Breaking Down The Bracket With Mark Titus, Bears Trade 1 Pick, Aaron Rodgers Won't Go Away And More

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take,

Speaker 1 we have our brackets. The brackets are out.
March Madness is finally here.

Speaker 2 My bracket's busted.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. There goes my bracket.
It's the gif of the trash can going down a flooded street. Ha ha.

Speaker 2 Live look at my bracket.

Speaker 1 It's a dumpster fire. Oh, shit.
And we also have Whitey in the building. We have Mark Titus on to break down the brackets.
We're going to talk about the eve of NFL Free Agency.

Speaker 1 The Bears have made a big trade on Friday afternoon. Talk about that.
Aaron Rodgers is still a piece of shit. Who's back of the week? And guess what?

Speaker 1 A bonus NIT bracket reveal at the end of the show before we do the lottery balls. See if Nova gets in.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, March 13th.

Speaker 2 and we have our brackets. This is

Speaker 2 Marsh.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 Hear that? Hear that, folks? Yeah, you even got Hank with a pen in his hand. You never see that.
That's like Loch Ness Monster.

Speaker 2 This is the most reading that I do in a calendar year.

Speaker 2 Like, non-internet reading is, I think, 90% of the words that I read over the course of the year when it comes to paper and ink are probably in the three days before March badness starts when I just look at all these different brackets.

Speaker 2 I'm probably going to print out seven or eight different brackets. Just look at them.
I just love looking at a bracket.

Speaker 2 And you have to have guys only want one thing, and it's disgusting to look at brackets.

Speaker 1 It's a bracket. It's a bracket.
I'm so excited for March Madness. We have Mark Titus on the show.
We're going to break down the bracket, talk all the storylines, get excited.

Speaker 1 Before we do that, though. Because we can save.
I want to talk about the bracket with Mark Titus. I don't want to talk about anything else.
I do want to say Rutgers got screwed.

Speaker 2 Let's just throw that that out. Rutgers got fucked.

Speaker 1 Rutgers got fucked.

Speaker 1 One of my favorite parts of

Speaker 1 when they do the bracket reveal and you have the last four out and one team always gets fucked.

Speaker 1 That team gets maybe like three minutes of everyone feeling bad for them. And then you're like, oh, shit, I have a bracket in my hand.
Yeah, don't care. Don't give a fuck.
Rutgers, who?

Speaker 1 Who the fuck cares? I don't.

Speaker 1 Rutgers, did they even play basketball this year? I have a bracket.

Speaker 2 Texas AM got fucked too with their seeding.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But that's another another thing where I see that they come out and they get a seven seed, but then I see that we could get a juicy second round matchup between Texas A ⁇ M and Texas.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, good, I'm glad A ⁇ M got screwed just so that I can potentially look ahead to that matchup.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. So I also got duped.
I want to just hand up. I got duped.

Speaker 1 I did not expect Wisconsin to make the bracket. I actually am happy they're not because their season has been torturous.

Speaker 1 I was at maybe, if you asked me honestly this morning, it was like 1% chance, 1%, like three or four teams say, hey, we're not playing, so we need to find some more teams to get in the 68-team field.

Speaker 1 Right before the bracket was revealed,

Speaker 1 my friends, my best friends from college, we have a group text. One of them dropped a CBS sports link.
I thought it was going to be a big black cock. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 I thought we were going to go back to COVID times. It was instead an article that said, NCAA tournament 2023, Wisconsin Badgers.

Speaker 1 It's all positive vibes now for the Badgers after they somehow snuck into the field of 68 despite being one of the nation's lowest scoring teams.

Speaker 1 That was an insult sentence right there, but that's fine. Either way, I saw it and I was like, oh, script leaked.
We're in. Yep.

Speaker 1 So in a cruel twist of fate, I have not let this team hurt me whatsoever all year. And then I had this dropped into my lap right before the bracket reveal, got my weird hopes up.

Speaker 1 And then they hurt me. In the last final second, they're like, wait, hold on, let's get him one last second.

Speaker 2 You know what it is. It's like when they write an obituary ahead of time, so they're ready to drop it.

Speaker 2 This is like Jimmy Carter dead at the age of 98, and they accidentally publish it like two days before he gets in. So

Speaker 2 I feel like just acknowledging that you were a bubble team is kind of a win.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it just, it... It really was so mean that they did that to me at the last possible second because I had no expectations.
I could not emotionally get hurt.

Speaker 1 And then it was one last, oh, maybe they're alive. No, they're actually.
Yeah, they're dead.

Speaker 2 They're deader than dead. Yeah.
So there's that.

Speaker 2 There's UNC preemptively declaring that they're not going to participate in the NIT,

Speaker 2 which is a bullshit thing that they're doing.

Speaker 1 One more spot for Novo.

Speaker 2 It's disgusting

Speaker 2 that UNC is bowing out. Maybe JMU gets in instead of UNC.

Speaker 1 We'll find out at the end of the show.

Speaker 2 People forget that UNC...

Speaker 2 The NIT used to be the national championship tournament. That's true.
It's very disrespectful what you're doing.

Speaker 2 They are the first team to go from preseason number one to not making the NCAA tournament since the field was expanded in 1985.

Speaker 1 They're also the first team to go from a Final Four straight to Cowardville.

Speaker 2 They're cowards. They are cowards.
It's disgusting. It's a slap in the face to all of college bass.
Bitch made. I really support we love so very deeply.

Speaker 1 And we were robbed of Armando Baycott rolling his ankle three or four more times. That's awesome.
That's bullshit. I wanted to see it.
I wanted to be like, oh, no, is he really injured this time?

Speaker 1 No, he's back in the game.

Speaker 2 So my big takeaway from this, from looking at how the bracket could play out, and big kid, I think you're you're on the same page as I am I think this is Duke's year yeah I think we got to go I think we got to go heavy on Duke yeah because how awesome would that be if Duke won the national championship the year after Coach K left coach K was holding the boys back it would be it would be so awesome for so many reasons but it would also change all of history because I will go back and I will comb through every year where Duke underperformed because I would think the John Shire winning the ACC tournament on Saturday night they've kind of put it together here.

Speaker 1 They've overperformed what they looked like at the beginning of the season. You could say that Coach K should have had 10 national championships.
He's actually a colossal disappointment.

Speaker 1 Failure, I would say. Overall.

Speaker 2 As a human.

Speaker 1 Hank, are you going to be back? Are you back into the Duke bandwagon? You're back? Yeah, kind of. Okay.

Speaker 2 So you don't even want it to win. Listen to you, Hank.
You don't want Duke to win.

Speaker 1 If they don't make it to Sweet 16, you get a cat? No. Okay.
All right. Well, I tried.
I tried. It took one Hail Mary.

Speaker 1 Do you think

Speaker 2 if they made the national championship, you think that Coach K would try to retroactively claim all these wins for him? Like the opposite of a Pete Godette situation?

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 They're his guys. He recruited these guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. No, he would.
He'd be like, actually, I've been involved with this team since day one. Yep.

Speaker 1 But we will do all the bracket talk with Titus. We got to break through everything.
We'll do every region. We'll talk about our picks.
We'll see storylines, everything.

Speaker 1 We've got a lot of bracket talk to get to.

Speaker 1 Also, the Bears are back. So on Friday.

Speaker 2 Fleeced. They fleeced.
Somebody got fleeced. I don't know who asked me in three years, but somebody got fleeced.

Speaker 1 Fleeced. The Bears traded the number one pick.
We all expected it.

Speaker 1 I want to say that the timing,

Speaker 1 it feels like we kind of pushed Ryan Poles to do it. He actually texted me after and was like, thanks, man.
We took all your. Well, he texted me before the trade.
He said, does this look good to you?

Speaker 1 And I was like, I just thumbs upped it. And then they did the trade.
And he's like, you and PFT have great football minds. Thank you for getting this

Speaker 2 deal done. He's a smart guy.

Speaker 2 The part that was kind of looked over when they announced this trade, because it didn't seem like the massive haul of picks that some people thought.

Speaker 2 But DJ Moore, getting DJ Moore, did you know, Big Cat? Oh, yes,

Speaker 1 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 Let me finish.

Speaker 2 Did you know that DJ Moore...

Speaker 2 His total, career total for receiving yards would make him the Bears' all-time leading receiver.

Speaker 2 So congrats. You got the best receiver also know that I think in the history.
I'm saying it's a good thing. You got the all-time leading wide receiver in the history of the Bears organization.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure the top seven or eight, three of them are non-wide receivers.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're tight ends.

Speaker 1 No, it's Matt Forte, Walter Payton, and Mike Dicker are definitely in there. Yeah.
So that, yeah.

Speaker 2 Greg Wilson's probably up there, too.

Speaker 1 No, he didn't play long enough. But yeah, it's...
It's bad. It's been bad.
Offensive football is not great. But yeah, so the haul exactly is Bears trade the one pick to the Panthers.

Speaker 1 Ooh, shout out to Panthers for throwing out a smokescreen today and being like, We're not, we might trade the one pick, which would be so hilarious if they did and got more than the Bears.

Speaker 1 That'd be very funny about that.

Speaker 1 They trade the one pick. The Bears get back the ninth pick, the 61st pick, which is second rounder this year, the 2024 first pick, and the 2025 second round pick, and DJ Moore.

Speaker 1 And I love the trade for many different reasons because we need draft capital.

Speaker 1 But the fact that they got DJ Moore, who, if you're going to draft a wide receiver, you're basically saying, yeah, there could be a wide receiver in the first round this year that's better than DJ Moore, but it's a risk.

Speaker 1 You don't know. It's a 50.
DJ Moore is pretty fucking good. He's really good.
Now you have your wide receiver core.

Speaker 1 I think they still probably will draft someone or maybe free agency, but you got a pretty decent wide receiver core around Justin Fields, and you can focus the draft on offensive and defensive line.

Speaker 1 I love how assertive it was. Get it done right before free agency.
Start moving forward. And

Speaker 2 Jalen Carter might fall.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Imagine that.
Imagine if the Bears actually got Jalen Carter who they could have drafted with one. That would be nice.

Speaker 2 That probably won't happen. That would be nice, though.

Speaker 2 The Panthers seem like they're... Somebody leaked something because CJ Stroud went from being like plus 600, plus 400 in some places, to now he's like negative money to be the number one overall pick.

Speaker 2 So somebody somewhere knows that the Panthers love C.J. Stroud.
Tough break for all the Anthony Richardson fans out there, of which there are many.

Speaker 1 But it could still happen. It could definitely

Speaker 2 be. Anthony Richardson physically could wear a lot of the same uniforms that Cam Newton wore.
They're basically the same player.

Speaker 2 Wouldn't you just, if I were the Panthers, I would look back on that Cam Newton draft and I'd say, I want somebody that's as close to Cam Newton as possible.

Speaker 1 Who better?

Speaker 2 than Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 1 He'd be like, hey, Anthony, will you do the Superman after touchdowns? Okay. Yeah, dab.

Speaker 2 Anthony Richardson, he could bring the dab back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he could. But I am very...
The Bears did something good. I'm very optimistic.
Talking with everyone on Friday, I was like, everyone's enthusiastic. It feels good.
The options are unlimited.

Speaker 1 They still have the number one

Speaker 1 most cap space, which is crazy, because that was the other part about DJ Moore. DJ Moore is signed for three years, $17 million a year.
That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Like, it's not just a, hey, we're going to throw. You needed weapons for Justin Fields to see what he is as a passer.
I know that this all that this all hinges on Justin Fields progression.

Speaker 1 That might be the scary part, but everything else is starting to align that if Justin Fields is who I think he is and who I hope he is, the Bears could be in a really good spot.

Speaker 1 And it's all crazy to me because

Speaker 1 it doesn't make sense for the Bears to actually be doing competent things as an organization. And I also just want to say shout out Davis Mills, that motherfucker.

Speaker 1 I love him for life because none of this is is possible if he doesn't beat the Colts.

Speaker 1 And that's why I was that excited that day because when you have the first pick, you have all the ability to make all the moves.

Speaker 1 That was a franchise altering, hopefully franchise-altering touchdown pass and two-point conversion he made in Indianapolis that Sunday, because if these picks start to align and they start to do well, this could be like, hey, the Bears have built something here.

Speaker 1 I'm excited.

Speaker 2 Now, the Bears might not be done trading, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I told trade back.

Speaker 2 You said that they might trade back or

Speaker 2 they might trade up.

Speaker 1 Two second-rounders.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if this was draft day, they would not be done just yet. So

Speaker 2 there's a lot of stuff that could happen. It would be very funny, though, if the Panthers somehow figured out a way to get more for the first round pick.
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 And then they traded to some other team and that third team.

Speaker 2 Like, as teams get more and more desperate leading up to the draft, or maybe it's a smokescreen. Maybe the Panthers are saying they leaked this stuff about CJ because they knew there was another team.

Speaker 2 Maybe, I mean, who is probably, who's the most dupable owner in the NFL? And I say this with love. Jim Ursa.
It's probably Jim Ursa.

Speaker 2 If Jim Ursa doesn't get Lamar Jackson, it sounds like he's going to try to get Lamar. He might be one owner that's in on Lamar.

Speaker 2 But if things don't work out for him, I could see Jim Ursai then being like, shit, you know what? We should get that pick.

Speaker 2 Colts traditionally have a rich history of drafting good quarterbacks with a first overall pick. That's true.

Speaker 2 He's very comfortable drafting first.

Speaker 1 That's true. I think the Panthers will use this pick.
I think Frank Reich probably took this job being like, get the first pick for me because I don't want to do a replacement quarterback again.

Speaker 1 He spent the last five years of his career just getting cast offs, not cast offs, but guys at the tail end of their career. And he's like, I need something new.
I need a fresh start.

Speaker 1 The Panthers are going to have a fresh start.

Speaker 1 The Bears are going to have a fresh start.

Speaker 1 I'll say it. You know what? I'll be honorable.
Win-win all-around. Good job, Panthers.
Both teams won.

Speaker 1 I do think from like, because obviously this news happened, it happened on Friday during conference tournament, like madness.

Speaker 1 So I processed it, and then on Saturday, I just started reading every article I could read about it.

Speaker 1 And it seemed like there was a sticking point in the trade where the Panthers didn't want to give up DJ Moore, and they wanted to give up a 2025 first.

Speaker 1 Because a lot of people were like, if you trade the first pick, you should get two additional firsts back.

Speaker 1 I would much rather have DJ Moore than the 2025 first. I would.
I'd rather have the guy who's good

Speaker 1 who's an established 2025 wide receiver.

Speaker 2 It's so far in the future that it might not even happen. Right.
When I hear 2025, that's a future problem. We can figure that out at a later time.

Speaker 1 And it also just makes it so the Bears can attack the draft on the line. Like they can go get offensive and defensive line, and they don't have to

Speaker 1 try to get a wide receiver right now. Like they still, it's not finished.
It's not, people

Speaker 1 were tweeting the wide receiver court of the Bears and being like, where does it rank? Everyone's like, last, dead, last, all this shit. Like, that's hurtful.
Still hurts my feelings.

Speaker 1 Just, this is good. This is a decisive move that Ryan Poles has now set himself up to make more decisive moves.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's actually perfect because in three years, we can look back at every person that they drafted.

Speaker 2 And then it's going to take three years to finally determine whether or not this was a good trade back. This is actually, it's so nice having the first overall pick.

Speaker 2 If you're a general manager, it's the best.

Speaker 2 Because you trade back and then you get essentially like a job extension yeah so you get a contract extension because you're like well you can't judge me until the last of those draft picks two years three years after we draft until they mature right so essentially you've given yourself like a seven-year window right to prove yourself as a general manager trust in ryan pulls it's a weird feeling to be like yeah you know what i think the bears are doing the right thing they're making the correct moves the only the only problem with giving up the first pick is you no longer have the first pick it's like the last bite of a sandwich i would if i were a gm i wouldn't i wouldn't trade i wouldn't even use it.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't even use the first pick. I would just hold it.
What if

Speaker 2 you traded back to the first pick?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just be like, Panthers, how about we give you your picks back, but we keep DJ Moore? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Done.

Speaker 2 Maybe the Panthers are experiencing regret right now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's definitely some buyers' remorse because the Panthers, come on, that was stupid. You guys got fleeced.
But no, no, good trading.

Speaker 2 Well, the Bears, they definitely miss having the first-round pick because

Speaker 2 Ryan Poles was probably talking to a lot of good friends on the phone for a while. He probably seemed like he was cool.
Everyone was blowing him up. Yep.

Speaker 2 Now the phone stops ringing once you stop having something that everybody else wants.

Speaker 2 NFL GMs are such fake friends. They don't keep in touch with the other GMs unless there's something they want from them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no. Now we grind some tape.
Now we grind some tape. So free agency starts Monday.

Speaker 1 By the time you're listening, it's already started. I think we'll have an Aaron Rodgers resolution by Monday.

Speaker 2 Are you starting to think about what I said on Friday? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 It makes more and more sense to me the more I think about it that Aaron would absolutely love to just rub in people's faces that he turned down this contract so you can't tell him anything for the rest of his life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Mark Murphy, the president of the Packers comments definitely furthered that along. So first of all, shout out Mark Murphy because you would think, well, actually, you wouldn't think this.

Speaker 1 This is very Wisconsin. I say this actually in an endearing way, not in a negative way.
He didn't do a press conference. He actually was interviewed

Speaker 1 in the middle of a Wisconsin high school girls basketball state tournament. That's when he was interviewed and talked about Aaron Rodgers.
Perfect. I love that.
Like, Like, and

Speaker 1 I truly do love that. So he said, when asked about Rodgers, he said,

Speaker 1 yeah, I mean, unless if things don't work out the way the Packers want them, yeah, we would bring him back. He is obviously a great player.

Speaker 1 And then he started talking about his legacy and like, we're going to retire his number and we just want to do right by him, which means he clearly wants to leave. But now he might retire.

Speaker 1 I don't know. You're right.
Here was the the exact quote that was like, huh, this feels like a done deal, unless Aaron Rodgers retires.

Speaker 1 He said, we're fortunate to have back-to-back Hall of Fame quarterbacks. It kind of happens in our game.
Very few players play for only one team. Brett had a great career here.

Speaker 1 Aaron had a great career. Regardless of what happens, Aaron will be in the pro football hall of fame and beat our Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 We will bring him back and retire his number, but this is just one of the things that you go through as a team. We want to try to achieve something that is good for both Aaron and us.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That doesn't feel like Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback of the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 2 It also seems like the Jets would have had a deal that was in place tentatively with the Packers, and then the Packers were like, okay, you can sit down and meet with Aaron Rodgers

Speaker 2 and all the weird stuff. They did do that.
So they had, yeah, that's what I'm saying. They had a deal in place before that meeting happened.

Speaker 2 That meeting's been done happening for almost a week right now. So it feels like if nothing has moved since then,

Speaker 2 it might be Aaron Rodgers being like, you know what, I'd really rather just retire than go somewhere else. And also, like, yeah,

Speaker 2 I wouldn't blame Aaron Rodgers to retire rather than play for the Jets. No disrespect, Billy.
But I feel like... Full disrespect.
But full disrespect also. They got rid of Braxton Berrios.

Speaker 2 So who's he going to throw the ball to?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Thirst Trap King. Yeah, but no, this feels ⁇ it feels like we're just waiting for Aaron Rodgers to sign off on him going to the Jets because the Packers have moved on to Jordan Love.

Speaker 1 It definitely, like all the comments, everything around it, it just, you can't say some of the things that have been said on both sides and not come to this conclusion.

Speaker 1 He went on, yeah, hopefully it'll create a situation where it's a win for both sides. We'd love to have it resolved to start the free agency.
A win for both sides is not Aaron Rodgers coming back.

Speaker 2 When would be the most perfect time for Aaron to drop his news if he was going to retire?

Speaker 1 He's going to do it like 3 a.m. tonight, and we're going to have to wake up.
I'm going to wake up because my son's going to jump on me. I'm going to see it.
I'm going to text everyone.

Speaker 1 Then someone else is going to wake up. I'm like, holy shit.

Speaker 1 And then the last person to wake up is going to have FOMO that they were the last person to wake up.

Speaker 2 It could be during the Oscars.

Speaker 2 I'm still missing this slap buzz that I had from last year. This Oscars isn't going to have a slap.
I need Aaron to interject and put something out in that place.

Speaker 1 Going back to your point about Ryan Poles not getting phone calls, that is essentially what Aaron Rodgers has done the last month. He just wants to be talked about on every show.

Speaker 1 He's a fucking diva bitch. Yeah.
I, hey, Aaron, I...

Speaker 2 need some DMT too. I demand more transparency.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Boom. Suck on that.
Bitch. Suck on that.
Yeah, no, he's...

Speaker 1 There's no reason that he's doing

Speaker 1 how this whole process goes through, he's just making it as dramatic as possible so people can keep talking about it. That's really all it is.
Which is kind of cool.

Speaker 2 Like, I kind of understand.

Speaker 1 But he's also done it multiple times now.

Speaker 2 He's in the content game now. Yeah.
What if he retired to become a blogger? He's definitely going to have a podcast. Yeah.
Aaron Rodgers, a million percent going to have a podcast.

Speaker 1 It's going to suck. It's going to totally suck.
It's going to be the worst podcast. I'm going to one-star review that shit.
Actually,

Speaker 2 I would watch a podcast that was done in complete darkness in a studio with no light whatsoever. No, sound.
No sound.

Speaker 1 Did you just hear him breathing?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's just Aaron. Aaron goes into a darkness retreat with a celebrity.
So it's like week one, Aaron Rodgers and Joe Rogan, probably. Sure.
Or Aaron and Kyrie.

Speaker 1 That seems right.

Speaker 2 Aaron and Kyrie go into a dark room and sit together in silence for three hours.

Speaker 1 Oh, by the way.

Speaker 2 I would listen to that. That would actually be perfect if you're trying to fall asleep.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Special fuck you to Kyrie Irving, who called out gamblers.

Speaker 1 Who Who does he think, like, this is just crazy how he's just torching everything. What'd he say? He was like, oh, yeah, it's really the animosity sometimes from the crowd.

Speaker 1 Like, we don't care about your parlay. Like, we're playing ball.
It's like, dude, guess what?

Speaker 1 The league advertises with gambling companies. Every league does now.
Yeah. You want your $200 million.
You're going to get it. Like, what are you talking about? I just...

Speaker 1 He pisses me off.

Speaker 2 I think Kyrie just doesn't like anybody that tells him anything.

Speaker 1 Anything.

Speaker 2 Not even people that are telling him what to do. He just doesn't like people talking to him.

Speaker 2 He's like,

Speaker 2 why are you talking to me?

Speaker 1 He is my three and a half-year-old son. The other night, my son, I said, he grabbed my face and I was like, please don't do that.
In that exact tone, and then he got mad at me.

Speaker 1 He was like, I don't like when you say something to me. Yeah.
That is literally Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Kyrie doesn't like interacting with people.

Speaker 1 I do not like it.

Speaker 1 What do you do with that sentence? I don't like when you say something to me. That's what he said.
And I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 What gives you the right to tell me to sit down? Well, I'm your coach, Kyrie.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Jay Williams called out Stephen A on first take last week, saying, this seems personal.

Speaker 6 And Stephen A kind of got flustered and then came out today or yesterday and said, Kyrie and I have our differences on a personal level, which is none of anybody's business. And I'll never tell why.

Speaker 6 He knows why.

Speaker 1 And his daddy knows why.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 So Jay Williams was right.

Speaker 6 That is. And now I just need to know what the reason is and what Kyrie's dad did.

Speaker 2 That was an awesome clip, though, when Stephen A and Jay Williams were just yelling at each other. And it got personal between the two of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he said, I'm always triggered. Yeah.
Yeah, that's what, yeah. This is a great line to have.

Speaker 2 What did he say? I wonder what Kyrie, what Kyrie's dad could have done to Stephen A. Smith.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, here it is.

Speaker 1 This is what he said. Gambling and sports betting have completely taken the purity and fun away from the game at times.
I'm going to be honest with y'all.

Speaker 1 There's a difference between being a diehard fan and supporting your team and loving your team versus somebody that's betting on a parlay or somebody that wants to hit i agree with that but do you think people just started gambling last year yeah it like what are we talking about it absolutely takes away some of the purity of the game yes but it's also what kyrie needs to realize it's it's also very fun yeah it's always and we're not saying like a diehard mavericks fan definitely cares more than a bet i make on the mavericks we're not arguing yeah shut the up dude Don't come at me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Billy. People are

Speaker 7 gambling since the Coliseum. That was actually something really interesting that, like, the origins of gambling is in the Coliseum.
It's right there with sports since the beginning of time.

Speaker 2 I mean, would you go to a gladiator event and not gamble on it? Yeah.

Speaker 2 That would be disgusting, actually. The people that were into gladiator sports, for the purity of it, it's like, no, I just want to go see these two humans fight to the death because I love the game.

Speaker 2 That's fucked up. If you're betting on it,

Speaker 2 I completely understand that.

Speaker 2 If you go to a fucking sword fight and don't bet on it, you should be arrested.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're just like, I want the guy in the red to die.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm rooting for blood.

Speaker 1 Yeah, why not? But I just would love for Kyrie to put in the thought experiment of like, take away all gambling, everything altogether, and then the NBA goes and negotiates their TV contract. Yep.

Speaker 1 What happens?

Speaker 2 Well, what about betting on yourself?

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's true.
He's done that like 17 times.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. What else do we have? Anything from this? I mean, the conference tournament week was

Speaker 1 took a lot out of me. Took a lot out of me, but it was fun.
It's always fun. March is the best.
These two weeks, oh, my God. I'm so excited for the Brads.

Speaker 2 Odell Beckham's back. Oh, yeah.
Odell Beckham worked out for, what, 10 teams? 10 different teams? Somebody said that he's like the most jacked up that he's ever been.

Speaker 2 But then, big cat, guess when the last time Odell Beckham had over 1,100 yards receiving was?

Speaker 2 I think it's 1,100 yards.

Speaker 1 2016?

Speaker 2 2016. Oh, I nailed it.
It's been a while. It's been a while since Odell was like top of the line elite as a wide receiver.
Do you know what a rumor I heard?

Speaker 1 What? Chiefs.

Speaker 2 Oh, did you hear that from Leroy?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I missed Leroy's tweet. Leroy broke the news

Speaker 1 on Saturday. All I see on Twitter is just ads and all quiet on the Western Front.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can't. I don't see anything on Twitter anymore.
I don't see anyone's tweets. I just see ads.

Speaker 2 Are you on the For You page?

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, I'm on regular Twitter, but I just, it's like everything else is an ad.
I don't remember the last time I've gleaned something from Twitter.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so, well, if you follow what Leroy had to say, he's reporting that the Chiefs are frontrunners right now in the Odell Beckham sweep stakes. But also, he's asking for a shitload of money.

Speaker 2 So Odell thinks that he's still in 2016 Odell mode.

Speaker 2 I'm going to withhold judgment on whether or not teams should sign Odell until I see the most recent clip that his dad puts together of his highlight reel.

Speaker 2 And it really just needs to be the Super Bowl catch for a touchdown. And then I'll be like, yeah, Odell's still good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pretty much. I mean, he definitely will, he'll come back.
He won't be the same Odell, but then he'll make one or two plays where you're like, yep.

Speaker 2 Counterpoint, if he signs to the Chiefs, the Chiefs are all the way back.

Speaker 1 They're all the way back. He's going to have...

Speaker 2 Odell Beckham's going to have 2,300 yards receiving if he signs with the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 If he signs with the Chiefs, I'm going to pick the Chiefs to win the AFC West.

Speaker 2 That's bold. Yep.

Speaker 2 I think this is Denver's year.

Speaker 2 I think Denver's back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they did it. Okay, anything else before we do who's back of the week? And then we're going to get all into the bracket.
We're going to get inside the brackets with Mark Titus. Anything?

Speaker 1 Going once, going twice.

Speaker 2 Scotty Shuffler's a beast.

Speaker 1 Scotty Scheffler's a fucking beast. And I'm not going to say someone that we know choked,

Speaker 1 but he went in the water.

Speaker 2 But he wasn't going to win anyways.

Speaker 6 He was on a run. He was on a hot streak.

Speaker 1 And there's barely any water on that hole.

Speaker 2 When was the last time

Speaker 2 whoever won the TPC at Sawgrass won the Masters? I need somebody to look that up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 Sure. You're probably right about that.
Yeah. So it's probably a good thing that Max didn't win this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, we're gearing up. Listen, it's all about the Masters.
It's all about Augusta. None of this matters.

Speaker 2 I think every golfer is born with a finite number of wins inside of them. You don't want to waste it on the TPC.
Correct. That's like the seventh or eighth major.
Correct.

Speaker 2 We want to save that for the Fortnite, for the Genesis, anything else that's named after video game systems. And then the Masters.

Speaker 1 I, uh...

Speaker 1 Yeah, John. Or Sky Shuffler is so fucking good.
He's so dialed in. It's insane.

Speaker 2 Him and John Rom. Yeah, I was was going to say like.

Speaker 1 When John Rahm had diarrhea.

Speaker 2 When somebody is locked in, the two most fearsome golfers, when they're dialed in right now, nobody can beat either Scotty Scheffler or John Rahm. Yeah.
When they're dialed in. No,

Speaker 1 they're on a different level. And John Rahm, yeah, he had diarrhea.
What are you going to do? It just sucks when you get...

Speaker 1 I feel bad for John Rahm because when you're a little bit heavier and you get diarrhea, people automatically assume like, well, shouldn't have had that fucking ice cream in the pizza.

Speaker 1 Like they judge you. Like if I get diarrhea, people look at it differently than when you get diarrhea.
That's just a fact.

Speaker 1 People, they diarrhea shame me where they're like, well, no shit, you fat slob. Yeah, if you get it, they're like,

Speaker 1 oh, make sure you drink some water.

Speaker 1 Make sure you stay hydrated. No, if I get it, you food poison.

Speaker 2 No, if I get it, it's like, oh, it's another Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but no, this is how people judge. It's not right.
When I heard John Rahm had diarrhea, I was like, of course he did. He fucking went to Sonic last night.

Speaker 2 Well, that paella runs right through you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So shout out John Rahm.

Speaker 2 Shout out John Rom. He's strong, bro.
Most impressive golfing of the week goes to Trent, though. You see, Trent stuck it on the green on 17.
Yeah, he did. Max could never.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Great shot by Trent, though. Max went into the water.
Nails.

Speaker 1 Not a lot of water. It was a very funny video.
There's a lot of non-water on that hole.

Speaker 2 It's a very funny video that they put out where they had all the amateurs try to hit it onto the green the day before the sawgrass, before the TPC, I mean.

Speaker 2 And like 90% of them hit it in the water on their first shot. And then of those guys that hit in the water, like 90% of that 90% hit in the water again on their second shot.

Speaker 1 I'd still be standing there.

Speaker 2 I'd just hold it out. I'd swish it.

Speaker 1 It would go right in the cup. No problem.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's do who's back of the week. Hank, you ready? I'm ready.
Who's back of the week? Who's back of the week is baseball. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 World Baseball Classics going on. Wasn't getting a lot of buzz.
It was kind of last week. I was like, damn, baseball is dead.

Speaker 6 There's no buzz around this this weekend. It was it was popping off.
A lot of good clips. Great Britain's jerseys.
Great Britain's jerseys.

Speaker 6 Look like they lost their jerseys the night before and they had to like go to the jersey store like down the street and just print jerseys as quick as they could. Like we need jerseys in an hour.

Speaker 6 Yeah. What can you do for us? We just need the words Great Britain on them.
All right, that's good enough.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they got ironed on there.

Speaker 2 How big are the bases?

Speaker 1 Are they big? I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't think that they're not big enough for me to care about baseball. They need to be 20% bigger.

Speaker 6 Did you see the Shohei clip? No. He hit a home run and all a woman caught the ball, and then everyone in the.

Speaker 1 Is he playing for U.S.?

Speaker 6 No. No.

Speaker 1 That's bullshit. We should get him.

Speaker 6 Everyone in the crowd, they passed the ball around, and everyone in the crowd got to take a picture, and then they nicely brought the ball back to the original girl. It was so respectful.

Speaker 6 And it was like, that would never happen.

Speaker 1 Is this like the upside-down world of Philly? Yeah, pretty much. What the hell's going on? It's good culture.

Speaker 2 No, I think that means that Japan's a bad sports town. I think a real sports town.

Speaker 1 Is that where it's taking place? No, but that's what. I think it's all over the place.
Yeah, but the fans think so. They're doing home games?

Speaker 2 There were Japanese fans that were passing it around to themselves. A real sports culture would have been so drunk that they would have thrown up on each other and then fought over the ball.

Speaker 1 See, this is another thing with the Twitter broken. I like saw, I'd see it like once every, I don't know, a couple hours.
I'd be like, oh, that's going on. I just.

Speaker 1 March is college basketball. This is my same argument with XFL.
Like, March is college basketball.

Speaker 2 In the World Baseball Classic, they should at least, if they're not going to have the bigger bases, let them use aluminum bats. Yeah, that would be sick.
Just hear, yeah.

Speaker 2 Like Schwarber would be going yard all over.

Speaker 1 Is Schwarber playing? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm in. I'm in.
All right, that's it. I'm in.
Captain America, you should have started with Swarberger.

Speaker 2 We should just call him Captain America. Yeah, you should have started

Speaker 1 Captain America.

Speaker 6 And then also.

Speaker 2 By the way, we should say on this podcast, the fact that they call it Chinese Taipei is bullshit. That's Taiwan.
We recognize Taiwan on this podcast.

Speaker 2 We're not communists, are we?

Speaker 1 Hell no. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 6 I don't think so either, but I don't. I need to do my own research.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank's got to wait for all the facts to come out.

Speaker 6 No, I still want you to speak for me. That seemed pretty.

Speaker 1 Don't put words in my mouth.

Speaker 2 Oh, so you guys are

Speaker 1 the CP apologies. We don't know yet.
We're going to have to. It's fine.
This seems like an ongoing issue.

Speaker 2 You guys love China.

Speaker 1 When did it.

Speaker 1 When did it. Did you just add Trump to your repetition? China? He's Australian.

Speaker 1 You're the last guy to add Trump to your.

Speaker 2 No, it's Australian Trump. This wool is going to be 10 feet high.

Speaker 1 The Chinese.

Speaker 1 I'll side with Taiwan.

Speaker 2 Good, good. Hank? What if they give us the bag?

Speaker 1 I've been convinced. What if the CCP gives us the bag? No, I'm siding with Taiwan.
I don't think they're... We're going live tour.

Speaker 2 They don't allow this podcast in China.

Speaker 1 Okay. We're going live tour.
Hank?

Speaker 6 I'll get back to you.

Speaker 6 Give me some time. Don't pressure me.

Speaker 1 Okay. Sounds good.

Speaker 6 And then

Speaker 6 in the real shocking news of the weekend, the strip club that John Morant was at.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was mine.

Speaker 1 Okay, sorry.

Speaker 6 I'll wait for that.

Speaker 2 No, that's okay. It was a great visual.

Speaker 6 Well, yeah, I was just like, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 I have the strip club that John Morant went to.

Speaker 6 He was in a private room throwing money and getting a lap dancer.

Speaker 1 This is crazy. They asked,

Speaker 1 Shotgun Willie's is the strip club. So John Morant's all the way back because Shotgun Willie's owner came out and said he spent over 50K on tips a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1 He said this kid, real young, was exceptionally respectful and sweet, and he did not drink. He's marvelous.

Speaker 2 He gets it.

Speaker 1 I feel like Shotgun Willie's making a bad business decision here. Why? I don't think you want to blow up the spot of your famous clientele that's dropping 50K.

Speaker 2 No, but it's good.

Speaker 2 Why is that bad?

Speaker 1 That looks good for John Morant.

Speaker 6 It does, but I think other players are wanting

Speaker 6 to worry about their pictures being out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, other players going to a strip club and dropping 50K and Shotgun Willies does a press release.

Speaker 2 I think they didn't put the pictures out there. I think that was somebody else.
That was in the investigation, I think. Either way.
Somebody leaked it.

Speaker 2 I think it's like, if you're John Morant, the pictures, did you see the pictures? Yeah, I see.

Speaker 1 So the most in that.

Speaker 2 The craziest part of the picture was that John Morant in the VIP section, he had papered every surface in this massive VIP room with cash. There were tables.

Speaker 1 There were booths.

Speaker 2 The floor was covered in cash. It was a snow globe of cash when he walked in.
That looked awesome.

Speaker 2 I saw that and I thought to myself, I may have been premature in discussing how immature John Morant was because the interior decorating that he did with money.

Speaker 2 I want to have a room in the house that I buy that's just wallpapered with money.

Speaker 1 Here's a point to my side, though. Maybe the horniest man online and in the world, Stephen A.
Smith, is very upset.

Speaker 1 Stephen A. No, Stephen, well, he also is, but Stephen A.
Smith said, what do people think happens here? Why is the club releasing these? Feels like a massive invasion of privacy.

Speaker 1 Why would any big spenders go there ever again? Stephen A. Smith goes to to Shotgun Willies all the time.
That's what I'm reading from this. And then he followed up with saying, you know what?

Speaker 1 I have a lot of feelings about the John Moranch strip club photos being released. Frankly, I'm ticked off about the whole situation.
He, like, Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Smith is probably a preeminent strip club goer. Yeah.
And he's now got to be on red alert that Shotgun Willies is airing dirty laundry.

Speaker 2 Well, we don't know that Shotgun Willies released the photo.

Speaker 1 But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 Shotgun Willie. He's not been released by the police that are investigating.

Speaker 1 But the owner

Speaker 1 talked about it.

Speaker 2 The owner could have just been like no i never saw him the owner saying like he was very respectful we love him i would be okay with that i'm

Speaker 6 sorry i'm siding with stephen a smith he's a he's a strip club guy you know he's a strip club guy it's also obviously a very uh serious topic but gilbert arenas has had some some hilarious lines and the whole thing oh yeah he said he was a uh he called john moran a philanthropist donating 50k to a local community

Speaker 6 and i think he said like at least when i got caught like i was trying to get money from someone or like there was a reason why i was caught like got in trouble with guns I wasn't just flashing it for Instagram.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's like, to my credit,

Speaker 2 I was trying to rob my teammate. Yeah.

Speaker 6 No, he was like, yeah, my teammate owe me money and I had to get it.

Speaker 1 He also had a story about, you told the story about Mellow saying that like David Stern just went in and like strong-armed him.

Speaker 1 He had a story about that too, that when all of it went down, David Stern was like, we have two options, 50-game suspension or

Speaker 1 you don't take the suspension, I just take all your money. And he was like, okay,

Speaker 1 and Gilbert was like, all right, see you you next year. And that was it.

Speaker 2 That was the negotiation. One of my favorite stories about, I think it was when Gilbert Arias was on the Wizards with Deshaun Stevenson.

Speaker 2 Deshaun Stevenson used to keep an ATM in his house. He had an ATM installed in his house because he would have parties all the time.

Speaker 2 He'd have strippers over, and then he knew that his teammates would spend a shitload of money on him. So he had an ATM with like $9.99 service transaction fees.

Speaker 2 So he was just taking a tax from all of his teammates every time they come over to his race.

Speaker 1 It's like Jimmy Butler and his coffee.

Speaker 2 That's hustling, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
All right, who's your who's back?

Speaker 2 My who's back of the week is Kirk Cousins because we've got a video coming out tomorrow, right, Max?

Speaker 2 Correct. From Super Bowl week.
Correct. I did a little one-on-one

Speaker 2 slinging it with Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 2 We just passed the ball back and forth, and I put him through the ringer about what to do if he was presented with an option like he had at the end of the season against the Giants this year.

Speaker 2 Who's he going to pass the ball to? Does he make the right decision? Does he fuck it up? Who knows? You have to tune in tomorrow and figure it out. It's Steven Chase in it, right? Stephen Chase in it.

Speaker 2 Steven, it's me and Kirk throwing the ball back and forth and then Chase, my guy on the sidelines, that catches the ball for me. So I don't break any fingers.
You don't want that or

Speaker 2 that's below my pay grade to catch balls.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 2 Who's back?

Speaker 2 Your face.

Speaker 7 My face is back.

Speaker 1 We were given a picture over the weekend that we promised to not release. Billy's face was in a bad place on Friday night.

Speaker 7 Now that my face is back.

Speaker 1 You can release it. You should release it.
Release the pictures.

Speaker 7 Well, maybe. We'll find the right time.

Speaker 1 You look like you just got stung by a thousand bees.

Speaker 7 I look like I got my face beat like a bad beat.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. Remember when Aaron Rodgers doesn't sign with the Jets? Yeah.
You gotta release it.

Speaker 7 Oh, if he signs, I'll release it.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 And if he doesn't sign, if he retires, you never have to release it.

Speaker 7 I'll just put it in the Aaron Rodgers blog. I post it.
So please click on it.

Speaker 1 There you go. There we go.

Speaker 1 That's okay.

Speaker 2 You remember when Sidney Crosby had mumps? That's kind of what you looked like.

Speaker 1 It also was just funny having Billy text us out of the the blue being like, I'm going to send you a picture if you promise not to tweet it. Credit to us.
We all had to promise.

Speaker 2 Thanks, guys.

Speaker 1 Credit to stop me in my tracks. Really, credit to the Conference Championship Friday.
Because if it wasn't that, I would have tweeted it. Yeah.
Also,

Speaker 1 I barely saw the text.

Speaker 2 It was a great Billy moment because it was on Friday and he was like, hey, guys, I can't work on Sunday because this is what my face looks like right now.

Speaker 2 And we saw it and we were like, yeah, you know what? He's kind of right. He shouldn't have come into the office.

Speaker 7 If I still look like that, I don't think I would have have come into the office.

Speaker 2 You're very jowly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 But my who's back is a unified world heavyweight belt.

Speaker 7 There's a possibility that for the first time since April 2000, one heavyweight boxer may be able to hold all of the belts.

Speaker 7 And that's because Tyson Fury put up the proposition to Alexander Yusuk that if he took a 70-30 split with him, he would fight him to unify all the belts.

Speaker 7 It's not official, but they're looking at April 29th for Wembley. But Tyson Fury said, I get 70%, you get 30%.

Speaker 7 And every day that you don't accept this offer, you get less a percent.

Speaker 1 That's awesome.

Speaker 7 Usik, Usik called him on it. He said, as long as you donate a million dollars to Ukraine, I'll take the fight.
And it sounds like it's going ahead.

Speaker 7 So, Tyson, this is going to be a great match because Tyson's been boxing a lot of bigger guys who aren't as skilled, big right hands. I mean,

Speaker 7 the Fury Wilder trilogy was insane. I mean, the Joshua Usik fight was amazing.
I'm actually super pumped for this because, you know, Usik is going to go the distance with him. He's got the

Speaker 7 He's got the stamina. He's got, you know, the feet.
I think this is going to be a really good fight.

Speaker 1 Are they going to add Rough and Rowdy's belt to it? I mean, that's not all the belts. True.
True. We've got to unify all the belts.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 They should make a belt that's made out of all the other belts.

Speaker 1 And that's what you get. Like the Iron Throne.
Yeah. That would be sick.
I'm just hyped.

Speaker 2 I would watch that if it was a giant belt.

Speaker 1 And then they just make the last two rounds really suck. And the kid in the wheelchair wins it.
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 spoiler. Are you over it yet, Hank? Over what? Game of Thrones?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 1 Still upset?

Speaker 2 I mean, imagine the clitschoes in Game of Thrones. Once I start to reach out, we just could beat the shit out of each other and probably make out at some point.

Speaker 1 It hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 7 I actually think Usa could beat Fury.

Speaker 7 That's where I think Fury's been trying to duck him.

Speaker 1 For the big belt? For all the belts. All the belts.
All the belts.

Speaker 7 And also, some guy's suing Buffalo Wild Wings for having boneless wings. He says that they're really chicken nuggets and that they've been selling an inferior product for an upmarket price.

Speaker 2 What does he think boneless wings are?

Speaker 1 This guy, he just figured this out now.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he's like, Buffalo Wild Wings has been fucking me over, and he's suing them.

Speaker 2 There should be a law that if you have a dumb enough lawsuit, that you can then open yourself to get sued by everybody that has to read about it.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wait till he finds out that French fries aren't from France.
Yeah. Wait, what?

Speaker 6 Also,

Speaker 6 economic meltdowns. World's going to crash today.
Is that a thing? No? We're good? No.

Speaker 1 Silicon Valley Bank? I read a Twitter thread.

Speaker 1 Pretty much.

Speaker 1 Those guys are fucking crooks. They knew it was going to collapse.
They all sold their stock right before. Lock them up.
Throw them next to Hillary in jail. Done.

Speaker 6 What about everything else?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. We just print more money, dude.
If you run out of money, the government prints more money. That's how it works.

Speaker 2 The thing is, money is not even real. Right.

Speaker 1 We just added onto the deficit. Or not, no, what are the

Speaker 1 debt? The debt? The debt. Yeah.
Dude, that debt, you think we're ever going to pay that debt?

Speaker 2 No chance. My favorite is when people are like, think about it like it's your household credit card bill.
There's a lot more shit that goes on in the national debt.

Speaker 2 You can just add a number to it if you want to. Dude,

Speaker 1 we need like a 10 million leg parlay to get out of this debt. Oh, you remember? We're never getting out of that debt.

Speaker 2 You remember when people are like, Gamble responsible. Just print the $1 trillion coin? We should do that.
Yeah. Just print, just make a coin and then tell me that the money's real.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know why you don't have to pay the debt?

Speaker 1 Why? Nukes. Yeah.
That is true. Come get it.
That is true. You won't.

Speaker 2 That is true. Are you going to break my legs?

Speaker 1 We're basically like the bat, like the tough-ass dude on the block who borrows the tools from his neighbor.

Speaker 2 He's like, they're my tools now. Say something about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're not going to get it. You know what?

Speaker 2 I wish somebody would try to collect on that debt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, Hank, don't worry. Like, people are going to freak out, whatever.
Maybe we'll just make more money on GameStop, Diamond Hands, that shit. But we'll be fine.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 6 All right. Yeah, I was just checking.
I was curious, but now I'm good.

Speaker 1 Okay, good. It was funny, the clip of Jim Kramer just being like, SVP,

Speaker 1 SVB, sorry, SVP. SVB has the fundamentals for a huge bounce back.
This was like a few months ago. He's like, bye, bye, bye.
Boom. Gone.
It's all the nerds in fucking California.

Speaker 1 They had a little bank with their friends. It went under.
Who cares?

Speaker 2 And I think people were telling every company that they were investing in, like, I'll only invest in you if you put the money in Silicon Valley Bank. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude, they all sold their stock.

Speaker 1 They're crooks.

Speaker 1 they're not going to go to jail but they should go to jail i was yeah in that twitter thread that some guy had uh all the percentages that like the basically the entire c-suite sold in in like february and then i don't know what you got to be to be like a rich guy simp online but another person responded is like we have to double check because that's actually when bonuses come in so that might have been a scheduled payment of all the

Speaker 1 sell-off it's like dude you really went online to be like hey these guys who who ran a bank that has now gone under, we should wait and make sure because we don't want to accuse someone of something wrong here.

Speaker 2 The real take that you should have at all times is anybody that makes more money than you should be in jail. Correct.

Speaker 1 And if you disagree with that, no, and anyone who makes 10x what you make, we should eat.

Speaker 2 Guillotine. Yeah, we should

Speaker 1 eat the rich.

Speaker 2 And then if you disagree with that, then you're a bootlicker.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. These are big time economics.
We just took all the AWLs to Econ 101. Print more money.

Speaker 1 Hate people who are are more rich than you.

Speaker 1 And if someone wants to fucking come and try to collect this debt, try us.

Speaker 2 Yeah, my general rules of thumb are if they make more money than me, they're evil. If they're younger than I am, then they're a Zoomer bitch.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they probably will like, like,

Speaker 1 they'll probably do like the knockout game with me and put me on TikTok. Yes.

Speaker 2 This is why I eat like shit all the time is because I know that anyone younger than me that wants to eat me,

Speaker 1 good luck.

Speaker 1 I'm not putting it past Billy for one day to just like sucker punch me and just be like, TikTok, knock out games back.

Speaker 1 Fuck, dude. I got caught.
What are you going to do about it? Can't really do anything.

Speaker 2 Or else you're a boomer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, he got me. Ultimate prank.
Knock someone out who's not looking.

Speaker 1 That's top-level humor.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's get to Mark Titus.
Let's talk about the bracket. We're going to break it all down.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 we're able to book an elusive special guest. It is Mark Titus back

Speaker 1 in studio.

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Speaker 1 first of all how have your first two weeks at parcel been i've enjoyed it uh i everyone's been very kind to me everyone everyone everyone i noticed though who's your no no who's your least favorite person so far uh honestly brandon yeah brandon brandon walker

Speaker 1 all of us and i'm and and and the the really stupid part about that about saying brandon is he's going to think it's like a bit and he's going to be like yes they're talking about me which is what he wants but like i'm just answering that genuinely yeah brandon brandon brandon texting me at all times anytime anything goes well for me he's like this is bullshit this should have been mine yep and anytime anytime anything goes poorly for me he's like you suck yeah he reminds you of it so i i think you've been uh fitting in seamlessly i did have my first red flag happen tonight on a cultural fit uh we're in the office right now the office water is shut off because of uh construction or something hey uh max had to go take a shit at macy's shout out macy's no free ads shout out, Macy's.

Speaker 1 Titus was like, I'm going to go to my hotel room and take a piss real quick. I was like, bro, just piss in this jug.
And he looked at me like, what?

Speaker 1 It felt like an HR trap that you were like, just go ahead and piss in this bottle. I promise nothing wrong.
Do I have permission to pee in any jugs during this interview?

Speaker 1 I mean, you can do what you want around here, Casey. So that permission, is that permission?

Speaker 2 You're not going to sue us if we pee.

Speaker 1 No. No.
I felt like I don't think I have performed.

Speaker 1 Let's not get upset about a little piss in a jug.

Speaker 2 You've been an indoor cat for a while, Mark. Now, this is like letting your indoor cat outside for the first time, like go cause some ruckus in the bushes.
Yeah. Pee wherever you want.

Speaker 1 Fox doesn't do anything about Rossman. They don't.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's talk about the brackets.
Let's do the bracket. Let's fucking get into the bracket.
Let's talk about the brackets.

Speaker 1 So, Jake and I just got done recording my show where we filled out our entire brackets. And the only way I would describe my process with this was I felt like I was at war.

Speaker 1 I felt like this is a legacy play for me this year. Okay.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I have the last two years, my national champion has lost in the first round of my bracket that's tough it's tough um you're an expert though i won a national championship in 2019 with virginia but then covet happened and the haters are saying that i've lost my touch and i don't know what i'm doing and i'm not an expert and so this is a legacy play for me and i can feel it i can feel the pressure going into this tournament now when you won with virginia did you you so you picked virginia to win the year after they got eliminated right as the one seed to the 16 seed right that's pretty good i I thought so.

Speaker 1 I thought at that point I had arrived.

Speaker 1 But the haters are saying that was a one-off.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's cut to the chase. You have to win two titles to be a legend.
Yes, you do. I've only won one.
Who's on Champagne?

Speaker 2 Who's it going to be this year?

Speaker 1 Well, you want him to reveal his winner?

Speaker 2 Well, I want to know who not to bet on right off the bat. And then people can skip the rest of this interview.
Skip the whole interview. Oh, my God, Mark Tyson is on every show now.

Speaker 1 So when we sat down to fill out the bracket, this was not my intent. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 You didn't do it, DJ. I did it.
I did it, Dan.

Speaker 1 They're criminals. I know they are.
You took Alabama? I took Alabama.

Speaker 1 I was filling it out, and it just happened.

Speaker 2 Did they circle the wagons? Is Alabama like it's us against the world? And

Speaker 2 criminal justice.

Speaker 1 It was that. It was

Speaker 1 they play the best defense, I think, in the country. They have the best player in the country, probably.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
I didn't mean for it to happen. It was just wrong place, wrong time, I guess.
Because I was filling out the

Speaker 1 bracket. You can only control what happens while you're filling out your bracket.
Everything you can do.

Speaker 1 It was out of my control.

Speaker 2 You asked Jake to bring your bracket to you. Does that implicate Jake as well?

Speaker 1 That's true. And Jake actually texted the bracket is hot.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I did not.

Speaker 2 Who'd you take, Jake?

Speaker 5 I took Arizona.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I didn't like that piece for Jake.

Speaker 2 You just did that piece of pain.

Speaker 1 But Jake, as I pointed out on the show, Jake is a storyline slut, and he just liked. I just aligned all the stories.
He was just going crazy for... He ultimately had Tommy Lloyd versus Mark Few.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. In an Arizona Konzaga game.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 I have all blue blood playing in the garden down the street in the Sweet 16.

Speaker 1 Oh, gosh.

Speaker 2 Yeah. They're just stuff you want to see for the good of the game.

Speaker 1 Exactly. All right.
Now, you're a big Mark Few guy, right, Jake?

Speaker 5 I mean, besides having them in the national championship game, I do not condone

Speaker 1 what you're setting me up for. Just bringing his dogs back from a little lake house thing?

Speaker 1 Maybe. Disavow.

Speaker 2 Maybe Montphew is just really allergic to dogs, and that's why he was driving erratically. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Those dogs were all over him when he got that DUI. Okay.

Speaker 1 Should we go? Let's go region by region. Let's talk region by region.

Speaker 1 By the way, I have a little trivia for you to start. You ready for this? So when you're filling out your bracket, just remember, because everyone always fills out their bracket.

Speaker 1 I think what happens is I call it the Dickie V bracket, where you blindly start filling it out, and then you look up and you're like, I have three ones and a two. That's what happened to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Dickie V bracket. That was my bracket.
Now, it's hard to predict, but since 2012, there's only been one year that there hasn't been a seven or higher in the final four.

Speaker 1 So there's every year there's been at least one seed has been broken every bracket. Do you remember what year it was?

Speaker 1 Every year there's been a seven or higher. Since 2012.
At least one

Speaker 1 in the final four. I don't know.
My brain doesn't work that way.

Speaker 1 I can't think of it. It was your year.

Speaker 1 oh really 2019 uva texas tech michigan state and auburn auburn yeah yeah the lowest seed there was a five seed so just keep that in mind okay when you're filling out your bracket there's gonna be someone who crashes the party i i i did go and you did the dickie v i did the dickie v yeah and i i i acknowledged it as i was doing it but as i keep saying like this is a legacy play for me and i don't have time to get cute i this is not a this tournament is very serious to me and like i don't that's the problem is like i i get that you got to take a big swing but you take a big swing and miss yeah no You look like a fucking moron, and I'm not in a position to make myself look like a moron.

Speaker 1 Yes, I agree. All right.
So let's go through it.

Speaker 1 Let's go through it. We'll go

Speaker 1 how you read. So we'll start with the South.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Let's do big picture in the South, and then we can all pick who we have coming out of the South. Big picture is this is super fun.
These teams are fun to watch.

Speaker 1 If you're someone who hates watching college basketball because you think that there's not enough points, that the kids can't make open shots, all that sort of thing, this is the region for you.

Speaker 1 Alabama can score a ton of points in a hurry.

Speaker 1 They are, obviously, I picked them to win it all, but they shoot a ton of threes. They play up tempo.

Speaker 1 They're awesome to watch just in terms of pure basketball, as long as they're not throwing the ball over the gym.

Speaker 1 Arizona.

Speaker 1 There's a couple other as long as

Speaker 1 Alabama.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But yeah.
They take a ton of shots. Yes.

Speaker 1 They do.

Speaker 1 That is actually a fact. That's literally.
Not a lot of charges on them. That is true.
Or

Speaker 2 their friends take a lot of shots. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, he was on the team.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Arizona plays very fast as well, scores a lot of points. They're fun to watch.
They are very fun. They're super fun.
Yeah. I think we touched on this when you were on the two weeks ago.
If you aren't.

Speaker 1 Arizona is very fun for a lot of reasons. They have two very skilled big guys.

Speaker 1 They have...

Speaker 1 Who's their... Who's the guard? Not Kirk Creesa.
Courtney Raimi. Yeah, he's very, very good.

Speaker 1 And Kirk Creesa is like, if you miss the days, if you're like, oh, man, I wish we had like a Bobby Hurley like point guard that we can all hate, Kurt Creesa is that guy.

Speaker 1 He will like pump up the crowd when someone else does something good on his team. Yes.
And then he will throw it off someone's face. He is that guy.

Speaker 1 I think I said this on the show when I was on last time, though. He also has a tinge of self-sabotage.
When things start going well,

Speaker 1 he just, he can't help himself. He has to throw an alley hoop over the backboard.

Speaker 1 He's also got a tiny mini Grayson Allen in him where like once a game, he'll get in, like, he'll get, like, legs tangled up, and you'll be like, Did anyone take a nutshot there?

Speaker 1 He doesn't go all the way, so I'm not going to put that on him.

Speaker 1 But there's a lot of like, there'll be little moments where, you know, or even, you know, when the guy comes up to the coach's box to call a timeout, you know, advances it to half court, and he'll try to steal it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he'll be like, yo, dude, chill out. Like, he'll have those.
He lives in the gray area, basically. He loves living in that gray area.
I like that he's a game. They are very fun to watch.

Speaker 1 So Arizona's that. Baylor, the three-seed, is also that.
They score a ton of their three-guard lineup that they all shoot threes and make a ton of threes, and that's like their whole M.O.

Speaker 1 They're not going to win the national championship because they don't think their defense is good enough, but they are. They're bad recently.
They are so fun to watch.

Speaker 1 And I just think on down the line, like Virginia is not quite as fun as they can be, obviously. So that kind of starts to fall apart at the 4-5.
But Creighton, I think, is a fun team.

Speaker 1 NC State's a fun team. Missouri is another team that gets up and down, and they score a ton of points.
Yeah, Missouri-Utah State games should be a lot more fun. That'll be fun.

Speaker 2 Is that going to be one of those situations where it's a 10-7, but you think the 10 is going to be favored, or do you think Missouri is going to be favored?

Speaker 1 Well, the Mountain West,

Speaker 1 you should say it. Mountain West is 1-11.
I brought overall since 2016. And if you don't remember the Mountain West last year, they had four teams in the tournament.

Speaker 1 They were eliminated from the tournament in 10 hours. They didn't make it to Friday.
I brought my,

Speaker 1 so before the bracket came out, I was sitting in the hotel room and I jotted down like a manifesto based on, because what happens is when the bracket comes out, I get

Speaker 1 I just get sucked into like I do what Jake does, which is I look at storylines and I think like, wouldn't that be cool if this happened? And I lose all sense of what makes actual sense.

Speaker 1 So I wrote down a bunch of shit before I even saw what the matchups were. So that way it was like a reminder to myself, don't do this when the bracket actually comes out.

Speaker 1 My number one bullet point was Mountain West. They've been to four Sweet 16s in the history of their conference.
Yeah. And the history of the 100-11 since 2016.
Yeah. So I made sure.

Speaker 1 And what was that, just San Diego State when they were really good? Yeah, they went to two. And then Musk with Nevada went to one.
Yeah, I think. Oh, I love that team so much.

Speaker 2 They had the twins then, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yes. They were so much fun.

Speaker 2 I'm just looking at, I go by, my Bible is the Kin Pom luck statistic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a great stat.

Speaker 2 Missouri is the luckiest team that is, you know, from a power conference.

Speaker 1 Are they really a tournament?

Speaker 2 Yeah. So it's Missouri and then Kansas.

Speaker 2 Kansas is also a very lucky team. I'm not going to bet against Kansas.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that. Do you think they factored in Bill Self having to go to the hospital? Well, Bill Self.
That was unlucky.

Speaker 2 No, that was planned. It's lucky that they caught it in time.
We were saying

Speaker 2 put in.

Speaker 1 I hope Bill Self is okay. I actually used my one thoughts and prayers on Friday to Bill Self, but we were joking before that it would be funny if he came back and he was just fully bald.

Speaker 1 And it was like, it was a Joe Buck. Like, he actually was getting hair plugs and something went wrong.
They're like, we're going to have to, like,

Speaker 1 like all quiet on the Western Front, like, we're going to have to take off the leg. We're going to have to take off the hair, Bill.
Yeah. Like, it's suffocating you.
You can't breathe.

Speaker 1 It would be awesome.

Speaker 2 Bill Self, as a bald guy, I would actually bet the farm on. Yes.
Like, he's finally living his authentic life at that point.

Speaker 1 You're Virginia who's... So that would be...
I'm going to circle that as maybe one of my upsets. Furman.

Speaker 1 Furman bombs.

Speaker 2 You should actually Mark Furman. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mark Furman. Yeah.
Furman bombs. They just chuck.

Speaker 1 And that's how you can beat Virginia. Because the pack line defense, they're going to, like, if you could just shoot over them, you might have a chance.

Speaker 1 As the preeminent Tony Bennett lover,

Speaker 1 I'm not saying the game.

Speaker 1 I'm worried that maybe, like, as everyone has started to figure out that three is worth more than two, and as every team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Steph Curry, I think, taught us that in 2016. And then it's starting to make its way to Middle America.
And all these teams are starting to learn that.

Speaker 1 I am worried that the pack line might be a thing.

Speaker 1 It might not have, its heyday might have come and gone.

Speaker 2 Now, would it be fun to watch UVA against Alabama?

Speaker 1 Like two completely opposite styles of matching.

Speaker 1 I think Alabama would be a good one. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think Alabama will win by 40. Because I think what would happen is Alabama will get up like 15 to 2.

Speaker 1 Virginia can't come back.

Speaker 1 So I'm clear. Like if they played, I would 100% cheer for Virginia to win that game, but

Speaker 1 I wouldn't have much faith in Virginia. Yeah, definitely.
So that's one of my upsets.

Speaker 1 Also, I have a question for you because we're going to get to more of these, but how would you classify a revenge game? Because that's everyone's favorite storyline.

Speaker 1 I saw someone tweet West Virginia, Maryland, the Mello Trimble revenge game. Yeah, no one remembers it.

Speaker 1 Who remembers? No, who could remember?

Speaker 1 It was obviously a Maryland fan. Was it Jeff D.
Lowe?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was just like insane. This is too far in revenge games.

Speaker 1 This can't be a revenge game of a guy who went to Maryland like eight years ago.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Not a revenge game, but the winner of that game should get Frostburg.
That's the closest city I can think of to that border. There we go.
That is, it's a border war, is what it is.

Speaker 1 It is. West Virginia is another fun team, by the way.
Yes, they are. Throw them in the region of fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like the most fun outcomes are our West Virginia-Bama game would be fun in the second round. Creighton Baylor would be fun.
Missouri, Arizona would be a ton of fun.

Speaker 1 Charleston, Furman would be awesome. Charleston-Furman would be fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that to me, the South as a region is the most fun region for sure in terms of if you have, if you're like all three of us are, where our schools are not in this thing and we're just uh here for a good time for a second i just like saying charleston

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 sounds like somebody that's in like the alec murdaught trial yeah is that rivalry isn't furman down that way by south carolina i think is it in south carolina yeah i think it is south carolina yeah in-state rivalry yes that is an in-state rivalry uh yeah this they the the the bracket the the whoever makes the bracket the NCAA they did it right in the fact that Alabama was the number one team they deserved it I don't like them but they deserved it.

Speaker 1 You can even look through their entire season. I don't think they ever lost back-to-back games.
They had a couple, they, what, lost four games? One of them was Gonzaga Neutral site. Like,

Speaker 1 they were good all year long. They deserved the one seed, and they by far have the easiest region.

Speaker 1 Like, if they don't win, I said this before on our show, but if Alabama doesn't go to the Final Four, this is the biggest failure in all of sports.

Speaker 1 What I back you up on is because this is the fun region, I think every one of these teams will, when Alabama wants to get up and go and try to score a ton of points, every single, all the best teams in this region, except for,

Speaker 1 by seed, except for Virginia and San Diego State, probably, the rest of them are going to nod along and be like, yeah, we want to play this style of basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's do this. And it's not going to work out well for him.
Unless, in that regard, it's a great draw for him. Maybe they're not hitting their threes.
Yeah. You have to make shots.

Speaker 1 I know how this is going to go. Alabama is going to win the national title, and every game would be like, this is the game.
They're not going to hit it. They're threes.

Speaker 1 They're just going to keep hitting their threes. But that's why

Speaker 1 they're not just the three-point shooting team.

Speaker 1 They're so long and athletic. They're play great.
I know.

Speaker 1 I hate it. I hate it.
Length is important. So you have Bama coming out of this region.

Speaker 1 I have Bama

Speaker 1 over Baylor somehow, which I don't love this Baylor team, but I just like every matchup, it just felt like

Speaker 1 they're a guard-oriented team, and I felt like that mattered, but their defense stinks. Their defense stinks.
It has been really bad.

Speaker 1 You know what, Jake? I apologize. Wait, you have Arizona winning at all? All right, so I don't apologize.
I'm going to take Arizona to get to the Final Four just because it's anyone but Pama.

Speaker 1 That's fair. And I respect that.
And I think that's what most people should do. But I have my legacy on the line here, so I have to.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, it tells me that you're picking with your head,

Speaker 2 not with your heart. Yeah.
You're a true analyst.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 What do you got, PFT?

Speaker 2 You know.

Speaker 1 Want to jump on the cats?

Speaker 2 Mark makes a good point about Alabama.

Speaker 1 You want to do some fuckboy shit with Kirk Creasa?

Speaker 2 No, you know what I'm going to go with?

Speaker 1 He is a fuckboy. He's a total fuckboy.

Speaker 2 Talk me out of NC State, make it a little rough.

Speaker 1 Talk me out of the Wolfpack. Well, if you're a Clemson fan listening to this right now, you have to be very upset because Clemson did not make the tournament.

Speaker 1 Rutgers was the main one that everyone's upset about. But Clemson didn't make the tournament.
Clemson beat NC State by 1,000 on whatever it was, Friday or Thursday. That was an absolute ass kicking.

Speaker 2 NC State was wrestling their best players.

Speaker 1 They knew they were going to make the tournament. That one, I would be really pissed if I were a Clemson fan right now.
So, I don't know. NC State has not.
The ACC has been weak this year.

Speaker 2 What about San Diego State?

Speaker 1 Mountain West. Yeah.

Speaker 2 This might be the year they turn it again.

Speaker 2 I predict the Mountain West will make it

Speaker 2 to the second round.

Speaker 1 Somebody from the Mountain West will win. San Diego State is a team that I have wanted to believe in all year.
There are a handful of these teams.

Speaker 1 As we get to other regions, I'll talk about more of them. But it's a team that on paper at the start of the season, I was like, this team's going to be freaking awesome.

Speaker 1 And all season, even when they lose, I'm like, the pieces are there. The pieces are there.
If they can just, if they could just.

Speaker 1 And I've never really seen the San Diego State I've wanted to see all year. But yet they're a five seed.

Speaker 1 They have a decent draw and they've been playing well. They've been playing well.
They haven't lost.

Speaker 1 I have wanted to believe in San Diego State all year, and I just can never really fully get there. You know what?

Speaker 2 I'm going to do it. I'm going to get there.
There you go.

Speaker 1 San Diego State. Get yourself a Matt Bradley jersey.
You're getting there? I'm getting there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm switching back and forth between Alabama.

Speaker 1 Between the Mountain West, the Mountain West and the SEC right now.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say it.

Speaker 2 San Diego State.

Speaker 1 Why not? Listen, if they make it more than 10 hours, they will have a successful tournament. They play in Orlando.
I don't know if any Mountain West teams have Friday games.

Speaker 1 They hopefully do, so they can not have.

Speaker 1 That was just 10 hours. That broke me.
Last year,

Speaker 1 Colorado State was the one that I wanted to believe in.

Speaker 1 I was really high on Colorado State and David Roddy. David Roddy.
Yeah, they were so fun. And they lost to Michigan.
But that game was like an indie, wasn't it? Yeah. Which was horseshit.

Speaker 1 Michigan was an 11th seed and got to play Colorado State in the game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was tough. All right.
East Region, New York City. Yep.
Purdue is the number one seed.

Speaker 1 I don't. I think Purdue is good.
I think they've been fading, but

Speaker 1 they just won the Big Ten tournament, so obviously they played well, but they were fading in Big Ten regular season play.

Speaker 1 Just seeing Purdue as a one seed, I'm like,

Speaker 1 someone's going to beat it.

Speaker 2 It's repulsive. So this, I have Purdue.
I've had a future on them for quite some time.

Speaker 1 That's right. I forgot this is.

Speaker 2 I'm watching this. I'm watching Purdue play over the last week, and especially today, especially the second half against Penn State.

Speaker 2 This is shaping up to be a repeat of my doink bet in the Super Bowl all over again. Because Purdue's going to be their

Speaker 2 prohibitive one. What are they, the number two ranked team right now? Did they get the overall two? Houston was Houston.

Speaker 2 I think they're the fourth.

Speaker 1 They might be the fourth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're the fourth. Okay.

Speaker 2 Well, I was wrong about that, but Purdue's, this feels like the best shot that Purdue's had in a while on paper. Watching them try to navigate the press against Penn State.

Speaker 1 That's exactly it.

Speaker 2 They're going to lose. I'm calling it right now, Purdue's going to lose in a heartbreaking fashion against an inferior opponent.
But I'm going to be rooting for them the entire time.

Speaker 1 Bad draw. Somehow, every coach in the Big Ten waits until they're down 12 with like four minutes left to start pressing Purdue.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. And if one team, just one team, looks at the film and says, wait a second, what if we built the whole airplane out of the black?

Speaker 1 And what if we just press from the start?

Speaker 1 It might work out well for them. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it all is going to come down to how Zach Eady's officiated, honestly.

Speaker 1 If he gets a favorable whistle, Purdue's unstoppable.

Speaker 1 But if, as is, every Big Ten team that loses to Purdue gets butthurt about how Zach Eady got away with everything and never gets called for fouls.

Speaker 1 And I experienced it recently in the Big Ten tournament as the Buckeyes

Speaker 1 got called for like 400 fouls and Edie got called for one and 0-3 seconds.

Speaker 1 But every Big Ten team that goes through it then says, wait till the NCAA tournament when you don't have Big Ten refs, they're going to call so many offensive fouls and over the backs and all that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it'll happen or not, but

Speaker 1 he's gotten a lot better. Yeah.
I mean, he like

Speaker 1 Technic is a lot better. His defense is a lot better.

Speaker 1 There could be a scenario where he goes to make post moves and he turns and like right displaces a defender and the refs are like that's a foul we're gonna call it on you and which they don't call in the big ten and the second round matchup for purdue is either gonna be a memphis team that if you remember that was one of the that was probably the game of the tournament uh against gonzaga last year that was one of the best games of the entire tournament memphis has physical players they have guys that can you know go toe-to-toe with Purdue and they just beat Houston, which is the most physical team.

Speaker 1 And they have Kendrick Davis who could score 40 points. Yeah.
And Purdue is not exactly elite defensively, especially their guard. So, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 And then if Memphis doesn't make it to the second round, Florida Atlantic's really fucking good,

Speaker 1 which I'm kind of rooting for, even though I think Memphis has a better shot against Purdue.

Speaker 1 We would get Zach Edie versus Vadislav. What's his name? Vadislav Golden, the seven-footer for Florida.
I watched last night the UAB game because I was rooting for Jelly.

Speaker 1 This dude's a seven-foot white guy. We're going to have have a hilarious visual of those two going up against each other.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's always very funny when they do call like a seven-foot three guy for over-the-back on someone who's like 6'4

Speaker 2 and they just catch the ball above the other person's head.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, it's not fair what they do to Zach Eddie sometimes because he's so big.

Speaker 2 Sometimes he gets bad whistles. He can't help but be dominant.
I'm still riding with my Boilermakers. I'm just seeing the train that's about, or I guess that's an

Speaker 2 ironic turn of phrase for Purdue, but I'm seeing the train that's about to come through the tunnel and just wipe me out on the track. The train.
I know it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 The train is going to Ohio in the first two rounds, and I don't know if there are any famous instances of trains derailing in Ohio. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. That would be bad symbolism for UPFT.

Speaker 1 But Purdue will be playing in Columbus their first two games. I like Memphis, too.
They play like...

Speaker 1 Purdue's going to be the team that everyone picks, the one seed to lose. Yeah, they will.
That's the team that everyone's going to play.

Speaker 1 And Memphis feels like the team that if they play their best, they are. They can can play with anyone yeah absolutely anyone yeah how how does Purdue not know how to break a press

Speaker 1 their guards are young their guards are you guys are young can't you just throw the ball to get Zach Eady also on the inbound and then have him ditch it to somebody that's coming up the wing their guards are young put it that way yeah and that's what I would do you could also do the the guards uh hit the wall they hit the wall yeah the young guys this season high school basketball doesn't go that long it did look like high school basketball watching yeah try to just bring the ball at the court it was yeah it's young guys they're like why are we still playing yeah right like we're ready for a nap.

Speaker 1 That's really what you got to say if you're a Purdue fan and things go south. Your guards are ready for bedtime.
Yes, yes. Yeah.
No, it is crazy seeing some of these teams. No,

Speaker 1 I'm a little bitter towards Purdue because the Buckeyes were on a dream run there in the Big Ten tournament. And had we beaten Purdue, all we had to do was beat Penn State to make the tournament.

Speaker 1 So I'm a little bitter, but I do go back to what I said last time I was on the show.

Speaker 1 I'm not cheering for Purdue, but if they won the national championship, some small part of me would appreciate how cool it is to now throw out everything we thought we knew about college basketball.

Speaker 1 It would change everything.

Speaker 1 It would change everything. Yeah.

Speaker 2 At least nine or ten guys are going to get laid in West Lafayette

Speaker 1 that night. For the first time ever.
For the three Hot Dogs.

Speaker 1 I don't think they have.

Speaker 2 I feel like that would be the national title among all major sports where more people, more students at that school would lose their virginity than any other. Oh, there's not enough championships.

Speaker 1 There might not be enough. Women wouldn't have to be able to do that.
Well, that's what I'm saying. Sex is sexy.
That's what I'm saying. Like nine or ten guys.

Speaker 1 That would be the headline coming out of West Lafayette. Yeah.
Like, dozens of men got laid tonight. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 It's like that or Neil Armstrong landing on the moon. Which one's more important for Purdue? Yes.
All right. So this region, other teams.
Duke. Duke.
Uh-oh. Duke.
Uh-oh. This is the year, right?

Speaker 2 Like, we were saying before you came on that, like, this would be the ultimate for Duke haters. If you're going to pick one year,

Speaker 1 Duke to win

Speaker 1 for Duke.

Speaker 2 It'd be so funny to see them win.

Speaker 1 I think I would have to agree. I think because

Speaker 1 I don't think John Shire is ever going to be hateable. I don't.
No, I think we don't hate him now because we're comparing him to Kay, but I honestly think in 20 years,

Speaker 1 if he's still a Duke, he's not going to be able to do that. He's going to kid a kid.
Yeah. Like a really small child.
Yeah. Like a five-year-old who's asking for an autograph.

Speaker 1 He just open-hand slaps him in the face.

Speaker 1 The only thing would be, I guess, like, we got to see him when the pressure gets turned up.

Speaker 1 When he gets really old, if he ever gets on the hot seat and he feels the heat that he needs it's like a must-win game and he loses and maybe get a few of those maybe then we'll get to see like a dark side of him but he just feels like he's too maybe yellow maybe maybe it's coach k's got to hit john shire where it's like i expected more out of you yeah slaps him he's like go out or k tries to take his job back and now shire has to like fight fight for him yeah yeah he has to be no

Speaker 2 nice guy yeah and i don't hate him if if he if there was like a a young journalist you know they usually get like a seven or eight year old that goes to cover the games.

Speaker 2 If he lectures a young journalist about asking a bad question after a loss, that would really be

Speaker 2 a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 We are so far away from that, though.

Speaker 1 And this team is like just not, I mean, we talked about it last time, but this team's just like not hatable. And they're playing really well right now.
The thing would be, though,

Speaker 1 the ACC stinks. The ACC stinks.
So you've won nine in a row.

Speaker 1 We acknowledge that. We tip our cap, but also, how good is Duke? I don't know.
I still,

Speaker 1 I'm at, what did I say, Jake, on the show? Six, four and a half, somewhere between four and a half and six. I can't remember on my Duke Panic meter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think I was like four and a half. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But we all. I'm like four and a half that Duke is going to make a Final Four.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 As a joke, well, actually, maybe a little bit of me wants John Shire to win this just because it would be funny to do that narrative. But then you also have to remember that...

Speaker 1 Those are Duke fans that would like die for Coach K. Yeah.
And those people would be happy, and you can't allow that. There are more Duke fans who were fed up with Kay by the end than

Speaker 1 oh, there were really good Germans too? Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 There were a lot of people. I remember being in New Orleans, and I had Duke people like,

Speaker 1 don't share this person. Oh, see, I share this picture.
I remember

Speaker 1 I'm over this man. I remember handing that card to a few Duke people.
No, I'm saying. They're like, this stuff happened? I never knew this.
They didn't teach us in the history books.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying a majority. I'm just saying there was a silent minority.
You are doing a a really good Germans. Yeah.
There were a few really good Germans. They were just doing their jobs.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I will say about Duke, though, Oral Roberts is the best 12-seed.

Speaker 1 And that's a horrible matchup to start.

Speaker 1 That I wrote down on my little manifesto I put together before the bracket came out.

Speaker 2 This is the first time somebody's had a manifesto and hasn't bombed somebody.

Speaker 2 Like that's that's next up.

Speaker 2 What you're just talking about is a blog, actually.

Speaker 1 Wait to see what happens.

Speaker 1 Wait to see what happens with my bracket.

Speaker 1 We might go down that path.

Speaker 1 I wrote down before the bracket even came out that no matter what happens, make sure you have Oral Roberts win at least one game. They didn't lose in conference play.
Yeah. They ran the table.

Speaker 1 They shoot threes. They shoot a ton of threes.
They don't turn the ball over. They have a guard who's been there before, Max Acemus.
This team is way better than the 15 seed that

Speaker 1 won a game against Florida. They beat Florida and then almost beat Arkansas.

Speaker 1 Are you sure about that? Yeah. They did, right, Jake? Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 Jake, am I wrong? They beat Florida. What you said is factually clearly.
That's all. Okay,

Speaker 1 that is my thing.

Speaker 1 They beat Florida.

Speaker 2 Who'd they beat in the first round?

Speaker 1 You also?

Speaker 2 You were two seed?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Oral?

Speaker 5 Damn. PFT, your puns are back for the first time.
PFT has to be.

Speaker 1 I emptied the clip on that one. Play the hits the next week.
Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
You're big.

Speaker 2 You're big to spit out my drink if they win this game.

Speaker 1 Anyway, this team is better than that team. This team is miles better than that team, I think.
All right, so now actually I'm.

Speaker 1 And it is also, like, remember that stretch when Duke was losing in, like, what was it, Lehigh?

Speaker 1 Did Lehigh beat Duke? Yeah, Lehigh beats. C.J.
McCollum. Yeah.
Yeah, C.J. McCollum.
Yeah, like those. It would be fun to go back to that, too.

Speaker 1 And maybe then I'll just, listen, anyone who listened to this show knows that, oh, they're revealing the NIT. Oh, Wisconsin's a three-seed.
Look at that. Huge, great draw.
This is us.

Speaker 1 Oh, Bradley out of the Missouri Valley. Great draw.

Speaker 5 They won the Missouri Valley. They're very good.

Speaker 2 Great draw. This is a stacked NIT right right now.
No UNC cowards. Nova still has not been slept.

Speaker 1 Oh, this could be Nova.

Speaker 5 This could be Nova Max.

Speaker 1 Max versus Big Cat in IT Sweet 16.

Speaker 1 We're not beating Bradley. No chance.
No chance.

Speaker 1 I will stream this Wisconsin Bradley game because I think it's going on at the same time as Mississippi State game. Yeah, it is.
On Tuesday night. So

Speaker 1 what I was going to say was that

Speaker 1 I will, anyone who listened to this show knows that we can. Oh, no, no, no!

Speaker 1 Lenova Liberty. Let's go.
Cheese up, baby. Let's go.
Oh, well, I want you. So that game would be in Madison.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow. That is true.

Speaker 2 Liberty, ironically, is going dancing.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 First time in school history.

Speaker 1 What I was going to say was

Speaker 1 those Duke teams that fumbled. I will now be like, yeah, this is actually Coach K.
I'm putting, if they lose to Oral Roberts, I'll put that on Coach K. You should.
It's Coach Key.

Speaker 1 We can change on a dime here. He recruited those guys.
Yeah, exactly. Bottom line is.
So I'm in a win-win situation.

Speaker 2 If John Shire wins a natty, then it just proves that Coach K completely lost at the end. Duke's better off without him.

Speaker 2 Now, if they lose early, then it's Coach K's fault for recruiting such shitty players.

Speaker 1 Yes, John Shire inherited a terrible situation. Yeah.
Yeah. Coach Kirk.
He did the best that he could bear. Yeah.

Speaker 1 With the number one recruiting class in the country.

Speaker 2 Big question for you here, Titus. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Kentucky. Yeah.

Speaker 2 If they lose in the first round,

Speaker 2 Coach Kilipari,

Speaker 2 Coach Jim Calipari,

Speaker 2 officially hot seat city.

Speaker 1 Hot seat city, yeah. I think

Speaker 1 I really,

Speaker 1 if you're a fan of off-season content, and I know you guys definitely are as it pertains to the Big Blue Nation.

Speaker 1 I cannot imagine what will transpire if John Calapari loses in the first round. Football school.
Yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 I think that's what it is. It's like if they lose in the first round, Kentucky is officially a football school.

Speaker 1 There's also this. Providence, Bryce Hopkins is Providence's best player.
Revenge game. He transferred from Kentucky because he he wasn't getting enough minutes, and he was mad at Cali.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm sure he

Speaker 1 took the high road when he left, but the writing was on the wall. He wanted more minutes.
He's like, I deserve to be playing. I'm going to go to Providence.
He's killing it for Providence.

Speaker 1 If he beats Kentucky and Deblue Nation has to watch a guy who was a Wildcat beat their team and knock him out of the first round yet again,

Speaker 1 that's juicy. That's juicy.
Yeah, Bryce Hopkins revenge game.

Speaker 1 We have two revenge games at this bottom part because if Michigan State, if it holds serve at the bottom, Michigan State and Marquette, we get the Joey Hauser reverse game. That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 Which will be the Hauser should have gone to Wisconsin, whatever. That's not a big deal.
I did slide into their DMs being like, What's up, guys? Come to Madison. I'm not a sure.
Has that ever worked?

Speaker 1 What's the most successful? Caleb Williams, I struck out on pretty hard.

Speaker 1 That one was pretty bad. But yeah, the Bryce Hopkins.

Speaker 2 You did convince Brad Davison to return to school. That's true.

Speaker 1 That's true. I did that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is a fun region. I'm very excited.
Like, I know,

Speaker 1 listen, Purdue, maybe they maybe they they have the Miracle Run in them. But Marquette's very good.
USC's actually really like. USC's better than I think people realize.

Speaker 1 Drew Peterson and Blue. Not the Murderers.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Got to just say that. He's a Stoolee.
Not the Murderers is a Stoolee.

Speaker 1 The players.

Speaker 1 Confusing there for a second.

Speaker 1 Jake was creaming his dockers thinking about a world in which

Speaker 1 the Sweet 16 matchup he had.

Speaker 5 So it's in the garden, so obviously it's a hot ticket no matter what. But of course, you're going to tell me Purdue, Duke, Kentucky, Michigan State.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that in the garden. What is for? Purdue versus Duke, Kentucky, Michigan State in the garden.
Because that region's in Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 1 Confidence would be pretty sick at MSG.

Speaker 5 Yeah, definitely. And Titus

Speaker 5 Marquette going back to the garden after cutting down the nets there last night.

Speaker 1 But he was saying you have Zach Eady, National Player of the Year. Or Vermont.
You have Duke, who is Duke. You have Kentucky, who is Kentucky.
And then you have Tom Izzo, Mr. March, in the garden.

Speaker 1 He was just he's not he's not Mr. March anymore.
Who's Mr.

Speaker 2 March? Jerry.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's right.

Speaker 2 Jerry is Tomizzo is Mr.

Speaker 2 Early March, mid-March.

Speaker 1 Who would be Mr. March in college basketball right now? Well, no, it is.
It's Jerry Fragrance.

Speaker 1 He said it's January 2000. He has a shirt, right? This is

Speaker 1 I am March. No, I don't know who's Mr.
March now. That's a good question.
I guess Bill Self. I guess it's just who he is.
Yeah, but he's been high-seated. Like, who makes.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 We'll get to him, but if Arkansas made like a deep run, because I think Mr. March has to be,

Speaker 1 you have to, like, you know, go farther than everyone expects.

Speaker 9 It's like three or four straight second weekends.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, right. And also just, like, be like, oh, I didn't expect them to be.
Yeah, one or two of them have to be unexpected. Yeah.
If Arkansas can be Houston, it's going to be Mr.

Speaker 2 March. I mean, if.

Speaker 1 Or they don't play Houston. I'm sorry.
We should just

Speaker 2 if Duke wins two games, we should just call John Charles. John Charles March.

Speaker 1 Just March.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, this.

Speaker 1 I don't know who I'm taking out of this.

Speaker 2 Ed Cooley might be Mr. March.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we didn't even talk about Kansas State. Kansas State's battle-tested.

Speaker 1 That's what you got to say for your Big 12 team. Yeah, battle tested, yeah.
What about...

Speaker 1 But are they worn down? Is the other question? Are they battle-tested or are they worn down?

Speaker 1 That's a tough one.

Speaker 2 What about Mr. February?

Speaker 1 Rick Barnes. Rick Barnes, Mr.
February. He is in this region.

Speaker 1 I also wrote that down. I've believed in Tennessee one too many times.

Speaker 1 So, Tennessee fans, you'll be delighted to hear that I have completely given up on your team, which means this is probably the year they make the run.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 I think this is Purdue's second round matchup is tough, but in terms of like the caliber of each team, Marquette's not the best two seed. I don't think they are playing really well.

Speaker 1 I have Marquette coming out of this region for what it's worth.

Speaker 1 I don't think Duke is the best five seed per se. I don't, I mean, I'd have to think about it.
I guess they're playing the best right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 It didn't jump out to me, jump off the page to me when I saw like these teams. Tennessee is a four seed.
Kansas State is a three. Marquette is a two.
I think that's a good spot for Purdue.

Speaker 1 But they are Purdue, and there's a one next to their name.

Speaker 1 It's really all it is. It just knows what's coming.

Speaker 1 This is not the hardest region. It's just Purdue.
Duke is the best five-seed, by the way. I take that back.
They are the best five.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are. Anyway.
I'm going to take.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'm going to say fucking because I'm going to go back to what I said at the beginning that you have to have at least one seven plus

Speaker 1 in the Final Four. I'm going to take Memphis in this region.
Well, Yeah. And I'm going to look so stupid when they lose in the first round.

Speaker 2 That's okay. I got my Boilermakers.

Speaker 1 Okay. Purdue or die.
Okay. There we go.

Speaker 1 Who you got? Oh, you got Marquette. I got Marquette, yeah.
Okay. I took Marquette, which is probably dumb, but Marquette has not played great defense for most of the year.

Speaker 1 And I made the mistake of watching them in person against Xavier in the Big East Tournament Championship. And their defense was incredible.

Speaker 1 And so now I'm, instead of looking at the, how many games have they played? 34.

Speaker 1 Instead of looking at the first 33 games, how good they were defensively, I'm looking at the last one and saying they figured it out. Right.
Now they know how to guard. Right.

Speaker 1 Just based off of one game.

Speaker 2 Yes. Rutgers is a one seed.
Rutgers. Powerful.
Dangerous. A dangerous one seed.
There we go.

Speaker 1 When you started by saying, I failed a cultural test here at Barcelona, I thought you were going to say that I feel bad for TJ that Rutgers didn't make the decision. Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 it's also a fail, yeah, because it feels like everyone else is the same. No, I was like, TJ, get in here.
I want to drink your tears.

Speaker 1 The biggest rule at Barcell is when anyone suffers terrible, terrible losses on their fandom,

Speaker 1 you have to just rub it in as hard as possible.

Speaker 2 Except for Max. You treat him really nice.

Speaker 1 I think you guys treated me pretty well.

Speaker 1 Shouldn't have got that haircut.

Speaker 5 Big cat, we have a yacht battle in the first round of the NIT. Ruckers Hofstra.

Speaker 1 Stephen Shea. Oh, yeah.
Who's Hoffmefs?

Speaker 1 Stephen Che. Oh.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 No one tells Stephen Che that Hofstra's in the NIT. He will not know.

Speaker 1 We could

Speaker 1 discourage. He doesn't know what to do.

Speaker 2 He doesn't know college basketball is a sport.

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Speaker 1 the Midwest region.

Speaker 1 The Midwest region, Houston's the one seed.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to make a quick prediction on Houston because I know Sasser got hurt. He's going to be back.

Speaker 1 I was warming up today, wasn't he? Groin, I don't know. I haven't.
I'd have to take a look at his groin myself. I'd have to really get in there.
Let's get in there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we can arrange that.

Speaker 1 But, yeah, groin injuries can suck. So I don't know.
I mean, I assume he'll be back for the Sweet 16 if they make it.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 my main point, even if he's not back, Houston,

Speaker 1 what does it say? Probable. Probable.
He's probable for the Sweet 16. And they do need him to go to

Speaker 1 Final Four. But this first two games for Houston, Houston is a team.
They just got embarrassed by Memphis. Houston, when they get embarrassed, they take it out so hard.
Yeah. On like the game against,

Speaker 1 who did they play in the

Speaker 1 fuck, the quarterfinals the other day that they kind of struggled with? Was it ECU? ECU. They struggled a little bit with ECU.
I mean, not like they were a 23-point favorite. I think they won by 10.

Speaker 1 They then came out the next day and just embarrassed Cincinnati. I think Houston is going to steamroll Northern Kentucky duh.
But then Iowa or Auburn are both going to get steamrolled. Either one.

Speaker 1 Houston, just a reminder, Houston is the team that Kellen Sampson, for

Speaker 1 long

Speaker 1 periods of time in their practice, puts a bubble on the rim so they just rebound. Yeah.
You literally, he puts a lid on the rim and they just rebound. That's all they do.

Speaker 1 To your point, I think this is a great draw for Houston in the sense of like if they are the professional

Speaker 1 team that I think that they are, which is to say they have like upperclassmen, they have a culture of like toughness and we're just going to come out and beat your ass.

Speaker 1 If they are that, Iowa or Auburn in the second round are both

Speaker 1 great for them to just like chew them up and spit them out and keep it moving.

Speaker 1 I think Houston, I feel like Houston was the best team for most of the season. Bama beating Houston at Houston,

Speaker 1 I don't know, it gives me pause a little bit. It's basically the Sasha's groin.
Like if I knew Sasha was fully healthy, I might have picked Houston to win it all.

Speaker 1 But I got to take a look at that groin. I need to get in there.
You got to get in there.

Speaker 1 By the way, this Iowa-Auburn game, I don't want to get anyone too excited, but we have an Elvis bet.

Speaker 1 We have an Elvis bet.

Speaker 1 Iowa Elvis and Auburn Elvis are making a bet. What does that mean?

Speaker 1 Both teams' fan bases have a guy who dresses up like Elvis. I'm dressed in Elvis.
So, Viva March Madness, they released an official statement. Iowa Elvis versus Auburn Elvis.

Speaker 1 If Iowa wins, Auburn Elvis will make a donation to the U of I Children's Hospital, matching the Hawkeyes' point total from the game.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 Like $60?

Speaker 1 Well, if Iowa wins, oh, yeah, if Iowa wins, they'll probably score like $80. But if Auburn prevails, Hawkeye Elvis will do the same for the Children's Hospital of Alabama.
Who knows? How much money?

Speaker 1 Whatever they score in the game.

Speaker 2 That's such a weak bet.

Speaker 1 That's such a weak bet. I don't want to unit shame here, but

Speaker 1 I just love that it's not.

Speaker 2 You can. If it's like a $70.

Speaker 1 You're going to donate $70.

Speaker 1 I love that they had this bet released within an hour of the bracket being out because it's like, I would imagine the Elvis fanbases, like the Elvis community, they're all in touch with each other.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh shit, my friend from

Speaker 1 Elvis City. There is a group chat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
They had a group chat that if the two of us play, let's have a bet. Utah State Elvis is like, shit.

Speaker 1 I don't have a fucking Elvis to go up against. But yeah, watch out.

Speaker 1 Iowa Elvis versus Auburn Elvis. It's going to be crazy.

Speaker 2 I love that. If they were any sort of Elvis whatsoever, they would just bet that the loser had to die on the toilet after the game.

Speaker 1 Or just, yeah.

Speaker 2 Just sit on the toilet until you die.

Speaker 1 Get addicted to opioids yeah yeah uh but it's yeah maybe not that one yeah i was gonna say i saw the picture of them i wouldn't put it past him uh yeah this game though is a bad matchup for iowa simply because they've been horrendous on the road and this game's being played in alabama oh it is a drawing birmingham yeah so it's gonna be all auburn fans yeah like that's that's that and also it is an away game for us it's horrendous for iowa because frame mccaffrey is still their coach yeah and um doesn't get enough credit for never being to a suite 16.

Speaker 1 yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 Doesn't. He does not get enough credit for that.
I'm giving him credit right now for never being to a Sweet 16.

Speaker 2 What about Texas AM? We were saying earlier how it sucks that they got jobbed in their seating,

Speaker 2 but we instantly moved on past that once we saw the potential second-round matchup against Texas.

Speaker 1 Too fun. I mean, Penn State will be a fun game.

Speaker 1 That's why it sucks that they got jobbed in their seating because to have to play Penn State team that's been playing really well is sort of unfair to Texas AM. But yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 that whole bottom region, even if you want to take a big swing on a 15, now I think Texas, I have Texas going to the national championship and losing to Bama.

Speaker 1 So I'm not condoning picking Colgate to beat Texas, but Colgate.

Speaker 1 I'm saying that whole bottom four in terms of fun. Like, Colgate plays a fun, aesthetically pleasing style of basketball.
But that's all I'm saying. They're not going to beat Texas.

Speaker 1 That's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Colgate, last year, I did the Colgate thing because they played Wisconsin. Dude, it's literally in my manifesto.

Speaker 1 Do not believe in Colgate.

Speaker 1 Because everyone's like,

Speaker 1 look at their shooting, and they have all these guys don't make mistakes.

Speaker 1 They got to a point in the game against Wisconsin, which is hard to do, where all of our athletes, and I use that with air quotes, looked 10 times better, and they looked like they're all wearing cement shoes.

Speaker 1 Texas is a good one. I'm not saying pick Colgate to win.
I'm saying in terms of those two games. Fun teams.
Fun teams.

Speaker 1 The two games, Texas A and Penn State, and then Texas-Colgate will be two fun games to watch. Texas will probably be in a comfortable lead the whole game, but Colgate will be fun.

Speaker 1 They're a team you'll want to root. Sounds like we have to make a legacy bet.
Texas is going to murder them.

Speaker 1 I think Texas will. I think Texas will win.
But PFT's right. Texas, Texas AM would be awesome.
It would be awesome. That's great.

Speaker 1 That's a

Speaker 1 Big 12. No, an SEC revenge game.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But it's not SEC yet.

Speaker 1 But it's not. Is it? Does Texas A ⁇ M get revenge on Texas? Because now Texas has joined Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 2 I think it's a Civil War. Yeah.
It's a Civil War. It's a house divided.

Speaker 1 They should actually wait and play this game on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Yes.
I would love to. Pause the whole tournament.

Speaker 1 That would be. It's going to be a fun game.
The two guard-oriented teams that play great defense. We also

Speaker 1 have some other revenge games in this bracket, depending on how Luke ⁇ because this is really all that the media does in March Madison. Look at this revenge game.

Speaker 1 I don't know if this is a revenge game or just a homecoming game, but Sean Miller, if he beats Mississippi State

Speaker 1 and Xavier wins, Sean Miller did play at Pitt. So

Speaker 1 maybe is that a revenge game?

Speaker 1 He plays Alma Mater. He's from Pennsylvania.
He played at Pitt. He plays Alma Mater.
I don't know if that does that count as a. What is that? It's just a story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's just a factoid game, I think.

Speaker 2 You know what that is? That's an interesting nugget.

Speaker 1 That's a nugget. That's a nugget.
That's a nugget game.

Speaker 2 Well, you just kind of threw out Iowa State there.

Speaker 1 No, I know. I'm saying, yeah, Pitt has to win two games.

Speaker 2 They got to win two games. They got to put that to beat Mississippi State.

Speaker 1 Listen, we had Joey Hauser already playing his second-round game revenge games. Little nugget.

Speaker 2 I have have a nugget on Iowa State

Speaker 2 that their strength of schedule, their opponent's offense, has been number one in the country.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Big 12. Over the course of the

Speaker 2 battle-tested team.

Speaker 1 Battle-tested team. Battle-tested.
Battle-tested.

Speaker 1 Do you think TJ Otzelberger, I asked this on the live stream, but we moved past him pretty quickly. Is he jacked or does he just wear tight clothing? I think he's mini-jacked.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Because he's not a tall guy. Maybe he is tall.
I don't know if he doesn't look that tall. He doesn't look that tall.
He doesn't look that tall.

Speaker 1 I also am respecting Iowa State because this is a lot of, you know, the number one rule in sports and gambling, everything is like past

Speaker 1 doesn't, what is the, what's the actual saying? I need a line.

Speaker 2 Past performance is not indicative of future results.

Speaker 1 Right. There it is.
Iowa State beat Wisconsin this year, last year in the tournament, so I respect Iowa State from that. Means nothing.
Yeah. But this is just how my brain works.

Speaker 2 I think TJ Otzelberger, his hair is too nice to be jacked. Okay.
You know what I'm saying? Unless he's got that like Oregon strength coach vibe to him. You remember the one with the mustache?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's at Miami.

Speaker 1 Are you saying that the only way to really be a jacked man is to have thin,

Speaker 1 awful terrible hair. Yeah, because you have to overconfidently be a shaved head, goatee

Speaker 2 because you're going bald. And then you wear polo shirts that are super, super tight.

Speaker 1 Some really bad tragedy in your childhood. Yeah.
To be like, I'm going to get so jacked no one can pick on me anymore. Your young adult life, baby.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, right. Something happened where you're like, I'm spending my whole life in the gym.
And then you move thousands of miles away from home to live by the beach or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, right, Exactly. Well, you didn't get changed.

Speaker 1 You got emaciated. I was talking about.
You're the first person who did the fucking insulin medicine without.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did the opposite of it.

Speaker 1 I thought we were going a different path.

Speaker 1 Never mind.

Speaker 2 What about your beloved Hoosiers?

Speaker 1 Revenge game, Indiana Houston and the Sweet 16, Kelvin Sampson versus the program that he sank on the way out.

Speaker 1 It would be a juicy storyline to be sure.

Speaker 1 See,

Speaker 1 this is why I hate filling out brackets because before the bracket came out I wrote down advanced Kenn State no matter who they play and then they played Indiana and I was like what do I do

Speaker 1 and I had to stick with it because so I have Kenn State beat in Indiana but I hate that I definitely hate that and and I just want to crawl into a hole because

Speaker 1 Ken State's really good and Sincere Carrie is a really fun March name to say

Speaker 1 yeah like that is it when I when you think in storyline with think of an announcer saying sincere carry from three

Speaker 1 with a name like that he's destined to play in the NBA am I right Yeah,

Speaker 1 when we're on fucking season 543rd of the dozen, there will be a sincere carry question. Who led the Mac in points in like 2023?

Speaker 1 I don't even know if he did. They also, Kent State is a muck it up team, is how I've described them.
They played a game against Houston, if I remember right, the score was like 45 to 43 or something.

Speaker 1 40. Yeah, it was just disgusting basketball.

Speaker 1 And I think that Indiana played a brand.

Speaker 1 So Indiana, before Mike Woodson got there with Trace Jackson Davis and some of the other guys that are still there, they played a brand of basketball that was muck.

Speaker 1 And I think there's a world where Kent State like invites them back into the muck.

Speaker 1 And they

Speaker 1 just revert back to their old ways. And suddenly they're playing Archie Miller basketball.
Oh, no. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's just a gross basketball game that's just like, yeah, that Indiana fans are losing their minds. Like, how did we get here?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's one timeline I see. I got a deep, deep revenge game on this one.

Speaker 1 Chris Payton, who plays for Kent State, who might be guarding TJD for a little bit in this game, or most of it.

Speaker 1 He played at Pitt. He's from Bloomington.
Oh.

Speaker 2 Interesting. Revenge game against the entire town.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 2 What about Texas coach, Terry? Yeah, Rodney Terry. Rodney Terry.
I've read a lot of stuff about him recently because they're going to have to determine at some point if he's going to come back or...

Speaker 1 He's from Bloomington, Illinois, so it's not actually. Oh, it's not different from Bloomington.

Speaker 2 With Terry, how many games does he have to win for him to be the presumptive guy coming into next year?

Speaker 1 I think there's an argument to be made. He should be the guy already.

Speaker 1 I don't think Texas is going to see it that way. I think he's going to have to go to the Final Four for them to actually hire him.

Speaker 1 And I think he could. But the

Speaker 1 Texas is in a position. Chris Beard was such the perfect hire for them.
Like, when they hired him, they were like, we got our guy for the next 30 years. He's going to be here for 30 years.

Speaker 1 And then he was not. And so I think they're in a position where they want to take a big

Speaker 1 swing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Big swing. Hope they don't choke.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Texas.
Walks right into that.

Speaker 2 If they choke, they'll take a big swing.

Speaker 1 They want to take a big swing on their next coaching hire. If you're looking for the inverse of the Alabama storyline, Texas would be it where they got rid of the bad guy.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And then they go on a miracle run. Yes.
And they're a program that

Speaker 1 I was talking to Steve on my Stanford Steve on my show about how I was trying to make an argument that Ohio State basketball is actually fun to cheer for if you can just remove the football part of it.

Speaker 1 But nobody can. I think Texas basketball is kind of the same thing.
There's no real reason to hate Texas basketball. They never win anything.
They always choke.

Speaker 1 You had Kevin Durant and they didn't do anything. They never do anything.

Speaker 1 So there is some small part that's like, yeah, I get you hate the fan base because they're so loud and like they think that they're the best and they never win anything.

Speaker 1 But if you just cut out all of that and just focus on like the group inside the Texas basketball locker room,

Speaker 1 they've never elevated themselves to hateable in my eyes because they never actually.

Speaker 1 Do you know what it is? It's very similar to when LeBron was in Cleveland separating the Cavs and LeBron from Browns fans.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I root for the Browns fans, not thinking in my head, oh, yeah, these are also LeBron fans. These are the same people

Speaker 1 football and basketball. You've got to separate them.
Also, I mean, like, TJ Ford, who didn't love him? Yes.

Speaker 1 But that's what happens is as Texas basketball starts winning, you realize the same people that are happy about this are those assholes that I deal with in the fall, you know, XYZ.

Speaker 1 And yeah, so then you're like, never mind. I hate these guys.
Yeah, it's similar to the John Shire, like Duke fan.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm rooting for John Shire, and then I'm like, wait, Duke fans are going to be a bit more like that. But the Duke fans are going to be happy.
Shit. Yeah, exactly.
What did I do to myself?

Speaker 2 I do need to see McConaughey back on the bench. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would be awesome. That's affecting asses.
Come on.

Speaker 2 Like, many people, many national pundits are expecting Texas to make the Final Four this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have them in the New York Times. Yeah.

Speaker 2 In the championship. Now's the time when you need to come out of hiding, McConaughey.

Speaker 1 I think so. Shout out in this region, Jim Lernig in Miami.
I just love him. He's awesome.

Speaker 1 I don't love that he goes by Coach L. I think that's a bad thing.
Oh, yeah, it's a bad thing.

Speaker 1 You have the Inye.

Speaker 2 You should ride with that. You should be Coach Inye.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
Yeah. Such a cooler letter.
Tilde? Tilde? Is it called a tilde? Inye. What's the tilde?

Speaker 2 I think it's a tilde.

Speaker 1 Inye is the squiggly name of the tilde in English. It's an Inye in Spanish.

Speaker 1 We also have a wild storyline for Drake.

Speaker 5 Their head coach is Darren DeVries. His son, Tucker DeVries, is the conference player of the year.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That is wild. So, how did you recruit him?

Speaker 2 I don't know. Did he give him any free meals in high school, middle school?

Speaker 1 Maybe. That's a problem.
Violation. Listen to it.
I'm going to write it in. And I will.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 He gave him free clothes and a bedroom and a place to stay.

Speaker 2 Wouldn't be the first time Drake groomed somebody. Ooh.

Speaker 1 That's too easy. We forgot to mention the Bruce Pearl storyline that he was at Iowa when he was a rat.
When he ratted on Illinois,

Speaker 1 he wore the wire. Yeah, he wore the wire.
He was in Iowa, yeah. He was coaching at Iowa, yeah.

Speaker 2 You forgot about that.

Speaker 1 So the Iowa Elvis and Auburn Elvis, do without what you may.

Speaker 1 Who do you got coming out? I have Texas, as I said, because Texas is depth. Texas plays defense.
Texas is battle test in the Big 12. Texas has a bevy of.

Speaker 1 That's not their mascot, is it? Bevo. No, Bivo.

Speaker 1 I just threw myself up. A bevy of guards.

Speaker 1 They check a lot of the boxes, and they're playing really well right now.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I have Houston and Texas.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to go chalk in that regard in the Elite Eight. And then it's kind of a coin flip.
And I went with Texas because I don't know what Marcus Sasser's groin looks like. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 1 I got to see it. I still haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 Mark, you should tweet out. I'm going to see your groin.

Speaker 1 We're going to pick. I need to see what the bruising looks like right now.

Speaker 1 I'm going to join you with Texas. Yeah.
Until you see that groin. Until I see the groin.
If Marcus Sasser is 100% healthy, I would like Houston.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm also kind of weirdly rooting for Indiana to make a deep run. And I do love watching TJD play basketball.
He is fun. No, I think Indiana could.
I think Indiana,

Speaker 1 Jalen Hood Shafino will be a lottery pick probably.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I don't think they play good enough defense, and they're certainly not consistent enough. But Indiana on their best night can beat anybody.
I mean, they smoked Purdue and Mackey Arena. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And swept them first time in like 10 years. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I kind of like A ⁇ M to beat Texas.

Speaker 2 Coach Buzz ride with our guy a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I'm going to go chalk out of this region. I'm going to go Houston.

Speaker 1 Houston. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Okay. So

Speaker 1 last region, this is the death, region of death, the West.

Speaker 1 So when we were doing our bracket reveal show, I said this looks like the region of death. I went back and looked.

Speaker 1 In this region, you have five teams that are in the top 11 in Ken Pom, which is pretty crazy. That's crazy.
That's crazy. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 And not only that, but the number one seed is the fourth-ranked team of those five

Speaker 1 in Ken Pom. So UCLA is number two in Ken Pom.
They're the two seed. UConn is number four in Ken Pom.
They are the four seed.

Speaker 1 Gonzag is number eight in Ken Pom. They are the three seed.
And then Kansas is number nine in Ken Pom. They're the one seed.
And St. Mary's is is up there.
St. Mary's is 11.
Yeah. And Arkansas is 20.

Speaker 1 So you have six in the top 20. This is this entire region.

Speaker 1 And then we didn't even mention TCU, which, like, when I was looking at the bracket reveal, I was like, every team, there's six teams in this region that their ceiling is Final Four national championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah, TCU came into this season saying we expect to make the Final Four. Because they last year,

Speaker 1 if you remember, took Arizona, who was the number one overall seed in last year's tournament, the overtime.

Speaker 1 There was a a controversial call that wasn't actually controversial at all, but everyone lost their minds on an over-and-back call. But that was when we got introduced.

Speaker 1 That's when America was introduced to TCU, and then they brought all those guys back.

Speaker 1 No Eddie Lampkin, though. You love Eddie Lampkin.
I love Eddie Lampin. You've always loved Eddie Lampkin.
I love Eddie Lampkin. He was in the office a few months ago.
He was.

Speaker 1 You could probably get him in the office now because he left the team. Yeah, he didn't.
He had nothing going on right now. Why did he leave? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 so a little bit of injury. Then also his mom came out and said that there was maybe some racial things said by Jamie Dixon.
So we don't know. Okay.
Yeah. But he left the team.
Somewhere in between.

Speaker 1 I can tell from the. Well,

Speaker 2 I just asked a question. I don't want to know the answer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't know. Somewhere in between like a mild injury and racial slurs.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
Somebody got there. Got it.
Fill in the blanks. Yeah.
Yeah. Somewhere.
So he, yeah, he's not there. But there is.

Speaker 1 This is an incredible region. Like, I'm very excited about all these games.
I will co-sign that and say,

Speaker 1 look no further than just the Arkansas, Illinois game, having two teams that have just loads and loads of talent and on paper jump out at you at how good they could be theoretically if they could just put it all together.

Speaker 1 Neither team has really done that fully yet, but you can talk yourself into it. And that's the 8-9 game.
So like, honestly, this is, it's a cop-out.

Speaker 1 I understand, and people get angry when I do this, when I do like the anything could happen type shit. But

Speaker 1 Illinois is good enough to make the Final Four. They're not going to.
They're not. They're going to find a way to screw it up.

Speaker 1 But if you've been watching Illinois all year and you only focus on their positive flashes of basketball, you're like, that team is good enough to make a Final Four. Same with Arkansas.

Speaker 1 They're loaded with talent. I think it's going to be a rock fight.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be like very, that might be my under

Speaker 1 of the month.

Speaker 1 You have no idea which one of those teams is going to show up.

Speaker 1 And if they, whoever wins, you don't know who's going to show up against Kansas. It's just, but that's what makes that region crazy.

Speaker 1 It's like, if you're Kansas, you could get the shitty version of Illinois, run them off the floor, and it's a ho-hung second-round game.

Speaker 1 Or you could get, you know, like an Arkansas team that's got multiple lottery picks and a ton of athleticism. And you're like,

Speaker 1 yeah, and I thought we were one seed. How the hell do we get this draw? You know who I want to show up to this game?

Speaker 2 Burt Bielema. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Revenge gap. Burt Billima.

Speaker 1 I would like him to do like a topless red panda at halftime.

Speaker 2 There should be an Arkansas Burt Bielema versus Illinois Burt Bellima bet that we have on this one.

Speaker 1 It is a revenge game for him.

Speaker 2 Loser has to eat 70 pounds of red meat.

Speaker 1 We need it. We need it.

Speaker 1 And we have, speaking of revenge games, if

Speaker 1 Illinois gets to the second round and Bill Self, that is obviously Bill Self, coach of Illinois,

Speaker 1 his guys went, you know, that was the famous team that went to the national championship game. So I don't know if that's even revenge because that felt.

Speaker 1 We just say revenge games. If someone has any ties to another team.

Speaker 2 Who's mad at who?

Speaker 1 I think Illinois probably would be a little mad, but then also wouldn't take Kansas job over Illinois.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they'd be like, thank you for taking us to a national championship.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right. Well, Bruce Weber did, but yeah, he's his guys.
His guys. His guys that he recruited.

Speaker 1 Cliff Alexander revenge game, by the way. There we go.
Remember that Cliff Alexander?

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Oh, my God.
We also have maybe if CBS, TBS, whoever this game's on, knows what they're doing as broadcasters.

Speaker 1 I own a UConn. We need it to just don't even show the game.
Just show Dan Hurley and Rick Patino just in their coaches' boxes, like just going through the board. They should have an alternate feed.

Speaker 1 Yes. Coaches only.

Speaker 2 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 5 I did a personal alternate feed at the Big East tournament for Hurley versus Shaka the other night. I just watched them.

Speaker 1 Shaka was on the court. Shaka was on the court.
And did you see he blew me off post-games?

Speaker 2 No, what did he do?

Speaker 5 I said, go game coach. He just walks right past me.

Speaker 1 Shaka was

Speaker 1 chip on my shoulder, Market versus Vermont. Yep.
Shaka literally was on the court. It was driving me insane.
But either way,

Speaker 1 I was joking.

Speaker 2 If Rick's in the box, he'll only be in there for a few seconds.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. 15.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If there was a stream of Rick Petino and Dan Hurley and they were mic'd up and

Speaker 1 they were, we got like a genuine mic'd up experience. And like, not that they knew they were mic'd up, but you just get to hear whatever they would have said otherwise.

Speaker 1 And you can either watch that stream or watch the actual game. I would watch that stream.
Yes. I would watch that stream and check the score later.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 And just judge by their facial expressions.

Speaker 1 I was saying that the ref, if they know what they're doing, doing, they should just give a T to both of them before they even tip it off. Pre-emptively.

Speaker 1 And being like, I know what you guys are going to say. Yeah, I mean, here's your technical.

Speaker 2 If Rick Petino wins this game, I think that we're definitely going to get Rick at a big school next week.

Speaker 1 Well, that's the best part about this is this could be something we get twice a year because Rick Petino going to St. John's, Rick Petino going to Georgetown.

Speaker 1 I even heard Ed Cooley going to Georgetown, Rick Petino going to Providence. There's all types of Rick Petino fanfit.

Speaker 2 I like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's going home.

Speaker 2 I actually think Leroy broke the Ed Cooley at Georgetown. He might have been a little bit over his skis on that one.
Might have been some bad rumors. Ed Cooley loves Providence.

Speaker 2 He does love Providence, but he also likes money.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Is the thing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone likes money.

Speaker 2 I like that fan fiction, though. Like, yeah.
Ed Cooley to Georgetown, Rick Petino, go to Providence. He's going home.
Run it back. Where he started, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, that's.

Speaker 2 That's interesting. I would love to see Rick advance to the second round here.
Rick Petino against St. Mary's second round.

Speaker 1 Oh, I think VCU.

Speaker 1 What if he's going to

Speaker 1 be? I think VCU is going to be a tough, tough game for St.

Speaker 5 Mary.

Speaker 5 I mentioned this on the show, or Titus's show. VCU revenge game against COVID.
They forfeited the last time they were in the tournament.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I can't trust VCU.
Oregon won. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Forfeit.

Speaker 1 I can't trust VCU until I see a mask up. I need a picture of the guys

Speaker 1 taking COVID seriously this time around. Yeah.
Because they last time, too many positive tests this season.

Speaker 2 Which coach was it in 2021 that he had a massive herpes outbreak?

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought you were going to say Josh Pastner. Josh Pastner with the mask.
He just fired.

Speaker 2 There was one coach that had a massive herpes outbreak, and they all had to wear masks. But for whatever reason, this one coach kept pulling his down.

Speaker 2 It's like, dude, you have the best built-in excuse.

Speaker 2 Well, it's a once-in-a-generation pandemic. No one has to know.

Speaker 1 I don't remember. I don't remember that either.
Remember.

Speaker 1 I know what you're talking about. Yeah.
I don't.

Speaker 1 I do know what you're talking about, but I don't remember. Who's the coach with herpes? Oh, it was Fred Hoiberg.
Oh,

Speaker 1 well, no, no, no, no. Everyone thought he had COVID, right? Fred, Fred was the one who was very, very sick.
Oh, okay. That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 He had like the flu. Remember, he was like sweating on the sideline.
Everyone's watching that, like, throw this man in prison. Yeah.
Like, how dare him? And then he didn't even have COVID.

Speaker 1 It's just the flu.

Speaker 1 That's what you were going to say.

Speaker 1 Yeah, though, this region, and Gonzaga, we didn't even talk about Gonzaga. That's a canon game's.
Gonzaga as a three-seed with zero pressure whatsoever is very, very dangerous. And

Speaker 1 for whatever reason, America hates Gonzaga, and everybody loves to roll their eyes at the idea of Gonzaga. The Gonzaga's

Speaker 1 gone to seven straight Sweet 16s.

Speaker 1 He's Mr. March.
He's Mr. March.
Mark Few might be Mr. March.
He's never into a Final Four.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Gonzaga is a three seed where there's no target on their back whatsoever, and nobody's expecting. I mean, I've kind of at times probably

Speaker 1 I've probably said this this multiple times that I hate this Gonzaga team. I don't hate them anymore.
They're starting to play a little bit better lately. Their offense is really humming.

Speaker 1 But yeah, all season long, it's been clear that this is not one of Mark Vugh's best teams. And that kind of makes them dangerous, that they can just let it rip and have Drew Timmy just, you know,

Speaker 1 be the all-American that he is.

Speaker 2 I feel like we are destined to see Drew Timmy, at least in a Sweet 16 game this year.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 Also, just a reminder, don't root for Northwestern because a bunch of journalists are going to come out of nowhere and be so fucking very annoying.

Speaker 5 I called my shot on a graphic that TVS is going to do.

Speaker 5 Northwestern kid crying then and now.

Speaker 1 They're going to show him live in the sands, the meme, the AD son.

Speaker 5 Yeah. They're going to show him six years later.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's like 25 years old now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I hope he's crying again.

Speaker 2 He probably will be. He's Northwestern.
Yeah, yeah. Although, it would be nice to see Greene advance.
No, but Ravel?

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's the problem.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can't have Ravel, like...

Speaker 2 He can't have anything nice.

Speaker 1 He took the polo off the off of Collins' body when they won at Rutgers. He literally was like on his Instagram feed.
He was like, got the game-worn polo from Coach Collins. Fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 We can't have it. We can't have it.
We'll get Wilbon on PTI wearing a little purple quarter zip. Yeah, a quarter zip with like...

Speaker 1 You can't have it. It's like a purple.

Speaker 2 Yeah, something like a small piece of flare.

Speaker 2 There'll be a polo shirt that he has underneath his quarter zip.

Speaker 1 It'll be a Northwestern.

Speaker 2 You can't even see the logo on on it. You can't have it.

Speaker 1 Tony, my wild guy.

Speaker 1 Northwestern just, oh, they play an ugly style of basketball. Yeah.
So

Speaker 2 counterpoint boo-booy, fun to say.

Speaker 1 Boo-booey is fun to say. That's fun to say.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can't have that.

Speaker 1 And then UCLA, if Jalen Clark was healthy, he's not. Yeah, that's on Max.
Yeah, thank you. Max.
Max tore his Achilles.

Speaker 2 Is it officially torn?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, it's torn.
It was torn the second we saw the video. It's not true.

Speaker 2 Yes, it was.

Speaker 1 We didn't see the MRI.

Speaker 1 No, actually, that's technically technically true max because he tore his achilles and i said the second we saw the video he tore his achilles but we didn't know but we did but it was because his achilles was torn it was torn we just found out you're wrong yeah his achilles was torn his aches you're jumping to conclusions no i it's called it's called being right if you were right about it yeah and his achilles was torn the minute it was torn i said how torn no it just

Speaker 1 got torn at the hospital

Speaker 1 imagine be torn in the mri yeah it was a torn.

Speaker 1 Look at this.

Speaker 2 You should do screenshots, Max. Like, look at this.
It's clearly intact when he was being wheelchaired off the court.

Speaker 1 I'll do some research. Yeah, please.

Speaker 1 I'll conduct my own research.

Speaker 1 If he was healthy, I think I said on the show with Jake, if he was healthy, I would have wrote UCLA's national champion and filled my bracket out backwards. It was a good pick.
UCLA was a good pick.

Speaker 1 Until you toured Jalen Carter's killing. So I don't know how good they are now.
I mean, they played Arizona while they had a shot to beat him in the tournament.

Speaker 2 They have Mr. March.
Mick Cronin.

Speaker 1 Did you see

Speaker 1 his dad was fighting people? Oh, yeah. I love that.
Good. See, this is his name again? Hep.
Hep C. Yeah, Hep C.

Speaker 2 Hepsey's back, guys. Watch out.
Wrap it up. But Mick Cronin is, I feel like this is when he really shines, is when everybody completely doubts him.
And he's going to be coaching pissed off.

Speaker 1 But they've got guys that have been there forever. Tiger Campbell and Hawke is.

Speaker 1 He's been there forever. This is why

Speaker 1 this is the group at that. I could see Kansas winning the national championship.
I could see UCLA winning the national championship. I could see Gonzaga's tough to go all the way, but I could.

Speaker 1 I can't see them in the final four.

Speaker 1 Yukon is up there.

Speaker 1 Arkansas and Illinois, like I said, in some weird, twisted timeline, like I could see them. TCU, same thing.

Speaker 1 The top eight seeds, of the top eight seeds of the teams that I think there's no way they're winning a national championship is Northwestern and St. Mary's.

Speaker 1 Jake, I need you to put a reminder in here for me because this is something I make a mistake every single year. If Arkansas or Illinois wins that game by 10 or more,

Speaker 1 take Kansas by a billion. Because that is exactly what will happen.
Like, Illinois would beat Arkansas. He'd be like, holy shit,

Speaker 1 Illinois kicked the shit out of Arkansas.

Speaker 1 Kansas better watch out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kansas better watch out. And then Kansas is like, no, no, no, no.
That's not how this works. Does the game, if Illinois wins, the game will be in Des Moines, Iowa.

Speaker 1 Now, Kansas is close to there as well, obviously, but Illinois. Very close.
Very close to Des Moines.

Speaker 1 Does that matter?

Speaker 1 How much does that matter when you overcome?

Speaker 2 Why does Kansas travels better?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like Kentucky, Kansas, like those teams, they are going to have fans there no matter what. You know what I mean? But instead of Kansas overwhelmingly having the advantage,

Speaker 1 like say if it was Florida Atlantic that they were playing as their nine seed,

Speaker 1 it's going to be Illinois. That's true.
I don't know. Either way,

Speaker 1 if either of those teams wins decisively in that 8-9 matchup, it's hammer time on Kansas. Because I trick myself.

Speaker 1 It's the same as in football. Whoever wins the wild card, you're like, man, they just want a playoff game.
This other team hasn't won a playoff game yet.

Speaker 1 Like, the Giants want a playoff game. They're going to be able to go into Philadelphia.
No, that's not how it works.

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Speaker 1 Who do you have coming out of this region? Group of death.

Speaker 1 I have Kansas, it looks like.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I have Kansas because what was the stat I pulled, Jake? When Bill Self has a one seed, he's gone to seven out of nine elite eights. So I think Kansas is a shoe-in to the elite eight.

Speaker 1 And then at that point, they're going to either play a Gonzaga team that's very flawed or a UCLA team that just lost their best defender. And I thought they're probably going to win that game.

Speaker 1 So I have Kansas going back to the final four.

Speaker 1 That's my pick. Okay.
Which people hate because anytime you pick the one seed, it makes people very angry.

Speaker 2 I hate that. I'm angry.

Speaker 1 I hate

Speaker 1 TV. So wait, what's your final four right now? I have, if you want storylines, here's your storyline.
I have in Jim Bayheim's last season in college basketball, I have a 2003

Speaker 1 replay with Texas, Kansas, and Marquette all making the final four.

Speaker 1 But the fourth team, because Syracuse isn't in it this year, I have Alabama in Syracuse's place.

Speaker 1 And then Alabama goes on to win the national.

Speaker 2 They're the new Syracuse.

Speaker 1 They're the new Syracuse.

Speaker 1 With a freshman

Speaker 1 leading the way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 In a year that ends in three, has a freshman ever carried a team to a national championship and won their coach his first and only title with Texas, Kansas, and Marquette also in the Final Four?

Speaker 1 Has that ever happened? Somebody Google that.

Speaker 2 I don't.

Speaker 2 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Yes, I'm looking right now.

Speaker 1 What does it say? Yes, that happened.

Speaker 1 It's actually the last year that ended in three, the last time a year ended in three,

Speaker 1 Syracuse. Yeah, this was all.
That's right. Because Louis Gill didn't count.
It didn't happen. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that year did not count. Right.
It never happened. Yep.
So 20 years later. No, yeah.
So the last time the year ended in three that we had.

Speaker 1 For the record, when I was filling out my bracket, that was not my train of thought. This is just retroactively making.

Speaker 2 It sounds like you just kind of improv your bracket. You just go through it.
Pretty much writing a structure, but you just lead wherever your heart takes you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my big red flag is that I have a lot of conference tournament winners oh that's fancy four which is very stupid

Speaker 1 same thing that we just said yeah i know but i i painted myself in a corner i didn't realize it till i was on my elite eight and i was like fuck it i did it again you got to be tired too if you win your conference tournament at this point right you would yeah but then ucon remember ucon get hot kansas won theirs last year yeah

Speaker 1 yeah i would i would be tired yeah yeah i would be tired

Speaker 1 of basketball i'm tired and i just watched the game be like fuck this i have to go play basketball again yeah i'm gonna take uconn in this region That's a fun pick. UConn's a fun pick.

Speaker 2 I bet they're going to lose first round.

Speaker 1 UConn, so my foul four is what? UConn, Texas.

Speaker 1 What was my... I go to Arizona.
Did you go to the next one? No, it was Memphis. I went Memphis and Arizona.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go UCLA. Fuck it.
Because fuck it. Because that's why.
Keep riding. Because fuck it.

Speaker 1 It's Mick. It's Mick.

Speaker 2 Hep C in the crowd.

Speaker 1 Hepsi.

Speaker 2 Team of Destiny. Let's get the point.

Speaker 2 I actually do think there's something to Mick where

Speaker 2 the worse his teams get, the better his coaching gets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree. I'm very...

Speaker 1 God damn it. There's nothing better than a tournament.
It's the best. Any other last thoughts? You're going to be on streams with us? Yeah, I'll be streaming.
This will be...

Speaker 1 That'll be fun being in a room full of...

Speaker 1 Can we get one lock a day, one Mark Titus lock a day?

Speaker 1 People are very angry that I'm not providing the locks of the day.

Speaker 1 I told you this, that I wanted my locks of the day to just be like Houston Moneylight. like find the biggest spread.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll do that. I'll do Moneyline.
I'll do one over 16 Moneyline as much. Just roll it over.
That'd be so awesome if you lost.

Speaker 2 5-12. Give us a 5-12 upset.

Speaker 1 5-12. So it would have been Oral Roberts over Duke, but

Speaker 1 I think Duke's the best five and Oral Roberts is the best 12. So I will say Charleston over San Diego State.
I think San Diego State

Speaker 1 I think San Diego State's the better team, but Charleston, like, has like all year, they're not that great, but they just keep finding ways to win, and the game will be close, and they'll eke out a W.

Speaker 1 And that feels like a good one. But I honestly like all the 12-5s, as everybody does every year.

Speaker 1 But this is the little nugget, I guess, is I was talking to Jake about is that this year it felt like there were a ton of, in the conference, the small school conference tournaments, the one seeds and the two seeds won a lot of them to where your 12-16 seeds are very, very strong.

Speaker 1 There's not a lot of teams that got hot just to win three games in their conference tournament, and now they're like like a 14 seed that might be a little fraudulent.

Speaker 1 These are teams that were dominating their conferences all year, like across the board.

Speaker 1 So yeah, there probably will be a lot of upsets because it's a lot of 25 plus win teams that are double-digit seeds. Would you say? This doesn't happen all the time.

Speaker 2 What 15 seed is the most likely to give a two-seed a scare?

Speaker 1 I would say...

Speaker 2 There's always a scare out there.

Speaker 1 Princeton, Colgate, or Asheville would probably be the three I would look at, but not.

Speaker 2 I don't know if they're going to narrow it down a little bit to maybe two out of four. Just start with the four.

Speaker 1 I don't like four. I don't like the so wait.

Speaker 2 What's the one that is not going to give a scare?

Speaker 1 Vermont. Vermont.
That's the point. Oh, Vermont? Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sorry to. They're going to win.
I know. Jake creamed.
That's not a scare. I wish he creamed his dockers.

Speaker 1 He creamed his dockers when they announced that in Columbus, and he asked for permission to go. It's like, yes.

Speaker 1 Jake's very persuasive, so he's slowly talking me into the idea. But Vermont and Colgate were two teams I wrote down.
Don't trust them.

Speaker 1 How often can we, just one time I want Vermont to pop up on a bracket and nobody mentioned TJ Sorentine's name. No, but unfortunately, we have no other moments to go off of.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And at what point do we all say, wait a second, we talk about this every year and nothing happens? Yeah.

Speaker 5 You know, yeah, but it is why it's going to happen now when no one suspects it.

Speaker 5 You're taking them because no one expects them to go deep.

Speaker 1 If Vermont does beat Marquette, Jake deserves to just like host pardon my take one year or something.

Speaker 2 He should host your podcast for a day.

Speaker 1 No, I probably would let you do that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He doesn't even want that. You don't have to be a good one.
Jay don't want Jacob

Speaker 1 Titus Jacob. If Vermont beats Marquette, you get to do the Ray Allen tweet.

Speaker 1 Perfect. That's perfect.
Let's go, Golden Eagles. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's perfect.

Speaker 2 Wait, you would rather have Marquette win

Speaker 1 than

Speaker 2 to have an all-time upset and have to tweet the Ray Allen tweet.

Speaker 1 I'm so excited. Yeah, I'm so soft.

Speaker 2 We should actually pick one

Speaker 2 where if you call the upset correctly, you get to do the Ray Allen tweet. Okay.

Speaker 1 Like how Max has to be. It has to be a 13 or higher.

Speaker 2 13 13 or higher. All right.

Speaker 1 Titus, you in? Yeah. What are you doing? You could do the Ray Allen tweet?

Speaker 2 Oh, well, I'm clearly going to go Iona.

Speaker 1 Yeah. If Iona wins, if Iona wins,

Speaker 2 I'm going to do the Ray Allen tweet.

Speaker 1 I don't think I want to do the Ray Allen tweet. Okay, that's fine.
You don't have to. I'll be in the club.

Speaker 1 I needed some help. Unfortunately.

Speaker 2 You still have some integrity.

Speaker 1 Well, you could just pick a 16 seed.

Speaker 1 That's true. I'll pick

Speaker 5 it might happen, Titus.

Speaker 1 I'll pick Fairleigh Dickinson because that has.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. See your line.
See your line.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's that Dickinson did make at least one Dickinson made the NCAA tournament. Yeah, that's a good thing.
Scary Don't

Speaker 5 do because Fairleigh Dickinson has to win two games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have to win two. That's smart.
Dickinson. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I would love it if Hunter Dickinson showed up with the ski mask on for the NIT.

Speaker 5 Michigan has Toledo in the NIT, by the way.

Speaker 1 Barcelona Invitational. I'll go Furman.
I'll go Furman with my Ray Allen tweet pick. I feel good about that.

Speaker 1 PFD and I want to do it. Oh, yeah.
It would pop. I would love it.

Speaker 2 I would love nothing more than to do Ray Allen Tweet.

Speaker 1 But it's good that we're doing this type of stuff where we can't, because it would lose its luster if we just did it. Yep.
Yeah. I'm excited to watch the tournament with you boys, though.

Speaker 1 It'll be fun to be on the channel with you guys and grind.

Speaker 2 You say that now? By the end of day number two, you're going to be just tapping out.

Speaker 1 I'm curious. I've done four, three, maybe four, West Coast NCA tournaments that tip off at 9 a.m.
Yeah. You wake up, make a little coffee, and then the games are starting.

Speaker 1 So I'm curious to get back on the East Coast. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it all blends together.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because you really don't have a morning, and then you just.
Recording podcasts at 2 a.m.

Speaker 1 Hey, the night after games, you know.

Speaker 2 Thank you for your service.

Speaker 1 God gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers.

Speaker 1 We'll see where that goes.

Speaker 1 You get a little loopy. All right, you want to stick around for the lottery ball? Yeah.
Okay, all right.

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Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 It's time.

Speaker 1 Titus, your first ever chance.

Speaker 1 Hank, have you ever gotten this? Nope.

Speaker 1 You sure? Yep.

Speaker 1 Positive.

Speaker 1 You've never gotten the lottery ball? No. This tit is his first time, so he doesn't know.
How many shows? You guys have done a lot of shows, have you? Yeah. Hank, you want to do a P-back?

Speaker 2 This is our 500th show, actually.

Speaker 1 And you've never gotten it it one time.

Speaker 6 No, you want to do a P-back? I don't have any P-Bat. The water's off.

Speaker 6 I don't have any right now. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, we won't do it.

Speaker 1 Should we let Titus pick first? Just out of he's our guest.

Speaker 1 I'll go 83. 83.
Okay, numbers.

Speaker 2 69. Oh, that was

Speaker 1 PFT.

Speaker 1 88. PFT, he beat you.

Speaker 1 I literally beat you. 17.
Murph.

Speaker 1 What's your number, Billy?

Speaker 7 96.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 1 18. 18.
What was you? 83. I was 83.
Hank, 88.

Speaker 1 20, 96, 69, and 17.

Speaker 2 I percentage.

Speaker 1 A lot of people guessing right now.

Speaker 1 Eight.

Speaker 1 Eight.

Speaker 1 Are you going to guess eight? I guess eighty-eight.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 no, Hank.

Speaker 1 You were so close. You're only 80 numbers off.

Speaker 1 Were you thinking about guessing eight? No. Yeah, I mean, you don't guess 88 without thinking about eight.
Is that true? It's a lot of eight.

Speaker 2 You wanted more eights.

Speaker 1 You got greedy, Jim. You got greedy.
You could do half the amount of eights and you would have won. Everything would have been different.

Speaker 5 PSC, you won on eight twice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, eight's my jam.

Speaker 1 And Hank's never won.

Speaker 2 I would have taken eight, but I took a sign for Billy.

Speaker 1 Ever.

Speaker 1 All right, that's the show.

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