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Okay, let's go. Now in the street there is violence And then a lot of work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we gotta rock down to electric it's part of my take isn't about martial sports welcome to part of my take today is wednesday july 19th and pft running backs are being scrutinized running backs are being judged running backs are on the hot seat uh in the entire nfl saquon barkley doesn't reach a deal with the giants neither does tony pollard uh saquon barkley tweets it is what it is and then every running back in the world comes to their effect their his defense uh what are we going to do about backs, PFT? Well, you said scrutinize.
I think you can drop the inized. They're getting scrut.
These running backs are getting scrut left and right. They are an endangered species when it comes to getting paid.
They need to go on strike. It sounds like this is the beginning of running back unionization.
They need to band together. The Ravens have been doing it for years when it comes to their wide receivers.
Just don't have like, what are you going to do? Play a game without running backs? I'd like to see you try or you can just teach all your running backs. Here's what I would do.
If you're a young running back, a youngster out there playing the position of running back, learning how to play, coming up through the ranks, also learn how to pass because then you can just be a dual threat quarterback. How about that? Yeah.
Learn to pass. But it does seem like what happened to fullbacks about 10, 12 years ago with that started like the whole trend of not using a fullback anymore, not paying a fullback when they were a big part of the running game.
That's now first they came for the fullbacks and I said nothing because I was not a fullback. Next, they came for the running backs and there was nobody left to block for me.
It's tough. It's tough.
I, uh, it's one of those situations where I get what the running backs are saying, but it also, we have learned through time that like a guy like Saquon Barkley, who's very good. You can probably pay someone 20% of the salary for 80% of the production and running backs.
My, my big idea is that running backs should not be eligible to be drafted. Make them, let them be free agents.
Cause it's like, I have no problem with how GMs are operating in terms of drafting running back, like using them and then franchise tagging them, then moving on. Because it's just a matter of fact that running backs, they wear down faster.
That's just the nature of the position. It sucks for them, but it's true.
So the big problem is that running backs don't get to free agency until they're kind of on the other side of the hill. Why don't we let running backs just be free agents right away? I mean, I know what you're saying.
It might not work to just be like, okay, one position gets to do this. Of course not.
But it would probably be a little bit easier if there was just no franchise tag for running back. Yeah.
You can use it on that position. You can use it on anybody else.
If you've got a great holder, sure. Use your, your tag on that.
But if there's a running back, you can't tag them. So they play their first contract.
Then there'll be an actual bidding war for their services out there for their second deal. And then they can make some money, probably not get a third contract out of any of it.
But that, that second contract is what they're all working towards and they're not getting there in the current model and yeah if you're a gm why would you why would you ever commit big amount of money to a running back it doesn't make any sense at all except i actually think with with saquon there's a better angle that you can take on him that he is better for daniel jones than daniel jones is for saquon barkley yeah no i mean saquon's a very good running back. Like Christian McCaffrey chiming in.
Christian McCaffrey is a special running back. He catches the ball like a wide receiver.
It's just, if you're talking about the average running back, I don't really blame GMs for making smart financial decisions when it comes to paying running backs. Like, it sucks.
It'd be funny if they did go on strike if all the running backs got together because derrick henry did say i'm with every running back that's fighting to get what they deserve uh if just they all stop playing we might sneaky like football more like if there was no running game it wouldn't be football anymore but i think i mean that's what the league is going towards anyways it's just like an all

passing game right like that's what brings the money that's what all the rule changes are in favor what if there if there was a week without running backs would we be happy watching those games i think me and you would not because we we appreciate the beauty of the running attack establish the run yeah establish the run how would you play action wouldn't work right if you were if If you were just like taking a poll nationwide of every football fan,

do you think that more people would be like, yo, this game's all passing now? That's kind of sweet. Yeah, it's basically Warren Sharpe's wet dream is what would happen.
Yeah. Is just pass on first down every time.
You know what running backs need to do is they need to be – like tight ends, they need a camp where they all get together. And I think what running backs need to do more than anything is highlight their blocking because they can be like, look, we understand running the football.
It's a passing league now. But what about blocking? Because they pay offensive linemen a lot of money, right? So just basically every single week, instead of being like, look at this 20-yard run by Saquon Barkley, how about look at this blitz that he picked up and saved this quarterback's life? We just need to shift the argument.
Yeah. Yeah, I love watching running backs throw down a big block.
It's one of my favorites. It's the best.
It's like Maurice Jones drew laying out Sean Merriman. This would actually lead towards teams drafting just really fat, big running backs to just be full-time blockers in the backfield.
Brandon Jacobs makes a comeback, but it really is. It's the part of the game that's not sexy, that people don't really have their eye on, but a running back who's able to be good in the pass protection game is an invaluable asset to your team and to your quarterback not getting killed.
So that's what we need to be talking about with running backs.

Yeah, it's also a position that is it is expendable.

You can find another running back in the draft.

There's not that much difference as we've seen throughout the last 10 years of the NFL.

Taking a running back in the seventh round usually works out for you just as well as

taking a running back in the second round.

And that's the part that sucks for him, too too because running backs do when they're 25, 26,

the league kind of views them as,

oh, well, they got a lot of miles.

So why would we pay a 26, 27-year-old running back

a ton of money?

And they never really got a chance

to make that big second contract.

You always hear about it.

It's the second contract the guys are after

because the first one's locked into

a certain amount of money.

And if you're not like a top first round pick, it's not going to be money for the rest of your life and you got to earn that second contract i did like there's a lot of confusing arguments online uh one of my favorite ones was the meme uh that said running backs average salary is 1.81 million dollars and kicker's average salary is $1.81 million and kickers average salary is $2.26 million. And how everything is wrong because of that.
Just leaving out the fact that most rosters have like three or four running backs and they all have one kicker. But still, you know, it feels a little personal towards kickers.
It also just also Babe Ruth made like $30,000 in the course of his career. Isn't that fucked up? Yeah, true.
He gets new salaries nowadays with the running backs. I also loved Maurice Jones.
Drew came to the defense. He said, let me say this.
If you don't have Patrick Mahomes on your team, you're going to need a top-notch running back to win a ship, and that's a promise. Then a a twitter user named little tax slayer at flavor blasted one replied leading rushers for super bowl teams no without patrick mahomes 2022 uh acres 21 yards 2021 fournette 89 yards one td 2019 michelle 94 yards 2018 legarit blunt 90 yards 2017 legarit blunt 31 yards 2016 anderson 90 yards 2015 legarit blunt 40 yards and he said uh really the only thing it proves is that you statistically need legarit blunt on your team yeah or or just getting to a super bowl it's good to have a bunch of guys that can run the football.
Yeah. Leading Russia doesn't matter.
This is actually the patriotization of the NFL. Bill Belichick was way ahead of the curve on this because he was doing like running back by committee going back to 2012, 2013, where it didn't matter if Gray got him four touchdowns one week.
He was going to play LeGarrette Blount in a cold weather game. He would just like go back and forth, back and forth, depending on who he felt was the best matchup in that game.
Yeah. Having a bunch of good running backs is almost better than having one awesome running back because then you have to force feed that guy.
And if he's having a bad game, your whole offense goes to shit. Yeah.
Yeah. It is funny when you put it like when you think of running backs and you talk about, if I were to say like a running back is 28 years old you'd be like ew yeah gross yeah we we look at running backs like leonardo dicaprio looks at girlfriends yes pretty much 26 there's a lot of a lot of tread on not so much tread left on those tires time for a new one let's get it young yeah so i do feel bad for running backs but i also don't really know the solution other than taking away the franchise tag or figuring out a way that their rookie contracts maybe if you draft a running back their rookie contract is three years not five i don't know i still think they should unionize i think that'd be fun that would be fun someone also has there's whiffs of unionization going around yeah someone else also had the idea that running back should be like car leases, that if you go over the miles, over the carries, you have to pay a penalty to the running back.
I don't think that would really work because then teams would just be even more running back by committee. And they would be like, oh, we can't run Saquon here on the goal line because we don't want to pay the penalty.
Yeah. My old colleague from KSK, Johnny Sugar, tweeted this out a couple months ago.
It made me laugh. He said that the NFL analytics community, which is a bunch, for the most part, a bunch of nerdy, liberal-leaning white guys, got together and somehow figured out that running backs should not be paid as much as they are getting paid and it ended up taking away millions and millions and millions of dollars of earning potential from young black men it is the truth yeah it's the analytics of football have uh fuck i love the running back position i love when this happened i felt bad for running backs everywhere i tweeted out like running backs if you're reading this just know that i value you yeah i was like i still i still think running backs are cool if i were a gm i i already proposed this i would make sure that all the running backs on my roster get paid enough that they're happy and as little that i'm happy easy job yeah develop a a rescue franchise for unwanted running backs.
Yes. We need, I mean, we, yeah, we need maybe a team to just only run the football kind of zig when everyone's zags Ravens.
Yeah. Ravens.
I mean, the 49ers almost, they tried to win an FC championship game, just running the football. That's true.
It turns out it doesn't, you might need it. You might need a quarterback too, along with your running backs to win a championship reese jones who was just like a little bit off it it also is like when you actually say the numbers it is ridiculous someone was like how is daniel jones getting 35 million and saquon can't get 12 you're like you know what you're right saquon is better at football than daniel jones it's unfortunate that daniel jones plays quarterback the most the most important position in all sports just if i were the giants i would have probably tagged daniel jones and then paid saquon yeah that that is what fucks saquon is as soon as daniel jones did his deal yeah he had the franchise tag for saquon but he's like a rare case i think saquon is good enough that you could make the case that you could pay him a little bit of money on that second deal and still be fine in the long term because he does make your quarterback so much better.
He makes your offensive line so much better. But yeah, for the most part, it's just basic churn and burn.
Get a guy that it's like the Denver Broncos used to always do. They'd have one guy.
You'd be like, damn, that guy's going to be the future of the NFL.

He's going to be the Russian king for the next five seasons.

And then usually the next season or the season after,

they'd move on from him.

Yeah, yeah.

The Shanahan system.

Just plug and play a running back.

Okay, what else do we got going on? We are in the depths of July,

where I feel like all day was just running uh running back conversations i saw people ranking uh seasons so like the actual seasons of the year and i realized oh fuck we need some sports back like thank god teams start reporting this week uh because when we start ranking the four seasons that usually is a sign that we all need to watch some football really badly when you said rank the four seasons i was just gonna say football season yeah i mean well that's fall isn't number one you're crazy yeah i love the summer i still love the summer man you can't get the summer out of this blood hank don't don't look like you don't love the summer either i love the summer no we've i mean we've had this debate i, probably like 10 times. Yeah, this is what we do in July.

You guys both pick fall first.

I'm the only real summer head on this pod.

I only scoff because you say that, but you don't mean it.

I do mean it.

What are you talking about?

Summer, fall, one's got to go.

Summer's gone.

Yeah, so don't say that.

Won't even miss you.

It's close, though.

You know what?

I'm leaning more towards becoming a fall guy as I get older. Also, as you got a kid, summer's won.
No. What? No.
No school. You have to spend all your time with your kid.
Yeah, you're way up. No, I'm saying when you are a kid.
No, I'm saying when you are a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Most people don't get summers off unless you're a teacher or Hank. No, when you're a kid, summer's by best yes yes you are correct when you're a kid yes but when you have kids summer goes down again or if you don't have an office or if you don't have an office but you have a tough realization after you graduate from college you get into the real world and you realize wait i don't i don't get to stay home and go on vacation every july and august yeah that's fucked up yeah summer really really gets knocked down a peg it basically becomes like four like four weekends in the summer is what is what you remember it by yeah yeah they're uh also the open championship which we'll get into in a little bit but that's been it's been discussed they fucked brooks over with his pairing yep he's in a group who can't lie just trying to get under his skin the brits don't want to see our boy brooks win but brooks has already figured out he's gonna walk slow he's gonna just he's gonna slow walk the fuck out of the course yeah yeah that he was doing that so he didn't have to worry about people like it's gotta be a different beast when you have to watch can't lay the whole time like say it's not going to bother him, but it has to.
Well, he has two options. He could either, which would be very funny if he starts just walking in circles behind Cantlay as he does his whole thing, or Brooks is going to have to start stroking guys, which he will.
He will stroke a guy if he has to. It would be funny if brooks intentionally didn't play driver just

so that he would always be away from the pin on his second shot if those extra yards were so meaningless to him he's like yeah you know what i'll hit a four iron off the tee that way i can go up and hit my shot immediately yeah can't leave fuck you can't leave i'm gonna be i'm gonna be watching with the clock on can't leave i've got recording him you've got a bet coming in the uh can't we the uh barstool sports

book the fleetwood mac bet tommy fleetwood rory mcelroy top 10 i like both those guys yeah i like

those guys this week a lot i like that name a lot i wish i wasn't you know outwardly saying

rory's gonna miss the cut but that name is great it's a good name a good name a good name for

anything will overcome any mental obstacle that yes yes yes um the other thing i had was shohei otani's trade season is coming uh he had an unreal bat flip against the yankees at like you know midnight on the east coast uh and just the yankees stink ever since they took away they put the logo on their pinstripes he's he's a terrible organization show is turning to barry bonds where people are like you had why didn't they intentionally walk him it's like yeah yeah he's so i i read an article uh top destinations for shohei otani basically judging who has the farm system to trade for him for the next you know two months two and a half months and i love it because i want to ask what you think the top three teams are and it makes it so much fun because if he goes to any three it would be fucking incredible okay so i would say the nationals because the nationals just upgraded their farm system by trading away one soda last year that's never going to happen it's not going to happen i'm not convinced of that uh seattle nope chicago nope the cubs are going to be sellers for sure uh the top three are the tampa bay rays number three and this is obviously just a list on cbs gross the baltimore orioles which would be awesome they have a loaded farm system i don't think they'll ever pull the trigger on that and then the texas rangers so if he goes to any three of those because you know everyone is yeah well the razor no but like it's not fun well the rays could be fun if they were their throwbacks yeah yeah the the like uh the double ray neon yeah the neon logo that they've been wearing those are fun yeah i just don't think that the tampa bay rays are a fun organization if i want if you have a superstar like shohei otani you want to see him in a premium market like an exciting team baltimore would also be fun though but remember this is a rental so i'm saying it would be fun because it's a rental like he's going to sign somewhere else after the season for a ton a ton of money and probably in new york or la for the Dodgers like so I'm saying fun you get to watch Shohei Otani for two and a half months on a team that you wouldn't expect him to be on maybe compete for a World Series those would be I mean the Orioles would be awesome and the Reds were number five Reds would be awesome so the Orioles I don't I don't know if Peter Angelos would do that though no he's not a he's not a big trade for another superstar he's like the entire worldview that peter angelos has as the owner of the orioles is you want to develop a superstar and then trade him away at the deadline his business model is exactly what the angels are doing right now yeah he you build the tree and then you sell it away for a bunch of seeds yeah you're like you'll get another tree i'm gonna get a tree soon then i'm gonna get more seeds you're never getting fruit yes yes so i i don't know i hope he i hope he gets traded to not the yankees or the dodgers that's my only hope because it feels like he will sign with the yankees or the dodgers once he becomes a free agent so i'm hoping that we get to see Shohei in a different uniform

for two and a half months, maybe going deep into October.

I'd like to see him on the Giants or the Mariners.

I think those would be fun teams.

The Giants would be cool.

Yeah, that would be cool.

Reds would be.

What about Trout?

Is Trout going anywhere?

Well, he's injured, right?

Yeah, Trout's out for the next six weeks.

Otani has also said that he likes playing on the West Coast and he wants to on the west coast so he's gonna get traded to the dodgers so and the dodgers dodgers are the betting favorites for him or the padres who yeah i don't know how they have any talent i don't think they hurt money have anything yeah but they have everybody on their current their roster is awesome if you look at it onres, you're like, yeah, that's a contender. Also, that was a bad bat flip.
You didn't like it? He looked awkward. What are you talking about? It looked like an awkward bat flip.
Everyone was freaking out about it. I thought he looked awkward.
It was smooth as hell. No, no.
Looked like he was cranking a motorcycle. Looked at it, and then he was like, oh, shit, I should bat flip.
A bat flip should be like a Jose, although that was the exact same thing of what I just described. Yeah, no, Max, you got yourself a bat tip here.
It didn't look natural. It looked like he forced that bat flip.
Okay, I'm watching it again, and you are so wrong. No, I'll stand by this take.
Oh, that's so wrong. I didn't think it was a good bat flip.
I didn't think it was a good bat flip. Not to mention that it wasn't a no-doubter home run.
Yeah, which makes it worse, I think. No, which makes it cool that he was like, actually, this is going to be a home run.
When everyone watching was like, ooh, maybe it's not. Okay, so we're not going to take any advice from Max on how to celebrate after you win something.
Maybe if he had decided to bat flip before he swung the bat,

that's Max's speed before the pitch even came.

It was an awkward bat.

It was,

there was nothing about it.

I'm watching it on loop right now.

It was smooth as hell.

No,

it was there at the ball and just went boom.

Max,

are you a guy?

No,

I love a bat flip.

I just didn't think that was a good one.

Okay.

I don't think this take is a good one. No, that's fine.
It. It's actually a terrible take.
That's fine. It's an awful, awful, awful take.
Also, considering this too, Aaron Boone was on one of my hot seats, but we're talking about it now. Could have walked him.
Could have walked him. Yeah.
Could have walked him. Yeah.
So that's tough. Probably should have walked him.
I got a nice little taste of central time zone last night watching this game because on the East the east coast it was over so late yeah complaining about it i wasn't even in bed yet i was just chilling on my couch i was on my downstairs couch hadn't even gone upstairs yet oh hadn't even done the move hadn't even done the move yet nope sometimes i'll catch the end of a game on a tv in my bedroom no i was not only was i downstairs big cat i haven't even made the move from the basement to the main room to the upstairs yet.

That's sometimes I'm living.

That can get tricky though sometimes because I'll get stuck just like so lazy that I won't

make the move even though I should have made the move.

Yeah.

You know, especially if you have a good couch.

Yeah.

You're like, why have I not made the move?

I'm not even watching anything.

You're like, nah, I'm just staying on this couch.

I did get a new couch delivered last week, and I think I may have made a mistake. Uh-oh.
I got – it's like so comfortable that I was laying on it the other night, and I thought, why don't I just live here on my couch? Why don't I even move to bed? Dude, they've made couches so awesome. Yeah.
it is one of the best, like, I don't know, top five engineering changes that they made in the last 10, 15 years where couches are just basically beds. It rules.
I could sleep on my couch all day, all night. I could live on my couch entirely.
Eat there. I could do the podcast from there.
Everything. You should hurt your back again and just lay on the couch.
I'm thinking about it. Yeah.
Hank, you don't like this? No, I was going to save it for Fyre Fest, but as you can see behind me, I've had room for a couch that I ordered in May and I've just been at war with customer service and I've pretty much just given up on it showing up. So just hearing you guys talk about how great couches are is making is making me a little sad.
Hank, you've got to check out my couch. If you ever want to see a couch, come over to my place.
Yeah, because I don't think I'm ever going to have one. Hank's living in the real-life meme of the guy's apartment that's just a folding chair, a TV with red zone on it.
Yeah. What more do you need? Hank, you don't need a couch your your your house is the golf course true yeah so you're good um all right should we do hot seat cool throne yep let's do hot seat cool throne and then we'll get to rick riley mount rushmore of running backs and uh kirk and riggs uh hank your hot seat cool throne my hot seat is Christopher Nolan.
Ooh. Okay, go on.
My favorite director, my favorite filmmaker. You guys know I'm an absolute cinephile.
I love movies. The other day I watched like a five-minute TikTok that was explaining the decision that he made to shoot Oppenheimer in this crazy IMAX 70 millimeter film and that, you know, to really appreciate it, you got to go see it in IMAX 70 millimeter.
And I watched the whole thing. I was like, damn, he really went to great lengths to do this.
It must be worth the experience. There's 19 movie theaters in the country that can do it what and that's it so like other imaxes there's only 19 that are the the 70 millimeter imaxes the other imaxes are basically like slightly distorted or like reformatted versions and i'm sure you probably wouldn't be able to see the difference but after i watched this video i was like oh i gotta i you know i love chris for no one i respect his craft i'm gonna do what he wants the people to do the way he watched the movie the way he intended it to be watched you're a simp and there's literally the closest one to me is in like detroit okay gotta go i'm not i'm not well then you're not a cinephile you're not a cinephile

it's tough so i'm upset i'm upset i assumed i assumed honestly i assumed it was like you know every major city probably has one but like maybe some you know some of the flyover states and stuff like they're kind of screwed so and i wasn't worried about it but then i was like when I saw this list, I was furious.

That's crazy.

I did some different math when it came to this movie because i i saw what you're talking about hank how he's like very specific in particular i shot in this format to be viewed in this format all i needed to see why would you do that if there's 19 right all i need to see was it's a three hour long movie i don't care what the size of the screen and the film canister in the back looks like i'm gonna watch this fucking thing on the most comfortable chair i can find if i'm gonna be there for three hours you better believe i'm not sitting in like a standard normal movie theater seat i'm going i'm going full lazy boy i need something that reclines that's like every movie theater in the world I have a question. No, it's not.
You got to find the ones that aren't just the plush ones, the ones that kick back a little bit. Ah, yes.
I have a question. What exactly does it define an IMAX theater? Because I just Googled it, and it says there's over 300 IMAX theaters in the U.S., and I just Googled it, and there's top 10 best IMAX theaters in Chicago.

But those, it's not, it's a different,

it's a slightly different format.

It's like...

There's digital IMAX and then 70mm IMAX.

I don't know necessarily what the difference is,

but that is the difference.

So you can see it in IMAX.

But not the way he wanted it to be seen. Well, then that's a Christopherolan fault which is why he's on the hot seat yes okay all right now it makes sense but also hank can't claim to be a christopher nolan fan if he's not going to follow his particular instructions and go to detroit to watch this movie yes your cinephile has been revoked got your card also imax would be a great name for like a biopic about max yeah so we made it

max that just slips on bananas and shit yeah imax um speaking of that honestly great segue pft my cool throne is the city of philadelphia never winning anything ever okay philly don't something Oh, okay.

The city of Philadelphia.

Joel Embiid, our prince, our MVP.

He made comments the other day that he wants to win a championship in philadelphia or anywhere else which again you got you know your mvp you got james harden james harden's out of town could care less about playing in philadelphia and then you have your current mvp best player cornerstone of the franchise saying he just wants to win. And it seems like if he doesn't win this year in Philly, he's probably out.
Have you done any follow-up research to this? I have. Okay.
You better believe he has. Hank, tell me about all the follow-up research you've done to this quote.
Well, the follow-up, I think he got a lot of heat. And then Joel Embiid, he was being genuine.
And then he realized that he was being too honest in the city of Philadelphia was turning on him. I think, what was your exact? Let me pull up Max's quote about this.
No, yeah. I have takes about this, but it doesn't have to do with Embiid.
Well, Max. Well, no.
First of all, you literally tweeted like that. Don't weigh in on this conversation.
Oh, hold on. All right, I got it.
This is from at Philly Mays. Can't believe this fan base is going to run Embiid out of town.
That was before Embiid. I don't see any follow up from you.
So that was before Embiid followed up himself and said that he was just trolling and that he is the troll god. But that didn't seem like a troll.
No, but he said it was a troll. Oh, OK.
So just a a prank he he said it was a prank he said it was a troll and that he wants to stay in philadelphia and finish his career he just said check my middle name that doesn't his middle name actually isn't troll so if you do check his middle name max which i did middle name middle name in his your this semantics you're playing a semantics battle his middle name is hans oh you're playing semantics hans great middle name great middle name check my middle name and i did and it's hans his middle name on twitter is troll it's not troll it's rowell okay so that's not his middle name everyone ever i'm sick of everyone here um wait he also said that he lost his place as the best troll here and that is now daryl mori so he was just talking about trolling he's okay he was not his real name is hans and his middle name on twitter is troell i think you saying when they when they asked him that question yeah i want to win a championship whether that's here or somewhere else. that's my goal.
He has no loyalty to our city, Max. Fact or fiction.
Yes, he does. He has plenty of loyalty until everything I'm seeing on Twitter right now is just bashing MB.
That's so fucked up. Our fans just like, they can't, they just can't.
Well, he is the MVP of the league. He's the MVP of the league, and no matter what has happened in the playoffs the past couple of years, yes, he hasn't played as well as he can.
He's still an undeniable top 10 player in the league, and 90% of teams across the NBA would do anything to have him. Fact or fiction, would you like Joel Embiid to be on the Chicago Bulls? No, I want the Bulls to win a title.
That's a lie. That's a lie.
I just gave you the answer. What you just said is fiction.
I want the Bulls to someday win a title again and Joel Embiid does not get you closer to that. Fact or fiction to win a title, you need to make a deep playoff run.
Correct. You need to get to the third round? Has he been to the third round? He's young.
How young? Young adjacent. Is he an old running back?

He's probably an old running back, but that's fine.

So big men and running back.

Give us Zach Levine.

Give us Zach Levine.

For Joel Embiid?

No.

Done.

No.

Not for Joel Embiid.

He's 29 years old, and his middle name is Hans.

He'll be 30 by the time they play the playoffs next year.

Uh-oh.

Young adjacent. He'll be fine.
He'll be fine. He's got a long career ahead of him in Philadelphia.
We're going to – maybe not this year. Maybe not this year.
But next year we're going to put pieces in front of – Oh, no. We're already giving up on – so 31.
So he's 31 now. Wait a minute.
Although Pat Bev is here and Pat Bev is going to change everything about the Sixers. That's true.
So you've already wasted Embiid's prime. Yeah.
We're already going next year. Not even this year.
You've wasted his prime. No, this year's back on.
This year's back on. Rewind.
Rewind. You want him and Fat James Harden who actually is starting to look fat? No, Pat Bev.
Yeah, no, but Fat James Harden only wants to go to the Clippers. You want Pat Bev to be your starting point guard? Yeah.
Okay. Yes.
Give me Pap Ev starting point guard. We figure out Harden for Levine.
Sure. Wait, what? I don't want fucking Harden.
No, we're going to do a little three-team trade. Okay.
Give you some assets. Yeah, you get some assets.
I'll take some assets. How many assets? I don't know.
We're going to work assets. They try to offload their unwanted players, and they put them on other teams.
Yeah. No, I don't want – Harden's not going to go to the Bulls.
Harden's going to go to the Clippers, and then maybe the fourth team. Assets to the Bulls.
We get Zach Levine. Why don't you just want to keep James Harden? Because he's not – he could get that.
Oh, because he wants to leave?

He could.

He definitely wants to leave, and he could get that.

Max, how much blame do you put on the fans?

Why don't you just have a good team that people want to play for?

On the fans, Max, because you did say they're going to run him out of town.

It sounds like you're a couple of people.

Well, I mean, the Twitter timeline was insane yesterday.

Just talking about how Joel Embiid is worthless.

Get him on.

If Joel Embiid wasn't on the Sixers, we wouldn't even make the playoffs for the next 10 years.

Damn.

Correct.

Fuck.

Like, Joel Embiid, all of a sudden,

that's why my cool girls are sitting in the middle of the Sixers

and never winning anything ever.

Especially Sixers fans,

they have the worst recency bias of all time,

and they immediately think that after one bad series. You just said next year's out.
Max, we can't let these guys get to us. As far as winning a title, but I'm just going back to the times where it was barely making the playoffs.
The process. Yeah, this is so interesting.
But going back to the times of the eighth seed. You don't deserve to have him.
Yeah. Yeah, but remember the step over?

That was sick.

Give him up.

No.

He's not happy with you.

No.

He's crying.

I still love him.

I still love him.

I still love him.

You're running him out of town by saying next year is a complete wash.

He still loves him.

No.

No, we're going to figure out.

We're going to get Harden out.

We're going to bring Levine in.

Assets to the Bulls.

You're not getting Zach Levine.

Shut the fuck up.

Stop saying assets.

I think the word assets. I think you guys should start tanking for some draft picks.
No. No more tanking.
Trust the process. Trust the process.
Alright. Your hot seat go through on PFT.
He was not trolling, by the way. I'm sorry for going off the rails.
My hot seat is our relationship with Kirk Cousins because the Netflix show quarterback came out and I'm coming out of the closet as a Kirk Cousins fan. I can, I've been, it's been buried deep inside me for a long time.
And it's like I'm a self-hating Kirk Cousins fan. So I've buried it so deep that I overcompensated for loving Kirk Cousins by hating him so much these last few years.
I love him. I love Kirk Cousins.
I'm not ashamed to admit it for the first time in maybe my entire life. I'm coming out to you guys.
I love Kirk Cousins. As a person, one of the greatest dudes hard not to root for.

The only thing that you can knock him for is that he gets paid too much because he actually played the game the right way when it came to the contracts and the franchise tag situations. Got himself into a situation where he's probably going to make $300 million over the course of his career or close to it.
Would you hear that figure and you think to yourself,

that's a lot of money for Kirk cousins because he's not like a top three, top five quarterback, but he's impossible to not like he really is. He, I will never love him because he does play for the Vikings and it is NFC North.
And I'm hoping the bears will be competing at the top of the NFC North but I like him I like him now uh watching him what solidified it for me was actually his wife talking about his wardrobe and she was like yeah people say online like oh what does he shop at Target or Kohl's and she was like yeah actually we do I was like yeah you know what like he's just a regular guy like he's just a regular guy he was in barnes and noble buying books and they're like oh we got actually a half price on this table he's like oh that's my lucky day and then goes over and buys some more books he's just a good i i was saying the other day kirk cousins would probably be the best neighbor in the world to have yeah he's a good guy he's a very good guy it's going to be hard to uh root against him but I will have to. But, yeah, he's a very good guy.
He was the big winner of that show. Yes.
And Mahomes won a Super Bowl. Yes.
And my other hot seat is Vietnam because U.S. Women's National Team opens up the World Cup against Vietnam on Thursday night.
So we're going back to finish the job. I'm going to have a full, full clip ready to go.
Vietnam war. Let's go.
Let's get after it. But yeah, we, I like watching the women's world cup.
It's fun. Do you see that commercial that they had in? Yes.
In France? Yes. That was a, it was a pretty good commercial for the women's world cup.
The, the billies and Andrew Tates of the world have no idea what to do with that commercial. Absolutely.
No idea They took. You can't put me in like that.
I guess I was really fucked up. You're Andrew Tate aspiring.
Yeah. No.
You're top G. I'm not.
I'm not. You're not a top G.
I actually, I like women's soccer more than men's soccer. Oh, really? I play harder.
Name five of your favorite players. Megan Rapinoe, Alex Morgan.
That was good. You came out hot out of the gate.
We've had some on the show. That was fucking good.
You are two for two. Boom.
Oh, oh. But yeah, the clip for people who didn't see.
Mia Hamm. They used...
She's former but i want to hear billy say at least one more current player uh not current name the one that's been on the podcast

billy he doesn't listen to the show that was no you were you were i was away no you were part of

the show billy's probably like he was not i was an intern that actually is when he should be

listening more though because he said he listened more than yeah no i listened more before my first

Thank you. He was not.
I was an intern. That actually is when he should be listening more, though, because he said that he listened more then.
No, I listened more before my first internship. Oh, okay.
Billy, did you see the commercial that we're talking about? Nope. The French women's soccer commercial? It's sick.
It's a compilation of all these great plays from the French men's national team, and it's talking about how amped up they get watching it.

And then halfway through,

they stop it. And they're like,

actually the doctor was a woman the whole time.

And they show behind the scenes CGI.

They just turned all the women into men for the video to make you think you

were watching men's soccer.

Cause when I was watching,

I was like,

I think that the French men's national team flops a little bit more than

this.

Yeah.

Cause the girls,

they don't.

That's why I like women's soccer better.

They go hard.

There's a lot of people who are not bitches. They're not.
No. They are.
They're alphas. No, they're not.
They're badass bitches. There we go.
They're girl bosses. They're boss bitches.
Yeah. I love that.
I mean, everybody's talking about how much you like a woman in power. You have use the word badass about her yeah girl boss they should have the there should be a world cup or i mean i'm happy the world the women's world cup is here but summer really needs to do like olympics every two years both world cups every two years so it's just every other year we get one or the other i agree i agree so it's gonna be fun to watch i've got i've got a nice little future and investment on the u.s women nice um okay you have another cool throne yeah my cool throne is um oh that was your yeah my cool throne is my my cold heart because i have decided to adopt a new dog yes so i've begun that that process and uh i'm just falling in love every dog that I see.
Just every dog I'm going through all these different websites, emailing people. I almost want to do a bachelor style competition to see who my next dog is going to be, but I can't, I can't wait.
You can't do that. Cause then the losers, you're like, what it, what people would, I was thinking about it.
And what would happen would be, I would have the first introduction on night one. I'd be like, okay, this is my dog.
Yeah. Because the day that I decide to leave my house and I've already bought a leash and a collar, the first dog that I see I'm going to take home.
Yes. So I'm very excited.
I'm ready to get back in the dog game. It's been way, way, way too long.
So very, very pumped about that new addition to my life that will be coming probably in the next couple weeks love it love it um all right my hot seat is bill belichick literally so there's a report out hank this is not this is a report from who tom curran okay is that fair fair he went on rich eisen uh today and he said you talk about avoiding the hot seat rich he's on the hot seat and he's been there at different levels of warmth since 2019 look at it this way in 2019 tom brady wanted a two-year 50 million guaranteed contract just like drew breeze he presumed he was going to get that in training camp it was still not forthcoming and he was like you know what if i don't get this thing i'm walking out it was explained to belichick that that was the case they got something done it was not a two-year guaranteed contract it was two years with a team option and uh then according to uh tom curran the patriots never had a plan for brady leaving and he is now belichick is now on the hot seat now i'll say if they fire belichick that's the dumbest move ever he is the greatest coach of all time right so why would they do that but Hank is not me reporting this is someone else reporting that Bill Belichick is on the hot seat it's very interesting Max and it wasn't Mike Florio yeah I mean that's surprising Florio definitely run with that for the next six months I don't know I like Tom Coren he's probably just you know, a little, it's, it's, it's surprising. Florida will definitely run with that for the next six months.
I don't know.

I like Tom Curran.

He's probably just, you know, a little – it's summer for him too.

He needs clicks.

He needs views.

He's got to get some stories out there that get some buzz.

It's easy to say that, you know, the seat's warm,

but there's no way that it is.

Do you think there's any lingering resentment between Kraft and Belichick

over what happened with the Jimmy G situation? No. I don't think there's any resentment for that.
How can you resent Bill Belichick if you're Robert Kraft after everything he's done for you? No, no, no, no. I'm saying Kraft essentially got rid of Jimmy Garoppolo because he was the replacement plan for Brady.
Yeah, but he won two Super Bowls. I don't think there's resentment for that.
Jimmy G is not going to play again. I think it's any successful sports franchise that wins multiple championships, there's just a credit pie that everyone wants a piece of.
So I don't think there's any resentment, but if you hit Robert Kraft with true serum, do you think he would be like be like yeah i kind of want a little more credit

for putting this whole thing together no probably no you don't think any i think he gets i think he gets i think he gets a lot of credit he's like one of the best owners in the history of sports that's a normal thing to to expect that a owner would want you know i mean i just i think about the last dance

and how bad

was it Jerry Reinsdorf?

Yeah.

Like that's not Robert Kraft. That's not Robert Kraft.
Okay. Okay.
It says he's officially on the hot seat. Yeah.
I don't know. Say the quote again.
That he's on the hot seat. No.

You talk about avoiding the hot seat.

He's on the hot seat, Rich.

He said he has been.

Yeah, you talk about avoiding the hot seat, Rich.

He's on the hot seat, and he's been there at different levels of warmth since 2019.

He is on the hot seat.

What could Bill Belichick do to get fired?

Nothing.

Not make the playoffs?

I don't know.

Hank, I agree with you.

It would be the dumbest move to fire a guy like that.

But you know how owners who are maybe getting up there in age think.

If you're Tom Kern, you're going on that show,

you've got to come with something.

Okay, Hank.

We're talking about it right now.

Good job, Tom.

Let's look at the post let's look at the post brady era in new england playoffs okay bills in buffalo in the cold wait wait that wasn't the playoffs i know but like that i said that playoffs was first comma didn't they get smoke like wasn't that one of the all-time blowouts in the history of the NFL? Yeah, he's talking about a different game, though. But before that, the season series was basically even.
Every drive they had was a touchdown and just stomped them into the turf. The season series was pretty much even.
And Mac Jones was basically a rookie, if I remember correctly. Here's a fun— No, no, wait, wait, wait, want you to do this thought experiment.
Just take the post-Brady era, and you look at what Belichick's done. You got Mack Jones in there.
You hired your son to be the defensive coordinator. Then you hired two guys that were cast-off coaches, one of which did not coach offense to come in and split the offensive coordinator duty.
Royley fucked that up going into this year. Would you not say that that coach would be on the hot seat? The only mistake of what you just said is the Patricia and like that was a mistake.
And he knows that. Okay, Hank, here's how in defense of Bill Belichick if you played a hypothetical bill belichick gets fired how many teams currently would fire their coach to hire bill belichick is everyone i would love to cheat it was would it be everyone but maybe the chiefs in the 49ers who else would who else wouldn't make that swap right away right maybe baltimore.
Maybe Baltimore. Maybe Broncos just because they hired Sean Payton, but it can't be more than five teams total that wouldn't fire their current coach.
Maybe the Steelers, Tomlin, but that's why you don't fire Bill Belichick. He would get a job instantly, and teams would fire their coach to get him.
That would destroy me. Would Belichick go into the Browns and winning a Super Bowl for the Browns? That would be all time.
He would love that. He would never go to the Ravens because of the way things ended in Cleveland.
But he would go back to the Browns to be like, hey, prodigal son, we're back. Let's run it back again.
Yeah. Yeah.
what would be the crazier story going to the browns or the jets or the jets or the bills he was like i'll bring up i'll bring a super bowl to buffalo i don't know if they'd fire mcdermott for bill i think they would i think and i like sean mcdermott a lot but i mean you're talking about bill belichick that's just cool throne. I have two.
One is Charles Barkley who, uh, I don't know what he was doing the other day, but he was giving a speech and he said, I ain't worried about getting canceled because let me tell you something. If you all fire me and give me all that money, I'm going to be playing golf every fucking day.
So listen, as I said last night, if you're gay, God bless you. If you're trans god bless you if you have a problem with them fuck you just great like he's like i cannot be canceled and we've also lost all sense of the term canceled because correct he's complaining now about like or not complaining but he's saying it's a possibility that people would cancel me from the other side of cancel culture yeah what i've learned about cancel culture is that everybody loves cancel culture oh yeah people there's a bunch of people out there that say like i abhor cancel culture cancel culture but you have to play by the same rules

as you guys make us play by everyone loves to cancel somebody that they personally don't agree

with yeah they it's it's i don't like cancel culture when it's coming after someone that i

like and then the minute i have a chance to cancel someone i don't like i'm all in yes that's

Thank you. Yeah, I don't like cancel culture when it's coming after someone that I like, and then the minute I have a chance to cancel someone I don't like, I'm all in.
Yes. That's cancel culture basically summarized.
And then my other cool throw is Aaron Donald. Seventh straight time.
He's a 99 overall in Madden. This is also, we talked about the signs that football's back.
The rankings coming out. Love it.
Love it. I don't even play mad yeah but i'm in uh okay billy my hot seat is tupac shakur's killer oh so today a press release was given by the las vegas police department that confirmed a search warrant was served in henderson nevada as part of the ongoing tupac Shakur homicide investigation.
Whoa.

So 30 years later, they busted down someone's door in relation to the investigation.

Not much outside of that press release,

but if you're out there, they're on to you.

You're fucked.

Who you got, Billy?

Suge Knight.

I think it was either Elvis.

I'm taking P. Diddy.

Elvis or JFK Jr. He's not actually dead well no he was

dead he died after wasn't was suge knight not in the car when it got shot up i have no idea okay good he might be the one person in the world with with a rock solid alibi he was in cuba okay uh and then my cool throne is using the horns down because according to john mcdade the sec's coordinator of officials on penalizing for horns down signal in 24 unsportman unsportsmanlike conduct needs to fit one of three categories is it taunting an opponent opponent is it making a travesty of the game is it otherwise compromising our our ability to manage the game? And he said that you can use horns down against Texas. Oh, so it's back.
It's back. Nice.
Cool thrown. It's back.
You get horns down. It should never have been banned.
Like, if you could do something, you can get it done to you. That's how it works.
That was also like the Big 12's dying attempt to get Texas to stick around for a long time. Yeah yeah we won't make fun of you for you yeah we won't we won't bully you anymore you can stay and uh the same applies to the gator chomp and land shark signals so it's all up for grabs all right nice like it like it all right jake uh my hot seats the new york jets uh adam shefter reported today that they will not be giving NFL films and HBO

as much access to Hard Knocks this year.

Yeah, they're not going to show guys getting cut.

They're not going to show guys getting cut,

so it might be a more like PG version.

So it's going to be different.

It's always awkward watching those scenes.

It is.

I understand why they put it in there because if you're making a TV show,

you have to have highs and lows.

You have to show drama.

You have to show people sad at different bad parts of their life.

But at the same time, it felt like a very personal moment

that everybody was involved with.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Kind of pussy by the Jets?

No, very smart.

Oh, okay.

They don't want their team getting turned into a circus,

which is what they're going to try to do. Nice, Nice.
If I was Aaron Rodgers or Zach Wilson, I would just try not to involve yourself. It also fits perfectly with how we've been watching Hard Knocks the last few years.
Episode 1 and 2 we get very excited for, and then we kind of forget that it keeps going. So that's perfect.
I wasn't even wasn't going to watch that episode anyway remember there's always one episode that's like comes out after college football starts you're like real football's on i'm good yeah if there's a suspension for like peds though i want to see that moment yeah yeah i want to see someone get popped uh okay your cool throne uh my cool throne is public's a few days ago messy was shopping at public Publix with his family yes big deal yes pretty crazy front of high noon too yeah in front of high noon so shout out Publix Pub Subs Pub Subs yeah Messi uh I thought that he was going to be a little more anonymous but like because at first I was like oh this is perfect for him he kind of can live his life he was getting hounded at Publix because he is messy. Yeah.
I mean, it's as close as you can get to having a normal shopping trip for messy. It'd be way worse if it was overseas somewhere.
I had a messy, uh, a Leo, Leo, Leo, Leo messy moments. Uh, the other day I took my son to his friend's birthday party and there was like older kids there and they were getting their sports takes off.
And one of them was messy sucks and i like i was like the arthur meme i was like don't you say that and then i realized i was reprimanding a seven-year-old that was not mine so uh the kid also was like lebron james the goat maybe kobe too i was like what the fuck this kid had terrible takes yeah but you got to respect the take yeah right better than max but you to respect the take. Like the take game, just that he's out there spitting them.
I respected it. I would actually love to see that kid debate Skip Bayless.
Yeah. Skip debating a seven-year-old.
Yeah. Why not? He might end up being that for his show.
Okay. Let's get to our interviews.
We got Rick Riley, and then we're going to do Mount Rushmore in between, Mount Rushmore

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He's got a new book out that is called.

So help me golf all true stories. He's got a new book out that is called So Help Me Golf.

All true stories. He's never told about people in the game.
And we're here. It's right in front of the Open Championship.
Rick, first of all, we haven't seen you in a few years. It's great to have you back on.
My first question was, what are you doing other than writing a book? Because you,

I think have figured out a life hack to like have the greatest semi retirement of all time in sports media.

Yeah.

Well, we live in Italy a couple of months a year and we bought a house in

Sedona, Arizona.

We live down there and you know,

it's,

it's kind of a great place when you have an occasional magic mushroom and then we live at the beach in LA and so I work occasionally once a month for the Washington Post and we got a writer's strike so I got a streamer about to go and suddenly now it's not going anywhere but I write movies and I'm writing a novel and I'm writing my next book. Yeah.
I mean, Rick, I think we talked about this last time you were on the show, but especially your columns at the end of Sports Illustrated, that was our childhood growing up. I read that column every day.
I think I told you last time that probably more people have used the bathroom while reading your columns than any other piece of writing in the history of the world. It was like the perfect, the link was the perfect amount of time to go in, take a quick dump, read Rick Riley, and then leave.
So I basically bought Sports Illustrated just for you for years. You're not lying.
I can't tell you how many people would come to me and go, I take my Friday morning dump reading you. And he'll have his hand out, and I'm like, great, but I'm not shaking that hand.

I'm sorry.

I'm not doing it.

Yeah.

It really was like a big part of our childhood.

We're in that perfect age range when the sports, like kind of the end of sports columnists being celebrities in a way,

where it's like, oh, you remember reading them.

So back to your retirement, or semi-retirement that sounds phenomenal you have you have figured it all out I think we might have discussed this when we saw you in person uh last time you're on but do you look back and and realize like man I really I crushed this landing because there was a moment where I think you would probably even say like you you were in in a weird role at ESPN, on air, didn't really work out that well.

Like, hey, is Rick Riley going to become, like, someone we laugh at?

Or is he going to be able to figure this out?

And it sounds like you completely figured it out and have the best life I've ever heard.

Well, I was, like, the last guy, you know, before Disneyland burned down.

I think I got a great deal.

And then when that deal was over, they were starting to fire everybody. And I think the same with SI.
I mean, I got out of SI at the perfect time. And people now, you see SI and it's like a pamphlet comes out.
I don't even know when it comes out now. Magazines are dead.
I mean, when I was at the LA Times, I think we had 60 writers and editors. They're down to seven.
So the whole world of print media is not what it used to be. And you're right.
It's a whole different world. When anybody can have a column and anybody can have an opinion that's got a couch and an internet and a computer, then you're not that special anymore.
So that's why I think I got out at a pretty good time. Have ever thought though about bringing back the one column a week because i i feel like there would still be a market for rick riley's takes on a friday morning if you just re if you just redid that column but on the internet you could just tweet it the long tweet but how but you understand i don't want to work yeah a good point.
That's a good point. And offered a million podcasts and could I do a radio show? And I'm like, look, kind of sounds like work.
Well, yeah, it would be work. Well, I don't want to work.
So I like to write two hours a day. That's all I do.
And then the rest of the time we're either in Vietnam or, or Italy. We just got back from golf in Ireland.
We go to Turkey a lot. I mean, it's too good.
I mean, why work if you don't have to worry? That's a great point. Yeah, I was thinking selfishly, like I would like to read Rick Riley's column still.
I do. I do occasional funny one in the Washington Post, but I don't know if you subscribe to that.
Okay. Okay.
So you have a new book out, So help me golf. Um, let's talk about it.
Uh, your love affair with golf. You hated golf when you were a kid, correct? And then you, what was the moment you fell in love with golf? Right? Well, my dad was a drunk golfer and he'd come home abusive and it was, you know, you, you, you hid when my dad came home from golf, you hit, uh, except, you know, worried about your mom.
And, you know, I was the youngest by far by five years. So it was scary.
It was terrifying. And when you'd hear those, he'd forget to take off his cleats, you know, and you'd hear that click, click, click on the sidewalk.
And, God, that sound still gives me the chills. And you would be scared.
And, you know, he broke my mom's nose once. And it was just, I just blamed golf.
I thought golf was where guys, dads went to get drunk and, and ruin home life, you know? And so when my dad gave my brother, my older brother, his old clubs, he goes, come on, we're going, I was 11. I think we're going to the range.
I'm not going to the golf course ever. A dad might be there.
B I hate golf. He goes, no, you're going to love it.
And I went there with him and just watched him hit these soaring drives. And I'm like, wow, other dads aren't really drunk.
And this is really cool. And you're outside and it was really fun.
And you got to bet Dr. Peppers.
And so I kind of developed this sick obsessiveness with golf and it became this thing that I couldn't get enough of. And so that's what I wrote about in this book, these 45 years worth of stories about real things that have happened in golf that are either funny or amazing or emotional.
And during COVID, I finally had time to write it. Yeah.
Yeah. Sounds interesting.
I actually have a golf story for you. I don't know if you know this, but it coincides with your two biggest, I guess, interests in writing about recently, President Trump and golf.
Yes. So I got a DM that was sent to me a couple years ago about going for a round of golf.
There was a guy that was playing with Papa John and with Trump at the same time. And throughout the round, Papa John started busting Trump's balls for cheating and started calling him out on some of this stuff, right? The real battle of the Titans going at it.
And by the end of the round, they get to the clubhouse and Trump has had told his guys to order pizza hut

pizzas for everybody that was in the clubhouse.

So like dozens and dozens of pizza hut pizzas were waiting in the clubhouse.

And he handed one to Papa John when they,

when they got in at the end of it, just to be like, fuck you,

you don't get to call me out for cheating.

I'm going to order pizza hut for everybody.

Okay. So I wrote this book.

I think you can see it in the background.

It's called commander and cheat because I'm in Italy and he's running for president. And he goes, he goes, I'm the best.
I'm a champion. I've won 18 club championships and that's against the best guys, the young guys, no strokes.
I'm like, you liar. Cause he'd already told me when I play with him for who's your caddy, that he, the way he wins club championships is when he buys a new course, he plays the first round by himself, and he calls that the club championship.
I love that. And he won 12 that way, and I'm like, wait a minute.
So I started looking into the other six, and then a guy says, well, yeah, one time he won here, but it was in New Jersey at Bedminster, but he was in Philly. And he called in and said, hey, man, I shot – what won Bedminster today in the club championship? And the guy goes, 73.
He goes, I shot 71 here. Make me the championship.
And then he just kept doing it. Like one year he won in North Korea? He wasn't even in Florida.
And he said he came back and played the guy nine holes, said he beat him. And so then he was a club championship of that.
And how about the other day? He wins a club championship two days. I think it was at Bedminster.
But he only played one of them because his tweets and his social media showed that he was in North Carolina at some funeral. On the first day, he's like, well, I would have beat those guys.
Yeah. I kind of like the fact that he just takes claim of all these wins.
Like if I had a ton of fuck you money, I think I would pay people to like stand in the woods and just drop my ball in the drive in the fairway. So like I didn't know that I was out of bounds, but I could just basically shoot a great score all the time and have people do that for me.
You're talking about Mr. Burns and Smithers.
Yeah, right. The caddies at Wingfoot call him Pele because he kicks the ball so much.
When I play with him, he took seven gimmies. He took a gimme chip in.
I never heard of a gimme chip. And he said, why would we make that? I'm like, you chip like Edward Scissorhands.

And did you see that video like a week ago? I completely shanked it at LA. And so since the book came out and it was eye popping stuff, the more I researched it, the more ridiculous it got.
But since the book come out, I've gotten all these calls and I get a call from the caddy master at Bedminster.

And he goes, you don't get it.

We have to buy him 500 bags, 500 count bags of long green teas, four inches high. And I'm like, so it's perfectly legal.
He goes, no, it's for the caddies to tee him up in the rough. Wow, that would make you a three handicap pretty quick.
I mean, you saw the press release though when he when he shot that hole in one he was playing with ernie else and it was it was the most grandiose press release that i've ever seen in my life there's no way that he he made that entire story up he was playing with with a foursome of talented golfers that co-signed it into a stiff wind stiff wind very exciting everyone's talking about it ernie's not going lie but you know there is a hole in one he made of bronx ferry uh a plaque he made it on the first day and i've now had three people tell me after the book of course he didn't make a hole of one there he just wanted a plaque so no he's a nice golfer he's a nine he's a 10 tiger says he's like an 11. I think most people think he's now like a 12 or 13.
But he says he's a 3. He says he's a 2.8, which I said in the book.
If he's a 2.8, then Queen Elizabeth is a pole vaulter. Because I've played with the guy.
Too soon. Too soon, Rick.
She passed away. Rick, where are you at with Tiger these days? Because I feel like you a uh interesting history with him is he your goat or is it uh you guys when was the last time you guys spoke well uh tiger uh shut down me in 1997 he said i'm not giving you any more one-on-ones and i said why it's just because you're always asking questions like yeah that's the job but the thing is I was a Phil guy.
I loved Phil. Phil, I thought was the best guy for me out there.
He was always telling stories. He tipped people 500 bucks.
He comes to my club in LA and he'll play and he'll tip the guy 700 bucks, the caddy, and the caddy doesn't have to carry the clubs. Phil carries the clubs just for workout.
So I always loved Phil until he sold his soul to the devil, went to the Liv, which I hope everybody in Liv dies in a fiery boat accident. I hate Liv.
I hate the whole idea of it. Imagine you guys, if they took half the NFL and said, hey, half the teams are going to move to Saudi Arabia, we're going to pay them five times what they're worth, they're only going to play three quarters, and you're going to not ever see these, you'll never get to see these week after week playing each other.
That's what happened to my sport. And so, yeah, now we've got this baloney deal with the PGA Tour, who I understand they were going to lose because money always wins.
But it's still, you understand the Saudis kill protesters. They behead protesters.
They put gays in jail. They killed Jamal Khashoggi of the Washington Post.
They might have funded a lot of the 9-11. So everyone says, never forget 9-11.
Well, don't forget it. Don't forget it, Jimmy Dunn.
You were in the, your company was in the World Trade Center. And now you're in bed with the Saudis? I mean, it's, and you know how many, sorry to rant, but do you know how many golf courses Saudi Arabia has? Full 18 hole with grass.
They got nine. They don't care about golf.
They're trying to sports wash their image. And a bunch of these guys took the money so they could get new jets.
And Phil was one of them, but Tiger didn't. And so I love Tiger for that.
Right. Okay.
Kind of my position on, on the live tour. And it's evolved over the course of last year is that I don't blame the players at all.
The players were offered life-changing money. And the ones that stuck around were sold a bill of goods by the PGA saying, hey, you can't go to these guys, like all the stuff you just said, right? They basically said all that to their players and said, you don't want to be in bed with these same guys that killed journalists.
They might have funded 9-11, all this stuff. And then the PGA just goes and does an about-face and welcomes the live merger.
I don't blame the players. If you're offered life-changing money, if you're offered a hundred billion dollars to do anything, do it, do it because you're not going to get that money over here to the United States.
And it looks like the guys that ended up taking the money, they came out looking better than we all thought at the start because it was their own people at the PGA tour that were kind of suppressing the, the earning ability of their own players at the end until it became an opportunity for them to make money off of it. Well, no one thought they were suppressing the earning ability until the Saudis came along and just gave away stupid monopoly money.
But I want to comment on what you're saying is Phil couldn't have made that in the U.S. He could.
He was always in the top 10 athletes. He'd made about 40 million a year in endorsements, lost all those.
He had Faldo's job gift wrapped for him at CBS. He was going to make about 14 to 15 a year in that.
It was just a dumb, selfish move. And what he said was, I'm not doing it.
He admitted that the Saudis are motherfuckers. He admitted it.
But he said, I'm trying to teach the PGA a lesson. So like, it'd be like a guy going, hey, yeah, I slept with my secretary because I want to teach you, my wife, a better lesson on how to treat me.
It doesn't work that way. You don't get to do that.
So I mean, I see what you mean for Pat Perez or a player like that, Taylor Gooch.

They're going to make-

Or like Bubba Watson, whose son was always asking about the Aces, how are the Aces doing this weekend. And also, counterpoint with Phil, I mean, he had to pay his gambling debts.
So if he was a better gambler, maybe history looks different. Well, Billy Walter's book comes out next month, and that is going to be wild.
Yeah. Because I know Billy, and I kind of know about the book.
It doesn't come out until, I think, August 25th. But apparently there's a chapter in there about Phil that's going to blow people out of the water.
Okay. I'm excited.
I'm excited. So let's go back to your book.
So what – I mean, you told the story. I didn't know the story about your dad and how you didn't like golf growing up.
So, you fall in love with the game. What's your favorite story from the book or maybe favorite course you've played? Because this podcast has actually gotten into golf a little too much.
Our producer, Hank, is obsessed. That's all he does.
But I'm trying to be supportive and be like, go ahead.

You know, don't work anymore. Go play golf.
Okay. Did you guys know there was a guy on tour in 1977, a guy named Ricky Meisner, who was a tour rabbit.
It means you had to qualify on Monday. If you were one of the 10 guys that got through on Monday out of 100, then you got to play Thursday.
Well, he was doing badly.

He was down to where he was sleeping in his car.

He was down to where he was sleeping in his car. He was eating at campsites on his hibachi.
And he was going to have to go home. He didn't want to go home.
So he started robbing banks. This guy, Ricky Meisner, robbed 19 banks on tour in 1977.
And he would change the plates on his car, put on a fake mustache and a wig. He had a vinyl briefcase and a gun, but he didn't have any bullets.
And he would go and give me all your money. But he was very polite.
And this bandit became known as the gentleman bandit that year, who was, you know, tellers would cry and he would comfort them and then still take the money. And then he got to Memphis, he got to Tallahassee, summer of 1977, and he gets through, he finally breaks through, and he's starting on Thursday.
This is a guy at that point had robbed 18 banks. He breaks through, he leads the Tallahassee Open in 1977.
He's ahead of Trevino, Hubie Green, Weisskopf. He's on top.
And the press are like, where have you been? And he's like, oh, you know, I've really been working on my game. What they don't get is that every Tuesday when he missed the cut, he was robbing banks.
And so anyway, he shoots the 66, leads the Tallahassee Open. Next day, 76.
Next day, 78. Next day, 80.
Finishes dead last. And he's so pissed that the next morning as he's leaving Tallahassee, he goes to rob a bank, but he forgets to change the license plates.
Rob gets, I think, five grand or something. He's leaving town.
Car's right there. He gets busted.
He gets 25 years in jail. But if you Google him, he did lead the tour in money that year.
Wow. Wow.
That's crazy. Like Chiefsaholic kind of.
Yeah. Hey, I wrote about the Chiefsaholic for the Washington Post.
Did you follow these guys' tweets? Yeah, yeah, we did. So we actually sent our best man, Billy Football, to go try to track him down in Kansas City.
Went looking for him. We were thinking that this year the perfect crime would have been if he – because he was out on – I guess he skipped bail and then he was MIA.
He should have gone to different games, different Chiefs games every year or every week, but dressed up as super fans from the opposing team, and nobody would have ever found him. It's so good.
It's like that movie with Bill Murray. I was just praying that this guy wore the wolf costume to rob the bank.
Yeah. He didn't.
He wore a paintball mask, and all he had was a paintball gun i don't know if people realize that like why would you give this guy money if you're just going to get shot up with blue and purple but but then the fact that he was on the lamb for two months was wonderful yeah it was an incredible story crazy story so rick it is it is the week of the open um you actually had a front row seat to history at the Open Championship. You were there on 18 when Vandeveld melted down, right? Yes.
What was that like in person? Just watch because I still remember watching on TV. If you haven't seen it, go back and watch this guy just completely blow it on the 18th hole of the final round.
He ends up taking his shoes off to try to hit a shot out of the water. But what was it like for you being front and center? He's got a three-shot lead.
He's got a three-shot lead, 18th hole, Carnoustie, which they call Carnoustie because it's so hard, especially those last three holes. And there's all these water and canals, and it's kind of an ugly course and it's nothing but trouble.
But he's got a three-shot lead. He's this French guy.
He's got this French little caddy with a little goatee, and we'd always talk to this caddy afterwards. And so he's pulling out driver, and we're standing there like, what is he doing? Driver? No, no.
You can hit a five-iron, wedge, wedge on, win the thing by two shots. Pulls out driver, blocks it way right.
Now he's in deep gunch. He's got grandstands in the way.
And we're like, well, clearly now he's going to wedge on nine iron, wedge onto the fairway, nine iron on, and win by two shots. No, he takes two iron out of the gunch and he hits it bad, hits the stands, goes back, gets worse, hits it again, knocks that into the water.
And then he finally gets into the water with his socks and shoes off like he's going to hit it. It's got to be six inches deep in the water.
And he stood there, I'll never forget, he stood there with his arms on his hips like, I am the king of the world. I'm going to pull this off.
And we're like, oh,. And he finally takes the drop, knocks it up, makes like a 12 footer even to make the playoff and loses in

the playoff to Justin Leonard. So we go find the caddy.
We find the French caddy. And we're like,

Christophe, why did you, why did you have him hit driver? He's so good with his driver. Well,

why didn't you just wedge out of that lie behind the stands? Oh, the lie, it was parfait. I'm like, stop.
You blew it. You should have broken every club but the wedge, and you'd be the champion.
It's very, very sad. Was that hard to watch up close? I mean, it was unbelievable.
It was like surreal, yeah, and it ruined his life his wife divorced him not because he lost but he just became depressed and he's a really nice guy but i mean he really didn't crack an egg after that yeah it was i mean it's an all-time all-time video for people who haven't seen it that image of him in the water is just what are you doing what are you doing you doing? I mean, I've seen so much history. I mean, I had a long, long career.
I mean, I'll never forget Tiger coming to this course starting Thursday and hit one driver. He hit one driver in 72 holes.
I saw Nick Faldo win the Open at St. Andrews, never three-putted.
I mean, I was there when Nicholas came from five shots down with nine to play at Augusta in 86, and women were climbing trees in dresses. It was nuts.
Guys who were supposed to be running the hot dog stand and the ice cream stand just ran. Everything was chaos because Jack Nichols at 46, who hadn't done anything in four years, was going to win the Open.
He could barely see the ball land. He had his caddy, his son is his caddy.
And he'd be like, where is it? Because he didn't know. Remember he putted with that long Hoover attachment putter? And it's funny, in the book, I said, you know, where's, where is that putter? I was at his house.
And he goes, I don't know where that putter is. And I'm like, you don't know where the putter is that won the 86 Masters? No, because he's got this grass tennis court outside his office window.
He said, tennis players come all the time to get ready for Wimbledon on my court. And I remember the tennis player took it and I never got it back.
And so I finally found it. This guy named, he died.
His name is Stockton. And his wife had it.
His wife had it in the garage. So she sent it to Nicholas's museum.
Incredible. Incredible.
I mean, the history of golf and all the stories, especially because it feels like golf. I know the live stuff has been weird this past year or two years, but it does feel like golf is getting bigger and bigger with, with new audiences.
Who's your favorite favorite golfer right now or who's the guy maybe you're rooting for this weekend that you're like this is this is a guy i could see you writing a book about in 20 years homer okay he's our guy yeah yeah i love it when people send him swings and they want and they want feedback and he'll be like, take the club back farther and then throw it in the garage and never play again. Yeah.
Or he'll go, really, there's no hope for you. He's so good on Twitter.
He's so smart. I'd love to see him win this.
I don't care, though. I just don't want anybody from Liv.
And I'm afraid can Smith's going to win it. Cause he's hot as can be Rory.
You know, I stopped betting on Rory years ago. I think John Rahm could win it.
He's just unstoppable. I try to, I'm trying to make my backswing as short as him.
So I think it's going to be a terrific open, but I just, I just don't want any live players. I would accept Brooks, except Brooks.
would love to see brooks win yeah brooks yeah brooks our guy we're big fans of brooks he's become a friend and all he does is you have to at least respect the fact that he just shows up for the biggest events and he's got to be you tell me if i'm wrong but brooks has to be he's not he's not the same conversation as Tiger, but in terms of showing up for majors and when the pressure's on, like playing his best golf, he's the, he is the closest to that right now. Yeah.
That's the only time he seems to care. He doesn't give a rat's ass about every Buick open that comes along.
He doesn't care. He just wants to lift and screw around.
And then the thing is that why I don't blame Brooks or Dustin Johnson about the Saudi thing. I don't think they know where Saudi Arabia is.
I don't think they have any idea. It was like when Rodman went to Korea and didn't know there were two Koreas.
I guarantee you Dustin Johnson didn't know where Saudi Arabia was or what they meant. I mean, one time I wrote this line about Dustin.

I said, Dustin Johnson is so dense, light bends around him. And I asked his agent the next day, was he mad about that line? And his agent goes, he had no idea what you meant.
Yeah. He doesn't take the money.
But Phil knew. Phil understood.
Yeah., it's like, it's hard to ask and demand of all of our athletes to be like the most geopolitically aware people in the world. You know, these are conversations that should be happening at higher levels.
And there is some truth to the fact that if you, if you hate the public investment fund, if you hate Saudi Arabia, well, guess what? You probably give them money nine times every day and you don't even know about it. If you ride in Uber or you go to Chipotle, guess what? Some of that money going back to MBS.
Hey, I've covered athletes my whole life and you're totally right. I asked too much of them.
They make their money with their bodies, not their brains. I mean, have you heard the story about Marvin Barnes played for Providence? No, tell us.
Marvin Barnes was this guy who played for Providence and he had a terrific college career and then he went pro and he was in all kinds of trouble and he flunked out of the league in two years. He's living above a liquor store in Providence and he's down on his luck.
He's got a gun, puts on a ski mask. By the way, he's seven foot tall, puts on a ski mask, goes down and robs the liquor store underneath his apartment.
And he says, give me all your money. And the cashier is like, Marvin, what are you doing? Marvin goes, it ain't me.
And so you're right. I should just be happy with what they can do with their bodies and not what they can do with their brains, and I should back off, but I just can't help it.
It's also, you know, there are serious discussions about everything that goes on with Liv and everything behind it.

But one of the things that I think has been worked in our favor for this show,

as we've always realized that sports are an escape for a lot of people

and they're supposed to be fun.

And I just want to see the best players play against each other.

That was one of the bigger parts of Liv is not having Brooks for that brief period of time

where it's like, oh, he's not going to get to play in the majors.

They're going to ban him from stuff.

I want to see the best compete against the best. I want to see great golf.
I want to see moments that make me have memories for years and years and years. And that's really what I want from sports.
So you don't give a damn what they do in their off time. Guy beats his wife, kill the guy there's obviously you know you're not gonna i'm not gonna root for people who are uh committing crimes but i do think that it gets a little murky because people do want to just sit down and watch sports yeah you're right and that's that's one reason i'd never like i didn't like to root for tiger because he was terrible with fans he didn't people.
He gets up from dinner tables and doesn't leave any money. You know, he's not a nice guy, I don't think.
I don't think he's ever been a people person. He's very insular.
He still just hangs out with his high school and college buddies, which is fine. But, I mean, I think the world deserves more from you than that.
And that's why I didn't like him but then he stood up against Liv and now I just I just love him for that so I mean I guess you're right I expect too much I think too much is my problem yeah you got to be dumb like us that's actually the real that is no seriously no no no no no I'm taking that as a compliment um I I've always always thought I have the perfect amount of intelligence where I'm not smart enough to understand complex issues, but I'm also a little bit smarter than the dumbest. That's exactly where you want to be in life.
So you're somewhere right in the middle. Somewhere right in the middle where you can understand like, oh, that might be a bad thing.
And you can also say, hey, that's a dumb thing, you never could really explain either side right you're not you're not plagued by the geopolitical social and climate troubles of the world no that shit no i don't lose any sleep on that shit no sleep yeah i start with bourbon at six o'clock and i stopped worrying about it too uh rick where are we at with the broncos i know that you you hated nathaniel hackett we we got to meet nathaniel hackett training camp last year and he is he's the nicest guy in the world you would actually love nathaniel hackett as a person i didn't hate nathaniel hackett you know just to set it i've been a bronco fan since they became a team um but he he said hey after he's fucked up the timeouts goes, I'm gonna let someone else handle the timeouts. Then he completely screwed the play calling when he wanted a 63 yard field goal.
Instead of going for it on fourth and five, the guy had never kicked any, well, I think he kicked us. It was a, to tie, it was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
And so he goes, you know what? I'm not very good at play calling. I'm like, I'm gonna let someone else call the play.
Well, what are you good at? What do you do? Fold the towels? Yeah, we can't have you around. So I love this.
I love the Sean Payton fit. And I think that maybe he'll make Russell Wilson be a normal person.
And also, Sean Payton is a baller because he belongs to my club in LA. and somebody found his wallet on the course and had 15 grand of hundreds in it.
I love it. And they give it back to him.
And he's like, oh, thanks. Like he didn't really care.
Baller. I love this guy.
So you think he can fix Russell? No, I kind of, I kind of think Russell spent. I do too.
I do too, unfortunately. But yeah.
And also, could you not take yourself so seriously? Did you see where he was pretending on warm-up practice days to run out and do the low fives with people? Yeah. It's reps.
Yeah. You had an office.
I mean, I'm buddies with Elway and you, when you're a quarterback, you got to be in with alignment, a regular guy. Peyton was like that too, doing stuff with those guys, being a regular guy.
And Russell's not, I don't know what he thinks. He's going to be ambassador to Sweden or something.
He's going to be the governor of Colorado. I don't know what he thinks, but he's not not being a regular guy and I hope Sean makes him just one of the 53 instead of you know here comes Prince Russell sounds like you've got a limited mindset you're not you're not unlimited like Russ like you would never do high knees on a plane ride over to your house in Italy right you probably just sit back have a glass of wine fall asleep yeah you don't have it in you to watch every single college quarterback in next year's draft and then tell the GM, hey, here are my thoughts.
Well, that's the thing. Peyton did do that, but he never talked about it.
Yeah, I know. It is true.
The Russ stories always find a way to get out that make Russ look like the hardest worker ever, and you're like, what? Who said that? How did this get out? Peyton's so funny. I see him the other day and he goes, I got a good one off on Elway the other day.
I'm like, tell me, tell me. And he goes, well, I was talking to him.
I said, you know, John, when you won in 98 with the helicopter, beat the charger, you beat the Packers, 13 point underdogs, Pat Bowling stands up in front of all those 70,000 people. He goes, this one's for John.
So I said to Elway, I go, how do you know he's talking about you? I mean, there's a lot of Johns. I like it.
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Have you thought at all in the last couple of years about Kate Upton having three boobs? Hey, I haven't, but didn't I win worst tweet last year i it was something like that it might have been the year before but yeah you had you had a takey for worst tweet um we just loved the three i mean the three boots who won the takey for worst tweet uh this year i don't know who actually we had we changed the categories because we forget again back to the dumb part we do um we change the categories so nothing is consistent which is very stupid and hard to follow uh i think revel had a couple bad tweets that we threw in there jay williams had a couple oh yeah jay williams when he said he was not going to take the georgetown job or he'd be interested in the georgetown job yeah rick rick do you think that Kevin Durant joining the sons was like Kate Upton getting a third boob? Yeah. Um, I've, I've really gotten off the third boob thing.
Although I do like sci-fi movies. I think that's what happened there.
Okay. You were right to call me out.
It wasn't a good tweet. As Bill Simmons always tells me, Hey, every time you get in twitter just hang on it's all over in eight minutes yes true and and you guys killed me for eight minutes and i live and i lived with it oh no we killed you for like four years yeah i know it's been it's been a long we still talk about whenever whenever i make a rick riley-esque joke big cat will award it points based on the richter scale of how many k dupton boobs it gets yeah uh he's oh we've surpassed three boobs before yeah yeah hey but you know you're right about the uh there should be chips in a ball did i did you see that tweet i said there's chips in the golf ball and there's going to be because i talked to the guy that's in charge of compliance, and he said, we're going to allow that someday because you can have 10,000 people.

Look, if Tiger hits a shot, he gets literally 10,000 people looking for his ball.

Is that more fair than when you lose a ball?

No.

It's no different.

So why can't a chip look for it?

He even said, we will allow those little tiny drones that are coming

that will then be able to follow the ball after you hit it.

I'll see you hit it. I love it.
That'll be fine. As long as nobody touches the ball until you get to it.
And I said, so Patrick Reed is screwed. And he goes, yes.
I absolutely love that. It finally levels the playing field between me and Tiger Woods.
That's what I've been waiting been waiting for yep i'm like i'm like a block if only i could find my ball i'd be as good as these guys on tour because rory and rory's at rory's distance and finding the ball i would be a world-class golfer you know what they call patrick reed on tour table for one yeah i like that yeah yeah i mean he doesn't have a lot of friends guy doesn't have a lot of friends because he cheats yeah well and maybe he stole a couple wallets but who cares that was alleged uh he does actually though for everything about patrick reed his wife does have a burner account that tweets on his behalf so like you it is good like there's probably guys out there that are beloved that don't have such a ride or die relationship with their spouse. And they're probably jealous in a weird way of Patrick.
Well, people speaking to people who tweet for other people, Trump hired his caddy to be his director of social media at the White House. This guy, Dan.
And sometimes you could see Dan was putting it on his account, some stupid tweet, and then forgetting that he was also putting it on Trump's account. That's how Kevin Durant got caught.
Yeah. That's how Kevin Durant got caught.
Well, Rick, thank you as always. Hopefully we'll see you in person sometime soon.
Maybe play some golf. Maybe get you in a golf video with us.
I'm coming to Chicago. I want to see that.
I want to see the simulator. Yes, I'm going to send it to you.
It's going to be incredible. Thank you, guys.
All right, thanks, Rick. Real quick, I did find the Rick Riley tweets that might have won you a takey award for worst tweet.
This is sent to us by Jake, actually. Let's hear it.
Kicking a field goal when you're down eight helps you the way a ham sandwich helps you when you're drowning dumbest move ever oh that was that was the floor yeah that was the floor and then we agree with that take oh you won the 2018 takey for rick riley joke of the year so you won your own award nice it's uh cam newton after of the game and he's wearing a fez and you say when it comes to game info, Cam Newton is a fez dispenser. That was bad.
That was a pretty good one. I think that column was the time I timed how long it took Cam Newton to get ready after a game to talk to the press.
And it was 57 minutes. And I think he did his hair for 10 minutes.
He only has hair this long. And meanwhile, his whole team is waiting on the bus.
And he wouldn't turn around. I wouldn't say I timed it because I'd seen it before.
And then finally he turns around in all his magnificence and gives you nothing. So I think that's where that came from oh it's so good yeah keep it you know keep taking your shots rick i don't think your shots no come on i you know i i've had notifications turned on for your tweets for the last eight years yeah every time you tweet i know about it it's also like it's you're you're basically like america's father like every you know like dad jokes that you know you like kind of roll your eyes at you're like but maybe deep down that was kind of funny yeah the thing about people people hate they think oh that's so that's so clever and and so punny i mean i break two teeth and i pull a hamstring trying to think of some of those things.
You try it. It's not easy.

Yeah, you don't roll out of bed going three-upped in booze. two teeth and I pull a hamstring trying to think of some of those things.
You try it. It's not easy.

Yeah, you don't roll out of bed going three Upton boobs.

Come on.

Take some hard work.

I actually met Kate Upton once and I'm like, I think she looked better with three.

I do.

We'll love it.

Thank you, Rick.

And hopefully we see you soon.

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Okay, Mount Rushmore time. We thought we'd do a Mount Rushmore of running backs to give them some love.
We also realized we did the math and we had taped a bunch of Mount Rushmores and we were one short before Grit Week. So next on Friday, you'll see us all back together.
Mount Rushmore season is getting intense. Boys, we are in for a big time August.
What are the official standings? Big time PFT, 11 points. And then we have a two way tie for second and third.
Me and Billy, Max and Hank, 10, 10. PFT, our penalty might end up up killing us yeah um i'll wear that one if that's the case you'll have to let me use you as a pillow that's fine i'll sleep on top of you uh yeah i gotta i gotta take my hat off though to billy and jake they've been on the tear of all tears recently congratulations guys shocking i'm shocked incredible incredible to be fun.
I'm happy. Listen, it's good that we have some competition.
Some contention. Some contention before the first month of Mount Rushmore season.
It looked like it was going to be a blowout. There was not going to be any drama.
We're going to get drama. It's going to be intense.
Yeah, I for one would like to say that I think the time has come to remove the rule for billy and jake where we give them one extra fourth pick yes they've leveled the plan field you can't we're big boys that makes no sense pft that's gonna get confusing now yeah remember we can't say that also starting on grit week they don't get a last pick twice okay yeah what i'm pretty sure the first one we recorded in pinehurst pft was like they have zero points yeah yeah that one hasn't aired yet so listen you'll we wanted to do mount rushmore season where we're all together uh so that's why we taped a bunch i think it's better product for the awls and if you complain i'll just take away your eighth aw your AWL. Like, that's just, that's simple.
We can do that. We can take it away.
But either way, yeah. So we have one today.
We'll go back to the pre-tape ones until Grit Week. Then once we're at Grit Week, it will be live throughout the rest of August.
So that's the schedule. Mount Rushmore of running backs.
Who's going first? So on the dock, the last one we recorded was Triangles. And that was Big Cat's team, our team, Hank's team first so i'm the doc the last one we recorded was triangles and that was big cats team our team hank's team so that would mean us hank's team big cats team fine with me let's go by the doc okay we're gonna need we're gonna need some start double checking that doc jake you have public access to it oh yes you know i don't check always gives public eye access uh okay billy and jake are on the clock they're doing mount rushmore of running backs we're going a one one bo jackson what the heck we literally talked and agreed on a one one what are you doing jake that's not a bad pick bo jack no i know but like we had a woes are woes are one one down jay fuck oh no oh no i always get them mixed up down jay okay bo jackson i mean electric running back his career got cut short I don't know what that was.
We don't know how good he really could have been. That's true.
We also include the college career. That's part of him as running back.
Yeah, absolutely. That's a fine pick.
Yeah, that's a good pick. Yeah, it's just how it went.
Okay. That was Jake.
That was a hard H. Yeah, I just was not expecting that.
I'm like, that was truly blindsided.

Okay.

All right.

That's our pick.

All right.

I'm also going to audible from R11, and we're going to go with Barry Sanders.

That was R11.

I was thinking, I was like, I don't want to say R11 because I feel like you can't mess that up.

Sorry, Max. No, I like that.
I we didn't get whatever it's a good pick it's good pick

i would say that for a first pick we should go number five on the list

oh god okay well should we go should we because the only thing is we should also do nine

so the question is do we do two old or do two and nine so it's a little mix and match i think we go i think we go nine five okay and then okay and then we dance our way to the end zone okay all right let's do that all right so our first pick is going to be sweetness walter payton easy easy first pick i love that pick for you guys what what what was that pick what is that chill the fuck out what was that pick what was that it's a good pick are you are you are you patronizing i'm just saying that on i'm just saying i like that pick for you i'm very confused what's happening right now usually don't give compliments like yeah i'm just it's a good pick something suspect there you're getting excited because they didn't pick what you wanted maybe okay yeah we have another pick i got i got it okay all right go ahead pft jim brown the greatest athlete of all time played against plumbers greatest athlete of all time yeah greatest running back of all time you see you actually see a lot of lists that people put out and jim is number one. I think we actually got both the number ones.
It's good to know that. Morals and ethics mean nothing to you guys.
I'm going to take OJ next too. Well, actually, we're taking OJ next.
Oh, shit. He had to be picked.
Had to be picked. Great the sport he was the first celebrity running back all superstar was the biggest celebrity in the world legend for what reason was he the biggest celebrity in the world he won the Heisman Trophy he was in movies he was in movies famous in a famous brown was also using the tabloids all the time everything you said was the truth for jim brown but yeah well yeah i know pft pft ruined my joke there but that's all right yeah that's okay separate the art from the artist exactly okay peter king rules we're not judging the human.
We're judging the running back.

Okay. Good pick.

Thank you.

For a murderer. Two now?

Double murder.

Yeah, true. Serial killer, actually.
Wait, still looking for him. Yeah, proven or?

Yes.

In civil court. Yeah.

It was his son.

Allegedly.

No, it sounds like you think it was his son. No's a very convincing argument yeah i've read i i also have read that random website jim brown like throw a lady off a fucking balcony that right hey let's we're celebrating running back all right i mean if we're yeah you guys are the one that are saying like you know i think she's doing this because we're the position, right? Yeah, we're doing it.
It's about the position. We're giving of the running backs deserve the spotlight.
Yeah, actually, Aaron Hernandez would qualify. He had that one season where they had they fed him the ball.
Yeah. Okay, here we go.
Jake Billy. Okay.
First pick Emmitt Smith. Okay.
System. Yeah.
Yeah. Great cameo in Little Giants.
Remember when he pulled up in the RV with John Madden? Oh. Not really.
Really? I mean, we're talking about on the field. We made on the field picks.
Yeah. Running backs.
Okay. Yeah.
Imagine how many are. He has an Amigo song about him.
In Emmitt Smith's system for that offense line. Yeah.
Shout out to Daryl Johnson. He was the real running back there.
Yep. Migos.
Okay. Next pick.
Ladanian Tomlinson. Okay.
Good pick. Good picks.
Good pick. He was electric.
Good pick. Good pick.
See, we can all be positive uh all right our next pick most exciting running back i think in my lifetime to watch marshawn lynch okay one one time super bowl champ thankfully not too just the highlights i mean we have barry sanders marshawn lynch highlights like are two of the top five running back highlights of all time okay fact of fiction good pick yeah yeah good pick uh pft we have so many that we have to pick from okay so 12 would be a good one yes i'd agree i'd agree I'd agree. I, you guys hate this.
I think we could go 12 or 12, 15 or 24 or 24. Why did you make a list that long? Because they're trying to make it seem like they had so many.
We have 25. 26, actually.
26. My mom had a big critique of this part.
Oh, she did? Oh, let me hear. From another loser.
Let me hear. Didn't like the numbers.
Didn't like the numbers. Sorry.
Mother of a loser. She's not a loser.
Big difference. All right.
You know what? I say we just go with 12 right now. Yeah.
Well, we have two picks, so we have to plan that out. We have to plan out on second move.
But yes, go with 12. Adrian Peterson.
Yes. Adrian Peterson played for forever.
Forever. It wouldn't surprise me if Adrian Peterson came back and played again next year.
Yeah. He's always kind of sniffing around.
Had one of the most electric seasons I've ever seen after he tours ACL. Also a great college career, however brief it was.
Just awesome running back.

Yes.

Officially retired?

I think he's officially retired.

I think he was on the Colts for a minute last year. Someone random.

All right.

PFT, I'll go with the last pick here.

I think what we're doing is we're basically bridging every single age gap.

We're getting the best running back from all different decades.

We'll go with the King Derrick Henry for our last pick.

Just the best to watch.

Tractor Cito.

Just fucking.

I saw a highlight the other day.

Remember that 99 yard run he had against the Jaguars?

That fucking ruled.

He is an ode to the running back.

He's like kind of the torch bearer for all the running backs before him and the respect of the position, Derek Henry. Yeah, and it's just so much fun to watch him stiff-arm people.
Yes, facts. I like this.
We have all different – you know, I was going to go maybe old school again, but let's get one recurrent guy. That's good.
Yeah, we're also going to bridge the gap here, you know, from reality into you know the big screen oh and we're going to take tim riggins fuck oh okay cool great so you had only we had we were you could only think of three real running backs no i just thinking of the greatest running backs of all time the people that i love to watch play the game and tim riggins despite you know his quarterback getting paralyzed he still was out carried his carried his team to victory was banging all the hottest girls leader just a legendary legendary running back texas forever who says that tim riggins okay he's not even the best Riggins. Yeah.
Who is?

John.

He's a running back?

Running behind the Hawks, yeah.

He's a running back.

Won a Super Bowl.

Sounds like you should have picked him.

Where was he on your list?

He was – yeah, he was there.

What number?

The numbers don't correlate to –

Well, I'm just kidding.

11.

He was 11.

You never even debated picking him, so – No, we said it. We said 11.
No, you didn't. Okay, last one.
So we were 50-50 between taking Tim Riggins or a real running back. Again, it's sad that you guys can only think of three real running backs.
No! No! No! I heard it. I heard it.
I think your hand's not the best. No, he said Christian McCaffrey.
Billy, what the heck are you doing? Stop grabbing the microphone. He said Christian McCaffrey.
You're the worst. You're just punting on.
We had such a good thing going. We won five in a row and you just punted on this because you won a free trip to Chicago.
Christian McCaffrey's a good pick. Marshall is a better pick.
The fact that he went undrafted, I can already see it. What got left off the list? Everyone's going to say that.
Yeah, yeah. I'm surprised you didn't take Herschel Walker, PFT.
Yeah, Herschel Walker, artist guy. All right, so what got left off the ton? I'm banning Billy from announcing picks.
Oh, you can't do that? You have the authority to do that? Yeah, what are you talking about all over again i would never ban pft and well he would never ban me same okay well we have some issues right now because he's taking over he's taking over it was a good pick really it wasn't marshall we went to review the tape did you get all the mcafree all the way out like yeah is there an appeal process i heard it we all heard it christian mcafree was said it was said good pick billy how are we how are we going to compete against derrick henry like marshall faulk is a really good running back so it's very good and you couldn't say his name properly wait what do you mean he could on one one Wait, but he actually couldn't say his name or he just forgot his name? He just forgot that we agreed to say Barry Sanders. Got it, got it.
He always gets those two names confused. We were on an unreal hot streak and he just punted on this one.
No, I don't think so. We'll see.
I mean, I hope I'm wrong. Niners fans will get us.
Okay. Shout out Niners fans.
At 8 in the morning. Yes.
7 in the morning. 9 a.m.
9 a.m. 9 a.m.
Yeah. All right.
Ones we miss a ton, obviously. Marshall Falk.
Marshall Falk. Frank Gore.
Gale Sayers. The bus.
Oh, yeah. That was going to be.
I don't know. That one, I'll wear it.
Me and Max were talking about it. I think if we lose because of Tim Riggins, that was the mistake.
A bus and a bus. I mean, if you were to take the best stat lines from any one game of all time in NFL history, the game where Jerome Bettis had like three touchdowns for I think it was four yards rushing on three attempts.
That is my favorite stat line ever. Yes.
The two that I wonder, I mean, I'm assuming they're on your list. You guys had a massive list that Max talked me out of that.
I wanted to pick where Jamal Lewis and priest homes. Priest homes.
I did not say priest. I loved priest homes.
Jamal Lewis. I didn't, I didn't love, I didn't love that.
I didn't, I liked Jamal Lewis, but I but I think he was kind of a – Did he have the greatest season of all time before Adrian Peters? He had 2,000 yards, yeah. Priest Holmes also just has a great name.
Priest Holmes is a sick name. Priest Holmes is awesome.
Chris Johnson gets lost in the shuffle. He was electric.
Corey Dillon. Mike Allstott.
Mike Allstott. Curtis Martin.
We almost took that just to fuck the pft but we're not we're playing our game not worrying about you guys you guys usually i mean you guys last you picked this year and not being able to we got like yeah eight percent on that pissing your pants one of my favorite running backs just to watch and probably doesn't even fall into this category legerid blunt yeah yep can win a Super Bowl with him. Reggie Bush should be honorable mention just because his college career was so much fun to watch.
I said that, too. Yeah.
Ricky Williams. Yep.
Kind of the same thing. His college career combined with everything that he did in the NFL.
Just crazy shit from day one. He hired Master P to be his agent.
Signed the worst contract ever. Left to go smoke weed in Australia for like three years, then came back and dominated.
Yeah. Arian Foster.
Arian Foster. We had him.
David Montgomery for the run. Who can forget? Who can forget? We'll always have to run.
I mean, if you think of legendary runs, if we did a Mount Rushmore with legendary runs, that's number one. We need to put the run in the YouTube.
The Quigs are on. Oh, yeah, the highlights.
That's my favorite. That's my favorite run.
Sean Alexander was on our list, but I don't really like Sean Alexander that much. No.
Another system guy. Yeah.
I wasn't a huge sean alexander fan as well although he did put up massive massive numbers um good good good list though guys eric dickerson yeah oh yeah dickerson was a mess yeah danny motion of the running back yeah we need the running when they need it yeah the running backs need need a little more shine and we gave it to them we should have that we should do about well and i would be mean to do mount rushmore like your least favorite running backs i think i would put i would put sean alexander on that list yeah cedric benson i think passed away so we can't do that i'd have oj on my list of of least favorite just for the record yeah me too i guess i'm i'm opposed this wasn't a mount rushmore about favorite running backs. Yeah.
It was just about the best. But I'm saying we could do, if we did a favor of Matt Forte, he gets lost to the shuffle, too.
Shade. Recurring Gus.
Shade. LeSean McCoy.
LeSean McCoy. He's my favorite.
One of my favorite football players. Le'Veon Bell, another one.
Cordero Patterson. What about our guy, Playoff Lenny? Yeah.
You want to talk about pass blocking? Clinton Portis. Yeah.
Darren Sproles is a favorite too Willis McGee Darren Sproles is a good pick a little water bug out there yeah he's the best Morris Jones Drew no nobody dislikes Darren Sproles yeah Maurice Jones Drew that's a good one oh wait we did do we say Frank Gore yeah he was one of the first ones yeah from you yeah frank gore uh okay good mount

rushmore let's get to uh huge balls enormous balls flapping everywhere great balls great ball great set of balls on that guy uh okay let's get to uh kirk and riggs talk a little more open championship some very funny moments with those guys noble is known forin-class, award-winning footwear with options across training and lifestyle. No Bull has options for everyone exclusively for Barstool listeners.
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They are our colleagues. They have the greatest golf gambling show that is yet to be titled.

It is Kirk Minahan and our guy Riggs from 4Play.

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So, the Open Championship.

Let's get into it.

Let's talk some golf.

Let's get some bets.

I'll start with you, Riggs.

Give us big picture. Hoy Lake, Royal Liverpool.
I don't know which one to call it. How is this course rank overall in terms of Open Championship courses? This one's a little bit of a weird one in that they didn't host the Open here for 39 years.
I think from late 60s till 2006. Then Tiger came in.
It was all burned out. Didn't use the driver.
Then Rory won in 2014, but they changed it. In order to do that, they changed it a lot, which the old course, all these old British Open Rota courses are known for pretty much they just moved the teebacks, and the courses have been the same for like 500 years where there's a new hole.
The 17th hole is like a brand new hole that kind of goes against everything with the Open Championship. So it's a little weird.
It's going to be very different than 06 where it was burned out. It's green.
Me and Kirk were talking. It's very green, which they don't like over there.
It's going to be soft. So it's going to play a little different than a normal British Open.
Okay. And you said it's Royal Liverpool.
Do we have any scousers? is this rory's home track when it comes to england is or is he does he have other courses that he prefers over there well um i think the closest guy is probably fleetwood in terms of having a home home game maybe a fleetwood or a maddie fitz situation um rory i think the jack nicholas quote was that the further south you go in the british open the shittier the golf courses get so when you top when you start like high up in in scotland and then you go lower and lower to lower england they get shittier and shittier uh so this one would be kind of like what is a little bit more north in england i think but still relatively shitty compared to the rest so um but yeah the hoy lake thing i think it's the town is hoy lake it's 20 minutes or so from liverpool so that's why we get the mix up i don't know what to call it either okay so kirk you are a golf historian i love just sitting and talking golf and hearing you rattle off different moments and things that happen so tell me where the open championship ranks on your list of majors and golf events and then also favorite favorite Open Championship memory or moment? I'd go Masters still first. I'd go American Century second.
I have Steph Curry this week to finish top 10. That's plus one pick right there because I'm going with my guy Gronk.
He's probably one of the three best players in the world right now. I mean, obviously, the best parts of the Open Championship are, I don't think this is going to is going to happen this week rigsy i don't know if you've been looking either but i don't think we're gonna get the shit kicked out of us like a disaster weather situation um you know we're like 76 is a good score obviously van de veld is like the great moment in the history of the open championship good or bad like that you know three shot lead pisses it away um but you know it's a it's a solid second for me when it's good i don't know about this week i feel like this could be one of these weeks where it's saturday afternoon like the sun's out in 15 under is leaving and you're thinking well this doesn't really feel like an open championship at all it feels like a shootout feels kind of like last week before the weather got bad uh the scottish open so a good brit like tied second with the Ryder Cup Ryder Cup not Ryder Cup Ryder Cup uh for me Ryder Cup right now right turn yes yes yes um but I would say Masters first no matter what good British Open though is a really solid but it's been a while rig since we've had one where like hats are blowing off and like

caddies are falling down and peter arliss who's now dead is like saying something that makes no sense and like the cameras have no idea what's going i miss those days of complete we haven't had one of those i don't think in a long time no we haven't and to you know to kind of speak to that point going in i think everybody on this show likes to root for the golf course and i got my eye on a bet that is uh the the low score of the tournament being way lower than we would ever like so i think that that's sort of the mo going into this which sucks hopefully we're wrong there's been plenty of stories where guys have had to borrow back in the day they had to borrow rain jackets or people in the gallery because their forecast is it's going to be fine and then it's complete dog shit and they get dominated which we root for so that could always happen but it looks like it's going to be soft a little bit of wind nothing too crazy and like kirk said i the last thing we want is somebody goes out in an early round and the wind's not up that yet and it's green when it's supposed to be brown and they're like putting for a 59 in the british open which could happen this week it feels yeah i i hate it when that happens like i want want my British Open courses to look like they were World War II battlefields. I want there to be bunkers that look like they made them out of hand grenades that they just threw into the middle of the fairway.
Right. Like that deep shit.
And last year at St. Andrews, we had the burns.
Right. You had to watch out for the burns.
What's going on with this course? What's one feature of this course that makes it unique and maybe a little bit challenging, something that we can root for even on a day where maybe somebody does go out there and shoot like a 62? Well, I think we like to play a lot of like British Open bingo card type stuff with the golf announcers in any of the tournaments. They kind of just play the hits.
They have like five terms. This one's going to be the internal OB in the wall.
There's a couple holes where there's like a wall and then out of bounds is right there.

And boy, oh boy, when they get hung up and they don't know what to talk about, they're just going to hammer this wall and turn a lot of bounds with people that are not big golf fans. What the fuck does that mean? So I think you're going to get a lot of wall chatter this week.
Okay. Yeah.
What is internal out of bounds? it's essentially ob typically is designated by a part of the property that like the course or the club doesn't own. It's like out of it's like literally off property.
What happens is the way that you could with new age technology, a lot of guys hit the ball a lot farther. They might just take a line, for example, if like the ninth hole and the and the tenth hole run parallel and there's a dog dog leg right they might just hit it down the ninth hole if they're playing the tenth hole because it's a way better angle so they designate that the internal part of the property is actually out of bounds which most people think is really dumb it's pft it looks like it looks like the first base line is going up the 18th uh fairway where there's like i don't know probably what 40 feet in between the out of bounds line and actually where the patrons are sitting.
So it's going to be weird. Like you could hit a shot that looks like it's in bounds and it's just out of bounds.
So they're basically playing baseball. I love the term internal out of bounds.
Adam 22 should learn that term. Kirk, I was watching, this is, this is very sad of me but i i do love the golf majors and especially you know in the middle of july when there's not a lot to talk about uh have you watched any videos about the 17th hole because i'm calling this the hole of the tournament uh i watched them how they remade it and everything yeah it looks like right yep yeah the green looks like it's going to be shooting on top of a spoon so So what's your favorite hole on this entire course? I'm actually with you because I watched something on YouTube about this as well.
So he redesigned its playing rigs like 140, like 138. But I think for that hole to be great, we need a little bit of wind, I think.
And now it's a super short landing spot. So I think it's one of those ones where if a guy's up by one or up by two heading into 17, then this can be really interesting.
So, yeah, I would say what's weird about this course is one of these courses where the holes are different in the major championship than they actually are if you go and play it. So I think like one is actually three and three is actually ten.
They made ten a par four now as well. It used be a par five.
So it's a, it's a complete mess. But I actually am with you, Dan.
I think 17 is probably the most interesting television hole on the course. It's not, it's not the course that has like four or five holes that jump out at you either.
Yeah. No, yeah, no, I was just thinking that too.
It's, it's like we're in the middle for the United States. I've ranked the open courses.
Like, you know, I was doing it the other day. It's like, I would say it's not my top five.
No way. You have to say for me, St.
Andrews still is number one by far. I'm a Carnoustie guy.
Carnoustie is when you get the shit kicked out of you. That's like a solid two for me.
I don't like this cracks the top five, I don't think. But you've had great winners, though.
Look at the last two winners, two winners, Rory and Tiger. So there's something for that.
Yeah. A little Bobby Jones won here.
So there's a lot of big names that have won here. But it is weird.
It's like until I took a flyover yesterday, I didn't really remember any of the holes. The only hole I remembered was the 18th hole where it's a hard dog lake, right? If you're going to go for the par five, you have to pretty much hit it over the out of bounds the entire time.
I think the third hole, that's going to be the first one where you get hit with the wall chatter so i think that's going to be a really cool hole where the guys kind of have to fly it over the edge of the wall which is ob if they push it right it could obviously not cover the wall and bob so i think that one will get a lot of talk but i think another key phrase the whole week is going to be uh for the members they're going to say that a lot like Like, oh, this plays as a par 5 for the members. This actually ranks as the 17th hole for the members.
They're going to say that all the time. What does that mean? Sorry, I love that Riggs acts like he's mocking that, but if you saw him in North Carolina, he is one of those guys more than anybody he's ever.
We were all there. Hey, this is for the members.
We were all there. Everybody went up to him.
Everybody looked exactly like Mike Pence. And he went up and shook his hand.
Terrible inside golf jokes. And he fucking lapped it up like he wouldn't believe.
And now he's talking the very thing that he is 90% of the time. Yeah.
I did see Riggs hugging like four different 60-year-old men over the course of the weekend. Yeah.
It's every single guy. Yeah.
Every single guy in Pinehurst is essentially the actor from like a Fidelity commercial when he's sitting at the – Right. In his kitchen, sun-drenched kitchen, drinking OJ, looking at a paper, being like, how are we going to retire, honey? That's just Riggs.
That's all his best friends at Pinehurst. And Riggs is like, Riggs has like a terrible nickname.
He's like, hey, Sergeant, you still have trouble on 11? What is this? What's going on? So, yeah, Riggs, you will do that for the U.S. Open next year.
You will be like for the members because you live on Pinehurst. I would take that information i just gave to you guys and made fun of those guys like tonight at the bar i'll be like when they show that hole on tv i'm gonna be hey by the way this is this hole for the members i mean you do have the best life of anyone ever rigs i i decided that after we went to pinehurst i was like the foreplay i have the greatest job in the world the foreplay guys have figured out how to have the greatest job in the world.
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, so you guys have done well gambling.
It is a gambling show that you do. You put it on YouTube, on the Barstool Sportsbook YouTube every single Wednesday before.
They're gambling on every single one, which is, there's nothing better than golf gambling when you have a top 10, a top 5, even a winner, and crazy odds. So should we get into it? Do you guys, however you want to start, what picks you like? It could be top 20, it could be top 10.
Let's start with that. Let's start top 20, make the cut, and then we'll get to our winners.
Riggs, you always go first, so go ahead. I got two top 10s for you since we're going to start here and and barcel sportsbook app lovely app uh highly recommend go download it go check out a bunch of the specials they got a whole tab for the open which is fun to scroll through they got round prop specials the whole deal you can't really get everywhere so by the way the odds too riggs man just a quick interrupt we updated the app odds are very good let's just say that they are very competitive, market competitive, very, very good odds, so you're going to see some really nice, juicy odds out there.
So, I got two top tens I'm taking. I got Tyrell Hatton, English fella.
He has finished four of his last seven starts. He's finished inside the top six.
He had a great week last week, which was their first Lynx golf real experience

at the Renaissance of the year.

He finished tied for sixth.

He's plus 225.

So I've got Tyrell Hatton, top 10.

And I also got Tommy Fleetwood, another English fella.

He's plus 200.

He finished tied for sixth last week as well.

And his last four starts, he's second, T5, T6.

He did have a missed cut in there, but I think he was under par.

It was just one of those where he had to shoot a million under. So those my two top tens.
I got Fleetwood at hat. These odds aren't great.
I usually don't take a minus. I'm going to take one here.
It's minus 650. Dan Rapport's going to delete one of his tweets during the Open Championship.
I have that. That's on the sports book.
On the sports book. Can I parlay that with a fake quote? Yeah, you can also parlay that with one of the golf writers being upset that Nick Fowler's back in the boob.
Did you see this, Rick's top 20 finish after round one, inside the top 20 after round one? He's in the morning. Scotty Scheffler is plus

money plus 120 for that.

Whoa. Whoa.

Wait, what? Yeah. Top

20 finish round one plus

120.

Scotty has been killing it.

He is totally separated from

Rom. I know it was Scotty and Rom, but Rom

has kind of not been heard from since the Masters.

Scheffler hasn't won much

lately, but his numbers, if you look at

his T degree numbers are like

Thank you. I know it was Scotty and Rom, but Rom has kind of not been heard from since the Masters.
Right. And he never – Shuffler hasn't won much lately, but his numbers, if you look at it, his T-degree numbers are like the best since Tiger in 2000.
He can't putt. Yeah, that's the thing, right? Like he's been changing – he changed his putter up.
Right. But in the Open Championship, it's kind of a neutralizer.
It's actually a good – I think it's going to be a really good week for him. I'm not picking him to win, but I think he's going to have a great week.
I love him. Top 20 finish round one, Scotty Scheffler.
So that's my first one. Go ahead, Rick.
Okay. And I love Fleetwood, by the way.
I'm with you with Fleetwood in the top 10. If I had to pick somebody to win, which I generally don't do, I'll do it since I'm here, I would pick Fleetwood to win this week.
I think things are setting up really well in Fleetwood. Yeah, you're going to notice we do this a lot on the Unnamed Golf Show.
I'm taking that Scotty bet with you as well. Look, Scotty has seven consecutive top five finishes.
Great. So the fact that he would be outside the top 20 after the round would be shocking.
So I like that you got him at plus money. I teased this earlier.
I'm going to go the low round of the tournament. So there's a nice little tab on the Barstool Sportsbook that's got a couple different options for this.
You could either bet it's going to be like 65 or higher. You could bet it's going to be exactly 64 or it's going to be 63 or lower.
Par 71. I think we're going to get one of those mornings or something where, like Kirk mentioned, the sun's out, yet it's still soft and green.
There's no wind. Someone's going to go incredibly low.
So I've got it at, I believe, plus 135. The low round of the tournament is 63 or better.
Ooh, okay. Okay, I like that a lot.
Now, you guys are certified Brooks Koepka haters, correct? Are they fucking with Brooks by putting him with Cantlay? Are they trying to get under his skin? A little bit. I think that's definitely going to hurt him.
I will say that I'm going to wait. When we get to our winners, you know, I'm betting with my – not with my heart, but my brain here.
I think he's got – I like Brooks this week. I just saw his pressure.
I'm sure you guys liked – I'm sure you watched his pressure this week. I like Brooks a lot this week.
And if you look at the odds in terms of winning, I feel like whenever we go into these majors, he's right there with the top three or four guys that are always favorite, except he's whatever, 18 to one. And you've got Rory who hasn't won a major in nine years, who I think is plus 650.
So I kind of like him a lot this week. The good news about Brooks not winning Blake of the Year is he would have been hungover and gone on a bender for another week.
And then he would be messed up going to this tournament like he was going to the U.S. Open.
So I think it's good. I think it's good that he did not win Blake of the Year.
But I'm in on Blake. I like Blake.
I like Fleetwood, too, this week. And I'm going to bet Rory.
You almost have to bet Rory because it's like he's due. He's got to win at some point.
In fact, we said on the show that if he doesn't win in a 10-year span, he goes back to never having won a major. My argument would be you take one away for every year after 10, but that's fine.
I don't hate that. After last week, at some point, he's going to win one of these.
He's going to stumble. Let me give you one other pick, Riggs.
I have Ryan Fox. 300 top 20.
I've made money out of Ryan Fox this year. I know.
I got bold. I got bold, but he played well last week.
He's going to be, you know, and he bombs it. And this course is almost 7,400 yards.
It's going to be wet. Great course for a bomber.
I love Ryan Fox. Love, love, love.
I told you I like him. So I like him top 40, but it's only plus 120.
We just start to get really tough when you get inside the top 20. But I got one, Kirk, I think you're going to love.

I got the best finish for a lefty.

Oh, I've got Harmon plus 170.

The top left-handed players, there's three fellas on here.

Robbie Mack, who just had a great finish.

She got her sky last week.

He's plus 125.

Brian Harmon's plus 170.

Phil Mickelson's plus 275.

I don't think it's us think that Phil's going to have a great. He had the second place at the Masters.
None of that. He's played horrific.
But if you look at Brian Harmon, the little lefty fella, he's gone US Open T43. And then he was T2, T9, T12.
Those are his last four finishes. I know Bobby Mack was the big, everybody was going nuts on him last week, but Brian Hartman is kind of a proven steady Eddie out there, so I got him low lefty plus 170.
I like it. I like it.
So let's do winners because I don't want to completely take all your guys' picks away from your YouTube show. Everyone should go watch on the Barstool Sportsbook you'll have more picks tomorrow on wednesday when it airs uh but let's go winners and tell me first you you both can chime in uh like what is the profile of a winner winning golf uh golfer for this course like what what are the things that you're looking for that they should have that you know you know sometimes you have golf courses where it's like hey you need great iron play or you need to drive it long what exactly are we looking for for this particular golf course i think it's a bomber's course like i said i think it's a place super long and it's really good iron play i think it's for guys like dustin johnson to be good um and and one of the two guys who i think if i had to pick two guys to win i'm gonna pick flea wood uh but if if I was to pick somebody else, it would be Victor Hovland.
I'm going to pick Fleetwood this week. He's playing great.
His course matches up perfectly for him. And he's been knocking on the door.
I like it. It doesn't make any sense, but I don't like the Rory one last week.
That gives me bad vibes back to back. I don't think he's in with two weeks in a row.
I kind of wish he had lost. I might have picked him.
So I'm going to take Fleetwood because I think he matches up. And so does Hovland.

But Fleetwood, for me, matches up really well. And Sheffler just makes

no putts. So at some point, he has to

make a putt. But I'm picking Fleetwood this week.

I think you're going to see a bunch of

stars in the top 10, which is going to be good.

See,

I think in terms of seeing a bunch

of stars in the top 10, I completely

agree with that. And like I kind of mentioned, touched on earlier,

when I go through and look at all the stars,

it's Rory plus 750, Scotty plus 750,

John Rahm plus 1,200, Brooks Koepka plus 1,800.

I don't know that any of those names, I feel like,

are more likely to win than Brooks Koepka.

He's got a second and a first in two of the three majors thus far.

So if you're going to give me those odds versus those other guys,

I like Brooks' chances as much as anybody else. So I'm taking Brooks' cup because, like I said, I watched his presser.
He seemed incredibly confident. They're asking him about, oh, you like your Ryder Cup chances? You were playing a practice round yesterday with Zach Johnson.
How'd that come to be? And he just gave a great, like, well, I walked onto the tee. I didn't have a tee time, and Zach Johnson was there, so we played golf together.
So I just like that he's got that kind of Brooks major I'm here to win attitude so I like it so he made us a bunch of money this year he made us a bunch of money this year you're a fantastic guest those are just facts off air and on there it's just like I want more majors than Jack yeah he's great I love it. I don't know what to tell you.

He might win more majors than Jack.

Yeah, he's great.

Oh, I love it.

He loves the 100.

His wife takes a picture on Instagram.

This is great.

I love this shit.

I don't want Boris Kepke winning the Open champion.

That's demeaning to the Open.

I don't want him winning the Open.

He can win the Open. Demeaning to the Open.

I like that.

Oh, I like that.

I do like that take.

You can Tommy Flea with the cardigan. He can hold it up.
Brooks Koepka is going to be like, oh, is this like how long does the tournament go on? Like 10 years? Fuck off. I need a guy who respects the game.
The thing about Koepka is he cares about as much as he does about the live tournament in Oklahoma, which is okay. No, no.
Brooks does care about the majors. You could tell after he won the last one.
He started listing off all the golfers that have won five and what it would mean to him to get to 10. He cares more than he lets on sometimes.
But, yeah, I do. I understand what you're saying, Kirk.
Demeaning to the open. I like it.
It's a great game. That's a great storyline.
If the guy wins that and it's demeaning to the open, that's fantastic. I'll put it this way.
If you're so-called golf gods that live in a cloud above Scotland somewhere, if they're real, they will not let Brooks Koepka win an Open championship. I've said it all along.
I don't think Bobby Jones would allow Brooks Koepka to win the Masters. I actually believe that.
I think he's like, nope, this is not happening. It's like a PTA, who cares?

But you're right.

I think you're right about that. It's driven me insane beyond belief that Brooks Koepka just isn't an absolute golf nerd like the rest of us.
And like Kirk just said, that all the golf nerdy, dweeby things that we obsess over, he just doesn't seem to give a flying fuck about. but he has proven that that makes him in majors somehow impervious to the other bullshit that

people seem to fall by the wayside too so yeah i can't not i you know i can't not pick him he's 1800 i got another question for you guys because we haven't talked about him at all um can we just say something nice about max homo yeah i mean he's the thing i like about max is he appreciates his time his family he takes weekends off at major championships. He's able to hang out with his kids and his wife on Saturdays and Sundays, which I appreciate.
I like Max, but at some point he's got to do something. I'm rooting for him like everybody else.
I like Max. I want him to do well.
I don't know. I think he's almost like the anti-Brooks.
I think he thinks about this stuff so much that it's now wretched in his brain. One day, one of these days, he'll make the cut, and he'll shoot like 64, 65 on Saturday.
Bam, be right in and sneak away. I actually think he will win a major championship.
And by the way, let me say on the record, the gentleman of the Open Championship, presented by Her Majesty the Queen, now actually His Majesty the King, is completely fine with Max Holm of winning the Open Championship. We are fine with that.
We sign off. Okay.
Not demeaning. Not demeaning to the Open.
No, I wouldn't be demeaning. I wish he had...
Max is not... It should be Maxwell if he's going to win the Open Championship? Yes, Sir Maxwell.
Yeah. Maxwell Silverhammer, he should be his full name for this.
I sign off on that, guys. I'm fine with that.
I'll say with Max Homa when we played our scramble against him last year, Max Homa was genuinely rooting for Trent, which I like to see the entire time. The fact that we're having a heated match definitely was not rooting for me.
He played well last week. He had a great week last week in shit conditions.
He had a good finish. He's been dog shit in majors forever, which I think, like Kurt said, just adds up in his own brain.
So, unfortunately, I would love to root to root for max i always do i don't know that he's got it in the majors yet okay um okay so this has been great do you have do you have any final thoughts any uh maybe not a bet but a person you're like i'm rooting for this person i want to see them win is it is it rory for both of you guys or as you know kurt you're not a big Rory guy I root for people to lose

so I am rooting

I don't have anything against him

I hate that Rory played this like

you know Jim Caviezel

martyr Passion of the Christ character in the whole

live thing it was like he had the Charlie Brown

walk it's like life's not that difficult

so I kind of now

don't like him anymore so now I'm rooting against him

because if he loses this that's not 10

years since this guy won a major championship

which is wild I'm rooting for

Thank you. So I kind of now don't like him anymore.
So now I'm rooting against him. Because if he loses this, that's not 10 years since this guy won a major championship, which is wild.
I'm rooting for Tommy Fleetwood or Victor Hovland. I am rooting against Roy McIlroy.
I'm actually kind of rooting against Ricky Fowler because everyone likes him again. So now it's like now that everyone's into him, I'm kind of rooting against him.
That's the only reason that you're rooting against Ricky is because everybody during the U.S. Open was like, oh, my God what a great story and you're like fuck this he's too likable now Kirk gets credit he was the first to turn on Michael Block he turned on Michael Block before Michael Block even like hit that hole in one he was like this guy sucks Blocky's gonna be everywhere that's the other thing get ready for Blocky on Instagram.
He's going to be at every bar. He's going to be at those little bars.
He's going to be hanging out. He's going to be doing autograph signings with John Daly at like a strip club, like a mile away from the course.
It's going to be a big blocky week. Big blocky week.
All right, Kirk, or Riggs, finish this off. Who are you rooting for? Not a bet, but who are you rooting for? I'm obviously the guy that just gets all in on the Rory.
I'm a Rory head.

I think it's the best storyline.

I think it probably won't occur like I was.

And then I would hate to see Sungjae pull through this week

because now that Elio has finally distanced himself from rooting for Sungjae,

if he had a good week this week, I'd feel horrific for Mr. Ice.

So, yeah, I can't help but get cut off in the Rory hoopla.

I think I want to be the anti-Kirk in that situation. So if Rory wins, it'd be fucking fantastic.
If you saw the video of this, Rory's kid hates him. Did you see that? Yes.
Who are you? Get away from me. Want to go hang with Tommy Fleetwood? Probably so.
Yeah, Thomas Fleetwood, the second. No, that's what they said.
He wants to go give Tommy a hug. By the way, Riggs, don't worry about Elio because, listen, I've known Elio for a while now.
He is a gambler through and through. He has publicly said he's done with Sungjae.
He is 100% betting Sungjae and not talking about it because you can't have that happen to you. He knows what's at stake if Sungjae wins and he doesn't bet it, so he's just publicly distancing himself.
Then I'm back on Sung Jae. Then I'm back on Sung Jae.
That's all I needed to know. Yes.
Okay. Well, guys, thank you.
Appreciate it. Great talking golf.
Also, make sure that you – I don't know when the Ryder Cup is coming out, but Kirk and Riggs, we're both part of it. Great time down at Pinehurst.
2025, I think, is it for the Bethpage Black. 2025, I think, Bethpage Black.
They're going to release the Writer Cup videos. Oh, okay.
Nice. Ask Max where the Writer Cup video is.
Yeah. Yeah.
Ask Max. He's editing.
I have nothing to do with the Writer Cup editing. Zero to do.
Just tweet him every day and be like, when is it going to be ready? And he'll get on on it so uh all right so everyone check out their on the barstool sportsbook they do have their golf uh podcast or sorry youtube show that is not to be yet to be named but uh always gives out winners so thank you boys we'll talk soon thank you all right guys thanks okay let's wrap up the show great show everyone jimbos Jimbo's. We got like three Jimbo's we're going to do, and then we'll do numbers.

Some long ones.

Hey, fellas. My wife and I

got a great Pyrenees

puppy last week.

Pyrenees.

Pyrenees puppy last week.

I was home alone watching her one day when I needed

to sit down for shit.

Did you say

Great Pyrenees? great pyrenees great pyrenees okay you got it i was home alone watching over her one day when i needed to sit down for a shit when i home went home alone i always just go with the door open i figured it wouldn't take long so i didn't put puppy in her. I got to watch in horror before I could pinch it off.
Her stare directly into my eyes and shit in the hallway 15 feet away. Well, since the deed was done and there was nothing to do, I figured I may as well take my time to finish up.
That was a mistake because I had forgotten I had turned the Roomba on and got to watch it smear fresh puppy shit for a few feet before I could pick it up off the ground. Trying to react quickly to pick it up.
I just pick it up on the bottom where I picked up was also covered in dog shit. So now I'm covered in dog shit.
Oh, that's tough. That is tough.
I mean, that's kind of a cool moment that you got to share with your dog. You guys both shitting at the same time? Yeah.
The potty training a dog sucks. You just go, you got to go, uh, like high value treat.

I remember when I was doing with Stella,

it was just,

I'd get like a shitload of roast beef and that would only take it out on

walks.

And so every time she went to the bathroom outside,

it's like,

boom,

roast beef.

Oh yeah.

I'm dealing with the dog training thing right now.

Your dogs,

you've had your dog for,

I know he's,

he's really well trained,

but he does not fuck with spiral staircases.

So I have to carry a 100-pound dog down the stairs.

Oh, yeah. I saw your treat.
Your treat was funny.

Yeah.

He just won't go down the stairs. We're working on it.

He'll go up the stairs, but I got to post a video.

I had to literally lug this dude down this spiral staircase that I can't even fit down. And it's a problem.

That's classic dogs though.

Like walking over city grates.

Never, never.

No thanks.

They're smart that way.

Yeah.

Because that's one of my biggest fears.

If I'm in New York and you're walking down the sidewalk,

either you have the grate or sometimes you get the cellar for a restaurant

and you get those metal doors.

I'm always terrified I'm going to fall right through.

Dogs are smart.

Yeah. Okay.
Next one. one good one i'm a painter last week at the house we were painting i decided i need to take a large dump so i decided to do my business in a toilet that i did not know at the time was broken everything went down fine but the same cannot be said about the toilet paper long story short the toilet paper would not stop flushing and the toilet paper clogged the toilet flooded the main floor of the house and soaked through the flooring and leaked through the basement ceiling now i sadly need to pay for ceiling repairs because the toilet cannot hold me yeah you just got to leave the job you got to walk off when you're basically working for free yeah to pay for a mistake that happened at work yeah and also everyone in your company knows that you just you ruined the job because you took a shit so big that it ruined the ceiling that that moment when a toilet gets clogged and it's like you know sometimes there'll be clogs where it's like okay just need a plunger not like we're not overflowing here but the second you realize it's an overflowing situation and it won't stop is maybe the most terrifying moment of anyone's life yeah yeah especially if you have to like go to the store and buy a plunger oh if there's no plunger that's such a shameful purchase you gotta throw in some buffer purchases at the grocery store you can't just go to the grocery store and buy one plunger and leave yeah everyone's like oh that guy just, that guy just took a huge shit.
You got to make going. You're moving in.
Yeah. Yeah.
I have brush like two cleaning supplies, toilet brush, pack of cereal. Yeah.
All that stuff. Make it look like a real, real prestigious grocery trip.
Yes. All right.
Then last one, this is from Nebraska. I went to a strip club with my buddies at 3am, had a few too many drinks, tripped on the way to the bathroom, hit my head, had to get taken in an ambulance to get eight stitches, and also got a severe concussion.
Not my best night crying emoji. Oh, having that happen at a strip club is what hurts because you have to say that in the story.
And everyone like damn you got so horny you passed out and hit your head probably get glitter stapled into your head so now it's just gonna be part of you forever yeah i would hope you'd get like a sympathy hand job right what or at least yeah like some some some lap dance free tickets yeah exactly like a free ticket to the buffet they have strip clubs in Nebraska. They have strip clubs everywhere.
I think they have more strip clubs probably in Nebraska. What else are you going to do? Yeah.
You've been to West Virginia strip clubs everywhere. Strip clubs make the world go around.
All right. Good show.
Everyone numbers. Season 18.
I also feel bad for yelling at Billy. No, don't.
I've had some time to think about it no you win as a team we lose as a team no no you banned him on band no no i have the authority to unban my team sounds like billy sounds like jake's your boss i'm just having fun okay we're on we're on good turns well no billy's just having billy did you guys agree to barry sanders yeah go ahead okay i get bo jackson and barry sanders mixed up a little bit sometimes in my own brain because i never saw either of them play barry sanders retired like right before i was born so i get them mixed up okay that's Both Bs. Okay, what are the numbers? I'm going to go.
26. What do you got, PFT? Eight.
I'm going to go 85 for our guy, Harvey. Very sad news.
Harvey, Kentucky Sports Radio caller, passed away. 85 years old.
Great life. Loved having him call in.
Matt Jones just texted me. Very sad.
We are, by the way, for anyone listening, we are going to still host Kentucky Sports Radio this summer. We just had a very weird summer, but we're going to planning on doing it late August.
But RIP Harvey, he was a legend. He was the guy who had the oils and would call in about Kentucky basketball, talking vibes.

Like one of those guys that the minute we got him on the phone every year is like, this is going to be awesome.

One of a kind.

Yeah.

RIP Harvey.

So 85 for Harvey.

Great, great.

85, great long life.

Sad that he didn't get to win another championship.

I did have a future on him on the Kentucky this year.

They were my secret team that I was going to split with Harvey,

but that didn't work out. Okay memes one have you ever gotten this nope 20

hank what'd you guess 26 motherfucker

Hank

let's go

26

the final number

to every motherfucker Hank

let's go

26

the final number

to ever be drawn

in the original

lottery ball machine

a fitting way

alright Jake

tone it down

just a little

it's exciting

okay

tone it down

the final number

tone it down a little

congratulations Hank

congratulations Hank

I'm very happy

I would have picked 26

but Harvey died

so

you know

you should maybe

nominate this to Harvey

give this to him

Thank you. I would have picked 26, but Harvey died.
So, you know, you should maybe nominate this to Harvey. Give this to him.
I'm just happy. Yeah.
No, I'm just kidding. Shout out to Harvey.
Great guy. This one's in your honor.
Did you say congratulations, Harvey? I was saying congratulations to me. This is an honor of Harvey.
Let's go around the room. How many does everyone have now? I got so many.
I lost track. According to the stats guy, I have like five.
Well, some of them I think were Mickey Mouse. But he asked how many I have.
I have five. You claim five? Four.
I claim four, yes. The documentation I have is two for Big Cat.
Well, I don't trust the guy who made a website. i have four interesting include the with the i fucking know but the guy made a website okay okay four jake that was a great call don't let big cap or smurcher don't let billy smurcher just keep being you no you know what jake's being a little bitch right now he's been crazy at billy for for you cracked up who's a great you cracked up chris recaffrey is a great pick i cracked up because you flipped and grabbed the mic from him you're like no all right i'm just happy i won today and not sunday i'm very proud of you can people still come up to you and tell your numbers yeah sometimes not as much and now it's like how many do you have zero because they don't count if you don't fucking say i'm on the podcast now i have two just as many congratulations hank no i have four hey listen new new machines coming so can i say it can i say it zero for everybody zero for everyone love you guys i love you guys i'm feeling the love right now no you can't say that what the fuck i asked you i don't know what you're gonna say oh you can't no hank gets his second lottery ball he thinks he runs the show now i asked you to say it and you said yes love you guys so do i about when hank says it it's not good he doesn't mean it i thought it was billy.
What? When Big Cat, I can't see the ball. I could just see Big Cat.
When Big Cat was like, motherfucker. I thought it was Billy.
Did you do an animal fact? Animal fact. Yeah.
Or fish come to the surface when there's about to be some major terrible event like an earthquake or a volcanic eruption. They live really deep down and just Google what they look like because it's pretty crazy.
i think we'll all just remember this show is the show that we harvey our good friend harvey passed away and also the time that jake freaked out and banned billy from talking about rushmore yeah just not including all the facts but okay what you did i said from submitting pics that's not from talking from saying oh that's way worse from being able to sit to have any opinion is way worse submitting picks for mount rushmore speaking into the mind you said generically speaking oh okay he can speak in mount rushmore he can't say picks yeah but i unbanned him look i know we're over it but usually jake has a solid list up uh when we're about to say you don't mean that. And you didn't have the list, so I forgot.
So it's Jake's.

Liar. Liar.
Liar.

No, the list was not set up, so I was going from the dome. You are a liar.
I click on every... Billy, you're dome.
They don't respect your dome. I click on every pick before you say it and you nod your head.
Billy, they don't respect your dome, bro. And you just went rogue.
Whose fault do you think it is? Jake, Billy, you you're not allowed to answer from the rest of you guys i personally think that it was jake's fault for not having the list up i think it was jake's fault for being a tyrant is this all in the show yeah yeah yeah sure hank whose fault you think it was i think if jake didn't have the list up. it's 100% on Jake.
I had the list up. You guys taking Billy for his word is a true turning of the tables.
You actually didn't have the list up. You didn't have enough, Jake.
And I panicked and I went, Bo Jackson. You can go for another hour.
Yeah, I'm just going to. Okay.
Why didn't you have the list up? Apologize for not having the list up. I had the list up.
You're usually a pretty prepared guy. That's surprising.
Yeah, exactly. Not having the list up for your last pick.
And we get shamed, PFT, for having too good of a list. Yeah, we're on the same page all the time.
Sounds like you guys are not. Definitely didn't come prepared.
Yep. You're right.
So you didn't have the list up? I had the list up. Oh, okay.
A lot of people are saying that Jake has spent most of his time just worrying about calling lacrosse games and not focusing on part of my take. Not having the list up.
And mistakes like not having the list pulled up. The one thing that Jake, at least going for Jake, is that he, no matter as much as you guys are trying to let him, he is definitely the most happy that all the numbers have been picked now.

Oh, yeah.

That was my excitement. That's why I told him to tone it down.

I told him to tone it down.

Well, I was saying shut up because Hank has got another one,

and I knew it was coming after that.

But I have four, and Jake didn't have the list up.

Biting my tongue.

Love you guys.

I have to go to take a basketball game.

That's your animal fact. Animal fact.
Love you guys. I have to go to take a basketball game.
That's your animal fact.

Animal fact.

See ya. I'm coming for your love of dreams, love of dreams.
Thank you. Thank you.
It's a better to say.