Chad Kelly In Studio, Day 1 At The Masters, Mac Jones vs Bill Belichick Plus Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Now in the street there is violence.

And I'm not allowed to lot of work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we is back. He is, alphabetically speaking, PFT, leading the Masters after one day yeah and he looks awesome brooks kipka is back to his old form silencing the haters of which there are many he's just he's healthy now that's the thing and i was telling max this earlier because we watched all of brooks's round uh the fact that he went out there and he proved that he can do it to himself and he is now leading a major championship after 18 holes, that is like the big psychological hurdle he's going to get over.
Now we need to make sure that Brooks shows up for the fourth day so he's not too used to playing 54 holes that he doesn't live towards golf but louder. But this seems seems good because he, he skull fucked the course.
He just piped everything nuclear down the middle. He was hitting every green.
He had like one bad shot today. The crazy thing is he shot seven under and it was like the worst seven under I've ever seen because it probably should have been 10 under.
He got one bad bounce that fucked him with a bogey. And then he missed like three birdie putts from about 10 feet out brooks kept his back we we should say uh in terms of seven unders brooks's was the best because he is alphabetically in first place john rom shot a seven under after double bogeying the first hole you can't start worse than he did and he then came back and tor everything.
That is the part of the mental side of golf that would drive me insane where I'm like, if I had just gotten a par on the first hole, I'd be, I'd be minus nine with, with, with, uh, solo hold of the leaderboard. Uh, but yeah, Brooks is back.
He feels good. He looks better.
He's trying to be the first time to the first time uh two-time live tour winner to win a masters yeah historic never been done before he's also he's only only the only person in live who's ever won two live golf events so he would be it would be truly historic on many accounts he would be dominating every league you have to start up brand new golf leagues funded by other crown princes in order for brooks so it's like what's that old saying like and the king wept because there were no more kingdoms to conquer like brooks has done it all at this point by the way we should just because i feel like it gets missed every now and then and people would be like do you guys even like brooks anymore we actually were gonna have brooks on last week for a master's preview but because we were out of the office for what felt like 10 days in the final four our schedules didn't align because he couldn't do it on the tuesday that we were trying to do it and then we were traveling basically for the rest of the week he is coming back on hopefully he's coming back on sunday night because that would be phenomenal but he is leading the masters after one day. We're not going to get ahead of ourselves.
There's a lot of golf to be played, but the other storyline coming out of day one of the masters, we as a society need to remind people that snitches get stitches because holy shit, we had two alleged cheating events, one with Brooks, whereas I didn't even know this was illegal, but apparently his caddy mouthed the word five to, who was it? He was playing with Woodland? Yeah. Woodland's caddy.
He said he was caddy. And everyone said, well, you can't tell the other caddy what he just shot.
They reviewed it. It was actually, he was saying it to a TV person.
Ridiculous, ridiculous though, that that even is a rule, but that was one where like people were, were screen grabbing, getting videos like cheater, cheater, cheater. And the other was Morikawa who moved his ball and people were doing selective editing, fake news editing, where they were taking out the part where his ball moved first and he was moving it to the back to exactly where it was.

And everyone was clamoring that he cheated and he should get disqualified.

We as a society need to just tell these people to shut the fuck up.

It was brutal for all the snitches online that think that they know the rules better than everyone else and wanting to get that little piece of glory of being the guy being like i found out that he cheated yeah well guess what the masters they they examined both cases because there was so much uproar because of social media they looked at brooks's they said they said no this is fine there will be no penalty instituted no collusion it's a witch hunt they're trying to get our boy brooks and And then with Murakawa, I think they looked into it on the broadcast. Even the guy on the broadcast team was like, well, we're going to have to take another look at that.
But that turned out to also be nothing. And so in a sick way, I kind of love how these golf freaks out there used to watch the U.S.
open and would feel like just guys on their couch. I think it's okay.
If it's a guy on your couch and you pick up a phone and you dial it in, that's way better. I love those freaks that are just so obsessed with the rule book that they think they spot something on their TV and they call a hotline for cheaters.
And then they explain what they saw. And then the person reviews it and they're like, no, I'm sorry.
nothing happened here. But to just put it out on social media, that's it's irresponsible.
That's your cloud chasing. We would never do anything like that.
Never, never. You're cloud chasing.
I, the guy who's sitting on his couch who calls it in, I, I, that guy tipping my cap because you know what? He's just watching golf as it's meant to be watched by yourself on the couch, burying some farts in your couch, a nap waking up calling the hotline the people who are clipping stuff and putting it online they're clout chasing and i don't like it i don't like it those are two of our guys colin morikawa would never cheat brooks kepka would never cheat if patrick reed does something tomorrow i will clip it i will put it out and i will call him a cheater but those guys never cheated that's how it should be played. You better not.
I remember when Patrick Reed does something tomorrow, I will clip it. I will put it out, and I will call him a cheater.
But those guys never cheated. That's how it should be played.
You better not. I remember when Patrick Reed, this was a few months ago, he hit his tee shot into a tree, and then he took a pair of binoculars, found a different ball in a better tree, and was like, yeah, that's my ball in that tree.
And then he got a much better drop. I respect how dedicated Patrick Reed is to the cheating game.
I would never snitch on Patrick Reed. It's like he's like Michelangelo painting a masterpiece.
I would, however, snitch on Bryson. If we get Bryson doing anything.
Remember him? If he picks up a ball because there's like an aphid on it and blows it off, I will be calling that in. Make no mistake about it.
But besides him, you're not allowed to snitch on because you know you know for a fact that bryson would snitch on somebody bryson's probably got twitter burner accounts at home that he uses when he's not playing in that fourth day on the live tour to call in and snitch on pga golfers yes bryson um ever since he said that masters was what he say it was like a par 65 course or something he's like you're gonna break the course he hasn't done anything in the masters other stories tiger completed around did okay was sweating sweating hard but he you know plus two you can't the guy is is clearly not 100 he he went out there and gutted out a plus two we're okay with that right like we just want, we just want him to make the cut. Yeah, I want Tiger around.
I want to see. I want, like, live look-ins at Tiger's round over the course of the weekend.
That would be ideal. He is definitely still hurt.
Like, his foot almost got amputated. And you can see it.
He had this one shot that he had to play. He was standing in a bunker, and his ball was above him, and he hit it.
And then afterwards, he just picked his picked his foot up and started hopping around you know like when your dog has like a leg injury and it won't put any weight on that foot but it still really wants its chew toy so it still keeps going he like walked up to the green like that trying to pretend nothing was wrong that was sad to see but i do i mean it's remarkable that he's able to play this well given the fact that one he's basically got one foot and two he was such a sweaty mess in that white shirt like the nipples protruding everywhere disgusting yeah he looked like he should be in a uh wet you know wet t-shirt contest in like daytona beach not at the masters kind of kind of gross for the masters like augusta is special we't be doing that. I don't want to see nipples in Augusta.

Anywhere near them.

I'm actually about to phone in a rule violation on Tiger Woods' nipples.

Yes.

The other big story that I'm taking away from this, shout out Max.

Our boy Max Homa.

Fought hard.

Fought so hard.

That was the grittiest performance of the day because Max did not have –

I don't know.

I'm an idiot when it comes to golf, so I'm just going to use things that I say in other sports, like for a starting pitcher. He didn't have his best stuff today.
He didn't have stuff. But he managed to put together a good round, fought back hard on the back nine, and fuck the walk and talk interview that they made him do.
ESPN fucked Max Homa on the 14 14th hole because you're not even allowed to have a cell phone at Augusta, but they, they make him, they, they have some poor production assistant that has to like keister a cell phone and smuggle it inside so they can hand it to Max or Rory in the middle of their putt. Max was walking him through the read on the putt before he hit it no wonder he misread

it because he's trying to do a fucking broadcast as he's playing in the masters this isn't as max

said uh our max max said earlier when we were watching this he goes this isn't the fucking

fortnight open here this is augusta you should not be doing a walk and talk okay so we have to

talk to max after this because i think and i want to put this correctly because we're trying to stay positive about everything he birdied the last hole that's the only thing we should remember but this is this is part of him being a slut he can't say no they're like hey max you want to get on the phone with us and talk us through every single one of your shots you think if they ask tiger that you think if they ask scotty that they're like fuck no max just he likes to talk to people he's he's probably the nicest guy on tour and i mean that in a loving way so we gotta get we gotta harden him he's gotta he's gotta get in he's gotta like hit a patron or something get a little edge to him you need with his fist not a ball with his fist yeah maybe if you call him the p word he might hit you he also he also uh cam smith being max homa's uh body double from behind fucked me up all day or cam young sorry cam young cam young every time he went for a putt i was like oh shit birdie putt and they're like fuck that's not max so they gotta they gotta figure out they gotta wear they're wearing too close to colors like i don't even know if they're wearing the same color shirt but their facial hair is the same their hat so we gotta figure that out they need jerseys with their names on the back that's what they that's what they need in golf but shout out to uh whichever cam that were cam young cam young uh he he's sponsored by major league baseball which rocks that's so cool grow the game i appreciate game. I appreciate what you're doing, Cam.
I personally, if I was a golfer, I would try so hard to get sponsored by the NFL. So it'd feel like I was a football player when I was out there playing golf.
That would rock. I do like seeing the MLB logo on his shirt.
Also big story of the day, Sam Bennett, the low amateur of the day. He's like amateur.
Amateur. Sorry.
You said it wrong the amateur it's amateur at augusta it's amateur everywhere else it's amateur at augusta he should be sponsored by pornhub that'd be sick the low amateur should be sponsored uh but he's he put together such a cool round it would be so awesome if if an amateur happened to win the masters i I it's probably never going to happen but if it did imagine the size of the go fund me that would that would occur shortly thereafter where like because he can't get he can't collect the prize money can't you just go pro right before the 18th hole i would before your last putt yeah just be like just kidding joke i'm pro now look just look into the crowd be like is anybody here an agent yeah okay all right i am a pro i'm taking i think you i think they might like be like hey you want this money no i'm gonna keep my amateur status fuck that fuck that uh pro we'll do a pizza party for for bennett if he wins i i agree uh victor hovland's shirt was awesome yeah especially because he came out and shot a seven under. I'm trying to think.
Will Zalator's withdrawing we talked about at the beginning, but that sucked a lot. We love Willie Z.
Hope you get better, Willie Z. Can't have you hurt.
Yeah. The golf course was the big loser today.
Yeah, well, it's coming back, though. It's going to show up.
It shows its teeth on the weekends when you have the traditional Sunday pin placements. That gets me going at the start of the day.
They did drop earlier today when they dropped the pin location map. That was a big moment for me, just looking at how far those pins were from the edges of the green.
I was thinking we should do our own map where we Photoshop fake pin placements and just really fuck with the with golf purists maybe on sunday put one of them in atlanta yeah or like one in a sand trap yeah we should get shane on that absolutely from the part of my take twitter account just tweet it out yeah okay we're gonna do that put like a windmill on the azalea hole yeah just a little cuddle a couple subtle things there did you know by the way um shout out nick costas who does a great show uh did you know that the masters has this theme song has lyrics no i didn't want i didn't want to know that i didn't know that either it has lyrics are you getting is this a is this a fool are you you getting fooled? No, it is dead serious. I mean,

I'm looking at it right now from golf digest last year,

the masters has lyrics. Well, it's springtime in the Valley on Magnolia lane.

It's the Augusta national and the master of the game. It goes on and on.

Isn't this crazy? It's a bar Augusta. It's,

it's you that I love and it's you that I miss when I'm gone.

It's the legions of Arnie's army and the golden bears throngs and the

I don't know it kind of ruined it for me though being like they should just drop in the lyrics once just to fuck with us It would get everyone out of their nap. Remix it with Ja Rule.
Yeah. Jake, we've got you.
What were your thoughts on, I didn't like how you framed Max's round. You're like tough bogey on 17.
No, no, no. Great birdie on 18.
You're muted. He's frozen.
Jake looks like somebody just broke into his room and was about to kill him. Are you okay, Jake? Nope.
All right, that was Jake Marsh live from Florida. Here's what Jake was going to say.
He was going to say, I thought Max played great today. He played a great round, and I'm very proud of him.
I thought all the golfers did good. It's okay.
Listen. I'm rooting for the sport.
Our guy guys got to go on vacation pft ain't got to

work what are we gonna do it's you know somebody's got to keep the lights on that's fine i'm happy basically big cat and i work so very hard so that everybody else on the show can take the vacations of their dreams yes exactly hank's out in san diego looking at whales and shit so So, yeah, we're here grinding.

But, yeah, in terms of first rounds at Augusta, at whales and shit. So yeah, we're, we're, we're here grinding, but yeah, the, in terms of first rounds at Augusta at the masters, I'm giving this one like a 4.8 out of five balls because you have big time guys at the top of the list.
You have a bunch of like really good guys right below lurking. You had two, uh, you know, rules controversies where you had tiger sweating through his shirt, doing a peep show.
You had it all. It was great.
And let me just say this. I know that, uh, everything is like supposed to be hunky dory.
They all went to the green jacket dinner. No one filled in talk is what the reports are.
It's very clear though that they're not showing like brooks was in the lead and they weren't showing him so they better start showing our guys it'd be great though if there was a serious showdown like west side story on the 18th green if brooks wins he got the live guys coming up snapping their fingers behind him threatening to like stab rory that'd be i would love to see that yeah okay jake let's get let's get your master's recap yeah no when we talked about max earlier we forgot to talk about that huge eagle on 16 yep yeah fact to go from one over to one under i like to walk and talk the fact that he had to keep the air pod in the whole time was crazy though i would have thought have thought he would have taken it out. Yeah, it's bullshit.
It is bullshit. They massacred our boy.
Look what they've done to our boy. He needs to start hitting people.
Maybe not that far, but no, no, no. I think he needs to start hitting maybe a cameraman.
I don't know. Just start hitting people out of anger.
Be a guy that no one wants to go up and ask to do something, because I think that's the problem is Max is the guy everyone wants to hear from he's very fun everyone wants to hear him talk they go up and ask him and he can't say no he needs to like slap someone in the face at some point he needs to find his little mini Ellen DeGeneres streak where he just starts being mean to people Diva Homa is what they're calling him nowadays or just start pretending like he can only speak italian i can't know due to the interview because i know speaking the english i'm so sorry and as for brooks you guys said hopefully you can make it 72 because you used to 54 what about the mentality of it starts tomorrow and you're just playing 54 yeah yeah true and we might have weather we might have weather might go all the way to monday yeah i don't i think i'm not okay with that if if there's one round on monday i i'm okay with it but i also understand that we're talking from a place of privilege here right because we don't have real jobs where if you had a real job i mean it would be a great opportunity to steal some more time back from your employer. But a lot of people wouldn't be able to watch that.

Although I'm,

I'm sure that American businesses,

we could just decide,

like give your employees a break,

let them close down day after Easter.

Come on,

be nice.

Okay.

Should we kick it to ourselves?

We're back in studio.

We got an awesome interview coming up with swag.

Kelly,

we talk a little NBA NFL and thenre Fest. So let's do it.
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First time in what feels like forever. Billy.
What's up, guys? Great to see you. Yeah, to see billy billy is activated full-on kyle trask mode with the goatee that he's got working right now looks good billy wait did you shave your mustache i just took i i got a little carried away this morning i started trim and then well they talked to me we do that hit on pittsburgh radio every thursday morning and they started talking to me about mustaches and i was like, yeah, my problem with my mustache, which I can grow one, but it just gets blonde at the outside and it gets dark right in the middle of the mustache and I don't know if you guys are history buffs or not, but there's a guy that's famous for having a mustache kind of like that.
Ron Jeremy? Okay. Charlie Chaplin.
Charlie Chaplin. Yeah, Charlie Chaplin.
So I started to trim it today and and it just got out of hand, so we're clean shaven. Billy, I like what you're trying to do, though.
It's like Billy's first mustache. I heard slimming of the face.
Oh, okay. You got problems with are you getting a little chunky? Yeah, I'm getting a little chunky.
It does distract from the hives. You know what you look like? That's what we're going for.
You look like right now my favorite time when hockey playoffs start and there's that one guy on every team that's trying to grow a playoff beard and they can't. Yeah, Sidney Crosby was like that for a long time.
And it's a brutal, brutal thing. If I were one of those guys, I would start growing my playoff beard in like February.
A pre-beard? Yeah. Just like, oh, this thing? Oh, okay.
I guess I might as well keep with it. Sidney Crosby's facial hair was so bad for so long it was classified as an upper body injury.
It was just disgusting facial hair. I was convinced that the reason that the Caps never won the Stanley Cup until they did was because I just couldn't grow a playoff beard.
It was like such shit. It was all on you.
Alright, so we're back in studio. Should we talk a little sports? We have a couple things that we can touch on.
First, the NBA playoffs are starting to form. It's starting to look a little bit clearer and it's starting to feel like we're going to get what we all want.
Sixers, Celtics, potentially round two. So the Bucs have gotten the one seed.
They have clinched one seed uh in the east and the rest of the play-in game that all looks like it's gonna be figured out pretty pretty clearly here the bulls are kind of stuck at 10 uh celtics 2 sixers 3 calves 4 how we feeling max also congratulations on joel and bead winning the mvp uh i don't care about the mvp but he that the game he had uh mvp voters are like goldfish it's just the last thing they saw so he had the 52 point game against the celtics on tuesday night when we were in a travel day he already felt like he was inching towards it but i feel like that performance uh in a game against the Celtics was like, all right, officially, Embiid's the MVP. Yeah, he was an absolute animal.
We were traveling, so I was only able to watch the last couple minutes of the game. Almost an absolute disaster to the end of that game.
But, I mean, it's nice to see a stat line like that. That's like, it's crunch time, Embiid's getting ready to gear up for the playoffs, and if he can put up 52 performances shooting 20 of 25 from the field, then I think we could be title contenders.
He is so good. Did you see that? It was a great anecdote that he learned how to play basketball by just searching white guys shooting threes.
When he moved to America, when he was like 15, 16 years old, and he's like, I just know that there's always, when you go to a gym, there's always like a 30-year-old white guy wearing Everlast shorts who's just wet from three. It's true.
It's true. We are very, very good at just having good shooting form well into our 40s.
In fact, I don't even want Mark Titus to make me wet shooting threes anymore. I just want to have the perfect form of a jump shot, just like a silky smooth.
And I feel like that's something that you have. Once you become a dad, I think you get better form when it comes to your three-point shot.
Tuck in that elbow. Titus actually, there's a chance that Titus was one of the videos that Joel Embiid watched because he dropped his famous video when he was at Ohio State in 2010.
The timeline matches up. Joel Embiid MVP because Mark Titus is good at basketball is the headline we're going with.
I'm searching right now white guys shooting threes on YouTube. White guys shoot the best threes.
Is it true? All deaf comedy. Yeah, if you watch this video, I'd say that that's pretty good.
Yeah. There's also the – my favorite is the kind of fat guy who's really good at shooting from three.
And it's like he's a little bit bigger. He probably should be playing closer to the basket, but he was such a good shooter growing up.
And you get on the court and you're like, this guy is not going to do anything. And then hits every three you're like fuck he's that guy yeah it's oh it's always some dude that's rocking like uh 1980s headband usually like low top shoes like adidas sambas and he's got a sick handle and you're like god damn it how did this guy yeah he just he basically was a sick basketball player in high school and then gained like 40 pounds yeah yeah big t in our our office.
He's sick from three? Wet from three. There you go.
You wouldn't expect that. Get down low, big man.
You guys put up like 93 points in your pickup game yesterday? Yeah. We were going to go 100, but we were just killing the offensive rebounds.
Oh, wow. How many points did you have? I had like 20.
Damn. Sick.
Look at you. Wait, so you're telling me that you guys had the biggest blowout performance of your team's entire season when Hank was on vacation, not at the game? Look, someone say.
Addition by subtraction. The Ewing theory, but for Hank.
So Embiid's going to win the MVP. The Sixers are going to get the three seed.
In the West, LeBron finally made a loser graphic. Yeah.
Congratulations, LeBron James. Our long national nightmare is over.
The Lakers tweeted out a group picture of the Lakers. And LeBron was like in the background after a loss.
Yes. And the Clippers beat the Lakers late into the night, which actually is significant because it feels like the Lakers might now have to be in the play-in.
Yeah. Which, great for ratings.
It is good for ratings. It's actually the perfect thing for Adam Silver to be like, look, everyone loves the play-in game.
It's like, no, we actually were just watching because we want to see if LeBron will make the playoffs. We just want to see LeBron lose, let's be honest with you.
They're probably going to go up against my Timberwolves, and I like that matchup. Yeah.
Well, the Timberwolves are in the ninth spot right now as of the talking. So they wouldn't go up.

The loser of the Lakers Pelicans game would go up against the Timberwolves.

But things can still move around.

Yes, things can still move around, although there's only two games left.

So next Tuesday is the official start of the playoffs.

We're calling them the playoffs, right?

Play-ins.

The play-ins?

The play-ins.

Okay.

Because I was trying to figure out if I wanted to make a t-shirt, if the Poles can somehow play their way into getting swept by the Bucs. Tough when Giannis is sitting and you still lose.
Well, the interesting situation you found yourself in is saying that they're not the playoffs if LeBron is in them. Yeah.
And he loses. I'm okay saying they're not the playoffs.
I actually, I'm going to say it. That's not the playoffs.
Because that's what owners want to tell their fan base when they make the 10th seed or the 9th seed. They're like, well, playoff appearance, that doesn't count.
You have to play a seven-game series to be in the playoffs. Yeah.
If the T-Wolves do happen to make it out of the play-in, we should, however, make back-to-back play-in tournament champions. Although, Pat Pev is going for his crown with the Bulls.
Play-in. Play-in champion.
Play-in P. The play-in man.
The only other thing I had for NBA is I just love that Jalen Brunson's injury, he's been in and out of Knicks games. Every time he plays, he feels like he's incredible but it's right hand maintenance right hand maintenance is what they call it when he sits out that's awesome i don't know what like is he going to get his nails done i don't know what is he getting a massage right hand maintenance right hand maintenance makes zero sense whatsoever yeah it does sound like a masturbation injury well i was going to say that but uh it's what bill what ben simmons has been doing his entire career yes yes where he should be just going it should be left hand well no he's he should be doing left hand yeah he should be doing left hand and just tying it behind his back and playing yes um okay other things mac jones bill belichick relationship feels bad yeah so belichick has been shopping Mac Jones, allegedly, behind the scenes.
Now, Hank's not here right now. He has released a statement, if you'd like me to read it.
Can I guess what his statement is? Yes, go ahead. This is fan fiction from Mike Flory of Pro Football Talks.
So that's part of it. So here's Hank's statement.
Pre-Firefest Hank, as we were leaving Houston, he's like,

I'm going to play some more golf while we go work.

He said, if you guys need me at all, just let me know and I'll hop on a Zoom.

So I told him, hey, we need you because we want you to hop on the Zoom,

talk about the Celtics getting the two seed and Mac Jones.

And he said, oh, I can't.

Well, that's not fair, Big Cat, because you only gave him like eight hours notice.

That's true. That is true.
So here's a statement from one Henry Lockwood's desk. I'm going to read it as given.
Mac Jones is my quarterback and this is a media driven narrative to try and create division within the most successful NFL franchise of the past 25 years. Everyone who watched a Patriots game last year knows the offense sucked and the play calling sucked so I have no issue with Mack calling that out behind the scenes.
And I think Belichick was mad at the principle of how Mack Jones went about communicating his issues and probably didn't have an issue with the complaints themselves. He spelled it themselves.
Considering they got rid of the OC and brought in someone who coached Mack in college. This will be a great coaching lesson for the young QB and ultimately bring him and Belichick closer together in the long run.
They also aren't going to trade him. The only person who reported that was Mike Florio, who is one of the greatest fiction of the 21st century.
I think he meant writer. Mike Florio himself is fiction.
Actually, no, that probably is what Hank wanted to say. Not real.
Mike Florio does not exist. Mike Florio is one of the greatest fiction of the 21st century and shouldn't be treated as a credible source when it comes to anything regarding the New England Patriots.
Okay. So, yeah, pretty much.
I could have told you that's what, yeah. It's classic Hank, but I think that there's definitely, where there's smoke, there's fire.
Maybe here's what's happening. Maybe since Josh McDaniels is just dead set on reinventing the New England Patriots out in the desert and just collecting all the old New England pieces and being like, you know what was good? The New England Patriots were really good the last 25 years.
Yeah. Let's just reinvent them except without Tom Brady.

Yeah.

Which is like if you went to go see The Whale and you're like,

I love The Whale.

I can't wait for the sequel.

We got everybody except for Brendan Fraser in it.

Right, right.

So Tom Brady was probably a pretty big part of the Super Bowl.

I would say so.

So Belichick might be just being like, hey, maybe Josh will overpay for Mac Jones.

I agree with Hank on part of his take that it's fan fiction because they listed the teams that were included and the commanders were on that list. And let me just say, this is going to be Carson Wentz all over again if I have to watch Mac Jones.
Yes, yes. It's the rare case where I actually do believe, even though Mike Fleury does not exist, he is fiction.
He's like Dove Kleinman. I do believe the reporting because it all just makes sense Mac Jones how many times did we say it last year he got absolutely screwed it was his second year a very big developmental year and you have Matt Patricia and Joe Judge calling your plays Mac Jones basically did the thing where he was like oh my dad can't give me great advice I'm going to go to my uncle or someone outside of the building who can tell me, you know, am I thinking about this correctly? Apparently, that's a very disloyal move to Bill Belichick, which I get.
But also, Bill Belichick caused this problem by hiring Matt Patricia and Joe Judge. So I really do think Matt Jones has kind of been fucked with to a level that's really not fair to him.
Like, I don't know if he's going to end up being a good quarterback.

I just know that what happened in year two did not help his progression.

No, it was quite the opposite.

He stunk, and part of it was on him because he did make some bad throws,

but the offense was just – it was very, very, very bad.

If I know Bill Belichick, he won't tolerate a quarterback

who has an outside person helping him with things related to football

inside the building.

That just will never fly in New England.

No, definitely not we got billy i do think mac jones would be amazing in a shanahan offense oh that's everyone though yeah that's literally every quarterback but i agree i think he was the best game manager of his draft class and like better than brock purdy could be a game manager what quarterback wouldn't be good in Kyle Shanahan? So I've given this some thought before. The only one I can think of is the one that said that Kyle called him last year.
Big Ben. Big Ben.
Yeah. Big Ben would be awful.
I think Carson Wentz probably would still be bad. Yes, he would.
He would definitely be bad everywhere. He would just do weird rollouts and shit that were not part of the offense.
But I really do think there's not many quarterbacks that wouldn't flourish in Kyle Shanahan's offense.

Maybe, yeah.

I was going to say, like, Dak Prescott probably flourished there.

Yeah.

Jameis Winston would be awesome, I think, in Kyle Shanahan's offense.

Zach Wilson.

Zach Wilson probably would not.

Yeah.

Maybe Trey Lance.

Yeah.

Maybe Trey Lance might not work out.

What about Mahomes in Kyle Shanahan's offense?

I think it would just be like the same thing with the McCaffrey trade where it's like, yeah, you don't need Mahomes for Kyle Shanahan's offense, but if you got it, it would just be supercharged to another level. I don't think there's enough checkdowns in it for Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah, that's true. The checkdown king.
Yeah, I don't actually think Mahomes would do that well in it. I think he would crush it.
I love this take, Billy Goff. No, I think it's too structured for Mahomes' play style.
Yeah. Yeah.
But again, he is Patrick Mahomes. So it would be like, hey, let's run the structure plays and then do the Patrick Mahomes plays, and we're awesome.
Also, the offense that he runs in Kansas City, they do call plays for him in their structure. No, they never have.
Never have. Patrick Mahomes, they just roll the ball out there.
But they let him cook more often than not. They do let him cook.
That is a fact. I actually think Debo Samuel would work as a quarterback in Kyle Shanahan's office.
Yes, absolutely. Christian McCaffrey would work as a quarterback.
Kyle Yushik would work. In fact, anybody on that roster except for Josh Johnson would work.
Yeah, I think any of us in this room could probably put up 100 yards wouldn't be great passing wouldn't be the most efficient passing I could have just throw to throw the guy that's open I could have at least 45 yards passing yeah no no joke they're they're just and we're saying this it's not joking because 40 of the 45 yards would just be throwing a Debo Samuel that's two yards away from you yeah it would it would be like one of those belly pops. Yeah, right.
Billy, do we have any update on Aaron Rodgers? That was going to be my fire fest. It's been 22 days and I'm kind of getting worried.
It's like it's one of those things where it's like, is it really going to happen? Now there's rumors of other teams talking to Aaron Rodgers. Imagine Aaron Rodgers and Kyle Shanahan's offense.

It's like when you ask a girl to a dance and then she says yes,

but then there's been no follow-up for three weeks and the dance is coming pretty soon.

It's like, hey, wait a second.

What time am I picking you up?

Other people have been asking you to the dance,

and it's kind of like, whoa.

Is this happening?

Yeah, I don't know.

Getting no text back. I do think Aaron fucked over the panthers or sorry the packers big time by announcing his intention to go to new york because now the the jets can they can really take that into account when factoring what they're going to trade for him they can be like yeah you know what we realize that aaron has you over a barrel right now so we're just going to say we'll give you a second-round pick for him and then make the Packers say no to it.
I hear that it has to do with stuff after the draft. They want the draft to happen.
Yeah, it feels like Lamar and Rodgers are going to be after the draft. People want to see where they're going to be in the offseason, and that's when the real negotiations are going to start.
Well, and also you don't want to give up a first- or round pick this close to the draft when you've circled a bunch of guys and you're like, hey, we have a good draft board. Mike Florio fiction.
He's writing some fiction. If he even exists.
He's been weighing in on this as well. Actually, you know what? The big news is Mike Greenberg.
He went on the Pat McAfee show and he said that if Aaron Rodgers does not get traded to the Jets,

Mike Greenberg will say the F word on the air,

and he's never sworn on the air in his career.

Poor Jake.

At that point, I'm out on Greeny.

I'm out on Greeny.

I can't watch him after that.

He's too perfect right now.

He also said if they go to the Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers,

just go to it, he would swear.

Greeny just wants to cuss, I think. I don don't like that greeny's turned into a bad boy it would be funny if we just had jake swear non-stop after it'd be like well all my heroes are doing it yep so this is just how it is uh all right anything else anything else in the sports world cam newton yeah gave his list of guys he would he would want to be an understudy for and it's funny because most of them were uh alumni of his camps oh yeah so what was the list uh well he said he could start there wasn't 32 guys better than him in the nfl and then he gave a list he's just reading matthew berry's tweet malik willis uh even sam sam howl guy sam howl yeah it's kind of a weird list deshaun watson also was was the number one guy he'd want to be backup for.
Okay. Says he admires him.
Wasn't there a player at Cam Newton's camp that cussed him out or talked shit to him a couple years ago? Yeah. Was that guy on the list? I don't think so.
It does sound like he's promoting his camp or trying to get to a place where he's going to be able to play. I feel like if you were like, hey, here's who I want to back up, I would just pick the guys that are never going to lose their starter job because being a backup quarterback would rule.
I would like to back up Joe Burrow, Patrick Holmes, and Josh Allen. Imagine Cam Newton and Kyle Shanahan's offense.
That would work, I think. Of course it would.
Everyone would. It would definitely work.
Everyone would work. I saw RG3 referred to it as a manifesto that he gave a list.
When you're dropping a manifesto, it's never good. No.
It's usually a shooting involved. You've been caught blowing something up besides two franchises.
That's not good. You know who wouldn't work in Kyle Shannon's office? Russell Wilson.
Agreed. Because he can't throw over the middle.
He's too short. Agreed.
I think actually that would be the answer be the answer mm-hmm okay so Cam Newton trying to get back in somewhere I mean I think he was trying to give off the idea that he wouldn't be a threat to the starter with this like statement trying to be humble but it was like the most least humble statement of all Cam Newton should just honestly the the remember that lame joke when Tom Brady was suspended for four games? Everyone's like, Dom Grady showed us up.

Yeah.

Some mustache on him.

Imagine if Cam Newton just went in the combine again and said he was 22 years old.

He would get – everyone would be blown away.

Nam Kooten.

Yeah.

There it is.

Let's do it.

I would draft him.

Everyone would.

I would.

Did you see that one throw that he had?

He put up one of those off-platform cross-body throws in his workout. Do it.
Get back in the draft. Tiger's struggling.
Plus three. Tiger.
Not good. I watched a lot of Tiger Woods highlights last night, just old rounds of his.
I watched the entire recap of him versus Rocco Mediate. We should get Rocco on the podcast at some point because everybody was rooting so hard for him, and he almost stared down Tiger Woods on, like, it was 36 holes where he went shot for shot with him.
And the announcers at the time, they were like, this guy looks like he should be cleaning Tiger Woods' pool. They were just so mean to him the entire time.
And Rocco was like, yeah, I was trying to beat that fucking guy. He sounds like a good dude.
He would have been a legend for that. Okay, should we get to our interview? Speaking of guys trying to get back in the league, I'll say it right now.
Our Chad Kelly interview was phenomenal. I had so much fun talking to him.
It was so much like one of those interviews that we didn't know how it was going to go. I'm a Chad Kelly fan for life, and I will back that guy up no matter what.

He gave a manifesto too.

Yeah.

He did, yeah.

He did.

He can do it.

He loves ball. And I think we talked about it after, but we're going to try to do something this season

where Chad, maybe a little YouTube clip every single week where he comes on just for YouTube

where he breaks down

his best throw of the week.

Mm-hmm.

What should we call it?

Hmm.

Virgin versus Chad.

Hmm.

Shooting it with Chad.

Shooting it with Chad.

Hanging Chad.

Yeah.

Swagaholics.

Oh, I like that one.

Yeah.

And we just get all the...

We, like, wear swag.

Mm-hmm.

Just wear sick clothes when we do it. Yeah.
Swagaholics. Gunslinging.
Gunslinging with Chad Kelly. Don't take our guns away with Chad Kelly.
Breaking in to the mind of a quarterback. What about good guy with a gun with Chad Kelly? Yeah.
Oh, I like that one. We got some stuff to work with.
We like Chad though. Chad, he's a good guy and he's, he's definitely, uh, mentally he's, he's there.
He's like, he's committed to study and film and you can tell he still gets it. Yes, absolutely.
All right. So let's kick it to, uh, our interview with Chad Kelly in studio before we get to swag.
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Make sure you're protecting your loved ones and your home with Simpli here he is swag kelly okay we now welcome on a very special guest it is the man the myth the legend it is chad swag kelly in the office in studio are we still doing swag let's start there or is this a new it because this is the of comeback season. We want to see you in the NFL.
Are we thinking about maybe ditching swag and just going Chad Kelly? Yes, because I don't own the rights anymore. What? You lost the rights to your nickname? Who took Swag Kelly from you? The international marketing guy like five, six years ago said that, you know, we're going to trademark this.
And I was like, no, you're not. I'm going to do it.
And so I did it. And I was like, I kind of want to get away from it, whatever.
And then, you know, it expired. Oh, you let it lapse.
Yeah. And now he is the owner of it.
Damn. What is he going to do with it? I mean, you can't own Swag Kelly if you're not Swag Kelly.
It's like stock. He's holding on to it until you get back to the NFL.
Then you buy it back from him because it's worth a lot more money i did the same thing with rg3 he had no pressure no diamonds trademark and he let that lapse and so then i i bought that trademark out from under him it's an easy way to make money yeah it's like a patent troll thing exactly but i think i think that swag should come back in the future but i'm guessing now you're good enough to be a star of the nfl we've said that on the show it's love probably thousands of times but my guess is you'll probably have to work your way back being a backup chad kelly is a backup you can't have a backup named swag because that's that's like too threatening to the starting quarterback right agreed right agree right everyone sees swag and they're like uh-oh this guy's coming for my job so yeah and that. And that's a real thing, though.
I've spoken to, obviously, an offensive coordinator who was in the CFL. He was my offensive coordinator and quarterback coach in Indy.
He was like, look, a lot of teams don't want a threatening backup. That's going to take the starter's job.
They want the starter to feel comfortable, which I get it. But you've got to still be able to push the starter.
Otherwise, how are you getting better, right so i mean there's a there's a i guess you know a median yeah yeah it's somewhere in the middle so so all right so let's so you win the gray cup uh was phenomenal we had john after that uh and now going into this next season is it fully nfl or bust or are we thinking you know because unfinished to defend your title, right? Yeah, exactly. How is this going to all play out? Because we do want to see you back in the NFL, but back-to-back Grey Cup's pretty cool too.
Yeah, no doubt. You know, you've got to just win right now, right? And if I go out and do what I was meant to do is to play football at a high level, right, and score touchdowns and win games, right? So if we go back, back-to-back championships, you know, they can't really hold you back from the NFL.
But that doesn't necessarily mean that I don't want to be back in the CFL as well, right? I mean, it's a great game. Obviously, the defense is yard off the ball, so it's a little easier.
You know, there's guys running full speed, 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. You're like, all right, this DB sitting at seven yards, no way he can outrun my wide receiver, you know? Right.
Yeah. I mean, I think that you're good enough to play in the NFL right now.
I think that you've kind of been humbled for the last couple years. You've had like an up and down stretch.
You were drafted. You got to the Broncos.
I think everybody at the time, especially Billy, a resident draft scout, he said that you were the most talented quarterback in that draft. He did.
No doubt. From a physical standpoint.
So I think you've still got the skills. Maybe we need to work on a rebrand just to make it so that a GM would be like, this guy could be a backup quarterback on my team, get you dressed in Brooks Brothers suits looking like Eli Manning or something like that.
Yeah. That's real, though.
And that's kind of what they are wanting to see, right?

And, you know, going back to before the draft, you know, five, six years later,

whatever it's been, I remember going to Seattle on a top 30 visit with Mahomes.

And Mahomes was right there.

And it's the first time I ever met him.

And he goes, hey, Chad, that one pass you threw against Georgia, how the hell did you do that? I was like, what you mean? He was like, yo, that was the greatest play I've ever seen. Greatest play he's ever seen.
And he was like, yo, that was incredible. And he was like, I wish I could do that.
I was like, yo, I appreciate you, man. That was awesome.
See, this is how we get the resume going. We also need to mention.
All right, well, here we go. I'll give you another one.
Yeah, yeah. A week, the week that I played, I played one snap in the NFL, a kneel down, right, against the Los Angeles Rams.
Case Keenum had got knocked out, whatever. I don't know.
He laid on the ground a little long, and then they brought him out. And then I went in, and Aaron Donald goes, Hey, Chad, you should be starting, not the other guy.
He's like, You're good. You should play.
And that's the only way you guys are going to win is if you play. Yeah.
And I walked out. I was like, yo, is that really Aaron Donald? Yeah.
And it was. Chad Kelly is your favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback.
Yeah. How about that? The people that know the game, like us and Aaron Donald, I would consider us to be on the same level in terms of football experts.
We know ball when we see it. Oh, I'm watching this Georgia pass.
Is it the one where you almost get sacked and you throw it like 50 yards down the middle of the field? Yeah. That was sick.
Patrick Mahomes probably watches that. It's like someday I want to grow up and be like Chad Kelly.
I couldn't believe it. That is very cool.
Like if anything, let's just say it doesn't work out. Like just being like, yeah, Patrick Mahomesomes who could be eventually the greatest quarterback of all time was like yeah that was a sick pass and I wish I could do that and now look what he's doing yeah you know he's doing that every week yeah which is pretty cool so all right so part of the the comeback season because we're all in we're gonna we're gonna push the Chad Kelly narrative we got to obviously address the things that went wrong um how much did it suck to get arrested in the halloween costume because that part it's the halloween costume that like did you look down after and you're like oh fuck if i was just wearing a t-shirt this would be better what were you dressed as woody honestly i don't even know what i was dressed as i had i had a girlfriend at the time and we literally were scrambling to go out you know to find someone went to like four different places i'm like and fuck it just you know put on whatever and here we go and then a boy comes over he's you know having fun he's like all right come on let's let's let's have fun tonight i was like bro i'm so tired and i'm exhausted because i just flew from you know i remembered the whole week and i think you know a big part of it is mental right because that's not who i am right

i'm not walking in nobody's house like come on right let's be honest right and so you know i was so exhausted at that point and moment that i wasn't thinking clearly doing anything clearly smart and it was like i was traveling from from denver to arizona on a thursday came back from the game right and that here's another story i'll tell you another story you want to hear wild story yeah rest in peace to marius thomas i remember on and this is the same week it's all the same week on thursday we played in arizona we were up by like 30 or 45 pat pete got an interception right after halftime whatever and then we were up by 30 45 points and i remember sitting on the bench coach i was i was right there the quarterback coach was right there and case right next to me. And Coach goes, hey, I'm going to put Chad in the game right there to finish it out, right? We're blowing him out.
He's like, fuck no, so the crowd can chant his name. And I was like, damn, all right.
That's crazy. Yeah.
And so then I go over, stand by the sideline where DT and Emmanuel are, and they were like, hey, you're going in, right? I was like what you mean i was gonna go in for you so then you know the level of pay level of pay at the end of the year would be higher because if you're on the field with people that make more money you get more money yeah and i was like damn what a good dude that is first of all yeah and then the second you know damn all right i just wanted to play right right and then get that shot so then you fly back Denver. So then I fly back to Denver.
Put on your Woody costume. Well, I had a girl waiting there that I hadn't seen in six years, my ex-girlfriend.
Okay. I hadn't seen her in six years, so I'm staying up until, like, 6 a.m.
Like, what am I doing? Yeah. And I'm trying to be a big dog.
I got money now. You know, hey, let's get on a first-class ticket to Charlotte to go watch my brother play football.
And so we flow from all the way there. Then the the next day we come back then that day it was on a sunday that vaughn was like hey come over to my house uh we'll watch some of the football games and then we're gonna go to golden state versus denver and so we're sitting on the floor and you know drinks are going i'm like damn we got practice tomorrow in the morning and so you know it turns out we after the game then we go out to eat it's a late night with her whatever and then the next day you know we got practice early and so practice is from eight to whatever i don't know four and then i get out of practice i'm like yo i'm exhausted exhausted i'm telling her i need to go to sleep like i don't even know if i can do anything she's like i didn't come all this way you know just to sit here i'm like damn so now i had to you know reevaluate some things and i'm like hey i'm a big dog i can make it next thing you know you know you're not thinking clearly you're you're getting reactive rather than thinking and shit like that happens so now you learn and you cut those distractions out and you know it's about development mental things and you know i develop things that i know i can and can't do yeah yeah and the halloween costume really was what the story was yeah if.
It was a regular. Yeah.
Right. Exactly.
It was Toy Story. Yeah.
Yeah. I think you were Woody.
Yeah. That's actually a pretty wholesome thing.
Yeah. Right.
To explain it because that is that is very, you know, that's what the Internet does. We see a headline.
We go after it. Oh, my God.
Chad Kelly Halloween costume. But when you explain it, obviously not justifying going to someone else's house.

It was a mistake. But the lead up of all the traveling and the tired and everything, people fuck up.

It happens.

And honestly, who amongst us hasn't accidentally gone in the wrong door?

One night, late at night somewhere.

As podcasters, we have to stand with that because our brethren have sometimes made mistakes

like that.

That's right.

Yeah.

So solidarity.

What are you going to say, Billy?

Billy, by the way, is so excited for this interview. He was like geeking out when Chad came in.
I love it. Yeah.
I blame residential development. Okay, nice.
The houses are too uniform. McMansions, yeah.
They need to make the houses look different because it's unfair. Right.
Yeah. Well, if they didn't have a ring camera, we wouldn't have got caught either.
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
It's modern technology. Jeff Bezos.
It's his fault. Come on, Jeff.
John Elway probably ran into a punch beat. I got a story about Jeff Bezos.
Yeah, go on. So the chef that was cooking for me in Indianapolis, I won't say his name.
Anyways, he was supposed to be Jeff Bezos' chef. And he was like, okay, what does he want me to do? And he's like, all right, you have to make 11 meals at each setting.
So breakfast, lunch, and dinner so he can pick from a menu. And then he goes, what is he going to do with the rest? Oh, we're just going to throw it out.
He said, hell no. I'm not cooking for him.
I like that. I like the chef.
I stand with the chef. I stand with the chef.
But that is kind of a baller move. I mean, it's just to walk down a line and be like, all right, I don't want this.
It's kind of like super villain move. Yeah.
That's something that you would see in a cartoon as a kid of the guy that's trying to blow up the world. He just makes people make meals, and there's poor people outside of his house begging, can I at least take a piss break or something, Mr.
Bezos? And he's just throwing out a dump truck worth of produce. Tossing the lobster tail.
Yeah, gross. No, thank you.
I didn't want lobster for lunch. Chad, I was wondering, can we go back? Because when we had you on the show earlier, we were talking about the Grey Cup.
We were talking about your career. I want to talk about coming up as Chad Kelly when you were being so highly recruited out of high school.
When did you know that you were different? When I threw the ball 71 yards as a 14-year-old. Jesus.
Yeah. Yeah.
And, you know, I think growing up it was obviously very cool, right? But my dad is all brothers, right? And so they all just used to beat up on each other. And, you know, they'd tell, hey, if, you know, you got the athletic ability, you got the work ethic, oh, you're going to get to the NFL.
It doesn't matter about off-the-field right? And so just growing up, I was like, all right, I'm going to have a hard-ass mentality, you know, and I went to an all-guy school. So, you know, growing up, it was just like football, football, football, football.
And essentially, you know, I got to a point where it was just like, oh, at eight years old, nine years old, he ran for 265 yards on, you know, six carries, three touchdowns, and he's the best player out here. Wait, is that a real stat line? That is a real stat line.
Wait, can you say it again? Nine years old? Eight or nine years old. Okay, hang on.
I'm going to – I remember against Lewiston Porter, and it was 265 yards on six carries, three touchdowns. This is like playing on rookie mode.
And I have a proclamation. I got my own day named after me at nine years old in New York State.
I'm dead serious. I have it in my room still.
And Byron Brown, who's still the mayor of Buffalo today, gave me my own day because I won the pump, pass, and kick. You did four times, right? You won four years in a row, pump, pass, and kick? If only we could could pull a video from there dude what was there a point where you're like i'm kind of bored with the competition like you were just dominating punt pass and kick my dad shout out to my dad like he just i remember going to the bills games growing up because i went to every bills game right and you know i'd be able to be on the lot in the locker room with the guys whether it was on the field off the field whatever and so one day i was like dad how did those guys get on the field like that and i was at eight eight years old i believe and he was like oh that's pump has a kick you got to work really hard to get there i'm like well shit let's do it and so every day he was on my ass like chad you got to throw you got a point you got a kick and it was every single day for like eight nine years straight it was rain sleep snow shine and my dad got me a moped to be able to go like a mile away to use the local field and i had a bucket bag of balls and i just carried my way there and you know punted passing cake by myself and a dynasty four years in a row what what was the what stadium did you like because don't you progress yeah yeah and then you do the.
Where were the championships? One was in – or two were in Indianapolis. Okay.
Surprising. Yeah.
One was in Pittsburgh. One was in, I don't know, San Diego.
That's awesome. Kansas City was my first year.
Okay. And so my uncle introduced it, like the award to me, and it was like, oh, like, is this really an award award?

Yeah, yeah.

Right, because like, yeah, it's his nephew right there.

No, but you dominated.

You won that shit.

Yeah, you won it.

They measure it.

It's a measurement of statistics.

Yeah, one try.

So how far were you passing?

How far were you punting?

So I remember at age nine, my dad was like, it's about consistency.

And it was like 30 yards straight.

I literally went 30, 30, 30 on everything at nine years old, and I won the whole thing. And I was like it's about consistency and it was like 30 yards straight i literally went 30 30 30 on everything at nine years old and i won the whole thing i was like okay cool so the next year it was like all right i got to get like six or seven more yards and then you know it was always in between that i didn't make it because i was a year younger yeah and so then i always wanted at the top of my age group and it was always like oh now i'm at 40 now i'm at 50 oh now i'm at like 60 70 and i remember the one time i was like man i don't know if i'm gonna win today i'm seeing this kid punt the ball like 70 yards kick the ball like 70 he goes up the pass those are like 15 yards i'm like that's a nerd god i'm winning another win another win so then you start getting recruiting uh how did that go? Were your family involved in that? So actually growing up, I was getting recruited by Joe Pott at Penn State.
Okay. And I was living in Pennsylvania.
And I remember, you know, when I went to go visit the one time, he came up. You know, God rest his soul.
But he came up, shook my hand, and he didn't shake anybody else's hand. And so felt like immediate like oh man he really wants me and he literally walked right out the tunnel straight to me shook my hand went on the field didn't shake no other recruits hand so i was like man i really want to go here and then all of a sudden all that stuff happened yep and so then you know then i move up to buffalo because you know things transpired in in pennsylvania and then kind of you know just things kept going you know the right way i kept on you know, things transpired in Pennsylvania.
And then kind of, you know, just things kept going, you know, the right way. I kept on, you know, getting better.
And there wasn't much to it. It's just like every regular recruiting, you know.
It was, I think, Western Michigan first. Second was, like, Florida State.
And then third was, I don't know, Alabama. And then all of a sudden it was like, all right, well, this kid's going somewhere.
Yeah, yeah. went to Clemson for a year and then you played for Hugh Freeze and that was like those Ole Miss teams were so much fun it's uh it's crazy you're the only Ole Miss quarterback to ever beat uh LSU Auburn and Alabama in the same season which is pretty nuts uh but like that whole ride that year I know obviously your senior year you had you had an injury, but it must have been so exciting to have, especially an SEC program that hasn't had a ton of success.
Like, you're going in and beating the big dogs. Yeah.
I remember, you know, because I went to junior college, right? And so, like, when I was at Clemson, the day I left, I got an instant message or, you know, DM by Coach Freeze. And he's like, hey, go to East Mississippi.
You're coming here. I was like, all right, that's a done deal.
I'm going here. I'm going to go play in the SEC.
I'm going to go have fun in the best conference. And so I remember getting to Ole Miss, and obviously the recruiting was super fun.
And obviously back then everything was not legal, but somehow it's all legal now. Yes.
I can't make. You would have made so much money in the NIL.
Yeah. You would have.
You obviously think about that, right? Yeah. And there is some things in the works, maybe.
Oh, okay. You know, maybe some people should get compensated, right? Oh, yeah.
I don't know. It might happen, might not.
I don't know. But anyways, yeah, playing at Ole Miss, I mean, that was the best time of my life.
I actually should say the first three weeks of Clemson was the best time of my life. And then the whole time I was at Ole Miss was the best time of my life.
So my favorite Chad Kelly play was at Ole Miss. It's against Alabama.
You know the one I'm about to show you? I would assume so. This one is just a wild fucking football play.
You want to narrate this? Yeah. So, alright.
So, pause it right here. So, it's third and two, right? And there's the stack receivers up top.
You see them just above the screen? Alright, so that's Laquan. And I remember, me and Laquan had worked every single day for that week.
We're like, yo, we're going to get man coverage at some point in the game. We're going to have to throw a fade, and we're going to complete it.
We probably threw 250 after practice fade balls, right? And so he was like, yo, whenever you went in doubt, just throw it up to me. And so I was going to throw it right away because the corner is probably like eight, nine yards off, and then the nickel is out wide, and he's probably pressed on the ball, whatever he is.
And I was like, all right, I'm going to throw it no matter what. And I was going to throw it.
If the ball was perfect, I'm throwing the ball, and we're getting first down. Chad Kelly, he has a photographic memory.
That's what it sounds like to me. He could read a defense when you were 12 years old, right? All right, here we go.
Even younger. Whoa.
All right, so up in the air. All goes to hell.
Right up in the air, bounce back. That's exactly how you drew it up.
Shout out to Clifton. And then he's gone.
Yeah, that was a surreal moment. Yeah, beating Alabama.
I mean, it doesn't happen often, especially during that run that they had. Yeah, obviously they had some fantastic players, fantastic coaches.
That's why I think Coach Kiffin's still salty at me. Really? Oh, because was at alabama then yeah oh okay yeah so we got to mend that relationship yeah yeah because he's i mean we we have uh ben mince is the number one ole miss fan in the world so he essentially coaches the team so i think we can figure that out yeah yeah how many how many nfl teams do you think you could start forward now now that you've been you're back training I know that you said yeah when you came on the show a while ago I think you said half of them are you still standing by that well let's let's put it this way you know I wanted to start a podcast like you know five months ago you know I was a coach two years ago right for a junior college team East Mississippi where I went to junior college at and we went nine and one right and I learned a football from Phillip Rivers, Andrew Luck, Nick Siriana, Frank Reich, Mike McCoy, Bill Musgrave, Case Keenum, Brock Osweiler.
There's so many quarterbacks that I learned so much from. And I was like, man, what makes the difference between a great quarterback where he's getting 200 mil plus guaranteed and a guy who's on his on his rookie deal or you know a guy who's playing

for minimum wage or you know just a below average salary it's the ability to read down the field progressions and be able to deliver a great ball in tight man coverage if you can throw a deep 20 yard in and read the progression from right to left without getting sacked or having to move off your you and it's not a perfect position in the pocket, can you complete that? And I can honestly say that I believe I can read that at that progression and deliver a ball that is going to be completed. And it's interesting you say that because I do think, I think it's starting to happen a little bit in the NFL where those deep passes, people are starting to realize, oh, the way the NFL has gone, having a 70% completion percentage, a lot of guys can do.
But it's making the game-changing throws that differentiates. It's why Anthony Richardson is being talked about in a different way right now going into the draft his you know his completion percentage accuracy wasn't that great in college but he has that ability to make those deep throws and teams will take a chance on and i think you're exactly right i mean that's what it comes down to if the way when i was training before i was training with a guy named steve fairchild and he told me a statistic when he was with Phillip Rivers, and he said that I'm training you to be an off-platform quarterback.
And I was like, what do you mean? He's like, not everything's going to be perfect. Out of 1,500 throws, dropbacks that he had, Phillip Rivers only went to his first or second read 500 times.
So think, that's 33%, 30% of all the times he dropped back. So every other time it was always someone else.
So he's going from one to one to one, and he has to move around in the pocket. Right.
And so that's a different thing when if a guy can move in the pocket and has good feet and sits back on his back foot enough to be able to have enough power to drive through the throw, that's what's going to make a great quarterback. Personally, from a coach's perspective, when I was a coach, that's what I wanted to see for my quarterbacks.
So you mentioned the coaching. So let's just say five years from now you get back in the NFL, you play a little bit, maybe you're in the CFL as well.
Yeah, but would you say football is life forever? Like this is going to be something whether you're not playing maybe you're coaching like you're you want to do this for the rest of your life you know I got a little taste of it um when I was in junior college right and it's still junior college but at a point where it was I was waking up at 8 and leaving at 11 30 I'm talking about college kids like do they really give a shit they don't want to be here they're all in you know junior college for a reason right and it was a point where i go these kids aren't even watching film i remember when i was here i was at least coming in every day to watch film and i was like these kids don't really care so would i want to be on a on a higher level to have a guy that is wanting to be the best right yes for sure but it's a lot of work yeah it's a ton of work it is and that junior

college that you went to that was last chance you right yep eastern mississippi yep yeah so that was before they started filming i think right like maybe the year yes but i was a coach two years ago right yeah so what's that like being in and around last chance you like can you are the cameras in the way do the kids are kids going to school there now because they know of last chance you they want to get on TV?

It's hard to say.

I think there's a lot more guys now that feel entitled like oh i'm at last chance you i should get these offers well yo whatever you're putting out on film is what a coach is going to offer you right not just because you're here and hey coach you got to get me get me here i can only

do so much yeah i feel like that with last chance you now since it's become such a big thing maybe some kids are like i finally made it once they get to last chance you that's like their i made it moment and not realizing that that's that's the very start of the journey that they have exactly exactly yeah and and to be honest a lot of it's mental right i mean there's a when I was there, there was no Dollarama there. There literally was two gas stations, and one of them was open until 10 o'clock.
The other one was open until, like, midnight. And that's hard to do when, you know, school's only from Monday to Thursday.
So now you've got the whole weekend. So what about the kids that are out-of-state players, you know? Obviously, they're a little bit more better and have chances to go farther.
But, you know, as a player, mentally there is very difficult. So you mentioned all those football coaches you had, and you throw in Hugh Freeze, maybe even Dabo.
What one coach has given you the best piece of advice or something that you just always – it always sticks in your head? Probably Bill Musgrave, honestly. Okay.
And, you know, he was John Elway's backup with Kubiak, right, back when they were really good. And it was don't pass one to take one, which means it's okay to take the fat chick in the flats.
Yep. You don't have to pass her.
Right. Just take her.
Right. Right.
Right. Yeah, because those throws are there, and guys sometimes just forget about them.
And, like, you know, it's not sexy. It's not a sexy throw, but what's going to happen? Defense is going to start coming up, coming up, coming up.
Now you get it over the top. Yeah.
That's smart. That's good advice.
And if you watch Aaron Rodgers, he does a very good job at that. He dinks, he dunks, he dunks.
Now it's the deep ball. Now it's getting completed.
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And now here's more Chad Kelly. Did you get any calls from the 49ers last year once they had all their quarterbacks start to go? No one? Damn.
That's bullshit. They called Big Ben.
I know. Big Ben's a good dude.
Is he? You know him? Yeah. He's a very solid guy.
He's a very solid guy. He's always injured, but yeah.
Yeah. I've never hung out with him, but I obviously have spoken to him, and's a very solid guy so uh what like are there teams right now that are you know obviously the draft kind of changes everything because teams are going to draft their quarterbacks and that that that takes away some more spots but where are you at in terms of conversations i don't know your agent or whatever so so i i didn't have an agent i had an agent back in i don't know whatever when i came out Guy offered me so much stuff and I was like I don't know, your agent or whatever.
So I didn't have an agent. I had an agent back in, I don't know, whatever, when I came out.
Guy offered me so much stuff, and I was like, I can't not take it. Right.
And then, you know, coming to realize, guys, like there's a lot of money being passed around under the table. If you don't know that, there is.
And, you know, it happens through certain agencies, the bigger ones. You know, obviously you can throw a little bit more here and there for you know if the gm is represented by this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy on the same team well why wouldn't we just take this guy right it makes it easier for all of us right and so uh i just think it's it's kind of weird with agencies now man like it seems like it's about it's kind of sad right it's a soft spot right now have you gotten an agent yeah yeah i have i have a very good one it's more of a marketing agent kind of uh that's doing a little bit more he's fantastic like he's in he's got me to this position right now um obviously i was on a shit contract uh and still am about a i mean it's not a shit contract, but, you know, it's all incentive-based, right? Guys want, you know, guaranteed money.
Guys want, you know, a base salary. You shouldn't want to just hit the incentives.
You want to make more, right? Right. So, yeah, I think I have some good people that are in the works right now.
We've talked to the Cleveland Browns and the Panthers recently.

People have been talking, obviously, but they don't want to pull that trigger.

They don't want to go a step ahead and go, yes.

Okay.

I'll tell you what.

There are probably some GMs that are listening to this podcast right now. Yeah.

Shout out to them.

Shout out to the GMs.

Bring me in and let's talk football.

Yes.

Sit down.

Let's put on a game. Let's watch football.
You tell me yes, no, no, yes. Whatever you want to do.
Yeah. I like that.
Because I do think you – I'm a big believer in guys should have second chances, third chances. You should get at least a chance to compete.
If you don't win the job, if you don't get on a roster, then that is what it is. But is but to not have a chance to at least show yourself that would suck it's not just about throwing the ball right i mean there's more to it in the nfl being able to you know kill a play because the free safety's down weak you know and anything like that and i think just the process of elimination when you're out there on the field how quick can that be right we talk about having accelerated vision and if you have accelerated vision you will do very very well and that's what frank kind of that was his big thing was accelerated vision yeah so uh maybe a little tougher question um being jim kelly's nephew is that because i've read quotes where they're like you know it kind of sucked for him because he was never chad kelly he was jim kelly's nephew would you feel that growing up like everyone

looked at you and said okay this guy is from a legendary family he should be the next jim kelly

yeah and you're exactly right i mean everywhere you went with him he was always having to take

pictures and photos and you know he's the greatest thing ever. I would say right now, he's a top five face person in New York.
Yeah. I think he has that star power and that look that everybody's like, oh, that's Jim Kelly, that's Jim Kelly, that's Jim Kelly.
It's like, all right, yep, that's him. And so as a kid, you know, you see that growing up and you're like, is he a superhero? Right.
You know, and I used to be scared to calling him on the phone. Be like, I know this is my uncle.
I know it's my dad's older brother. But like, I was scared to call him because I didn't know how he was going to be like, this is a superhero.
Right. So, you know, it was good and bad.
Yeah bad yeah and in buffalo we're big fans of the city of buffalo um what's your favorite wing place uh barbell for sure okay that's a good answer yeah yeah they got good beef on wet yeah very yeah do you have a glass that's on on the wall i do not yeah i've never said have you sat down and ate there yes okay yeah i've never went with um eric wood and Incognito a few years ago. Both those guys, fantastic people.
They probably ate $700 worth of chicken wings. Yeah.
I mean, it's just Buffalo's the best. But that spot is very expensive.
Yeah. Yeah.
You should go to Wingnuts. Yeah, that's our place.
Okay, that's wild. You say it.
My mom just had that two weeks ago, and she's like, it's super, super good.

It's awesome.

So it's crazy because it's a very Buffalo story.

We love the city of Buffalo.

We've gone there a bunch.

Obviously, we love Josh Allen.

And I got hit up randomly.

Someone in Buffalo hit me up and was like, hey, you got to try this place.

It's in the Knights of Columbus kitchen.

So it's not even a restaurant.

Really?

So we showed up.

We're like, I guess we'll figure out what this guy, Ed and his wife, Alicia, had been running it out of a Knights of Columbus kitchen. So it's not even a restaurant.
Really? So we showed up. We're like, I guess we'll figure out what this guy, Ed and his wife, Alicia had been

running it out of a Knights of Columbus.

And we tried it and we're like, these are the best wings ever.

And then we raised some money for them.

And now they have like a couple of locations and restaurants.

We love it.

And so what is it called?

It's called Wingnuts.

Oh, so that's the same people.

Yes.

Oh, okay.

They were literally running it out of the Knights of Columbus.

No way.

It was just like, you just walk in and it looked like you were going to an AA meeting. That's what the room looked like.
Yeah, and you just sit down, and they had wings, two types of fries, and they're just like, here's what we do. We do it well.
It's right across, at least the closest one to me. Yeah, two, I think now.
Yeah. Do they? Yeah.
Okay. So there's one right across from Fat Man's Pizza.
Okay. And just very plain pizza.
Not, it's plain versus. It's Fat Man's Pizza.
Exactly. Yeah.
I get it. They named it perfectly.
Yeah. But yeah, these chicken wings, they are, they're not just the best chicken wings in the world.
They are one of the best meals I've ever had in my life. Really? They're that good.
Yes. And we say it all the time on the show, and usually if we talk up a place like this enough, people will be like, yeah, it was good, but it wasn't as good as you guys made it out to be.
All we hear from people is like, yeah, it delivers as advertised. And they're like the best people ever.
And we also should say, if we're talking about Buffalo food, I respect Lenovo. Respect.
Oh, yeah. You know, I used to work there.
Really? Yeah. Respect.
Yeah, we love Lenovo. Yeah.
So we respect. You want me to – I'll share your story.
Okay. Obviously, I was working there.
I was making some money in high school, right, from my senior year after football to before I went to Clemson. And I remember Mario Williams came into town, right, and he was going to sign to the Bills.
He wasn't sure. He was still undecided.
Well, I go, hey, I think I can get us, let's get him a pizza.

Let's bring him a pizza.

And so we built a six-foot pizza, a six-foot pizza that said,

come to Buff 90, I think it said.

I don't know.

Whatever.

Anyways.

Yeah.

And he ended up coming, and he was like, yo, this is one of the best pizzas I've ever had look at that and now they're sponsored yeah yeah they are they're in the stadium we know some of the guys from Lenovo and so I just saw you know the head man two three weeks ago at the Sabres game and he was like you know that that sealed the deal for us to you know be part of the Bills that's awesome so that great like i had i had a piece of yeah you did yeah we love they got great wings no they do yeah yeah uh so well and i will say this if you ever if you ever find out a team is in buffalo and they go to either lenova or chefs you know italian bet against that team yeah yeah i Yeah. Yeah, I like that.
The food's too good. I'm just telling you.
No, yeah. The food's too good.
Yeah, that's where it is. The food's just really good.
No, it's too good. And then they show up the next day and they're still full.
The food's too good. No, for real.
Yeah. Every time.
Yeah. When I get text messages about, you know, oh, hey, that was a shit game, but damn, Lenovo was so good.
Her chefs so good, and they get blown out by 30, 40 points.

All right.

When you were on the Colts, did you think that you were going to get in?

Did they tell you that you were going to have an opportunity to get in the game

and play?

Because everybody – there were so many opportunities

because they were digging through backups.

Certain people couldn't throw the ball 50 yards down the field.

No, I literally thought.

Every week I was like, this is the week that Chad's going to get in. When Jacoby got hurt and Hoyer started against Miami Dolphins, he threw three interceptions in the first half.
I said, man, there's got to be something. You know, got to be something.
And then it never happened. And I was like, man, we practice all week for me to at least get three run plays.
You know, zone read, whatever. And it just, you that was you know yeah there's uh there's a deep state that's keeping chad kelly from from slinging it in the nfl we need him to sling it oh yeah by the way the um the rap song talk us through that reese davis uh saying it on college game day is still one of the funniest he was just narrating it uh what what what's the what's the actual? Can you tell us the lines again? The Reese Davis clip.
I don't even listen to it. I saw the guy that made it probably like three months ago.
And he said, bro, I just want you to know the whole hood loves you and forever loves you. Because now he is actually the producer for Griselda Records.
Oh, shit.

Well, we know them, too.

Well, there you go.

We did a song with Benny.

A song with Benny.

Oh, well, it's his producer.

We probably know him.

We were probably in the studio.

Well, his old name was G5.

Okay.

Now, I don't know.

I remember his G5.

I don't even know what they call him now.

That's crazy.

We're two degrees of separation away from Chad Kelly.

But just in terms of being featured on Benny the Butcher songs, it's just kind of wild. Here's Reese Davis.
Erskine Rapper turned Rebel quarterback Chad Kelly. He sounds like a hater.
Yeah. When you say Erskine Rapper.
You can't see me, Chad Kelly. Nobody's going to stop me, Chad Kelly.
Watch my touchdowns, Chad Kelly. The field is going down, Chad Kelly.
Was he trying to insult me? I don't know. Yeah, he was.
When you hear a guy say an erstwhile rapper, you know that he's not about to say anything good. Watch my touchdowns, Chad Kelly.
Hater. Yeah, no, I mean, that was, you're like, fuck it, things are going well.
I feel like that's a lot of athletes put out a rap song. No, no, no.
Where they're just like, things are going so well, let's just try a rap song. It had nothing to do with that.
You won't even believe how it really transpired. We're literally sitting there, we're watching a movie, and it was about Miami cocaine cowboys.
And it was me, this guy, Stevie Johnson's best friend, and my boy.

And we're all sitting there watching this movie.

And it's like 1130.

He was like, hey, I got an idea.

I was like, all right.

He was like, let's go upstairs.

I got a studio upstairs.

And it is a shit studio.

Like, this is back when nobody had any money, right?

We're all like high school kids, you know.

And he might have been a little older, but, you know, whatever.

Obviously, he's grown up to, you know, do big things.

Very successful, yeah.

Yeah.

And so he was like, I got an idea.

He was like, say these five things.

I was like, all right.

He was like, put in a little bit of, like, juice with it.

And I was like, all right.

And I did it.

And he was like, all right, tomorrow you're going to be like, this is sweet.

I was like, all right.

So, you know, not thinking anything, he was like, I got it.

He sent me a text. I got it.
Just sent it to your email. He was like, and so I listened not thinking anything he was like i got it he sent me a text i got it just sent it to your email he was like and so i listened to my parents were right there i was like mom listen to this and she was like whoa i don't know how i feel about this and so and so then he was like post it i was like uh all right like shit he made it so i was like yeah i'll post it and then he was like he said i remember he said he said like post it one or two more times and next thing you know everybody was like swag kelly swag yeah yeah watch my touchdowns chad kelly it's just a great line that's good yeah um i know that billy wants to unload the clip right now because he is you're his favorite person yes he was telling us before he came in that billy used to watch clips of you every single day like before football practice, before football games.
He would watch clips of Chad to get hyped up. Wait, like on the bus to games I used to watch your highlights because when I was in high school you were like balling Ole Miss and then it would always be set to the Chad Kelly song so I'd be like warmed up and be like, Chad Kelly.
Wait, I have a question though. I'm just trying to like channel.
Am I remembering correctly? Did you at one point block Billy, though? Did you? Yeah, why? I don't know. We got to get to the bottom of it.
You know, I just talked to the guy, the guy that does the weight rooms, right? And I was like, hey, I think I'm about to go over to pardon my take with the boys. And he was like, man, I really like those guys.
I was like, why? He was like, man, they just keep it so fair and i was like i feel that and he's like if someone you know fucks up they're like hey let's interview him let's bring him on like you know let's hear here you know what happened or you know why he's he's a guy like this right and then i was like man back a few years ago or you know 10 what up 5 10 years ago and i was like damn they're coming at me hard and then after a while i'm like no well fuck it's my fault for doing this dumb shit you know i appreciate that because i do think that like part of uh what we try to always do with this show is we will make fun of anyone including mostly ourselves yeah but we also will talk to anyone and like listen if you get arrested in a woody costume we're gonna crack a shitload of jokes but we also aren't gonna be like chad kelly's a bad guy he shouldn't be he shouldn't be like walking this earth right that's where some people do that where they're like one mistake and you're done it's like no he fucked up we're gonna have fun with it and then you know he's cool no you got you guys definitely keep it fair and all the boys back home my cousin he's got the damn Viva LeBar stool on his back of his car. It's like, all right.
Well, Buffalo is like, if we ever like Pablo Escobar, when he had to like, everyone was coming after him. If we ever had everyone in the world coming at us, we'd just move to Buffalo and be like, our people will defend us.
Well, Uncle Jim thinks very highly of you guys too. Yeah, we got to get him on the show.
He was going to come today. He's actually in town.
Oh, shit. Yeah, and he actually has his MRI today at 10 until 12, and I was like, fuck.
How's he feeling? Is he doing all right? Yeah, he's good. That's good.
He's good. Yeah.
Is he here tomorrow? No, he's leaving right after 10. All right, well, we'll have to do that sometime.
We'll go through Buffalo for great. Yeah, we could do it there, maybe.
So, Billy, you want to unload the clip? I know you've got a million questions for him. Yeah, go for it, Billy.
Wait, but why'd you block Billy? Because I think he was being a hater. Yeah, okay.
In all sense, it was just love. I think I was guilty by association.
No, he never blocked us. He never blocked me.
Hand up. I've made jokes before, but I think Big Cat's right.
The difference, like when we joke about, we're not doing it in a mean way right we're just joking to make jokes i think sometimes people see anything on the internet and they're like well this person's trying to cancel me i'm never trying to cancel anybody no i think chad's reaction is exactly how i would hope most people were like initially they're like fuck these guys and then after like a few weeks they're like wait no they're just having fun yeah and and and so uh you know it's wild that this all transpired anyways about four weeks ago when went to the uh maple leafs game i ran into the owner right and uh his son and him came with me he's like hey oh you know the guys over there at barstool i was like i mean i don't know him personally but i i you know have kept him. And he was like, man, tell them that whatever game they want, they're all invited and it's all taken care of.
So you know, this is straight from the guy. Nice.
So whenever you guys want to pick a game, all you guys are invited, all is taken care of. I think this is the Maple Leafs year.
I know I said that last year. I'm going to bet on them.
But now this is the year. They're too talented, dude.
They've got all the talent in the world. It's been so long.
This is the year that the Maple Leafs return to glory. Yeah, it's coming home.
Now that I found out that they're a fan of this show. I've always loved the Maple Leafs.
I have too. Ty Domi.
Ty Domi. Matt Sundin.
Did you see Darcy Tucker? Domi Sun's pass yesterday. Oh, no, I didn't.
He's sick, though. It was a nice pass to the game winner.
Max, yeah. He's very good.
It was a nice little. Nice.
So, Billy. Go ahead.
Go off, Billy. Look, I followed your story since high school.
You were another New York State quarterback, so I was always looking at guys in the area. Basically neighbors, yeah.
Made to the SEC, so I was like, maybe I can go to the SEC. People usually like Jack Kelly Billy football.
No, no, no. So, but like when you're growing up but so i got an idea for the rebrand uh-huh okay yep so is chad your full first name yes do you think you could change it to chadford chatty chat or chadford chad well your brother chadwick your brother played lacrosse right did you play lacrosse yes so in the nfl they love NFL, they love bringing up lacrosse for some reason.
So we need to play down your swag like Trojan horse your swag so you can get a backup job and then just take over. I like that.
What's your middleman? Patrick. Patrick.
I actually wouldn't hate CP Kelly. CP Kelly? CP Kelly.
That's too much swag. Okay, so Patrick Kelly.
No, Chad. Pat Kelly.
And then just play at the lacrosse angle, Vineyard Vines. I love it.
And then you could easily get into a quarterback room. I love it.
Because they're going to be like, oh, this dude's like Case Keenum. You know who plays every sport.
I remember when Dabo was like messing with me. I was like, well, I'll just go and play lacrosse on the lacrosse team and I'll see you guys during the regular season.
I'm not going to go through spring ball. and he was like, well, I'll just go and play lacrosse on the lacrosse team, and I'll see you guys during the regular season.
I'm not going to go through spring ball. And he was like, I was like, yo, if I'm not going to be the starter, I might as well go play lacrosse and get better footwork-wise or something.
Yeah, yeah. Compete.
Did he like that? No, he didn't. Yeah, but that's what we have to know.
But that's a great story because we've got to be like Chad Kelly, Patrick Kelly, CP Kelly, is such a competitor that if he's just sitting there doing nothing, he'll go play another sport. 1,000%.
Because you love competing. 1,000%.
NFL teams love that. It's like my guys just want to compete.
Dude, lacrosse is the greatest sport ever. Really? Dude, it's so fun.
But we own the championship team, Water Dogs. No big deal.
Well, can I get a try? Yes. Yes.
Oh, absolutely. Hell yeah.
For real. Yes.
We can definitely make that happen. I'll play defense, midi, long pull.
It don't matter. Okay.
Attack? I dabble in attack, but more midi. I like to run.
Okay. Yeah.
I think we need some midis. We do.
We've been looking at the roster every night. A lot of guys have been retiring.
They won the chip, and they all retired. It's a Zoomer thing.
They don't want to work anymore. They were playing MLL and they were playing the whole career without much success and then they finally got a championship.
How many guys retired? Our captain retired. That sends a bad message.
After he just won? He doesn't have that dog in him. You don't want to defend your title? When you're working a job and playing lacrosse on the weekends,

like professional lacrosse, a lot of these guys are like,

yeah, I got the chip.

I'm hanging it up.

No, I mean, there's not much money.

We'll get you a trial.

Yeah, we'll get you a trial for sure.

No problem.

I would love to play.

Do you have any interest in USFL, XFL?

Yeah.

It goes back to an agent.

The agent was just kind of like, hey, this league's a little newer. I think you'd be better off in a bigger city, 20 games, blah, blah, blah.
Could have played for 10 games and maybe had a chance to go back. Right.
The XFL is weird too this time around because you're practicing in Arlington and you're living in Texas and then you fly. Is that what it is? Yeah, you fly to your city for your games and then you go back to Texas.
It's a weird setup. You keep referencing that whole agent scenario.
What do you think is going on with Lamar? With that whole – because you have better insight than any of us. I don't have any insight on it, but, you know, if we were to pull up his best game, you would probably be like, all right, do you really pay him $200 million guaranteed? Yeah.
I mean, you got to think. Whoever puts his stamp on him, you're ride or die with him.
And guess what? A lot of offensive corners, they want to throw the ball. Yeah.
I mean, I would personally do it because as a Commanders fan, he would be the best quarterback that our team has ever had. Who's better? Tyler or him? I think he is.
I don't think you win the MVP of the NFL by accident. You have to be really good.
That's a full season. Right.
And I know that there's injury concerns, which are totally fair to bring up. And the last few years, he hasn't played the full season.
But I still would bet on a guy like that. When was his worst year, this year? Yeah, I mean, the last two years he's been injured down the stretch.
So Wink Martindale, right, who was the defensive coordinator, who was the linebacker coach, who had been there for a long time, right? Where is he now? He's in New York, yeah. What happened to Daniel Jones? Somehow he just elevated his game.
That is definitely, I think that gets underrated in terms of, even in Denver this past year, like a lot of the reason why, not a lot of the reason why, but I think part of the reason why Russ might have struggled was Nathaniel Hackett hired a friend of his for defensive coordinator, and maybe they weren't putting as much pressure on him in practice that now he might have with Sean Payton being like, I'm going to actually test you here. It's not going to be easy in practice.
Hire him as a GM. I love that.
Who's the toughest defense coordinator you ever practiced against? Good question. Was Vic Fangio? No, he was the head coach.
No. Was he head coach at Denver? I mean, Ibra Flolus was pretty good.
Oh, I like that. I like that.
He's my coach. But even in college, though, some of those guys were really good.
I remember even Vanderbilt when we played against Derek Mason. Yeah.
Like, this is the hardest thing. As a quarterback, when you get into odd man fronts, right, and teams know how your blocking schemes are or protection schemes are, right?

And they, you know, overload one side and then, you know, bring two guys from the other side.

They know that you're sliding to the guys that are all over there and they're going to have to throw hot backside.

And so that's the biggest thing where, you know, defense coordinators get people is that, like, you know, you got Greg Williams.

You watch San Francisco's defense.

Go turn on that film.

I think it's fun to watch. Looking at, like, rookie quarterbacks coming into the league, there's always, like, for example, Belichick always got their number, always got, like, some sort of defensive coverage that just messes them up.
What do you think is the easiest mistake those guys make

that they just don't know coming from college?

Well, it's cover zero.

Remember the one time they were like,

oh, he's seeing ghosts.

Sam Darnold?

I remember, I went back and watched,

it was like four or five straight

snaps, or it was like three or

four straight third downs that they went cover zero. And then they were like minus 20, right? Not on the plus 20.
And for guys to do that down, backed up, it's like, oh, you're taking a risk. You might get an 80-yard touchdown.
But when you put a quarterback in that situation as a young guy, he doesn't necessarily know. He knows where his hot is, but they still might be able to defend the hot because they're sitting at that depth where your hot is, right? Or they're trapping it and playing 0-2 or 2-0, whatever it is.
And I think the biggest thing is that they can't physically comprehend what to do at such quick decisions when it's cover zero. in practice you would practice hey there's a four

or five different cover zero looks that you're gonna get we might have to go back seven eight years to pull the clips up but these are possibilities that you got to be ready for and that's why i love you know being in indianapolis and was amazing about that we did that before every i think friday and thursday practice we would work just on that like the at the first part of practice. Then when I was in Denver, the play call would be so long.
Like I'm talking about kill this and then a alert to cover zero beater. And you're like, all right, Peyton did that.
Now you're asking, you know, Brock Osweiler and all of us to do it, and you're like, all right, we're not Peyton. Right.
And that's a long call that's that's 22 seconds of a call and you're like all right they're they're playing cover zero all right I gotta fix it now yeah yeah it's a lot to do yeah as a fan that's one of the dumb thoughts that I've had why don't they just make play calls shorter I know some teams do way shorter verbiage than others and then you see like Sean McVay's offense which takes you know 15 seconds sometimes to read a play call off well Why can't they simplify all that? You know, I don't know why, but there's one play that you can run every single time. What's that? It's cheese play.
Go watch. Call it.
It needs to be. Kyler does it in men.
You learn that. It needs to be.
Yeah. But it's literally, go watch Sean Payton and them with Alvin Kamara.
He has an option route, one-on-one. Whether it's to the front or back, he has an option route.

He can either go in, out, or break in at a 45.

And it's always a one-receiver side, back side.

Then you look at Michael Thomas.

All right, now the two-receiver side.

Now Michael Thomas can go in, he can go out, he can break at a 45.

So now the outside guy has a comeback or a go where, hey,

everybody's clumped up inside, now you work outside. Yeah.
And now you go to a three-receiver side, now number two and number three are now doing an option route with an in-back side and a post or a comeback on the outside. And those option routes cannot be stopped, fellas.
If the guy is covered, it's because he fucked up. Yeah.
It also helps that you have – What I'm hearing is bring Chad back to Denver, put him in Sean Payton's offense, and you get a first down every single time. You know the play.
We should say Alvin Kamara and Michael Thomas. That probably is part of it.
You go back and watch. Go back and watch my first preseason game ever.
I'm playing against Mike Zimmer, and he's bringing cover zero. He's bringing all these exotic blitzes.
My first preseason game, and we knew it coming like he he was obviously wanting to do something like that and the first time i drove down the field we scored and it was the same route right an option route by philip lindsey he broke in at a 45 degree angle he caught it like this ran in for like third and 12 touchdown and i'm like man that is unstoppable. It's unstoppable every single time.

He can't lose.

He can't lose.

You got it.

All right.

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No, I just wanted to go back to that

cover zero stuff. Because like,

I don't know, low levels of football, like

when I saw cover zero, first thought was

hot route, go route,

just like take the blitz, but get that ball

up and out there. So are you saying that

because it's so fast for rookie quarters back in the NFL

that they're not thinking of the simple thing?

Or is it that they're throwing some sort of

Thank you. just like take the blitz but get that ball up and out there.
So are you saying that because it's so fast for rookie quarters back in the NFL that they're not thinking of the simple thing, or is it that they're throwing some sort of like twist, some sort of advanced like second-level thing that is just next level? So look, there's cover zero, there's cover zero hole, there's double cover zero hole, right, or zero double hole. And there's also a thing called green dog and uh blitz the back right so all these things there's essentially five or six different cover zeros that you can do right and you know that's where it's like guys could you know come and and and then drop out and now he's sitting in the hole where you're throwing a slant or you know he's dropping right under the hitch and so guys just have to you know have enough film work to know what is the best idea can i give them a hot route you know give them a 10 yard stop can i give them a quick out you know all these things go into the equation from film study throughout the week that you're like hey if they go cover zero here what are you gonna do like i remember when i was in denver i was staying there till like 8 or 9 o'clock.
Coach had it literally a week before I got in trouble. Coach goes, hey, stop staying in here so late.
So it's Coach's fault, actually. Coach literally said.
He said, stop staying in here so late. I was like, damn, all right.
And so I started, you know, that week. Did it drag you out of the film? Yeah, if he hadn't said that.
I was going back to like 2012, 2010, and I'm watching Antonio Cromartie when he first came to the NFL, and I'm writing up a synopsis on how we think we can attack him. And I'm going back.
I'm just like, yo, there's so many exotic blitzes that guys are doing that. Guys are cheating inside.
Guys are cheating outside. He's coming up right on the snap because he knows he's going to get a quick route.
Guys know where they're weak at in the nfl it's just a matter of are you in the right position at the right time we need to we need to put out a a graphic of your preseason because i'm looking at it right now you kind of lit it up in preseason like you well the bears you're seven for nine uh 90 yards one touchdown the vikings game you were talking about where uh zimmer was trying to fuck you up you went 14 for 21 uh 177 yards two touchdowns like well i'll tell you guys pff don't listen to pff okay it's unless they unless unless we can get in because we know some guys yeah chris collinsworth yeah but maybe we can get some of these guys to put a good grade on you then maybe We only listen to you we're gonna have to figure it out okay because that's real yeah because me and my boy in the in the in the uh toronto argonauts or you know workplace we went back and why don't have a facility do you it's it sounds like it's a stadium it's a stadium It. It sounded like it was a WeWork.
At our workplace. At the stadium.
We share it with Toronto Football Club. Okay.
Anyways. And we went back and watched, okay, Mahomes' first preseason game, second preseason game, and how they graded them.
Yeah. And then you go back and watch my first and second preseason game and how they graded me.
And it is a huge disparity. And it's like, wait, why was that graded good? Why was this not graded? And so there's money.
From what I'm being told from a very high guy who's on TV, said that there is money being passed between people to give higher grades. So we got to stop passing the money.
You got to. All right, we got you.
Or we should get our own high guy on TV. No, what we need to do is- Chris Long.
Yeah, we know these people, though. Yeah, 16W.
We like Chris Long. Yeah.
I mean, he's the best. Yeah.
I'll tell you what we should do. I would love to have Chad break down throws of the week.
Yeah. During football season.
Yeah. Let's do it.
You could do that with us. You're're a football mind i got the all 22 ready to go we should do that for a youtube series you can just break it down with us let's do it yeah get chad kelly back in the get him in the conversation but we got we got to think about like what makes the best or like you could be like hey what's the best arm angle throw what's the best like you know uh how he bought some time and still delivered a great ball or you know what was a perfect read versus a very difficult coverage these are all things that i think i want to hear you explain yeah no and we'll because i'm very dumb we can do it because it might not be good for a podcast because it's hard to break down a throw on a podcast but if we did it as a like a 10 minute youtube series that'd be awesome that'd be cool yeah this is how this is how we rebrand you're a student of the game because obviously you watch a lot of football breathe all you care about is football we get you in like billy said you got discord we can get something we get discord we get you in you're the you're the non-threatening backup then you get your shot yeah and now now you're now you're just here to help and all we need is 15% of your contract.
That's it. That's a lot.
That's a lot. We got – I mean, Josh Allen owes us millions.
He owes us $15 million right now. I love Josh.
Josh is awesome. No, he's the best.
Josh is a good dude. Who do you think is the best quarterback in the NFL right now? Besides Swag Kelly.
I mean, it depends. I mean, you got Mah got Mahomes who's winning everything and you got Burrow who you know has just gun to your head Mahomes okay good answer all right you know ball you know ball yeah no it's we joke about it because I think what in media you like try to find the cool answer instead of it's mahomes look when when i went to the bills the last playoff game and i remember i i sat with uh well i got tickets from my boy who plays for uh cincy and so we went up and sat up in the higher higher ups and i was like you know i i've never done this really and so me and my boy are sitting there and we're just like man the energy in here just doesn't feel the same.
And so, like, going through the game, and then we go down to the lower level, I'm like, man, it has not changed. And the energy in the place was just so dull.
And it was never, like, I've never been in a stadium where it was like that. Yeah, it felt weird the whole time.
The whole time. And, like, dude, if the crowd is not into it and, like, the energy is not high, you know about energy, positive vibes, energy.
Like, we can feel it. And that's what I think, like, talking about football, guys can anticipate.
Guys that can anticipate have great energy to be around. Yeah.
Yeah. You've got good energy.
Yeah. You have great energy.
I like this. You got one last question, Billy? One last question.
What's it like being quarterback one at sec school something that people wouldn't expect is it like super sick what's like the coolest what's the part that people like don't know like wouldn't expect wouldn't expect uh i mean i'd expect it to be super ask ask me ask me what you, and then I'll tell you yes or no. He thinks it's super sick.
I once heard a story about Hackenberg having a throne in a frat house. See, no one ever went to frat houses because of what happened with Denzel and Rob Kimdichie the year before they got there.
So no one ever went there. Yeah.
You know, but is it sick? It's the greatest thing I've ever did in my life. The people you encounter.
I mean, dude, there's been multiple occasions where, you know, you have a girl who, you know, invites another girl, that invites another girl, that invites another girl, you know. Yeah, no, we're podcasters.
We go through the same thing. All we do is hang out with Chip.
I have like a threesome every day at lunch. All right, well, Jack Kelly, thank you so much, man.
We appreciate it. This has been so much fun.
Yeah. And we're on the chat.
Patrick Kelly. Patrick Kelly, I like that.
Let's all get on the same page. No, no, wait.
No, I think it's Patrick Kelly. We got to get on the same page here.
I think it's Patrick. Patrick Kelly.
Patrick. And then when you start doing well again, we go to CP Kelly.
I love it. I love it.
Let's do it. Then you start getting real swagged out.
And then you start carrying your movie around with you. Yeah.
Okay. Well, so we'll do Patrick.
Pat Jr. Pat Jr.
Pat Kelly Jr. And then, yeah, CP Kelly when you start going really well, and then we'll go back to Chad because no CP will ever win a title.
All right, because Pat Kelly did play in the NFL. I had another uncle that played in the NFL, linebacker for the Indianapolis Colts.
Okay. Or Baltimore Colts.
Yeah. And so he was the OG of the family.
Okay. I like that.
I love it. Comeback season.
All right. Well, thank you so much, Patrick Kelly.
It's been awesome. Appreciate you guys.
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We got Fyre Fest of the week. Memes and Max, do you guys have Fyre Fest? Do you want to chip in? Do you got anything? I'd come back around to you.
I got one. Oh, okay.
Let's go. My Fyre Fest is you guys saying that this golf video is going to come out.
Oh, no. Because now it's the same thing as everyone.
This is the first time we've done something like this, and it is such a tough edit. Yeah.
So now I just have people on my ass saying, when's a golf video coming out? When's a golf video coming out? So when is it, though? I don't have that answer. Okay, so Tuesday? Yeah, sure.
It was a Tuesday. A Tuesday.
You will see it on Thursday, actually.

Yeah.

It was funny at the time when we were like, yeah, nobody tweeted Max and asked him what it was going to be.

But afterwards, I did feel bad because I know that people will give them.

They will be giving you a lot of shit about it.

Just ignore them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Who cares?

Just ignore them.

Who cares?

You'll get it eventually, you sickos.

If you ask a lot, it will actually speed up the process. Yeah, it'll go a lot faster.
The more people ask me about it. It's like hitting the elevator button as many times as you want.
The elevator goes faster. That's actually a fact.
That's what killed my great-grandfather, though. Yes.
Okay, so on Thursday, you will see the golf video, and the more you ask, the faster it comes.

Yep, exactly.

And the more you subscribe, the faster it'll come out.

Okay, maybe we drop a bonus onto it.

Like, if enough people subscribe, then it'll come out earlier.

Don't say that.

Do you not want more subscribers, Max?

I do, but that could be impossible.

What's it at right now, memes?

Memes is usually right on the numbers.

452,000.

Okay, if we get up to 460,000, Max will release the video.

500,000.

No, in its current state.

Like, unedited.

No, 460, you'll put a teaser. Okay.
500. It comes out.
Sure. Instantly.
Instantly. Instantly.
It'll come out. Instantly.
So if we have 500,000, we get, we gain 45,000 subscribers instantly. Oh, this is, I mean, you brought it back up.
I know. I know.
I know. It will come out, though.
Everyone, please be nice to Max and Memes. They do a great job.
But do ask. PFT or Firefest? My Firefest is that my apartment complex pretty much bombed out the lobby.
So I can't use the lobby. It's my own apartment complex.
It honestly looks like I'm walking through a war zone when i'm walking in or walking out and then they just shut the entire lobby down and so now if i want to leave my apartment i have to like take an extra elevator downstairs walk around the back none of the cabs know where to meet me it's uh it's been pretty bad for the last i'd say like three or four days and maybe the worst part is so they're renovating my entire apartment complex and they're putting in like a sick gym downstairs we don't have a gym yet right when I'm moving to Chicago I would have gotten so swole that's not fair based off that gym so the fact that I probably won't have NBA finals abs like I said that I would it's because the gym has taken taken so long to create. That's not right.
It's not right. It's unfortunate.
Should we have Hank just texted us saying he could join? Should we have him join just so he can do the lottery ball? Because I know how much it would hurt him if he won when he's not here. It would be incredible.
So, yeah, we'll have him join. All right.
My Fire Fest is it happens every year.

This is kind of like the calendar just turns.

But, yeah, it's T-shirt weather again, and I'm not ready.

I'm wearing Spanx again.

I'm back on the Spanx.

So this is a temporary, like, a Band-Aid over a gaping, gaping wound.

Like, I'm bleeding out.

I'm like, oh, just put a little Band-Aid on it.

It'll be fine.

But, yeah, this is a problem for me me we dipped our toe into it in Houston and now I gotta figure out how to lose like 40 pounds that's fine just sweat a lot just start hitting the sauna in the steam room yeah yeah sweat that shit out also we're getting old and the trip that we just took took so much out of me. I still am not like caught up on sleep and just feel off.
Yeah. If you're in Louisiana, you age on dog years.
Yeah. So it really fast forwards a lot of things about your body process.
Yeah. It was one of those trips.
Yeah. I came back and I was like, oh my God, I'm tired.
I slept a shitload on Tuesday. I'm still tired.
Yeah. Need to get untired somehow.
That's a perfect weekend for it with master snaps. Yeah, that's true.
Bonus fire fast, I think, for both Max and myself. So we just spent, what, three days in Louisiana, two and a half days in Louisiana.
We didn't have any gumbo. Oh, I did.
There was no time for gumbo. And the gumbo at that place is some of the best in the world.
Yeah, I do. Usually I try to get at least three gumbos in if I'm staying at that resort, the La Bears in Lake Charles.
Max has never had a gumbo in his life. Yeah, that was sad.
That is sad. I had gumbo.
This just speaks to what I was saying. My fire fest was that it's t-shirt weather and we're not ready, Max.
Oh, yeah. We're not ready.
That was my other one. Yeah.
Dieting sucks. I've done one day of dieting sucks.
I'm wearing Spanx right now. But when we're on the road, it's like I don't even I don't eat like a real human being.
I had for lunch one day had gumbo and a crawfish grilled cheese with French fries. And I ate it all.
And then I looked at it. I was like, that wasn't lunch, dude.
That was way more than lunch. What were you doing? Yeah.
How much did you sleep after that? That sounds like the sleepiest meal of all time yeah i took a nice nap although i was trying to take a nap and my room was right next to the pool so i just heard max holding court just being the gregarious guy he is yeah he's just the life of the party thing about me is i'll get way sunburned than you also still very sunburned yeah it's a long-lasting burn for sure. You peeling? No, which is honestly worse.
I wish I was peeling already. Like, I still feel the pain.
I'm peeling. I'm peeling hard.
All right, Billy, you already had your Rogers one. Do you have your...
I mean, your guy did get arrested this week. Nah.
Okay. I was there.
You were? Nice. Because of witness history.
With your wolf costume?

Yeah.

No, I actually checked it out with Donnie.

The video's going to be on stool scenes.

Actually, Second Fire Fest almost had a Mark Wahlberg moment.

Yeah.

What happened?

So, wait.

Is this with minorities or is this with...

Oh, okay.

There was like a really sketchy...

There's a really sketchy...

There's a lot of Mark Wahlberg moments that you could say. Oh, yeah.
Actually, no, no. Mark Wahlberg 9-11 movement.
Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it. No, no, no.
There was like a really sketchy. There's a lot of Mark Wahlberg moments that you could say.
Oh, yeah. Actually, no, no.
Mark Wahlberg, 9-11 movement. Oh, got it, got it, got it.
No, no, no, no. There was a guy on the subway.
He had a face mask on and double gloves, leather gloves, and then under his gloves, plastic gloves, and he had a backpack. And this woman started freaking out on the subway and got into my car.
This is when we're going down to uh the arraignment and then basically this woman was yelling in another language about the guy in the mask and saying something about his backpack and we were like oh shit what the fuck and then we got out the train this guy came out on the train started like running kind of beside us to the arraignment place uh and then he starts reaching into his backpack turns out it was just a camera oh man yeah so you would have done something though you stopped him we were tweaking out you for sure would have done something the video comes out it's actually hilarious because you see us tweaking out and then donnie's like you can't just tackle a guy because he's a ski mask on yeah i. I love all the AI pictures that are coming out, though.
Spider, he had like a phone full of these AI pictures of Trump like working out in the prison yard, praying, reading the Bible in jail, trying to run from the cops. They were all fantastic.
I was loving all the fake pictures and content that was coming out from it. But it is, I was thinking about this when they announced that he had been arraigned or arrested or whatever it was.
I wouldn't mind being arrested the day after the NCAA tournament was over. That's like the perfect time to get arrested.
Yeah, just chill out. Just hang out.
Sentence me to four months. Get me back for the start of training camp.
Football's kicking in a high gear. I guess I could miss an NBA Finals.
But if you're going to get arrested, is really the time to do it it is you would never want to get arrested right before football season absolutely not that would suck yeah you're right you're right so anyone wants to get arrested go right now yep perfect time the purge chiefsaholic yeah perfect time did we find out what happened to him he's still on the loose oh shit for him good for him way to go with a million dollars on his head he's still on the loose. Oh, shit.
Good for him. Good for him.
Way to go, dude. With a million dollars on his head, he's still on the loose.
Damn. He's being protected by the people of Kansas City.
Love that. It's like Pablo Escobar.
Did you – you said that you were thinking about going down to try to find him. Yeah, I was thinking – I don't think anyone's going to – I don't know, like, am I on his side? Do I want to chase him? Like, I think if he makes it to Mexico, let him run free yeah yeah agreed okay let's wrap up the show we got the lottery ball hank have you ever gotten this no there's no way we're doing this yeah that's exactly what we're doing you joined for the end of the show i joined for mac jones no no we already read your comment we read your comment we decided that your typo was great that you just called mike florio fiction in general like he doesn't exist no yeah he's the greatest fiction writer in the 21st century no but we're saying like the the original text you sent me he's you it was like uh the greatest fiction mike florio and we thought that was perfect that you're just calling him in in his existence doesn't he does not exist that would also mean no then pft doesn't exist and that's that's a world i don't want to live't want to live in.
That's a slippery slope. I might not.
Honestly, I think about that sometimes. Hank, what do you think about the Celtics getting the two seed? He kind of blew the one seed there.
No, I don't think we blew the one seed. I think we had a chance to get it, but...
Yeah, he did. Yeah, but then you didn't get it.
It was a far cry, and I'm excited for the two seed. Okay.
All right. And I'm excited.

That's fine.

Two seed's great.

Sixers, Celtics would be apocalyptic on this show.

Agreed.

Okay.

All right.

Hank, have you ever gotten this?

No.

Okay.

Numbers.

16.

I'll go 17.

I'm not guessing.

I'll go 17.

I respect vacations.

No.

No, you're here.

Guess.

I'm not. All right.
Well, then just tell us what you would have guessed, no, you're here. Guess.
I'm not.

All right, well, then just tell us what you would have guessed,

and it won't count.

I'll take 17.

46.

He took 17.

He took 17.

All right, he would have guessed 46.

I'm going to go 64.

Okay, Max?

20.

Heems?

I'm going to pick one.

One, okay.

All right, so he would have guessed 46, but it doesn't count if he gets it. Oh, 77.
Damn. You guessed that recently, didn't you, Hank? I don't think so.
I think you did. I think you guessed 77 recently.
I don't think so. All right.
Well, have fun on vacation. You look great.
Know that even when you're not trying, you still can't get it. Yeah.
Sorry. I agreed to the tattoo, but I thought that was big of me.
But I guess, you know, nothing's ever good enough for you guys. Yeah.
Oh, you did? You officially agreed to the tattoo bed? We agreed to it. Yeah, I consented.
Okay. Yeah, exactly.
I can't even get a shout out. A tramp stamp of the lottery ball machine.
No, no, no, no. Yeah, tramp stamp.
Alright, neck tattoo. Everyone enjoy the Masters.
We'll see you on Monday. Hopefully we have a winner by then.
Love you guys. Love love you guys a rooster tilts its head back when it crows to prevent it going to death oh i plug in its ears here we go um 46 38 Don't keep it away 38.
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