George Kittle, Mt Rushmore Of Famous Football Plays, NBA Draft And Chris Paul Traded To The Warriors

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Speaker 1 Experienced. On today's part of my take, we have our good friend George Kittle

Speaker 1 from his compound.

Speaker 1 He's got a compound in Nashville, whole gym. We went and visited him.
We did a great interview with him, talked about everything, and then we did a Mount Rushmore with him.

Speaker 1 George is taking Jake's place for just this Mount Rushmore, teaming up with Billy. We did the Mount Rushmore of famous football plays.
We're going to talk NBA draft.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk Chris Paul to the Warriors, Marcus Smart to the Grizzlies. We've got Jared the Subway Guy, Doc, Review, and Fire Fest of the Week.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, June 23rd.
And PFT,

Speaker 1 welcome to Wembentonio.

Speaker 3 That was great, wasn't it? Marty Smith got dressed up like a kid getting dressed up like Kid Rock for Halloween. And it was actually more Joe Dirt.

Speaker 3 It was like Kid Rock as a child getting dressed up like Joe Dirt for Halloween, shaved Wimbinyama's face into the back of his head. And

Speaker 3 just went out there and delivered a speech for the ages at half court in San Antonio.

Speaker 1 Marty Smith seems like the nicest guy in the world.

Speaker 1 And I don't think this is a knock on him because I think he just gets sent out by ESPN to do these type of things where they're like, hey, we're going to do a funny hit from anywhere in the south.

Speaker 1 Send Marty Smith.

Speaker 1 I hate the word cringe, but that moment when he turned and he held it for extra long and was like, check it out. See, it's Wembin Yama in the back of my head.
Wembantonio.

Speaker 1 It was, it took my breath away. So that was,

Speaker 1 it was something. It was, it was, it was quite something.

Speaker 3 Actually, rent-free, like literally living rent-free in the back of Marty Smith's head.

Speaker 3 I wouldn't be surprised if Nick Wright had LeBron just constantly stenciled, probably tattooed onto the tattoo's head.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
Well, he's got, I saw there's these new tattoos, which we got to check out, PFT. Maybe that's, maybe we do that for the

Speaker 1 Commander's Bears bet. Someone hit me up.
There's new tattoos that last for three years. Maybe Nick Wright just does LeBron in his different jersey,

Speaker 1 knowing that he won't be there for more than three years. So

Speaker 1 he doesn't have to worry about it. They need to make one for six or for four days for Chris Paul.

Speaker 3 For Chris Paul, I did. I was on my way to the tattoo parlor today because I'm going to get a tattoo plaid half sleeve and I was going to add Chris Paul on there as well right before I ran my marathon.

Speaker 3 And then fortunately, I turned Woge notifications on. So

Speaker 3 what an era in DC sports. Not the Chris Paul era.
I'd say if the Wizards win a ring, he should get one. Chris Paul should get a championship ring.

Speaker 1 You did that. You went to the tattoo parlor in the tandem bike that we're going to ride around Manhattan as well, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was awesome. It was uh, it was a whimsical journey.

Speaker 1 It's light when it's only one of you.

Speaker 3 Well, it's been rained every Friday in New York since we made that arrangement back in 2020.

Speaker 1 It's been wild, it's gonna rain tomorrow. Um, so yeah, NBA draft tonight.

Speaker 1 Uh, what are I mean, the big takeaways are there's a lot of guys that play in the G-League and like overtime elite that I never watched play college ball, and so when their names pop up, I'm like, wait, did I?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, he's played, he played in you know, for the Juice or the Elite or some other team.

Speaker 1 Grady Dick's whole outfit, I actually am a big fan of because if your name's Grady Dick, you have to find a way to make your outfit so loud that people will point to the outfit before they point to your last name.

Speaker 1 So I thought that was actually a very heady play by him.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, if you're a dick, you have to look as much like a vagina as possible. That way people forget what your actual last name is.

Speaker 3 It was a great suit. I liked it a lot.

Speaker 3 It gave off like David Bowie vibes. If David Bowie was the singer of the talking heads,

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 3 it was a good look. Grady Dick, I didn't realize how strong his TikTok game was.
I did a little perusing of old Grady.

Speaker 3 He's a big dancer. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. He's a big dancer.
He got like the whole team involved in his TikTok last year.

Speaker 3 There should be, I was actually, no, no, I was going to say there should be a baby Gronk version of him, but then that would.

Speaker 1 Baby Dick. That would be Baby Diggs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we already have him. He makes one-handed catches all the time in Buffalo.
He looks fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 Yeah, baby digs, not baby dick.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 So NBA draft, should we go, let's go around and everyone say their favorite draft pick? I think that's the best way to do it. Okay.
Because,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 look, the NBA draft,

Speaker 1 they try to make it a big deal, kind of like the NFL draft. There's a pretty big difference.

Speaker 1 Not as many people watch college basketball as college football. And also a lot of the guys in the NBA draft only play one year in college basketball.

Speaker 1 Whereas in the NFL draft, it feels like you've been watching these guys for years and years and years.

Speaker 1 It's still fun. It's still like it is, there are these heartwarming moments.
The fact that there were twins back-to-back was fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 And everyone's like watching these guys realize their dream is very cool. And my biggest takeaway,

Speaker 1 excuse me, my biggest takeaway was Michigan didn't make the tournament.

Speaker 1 And they had two,

Speaker 1 I think, lottery picks.

Speaker 1 and it wasn't two lottery picks, but two first-rounders and also had

Speaker 1 All-American Center. They didn't make the tournament.
Those are always the interesting times when it's like you see a loaded team get picked and you're like, wait, they weren't in the tournament?

Speaker 1 That's weird.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Juwan Howard's the new coach Cal. That is what made me feel really, really old was Juwan Howard has a son that just got drafted in the NBA.
Yes. At that point, it's like, okay,

Speaker 3 I'm officially washed. Officially, officially.
Until this very moment, I thought that there was a chance I could play in the NBA at some point.

Speaker 3 And then when you see the son of a guy that you remember getting drafted also getting drafted,

Speaker 3 that's tough.

Speaker 1 It wasn't even the fact that he got drafted. That was like a moment like, oh, shit.
Cause obviously I knew he was on the team last year at Michigan.

Speaker 1 It was when they told the anecdote that he used to play

Speaker 1 like hoops when Juwan was on the heat. That was Juwan Howard's last thought.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like it wasn't even, it was it was like yeah he you know he really came into it you know like he he really got to be around a bunch of pros in 2010.

Speaker 3 that hurt juwan howard is an all-time bag getter in the in the nba if you look at his contract that he got jesus that dude's agent is a

Speaker 3 genius yeah he got like 150 million dollars guaranteed when dudes were not getting over 100 million dollars guaranteed yeah he made 150 million in his entire NBA career.

Speaker 1 All right, should we do best picks? Favorite picks?

Speaker 3 I like Wimbinyama, big cat. Okay, nice.

Speaker 3 I give that grade. I give that an A.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 A, not an A plus.

Speaker 3 No, I give that an A. I give Grady Dick to Toronto an A, but it's EH.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 I'll go with my best pick.

Speaker 1 Jaime Jaquez to the heat, like

Speaker 1 perfect heat culture.

Speaker 1 He's going to have a series series probably next nba playoffs where you know he somehow averages like 25 points a game out of nowhere that and maybe it's a little bit of a distortion where remember when the spurs had their run and every time they drafted anyone you're like oh perfect spur um so it could be just a cult but i obviously watching him forever at ucla he is the perfect heat culture guy and he will be he'll be a very good player in the nba because he got drafted by the heat it's like when when the ravens draft anybody on defense in the first round.

Speaker 3 It's like, oh, shit, we all forgot about that guy. Yeah, that guy is definitely going to be a fit in Miami.

Speaker 3 I think Brandon Miller is kind of a genius because

Speaker 3 they interviewed him the other day and he said that his GOAT, his favorite player in NBA history is Paul George.

Speaker 3 That to me tells me he's thinking two steps ahead because he knew that Charlotte wanted to draft him. They asked him who your favorite player in NBA history is.

Speaker 3 That tells me his favorite player is LeBron, and he knew that he could not say that it was LeBron James because Michael Jordan is still very much involved in the draft process for Charlotte, even though he sold the team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which makes no sense.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he was still like the one making decisions, which, yeah, makes zero sense whatsoever.

Speaker 3 But Brendan Miller knew that he couldn't say my favorite player is LeBron because then Jordan would be like, fuck you, I'm not drafting you, just out of spite.

Speaker 1 See, I thought it was a similar situation to the Grady Dick suit where he says Paul George, and then every interview he does after that, they don't talk about what happened at Alabama.

Speaker 1 They're like, hey, because, you know, this is how the internet works. Everyone wants to get the viral clip.
They're like, hey, do you really think it's Paul George?

Speaker 1 So he basically just shifted the entire narrative where he's the Paul George as the GOAT guy instead of everything that happened in Alabama.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, it's a twofer. I think it was a genius move on his part.
Everybody was like, this guy's insane. No, no, he's so sane that you are the ones that are insane for not realizing that.

Speaker 1 That was a great move on his part if you guys were a front office though in the hornets and you're an analytics nerd imagine getting an argument with michael jordan and being like we should take this person and he's like no that no i'm michael jordan and i'm micha jordan that is why the hornets have not been very good i would say right but what are you supposed to do no you can't do anything you can't do anything how many times has has uh an equation won six nba titles exactly never never well i guess it was triangle offense yeah All right.

Speaker 1 Hank, what's your favorite pick? My favorite pick, it was going to be Brandon Miller. I'll go with Scoot Henderson.
I just liked, I like the outrage that came with that pick.

Speaker 1 I feel like part of it is just it wouldn't have mattered who the Hornets took, their fans were going to be mad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I like having the, it's kind of, you know, I like having the debate and the freak out videos.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, Jalen Hurts got drafted, Chris Saps Porzingis, like there was all these epic freakout videos. And then when they're good, people are like, oh, yeah, you look like an idiot.

Speaker 1 I was throwing like the turmoil.

Speaker 3 I'm throwing Jalen Hurts right there. Just curious.

Speaker 3 A different sport. Why'd you throw in Jalen Hurts?

Speaker 1 Well, I was just thinking of the Nadu video

Speaker 1 of him. Daniel Jones.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. People freaking out and then having, and then having him be good.
I also like Scoot Henderson.

Speaker 1 Every, every draft analyst has been like, so yeah, maybe he's not great at shooting, but he's got that dog.

Speaker 1 They all have to say that subtly, like, yeah, he's not a great shooter, but he's a competitor, and he's going to win. And his name's Scoot.

Speaker 3 You can get better at shooting. You can't change your name to Scoot after you get drafted.
That's true.

Speaker 3 What they say on draft night is what you're going to be stuck with.

Speaker 1 Water World Peace. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Max, what's your favorite?

Speaker 4 I almost don't even want to say it because it's bullshit, but Cam Whitmore going 20 is, I guess, the best value of the draft.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, Villanova.

Speaker 4 I mean, Villanova is the most year in and year out. They get disrespected in the draft every year, and then they outperform their expectations time and time again.

Speaker 4 So I guess this will just be another case.

Speaker 1 Okay, another chip on your shoulder. Jake, do you have a favorite pick?

Speaker 5 Yeah, besides Jamie Hawkey to the heat, like you mentioned,

Speaker 5 good for Jordan Hawkins getting a lottery pick, the final lottery pick, going from national championship at UConn to lottery pick.

Speaker 5 What a run in terms of three months for that for him and Coach Hurley.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
Good pick by the Pelicans. and then, Billy, pull up the draft real quick, let's hear it.

Speaker 6 No, um, my real surprise is like how crazy that in the top seven picks, five aren't from college basketball.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, yeah, like

Speaker 6 what's going wrong?

Speaker 7 What's wrong with the American system? You know, well, some of them are American, there are

Speaker 1 American systems. There are

Speaker 1 selling

Speaker 1 right, five out of selling, right?

Speaker 3 Also, I think that Victor Wimbanyama might not be as French as he lets on.

Speaker 3 He speaks real good English.

Speaker 3 Real good English.

Speaker 1 Better than us.

Speaker 3 Definitely better than us. He definitely spells better than I do.
How French can you really be if your name is Victor? That's not, to me, that's not a

Speaker 3 French word at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 They don't know the definition of that.

Speaker 1 All right. So good, yeah.
So not a pick, Billy, just a thought.

Speaker 1 Just a thought. Okay, I like that.
Thoughts on the draft.

Speaker 3 Are the Mets, are the French Mets, are they like the angels in baseball where they've got the two best players by far, and then they just can't win a championship?

Speaker 1 So I was listening to Windhorse. I think it was on his podcast

Speaker 1 last week. He was saying that the team, they basically built an entire team to get Victor Wembanyama like better ready for the NBA.

Speaker 1 Like they got rid of like all their old guys and brought in young guys just so he could practice harder and longer and like and and you know the guys guys could push him.

Speaker 1 And so it was like, and he was telling a story about

Speaker 1 the actual team facility is like a wreck gym that ESPN, when they did their photo shoot with Victor Wembanyama,

Speaker 1 rented out the gym so the team couldn't practice that day.

Speaker 3 I don't hate that strategy because they've never had as much advertisement for their team as they had today.

Speaker 3 But getting two players in the top 10 is incredible.

Speaker 1 I guess the team might not even, I don't know if they have relegation in French basketball, but like the team might not exist anymore after he leaves.

Speaker 1 So it was like all built just as a way to get him better ready for NBA basketball.

Speaker 3 I also just love the fact that they're called the Mets.

Speaker 1 That's such a good thing. Is it like the Mets 96 or something?

Speaker 3 Mets 92?

Speaker 1 92.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Mets 92.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Boulongne, Lavoie. Metropolitan's 92.
Sorry for my French. Pardon my French.

Speaker 3 That was good, Jake.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Because there's all NBA in the news, should we talk about, let's do Marcus Smart first.

Speaker 1 Marcus Smart got traded to the Grizzlies. Hank was very sad, lashed out at max.

Speaker 1 The Grizzlies got,

Speaker 1 so it was a three-way trade. The Celtics got Chris Stops.

Speaker 1 Who went to... Did Brogdon go to...

Speaker 1 No, Brogdon wasn't in it because he was supposed to be in the Clippers trade that didn't go through. Brogdon screwed it all up.
Yeah, because of medical. So what was the trade exactly, Hank?

Speaker 1 Do you have it in front of you? Marcus Smart is on the Grizzlies. Chris Dapps is on the Celtics.
I don't know the rest of it. There's a couple picks, too.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Wizards got...

Speaker 1 Oh, the Wizards got Galanari. Oh, they got Tyus Jones, too.

Speaker 3 No, Tyus Jones, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tyus Jones, who will be good. Nice young Galinari.
I thought the Wizards got Galanari.

Speaker 3 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Hank, so you're sad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's sad. Marcus Smart, you know, when I first started working at Barcelona was the 2014 year after he got drafted.
It's when I started paying a lot closer attention.

Speaker 1 He was on, you know, those bad rebuilding teams, heart and soul of the team. Obviously, it was great watching him through this last run.

Speaker 1 He never changed. He never switched up.

Speaker 1 He was fun to watch. He was, you know, he'd drive you nuts sometimes, but you loved watching him.

Speaker 1 And it's just it's a good deal and i i don't hate poor zingis i think the celtics are still making more moves so that part makes it a little you know easier to swallow but it's still sad still you know it's like a breakup yeah one below michael and bird right yeah well that was that was a callback joke to 2014.

Speaker 3 i i i actually do empathize with hank and sympathize with him i do both but uh i it always sucks when you lose a fan favorite like that a guy that that busts his ass all the time, even when it seemed like they didn't have you know a shot at winning anything through the bad gears.

Speaker 3 And he was always like a fun, high-energy guy to watch. That sucks for Hank and for Max.
I know that Max loved Marcus Smart.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, the Wizards did get Galinari, by the way, who I was right. I was about to say, I was excited to watch him play this year.

Speaker 1 Obviously, he got hurt, and that was like, that's just a little stinger where it's like you were kind of hoping, like, oh, once we have Galinari back, we're going to be sick.

Speaker 1 And then he just never played for a second.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he got Galinari, and what's his name? The Italian guy.

Speaker 1 Muscala.

Speaker 1 It is always in sports when you lose a guy who it feels like he cares as much or even more than the fans. That always is like, it's different.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 sorry, keep going. Yeah, no, it just, it just is different.
It just, there's a different attachment to a guy like that who, you know, it's a, it's a job for a lot of these guys.

Speaker 1 Obviously, they want to win, but like it always felt like Marcus Smart cared that extra bit and he seemed like a really good dude. And

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 you were sad last night.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was news that came out today, too, that basically it was supposed to be brogged and the Celtics thought they were going to trade Brogged and the injury physical stuff happened where they kind of had to reassess and make a quick decision.

Speaker 1 And Marcus Smart barely knew the news, so that kind of sucks where it's like a guy who gave his heart and soul for the team just kind of gets like sprung on him. He's getting traded.

Speaker 1 And a nice story, shout out to Marcus Smart, great guy. He's doing his children's annual children's camp next week.

Speaker 1 And the foundation tweeted, like, we texted Marcus, obviously, if he wanted to postpone given the recent events. He's like, absolutely not.
Got to do it for the kids. So just a great dude.
Sad day.

Speaker 1 I didn't lash out at all at Max. I didn't say anything in factual.
He, I was mad. I was upset.

Speaker 1 And then I was thinking about the show the other day when fake Celtics fan Max said his favorite player was Marcus Smart. And then he got traded.

Speaker 1 Like, I said he's fat, bad luck Brian with a soul patch, which is true. Like,

Speaker 1 literally, everything in his life is the top meme of bad luck Brian. Like, says Marcus Smart's favorite player, traded next day.
Like,

Speaker 1 the fat part felt unnecessary.

Speaker 5 In factual, in factual.

Speaker 1 What's in factual? In factual, I just looked it up just to tell the children.

Speaker 1 This is the definition: a non-existent word that no matter how many times you smack someone upside the head trying to correct them, they refuse to believe the word is actually

Speaker 3 the word, the word itself is in factual.

Speaker 1 Yes, wait, what's what who said in fact?

Speaker 1 You said in fact you said in fact

Speaker 3 without fact.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't, I don't, it's inside the fact.

Speaker 8 Who said in factual?

Speaker 3 The word is unfactual.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're

Speaker 3 infactuated.

Speaker 1 Better speaker than us. Yeah, it happens.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but no, but Hank, the fat comment seemed a little bit unnecessary. That was lashing out.

Speaker 1 Max, I don't want to be this guy.

Speaker 1 Fact or fiction. In fact, or in fiction.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 you guys talk about it all day. I'm like, it's the same thing when I say it to Big Hat.
All you guys talk about is how fat you are. Then I, a skinny guy, say it, and you guys are like, oh.

Speaker 1 No, well, there's a tone.

Speaker 3 It was a tweet.

Speaker 4 He's right.

Speaker 4 There was a tone to your tweet.

Speaker 1 There's a reason why every response was like, whoa, what is going on here? Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's Twitter. There's just a bunch of pussies.
I don't know how. I don't think he's that.

Speaker 4 If you think that Twitter

Speaker 1 is being a pussy by... I don't know what I'm trying to say here.
Okay, now we got two Titans. We got two Titans facing off here in a debate.

Speaker 1 Fuck the RFK

Speaker 1 doctor debate. We got Hank and Max going toe-to-toe right now.

Speaker 3 We're like that ref from the boxing meme where it's just back and forth.

Speaker 1 And neither of them are throwing punches. They're just like going, like, no one's landed anything.
The copy box is like, well, Hank used a word that doesn't exist, and Max literally can't speak.

Speaker 3 Max said Twitter is pussy.

Speaker 1 Where was that going? Did you think Twitter's pussy?

Speaker 1 No, it's just that that's a wild thing to say.

Speaker 4 Be like, oh, yeah, Twitter's a bunch of way too big of a pussy to ever call Max fat.

Speaker 4 As if that's not like the only response to any picture that's ever tweeted about me.

Speaker 3 Max isn't that fat. You wouldn't have been able to get stiff armed that hard if you were.

Speaker 1 It was more, not saying you're fat, I'm just saying Bad Luck Brian's smaller.

Speaker 1 So like to give people a visual representation of what I was talking about, I just mean an enlarged version of Bad Luck Brian.

Speaker 1 Hank was doing a really nice favor for you, Max, because it was just trying to

Speaker 4 mourn the loss of my favorite player.

Speaker 1 That's the problem here.

Speaker 9 Like I got the news, got really upset.

Speaker 4 I said earlier in the day, because PFD was like, Jalen Brown's going to get traded and he's your favorite player.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yeah, that does stink.

Speaker 4 But actually, Marcus Smart's my favorite player. And I said that because I mentioned, because Marcus Smart is my favorite favorite player on the Celtics.

Speaker 9 And then I get the news, and it's like a slap right across the face.

Speaker 4 And then all of a sudden, I'm upset. I'm like about to text Hank and be like, yo, man, this sucks.
Like, you know, when you text your boys when like a really bad, bad loss happens? No words.

Speaker 4 And then all of a sudden, it's just, it's just

Speaker 4 slander. It's insults.
It's insults. It's slander.

Speaker 1 It's not slander. That's it.
And it's facts. You're a fake Celtics fan and you're bad luck Brian.
But Max, you actually, Hank explaining it that way, he was doing you a favor.

Speaker 1 Because if he said you were bad luck Brian without qualifying that you're fatter, people would have replied and been like, he's not bad luck Brian. He's too fat for that.

Speaker 1 So he was actually helping you getting in front of it.

Speaker 4 Disagree.

Speaker 4 And I still am waiting on the apology.

Speaker 3 Good luck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good luck. That's never happening.
I'm waiting on PFT's apology for fucking Leroy. I'm happy you brought that up.
I'm not fucking Leroy.

Speaker 1 No, this is not...

Speaker 1 This isn't. I'm not.
Don't fuck your dog.

Speaker 3 I don't love fucking dogs.

Speaker 1 PFT ruined the integrity of this podcast. We had a million responses being like, you guys don't know ball.
This is bullshit.

Speaker 1 Because he tweeted Jalen Brown's getting traded in a situation that's not even possible.

Speaker 3 Hank, it actually is possible. And it's Leroy, my dead dog, that you're upset with, not me.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Leroy gets 60%.

Speaker 1 Let him sleep.

Speaker 3 He gets 60% of his scoops right. That's what he does.
Okay. So this might be in the 40%, might be in the 60%.
We won't know.

Speaker 4 Hank just kept yelling at PFT yesterday, being like, Your dog is dead.

Speaker 1 Your dog is dead.

Speaker 1 Let your dog die.

Speaker 3 My dead dog does actually live rent-free in Hank's head.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You were so angry.

Speaker 3 Whatever. Whatever.
You were so mad.

Speaker 1 I love all you guys.

Speaker 3 One thing I do know about the Grizzlies, though, is they are going to have the top team not to be fucked with in terms of just beating the shit out of you.

Speaker 3 They got Marcus Smart, they got Stephen Adams, and they have John Morant, who will shoot you on the same team.

Speaker 1 Marcus Smart was literally built for Memphis. He is the grit and grind Grizzlies all over again.
It's the perfect trade for them. Like he is going to be perfect for them.

Speaker 3 Yes, they're going to beat the shit out of people next year. They're going to be fun to watch.

Speaker 1 All right, other trade, Chris Paul, in maybe the most hilarious twist in the NBA this year,

Speaker 1 got traded to the Warriors.

Speaker 1 If he does, in fact, stay on the Warriors, which it seems like the Warriors want him to, he is now going to be Steph Curry's backup, a guy who's had beef with for, I don't know, like six, seven years now.

Speaker 1 And he might win a ring as Steph Curry's backup, which would be just so, so fitting for Chris Paul. Like, he said that he talked to Steph and he's excited.
There's no way he's excited.

Speaker 1 He's had, they've gone toe-to-toe for, it feels like, yeah, it's like seven, eight years now. And

Speaker 1 there's just no way he's happy about this.

Speaker 3 Who on the Warriors has Chris Paul hit in the dick in the past? I know he's landed a couple nutshots on him, right?

Speaker 1 I don't know. So there's a couple things.
There was, there was, so Chris Paul was kind of Steph Curry's mentor when Steph Curry was first in the league. And then

Speaker 1 Steph Curry became the best player in the league and started winning rings when it was supposed to be Chris Paul's time. We also had the Houston series, both those series back to back.

Speaker 1 We had, remember, the famous Chris Paul laugh, laugh, laugh face to Steve Kerr.

Speaker 1 This year, Steph Curry drove on Chris Paul in a game and scored on him and then started screaming in his face. It's not 2014 anymore.
It's not 2014 anymore.

Speaker 1 We also had in that Rockets Warrior, like goes, it's pretty deep. Rockets Warriors series.
I think it was the second one.

Speaker 1 Chris Paul denied Steph Curry being able to practice on the court before the game. And then the Warriors won the series and was like, you know, don't like, you're not going to let me on this court.

Speaker 1 You're not going to let me on this court in the tunnel. And then finally, I think it was in like 2019 or so, Chris Paul was asked to make his perfect point card.

Speaker 1 And he went through the list and he picked Gilbert Arenas for shot making. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. No, he game respect game.
So

Speaker 1 they don't like each other. They do not like each other.
And now Chris Paul is going to be his backup.

Speaker 3 I respect that take. Yeah, Gilbert Arena.
People sleep on Gilbert Arenas just because, oh, Steph Curry, Steph Curry ruined basketball. Gilbert Arenas just made basketball beautiful.

Speaker 3 I agree with Chris on that one. But yeah,

Speaker 3 it's going to be a weird fit.

Speaker 3 It seems like the Warriors have become a team that's just on the brink emotionally recently.

Speaker 1 Well, Jordan Poole, Draymond.

Speaker 3 Jordan Poole, Draymond. Draymond might not come back next year.
We don't know what's going on with that. Jordan Poole getting him out of there.
I think that's a great trade for both.

Speaker 3 the Warriors and for the Wizards.

Speaker 1 I'd agree.

Speaker 3 Because the Wizards need to tank. They should have tanked a year ago before they gave Bradley Beal the no-trade clause.

Speaker 3 They should have started this process of tanking over 12 months ago, but they were run by an idiot.

Speaker 3 And getting Jordan Poole on your team to be the man and like, hey, Jordan Poole, we're giving you the keys to the car. These wizards are going to go as far as Jordan Poole will take them.

Speaker 3 And Jordan Poole is going to average 35 points a game and they're going to win like zero games next year. It's going to be beautifully bad basketball to watch.

Speaker 3 I just wish that this had happened a year ahead of time so that we would have at least been,

Speaker 3 I guess we were favored at like 55% to get Wimbanyama during the draft, but to just hang, get a higher pick, start to rebuild and start to run this team like a competent organization is just a year too late.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's,

Speaker 1 yeah, I like it for the Wizards. I actually like it for the Warriors too, because you get the, I mean, Chris Paul is the best backup point card in the league.

Speaker 1 Right? He is. Yeah.
So he it and they cleared a lot of money with Jordan Poole. They traded Ryan Rollins, who also clears money so they can get like, you know, one of those.

Speaker 1 I never understand all the exceptions in the NBA. It's like a mid-level, you know, veteran exception, whatever.

Speaker 1 It was mostly for contract for the Warriors because they only owe Chris Paul money this year and they'll probably restructure it. And yeah, I mean, he is the best backup point card in the league.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe not. I don't know.
Ricky Rubio. No, actually, like the argument would be maybe for Tyus Jones, who now is going to be a starter.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. What else we got?

Speaker 1 Pank,

Speaker 1 your hand up.

Speaker 1 I just had my hand up. But shout out to Ryan,

Speaker 1 the Breakers player.

Speaker 1 Yes. Shout out.

Speaker 1 Do you know his name? I don't know. Ryan Rupert.
Yep. Ryan Rupert.
I actually have his jersey. Yeah,

Speaker 3 we drafted him on the Breakers.

Speaker 3 Shout out to every team for being fucking idiots and not drafting,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Marquise Noel, maybe second round, maybe

Speaker 3 it's so funny too. It's not gonna happen, Jake.
I've I've been reading a lot of draft previews and mock drafts and shit, and I haven't seen a single one with Marquise. He's gonna make people pay.

Speaker 1 Summer League. I love that guy.
Summer League.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Other things.

Speaker 1 Oh, that college baseball game was incredible. LSU, walk-off, Tommy Tanks, what a nickname.

Speaker 1 And now we have LSU versus Florida in the final. I just, it was one of those things where I was watching the whole game, so I have to comment on it because it was that good.

Speaker 1 It was, it was an awesome, awesome game.

Speaker 3 It was like that

Speaker 3 Houston Mariners game in the playoffs last year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 College baseball is so awesome. I'm so glad that it's going to be LSU Florida, the championship game.

Speaker 3 It just once again proves that, yeah, okay, you're going to have some fun Cinderella moments where we're like, oh, maybe, maybe Oral is gonna make it.

Speaker 3 But it's just the SEC's world and we're living in it. Also, it's so LSU that this happened.

Speaker 3 They had such a great moment in sports on the same day that their former football coach had, I forget, like a bunch of wins taken away and had to be vacated for recruiting violations.

Speaker 3 And Will Wade, their former basketball coach, got hit with more NCAA punishments. So like two out of three programs right there, big slaps on the wrist.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, LSU is like, fuck you, it's louisiana who cares yeah and and this we actually oh write this down uh jake records that will never be broken for mount rush more in the future because the jello shot record will because it's a three-game series so it's at least two more games that that will never be touched lsu fans getting to stay in omaha for another like four or five days i don't know when it starts like that's that will never ever be touched that

Speaker 3 todd graves ceo of uh of raising canes hank and i actually had a chance to talk to him at teu about the jell-o shot thing and he was like oh yeah i saw that board and i called him up and i said i'll take 5 000 of them 6 000 you got 6 000 no he said he said i'll take 5 000 then he heard the record was 5 900 and then he said i'll take 6 000 i love it i love it um

Speaker 1 should zuckerberg and elon fight that was the other thing i had written down uh yeah um i saw was it zuck that said drop your location for the fight yeah and mark zuckerberg He's got that shit.

Speaker 1 Just so everyone knows, Elon owns Twitter, and Mark Zuckerberg is the guy who didn't get choked out recently. Yeah, they should have claims to fame.

Speaker 3 They should fight on the Sentinelese Islands. And they should just show up there and may the best man win.

Speaker 1 Dana White said that he would put the fight on and he said it would be the highest pay-per-view of all time because they donated all the charity. And I actually, I probably agree.

Speaker 1 Like, it would smash all records, and it would probably suck. It would be the worst fight, and everyone will tune in to see it.

Speaker 3 I mean, what they should do is they should put their companies up. It's like winner gets the other dude's social media platform.

Speaker 1 Swaps, swapsies?

Speaker 3 Oh, no, just like takes it over. Yeah.
They both own it. So, like, Elon runs meta, Facebook, whatever, and then Zuck could take over Twitter.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 6 I like that. Zuck would just tap him out.

Speaker 3 You think so? You think Zuck wins? Elon's a big boy, though. He's kind of Elon's low-key aha.
Barrel-chested.

Speaker 6 No, but Zuck would just get one of his ligaments because he knows jujitsu and it wouldn't be that good unless Elon's an insane striker and can keep him off him. But I don't think that's the truth.

Speaker 3 Billy, Elon is like a pretty big dude, right?

Speaker 6 Yeah, but...

Speaker 1 He also would get... He'd be big time on the gear.

Speaker 6 I think he's on a Zempic, but that doesn't help with fighting.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's true, but you don't think he would just do a shitload of steroids before this fight? He absolutely would.

Speaker 6 He might, but that doesn't help with technique. I mean, Brock Lesnar versus Frank Muir.

Speaker 1 Like, Frank Muir tapped him out the first time.

Speaker 6 That's what it's going to be like.

Speaker 1 Mark Zuckerberg just got choked out.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's not good at jujitsu. He's just a billionaire, and he pisses shitty people.

Speaker 6 The learning curve on jiu-jitsu is like Zuckberg's been through, like, he knows how to swim. Like, he knows how to tap a guy out.

Speaker 1 Well, no, he knows how to drown.

Speaker 6 But he's tapped other guys out. He's tapped other guys out.
I watched all of his film.

Speaker 1 He, like,

Speaker 2 unfortunately, I take your word for it.

Speaker 7 I sifted through all of it.

Speaker 6 That's what I do. So, to find the, you know, to find the good stuff.
And, like, he's tapped dudes out.

Speaker 1 Could you?

Speaker 3 Could you beat up Mark Zuckerberg?

Speaker 1 I'm going to be honest.

Speaker 6 I mean, jiu-jitsu guys can, like, take your pinky and make you tap.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Steven Seagal does that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like, Like,

Speaker 6 it's that type of thing. So unless Elon's doing tons of jiu-jitsu in the meantime, it's not going to be that good of a fight.
Unless Elon gets one lucky hit on him and knocks him out.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, either way, I want to see it. I really want to see it.

Speaker 1 It would definitely be one of those pay-per-views I buy, and then I'll be very upset that I bought it.

Speaker 3 Do you think,

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 what do you think the celebrity attendance would be like? Would it be treated like a pay-per-view big boxing fight, or would it be like

Speaker 1 weirdos?

Speaker 1 It would be nerds.

Speaker 1 Weird weirdos would be there. But celebrities?

Speaker 6 Their employees would show up in droves just to prove that they backed the boss.

Speaker 1 If they did it in Vegas, would there be A-list celebrities there?

Speaker 1 Joe Morgan?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 At least a handful. Yes.

Speaker 1 Mark Davis, he would go. Definitely.
That's as A-list as it gets.

Speaker 1 Also, one last thing before we get to George Kittle

Speaker 1 and our our Mount Rushmore famous football plays.

Speaker 1 I think that on Monday's show, so I've listened to some feedback. It is baseball season.
I think everyone needs to come with one hot take about baseball season on Monday's show. Okay? Great.

Speaker 1 One hot take, and we'll do a baseball,

Speaker 1 you know, little, little, like, just recap of everything, hot take on whatever's going on in the baseball season.

Speaker 1 We do, by the way, also have our baseball draft coming up July 3rd, which we've already taped. So

Speaker 1 we will be talking baseball then.

Speaker 3 That is technically our baseball preview.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is our baseball preview because we learned a lot of names in that draft. But I think one hot take from everyone on Monday's show in the baseball world will be good.

Speaker 3 I think the bases need to be bigger.

Speaker 1 Nope, save it. They're not bigger.

Speaker 1 Save it.

Speaker 3 They're almost there. They're so close.

Speaker 1 Save it. Save it.

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Speaker 3 Yeah, let's get to George.

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Speaker 3 And now, here's George Kittle.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. It is our longtime friend, George Kittle.

Speaker 1 We are in his workout facility in Nashville. Tight end you.

Speaker 1 Let's start there, tight end you. This is what, year three?

Speaker 9 Year three.

Speaker 1 And it is getting big. You guys have official merch.
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 1 How many tight ends are coming?

Speaker 1 75 to 85, somewhere in there. I got a couple texts last night of guys like, hey, I forgot to sign up.
Can I still show up? I'm like, yeah, for sure. Here's a number.
Text this person.

Speaker 1 They'll take care of it for you. So, what is like, has it been successful in the fact that are we getting tight ends more money now? Do you think that it's worked that way?

Speaker 1 And also, you should have worked in a deal where you get like a part of everyone's contract.

Speaker 1 This is just something we can give free. No, that's not a bad idea.
That's free business advice. It is free business advice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, year three. I do think

Speaker 1 tight end play has definitely increased. I think guys are taking tips and learning from it.
I'm very excited about this year. We have Gronks coming this year to teach stuff.

Speaker 1 He's very excited about it. And then Jordan Reed is coming to teach releases.
Oh, I'm very excited about that, too.

Speaker 3 He's got a great release. I know.

Speaker 1 He's got great releases. And I don't know if we can all do the things that he did, but to see him like coach those up, I'm pretty excited about.

Speaker 1 Travis is doing two different classes on why he, like a basic route, you know, a 12-yard in route and why he runs it differently versus cover four, cover three, man coverage.

Speaker 1 And so he's going to teach us why he does the things that he does. That'll be pretty interesting to listen to.
I'm talking gap scheme and outside zone. Pretty exciting.
You know, just set the tone.

Speaker 3 Is there anything that you guys have that you don't want to share with the other tight ends? Like special sauce. It's like, no, this belongs to Kittle.
I don't want to share with you guys.

Speaker 1 No, I'm like, I'll like, I might not say everything, but if guys ask me questions, like, there's nothing I'm going to hide from people. Like, you can,

Speaker 1 I want to give you the tools to be a successful tight end because at the end of the day, if all tight end play is elevated, we're all going to do better off.

Speaker 3 Can you create the perfect tight end based on attributes of players that are currently playing right now? If you were to build, like put different body parts, different skill sets together,

Speaker 3 what does the Voltron of tight ends look like?

Speaker 1 Ooh, how many tight ends?

Speaker 1 As many as you want. Oh.
Yeah. Heart.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 3 I'll give you body parts and then you can say

Speaker 1 heart.

Speaker 1 Whose heart? Who's heart? Can we end with that that one? Okay. Let's end with heart.
Because that might be the most important. Who knows? Yeah.
Brain. Brain.

Speaker 1 Smarts out there. I think I'd go with Kelsey just because, like, you know, him and Mahomes is like a tag team.

Speaker 3 You get part of Mahomes' brain with Kelsey.

Speaker 1 I was going to ask, like, Kelsey, when he gives his presentation, is the first part of his presentation, like, get Patrick Mahomes to throw you the ball? That was, he,

Speaker 1 like, the first two years he said, he was like, you know what, don't always listen to what your coaches say and just kind of go play football. Then he was like, he was like, you know what?

Speaker 1 you guys don't really have the freedom that i have

Speaker 1 so and you also you guys don't have patrick so do what you're supposed to do but here are some tips yeah if you do get off script about schedule gronk the same way being like uh biggest tip for your career is find tom brady and be on his team be on his team and then have decent wide receivers around you so you can get one-on-one coverage throughout the middle yeah that was a good tip all right so brain kelcey i think i'd go just kelsey because like he sees coverages you should like listening to him talk about coverage and stuff it's pretty awesome like he's not just out there messing around like he actually has a plan going into every single play for like different coverage and stuff, which is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Not everybody does that. All right, brain.

Speaker 3 Let's see, feet.

Speaker 1 Feet.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Evan Ingram.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah. Nice and fast, explosive guy.
Yep. What about hands? Hands?

Speaker 1 I'll give you Mark Andrews. Okay.
Bad boy can catch it all. That's a good answer.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 He loves Lamar Jackson's balls.

Speaker 1 He does.

Speaker 1 No, he talked about that. He's a huge fan of Lamar's balls.
He's been throwing great balls all the way TAs.

Speaker 3 You like Brock's balls?

Speaker 1 I do love. Yeah.
they're great balls, he throws great balls. What about Lefty?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 dude, I don't know what it is. Lefty, lefty's are just, it's awkward.
I don't know how people catch it. Yeah, but what about Brock Lefty?

Speaker 1 Oh, he should have, you know, he, I did ask him first day of OTAs. I was like, hey, were you working on that left arm? He was like, actually, I was the whole offseason.

Speaker 1 I got really bored, so I just started throwing the ball left hand. I was like, hey, well, we're set for any playoff run now.
A quick detour.

Speaker 1 When that happened in that game, in the NFC championship game,

Speaker 1 I would imagine your brain, like at the beginning, beginning, you're like, all right, we can figure this out. And then at what point you're like, yeah, we're fucked.

Speaker 1 When Josh got his concussion and like was gone, even though it was 21 to 7, but we had just completely, we converted like a third and 14. We're on like the 40-yard line.

Speaker 1 I was like, all right, let's get like 20 more yards, kick a field goal. It's 21 to 10.
And then like, we have the best defense in the NFL and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 And then once he got hurt, and then I saw Brock jog back on, I was like, he can't throw a football.

Speaker 1 It's got to be the worst feeling to just be like, well,

Speaker 1 this kind of sucks.

Speaker 1 Well, it's like I'm sitting there and there's 11 guys in the box, like they're pressed man on the wide receivers, and then they just have nine other guys six yards off the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 I'm like, well, it doesn't really matter how good your run game is. It doesn't matter how good Trent Williams is or like how good I am.
Like there's just nothing you can really do.

Speaker 1 It is what it is.

Speaker 3 Did you start getting the arm warmed up? Did you just throw a couple spirals and you're like, hey, maybe.

Speaker 1 I was like, Christian has this. You know, we had a wide receiver,

Speaker 1 Jawan Jennings. You know, he was in high school.
He was like the fourth quarterback on rivals rankings. Oh, wow.
In his class. Why wasn't he playing?

Speaker 1 You know what? The NFL, I'll say this. It's not like college or high school.
You can just put your best athlete back there and say, hey, just go be a great kid.

Speaker 1 It's like the NFL, they've game planned for it. It's pretty good athletes.

Speaker 3 You have to know the plays.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's also a few variables that go into it.
That's a very fan-like brain of us because we forget sometimes that everyone on an NFL field

Speaker 1 was like the best ever

Speaker 1 for their high school and could play every position. So we're like, why wouldn't he? Yeah, why wouldn't he? he could be the, he could be incredible.

Speaker 3 I would have put Trent Williams in a quarterback and just been like run forward just every play.

Speaker 1 It's just quarterback power every play. Yeah.
That would have been awesome. All right.
What about toughness? Me. Yes.
That's me. Yeah.
Grit, toughness.

Speaker 1 I don't know if we ever, we ever talked to you about that play against the Saints. Oh, no.
What's up? That play ruled. Thank you.
So for people who don't remember, it was the end of the game.

Speaker 1 Was it fourth down? Fourth and two. We had fourth and two, and George

Speaker 1 caught a pass and then basically just bullied the entire Saints secondary,

Speaker 1 like throwing them off of them. It looked like a Jerry Bruckheimer film where you're just explosions everywhere.

Speaker 1 When you finished that play, could you see in their eyes, like,

Speaker 1 you're just the alpha on the field in that moment? I totally blacked out. I was like,

Speaker 1 I was so, I hate when people grab my face mask and I was just like, that happened. I threw him off.
I landed. Dude landed on my leg and I just got up and I was like, King Kong, my chest.

Speaker 1 And after that, too, because it was like, I I think we had like 76 snaps as an offense. And I took 76 snaps.

Speaker 1 And I literally, I knew we were in full range. I just like put my hand up and I was like, I'm done.
Like, yeah. Game.
I've done my job. I've done my job.
Get me off the field.

Speaker 1 Like, get me the next week. I'm tired.
Like, we're done with this. And then, like, I didn't realize how cool it was really until I watched the replay.
And I was like, yeah, it was pretty sick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was really sick. It was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 I like it when you laugh during plays, when you're like just punching guys in the chest and you're just laughing at them,

Speaker 1 having fun. All right, what about strength?

Speaker 1 Strength. Ooh, that's a good one.
Let's see. Strongest tight end right now?

Speaker 1 Darren Waller would be pretty cool, but I kind of want to save him for speed.

Speaker 1 Okay. So he's speed.
He's going to probably be speed.

Speaker 3 Strength, though.

Speaker 1 Is strength and explosiveness be the same?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, let's go Darren Waller then. Okay.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 3 So he has speed and strength. Speed and strength.

Speaker 1 And then maybe you can do an extra strength who can lift the most. Ooh.
I think pound for pound, I might be up there for strongest. What are you squatting these days? I front squat, like 450.

Speaker 3 It's not that much.

Speaker 1 I know. I could be better.
What about bench?

Speaker 3 What are you benching?

Speaker 1 I hit a 275 banded bench today. It was nice.
Good warm-up.

Speaker 1 Just a warm-up. Yeah, it was nice.
Just a quick warm-up.

Speaker 1 I saw Trent Williams. His warm-up on an inclined bench press was 315 one time.

Speaker 1 Are you ever scared?

Speaker 3 Are you scared of Trent Williams? Like, he seems like the number one guy in the NFL that you don't want to fuck with.

Speaker 1 Yes, but because he's on my team, he's super nice. And he makes my job so much easier.
Like, he's, in my opinion, he's the best football player in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Like, it's him, Aaron Donald, and I think Nick Bose is pretty close.

Speaker 1 Mahomes is up there. But, like, I think Trent Williams is like by far on a playing field by himself.
I like that, Trey. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Are you as excited as we are when they put him in motion? And he's like, okay, Trent Williams is going to be the lead blocker on this play, and he's got a seven-yard head start.

Speaker 1 Well, it's fun, too, because I'm the tight end he's running at.

Speaker 1 And so like if you look like back in our playoff game versus the Packers, he smoked the defensive end into me and then they both landed on top of me. And I was just happy.

Speaker 1 I was like, wow, that had to have looked really cool.

Speaker 1 What a fun play. Trent Williams in motion.

Speaker 1 And then I think, you know, someday we'll get a pass off of it too, hit him in the flat.

Speaker 1 Like, who is that? Was that Penny Sewell with the Lions?

Speaker 1 Yes, to win the game. Yes.
Like, how cool. Like, hopefully we can do that with Trent at some point.

Speaker 3 What about Liver? Who's got the best liver? Who's the hardest part of it?

Speaker 1 Travis. Yeah.

Speaker 1 yeah travis or mark yeah they're both pretty talented what about uh blocking that's you yeah i'll yeah i'll take blocking or if you're like a guy that just retired like luke stalker tennessee vet he was fan he was a fantastic blocker as well or uh nick boyle okay thick boy yeah

Speaker 1 uh heart we both want to do heart tight end yeah heart i think i think all tight ends have great heart man i think it's just like a that's a communation does every tight end have great heart

Speaker 3 i think a majority of us do i'm gonna just take a contrarian stand. I think I brought this up to you last year.
Is the tight end position becoming too flashy? You guys have your own camp.

Speaker 1 You have your own holiday?

Speaker 3 We do have a holiday. Kind of a look-at-me type thing, huh?

Speaker 1 Well, has the tight end position ever been looked at? I feel like it's always been like under the bridge. Like, ah, he's just a guy.

Speaker 1 And, like, this is my take on it is Travis Kelsey is either first or second behind Devontae Adams of most receiving yards in the last six years, and he pays half of what the best wide receivers are paid.

Speaker 1 And so that kind of seems like it's just watering the bridge. Like, oh, like, he's just supposed to that he plays tight end.
And you don't really get a lot of attention and stuff.

Speaker 1 And I don't think a lot of like NFL fans, unless you're looking at your NFL team, would know very many tight ends in the NFL besides the top three or four, maybe. That's probably true.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also think tight ends, like, they are the most,

Speaker 1 they're, they're the pinnacle of football players in that they do everything. Yeah, I get a, I get a run block.
I get a pass block, pass pro on defensive ends.

Speaker 1 I get to run routes on linebackers, nickel safeties. Um, Trey Burton threw a touchdown pass in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I get reverses. I get to run the ball.
Like, you get to really do everything, and no other position can do that.

Speaker 3 So, we talk about a lot of tight ends that take a lot of pride in their run blocking. What about the pass protection? Who's the best pass-protecting tight end?

Speaker 1 Me, you? Yeah, if it comes to blocking, I'm like, I'll toot my own horn. I mean, like, that's the stuff I like.
I practice that stuff my entire offseason. I take all the reps in season.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm very prideful when it comes to that stuff. And, like, I'm very, when it's like second down and they're like, hey, it's, it's past 15 week.

Speaker 1 You're one-on-one versus a you know cam jordan you're one-on-one versus tj watt go for it i'm like i'm not like yeah like hey he gets paid millions of dollars to rush the passer yeah but i look at that as an opportunity for me to be like you're not gonna be able to get past me and i'm very excited about that so i i actually think you could play every position on the field i think you could be

Speaker 1 i think you could be a good defensive end if you wanted to dude i would love to play outside linebacker get up to like 265 and just set the edge so much yeah it'd be so much fun that's i mean that's how much he loves football you just want to play every position Dude,

Speaker 1 force a couple fumbles. Yeah.

Speaker 1 See, I've always said, like, if you give me like five third down pass rushes against the right tackle, I don't want to go against Trit Williams. I don't think I'd win that.

Speaker 3 But I feel like I'd win at least one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So I want to tell a quick story.
I think we've told this on pardon my take before, but you hold a very special place in our heart because you're a true, like, pardon my take.

Speaker 1 guest, like great story where we were at 49ers camp your rookie year.

Speaker 1 We interviewed Joe staley and after the interview he's like hey we got this rookie who's like a big fan can you guys take a picture with him and we're like fuck we'll yeah of course we'll do things for fans like we'll take a picture turns out to be george kittle we then start like watching we're like wait is that the guy who is a huge fan because like we're thinking oh this guy you know he's he's at the end of the roster like nice job you made the nfl good ends up being the best tight end in the league uh and you've been a fan ever since you've been the same guy ever since

Speaker 1 In terms of your career, so what year are you? Seven? Seven? Seven. Good to hear seven.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling? Like, are you, do you feel as good as you did then? Are you starting to feel the miles?

Speaker 1 Are you like, let's get a status check on your mentals and where you are with your NFL career? I was actually super pumped. I finished this season as the healthiest I've ever been in my career.

Speaker 1 Like I didn't have to do any type of tweaks. Like I didn't have to rehab anything.
The healthiest I've ever been.

Speaker 1 So so like i was able to start training right when i wanted to start training didn't have to hold anything back i was running routes so like right now yes is there definitely more mileage than there was for sure and like you can feel that and there's things i do to you know help with that you know i'm big into stem cells like i do a lot of rehab and i'm always preparing for stuff like that and i'm uh i'm always preparing for like the 17 game season and but like this is the best i've ever felt so like i'm just looking to continue to you know level up my game and try to be better out there.

Speaker 1 Okay. I like that one little note, though.

Speaker 1 You, and this might be just because we're looking for, because we consider you a friend and we're like, you know, actively rooting for you on Sundays. For sure.

Speaker 1 You do, it feels like, lead the league in little like tweak injuries that look like you're going to be out forever. Dude.

Speaker 1 So if you could maybe like start doing a quick thumbs up, just so, because I don't know, how many times has it happened in the, in the gambling cave, we're like, oh, fuck. That's an MCO.
Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 Kittle's out. God damn it.
This sucks. This sucks.
You probably go find my tweets where I'm like, please be okay. Please be okay.

Speaker 3 No, I've seen a couple of those.

Speaker 1 You post one there like, George, I hope you're okay. It's just a screenshot of my knee-bent chat.
Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 1 So, like,

Speaker 1 that was actually insane. Yeah, that was Seattle 2021.
Yeah, we need like some kind of sign you can give us where it's like, we don't have to worry. I only missed one plane.
I came very past the best.

Speaker 1 I know. That's the thing.
Like, we, we see

Speaker 1 like, he's done, it's over, and then you're right back in there. I don't know.
So, maybe just a thumbs up. Okay.
If that ever happens, I'll just be sure to give you one of these.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you're a quick one.

Speaker 3 I feel like you do that every time, regardless of what you're saying. No, it was.
If it was an ACL, you'd be like, I'll go out there.

Speaker 1 We we say that you get to the side you're you you have like the halo tattoo yeah we say that you get to the sidelines and you just hit yourself with a stem kit and you're like okay i'm back yeah yeah yeah maybe do maybe do a thumb sideways so that way we know but the other team is like oh George isn't feeling good.

Speaker 1 Thumb sideways.

Speaker 1 But you guys know that

Speaker 1 we'll know. We're like, he's good to go.
I can do that. Yeah.
I throw that up one time. Yeah.
Just thumb sideways.

Speaker 3 I'm actually shocked that you turned out to be as good an NFL player as you are because you're a big fan of part of my take. I always think that like players that spend too much time listening

Speaker 3 to our shithead thoughts about football, eventually one of our dumb ideas is going to creep into their brain and then that just derails their entire career.

Speaker 1 No, like my favorite thing is on Mondays. Yeah, Mondays when you do the rundown, right? Yeah.
Yeah, I drive into work. I just listen to the rundown.
It's one of my favorite parts of the day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but yeah, that does, that is a red flag because we're like, hey, he should be in his playbook, not listening to playbooks. You're right.

Speaker 1 I should be studying my plays because there's no game plan on a Monday. You're 100% right.
Throw half facts against the wall.

Speaker 3 I love that when

Speaker 3 fans tell players, like, wait, what is he doing out like at a bar? He should be reading his playbook. How much time do you actually spend reading a playbook?

Speaker 1 Well, like, weekly, we install on Wednesdays and Thursdays and Fridays. Like, those are our three install days, Wednesday being the heaviest day, and then Thursday's third downs, Friday's red zone.

Speaker 1 So it's like, I look at it on Wednesday. We do walk through.
We do practice. I review it that night.
Thursday, I do the same.

Speaker 1 Like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, you'd never see me out like dinner or anything like that because I'm studying or watching film. You don't even eat.
Yeah, I stuff my face. I definitely do that.

Speaker 1 But like Mondays and Tuesdays, no, like I I might watch some tape, but like there's no game plan yet. Like Shanahan's in the cave creating

Speaker 1 whatever he's doing. How many, how many different variations off one single run play has Kyle? Like, what's the most? It's infinite.
I'm not going to be able to do it. Is it really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like we can, we have a play. It's like eight, like you could call it

Speaker 1 I write clamp

Speaker 1 18 Zorro. And we can run that like out of 50 plus formations and motions and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 Like we really got into like last year's like we do all these motions where it'll look like it's a three by one, right? Three receivers and one guy on the right.

Speaker 1 And then we'll do a motion and the fullback will go to the right. And then all of a sudden, it's a three by one on the opposite side.
And it changes all the responsibilities for the defensive guys.

Speaker 1 And so, like, it makes them all things like now the nickel, instead of having the D gap, now he has the B gap. But if we, once we get three guys over there, now he has the opposite A gap.

Speaker 1 And so, like, we're just trying to confuse guys out there because as soon as a defensive guy is out of a gap, oh, there's Christian McCaffrey for 70 yards.

Speaker 1 So, Christian McCaffrey, credit to us, we said that he was the Niners were the one place we wanted to see him go.

Speaker 1 So, we were actually ahead of pretty much everyone. We were smarter than Kyle Schmidt.
Curious, when did you say that?

Speaker 3 We said that it was like two weeks before he got traded.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 2019. I wrote, we traded jerseys, and I wrote on his jersey.
I was like, I'll see you soon. Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 I've been speaking into existence. That's like a fancy dream board.
Oh, dude, yeah, someday we'll be together. You and me, Christian.

Speaker 1 I know, I was playing Call of Duty, and then all of a sudden, uh, one of my buddies, like, hey, dude, did you see me just you just traded for Christian McCaffrey? And I was like,

Speaker 1 what? Yeah, looked at my phone, Adam, was it? Yeah, I think Ian Rapport tweeted about it. I was like, this is a, I called him instantly.
I was like, are you kidding me? So

Speaker 1 when you, when he came, was it instant where you're like, this is, because it really was like Kyle Shanahan's run game and then supercharged with a guy like Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 Well, he can just, he can run all receiver routes. Like he can literally go out there and run like a 10-yard out route and you can throw him the ball.
He's got the steps down. He's got the angle down.

Speaker 1 Like he can run any route. We're like, a thing we were doing too, it's like we'd run a whole concept to the right.
And on the back side, we just have like, it's called like a chip choice.

Speaker 1 And so, Christian would chill, like, hang, it's called chill. So, he'd chill for a second, see if there's any blitzes.

Speaker 1 And if there's not, he'd just run up and run a choice route on the one guy that's left, which is a mic linebacker. Right, just break him down.
Yeah, good luck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then they double cover him, and then the route concepts always open because they don't have enough guys to cover us.

Speaker 1 And so, like, that was a big part of our offense late in the year is just like him running choices on the back side and us doing fun stuff on the front. Okay, it's fun to watch.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 He's, yeah, it's it's very fun. He also just adds to the list of dudes that the Niners have.
You guys have

Speaker 1 the most dudes, besides let's take out trent because he is the number one dude in the nfl yeah who's the biggest dude

Speaker 1 easy yeah bosa's incredible like i said it's like it's like trent and bosa and then i think like fred's like he's a fantastic football player like he's like the heartbeat of our defense like the reason that we're so good and like we fly around like we do it's mostly because of fred um

Speaker 1 then i'd put myself up there i know like well i think one guy that you guys are gonna love to watch is iuk this brandon iuk yep holy cow like he was cooking our defense all of OTAs.

Speaker 1 It was so fun to watch. Yeah, no, he's very underrated because everyone talks about Debo.
It's like we're also, we have like six mouths to feed on our offense.

Speaker 1 And so like if he was in an offense where he was the number one choice and got 12 targets a game, he'd probably have 1,400 yards and 15 touchdowns. Yeah.
He's fantastic.

Speaker 3 We were talking to Coach McDaniel a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 He's great. He's awesome.
He's an awesome guy.

Speaker 1 Not a vapor. He was not vaporizing.
No, he's not vapor. I saw that.
No. At some point in the past, he wants a vape.
But he quit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He didn't have a technology that we were.

Speaker 1 He said it was like a different life, right? It was his past life. That was a long time ago.
Totally.

Speaker 3 Never do it again. But he was sharing about how he would get the buy-in and how Kyle gets the buy-in on offense for everybody.

Speaker 3 We always say, like, on the Niners, everybody is kind of deputized as an offensive lineman or a tight end. If you're a receiver, you basically have to be able to do some tight end stuff.
Yes.

Speaker 3 And he gets everybody, he does the clips of the best run plays and he makes the entire team watch them so that everybody feels that peer pressure to want to be the next dude that goes out there and blocks.

Speaker 3 Has that been like a key factor in making everybody want to do all that dirty work? That sometimes, you know, a receiver would probably rather catch a touchdown than lay somebody out.

Speaker 1 And so like it's crazy because like you expect everybody to block, but like if you watch like run games and stuff like that, you'll see, and nothing against them, like some guys just don't run block.

Speaker 1 Like that's just not in their repertoire.

Speaker 1 But like when you see like an ex-receiver go out and dig out a safety right before he makes a tackle and it adds 15 yards or a touchdown to the run, like you're like, hey, I want to do that too.

Speaker 1 And I didn't really see that until in 2019, we traded for Emmanuel sanders and he came in and he's not a big dude by any means and he was digging out safeties left and right and then he was also scoring touchdowns and stuff and like if you do the run blocking stuff and you run good routes cow rewards you and that's like kind of the cool thing too it's like so yes what you're saying is like he shows in front of the whole team because it's like you set the standard and then you're not going to get on the field unless you do this and if like if you're kind of a wimp in the run game or you don't give a lot of effort hey well we can't trust you and if we can't trust you just to hey your one rule on this is to dig out the safety and if you can't do that then why would i trust you to run like a double move go ball and score a touchdown yeah so it's like it's kind of like earning your stripes is being good in the run game I saw a interview you did where you said that sometimes Kyle will run a run play that is like designed to fail just to set up play action later yes so you know the ones that are like offer I'm sitting like this this fucking play like I'm like I don't it's like it leaves me like one-on-one backside inside inside zone versus a defensive end who's crashing the C gap I'm like this isn't gonna work or it's like, I have to pull and insert.

Speaker 1 And it's just like to get the linebacker to step up, linebacker step up, and then we'll run it. We're like a slant right behind it to Debo.
And like, Debo catching the ball at full speed, running.

Speaker 1 Good luck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good luck. And so it's like, we just, we run these run plays just to bring everybody up.
And then you give Debo space versus two guys. Like, I'm going to take Debo.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's just so funny, the idea of like wasting plays.

Speaker 1 Yeah, knowing that, but, but the reward is there. Yeah.
And it's like, and sometimes like those plays do pop sometimes.

Speaker 1 Like they're like, hey, like, it's not like, we're not going into it with the intention to

Speaker 1 trying to fail, but it's just like, hey, if this goes for two yards, it's okay because the first play of the third quarter, we're going to run the pass play off of it and they're going to all step up because they think they've seen it three times.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh, 75-yarder. Yeah.
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 That is actually like next level football coach.

Speaker 1 It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 I don't think I'm releasing any secrets because you just watch the tape and you can see it. Well, and also you don't know when it's going to happen.
No, and I don't.

Speaker 1 You don't know which play is the one that's, you know. And like, there's games that we don't do that.
But like, I remember like we were playing the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 We were in like some gap scheme play where like you have two polars and it went for one yard. It went for a negative one yard.
It went for negative two yards.

Speaker 1 And we were in the pass and it was a touchdown. I was like, ah, that's why we do it.

Speaker 3 And if you're Kyle, you can be like, oh, yeah, that was one of the wasted plays. A play doesn't work out.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 It was just a prank. I meant to do that.

Speaker 1 Just kidding.

Speaker 1 Just kidding, guys. No, I mean, people.
The cameras all around.

Speaker 3 You saw that.

Speaker 1 You got goofed. But I mean, people can watch the, the, you know, all 22, all they want, but Kyle's still calling the plays.
And when he calls it, you'll never know.

Speaker 1 That's like, that's what's cool, too, because we always come out like the night before the game, we have like a, we have like, like every team does this, like your openers.

Speaker 1 Like, these are the plays that we want to run in the first quarter, like to set the tone. And we have 24.
And they're just like his 24 favorite plays.

Speaker 1 And we usually stay on script for like the first eight to 10. It's like, and that's like it's third down.
Then we'll call a third down play, obviously.

Speaker 1 But like you'll get through like eight to ten of those. And then after that, it's just like, okay, whatever he's vibing with.
Yeah. And like, okay, well, this outside zone works.

Speaker 1 So let's try another variation of this outside zone to see if they haven't seen it yet. I always thought, and this might be very dumb, but there's no dumb questions.

Speaker 3 There's no dumb questions.

Speaker 1 I never understood, like, if a team is really good with their opening script, just run it in reverse. Just be like one through 15 and then just 15 through one.
You're not wrong.

Speaker 1 They won't be able to figure it out. You're not wrong.
And then just do it again. And just go back the other way.
Just keep six.

Speaker 1 That would make it way easier. I don't have to know 15 plays as opposed to 100.
Yeah, just run 15 plays so well that they can't stop it.

Speaker 1 There's something about that where you just want to let your players play at their highest level and not think at all. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Do you guys ever do the thing where you run the same play like 10 times in a row, different variations of it, it, just to like take the soul out of the other team?

Speaker 1 In we've had a couple games, like we've had two games versus the Seattle Seahawks where we ran like power load five straight times to win the game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we didn't change anything. We just literally ran.
like two tight ends, Kyle Yuschek, and a wing, and we just ran power down these guys' throats.

Speaker 1 And it was one of the most satisfying moments of my career.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I love it whenever that happens.

Speaker 1 But like, yeah, but we do have players where it's like, it's the exact same play, but like it's a different motion or it's a mildly different formation.

Speaker 1 So it looks different and it could be a different play, but oh, just kidding, it's the same exact play.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we've been gassing you up a lot today. We've been talking a lot of uh, we're doing a promo for you essentially here.

Speaker 1 Are you about to humble me? I'm gonna humble.

Speaker 3 Well, no, I'm gonna ask you to humble yourself. I think that's the most important trait that you can have for sure.
As a football player, you've never you never truly arrive.

Speaker 3 You know, there's always something you can improve on. Yeah.
When was the last time you got got in the game? When was the last time somebody just ate your lunch?

Speaker 1 Ooh,

Speaker 1 um,

Speaker 1 dude, JJ Watts, last game of his career, like we're playing the Cardinals. And like, you know, JJ can just do whatever he wants to do.

Speaker 3 Except evade Darren Revelle.

Speaker 1 Yeah. For sure.
Yeah. But like he's in a five technique.
So it's in between me and Trent Williams. He's in that gap.

Speaker 1 And we get to the line of scrimmage and like he's looking at me and me and Trent are talking. And like, we know we're calling out our call.

Speaker 1 And like JJ looks at me and goes, you're in a gap scheme again, aren't you? And I was like, no,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 And this guy takes like one step. I go to get him.
He just hits me in the back of the head, throws me to the ground, swim move. And luckily, my other tight end like kind of caught him on the hip.

Speaker 1 He didn't make the tackle, but he did it to me like three times that game. And he was like, I still got it.
I was like, yes, JJ, you can do anything you want, man. Like, relax.
I was like, relax, man.

Speaker 1 Chill. But he said happy birthday to my grandma.
So it was totally fine. Oh, that's so JJ.

Speaker 3 That was super nice. That's so JJ.
Just beat the shit out of you and be like, also, I'd like to wish your grandmother a happy birthday.

Speaker 1 He was like, oh, hey. And I was like, oh, you know what? It's all right.
Come on, JJ. No, so it was, it was fun, though.
Playing DJ in his last game was pretty sick. Yeah, that is sick.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 sell us on Brock Purdy because... Sure, what do you mean to sell on? Well, he was a like much debated topic of

Speaker 1 is he good or is it the system? Because you have to say, you have to admit, Kyle Shanahan does coach in a way that most quarterbacks would have success. Sure.

Speaker 1 Was there a moment? maybe a play, a game where you're like, no, this isn't just the system. Brock Purdy actually is guy.

Speaker 1 Honestly, his first game. We're playing Miami.
Jimmy gets hurt.

Speaker 1 Purdy comes in and Miami decided to zero blitz us like five straight times. And it was his first third down in.
They ran cover zero, two guys completely free.

Speaker 1 And he hit me like on a, it was third and seven. Yeah.
Hit me on a perfect play right down the middle. And I was like, all right, you can play a little bit.

Speaker 1 And then the next third down, they did it again and he hit like Debo on a play. And I was like, all right, like, and sitting in cover zero and being able to hit that.

Speaker 1 And we were telling you, like, like, hey, this is the cover zero route to hit this guy, but to be able to step up in a pocket knowing that you're about to get hit by a blitzing mic linebacker and there's nothing you can do about it, that takes some balls.

Speaker 3 I remember that, I remember that sequence. And I was like, I think he can actually play at this level.

Speaker 3 And there's like a back and forth give and take that you have to do because, yeah, he's playing in a great system, a system that's quarterback friendly, but also, like, no disrespect to Iowa, they don't score a lot of touchdowns on Iowa State.

Speaker 3 Oh, Iowa State, sorry.

Speaker 1 That's my brother. My mistake.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the state of Iowa doesn't score.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You're not entirely wrong there.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, but like, I think one of the coolest things with Brock is that like you can just kind of see his savviness in the pocket too.

Speaker 1 Like he's got really good pocket awareness. Like he's, he played 48 games in college.
So like he knows how to play the quarterback position.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Brock Tober.

Speaker 1 Every October, he would be awesome. Yeah.
So it's like, and then another thing I love about Brock is like quarterback, like players that have like had success, but have also failed, right?

Speaker 1 Like in college, like he had two pretty not great years, like his last two years of college and so like it humbles you but like to be able to come back from failure and then play at a high level you got grit and like you know how to play the game and so like that's one of my favorite things about brock and like granted like he didn't really fail too much in the nfl he went eight and oh and like just got the niners super you know red hot but you know he's got a lot of intangibles and like he's fantastic in the huddle too he's stepping in there and like the quarterback gives the energy for the play like if your quarterback comes there and he looks nervous so you're kind of like oh boy yeah

Speaker 1 just give the ball like but like you didn't really feel that with brock it was just like like he had a handle handle on things and he had the confidence to him.

Speaker 1 And there's certain things you can't really coach. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you going to be a professional wrestler when you retire? I know you want to be. I'm open to all opportunities.
It's a lot of work. I was actually looking at being a podcaster.
Okay.

Speaker 1 No, that's the hardest business there is. Yeah, I know.
It's really hard in your body. We've flushed out the weakest of society.
Megan Markle, Sia. She can't do it.
She can't hack.

Speaker 1 She couldn't do it weekly.

Speaker 3 Actually, that's what we do this on this podcast where, you know, how she had somebody that asked the questions and we overdub all her questions later. We do that with Billy.

Speaker 3 Billy asks all the questions and then we come in.

Speaker 1 If you're listening to this right now, Billy has already asked all these questions. Yeah.
We already went through this. This is all recorded.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Okay. This is one that is totally out of Billy question.
How like sweet is it to be in the NFL?

Speaker 1 So cool. Yeah.
Good question, Billy. Thanks, Bill.
That's a great question. Yeah, I know.
Being in the NFL is super sick. I don't know why everybody doesn't do it.
Yeah. Like, why wouldn't they?

Speaker 1 Good point. Seriously,

Speaker 3 is that something you ever think about? It's like, you wake up in the morning, you're like, I'm a fucking NFL player.

Speaker 1 That rocks. Hey, George, what are you going to do today? I'm going to go down to my gym.

Speaker 1 I'm going to work out and then I'm off for the rest of the day and just, you know, maybe watch the film, but I'm done because my season doesn't start until July. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Could you pull LeBron and write a letter to your younger self thanking your future self for being great at football?

Speaker 3 What would you say to little Kittle when he gets, when he gets into the NFL, day one of training camp, what would you tell him?

Speaker 1 Oh, dude, I don't know if I would tell him anything. I'll just let him do what he was doing.
Just cook it. It worked out pretty well for me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just enjoy it which i think i did yeah i mean i enjoyed every single day like we started our season 0-9 as a rookie and i still had fun every single day even though we sucked that's you're a psycho you are a football psycho that's

Speaker 1 my definition of it uh all right uh hypothetical oh i love these okay and um obviously this isn't gonna happen but let's just say it is your dad is here he's a beast We've already talked to him.

Speaker 1 He might be writing us a letter for the start of Grit Week. He should.
I think your dad could still kick your ass. Yeah.
Yeah. Why do you think that?

Speaker 1 Because I think that you would get to a point where you're like, I can't kick my dad's ass. And he would be like, I sense weakness.

Speaker 3 And then he would just fuck you up.

Speaker 1 That's fair. Okay.

Speaker 1 So do you think, like, if hypothetically you had to fight to the death, I think I'm taking your dad. To like to the death? To the death.
I think I would do my best to kill him then. You think

Speaker 1 he's raised me in that way. You think you could?

Speaker 3 He would be proud of you.

Speaker 1 He would be proud of me.

Speaker 1 You did it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You finally raised it.
You're killing him to death. You're like, finally, son.
Everything I taught you. You're smiling.

Speaker 1 i've done my job i've done my job that's every parent's dream is to one day be killed by their own son it's just like a movie it's like successional it's like the opposite of Oedipus complex yeah

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Speaker 1 Iowa football. Ooh, what about it?

Speaker 1 What do you think about this year? Are they going to score over under 150 points on offense? Total. What was the total last year?

Speaker 1 It was something.

Speaker 1 It was in the hundreds, I think. It was probably like 120.

Speaker 3 I think, was it Caitlin Park

Speaker 3 scored more points in the final four

Speaker 1 than Secret Ball did all season? Yeah. Isn't she great? She's the best.

Speaker 1 She was so excited to watch.

Speaker 1 Over, under 150. 150 offensive points.
What's the average of that? Is that 12 a game?

Speaker 1 That's 25 a game, sorry? Yeah, yeah. That's like, yeah, like somewhere around 12 a game.
Was it 12 games, right? Yeah. Times 10.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to score. We're going to average like 15 a game.
Whoa, I mean, that's explosive.

Speaker 3 That will get you guys to 90.

Speaker 1 No, but I'm taking. I'm getting into accounting, obviously, the pick six.
No, so like out of the 12 games, we're going to have at least six, six,

Speaker 1 six pick sixes. Some punt blocks.
Some punt blocks. And that's why we're going to get over 15.
It is. I will say, though, we do, like, we got a quarterback that can move.

Speaker 1 We had, like, who's played a little bit. So, like, that will be exciting.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, that's better. Hopefully, I will line.
You know,

Speaker 1 they've all played now. Cause last year we were at all freshmen and they were getting brutalized.
So hopefully it's a little bit better this year.

Speaker 1 But that's also like, because Iowa and Wisconsin play a very similar brand of football. It's tough to watch sometimes.

Speaker 1 It actually is like good, though, for the soul, because it basically says, like, how much do you love football? Do you love football enough that you can watch an offense never score?

Speaker 1 Do you love football enough where it can be nine to six and you're satisfied with the win? Do you love football enough that like you know going into the game, you need to pick six to win this game?

Speaker 1 That's amazing. That's, it's really the test of true football fandom.
You're not wrong.

Speaker 1 I think that, I think that's what makes Iowa, Wisconsin so great. Yeah.
It's because like you have to be such a fan. Yeah, you have to know that you have to love football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we were recounting the game that I was at that you were in in 2013 when it was

Speaker 1 2015. It was not a joke that like I was watching the game at Camp Randall being like, I hope Wisconsin can pin Iowa like at the five-yard line with a punt.

Speaker 1 So that way we can get a punt back and not have to get a first down to kick a field goal. You guys had four turnovers that game, too.

Speaker 1 Like, we had a corner, have two picks. It was.

Speaker 3 You guys fumbled two balls.

Speaker 1 It was just trading punts to see who can inch closer and closer to field goal range. It was so brutal.
That's football, babe.

Speaker 1 But if you can't love football at that, then you don't deserve like Chiefs Rams a few years ago. Oh, it wasn't that exciting.
Yeah. Right.

Speaker 3 Are you guys, is Iowa TEU? The real TEU?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I do think that. I mean, I'd agree.
If you look at like, especially active guys, like last 10 years, I think Iowa's pretty good. I mean, Dallas Clark, me, Hawkinson, Laporta is going to be fantastic.

Speaker 1 I think Laporte is the best tight end in the draft class. I think Lions got his complete steal.
I like the other tight ends, too. But I spent two weeks training with Sam Laporta and like

Speaker 1 the way he moves. He's got the dog.
Oh, yeah. He's got the dog.
He's kind of quirky. He's kind of like goofy too.
Like he's, he's going to fit in well.

Speaker 1 Do you know right away if a guy's got the dog in him?

Speaker 1 How quickly is the test? Is it just an eye test?

Speaker 1 Well, like if when you train with somebody, whether it's like in the weight room or like running routes with them and like things that I look for is when you're running, do you have a forward lean?

Speaker 1 Like can you get out and like you're still accelerating through 10 yards? Or do you stand straight up and you look like a brick wall just kind of moving slowly?

Speaker 1 Not everybody, a lot of people look like that. So he's got a nice forward lean.
He's got great hips. If we're being honest, so are you going to be a football coach? At some point.
So what level?

Speaker 1 It depends, you know, kids and stuff like that. Who knows? But do you think maybe like college? NFL? I think recruiting sounds terrible.
Terrible. Doesn't that sound awful?

Speaker 1 Especially now where you get to like, all right, hey, here's $25,000 come to Iowa.

Speaker 1 What is that?

Speaker 3 But you're a big enough name where I think you just get on the phone.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You just be like, call up a young tight end.

Speaker 1 Hey, do you want to play at tight end university oh you need to win a ring just see thank you no

Speaker 1 that is like that helps a lot like saban just drops his rings on the table it's like winning a super bowl would be really cool and i'd be like hey yeah see this you want to take a look at my super bowl ring yeah come on down yeah come on down you guys should get a ring though like just for being the team that on paper should have won the super bowl like you guys would have won my last five years you guys would have won the super bowl because you guys are the best team i believe so i mean like hey like i go into every game with confidence that we're going to win the game game so like yeah we lose sometimes and i'm just just like and then you go back and watch the film like yeah i mean that's why we lost like turnovers didn't play well couldn't make a clutch catch something like that and or at the end of the day too like you know nfl players are pretty good and everyone has great players but like if you don't go in a game with confidence then what are you doing in the nfl so yeah i believe i'm gonna win every game that i'm gonna go in is that realistic for some people no for me felt like it was this year yeah i know it felt like we went we won 12 straight straight points

Speaker 1 did lose to the bears though that was mean we didn't play not my fault okay no like dude like, yeah, I couldn't play against the Bears, dude. I love them too much.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 I had to cut them some slack, dude.

Speaker 1 It was fucked up.

Speaker 3 It was fucked up what you did against the Commanders this year, too.

Speaker 1 It was so fun.

Speaker 3 How is that fun to just continue to slit a team's throat after they're already dead?

Speaker 1 Like 120 yards and two touchdowns. There's nothing wrong with that, dude.
It's so much fun. And we like

Speaker 1 our first touchdown was our wide receiver run for 75 yards. Yeah.
Lead blockers, George Killer, Chris McCaffrey. Actually, I watched that cut up last night because that's good.

Speaker 1 That's going to be on the tight end you teach day. Do this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're just like, do this for a 75-yard touchdown. Just do this really well.
Wait, one last, last question. You have the record for most yards in a half for a tight end.
Yep. 210.

Speaker 1 This is like 2018 or something. Yes, it was.
What was that halftime conversation? You're like, holy shit, that was.

Speaker 1 I sat down. Because like, again, that's a lot of running.

Speaker 1 We were like 2 and 10 at that point. So like no playoffs, no nothing.
And I sat down and like Garrett Sellek, my vet tight end, looks me and goes, dude, you have 210 yards. I was like, what?

Speaker 1 This half time? No way I do. And they're like, yeah, you need four yards to break a record.
And I was like, well, that's pretty cool. And it didn't happen.
Thanks, Kyle. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's up with that? What the hell? He apologized to me after the game. I'm like, I don't know what that's going to do for me now, though.
Thanks.

Speaker 1 He's at halftime.

Speaker 3 I was doing the math. I was like, he's going to get 400 yards receiving.

Speaker 1 I was like, just give me a 10-yard stick, man, like a 10-yard branch, right? I'm good. But I don't think I ran another route the rest of the time.

Speaker 1 But that's kind of cool to be like 210 yards in the first half. It's crazy.
And that's it.

Speaker 1 My job was done

Speaker 1 um all right well we're gonna take a quick break we're gonna reset we're gonna do a mount rush more with george he's gonna be on team billy and jake for this one is your name actually george have you ever called yourself greg

Speaker 1 Yeah, I usually my name tag is Greg. You know, however you guys want to identify me as, I'll be George or Greg.
Well, it got so confusing at one point where I was like, is his name Greg? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 3 So we confused ourselves.

Speaker 1 No, it's actually wild. Where was I?

Speaker 1 I was in, I was like doing something in san francisco and i had a fan um call me jeff

Speaker 1 swear to god he's like hey jeff kittle i was like

Speaker 1 it's not even close

Speaker 1 just pick pick gregor george yeah right it's not that hard and you guys are offending my mom she's back there right now and she's like his name's george yeah george george is a good strong name jeff kittle that's that's a quarterback name yeah yeah you should have gone up to cow and be like Jeff's ready to go.

Speaker 1 I love quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 Go off. All right.
So, yeah, we're going to take a break and then we're going to do mount rush more with george and he's gonna be on team billy so let's go take a quick break break

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Speaker 1 Okay, Mount Rushmore time.

Speaker 1 It is a special Mount Rushmore. I can't believe you've never done this one.
It is the Mount Rushmore of football plays. So iconic football plays can be college or NFL.

Speaker 1 We have very special guest, George Kittle. We're still in his lair, his gym.

Speaker 3 The barn.

Speaker 1 It is George and Billy. Yes,

Speaker 1 Billy is so excited about.

Speaker 1 And before we do the Mount Rushmore, Hank is here as well. Yeah.
George,

Speaker 1 anything to say to cowboy fan Hank? Hey, how many times has Dak Prescott been on the show? Oh, good question. Once.
Once. And it was the worst interview we ever made interview.
Disagree.

Speaker 1 I like Dak. No, he's a good guy.
He's a great guy. Great interview.
He's a great battery. Have you met any other? Have you ever been to Dak's home? No.
Nope. No.

Speaker 1 Invited, like, invited to tight end university. Have you ever been invited to quarterback university? No.

Speaker 1 I have a question question as well, George. So I don't really care about that.
You're answering questions.

Speaker 1 We're not really answering questions. Ask your question.

Speaker 1 I get all this guff for being a Cowboys fan momentarily for a playoff run before I even knew they were playing. Who played a 49ers?

Speaker 1 I was the only one on this podcast that was rooting for George and the NFC Championship game, Fact or Fiction. Okay, but I made a bet on the Philadelphia Eagles in August.
Also, you're agreed.

Speaker 1 Literally, no chance that you can tell. You made a bet when you basically had the path.

Speaker 1 You're like, they're going to beat the Cowboys and beat the bucks and then they're gonna play the 49ers and beat the 49ers wait hank are you are you deflecting your wearing a cowboys jersey by trying to throw them under the bus

Speaker 1 hank what are we doing

Speaker 1 that was rude

Speaker 1 i'm wearing your cleats i made you wear the cleats no you specifically were like the cowboys are gonna beat the 49ers and my good friend george kittle former good friend former is what you said you know we'll work on it though like we'll get some reps in we'll work out together you know hopefully we can rebuild the bridge that's been burnt to the ground kyle even wore part of my take sweatshirt.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he did. Right in your face, Hank.

Speaker 1 Hank just likes to root against our friends. That's his favorite thing.

Speaker 1 Who did you root for when our good, good friend Jared Goff was in the Super Bowl? The pitcher. I rest my case.
Yeah, I rest. I rest my case.
Yep. For sure, Hank.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I'll just hold on to that one for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 Use it as fuel. I like it.
Yeah. I'll win you back.

Speaker 1 That's the chip on my shoulder this year is Hank. Yes, Hank.
Right there. Hank being a hater.
All right. So you guys, Billy and George.
Billy's a nice guy. Billy is a nice guy.

Speaker 12 I didn't want to say it at the time, but I did bet the nine.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice. I couldn't say it.
I couldn't say it at the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that's

Speaker 1 good.

Speaker 3 Max was saying he was going to cut his hair into a mohawk like yours if you won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 I didn't say that because then you would have to get past the Eagles, and I don't, I'm not going to root for that.

Speaker 1 Oh, you don't want to say that.

Speaker 1 Well, could you just root for my success?

Speaker 8 I will root for your success.

Speaker 1 That's fine. We'll just go there.
Just say, hey, George, I hope you play really well, but the rest of your team. I hope you guys run through the Eagles every single time you play them.

Speaker 1 Is that Patriots or Cowboys fan, Hank? No, that's Kittle fan. Oh, okay.
Kittle fan. Yeah, yeah.
That's fine. But what happens? Are the Niners playing your Cowboys this year? Week five.
Oh,

Speaker 1 big test, Hank. Yeah, it will.
It will be a test. Just wait.
I'll win you back. Okay.
I can't wait.

Speaker 1 All right. So, Mount Rushmore of football plays,

Speaker 1 College and NFL. You guys have the first pick.
Oh, that's a hell. Snake draft.
So it's you guys, then us, then Hank and Max, and back around. Okay, that's what that's the order, yeah.
Right?

Speaker 1 I miss her, yeah. Billy

Speaker 3 and George, and then us.

Speaker 1 House rules.

Speaker 3 Wait, no, if we're in the studio, if he's taking Jake's place,

Speaker 1 then we're confused. We go, Hank, ourselves.
You go, Hank,

Speaker 1 the house rules, we are going first. Oh, wait, no, no, you're right, you're right.
You are going first. Hank's going first.
Sorry, you guys are going first. It's my house.

Speaker 1 You guys are going first.

Speaker 1 No, it's his house. It's his house.
All right. You guys are going first, then Hank, then us, and then back around.
This is under protest. That's fine.

Speaker 1 If we lose to get third place,

Speaker 2 George will have to come to the isolation chamber.

Speaker 1 Those are just a good point, Billy.

Speaker 1 If we lose,

Speaker 1 he has to come for like an hour to the chamber. I love chambers.
To the what?

Speaker 3 To the isolation chamber.

Speaker 1 Is that where Aaron Rodgers went? Yeah. Yes.
That's where Aaron went? It's kind of like that. Yeah.
Yeah. Like,

Speaker 1 if we get a ring.

Speaker 1 We'll be playing in this football season at that point. We'll make it pretty important this thing.

Speaker 1 You can zoom in. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm sure your wife and family would be happy if for your bye week you decide to come to the Pardon My Take studios and sit in a chamber with Billy and Jake. Yeah, Claire's not here.

Speaker 1 She's a little bit. She's fine.
She's fine. Thanks, honey.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
So you guys go first, then Hank and Max, then us.

Speaker 3 There's so many good football plays.

Speaker 1 There are so many good football plays. Would you like the honors? Yeah, I'd love to.
Our first play is the catch. Joe Montana, Dwight Clark.
Okay. Set the course of Fortnite's history.

Speaker 1 We decided it was a little overrated. It's a little mid.
No. Is it? No.
Chris Berman makes the catch.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys were the dominant team of the decade, and then the Niners finally won and then went on a complete run.

Speaker 3 But when you talk about the catch, you can't tell the story of the catch without who was there to witness the catch. Tom Brady.
Chris Berman elevates every football moment that he's a part of.

Speaker 1 He's fair. But you get that he's not part of the catch.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 The covering of the catch.

Speaker 1 If we're doing best moments covered by journalists, the catch would be number one.

Speaker 1 See, now you're just trying to talk down ours because it's your podcast.

Speaker 1 Oh, they do. You're fitting perfectly in the role of Jake Marsh.
I know exactly what you're doing. You podcaster guys.
No, it's a good pick. It's a good pick.
It's an iconic play. It's a good pick.

Speaker 1 I will go with probably the most important play in NFL history.

Speaker 1 There was a hard narrative forming against the Patriots. They lost their past two Super Bowls.
Everyone was saying that, you know, Tom Brady couldn't get the big one. He learned it.

Speaker 1 Malcolm Butler interception against the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 Okay. Most, most, I mean, it was the greatest Super Bowl win of all time, the most unexpected Super Bowl win of all time.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 How many point favorites were you guys? Hold on. Was it really? No, that was like a.
They were only like a three-point favorites. Yeah, but still, Hank said it's the most unexpected.

Speaker 1 You know, who was your petting favorite of ever seen? That's a good pick. That's a good pick.
Is it our pick? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we will do the most improbable Super Bowl win of all time and the most iconic catch of all time, David Tyree's helmet catch. Whoa, is it called the catch?

Speaker 1 No, it's called the helmet catch. The helmet catch.
Yeah. I feel like the catch is probably a little more iconic than the helmet helmet catch.

Speaker 1 Throw Cart jumped six feet to catch that ball.

Speaker 1 When you say no who's pick now, when you say no, who's catching that tight end? What's the most iconic catch in NFL history? It's the catch.

Speaker 3 I mean, there's also a lot that went into the catch beside the actual catch. It was Eli Manning somehow escaping being sacked, chucking it downfield with everything that's online.

Speaker 1 Perfect season. Undefeated season.
17.9.

Speaker 3 Favorite most improbable Super Bowl winner.

Speaker 1 That was a good play. Season catch.

Speaker 1 Hey, it was a tight end, though, so I love it. Great.

Speaker 3 Okay, so what do we want to do for number two here? Because that's a great, we can go six. Number six that we have on the list, we could go number nine or number ten.
I think those are the two zones.

Speaker 1 I like

Speaker 1 six or ten. You make the call.
Pick ten. Six or ten.
Ten feels like we might reach.

Speaker 3 We can get it later.

Speaker 1 Yeah, six is

Speaker 3 Vince Young, fourth down, touchdown in the national championship game.

Speaker 1 That was sick.

Speaker 3 Maybe the most incredible ending to, like everybody was saying, USC, they were kind of like the Patriots in that game. Is this the best college football team of all time?

Speaker 3 Vince Young just stepped up and he just put his nuts on the table.

Speaker 1 And it's probably

Speaker 1 decided it's probably the best college football game of all time, or at least up there. And it's the seminal play, 25 seconds left.
Keith Jackson on the call. Vince Young's got the corner.

Speaker 1 He's got it. Unbelievable play.
Yep.

Speaker 3 I don't think casuals like it.

Speaker 1 You literally just got upset because you knew

Speaker 1 you wanted that pick.

Speaker 1 He has like the graphic. I don't remember.

Speaker 1 I don't remember what that looks like. 456 when that happened.

Speaker 1 Game on the line. line.
That was a great national championship.

Speaker 1 What's your target audience, big cat? Our target audience is us. Football guys.
I want to make sure, like, age-wise. What's your age-sized graphic? Okay, that's funny.
Guys who picked the catch? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, because everybody knows what that is.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows what that is. Nice stride.
Nice stride.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows young people who tackle

Speaker 1 it. It's one of the most iconic plays in Canada.
That was your guys' next pick when Rogers did the first forward pass. That was pretty cool.
Okay. That was cool.
I mean,

Speaker 1 you can't argue about history when you pick the catch. I I mean, like, that's for old game.

Speaker 3 So, I don't know about you guys. You guys sound like you're pandering a little bit to the audience.
When me and Big Cat come up with these lists, we just say the Holy Spirit moves us to make this

Speaker 1 speak for the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 1 Off the dome. That's cocky.

Speaker 1 That was a good, it was a really good game. I think the game kind of makes the play seem, but it was really just a game.
It makes the game good. No, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 The game was so good.

Speaker 3 It makes the most important play of that game seem worse.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think you guys are reaching.

Speaker 1 A fourth and five QB Scramble touchdown for the win. Thanks, for the national championship.
Without context, it was a lame play. Okay, okay.
Without context, that's a lame game that I think is cooler.

Speaker 1 Okay. And I have the most iconic, me and Max have the most iconic college football play of all time to kick six.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Is that for the national championship? In Alabama, yes. I think it's kind of mid.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think kicking is very football. It's also why that happens.
It's wonderful.

Speaker 1 It was the longest kick return.

Speaker 3 The kicking is, but kick returns.

Speaker 1 That had nothing to do with it. Just because kicking's involved.

Speaker 6 Like, Saban Saban only put out linemen. I mean,

Speaker 1 what he did wasn't that cool. I could have done that.
You could make the argument that was just a really bad play because Alabama just didn't do their job.

Speaker 1 It was a really good play. No, no, no, it wasn't good at all.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think if the guy NFR is running, I mean, the NCAA is running a highlight package, like, that's probably getting top billing all the time.

Speaker 1 Vince Young is. No, the kick six is definitely before Vince Young.

Speaker 1 Vince Young's just a scramble. It's a five-yard play.
Kick six. Kick six.
It wasn't a five-yard touchdown.

Speaker 3 No, it was fourth and five, but then he was a good one.

Speaker 1 But it was like a 15-yard touchdown. Okay, yeah,

Speaker 1 15 or 100, which is higher. And everybody knew that Vincent was going to run the ball, and they still couldn't stop him.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep. Yeah, you have two.
Oh, well,

Speaker 1 we're going to go to the Immaculate Reception. Okay.
Another historian. This is another guy.

Speaker 1 We'll bring it recent. Yeah, going with our audience, target audience.
No, I mean, who is all the way to the bottom?

Speaker 1 Name it like

Speaker 1 in space, fullback, just paper and grit, runs up and catches it and runs it for a touchdown. Just so it's clear, all the plays you guys are picking, the people aren't alive anymore.
No, but they're

Speaker 1 elders, dog. You're just saying they're disrespecting these people.
Well, there's, I also, you know, who is Billy doesn't wait, Billy, who's playing in the game? Steelers. Raiders? Raiders.
Raiders.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I shouldn't have left them off the hook.
There's also only

Speaker 3 one camera angle of both of those plays that you guys have picked so far.

Speaker 1 And ground. And yeah.
But that angle is a bit. Those plays are gospel.
No, it's a good play. It's a good play.

Speaker 1 We have to go. We're trying to be positive now.

Speaker 1 Which one is that? I am. I'm trying to.
No, you're not, Hank.

Speaker 1 That's not positive. We're on three.
We're in three.

Speaker 1 What do you like better?

Speaker 3 Same Hank has to put down other people's picks and go crazy.

Speaker 1 Whichever one you want to do, dog. This was kind of the start.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Our third one is the Tom Brady Tuck versus the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Okay. Iconic.
Changed the course of history. Changed.
Changed the course of history. Was it a fumble? Was it not? It was not.
Okay. Confirmed.

Speaker 1 But that was a very important play that actually changed the NFL. And it started the Patriots dynasty.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to denigrate another man's pick anymore. I've tried to turn over a new leaf on this.

Speaker 3 But I would have a lot of material to work with if I wanted to.

Speaker 1 I'm also not going to denigrate another team's pick. I'll just say that my favorite football plays are plays that we have to watch in a replay booth for 10, 15 minutes in a row.

Speaker 1 This is an important play. You said iconic play.
Correct, correct. No, no, it is.
It's a very important play.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. Listen, the snow was there and everything.
I wouldn't put down your pick at all, but if I were, I would say that Adam Vinateri's two field goals that he made in that game are better plays.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, but we're not going to be there without that play, though. But

Speaker 3 okay, so we're so you're talking like important play.

Speaker 1 You said iconic. Yeah, okay.
What do people talk about more? That talk or Adam Vinitieri's kick?

Speaker 3 Adam Vinatier's kick. I disagree entirely.

Speaker 1 I'm bringing up all the time. Kicking isn't part of the game.
Okay, they make a 30 for 30 about the kick.

Speaker 1 So what? They didn't make a 30 for 30 about the kick. Okay.
I mean, we're not putting down your pick, so I don't know why we're even having this discussion. Yeah, we're not.
Good pick.

Speaker 1 You guys are cancer today, though, I will say. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. All right, Hank.

Speaker 1 uh we're gonna go we're gonna we're gonna keep the theme here uh and we're gonna go with the philly special

Speaker 1 a common play that was so iconic that they named it after philly even though it's been a common play for

Speaker 1 it was clemson started it well that's what i'm saying but it's so iconic that they changed the name to just the philly special even though it's it was a common play you love that play it's not it is it's not plays we love it's iconic plays what was your first pick The most iconic play in NFL history play.

Speaker 1 You love that play? I love it. Good pain.
I actually like that pick. It is.
Good pick. Everyone's got good picks.
We're doing a good job, guys. This draft is awesome.
I agree. Okay,

Speaker 3 what do we want to do with number three here? We've got 11.

Speaker 1 We'll go nine.

Speaker 3 Yeah, nine's pretty big.

Speaker 3 You want to go nine,

Speaker 3 and then do you want to do eight to wrap it up? I love eight. I think eight, Mike.

Speaker 1 Mike is.

Speaker 1 I love it too. It's such a beautiful play.
The problem with our picking is that we're the only

Speaker 1 team that picks true to what we love. Yeah.
Not like pandering. Oh, I hate the Philly special.

Speaker 1 Hank hates the Malcolm Butler play. What are we talking about here? We're a team here.

Speaker 1 It's not about I.

Speaker 3 It's about we.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's lock in nine.

Speaker 1 We also

Speaker 1 have that one because it's college. No.
Wait, 20 minutes over here?

Speaker 1 16-2.

Speaker 1 Or we go 14. That was just an unbelievable.

Speaker 3 That's just the best play.

Speaker 1 Okay. You want to do that?

Speaker 1 I like that. All right.
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 1 Our next pick, we're going to go with, because we're here in Nashville, we're going to go with the Music City Miracle. Oh, Music City Miracle.
Incredible play. I mean, forward pass.

Speaker 1 You watch every game.

Speaker 3 Illegal. Nope.
They reviewed it. It was not a forward pass.

Speaker 1 Somebody did the math. It was like impossible for it to be.
Are you guys shitting on our pick? No, this is just winky. Who said we didn't shit on your pick?

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 That was a smart move by you.

Speaker 1 It also is one of those plays that, like, if you're a football fan, you just always root for something like that to happen for your team. You're like, well, come on, just one chance.

Speaker 1 If you're watching the game, you're just like, something crazy. Yeah, it's happened before.
It could happen again. Music City Miracle.
Great name for it.

Speaker 3 Like Music City Miracle. It's got the alliteration.
It's catchy. It's very catchy.
You're always going to remember. Jeff Fisher was the architect of it.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 You can't tell the story of football without Jeff Fisher.

Speaker 1 It is true. Maybe we actually go one.

Speaker 1 Okay. Do you want to do it? Yeah, it is like

Speaker 1 one of the coolest islands. It is cool.
It is cool. Do you think they'll?

Speaker 3 I think the others are more like nostalgia-driven. Right.
This is just that fucking rock.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Cool.
Go for that one. Okay.
Number one.

Speaker 3 Or, I guess, our fourth pick.

Speaker 1 Fourth pick. Number one.

Speaker 3 Sean Taylor in the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 Leveling.

Speaker 1 It's a great pick. It's great funny.
Oh my God. We're talking Pro Bowl.
Jack Tucker. We're talking Pro Bowl.
All-time punter. All-time time play.

Speaker 1 We're going to throw a banger after the Pro Bowl. Yeah, okay.
Well,

Speaker 1 he put the pun

Speaker 1 into the circle. Put it on the graphic.
Love it. I love this pick.

Speaker 3 The punter tried to run a fake punt. Who did he shot? It was Brian Moorman.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Who was at one time the fastest player in the NFL, if you can believe it?

Speaker 1 One of the greatest hits in NFL history. And it was in a Pro Bowl, which you're not supposed to hit.
Yeah. You just fucking jacked him up.
You crushed him. Yes.
You know, we say it.

Speaker 1 That would be double. Yeah.
That would have hurt really bad. Yes.
Yeah. That would have hurt so bad.
It did a fucking badass play. We're just doing a little of everything.

Speaker 1 Best football player of all time.

Speaker 3 You got on Taylor.

Speaker 1 We got an iconic NFL play, iconic college football play,

Speaker 1 a end of the game Music City Miracle, and then the coolest hit ever. We have all.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 you guys did a, you know, you go Google best plays and you look it up. I wouldn't do that.
You're like Fred O'Harris and the catch. That's fine.
These are all done.

Speaker 1 The catch is like the first thing I ever, like, 49ers drafted, the catch. Yeah.
So I know about that.

Speaker 1 You guys got a top 20 college football player. We got the number one, and we're about to take the number two, most iconic iconic football play of all time: Statue of Liberty, Boise State.

Speaker 1 Wow, Oklahoma! That was on my list. The definition of what makes college football great.

Speaker 1 Football games means nothing.

Speaker 1 It meant everything. What are you talking about?

Speaker 9 I mean, back then,

Speaker 1 any of the football? Festival. Okay.
Dang, didn't know that. Hank who was playing against? I wasn't.

Speaker 3 Boise State against who?

Speaker 1 Oklahoma. Okay.
All right. I mean, truly the most

Speaker 1 legendary rival. Obviously, not that cool.
I lost money on that game. I was like, how could Oklahoma ever lose the game? The proposal after, it was beautiful.
It was what makes college football great.

Speaker 3 Well, some people would say that the play before that play was more impactful when they ran

Speaker 1 downfield lateral than that.

Speaker 1 He doesn't know that the impactful plays are iconic. No, he says that he doesn't remember what happened before that.

Speaker 3 He just remembered, oh, that guy from the cover.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're talking about highlight plays, iconic plays.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 1 I don't see that one in the highlights. I see them satcheling.
You guys were talking about Texas versus USC. There's another play from that that I remember better.
Yep. And that's when

Speaker 1 Reggie Bush broke off a long run and then lateraled it backwards. Yeah.
Turnover, crush all their momentum, and then allowed Vince Young to have his cool moment at the end of the game. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 So you guys are picking two fumbles on your draft board. They're iconic plays.

Speaker 1 You're taking the lesser of the more impactful plays from that same game. No, no, no,

Speaker 1 no, no, no, not to deal with it.

Speaker 1 We're not getting into any picks. USC running down, they have all the momentum in the world.
And Reggie Bush just would you say that that would be the most iconic Reggie Bush?

Speaker 3 I was going to say Reggie Bush, Fresno State.

Speaker 1 Or the Bush Push.

Speaker 1 Also on there. Oh, that's another good play.
The Bush Push was a pretty big one. I was saying that was one of my favorite comments right now.
No, I know.

Speaker 3 Again, not denigrating your pick. Yeah.
It wasn't even the best lateral from that game because Vince Young had a lateral in the first half. But we're not denigrating.

Speaker 1 What happened on that play, though? Did it change the momentum of the entire game? No denigration.

Speaker 3 I think they might have scored. I know.

Speaker 1 Ours was a turnover. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Defense wins championships.

Speaker 3 How many points is a turnover worth? Defense wins championships.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay, so which ones did we miss? We had

Speaker 1 James Harrison 99-yard touchdown.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's big. Yeah.
Doug Fluti, Kale Mary. Kale Mary.
Ooh, that is a good one. Stanford Band.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to go old again, though.

Speaker 3 I wanted to put this one on the list because it might be my favorite football play of all time.

Speaker 3 Dan Connolly, 71-yard kickoff return on the Patriots. Offensive lineman.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Marty told me to do that.

Speaker 1 That's a great

Speaker 1 play.

Speaker 3 Go back, watch the highlight right now if you've never seen it before.

Speaker 1 That's a great big boy offensive lineman.

Speaker 3 Recovers a squib kick, takes it 71 yards. He covers it up with the five-yard line.

Speaker 1 And then he breaks on the 20s for 50 yards.

Speaker 3 He goes two hands on the ball because he thinks he's about to get tackled, but he's just blazing speed, breaks through, cuts the outside, puts the ball in his outside arm like a fucking running back.

Speaker 3 Stiff arms people.

Speaker 3 I will never say another bad word about John Kuhn, the football player, but I'm so mad that he chased that guy down and tackled him at the end of that play because

Speaker 3 it would have been the best play in the history of sports if he had scored a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Julian Edelman against the Falcons

Speaker 1 deserves some love. Crabtree versus texas was on our list

Speaker 1 that was cool all-time iconic game uh richard sherman versus crabtree yep uh michael vick versus the vikings overtime his run i think you brought that one up deshaun jackson miracle at the meadowlands yeah that was

Speaker 1 i said that one hank hank vetoed it but that was that was a great that was it that would have been a great pick if it wasn't a regular season game Well, it was to get the Eagles to the playoffs, wasn't it?

Speaker 4 No, we were just down like 20.

Speaker 1 I think it was 24 points in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 It was at the end of of the season, though.

Speaker 6 Michael Vick throwing a bomb to Deshaun Jackson randomly.

Speaker 1 First game ball, yeah, the first game of the Eagles. Yeah, we remember that game.
That was cool.

Speaker 1 Jackson, Randy Moss, triple coverage.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Jerome Simpson Rady and Randy Moss played together.

Speaker 1 How cool. It's great.

Speaker 3 Watch Jerome Simpson front flip into the end zone where he stuck the landing.

Speaker 1 Doug Flutia helicopter was

Speaker 1 John Elway. John Ewell.
John Elway. Same thing.

Speaker 6 You know the Dez no-catch?

Speaker 7 Des no-catch?

Speaker 3 Just because it was weird.

Speaker 1 Oh, Odell Beckham. Odell Beckham.
Yeah, yeah. Could you do that? Yeah, sure.
Yeah, it's the gloves, right? Just throw me the ball. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some Steven Clowney. Michigan.
Most operated play of all time.

Speaker 1 I went on with the boys. We asked Taylor about it because he was a left tackle, Lawan.

Speaker 1 And he did not do what he was supposed to do, even though he thinks he did. But if you look at Gap scheme, he completely left.

Speaker 1 the tight end on an island alone versus a in like a gap that gap guy taylor's supposed to help out on left left him on an island.

Speaker 3 Super tough.

Speaker 1 If he just had his helmet strapped on, no one even knows what it is.

Speaker 1 The only reason I would say it's not over is, and you can't, there's context to the play. The fact that they didn't get the first down and then like the next.

Speaker 1 South Carolina didn't get the first down by like an inch. They were pissed off.
That was the next play for Michigan. So it was the Turtles are back.

Speaker 1 It was Michigan. They gave him a first down and they were like two inches away.
That's right. Yeah, they were like super short on it.
He was bald on live plays.

Speaker 1 The number one ball down live play of all time. Fair.
I just remember in real time, and I was like the number one play on the Sports Center all year. And I was just like, this is not.

Speaker 3 He just tackled him.

Speaker 1 Whatever happened to the running back?

Speaker 1 To what? To the running back. For Michigan? I don't know.
I think he's still there. I'll throw away.

Speaker 1 This one

Speaker 1 on the field. He's still there.

Speaker 1 This one hurts, but it is iconic, even though it was in a loss. But Devin Hester, opening kickoff in the Super Bowl.
So, I mean, that's

Speaker 1 that one. And then I was thinking about it.
I was like trying to do all like the Bears ones. The Mike Brown back-to-back pick sixes to win games.
What was it? David Montgomery?

Speaker 1 What was the game with the Cardinals and the Bears when they had like

Speaker 1 21 points off of turnovers? Yeah. And one of them was Erlacher just taking the ball out of a guy's hands and running to the bottom of the game.
Yeah, the Bears are who we thought they were that game.

Speaker 1 That press conference alone could be an iconic call. David Montgomery.

Speaker 1 That's where you guys should amount to that fourth down this year.

Speaker 1 I think we might have done that. Okay, just

Speaker 1 we're running out of time. Corner Ellen Patterson.

Speaker 3 Patterson's kickoff return with the Sky Cam was on him.

Speaker 1 That was just

Speaker 1 the Saints Vikings play.

Speaker 1 Oh, Miracle, Minneapolis Miracle. Oh, that was good, too.

Speaker 1 Shoot.

Speaker 3 Saints, Rams.

Speaker 1 Saints, Rams, pass interference.

Speaker 3 Oh, that was crazy. That was nuts.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 What's the best play you've ever had?

Speaker 1 Probably Saints is what I get. Fourth and two is what most people think of when they think of me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Patrick's pretty good play. Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 Oh, the best thing completion that we'll ever see?

Speaker 1 In the Super Bowl? The diving. That's now in Madden.

Speaker 1 Like, can you imagine playing Madden online and someone hits for the win? You're just like, best play that never happened. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Beastquake.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Beastquake to get away.
That was a great one. That is a fucking great one.
That was damage. I thought about that last time, then I forgot.
That's super tough. That's such a mess.

Speaker 1 Didn't he grab his dick when he was going to the injury, too? Yeah, he went backwards. Bray Jennings, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, broke my leg. Does that count?

Speaker 1 Whole team on his back. Darren Shopper.
One of the hottest hits.

Speaker 12 Travis Kelsey getting powerbombed

Speaker 1 by Terwin.

Speaker 1 I hates Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 3 I don't hate Travis Kelsey. Oh, I saw this.

Speaker 1 Do you think Travis Kelsey runs soft?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 he led tight ends in Yak last year, so I don't think it's possible to say that he runs.

Speaker 7 But just like his mentality when he runs.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think he runs soft. Now,

Speaker 1 there are times and places where you can run out of bounds or stay in bounds, and sometimes he decides to go out of bounds, but like he's 32, 33, and maybe that's just what's best for him and the Chiefs is to not pick up two more yards and to play the next play.

Speaker 6 So you agree he's making a lot of business decisions while running?

Speaker 1 Look, Travis literally led the league in yak, so I can't. Okay, he's fantastic.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Billy's Billy keeps trying to soften it, but he keeps making it worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Billy, no, I'll introduce you tonight. You can shake Travis's hand and tell him that he runs very soft.
You run soft.

Speaker 1 Your words, not mine.

Speaker 7 You can't see me say that in front of him.

Speaker 3 I'm just trying to figure out how to get out of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, I'll bring up.
I'll be like, hey, Travis, this is Billy. He thinks that you run very soft.
Yeah. That'll be a great moment.

Speaker 3 He called you the B-word. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, good Mount Rushmore, everyone.
Great. I feel good about it.
Yeah, huh? I think you. I love our picks.
I love our picks. You guys laugh at the Sean Taylor thing.

Speaker 1 That's what he complex. Yeah.
No, I mean, Sean Taylor will play. It's a great play.
I'm just going to make a supercomputer. That's like a social media clip.

Speaker 1 Well, here's the problem, and we do do this to ourselves. Something on Google.
With the fourth pick, we try to do something different. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 We try to get, you know, we don't, we're not going to do the BuzzFeed list like you guys do. Really? I think the Reggie Bush louder.
Not to denigrate.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's true.
I think Reggie Bush laughed. Hank did the Buzzfeed list.
You did take a very bad pick on on that.

Speaker 1 Is Hank a Cowboys, Dodgers, and Yankees fan?

Speaker 1 Do you like the Lakers?

Speaker 1 I don't like the Lakers, though. Yeah, okay.
All right. Well, George, thank you.
Ooh, that was sick. Did we get that? Athlete.
We got that.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're going to get into our movie review.

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Speaker 1 Our movie reviews brought to you by Max.com. We're reviewing movies, documentaries from Max.com this month.
And oh boy,

Speaker 1 we did a doozy this week, boys. We did,

Speaker 1 we watched the documentary Jared from Subway catching a monster. Oh my God, was that horrific?

Speaker 1 I mean, it was... fascinating because I don't know.
I'll start here. I don't know about you, PFT,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 my like knowledge of this case was like, oh yeah, he got caught with some stuff on his computer and that was it. Like I had no idea how deep it went.
I had no idea how long it had gone on.

Speaker 1 It obviously centers around this one journalist who Jared had like they were at a middle school doing a speech and right before it started, he like turned to her and whispered and was like, aren't middle school girls so hot?

Speaker 1 And then like, she was like, what the fuck did he say? And basically spent the next six, seven years being an undercover agent for the FBI trying to get him.

Speaker 1 The whole thing was crazy. And I also want to say, I don't know if you guys had the same thought, but when I was watching it,

Speaker 1 thank God pardon my take hadn't started yet because we definitely would have had Jared from Subway on the show.

Speaker 1 We would have. He was doing so much media.
I forgot how like insane the media hype was for Jared from Subway. He was on everything, everything.
There's I in no doubt in my mind,

Speaker 1 we would have gotten an email being like, Jared from Subway is stopping by the office. Do you guys want him? And be like, yeah, sure.
So it would have been like, yes,

Speaker 3 let's do it.

Speaker 3 We'll have, we'll have Max walk back and forth to Subway with you every day for a week, wearing his giant pants, the Super Bowl pants, and then he'll hold them up at the end of the week and show how much weight he lost.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 yeah,

Speaker 3 he's a bad guy. Jared,

Speaker 3 really bad guy. I was shocked.
Like, how many, how many times do you think he had told somebody that? Because he had had just met the woman earlier that day.

Speaker 3 They sit down at a middle school assembly, and then he leans over and he tells her that he thinks that middle school girls are hot. And she was like, what?

Speaker 3 How many other people did he tell that that didn't do anything about it? So on one hand, the woman that's the

Speaker 3 focal point of this documentary, she seems like she was kind of bored. And this gave her like a project to work on and she wanted to be a spy.

Speaker 3 And Jared, Jared's a fucking idiot for like not not realizing that's what she was doing over the course of like six years.

Speaker 3 She was basically asking him to just incriminate himself over and over and over again while never ever like meeting up with him or following through on any of the stuff that she said she wanted to do with him.

Speaker 3 Jared's a moron for going along with that. At some point, guys like that, they might want to get caught.

Speaker 3 They might like, you know, subconsciously know that they're doing something bad and want to get caught. So he kept going along with it.

Speaker 1 Jared, awful guy.

Speaker 3 Shockingly, I don't think Jared was the worst person in this documentary, though.

Speaker 1 It was the other guy, yeah.

Speaker 3 It was his business manager, but even more so than his business manager, his business manager's wife, I think, is the worst person in this documentary.

Speaker 3 So, his business manager was like helping him procure kids, sending him like child porn, taking him on trips to Thailand, and doing god knows what over there. His business manager's wife was

Speaker 3 selling videos of her own kids naked in her house. What the fuck is going on with that?

Speaker 3 She was also, she was the worst.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 6 She was also, if you caught this small sound bite, she was fucking horses on camera.

Speaker 6 And they found it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was like, that's how it all. That's how it all, like, that's, that was the, the, the moment that Jared's like life started to go down the path of getting caught.

Speaker 1 was the horse fucking it was i had if you had asked me before i watched this i would have had no idea that all this happened.

Speaker 1 Like, it was one of those documentaries that I'm happy I watched because I, I, like, there was so much stuff that either I had forgotten or just never learned.

Speaker 1 Because it was, he got arrested, and everyone, you know, was like, oh, that's fucked up, and made jokes. And like, it was so much deeper than that.
It was so much more fucked up.

Speaker 1 It was a very well-done documentary. And we should say her name is, her name is Rochelle, or her name is Rochelle Herman.
And she basically, like, she's a hero.

Speaker 1 And even though she wasn't the person who took him down, like, she's a true definition of a hero. It's like, she could have easily just done nothing.

Speaker 1 Instead, she kind of ruined her own life trying to take Jared down.

Speaker 3 She basically threatened to release all the tapes that she had of Jared if the FBI didn't do anything about it because they kind of stopped their investigation. So then she called her local cops.

Speaker 3 She called the cops on the FBI. She was like, hey, I'd like to report a crime.
The FBI isn't doing their job investigating a crime. And so it put pressure on them and

Speaker 3 made them focus in their investigation, try to get some charges pressed. And Jared, I think Jared is going to be out of prison in like four or five years.

Speaker 3 I think he's scheduled to be released because as fucked up as like the stuff that he said that he did was in the conversations, they were only able to prove like the child porn stuff.

Speaker 3 They weren't able to prove that he did anything, even though he talked about all the other stuff that he had done. They didn't have enough evidence to make that stick.

Speaker 3 So, well, I think the wife got, what, like 20, 30 years in prison, something like that. And

Speaker 3 his business manager also got like 15 or 20 years. Jared's going to be out soon.

Speaker 1 It's fucked up. The whole thing was fucked up.
It was a very well done documentary. I also want to say shout out to there was two interviews that I loved.

Speaker 1 It was the FBI agent who did his interview in his car, like he was in a stakeout.

Speaker 3 Love that. And he wasn't looking at the camera.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he wasn't looking at the camera. And then there was the Indiana state police officer who did his interview in like a perfect Indiana steakhouse.
And it was just like, I know exactly where he is.

Speaker 1 He was sitting in the red tablecloth. Like, he was like, I just, he probably got a free lunch out of it.
It was those two interviews. I was just like,

Speaker 1 these guys picked this spot.

Speaker 3 I also liked the woman's radio co-host down in Florida. His name is Ozzie Osborne.
And he just looked like he had been sitting out in the sun for 50 years.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And that is

Speaker 1 interviews from a a bar yeah that's the most florida guy of all time yes anyone else got i mean it was it was like harrowing yeah go ahead jake yeah i know it was insane some of his specific quotes you mentioned them earlier they were just wild like they had to flash the warning like every five minutes during this documentary just to let you know that what you're about to hear is insane well i feel like it was made for tv but then it was on hbo that actually threw me off too because they were doing like dramatic commercial cuts i think it was because it was so

Speaker 1 effective. Yeah,

Speaker 5 that was crazy. And then, yeah, similar to what PFT said, turning in the FBI is

Speaker 5 going above their head is crazy.

Speaker 3 You would love a narc move like that, wouldn't you, Jake?

Speaker 5 Yeah, of course. But the fact that she knew this was going on and he was still out there, I think it was like three years.

Speaker 5 Like, that's just crazy that this couldn't have been stopped sooner.

Speaker 1 Whole thing was nuts. It really was.
But it was a great, very well done documentary. I think it was three parts.

Speaker 1 It's one of those documentaries you can do in one night, and it was definitely worth it.

Speaker 1 I was kind of thinking, too, because we did the Lynn Sanity documentary, and it's like overnight fame and overnight success. And Jeremy Lynn kind of used all that and is doing good with it.

Speaker 1 And then on the flip side, it's like Jared from Subway was just the worst human being to ever live. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Do you think he was like this before the fame?

Speaker 1 Well, I think they said it.

Speaker 1 They said it in the beginning where it's like your whole, you know, your whole life gets based off of if you know your young interactions and if you're just getting bullied all the time and no one wants to sit with you and everyone hates you like you just become

Speaker 3 that that's what I didn't like I didn't like that part about it how at the beginning they basically set the entire show up to say

Speaker 3 Jared had absolutely zero human contact when he was in middle school with anybody like girls wouldn't sit next to him almost like they were setting it up for the excuse to be Jared was just like trying to to relive the childhood that he never had.

Speaker 3 Whereas like pre-excusing it, but there are a lot of people that are nerds in middle school that don't end up doing the shit that Jared does.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. The whole thing was crazy.

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Speaker 3 One last question, Piccat. Who do you think is a worse spokesperson for Subway in terms of sales, Jared or Russell Wilson?

Speaker 1 Well, Jared did a lot for Subway in sales.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 I think like the net,

Speaker 3 he net damage to the brand, probably Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 Dude, I remember

Speaker 1 I tried out the Subway diet for a while there. I was just like, well, yeah, if it works, just get a Subway.
But then I was like getting meatball subs, which are so good.

Speaker 3 You have to get, I think he got like the dry turkey.

Speaker 3 No sauce, no manage.

Speaker 3 And now he's getting a different type of foot long.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. All All right.

Speaker 7 Not from a horse.

Speaker 1 How many times do you think that's maybe the most tweeted tweet of all things?

Speaker 3 It is. It is.
It was actually like such a tweeted tweet that I just realized that maybe if you've been on the internet just in the last like four years, you haven't really seen it.

Speaker 3 I think it, when what year did he get

Speaker 3 arrested in the year?

Speaker 1 2015, I think.

Speaker 3 That's probably the most commonly tweeted tweet in the year 2015.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Easily.

Speaker 1 All right, so go check out Max.com. What are we going to do next week? Do we have the list?

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 1 we got to pick a movie.

Speaker 3 We got to pick a movie. We'll do Man on Fire again.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Oh, could we do Cobra? Yeah. Cobra's awesome.
Sliced alone. No, remember, the heat is Melissa McCarthy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We could do that.
Something lighter. Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy?

Speaker 1 I'm up for whatever. There's a really funny sandwich.
Cobra better or worse. Is Cobra better or worse than Bloodsport?

Speaker 1 Cobra's...

Speaker 1 No, Bloodsport's the best movie of all time, so that's hard.

Speaker 1 The heat,

Speaker 1 not to give away any of the plot or anything, but there's just one really good scene where they're interrogating a witness, and Sandra Bullocks, like, throw the phone book at him, and Melissa McCarthy throws an actual phone book at him.

Speaker 1 Let's lighten it up.

Speaker 1 We think we put the listeners through enough this week.

Speaker 1 All right. Yeah, the heat.
All right, we're going to do the heat with Melissa McCarthy. It's a legitimately funny movie.
I'm sorry. Like, I actually think Bill Burr might be in it.

Speaker 1 He is going.

Speaker 1 I think he's in it. Yeah.
So we'll do the heat next week. Everyone watching on Max.com.
All right.

Speaker 1 Let's wrap up the show. By the way, we've got some awesome interviews coming from Tight End U.

Speaker 1 Travis Kelsey, Monday. Really, really good.

Speaker 1 I thought we had already met him a million times because he was that cool and fun to be around. The way he dapped us up, I was like, do we, have we met? But he's just the man.

Speaker 1 And Delhi confronts confronts him that was that oh sorry keep it on p t billy confronts him yeah billy confronts lucky to be alive yeah lucky to be alive yeah so that actually is a good lead-in for my firefest because travis kelcey was a great interview obviously you know the patriots chiefs rivalry never never rooted against them but it was always like you know we got to beat the chiefs to to win the super bowl so i never rooted for him never you know loved him or mahomes But obviously the Patriots aren't as good now.

Speaker 1 They're the champs. He was great interview.
And then after after hours, me and Billy were, it was entertaining clients hours. And he was just funny.
He was a funny guy.

Speaker 1 He had some callbacks to the interview. And I left the bar being like, I love Travis Kelsey.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Dude, the guy moves different.

Speaker 3 He just moves different.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you say,

Speaker 1 that's your Firefest? You love it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I legitimately was like, I like, you know, he was as good,

Speaker 1 not to overhype it, but he was

Speaker 1 great on it. And afterwards, I was like, Travis Kelsey is a fucking man.
I was like, I kind of feel like I kind of always hated Travis Kelsey, but now I just, now I'm a huge fan of his.

Speaker 3 It's like, never meet your heroes, but the opposite. Never meet your enemies.
You might end up falling in love.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Literally.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. I also lost a pair of headphones, but we were in three cities in a week and a half.
Yeah, you're fine. PFT.

Speaker 3 I had a pretty clean week. I would say my Fire Fest is also tight end you related.
We went to that bar after we're done with all the interviews on,

Speaker 3 I forget the day, Tuesday night. Tuesday night, we go out to the bar and it's all tight ends hanging out in this bar.
And that's just not a place I need to be standing. It's not.
It really isn't.

Speaker 3 Everybody was 6'4.

Speaker 3 As a 5'8 and 3 quarters man, it is...

Speaker 3 It's emasculating, to say the least. So I just found a seat as quickly as I could.
And I was like, I need to be sitting down. That way people aren't like, oh, this guy's short.
No, he's sitting down.

Speaker 3 I told Billy that, which was a a mistake.

Speaker 3 I said, I should not be standing up here. This feels very awkward.
And then Billy, about 15 minutes later, proceeds to tweet out, like, man, I'm around all these huge guys.

Speaker 3 Now I know what it's like for the TFT to be in any bar.

Speaker 1 So I stole it from you.

Speaker 3 He used my own joke to insult me.

Speaker 6 No, no, because I felt that way. I was trying to get a beer with Hank at After Hours, and there was a whole line of NFL titles.

Speaker 1 It's called Aftes.

Speaker 3 Aftes, whatever.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to get a a clear.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we weren't out that late. I was trying to get a beer, and like, not to brag, I'm like, I kind of like to think that I'm really good at getting beers at crowded bars.

Speaker 1 I was at this bar with

Speaker 1 gigantic tight ends.

Speaker 3 That's Billy's specialty. That's the thing that he's the most talented in the world at is buying a beer.

Speaker 1 Getting beers.

Speaker 6 Crowded beers. So I'm trying to get through these gigantic dudes at the bar.
And like, no one was giving any way. I couldn't body anybody to get a like a beer.

Speaker 6 And it was like you needed to be Nick Bosa to get a beer at that bar.

Speaker 1 Hank can attest.

Speaker 6 Hank got stuck.

Speaker 1 PFT,

Speaker 1 what didn't help as well is that PFT and I, because we did a ton of interviews on Tuesday. It was one of our longest days that we've had.
So we like never went back.

Speaker 1 So PFT also was wearing a backpack in the bar. And that's always, I was also wearing a backpack.
And it sucks.

Speaker 1 There's no worse feeling than walking into a bar with a backpack and being like, hey, guys, what's up?

Speaker 3 I looked like a seventh grader. It was bad.
It was a bad visual for me, but you have to be self-aware in those scenarios and know when you're not, you're not, you're not meant to be there.

Speaker 3 Maybe in a past life, I could have pulled it off if I still partied as hard as I used to, but I don't. And so I was just like, you know what? The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was, there was a lot of big dudes. All right, my Fire Fest, I did tweet this earlier this week, but my Fire Fest, my, so I left tight end university 6 a.m.

Speaker 1 on Wednesday when everyone went to do the uh drills my son was graduating from being three to four i don't know why they had a graduation but they did um and i cried and i think i'm just the cried i'm the i'm the i'm the dad that cries now like i shouldn't be crying it from three to four but i was crying you're like dick for meal yeah it's it was it was uh eye-opening.

Speaker 1 I think I'm just gonna let, I think I'm just gonna let it be. I'm just gonna be like, I'm gonna be any, anything that like is the passing of time with my kids.

Speaker 1 I'm just gonna cry and I'm not gonna care care about it.

Speaker 3 It's good. It feels healthy.
It feels good to cry. Yeah, exactly.
It kicks her onto something.

Speaker 1 Also, shout out teachers. Just a shout out because teachers rock.
You had two great teachers and

Speaker 1 I don't know how teachers deal with a bunch of three-year-olds running around all day.

Speaker 1 It is probably the hardest job in the world. So shout out teachers.
They party hard.

Speaker 3 That's what teachers do. Also, yeah, I agree with you.
Shout out teachers. Love teachers,

Speaker 3 but they get after it.

Speaker 1 yeah, they need to because I like,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's a lot, and he had two really, really good ones.

Speaker 1 So, uh, yeah, I cried, and then I also cried also a little bit on Wednesday night, but that was because I ate some mushrooms and John Mayer was going off at Denco.

Speaker 1 But that was more like a tears of joy kind of thing, so really emotional day for me on Wednesday. Yeah, all the highs and lows.

Speaker 3 You were like Noshan Moreno, listening to the national anthem or Nick Siriani, yeah, listening to John Mayer play guitar and mushrooms. Hell yeah, one time

Speaker 3 I was in Hong Kong when I did the MDMA with Donnie at the rugby at the Rugby Sevens tournament, and I cried just because Carlin Isles was so fast that he made me cry. It was beautiful.

Speaker 3 Shit will happen.

Speaker 1 Remember the time when I cried in Nashville when we got so high going to the Super Bowl and everyone went out to dinner and I was too high to go out to dinner because I got down to the lobby and Larry the bus driver was like, where are we going out to dinner?

Speaker 1 And I was like, I can't deal with this. So I went back upstairs and

Speaker 1 I was watching a college basketball game. I was watching like Syracuse versus Duke play in like the 50s.

Speaker 1 And then I flipped over to the Warriors and they were making every shot and I cried a little because I was like, this is fucking beautiful. So it's okay.

Speaker 1 Moral of the story is it's okay to cry if it's about your kids or sports or John Mayer being a fucking beast.

Speaker 1 The guitar PFT, you would have second set. He threw out his back in the intermission.
He did the entire second set from an office chair and was just like shredding, just like nothing had happened.

Speaker 1 It was, it was a flu game.

Speaker 3 Guitar is sports. It really is.

Speaker 7 And I'll put my hand up.

Speaker 3 I was a John Mayer hater as recently as probably like seven years ago, eight years ago, because I never actually really listened to him. I was just like, oh, this guy can't be that good at guitar.

Speaker 3 Because as you're growing up, you're learning how to play. You learn from all the greats and you listen to like classic rock, that type of shit.

Speaker 3 It just does not compute in your head that a modern popular musician can be that talented to be on the same level as some of the all-time greats. John Mayer, fucks.

Speaker 1 He's so good, dude. He is so goddamn good.
I mean, he made me cry. He's that good.
He made me cry. Might have been the mushrooms, but he still made me cry.
Yep. Those were for John Mayer.
Those tears.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 full second set in an office chair. What a beast.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 6 I want to put my cue collar on for this one.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 So I don't hurt my brain talking about this.

Speaker 1 We need the cue collars when you talk. I know.
Everyone should. All the AWS.

Speaker 3 Put your cue collars on now.

Speaker 1 Billy's about to speak.

Speaker 6 I barked up the wrong tree.

Speaker 6 I got a little, I was feeling myself at tight end university. I was running some, doing some drills.
Check out PM TV next Thursday. It's going to have all of it in it.
It's actually really awesome.

Speaker 6 And I challenged Will Compton to one-on-ones.

Speaker 6 And i got the clamps put on me i tried to run a couple fades on him and failed and you know looking back the best man won uh he just plays next level defense and uh i couldn't get it over but billy the throws were the throws were late shut up hank nope nope i'm not gonna comment i could have made a play i could have made a play look you're never gonna get a perfect situation I could have made a play and I didn't make the play.

Speaker 6 One thing I will say is that if you watch the tape, like Will Compton just throws, like he played my hands perfectly on the one rep and I couldn't bring it, come down with it.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 3 Hank, I recall you saying probably, I don't know, 300 times during football season, if you can touch it, you can catch it.

Speaker 3 Pray tell, where did that second pass hit Billy on that beautiful goal line fade that I threw?

Speaker 6 No, I couldn't make a play on the ball and I couldn't come down with it.

Speaker 1 I was repeating what Billy said after, right after.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, right after Billy initially.

Speaker 1 The funniest part of the clip. Come on, we're trying to be adults.
We're trying to be rational.

Speaker 1 That's a power move. That's

Speaker 1 in the air. That's how you write it because I thought I had it.

Speaker 3 I thought before Billy reaches out to catch it. He goes, pussy, and then Will just hits it out of his hand.

Speaker 1 So, Billy,

Speaker 1 Will is the best.

Speaker 1 He obviously makes fun of himself a lot. He did play in the NFL.

Speaker 1 I know, but like

Speaker 1 a better athlete than you by leaps and bounds. I know, but like in my brain,

Speaker 1 11.

Speaker 6 I don't fault my brain for giving me the gift of being way too overconfident and thinking that I'm just being delusional.

Speaker 6 It's gotten me a lot of places. It makes me fail a lot, but you know what?

Speaker 6 I got to test myself. And my brain's just testing my body all the time.

Speaker 1 This is like when we have the argument every year, like, could Alabama beat so-and-so team? And you're like, well, that team is full of draft picks, and they all play in the NFL.

Speaker 1 So they're all very, very, very, very good. Even if they're not, even though the 53rd man on the roster, they're still better than a lot of guys.

Speaker 3 So, could Williams beat Nebraska in football?

Speaker 3 Maybe if they called the linebackers on Nebraska for pass interference, maybe.

Speaker 1 Scott Frost, if Scott Frost was coaching, he'd find a way to lose.

Speaker 6 In 2022, Williams

Speaker 6 was one of the only undefeated teams in the NCAA.

Speaker 1 Are they in the NCAA?

Speaker 6 Yeah, technically.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 It was also great to see to see Gronk run around out there. That was my other

Speaker 1 last note from Tight End U is he was

Speaker 1 just running around there like a player, and it's good to see. Yeah, come soon.
Gronk,

Speaker 3 I don't want to report anything, but Rob Gronkowski was in the front row paying extra close attention to the coaching that they were doing at Tight End university.

Speaker 3 He was actually like participating in the drills, listening very intently. I don't make it that what you will, but he was trying to get better at playing tight end.

Speaker 3 For what reason that might be, I don't know.

Speaker 6 He was also, by the way, I have to say, Greg Olson, I was like in there. Greg Olson is an amazing coach.
Like, just from

Speaker 1 amazing.

Speaker 6 Yeah. He's an amazing guy, but like, just seeing him coach like what he knows up front, he's amazing in the booth, but that guy, like,

Speaker 6 He's amazing in the booth, but he should be coaching.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, I'm just saying. I just triggered.
I had one other Firefest real quick. I Greg Olson, we interviewed him.
He'll come out in the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's all time, you know, he's been a stoolie for 12 years. He's been on the show a bunch.
He's a legitimate friend. So I met his son, and we were like joking around.

Speaker 1 I think his son's like maybe around like 10 or 11. And I was like, so like, Greg, you got him.
Are you getting him into barstool yet? And Greg's like, he's not there yet. I was like, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 He's not guessing that ass. And then everyone was like, what did you just say, dude?

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, that was probably too much.

Speaker 1 Kelsey actually heard that and just walked away.

Speaker 1 So, whoops, that was my mistake. I mean, the joke landed.
Greg laughed. Yeah.
It's a good joke.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
It's a good joke.

Speaker 1 All right. Jake.

Speaker 3 Oh, one other note from Tight End University, and I guess we'll probably see this on PM TV.

Speaker 3 Josh Allen saw Max.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And had a reaction to seeing Max.

Speaker 1 Don't spoil it.

Speaker 3 Don't spoil it. Don't spoil it.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure.

Speaker 6 PMT Thursday, Thursday.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Find out what Josh's reaction to seeing Max was.

Speaker 1 Wow. I'm the only one that doesn't know this.

Speaker 5 I'm on the edge of my seat.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's good.

Speaker 5 Tune in on Thursday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's good. It's good.
Jake, finish us off.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so last week I was on Long Island playing golf with my cousin, and we had a rainstorm, lightning, thunder after the fifth hole. So we had to leave.
Went back to his house,

Speaker 5 had ended up taking his twin daughters to a roller skating, drop-off birthday party. And he walked in, dropped them off.
I was sitting in the car. He texted me five minutes later.

Speaker 5 It wasn't a drop-off.

Speaker 5 I was stuck at a roller skating rink for two hours after thinking I'd be playing golf an hour before.

Speaker 1 Wait, that's...

Speaker 1 Did he leave you in the car like a dog?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Oh, you came in to the party?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I walked in.

Speaker 1 Oh, get your roller skating blades?

Speaker 5 No, no, I didn't.

Speaker 1 Wait,

Speaker 1 you only played five holes?

Speaker 5 Five holes, and then ended up at a roller skating ring for two hours.

Speaker 1 What hole was the fake hole-in-one planned for?

Speaker 5 I think it was seven.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that's the

Speaker 1 extra insult to injury. Anything else? I know.

Speaker 1 all of us uh there is cake yeah i i i stayed away you didn't eat the cake no i wasn't supposed to be there so what'd you end up doing did you just sit at a table the entire time

Speaker 1 i just stood up to the side jake were you standing

Speaker 1 i think i think jake roller skated wait jake were you standing or sitting

Speaker 1 at least you played an arcade game Yeah, you stand off to the side and look at the arcade games. Did you play any?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I just played on my phone.

Speaker 3 For two hours? What kind of battery you got on that thing? I mean, you were just on the course a second ago. Probably didn't have a full charge.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I made it work. That's hilarious, Jake.
Yeah, I think he roller skated, Jake.

Speaker 1 I think he roller skated. Yeah.
I think he rollers.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. Memes is there.

Speaker 1 Let's go, memes.

Speaker 1 Memes also just texted me. I took a couple of your zins.
I will pay you back. What is What are you going to do? What are you going to pay me? 50 cents?

Speaker 5 You're going to have a new 10 on your deck.

Speaker 1 I don't need one. You're good, memes.
You're good by me.

Speaker 6 I've thought of doing that so many times. I can't believe you actually took your Zins.

Speaker 1 You're good by me, memes. You're good, bro.

Speaker 1 Memes, have you ever gotten this? No.

Speaker 3 Numbers.

Speaker 6 69.

Speaker 1 I thought you didn't care about 69 anymore, Billy. 21.

Speaker 6 No, well, now that I got this cue collar on, all this blood's in my brain, and I'm operating on a different level. I might start rocking this all the time.
You guys are in for world trouble.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's got a cockering for your head. I'll go with eight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 20. Hank, what'd you guess? 21.
I'll go 17.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna go with one.

Speaker 1 Mean zero gotten it.

Speaker 1 92.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 3 92.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 Mets 92. There we go.
Paid your Wimbenyama.

Speaker 5 Fifth time.

Speaker 1 All right. Yeah.
Monday. Travis Kelsey, and we will be back together as a group on Tuesday and Thursday this week.
So Mount Rushmore season will continue to be contentious.

Speaker 1 And we'll see everyone on Monday.

Speaker 3 Love you guys.

Speaker 6 Will Compton East give me another rep.

Speaker 6 to say I'd say anyway

Speaker 6 Today's a molar day to find you to shine away

Speaker 6 I've been coming for your love

Speaker 6 I'll be

Speaker 6 God

Speaker 6 to say

Speaker 6 I'm on sentence

Speaker 6 for a peace turned away

Speaker 6 Feeling

Speaker 6 like this okay

Speaker 6 say unto me

Speaker 6 It's no better to be safe saved than sorry, than sorry, than sorry, than sorry.

Speaker 6 Say

Speaker 6 come

Speaker 6 me,

Speaker 6 take

Speaker 6 me

Speaker 6 I'll be

Speaker 6 gone

Speaker 6 and I take

Speaker 6 Things that you say,

Speaker 6 oh, just wave my worries away.

Speaker 6 You're all the things I've got to remember. You're shy and away.

Speaker 6 I was coming for you anyway, anyway.

Speaker 6 Take

Speaker 6 on

Speaker 6 me,

Speaker 6 Take

Speaker 6 me

Speaker 6 up

Speaker 6 I'll be

Speaker 6 gone