Masters Preview With Max Homa And Shane Bacon, UConn Wins The Natty + Great Listener FAQ’s

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On today's Pardon My Take, UConn wins the national title. We put a bow on the 2023 NCAA tournament, talking about the national championship game, talking about the tournament in general.
also are turning the page we have master's preview for everyone look at that we're right away bang right on to the next one we have max homa for a little pump up getting his mind right for augusta this weekend and then we have shane bacon on to break down the entire field some long shots, some course changes. He's going to tell us all about the Masters.
And we finish with some FAQs. Just me and PFT on this show.
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Today is Wednesday, April 5th and the connecticut huskies are officially basketball royalty dan hurley has painted his masterpiece yukon is officially a blue blood now officially they have hemophilia welcome to the blue blood club that means that your ancestors were were doing some inc. Yes.
Dabbling in some sisterhood.

And your uncle might be a pedophile.

Well, that's okay in this circumstance.

Yes. Because you're basketball royalty.

You've made it.

You've joined all the other blue teams that are blue bloods.

Yes.

So I think they kick Villanova out, right?

And then they move.

Villanova's out.

Villanova's out.

UConn has won their fifth title in the last 24 years. UConn is also the only second team all time to win titles in four consecutive decades.
So they won in 99. They won 2004.
They won 2011-2014. And now they've won 2023.
So that's four four consecutive decades the only other team to do that north carolina so they are basketball royalty i don't know i know we have the debate about blue bloods all this stuff five in 24 years is insane and they've done it with three different head coaches three different head coaches shout out kevin ollie kevin ollie laid the foundation to build up uconn basketball kevin ollie is fredo yep it's it's it's uh i guess jim calhoun would be sunny and then dan hurley would be mike michael corleone which is perfect banners fly forever though yeah and i before we we dive further into this championship game um i just like to say thank you for being my friend yes jim nance with a sign off at the end goodbye thank you for being my friend he he's he claims that it was not a play on the hello friends he just thinks everybody's his friend that's just how he addresses people i'll say it i'm his friend and i enjoyed him uh on the podium after uh the was it the commissioner of the ncaa or someone from the ncaa who is he was getting a little too close to jim uh you know was it was a little weird whenever that guy whoever presents the trophy is always like it's a weird position to be in because like no one's there to see you dude and uh then jim nance tried to make dan hurley cry which he probably was grabbing his butt when he did that but it was it was a hell of a tournament run like we could talk about the full tournament in a minute but UConn what they did they beat every single team by double digits they uh were trailing in just 13 percent of their games total so six games they were trailing for 31 minutes of game time, 13%, and they were only trailing for 55 seconds of a second half. Crazy.
That's insane. They absolutely wasted everyone.
Their total average that they beat teams by was 20 points per game, and it was the fourth largest average win margin since the field expanded to 64 teams in 1985. And Dan Hurley, what he said couldn't have been more true when he's like, once we got out of the Big East play, we're a different team.
They ended up on the season 17-0 against non-conference opponents, and they beat all of those non-conference opponents by 10-plus points. Except San Diego State, kind of a Big East opponent.
Kind of. But we're not counting that.
But that run, like, I know people will talk about this tournament not living up to hype, which I totally disagree with. UConn was the story and their dominance and what they did, and Dan Hurley has arrived officially as a coach of a national title.
He feels like he's the next era, which I love, because Dan Hurley is like a throwback to the next era. He's got that scowl.
He's got that anger. He was Zen-like tonight because his team is that good.
He drinks piss. He drinks piss.
He drinks urine. He is the, you know what, PFT, the NCAA basketball.
It's in good hands with Dan Hurley. It really is.
I think that we can say maybe the Hurleys are the first family of basketball. Yeah, I would say so.
First family is part of my take right now. LeVar Ball.
The Ball family. The Ball family.
Maybe first family. But yeah, first family part of my take for sure right now.
What a run. Shout out to Jake for getting an exclusive with Coach Dan Hurley right after the game.
Dan Hurley definitely remembered the name of the podcast, part of my take. Did not require any nudging whatsoever from Jake.
He did it. But yeah, great story for him.
I'm happy for him because you could definitely make the case like, okay, going into this tournament saying nobody believed in UConn. I think a lot of people believed in UConn, but a lot of people never believed that Danny Hurley would ever reach this level and I mean yeah a lot of people believe in UConn they were four seed they were not the the team that everyone was looking towards everyone thought you know it was gonna be Alabama or Kansas back to back they were the like when the tourney started there were people who picked him but they definitely weren't the team that everyone was looking at being like this team is as dominant as they come but when you look at their season they were that team in november and december they had a little blip in january and then february march april they were that team again they were a very worthy national champion that the dominated dominated dominated play.
So another little fun stat here.

This one's from recurring guest John Rothstein.

Okay.

Dan Hurley, the carpenter.

Oh.

No, here's the real stat.

UConn is the first team in the history of the NCAA tournament to win six games by at

least 13 points.

Wow.

Just dominating everybody.

So better than the 2018 Villanova team.

Well, now it's time to ask the question, is this the greatest college basketball

team of all time? I think we should probably ask

that. What do you think, Max?

I think they're definitely

in the conversation, Max. Do you agree?

I think they have to face someone better than a three seed.

You play who you play. You play who you play.

Yeah, well, I mean... You play who you play.

They didn't play anybody the whole tournament.

They didn't play the Alabama. Yeah, they did.

They didn't play the Kansas. Yes, they did.
They played who they played. Yeah, well, Nova beat real teams.
Okay. And then also we should shout out Sonogo, who was outstanding.
He wins most outstanding player. I don't know why they don't call it just most valuable player, but his tournament run was insane.
He just dominated. Even tonight, there was a couple times when he was on the bench.

San Diego State sort of didn't go away, even though in retrospect,

they cut it to five with, I don't know, maybe six minutes left.

But every time they needed a big bucket,

it was either Jordan Hawkins or Sunogo coming through with that big moment,

big rebound.

He was just an absolute force.

And UConn's defense, which I talked about on Sunday's show, Monday's show, was just insane. Like every time their opponents got in the paint, they just had an answer for them.
And nothing was easy, and you could see it. I know San Diego State wasn't the best offensive team, but they were just getting absolutely stonewalled at every spot, and they were guarding at the three-point line, across half court.
Their defense got slept on because it was that dominant in this run. There was one play in particular.
I think it was Mensa on San Diego State, one of their bigs, tried to back down Snogo and tried to throw some bows at him, threw a hip and a shoulder into him, and it looked like a volkswagen beetle just driving into a brick wall he just like bounced off it and at that point you you know that's too much man you're going up against him do you know what it reminded me of i gotta try to find it real quick um the old uh member brian windhorse tweet about lebron in uh in 2017 every time someone has a play like that where it's like just pure strength it's stupid it's it's really like my life is too much about sports and just like sports memory flashbacks I found it so it was uh win horse in 2017 as far as LeBron recovering and not being injured he has more equipment in his home than most colleges and colleges, and he is so strong. That's what I think of.
I just think, like, when Sanogo did that, I just was in my head. I was just thinking of Brian Windhorst being like, and he is so strong.
Well, Sanogo throughout this tournament is probably the only person, not LeBron James, who has actually gained weight during basketball games. Yes.
Because he was playing. It's Ramadan.
He wasn't able to eat. Maybe he ate before the game.
I'm not sure what that was like, but for some games he was not able to eat before. Halftime, you know, what do you pound at halftime if you're Sunogo and you can't eat in the first half? I think it's simple.
Lemon, lime, Gatorade, and strawberry, Uncrustable. Maybe a banana.
Maybe a banana, yeah. One banana, strawberry uncrustable, maybe like a handful of almonds.
Yeah. That feels like, get a little salt.
Yeah, and he was so good tonight. He's just a big, meaty dude.
He's strong, and he is so strong. He's so strong.
Brian Windhorse. And he is so strong.
The only strategy that San Diego State had was step on their shoes. Yeah.
Give them flat tires and make it annoying to try to play defense with one sock. And it worked a little bit.
And I know, like, this game wasn't the best, but I really do think that watching it, you're like, this is way more about UConn just being so dominant defensively. They were that good.
They were that good. Tristan Newton was great.
They were just there. I mean, Joey Calcaterra, like that guy's got just springs on his legs.
Like he was just bouncing around Caravan. And shout out to Andrew Hurley, who played in all six tournament games.
That's how good UConn was, that Andrew Hurley got in all six tournament games. He's classy.
Classy. That's a class act.
That was classy. He's demonstrated so much class at the end of the game by not shooting.
I think Dan Hur actually told him you can see him like raise his hand up be like don't take that three don't take that three i know you want to i wanted to see i kind of wanted to see a moment that we could just furiously debate online because uh i realized that after after sunday the lsu uh angel what was her name angel angel reese reese uh and and Caitlin Clark issue. I was like, let's just have this on every game where we can just debate this for 24 hours.
It means nothing. It's stupid, but why not? Just someone, Andrew Hurley, jacket three right in their face.
Yeah, the game, you're right. It wasn't the best game.
The conversation maybe we should have about UConn. This is always a fun one.
Instead are they the best uh men's college basketball team of all time are they the greatest champion of all time because their play in this tournament I mean it was just dominant it was dominant I'd say that they are the greatest champion of all time uh by the way we have breaking news Jake is on the floor as we speak today's part of my tape guest Bobby Hurley so had you on today, your brother on last week. UConn undefeated since both of you have come on.
I mean, how do you feel? You had your moment, like you mentioned on the show, your dad had his moment, and you wanted your brother to have his moment. Now he has his.
How do you feel now? He's worked so hard for this moment. He's so deserving.
He's so talented at he does i i you know i had i saw this day coming for him i had a chance to work all right well jake's questions are just very um i am i am so disappointed in no not not be not because of of how like normal his questions are because that's jake baby yeah that's but that's jake will love him or hate him we love him yes but i'm disappointed that's the old time that's wild yeah and he didn't say this is wild. Yeah, that's Jake.
That's Jake. Love him or hate him.
We love him. Yes, but I'm disappointed.
That's

the old time. That's wild.
Yeah.

And he didn't say this is wild. Yeah.
His

brother was on the show. Then he

was on the show. Then his brother never lost

a game. That's fucking wild.
It

was only two games, but that is wild. It's wild

that that happened. But yeah, Jake's

doing a lot of like talk about. Yeah.

What's going through your head right now?

Jake is doing a great job of

getting every head ray allen he had dan hurley but here's my promise to the people uh next year pft and i are going to try to get credentialed for this because it feels like everyone gets credentialed so we're going to do our own interviews on the court tuxedos yeah and let's just hope st john's is in the final four yes holy shit i love i love coach patino i love class quick update by the way because we never shared it we might as well uh i've i've said this before but i have a stalker who texts me every now and then anytime we make a rick patino joke um he popped back up this past week when rick patino went to st johns and was threatening pft this time uh and then he said that he was in houston and gave us a meetup time uh didn't show he said he was with rick patino obviously we're getting fucked with but it's good it's good to wake up and be like yeah my stock are still coming after me yeah and and we're listen we're ready rick we like rick patino i like rick patino we want him on the show he's a fantastic coach we we rooting for saint john's um All right, so Jake is on the floor getting all these interviews. Great job by Jake.
We should say that, like, obviously the game, not that entertaining. It was the story of fouls in the second half.
Yes. UConn got into the bonus super early, so they had a bunch of 90-foot fouls where they get fouled underneath their own basket, and then everybody walks calmly to the end of the court, and then they make both free throws, and you can't come back from that if you're san diego state i was talking to titus about it as it was happening like well the rest of this game the last 10 minutes are just going to be nothing but free throws and uh he made the point that that was probably san diego state's strategy was to foul like be very physical with uconn and just hope that the refs don't call it every time yeah the refs calleds called it every time.
Every time. And it was, I don't think it was a poorly officiated game.
It was overly officiated, maybe you could say. The second half felt like that.
But the fouls, I think, were legit fouls for the most part. Yes.
Yes. And, you know, so let's talk about the full tournament because I do think there's been this weird narrative that this tournament sucked.

I think it's a lot of people who didn't watch the tournament.

Who just don't like college basketball.

Which is fine.

You know, respect to those people that didn't watch it.

And they're like, this sucks.

Yeah, right.

And there are some media members who literally just didn't watch it.

And they're like, there's no good storylines.

That's how a lot of people are with the Live Tour.

Which is golf but louder.

But nobody watches it. Nobody watches it.

I think this was. So the final four, I think i think we got obviously last year we got spoiled with the duke unc in kansas and villanova although in retrospect only three blue bloods yeah that we thought at the time but we were young and foolish max you want to say anything max is just shaking his head no i don't have anything to say other than fuck off.
Okay. You know, Max has had a long day when the hair is down.
Max has been drunk and sober like four times today. No, I was just drunk and then sober.
It was just one time. I'm so sunburned right now.
Oh, I thought. Oh, oh.
That's interesting because when I saw Max in the pool and he looked, he was drinking like a red and white. was it it was miami it was my advice i was like max you look like your drink right now you're so sunburned he goes i'm fucking italian i don't sunburn yeah i didn't say that uh yes you did what to be fair what to be fair i mean we this was a long trip we worked hard this yeah today was our today was our off day no i anything about that.
I was saying that it was- You didn't take a bath, but you did a good job. You told me that you don't get sunburned, and now you're saying I'm so fucking sunburned.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, everyone needs a base sunburn for the summer.
It's getting a little early this year. Out on the golf course today, Max and Memes were just looking at each other, and they were both a little drunk from the day.
And Memes was like, am I really red? Yeah. And Memes was really red.
And Max looked at him, and Max was like super bright red. He was like, no, dude, you're not that red.
You're good. And Memes was like, yeah, you're not that red either.
No, you guys deserve to be off. We're both just normal guys.
Yeah, and we are. People are probably like, what the hell are they talking about? We are recording right after the game, so it's Monday night because we have a full travel day.
We're in Louisiana, so we have to drive two hours and then fly back to New York. So if anything crazy happens on Tuesday in the sports world, we will update it Tuesday night.
Otherwise, you're just listening to the raw dog right after the game. Reactions.
Brain dump. So the tournament, I think we had it all.
I know that there wasn't the one seeds in the final four, all that, but we had an all-time upset with Fairleigh Dickinson. Princeton just gets completely erased from history because of Fairleigh Dickinson.
They went to the Sweet 16 as a 15 seed. You had an all-time tournament personal run by Marquise Noel, which was like, if you didn't watch the tournament marquise noel dominated the second weekend his performances at madison square garden were out of this world like appointment television you had five eight confirmed by the way five eight we got to interview him on barstool live him and i exact same size five eight you had you had i mean firman uh winning against virginia there's a bunch of upsets, whatever.
And then you had Final Four, three insane runs of schools that had never been to the Final Four in Miami, FAU, and San Diego State. And then you had UConn, the dominant team that steamrolled the entire tournament to kind of put a cherry on top with some incredible players, an incredible coach.
I don't know. This tournament delivered.
It always delivers. It's the fucking March Madness Tour.
I love this tournament so much. And we had the first buzzer beater coming from behind in the Final Four to win a game in San Diego State FAU.
There was a lot of stuff. I mean, there were tons of upsets.
People say that they like upsets. They like underdogs.
Well, guess what? Go out back and smoke an entire pack of underdogs. Yeah.
Because this delivered in spades. It didn't have the brand names, which some people don't like.
You always hear people say like, Oh, I like the underdogs. I like it when they win early opening rounds.
But then after that, you want the big name schools. That's fun sometimes, but this was, it was very cool to see all these schools that never thought that they'd have a chance to win a single game advanced throughout the tournament and a lot of them make it very very far it's like unprecedented levels so i liked it i i enjoyed the tournament and at the end of the day you got the champion that was most deserving like uconn 17 and 0 non-conference 10 plus points every single opponent they were phenomenal like that's the thing is I understand that the thought process of the underdogs getting really you know deep into the tournament ruins it later but that's also part of like you don't want to have a weird outcome where it feels like the best team the best team won UConn was the best team this year they deserve the the title I I'm giving this tournament maybe it wasn't a plus but i actually don't think any tournament could be less than an a so i'm giving it an a i'm giving it five balls okay there we go so like again it's just some people and it's fine some people like to talk about nba all year or they want to talk about i don't know what what other sports or mlb.
MLB just started. Yeah, sure.
March is for the NCAA tournament, and it always delivers. Yeah, well, I mean, you just said March.
My only gripe is that March should have 35 days. The NCAA tournament should end in March.
It should. It's tough because I consider this an all-time March moment for UConn.
Although, I like that it finishes in April because I can be like, well well march was a pretty bad gambling month but april fucking rock we're up we're all yeah we're on a live separate i don't i don't think that there's ever been a live stream in the history of this company where everybody won their best great it does it felt it feels good to win one you know and i know i know those sickos and perverts sorry got a five point game with six minutes left they're like this is going to be an all-time loss for yukon and big cat's gonna cry on a stream and i would have cried i would have cried but you didn't get it not this time not this time you know why because i didn't have that loser max attached to me and that's how you take one across the finish line so i do have a my hot seat is max i'll just I'll just jump ahead. Well, yeah, let me do it in the ad and we'll get into hot seat.
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PFT, Hasi Cultural. My hot seat is Max.
Oh. Max is on the hot seat, not just for all the reasons that we've said above, where how Villanova has been removed from the Blue Bloods and UConn is in, but also because Max bet against UConn every single game of this tournament.
You did? Yeah.

Yes.

He bet San Diego State money line.

What?

And San Diego State against the spread.

No, Max.

Yeah.

Dan Hurley, best coach in the Big East.

Max, you just.

I mean, I'm not going to argue who Kyle Neptune is.

You just got no hit.

You got no hit?

Yeah.

I had no hits on UConn.

Yeah.

You got no hit. That's a no hitter yeah yeah that's no hitter that's no hitter i guess dude that's at any point were you like yukon might actually be good no i knew the entire time that yukon was good but it against it was against my but see what shouldn't you have been like hey they're really good might as well win money the whole the whole moral hedge thing is a bunch of bullshit like it's not an no but when they're that good i know honestly i told you this i told you this earlier that i if i didn't pick ucla i would have picked uconn because everyone was sending me those stats of like only these five teams can make it and they UConn had the best odds but I couldn't get myself to pull for UConn that was the number one that was yeah you could have won like 20 grand tonight I respect that though I that Max is a real fit Max is a good sports town yeah good job, Max.
Cool throne, Storrs, Connecticut. Yeah.

Student athletes win a national championship game,

and then the entire town just starts picking up light poles and smashing indoor windows.

And flipping cars, yeah.

Flipping cars.

Rules.

What a great way to celebrate a victory.

Got to be the coolest thing to win a title when you're a student at a school.

In college, yeah.

Yeah, I can attest.

I can attest that, too.

Non-commuters. I still was on campus for the game.
i didn't have any friends on campus but i was there jmu division one double a national championships 2004 there you go you can forget uh my yeah wisconsin they won 2006 frozen four huge that's so sick for you um my cool throne my cool throne is dogecoin oh yeah dogecoin spiked today uh because elon put the doge dog on the home screen of twitter whenever you loaded it up last night uh i responsibly ran out of money in my barstool sportsbook account and i had been holding doge hodling yeah hodling i've been hodling diamond hands i've had diamond hands i was waiting to go to the moon patiently and uh i've had it for like three years it increased in value it dipped way back down and then i was just hodling it and i liquidated my doge account last night all your assets all my assets in doge i liquidated so that i could put money into my account to bet on the tournament and then seven hours later yeah elon changes the fucking home screen of twitter to doge the doge dog and then the stock shoots up a hundred percent that's fucking horseshit you got you got your your doge coin got doink bet i did it was a doink it was a doink all over again i got double doink i couldn't believe it when i went on twitter this morning i was like what is this and then i realized what it was and then i saw all the people being like doge is ripping it was yeah oh no pft sold it was on the moon although spin zone i made more money betting on this game than I would have. There you go.
I more than doubled my money. You need that.
Because I hit everything tonight. Yeah.
So, in your face, Elon, I'm not paying for that blue check. Yeah.
Unless. Well, we might.
Maybe. Well, now that Jake's not in the room, we might.
If you can hide my likes on certain tweets, I'll pay for that. You horny tab yeah yeah exactly i'll do it then um but and yeah hank needs remember hank nah no no no we did tape lottery ball which we shouldn't have because uh he's not on this episode he's on vacation we have certain we have certain conversations offline on this podcast that stay offline yeah right exactly but we did tape the uh lottery ball so that will will still happen with hank at the end uh okay my hot seat i have two number one uh jill biden so jill biden say jill or joe jill jill biden dr jill dr jill biden invited lsu and i to the White House.
That's fucking bullshit. You can't do that.
That's fucked up. You cannot do that.
That's fucked up. Iowa lost.
They lost. Has this ever happened before? You know what that is? Classless move.
It's playing both sides. It's classless move.
It is classless. It's classless move.
You can't do that. If I were LSU, I'd be like, fuck you.

I'm not coming now.

No, then because then actually I would probably show up.

But either way, learn how fucking sports work.

I feel like this entire LSU-Iowa game just had to – it like shook everyone

where everyone forgot how sports work for a minute,

where they're talking about classy, classless, can't shit talk.

Yes, you can.

You shit talk. You run up the score.
you point to your finger when you win a ring you do the john cena and then you get invited to the white house and the team that lost doesn't get invited to the white house that's how sports work i agree with that a million percent it's it doesn't happen in other sports no nor should it happen in other sports yeah bullshit you know what it is jill dr joe biden you're not uh treating them as equals as men you're because i don't see them i don't i don't think san diego state's getting invite you're almost just protecting them yeah bullshit bullshit i don't know what i'm gonna i'm gonna have to explain this all to my daughter it's gonna be terrible would you would you ever go to the white house after losing something no i think max would just live in washington dc if that were the case all right my other hot seat uh my other hot seat is uh anyone who owns dalmatians because vince mcmahon looks like he's about to steal 100 dalmatians he unveiled his new look today he made i think he made like five billion dollars so wwe got sold to uh endeavor which aria manual they already own ufc vince mcmahon sold 51 he's still going to be part of the wwe still going to like make moves he's still going to be the boss but he made made, I think it was somewhere like $4 or $5 billion personally. The company was rumored to sell for $9 billion.
Right. So he made so much money today.
He bought the WWE from his father for $1 million in 1982. So pretty good return on investment.
But he went and did the rounds on all the shows. And he has this thin mustache above his lip that makes him look like like vince mcmahon already is the evil boss he just took it to a different level i mean the man is a showman and if you're going to be accused of being a pervert left and right and all these people come out and say all these weird things about you yeah and uh how you're a creepy old dude of course vince mcmahon is going to lean into that costume and grow a tiny little mustache yes that's like that's day one playbook stuff for him in wwe so he's he's fucking rich now huh uh very very rich what is vince mcmahon i i don't think money really matters to vince he's just going to use that money to just make more wrestling yeah it's all it's all going back he's probably they're keeping him around right yeah no he's he's he's going to be i think his official title let me find this um i was reading this article a minute ago i think his official title is still like director of wwe or so oh executive chairman well so he's gonna he's gonna be still be the executive chairman you know that old saying like if you have money you just more of what you were before.
Like, if you gave me $9 billion, I would just buy a shitload of soup. Yeah.
If you give a creepy old man $9 billion, he's going to become a super creepy old man with a child molester mustache. Yes.
The pencil thin mustache. It was quite a look.
Quite a look. Also, shout out Shane O'Mac.
I think he tore his ACL.l yeah he battled through it all time tribe yeah i don't know where wherever joey abs or uh yeah joey abs and pete gas are right now i wish they had come out and saved him but yeah he was at wrestlemania he he he was doing his thing and uh tore his acl tried to stand up flop back down snoop dog had to save him but yeah that was you know win some lose that's such a classic wwe recap snoop dog came out yes oh yeah of course yeah of course he did it's got to kind of suck because shayne o'mack probably made a shitload of money today too but he's he's like got crutches i would kind of love that i wouldn't want to win money like that uh that's like the ultimate bonus it's like not only are we giving you a couple hundred million dollars but also a doctor's orders you're not allowed to exercise but i always i always feel so bad it's like when you win like a title and a guy gets injured in the game it's all i always feel so bad that they can't party like fully because they got like a boot on or they got like their arm in a sling. Yeah, but if somebody told me congratulations, 100 million dollars, don't try to work out.
And also here's a couple of Vicodin. Yeah, true.
But like Odell Beckham, like that had to suck. You know, he wanted to go crazy when the Rams won.
Oh, I'm sure that that didn't completely stop Odell Beckham. He wants 15 million dollars.
In real money Or like he handed out the fake money that he handed out to LSU?

He wants $15 million.

That's the word on the street.

So do I.

My cool throne is the Detroit Tigers.

They are the last team to get their first win of the MLB season.

So they beat the Astros tonight.

And congratulations to the Detroit Tigers.

The last team to get their first win.

Every other team has a win.

So congrats to the Tigers. Haveavier Baez.
This is bullshit. What? The Phillies do not have a win yet.
What? You got no wind? No, dude. I don't know how this ended up being a podcast about me.
Dude, are you serious? I didn't know that. You want to cut this part? Yeah, I can do whatever the fuck I want.
Wait, the Phillies don't have any wins? It's four games into the season. Who cares? But every other team has a win.
Who cares? Yeah, but you got Hoskins coming back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You already did this. You already did this bit, Juan.
I was watching the Tigers. They had an an extra inning game against the Astros and since we're in Louisiana the Astros are technically the home team so uh I was watching out of the corner of my eye during the national title being like I hope the Tigers win so I could do exactly this on the podcast I'd like to give another shout out just specifically to Louisiana yeah best place in the world The best I have one more thing to say Fuck ESPN The Phillies played on Sunday Night Baseball yesterday And for whatever reason They made the most detailed graphic of all time Just being like Hey by the way Did you know that Philly has just come in second In every single thing this year And I was like Watch Sunday Night Baseball And I was like Watch Sunday Night night baseball tonight what the fuck does the union losing the mls have to do with sunday night baseball philly's rangers a lot is nothing a lot it was just i it was just so people could just fucking tweet at me the graphic and be like hey hey max did you see this you see this philly loses every championship i know i know they lose okay sixers will definitely win max you should actually be thanking uh that hank exists because hank's not here so you're getting all of our jokes i love that i love that for hank so wait the phillies really don't have a win no the phillies do not have a win i don't but isn't the wasn't opening day like it feels like 10 years ago because we've been on the road for a while i I feel like we were in Austin 50 years ago.
Yeah, I mean, all of March is just, I just miss my kids. I just want to go home.
I miss my bed. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that too. Yeah.
I miss my dog. Coming home to your bed is so nice.
Yeah, we're going to get home. We're going to do it.
Bring the boys home. Bring the boys home.
Let's do it. Sorry that the Phillies don't have a win.
I didn't know that before I said that. Yeah, I know.
You're really upset about it. All right.
Let's guess what? We have Masters Talk. It is what a great turnaround.
The sports gods really do it correctly with the tournament, like the most intense month in the sports calendar. And then they're just like, here's a really nice nice easy thing to watch for the entire weekend you can sit on your couch i'm a little worried about the weather by the way nothing nothing bums me out more than masters being bad weather well so if it rains early in the week that's good right no but it's if it rains early in the week that means that the course is ready to get fucked there's a chance we might have a monday masters finish which would kind of rule you remember when the u.s open had that monday finish a while back yeah rock immediate tiger woods 18 hole playoff an extra round of just tiger woods nobody got any work done oh by the way all the freaks out there online all the economy watchers that keep reminding people how much money is stolen via time theft of people at work not paying attention to work and watching sports on TV.
Go fuck yourself. Also, yeah, go fuck yourself.
Because it's labor month. We get a month to steal all that time back.
Yeah. Don't you realize that America does it the right way? We're not like one of these fancy European countries that takes all the summer off.
We work single day 365 days a year uh morning noon and night and then when we go to work we take no vacations and when we go to work we just don't work yeah it's a perfect system unless you're Hank Lockwood yeah but that is Hank's very European listen this is America baby vacations are frowned upon you know when you take my vacation? Every fucking day when I go to work and I fuck off. That's what you do.
Someone listening to this right now is nodding their head. They're like, I'm at work right now.
Maybe they're watching on the YouTube. They're like, guess what I'm doing? Not working.
Remaster the art of getting paid to not work. Right.
Exactly. I think I said it a couple weeks ago.
was like the the worst thing you could have your boss ever figure out is that you could do all of your work in like four hours because you could but never tell your boss that and also don't do that just do little bits and pieces of work like a squirrel hiding nuts before the winter if there's somebody that does six hours of work while at work you're're working way too hard. Chill out.
Chill out. You're making all of us look bad.
Overachiever. All right.
Masters weather real quick before we get to our preview. 74% chance of rain on Friday.
91% chance of rain on Saturday. 74% chance of rain on Sunday.
Play the Masters in a dome. This is bad.
This is really bad. I don't...
It just bums me out. The birds aren't going to be out.
How is this going to affect the azaleas? That's what I want to know. We need to...
Yeah, we need to just stop weather for a week. All right, so we do have Masters preview.
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All right, here he is, our good friend, Max Homa.

Okay, it is masters week and we thought we'd have on one of our favorite guests max homa before augusta um this is not an interview this is a uh just guys pumping each other up session we're just getting ready for Augusta. It's the biggest tournament of our lives, and I say that meaning all three of us here.
Hank's not in the room. He doesn't like you, and neither is Max.
He's probably getting a – I think he's at a doctor's appointment. That probably won't go well for him.
So how are we feeling mentally, Max? Good. Do you think Max or Batgirl's blood pressure is going to come back just on the high side? Because I would assume it's going to be an alarming visit.
I would say it's probably a good bet. Is there any professional golfer that is expected to win who's from the Philadelphia area? Because we need to get Max on a Philly guy.
Man, I can't think of – I know Harry Higgs, but I don't think he's in yet. I can't think anybody, so hopefully Max's heartbreak will slow down.
That was a funny – that was a funny – I only saw the clip, or I only saw the meme where it just said Max is going to suck. Yeah.
And I was like, damn, that was mean. And then I listened to the first like 20 30 minutes i'm like oh this guy's this guy's in it right now he was rock bottom he said it out of rage at himself really like out of self-loathing he was really saying when he was his way of telling himself that he sucked but he was just projecting it onto you yes i was positive he said i fucking did it i did it let me feel like it hit the three i'm still pretty sure that's what he said i am too he's just he's just a ball of just sad energy that screams and everything so all right uh we are taping this a week before augusta what are you gonna say jake rocco immediate who's known for being in second to tigers from pennsylvania okay all right so ro Rocco is going to be the best.
That's like the most famous second place finish ever, right?

Let's go Rocco.

Yeah, Rocco.

Yeah, you can see him saying that.

Yeah, that's definitely Max.

All right, so where's the mental app?

Because we've obviously had you on before the Masters before,

the famous time when I was like, can you win this?

And you were like, I think. I think you can win this now like i am confident i feel good do you feel the same way or are we all on the same wavelength uh yeah we are on the same wavelength i'd say uh obviously this is uh the best standing i've had going into any major let alone just augusta um so i think you, as much as sports are just about who's the best at what they do, golf, obviously, you have to peak at the right time and you have to, you know, your game has to show up at the right time.
So I just say that going into it, that just seems like the only thing. I mean, I like what I've been doing.
I like where my game feels. I like where my head's at, but handling the pressure and doing all that will be different.
Having expectation will be a bit different, but I mean, I really do like my chances. I like the golf course.
I haven't had much success on it yet, but I just feel like I go in there and put a bunch of excessive pressure on myself just to play uh i i would be lying if i didn't say that last year i was really prominently thinking about making the cut for the first time there uh so this year the goals are set a lot higher but um everything's kind of lining up well and so i do feel good um i feel the best i probably could feel going into a major. So I got that going for me.

I know I have Batgirl's cold streak running,

but at some point that has to turn around even for that psycho.

No, it's good because he's rooting against you now.

Well, he is going to have money on you.

He's the one person that you want cheering against you the hardest.

True.

Because he can't win anything.

That's a fair point.

So you've made a very good enemy to have.

You're dialed right now.

Is it fair to say you're dialed? I've heard people say that. I've been playing a lot of PGA Tour 2K video games.
And they say, oh, yeah, yeah. We actually need to talk about Hank.
So the Hank clip of him trying to get out of the bunker. Which one? He's at Augusta.
He's trying to get out of the bunker. He's chipping downhill.
He's shooting like, I don't even know what you call it, like a 12 bogey on a hole. You told me that.
We call that a Hank. We call it a Hank on tour.
You told me that the fellas were laughing at it. Were you showing it to other golfers and everybody was just having a good laugh at Hank? We were on the range in Austin.
It was for the video. It wasn't the bunker one, which I saw yesterday.
It was the one where he hits, he puts it off the green on nine. And then you say bite and we all lost it.
So I saw it in the morning and then I was showing Joe and I was showing my buddy Edward and some of the other players. And I mean, as funny as the video is, you guys laughing.
Like I don't, PFT, like I know you, I know you're,'re you know part uh character uh obviously unless your name really is pft uh but you so you guys laughed a lot we listened to you guys laugh a lot on this show but every once in a while we'll get like a true genuine laugh like when max was going through it last week you had the funniest laugh ever because neither of you guys could stop fucking giggling and we were all laughing at that by the end of it so then i see hank's bunker video uh yesterday uh i saw that one last night and i've just never seen i mean i just don't understand i just don't get it like i don't get i don't get how it's that hard maybe i need to try playing it but man that shit is fucking shit is fucking hilarious. The game's not that hard.
You're right. Frustrated Hank is a top character because he gets so angry.
He gets so quiet. Yeah.
Yeah, he just – because I can see it in my face. Like, I can see it in my head.
He just has his tongue out, and he's focusing so hard. He does his face where he has his tongue, like, halfway out, and he's like, and he talks the bullshit of anybody.
And the second something goes sideways for him, he just shuts up and he pretends that his mic doesn't work, that he's accidentally muted. And then he'll come back two holes.
He's so bad at that game. Yes.
Usually you go to play video games to kind of get away from, you know, all the frustration. But he plays golf and and then goes straight to struggle at augustin national yes yes all right so um speaking of the course we're big course guys what's the one or two holes that we should be looking out for this year that you're like you have circled like hey i gotta i gotta have a good strategy here so we know what to watch when we're when we're watching all weekend well i'll lead with i know you guys are big fans of uh you know the course winning and i i saw a lot of rain next week so you guys might have a tough week there i think it'll be soft so uh might be a lot of birdies uh big hole uh i think 13 always plays they changed it a little bit this year but that one always seems to be really important 13 and 15 on the back nine and then on the front uh four and five are the two hardest holes um on the front nine so those two i think when you see people play those two well uh you'll see somebody who's probably going to have a good chance usually you see a lot of birdies on the back nine and the front nine if you shoot anywhere between even two, three under, that usually sets you up for a great day.
But I mean, the whole golf course is pretty damn awesome. PFT, you know, you play it all the time.
I do. It's a pretty great golf course.
So there's a lot of holes I could say, but those, those seem to stick out. Well, I usually only play the first nine holes because Hank quits after nine.
So I don't know what the, I don't know what the second nine is like. Did you just call out the course? It sounded like you just called out the course.
I'm coming for birdies. I'm coming for blood.
Someone's got to puff their chest out to it at some point. You just said that there's going to be some low scores out there.
I like it. I think there might be.
When are we going to know what the course is going to be like, if it's going to show its teeth or not? Is it during the – you specifically, during the par three competition, are you going to – That's usually a telling sign, yeah, because I'm going for it this year. You see two, three holes in one, you know the course is getting a little nervous.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, so what's our plan? You don't know your pairings yet. What's our plan if they do pair you with Tiger? Are we going to have a better plan than the British Open when you melt it into a puddle? We've got to stay mentally strong.
So, yeah, if I play with Tiger, I think we can use the Open. I forget what you call it, a pool of tears or something.
Yeah, you're melting. You're melting.
You're like, oh, this guy, I love him so much. Oh, I don't even know how to shoot my own golf shots.
Yeah, shooting him wrong. Yeah, I think it'll go a lot better.
And that would be wild to play with them in backsmack major, so I doubt that would happen. But I think I'll be, you know, I got it out of my system.
I got the tears out of my system. The Kleenex has been removed from the bag.
I think I'm pretty, I'm pretty ready for that again. Okay.
And now who would you like to be paired with? Like who, if we, they get paired, if you get paired with them, everyone's going to be like, all right, Max, this is, you play well with this person. Oh, who I play well with.
I think I'd like to play with Justin Thomas. I think that'd be a good one.
Okay. I do think, like, the live thing's going to be funny because, like, I feel like anybody who's playing with, you know, Phil or Cameron Smith or DJ or Brooks, it's just going to be, like, none of us really have any bad blood, but they've, like, made the, like, you know, fans or whatever have made it out to be it out to be like we it's gonna be so awkward uh so I think that would be quite funny just to see the reaction I'm sure I'll get a lot of texts like oh man you know do you think you guys are gonna talk today and uh like yeah you know it's really not as big of a deal yeah I think that would be fun but yeah I think playing with Justin Thomas I usually play quite well with him and so I think that would be fun.
But, yeah, I think playing with Justin Thomas, I usually play quite well with him.

So I think that would be a good sign that the powers that be at Augusta

are looking out for me.

So something like that.

Max, just a pointer.

They're called patrons at Augusta, not fans.

Oh, patrons.

Yeah, but I mean fans, fans, like, you know, that'll be on the Internet.

Patrons at the golf course who are not allowed their phones

probably won't be tweeting me or else by penalty of death yes yes yes uh let's also just say right now for any awls that are lucky enough to get to augusta which i would say this is probably the one tournament you won't get called a pervert a lot because i'm looking forward to that our fan base probably can't afford it um we we've never been to to Augusta. We just sit on the outside while all the rich people get to go to Augusta.
But let's just say if there are any AWOs that are there, maybe just a positive like, hey, Max, you're doing great. Just you're doing great.
That would be. Yeah, keep going.
That'd be great. So I've been wrestling with this.
I've been talking to Lacey about this. Uh, she's like, man, I really hate that.
They call you pervert. And I said, yeah, me too.
But I was like, you can't say like, stop calling me that. Cause we learned in second grade that you can't do that.
So, so I will say this. I'm really excited for a week of peace because that has become has become, I don't know how this works

as I'm only a one-time

Takey Award winner.

But I'm hoping that

whoever wins it this year

will take that crown

and everyone will forget.

I think that would be quite nice.

But I would say that

to any AWS that are there

at Augusta National,

I would recommend

not calling me a pervert there because I don't think it's going to be received super well correct yeah correct i do there was a guy who got kicked out i heard at uh the players championship because security said you got to stop saying that i guess he said it again and it was kind of it was kind of internet in real life because you know i'm sure he was complaining like it's it's a joke from a podcast and the lady's like i don't fucking care right right at the end of the day i don't listen to that so i don't know what you're talking about you're still calling him a pervert yeah yes people seem to miss that like you'll hear a couple of snickers when someone says it and then a lot of people be like hey man like chill yeah thank you like this is real life yes yeah no i'm on i'm on your side on that one that one. Like, yeah, we can't say, like, do not call him a pervert.
But you will be kicked out of Augusta if you say that to him. And we want you there cheering on Max for the long weekend and well into Sunday afternoon.
We should start. Yeah, we should just start.
Instead of calling Max a pervert, just say he's Italian. Everyone will know what you're saying.
Yeah, just say Forza. Yeah.
Exactly. Yeah.
Yeah, maybe after you hit a good tee shot, be like, that's a spicy meatball. See, this shit, that's fucking funny.
The other one isn't. Yeah, okay.
So we can work with that. We can work with that.
All right. So I really hope that they, I forgot the whole live angle.
Like I hope they, they put like a Phil with, with Rory or Phil with tiger would be so great. Oh my God.
Sergio Rory and tiger Phil are two that I just think would be that, that would be a spicy meatball right there. That would be, that would be a chef'sian hand yeah that would be really good yes uh max i don't know if i need to call you out but the internet at large called you out are you are you a slow player now oh i'm glad this is up um no that video is 52 seconds we get 45 seconds to hit a shot so that was too slow uh i understand it looks way shittier than when you walk around uh but i went i wanted to check because i've always thought of myself as quite uh quite a fast player uh and so i went like we we can look up how like our average uh time or whatever so i looked it up and i am not slow so that may feel good but it was also that was like a understanding of the internet, one clip of one putt, and that's just the way the world works now.
Yeah, you know what it was. I'll wear it, but at least I found out that I am not.
In this one clip that's going around, it's max putting. You're reading a putt from both sides of it, and the cinematography on the clip is just incredible.
It was very good. It makes it seem way longer than it is because it cuts to you, it cuts away, back to you, and you're in like a different position the second time they come back.
And then there's a guy waiting on a bridge for you to finish putting. And then the camera cuts back to you and you're still reading the putt.
So like, yes, as the stopwatch goes, it wasn't exceptionally slow, but I heard rumors out there that you were apologizing for your pace of play and i want to see where we were at with that i under as a fan of golf i understand that it looks like shit so i would like it to be uh faster i i didn't really put two and two together that the clip was that short so after i apologize i realized it wasn't that bad but i will say this shout out to the producer and the cameraman they must have been loving that like back back to the guy's plane who's about to jump in the leg all right back to max standing a different direction all right back to that guy looks like he's crying okay back he's he's mad at max see if he's got a knife like that guy was he he went from like a sports uh you know producer to like a daytime emmy producer so quickly and i was pretty impressed with how how that all laid out i was i was uh i was a fan of that video. Yeah, I don't want you to change anything about your game right now.
You're in the zone, Max. Yeah, I was.
Sorry. We're fully gassing you up.
We are 100% homosexuals going into the Masters. Don't watch any YouTube videos about your swing.
I did that and it fucked me up. Yeah, no, I've learned from your mistakes um i i wonder i was listening to uh some of you guys had on last sometime last week uh about your your theory uh which is accurate to golf that uh if you don't like your score you just make the score you want it to be and write that down yeah um so i'm wondering yeah wondering no not it's not a theory it's fact i wonder if

august is removing the erasers essentially to forbid this kind of activity uh because that would be a pretty easy way to win the masters i feel like i was doing some some studying and i feel like that wasn't i mean i've been working on shipping and hitting but i have not really thought about pencil whipping too much and that seemed like not a bad idea this is the shit that I wish golfers, I know that there's rules and they don't want to be, you know,

kidding. I have not really thought about pencil whipping too much, and that seemed like not a bad idea.
This is the shit that I wish golfers – I know that there's rules and they don't want to be getting in trouble, but if you maybe get an injury on the course and you're going to withdraw anyway, just put like a 62 and have them ding you and then just walk off. There is a story.
This girl got in trouble in college, but she – so back in college, now we have a guy who walks with us uh and puts in our score each hold like update you know obviously for uh fans uh patrons if you will uh and like the it's big on like gambling obviously in college it's a lot different just your parents uh watching the scores online but every three holes you tell there's a volunteer standing on the green and you say hey I went like four three four and uh they type that in or whatever so she decided she was gonna fuck with everybody at regionals which is a big event and uh so she told the person I just went two three two I went one three three so she's like nine under through nine and everyone's wigging out and she realizes halfway through this a problem because, you know, the other coaches are also looking at these scores to see what place their team is and all that stuff. So she started going like eight, five, five, five, seven, four, like trying to even it back out.
And I think she might have got like suspended because like completely fucked with like the nature of the golf tournament. So I've always thought about maybe if my walking score was ever just in a silly, goofy mood, if they were like, you know what, fuck it.
Hole in one on number eight, the par five. That was the greatest shot in the history of the world.
Max Homa is now leading the Masters. Yeah, wait, wait.
So this guy, that's a great story. That woman has a great sense of humor.
Oh, yeah. So the person walking with you doing the score, do you ever catch them doing like the classic, like standing at the green being like, all right, one and then two.
And then like, you know, like every guy's had that moment. Wait, did I hit another one there? Like you ever see him like trying to actually do it in his head? So I think what they do is they have a piece of paper or something like that.
And they write like a tally by because they have to do three people someday so that would be tricky right and they do a tally and i've always wanted to see you know like heaven now one time made a 16 on a hole um you know people have made like 14s and 15s and like i always want to see that tally line this guy just scrambling to fucking like how like yeah he's like literally doing math to try to figure out what what score to type in uh but yeah i've never seen the finger counting but i will uh now i'll keep my eye out for it okay all right so max i have two last things one is you need to um just stare into your son's eyes before you start on thursday so like long stare this is what i'm doing it for perspective a little tears. That's fine.
Just get the full soak in the perspective. Okay.
Soak in it. It's funny you say that because my now five month old son told me just two days ago that he said, he said, these are his words, not mine.
He said, daddy, I believe you're going to win the masters and you're going to shove it right in batgirl's face yeah he said those words yeah it was pretty awesome considering that he hadn't spoken any words before and he just strung along such an eloquent sentence did he i he did he also say i thought i saw it on twitter that he also said uh hey daddy is it true that uh the night i was conceived you were being a real pervert i didn't know he had a twitter account It was probably a burner, so I'm going to need to go check his phone. But I wouldn't put it past him.
The way he's been speaking to me, I would not put it past him. Okay, all right.
Then my last question is, what do you think about your Dodgers this year? You know, it's odd. I mean, this is like total fandom, but it's odd.
I odd. I feel like every other year when we like spent a, just a zillion dollars, there was so much pressure to, to win the world series or bust.
And, uh, this year I almost feel like maybe that will be the key to us winning the world series again, not, uh, don't put an asterisk. Okay.
Well, yeah, but winning it again. Uh, so it'll be a fun season it's actually quite fun because everybody you know for the last eight or nine years has like in the division like all my friends from uh southern southern california uh will be like oh my god you guys just spend so much fucking money oh my god and now like the padres have just decided that you know their credit cards work and they're just shelling out cash so now now i'm just like have fun this year if you guys don't fucking win it's a complete and utter loss so i've had to deal with that for the last decade so enjoy that so i look forward to hopefully the padres flaming out and the dodgers somehow backdooring it but i i'm with you i think last podcast podcast you guys talked about something about how like, yeah, fandom is rooting for your team and hoping they win.
But it's almost more fun when the teams you hate suck. So if the Dodgers do, in fact, not excel as I'm hoping they will, I will truly enjoy myself rooting against the Padres and Giants this year.
So I feel good. I mean, they still got a really good lineup, but it's obviously a bit different than when they just pulled up the Briggs truck to just about anybody they wanted.
Well, at least you've got the Lakers, and they're really good. So you don't have to – Fuck you, BDS.
You're too short. You're too short.
Also, just want to let everyone know, all the listeners, that was our baseball preview. So, appreciate that.
That was our entire baseball preview. We have Belly this year, so that'll be fun.
Yeah. I mean, hopefully he finds it because, I mean, he's awesome.
But that'll be – it's always weird when you have guys on the team, you know, for a long time and then they dip out. But at least he's still in blue and white.
So, I guess I can kind of get down with it. Yeah, the Cubs are going to be – my line about the Cubs this year is they're going to be sneaky, not bad.
Take that however you want. That's a really good twist.
Yeah. That's a very good twist.
I've got a one-team rivalry. As long as we're not as bad as the athletics, then I'm happy with the national season.
That's fair. It's a race to the bottom.
Last thing, Max, when you win the Masters, which you can do physically and mentally – Thank you. Thank you, you have to agree to come on part of my take for at least five minutes that Sunday night.
Oh, man. Whatever y'all need.
I mean, that's easy. I'm going to be wearing a green jacket and smiling ear to ear.
So, yeah, I'm very in. I will be royally wasted by the time I get on, I'm sure.
Not to put any pressure on you, but I'm going to bet on you so much, I might win more money than you do. I hope you do, man.
That would be awesome. That would be such a fuss.
I would be so happy if that was the case. What I hope happens is that you win the most money anyone's ever won on a single bet, and somehow Batgirl, his account fucked it up, and he did bet did bet on rocko mediate and he's not even playing and he's going to be cheering the whole weekend he's going to cry tears of joy and then he's going to go to look at his account to see all the commas and he's going to say it's going to be red again uh so happy yeah i mean i think i think we're all loading up on you yeah it's max of the year yeah perfect year perfect Monday is either going to be a great day or a fucking terrible day for me no no no great day great day so let's stay positive Max thank you as always good luck in Augusta we'll be cheering you we'll be rooting we'll be watching everything and everyone just spicy meatball he's a spicy meatball that's what we're going to meetball thank you guys yeah and thank you guys for having me on this has been a nice running four-year tradition so i'd like to i'd like to keep it this one going also jake hi i love you you're the nicest man in the world oh uh it's the same i'm gonna see you but uh yeah i'm looking forward to uh i'm looking forward to this this should be fun yes all right awesome nothing for billy uh he can send me an animal video if you'd like but okay okay i'm not guaranteed to watch it but i mean that that kind of worked last year so i think maybe sunday maybe sunday if you're in contention yeah like sniffing around contention send me something fucked up you're good super Demographic.
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We have you on to talk some Masters. We're taping this before Masters Week, but we're running this Masters Week, so it is Masters Week.
Let's start big picture. Is anyone going to beat Scotty Scheffler? because it feels like for the first time since Tiger's run in the early 2000s, it's like Scotty Scheffler is playing at a different level than everyone else, and it's going to be hard if he plays even 90% of his best to beat him.
Yeah, you know, the interesting thing about the whole Scotty Scheffler experience was last year, it seemed not like a fluke. I mean, he, you know, he won in Phoenix, he'd obviously won in Bay Hill, and he'd won the match play.
But young people don't win at the Masters. Young players win everywhere else.
But typically, it takes a bit of time to get experience on the golf course, and to not be intimidated by the whole fact that you're trying to win a green jacket and to join like the most exclusive club in sport. And the fact that he was able to do that, and then he continued on and played well at the U.S.
Open and nearly won there. And then already has a win this season.
I think it's a great point in terms of who can beat this guy. Because he obviously hits the ball as far as anybody out there, which is very important at Augusta.
But it's his hands and his chipping around the greens that I think was so impressive last year and continues to impress me in terms of how he goes about his business. I mean, this is a guy that literally chips in what feels like every round.
And when you think back to that final round last year, you know, it seemed like he was kind of starting to do what young people do on Sunday at the Masters. And he hits that bump and run on three and it goes in for Birdie and the rest, you know, is part of Scotty Sheffler history.
So I would say he's my favorite with the way he's playing and the way he played in Austin headed into this golf course and knowing that if you play well at Augusta, you typically play well at Augusta year in and year out. I think he is the favorite going in, and it's going to take monumental efforts to kind of knock him off that because he doesn't seem intimidated by the other players and by the moment they're at the Masters.
More importantly, what is Scotty style when it comes to his sliders at the championship? Have we figured that out yet? Because my theory is it's just like seasoning salt that he puts on at the end. He's like, now it's Scotty style.
So sliders to me are best untouched. I don't need a lot on a slider.
Burgers are a different story, but to me, maybe a pickle, throw cheese on there, but I don't need more than that for a slider. I think it was UPFT that said he's going to lick all of them.
Is that right? Is that his approach? That might have been Big Cat. Yeah.
Okay. Just a little kiss on each slider.
I just want to see Gary Player's face if Scotty walked by and licked his slider before he consumed consumed it But that'll be a question I think that'll pop up In the press conferences What is Scotty's style for a slider? I'll be very interested I'm from Texas I don't really think we have a slider feel That is any different than other places But I guess we'll find that out It's like when dads say I serve this one up dad mode or whatever, and they just mix ketchup and mustard together,

it's like, that's dad's special sauce.

I think it's probably going to be something,

maybe like a touch of barbecue sauce on top,

and now it's Scotty style. Typically, it's just when I overcook stuff,

I say that's my own style, right?

It's like, oh, that's just well done.

You're going to love it.

Yeah.

A real golf question about Scotty's play.

At his peak, he does seem like he's the best,

but what about Jon Rahm?

If we've got peak Jon Rahm going up against peak Scotty Scheffler, who wins that? PFT, I know you've become a dimple head, as you call it. I know you're really obsessed with the game, and you understand that when you're really dialed, it's tough to be taken down.
I mean, unless you're playing big cat at Shinnecock, it's almost impossible to beat certain players. On the golf course, I would say right now, if Scotty Scheffler's playing his best golf, it's the best in the world.
And that is definitely not something I would have said six months ago. I think six months ago it would have been Rory or it would have been Jon Rahm or even Cameron Smith with the way, obviously, he played at St.
Andrews. But to me right now, with the way Scotty Scheffler is able to get the ball in the hole and then around the greens, think his best is the best in professional golf okay interesting so um the other big storyline for this masters is obviously the live guys showing up uh last year was a little weird because they hadn't played you know some of them weren't in officially in live they hadn't played a live event yet this year live is established as much as it can be you have the the the scotty dinner the the green jacket dinner and then you have the pairing so is it going to be awkward do you think at this dinner do you think that it's going to be like hey fuck you guys or does having a green jacket that exclusive club trump all and they and they kind of put put it aside and go with the manners route i think some of the players are trying their hardest to make it a little uncomfortable.
I mean, you've seen some of the comments from Sergio Garcia, who will be in there at the Champions Dinner. You've seen Fred Couples take shots at a couple of these guys, you know, in the media.
I mean, the quotes have been floating around. But I think when they get there, it won't be awkward.
I mean, these are adult men having dinner, eating sliders. I mean, how mean how awkward can it be as you guys have said it feels very much like a ruby tuesdays yes or an applebee's menu for these guys you can't be unhappy at an applebee's i i will say i did watch a super bowl at a chili's once alone and i was relatively unhappy that night i was on the road and you don't want to go to like a that type of restaurant and watch the actual super bowl there's not a lot of cheering and happiness happening around that bar my perfect date with myself go to chili's solo the super bowl's on tv you eat all the chips for yourself you drink all the margaritas that they sell yeah you you know what you have a limited mindset shane yeah you're not unlimited yeah you guys might be right.
Can I say, though, that the fact that they now put the calorie count on the Chili's, Chips, and Queso, when you eat that whole thing by yourself, it does make you feel like a lesser person. It's like 3,000 calories.
I feel like it actually is more of an accomplishment. I'm like, look at the score I put up.
I put up a high score today. Take that skillet case.

Maybe skillet cases on the sliders.

Yes.

All right.

So when we get to the actual tournament, there's obviously going to be some

live guys paired with just the nature of it.

They're not going to put all the live guys together.

So do you expect anything in that respect?

I'm guessing we're just going to make every little interaction. We're going to overblow it and be like, oh, look at this cold stare from Rory.
But is there anything to expect there to look out for? I don't think at the Masters you're going to see that. I think these players understand that of all the golf tournaments they play in, this is the one where you don't make it about yourself or strife among players and people.
I think we are going to talk about that that in terms of media i think we will blow this up as we get closer and closer to thursday but when you get out on the golf course i'd say people are going to be relatively calm and you know respectful and gentleman-like but i will say this big cat of all the microphones in golf it's the loudest one is at augusta and if you are going to say something if phil mickelson does want to take a shot or does want to say something about another person, if you say it there, you understand that everybody's going to be listening. So if there is a place that you could make a comment, that's going to float around outside of golf circles, it could happen here.
But I don't expect too much of that in terms of the players. I think they understand that at this, at this golf tournament, at this place, at this golf course, understanding what the masters is all about they'll probably be gentlemen okay we need phil mic'd up because phil is the one guy that if you just get him talking he'll just say a bunch of shit and then afterwards be like whoops didn't mean to say that he does he's he's done it before i mean if you think back to that rider cup press conference uh years ago where he's literally sitting next to the captain taking shots at him.
I mean, Phil is a lot of things. He's a very smart guy, and Phil understands what he says.
He understands that it's calculated, and if he says things to ruffle feathers, he's doing it on purpose. So I would say if there's anybody to kind of put odds on, it might maybe go that way.
It would be Phil Mickelson, but I also understand that this is phil's favorite week and it's his favorite golf tournament and i think the last place he wants to upset people at is augusta national so i think he'll be i think he'll be subdued to a certain extent so we've got a lot of listeners out there in the younger demographic a lot of kids that are massive fans of the aces uh on the live tour yeah yeah my four-year-old son chris he can't get enough patrick reed who is the one person from the live tour that you think could actually win the masters and how awkward would that be if a live player won at augusta i i'm gonna go back to cam smith i mean obviously that's taking the last major winner so that's maybe an easy way out but he's had a ton of success at augusta played great here last year you know he's got a great short game and he's an incredible putter and those things are very important at this golf course in particular. So I would say he'd be on the top of my list.
Dustin Johnson has won a green jacket before and typically plays well in majors and gets himself in top tens. But I think of all the storylines going in, that is the one I'm most interested in is considering how little amount of golf they've played in a professional environment.
I think they'll only have three live events going in to the masters, including, you know, the weekend that we just had in Orlando. They haven't played a lot of tournament golf and tournament golf is it's like going to the gym.
I mean, you're not going to be, you know, you're going to be way more sore if you take breaks, weeks off, going to the gym and your mind isn't going to be as sharp for tournament golf. If you're not playing as much as like Rory and Scotty and Max and that whole crew who's been playing, you know, since the wraparound season last year.
So if somebody does win, a live player does win, I will take it as more impressive than maybe anything else. Because again, I mean, they just haven't gone through the reps.
It might be too quiet out there for them. Liv is golf but louder, so they might not be used to all the silence at Augusta.
Maybe headphones like 10 Cup when he was doing the qualifier, like maybe bring a stringed headphone like Big Cat does when he's traveling. That would be a play.
It would be funny if they did. Play some slipknot.
Yeah, it would be funny if we also could watch the Liv golfers on cw just out of like you know masters cut a deal with cw and we're just watching them simulcast yeah just so that's the featured group coverage yeah i love that these are the live dudes yes would there be anything that would stop the live tour from like turning the masters having their own tournament inside of the masters so like whichever golfer plays the best at augusta they also know that they're going to get 10 million dollars from muhammad bin salman you know i mean it's it's a suggestion i'd put it in the box i don't i don't i don't think it's a dumb idea i just uh say who's the low live guy and if you win it's double i mean you know you never know they throw money around a lot yeah they might not let them play next year if they do something like that yeah now that i'm thinking about it that's true also a big part of it yeah all right so let's talk about the course what have they changed and how what do you expect from the course because we're big fans of the course on this podcast yeah 13 will be a different experience if you guys remember it i know you do last year 15 which is the other par five on the second night at augusta they made it longer and considering the weather we had last year the wind was into the player's face we didn't see as many players going for 15 you know in years past like in tigers prime i mean he was hitting five and six irons into that par five and we saw last year players going forward hitting three woods they did the same thing to 13 so 13 i think is the most famous five in the world. And I think a lot of golf nerds call it the best hole in the world in terms of golf.
They've added distance to that and they've elevated the tee as well. So you're going to see a lot more drivers off the tee at 13.
I think you're going to see a lot more balls left in the trees and in the creek there. So I think they're bringing in the big numbers again at 13.
So these par fives on the second nine where we used to see a lot of eagles and a ton of birdies you're still going to see eagles and birdies but you're also going to see you know six sevens and eights which uh you know brings in kind of the old school way of those par fives back in the day you know curtis strange in 1985 had a great chance to win the masters and he made six on 13 and 15 he was hitting into those par fives, and that's what we're going back to, which is pretty exciting. Okay, so another question about the course, and this is maybe just my – I don't know enough about golf and how these tournaments work.
When it comes to where they put the pins, do they deliberately say like, oh, these guys are scoring too well, let's make it harder as the weekend goes along? Like, do they know already where the pins will be on Saturday or Sunday? Or is that something they decide after the round on Friday and Saturday? I would say they have a good idea of where all the locations are going to be throughout the week. And the only reason they might change them is conditions.
So maybe they have it on a high point and it's an extremely windy day. And so they decide to move it a little bit, but at the masters and at Augusta,

I think they have a pretty good idea of where the whole locations will be

all four days.

And a lot of them,

especially on the second nine are relatively traditional whole locations.

Like you guys know at 16 when tiger one in 2019,

that's the same whole location is when he chipped in,

you know,

five,

you know,

where it's going to be on 17.

You have a good idea.

It's going to be short of the hill on 18.

I mean,

these are part of the tradition of the golf course and the golf tournament is putting them in the same spots so fans understand where they're going to be and players do as well. I love it when they release the pin locations in the morning.
So great. So early you see that tweak go out there and it's just like, okay, it's golf time, baby.
Yeah. PFT, you strike me as a guy that might even print those out just to have it around like a bracket no i just i pick my own so i i i map out what i think pin locations are going to be then i score myself it is kind of like a bracket after every day so if i go if i go 10 for 18 then that's a that's kind of my standard that i hold myself to perfect this is a great idea so it's like a blueprint of a green and you place where you think it to be.
That is next-level thinking. Yeah, I predicted.
In 2017, I had a perfect bracket on Thursday. No, it was a perfect front nine.
Yeah, it was perfect. Well, you didn't have the perfect back nine.
It was a perfect front nine on Thursday. Yeah.
But they're still talking about it to this day. Yeah, they are.
It was an incredible job. Big Cat, can I ask you a question? I've been interested in this.
Yeah. You guys have gotten way more into golf over the last year, year and a half, two years.
What's the power ranking of player at part in my take? Who's the best and who's the worst? Well, Hank plays the most. My problem is, unfortunately, Hank and PFT, for me, it's not unfortunate for everyone else, but they're getting really into golf.
I don't have the time to golf because I watch every sport, and then I also have two soon-to-be-three kids, so it's hard for me to be like, oh, yeah, I'm watching every sport every day, and then also on Saturday morning I'm going to peace out for six hours. So I think it's going to be bad when we start doing more golf content for me, but Hank is the one who plays the most, so he should be the best.
Jake is the best naturally. Like, Jake playing his best will beat everyone else, but Hank, I mean, he plays an insane amount of golf.
It'd be very embarrassing if Hank wasn't the best golfer on this podcast. Right.
But unfortunately, I think that might be the case. I think Jake is the best golfer on this podcast.
And then Hank would be second. I suck at golf.
I still haven't played a full, what do you call it, a round? Yeah. I haven't played a full round of golf yet, like a full 18.
So I think right now if I were to do it, I would probably shoot 140. But we're working, you know? We're working on it.
Got it. You have to start somewhere.
I also had an idea for Hank, by the way. You guys, I don't know if you guys know this, you guys do this lottery ball thing.
And Big Cat, I know you don't bring it up often that Hank's never gotten it.

But Hank has never gotten the number.

I mean, at least that's what I'm hearing when I listen.

I didn't even realize that.

Rarely brought up.

It's rarely brought up. Check the numbers.

I was thinking about this for Hank. When he gets it,

if he ever gets it, that's the number

he should mark his golf ball.

He should personalize his golf ball with that number

for the rest of his life.

I like that. I mean, he never will get it, but that's a good idea.
Like, he never, ever will get it. So, yeah, we'll never have to be there.
But I like the idea if, like, in a fantasy world, we're like, yeah, Hank's going to get it, never going to get it. That'd be like, I don't know.
Wait, do the old guys, I know the old guys at the the masters they tee off like why does why don't some of them say like i want to play the whole round like can they do that well past champions can play okay they can play the masters but i think the term is it they have to be competitive and so i'm assuming there's some sort of a number that you know you have to shoot around and uh and i also i, also these guys don't want to embarrass themselves. But there's been some shots back in the day, Jack smoking one or Gary hitting it solid.
And it's in a place where the pros, the guys that are going to tee up after him would love to be. So, yeah, maybe play one.
Play one for like 20 bucks or something. Yeah, if I'm Jack to Klaus, I'm playing the whole first two two rounds.
I'm playing Thursday and Friday being like, it's my right. I'm getting to do this.
I don't know why he doesn't. 1998, crazy little golf, nerdy golf stat for you.
In 1998, Tiger and Jack finished in the top 10 at the Masters. That is relatively wild.
That is wild. Super wild.
That's incredibly wild. Holy shit.
I want to go back to a comment you made and just get more detail on it. You said that young guys struggle at Augusta.
Why is that? What exactly is it? Is it just the scene, the stage is too big, or is it the actual golf course that guys struggle with? Yeah, I would say it's probably 50-50. I think it's a stage, you know, understanding that if you win at the Masters, you're forever in this club.
I mean, if you think about Jordan Spieth winning at such a young age, I mean, he's in that rotation for the rest of his life. And I think understanding what that means, I mean, a ton of money comes your way for the next five, 10 years as a Masters champion.
But I also think it's golf course. I think it's understanding that of all the golf courses, these guys will play all year long.
This is the one where knowledge is the most helpful. You know, somebody like Max, right? Max can't play any golf course and shoot 65.
But to truly understand the intricacies of hole locations and which ones not to go at and the way putts will break and tee shots that you want to take on and holes that you want to kind of you know pull back on I think there's so much of that in play at this golf course in particular I remember Max telling a story at his first Masters was 2020 if you guys remember that was the November Masters and he played with Fred Couples who has played you know 40 something Masters and he said on 13 Fred Couples laid up short of the creek and hit it like five feet off the ground. And Max was walking up and asked him what the reasoning was that for.
And he said, if you hit it high and it's soft, you might get a mud ball. So he just kind of puts it down the fairway and it avoids getting mud on the golf ball.
I mean, that is the type of knowledge that you get when you play this place year in and year out. And so, you know, when you look at the average age of winners, it's typically in their 30s, not in their 20s, like we're seeing in other golf tournaments, especially in the modern era.
I love it. I mean, I love those, like, intricacies of the Masters that makes it so unique, and I guess it makes sense because these guys can't, like, they can't just play Augusta in, like, random times in the year, correct? Like, Max can't just say, I want to go play Augusta

and get a few rounds in to learn more about the course. Kenny, I think you can go on a scouting trip.
I'm not a hundred percent sure on that. I think if you're in the master's tournament, you can go play a day or two, but I mean, you can't go five times.
You can't go 10 times. I mean, if you want to go and fly up, if you guys watched full swing, you know, last year when Jordan and Justin, they went to Tulsa, they played Southern Hills.
I mean, you could do that four or five times if you wanted before the PGA championship. That's not the case, obviously, at the Masters.
And also, Augusta's not open all year round because they're always doing changes and they close it down in the summer. And so, you know, you just, you're not allotted that much time to go out there and do that.
So yeah, when you show up Masters week – and the other thing is the golf course doesn't play like it plays like it does in the Masters except for Masters week. So you'll hear players say, I was at her two weeks ago, but it was almost, in theory, a waste of my time in terms of tournament prep.
And do they pipe in the bird noises on television? No, you'll see birds. You'll see birds flying around.
There's no piping in. This thing is thing is all natural baby it is ready to rock are you are you allowed to carry your cell phone on the course because you're a journalist i can't uh i think you've got to be like van pelt level okay is basically what i cut the line off at i think if you're scott van pelt or jim you might be able to carry it around but i am not allowed a cell phone on the course wow scott has to be ready in case any Mets get injured.
He has to be able to fire off some tweet and start doing a selfie of him doing the gritty across the green. Yeah, exactly.
Always at the right. Man, that could be a Mount Rushmore of people you'd like to see do the gritty.
Van Pelt would be high on the list. He'd probably rock it.
He's 6'6". Yeah, I mean, when they bring Darren Ruff back up to the majors, you'll see him do it.
He's He's going to be pumped. That's a fact.
That's a fact. All right, so give us some other names.
Obviously, we talked about Scottie, but give us maybe three or four names that you got circled, a long shot even, that you're like, these guys are playing great golf and their game fits Augusta. Yeah, so this isn't a name that I'm pulling from any sort of a weird hat, but I'm very interested to see what Rory does on Thursday, Friday.
Rory, if you guys remember last year when he held that bunker shot, he shot 64 in the final round. And after the final round, he said, I'm leaving here with my first positive thoughts at any Masters.
And so I'm interested to see how Rory kind of rolls that in. He's been playing great golf.
I mean, you know, he made the consolation match of the match, play already a winner this year. So I'm very interested to see how he does.
I mean, I'm actually really excited to see what Hideki does. You know, Hideki obviously has won at Augusta, but he's kind of been in and out of injury.
And he's playing this week in, well, I guess last week in Texas, he's playing in San Antonio, which is a bit abnormal for Hideki in terms of his scheduling. So I'm interested to see how he kind of rolls into it and does.
And then the other name, and again, you guys have already mentioned this is one of the best players in the world, but somebody like John Rahm, who we saw play great early in the season, but he hasn't played as well of late. I'm just interested in seeing what John Rahm does because again, John Rahm is such a good pitcher of the golf ball.
And I'd say if you're going to rank skill sets to do well at Augusta, pitching the golf ball is number one. And the fact that Jon Rahm is so good at that.
And then, you know, one of you guys is boys, but the Max Homa ride, for goodness sakes. And the fact that he has now turned probably the worst part of his game in terms of being able to chip the golf ball consistently into a real weapon.
I mean, he's one of the best in the world at pitching off fairway lies. I'm so excited to see what Max can do here because he's obviously been playing great and he's been trending in these major championships.
And I only feel like it's a matter of time before he gets himself in contention. So I feel like it's a, it's a max week.
I would be shocked if he wasn't, you know, top five, top 10 headed into Sunday. Wow.
I love it now, but he did call out the course a little bit. So we just had him on part of my take, and he said, it's going to rain.
It's going to rain next week. So there's some low numbers out there.
Yeah, but he's a mudder, man. Max is a mudder.
I was texting with him yesterday about this. He said, the forecast looks bad.
And I said, that's good for you because Max is one of those guys that the grosser it gets, the more into it he gets. And a lot of the players, when it gets nasty, it gets wet.
You're not playing great golf. That can affect you, and Max is one of those guys that almost plays into his hands.
So I would say the nastier, the better for Max. I like that.
I love it. Nasty.
So the other thing I'm wondering, you say we wouldn't be shocked if Max is in top five, top ten. How shocked would you be if Tiger is in one of those last few groups on Sunday? Because obviously Tiger, even though he's gone through the injuries, people always will say when he gets to Augusta, it's different.
He knows the course better than anyone else. So do you think Tiger has a run in him? Yes, I do.
One of the biggest things for Tiger going into this Masters versus last year, there was a ton of unknown going in last year. Obviously, we didn't even know if he could walk 72 holes.
If you remember the week before the Masters, we weren't even sure if he was going to play. The fact that he played Riv this year, he played in Los Angeles, and he played excellent golf for a couple of those rounds.
He shot 67 on Saturday, one of the low rounds of the entire day. The fact that he has four rounds of walking a golf course, it's not easy to walk, playing competitive golf, having a couple of great days, I think was huge for Tiger's mental approach to this week.
And so we saw some good from Tiger last year. If you remember, he shot 71 on Thursday.
I feel like we will see better from Tiger this year. Would I be shocked if he was in the top five going into Sunday? I would not be shocked.
I wrote an article years ago for Fox Sports that said Tiger was done. I mean, obviously that was incredibly incorrect about Tiger's career.
I would be non-shocked if he was in the top five, but just going into this this year versus last year, I feel more positive about him being able to go four days on a golf course that's one of the hardest walks of the entire year for the pro golfers. That would be awesome.
If Tiger was just in the conversation on Sunday, that would really make a lot of people's weekends. What is in the conversation, by the way? What does he need to be come Sunday to be, quote, unquote, in the conversations? Top 20 yeah is it six shots back I think he needs I think it's in truly in the conversation I think he needs to be within like four shots of the lead and it can't be obviously he's four shots a lead but he's you know 13th like because you you know there's obviously he doesn't he can't jump that many guys but if he's if he is we're waking up Sunday and it's like if Tiger Woods plays his best round, he will have a chance to win this.
That's kind of where I would be like Tiger's really in the conversation here. That first page that they show the leaderboard before they scroll to the – if he's at the bottom of that first page because with Tiger, I still have it in my head because we've been watching him since, what, 97 whenever whenever he came on to the national stage.
I'm always thinking, like, Tiger, he could just hit a hole-in-one on a par four. Like, that thought is always in the back of my head, like, this guy is so much different from everybody else.
Just get Tiger on the first page, and I can convince myself he can win it. And I will say this about the Masters.
We were talking about young players at the Masters earlier. I would say this is one of the last golf tournaments that you will truly see players choke on Sunday simply because they understand what comes with this I think that was a little bit of what I talked about earlier with Scheffler last year is it was a slow start on Sunday and you kind of had that feeling okay maybe he's not ready and then obviously he proved that to be incorrect but when Tiger was in the hunt in 19 and he ended up winning, you saw players that don't typically struggle or choke fall apart late.
If you remember Koepka, he obviously hits it in the water on 12. But Brooks, who I would say was the alpha male in pro golf at that time over anybody else, and he knew that, finally faced off with somebody that was more of an alpha than he was, and he had great chances on 17 and 18 to potentially get in a playoff with Tiger, and he didn't hit the hole on those putts.
If Tiger is around the lead on 11, 12, 13 on Sunday, it matters so much more than anybody else in the field being around the lead because he understands what it takes to win those things, and there are so many players that don't understand what it takes and how to get it done at this golf course in that type of pressure environment. And so if he's four back, three back, even going to the second nine on Sunday, I think there's a real opportunity that he could pull off number six.
We are still rooting for Brooks. We want him to step his game back up and to get in the conversation during these majors.
But maybe you can tell from a golf perspective what's different about Brooks's game now than you know four years ago yeah I mean it's just all been health I'm with you guys I mean no matter you know my thing with the PGA Tour and live and this whole quote-unquote split is a lot of the guys that went to live are still interesting to watch and they're still fun to root for I'm talking about Brooks Brooks. I mean, you know, Bryson is polarizing, obviously, and people either love him or don't like him.
Right. And that's good for golf because golf obviously needs, needs villains and struggles to find those villains.
But for Koepka, it's always been health. I mean, he's just been going through a ton of health issues over the last two and three years.
And it's not just being unhealthy, but when you're unhealthy, you also can't practice. And if you're not practicing, obviously, you know, you're going to be losing ground to the people that can go out there and bang balls 100% healthy.
That's something Tiger has talked about over the last 10 years of his life is he just hadn't had the opportunity to go out there and hit his many range balls and work on his game like a Rory could or a Cam Smith could or a Jordan Spieth could. Makes sense.
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Give us someone from that.

We're not talking about that. I won't ask you to have them win, but maybe a top 10, top 20 from back in the field where it's like, I got my eye on this guy.
I think he's setting up perfect for this tournament. I'll go Jason Day.
I know his odds have improved as of late, but, you know, Jason Day in his prime. So 2014, 2015, 2016 was a staple on the leaderboards at the Masters.

Really had an awesome chance to win, I believe, in 2011 when there was some seven, eight, nine guys in and around the lead with about four or five holes to play. Jason Day has been trending, and his game plays so well at Augusta.
Exceptional putter, great pitcher, the golf ball, and has kind of gained some distance this year. So I would say Jason Day, while he's a notable name and somebody that I think three, four, five years ago we would have already brought up, I feel like the way he's been playing as of late, I would say he is looking at this week as a real opportunity to win a second major in a first green jacket.
So I would say Jason Day is the name that I'm looking at looking at and you know i i think joaquin neiman is somebody that i could see have some success here just the way he hits the golf ball and again in and around the greens uh i'd say those are kind of two people that uh i'm looking at that maybe aren't on those you know first five six seven odd list okay so if if those guys finish top 20 everyone tweets shane and be like thanks for the pick and if they if they don't, be like, Shane's a fucking idiot. He should never talk golf again.
I forgot one guy. I have pledged it.
I will bet on him every single major until he wins one. Will Zalatorre.
How are we feeling about Willie Z? I love his game. He seems like a great guy.
We've had him on the show, and I'm just pot committed at this point. I'm just going to keep doing it.
I've lost a lot of money. He's been very close, but I'm going to keep doing it until he wins a major.
Yeah, I mean, came really, really close last year at multiple majors, has just also been battling some injury, which is a bit of a bummer because he was trending in the right direction. I think Will Zalatorre is probably a top three or four iron player in the world.
And if you talk to pro golfers, they say Augusta. I think it's way more about pitching, but a lot of the players will call it a second shot golf course.
So I would say Zalatoris is always going to be in and around on the weekend at this place because of the fact that he's just such an exceptional iron player. But the in and out of injury, battling that over the last six, seven, eight months, I don't love injured golfers going into a place like this because I just don't feel like they've been able to spend as much time on their game.
Would I be surprised if Will Zalatorce was in the hunt? Absolutely not. But he probably wouldn't be in my list of six people I'd pick if I was putting together some sort of a master's pool.
Just so it's clear, I'm still going to bet on Will Zalatouris. Yeah, no, I've made my bed.
I've come close. The U.S.
Open, I remember, was on Father's Day, and I had to give, like, a speech in my house, like, everyone just shut up, we're trying to get this win. He ruined Father's Day, but that's okay.
Actually, Fitzpatrick ruined Father's Day, not Will Zalatouris. but uh yeah well i'm a willie z guy for life yeah i mean he's he's such a cool kid i've had the opportunity to cover him you know back in my fox days when he was playing in some of those usga championships you knew he was a stud then you could kind of feel it i mean i even got that sensation in and around scotty scheffler he was low amateur at aaron hills that year and i got a chance to just, you guys know this.
I mean, you guys did it with so many athletes. There are young athletes that come in and they're cool and they're calm and they're collected.
And then there's that level above that where they're almost feel like they're 40 year olds and Salatoris was like that. And Scheffler was like that.
And so there's no, there's been no surprise to me that they've been successful this early in their careers, considering it feels like the head on the shoulders thing is real i think scheffler might actually be 46 i think he was born 46 years old like as a baby he's like doing his golfs greg odin just just just dialed and ready to rock and roll yeah yeah it's it's it's a good it's a good joke that floats around the golf circles the no laying up guys have leaned on that heavily over the last a few years about scheffler being older than he is. But there was actually – there's a new picture at my golf course, and it's from like the 1800s, and it looks exactly like Scotty Scheffler.
I'll text you guys a picture when I go back over there because, again, it's an ancient photo, and it looks like Scotty. I think it might be like an Albert Pujols type situation, a fake birth certificate for Scotty Scheffler.
I think he is. What was the baseball player, Danny? What was his last name? Almonte, yeah.
He's Danny Almonte. That's what he is, except he's just always been 46.
His birthday, his age never changes. I saw that you tweeted something out the other day I want to ask about, then we'll let you go.
You're competing in a tournament or maybe just a round of golf where you just get one club for the entire round. And you're trying to figure out what the best club to you if you could only use one club for 18 holes of golf.
I've always thought it's the 7-iron. And you're thinking about not doing the 7-iron.
Okay, so I didn't write this on Twitter because you guys know how Twitter is especially these days. And there had been a lot of clapback if I had mentioned mention it I won the one club tournament last year with a seven iron I made four pars to close which I was very impressed about and so I I've I've been throwing out the idea of using a seven wood which again would allow me to gain distance off the tee but the little chippy shots might be a little tougher and I've had a lot of people bringing up bunkers so it's really really, for me, between 7-wood and 7-iron.
And 7-wood, the reasoning is because Max Homa. Max Homa is a 7-wood guy.
I've followed in the footsteps of one of my heroes, and I've become a 7-wood guy as well. And I'm really considering it.
It is this Saturday at a local course here in Connecticut, and either I'm going to go 7-iron or 7-wood, and it seems like the people at least want to see the 7-wood. I would actually go putter.
Just all putter. Off the tee? I can drive my putter 65 yards.
PFT, you need to get a – I think it was – was it the Tuttle? It was like an old Callaway putter they had back in the day, and it looks like a 3-wood, and you could absolutely smoke that thing off the tee. So maybe that's a purchase you need to have in the near future yeah i like i like the putter the chipper putter you remember those things yes i have a couple buddies that still use those things yes always always slightly embarrassing when they pull it out but hey if it's effective who cares yeah um all right well shane thank you so much appreciate it very excited masters week is the best best nap of the year uh go find him at Shane Bacon on Twitter you can listen to him all the time uh he's got the book out we got to get everyone got to buy the book uh so thanks so much Shane we appreciate it absolutely guys big fans of you guys you guys crush it all the time thanks for having me okay let's wrap it up.
We got FAQs. Max.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
He got suspended five games. Have you heard this one? Another swing and a miss from Anthony Rendon.
Oh, man. That was, I mean, everyone who's been listening to the show, who's been following forever, knows that I have the rule that they should enact in all sports that every player gets to fight one fan once a year because that solves that.
He gets to fight that guy who called him a pussy, beat his ass. He called him a bitch.
He called him a bitch, beat his ass, and then no one's going to fuck with the rest of the Nats because he'll be like, wow, Anthony Rendon beat the fuck out of him. They're all probably tough.
Well, he's on the Angels now. Angels.
Thanks for bringing that up. He's another great player that the Nats lost.
But he hasn't been that good since he left the team, so that's net positive. Yeah, and he suspended five games.
He suspended five games. I think that's as close as Rob Manfred would get to saying, yeah, you're allowed to take a swipe out of fan if he calls you a bitch yeah because that's that's like nothing he grabbed him it was awesome when he just had him in his grasp yeah i could just never let you go the funniest part about that was his dad the the guy's dad was walking his son down and like pushing his son at anthony rendon being like yeah this is my son he's the guy that called you a bitch go ahead say it to his face and Anthony Rendon and being like, yeah, this is my son.
He's the guy that called you a bitch.

Go ahead.

Say it to his face.

And then Rendon tried to slap him.

Rendon, he's used to missing games.

So this would be fine for him.

You should be allowed to fight a fan for sure.

Yes.

Or at least just slap.

Just a power slap.

All these fans wouldn't be talking like this if you had the threat of like, this guy can just beat my ass. Classy or not by Rendon.
I think it's classy. I think it was classy.
I think the whole thing was classy. Yeah, it was like challenging him to a duel.
Open hand slap. That's okay.
Joe Biden, invite him both to the White House. Let's figure this out once and for all.
All right. FAQs.
Is Man Movie Friday really happening this this summer so much of your demo is probably severely lacking the movies you grew up on i hate the only baseball dog days of summer so i so i need something else to look forward to i want to do it i think we should do it um i think we should maybe test it out in july and see if people like. And if people like it, we will try to do a few more,

and then maybe we'll start doing it every summer.

But my idea was, so in college, we would do Man Movie Fridays,

and we would watch just, like, the worst action movie you can watch,

and we'd just sit down and watch it in the middle of the afternoon and get drunk so we'd watch uh blood sport which is actually an incredible movie uh what was the what was the other one fuck now my brain is not working right under siege under siege we all all the seagal movies uh hard target um cobra there's so many good movies that are just action movies with cheesy dialogue it's basically like watching like porn but instead of fucking they just beat the fuck out of each other because like the dialogue's that bad best of the best two maybe my favorite movie ever so i think we should do it i think we should do it i think we should do it commando is another one i would commando arnold schwarzenegger that was his like coming. Oh, amazing.
He kills a dude by throwing a steam pipe into his chest and goes, Hey, Bennett, let off some steam. They're so good.
I mean, basically, we could just do all of Seagal's library. We could go Jean-Claude Van Damme.
If Jean-Claude Van Damme or Steven Seagal are in a movie, I will love it. Like, that's just...
That's just...

That's Roadhouse.

Roadhouse is a great movie.

That was what I was thinking of.

That actually is incredible.

Maybe we'll start with Roadhouse.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Roadhouse has the best line of all time

when it's the bad guy says to...

I don't know if he says it's Patrick Swayze

or someone else.

He grabs him.

He says,

I used to fuck guys like you in prison.

It's like, wait. So you fuck guys in prison? in prison i wouldn't i would not mess with that guy yeah so yeah i think we should do it don't you guys think like july we can because we can tape them before the move we can just sit down bang bang through some of them we'll actually like review them we'll tell everyone maybe we'll release the schedule before july so people have a ton of time to get ready for it.
I think the title of this should be movies that you've watched before that you're going to watch again. Okay.
I think that's a good concept of podcasting. Okay.
I like that. I like that.
Yeah. We'll work on the title.
Rewatching old movies. Don't say the R word word okay um mentally watching see it again seeing movies again seeing movies again yep for the second time yeah or third it's a great name um was billy saying zach wilson had the had patrick mahomes potential the hottest take in pmt history I haven't listened episode in six years and I've

been wracking my brain trying to find a worse take in show history I mean I've got I've got a very recent one that we could say which one I mean I don't want to say it again oh no title town oh yeah that was no but I immediately walked that back yeah in retrospect really truly believe that um we've had some pretty bad ones. I'm pretty sure when Patrick Mahomes was playing in his first preseason, I saw one clip where he didn't look good, and it was also because the Bears didn't draft.
I was like, this guy's a bust. So that was pretty bad.
I was like, you can't play like that in the NFL. I thought Brandon Staley was going to turn this whole Chargers thing around.
I was like, this guy knows ball. This guy has – it's a new C-words team.
Forget your father's C-word. We thought Nathaniel Hackett was smart.
Yeah, we did. Yeah, so there's been some bad, but that one probably is the worst because he stuck by it so hard.
Like, a lot of the bad ones were pretty quick to be like okay that was bad I mean we have a lot of in the moment ones too I mean the Asante Samuel Jr. is overrated and then he had three interceptions in the wild card game that was pretty bad by me yeah I just said Drew Holiday was a role player and then he dropped 51 points that night what what do you got memes oh dunking no dunking from the free throw line it's not a take that was just a dumb idea you can still lay it up that was the worst debate in pardon my take history for the listeners who weren't here from the start how did you decide to start pmt lamar to atlanta go falcon oh oh good question um we're actually telling this story oh we were telling it telling it at- Kurt Goldsberry's class, yeah.
Kurt Goldsberry's class. We, PFT and I met online.
We basically- Tinder? Yeah, like we have farmers only. No, but we met online in 2014.
And then 2015, we finally met. Or no, 2014 we met.
He was in Chicago for a wedding Grabbed a beer. We liked each other.
We liked each other's vibe. We only did groping.
No fucking at that time. I took him back to my place.
There should be an app like Grindr, but just for dudes that want to meet another dude to start a podcast with. Yeah.
No, we actually in early Internet days, PFT and i would get tagged in tweets being like p p i would get tagged in tweets being like you stole this from pft pft would get in tagged in tweets you stole this from big cat and then we sat down i remember it vividly we sat down for a beer in chicago and we were like just kind of meeting each other talking back and forth and we both were we both had the the same thought that it would be funny to claim that cal ripkin did steroids just to ruin everybody's childhood we were like you know it'd be great and we like said it at the same time it was basically like stepbrothers like did we just become best friends yeah because we want to claim the cal ripkin did steroids i think we also had to take that uh when ragnar the unofficial mascot of of the vikings the guy that drive out on the motorcycle for games, he held out from the team and wanted like $10 million. It was like a 30-year contract for like $10 million.
Yeah, and we were like, you got to pay him. You got to pay Ragnar.
That's a guy you need around. But then Chernin bought Barstool, and the first person I thought of was like PFT.
So I told Dave, we we gotta hire this guy and we're like let's do a podcast funny little wrinkle that doesn't get talked about hank was actually thinking about going back to school when i told him hey i want to do this podcast with this guy pft i want you to produce he was he was actually going to go back to school to become a doctor so who knows how many back to duke who knows how many lives we've saved by preventing hank from entering the medical profession yes but hank legitimately i remember it very well because he was on the dixie tour and he's he was kind of like i don't know what i'm doing with my life he's having a little like midlife or quarter life crisis and i was like just hold on dude this guy's about to buy barstool and i really want to do this podcast with pft and i think you should produce it and the rest is history yeah i told i told several people when i was making that move uh who are in the business i i let them know and they responded with saying this is the worst career move of your life that you could make don't do this i'd like to tell those people to suck my dick yeah from the back respectful from the back um one please do a master's preview you're welcome okay oh done two how long does it take to produce an episode from prep to recording to editing to release and three i think ever got the lottery well we sit down uh let's just take I don't know, a random Tuesday show. We'll sit down like this one.
And right after the game was over, big cat and I went up to the hotel room and we, we wrote for about three hours and we, we, we came up with this great script. Max has been taking acting classes as well.
Yeah. So he's been mad.
A great job pretending to be max. uh so there's a lot of crisis actor there's a there's a ton of prep that goes bad for sad sports fans we actually yeah we found him at uh nyu he was in acting school and we're like this guy he just seems like a philly guy so let's see if we can make that role work um so yeah we just script everything out and then we record it and then they edit it cgi no they just press a button it takes two seconds big cat's mustache is cgi into every episode no i honestly the the show it it's tough to say like it writes stuff we don't really do that much prep anymore no for the show uh during nfl sundays we'll do prep because there's so many games that we have to go back and pull stats from and we'll write the boomers and all that shit.
But for the most part, it's we know what we're going to talk about. Pull together some research.
It doesn't have to be true. And then we'll just go from there.
Yeah, we're very lucky because people somehow enjoy us talking about sports. And we don't.
Yeah, there's not a lot of prep prep anymore it's like basically the prep happens like passively like watching games license prep yeah right watching games like you know following stories but yeah we don't write anything out we'll have just like uh the only thing really the only thing we do outside of you know the boomers like sometimes we'll sit down and i'll just say to pft right before we record like let's do the games in chronological order or like let's talk about this first well that's about it also hank spends about like an hour before each episode just copy and pasting tom franelli's twitter feed that's true into google docs so that he can just read those out verbatim yeah but i would actually would actually like to hear from you, Max. How long does it take to edit?

Because we don't know.

It depends on how long the episode is.

If it's an hour episode, it'll probably take two hours from when we stop to when we start

to release it on the back end.

That's why Hank has always told us that we need to do...

For the longest time when Hank was producing the show and editing the show, he's like, let's try to do it faster. Correct.
It's about like double the time of whatever, how long we record. Got it.
That's just for audio. I only do audio.
We have another guy, Evan. He does the YouTube.
Shout out Evan. He's awesome.
Shout out Evan. It probably takes him about three hours because there's just more that goes into uh the video editing aspect but great addition because now we get YouTube up in the morning which I know a lot of people love watching um and memes does most of the clips so Billy's actually Billy spends uh negative time preparing for the show he'll prepare for the show as he's doing the show younger when he walks out of the studio yeah there's a painting of billy hanging up in some attic somewhere he's that he's that planet in interstellar where he ages in reverse or maybe it was the age faster put either way yeah but but sorry uh when memes gets to it was memes uh memes just does most of the clips so whole i don't know an hour yeah we are an hour and a half we're very very lucky because like i said we get to talk about the shit that we like to talk about sports all the time and people like to listen to us and we're also very lucky because we have an awesome team like max memes shane evan they work really hard behind the scenes they make sure that pm tv's up they make sure we look good so yeah, it's crazy to think because it used to be just me, PFT, and Hank.
And because we've been successful, we've been able to add people, and it's been awesome. And we love being on the road together.
We had a great drive, three-hour drive, just talking, shop, making jokes, getting snacks. A lot longer to edit on the road.
I will say that as well. What did you say? A lot longer to edit on the road as well.
The road is not the easiest part of our job, but we can't complain. This is the last one.
Does moving to Chicago make Hank think he gets a better chance at the lottery ball? Hank is threatened to throw the lottery ball machine out. He keeps mumbling like, I better get it before we move to Chicago.
I think that's just solely because he is just like you know 9 plus million new people in the city in Chicagoland that can be like hey Hank have you ever gotten it that alone scares the shit out of him if we let Hank get his hands on the lottery ball machine he's going to drive to Chicago with it and then he with it and then he's going to dump it into the chicago river like dave matthews yes yes all their shit yes onto a boat full of tourists yes no we um i am i'm gonna buy once hank gets it i think for the new office i'm gonna buy a bigger one like the one that that you actually see uh on the nightly news when they do the lotto numbers and like i want it to be like the central point of our new studio where it's like see this and then the beauty of it is hank had never gotten on the new one so we start afresh i think if hank doesn't get it by the time by the end of next football season he should have to get the lottery ball machine tattooed on his body agreed agreed and uh wait he just texted me because he's listening he said yep i'll do it uh you know what if hank does not reply to the part of my take tweet announcing that the show is out within four hours okay he consents to getting the lot of ball machine tattooed on his body. I like it.
like it the ball's in your court hank yeah let's do it hank um is that it that's it well i guess i don't know does he get in this episode well let's find out love you guys thank you for being my friends okay numbers time we've done these back to back what are are these for? It's for Wednesday. What's this one for?

It's for Wednesday's show.

Oh, you're not going to be part of Wednesday's show.

Yeah, I'm on vacation.

No, he's going on vacation.

But aren't we recording Tuesday morning?

Yeah, but he's going on vacation Sunday.

Oh.

Yeah.

Okay, you can watch, though.

Hank's not here.

He's never gotten it, so it really doesn't change anything.

Numbers.

Let me go 17.

18.

You know what I'm saying? Hank's not here. He's never gotten it, so it really doesn't change anything.

Numbers.

I'm going to go 17.

18.

I'm going to go 6.

And you know what?

I'll split it with Hank.

Okay.

He's not here, though.

99.

99.

Evan? 66.

66.

All right.

I'm going 6.

What would you have guessed, Hank, Even though you're not here I'm on vacation 13 Damn 8th time Damn if you had picked 13 You would have won 8 times I'm not even here so I'm just saying it out loud to the world. Yeah, Hank wasn't allowed to pick a number because he didn't show up for that show.
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