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Speaker 39 Today is Friday, May 5th, and the Golden State Warriors are back.

Speaker 7 The LA Lakers are dead.

Speaker 41 Dead. Dead, dead, dead.

Speaker 7 No, this was a can't-lose Warriors. Yeah, we'll get into the can't-lose, must-win dynamic, but it was a Clay Thompson game.
We got a Clay game.

Speaker 7 I have a fun stat for you, big guy, because I looked it up. Clay Thompson,

Speaker 7 when he scores 30 or more points, what do you think Golden State Warriors record was?

Speaker 43 Ooh.

Speaker 44 31 and 6.

Speaker 7 That's very disrespectful to Clay Thompson.

Speaker 6 I was going to say...

Speaker 14 Playoffs or just right?

Speaker 7 I think it's both. I think it's both.
I typed it into Google in the first result that came out.

Speaker 16 45 and 4.

Speaker 7 64 and 10.

Speaker 45 Wow.

Speaker 46 Pretty good.

Speaker 7 It's a little bit of a fake stat because it also probably implies that Steph Curry put in a lot of points too. Because there are a lot of games, I'm sure, where Steph Curry scores 30 or more.

Speaker 7 Clay doesn't, and they don't win as many of those games. But Clay is the key.
If he has a good game, and what, he went 8 for 11? Yes. 3 tonight.
Yes. They win when Clay Thompson scores.

Speaker 7 When he's the perfect amount of high for a game, when he takes the edible and times it out perfectly before the game and he goes off, the Warriors win those games.

Speaker 10 Well, and it was also very clear that the Lakers were trying to do tonight: basically not let Steph Curry shoot. And Steph Curry is good at passing.

Speaker 10 So, like, they were putting two guys on him, giving him no space, and he was just dropping dimes all across the court.

Speaker 14 Y.

Speaker 1 Clay also was open, hit threes.

Speaker 14 The Warriors are, you know, when they get to this level, when other guys are hitting shots and Steph doesn't have to score 35-40, they are very, very scary.

Speaker 16 And Draymond Green. Yeah.

Speaker 45 Great game from him.

Speaker 14 An assist shy of a triple-double.

Speaker 16 And I don't, maybe this is just the Lakers because it does feel like you had LeBron first half go like full old school LeBron.

Speaker 51 I think he had like 21 points or something at halftime. He was on fire.

Speaker 2 And Anthony Davis, we said this on Wednesday's show.

Speaker 21 It does feel like as Anthony Davis goes, the Lakers go.

Speaker 32 He is going to be, if he has an exceptional game, the Lakers are very, very hard to beat.

Speaker 53 He did not have an exceptional game tonight.

Speaker 19 So he had four turnovers.

Speaker 20 He only had 11 points.

Speaker 1 It feels like this is going to be a seven-game series.

Speaker 21 I'm very, very excited.

Speaker 16 Now, the question, PFT,

Speaker 16 I actually don't think the Lakers have to win game three.

Speaker 7 It's not really a desperation spot for them because they're so good.

Speaker 7 I mean, they've got guys, they've got two players on the team that could be the MVP if they play up to the levels they want to play at.

Speaker 1 They have championship medals.

Speaker 7 Yeah, exactly. They're a great team, and you can't panic.

Speaker 7 If you take yourself seriously as being a title contender, you can't make game three of a series. It's a seven-game series.
It's best of seven. You have to win four games.
Right.

Speaker 7 Going down 2-1, it happens, you know? It happens, and the great teams are able to bounce back.

Speaker 14 Right, right.

Speaker 10 Max just took off his headphones. We're going to talk to Sixers, Celtics in a minute.

Speaker 6 He's mad because we've told him that the Sixers have to win, must win game three.

Speaker 7 It's different. It's very different.

Speaker 58 The Lakers have been there.

Speaker 59 They've done the West Coast.

Speaker 53 Yeah, right. And LeBron's done it, and A.D.'s done it.

Speaker 2 They got guys like Austin Reeves.

Speaker 60 The Sixers don't have an Austin Reeves.

Speaker 7 No, they don't.

Speaker 61 So they're fine.

Speaker 7 It's interesting that you brought up Draymond's game tonight because we've laughed at Draymond's antics, as we will continue to do in the future.

Speaker 7 But I feel like Draymond is kind of what Ben Simmons was a couple years ago, in that if there wasn't a basket on the court, Draymond might be the best player on the basketball game.

Speaker 63 Yeah, but he was making some jumpers tonight, too.

Speaker 7 He does everything.

Speaker 7 Everything that he does is done with such a high level of intensity that even he's just he must be insane to go up against when he's playing defense on you because he feels like he's fouling you when he's just playing very hard defense.

Speaker 7 And he had a couple strips on Anthony Davis tonight where Davis just looked around and he was like, there's nothing I can do about that. He'll just get around you and slap the ball out of your head.

Speaker 10 And it's also, it's a very good, like, you can spot the casual when people are like Draymond's completely washed up because not only defensively, but their offense, like the amount of times where he'll get the ball at, at the three-point line and run their offense through him and he'll have an assist or he'll find someone.

Speaker 20 He is a very big part of their offense, even when he's not scoring.

Speaker 27 Tonight he was scoring.

Speaker 29 So the Warriors, this was, I expected this answer from the Warriors.

Speaker 9 We saw the stat last night.

Speaker 12 It's 15 in a row now, no, 16 in a row, I believe, where if the home team loses game one, they win game two.

Speaker 10 So you like a lot of these NBA playoff series and NHL, but like it's it's the desperation.

Speaker 14 When you get into desperation mode, when you're a home team down 0-1, you need to win game two, and you see it.

Speaker 8 Like the teams just come out and give their best performance.

Speaker 66 This was the best performance from the Warriors today.

Speaker 23 Now, I don't know.

Speaker 23 I think the,

Speaker 52 like, I can't decide who's going to win this series because I do still think the Lakers, when AD is on, pose some significant issues for the Warriors.

Speaker 29 I guess, yeah, it's going to be a great series. I I think it's going seven.

Speaker 7 I really do. We talked last time about how the Warriors, when they're not big enough to beat the Lakers, and it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter when they shoot like this.

Speaker 7 When either Clay or Steph goes nuclear, I don't think that there's anything that you can do to beat this Warriors.

Speaker 19 No, and they went, yeah, they were 52.5% from three today.

Speaker 10 21 for 40. It's pretty good.

Speaker 16 That's pretty damn good. That's pretty good.

Speaker 6 That's pretty damn good.

Speaker 49 Okay.

Speaker 32 A couple other things before we get to Sixers Celtics.

Speaker 10 I have a pre-fire fest, Fire Fest I just found out.

Speaker 25 We're in the hotel in Miami.

Speaker 67 We're all watching.

Speaker 14 We're what? Yeah, we're time traveling.

Speaker 11 We were watching the game.

Speaker 11 Memes was on the bed editing. I was laying next to him on the bed.

Speaker 27 Kind of cute.

Speaker 14 I looked over and

Speaker 10 I saw a picture of myself.

Speaker 24 And I was wearing spanks today. Video.
Well, it was a motion pill.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Why do you always say that? Why do you always correct us when we say that there's a picture of us that looks fat? And you're like, actually, it's a video. It's a habit that you have.

Speaker 44 What were you watching?

Speaker 35 Was it? It was actually a still.

Speaker 7 I'm just wondering. I'm just wondering why it's important to you.

Speaker 28 Because he wants to let everyone know that it's not a bad picture.

Speaker 7 It's real life. Okay, got it.

Speaker 53 That's what he's trying to say. It's not a bad angle.

Speaker 70 It's not a bad angle.

Speaker 26 You just are fat.

Speaker 23 And I know I'm fat, but I was wearing spanks today thinking I'd protect myself.

Speaker 19 And I was also leaning forward.

Speaker 49 And it looks like I have a full pillow underneath my shirt.

Speaker 26 So if you're watching on YouTube right now,

Speaker 42 comment.

Speaker 16 Yeah, it's not right.

Speaker 2 I need to never not not wear black shirts, black shirts for life.

Speaker 14 That's it.

Speaker 61 Uh, but uh, if you comment that I look fat, you're I already beat you to it.

Speaker 14 You're a pervert.

Speaker 7 Actually, you're unoriginal because Big Cat already is.

Speaker 49 I already said it.

Speaker 41 I'm fat and I look really fat.

Speaker 7 If anybody says it, just everybody let them know, like, hey, this joke is kind of played out now.

Speaker 50 Yeah, and it doesn't agreed.

Speaker 24 It doesn't help that

Speaker 14 Max and Checo are both like 140 pounds,

Speaker 19 but I'm just that much more of a man than them.

Speaker 54 That's true. So, what are you going to do?

Speaker 7 Checko's, he's.

Speaker 7 I towered over him. It was awesome.
Yeah. It's very rare that I get to.

Speaker 24 Very good, guys. Very good interview.

Speaker 14 The other last thing we had to talk about, which we forgot to talk about,

Speaker 14 Jackson Mahomes.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 74 So

Speaker 43 are we...

Speaker 6 We have to wait and see?

Speaker 7 I think we have to disavow.

Speaker 7 I want to say something very clear.

Speaker 7 I'm anti-sexual assault. I'm disavowing.
If you guys are going to cancel me for being anti-sexual assault, that's fine. I'm willing to die on that hill.

Speaker 45 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I am disavowing Jackson Mahomes.

Speaker 20 I am not disavowing Patrick Mahomes or the Mahomes family, just that particular piece.

Speaker 7 Could we say,

Speaker 7 for right now, hopefully he learns from his mistakes?

Speaker 50 Yes.

Speaker 78 But also that was a mistake that we disavow.

Speaker 7 Also, disavow.

Speaker 53 We're anti-Nazi,

Speaker 54 anti-sexual assault, anti-Los Angeles Sea Words, anti-Los Angeles Sea Words, anti-calling me fat, anti-lottery ball, anti-lottery ball.

Speaker 22 No, no, no, no, no, pro-lier anti-lottery ball because you can't get it.

Speaker 14 Anything else that we're anti?

Speaker 10 Oh, Max is anti-dog.

Speaker 38 Yep.

Speaker 46 Yep, you're anti-dog.

Speaker 62 No, you're anti-dog.

Speaker 80 I hope that mic was not.

Speaker 79 I don't know.

Speaker 79 That mic's not even.

Speaker 36 No, no, it's not.

Speaker 82 He said it's fake news.

Speaker 7 But Max's defense is he doesn't hate dogs. And

Speaker 7 after we did this conversation with Max earlier, I told him, Max, it's not so much that you hate dogs, it's that you don't love dogs.

Speaker 37 And that's almost worse.

Speaker 78 That's worse.

Speaker 46 You don't love dogs.

Speaker 61 Okay, all right.

Speaker 48 You do love dogs.

Speaker 29 Max, why's your drive your mic because we're going to kick it to ourselves?

Speaker 30 We'll get into it.

Speaker 3 We're going to get into the dog issue.

Speaker 59 Yeah, no, we are.

Speaker 3 We already, unfortunately, we already taped that portion of the show.

Speaker 21 So, yes, we are going to get into it.

Speaker 83 We'll let it out.

Speaker 7 But just to put a bow on everything, Big Cat,

Speaker 7 the Los Angeles Lakers, it's not a must-win for them next game, right? I just want to make that clear.

Speaker 39 Okay.

Speaker 14 Oh, last thing.

Speaker 10 Leafs are in big time trouble.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they're fucked.

Speaker 42 They're big time trouble.

Speaker 7 I mean, game three is a must-win for the Leafs.

Speaker 16 Yes, yes, I would say so.

Speaker 19 And if that, game four will definitely be a must-win.

Speaker 45 Yeah.

Speaker 10 But yeah, the Leafs are in big time trouble.

Speaker 66 It was nice that they won a series, but they look.

Speaker 7 They won the first five minutes of this game handily.

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And 2-0, most dangerous lead in hockey.

Speaker 20 That's very true. Hank, are you rooting for the Panthers to win the cup?

Speaker 30 Because I think that would

Speaker 14 lessen the blow a little bit.

Speaker 3 If you lose to the champion, it makes it a slightly less choke.

Speaker 29 Still a choke, but a slightly less choke.

Speaker 83 Yes.

Speaker 31 But I'm rooting for. I'm rooting for the Oilers.

Speaker 44 I'm rooting for the Oilers. Yeah, Jake.
I hope it's Panthers, Oilers, and the Oilers win.

Speaker 43 Okay.

Speaker 44 I don't know why. I just.

Speaker 74 Connor McDavids. Yeah.
It's fun.

Speaker 58 I think I'm late night games.

Speaker 59 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 30 Late night games.

Speaker 22 Kraken, though. Kraken's fun.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Okay.

Speaker 53 You hate Seattle.

Speaker 13 You hate Seattle.

Speaker 54 You despise Seattle. No, I love Seattle.

Speaker 44 Yeah, no, you despise Seattle. I wish they had some sports fans out there.

Speaker 54 Max wants to talk again.

Speaker 60 He turned his mic on finally.

Speaker 85 No, I was just going to wait till you finished. I was just going to talk about how much I love dogs.

Speaker 42 Yeah, but that's not true.

Speaker 58 No, it is.

Speaker 85 I love dogs so much. I thought you were allergic.

Speaker 64 No, I'm slightly allergic to some dogs. I wasn't allergic to Brody.

Speaker 73 Are you like actually

Speaker 64 at halftime yesterday,

Speaker 64 which there was no cameras rolling?

Speaker 19 When you say you're allergic, do you mean like you sneeze or you're allergic?

Speaker 6 Like, I can't be around him because I don't like him.

Speaker 64 No, I sneeze.

Speaker 64 With some dogs, I sneeze.

Speaker 51 Sounds like you don't, sounds like your body is repulsed by dogs.

Speaker 56 That was horrible.

Speaker 74 That's a fact.

Speaker 67 No, your body can't handle dogs.

Speaker 83 I love dogs.

Speaker 38 Everyone knows that allergies are not something.

Speaker 19 Allergies are things people can control.

Speaker 85 I can control that. I love dogs, and I'm done with you.

Speaker 72 Okay,

Speaker 7 if you say, I'm allergic to some dogs, that to me sounds like a pre-excuse. If you just don't want to feel like hanging out.

Speaker 9 You're like, oh, my nose tickles.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you know, I'd like to come over and scratch your dog's chin, but unfortunately, some of the times i i get i break out in hives yeah actually now that i think about it when we started stello blue max was like do we really have to give money to the dogs shut up

Speaker 69 shut up

Speaker 7 i mean he he probably has a michael vick jersey

Speaker 82 he definitely has a phillies yeah he would not have a michael vick jersey did you ever cheer for michael vick i i loved michael vick okay there we go

Speaker 16 i'm anti-dog his time on the show yeah me too um all right so we're gonna kick it to ourselves we've got some great interviews coming up.

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Speaker 14 And we're going to root for Logan Sargent on Sunday.

Speaker 50 And he's American Racer.

Speaker 44 Yes, facts. And we filmed at Dave's house last night to love a supercut of Max not petting the dog.
Yes. In the vlog next Thursday.

Speaker 7 Okay. It's just the entire video.

Speaker 50 Love it. Yeah.

Speaker 44 And nope. And an interview with Logan Sargent.

Speaker 22 Yes.

Speaker 78 Yes.

Speaker 19 Okay.

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Speaker 32 Quick before we get to Sixers Celtics.

Speaker 8 How cool was Logan Sargent?

Speaker 28 I came to Miami a little later than you guys. You guys hung out with him.

Speaker 7 Very cool guy.

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Yeah.

Speaker 7 Look for that. He coached us up on the racing simulator.
Really good dude. Also, AWL.

Speaker 78 Oh, hell yes.

Speaker 19 And I'm going to be watching the race rooting for him.

Speaker 24 Specifically him

Speaker 91 on Sunday.

Speaker 7 He said he's shooting for Q1.

Speaker 7 So Q1. That's the goal.
It was always Q1.

Speaker 20 It was always Q1.

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Speaker 68 Okay.

Speaker 54 Celtic Sixers, game two.

Speaker 7 Oh, man. Hank is already serving looks.

Speaker 10 Don't want to say the old, don't want to say it told you so, but I told you so.

Speaker 16 Max, you got absolutely demolished.

Speaker 32 Your shit pushed in.

Speaker 93 Your teeth kicked in.

Speaker 43 Walked.

Speaker 8 Dog walked off the floor.

Speaker 46 Didn't even pet a dog.

Speaker 94 Didn't even pet a shit.

Speaker 78 That was bad.

Speaker 22 No, no.

Speaker 7 That dog

Speaker 7 just wanted you to love it, and you just looked away.

Speaker 64 That was like a Kobe angle thing of like, I couldn't see that too smooth.

Speaker 56 No.

Speaker 64 Angle, like, you know, the Kobe angle. Angle.

Speaker 61 A Kobe angle.

Speaker 58 Are you doing the TMZ pictures, Max?

Speaker 41 What the fuck?

Speaker 64 You know, when Kobe doesn't flinch, when the ball is like coming at his face, Matt Barnes.

Speaker 61 So you say Matt Barnes.

Speaker 7 You did scratch the dog. I didn't see you scratch it.

Speaker 44 For context, we watched at our boss's house.

Speaker 96 Timeout for Max. You need a 20-second timeout.

Speaker 59 He has.

Speaker 97 Dude, that was a bad start.

Speaker 58 No, that was.

Speaker 64 What was going on in my head made sense? The Kobe, Matt Barnes.

Speaker 59 Okay, all right. Bad start.

Speaker 58 Take a 20-second timeout.

Speaker 14 Let's just talk.

Speaker 37 We'll just start with the facts.

Speaker 7 How about that? We'll start with the facts. There was a dog on the couch next to Max watching the game.
It wanted so much for max to love it and max just wouldn't give the time a day max

Speaker 7 so that's just the fact and now

Speaker 62 while max was not petting the dog he was watching the sixers get absolutely demolished uh joel and bead looked old tired injured injured injured the big three james harden also tired i told max after game one Doc Rivers should sit and bead and James Harden.

Speaker 2 He didn't listen to me.

Speaker 10 Max, that is. Neither did Doc.

Speaker 14 A little stat for everyone.

Speaker 93 Jalen Brown started becoming the primary defender on James Harden in 28 half-court sets that Jalen Brown was guarding James Harden. James Harden scored.

Speaker 44 No points. One point.

Speaker 74 One point. One point.

Speaker 14 One point.

Speaker 10 It felt like the Celtics asserted themselves as the team you thought you'd see in game one.

Speaker 10 We now. Objection.

Speaker 44 That point shouldn't even count because it was a free throw. Jalen Brown didn't even get to defend him on it.

Speaker 14 Well, he probably followed him.

Speaker 44 You never know that. But still.

Speaker 99 I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

Speaker 29 Max, we will tag you back in and we'll start with this.

Speaker 75 Game three is a must-win for the Sixers.

Speaker 64 No, it is not a must-win.

Speaker 64 Yeah, you guys keep fucking saying this.

Speaker 7 No, Max, I'll lay it out to you very much.

Speaker 59 It's Matt. It doesn't.

Speaker 77 Wait, no, this is stupid.

Speaker 64 You guys already started saying this yesterday, and it doesn't make any fucking sense.

Speaker 97 All right, timeout.

Speaker 62 Every game in the playoffs. Max win.

Speaker 7 You're in timeout. That's a champion.

Speaker 64 You said game two was not a must-win.

Speaker 59 But no, no, it was three.

Speaker 100 It was a must-win.

Speaker 64 The Celtics played game two like it was a must-win.

Speaker 65 That's a simple math situation.

Speaker 7 Math, Matt, Max, will you listen to math? Okay. Okay, just these are facts only.

Speaker 39 Okay.

Speaker 7 So, fact or fiction, since you guys won game one,

Speaker 7 if you guys win every other game, you win the series. If you lose two games in a row at any point in this series, you will probably lose.
Fact or fiction.

Speaker 71 The probably

Speaker 102 if you win every other game of the series, you win.

Speaker 64 Yes. If you win every other game of the series, you win.

Speaker 7 So if you win game three, then game four is not a must-win anymore. Then you win game five.
Correct. Then game six isn't a must-win.
Then you win game seven. Max.

Speaker 45 Boom. Championship.

Speaker 52 Here's where it makes perfect sense.

Speaker 54 You just got beat by 30 points with Joelle Ombi back on the court.

Speaker 64 But he was working his way back in. It was like a minor league start.
It was a rehab start.

Speaker 34 Okay, well, he looked bad.

Speaker 62 He looked bad. Okay.

Speaker 64 He's going to look so much better tonight. How much better? He's going to drop at least 35.

Speaker 58 You say it happened. At least 35.

Speaker 1 Losing by 30 is not good.

Speaker 64 Bucks lost by 42 game two of the second round when they won the finals.

Speaker 75 Okay, you fell for that trap. Giannis, the rest of that series went 34 and 13.
Yeah.

Speaker 53 Is that what Embiid's going to do?

Speaker 64 Yes.

Speaker 64 You're talking about the guy who averaged that in the regular season.

Speaker 56 Regular season.

Speaker 38 Okay, but

Speaker 93 here's my biggest point about game three being a must-win. If you win game three,

Speaker 104 all the pressure's back on the Celtics.

Speaker 2 If you lose game three, the Celtics basically can say, we don't have to win game four.

Speaker 93 If we lose game four, it's a three-game series with us having home court.

Speaker 49 So what happened yesterday?

Speaker 44 That's what the Celtics won by third.

Speaker 10 And the Celtics.

Speaker 64 The Sazers looked at that game like it wasn't a must-win game and they shouldn't have looked at it that way, but that's what happened.

Speaker 1 Exactly. So game three is now a must-win for the Celtics.

Speaker 64 It is a hard-fought game that they lose, then that is fine. And then they come back and win game four.

Speaker 64 This is the same exact thing that Hanks did.

Speaker 7 This is future Max talking.

Speaker 83 Not on the record. A must-win.

Speaker 42 This is on the record. It's a must-win.

Speaker 37 It on the record.

Speaker 34 If you said lose two, it's not a must-win.

Speaker 53 If you lose game three, you lose the series.

Speaker 64 No. I honestly, there's a part of me that wants to lose game three.

Speaker 77 I then come back and win the series because you fuckers are making me so angry.

Speaker 7 Which part of you wants to lose game three?

Speaker 64 Like, like just the part to like look at your fucking face and be like, we lost game three.

Speaker 16 Well, I've been very much on the record with what I'm rooting for this series.

Speaker 3 I'm rooting for it's alternate wins until we get to game seven.

Speaker 32 So we can see like Wednesday's show, Hank was as down in the dumps as you can get.

Speaker 10 Friday's show, Max is being aggro-max, where he's just needs 20-second timeout, five seconds into the game.

Speaker 104 Uh, and I wanted to just flip-flop back and forth so these guys have to deal with it, and then get to game seven and have game seven.

Speaker 65 I don't care who wins, but I want it to be as controversial as possible where the loser can be like, we got screwed.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Max, he cracked all of his knuckles within the first like 10 seconds.

Speaker 8 He's gonna fight.

Speaker 97 He wants to find him.

Speaker 7 He's trying to find more knuckles to crack because he's so angry right now.

Speaker 64 I want you guys to feel my hands and how much they're sweating right now.

Speaker 47 Oh, that was almost badass for a second.

Speaker 7 Yeah, feel my hands.

Speaker 79 Yeah, I want you to feel the power of my hands.

Speaker 64 So they are drenched in sweat because I'm just perspirating anger out of their eyes.

Speaker 7 Max, so you have a point, which is Embiid looked like shit last night, right? He looked like shit. He can't look any worse than shit.

Speaker 22 Oh, I'm top.

Speaker 42 I disagree. He can tell you.

Speaker 7 But he looked worse as the game went on. So would you say

Speaker 7 did he get healthier as the game went on?

Speaker 64 No, but he hadn't played in 10 days.

Speaker 64 He hadn't practiced in 10 days how many games has embedded in the playoffs four he played two and a half no he played three he played three full games he so this is his fourth game correct but he hadn't played in 10 days fun fact he hadn't moved in 10 days kawai leonard has more made field goals in these playoffs than joel embied i don't care

Speaker 83 i don't care

Speaker 64 that's a fun fact you're also forgetting that Embiid dominated the paint in the first half yesterday.

Speaker 77 He did.

Speaker 64 He made the Celtics look like children trying to get layups at their own.

Speaker 58 He had had a 10-point lead at half.

Speaker 64 I mean, we weren't making shots.

Speaker 77 I wouldn't say that. Sometimes you don't make shots.

Speaker 103 Sometimes you make shots. He's not.

Speaker 7 On defense, he dominated.

Speaker 64 Yes, he did. And it's not like he was missing shots.
He just wasn't taking any.

Speaker 58 It's not like he was choking. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 7 He wasn't missing shots because he was turning the ball over before he had a chance to shoot. Yes.

Speaker 44 You know who was missing shots.

Speaker 64 James Harden missed a lot of shots.

Speaker 7 Correct. There was something, there was some monkey business going on with that rim, too.
Yeah. There was some weird rim in.

Speaker 62 I'm not going to say it again. Say it again.

Speaker 7 Say it again.

Speaker 20 Say it again. No, I know what he's gonna say.

Speaker 66 You want me to say it for you?

Speaker 6 I'll say it for him.

Speaker 93 We got in the car after we were watching the game, and Max said to me, if James Harden's first three that rattled around the rim had gone in, different game.

Speaker 7 They win. Different game.
I agree. You know what? I agree.

Speaker 73 Lost by 24. They win, but it's a different game.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 56 Yeah,

Speaker 56 they would lose by 24.

Speaker 47 It's a different game.

Speaker 7 So, Max, during the game, I was telling you, I was trying to coach you through it because you went through all the different emotions.

Speaker 44 How to pet a dog.

Speaker 7 Well, I mean, this was, Well, you can't teach a man how to pet a dog.

Speaker 47 No, you're not a dog.

Speaker 7 It's in your heart at that point.

Speaker 85 I mean, Docs, no.

Speaker 7 You should have lost that game like the Bucks smartly did by 40 points. Because if you lose by 40 instead of 30, then you're like, fuck it.
That's an aberration. Let's burn the tape and move on.

Speaker 7 But you lost by like a believable amount of points in a blowout.

Speaker 64 It was an aberration. That game will not happen again.

Speaker 44 So win or lost.

Speaker 75 You aren't saying that with your chest.

Speaker 64 Yes, I am.

Speaker 64 We will not see the Sixers look like that again in this playoffs.

Speaker 47 Okay.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Doc Rivers is going to coach the boys up.

Speaker 109 Okay.

Speaker 61 Playoff doc. Game two is a must-win.

Speaker 49 No.

Speaker 64 Game two is not a must-win.

Speaker 64 Well, game two was a must-win for the Celtics. It's a good thing they won because it was a must-win.
Yeah. It was a must-win game for the Celtics.

Speaker 81 I agree.

Speaker 44 I'm going to go on the record every game from now on. It's a must-win for the Celtics.

Speaker 7 So what happens if you lose a game?

Speaker 44 Yeah. The next game's a must-win.
If it's a must-win. Next game after that, must-win.

Speaker 64 Must-win means the series is over if you don't win that game.

Speaker 20 So every game game game game.

Speaker 42 That's probably a can't lose then.

Speaker 59 You can't lose game three.

Speaker 7 You definitely can't lose.

Speaker 34 Game three, if you lose game three, that's a

Speaker 64 no, you're trying because then you're going to paint me in this picture of like, oh, you already said the series is over.

Speaker 23 These are the moments where that's what must win.

Speaker 28 We were saying it before, but these are the moments where, like, there's definitely some F1 fans that are listening to the show just for the interviews, and they're listening to our conversation right now.

Speaker 29 And they're like, What are these guys doing?

Speaker 7 Yeah, what's quescés le de France?

Speaker 59 How did these guys get popular?

Speaker 61 They are talking in circles.

Speaker 23 Uh, Final ruling can't lose game three.

Speaker 3 Not a must-win.

Speaker 73 No, you will not get me to say that.

Speaker 22 At home?

Speaker 78 There's not a lot of people who are going to be able to do that.

Speaker 79 They have to win one in these next two.

Speaker 64 I will agree. They have to win one of these next two.

Speaker 10 I would say they have to win one of these next three.

Speaker 64 Well,

Speaker 64 that would be a fact. But I'm willing to say you have to win one of the next two.
If you go down 3-1, 3-1, you're fucked.

Speaker 64 If you go down 2-1, if you go down 2-1, you guys are going to get gentlemen sweeped.

Speaker 7 It's going to be 4-1.

Speaker 83 Fuck off. This game is not.

Speaker 59 Yes.

Speaker 7 If you lose this game, you might as well lose three games in a row.

Speaker 29 Okay. Any last words from this game?

Speaker 52 The drone was insane.

Speaker 18 I cannot believe they have a drone in the past.

Speaker 7 I hated the drone. Whose idea was that to fly the drone in the middle of the camera and then just cover up the plays just so we could get like one shot that looked like a video game?

Speaker 7 It was pretty good.

Speaker 56 It looked cool.

Speaker 47 I was like,

Speaker 61 when we were watching, I was like, why is there a drone there?

Speaker 29 And it took everyone for a second to adjust their eyes.

Speaker 50 Like, wait, wait, why is there a drone there?

Speaker 29 It made no sense.

Speaker 7 It was weird. Joe Mazzullo, we should give him credit, right? He was pissed off after the game.

Speaker 7 He said, How come nobody's asking me about my adjustments that I made? Right.

Speaker 61 You guys don't want to talk about that?

Speaker 104 It looked like the Celtics played with a lot more defensive intensity.

Speaker 54 Jason Tatum was not good, and they still won by 24.

Speaker 28 Marcus Smart, like, he basically looked in the mirror and was like, yeah, I am him.

Speaker 35 And he came out and played a great game.

Speaker 53 Yeah, the Celtics. Marcus Mart will never shoot like that again.
That's fact.

Speaker 7 That's fact. Okay.

Speaker 7 That's probably true.

Speaker 45 Gotta be true.

Speaker 55 You gotta hope, unfortunately, James Harden probably will shoot like that again, two for 14.

Speaker 34 Okay, I'm done with the whole James Harden talk.

Speaker 64 No, I'm done with the whole James Harden talk. He had a bad game, but then you can't just negate what he did in game one.

Speaker 45 Of course not.

Speaker 110 Yeah.

Speaker 64 So you can't just immediately be like, oh, yeah, he's back to two of 14 after what he did in game one because he can just as easily go back to that in game one and game three.

Speaker 93 But sustaining

Speaker 76 excellence is why you win. That's why you win.

Speaker 64 Sustaining excellence is fantastic. I hate your little,

Speaker 64 the way you're just smiling and moving your hands.

Speaker 61 But, Max, this is how it works.

Speaker 32 On Wednesday's show, PFT and I were going after Hank, and you got to sit there and laugh along.

Speaker 23 Now we're going after you, and Hank gets to laugh along.

Speaker 47 This is how it works.

Speaker 3 This is why I wish this series was a best of 99.

Speaker 58 We're just watching it for the next six months. I wish it was a championship.

Speaker 64 I have one more thing to say.

Speaker 76 Oh, it is Max's championship.

Speaker 85 I have one more thing to say that I'm very passionate about.

Speaker 64 I am done hearing about the MVP.

Speaker 70 I'm done hearing about the MVP.

Speaker 78 Whoa, congrats.

Speaker 77 Because

Speaker 64 there was so much joy and cheering over the MVP when we had a

Speaker 64 playoff series to play that night.

Speaker 52 Would you say it was like they drank the champagne before they won anything?

Speaker 64 Yes, it looked like they were drinking champagne. We're going to go home on Friday.

Speaker 41 Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 7 Max, in your opinion, how should they have celebrated Joe Ellen Bi winning the MVP?

Speaker 64 No, I mean, it's like, it was just too much. talking about the MVP.
We've been waiting for this moment for so long. Like, I'm so happy.
It's like, okay, I get it.

Speaker 64 The MVP is great, but we have a ball game to win. and you need to focus on game two and not just keep celebrating the MVP and then get smoked by 40.

Speaker 7 I've never heard somebody say the word joy with as much anger in their face as Max just did. There's no

Speaker 58 social media.

Speaker 59 No joy in Mudville.

Speaker 34 Joe won the MVP.

Speaker 64 I'm very happy that Joe won the MVP. I am very mad with the way that they came out after he won the MVP.

Speaker 74 Good.

Speaker 42 Put it behind you.

Speaker 77 Go on to Friday.

Speaker 64 Get back into this series.

Speaker 7 Give it to Jokic.

Speaker 75 But if you lose it, wait, but I'm pretty sure Friday night is when Adam Silver is going to give him the trophy.

Speaker 107 That's how it works.

Speaker 58 But

Speaker 85 the crowd will get behind that, though.

Speaker 42 Yes.

Speaker 63 No, the crowd. No, they're going to cheer.

Speaker 77 That's the other thing. We're on the road.

Speaker 77 We split two games on the road. No matter how you look at it, a win is a win, and a loss is a loss.

Speaker 64 You went into Boston and you took home court, and no one's talking about it.

Speaker 78 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 46 All right.

Speaker 77 That was a good away stretch for the city.

Speaker 7 You finally talked yourself into a good point and got angry enough to make some sense, which is if you had told Max like a week ago that you'd be leaving Boston with a 1-1 split, you would have taken that, right?

Speaker 77 100%. And I could keep saying that.

Speaker 7 But if you lost by 30 points in the second game, which is- Don't care.

Speaker 77 Win is a win, loss is a loss.

Speaker 78 Okay.

Speaker 52 What about losing game three?

Speaker 112 Have to win game three.

Speaker 64 Don't. Have to win one out of the next two.
Okay.

Speaker 7 Max almost wants to see them lose the next game, as a matter of fact.

Speaker 64 No, I don't. I really would like to see them win, but I also would like to say something.

Speaker 59 So, Hank, he really pointed at me there.

Speaker 7 Hank's been super quiet. I know that there have been a million thoughts running through your head through this entire conversation.
You get the floor, Hank.

Speaker 44 Game three is a must win. We got to just take control of the series, win by 30 again, kill Philly's will to live, and just, you know, end this series quickly.

Speaker 44 I don't want seven games. I don't want six games.
Five games. Gentleman sweep starts tonight.
Must win.

Speaker 32 Given the fact that they're going to give Joe Embiid the MVP trophy in Philadelphia on Friday night, would you say if Philly was a good sports town, they would boo that because they should stop celebrating and move on?

Speaker 44 Yeah, I don't even think they would stand up.

Speaker 74 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 7 Take out newspapers and pretend like you're reading them instead of

Speaker 65 you're kind of crying right now, Max.

Speaker 64 I'm not crying. I'm just thinking.

Speaker 64 I wasn't listening to what Hank had to say.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you were because you almost came up to the mic halfway through it.

Speaker 64 No, because I was just thinking about something Hank. Hank is just so confident right now, even though before the game yesterday, he was like, there's going to be a Lakers Celtic Sixers final.

Speaker 22 There's going to be a Lakers-Sixers final.

Speaker 64 That's going to be my worst nightmare.

Speaker 44 It would be. I did not say that.

Speaker 44 I didn't say there's going to be. I just said

Speaker 44 in a world where there's a Lakers, doesn't matter. I didn't say this year.
Just any world where it's Lakers-Sixers, I would cease to exist as a human being.

Speaker 54 Well, no, once LeBron leaves, it doesn't.

Speaker 51 It's not as bad.

Speaker 44 Not as bad. Yeah.
Still bad. Yeah.

Speaker 43 But if it was, yeah.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 23 Thank you, Max.

Speaker 53 Good job, Max.

Speaker 23 Good luck on Friday night. Can't lose.

Speaker 10 Can't lose. Yeah, we'll do a fire.

Speaker 104 Max, you'll have a fire fest. Have a fire fest, Max.

Speaker 10 all right, other news: Coach Bud got fired.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, it's tough.

Speaker 104 It's tough. He gets to take a timeout with him.

Speaker 59 Yeah,

Speaker 61 that's kind of cool.

Speaker 7 I mean, it goes to show you just how like short-term a lot of people's memories are when it comes to the ownership because he's a very, very good coach. He's going to get hired by somebody.

Speaker 7 Like, somebody's going to be very, very lucky to have him. Yes.
And for whatever reason, it just didn't work out at the end. It did.

Speaker 7 And it was tough, like, the news that came out after the series was over about what he was going through during the games. Yeah.
About his brother.

Speaker 42 Yeah, it was not, it wasn't great.

Speaker 7 You can forgive him for his head being in a different place.

Speaker 28 Here's a fun fact that I love these fun stats that don't, they sound cool when said, but when you actually look into it, it's not that cool.

Speaker 32 Every NBA coach besides Steve Kerr that's won a championship since 2015 got fired.

Speaker 7 That is a cool stat. But it's not,

Speaker 7 wait, let me look into it.

Speaker 54 Who else got fired? It's Bud, Nick Nurse, and Tylu.

Speaker 47 Okay. So, yeah.

Speaker 30 It's one of those stats that's hidden under the fact that Steve Kerr has four champions

Speaker 44 and the Lakers.

Speaker 18 Oh, and Vogel.

Speaker 39 Yes.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but that doesn't count.

Speaker 42 Yeah, that was a bubble. Our friend.

Speaker 60 You almost just said that the Lakers won a championship.

Speaker 7 Our friend Buddha Ben. He's running with the theory right now that the bubble did not even exist, that it was all AI, computer-generated.

Speaker 46 So look into that.

Speaker 42 Ben's on it.

Speaker 54 Yeah, let's get our best guy out.

Speaker 44 Sounds credible, yeah.

Speaker 7 Buda Ben is our best guy.

Speaker 53 He is our best guy. He's the best guy.

Speaker 75 Maybe tag team Mike the bike and we're ready to go.

Speaker 14 We also had, so a couple other NBA stories.

Speaker 75 We talked about the MVP. We also had the weirdest story ever written in the Denver Post.

Speaker 20 The writer who wrote about Jokic being the real MVP, he wrote, so this is Mark Kisla wrote, sorry, Mr. Joel Embiid, but we all know Nicola Jokic is real MVP of Everyday Budweiser drinking peeps.

Speaker 29 He said peeps.

Speaker 29 Yeah. He said peeps.

Speaker 10 And so he talked about

Speaker 48 Jokic being a cool guy, awesome guy, great leader.

Speaker 15 And then we got to a very weird paragraph where he said, I am not ashamed to admit to spending so much time in the Denver locker room waiting for Jokic to shower, dress, and share his self-deprecating pearls of wisdom that I know this man has wicked, funny taste in boxers.

Speaker 14 Underneath the fine and stylish European attire he wears into the arena, Jokic sports wacky underwear that on any given night colorfully celebrate Budweiser, Budweiser, the king of beers, or might be adorned with the face of

Speaker 10 SpongeBob square pants.

Speaker 10 After silencing Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, and the Grousing Sons, who seem to have a beef with a ref after every whistle, Jokic slipped into silly boxers that proclaimed, That's what she said across his booty.

Speaker 7 Classic, classic joke. So that's his secret to his MVP seasons: he wears funny boxers.

Speaker 114 He basically was like, Jokic didn't win a third straight MVP, but he's the champion of the people because everyone's, no one knows this, but I know it because I stalk him every night after the game that he has funny boxers.

Speaker 7 He's the most valuable underwear. Yes.

Speaker 7 It was a bizarre article. Very bizarre.
Really strange.

Speaker 7 But you know what? He spends more time around them than I do. So maybe there is something to it.
I don't know. Jordan, he wore the same shorts.
underneath his shorts every game. Yeah.

Speaker 7 He wore UNC athletic shorts as boxers.

Speaker 7 I bet Kevin Durant wears whitey tighties. Yeah.
I could definitely see that.

Speaker 92 See a little stain on him.

Speaker 84 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 24 Very bizarre.

Speaker 75 Very bizarre that Jokic should have won the MVP because he wears hilarious boxers.

Speaker 20 But yeah,

Speaker 20 that was the big response for Embiid winning from Denver.

Speaker 7 I actually thought that the best basketball was being played in Denver by the mascot. Did you see Rocky's shot? Yes.
It was fucking insane. Yes.
Mascots are more athletic than NBA players.

Speaker 7 I stand by that take. So Rocky, the Denver Nuggets mascot, he's like a cougar or mountain lion or whatever.

Speaker 7 He set up a giant ladder at half court and then climbed that ladder, put another ladder on top of it, climbed up to the top of that ladder, and then took the ball like he was going to shoot a half-court shot.

Speaker 7 And then at the last minute, threw it backwards over his head and it went in in the other basket. Swish.
Damn. It was fucking unreal.

Speaker 7 When you look back on the NBA, I think you can make a case that, was it Benny the Bull?

Speaker 56 Benny the Bull.

Speaker 7 Benny the Bull, outstanding athlete, the Phoenix Gorilla, maybe the best basketball player of all time. And then Rocky is this generation's.
Yep. What's that, Hank? Lucky.
Lucky the leprechaun?

Speaker 1 What is it? But

Speaker 1 he's a guy.

Speaker 44 Yeah, but he does flip some shit.

Speaker 68 But he's not a mascot.

Speaker 54 He's a guy.

Speaker 7 So he's just a gymnast.

Speaker 61 What do you mean? All these other mascots.

Speaker 7 He's basketball players.

Speaker 3 Like, do you think there's a. Benny the Bull is a bull?

Speaker 44 No, they bring him from Ireland.

Speaker 42 Okay, that counts then.

Speaker 14 Yeah. They find him underneath.

Speaker 56 His name is Lucky.

Speaker 107 Okay, okay.

Speaker 44 That's how they, that's how they cast. Yeah.
Name Name has to be lucky.

Speaker 27 Okay, so we had that, and then we have the Dylan Brooks fallout.

Speaker 10 So turns out that Shams might have editorialized a little bit.

Speaker 91 Everyone's mad at him. The Grizzlies are mad at him.
Dylan Brooks is mad. Agent is mad at him.

Speaker 10 I'm pretty sure Shams, even though he might have taken a little bit of liberty, also nailed it. And then we had JJ Reddick, who we love, who's going to come back on the show.

Speaker 32 There's just JJ's really good at every now and then just having a clip that's just like reeking of irony.

Speaker 75 That I don't think he fully realizes when he was saying that Shams was just trying to get engagement on Twitter, and JJ was making this point on first take.

Speaker 52 And he was like, all that anyone cares about is engagement and hot takes.

Speaker 7 I actually, I think that JJ goes on first take for the integrity of defending basketball. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I actually don't think he cares about engagement. He's just so passionate about going against the hot takes that he ends up having a hot take of his own.

Speaker 29 JJ always makes good points.

Speaker 2 Oh, this one I kind of disagreed with just because there's no way that Dylan Brooks wasn't part of

Speaker 33 the failure.

Speaker 4 He wasn't the whole failure.

Speaker 20 He was a little bit of a scapegoat, but his performance and the way he acted did not help the Grizzlies beat the Lakers.

Speaker 75 And him making that point, like getting super serious on first take always makes you laugh because then Stephen A. Smith will just like chime in and be like, Dylan Brooks is a bum.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 80 And then

Speaker 7 it's like if you argue with JJ, it's like you're getting getting into a screaming match with a librarian. And they'll make much better points than you.

Speaker 7 But JJ, I don't think he has yet to understand the point of first take, which is to be wrong, but be louder.

Speaker 29 It's a noble pursuit by JJ to like try to elevate the discourse.

Speaker 65 Yeah.

Speaker 8 But Newsflash, the discourse is never getting elevated.

Speaker 30 No.

Speaker 10 We'll drag you back down to the mud and be like, Chris Paul, choke artist.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's a one-way stream.

Speaker 7 It's going straight down. I actually think that Shams,

Speaker 7 what I truly believe happened behind the scenes, Shams put out his first report, which was correct, and he heard that from somebody at the Grizzlies.

Speaker 7 And then everybody's like, yo, this is a little bit harsh. Right.

Speaker 7 The Grizzlies saw that, and they're like, wow, free agents might think twice about signing with us because we're going to take a big steaming shit on them on the way out the door.

Speaker 7 We don't want people to think that's how we do business. So we're going to have to go back and we're going to fight against that report and say that's not how it was said at the time.
Right.

Speaker 7 And so now that's where we're at right now. But in the back of his head, Dylan Brooks knows that he's not going back to Memphis.

Speaker 78 No. And

Speaker 7 Memphis is like, yes, correct. Under zero circumstances, will we ever bring him back?

Speaker 28 Yeah, no, Dylan Brooks is the meme that goes around Adam Silver.

Speaker 51 You better learn Chinese, buddy.

Speaker 21 That's kind of where he's at right now.

Speaker 65 I mean, someone will probably take a risk on him, but he, it has not gone well for Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 7 The talk in text, what team is that? Coach K was right.

Speaker 52 No, Coach K taught him how to be a bad person.

Speaker 75 Dylan Brooks was fine until Coach K got his hands on him.

Speaker 44 No, he was trying to teach him to stay calm, stay humble.

Speaker 7 I don't know about that. That's not true.

Speaker 7 There was another great hot take out there in the world of football. Did you guys see what they said about Sam Darnold today? Matt Mayuko, the writer in San Francisco? No.

Speaker 7 He said Sam Darnold might be the most talented thrower of football that the 49ers have ever had.

Speaker 7 What's that meme? Joe Montana?

Speaker 7 Memes, what are you doing?

Speaker 41 Memes believes.

Speaker 44 No, memes. Yeah, memes loves Sam Darnold.

Speaker 40 No, he hates him.

Speaker 95 No, most talented thrower.

Speaker 7 Most talented thrower of football. He didn't say best quarterback.

Speaker 3 In the history of San Francisco footballers.

Speaker 7 In the history of the 49ers. Have they had any good quarterbacks in the past?

Speaker 44 Kaepernick.

Speaker 22 Kaepernick,

Speaker 32 Jeff Garcia.

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Alex Smith. Josh Johnson.

Speaker 56 Yep.

Speaker 29 Anybody else? These are pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 42 No, I think we nailed it.

Speaker 84 Yep, that's it.

Speaker 109 So, yeah, I guess he's right.

Speaker 7 Most talented thrower of football.

Speaker 10 He's not a thrower.

Speaker 7 He's a passer. I don't even know what that means.
Most talented thrower. Well, actually, yes, I do know exactly what that means.
Just a guy that you watch.

Speaker 7 You're like, Jamarcus Russell would win that award. Yeah.
Like the most talented thrower of football that the NFL has ever had.

Speaker 19 Yeah, Yeah, the ball spins well.

Speaker 27 Brady Quinn, great thrower.

Speaker 7 Basically, what he said was, I want to fuck his spiral. Yeah.

Speaker 115 Yeah. Okay.
Opposite thrower.

Speaker 49 Concurred. Yeah.

Speaker 52 It does make me think of just Joe Namath.

Speaker 60 He's not a thrower. He's a passer.

Speaker 40 We can take the chance all the way.

Speaker 107 I want to kiss you.

Speaker 39 Okay.

Speaker 49 Anything else?

Speaker 21 We have Kentucky Derby talk coming up with Randy Moss. Very excited for that.

Speaker 98 Yeah, so everyone tune in to watch F1 on Sunday, Miami Grand Prix.

Speaker 10 Let's do it, though.

Speaker 75 We have Christian Horner and then Max and Cheko.

Speaker 2 So two interviews back to back.

Speaker 9 Great interviews.

Speaker 14 I think we fixed Red Bull

Speaker 75 in terms of maybe the rift between Max and Cheko.

Speaker 44 Yeah, they're super broken right now.

Speaker 74 No, but

Speaker 69 you can get better.

Speaker 23 You can get better.

Speaker 22 They're bros. Yeah, they're bros.

Speaker 28 We got them together.

Speaker 104 And then we have Randy Moss giving us Kentucky Derby picks, tips, everything.

Speaker 68 Always fun to have Randy Moss on.

Speaker 14 So let's get into it.

Speaker 61 Okay, we we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest.

Speaker 6 It is Christian Horner, team principal, Red Bull Racing.

Speaker 67 Thank you for joining us in person in Miami.

Speaker 19 I'm going to ask the most important question to start.

Speaker 32 It is probably the toughest question.

Speaker 32 Have you picked out your toilet this weekend?

Speaker 21 Because last time you were on, you told us you have your lucky toilet.

Speaker 116 This is your second year in Miami.

Speaker 90 No, exactly.

Speaker 35 Do you know where you're going?

Speaker 111 I'm trying to remember which one I used last year because that was pretty good.

Speaker 117 Yes.

Speaker 111 But I'm I'm heading to the track straight after this, so do a bit of reconnaissance.

Speaker 7 Yeah, what do you look for in the toilet? Is it just a vibe you look at and you're like, yeah, that's the one right there.

Speaker 102 Or is there a quality that you look for?

Speaker 111 I think anything that isn't called Toto.

Speaker 111 But

Speaker 111 yeah, no, I think it's just got to be convenient and available.

Speaker 116 Smart. It is.

Speaker 21 Because we're new to F1, so when we had you on,

Speaker 33 we always don't know where the interviews, like, who's going to pick up what, but that was the story that everyone picked up from you being on the first time.

Speaker 102 About the lucky toilet.

Speaker 83 The lucky toilet being pressed.

Speaker 59 That was it. Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 59 Okay.

Speaker 97 It's like, okay, I guess everyone wants to talk about this.

Speaker 57 So the season's been great so far.

Speaker 19 You guys are in first.

Speaker 48 You have two guys who are competing for a championship.

Speaker 12 You said you're going to let them race.

Speaker 6 What exactly does let them race mean?

Speaker 114 Because obviously there's a point where you have to pull it back if you risk the team, right?

Speaker 42 So

Speaker 111 how do you find that line well it's it's exactly that it's finding that line because you know in formula one you've got two competitions you've got the you've got the drivers championship which is where all the prestige and the hype and the the fan interest is and then you've got the constructors championship which is you know where the money is distributed and where we're measured against our rival teams so um both have a value um and of course both rely on both drivers scoring as many points as possible.

Speaker 111 So it's a question of just reminding the drivers that it's not their car. It's a team car.

Speaker 111 And they're representing the hopes of every single employee, of every single member of the team, all our partners, and so on, when they're racing our cars.

Speaker 111 And so long as they respect that, which so far

Speaker 111 they've been great,

Speaker 111 then we've got no problem allowing them to race each other

Speaker 111 in a clean and healthy way.

Speaker 95 From the outside looking at it, it feels like a good problem to have, right?

Speaker 32 Like in terms of problems that you could have in F1, having your your car be so good that both your racers are competing for the championship.

Speaker 116 I would imagine you'd want that over every other problem.

Speaker 111 This is the kind of problem that you dream about having, right?

Speaker 111 You know, this is a luxury problem, and it's not a problem. It's actually great to see the two guys pushing each other hard.
It's great to see how Checo's made a step up.

Speaker 111 You know, now he's in a third year with us as well. And Max again continuing to evolve.
And what we're seeing is, you know, is the best of them.

Speaker 111 And I think over a 23 race championship it's going to be

Speaker 111 it's going to be going to be fascinating but what we can't do is take our eye off the ball of what's going on with the other teams and you know we've got to make sure we keep keep edging away from them in in both championships.

Speaker 7 Yeah, in American media and sports, we always like to say if a team is too dominant, we like to have the conversation. It's probably the stupidest conversation that we have.

Speaker 7 Are they bad for the sport because they're so dominant? Is Red Bull bad for racing because you guys are so good right now?

Speaker 111 Well, look, from my perspective, obviously not. But

Speaker 111 I think when you've got two teammates that are competing hard with each other, like we have,

Speaker 111 that's another dynamic. It's another

Speaker 111 focus of interest. And don't write those other teams off because

Speaker 111 we're about to head back to Europe fairly shortly. Big upgrades we know are in the pipeline for some of our rivals.
And

Speaker 111 this year we have a restricted amount that we can develop the car with in terms of timing the wind tunnel. So

Speaker 111 I'm expecting the others to come back at us through the summer.

Speaker 7 Can you explain to us the

Speaker 7 shortening of the DRS zones and what that means in this race? I think, what, two out of the three, they pulled back. Is that good for you or is that bad for Red Bull?

Speaker 111 I think it depends if you're ahead or not. I mean,

Speaker 111 the DRS zone for when the flap opens that gives you an overspeed on the straight.

Speaker 111 Some have argued that it's been too easy to make an overtake. So I think that's why they've been trimming these zones to make it

Speaker 111 more wheel-to-wheel. And we'll

Speaker 111 see how that works in Miami. I think it had an impact in Azerbaijan.
They trimmed it by 100 meters.

Speaker 111 Maybe it should have, I think with hindsight, been 50 rather than the 100 because there wasn't a huge amount of overtaking going on.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So your car's been dominant for a couple of years now.

Speaker 21 At what point in that process were you like, oh, this is, we have something special?

Speaker 86 Like at what point during the building of the car, you're like, this is, we have something that no one else is going to have going forward?

Speaker 111 Well, that's the thing, you just don't know. Really? And, you know, last year was a big reset, new regulations.

Speaker 111 We turn up at the first test, everybody's car looks a bit different, and then Mercedes looked very different. You think, have we missed something dramatic here?

Speaker 111 And then, of course, 22 was an incredible year for us. And then we've just taken all those learnings and applied it into this car.
And, you know, the car was a little bit heavy last year.

Speaker 111 We got got the car on the weight limit and that kind of stuff, and just evolved the theme. And we've been surprised

Speaker 111 that the others haven't been closer to us so far, but feel that that will come later in the year.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so from a novice perspective, which we come at this sport from, we're learning it, we're getting into it.

Speaker 6 Week to week, how many adjustments are made on the car?

Speaker 28 Is it just constantly evolving?

Speaker 6 Is it similar to

Speaker 21 a football team where it's like you see the first drive and then the coach says, all right, we got to change everything we planned because it's not working?

Speaker 111 I think it, you know, every track is different. Like Miami compared to last week in Azerbaijan, different surface, different type of corners, et cetera, et cetera.
So it's different downforce levels.

Speaker 111 So you're constantly evolving and tuning the car. And then at strategic points

Speaker 111 within the budget that you have and the tools that you have,

Speaker 111 you're upgrading the car, the body work, you know, the wings, the engine cover, the floor, the big performance, you know, differentiators. So,

Speaker 111 and teams strategically pick where they're going to introduce those

Speaker 111 upgrades. So, and that's why I'm expecting when we head back to Europe, cars to start

Speaker 111 to converge a little. That's interesting.

Speaker 7 Do you like racing in America? Do you like the events that are taking place? We're expanding over here. We got Vegas coming up soon.
You mentioned it was on your birthday.

Speaker 118 Happy.

Speaker 111 Well, it's very kind of them to put the event on my 50th birthday.

Speaker 83 That's huge. So, right.

Speaker 111 I mean, we planned it specifically for that.

Speaker 111 For that weekend. So it's going to be an awesome event.
I think it's going to be the biggest sporting event globally this year.

Speaker 111 I really do. I think that the interest and the hype around that race, I mean, a Saturday night race down the strip in Vegas.

Speaker 111 Who doesn't want to be there? Who does not want to see that race? And I think it's going to be such a spectacle. And I think racing in the States for us is very different.
I mean, I'm...

Speaker 111 very British, obviously, and coming over here, everybody's so friendly and a lot of high-fives and fist pumps, even when you go out for a run.

Speaker 111 Um, you know, in England, you go for a run, nobody talks to you. Over here, uh, everybody's super friendly.
So, uh,

Speaker 111 uh, so that's taking an adjustment, but um, just the interest and the hype around Formula One is just it's just amazing.

Speaker 111 And uh, uh, you know, you guys put on a great show, and I'm sure we're gonna see something a bit different this weekend as well.

Speaker 7 Well, I would say also this weekend, it's the coronation. What better coronation present?

Speaker 79 So, you're missing that.

Speaker 37 Yeah. You're missing it.

Speaker 7 But if you win, that's the ultimate gift, isn't it?

Speaker 111 I'm sure he's going to be watching in between his duties, you know, what's going on out in

Speaker 111 Miami.

Speaker 102 But

Speaker 111 it's a big weekend in the UK, but nothing bigger than that for us than being out here in Miami.

Speaker 63 Yeah, that's true. So

Speaker 6 in America, we love the redemption arc of teams and sports where a guy, a team has success, they get torn down, then they come back back and they recover.

Speaker 6 You have, you know, you had four championships with Vettel.

Speaker 86 Red Bull was dominant.

Speaker 21 There was a period then when Mercedes takes over.

Speaker 86 Now you're back.

Speaker 78 Was there a moment in that entire path where you thought, like, I may never be back on the top?

Speaker 54 Like, this is,

Speaker 21 it's getting bleak. It's getting hard.

Speaker 86 I don't, you know,

Speaker 48 not even quitting, but just like you're forcing your head through a wall and you just can't get through.

Speaker 111 Honestly, I don't think there was ever a point that we didn't believe we could get back. And I think it was having that culture, that can-do attitude.

Speaker 111 It was a question of, okay, we need to address where our weaknesses are. Why are they beating us? And Mercedes is an incredible team, and their achievements during that period have been

Speaker 111 record-breaking.

Speaker 111 But I think it just demonstrates that if you want something bad enough and you focus and apply yourself,

Speaker 111 you can achieve it. And sport,

Speaker 111 it always comes in cycles whether it's you know formula one or football or basketball or any any form of sport you always are going to see you know cycles of of winning teams and i think that for me the challenge is how big how long can we keep this cycle going yeah because it is interesting you know people who are getting to the the sport in america right now they see red bull dominant they're probably like oh we don't like these guys they always win it's like but you don't know the history that yeah you know it was a stretch where they weren't winning and they were trying to get back up on top of the mountain which is that's the best part of sports i mean look back three years i mean the domination we've had is is believe it or not we're not as dominant as mercedes were you know a few years ago they finished i think first and second in the first five grand prix um so

Speaker 111 look and and of course we've got this competition between our two drivers and that's a whole different dynamic and a different responsibility is from a team point of view because suddenly it doesn't just become about racing the others

Speaker 111 It becomes about just ensuring that both have got the same opportunity and that as fairly as we can, even to the point of who drives out the garage first, we alternate from weekend to weekend.

Speaker 111 Who talks first in the debrief?

Speaker 111 We alternate from weekend to weekend to ensure as much fairness as we can possibly provide.

Speaker 7 It's really interesting because we were talking earlier this week about certain NBA coaches in basketball that have had to manage two superstars at one time.

Speaker 7 So Phil Jackson, when he had Michael Jordan, Shaq and Kobe, Michael Jordan, Scotty Pippen, Spolstra, when he had the big three down here in Miami.

Speaker 7 So that's interesting how you try to keep everything fair.

Speaker 7 Are there certain elements of the different drivers' personalities that you know that, okay, this guy must need a little bit more encouragement on certain weekends.

Speaker 7 This person needs some tough love at this point. How do you manage dealing with those egos?

Speaker 111 Well, they're all different. And, you know, sometimes they need an arm around the shoulder.
Sometimes,

Speaker 111 they need to kick up the ass.

Speaker 111 But they're

Speaker 111 both great drivers, and there's a great dynamic between the two of them. And I think Wacheco has, the way he's kicked off this year, has been fantastic.

Speaker 111 And of course, all the races he's won for us so far have been on street tracks.

Speaker 111 And I think the challenge for him is going to come, okay, he knows Max has been the most informed driver of the last, arguably the last five years.

Speaker 111 So, you know, he's got to keep this level across 23 events. And,

Speaker 111 you know, we're just fortunate, and it's great to see

Speaker 111 the healthy competition that there is between these two great drivers.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I saw that there was a bit of a stir when you made the comment, I think it was last week, that Checo was lucky in certain regards.

Speaker 7 Now, I think that's unfair to you, because in any sport, there is a certain element of luck that's involved. So, in any race, depending on when you pit, all that stuff, These

Speaker 7 small fractions of a second make a big difference. How much of racing is luck, in your opinion?

Speaker 111 I think it sometimes plays a role, and you know, it's how you use it at the end of the day as well. And look, what happened with the safety car last weekend?

Speaker 111 You know, Checo

Speaker 111 benefited because he had a shorter time in the pit lane because when the safety car comes out, everything slows down. And so he gained a track position without having to make the overtake on track.

Speaker 111 But then he had to convert that. And not on one lap did did he ever let Max get close enough to get into that DRS zone.
And at one point, pulled out a 3.7-second lead. And it was a phenomenal race

Speaker 111 from him. But

Speaker 111 you look back to Jeddah or Saudi last year.

Speaker 111 He was in the lead, took a pit stop and the safety car out, and it benefited Max. And he was unlucky on that day.
Max got lucky.

Speaker 111 So

Speaker 111 it tends to even itself out these situations over the course of a season. But

Speaker 111 the comment was not in reference to him having a lucky win. It was a lucky scenario that he then converted.

Speaker 111 And man, did he put in a competitive race?

Speaker 7 I think that's totally fair.

Speaker 59 It's the ball bounce.

Speaker 71 Like we watch it all the time.

Speaker 116 The ball bounces your way sometimes.

Speaker 21 It doesn't mean that you don't deserve a win.

Speaker 53 It's just that's how the ball bounces.

Speaker 111 And Max recognized that. He said, look, yeah, the opposite happened in Jeddah last year.
That's the way it goes sometimes.

Speaker 111 that's sport.

Speaker 6 So, speaking on that, though, you're mic'd up during the race. It's a fantastic thing for the viewers.

Speaker 67 We love being able to see what's going on in the control center and how you're talking to the drivers.

Speaker 6 Are you going forward going to be like, I'm not going to say some things now because everything's under a microphone?

Speaker 111 If you just respond to what people are writing on social media or whatever, then we're just going to end up with robots.

Speaker 111 You've got to respond to what you're seeing and what you're feeling and what you believe the drivers are feeling.

Speaker 111 And of course, sometimes you've got to pick drivers up. Sometimes you've got to manage expectations and so on.
And I see that as my part of my role is to do that. And

Speaker 111 the most important thing is to deal with it

Speaker 111 openly and honestly.

Speaker 33 So we like to troll on this show.

Speaker 21 We like to basically make a mockery of the media and kind of get the media.

Speaker 116 Just an idea, throwing it out there.

Speaker 21 We're saying this. It's going to be on a podcast.
Maybe when you're on an open mic, you say to Max over the weekend, like, you're my favorite son ever.

Speaker 21 And then everyone flips out, and then they're like, No, wait, we plan this whole thing.

Speaker 33 Yeah, good idea, right?

Speaker 111 I mean, you guys, you guys are changing the dynamic of radio corporate.

Speaker 2 It was obviously a joke.

Speaker 84 We said it out loud.

Speaker 76 We said we were joking.

Speaker 111 Yeah, no, absolutely. I'm even thinking of selling, you know, the space that makes this

Speaker 111 message that is brought to you by Cash App.

Speaker 36 Yeah.

Speaker 59 Why not throw a Roback ad in in there?

Speaker 21 We'll give you some ads that you can pitch from our show.

Speaker 58 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 111 I like it.

Speaker 111 I like this.

Speaker 21 Yeah, just be like, I said it on part of my take.

Speaker 67 I was going to say this and then say it.

Speaker 35 And people will run with it and then be like, no, you guys are idiots.

Speaker 116 You're not doing your job.

Speaker 35 So we can get the media.

Speaker 102 Just a thought.

Speaker 111 The problem is, people always pick out little bits that they want to hear or they want to see. And the most important thing is what our drivers feel and what our team feels.

Speaker 111 So to be honest with you, I don't really give a shit

Speaker 111 what others think. It's about what they think and what the team thinks.
Yeah, actually,

Speaker 7 you can't cuss on this podcast, though.

Speaker 121 You can't.

Speaker 59 No, you can't. I'm sorry.

Speaker 119 You can ask.

Speaker 95 Motherfucker. You can say anything.

Speaker 102 Oh, really?

Speaker 100 Yeah, we can say literally anything.

Speaker 7 What's your favorite swear word?

Speaker 111 My favorite swear word. Yeah.

Speaker 102 Ooh, good question. Yeah, that's.

Speaker 113 British people swear well.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 100 Do they swear?

Speaker 119 It's classy.

Speaker 7 It sounds classy when you get it. It sounds more classy.
When I say motherfucker, everyone's like, shut Kid Rock up.

Speaker 71 Yeah, no, when it's like when

Speaker 48 you get like a viral clip of like a British guy watching.

Speaker 103 I mean,

Speaker 111 when I said said change your fucking car, I'm now seeing t-shirts with that on. Yes.

Speaker 7 Change your fucking car.

Speaker 59 I like that.

Speaker 100 I like that too. There you go.

Speaker 7 Yeah, go ahead. I was going to say,

Speaker 7 welcome to America. We want to be gracious hosts.
Part of American culture is being very kind to our guests. So

Speaker 7 in that spirit, I just have a little bit of American trivia for you. Okay, that's all right.

Speaker 99 Go on it.

Speaker 7 Who won the Revolutionary War?

Speaker 111 Good question. Who was in it?

Speaker 7 It was

Speaker 7 the colonies, the United States,

Speaker 7 and Great Britain.

Speaker 111 Well, you guys obviously got Independence Day that came off the back of it, and so on.

Speaker 59 So, never forget. Yeah, never forget.

Speaker 7 That's the only question that I have. Yeah, American.

Speaker 111 There you go. It's.

Speaker 36 Oh, follow up. Oh, wait, I think I have a question, too.

Speaker 103 How many Super Bowls has England won?

Speaker 111 Super Bowls as England won.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 102 Well, you know.

Speaker 111 Do Manchester United play in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 95 Nope. Nope.

Speaker 42 So the answer is zero.

Speaker 108 You guys have not won any Super Bowls.

Speaker 95 That's kind of pathetic, but whatever.

Speaker 59 Maybe Maybe someday.

Speaker 42 Exactly.

Speaker 7 And then third question, did you watch the United States against England in the World Cup this year?

Speaker 111 Yes, I did.

Speaker 71 Who won that draw?

Speaker 111 That's even... Do you know what? That shows my following of football.

Speaker 111 We won that one, actually.

Speaker 103 No, we won the draw. We won the draw.
It was a nil.

Speaker 97 Was it a nil, no?

Speaker 111 Yeah, we won. You guys would say that as a victory.

Speaker 102 We won that.

Speaker 102 We won it.

Speaker 111 Yeah, you probably got lucky on the drugs.

Speaker 95 You lost the draw. We won the draw.

Speaker 7 Christian Pusilich hit the crossbar. It was off the woodwork.
We won that draw.

Speaker 48 Who's your soccer team?

Speaker 111 Who's my soccer? I like a team called Coventry City. They're

Speaker 111 in the second tier. Championship or the championship.
They're getting to the playoffs. Okay.
They're there. My grandfather used to be a part of that team,

Speaker 111 so that's why I've got an interest. That's big.

Speaker 116 Hopefully they get up to the EPL.

Speaker 111 But I tell you what, the women's game, I went to see

Speaker 111 the women play football the other day, and they are...

Speaker 111 They are kicking butt. They are doing

Speaker 111 unbelievably well. And they don't fucking.
And they won a penalty shootout. I I mean, the men fluff the penalties all the time.
The women, bang. Yeah.

Speaker 35 No, they don't.

Speaker 111 They beat Brazil the other day. Unbelievable.

Speaker 21 It's great to watch because you'll watch a men's game and Neymar will get

Speaker 21 lightly touched and he'll go down like he needs to be a wheelchair.

Speaker 111 The women are tough.

Speaker 81 They play through it.

Speaker 59 Yeah, they played through it.

Speaker 103 That's what we want to watch.

Speaker 7 The point when women play soccer, the point is to not get pushed off the ball. In men's soccer, it's like the point is, please push me so I can follow and embellish and get a penalty.

Speaker 2 So Drive to Survive has been fantastic.

Speaker 33 We watch it.

Speaker 21 We love it. Do you watch it back and just maybe make like a super cut of all the times you pissed Toto off and being like, this rolls?

Speaker 103 Like, look how mad he is.

Speaker 21 I did that. Well, do you know what?

Speaker 111 You get to see at the end of the year, they send through some of the cuts. And

Speaker 111 what you don't see is how they've put it with the other pieces. So

Speaker 111 you think,

Speaker 111 did I really say that? Yeah. You know, did I really,

Speaker 111 you know, say the see you next Tuesday word or something like that?

Speaker 111 And,

Speaker 111 you know, sometimes you think, where's this going? So, and you think, I think we need that to be removed.

Speaker 97 Yeah, it's an out-of-body experience to watch yourself back.

Speaker 103 Exactly.

Speaker 111 Exactly.

Speaker 120 So,

Speaker 111 and then, of course, then you see how they cut, because you think, what are they giving the guys on the other side as hard a time as they appear to be giving us?

Speaker 111 And then you see the whole thing come together. But you've got to remember, they're making a show.

Speaker 21 I mean, it's like the Kardashians on wheels basically yeah I mean so it's I like that that's very meta that you guys like the idea that you and Toto would complain to them that you they showed you complaining more than the other person complaining yeah that's pretty much what you're saying

Speaker 82 yeah

Speaker 7 so you watch every episode of it have I watched every episode I don't think I've seen all the episodes I've seen the ones that are relevant to to us to your team yeah yeah and you see what information other people are getting about about Red Bull and what's being distributed out there is Is there anything that you think has been unfair in general in the way that you've been portrayed or the team's been portrayed?

Speaker 111 Well, again, you've got to remember that they're making a story or making a show, and somebody's going to be the villain, somebody's going to be the hero, and sometimes they swap over, and

Speaker 111 there's an element of pantomime to it. I mean, the one thing that's consistent is just how fucking scary Gunter Steiner is.

Speaker 36 Yes.

Speaker 111 But

Speaker 103 that's the consistent theme

Speaker 111 through all of the shows, what I've seen.

Speaker 20 Yeah, so how is your relationship with Toto right now?

Speaker 21 If he called you and was like, hey, I want to get dinner with you, you'd be like, this is a prank.

Speaker 116 What are you doing?

Speaker 111 I think he's blocked.

Speaker 36 Oh, really?

Speaker 99 No.

Speaker 111 It's fine. I mean, look, there's a healthy competition.
And I think it's good to have rivalry in sport. Yeah.

Speaker 111 And,

Speaker 111 you know, they did a lot of winning. They're a great team.

Speaker 111 And now we're doing our thing. And,

Speaker 111 you know, we're tending not to look behind. We're looking forward.
and

Speaker 111 and it's not not really about Toto I mean it's about Ferrari about Aston Martin and

Speaker 111 you know he's no doubt got his challenges so I'll let him focus on those I'll correct you it's great for sport to have rivalry that's what we watch for like that's that is you know you want to see there's nothing better than when two teams don't like each other and the stakes get higher and higher and higher yeah and you get invested in your team it's the best well it's or if everybody just you know loves each other and whatever there's there's you've got to have a a rivalry.

Speaker 111 And it's got to fire people up. And I think that fires the fans up as well.
And there's always going to be people that support you and people that don't.

Speaker 111 And that will change from country to country that you go to.

Speaker 7 So what about the supporters of the different racing teams?

Speaker 7 Obviously, in British football, each team has their supporters, and they're known for different things. In racing, is it the same way?

Speaker 111 Ferrari, you know, it's a great brand, isn't it?

Speaker 59 It is. It's cool.

Speaker 34 I wear a Ferrari shirt.

Speaker 21 I don't own a Ferrari, but I wear it just so people think I own a Ferrari.

Speaker 111 See, you're a classic Ferrari.

Speaker 36 Yeah, that's kind of a good idea.

Speaker 37 I don't take offense to the poser.

Speaker 111 But look, it's great to have

Speaker 111 so many iconic brands, and what we see is just this fan base growing and growing. And not just for the team, but for the drivers.
I mean, you see the support there is for Max when

Speaker 111 his orange army traveling

Speaker 111 around the world for such a little country, those guys get around.

Speaker 111 And then when we race in Zambo or or Belgium is unbelievable and then and then we've got the Mexicans which is you know that's just insane that weekend when we go to so we've got about four or five home races yeah

Speaker 111 who are the hooligans the hooligans yeah which which I team the hooligans support which team is the hooligans well probably that's probably us yeah you know we're a bit edgy well I see that you're you're a company man you're drinking a Red Bull right now I that's we do that we drank six cores lights before but I think we play our music loud we're a really bad neighbor

Speaker 111 You know, everybody's enjoying what they're doing. They're doing it with a smile on their face.
We do things a bit differently. We're not as corporate.
You know, nobody in our factory wears a tie.

Speaker 111 They probably wouldn't get in the factory if they wore a tie. You know, it's very much a jeans and t-shirt kind of culture in the design functions and so on.

Speaker 111 So it's just a different culture, and every team has its own characteristic. And I think the Red Bull one epitomizes, you know, who we are.

Speaker 111 And it's got to be fun. It's got to be, if you don't enjoy what you do, why do it?

Speaker 32 Yeah. All right.
So, last question.

Speaker 6 This has been fantastic. Best of luck in Miami.

Speaker 6 Before Max and Checo come into the room, who do you love more?

Speaker 111 Well, look, I love all my children equally.

Speaker 103 Oh, shoot. They're in the room.

Speaker 96 I didn't even realize they were in the room.

Speaker 99 Oh, no.

Speaker 33 That was my mistake.

Speaker 121 Well, there you go.

Speaker 111 Have you got kids? Yeah.

Speaker 117 You love one more than the other? Yeah, my daughter. Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 42 That's the easy answer.

Speaker 102 Okay, that's

Speaker 117 it.

Speaker 111 That's kind of remote.

Speaker 111 In the UK, we'd never say anything.

Speaker 89 I love it. People do that to me all the time.

Speaker 21 And I just, I'm like, yeah, my daughter, and they don't know it.

Speaker 57 All right.

Speaker 32 Well, thank you so much, Christian. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 67 Best of luck in Miami.

Speaker 21 Very fun to do this in person.

Speaker 67 And

Speaker 95 if you want to troll on the mic, we'll have your back.

Speaker 111 Okay, that's good. Just think about it.

Speaker 118 That's good to know.

Speaker 100 Yeah.

Speaker 111 Good luck. Thank you very much.

Speaker 7 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 6 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guests who've been on before.

Speaker 35 It is from Team Red Bull, Max Verstapen, stapping sergio perez checko and max uh thanks for joining us guys we're at miami for the f1 uh race this weekend so let's start there how good is the car right now

Speaker 122 uh i think it's pretty good i mean uh we've won the race

Speaker 122 we've won so far all the races so i think um that's a great start i mean honestly i think we didn't expect it to be that good i mean of course we had a very strong car to the end of the year but we really thought that um starting this year other people um would have been a bit closer,

Speaker 122 especially, I think, in the race, the car is very, very strong. That's, of course, where you score the points, right? But yeah, I think we are all positively surprised with it.

Speaker 2 Okay, so dumb question. We asked Christian this,

Speaker 21 like, in America, if a team dominates too much, we always start the stupid storyline, are they bad for the sport?

Speaker 90 Because they're winning so much.

Speaker 21 Have you guys ever thought to maybe slow down a little bit just so that way the competition thinks thinks they're closer than they are. Like being like, maybe in this race, I'll just

Speaker 21 hit the brake just a tiny bit just to make them think that they're close?

Speaker 34 Dumb question. I knew it sounded dumb when it came out.

Speaker 120 The problem is if, I mean, whoever sits in the lead, if you do that, then your teammate normally will get by. So I don't think

Speaker 120 that will be the case. I think we will be really happy if we keep winning every single race.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I guess now that we break it down, what we just asked you was like, have you ever considered being worse at your team?

Speaker 108 Yeah, it's slower.

Speaker 7 And that's probably not what goes through a Formula One driver's mind at any time.

Speaker 7 I saw your helmets. So you've got the custom paint design for this race this weekend.

Speaker 7 Does that make you faster?

Speaker 120 I didn't make one. I forgot about it.

Speaker 103 Oh, you didn't make one?

Speaker 120 I missed out the boat, so I'm doing one for, I think, in two, three races' time.

Speaker 7 Is there a helmet that you've put on and you look at yourself in the mirror and you're like, yeah, this is a fast helmet?

Speaker 120 I look at the car more than the helmet.

Speaker 100 And that was another, yeah.

Speaker 21 I mean, we do, we like bet on teams based on their jerseys. So you'd have to understand, like, when we see cool helmets, we're like, oh, they're not going to lose.

Speaker 106 Not even thinking about the car.

Speaker 59 Just the helmets.

Speaker 7 We're like dogs. We see some of them.

Speaker 102 We're like, oh, that's cool.

Speaker 90 All right.

Speaker 35 So the second year in Miami, what, like, how are American race fans?

Speaker 48 How has it like progressed from what you guys have seen?

Speaker 21 Obviously, Drivers Survive has been huge, but like, rate us versus other race countries and the events.

Speaker 120 I mean, I find it it amazing how it has grown you know and and the race weekends in the US are unique because they're so different to let's say to the standard format of FOMO One. I love it I enjoy it

Speaker 120 there's there are a lot of fans a lot of Latins all always in Miami for example

Speaker 120 and it's great to see how much they they're getting into the sport and also the young generations.

Speaker 120 So yeah it's it's great that finally FOMO One made it to the to the US.

Speaker 88 Yeah yeah yeah what do you think?

Speaker 122 Yeah I think you know, it's always been quite busy at the track, right? But even getting back to your hotel now and just in general,

Speaker 122 the travel to the track, you can see it's a lot busier and a lot more fans around.

Speaker 122 So,

Speaker 122 yeah, definitely it has grown a lot in the last few years. I mean, compared to like 2015 and now it's a different world.
Yeah.

Speaker 122 Of course, that first started in Austin and now, of course, here in Miami, Vegas coming up later. So yeah, I think it's a good thing.
I mean, I enjoy anyway being in the US.

Speaker 122 So it's good that we have a few races here. I also, you know, people say, is it not too much, you know, to have three races or whatever? But the country is so big, it's almost like Europe, right?

Speaker 59 So

Speaker 122 I think it's quite normal.

Speaker 7 Texas is bigger than France. Yeah.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 56 So

Speaker 122 yeah. And they're very different as well,

Speaker 122 Austin, Vegas.

Speaker 53 So speaking of that, when they unveil a new track, how long does it take you guys to learn the track on the simulator or like feel comfortable with the track?

Speaker 2 Because I would imagine that's a lot of your job is like knowing exactly when you're pushing, when you're laying off, the turns, and everything.

Speaker 103 How long is that process?

Speaker 122 It depends a bit, right? Like, I mean, sometimes a different track gets to the calendar, which has been around for a while, but not an F1, for example.

Speaker 122 But I know the track from when I was a young kid playing already on a simulator or whatever. But if it's a complete new track, which like you know, Miami last year, it just, yeah, it takes a few laps.

Speaker 122 I mean, um, first, you go through an onboard or whatever of a previous simulator driver in back at Red Bull and he's been driving already to try and set up the car a bit for you and

Speaker 122 Yeah, takes a few more laps than than normal, but then again also

Speaker 122 To to judge like the the grip levels and stuff. You have no idea right until you actually get to get to the track So it is always a bit more difficult than another track.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, we saw Daniel Ricardo at the Met Gala last week. You guys see the pictures of him talking to Ann Hathaway being a big-time celebrity.
Did you guys get an invitation to the Met?

Speaker 120 I wasn't invited. I don't know if Max was.

Speaker 121 No, would you?

Speaker 122 I'm not the kind of guy to go to these kind of events.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so you wouldn't go if you were invited, Cheko. Would you go?

Speaker 120 I wouldn't go either.

Speaker 120 I'll prefer to go and play golf.

Speaker 36 Yeah, how's the golf game right now?

Speaker 102 Are you shooting it?

Speaker 97 What's your story?

Speaker 120 Well, I played this this morning and I had a pretty good run. But I only played six holes because I was in a rush.
Yeah.

Speaker 120 Pretty much just got a buggy.

Speaker 99 Okay.

Speaker 120 The rest was on par, so it went really well. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So you're pretty much a scratch golfer then.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Right around there, right around par.

Speaker 108 That's good. That's fun.

Speaker 120 Yeah, but that was my best run.

Speaker 118 Yeah,

Speaker 122 I wouldn't be here, mate.

Speaker 103 If I got one.

Speaker 102 Have you ever had a whole one?

Speaker 36 No.

Speaker 120 Oh, shit. And I don't think I will ever get one.

Speaker 59 Max. Have you?

Speaker 7 I haven't. I shot a 119.
I shot a 119 the other week, but I had two birdies. Yeah.
Which is

Speaker 7 hard to do. Yeah.
It's the equivalent of.

Speaker 83 I'm really bad at golf.

Speaker 59 119.

Speaker 103 What do you do?

Speaker 122 I mean, you guys are. I have no clue what you guys are talking about.

Speaker 113 Yeah, why don't you golf? You should golf.

Speaker 120 What basically he says is that he's done two poor positions, but he has crashed.

Speaker 36 Pretty much.

Speaker 117 Okay, that's pretty much it, right?

Speaker 79 Two of the fastest laps, and then every other lap.

Speaker 96 Max, you own a lion.

Speaker 70 Do you own a lion?

Speaker 59 I read a story that you own a lion.

Speaker 122 Well, we like kind of like adopted a lion

Speaker 122 to Mick. Okay.
That was like this kind of like,

Speaker 122 was it the Christmas kind of presents you have to give to other drivers, right? You gave some lion. And you can like adopt a lion.

Speaker 47 No,

Speaker 122 you can adopt a lion and then, well, you didn't get the actual lion. I mean, the lion is still walking around in the wild.

Speaker 94 We need to find this lion.

Speaker 36 You're taking care of the lion. But you own it.

Speaker 79 But you own it.

Speaker 36 No, that's your lion.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no. Wait, so what other gifts did you get? Because that's a pretty cool gift.

Speaker 58 Well, I gave it away. I gave it away.

Speaker 122 Okay. I gave it to Mick.

Speaker 124 Okay. So, yeah.

Speaker 120 So Mick owns a lion.

Speaker 103 A lion.

Speaker 37 Kind of.

Speaker 7 Do you get to visit the lion if you wanted to? Could you go find it?

Speaker 107 Yeah.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 79 I would find that

Speaker 58 line. Should be.

Speaker 29 Wait, so you give gifts to other racers?

Speaker 122 Is that what you're doing? Well, that was like this Christmas kind of thing we do at the end of the year from F4.

Speaker 34 Basically, you are forced to.

Speaker 59 Okay, so

Speaker 116 what did you guys get other people?

Speaker 122 Well,

Speaker 122 I gave that to Mick, and I got an F1 cover with three times Charles in it. Okay.
So, Charles, of course, gifted that to me.

Speaker 1 Wait, so you guys were basically playing Secret Santa and you're like, Yeah, I'm giving someone a lion.

Speaker 79 Secret Santa.

Speaker 82 That's why I was walling.

Speaker 59 That was what I was looking for.

Speaker 59 What did you get?

Speaker 120 I got sake from Juki. Okay.
And

Speaker 120 I gave some golf lessons to Albon.

Speaker 53 Okay, but not a lion. That's a lesson.

Speaker 7 That's a mean gift to give somebody

Speaker 88 lessons. Yeah.

Speaker 36 You definitely want to give them a lesson.

Speaker 120 That wasn't my idea, though.

Speaker 122 If you ever get me, do not give that to me.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Do you guys get each other gifts?

Speaker 7 Well. It's okay.
Me and Big Cat don't give each other gifts.

Speaker 119 No, it's fine.

Speaker 37 That's fine.

Speaker 7 We kiss every year on our birthdays.

Speaker 121 Oh, we haven't done that yet.

Speaker 7 You guys haven't kissed each other?

Speaker 97 No, that will help you. Bad teammates.

Speaker 103 Not yet. Do you guys want it?

Speaker 36 Not yet.

Speaker 36 Do you want it?

Speaker 82 Just give me a second. No, no, we're okay.

Speaker 36 That's fine. That's fine.

Speaker 103 You would do it now?

Speaker 117 Would you do it now?

Speaker 120 In front of the camera? Or are you shy? God damn it.

Speaker 110 In front of the cameras.

Speaker 95 We'll send you a video on our birthday. Okay,

Speaker 62 it's fine. I don't want to say it.

Speaker 36 Don't send it.

Speaker 21 We kiss at midnight because I'm January 30th. He's January 31st.

Speaker 124 It's like the passing of the torch.

Speaker 122 You understand.

Speaker 21 If you guys had birthdays next to each other, you'd probably kick.

Speaker 59 All right, so maybe.

Speaker 36 So

Speaker 28 the start of this season, obviously you guys have been in the news a lot.

Speaker 101 You guys are both.

Speaker 48 you know, racing.

Speaker 2 You're free to race, competing against each other. I thought maybe we should do a team building exercise.

Speaker 70 I googled team-building exercise.

Speaker 76 So it's just, I just googled how to build a team together.

Speaker 48 And I have a couple exercises we can do if you guys are down.

Speaker 103 You ready? All right.

Speaker 115 All right. So

Speaker 3 it's just to learn about each other.

Speaker 2 What's the best piece of advice you've ever received?

Speaker 122 From anyone? Anyone.

Speaker 32 This is just to learn about each other.

Speaker 21 And you guys are going to walk out of this being like, I love you, man.

Speaker 120 I love you, man. Just push

Speaker 120 the right pedal.

Speaker 103 Okay, that's a good piece of advice.

Speaker 79 That's a good advice. That's a good advice.

Speaker 122 Stay with two feet on the ground.

Speaker 121 Okay.

Speaker 103 Okay.

Speaker 7 What's the most profound experience that you guys have ever had?

Speaker 53 This is team-build.

Speaker 57 We got to let ourselves be vulnerable.

Speaker 7 It could be anything.

Speaker 116 It could be seeing the northern lights.

Speaker 7 It could be whatever.

Speaker 103 Yeah.

Speaker 120 Well, I think the most we've been together, it was in Austria, where I drove you for like

Speaker 7 nine hours. I did not.

Speaker 115 And you were sitting, and

Speaker 120 he was on the couple

Speaker 120 on the side. I was driving the truck through the mountain and so on.

Speaker 122 That was actually a good experience.

Speaker 5 it was a long day like we had to wake up super early for that you remember my god but uh it was uh good team million it was fun yeah this is the this is good you remember these moments i almost broke the wheel if you remember on the track yeah i loved the wheel yeah like i remember uh one time when pft threw up and i had to hold his hair back like this team that's how you build those

Speaker 7 teams yeah all right next so what did you learn from that experience what did we learn that i can't handle my milk yeah i I taught you cut your hair.

Speaker 103 Oh, yeah. So you don't need to hold his hair.
That's true. Yeah.

Speaker 21 Also, yeah, don't drink a gallon of milk and try to run.

Speaker 19 But that's a different story.

Speaker 15 How do you most like to be recognized or thanked for your contribution?

Speaker 48 So when you do something, how do you like people to be like, great job.

Speaker 20 How do you like that?

Speaker 21 Because, you know, maybe we start doing it to each other, right?

Speaker 102 Good job.

Speaker 122 Just being yourself and honest? Yeah.

Speaker 21 But like, so Checo wins. Checko, what would you like Max to say to you if you win a race?

Speaker 120 You are amazing, Checo. you know.

Speaker 124 I mean, what you're doing. Chopping.

Speaker 103 Yeah,

Speaker 36 that's beautiful.

Speaker 9 Okay, so Max, you win a race.

Speaker 53 What would you like Checo to say to you?

Speaker 1 This is good. I feel like we're making a breakthrough.

Speaker 120 I really do.

Speaker 120 We're getting directed.

Speaker 99 No, I think

Speaker 122 actually, in the most Mexican way, you have to approach me.

Speaker 83 Okay.

Speaker 122 I don't know, like with the accent, you know, the full-on Mexican.

Speaker 117 Hey, man.

Speaker 59 Good win, yeah, it's good. High five.

Speaker 122 Yeah, maybe just we can't high five. We just keep missing each other.

Speaker 88 Yeah, let's start high fiving each other.

Speaker 7 Do you guys have a handshake that you do together?

Speaker 110 Like a

Speaker 122 I think it's just a normal, you know, when was the last

Speaker 103 high five?

Speaker 122 Well, last week.

Speaker 102 Yeah, did you? Yeah. Did you feel it, though?

Speaker 95 Yeah. Yeah.
It's high five right now. Let's see it.

Speaker 70 That was pretty good. That was pretty good.

Speaker 100 All right.

Speaker 102 That felt good.

Speaker 122 We're getting used to it, you know, when you're always on the podium together.

Speaker 59 Yeah, huh? Yeah.

Speaker 103 You can practice a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 7 The next one here here is:

Speaker 7 I want you guys to tell each other what's one quality in each other that you appreciate.

Speaker 7 So, Cheka, what's your favorite thing about Max as a person?

Speaker 120 He's a good loser, I'll say.

Speaker 103 Oh, okay.

Speaker 36 No, no, you don't.

Speaker 120 Like, when you have

Speaker 120 he has a fame of a bad loser, but honestly,

Speaker 120 whenever I beat him, he's like, he really likes, well done. And it's not very normal in Formula One to have that sort of teammates.

Speaker 22 That's actually a good answer.

Speaker 120 He really comes and, you know, you've, well done, mate.

Speaker 103 Like, rooting for each other.

Speaker 110 And you can see that he feels it.

Speaker 120 And that's,

Speaker 120 I appreciate that.

Speaker 7 Max, you would Cheko with you.

Speaker 122 Yes, I wanted to say just, you know, the family man, Checo.

Speaker 122 No, because, I mean, people are always so focused, you know, on their fun career, and that's their only sole goal, you know, to try and achieve.

Speaker 122 And it always feels like if you don't achieve anything, not what you want in a fun, your life is like

Speaker 122 over or whatever. So, you know, you get these kind of like impressions, but

Speaker 122 I do like how Checo handles everything and how he sees F1 world, but also, you know, it's important to have good family life, and you know, that's probably way more important than whatever you do in F1 anyway.

Speaker 122 You know, perspective.

Speaker 100 Yeah, that's beautiful.

Speaker 53 All right, this last one might be a little tricky, but we're going to give it a try, okay?

Speaker 21 Because I feel like we're getting somewhere. The last one that the team building, when I googled it, it said, look into your teammates' eyes for 60 seconds without taking away the gaze.

Speaker 53 So you guys are going to look each other's eyes.

Speaker 120 For 60 seconds. Yeah.

Speaker 116 I'm going to have the timer right here, and we'll just narrate, but you guys just stare at each other, okay?

Speaker 122 And we are not allowed to

Speaker 100 kiss. Can't break.

Speaker 79 You can't kiss.

Speaker 122 You're going to want to kick. You're going to want it.

Speaker 59 But yeah. All right.

Speaker 103 You ready to go?

Speaker 53 All right. Look each other's eyes.

Speaker 108 Here we go.

Speaker 103 Time. All right.

Speaker 32 So they're looking at each other.

Speaker 7 This is good. It does look good.

Speaker 97 Do you feel like, you know, your souls are connecting?

Speaker 120 I'm really feeling it. Yeah.

Speaker 108 This is good. Really, Maddie got

Speaker 117 very intense. Oh,

Speaker 21 I'm going to have to restart. We may never get out of here.

Speaker 88 All right.

Speaker 32 Oh, Max just kind of looked away a little, too.

Speaker 7 Max has really quick eyes. Did you see that?

Speaker 97 Stay locked in.

Speaker 21 You got 40 more seconds, guys. This is...

Speaker 71 You feel it. I feel it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I feel the love in this room right now.

Speaker 21 I feel like you guys are finally connecting.

Speaker 116 Like,

Speaker 53 you haven't looked at each other's eyes.

Speaker 90 Oh, a little sigh.

Speaker 106 That was cute. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Oh, you're starting to mirror each other's body language, too. You're nodding a little bit.

Speaker 21 I'm going to say that you guys can kiss if you want to.

Speaker 119 That's fine.

Speaker 103 Okay. All right.

Speaker 95 They're saying no.

Speaker 42 20 seconds.

Speaker 7 You're such good teammates. They know, like, hey, I don't want to kiss.

Speaker 37 Yeah, I also don't want to kiss. Right.
All right.

Speaker 29 This feels good.

Speaker 90 Let's just look at each other. Yep.

Speaker 7 No laughs. This is so good.

Speaker 21 I feel the bond is getting stronger.

Speaker 103 We got, oh, thumbs up on each other.

Speaker 21 That was just to remind each other they're it.

Speaker 115 And

Speaker 115 time.

Speaker 7 That was great.

Speaker 34 How'd that feel?

Speaker 121 Unbelievable. Yeah.

Speaker 120 I really felt it. Okay.

Speaker 7 Do you guys feel closer? Yeah.

Speaker 122 We were already that close. It can't even get closer.
It can't get any closer.

Speaker 7 It can always get closer.

Speaker 103 No. We're going to.
No, no. We're going to have to bill.

Speaker 103 We cannot get closer already.

Speaker 100 We're going to have to build Christian Horner for all the things we've done for Team Red Bull here.

Speaker 103 Therapist. Because this feels like...

Speaker 97 You guys are.

Speaker 103 What was that?

Speaker 122 Like on Google, like team building?

Speaker 59 Yeah, it was the first thing.

Speaker 79 Yeah.

Speaker 118 Yeah.

Speaker 21 It was Trust Falls, too, but I don't really want to do a trust fall but yeah yeah it was the most generic like icebreaker thing you do like in a corporate america and we did it yeah what we just did yeah we did it and we i feel like you guys are as close as you ever been

Speaker 7 it's unbelievable isn't it yeah okay serious f1 question do you think that do you think that formula one is trying to

Speaker 7 trying to nerf the Red Bull team? Are they trying to make you guys slower with the DRS stuff? Are they out to get you?

Speaker 122 No. Well, no, no.
I think so far it's been alright. I mean,

Speaker 122 I think it's natural, you know, when one team is ahead, that people start looking into things. But for the moment, I think it's alright.

Speaker 122 I mean, we've had it before as well, where, you know, other teams have been dominating. And then at one point, of course, you know, there are rule changes and things get upset a bit.

Speaker 122 But that's how Formula One goes, you know.

Speaker 103 Yeah.

Speaker 21 So, Miami last year, there was a famous clip because we had one of the guys on the broadcast going around interviewing famous people.

Speaker 59 He was getting a bunch of them wrong because they were like American sports stars.

Speaker 35 Have you guys met anyone in America that you didn't know who it was?

Speaker 106 And then afterwards they're like, hey, that was someone pretty important.

Speaker 124 Chuck. Chuck LeClark.

Speaker 103 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 124 You know Chuck? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 34 Yeah, Charles LeClerc, yeah.

Speaker 100 So what he, you met him, yeah, Chuck.

Speaker 122 Chuck. I didn't know who Chuck was.

Speaker 79 I didn't find out it was Charles.

Speaker 97 Have you guys met like any big-time sports stars and stuff?

Speaker 21 Because it was very funny watching it when he would just go up.

Speaker 5 I think he walked past Patrick Mahomes or something.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he went up to Paolo Bancaro, the basketball player, and said, this is Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 37 Yeah, and it was like, that couldn't be more wrong.

Speaker 106 So has that happened to you guys now that you're getting bigger in America where you've met someone?

Speaker 120 I mean, at that time, especially in the grid,

Speaker 120 you see all these famous and all these cameras, but it's like you are just thinking about

Speaker 88 it.

Speaker 122 You don't look left or right.

Speaker 122 I think it's more or less the same for any sport. Like, if you are the one who has to play or drive or whatever, like, just pretty focus on what you have to do, especially when it's that crowded.

Speaker 122 I mean, it would be a bit like before you walk onto the pitch, right? If there are like fans just walking around, right?

Speaker 90 You know, it's a bit weird.

Speaker 122 Of course, we grew up like that, but at one point when it gets so crowded, you're like, whatever.

Speaker 103 Yeah, what's your name? Just do your thing.

Speaker 122 We are just busy and focus with our engineer to go through all the things before you even do the start, right? So you're pretty isolated in a way as well.

Speaker 7 Who is your favorite American? Who?

Speaker 120 My favorite American.

Speaker 21 Anyone in this room can be picked too?

Speaker 119 Anyone is this? Tough question. Anyone?

Speaker 88 There's

Speaker 36 Americans in this room.

Speaker 103 Looking around?

Speaker 122 Okay.

Speaker 7 Favorite American?

Speaker 122 I don't know. I don't have.
But I don't have a favorite.

Speaker 117 Daniel El Ricardo.

Speaker 36 He's an import.

Speaker 79 He's an import American.

Speaker 100 I really felt like he really made it now to the...

Speaker 103 That's perfect answer.

Speaker 59 Yeah, it was at the Met Gala.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 90 That's great.

Speaker 7 He does wish he was American. Yeah, he really does.

Speaker 120 I really think.

Speaker 7 The howdy hats, all that stuff.

Speaker 122 He arrived on a horse in the paddock.

Speaker 36 Yeah.

Speaker 67 So back to the start, when all those fans are on the track and then they get off and then you're ready to start.

Speaker 113 How, like, the seconds before you start.

Speaker 96 What's going to is your mind completely blank like I have to just nail this start and do you know right away like oh I missed that by a split second?

Speaker 21 Or, oh, that was an incredible start.

Speaker 33 I hated it.

Speaker 122 Yeah, well, you feel straight away if it's a good one or a bad one.

Speaker 121 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 122 Yeah. As soon as you release, like, the clutch, it's either wheel spin or it just accelerates.

Speaker 124 You know, so

Speaker 122 I think last year was okay.

Speaker 124 Yeah. But

Speaker 122 yeah, you had a good one. Yeah, it was all right.
I mean, I'd stop P3, but you know, also on a new track, like, it's the first time you're going to do a start into turn one.

Speaker 122 Like, there are a lot of things you don't really know about as well. So, yeah, it's a bit more exciting.

Speaker 36 Yes.

Speaker 21 And then, what about like if you guys, you know, sometimes there'll be crashes, sometimes there'll be things that you think someone else is doing something dangerous to you or vice versa.

Speaker 1 After the race, do you ever go up and talk to those guys?

Speaker 120 You didn't saw the last race, the last sprint race?

Speaker 103 No.

Speaker 110 You should watch it.

Speaker 118 Okay.

Speaker 121 Nothing happened. Yeah.

Speaker 36 Okay.

Speaker 103 So what happens after that? Do you go and talk to the guy?

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 122 Yeah, it depends, of course, how bad.

Speaker 122 If you really want to say something or question, yeah.

Speaker 120 Yeah, he had a word with one of the other drivers after the race. And is it like, but it doesn't get like because in NASCAR, like, they properly fight, they fist fight, yeah, they properly fight.

Speaker 122 Yeah, I'm in the wrong sport.

Speaker 7 Yeah, would you like to fight other drivers?

Speaker 119 No,

Speaker 122 no, I'm just honestly, I'm joking. Yeah, if I'm gonna say that, it's gonna be all over the place.
No, but I mean, sometimes, of course, you see that in NASCAR, right?

Speaker 103 They're a bit more, you know, it's not allowed. I mean,

Speaker 122 even if you grab someone like that, you get already two days of homework.

Speaker 103 Yeah, I've done that already.

Speaker 7 So they measure everything that happens on the track. They measure everything about the car.
They measure everything about driver's reaction time. There's so much that you have to look through.

Speaker 7 Is there ever, like, how do you sort what's important to pay attention to and what needs to be improved versus all the other numbers and data that's coming at you that doesn't really make a difference to you on a day-to-day basis?

Speaker 103 You're going to do one more.

Speaker 99 Can you repeat that one?

Speaker 7 It seems like they measure everything about like everything's tracked in every single race that you do. But that's like too much information for you to do.

Speaker 120 No, I think sorry, sorry, I got the question. I think at the end of the day, we have so much information to look through with the engineers and so on.

Speaker 120 You know, we have information about the gearbox, about the engine, about the

Speaker 120 tires, about the brakes. But at the end of the day, there is so much the driver can control.
And I find it useful that you just focus on things that you can change so that you can influence.

Speaker 120 Because if you try to focus on so many things at the end of the day, it just becomes so much. And there are drivers that can have more more stuff than others.

Speaker 120 And it's just down to you to feel what you're able to

Speaker 32 filter. Yeah.

Speaker 108 So off that, you guys are driving the car.

Speaker 21 You know the car better than the engineers. Are there times when you're like, hey, change this? And they say, No, we're not going to because we've we've planned this out.

Speaker 21 Like, who gets final say when it comes to the modifications of the car well

Speaker 122 i think if you really really want to then you put whatever you want on the car but it's also a working relationship right so i mean if you really force sometimes things through maybe engineer is not entirely happy other people around you so it's also sometimes a bit of a 50 50 scenario where you have to find a compromise right where

Speaker 122 Sometimes they come up with something and you come up with something which might be a little bit different and you're like, oh, should we go in the middle?

Speaker 122 So you just have to work together. That's why it's a team sport at the end of the day.

Speaker 122 And I mean, to just head-first, go into things and force things on the car is not always, I think, the right way to go.

Speaker 121 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I have a really dumb question. This is maybe dumber than the other ones that we've asked.

Speaker 120 Another one.

Speaker 103 Yeah, I have another one.

Speaker 79 We're really good at asking dumb questions.

Speaker 7 Are you better at turning left or turning right?

Speaker 33 Good question.

Speaker 120 Tough. I mean, I think in the circuit you have turns where

Speaker 120 you just they come more natural to you than others.

Speaker 120 You know, because you look at the data, at the telemetry, and you say, ah, I'm looking good at turn one, turn two, but then I'm missing to max on turn nine.

Speaker 120 And and uh you have to focus on turn nine, but normally it doesn't really matter if it's left or right.

Speaker 122 Right. Normally not.
I mean you do have a leading eye, which I do think has an influence on on things.

Speaker 122 But um

Speaker 122 yeah, it it's I think it's more the shape of corners. It doesn't really matter if it's left or right.
It's like just the speed or

Speaker 122 the angle, the degrees.

Speaker 120 It's actually a good question.

Speaker 119 Yeah, because

Speaker 7 they might track that. You might be just like slightly better at one direction.
Because like you said, deleting eye thing and also being right or left-handed might have like the tiniest bit.

Speaker 7 What does that mean, though, a leading eye?

Speaker 122 Well, I do feel well, I mean, you can see it, right?

Speaker 122 If you already put your hand in front of your eyes, like it it has there is a bit of a difference, so you you always see a bit better through one eye.

Speaker 122 And And I feel like sometimes you can look around the corner a bit better if it's, for me, to the right

Speaker 122 than a left-hand corner. But

Speaker 122 yeah, it's more like with some kind of reaction stuff, or, you know, when you're looking, you have to look straight, but then you have to touch bits on the left or the right.

Speaker 122 It can have a bit of an influence as well.

Speaker 122 Yeah. Maybe in F1, it's not as big, but...
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, so last question.

Speaker 21 You guys have been great.

Speaker 6 It's great having you on.

Speaker 21 Good luck with the rest of the the season.

Speaker 28 Can we get one last high five?

Speaker 7 I just want to see it one more time.

Speaker 120 Just so people can see it.

Speaker 117 See how much it depends on the other one.

Speaker 90 Yeah, like have we gotten better? So let's go a high five.

Speaker 82 Oh, no.

Speaker 7 You can tell you're a golfer because you didn't connect up.

Speaker 36 I think it didn't work.

Speaker 88 We got to end with a look.

Speaker 103 We got to end with a high five. Look.
Bam.

Speaker 79 See that?

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Speaker 103 You guys high five.

Speaker 90 Let's see the trust. Yes.
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Speaker 97 So thank you guys.

Speaker 120 We got to tell Christian. Yes, yes.

Speaker 115 Yeah.

Speaker 103 No, we're going to bill him $2 billion for what we've done today.

Speaker 100 Yeah.

Speaker 122 That's a good start.

Speaker 97 Good luck.

Speaker 120 If you get $200,

Speaker 117 you've done a good job.

Speaker 2 All right, well, thank you guys, and best of luck for the rest of the season.

Speaker 119 Thank you, guys.

Speaker 34 Thanks, guys. Thanks.

Speaker 7 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 89 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests, probably the longest-running

Speaker 1 thing that we do on the calendar.

Speaker 57 It's true.

Speaker 95 Randy Moss.

Speaker 3 For the Kentucky Derby, it is time.

Speaker 1 You can see him on NBC.

Speaker 57 He's going to be doing the Oaks on Friday.

Speaker 1 He's got the Kentucky Derby on Saturday.

Speaker 9 It's a great weekend for horse racing.

Speaker 48 Randy, let's start big picture.

Speaker 57 How are we feeling about the track weather, just general vibe for this year's Kentucky Derby?

Speaker 123 Well, it's Derby week, so you know it's going to rain. I think it's supposed to rain Friday for the Oaks, but and the weathermen are, you know, there's as bad handicappers as the rest of us.

Speaker 123 But what they say is that by the time we get to Saturday, it's going to be okay. And I mean, you know, Big Cad from the past, the racetrack at Churchill is

Speaker 123 so fast

Speaker 123 drying that it ought to be, if they're right, then it ought to be a pretty good, pretty good track Saturday. But it's looking good.
The horses are all,

Speaker 123 you know, all seem to be training pretty well. And the place looks good.

Speaker 123 They're redoing the paddock. And they did all they have a whole new grandstand area on the first turn that looks almost space age.
It looks like Arlington Park is really nice.

Speaker 123 So, yeah, all systems go.

Speaker 7 I'd love to make it to the Kentucky Derby at some point. That's that's on my bucket list of events.
I can't believe I haven't been there yet, but it seems like the most fun ever.

Speaker 7 I'm sure you still have a great time after, you know, you've been going for a really long time. It's still probably one of the best weekends of your year.

Speaker 7 Um, I haven't been paying that much attention to the storylines leading up to this year's Derby. Um, so really, all I know going into this derby, I think, is this the last year?

Speaker 7 Like, Bob Baffert's not allowed to be training any horses in this race, right? Besides that, maybe we can get back to that later. Besides that, what are the big storylines in this year's race?

Speaker 123 Well, there's a lot of them as always. And by the way, before you come to the Derby for the first time, go on to YouTube or Amazon or the internet and look up Hunter S.
Thompson, Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 123 Just Google that and read what the Louisville native Hunter S. Thompson has to say about the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 123 You'll be laughing for a week.

Speaker 7 That was my intro into the Kentucky Derby. The Kentucky Derby is decadent and depraved.
One of the best stories of all time.

Speaker 79 Yeah.

Speaker 123 Okay. You beat me to it then.
You've already done it.

Speaker 123 Storylines.

Speaker 123 Other than the Batford storyline, I think probably the number one storyline in this year's race is going to be the two Japanese horses in the race.

Speaker 123 Because Japanese horses, guys, are absolutely kicking ass worldwide. It's happened in Saudi Arabia, where they dominate.

Speaker 123 It's happened in Dubai, where this year in the UAE Derby, they ran one, two, three, four. They won the Dubai World Cup.
The number one rated horse in the world is a Japanese turf horse.

Speaker 123 They won at the Breeders' Cup here the last time they had runners. They had two winners, including one that looked like she had absolutely no chance at all.
They've won in Australia, wherever they go.

Speaker 123 The Japanese horses right now are, they look like the best horses in the world.

Speaker 123 And it got to the point that in the san anita derby this year they shipped a horse from japan that ran at a b-level racetrack in japan a horse called mandarin hero and he got beat that far in the san anita derby uh so there are two horses in the japanese horses in the derby this year one of them is my pick to win the derby uh he's probably going to be seven eight nine 10 to one His name is Derma Sotogake.

Speaker 111 And

Speaker 123 in my eyes, not only do you have the Japanese dominance right now, but to me, he looks like the fastest horse in the race. So I think it's, you know, keep it simple, stupid, right?

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, and I think you said it last year. Maybe it was a private conversation, but the Japanese horse racing has had a boom recently.

Speaker 26 But isn't it, and I may have this wrong, but it all goes back to, is it Seattle Slough?

Speaker 115 What was the horse that basically

Speaker 34 was the start,

Speaker 123 the come of that horse, for lack of a better term, was the start of all these japanese horses and now they're you know generations down the line and it's all starting to become this like huge huge thing yeah you got the right story by the horse was sunday silent that's right who won the kentucky won the kentucky derby and the creepness and the breeders cup classic in 1989 when he retired to stud

Speaker 123 None of the American breeders were excited about him at all. They didn't really want to breed to him.

Speaker 123 So the owner of the horse, Arthur Hancock, from Kentucky, got this fantastic offer from the Japanese, and he needed the money to save the farm.

Speaker 123 The farm was in some financial difficulty because there was an economic downturn. So he sold Sunday Silence against really his best wishes to the Japanese.

Speaker 123 And Sunday Silence became one of, if not the most influential sires in the world.

Speaker 123 And almost all of these Japanese horses, including the two that we'll see in the Derby, trace back in their pedigree two, three generations back to Sunday Silence.

Speaker 123 It's been the bedrock of this Japanese resurgence in horse racing.

Speaker 32 Yeah, it's fascinating that it all goes back to Sunday Silence.

Speaker 7 Do the horses care about time zones? Do you have to get the Japanese horses in ahead of time?

Speaker 7 Because, I mean, if you just ship a horse over from Japan, I have to imagine like it is halfway around the world. Day is night, night is day.

Speaker 123 Yeah, yeah, that's the

Speaker 123 only conceivable drawback to this horse running in the Kentucky Derby and his chances to win is travel.

Speaker 123 That's what people will cite if they say they don't like Dermasota Gake, because he went from, obviously, from Japan to Saudi Arabia, and he ran in the big Saudi race for three-year-olds.

Speaker 123 And then he went from Saudi to Dubai, which is just a puddle jump. And he won the UAE Derby by five and a half links or something like that.
And then from Dubai to the United States.

Speaker 123 But he's been here for quite a while. He's had a a chance to acclimate in the flesh.
He looks great.

Speaker 123 He hasn't lost any weight.

Speaker 123 His workouts have been really good,

Speaker 123 really nice looking horse.

Speaker 123 And so, you know, I'm going to try not to get too deep into the weeds on the travel and just trust the Japanese because they certainly know, they've proven that they know how to travel with their horses and succeed.

Speaker 63 Yeah. So

Speaker 1 Derma Sotagate, which will probably take some money because of what you said, you know, Japanese horses, the UA Derby, everything. Forte is the favorite, three to one right now.

Speaker 1 Where do you think the price is going to land with the favorite?

Speaker 70 Is it going to be a horse that is, like, is Forte a horse that is that much better than everyone else that everyone's going to wake up and the casual betters are going to get in on it?

Speaker 1 Or is this something that maybe it goes, maybe three to one, it goes four to one?

Speaker 123 Yeah, I think the latter. I think it goes seven to two, four to one.

Speaker 123 There's not a lot of love right now from some of the big big betters out there for forte and it's not just because he's the favorite and they're trying to beat the favorite he he's the most accomplished horse in the race he was the two-year-old champion last year he won the breeders' cup juvenile he's only been beaten once in his career but his win last time out in the florida derby was not

Speaker 123 visually the type of race that you would like to see if you're going to bet a kentucky derby favorite it looked like it left to me and a lot of people it left a lot to be desired yeah so i think forte

Speaker 123 is definitely a favorite to try to take a stand against. And another reason to like the Japanese horse is that the American three-year-olds this year, they're okay.

Speaker 123 I wouldn't say they're bad, but it's a pretty average group right now on paper.

Speaker 7 I think we ask this question every year, but who is the

Speaker 34 wildcard horse?

Speaker 7 Like the Draymond Green of horses that will, you know, liable to freak out, maybe cause a ruckus when they first get started, but ultimately could be a horse that could make some noise.

Speaker 123 Tappett Tappett Trice is his name.

Speaker 56 Okay.

Speaker 123 And he's actually going to be the second favorite in the race, but he comes from the same barn as Forte. Todd Fletcher is the trainer.

Speaker 123 Tappet Trice is a horse that's got just a world of talent,

Speaker 123 but

Speaker 123 he doesn't like the starting gate. He breaks slowly from the starting gate in most all of his races.
He doesn't like to run inside of horses. He gets kind of claustrophobic.

Speaker 123 When horses start to come over on him, he kind of freaks out a little bit. He doesn't necessarily like dirt hitting him in the face, and he's in a 20-horse field.

Speaker 61 Tough birds are going to be a little bit more. He doesn't.

Speaker 123 Yeah, he doesn't. He's not the kind of horse that can get stopped in traffic and then pick it right back up again.
It takes him a while.

Speaker 123 He's like a locomotive that, you know, when he gets rolling, he can really roll. But it takes him a while to get going.
And he's not a stop and start kind of horse to go through traffic.

Speaker 123 So all of those things are going to work against him in a 20-horse field. But he'll be, they'll try to get him wide.

Speaker 123 So he's outside and he's out of all the kickback and he doesn't have to stop and start and if he doesn't get caught too wide if he doesn't lose too much ground he he can really run so this this uh

Speaker 64 race

Speaker 5 feels like won't be one of those kentucky derbies where this pace is insane right to start who does that favor so like it's going to be a little bit slower to start not one of those ones where it's like holy shit they're going so fast who which which horses in the field does that favor knowing that the pace probably won't be blistering right out of the gate?

Speaker 123 Number one on the top of that list is Dermasota Gakke, who went wire to wire in the UAE Derby, but he doesn't have to be in front.

Speaker 123 It was the only time in his life he's ever actually gone to the early lead. So he's versatile.
He's adaptable. He can go either way, but he'll be really close.

Speaker 123 The other horse is a horse called Verfying,

Speaker 123 who

Speaker 123 didn't get the best draw. He's in post-position number two, but he's got some early speed as well.

Speaker 123 Those are the two horses I think that are going to be favored the most, it looks like, by what the pace is going to be. And with the Japanese horse, guys, the one thing I'm worried about,

Speaker 123 the main thing I'm worried about, and I don't ordinarily put a whole lot of stock in the jockeys, because when you get to the Kentucky Derby, this level,

Speaker 123 the jockeys, there's not a lot of difference between your iRed Ortiz's and, you know, your Floppy and Prats. And you can just pick them out of a hat.
It really doesn't make much difference.

Speaker 123 But Derby Sodogake is ridden by a Frenchman named Christophe Le Maire, who has relocated to Japan, and he's one of the leading riders in Japan. Not all that familiar with American dirt racing.

Speaker 123 And last year, he had a mountain in the Kentucky Derby on another Japanese horse called Crown Pride, who was also the UAE Derby winner. Didn't look as good as Dermasotagake, but he wasn't a bad horse.

Speaker 123 He left the starting gate like he was in a corner horse race. Christophe Le Maire was like almost in a drive out of the starting gate.

Speaker 123 And he hooked up with another foreign jockey on a horse called Summer is Tomorrow.

Speaker 123 And they went the first quarter mile in a sprint time, 21 and three-fifth seconds. It was the fastest opening quarter mile in the history of the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 123 So hopefully Christophe Le Maire has learned something from his last year's mount in the Kentucky Derby, which was his last American dirt race, by the way.

Speaker 123 And he won't ride Dermasotagocke the same way that that he rode Crown Pride. Fingers crossed.

Speaker 21 So speaking of that, last year's race obviously was a memorable one because of Rich Strike at 80 to 1.

Speaker 95 You know how gambling works.

Speaker 70 People will take that from last year and be like, well, it's going to happen again.

Speaker 6 Let's find the long shot on the board.

Speaker 26 So I'm not saying it's going to happen again.

Speaker 42 But if you had to pick a horse that was 30 to 1 or more, that has,

Speaker 15 hey, this could be another magical ride,

Speaker 48 Which horse would it be?

Speaker 123 Probably a horse named Hitchho,

Speaker 123 who was second in the Wood Memorial. The Wood Memorial is not going to get a lot of love because it's a race that's really kind of falling on hard times as an effective Kentucky Derby prep race.

Speaker 123 This year was kind of a slow running as well. It's kind of messy race, three horses at the wire together, bumping and grinding.

Speaker 123 But Hitch Show, I think, is going to get a little bit overlooked because of that. He's trained by Brad Cox.
He's got four horses in the Derby.

Speaker 123 Brad's one of the very best trainers in the business. He's on a real roll right now.
And I think Hit Show would be the most likely, you know, big long shot to win.

Speaker 35 He's not 80 to 1 like Rich Strike.

Speaker 42 Yeah.

Speaker 26 And now Hitch Show's on the rail.

Speaker 71 And you, you know, we've learned that the gate has changed.

Speaker 70 They changed the gate a few years ago.

Speaker 1 Has it made the rail a lot better?

Speaker 48 Has it changed it like to a point where the rail is not something people should be afraid of like years past the Kentucky Derby?

Speaker 123 First of all, my opinion, and it happens to be a minority opinion, but I can back it up with statistics. The rail was never as bad as people like to make it out to be.
Okay.

Speaker 123 And as a matter of fact, if you go back 30 years in the Kentucky Derby, on average, horses breaking from the number one post position outran their odds.

Speaker 123 Now, you could, there were certain horses who, with the running style, that could be disadvantaged by having the rail, but most of the time, racing on the inside is the shortest way around and it actually could benefit a horse.

Speaker 123 But yes, one of the big disadvantages in the old way, in the old starting gate at Churchill Hounds, they used two starting gates, right? They didn't have one huge 20-horse starting gate.

Speaker 123 They had two 14-horse gates that they sort of put end-to-end.

Speaker 123 or maybe a 14 and a 10, I think it was.

Speaker 123 And as a result, the horse that broke from the rail in order to fit both gates onto the racetrack when they left the gate the horse was looking right into the bend of the rail as it turned down the stretch so the jockeys would have to maneuver out around that bend in the rail and it could cause some issues now with the new starting gate at churchill downs it's a 120 horse gate so it's not as wide and the number one post position no longer has that disadvantage.

Speaker 123 They can run a straight line and not have to worry about it.

Speaker 7 Interesting. All right.
So back to Bob Baffert. It's his last year suspended from the Kentucky Derby, but he's in litigation, right? So he's kind of like taking his time on this.

Speaker 7 Maybe I'm not well read enough on the story, but the way I've read it is that he's kind of extended his own issues with the Derby by taking this whole thing to court and exhausting all of his legal options.

Speaker 7 But is this the last year that he will be suspended from the Derby?

Speaker 123 Yes, this is the last year that Baffert will be suspended from the Derby.

Speaker 123 Look, there is certainly no love loft between Churchill Downs and Bob Bafford. And as soon as they handed down a two-year suspension, it was guaranteed or two-year ban.

Speaker 123 It was guaranteed that there was going to be no love lost between them.

Speaker 123 Bafford has fought everything in court that he could possibly fight.

Speaker 123 And so far, even in the cases that it looked like he might have a chance, you know, to at least get some sort of relief, he's been shot down every time by the Kentucky court system.

Speaker 123 It's gotten to the point where if you go to Bob's old barn at Churchill Downs,

Speaker 123 which used to be covered with signs

Speaker 123 about Bob's previous six Derby winners,

Speaker 123 and it was like a shrine to the Bafford stable. It was tastefully done, but it was

Speaker 123 his barn. It was Bob's barn.
And it stayed there year round and it was like a tourist attraction. You can't find any trace of Bob Bafford Bafford on the Churchill Downs backstretch.

Speaker 123 They've pretty much like whitewashed Bob Bafford from the history of the Kentucky Derby,

Speaker 123 at least visually when you come to the dragon for the backside.

Speaker 123 So yeah, there's a lot of animosity, I think, between Bafford and Churchill Downs, and it'll be interesting to see how that plays out when he's back at Churchill Downs.

Speaker 123 almost certainly with some high-level horses next year. Yeah.

Speaker 63 Okay.

Speaker 97 So I have a couple last questions.

Speaker 35 Always great to see you, Randy.

Speaker 1 It's like the best.

Speaker 19 I just love this

Speaker 2 like stretch when we have all the playoffs and then Kentucky Derby comes and we get to see your face and it's like, it's all happening.

Speaker 57 All right.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about the Oaks in a second, but give us one last thing on the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 2 I love playing exotics.

Speaker 20 I love building just ridiculous tickets.

Speaker 57 What horse should I have added that you know is like, hey, they might not be there, but they're a great finisher. And if you're trying to hit a try, like you probably want to have them as part of it.

Speaker 123 If you're looking for a big long shot to go into the try, other than hit show, I would say a horse called Disarm,

Speaker 123 who's going to be a stretch runner who's doing really well.

Speaker 123 You know, there's not a lot of speed in the race on paper, so that's not going to help him. We talked about that.
But my exacta right now is the Derma Sotagaki and a horse called Verifying.

Speaker 123 We talked about those two as being the ones that could benefit the most from the pace. And while you're betting,

Speaker 123 bring a little extra money because the race before the Kentucky Derby Okay. It's a race called the Old Forrester Turf Classic.
It's a mile and an eighth on the grass, right?

Speaker 123 There is a horse in the race called Up to the Mark

Speaker 123 that I am really excited to bet on. He's trained by Todd Fletcher.
Love all of his recent races.

Speaker 123 He might not even be the favorite, probably second choice, but he's a horse you can bet on in the race before the Derby.

Speaker 123 And then maybe you can have a little bit more ammunition, right, when he gets the Derby race itself.

Speaker 71 Okay. I like it.
Now, what about Oaks?

Speaker 97 Do you have a pick for us in the Oaks?

Speaker 123 It's kind of a bad Oaks, honestly. It really is.

Speaker 123 It's a pretty lackluster group of horses. To me, it's going to be hard to beat the favorite.
The favorite's name is Wet Paint.

Speaker 123 She's a horse that's won, I think, three races in a row all at Oakland Park.

Speaker 123 It comes from last, which is pretty unusual for a horse to be that consistently a winner on dirt with that kind of running style.

Speaker 123 She's two of her races have been on wet racetracks. So if the weatherman is right and it rains on Friday, that might even brew her up.

Speaker 123 And there is another horse in the race called South Lawn, one word,

Speaker 123 who's also really in good form right now.

Speaker 123 So, it's nothing, you know, not telling you anything that a lot of other people couldn't get out of the racing form, but I like a wet paint, South Lawn exactly.

Speaker 7 Okay, wet paint. I feel like that's a name that there has to have been another horse named Wet Paint before, right?

Speaker 123 Probably, I don't know. I didn't look it up.

Speaker 123 It's owned by Godolphin,

Speaker 123 So Godolphin is Sheikh Muhammad, the ruler of Dubai. Yeah.
And sometimes he names all these horses like with Arabic names that are hard to pronounce and nobody knows what they actually mean.

Speaker 123 But wet paint.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I feel like there should be some sort of, somebody should be keeping track of that, make sure that we don't have any duplicate named horses.

Speaker 59 Also, do you know...

Speaker 56 Oh, they do. They do.

Speaker 115 Oh, really?

Speaker 123 Yeah. Very strict rules about the reuse of names.
There has to be a certain waiting period. If a horse is really good, and like a standing at stud or a brood mare or

Speaker 123 a major stakes winner, that name gets thrown out and you can't use it anymore. Like there won't be, there'll never be another Seattle slew or a firm,

Speaker 123 you know, or Sunday Silence for that matter. So yeah, they keep pretty close tags on.

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Speaker 1 The last thing I had, and this is more of a horse racing as a sport in general, and I don't know what you can do.

Speaker 2 You're a powerful man. Maybe you can talk to someone.

Speaker 113 I was at the Breeders this past fall.

Speaker 70 Flight line,

Speaker 97 I'll say it was the best horse I've ever seen.

Speaker 26 It was incredible.

Speaker 57 And I got to see American Pharaoh at the Breeders as well.

Speaker 1 There has to be, there should be a rule that you have to race a certain amount of races because what happened is, I think a lot of people tuned in and like just anecdotally like friends hitting me up being like this horse is incredible why why is it not racing anymore it's like well it makes so much more money going to stud than continuing to race but flight line was that type of horse that you saw and it took your breath away and every i mean what it race five races four races like Every single race was the same thing of like, oh my God, I can't believe how good this horse is.

Speaker 113 Can we change this?

Speaker 1 Can we fix this?

Speaker 70 They have to race again.

Speaker 123 You know, it's it's money. You, you said it.

Speaker 123 Horses can make way more money, like Lightline, that good. Way more money at stud than they can ever hope to make on the racetrack.
It could be changed, Big Cat, but there's only one way to do it.

Speaker 123 And it would have to be done worldwide, not just in the United States, but it would benefit every country, really.

Speaker 123 And the breed, and the breeders would fight it because of the money involved. But here it is, and I've been saying this for years: a rule in the book that says that

Speaker 123 no horse can race, okay, unless the stallion and the dam were at least five years old

Speaker 123 at the time of conception.

Speaker 123 Put in, yeah. Which means horses would have to stay in training throughout their, they couldn't just retire at the end of their three-year-old year.
They would have to stay in training.

Speaker 123 as a four-year-old. Now, with flight line,

Speaker 123 it wouldn't have made a difference to flight line because he was already four. He had had some, you know, some injuries early in his career and some setbacks that had put him behind schedule.

Speaker 123 And that's why he only had only run, you know, so few times. So it wouldn't necessarily have resulted in Flightline staying.

Speaker 123 But there are a lot of really, like American Pharaoh, a lot of really good horses that get retired after their three-year-old season because the money is so overwhelming. It's stuff.

Speaker 123 Look at Flightline, right?

Speaker 123 I think they retired him as stud for a $200,000 stud fee.

Speaker 59 Okay.

Speaker 123 They could breed Flight Line easily,

Speaker 123 conservatively, to 150 mares.

Speaker 103 Whoa.

Speaker 123 That's $30 million

Speaker 123 the first year for Flight Line.

Speaker 123 So horses typically have breed three different years,

Speaker 123 really two before you see their offspring. and breeders have a chance to look at the babies and see how good they look and all that.
So that's a guaranteed 60 mil

Speaker 123 before you ever know how good the babies look and 90 mil before you ever see them run.

Speaker 123 It's not. So the money is absurd.
It's absurd. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 123 The only way to change it would be something like I said.

Speaker 1 And it would feel like more of a long play if people could get together because, again, it's like people, you know, it's similar to sports.

Speaker 15 You root for the teams that you know, the players you know.

Speaker 48 If you have these horses that are exceptional, and if American Pharaoh keeps racing after, you know, the breeders after it retired, people will tune in because they're like, oh, I know that name.

Speaker 42 So I don't know.

Speaker 29 It just

Speaker 5 is a bummer sometimes when you see a horse like that.

Speaker 1 And like you said, Flightline was already old enough.

Speaker 3 But when you see a horse like that, you're like, all I want to do is see this horse run again.

Speaker 19 Like I want to see this horse run and race.

Speaker 33 I don't care about the $30 million just going in someone's pocket.

Speaker 53 But I know that's not how the world works.

Speaker 123 You've just hit on the single biggest problem in horse racing right now.

Speaker 121 Yeah.

Speaker 123 That's it.

Speaker 123 The early retirement of superstars.

Speaker 7 You know what they call that when horses take time off from racing so they can just breed all the time?

Speaker 7 Load management. Load management.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 113 Was Flightline one of the best horses you ever saw?

Speaker 123 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 123 Secretariat was the best story. I didn't see him in the flesh.
I watched him as a kid on TV.

Speaker 123 The three best, or about to say four, the four best horses that I've, that I've, since I've been around following it, were Secretariat,

Speaker 123 Flight Line,

Speaker 123 Spectacular Bid,

Speaker 123 and American Pharaoh.

Speaker 114 Damn, I got to see two of them at the Breeders.

Speaker 100 I feel fortunate.

Speaker 123 Yeah, I would put them in

Speaker 123 that order. Wow.
And I know some people think it's heresy to say that Flight Line was better than American Pharaoh because American Pharaoh was obviously a really good horse.

Speaker 123 I just think that the Flightline was better.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And the beauty of horse racing is you can say, like, if Secretary was in this Kentucky Kentucky Derby, they would dust him, right? Secretary would be in favor.

Speaker 79 Oh, right.

Speaker 94 Oh, he.

Speaker 123 Because Secretariat, when he won the Kentucky Derby, he had to beat a horse who would have won the Triple Crown any other year. Yeah.
Right. And the horse's name was Sham.

Speaker 123 And to this day, Sham has run the second fastest Kentucky Derby in history.

Speaker 7 That's crazy. Sham got a real raw deal.

Speaker 42 Yeah.

Speaker 123 Yes. Sham Sham got an extremely raw deal.
Yeah.

Speaker 79 That's

Speaker 123 the best horses that nobody considers to be an all-time great.

Speaker 61 That's tough. Tough break.

Speaker 95 All right.

Speaker 3 Well, Randy, thank you as always. You are the best.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 70 Good luck.

Speaker 32 Everyone tune in.

Speaker 1 See him on Friday and Saturday.

Speaker 12 And

Speaker 113 maybe we got to talk before the preakness.

Speaker 123 All right. Whenever, guys, love watching you.
Keep it up.

Speaker 7 Thanks, Randy.

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Speaker 74 hank

Speaker 44 dan go ahead so yeah i mean i don't i think part of it not to throw blame around but i think a lot of it might be your fault uh and your propaganda machine talking about how much i golf because i just started golfing you know a couple years ago Where's this going?

Speaker 54 We put out our

Speaker 88 ongoing golf video.

Speaker 38 Oh, no.

Speaker 44 Shout out to Yandle Sonk.

Speaker 44 We put out our golf video. It's on YouTube now.
Me and Big Cat Brisbane, PFT, and Arian. And the response is overwhelmingly negative.
People were just roasting my golf game.

Speaker 44 I'm a little bit, you know, vulgar.

Speaker 72 Do you think I did that too?

Speaker 44 I think you have, I think your

Speaker 44 over-exaggeration of how much I golf. I think you're creating this narrative that people expected me to be better than I am, I guess.
I don't know.

Speaker 7 I think we talk about you golfing the exact correct amount that you golf. Correct.
Have we ever said that you're going golfing when you're not actually going golfing?

Speaker 32 Probably. So, all right, so we filmed this video.

Speaker 20 We actually did two videos.

Speaker 10 The other one's going to be out on Macro Dosing today at noon.

Speaker 75 So go check it out, Macro Dosing YouTube.

Speaker 54 So we've played these two golf videos.

Speaker 18 What did you do after?

Speaker 44 Well, I had a flight because I had a

Speaker 84 trip to

Speaker 58 vacation.

Speaker 57 So, what did you do before you got on your flight?

Speaker 62 Well, I had hours.

Speaker 44 I had a lot of time. Just answer the question.

Speaker 52 What did you do?

Speaker 44 I stuck around.

Speaker 47 And you at the golf course?

Speaker 7 What did you do at the golf course?

Speaker 44 I mean, there's nothing else to do. I had to golf.

Speaker 92 And then when you flew to your vacation, what did you do on your vacation?

Speaker 44 I hung out with my family and my niece and nephew who I never met before and spent quality family time. And then one day

Speaker 83 went golfing. Just one day.

Speaker 81 Well, one day I went my brother.

Speaker 44 Okay, one day I went with my brother, so that counts as family time.

Speaker 3 And then the other day you played 36?

Speaker 44 No.

Speaker 56 18.

Speaker 75 I played 36 the whole week.

Speaker 7 What I love is I get notifications every time Hank does not.

Speaker 83 This is bad.

Speaker 46 I've had to thought about it.

Speaker 80 So pull it up and see how many rounds he has.

Speaker 127 I was talking about blocking PFT on this.

Speaker 7 Let's check it out.

Speaker 39 How many rounds has he played?

Speaker 7 What I'll do is I'll just text Hank after he's owned his first. I'll be like, that's a tough triple bog.

Speaker 78 I want to be on this.

Speaker 59 I'm trying to get...

Speaker 83 No. No.

Speaker 44 This is like when Dave used to have my Snapchat, and I didn't realize it, and I had to block him on there. Let's see.

Speaker 22 2013.

Speaker 44 I'm trying to find my friends on those five.

Speaker 42 Okay, here we go.

Speaker 14 So, what's the problem?

Speaker 7 You golf a lot. You have a 20.5 handicap.
Is that good?

Speaker 44 I think that's decent. That's the thing.
I don't think I'm that good at golf.

Speaker 44 The problem is that everyone is being really mean to me and saying how bad I am at golf when I have never myself said that I am good.

Speaker 44 That is my firefest. That is where this issue lies.
Is people, I think, were expecting unfairly me to be really good at golf, despite the fact that I have never said that I am.

Speaker 23 Can I throw out just a thought?

Speaker 65 Yes.

Speaker 44 Just a thought. I need to golf more to get better.
No, no, no.

Speaker 14 No, no, no.

Speaker 27 You watch a lot of golf videos online.

Speaker 84 I do.

Speaker 98 You like watching golf videos.

Speaker 44 I'm a big fan.

Speaker 75 Have you ever noticed that golf videos, every person in the comments says, picks apart everyone's swing and says why they're better?

Speaker 89 Have you noticed that Max Homa, his entire, like for a year, had a shtick where he would roast people's swings?

Speaker 20 Has that registered at all?

Speaker 1 That no matter what you look like on that course, people would say, find something to pick you apart.

Speaker 44 That's a fair point.

Speaker 22 That's a fair counterpoint.

Speaker 59 That's fair.

Speaker 3 There's two things people like in life: golf and telling everyone else their golf swing sucks.

Speaker 29 Those are like the two biggest golf hobbies out there.

Speaker 7 Okay, so it looks like Hank played on the 28th. He played on the 26th.
I took a big break off, played on the 21st, played on the 19th, played on the 17th.

Speaker 34 So either nine holes though.

Speaker 7 Oh, and the 16th. Okay.
16th and 17th.

Speaker 22 How many holes, though?

Speaker 7 Then the seventh. Okay.
And the sixth. Those were the, yeah, it looks like you played 36 holes in San Diego.

Speaker 58 Okay.

Speaker 7 And then you played with us in Houston.

Speaker 29 So you've had a busy month.

Speaker 18 Nine rounds in April.

Speaker 7 That's pretty good. It looks about right.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 That's a decent amount of golf, I would say.

Speaker 104 I'd say most people aren't playing nine rounds in a month.

Speaker 44 Some of those are nine holes. That's really probably like six total.
Whatever.

Speaker 31 All I know is I'm

Speaker 79 a lot of time with the range.

Speaker 44 My vow and my promise to the AWLs is that I'm going to put the work in

Speaker 44 so that I can live up to the expectations.

Speaker 83 But you do realize.

Speaker 7 It's very big of you.

Speaker 44 Even if I have this narrative that all I do is golf, I might as well golf all the time.

Speaker 79 Even if you... yep, you guys.

Speaker 7 Good job, guys. You've done it.
You've talked Hank into playing more golf. I hope you're happy with yourselves.

Speaker 20 You could shoot a 72 at Shinnecock like I did. And if it was on video, people would be like, wow, you suck.

Speaker 10 No way did you shoot a 72.

Speaker 44 No, but the score stands for itself. Right.

Speaker 44 I got that handicap down. It's all right.
The narrative started now. You guys have created this monster, and I'm just going to live it.

Speaker 3 Do they kick you off the

Speaker 32 website if you put in fake scores?

Speaker 7 I don't know how that works.

Speaker 60 I'm going to become a scratch golfer by the end end of the week.

Speaker 43 Okay.

Speaker 14 PFT.

Speaker 7 All right. So my fire fest of the week is something I'd forgotten about

Speaker 7 until just earlier today. It was a big future me thing, and things have been in limbo for a while as different things were being analyzed and okayed through higher ups.

Speaker 7 But I can say now I am going to be going up in an F-18

Speaker 7 next week. Next week?

Speaker 7 No, not next. No, it's in like two weeks.
It's in like two weeks.

Speaker 7 But it's something that I really never had to actually think about doing until the final process was complete. So my physical came back.
I'm built like a shit brick house. They're cool with it.

Speaker 7 The Navy's fine with it.

Speaker 74 Obviously, Jesus.

Speaker 7 I could have told you that.

Speaker 7 I'm going up in a Navy F-18, so I'm going to hit the simulator pretty hard over the next couple of weeks and get my mind right, get prepared for it.

Speaker 7 So in case something happens to the pilot, I can take over the six and land.

Speaker 44 Should we take another trip to the Empire State Building?

Speaker 7 No, no, no. It's different.
It's different. They were very clear.

Speaker 7 A crippling fear of heights is not an issue. If I had had a fear of like enclosed spaces, if I was claustrophobic.

Speaker 78 I actually agree with you.

Speaker 43 I actually agree with that because the one time I went skydiving, you're so high up that it, it's not like heights because it doesn't, it doesn't seem real.

Speaker 20 I would.

Speaker 10 Like it's, it's scarier when you're skydiving.

Speaker 75 It's less scary to be jumping out of the plane than it is to be like 300 feet off the ground.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I would shit myself if I went skydiving. I'm probably going to piss myself in the F-18.
Probably. I'm probably going to puke.

Speaker 61 Probably going to piss. Piss dogs, bro.

Speaker 7 Piss dogs. The content will probably be funny watching me just get terrified up there.
How is this for? It's during a NASCAR race in Poconos. Nice.
And there's an air show going on that week. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So they're sending me up.

Speaker 44 Where is the Poconos? It sounds like such a cool place.

Speaker 7 Yeah, South Pacific, I thought. But if you, if you go...

Speaker 10 I actually had that same problem because it was like...

Speaker 28 The cat skills and the Poconos kind of, like they're kind of the same.

Speaker 32 It feels like the same thing, but they're not.

Speaker 7 Yeah. And then there's the Finger Lakes.
Yep. Urban Meyer's got a house there.
Yep.

Speaker 61 Yeah.

Speaker 52 I've won in some races in the Finger Lakes.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I'm going to be terrified basically non-stop for the next three weeks as I anticipate going up in this plane.

Speaker 45 You got this.

Speaker 109 But again,

Speaker 7 I will do some Ghost of Manhattan work and get back to work in the simulator because

Speaker 7 I've been forgetting to do that. I'm losing some of my training.

Speaker 83 And yeah, I'm...

Speaker 44 You're not actually flying the plane, right? Oh, he might.

Speaker 7 They might let me fly. You never know.
If there's a Chinese weather balloon up there, if it flies, it dies. I'm shutting that motherfucker down.
Yep.

Speaker 7 I don't know if it's going going to have missiles on it. I'll bring my own.
I'll bring my own missile.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 60 Just right before, just make sure that they have some missiles on it.

Speaker 10 All right, Max, do you want to do a fire fest?

Speaker 91 What? Memes? Memes has a fire fest?

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, memes.

Speaker 93 Oh, no.

Speaker 67 Okay, memes.

Speaker 93 Memes doesn't want to be on camera.

Speaker 43 Uh-oh. Pop squad.

Speaker 111 Don't say that.

Speaker 43 Uh-oh.

Speaker 105 I will shit myself on the plane here.

Speaker 78 Oh, yeah. You texted.

Speaker 80 Almost.

Speaker 77 You texted.

Speaker 44 What do you mean, almost?

Speaker 7 You texted the group and then you never followed up.

Speaker 58 Yeah, it was a catastrophe.

Speaker 112 So get on the plane, sit down,

Speaker 115 take off.

Speaker 7 Yes, we know planes work.

Speaker 112 Immediate pain in my stomach.

Speaker 74 Okay.

Speaker 109 I was like, all right, I'm going to have to shit at some point. I'll just hold it.

Speaker 43 Aisle or window?

Speaker 36 Aisle.

Speaker 43 Okay.

Speaker 76 Two hours into the flight.

Speaker 3 You held it.

Speaker 103 Held it.

Speaker 79 Why?

Speaker 85 See, I thought I thought I could make it.

Speaker 38 Built different.

Speaker 41 Immediate pain.

Speaker 38 Wait.

Speaker 29 You thought you could make it to just another toilet that's just as shitty?

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You wanted to make it to a land-based toilet?

Speaker 45 You wanted to make it to an airport toilet.

Speaker 16 Okay.

Speaker 7 Boots on the ground.

Speaker 112 And I was sitting one seat away from first class.

Speaker 83 All right. So.

Speaker 112 One seat away from first class, they get all their food.

Speaker 60 So close, you can taste it.

Speaker 105 Immediate pain. I get paralyzed pretty much.

Speaker 109 I was like, this is about to all just come out.

Speaker 112 I run to the front of the plane.

Speaker 70 Oh, no. They're like, get out of here.

Speaker 112 Pretty much. The lady had the cart.

Speaker 109 She was like, can't go here.

Speaker 83 Got to go to the back.

Speaker 105 So I'm speedwalking through the entire plane looking around. Hank's passed out in the middle of the aisle.

Speaker 13 Obviously.

Speaker 112 I make it to the back.

Speaker 76 I was just panicking.

Speaker 90 I was like, where's the bathroom?

Speaker 105 She points right there. We go in.
It's like a closet.

Speaker 78 It was just.

Speaker 7 What's funny is like a lot of people are like, has memes ever been on a plane before? And the reality is, this is memes probably like fourth plane right now.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 105 And then I get done.

Speaker 105 I come out and there's just a massive line down the entire airplane.

Speaker 58 It was just brutal. So

Speaker 7 you shit yourself before you got to the toilet.

Speaker 109 Yeah, a little bit came out.

Speaker 83 And then

Speaker 58 I was just running through.

Speaker 112 Hanks passed out. It was just so funny.

Speaker 105 One kid smiled at me.

Speaker 82 I think it was AWOL, but like, AWOL.

Speaker 56 awl ow ow all yeah

Speaker 56 so wait

Speaker 59 what'd you do with the underwear oh i threw it out it's captain america underwear oh no you want it yeah it's tough you have great taste fun also if you're watching the youtube max is wearing the puke shirt today just a little fun fact max wears a puke shirt every day

Speaker 7 like it's crazy oh i think i personally think max needs to bring back the pants yeah next game if it's really you can't lose you got to wear the pants james harden would yep one quick note about passed out obviously i was passed out i passed out every flight.

Speaker 44 And I think I've talked about this before, how sometimes I sleep talk and snore. I know that.
People have told me that before, but no one ever tells me on a plane.

Speaker 44 And I was sitting next to this French kid. He was probably like, I don't know, 14, 17 range.

Speaker 44 And when we were landing, I woke up and he was giving me a look like some shit went on when I was.

Speaker 127 You popped a boner. Like he was like, yeah, you know, you popped a boner.

Speaker 44 He was giving me like just a look of like, and I like wanted to ask him, but I also was like, if he's not going to say something, I'm not going to ask him.

Speaker 39 You had a boner.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 either that or you just made your standard mouth noises and yeah or sleep talking he's probably going to go back to france and be like americans they all do this when they sleep you had a boner next to a kid 14 year old french kid

Speaker 127 anything could have happened yeah

Speaker 44 i mean their culture yeah it's fine yeah that's completely acceptable it was like uh i would describe it like the last scene of inception when everyone wakes up and they're like looking at each other That was me and this kid.

Speaker 44 Like he was giving me a look. I was like, look.

Speaker 20 Well, you might have just started the weird looks.

Speaker 56 No idea when you wake up.

Speaker 127 Well, that's true.

Speaker 52 You could have just got woken up and just started giving him a weird look.

Speaker 14 And he's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 68 Okay.

Speaker 14 My fire is also airport related.

Speaker 20 I was late to the airport.

Speaker 28 I was doing stuff on Wednesday.

Speaker 14 And so I was like, fuck it. I'm just going to drive, which I don't know why they thought that would make it faster.

Speaker 75 Whatever. I was just...

Speaker 14 Going quickly.

Speaker 14 Part of my car, I have no idea where it is.

Speaker 57 Never took a picture. Oh, at the airport?

Speaker 19 I just realized as we were talking about all the airport stuff, that I have no idea where I'm parking.

Speaker 7 I always, I text myself. If you look at my history of text messages with myself, it's just a series of letters and numbers from various times I've parked.

Speaker 75 I'm fucked. I'm so fucked.

Speaker 75 I always take a picture and I just didn't take a picture.

Speaker 44 Did you park in the, I think I parked in a 24-hour lot and I'm going to have to pay like 500 bucks.

Speaker 44 I didn't do that. And I didn't have enough time.
And it was like I was pulling in.

Speaker 44 I was like, I didn't have enough time to like, I was like, I think it's the wrong one, but but I didn't have enough time to go find the right one.

Speaker 7 Right. You know what you do?

Speaker 44 You go back and you're like, I think I'm going to leave on Sunday.

Speaker 102 It's going to be egregious.

Speaker 7 If you go back to the airport, you just tell them that you think your car was stolen. And then, using their cameras, they'll be like, No, it wasn't stolen.
Here's exactly where it is. Yeah.

Speaker 7 They'll be able to tell you.

Speaker 75 Driving to the airport is stupid, but it also is the best because when you get off the plane, you're like, I don't have to try to find a taxi.

Speaker 7 Wait for a cab. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 51 And actually, what the Uber prices is actually pretty much the same price.

Speaker 68 But yeah, I'm not going to find my car.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 51 Maybe I'll just take an Uber home and just let them like

Speaker 7 they'll get it back to you.

Speaker 54 Mail me someday.

Speaker 75 I mean, my lease is up soon, so maybe I just never, never go back.

Speaker 7 It's not, yeah, just report it stole.

Speaker 40 Like, you guys can go get it. It's somewhere at LaGuardia.

Speaker 7 Yeah, there should be a triple-A service that does that. There's probably a chip in your car.

Speaker 10 You give them the key and just be like, go and just press the button somewhere in LaGuardia.

Speaker 7 Do you have OnStar or anything?

Speaker 47 No, none of that stuff.

Speaker 78 It's tough. It's all right.
It's fine.

Speaker 74 It's fine.

Speaker 12 All right.

Speaker 3 So we are are obviously on the road.

Speaker 24 Obviously, you got to watch F1 on

Speaker 49 Sunday.

Speaker 14 Route 4, Logan Sargent, route for Williams Racing.

Speaker 98 We are going to FaceTime Jack McCarthy, who is, no, Jack Maguire, Jack Maguire.

Speaker 39 Let me get Jack Mac

Speaker 20 from the studio. He's going to do the lottery ball for us.

Speaker 10 He's in the office.

Speaker 24 working Viva hours.

Speaker 7 Did you see that you're allowed to bet on the actual draft lottery this year? You can bet on the ping-pong balls. Hank, any hot tips?

Speaker 101 Bulls.

Speaker 22 I like that.

Speaker 7 That would be sick. I'm going Spurs.

Speaker 60 All right, I got to screen record this too so that we can put it in the YouTube.

Speaker 93 Jack.

Speaker 43 All right.

Speaker 98 Perfect.

Speaker 104 Hank, have you ever gotten this?

Speaker 87 No.

Speaker 68 All right. Numbers.

Speaker 8 17.

Speaker 16 You didn't say it.

Speaker 7 99.

Speaker 39 You paused.

Speaker 23 You paused.

Speaker 7 How can you know that this is coming every single show that we had ever recorded? I gave you the.

Speaker 50 No, you didn't.

Speaker 45 I gave you the time.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, no, it was. There was a time.
It was a much bigger gap than usual.

Speaker 3 Jackie, you get to guess two.

Speaker 3 Oh, God.

Speaker 75 What do you want?

Speaker 2 73. 73.

Speaker 93 Memes. One.

Speaker 43 One.

Speaker 14 Max.

Speaker 14 20.

Speaker 69 20. All right.

Speaker 8 What's your guess, Hank?

Speaker 14 Six?

Speaker 54 Hank, guess six.

Speaker 54 Okay.

Speaker 28 There we go. Keep it right on there.
Yep.

Speaker 104 Oh, it looks like maybe a single digit.

Speaker 6 Nope.

Speaker 18 It is

Speaker 3 62.

Speaker 3 62.

Speaker 7 Getting closer, Hank. All right.

Speaker 83 Thank you, Jack.

Speaker 30 We appreciate it.

Speaker 87 Yep. All right.

Speaker 7 See ya. You didn't want to win that one anyways.
No, you didn't want to win. On the road.

Speaker 56 Pastor. I didn't want to win that one.

Speaker 47 That would have been fun. That would have have been fun.

Speaker 71 But you wouldn't have because it's the lottery cool machine.

Speaker 56 So you'll never win it.

Speaker 29 What if I get 17 before you?

Speaker 44 What's the puku?

Speaker 79 Yeah, we've had this conversation before.

Speaker 66 Same as the Lakers, Sixers,

Speaker 74 finals.

Speaker 44 I don't know which I'd rather have. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, you're not going to get one of them. Yeah.

Speaker 10 One of them actually could happen.

Speaker 43 Okay.

Speaker 93 See everyone Monday.

Speaker 28 We've got an awesome interview with Michael Davies.

Speaker 2 He is executive producer of Jeopardy Masters.

Speaker 16 He also was the executive producer of Barstool Van Talk. So we had some awesome flashback.

Speaker 19 What was your perspective from the whole thing?

Speaker 9 And also, he's got a British accent, so he's cool.

Speaker 46 Old friend.

Speaker 7 Love you guys. Hey, good luck golfing.

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Animal fact: Hank has golfed more than any other animal on earth in the last month and a half.

Speaker 28 I'm the one to say I'll take it anyway.

Speaker 28 Today is another thing, but the body's the same.

Speaker 28 I won't say it's my feet, so a little way.

Speaker 28 Slowly learning life is okay.

Speaker 28 I'll move on

Speaker 28 through the ground today.

Speaker 28 Just a way that we're breathing away.

Speaker 28 And you're all the things I've come to remember.

Speaker 28 I'll make

Speaker 28 you

Speaker 28 all

Speaker 28 me.

Speaker 28 I'll make know

Speaker 28 dream of

Speaker 28 me