Greg Olsen, Mt Rushmore Of Everyday Villains, The Boys Get Their Championship Rings And Lebron Is Not Retiring

Greg Olsen, Mt Rushmore Of Everyday Villains, The Boys Get Their Championship Rings And Lebron Is Not Retiring

July 17, 2023 2h 0m Explicit

Our long national nightmare is over, Lebron James is not going to retire (00:00:00-00:06:33). We catch up on everything we missed this weekend with Rory, Wimbledon, DeAndre Hopkins signing with the Titans, Jets Hard Knocks and we get our Championship Rings for the Waterdogs (00:06:33-00:29:22). Who's back of the week including Dan Snyder and Andy Dalton (00:29:22-00:45:43). Greg Olsen joins the show to talk about his transition to the booth, calling the Super Bowl TEU, his history with Barstool and an update on his son (00:45:43-01:33:58). We then do the Mt Rushmore of Everyday Villains and the lottery ball (01:33:58-01:57:04).


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On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good friend Greg Olson on the show. Haven't had him on for a while in person.
Great to catch up with him. Also, we get a little teary at the end because we're talking about his son great story we have the Mount Rushmore of everyday villains so villains you encounter in your everyday life we're gonna talk about what we missed maybe in the last few days we had takeies congrats everyone listening right now you are an eight-time AWL and we have who's back in the week.
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Boy! Boy! Now we look We'll be right back. And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no We're gonna rock down to electric avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we're gonna rock down to electric avenue It's Pardon My Take Presenting by Barstool Sports Welcome to Pardon My Take Today is Monday, July 17, and PFT, our long national nightmare, is over.
LeBron James is coming back for another season. I was so worried about that.
I was shocked. I was shocked when he made the announcement.
Honestly, I had forgotten that he had teased that he might retire. But he had also been saying for the last three years he was going to come back and play with his son.
That was his ultimate goal. So unless Bronny had a Danny Almonte reverse type situation where he's a lot older than we thought that he was, yeah, this was as much of a given as you can have in the sports world that he's going to come back.
And it was so perfect. So we obviously had the takeies on Friday that were prerecorded, so we missed what happened in the ESPYs.
This was really the only clip I saw. LeBron James getting in front of everyone.
He said, I asked myself, can I play without cheating this game? The day I can't give everything on the floor is the day I retire. Lucky for you guys, the day is not today.
So probably the most public non-retirement, even though we all knew he wasn't going to retire uh speech ever given it's basically the decision too and he i think he planned this out just because he was like you know what i want to make i want to make a splash at the espies this year how can i do that okay i'll tease it i'm gonna retire after getting swept by the denver nuggets and then yeah and in mid july in early july when nobody attention to sports, I'm going to dominate the news cycle. He also just wants everyone to clap for him and be like, thank you so much, Bron.
I'll say this right now. There's been a lot of rumors, a lot of talk.
I'm not retiring. Not today.
Not today. I will not retire today.
As you're listening to this right now, I'm not retiring today. You know who had the best day when he found out that LeBron James was going to come back? Skip Bayless.
Yes. Old Skip had – he put out a great – maybe the creepiest video.
It looked like he was doing some sort of – he looked like a terrorist that had just taken over 737 and was making his demands. But he was like, you know, LeBron James and I were connected.
We both started our professional careers on television the same year. It's like, yeah, you can't tell the story of LeBron James without the story of Skip Bayless.
Yeah, Hank, I saw that look on your face. Skip was like a columnist, and then he became Skip Bayless on TV back in, I guess that would be 2003 when Leon came to the nba so uh skip was very happy at one point he he just shakes it he goes lebron bleeping james man lebron bleeping james he's not retiring you think ernestine films skips videos for him yes skips skips going through it right now yeah he's having he's unwanted he doesn't have a person to debate with and uh it's gotta it's gotta be killing him inside little wayne yeah little wayne it's also very funny that skip bale is like trying to find his new uh co-host which not really a co-host it's more like skip sidekick uh it really has only one rule they have to be pro-LeBron.
Because I was thinking about what would happen

if a guy who was anti-LeBron went and joined Skip?

It would then become like he would have nothing to debate.

It should actually just be somebody that's more anti-LeBron

than Skip Bayless is.

Yeah.

That would blow his mind.

Have Trump?

Dave.

Dave Bordel.

That would be great if Skip was bashing LeBron and Dave was just like, actually, LeBron's an ISIS. Actually, he's a disgusting human being.
Yeah. Perfect.
All right. Other things going on in the sports world.
We had Rory finally win one. The Scottish Open, which I don't think anyone could watch on TV.
Golf just keeps crushing it. They're like, hey, golf's never been hotter.
And ESPN cut off the feed before the 18th hole. Yeah.
ESPN plus. But I was happy for Rory because I think that was like the fourth or fifth time, or no, maybe third or fourth time that he's been leading after 54 holes this year.
And if he didn't do this one, it would have been like, you like you just can't you can't finish the deal but back-to-back birdies 17 18 good for rory good is that the is that the fifth major if you're a british guy it's got to be i mean it is it it's the it's the open is do you also want to win the scottish open when the british open is right the next week like is that it's a tune-up you can make the case it's a tune-up but two to i have a hot take okay lay it on i think he's gonna miss the cut i think everything because the last the last time they played here was the last time he won a major he's been playing good golf he won this weekend everyone it's it's it's almost it's almost too much of a storybook ending and i think he's just gonna come out and blow up i mean last year was supposed to be the storybook ending where he blew up just on the back nine. Just couldn't make a putt.
That's quite a take, Hank. It's a hot take.
All the players play in quilts. Yes.
I think you're looking for kilts. Okay.
Offline, before we started recording, Hank was talking about golfing overseas and he referred to kilts.

He thought that there were quilts, that everybody wore quilts.

It's an all-time Thailand moment.

I wish they were recording.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So yeah, that happened.

DeAndre Hopkins is on the Titans.

Yeah.

What was his list of reasons why he wanted to join your team?

He wanted like an established quarterback.

It was established quarterback, good defense, consistent GM, which I think they just

Thank you. reasons why he wanted to join a team he wanted like an established quarterback it was established quarterback good defense uh consistent gm which i think they just fired theirs didn't they this is new gm that they have new gm um yeah that that deandre hopkins like i still think he's good he's not deandre hopkins best receiver in the league good which he was you know five years ago or four.
But way to take the air out of it. Like if he had been added to a Chiefs and Eagles, like one of these Niners, like one of these teams that's competing for Super Bowl.
He's going to the Titans. Everyone's like, OK, cool.
Like he'll be good. I guess it's good for the Titans.
But I feel like the Titans are in a weird transition period right now. Not we're competing for a Super Bowl right this second.
I this is an ultimate ricochet shot at the entire patriots organization too when those are his three criteria and he's like i want to play for a good quarterback and he picks ryan tannahill over mac jones sounds like he listened to our show where we did the quarterback tears ranking yeah yeah hank yeah i'm excited for will i'm happy for him yeah it is good for will you have. You have to feel a little bit snubbed, right? Don't you, Hank? Like the fact that he visited your organization, it was on his list of, I think, ultimately two teams that he was going to play for that were in a bidding war, and he chose the Titans.
I mean, Belichick's definitely pissed off at Vrabel for this one. Yeah, probably a little bit.
I feel like the Patriots never, I mean, besides Randy Moss, but I feel like the patriots never really get those big name signings i was not i was obviously hopeful but i was not like surprised he didn't sign with us yeah it was just it's not the patriot way it did feel like everyone was like where's deandre hopkins gonna go and now that he went to the titans again the titans this is actually where the titans love to be is everyone's doubting them because that means they'll probably win the AFC South and they'll probably win like 11 or 12 games because that's how the Titans always roll.

But didn't it feel like it was an announcement we were all waiting for

because we assumed he was going to go to a team

that was maybe one of the final four teams last year, a Bills,

like I said, the Diners, the Chiefs, and the Titans are like, okay, cool. No state income tax.
Yeah, I guess good for him. It became a financial decision.
He's getting like 12 mil guaranteed next year, and he's got escalators that can kick it up to 15 million. So he's going to make good money.
But if I was toAndre Hopkins, I would want very badly to finish my career

with a good quarterback because he's played with some trash quarterbacks

outside of Deshaun Watson for a couple years.

He's played with maybe out of all the best wide receivers that you can name

in the history of I guess the last like 15 years,

he might be the best wide receiver that's had the worst run of quarterbacks

besides maybe Andre Johnson, who was also part of that Texans carousel of sadness. Yes.
Yeah, it's true. And it's I mean, money is always I don't know what everyone else was offering him, but it's nice to say I want to go compete for a ring.
But if the Titans offered him 12 and everyone else was offering him five, seven million dollars is probably nice, too. makes a lot of difference.
I was hoping for the bills. I really wanted him on the bills.
I know. I know.
Okay. Other things.
We got our rings. Do you want to give them to us? Yes, we have the rings.
The water dogs won the championship last year, and I went to the ring giving ceremony, and I have them for you. Yeah.
And how did it go you want it also known as a wedding yeah do we want to do any highlights from it from the ring giving ceremony it was awesome water dogs won uh this one's yours okay jake was on the call look at this jake killed it dude this is actually a sick ring dude now those are really expensive okay can you show me i i want to see my ring can you just hold it up actually kind of fits because we told when paul rabel asked for a ring size i didn't know and i just told him like i don't know average dude yeah regular is the size that we gave him oh that's awesome bill that's such a sweet ring where's hanks oh do you have hanks do we not have hanks hanks is coming in the mail how much do we know how many diamonds are in this so I could resell it? I had no idea. And they look expensive.
They feel expensive. So I've been sweating my balls off trying to make sure I get them here right now.
Okay. I might get it appraised and just for curiosity's sake.
And then. Dude, they're big time.
Yeah, these are big time. I want to punch somebody in the face while i wear it and just leave the impression on them like an ace matura pft we got to go to a water dogs game and show up with them and just be like what are you talking about i actually when i saw when i saw the rings i thought to myself i might just wear that around all the time yeah it's that cool of a ring yeah we we have rings now and then can you take it off your weird fingers there were some my...
My fingers? Take it off. Yeah, I don't know where those hands have been.
Take it off. I'm warm.
Did you chug beers? At the ceremony? Yeah. Maybe.
Yeah, how'd you do? Very well. Yeah? Dukes is witness.
He is? Dukes is... Dude, Fairfield is the best venue for lacrosse.
I just have to say. Those are people who love lacrosse, and it's an amazing venue.
I feel like, though, if we sent you anywhere where you got championship rings and free beer, you'd be like, dude, fucking Baghdad is the best place to watch lacrosse. It's so sick.
No, but Fairfield County is a lacrosse hotbed. Okay.
It is yeah Connecticut does lacrosse well yeah Billy what was the reaction of the team like when when they all got their championship rings they're like oh and also Billy football yeah no it was a big imposter syndrome when you're walking in line and you guys are like who the fuck is this guy right it's not really imposter syndrome that is actually just being the last person yeah it's just not even your ring yeah the last person to get his ring yeah and finally representing the owners i really football i did hear some criticism online that were terrible owners for not being there for ring night but i have to just push back and say were we getting rings for winning a championship the team that we own that seems pretty good right yeah well our our favorite ring i don't want to speak for you pft but i think we're aligned as an ownership group our favorite ring is the next one yeah and also we're hands-off owners right and we're especially hands-off the rings we don't need to be there to take the spectacle away from the players it's not the nba where they hand the they hand the championship trophy to stan cranky first and then he just whispers sweet nothings in the sideline reporter's ears. We don't need that spotlight on us.
We're behind the scenes, guys. Yeah, I'm so hands-off.
We establish culture. That's what we do.
I'm so hands-off as an owner that I'm going to sell my ring. That's how hands-off I am.
I'm so hands-off that I can definitely name at least two players on the team. Dylan.
dylan and then um dylan's the goalie dylan ward dylan ward i didn't know if it was his last or first house and then uh copeland yeah andy copeland andy copeland is a g yeah he is i was uh we almost fired him no no but like i was standing next to him and i was like this guy probably thinks i I'm a fucking clown. And he was a G.
He was chill.

Yeah.

It was sick.

Yeah, no, he definitely did.

He definitely thought you were a clown.

You're our clown.

Fuck it.

Yeah.

Yeah, we sent you.

You did your job.

Those look awesome.

I'm happy for you guys.

Hank, I'm sure yours is in the mail.

Did they actually say that, Billy?

No, no.

I mean, shout Steve Dimpoli and Ryan Brown.

Some, not alumni, but retired guys who came back for the ring, and we just had a great time. Shout out Jay, too, while we're at it.
Shout out Jay. Shout out Jay.
What do you mean, not alumni, but retired? Are they retired? Yeah, they're retired. Those are the two guys where it was like, yo, a lot of the water dogs are retiring because they want Chip, and they're retired.
Yeah. Did they say my rings in the mail or no? You got a ring coming.
Oh, okay. They definitely haven't made those.
I was talking about this ring. I'm getting what they give the fans.
You get the fan replica for like $200. I was told from the higher-ups, they were like, Hank submitted his ring size late.
Oh. And that's why it's coming late.
As opposed to me and Big Cat who didn't submit a ring size at all. Hank, listen to this.
Listen to this, Hank. Ready? See? Banging on the house of cards.
Yeah. It feels good.
Yeah. Dude, these are serious fucking rings.
Yeah, they're great rings. They work awesome.
I'm happy for you guys and for the team. You're sending mine out to me, right? Because if I own a championship ring, I feel naked when I'm not wearing it.
What? What? You break it up. Sorry, dude.
Can you get your Riverside rate? I'm going to keep this safe. I've been keeping them safe for two days, and it's been nerve-wracking.
Okay. It's like giving Billy those Tamagotchi pets.
See how long he'll take before Billy kills this ring. All right.
What else do we have? We had Wimbledon. And that happened.
Alcatraz. 20 years old.
Alcatraz happened. Thought he was a clay cork guy.
Yeah. Thought he was an alternate surfaces guy not a grass guy yeah but he loves grass oh I uh passing of the torch big cat well yeah I have a question big cat yeah okay go ahead but I I have a statement first um afterwards I don't know but if you guys saw but Djokovic was maybe the most gracious uh competitor of all time he said people have been talking in the past 12 months or so about his game,

talking about Alcaraz, consisting of certain elements from Roger, Rafa,

and myself.

I would agree with that.

I think he's got basically best of all three worlds.

So Djokovic is basically saying this guy is going to be next up.

So I'm counting that as a win.

That's my 25th major that I've won.

So I'm Alcaraz fan now. Not as big of a Djokovic, but I'm an Alcaraz fan as well.
That's loser talk because he baby-bronned him. He baby-bronned him.
He pretty much said, like, this guy reminds me so much of myself. I'm happy to see him win.
He's 16 years younger. He's got all the fucking testosterone and jumping around.
I mean, Djokovic and federer and ruff are all the exact same age so you can't make that same argument he had to play someone 16 years younger well that was my question big cat not only did jokovic lose today but it's like he doesn't have to play versus federer and nadal he's gonna beat rafa's grand slams in like five years he already he already wait who alcaraz? Is coming for the goat crown. Djokovic has the most majors.
But he had to go against Federer and Nadal. So I'm saying you had to watch him lose today and realize like in 10 years, I'm also going to lose the goat crown.
But you just, no, you just said, what you just said means that Djokovic is the goat. he went against roger yes currently and rafa and won all those so alcaraz is going to win mickey mouse majors that's fine no but no alcaraz is going to dominate you judge by major championships i don't know why you guys return this i'm an alcaraz fan he's got someone help me out can someone help me out he's gonna go and i don't know why i i've never of this before when I'm watching tennis, but in that third set, there was that one game that took shit.
27 minutes. 27 minutes, right? It was basically whoever wins that one game is going to win the entire match.
Why the fuck do they score so fucked up in tennis? Why is it 15-15 and then 30-15? So stupid. And then 40-15, and then it's love, and it's deuce, and all this shit.
Why is it? Can and then 30 15 and then 40 15 and then it's love ads deuce and all this shit why is it can somebody explain to me why it's 15 30 40 and then the game oh it makes no sense english stuff metric system is it kilometers is this kilometers 50 grand it's dumb it is so dumb it's so dumb They should score like a real sport where it's 7, 7, 6, 1, 3. Sometimes a 2.
2 for safety. Yeah.
Yeah. That's how real men play sports.
Tennis scores were shown in the Middle Ages on two clock faces. On each score, the pointer moved around a quarter from 0 to 15, 30, 45.
Somehow the 45 got truncated to 40 when the clock faces dropped out of use. That's stupid.
That makes no sense. Did you see Djokovic got penalized for holding his for too long? He literally was just like and he got a time violation today.
Oh, he did? See, they were out to get him. And I felt like the wind was only affecting him.

It took too long for him to walk back to his towel,

pick up his towel.

Bullshit.

Which, you know why they moved the towel station

and they don't have the ball boys handing the towels out anymore, right?

Why?

COVID.

It was a COVID change.

Yeah, so they're all trying to squeeze him.

Yeah, he's our goat.

Just because he didn't want to get vaccinated,

we're going to persecute him? Yeah, They put his towel basically in Southampton, and he has to go by foot over their horseback carriage to dry his hands off and come back. Either way, I will admit that that was a very thrilling Wimbledon.
It was. It was good theater.
It was good. It is an all-time.
I wasn't hungover, but I feel like I'm perpetually hungover with kids, but it was all-time – like, tennis on grass is such a great hungover watch

early in the morning because it's just ball moving on grass.

Not a lot – like, you don't really have to be paying too much attention.

It moves at a good pace, nice little breaks, some grunting.

It's a great sport to watch in the morning. You remember this was probably like 15 years ago, maybe even longer, when Monica Sellis was still playing? And I forget who she was playing against, but they warned both of them.
They're like, hey, you guys grunt too much. It's unladylike.
You're not allowed to grunt in this game or in this match. And then Monica Sellis went out there and gave a grunting performance for the ages.
Basically said, fuck you. You can take my grunts from my cold, dead hands.

And it was, yeah, it was all time.

I think at Wimbledon, that's the only place that they would ever try to.

That might be a bonk.

That also, Monica Seles.

Learn tennis, bro.

Monica Seles.

How do you know that?

Dude, she got stabbed.

She got stabbed, Hank.

And she was also like one of the best tennis players of all time.

I know that, obviously. Here, I'll do Monica Seles grunt.
Ready? What? What? How did you do that? What? Hank, you should start doing that when you golf. We should do a Mount Rushmore later this season where we grunt each other's backs.
Mount Rushmore moans. Yeah, no, just spell them out.
Just be like, what's your next pick? Oh! Good one. I like that.
Okay. We also had Hard Knocks.
Yeah. Hard Knocks decision has been made.
Another national nightmare is over. Yes.
And it's going to be the New York Jets. Which we figured.
The New York football jerks. We figured that.
I mean, Aaron Rodgers, it's got all the storylines behind it. They're going to show him moving into his Brooklyn apartment, which, by the way, you remember when we interviewed Aaron last year and he was like, oh, you guys live in New York.
You're probably some cool Brooklyn guys, right guys right i guarantee you aaron rogers gonna be living in brooklyn although the commute would suck he'd be an idiot to live in brooklyn like i that was like when we had to drive to hoboken that was from brooklyn it sucked but uh last time the jets were on hard knocks they went to the afc championship oh so i! I mean, look, we still have to figure out the stakes of our bet,

but I think Aaron Rodgers is going to have an incredible year.

The script has been flipped on me where I'm now defending Aaron Rodgers,

the player, publicly, and it feels dirty, but I also don't want him to fall off

when he's gone.

That would suck for me.

I want him to be really good. I understand that, but I think it would also be so poetic if he followed the Brett Favre story arc completely.
Brett Favre was good, and he hurt his arm. Sends a bunch of weird dick pics to people, leaves New York, goes to Minnesota, has a career resurgence, and then he gets arrested for defrauding Mississippi.
Well, if you put in that the Bears end his career, Corey Wooten, remember when Brett Favre was like, he looked like a chalk cut out on the pavement, on the frozen Minnesota turf because they were playing outdoors for a couple seasons? If you can give me that, I might sign up for it. Yeah, that's what I'm referring to.
I also just i also just love hard knocks in general hard knocks is such a good tv show to just remind you that football is coming back and i think i actually think you could take any major profession any minor profession and make a hard knocks out of anything they're doing it and we also we we will uh review the quarterback show on netflix uh either friday or monday we're gonna watch it. I've heard good like people complain about it, but if you just show me any behind the scenes football clips, I'll watch it like when when when they I'll do like in between the championship games in the Super Bowl.
I'll watch like the 30 minute episodes that the teams put out just to hear the mic'd up players. Yeah, the mic'd up players the alternate camera camera angles, the plays that you have already seen like seven times.
Right. I think I watched the end of that Vikings-Bills game nine times just from like different vantage points.
The Chiefs-Bills-AFC Championship game, I must have watched a hundred times on all the angles. Billy? PFT, the ring stuck on my finger.
I'm trying to get it off. Grunt it off.
It's not going well. We're going to have to cut that finger off, Bill.
Oh, he gave you a pill. That's when he knows he's serious.
Yeah, we're going to have to cut that shit off, Bill. Can we cut the metal? Can we cut the metal? No, absolutely not.
That's your finger. Jake, can you try to pull that ring off Billy's finger? Come on, get over here.

I think Billy's lying.

How sick would that be if you had a necklace? It's not going well.

If you had a necklace that was the ring, but also Billy's finger?

Yeah, it'd be awesome.

Or we could maybe spray some sort of cooking oil on there.

Lube it up real good.

Get some KY jelly.

Oh, it actually is stuck.

It's actually stuck.

All right, Billy, let me get it.

Jake's being nice. It's like sword in the stone.
Make it straight. Make your fingers straight.
Get off. Get off.
Commentate it, Billy. Commentate on the mic.
I got it. I got it.
I got it. All right.
Thank you, Big Cat. Don't put it back on.
Oh, it's suck again. Oh, no.
Oh, no. Damn.
Keep that shit off there, Billy. But yeah, I just love hard knocks.
I'm just so amped up for football. The decision that which team is going to be at hard knocks.
That is the true restarting of the football year. It is.
And I've there's just nothing that gets me more juiced up than the countdowns. People just tweeting out like this is we have seven Sundays from today or 51 days till college football.
I don't care if it's going to be a random like New Mexico State versus Hawaii on on a streaming platform none of us have I don't care just as soon as the first game kicks off I'm ready to go yeah the start of the football the the official start of the football calendar is hard knocks right the first episode of hard knocks after's the Pro Football Hall of Fame game. After that, it's college football week zero.
Throw in one random really good player gets injured in preseason. Yep, that and a suspension.
Yeah, a suspension, yeah. Today, Scott Hanson said Red Zone returns in a mere octobox of Sundays.
Octo... What? That means eight Sundays? Yeah.
Okay, that... He made us try to do math and, like...
Well, he's a guy. Yeah, but it still moves.
That made me move. Well, we've won the war, so I don't...
Yeah. I don't have to...
There is no options now. Right.
I will now be critical of Scott Hanson because there is no... He's a monopolized red zone, is he not? To my knowledge, yes.
Yeah. So, be ready for that, Scott.
I'm coming for that ass you better you better tell us you better let us know gambling things and and don't give us the fake out where it's like and we cut to we cut to kansas city and it's like a seven yard out and you're expecting to be a fumble nope nope gotta be on your a game billy i have a question for you yes do you think that this is going to play into your whole new york media is going to make jets quarterbacks worse having a bigger magnifying glass under the media of aaron rogers no so aaron rogers is immune to the media circus it is going to be immune or is he he's immune he's got natural immunity to uh yeah new york media but uh what i'm what i'm thinking is i just can't wait to see what zach wilson and aaron rogers talk about when they're like you know in drills throwing just like i i can't like that's just something you're gonna buy into zach wilson again no i mean i think he is the future he's never actually gone he's the future you still think he's i still think that he has the physical capabilities to be you know an amazing quarterback the man the man can make any on the field. I mean, his head, he's young.
He's confused. We're doing this.
He's short. He's not short.
He's 6'2". He's like 5'6".
He's shorter than me. He's shorter than me.
The man can make some amazing throws, and I hope Aaron Rodgers gets his head right. All right.
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Hank, how many Coors Light you have this weekend?

The limit does not exist. Still going.
All my friends' flights got delayed, so we're probably going to have a few more tonight. PFT's video on his vacation with the bathing suit.
Yes. Hilarious.
Yeah, we got new merch, too, in the part of my take store. The swimsuits, the mountains turn blue.
They come out when you get them wet. So if you go piss dogs on them, it's a great visual.
It's always good for a laugh. Oh, is that your who's back, Hank? Yeah, I was going to talk about Rodgers and Rory, but we talked about that.
I am also, I was wearing the swimsuit earlier, did my first lake jump. Nice.
And it's honestly unbelievable. The technology is unbelievable.
It is. PFT can attest.
Wait, you mean lakes? No, no, no. No, the bathing suit mountains turning blue

after you get them in the water is very, very sick.

That would be funny if you were just talking about lakes.

You're like, how'd they get all this water here?

Well, yeah, they just got an ocean.

They have an ocean in Chicago.

Lake Superior is the goat Great Lake.

Why?

No, I'm a Lake Michigan guy.

No, no, it's just the goat.

Why?

Because it's cold and it's clear and

it's see-through. Okay.

Yeah.

It'd be a real shame if people started taking

videos of themselves peeing their Blue Mountain

swimsuit and having mountains

come out. Yeah.

Shout out to the people out there that were like,

look at this grown-ass man.

I'm not going to sit there and piss myself

after being out in the sun for six hours drinking Coors Lights. Also, we piss ourselves all the time.
We're not grown-ass men. We're definitively not grown-ass men.
We are in age only are we grown-ass men. Okay, good.
Who's back, Hank? Thank you. PFT's video.
PFT. Shorts.
No, shorts. Specifically Coors Lights ones.
Shorts are back. Shorts are back.
Okay, I guess let's play the hits. My Who's Back of the Week is Dan Snyder.
Oh. I told you.
I told you. Oh, my God.
So people who don't know, we taped the takeies like three weeks before they aired. I kept on getting tweets.
I was like, wait, what was my future take of the year? And then i forgot that it basically kind of almost came true already no no it didn't almost come true already a report came out last wednesday uh from i think it was probably dan van natta and uh seth wickersham they're always the ones that put out these bombshells at like 7 a.m about dan snyder it happens like once every two months and it was behind the scenes of how Dan tried to strong arm the NFL and John Gruden. And basically he was behind all these leaks that happened, which is if you had a brain, you knew who was behind those leaks.
Of course, when they were coming out, like everyone got mad at John Gruden for the contents of the email. But to me, the bigger story was always like, why is this email being selectively leaked? That was the result of a commander's or Redskins investigation.

And the story was always going to be Dan Snyder being a piece of shit asshole.

And so that story came out.

And then the following day, a follow-up report said that things are in jeopardy with the sale of the team

because there's some loose ends in regards to indemnifying Dan Snyder against all the bullshit that he pulled

while he was still the owner of the team. And no, Hank, you don't get to shrug your shoulders like I told you.
I was literally just copying Billy. It hasn't happened yet.
It hasn't happened yet. Okay, listen.
Would you say my take almost came true? We've yet to see it. I'm waiting for all the facts to come out.
But if Dan Snyder – Why don't you do that that when they signed this would be the most diabolical fucking thing this man has ever done if he goes this far makes specifically i would feel targeted i would feel like i was the one that he was going at if he goes this far throughout the process of selling the team gives me six months to celebrate him selling the team and then doesn't sell you gotta you You've got to return all those t-shirts. You've got to do a buyback program.
And then you pop champagne. Then I'm out.
I'm out. If Dan Snyder comes back, I'm out.
I'm out. I can't do it.
I can't turn back. I'll root for any team in the NFL.
You've got to become a Texans fan. Or a Bears fan.
I'm in Chicago. Yeah, that's on par for bad.
Yeah, it's on par, but at least it's not the fucking Dan Snyder's. That would be so awesome if you were a Texan fan.
We just forget to bring them up on Mondays. You're like, what about my team? Maybe the C words.
Maybe I just have to root for the C words. But yeah, I was very upset.
And I still am very upset because I'm realizing that there's probably like a 25% possibility that he does stick around for the rest of my life, owns the team, and I'll probably die before he does. Yeah.
25%? That's all. Yeah, 25%.
That sounds like a lot. Hey, you don't know anything about how big transactions are done, okay? You don't know anything about the world of finance.
You don't know about getting all your ducks in a row on this shit. I know you don't pop champagne before the Super Bowl.
You don't pop champagne if the deal's not signed. That's all I know.
That's what I know. The interest rates weren't right, bro.
Yeah. It has nothing to do with the interest rates, Billy.
100%. It was definitely.
They're too high. Yeah, thanks, Biden.
Money's too expensive. Give me Mohammed bin Salman.
Give me the Saudi Arabian public investment fund. Anybody.
Anybody but Dan Snyder. I don't care.
Give me Billy. Give me Billy owning the team.
I don't give a shit. No, you don't want that.
No, no. No.
Way, way for Billy and Dan Snyder. I hope the fucking team would be sick.
Okay. And there's a lot of sickos out there, by the way, who told me, like, I'm so glad this is happening to you when it looked like Dan Snyder might come back.
There's a lot of freaks that are – That's fucked up. Shut up, Hank.
There's a lot of freaks that are rooting for me to be miserable for the rest of my life. This is the worst thing that's ever happened.
They did a list. They did a fucking list of the best players from each position during the Dan Snyder era.
And it was the most depressing list that you'll ever read. The best quarterback that they had from the entire Dan Snyder era was RG3 for six weeks in 2012.
It was a great six weeks. It was a great six weeks.
He was sick. All right, who's back is Andy Dalton.
Andy Dalton's back. I don't know if you guys saw this quote that was dropped.
I think it was Miles Sanders who's now on the Panthers. He was doing a podcast, and he said, we've got a very, very good young quarterback that's being mentored by a very, very, very good quarterback, future Hall of Famer, Andy Dalton.

So Andy Dalton's back.

Which Hall of Fame?

TCU?

I was thinking about it.

I don't know if he's even in the Redhead Hall of Fame.

Conan O'Brien, Ed Sheeran, Lindsay Lohan, Bill Walton.

I'd put him in over Lindsey Lohan I don't know what about Emma Stone Lindsey Lohan was she had a decade run of greatness Dalton was just a quarterback in the NFL for like Mark McGuire Prince Harry it's a question whether he's in the Redhead Hall of Fame. Yeah, he's not.
I don't think that they're – he's not a shoo-in for any Hall of Fame. I'll put it that way.
Right. So he is back, though.
Also, Kevin Durant's back. He's very online.
And he had to refute a fake quote that made me laugh. Like one of those NBA Central fake accounts tweeted Kevin Durant, quote, I'm seven feet tall and have the skill set of a shooting guard.
I'm the best scorer in NBA history. My only weakness is injuries.
And I just that it does actually sound like something he would say to someone in a reply like that. That's not that far off.
It really does actually just sound like something that a Kevin Durant stand would say about Kevin Durant in an argument about whether kevin durant is the best player of this generation and the stand is actually kevin durant in a burner account in a burner account yeah yeah so it's it's i just saw that i was like oh yeah and it also i think it got community noted uh and it just says as inferred by kevin durant this a fake quote. That's like the weakest community notes ever.

It doesn't even say it's fake. I thought you were saying got community noted because somebody was like,

actually, Kevin Durant isn't the best scorer.

That would be great.

By these metrics.

Yeah, that would be great.

Actually, he's got more weaknesses.

His handle gets a little loose in the playoffs.

Okay, Billy, who's back?

Waterdogs and the Gilgo Beach serial killer has has been caught this might be a little local uh long island guys will know what i'm talking about but they caught him uh it was an architect and he was um murdering people and they caught and they caught him in the most long island way ever they got dna off of a pizza box where he didn't finish his crust. Exactly.

Gotta eat that crust.

Gotta eat your crust, dude.

I would never... I'll tell you one thing.

If they get me for DNA,

there's a million ways you can do it.

You could never get it for pizza

because I always finish the whole slice.

Always.

Yeah, that's what people should tell their kids

from now on.

Here's why you should be a member

of the Clean Plate Club.

Because if you don't,

you might get arrested for being a serial killer.

Also, it's not a funny story, obviously,

because he's a serial killer

and people died, but...

But he got his ass.

There was a twist that gave me a little chuckle. He did a video with some French dude who interviews architects in New York City.
And so this video that probably had 20 people who watched it, I clicked on it, and it has like a million and a half views on youtube

so yeah interview with a serial killer that's that guy has a his his revenue is popping this month any serial killers of this next generation there's going to be a treasure trove of online content that they've left behind yeah that is not linked at all to whatever their crime is that we're going to get to go through it's gonna be wonderful yeah this guy he's a real fucking piece shit. So how many people

did he kill, Billy?

Four that we know of. Four that we're going to get to go through.
It's going to be wonderful. Yeah.
This guy, he's a real fucking piece of shit. So how many people did he kill, Billy? Four that we know of.
Four that we know of. And it was all like in a short stretch in 2010.
So it's been a while. So he just quit? He just got out the game? Was he the one that was like dumping him on the beach? Yeah, yeah.
I don't know how serial killing works. I had heard about that guy.
I don't know how serial killing works, but he just had a kick. I think he was back on the game, PFT, because there was someone, a woman filed a police report recently being like, this guy was just being the biggest creep ever at the beach, like kind of stalking me, and he fit the description of the serial killer.
And so, yeah. You can only stay away for so long.
You don't hear about any serial killers just, like, walking away at the peak of their talents. Yeah.
There's no Barry Sanders of serial killers. Yeah, went to high school with Billy Baldwin.
Yeah. Wow.
Billy Baldwin just tweeted that. He's like, oh, wow.
I went to high school with this guy. It could have been me.
Whoa. Shit.
Okay, Jake, finish us off.

Who's back is Steph Curry.

Yes.

He joins the summer 2023 hole-in-one crew.

Real hole-in-one.

Max Homa, Blake Griffin, and now Steph Curry.

Oh, Blake Griffin, redhead Hall of Fame.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Easy.

So that was a sick hole-in-one.

Yeah, because we saw the whole thing.

Yeah.

If I had the camera crew, I did as much as I could. Jake, you're a old lady griffon identify as a redhead though thanks i don't know i got you i don't know he's down right now he lost blake of the year i don't think you get to determine you're putting a title on him that he might not he might not want to identify as i don't think you get to decide that i think that's for people that want to make fun of no it's a choice decide no what identify however you want by the way do we have the the intro to the show do we change it was gonna change it to the one he said no okay so what do i need to text him and have him send me this may never get back it's part of my take presented by barstool sports It's part of my take presented by Bar sports so he's yeah all right it's i can you want me i can text him if you want oh yeah text him text him and get it uh yeah so that tournament is great there's always great clips yeah we're gonna go next year put on the map we're going we're going to play with a mouthpiece no no i've been sick i've been sick z I would have been sick.
Zaha, our colleague, good friend of all of ours,

had maybe the craziest take of all time.

He's like, I saw Steph Curry golf at a Barstool Classic.

As good as he is at basketball, he's that much better at golf.

He's like a top 15 basketball player of all time.

So I don't think he really understood what he was saying in that tweet,

but it was great.

He also finished off the tournament with an eagle to win.

Yeah, crazy.

He might be a better golfer than he is a basketball player.

He could be.

I mean, I'm still waiting.

How sick would that be if Steph Curry just went pro?

Can't be better than the class. Like Tony Romo should have.

That's the thing, though.

Tony Romo has always talked about as such an incredible golfer.

He's never sniffed pro, right?

No, but he's come close to qualifying for some U.S. Opens.

So Danny Woodhead is at, like, the same level as Tony Romo is.

Steph Curry might be better than, I mean,

Tony Romo was competing in this week's tournament, too,

and Curry Dustin.

Oh, okay.

So maybe.

I'm looking at the scorecards.

Tony Romo was. They've always got somecards.
Tony Romo was got some injuries.

Tony Romo was eight over on three rounds total.

What was Steph Curry?

Steph was even one over three under.

So two under.

Still very far away.

Like I would imagine if a pro played that course,

they would be like minus 16.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know.

You think he's better?

I think he might be.

Yeah.

I think I might agree with Zah. I think he's better called? I think he might be.
Yeah, I think I might agree with Za.

I think he's playing the wrong sport.

Okay, let's get to Craig Olsen,

and then we have Mount Rushmore of Everyday Villains.

Billy and Jake are on a fucking heater, by the way.

It is now, what's the official standings?

11 to 10.

You guys are up one on us, and we're up two on Max.

Okay, so Max and Hank need...

Five straight.

They need some... They need something.
They need some juice. This is usually the time of year when Hank decides to blow up his own team and go in a different direction.
Yeah. Yeah.
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Not us. Okay.
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G a gambling problem call 1-800-GAMBLER okay we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests it is greg olson he is the man who called the super bowl this past year we're at tight end you you're you're a baby tight end you you and george uh so year three let's start with tight end you year three how do you think it's going do you think we're getting tight ends more money I think so I think our business model from the beginning is how much money can we spend how much corporate money can we spend on the camp to have professional tight ends make more money in the NFL I think that was the business model and the inspiration behind the entire camp I think we're doing pretty well last year year we had 82 guys. I think this year we have 82.
So it's growing. I don't know how much bigger we can physically expand to and still keep the integrity of the event, but it's growing a lot faster than, I mean, we had 25 or 35 the first year.
So we're at 82 now. And we have a lot of guys that reach out last minute.
We're like, we don't have any rooms left. Yeah.
Have you thought about getting Jimmy Graham to teach a class and just having him say, take the letters TE out of your bio on Twitter, and then they have to pay you as a wide receiver? Yeah, and line up less than four yards, more than four yards from the tackle. And then when he would have won his arbitration hearing back in like 14.
Yeah. So that's on him.
He should have not lined up so close to the tackle so often. He should have moved out one more yard, and he would have broke the bank.
So that's a missed opportunity. But, yeah, we'd love to have Jimmy come.
We've got Gronk coming this year, first time he's ever come, so that'll be cool. Obviously, Kelsey at Kittle.
We've had Waller the last two years. And we've – name him, we've had him come through here.
So it's pretty cool. It's a cool environment to be in.
And I'm going to gas you up because I know that you're too classy to gas yourself up on this. But after the Super Bowl this year, we said, Greg gave Fox Sports something to think about with Tom Brady with your performance in the Super Bowl.
And I hope it wasn't biased. I hope you guys genuinely – No.
I hope our friendship didn't cloud that comment. No.
You did such a good job that they – somebody is having a conversation right now that's like, oh, we got Greg. Well, I appreciate that.
I'll be honest, since every person I know obviously listens to PMT, including myself. But I hadn't listened to that one yet, and I had a buddy call.
They're like, hey, you need to put on, you need to put on PMT this week. They just did their Superbowl kind of recap show.
And they talked about you. I was like, and I, so I went back and listened.
I'll be honest. I appreciate that.
That was, that was super cool. But, uh, listen, I said from the beginning, I knew how awkward it was going to be with the Brady, with the Brady stuff.
Um, you know, when that news came down and then obviously they ended up putting me in temporarily, you know, for that year, assuming when he retired that he would do it this season, the 23 season. I knew last year that was going to be the swirling question.
I knew that was going to be kind of the uncomfortable elephant in the room of, well, yeah, you're doing it now, but you're just kind of the bench warmer. You're just keeping the seat warm until Brady comes.
And my approach was, you know, like be the one that makes it awkward, be the one that brings it up. Like, don't shy away from it because you can either let it crush you or you can just kind of lean into it and make it fun and say, Hey, I'm going to have a blast with this thing until they, they literally call me and kick me out.
And that was, that was how I tried to do it. I didn't try to call the game the way other guys do.
I didn't try to call the game the way I thought Brady would do it. I just tried to call the game the way Kevin and I did the year before when we were on the number two crew.
And the only difference this year is just more people watched our game. A lot more people.
A lot more people. We were unbiased because you did a fantastic job.
And I think I even said in an unbiased way, you were a piece of shit for not mentioning how bad the turf was specifically for the Eagles. Yeah, because they changed the turf.
When the Eagles were out there, the turf was worse. And then when the Chiefs went out, they roll it in and out.
So no, I probably should have been more clear on that. I probably should have been clearer that the turf was different for each team, which was unfortunate.
I feel like i did make up for it though on the pass interference holding slash holding yeah you were on that um still don't think it was a great call yeah and also if uh who was it bradbury bradbury if he didn't afterwards say i held him it would have been a bigger story it would have been and he made me look bad bad, so I'm mad at James. Because when he took ownership, when he went full professional post-game locker room, that's on me.
I did hold him call. It really kind of made my argument not as strong in real time.
No, but you did a great job in that moment because I think even, let's say, yes, okay, he held him. That's the letter of the law they call it.
You were basically saying what everyone in America was thinking at that moment, that this is an all-time classic Super Bowl, and to have it end in this way sucks. It just does.
It sucks. And I think after the performance that we saw from both teams at halftime, we didn't know if Mahomes was going to be able to play anymore.
He restings the ankle. Then they trade blows.
They go back and forth. That game deserved for Philly and Jalen Hurts to get the ball with I don't know was there a minute minute 30 I don't remember exactly how much time there was there would have been after the incomplete on third down settle for three and they get the ball and they go but instead we got an unbelievably historically exciting game that came down to a kneel kneel time, timeout, in essence, a walk-off field goal.
It felt like the air in the stadium came out. And I think something that I try to remind myself of, I'm not always going to be perfect in the booth, but you're a fan.
We're all fans of professional football. We're fans of NFL football.
I don't care who wins the game. I want to see what was a historically great Superbowl have a historically great ending.
And I think when the MVP runner up has a chance to have the ball to answer a score that the MVP quarterback just had before him, I think everyone in there except a Kansas city chiefs fan. I think the rest of the world was calling for that ending.
And just because we were in the booth, we were too. Like it wasn't such an egregious, such a ridiculous penalty that you have no choice to throw it.
Right. I'm not one of those guys that says, Hey, when the game's on the line, you swallow, you whistle and basketball, you stick your, no penalties are penalties, fouls are fouls.
I get it. But it just seemed so ticky tack in the moment.
And it changed, it changed the way that game was viewed from a historical context. There's no question.
It had nothing to do with the fact that you were telling us earlier you put $100,000 on the game. No, it had nothing to do with that.
We can't joke about that anymore. Guys are getting – That was a joke.
That was a joke. Can we edit it? He was joking.
This was an edit. I do not have – Hank, get this.
Figure that out. I have a question.
Figure that out. Get that out.
I have a question. Was it more – were you more nervous to play in a Super Bowl or call a Super Bowl? I think play.
Really? Yeah, and I think there's twofold. I think I had never been there, right? I think it was a career-long journey.
I had been close. My last year in Chicago, we lost to the Packers, um, in the NFC championship game.
So I had, I hadn't gotten close. I'd played in some big playoff games, been in some moments, but you know, people can prepare you all they want for what playing in the Superbowl is like.
Um, but until you're out there, it really is a surreal moment. You know, I remember walking off the field and you get into the locker room after the game and you're like, wait, it can't be over.
Like, back and redo it like we got to start over again it just it's a very it's hard to explain i think playing it it was my lifelong dream you work your entire your world revolves around playing at the highest level getting to that point it was and you're like i'm here like let's not fuck it up and we did we did fuck it up yeah and we played the worst game of our entire season and blew it I think now coming back in a different role but had been at the Super Bowl before it's you're not the one on the field right you're just reacting to what's going on I had been at the Super Bowl I didn't the wins the winner and loser had no bearing on me like so I just think the the role of the game was obviously a lot different um I was older I probably was more mature for it I don't know I just I felt very comfortable once the ball got kicked off it felt very normal standing up in the booth with Kevin kind of calling it the way we had all year I mean that's awesome that's a testament to what you guys were able to build this year now uh other game and we're not going to all talk all broadcasting but the eagle the nfc championship game like once brock purdy gets hurt are you guys just going through like a list of stories you can tell like we're gonna have to this game because it really didn't have any once he was hurt and then uh josh johnson got concussed it was like we now have two more hours of this game that is in no doubt. It's so funny.
We have like, so we do our production meetings all week. And then the night before the game, we have like our big crew-wide production meeting.
And the way it works is all week, we all share, you know, whether it's texts and emails and phone calls, whatnot. And we get like our top storylines of the game, the overarching themes of the game.
And then each storyline of San Francisco's offense, San Francisco's defense, in this case, Philadelphia's offense, Philadelphia's defense, and you kind of set the tone. And most games go exactly according to plan, right? Early in the game, man, it's all about the quarterbacks, whatever the storylines are.
Let's dive into the quarterbacks. Let's let the game unfold.
We don't need to force in a lot of things early in the game. Let's let it breathe as the game goes on you kind of follow a b c d and you kind of go through your checklist as the game goes this game was one of those games where it's like you better have a full bucket like you like you better have a full bucket of content to talk about because every once in a while you get one game a year that just goes sideways yeah and nothing you prepared for all for all week, none of the storylines, none of the players, nothing goes the way you thought it was, and you better have some shit to talk about.
Well, our one game last year just happened to be the NFC Championship, and a game that we thought going in had the makings of like an all-time matchup. And then it just completely fell on its face.
And we went an entire, what was it half did josh johnson get concussed early in the third quarter late and it was also the member that i think the eagles scored right before half and it looked like the niners were going to score and then there was an interception or something or a fumble so they played almost an entire half of the nfc championship and they were not in a place to throw a competitive downfield pass it's i mean it was it's it's unmatched and and it just happened to be on such a big scale but i remember walking out of the game and we were pissed right like you want to call big matchups big moments 42 40 come down to the last two minute drive and timeouts and this big ending and are literally running smokescreens. McCaffrey's at Wildcat quarterback.
They're running triple reverse passes. I mean, it's recess, right? They're playing gym-class football out of necessity.
And I remember walking out of the stadium, and it was such a buzzkill. We're like, yeah, we get to call the Super Bowl, but fuck, like that game sucked.
There was nothing exciting about it. Well, at the same time, like after a couple days passed, we're like, you know what? if we fuck like that game sucked there was nothing exciting about it well at the same time like after a couple days passed we're like you know what if we can call that game we can call any game in the history of the NFL we just called the game with 50 million people watching it and we had a team that was incapable of throwing a forward pass it was like we were watching army in like 1850 yeah you know it was just it was very was a very surreal game to broadcast, but I also think a really good one to kind of put in the bank and say, hey, you got to figure it out.
You got to figure it out and find ways to get around it because the broadcast doesn't stop. And there's still 50 million people that are listening to every word you say, and they're not going to give you a break just because of the circumstances of the game.
You still better be able to keep them entertained and you better know your shit i think that's a fair point i mean big cat started this podcast it was pretty much right as march madness was ending and we didn't at this time of year in the sports calendar nothing to talk about yep so we basically filled our first four months five months with doing an entire second half of the nfc championship game then football season comes around it's like content overload Bowl comes around for you. You nail it.
Do you actually do go back and listen to your old broadcast? Do you critique yourself? It's funny. You said I was with Burkhart.
I was playing golf with him the other day, and he goes, hey, for the first time I went back and watched the Super Bowl. I was like, really? He's like, man, I really like the sound of it.
Six months has passed it five months, whatever. And I wanted to go back and take a listen.
He's like, I really thought it was good. I was like, I'll be honest with you, man.
I haven't listened to one of our broadcasts. I caught about 20 minutes of our Minnesota Vikings wildcard round between the Vikings and the Giants.
When the Giants beat the Vikings this year, we called that. That game was awesome.
I caught like 20 minutes of that on like a random Wednesday night at 10 o'clock. It came on NFL Network.
So I listened to like the end of the third quarter, and I was like, all right. That's it.
But I had never once gone back and listened to one of our broadcasts. We did a quick crew meeting one time where our crew played the first quarter of a game just to talk through some different mechanics and whatnot with the truck.
But I don't go back and listen to him. I don't like the sound of my voice.
I don't like, I would say the biggest reason that I don't is after every game, it's no different than as a player, you replay every, I mean, you guys probably do it. Like you do an interview and you're like, shit, I should have asked him this, or I should have went this.
Like you replay every game.

I don't want to get into the habit where I, when I watch it post, I second guess everything I did

in real time. And then the next game, the next week I have that recall in my head and I'm like,

and I'm second guessing myself. Like I want it to be natural.
I want whatever comes out to come out.

And when it's over, it's over. I don't want to cloud the real time decision-making that goes

I'll see to be natural. I want whatever comes out to come out.
And when it's over, it's over. Yeah.
I don't want to cloud the real time decision-making that goes on calling a game by being like Johnny, you know, Monday morning quarterback. And I'm sure there's people that you have that do that for you.
They give you pointers. Yeah.
Yeah. My first year, every Tuesday, our director would give us like a long email by Tuesday morning.
It was long and I would look forward to reading it. And it was a minute by minute breakdown of the entire broadcast, not just me or the booth, but the truck, Hey, camera a, you've got to be on the seven yard line.
You were on the 12 yard line. You missed your angle.
Hey truck, we've got to be better getting the replay back to the booth booth. You guys got to sit out longer because you came you came in whatever it was it's a minute by minute time stamped analysis of the entire broadcast like that was super helpful last year my producer and director would call me in the middle of the week with hey in the open you know don't feel like you have to go so long or hey in the line show your brick watch yeah exactly yeah things like that like keep it up longer keep your hands above your head like stuff like that maybe we're watching the other wrist yeah yeah wear two watches and it's called the mincey yeah right don't do the other mincey right right right did they ever tell you more that more of this less of the other yeah yeah yeah good work um yeah uh is there one that's fair yeah is there one call that you'd like to have back one call yeah yeah i mean i i mean i've messed up what's funny is like you when you know you misspeak or you get the guy's number wrong or you get the guy's name wrong in your brain it's like you get that like hot sensation because you know it immediately i mispronounced routes as roots earlier.
You said Roots. To Sam Darnold, I was like, fuck, he thinks I don't know ball, but I know ball.
That's tough. That's a tough one.
Roots 66. Yeah, Roots, Roots.
It's my McLean accent. Yeah, right.
No, we'll let it slide, but it's fine. It's nice to know, though, that the guy doesn't know ball.
I'm getting hot right now. Johnny Roots.
But no, you get that hot, you get that like hot oh my god the whole world and reality is like no one even picked up on it they have no idea that you called him joe and his name's john no you should check twitter because they're they're on your ass yeah that's fair yeah i try i try not to do that too regularly um but yeah i mean i've made plenty of stupid comments plenty of mistakes. Call a guy the wrong name, have the wrong timeouts.
You know, it happened to the guy. He called the ending of that great game the other night.
It was a Paul Ravage. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I wake up and I'm reading. I see the video that's being shared.
Barstool shares it. Everybody shares it.
And like, it's easy to laugh at the guy and it's easy to poke fun. And yeah, like you're calling the College World Series.
What was it? Like Old Dominion or something, right? it's easy to laugh at the guy and it's easy to poke fun and yeah like you're calling the college world series what was it like old dominion or something right it's easy to knock the guy and how do you mess that up in the moment like sometimes when things are going fast i i i'm like man i put myself in that position but like there were times where i'm trying to make a point and i'm like no that wasn't patrick mahomes was when Jalen Hurts had the ball that that whole sequence would and you like have the entire wrong team sequence of events that was the Chiefs and you're talking about it like it was the Eagles right like it can happen to anybody and like I believe in karma so I'm like I'm not resharing that I'm pretending like I never saw it I'm not putting that up to the gods that they uh one day put me in carl ravitch's shoes but i've messed up a million things and drawn the wrong picture on the diet you know the penis illustrator dong that's tough yeah there's so many things in nfl football that look like penises yeah i can't even and there's a lot of like very questionable verbiage that's used in nfl football that penetration come inside yeah like there's a lot There's a lot of like very questionable verbiage that's used in NFL football. Penetration.
Come inside. Yeah.
There's a lot of stuff that like you got to be careful. Yeah.
And I'm not going to lie. There's times where I'm like, here's a safety.
Here's a safety. And you want to show like that third little zone.
And you're like, nope. Delete.
Clear screen. You're like, I'm not going to be the dick guy.
This is why you got to be on the Arizona Bowl broadcast because we just did everything. I love it.
By the way, texting with you guys, live texting with you on that game was a highlight of bowl season for me. And I think you told Dave, hey, let Jake talk more.
Dave was like, fuck that. I'll tell you what, that was a bowl season highlight for me.
my wife's like what are you doing what game are we watching i'm like relax i'm live i'm texting in real time right now with big cat and portnoy about their broadcast of the arizona bowl she's like you're you're ridiculous you're so stupid hey it was a great game it was a great game it was a great broadcast and that was as fun as I had in real time watching a game in a long time. Should we talk about Miami? Sure.
What's going on? Not back. Basketball had a great year.
Okay, we're not talking about basketball. Baseball made it to the ACC championship.
Oh, that's not what you meant? No. I'm a believer in Mario Cristobal.
Oh, wait. The girls basketball team making the Elite Eight.
That's true. The Cavender Twins.
Yes. They went to Indiana.
They had a great run. They beat Indiana.
Listen, I'm a believer in Mario Cristobal. Oh, wait.
The girls basketball team making the Elite Eight. That's true.
The Cavender Twins. Yes.

They went to Indiana.

They had a great run.

They beat Indiana.

Listen, I'm a believer in Mario Cristobal.

I am too.

What happened?

I think that that was a bigger turnaround job than what people thought.

And I think Mario, just from knowing him.

So my history with Mario goes back.

I was a rising sophomore.

I was going in my 10th grade year in high school Mario was the quality offensive quality control or and I guess that's what they call him in college he'd be the offensive GA but it's the same equivalent and assistant tight ends coaches he but he was in all fact Butch Davis was the head coach Larry Coker was the offensive coordinator Greg Sciano was the defensive coordinator I, that was like the heyday of Miami. That was top, top tier Dorsey and those guys.
So I'm rising 10th grader. I meet Mario for the first time.
That next year, when I'm a sophomore, that fall, Greg Sciano goes from defensive coordinator at Miami to the head coach at Rutgers, which is in New Jersey. Brings Mario as his tight end coach.
So he started recruiting me at Miami as like a GA. This was in like 2000 ish.
He goes to Rutgers, recruits me for three years, in essence, to come to Rutgers. I obviously didn't go there, end up going to Miami.
My first year, our tight end coach leaves to go join Butch with the Cleveland Browns and Larry Coker brings Mario back to Miami as my tight end coach. So I go way back with my, with Mario.
I talked to him the other day on the phone for a long time and whatnot. I said this from the dime.
He got the job. If he can't turn Miami back into what we all remember Miami, it just can't be done.
Yeah. That would be, it just can't be done.
Yeah. That would be a sad reality to confront.
And I don't think that's going to be the way it all shakes out, but I think when we look back on it, if it doesn't, it's never going to happen. So what was different about the U back then than where we're at right now? You know, I think the times – Nevin Shapiro's in jail.
That hurt. No, I think – no, but there is some validity to like that kind of stuff, especially in today's day and age, right? In this day and age where recruiting is NIL based, you're legally paying players, $100 million facilities, you come on your recruiting visit and you drive around in a Ferrari all week, like everything now has gotten so blown out of what really matters, which is, okay, you're going to come play for me.
You're going to get an education. I'm going to prepare you to win national championships, and you're going to go to the NFL.
That was always Miami's recruiting pitch. You come here, if you're worth a shit, and you're willing to compete against the best guys in the world at what they do, you're going to get drafted, and you're going to make a career in the NFL.
That was the calling card of why you went to Miami. The practices in Miami were harder than the games were when we played Wake Forest and Clemson at the time,

and Georgia Tech and all these, like, we competed against more first rounders in practice than we

did in any of the games, maybe outside of Florida State. It just was, the culture was different.

What kids wanted in recruiting was different. When you came, when I went to Miami, if you walked in

the weight room, the locker room, the training room, where we ate lunch, dinner, you'd be like,

Thank you. wanted in recruiting was different.
When you came, when I went to Miami, if you walked in the weight room, the locker room, the training room, where we ate lunch, dinner, you'd be like, yeah, like this isn't very, but back when I came out or even before, when I was younger in high school, it didn't matter. It was not a contest to see who had the nicest barbershop and who had the best water slide and who had like, but that's what these kids social media.
And I don't want to sound like an old man, but like this whole craze of attention, social media going viral, the thing, everything that really doesn't matter as far as becoming a great college slash NFL football player is the priority. Now you go on recruiting visits nowadays.
I mean, I talk to kids all over the country when they go to these schools or high school kids back home that are being recruited. The conversations going on at the dinner tables when I was getting recruited, all right, you're going to meet with our guidance counselors.
We're going to get you a degree. What are your interests? We're going to get you drafted.
We're going to develop you as a player. They don't even talk about that anymore.
It's what's my NAL package? How many years do I have to play? Can I start as a freshman? If I don't start as a freshman, I'm going in the portal. I'm gone.
There's no room for development. There's no room for by the time you're in your second, third year, you're going to be a great player.
And that was always what Miami's shtick was. It just doesn't play in this.
So now they're trying to catch up, but they're playing 10 years behind a lot of the other big players, right? We don't have the endowment. We don't have the budget.
We don't have the alumni. You know, we have 10,000 kids in the school.
Georgia produces more of that in every graduating class. Yeah.
And some. It's just different.
And Miami's now having to play by these new rules that they've never had to play by. And Mario's trying.
But in a lot of ways, they're playing catch up. How obnoxious are you going to be if Miami does, in fact, come back? the year that miami the flash in the pan that miami had the notre dame the notre dame game the barrios i showed up the next day to to the facility in a catholics first convicts t-shirt i wore my helmet in i was the most obnoxious my and it lasted for two weeks yeah that was like our moment at the last decade was that two week span we were i don't know whatever we peaked at in the country top 10 or five whatever it was and we bludgeoned notre dame on national tv and man i i was buying catholics versus convicts t-shirts i was putting them in guys lockers i mean i was obnoxious it you know then i think in the bowl game we lost to like wichita state i don't know.
I think you actually lost to Wisconsin. Yeah.
Yeah, because we actually ended the turnover chain because Paul Christ, maybe the swagless details of the story are irrelevant. The least swaggy coach of all time was like, turnover chain my ass.
And that was it. I don't want to get into the semantics of the story, but like I don't want to get into the details and get bogged down.
But the moral of story is Mario's last two recruiting classes have been big he still might be one big time class away from it really being the Miami we know but I I think they're going to be significantly more competitive than they were last year at least we hope I I root for Miami just because my friend Danny Boy Kane I just want him to be happy he needs happiness yeah I root for Miami because obviously that's my that's my heart I went there my wife went there I would I love nothing more watching their girls basketball watching their men's team make the lead both make the lead eight maybe one made the final four whatever it was um the baseball like we love supporting Miami sports we donate we give like but the football team needs to be good let's be honest like rest of the sports, and I root for them because I root for them, but I root for them more now because of how much I love Mario and respect what he's done. I'll do anything he asks and support him in any capacity a lot more than maybe I did for a lot of the other coaches.
A, because I just like them and go way back, but B, because I believe that, like I said, if he can't do it, it can't be done.

Could the 2001-2002 Miami team have played in the NFL?

Yes.

As a team?

100%. I mean, they're not going to win the Super Bowl, but they'd be more competitive than

some of the bottom teams that we see year in and year out at the bottom of the league.

That's the greatest.

I know the, what is it, the 18-19 LSU team?

What year was that with Burrow?

Yeah, yeah. 2019? Yeah, it was right before COVID, yeah.
So I know that team was historic. There is no comparison in my mind.
The 2000, 2001 Miami team that beat Nebraska, and then the next year a bunch of those guys came back and lost to Ohio State. But that Nebraska team, that's the best college football team of all time.
Yeah, I actually agree with you. They're probably the most fun team to just go back and say names from that team.
Do you want to say some names? I mean, this is the best way to run it down. Sean Taylor and Antrell Roll and Kellen Winslow were running down on kickoff.
Yeah, that's insane. Because they weren't good Yeah.
Willis McGahee was moved to backup fullback because he was third string tailback behind Frank Gore and Clinton Portis. Yeah.
It's insane. Andre John was Andre Johnson, Andre Johnson, Jeremy Shockey, Bryant McKinney, Dorsey, Vilma, right? Vilma, DJ Williams, Vince Wilfork.
I mean, you could go on. It's ridiculous.
I just ridiculous. I just nutted.
So, I mean, a couple years. So, years after that.
So, that was my junior year in high school. My senior year in high school, the Miami lost to Ohio State.
And then I went in that next. So, that game was in January.
I enrolled to say like July, August, whatever it was. I wasn't playing.
I wasn't good enough as a freshman. I was also ineligible because I transferred from Notre Dame in a day where you couldn't just freely transfer.
So I was ineligible my freshman year. I could only practice.
When I broke the huddle my first year, so this is 2003. We started out high, but we did not end the year.
We had six first-round draft picks that year. That set the record most ever in the first round.
We had six. When I broke the huddle as a scout team tight end that year, we had Kelly Jennings' first-round pick, Antrell Ruhl first-round pick, Sean Taylor first-round pick, DJ Williams first-round pick, Jonathan Vilma first-round pick, Vince Wilfork first-round pick, Roger McIntosh second-round pick just on defense.
Yeah. defense crazy it was wild that's nuts santana moss was he around santana was on the previous year we were talking about so i sonoris his younger brother played with me santana oh reggie wayne yeah they were all on that nebraska crazy it's insane that you that like reggie wayne is the one that just pops oh yeah there's so many oh you know what reggie might have been the year before that might have been reggie actually might not have been on the year that beat nebraska that might have been um reggie and santana might have been the year before that that was like shockey and andre johnson and those guys i think i think uh reggie and santana were the year before so who's the alpha dog on Oh man, that's a good question.
They say the guy that made it all work was Dorsey. Dorsey is a wildly competitive guy.
I mean, you saw the video of him trashing the thing. Like, so Dorsey was our OC was our quarterback coach for years in Carolina with me.
So I've known Dorsey for a long time. I bust Dorsey's balls because when I went on my recruiting visit um Eric Winston was my was my host like a we started as a tight end went but they took me to Dorsey's house and they were getting ready to play the national championship he was super serious he never came out of his room stayed in there by himself him and Brett Romberg were the were roommates the center and I years later I'd Dorsey, you know why I went to Notre Dame? Because you didn't even have the fucking balls to come out of your room and say what's up to me on my recruiting visit.
And he's like, that's not true. I said, oh, yeah, your big-ass house with the fish tank? He's like, you were at my house? I'm like, yeah, how else would I know you had that big-ass fish tank in your room? He's like, I'm sorry, man.
I didn't even know you were there. But anyway, Dorsey, Dorsey kept that group running.

He, from everything I had heard, I wasn't there with him,

but from everything, the stories that I'd heard is it took that kind of personality to keep Shockey and Andre

and all these big first round top guys,

like keep them in order.

And he did not hesitate and be like, shut up. Don't tell me again.
You want want the fucking ball you won't see it again the rest of the time do your job i'll get you the ball when you're open and he would like nip it yeah well i mean yeah those teams are all time um serious question uh how's your son doing because i know i mean like yeah when we've had you on in the past we've talked you know, being an organ donor and like getting a little more serious. It's obviously, uh, it feels like it's gone well and it's been a great story.
And it's also something that we just need to remind everyone every few years, like be an organ donor. Cause it saves lives.
No doubt. I mean, he just celebrated on June 4th.
He celebrated his two year anniversary from his heart transplant. He's here.
The, my kids came with my wife for the first time. They'd never been here to TEU, so they're going to come and work out and run around a little bit.
But, yeah, he's doing great. He just finished fourth grade.
Like I said, he's two years past his heart transplant. And to think back to that summer two years ago and how far he's come now, he's 10, is pretty wild.
I mean, he went through hell. I mean, when we tell people the story of the way in which they go about organ procurement and heart transplant specifically, it's a pretty wild ride.
And, yeah, we're just thankful that we had the care that we had, that years ago there was advancements that led to us, and now we're trying as foundation to to fund research and fund programs and care that won't it won't be done in time to help him but we're hoping that in 20 years like someone did 20 years ago for us in 20 years from now they're going to be able to grow those organs they're going to be able to they're going to be able to create you a new heart or new comp you know components to your heart out of your own skin tissue I mean that stuff going on right now across the world. And as scary as it is until you have a kid in that situation,

you're like, damn right. I'll let you grow a new heart.
If it means my kid gets to live,

there's what wouldn't you do? So it's a, there's some really interesting stuff coming down the

pipeline, but, um, that was a wild journey. I mean, it's hard to believe how far he's come.

And it's important to remind people like, cause we had, um, we had a guy come in was, like, probably a few months ago who just had a heart transplant. And one of his, like, in the Make-A-Wish program was to come to Barstool and, like, hang out.
It was an awesome story. And I'm so stupid.
I never realized that, like, he was like, yeah, this is – it's incredible. But, like, in 10 years, I'm going to need a new heart.
And, like, I didn't even think about that. So, like, that's the importance of organ donors.
Like, it's not like, Oh, you get a new heart and then you're good for the rest of your life. You need to get in.
Like people who have this issue need to get new hearts over and over. Like, and that's what's the, that's what the challenge is.
So that what the condition he was born with in some hospitals throughout the country, the immediate treatment is just at the time you're born, they put you on a heart transplant list. They don't try to do any of the other surgeries.
He went through three open heart surgeries to live with a deformed heart that was, it was inefficient, but it was healthy enough that he could live. The reason they do that is because fortunately in America, babies don't die.
Right. Often.
And when they do, it's tragic, but it's fortunately, it doesn't happen a lot. So when you're a newborn infant, you're in the hospital for a year, two years waiting for a heart because there's just not a lot of candidates.
So the idea is get you older, get you bigger, increase your pool of potential candidates. There's always tragedy on the other end of organ donors.
And I think that was something that we as a family, we still talk about with him. We talked about it leading up to it.
Like when we got the call that there was an organ, that there was a heart that was a compatible, that was a match for him. Our immediate excitement, right? In the moment there's that high of like, Oh my God, the moments here, like, let's do it.
And then you take a step back and you're like, there's another family around the country that is in mourning right now. Because in order to be an organ donor, like you have to have brain death.
Like it's a very sudden accident based death. And that's scary, right? That's hard to comprehend.
But to your point, yeah, I mean, this is by no means a quick fix. He had his heart transplant at eight.
The basic math now is they last for like 17 to 20 years. Right.
So he's 25 to 30, you know, give or take in there. And hopefully every year that, that number, you know, 10 years ago, hearts lasted 12 years.
So the length of how they're able to get these hearts to last is increasing, but on average it's give or take, a little less than 20 years. And when you're eight, that puts you at your late 20s.
Maybe you get to 30. You're fresh out of college for a couple of years.
You're trying to get your life started, and bang, you've got to go get another heart transplant and start this all over again. So it's by no means the end of the road, but the life he's living now is disproportionately better than the life he lived before, and that's what we try focus that's awesome that's gonna make you so happy as a dad shout out doctors and science shout out doctors they don't think you're getting a bad rap these days it's been a tough it's been a tough road for some scientists and doctors they're getting they're getting seward in the twitter streets fortunately my experience is cardiothoracic heart surgeons don't live a lot in like twitter verse yes vaccine debate i've been So it's been fortunate they've kind of gotten to stay below the fray.
I've been trying to debate a heart surgeon on this show and nobody will come on the show to debate me. What do you want to debate them? Just about heart medicine.
Yeah. Let's talk about it.
Well, I know way more about heart medicine than they do and they refuse to confront me face to face. Fair enough.
That's unfortunate. That's unfortunate.
I feel like they should come on to debate you. I've got a lot to teach them about heart science.
It's fair. I had a moment not to get into the weeds.
I'm sure people would be pissed at me saying this, but I was in a moment. We were on the road, and I was sitting in a hot tub, and there was a few people debating science.
And they were like, we don't think a certain disease maybe isn't real, and the vaccine isn't real and then they also mentioned that uh he had gotten open heart surgery like three years ago and i was just sitting there being like that's pretty big science dude like open heart surgery it's pretty big science that's if people knew yeah if people knew the series of events that went into pulling off transplants it's insane people would be like there's no fucking i just get mine from joe rogan which is great i mean he has multiple yeah dude baby heart surgeons like those are the the most badass people in the world when my son had his first heart transplant he was two days old he weighed seven and a half pounds call it whatever eight seven and a half whatever he was. A baby's heart is the size of the baby's thumbnail.
Not your thumbnail. The baby's thumbnail is the size of an infant's heart on birth.
It's crazy. Think about that.
It's crazy. It's wild what they're able to do.
Shout out doctors. That's awesome.
That's awesome. I appreciate you asking.
He's doing great. He's here.
I was hoping he was going to barge in the door at any minute. He's running around somewhere with his brother.
How can the listeners get involved? Is there a foundation that they should look at? I'm an organ donor. I have it in my Twitter bio.
It's the biggest flex in the world. I'm an organ.
That's a huge flex. Congrats to you.
Yeah. We've run a program, what we call the hardest yard.
We just celebrated our 10th anniversary. It started as an in-home private nursing thing.

So back in Charlotte, we've now expanded to not only North Carolina, but also in South

Carolina.

So we're a regional center now.

We have a 25,000 square foot comprehensive heart clinic that we funded.

It's in Charlotte.

So we do inpatient work.

We do outpatient work.

We try to, we finance clinical trial, clinical support, clinical studies.

So it's really a multiple approach to all of this, right?

Thank you. we do outpatient work.
We, we try to, we, we finance clinical trial, clinical support, clinical studies. Um, so it's really a multiple approach to all of this, right? There's the acute care, right? How do you provide the best level of care after diagnosis from recovery, following surgery to the best equipment, to the best doctors, to the best follow-up care.
But then there's also the other side of the coin, which is, okay, how do we prevent kids from having this? And what is the perfect fix, right? It's not just, let's not keep putting Band-Aids on these kids and just kicking the can down the road. That's what we've done for the last 30 years to at least get these kids.
You know, 30 years ago, my kid wouldn't have made it past a week. Just there was no chance of survival.
So we've kicked that can now 30 years down the road, but there's still no fix. The transplant, to Big Cat's point, is still not a fix.
It's a temporarily successful process. So that's where a lot of the money and the research is going right now.
So there's a lot of ways. That's what we do at our foundation, The Hardest Yard.
That's what we do back in our region. But there's a similar work going on throughout the entire country, both in the organ procurement component and also just in the cardiac space, specifically with pediatrics.
It's awesome. You're a really good dude, man.
I appreciate you guys. He's probably the best dude we have.
Besides betting on the Super Bowl, besides that, you're a great game. Hank's going to cut that out.
Hank, cut that out. Well, I appreciate that.
You guys have always been... I feel like I have a special place in my heart with you guys.
I mean, we go way back before PMT was even a thing. I'm watching these guys play kickball hungover, Portnoy dressed up in Blackhawks.
Yeah, he was in – Blackhawks lost. Blackhawks beat Bruins, right.
And, like, we have some really cool moments and some funny moments. I remember I was in Chicago when Big Cat got hired.
Yeah. And I remember me and Cutler would always say to Portnoy, like you got barstool, Philly and you got barstool.
It was Boston, Philly and New York. Yeah.
And I was like, how do you not have anything in Chicago? Like this is where all young kids come and whatever. And the next thing you know, I'm watching big cat and like a suit at the side of like a WNBA game, whatever it was.
Yeah. No, it's, it's a long relationship.
What year would you have? Was that 2012? 12. Okay.
It's, it's the coolest part of our job is like meeting people, meeting athletes or like anyone and like getting real relationships and being like having you on is like way better than interviewing some random actor or something. It's the best.
I mean, no, it's true. Like I, we love having friends.
I mean, I do, I'm not going to lie. I get a little jealous like when i see blake bortles on a lot and you have blake of the year and blake griffin and i mean i do get i'm not a blake i'm not a blake i do get a little jealous like when i feel like you guys are cheating on like some of us original yeah that's fair that's fair but i'm not gonna i'm not gonna make it about you're not gonna even talk about i'm not gonna bring it up but i want you to know that I know.
If you change your name to Blake, we would have you on Blake of the Year. That's fair.
I just imagine Greg just watching Blake of the Year, just like the Batman meme, just sitting in bed like, God damn it. Am I going to win? No, asshole, your name's not Blake.
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Not a question, actually. It's a shout out.
I'm going to give a shout out. So I have a guy who helps me with.
That was a great promo read, by the way. Thank you.
That was live. For for anyone listening that was not cut and spliced that was a live markle he's standing it's not a megan markle where hank interviews and then they splice your voice in which would the majority of this interview has been correct yep you're actually in in uh utah right now but continue sorry i don't want to interrupt but that was a great read it's a shout out so i have i have a guy, shout-out VP of Big Cat Corp.
He helps me sometimes with interview prep. So he'll go to the dark recesses.
What? Nothing. Keep going.
I'll have a follow-up. Go ahead.
He goes to the dark recesses of the internet, the corners I don't want to go. Kind of like how you don't go on Twitter after a game.
Yeah. So, like, for example, Reddit.
I think there's a Reddit that probably just bas bashes part of my take diehard fans but every reddit turns into people being like fuck these guys they're not the same so i don't go there for for mental health of course he put he sent me this uh when you were on two years ago it was like greg olson tremendous interview and then the guy named george elliott's cock said greg is going to be great in the booth so shout out george elliott's cock he called it he called wow yeah he called it that's like the brian windhurst thing when he keeps calling all the nba trades in advance and he went viral today on twitter and like people have those memes of him like yeah george elliott's this is george yeah he's like greg olson before you even that's pretty impressive why would he be so good on part of my day he is so good on part of my take and fox maybe is looking at him that's wow george elliot's shout out to george elliot's cock can we just just rewind a couple seconds uh big cap corp can you dive into that vp of big yeah what is this uh he's great dude so when i hear more about big cat corp yeah there is no big is it like a rod corp exactly got it which i know you guys are close so i i incepted my way into into becoming part of that he incepted his way into becoming part of my life and he's actually incredible i he he helps me with prep he goes into these dark corners that i don't want to go in fair brings back all the information and he's actually incredible. He helps me with prep.
He goes into these dark corners that I don't want to go in.

Fair.

Brings back all the information.

And he's like, George Elliott's cock called this.

I would love to know how he ended up on that Reddit page. Right.

I don't want to go look for George Elliott's cock.

You don't want to know the dark wormhole he went down that night.

But the product of that research is helpful.

Yes.

Like, bring me George Elliott's cock. I don't want to go find it.
George Elliott's cock. You bring it bring me george elliott's cock i don't want to go find it george elliott's cock you bring it to me i'll take it and i don't want to go find it i think that's fair i think that's fair it's a very valuable reason who's george elli i don't know i don't know but apparently his cock is fucking no idea no idea but yeah he needs a shout out he's on it he called it he was your biggest fit wait maybe he's george elliott's cock wait a second i don't think i would have predicted he was He's astroturfing called it.
He was your biggest fan. Wait.
Maybe he's George Elliott's cock. Wait a second.
I don't think I would have predicted I was good. Is he astroturfing himself? George Elliott's cock.
I'm like, doesn't Kevin Durant have a rumor? Oh, yeah, yeah. Doesn't Kevin Durant have a burner? Yeah.
I mean, look up who George Elliott is. Yeah, who would do that? Is there a George Elliott? Who is he? Oh, he was a tight ends coach at the University of Miami in 2002.
Weird. So good.
George Eliot was a novelist. That was her pen name.
So he obviously has a gift. It was a female and she went by George Eliot.
Oh. Yeah.
So then the cock makes sense. That makes sense.
It was her third leg. Right.
Exactly. I'll tell you what, the person who came up with that name is a pretty deep thinker because

if it was a female who had a pen name that was male, this random person is the cock that

was the connection between the male.

Wow.

And they called you being a great broadcaster.

And Dan has a great broadcaster, which is obviously the key to the entire picture.

I want him to look up some more of George Eliot's cock tape.

We'll get it.

We're going to do that tonight at dinner.

Are you guys coming tonight to dinner?

We're going to stop by. That means no.
We've got to do the show. That means no.
We have to's Cox tape. We'll get it.
We're going to do that tonight at dinner. Are you guys coming tonight to dinner? We're going to stop by.

That means no.

We've got to do the show.

That means no.

We have to do the show.

Yeah, no, it doesn't mean no.

Who else are you guys interviewing?

Travis Kelsey's coming on.

Travis Kelsey, yeah.

I'm familiar with him.

Dallas Goddard, Pat Fryer.

Do you think Travis Kelsey runs soft?

Do I think he what?

Runs soft.

Would you ever say that to his face?

No, I wouldn't.

All right, Billy's going to have to say it to his face.

Why?

Because he said behind his back.

Behind his backs.

Are you who blew your peck out benching? Who was that? Billy. I saved Billy's life on the big press.
I did strain it. Yeah, okay.
How are you? How did that end up? Not as bad as it looked. Billy's going to be.
That was last year, right? Yeah. Billy's going to be in drills tomorrow.
He almost died. I know you're coming to i remember watching you get under that flat under that straight bar and i thought you ruptured your oh yeah when we were promoting teu no no warm-up hopped under there and 225 yeah uh it was 185 yeah if you blew your peck out 185 that's bad i know i mean you do six push-ups a day you're ready for 185 you're a big guy come on bro yeah so do you want to not blow your peck or you did no i did not i think i strained it i just rested it do you want to tell blake your your take on travis kelsey no so i'm greg but that's fine oh yeah oh sorry yeah well no we're trying to i got it it's fine uh you're in the run you end up talking a lot of shit on podcasts and never really have to like

back it up or like see the person why would you be talking about shit about kelsey what is there to talk shit about because i don't think he runs that like he does get crazy yak but i don't think he like he doesn't run anyone over he like is the idea you got power bombed keep going keep going power bombed did you ever get power bombed in a game if i okay let's let's back up for a second yeah what we have to make sure we're clear on is that the goal of the game is not to see who can be the most like macho i'm gonna sacrifice yards to just like prove a point to twitter that i'm like the toughest guy in the building the idea of the game is to get a lot of yards yeah so if the so if the critique of kelsey is that gets so many yards, but I'd rather him get less yards and run more people over, that seems to be a bit bizarre. I think what he does is obviously pretty damn good.
Yeah. And I don't know if that's necessarily a fair criticism.
So you wouldn't call him soft. I wouldn't.
I just think if he wants to solidify his legacy. He's going to cut.
So you can ask him, which is great. I know this is going to be really bad.
Solidify his legacy in what regard? I don't know. You think that people are going to hold.
You think when the Hall of Fame voters. Travis Kelsey's up for debate.
Anyone have any knocks? He holds every NFL record. He'll be like, no, he didn't run enough people over in 2017.
You got powerbombed that one time? I just would like to see him do it.

Who powerbombed him? Oh, it's Derwin James,

right? Yeah. But I mean, I'm not

taking Billy's side of this. It's just

funny that Billy's like, when all is said

and done about his legacy,

you're going to be the one to define

Travis Kelsey's legacy.

It comes up in the him versus Gronk

debate.

The debate that we all have. The debate that we haven't had yet.
That's just taking over the nation. This is one of the debates that I've had.
Every water cooler in America is like, hey, Gronk or Kelsey. So who you got? Oh, in the Gronk versus Kelsey? I've said on record, if Kelsey has another even year or two, like the last seven, in he goes down as the best ever okay I think he's this close and I never in a million years would have thought anyone would ever catch Gonzalez Tony's longevity and production and consistency over what he 18 years with 17 whatever he played what I never thought anyone would ever match.
For Kelsey to go seven years in a row at 1,000 yards, plus the production and what he does in the playoffs, which doesn't count towards any of that, but he sets a record every single year in the postseason, but that doesn't go towards his stats. Right.
I don't know how anybody could – I never thought anyone we'd see the day where anyone would, would challenge Tony for that top spot. And I think Kelsey's a year or two away from doing it.
Okay. All right.
I think I agree. And that's not a knock on Gronk.
I think Gronk's in that conversation. Longevity matters.
But I just, I think for, for Kelsey to do it this long is pretty impressive. All right.
Craig, thank you always you're the best man you guys are awesome okay mount rushmore time today we are doing the mount rushmore of everyday villains so these are real people you come across in your everyday life doesn't have to be every day but it's someone that you have come across that is just out there being a villain that pisses you off that makes you mad you're like fuck this guy so not fictional villains which we did a few years ago a group of guys that gets together and do a bunch of cheesy trick shots on videos all the time or a group of guys who gets together and like gets way too drunk and then goes to a d competition. Those actually aren't the villain.
It's the guy who decided not to go. That bails.
And goes to the beach. That's an everyday villain.
Does it have to be a person? No. No.
It doesn't have to be human. Oh, I'm so excited about this.
Well, let's just wait. Let's just see what you got.
The majority of our list is not human. Okay.
All right. Let's go.
How? No all right i'm excited too do you guys you guys good yeah we'll just we'll work we're gonna help you guys through this and i think the rule that we made when we did the uh mount rush war of manly things i'm willing i think that as a as a crew we're willing to give you two shots at your fourth pick. Yeah, I am.
So you guys could throw two options out. We'll pick the best one.
We'll pick the best one for you. Okay? That kind of gives you the chance to go rogue, you know, whatever you want to do.
The Dominion voting system. Yeah.
Okay. I don't know how it's not people, but that's fine.
That's fine. Okay our first pick let's go all right here's our first pick our first pick is the person who uh listens to music or their instagram stories on super loud in public everyday villain use headphones the worst yep use headphones you're right the worst it could be anywhere it could be the subway could be uh you know walking down the street could be in your office just fucking i actually think weirdly instagram stories might be worse than music because music at least you can be like all right well i know this song when it's the like different sounds every 10 seconds scrolling drives me insane i i hate those people way more than I hate people on a sidewalk

that have a boombox

and they're just walking with their portable speaker system.

That's a vibe. If you're on public transportation

and it's just coming out of your phone.

It's not even high quality sound. It's bad.

Yes. What's the official wording?

People who

listen to

music slash Instagram stories

on speakerphone in public.

Say it, Billy.

Well, go ahead.

Big head, you're very guilty of that.

When did I do that?

Like, when?

I mean, I'm sure I have, but when do I do that?

Like, in the studio?

Yeah, probably.

You're right.

In the studio's not really public.

That's not really public. But yeah, I don't do it in public.
I yeah, you're right. I thought you were about to say me.
You were giving me the money. No.
Like I do it. In studio is not really.
I was thinking. I mean, when we're sitting around and we're all scrolling on our phone, I would.
Yeah, of course, I'm guilty of that. But Billy's looking around for everyone to be like, yes, but that's not really public.
I'm going to walk this back. Well, no, it's fine.
Listen, i listen i hand up i do do it not in public but i will do it in the privacy of my home or when we're sitting in the studio getting ready and i'm you know i will also play videos on my computer when i'm we're prepping for the show that's that guilty guilty i'm not really bothered by in that situation no not at me nuts. I'm just kidding.
Okay. I'm very excited about you guys.
Oh, yeah. Why don't you go first, Jake? Are you going human or non-human? Human.
Human. Okay.
Human. Okay.
No one specifically, but your boss. Your boss.
All right. That's actually a good point.
So you're coming at me. Okay.
I got it. For you.
I'm Jake and Billy. I'm Jake and Billy's.
No, just like in general. You're like, ah.
I'm not actually Jake and Billy's boss. I think you are Jake's boss.
I think I'm Billy's boss. Well, no, I filled out.
I had to do a performance review for Billy and Jake last year. And I submitted.
I think I submitted Jake's. And very nice, great kid, whatever.
Sucks him out Rushmore. Sounds, sucks him out Rushmore.
And then it said I submitted, it was like this submission has gone to all parties. And it was like, it listed like Jake, Erica, this.
So then it was Billy's. I just trashed him.
And I was like, it's going right to Billy. This is is great.
I actually never saw it. I followed up with Erica.
I was like, that was a joke one. I hope Billy gets upset.
And I backed you up. I don't actually remember seeing that.
Okay, so it didn't work. So they duped me.
Okay, your boss. Just like in general.
Right. Like cubicle.
Ah, so boss.

Boss.

Yeah.

Boss man.

Okay.

We are going to go with the people that are disrespectful to people in the service industry.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good pick.

We had it.

We had it.

You're in public.

You're chirping the person at the register.

You're in a restaurant or wherever you are. It's like that's not, you know, you're taking out your problems on people that don't deserve it everyday villain sending back food like multiple times yep and then we will go with the person that walks too slow in front of you that's another good pick a great pick good picks guys happens a lot in new york with tourists what about yeah for like you know late night on the on on the road with a with a woman with a Women.
What? Women? With a multiple? What do you do? Oh, you run past them and whisper, on your right?

No, no. You let them know that you're not stalking them or you go to the other side of the street.
Was that a Mount Rushmore pick? It might have been, yeah. I think he's got a discussion about avoiding women late at that time.
Which just makes it so much awkward. More awkward.
Have you guys been there where you're like, hey, just so you know, i'm not following you yeah i just cross the street yeah you can cross the street but yeah or if sometimes you cross the street and someone's have you ever crossed street then someone's on that side they think you're crossing for them it's like nope and then cross the other way slightly get up on their left and i hand them a can of mace and i'm like you're gonna want this and i keep walking just run down the center of the road yeah you know what a good move is on an elevator if it's like late at night in your apartment building or hotel you as a guy you want to let the woman out of the hotel or out of the uh out of the elevator first out of the hotel you want to let the cage yeah you want to let that you want you want to let them out of the elevator first as a gentleman but it's actually way better if you don't know the person. You get out first.
That way they don't think that you're following them. Yeah.
Yeah. Facts.
Okay. Good picks.
Thank you. Jake, Billy.
We going human or non-human? Got to go non-human. I just thought of two on the fly.
I'm going to see if Billy approves of any of them. Go rogue.
Go rogue. No, we got to go non-human.
I'm down. Go rogue.
Do you like to do those? Yeah. Actually, maybe not both of them.
Which one? The first one. People who get up in the aisle right when the plane lands.
Yes. Big time villain move.
Here you go, Jake. I just.
Yeah. You're getting the hang of this.
I just didn't even think of the topic. Don't overthink of it.
Yeah. Yeah.
You're getting the hang of this. I'll read our honorable mentions, the non-human ones.
If they don't get picked. If they don't get picked.
All right, PFT. All right, for ours.
I think six is a no-brainer. Oh, no, no mind.
Yeah, we have two. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, six is. Whatever you want for the next one.
Yep. All right.
Why don't you surprise me? I'll go six and you surprise me. Trust.
This is our second pick overall? Yeah, I'll go second pick and then you go with whatever. Surprise me.
Big trust. Okay okay uh all right our next pick is going to be aggressive bicyclists so uh you know stay in your lane they think that their cars going through red lights uh especially in new york city when you like step on the curb and they're just fucking aggressive bicyclists are everyday villains it's bullshit that they they use the we're cars yeah then also we can go through red lights.
It's absolute bullshit. They cut you off.
They yell at you. Yeah.
The everyday villains all the time. Same vein.
Those like electric scooter people who ride on the sidewalk. I almost got nailed twice by those guys.
And I just go ballistic. Yeah, you just sit there like, God damn it.
No, I yell at them and they freaking zoom away because they know they can get away and on the other side of that is the uh the electric motorcycle bicycle thing yeah that rides in the bike lane and then cuts the bicyclists off yeah they're like the car they're the car version of that yeah or the or even the new new age bikes that ride in the car lane yeah and they go slow and and they're like, I'm a car. Like, whatever one step below a moped is, those are the worst.
Okay. All right.
Big trust. Big trust.
For our next one, we're going to go with doorstop package thieves. Yes.
People that they follow the Amazon truck around, then they come up on on your doorstep and they steal your package that's as as a new homeowner myself they're the bane of my existence they're everywhere there are ultimate villains that never get caught yep and they know they they probably hate themselves for doing it too yeah you can't delude yourself into thinking that that's cool what they're doing and they still do it yeah the best. The best is, I mean, if they ever stole from me, it's just they're probably stealing diapers.

So fuck you.

Yeah.

Well, what they do is they slice into it and then they get around the corner.

They're like, oh, these are a bunch of novelty, ironic signs that somebody was going to hang

up in their house and they don't want it.

So they throw into the bushes.

Oh, I don't want JNCOs.

Yeah.

Get this out of here.

Yeah.

No, that's that's I have the last laugh on the doorstop packaging. I never order anything that they would want.
All right. You guys have a pick.
We're going to go with a. So this is a little controversial.
A cop on a power trip. OK.
All right. OK.
Put the turtles down. Pull over.
What are you doing? You know, I back the boys in blue I respect our art They put their lives on the line Every day for us Back the blue So they're not villains to me Ever Back the blue except when it happens to you Except when you're trying to rob turtles And sell them on the black market Like like when a cop's like hey hey son what are you doing with all this cocaine right you're like officer why are you on this power trip why are you trying to fuck me up right now this is bullshit all right you have your last two picks we do have our last two picks we are going to go with the person that drives up your ass so kind of like the reverse of the person that walks through slow. Fucking amen.
Tailgating, yeah. Tailgate driver.
You're not in that much of a hurry. I never understood road rage.
And it's not that serious. Some people get road rage so bad that they just want to fight you because they don't like what your car looks like.
I never understood road rage, but God damn it, do I love watching road rage videos. Oh, yeah.
It is the best. it is the best yeah i saw you guys see the chick the other day yeah who like power bombed the front front windshield yeah she stomped through it yep she's like a power lifter too yeah she just stomped on it and she's like she's on anadrol yeah or like anytime there's a road rage and like one guy's clearing the wrong and he tries

to fight and he just gets knocked out and you're like yes or like one guy runs out with the bat and then the other guy pops out with a gun and then the other guy just tucks his tail and like runs back to his car i was in an uber the other day and we were just stopped at a light for like 10 15 minutes and and me and the person i was with were like oh can you know is there another route you could take he's like no and then he started to get mad that it was taking so long and he just completely took matters into his own hand and split a two a two car street and like in a in a way that physically seemed impossible like he just split the difference and then like was you know speeding up doing like fast and furious shit and then we got on the highway and it was like we did ask for that yeah but i thought i was gonna die yeah uh okay. Yeah.
Okay. Good picks.
You guys have your last pick. Our last pick, we are going to go with the person who has loud phone conversations in public.
Ooh. Okay.
Okay. On the train, in an airport, wherever you are, if they're yelling their business over the phone, it's the worst.

I always appreciate, though,

when they're at least looking at a phone while they do it.

Sometimes people have the Bluetooth,

they have the earbuds in,

and they're just having a conversation.

You have no idea what's going on.

You're like, are they talking to themselves?

Are they mad at me?

At least pretend to look at your phone so I know that's where the conversation is.

What was that, Big Cat?

Were you playing a video loud?

Yeah, I was. When I clicked on a photo, it started playing.
Classic big cat. I didn't expect it to go.
You know, photos having sound always will fuck me up. Live photos.
You hit it and you're just like, what the fuck? I was trying to heart it. Gotcha.
It happens. It happens.
Okay. You guys have your last pick? Going rogue.
Politicians. okay why do they want all that power pick can you name Donald Trump want them second place in that one specific yeah Nancy Pelosi Joe Biden AOC he doesn't know what he's doing.
Everyday politicians. RFK Jr.

Alphabet boys.

What did you think about RFK Jr.?

He's just jacked.

Okay.

Wait, who are the alphabet boys?

Sounds like you just hate government, Billy.

Yeah, the government.

You hate all authority.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Your boss, politicians, cops.

Cops, yeah.

People that you... Billy might have an issue with authority.
People that you have to lie to or else you get in trouble. This is documented.
Okay, PFT, we have one last one. I think we go with the last one on the list.
Ooh, okay. Unless you think otherwise.
No, yeah, we can. That's a good fourth pick.
That's a good fourth pick. What? You should go at number six.
I think we already picked number six. We did pick number six, yeah.
Maybe four. Okay, fine.
You want us to go four? Yeah, go four. I mean, this is great because you guys are just driving our Mount Rushmore so deep.
It still works. They're way better at our Mount Rushmore than they are at their Mount Rushmore.
Seriously. The fourth pick is a person who uses constant business lingo.
Circle back. Put a pin in this.
What's the net net? All that stuff. Let's table that.
Yeah. Just like, hey, can we hop on a quick call? Nothing worse than a text.
Can we hop on a quick call? Just text me. Just text me.
Those are people that like don't treat other people like people because they're so corporate lingo right right like talk to me like a person dude right exactly hank we've been out of the out of the business world for a while can you can you upload us on some new business terms yeah circle back's a big one checking in same page oh oh there's nothing worse than the than the email being like checking in it's so passive aggressive being like you haven't responded oh what about what about what about per my last email falling up here yeah oh god that's i mean are you in hell every day yeah i mean it's it's been nice being out of the office i'll say that, invention idea. An AI bot that translates other people's lingo into your dialect.
Yeah. How would that work? What would Circle Back be? Circle Back be like, yo, remember? Nice.
Nice. Nice.
Yo, remember that thing? Billy, I want you to do this as a blog. Can you please do that Billy is the AI robot okay what did we miss so the one that we were going to pick was a guy who coaches Duke Blue Devils for 40 years and then mysteriously has a back injury when his team's bad everyday everyone hates that guy we all know that guy right but we didn't pick it because we let jake pick our last one that's good vladimir putin straight up villain yeah yeah yeah um person who aggressively hits on members of the opposite sex in front of you and makes everybody uncomfortable big time a guy who doesn't pick up after their dog that's everyday villain uh anytime you step in dog shit here's one that might be a little controversial but i I'll just say it.
Uber driver that talks too much. Like way too much of a conversation, you know.
Just trying to do their job. I know.
But there's definitely pleasantries are great. But doing a full conversation, especially when you're not in the mood to converse.
Yeah, they got to read the room. If you're giving them one word answers.
It's basically the read the room. Because there are some times when you have a cool Uber driver, just like, I want to know his story, having a good conversation.
But there's definitely some times, specifically when we take early flights. If I'm in an Uber at 6.30 in the morning, I don't want to have a conversation.
I had a great conversation my way back from the airport the other week, which I appreciated. But about six months ago, I had azy of an uber driver who i got into his car and he immediately starts playing me his cd of music that he made and it was a combination every song was a different genre so he's like this is my country song and then he's like this is my hip-hop song that i'm trying out and i was just like dude i don't know you have me hostage at this point.
And I was like, so yeah, you should put these like on Spotify or whatever. He's like, yeah, I was thinking about getting into the music industry, but I flew out to LA and this dude was supposed to manage me.
And he brought me to his hotel room and just tried to fuck me. It was, it was the worst Uber drive of my entire, I don't think he'd be topped.
I don't want to hear that guy's story. If you have a great story, I'm down.
That's not a great story, though. What, having your 2B manager try to fuck you in a hotel room in LA? Well, he very clearly misread the tea leaves.
Some guy picked him up online. He was like, oh, this guy's going to help my budding musical career.
And then just try to fuck him. We should find this guy.
Yeah, I mean, yeah. That's wild.
But his music was, it was so bad bad all i wanted was for one song to be like halfway decent where i could pretend to really enjoy it it was it was the worst i had an uber driver once who told me just completely unannounced was like hey do you eat yellow cheese i was like yeah why he's like don't eat yellow cheese only white cheese and it's something that i've thought about probably once a week every day if you got every week for like the last three years uber black you can yeah oh yeah i do that conversation no cool extra cool no conversation yeah but yeah don't eat yellow cheese that's what he told me yeah what's the artificial dye right so white cheese only yeah i think about it way too often it did has real estate in my brain i it's like yellow five. Every time I go to eat yellow cheese, I'm like, remember that fucking Uber driver coming from LaGuardia? He said, only eat white cheese.
The person who never pays for anything. Big time.
That's a villain. The person who's like, oh, you owe me $7.64.
It doesn't need to be penny for penny. Just like, yeah.
So they start itemizing appetizers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Similar to that.

The person who, if your work offers free dinner on Sunday nights, who texts at like 10 a.m.

being like, what's for dinner, bros?

And then somebody replies, hey, maybe let's get this burrito place close to the office.

And they're like, can we do Chipotle instead?

And it's only because they get the points for Chipotle when they order it.

Yeah. So they're trying to control everybody else's dinner based on them getting their free Chipotle instead? And it's only because they get the points for Chipotle when they order it.
Yeah.

So they're trying to control everybody else's dinner based on them getting their free Chipotle points.

That guy.

Everyday villain.

All right.

How many of you have gotten food poisoning from that place that we always like the.

No.

Zero.

Zero.

Dude, you've had to leave recordings to go shit yourself.

He has a bad stomach.

But it's every time we order from that one place that isn't Chipotle.

Right.

And the points. Manly traits.
And you get and you get some points make it easy for everybody no it's easy for you no it's so much easier to order because then you can send for everybody shared order no yeah hand up i'll take that also there's a little meme about when the chipotle hits yeah people ship themselves from chipotle all the time that's true yeah but it's not like sickness that's just like natural yeah that's just some people are lactose intolerant chipotle just do its work uh i also had we also had uh anyone at the dmv that's just i mean i don't even blame them they're just they're there to just be villains and then uh pft had homeowners association. That's a great one.

Hate homeowners associations.

Yeah.

You buy a house and they're like, you can't paint your door that color.

There's never been a president of a homeowners association that isn't on a power trip.

Yep.

That's just in the line of work that they do.

You need to cut your grass.

Oh, yeah.

All right.

Non-humans.

Let's go.

Traffic.

Traffic.

Yeah.

That's a good pick. Let's go.
Traffic.

That's a good pick.

That's a great pick.

You should have picked that one.

Yeah, you should have picked that one.

Traffic is an awesome pick.

It's a villain.

That's a great pick.

We're telling you it's a good pick.

Yeah, it was number one on my list.

What else? What did you guys pick one?

Your boss. You could swap it.
Okay. All right.
What else? Allergies. Allergies? For me, it's an everyday villain.
Yeah. Low phone battery.
Okay. Everyday villain.
Yeah. Dirty dishes.
Okay. You know, for low phone battery, I would say an iPhone charger cable that's on the fritz, but it's not totally dead yet.
So you never know if you're plugging in, if you're going to get that charge, and you start to do the thing where you unplug, replug, hoping to catch it. Hate that.
We should just do a Mount Rushmore, things that piss you off. I think we've done that, yeah.
Probably. At Peeves, yeah.
We also had spam phone callers. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, they're back. Usually, is it from your guys' hometown area code most of the time? They spoof a number that's very close to what your phone number is.
Yeah. So, yeah, we went rogue for three quarters of this.
You should have gone traffic. That was all on our own.
Such a good pick, Jake. That might have been your best pick of the Mount Rushmore season.
Should we let him have traffic? No, I don't want it. I play by the rules.
I think you get to trade traffic for one. You can take one out.
Can't be cops. Have to keep cops in.
You decide. What do you want to swap? On a power trip.
Which one do you want to swap? Go ahead. All cops against Billy.
ACAB. I don't know.
I want to play by the rules. I don't want this.
Jake, it's not not we're telling you it's fine you want to swap one out read your picks your boss people who get up in the aisle right when the plane lands a cop on a power trip and politicians I love our Mount Rushmore there is an insane thunderstorm we should not be able to hit the pillow tonight knowing that we had an advantage. We should actually put a fourth Mount Rushmore graphic in there.
That is your exact picks except with traffic substituted for one of them. See how that does.
No. Listen, we're playing loose for the rest of the season.
The team is on the floor. We're like the Lions of last year.
Like, not much to play for, but. No, come on.
I mean, they could have made the playoffs. We go hard as fuck.
Yeah. You go hard as fuck.
Yeah. Yeah.
But people, yeah. They're entertaining.
They're entertaining. Yeah.
Okay. Good Mount Rushmore.
Okay. That was the show.
Great show. Everyone.
Should we do, we got, we got some good guests coming on Wednesday. Some maybe new guests and a recurring guest for some British Open talk.
Open championship. My fault.
The Open Championship. The Open Championship.
Numbers. C9.
That was PFT. No, no, no.
That was PFT. Check, check, check.
That was PFT. Check, check.
I was looking at your face. Light travels faster than sound.
That was PFT. I saw your mouth.
Memes is making the call. Memes says 69.
Are you fucking... Light travels faster than sound, Bill.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I saw his face.
He said numbers. I said 69.
And that's just, you know. Okay.
So PFT has 69. That's bullshit.
Yeah, I'll take 69. That's bullshit.
I'm going to go with 88. I'm going to go with...
That's... Patrick Kane.
17. 1.
Actually, I'll go with 26.

This is bullshit.

20. I'm going to go with 21.

Memes and Viewer got this? No.

Oh, no. Really?

No, never. But you've been on the

show for a while.

Yeah.

That's too bad.

35. Thank God.
That's too bad 35 35

4th time

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