George Kittle, Mt Rushmore Of Famous Football Plays, NBA Draft And Chris Paul Traded To The Warriors

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On today's part of my take, we have our good friend George Kittle from his compound. He's got a compound in Nashville, whole gym.
We went and visited him. We did a great interview with him, talked about

everything. And then we did a Mount Rushmore with him.
George is taking Jake's place for just this Mount Rushmore teaming up with Billy. We did the Mount Rushmore of famous football plays.
We're going to talk NBA draft. We're going to talk Chris Paul to the Warriors, Marcus Smart to the Grizzlies.
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Boys! Boys! Now in the street there is violence and I'm not allowed to solve to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher oh we gotta rock down to it's part of my take presented by barstool sports welcome to part of my take today is friday june 23rd and pft welcome to wembentonio that was great wasn't it marty smith Smith got dressed up like a kid getting dressed up like Kid Rock for Halloween. And it was actually more Joe Dirt.
It was like Kid Rock as a child getting dressed up like Joe Dirt for Halloween. Shaved Wembin Yama's face into the back of his head and just went out there and delivered a speech for the ages at half court in San Antonio.
Marty Smithy smith seems like the nicest guy in the world and i don't think this is a knock on him because i think he just gets sent out by espn to do these type of things where they're like hey we're gonna do a a funny hit from anywhere in the south send marty smith i i hate the word cringe but that that moment when he turned and he held it for extra long and was like, check it out. See, it's Wembenyam in the back of my head.
Wembentonio. It took my breath away.
So it was something. It was quite something.
Actually rent-free, like literally living rent-free in the back of Marty Smith's head. I wouldn't be surprised if Nick Wright had LeBron just constantly stenciled, probably tattooed onto the back of his head.
Yes. Yeah, well, he's got – I saw there's these new tattoos, which we got to check out PFT.
Maybe that's – maybe we do that for the commander's Bears bet. Someone hit me up.
There's new tattoos that last for three years. Maybe Nick Wright just does LeBron in his, like, different jersey, knowing that he won't be there for more than three years so he doesn't he can worry he doesn't have to worry about it they need to make one for six or for four days for chris paul for chris paul i did i was on my way to uh to the tattoo parlor today because i'm going to get a tattoo plaid half sleeve and i was going to add chris paul on there as well um right before i ran my marathon and uh then i fortunately i turned woge notifications on so what what an era in dc sports not the chris paul era i'd say if the wizards win a ring he should get one chris paul should get a championship ring you you did that you went to the tattoo parlor in the tandem bike that we're going to ride around manhattan as well it was awesome it was uh it was a whimsical journey it's light when it's only one of you it's rained every Friday in New York since we made that arrangement back in 2020 it's been wild it's gonna rain tomorrow um so yeah NBA draft tonight uh what are I mean the big takeaways are there's a lot of guys that play in the G League and like overtime elite that I never watched play college ball.
And so when their names pop up, I'm like, wait, did I see? Oh, no, he played for the Juice or the Elite or some other team. Grady Dick's whole outfit I actually am a big fan of because if your name's Grady Dick dick you have to find a way to make your outfit so loud that people will point to the outfit before they point to your last name so i thought that was actually a very heady play by him yeah no if you're dick you have to look as much like a vagina as possible that way people forget what your actual last name is it was it was a great suit i liked it a lot it was um it gave off like david bowie vibes if david bowie was the singer of the talking heads yes and it was uh it was good look great grady dick i didn't realize how strong his tiktok game was i did a little perusing of old grady oh yeah he's a big dancer oh yeah yeah he's a big dancer he got like the whole team involved in his tiktok last year there should be i was actually no no i was gonna say there should be a baby gronk version of him but then that would that would be baby yeah we already have him he makes one-handed catches all the time in buffalo he looks fucking awesome yeah baby digs not baby dick yes um so nba draft should we go let's go around and everyone say their favorite draft pick.
I think that's the best way to do it. Okay.
Cause, cause you know, uh, look the NBA draft, they try to make it, they try to make it a big deal. Kind of like the NFL draft.
There's a pretty big difference. Uh, not as many people watch college basketball as college football.
And also a lot of the guys in the NBA draft only play one year in college basketball whereas in the nfl draft it feels like you've been watching these guys for years and years and years um it's still fun it's still like it is there are these heartwarming moments the fact that there are twins back to back was fucking awesome um and everyone's like watching these guys realize their dream is very cool and And my biggest takeaway was Michigan didn't make the tournament. And they had two, I think, lottery picks.
It wasn't two lottery picks, but two first-rounders and also had an All-American center. They didn't make the tournament.

Those are always the interesting times when it's like you see a loaded team

get picked and you're like, wait, they weren't in the tournament?

That's weird.

Yeah, Juwan Howard's the new Coach Cal.

That is what made me feel really, really old,

was Juwan Howard has a son that just got drafted in the NBA.

Yes.

At that point, it's like, okay, I'm officially washed.

Officially, officially. Until this very moment, I thought that there was a chance i could play in the nba at some point and then when you see the son of a guy that you remember getting drafted also getting drafted that's that's tough it it wasn't even it wasn't even the fact that he got drafted that was like a moment like oh shit because obviously i knew he was team last year at Michigan.
It was when they told the anecdote that he used to play like hoops when Juwan was on the heat. That was Juwan Howard's last stop.
Yeah. Like it wasn't even it was it was like, yeah, he you know, he really came into it.
You know, like he really got to be around a bunch of pros in 2010. That hurt.
Juwan Howard is an all-time bag getter in the NBA. If you look at his contract that he got, Jesus, that dude's agent is a fucking genius.
He got like $150 million guaranteed when dudes were not getting over $100 million guaranteed. Yeah, he 150 million in his entire nba career um all right should we do best picks favorite picks i like wimbenyama big cat okay nice i think i give that i give that grade um i give that an a okay a a not a plus no i give i give that an a i give grady dick to toronto but it's E-H.
Okay, okay. I'll go with my best pick.
Jaime Jaquez to the heat, like perfect heat culture. He's going to have a series probably next NBA playoffs where he somehow averages like 25 points a game out of nowhere.
And maybe it's a a little bit of a distortion where remember when the Spurs had their run and every time they drafted anyone, you're like, Oh, perfect spur. So it could be just a cult, but obviously watching him forever at UCLA, he is the perfect heat culture guy.
And he will be, he'll be a very good player in the NBA because he got drafted by the heat. It's like when, when ravens draft anybody on defense in the first round it's like oh shit we all forgot about that guy yeah that guy is definitely going to be a fit in miami um i think i think brandon miller is kind of a genius because they they interviewed him the other day and he said that uh his goat his favorite player in nba history is paul george that that to me tells me he's thinking two steps ahead because he knew that charlotte wanted to draft him they asked him who your favorite player in nba history is that tells me his favorite player is lebron and he knew that he could not say that it was lebron james because michael jordan is still very much involved in the draft process for Charlotte, even though he sold the team.

Yeah, which makes no sense. Yeah, he's still like the one making decisions, which, yeah, makes zero sense whatsoever.
But Brendan Miller knew that he couldn't say my favorite player is LeBron because then Jordan would be like, fuck you, I'm not drafting you, just out of spite. See, I thought it was a similar situation in the Grady Dick suit where he says Paul George and then every interview he does after that, they don't talk about what happened in Alabama.
They're like, hey, because this is how the internet works. Everyone wants to get the viral clip.
They're like, hey, do you really think it's Paul George? So he basically just shifted the entire narrative where he is the Paul George is the goat guy instead of everything that happened in Alabama. Yeah, no,fer I think it was a genius move on his part everybody was like this guy's insane no no he's so sane that you are the ones that are insane for not realizing that that was a great move on his part if you guys were a front office though in the Hornets and you're an analytics nerd imagine getting in an argument with Michael Jordan being like we should take this person and he's like no that no i'm michael jordan and i'm michael jordan that is why the hornets have not been very good i would say right but what are you supposed to do no you can't do anything you can't do anything how many times has has uh an equation won six nba titles exactly never never well i guess it was triangle offense yeah um all right hank what's your favorite pick uh my favorite pick it was gonna be brandon miller i'll go with scoot henderson i just liked i like the outrage uh that came with that pick i feel like part of it is just it wouldn't matter who the hornets took their fans were gonna be mad yeah and i like having the it's kind of you know i like having the the debate and and the the freak out videos like you know jalen hurts got drafted chris saps porzingis like there was all these epic freak out videos and then when they're good people are like oh yeah you look like an idiot and i like i like the turmoil that jalen hurts right there just curious a different sport why'd you throw in jalen hurts well i was just thinkingoo video.
Yeah. Of him freaking out.
Daniel Jones. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
People freaking out and then having him be good. I also like Scoot Henderson.
Every draft analyst has been like, so yeah, maybe he's not great at shooting, but he's got that dog. They all have to say that subtly.
Like, yeah, he's not a great shooter, but he's a competitor, and he's going to win. And his name's Scoot.
You can get better at shooting. You can't change your name to Scoot after you get drafted.
That's true. What they say on draft night is what you're going to be stuck with.
Unless you're on our test. Metal world peace.
Yeah. Max, what was your favorite? I almost don't even want to say it because it's bullshit, but Cam Whitmore going 20 is, I guess, the best value of the draft.
Oh, okay. Villanova.
I mean, Villanova is the most year in and year out. They get disrespected in the draft every year, and then they outperform their expectations time and time again.
So I guess this will just be another case. Okay, another chip on your shoulder.
Jake, do you have a favorite pick? Yeah, besides Tommy Hawkins to the heat, like you mentioned, good for Jordan Hawkins getting a lottery pick, the final lottery pick going from national championship at UConn to lottery pick. What a run in terms of three months for that for him and Coach Hurley.
Yes, yes, good pick by the Pelicans. And then Billy, pull up the draft real quick.
Let's hear it. No.
My real surprise is like how crazy that in the top seven picks, five aren't from college basketball. Yes.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like what's going wrong? What's wrong with the American system? You know? Some of them are American. There are American.
What's right. Five out of seven.
Right. Also, I think that Victor Wimbanyama might not be as French as he lets on.
He, he speaks real good English, real good English. And how better than us, how pretty definitely better than us.
He definitely spells better than I do. How French can you really be if your name is Victor? That's not, to me, that's not a French word at all.
Yeah, true. They don't know the definition of that.
All right, so good. Yeah, so not a pick, Billy, just a thought.
Just a thought. Okay, I like that.
Thoughts on the draft. I like it.
Are the Mets, are the French Mets, are they like the Angels in baseball

where they've got the two best players by far

and then they just can't win a championship?

So I was listening to Windhorse.

I think it was on his podcast last week.

He was saying that the team, they basically built an entire team

to get Victor Wembenyama better ready for for the NBA. Like they got rid of like all their old guys and brought in young guys just so he could practice harder and longer and like, and, and, you know, the guys could push him.
And so it was like, and, and he was telling a story about, um, the actual team facility is like a wreck gym that ESPN when they did their photo shoot with victor wembanyama uh rented out the gym so the team couldn't practice that day i don't hate that strategy because they've never had as much advertisement for their team as they had today like getting two players in the top 10 is incredible i guess the team might not even i don't know know if they have relegation in French basketball, but the team might not exist anymore after he leaves. So it was all built just as a way to get him better ready for NBA basketball.
I also just love the fact that they're called the Mets. That's such a funny name for French basketball.
Isn't it like the Mets 96 or something? Mets 92. 92.
Yeah, Mets 92. Okay.
Yeah. Boulogne, Lavoie, Metropolitan's 92.
Sorry for my French. Pardon my French.
Okay. That was good, Jake.
Yeah, that was good. Okay.
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the uh news uh should we talk about let's do Marcus Smart first uh Marcus Smart got traded

to the Grizzlies Hank was very sad lashed out at Max um the Grizzlies got or so it was a three-way

trade the Celtics got Chris Stops.

Who went to – did Brogdon go to – no, Brogdon wasn't in it because it was supposed to be in the Clippers trade that didn't go through.

Brogdon screwed it all up.

Yeah, because of medical.

So what was the trade exactly, Hank?

Do you have it in front of you?

Marcus Smart is on the Grizzlies.

Chris Stops is on the Celtics.

I don't know the rest of it.

There's a couple picks too. Yeah, the Wizards got – The Wizards got Gallinari.
Oh, they got Tyus Jones too. Yeah, Tyus Jones.
Who will be good. Nice young piece.
I thought the Wizards got Gallinari. I don't think so.
Hank, so you're sad. Yeah, I mean, it's sad.
Marcus Smart. When I first started working at Barstool was the 2014 year after he got drafted.
That's when I started paying a lot closer attention. He was on, you know, those bad rebuilding teams, heart and soul of the team.
Obviously, it was great watching him through this last run. He never changed.
He never switched up. He was fun to watch.
He was, you know, he would drive you nuts sometimes but you loved you loved

watching him and it's just it's a good deal and i i don't hate porzingis i think the celtics are still making more moves so that part makes it a little you know easier to swallow but it's still sad still you know it's like a breakup yeah one below mikhail and bird right yeah well that was That was a callback joke to 2014.

I actually do empathize with hank and sympathize with him i do both but uh i it always sucks when you lose a fan favorite like that a guy that that busts his ass all the time even when it seemed like they didn't have you know a shot at winning anything through the bad years and he was always like a fun high energy guy to watch that sucks for for hank and for max i know that max loved marcus smart yeah no the wizards did get gone are by the way who i was like i was i was excited to watch him play this year obviously he got hurt and it that was like that's just a little little stinger where it's like you were kind of hoping like oh once we have gone are back we're going to be sick and then he just never played for a second. Yeah.
We got Gallinari and what's his name? The Italian guy. Muscala.
Muscala. The, it is, it is always in sports when you lose a guy who, it feels like he cares as much or even more than the fans.
That always is like, it's different because. Sorry, keep going.
Yeah, no, it just, it just is different. It different.
There's a different attachment to a guy like that who – it's a job for a lot of these guys. Obviously, they want to win, but it always felt like Marcus Smart carried that extra bit, and he seemed like a really good dude.
And, yeah, you were sad last night. Yeah, there was news that came out today too, that basically it was supposed to be brogged in the Celtics thought they were going to trade brogged.
And the, the injury physical stuff happened where they kind of had to reassess and make a quick decision. And Marcus smart barely knew the news.
So that like kind of sucks where it's like a guy who gave his heart and soul for the team just kind of gets like sprung on him. He's getting traded.
Uh, and a nice story. Shout out to Marcus smart.
Great great guy he's doing his children's annual children's camp next week and and the foundation tweeted like we we texted marcus obviously if he wanted to postpone given the recent events he's like absolutely not got to do it for the kids so just a great dude sad day i didn't lash out at all at max i didn't say anything infactual he i was mad i was upset and then i was thinking about the show the other

day when fake celtics fan max said his favorite player was marcus smart and then he got traded like i said he's fat bad luck brian with a soul patch which is true like literally everything in his life is the top meme of bad luck brian like says marcus smart's his favorite player traded next day like the fat part unnecessary

in factual in factual what's in factual in factual I just looked it up just to double check it's a non this is the definition a non-existent word that no matter how many times you smack someone upside the head trying to correct them they refuse to believe the word is actually the word the word itself isn't factual yes wait what's who said infactual you said infactual without fact i don't know i don't it's inside the fact sure that infactual the word is unfactual yeah you're you're infactual better speaker than us, it happens. Yeah, but Hank, the fat comment seemed a little bit unnecessary.
That was lashing out. Max, I don't want to be this guy.
Fact or fiction. In fact, or in fiction.
You guys talk about it all day. I'm like, it's the same thing when I say it to Big Cat.
All you guys talk about is how fat you then I, a skinny guy, say it and you guys are like there's a tone it was a tweet there was a tone to your tweet there's a reason why every response was like whoa what is going on here yeah that's Twitter there's just a bunch of pussies i don't think he's that if you think if you think that twitter is is being a pussy by i don't know what i'm trying to say okay now we got two titans we got two titans facing off here in a debate the fuck the fuck the uh rfk uh doctor debate we got hank and max going toe to toe right now we're like we're like that ref from the boxing meme. We're just back and forth.
And neither of them are throwing punches. They're just like going at it.
No one's landed anything. The CompuBox is like, well, Hank used a word that doesn't exist, and Max literally can't speak.
Max said Twitter is pussy. Where was that going? Do you think Twitter's's pussy no it's just that that's a wild thing to say be like oh yeah twitter's a bunch way too big of a pussy to ever call max fat as if that's not like the only response to any picture that's ever tweeted about me max isn't that fat you would have been able to get stiff on that hard if you were having.
It was more, not saying you're fat.

I'm just saying Bad Luck Brian's smaller.

So, like, to give people a visual representation of what I was talking about,

I just mean an enlarged version of Bad Luck Brian.

Actually, Hank was doing a really nice favor for you, Max,

because if he didn't.

I was just trying to mourn the loss of my favorite player.

That's the problem here.

Like, I got the news, got really upset.

I said earlier in the day, because PFT was like, Jalen Brown's going to get traded and he's your favorite player. I'm like, yeah, that does stink.
But actually, Marcus Smart's my favorite player. And I said that because I mentioned because Marcus Smart is my favorite player on the Celtics.
And then I get the news and it's like a slap right across the face. And then all of a sudden, I'm upset.
I'm about to text Hank and be like, yo, man, this sucks. You know when you text your boys when a really bad loss happens? No words.
And then all of a sudden, it's just slander. It's insults, it's insults, it's slander.
It's not slander. It's facts.
You're a fake Celtics fan and you're bad luck, Brian. But actually Hank explaining it that way he was doing you a favor because if he said you were bad luck Brian without qualifying that you're fatter people would have replied and been like he's not bad luck Brian he's too fat for that so he was actually helping you getting in front of it disagree and I still am waiting on the apology oh good luck yeah good luck that's never happening i'm waiting on pft's apology for fucking leroy i'm happy you brought that up because i'm not fucking leroy this isn't no this is not this isn't i'm not i don't fuck your dog i don't love fucking dogs you ruined the integrity of this podcast we had a million responses being like you guys don't know ball is bullshit.
Because he tweeted Jalen Brown's getting traded in a situation that's not even possible. Hank, it actually is possible.
And it's Leroy, my dead dog that you're upset with, not me. Okay? Leroy gets 60% of his – Let him sleep, PFT.
He gets 60% of his scoops right. That's what he does.
He's dead. So this might be in the 40%.
It might be in the 60%. We won't know.
Hank just kept yelling at pft yesterday being like your dog is dead your dog is dead let your dog die my dead dog does actually live rent-free in hank's head yeah you were so angry whatever whatever you were so mad i love all you guys um all right so one thing one thing i do know about the grizzlies though is they're going to have the top team not to be fucked with in terms of just beating the shit out of you they got marcus smart they got steven adams and they have ja moran who will shoot you yeah on the same team the marcus smart was literally built for memphis he is the grit and grind grizzlies all over again yeah it's the perfect trade for them like he is he's going to be perfect

for them yeah so they're gonna beat the shit out of people next year they're gonna be fun to watch um all right other trade chris paul uh in maybe the most hilarious twist in the nba this year uh got traded to the warriors and if he does in fact stay on the warriors which it seems like the Warriors want him to, he is now going to be Steph Curry's backup, a guy who's had beef with for, I don't know, like six, seven years now. And he might win a ring as Steph Curry's backup, which would be just so, so fitting for Chris Paul.
Like, he said that he talked to Steph and he's excited. There's no way he's excited.
They've gone toe- to toe for it feels like yeah it's like seven eight years now and there's just no way he's happy about this who on the Warriors has Chris Paul hitting the dick in the past I know he's landed a couple nut shots on him right I don't know so there's a couple things there was there was so Chris Paul like was kind of Steph Curry's mentor when Steph Curry was first in the

league. And then Steph Curry became the best player

in the league and started winning rings when it was supposed to be

Chris Paul's time. We also had the Houston series,

both those series back-to-back. We had, remember, the famous Chris

Paul laugh, laugh, laugh face to Steve Kerr. This year, Steph Curry drove on Chris Paul in a game and scored on him and then started screaming in his face, it's not 2014 anymore.
It's not 2014 anymore. We also had in that Rockets Warriors, it's pretty deep, Rockets Warriors series, I think it was the second one, Chris Paul denied Steph Curry being able to practice on the court before the game, and then the Warriors won the series and was like, you're not going to let me on this court, you're not going to let me on this court in the tunnel, and then finally, I think it was in 2019 or so, Chris Paul was asked to make his perfect point guard.
And he went through the list and he picked Gilbert Arenas for shot making. Yeah.
Yeah. No, game respect game.
So they don't like each other. They do not like each other.
And now Chris Paul is going to be his backup. I respect that take.
Yeah. Gilbert Arenas.
People sleep on Gilbert Arenas just because, oh, Steph Curry. Steph Curry ruined basketball.
Gilbert Gilbert Arenas just made basketball beautiful I agree with Chris on that one but uh yeah it's it's it's gonna be it's gonna be weird fit um it seems like the Warriors have become a team that's just like on the brink emotionally recently well Jordan Poole Draymond was that Draymond Draymond might not come back next year we we don't know what's going on with that Jordan Poole getting him out of there I think that's a great trade for both the Warriors and for the Wizards I'd agree because because the Wizards need to tank they should have tanked a year ago before they gave Bradley Beal the no trade clause they should have started this process of tanking over 12 months ago but they were run by an idiot and uh getting Jordan Poole on your team to be the man and like, hey, Jordan Poole, we're giving you the keys to the car. These Wizards are going to go as far as Jordan Poole will take them.
And Jordan Poole is going to average 35 points a game, and they're going to win like zero games next year. It's going to be beautifully bad basketball to watch.
I just wish that this had happened a year ahead of time so that we would have at least been, I guess we were favored at like 55% to get Wimbenyama during the draft, but to just tank, get a higher pick, start to rebuild and start to run this team like a competent organization. It's just a year too late.
Yeah, I like it for the Wizards. I actually like it for the Warriors too, because you get the, I mean, Chris Paul is the best backup point guard in the league.
Yeah. Right.
He is. Yeah.
So he and they cleared a lot of money with Jordan Poole. They traded Ryan Rollins, who also clears money so they can get like, you know, one of those.
I never understand all the exceptions in the NBA. It's like a mid-level veteran exception veteran exception whatever they it was it was mostly for contract for the warriors because they only owe chris paul money this year and they'll probably restructure it and yeah i mean he is the best backup point guard in the league yeah probably yeah so yeah maybe not i don't know ricky rubio no actually like the argument would be maybe for tyus jones

who now is going to be a starter yeah so yeah um okay what else we got uh hank your hand up i was just had my hand up but uh shout out to ryan the the breakers player yes shout out do you do you know his name I don't Ryan Rupert yep Ryan Rupert I actually have his jersey yeah we uh we drafted him on the breakers um shout out to every team for being fucking idiots and not drafting no well yeah Marquis Noel maybe second round maybe it's so funny it's not gonna happen jake i i've been reading a lot of draft previews and mock drafts and shit and i haven't seen a single one with marquise he's gonna make people pay summerly love that guy summer league yes um okay other things oh that college baseball game was incredible.

LSU, walk-off, Tommy Tanks, what a nickname.

And now we have LSU versus Florida in the final.

It was one of those things where I was watching the whole game,

so I have to comment on it because it was that good.

It was an awesome, awesome game.

It was like that Houston Mariners game in the playoffs last year.

Yeah.

College baseball is so awesome. I'm so glad that it's going to be LSU-Florida, the championship game.
It just once again proves that, yeah, okay, you're going to have some fun Cinderella moments where we're like, oh, maybe Oral is going to make it. But it's just the SEC's world, and we're living in it.
Also, it's so LSU that this happened. They had such a great moment in sports on the same day that their former football coach had, I forget, like a bunch of wins taken away and had to be vacated for recruiting violations.
And Will Wade, their former basketball coach, got hit with more NCAA punishments. So like two out of three programs right there, big slaps on the wrist.
Meanwhile, L fuck you it's louisiana who cares yeah and and this we actually oh write this down uh jake records that will never be broken for mount rushmore in the future because the jello shot record will because it's a three-game series so it's at least two more games that that will never be touched lsu fans getting to stay in in Omaha for another four or five days. I don't know when it starts.
That will never, ever be touched. Saturday is game one.
Todd Graves, CEO of Raising Cane. Hank and I actually got a chance to talk to him at TEU about the Jell-O shot thing.
And he was like, oh, yeah, I saw that board. And I called him up and I said, I'll take 5,000 of them.
6,000. He got 6,000.
No up and i said i'll take 5 000 of them 6 000 he got 6 000 no he said he said i'll take 5 000 then he heard the record was 5 900 and then he said i'll take 6 000 i love it i love it um should zuckerberg and elon fight that was the other thing i had written down uh yeah um i saw was it zuck that said drop your location for the fight yeah and. And Mark Zuckerberg.
He's got that shit. Just so everyone knows, Elon owns Twitter, and Mark Zuckerberg is the guy who didn't get choked out recently.
Yeah. That's their claims to fame.
They should fight on the Sintinley's Islands, and they should just show up there and may the best man win. Dana White said that he would put the fight on, and he said it be the the highest pay-per-view of all time because they donated all the charity and i actually i probably agree like it would smash all records and it would probably suck it would be the worst fight and everyone will tune in to see it i mean what they should do is they should put their companies up it's like winner winner gets the other dude's social media platform swaps swapsies or no just like takes it over yeah they both own it so like elon runs runs meta facebook whatever and then zuck could take over twitter yeah i like that i like that zuck would just tap him out you think so you think zuck wins elon's a big boy though he's kind of el a Haas.
Beryl-chested. No, but Zuck would just get one of his ligaments because he knows jiu-jitsu, and it wouldn't be that good unless Elon's an insane striker and can keep him off him.
But I don't think that's the truth. Billy, Elon is like a pretty big dude, right? Yeah, but...
He also would get... He'd be big time on the gear.
I think he's on a Zempick, but that doesn't help with fighting. That's true.
That's true, but you don't think he would just do a shitload of steroids before this fight? He absolutely would. He might, but that doesn't help with technique.
I mean, Brock Lesnar versus Frank Mir. Like Like Frank Mir tapped him out the first time.

That's what it's going to be like.

Okay.

Mark Zuckerberg just got choked out.

Yeah, he's not good at jiu-jitsu.

He's just a billionaire and he pays shitty people.

The learning curve on jiu-jitsu is like Zuckerberg's been through.

Like he knows how to swim.

Like he knows how to tap a guy out.

Well, no, he knows how to drown. But he's tapped other guys out.
He's tapped other guys out. I watched all of his film.
He like, unfortunately. Could you beat him up, Billy? I sifted through all of it.
That's what I do. So to find the, you know, to find the good stuff.
And like he's tapped dudes out. Zuckerberg shouldn't take it.
Could you beat up Mark Zuckerberg?

I'm going to be honest.

I mean, jujitsu guys can take your pinky and make you tap.

Yes, Steven Seagal does that.

Yeah, it's that type of thing.

So unless Elon's doing tons of jujitsu in the meantime,

it's not going to be that good of a fight.

Unless Elon gets one lucky hit on him and knocks him out. well either way i want to see it i really want to see it it would it would definitely be one of those pay-per-views i buy and then i'll be very upset that i bought it do you think i mean i probably do you think what do you think the celebrity attendance would be like would it be treated like a pay-per-view big boxing fight? Or would it be like weirdos? It would be nerds.
A lot of weirdos would be there. But celebrities? Their employees would show up in droves just to prove that they backed the boss.
If they did it in Vegas, would there be A-list celebrities there? Joe Logan. Yes.
At least a handful, yes. yeah mark davis he would go definitely that's as a list as it gets um also one last thing before we get to george kittle and uh our mount rushmore famous football plays i think that on monday's show so i've i've listened to some feedback it is baseball season i think everyone needs to come with one hot take about baseball season on monday's show, so I've listened to some feedback.
It is baseball season.

I think everyone needs to come with one hot take about baseball season on Monday's show.

Okay? Great. One hot

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little

recap of everything.

Hot take on whatever's

going on in the baseball season. We do, by the way, also

have our baseball draft coming

up July 3rd, which we've already taped so uh we will be talking baseball then that is technically our baseball preview yeah that is our baseball preview because we learned a lot of names in that draft but i think one one hot take from everyone on monday's show in the baseball world will be good i think the bases need to be bigger nope save it they're not big enough yet save it say they're almost there they're so close save it save it um all right should we get to george kittle yeah let's get to george okay all protein bars generally taste the same but not one bars one made protein bars are actually delicious with reese's and hershey's only one reese's butter lover's protein bar is made with Reese's peanut butter. And only one Hershey's cookies and cream protein bars is made with Hershey's cookie bits while delivering 18 grams of protein and 3 grams of sugar.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest it is our longtime friend george kittle we are in his workout facility in nashville tight end you uh let's start there tight end you this is what year three year three and it is getting big you guys have official merch yeah we do you how many tight ends are coming uh 75 to 85 somewhere in there i got a couple texts last night of guys like hey i forgot to sign up can i still show up i'm like yeah for sure here's a number texas person they'll get they'll they'll take care of it for you so what is like has it been successful in the fact that are we getting tight ends more money now do you think that it's worked that way and also you should have worked in a deal where you get like a part of everyone's contract this is just something we can give for you that's not a bad idea that's free business advice it is free business advice um yeah year three i do think uh i think tight end play has definitely increased i think guys are taking tips uh and learning from it i'm very excited about this year. We have Gronk's coming this year to teach stuff.

He's very excited about it.

And then Jordan Reed is coming to teach releases.

I'm very excited about that too.

He's got a great release.

I know.

He's got great releases.

And I don't know if we can all do the things that he did,

but to see him coach those up, I'm pretty excited about.

Travis is doing two different classes on why he –

like a basic route, a 12-yard in route,

and why he runs it differently versus cover four, cover three, man coverage.

at the end. about travis is doing two different classes on um why he like a basic route you know a 12 yard in route and why he runs it differently versus cover four cover three man coverage and so he's going to teach us why he does the things that he does that'll be pretty interesting listen to i'm talking gap scheme and outside zone pretty nice you know just set set the tone well is there anything that you guys have that you you don't want to share with the other tight ends like special sauce it's like no this belongs to kittle i don't want to share with you guys no ends.
It's like special sauce. It's like, no, this belongs to Kittle.
I don't want to share with you guys.

No.

I might not say everything, but if guys ask me questions,

there's nothing I'm going to hide from people.

I want to give you the tools to be a successful tight end because at the end of the day, if all tight end play is elevated,

we're all going to do better off from it.

Can you create the perfect tight end based on attributes of players

that are currently playing right now?

If you were to build, like, put different body parts,

different skill sets together, what does the Voltron of tight ends look like?

Ooh, how many tight ends?

As many as you want.

Oh.

Yeah.

Active.

Okay, I'll give you body parts, and then you can say.

All right, cool.

Heart.

Who's heart?

Who's heart?

Can we end with that one?

Okay.

Let's end with heart, because that might be the most important yeah brain brain um smarts out there i think i'd go with kelsey just because like you know him and mahomes is like a tag team like you get part of mahomes brain i was gonna ask like kelsey when he gives his presentation is the first part of his presentation like get patrick mahomes to throw you the ball that was he because that would be like the first two years he said he was like you know what don't always listen to what your coaches say and just kind of go play football then he was like he was like you know what you guys don't really have the freedom that i have so and you also yes you don't have patrick so do what you're supposed to do but here are some tips yeah if you do get off script and off schedule gronk the same way being like uh biggest tip for your career is find tom brady and be on his team be on his team and then have decent wide receivers around you so you can get one-on-one coverage throughout the middle yeah that was good all right so brain kelsey i think i'd go just kelsey because like he sees coverages you should like listening to him talk about coverage and stuff it's pretty awesome like he's not just out there messing around like he actually has a plan going into every single play for like different coverage and stuff which is pretty cool not everybody does that all right brain uh let's see feet feet um oh evan ingram okay okay yeah nice and fast explosive guy yeah what about hands hands um i'll give you mark andrews okay okay boy can catch it all that's a good answer thank you he loves lamar. He does.
I know. He talked about that.
He's a huge fan of Lamar's balls. He's been throwing great balls all OTAs.
Yeah. You like Brock's balls? I do love.
Yeah. They're great balls.
He throws great balls. What about lefty? Dude, I don't know what it is.
Lefties are just, it's awkward. I don't know how people catch it.
Yeah. What about Brock lefty? Oh, he should have.
You know, I did ask him first day of OTAs. I was like, hey, were you working on that left arm? He was like, actually, I was the whole offseason.
I got really bored, so I just started throwing the ball left hand. I was like, hey, well, we're set for, you know, any playoff run.
A quick detour. Yeah.
When that happened in that game, in the NFC Championship game, I would imagine your brain, like, at the beginning, you're like, all right, we can figure this out out and then at what point you're like uh yeah we're fucked when when josh got his concussion and like was gone even though like it was 21 to 7 but we had just completely we converted like a third and 14 we're on like the 40 yard line i was like all right let's get like 20 more yards kick a field goal it's 21 to 10 and then like we have the best defense in the nfl and we'll see what. And then once he got hurt and then I saw Brock jog back and I was like, he can't throw the worst feeling to just be like, well, this kind of sucks.
Well, it's like, I'm sitting there and there's 11 guys in the box. Like they're pressed man on the wide receivers.
And then they just have nine other guys, six yards off the line of scrimmage. I'm like, well, it doesn't really matter how good your run game is.
doesn't matter how good trent williams is or like how good i am like there's just nothing you can really do it it is what it is you start getting the arm warmed up did you just throw a couple spirals and you're like hey no baby i was like christian has this you know we had a wide receiver uh juan uh juan jennings you know he was uh in high school he was like the fourth quarterback on Rivals rankings. Oh, wow.
In his class.

Why wasn't he playing?

You know what?

The NFL, I'll say this.

It's not like college or high school.

You can just put your best athlete back there and say, hey, just go be a great kid.

It's like the NFL, they've game plan for it.

It's pretty good athletes.

You have to know the plays.

Yeah.

There's also a few variables that go into it.

That's a very fan brain of us because we forget sometimes that like everyone on an nfl field pretty good was like the best ever in like for their high school and could play every position so we're like why wouldn't he yeah why wouldn't he could be the he could be incredible i would i would have put trent williams in a quarterback and just been like run forward just every play just quarterback power every yeah yeah that would have been awesome all right what about. Yes.
That's me. Grit, toughness.
I don't know if we ever talked to you about that play against the Saints. Oh, no.
What's up? That play ruled. Thank you.
It was pretty fun. So for people who don't remember, it was the end of the game.
Was it fourth down? Fourth and two. Yeah, fourth and two.
And George caught a pass and then basically just bullied the entire saints secondary,

like throwing them off of them.

It looked like a, like a Jerry Bruckheimer film where you're just explosions everywhere.

Um, when you, when you finished that play, could you see in their eyes?

Like I, like you, you're just the alpha on the field in that moment.

I totally blacked out.

I was like my, I was so, I hate when people grab my face mask and I was just like, that happened. I threw him off.
I landed dude landed on my leg and I just got up. I was like, my, I was so, I hate when people grab my face mask.
And I was just like, that happened. I threw him off.
I landed, dude landed on my leg. And I just got up and I was like, King Kong, my chest.
And after that too, cause it was like, I think we had like 76 snaps as an offense. And I took 76 snaps and I literally, I knew we were in filigrants.
I just like put my hand up and I was like, I'm done. Like game.
I've done my job. I've done my job.
Get me off the field. Like get me to next get me to next week i'm tired like we're done with this and then like i didn't realize how cool it was really till i watched the replay i was like yeah it was pretty sick yeah it was really sick it was pretty cool i like it when you laugh during plays when you're like just punching guys in the chest and you're just laughing at them having fun all right what about uh strength um strength.
Ooh, that's one let's see strongest tight end right now um darren waller would be pretty cool but like i kind of want to save him for speed because okay so he's speed he's gonna probably be speed strength though is strength and explosiveness be the same yeah yeah yeah let's go darren waller then okay okay okay so he has speed and strength speed and strength and then maybe you could do an extra strength who can lift the most oh i think pound for pound i might be up there yeah for strongest what are you squatting these days i front squat i don't know like 450 it's not that much i know i could be better what about guys what you benching? I hit a two 75 banded bench today. It was nice.
Good warm up. Yeah.
It was nice. Just a quick warm up.
What about I saw Trent Williams, his warmup on an incline bench press was three 15 one time. Are you ever scared? Are you scared of Trent Williams? Like he seems like the number one guy in the NFL that you don't want to fuck with.
Yes, but because he's on my team, he's super nice. He makes my job so much easier.
In my opinion, he's the best football player in the NFL. It's him, Aaron Donald, and Nick Bosa is pretty close.
Mahomes is up there. But I think Trent Williams is by far on a playing field by himself.
I like that take. Yeah, are you as excited as we are when they put him in motion and he's like, okay, Trent Williams is going to be the lead blocker on this play and he's got a seven-yard head start.
Well, it's fun too because I'm the tight end he's running at. And so if you look back in our playoff game versus the Packers, he smoked the defensive end into me and then they both landed on top of me.
And I was just happy. I was like, wow, that had to have looked really cool like what a fun play trint williams in motion yeah like and then i think uh you know someday we'll get a pass off of it to hit him in the flat like how like who's that was that penny sewell with the yes yes to win the game yes like how cool like hopefully we can do that with trance at some point what about uh what about liver who's got the best liver who's the hardest part who travis yeah yeah travis or mark yeah they're both pretty talented what about uh blocking that's you yeah i'll yeah i'll take blocking or if you're like a guy that just retired like luke stalker tennessee vet he was fan he was a fantastic blocker as well or nick boyle okay thick boy yeah uh all right we want to do heart yeah heart i think i think all tight ends have great heart man i think it's just like it's a it's a commune does every tight end have great heart i think a majority of us do i'm gonna just take a contrarian stand i think i brought this up to you last year is the tight end position becoming too flashy you guys have your own camp you have your own your own holiday we do have a holiday kind of a type thing, huh? Well, has the tight end position ever been looked at? I feel like it's always been like under the bridge.
Like, ah, he's just a guy. I mean, like, this is my take on it is Travis Kelsey is either first or second behind Devontae Adams with most receiving yards in the last six years.
And he pays half of what the best wide receivers are paid. And so that kind of seems like it's just water under the bridge.
Like,, oh, he's just supposed to do that. He plays tight end.
And you don't really get a lot of attention and stuff. And I don't think a lot of NFL fans, unless you're looking at your NFL team, would know very many tight ends in the NFL besides the top three or four maybe.
That's probably true. Yeah.
I also think tight ends, they are the most – they're the pinnacle of football players in that they do everything. Yeah, a i get a run block i get a pass block pass pro on defensive ends i get to run routes on linebackers nickel safeties um trey burton threw a touchdown pass in the super bowl i get reverses i get to run the ball like you get to really do everything and no other no other position can do that so we talk about a lot of tight ends that take a lot of pride in their run blocking what about the the pass protection? Who's the best pass protecting tight end? Me.
You? Yeah. If it comes to blocking, I'm like, I'll toot my own horn.
I mean, like, that's the stuff I like. I practice that stuff my entire offseason.
I take all the reps in season. Like, I'm very prideful when it comes to that stuff.
And, like, I'm very, when it's, like, second down and they're like, hey, it's past 15 week. You're one-on-one versus a, you know, Cam Jordan.
You-on-one versus tj watt go for it i'm like i'm not like yeah like hey he gets paid millions of dollars to rush the passer yeah but i look at that as an opportunity for me to be like you're not gonna be able to get past me and i'm very excited about that so i actually think you could play every position on the field i think you could be a weight on but i think you could be a good defensive end if you wanted to dude i would love to play outside linebacker get up to like 265 and just set the edge. It'd be so much fun.
Yeah. It'd be so much fun.
I mean, that's how much he loves football. You just want to play every position.
Dude, force a couple fumbles. Yeah.
See, I've always said, like, if you give me like five third down pass rushes against the right tackle, I don't want to go against Trent Williams. I don't think I'd win that.
But I like i'd win at least one yeah all right so i want to tell a quick story i think we've told this on part of my take before but you are you hold a very special place in our heart because you're a true like pardon my take guest like great story where we were at 49ers camp your rookie year we interviewed joe staley and after the interview he's like hey we got this rookie who's like a big fan can you guys take a picture with him and we're like fuck we'll yeah of course we love the fans like we'll take a picture turns out to be george kittle we then start like watch we're like wait is that the guy who is a huge fan because like we're thinking oh this guy you know he's he's at the end of the roster like nice job you made the nfl yeah good ends up being the best tight end in the league uh and you've been a fan ever since you've been the same guy ever since uh in terms of your career so what year are you 87 7 7 go to your 7 um how are you feeling like are you do you feel as good as you did you starting to feel the miles? Are you like, let's get a status check on your mentals and where you are with your NFL career? I was actually super pumped. I finished this season at the health as a healthiest I've ever been in my career.
Like I didn't have to do any type of tweaks. Like I didn't have to rehab anything.
The healthiest I've ever been. So like I was able to start training right when I wanted to start training to have to hold anything back.
I was running routes. So like right now, yes, is there definitely more mileage than there was for sure.
And like, you can feel that. And there's things I do to, you know, help with that.
You know, I'm big into stem cells. Like I do a lot of rehab and I'm always preparing for stuff like that.
And I'm, um, I'm always preparing for like the 17 game season. And like, this is the best I've ever felt.
So like ever felt so like i'm just looking to continue to uh you know level up my game and try to be better out there okay i like that one little note though um you and this might be just because we're looking for because we consider you a friend and we're like you know actively rooting for you on sundays for sure um you do it feels like lead the league in a little like tweak injuries that look like you're going to be out forever. Dude.
Uh, so if you could maybe like start doing a quick thumbs up just so, cause I don't know how many times has it happened in the, in the gambling cave. We're like, Oh fuck.
That's an MCO. Oh fuck.
Tittles out. God damn it.
This sucks. This sucks.
You probably go find my tweets where I'm like, please be okay. Please be okay.
I've seen a couple of those. You post one.
They're like, George, I hope hope you're okay it's just a screenshot of my knee bent yeah right yeah so like that was that was actually insane yeah that was seattle 2021 yeah we need like some kind of sign you can give us where it's like we don't have to worry i only missed one plan i came very back i know that's the thing like we we see these like he's done it's over and then you're right back in there i know so maybe just a thumbs up okay If that ever happens, I'll just be sure to give me one of these. Yeah.
But you're a quick one. I feel like you do that every time, regardless.
I'm always good. If it was an ACL, you'd be like, oh, I got there.
I'm good. We say that you get to the side.
You have like the halo tattoo. Yeah.
We say that you get to the sidelines and you just hit yourself with a stem kit. And you're like, okay, I'm back.
Yeah. I'm back.
Yeah. Yeah.
Maybe do a thumb sideways. Okay.
So that way we know, but the other team is like, oh, George isn't feeling good, thumb sideways. Because no one will know.
He's good to go. I can do that.
I throw that up one time. Yeah, just a thumb sideways.
I'm actually shocked that you turned out to be as good an NFL player as you are because you're a big fan of part of my take. I always think that players that spend too much time listening to our shithead thoughts about football eventually one of our dumb ideas is going to creep into their brain and then that just derails their entire career no like my favorite thing is on mondays as yeah mondays when you do the rundown right yeah yeah i drive into work i just listen to the rundown it's one of my favorite parts of the day it's yeah but yeah that does that is a red flag because we're like hey he should be in his playbook not listening you're right i should be studying my plays because there's no game plan on a monday you're 100 right throw half facts against the wall i love that when player when uh fans tell players like wait what is he doing out like at a bar he should be reading his playbook how much time do you actually spend reading a playbook well like weekly we install on wednesdays and thursdays and fridays like those are our three install days wednesday being theiest day, and then Thursday's third downs, Friday's red zone.
So it's like I look at it on Wednesday. We do walkthrough.
We do practice. I review it that night.
Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, you never see me out, like dinner and like that because I study and watch and film. You don't even eat.
Yeah. I stuff my face.
I definitely do that. But like Mondays and Tuesdays, no.
I might watch some, but like there's no game plan yet. Like Shanahan's in the cave creating whatever he's doing.
How many, how many different variations off one single run play has Kyle? Like what's the most? It's infinite. I'm not going to lie.
Is it really? Yeah. Like we can, we have a play.
It's like eight, like you could call it. I write, I write clamp 18 Zorro.
and we can run that like out of 50 plus formations and motions and all this stuff like we really got into like last year's like we do all these motions where it'll look like it's a three by one right three receivers and one guy on the right and then we'll do a motion and the fullback go to the right and then all of a sudden it's a three by one on the opposite side and it changes all the responsibilities for the defensive guys and so like it makes them all things like now the nickel instead of having the d gap now he has the b gap but if we once we get three guys over there now he has the opposite a gap and so like we're just trying to confuse guys out there because as soon as the defensive guy is out of a gap oh there's chris mccaffrey for 70 yards yeah so chris mccaffrey credit to us we said uh that he was the niners were the one place we wanted to see him go. So we were actually ahead of pretty much everyone.
We were smarter than Kyle Schoenig. I'm curious.
When did you say that? We said that – It was like two weeks before he got traded. Yeah.
2019, I wrote – We traded jerseys, and I wrote on his jersey. I was like, I'll see you soon.
Oh, that's awesome. Nice.
I've been speaking into existence for so long. That's like an Etsy dream board.
Oh, dude. Yeah.
He's incredible. Someday we'll be together, you and me, Christian.
I know. I was playing Call call of duty and then all of a sudden uh one of my buddies like hey dude did you see me just you just traded for christian mccaffrey and i was like what yeah looked at my phone adam thought was it yeah i think he wrapped before he tweeted about i was like this is a i called him instantly i was like are you kidding me so when you when he came was an instant we were like this is because it really was like kyle shanahan's run game and then supercharged with a guy like Christian McCaffrey.
Well, he can run all receiver routes. He can literally go out there and run like a 10-yard out route and you can throw in the ball.
He's got the steps down. He's got the angle down.
He can run in your route. We're like, a thing we were doing too, it's like we'd run a whole concept to the right and on the backside, we'd just have like, it's called like a chip choice.
And so Christian would chill,'s called chill so he'd chill for a second see if there's any blitzes and if there's not he just run up and run a choice route on the one guy that's left which is a mike linebacker right just break him down yeah good luck yeah and then they double cover him and then the route concepts always open because they don't have enough guys to cover us it's like that was a big part of our offense late in the year was just like him running choices on the back side and us doing fun stuff on on the front. Okay.
It's fun to watch. Yeah, it is pretty cool.
Yeah, it's very fun. He also just adds to the list of dudes that the Niners have.
You guys have the most dudes. Besides, let's take out Trent because he is the number one dude in the NFL.
Yeah. Who's the biggest dude? Bosa.
Easy? Yeah. Bosa's incredible.
Like I said, it's like Trent and Bosa. And then i think like fred's like he's a fantastic football player like he's like the heartbeat of our defense like the reason that we're so good like we fly around like we do it's mostly because of fred um then i put myself up there i know i think one guy that you guys are going to love to watch is i uke this brandon i uke yeah holy cow like he was cooking our defense all of otas yeah it was so fun to watch you know he's very underrated because everyone talks about debo yeah it's like we also we have like six mouths to feed on our offense and so like if he was in an offense where he was the number one choice and got 12 targets a game he'd probably have 1400 yards and 15 touchdowns yeah he's fantastic we were talking to coach mcdaniel a couple weeks ago He's an awesome guy.
Not a vapor. He was not vapor.
No, I saw that. At some point in the past, he had vape, but he quit.
Yeah, he didn't know the technology that we were talking about. He said it was like a different life, right? It was like his past life.
Yeah, a long time ago. Totally.
Never do it again. But he was sharing about how he would get the buy-in and how Kyle gets the buy-in on offense for everybody.
We always say like on the Ninersers everybody is kind of deputized as an offensive lineman or a tight end if you're a receiver you basically have to be able to do some tight end stuff yes and he uh he gets everybody he does the clips of the best run plays and he makes the entire team watch him so that everybody feels that peer pressure to want to be the next dude that goes out there and blocks is that has that been like a key factor in making everybody want to do all that dirty work that sometimes, you know, a receiver would probably rather catch a touchdown than lay somebody out. And so like, it's, it's crazy because like you expect everybody to block, but like if you watch like run games and stuff like that, you'll see nothing against them.
Like some guys just don't run block. Like that's just not in their repertoire.
But like when you see like an X receiver go out and dig out a safety right before he makes a tackle and it adds 15 yards or a touchdown to the run like you're like hey i want to do that too and i didn't really see that until in 2019 we traded for emmanuel sanders and he came in and he's not a big dude by any means and he was digging out safeties left and right and then he was also scoring touchdowns and stuff and like if you do the run blocking stuff and you run good routes cow rewards you and that And that's like kind of the cool thing too. It's like, so yes, what you're saying is like, he shows in front of the whole team because it's like, you set the standard and then you're not going to get on the field unless you do this.
And if like, if you're kind of a wimp in the run game or you don't give a lot of effort, Hey, well, we can't trust you. And if we can't trust you just to, Hey, your one rule on this is a dig out to safety.
And if you can't do that, then why would I trust you to run on like a double move, go ball and score a touchdown. Yeah.
So it's like, it's kind of like earning your stripes is being good in the run game. I saw a interview you did where you said that sometimes Kyle will run a run play that is like designed to fail just to set up play action later.
Yes. So, you know, the ones that are like, Oh, I'm sitting there.
I'm sitting there like this, this play. Like I'm psych Like, I'm psyched.
It's like it leaves me like one-on-one backside inside zone versus a defensive end who's crashing the C-gap. I'm like, this isn't going to work.
Or it's like I have to pull an insert. And it's just like to get the linebacker to step up, linebacker to step up.
And then we'll run it. We're in like a slant right behind it to Debo.
And like Debo catching the ball at full speed running, good luck. Yeah, good luck.
And so it's like we run these run plays just to bring everybody up. and then you give Debo catching the ball at full speed running good luck yeah good luck and so it's like we just we run these run plays just to bring everybody up and then you give Debo space versus two guys like I'm gonna take Debo yeah yeah that's just so funny the idea of like wasting yeah knowing that but but the reward is there yeah and it's like and sometimes like those plays do pop sometimes like they're like hey like it's not like we're not going into it with the intention trying to fail yeah trying to fail but it's hey, if this goes for two yards, it's okay because the first play of the third quarter, we're going to run the pass play off of it and they're going to all step up because they think they've seen it three times.
Uh-oh, 75-yarder. Yeah.
It's pretty cool. That is actually like next level football coaching.
It's pretty cool. I don't think I'm releasing any secrets because you can just watch the tape and you can see it.
Well, and also you don't know when it's going to happen. No.
You don't know which play is the one that is the one that's... There's games that we don't do that, but I remember we were playing the Cardinals.
We were in some gap scheme play where you have two pullers and it went for one yard. It went for negative one yard.
It went for negative two yards. We were in the pass.
It was a touchdown. I was like, ah, that's why we do it.
You can be like, oh yeah, that was one of the wasted plays. A play doesn't work out.
It's like, oh yeah, I meant to do that. Just yeah just kidding just kidding guys no i mean people cameras all around you saw that i just got you got goofed but i mean people can watch the the you know all 22 all they want but kyle's still calling the plays and when he calls it you'll never know that's like that's what's cool too because we always come out like the night before the game we have like a we have like uh like every team does this like your openers like these are the plays that we run run want to run in the first quarter like to set the tone and we have 24 and they're just like his 24 favorite plays and we usually stay on script for like the first eight to 10 it's like and that's like it's third down then we'll call it third down play obviously but like you'll get through like eight to ten of those and then after that it's just like okay whatever he's vibing with yeah and like okay well this outside zone works so let's try another variation of this outside zone to see if they haven't seen it yet i always thought and and this might be very dumb but there's no dumb questions there's no dumb questions i never understood like if a team is really good with their opening script just run it in reverse just be like one through 15 and then just 15 through one you're not wrong they won't be able to figure it out you're not and then just do it again and just go back the other way just keeps that would make it way easier i don't have to know 15 plays as opposed to 100 yeah just run 15 plays so well that they can't stop it there's something about that we just want to let your players play at their highest level and not think at all yeah do you guys ever do the thing where you run the same play like 10 times in a row different variations of it it, just to like take the soul out of the other team.
Um, in we've had a couple of games, like we've had two games versus Seattle Seahawks where we ran like power load five straight times to win the game. Yeah.
And we didn't change anything. We just literally ran like two tight ends, Kyle use check in a wing and we just ran power down these guys throats.
And it was one of the most satisfying moments of my career. Yeah, I love it whenever that happens.
But like, yeah, but we do have plays where it's like, it's the exact same play, but like it's a different motion or it's a mildly different formation. So it looks different and it could be a different play, but just kidding, it's the same exact play.
Yeah, we've been gassing you up a lot today. We've been talking a lot of, we're doing a promo for you essentially here.
Are you about humble me i'm gonna humble no i'm gonna ask you to humble yourself i think that's the most important trait that you can have for sure as a football player you've never you never truly arrive you know there's always something you can improve on yeah uh when was the last time you got got in the game when was the last time somebody just ate your lunch oh um dude j Watts, last game of his career.

Like, we're playing the Cardinals.

And, like, you know, J.J. can just do whatever he wants to do.

Except evade Darren Revell.

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah.

But, like, he's in a five technique.

So, like, it's in between me and Trent Williams.

He's in that gap.

And we get to the line of scrimmage.

And, like, he's looking at me.

And me and Trent are talking.

And, like, we're calling out our call.

And, like, J.J. looks at me and goes, you're in a gap scheme again, aren't you? And I was like, no, no.
And this guy takes like one step. I go to get him and he just hits me in the back of the head, throws me the ground, swim move.
And luckily my other tight end, like kind of caught him on the hip. He didn't make the tackle, but he did it to me like three times that game.
And he was like, I still got it. I was like, yes, JJ, you can do anything you want, man you want man like relax relax man chill but he said happy birthday to my grandma so it was totally fine oh yes that's so jj super nice that's so jj just beat the shit out of you be like also i'd like to wish your grandmother a happy birthday he's like oh hey i was like oh you know what it's all right come on jj no so it was it was fun though and playing jj in his last game was pretty sick yeah that is sick um okay so sell us on brock purdy because sure what do you want me to sell on well he was a like much debated topic of really is he good or is it the system because you have to say you have to admit kyle shanahan does coach in a way that most quarterbacks would have success sure um was there a moment maybe a play a game where you're like no this isn't just the system Brock Purdy actually is a guy uh honestly his first game uh we're playing Miami Jimmy gets hurt he uh Purdy comes in and Miami decided to zero blitz us like five straight times and it was was his first third down in.
They ran cover zero, two guys completely free. And he hit me like on his third and seven.
Hit me on a perfect play right down the middle. And I was like, all right, you can play a little bit.
And then the next third down, they did it again. And he hit like Debo on a play.
And I was like, all right. And sitting in cover zero and being able to hit that.
And we're telling you, like, hey, this is the cover zero route to hit this guy.

But to be able to step up in a pocket knowing that you're about to get hit

by a blitzing Mike linebacker and there's nothing you can do about it,

that takes some balls.

I remember that.

I remember that sequence.

And I was like, I think he can actually play at this level.

And there's like a back and forth give and take that you have to do because,

yeah, he's playing in a great system, a system that's quarterback friendly,

but also like no disrespect to Iowa. They don't score a lot of touchdowns on Iowa State.
Oh, Iowa State. Sorry.
That's my brother. My mistake.
Yeah. Yeah.
The state of Iowa doesn't score. Yeah.
So you're not entirely wrong. Yeah.
No, but like I think one of the coolest things with Brock is, is that like you can just kind of see his savviness in the pocket too. Like he's got really good pocket awareness.
Like he's, he played 48 games in college. So like he knows how to play the quarterback position.
Yeah. Brock Tober every, every October, he would be awesome.
Yeah. So it's like, and then another thing I love about Brock is like quarterback, like players that have like had success, but have also failed.
Right. Like in college, like he had two pretty, not great years, like his last two years of college.
And so like, it humbles you,. But to be able to come back from failure and then play at a high level, you got grit.
And you know how to play the game. And so that's one of my favorite things about Brock.
Granted, he didn't really fail too much in the NFL. He went 8-0 and just got the Niners super red hot.
But he's got a lot of intangibles. And he's fantastic in the huddle, too.
He's stepping in there. And the quarterback gives the energy for the play.
If your quarterback comes there and he looks nervous, you're kind of like, oh boy. Yeah.
Just give the ball. But you didn't really feel that, Brock.
It was just like he had a handle on things and he had a confidence to him. And there's certain things you can't really coach.
Yeah. Are you going to be a professional wrestler when you retire? I know you want to be.
I'm open to all opportunities. It's a lot of work.
I was actually looking at being a podcaster. i know that's that's the hardest business there is yeah i know it's really hard in your body we've flushed out the weakest of society megan markle see ya she can't do it she can't hack she couldn't do it weekly man that's a grind actually that's what we do this on this podcast where you know how she had somebody that asked the questions and we overdub all her questions later we do that with billy billy asks all the questions and then we come in.
If you're listening to this right now, Billy has already asked all these questions. Yeah.
We already went through this. This is all recorded.
Yeah. Okay.
This is one that is totally not a Billy question. How sweet is it to be in the NFL? So cool.
Yeah. Good question, Billy.
Thanks, Bill. That's a great question.
Yeah, I know. Being in the NFL is super sick.
I don't know why everybody just doesn't do it. Yeah.
Why would you? Good point. is that something you ever think about? It's like you wake up in the morning, you're like, I'm a fucking NFL player.
That rocks. Hey, George, what are you going to do today? I'm going to go down to my gym.
I'm going to work out and then I'm off for the rest of the day and just maybe watch the film. But I'm done because my season doesn't start until July.
Yeah. Could you pull LeBron and write a letter to your younger self thanking your future self for being great at football? How, what would you say to, to little Kittle when he gets, when he gets into the NFL day one of training camp, what would you tell him? Oh, dude, I don't know if I would tell him anything.
I'll just let him do what he was doing. Just worked out pretty well for me.
Yeah. Um, yeah, I just enjoy it, which I think I did.
I mean, I enjoyed every single day. Like we like we started our season oh and nine as a rookie and i still had fun every single day even though we sucked that's you're a psycho you are a football psycho that's so much definition of it uh all right uh hypothetical oh i love these okay and um obviously this isn't gonna happen but let's just say it is your dad is here he's a beast we've already talked to him he might be writing us a letter for the start of grit week he should i think your dad could kill still kick your ass yeah yeah why do you think that because i think that you would get to a point you're like i can't kick my dad's ass and he would be like i sense weakness and then he would just fuck you up that's fair okay so do you think like if if hypothetically you had to fight to the death i think i'm taking your your dad.
To the death? To the death. I think I would do my best to kill him then.
You think you'd kill your dad? He's raised me in that way. He would be proud of you.
He would be proud of me. You did it.
You finally did it. You're just strangling him to death.
You're like, finally, son. Everything I taught you.
He'll be smiling. Yes.
I've done my job. I've done my job.
It's every parent's dream is to one day be killed by their own son. It's just like a movie.
It's like Succession. It's like the opposite of Oedipus Complex.
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Ooh, what about it? What do you think about this year? Are they going to score over under 150 points on offense? Total. What was the total last year? It was in the hundreds, I think.
It was probably like 120. I think it was a Caitlin.
By our defense. Scored more points in the final four.
In the final four than Iowa football did all season. Yeah.
Isn't she great? She's the best. She was so excited to watch.
Over or under 150? 150 offensive points. What's the average of that? Is that 12 a game? That's, yeah.
25 a game, sorry? Yeah, yeah. That's like, yeah, like somewhere around 12 a game.
Was it 12 games, right? Yeah. Times 10.
Oh, yeah. I think we're going to score.
We're going to average like 15 a game. Whoa.
I mean. That's explosive.
That will get you guys to nine wins. But then you get in obviously the pick six.
No, so like out of the 12 games, we're going to have at least six pick sixes. Some punt blocks.
Some punt blocks. And that's why we're going to get over 15.
It is. No, I will say, though, we got a quarterback that can move who's played a little bit.
So that will be exciting. Yep.
Hopefully that's better. Hopefully our O-line, they've all played now.
Because last year, we were at all freshmen, and they were getting brutalized. So hopefully it's a little bit better this year.
But that's also, because Iowa and Wisconsin play a very similar brand of football. It's tough to watch sometimes.
It actually is like good, though, for the soul, because it basically says, like, how much do you love football? Do you love football enough that you can watch an offense never score? Do you love football enough where it can be nine to six and you're satisfied with the win? Do you love football enough that, like, you know, going into the game, you need to pick six to win this game. That's amazing.
It's really the test of true football fandom. You're not wrong.
I think that's what makes Iowa Wisconsin so great. Yeah.
Because like you have to be such a fan. Yeah.
You have to know that. You have to love football.
Yeah. We were recounting the game that I was at that you were in in 2013 when it was 2015.
It was not a joke that like I was watching the game at the at camp randall being like i hope wisconsin can pin iowa like at the five yard line with a punt so that way we can get a punt back and not have to get a first down to kick a field you guys had four turnovers that game too like we had a corner have two picks it was you guys fumbled two balls it was just trading punts to see who can inch closer and closer to field goal range it was so brutal that's football but if you can't love football at that then you don't deserve like chiefs rams a few years ago oh that was not exciting yeah right are you guys is iowa teu the real teu yeah i really i do think that i mean i would agree if you look at like especially active guys like last 10 years i think i was pretty good I mean, Dallas Clark, mean, I would agree. If you look at like, especially active guys, like last 10 years, I think I was pretty good.
I mean, Dallas Clark, me Hawkinson, Laporte is going to be fantastic. I mean, I think Laporte is the best side in the draft class.
I think Lyons got his complete steal. I like the other tight ends too, but I spent two weeks training with Sam Laporte and like the way he moves.
He's got the dog. Oh yeah.
He's got the dog. He's kind of quirky.
He's kind of goofy kind of like goofy too like he's he's gonna fit in well do you know uh right away if a guy's got the dog in him how quickly is the test is it just an eye test well like if when you train with somebody whether it's like in the weight room or like running routes with them and like things that I look for is when you're running do you have a forward lean like can you get out and like you're still accelerating through 10 yards or do you stand straight up and you look like a brick wall just kind of moving slowly not everybody a lot of people look like that so he's got a nice forward lean he's got great hips wait we're being honest so are you gonna be a football coach at some point so what level um it depends you know kids and stuff like that who knows like but do you think maybe like college nfl i think recruiting sounds terrible doesn't it doesn't that sound awful especially now where it's like all right hey here's 25 000 come to iowa what is that but you're a big enough name where i think you just get on the phone yeah you just be like call up a young tight end hey do you want to play a tight end university oh you need to win a ring just thank you no i 100 that is like that helps a lot like Saban just drops his rings on the table like winning a super bowl would be really cool I'd be like hey yeah see this you want to take a look at my super bowl ring yeah come on down yeah come on down you guys should get a ring though like just for being the team that on paper should have won the super bowl for like you guys would have won the last five years you guys would have last year. Because you guys are the best team.
I believe so. I mean, like, hey, like, I go into every game with confidence that we're going to win the game.
So, like, yeah, we lose sometimes. And I'm just like, and then you go back and watch the film, like, yeah.
I mean, that's why we lost. Like, turnovers, didn't play well, couldn't make a clutch catch, something like that.
Or at the end of the day, too, like, you know, NFL players are pretty good and everyone has great players. But, like, if you with confidence then what are you doing in the nfl so yeah i believe i'm going to win every game that i'm going to go in is that realistic for some people no for me it felt like it was this year yeah i know it felt like we went we won 12 straight straight games like that was didn't lose to the bears though that was mean we didn't play not my fault okay no like dude like yeah i didn't i couldn't play against the bears.
I had to cut them some slack, dude. It was fucked up.
We won't know. It was fucked up what you did against the Commanders this year, too.
It was so fun. How was that fun to just continue to slit a team's throat after they're already dead? Like 120 yards and two touchdowns.
There's nothing wrong with that, dude. It's so much fun.
Don't mean. Our first touchdown was a wide receiver run for 75 yards.
Yeah. Lead blockers, George Kilo, Chris McCaffrey.
Actually, I watched that cut up last night because that's good that's gonna be that's gonna be on the tight end you teach today do this yeah you're just like do this 75 yard touchdown just do this really well wait one last last question you have the record for most yards and a half i do for a tight end yep 210 this is like 2018 or something yes it was What was that halftime conversation you're like holy shit that was i sat down because like again that's a lot of running we were we were like two and ten at that point so like no playoffs no nothing and i sat down and like garrett sullick my vet tight end looks he goes dude you have 210 yards i was like what this half no way i do and they're

like yeah you need four yards to break a record and i was like well that's pretty cool and it

didn't happen thanks kyle yeah what's up with that what the hell he apologized to me after the game

i'm like i don't know what that's going to do for me now though thanks right because at halftime i

was doing the math i was he's going to get 400 yards receiving yeah i was like just give me a

10 yard stick man like a 10 yard branch right i'm good but like i don't think i ran another route

but that's kind of cool to be like 210 yards in the first half it's crazy and that's it

Thank you. receiving yeah i was like just give me a 10 yard stick man like a 10 yard branch right i'm good but like i don't think i ran another route the rest but that's kind of cool to be like 210 yards in the first half it's crazy and that's it my job was done um all right well we're gonna take a quick break we're gonna reset we're gonna do a mount rushmore with george he's gonna be on team billy and jake is for this one is your name actually george have you ever called yourself greg yeah i usually use my name tag is greg yeah you know however you guys want to identify me as i'll be george or greg well it got so confusing at one point where i was i forgot his name's greg yeah what the fuck so we confused ourselves no it's actually wild i where was i um i was in i was like doing something in san francisco and i had a fan um call me jeff swear to god he's like hey Jeff Kittle.
I was like, I was like, I was doing something in San Francisco, and I had a fan call me Jeff. Swear to God.
He's like, hey, Jeff Kittle. I was like, it's not even close.
Just pick Greg or George. Yeah, right.
It's not that hard. And you guys are offending my mom.
She's back there right now, and she's like, his name's George. George is a good, strong name.
Jeff Kittle, that's a quarterback name. Yeah.
You should have gone up to Kyle and be like, Jeff's ready to go.

Oh, yeah. I love quarterbacks.

Go off.

All right.

So, yeah, we're going to take a break,

and then we're going to do Mount Rushmore with George,

and he's going to be on Team Billy.

So let's go.

Take a quick break.

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That's www.nobullproject.com backslash barstool for 30% off. Okay, Mount Rushmore time.
It is a special Mount Rushmore. I can't believe we've never done this one.
It is the Mount Rushmore of football plays so iconic football plays can be college or nfl uh we have very special guest george kittle we're still in his uh lair his gym the barn it is george and billy which billy is so excited about uh and before we do the mount rushmore hank is here as well yeah ge. George, anything to say to Cowboy fan Hank? Hey, how many times has Dak Prescott been on the show? Oh, good question.
Once. Once.
And it was the worst. Great interview.
I disagree. I like Dak.
No, he's a good guy. He's a good guy.
Great interview. Have you met any other? Have you ever been to Dak's home? No.
Nope. No.
Invited to Titan University? Have you ever been invited to quarterback university? No. I have a question as well, question as well George I don't really care about your question ask your question I get all I get all this guff for you know being a Cowboys fan momentarily for a playoff run before I even knew they were playing 49ers was that who I was the only one on this podcast I was rooting for George and the NFC championship game fact or fiction okay but i made a bet on the philadelphia eagles in august also your literally no chance that you can tell you made a bet when you you basically had the path you're like they're going to beat the cow the cowboys and beat the bucks and then they're going to play the 49ers and beat the 49ers wait hank are you are you deflecting you're wearing a cowboys jersey by trying to throw them under the bus exactly what are we doing Hank I don't think that I was rooting I'm wearing your cleats I made you wear the cleats no you specifically were like the Cowboys are going to beat the 49ers and my good friend George Kittle former good friend former is what you said you know we'll work on it though like we'll get some reps in we'll work out together you know hopefully we can rebuild the bridge that's been burnt to the ground.
I think Kyle even wore part of my Take sweatshirt. Yeah, he did.
Right in your face, Hank. Hank just likes to root against our friends.
That's his favorite thing. False affection.
Who did you root for when our good, good friend Jared Goff was in the Super Bowl? The Patriots. I rest my case.
Yeah. I rest my case.
Yep. For sure, Hank.
Yeah. No, I'll just hold on to that one for the rest of my life i like it yeah you know i'll win you back that's the chip on my shoulder this year is hank yes right there hank being a hater all right so you guys billy and george a nice guy billy is a nice guy i didn't want to say the time but i did bet the night okay nice i couldn't say it't say it at the time.
Yeah, no, that's good. Max was saying he was going to cut his hair into a mohawk like yours if you won a Super Bowl.
I didn't say that because then you would have to get past the Eagles, and I'm not going to root for that. Oh.
Could you just root for my success? I will root for your success. That's fine.
We'll just go there. Just say, hey, George, I hope you play really well, but the rest of your team doesn't.
I hope you guys run through the Eagles every single time you play them. I will root for your success.
Is that Patriots or Cowboys fan, Hank? No, that's Kittle fan. Oh, okay.
Kittle fan. Yeah, yeah.
That's fine. But what happens? Are the Niners playing your Cowboys this year? Week five.
Oh. That'll be a big test, Hank.
Yeah, it will. It'll be a test.
Just wait. I'll win you back.
Okay. Can't wait.
All right. So Mount Rushmore of football plays, college and NFL.
You guys have the first pick. Oh, that's awesome.
Snake draft. So it's you guys, then us, then Hank and Max, and back around.
Okay. That's the order.
Yeah. Right? I misheard.
Yeah, Billy and George, and then us. House rules.
Wait rules wait no if we're in the studio if he's taking jake's place it would go it would go hang on ourselves i think you just told me i was going first house rules we actually didn't first wait no no you're right you are going first hank's going first sorry you guys are going third my house you guys are going third house no it's his house it's his house all right you guys are going first then hank then us and then back around this is under protest if we lose and get third place george will have to come to the isolation chamber house those are a good point if we lose he has to come for like an hour to the chamber i love chambers what to the isolation chamber is that where aaron rogers went yeah yes that's where aaron went it's kind I like that. Yeah.
Yeah. Sounds chamber.
I love chambers. To the what? To the isolation chamber.
Is that where Aaron Rodgers went?

Yeah.

Yes.

That's where Aaron went?

It's kind of like that.

Yeah.

If we get a ring, you get a ring?

He will be playing in his football season.

We'll make it work.

This is pretty important.

You can zoom in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You can't talk.

I'm sure your wife and family would be happy if for your bye week,

you decide to come to the Pardon My Taste studios

and sit in a chamber with Billy and Jake. Yeah, Claire's not here.
she's fine she's fine thanks honey yeah okay all right so you guys go first then hank and max then us there's so many good football plays there's so many good football plays would you like the honors yeah i'd love to uh our first play is the catch joe montana dwight clark okay set the course of uh four nine hours history we we we we little overrated. It's a little mid.
Is it? No. Chris Berman makes the catch.
Yeah. 49ers.
The Cowboys were the dominant team of the decade. And then the Niners finally won and then went on a complete run.
But when you talk about the catch, you can't tell the story of the catch without who is there to witness the catch. Tom Brady.
Chris Berman elevates every football moment he's a part of. He's fair.
don't get that he's not part of the catch it doesn't matter the covering of the catch if we're doing uh best moments covered by journalists the catch would be number one no no that is now you're just trying to talk down ours because it's your podcast perfectly in the role of jake marsh yeah i know exactly what you're doing. You podcaster guys.
No, it's a good pick. It's a good pick.
It's an iconic play. It's a good pick.
I will go with probably the most important play in NFL history. There was a hard narrative forming against the Patriots.
They'd lost their past two Super Bowls. Everyone was saying that Tom Brady couldn't get the big one.
He literally called it. Malcolm Butler, interception against the Seahawks.
Okay. Most, I mean, it was the greatest Super Bowl win of all time, the most unexpected Super Bowl win of all time.
Was it? Okay. How many point favorites were you guys? Hold on.
Was it really? No, that one was like a – People forget that. Yeah, but still, Hank said it's the most unexpected Super Bowl.
Well, no, that's a good pick. You know who was the betting favorite of every single pick.
That's a good pick. That's a good pick.
Thank you. Is it our pick? Yeah.
Okay, so we will do the most improbable Super Bowl win of all time

and the most iconic catch of all time, David Tyree's helmet catch.

Whoa, is it called the catch?

No, it's called the helmet catch.

Yeah.

I feel like the catch is probably a little more iconic than the helmet catch.

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I mean, there's also a lot that went into the catch beside the actual catch. It was Eli Manning somehow escaping being sacked, chucking it downfield.
And with everything that's in line. Patriots undefeated season.
17 point favorites. That's the most improbable Super Bowl win of all time.
That was a good play. Decent catch.
It was a tight end though, so I love it. Great call.
Okay, so what do we want to do for number two here? Because that's a great – we can go six, number six that we have on the list. We could go number nine or number ten.
I think those are the time zones. I like six or ten.
You make the call. Pick ten.
Six or ten. Ten feels like we might be able to – We can get it later.
Yeah, six is iconic. Vince Young, young fourth down touchdown in the national championship game that was sick maybe maybe the most incredible ending to like everybody was saying usc they were kind of like the patriots in that game is this the best college football team of all time it's once young just stepped up and he just put his nuts on the table and it's probably that was cool it's probably decided is probably the best college football game of all time or at least up there and it's the seminal play 25 seconds left keith jackson on the call vince young's got the corner he's got it unbelievable play yep i don't think casuals like it you literally just got upset because you knew i don't think you wanted that pick i like he doesn't like the graph i don't remember i don't remember what that looks like I think it was six when that happened.
Game on the line. That was a great game.
National championship.

So what's your target audience? Big cat. Our target audience is us football guys.
I want to make I want to just like age wise. What's your age? Okay, that's funny.
Guys who pick the catch. Yeah.
Well, everybody knows what that is. It's a history lesson.
It's a history lesson. Everybody knows it's Young's Roman.
It's one of the most iconic plays in college. What's your guys' next pick when Rutgers did the first forward pass? That was pretty cool.
Okay. That was cool, isn't it? I mean, you can't argue about history when you pick the catch.
I mean, that's for old me. So I don't know about you guys.
You guys sound like you're pandering a little bit to the audience. When me and Big Cat come up with these lists, we just say spirit moves us to make this off the dome so you speak for the holy spirit that's off the dome yes talky that was that was a good it was a really good game i think the game kind of makes the the play seem but it was really just it was makes the game the game was so good it makes the most important play that game seem worse I don't know.
I think you guys are reaching. A fourth and five QB scramble touchdown for the win.

Thanks for the win.

Thanks for the national championship.

Without context, it was a lame play.

Okay.

Exactly.

Without context, it was a lame play.

I have another play for that game that I think is cooler.

Okay.

And I have the most iconic, me and Max have the most iconic college football play of all

time, the kick six.

Okay.

Is that for the national championship?

In Alabama, yes.

I think it's kind of mid.

Yeah.

Oh.

I don't think kicking is very football-like.

It's also just a football.

I don't think kicking is very football-like, so why did it happen? It was the longest kick return. Kicking is, but kick returns.
That had nothing to do with kicking. Just because kicking is involved.
Saban only put out linemen. What he did wasn't that cool.
I could have done that. You could make the argument that it was just a really bad play because Alabama just didn't do their job it was it was really good play the kick wasn't good at all yeah i think i think if the nfl is running uh i mean the ncaa is running a highlight package like that's probably getting top billing no the kick six is definitely before just a scramble it's a five-yard play kick six uh it wasn't a five-yard play He was fourth and five, but then he ran all the way at the end zone.
But it was like a 15-yard touchdown. Okay.
15 or 100, which is higher. And everybody knew that Vincent was going to run the ball, and they still couldn't stop him.
Yeah. We have? Yeah.
We have two. Oh, well.
Yeah, we can go back there. Our first round, we're going to go to the Immaculate Reception.
Okay. Another historian.
This is another guy. Another guy.
We'll bring it recent. Yeah, going with our audience.
Target audience. No, but Billy mean who was in that game name like and bounce up his face fullback just effort and grit and runs up and catches it and runs it for a touch just so we're clear all the plays you guys are picking the people aren't alive anymore no but they're oh there's dog okay i'm just saying are you disrespecting these people well there's also on these plays.
Billy doesn't. Wait, Billy, who's playing in the game? Steelers.
Raiders. Raiders.
Raiders.

Oh, man.

I should have picked so far. And hit the ground.
And? Yeah, but that's like, those plays are gospel. No, it's a good play.
It's a good play. We have one more.
I'm trying to be positive now. Which one? I am hank this is about it that's not positive you're on three we're in three what do you like better shame hank has to put down other people's picks it's crazy whichever one you want to do dog this was kind of the start yeah yeah our third one is the uh tom brady tuck versus the raiders Tuck rule.
Okay. Iconic.
Changed the course of history. Changed.
Changed the course of history. Was it a fumble? Was it not? It was not.
Okay. Confirmed.
But that was a very important play that actually changed the NFL. And it started the Patriots dynasty.
I'm not going to denigrate another man's pick anymore. I've tried to turn over a new leaf on this.
But I would have a lot of material to work with if I wanted to. I'm also not going to denigrate another man's pick anymore i've i've tried to turn over a new leaf on this doesn't seem but i would have a lot of material to work with if i

wanted to i'm also not going to denigrate another team's pick i'll just say that my favorite football

plays are plays that we have to watch in a replay booth for 10 15 minutes in a row this is an

important play you said iconic correct no no it is it's a very important play there's snow yeah

yeah listen the snow was there and everything i wouldn't put down your pick at all but i if i were

i would say that adam vinitieri's two field goals that he made in that game are better plays yeah

Thank you. Snow? Yeah, yeah.
Listen, the snow was there and everything. I wouldn't put down your pick at all, but if I were, I would say that Adam Vinatieri's two field goals that he made in that game are better plays.
Yeah. I mean...
Would they be there without that play, though? Okay, so you're talking, like, important play. You said iconic.
Yeah, I did. What do people talk about more? That talk or Adam Vinatieri's kick? Adam Vinatieri's kick.
I disagree entirely. I bring it up all the time.
Kicking isn't part of the game. They didn't make it 30 for 30 about the kick.
So what? They didn't make it 30 for 30 about the kick. Okay.
I mean, we're not putting down your pick, so I don't know why we're even having this discussion. Yeah, we're not.
You guys are cancer today, though. I will say that.
Thank you. Thank you.
All right, Hank. We're going to go.
We're going to keep the theme here, and we're going to go with the Philly special. Okay.
A common play that was so iconic that they named it after Philly even though it's been a common play forever. It was Clemson.
That's what I'm saying, but it's so iconic that they changed the name to just the Philly Special even though it was a common play. Do you love that play? It's not plays we love.
It's iconic plays. Who was your first pick? The most iconic play.
You love that play? I love it. I actually like that pick.
It is. Everyone's got good picks.
We're doing a good job, guys. This draft is awesome.
What do we want to do with number three here? We've got a lot of different options we can go with. We'll go nine.
Yeah, nine's pretty big. You want to go nine and then do you want to do eight to wrap it up? I love eight.
I think eight might get shit on. I love it too.
It's such a good play. The problem with our picking is that we're the only team that picks true to what we love.
Not pandering. Oh, I hate the Philly special.
Hank hates the Malcolm Butler play. What are we talking about here? We're a team here.
It's not about I. It's about we.
Okay. Let's lock in nine.
Nine to four? Because it's college. No.
What about 16-2? Or we go 14. That was just an unbelievable.
That's just the best play. Okay.
You want to do that? Sure. All right.
I like that. All right.
Yeah, we do. Our next pick, we're going to go with, because we're here in Nashville, we're going to go with the Music City Miracle.
Ooh. Yeah.
Music City Miracle. Incredible play.
I mean, you watch every game. Illegal.
Nope. They reviewed it.
It was not a forward pass. Not a forward pass.
Some guy did the math. It was like impossible for it to to be are you guys shitting on our pick no it's just winking thank you um that's a smart move but it also is it also is one of those plays that like if you're a football fan you just always root for something like that to happen for your team you're like well come on just one chance if you're watching the game you're just like something crazy it's happened before it could happen again music city mirror great name too for it you're like music city, come on, just one chance.
If you're watching the game, you're just like, something crazy happened. It's happened before.
It could happen again. Music City Miracle.
Great name, too, for it. You're like, Music City Miracle.
It's got the alliteration. It's catchy.
It's very catchy. You're always going to remember Jeff Fisher was the architect of it.
Yeah. You can't tell the story of football without Jeff Fisher.
It is true. I think maybe we actually go one.
Okay. Do you want to do it? Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it is like one of the coolest highlights ever. It is cool.
it is cool do you think i think the others are more like nostalgia driven right this is just that

fucking rock yeah cool go for that one okay number one or i guess our fourth pick fourth pick number one sean taylor in the pro bowl leveling We're talking Pro Bowl.

We're talking Pro Bowl.

Oh my God.

We're going to throw a banger after the Pro Bowl he put the all time play put it on the graphic love it, I love this pick the punter tried to run a fake punt it was Brian Mormon who was at one time the fastest player in the NFL if you can believe that one of the greatest hits in NFL history and it was in a pro bowl which you're not supposed to hit you just fucking jacked him up you crushed him you know we say it that would have hurt really bad it would have hurt so bad it did hurt we're just doing a little of everything best football player of all time we got an iconic NFL got an iconic NFL play, iconic college football play, end of the game, Music City Miracle, and then the coolest hit ever. We have all the plays.
Listen, you guys did a – you go Google best plays and you look it up. I wouldn't do that.
You're like Franco Harris and the catch. That's fine.
These are off the dome. These are off the dome, man.
These are off the dome. The catch is like the first thing I ever, like 49ers drafted, the catch.
Yeah. So I know about that.
You guys got a top 20 college football play. We got the number one.
And we're about to take the number two most iconic football play of all time. Statue of Liberty, Boise State, Oklahoma.
That was on my list. The definition of what makes college football great.
A bowl gamejor means nothing uh it meant everything what are you talking about what i mean back then the the any of the ball fiesta ball okay hank didn't know that i was like who they're playing it boys you say to get to oklahoma okay all right i mean one truly the most i felt legendary rival obviously not that cool i lost money on that game i I was like, how could Oklahoma ever lose? The proposal after. It was beautiful.
It was what makes college football great. Well, some people would say that the play before that play was more impactful when they ran the downfield lateral.
Impactful plays are iconic. No, he doesn't remember what happened before that.
He just remembered, oh, that guy from the cover of the video game. Yeah, we're talking about highlight plays, iconic plays.
Okay. I don't see that one in the highlight.
I see them in Satchel Liberty. You guys were talking about Texas versus USC.
There's another play from that. He just remembered, oh, that guy from the cover.
Yeah, we're talking about highlight plays, iconic plays. Okay.
I don't see that one in the highlight. I see them in Satchelor Liberty.
You guys were talking about Texas versus USC. There's another play from that that I remember better.
Yep. And that's when Reggie Bush broke off a long run and then lateraled it backwards.
Okay. Turnover, crushed all their momentum and then allowed Vince Young to have his cool moment at the end of the game.
Okay, yeah. So you guys are picking two fumbles on your draft board.
They're iconic plays. Okay.
So you're taking the lesser of the more impactful plays from that same game. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. USC running down.
They have all the momentum in the world. And Reggie Bush just decided.
Would you say that that would be the most iconic Reggie Bush play? I was going to say Reggie Bush, Fresno State. Or the Bush push?

Also on there?

Oh, that's another good play.

The Bush push was a pretty big –

I'm saying that was one of my favorite points right now.

No, I know what it is.

Again, not denigrating your pick.

Yeah.

It wasn't even the best lateral from that game

because Vince Young had a lateral in the first half, I believe.

But we're not denigrating.

And we're not denigrating.

What happened on that play, though?

Did it change the momentum of the entire game?

I think they might have scored.

I know.

Ours was a turnover. Yeah.
Defense wins championships. How many points is a turnover worth defense wins championships okay okay so which ones did we miss we had um uh let's see harrison 99 yard touch on yeah oh that's big yeah jugg flutie hill mary oh that's a good one stanford band yeah i don't want to go old again though I wanted to put this one on the list because it might be my favorite football play of all time.
Dan Connolly, 71-yard kickoff return on the Patriots. Offensive line.
Wow. Marty told me to do that.
That's a great play. Go back.
Watch the highlight right now if you've never seen it before. That's a great play.
Big boy offensive lineman. Recovers a squib kick.
Takes it 71 yards. He covers it up with and then he breaks outside 50 yards well no so he goes two hands on the ball because he thinks he's about to get tackled but he's just blazing speed breaks through cuts the outside puts the ball in his outside arm like a running back stiff arms people that i will never say another bad word about john coon the football player but i'm so mad that he chased that guy down and tackled him at the end of that play because it would have been the best play in the history of sports if he had scored a touchdown.
Julian Edelman against the Falcons deserves some love. Crabtree versus Texas was on our list.
That was cool as well. All-time iconic game.
Richard Sherman versus Crabtree. Yep.
Michael Vick versus the Vikings.

Overtime, his run.

I think you brought that one up.

Deshaun Jackson, Miracle at the Meadowlands.

Yeah, that was...

I said that one.

Hank vetoed it.

That was a great one, too.

That would have been a great pick, Max.

If it wasn't a regular season game...

Well, it was to get the Eagles to the playoffs, wasn't it?

No, we were just down like 20.

I think it was 24 points in the fourth quarter. Okay.
It was at the end of the season, though. Michael Vick throwing a bomb to Deshaun Jackson randomly.
The first game of the first play? Yeah, we remember that game. That was cool.
That was just Randy Moss, triple coverage. Yeah.
Jerome Simpson. I forget that Tom Brady and Randy Moss played together.
How cool. It's great.
Jerome Simpson front flip into the end zone where he stuck the landing. Doug Flutie helicopter was...
John Elway? John Elway. The Dez no catch.
Dez no catch. Just because it was weird.
Oh, Odell Beckham. Odell Beckham.
Oh, yeah. Could you do that? Yeah, sure.
It's the gloves, right? Just throw. Yeah.
Jadavion Clowney. Michigan.
Most elaborated play of all time. Wow.
You know, so I went on bus with the boys. We asked Taylor about it because he was a left tackle of one.
And he did not do what he was supposed to do, even though he thinks he did. But if you look at gap scheme, he completely left the tight end on an island alone versus that gap guy Taylor was supposed to guy taylor's supposed to help out on left him on an island super tough if you just had his helmet strapped on no one even knows the only reason i would say it's not over is and you can't there's context to the play the fact that they didn't get the first down and then like the next carolina didn't get the first down by like an inch they were pissed off that was next play for Michigan.
So it was a bad call. It was Michigan.
They gave them a first down and they were like two inches away. That's right.
And they were like super short on it. It was the number one ball to lie play of all time.
Fair. I just remember in real time when I was like the number one player on SportsCenter all year.
And I was just like, this is not. He just tackled him.
Whatever happened to the running back? To what? To the running back. For Michigan michigan i don't know i think he's still there i'll throw this one are you still there yeah this one hurts but uh it is iconic even though it was in a loss but devin hester opening kickoff in the super bowl so i mean that's that one and then i was thinking about i was like trying to do all like the Bears ones.
Mike Brown back-to-back pick sixes to win games.

Was it the game with the Cardinals and the Bears

when they had like 21 points off of turnovers?

And one of them was Erlacher just taking the ball out of a guy's hands

and running the other direction.

Yeah, the Bears are who we thought they were that game.

They are who we thought they were.

Yeah.

That press conference alone could be an iconic play.

Yeah.

David Montgomery.

We should have thought about that.

Good call. That's what you guys should do.
Amount. That's one of the press conference is.
Oh, yeah. That's good.
I think we might have done that. Okay.
Actually, we're running out of it. Quarter-round Patterson.
Patterson's kickoff return with a sky cam was on him. That was sick.
That's just fun to watch. The Saints-Vikings play.
Oh, miracle. Minneapolis miracle.
Oh, that was good, too. Shoot.
Saints-Rams. Saints-Rams pass interference.
Oh, that was crazy too shoot saints rams saints rams pass interference oh that was crazy that was nuts yeah what's what's the best play you've ever had probably saints is what i get fourth and two is what most people think of when they think of me yeah uh patrick mahomes 13 seconds oh the best incompletion that we'll ever see in the super bowl the diving that's now in madden yeah like you imagine playing madden online and someone hits and for the win you're like best play that never happened yeah beast quake that's great great i thought about that last time then i forgot that's super tough that's such a mess did he grab his dick when he was going in the end zone too? Yeah, he went backwards. Greg Jennings, yeah.

I broke my leg.

The whole team on his back.

Darren Sharper.

Travis Kelsey getting power bombed.

Billy hates Travis Kelsey.

I don't hate Travis Kelsey. Oh, I saw this.

Do you think Travis Kelsey runs soft?

Well, he led

the tight ends in Yak last year,

so I don't think it's possible to say that he runs soft.

But just like his mentality when he runs.

No, I don't think he runs soft.

We'll get to ask him later.

There are times and places where you can run out of bounds

or stay in bounds, and sometimes he decides to go out of bounds.

But he's 32, 33, and maybe that's just what's best for him

and the Chiefs is to not pick up two more yards and to play the next play so you agree he's making a lot of business decisions while running look travis literally led the league and yak so i can't okay he's fantastic yeah billy's billy keeps trying to soften it but he keeps making it worse yeah i'll introduce you tonight you can shake travis's hand and tell him that he runs soft when they make me say that in front of him I'm just trying to figure out how to get out of it yeah no i'll bring up i'll be hey travis this is billy he thinks that you run very soft yeah it'll be a great moment he called you the b word yeah um all right well good mount rush for everyone i feel good about it yeah huh i think you i love our picks i love our picks you guys laugh at the sean taylor i think that's gonna play yeah no i Sean Taylor will play. It's a great play.
Someone should make a super cut. That's like a social media clip.
Well, here's the problem. And we do do this to ourselves.
With the fourth pick, we try to do something different. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
We try to get, you know, we don't. We're not going to do the BuzzFeed list like you guys do.
I picked a Reggie Bush lateral. Not to denigrate.
Not to denigrate. That's true.
That's true. I picked a Reggie Bush lateral.
Yeah, you did. You did get a very bad pick on that.
Not to denigrate. Is Hank a Cowboys, Dodgers, and Yankees fan? I did.
Do you like the Lakers? Duke basketball. I don't like the Lakers, though.
Yeah, okay. All right.
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Our movie review... new sienna skort it's a little more flirty and it's perfect for date night make plans to go out in abercrombie shop their newest arrivals in store and online our movie reviews brought to you by max.com we're reviewing movies documentaries from max.com this month and oh boy we did a doozy this week boys we did uh we watched the documentary Jared from Subway catching a monster.
Oh my God, was that horrific? I mean, it was fascinating because I don't know, I'll start here. I don't know about you, PFT, but my like knowledge of this case was like, oh yeah, he got caught with some stuff on his computer and that was it.
Like I had no idea how deep it went. I had no idea how long it had gone on.
It obviously centers around this one journalist who Jared had, like, they were at a middle school doing a speech and right before it started, he, like, turned to her and whispered and was like, aren't middle school girls so hot? And then, like, she was like, what the fuck did he say? And basically spent the next six, seven years being an undercover agent for the FBI trying to get him. The whole thing was crazy.
And I also want to say, I don't know if you guys had the same thought, but when I was watching it, thank God part of my take hadn't started yet because we definitely would have had Jared from Subway on the show. We would have.
He was doing so much media. I forgot how insane the media hype was for Jared from Subway.
He was on everything. Everything.
In no doubt in my mind, we would have gotten an email being like, Jared from Subway is stopping by the office. Do you guys want him? He'd be like, yeah, sure.
We've been like, yes, do it we'll have we'll have max walk back and forth to subway with you every day for a week wearing his giant pants the super bowl pants and then he'll hold them up at the end of the week and show how much weight he lost and uh yeah he's he's a bad guy jared really bad guy i was shocked like how many how many times do you think he had told somebody that because he had just met the woman earlier that day, they sit down at a middle school assembly and then he leans over and he tells her that he thinks that middle school girls are hot. And she was like, what, how many other people did he tell that that didn't do anything about it? So on one hand, the, the woman, that's the, uh, the focal point of this documentary, she seems like she was kind of bored.
And this gave her a project to work on and she wanted to be a spy. And Jared's a fucking idiot for not realizing that's what she was doing over the course of six years.
she was basically asking him to just incriminate himself over and over and over again while never ever like meeting up with him or following through on any of the stuff that she said she wanted to do with him jared's a moron for going along with that at some point guys like that they might want to get caught they might like you know subconsciously know that they're doing something bad and want to get caught so he kept going along with it um jared awful guyingly, I don't think Jared was the worst person in this documentary though. It was the other guy.
Yeah. It was his business manager, but even more so than his business manager, his business manager's wife, I think is the worst person in this documentary.
So his business manager was like helping him procure kids, sending him like child porn taking him on trips to thailand and doing god knows what over there his business manager's wife was selling videos of her own kids naked in her house what the fuck is going on with that she was also she was the worst really she was also if you caught this small sound bite she was fucking horses on camera and they found it yeah it was like that's how it all that's how it all like that's that was the the the moment that jared's like life started to go down the path of getting caught was the horse fucking it was i had if you had asked me before i watched this i would have had no idea that all this happened like it was one of those documentaries that i'm happy i watched because i i like there was so much stuff that either i had forgotten or just never learned because it was he got arrested and everyone you know was like oh that's fucked up and made jokes and like it was so much deeper than that. It was so much more fucked up.
It was a very well done documentary. And we should say her name is Rochelle Herman.
And she basically, she's a hero. And even though she wasn't the person who took him down, she's a true definition of a hero.
She could have easily just done just done nothing instead she kind of ruined her own life trying to take jared down she basically threatened to release all the tapes that she had of jared if the fbi didn't do anything about it because they kind of stopped their investigation so then she called her local cops she called the cops on the fbi she was like hey i'd like to report a crime the fbi isn't doing their job investigating a crime. And so it put pressure on them and, uh, it made them focus on their investigation, try to get some charges pressed.
And, uh, Jared, I think Jared is going to be out of prison in like four or five years. I think, I think he's scheduled to be released because as fucked up as like the stuff that he said that he did was in the conversations they were only able to prove like the child porn stuff they weren't able to prove that he did anything even though he talked about all the other stuff that he had done they didn't have enough evidence to make that stick so well i think the the wife got what like 20 30 years in prison something like that and uh and his business manager also got like 15 or 20 years jared's gonna be out soon it's fucked up the whole thing was fucked up it's very well done documentary i also want to say shout out to there was two interviews that i loved it was the fbi agent who did his interview in his car like he was in a stakeout love that and he wasn't looking at the camera yeah he wasn't looking at the camera and then there was the indiana state police officer who did his interview in like a perfect indiana steakhouse and it was just like i know exactly where he is he was sitting the red tablecloths like he's like i just he probably got a free lunch out of it it was those two interviews i was just like this these these guys picked this spot.
I also liked the woman's radio co-host down in Florida. His name is Ozzy Osbourne.
And he just looked like he had been sitting out in the sun for 50 years. Yeah.
He did all his interviews from a bar. Yeah.
That's the most Florida guy of all time. Yes.
Anyone else got, I mean, it was like harrowing. Yeah.
Go ahead, i know it was insane some of his specific quotes you mentioned them earlier there was wild like they had to flash the warning like every five minutes during this documentary just to let you know that what you're about to hear is insane i feel like it was made for tv but then it was on hbo that actually threw me off too because they were doing like dramatic commercial cuts. I think it was because it was so bad.
Yeah, that was crazy. And then, yeah, similar to what PFT said, turning in the FBI is going above their head is crazy.
You would love a narc move like that, wouldn't you, Jake? Yeah, of course. But the fact that she knew this was going on and he was still out there i think it was like three years like that's just crazy that this couldn't have been stopped sooner whole thing was nuts it really was but it was a great very well done documentaries i think it was three parts you can you know it's one of those documentaries you can you can do in one night and it was it was definitely worth it i was kind of thinking too because we did the linsanity documentary and it's like overnight fame and overnight success and and jeremy lynn kind of used all that and is and is doing good with it and then on the flip side it's like jared from subway was just the worst human being to ever live yeah yeah do you think he was like this before the fame well i think they said it they said in the beginning where it's like your whole you know your whole life gets based off of if you know your young interactions and if you're just getting bullied all the time and no one wants to sit with you and everyone hates you like you just become you never had a childhood that that's what i didn't like i didn't like that part about it how at the beginning they basically set the entire show up to say uh jared had absolutely zero human contact when he was in middle school with anybody like girls wouldn't sit next to him, almost like they were setting it up for the excuse to be Jared was just like trying to, to relive the childhood that he never had.
It was like pre excusing it. But there are a lot of people that are nerds in middle school that don't end up doing the shit that Jared does does yeah yeah the whole thing was crazy um all right so that was max.com go go sign up today got they have just endless amounts of entertainment uh everything all the shows documentaries like i said kids shows as well um i'm gonna watch one last question big cat who do you think is a worst spokesperson for subway in terms of sales jared or russell wilson well jared did a lot for subway in sales yeah that's what i'm saying i think like the net net damage to the brand probably russell wilson dude i remember i i tried out the subway diet for a while there yeah if it works just get a subway but But then I was getting meatball subs, which are so good.
I think he got the dry turkey, no sauce, no mayonnaise. And now he's getting a different type of footlong in prison.
Not from a horse. How many times do you think that's maybe the most tweeted tweet of all time? It is.
It was actually such a tweeted tweet such a tweeted tweet that I just realized that maybe if you've been on the internet just in the last like four years, you haven't really seen it. I think it went.
What year did he get arrested? Like 2015, I think. That's probably the most commonly tweeted tweet in the year 2015.
Yeah. Yeah.
Easily. All right.
So go check out Max.com. What are we going to do next do next week do we have the list hank we gotta pick we gotta pick a movie we gotta do man on fire again yeah uh let's see oh can we do cobra yeah cobra's awesome sly stallone no remember the heat is melissa mcc McCarthy.
We could do that. Something lighter.
Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy. I'm up for whatever.
There's a really funny scene in that movie. Is Cobra better or worse than Bloodsport? Cobra's...
No, Bloodsport's the best movie of all time, so that's hard. The heat, not to give away any of the plot or anything, but there's just one really good scene where they're interrogating a witness and Sandra Bullock's like throw the phone book at him and Melissa McCarthy throws an actual phone book at him.
Let's lighten it up. I think we've put the listeners through enough this week.
All right. Yeah, The Heat.
All right, we're going to do The Heat with Melissa McCarthy. It's a legitimately funny movie.
I'm sorry. i actually think bill burr might be in it yeah he is going i think he i think he's in it yeah so we'll do we'll do the heat uh next week everyone watch on max.com all right uh let's let's wrap up the show by the way we got some awesome interviews coming from tight end you travis kelsey monday really really good like i thought we were i thought we had already met him a million times because he was that cool and like fun to be around like with the way he dapped us up I was like do we have we met but he's just the man and that was unreal that was that oh sorry keep going I'm Billy confronts him yeah Billy confronts him yeah lucky to be alive yeah so that actually is a good lead-in for my fire fest because travis kelsey was a great interview obviously you know the patriots chiefs rivalry never never rooted against them but it was always like you know we got to beat the chiefs to win the super bowl so i never rooted for him never you know loved him or my homes but obviously the patriots aren't as good now they're the champs.
He was a great interview. And then after hours, me and Billy, it was entertaining client hours.
And he was just funny. He was a funny guy.
He had some callbacks to the interview. And I left the bar being like, I love Travis Kelsey.
Yeah. Dude, the guy moves different.
He just moves different. Okay, so that's your Fyre love fire fest yeah i legitimately was like i like you know he was as as good not to not to overhype it but he was great at great on it and afterwards i was like travis kelsey's the fucking man i was like i kind of feel like i kind of always root like hated travis kelsey but now i just now i'm a huge fan of his it's like never meet your heroes but the opposite never meet your yes you might end up falling in love yeah literally yeah okay I also lost a pair of headphones but we were in three cities in a week and a half so yeah you're fine uh PFT uh I had a pretty clean week I would say my fire fest is also tight end you related uh we went to that that bar after we're done with all the interviews on, I forget the day, Tuesday night.
Tuesday night we got to the bar and it's all tight ends hanging out in this bar. And that's just not a place I need to be standing.
It's not. It really isn't.
Everybody was 6'4". As a 5'8 and 3 quarters man, it's emasculating to say the least.
So I just found a seat as quickly as I could. And I was like, I need to be sitting down that way.
People aren't like, Oh, this guy's short. No, he's sitting down.
I told, I told Billy that, which was a mistake. I said, I said, I should not be standing up here.
This feels very awkward. And theny about 15 minutes later proceeds to tweet out

like man i'm around all these huge guys now i know what it's like for pft to be in any bar so he just stole it from you he used my own joke to insult me no no because i felt that way i was trying to get a beer with hank at after hours and there was a whole line of nfl tight ends it's called Afty's?

Afty's, whatever.

I'm trying to get a beer.

Yeah, we weren went out that late. I was trying to get a beer and like, not to brag.
I'm like, I kind of like to think that I'm really good at getting beers and crowded bars. I was at this bar.
Confirm. Gigantic tight ends.
That's Billy's specialty. That's the thing that he's the most talented in the world at is buying a beer getting beers i crowded beers so i'm trying to get through these gigantic dudes at the bar and like no one was giving anyway i couldn't like body anybody to get a like a beer and it was like you needed to be nick bosa to get a beer at that bar hank can attest hank got stuck the pft that what didn't help as, what didn't help as well is that PFT and I, because we did a ton of interviews on Tuesday.
It was one of our longest days we've had, so we never went back. So PFT also was wearing a backpack in the bar, and that's always...
I was also wearing a backpack, and it sucks. There's no worse feeling than walking into a bar with a backpack and being like, hey guys, what's up? I looked like a seventh grader.
It was bad. It was a bad visual for me, but you have to be self-aware in those scenarios and know when you're not, you're not, you're not meant to be there.
Maybe in a past life, I could have pulled it off if I still partied as hard as I used to, but I don't. And so I was just like, you know what? Not the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Yeah. Yeah.
That was, it was a lot of big dudes. Um, all right.
My fire fest. I did tweet this earlier this week, but my fire fest might.
So I left a tight end university 6am on Wednesday when, when everyone went to do the drills, my son was graduating from being three to four. I don't know why they had a graduation, but they did.
Um, and I cried I think I'm just the cried. I'm the dad that cries now.
Like, I shouldn't be crying it from three to four, but I was crying. You're like Dick Vermeule.
Yeah. It was eye-opening.
I think I'm just going to let it be. I'm just going to be like, I'm going to be any, anything that like is the passing of time with my kids.

I'm just going to cry and I'm not going to care about it.

It's good.

It's healthy.

It feels good to cry.

Yeah,

exactly.

On to something.

Also shout out teachers,

just a shout out because teachers rock.

You had two great teachers and I,

I don't know how teachers deal with a bunch of three-year-olds running

around all day.

It is probably the hardest job in the world so shout out teachers they party hard yeah that's that's what teachers do also yeah i agree with you shout out teachers love teachers um but they they get after it yeah they need to because i like yeah it's a lot and he had two really really good ones so uh yeah cried. And then I also cried also a little bit on Wednesday night, but that was because I ate some mushrooms and John Mayer was fucking going off at Denko.
But that was more like a tears of joy kind of thing. So really emotional day for me on Wednesday.
All the highs and lows. You were like no Sean Moreno listening to the National Anthem or Nick Sirianni.
Yeah. Listen to John Mayer play guitar on mushrooms.
Hell yeah. One time I was, I was in Hong Kong when I did the MDMA with Donnie at the rugby, at the rugby sevens tournament.
And I cried just because Carlin Isles was so fast that he made me cry. It was beautiful.
Shit will happen. Remember, remember the time when I cried in Nashville, when I got, we got so high going to the Superbowl and everyone went out to dinner and I was too high to go out to dinner.

Cause I got down to the lobby and Larry, the bus driver was like, where are we going out

to dinner?

And I was like, I can't deal with this.

So I went back upstairs and I was watching, I was watching a college basketball game.

I was watching like Syracuse versus Duke play in like the fifties.

And then I flipped over to the warriors and they're making every shot. cried a little because i was like this is fucking beautiful so it's okay moral of the story is it's okay to cry if it's about your kids or sports or john mayer being a fucking beast the guitar pft you would have second set he threw out his back in the intermission he did the entire second set from an office chair and was just like shredding just just like nothing had happened it was it was a flu game guitar is sports it really is i and i'll put my hand up i was a john mayer hater as recently as probably like seven years ago eight years ago because i never actually really listened to him i was just like oh this guy can't be that good at guitar because as you're as you're growing up you're learning how to play you learn from all the greats and you you listen to like classic rock that type of shit it just does not compute in your head that a modern popular musician can be that talented to be on the same level as some of the all-time greats john mayer fox he's so good dude he is so goddamn good i mean he made me cry he's that good he made me cry might have been the mushrooms.
He's so good, dude. He is so goddamn good.
I mean, he made me cry. He's that good.
He made me cry. Might have been the mushrooms, but he still made me cry.
Yep. Those were for John Mayer.
Those tears. But yeah, full second set in an office chair.
What a beast. Okay.
Billy. I want to put my cue collar on for this one.
Okay. So I don't hurt my brain talking about this But we need Q collars When you talk I know Put your Q collars on now Billy's about to speak I barked up the wrong tree I got a little I was feeling myself at Tight End University.
I was doing some drills. Check out PMTV next Thursday.
It's going to have all of it in it. It's actually really awesome.
And I challenged Will Compton to one-on-ones. And I got the clamps put on me.
I tried to run a couple fades on him and failed. And, you know, looking back, the best man won.
He just plays next-level defense, and I couldn't get it over. But, Billy, the throws were late.
Shut up, Hank. Nope, nope.
I'm not going to comment. I could have made a play.
I could have made a play. Look, you're never going to get a perfect situation.
I could have made a play, and I didn't make the play. One thing I will say is that if you watch the tape, like Will Compton just throws, like he played my hands perfectly on the one rep, and I couldn't come down with it.
Hank, I recall you saying probably, I don't know, 300 times during football season, if you can touch it, you can catch it. Pray tell, where did that second pass hit Billy on that beautiful goal line fade that I threw?

No, I could make a play on the ball, and I couldn't come down with it.

I'll just repeat what Billy said right after her.

Well, yeah, right after Billy initially.

So the funniest part of the clip is that—

Come on, we're trying to be adults.

We're trying to be rational.

So Billy's like a pussy move.

That's a power move.

That was good.

As the ball's in the air.

That's how you got it.

Because I thought I had it.

I thought you had it.

Right before Billy reaches out to catch it, he goes, pussy. And then Will just hits it out of his hands.
So, Billy, Will is the best. He obviously makes fun of himself a lot.
He did play in the NFL. I know, but I have total.
He's a better athlete than you by leaps and bounds I know but like in my brain I don't fault my brain for giving me the gift of being way too overconfident and thinking that I'm just being delusional it's gotten me a lot of places it makes me fail a lot but you know what i you know i gotta test

myself and my brain's just testing my body all the time this is like when when we have the argument

every year like could alabama beat so and so team and you're like well that team is full of draft

picks and they all play in the nfl so they're all very very very very good even if they're not even

the 53rd man on the roster,

they're still better than a lot of guys.

So could Williams beat Nebraska in football?

Maybe if they called the linebackers on Nebraska for pass interference.

If Scott Frost was coaching, he'd find a way to lose.

In 2022, Williams was one of the only undefeated teams in the NCAA so are they in the NCAA yeah technically okay nice yeah it was also great to see uh to see see Gronk running around out there just that was my other last note from Titan you was he was you know just running around there like a player and it's good to see yeah so Gronk out I don't want to report anything but Rob Gronkowski was in the front row paying extra close attention to the coaching that they were doing at tight end university he was actually like participating in the drills listening very intently I don't it that what you will but he was trying to get

better at playing tight end for what reason that might be i don't know he was also by the way i

have to say greg olson i was like in there greg olson is an amazing coach like just from he's

amazing amazing yeah he's an amazing guy but like just seeing him coach like what he knows up front

he's amazing in the booth but that guy like he's amazing in the booth but he should be coaching I I'm just saying I'm just saying I just triggered I had one other fire fest real quick I Greg Olson we interviewed him he'll come out in the next couple of weeks I mean he's all time you know he's been a stoolie for 12 years he's been on the show a bunch he's a legitimate friend. So I met his son, and we were joking around.
I think his son's maybe around 10 or 11. And I was like, so, Greg, are you getting him into Barstool yet? And Greg's like, ah, he's not there yet.
I was like, what do you mean? He's not guessing that ass? And then everyone was like, what did just say yeah that was probably too much kelsey actually heard that and just walked away so whoops that was my mistake i mean the joke landed craig laughed yeah it's a good joke counts yeah yeah it's a good joke all right jake oh there one other note from University, and I guess we'll probably see this on PMTV. Josh Allen saw Max.
Yeah. And had a reaction to seeing Max.
Don't spoil it. Don't spoil it.
I'm not going to spoil it. PMT Thursday, Thursday.
Yeah, find out what Josh's reaction to seeing Max was. Wow, I'm the only one that doesn't know this.
I'm on the edge of my seat. Oh, it's in on thursday yeah it's good it's good uh jake finish us off yeah so last week i was uh on long island playing golf with my cousin and we had a rainstorm lightning thunder after the fifth hole so we had to leave went back to his house uh had ended up taking his twin daughters to a roller skating drop-off birthday party.
And he walked in, dropped them off. I was sitting in the car.
He texted me five minutes later. It wasn't a drop-off.
I was stuck at a roller skating rink for two hours after thinking I'd be playing golf an hour before. Wait, did he leave you in the car like a dog?

No.

Oh, you came into the party?

Yeah, I walked in.

Did you just listen to blades?

No, no, I didn't.

Wait, so you only played five holes?

Five holes and then ended up at a roller skating rink for two hours. What hole was the fake hole-in-one plan for? I think it was seven.
Okay, so that's extra insult to injury. I know.
Almost. There was cake.
Yeah, I stayed away. You didn't eat the cake? No, I wasn't supposed to be there.

So what did you end up doing?

Did you just sit at a table the entire time?

I just stood up to the side.

Were you standing?

I think Jake roller skated.

Wait, Jake, were you standing or sitting? At least you played an arcade game.

Yeah, you stand off to the side and look at the arcade games.

Did you play any?

No.

I just played on my phone.

For two hours?

What kind of battery you got on that thing?

I mean, you were just on the course a second ago.

Probably didn't have a full charge.

Yeah, I made it work.

That's hilarious, Jake.

Yeah, I think he roller skated, Jake.

I think he roller skated.

Yeah.

I think he roller skated. Oh, nice.ated Oh nice Memes is there Let's go memes Memes also just texted me I took a couple of your zins I will pay you back What are you going to pay me 50 cents You're going to have a new tin on your deck I don't need one You're.
I've thought of doing that so many times. I can't believe you actually took your studies.
You're good by me, memes. You're good, bro.
Memes, have you ever gotten this? No. Numbers.
69. I thought you didn't care about 69 anymore, Billy.
21. No.
Well, now that I got this Q color on, all this blood's in my brain,

and I'm operating on a different level.

I might start rocking this all the time.

You guys are in for world trouble.

Yeah, it's the cock ring for your head.

I'll go with eight.

Yeah.

20.

Hank, what'd you guess?

21.

I'll go 17.

I'm going to go with one.

Memes, you ever gotten it?

No.

I'll make you laugh.

I'll make you laugh. memes you ever gotten it 92 92 oh that's that's 92 there we go fifth time uh all Yama.
Fifth time. All right, yeah, Monday, Travis Kelsey,

and we will be back together as a group on Tuesday and Thursday this week.

So Mount Rushmore's season will continue to be contentious,

and we'll see everyone on Monday.

Love you guys.