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We have Celtic Sixers game seven.

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Speaker 1 welcome to Pardon My Take. Today is Friday, May.
What is the date?

Speaker 1 12th. May 12th.

Speaker 1 And we have Sixers, Celtics, game seven. What we wanted all along, PFT, has transpired.
Maximum pain for one of these two gentlemen.

Speaker 2 I like what you did there.

Speaker 1 Hank is

Speaker 1 on another level, but we should.

Speaker 1 You know what? Fuck it, Hank. Go ahead.
Say whatever you want to say. Jason Tatum was insane at the end.
Terrible game for three quarters. Looked so lost.

Speaker 1 And then his dog came out, and he started whapping threes. And the Celtics take the game in Philadelphia.
And now we get

Speaker 1 game seven, soul patch on the line. It's going to be incredible.

Speaker 2 Kind of ironic. I guess it fits that right when his dog came out, that's when it hurts Max the most.

Speaker 2 But we saw it. We saw it happen.
I mean, Marcus Smart, all-time dog guy, for sure. You knew that this was going to be a Marcus Smart game from the start, but Tatum stunk out loud for three quarters.

Speaker 2 He was one for 13 in the first three quarters. Hank, don't do the not really stunk out loud body language at me.
Jason Tatum sucked for three quarters.

Speaker 1 Offensively, he was one for six.

Speaker 1 He's over six to three.

Speaker 1 PFT, you got to understand, and we'll let Hank talk in a second here. He is

Speaker 1 the definition of frontrunner Hank. He was a baby on Tuesday night.
Didn't speak for the entire stream tonight. He's floating and

Speaker 1 rubbing it in everyone's face. So we will let him speak.
But yeah, Tatum was bad for the first three quarters. He couldn't hit anything.
He was missing layups. He was missing everything.

Speaker 1 But what I've said all playoffs about Tatum, if you're a top five guy, and actually he said it after the game, humbly, I'm one of the best players in the world.

Speaker 1 If you're that guy, you have to be able to take your team out of the depths of hell in those moments. And that's exactly what he did.

Speaker 1 And I actually like, as bad as the first three quarters were, what he did in the fourth quarter, that's what counts. That's what counts.
Yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 No, I agree with you. I'm saying he stunked in the first three quarters, but obviously his fourth quarter and the big threes that he hit, it was like one after another, after another.

Speaker 2 Buried the Sixers every time it felt like the Sixers might be able to, you know, bring it close, bring within five or six points, make it a game.

Speaker 2 I just don't like, I don't like what Hank's doing right now. Let's not whitewash what Hank did on last part of my takeover.
It wasn't just the fact that he was silent. It was also the fact that

Speaker 2 you wanted to make everybody else silent. You took your headphones off and then you had diarrhea four times.
Yeah, faked it.

Speaker 1 Faked a stomach ailment.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Regardless if it was fake or if it was real,

Speaker 2 your butt caused a scene. It caused a scene for the listeners.
So before you comment on this, I'd like you to apologize for your butt last show.

Speaker 5 I apologize. I had some stomach issues.
Hand up. That's me.

Speaker 5 As far as the other comments, I would just say, like, you know, shocker that I was upset after we lost, and I'm happy after we win. I guess that's, you know, I guess that's called front running.

Speaker 5 I don't really understand that.

Speaker 1 No, no, the issue is we do do a show, we do streams, and we do a podcast where you have to vocalize your pain, you have to vocalize what's going on.

Speaker 1 So to go silent, it's not the best for the audience. But listen, you won the game.
You get to gloat. You get to rub it in.
Max is as miserable as I've seen him since the Eagles lost the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 He's slamming doors. He's screaming.
He is as sad as sad could be. So this is your moment, Hank, because this is what we wanted all along, PFT.

Speaker 1 We wanted it to flip-flop back and forth between maximum happiness, which you're seeing on Hank's face right now, and pain, which you're seeing on Max's face.

Speaker 1 And it's gone back and forth all series long. We get game seven.
One of these guys is going to be beyond devastated. So Hank, it's your moment.

Speaker 5 Yeah, listen, that felt like a game we were going to lose. I was nervous.
I guess, you know, again, I don't watch games. I guess I'm a little bit pessimistic.
I get nervous when I get nervous.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't know if you're pessimistic because you didn't speak.

Speaker 5 That's just not true. We can check the tapes.
Big hat's being a sour post.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not. I'm just fun.

Speaker 5 But it felt like a game that with Tatum, the way Tatum was playing, they had the most turnovers they've had in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 It felt like the game was slipping away, the series was slipping away, potentially the team was slipping away. And to pull that game out,

Speaker 5 everyone was talking shit about Tatum for him to have that third quarter. You were talking shit about

Speaker 1 Tatum.

Speaker 1 Stone cold and tricks. Oh, no.
Like, oh,

Speaker 1 what is me? What was me?

Speaker 6 No one believed in Tatum except for me when you were like the number one guy up there.

Speaker 5 Am I one? I'm one of everyone, right?

Speaker 6 That was not the tone that you were giving it to me.

Speaker 5 I said the word everyone, which I would qualify in that category, correct?

Speaker 2 No, usually you would say everyone, including myself.

Speaker 1 Correct. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Mr. Rephrase.
No, I'm rephrasing.

Speaker 5 Like, this is where you guys are trying to put words in my mouth. I tweeted No, when you say everyone,

Speaker 1 when you say everyone, it does sound like it's like everyone but me.

Speaker 5 I tweeted, Tatum has to do something, all caps, anything. He did.
He came out. He did what he had to do.
And stealing that game in Philly, all the momentums are going our way. And

Speaker 5 I just feel like I feel lucky. I feel good.

Speaker 6 Momentum doesn't matter. That's one thing that I've learned is momentum means nothing.
Because

Speaker 6 going into this series, going into this game, all the momentum was going towards the Sixers. After the Celtics won two, it looked like the Sixers were dead.
Momentum means nothing.

Speaker 6 Game seven is one game. Throw out everything else.
Game seven is everything. Nothing matters what happened in the past.

Speaker 1 Nothing. So, Max,

Speaker 1 question for you, Max.

Speaker 1 Do you think you should have won game three like PFT and I told you? Talk about game three. All I care about is game seven.

Speaker 6 I wish they won tonight.

Speaker 1 That's what I wish they would.

Speaker 2 We told you to win game three.

Speaker 1 We had to win game three.

Speaker 2 Max, do you regret not making tonight a must-win?

Speaker 1 No, because it felt like a must-win.

Speaker 2 Do you know what's a must-win?

Speaker 6 Game seven. Must fucking win.

Speaker 1 Are you sure? Yes. Because every time I've said it, you've been like, I don't know.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and every time I say it's a must-win, they win the fucking game.

Speaker 1 All right, so you're declaring it officially a must-win.

Speaker 6 Game four was a must-win. Game seven's a must-win.

Speaker 1 Max, what did you see? You were up two with four minutes left.

Speaker 1 It felt like this was going to be it because Tatum was bad.

Speaker 6 You say up two with four minutes left.

Speaker 1 Like this,

Speaker 1 like epic collapse. No, no, no.
I'm not saying it like that. I'm saying you're up two, four minutes left.
Tatum has not been able to hit a single shot. It did feel like this was the game.

Speaker 1 The Sixers, like James Harden was atrocious.

Speaker 1 I'm not PFT, I don't want to say this because I think Max might hit someone in this room, but we did say that James Harden towards the end of series, sometimes, you know, his abilities start to decrease.

Speaker 1 That happens.

Speaker 2 It's a fact based on reality, based on what's happening.

Speaker 1 See what happens in game seven.

Speaker 2 Now, I'm going to stand up for James Harden a little bit because there were a lot of instances in the fourth quarter and the third quarter where James Harden was doing exactly what he should have been doing, which was driving directly at the basket, making the defense commit, and then making the right pass out to the wing.

Speaker 2 And they missed a lot of open three-pointers. That should have been easy assists for James Harden.
He was making the right calls in those situations.

Speaker 2 He did some other bad stuff. I agree.
But the rest of his team let him down too. I'm going to stand up for James Harden.

Speaker 2 Now, that's not saying that I'm anticipating, like, if you have James Harden and Doc Rivers with their powers combined in a game seven, that doesn't look very good for the 76ers on paper.

Speaker 2 But he did some good things in the second half tonight that probably we'd be singing a different tune if his teammates had made a couple more shots.

Speaker 1 Yes, his teammates missed shots. I also do,

Speaker 1 I'll go the other way with James Harden.

Speaker 1 What happens sometimes when his game isn't looking great is he just runs into the middle of the lane and looks for contact instead of trying to score the basketball.

Speaker 1 That happened a few different times. Also, at the end of the game, just give the ball to him, bead.
Like, he is your MVP. He was incredible defensively tonight.

Speaker 1 He had flashes where he was scoring at will. Like, don't trust, like, a lot of the Sixers guys, they didn't want the ball.
And I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 1 maybe that's like a team thing, but like, they're not, you know what I mean? They didn't really want the ball. You don't think they wanted the ball? No.
No.

Speaker 1 The way they shot, like, how tense they looked, I think that's a part of the game where it's like, you got to get him beat the touches every single time down the court.

Speaker 2 They tried to force it to and beat a few times, and the defense was definitely doing things.

Speaker 2 Credit to Missoula for making some adjustments because they were trying to deny him the ball a lot down the stretch.

Speaker 1 You got to hit open shots.

Speaker 5 I would also say shout out, you know, in games like this, when your stars aren't playing as good as they can be in the first three quarters, the bench stepped up. Brogdon had a huge game.

Speaker 5 Smart had a huge game. White played well.
Those are the contributions.

Speaker 1 Stop hitting the table. It's making noise.
He's going to say it. It is.

Speaker 1 It's making noise. People are going to be mad on the podcast.

Speaker 1 He yelled at someone else yesterday for doing that.

Speaker 6 It was also him.

Speaker 1 Oh, it was also him.

Speaker 5 I'm looking out for the listeners. No, bench played well.

Speaker 1 I'm looking out for the listeners. They're going to be pissed

Speaker 1 when it's just constant bang on the table.

Speaker 5 Go, Hank. Bench played well.
Stop.

Speaker 1 Don't get mad because I'm trying.

Speaker 1 You're the executive producer. You know that listeners are going to be upset if there's constant bang on the table

Speaker 1 We got a lot of tension in this room PS well you're you're you're like you you hate me for some I don't hate you. I just

Speaker 1 don't I did I said don't bang the table but you said

Speaker 1 I love that I love that big cat

Speaker 2 every everything in his power just to get under both Hank and Max's skin

Speaker 1 and then and then and then acting surprised when they

Speaker 1 am you don't even know I am doing that but that

Speaker 1 one moment was not I was was not trying to get under his skin whatsoever. He was banging the table.
He did it twice, and I told him to stop. And I was like, stop doing it again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wasn't trying to get under his skin.

Speaker 6 You should talk about the banging of the table.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Don't bring it up at all.
Don't bring it up. Don't tweet at it all.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because if you think I'm going to be worried about that, you're crazy.

Speaker 1 Hank, go ahead, talk about the bench without being on the table.

Speaker 5 The bench stepped up. They picked up

Speaker 1 Jason.

Speaker 5 Jalen Brown, they didn't get off to the hottest start. Brogdon

Speaker 5 picked it up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Brogdon was very good. He was hitting some early threes.

Speaker 5 And they kept them in the game so that in the fourth quarter, the stars could shine.

Speaker 1 And it was crazy.

Speaker 5 And Robert Williams, goat. The coaching decision to start him, I don't know what they were thinking, why they waited so late to do that.
I think he was plus 18. Unbelievable performance.

Speaker 1 They showed that stat, too, where the Celtics with Robert Williams in the starting lineup, like that. specific five was like it was something ridiculous 35 and 12.

Speaker 1 yeah so why did it take so long I don't know.

Speaker 5 I think it was,

Speaker 5 I don't know, because he was hurt at the end of the year. So, maybe they, I don't know.
I really don't know.

Speaker 2 But he's so much fun to watch. Yeah, I can see.
Anywho, his teammates play like things might break a little bit differently when he's on the court just because he sets a tone.

Speaker 2 And if I get amped up watching a guy play from my couch, his teammates are probably like, fuck yeah, he's in the game. Let's go.

Speaker 5 And it's like, imagine if he, you know, if you're looking at his stats, like he was on NBA Live or something, his offense is like 20%.

Speaker 5 Imagine if he could have

Speaker 5 any semblance of an offensive game besides dunks, he would be MVP.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is pretty much just dunks, but the dunks were there. Like,

Speaker 1 they were lobbing it to him.

Speaker 1 He was all over the place.

Speaker 2 The Marcus Smart play towards the end, I like to think that was intentional. I say that was intentional.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, when he hit a bank shot that looked like a lob.

Speaker 2 No, I'm talking about a different one where he drove to the basket and then he threw up an awkward shot that went right into Marcus Williams' hands for an awesome dunk.

Speaker 2 I think that was actually an outleoop. I think he was trying to do that.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 1 confidence going into game seven.

Speaker 1 High.

Speaker 5 Couldn't be higher? Could not be higher.

Speaker 5 Like I said, I just feel lucky. I feel like things are confident.

Speaker 1 Things are turning.

Speaker 5 Things are turning my way. I just feel like it's, you know, it's been a good night.
It's going to be a good weekend. Sunday's going to be great.
I just feel like good things are coming for me.

Speaker 6 Look at the way Hank's fucking sitting right now. He has his feet up at the table.

Speaker 1 It's disrespectful.

Speaker 6 PFD, have you ever seen your knee while you're sitting at that chair?

Speaker 1 Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 I have a hard and fast rule. I observe like Victorian England rules, which is you're not allowed to see anything below.

Speaker 2 Shut the fuck up, Hank.

Speaker 1 See, he's annoying, PFT. Yeah, no.
And you know what? You know what?

Speaker 2 When Big Cat just asked you there, Hank, after all these years doing this show, and Big Cat asked you the question, where's your confidence meter at?

Speaker 2 You have not learned a damn thing from doing part of my take because you're like, all-time high. We got this.
This is Celtics. It's going to be a great weekend.
Celtics, easy in seven.

Speaker 2 You're so high right now. You're so basically in paraphrasing.
Classic.

Speaker 2 But your confidence is at an all-time high right now, which just means that the loss that might be impending on you will just crush you like an ant.

Speaker 5 No, that's the loser mentality

Speaker 5 of a Commanders fan or a Bears fan. Like, that's not how I think.

Speaker 5 An actual city of champions, game seven, best two words. Oh, wait.

Speaker 2 I thought it was hard being a Boston sports fan.

Speaker 5 Do you know what I've had to to go through this week? Do you know what it's like watching a game seven seconds?

Speaker 1 He's had to not talk on two different streams this week. Yeah, this week.
All right, so Max, your confidence going into game seven?

Speaker 6 Anyone's game.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Anyone's game.

Speaker 1 What do you want me to say? Oh, there's your scouting report right there.

Speaker 6 Scouting report, anyone's game. And also, weird game from the NBA tonight.

Speaker 1 Weird game from the game. How so?

Speaker 1 Expound on that.

Speaker 5 Giving Maxie and MB like seven free throws for one play.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 They made four free throws and made two of them. Yes.
Weird. Have you ever seen that before?

Speaker 1 Have you ever seen

Speaker 6 in your life of watching basketball? Have you ever seen

Speaker 6 two free throws made by one player and then taken off the board

Speaker 6 a minute later and be like, eh, you know what? I want you to make those two again.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 6 What the fuck was that?

Speaker 1 He just said to me. What was that?

Speaker 6 The goaltending call in the first half was one of the most egregious things I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 What was that? What did that phantom goal tend? I just

Speaker 6 turned foul is obvious. Every 50-50 call they were getting.

Speaker 6 It was a weird, weird, weird officiated game.

Speaker 6 Let the record show.

Speaker 5 95-88, not 95-86. I'll give you those two points.

Speaker 6 Adam Silver

Speaker 6 post, oh, fuck, what's the stat? Big, help me out.

Speaker 1 Stat hole sent us a stat, and I gave it to Max knowing that he's just like, it's a ticking time bomb for numbers in his head. So I gave him the stat.
I'm not going to help you.

Speaker 1 You got to figure out this stuff.

Speaker 6 It's a lot of numbers.

Speaker 6 Basically, since Adam Silver has taken over the lead.

Speaker 1 See, Hank, I'm being just as mean to Max. I gave him a stat.
I didn't give him any guidance. I just said, here's a chart.
You figure it out. And this is where we're at.

Speaker 6 Since Adam Silver has taken over the league,

Speaker 6 the team,

Speaker 6 the better seeded teams going on the road in game six are twice as likely to win.

Speaker 1 So the better team is more likely to win. I don't know, dude.
I'm not helping you. No, you read it.
You say that right. Read it yourself.

Speaker 6 The wording is weird.

Speaker 5 It's weird.

Speaker 1 Hold on. I'll cut this.

Speaker 1 No, don't cut any of this.

Speaker 2 Hank is on to something here. He had the better teams are favored.

Speaker 6 No. They're better because better teams.
Because before silver, they were half as likely to win. And then after silver, they were twice as likely to win.
If that makes sense. Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 Is it because they changed it from 2-3-2?

Speaker 1 Was that a thing? No.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So. No.

Speaker 1 When you have this specific situation.

Speaker 6 Wait, no, I got the example.

Speaker 1 Okay, go ahead. Go ahead.

Speaker 6 Since Adam Silver took over, teams

Speaker 6 in the Celtics position have won twice as much as before Silver took over.

Speaker 6 So the higher seed on the road in game six are twice as likely to win. Basically trying to force game seven.

Speaker 6 Since Silver has taken over, there's been twice as many game sevens in that situation.

Speaker 1 Happened last year against the Bucs.

Speaker 5 Tatum dominated that game. He didn't dominate this game, but he took over when he had to.
And then game seven was. He sucked.

Speaker 1 He did. He did.
And Max, you know what I'm saying? When he gets to that level where he just starts driving and looking for fouls instead of looking for shots, it's infuriating.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's

Speaker 6 tripping over his feet and then just crying.

Speaker 1 I do a lot of crying as well, but like,

Speaker 6 I'm man enough to admit it.

Speaker 6 You want me to just take my headphones off?

Speaker 1 You want me to take my headphones off?

Speaker 5 Is this a better way to react to that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can. I'm right here, so you can still hear me.
You're right about that.

Speaker 6 Like, I'm just really excited for the next game.

Speaker 1 I really believe in my team. This is how you sounded.

Speaker 1 And I was right.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 It was a good game. Not happy, but it went how it went.

Speaker 1 Now you got to go poop.

Speaker 1 No. Oh.

Speaker 6 Let me hear.

Speaker 2 I wish that there was a way that both Hank and Max could lose game seven. I know.

Speaker 1 That's really what I do. I know.
It's like this series has delivered everything we've wanted. It's just I don't want to see either one of them happy.

Speaker 2 They're both so much better for the show when they're grumpy.

Speaker 1 I know. And it's just flip-flopped so fast.
And man, that game, it also, can we just say, was a terrible game overall. It was like a tournament game.

Speaker 1 It was just like guys missing shots, wide open shots, turnovers left and right.

Speaker 1 It was like watching the NCAA tournament, which I love. But, you know, when people come after the NCAA tournament, that's what what we just watched tonight.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I will go back and say that there was one play that Hardin made that made me want to throw my remote at the television, which was when he took it to the hole, Smart just played defense on him, and Harden pushed off with his forearm like he does.

Speaker 2 Then Hardin falls on his ass and then looks over at the ref and just sits down for like five seconds, crying, begging for a call.

Speaker 2 That made me want to assault James Harden. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, should we talk some other games?

Speaker 1 Lakers, Warriors, game six tonight.

Speaker 1 Warriors in game five.

Speaker 1 I did give out the game of the month on the show, but it's so funny watching the Warriors, and you can basically tell if they're going to win by how fast Draymond sprints back on defense, like off dead balls and stuff.

Speaker 1 That energy he had, he was scoring. He actually had the rare heat check layup where he got his shit stuffed.

Speaker 1 But it was what I expected from the Warriors and the fact that they're a championship team uh you know that knows that like hey 3-1 doesn't mean the series is over they still got a long hill to climb here but that was that was at least a good answer from the defending champs yeah when steph curry is is making shots and just being unbelievable stuff then they're just tough to beat in general like they don't even need as long as clay has a serviceable game if steph's playing like that in the fourth quarter yeah and it's close um then they're they're just always going to be extremely tough to beat in that situation.

Speaker 2 I'm happy that we get to see more of the series.

Speaker 2 Like it's been the opposite of the Six or Celtic series in a lot of ways where I'm excited to watch every single game because every single game has delivered. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the Clay Thompson, like, he's been bad. He's been very bad.
They need him to do something special in game six.

Speaker 1 They need like game six thunder Clay Thompson when he hit 11 threes because he's been very, very bad. And you're basically making like everyone else on the floor have to do that much more.

Speaker 1 I mean, Draymond Green scored 20 points. You can't expect him to score 20 points in game six.
Andrew Wiggins had 25. So

Speaker 1 they need either a combo, they need either Clay or Jordan Poole to just have one of those stretches where they go nuclear and hit like four out of five threes in a quarter or something like that, I think, to win this game.

Speaker 2 As a Nuggets fan, I do not want to play the Lakers.

Speaker 2 I would rather play the Warriors. I think that their game matches up better against them.
The Lakers scare me a little bit on defense. And, I mean, Anthony Davis,

Speaker 2 we said he was the healthiest that he's ever been, maybe in his life, and then he got wheelchaired off the court.

Speaker 2 We probably should have seen one game like that coming, but I think he's going to be playing next game, right?

Speaker 2 They said probable, and he said that he feels great. Might have been a concussion, but I think he's back now.
I think he's back to being healthy again, super healthy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he went off in a wheelchair, which was one of those I like got when the Warriors finally put the Lakers away, because it was actually kind of weird that they weren't able.

Speaker 1 It was like hovering from nine to 13 points for that last six or seven minutes stretch before they got to total garbage time. And you're like, all right, Warriors need to just put them away.

Speaker 1 And they weren't able to fully like put them away where everyone sat. So I, when they finally did that, I got into bed and I was like watching the game on my phone.

Speaker 1 And then I refreshed Twitter and it's like Anthony Davis taken in a wheelchair

Speaker 1 to the locker room for a head injury. And I was like, what the fuck? Is this like a, am I getting, like, is this, is this a joke, a prank? Because it's kind of a joke we'll all always make.

Speaker 1 Like, Anthony Davis gets injured 17 times a game. He actually was taken in a wheelchair, he got hit in the temple, uh, but he seems like he's gonna be okay.

Speaker 2 It might have been a Paul Pierce situation where maybe, maybe there was some doo-doo-buck going on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 But I have a question for you guys:

Speaker 2 does Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors, do they officially erase the 3-1 meme if they come back from 3-1 to beat LeBron? Yes.

Speaker 5 No. I think so.
No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because Warriors fans will always have it. No.

Speaker 1 But it's always report. No.
Only if they win.

Speaker 1 LeBron. Only if they win the 3-inch.

Speaker 2 But it's against LeBron. But it wasn't the title.

Speaker 1 It wasn't the title. It's got to be in the title.
Like, if they win the title, if they overcome and beat the Lakers

Speaker 1 down 3-1, and then they go on to win the title, then it's completely erased.

Speaker 2 You're wrong. It will be erased for the next three days before the next series starts, and then it'll be back on until they win the title.

Speaker 2 It'll be temporarily erased for a little bit, and Golden State Warriors fans will definitely act like it's erased.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but then if they got blown out by the Suns or by the Nuggets in the next round, then at that point, okay, yeah, we can still say that

Speaker 2 the Golden State Warriors Blue 3-1 lead.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Got it.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Nick's Heat.

Speaker 1 Turns out hashtag your boy Greeny was maybe right, PFT.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 the I think the temperature in game four

Speaker 1 in Miami was like 90 degrees. The temperature in game five in New York was like 65 degrees.
Quentin Grimes and Jalen Brunson played 48 minutes.

Speaker 1 They had the ability to go because they didn't have the heat bothering them.

Speaker 1 And that was an all-time Jalen Brunson. Like, this is why he's become so quickly beloved by Knicks fans.
48 minutes, 38 points,

Speaker 1 nine rebounds, seven assists. Like, balls on the line.
This is my city. This is my team.
There's nothing better when that happens.

Speaker 1 When a guy does something like that, and it just makes Mavericks fans even more sick watching that. But credit to the Knicks for not, like, they could roll over and die there, and they didn't.

Speaker 1 And Jalen Brunson was the reason they didn't, because he played his balls off for 48 minutes.

Speaker 2 I'd like Jake to check what the weather is going to be like in Miami for the next game, and that will influence my prediction.

Speaker 2 If it's going to be above 84 degrees outside, then I have the heat winning.

Speaker 4 7 p.m., I'm looking at 87 degrees.

Speaker 1 So the next light

Speaker 1 is easy. Oh, it's just too hot.
All right.

Speaker 4 P.M. showers,

Speaker 4 scatter thunderstorms.

Speaker 1 Also, still too hot.

Speaker 2 Actually, no.

Speaker 4 High of 84, high of 84.

Speaker 1 Shout out Julius Randle for

Speaker 1 remembering that he's actually good at basketball. Like he, he, I think maybe because he made all NBA, I think, second team,

Speaker 1 he just woke up and was like, wait,

Speaker 1 I am a good basketball player. I can do this.
And he came out there. And this wasn't just a complete liability.

Speaker 2 There's so many times when you watch him and you're like, this guy's just not good at battle. How is he? I guess he doesn't look like a good basketball player.
He is a good basketball player.

Speaker 2 But a lot of times, even when he's playing well, you're like, well,

Speaker 2 this guy doesn't really do anything particularly well.

Speaker 1 Right. But it was, I really do think

Speaker 1 he just needed the affirmation just to remind himself, like, oh, yeah, you can play basketball at a pretty high level.

Speaker 1 You are a good player. Go out and be a good player.
And he was. And

Speaker 1 Mitchell Robinson making those free throws. I always root for the big guy who has just the worst free throw

Speaker 1 look. Like,

Speaker 1 his motion is terrible. He misses them all the time.
And they did the hack of Mitchell Robinson towards the end where it was Jimmy Butler wasn't even like trying to find.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you saw this clip, but Jimmy Butler was just smacking him in the butt. It's like over and over.
Heine Eagle made a pre-check reference.

Speaker 1 He was just smacking him in the butt over and over until the ref would call a foul.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, but yeah, he made his free throws.
I always, like, there's something nice about a big guy. I'm sure he'll miss another big one, like, when it, when it matters again.

Speaker 1 But for one night, he made his free throws.

Speaker 2 You can always tell how bad somebody is at free throws by how hard they celebrate after making free throws. Yeah.
Right. So like a big dude like that, he acts like he just hit the game-winning shot.

Speaker 2 If he goes two for two at the line, and the crowd gets really into it, that's always a good moment, too. Yes.

Speaker 1 Hank, any other thoughts on any of the series?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Okay. Just focused.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's all about Sunday.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
All right.

Speaker 1 I'm going to make...

Speaker 5 I thought the people were freaking out about the eight seconds in the back court at the end of that heat game. That was nonsense.
I was freaking out.

Speaker 5 That was a

Speaker 5 screen grab fest, though.

Speaker 4 It was. Yeah, but people were saying it has to go to 15, which I didn't see anything official, so I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's one of those like right on the border where it's not.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I got a lot of don't know ball.

Speaker 1 Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Jake, what does a Jake freak out look like?

Speaker 1 What the heck? Oh, wow. Yikes.

Speaker 4 No, I was worse.

Speaker 1 Sorry for everyone who had to listen to that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I apologize.

Speaker 5 I'm talking around Max too much.

Speaker 2 So Scott Foster wasn't on any of the games tonight, which means he'll be calling one of the game sixes tomorrow.

Speaker 1 So they're thinking it's going to be pushed.

Speaker 1 Max,

Speaker 1 do you have the sheet? You want to tell us which games are going to go to game seven?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yeah, I was going to say,

Speaker 2 I can't do that again.

Speaker 2 That stat could also just be a Scott Foster-specific stat because Scott Foster has worked so many games under Adam Silver in Game Sixes because he is the NBA's hatchet man that he forces those games individually into game sevens.

Speaker 4 Yes, I feel like he's more likely to do the Warriors-Lakers, right?

Speaker 1 Well, it depends on where he's been. I don't know if they'll fly him across square.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but like the league would benefit more if that's it.

Speaker 1 Of course, definitely.

Speaker 1 They want that very badly.

Speaker 2 We need to track Scott Foster's jet. We need to figure out where it's going.
Yeah, tail number.

Speaker 1 I'm going to make the executive decision. We are going to wait until after the Suns Nuggets game.

Speaker 1 I think the Nuggets are going to kill him. They're up 20 right now.
I think we just talk about it right now. 21.
They're up 21.

Speaker 2 Nugs in six.

Speaker 1 We bury the Suns right now.

Speaker 1 It's over.

Speaker 2 Son, you're done. You're Red Dwarfs.
Your time's up. Chris Paul sucks.
Chris Paul blew the series for the Suns by getting injured in game one.

Speaker 2 Good things for the Nuggets. I like it.
As long as the Nuggets don't have to play against the Lakers next round. I love where the Nuggets are at.
We dominated tonight. We won by 17.

Speaker 2 The Nuggets won by 17 points tonight.

Speaker 2 Shut the fuck up, Hank. Another triple double.
Another triple double for Jokic on the night. All the stars stepped up.
Porter's looking good. Murray's looking good.
Gordon's looking good.

Speaker 2 Jeff Green put in a couple baskets in the fourth quarter. It's a complete team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, for the craziness that are these NBA playoffs and everything that's gone on, the Nuggets have looked like the best team. They, you know, first round, they look like the best team.

Speaker 1 This round, they look like the best team. They are, it feels like they're peaking at the right time.
And

Speaker 1 they just kind of get forgotten in the mix, but they are playing very, very good basketball. And what they're doing, again, there's eight minutes left in the second quarter.

Speaker 1 So if you're listening to this and the Sun's won, that will just be the dumbest segment we ever did on Pardon My Take.

Speaker 1 But we believe in the Nuggets, and they know that they're not going to go to a game seven. They're going to come out and take care of business.
And they're up 21. They're going to win by 31.

Speaker 2 Nugs and six. And I think it's time that we had a conversation about Kevin Durant's legacy, big cat.
It's been too long since we've discussed that.

Speaker 2 I think it's been at least 11 months since we've had that conversation.

Speaker 2 Kevin Durant's legacy has taken a hit the last few years. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Maybe an irreparable hit because you would think if he's the best player in the NBA, like some people have said that he is, you think he'd be able to get it done with a team with Devin Booker and some nice role players on the side.

Speaker 2 And Kevin Durant, unless you come on the podcast to discuss this, your legacy right now, I'd say it's almost completely destroyed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd agree. What do you say, Billy?

Speaker 2 Is Kevin Durant still a baby back, bitch?

Speaker 1 I think we're not tired of that because he stopped tweeting from a a burner, which we respected that when he just started going,

Speaker 1 just going after people with his main account.

Speaker 1 But he,

Speaker 1 I'll say this.

Speaker 1 I think the Suns next year might be, you know, a very good team, but it felt whenever you trade for a guy in the middle of the season, Chris Paul, you got to figure out what you're going to do with the point guard because he clearly can't.

Speaker 1 Like, we know Chris Paul's old now. Like, it is what it is.
He's going to get injured in the playoffs. And you have Kevin Durant and Devin Booker for, I think, like three or four years locked up.

Speaker 1 They should, like, it should just be building around just those two guys. Forget DeAndre Ayton.
Forget Chris Paul. Build around those two guys.
Get as many good role players around them.

Speaker 1 And the Suns will still have a title window. Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 Kevin Durant needs to do something.

Speaker 2 I'm just putting on my skip Bayless shoes. Kevin Durant needs to prove to me that he's as good as we've been told that Kevin Durant is by ourselves.

Speaker 1 By ourselves.

Speaker 1 Okay, so congrats to the Nugs. This would really suck if we jinxed this.
Not going to happen. Not going to happen.
Not going to happen.

Speaker 2 This is a must-win for the Nuggets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 You know what? We'll update it after our NFL schedule draft. So we'll update it.
It'll probably be halftime when we finish this, and then we can fully assess.

Speaker 1 Other,

Speaker 1 let's see, other things that we can talk about. Oh, before we talk hockey playoffs, I just want to say a special shout out to Bo Jackson.
He's had hiccups for an entire year.

Speaker 1 I'd kill myself if I had hiccups for more than 15 minutes. So I don't know how he is surviving.

Speaker 2 Listen, I've got a 100% foolproof cure for the hiccups.

Speaker 1 Bo, if you want them, I'll give them to you.

Speaker 2 I will cure your hiccups within 10 minutes. That's a guarantee.
I know how to cure the hiccups. It's a method and it works every time.
Yeah. So reach out to me.

Speaker 2 Maybe give me like a handcrafted bow and arrow that you made or just let me hang out with you for a day. Because chilling with Bo Jackson would be the absolute best.
I will cure Bo Jackson's hiccups.

Speaker 2 His hiccups are so bad that he sniffed a porcupine's butt to try to cure him. Somebody told him, if you just take a big whiff of a porcupine's asshole, your hiccups will go away.

Speaker 2 And he believed them and tried it. Didn't work.
Bo, I smell

Speaker 1 probably

Speaker 2 twice as good as a porcupine's asshole. Just hang out with me and let me fix them for you.

Speaker 1 It also just is a testament to how big of a badass Bo Jackson is because now his broken hip leg injury that you know took took away his NFL career is the second worst injury he's ever had because I would absolutely say if you said, hey, you can break your hip or you can have hiccups for a year, I'd take the broken hip all day, every day, because at least you know, like, this is how I can rehab and I know that there's an end in sight.

Speaker 1 The hiccups, there's no end in sight. And then the other thing is,

Speaker 1 this just means Bo Jackson is incapable of being scared. No one has scared him in an entire year to get rid of these hiccups.

Speaker 2 I was about to bring up that point because that's the cure people tell you about. You just like have somebody jump out behind you, but he's unscarable because he's such a tough guy, right?

Speaker 2 But straight up, like, I don't know, what's the longest you guys have had hiccups for?

Speaker 1 Maybe like drunk, maybe a half hour, an hour, yeah.

Speaker 2 I had hiccups for like close to hour, two hours the other weekend, and my buddy choked me out, and it made it go away.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's why your buddy choked you out. Well, we were wrestling, oh, okay, nice.

Speaker 2 They were doing they were doing jiu-jitsu, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, you guys ever get scared?

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 4 That's how you get rid of the hiccups.

Speaker 1 That's what we were just saying, yeah,

Speaker 1 with Bo Jackson. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I was looking at the NFL schedule. That's okay.

Speaker 1 That's a me move. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was a Billy move. Yeah.
That was Billy Marsh right there. Yep, my bad.

Speaker 2 Seriously, how much do you think Bo would pay to get rid of his hiccups right now?

Speaker 1 Endless amount of money. I'm not exaggerating when I say that if I had hiccups for,

Speaker 1 I think the longest, probably 30 minutes drunk, but like anything over a day or two, and it's just... Shoot me like a horse.
Yeah. Which I probably shouldn't say.

Speaker 1 You know, it's probably too soon after what happened in the Kentucky Derby, but it's true. Like, get the curtain.
Let me lay down. Shoot me dead.
I don't want to have the hiccups anymore in my life.

Speaker 2 We should get Bo on the podcast. Come on the podcast and we will cure your hiccups live on part of my take.
I guarantee it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll scare the fuck out of you.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hockey.
Leafs are still alive. H-words advanced to the conference finals.

Speaker 1 What else we got? Oh, and the Edmonton Knights Series is awesome. That's.
Oh, and Spencer Hawes went to a cracking game. We made him go to a cracking game.
He went to a cracking game.

Speaker 1 They got absolutely shit pumped.

Speaker 1 He was texting.

Speaker 1 He was texting us in the third being like, when can I leave?

Speaker 1 Because they were down like four goals. So

Speaker 1 I'll say this, and hockey fans might not love this. This round of the playoffs haven't been that great.
First round was great. This round of the playoffs have not been that great.

Speaker 2 I watched some of the Leafs game the other night. I did not watch the Kraken game.
I have not watched the H-Words play recently.

Speaker 2 So I could try to talk about it, but all I'm going to say is just that watch out because Biz might be right. Biz might be right about the Leafs.

Speaker 1 Don't let them get hot. Ooh.
Yeah, I'm pretty much just laser focused on the Oilers and how much fun they are to watch.

Speaker 1 And they had a nice answer to the, to the, like, they got their ass kicked in game three. But yeah, I, I don't know, maybe get to the next round because these memes, is that fair to say?

Speaker 1 You're a big hockey fan. This round has not been the best.
It has not been the best. Yeah.
It's just a lot of blowouts. It's okay to admit it because, you know,

Speaker 1 we get to to this time of the year and there's a lot of like, this sport's better than this sport. Let's just be, let's have an honest conversation.

Speaker 1 The NBA playoffs this round have been a lot better than the hockey playoffs this round.

Speaker 2 I saw a stat and I'm going to butcher it, but it was something like this year there's been a record number of games that have reached the score of four to one at some point during the game. Whoa.

Speaker 2 Which makes sense. Like, I feel like every time I look up, it's four to one somebody.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's do some NFL schedule talk.

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Speaker 1 Okay, NFL schedule. It has been released.
It was leaked all day. There was like little crumbs that were given to us.
We started the day with the shocking news, and I'll say it, shocking news.

Speaker 1 The Lions and the Chiefs are kicking off the season. Credit to the Lions.
They have ridden the hype wave to the first game of the season. That will be very fun to watch the lions.

Speaker 1 We always talk about wanting something new, maybe in the college football playoffs, the Lions on the opening kickoff night will be cool to see. Like, the jerseys will be different.

Speaker 1 Jared Koff, like, all of it. I want to see it.
It will be fun.

Speaker 2 Just watching the Lions play at night is going to be a shock. My body.
My body hasn't. I can't remember the last time we've experienced it.

Speaker 2 I guess they've had a couple sprinkled here and there, but like in a big game where everyone's eyes are on them.

Speaker 2 I'm excited about the Lions this year.

Speaker 2 It does feel like they've reached that point where it's like, maybe we should pump the brakes on them just because like being put in the opening game of the entire season feels like a big step up for them.

Speaker 2 Like maybe, maybe, maybe we put them on like the first Monday night game. Maybe we, maybe we ease our way into there.
Now they're a really good roster. They're a good team.

Speaker 2 They've got one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, our personal friend, Jerry Goff. And Dan Campbell is a fucking insane man who's a lot of fun to watch.

Speaker 2 So I understand why the league would do that.

Speaker 2 Plus, with the hard knocks that they built in last year, I get why they would think that they would be a bigger draw, but I still don't think that the Lions are at the point where they should be opening up the NFL season.

Speaker 1 Dumb debate time.

Speaker 1 I think the Lions

Speaker 1 losing in a close game opening night is better than winning.

Speaker 2 It would be very Lions to have like the best loss of the season.

Speaker 1 But okay, but it would be even more Lions to win the opening night against the Chiefs and then like, you know, lose the next four games and have all the, like have an entire week where it's like, they just beat the Chiefs opening night, Super Bowl champs.

Speaker 1 I think if you're a Lions fan deep down, a close loss wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. And then you come back and then you reel off five wins.
You go five and one to start. I agree with you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dumb debate. It's stupid.
Obviously, you want to win the games rather than lose it, but this is a dumb show. We have dumb brains.
A close loss might be the perfect thing for the Lions.

Speaker 2 Because if they won, it means that they pulled out all the tricks and they have no more tricks. Right.

Speaker 1 And it's just like they feel like, oh, shit, all the hype, that's really real. And then that's when you start to get, you know, exposed.

Speaker 2 They're going to do every trick. And he Reid's also going to have a lot of tricks.
There's going to be, I'm going to say, four, over under four and a half gadget plays running this game.

Speaker 2 And I'll take the over on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I just, just Lions, you want like, you basically what you want is to lose at the like buzzer on a field goal and have it be Patrick Mahomes.
And you can be like, you know what?

Speaker 1 We're a really good team. It's just Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 2 I think you're confusing what would be a great result in general as opposed to what would be the Lions' idea of a great result.

Speaker 5 No, I know.

Speaker 2 The Lions' idea, like over the last couple of years, they've led the league in moral victories.

Speaker 2 They had like a New England Patriots' undefeated season's worth of moral victories in the last two years.

Speaker 1 No, I know that obviously they want to win the game. I'm just saying that,

Speaker 1 Hank, you okay? Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 you remember that season, Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that's fine.

Speaker 5 Unnecessary. It happened.

Speaker 1 It happened.

Speaker 2 It's a sports podcast. We talk about sports.

Speaker 1 Again, this is a very dumb thought because I know you want to win the games, but I'm just saying it wouldn't be the work.

Speaker 1 Because if they do beat the Chiefs week one, Thursday night, in front of the whole country, the Lions hype will be out of this world.

Speaker 1 It will be uncontrollable at that point. So just a stupid thought, food for thought.
Something to remind yourself if you, if Lions fans, you do lose that game.

Speaker 2 So when I was watching the scheduled release get trickled out like Chinese water torture all day today, where it's like, okay, well, one game will be released every hour on the hour, pretty much.

Speaker 2 I can't help but think that at some point Roger Goodell is going to do to the schedule release what he's done with the draft and just market the shit out of it and like take it on the road each year and turn it into like an hour-long, two-hour-long prime time event where he just announces like one week's worth at a time.

Speaker 2 He and like a bracket release, essentially. Yeah.
Like he sees what the NCAA does and the ratings they get on that.

Speaker 2 I feel like in the next 10 years, schedule release date is going to be the, he's going to have kids, troops come out on stage, the whole nine yards.

Speaker 2 We're going to have people breaking it down week by week by week when he announces each week. It's going to be like a massive fucking corporate mediaized sensation.
It's going to be insane.

Speaker 2 That's my prediction for the future of the NFL.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at the Lions schedule right now. So they're going to lose to the Chiefs and then they're going to start the season five and one.
So that's it.

Speaker 1 That's the perfect start for the Lions right there.

Speaker 2 Well, every fan out there went through the schedule when it came out. Of course.
And you're not a real fan if you have your team doing any worse than 10-7. Every team is going to be 10-7 or better.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, do we want to do a quick draft through our favorite games?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What should we do? Should we do three rounds? Should we do a three-round draft? Because we have all of us. Max, are you going to participate in this draft?

Speaker 6 Sure, I haven't looked at a single thing in the end.

Speaker 1 Okay, that actually makes it better. Hank, have you looked at a single thing?

Speaker 5 No, I just know opening night is Brady Knight against the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Okay, so PFT, why don't you start and we'll go around the room?

Speaker 6 That's true. I know.
I'm sick of looking at your face while watching sports.

Speaker 1 Max also went on a rant. I heard him at halftime.
He's like, I don't fucking care about the schedule. We know who we're playing.
I don't care when they play. Just fucking, who cares?

Speaker 6 I do think that, like, who cares? You know who you're playing months ago. Why does it matter when you're playing them?

Speaker 1 It's fun to just fantasize. I know.
It's fun. It's fun.
It's fun to fantasize.

Speaker 2 And Max, when you're a loser, this matters a lot.

Speaker 5 This is like, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 That's also true. Yeah, that is.

Speaker 2 But you also expect to win. Yeah.
Dude, I'm itching to pick this first game.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Go ahead, PFT.

Speaker 2 Start. Okay, so

Speaker 2 I get the first one.

Speaker 1 So you get the first pick, and I don't know if you heard Billy, but he just kind of whispered, I'm itching to pick this first game.

Speaker 5 I actually have one. I'm really excited about.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, let's go me, and then you want to go

Speaker 1 you, you, Hank, and then me, and then we'll go around the room.

Speaker 2 Okay, all right, so Billy will be like one of the last ones. He'll be fourth.
Okay, so we'll definitely, somebody will definitely pick his game then.

Speaker 2 For the first overall pick in the 2023 Schedule NFL draft,

Speaker 2 I am going to go

Speaker 2 with the Buffalo Bills at the New York Jets

Speaker 1 on September 11th. What the fuck? Oh, no, wait, was that Billy's? Dude, that's the best.
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 I had no idea that that was going to be Billy's.

Speaker 1 How did you do that, bro?

Speaker 2 I didn't know. Billy, if I knew it was yours, I wouldn't have done it.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Monday night for you. Aaron Rodgers, Monday night.

Speaker 2 I don't care about that game.

Speaker 2 September 11th in New York. Aaron Rodgers, renowned 9-11 truther.
Dude. Going to be Waking Up America.

Speaker 2 He'll probably have a fun message written on his, on like a headband or some weird touchdown celebration, waking people up to the truth.

Speaker 2 And then, of course, Josh Allen pressing all the buttons, going up against a good Jets defense. That's going to be a great game.
Great.

Speaker 2 I really wish that we were staying in New York for that one because I would love to go to that game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great pick. Great pick.
Thanks.

Speaker 2 Thanks.

Speaker 5 That was mine. It was.

Speaker 1 So, what's your first pick? Tom Brady Knight?

Speaker 5 I will go with the Jets versus the Patriots week 18,

Speaker 5 probably taking Rodgers out of the playoffs. And, you know, what's going to be a long and frustrating season of disappointment for Jets fans.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Dude, we're going to know by then because it's either, because I don't think the Patriots are going to be in playoff contention but they might be able just like to tank our season by beating us but also like if we can't go you can't go oh right that's why it's my number one no but that's you just you don't want if they can't go you can't go right right but I don't think they're gonna have any playoff chances right but that's what's already happening you just like envisioned a world where you're not going I know but like we could be borderline it really just depends on that first game that's why I'm way more excited about the first game no no no no that's PFT's game, so you can't talk about that game.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, you know what? We'll just do a snake draft.
We'll do two picks each because this is the most boring thing ever.

Speaker 1 We're going to put France.

Speaker 1 It's because they're picking games you don't care about. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll go.

Speaker 1 My first pick, I will go.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Where'd it go? Oh, here we go. Bills at Bengals, DeMar Hamlin, week nine, Sunday night football.
The game that

Speaker 1 we debated for a week and a half who was going to win that game. That will be a very highly anticipated game.
Week nine, both teams should be very good. What?

Speaker 2 Oh, he's got an intrusive thought.

Speaker 1 What was your intrusive thought?

Speaker 2 You know how Hank and Max would both lose Sunday?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 If they couldn't finish the game and couldn't play it?

Speaker 1 Oh. Oh, so you're wishing

Speaker 2 someone to die.

Speaker 1 That was an intrusive thought. It was.
I said it. No, it was an intrusive thought.
It doesn't count.

Speaker 2 He's

Speaker 2 an intrusive thought. That's what Billy is.

Speaker 1 That's a brainworm.

Speaker 2 I was like, Billy is the intrusive thought of this podcast.

Speaker 1 Yes, he really is. All right.
So that's my pick. Go ahead, Billy.

Speaker 2 I'm going Black Friday,

Speaker 2 Jets, Dolphins.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 It's going to be good.

Speaker 1 I actually, I guess.

Speaker 4 It's going to be force-fed football.

Speaker 6 You're going to watch.

Speaker 2 It's good that football is on TV, but I don't know if that game, I wouldn't take that.

Speaker 1 No, that's going to be a crucial game. It's also...
Add value.

Speaker 1 very much into the NFL just taking over every holiday. Black Friday is college football.

Speaker 1 That's stupid. That's Nebraska, Iowa.
Like, that's, I don't know what they didn't have to do that day. We had football on TV that day.
We didn't need that day.

Speaker 1 I'm down for, you know, the Christmas Eve, the New Year's Eve, the Christmas Day, all these other things. But we had football on that day already.
That was already a designated football day.

Speaker 1 They should have done it like on the Tuesday after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but you're going to love it when it's on.

Speaker 1 No, of course, but I am going to watch college football too. Okay, Jake, your first pick.

Speaker 1 So, this is wild. What? That we're doing.
Yeah, no, it's really dumb. It's terrible.
We're only doing two rounds.

Speaker 6 Yeah. We should do one round.

Speaker 1 We should do everyone gets one game.

Speaker 1 So this year,

Speaker 4 New Year's Eve is on a Sunday.

Speaker 4 We get an entire slate on New Year's Eve.

Speaker 1 This is making it worse, Jake. I'm just setting this thing.
I'm so excited you are about this draft.

Speaker 4 Yes, because I'm taking Bengals at Chiefs 425 New Year's Eve. You watch the game, then you do your New Year's Eve plans.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Also, I'm sorry for earlier.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 He said the heck.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, no, no. No, when he, when he the Bo Jackson, when I was looking at movies, Billy Marks, favorite games, yeah, yeah, I really feel awful.
You feel awful? Yeah, no tap. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 Did you forget me then? Max, yeah.

Speaker 6 I still don't know what Jake's talking about.

Speaker 1 I feel high right now.

Speaker 1 I'm getting weird thoughts.

Speaker 1 I feel great.

Speaker 1 Good vibes are in the part right now.

Speaker 5 Good vibes are in the apartment.

Speaker 1 This is what makes true AWLs listening to this and being like, wait, what? What are they doing? Billy Witzwan.

Speaker 1 By the way, the Nuggets are now up 32, so great call by us.

Speaker 1 Great call.

Speaker 6 I would say Super Bowl rematch, Monday Night Football. Chiefs, Eagles,

Speaker 6 November 20th, but I'm sick of everyone on the Niners saying that they would have beat us if they had a quarterback. So it's at home December 3rd, 425 against the Niners.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right, and that concludes our draft.
Willie,

Speaker 1 I got one more. You just say a game you're looking forward to, but that concludes our draft.

Speaker 2 Week five, Chicago at Washington. Yeah,

Speaker 1 rematch. I'm going to have to go to that.

Speaker 4 Also, there's a Teacock exclusive game this year.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, when is that? It's, I think, Chargers Bills.

Speaker 4 I think December.

Speaker 5 Pats are going to Germany. That's the other one of note for the Pats.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 The Tyreek Hill Revenge game is in Germany as well.

Speaker 1 Ooh, okay.

Speaker 2 It's Pat's Colts in Germany.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I feel like Belichick will have them on some type of history tour. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That'll be fun. Yeah.
By the way, shout out to Titans social media. That was by far the best video.

Speaker 1 They interviewed... drunk people on Broadway in Nashville and had them like guess the logos of the teams and it was just perfectly perfectly done.

Speaker 1 Because it's, you know, it's hard to one-up every year all these schedule releases because it's been a trendy thing for the team social media accounts, but the Titans nailed it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the people on Broadway, one person guessed the Chargers logo as being Lightning McQueen, yeah, as being that team. There were two bachelorette parties that guessed the

Speaker 2 Indianapolis Colts logo as being the Dallas Cowboys. That was awesome.

Speaker 1 And they, they, like, confidently were like, Cowboys, nailed it. It's the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 And then the Texan, the Texan Texans was another good one.

Speaker 1 And the Atlanta, Florida Dolphins. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Shout out to the Jaguar social media team, too. They did the head script writer for the Jacksonville Jaguars narrated theirs.
Oh, I thought that was good.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 1 This has been the dumbest

Speaker 1 15 minutes. Confidently can say the dumbest 15 minutes in this show, at least in the last year.

Speaker 1 We have the rest of the show. We have Kenny Smith.
We have Firefest.

Speaker 1 And we were correct. The Denver Nuggets are up 30 on the Suns going into halftime.
So, great show. And let's kick it to ourselves with Kenny Smith.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest. guest.
It is the man, the myth, the legend, Kenny the Jet Smith.

Speaker 1 He has a book out called Talk of Champions, Stories of the People Who Made Me.

Speaker 1 Go check it out now. You can buy it everywhere.
I'm holding it up for people who are watching on YouTube. A memoir, awesome pictures on the back, young Kenny the Jet.

Speaker 1 All right, so thank you for coming, first of all.

Speaker 1 Your book, let's start with your book, and then we'll talk a little NBA, what's going on

Speaker 1 in the playoffs. So your book has a lot of stories about all the people who have impacted you in your life.

Speaker 1 And I guess this is probably a question you're going to get a lot, but I have to know what the best piece of advice that Charles Barkley gave you because

Speaker 1 he seems actually like he would give good advice if you asked him for it.

Speaker 1 No, not necessarily. Okay, all right.
I was wrong. Yeah, I was trying to give Charles a compliment.
No, you know, yeah, I think the one thing

Speaker 1 that, you know, I read a lot of self-help books. I do, you know, oh,

Speaker 1 such and such for dummies and whatever it might be. And

Speaker 1 it always would seem like it was from

Speaker 1 one person's point of view. And

Speaker 1 this is 15 people

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 I observed that influenced me. So it's 15 point of view.
It's a self-help.

Speaker 1 So I feel, hopefully, when you read it, people, you know, feel better about themselves and understand, oh, Bill Russell did that. Oh, Magic Johnson.

Speaker 1 operate oh shaq you know michael jordan works that that way now Now, that's why it worked for me. So, I think that's it.
But the best advice I'd say from Chuck,

Speaker 1 the part that is influential is he gave me a voice where

Speaker 1 before him, people just asked me basketball questions. I never would talk about politics, never talk about culture.
They'd be like, Knicks win?

Speaker 1 You think the Knicks are going to win? You keep it moving. Yeah.
You know, but now I go places. And his voice, you know,

Speaker 1 since I, and he's like, in terms of, not in terms of of the person, but the voice, like he started like Muhammad Ali would not be just asked boxing questions, right? More than an athlete.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and so he is that. That's the reason why LeBron and those guys today, he's the bridge for that, for LeBron and Chris Paul and Camelo was, you know, to do.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sometimes he says things that are sneaky, profound, and other times I saw this the other day where he was on the steam room and he was talking about losing his soap in a hotel. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 what is that about what what was he saying with that clip where he was like i have to bring my own soap on the road because one time i only he has a big butt how about that

Speaker 1 and so now use your imagination with the little hotel

Speaker 1 so yeah i mean he could give you that

Speaker 1 or

Speaker 1 He could give you something political. But the one thing that, you know, even when I was writing it, I realized where how I view people came from my parents in this way.

Speaker 1 My mom, I can hear it even now. Kenny, listen.
Be a listener. Listen.

Speaker 1 Because, you know, and this is the day and age, especially with even with all the podcasts and things that we do, I want to be heard. I want to listen to what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 But listening gives you empathy, even when you might not have sympathy.

Speaker 1 And so being empathetic of, oh, that's why he acts that way allowed me to have these people in my life, which when I was writing it, I wrote,

Speaker 1 I was about maybe the fourth chapter. I was sending it in to the editor.
He goes, you realize like everybody you're sending in has a book written about their life?

Speaker 1 I was like, man, I have access to that. And didn't think about how I have the access to do that and talk to these people, which I think if I knew all this at 20, sheesh, oh my God.

Speaker 1 I'd own this station, man. We'd be all owning this station.
I'd own five teams.

Speaker 2 As far as the different people that you talked to for this book, what's one example of one person that said something really profound that you had never thought about before you got the chance to read what they had to say.

Speaker 1 It's more echoes. You hear echoes in the back and you don't realize it in the back of your head.

Speaker 1 You know, when the whole George Floyd thing was going on, I walked off the set, you know, and I was like, I think I shouldn't be here today.

Speaker 1 And I was like, so that's how the book actually came about. Literature agent called me when she was like, you have a book.
I'm like, what do you mean? She's like, why'd you walk off?

Speaker 1 I was like, well, it's really like the people who made me. And I was like, oh, through sport, through culture, through politics, whatever.
so

Speaker 1 that also went back to bill russell and dean smith bill russell was my first coach he drafted me in the nba imagine that right yeah that's a we'll get to that and then dean smith it was like my first week in school he brought me in and he's like brought me in the office and i'm throwing he's like how many jump ropes are you gonna do i'm thinking and we lift weights and whatever and he and he asked me he said uh Kenny, as an African-American student, what are you gonna do here for the students here?

Speaker 1 I was like, whoa, like, that was the first time someone who wasn't African-American asked me, what am I going to do for black people? Like, what? Like, that just blew my mind.

Speaker 2 It's a big question for an 18-year-old.

Speaker 1 And so, hey, and that was during the time of apartheid, Mandela. We had shanties on campus.
And so, like,

Speaker 1 that might have been echoing in my head when I walked off. Bill Russell, you know, it's got funny stories because he

Speaker 1 threw us out of practice one day because he fell asleep. But that's another story.
but uh he

Speaker 1 one day where he's sitting he has all these notes on the plane because his rule was he I had to sit next to him every plane ride every and every bus ride and I would drive home with him because we lived a mile away so I spent a lot of time with him then so now he's looking at these notes and it's got like Yugoslavia Spain players and you so I go coach you telling me there's not a guy in Alabama you could just drive and go see just as good And he says, Kenny, as an African-American, you can never not want inclusion.

Speaker 1 I'm like, so he's taking a joking moment. So all those echoes are in your body and in your ears that you don't know, like why you do things.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, now I started to understand where I'm getting these, that information

Speaker 1 and compelled to do things, you know, in sport, in business, in life.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think a lot of people lack empathy until they go through a moment that makes them realize, oh, yeah, this is what other people experience.

Speaker 1 You know what it is, too? What it happened with Shaq. Yeah.
Because Shaq has a military background. Like, if you know his dad, this big military, we know that story.

Speaker 1 And he's a police officer. Shaq acts.
He has a real badge. He has the sirens and lights and everything.

Speaker 1 So he has a reverence to military and police officers because he was going in the wrong direction and they straightened him up. Get up at six, make your bed, but whatever it might be.

Speaker 1 I grew up in Queens, New York. Like, we don't look at it, we, we respect law enforcement, but we don't look at it the same way.

Speaker 1 So when he makes a comment during a cultural, social, economic moment, I have to be empathetic that they made him the billionaire that he is. Yeah.
Right. You know, that lifestyle.

Speaker 1 So he has a reverence. And if I don't, even though I might not agree, or Charles from Alabama, I might not agree.
If I don't understand why, then what are we doing?

Speaker 1 And that's what I think what gets lost a lot, even in sport and in life.

Speaker 1 It sounds like in writing this book, it was probably pretty therapeutic to look back and be like, Look at all these people that I've been able to be friends with, to mentor, to be mentee.

Speaker 1 Like, was that? Did you have that moment? You're like, wow. Like,

Speaker 1 I thought it was normal. Right.
Like, you guys could just call Shaq, or you guys could call Magic Johnson.

Speaker 1 I didn't think that that was special. Like, until I realized, like,

Speaker 1 no,

Speaker 1 he's the highest of the high in his profession financially culturally and in his like what like I there's 20 there's 15 and I got 15 more that just didn't make the book yeah like I had to I realized that I've been blessed with the ability to see around corners too like

Speaker 1 I met guys

Speaker 1 and ladies early in their careers and I go now they're gonna make it now I might have mentored and some I haven't no nothing but I go no, that's it. He's the one.

Speaker 1 Like, I was on a plane with Michael B. Jordan, and I wrote about this.

Speaker 1 And it's like five or six guys like this. I was on a plane with him.
He had not acted yet. And he just happened to be sitting next to me.
And I'm talking to him. I give him my number.

Speaker 1 Calls me up like six months later. He's like, hey, Kenny, remember me, Michael B.? I'm like, yeah, Michael.
How many Michael Jordan? Yeah, right. So yeah, I remember you, bro.
How are you? He's like,

Speaker 1 I'm moving to L.A.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to go through this, but it's acting thing.

Speaker 1 He's like, I might need a meal or two. So if I get stuck out here, I'm gonna come.

Speaker 1 And I said to him, bro, you'll never need a meal from me. You're it.

Speaker 1 That's really cool. Because you see it.

Speaker 1 It's a quality that, like,

Speaker 1 when I watch a guy on TV and play, I'm like, he's going to be, like, he's going to be the MVP of the league. Yeah.
Like, no, he's just, I remember I said that about Durant.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, you just, it's something about it that you see that they have. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You probably also said that about Lonnie Walker, right?

Speaker 1 Like LeBron. He's like, I knew, I knew the second one.
That's cap.

Speaker 1 It's funny that you guys caught up, picked up on that because the first thing we were like, so LeBron has to take credit for the fact that he knew be ready. I was like,

Speaker 1 is he back there telling, you know,

Speaker 1 Pippin's son, be ready, bro. Yeah, yeah.
You never know.

Speaker 1 He said that to Tristan Thompson yet. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's what makes it so funny about LeBron because he's so, he's, without a doubt, one of the top two basketball players of all time.

Speaker 2 But he also has these goofy moments where he says something and we can all like laugh at him in the same moment.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I read that book. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That book.

Speaker 2 Oh, you should get LeBron to read the first page of your book.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 What's on the first page?

Speaker 1 Also, it's not without a doubt because Kenny didn't have LeBron in his top 10 a few years ago. At that time, I did not.
Yeah, well, we had him on those. It was close.
Has he made it there yet?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's in the top 10. Has Steph, I mean, Steph, is he there? It's hard because every time you add someone, you got to take someone out.
Well, I just say, you know,

Speaker 1 again, we went through the 10, and I'm going off the top of my head because I'm probably going to leave someone out when you go off the top of your head and now have a list in front of you. But

Speaker 1 these guys will never, I don't think Michael could ever be removed. I don't think Kareem could ever be removed.

Speaker 1 I don't think Magic and I don't think Bird could ever be removed because it's kind of like

Speaker 1 if I watch someone play the piano and they're the first pianist,

Speaker 1 you gave me the blueprint on how to play the piano.

Speaker 1 But if it's never been played before, and you figure out how to make music, like there's something special about that, yeah, more than anything else.

Speaker 1 So, those guys kind of put it: Will Chamberlain is on that.

Speaker 1 So, now we got five that can't be removed, right? So, there's only five that can jump into your top ten. So, at that time, I still had Oscar Robertson, Mr.
Triple Double, you know, and so, like, no,

Speaker 1 Shaq

Speaker 1 right around there, Tim Duncan. Like, where are we? Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 it gets very difficult. Where are we? And so for Steph,

Speaker 1 you know, LeBron is obviously the generational part about him is the longevity of it. Right.
You know, there are people who had just as good as years as him, but no one's had just as good of careers.

Speaker 1 You know, it's not the ordinary, it's the extra, which makes you extraordinary. You know, it makes you extraordinary.
It's not the, you're doing ordinary things all the time that

Speaker 1 you can consistently do them. Where I can't even, like, I can't run and jump the way I used to.
So it's not, you can't consistently do it. But

Speaker 1 look, Steph,

Speaker 1 I just don't think that, like, I always say Steph is going to be culturally in the top 10 here because of the way the game is played. You don't have to defend to affect the game the same way.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So those guys also like Michael, Kareem,

Speaker 1 they affected the game defensively. That

Speaker 1 changes the way you play.

Speaker 1 So that's why I move Michael here. Right.

Speaker 1 So speaking of him, I assume he's in your book. Yes.

Speaker 1 The Jordan chapter. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can you give us an anecdote or a lesson that he gave you that you didn't even know at the time? You look back and you're like, oh, yeah, how he was doing it. That's...

Speaker 1 I started mimicking something after him.

Speaker 1 I think I open up with saying, when you read it, is going to be,

Speaker 1 I've always been jealous of Scotty Pippen.

Speaker 1 That's how I opened up. Because he was the fifth pick.
I was the sixth. And then he got traded to Chicago.
Right.

Speaker 1 And I was like, that could be me.

Speaker 1 Because I playing with Michael and being a New Yorker, like,

Speaker 1 we talk, we have a bravado about us that we like. someone who pushes us in our face.

Speaker 1 Those guys always propelled me. So, like, being a good player is also knowing what you don't have.
And, like, sometimes I need that, like, that, that guy to be in your face and like get you motivated.

Speaker 1 And so, I used to watch it as when he was a bull, and I used to be like, Scotty doesn't realize he's going to be great.

Speaker 1 Because I don't think Scotty even made the all-rookie team first team, his rookie team with us. So, like, imagine that.
Now, he's a top 50 player of all time. Right.

Speaker 1 Because a guy pushes you that's next to you is also part of your journey. And I knew what that was by being at.
I was like, ah, man, let me get that. Like, let me get that.
Like, passion.

Speaker 1 Like, as a New Yorker, we have that always around us. Like, the melting pot of people.
Like, I'm around Italian people who just love their culture. I'm around, you know,

Speaker 1 devout Jewish people who are like... passionate about their religion, Muslims, like everyone.

Speaker 1 So when someone's like, Mike is that, he's a New Yorker, don't know it. Like, he's just like, he's in your face about it, how he is.
And I was like, I'm jealous. So I took away from Michael

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 ability

Speaker 1 to push yourself.

Speaker 1 Like, how do you push yourself at times? And I still didn't have enough of it because I would have had him to help me. So I'm always jealous of Scotty Pippen, man.
I hate you, Scotty.

Speaker 1 It is one of those things, whether it be basketball or work or life, if the most talented person is also the hardest worker, it's hard not to fall in line.

Speaker 1 It's hard not to be like, Well, that guy could, he could get by with just doing it, but he's also putting in more hours than everyone.

Speaker 1 But see, the fact is, I don't even know if he was putting in more hours,

Speaker 1 but he had a there's a bravado

Speaker 1 while you're putting the hours in.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Yeah, like it's almost kind of like

Speaker 1 doing something that you really don't want to do sometime in the moment,

Speaker 1 but still doing it like you love it, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that is hard to do some days.

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Speaker 2 Are you a little bit mad at Michael Jordan for taking those years off? Because people always say, like those Rockets teams,

Speaker 2 you guys won your championships. Who's those people?

Speaker 1 Where they're at? I'm not saying me.

Speaker 2 But in this room, many people are saying

Speaker 1 if Jordan was playing on the Bulls, they would not have won eight in a row.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you're saying you saw the documentary, first of all.

Speaker 2 I would be mad if I were you because I would be like, yeah, we would have beaten Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 No, I always say that. I'm not mad.
We got ours. Like, that was his.
With an asterisk. And personally, there's no asterisk.
When he was back. And he had 55 points at the garden.

Speaker 1 Y'all were like, he's back. Michael's back.
And he's the greatest of ever. What do you mean by you?

Speaker 2 By you guys were like,

Speaker 1 if you were in wherever you were, when Michael came back, you were screaming screaming that he's back when he hits the guard and floor in the middle and he had 55, the double nickel.

Speaker 1 Then he losed to Orlando. Well, listen.
But we swept him.

Speaker 1 And the reason. Well, Nick Anderson couldn't hit a free throw.
No, but we swept him. That would have been one.
We swept them. Not long one.
They didn't win a games.

Speaker 1 Mark and Penny didn't win a game against us in the finals. The two guys who made first team all NBA did not win a game against us.

Speaker 2 So you you would have extra swept.

Speaker 1 My point is this, and this is where it comes from: this confidence.

Speaker 1 Horace Grant was in Orlando. Yep.

Speaker 1 We saw in the documentary there was dissension, so he left. They were too small.

Speaker 1 It wasn't Michael wasn't great when they lost to Orlando. They were too small.
They didn't have a Grant to contend with Grant, or they killed him on the board Shaq. We had Dream.

Speaker 1 He was Shaq on steroids then. So they were too small.
There was no Dennis Rodman. Right.
That's two years later. So they would have been a small team trying to defend Dream and us.

Speaker 1 We would have beat them. Now, if you asked me the same question and go, can you beat that first 3P team or the second three?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'd be scratching my head.
But those teams, how they were constructed, and just add Mike to it, we would have beat them for sure. Swept.
We would have beaten them.

Speaker 1 I don't know, not swept, but we would have beat them.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, I mean, I loved watching Hakeem play. It was his footwork was insane.

Speaker 1 Like, just everything about him, like, the fact that he was so tall and such a big man, he was, he looked like he was like ballet out there. Was uh, who was the best player you ever played with?

Speaker 1 And maybe we'll count not count college chapters. Well, there's an Akeem,

Speaker 1 there's an Akeem chapter, there's a Michael chapter because I play with both. I play with Akeem Elajuan and Michael Jordan.
Like, I know, it's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so, and spent many moments with all of them. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I think Michael's going to be the best player. Yeah, not coming in college.
So, just NBA.

Speaker 1 Akeem, easily. Yeah.
Not even close. Like,

Speaker 1 he was Michael in those two-year runs. Like, he, when I say he was Michael, he invoked fear into the opponent when you weren't the position he was guarding.
That's fear.

Speaker 1 So, like,

Speaker 1 does

Speaker 1 Steph Curry make

Speaker 1 Anthony Davis fearful? I think yes.

Speaker 1 I think yes.

Speaker 1 I don't know him. I think yes.
I think

Speaker 1 I would say yes. Man, because of what he's going to do on the court, I can't do what I do.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think the way that he has to play defense on his guy.

Speaker 1 Anthony Davis feels that he can't play well with Steph Curry.

Speaker 1 But I think Steph Curry passes a test and it's talking about the all-time greats, and LeBron's in there, and there's, you know, some guys who might be getting there right now.

Speaker 1 But Steph specifically,

Speaker 1 you have to know where he is at all times the whole team does deep team defense because he he

Speaker 1 the way he pulls everyone

Speaker 1 yeah where i have the ball maybe not so yeah maybe that's there's no fear okay but offensive but defensively i think that every fearful all five guys are fearful of where steph is and making sure they know where he is at all times do you think patrick ewing when he caught the ball on the right block

Speaker 1 was like, where the hell's Michael? Well, he traveled a lot. He's like, where's Michael? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, he's like, I'm going to travel and they won't call like and and how many times did you see the block from no i know i mean the the the that's the difference like and kakeem

Speaker 1 you had to know where he was no you're right because the the mj the final shot the play before on offense ending is the play before is stripping carl male you don't come to the double team when akeem comes and gets the ball on the block early enough you're coming out the game because you didn't do your job That's fear.

Speaker 1 So he had that for two years that I was there. that everybody on the floor was like, Where is the dream at? Right, yeah, on both ends.

Speaker 2 We talked during March Madness about Sunogo and some of the other guys that were

Speaker 2 doing Ramadan during the tournament and during games where they weren't drinking, they weren't eating before the games at all. Hakeem did that too.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like very, it was, it was big news at the time, and not a lot of people understood what he was doing.

Speaker 2 What would you see in him on those days where he had to go out and he had to be the best player on the court, but he could not have any water, could not have any food?

Speaker 2 How did he get get, like, gear himself up to be able to play at that next level?

Speaker 1 The first year I saw it, I was like, I didn't know until about five days in that he wasn't eating before the game.

Speaker 1 I thought maybe it was like Ramadan ended at, I didn't, I'm not, I wasn't Muslim, I'm not Muslim, so I didn't know the timing. So I'm thinking he's going to eat in at five.
We're playing at 7.30.

Speaker 1 Right. It's like, no, he's not eating until after the game.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 This is like a weekend.

Speaker 1 And in that week, I think he he might have been player of the week in the NBA.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 what? Yeah. Like, oh, my God, I can't even get through this interview without asking you for some water.
Yeah. Like, what are you talking about? Do you need water? No, I'm good now.

Speaker 1 I'm on my

Speaker 1 Nami stuff. But yeah, it's just amazing.

Speaker 1 And that just lets you know your mental fortitude because

Speaker 1 now

Speaker 1 you see people with intermittent fasting or whatever. Yeah.
You know, to try to lose weight. So there is is a point when you do it

Speaker 1 that you're like man i need something and then it goes away you go through the wall you go through the wall and if you're spiritually connected like he was you know he's sitting there he's praying and it like he's like he's he's spiritually connected he broke through the wall easier yeah where for me if i'm intermittent fasting Like I'm not breaking through that wall.

Speaker 1 It takes a lot.

Speaker 2 It's because he's playing for something that's bigger than himself. And so he's almost drawing strength from that.

Speaker 2 Whereas if you try to do it, you're like, I'm going to play through this because I'd really like to be able to see my second ab in a month. Which isn't

Speaker 2 the same motivation.

Speaker 1 It's not the same motivation at all. And it doesn't put the same pressure on it because you're not doing it for yourself.
Yeah. You know, it's kind of like taking the pressure.
Dean Smith used to say,

Speaker 1 we play a big game, North Carolina State, or Duke or somebody. Not Duke, the school from Durham.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 If we're playing one of them, and he go,

Speaker 1 coming in, you think he's going to have this big rah-rah speech? And he goes, you know,

Speaker 1 there's billions of people in China that don't even know we're playing today.

Speaker 1 All right, let's go. And that was it.
That was the pregame speech.

Speaker 1 And we go out. Yeah.
And it just put things in perspective. Yeah, it put you at ease.
It puts you at ease. So, you know, that you know it's big, it's, it's, it's bigger than you.

Speaker 1 This is not, this is nothing. Yeah.
You, you mentioned the school from Durham. I'm a big-time Coach K hater.
How awesome was that sending him off the way that North Carolina did?

Speaker 1 I'm a hater, and I loved it. Well, you loved the whole like fake respect thing.
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. All right.

Speaker 1 Because when someone or something brings the best out of you, you can't really hate it. You got to receive.
You have to have a level of respect for it.

Speaker 1 And their teams, they will bring the best out of you

Speaker 1 if you're not ready when he was there. So so i i gotta respect it actually it was one of my final schools too and um

Speaker 1 you know between it was north carolina duke and virginia so those are like only three schools i visited so i have i had i always had a respect for what they was you know but i just knew we were better yeah why why'd you pick unc over duke well

Speaker 1 there's a lot of reasons but um i think A lot of schools had at that time, they were like, oh, we have a great basketball program. We have a great academics.
We have a great social social life.

Speaker 1 But North Carolina had all three, it like had everything. It was like, You ever see like movies when you're growing up about college life?

Speaker 1 You go, damn, it's frat houses and studying, and whatever it might basketball, women just say women, yeah, yeah, the girls, famous colors,

Speaker 1 I have a theory, everything, yeah, yeah, and even like because you watch a movie and you're like, it's not just the women, it had everything, yeah.

Speaker 1 It was like the size of it, like you know, that big university, like, you know, those fake universities, a big, big you is coming to you, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he got game, yeah.
It looks like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I was like, I was amazed by that.
Like, I was just amazed.

Speaker 1 It felt like every day I was on a movie set. It didn't feel like it was real at times.

Speaker 1 I do have a theory that like at least 20% of the student population at UNC goes to UNC just because the colors are that good. The colors.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is. Like you'd wear it the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 Being able to wear the Carolina blue for the rest of your life is pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you think about how athletics affects the decisions of

Speaker 1 academia because most people

Speaker 1 don't hear about schools. The first time they hear about them is through sport.
Yeah. For sure.
Yeah. Oh, I'm going to go to that school because it's sport.

Speaker 1 They don't know about the

Speaker 1 academics. Yeah.
All right. So this current playoffs.

Speaker 1 It's wide open. It feels the most wide open it's been in a long time.
Oh, it's NCA tournament. Yeah, right.
It's this parody. Like every team has a flaw.
Every team has a strength.

Speaker 1 Gun to your head, knowing right now. So, we're taping this on Thursday.
We're going to run it Friday. So, there are some game sixes playing on Thursday night.
Who do you have?

Speaker 1 The best overall team in basketball is the Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 1 Speak on it, Kenny.

Speaker 1 I mean, they have an MVP candidate. They have a great point guard in Murray.
They have young players, Gordon and Porter, that have kind of got some seasoning, got bench with Green. They have no holes.

Speaker 1 Good coaching. They have no holes they just don't have experience like there is a different

Speaker 1 when you it's harder to get to the finals than win it

Speaker 1 oh i like that it is i i actually agree with that because like even the warriors we you know they're gonna play game six on friday night but game five i bet the warriors because i was like this like you could just tell that like hey this team they won't go out like this like they have they they aren't gonna panic they know it's an uphill climb to come back 3-1 but they also aren't gonna be like we got to do everything different.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, we got to just, you know, play our ball. It's hard.
It's hard because

Speaker 1 there's a threshold very similar to what we were just talking about. There's a threshold in the fasting that you got to break through,

Speaker 1 not just to get an ab. You know what I mean? Just like you said, it's like you have to give yourself other than yourself to break through that threshold for a team.

Speaker 1 And when and that, you can only learn it by experiencing it. And it's hard.

Speaker 1 I can't even describe it just the same way if you say, when you're hungry and you're fasting, how do you break through that hour when you want to eat and you did it?

Speaker 1 You can't really explain it verbally, but you did it. It's the exact same feeling.

Speaker 1 Like you cannot explain it, but you got to go through it to get to the Western Conference Western Conference finals or you get in that Western semis and you're like, I got to break through.

Speaker 1 We got to break through as a team. And you go, and then all of a sudden you're like,

Speaker 1 man,

Speaker 1 you realize how valuable scotty brooks was who was the 11th man on the team and you start realizing how valuable that is and no one understands and be like oh tristan thompson's just on the team for show because he's a kardashian and

Speaker 1 there's something that he's got to do to help that team break through even as a guy who's not playing yeah yeah they've also got the best mascot in the nba right now rocky have you seen did you see the ladder shot that he made the other day no man you put up a oh you're talking about danger oh yeah Rocky's always.

Speaker 1 A ladder on the back of the bag. A glad and threw it over his head.
And Rocky's been.

Speaker 2 They're playing for Rocky. Yeah, Rocky.

Speaker 2 You played in Denver, right?

Speaker 1 I played in Denver. Rocky and the Houston Rockets guy turbo was the best

Speaker 2 also. Respect to the Phoenix Suns guerrilla basketball

Speaker 1 in history. Like, Turbo was crazy.

Speaker 2 But when you play in Denver, people always talk about the altitude when it comes to football. And that seems to be the end of the conversation.
But in basketball, it makes a difference too, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's funny how it's also psychological, though like when you really think about it you feel it more yeah right yeah but it

Speaker 1 they i don't like for me it would only it did affect me like i in terms of i didn't get as tired but i i would get dizzy

Speaker 1 but most people don't realize utah is at a higher altitude

Speaker 1 And no one ever says playing in Utah is tough with the altitude.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's a big time people forget that.

Speaker 1 And it's bigger. But those first, like, when you come in and warm up, like, when I felt, I would warm up, I would try to warm up there harder because I'd get dizzy.

Speaker 1 I would get a little dizzy and I knew it was from the altitude. Just like for like a minute, like you feel a little, like, a little lightheaded, and then it kind of like it subsides and it goes away.

Speaker 1 And about the second quarter, you don't feel it. But that first quarter,

Speaker 1 Denver, I felt a burning in my throat. Utah, I felt lightheaded.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So on the other side of that, what happens to Denver to make them not win the championship? What's their weakness? You said everybody's got holes.
That's just a fact.

Speaker 1 Their weakness is,

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 will Gordon and Porter

Speaker 1 break through the threshold

Speaker 1 and become famous?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 the regular season isn't when you make your name. The playoffs, you get famous.

Speaker 1 That's fame. Like,

Speaker 1 people know me. Oh, yo, he broke the NBA record for threes.
He hit the three to tie it up in the NBA Finals. They don't say anything about, yo, against the Clippers in game 63, this dude.

Speaker 1 I never get asked about when I hit a game winner. I hit a game winner against the Clippers.
I've never been asked about it. I was actually going to ask you about it.
I never talked about it.

Speaker 1 That was an available thing.

Speaker 1 Did you talk about it?

Speaker 2 So the game winner that you hit against the Clippers, that must have been an amazing moment for you.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 2 What was going through your head when you were in that chat?

Speaker 1 Going through my head is like, okay, where am I going after that?

Speaker 1 What's popping? What's popping in this city tonight? And I hit the game winner. Somebody might remember that.

Speaker 1 But like, so they haven't had those moments that Wiggins and Poole have had

Speaker 1 in playoffs. Now we know them for that.
Like, we know the Pooh party, not for the regular season, because it was last year. So now he's in a playoff, he's struggling.

Speaker 1 We're like, yo, yo, where are you? Like, what you doing? Because it was the playoffs that he did. Right.

Speaker 1 You guys, obviously, part of the reason why everyone loves your show is that you guys are honest, and it doesn't feel, it feels like four friends sitting on a set talking about basketball, having a conversation.

Speaker 1 Four friends that will lie to each other in their face. Yeah, that too.
That too.

Speaker 1 No, I wasn't there. That wasn't me.
Yeah. But

Speaker 1 has there ever, what player has been the most mad at something you guys have said? What's player? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought you meant what's one of us. Shaq gets the maddest at what we say to him.
Oh, I love, yeah, I love when Shaq gets mad.

Speaker 1 You could tell, too. Shaq gets easily the maddest.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, he's the new guy.

Speaker 1 He's been 14 years. That's what I was saying.
He's not new anymore. You can do 20 more years of it, and he'll still be the new guy because that's just how our brains work.

Speaker 1 That is how he's going to get mad after he hears.

Speaker 1 Charles calls him Petty White.

Speaker 1 Richard Petty.

Speaker 1 So, yeah. But

Speaker 1 I don't. Well, no one's ever been mad at me the way I think Kevin Durant has been mad at Chuck.
That's true.

Speaker 1 Or have that fuel.

Speaker 1 Because I have a rule.

Speaker 1 I'm never going to say anything about your passion or your heart. I can't measure that.
But if your ass don't run back on D, I'm going to be like, yo, he doesn't get back. He doesn't have the effort.

Speaker 1 Look, he's not running back. He's not being in his position.
And you can't fool me because, like, I.

Speaker 1 I'm going to toot my horn. I think I'm the best in the business of breaking down film.

Speaker 1 I know what your defensive assignments were based on the last three plays. Right.
It's like, so you weren't there.

Speaker 1 Like, you can't lie.

Speaker 1 Let me run to the big board. Let me hit my knees together and run to the big board and try to see what goes on.
And y'all must show it.

Speaker 1 So they never, they might not like what I say or point it out, but they can never be mad. Because I never like, yo, this dude doesn't have any heart.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You had a race with Ernie to the big board the other day. He almost beat you.
Some were saying that he was going to beat you.

Speaker 1 Never again. Because I've been doing some this treatment on my legs now.
They did get you,

Speaker 1 was it this week or last week? What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 Treatment on your legs.

Speaker 2 Are you talking about squats?

Speaker 1 No, it's a treatment, man. I'm working out.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it's a machine and it's a workout with it. It's called a newbie.
And I've been doing that with and doing all the stuff. Just to get to the board.

Speaker 1 Because I was like, I'm like, man, I'm not running like I used to run, man. This is crazy.

Speaker 2 So you're saying Ernie will never beat you.

Speaker 1 He'll never

Speaker 1 lock your chair. Like, was it last week or this week? They locked your chair.

Speaker 1 beat me let me show you something that was very funny something like okay I could never do this because we're on camera too so I couldn't do this right I would sit there it couldn't get up oh

Speaker 1 one leg a chair all right let's race to the board and now I just beat you

Speaker 1 the part of my team bro you can't beat me now what happens if Ernie beats you you got to put some stakes you said never so you got to put some stakes on never what so if he beats you but see you defend yourself no that's not fair because if I bet you a bet on a never I'm the only one that loses.

Speaker 1 Because never could never happen for you, and you never have to pay up. So, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 there has to be a time limit.

Speaker 1 He will never beat me this year. How about that?

Speaker 2 And what are you going to give him?

Speaker 1 No, what do you let's make the bet because you seem like you got some Ernie Johnson fanfare going on?

Speaker 2 If Ernie beats you to the board,

Speaker 2 you have to get a cat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. How about that? And I have a dog already.
Yeah, you got to get a cat. This is the stupidest bet ever heard.
Yeah, it is. It's really stupid.
It is. It's the stupidest bet I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 And if

Speaker 1 he doesn't, if he doesn't, Hank, our producer, has to get a cat. No, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 Pizza Party.

Speaker 1 No, pizza party. I'll get you a pizza party.
No, I don't want a pizza party. You don't like pizza party? No.
What's the matter with you? You,

Speaker 1 you have to get a pig, a guinea pig. Oh, a guinea pig.
A guinea pig.

Speaker 2 Well, how many more times are you going to race? It might not even get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should rust it. You're next year.
You should do it for next year because there's only like.

Speaker 1 There's no more games left.

Speaker 1 we might not go back to the studio, but one more time. Yeah, it's just on the road for next year.

Speaker 2 Next year. Next year.
All next season.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll be flying through this. I'll be jumping.
You know how we have those stairs? I'll be jumping from one to the top.

Speaker 2 Okay. All right, so next year, you get a cat.
If he beats you, we'll get a guinea pig.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you got to have it in studio. Okay.
Yeah. Okay.
We've done it. Deal.
Done. Deal.
Done deal. So we got a room for Ernie next year.

Speaker 2 I'm going to poison the shit out of you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Got a room for Ernie.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 1 if I see Ernie like winning, I'm running and tackling.

Speaker 1 I don't want a cat.

Speaker 1 I don't want a cat. They're too sneaky.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Kenny, this has been awesome.
Everyone go buy the book. It is, if you're watching on YouTube right now, you can see it.
Talk a champion stories of the people who made me.

Speaker 1 I have one last question.

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Speaker 1 Non-basketball related, we actually were down in Miami this past weekend for F1. You were there too.
How was it? F1's first time time ever being there. Yeah.
Yeah. It was fun.

Speaker 1 It seemed like you had fun. Knew your way around a little bit.
Yeah. F1 was fun.
I know spots. Yeah, you had some fun.
I had a little bit of fun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What? What? I don't get it.

Speaker 1 I was just asking if you had fun. You said you had fun.

Speaker 1 I want you to have fun. I went to F1 and the heat game on the same day.
Oh. So I went from F1.
I started at like noon,

Speaker 1 left at 3, got to the heat game at 3.45. The first quarter just started.
Watched the game. Then went to my main main man, Miles at Prime 112.
Went to the Prime 112,

Speaker 1 finished the night. Good, it was a good one.
It was fun. It sounds awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, you got some beach time.

Speaker 2 It's really hot down there.

Speaker 1 I'll see.

Speaker 1 You know what the funny thing is? Oh, we watched your show. I had no idea where you were.
I was like, what are they talking about? I just caught the joke. Because

Speaker 1 the funny thing is, I'm like,

Speaker 1 is it really news that I'm on a beach?

Speaker 1 I was like, it really is like,

Speaker 1 I've done this, like, there's 10,000 other people here.

Speaker 1 And it was trending. And I was like, well, maybe it wasn't me.
Yeah, maybe it wasn't you in the picture. But yeah, like fun.
It looked like fun. Yeah, man.
I got one follow-up question.

Speaker 1 This is basketball.

Speaker 2 This is strictly basketball related, though. Just see if you know players in the NBA.
Pop quiz, where is Anderson Varejau from?

Speaker 1 From Brazil.

Speaker 2 You really know a lot about Brazil.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 2 This man is.

Speaker 1 You must know some people from Brazil. My Portuguese is picked up.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Kenny, thank you as always, man.
Great to see you in person. Good, too.
Yeah. That was better than what Charles did.

Speaker 1 We'll see you, man. All right, man.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's finish up the show with some Fire Fest of the week.

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 5 Yeah, what's up?

Speaker 2 What's up? What's your Fire Fest, Hank?

Speaker 5 The soul patch I have right now is tough.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's trying to do it. We're taping this before the game.
So you're trying to reverse chinx that you did have on Wednesday's show a little error where you were like, yeah, Celtics won.

Speaker 1 They're up 3-2. Jason Tatum, 40 points.

Speaker 1 So you're trying to reverse this?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm just trying to, I'm, you know, giving people, people listening to this are listening on Friday.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 And you have a soul patch right now. Yep.
Is that a guarantee?

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 5 have a parking space in a garage.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 5 I've probably done, to get into the parking space, I turn around in the garage and then I park facing, so the car is looking at the exit, so it's just easier to get out. Back to get out.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 5 Done the three-point turn. I don't know.
I was thinking about how many times. Probably 500 times.
Pretty simple three-point turn.

Speaker 5 Sometimes there's more cars, so it's a little bit tighter, but it's pretty standard, pretty basic. Can do it in my sleep.
Monday,

Speaker 5 I don't know what was going on. I don't know if this is a Celtics lost hangover.

Speaker 5 I went to Target. Just got a couple groceries.
Was come back

Speaker 5 6 o'clock at night. Do the three-point turn.
Wasn't even looking. Go to put it in drive and just crunched into a pole that's in my.

Speaker 1 But you have cameras on this car.

Speaker 5 I do have cameras. I wasn't looking.
It was like, you know,

Speaker 5 it's just a one, two, three. I've done it so many times.

Speaker 5 I wasn't even thinking.

Speaker 5 And I'm getting ready to sell the car and I have to get it fixed now. And it's a whole fucking thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so this is my old car that I sold to you for $1. You're selling it to Max for $2.

Speaker 5 But I have to spend, I took it yesterday to the shop. I have to spend $2,300 to get it fixed.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you can't drive it now?

Speaker 2 No, you can drive it. So could Max still buy it from you? Could you pay Max? Sounds like it would be cheaper if you paid Max $1,000 to take your car.

Speaker 1 Yeah, technically, this car has been totaled. No.
Well, it's worth it. $2 car.
Oh, true. Yeah.
That's true. So it is totaled.
Also,

Speaker 1 that sucks. I feel bad for you.
You haven't had anyone just hand you $2,500 recently, right?

Speaker 1 I could cover that. Well, you want this room?

Speaker 5 No, I want a court settlement.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Okay, got it.

Speaker 5 Legally and

Speaker 5 the state determined that I was entitled to that money. Got it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so you're paying taxes on that money, too, since the state determined.

Speaker 1 You should. Okay.
You should. Yep.

Speaker 1 That sucks. Yeah, it's just a whole...

Speaker 5 I put off... I mean, I feel like yesterday I really locked in, was like, figure shit out because I put a lot of the Chicago move and just logistical stuff off until after Miami.

Speaker 5 So having to deal with the car thing is not a fun wrinkle.

Speaker 1 Wrinkle, yeah. Did you ever get the windshield fixed? Yeah.
Okay, nice.

Speaker 2 I do think you should sell it to Max, though, for like negative money.

Speaker 5 No, I might give, I might, I gotta talk to him, but I might give him money, and he has to go fix it.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's kind of what I did with you. The windshield was broken, and I was like, here, take my car for $1.
It's not my problem. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 5 And I could just, we'll see. But yeah, it's just.

Speaker 1 There's nothing worse. I mean, I've had that happen.

Speaker 1 Actually, in that car, when I first got it, I just was backing out of a spot and I like hit a pole, maybe going like three miles an hour and it just shattered the taillight.

Speaker 1 There's just because you know it's not that big of a deal, but you're like, how am I so fucking stupid?

Speaker 2 Hank and Al Horford handshake meme missing three pointers.

Speaker 1 Damn. I'm gonna, we'll come back to that.
We'll come back to that. We'll come back to that.
You might have been wrong, PFT.

Speaker 2 No, I was referring to the last game.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 5 Well, no. The last game art.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was referring to the real last game

Speaker 2 that we had on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Two games ago. Hank, did you like those texts I I gave you? I just sent you some Etsy stuff.

Speaker 5 Yeah, what? Big hatches.

Speaker 1 Well, I just thought we'd have a vision board. We're a golf podcast now, so I just sent him a bunch of pictures that say, like, golf is life.

Speaker 1 Like, in life.

Speaker 5 These things are 7P.

Speaker 1 In life, there's hard choices, and it's just a picture of all the golf clubs. Yeah, my favorite.
I can't even read the text on it. My favorite is

Speaker 2 I only golf on days that end in Y. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. Something for your vision, you know.

Speaker 1 Maybe get a little board going. So I just thought you wanted a little something to get, you know, get the pieces flowing.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 This is all facts. I'm reading facts.
Yeah. Okay, PFT.

Speaker 2 My Fire Fest of the week is just basically that I've been in airports all week. I've just, I've become an airport user to the degree where I now recognize people that work at the airports.

Speaker 2 It's like I'm a local at the airports. They recognize me and they're like, welcome back, sir.

Speaker 5 You got any clubs? New club member? No.

Speaker 2 Well, here's the real Fire Fest is spending this much time in airports. And it's not like we haven't traveled at all as a podcast over the seven years that that we've been doing this show.

Speaker 2 I still don't have TSA pre-check, yeah, that's crazy, and I don't have a frequent flyer number.

Speaker 1 Well, you were, you were, you, and, you and Hank both were kind of riding on my coattails for a while.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when we booked, if we booked a flight all of us together, you would get pre-checked because I had pre-check, which feels like a pretty big loophole.

Speaker 2 It is, but but I've put off getting pre-checked for so long, which is more potent than the actual check, some say, because I don't

Speaker 1 have clear. So, if I have clear, but the the double is awesome.

Speaker 2 TSA pre-check on steroids. So now when they've instituted the double, where you get the pre-check plus clear.

Speaker 1 I cut the line of pre-check.

Speaker 2 And at certain airports, they have the clear-only station pretty much in Siberia. Right.

Speaker 2 Where you have to walk for like 30 minutes to get to this one sad room and then go with the other clear standard members through there.

Speaker 2 But it's been, I really should have had a frequent flyer number at some point, but I've reached the point where now I just think about all the miles that I would have had, and that makes me so upset that I kind of of refuse to get it now in the future.

Speaker 2 I'm like, well, I'm probably not going to travel anymore.

Speaker 1 This is a lesson, though.

Speaker 1 Our corporations in America just like, they get fat on, off guys like us who don't fill out paperwork, don't take vacations, don't get refunds, don't, you know, like if they, if, if they send me a voucher, I won't use it in time, all that shit.

Speaker 1 Like we are a dream when they do the whole, you know, graph and they say, these are the amount of people that won't actually opt in for these freebies.

Speaker 1 We're the poster child.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and when it comes to the frequent flyer numbers, I'm pretty sure that if you don't have one, the person who books your travel just puts theirs in.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and they're like, I'm gonna take those miles. So now, like, Spider is gonna be just traveling across all your country.
Yeah, he's got all my flyer miles for like seven years.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so I've just been in airports non-stop, but I've gotten really good. I've reached the point where now I get upset at people that don't know the rules as they're going through the line.

Speaker 2 I'm that traveler now, where I'm just like, come on, man. It's not that you don't have to take your shoes off.
You see that machine? That's that's a Letos machine.

Speaker 2 You don't need to do your shoes off for that.

Speaker 2 And actually, I was on a plane two days ago, and the flight attendant gave the big pregame speech of like, put your phones in airplane mode that you hear. You guys never follow that, right? No.

Speaker 2 I don't think I've ever put my phone in airplane mode, at least for the last six or seven years. No.
Nobody does. Never.
So I ignored it.

Speaker 1 They don't have a charger. Yeah, to save some battery.

Speaker 2 But I ignored it, as one does, and as everybody else on the plane does. And then about five minutes later, they get back on the intercom and they're like, hey, I'm serious.

Speaker 2 Not only do you guys can't have your phone on the data, everybody has to turn their phone off on this plane right now before we take off. And they were like serious about that.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 And I was looking around and everybody was just like, yeah, okay. So we all turned our phones off except for the guy next to me.
And I was about to dime him out. I was like, no, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 This guy. But I didn't.

Speaker 2 I wanted to because if they made, I don't want to fly on an airplane where the possibility that some guy is playing Candy Crush will result in the plane not taking off.

Speaker 2 And they made it sound like that. I'm pretty sure the dude was just on a power trip.

Speaker 1 Right. Because he definitely was.

Speaker 2 I've never had the double speech about, hey, I'm serious about putting your phones on.

Speaker 1 I think it's just they want you to pay attention. That's really what, because I remember, I mean, I think, did we ever do a Mount Rushmore of stupid things we thought as kids?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you've talked about the plane.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Game Boy basically controlling the plane. Also, I thought testicles were just Play-Doh in your nutsack.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure when you realize the moment that it's just because they want you to pay attention, you're just like, fuck this.

Speaker 2 I'm not paying attention. I used to think that if I got a boner, it meant I had AIDS.

Speaker 1 I mean, we actually.

Speaker 2 The AIDS scare was weird back when they shouldn't have been telling second graders, hey, you're going to get AIDS.

Speaker 1 I definitely thought, like, drinking a water fountain.

Speaker 2 Yeah, AIDS. I blame Magic Johnson.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's some fucked up

Speaker 1 standard going around.

Speaker 2 The awareness was raised too high. Yeah.
But yeah, so basically, I'm just a full-time traveler now. Yeah, that sucks.
But, you know, what are you going to do?

Speaker 2 It's been.

Speaker 2 It's been a very fast-paced last couple weeks. I'm looking forward to like just getting some sleep maybe this weekend.

Speaker 2 But the travel, people don't realize that travel, sitting down in a plane makes you so tired. Yeah.
And just sitting down in a cab makes you so tired.

Speaker 1 Dude, you got to do 10x health while you're on the plane.

Speaker 2 What is that?

Speaker 1 Every hour you get up and you go to the bathroom and you do 100 squats.

Speaker 1 It won't be annoying for anyone else. Only 100? Yes, it won't be annoying for anyone else on the plane.

Speaker 2 That's the Russell Wilson workout.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Start doing high knees in the aisle.

Speaker 1 Like, this is what I do when I, like, you have to have oxidized water, eat almonds. It's a whole thing that just makes traveling even worse than it already is, and it's the worst thing ever.

Speaker 2 That would actually rock because this is about a 45-minute flight from D.C. to New York.

Speaker 2 So get my workout in on that 45-minute flight, that would be like 100x.

Speaker 1 Dude, if Mark Cuban purchased my brain, I had the idea of dentists on airplanes. Just take care of all the bad things that you have to do in life on an airplane.

Speaker 2 It should be a gym on the airplane.

Speaker 1 Yes, there should be a gym. There should be a dentist.
You should be able to get your hair cut. You should be able to get your taxes done.

Speaker 1 When you get on an airplane, it should just be like, here's everything you've been putting off, fixing Hank's car, all that stuff.

Speaker 2 There should be showers on an airplane.

Speaker 1 There should be an auto repair shop on the airplane. Yep.
What? What are you looking at, Max?

Speaker 1 Max is a limited mindset kind of guy.

Speaker 2 No, just the showers one was weird, I thought.

Speaker 1 Why? Why? Because it was all.

Speaker 6 I think showers are nice.

Speaker 1 Well, after you...

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 No, you're talking about baths.

Speaker 2 You wish that there were...

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, baths.

Speaker 2 I'm talking showers. No, but he's right.

Speaker 1 The shower is nice. So it doesn't fit with doing the shit that you don't want to do

Speaker 2 on an airplane. There should be somebody with a hot water hose that just goes through the aisle, just sprays everybody down on the plane.

Speaker 5 No, the shower should be in a room with holes in the floor that you're standing on.

Speaker 2 And that's how rain gets made.

Speaker 1 And the water. Yeah, and the water just comes out.
So it's a double shower. You're showering on the people you're flying over, too.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 It's like Dave Matthews going over the Chicago Bridge.

Speaker 1 It would evaporate by the time it landed.

Speaker 2 Is that

Speaker 2 probably?

Speaker 1 Becomes a cloud.

Speaker 1 All right, my Fire Fest. It's a pretty simple one.
My daughter's birthday is coming up. We're doing a Moana-themed birthday party.
And I think

Speaker 1 I was trying to be a good father. I'm thinking about maybe dressing up like Maui, which is played by The Rock.
It's an animation. And I don't think I could pull it off.

Speaker 1 And I think that I'd scare all the children if I tried to do that because I'd have to put my shirt off.

Speaker 2 You just get the tattoos. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's one of those moments where it's like, hey, maybe you should get in shape for your kids.

Speaker 1 Not even so that you can live longer, just so you could dress up like Maui because that would be like a cool thing for me to do. So, I mean,

Speaker 2 I mean, this not as an insult. No, that's fine.

Speaker 1 You can insult me.

Speaker 2 Well, it's not about you. Okay.

Speaker 2 Max could pull off Moana.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 2 What's his name? Maui. Maui.
Max could pull off Maui like really, really well. Max.

Speaker 1 No, I couldn't. 200 bucks.
Does Maui have 200 bucks for one hour?

Speaker 2 Just come by and just entertain the kids.

Speaker 1 200 bucks one hour. Bring your club.
I'm negotiating right now. 300 bucks.
500 bucks. Okay, done.
But you have to be shirtless.

Speaker 6 That, like, that's way scarier. That's way worse.

Speaker 2 Dude, it's a compliment, actually.

Speaker 1 This dude's powerful. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 It's a great movie, by the way. It's in my head.
Also,

Speaker 1 I forgot, but like, Disney movies when we were growing up, they're all scary. I've been watching Little Mermaid.
Ursula is so fucking scary.

Speaker 2 Yeah, The Lion King is basically like a Shakespeare play where like there's murder and

Speaker 1 a lot of murder, really. I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's weird because I feel like they don't make the scary movies anymore for kids, but watching Little Mermaid, I'm like, dude, Ursula still gives me the freaks me out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Aladdin's pretty scary, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ursula, just like, she's fat and she's just mean. She is fat, Jake.
She is very fat. Ursula.

Speaker 1 She's very fat.

Speaker 5 What was the Russian one? Fantasia?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. That was a little bit past us.
That was

Speaker 1 Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Lion King.

Speaker 1 Am I missing one? Peter Pan.

Speaker 2 No, that was too early, I think.

Speaker 5 That was an Anastasia.

Speaker 1 Those were the big three.

Speaker 2 Fantasia was that was the musical one. Fantasia was also kind of scary.
It was a little bit scary. It had all the axes.
Yeah. You know, have you guys ever heard the theory about Frozen?

Speaker 1 No. Oh, yes.

Speaker 2 Why Walt Disney why they called the movie Frozen?

Speaker 1 I do, but tell it for the people.

Speaker 2 It's so that now...

Speaker 2 There was all these rumors out there, and it might be true, that Walt Disney froze his entire body, or at least his head, so it could be reanimated once they come up with the technology to bring people back to life and so they named the movie frozen so that people when they googled walt disney frozen body or walt disney frozen head the first page on google would just be filled with things about frozen the movie which is actually a genius yeah it's a smart move we should we should uh name this podcast chinless yeah and that way when hank has to shave his to soul patch you just find that instead of him this will be the episode chinless hank chinless i think it'll look good

Speaker 1 That's not true.

Speaker 1 That's just not true. I think you will, Hank.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 Not.

Speaker 1 You just fucking got you. Walk right into a knot.
Dude, you should have seen your face. You got fucking owned there.

Speaker 2 Billy, Firefest. No, like, honestly, if anybody I think would be handsome, I think it would be Hank with a soul patch.
Anybody in this room, I mean, you'd be the handsomest.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to respond.

Speaker 2 Sonk.

Speaker 1 Listen.

Speaker 1 I didn't respond, so you sunk.

Speaker 2 No, you did by saying I'm not going to respond.

Speaker 1 It's not like you've been, you know, spending a decade calling me fat, so I'll be nice when you have to get a soul patch.

Speaker 1 Okay, great. Great.
Great. I already have one.
Max is mad right now. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like, you're...

Speaker 1 Whatever. You're Jinxon.
All right.

Speaker 5 It's Friday, dude. Understand.

Speaker 5 The people listening to this is Friday.

Speaker 1 All right, Billy.

Speaker 2 So I got a small backyard, and every Friday, I have to weed it before I can, like, use it for the weekend because the weeds grow back in five days. It's insane.
Why do you have to weed it though?

Speaker 2 So that I can chill back there. You can't chill amongst the weeds? Because that's what makes it buggy.
Oh, okay. That's what brings the ticks out.

Speaker 5 Yeah. There's no way you've weeded that backyard more than twice.

Speaker 2 No, seriously, I've weeded it like every Friday. Billy, do you think that maybe

Speaker 1 weeds right now?

Speaker 2 Hypothetically, do you think that maybe one of those weeds that you spend so much time rubbing your arms and legs on has given you the rash that you've had for the past six months?

Speaker 1 Good question, PFT. No, I use gloves.

Speaker 2 But they still touch you. No, that's not it.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm just putting that out there.

Speaker 2 That's a good point. Putting it out there.
You might want to check. That's a good point.
That's a good point.

Speaker 1 Just an update, I have now purchased $200 worth of Maui costumes. A couple different sizes.
We're going to see how this goes.

Speaker 1 I'll update everyone. Why don't you just get the muscle suit?

Speaker 1 Well, there's a suit that you can wear, but it's going to be scary because I'm going to be fat and it's going to be... I'll send a picture when I do it, but I'm committed to it.

Speaker 1 Billy, so you're just weeding all the time in your backyard? Yeah,

Speaker 5 it's a nice activity, okay?

Speaker 2 It's kind of relaxing, but just keep they keep fucking growing.

Speaker 1 Well, that is what weeds do, like, but in five days,

Speaker 1 yeah, why don't you just get weed killer?

Speaker 2 Because that's bad for you.

Speaker 1 That's okay, facts.

Speaker 2 Look up atrazine.

Speaker 1 I don't, I'll take your word for it. It's agenorial.

Speaker 1 Like, it's an easy solution. You don't have to touch it, you just kill the weeds, they're gone.

Speaker 2 Just look up what Roundup does. Okay, all right,

Speaker 1 I trust you. Yeah, kills the weeds, you don't have to weed anymore.

Speaker 2 Also, thanks to everybody for the kind words.

Speaker 1 Oh, people like kind words, people like kind words. I told we told you that people would be fine with it.

Speaker 2 There was a lot of kind words, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 What was the meanest thing that was told?

Speaker 1 Oh, dude,

Speaker 1 it got bad.

Speaker 5 That was easy.

Speaker 1 I knew what they got said.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 just too bad. Yeah, I want want to hear the meanest shit that was said.

Speaker 1 Just give me one mean one.

Speaker 1 But I knew that the majority of AWLs would be nice about it.

Speaker 2 No, there was a majority.

Speaker 1 I almost don't want to say this because it might negate all the kind of things. Okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 5 You'll show it to me. Don't text me.
I don't want to highlight the negative. They text it to me.

Speaker 1 I want to laugh about it.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, finish this off.

Speaker 4 We have to redo the golf video.

Speaker 1 Which one? Because

Speaker 4 my fault we played by the wrong rules and alternate shot.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah. Fuck the people, dude.
That's not scramble.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the fuck any of this shit is. We just go out and golf, and it's funny.

Speaker 4 And it's my lane. I should have been on top of that.
I would take responsibility. You're supposed to tee off.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Jake, we're gonna, we're gonna do, whenever we make a golf video, my promise to the AWLs is we're gonna say that we're playing one way and then play the opposite way.

Speaker 5 Well, fucking doubt about that. Memes, fucking memes.
I was talking about that. I was like, yeah,

Speaker 5 I didn't realize that. We fucked up the rules.

Speaker 1 He's like, oh, I did.

Speaker 1 But I don't care.

Speaker 6 Which is a lie. He had no idea.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 5 He's like, I knew. I don't know.
He's like, I knew the whole time. I just didn't say anything.

Speaker 2 I actually blame Hank because Hank was competing in it. And so Hank knew that the rules were being broken and he still let it go on.

Speaker 5 No, no, no. I didn't realize.
I didn't know what a best, I didn't know what a best ball on a scramble was.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 As much as I knew what I was.

Speaker 4 No, I knew the difference between that, but the alternate shot, say someone, if Hank finishes a hole, Big Cat doesn't automatically care.

Speaker 1 No, I do

Speaker 1 care

Speaker 1 at all.

Speaker 1 I care very much just because we lost.

Speaker 2 I actually wouldn't care, but because we lost, this is a great outcome.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure if I'm my firefest, because the AWL certainly cared.

Speaker 1 And guess what I say to them? Don't care.

Speaker 1 I am going to make it my mission that we always say we're doing one rule, explain the rules, and play a different way just to make people upset.

Speaker 1 That's funny because, like, to watch a video and have us explain that we're playing it one way and then play a different way, which we consistently played the entire time, right?

Speaker 1 And then be like, oh, this video, how can I watch it? You said you were doing this. Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 I also think it's

Speaker 2 impossible to make a golf video with you not fucking up a rule somehow. Like, they will find something wrong with everything that you do.
This is what golf fans do when there's no U.S.

Speaker 2 Open where they can call in rules because some guy didn't tie his shoes in a bunker. They go to YouTube golf videos and they deputize themselves as like police officers.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're like, You know, actually, this is all fucked up. I'm calling the cops.

Speaker 4 I have a video coming out next week, and I had to pick up on a par three because I couldn't get out on a bunker. So I googled, like, what do I write down on my score before people come after me?

Speaker 4 Infinity.

Speaker 2 So I think an eight. You shot an infinity.

Speaker 1 Usually we play double

Speaker 1 applying for three-time worst score ever. On a part three.
I don't know. All-time worst round of golf ever.

Speaker 5 15.

Speaker 4 15.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So that's my fire fest. I screw up the rules, but don't care.

Speaker 1 Yeah. My fire fest is that you care.
Honestly, don't listen to anyone.

Speaker 4 No, but like I need to know for the rules too.

Speaker 1 Like we're going to be doing a lot of these videos. No, no, no, no.
Did you hear what I said? We're going to purposely screw up the rules

Speaker 1 just to make everyone even extra mad.

Speaker 2 I'm going to take three practice shots in a bunker.

Speaker 1 I'm going to actually practice. I saw this one guy shooting the other day where he basically picked it, like he picks up the ball like it's

Speaker 1 like Irish curling. Yeah.
And he like holds it on his

Speaker 1 golf club and then like launches it. I'm going to try to do that.
That would make people so mad.

Speaker 2 You know what? We should put in a rule.

Speaker 1 Oh, like to do that because you can't push the ball. I looked up the rule.
Who cares? I'm going to start doing that.

Speaker 1 It's like when I'm like 20 feet out, just grab a nice fucking sandwich and just like hold it. And then maybe even walk it to the hole and dunk it in.

Speaker 2 We should put in a rule where you can kick your shot. Like you can set up your next shot.
If you're like in the woods, you can get a one-legged swing and then you can try to kick the ball to safety.

Speaker 2 Dude. And then that's your next shot.

Speaker 1 We We should have

Speaker 1 one throw per hole. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Why not? That'd be a great video.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're in. Just to make.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Okay.

Speaker 1 Great show, everyone.

Speaker 1 Who has a... Oh, you have a soul patch right now?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I definitely do not have a soul patch right now.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's confirmed.
That's a fact. Same with me, P-Ball Paul.
Correct. And PFT.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Also, same with PFT.
There's only one person who has the possibility of a soul patch.

Speaker 1 That's That's a fact. Do I? Yeah.
It is also...

Speaker 6 Yes, right now there's...

Speaker 5 Do I have one, though?

Speaker 1 No, but I possibly could have one. You could have one.

Speaker 5 Do I, though? Do I have one or not?

Speaker 1 It's like a 50-50 chance. No, I hate it.

Speaker 2 Well, you have one, but you also have the rest of it surrounding it, at least. So, yes, you do have a soul patch.

Speaker 6 Correct. There is hair on that little.

Speaker 2 It might just not be like only a soul patch. Bonus Fire Fest, I have realized that me having a soul patch makes absolutely zero difference because people will just be like...
Correct.

Speaker 2 PFT's got shitty facial hair.

Speaker 1 Okay, you know what, though?

Speaker 2 More at news at 11.

Speaker 1 This is one of those things you had to find your own path. Yeah.
Because we told you this three weeks ago, but you had to find your own path.

Speaker 2 And I've known that I've been facebald for years, but ironically, the soul patch is the one thing that grows in true.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I told you, like, I think it might look more ridiculous than you guys think it'll look, but still, people will just be like, okay, you got bogus face.

Speaker 1 You already have it. It was, it was, like I said, when we, when it first came up, it'd be like, if I was like, hey, let's do a bet who can gain 10 pounds.

Speaker 2 Yeah, or a mustache pack.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Hank, have you ever gotten this? Nope.

Speaker 1 Have you ever gotten this? You've ever gotten this? No. Lottery ball? Nope.
Numbers. 17.

Speaker 1 Nice job, PFT.

Speaker 1 I'll go 99. Oh, let's go.

Speaker 1 Upfield 69.

Speaker 2 Let's go 17.

Speaker 2 Oh, I see 17 right there.

Speaker 1 That's a good position. Oh,

Speaker 1 the seats matter.

Speaker 2 You're going to get 17 anyways, huh?

Speaker 1 Huh? Oh my god! Oh, oh, my god!

Speaker 1 He got it! He got it! Hey, got it! It's six!

Speaker 1 He got it! Oh my god!

Speaker 1 First time ever for Hank! First time ever for number six! Go! Let's go! Thank you, PFT. There was stunned silence for a few seconds.
It's over. Thank you, PFT.

Speaker 2 At least the Celtics lost.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. What are you tweeting? You can't do it, Hank.
Oh my god, I'm putting on a song.

Speaker 1 Oh my god.

Speaker 6 The Sixers have to win tonight because

Speaker 6 he can't.

Speaker 6 How is he going to celebrate this show if...

Speaker 1 Oh my god.

Speaker 1 They finally backfired off.

Speaker 2 I think we got to get rid of this lottery ball machine. It's broken.

Speaker 1 What is this? Where did you dude? Open it up.

Speaker 1 What? Cute? You're not doing money anymore? No, you never gave me money. I gave you 200 bucks right away.
From the 2,500 I gave you. I won that.
I can't believe we got it. Oh,

Speaker 1 this sucks. This actually is the biggest fire fest ever.

Speaker 2 Hank, what do I owe you? I'll tell you, Hank.

Speaker 1 I'm heartbroken. What do I owe you, Hank? Did we just put on the shirts, too?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 Congratulations. I can't wait.
I hope if I see you and you're wearing one, and I can't fucking wait.

Speaker 2 Congratulations. Congrats on getting one lottery ball.

Speaker 1 That...

Speaker 1 Wow. He's all the way back.
He's all the way back. Let's calculate the probability of getting it once and how many times? That was the first time for his number six season.

Speaker 1 now 26 is the only number that's a nine wait that's that's a nine big cat

Speaker 1 oh that is a nine it's a nine that's a nine it's not a six that's a nine

Speaker 1 wait six is on no the line's under jake shut the fuck up damn it jake what the fuck is wrong with you jake hank was buying a lot no i mean i i know it's brutal oh my god jake was jake once he did the oh my god like

Speaker 5 That was a great call. One of your best.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 for people who are just listening, they probably thought it would be broken.

Speaker 2 Can we end the show when we thought it was number nine?

Speaker 5 There were no airwaves for like three seconds.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, this sucks. Good job, Hank.
I'm so happy for you.

Speaker 2 How are you going to celebrate?

Speaker 1 You fucking piece of shit. Congrats.
Dude, that's.

Speaker 1 Wow. This is actually.

Speaker 2 This makes tonight even crazier.

Speaker 2 It's an own on yourself that you're this happy about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's actually sad and happy for images.

Speaker 1 You guys know. No, no, no, no.
No, Hank, what a listeners are.

Speaker 5 I love the fans of the show. I love going out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we know.

Speaker 2 The fucking people

Speaker 5 coming up to me every two seconds and just whispering numbers in my ear, yelling numbers at me, driving past me on the street and yelling numbers, coming up to me in the grocery stores and be like, hey, have you ever gotten this?

Speaker 5 Like,

Speaker 5 I'm happy you listen to the show. I'm so happy.
I don't have to deal with that anymore.

Speaker 2 I think it's sad how much you're celebrating this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude, it's a number. It's a great storyline.

Speaker 2 You should have gotten this three years ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, you know what's worse?

Speaker 2 It's like graduating when you're 22 and everyone's like, oh my God, I can't believe that you're going to force me into getting it.

Speaker 5 Like, you could have, if you would just let me do my thing,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't have gotten it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's true. You're welcome.

Speaker 5 I know. I thank you forever.
That was one of the best things you've ever done for me. You're welcome.
And I knew because you picked 17, which I was.

Speaker 5 But then I know when someone else picked 17, my strategy was to pick one of the numbers that has been picked because the worst case scenario would have been if

Speaker 5 all the numbers had gotten picked and it would have been one more number down if you hadn't picked 17.

Speaker 2 Do you want me to grab your champagne?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yes, please.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 5 Actually, no, no, I'm not drinking champagne. I'm not drinking champagne.

Speaker 1 That would have been so great.

Speaker 1 God damn it.

Speaker 1 Almost got it.

Speaker 2 Me and Max.

Speaker 1 Me and Max almost got it. So, Hank, here's what we're going to do.

Speaker 2 Me and Max just had a moment where we looked at each other like, Hank's about to do the max champagne thing.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I almost got it.

Speaker 1 Hank, will so congratulations you've gotten it we'll keep doing this lottery ball I think what we should do is I'm gonna buy a bigger lottery ball machine for the Chicago office so we can start all afresh on uh

Speaker 1 on someone not getting it so we'll start afresh and maybe you'll be the first one to get that one this one it's sad I'm sad it's bittersweet no it's sweet no I know it's sweet for you you fucking piece of shit god damn it I'm gonna have a kid yeah that's right do you want to tell him now I'm going to have a kid, Hank.

Speaker 1 Are you fucking serious? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Anything you want to say to me?

Speaker 5 I don't know. This is fake.

Speaker 1 No, it's not. No.
It's only told me.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be a dad.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be a dad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also have cancer. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 2 Piquet's very, very sick.

Speaker 1 Oh, Billy already used his on that straight.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Congrats, Hank.

Speaker 1 It sucks.

Speaker 1 If the Celtics win this series now, Hank is, it's going to be the summer of Hank, and he's going to just own the whole summer.

Speaker 6 But if they lose tonight, is this a happy show or a sad show for Hank?

Speaker 1 Oh, he's definitely still sad. No, I have a fucking soul patch.

Speaker 1 I think the lottery ball is bigger.

Speaker 1 No, no, it's not bigger.

Speaker 2 Yes, I think the lottery ball was so much bigger than Celtics were.

Speaker 5 It's like, again, it's like going out with the soul patch, going out with the soul patch and having people yell numbers at you the whole time. That not having to be a thing is great.

Speaker 2 I think you just, I think you made a deal with the devil it's like the cursed monkey paw you can get a wish and you wish to get the lottery ball correct but the sacrifice that you have to pay is that your celtics are no i think god has been putting me through the ringer as a boston sports fan the last couple weeks

Speaker 1 and this is his way of showing me that we're on the way back up all right well hank i am actually there's a part of me that's i wanted you to get it eventually i just wish it had gone like five more years well it's just like you know like you love the storyline it's like he would have been one away from the lottery ball machine beating me if pft didn't pick 17.

Speaker 5 yeah that's crazy that would have been jake's been i would shit in my pants.

Speaker 2 Jake's been staring at me for the last 30 seconds, trying to figure out if I'm really going to be a dad.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can't figure it out. I'm kicking any of this.
I think we're all. Wait.
Aren't you way more concerned about my cancer?

Speaker 1 The fuck?

Speaker 2 A lot of cells dividing on the side of the table.

Speaker 2 I will be a dad.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be a dad.

Speaker 1 One day, or I love you guys.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 2 they're trying to clone the Tasmanian devil. Also, go to my Twitter if you want to see the craziest bear fight of all time, Billy Hottakes.

Speaker 5 It's pinched.

Speaker 1 Talk it away.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm to say. I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 1 Today is another day to find you shying away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love, okay. And

Speaker 1 faith,

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 all.

Speaker 1 I'll

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 in a day or

Speaker 1 two.

Speaker 1 So, needless to say

Speaker 1 I'm odds and ends,

Speaker 1 but that's me. I'm stumbling away.

Speaker 1 Slowly learning that life is okay. And

Speaker 1 say after me,

Speaker 1 it's no better to be safe than sorry. And

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 all

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 God

Speaker 1 in a tale

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 And all things that you say

Speaker 1 is it live or

Speaker 1 just to play my worries away.

Speaker 1 You're all the things I've got to remember. You're shying away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 on.

Speaker 1 I'll

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 in a day or

Speaker 1 two.

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 God

Speaker 1 in a day or two

Speaker 1 In a day or two

Speaker 1 Thank you so much. Thank you guys.
Thank you very much.

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