LeSean McCoy, Mt Rushmore Of Easy Tasks That Make You Feel Accomplished, Football Is Back + Aaron Rodgers Is The Best Teammate

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have an awesome, awesome interview with LaShawn McCoy.

Speaker 1 First time guest, going to be a recurring guest. He has the takes.
Great interview with him. We're also going to do the Mount Rushmore of everyday activities that make you feel accomplished.

Speaker 1 We have Fire Fest. We're going to talk some NFL.
Unfortunately, we've already reached injury season in the NFL.

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Speaker 1 And then a lot of

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Speaker 1 No place to hang out or washing.

Speaker 1 And then I can't play all of the songs. Oh, no, we're gonna rock it down to Electric Avenue.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Friday, July 28th.
And boys, we had a hot streak. We were two days in a row, two episodes in a row together back in Chicago.

Speaker 1 And then All Business Pete forgot to pay the electricity bill. So we're now back on Riverside.

Speaker 2 I heard that White Sox Dave just chewed through the electrical wiring and that disabled all the voltage going to the office. I do miss you guys already.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was nice being face to face for a while.

Speaker 1 It was great.

Speaker 1 We're back to Zoom.

Speaker 1 If you are upset about this, we will put on a great show. We were together for the LaShawn McCoy interview.
We were also together for the Mount Rushmore. But if you'd like to complain,

Speaker 1 please tweet all business Pete. What's his actual Twitter handle, Hank? Can we get that shouted out? Maybe put it in the lower part of the YouTube so everyone makes sure that they have that.

Speaker 1 Is it All Business Pete?

Speaker 2 I think it's at Philly underscore me.

Speaker 1 Well, you can also complain to him.

Speaker 1 At all business Pete. So please, all complaints go to him for not paying the electricity bill.

Speaker 1 The good news is All Business Pete is also in charge of our multi-million dollar new office that we're building right now.

Speaker 1 So if you don't pay the electricity bill in one, I'm sure the other one's doing fine.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, we'll be good. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 We'll be in there right on time. Yeah, we'll be right on time.
I do love Pete. He's actually, everyone,

Speaker 1 because the plug god is not here, we should say that all weekend long you can watch our darling Jake on barstool.tv at the Corn Fairy tour in Glenview, which Hank and I were out there, and it's a sick setup, unbelievable setup.

Speaker 1 I'll just say that Jake, for as much shit as we give him, has a natural golf voice yeah it's very soothing yeah i i was watching it at my computer i took a nap sitting up it was wonderful it also is you know this show we've been doing for a very long time jake has been when did jake start doing the show with us four or five years ago summer of 18.

Speaker 1 it's one of those really 19

Speaker 1 19 19. it's one of those things where um we can give each other shit till the day is long because we know each other and spend countless hours every week together.
We're family.

Speaker 1 But then if anyone else gives him shit, I get very upset and I'm like, fuck you. You don't say that.

Speaker 1 But I can say he broadcasts everything with his pants off and is a weenie for not doing the Ray Allen tweet.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And also that he had a terrible showing in Mount Rushmore earlier this week.
Yes.

Speaker 2 What's in that cup at your desk there, Jake? I'm watching you on TV. I'm wondering what's in there.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right.
So unfortunately,

Speaker 1 well, football's back. And with football comes injuries.
So we're taping this in the afternoon

Speaker 1 on Thursday. We just got news that Joe Burrow went down with a non-contact injury holding his leg and everything fucking sucks.
Everything sucks. Joe Burrow is, obviously, we are friends with him.

Speaker 1 He's a friend of the show.

Speaker 1 But more than that, like anytime a big quarterback goes down, it sucks because now you have to look at the schedule and be like, no offense to Trevor Simeon, but we might be watching Trevor Simeon on a Monday night or a Sunday night.

Speaker 1 Hank, what are you going to say? You have an update? Yeah, Ian Raffport just tweeted. Zach Taylor tells reporters that QB Joe Burrow suffered a calf strain.
Oh, okay, so we're fine. Oh, there we go.

Speaker 1 The toss is averted. Okay, so we're good.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 I was about to say

Speaker 1 everybody out there.

Speaker 2 Everybody out there is hoping that it's a calf because he was grabbing his leg.

Speaker 2 Trevor Simeon, I was about to be like, this sucks because now we're going to get 20 more Mike Florio articles about how Kaepernick would be a good fit on the band.

Speaker 1 Poor Trevor Simeon is just minding his own business. Joe Burrow gets a little calf strained, and we start the show being like, well, now we have to fucking watch Trevor Simeon again.
So

Speaker 2 Trevor Simeon doesn't want to play any more than you want to watch him play. Trevor Simeon's got a great gig going.
He's going to be a backup for life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got the dream job. So he's got every guy's dream job is Trevor Simeon's job.
So thank God.

Speaker 1 And it looks like Jalen Ramsey also is going to be okay, but there's nothing worse than the first few days of camp seeing that video.

Speaker 1 Like it's usually some media person who's standing 150 yards away being like, oh, no, cart's out. And then you have to make all these wild decisions and

Speaker 1 ideas pop in your head, watching like a player, like a little dot off in the distance, like limping off the field. Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 I'm glad that it looks like a cap strain. That way we can make some jokes about it.
So I did, I checked Twitter to see who was the leader in the clubhouse with the as a blank fan.

Speaker 2 Right now, Browns fans absolutely killing it with class right now.

Speaker 2 browns fans left and right on the internet are saying as a browns fan i hope it's not serious as a browns fan you hate to see this happen even inside the division showing you know true humanity even though they root for a different football team still going out there and saying i hope that you're not severely injured so uh shout out to the browns being very very classy they're doing the um the the drake when when he found out that kevin durant popped his achilles they're like oh no no man come on yeah no god no

Speaker 1 i I do, though, respect Chiefs fans. And it's obviously just one fan.
You can't judge the whole fan base off of one tweet. But one Chiefs guy replied to me and was like, oh, well, so sad.

Speaker 1 Chiefs to the bowl again. And it was just a picture of Patrick Mahomes.
And it's like, you know what? Like.

Speaker 1 I like that the Chiefs fans can maybe get to their next level of just being the hated fan base. Like, you should embrace that.

Speaker 1 Embrace being the heel, knowing that you have Patrick Mahomes for the next decade. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, this is a good one right here.

Speaker 2 It's from a Ravens fan. Even as a Ravens fan, you hate to see this happen.
Hashtag Joe Burrow, hashtag who Day, hashtag Bangles.

Speaker 2 When you got a division rival using your team's hashtag, you know that it's class right there.

Speaker 1 That is class. That's ultimate class.
Either way, good that Joe Burrow seems to be okay. Hopefully this doesn't age poorly.
Other NFL news.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers, what a guy. Probably the greatest guy ever.
I'm so happy that I've never said anything bad about Aaron Rodgers. He took a $35 million pay cut for the Jets.

Speaker 1 Basically a big fuck you to the Packers. I think I officially have like no ill will towards Aaron Rodgers anymore.
This one cemented it for me.

Speaker 2 So he took $35 million this year, but how much does he get paid next year?

Speaker 1 It's like $38 million next year, $1 million this year.

Speaker 2 Oh, I thought it was more than $38 million next year.

Speaker 1 No, because he gets it all in a signing bonus.

Speaker 1 He gets like a $35 million signing bonus this year, and he gets his salary is going to be like 1.8 and then next year it's 38 either way it gives i would love to take a pay cut like that is that a pay cut it it was

Speaker 1 your money up front no he was set to make over a hundred million dollars like his existing deal he could have just rode that out he took a pay cut dalvin cook's already in at the jets facility taking a tour aaron rodgers i've i've always liked the guy I don't know what to say.

Speaker 1 Like, he's just a great guy. He's a consummate professional, teammate, always the team first.

Speaker 1 Just what probably, I'll say it right now. Maybe he's got to win a couple games for the Jets.
But when he goes to Canton, he might go in as a Jet.

Speaker 2 So I saw Tyreek Hill say that the other day that he's going to go in as a Dolphin. I don't think in the NFL you go in as anybody.
I think that's baseball, isn't it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it says it underneath who you played for.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like lists your team. But it's fun to ask people, like, what are you going to go in as if you make the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 2 My guess is that Aaron Rodgers just saw the taxes that would come out of his paycheck and be like, you know what? Some of that money is going to support gain of function research in Wuhan.

Speaker 2 So I don't want to fund the CDC. So don't actually don't pay me anything.

Speaker 1 Sick of the Ukraine war. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 He's playing checkers. No, I mean, it is cool.
And it's funny how we see the media treat different athletes that decide to take certain pay cuts.

Speaker 2 Like, I saw Florio got up in arms about Patrick Mahomes and how Patrick Mahomes is like very underpaid. Even though if I'll...

Speaker 2 I kind of agree with Mahomes that if you're getting paid $40 million a year or $50 million a year, probably not that big of a difference in lifestyle, right?

Speaker 1 Especially in Kansas City.

Speaker 2 In Kansas City, yeah. You own like you max it out.
You're bumping.

Speaker 2 That's all you're allowed to get paid.

Speaker 1 There's nothing more you can buy. You've bought everything you need in Kansas City at $40 million.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he owns every jet ski that you can take off to the Ozarks in the summertime for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 But Aaron Rodgers, what a guy. Who would have thought?

Speaker 1 He's a great, he is an all-time jet. All-time jet.
That's what I'll remember him as. Mr.

Speaker 2 Jets. All-time jet is what they're calling him.

Speaker 1 And it is a fuck you to the Packers because the last few years has been obviously not great where, you know, he's been at odds with the front office, getting these big mega contracts, and then he goes to the Jets for two months.

Speaker 1 He's like, yeah, you know what? Pay me less. That's cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's very funny. And Aaron does have that revenge spite element to him where that 100% factored into.

Speaker 1 Are you guys coming around?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 they gave him his wish list. But

Speaker 1 a Aaron Rodgers who feels slighted is a very dangerous Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 I'm still not coming around because it happens so often where you see quarterback change teams or a big-name player change teams. And I'm not saying he's not going to be great next year.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying there's it's it's different. It's very different for him, especially since his offensive coordinator is apparently the worst NFL head coach in the history of the NFL.

Speaker 2 according to Sean Payton. Did you see that interview? Yes.
That Sean Payton did. Payton is back at it.
Sean Payton is officially 100% back.

Speaker 2 All the headlines are going going to be about how he said that Nathaniel Hackett did the worst job of coaching in the history of the NFL. People are going to talk about that.

Speaker 2 To me, that was not the best part of the story.

Speaker 2 Did you read the rest of it? Oh, yeah. He's up to his old tricks.
Sean Payton basically is a film director. He's like Quentin Tarantino.

Speaker 2 And he's got like a staff of people who are in charge of editing together motivational videos for him to show to his team. When he was on the Saints,

Speaker 2 he showed them rats getting their necks snapped by rat traps to remind them not to take the cheese. He's a big video guy.

Speaker 2 So he has his assistant, Paul Kelly, cue up a nature documentary that showed baby iguanas under attack from running snakes immediately after they hatched.

Speaker 2 And the video captured how some of the iguanas survived by dashing to an oceanside cliff. Others were just eaten by snakes.

Speaker 2 And Peyton pondered showing what he called a creepy video, but he wanted to hammer home a point to his players of you have to hit the ground running.

Speaker 2 So to do that, he showed his team baby iguanas getting chased by snakes and eaten by snakes, which it's awesome.

Speaker 2 And then he also showed them a video where at the end, it had the Denver Broncos training staff getting into a Ford Bronco, driving away.

Speaker 2 And then he had his film guy edit in a scene from planes, trains, and automobiles where the car drives off a cliff.

Speaker 2 So I'm not exactly sure what he's going for. He killed the training staff from last year.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, so yeah, there was another part of of this story.

Speaker 1 So, for anyone who missed it, Sean Payton just basically did an open mic and just roasted Nathaniel Hackett, said that he's never seen a worse coaching job, saying he's also never seen an organization get embarrassed the way the Broncos got embarrassed last year.

Speaker 1 Said there were 20 dirty hands. It really was all summed up as it was kind of Sean Payton's way of saying Russell Wilson is not broken, everyone else was broken around him.

Speaker 1 So, kind of setting the stage for Sean Payton fixing all of this. But they asked Robert Salah afterwards about this.

Speaker 1 And I have to watch the video because maybe he said it smoother than I'm reading it. But Robert Salah said, I kind of live by the saying, if you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.
So hate away.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It probably sounded smoother when he said it. That's a song.

Speaker 1 Okay, it is a song. Yeah.
Okay, what is the song?

Speaker 1 Ah, hold on.

Speaker 1 Oh, Hank, you don't dang either.

Speaker 1 I know how it goes.

Speaker 1 You ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.

Speaker 1 Joy, that's not his saying then. He should have said, as this person says, you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.

Speaker 2 Haters are your marketing team.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love this, though. It's a coach.

Speaker 1 We're day two of camp, and Sean Payton was like, fuck this. I'm going scorched earth.
I don't care. And they play week five.

Speaker 2 Yeah, wait, where was this attitude from Robert Salah last year when he was just saying, like, I'm going to print out a CVS-linked receipt of all the haters?

Speaker 1 Yeah. We you saw it come out

Speaker 1 in the last week rico is rico richie popping it came out eight years ago and what's the actual lyric if you ain't got no haters you ain't popping okay so that is the way hank said it yeah that's how it goes well i was trying to say it as lame as possible because that's how i assumed like that's a weird thing for a head coach to just drop on everyone

Speaker 1 yeah but you're right pft Robert Salah last year said he's gonna print the receipts and shove it down our throats.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he hated the haters last year. He was a hater in how much he hated the haters.

Speaker 1 So something has changed.

Speaker 2 So I guess, no, that's good for us because as podcasters, we were hating on the Jets and hating on Zach Wilson. So by him hating on us, that means that he's one of our haters.
So we're popping.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're popping now. All right.
We've never been more popping this podcast.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, it feels good. This is, we're starting to get into the flow here.
Hank's going to start getting mad at us for saying football is back on every episode from now until

Speaker 1 football is actually back. We are, Hank.
Like, football's back. Oh, I know.

Speaker 2 I had the very dumb thought yesterday when I was watching the U.S. women's national team play.

Speaker 2 We stink, by the way. Yeah, we're not good right now.
We stink.

Speaker 2 It was sick when she told her teammate to shut the fuck up, her teammate on her club team, and then like two seconds later, headed in a goal.

Speaker 1 She backed it up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She backed up.

Speaker 2 But I had the very dumb thought when I was watching that game because it takes place in New Zealand. And I was doing the math.

Speaker 2 And they're like, oh, oh, it's two o'clock in the afternoon in Wellington. And I was like, wait, they're closer to football season starting than we are right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Think about it. Yeah.
They're right there. They're on the precipice.
So other football news, the

Speaker 1 Colorado is going to be a Big 12 team.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Big 12 has basically torn apart the Pac-12, rated it for all its parts. And I think this is like the Pac-12's done.
They're done. I don't know who else is going to go to the Big 12.
Pac-12's done.

Speaker 1 And you know that, do you guys follow that account on, I think it's on Twitter, Moments Before Disaster? And it's like, it's like sports stuff.

Speaker 1 So it'll be like a moment right before just a terrible, you know, like a grand slam or something. The Pac-12 commissioner

Speaker 1 yesterday or two days ago in the Pac-12 Media Day said,

Speaker 1 as far as what we have going on here. Oh, no, sorry, that's Robert Salai.
I wrote that down.

Speaker 1 He said, it's about realignment. It's not a concern.
Our schools are committed to each other in the Pac-12.

Speaker 1 We'll get a media rights deal done, and I think the realignment as it comes to college athletics will be done as it comes to this cycle. And then it was like 24 hours later, Colorado to the Big 12.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, it makes big cat to your point. Like, what a disgusting job by a conference to raid a team like that.
Big 12.

Speaker 2 It'd be a shame. It's disgusting.
Like, can you imagine from a geographical standpoint, Colorado has to go play against West Virginia? That makes no sense.

Speaker 2 I can't think of any other conference in the country that would do something like that.

Speaker 1 Well, the SEC did. Like, Texas is going to have to play Florida.
That's weird.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Austin to Gainesville. That's pretty strange.
Austin to Atlanta.

Speaker 2 That's a tough hike.

Speaker 1 But besides that, basically, what we're heading for right now is

Speaker 2 there's going to be one big conference at some point. And so we're readjusting the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Colorado is like, yeah, we're going to go to the Big 12.

Speaker 2 But the reality is within the next 10 years, I bet there's going to be one conference that that has the top teams in it. And there might be different divisions inside that one conference.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 we have not yet begun to see realignment.

Speaker 1 PFT and I do a hit on Pittsburgh Radio. We love those guys.

Speaker 1 And Randy Bauman mentioned, because I was talking to him about it this morning when I was on, and he's like, it's basically, it feels like realignment is just like what's happening with,

Speaker 1 you know, Netflix and all the cord cutting and cable TV. And he's right, because what's going to happen is

Speaker 1 we're going to realign some more. The Pac-12 is going to be disbanded.
Like the Big Ten will have an East and West. They're going to start with no division.
Then they're going to do an East and West.

Speaker 1 And then the West is going to be like UCLA, USC, Oregon, Washington. And then they're going to say, well, why don't we just make our own conference? And then they'll just go back to the original.

Speaker 1 We're going to bundle and then we're going to unbundle.

Speaker 2 Yeah, then you're going to have all the different, you're going to have too many bundles and then you're going to have to unbundle some of them. Finland's going to join NATO.
Shit's getting wild.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So that was one of the pieces of college football news.
The other was

Speaker 1 probably the weirdest attempt at taking down a program I've seen in a while. The Minnesota, there was a report out of front office sports that PJ Fleck

Speaker 1 has bad culture in his program. And it was essentially players saying they had to run

Speaker 1 as penalties, which actually is illegal in the NCAA. They made that illegal in 2018.

Speaker 2 No coach has done it since then.

Speaker 1 No coach has done it since then. And then one of the greatest quotes I've ever seen with no irony involved was a player, anonymous source saying about PJ Fleck.

Speaker 1 He was making us say, forget about yourself as an individual. I was baffled because it's not anything logical.
If you forget about yourself, then who are you?

Speaker 1 You're part of a team.

Speaker 1 The guy almost got to the point where he realized he was asking, PJ Fleck was asking everyone to be buy into the team, but he just couldn't get there.

Speaker 2 I'm going to blow the whistle on all of football because this happens on every single football team at every age, every sports team, not even just football, every sports team, every basketball team, every baseball team.

Speaker 2 And baseball is probably the one sport where you wouldn't need to have like a super cohesive team to be great. But you can look across.

Speaker 1 Every company.

Speaker 2 Every company.

Speaker 2 Every time you do an orientation when you start a new job and they try to get you to buy into the company culture, yeah, guess what? You're going to be spending eight hours a day of your life there.

Speaker 2 They want you on board with what they're trying to accomplish. This is just

Speaker 2 okay, so there's a lot of bad shit that happens in college football for sure. A lot of coaches that do things that are above and beyond, and they ultimately end up injuring their players.

Speaker 2 They end up damaging some of their players' mental health, all this stuff. That does happen.
That happens from time to time at certain programs.

Speaker 2 What's being described at Minnesota is just basically this guy's like, they made me play sports on the sports team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They, and not only that, but major Division I college football is not easy. Guys who play in that are insane athletes, have an insane mental toughness.
Like, it's not easy.

Speaker 1 So you didn't, I don't know if you expected it to be easy, but it wasn't going to be easy.

Speaker 1 And I, the only thing, the only real question I have out of this whole thing is, is the fleck bank too big to fail?

Speaker 1 Because there was also part of the story that he has a fleck bank and players paid money to the fleck bank. And if you had enough tokens in the fleck bank, you then could maybe

Speaker 1 not have to take a

Speaker 1 drug test. So the fleck bank sounds pretty, it's a pretty sound institution as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 It's what you just described with Schrootbux.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 He made Schroedbucks. And if you know PJ Fleck, he definitely has a little bit of that Dwight Schrut in him.
Oh,

Speaker 2 none of this is surprising whatsoever that PJ Fleck developed his own sovereign currency that he uses to reward players that play within the system that he's created. And

Speaker 2 it's not shocking to me at all, but what is shocking is that they wrote the article about this.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, this is cool.

Speaker 2 There's definitely better stuff to write about. And I'm not the guy that's like, oh, look at this so much for so-called journalism.
And you put the journalism in like scare quotes.

Speaker 2 I usually hate it when people do that. But in this case, I agree.
There's a million more important things to write about out there than this.

Speaker 1 The article was essentially PJ fleck kind of annoying and that and i think everyone if they had phrased that as the headline everyone would have been like yeah i kind of agree because there was another part i would have been like i read about that last week in no shit weekly yeah yeah right the the the there was another quote where the players were saying anonymous player said there was only one acceptable answer when fleck and other staff members asked how are you doing you had to reply i'm elite That's annoying.

Speaker 1 Like, that is an annoying thing.

Speaker 1 If you said, if you just said PJ Fleck, kind kind of an annoying guy who also wins some football games, the article would have actually, I think it actually might have taken him down being like, ooh, he's annoying.

Speaker 2 So some of the stuff that wasn't reported in this article is actually, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 There was one report that I read that PJ makes his players always wear.

Speaker 2 team logos and team issued merchandise when they're working out, when they're participating in workouts, when they practice, when they walk around campus, like they have to wear the Minnesota M on their chest all the time.

Speaker 2 Isn't that crazy? Like no other school would ever do something like that.

Speaker 1 It was, it was, the whole article was like, this, you just described the Division I program because there was also

Speaker 1 Fleck and others on the coaching staff were obsessed with players' weight. Okay, that's a football coach.

Speaker 1 Former players said they felt rushed to return from injury or didn't have their injuries treated appropriately. Sucks, but that's also a football coach.
Like,

Speaker 1 that does suck if they were trying to rush you back from injury. But I also think that every football coach in America is doing exactly that right this second.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So if you're a good player and you get injured, your coach is going to be like, when can you play again? When can you play again? Because guess what?

Speaker 2 The faster you play again, the more likely it is that they get to keep their job at the end of the season. And if you're a shitty player and you get injured, guess what?

Speaker 2 Coaches are going to start to ignore you because they don't care. That's just, that's the reality of college sports.
That's the reality of sports in general.

Speaker 2 This to me, if I put on a conspiracy hat, and I'm not saying this happened, but it would make sense. Was there another coach in the Big Ten that was just in the news for some bad stuff?

Speaker 1 You think Ravel's the source on everything in this?

Speaker 2 I think Ravel,

Speaker 2 I think Ravel found out he's in touch with another nerd that was mad that he had to run at practice. And Ravel is like, you should leak this.
You should put this out.

Speaker 2 It's disgusting what he did to you. They're hazing you pretty much.
This is a much better story. I think Ravel put this guy up to it, this anonymous source, to try to to get a story out there.

Speaker 1 He's trying to burn the whole Big Ten down. He's going to go program to program, just trying to find guys who had to run gassers after being off sides.

Speaker 2 I think I'm officially going to be a Northwestern fan. That's going to be my Big Ten school.

Speaker 1 Okay, I got a question about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You do have a team in Division I college football.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I just want to be a Northwestern fan to annoy Darren Revelle.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 1 I'm all in on that. I'm all in on that.

Speaker 2 That's the only reason I want to be

Speaker 2 more of a Northwestern fan than darren revell i will help you do that just to piss darren revelle off so i and northwestern listen i i do we we've had a good time uh at your program we enjoyed working out with you guys you got a great stadium great campus i have nothing against

Speaker 2 yeah might get coacho might get urban meyer uh but I have nothing against your program. I will support you.
I will 100% root for you. I'll bet on you.
I'll watch all your games.

Speaker 2 But just know that I am also trying to piss off Darren Revelle as much as I can.

Speaker 2 And if you accept me in with your whole heart, more than you let Darren Revelle in, that would be great for you because you want Darren as far away from you as possible.

Speaker 1 Also, you can do the spin zone. You are a new Northwestern fan.
You're not an old. The old regime had a lot of problems.

Speaker 2 I would never have supported that.

Speaker 1 Never, ever. You are a clean slate, new regime.

Speaker 1 You are a true Northwestern fan. You believe in the institution, not the coach that just got fired.

Speaker 2 I bleed purple. Is that their color or do they have a special color of purple?

Speaker 1 No, they're purple.

Speaker 1 So I'm all in on this.

Speaker 1 I will just say it right now, just being, you know, trust-tree.

Speaker 1 Mental health is mental wealth. If Northwestern beats Wisconsin and you celebrate, I will get triggered and very upset, and it could break up our relationship.

Speaker 2 It would be very funny, though.

Speaker 1 No, I'm telling you right now, don't do it.

Speaker 2 No, it'd be very, it'd be very, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put my game of the year.

Speaker 1 I'm calling it right now, game of the year,

Speaker 2 Northwestern covering the spread against Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 book it i'm gonna put i'll just be a jmu fan a bigger jmu fan than you because you have a second team bring it on bring it on we the more you just got to division one and you're already picked another team i love that's crazy that's bad that's bad you're bad sports town you're pre-triggered right now no you're a bad sports to pre-triggered about me putting a massive bet on northwestern to cover against wisconsin you're a bad sports town right now because you have a division one your team you wanted your team to be a division one team for the longest time they finally got there and you're like oh i'm a northwestern fan no that's a bad sports town.

Speaker 2 Shut the fuck up, Hank.

Speaker 1 You forgot your roots real quick. No, no, that's a bad sports town.

Speaker 2 I'm a massive JMU fan. Nothing will ever change that.
I'm Mr. Sunbelt.

Speaker 1 It's so massive that you have room for another team. Yeah, that's it.
Well, that doesn't seem that massive.

Speaker 2 When it's Northwestern, when it's Northwestern, you have to like, listen, the bandwagon's open right now at Northwestern. And they're a local team.
You know what? Big Cat. I moved to Chicago, okay?

Speaker 2 I got to lay down some roots here. I plan on living here for a very long time.

Speaker 2 I can't wait to one day take my my future unborn children to Northwestern games, make it a family tradition. I'm going to put the flag out on my porch.
I'm going to put a Northwestern.

Speaker 2 It's going to be the Northwestern slash JMU house divided bumper sticker on the back of my car.

Speaker 1 But it's just you.

Speaker 2 It's just me.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 What half of your body gets JMU? Bottom or top?

Speaker 2 Penis.

Speaker 1 Okay. The penis goes to you to JMU.
Okay, that's a JMU. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm all in, though, to get Darren Revelle upset.

Speaker 1 You got to do the Mike Tyson Northwestern.

Speaker 2 remember he did the face paint you should do that for week one i will i will i will if they're playing at home i'll go out there if it's an 11 o'clock kickoff doesn't matter i'm there um they are building a new stadium it's gonna be sick yeah now that i joined there's all this money there's all this money going into the you have to donate very happy i i will donate i'll donate money will you match

Speaker 2 i will not match good question hank i will not match i will not be matching northwestern has more than enough money they don't need any more this will bring me closer to greeny it'll be great it'll be great for the show.

Speaker 1 Wilbond.

Speaker 2 Yeah, all the big J's.

Speaker 1 All your favorites.

Speaker 2 There was, we had another great Mike Tomlin quote today.

Speaker 1 Ooh, laid on.

Speaker 2 See that? They asked him about Kenny and what they expect from Kenny in terms of making a progression here as his career develops. He said,

Speaker 2 we need him to be what we need him to be. Facts.
Fact. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 Pat Fryermuth is probably sitting in a closet right now trying to figure out what that actually is. Yeah, it's the same.

Speaker 2 It is the standard on crack. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 Tomlin does,

Speaker 2 sometimes Tomlin does talk like a magic eight ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 You just shake it and you read it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a fortune cookie slash magic eight ball combined, just walking around. He should actually do that.

Speaker 1 He should pull out a little piece of paper out of his mouth at the press conference and be like, all right, here it is. We need Kenny to be Kenny.
Yep. We need him to be what we need him to be.

Speaker 1 All right. Other sports stories.
Shohei is staying at the Angels, backed it up with a complete game one hitter, which is pretty cool. But what the fuck are the Angels doing?

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is, it seems like a bad idea. Well, if you're the Angels, this is the one chance that you have.

Speaker 2 Every now and again, you got to throw your fans a little bit of red meat and say, if we're going to make a move to go all in, this is the year that we're going to do it. And

Speaker 2 the Angels, like we talked about with the Orioles,

Speaker 2 if they traded Shohei, they get a king's ransom for him. They're just going to develop more players and probably trade them too.

Speaker 2 Right. It is

Speaker 2 probably the right move, but also knowing the Angels and the history of the Angels, the chance of it not working out is pretty high.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I have to believe that there's a part of them, maybe they've had discussions where Shohei is going to re-sign with the Angels because it does seem like he likes living out there.

Speaker 1 He likes like Jeff Passon had a report that was basically like he loves being out on the West Coast. He likes, you know, the Angels and what comes with that.
So maybe he's going to stay.

Speaker 1 Maybe this is just a way for him to stay, which I'm cool with because I would rather him be on the Angels than the Dodgers or the Yankees.

Speaker 2 Yeah, 100%. I was talking with Titus the other day about Shohei and how it seems like nobody out there is a Shohei hater.

Speaker 1 No, how could he?

Speaker 2 So he might not be popping, but that's what I was saying. I was like, somebody should be the Shohei Otani hater.

Speaker 2 Like find some deep metric of how he's actually underperforming and just become the skip to LeBron of Shohei Otani.

Speaker 1 Are you saying we should do that?

Speaker 2 I'm saying we should think about it.

Speaker 1 He went 0 for 5 today with two strikeouts.

Speaker 2 After the pressure of the trade deadline gets lifted.

Speaker 2 He decided to go to the Angels, a team that has no expectations on it. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 He took the cowards' way out.

Speaker 2 Is he afraid of the bright lights?

Speaker 1 It's a good question.

Speaker 2 If I was Shohei Otani, I would be demanding, demanding a trade to the New York Yankees or the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Speaker 1 That's just me, though. 0 for 5, two strikeouts.
It's a bad day.

Speaker 2 That's what they're calling him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Should we get to our interview? I don't think we have anything else.

Speaker 1 We're going to do our interview with LaShawn McCoy, and then we have Mount Rushmore of everyday activities that make you feel accomplished. Oh, I had one last thing.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 Did you guys see the Michigan fan? Probably the most cell phone of all time online. So Michigan and Michigan State have been going at it because Jim Harbaugh, who we fully back,

Speaker 1 got suspended for four games. And there's a Michigan fan.

Speaker 1 I think she does content. She has like 17 or 18,000 followers.

Speaker 1 She tweeted, hopping in the DM and saying, you'll bash my head in when you see me in East Lansing. You're sick in the head.
LMAO, this is sad. And someone replied,

Speaker 1 at them, we want to out these fucking bums. And she put a screenshot up.
of a burner account called Forest, Forest, Forest.

Speaker 1 She forgot that in the screenshot, it says edit profile.

Speaker 1 So she was burner accounting herself to make Michigan State fans

Speaker 1 look bad, and then she just completely dunked on herself.

Speaker 2 It's a false flag operation.

Speaker 1 It's a false flag operation. So

Speaker 1 this is another sign football is back, Hank.

Speaker 1 When the college football fan rivalries start kicking up, I saw Ryan Day said that he wants the game to be not in the last week of the season. Like people were chomping at the bit for that.

Speaker 1 It's just great. It's great.
Football is back.

Speaker 2 That is sad, though, that Ryan Day would even say that. It's pathetic.
It is really, really pathetic. That game needs to be the last.

Speaker 1 He sensed weakness with Jim Harbaugh's suspension. Was like, ooh, let me take a shot here.
It's pathetic.

Speaker 2 So he was trying to say that Michigan isn't even that much of a rival to them where it shouldn't be a traditional last game of the season. Is that the angle he was going for?

Speaker 1 I think the angle he was going for is that you always get penalized for losses later in the season. So having to play Michigan later in the season is a detriment to both teams.

Speaker 1 So, he's like, let's play week one. That way, if we all go, if we both go undefeated the rest of the year, it doesn't matter, which is also a coward's way out because you just lost the last two years.

Speaker 2 So, it would have been, yes, that is a cowardly statement to make.

Speaker 2 If Harbaugh had said that in the vein of like, they're not even a rival anymore because we keep kicking their ass, that would have been awesome.

Speaker 1 Yes, that would have absolutely ruled.

Speaker 1 Absolutely ruled.

Speaker 2 Like, let's play Michigan State.

Speaker 1 That's a real rival. Let's play Minnesota.
Fuck it. Yeah.
We'll go to, We'll go make a deposit in the fleck bank.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's get to our interview.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, two-time Super Bowl champ, one of the best running backs in the past decade plus. It is LaShawn McCoy.

Speaker 1 Shady, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 We have a ton of things we want to ask you, but we might as well start with the thing that is in the news, running backs getting disrespected and

Speaker 1 where you're at on that because it feels like they're phasing you out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it's tough, man, right now to be a running back. And I can't really understand why.

Speaker 1 I was thinking maybe because like, you know, it's like the new thing is to use two to three running backs to do one running back's job. Some guy to, you know, do the blocking and the shirt yardage.

Speaker 1 Another one's a catch. The other one's the first and second down running back.
So I can't really figure it out.

Speaker 1 I mean, because a guy like Josh Jacobs, who leads league in yards last year, who's been productive every year he's been in the league, and they don't want to pay him.

Speaker 1 And then a guy like Saquon Barkley, who's probably the best player on the Giants team, right? But you don't pay him. You pay the quarterback.

Speaker 1 that's been below average or above average his whole career. So it's puzzling.
It truly is, man. It just sucks because we're the only position where you could be super productive.

Speaker 1 And then the next year, they say, oh, well, you know what? He had a lot of workload last year. That's not paying.
So

Speaker 1 I don't know what to do, man.

Speaker 2 And with Josh Jacobs, it's a catch-22 because he bet on himself last year. He's like, okay, you know what? I'm going to do the right thing.
I'm going to participate in the programs.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go in, act like I'm part of the team because I am. Hopefully they'll do the right thing.
They'll compensate me moving forward.

Speaker 2 And if not, worst case scenario, maybe you can get a good deal out there on the open market but it feels like there's even if you try to do all the right things as a running back right now your options are going to be limited like we were saying the other day on the show they should just get rid of the franchise tag in general it seems like the franchise tag is one thing that's done so much harm for the running back position to you know prevent them from getting to free agency that one year sometimes makes a massive difference in a running back's career Yeah, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 1 I seen him about, what, maybe three weeks ago, and we were talking about it. And

Speaker 1 he said that they didn't even offer him a contract. I'm thinking, like, how the hell you don't even offer a contract to the leading rusher of NFL? And the only thing I told him was,

Speaker 1 I guess the issue I had was that they should have made a bigger chaos about it, right?

Speaker 1 Every time we heard about Saquon Barkley or we heard about Josh Jacobs, it was just answers as far as, okay, well, there hasn't been a deal done yet.

Speaker 1 um you know nothing happened yet that's the only thing he heard about and then they might tweet here and there when you want a contract that's about that paper it's about that money.

Speaker 1 You need to go, listen, ain't no friends. We ain't no homies.
The owner,

Speaker 1 you're not my friend right now. I need to get my money.
And it's just started as soon as the season was over. He should have made a big deal about it.
Either I want to be here.

Speaker 1 I want to let the fans don't want to be here, but they're not paying me no money. And if they can't, trade me.
I want to be traded. Like, you got to make it uncomfortable for these people.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's true because a lot of times, especially with the fan pressure, because fans come from a weird perspective where they're like, well,

Speaker 1 I would get paid $10 million dollars to play a game it's like well you're not good enough to do that i would play for free shady yeah i just want to let you know yeah i would play football for free i'd actually pay them give me 400 carries per year i'll do

Speaker 1 that see this is the thing though if if chris mccathy is making 16 million dollars a year right

Speaker 1 and i'm the leading rusher i mean let's say if you don't want to pay me 16 you can't pay me 10.

Speaker 1 you get i'm saying you can't just pay me 10 million Well,

Speaker 1 it's your worth. Yeah, Chris McCaffrey, though, and this is something that made you different in terms of a running back, catching the ball has become so important.

Speaker 1 Where do you think that's going to be a thing with running backs, especially in youth football and then in the college, high school level, where it's like you have to be able to be a dynamic catcher to be able to get that big bucks?

Speaker 1 Because that's the difference with Christian McCaffrey: he's split out wide. He's doing all these different things, similar to what you were doing.

Speaker 1 You know, you were so good catching the football and making plays.

Speaker 1 If you're just a traditional running back from the 90s, like it doesn't, it doesn't work anymore. Now, you're right.
I mean, you look at Alvin Kamara,

Speaker 1 he's at the top of the charts with Christian Carrot, and they both are similar in catching the ball. So that does make a point.

Speaker 1 I just look at

Speaker 1 how you're utilized and their production. Like Saquon Barkley, right? Out of all the NFL on the offensive side of the ball, he was ranked fifth among

Speaker 1 like yardage, yardage for his offense. So I'm like, damn,

Speaker 1 if you're 28 to 30% of the offense,

Speaker 1 like basically, you, you, you basically the offense. Right.
But how don't you get paid? You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, that's the part where you have like a backup wide receiver, the number two or number three, making more money than the starting running back.

Speaker 1 That's not just a regular running back, one of the best in the league. That's the only part that I can't agree with as far as if you could run the ball and catch the ball.

Speaker 1 But if you're just productive, right? If you just climb off this, I'm a baller. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.
I got to pay them guys, though. No, that's,

Speaker 1 we pointed that out. And I think you actually pointed it out as well when you were on TV.

Speaker 1 But like, it's the fact that Daniel Jones, if you asked anyone who's a better football player, and it's no disrespect to Daniel Jones, but if you asked anyone who's a better football player, Saquon Barkley or Daniel Jones, everyone would say Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 1 But the quarterback position gets paid at a completely different stratosphere than every other position on the field. See, you're totally right.

Speaker 1 And I think it should be more of like, all right, well, let's pay player because i know it's a market thing you got to pay what's in the market right

Speaker 1 so but a guy like daniel jones like where do you pay him right because where he slotted at i don't think he deserves that you get what i'm saying i think we need to pay these players off of

Speaker 1 what their true value is

Speaker 1 not what the market says because the markets will tell you not to pay saquan or pay josh

Speaker 1 um jacobs yeah but his production it seems

Speaker 2 it's just it's not fair it's not fair to the the players that have gone out there that's it's robbery, bro.

Speaker 1 But life isn't fair.

Speaker 2 It's the shitty thing where it's like,

Speaker 1 it's robbery.

Speaker 2 It's not fair.

Speaker 2 But the way that the salary caps are structured right now and what NFL GMs believe they can do in the draft, in their mind, it's like, well, I don't need to pay a running back who, I mean, in their eyes, if you're 28 years old, it's like, ew, that's old.

Speaker 2 You know, like in reality, you're a young guy still. You're in your physical prime, but with running backs, sometimes that production drops off so sharply.

Speaker 2 So I understand why they're doing what they're doing, but at the same time, I can say that sucks. Yeah, it sucks, and it isn't fair.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you put together a bunch of money in like a performance pool where guys, based on their actual production, they get to dip into that if they have a big season, or if it's like you eliminate the salary cap.

Speaker 2 Or me and Big Cat talked about the running backs getting together, unionizing, all agreeing not to block. Yeah.
So that way, your quarterback is going to get hurt.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
No chip.

Speaker 1 The only thing about that is like you be friends with your, your, with you, with your, with your teammates. Yeah, they probably.
Sometimes it's like the players are against the management.

Speaker 1 You feel like that sometimes. You know what I mean? So you don't want to hurt your friends.
But I will tell you this. Maybe it's a thing of like in the NBA.

Speaker 1 So like certain players, they get a contract, but if they make first team or NBA, right?

Speaker 1 Or they may get an

Speaker 1 MVP, you get more money.

Speaker 1 I think it should be the same thing with football. All right, well, running backs, they're not valuing us the same.

Speaker 1 So how about we we we go out and improve it if we have this certain type of year we are allowed to get this side of money you get what i'm saying yeah yeah the incentive contract

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah because you look at the the top the top two to three running backs are at like 16 i think like 15 another like 13.

Speaker 1 but then because the the um the franchise tag is the average of the five highest paid so after them three the 16 15 i think it's like another 14 or 13 it goes down to like 11 12 10.

Speaker 1 That's why the number for the franchise tech is so small because of the last three guys,

Speaker 1 you know, in the top five. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Or maybe with the quarterbacks, they could put together GoFundMe and the quarterbacks could take some of their money and be like, we're going to do the right thing, pay the running backs.

Speaker 2 Daniel Jones knows in the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 Tom Brady would do that. Tom would do that.

Speaker 2 Tom would do that. People would do that.

Speaker 2 Or it's like, you ever go out to eat and on the receipt that they give you at the end of your meal, it says, we've added a 5% service charge to pay for cost of living or health care for the servers that served you tonight.

Speaker 2 If you don't want to include that, just let us know and we'll remove it. They should put that on the quarterback's contract and make the quarterbacks opt out of paying you guys extra money.

Speaker 1 That's a great idea because we do block for the quarterback. And then the two guys are named Josh Allen, Tom Brady would definitely do that.
Now, I'm not sure if

Speaker 1 Drew Brees would do that. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you know his backstory.

Speaker 1 you, so you just listed a few guys. You played with Josh Allen, you played with Patrick Mahomes, you played with Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Rank the three of them.

Speaker 1 Good question. In terms of guys, oh, just like just like people? Well,

Speaker 1 you can rate them however you want. We're going to cut that part and just put out here are LaShawn McCoy's rankings of these three guys.

Speaker 1 Rank them actually in terms of height. Rank them in height.

Speaker 1 And okay, I would go Tom Brady's the GOAT. No, no, no, height.
No, how tall they are. Physically, how tall.
Tall? Yeah, yeah. Tom, he's the tallest.
Tom is sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Josh? All right.

Speaker 1 Tom, tall. All right.
So, number one, Tom, number two

Speaker 1 is Josh. He's the second tallest.
Okay. No, you can't say you just ruined the clip.
You ruined the clip. I need to see.
What you just said, man.

Speaker 1 Just tell him, I need to see your advanced metrics on this.

Speaker 2 I just,

Speaker 1 yeah, I just want you. I want to have a clip of you saying Tom Brady, Josh Allen one, Tom Brady two, Patrick Romans three.

Speaker 1 Then we can put it out and be like, Look at LaShawn McCoy, this is how he ranks the quarterbacks. And everyone gets mad.
They're like, Josh hasn't won anything. What the hell?

Speaker 1 Right, right, right, right. Okay, you can do that.
We're tricking you. Yeah, no, no, but what the three of them, like, that is an incredible trio.

Speaker 1 Uh, is there one thing about them that is you could notice that is the same, like the way they practice or the way they carry themselves?

Speaker 1 The biggest, I think, uh, similarities from all of them, they are super competitive.

Speaker 1 Come on, it's funny, like Josh, I was with him first and like,

Speaker 1 we would have like games like basketball and he ain't no small joker.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? He bowing trying to lay it up. I was like, wow, this dude's a super competitor.

Speaker 1 Then I went to the Chiefs and just seeing how Patrick Holmes, like, Patrick Holmes is a nice guy. Don't get me wrong.
All the commercials and you smiling and playing. But when it's on, he's fired up.

Speaker 1 He's the competitor. He hates to lose.
That's probably the first time I've been around the team where where, like, we could be down, I don't know, 25, 27 points, 30 points. He don't mind.

Speaker 1 He's absolutely the same, same vibe. He's a competitor.
He knows he's going to win. And then I think Tom,

Speaker 1 he's the ultimate competitor. He's older than everybody on the field, coaches included.
And he has that kid drive to be outside. We're in Tampa.
It's hot as hell out there. And he's excited.
Right?

Speaker 1 He's 40. I'm like, this dude's 40 plus.

Speaker 1 And hate to lose, hate to lose practice, hate to lose

Speaker 1 anything, card games. Great personality, though, nice guy, but they all have that drive to win, and they're all competitive as hell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is funny because it is cliche to be like, they're so competitive, but I do think there is a difference where if you pulled every locker room in the NFL, there are some quarterbacks that they don't care about losing in a practice, in a practice rank, right?

Speaker 1 Or the losses don't

Speaker 1 oh, don't say that. That's my guy.
Come on, stop it. But, but you know, it's true.
Yeah. No, but of course.

Speaker 1 But listen, there are definitely, yeah, there are guys who like the losses don't hurt them as much.

Speaker 1 But those three guys, it seems like the losses just absolutely eat them alive every time they lose a single game. Yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of them dudes we're talking about, like, they hate to lose, bro. Like, that's,

Speaker 1 that's the, that's the first thing that jumps out. It's like, wow, they want to win at any cost, especially Tom.
Tom's like.

Speaker 1 I mean, he was like 45, still contemplating if he's going to play again. I'm like, dang.

Speaker 1 He loved this shit. He loved it.
He probably could, yeah.

Speaker 2 Is it okay if I gas you up real quick?

Speaker 1 I want to gas you up.

Speaker 2 Gas me up. Why not? All right, gas Shady up.
You were the best running back in the history of the NFL in the snow.

Speaker 2 Watching Shady in the snow.

Speaker 1 The Lions Eagles game? Oh, all of them. All of them.

Speaker 2 In Buffalo, he's going through, like, there was one game where there was like 18 inches of snow, it looked like on the ground.

Speaker 2 I used to always do the thing where you get tackled and you get up and there'd be snow pouring off your face mask.

Speaker 1 Everywhere, right?

Speaker 2 I would just, I would, I would put a meme on on it, just say, I fucking love cocaine because it looked like the cocaine bear with all that snow dripping off.

Speaker 2 But I loved watching you in the snow. What was it about you playing football in the snow that gave you a competitive advantage that other running backs sometimes don't seem to have?

Speaker 1 I'm from Pennsylvania. No, no, no, no.
That's not why, because I've never played in the snow before that game. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 It's more of a, I guess it's a confidence thing. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I've trained with like a lot of great running backs, trained with a lot of average running backs, And I always would be confident that no matter who I'm training with, because you know, like you hang out with guys.

Speaker 1 So like we might be in Miami and we might hang out the night before or whatever, and then all the guys come train. That's in Miami or you're in LA, all the guys running us to train in LA.

Speaker 1 So when I would train with these dudes, no matter who it would be, I knew my footwork would be better than everybody's. That was like my thing.
So

Speaker 1 I pride myself on snow, sleet, whatever it is, rain, not slipping, being able to run on any surface.

Speaker 2 Short, choppy steps.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yep, yep.
Don't never get outside, like the center. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like

Speaker 1 legs, shoulder width apart, never getting too wide. Stuff like that.
Two more running back stuff. Y'all don't want to hear about boring stuff.

Speaker 1 217 yards and two touchdowns in that game against the Lions on 29 carries. So seven and a half yards carry.
That was an unbelievable game.

Speaker 1 And they pulled me early. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yep. Chip Kelly, we had issues with certain times.
You know what I mean? He would take me out. All right.
Yeah, let's talk about Chip Kelly real quick because

Speaker 1 you played for, obviously, Andy Reid two times.

Speaker 1 And then you played for Chip Kelly.

Speaker 1 What is it about, I still think Chip Kelly is a great football coach, but there are certain guys that, you know, for whatever reason, going to the NFL, it just doesn't work out.

Speaker 1 What was it with Chip Kelly in the NFL that was different where you're like, ah, this is not going to,

Speaker 1 the guys just don't hear the message the same way?

Speaker 1 the issue with him what i realized is that um what great coaches have to be this is why belichek well other than tom brady being gone but um

Speaker 1 he he can't understand people right can't understand the players sure co-head coach it's your system

Speaker 1 but you still have to be able to adapt to the new culture andy reed is the best i got him at when i was 20 years old i was with him and he was wearing the the old pony sneakers remember that

Speaker 1 when i got one with the chiefs in 2019 this guy had on air force ones

Speaker 1 but i give you that re i tell you that story because he's adapting to the new culture

Speaker 1 right so how can i be a great coach if i can't understand my players chip kelly couldn't read the room he couldn't read his players some dudes like gold teeth with dread some guys like ball heads with whatever whatever it is rock and roll hip-hop andy reed he always just said hey listen guys I want y'all to let your personality show.

Speaker 1 Every game, he would say this.

Speaker 1 He said, be smart, let your personality show and have fun he's telling that because he wants you to be yourself right chip kelly has so many rules like he don't want guys wearing black socks he don't want guys listening if you don't have your headphones on you can't listen to music or you can't drive your new car to the game it's like my man we try to play football they pay us money to play they got fans it's simple he couldn't understand that and that's that's what the issue with him is because like every I mean, nobody really liked him on the team.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Are you saying that players don't like it when their head coach collects their piss every day and then analyzes it?

Speaker 1 That's another one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought it was a bit weird. Yeah.
You know what I mean? It is. No, you're right.
It's weird. It's definitely weird.

Speaker 1 Every morning at like 7 a.m.,

Speaker 1 he had these little guys running around here, like his runners, and they would say, Hey, Shady, good morning. The same routine every morning.

Speaker 1 Hey, Shady, good morning. I'm looking at him.
I'll be like, What's up, bro? I'm gonna need your piss. I say, Look, man, it's 7 a.m.
I didn't get the drink yet. See See me at 8.30.

Speaker 1 I'll have piss for you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's weird.

Speaker 2 Nobody wants to see that the first thing when they come to the office. All right, piss for me.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's a strange.

Speaker 2 What would he do with your piss? Did he just collect it or did he use it for?

Speaker 1 He would collect it and then they would see how much how hydrated you are. And then another thing is he would do this.
He would like, they would tie this thing, like a monitor or meter on our chest.

Speaker 1 For like, you got to lay down for like two minutes to see how much hours you slept last night. And at the time, like 23, 23, 22, I'm like, look, man, I ain't get no sleep.

Speaker 1 I've been at the club all night.

Speaker 1 We know

Speaker 1 I'm sleepy as hell. So, yeah, we know.
I mean, we know the famous party that seemed like a good time.

Speaker 2 Females only.

Speaker 1 Females only.

Speaker 1 I see y'all doing your homework. What are they doing?

Speaker 1 No, that was just us living during that time.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Fuck, I want to go to that.
Look,

Speaker 1 it kind of got like a misunderstanding. So

Speaker 1 I had a whole bunch of ball players coming. So this one was, I was with the Eagles.
So I had sixer players coming. I invited a couple guys from the Flyers.

Speaker 1 I had some Phillies at the time coming, right? I had my own friends. I had different rap artists come from Philadelphia, come from New York.
So it was a ton of guys. Right.

Speaker 1 There was no more need for no more brothers in the spot. You get what I'm saying? Yeah.
So we said, look, when y'all come here, all ladies only. Listen.
And it was at one of my houses.

Speaker 1 So I didn't want any randoms, you know, popping up.

Speaker 1 up i think if it said if it said ladies only on it that would have hit different females only was like it was very fast the females only party let's go yes and also like i remember when it happened i was like

Speaker 1 are people forgetting like that they went to college because that definitely happened in college where like oh can we come through it's like was it you and a bunch of dudes no Like that's how you go to a club.

Speaker 1 If you go to a club with 10 dudes, you're waiting in line for five hours. If you go to a club with 10 females, you're getting right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I messed up because I let one of my good friends, I let him

Speaker 1 run like the party and stuff. And he's been divorced four times.
So I should have knew better.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? He's been divorced four times. Come on.
You should have known that. Yeah.
Wait, so I want to go back to something because, so a couple of things. You're on TV now.

Speaker 1 You're doing a great job. There's rumors that you might be Skip's new co-host.

Speaker 1 What's your thoughts on LeBron James? Let's start there.

Speaker 1 He's one of the greatest players of all time. Okay, so you can probably get the job because that's what you need.
You need to be against Skip on that.

Speaker 1 You are young.

Speaker 1 I love the Eagles. All-time leader rush with the Eagles.
He likes Dallas. He likes Dak and other guys.
So, yeah, you have some spicy takes, and I appreciate a good take.

Speaker 1 Can I read a couple off that you just

Speaker 1 listen? Yeah. Say what you guys say.
Okay, so, well, no, it's what you had to say. You said, LaShawn McCoy said that Dak Prescott is ass.

Speaker 1 LaShawn McCoy calls the idea Bill Belichick's greatness bull crap

Speaker 1 um these are these are good takes I like calling a player ass yeah

Speaker 1 you can't debate ass yeah they are a lot of these are dishonest

Speaker 1 and dak the dak one was more he's playing like he's playing ass okay he's playing like ass yeah but if you're skip and you hear your co-host says Dak Prescott is ass yeah there's no coming back what do you say he is not ass yeah he's actually not like you can't debate against that you just brought him down a level that's brilliant come on man I'm about about to get a job right now.

Speaker 1 I like it you also said

Speaker 1 if anyone left you off the 101 best players in the NFL list, you call them a sucky nerd. I like that.
Anytime a player calls a n-

Speaker 1 Yeah, anytime a player calls like a list or a writer a nerd, I'm all in on that. That's very funny to me.

Speaker 1 I just, I always chuckle because it's like, it's like, yeah, I like we, you know, we didn't play professional football, so what the fuck? Like, we can talk about it.

Speaker 1 But if a professional football player is like, you guys are nerds, I'm like, yeah, okay, fair. Nah, nah, see, see, sometimes with these, but you read tweets, are you reading this,

Speaker 1 just all these headlines? Yeah, yeah, see, some of that be like,

Speaker 1 it's what's going on.

Speaker 1 Because, like, when I said that, I remember the first time I was like, uh, I think a rookie, and uh, we got rid of Rush Brook, and they were like, Oh, what are Eagles gonna do now?

Speaker 1 The running back game's gonna suck, and this and that. La Sean McCoy was not that good.
So I read it and I went to approach the guy that wrote it. And then when I seen him, he had a whole big gut.

Speaker 1 He had these big glasses going. I'm like, hold up.

Speaker 1 This is a nerd. I'm not about to argue with this guy.
You know what? That's your opinion. I'm going to keep.

Speaker 1 So after that, I've never argued with anybody in the media about their opinion because he taught me a lesson. Like, how are you going to tell me about running backs?

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I like it. He's called a guy a nerd is another one.
Like ass and nerd. You said winning these arguments.

Speaker 2 At PFF, you guys suck a bunch of nerds who have never played a lick of football in your whole life. That checks out to me.
But the counterpoint is, you ever go to a restaurant?

Speaker 2 Do you know which restaurants you like, which restaurants you don't like?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Are you a chef?

Speaker 1 Yes. Oh, okay.
All right. Well, that's my own.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're good at this debate. No, you're throwing everything I got at you, right? He's got great taste.

Speaker 1 Anybody ever played with me? They'll tell you I'm one of the best debaters of all time. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You had one other, one last one for the skip baylist.

Speaker 1 We're pumping you up because I want to see you going up against skip bayless because we also would would love to just feed you information, oppo research. But this one's from.

Speaker 1 Do you guys like Skip? I do. I respect him.

Speaker 1 I love Skip Bayless. Yeah, I respect what he does.
He pisses people off. A lot of people don't like him.
Well,

Speaker 1 he basically is, his job is to make people not like him. So he's really good at his job.
But either way, this is just a random tweet from 2013.

Speaker 1 Skip Bayless said, Peyton is doing what Peyton always does talking about a Broncos game, but Noshan is killing the Cowboys. And you just retweet, quote-tweeted it and said, Noshan sucks.
So

Speaker 1 you can debate.

Speaker 1 You go right to it. Like that, a lot of times guys will talk around it.
You just go right to it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what? I guess I'm just too honest sometimes, right? And then like I have, I won't say what players, but sometimes they'll be like, hey, man, Shady, take it easy on my teammate.

Speaker 1 And I'll be like, hold up. What did I say about your teammate? Because I'll be forgetting what I'd be saying.

Speaker 1 Well, he called him trash last week. I say,

Speaker 1 well, was he trash? And they'll laugh at me.

Speaker 1 See, every time I see a Cowboy fan, I could be anywhere in the world. They be like, stop talking about Cowboys.
And the next question, I say, what's the reason why y'all can't win a championship?

Speaker 1 I say, don't tell me nothing about no

Speaker 1 part office. I want to know about the players.
Do you know the first player they say?

Speaker 1 No. Dak Prescott.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I can't be making this up. Yeah.
No, you,

Speaker 1 I think that you need to be opposite Skip Bayless. I think it's a worthy foe.

Speaker 2 Yeah, one last question for the Skip Bayless test, though. What are your thoughts? You played with him, I believe, Tim Tebow.

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 which Tim Tebow, college or pro?

Speaker 2 Bro, because Skip thinks that he could still play.

Speaker 2 Skip thinks he could roll a ball out there with Tim Tebow. He'll get you.
He'll win the game. Satellite might not be pretty.
He's going to win.

Speaker 1 Ah, Tebow's bad, bad man. You got to be a desperate team to get Tebow.
Yeah, you are.

Speaker 1 He's honest.

Speaker 1 When you take Tebow, it's like

Speaker 1 you're just a great guy, or you just love Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 Because playing ain't the issue. He just,

Speaker 1 I don't know. He's not the good.
He's not the best. Yeah.
Well, that's trying to be nice. No, it's fine.

Speaker 2 It's honest. That's the other thing that Skip would disagree with.
He's the only person in the world that thinks LeBron James sucks at basketball and that Tim Tebow was really good in the NFL.

Speaker 2 Also, look at this. Look at this picture.
I don't know. Can we zoom in? This is Skip Bayless shirtless.

Speaker 1 Oh, hold up. Now,

Speaker 1 he didn't work out, though. Yeah, no, he's jacked.
He's jacked up. He's jacked up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He put his Jordans on. He's going to work out every morning.
Yep. I think you'd be great at this job.

Speaker 1 I think you'd be great at this job.

Speaker 1 So I want to go back to your playing career real quick. And so everyone talks about the Wildcat offense, and they talk about the Dolphins, but you were running it at Pitt like the exact same time.

Speaker 1 When you guys started doing the Wildcat at Pitt, did it feel kind of like cheating? Or was it like the best thing ever?

Speaker 1 Because it really did fuck defenses up for a while there where no one could figure it out. And it was awesome.
Those first few months when everyone's like, what the fuck is happening?

Speaker 1 Like the running back

Speaker 1 is running out of shotgun. This isn't fair.
How awesome was that feeling when you unveiled the Wildcat at pit and you were just running all over people? No, I loved it though.

Speaker 1 I mean, you typically do it when your quarterback's not that good. So we didn't have a lot of good quarterbacks.
So we ran the ball all the time. So we had to find different ways to run it.

Speaker 1 And the Wildcat is a perfect way to run the ball because now you gain an extra blocker. because I'm just running the ball.
I'm getting the ball direct snap.

Speaker 1 And when you set up the blocking schemes with the quarterbacks, you can never really block an extra guy or, you know, so now you put the quarterback all the way out, far out, and everybody else is just blockers.

Speaker 1 So I loved it. Yeah.
I loved it a lot.

Speaker 2 It does seem like a fun, fun thing to do, like a change of pace for a running back. We were gassing you up earlier, telling you how great you are.
We've done enough of that, I think.

Speaker 2 Why did you carry the football like a loaf of bread?

Speaker 2 Did you never learn ball security, Shady?

Speaker 1 I must have had bad coaches. no no no but look

Speaker 1 it's andy reed's fault okay see this is this is uh this is the example of knowing your players when my first um like training camp i had the ball kind of loose and my running back coach running after me hey tuck the ball tuck the ball and that's that's really natural and andy said and don't never yell he blew his whistle he said hey let him go he could call me over he said look Play your game, do what y'all do.

Speaker 1 But if you fumble, we're going to change up your whole running style. Now, I didn't really fumble the ball a lot as you can see my numbers so andy reed kind of got me playing like that

Speaker 1 every time you ran with the ball it was like oh he's gonna fumble he's gonna and then you never fumbled yeah i mean plus the defense ain't that smart you know defense they're taught speed ball run that ball storm the ball and then take it back make a miss yeah i never thought about that but yeah it makes sense you're doing you're basically playing the nfl being like look at my thumb gee you're dumb and like hitting him on the side of the head right touchdown Touchdown.

Speaker 1 Touchdown. That's how it works.
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Have you seen any good movies recently that you want to spoil?

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, hold up. Now, now that my son is of age, he always brings this up.
Yeah, so those people who don't know, yeah, all this YouTube stuff, right?

Speaker 1 All this YouTube, you know, clips of me talking about it and people talking bad about me. He all the time brings it up.
Dang, why'd you spoil the end game?

Speaker 1 You did.

Speaker 1 You did. You tweeted.
It was maybe 24 hours after the new Avengers. And what was the tweet? Damn, they did it.
It was a dog.

Speaker 2 It was R.I.P. My Dog, Tony Starr.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And everyone's like, what the fuck, dude so what did you

Speaker 1 what it happened when you hit send and then like you went back looked at your phone were you like whoops or you're like no it i just saw a movie i wanted to i want to pay respects to tony star if if it was today i wouldn't have did it i just i i guess i was dumb at it i was dumb at not knowing how big

Speaker 1 that that movie is i don't really watch I don't even want to call them kitty movies. I don't watch movies like that unless my son wants to go watch them.
You know, that's why we're going.

Speaker 1 And every time we would do uh, because my son speaks very well, right? Smart kid. We always do interviews at anything we do.

Speaker 1 After my games, he would interview me, dad, you fumble with the ball, you know. So it was a thing we do.
So after the

Speaker 1 movie, all movies we do interviews with each other, it's like a game we do. It just happened that that was one of the biggest movies that's been waiting, anticipated, and I'm the one that spoiled it.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'll be in the grocery store, old ladies, old man, be like,

Speaker 2 Shady, was that Shady McCoy?

Speaker 1 I'm thinking, like, yeah, it's me. You want a hug? You want a picture?

Speaker 1 Why did you play with that end game? I'm thinking like, oh.

Speaker 1 So I wish I never did it. Yeah.
That's one thing I wish I could take back.

Speaker 1 Okay, but for sure. Do you have another? You want to spoil a movie for us, please? One you seen recently? I just watched

Speaker 1 what movie we just watched, song? Oppenheimer. Mission Impossible.
Okay, what happened in the end of Mission Impossible? He died at the end.

Speaker 1 I'm lying. No, I'm lying.
I'm lying. He didn't die.

Speaker 1 No, he didn't die.

Speaker 2 Have you ever seen The Sixth Sense?

Speaker 1 The Sixth Sense? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, Oh, you have? Shit. Have you seen Fight Club?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Okay, there's the same character the entire time, Brad Pitt, and then the other guy.

Speaker 1 I've seen Fight Club.

Speaker 1 Did you see the episode of The Sopranos when Tony kills Christopher?

Speaker 1 No. Okay.
All right, when you get there, remember this moment, because it was a fucking unreal moment. Fail me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then at the end,

Speaker 2 it cuts to black at the end when they're in a diner and you don't know if Tony lives or dies. That's how the entire series ends.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Just after that you're not going to be able to do that.
I do remember that show. You should watch it.
I love that show, though. I'm big on mob movies.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm huge on them. Yeah, for sure.
I mean, it was, it was, I loved the, I love the moment just because it was ultimate chaos on the internet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You just, you just basically like, you know, pulled the pin, threw a grenade on the internet and walked away. Yeah, I wish I didn't do that.
You know what?

Speaker 1 My first, how about one of my teammates, Matt Barkley,

Speaker 1 was like, Shady, how could you? I don't know what he's about to ask me. I say, what? And then at the time, he's like younger.
I'm like, what? He's like, man, the end game.

Speaker 1 I said, Matt, if you say one thing to me about this show, movie, wherever it is, we're going to have problems. He left it alone.
But he really wanted to ask me, like, yo, why'd you spoil it?

Speaker 1 I didn't know it was that big, bro. I didn't know.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I had never seen any of those movies. So I thought it was funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's also probably why we didn't watch it.

Speaker 2 But if we were into it, we probably wouldn't have done this interview.

Speaker 1 I lost some money behind that. I had a deal with,

Speaker 1 was it Lexis?

Speaker 1 And we get to the ink to sign the contract, and somebody must have called down from the highest X. I'm like, hold up.
Trading McCoy. Oh, no, no, we can't sign him.
He stood the end game. I was so mad.

Speaker 1 That's a true story, though. I lost that deal because of that game.
That's probably some like rich executive son was like, no, fuck this. He ruined the movie for me.
You can't sign him.

Speaker 1 So you got like cucked by probably like a 15-year-old.

Speaker 1 Got me. Good money, too.
I didn't know that grown, a lot of grown-ups like

Speaker 1 green monsters running around. I didn't know it was, you know what I'm saying? I thought it was like a regular Spider-Man.
I didn't know. And also,

Speaker 1 I know now, though. That's so funny.

Speaker 2 And also, R.I.P., my dog, Tony Stark. He was just trying to be nice.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pay respects.

Speaker 1 He got the most swag, though. Can we say that? Tony Stark got the most swag.
A lot of swag.

Speaker 1 Got the ladies.

Speaker 1 He woody woody with the words.

Speaker 1 Got a lot of swag.

Speaker 1 Do you think you're Hall of Famer? They should have took Captain America, not Tony Stark.

Speaker 1 Hall of Fame, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Kids, pitch us, because you said Julian Edelman, who's a friend of ours, is not a Hall of Famer, but you are. Another spicy take from LaShawn.

Speaker 1 See how these people do me? I'm a friend of Julian Edelman, first of all. And the question was,

Speaker 1 I said, well, I don't think he's Hall of famer. I think he's a hell of a player, though, which he is.

Speaker 1 Hall of Fame is like, you know, it's like the best of the.

Speaker 1 And I like Julian. So it wasn't like I was trying to hate on him.
And they only showed one part of the interview that I said it. You know how they do that.

Speaker 1 They cut it off. Anyway, I mean, I would say, yeah, I mean, I got 15,000 on purpose yards, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm an all-decade running back.

Speaker 1 I got some pro bowls, got some all-pros.

Speaker 1 You know, you look at my work collectively, like I was one of them guys where you look at all these other dudes, they surrounded by a whole bunch of great players or they got a million carries.

Speaker 1 That's not me. Yeah, I don't have a lot of carries.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? And I was productive anywhere I went. And I think that, you know, you add all my accolades.
I mean, I got a Russian title, right, to go along with that.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, I think, yeah, I think the guys that's in the Hall of Fame. If I had to compare myself to him, it's like, why not?

Speaker 1 You did end with exactly 15,000 yards uh from scrimmage when you were deciding to retire did that actually play into it because it would for me i'd be like wait i'm exactly on that number like i'm sticking that's awesome yeah it did you know what i wanted to come back i want to get 12 000 yards and i think i had um patriots jets

Speaker 1 uh the raiders

Speaker 1 and some other team that wasn't that good that wanted me but i was like man i'm gonna go there we're not none of the teams are really good teams and like if i'm going to just get stats, I'm going to be the backup.

Speaker 1 So I'm not going to get a lot of carries. So I'm going to add on to the yardage.
But am I going to have fun compared to, you know,

Speaker 1 being with the Bucks? I didn't play a lot, but it was a fun team. It was an older team.
We all got along. And we were going for a championship where the other teams weren't.

Speaker 1 So the yardage, I had the 15,000 and all the other accolades. I said, I'm just going to.
retire. I had some TV stuff going on anyway.
So I just did that. I just said, I'm good.
I'm retired.

Speaker 1 What about a Hall of Fame moment?

Speaker 2 Or I mean, you were a great juker, you had some of the best jukes in the game. Do you have a favorite juke, a favorite move you ever put on somebody?

Speaker 1 Uh, I got a couple, man. I own the Jacksonville game, I forget what year it was, uh, 2014,

Speaker 1 and um, it was a play up the middle, man. I shit like four, four or five dudes.

Speaker 1 They was like unblocked, you know. I mean, we got a safety, I was just making a mess.

Speaker 1 And then another one I got against

Speaker 1 Washington

Speaker 1 and Washington

Speaker 1 against

Speaker 1 D'Angelo Hall.

Speaker 2 There was holding on that play, though.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 I hit it with the left, right, left, right.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? I had a lot of good shakes, though. I would see, I'm like, I like to have fun.
So I'll shake a guy. I'm like, damn, did you see that move?

Speaker 1 How'd you survive that move? You heard?

Speaker 1 You know. I mean, you also had the great, like, cut on a dime for your Twitter handle.

Speaker 1 That's as cool as it could get. My brother gave me that name.
Luckily, it made sense. Yeah.
And you did it cut on a dime. Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
And then, and your mother gave you shady, right?

Speaker 1 My mom did. Yeah, she did.

Speaker 1 She said I was a shady baby at times. Your vibes are off?

Speaker 1 Not like that no more.

Speaker 1 But I was. Yeah, well, how so? Like, you just, you weren't vibing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it'd be like, you know,

Speaker 1 one moment I want to talk to my dad and be around him. The next moment I'll be with my mom.

Speaker 1 The next moment I won't be with neither.

Speaker 1 He just acts so shady, and then just carried over to like friends, you know, neighbors, teachers. Yeah, it just carried on.

Speaker 2 It's like this baby's got something else going on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what his angle is.
The vibe is off with this baby. Smiling to stop smiling, you know.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I just old. I ain't shady no more, though.

Speaker 2 I just wanted to read your high school stat line to you real quick. From 2003, you played in 10 games and you had 2,561 yards with 28 touchdowns.

Speaker 2 Then the next year, you played in 13 games, you had almost 3,000 yards and you had 31 touchdowns.

Speaker 2 How annoying was it for other teams to have to play against you? Were other parents were like, this isn't fair?

Speaker 1 Nah, where I'm from, we got a lot of good football. Like, Michael Parsons is from my hometown.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? We got a lot of good. Ricky Waters from my hometown.
Right now, Shane Gillis.

Speaker 1 Who? Shane Gillis.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, yes. Right now, in my high school, we got

Speaker 1 two

Speaker 1 all-Americans in my high school, wide receiver and quarterback. The quarterback's probably gonna be the best player

Speaker 1 to ever come from from the mid-seat. And that's saying a lot.
Dude, you know, we see ballers. We got NBA, we got women NBA players, right?

Speaker 1 We got players that used to seeing guys like me. You know, I'm good, but there's some other guys that's probably better.
Pennsylvania is football. It is.

Speaker 1 Like, that is, that stretch of Pennsylvania to Ohio is that's football. 5,000, 6,000, 8,000 come to watch me play.
You know, like, I remember Pete Carroll came to my high school to recruit me. And

Speaker 1 when I was leaving out after the game, I probably put up like 300 yards, you know, something like that. And he's like, man, I'm thinking about to tell me how good I did, right?

Speaker 1 You know, he's like, I'm so impressed with the fans here. Like, the fans? So he had so many people here for a high school game.

Speaker 1 I was so surprised. I was like, well, in Pennsylvania, like, like, we play football there.
That's her, that's her thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
Do you remember the best game you ever had?

Speaker 1 In high school? Yeah, or just in your entire career?

Speaker 2 What's the best game you ever played?

Speaker 1 I think I had

Speaker 1 tallied up to about like 500 yards, I think, in a playoffs game against Central Dolphin. I think it had like 300 rushes, maybe 200 receivers, something like that.
Four or five touchdowns.

Speaker 1 We won the game.

Speaker 2 I would hope so. That must have ruled.

Speaker 1 But, but

Speaker 1 I'm not a stats guy. This for the record.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Not a stats guy.
All right. I had one last question.
This has been awesome, LaShawn. By the way, you are a recurring guest now.

Speaker 1 So whenever we want you back on, you have to come up with me. Bring me on, baby.
Let's do it. Yes.
And there's been a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 I'm going to try to pull along either Skit Bayless or Emmanuel Acho. We'll bring one of them guys with me.
Emmanuel Acho has me blocked, but that's fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me too. Yeah.
I can't remember what. Yeah, blocked the block.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, because it was that highlight tape he made of Calvin Ridley being like, tell me he isn't throwing games. And it was like, it was like two clips.

Speaker 1 And I was like, dude, what are you saying right now? Like, this is crazy. And then he blocked me.
So,

Speaker 1 you know what it is? That's why we got a good teamwork because when I'm wrong, he'll tell me. And if he's wrong, I'll tell him.
And it's still. Well, he's wrong all the time.

Speaker 1 You have to tell him that like constantly.

Speaker 2 What did you think about when he said Shakari Richardson shouldn't be allowed to compete in the Olympics?

Speaker 2 Because it's one thing for a basketball player to smoke weed, but if it's track and field and you could get high and then throw a javelin, you could kill somebody.

Speaker 1 That's what he said? Yeah, that's what he said. Listen, Emmanuel Ocho has some takes too.
Like, I kind of respect his takes, even though you shouldn't block people, but he does have some spicy takes.

Speaker 1 He gets the people talking.

Speaker 1 I'll say this about Acho, man. He's really, really good at his job.
I'll tell you that. And he's very intelligent.

Speaker 1 But we, you know what? I will say this on TV.

Speaker 1 I'm learning because I just think that people on TV is all tripping, but we all have the moments where we might say something that other people were not feeling. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I get it all the time, you know? So I guess if I don't agree, I don't agree with that, with his take on the, on Shakira. I don't agree with that, but

Speaker 1 if that's how he felt, you know, the stand, all I asked to stand on what people say. Yeah.
You get what I'm saying? People say something, but then they see a person in person,

Speaker 1 the individual person, and then they act like they're insane. They're like, hold up.
Like, I've seen Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 at like a uh at radio row and he wasn't eager to talk to me i i get it i said some things about his game. He don't want to talk to me.
So I understand it, but just don't be upset.

Speaker 1 Like, why do you want to speak to me? That's the only thing I hate when people have these outrageous or outlandish

Speaker 1 statements about the game or players and et cetera. Yeah, no, it's absolutely fair.
And you're right. I mean, we built this entire show on being very dumb and having terrible takes.

Speaker 1 So you're preaching to the choir. Yeah, funny, though.

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Speaker 1 You played so many years in the NFL, so many different teammates. Who's the best football player? Can't let's say no quarterbacks.
Best football player that you played with.

Speaker 1 The best footballer I've ever played with. Yes.
All right. All right.
I'm going to give you two of them. My best teammate I ever had.

Speaker 1 Now, this is making my best friend, but my best teammate, a guy like Mike Evans. Okay.
I mean,

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 this dude's like a great person, like,

Speaker 1 buying stuff for the starters, buying stuff for the practice squad, everybody. Like, holidays, Christmas gifts.
You know, we didn't meet who wants the ball.

Speaker 1 Now, I went Antonio Brown, so he wants the ball, right? Mike's like, well, look, man.

Speaker 1 If he wants the ball, give it to him.

Speaker 1 Like, damn. I'm used to wide receivers wanting the ball.
Mike was so

Speaker 1 selfless. It was amazing, bro.
Like,

Speaker 1 I've never seen a player like him. And I'm going to say my best player ever played with was

Speaker 1 no quarterbacks right no quarterbacks

Speaker 1 it's a dude named jason peters oh yeah he's a uh an offensive lineman yeah

Speaker 1 beast beast absolute best player i ever played with playing against dudes like bob millers to to demarcus where when demarcus wear was like that no double teams he would yell at me if i would go chip block for him Shady, get your little S away from here.

Speaker 1 And he would block one-on-one. So he's probably my my best player i ever played with i think the second i have to give it to uh

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 either deshaun jackson or travis kelse okay good yeah i like though the offensive lineman pick because that always is you know people people don't give him love and but when it comes down to it i feel like those elite elite offensive linemen uh when players talk about him they're like yeah it's just different it's different how they are you know when they're on the field and what they can do for the game

Speaker 1 he was so good like when players get hurt i check on them hey you cool you good all right because we know guys don't miss games that's that's football right just get better bro he's the only guy when he would get hurt oh yo you all right man how you how you feeling how the ankle looking how's your back you good because i knew if he was playing i'm easy on get 80 yards 70 yards from just his side right

Speaker 1 you know what i mean yeah i had to make sure he was he was playing anything to drink

Speaker 1 he's the only guy that I made sure I know what he needed. What was he doing on the offseason? Yo, how you feeling, big guy? You good? Because I know what type of player he was.

Speaker 1 So he's probably the best player I ever played with.

Speaker 2 You get to see him up close, especially in the screen game when

Speaker 2 you were really good at like selling, staying in for a little bit, then turning around. Then you get him out in front of you.
And then it looks easy from that point.

Speaker 1 And he's, and he's, and he's fast. Listen, he used to play tight end in college.
He's one of them guys. Yeah.
Play tight end. Probably wasn't really that, like, he was good, but he wasn't a beast.

Speaker 1 And then gained some weight, played tackle. He had great feet.
He was quick. He was fast.
Get him on them screens. He was dumping dudes with one hand.

Speaker 1 He's so good. He's still playing today.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. He is.
Well, Shady, this has been awesome. I think you are absolutely ready for the Skip Bayless co-hosting job.

Speaker 1 You have not only the takes, but even one thing you did that's very underrated just the random shot of Jay Cutler for no reason That's a that's a sign of being like a always media professional, which I didn't appreciate, but that's fine, but that is like I feel like Jay gets more random shots than any quarterback ever So yeah, you're ready for it.

Speaker 1 You're ready for the job. I didn't you know what I like Jay Cutler, though.
I think he's an element player. I didn't even know that

Speaker 1 man I've been hanging out with Brandon Marshall too much. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So all the bad Jay Cutler takes, I get from him. So it's like, you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Listen, when he said, does the bad Jay Cutler takes, just be like, hey, Brandon, what was your favorite playoff game you played in?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 see, that's a low blow right there. Okay, but that's what I'm saying.
I could learn from you.

Speaker 1 Yes.

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We definitely want you back on. So, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Mount Rushmore time.

Speaker 1 It is time for the Mount Rushmore of easy tasks that make you feel accomplished. I like this Mount Rushmore.
It's going to be a fun one.

Speaker 2 Doing a podcast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, complimenting Hank. Hank, you look good today.
Thanks, Dan. I feel accomplished.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Hank, you're barely sunburned.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's good.
That means I'm tan. I'm tanned.
Tan.

Speaker 1 What's the order here?

Speaker 2 In the last one we recorded, Billy and I went first. Hank and Max second.
Big Cot PFC's third.

Speaker 1 So Big cot believe you guys are first no no Hank's first Hank's first we're second well Hank and Max Hank and Max

Speaker 1 yeah Hank Max is just the forgotten man of this team gross okay all right so I'll let Max

Speaker 1 all right here we go

Speaker 2 take the second one do the second one

Speaker 1 hank hasn't forgotten me but the rest of this podcast has it's yeah no I just said Max

Speaker 1 no Hank is point guard But

Speaker 1 I'm still a role player.

Speaker 2 I forgot about you, Max.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. Thanks, Bill.
You're Ben Wallace?

Speaker 1 Sure. Ben Wallace was a great.
Yeah. Probably the best role player of all time.

Speaker 2 You're Kenny Lofton Jr.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
It's just thick in the paint.

Speaker 1 You're that kid from Division III. Remember him? Who's like 400 pounds?

Speaker 2 Oh, the guy that Zion was dunking on? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, no, it was a different guy. The kid in Buffalo.
Yeah. I mean, he was nice.
Big cat, go one episode without calling me Fat Challenge.

Speaker 1 I didn't last episode. Sickening.

Speaker 1 My flip-flops. That was pre-show.
That was a awesome. The flip-flops looked bad.
Months ago. Yeah,

Speaker 1 monsters.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hank, you're up.
All right. There's not a clear 1-1 of this in my mind, which maybe is incorrect.

Speaker 1 And I feel pretty good about not losing the Mount Rushmore, so I think I'm just going to go fast and loose here. Okay.

Speaker 1 Showering. Ooh.

Speaker 1 Nothing like you did shower. There's nothing easier than taking a shower.
And, you know, it doesn't matter what time of day it is. If maybe you're hungover, you just sit on the couch all day.

Speaker 1 Take a shower at 4 o'clock. It's the beginning of the the day.
Yeah, that's good. It's a whole new day, fresh outlook on life.
It's like, it's like going to Mark Kent going into the phone booth. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You ever like taking a shower at night right before you go to bed?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it feels good. It's a good feeling.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hop into a clean bed, your body's clean.

Speaker 1 After like a long, hard day of

Speaker 1 podcasting? Yeah. In the mines.
You ever take a shower at night and then wake up and you're like, I still need to take a shower in the morning. Just because.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 The post-yard work shower is a good shower.

Speaker 1 I don't understand. I think this was one of those memes, the red pill, blue pill meme from like maybe six months ago.
People who shower at night and people shower in the morning.

Speaker 1 We had this exact debate on the shower. Yeah, I don't understand for the life of me anyone who doesn't shower in the morning.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you got to shower in the morning before you go to work.

Speaker 1 Then you go home, maybe you work out, then you shower before bed. That's totally fine.
But I would feel like just doo-doo going to work without showering first. Unaccomplished, would you say?

Speaker 1 Unaccomplished. Yeah.
Okay, good pick. I think we'll go with our 1-1.
That's a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Unsubscribing to spam emails. One of my favorite, easy tasks that just makes you feel awesome.
When you have your entire email inbox,

Speaker 1 memes is shaking his head. He's like, good one.

Speaker 1 Because you know that moment where you're like, I got to unsubscribe for some of these. Hit it, do a mass one.
Oh, you feel like you conquered the world. But I feel like it never works these days.

Speaker 1 They somehow find a way. It works.
It has to.

Speaker 2 I think that's outdated. Why? Because most mail services like Gmail filter those all out already.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm doing. No, not for me.
If you buy like anything online, you get an email about it for the rest of your life.

Speaker 2 Yep, here's the first five things in my inbox I just opened up.

Speaker 1 I could do this all day.

Speaker 2 Yeah, hymns, don't ask. Peloton, hymns again, don't ask.
Barstool Sports, and then something called GoFobo Screenings. I don't think it's a movie thing.

Speaker 1 I got Expedia. This is great.
F45. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Voodoo. Okay.
Swing pass golf.

Speaker 1 No idea what that is.

Speaker 1 And Adobe.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so it very much still is a thing.

Speaker 1 Here's mine. I got,

Speaker 1 let's see, I have

Speaker 1 Chicago Blackhawks, Honey Grow,

Speaker 1 Evolve. I don't know what Evolve is.
Do you guys know what Evolve is? Paramount Plus, Washington Post, Nomad London. Never stayed there.

Speaker 1 Something called Valon.

Speaker 2 You should unsubscribe for the Nomad London.

Speaker 1 Coaching You, Outerknown. This is it's bad.
Something called. Coaching You is because of me.

Speaker 2 I signed you up for a coaching symposium at the Final Four.

Speaker 1 God damn it.

Speaker 1 See, this is what I'm talking about. Something called Steven Che,

Speaker 1 Instacart. It's just on and on.
I need to do it. Like, I have to do it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, Billy, I don't know. You're just not going, you're just not getting yourself out there.

Speaker 2 You're not signed up for enough stuff.

Speaker 1 It is the ultimate, like, buy a t-shirt online. Sign up for it.

Speaker 1 And I know that you can click a box, but I always miss it at the end because they'll trick you with like terms and services and also that other box and you'll just like you'll just get emails forever i got one the other day that was actually like it was like they tried to reverse psychology you and to like click this for i forget how it was worded but it was a way that was worded where it was like they wanted you to click it to get the emails knowing that people don't right right click here if you don't want to be bothered by not saving money yeah also uh a sub subset of this uh exact rush more is is when you find the email where they make the unsubscribe like hidden and then when you find it you're like yes got it you fuck it you fuckers tried to get me.

Speaker 1 You know, when they'll put it, like, really tiny font and like hide it in like somewhere in a paragraph.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I just got one from Trump.

Speaker 1 It's time, it's time to take America. He's back, he's back.
Yep,

Speaker 1 I bet you I'll get like three more in the course of this Mount Rush war. Okay,

Speaker 1 yeah, are we with those two? I want that one, Rogue.

Speaker 2 No, you want, I don't, that's

Speaker 1 a good one.

Speaker 2 I don't think it's a good one.

Speaker 1 We stink. Go.

Speaker 2 This

Speaker 2 Cleaning up around the house. Just getting things tidy, your room, you know, like clean house, clean mind.

Speaker 1 I think it needs to be more specific than that.

Speaker 2 Cleaning up around the house. Are you talking like dustpan? Are you talking vacuuming? Are you talking about the house?

Speaker 2 No, I'm just like taking off all the dirty clothes and putting them in the laundry hamper. Laundry.
Cleaning the dishes.

Speaker 1 You can't get that's so many things.

Speaker 2 I actually agree with Max on this because pick one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Putting, taking the clothes off the floor and putting ah, shit. Ah, fuck.

Speaker 1 Is that what we got? We're getting veto?

Speaker 1 No, just doing the laundry is one. Doing the dishes is just cleaning your room.
Cleaning your room. There you go.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 2 I was going to suggest that that's a good.

Speaker 1 There's multiple things that can be done. Like, you're not.
No one's cleaning their whole house.

Speaker 1 You don't live in a house.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he's also like sweeping up after your hedgehog. That's part of cleaning your house.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Taking the weights off the squat rack. No rack in them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, moving the weights from the squat rack so that you can cook eggs.

Speaker 1 All right, next one.

Speaker 1 I think that's a good one, Billy. Okay, go rogue.
He's going rogue. That's not rogue.
I had it.

Speaker 2 Jake doesn't go rogue.

Speaker 1 He's going very rogue. Calling your parents.
Yeah. That's a good one.
That's a good one. Because if you call them, it makes you feel good.
It does. Agreed.
Keep in touch with them every day.

Speaker 2 I have a reminder in my phone, 7 p.m., call the family every day. That's a very good thing.
Just in case I have a bad thing.

Speaker 1 That makes you feel bad. Every day? Every day is a good thing.
No, sometimes I screw it up, but

Speaker 1 it's just a reminder.

Speaker 1 I need to call my mom. Can we take a break? Yeah.
My dad's definitely going to text me after this.

Speaker 1 Jake calls every day.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Jake. I think it's important.
It is still accomplished. It is easy.

Speaker 2 It's maximum, sometimes 60 seconds.

Speaker 1 But you should call your parents more than you think. Yeah.

Speaker 2 They want to hear from you.

Speaker 1 It's easy. They have to be so annoyed.
Told you, Billy. I can cook.
They have to be so annoyed.

Speaker 2 He's cooking. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Let Jake cook.

Speaker 1 He's got to be like, oh, not again.

Speaker 1 Every single day.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you pick one. I'll pick one.
Okay.

Speaker 2 No, we're just...

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, we only have one. We only have one.

Speaker 2 I think we're going number 10.

Speaker 1 I like number 10. I think we get that way later.
You think so? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. I like four.
Four's an easy one.

Speaker 2 Yeah, four's good.

Speaker 1 You know what? Go with what you want.

Speaker 2 You know what? I'm going to go 14.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm going to go 14.
Okay, do it.

Speaker 2 Are these numbers real?

Speaker 1 Are these numbers real?

Speaker 1 They're all real.

Speaker 1 I like left the room. I love this one.
I love this one for us.

Speaker 2 Mowing the lawn. Mowing the lawn feels great.

Speaker 1 Awesome. Who's the last time you mowed the lawn? Yeah.
Great question.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 let's not be fucking

Speaker 1 big city boy elites. We got a lot of listeners out there that mow lawns.
Mowing the lawn. That live in suburbs, that live in country.
This isn't pandering.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just saying, like, you guys are thinking about just us. There's a whole country out there, Matt.
It's an easy task to make you feel comfortable. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And hey, have you ever mowed the lawn? It feels awesome.

Speaker 1 I mowed madness.

Speaker 2 I've lived in multiple homes where I had to mow the lawn, and it's such a great feeling when you're done. You look at your lawn, everything looks perfect.

Speaker 1 It's the best.

Speaker 2 It's like taking a shower for your yard. Yeah.
Put in terms you can understand.

Speaker 1 Also, not that easy of a task. But hang on.
It's pretty easy to land.

Speaker 1 That takes.

Speaker 1 It might be hard for a dummy like you. For somebody without a bad thing.
And also, if you know weed whacking, if you know weed whacking the edges at the end, like that's it's a waste of time.

Speaker 1 Well, Well, that's good, too. Maybe, maybe do it.
But that's a whole task.

Speaker 1 You can do weed whack easy. That is not an easy task.
That is a chore.

Speaker 1 That's a chore. Weeding your bag.
So is cleaning up your room.

Speaker 2 It's honestly pathetic how hard you guys have to try to find something wrong with our picks.

Speaker 1 That's a good pick.

Speaker 1 That's subpar.

Speaker 1 You're so dumb, you don't know how to mow a lawn. Oh,

Speaker 1 I never mowed a lawn. Nice answer.

Speaker 1 You'd cut off your toes with those fucking flip-flops. All right, we got two here.

Speaker 1 Whose whose picks are these these are me and max's our first one is going to be doing laundry okay okay good one good one always feels good taking the laundry off off the ground throwing in the hamper yeah washing it yeah good pick not easy clean boxers clean socks nothing better but also not easy i agree it's time consuming it doesn't you don't do it that often i do laundry the actual

Speaker 1 laundry is like 15 minutes wait a while talk about coastal elites and like this is you know when i felt like i was making it in life because when when we moved to New York, I would have to go to a laundromat.

Speaker 1 Then I was doing laundry like once a month. That was when I just left 10 pounds of clothes in Brooklyn when I moved.

Speaker 1 Once I moved into an apartment with laundry in my unit, that's when I was like, oh, I can do laundry all the time. Felt like an absolute school.
We should actually do a Mount Rushmore life upgrades.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because

Speaker 1 another one is like

Speaker 1 my old apartment didn't have a garbage disposal.

Speaker 2 Oh, it's so that I got one.

Speaker 1 I was like, this fucking rules.

Speaker 1 This is going to be the first time I'll have an in-unit washer and dryer in my new apartment and it's gonna be a studio i'm thinking about not getting a laundry basket and all of my dirty clothes just go into the washer smart not gonna last yeah no that doesn't but smart thought doesn't that's a good thought doesn't that sound smart i feel like

Speaker 1 i feel like it's not gonna last you know what that's the difference

Speaker 1 so many piles your studio apartment is gonna become your laundry yes no no no that's piles that thing's gonna be clean i i

Speaker 1 needed probably it was in my in my budget was studio apartment I was like, this is just gonna become a bomb scene if I move into this. Like, if one room is my whole room, nah, scary stuff.

Speaker 1 Next pick, going for a long walk. Nice.
Oh, we had that.

Speaker 1 We got something better.

Speaker 2 Billy wanted going for a run.

Speaker 1 A run is not easy at all. It's not easy at all.
We were not taking that.

Speaker 2 That's what I was saying to him.

Speaker 1 Okay. Like, I want to take going for a long time.
A walk is a good pick. A run is not easy.

Speaker 1 I have something similar, but I think it's different enough that it should count. Walking the dog.

Speaker 1 Very easy task that when you are like, hey, I walked the dog today. Well, it depends on how big the poop is.
Well, yeah, but that's pretty easy to pick off.

Speaker 1 There's also probably a lot of listeners that don't have dogs. Oh, okay.
Yeah. Well, you feel like...
We know you weren't going to pick walking the dog.

Speaker 2 When you walk your dog, you feel like you've done something good for somebody else, too.

Speaker 1 Max is like walking the dog to the kill shelter.

Speaker 1 Wrong. Don't have a dog.

Speaker 2 You choke chain?

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. I'm not going to disparage.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say? I'm not going to.

Speaker 1 I think going to

Speaker 1 play is so good. Walking your dog is a great, easy task.
What are you going to say, Hank? Especially.

Speaker 2 I want to know what Hank was going to say.

Speaker 1 I don't want to to disparage. No, no, go ahead.

Speaker 1 If I was going to disparage, I would say

Speaker 1 the Mel Rushmore is things that make you feel accomplished. That is, you're doing that for your dog.
No, but you feel good about what you've done for your dog. You're not doing that for yourself.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. You need to do that for your dog.

Speaker 2 You need to learn how to be selfless because making somebody else feel good makes you feel good.

Speaker 1 Also, hold on. Hold on one second.
It's also, if you are someone who's in a relationship

Speaker 1 and you have a dog, or even if you have kids and a dog, taking care of the dog becomes like the thing that no one wants to do at some point when you have kids, and you're like, if you do it constantly, you get a check.

Speaker 1 Easy check. Took the dog out.
Easy. And you get the accomplishment of going for a walk yourself.
Correct.

Speaker 1 Oh, our pick. Continue.
Oh, but now we're actually saving a dog. But

Speaker 2 your pick is just a bonus for our pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's how good our pick is.

Speaker 1 There's two birds, one stone. Yeah, we completely embraced your pick.
We did everything. We're efficiency.
So our pick continued. Not only did you walk, yeah, we took your pick and

Speaker 1 supercharged it. No, you took our pick.

Speaker 2 Your pick is a nice little add-on for our pick that we also get.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 2 We're the first one and the last one.

Speaker 1 But the thing is, that includes going there and getting them and coming back.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. Go rogue.

Speaker 1 Go rogue. You got it, Jake.
Go rogue. All right, we'll do the safe one first.

Speaker 2 The first one we're going to do is reading current events. It's important

Speaker 1 to pass.

Speaker 1 Bill, you like that one. Don't do that.
Okay. Reading current events.

Speaker 2 The New York Times daily briefing. It takes five minutes.

Speaker 1 I don't trust the New York Times. They try to take time.

Speaker 2 Watching the news. You put it on for five minutes.

Speaker 2 Checking the bar stores.

Speaker 1 I hold grudges. I hold grudges.

Speaker 2 It's an easy task that can make you feel accomplished.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Good pick. No, that's a good pick.
That's a pick.

Speaker 1 I don't know what to

Speaker 1 pick.

Speaker 2 Good pick. Pick.

Speaker 1 It was a pick. That's a pick.

Speaker 1 You made a pick.

Speaker 1 It's not a bad pick. It's just the news sucks.

Speaker 1 It makes you feel anxiety. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next pick.

Speaker 1 You guys got it. You guys got it.

Speaker 2 Getting a quick workout in.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 That makes sense.

Speaker 1 It feels really accomplished.

Speaker 2 It's a work easy.

Speaker 1 All right, give us another pick. You guys get another chance.

Speaker 1 We have a good list. Yeah, give us another chance.

Speaker 1 We'll pick the better of the two.

Speaker 1 Putting away the groceries.

Speaker 1 Okay. That was my 1-1.

Speaker 1 That was your 1-1. What was up there? It was on the list.

Speaker 2 I don't know what to pick. I don't either.

Speaker 2 I would say putting away the groceries just because getting a quick workout is not an easy task.

Speaker 1 For you, you're a gym guy.

Speaker 2 You can get a good one either.

Speaker 1 50, I think we go with 10.

Speaker 2 I was going to say 17 or 18.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, let's go. Yeah.
You pick. You decide.
All right.

Speaker 2 Rolling a perfect joint. Yeah.
Rolling a nice, clean joint.

Speaker 1 is a great, easy task.

Speaker 2 Easy task.

Speaker 1 You must feel very accomplished. Yep.

Speaker 2 And then everyone. Smoking weed makes you feel accomplished?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well,

Speaker 1 preparing to smoke it. Preparing the weed.
Then you smoke it and you're like, I've done everything. I've rolled that sick joint.
Quick workout.

Speaker 2 It's basically like you're a farmer.

Speaker 1 I'm on Team Billy here. Much more accomplished is working out.

Speaker 1 You've got

Speaker 1 a pink nose. Rolling a joint's way easier than working out.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure that much for a fact. And when you roll a perfect one, you feel a sense of accomplishment.
Yeah. Yeah, you earn it.
But then you're... No, no.
But then you, then you...

Speaker 1 Then you're chilling. You guys are cops that don't smoke.
No, but that's not accomplishment at all.

Speaker 1 You've never rolled a perfect joint.

Speaker 1 Have you ever rolled a joint? Not a good one. Okay, exactly.
So someday when you roll a perfect one, call me on that day.

Speaker 2 Pouring a perfect pint.

Speaker 1 Well, you already had two pins in the last one. Okay.

Speaker 2 But when you roll a perfect joint,

Speaker 2 you've created art, and then you get to smoke it.

Speaker 1 And there's a lot of times where you don't roll the perfect joint. You're like, fuck, this sucks.

Speaker 1 Hank knows. Hank knows.
No, I mean, you guys, I'm again not going to disparage.

Speaker 1 Whatever.

Speaker 1 No, what were you going to say? It's a good pick. What are you going to say, Hank? I don't think either of you guys can roll good joints, so I don't know how much experience I've had.

Speaker 1 I have rolled perfect joints before. Hand up, I'm not good at rolling joints.

Speaker 1 But when you roll a good one, have I rolled these joints? Yeah. I've rolled

Speaker 1 at least a half dozen perfect joints in my life, and every time I felt great.

Speaker 2 You almost don't want to smoke it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You just want to look at it.
Easy, that's an easy task then. If you've done it six months, everybody calls it more.
No, that is pretty easy, though.

Speaker 2 Everyone that comes to the house, look at this joint that I rolled two weeks ago. Yeah, how nice is that? That's so easy.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 2 shut the fuck up, Max.

Speaker 1 I bet I can rip, cut his mic off.

Speaker 1 Let's keep it simple here. Taking out the trash.
Okay, good pick. Good pick.

Speaker 2 I can't believe that fell so low.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was good. That's good value.
That was stupid.

Speaker 2 Good fourth-round value.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to disparage it, but I like to recycle.

Speaker 1 Other things that we missed.

Speaker 1 Cleaning up after a bachelor party probably doesn't happen enough, but that is one of the all-time feelings of Vuka. That sounds like a chore.
No, but like

Speaker 1 when you're the first up and you clean up all the cans, you feel like you're the king of the day. You basically get a free reign for the rest of the day.

Speaker 2 Everyone's like, oh my God, how did you do that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just woke up 30 minutes early. You have to do like a beer run or a food run.
You don't have to do that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No one take dishes. No one took dishes.
That's cleaning the house. Dishes, nothing.

Speaker 2 Flipping a pancake perfectly.

Speaker 1 That's a good feeling too yep good feeling um no yeah well like just in the pan

Speaker 1 when you turn it over making

Speaker 1 making a sick playlist just being like right before like maybe a long drive just being like just sitting down on spotify making a sick playlist uh how about this kind of similar to the spam emails but clearing out all the open apps on your phone and like closing all the tabs that feels good

Speaker 2 uh what else you guys got tossing a beer perfectly across a room

Speaker 1 when you get that connection guy to guy Throwing out old clothes. Yeah, that feels very good when you clean out your closet.

Speaker 1 Weeding. Weeding, yeah, paying any bill.

Speaker 2 Any bill. It's hard for some people.

Speaker 1 It is. It is.
I've been thinking about something. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think on the graphic, the dog thing should be taking the dog out, not taking the dog for a walk. Why?

Speaker 2 No, now that you're confusing letting the dog out with taking a dog for a walk. Two separate things.
Two separate things.

Speaker 1 They're going to be right next to each other.

Speaker 1 They're going to be right next to each dog. If we picked walking,

Speaker 1 if you went first and picked walking the dog, you would not have allowed taking a walk. No, you can't.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I agree with you. No, you can go for a walk.
Shout out, Billy.

Speaker 2 No, you don't. I agree.

Speaker 1 What's the next thing? You're going to say, what's one of your picks? Cleaning out the cat litter box?

Speaker 1 That probably makes you feel very accomplished.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you had to do it.

Speaker 2 This might be just a personal one for me, but it always felt good like walking under a door and then touching up, like jumping in the air and touching the door jam on the top.

Speaker 1 that oh fuck here's uh

Speaker 1 taking a piss and flushing the toilet perfectly yes so that you save maximum amount of time

Speaker 1 that is a great one holding it holding the door open for someone yep that's a good one packing the night before a trip not waiting till the day of buying that's that feels awesome buying coffee for the group in the morning oh that's a good one billy yeah bagels that is a good donuts yeah that's a good one bagels yeah um Taking your supplements in the morning.

Speaker 1 Taking your supplement. Remembering to take your pills.
Washing your car, I think we said.

Speaker 1 Some good ones, though. Oh, parallel parking.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Nailing a parallel park job.

Speaker 1 Pretty good.

Speaker 1 That's not easy for me. This also might be for just dudes in a relationship, but there's definitely an accomplishment feeling of picking up dinner on the way home.

Speaker 1 Just be like, what do you want for dinner? I'll pick it up.

Speaker 1 And you really don't do anything. You just literally just go.
Remembering a birthday. Remembering a birthday is a good one.
Or anniversary. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Same with similar to to what you said, like bringing home flowers for a significant other.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it can go a long way. Yeah, that's true.
That's a good one. That's a good, easy accomplishment.
That's true. Remembering a birthday is pretty good.
Yeah. It feels good when you do that.
Damn.

Speaker 1 I feel like that's pretty easy.

Speaker 2 You guys should have taken the piss one. That was a good pick.

Speaker 1 I just yeah, the piss one's really good.

Speaker 1 I love doing that.

Speaker 2 Kicking myself for that.

Speaker 1 There's nothing, nothing feels better than that. And obviously, if you don't time it right, that's just sitting there.
Yeah, or like

Speaker 2 peeing confidently at a urinal next to a megastar.

Speaker 1 Being able

Speaker 1 being able to spell out your whole name. Pooping before.

Speaker 1 O-NP. Yeah, yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I thought you meant just like H-A-N-K.

Speaker 1 That's sick. Whenever I nail it on the first try.

Speaker 2 Pooping before you shower.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 I think we have some good ones. I do that every time.
Yeah, no, but sometimes there's every now and then that you like fuck up your.

Speaker 1 I refuse to take a shower

Speaker 1 until you

Speaker 1 try and poop. But if you show you, you're always trying.
Well, like, I mean, sometimes I don't have to poop. Well, that's the problem.

Speaker 1 That's what, like, what Billy's saying, and I agree with, like, if you sometimes will shower, and then, like, 20 minutes later, you're like, shit, I have to poop. And then you're like, that's funny.

Speaker 1 That's why you always try. Yes.
Like, I'm incapable of taking a shower without at least sitting on the toilet. Yeah, I just imagine you like my four-year-old.
Like, I'm like, you got to go try.

Speaker 1 You sit there with your iPad and watch helmet. Well, I'm pretty good at

Speaker 1 pooping. That if I sit down, I can normally get something.
Bet you are.

Speaker 1 I bet you are, big boy.

Speaker 1 Challenge failed.

Speaker 1 What? I said, big boy. That's not a lot.

Speaker 2 Max, when you look at a toilet, do you have to poop?

Speaker 1 No. When I look at it, it's more, if I hear like the shower running, it's like, oh, poop time, poop time.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 the easy one is just responding to a person's text.

Speaker 1 We have a certain person in our life who sometimes we forget to respond to, and when we do, it does feel accomplished.

Speaker 2 Texting is

Speaker 1 texting is the

Speaker 1 I almost put that on my

Speaker 1 everyday enemies, just Steve Jobs for inventing cell phones. Yeah, texting.

Speaker 1 And there's nothing worse than when you read a text and respond in your head, and then you realize a day later you hadn't responded. Oh, that's the worst feeling.

Speaker 1 Pretty much every single text I've ever read.

Speaker 2 A new feature of being able to change an iMessage to unread is clutch.

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that's left readers.
That's sneaky.

Speaker 2 That sounds dishonest. You can make it unread.
That sounds very dishonest to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Jake, are you gaslighting people? No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 No, it's bad.

Speaker 2 The worst feeling is when you text somebody and you need a favor or you're asking them for something and you pull up their name and the last thing that you have is a text from them

Speaker 1 that you didn't respond. Yes.

Speaker 2 Oh, hey, just seeing this. Sorry.
And then you wait like two minutes and then you can wait.

Speaker 1 I'm going to text Todd McShay and Dan Harry. Yeah, you have like quarterly things that are on my phone.
I'm just going to say, hope you're well, Todd.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You ever text someone happy birthday? And the last time you text them was happy birthday a year ago to the day.
Yep. Yeah, that's always interesting.

Speaker 2 And then that clearly means they didn't wish you a happy birthday.

Speaker 1 Fid.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's wrap up. We got Fire Fest of the week.
Henry?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 what do you have to complain about? You. I mean, you guys,

Speaker 1 it's about

Speaker 1 what it's going to be about. I know we talk about it a lot and people are probably sick of it.
And honestly, it's you guys have somehow

Speaker 1 gotten it to a point where I'm getting sick of it.

Speaker 1 You're getting sick of golfing?

Speaker 1 I have never, I just picked it up. It's a hobby.
I don't have a lot going on in my life. I just picked up a little hobby, something to do on the side, play a little.

Speaker 2 What do you mean you just picked it up?

Speaker 1 I picked it up like a year and a half ago, two years ago.

Speaker 1 Are you upset because there's a PMT V v out right now that you can watch on the part of my take youtube is that why you're is that your fire fest well just like you guys talk about how much i play which is false you gaslight people into thinking i play all the time how many times you play this week it's thursday good question two one of them

Speaker 1 two out of three days dragged me out there oh yeah i dragged hank out there

Speaker 1 also

Speaker 2 to your point you should check out the part of my take youtube channel because in a change of pace me and hank actually teamed up this week so we're on the same team trying to break 100 as a duo in the front nine in Austin, Texas with Maddie Walsh.

Speaker 2 And so me and Hank were pulling on the same side of the rope here. It's all love between us.
I don't know why you're upset about that.

Speaker 2 It's me and Hank versus the Coors. It's not like it was me against you or anything.

Speaker 1 Wait, so, all right, so you and Hank were on the same team. Hank, do you have any videos?

Speaker 1 Do you have any videos where you go up against someone playing golf coming out soon?

Speaker 1 No, I have a video coming out with Frankie Borrelli on Monday. Oh, okay.
All right. We put out the Stella Blue two-hole challenge the other day where I didn't have my clubs and didn't get it.

Speaker 1 It was like a lot of cough. Well, this is all work stuff.

Speaker 2 Well, Big Cat, I mean, you asked the question.

Speaker 2 It is me and Hank on the same team. It's not like we're competing against each other, but they do show the scores at some point during the round.

Speaker 1 So they're the Fire Fest.

Speaker 2 Then they continue to show the scores, but it's not

Speaker 1 who sweet. So this Fire Fest is.

Speaker 1 This Fire Fest is actually your festival. Your Fire Fest should be all my Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 I haven't said what it is.

Speaker 1 Your fire fest should be you. Your fire fest is you.
No, it should be you. It's you.
You. It's you and it's you.
No, it's you. I just picked up golf.

Speaker 1 I'm just, you know, trying to trying to play and have a good time. And I have thick skin.
I've been through it all. I've worked it out.
I've worked it for 10 years. I've heard it all.

Speaker 1 Usually, you know, it washes right off my head. But

Speaker 1 everyone.

Speaker 1 Was that a rolls off your shoulders? Rolls off your back?

Speaker 2 It was like skin off my back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, rolls it off my back. Wash it out of my hair.
Yeah. Brush it off your shoulder.
Yeah. Or wash it off his head.
Everyone, because of how much you guys lie and say that all I do is play golf.

Speaker 1 Everyone, everyone, all these comments are like, oh, someone that plays golf so much, you suck, you suck, you suck. Well, you do play golf.

Speaker 1 I'm just, but it's just a hobby. It's just something I do for fun.
It's just something I do to distract myself from, you know, the, from us. From life, yeah.
From just get away, get out of the office.

Speaker 1 We do it for work now. And it's like, I guess, one of those things where it's like, you know, you love something and then it becomes your job.
And all of a sudden, you just don't like it anymore.

Speaker 1 And you've done playing golf. Oh, I feel so bad for you.
You played

Speaker 1 two times in the last three days. And you also went to Torrey Pines over the weekend.
I didn't play at Torrey Pines. Did you go to Torrey Pines over the weekend? No.
Yeah. I went.

Speaker 1 Where did you say? Where'd you go? You went to Torrey Pines. You went to Torrey Pines.
Hilton, La Jolla, which is on the Torrey Pines golf course. Okay,

Speaker 1 I'm kind of understood.

Speaker 2 Anyway, the last thing I want to do is overstate how much golf you play. How many rounds of golf have you played this summer?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Are we counting the work trip we went on to Mid Pines?

Speaker 2 Sure. When we golfed, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Again, it's summer. I told you guys

Speaker 1 I'm going to be, you know, taking some personal time this summer. But again, Firefest is huge.
Your Firefest is huge. And how you,

Speaker 1 you suck at golf. Are being really mean to me.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I'm just sick of it. the the video go watch it on pmt i didn't play my best uh and then i have a video come out with frankie that it was after a sunday night we recorded you i mean whatever uh

Speaker 1 i'm not gonna spoil it

Speaker 1 we we recorded the podcast till you know four in the morning and then i drove to long island and had two hours of sleep four in the morning i played at 8 a.m so i was playing on two hours of sleep and i it's just like people people whatever i'm not gonna i guess my father i guess it's land to be like my firefighters is being people are being mean to me but no your firefights is you for sucking.

Speaker 1 You suck. I played golf in a sick twist of reality.
You assholes have somehow got it in a world where, like, I don't even want to play golf because I just know people are going to be mean to me.

Speaker 1 And it gets, it's

Speaker 1 so nice. No, let's be honest.
You don't want to play golf. I'm excited for football to be back.
I don't want to have a job anymore. You want to just play golf on the side.

Speaker 1 I'm excited football is back.

Speaker 1 And then I won't, you know, I'll be not playing anymore.

Speaker 2 You're not going to play any more golf once football starts.

Speaker 2 That's what you just said.

Speaker 1 No, not as much, not as frequent.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay. So just twice a week.

Speaker 1 Maybe you should just get better. Yeah, I think I need to get better.
By practicing more and playing more. I need to take some lessons.
That's a good point.

Speaker 2 I think the problem is you don't play enough golf.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And you play almost to the limit of the amount of golf that you can play.

Speaker 1 No, again,

Speaker 1 I stayed at a golf course this weekend, didn't play. I was at a golf course today, didn't play.
Like, it's, it's work. And yeah, it's like, uh, it really is.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, people that play video games for a living and then they, like, get sick of it and quit because they're like, this thing that I did is a hobby, now it's my job, I don't like it anymore.

Speaker 1 You guys have, have turned this into a world where

Speaker 1 I just don't have, I don't know. It's just people are, people are, people are.
You're basically you're a porn star that doesn't like sex anymore. Pretty much, yeah.

Speaker 1 I just, I'm, I've been, I've, I've been fucked out, fucked out of the fun.

Speaker 1 It's sad. It's sad to hear.

Speaker 2 But you should watch the video. It's on the PMT YouTube right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good.

Speaker 1 Keep in mind, I've just been playing golf for like a year and a half. So PFT is like 100 years older than me.
He's had way more experience.

Speaker 1 Also, the amount you've played is like that of like

Speaker 1 a 10-year pro.

Speaker 2 I think I've played eight rounds of golf in my life.

Speaker 1 Like eight rounds.

Speaker 1 I played negative two.

Speaker 1 And I beat Hank.

Speaker 1 Whatever.

Speaker 2 That was whatever whatever okay all right pft what's your fire fest good fire fest hank my uh my fire fest is that i owe my mortgage company 22 million dollars

Speaker 2 so if you've never bought a home uh sometimes what happens is they transfer your mortgage they bundle it up and they pass it on to a different bank that now owns your mortgage and then they can transfer that and bundle it with other homes and sell that to yet another bank and then you have to pay that new bank your mortgage So in the first month of owning a home, my house got transferred, I believe, twice.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 the new company called me up yesterday and they said, yes, I'd like to talk to you and maybe we can schedule some recurring payments. And it says right here that you owe $22 million.

Speaker 2 Is that correct? And I was like,

Speaker 2 no, no, it's definitely not correct. And then the lady looked it up and she came back and she was like, I'm seeing $22 million here in the system.

Speaker 2 And then she said that she was looking at the wrong file and then gave me a different number that was closer to what I think that I owe.

Speaker 2 And then I got another call back from them today from a different person that came at me with a $22 million figure. So

Speaker 2 I think somehow either the real estate market went through the roof in Chicago and I didn't hear about it, or I owe $22 million because of a clerical error that happened at some point during the two transfers.

Speaker 1 It is a nice house.

Speaker 2 It's a nice

Speaker 2 pay. Except the shower sometimes doesn't get as hot as Hank.

Speaker 1 I should actually use that. I did not say that on the podcast.
I should actually use that.

Speaker 2 I should use that to try to get my money back for the house. The guest bathroom shower doesn't heat up enough fast enough for Hank's house.

Speaker 1 Did I say it on the podcast? Yeah, I think that you did.

Speaker 2 But you did say that the heated floors were a nice touch, but you wish that the shower was warmer.

Speaker 1 Maybe I can try to get my money back on the house.

Speaker 2 I don't know, but apparently I owe somebody $22 million. What would happen if I just

Speaker 2 did my monthly payments like I owed $22 million?

Speaker 1 You just pay off your house so fast. Because then eventually it would get fixed.

Speaker 2 It would eventually get fixed, yeah. So I don't know.
Can I just, can I go on a rent strike against the bank? I don't know what's happening. I'm confident that they'll figure it out at some point.

Speaker 1 You're just squatting. There's a lot of numbers that if someone tells you like, hey, you have to...

Speaker 1 fill out all this paperwork to correct it or you could just pay it that I'm willing to pay, 22 million is probably too much.

Speaker 2 That might be too much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like if someone's like, oh, you owe $100, like I could fight this or I could just pay $100 and be done with it. Like I'll pay the $100.

Speaker 1 I think $22 million is the limit. I think that's too much.

Speaker 2 For a second, when they told me that number, I was like, wait a second.

Speaker 2 Did Sleepy Joe really fuck up the economy that badly? And my mortgage rate increased after I thought that I had it locked in? Like, did it float up? to lock up 98%?

Speaker 2 I don't even know what that number would be. I don't think it could shoot shoot up to $22 million, Hank.

Speaker 1 Can it shoot up, though?

Speaker 2 On certain types of mortgages, it can.

Speaker 1 You're locked in, Hank.

Speaker 1 I hope so.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Maybe I got Hank's mortgage instead. Maybe you owe $22 million.

Speaker 1 You're locked in, Hank. Oh, that sucks.

Speaker 2 So we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out on this end because I would prefer not to pay $22 million.

Speaker 2 I would agree.

Speaker 1 I would agree. I concur.

Speaker 1 All right. My Fire Fest.
I moved this week, but talking about moving is as boring as talking about how bad bad you are at golf. So, my Fire Fest is

Speaker 1 a good thing. I didn't say that.
Well, you did.

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest is Hank and I were out again, another plug for Jake, parstool.tv.

Speaker 1 Go watch them all this weekend. But my Firefest is a, he probably looked about like 18, 19 years old, came up to me and asked younger, like 16, 17, came up to me and asked

Speaker 1 for a picture, which is routine. Love our fans.
But the way he phrased it was: Hey, big cat, want to flick up?

Speaker 1 And I've never been more intimidated in my life. I didn't know that's how kids talk now, and I am scared to go outside my house.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's very, very intimidating.

Speaker 1 What

Speaker 2 I used to live across the street from a ladies' bar called The Clam, and I think I heard one girl say that to another there one time, but I don't know,

Speaker 2 I don't know in what context kids started to use flick up.

Speaker 1 Want to flick up as just a phrase. I can't.

Speaker 1 It's too much. It's too much.

Speaker 1 I've never felt so old in my entire life than the want to flick up.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, we have no choice but to adopt that phrase now, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yo, bro, you want to flick up real quick?

Speaker 2 Hank's going to be flicked up on various YouTube pages in the next week playing golf.

Speaker 1 Well, I heard too.

Speaker 1 We might shut the comments off and PMT YouTube.

Speaker 1 You should.

Speaker 1 We put out a tweet on just every single fucking response. Oh, man.
What then? Kenny's would be better if he switches as much golf as he plays. How does Hank play so much? It's still be so damn bad.

Speaker 1 He's not even close. LOL.

Speaker 1 Monday, Monday, what'd you do?

Speaker 1 Worked.

Speaker 1 What'd you do Monday? I worked. Do you play golf? Nope.
You didn't play 18 holes on Monday? Nope.

Speaker 1 Sunday? Nope. Tuesday? Yep.
Wednesday? Yep.

Speaker 1 Which is seven days.

Speaker 2 What did you do today, Hank? Worked.

Speaker 1 Knocked you out of seven days.

Speaker 2 Where did you work today? Yes.

Speaker 1 You're not going to play any more golf for the rest of the week. No, we have to work.

Speaker 1 Saturday?

Speaker 1 Saturday and Sunday, maybe. But as of right now, as of right now, no.

Speaker 1 But I'll probably read materials.

Speaker 1 I'll probably read the YouTube comments and get fired up and get out there. So we'll see.
That's right, Hank. Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 2 If you ain't got no haters, you ain't got no popping, Hank.

Speaker 1 If you ain't ain't got no haters you ain't popping that song is a banger by the way i was just list playing it again it it goes

Speaker 2 robert salon you're popping you're popping big time um all right i i've got a fire fest for jake jake asked me to say this on the show his fire fest is that he's not going to be able to get wing nuts because he's going to be late coming in for the tournament the corn fairy tournament which you can watch on barstool.tv he wanted me to say that too um so speaking of which Speaking of which, PFT, I don't know if you saw, I thought his fire fest was going to be the fact that he's wearing the largest

Speaker 1 white polo I've ever seen produced on barstool.tv right now. He looks like he's wearing a sail from a sailboat.

Speaker 2 Well, it's to cover up his ass and his genitals because he's not wearing pants.

Speaker 1 Yeah, on barstool.tv.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But yeah, he's not going to be able to get wingnuts this weekend.
But Jake would probably eat what, like six wings, seven wings? With gloves.

Speaker 1 I think it's anti-like. Jake's like, like, that's kind of off-brand for him to love wingnuts.

Speaker 2 He does love wingnuts. That's how good wingnuts is.

Speaker 1 I think it's one of those things where Jake, there's a world where Jake is just like a FBI agent that has been working undercover on this podcast for the last five years.

Speaker 1 And the only way that he can gain our trust is to be like, yeah, wings.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, yeah, let's go shoot someone. Like, yeah, hey, guys, like, yeah, we do crime.
We wings. So I think that's why he's missing out.

Speaker 2 But he is going to miss out. And I'm so excited about Wingnuts.
Wingnuts is, it's my favorite meal of the year.

Speaker 1 It's going to be incredible. Yes.
And Grit Week is going to be awesome this year. Monday, I'll say it.
We have the grittiest coach that I can think of. So get excited.

Speaker 1 So it's going to be a fucking awesome, awesome week. I love

Speaker 1 this week.

Speaker 1 Sean Evans.

Speaker 1 But yes, it's going to be a great grit week. And

Speaker 1 everyone have a great weekend and get ready for grit week. Get in that mindset because Monday, the music, the intro music is going to be sounding like that.
Grit week time.

Speaker 2 Mega grit week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, mega grit week. Oh, numbers.
I'll do 18.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll do

Speaker 1 69. 99.

Speaker 1 So I'll videotape it so that you guys don't, in case something funky happens, you reach out. I mean, these are, this is Mickey Mouse.
Anyway, I don't even want to win. Yeah, but people still like it.

Speaker 1 36.

Speaker 1 36.

Speaker 2 Love you guys, love you guys, love you guys.

Speaker 2 Do you have any animal facts?

Speaker 2 Hank, here's an animal fact: a birdie is what you should try to get on a golf course.

Speaker 1 Good, good one.

Speaker 1 Today's a night

Speaker 1 to find you shy away.

Speaker 1 Though I'll be coming for your lover,

Speaker 1 baby. You don't want me

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 when I turn up to

Speaker 1 say

Speaker 1 my heart is in it.

Speaker 1 But I need to learn away.

Speaker 1 Tell the land life that's okay.

Speaker 1 Stay after me.

Speaker 1 It's no better to be safe than sorry than sorry than sorry than sorry

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 up I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 Things that you say,

Speaker 1 every little I thought.

Speaker 1 Just to blame my worries away.

Speaker 1 You're all the things I've got to remember. You're shy and away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 on.

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone.