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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people. Johnny Fanta in studio, electric.
He is the college basketball insider. Perfect day to have him on.
He came straight from the Rick Petino.

Speaker 1 press conference. He also has a lot of thoughts about Ed Cooley, the rest of the tournament.
Great time with him. And then we have our old friend, Damon John, in studio.

Speaker 1 He has a new book, a children's book, and he teaches PFT and I about economics like we're children, because we are. It was a very fun interview.

Speaker 1 One of those interviews where I think his publicist came out and was like, that was the best interview he's ever done. So both must listen.
We're going to talk World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 1 We got Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and then we have Guys on Chicks to finish off the show.

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Speaker 1 let's go.

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Speaker 2 in the bio.

Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Wednesday, March 22nd, and the St.
Louis Cardinals have lost America.

Speaker 7 Okay, go on. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, Paul Goldschmidt just hitting into a double play when we had a little rally going. I mean, we lost.
We lost.

Speaker 1 USA lost to Japan for all the baseball crazies who have been yelling at everyone online. We watched the entire game.
We taped after the game. I enjoyed the game.
It was incredible.

Speaker 1 Our hero, our collective hero who's been on all of our teams, Kyle Schwarber is the absolute man.

Speaker 1 That was like my favorite moment because we all have known from watching Kyle Schwarber play baseball when he's locked in and he hit like four home runs and one at bat.

Speaker 1 It just one of them had to eventually go fair.

Speaker 1 But we ended Shohei Otani striking out Mike Trout.

Speaker 1 The game ends. Was it strikeout? Yeah, it was a strikeout.

Speaker 7 It was a strikeout. And it was, I felt.

Speaker 7 Really, the big loser of tonight was the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim because,

Speaker 7 wow, that lasted bat. John Smoltz said it best.
I think there were two strikes, and John Smoltz goes, and these two guys right now, two of the best baseball players to ever play the sport.

Speaker 7 It was awesome. It was a great game, though.

Speaker 7 I loved watching it.

Speaker 7 We always said, we've been consistent on this show, we weren't going to care about the World Baseball Classic until the United States started winning, and then we were going to become Fairweather fans.

Speaker 7 And it turns out it was an electric atmosphere. And you're right, about that Schwarbert bat,

Speaker 7 everyone in the stadium knew that Schwerbert was about to hit a home run because he hit probably, I'd say like three quarters of a mile worth of home runs during that bat.

Speaker 7 And then one just happened to go fair. And shout out to the guy in the outfield that almost killed himself trying to catch that ball and fell over the railing.
Like, yeah, that was at that moment.

Speaker 7 I just thought, like, if you could build the entire team out of Schwarber, I think we would win this game 15 to nothing.

Speaker 1 He's the absolute best. He just pissed on the baseball.
Like, it was exit velocity, 120. That's my own stat cast sitting on my couch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a fun game. I enjoyed it.
I watched the entire game.

Speaker 1 Smoltz was, I think it's just maybe it's a little early for him because he also had a moment that he had to correct himself where he's like, this guy, Eugh Darvish, is going to be a star in this league.

Speaker 1 And then he corrected himself. He's like, well, he's already been really, really good.
Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 He's been around for a while, dude.

Speaker 7 It seems like he was on Kway Ludes the entire game, just kind of like in a fog, wasn't really feeling the atmosphere.

Speaker 7 Schwarber hit a ball probably, I don't know, 450 yards or 450 feet to the right of the foul pole. And then Smoltz was just like, and here's the payoff pitch.
Like, didn't even talk about it.

Speaker 7 It was honestly bizarre listening to Smoltz talk about it, but it was an awesome game.

Speaker 7 Good tournament.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Baseball. Got it.
Shout out to Baseball. Shout out to Baseball.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I was kind of joking, but I mean, the heart of our lineup was St. Louis Cardinals, and they went one for seven.
Not great. right? I mean,

Speaker 1 if we're doing the blame, what are you going to say, Hank? I keep finished. I I have some more blame.

Speaker 1 Well, if we're doing a blame, I think I'd start with those guys, get some hits and some big moments, and maybe this game, maybe we can be sitting here bragging about the U.S.

Speaker 1 being the best in baseball. I also, the other note was.
Well, to that point, Big Cat, there was three Philadelphia Phillies on the team. So fitting out the ball.
That was my other point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was. I think it absolutely counts as another max second place because the two runs are scored by Phillies.
The Phillies tried their hardest. They were treating it like the World Series.

Speaker 1 And just like Philadelphia does all the time, we came up second place, right?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, at least we didn't get no hit this time. So that's kind of nice.

Speaker 7 Max, former national Trey Turner used to be good until Philly corrupted him.

Speaker 1 Max, thoughts? Second place?

Speaker 1 You tell us how to deal with this because you know so well.

Speaker 3 This is bullshit.

Speaker 3 My entire mentions right now are just that I'm a jinx once again, and that my guys are the only ones who fucking showed up.

Speaker 3 And now it's now it's Philly's fault again, even though they were the best players on the team.

Speaker 1 They were close.

Speaker 7 They tried their hardest.

Speaker 1 They came up to us short. I like how we're doing.

Speaker 7 All they were doing was hitting bombs.

Speaker 1 We're doing they when they were playing for team USA.

Speaker 1 But yeah, no, in terms of so obviously, like we said, PFT alluded to it, we were going to pay attention if the U.S. got far in the tournament and also as soon as March Madness wasn't on.

Speaker 1 I had my first brush with baseball Twitter. I think they're just, they're on high alert this entire tournament.
It's been a great, it has been a great tournament. I watched the entire game tonight.

Speaker 1 I've seen clips from other games. I thought it was very fun.
I'm not a World Baseball Classic hater, but if you tell me, would you rather watch World Baseball Classic or March Madness?

Speaker 1 I'd say March Madness 100 times out of 100 times. That's okay.
Everyone can like what they like.

Speaker 1 But it was funny because I had, I did tweet, like, there's no, like, World Baseball Classic is stupid anyway, essentially because we lost.

Speaker 1 If we had won, I would have been like, this is the greatest victory ever.

Speaker 1 And I had like a little touch of the baseball Twitter people who have been on high alert for the last week and a half defending the game. Stand down, people.
Stand back and stand down.

Speaker 1 I don't, I, I don't actually care that much. I, I, I thought it was a fun tournament.
I'm, I'm down for the more World Baseball Classic. It was, it seemed like a really good time.

Speaker 1 Just maybe don't schedule it during March Madness and I'd watch every game.

Speaker 7 I think that that baseball has become the new hockey in terms of their fan base being like, please like my sport and being on high alert in case anybody out there seems to be like quasi-disrespectful or at least ambivalent towards their sport.

Speaker 7 So hockey, hockey fans have actually been pretty chill on that recently. There's not a lot of the please like my sport stuff going on.
But man, the world,

Speaker 7 it's not even like these people don't even care that much during Major League Baseball season.

Speaker 1 It was just so-and-so.

Speaker 7 It was just during the World Baseball Classic that everybody was like, you need to respect this tournament. And yeah,

Speaker 7 guess what? I'm telling you right now, don't get mad at me. You're right.
The tournament kicked ass. It was an awesome tournament.

Speaker 1 It did.

Speaker 7 But still, it did. But still, chill out.

Speaker 9 Just please chill out.

Speaker 7 Baseball season hasn't even started yet. Relax.

Speaker 1 Someone told me that this was more electric. This one game is more electric than the last 10 World Series.
I'm going to disagree with that. I really like the 2016 World Series.
Yeah. Personally.

Speaker 7 I love the 2019 World Series.

Speaker 1 Like, there was some pretty good moments. 2018 World Series.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Max, did you like the 2022 World Series? Fuck off.

Speaker 2 Fuck off.

Speaker 1 Set you up for that.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 here's an idea. I'll throw this out there.
Why don't they play 140 games Major League Baseball season, and then we can have a World Baseball Classic every year, and you can expand the tournament.

Speaker 1 I'd be down for that. That would be cool.

Speaker 1 I would be so down for that.

Speaker 7 You want to expand the tournament? Right now, we have right now, half the teams are filled with American players from AA baseball.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, we sent mechanics for pitchers. So let's just say there's an asterisk next to Japan's win.
But I'm saying expand the tournament.

Speaker 1 Like, if you had told me this was a three-game series or a five-game series, I'd be like, I'm in. No, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 I disagree. I love, I love the one-game format for a championship game.

Speaker 1 You would watch tomorrow night.

Speaker 7 Come on, it's so much better this way, though. Both teams empty the tank.
Shohei coming in to pitch the ninth inning.

Speaker 1 You would watch tomorrow night. It would be fun if it was a five-game series.
I would. Baseball's meant to be played in six.

Speaker 7 Now you're turning into one of those baseball people that's like stopped being a hater on baseball.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 more. I'm asking for more base.
I know.

Speaker 7 I love this format.

Speaker 10 The format's awesome.

Speaker 1 You don't get the same base. I'm not a baseball.

Speaker 1 Either way,

Speaker 1 we give two thumbs up to World Baseball Classic. Everyone can chill out.
You're coming at the wrong podcast because we actually made the conscious decision.

Speaker 1 We recorded the rest of the show around noon today. And we were sitting in the studio and we're like, should we wait till after the game?

Speaker 1 And we're like, you know what? We respect the World Baseball Classic so much. We respect Team USA so much.
Yeah, we're going to wait till after the game.

Speaker 1 We're going to record like this is an NBA playoff game or, you know, a Sunday night football game. That's how much we respect world baseball.

Speaker 7 We respect it so much, I didn't even tweet about World War II during the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you beat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you wanted to empty the clip. There were a lot of nuclear bomb jokes being thrown around.

Speaker 7 I'm not really prepared to

Speaker 1 think. Right.

Speaker 1 For the people listening, he just busted out a screen. I'm not candidly.

Speaker 1 And he told us before I got them all written here.

Speaker 7 I'm not prepared for doing these, but

Speaker 7 the U.S. needed to play small ball going base to base, or as we called it in the 1940s, island hopping.
Hey, you guys, if we wanted to shock Japan, we should have started Doolittle.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 7 The one thing I was really afraid of was Japanese sacrifice flies.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like that one. That one's the winner so far.

Speaker 7 Boy, boys, the Japanese really have great vibes in the dugout. All the fellas are cheering.
Even for Japan, that's a lot of raw men.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 7 One of my favorite behind-the-scenes guys must have been there because I heard one of the vendors yelling, Yoza.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 7 American pitching wasn't great. The U.S.
didn't have the flamethrowers this time.

Speaker 7 Where was Aaron Judge? Where was Garrett Cole? Where was Rizzo? We need more guys who worked on a Manhattan project.

Speaker 7 And then the Japanese

Speaker 7 Japanese fishermen dealt a crushing blow yet again in an area where the dolphins like to play.

Speaker 7 And now, back to Fat Man and Little Boy, aka parted my take.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 7 Good job. Those are all off the top of my head.

Speaker 7 That's what we call improv, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Yes, and

Speaker 1 all right. Anything else from World Baseball Classic? I don't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go ahead, Jake. Jake's going to be like, this was the most romantic game I've ever watched of baseball in my my life.

Speaker 2 No, it was obviously in my home team.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 10 Multiple people

Speaker 2 either sent pictures or texts saying that the part of my cheesesteak line was very long, but very worth it. It was in the concourse at the World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 1 Speaking of which, I also got, I've been getting a shitload of WhatsApp?

Speaker 1 Oh, Marlinsband. Text messages for Marlins Band.
Yeah. But I haven't updated my WhatsApp because I haven't been on a bachelor party in a really long time.

Speaker 1 That's pretty much the only time you update your WhatsApp.

Speaker 2 He said,

Speaker 2 show this to Dan, and it was just a video of World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Can you play it?

Speaker 1 Oh, that was awesome. That was a round that I scored at the World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 1 Hold on. I've just updated my WhatsApp.

Speaker 1 He sent me a lot of text. Damn.

Speaker 1 69 getting thrown out of the World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 1 That was it.

Speaker 2 That was it.

Speaker 7 I want to know how Marlon's man decides which app to use to message on any given occasion. Because I'll get a DM on Twitter.
I'll get a DM on Instagram. He's all over the place.

Speaker 1 He texted me saying, check the video I just sent you. And it was a video on WhatsApp.

Speaker 7 That's weird.

Speaker 1 I don't know. He's like.

Speaker 1 He's moving differently. You feel like a spy.
Like, go to the park and look under the the bench. He's doing dead dirty.

Speaker 1 You'll find a video of a guy in a 69 jersey getting kicked out.

Speaker 1 He's, yeah. And, oh,

Speaker 1 Wisconsin in the final four. That also happened tonight.
NIT, the most important tournament out there.

Speaker 1 Tonight was a big night for me of watching two sports games where I was like emotionally not going to be vulnerable.

Speaker 1 And then by the end, I was a little bit pissed about one and obviously happy the Badgers won where I'm like, don't do this to yourself. These games don't matter.

Speaker 1 And then, and then, when like Mike Trouch struck out, I was like, fuck, man, I really wanted a rally.

Speaker 7 So, I'm going to stick up for our guy, Jake, here, because he's been getting a lot of shit for having just a disaster of a bracket, just an absolute cluster.

Speaker 1 Not one region, correct?

Speaker 7 Well, he was almost close. And what region was that, Jake?

Speaker 1 The region where there were no upsets. Yeah, except for the best.

Speaker 7 But I'm going to stand up for Jake because he has been getting a lot of shit. He has almost a perfect NIT bracket.

Speaker 1 So he is very proud of it. He's the Badgers.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'm in first place in NIT Stu's celebrity region and fourth place overall out of 819 people.

Speaker 1 And you have the Badgers winning it all.

Speaker 2 Badgers beating Jelly Walker and UAB in the championship.

Speaker 3 And I had no effect. So I could pick.

Speaker 2 If UAB beats Vandy tomorrow, I'll have three or four of the final four in the NIT.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 All right, so we maybe just need to start, just forget the real tournament. Let's just talk NIT.
Hey, you're on the same train this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you think

Speaker 1 Shohei and Trout bust each other's balls?

Speaker 2 I think like after a week or so, like there's got to be a bunch of people.

Speaker 1 No, but even in general, like before. No.
Like even I'm saying like going into the game, like do you think they're boys or do you think they're just like...

Speaker 7 I think they're boys.

Speaker 7 It would be hard to not be boys with the only other good player on your shitty team.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah. You're like suffering together through all this.

Speaker 7 And you like he's the only person in the world that could possibly understand what you're going through because he's like the second best baseball player.

Speaker 7 And so you guys at least have a shared experience.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, I feel like Shohei Otani is like 10 times funnier than Trout. Like he probably has so much more personality than Trout.

Speaker 1 So I think Shohei might try to bust Trout's balls and Trout just sits there and it's like, can't wait for the Eagles season. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Honestly. That's just all going through his head.

Speaker 10 Honestly,

Speaker 7 good for Japan because I feel like they would have taken it a lot harder if they had lost than the U.S. did.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it was the most watched baseball game of all time.
Is that right, Jake?

Speaker 2 I think they were anticipating on that, but obviously it takes some time to get the numbers.

Speaker 1 All right, well, let us know because I want to know if that was

Speaker 1 four hours well spent or not.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I need to know that that will determine whether or not it was a good game, is how high the ratings were.

Speaker 1 But yeah, World Baseball Classic, two thumbs up. Maybe play it in the middle of the summer or something.
Maybe make it longer. I don't know.
But I liked it. When is it again? Four years from now?

Speaker 7 Four years, probably, yeah.

Speaker 1 So maybe every two years. That would actually get me a little more juiced up.
You should. Because I feel like I forget about it.

Speaker 7 They should do this for hockey. Yeah.
How sick would that be?

Speaker 1 Hockey would be awesome.

Speaker 2 Why doesn't baseball have a big presence in the summer Olympics?

Speaker 7 Well, they do play in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 Well, because it's in the summer.

Speaker 7 Yeah. No, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1 That's baseball season. Yeah, that's true.
But in the NHL, they pause.

Speaker 1 They don't anymore. Oh, okay.
They stopped doing that. They stopped sending our pros, which sucks.
I don't know why. Yeah, I agree with you, Jake.
The Olympics should have... Yeah.

Speaker 1 yeah make the world yeah instead of giving they gave them gold medals at the end didn't they they probably had some sort of award yeah yeah I think they got

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Okay, hot seat cool drones.

Speaker 1 Hank. My hot seat is Scotty Pippin Jr.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 Lakers? He's on the Lakers. I'm not sure if he's on the team or if he's on the G-League team,

Speaker 1 but his mom,

Speaker 1 Larsa Pippen, Larsa Pippen, formerly married to Scottie Pippen, came out with a clip that is going super viral saying she had sex three times a day for 24 years straight.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of fucking, but if you're on a professional basketball team, locker room talk, like that's just, that can't be fun in the locker room to have your teammates knowing that information and probably talk.

Speaker 1 And also MJ's son dates her.

Speaker 7 Yeah. That is tough.
Also,

Speaker 7 if you're a professional athlete and you're having sex

Speaker 1 three or four times a day,

Speaker 7 that's a lot of sex to be having.

Speaker 1 having that's going to affect your stamina isn't it wait it's not tough for mj's son why is it tough for mj's son

Speaker 1 oh to hear about larsa pippen fucking three times a day and knowing that you know four times a night four times a night and then oh that was three times a night yeah you gotta

Speaker 1 you got there's a big difference between three times a day and four times a night well we're we we are sex positive you can't celebrate uh Wilt Chamberlain and not also celebrate Larsa Pippen.

Speaker 1 So good for her. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you got, Billy? Billy, you got something, something just no, good for her.

Speaker 1 I'm pro. Like, it sounds awesome.
I'm saying if you're the son, like, you don't want that to be public. Yeah, it's tough for your mom to be like, I fuck all the time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Billy? And for MJ Jr., it's like, fuck, I thought two times a night was great.

Speaker 11 Depending on the definition

Speaker 11 of sex in her context,

Speaker 11 Scotty may have been only having sex once a night. That's a good point.

Speaker 7 I think that's what

Speaker 1 that makes more sense.

Speaker 7 Is she saying that she came four times a night? I think that's what she's

Speaker 1 Scotty does have good dick game confirmed. When does when does

Speaker 7 having sex when does having sex occur? When do you count it as one time? Yeah. I count it personally as every stroke.
So, yeah.

Speaker 1 I count it as every time I jerk off.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so I have sex. Usually, when I have sex, I have sex at least five times during one sex.

Speaker 1 Kissing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, kissing is sex. I thought that for a long time.
Really? Until when, 19, 20?

Speaker 1 Pretty much, yeah. No.

Speaker 7 That's how people got pregnant?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, probably, yeah, until I was like 13, maybe 14 health classes, oh. I also once smoked weed adjacent to Larsa Pippen.
That was cool at Super Bowl in L.A.

Speaker 1 She and Antonio Brown showed up, and Antonio Brown was like, we want to smoke weed at this restaurant. And the waiter was like, well, everyone's got to be cool with it.

Speaker 1 And we're like, yeah, we're cool with it if you just give us some. And he has a blunt roller with him at all times.
Got to. Which is a fucking awesome move.

Speaker 1 The woman was like, yeah, I'm Antonio Brown's blunt roller. You guys want one? I was like, yes.

Speaker 7 Do you think Scotty Pippen could have been having sex? Do you think he'd be better at basketball if he was having less sex?

Speaker 7 Or do you think he was so good at basketball because he was having all that stuff?

Speaker 1 Well, he did have back problems, right? That's true. Yeah.
Blew out his own pass. Yeah.
That happens. Yeah, it does happen.

Speaker 1 Okay, good hot seat.

Speaker 1 I thought your hot seat was going to be max.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 Sixers no longer breaking moves. Celtics do control their own destiny.
Yeah, Celtics or Sixers no longer control their own destiny. Playoff Hardenes.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 it wasn't that big a deal. Playoff was worried about it.
Playoff Harden showed up early.

Speaker 1 What happened? The Bulls beat the Sixers on Monday night in one of the worst games I've ever watched.

Speaker 1 I think they scored like 115 points in two overtimes, which is hard to do in today's NBA. It feels like everyone scores a million points.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Harden didn't have a good game.

Speaker 1 A really bad game. Yeah, really, really,

Speaker 3 really bad game. Embiid fouled out.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 3 spoiler alert, Sixers are not great when Embiid doesn't play. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I don't think

Speaker 1 he played like 45 minutes. Yeah, well,

Speaker 3 and he played well in those 45 minutes.

Speaker 7 So does that game against the Celtics become a must-win?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, Dance played the Bulls again on Wednesday.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, but that's also a must-win is the Celtics one that determines who controls their own destiny.

Speaker 1 But if they keep... Well, no, the Sixers no longer control their own destiny.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 7 What if they beat the Celtics, though?

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 they would have a tiebreaker. Yeah, do you understand how the lost column works?

Speaker 1 Apparently not. Yeah, clearly.

Speaker 1 And then my cool throne is 19-year-olds.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 The number one tennis player in the world right now is 19. Oh, who is it? Carlos Alcaraz.
Oh, yeah, that guy.

Speaker 7 Formerly known as Alcatraz on the show.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we talk about that guy like once a year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jokovich will probably whoop that ass.

Speaker 7 But is he next up?

Speaker 1 He's now. Yeah, Rafa.

Speaker 1 Rafa, I think, is out of the top 10 for the first time in like a billion years. They did the

Speaker 1 this is how long Rafa has been.

Speaker 1 This is how long Rafa's been in the top 10, and they showed like the video game when he first got in the top 10, and then today's video game. Yeah, I love that.
They don't have tennis video games.

Speaker 1 No, I guess they do. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 he was Mario in the first one, and he became Luigi in the second one.

Speaker 7 We tennis is the best video game of all time.

Speaker 1 We Tennis video game. Mario Tennis is a good one.
No, like, but like,

Speaker 3 yeah, with real people, there's WTA,

Speaker 1 2K, 23. Yeah, bro.

Speaker 2 They have good arcade versions, too. Like David Musters.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 What's better than playing tennis? Playing video game tennis. We tennis.
We tennis electric. It was fun, yeah.
Yeah, we tennis was fun. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I have another one, but I think someone else can use it. No, go ahead.
Go ahead. Slam ball.
It's best. Slam ball's back.
Slam ball's back. Officially.

Speaker 7 We did it. We brought

Speaker 1 credit to us.

Speaker 1 Credit to us.

Speaker 7 So, are they going to do a draft?

Speaker 7 Where are they getting their players?

Speaker 1 Probably Europe. Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, but like.

Speaker 7 No, Europeans would suck at slam ball. Are you?

Speaker 1 Do you want to play?

Speaker 7 I actually absolutely play.

Speaker 1 I don't. I think we can get you a tryout.
We can definitely get you a tryout. We can get you a tryout.
I feel like they're going to get basketball players who played college basketball.

Speaker 7 No, because remember we talked to the guy and he said that the best slam ball players are like defensive backs. Oh, yeah, true.

Speaker 7 So, Billy, you would actually be outstanding at being the guy that's getting dunked on.

Speaker 3 Would be a good bet.

Speaker 1 Well, no, they said defensive backs, not special teamers.

Speaker 7 That's true. No, but Billy, I can just see the clips right now.
It's a guy that's built like DK Metcalf. Yeah.
Just jamming on your face and you falling down. I would watch that.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I'd do it.
You think?

Speaker 1 That would be awesome.

Speaker 2 Talks are currently underway for distribution. Just saying.

Speaker 1 They're looking for a broadcast homes.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Just saying.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It'd be fun. Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank, can you get that done? C-suite, Hank. We can definitely get Billy a trout.
I think we got to see the product. Okay, all right, okay.

Speaker 7 Well, if Billy's exactly,

Speaker 7 the product exists.

Speaker 1 If Billy's in the product, you know how much it will suck.

Speaker 1 I also think, you know,

Speaker 1 who knows, but they might be like, you know, the slap league where it's like maybe too violent. And after the first broadcast, we can't do this.

Speaker 1 Billy, I want to see you on a slam ball court very badly.

Speaker 10 I've always wanted to do it. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Watching on Cartoon Network growing up was awesome.

Speaker 1 I had a trampoline basketball set up in my backyard. That's why I never went pro.

Speaker 7 Respectfully, Billy was kind of born.

Speaker 1 I spent too much time grinding on the trampoline. How many injuries? Honestly, none.
And I got launched. We had people get double bounced out of the trampoline.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I feel like any parent who buys a trampoline, they're just buying a broken leg for someone.

Speaker 7 Yeah, there was definitely fights.

Speaker 1 I got in like a fist fight with one of my best friends. Oh, no.
Really? Jumping on the trampoline. Like, I still laugh.
I can see that rage.

Speaker 1 We got heated, and then we'd like, you know, you know, when you get to that, cross that line of just like. Oh, we're really fighting.

Speaker 1 But we were on a trampoline, like, jumping.

Speaker 11 No, did you guys not have like fake cameras?

Speaker 1 Kenny just left and had to use my health in the trampolines with the nets.

Speaker 1 I wasn't going to.

Speaker 7 I didn't go to the trampolines that had nets on them.

Speaker 11 No, because we just pretend it was like a UFC ring.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I knew kids who did that.

Speaker 1 We had like a fight club, made videos on Google videos.

Speaker 7 It was like before YouTube.

Speaker 3 It was like only on Google. I wasn't in it, but I.

Speaker 11 Dude, we had a whole like league.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and there was like a broadcast and everything. It was so.

Speaker 1 Can we get our hands on that? Yeah, I can hit them. I can hit him by body.
Let's watch it.

Speaker 7 I feel like if parents get a trampoline, they do it just to be like, this will definitely get the kids outside of the house for a little bit. Yeah.
Just go,

Speaker 7 which will keep them in the backyard, keep them injured.

Speaker 1 The double bounce.

Speaker 7 I'm so scared of a double bounce. You guys ever played Break the Egg? When you had to curl up into a little ball and then people had to

Speaker 7 slam you so hard that you broke?

Speaker 1 Yeah. We call it popcorn because you had to pop.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I vividly remember getting double bounce, like

Speaker 1 of the trampoline and just landing on the ground and just getting up.

Speaker 1 yeah we have an end to this league because one of the investors is blake griffin oh okay okay yeah is blake gonna be in slam ball i don't know that would he still dunk no probably not yes he can

Speaker 7 okay pft your hot seat cool thrown uh my hot seat is nate oates yeah nate oates alabama's coach because nick sabin uh has just suspended freshman defensive back Tony Mitchell.

Speaker 7 He got arrested last week, drug and weapon charges in Florida. And Nick Sabin said, everybody's got an opportunity to make choices and decisions.

Speaker 7 There's no such thing as the wrong place at the wrong time. Seemed like a direct shot at Nate Oates for using the wrong place, wrong time excuse for Brandon Miller.

Speaker 7 So yeah, embrace debate. Is there such a thing as being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

Speaker 1 Airplane crash.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 1 That feels like not your fault.

Speaker 7 Yes. McDonald's drive-through at 10.31 in the morning, right after they stopped sitting breakfast.

Speaker 1 That might be your fault.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but it's wrong place, wrong time. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 The Archduke Franz Ferdinand making a left turn in 1914. Wrong place, wrong time.
Wrong place, wrong time. Who's to say? JFK.

Speaker 1 He's taking the top down that day. Apparently, it was coincidental

Speaker 2 that he said that.

Speaker 1 Oh, coincidental. No, it was very

Speaker 1 cadental.

Speaker 1 It was very cadental of him to do that. Uncoincidental.

Speaker 1 Uncoincidental because there, I mean, let's be honest, Nick Sabin, I don't think he's like furious at Nate Oates, but any microscope on Alabama sports and the police department and bad publicity, definitely he gets caught in the fray here.

Speaker 1 So he's sending a message that he runs his program. I run my program.

Speaker 7 I'm the king. Well, now we need to ask, is Nick Sabin in the wrong place at the wrong time being at Alabama when Nate Oates says that Brandon Miller is in the wrong place at the time? I'd say so.

Speaker 7 I'd say, man, wrong place, wrong time, seption on this one. Big time.
But yeah, it does feel, I don't think that Sabin was, I don't think it was a coincidence. No, I don't think that's a good thing.

Speaker 7 Jeff Sabin knows exactly what he's saying at all times.

Speaker 1 He doesn't seem like a coincidental type of guy.

Speaker 7 No, everything is planned.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's a process.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Part of the process. Also, hot seat, Steph Curry, because Corey Kispert, post-all-star break, post-part of my take appearance, is now averaging 11.6 points per game and shooting 56.4% from the field.

Speaker 7 Wow. Pretty good.
And 45% from three points. Hell yes.
After we told him

Speaker 7 just shoot the ball more. Shoot more.
My cool throne is hospitality.

Speaker 7 I don't know how we didn't talk about this a couple weeks ago when the news came out, but we should cover it because we are parverts, we're dimple heads.

Speaker 7 And Scotty Scheffler released his master's menu for the champions dinner. So Scotty Scheffler's Masters Champions dinner.

Speaker 7 Appetizers of cheeseburger sliders served Scotty style.

Speaker 1 He didn't elaborate

Speaker 7 on what Scotty style means.

Speaker 1 Imagine if he just licked all of them. Firecracker shrimp.

Speaker 7 Delicious. Tortilla soup.
Yes. Texas ribeye steak or blackened red fish.
Pussy if you get the red fish. And then for dinner, the warm chocolate chip skillet cookie.
So basically. Awesome.

Speaker 7 Scotty Scheffler has. He's got to have ice cream, but unbelievable.
I bet you that there's ice cream.

Speaker 7 There's ice cream. No one serves the chocolate chip skillet cookie without ice cream.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a scoop of vanilla on there.

Speaker 7 That's a la mode.

Speaker 1 But that was, in terms of masters menus, that was top-notch.

Speaker 7 He basically took a Ruby Tuesdays and then moved it to Augusta. Yeah.
Love it. Which, great job.

Speaker 7 And I've never been more convinced that a man has grown up around lots and lots of strip malls than after watching this menu.

Speaker 7 This is suburb city.

Speaker 1 I feel like the master's dinner is so overhyped for drama and nothing's going to happen.

Speaker 7 This year, it's.

Speaker 1 Everyone's like, oh, the master's dinner is going to be crazy. There's going to be

Speaker 1 a fake master's dinner that was going around that was like

Speaker 1 any live tour like dinners at the eighth hole at like nine o'clock. Being like, haha,

Speaker 1 they got them all outside.

Speaker 1 That's funny but yeah oh on the green yeah yeah i mean like is phil going yeah phil's gonna be there yeah uh it will be it will be interesting yeah patrick reed yeah some of the ninth green at nine thing yeah yeah yeah from uh hop gilmore yeah yeah classic yeah no it was yeah it was a fake menu going around yeah it was pretty funny also max got caught with a fake quote oh yeah bill simmons i said that quote he was like he was saying it was

Speaker 1 i was like obviously bill simmons would say that and then it was the most fake thing of all time yeah and and I know it's fake because Simmons then quote treated the fake quote being like, I never said that.

Speaker 1 Like, remember when Scott Van Pelk got caught by the onion? Mm-hmm. Yeah.
He was like, I never said that. It's like, well, yeah, of course.
If you look at the account, it's NBA Central. Ah.

Speaker 10 Instead of Central.

Speaker 7 You know what one gets me all the time? Is the PGA Tour

Speaker 1 T-U-O-R. Yeah, Erlacher got caught by the Orion.

Speaker 7 That was the one that Charlie Woods. They said Charlie Woods was going to be featured on next year's Drive to Survive.

Speaker 1 Yes. And the one that got hit with the Speeds ball, and he said he asked for 25 tickets of the match.

Speaker 1 You know what it is, though? It's actually not us getting caught. It's people tagging us.
Because I always get tagged in those, and then my instant reaction is to retweet it.

Speaker 1 And now I've started to slowly be like, all right, look at it for a second.

Speaker 7 No, that's what I'm saying. Like the PGA 2R one.
Yeah. That's the one.
I got tagged. And I look at it, I get excited.
Right. And then I'm like, well, fuck.

Speaker 7 They actually should have Tiger on the F1 Drive to Survive. That would be cool.
Just load him up. Yeah, with the SUV.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No rear mirror. Go off with it.
Window. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, just have Elon chasing him with a golf club. He'll win every race.

Speaker 1 Faster than anyone. Yeah, but Max.

Speaker 3 Yeah, sometimes you get caught.

Speaker 1 Notes app?

Speaker 1 Notes app? No.

Speaker 3 I'm not apologizing for getting caught.

Speaker 7 Max isn't a notes app guy. Yeah, no.

Speaker 7 Max is a double-down and triple-down guy.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 I've long said that if you are a creature of the internet, if you do a job like ours, if you're not getting caught at least a few times a year, then

Speaker 1 you're not doing your job. You're not working hard enough.
It also wasn't like a good thing.

Speaker 3 I wasn't happy about it. So it was a...

Speaker 1 Oh, now you're trying to explain. Just say you got caught.

Speaker 3 No, I got got, but I'm happy that I got got.

Speaker 1 But think about it this way because that was a bad quote for me.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's not true, but it's just a quote that hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 It does sound like something that the Sixers would do.

Speaker 1 I bet you someone in the Sixers' locker room has said, I can't wait to play the Celtics and lose.

Speaker 3 I have said the first part of what you just said.

Speaker 1 Also, I I do want to mention the Bulls finally beat Joel Embiid. That was pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 I was watching the Bulls telecast, but it was quite a stat when it was like Bulls now lifetime 12-1, or the Sixer 12-1 against the Bulls when Embiid plays. Tough.
Very tough.

Speaker 7 Do you guys think that in that vaunted matchup against the Celtics for home court advantage, if you guys win, do you think they'll drop Confetti?

Speaker 1 Oh, the Cannons will go off.

Speaker 3 I'm done hearing about Confetti.

Speaker 1 Your court is awesome, by the way. Yeah.
Sick court. Sick court.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Very sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 My hot seat. Don't you want confetti? I feel like that's the goal for every team.
Yeah, you should be at a game where you guys drop the confetti.

Speaker 3 I would like to win the game where you drop the confetti.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's the biggest issue.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or you could just do it when you go to overtime.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's another thing that could happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
All right, my hot seat is I mentioned him on Monday because he's become like the NBA's most hated player, but Dylan Brooks had

Speaker 1 he got denied a jersey swap with Kyrie Irving, which is very funny.

Speaker 1 After the game on Monday night, he took his jersey off, went up to Kyrie, and Kyrie was just like, no.

Speaker 7 I'm not like, I understand that from Kyrie's point of view. Yeah.
Like,

Speaker 7 you have to save those jerseys for people that need it.

Speaker 1 Also, isn't like if

Speaker 1 you're Dylan Brooks and you get Kyrie's jersey, isn't that like Tom Tom Segura owning Hitler's teacup? It might be. That might age poorly.

Speaker 7 It might be, but if I'm Kyrie, why is Dylan Brooks asking me to swap jerseys?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, he's, listen, Dylan Brooks, he got it, I think, his 18th technical of the season. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's become the new bad boy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I just think that you have to have more awareness of Dylan Brooks. You have to know that you're Dylan Brooks.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Kyrie was like, yeah, I already had like, my mind was already on the next game, the process.

Speaker 7 Kyrie probably doesn't want to get fined.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then, but it's just a bad look to be like, can you jersey swap

Speaker 1 and be denied? You have to know that you are.

Speaker 7 Did he already have his shirt off? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Kyrie already had his shirt off, but I think he either was holding it or gave it to his own teammate, like his staff. And then Dylan Brooks took his off and went up to Kyrie.
And Kyrie's like, nah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's a tough look.

Speaker 1 You got to know that it's going to happen.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you have to arrange that ahead of time, I think.

Speaker 1 Right. And then my cool throne is Roger Goodell, who is

Speaker 1 finalizing an extension. Good.
Congrats, Roger. Good for Roger Goodell.

Speaker 1 He actually, for everything that he is hated for, and he's hated for a lot, in terms of his actual job requirements, he does an incredible job.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's like he was designed in a lab just to absorb blows.

Speaker 1 It's absorb blows and make a shitload of money for the NFL, and he's done both like

Speaker 1 basically the best you could possibly do. He squeezed every dollar out of the NFL, and every time there's any controversy,

Speaker 1 you know, whether it be on the field, off the field, he just gets all the shit and the owners get to just keep making money.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he exists to take shots not only from the media and from the public, but also he has to just answer Jerry Jones' phone calls, get yelled at for a while, and then pretend those calls never happen.

Speaker 1 It is funny when he gets that extension and everyone gets upset and it's like, no, you don't understand his job requirements. He actually is awesome at it.

Speaker 7 Could you imagine if the NFL had a commissioner like the NBA does with Silver, someone who's always like tinkering? Best buddy?

Speaker 7 Yeah, trying to be best friends, trying to like read the NFL Reddit page and then implement rule changes. No, Roger Goodell is very good at existing and being an asshole that everybody hates.

Speaker 7 And he's compensated handsomely for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the point of Roger Goodell's entire existence is that everyone hates him, not the owners. Yep.
And he does it well.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 11 My hot seat is us. There's a new deadly fungus spreading, apparently.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 1 Yes. He feels like you're the most susceptible to this fungus.

Speaker 7 Is that what you have right now? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Your face looks great, by the way.

Speaker 3 Thank you.

Speaker 1 It's been a long road.

Speaker 11 Once I get out of it, I'll do a face reveal of the original picture? Yeah, it's just it's not funny to me right now.

Speaker 7 Yeah, once I'm able to laugh at it,

Speaker 7 are you currently out of the woods? No.

Speaker 11 Today's the first day I didn't take pretnisone, so we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 7 Okay, Billy came in in the studio earlier today, was like, I'm almost off steroids. Nice.
And I thought that I did not interpret it as Billy taking like medicine.

Speaker 7 I just thought that Billy was talking about steroids.

Speaker 11 Yeah, but everyone's just replaying the first scene of The Last of Us series and with the headline.

Speaker 11 But slowly you say, also, Hot Seat Jets. Why the hell hasn't it happened? Why hasn't Aaron Rodgers been signed yet?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah.

Speaker 11 And then Cool Throne, Hustle GPT.

Speaker 11 Apparently, it can tell you how to turn $100 into $1 million if you ask it.

Speaker 1 Huh. Did you ask it? Chat GPT, yeah.
Apparently it's

Speaker 1 TCU plus four and a half. Exactly.

Speaker 7 What did they say?

Speaker 11 Actually, I'm going to start getting gambling advice from chat GPT.

Speaker 1 Oh, you already broke Vegas. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 Are you just going to say you know how to make a million dollars and then not share?

Speaker 11 I'm just going to be like, hey, how do I choose the best March Madness picks? And then what do I do to win it?

Speaker 7 No, no, no, but you just said a second ago that it will teach you how to turn $100 into a million dollars.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You can care to share?

Speaker 11 Well, you got to ask ChatGBT.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a plus. I think Billy's got side deals going.

Speaker 11 I don't get a side deal.

Speaker 7 Why aren't you telling me how to make a million dollars?

Speaker 1 Well, he hasn't gotten it yet.

Speaker 11 I haven't gotten it yet. I didn't pay for for it.

Speaker 1 He needs like, he probably needs to. Oh, wait, you got to pay for it? What?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Billy needs like 100 people here to sign up, and then he needs 100 guys. To get them to 100 people to sign up, and then they're going to get Billy the million dollars.

Speaker 1 It'd also be funny if Chat GBT, like, you sign up for 100 bucks, and it's at you ask him how to make 100 to a million, and the answer is just don't sign up for random things online and invest your money instead.

Speaker 7 True.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And Laramie Tunsell.

Speaker 4 Dude just keeps getting paid.

Speaker 1 Good for him. Good for Laramie.
Yeah. He is.

Speaker 1 He's the coolest guy ever to smoke out of a gas mask.

Speaker 11 Without an agent.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 So it's like, does Lamar actually have a problem?

Speaker 1 That's a good question. I think Lamar's going to, I think it's going to go.
I think Lamar, we're not going to get anything until after the draft.

Speaker 7 He's going to just keep going. Lamar's also, isn't he doing an interview with himself? Oh, really? I saw that the other day.
Yeah, Lamar is going to do

Speaker 1 an interview with his agent. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would be interesting.

Speaker 7 He asks Agent Lamar Lamar questions. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But it does feel like it's going to wait.
We're going to wait to the draft, and then whoever misses out on a quarterback in the draft will then be like, okay, now we'll sign this offer sheet.

Speaker 1 Because also then you get to use your draft pick this year. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So I think that when he first became a free agent, it was the teams that would have been in contact with him would be the teams that really wanted him.

Speaker 7 And now it's going to be teams that don't have another option.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 2 My hot seat is Cinderella Fairley Dickinson. Yeah.
Their coach is gone.

Speaker 1 Gone.

Speaker 2 And a week ago, we saw him in the first four, and now he's gone.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 7 He's not gone.

Speaker 2 He's off to Ion alive.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's there. But yeah, it does kind of suck whatever that.
Yeah. It happened last year with Sheen Holloway.
Yeah. But good for him.
Good for Tim.

Speaker 2 Yes, and I'm sure we'll talk about the coaching carousel with Fanta later on. My cool throne is Kevin Harlan.
CBS dropped a viral video of his game-winning call.

Speaker 1 Perfect. Perfect.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you see, he went over to his partners.

Speaker 1 He's like, lay out. Lay his arm out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, flawless.

Speaker 1 What game was it for?

Speaker 2 Virginia Furman. Okay.

Speaker 1 Good job, Kevin Harlan. He was holding one of the best in the game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he was literally holding them back.

Speaker 1 He's like, you need to do that to me and Dave more often. I will.

Speaker 10 Well, during the big moments.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's all that matters.
Right. Yeah.
But yeah, Kevin Harlan is, he is, he's getting into like,

Speaker 1 I mean, he's almost GOAT status. Like every game that you hear him call, it feels like a big game.
Yeah, it's a big game voice. Yep.
So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I knew you'd love that.

Speaker 1 How many times did you watch it?

Speaker 2 I mean, there's, I think, like 4 million views on Twitter. I'm like 3.5 of them.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice, nice. All right, let's get to John Fanta, Johnny Fanta in studio, and then we have Damon John also in studio.
Great two interviews for everyone.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Johnny Fanta.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It's the first time on this show, but we've known him for a while.
He is electric. He is college basketball.
It is the one and only Johnny Fanta.

Speaker 1 John Fanta, you can find him on Twitter, John underscore Fanta. He covers college basketball on Fox.
He's also the Biggies guru. We have some people in this room.
We're very excited that you're here.

Speaker 1 Max is a Villanova guy. He loves Johnny Fanta.
Loves Johnny Fanta. Big Johnny Fanta guy.
100%. Johnny Fanta.
100%.

Speaker 7 Are we the only ones that call you Johnny Fanta?

Speaker 4 You know, my grandma did. Okay.
My grandma was Joni.

Speaker 4 And she would call me Johnny.

Speaker 1 She was Johnny Fanta?

Speaker 4 She was Joni.

Speaker 1 She was Joni Fanta. Yes.

Speaker 4 Wow. Yo, Joni Coglin.

Speaker 1 Okay, I I was going to say mom's mom. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So she would call me Johnny.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, it's a great name.

Speaker 7 Johnny Fanta just sounds like that's a person I want to tune in for.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Sounds like.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It sounds like you're a character from what was the singer from The Godfather? Was that Johnny?

Speaker 7 What was his name? Oh, I forget that guy's name.

Speaker 1 I know Johnny Ola, but the singer from Godfather won, that's what I always think of. But either way, you are electric, and we couldn't have had you come in on a better day.

Speaker 1 You are coming straight from Rick Petino's press conference, new basketball, head basketball coach at St. John's.

Speaker 1 First of all, I guess, how quickly did this get done? Because it felt like right after Rick walked off the court, Iona Yukon, he was texting Johnny Fanta like, hey, tweet it out. It's done.

Speaker 1 Tell us how it all went down. Well,

Speaker 4 there's no doubting that St. John's primary target was Rick Petino.
How could it not be at this point? You've been in the darkness forever. Right.
I mean, think about their coaching wave.

Speaker 4 Steve Lavin, who is a friend, did a great job with Fox on TV. Now he's at San Diego.
It just didn't work out on the sidelines. Then you go from Lav to Chris Mullen.

Speaker 1 Which should have been the prodigal son.

Speaker 4 That didn't work. Didn't work.
We know how the prodigal son thing works in college.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it doesn't happen. It didn't happen here.
So then they go to Mike Anderson.

Speaker 4 And as much as he had never had a losing season, he also had never really had the full breakthrough, and that didn't work either. So at this point, you need a winner.
You need to win at all costs.

Speaker 4 You are stuck in the basement of the Big East, or close to it, anyways. You're almost like in between when you're going up the basement steps and you get to like that halfway mark.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 That's where St. John's has kind of been.
It's like, when are you going to come into the kitchen for dinner? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, guess what?

Speaker 1 Rick Petino's kitchen.

Speaker 7 Rick Petino's coming in the kitchen.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 4 They're in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 Facts. Be careful.
He's going to get you on a call. Come over.

Speaker 7 I mean, you started it right right off the bat. The first thing you said when you sat down was,

Speaker 1 we went to the house. Johnny Death is now regretting coming in this studio.

Speaker 7 The first thing you said was, we went to an Italian restaurant right afterwards.

Speaker 1 So you got me all wound up over here, Johnny. Yeah, he's hot.
Oh, man.

Speaker 4 Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 They targeted Rick Petino and

Speaker 4 Father Shanley at St. John's.
Here's where we get into the big east, the priesthood. Yes.
You know, the Catholic religious. This conference was built on meatballs, prayer,

Speaker 1 and hoops. Yeah.
Oh, I like meatballs, prayer, hoops. That's a great big.

Speaker 1 I would also

Speaker 7 add superstar coaches to it.

Speaker 4 Big name.

Speaker 7 Super Steve has always had the best coaches in basketball.

Speaker 4 Yeah, big name coaches, big brand coaches. Rick Petino being one of them.
He was at Providence with Billy of the Kid Donovan in the 80s and all that. So

Speaker 4 the whole premise of this goes back to

Speaker 4 you need to find a winner.

Speaker 4 Father Brian Shanley is the president at St. John's.
Shanley hired Ed Cooley to Providence.

Speaker 4 But at that time, he was thinking about hiring Rick Petino to Providence.

Speaker 4 So Shanley has always had Petino on his mind, Petino being a Providence guy. So ironically enough, as the waves change, Shanley ended up having his term as president of Providence end in 2020.

Speaker 4 He takes a St. John's president job, so he inherits Mike Anderson, but Shanley built Providence College.
He helped build it with Cooley.

Speaker 4 The facilities, the brand recognition. So now at St.
John's, he's like, I'm tired of losing. So where am I going to go? He had a phone call with Billy Donovan.

Speaker 4 Billy Donovan told Shanley, and Shanley said this at the press conference, Father, You've got to hire Rick Petino if you really want to turn St. John's around.
Yes. And that's what happened.

Speaker 7 So how is he going to solve the big problem that St. John's has, which is recruiting kids to come play in New York City? So I've never really understood why that's an issue.

Speaker 7 It seems to me like, or it used to seem to me, like it would be a big attraction for people to want to play,

Speaker 7 not only in the Big East, but in New York. But then you start to think about it, being a college kid in New York, maybe not as nice as going to another school.
You're getting more NIL money.

Speaker 7 Your money goes a little bit further. It's an expensive place to go to college.

Speaker 4 It is an expensive place to go to college.

Speaker 7 So how do you solve that?

Speaker 7 How do you get kids to want to come play in New York City?

Speaker 4 By showing them that you will win no matter what. And Rick Pettino will.
Rick Petino will win. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And by showing them that you can get them everywhere that they want to go because you've done it with everybody. And it's not just messaging.
It's not just, well, we play at Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 4 Well, you played there four times this past year. Like, let's face it, it's not like it was your second home.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 So now that's going to change. MSG will be hosting more St.
John's games.

Speaker 1 Ooh, is that you thinking it? No, that's happening. Oh, okay.
I like that.

Speaker 4 St. John's is going to call the garden its second home again.
Madison Square Garden will be a sea of red in January or February when teams are coming in.

Speaker 4 No longer will it be a Villanova home game in New York or a UConn home game in New York. UConn fans will fill it up, but you're going to see a real battle now inside the mecca.

Speaker 4 Petino is, he has gotten the commitments from the leadership at St. John's that previous coaches could not get.
Why? Because Rick Rick Petino, as much as he's a great basketball coach,

Speaker 4 he is a deal maker.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, okay, I'm fired up right now for St. John's.

Speaker 1 What do you think realistic goals here are? Like, what, Rick Petino, check him off. When does he have to be back in the tournament? Is it next year?

Speaker 1 Is he going to make this a winner right now?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 I think, and we can revisit this a year from now. I think they will have found a way to make the NCA tournament.

Speaker 1 Look at the the bubble.

Speaker 4 Like, let's be honest here. Did you watch the Arizona State Nevada game?

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 If that's your last four in, let's face it, I'm betting on that guy in a Big East program where in the transfer portal, if Kansas State and Missouri could do what they just did this year, why can't Rick Petino do it at St.

Speaker 4 John's in the Big East? Now, it's going to be tough because you know you got to go through. Like, Marquette's going to bring everybody back.
So they're going to be like a top five preseason team.

Speaker 4 I think people will be surprised to see that, but that's going to be the case. UConn's really good.
Creighton doesn't slow down.

Speaker 1 Sean Miller's.

Speaker 4 Sean Miller's got Xavier cooking now.

Speaker 4 But I still, I really think it's an honest expectation that you could see St. John's ranked next season,

Speaker 4 and I think they will make the NCA tournament.

Speaker 7 I really believe that. It's like what Deion said at Colorado.
Rick Petino's, he's bringing the luggage with him. He's Gucci, right?

Speaker 7 Is he bringing the, do you think anybody on Iona is going to play for St. John's?

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, it's certainly possible.

Speaker 4 Every coach seems to bring people with them.

Speaker 4 I don't know anything for a fact, but I'd be surprised if he didn't attempt to. I think for him, this move was about, okay, I'm making the tournament at Iona, but I'm in a one-bid league.

Speaker 4 Wait, you're giving me a chance to be in like a six or seven-bid league?

Speaker 4 I'm making the tournament in that because he believes he's the best coach in the league, which, look, I'm going to bet on him over anybody else.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 he knows that because of the nature of the portal, whether he brings kids from Iona with him or not, he can go get a power conference cast off who needs a second chance and who wants to be coached by a Hall of Famer, and he could make that kid a star.

Speaker 1 All right. So another question.

Speaker 1 Is this forever home? Is this Rick Petino is here for the next five to 10 years, however long he wants to coach? He's not young.

Speaker 1 Or is this Rick Petino, St. John's, go to the tournament a couple years? Ooh, a big-time school now asks.

Speaker 4 If that big-time school is asking, I guess my question to that big-time school is: okay, you're big time.

Speaker 4 Why are you now relying on a 75-year-old for like three years? Right.

Speaker 4 To me, this is the last stop.

Speaker 1 This is the forever home.

Speaker 4 This is the forever home. Iona was not.

Speaker 1 Right. No, no, it was clear Iona was not.

Speaker 1 Now, this is a tough one. Let's say Rick Petino stays at St.
John's for eight years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Final four?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh,

Speaker 1 I like it, Johnny Phantom. College basketball is a better sport when Rick Bettino's at the top tier.

Speaker 4 I just think the climate of the sport, the ability to turn over your roster quickly, when you have someone who's always going to have his team ready, they play harder than everybody. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like they play. The fact that they were up on UConn at the half on Thursday,

Speaker 4 did you hear him at halftime? He's like, I'm so proud of my team. In other words, he's like, we should not be winning this game.

Speaker 1 And we are.

Speaker 4 Now, at St. John's,

Speaker 4 if you're telling me I get a Hall of Famer who has not lost his fastball,

Speaker 4 he is readapted and reinvented and just he's like a fine wine and it fits in New York City.

Speaker 4 If you're telling me I get him for eight years in New York City playing home games in Madison Square Garden in this Big East, yeah, why the hell not?

Speaker 4 Rip Petino in the Final Four will happen at some point again before he calls it quits.

Speaker 7 Love it. Now, what about the other side of the game of musical chairs in the Big East? You're going to Georgetown tomorrow, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Ed Cooley, I think it's a home run hire. I think that Georgetown, they're a sleeping giant.
They need a guy that has demonstrated that he can do it before.

Speaker 7 Like, I thought John Thompson III was a great coach. Sometimes when you get the same guy in the same place for a while, the message starts to fall on deaf ears.

Speaker 7 You get these interpersonal relationships that get in the way of on the court. Patrick Ewing was a big swing.
It took a swing. It was a swing and a miss.
But Ed Cooley, he's a proven guy.

Speaker 7 I feel like Georgetown could also be in that Final Four discussion in the next six years, too.

Speaker 4 I think that that's why Ed Cooley is the coach at Georgetown.

Speaker 4 I mean, at the end of the day, everybody's reading Twitter and people are making their theories and all that. We love, we, you know, everybody loves all that.
It's noise, it's buzz, it's chatter.

Speaker 4 Ed Cooley is the coach at Georgetown University because he believes that Georgetown resurrecting the program, bringing the brand back to the top of college basketball,

Speaker 4 winning NIL resources,

Speaker 4 the priority of hoops there, and the donors in the district area. And if he can get them to a final four,

Speaker 4 he goes beyond the king of Providence.

Speaker 4 He turns into, even though he's a villain in Providence right now and probably will be for quite some time, he goes into a national legacy if he can get Georgetown to a final four.

Speaker 4 This matters too, as a guy who idolized John freaking Thompson, who's a legend. Ed Cooley, being a black coach, has been an activist in that space, and

Speaker 4 that matters to him. Because if you're the coach at Georgetown, it goes beyond basketball, guys.
It does. It's a bigger, bigger than basketball type of job.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, and $5 million a year.

Speaker 4 And a nice paycheck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's just at least say that part because he did get more money.

Speaker 4 He did get more money.

Speaker 1 Now, Providence offered a comparable thing. It was less.
Well, is comparable $500,000 less? I don't know. I'd say it's comparable.

Speaker 7 It's a $4.5 to stay at home, and he's a Providence guy, right?

Speaker 4 Wouldn't you argue that at that point, when

Speaker 4 Providence owed him over $30 million?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 So at what point do you say with 500K, like...

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess it's probably more the NIL and the you put it when we were walking down the hallway perfectly. It's

Speaker 1 if Georgetown has their best possible season and Providence has their best possible season, which team is probably going farther? It's Georgetown.

Speaker 4 And which team is getting noticed more nationally? Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I hate to say, look, I love Providence fans.

Speaker 4 They're the best. They're the best.
They're the best. I never have to pay for a meal on Federal Hill.

Speaker 1 I hope that that still stands. Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 4 You don't know.

Speaker 1 Well, I heard that you were the one who got Ed Cooley to Georgetown. No.
Oh, I heard you wheeled and dealed it.

Speaker 4 Are you telling me that I have to go to Chicago to cover a DePaul game to get a free meal? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. You come.
When we move our office, you're always welcome.

Speaker 4 You went to All State Arena one time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That was not nice. That was not nice.
All-State Arena where DePaul used to play, and also the Sky Champions.

Speaker 1 Champions a couple years ago. It was next to a target.
The Wind Trust is really nice. DePaul

Speaker 1 needs a coach, too.

Speaker 4 Tony Stubblefield.

Speaker 1 I know, but

Speaker 1 it feels like, like PFT said, you now have big-time names in the Big East when it comes to all these coaches.

Speaker 1 Maybe Jay Wright.

Speaker 1 Jay Wright goes to DePaul?

Speaker 10 I miss Jay Wright.

Speaker 1 I also, here's one.

Speaker 4 Wait, how much is it now? Is that going to be the new thing? Oh, yeah. Is that going to be your video? Now, Patino settle in.
Is that your new video? Sometimes you have to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. It's Jay Wright.
Jay Wright's everywhere. He's going to be your new guy.
He's got to be the new guy. Well, here's a question.

Speaker 1 Providence, what I really want, I want a brother at Providence. I want a Hurley or I want a Miller.

Speaker 1 Yes. Archie Miller's already in Rhode Island.

Speaker 1 Let's have brother fights in the Big East.

Speaker 4 Brother fights. I mean, we're basically there.
Bobby Hurley in the Big East would be a dream. Because at Providence, at Providence, let's face it, Providence UConn fans, they despise each other.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Despise. So if you got brothers going at it and you've got Bob Sr.
in the middle being like Mother Nature and Heat Miser, Cold Miser. Yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, and listen, I'll settle for Archie. If you tell me I can't get Bobby, I'll settle for

Speaker 4 Archie. Miller time.
I mean, I like Archie. It was was a tough first year at URI.
It was a weird one.

Speaker 1 All right. So,

Speaker 1 one last question about the Georgetown job.

Speaker 1 You are an insider. You know every name that gets talked about.
Was Jay Williams ever considered?

Speaker 1 He was.

Speaker 1 I mean, he said that he would take the job. No, he was because he said, I believe the exact tweet was:

Speaker 7 since so many people are asking, I'll address it here.

Speaker 4 Oh, get up, more like get down.

Speaker 1 So he wasn't.

Speaker 4 Look, I love Jay Will. I mean, I don't know him at all.
He'll probably look at this and think, what does this guy think? I mean, who, you know, who's this Drew Carey?

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Jay Will.

Speaker 4 Jay Will, no hard feelings.

Speaker 1 Jay Will.

Speaker 4 No hard feelings. You were never going to be the coach at Georgetown.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, let's just call a spade a spade. What was that tweet?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 7 I think he just, I think he saw the potential of a job opening, and he thinks that it's like, it's good for his name, for his buzz to be linked to jobs. Or maybe he got hacked again.

Speaker 1 Remember, he got hacked when he reported that

Speaker 7 it was Eme Udoka is going to be the first African-American head coach for the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 1 Yo. And then

Speaker 1 everybody was like,

Speaker 7 Doc Rivers just won a championship there.

Speaker 7 And he was like, I've been hacked. I'm trying to find out who the hacker was.
So maybe he got hacked again.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So who else was being considered for Georgetown, if not Jay Will?

Speaker 4 I mean, I don't, I mean, Micah Shrewsbury at Penn State State's is being considered by everybody. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Although Penn State put out the report last week to John Rothstein that they're backing up the truck.

Speaker 1 Why not to you?

Speaker 1 Well, Happy Valley. Okay, all right.
Let's get some of those scoops too.

Speaker 7 Since a little animosity, John Rothstein.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. J.R.'s a friend.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 JR's a friend. I would share any meal with him.

Speaker 1 He's a friend of ours as well. Yeah, we love John.
Yeah, we love him though. But let's get some scoops out of Happy Valley for Johnny Phantom.

Speaker 4 We'd have to do some scoop and wet the beach.

Speaker 4 Don't they have a good ice cream over there? Yeah, they do. They claim that they're going to back up the truck for him.

Speaker 4 And at the end of the day, if you're Penn State, I know that basketball is not first, but do you really want to get him, like, do you really want to lose your coach to somebody that's not?

Speaker 7 No, they're in a weird position where Penn State is like,

Speaker 7 they're a big enough state school that's not good enough at basketball, so they are kind of a stepping stone job.

Speaker 7 But as far as university pride, you don't want to ever think that anything at Penn State is a stepping stone.

Speaker 4 Do you think that Micah Micah Shrewsbury and James Franklin get together for lunch?

Speaker 1 Can't be like, where are we going? Want to go to USC together?

Speaker 7 I don't think so.

Speaker 7 I think Shrewsbury probably wins like six games in a row, and then

Speaker 7 Franklin will be like, hey, congrats to the basketball team. You guys are doing good.
He'll do a little video, then go back to his office.

Speaker 4 Don't you love the

Speaker 4 coaches of other sports this time of year when they're at these games? Like Michigan State Izzo's just got a whole,

Speaker 1 you know, a whole entourage of people, of people behind him.

Speaker 4 And I'm curious, here's my question to you guys on this show. By the way, Cooley was the top target for Georgetown.

Speaker 4 They got the top target.

Speaker 1 Yeah, makes sense. Seems like both St.
John's and Georgetown got their top guy.

Speaker 4 Yes. Speaking of other sports, though, do you guys believe Nick Sabin

Speaker 4 ends up in Houston if Alabama reaches the final four?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Not after the comment of the, there is no wrong place, wrong time.
That was a message. He was sending a message to Nate Oates.
I believe that. I agree with you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wholeheartedly.

Speaker 1 I mean, it just, it wouldn't, like, it was very clear what he was saying because, and we were talking about it on the show, like that, when Nate Oates has that happen with the Alabama basketball program, it looks bad for all of Alabama sports.

Speaker 4 That's absolutely the truth.

Speaker 1 And Nick Saban doesn't like that.

Speaker 4 No, he doesn't. Right.
He's not. Nick Sabin

Speaker 4 is only ever. Nick Sabin is never going to look bad in Nick Sabin's mind and in the minds of everyone in Tuscaloosa.
Nick Sabin,

Speaker 4 except when he was on the TV desk during the playoff and somebody was talking about and he got kind of pissed off of that.

Speaker 4 But Nick Saban's anything that jeopardizes that is going to have Nick Sabin through the roof.

Speaker 1 Yes, I was a good job. And that did.

Speaker 4 That did bad look for Alabama.

Speaker 1 We all know that.

Speaker 7 A great message, too, which was by saying wrong place, wrong time, and then having everybody react to it, and then being like, I didn't mean anything by saying wrong place, wrong time.

Speaker 7 Now Nate Oates is like, oh shit, is Nick Saban living in my head rent-free? And I'm just imagining this entire thing. That's Nick Sabin with the ultimate mental power play on him.

Speaker 4 In other words, right place, right time for Nick.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 All right, so you're going to Las Vegas. Yes.

Speaker 1 Tell me that UConn can get to the Final Four because I have a future on them. What do you think in this?

Speaker 1 We'll go through each region, but what are you thinking in this region, which is UConn versus Arkansas and then UCLA versus Konzaga in the lower part?

Speaker 4 I think you could be jumping for joy on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You do.
I am doing. You do.
I'm very much too.

Speaker 4 I've been following you.

Speaker 1 I'm very much too.

Speaker 4 I think that you're in a position here. I think this has a chance to be your best second weekend of the tournament.

Speaker 1 Ooh, okay.

Speaker 4 Your performance metrics

Speaker 4 are on the rise. There's something to be said here, and you haven't peaked.

Speaker 1 No, I have not. I've yet to peak.
I've yet to peak. Is UConn going to be my peak?

Speaker 4 I think they can be.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And frankly,

Speaker 4 they're getting Arkansas. So Connecticut gets a draw.
What if I had told you, Iona and St. Mary's? Okay, you would have said beforehand, yeah, where do I sign? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay, and oh, I'll knock out Kansas for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Now, Arkansas, don't get me wrong, very talented. They're a top 20 metrics team.

Speaker 4 So they're not your typical eight seed. They're far from an eighth seed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Muss isn't, we love Muss. He is is a hell of a coach.
Love him.

Speaker 4 I'm wondering if Dan Hurley will take his shirt off if he wins in this game.

Speaker 1 Okay. Counter shirting.
Yep.

Speaker 4 But here's why I love UConn. Adama Sunogo is playing as well as any big man in America right now.
52 points and 21 rebounds combined in the two NCA tournament wins.

Speaker 4 Jordan Hawkins, in five minutes of the St. Mary's game, hit four threes.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he unlocks them.

Speaker 4 He unlocks them. When he's hitting threes and they're getting tempo, good night.
Because you have have to call timeout to stop it. It's like an avalanche effect.

Speaker 4 And then you pour in the Joey Calcaterra, Alex Caraban, the freshman. Last year, Connecticut's biggest problem was the ball would just stick.
They didn't have perimeter shooting.

Speaker 4 Dan Hurley was like, you know what? I've got these bigs. I've got Sunogo.
I know Klingen's coming in. I've got Andre Jackson to do all the little things.
I need some shooting. I need shot makers.

Speaker 4 Like Rip Petino just got done saying at his press conference, he goes, at the end of the day, right now in college basketball, I've got to find shot makers.

Speaker 4 And UConn has one in Hawkins, and everybody seems to benefit when he unlocks something from three. Everybody else plays with confidence.
So that's why UConn can do it.

Speaker 4 They've got to generate good tempo against Arkansas. Don't get stuck in the half court.

Speaker 4 But defensively, if they can contain Devo Davis and keep Ricky Council from having those spurts, Arkansas is a big spurts team.

Speaker 4 You have to avoid that patented 8-10-0 run where Muss is just going crazy and they're clicking on all similars. That's going to be a phenomenal matchup in Vegas to kick off Thursday.

Speaker 1 It's going to be great because I also think UConn,

Speaker 1 and like I said, I love Muss. So

Speaker 1 it's one of those things. I have a future on UConn.
If Arkansas ends up going to the Final Four, I'll be very happy for him.

Speaker 1 But I do think Arkansas, their strength is they want to go to the rim constantly. And UConn can actually defend that.

Speaker 4 They can defend that. UConn's going to try to shrink the floor and say, we dare you to shoot the three.
Now, does Arkansas have guys that can hit it? Yeah, of course they do. Of course course they do.

Speaker 4 They've got men.

Speaker 4 Their freshman class is beyond their years. So those are pros.
So it's going to be interesting because,

Speaker 4 to your point, Connecticut's the team that previously wasn't able to beat teams in a game on the perimeter, that gets decided on the perimeter.

Speaker 4 But Hawkins is playing like a top 20 pick in the NBA draft right now.

Speaker 4 So if Tristan Newton plays well for UConn and they can negate what Davis and Counsel do, look, I love Arkansas. I really do.
And you just said it.

Speaker 4 If they made the Final Four, their fan base in Houston would be something to behold.

Speaker 4 But UConn, as a storyline, is very buzzworthy, but the play on the court speaking for itself right now. They have it going.

Speaker 4 And that's why I give them the edge over Arkansas because of their ability to protect the rim and because Sunogo can say the front court is mine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like it. I'm pumped up.
I'm ready for this game. And then the bottom of that, though, Gonzaga and UCLA, those two teams are very, very good.
Gonzaga, I don't understand.

Speaker 1 It feels like people aren't talking about it enough, but they are, when they get humming,

Speaker 1 you can't really stop them.

Speaker 4 No, you can't. You cannot stop Drew Timmy.

Speaker 4 And when he gets help from a Robin, typically it's been Julian Strother,

Speaker 4 who I think is the key to this game because of Jaime Hawk is on the other side. But Gonzaga just showed it against TCU.

Speaker 4 When they get going with their tempo, when they're stringing baskets together, they are a dangerous, dangerous team.

Speaker 4 But how about the fact that we get Gonzaga and UCLA 17 years to the day of, oh, what a game! Oh, what a game. UCLA!

Speaker 4 When the Bruins came back from 11 down against the Zags and beat them.

Speaker 1 Morrison crying. Yeah.
What's that? Morrison. Morrison crying.
Bingo. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And now Morrison will be doing radio for Gonzaga.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a friend of ours. He's the best.
He's great.

Speaker 4 He is. He's awesome.
I'm curious to, how many times does the TV camera take him on Thursday night?

Speaker 1 Over under three and a half.

Speaker 7 On him or the over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, over, definitely.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. Over.
Because he'll come back. They'll do a story like on his mom.

Speaker 7 They'll do like three shots in the second half, bro. Yeah, especially if it's a close game.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And a rematch with the Buzzerbeater two years ago. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And the Buzzerbeater two years ago. So these two teams have a lot of history.
High-intensity game. Guys, I love UCLA.
I love them.

Speaker 7 Even with the injuries.

Speaker 4 Even with the injuries. Jaime Jakez is the biggest winner in college basketball.
He's a winner in every sense of that word. Tiger Campbell initiates, he stirs the drink for them.

Speaker 4 I love the way that they are playing. I'm going with the Bruins because they're defensively.
I think they're in line, even without Clark. And to me,

Speaker 4 as good as Gonzaga is,

Speaker 4 I don't trust their back court. And I do trust Tiger Campbell.

Speaker 7 All right. So you want to kick it to the other games? We've got Michigan State, Kansas State.

Speaker 7 I love Noel, mostly because he's short and because he's just electric. Like his passing, his driving.
He's the guy that stirs the drink on Kansas State for sure.

Speaker 11 Yes, he does.

Speaker 7 And so going up against Izzo, Izzo, we talked on Monday's show about just how dangerous Michigan State always is, especially when they're not the highest seed.

Speaker 7 So I'm excited for this game, but I feel like nothing's getting in the way of Tom Izzo right now. Noel is going to try, but I still love Michigan State in this one.

Speaker 4 I really badly want to go with the kids from Harlem.

Speaker 7 Mr. New York City.
Mr.

Speaker 4 New York City. Because I thought Kentucky played well enough.

Speaker 4 Like, if you were Cal on Sunday, you had to be really pissed off to the point of, man, I really did design a game plan that could have been fit to win.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I thought, I mean, Kentucky was up by four inside four minutes to go. I thought they were going to win.
Yeah. Noel just took the game from them.
He said, I am not leaving here without a dump.

Speaker 4 And I love the that they're playing,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 4 I cannot bet against a man who the last two times he's been in the second week and he's made the final four.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Who in 28 years at the helm, he's made the second week in the NCA tournament 15 times. So he's betting over 50%

Speaker 4 on making it to the Sweet 16. I cannot bet against a man who's got Tyson Walker, who's got A.J.
Hogard, who's got Jade Nakens playing well. And Joey Hauser is the Brady Manic of this NCA tournament.

Speaker 1 Who

Speaker 1 should have gone to Wisconsin? Should have transferred to Wisconsin. He should have.
I DM'd him

Speaker 1 when the Hauser brothers were leaving Marquette. They didn't answer.

Speaker 4 It's bullshit. Are you still waiting?

Speaker 1 I'm still waiting.

Speaker 1 Maybe you have a year left? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 He might. He's a year left.

Speaker 1 Drew Timmy has a year left.

Speaker 4 I mean, it hit me a couple weeks ago when I was

Speaker 4 doing Big East awards at the garden, and Jack Nungie of Xavier is a really good player, except scholar athlete of the year, and he walks up to the pony and he goes, I really want to thank my wife.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 This is the world that we're living in. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yes. Joey Hauser should not have another year of L Sports.
But he might.

Speaker 4 What if he answers you after?

Speaker 1 And he's like, okay, I'll think about it. After he declares sixth year

Speaker 7 at Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 Joey Hauser.

Speaker 7 So with Izzo, I feel like great coaches.

Speaker 4 I'm going with Michigan State, by the way.

Speaker 7 I feel like great coaches are always, if you're running up against a team with the hottest player in America, if that's your best player and your offense runs to that one person, I'll take a great coach figuring out a way to hold that guy or to contain that one player.

Speaker 4 You're right, because he did it with Tyler Kolick.

Speaker 1 Tyler Kolick was on a roll for Marquette.

Speaker 4 Two early fouls and then seven points in that game. Tyler Kolick scoring seven points, being held to single digits.
I mean, Izzo said, I'm going to take Marquette's best player.

Speaker 4 I'm going to take the Big East player of the year, Biggie's Tournament Most Outstanding Player.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take him away.

Speaker 4 And it works perfectly. And I think because of that scheme, it can work with Noel.
But not only that, just Michigan State

Speaker 4 is getting

Speaker 4 front court play that suffices as opposed to what they were getting earlier this year. Maddie Susoko has been better.

Speaker 4 Cooper has given them some solid contributions. So for Michigan State, they've just, they've come into form.
It took them some time.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 they're a team with

Speaker 4 quite the season arc. I mean, let's face it, they went through injuries.

Speaker 4 malik haul is now back you know you go through a an on-campus tragedy like they had they're playing for that is tom is om izzo is michigan state university he is like if i said yeah you know the bonetti first person you think of yeah honestly i don't think i'd pick anybody over iszo no and that's one of the few times where the basketball coach even in 2023 comes ahead of everybody else yeah no it's true we were having a debate of whether or not michigan state is a blue blood and i think you've solidified it i think that i don't think that they're a blue blood I think that Tom Izzo is a blue blood.

Speaker 1 I like that. Cut him and he bleeds blue.
Yeah. He wouldn't like that.
No. Cut him and he bleeds green.
Joey Hauser does have another year. No, he doesn't.
Yes, he does. I just looked it up.

Speaker 1 This is an article from March 8th, 2023, so two weeks ago. It says, MSU for Joey Hauser says unlikely he'll return for another season.

Speaker 7 That's not a no.

Speaker 1 He said to Michigan State. Yeah, MSU.
To Wisconsin. Joey Hauser, yeah, on his potential for another year, says never say never, but basically says this is the last year in college.
I love it.

Speaker 1 I love that we get like this because part of what college, part of what people have complained about college basketball is that guys don't stay long or they transfer. Like

Speaker 1 having guys stay for five, six years, I kind of like it.

Speaker 4 So are you publicly inviting him to make a decision on your air?

Speaker 1 Yes, he can come on the show and declare for the Badgers one last year, one last ride. Unfinished business, Joey Hauser.

Speaker 7 But not if he decides not to. And he's not welcome on the air.

Speaker 1 Yes. I also don't know, like some of these guys, guys, like, Drew Timmy.
Drew Timmy does technically have another year. Why wouldn't Drew Timmy just go to like Arizona or

Speaker 1 UNC somewhere?

Speaker 1 I know that recruiting and like log jams and all that, but how fun would that be to be a guy who owned a small program and then gets to go to a big blue blood and then maybe finally get to a Final Four?

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I'm with you.

Speaker 4 Drew Timmy to me seems like a guy that 17 years from now, if he he was playing in a college basketball game, I'd be like, yeah, that's fine. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's been in college basketball so long, he's sworn twice on the air in the NCA tournament.

Speaker 4 The guy's been around for, yeah, I love him for the game. I love him for Gonzaga.

Speaker 4 He keeps them elevated. But you're right.

Speaker 4 Like, what if you wonder if the thought ever crosses his mind, hey, I'm going to go to UCLA or, hey, I'm going to go to an Arizona and I'm going to win the national championship there and I'll go down a hero there.

Speaker 4 Right. Now, this is almost like NBA debate now.
Like,

Speaker 4 what does a title mean?

Speaker 4 If you ever won the title at Gonzaga, it would be like the Cavs in 2016.

Speaker 1 It's worth more than one. That's true.
It's worth more than one. Oh, yeah, I forgot you're a LeBron fan.

Speaker 4 Cleveland sports fan.

Speaker 4 Cleveland sports fans.

Speaker 1 Okay, so no longer a LeBron fan. No, he's a Laker.
Okay, all right, good. Good answer.
Good answer.

Speaker 4 I don't follow players.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good answer. Johnny Finn.
Did you like our interview with Kevin Stefansky?

Speaker 4 Great stuff. Yeah, he's a good guy.

Speaker 1 Sparks Stefansky.

Speaker 4 He's going to get it going in Cleveland. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's going to run the damn ball.

Speaker 7 If he runs the ball, it is the Browns.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I think Kevin Stefanski is a great coach, but there are some teams. My own team, the Bears, are the same way.
Like,

Speaker 1 you could have the best coach in the world. The organization still can fuck up.

Speaker 7 If you were to power rank your third.

Speaker 4 Pass completed for 13 yards for a Pittsburgh Steelers first round.

Speaker 1 Browns number one?

Speaker 4 Yeah, Cleveland, football town, heart and soul, heartland of America, 6 a.m., muni lot, beers,

Speaker 4 fun, pancake, sausage. It's Cleveland Browns football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love it. Cleveland Browns football.
Browns,

Speaker 4 baseball's actually second.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
I need

Speaker 1 our guardians. Sorry.
Have a very fun team. Fun.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Loved Jose Ramirez and Terry Francona.
Please just stay healthy, Tito. You have the job forever.

Speaker 4 And then Cavaliers. I mean, I love all three teams, like your children.

Speaker 4 I really do.

Speaker 4 But football comes first in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 Facts are facts.

Speaker 1 Back to the tournament. Is it Alabama's tournament to lose at this point? Because it feels like their region, especially, they should be in the final four.
They're the most talented team.

Speaker 1 They've been the the most talented team all season. What trips them up besides the Rico Bosco mush?

Speaker 1 Because that could happen.

Speaker 4 So, on their side of the bracket,

Speaker 4 and I mean on the total side between

Speaker 4 the south and the east, there's nobody there that I think can pull it off. Really, there's nobody there.

Speaker 4 The interesting team I would say this weekend for them is if they were to draw Creighton in the Elite Eight, just because Creighton was a preseason top 10 team, but guys, they played like it last weekend.

Speaker 4 They beat Baylor by nine. It was never in question.

Speaker 1 It was never.

Speaker 4 I was surprised.

Speaker 4 We've just become accustomed to seeing Scott Drew and the Bears kind of make some things happen.

Speaker 1 They got beat.

Speaker 4 Ryan Emhart had 30.

Speaker 7 They wore the wrong uniforms.

Speaker 4 I think they did.

Speaker 7 They should have worn the highlighters.

Speaker 4 They should have worn the Grand Canyon uniforms.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 That was a great story, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 7 You want to share the story? Yeah, you probably have some insight I don't have.

Speaker 4 No, I think you you have more. Okay.
You're on the tournament coverage. Like, you're doing a good job.

Speaker 7 Grand King.

Speaker 1 And Pete Dullum's still alive, right?

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay, good.

Speaker 7 But yeah, they forgot their uniforms, right?

Speaker 4 They forgot their uniforms.

Speaker 4 Well, the uniforms were not forgotten. I don't know if they were forgotten as much as they were.
There was an error in transporting them.

Speaker 4 So there's an error in transporting them.

Speaker 4 How does that happen? All the band, all the instruments for the PEP band got delivered, but the freaking uniforms didn't get delivered.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What?

Speaker 4 How does that happen? So, as a result, Grand Canyon is screwed, but Bryce Drew is the coach at Grand Canyon. So, he says to his brother Scott, I don't know what to do.

Speaker 4 You know, we're just going to wear some random t-shirts for our shootaround. So, brotherly love,

Speaker 4 he helped out Grand Canyon with some Baylor uniforms.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 7 Maybe those were the good uniforms that would have got him that dub.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 4 That's tough. Maybe once Grand Canyon wore them.

Speaker 1 Oh. Oh, they caught him.

Speaker 10 They put the stink on him.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 That was what it was. That's absolutely.

Speaker 4 Ferris went to the Grand Canyon.

Speaker 7 They got full-blown Grand Canyon. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, shit.

Speaker 7 They contracted it big time. That's tough.

Speaker 7 What about Tennessee?

Speaker 7 Because our theory on this show is that Rick Barnes is actually in the best position he's ever been to advance to this tournament farther than he's ever gone because there are no expectations on him.

Speaker 7 Yes. No one thinks that Tennessee is going to be a threat because the injuries.

Speaker 7 But now that he doesn't have the pressure of, oh, because if Rick Barnes loses on Thursday night, the storyline is not going to be Rick Barnes still can't get it done in the tournament.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 7 It's going to be, well, yeah, it was a banged up team. They were a flawed team right now.
So is this actually where Rick Barnes finally gets to a Final Four?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh.

Speaker 1 Johnny Vance is bringing the table.

Speaker 7 You know who we have futures on on this show, Johnny. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You're patronizing us. So, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 He's got UCLA, UConn, and Tennessee all getting to the Final Four, which is not possible. That's not possible.

Speaker 4 I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 That's not possible. And Purdue.
You've probably got Purdue.

Speaker 4 That's not possible. I've got UCLA.

Speaker 4 Screw it. I've got UConn making the final four.
I've got Connecticut making the final four.

Speaker 4 Tennessee, you know, I really look at the way that they're playing, and everybody's like, well, they're ugly. Yeah.
But in the tournament, that allows you to win oftentimes.

Speaker 4 So it's Virginia's scheme, and sometimes it backfires. But when it can click, it can work.
And right now it's working. Olivier Camois is on a mission.

Speaker 4 Santiago Vescovy, sometimes when you have two great players, like Vescovy and Ziegler are really good, and I'd rather have them than not.

Speaker 4 And sad that Ziggler's gone, but like Vescovy now is like, I know I have to do this for my team. Yeah.
So I'm going to just deliver. And I felt that against Duke.
Next to the FDU win over Purdue,

Speaker 4 that was the result I've been most surprised by.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 4 Because Duke had won 10 in a row.

Speaker 1 I know, they were hot.

Speaker 4 But I got bad vibes the moment that we heard Mark Mitchell's not playing today.

Speaker 4 Like, two minutes before tip-off, they found out I'm like, uh-oh, like, this is interesting here when you have a lineup change so late. Duke never clicked in that game.

Speaker 4 And Tennessee makes you uncomfortable. Tennessee should beat Florida Atlantic.
Let's call a spade a spade. They should beat FAU.
I like the story that Dusty Mays put up. Great name, by the way.

Speaker 4 It's just, it's going to end. I think Tennessee wins.
I hope that I'm wrong and that the Owls hoot on, but I like Tennessee. Hoot on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hooting on.

Speaker 7 But what I like about Dusty Mays is what he did after they won. He said, like, we're going to have to study some rugby if we want to be able to beat Tennessee.
Just putting it out there,

Speaker 7 letting the powers of the bee know, like, hey, you have to call this game a little bit differently than you called the game against Duke because they're going to come out.

Speaker 7 They're going to be throwing elbows. You know, Phil Jackson used to do that a lot.
He used to make the storyline about him talking to the refs before a big series or big game.

Speaker 7 Do you think that Tennessee is going to be officiated any differently in this game than they were against Duke?

Speaker 4 It depends on the crew. I mean, it really is crew to crew.
Every officiating crew is different.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 I mean, does FAU have staying power, though? Maybe they do by being just a random school.

Speaker 7 I think they got bad vibes, actually. They had great vibes until that last-second missed dunk.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bad vibes.

Speaker 7 That's a karma play. Put that, mark that down.
That's PFT's karma play of the NCAA tournament. That's going to come back to haunt them.

Speaker 7 Not the fact that Tennessee is a superior team with superior players and better scoring and better defense. It's the fact that he bricked that last-second dunk that's going to bite him in the ass.

Speaker 4 Are you also suggesting that had Coach K been at the game last weekend, that the officiating waste? He was there.

Speaker 1 He was in the building somewhere lurking.

Speaker 7 I think that Coach Kay.

Speaker 1 He was like staying up in the rafters. You know he was.

Speaker 7 I think after that brick dunk, Coach K wishes to God he had been there just so he could go down onto the court and say, hey, you're too good a player to be pulling a stunt like that at the end.

Speaker 4 Oh, that was a different game, but yeah, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Go into Tennessee's locker room and coach them up. Be like, listen, guys, I don't like how you played today.

Speaker 1 He would have done that.

Speaker 1 Never coach another man's team unless you're Coach K. He can coach anyone's team.
That's what he thinks.

Speaker 4 Do you think he'll coach again?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 But I would love to see him back out there because he's a nemesis that I'd love to have.

Speaker 7 Where would he go?

Speaker 1 Where would he go, Johnny?

Speaker 1 John, do you have sources?

Speaker 1 He's not coaching.

Speaker 7 That sounds like a question we would ask, and you're stupid as shit, and you're smart. So why are you doing it?

Speaker 1 It's not happening.

Speaker 7 Why would Johnny ask that question?

Speaker 4 It's not happening. I hope he coaches a grandchildren's game.

Speaker 1 That's kind of what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be great. I would root so hard, so hard against him in that game.
Well, how about that the current St.

Speaker 4 John's athletic director, Mike Craig, was his right-hand man. Remember, Coach K showed up to a game at the Garden a couple of years.
Yeah, yeah. Like in the regular season?

Speaker 4 So does Coach K show up for a Rick Petino game at the Garden?

Speaker 1 I would love that. Huh.

Speaker 4 Maybe he takes a half or something.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
And then in the Midwest region, which we have to talk about because they're really good teams, Houston,

Speaker 1 Kellen Sampson said it himself. He's like, a lot of times we just play like shit.
They're hard to watch, but man, do they just beat the hell out of teams.

Speaker 1 Like what they did to Auburn in the second half, that might have been the most impressive performance in the first round or first two rounds because they just killed them.

Speaker 4 They took them to the woodshed.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 they have

Speaker 4 a setup where they can ride somebody offensively in a half, like they did against Auburn, where it's not just Sasser, as good as he is. It could be a Jawan Roberts.
It could be Traymon Mark.

Speaker 4 They've just got dudes. And Sasser being good,

Speaker 1 huge, huge.

Speaker 4 Because if he's not good to go,

Speaker 4 then

Speaker 4 there's real, real concern. I give him a lot of credit.
When he said he was 100% for the game, I've got to be honest with you, I didn't believe a word of that.

Speaker 4 And I expected him to struggle because you got a groin injury.

Speaker 4 There's been no sign that you're okay.

Speaker 4 And he played through that, and they played through that. Their defense is relentless.
It's absolutely relentless. But hot take:

Speaker 4 Miami can beat them.

Speaker 4 And I'm going to be the one guy that picks Miami to win.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 Because Miami is a bad matchup for Houston.

Speaker 4 They're a bad matchup for Houston. Nigel Pack, Isaiah Wong

Speaker 4 can

Speaker 1 line it up in a second.

Speaker 4 They are both

Speaker 4 players who have spurred ability to a team. I'm talking, you know, in their first tournament game against Drake,

Speaker 4 it's Wong who comes, actually, it was Pack who came up big. In their second tournament game against Indiana, it's Wong who comes up big with a 20-plus point performance.

Speaker 4 To beat Houston, you've got to shoot over them some. You've got to make perimeter shots.
You've got to manage possessions. Jordan Miller is Mr.
Steady for the Hurricanes.

Speaker 4 North Cat Omir, on the glass, an elite rebounder, elite rebounder.

Speaker 4 Just sets the tone of physicality for them. So when you have a great backcourt, not a good backcourt, Miami's got a great backcourt.

Speaker 4 When you have a rebounder in Omir, when you have a coach in Jim Laranega who knows how to scheme and who's kind of taken on this role of a friendly grandpa to a point that his kids, I think, play well well for him because his whole demeanor is kind of settled.

Speaker 4 Like, Jim Laronega could say, I'm retiring right now. I'm going to go play golf for the rest of my life, and it'd be fine.
He doesn't have anything left to prove. He's done it.

Speaker 4 He did it at George Mason. He's doing it at Miami.
They've got the right vibe to beat Houston. And I am going to go out on a limb and pick them.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 Because I think I don't trust Houston's offense.

Speaker 4 And there's a reason why Auburn was up by 10 at the half. I don't even think that Auburn team was that great, to be candidly honest with you.

Speaker 4 So when they were up by 10 at the half on Houston, I'm sitting there saying, man, Houston really does have some issues right now. Like, NKU was giving Houston some issues in the first round.

Speaker 4 I'm going out on the limb. Miami makes back-to-back Elite 8s.

Speaker 7 Okay, as a Houston fan, you're out there saying, thank you, Johnny Fanta, because there will be a graphic that comes up

Speaker 7 that shows everybody picking Houston. Make sure to add, if they don't have John Fanta's pick on there, add it in in your brain.
Somebody did pick University of Miami. Thank you, Johnny.

Speaker 7 Thank you, Johnny. Now, you know that Daniel Holgerson will be at that Final Four if they make it there.

Speaker 1 We got to go to his house. Oh, yeah, for sure.
I totally forgot about it.

Speaker 7 Hank will stay over for six days.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Holgerson's a great guy.

Speaker 7 He's the best.

Speaker 1 Great dude. Wait, so is Miami in the final four?

Speaker 1 So right now, John Fantas picks. He's got Alabama in the final four.

Speaker 1 He's got Tennessee in the Final Four.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm going out of the land. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got Yukon in the Final Four. Who's your fourth Final Four team?

Speaker 4 Rodney Terry in Texas.

Speaker 1 Okay. I like that pick.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and that goes back to right now, Dylan DeSue is playing as well as anybody. I mean, in two tournament games, he's had 45 points and 20 rebounds.
He's on another level right now.

Speaker 1 And they have an all-time starting five team name guy, Serjabari Rice.

Speaker 4 Love Serjabari Rice.

Speaker 1 I mean, the best name.

Speaker 4 Who comes in off the bench. Yeah.
But has.

Speaker 1 But you need one of those guys on your team to make a magical run in the Final Four. Yes.
One name that everyone's like, whoa, Sergeabari Rice, that's his name? Okay, cool.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I just think, guys,

Speaker 4 that this team, this group of players, when the Crisp Beard stuff goes down,

Speaker 4 they had the personnel to get through that. There's so many other teams.
80% of any other team would have withered or maybe made the tournament and been a first-round bow out.

Speaker 4 This group has a dude in Marcus Carr who came to Texas for this chapter. This is why he transferred.

Speaker 4 They've got Timmy Allen, who I think is a guy who leads and a guy who steps up for them in different ways. Christian Bishop gives them a different look when he comes into the game.

Speaker 4 Another transfer came from Creighton. A lot of people scrutinized him for going from Creighton to Texas.
That's worked out. So I just like their makeup.

Speaker 4 I think that, and Tyrese Hunter, Tyrese Hunter went from Iowa State to Texas for this moment, for this moment with the Longhorns. They've got a group of, by doing the portal as much as Beard did,

Speaker 4 I think a lot of these kids have a common ground and they're playing hard for their guy and Rodney Terry, who, by the way, should be the head coach for Texas.

Speaker 4 Texas needs to stop thinking about what they're going to do, looking at what they're going to do. Could you imagine the confidence factor right now?

Speaker 4 Texas basketball, you ever want to win a national championship? Do you want to win one? I'd argue your chances are as good right now as they ever would be with Rodney Terry.

Speaker 4 What happens if Chris Del Conte, the Texas AD, says right now, puts out a statement or a tweet today or tomorrow morning and says, you know what? I've heard all the chatter.

Speaker 4 Rodney Terry's my head coach.

Speaker 1 If you're a Longhorns player, wouldn't you want to then just run through a brick fire? I don't know if you want to counterpoint John Calperry.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 7 No. To Big Cat's point, though.
No.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 11 in your line of thinking.

Speaker 1 No, he's giving me a list of the trends. Which is right.

Speaker 7 I think John's right. You're

Speaker 1 not aware of it from a

Speaker 1 lot of people.

Speaker 7 Like, logically, you are correct, sir. I agree with 100% of what you're saying.
But the reality at the University of Texas is it's not always the athletic director that's making that call. I know.

Speaker 7 It's the boosters that have their names on buildings and names on stadiums that are making that call.

Speaker 4 But what has Cal done in the last four years to make the donor that excited?

Speaker 1 No, not a lot.

Speaker 7 I don't think they know ball, though.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 7 he's a splashy name, right? And so if you're a big money Texas booster, you see Cal, you're like, oh, I recognize that guy's name. I want him.

Speaker 4 Look, would I love it?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. It's great for college basketball if we see some massive seismic move of John Calapari going from Kentucky to Texas.

Speaker 1 I would love it.

Speaker 3 I think it'd be buzzworthy.

Speaker 4 I mean, I wouldn't love it for Rodney Terry. I think he deserves it.
But, you know what? In this business,

Speaker 4 you think you could be handed something. That's not how it goes.

Speaker 4 Cal at Kentucky has run its course.

Speaker 1 It's run its course.

Speaker 4 You know, I think for both sides, it might be best for their best versions of themselves going forward to not be together.

Speaker 7 What about Calapari leaves, goes to Texas, Jay Wright to Kentucky?

Speaker 4 Well, that's going to be the theory every time.

Speaker 1 And Max's shaking his head, he's not happy about that.

Speaker 4 You're not happy about that?

Speaker 1 He wants Jay Wright back now. You want him back.

Speaker 1 Jay's not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 Jay Wright, think about Jay Wright's life right now.

Speaker 7 He retired.

Speaker 1 Well, you picked him up retired.

Speaker 7 He's retired from coaching.

Speaker 4 We know how retirement works around here. I mean, you can say you're retiring and then.

Speaker 4 So, Jay Wright right now, here's Jay Wright's life. Jay Wright gets to go to the city of his choice for CBS Sports.
He's typically going with Bill Raftery.

Speaker 4 And if he's not going with Bill Raftery, he's going with a big-time play-by-play announcer. There are many, whether it's Ion Eagle, whether it's Spiro Didas.

Speaker 4 I could go down the line with Andrew Catalon. And he basically is going into a town.
He gets to sit with the coaches and chat it up. He can go to dinner.

Speaker 4 And if he's with Raft, they can shut down the bar.

Speaker 4 And when I say shut down,

Speaker 4 Bill Raftery turns 80 in August. An ode to Bill Raftery for having the energy that he possesses every single day in college basketball.
The guy is still calling a million games a minute.

Speaker 4 He knows his stuff. His lines are good.
It's not stale. It's not.
And Jay Wright gets to live that life.

Speaker 1 He ain't going.

Speaker 1 He retired from the sidelines for this lifestyle. Yeah, but a counterpoint again,

Speaker 1 any of these guys who have had that type of success at that level, they miss it a little. The winning games.
Of course, winning games matters more than anything.

Speaker 1 There's no winner or loser when you're sitting on the desk.

Speaker 4 That's why I think a year from now, you got me thinking with Kentucky and stuff.

Speaker 4 I think a year from now, you'll see Chris Mack get back into college basketball coaching.

Speaker 4 He's been kind of quiet since the Louisville chapter ended.

Speaker 1 By the way, I do think Rodney Terry should be the coach of Texas. I just like to play the game of John Calapari going anywhere.

Speaker 4 I do, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And do you think that, so you, are you saying that he's officially on the hot seat?

Speaker 4 Next season, he's got to go on an NCA tournament run.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 So that sounds like a hot seat to me.

Speaker 1 That sounds like lukewarm seat.

Speaker 7 No, it's hot because if it was

Speaker 7 he's not getting fired right now, but the seat is heating up.

Speaker 1 But is the seat heating up now or is it heating up next year if he doesn't go on a run?

Speaker 4 So in my opinion,

Speaker 4 this is my logic with this.

Speaker 4 If you make the NCA tournament again next year and you have a one and done, or you win a game and then lose, you're now going on five consecutive years of no second weekend. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they're supposed to be Kentucky.

Speaker 4 They're supposed to be Kentucky.

Speaker 1 If

Speaker 4 you are the Dallas Cowboys, right, of college basketball.

Speaker 7 Are you not?

Speaker 7 Kentucky's won something recently.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but yeah, they're the biggest brand.

Speaker 1 Over a decade now. It's been a while.
It's been a while. All right.
What would you compare them to? Kentucky?

Speaker 7 No, I think you're right in terms of the brand. The brand is

Speaker 7 a flashy brand. And with Cal there, I think it even makes the brand.
It's under a bigger microscope with him, and he just hasn't got it done recently.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I just think it's under a bigger microscope in general. And when you don't go on second weekend, NCA tournament runs at a school like Kentucky for a half decade.

Speaker 4 At some point, we got to stop worrying about the number of stars next to a kid's name.

Speaker 4 That's not winning games in March. No.
This sport is different now. You have to crush the portal.

Speaker 4 You have to figure out a way through NIL, not just dropping bags, but figuring out a way to both drop bags and to make it work for your locker room.

Speaker 4 This Kentucky team this year was proclaimed to be a national championship contender. And I know Carolina's sitting at home, and they didn't even make the tournament.
But you know what?

Speaker 4 They made the national championship game a year ago, right? When nobody expected them to. This Kentucky team was supposed to be a team that could, at the very least, be sitting here.

Speaker 4 At the very least, be sitting here in the Sweet 16. And the fact that they go home to Kansas State, who was picked dead last in the Big 12 preseason pool, that's sour.
Again, it stings.

Speaker 4 It's nothing against Cal personally. It's just a fact.
Kentucky basketball has underperformed now for several years in a row.

Speaker 1 I like the fire. And I mean, listen, we have a lot of fans of Kentucky.

Speaker 1 We get to host Matt Jones' show every year.

Speaker 1 He's been on our hot seat for like five years. So maybe we are actually the true Kentucky insiders.

Speaker 4 You guys are. And you know what?

Speaker 4 Big Blue Nation is awesome. They're an awesome fan base.
But Big Blue Nation, isn't your expectation level high?

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah. I actually think that the people from Kentucky will get mad at us for this segment, not because we're putting Cal on the hot seat, but because we didn't go far enough.

Speaker 7 And say, like, I think that if you ask like a true blue Kentucky fan, they want him gone yesterday.

Speaker 4 They're done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are done.

Speaker 4 So who would you hire at Kentucky?

Speaker 7 Rick Petino.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Rick Petino. Rick Petino.

Speaker 7 Rick Petino gets a call in two weeks from Kentucky. Sometimes you got to go home.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to lie. That would be the most St.
John's thing ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be. That'd be very jets-less.
It would. Yes.

Speaker 4 Yes, they are a New York sports team.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Rick Petino writes it on a little cocktail napkin.

Speaker 1 What if Kentucky hired Jim Bayheim?

Speaker 1 Good laugh for the boys.

Speaker 4 Breaking.

Speaker 1 Jay Williams. Yeah, Jay Williams, being considered.
All right, well, I have one last question. Johnny Fitz, this has been awesome.

Speaker 1 Great to have you on. We're going to see you in Houston.

Speaker 1 You're going to be invited on Barstool Live from Kirby's Ice House. I think Dave's going to go after you for your coolie water

Speaker 1 holding, carrying. Yeah, it will happen.
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Speaker 1 Code audio at checkout. So who's cutting down the nets? The last team? Give us your national champion.
Also, Wisconsin's still alive in the NIT if you want to just pick them.

Speaker 4 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Let's see here. Are you going to stay out in Vegas for the NIT?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 I'm not doing that. Oh, come on.
I'm going to come back to Jersey.

Speaker 1 It used to be the real national championship. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, in that regard, good luck to your Badgers.
Thank you. But, man,

Speaker 4 my national champion. No, don't do it.

Speaker 4 My national champion

Speaker 4 is the Connecticut High School. Yeah!

Speaker 1 You're pandering.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're pandering. That's a pander pick.
That's fine. Listen, I need to.

Speaker 4 No, it's not a pander. Look,

Speaker 4 I think everybody in their mother believes Alabama's going to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, whether you, all the,

Speaker 4 we all know about what's going on with them, but I mean, real talk, it clearly has not been a distraction for this basketball team, as much as that sucks.

Speaker 1 No, it's basically that South Carolina game they won in overtime. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That was it. That was it.
So, you know what?

Speaker 4 I think Alabama should win it, but there was something I saw from UConn last weekend that made me say they could do it.

Speaker 4 And so that's why I'm just going out on a little bit of a limb.

Speaker 1 I want to see Danny Hurley there.

Speaker 4 I'll take UConn.

Speaker 7 Can you tell me just how Alabama loses?

Speaker 4 Yeah, they lose if they fall in love with a three-point shot

Speaker 4 too much and go like eight for 37 in a game.

Speaker 7 They need a bad rim.

Speaker 4 A bad rim. A bad rim.
Like, East Region, I don't see anybody being able to win it.

Speaker 4 I mean, I like Michigan State. I like what they're doing, but I don't trust Tennessee in the final four.

Speaker 4 Up in the

Speaker 4 well, down in the south, in the south,

Speaker 4 Alabama to me is

Speaker 4 a shoe-in to make it. So then, by that virtue, they're going to be in the championship game.

Speaker 4 So, you know, I think on the other side, could Houston win it? Yeah, but I just don't trust them always with their offense.

Speaker 4 Tennessee would be a pick too, but I'm going to pick UConn and go a little bit outside the box because I do think UConn's talent, UConn's talent stacks up with anybody. Okay, there it is.

Speaker 4 There's my pick.

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Speaker 7 And now here's Damon John.

Speaker 8 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests back in studio. It is Damon John.
He's here.

Speaker 1 He has what he's calling a legacy book.

Speaker 3 A legacy book, yes.

Speaker 1 It's called Little Damon Learns to Earn. It's out now.
Go buy it. I actually wanted to start.
I was saying to you in the hallway, I don't know if you read Art of the Deal.

Speaker 1 I read Art of the Deal, so I know how to negotiate better than pretty much everyone.

Speaker 1 I negotiated with my son this morning. I told him, if you put on your clothes right now,

Speaker 1 I will bring home a book for you. And it was your book.
So your book's already helping my life.

Speaker 3 Did he get excited?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was like, oh, thank you so much for the book. That was like

Speaker 1 in the back of my head, I was like, I'm probably going to forget to bring it home, but that's fine, whatever.

Speaker 1 But that's the key that he actually likes books right now because usually they're like, I don't know, a book. What do I want to do with that?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, they lie to you when you're a kid because books, when you're young, they're just pictures.

Speaker 7 And then all of a sudden you have to start reading shit. And And then you're like, wait, wait, wait, this is bait and switch.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
But this is, so you've been working on this book for how long now?

Speaker 3 I didn't realize I was working on this book for the last 30 years because I was trying to teach my oldest girls financial intelligence. And

Speaker 3 I didn't know how to. And when I first made money, I thought the financial intelligence was, you want a car.
You go out and you work. I'll match how much money you have and get you a car.

Speaker 3 I was just teaching her how to work hard.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 It wasn't financial intelligence.

Speaker 3 So I started looking around, and the reason why this is my legacy, is going to be my legacy is because there's no book out there like this for kids five to 10 years old where it shows them how to build a business or what to do with money.

Speaker 3 All the books are princes and princesses. And now I have a new little girl.
She's six, seven years old.

Speaker 3 And I'm tired of reading her stories about a prince that's going to one day come and check out her, what I don't know, gold slipper

Speaker 3 or something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I realized this is not out. And then our kids don't have financial intelligence.
And at 17 years old, they can acquire $700,000 worth of debt that they won't pay up until they're in their 50s.

Speaker 7 I always thought that was messed up. When you're growing up, you should, the biggest part of your life is going to be learning how to have money, spend money, what to do with your money.

Speaker 7 Your life is going to be centered around that to a certain extent for the next 60, 70 years. And they don't teach you anything about that in school ever.

Speaker 7 They teach you math that you're probably, you know, certain parts of math in high school. I've never used calculus in my life.
I've never used

Speaker 7 trigonometry.

Speaker 1 I've never been in the same room as calculus. Yeah, that's actually.
That's so bad I wasn't.

Speaker 7 I took Algebra 2 twice. Yeah, C plus this.
Double time.

Speaker 3 I love school so much I took seventh grade twice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So it's not, listen, it's not a scam or it's not some kind of, you know, kind of like thing people want to do to us.

Speaker 3 They're not saying, oh, let's not teach our kids anything about money and then all of a sudden, you know, let's prey on them. But what happens is the school system is broken.

Speaker 3 The school system is where the school system was 80 years ago.

Speaker 3 We needed to be able to build ships and build things and have a trade like that because we're going to war, or they would teach you how to be a good employee because there were companies that you started yourself.

Speaker 3 But the fact is that whoever's listening today who's graduating school, 50% of them will retire with a job title that doesn't exist today.

Speaker 3 That's like saying somebody 20 years ago, you were going to be a podcaster.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's us, yeah.

Speaker 3 Be an AI expert or social media person or pay-per-click manager.

Speaker 3 So you're going to not be taught financial intelligence and then at 17 years old, take $700,000 worth of debt for an education you don't know you want to have. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So this book, it's ages 5 to 10, 4 to 10.

Speaker 3 5 to 10, parents can read it with their kids. And unlike when you think about a book, like when I read Cash on the Rye in school,

Speaker 3 why the hell am I reading this?

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck Holden Caulfield. That book was, come on, let's read.
He's a phony. Yeah.
He is.

Speaker 7 He's a big phony.

Speaker 1 He's like, dude, just grow up a little.

Speaker 3 But when you think about your little boy, when you read this book, a kid loves repetitiveness. So what you would do is you would read it every month.
Yeah. Right?

Speaker 3 Because right now, the status like 60% of parents are uncomfortable talking about money with their kids so now I figured because I'm I'm I'm literally the only African American in on major television on major network for the last 14 years that don't come from music sports or television music sports or politics I've been in these kids living rooms for 14 years so

Speaker 3 I'm trying to be the new Mr.

Speaker 3 Rogers and teach them what's going on and and that's what I'm trying to bring this financial intelligence to to families and parents you know and everybody yeah I also think that sometimes people that don't grow up with money, they don't learn how to talk about money.

Speaker 7 They get afraid to bring it up because in certain people's houses, you bring it up. If you don't have money growing up, your parents just tell you, don't talk about money.

Speaker 7 It's a taboo topic.

Speaker 3 It's bad, right? And it's not, right? So I put it in a real soluble way where Lil Damon wants to earn he wants to get some stuff and he wants to make his own. He starts his own business, fails.

Speaker 3 Then he realizes he needs friends and he needs to tap into his friend's skill set to help him make money and they all make money.

Speaker 3 So, when you're a little boy, you know, I don't want him thinking he can only be a superhero because webs got to come out of his wrist, so he has to fly.

Speaker 3 But if I can show him, like the Avengers, instead of fighting Thanos, what you need to fight is you need to just grab each other and get each other together.

Speaker 3 And then I use the fact that you could dance, you could sing, you can draw, you're a gamer, and we can make money having fun. And that's what people need to understand.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 do you explain, or maybe you could explain it to someone? Like, we have a lot of listeners that are maybe five years old? Inflation.

Speaker 7 How does that make sense?

Speaker 3 Well, inflation means that the cost of everything is rising, but you can make money off of inflation.

Speaker 3 You know, if you buried $100,000 in the ground, you know, 1975, you pull that $100,000 in cash up, it could barely get your Mercedes-Benz.

Speaker 3 But due to inflation, if you buried a diamond in the ground that worth $100,000, it would be worth $1.75. Right.
$1.75 million.

Speaker 1 Why don't we print more money when we get out of it? This is, again, a question for five-year-olds. Yeah, right.
Of course. We're not.

Speaker 3 But you guys came in the money, right?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, we did, but I'm wondering, I now need some tips on.

Speaker 3 Well, what would you do with the money now?

Speaker 1 You gamble it responsibly. I would vary.
Wait, wait, hold on, I put my hat on because. Okay.
Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah, you got a top hat. Nice.
Teach us.

Speaker 3 I see I'm needed here.

Speaker 7 Bring top hats back.

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 when I'm on Chartang, no little kid gives a shit about my $10,000 Tom Ford suits.

Speaker 1 But when I wear this hat,

Speaker 3 when I wear this hat, you know, they want me to create magic, and I'm going to show them magic on how to get the hell out of their parents' house at 21 years old or turn $1 into $3,000. So

Speaker 3 you're going to use your money, gambler?

Speaker 1 Well, listen,

Speaker 1 you have $5,

Speaker 1 and responsibly you say, if I take one of those dollars and I hit a parlay, now I have $20.

Speaker 3 And how, what are the odds in the parlay? I'm not a mathematician.

Speaker 1 Understood. But I really like this team.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you really like the team.

Speaker 1 Well, you know,

Speaker 3 so an asset is what feeds you, and a liability is what eats you, right?

Speaker 1 So I'm going to ask you something.

Speaker 3 What do you think is an asset or a liability? Okay,

Speaker 3 let me give you choices. Asset.

Speaker 1 Let me give you a choice. Well, I'll just give you one, and then you give me a choice.
Asset working with PFT, liability working with Billy.

Speaker 1 I kind of nailed that, right? I think so. I think I nailed that.

Speaker 7 I think I nailed that. I was going to say, you have the walking definition of a liability in this room.

Speaker 1 He's right there right now.

Speaker 1 It's Billy.

Speaker 7 He'll give you a rash in.

Speaker 1 Billy, what do you do? Billy doesn't.

Speaker 1 Billy's actually struggling with

Speaker 1 taxes right now.

Speaker 11 That's a very interesting question.

Speaker 1 It's not a tough question.

Speaker 3 What do you do, Billy?

Speaker 1 Stuff.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 11 I try to help out as much as I can. Sometimes it's beneficial.

Speaker 1 Sometimes it's content. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, wait, wait, I like the fact that he said that's the same description as a drug dealer, but

Speaker 1 I'll try to find out what exactly did you do here. Yeah, that is.
You're wrong. They have a product.

Speaker 3 What's the product? That's debatable.

Speaker 7 Billy is the drug.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So I think you're accurate about that assessment of what Billy is.

Speaker 1 He's the liability. All right.

Speaker 3 All right. So you got some money.

Speaker 3 Let me ask you what's the asset liability.

Speaker 3 An 80-foot yacht, paint purple with, you know, just a bunch of TV screens on it, and you sit there all day and you gamble watching the TV screens on the yacht. Yep.

Speaker 1 Or a share of

Speaker 3 Amazon that they may deliver products right to you, or they own Whole Foods. Which one do you think is an asset or liability?

Speaker 7 I'm a shareholder in Amazon right now, and I'll tell you, for the last two years, I would much rather be betting on the can't lose parlay of the weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah, purple yacht. Bezos doesn't let his employees take a piss break.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's a good boss.

Speaker 3 So, Amazon, you should be doubling down on Amazon right now because right now, if

Speaker 3 a car you loved was on a 30% discount brand new, wouldn't you buy a couple of them?

Speaker 7 Yeah, but I mean, you can probably tell by looking at me, I'm a luxury brand guy. And right now, Amazon is like

Speaker 1 Jersey, Italia, Italy.

Speaker 10 That's me, okay?

Speaker 7 I want that. Yeah, right now I see Amazon stock.
It's like, ew, gross.

Speaker 3 So you need to buy when it's down because it's going to go back up. So if you put your money in the bank, you would make maybe 3%.
You put, let's say you guys just made some money.

Speaker 3 You put $100,000 in the bank, end of the year, it would be $103,000. You put it in Amazon.
If it just goes back to where it used to be, that would be probably about $1,300.

Speaker 1 Okay, that sounds better. What about $1,000?

Speaker 3 So it would be $130. Excuse me.
I forgot which $100 or $1,000.

Speaker 1 And then the $1,3,000.

Speaker 1 You parlay.

Speaker 3 You parlay. You let the winnings ride.

Speaker 10 Now your money's making you audience.

Speaker 1 Then I said,

Speaker 3 this is the whole reason why I'm writing this book for kids because adults like you are already too stupid to teach.

Speaker 1 So I want to teach kids at about five years old to start understanding how to process this list. You're right, by the way, I'm good at making money.
I'm not good at like holding.

Speaker 3 Let me show you what to do. There's a simple, and none of this stuff is hard, really, to understand.
So let me show you something that you and any listener can do right now for the kids in your life.

Speaker 3 Just

Speaker 3 something casual to do.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 3 Your son,

Speaker 3 if he likes toys and stuff like that, you want to buy him a nice little truck, right? Buy him a little caterpillar truck, right?

Speaker 3 Buy him a share in caterpillar.

Speaker 3 And then show him what that truck is equal to, and then take a picture of him that day, you know, the next

Speaker 3 birthday or the next holiday or Christmas, buy him a share in maybe. Disney and a Disney product that he likes, right?

Speaker 3 And when you look at this book, all these shares that he he keeps going over with his what and looking at over the course of the next five, ten years, he's going to start to understand.

Speaker 3 Then you show him how much they appreciated. And how much did the truck appreciate? And how much can he sell that for? And how much can the stock? Be sold for.

Speaker 3 And if everybody did that with their kids, they would start to understand stocks. But let me show you the exact way the $3 work.

Speaker 3 So if you guys made $3, $3,3 million, here's exactly how it's supposed to happen. The first dollar is supposed to go for what you have to pay for, right? Food bills, whatever the case is.

Speaker 3 The second is an investment.

Speaker 3 Anything, real estate, whatever the case is. And the third dollar, you go and you buy what you would like to have, but you don't have to have.

Speaker 3 And if you don't buy it, then you put it back into number two. What most Americans do is they put the money in, they do number three first because they worked hard, they want to treat themselves.

Speaker 3 Right. Right? Then they never get to number two.
And then all of a sudden number one is late and they're paying 18% interest on their credit cards.

Speaker 3 But if you teach your kids what one, two, three is when money comes into the house, because when you look at your kids and go, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 1 You know how hard I work?

Speaker 4 They go,

Speaker 3 no, and I don't give a shit. I came into this world just like this, and you were taking care of everything.
Why would I give a shit?

Speaker 3 But when you show them that type of stuff, I did the same thing with my daughter. She's seven.
She had $300 at the end of the year. I mean, I don't know.
Tooth fairies give away $40 these days.

Speaker 1 I mean, I got $40.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I got $2.25 for all my teeth and my tonsils, but no problem. We broke out the $300.
I said, baby, here's 100. You got to give that to mommy and daddy because you got to help pay the rent.

Speaker 3 She said, basically, looked at me with the, I don't give a shit. No problem.
Take it. The second one, we put it into a little business.
She's going to buy seashells.

Speaker 3 She's going to find seashells and put them into little glass bottles and sell those. And the third, I said, what do you want to do with this third? What do you want? Anything you want.

Speaker 3 She wanted a pet. She started off with a giraffe, but we ended up down to a little fish.
Okay. We go to the store.
We buy the fish. We bring it home.
I said, baby, the money just bought you freedom.

Speaker 3 She said, what do you mean? I said, you didn't have to wait for Christmas. You didn't have to wait for your birthday.
You didn't tell me and I went and bought you a fish that you didn't want.

Speaker 3 This is what freedom is. Yeah.
So what she started to understand, and all the parents can do this today with their kids, she started to understand that's freedom.

Speaker 3 And freedom is either going away on a vacation, giving to a charity, you know,

Speaker 3 parlay, whatever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right?

Speaker 3 But then we went back to number two. She had bought 30 little bottles to full.
full of shells, but she went and give away 20. I said, you can't give away 20 because you'll be bankrupt.

Speaker 3 She realized if she gives away five, sells 25, she could then buy 60. And so

Speaker 3 she has financial intelligence how things work at seven years old. Imagine if I kept doing the stock thing with her and that

Speaker 3 keeps growing.

Speaker 7 Do kids have to pay taxes?

Speaker 3 Kids do not have to pay taxes because you usually pay the taxes for them.

Speaker 1 That's actually wrong because there's always the dad tax. Whenever my kids have food that I want, I take a bite.

Speaker 7 Yeah, my son, Chris, he's four. He goes to Chipotle all the time because the public investment fund of Saudi Arabia invested in him.
And whenever he comes home, I'm like, let me get half that meal.

Speaker 3 You know, the Bureau of Child Welfare could be listening to us right now.

Speaker 1 Wait, whoa, you don't take dad tax? Like, when my son has, last night he had Mickey Mouse gummies, and I was like, dad taxed, give me a couple of those. They get taxed.

Speaker 3 You know, they get taxed in a certain way, but

Speaker 3 you're giving him a gift.

Speaker 1 So what are you, gift taxing them?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's a gift tax.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm gift taxing them. What? All right, so I love the idea about the stock.
That's actually genius. You buy them a gift, you get them a stock, like you know, five dollars in Caterpillar.

Speaker 1 What about my daughter? She's a huge Lockheed Martin fan, and I really don't want to

Speaker 1 have her invest in bombs.

Speaker 3 Well, I think your daughter should be, I think you should be listening more to your daughter than

Speaker 3 she should be listening to you if she's a huge Lockheed Man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's number one, their number one fan.
She's only, she's about to be two, but she's their number one fan. It's a good company.

Speaker 1 It's strong. It's the last 20 years.

Speaker 1 It's a very strong company.

Speaker 7 Yeah, my son, Chris, he loves Halliburton, too.

Speaker 4 He loves Halliburton.

Speaker 7 Big Dick Cheney guy.

Speaker 7 I'm curious, what's the worst piece of advice that you've ever received in business

Speaker 7 besides going part of my take? Good question.

Speaker 3 The worst piece of advice that I ever

Speaker 3 got in business was you're not guaranteed tomorrow. Spend it all.

Speaker 7 So back to you, now you're talking about like you have money right now. Yeah.
You don't know what to do with it besides get rid of it, right?

Speaker 1 You what?

Speaker 7 You're saying like if you have money, you might as well get rid of it because you don't know what else to do with it.

Speaker 3 That's bad advice. But that's bad advice because they're saying spend it all, meaning always reinvest in the business.

Speaker 3 There's certain ways to reinvest in the business, not necessarily putting money back into the business because there's a lot of people out there that have large businesses and they spend all the money.

Speaker 3 And they don't have anything to take at home, right? Because everybody usually gets paid off your business besides you.

Speaker 3 The people that are renting the building, the people that are providing the microphones, all the employees and all that other stuff, and you're not taking the money out for yourself.

Speaker 3 So they say spend it all on the business or various other things. And that's not really the best way to do it.
What you should be doing is taking that business like

Speaker 3 McDonald's and using it for more real estate than hamburgers, right? You got to put it in and build something else within the business and let the money work for you and the business. That's

Speaker 1 at the end of your book,

Speaker 1 did you ever think about having like a page at the end of the book being like, and the best business advice is create a book that kids will buy because they never run out of kids.

Speaker 1 They never run out of kids. They never run out of kids.
Think about it.

Speaker 1 It's literally a reinvest every year.

Speaker 7 Every time I have sex, I'm thinking to myself, dollar size. Kids.

Speaker 1 They never run out of sex. They're making money off of sex.

Speaker 1 Are you paying for that sex?

Speaker 7 No, I'm making the money.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're getting paid for that?

Speaker 7 No, I'm paying for it, but

Speaker 3 you're breaking it down cost per pump.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, I got you. Yeah, three pumps

Speaker 1 at the stage. I'm very efficient.

Speaker 1 All business. I like that.

Speaker 4 You're more a P ⁇ L kind of guy.

Speaker 3 How much is your cost per pump these days?

Speaker 7 They call me all-business skeet. I'm in.

Speaker 1 I'm out. Wait, P ⁇ L, that's

Speaker 1 profit and loss.

Speaker 7 Business skeet? No, no, we got a guy named All Business Pete here, but

Speaker 3 it's a long ski. I want to know, what are you paying cost per pump these days?

Speaker 1 I don't pay anything. They pay me.
Yeah. They pay you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I pay $20

Speaker 3 you pay 20 bucks a pump

Speaker 1 so what is a what does a good night

Speaker 3 it's only 40 bucks what is a good night at home cost you 40 bucks what is a good night at home cost you 40 bucks 40 bucks but I gotta show you so so you got what they call phantom cost around there because are you paying for everything at the house

Speaker 3 yeah I guess yeah yeah so you're probably at about $200 per pump right now

Speaker 3 so you you didn't you yeah you forgot about you forgot about $180 worth because that's what we call phantom cost what is a phantom cost that you don't realize that it's costing you more because you're just thinking about what you're doing right there, but there's a lot of other things that are in play, and that's a phantom cost.

Speaker 1 Okay, you've got a bed, you've got covers on that bed.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, no, not physically. Well, that too.
I mean, but if you're paying all of the bills around the house and, you know, everything else, then.

Speaker 1 The lights are on, the lights are off. Okay, so

Speaker 1 what about so?

Speaker 3 You know, we're talking about children's book today, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're talking about children. I just want to make sure we talk about it.
But we are children.

Speaker 7 Does little Damon allow his employees to use a bathroom?

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay, nice, good, solid.
What about this SBV bank? So we broke it down for the people. Yeah.
And we were like, well, it's not really that big of a deal because they'll just print more money.

Speaker 1 Is that true?

Speaker 3 Well, you know, the problem is if

Speaker 3 you give to that bank, now other banks can say, well, where's our money?

Speaker 1 Where's our money?

Speaker 3 So that's a bigger issue. Okay.

Speaker 1 And that's way above my pay grade are we about to be in a recession i feel like i think yes

Speaker 1 really i believe so yeah

Speaker 3 yeah i gotta change some things around no no no this is when you this is when you take that money because cash is king in a recess in a recession right and this is when you buy things because everything is at a discount right so this is exactly why you need to know little damon learns to earn because you buy things when they're down not when everybody has money they're rushing and buying luxury goods and things of that nature i'm about to buy a house uh probably in like the next week week or two.

Speaker 7 My real estate agent keeps telling me, hey, hey, PFT, don't buy this house just because it's around the corner from a wing restaurant that you like.

Speaker 7 Hey, PFT, don't buy this house just because you're walking through the basement and they have a giant TV in the house as they're showing the house. But these are the things

Speaker 7 that attract my eye.

Speaker 7 Is that good advice?

Speaker 3 Well, I would think that a better advice would just go to a great wing restaurant with a big TV in it, and then you can just

Speaker 3 pay for your meal there and get 50% of it. Of course, if it's a business, get 50% of it written off, and you don't have to inherit all those other things.

Speaker 1 So I can just drive to the Wing restaurant and watch TV.

Speaker 3 You could actually walk to the Wing restaurants around the corner. Then you say you go to the round corner.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but I'm saying, like, I want to buy a more expensive house because it's closer to a restaurant that I like.

Speaker 7 Whereas I could buy a house that's 10 minutes away from that restaurant that's cheaper and then drive to the restaurant.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 So this book is for children because

Speaker 1 adults are already set in their ways because you can always go to that restaurant, man, and take the money and just, you know, you know, look at the game over there and parlay right there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're making money. So this book is fantastic.
I am going to read it to my son tonight and my daughter, but again, she's a huge Lockheed Martin fan. So

Speaker 1 I had a question about like where

Speaker 1 social media is going with the economic literacy because you're obviously now part of this doing it for kids.

Speaker 1 but what do you think when you see these guys on Instagram or Twitter who are like the life hack guys?

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 like this one guy the other day said that he does four workdays in one day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he does like he'll just in the morning, that's one workday in the middle of the day, that's one workday, and he's working four times harder than us.

Speaker 1 I'm I prescribe the 10x theory that if you just do 10x of everything, you'll just be 10x as rich. Do you think we're in a dangerous spot in terms of maybe some people who are full of bullshit.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's a lot of people out there that are full of bullshit, but there's a lot of people out there that are, I mean, it's just no difference. It's a different platform.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of people that are full of shit, and there's a lot of people that honestly are giving you great takeaways.

Speaker 3 But like anything you're doing, you should compare that life hack to various other professionals' life hacks and find the common denominator in all of them. Yeah.
Don't just listen to one person.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's actually very good advice because, yeah, you'll see it.

Speaker 1 You'll scroll Instagram and it will just, somebody be like, here's 10, 10 ways that every successful person got to be a billionaire or the grindseck king.

Speaker 3 You know, listen, and here's for the adults too, because of course this book is for adults and children to read together, but a lot of people say, I don't have financial intelligence.

Speaker 3 I think you brought up a good point. The best thing to do if you don't have it right now is you just load up your phone with 10 or 20 Instagram or whatever accounts that talk about finance.

Speaker 3 Don't buy anything. And try to just scroll through those the same time in the morning when you're looking at bags, shopping, chicks, food, men, whatever you're looking at.

Speaker 3 And you scroll through those. And believe it or not, in a year or two years, you'll start seeing common things that you will be attracted to.

Speaker 3 Because whether you like sports cards trading, Bitcoin is obviously down. I think that there could be something there, right? Or you're looking at stocks or flipping real estate.

Speaker 3 You'll start to see something you're really attracted about and you'll get interested in it without spending any money. Just do that.
Because like you said, there's a lot of people full of shit.

Speaker 3 So you don't want to follow one account that's all of a sudden going to sell you something.

Speaker 3 But if you see 10 and 20 accounts you casually going through you're gonna like oh, you know what? Everybody's saying this everybody's saying that you know, let me start looking at it for myself.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like that. That's good advice.

Speaker 7 I've got a serious business question for you here. Uh, what would you rather have five hundred thousand dollars or dinner with Jay-Z?

Speaker 3 Five hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 7 Okay, but but wait, let me finish at the dinner with Jay-Z. You can pick his brain on how to make five hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because most likely Jay-Z has said it a million times in a various different ways. So it would be like me saving $500,000 just to spend two days looking at every single interview he's ever done.

Speaker 3 And or I can even get somebody to do a whole report and break down everything he's done. So why do I need to listen to him? I could save $500,000.

Speaker 1 How many times have you had dinner with Jay-Z?

Speaker 3 Never.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 3 Never. We hung out once, twice, but never had dinner with him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you should probably do it, not do the $500,000.

Speaker 7 You don't even know. Maybe it'd be worth it.

Speaker 3 It would be worth it.

Speaker 3 I could definitely learn from Jay.

Speaker 1 Is there anyone out there that you would take the dinner with instead of the $500,000?

Speaker 3 Maybe Warren Buffett.

Speaker 1 Okay. But he's eating each

Speaker 1 be eating McDonald's.

Speaker 1 Warren Buffett just eats McDonald's. I know.

Speaker 1 Bezos would be a good answer.

Speaker 7 Do you know Magic Johnson?

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 7 Can you text him real quick and ask him if he's going to buy the Commanders?

Speaker 3 You want me to text him and ask him? Can you? I think it's LA time. He may not be up right now.

Speaker 1 No, he's up there. No, he's not.
Magic Johnson. I saw him just worrying about the seedlings in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Yeah, he's working out right now.

Speaker 3 And why would I ask him that?

Speaker 7 Because I'm desperate. I'm desperate for him to buy the Commanders.
Why is that? Because I want Dan Snyder to be thrown into the ocean and then run over with a steam cruiser.

Speaker 3 You just received some money, didn't you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little bit. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've been trying to.

Speaker 3 You should be caring about some other stuff other than that.

Speaker 1 Well, I've been trying to.

Speaker 7 I'm trying to get involved with Jay-Z's investment group with Kevin Durant and all those guys.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one, yeah.
You know what?

Speaker 3 And how are you doing that?

Speaker 7 Just tweeting at him a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Is that answering you? No.
That's a grind set. That's a grind set.
He's on his grind set. Yeah.
Just wake up and tweet.

Speaker 3 And what do you expect to do with that? Because I believe that that group asked you, well, how can you help contribute? Because we don't want regular money because we all have money.

Speaker 3 We want smart money, people who are going to add some kind of, you know,

Speaker 7 so I've been thinking about that.

Speaker 7 I know some of the guys that work on the biggest sports podcast in America. So it would be, I think, maybe

Speaker 7 good for their brand to be like,

Speaker 7 you remember when we,

Speaker 7 in the Iraq War, when they had that dude that was Baghdad Bob that was just saying, like, everything's fine. Don't worry.
Saddam Hussein's doing great.

Speaker 7 That guy, that would be me for the Washington Commanders. I would just put propaganda out there all the time.

Speaker 3 You would just go out there and do that?

Speaker 7 I would do everything. So let me know.

Speaker 3 Well, when you tweet Adam, what do you say? How do you, because that's a pitch. What is your pitch? What do you say?

Speaker 7 Hey, Jay-Z, big fan.

Speaker 7 I got some money. Can I give you some money? And then I can buy the Washington Commanders with you and own a suite there.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 Well, why don't you just go and get a suite there now? And then when he buys it,

Speaker 3 the suite will probably go up and you can flip the suite if you want.

Speaker 7 I just want to say that I'm an owner.

Speaker 7 Honestly, the entire point is, I want to say that I'm an owner of the Washington Commanders because when I was 18 years old, I told my girlfriend at the time, one day I'm going to own the Washington Redskins.

Speaker 7 And so I'm really trying to get back at her for that.

Speaker 3 Have you tried extortion?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Where is she now? Do you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I don't know.

Speaker 3 So, how are you going to get back at her?

Speaker 7 I just want to be able to say that. I want to be able to say, like, I own the Washington Redskins.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Well, listen,

Speaker 3 that's really not a bad goal.

Speaker 3 How much do you think they would go for? Probably about $2 billion?

Speaker 7 I'd think probably $6 billion.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 How much? What's your piece going to be worth? What do you think?

Speaker 7 1% of 1% of 1% of 1%.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think you may have a tough time with that.

Speaker 1 Damon's reaching for his pocket. Is he going to take out his checkbook for PFT?

Speaker 7 Do you want to get involved in my announcement group?

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Are you about to make his.

Speaker 1 Are you about to give him money?

Speaker 3 No, no, no. I was texting my security asking.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 get them to get me the hell out of here.

Speaker 1 I was trying to. I'm sorry.
That's like your version of Oprah. It's like, look under your chair.
You get unwashing.

Speaker 3 Please save me because I'm not sure what just happened.

Speaker 1 You get a football team. Yeah, you get a football team.
You get a football team. All right, so David,

Speaker 1 this book is out now. Little Damon Learns to Earn.
So everyone should go buy it, especially if you're a parent. I cannot wait to read it to my kids.

Speaker 1 What's the one last thing that you would tell parents with small children,

Speaker 1 maybe outside of the book, that's like, hey, this is another thing to think about. Here's something else that you should try to teach your kids.

Speaker 3 They have to, listen, at the end of the day, they have to control the screen times. They have to put it in the middle.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's great.

Speaker 3 I deal with a lot of YouTubers and the ones who are creating like the McClurries the McClurries they're creating a lot of stuff and they say they only look at it 40 minutes they they they have an automatic cutoff I think it's under family usage or you can go down to the store get it 40 minutes they cut it off now what happens is this they go well if you want to look at it more or have more time after that they can always reward them by putting them on their iPad by going hey listen if you do this I'll give you more time on an iPad, right?

Speaker 3 Because instead of having to give them candy or give them other stuff, let them earn it. Because right now, what's happening with kids is they're basically absorbing all that information on an iPad.

Speaker 3 And when we were kids, our parents cut the TV off, but a kid will sit there and put an iPad on them and fall asleep and keep listening to the same stuff.

Speaker 3 And what happens is my six or seven-year-old, she started having anxiety around the house because there's no shows for basically six and seven-year-olds.

Speaker 3 After Peppa Pig and all that, well, now you got the other shows around 12. So every time that my wife and I got into a dispute, she was like, are you getting getting divorced?

Speaker 3 Or she'd say, are you going to die? Or when am I going to have a baby?

Speaker 3 Because she's watching stuff that may have Hannah Mana may have a great song on it, but they're really adult topics they're talking about in there.

Speaker 3 And these kids are falling asleep with these iPads on them when they're going to bed. And it's really programming their minds against a whole lot of other things that are not productive for them.

Speaker 3 So I think that's one thing we're doing with our daughter. And we're finding that we take it away.
And after about a week, she didn't mind not having it for 40 minutes.

Speaker 3 After 40 minutes, she just decided to play and do something else and use her mind instead of worrying about what somebody's unboxing and worrying about all these children on social media that are showing them how to play with toys.

Speaker 3 She's starting to do it herself and then she started to pick up instruments and other things. So bottom line, shut your iPad down because the iPad is extremely dangerous.

Speaker 3 It's letting basically cartoons and a whole bunch of crap into your child's life where honestly, most cartoons have about about 40 acts of violence in them per cartoon.

Speaker 3 We all grow up with bugs money and all these kinds of things. This is not something they should be absorbing too much.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. That's good advice.

Speaker 7 I got one last question about you're a fashion guy. Yeah.
Your roots are in fashion. I'm a fashion guy.
I can see. I brought Levi's back to the USA.

Speaker 7 I started that Levi's trend and the whole NASA trend, that was me too. The what trend?

Speaker 1 The NASA.

Speaker 7 People wearing NASA logos in their NASA shirts. I invented those.
Okay. What's next? I want to know what's next.
I want to be on the cutting edge, the bleeding edge of fashion.

Speaker 7 What should I be looking at wearing?

Speaker 1 You as fashion guy you see.

Speaker 7 I'm a hype beast, yeah.

Speaker 3 You're a fashion guy. You should be telling me.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but we're picking each other's brains here. I mean, you're looking at me.
I'm showing you. I'm opening my kimono, telling you what I think is coming next.
I'm showing you guys.

Speaker 3 Why are you opening your kimono?

Speaker 7 That's how business people. I've heard people say that in meetings before.

Speaker 3 I've never heard that before in my life.

Speaker 7 I'll circle back on you and I'll let you know where I heard that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 But what's next? What's next in fashion?

Speaker 3 Fashion is anything that you want it to be.

Speaker 3 You know, you can't. Fashion is dictated by how you want to wear it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know,

Speaker 3 you know where we're, yeah, top hats is totally in, right?

Speaker 3 But you know where, you know, where like all the couture stuff, fashion really started was really the paupers that used to stand outside the royal palaces when they were getting married, they used to do their own runway shows outside and they used to come up with rags and things of that nature and look like they were royalty walking down the

Speaker 3 whatever, right? The street. Fashion is whatever you want it to be.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 Sweatpants. What about crutches? What about designer? Like crutches for people walking around with one crutch.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh. Like designer wheelchairs? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Do they even have crutches anymore? Is those things that you just put your leg up on and roll around with?

Speaker 1 Oh, I like those.

Speaker 1 Those are cool.

Speaker 3 Yeah, those get me around the Golden Corral Buffet pretty quick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, those are cool.

Speaker 7 It's going to a buffet and seeing people that have eaten their way into like a scooter. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Still hammering that buffet.

Speaker 3 It's still hammering that buffet. It still works.

Speaker 1 Well, everyone should go out and buy it. You can buy it everywhere.

Speaker 3 We started talking about kimonos and buffets and schools. This is where the conversation usually goes.
All right. Lil Damon Learns to Earn is out now.
This is the first book of its kind

Speaker 3 and it teaches financial intelligence in a fun way as well as how to start a business. You read it to your child

Speaker 3 every month for about a year or maybe two years, the same way they want to read, you know, Dragons and Tacos and Stinky Wonky Donkey.

Speaker 3 But what it does is it starts to process their mind on when they have things they want to do. They go, oh, Oh, wait a minute, that's just like in Lil Damon Learns to Earn.

Speaker 3 And I gave you some ideas on what to do with your children with stocks: buy a stock, buy a toy, and buy a stock that matches it.

Speaker 3 Maybe put a whole bunch of frames up in the house or a nice little portfolio of a book they can look through with great memories. And I show you how to honestly, you know, deal with three dollars.

Speaker 3 First dollar for what you have to pay, second to invest, and third for what you would like to have but don't have to have.

Speaker 3 And the second dollar starts to make so much over the years that it flows into one and two. All right, because if you would have put an automatic deduction of $100

Speaker 3 in the year 2000, every single month, if you started that and you were 18 years old, by the time you're 65, it could average out to be about $1.4 or $1.5 million.

Speaker 3 That's by just doing an automatic deduction you will never see right out of your check for $100 a month. It would easily be at least

Speaker 3 $1.4 or $1.5 million by the time you're 65.

Speaker 1 That's compound interest.

Speaker 10 Carl Nassen taught me that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 I will release a review. I will read it to my kids, and I'll release a review.
But, Damon, thanks always for coming on. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 3 Thank you.

Speaker 3 I swear, I'm not being plain. This is really literally my favorite show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, this is like your third or fourth time on, so we love having you stop by.

Speaker 10 I'm excited.

Speaker 3 Congratulations on what you guys have accomplished and making a little bit of money. And don't spend it on parlays.

Speaker 3 If you want to spend it, I got a whole bunch of crap that I bought from Shark Tank that I can sell you. Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 And that's it. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 15 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 12 That's where Snickers comes in, man.

Speaker 4 That thing is packed.

Speaker 12 Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk, chocolate. It's like the MVP of candy bars.
And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger.

Speaker 12 Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else. Snickers satisfies, man.

Speaker 15 That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We got some guys on chicks.
Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 7 Hey, future Chicago studs.

Speaker 1 My birthday is coming up and my boyfriend keeps saying he's really excited about my present. I'd say he's about 50-50 with good gifts and question mark, question mark, question mark gifts.

Speaker 1 I feel like I always get him great gifts. It's not about money because he makes more than I do.
It's about the thought behind it, which is why I don't want to just tell him what to buy me.

Speaker 1 Should I just keep pretending to like things? I don't want another beer glass. Oh, that's a good gift.

Speaker 1 It's like Homer Simpson getting Marge the bowling ball. I don't like people that compare gifts.
What do you mean? Like in a relationship,

Speaker 1 this woman clearly

Speaker 1 thinks because of the gifts she gets. I don't know.

Speaker 1 The sentence, I feel like I always get him great gifts. Obviously, you think you get him great gifts.
Right. He probably thinks he gets you great gifts

Speaker 1 yeah yeah get experiences yeah get get concert tickets get some sort of vacation do something like that yeah or like a really nice restaurant and then you maybe like you know something after where it's surprise that experience is a good call or just cash cash always wins getting someone cash no one has ever been upset about cash i think

Speaker 1 i think a girlfriend would get upset about cash no not if you give enough cash

Speaker 7 you remember when it's the thought that counts you remember when coacho gave his wife cash yeah that was awesome. Dude,

Speaker 7 happy Mother's Day.

Speaker 7 No, this is on Mother's Day.

Speaker 7 Coach O gave Mrs. O like $500 cash for Mother's Day.
Yeah, like

Speaker 1 people who get upset about the cash they get is because they just didn't get enough cash.

Speaker 1 There's definitely a limit where if you get enough cash, she won't complain.

Speaker 7 That's a fact. Guys, get her lingerie for her birthday.
She'll love that.

Speaker 1 A vacuum cleaner.

Speaker 1 But like one of those really nice ones.

Speaker 10 Yeah, get the Roomba.

Speaker 1 The cordless ones. Hello, PMT crew, longtime listener and big fan.
My question is: why do you guys dap each other up multiple times?

Speaker 1 I teach high school, and the students I teach dap each other up like four to five times in a row until they think it sounded good enough, even though the previous one sounded exactly the same. Nope.

Speaker 1 Thanks, and good luck with your bets.

Speaker 7 You need to have that experience where you feel the perfect dap or the perfect connection.

Speaker 7 It's incredible. I learned something the other day.
I think I told you this on the stream. I don't know if you guys heard this.
Do you guys guys know who invented the fist bump?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Stan Musual invented the fist bump. How crazy is that?

Speaker 1 It is crazy.

Speaker 7 And then Dusty Baker invented the high five.

Speaker 1 And Bobby Valentine invented the rap.

Speaker 7 It all circles back to baseball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The

Speaker 1 perfect dap, there's no better feeling. And they're also just practicing.
Let them get their reps in. Because it's not about like...

Speaker 1 Like with a friend, you're dapping for practice.

Speaker 1 You got to use it for when you have that moment where you're dapping someone you've never dapped before, and it's like, all right, I've been putting in my reps.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, you've been putting in your reps, and we can nail this on the first try. Also, especially if you're in high school, you're just delaying time.

Speaker 1 You're just like, oh, we dap up before class, but hold on, we got to dap up five more times before we can get started. Right.
Like, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 7 And an average friend can become a good friend if you have a really clean dap with them. Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 Bad daps can be bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Hold on.

Speaker 10 Jake, dap. Shout out, Musk.

Speaker 1 Dap up Hank right now.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was tough. Yeah.
That was tough. You kind of missed it.
No, I did. Hank was going a little harder than you were.

Speaker 7 You went pad on pad on that. You got to get the.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 One of those.

Speaker 2 Anything's better than most of the torches.

Speaker 1 Oh, come on.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 You heard it. Beat.
What are you talking about? Beat.

Speaker 7 That was better.

Speaker 1 You hear that snap?

Speaker 1 You hear that snap? No, you don't like it, Max. Max, get over here and dap me.

Speaker 3 I mean, that was bad. Dap Billy.

Speaker 1 Dude, Jap Billy. Love that, Billy.
Max, let's get a fucking. Yeah.
All right. Let's see this.
Change the camera, too. Chicken.
It's so hard. Let's see the dap.
Wait, sit down. Sit down, Billy.

Speaker 1 Sit down. Oh, you go in the middle, yeah.

Speaker 7 Jake, do you play by play?

Speaker 1 Oh, they. Oh, wait.
No. Oh, you had no snap.
You had no snap.

Speaker 1 This is the snap is. You got to snap.
Yes, the snap. Watch.

Speaker 7 Well, we're not in a fucking show tune.

Speaker 1 Dude, watch this. Watch this.
Get the snap right

Speaker 1 in front of the mic.

Speaker 1 Hear that? Hear that snap? Clean as that's the snap. I don't think I've ever snap.

Speaker 1 I don't think I've ever snaps. No, we're not actually snapping you, moron.

Speaker 1 No, it's our fucking hands making the sound. No, you want to know what the coolest one is? Is if you dap and then you

Speaker 1 finger gun. The finger gun is pretty good.
The finger gun is nice.

Speaker 1 Spider's a big-time finger gun guy.

Speaker 7 What about the fresh prints? That one always plays. Nah.
Dap and then a

Speaker 3 unoriginal. I think you guys are just doing old guy snap.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say that's also from like the 90s.

Speaker 1 The sound is what it's about. You guys miss the sound.

Speaker 3 I haven't tried to do that.

Speaker 1 You guys had no no bro hunk. You didn't dap.
You broke it. No, we dapped.
And then we went to the bro hunk.

Speaker 11 Because then you respect each other's mass.

Speaker 1 Got it. Got it.

Speaker 1 I haven't been respecting my boys' masses yet, like recently.

Speaker 7 You ever dap up a girl?

Speaker 1 Why don't girls dap up? You'll never catch me dapping up a girl. Fuck that.

Speaker 7 That's honestly the gayest thing you can do.

Speaker 1 Fuck that.

Speaker 11 You might get a charge nowadays.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, fuck that.

Speaker 1 You'll never see me dapping up a girl. Ever.

Speaker 1 Hank just had a face that makes me nervous about this next question.

Speaker 7 It might be a word. He might be making a face about a word.

Speaker 1 No, this is disgusting, but believable. How disgusting.

Speaker 7 Do you wash your hands? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't wash my hands. Less diseases back in the day.
We need to start doing mean girl clips. You know what we should do? Yeah, you want to do it?

Speaker 11 We should clip our daps, and then hopefully it hits black Twitter and they roast us.

Speaker 1 Oh. That's pretty damn good.
But

Speaker 1 we should start doing mean girl clips to go viral. Like, is it...
PFD, I was wondering. Could you dunk from his free throw line? No, no, no.
Is murder that bad?

Speaker 7 Well, no, because depends who you're murdering.

Speaker 1 People murder all the time.

Speaker 10 Right?

Speaker 1 Like, it's methodical when you do it.

Speaker 7 It's called war.

Speaker 1 How come war isn't murders? Like, I've, like, the U.S. government murders people all the time.
Are they bad?

Speaker 1 I shouldn't say this on the pod, but I've, I've murdered like three or four people, and I didn't think it was that bad.

Speaker 7 It's not murder if it's vibes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Instead of like killing the vibe, yeah, then you have to murder them.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, like, one time this dude came over to my house and we were just like chilling whatever.

Speaker 7 And I just, I honestly just, I slit his throat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I ate his organs and it was just like, it was chill.

Speaker 2 The social team asked me for a PMT clip every episode. Is this the one I send?

Speaker 1 Yes, please send this.

Speaker 2 I'll have them cut it up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll murder that best. The main account.
Yeah. I'm going to find the same font and color that they do for their

Speaker 1 murder that best.

Speaker 4 Max, so send me this clip.

Speaker 2 I'll send it to the social team and then post it on the barstool.

Speaker 1 Perfect. Love it.
There we go. It's going to pop.
Yeah. Numbies.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Hey, PMT boys, my husband is a great husband and an even better father. But he does this thing with dirty laundry that absolutely grosses me out.
My husband refuses to use Kleenexes to blow his nose.

Speaker 1 Instead, he uses his dirty laundry from the hamper. He will pull socks and boxes from the hamper, blow his nose, fold it up, and throw it back in.

Speaker 1 When I confronted him about this, he said, they're going to get washed anyways, and don't have to worry if the amount of snot justifies a new tissue. Is this normal?

Speaker 1 How do I get them to use Kleenexes like a civilized human?

Speaker 7 No, this is the mean girl clip. Yeah, every guy does this.
Yes. This is a like, it's honestly weird that chicks don't do it because it's wasteful and you're ruining the environment.

Speaker 7 If the clothes are going to get washed anyways, it's no different than using a handkerchief.

Speaker 7 I blow my nose on my socks. Every day when I take them off, I blow them and then I throw them into the hamper.

Speaker 1 I go actually one further. Whenever I have a big hamper.
I don't even use toilet paper. Yeah, no, never.
Never use toilet paper. I'll just use socks.
I'll I'll use my underwear.

Speaker 1 Whenever I have a big hamper of laundry, I'll just jizz all over it. Because, like, you might as well make the washing machine do extra work, right? Like, you're washing it anyway.

Speaker 7 So, what the fuck? Yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 1 I care about the world. Yeah.

Speaker 7 You honestly, Hank, that's... A little bit weird that you wipe your butt with socks because the human body...

Speaker 1 Well, shirts sometimes too, sweatshirts, hoodies. Yeah,

Speaker 7 the human body actually.

Speaker 1 Whatever's on the floor of my bathroom.

Speaker 7 You don't need to wipe.

Speaker 7 Do you think cavemen were wiping their butts?

Speaker 7 Do you think that people were wiping their butts in the 1800s, 1900s?

Speaker 1 And if you actually don't wipe your ass long enough, it just kind of builds up. It's kind of like not wearing padding gloves.
Yeah, right, right. And

Speaker 1 I hate to say this, but I low-key kind of missed COVID because I used to wipe my butt with my mask all the time. Yeah.
And it's like, just get that, you know.

Speaker 1 Again, if you're not making your laundry machine work, like these laundry machines have come a really long way. So they're there to clean.
Make them clean.

Speaker 1 And if if you use the outside of your mask it's not even touching your face right no i use the inside too

Speaker 7 no you got to use the outside i agree that's a little gross i agree with me yeah let's not judge the inside is i like to i i brush my teeth with the inside of my mask and then i wipe with the outside yeah

Speaker 1 all right uh

Speaker 1 last one Hey, PMT boys, I've been with my boyfriend for over four years now. We just moved in with each other about a year ago.

Speaker 1 Everything is going great, except for one thing I really don't know about until we moved in with each other. Whenever he goes pee, he tries to flush.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I do this too. This is great.
I didn't read this. Oh, yes, I do it too.
We all do it.

Speaker 1 You tried to read it. You tried to time it.

Speaker 1 You tried to read it.

Speaker 1 I'm assuming that's what he's going to say. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He tries to flush while he's still peeing and time in the toilet. He finished flushing exactly when he finishes peeing.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't care if he was better at it, but I'd say more times than not, he flushes too early and ends up having some pee left over in the toilet and doesn't flush it after.

Speaker 7 Just like a little bit of time.

Speaker 1 I've never heard of a guy do this before. I never never heard why Desney said it's like a little game every time he pees, and it's fun.
Is it common? So common. So common.
It's efficiency.

Speaker 1 It's efficiency. You're going to the bathroom.
If you pee, wait till you finish peeing, then flush. That's a second of your life that you never get back.
Yep, I agree.

Speaker 7 I agree 100%. It's fun.
It's so much fun to try to time it out. It's tempo.

Speaker 1 You got to be in tempo time.

Speaker 7 Have you ever started flushing right when you start peeing and then you force yourself to pee extra hard?

Speaker 1 There's also

Speaker 1 where you pick up the pace. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You go to

Speaker 1 the four-minute offense. It's a race.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like trying to spell your name in snow. There's also

Speaker 1 the cousin of this is when you're in a toilet or a setting where it's like, hey, you're at someone's house or something, the flush the minute the shit hits the wall, like just do it quickly so it doesn't smell as bad.

Speaker 1 You don't let it linger.

Speaker 1 That one you have to do sometimes.

Speaker 3 The courtesy flush.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's like, it's just as you're literally like, pooping and flushing at the same time.

Speaker 11 Do you ever wait after you do that in someone else's house just to have to pee to then get the skid marks off the bowl?

Speaker 1 Oh, you wash with the skid marks. Yeah, I wait.
I hold my pee if I'm pooping, and then I use it to walk.

Speaker 1 It's hard, but like.

Speaker 7 You can't poop and not pee?

Speaker 2 It's really fucking hard.

Speaker 1 Dude, I've actually.

Speaker 7 That's bullshit, Billy.

Speaker 1 No, PFD. I'm going to back him up.
It's the same muscles.

Speaker 7 It's impossible.

Speaker 1 No, it's really,

Speaker 11 you don't actually have to pee when you're...

Speaker 11 But then you wait, and then sometimes you're in there for a little extra longer, but it's so much more discreet.

Speaker 1 I've actually, I'm going to not only back up Billy physically possible no because I've I think it's maybe just either getting older to hold I'm like tired all the time I've had I've had a couple times the last

Speaker 1 yeah I well no but I sounds awful I've had a couple times the last like month or so where I forgot to pee while I was taking a shit and then I had to pee when I after yeah that's weird I know I know I know it's weird physically possible I think it's physically possible because it's happened to me multiple times where I'm like wait did I pee not even a squirt well because you're scared no I just forget you're scared to poop, which makes you not have to pee.

Speaker 11 You're scared to poop in the weird place, be it like someone's house that you're like trying to be discreet at, and then you end up having to pee after, and then you get to clean whatever

Speaker 1 has it after flushing. That's so smart, Billy.

Speaker 7 Actually, you know what the best way to wipe is, like, most sanitary way? It's just by not wiping it.

Speaker 1 No, you're masking.

Speaker 7 So the self-bideth, the self-bideth is what Billy's talking about, except on the bowl, you just pee directly onto the butt. Yeah.
And then that wipes away all the shit. Yeah, it's the self-bidet.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Max, you don't think so?

Speaker 1 And then you come in your butt. You're a pretty big dick for that, I think.

Speaker 7 No, you just pull it back, and then it's like one of those super soakers where you can turn the nozzle to the side.

Speaker 1 And then you come in your butt for the conditioner. Yeah.
I just don't wipe, and then I build it up, and then I wear a bathing suit in the shower to make sure that, like, I'm not getting

Speaker 1 a household in the shower.

Speaker 1 I only just, I don't wipe, and then I'll just find a pool.

Speaker 1 That's the best way to do it.

Speaker 1 The other, so everyone, every guy does that. I think the other thing, or like another, another thing,

Speaker 1 I think, no, the peeing. Oh, I was going to say, I was joking.
No, peeing in the.

Speaker 7 Max was like nodding his head to everything that we've been saying. And then we talked about peeing the shit off your own butt.

Speaker 1 He was like, no, I don't do that.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, I was just thinking logistically how that would be how that would work.

Speaker 1 I mean, if you have any real friends in your life, they've also had to pee in your butt when you can't, when you don't have pee. That's just boys helping out boys.
Yeah, I've been in a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, can you quickly clean my butt?

Speaker 1 They pee in it for you.

Speaker 1 I always enjoy, and this happened more like college-age, I feel like,

Speaker 1 but when you and someone you don't even know walk into a stall at the same time,

Speaker 1 you're always trying to pee longer. Yeah, it's like a race.
Yeah. Or it's not a race, but it's like a competition.
No, like you, like, let's say me and you walked in the bathroom together.

Speaker 1 We don't even know each other, but we both walk into a stall and we start peeing. I'm in my head being like, I gotta outlast this guy.

Speaker 11 No, I'm more like, you guys start peeing first.

Speaker 1 I also, if you're in a if you're taking a shit in a public bathroom and it's like empty stalls everywhere, and the guy sits next to you, I'll always make a noise being like, oh, come on, dude.

Speaker 1 Seriously?

Speaker 1 And then I'll put my hand underneath and be like, ready?

Speaker 1 All right. Good show.

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I'm not sassy. I asked you a question.
I don't remember. I answered it.

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Six, nine.

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I'll go seven.

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Speaker 3 Twenty.

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Speaker 7 And then look, 17 is

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Speaker 7 Hey, that's actually.

Speaker 1 And that's it.

Speaker 3 That is also exactly where 17 is right now.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Wow.
Should we see if 17 comes up? This doesn't count.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, give it a shot. Let's just see.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, we're back to the bottom.

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Speaker 2 Those are back-to-back football numbers. Maybe 17 will be next.
It's a football number.

Speaker 1 No, it's not. No.

Speaker 7 It's definitely not going to be next.

Speaker 1 Unless I guess it. Then it might be.
All right.

Speaker 7 See you everyone Friday. Love you guys.

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