day.

You basically get a free reign for the rest of the day.

Everyone's like, oh, my God, how did you do that?

Yeah.

I just woke up 30 minutes early.

And you have to do a beer run or a food run.

You don't have to do that. Yeah.
Did anyone take dishes? No. No one took dishes.
That's cleaning the house. No dishes, nothing.
Flipping a pancake perfectly. That's a good feeling too.
Good feeling. No, yeah.
Well, like just in the pan. Yeah.
Or an egg. Making a sick playlist.
Just being like right before like maybe a long drive. Just being like just sitting down on Spotify, making a sick playlist.

How about this kind of similar to the spam emails, but clearing out all the open apps on your phone and like closing all the tabs.

That feels good.

What else you guys tossing a beer perfectly across a room.

When you get that connection, guy, guy throwing out old clothes. clothes yeah that feels very good when you clean out your like closet uh weeding weeding yeah paying any bill any bill it's hard for some people it is it is i've been thinking about something okay i think on the graphic the dog thing should be taking the dog out not taking the dog for a walk why no you're now that you're confusing the dog out, not taking the dog for a walk.

Why?

No, now that you're confusing letting the dog out with taking the dog for a walk.

Two separate things.

Two separate things.

They're going to be right next to each other.

Walking the dog.

They're going to be right next.

If we picked walking, if you went first and picked walking the dog, you would not have allowed taking the dog.

No, you can do that.

I agree with you. No, you can go for a walk.
Shut up, Billy. No, you don't.
I agree. What's the next thing you're going to say? What's one of your picks cleaning out the cat litter box? That probably makes you feel very accomplished.
Yeah, if you had a cat. This might be just a personal one for me, but it always felt good, like walking under a door and then touching up, like jumping in the air and touching the door jam on the top.
Oh, fuck. Taking a piss and flushing the toilet perfectly so that you save maximum amount of time.
That is a great one. Holding the door open for someone.
Yep, that's a good one. Packing the night before a trip, not waiting till the day of.
That feels awesome. Buying coffee for the group in the that's a good one billy yeah bagels that is a good one donuts yeah that's a good one bagels yeah um taking all your supplements in the morning your supplement remembering take your pills washing your car i think we said uh some good ones though yeah oh parallel parking yeah nailing a parallel park good.
That's not easy for me. This also might be for just dudes in a relationship, but there's definitely an accomplishment feeling of picking up dinner on the way home.
Just be like, what do you want for dinner? I'll pick it up. And you really don't do anything.
You just literally just go. Remembering a birthday.
Remembering a birthday is a good one. Or anniversary.
Yeah. Same with similar what you said, like bringing home flowers for a significant other yeah i can go a long way yeah that's true that's a good one that's a good easy accomplishment that's true remembering a birthday is pretty good yeah it feels good when you do that damn i feel like that's pretty easy you guys should have took the piss one that was a good pick i just yeah the piss one's really good i love doing that kicking myself for that there's nothing nothing feels better than that and obviously if you don't time it right that's just just sitting there yeah or like uh you're not flushing twice peeing peeing confidently at a urinal next to a megastar being able being able to spell out your whole name pooping before oh yeah yeah okay I thought you meant just like H-A-N-K.
That's sick. Whenever I nail it on the first try.
Pooping before you shower. Yeah.
Yeah. That's a good one.
I think we have some good ones. I do that every time.
Yeah. No, but sometimes there's every now and then that you like fuck up your I refuse to take a shower until I at least try and poop but if you show you're always trying well like I mean sometimes I don't have to poop well that's the problem that's what like what Billy's saying and I agree with like if you sometimes will shower and like 20 minutes later you're like shit I have to poop, shit, I have to poop.
And then you're like, I'm un-leaned.

That's why you always try?

Yes.

Like, I'm incapable of taking a shower without at least sitting on the toilet.

Yeah, I just imagine you like my four-year-old.

I'm like, you got to go try.

You sit there with your iPad and watch Elmo.

Well, I'm also pretty good at pooping, that if I sit down, I can normally get something out.

I bet you are.

Yeah.

I bet you are, big boy.

Challenge failed. Well, I said big boy.
That's not good. Max, when you look at a toilet, do you have to poop? No.
When I look at it, it's more, if I hear like the shower running, it's like, oh, poop time. Poop time.
Poop time. Poop time.
Poop time. Poop time.
Poop time. Also, the easy one is just responding to a person's text like we we have a we have a certain person in our life who sometimes we forget to respond to and when we do it does feel accomplished texting is shout out big mike texting is the uh i almost put that on my everyday everyday enemies just steve jobs for inventing cell phones yeah texting and there's nothing worse than when you read a text and respond in your head and then you realize a day later you hadn't responded oh that's the worst feeling pretty much every single text i've ever a new feature of being able to change an i message to unread is clutch oh i didn't know that i didn't i don't never i've never turned that's sneakyread.
That sounds very dishonest. It's a reminder.
Yeah. Jake, are you gaslighting people? No, I'm just saying.
You know what's bad? The worst feeling is when you text somebody and you need a favor or you're asking them for something and you pull up their name and the last thing that you have is a text from them that you didn't respond to. Yes.
Oh, hey, just seeing this. Sorry.
And then you wait like two minutes and then you send request i'm gonna text todd mcshay and dan harry oh yeah you have like quarterly things that are on my phone i'm just gonna say hope you're well todd yeah you ever text someone happy birthday and the last time you text them was happy birthday a year ago to the day yep yeah that's always interesting and then that clearly means they didn't wish you a happy birthday Yeah. Okay.
Good Mount Rushmore. Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay.

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Yeah.

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Let's wrap wrap up we got fire fest of the week henry yeah yeah i mean what do you have to complain about you i mean you guys it's it's it's about you know what you know what it's going to be about i know we talk about it you know a lot and people are probably sick of it and honestly it's it's you guys have have somehow gotten into a point where i'm getting sick of it uh you're getting sick of golfing i have never i i just picked it up it's a hobby i don't have a lot going on in my life i just picked up a little hobby something to do on the side play a little what do you mean you just picked it up pick it up like hobby. I don't have a lot going on in my life.
I just picked up a little hobby, something to do on the side, play a little golf. What do you mean you just picked it up? I picked it up like a year and a half ago, two years ago.
Oh, are you upset because there's a PMTV out right now that you can watch on the Pardon My Take YouTube? Is that your Fyre Fest? Well, just like you guys talk about how much I play, which is false. You gaslight people into thinking I play all the time.
How many times you play this week? It's Thursday. Good question.
Two. One of them PFT made me PFT.
Two out of three days. Dragged me out there.
Oh, yeah. Dragged Hank out there.
I was at home one yesterday. To your point, you should check out the part of my Take YouTube channel because in a change of pace, me and Hank actually teamed up this week.
So we're on the same team trying to break 100 as a duo in the front nine

in Austin, Texas with Matty Walsh.

And so me and Hank, we're pulling on the same side of the rope here.

It's all love between us.

I don't know why you're upset about that.

It's me and Hank versus the course.

It's not like it was me against you or anything.

Wait.

So you and Hank, we're on the same team.

Hank, do you have any videos where you go up against someone playing golf coming out soon? No. I have a video coming out with Frankie Borelli on Monday.
Oh, okay. All right.
We put out the Stella Blue two-hole challenge the other day where I didn't have my clubs and didn't get the warm-up. Seems like a lot of golf.
Well, this is all work stuff. Well, Big Cat, I mean, you asked the question.
It is me and Hank on the same team. It's not like we're competing against each other, but they do show the scores at some point during the round.
Okay, so now the Fyre Fest. Then they continue to show the scores, but it's not.
We didn't even know what we were shooting. Whose Fyre Fest is this? This Fyre Fest is actually your Fyre Fest.
You don't know who my Fyre Fest is. I haven't said what it is.
Your F is. Your fire fest should be you, yourself.
My fire fest is you. No, it should be you.
It's you. You.
It's you and it's you. No, it's you.
I just picked up golf. I'm just trying to play and have a good time.
And I have thick skin. I've been through it all.
I've worked here for 10 years. I've heard it all.
Usually, you know, washes right off my head, but everyone those was that a rolls off your shoulders, your back. It was like skin off my back.
Yeah. Rolls off my back.
Yeah. She's out of my hair.
Yeah. Brush it off your shoulder.
Yeah. Everyone, because of how much you guys lie and say that all i do is play golf everyone everyone all these comments like oh someone that plays golf so much you suck you suck you suck well you do play and i'm just but it's just a hobby it's just something i do for fun it's just something i do to distract myself from you know the the from us from life yeah from just get away get out of the office and we do it for work now and it's like i guess one of those things where it's like you know you love something and then it becomes your job and all of a sudden you just don't like it anymore and you're done playing golf oh i feel so bad for you you played you played two times in the last three days and you also went to tory pines over the weekend i didn't play at tory pines did you go to tory pines over the weekend no yeah i went where Where'd you stay? Where'd you go? You went to Torrey Pines.
You went to Torrey Pines. The Hilton La Jolla, which is on Torrey Pines golf course.
Okay. I'm kind of on your side because the last thing I want to do is overstate how much golf you play.
How many rounds of golf have you played this summer? I don't know. Like, well, are we counting the work trip we went on to to mid pines sure when we golfed yeah yeah again it's summer i told you guys i i'm i'm gonna be you know taking some personal time this summer but again firefest is you and have fun you suck at golf are are being really mean to me and i'm i'm just sick of it the video go watch it on pmt i didn't play my best uh and then i have a video coming out with frankie that it was after we recorded you i mean whatever uh i'm not gonna spoil it we we recorded the podcast till you know four in the morning and then i drove to long island and had two hours of sleep four in the morning I played at 8am.
So I was playing on two hours of sleep and I, it's just like people, people, whatever. I'm not going to, I guess my fight, I guess it's lame to be like five firefighters being, people are being mean to me, but no, your firefights is you for something.
You suck. Play golf in a, in a sick twist of reality.
You assholes have somehow got it in a world where like, I don't even want to play golf because i just know people are going to be mean to me and it gets it's no it's not nice no let's be honest you don't want to play golf i'm excited for your job anymore you want to just play golf on the side i'm excited football is back uh and then i won't you know i'll be not playing anymore but you're not going to play any more golf once football starts. That's what you just said.
No, not as much, not as frequent. Okay.
Okay, so just twice a week. Maybe you should just get better.
Yeah, I think I need to take some lessons. By practicing more and playing more.
I need to take some lessons. That's a good point.
I think the problem is you don't play enough golf, Hank. Right.
Yeah. And you play almost to the limit of the amount of golf that you can play.
No, again, I stayed at a golf course this weekend, didn't play. I was at a golf course today, didn't play.
It's work. And yeah, it really is.
People that play video games for a living and then they get sick of it and quit because they're like, this thing that I did as a hobby now that's my job i don't like it anymore you guys have have turned this into a world where i i just don't have i don't know it's just people are people are people are not nice you're a porn star that doesn't like sex anymore pretty much yeah i just i'm i've been i've been fucked out fucked out of the fun it's sad it's sad to But you should watch the video. It's on the PMT YouTube right now.
Yeah, I guess. Okay.
Good fire fest. Keep in mind, I've just been playing golf for like a year and a half.
So PFT is like 100 years older than me. He's had way more experience.
Also, the amount you've played is like that of like a 10-year year pro i think i've played eight rounds of golf in

my life like eight four rounds i played negative two and i beat hank whatever that was whatever whatever okay all right pft what's your fire fest good fire fest tank my uh my fire fest is that i owe my mortgage company $22 million.

So if you've never bought a home,

sometimes... My fire fest is that I owe my mortgage company $22 million.

So if you've never bought a home, sometimes what happens is they transfer your mortgage.

They bundle it up and they pass it on to a different bank that now owns your mortgage.

And then they can transfer that and bundle it with other homes and sell that to yet another bank.

And then you have to pay that new bank your mortgage.

So in the first month of owning a home, my house got transferred, I believe twice. And the new company called me up yesterday and they said, yes, I'd like to talk to you and maybe we can schedule some recurrent payments.
And it says right here that you owe $22 million. Is that correct? And I was like, no, no, it's definitely not correct.
And then the lady looked it up and she came back and she was like, I'm seeing $22 million here in the system. And then she said that she was looking at the wrong file and then gave me a different number that was closer to what I think that I owe.
And then I got another call back from them today from a different person that came at me with a $22 million figure. So I think somehow either the real estate market went through the roof in Chicago and I didn't hear about it.
Or I owe $22 million because of clerical error that happened at some point during the two transfers. It is a nice house.
a nice thank you except the shower sometimes uh doesn't get as hot as as i should actually use that i did not say it on the podcast i should actually use that i should use that to try to get my money back for the house the guest bathroom shower doesn't heat up enough fast enough for hank did i say it on the podcast yeah think that you did. But you did say that the heated floors were a nice touch,

but you wish that the shower was warmer.

Maybe I can try to get my money back on the house.

I don't know, but apparently I owe somebody $22 million.

What would happen if I just did my monthly payments

like I owed $22 million?

You just pay off your house so fast.

Because then eventually it would get fixed.

It would eventually get fixed, yeah. So I don't i just can i go on a rent strike against the bank i don't know what's happening i'm confident that they'll they'll figure it out at some point you're just squatting there's a lot of numbers that if someone tells you like hey you have to fill out all this paperwork to correct it or you could just pay it that i'm willing to pay 22 million is probably too much that might be too much yeah like like if someone's like oh you owe a hundred dollars like i could fight this or i could just pay a hundred dollars and be done with it like i'll pay the hundred dollars i think 22 million is is the limit i think that's too much for a second when they told me that number i was like wait a second did did sleepy joe really fuck up the economy that badly and uh my mortgage rate increased after i thought that i had it locked in like did it float up to like a 98 i don't even know what that number would be uh i don't think it could shoot up to 22 million dollars hank can it shoot up though on certain types of mortgages it can you're locked in hank i i hope so yeah maybe i got hank's mortgage instead maybe you owe 22 mil you're locked in Hank.
I hope so. Yeah.
Maybe I got Hank's mortgage instead.

Maybe you owe 22 mil.

You're locked in Hank.

Oh, that sucks.

So we'll figure it out.

We'll figure it out on this end because I don't, I would prefer not to pay $22 million.

I would agree.

I would agree.

I concur.

All right.

My fire fest.

I moved this week, but talking about moving is as boring as talking about how bad you

are at golf. So my fire fest is.
Oh, it's a good thing I didn't say that. Well, you did.
My fire fest is Hank and I were out. Again, another plug for Jake, Barstool.tv.
Go watch them all this weekend. But my fire fest is a he probably looked about like 18, 19 years old, came up to me and asked younger, like 16, years old came up to me and asked younger like 16 17 came up to me and asked uh for a picture which is routine love our fans but the way he phrased it was hey big cat want to flick up and i've never been more intimidated in my life i didn't know that's how kids talk now and i am scared to go outside

my house yeah that's very very intimidating i used to live across the street from a ladies bar called the clam and i think i heard one girl say that to another there one time but i don't know i don't know in what context kids started to use flick up want to flick up as just a phrase. I can't.
too much it's too much i i i've never felt so old in my entire life than the want to flick up yeah i i mean we have no choice but to adopt that phrase now though yeah yo bro you want to flick up real quick hank's hank's gonna be flicked up on uh various YouTube pages in the next week playing golf.

Well, I heard too.

You might shut the comments off and PM to YouTube.

We put out a tweet on just every single fucking response.

Oh, man.

Well, thank you.

It'd be better if he switched as much golf as he plays.

How does Hank play so much?

It'd still be so damn bad.

He's not even close.

LOL. Monday, what'd you do? Worked.
What'd you do Monday? I worked. Did you play golf? Nope.
You didn't play 18 holes on Monday? Nope. Sunday? Nope.
Tuesday? Yep. Wednesday? Yep.

What did you do today? What did you do today, Hank?

Worked. Not two out of seven days.
Where did you work today? Yes.

You're not going to play any more golf for the rest of the week. No, we have to work.

Saturday? Saturday and Sunday, maybe. As of right now, no.

But I'll probably read the YouTube comments and get fired up and get out there so we'll see that's right hank don't let him get you if you ain't got no haters you ain't got no popping hank if you ain't got no haters you ain't popping that song is a banger by the way i just list playing it again it it goes robert's you're popping you're popping big time um all right i've got a fire fest for jake jake asked to say this on the show. His fire fest is that he's not going to be able to get wing nuts because he's going to be late coming in from the tournament, the corn fairy tournament, which you can watch on barstool.tv.
He wanted me to say that too. Speaking of which, PFT, I don't know if you saw, I thought his fire fest was going to be the fact that he's wearing the largest white polo I've ever seen produced on barstool.tv right now.
He looks like he's wearing a sail from a sailboat. Well, it's to cover up his ass and his genitals.
Cause he's not wearing pants. Yeah.
I'm barstool.tv. Yeah.
Uh, but yeah, he's not going to be able to get wing nuts this weekend, but, um, Jake would probably eat what? Like six wings, seven wings with gloves. I think it's anti like Jake's like, like that's kind of off brand for him to love wing nuts.
I think it's wing nuts. That's how good wing nuts is.
I think it's one of those things where Jake, there's a world where Jake is just like a FBI agent that is, has been working undercover on this podcast for the last five years. And the only way that he can gain our trust is to be like, yeah, wings.
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah hey guys like yeah we do crime we wings so i think that's why he's missing out but he is going to miss out and i'm so excited about wing nuts wing nuts is it's my favorite meal of the year it's gonna be incredible yes and grit week is going to be awesome this year uh monday i'll say it we have the grittiest coach that i can think of so get excited so it's going

to be a fucking awesome awesome week i love sean evans uh but yes it's going to be a great grit week and uh everyone have a great weekend and get ready for grit week getting that mindset because monday the music the intro music is going to be sounding like that grit week time mega grit week yeah grit week. Yeah.
Mega grit week. Oh, numbers.

I'll do 18.

Okay.

I'll do

69.

99. I'll videotape

it so that you guys don't, in case

something funky happens. Here we go.

This is Mickey Mouse. I don't even want to win.

Yeah, but people still like it.

36. 36.

36.

Love you guys.

Love you guys.

Love you guys.

Par.

Do you have any animal facts there?

Hank, here's an animal fact.

A birdie is what you should try to get on a golf course.

Good. Good one.
Thanks. I don't know what I'm to say.
I've stayed anyway. Today is another day to find you.
Shining away. I'll be coming for your lover Take on me Take me on I'll be gone It is a of tea Need less to say I'm all dissentist But I need so a little way Slowly learning the life is okay Say out to me At least we're better to be safe than sorry than sorry wake on me take me on I'll be gone In a day of pain Things that you say Is it a lie, boy Just to blame my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember.
You're shying away. I'll be coming for you anyway.
Take on me. Take me on.
I'll be gone

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