Hot Ones Host Sean Evans, Mt Rushmore Of Guys Not To Mess With, Wyndham Clark Wins The Us Open And The Suns Are Making Another Super Team

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On today's part of my take, we have an incredible interview with a good friend of ours, Sean Evans from Hot Ones in studio. Sean is a huge AWL.
We talk about his career. We talk a little deep-seated, like, pardon my take history and, like, his favorite moment, just awesome, awesome interview.
We have Mount Rushmore of guys you wouldn't fuck with. We have the U.S.
Open. We have John Morant's suspension.
We have Bradley Beal getting traded. There's a ton of stuff.
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Oh, we're going to rock down to Electric My Take, presented by Barstool Sports Welcome to Part of My Take Today is Monday, June 19th And Wyndham Clark has won the U.S. Open Wyndham Clark has won the U.S.
Open PFT When we had a Final four of Ricky Fowler, Rory McIlroy, and Scotty Scheffler. Wyndham Clark is your U.S.
Open winner. Big dub for Colorado.
Everything's coming up Colorado these days. Yeah, he is the U.S.
Open champion. There was a great leaderboard.
I love the golf fans that just talk about how good the leaderboard is on Sunday. They root for the leaderboard almost sometimes.
The big loser this weekend was the course. That course sucked.
I disavow that course. I know they're supposed to have another U.S.
Open there in like 13 years or whenever. They should take it off.
They should take it off because there was no big game feeling with this course. It was a soft course.
You had two guys that shot eight under in the first round tied the record at a u.s open for it and then the course just got softer the marine layer everybody was talking about the marine layer like that was some sort of excuse the course is a loser for making excuses there was it was it was not becoming of a u.s open to be played at such a soft course yeah it was so soft that rickyowler, who had the lead up until maybe the worst announcer's jinx of all time on Saturday night when he had like a four-footer to have wire-to-wire start to finish in the first three rounds lead, he misses that. But Ricky Fowler, who I think, what did he finish? He ended up finishing fourth.
He broke the U.S. Open record for birdies so that was like the course was not what a U.S.
Open course should be the crowd sucked we found out halfway through the tournament that they only uh released like 29,000 tickets and then the LA Country Club bought half of those more than half of those they actually were in the works of trying to buy all of them and so it was very corporate. There were holes where it felt like no one was there.
Matt Fitzpatrick said it like when he hit a hole in one, he was like that just didn't feel like I hit a hole in one at the US Open and then we also had a plane NBC plane buzzing around the entire tournament. I like, I know that this is a very old man thing, but I think most people agreed.
They're like, what the fuck was that? Why was there a plane flying slowly overhead for the entire tournament? LA country club. Fuck you guys.
I know you're the richest, most powerful people in the world. Stan Kroky a member.
So that's the first first L Stan Kroki's probably ever taken. But, yeah, the course was disappointing.
The course was a big loser. Wyndham Clark, the big winner.
Yeah, I mean, we saw in the PGA Championship, the bunkers there were literally eating golf balls. If you get a ball embedded in a bunker at the PGA, that ball is gone.
Sorry, you got to find a new one. Rory gets his ball embedded.
What hole was that? That was like the 14th hole. Yeah.
Something like that. The ball was embedded in the side of the bunker.
And then Rory calls a rules official over and they're like, oh, well, good news. You can just reach your hand and pull the ball out and then take a drop a club length away.
Oh yeah. You can actually put that on the green.
So you're good. You can just take it closer to the hole.
Made no to me the course is a bitch also the like maybe plant some more trees la country club how many times do we see guys miss terribly like windham clark did it i think on the 17th and he just hit it in the other fairway and it was like a perfect like he's like oh yeah this is gonna be uh decent angle like he can be like you shouldn be rewarded for missing. I know the fairways are narrow there, but, like, when you hit it in the other fairway, it shouldn't be like, oh, no problem.
You can still make par pretty easily. Bitch course.
Bitch course. The barrenkas, which is basically just like a dried up piece of dirt that's on the side of a fairway.
That doesn't really punish you that much. I didn't see any creeks out there.
I didn't see any lakes didn't see any trees getting in the way i don't like this i disavow i disavow this listen all the credit goes to wyndham clark because they all had to play the exact same course and he ended up obviously playing well on sunday he he nutted up when he had to and he made some big shots um but as far as as far as this tournament goes i'm putting an asterisk on the U the U S open this year. Yeah.
And now, so we have Wyndham Clark was, he deserves it. He was like, as everyone, Scotty never really got it going in the, in, in the final round.
Rory just couldn't hit like that one or two putts to put them through. Like he kept on going pars.
It felt actually reminiscent of the British Open or the Open Championship last year when it was like, if he could just get one of these putts to fall and get a little positive momentum, he can win this tournament. And now, Rory, like how long has it been since Rory won a, I think it's 2014? 2014, yeah.
2014. Is Rory, oh, hey, Hank.
Is Rory a choker? So, Big Cat, I was about to ask you this because it's been so long. I think if you go 10 years without winning a major, the narrative goes back, and now it's Rory will never win a major championship.
He doesn't have the clutch gene. Mm-hmm.
Like, imagine 2014. You said, hey, we'll be in 2023, and Brooks Koepka will have more majors than you, Rory? Who's that? We don't know who that is.
Yeah, I think if he finishes this, if he doesn't win a major, if he doesn't win the Open Championship this year, then I think, start of next season, Rory will never win a major championship. It goes back to that conversation.
And Hank and I were talking about this earlier uh we have now officially activated ourselves into brooks legacy defense mode so when it became clear that ricky fowler wasn't going to win uh we just started rooting against anybody who already had a major championship correct because we don't want anybody to catch up to brooks yes no no you like rory winning there and then now it's the five club he He joins it. Yeah, no, I completely agree.
I was rude. I think we all and I speak for America.
We all were rooting for Ricky Fowler to break through because the story you're rooting for Rory over Ricky. No, I'm saying the world was rooting for Ricky Fowler.
Oh, yes, that's what I'm saying. The world.
Yeah, the world was rooting for Ricky Fowler. like, the story about how last year his game was so bad that he was an alternate to be in the U.S.
Open, didn't actually play in the U.S. Open.
Like, he was, you know, whatever it was, like seven, eight years ago, he was with that group, Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, and all these guys who've won big tournaments, and he never has been able to do it. it sucked because I really do think that putt on Saturday night, like I think he misses that and he just goes and he has to sit in his hotel room or his Airbnb and just be like, what the fuck? Like how did I miss that to go into the lead on Sunday? And I do blame the night.
That was the course's fault. Yeah, it was the course's fault.
It was the night. The fact that they were playing.
It was so fucking dark when they were playing on Saturday. The whole tournament was a joke.
A joke. Jake has his hand raised.
Real quick, Jake. I usually like West Coast golf because it means that we get to watch the ends of these major tournaments in primetime at night.
And that feels awesome if you're on the East Coast getting to watch like the end of uh of the u.s open when you know you look outside and the the moon's already out you know that's that's a cool feeling in this i don't want it to be dark where they're playing though and they did move it they moved it up a little bit on sunday so they weren't going to run into that but yeah saturday felt it felt different it felt different watching them at the end of the day mickey mouse course mickey mouse u.S. Open, USGA do better.
Sorry, Jake, go ahead. Yeah, so you guys mentioned Roy McIlroy winning the 2014.
This is the last time he won a major. That was at Royal Liverpool.
Guess where the 2023 Open Championship is next month? Royal Liverpool. St.
Andrews. Oh, Royal Liverpool.
He won there before. Got it.
He can't putt, Jake. Yeah, fucking 10 years ago, Jake.

That was when he could putt.

Yeah, he can't putt. Confidence.

But either way, it sucked that Ricky choked.

I agree with you guys.

I'm rooting for Brooks' legacy.

I also – maybe it's just me, but when I was watching this tournament

and Rory was fucking demolishing the ball off the tee, like, what, he hit, like, one, like, 390. I can't be the only person.
I was just thinking the whole time. If Blocky had that distance, he would have, he would have, the tournament would have been over on Friday.
Block would have been over.

So I'm just thinking, man, if Blocky can get this kind of distance,

it's fucking curtains for the rest of the tour.

Yeah, I think if any of us had that kind of distance,

we would probably win the U.S. Open.

Rory McIlroy actually might suck at golf.

He just hits the ball a long way.

It's so far.

He's so small. On the flip side, I love the 81-yard par 3 on Saturday on 15.
I've never seen that before in a major. Yeah, it was crazy.
What other things from this tournament did you guys take away? We saw Blake Griffin and Brooks meeting on Thursday or Friday. That's a great sign.
Blake of the year coming up. Brooks didn't like the course.
What are you going to do? You can't win if you don't like the course. It's not his fault.
The course sucked. He's bored.
Yeah. I was going to say similar to Ricky missing on 18 when Wyndham Clark hit that shot going into 18 in the club twirl.
That was a sign right there. Incredible.
It was going to be a long day for rookie Sunday. So Wyndham Clark got his first win like a month ago.
Yeah, it was a second win over. One time on tour.
And I don't think his top finish at a major was like 73rd, and he hasn't ever played in a Masters. I mean, I'm happy for him.
It seems like this is something that can catapult him into the next stratosphere of his career. But it didn't have that big game feel to me.
It didn't seem like the lights were too bright. It's also really tough because golf is a sport of privilege.
Rich people play it. You're playing it at LA Country Club, which I think have the richest ownership.
The membership has to be the richest of any country club outside of maybe like one of the New York clubs. Like it is the elite of the elite.
And then you have a guy named Wyndham, which is like, you name your kid Wyndham to win us opens and be like a rich prick golf. I think I'm sure he's a really nice guy, but I'm saying like in your head, you're like this fucking guy.
So it took a little bit of the buzz away. Again, he's probably a really nice guy He i'm saying like in your head you're like this fucking guy so it took a little bit of the buzz away i again he's probably a really nice guy he went to high school with christian mccaffrey so like at least he knows a football player like that's cool by me they kept they kept mentioning in the broadcast how he basically copied ricky fowler's putter and that they're like friends but like would you if you're ricky fowler would that like kind of piss you off a little bit yes yeah yeah he cheated on the test yes i yeah that would that would definitely piss me off i i hope that ricky continues to play well though golf is a better game when ricky fowler's in contention on sunday and and and wyndham clark did deserve it because he was like he took he took it at the beginning of the uh day on sunday like he was he had i think one of those early birdies and it felt like everyone else was going backwards or just treading water and he was like, fuck, this is my tournament.
We should say Max didn't play well. He would tell you that.
On Friday. On Friday, that's true.
Thursday, he was great. It sucks.
I know people were coming after us. I consider i consider max a friend it sucks i hope he plays well in a major soon because it no it doesn't suck for anyone more than him like it sucks for him he he wanted to do well so i like he's a great dude he'll eventually do it and when it happens it's going to be the sweetest thing ever i'm starting to make a list just so everyone knows i'm making a fucking list i think i'm number one on the list of max doubters and haters but so i'll do like a suicide vest bomb and then i'll kill up the whole list with myself included yeah it's it's tough to watch because he was he was very much upset on friday very upset on saturday then he he got drunk with Justin Thomas.
Yeah. And they did some commentary this afternoon as the round was winding to.
And I think he was drinking rosé today. I guess that Southern California thing.
But yeah, he was drunk commentating on the final round. And then he was roasting Justin Thomas being like, yeah, if I was out there today, I probably would have shot like seven, eight shots better than you today at least at least max is better than justin thomas that's pretty cool well justin thomas also said who's friend of the program as well said i his golf game's never been worse and he's like hit the lowest point so yeah um i i did see one fun fact about wyndham clark on uh on foreplay they tweeted this out i guess they did an interview with him he blacks out every single number on all of his golf balls, which is very relatable.

So. clark on uh on foreplay they tweeted this out i guess they did an interview with him he blacks out every single number on all of his golf balls which is very relatable so it's like if you hit a titleist two or tailor-made one or whatever um let's say he's playing a tailor-made one and he loses that ball then he takes out like another ball and it's tailor-made two and then he's like it's a constant reminder that you lost a ball that you fucked up so he just writes over all the numbers so they all look the same to him that's that's the funnest fact about Wyndham Clark that I could track down and Christian McCaffrey and he knows Christian McCaffrey and he's from Colorado he's an athlete oh yeah yeah his caddy was like be an athlete I like that chip and then he chipped in and went like 10 feet past the hole dude don't try to be an athlete an athlete.
You're not an athlete. You're a golfer.
Speaking of caddies, I really do think it all went downhill for Ricky when his caddy palled him in the first hole. He palled him all the time.
You can't do that. Did you hear that, though? That's how they communicate.
Yeah, but you can't pal someone there. He's like, yeah, you know, hit this, hit that.
You know, you got this, pal. I would have walked off the course.
I'm like, no, you know what? You don't say that to me. We got to either fight right now or, you know, apologize and never say that again.
You can't pal someone right before they're in the first hole of the final round of the U.S. Open with the lead.
Don't do that. Hank and I played a round of golf yesterday.
And I guess I't tell you what happened around because the video is not out yet i can't say it doesn't matter who won because it was a team thing is a team thing where hank and i were trying together to break 100 through nine holes no spoilers no no i'm not gonna spoil it but i'm just saying as great teammates as me and hank were because the individual score definitely didn't matter and we're never gonna tell who, uh, we never paled each other because we were pulling on the same rope, you know, all for one, one for all. You don't, you don't pal your buddy.
Ricky was done after that. You don't pal your buddy.
I have one other thing. Um, I got to call out.
I, the tracker community is the worst at this point because you can't, and this is not even actually where you guys think I'm going to go. If you track a golfer, you sign up to be like tracking that golfer all the time.
You cannot miss moments. You can't miss things that happen with your golfer.
It's something you depend on because I think I speak for a lot of people who bet on their golfers. The the the broadcast wasn't showing like 90 of these guys they just weren't showing them you need the tracker to track this happened before the tournament um I mean it makes me laugh this is an official statement uh another update there will be no tracking for the U.S.
Open on this account I'll be in attendance at Bonnaroooo i might check in every once in a while but i'm looking forward to a fun time on the farm as always follow fleetwood legion for shot by shot updates hashtag let's go tommy that was from tommy tracker 420 it's the u.s open you can't fucking skip the u.s open if you're a tracker you gotta hand the account down to account down to somebody else. You have four weekends a year that you absolutely no excuses have to be doing your job as a tracker.
He had to do a playoff the weekend before. That's overtime.
Yeah, but you don't get to take the U.S. Open off because you want to do mushrooms in the woods with your friends.
This is some real shit. Bonnaroo hasn't been cool for like 15 years.
And you fucking skipping the US Open TommyTracker420 don't ever fucking tweet another one of Tommy Fleetwood's shots you're done, it's over if somebody wants to start a new Tommy Fleetwood tracker we will promote that tracker and we'll tell everybody this is the official one, but you have to be committed to it you have to be absolutely absolutely locked in. You cannot miss a shot.
Bubba put me onto the Siwoo Kim tracker because I've been betting a lot on Siwoo Kim. And when he's not tracking, he's some middle school kid halfway around the world.
He just talks about how much homework sucks. Love it.
That's okay. If your guy's not playing, you can do whatever you want.
But when your guy's playing, especially in a major, you're not if your guy's not playing you can do whatever you want but when your guy's playing especially in a major you're tracking that's the rule crazy the clock buddy crazy um also why is he why is he promoting a different fleetwood tracker that's his rival that's his competition well doesn't have that dog in him no yeah apparently he just kneeled down was like i'm not i'm not the official tracker anymore i'm going to if hank was a tracker he would he would take off weekends like this he's like you gotta have that work-life balance i'll tell you one thing henry lockwood could never be a tracker the guy has no i could no not even close to the amount of work i think it to be a tracker. Oh, I can track.

Okay, then you should track Wyndham Clark.

Yeah, track someone.

So I have to pay attention to more golf?

Yeah.

For my job.

No, watch more golf, but not play more golf.

You can't miss a shot.

Of who?

We're going to give you a trial, Hank, at the Open Championship.

I'll do it for Liv.

I'll do it for Liv.

I'll do it for Liv.

For a races tracker? Yeah, I'll Cam Smith. I'll be a Cam Smith tracker.
Deal. See? More work to my plate.
All right. Other things.
Bradley Beal got traded from the Wizards to the Suns. I love the Kevin Durant.
What did we say? Like 2019, you could maybe maybe make the argument yeah 2019 was kind of when the super team era started to shift and we've had the winners of the last few championships have not been super teams where everyone's just you know free agents trades all this kevin durant's just like i'm i'm never leaving the super team era i always have to be on a super team. Brooklyn, Phoenix, let's add another guy on a max contract and have literally no one on our bench, and we'll just see how it goes.
That's the thing. They're not even super teams, really.
They're just super threes. They've got three good players, and then the rest of the team, they didn't even have anybody to trade to the Wizards, basically.
They almost sent the gorilla over to D.C. They have nobody that you could even offload in terms of getting a matching deal.
So they had to send Chris Paul. And who knows if he's going to be a Wizard for life.
I think that he probably will. I don't think that this is a buyout situation.
I think Chris Paul is going to win a championship in D.C. But I think if you look at the way that the Suns are created, yeah, they've got three good players, three great players on their team.
But if you're telling me that they're going to compete with the Nuggets based on this roster, yeah, I don't see that. They have no bench.
Yeah, no bench. Bradley Beal is great, though.
Bradley Beal is a legitimately great player. When he plays.
The injuries start to flare up when you have to play on the Wizards for long enough. That's all I'm going to say about that.
It's very easy to take a day off work when your job description is go on the court with the rest of the Washington Wizards. Minus Corey Kisper, who's awesome.
But yeah, he's had some injuries, but when he plays, he's awesome. The Wizards front office was basically, it's been run by the equivalent of just like a rabid dog for the last, and that's probably given a lot of credit to rabies.
I would say just like a dog with hepatitis for the last six years, and it's starting to get to its brain at this point because the contract that they gave Beal, which Beal definitely, he deserved a big contract because he's a great player, but to give him a no trade clause too was actually insane. Pretty much forced the Wizards to trade him to a team that had no good assets to get in return for him one year after they signed him to this huge contract.
You could have done business with so many other – you could have probably gotten Jalen Brown from the Celtics for Bradley Beal if you wanted to, if you didn't have – was that shrug, Hank? I don't think, I don't. Celtics aren't that dumb.
I don't know. I don't know about that.
You could have gotten at least a talented player, a very talented player for Bradley Beal if you had managed his contract, right? Instead of giving him a no trade clause. And then all of a sudden you have to take what he wants to do.
So the Wizards fucked us up so, so they fucked up the last 10 years of their franchise i hope i'm very hopeful that with the new gm that they're going to try to figure out how to run a basketball team correctly i'm not going to hold my breath but this has been a master class and how not to deal with superstars in the wizard's defense though i will say if you doesn't really matter if you fuck up an NBA franchise, it can still 10 extra money.

Yeah, that makes you the goat.

That's what I'm saying.

Michael Jordan did do shit for the Hornets and sold for 10 times as much as he bought in for.

So I don't think the owners are too, too worried about the product on the court.

Michael Jordan, one of the greatest investors of all time.

What did he buy the Hornets for?

Like $200 million and he sold for $3 billion? $275. What? $275 for $3 billion.
And he won nothing? That's called being the GOAT. He's not only the GOAT basketball player.
He might be – who's better, Warren Buffett or Michael Jordan? The debate should start. Snyder.der 10x Snyder made more money years 2013 years is insane um one last thing with the Suns I kind of like Matt Ishbia the new Suns owner like I like his vibe because he's got very reminiscent of like myself on like day one of March Madness where I'm like I'm going to throw all my money out there and just hope it comes back with wins and just be like, spread it all out.
Or not spread it all out, but I don't care. This new excitement of like, oh my God, this is such a fun thing.
There's no way all of these bets lose. Yeah.
Right. He's a Kevin Durant.
Here's all this money.

He already, he already had all that money,

but Bradley Beal.

Now you have all this money.

Devin Booker,

all this,

but like it will work out.

Like,

it's just like,

and,

and you know,

he's going to wake up in like a year or two and be like,

wait,

fuck,

this probably isn't the smartest strategy,

but I don't blame him because I think I do the exact same thing.

If I ever owned a team where I just be like, give me all the high-priced guys, and I'll figure out the rest later. Yeah, that's a fun way to run a team.
Give me the guy. I want a team with at least four guys' names that I know right off the bat.
I want some marquee titles. I want to sell tickets too.
They're going to sell tickets. They're going to be talked about.
They're going to be, as far as the national conversation at the NBA, people are going to be talking about the Suns like they are going to be favored to win the title. But I don't see how they compete with the Nuggets.
I basically would grade every trade if I was an owner. Can you make a graphic with three or four players being like, who's stopping them on Twitter? And it doesn't have to be, you know, because people did that graphic.
They're like, who's stopping them? And everyone's like, plenty of teams because they're not that. But you can at least throw that out there.
Like, look at them. Big three.
Who's stopping these guys? Yeah. Yeah.
I just wonder what's going to happen with Chris Paul now because he's probably actually not going to play for the wizards i don't want to say that officially but i saw the uh the report is that he's going to be traded to the clippers yeah it's coming home they're going to have they're going to have a big reunion for him um that that would actually be a fun team to watch i feel like the clippers well they they're never healthy either yeah i was gonna say they'll the Clippers are a joke they're never healthy either. Yeah.
I was going to say, the Clippers are a joke. They'll always be a joke.
They just are. I don't mean that.
I love Steve Ballmer. I like the idea of Kawhi Leonard.
I think Paul George has gotten shit on so much he's actually underrated. But as a franchise and how they're run, they always kind of fall into bad things into bad things new stadium though new stadium probably haunted in some way um all right john moran got suspended 25 games yeah i thought it'd be longer the video that he released or i think tmz had it but i guess he he maybe had used it as defense of him lighting a candle with a fake gun, being like, it's been a fake gun all this time.
It's just been a really cool lighter. Not the worst defense.
I kind of like the ingenuity of it. I think if I was Adam Silver, I would have been like, you know what? Fair's fair.
That's a cool lighter, dude cool lighter dude you're right 10 games yeah no it's it like it is embarrassing that he had a gun that could be mistaken for a lighter like if that's if that was actually a gun and he's saying that was lighter he's actually owning himself on that because you can't talk shit about your own gun that way it's it's also just funny the idea of John Morant's house just being full of regular household items, all shaped like guns. Like his toilet's a gun.
His oven's a gun shape. His pool's gun shape.
Everything's just guns. His knives in the kitchen are all guns.
His fucking huge sofa is a gun shape. His TVs are put in a gun shape.
His pool table has a gun logo on it. If he could just make that quick change and be like, Adam Silver, look, I don't own guns.
I just love the shape of guns. I think he would have had a better chance he should come out with a shoe that's just it just

looks like a gun people would buy that shit that'd be hot yeah yeah what are you gonna say billy something with ja moran um i kind of get why he's flashing a gun on instagram live i kind of get it okay Because he doesn't, because his location is revealed. He wants anyone watching his Instagram live to know that he's strapped.
It's a safety thing. You're talking about the ops.
I mean, does your Instagram live always have location? No, but you can just tell from the background.

Yeah, but Billy, okay.

Counterpoint, what if he just didn't go live on Instagram?

Then people wouldn't know where he was.

Well, remember the video we're talking about.

It's not his Instagram live.

It's someone else's.

So someone knows where he is.

Wait, so you think that he was like, oh shit, my friend's going on Instagram live. Better take my gun out so if anyone comes and tries us.
Exactly. Okay.
Just lets everyone know he's not lacking because... Here's what I'll say.
Take I hadn't heard yet. It may be a bad take.
It may be a bad take, but it doesn't matter. It might be, but who knows? If you drop a take I'd never heard, you still have to tip your cap and be like, hadn't heard that yet.
Like if I was on Instagram live and like people knew where I was, I might feel a little vulnerable. Well, right now you're in the studio in New York and you're lacking.
You don't have a gun. Exactly.
So I have an axe. How much cash do you have on you? No cash.
Zero dollars. He's scared of cash.
You think John Morant's got that type of heat on him that people want to go and go after him? He might. Because people know where he is every day when he goes to games and practices.
It's a scary world being famous. Okay.
Do you think that John Moran has ever carried a gun during a game? Like he's strapped into his compression shorts. I would say maybe when injured.
Like when LeBron was drinking wine on the bench. Yeah.
Or if Shannon Sharp showed up to a game. Just keep it underneath your shooting sleeve.
Either way, I hope Ja can stop flashing guns. Well, it's been credit where credit is too, Big Cat.
It's been, I think, two and a half months since Ja has shown a gun on Instagram. And I can't stress it enough enough if i'm the grizzlies like just do a like friday happy hour close off the doors no videos gun everyone shows off their guns to each other it's that simple let him get it out of his system just let him do it and then you just move on next week bring in the new gun show us that it's clear that that's like just let him let him do it.
And then you just move on next week. Bring in the new gun.
Show us that. It's clear that that's like, just let him let him have an outlet for showing his gun.
Or what he should do is he should take all of his guns and just paint little orange circles at the end of the muzzle. So they all look like toy guns, because that's how you can tell if it's a toy.
If it's got that thing that clearly marks, hey, this is not a real live gun that's shooting bullets he should just do that to all of his guns that way he just always say that they're toy guns i agree good other another good idea um okay should we do some who's back of the week let's do it when your home system or appliance breaks down american home shield will help fix or replace the covered item, no matter its age.

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Who's back of the week, Hank? My who's back of the week is David Freeze. Oh, yeah.
Mm-hmm. 2011 World Series MVP

clutch player that whole postseason

St. Louis Cardinals

got voted into the Cardinals Hall of Fame and denied it. Denied entering the Hall of Fame, said he hadn't earned it, that he knew it was kind of a weird decision, that he was going to wear it.
Really made no sense to me. I feel like if you're a World Series MVP, you've earned the Hall of Fame.
It's the most Cardinals story ever. This actually proves that he should be in the Cardinals Ring of Fame for denying his own entry into it because he feels like he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as those other old Cardinals players.
That's the most Cardinals story that you could ever draw. There's plenty of other Cardinals players that aren't World Series MVPs in the Cardinals Hall of Fame.
So that to me is like a 1-1. You're automatically drafted into the Hall of Fame.
Any World Series MVP. No one would ever have known about this story until he did this.
Yeah. So he's actually a piece of shit.
Right. He is.
But it's the the most cardinal thing ever to get a lot of attention to yourself for raising your hand and being like look what a team guy and look how humble i am everybody give me credit for being the most humble individual ever also i just love the phrase like i'll wear this one yeah yeah i'll wear it you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna wear doing a great thing yeah yeah it is the most cardinals thing ever though and yes he will probably they'll probably like force him in they'll probably put him in anyway and he'll look like a good guy he's a piece of shit he should be in no he shouldn't any world series mvp for any baseball team should be in that baseball team's hall of fame i think he got a dui and we don't stand with that but also we're gonna miss bob huggins that's that's that's also the most cardinal thing ever like played the game the right way and we love printed down to first base every time you got a walk and got a dui that's that's the st louis hat trick yes i might jake please fact check me so I didn't... Oh, I don't give a fuck.
November 2002, arrested for DUI. So there you go.
Again, we don't stand for drinking and driving. So double.
And then MVP two years later. DWI, Jake.
Yeah, so two DUIs? I don't think he is wrong. No, DWI.
Wikipedia says two DUIs.

Two DUIs.

Huggy, he also has two, but that's besides the point.

He has two?

Oh, yeah.

Is it DWI?

I think that's the same thing.

Just one or two.

Yeah, I think they just changed it like a few times.

Driving under the influence and driving while intoxicated.

I think those are pretty much. I'm not a lawyer but i i'm pretty sure that you should either way two incidents by the way i i'm uh as an aside i'm gonna miss huggy bear i know he he had to go that was bad 0.21 is bad we do not think duis are funny but i like you can separate the fact that he fucked up and also be like, he's a legendary coach

that makes the sport better,

and it sucks that it ended this way.

Wait, 0.21?

I didn't realize it was a 0.21.

Yeah, dude, he was in Pittsburgh.

He thought he was in Columbus.

Like three times 0.08? 0.21. Not good.
Three times 0.08. Look, it's not good.
I wish Hunky had gotten a driver. I wish he had gotten a driver.
Bad. DUIs are bad.
They actually are like one of those things that like, it's not, there's no jokes. It's like lucky no one got killed.
Like very lucky. Very, very bad.
In this day and age, get a fucking Uberber it's so goddamn easy don't put yourself at risk don't put other people at risk bad bad bad huggy should have like the minute i saw it i was like he's there's no way he's gonna survive this and with all that said i'm gonna miss him and i think that's fair to say i'm gonna miss well that's 12 beers in an hour. Yeah, Billy, we know.
Look, I mean, what was David Fries' probably worse? I was going to say, Huggy might get inducted into the Cardinals Ring of Honor. Yeah, the being in Pittsburgh and thinking you're in Columbus is tough.
It's not good. Don't do it.
Don't do it. Don't do it.
Okay, PFT. Good who's back, Hank.
Thanks. My who's back of the week is United States soccer.
U.S. soccer's back, baby.
Don't, Hank, try to show some fucking patriotism for once. We just dominated the CONCACAF Nations League.
Some say it's a more challenging tournament than the World Cup. We just won it for the second time in a row.
Our new striker, Balagon, he scored. We had Claudio Reina's kid, Gio, out there lighting it up, dicing up the defense.
And then also we brought back Greg Berhalter, the coach from the last team. How'd that work out? Well, we tied the fuck out of Great Britain or England over in Qatar.
Remember that? Then we let him go because you reset after every World Cup. That's when his contract was up.
The funny part about this was we hired a search firm. The U.S.
Soccer Federation hired a search firm. And then they spent like, I don't know, probably $800,000 traveling around the world.
And then they just rehired the same guy that used to be the team. So what I learned from this is that we have to get into the search firm business, whether it's college football, whether it's international soccer.
Running a search firm is the best gig of all time. You get driven around all the major metropolitan cities.
You just fly into an airport, get picked up in a town car, taken to a meeting, town car again, back to the airport. Then you fly to to a nice five-star hotel then you go home and you get paid a fuck load of money to do it and it's it seems like like the best gig of all time dude remember when like i think bill polian had it a few times ernie of coursey all those guys who they just hire and then they just they would get pay like a million bucks and they just hire their friend after doing like six interviews yeah or sometimes it's like, here's a million dollars.
Go stay in LA for a week. Go stay in New York.
Go fly over to London. Come back and then hire like your nephew.
Someone that you're actually related to. It's also like I used to think it was like crazy.
Why would you do this? But it's also genius on the team hiring the search firm because essentially saying we know this is a really important decision and if it goes south we want someone to be able to blame because like if you hire someone and it fucks up then you're like well that was my fault i'm a fucking idiot if you hire someone who then hires someone you can be mad at the person you hired to hire the person and then you never have to take blame yeah it's really really smart and it also insulates you from like any sort of legal obligation that you might have if you don't uncover something about the person's past or whatever then you could get sued but if you hire somebody whose job it is to do that for you then they're like these guys did a bad job don't ask me who hired those guys to run the search firm but they're the ones that you should be mad at not me but yeah greg burr halter's back he sucks i am upset about that um but right now boys are humming just beat mexico trey sacero beat canada in the championship got chip, another ring for the boys in blue.

Dude, we're rolling right now.

This is the golden generation.

We've got a great young team.

I know Hank's rolling his eyes because he's a hater and doesn't like America,

but that's fine.

We've got a great team.

Next World Cup.

It's our year.

We've had this discussion, PFT.

Next World Cup, if they don't get to at least the Elite Eight.

Yeah.

I'm sick of it.

That's it. They need to get to the quarterfinals.
If they don't, then it's a failure. You know how beat it is showing up to a bar at 9 a.m.
to watch America play and them get blown out by the Dutch? Like, can't happen again. How beat is it? Tell me how beat it is.
Beat as fuck. It's so beat.
It is. Yeah, I know.
Because I'm seeing it. Like, I see your face.
It was beat. Billy's never going to recover from that loss to the Dutch.
Billy's never going to go to a bar at 9 a.m. ever again.
All right, my who's back is the Bears, the Chicagoago bears i don't know if you guys saw this um jordan love posted a video today i don't know where i don't know if it was so he took it or someone else took it but he had a video where he said happy father's day to all bear bears fans out there um jordan love is a fucking moron. So Jordan Love basically called Bears fans his dad, and it was like the first moment that I've had in a very long time where I was like, ooh, I think things might be changing because Jordan Love was trying to do an Aaron Rodgers like, I own you, I'm your daddy, and he couldn't have bungled it worse.
He couldn't have fucked it up worse. He's a moron, and it's the first glimmer of hope where I'm like, things are changing.
This guy thinks he's that guy, but he ain't that guy, pal, and the Packers are in trouble. Like, what an embarrassment.
And then Bleacher Report even, because everyone's so used to the Packers kicking the shit out of the Bears, the Bears being the punchline on the internet all the time. Bleacher Report released it being like, damn, Jordan Love didn't hold back.
And it was like, did you watch the video? He literally called us his dad. We are his father.
Yeah, what's sad about this is you're right. He thinks that he is Aaron Rodgers.
Right.'s the only explanation like he i'm actually with you

on this one big yes i would like i would like to be you know put on my my giant cheesehead packers ownership hat and be like no you're misunderstanding this that's bad what he did because even even what he was what he was going for was calling you his son which he has not done anything to make the bears his son never played the bear at this point right never played the Bears, he's just taking Aaron Rodgers and he's basically saying, I'm Aaron Rodgers now.

Right. Never played the Bears.

He's just taking Aaron Rodgers.

He's basically saying, I'm Aaron Rodgers now.

Right.

Congratulations to me.

You can't do that.

I have a big update that just came through from memes here.

Freeze is BAC.

Oh, what?

Breaking Moose.

Breaking Moose.

Oh, sorry.

Breaking Moose.

That was fine.

No, Breaking Moose.

Breaking Moose. I Moose.
Breaking Moose. That was fine.
No, Breaking Moose. Breaking Moose.

I'm Hank almost salty.

B word.

Wait, Hank, you're so salty.

It feels like there's some tension between you and PFT.

You guys played golf yesterday.

We were on the same team.

Breaking Moose.

No tension.

No tension whatsoever.

David Fries, BAC .232 oh shit that's fucking hammered that's so drunk by the way what the fuck that was someone that was a great lifetime stat that someone had that we missed bac and the date and like what happened of your lifetime stats

would be incredible to look at

.244

went out and then lost

the Super Bowl the next day

.257

woke up in my

girlfriend's roommate's bed

hypothetically

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got kissed by my best bro at the bar those parties max can't hear you he just big heads out of they got a good one it was a good one that's totally sober anything anything happened to you this weekend max anything on film we'll talk about it Wednesday or Friday

or Thursday anything anything happen to you this weekend max anything on film then we'll talk about it Wednesday or Friday Derek Henry Lockwood right here max wants nothing to do with talking about this we can wait we'll wait we'll wait we'll wait till we're on first yeah we'll do a film breakdown if you don't want to know what you're talking about if you're listening and you might not not understand, I will post the video again on my Twitter. I'll retreat it.
In the morning, just so people have context. For the show.
Yeah, for the show. I'll retreat it.
But yes, we will talk. We'll all be together on Tuesday.
So we will break it down then. Either way, my who's back is the Bears.
Because Jordan Love, you're a clown. Like, it really was.
Aaron Rodgers did own me. He was my daddy.
Like, any shit he talked, he could do it because I was like, there's nothing I can say. This guy can't even get the simplest joke right.
What a moron. The first game, it's reminiscent of the 2004 Yankees-Red Sox when Martinez called the Yankees his daddy.
And then the chants when he was pitching were all-time, like the who's your daddy. That will be electric in Chicago the first time that happens.
Yeah, if the Bears beat the Packers week one, that clip is going to be – I mean, I'll just tweet it every single day. Like I'll just – I don't know how you could be that dumb.
it makes me think he won't learn to play so i'm excited um all right real quick hank since we're talking about aaron rogers i want to get your comment on the story that broke i think it was last thursday maybe last friday um regarding your patriots that the patriots tried to trade for aaron rogers this obviously first of all i thought that you loved mac jones second of all aaron rogers rejected the trade he didn't want to play for i guess he wanted to do a two two quarterback system with him and bill belichick at the same time playing quarterback but i'm just curious to know from your perspective i thought it's a florio report i thought you were all in on mac jones it might be it might be i'm like i don't know what you're talking about but i I'm assuming that your dad is webbed up a nice web of tall tales

and fun facts.

Webbed up a web, you know?

You whipped up a web.

Yeah.

Okay, Billy.

My who's back of the week is Diamondback Terrapins.

So it was Father's dad.

Did they ever go away?

No, they were breeding. No, they went away for a little bit in like the early 2000s they were endangered back then so i was uh my dad wanted to go to the beach so we were at the beach it's father's day uh i was driving on a road and i noticed there was a bunch of turtles crossing the road uh probably didn't.
They were probably females looking to lay eggs. So I pulled over the car, and I was picking up turtles that were trying to cross the road.
And I realized there was a lot of them, and I was ending up stopping traffic. And I was picking them all up, putting them in a bucket in the back seat that I had.
And what ended up happening was... To do what with them? No, because I was going to deposit them on the other side of the road but the thing was...
Deposit? What is deposit? Do you mean just like pick up and then put down again? Yeah, but there was so many of them. Anyway, the cops...
I literally almost got arrested. The cops pulled up on me picking up these turtles and my dad was being like my dad was like what the fuck are you doing no my dad was like what the fuck are you doing like just like keep driving he doesn't get it so what does he get? he doesn't get that I'm stopping the car trying to pick up turtles to make sure they get to their nesting point.
But he is your son's or, you know, he is your father. So he should get a lot of this.
No, no, he still doesn't get it, you know, 16 years later. So the cops pull up to me and they're like, what are you doing? Why do you have 15 turtles in the back of your car, native turtles? This is technically a felony if you're collecting these for whatever reason.
And I was like, look, I'm just trying to put them back on the other side of the road so they don't get run over. I know they're in danger.
Like, yeah, you're collecting an endangered species. It was, uh, I, in the end we put them on the other side of the road and I didn't't get arrested.
But it was a little touch and go because the cops were pretty pissed that I was collecting turtles. I think you are Chief Saholic, man.
I really do. It also sounds like you definitely were collecting them and got caught.
Yeah. I was going to put them to the breeding grounds.
I was going to put them on the other side of the road. In the breeding grounds in your backyard.
Also, were you going to one of them happen to stay in your truck? Look, whatever got put out, got put out. Maybe some ended up in my truck.
There's no worries about that. No one knows.
How much is one of these dynamite terrapins? They go for about $1,500 on the free market. Just one? And you found 20? They're very endangered.
They're very beautiful. You definitely kept some.
No, I didn't. Well, he was going to.
$1,500? Yeah. You knew immediately right off the top of of your head, how much it costs.
No, no, no. Let's just, you know, the cops came, and I put the turtles back.
Maybe you give the cops one, you take one, put eight back. Look, I may have bribed a cop with a turtle, but I don't think that's for public consumption.
Hey. Jesus Christ, Bill.
I don't even know what to say. Yeah, I don't even know what to say.
I mean, it was so clear you were trying to steal some terrapin turtles for money, and you got caught. No, look, they're very expensive turtles.
Right. You know, they got to their free ground.
Because they're an endangered species, Billy. They're very endangered.
We don't have to talk about it. Because of the black market traders like you.
No, look, look. You know, I made sure they didn't get run over.
There was a couple run over on the road. Running over a turtle is the most demoralizing thing ever because you hear the pop of the shell.
We don't have to talk about that. Jake, what's your name? Money wasted.
Wait, there was multiple dead ones on the road? Yeah, it was carnage. It was terrible.
So I started pulling over and picking them all up. Then the cops came and they asked me what I was doing.
I was like, hey, I'm trying to get these turtles to safety. Definitely not selling these.
Yeah, I'm not selling these turtles for $1,500 a pop. Look, look.
Look, I had about $10,000 worth of turtles in the back of my truck. Yeah.
Billy You're finding like runaway juveniles and you're putting them into your car and driving

away with them so that they can breed.

You're basically Jeffrey Epstein.

No, no.

Like, listen to this.

Like, if you have like 18K worth of turtles in the back of your truck, like in China,

they sell for like probably 2,500 each.

Like it's, you know, you're riding a little high at that point. But anyway, Jake, what's your Who's Back of the Week? Thank you, Billy.
My Who's Back is the College World Series. It was an exciting opening weekend in Omaha.
We had a walk-off in the top of the ninth inning. We had some Cinderella with Oral Roberts, and we have Frank the Tank meeting Peyton Manning.
So, a lot of storylines. Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on. Jake, that's funny.
You mentioned the Oral Roberts TCU game. Did you want to say anything about the call? Yeah, I said we had to walk-off in the top of the ninth.
Okay, but maybe let's put this guy to task let's you know like well yeah we're just gonna just i figured we would expand car ravage let me read his statement uh so for those unaware statement about what he tweeted it he tweeted about like andrew martian said tough look for him and then can you can you redo the call for the listeners that didn't hear it?

Yeah.

And this one is hit

into left field. Did he get it?

Yes, sir.

Walk off.

Nine hitter.

Earl Roberts

rallies

and wins it.

Top of the ninth.

Brutal.

So Karavich's statement, it was

Thank you. rallies and wins it.
Top of the ninth. Top of the ninth.
Brutal. So Karavich's statement, it was all on me.
Come back and do it again tomorrow. My bad.
I'll wear this one. Damn.
Damn. Listen, he's at a point in his career where he can get away with something like that.
Kenny? There's on to tomorrow for him. A lot of people, people not on to tomorrow i hope to get to that level one day i don't know man when you say we're on to tomorrow he just basically re rehired himself he's like i'm not i'm not getting fired because i'm already on to tomorrow i couldn't watch any of the college baseball the rest of the weekend because i was like how could i trust these guys sad yeah chris came into the's like, Daddy, I thought that there was a bottom of the ninth inning.
What's Mr. Ravitch telling me on television? I didn't know what to say.
It was so bad because we do like Carl Ravitch, but, man, it was the double down that killed him when he was like, yeah, it was a walk-off. Like, yeah.
And then he realized wrong. That was, it was tough.
It was bad, bad luck. Thank God they won that game because if they blew it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Big time.
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Okay, we now welcome on very, very, very special guest. You get three berries.
Wow. It is Sean Evans.
You know him from Hot Ones. Friend of PFT and myself.
Finally on the show. Long overdue.
Long overdue. Let's start here.
What do you think of the studio because you're probably like one of the last interviews we're gonna do in the studio we cleaned up for you it looks like uh it might be on its last legs but i shouldn't talk because we have kind of an embarrassing studio sometimes that like when we bring guests to it it's like a little bit of a chicken coop. This does translate better to video than it does in person.
Okay, that's a nice compliment. Yeah, that's where I'd put this one at.
Yeah, because your studio, you play it smart. It's like just very clean and minimal when you see it on TV.
Or when you see it on YouTube. But when you look behind the scenes, I'm sure that that's a shock.
We put all of our dirty laundry out. So people, when they come in, they might be pleasantly surprised that there's not actually like, I don't know, animals living around here.
But I like it because it's honest. You know what I mean? It's an honest set, you know? So in that way, it's kind of comfortable.
And I feel good about it. That actually, like one of the great things about your show, and I don't know, you can tell me if it was intentional or not i always think that when people try to do internet uh shows that look like tv shows they fail yeah because the internet there should be a little bit more there shouldn't be as uh much of a barrier between you and the audience like a big espn sports center set so when you guys were designing your show was that a thought being like hey we we want we don't need to make it like big green screens and shit? Yeah, no, it was just an unintended consequence, really.
Like we were just broke. So we just had to do something with the least amount of money as possible.
And then that solution is just like hanging black curtains from the ceiling. But it ended up being like the best thing that we did because the show travels now.
And that's how we kind of punch above our weight class with guests is because we can just pop up wherever so it was like one of the great gifts and i always think like even if they gave us a bigger budget i don't even know how we'd spend it you know like even if it came in i don't think doing those kinds of improvements do anything for the show if anything i think it like undermines or undercuts it yeah like velvet black curtains you upgrade the material and shit that's hanging maybe i mean we could do better with shapes and materials you know as we go on yeah i like that i like that but it sounds similar to i mean you know the start of this show we were doing it on zoom and skype and a lot of it is like watching people watch from day one where it's not like this big production day one right out of the gate.

Because then you can always get bigger.

You can always grow.

Yeah, you can always get to this point.

Right.

But if you start at that point, people are going to expect things from you.

That's like when we had a show for one day, as you know.

We're like, we don't want a big – we couldn't afford a big studio.

But we wanted it specifically to look like shit so people

weren't expecting it to be some beautiful cinematography.

People root for an underdog, and I think that works for the sets.

I think that works for the shows.

Yeah.

Are there any Hot Ones truthers out there?

I was thinking about becoming a truther that says the sauce actually isn't that hot.

They're acting.

Okay.

Well, I like that idea. And here's what I would say at this point you know we've had hundreds and hundreds of guests if that were the case you know we don't have anyone sign an nda or anything like you'd think that would leak out and then the thing with me you know i'm a chicken wing talk show host of the highest dignity you know if people switch boards with me i'll switch boards with them you know like i go through that whole thing Oh, little like Princess Bride.
Yeah, so I feel like we're fully buttoned up.

Like a... boards with me I'll switch boards with them you know like I go through that whole thing oh exactly what the little little like Princess Bride yeah so I feel like we're fully buttoned up like a truther doesn't have an inch to breathe with this show I don't think you know right but I guess that could be a challenge for you PFT I get bored yeah I think I think like if you don't have truthers there's still room for the show to grow yeah right right that's like the last frontier that you can that you can conquer when there are people that are psycho enough out there to actually think that.
Are there haters? Do you have any haters? It seems like you're the most likable person on the internet. Oh, thank you.
Well, I'd say the same for you guys. I don't know.
I guess it would be, I bet we probably get the same thing because we've both been going on for about the same length of time where the thing that I'd get would be, you guys have changed. It's like people have gotten more famous or whatever it's like oh the show's not like what it used to be like that sort of thing I kind of get yeah uh but I'm also not like super I don't really like check on it or like see it that much I guess everybody kind of sees their own shit but uh but that's the thing that probably I get the most is like the show's changed or whatever but I always think that's weird because I feel like like the show just hasn't changed at all.
It's just like the same set. It's, hey, what's going on, everybody? It's this camera, that camera, whatever.
So it's like the exact same show. I actually think the better criticism is that we haven't changed enough.
But that's probably like the most common one. Right.
And that also, when we get stuff like that, I hear it. Or people will say both.
They'll be like, oh, you guys have changed. I think we get more like more like oh you guys are still doing the same show it's like well we have fun right the sports calendar keeps moving just like your guests keep changing yes yes yes and uh yeah like i think there's something there's fatigue because we're in such a weird time in media where everything is new yeah there's definitely fatigue for any like if you listen to the same podcast over and over every day eventually you're gonna be like oh maybe i need to take a break but then you might come back and i think a lot of the people come back so it's like i never take offense when someone's like oh i took a break and i think if you do anything for more than 18 months that starts like people started saying that to me in like season three of the show and then it like keeps you know what i mean so then you just you become kind of uh desensitized to it, I guess.
Right. And it's also the loudest like vocal minority of people.
We always have to remind ourselves, like if people are like, oh, you guys suck now. It's like, what about like the hundreds of thousands of people who don't have a Twitter account? We're just listening to us and enjoying us every day because those exist.
Right, right. People who don't have a YouTube commenter.
They're not a YouTube commenter. They're watching it.
They watch it. They enjoy it.
Then they go on with their life. Yeah, yeah.
I guess that's most people. And then I always think like, you know, it's not like I just burst through your wall like the Kool-Aid man.
Right. Like, here's an episode of Hot Ones.
You have to click like three things in order to get there. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Do you read the YouTube comments? I like the YouTube comments.
You know, like I'm not jaded by it. I kind of like them.
When a new episode

comes out on Thursday

night, I'll kind of scroll through it and see

what floats to the top there.

Sometimes on nice classic episodes,

if I'm feeling a little down, it's like a picture

of an ex I'll look at or something like that.

I'll go back to a classic episode

and just kind of marinate in it

for a second. So yeah, YouTube comments.

I appreciate the YouTube comments. I love the first guys on YouTube, especially the guys that come in like a week late and comment first.
YouTube comments seem like they're more positive in general than other sections. Yeah, that's what I think.
Or it just feels connected to the show, which makes sense because it's a discovery platform, so people probably find you early on and then they have a connection to it and grow with it so i always feel the youtube comments it just feels like people who really watch and like the show i guess yeah yeah what um so tell me like the the backstory of when you first came out because it is one of those genius ideas yeah that i think a lot of people independently were like oh like we should do a show where we put the guests kind of under pressure you you did it did it first. Yeah.
What I know some of it, but for our audience, like the idea and the first, you know, test of it and being like, Oh, I think we have something. What was that moment? So the moment, so basically what happened was a first we feast was a food blog text, like sort of the intersection of food and pop culture.
But you know, in 2015, everyone's like, we're pivoting to video. Everyone's got to pivot to video.
So we had to come up with a video product. We were working in a magazine office, similar to this.
You'd see celebrities walk in the halls all the time. So we were like, well, maybe a celebrity interview show would be viable, you know, like just for our proximity to it.
And then Chris Schoenberger, who is the general manager of First We Feast was like well you know we should do a celebrity interview show celebrity interview shows are boring how do we make them not boring and he was like well what if we interviewed celebrities but had to meet increasingly spicy chicken wings over the course of the interview as a way to break them down and then i was like dude you're a fucking genius so uh we started hammering out a pilot and then we shot it with Tony Yayo from G-Unit. That was our first ever episode.

And then we just kind of never stopped making them, and I recognized pretty early on that it had potential. The first shoot was like Machine Gun Kelly in a red leather jacket doing laps around the studio, swearing up a storm, and it was so insane in the studio.
It felt so gonzo and off the wall that i'm like this is gonna translate to video and just be something that people haven't seen before you know it's just so like i could recognize the hit of it all in that room but no one gave a shit about the show at first it was actually like i used to joke with chris all the time i'm eating a lot of really spicy food and no one cares you know like i don't know how't know how long I can sit on this pace. And then our first real breakout episode was the key and peel episode.
And that was trending and front page of Reddit and all of those sorts of things. And the show was just kind of off from there.
There's these like tentpole episodes along the way, but that's more or less kind of how the plane got off the ground. I'd imagine Paul Rudd.
Yeah. Like that.
I mean that you became like everyone uses that gif all the time. You know what's funny though is in that moment I didn't recognize it as anything.
Yeah. And then I've talked to Paul Rudd since then and I remember being like, when you said look at us, did you, he goes, I'll be honest, I didn't even remember it when I walked out of the room.
He's like, people are just yelling, look at us, look at us on the street. And then eventually somebody got to him and be like, oh, have you seen this thing? But I didn't even know that that would be a thing.
And that's broken containment and gotten almost bigger than the show itself. It's perfect.
It's like a little encapsulated moment, but it was such a small part of that interview because I think it was like 30 minutes long. Yeah, right.
And it was in the middle of a much bigger like connecting bro moment that you guys had where he was telling you like you're good at basketball you should have been cut from your high school basketball team that's right and when i watched that for the first time i was like that's paul rudd's a sweet guy yeah and then i and then everybody yeah they just zeroed in on that one moment look at us yeah yeah did you actually feel better after that interview did he actually gas you up you know what i do after a lot of the interviews uh you know counter you know to what you might think they're very positive experiences and then when you mess with spicy foods you can get a head high off of them so it's kind of like you end up in this bizarre abstract place with the guests where you're just kind of in space and i've come to enjoy it as spicy as it is like the twilight hours of an interview are my favorite parts of the hot one yeah has there been a time when like a celebrity comes in and they're doing a press junket they're advertising for a movie or something and their publicist has not adequately prepared them and they're not familiar with the show and they're coming in like trying to give canned answers and battle because that's really a battle yeah the genius of the interview format is you can't give canned answers when you're when you're feeling a physical interruption right how your brain works has there ever been somebody that tries to keep doing that i mean the early early days i remember i was just talking about this feeling um almost embarrassed by the show you know because we would seriously have we'd like let's say there's a uh junket right and it's at the beverly Hills Hotel we would rent a suite and then literally just hang black sheets from a suite and so whoever like Charlize Theron would go to like an elevator downstairs come up and then walk into this suite with just sheets hanging and the bed pushed up against the wall and then me just standing there with the hot sauces and just being like sorry you know like they walk in and the publicist is trying to top line it like while they're walking in and then she's like looking at you like are we eating all of this you know like that it's we've already started off and i feel it's just a tears of a clown sad situation right you know so that used to happen kind of all of the time but i guess what's changed and so i think now people walk in with a mindset, almost like, you know how if you'd walk into a Howard Stern interview, it would be a different mindset. You're like, I'm doing the Howard Stern interview.
He's going to ask me how I fuck. Exactly.
Like that's not an outrageous question from Howard Stern because you know, you're doing the Howard Stern interview. I think now a lot of times people come in and then they're ready to do their internet interview of record or or whatever so i feel like they come in ready to melt their face off ready to kind of bare their soul in a way that's unique and go through this crazy experience and have this uh career spanning interview so but in the beginning it was always like that just i saw publicists uh deal making and bargaining in real time right in front of me while i just stood there sat there pathetically in front of the hot sauces and the wings i would watch a compilation of interviews from those early days uh of celebrities on the junkets that they had to do an interview right after your interview right see like the lingering heat and trying to deal with like an actual okay back to reality interview with like entertainment tonight or whatever and they've got hot sauce all to their face.
That would be awesome. Exactly.
Yeah. Spitting the mic.
But I, well, sometimes what they'll do because Fallon, when we were on 50th street, Fallon was right across the street. So somebody would come in, you know, dress like they're going to dress on Fallon and then walk right across the street to do Fallon after doing hot ones.
Now we tell people all the time, because we were amazed how often we'd be like a 10 a.m., 11 a.m. interview and then they'd have a full day of press afterwards.
Now we just tell people like we're like a four o'clock. You want to do us at the end.
Right. Right.
At the very end. Who's your white whale? Right now, because I just listen to people who yell at me on the street.
So forever, Gordon Ramsay was our white whale. Like, you know, every time we put up an episode, people were like, where's theordon ramsey episode nobody cared about anything that was going on so it's just an albatross going around my neck so finally we crossed him off the list and then i thought the requests would stop but now keanu reeves is like one of the most requested he said in a recent ama that he wouldn't do it but you know like these and then um who else is like like the rock still hasn't done it that's like.
Yeah. So I guess you just try to, I try to work through white whales just so people stop yelling them at me in airports.
Yeah. What about, you should get like a child star on.
Like a nine year old just burned their face off. Little Tay.
Yeah. Little Tay.
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I saw you wanted to have Howard Stern on.

Yeah, well, Howard Stern, David Letterman,

Adam Carolla, and Jimmy Kimmel were probably the formative,

most influential broadcasters for me growing up.

So if you did have Howard Stern on,

would you, like, at the spiciest wing,

would you be like, are you a sellout?

Well, he would never do the show.

No, he wouldn't.

He would never in a million years do Hot Ones.

Which sucks.

But I And then when you

Thank you. Would you, like, at the spiciest wing, be like, are you a sellout? Well, he would never do the show.
No, he wouldn't. He would never in a million years do Hot Ones.
Which sucks. And then when you say yeah, he would probably say, like, yeah, right? Yeah.
Maybe. I think he'd probably try to explain away his sellout.
Yeah, yeah. Because he has sold out.
You should do, like, a swap with him and be like, I'll go on your show and ride the Sibian. Ride the S actually yeah that's a that feels right you know fair currency exchange yeah yeah what can you say who your worst one was yeah i'm i think you know i i wish i had i wish i had like just a good podcast anecdote for like the worst one and it's usually a very positive experience but the one because i think with interviews they're like movies you know if they're bad enough they're awesome oh definitely like the worst ones can be better than the best ones yeah and i think a good example of that is we had dj khaled come in super early and then he tapped out on the third wing like completely rejected the format of the show like before it even started that guy doesn't anything't eat anything.
Yeah. And well, you know what? I remember a memory that I have of that is like walking into the studio and before we laid down the wings or anything, he was already eating pizza.
And I remember being like, dude, we're about to eat these wings. He's like, I'll be fine.
I'll be fine. And then he was just eating like one of those New York $2, like massive greasy slices.
So maybe that was the problem all along. But that's like a good, so bad, it's good kind of Hot Ones episode.
We've actually toyed with the idea, because it is tough, because you don't want to bash a guest, because then you're getting future guests. But we've toyed with the idea of running a worst of, which would be like, no one does worst ofs.
Where it's like all of our bad interviews just in one episode. That sounds good.
But then you bring up the idea of people would bash. Oh, be like, why am I on the worst ofs? Yeah, right.
Although there are a couple that would probably expect that. One would sue, and then the other, like Dan Marino doesn't have Twitter.
No. Yeah, so Sean, from your perspective, because you are an AWL, what's the worst thing about part of my take and what are our worst moments?

All right.

Well, here's a criticism I have,

but it's of all sports podcasts and I understand it,

and listeners probably need it.

But it'll be like March and we're talking about the NFL

for the first 30 minutes of the show.

The football.

I'm with seasons.

You know what I mean?

So sometimes.

I think we actually have. And recently.
I think we used to do that worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think so too. You're right.
You're right. We had a moment.
It was actually Mike Singletary, legendary bear. We interviewed him at the Super Bowl and we ran it in like March.
And people were like, what? Like why? And we're like, you know what? We got to do a better job because I actually think that like one thing I love about this show is that we do talk all sports but yeah you're right there are some times when football will dominate but off season can i gas you can i say the things i like yeah can i say the things i like well you two seem to genuinely like each other we do you know what i mean and i and i know that you genuinely like each other and kudos to you for making that work especially in this age. Like, I can't imagine if I had a Siamese twin with me through this whole thing and making sure that relationship or whatever.
So I think there's that. But then it's also just the ensemble cast here.
You know, you guys play a great role as well. Because then I can feel like when I'm listening to the show that I'm just with my friends sitting here talking about sports.
You know what I mean? You have like that side of it. And then Grit Week is amazing.
The bets are amazing. Sorry, Max.
They don't seem to go your way, but, you know, you're a good sacrificial lamb for the whole thing. It's from an AWL perspective.
It's really interesting. He's a great loser.
The great really is. One of the greats.
That's what Checo said that about Max Verstappen, right? Yeah. You're a great loser, Max.
Yeah. Thanks, guys.
You're the best. And you are a loser.
Yeah yeah you're a great loser max yeah thanks guys you're the best and you are a loser yeah you're a loser loser that's actually like it's it's kind of analogous to the show you win at losing yeah yeah no i and i'm and i got a lot of experience it with it so i'm and you know what but and better and your value is growing through it you Like, the further you slide, the more your value grows. Like, you've inverted it somehow.
Yeah, I have thought, like, in a bizarro world, I've told you this, yeah. The Phillies won the World Series, the Eagles won the Super Bowl, and the Sixers won the finals.
I would be the most hated guy. I've had this conversation with Max because it is the weirdest thing at Barstool that you obviously are rooting for your teams.
But when they lose, there's a weird silver lining of, well, people won't start just hating me because I'm winning. You know what I mean? It's almost like one of our biggest episodes ever was the double doink.
And it was because people just wanted to see me as sad as possible and like that like it is a very fucked up thing to like do the mental gymnastics like you don't want to lose but losing is not the worst yes again that sounds like the biggest loser talk ever but yeah you i mean i do think our show um like our relationship me and pft and then everyone else like i i listen to other podcasts and i don't know

if there's any other podcast that has two hosts have been doing it for as long because a lot of podcasts are solo yeah or there's one like main host and then an ensemble but yeah i think just us hanging out and liking each other does go a long way because people want to just hang out that's yeah that's exactly the experience that i have and uh i think another way that you can judge a show is like how good are the vibes on recurring guests you know i think that's another way and the vibes are very high on the show love the blakes became a huge dk metcalf fan because of the show but then i think my problem piece of shit and then i think the reason why i say that dk knows this he ducked us on the nfl draft. He specifically requested I take time out of my busy day to do a Seahawks thing with him on draft day, and then he just left New York because he was afraid of me.
He knows he's scared, though. Yeah.
He's a bitch. He probably won't even come back on the show.
Whatever. But the proudest I am of you guys is when I see you guys knowing where you came from and how you made this work

Seeing you interview like the old guard, you know, it's like the Chris Berman. Yeah view to me

Yeah, that's a problem. Those are those that was big for me.
Yeah, help you well

Yeah, it's funny you mentioned like the ensemble cast because I think big cat and I I've described us before as like sometimes

The stern father and the crunchy granola mom on the show. Yeah, and anytime things get stale in our relationship we just have another kid yeah and it saves the marriage so that's that's actually a good role that max has filled any any latent aggression that we might have towards each other gets immediately redirected on somebody new and if they can take it then that's really the most important that character trait that they have yeah the secret to the show success yeah i mean i i do love just hearing from other people too because like i mean piazzi and i have talked for thousands of hours so sometimes like yeah let's have someone else's opinion and then we can make fun of that person yeah that's pretty much it uh billy's been talking a lot about how ai's or artificial intelligence is going to take our jobs one day yeah yeah i I actually yeah.
I actually think that your show might be AI-proof. Right, because AI can't eat.
It can't feel spice. It can't feel pain.
You know, in certain ways, I do think I've protected myself in the format of the show because it also makes it hard to just go out and get another host too. True.
You know what I mean? So I always feel I've insulated myself that way but am i ai proof right because ai can't eat the wings but i guess though name likeness they can recreate my voice yeah but then i'm wondering too though maybe we've like timed ai kind of perfectly you know what i mean like when it does get to that point and then we just license away our name and likeness and then just disappear to an island somewhere that's actually a great point with like steady royalty checks coming out that might be the new pension so I always think hopefully it's AI proof but then the basement on it is like it's not badly timed. Yeah, that is true.
Yeah, we've had a good run. Yeah, yeah.
We've had a good run. Fitting it tomorrow, we can look back on this.
Yeah, yeah. What a ride, you know? You did have a quote in an article.
I think you did. Maybe it was Vanity Fair.
You've been written up a couple times, which are always interesting, but it bummed me out because it made me start thinking about this show uh-huh when you said like yeah i'm probably i've probably done more hot ones than i will do right closer to the end than the beginning and i don't like to think like that but it's a hard thing to like stop and be like wait because you don't know when the end yeah yeah yeah if i could do this show forever i would but like you never know right so i mean he's gonna be in the18. He might run this after he dies.
Oh my God. Probably.
Yeah. In memory.
Yeah. RIP.
Do you want to say anything nice about me now that I'm dead? Yeah, it is. Like, do you think about that often? Because it is kind of a bummer to think about, but also you saying that out loud, I like, I don't want to sound sappy, but it was kind of courageous.
Cause it's like, I'm more of a, I'll just ignore it and be like nah fuck everything will stay the same forever it's good it does it is it is uh existentially kind of taxing because i love everything about what i do right now i love the people that i work with i love the show i look forward to thursdays when the episodes go up and i just look forward to just watching it it's just a show that i really like and uh i'm like king of my little castle and because we've been doing it with the same team since the beginning it's kind of like a family affair and then it feels good from an audience um reception point of view and we've been able to go 20 seasons and beyond that so everything about it feels so good and I don't look around at anybody and wish I had that you know what I mean I don't look at any I wouldn't switch places with anyone in media entertainment podcasting or whatever and I mean that there's not another show that I want another podcast like whatever like the thing that I have is exactly what I want and then I don't have world takeover aspirations you know I'm not Kevin Hart I'm not the rock you know like this is all good for me I don't need to be king of the world I'm just, I like just my little plot of land. You know what I mean? No.
I don't even aspire to be any bigger than it is, you know? So if I could hold onto this, I will for as long as I want. And then I've done enough TV, like just enough TV to know that I don't want to do that.
You know, like it's just the exact perfect lane and I'd like to stay in it as long as long as I can. And I love doing the show.
So I don't know exactly where I see the end of it. So revisiting that quote, I almost want to step that back and be like, no, and see how long I can go.
But I mean, it has been now over eight years and 20 seasons. So, I mean, I don't know how much, but I, I, I love it.
And I don't want it to stop it's interesting you say that because you know we've talked all adios know that we talked ad nauseum about the bvt thing and everything that's happened and we always say like it was actually the best thing the best thing and one of the parts of it being the best thing is it did kind of put us in perspective of like why are we trying to be on tv when we have this and it's awesome and People love it like we don't need to do world takeover we don't need to be these big tv stars like this is more fun than being on tv because i do think at the beginning of the show it was such a rocket ship for us and we're like next step next step next step and then when we got to that step and it didn't work it's like wait maybe we don't maybe this is, maybe this is the step. We're here.
We're at the top. And people like it.
And then what else, why do this for any other reason than to put on a show for an audience that cares about what you do? So as long as you have that, that's the lightning in a bottle. And then once you lose that, you're just going to try to capture that over and over again.
And nothing says that you will. So while it's in its moment, just appreciate just appreciate it ride it and see if you can put some fuel behind it because once that's over it just might be like over it's great perspective and i think that people are skeptical of it because they don't understand like saying like i don't want to be on tv but like that's how i feel now you know what i mean like i think people just expect uh you know media people to to always want to go to the next step and it no, I actually don't want to be on TV.
And then we'll have to be in a movie after that. Right.
And then you have to have bosses. Yeah.
Then you have to take some time away from Hollywood and write a play and try to find yourself on Broadway. Got to make Broadway.
Right, right, right. Stage cred.
When people are like, oh, yeah, you guys are going to leave bar. So it's like, do you realize that I've had a company card that no one's me a question about for fucking like everyone in this room has my card on their uber like no one asked me a question i would never give that up it is it is pretty nice so sean when you were when you were talking about kind of your mindset behind uh where you're at right now i don't think i've ever told you this big cat but sean and i went out to dinner this was a couple years ago and i was in the middle of trying to figure out where my contract situation was yeah yeah I remember and uh I had that same mindset that you had and it's like you have to appreciate what you have you're in the perfect location you don't have to go out try to prove anything by doing something elsewhere on your own and the fact that you verbalize that back to me that made me feel feel like, okay, so I'm not just being afraid of going out.

I actually like what I'm doing, and I want to stay here.

So, Sean, you say PMT.

Yeah.

Congrats.

It was a weird time because it was one of those times that PMT and I talked about it throughout the whole thing.

Right.

And it was like we had very honest conversations where it was like, hey, we love working, but we also understand like there's business sides to this that we can't control. So it was always like we're very upfront with each other, but it was it definitely was weird for both of us.
We're like, yeah, we want to keep working together, but we also know it might not happen. Right.
Yeah. And money doesn't necessarily fill that hole that you said, which is like the connection with the audience that you have, the connection with people that work with people should value that more than money now i'm not saying like it's female behavior to chase a bag like jason whitlock said about pat mc but i am saying that you have to know what you value and i think we have that same shared value which is like there's something meaningful in the connection that you have with the audience with the people that you work with that money will never replace yeah i mean you have a hit show how fucking crazy is that you know what i mean and that's what everyone wants and is chasing anyway and then that'll take care of the other stuff you know your life gets a little bit better when you have a hit show so whatever it might not be the exact dollar amount that you want or whatever but if you have uh an audience that cares then that should kind of be enough you know has there been a big thing that has been offered to you that you've been like no thanks yeah i yeah i say no to everything you know what i mean like and i don't even really want to add more to my plate you know like there's that side of it where everybody wants to uh you know fully uh put your hand in as many honey pots as you possibly can and make this thing I'm like, I don't know.
Like there's 36 interviews a year that I like really care about outside of that. Not much, you know, honestly.
And then there's not a ton that I want to add to my plate either. You know, I spent a lot of time in airports.
It's a labor intensive show already, or at least takes up a lot of time. So I, yeah, I don't know.
Like then that's, it's just, everything's good for me. Right now, I feel like I could take this and make it last for a while.
Your agent must hate this. Kind of.
Kind of. Good question.
I don't want to do anything. Shout out to Ben.
Shout out to Ben. Yeah.
Right, right. That actually can come from- He's like, shut up, Sean.
That can come from a couple different camps. You know what I mean? That can be internal, lot of people be like can you please just do this um and you know sometimes i do but uh but but also at the same time that also makes me low maintenance you know what i mean like it's like you you fix one corner of the carpet you mess up the other one you know sort of thing and and right now that's what i think is good that i'm just kind of i'm just kind of low maintenance yeah i i have those moments where i'm like i'll just be like i'm never Like, why the fuck would I do that? And they're like, we got to shop.
We got to get options. Stop fucking saying that.
Like, can you please stop saying that? Yeah, I know. You're shrinking his leverage position, you know? There was a moment that we had last fall where Billy- I remember.
Tried the, was it the last dab hot sauce? Yes. Put that on the part of my cheesesteak, had ity style yep yep and he absolutely flipped out like that's probably i know i'm gonna ruin my whole night yeah how do you deal with the post the post show triggered how how yeah i've trained myself like a dog my favorite part of my week is the post show dude because no.
You know, like that's the time that they know I'm not going to email back. They know I'm not going to text back.
I go home or back to the hotel, put on basketball shorts, crank the AC. It's like Pavlovian to me at this point.
I've gotten to a point where it's my favorite part of the week. But are you talking about like taking a shit or like the stomach? No, just waking up like well ruin sleep have to go to work the next day you're so dramatic i know there's no way i know there's no way you had that kind of a night on three bites of like a cheese steak with some no no but the thing is like when i did the hot wing challenge on grit week or every time i do like a hot wing challenge like it's like it's a lot afterwards like actually because you eat one you only you only eat one wing right right yeah i mean well i mean there's 10 wings in the thing but the way i look at it is like the first five if you don't if you don't have any sort of hot sauce experience like kick or whatever but i always think about it for me to have this cartoon life it's uh once a week eating three spicy bites right yeah but it's the other side of it is like the more often you do it i think the more your biology adjusts to it so i can go from a shoot to equinox like i can go from a shoot to the gym you know at this point in my life it doesn't it doesn't break my stride so you gotta eat more hot stuff yeah that's what we're saying get your weight up yeah yeah you gotta you have uh do you have like a reminder that you set for yourself after you're done eating like don't don't take a piss and use your hands i mean once once you do that any cross-pollination hot sauce mistake you can make i've made and then those are pretty uncomfortable so you just tend to not make those again you know yeah um but every once in a while i can catch it even if you thoroughly wash your hands you know even if it was yesterday you know like every once in a while i can still get you when it gets under your nails yeah yeah there's no place to know no you know what never i've never like uh thread the needle that way it's never like i've never independence dayed yeah into the p-hole with hot sauce yeah but i got time baby i got.
Another 20 seasons. That's awesome.
You see one hot commercial, you're like, I got to. That's a great way to think about it, where it's like Randy Quaid just driving a ghost pepper up his date.
Yeah. That's immediately where the mind went.
I would have a no hands on shoot days if I were you. I would wear basketball shorts, and then I'd just pull them down, go pants all the way on the ground.
Oh, yeah. And then pull them that's a good move maybe I'll take that I'll take that yeah um well Sean this has been awesome you're a recurring guest now all right come back on I'm in the club I have one last question I'm sure PFT does well but No Bowl is known for their best in class award-winning footwear with options across training and lifestyle No Bull has options for everyone exclusively for Barstool listeners.

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That's www.nobullproject.com backslash barstool for 30% off i want i had it's a three part question so it's it's dumb like hypotheticals that we all know like this stuff doesn't it reality is not this so you don't actually have to worry about it's more like what would happen thought exercise so yeah like what if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow right right right what i mean nothing right i mean we is that the first question yeah that's the first question oh what if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow yeah like again we know the sun's gonna rise tomorrow so it's not a big deal talk about breakfast but i don't know but the the herd mentality of the sun not rising i think is it but like a tsunami kind of butterfly. Right.
People freak out if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow. But I wouldn't.
It'd be fun. I'd be chill with it.
Okay, yeah, sleep in. What if Hot Ones never happened? Then I would be, oh my gosh, I'd still be doing architecture tours of the Chicago River.
Okay, perfect. I'm not good at anything besides what i do it doesn't matter because hot ones happen so you're good and like the last one i just saw off the top of my head like what if justin field isn't the guy all right well i let's unpackage this because again we know he's the guy he is the guy he is the guy he is well you know here's the thing is being a chicago sports fan you're always ready for a rebuild to blow up and take another eight years to give you any kind of hope.
So I'm like fully practiced and going through it right now with the White Sox anyway. But here's my thing.
Justin Fields, I don't even really understand Bears fans that have like the other side of the argument. You know, I'm like, what have you been watching right your whole life right you know like those jay cutler years we threw like 22 picks and six or 22 touchdowns and 16 picks that's the best quarterback play that we've ever seen by far otherwise you have like one eric kramer pro bowl year yeah and like like jim miller to us is like a good very good the jay cutler year the best year he, he broke his thumb because he was making a tackle after an interception.
Just put that into perspective. Right.
That was him playing his best ball. That's what I've seen.
So I don't, like prior to last year, I don't know if I've ever seen the Bears with my eyes get a third and 12. You know what I mean? Like, like one holding call destroys the whole.
So like now with Justin Fields flying around, like I don't even understand Bears fans who have that other side of that coin opinion. Okay, so I understand it in that I think what people are doing is they're trying to get in front of it before they get hurt again.
Okay. Do you know what I mean? It's like a cope.
It's like a cope. Like, oh, he won't turn out because they don't want to believe in something.
Right. I want to believe in something.
I do too. I'm dying to believe in something.
What what the bears did last year even though they only won three games i don't remember like maybe maybe obviously the lovey team that went to the super bowl and that defense maybe the 2018 team because it felt like that defense is on that level but like waking up on sunday and being like i'm excited to watch the bears play football right is not a normal feel it is not a year in and year out feel at all but i do think there are people and i probably i've done it every now and then we're all just like walking and i'll be like wait what if he's not the guy fuck and like this this this like wave of like uh pessimism and dread comes washes over me and i also week one is going to be the most important non-playoff game in Chicago Bears history. In a while, in a while.
Because it is the Jordan love. Like, if the Packers beat the Bears, then they have all season to be like, ha ha, you idiot Bears fans.
Right, right. So, yeah.
I think I'm going to go to that game, actually. You should go.
We should go. Is it, we can't go on Sundays because we have to work.
You know what we should do, though? Week five, Commanders-Bears. Yeah, we can go to that.
Thursday night. Yeah, we can go to that.
Yeah, yeah, let's do that. Yeah, I want to go to that.
Yeah, I want to go to that. So he's the guy.
He's the guy, but it would be very Bears. It would be Bears-y in if he's not.
I don't, I think this one would hurt the most. It would, yes.
This restart would hurt the most. And too, because I'm getting too old, you know? Like I'm starting to get there where I'm like, so they're not going to be good until I'm in my 40s.
I have no hope until then. I can't go.
That would suck. But I'm practiced.
It would hurt the most, though, too, because it feels like there's just such a blank slate with the team, the roster, free agents, all that shit. All my team's got to start playing better.
Well, Jerry Ryansdorf has to sell. I don't know how you do it as a white socks ambles fan i know he is the worst he is the worst and he doesn't get enough credit for being the worst you know if i give him the benefit of the doubt it's he's a very loyal guy or he's loyal to his guys you know what i mean much i know not not a good not a good um not a good quality for a professional sports owner uh as i think that we've seen play out In fact, I was complaining to my dad the other day because I was like, you know what's crazy? Take 2005 out of it.
The White Sox have not won a playoff series in my entire life. Dude, that's crazy to think about.
Because if you ask me, I'd be like, oh, the White Sox haven't been that bad. They won a World Series.
Yeah. In 2005, take that out.
They haven't won a playoff series in my entire life. And I was complaining to my dad about this, not to undersell 2005.
It was amazing, one of the greatest summers of my life. Shout out to all the legends.
But I was complaining about this to my dad. I'm like, I'm 37 years old.
They've won a playoff series in one year of my entire life. And he goes, oh, cry me a river.
Same for me, and I'm 68. You know what I mean?

If you really look at the history of how sort of oscillating

between mid and being ass cheeks they are,

it's statistically, it defies everything.

It's the same as the Bears.

It's definitely, they are both franchises that owe their fans

so much better than they've delivered on in recent history. But the fans are amazing.
It's a great sports town. And I'm too deep in.
I've committed too much. So I just have to stand by my man and ride it out.
Ride it out. I mean, it's a big if, but if Michael Jordan doesn't exist, like Jerry Reinsdorf is the worst writer of all time.
Right, right. Like he, you know, that, like he really like Michael Jordan jordan he wins six titles like there's nothing really else besides that that he can show for right and he didn't even draft him right so does he pretend to be poor he does he i don't know yeah i like those guys i like i i respect the billionaires that are like i just don't have any money i'm sorry what do you want from me he he did a uh i don't know if you heard it but he was like he was like doing a crypto conference or something and he was bemoaning how he's like you know all these uh teams are selling for billions of dollars i don't believe it like the revenue doesn't show it's like dude shut the fuck up right right just take your bill billions and go yeah i don't even i don't even understand the motivation of like owning like that, except if you buy in where he bought in.

I don't know. It was like $20 million and now what's that worth? $25 million and now what's that worth? But otherwise, if you get in the game now, what's the point other than to win and leave some kind of legacy or something? Yeah.
If you're one of these old owners, though, you have also seen, obviously, the value of the team has grown so much over the years. but also just numbers wise, your expenses that you write out,

those have also gone up yeah due to inflation also the market just getting massive for professional sports i think a lot of old owners have the mindset of just they hate to spend money so all they see is like oh i'm spending all this money now right and all that has exploded so i can kind of understand the sticker shock but if you're not built that game, then get the fuck out of it. It's also like the difference between an owner who is rich and then buys a team versus an owner who bought a team and then got rich because of the team.
Right, right, right. So like the same with the Bears.
Like they just – all the McCaskey's money is that team. Right.
So I think it distorts you and fuck, man. Justin Fields has to be the guy yeah i mean that would take care of a lot of this it would it really would solve a lot of problems at the very least he's so much fun to watch yeah yeah like he's actually his highlight reel is i love it i he's the guy he is the guy see what i'm doing right now i'm talking about i let that both of us we're working together we're working together look at you guys yeah look who would the thought? Not me.
Best quarterback in the league. I am going to just, I have like a file of people I want to dunk on.
If he ends up winning an MVP or a Super Bowl. Oh, yeah, I'm sure you do.
I'm sure you do. Yeah, yeah, you've been keeping receipts.
And I've said this before, but I now, anyone who calls any quarterback, people who criticize Lamar Jackson, I will take up that fight and fight for Lamar and Jalenalen Hurts. Like anyone's like, oh, all he does is run.
Lamar sucks. I don't want Lamar.
Shut the fuck up. These guys are really good fucking passers too.
Fucking assholes. Well, Sean, this has been awesome, man.
Yeah. Thanks so much for having me.
We got to have you back on. Recurring.
It's a dream. That would be a dream.
Yes. Recurring guest here.
Yes. Recurring guest here.
Well, when you come for the Bears-Packers game,

maybe just watch it with us in the gambling cave.

All right, I'll do that. That'll be just as fun.

You can watch it live in person.

Are you guys going to be in Chicago by then?

Oh, yeah.

Fuck, yeah.

All right, I'll be back.

I'm going to be there next week.

Summer in Chicago.

Yeah.

Give me some tips.

It's beautiful.

Give me an insider tip about Chicago.

Take the architecture tour.

I'll go on there with you. Maybe if I still remember my game.
But it's really good. But don't go to any tour.
You got to go to the Chicago Architecture Foundation one. All right? Because that's going to be a former architecture professor or something like that.
Chicago's First Lady. That's the one to do.
Don't worry. I'll get you sorted.
Okay. Which is the one that had a bunch of shit dumped on it by Dave Matthews Band.
Was it that one? It might have been, yeah. I'll take my chances.
What's your favorite wings? Is it Buff Joe's? You know, here's the deal. Once this show's done, I can never look at another chicken wing again in my life.
That's fair. But I guess the Kansas Chicago one, and they are good, like the Toons wings.
Yep. You know, Toons kind of classic.
Bird's Nest is my favorite. Bird's Nest is another one that I kind of recommend because I get that question when people are in Chicago.
I have an encyclopedic knowledge of wings or something, but those are the ones. And then- We got to get you wing nuts in Buffalo.
Yeah. What's your deep dish place? Pequod's.
Oh. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're kind of old school, you know? Yeah, I love Pequod's.
Yeah. There you go.
Also, fuck, what's it called? You know what's really good about the bird's nest wings? Every time I've had them, there's serve, and there's just steam coming off the wings. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, that does kind of sound nice. Maybe that could get me back into wings.
All right, well, Sean Evans, thanks so much, man. Thank you, guys.
Rated T for Team. reigns the return of promos plus intergender matches my gm goes multiplayer and more wwe 2k25 available now okay mount rushmore time today we're doing mount rushmore of guys not to fuck with good one this is a good one this is a spicy one what Hank? Problematic? Why? Why would it be problematic? What's problematic about guys not to fuck with? I think it's a problematic if you make it problematic.
It's not gender inclusive. Oh, girls not to fuck with, too? No, guys is...
That's not where Billy was thinking. Billy had some answers that were problematic.
He had no idea what you're talking about.

Guys is neutral.

Yeah, guys not to fuck with.

We'll do girls not to fuck with after.

We'll do girls not to fuck with later.

I like that.

So that'll be a future Mount Rushmore.

Beautiful.

Girl with a smashed, absolutely smashed iPhone.

Yes.

Don't fuck her.

When I see a girl with a smashed iPhone, I'm like, who?

Yeah.

Yeah. Woman with a minivan.
Yeah. Girls at brunch.
Just girls at brunch. Just girls.
Just girls in general. Don't fuck with women.
All right. We have first pick.
So it's going to go PFT and myself, Billy and Jake, then Hank and Max. Our first pick, I'll let PFT say it.
This is the easiest 1-1 in history. I think we all thought this when the topic got sent out.
Guy with cauliflower ear. Done.
Yeah. You see cauliflower ear, you turn around.
It's an absolute red blinking sign that says, do not fuck with this guy because you know he's been in some shit. That dude in the Oklahoma bathroom would have done well to take note of that.
Yeah. It's the universal just do not fuck with this person.
Okay. Billy and Jake.
Are you good with the tutu? God. God.
Good pick. God is a guy? God is a guy, I guess.
Doesn't matter. Don't take the chance.
Wait, which God?

Are we talking Old Testament or New Testament?

We're talking... Muslim?

Anyone, yeah.

Okay.

Just a big man.

Whoever it is.

Whatever you want.

Just don't fuck with him.

I think you have to pick a specific God.

No, no.

Because what if someone else wants to do a different God?

No, no.

The whole pantheon.

Muhammad.

That's multiple guys.

Yeah, no.

We're taking all of them. Okay.
That is multiple guys. multiple guys all right we're gonna go with a guy holding a gun oh yeah that's good that's pretty pretty apparent smart so if a guy's hold that if they're if they have a gun on them you don't if they're holding it don't fuck with them okay like if a police officer is holding a gun in his hand you're not gonna go up and pants them gun guy well yeah i would hope you don't yeah that's what fucking with is right would you fuck with the police officer not holding i wouldn't go like na na na na na oh i would fuck with english police english police without guns yeah i think if it's in the holster it's a little bit different but if they're holding they're holding in their hand but hey what if the guy with gun was about to shoot Max? Would you not fuck with him and try to take him out? Well, you could say that about any single one of these.
Would you not do the same with someone with cauliflower ear? Definitely not. I'd let you die.
Yeah, for sure. But gun, no? No, yeah, gun, I'd take him out.
Okay, good pick. Then we're going to go with a crazy homeless guy oh okay yeah don't fuck with them don't fuck with them don't engage if they're you know it's you just don't fuck with them you don't go near them you don't try and talk to them you never know what they're gonna do stories come out all the time they'll bite you they'll who knows who knows what will happen Don't fuck with the crazy homeless guys I like to give homeless people money But yeah that's fine That's just the kindness of my heart There's a difference between homeless and crazy homeless That is being generous That's not fucking with them Would you go up to them and give them a dollar bill And pull it away from like you're saying you're like you keep bringing up these references as if no i know the context is fucking with that crazy crazy homeless guy is different than homeless guy asking yeah but it's also like i'm not homeless people yeah like in the i fuck with him way yeah buy him a meal but it's guys not to fuck with it's not guys to fuck with it's guys you're also to fuck with billy's right you're forgetting that the crazy part is everything and you're forgetting the not to fuck with.
It's not guys to fuck with. It's guys not to fuck with.
Billy's right. You're forgetting the crazy part is everything.
And you're forgetting the not to fuck with part of the entire Mount Rushmore, which is somewhat important. We're trying to bend the rules.
It's fine. No, we're not.
We're having debate. It's called podcasting.
If we list off all of our picks, just list them all off and just keep moving, that would be so boring. It'd be electric.
This is the whole point of Mount Rushmore season to have discussion around it. Okay.
From the guys that brought you God, what do we got? The devil. All right, we're going to go with Bill Belichick after you fumble.
Oh, okay. Good pick.
Get in the doghouse. That is a good pick.
Career's over. I think PFT, we should go with our two here.
I like two. That's easy.
This one, I'm shocked it got all the way back to us. What do you think I'm going to say? I know.
I'm not going to say it, but I know what this is. No.
I guarantee you don't know. Max doesn't know.
You do not know. He doesn't.
You're right. Okay.
The IT guy. Don't fuck with him.
Do not fuck with him. What was that? The IT guy.
Guy who does the computers in your office.

That's the last person you want to fuck with.

He knows every bit of information about you.

He can watch you as you surf the net.

He can get your financial information.

He does everything.

You don't want to be on the wrong side of the IT guy.

He can plant evidence.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good pick.

Okay.

That's a great pick by us.

Yes.

So for a third big Cat, I like nine. I like 10.
Yeah, I think 10 is pretty solid. Nine or 10, either way.
You go. Surprise me.
Keep it interesting between us. A guy wearing black Air Force Ones.
Yes. Good pick.
Black Air Force Ones. Again, on site.
I literally just texted Max. On site.
Well, thank you for complimenting our pick. Yes.
No, it's a good pick. air force ones again i literally just texted max on site yeah well thank you for complimenting our pick yes no it's a good pick what did you think i was gonna say i won't don't say i know what he thinks you were gonna say okay okay and it might be on our list okay oh i yeah i know what you think okay i do i now know uh okay.
I do. Go ahead, Billy and Jake.

Just a warning.

Billy's not giving me an answer, I think, so I think he's going rogue here.

Okay, let's go.

Do it, Billy.

Billy, rogue time.

Billy, it's going to be tough when you have to do this stream, and you're not even like

you're going to have to come to Chicago to do this stream.

Yeah, I know.

You're scared of Chicago.

I'm going to miss my flight.

Yeah.

Okay.

Are you going to take the entire city of Chicago, Billy? No, I'm kidding. Chicago's overrated crime-wise.
Yeah. There actually was a funny TikTok of, it was MLB teams standings if you did it based on murder rate.
And the Cubs, I think, were fourth in the NL Central. And everyone on Twitter was like, how is this possible? This is bullshit.
Midwesterners just have such a low tolerance for crime. I don't think that's what it is.
That's exactly what it is. That's why it gets hyped up.
We don't have to get into it deeply. People just don't realize how many people live in Chicago.
So we're going to go with Albanians. Okay.
Alright, good. Do not fuck with Albanians.
They're like. You're saying don't fuck with.
No, not. We have to bleep that out.
No. I'll be like they took over the hitman jobs for the mafia.
Okay. Now we're getting very racist.
That's what I'm saying. A whole country of people.
Don't fuck with them. They'll even tell you that.
Yeah. They're not all hitmen.
Sometimes they just raise the price of cancer drugs.

Don't fuck with Albanians.

Okay.

Skreli's Albanian?

Oh, big time Albanian.

Yeah.

Huge Albie.

He doesn't give up those vibes.

Huge Albie. All right.

We're going to go with guys who have the higher ground.

Okay.

Good answer.

Good answer.

That's a good-

Sports stadium.

Yeah.

Anakin Skywalker.

That's in the art of war. Sun Tzu.
Yeah. Don't fuck with him Yeah Agreed And then I'm running point I'm gonna kick it to Max In the corner Let's go Max In the corner Like a child No He's like PJ Tucker He's wet from the corner Are we Did you see my last text I did You're just letting me run with it? Run it.
All right, Cali Teens. Oh, those are guys? Yeah.
Those are teenagers. Correct.
This is what you were thinking. Those are guys? Those are teenagers.
Yes. Are we doing teenagers not to fuck with? Kids not to fuck with? Now you're going to get to people who think...
What, they're just not guys? You're going to get to think you're big. What is this distinction that you're doing? You're not a guy until you're 18.
That's not true at all. This was a weird pander pick because it was just basically designed to keep the pick away from Big Cat.
I'm looking at our list. It's too bad.
I don't even think that we're going to take that. You should just pick what you think, not what someone else thinks.
No, he's trying to get Big Cat votes to make people think that you picked that. It's a little rent-free situation.
It's kind of bullshit. That's true.
You don't want to fuck with California teenagers. Why? Why, Max? Yeah, why? Because they're scary.
They're way cooler than you. They'll smash you in the head with your skateboard.
They'll fucking steal your wallet. They're all twigs.
I think that Cali teens have actually gotten less intimidating since we've started doing this podcast. No.
Yeah. No.
Now they'll TikTok in your face. They can get legal weed.
Yeah. They can get legal weed.
That's true. You can do that pretty much anywhere.
Great pick, Max. But before they...
Okay. All right.
Billy took his... I'm going to take mine here.
The Undertaker. It's not real, Jake.
What do you mean? Oh, it is real. But if you if he rolls his eyes back and does the slash thing, that's the scariest thing of all time.
It is real. But yeah.
Okay. It's never happened.
Billy is so mad at Jake. In real life.
This is great. So mad.
This is real life. Would be great to see Billy and Jake in 24 hours.
Billy is so. No, it doesn't.
Like genuinely upset. Mm-hmm.
Very upset. Jake, The Undertaker's not a real person.
Okay. PFT.
I think this is our draft to win if we just go with the right pick here. Okay.
So I like six. I like seven.
I think we go six. You want to go six? Yeah.
and I like I like six. I like seven.
I think we go six. You want to go six? Yeah.
And I like six and seven. So if you like six, we'll do six.
Yeah, I think that's a good round out. Okay.
We're going to go with anyone named Kyle. Don't fuck with them.
Kyle's are fucking crazy. That's the last pick? Yeah, that's the last pick.
Billy, you can try to do this, but you're not good at this. Dude, no.
Anyone named Kyle. Kyle? Yeah.
Kyle's are fucking crazy. That's the last pick? Yeah, that's the last pick.
Billy, you can try to do this, but you're not good at this. Dude, no.
Anyone named Kyle? Yeah. Kyle's are fucking crazy.
Dude, Kyle's low T and lives in his mom's basement. That's wrong.
Kyle drinks fucking monster energy and jumps off random shit. Kyle Shanahan? No, dude, Kyle.
Yeah, don't fuck with Kyle Shanahan. Don't fuck with Kyle Shanahan.
Kyle doesn't leave his house because he's like... No, Kyle leaves his house all the time.

He's in other people's basements.

You're describing a guy who has nothing to lose.

Monster Kyle drinks that because he can't get up in the morning because he's lazy.

That's how he gets the baseline.

You're drinking Monster.

A guy who lives with his mom has nothing to lose.

Zero to lose.

I have a friend named Kyle who is the easiest guy to fuck with. guy that kisses you no it's not oh no that's another one oh okay it's a different kyle it's a different it's a different guy dude kyle's got the sickest sound system in his car mm-hmm kyle's are just white durango they're fucking your parents tell you not to hang out with kyle's you don't want to because he gets you in trouble imagine that in trouble.
Imagine that your daughter comes home from school. Dad, I finally get asked to prom.
Oh, who's taking you? It's Kyle. Oh, my God.
No, no, no. Because Kyle can't defend her in case of a problem.
Nine months later, you're going to have to name a Kyle that's scary. Yeah.
Kyle's are scary. Rittenhouse.
Yeah. Boom.
Done. Did you scare him? Bauer.
Cauliflower here. Yeah.
Hank, you just said a guy carrying a gun. We took a guy with a gun.
Who likes to carry guns. Okay.
Fair count point. Okay.
Honorable mentions. Chris Kyle.
I literally had a whole list of badass Francis Ngannou, Brock Lesnar, Kimbo Slice, Vladimir

Flickio.

Who is that?

Who is that?

Brock Lesnar?

Brock Lesnar.

Yeah.

Okay.

And, and Jake chose The Undertaker.

Well, I mean, you could pick like specific guys.

Yeah.

I mean, The Undertaker, if you're choosing between.

Nate Diaz is probably the, like, he actually just choked a guy out.

Like, he has good people that actually thought that was Logan Paul to this day which is insane honorable mentions I had dad with multiple kids under 5 I just know that if you see a dad with multiple kids under 5 don't fuck with him that was the one we should have taken I should have kicked the ball to max uh anyone anyone that has personal security oh so like because because people because those security guards don't give a fuck that's true like if you go up to that person whoever it is that security guard will kill you and they don't care if it's like a team thing or they're at a sporting event like maybe they're just like punching the clock doing their job but if they're like a personal security guard they'll fuck you up yeah that was good

we had one that was kind of similar to the IT guy

but anyone involved with anonymous

Chechens don't fuck with them

you just

list off all the countries

no they're badasses

dude

it's like they're badasses neck tattoos

face tattoos

there's a lot of people who get those tattoos that look tough

but aren't actually tough we just had Wu-Tang Clan

Thank you. dude um it's not it's like they're badasses neck tattoos face tattoos yeah there's a lot of people who get those tattoos to look tough but aren't actually tough we just had wu-tang clan nothing to fuck with before coffee yeah me before coffee steve smith senior was our only guy like singular guy like that any others that were missed i had the carl everett okay Okay.
Why? He beat the fuck out of a catcher in the minor leagues. Right? Are you thinking of Milton Bradley? I thought of Carl Everett.
Bradley was a bad dude. I thought it was Carl Everett.
There's a of a minor leaguer Like turning around and just smashing

The catcher in the face

That's not Carl Everett

No

Sorry Carl Everett

Along those same lines

Rough Ned Odor

Nolan Ryan

Don't fuck with Nolan Ryan

The Archduke Franz Ferdinand

Lots of stuff happens But that's more Cats Yeah Yeah Don't fuck with cats Good pick Alright yeah Sorry Carl The quiet kid I just looked it up Player kicks catcher Izzy Alcantara Alcantara Izzy Alcantara Is that what you're Thinking of Yeah i guess i don't know why i thought that was carl i'm gonna find what i was thinking of the uh carl ever great guy the the distant cousin of the black air force ones anybody that's wearing tims that are older than three years yes oh guy with no uh shoelaces that's that's you a lot yeah that's you that's Just you trying to be the tough guy. No, no, that was...
But, like, guy with actually no shoelaces. Mm-hmm.
That's you a lot. Yeah, that's you.
That's just you trying to be the tough guy.

No, no, that was...

But, like, guy with actually no shoelaces.

Yeah.

We should definitely do,

because there's somebody that's related to that guy

that Big Cat was talking about,

and I was like, no, that is a guy that you fuck with.

We should do a list of guys that you absolutely do fuck with.

Yeah, we should do that as a list.

We'll do that as Mount Rushmore as well.

Put down the list, Jake. Yeah.
Okay mount rushmore everyone go vote all right good show boys great interview with sean evans um numbers 69 69 that was that was i didn't even try Bill your brains moving at the pace of a Diamondback tortoise. No, no.
I started to wrap up the show, and you moved away to plug in this machine. To do my job and make sure that we can do this.
But how did you not... That was too easy.
I've given up on 69. Okay, great.
I'm all about 21. Also, shout out the guy.
What's his name? David E. David E.
Incredible. Created pardonmyballs.com, which has all the stats from all the numbers.
We're going to do some fun stuff. I talked to him.
I reached out to him. Jeff D.
him jeff d low get your own fucking guy jeff d low swooped in fast did you see that way i saw the tweet dude jeff d low get your own fucking guy this is our guy this is our nerd jeff d low treated man this rules what an awesome website i wish i could do this shit we'll revive movie rankings on that and then make one for the dozen trivia.

It was like,

we basically like found a hot girl at the bar and like,

I'm going to go take a piss.

And we came back and Jeff D.

Lowe's like,

like got her in a corner,

like,

like,

you know,

like two inches from her face being like,

Oh yeah.

Was my friend bothering you?

So that's our guy,

Jeff D.

Lowe.

But pardon my balls.com.

Check it out.

Like I,

he was saying that he can set it up that people will be able to maybe submit their guesses with a time so we can actually check it. And people can start actually keeping track of how they do.
So it's not just, oh, I got it. They can actually do it on a app or something so we will figure that out for the new the new lottery ball uh all right so this dude rocks he's he's created such a like visually entertaining uh product here i was looking at at hank's his spray chart for his guesses that he has hank guessed i think 96 different numbers on his quest to get one ball correctly.
Remember when you said that you had like a system that you were sticking to, and it was just basically guess, guess every number. Well, this just goes to show, you know, my, uh, organizational skills.
Cause at one point I said, I'm going to go one through a hundred. And every day I go one, then two, then three, then four.
I missed 60, 74, 92, and 97. But I was pretty close.
He almost got all of them. He almost guessed every single number.
It's incredible. I could look at Hanks.
I'd make a poster out of Hanks. And just having 1772 times.
Well, when I saw it, I was like, oh, this is going to be funny. All my scores are going to be lit up because I, in my head, picked every number.
I was like, you're a fucking idiot. You couldn't even do that.
I have a question because I don't know if we discussed this yet. I wasn't online that much on Friday.
We're doing stuff down here for Premier Rugby 7s in Austin. I don't know who won Mount Rushmore,

the first one, the first poll.

Oh.

Do you happen to know?

We forgot to say, yes.

PFT pulled over to check the poll.

I'm not joking.

We squeaked one out.

It was actually incredible.

He also retweeted it when he said

he weren't going to retweet.

Wait, Jake, who did?

That's just cheating.

Wait, you did PFT?

Yeah, that's cheating.

I un-retweeted it, Jake, you narc. That should be no win for whoever retweeted it.
I un-retweeted it. Jake, you're a tattletale, Jake.
We tied. It was tied.
Oh, you're a criminal. It was 1 by 2%.
Right when it came out, I saw it and it forced to have it. I hit retweet then I un-retweeted it.
Lock him up. Oh, so it wasn't at the end.
Oh, my God. No, it was not at the end.
It was the second it came out. It's literally the two hosts of a podcast versus two producers and two, you know, third mics.
And you guys still have to go through these lengths to win by 2%. Why does that even make a difference? I retweeted it right when it came out at the very start.
Why did we make it a rule? I don't know. I don't know why he made a rule, but then I remembered that it was a rule, so I retweeted it.
We'll take a self-imposed one-point penalty. So we have one point and you guys have one point.
It was like, thank you. Jake.
Jake, thank you. Jake, you can't fucking go back on it.
You just narked and then be like, no, no. Narking, it's called sticking by the rules.
Okay, but be consistent. Integrity.
Be consistent. Don't nark and then be like, oh, I didn't mean anything.
No, no, no. Integrity.
Right is right. We're going to take a one-point penalty.
So we have one point. Hank and Max have one point.
Jake and Billy have zero points. Jake, would you say that if you guys did that, did you get disqualified? Thank you.
What? I appreciate that. Yes.
What did you say, Hank? No, I just feel like if the situation is reversed, there would be a DQ. But that's fine.
One point is a nice self-imposed? He retweeted it for how long, PFT?

I don't know how long it was up there.

Back to fiction, we said we wouldn't retweet.

I agree, Hank.

The instant that I remembered that I was not supposed to retweet,

I un-retweeted it.

Put him in the box.

How long was he retweeted for, Jake?

It was like 10 minutes.

Hank, you don't think...

I mean, that's an eternity.

That is an eternity.

All right, so what would you like, Hank? What would you like us to do? Expulsion. I think this season's over.
Shut up. Shut up.
PFT, you gotta be better than that. I know.
I do. Okay.
Tell you what. I will...
Thank God you brought it up, PFT, on your own goodwill. Yeah, why the fuck? I fucking didn't know that.
I didn't know that either. It would be this big of a deal.
I unretweeted it. You queued Jake up, Jake.
Thank you. That was very cool.
Jake is a bitch. I'm going to fucking stab him when he's sleeping.
He got crushed, but we lost by the... He's the law.
I'm going to stab you. No, no.
Law and order. Someone's got to keep it.
It was anonymous, though. Her names weren't even on it.
They were stealing turtles. It would be one thing if her names were on it.
Then I'd retweet it. and then it was anonymous though our names weren't even on it stealing turtles it would be one thing if our names were on it then be then i'd retweet it and then it would say pft as one of the names and then that would tell everybody what to vote for our names weren't even on it cry to the rules committee not not not the who's on the rules committee hack shut up hank it's you guys that's who i'm crying right now.
You're just pissed because you suck at golf.

Criminal?

No.

No, no.

We sucked at golf.

It was a team.

I wasn't talking about you guys playing together.

I was just saying, in general, he sucks at golf.

Can I hit this thing?

I got to get out there more.

I got to track myself.

My number is... How about that?

What if I do that?

I'll live track myself.

No.

26 would be my number.

Okay, ready? Mine's 21. One.
No, no, be my number. Okay, ready? Minus 21.

No, no, no. Did Hank and them say?

Yeah, yeah.

60. Hank, what'd you say?

60. 10.

He's never gotten it.

Is that true?

Yeah, people are telling me that now.

So, thanks. Okay, about to hit it.

Is everyone good?

Yeah. Alright, I'm hitting it one two three i would love to see billy pull up to the person who's behind the table

56 oh i feel like that's been hit a lot

56

Oh yeah that just hit

Uh three shows ago

56

Yeah that's 56 the most

We did it with Max Homa

It was during the Max Homa drawing

Orcas are actually dolphins

Killer whales are dolphins.

Call me out of this. I'm coming from your lover, girl.
Take on me.

Take me on.

I need you on.

After all, take me.

I need less to say.

I want to set hands.

But please don't let it away.

Learn and learn if life is okay.

Say after me. It's better to be safe than sorry.
It's better to be safe than sorry. It's better to be safe than sorry.
Thank you. I'm going to be here.
Take me up, I'll be gone