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On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good friend Jerry O'Connell back in studio. Great to catch up with him, especially in football offseason.
We get everything. We talk to Jerry about what's going on in his life.
Great time. Also some funny conversations about our fantasy team and the demar fallout that we had uh towards the playoffs we have college basketball jim mayheim is done at syracuse uh we're gonna talk a little march madness kevin durant's injury we got a lot of stuff to get to aaron rogers possibly being a jet soon maybe in the next 24 hours billy's got his blogs locked and loaded.
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And weather whatever in take it higher Oh, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue It's Pardon My Take, presented by Barstool Sports Welcome to Pardon My Take, today is Friday, March 10th And Jim Boe has been fired slash retired. He's been retired, actually, is how I should phrase it.
He has been retired. He got refiremented.
Yes. It was like a combination of both.
After the game, he was like, you're going to have to ask the university, well, do you want to come back? Well, I didn't say that. He went out as he lived, which is just extremely grumpy and short with the media.
Yeah, it's actually the interaction he had. Hank, let's do a reading real quick.
Hank will be the media. I'll be Jim Boeheim.
This is all quotes that he had after the loss to Wake Forest. This is what he said.
Are you saying right now that you're going to retire? This is up to the university. You want to come back? I didn't say that.
So what are you saying? You're not saying you're retiring. I just said it.
I don't know. So you don't know? I said this is up to the university.
How will you make a determination about when you will come back? You're talking to the wrong guy. So it was basically, it was Michael Scott's, when he was getting tried for having a love relationship with uh jan he like them reading it back was so funny he basically was like yeah the university is going to decide whether i come back i'm not i don't want to retire but it's also not up to me and i'm not saying i want to retire but i also might want to retire and an hour later, he was fired slash retired.
You want to have an office off? Because the office moment that came to my life was when Michael Scott was pushing the former manager of Dunder Biffling quietly out of the conference room. He was still trying to hang out.
That's Jim Boeheim being subtly asked to retire. I think they probably asked him to retire.
and he was like, nobody asks me to retire. I'm going to ask you to fire me.
Yeah. So it's like both shoes were on the other foot waiting for somebody to make a move, but he's out.
Happy refirement. There should be a refirement party for Jim Boeheim.
I think he might actually just keep working at Syracuse. Like, he might just show up next year.
Yeah. Like, you're going to have to fire me again.
Yeah. And, you know, he did have an incredible career.
47 years at one place is insane. Like, he deserves credit.
You know, obviously, the championship season with Carmelo. Four, five Final Fours? Four Final Fours? How many, Jake? Five Final Fours? Five Final Fours.
Five Final Fours. A legend of the game.
I read an article by Dan Wetzel last night that was very funny. It was a story that was retold to him by Rick Pitino.
Rick Pitino and his wife were on vacation with Jim Boeheim and his first wife, and they were all asking each other, like, if you could live anywhere in the world, where would you want to live? And people said Paris. Someone said Hawaii.
And Jim Boeheim said Syracuse. And everyone was like, what are you talking about? He said Syracuse is just Hawaii in July.
What is it? No, Hawaii is just Syracuse in July. So he loved the city.
He loved the people. He loved the university.

I do think that's very rare this day and age.

There was another story in that same article that Ohio State once, like, flew out their AD in, like, all their bigwigs,

and Jim Boeheim gave him all of 10 minutes face-to-face

and was like, I'm not leaving.

Like, don't even ask me.

I'm not going anywhere.

So he's a legend.

It is like these coaches college college basketball especially the coaches and their personalities are a lot of like you know the game and the storylines so it does kind of suck losing another legend after we lost Roy and coach K and coach J so uh salutes to Jim Boeheim the question though PFT, how much blame do we put on Jake Marsh? I think a significant amount of blame. I don't think that Jake did a great job standing up for Jim Boeheim in the last several years, and we've been pretty ruthless towards him.
Now, I, for one, I will miss the zone. I hope whoever the next coach is at Syracuse, they should just have to run the zone forever.
That should be Boeheim's legacy. I will retire, but you have to run my zone in perpetuity for the next 100 years.
Put that on paper, and then we can bid Aloha, the goodbye one, to Jim Boeheim and send him on his way away from Hawaii. I think they will.
It's Adrian Autry who's been there forever. I think he's probably been coaching waiting forever.
He's like, finally. Not really.
How well mike hopkins was supposed to be bayham was supposed to walk away when i was there and then he changed his mind and hopkins is like all right i want to be a head coach i will go to washington ah and that hasn't gone well not really no uh yeah actually he's the current coach at washington i gave spencer haas our good friend my word that i would start a fire mike hopkins uh hashtag so if anyone wants to join me on that, the Huskies, I think, have not been to the tournament in like three or four years. They won in 2019.
Yeah. So I'll do that for him.
Mike Hopkins, you suck. Maybe we bring him home.
Bring him home to Syracuse. He is still the coach in waiting.
Maybe he didn't lose that title when he left. That's true.
So I bring up Jake because, Jake, I don't know if you saw PFT. PFT, by the way, is in Chicago right now looking for a house.
So you might have missed. I found a house out here.
I saw a house today. Nice.
Hell yes. Hell yes.
Jake said, what was the exact tweet? The season's on the line and this is the play you drop. Crying face emoji.
And I think the AD of Syracuse was like, we've lost Jake Marsh. That's it.
You can't lose Jake Marsh. You can lose everyone.
The whole fan base can be upset. But the minute you lose Jake Marsh, Boeheim's got to go.
The problem from my point of view in that tweet is the crying face emoji. It's like you were clowning Jim Boeheim.
I could see Jake, as a neutral observer, questioning the last play call of the game when they're trying to win, trying to preserve Jim Boeheim's career, trying to keep him around for at least one more game. But to hit him with a crying face emoji, BK, you said he was there for 47 years? 47 years, PFT.
47 years as head coach, right? Yes, he also played there. And before that, he was assistant.
And before that, he played there. We're probably talking upwards of 60 years at this institution.
And you're forgetting that he had two sons playing on the team. And you sent him on his way with a crying face emoji, Jake? Yep.
That was the last tweet. That was the last tweet from Jake Marsh while Jim Boeheim was still the coach of Syracuse men's basketball.
Crying face emoji. What are the chances you think Jim Boeheim goes behind the scenes and hits up Georgetown? And he's like, you know what? Fuck Syracuse for pushing me out.
Yeah, Patrick Ewing's out too. I want you to consider my name.
Patrick Ewing got fired, which was the most like, yeah, sure. That probably should have happened a couple years ago because he did win that one Big East Conference tournament.
But other than that, he't do a lot of winning and now Jay Wright maybe gets his dream job that he put his his uh or not Jay Wright sorry Jay Williams put his put his uh name in the hat out of nowhere in January because I think everyone thinks Georgetown Jay Williams yeah that's what I thought for sure first African-American head coach in Georgetown University history history. Or what about Rick Pitino to Georgetown? Bring back the old John Thompson carrying the towel over the shoulder.
Yeah, Rick Pitino, St. John's.
Rick Pitino better be in a major school next year because it's time and there's some openings that perfectly fit Rick Pitino. So we need it.
We need Rick Pitino back. But I would like to get a lot of yeah a lot of openings perfectly ton yeah there actually was a headline which i credit to me i did not make the joke because i think i still have that stalker who just looks at everything i do and says anytime i say anything bad about rick patino he texts me being like i'll kill you um it was from mike vaccaro uh in the new york post column the choice St.
John's now really is a simple one. Rick Pitino or bust.
Why not both? Why not both? You get both. I love it.
Yeah. Talk about your ultimate twofer.
Yeah, right. So, yeah, it was a crazy couple days in college basketball.
I would like Jake – Jake, I want you to try everything you can – move mountains for part of my take and get us Jim Bayham on this podcast. Oh, I can make that happen.
I can give my full effort to make that happen. All right, because – Buddy and Jimmy, if you're listening, hit me up.
Yeah, Buddy and Jimmy, they're AWLs. That's my avenue.
Yeah, so Jim Bayham is a legend. I will give him the respect he deserves.
I also would love to have him on the podcast because I think if we just get him talking, he'll start trashing everyone. I think so, too.
There's also a good chance that Jim Boeheim would hate us. Oh, well, yeah.
Absolutely despise talking to us. Excuse me, you guys are forgetting that he's appeared on this podcast before.
Why? As a Take East presenter. Oh, yeah.
That's right. So we've already done the meet and greet.
We've already warmed it up. Yeah, so we're basically – recurring guest Jim Boeheim will make his triumphant return.
It is sad, though. When you were talking about losing all the legends, Coach K is gone, Roy Williams, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Really the only coach left from that era that I think fits in with those guys that's still around is Tom Izzo. Tom Izzo is that last guy that's still kicking.
And, yeah, it's sad whenever – this reminds me of when we lost Phillip Rivers and Eli and Big Ben in the course of two years. It's sad to see the guard change.
Yes. I was going to say, the other ones we have, and I think the tasks that we need to give them, it's Pitino and Calipari.
They just to get a little more italian because i feel like the older they get if they get more italian the the more like ornery and better they will be for sports podcasts like ours so yeah i mean we actually do as a sports podcast we're losing a lot of material we need rick at a major job yes asap yes well he could be very relevant the next week if they take her business in the MAC tournament yep there'll be a sexy upset pick by the way PFT uh you brought up Big Ben I had to share this with you I I don't know if you saw this as well uh this is from I saw it

Kenny Greer Jr uh locked on Steelers group on Facebook he's playing a Madden season uh franchise

mode and he has an update update I'm now going into the 2031 season Big Ben still won't retire

I'm now going into the 2031 season Big Ben still won't retire I'm not even using the fountain of youth thing to keep him from regressing and I promise you I'm not editing his age bracket all I do is give him new one year deals every season that's it I'm really curious as to how long is going to continue guess we'll find out eventually he may be a a 68 with a 3 overall by the time he retires, and it's a picture of Big Ben in 2031 with a 44 overall. I love that Big Ben in Madden is still living on.
Yeah, all the haters out there that say that Madden is not realistic anymore, look at this. This tells me that there's an AI somewhere inside of Madden that is so far advanced.
It's becoming the singularity because this fucking computer system has it dead to rights and whatever it is. There actually should be a senior tour for quarterbacks in the NFL.
Yes. For old players.
Yes. I would watch that.
And then, yeah, in terms of madness, it's been awesome so far. My Badgers lost.
They suck. I'm actually like, I don't want to say I'm hoping they'll get in the tournament because if they somehow sneak in and be like all right let's gear up knowing that it's going to end in just you know terrible heartbreak and they'll lose in a torturous fashion but if they don't make the tournament i'm i'm okay watching a tournament without having like uh any emotional can't get your heart broken right and i this team has not broken my heart because they just suck.
We also have Villanova who's going to play in – we're taping this at 8 o'clock. Max is going.
Do you want to tell us a prediction? Nova 72, Creighton 60. Did you get a haircut today? No haircut.
I am getting very nervous, though. Did you pop champagne? No champagne has been popped popped, but I know we're going to make it to the Big East final and then lose and then not make the tournament.
That's how it's going to happen. Okay.
Max, it's important to know, though, that your pants tonight, what's the situation? I'm just wearing jeans, no green sweatpants. Okay.
I don't know. We'll see.
It's a long road. DePaul looks good right now.
If DePaul can win, that'll make me more confident. Oh, no.
That's the worst thing to do in March. Why? The team in front of you.
Draw opened up. Yeah, the team in front of you.
No, you can't do that. You have to win every game.
I understand. So it's not like looking ahead, this whole thing is won.
Right. But still, the minute you're like, oh, shit, look at the path, that's when disaster happens.
Remember in 2018 when Loyola Chicago was upsetting everyone and UMBC, the whole path was open for Kentucky to make that final four? Yeah. And then Loyola did.
That's what happens. I remember when Steph Curry Davidson, I was like, Davidson, they suck.
And then he fucking hung one on Wisconsin. I was like, damn, we're set.
We're in the Elite Eight. This is good.
Yeah. He's a skinny little bitch that we have to stop.
Yeah, his ankles aren't even good. His ankles are weak as fuck.
Speaking of which, Kevin Durant, that was tough. Did you see that thing in the layup line when he went up for that? And it looked actually like Tom Seg yeah it was bad that was bad it was really bad i i now i don't know if you guys have the same thing happen to you but uh when we get later in the season it's it's kind of actually like when you have a shitty car and you get in a fender bender and they're like the car is totaled and you think oh my god it's a horrific accident no no it means that whatever the the price to fix it is more than the worth of the car whenever i see season ending industry or regular season ending industry uh injury at this point in the season i'm like oh my god that's horrific i'm like wait there's only like 18 games left he'll be back for the playoffs he'll be fine he continued with the warm-up well it's a it's a sprain it yeah which is worse than a break yeah which means that once again it's on chris paul's capable shoulders to guide the sons to the playoffs yes yes yes he's got this don't worry chris paul take the wheel this is his year yeah um what else we got for march mattis anything else i mean before i make the final pitch to get baham on the show i think you guys need to maybe clean up some comments made about him on the show previously to help our case at getting him on when he no no no no we were talking about Matthew Broderick yeah the whole time that's what you were talking about yeah yeah yeah yeah no no okay yeah guys want to I have selective uh amnesia and dyslexia so sometimes I mix up Jim Boeheim with Matthew Broderick right because they both killed a person with with a car.
Well, that's not going to help. I'm trying to help you guys.
I want him on the show. You guys want him on the show.
He could Google Jim Boeheim part of my take, and some things will pop up that he may not like, so now's the opportunity to clean that up. So really, Jake, the issue wasn't so much with Coach Boeheim.
It was with the standing ovation that he got after killing somebody with his car. That has nothing to do with him.
The hero's welcome. The fans decided that.
Oh, he presented bonk in the air. The Syracuse fans looked like they were a dog welcoming a soldier home from a tour of duty when Jim Boeheim stepped on the court after running over a guy.
No, Jake, there's nothing. I'm Google not gonna find anything it's fine it's totally fine yeah coach we would love you on the show and we won't bring up the fact that you killed the man with your car there said done boom that's a nice i will not bring it up to him i will not say it to his face if he if he sets me up for a joke big time i i'm gonna have the most difficult time of life.
Maybe what we'll do is we'll do the first ever director's cut apart in my take where we won't say anything in the moment.

And then we'll go back like mystery science theater and just add in some jokes.

Yeah.

Like, here's where we would have said this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was too cowardly to make a joke.

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What do you got? Do you see Jake Paul and Mayweather. Yes.
Jake Paul and Mayweather.com. I'm trying to think what other, I mean, we're, we're in the middle of, of all the conference tournaments where you got, do you see Jake Paul and Mayweather? Yes.
Jake Paul and Mayweather. Now I'm woke to this.
Did you see a PFT? I saw another thing from Jake Paul. I saw, so right after the fight, he made like the five excuses and said, I'm not making excuses.
Yep. The other excuse that he made now, maybe I'm eating the trash.
Maybe I saw a screen grab that was altered, but but he said that he had a wet dream he had been withholding nutting for like two weeks and he had a wet dream the night before a fight before this fight against Tommy Fury and he thinks that that factored into the fact that he wasn't able to use his legs as well because he lost all that testosterone he had built up I kind of agree with him I. I kind of agree with him.
That actually makes perfect sense. No, he saw Floyd Mayweather.
Where were they? Were they in Vegas? Miami. Miami.
And he literally ran away. Like, actually, Floyd Mayweather came up to him with a bunch of people, and he was kind of tentative, and then he just started sprinting in the other direction.
Did you see the alternate angle, though? No. He actually, there was a guy coming at him and swung at him.
And he just ran away from him 10 yards, stopped, and then just slowly retreated back into the arena. Jake Paul, apologist here.
I'm not, because he didn't actually. There was a second angle where he doesn't just sprint away and just keep running.
He sprinted away while one of his one of his bouncers like try to hit him. Okay.
Okay. I love that.
Check out the other angle. It's like there's a Pruder film for Billy.
It's like there was a second puncher that nobody else saw. How can we get Jake Paul out of this? I was going to say I'm woke in the fact that Jake Paul, the Paul brothers, are geniuses at what they do and know publicity is bad publicity.
So I wouldn't put it past him to be like, I'm sprint away and then everyone's gonna talk about me i don't care if i look bad if people are talking about me i've done my job yeah that's true that's probably the the spin zone he's gonna go with and he's not entirely wrong about it right keeping his name in the news and i mean if i'm being honest that's probably how i would react if i saw somebody that kicked my ass in in public, I would probably just run away from them. Yeah, exactly.
All right, what else do we have? We have Aaron Rodgers, Jets, heating up. Billy actually said to me, at 3 o'clock today, he's like, hey, I'm about to go see Cocaine Bear.
I've written a blog for Aaron Rodgers to the Jets and Aaron Rodgers not to the Jets. So I'm ready to go for these two hours and I'm watching Cocaine Bear.
It was a good job by you. I love that.
It was the best two hours I spent. Okay, you want to give us a quick review? Sick music.
Not as much cocaine as you think. Okay.
That's surprising. What about bears? Yeah.
Are there enough bears? There's actually more bears than you think. Okay.
There's surprise bears. Okay.
It's not the bear's fault. Okay.
You end up rooting for the bears. Okay.
First time for everything. It is the best.
It's a way better way to remember Ray Liotta than the Chantix commercials. Okay.
The movie's dedicated to Ray Liotta. So dedicated so much you can't get his name right.
Ray Liotta? Correct that. Rest in peace, Ray Liotta.
Liotta? Yeah, there you go. Yep.
They didn't say his name in the movie. True.
You watch all of his movies. He's an actor.
Also, I'm just going to say it. They only write the name.
I'm just going to say it. I do not remember Ray Liotta from the Chantrix commercials.
No, but like the Latin. He will forever be Henry Hill in Goodfellas.
Right. He will be Henry Hill in Goodfellas.
But then you're like, oh, when was the last time I saw Ray Liotta? The Chantrix commercials. Goodfellas.
When it was on TV, like the seven times that it's on a week. Anyway, it's actually a gore film.
Low-key gore. Low-key gore.
All right, so we're going to put this on a movie poster. Lightweight gore.
Yeah. But it's like tons of horror movie commercials before the movie because they think you're like a horror fan, and then you're like, what the hell? I'm not a horror fan.
I'm a cocaine bear fan. Got it.
My question for you, Billy, between the audience that was there, what percentage was there more for the cocaine and what percentage was there for the bear because you were definitely there for the bear aspect i was at a four o'clock showing on a thursday and it was quite the crowd really yeah what does that mean means sparsely i was trying to make sure none of these guys like were weirdos type thing what sparsely okay so how many people there was like five people pat them down and and knowing how you look right now because you are going through some allergic reactions in your face would you it is like when you're playing poker if you can't find the sucker you're the sucker do you think you were the weirdo uh the other guys were looking around being like oh there he is that's the weirdo no it's just like a bunch of dudes in trench coats and big bags. And I was like, what the fuck's going on here? How many trench coats and big bags? Anyway, it was a fun time.
Okay. What steps did you take to make sure that nothing weird was going to go on there when you saw that it might be a dicey crowd? No, no.
It was just like, why are all these guys bringing gigantic bags probably snacks i would have guessed snacks it's a cocaine bear which is or they just came from work because it was four o'clock yeah true um yeah so so there's our cocaine bear review that's our aaron rogers recap yeah i was thinking about aaron rogers today because everyone's saying he's going to go to the jetsets, right? The Jets came out, met with him. Obviously, there was some pretext of the Jets being allowed to meet with him.
The Packers probably thinking the Jets had a good trade package in place, and it's probably close to the end line. And we've been saying throughout this whole process that Aaron goes on his darkness retreat, right? And he comes out of the darkness retreat, and he's like, yes, I would still like still like to play football for 59 million dollars the more i think about it the more he might retire just so that he could have the trump card on everybody to be like yeah i'm the motherfucker who walked away from 59 million dollars like like that's his credibility you better hope he's not talking to dave chappelle because dave chappelle would be like yeah just walk away that's what i did.
I'm sure they're probably friends. Yeah.
So he's made $305 million over the course of his career. $305 million.
He could actually walk away from $59 million. And he said in an interview recently that there are two different types, or there's multiple different types of currency that you can acquire.
Only one is money. The other is energy.
That's what he said in his most recent podcast appearance that he did with that weird guy. So I think he's got all of us in a darkness retreat right now.
He flipped it on us. And I think that Aaron might actually retire just so that he can have that moral high ground for the rest of his career.
I think that would mean more to him than actually having 59 million million extra in his bank account. I'm in on this.
I like this. I like this thought process.
I'm fully sold on him going to the Jets. I just want him out of my life.
But, yeah, I like this. I like the fact that he could walk away and be like, owned you guys, and then I'll just get to spend the rest of my life being like his last pass was an interception in a week 18 game when he had to beat the Lions to get to the playoffs yeah it might happen and also I might look like a real clown when this comes out tomorrow morning and he's on the Jets so just just so you know I'm just tossing this out there because I was thinking about Aaron Rodgers like I was thinking about his decision from a sane person's point of view which is having 59 million dollars for five months worth of work yeah five because he wouldn't make it far in the playoffs uh that's a good deal as far as any normal person is concerned but aaron rogers i think i think he values the opportunity to look down on people for the rest of his life for that cost of 59 million dollars more than he would value having it in his bank account.
I'd agree. I'd agree.
I like to take. I'm in on the take.
Yeah, so we'll find out. I feel like it's going to happen in the next couple days because it should happen before free agency starts, right? You'd think that the Packers and the Jets would want to figure out what exactly their situation is with the quarterback before they start spending money.
let's hope it happens jerry o'connell actually guaranteed that it would happen before this episode airs so um it probably is going to happen like 2 a.m knowing him and how good he is steal selection sunday spotlight second straight year a hall of fame quarterback oh you think so yeah brady unretired on selection sunday last year so damn no respect no respect i i love that Jake remembers that. Yeah.
That's why Jake hates Tom Brady. Hank, do you want to talk about some of the woofing that's going on? People are woofing about Tom Brady.
There is some woofing. I could see it happening.
Oh, okay. He's in 49ers.
He's probably bored. But he has the cat.
He's just got a kitten. Yeah.
He's got the pussycat. You can get someone to help with that.
You think so? Yeah, cats take care of themselves. That is true.
You can leave a big-ass bowl, yeah. Would you take care of his cat if he went back to the Patriots? Yes.
Would you keep it in your apartment? Yes. You'd take the cat? Yes.
In terms of hypotheticals, that was an easy one. So wait, let's make it better.
If he goes back to the Patri goes back to the Patriots you got to get a cat sure okay even if it's a one-day contract no oh come on that's a technicality he's back on the Patriots for a day if he's in film pads on the sidelines he's going to New England no I think well you might want to get in on some of that action he's probably jealous that somebody else took his title of Mr. Mass, and so he wants to come and take it back from Dave.

But I think – what about the 49ers, Hank?

What about them Niners?

It seems like a good fit for him out there.

Cali Boy going home.

Brock Purdy.

The thing – so actually with Brock Purdy,

he hasn't gotten his elbow surgery yet,

and that could be a long recovery.

They probably won't have him to start the season next year.

You better believe that John Lynch is making a call. As he should.
he should i mean i would be rooting i'd be a 49ers fan brady and kittle dream come true even against your cowboys that would push you over the top yeah it would wow okay well tom brady might come back i don't we're just gonna do this for for an entire year i just know it's gonna be maybe more than than that. Yeah, it's going to be a long time.
Brady's coming back. We still talk about Tebow coming back all the time.
That was a strong we. I talk about Tim Tebow coming back all the time.
It's just a fact. It's like four or five years of the show.
Yeah, that's a royal we there. I've been pretty good about it recently, though, but it would be be fun you have to admit to see him running that tasting tasting hill offense out in denver send him home um all right so yeah and then yeah i mean i guess we're gonna find out with lamar stuff and uh it feels like yeah next week's gonna be an awesome week for obviously not only march madness but then the start of free agency it's gonna be just non-stop news, nonstop things to talk about.
Yeah, Leroy told me earlier tonight that he has – there's another big-name free agent that he feels excellent about beating Schefter to. So just be on the lookout for that.
But as far as Lamar Jackson goes, is it weird to anybody else that he's just kind of out there and anyone can have him for two first-round picks and a new contract and no one seems to want the guy at all? And I know that's a very simplistic thing for me to say, but when you think of how many desperate, desperate, desperate teams there are in the NFL and the opportunity to at least make yourself guaranteed relevant next year, it's shocking that there hasn't been more buzz more. Well think what you're you're talking about too is a lot of people are not a lot of people but there have been at least a few people i've seen float out the uh collusion name because they're saying essentially lamar not having an agent is a slap in agent's face uh so that no one else is going to try to sign him and then he's going to have to come back and play on the tag and it's going to be like a big hey everyone you need an agent don't fuck around with this well i think it's less about you need an agent and the collusion is more about the fact of nobody wants to pay him a guaranteed contract like the owners are so pissed off about the desha Watson deal.
Yes. And they know that Lamar wants a fully guaranteed contract.
So I think if, if collusion is happening and there's like, there's a good chance that the owners are colluding on this. It's just to the point.
We're not going to give this anybody else guaranteed five-year deal. Yes.
Yeah. I mean, that's that part, like Deshaun Watson's contract definitely did kind of fuck over Lamar because I don't think anyone wants to give him a guaranteed.
But it will be interesting to see how it plays out because I agree with you, PFT. It is weird.
I can name 10 teams that should at least be trying to get him right now. And we haven't heard of like any so far.
Yeah, maybe maybe more than 10. I did.
I did. I accidentally texted the president of the commanders the other day, Jason Wright, just the Photoshop of Lamar in a commander's uniform.
I was like, oh, wrong text. Ha ha ha.
Sorry. He does look pretty sweet, though, doesn't he? So I'm working the phones right now trying to get Lamar to the commanders.
You got a response? Yeah, I got a response. I'm not going to get into that, but but i i got a response from him well no response is a response no was it words or was it just like a thumbs up he was just basically like that's a you're very good at photoshop and i said thank you shout out shane shane's very good at photoshop shane's very very good one of a very talented guy um all right uh should we get to jerry o'connell i't think we got much else.
I mean, everything's going on right now. It's all the games.
Shout out Rutgers. Yeah, shout out Rutgers.
The University of New Jersey. Yeah.
Statement win today for the boys. Hunter Dickinson, tough, tough look going out on his revenge tour.
I don't think Michigan's going to make the tournament. I am a little excited to just be – I can't remember the last time that Wisconsin was truly on the bubble where I actually have no idea what's going to happen on Sunday.
Like I'm going to watch and be like, oh, we're in or, oh, we're out. I think we're out.
I'd almost guarantee we're out. But it's kind of exciting, right? Like there's a little bit of excitement in that.
And if like a bunch of the upsets and the random lower conferences. Yeah, you don't want bid stealers.
Yeah. Oh, that's what you don't want.
You're ready for the one C's. Right, right, right.
Like Ohio State? You want bid stealers. Different type of excitement for you, Big Cat, to watch the selection show.
Like you're the team sitting in the big auditorium and waiting to see if your name gets turned over. That's kind of cool.
Yeah, right. Exactly.
I'm going to be excited. We'll just be like, oh, here we go go while we're talking about this tune in sunday 5 45 barstool bracket show me big cat and mark titus hosting it we'll have plenty of special guests at the end and beginning i thought oh i am on the beginning as well yeah and a little bit of the middle yeah and a little bit of the middle i'll be on uh it's gonna be great so special guests moments after their team is selected uh Yeah, it should be fun.
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Yes. Live bracket reveal.
And Titus is going to be on with us on Monday in person, breaking down the bracket. I'm so excited to just get that fucking bracket in my hands.
I'm so excited to be wrong again. Yeah, well, you always are wrong.
You fired Jim Boeheim. You ran Jim Boeheim over with your car.
Essentially. Metaphorically.
Metaphorically, that's what happened. That is what happened.
PFT, any other thoughts before we get to Jerry O'Connell? No, I was going to start high-stepping after the first five minutes or maybe seven minutes of this UNC-UVA game because I bet the under. And I actually hate betting unders a lot, like most people who are listening to me talk about unders.
But it's kind of fun to bet UVA unders because they're just like this anaconda that suffocates you, and it's ugly, but it's a beautiful type of ugly. Yes.
So I like betting UVA unders. They're the only team I'll consistently do that with.
But then something happened in the second half, so now I can't high-step on that anymore, and now I feel like an idiot for even thinking. Even though I didn't say it out loud, my brain jinxed it.
I did a silent jinx. It's impossible to win in March.
Every two hours, you're just like, all right, back at it. See if we can do it this time.
Nope. All right, two hours.
Let's try again. Yeah, over and over and over.
Get well soon, Ben Vanderplass, UVA. I would say.
Huge AWL. So are you going to use your one get well soon on that? Versus.
Well, we all get one get well soon. Is that what you're using it on? Like per show? UCLA.
Yeah. Use it on UCLA.
Are you using it on this? No. He broke his hand.
No. His wrist.
Are you using it on this? Okay. I'll use my get well soon on Bill Self, who had possibly a heart attack and is in the hospital.
So get well soon, coach. I feel like broken wrist, heart attack.
I don't know. That's just me.
No, the heart attack wasn't true. Okay, well, he had a major episode, and he's in the hospital.
I hope he has a fast recovery. No, no, no, no, no.
You only get one get well. You're changing the rules.
Get your get well out. Jimmy Carter.
Okay, get well out of Jimmy Carter. Is he dead? Liberty is.
He's still alive. He's still alive.
Hank. That's crazy.
I know. Do you have your get well of the day? PFT, you got a get well? Demar Hamlin.
I hope he's still doing good. Okay, there we go.
Press for Demar. Yes, yes.
Get well. It's a long road.
Nice. PFT, you got one? Yeah.
Billy, I hope that your monkeypox is cleared up. Okay, nice.
All right, nice. So Jake used his on a broken wrist.
A guy who – Yeah. No, I love Ben Vanderplass.
He'll be better. He will be better.
I can guarantee he's going to have a full recovery. Hopefully everyone just announced as well.
I know. I do actually.
I hope he gets. I wish he was playing in March.
It's kind of a bummer. But he should have gone to Wisconsin.
Maybe we would have gone to the tournament. Also, Red Panda got booed.
Yeah, Red Panda. It's over.
I was there. It's done.
Probably like a 60% success rate. Wait, you were the.
Oh, no, you weren't. It wasn't.
Wasn't it United Center? It was here. Yeah.
Oh, that's brutal. It's over.
But someone tweeted on me that in the night session, as we're recording right now, she won a perfect six for six. That's the thing about Red Panda.
She bounces back. Yeah, but, man, it might be time.
At the Mecca. At the Mecca.
It's a Big East tournament. You can't do that.
Come on. What was that game that she was doing? Georgetown-V Villanova? You can't be doing that.
Red Pan. Providence UConn.
Providence UConn. Brutal.
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In studio is J.O.C., and it's a special time because we're not even – it's not fantasy football time. It's just catching up with J.O.C.
time. Jerry O'Connell is here.
It's great to see you. You look fantastic.
I don't know how you're getting younger looking. What's going on? Well well i am in full makeup right now i came from uh television appearance and they i have quite a bit of makeup on me and um actually it's it's funny i have makeup on my face because um billy could actually use some makeup on his face something is happening there's a breakout but it's actually uh it's uh it's not just a zit it's a borderline viral thing what is happening yeah his face he looks like he had lip fillers overnight he came in with a mask on and we're like hey buddy kovid's over we we won we we we beat that fuck and uh he was like well i have a mask because because my lips is I mean, there is like medication like Zoravax and sort of like herpy medication.
It's not a herpy. You do look like you just got back from plastic surgery.
But terrible lip fillers because they're not even full. I know.
I'm allergic to something. Let's just get it out in the open.
There's no hiding from it. I have to speak into a mic all day And people have to see my lips I don't know what happened

You're Billy Jenner right now

Yeah

Very Hollywood

Do you get cold sores?

Is it something you get?

Do you get breakouts?

Only on his back

No

Show Jerry O'Connell your back

Show him your back

We blurred it out again

We blurred it out last time

We'll blur it out

Look at my boy's back

Let me just see it

I got shot up with enough

Torrid all

Listen Jerry

Jerry probably is

Borderline a doctor

Alright no that's gotten better

It's gotten way better. I'm so sorry, and I know you guys test here, but are you doing a cycle? Are you trying to bulk up or something for the summer? No, it's not steroids.
Why don't you look him in the eye when you say it's not steroids? I will take a piss test. If anyone wants to put me on a USADA real test, I will do it.
Billy's always trying to get us to look at his piss. We never have.
He just went USADA on us. Yeah.
Yeah, he's struggling, but you look great. I mean, do you do your hair to look like that because you have the perfect, a little bit rustled hair? Oh, yeah.
It's perfection. I'm hitting on you right now.
No, no, no. The hair has got to go up.
It up it's something i actually learned working in television you have to hire someone who does something with pomade and uh hair dryer and gets the hair up and you'll notice every uh every i i hate to assign race to it but every white male tv person has that like that swoop that tv swoop that that poof. And I never adhered to it.
And I think it's why I was not working a lot. And then now that I have this daily job on CBS every day, they have someone who makes my hair go up.
Yeah, it's nice hair. Can I ask, is it all your hair? Is that natural serial final hair? Well, I'm going to move over to you and you're going to feel it.
Are you willing to take a test? No, I mean like... Are you sought a test? That's your natural hairline that you've always had? You've always had that hair.
That's fantastic. You've never had anything...
Anything. Because, Jerry, you're a big Hollywood so-and-so, and I am looking for somebody to fix mine.
Well, because you can't ask, is that your hair? Because you could have gotten the Turkish transplant. Yeah, right.
Oh, no. By no means am I saying that Jerry O'Connell is wearing a wig.
Has your hair been moved around at all? I did do some early replacement stuff, some surgery. Oh, okay.
So, yeah, yeah. Where they take...
Actually, it was really experimental. I have, like Billy, I have a very hairy lower back.
For some reason, there's a tuft of hair on my lower back. And they took some of those follicles and transplanted them to the front of my head.
That's fantastic. You're giving me hope right now, Jerry, because it's starting to move its way back.
And I don't know, I'm thinking maybe I'll get on one of those 747s, go over to Turkey. Have you seen the videos of those flights? People get on these flights over to Turkey to get like $1,500 hair follicle surgery and then the returning flights home, it's just all like 30-year-old dudes with their heads wrapped in bandages.
It's like a big bros trip. The crazier one is the Brazilian butt one.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Because then the people come back and they're all laying with their chest on the chair yeah they have to have their butt in the air yeah or you take the one to singapore and you come back with all the frozen peas on your dick yeah there's that one too all sorts of crazy flights out there um yeah don't uh i mean this is like in in bummer news don't go to mexico to do it like those people got yeah oh yeah yeah that is bummer news that is bummer news.
People got killed crossing the border to get surgery, which I guess it's easier to get surgery there because they don't have the same rules. Yeah.
Yeah. You just get any surgery you want.
I learned that. So Mexico tourism has actually picked up a lot in the last five to six years, especially like the last three.
And all these previously undiscovered cities are becoming hotspot tourist destinations because what mexico did during covid they went full florida mexico was like the only country that said we're not having any restrictions everybody come check out our country right now since you can't go anywhere else give mexico a try and people went to mexico and they're like oh it's delightful but the last like two months have kind of they've pumped the brakes on that I recently went to Cancun and I highly suggested it was yeah you had a fun time seeing your frogs went to a quaint establishment Papas y Beer we're more of a Papas y Beer family and we did one night at Carlos y Charly's with whole fam uh went with the whole fam yeah i have teenage daughters so we all went and uh um you know what we did that's fun that's sports related my teenage daughters are playing club volleyball now and it's funny um uh you can tell my voice is uh just a little uh a little deeper um this isn't my my pardon my tick voice this is because i spent uh the weekend at a a girls volleyball tournament in las vegas all weekend and um my uh my daughters went uh two and seven two and seven two and seven that's better than oh and nine but also you're a hollywood guy i mean you can't can't you you just change that on their resume when they're applying for college? Just be like, well, they were the best volleyball players in the world. No, we actually don't even go volleyball.
We just say that they're on the rowing team, and we take photos of them on rowing machines and then superimpose it and then totally deny we thought there was anything wrong with it. We thought that's how you apply to college.
That's how most people do. I just want to say this right now.
I want to get this out in the open. If you need to do any funny business to get your daughters into college and you end up in jail, we will defend you.
Right. So we will do a Justice for Jerry campaign.
We will be like, no, no one has the facts. We have the facts.
We will have, you know, you can call us from jail and come on the show. Like, we will be ride or die to the death for you.
How about this? If you ever get investigated for us, just hit us up, and we will do a fake pretend interview with your daughter, talk about how great she is at rowing on the number one sports podcast. Then you can use that as evidence.
Like, she's the best rower in the history of high school sports yeah uh listen if there is a way to like pay if there is still an avenue to pay and fake your children's way into college uh after my daughter's performances this weekend i'm going to have to go that route or you could hit up like the state welfare department and build her her own stadium yeah that's hot in the streets right now that's a tough one yeah that's a tough one we got your back like you're walking out of this room today knowing like good i would say up until i'll say up to double homicide single homicide we'll still have your back double i think we'll have to distance ourselves yeah it's funny my daughter's um it, it's so crazy what happened. And Billy can probably help me out with this.
They have problems, how do I word this? Jumping. Yeah.
They don't have hops. And I actually, I went, I can't believe I'm going this route with them.
I'm looking into ordering them. Billy's going to know about this.
Strength shoes. Oh, I have some.

Yeah.

I recall you wearing them around. Yeah.
The shoes that are isometric. So they isolate your calves.
Now, is that like there's so much embarrassment when you have to wear them publicly? Not if you're a clown like me. Yeah, I understand that.
If you have absolutely no shame, then it's fine. If people see myself and my daughters doing squat thrusts in a parking lot, that's going to be damaging to my children in the long term, right? I feel like that's...
More so to her, I think. Yeah, that's a good story.
Well, the thing about it this way, I mean, you came out great and you fenced as a kid. Right.
That's the weirdest thing you could possibly do. But we are vertically challenged in jumping, and my daughter said, Billy wants to jump in here.
I just got to say, I know a lot of stand-up... I can't take him seriously.
It's crazy. There's a lot of stand-up people who have done PEDs to get into college, because college does dictate the rest of your life.
Not at all. Name one person.
There's a lot of stand-up people to get into good institutions. So instead of faking the rowing, let's just juice up your daughters.
Oh, you know what? It's so easy to juice up your daughters without even getting in trouble for it. What happened there? We just stumbled on something that Billy, unfortunately not been able to get out of his head as a young two years, three years post-college.
College has nothing to do with the rest of your life. I know, but if you want to get into a good college, you should absolutely juice up your daughters.
I'm not going to juice up my daughters. I hope to have grandkids someday.
And also, I think, you know, when you're going through those changes, I don't think you should be messing with your body's metabolism. Juice up one daughter, your least favorite.
And then the other one is like a control group. Do you like going two and seven? She's the one who will have grandchildren.
It's crazy. It's crazy how much, I'll tell you this much, and Big Cat, you're about to get into this world.
It's amazing how much I'm a screaming parent on the sidelines. I can't believe I've turned into, and it's really interesting because I don't have sisters, so it's so funny.
You know, there was a break in the game and the other team was stalling. And because my daughters are 14, they immediately became like sort of self-conscious that they were just like standing out there and their body language was like their arms were folded.
And I was from the sidelines and I was like, girls, girls, stay in tents, stay in tents. Like, don't, like stay warm stay warm stay warm and my daughters who are 14 are like that shut up shut up and i'm like girls do not let this break you keep going keep going stay warm and like then they then they defy me by not staying warm like i want them like you can imagine if someone called the time let's say you scored four points in your basketball league in hoboken and someone said hey timeout timeout and they started tying their shoes or something you'd be like come on man let's play ball what are you doing get up yeah and it's so funny um my daughters don't have that in them and it really embarrasses them when I yell things like that.
They don't have the dog in them. You gotta get the dog in them.
They do not have the dog. Do they have a dog? You know what's so funny is one of my daughters has the dog.
When we were coming home and they went two and seven and I was like, you know guys, you're losers to like embrace this you're losers it's good parenting like you feel this feeling do you like it and my one daughter was like no and i was like well what are you going to do about it and my daughter was like i want to get better i want to practice so yeah i think i think that the other one was like i'm cool with being a loser uh the other one is more into drama and stuff. Well, the cool with being a loser is actually, she's actually far progressed in life.
Because, like, you know, we all lose a lot in life. You lose all the time.
Right. So it's actually better.
You're looking at a total loser. Yeah, we're all losers.
And look at me. I'm a regular guest here on PMT.
Yeah. But if you can accept losing, life gets a lot easier.
It's actually the secret to life. Expect to fail.
And then if you don't totally fail, that's like a huge victory. That's a huge win.
If you get angry every time you fail at something, you are going to be a miserable person. You're just going to be fighting against the world nonstop, angry at everyone.
Also, you should tell your daughters the other key to life is never give 100% of your effort. That way, when you do fail, you can be like, well, I wasn't even trying.
Oh, gosh. That's so funny.
That's like, I mean, just to keep it sports, that's like that guy Jake Paul when he lost that boxing match was immediately like, I got sick twice. And, you know, I didn't have a good just like take the L.
I mean, by the way, he went up against a professional boxer who's related to Tyson Fury. Take the L and say, I tried my best.
I'm going to come back better. I love how in the interview he was like, I had a shoulder injury and I got COVID twice.
I'm not going to make any excuses about it. I know, it's crazy.
And I'm just ready to get back out there again you know who's really good at losing is uh is a cool is uh joe cool is um uh um joe burrow um when he lost the super bowl last year i thought he took that l really well he really i mean that's how you do it the eagles did this year unfortunately but they did like james bradbury being like yeah i held him that was actually a classy way to take an L oh interesting yeah I uh because you know he could have easily went in the locker room and said no the refs fucked us how do you call that there but yeah you know diffused it a little bit you know it's funny this Super Bowl for me I don't really give a shit about like the Eagles or the Chiefs so I wasn't I didn't even care it was you watch of course I watched but it was

such a orders did you get to watch the whole thing all right what what PFT is referring to is I came on the show and I said during Sundays I'm only allotted two quarters to watch you know I have a family and that's my day off and I should um you know spend time with my family not yelling at the TV hoping Christian Kirk gets five receptions.

Mm-hmm. and I should spend time with my family, not yelling at the TV hoping Christian Kirk gets five receptions.
But I got to watch the whole four quarters. I made it a family event.
That's awesome. Yeah, but it was such a relief.
I didn't care. It was so wonderful watching football and just not caring.
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You didn't have any Eagles slash Chiefs on your fantasy teams that year that you had grown a kinship with? Yeah, but once the season is over, I just don't care anymore. Actually, you know, in the fantasy league that you so kindly and generously allow me to manage for you, had some drama at the end of the season some big time drama and we never really addressed it uh because it was sort of a tricky situation to talk about and i just want to say for the record i i put out the first text uh when it was not a comfortable time to put out texts on these subjects speaking of is the demar episode where he died on the field was resuscitated.
And then everyone had to figure out, is this guy going to survive? Will it be appropriate for me to talk about the fantasy implications behind this man's almost tragic passing? And if I remember correctly, Jerry sent out the first text while they were doing CPR, right? No, no, no. It was before the CPR.
No, it was a few days after when there were definitely signs of life and definitely signs of a possible full recovery. And I believe I waited until Damar spoke.
Well, which Damar? Billy can get into that. We don't know if that was the real Damar.
It was the real Damar. He was wearing a mask.
This might not be the real Billy, actually. Were those goggles? Billy, are you a clone? His face is so hard to look at right now.
This is not the real Billy. What was I supposed to do, take a sick day for a swollen lip? He looks like he has the Joker face.
He's trying to do... You look like Joker.
I'm not going to kid you. You have to disinfect that mic when he's finished.
You have to. Yeah.
And not just for COVID purposes. It's not.
For viral... Because that is...
Herpes is a real one. I was not even making a joke.
He has fleas too. No, I thought it was fleas.
Well, his dog works at a flea factory. You know, as an actor.

He actually works here.

At a flea factory.

You know, as an actor, one of the first things they do on a set is make you sign a form saying,

do you have herpes?

Because you have to, like, kiss people and stuff.

As an actor, you would be.

Are you talking about porn?

No, I'm talking about, like, TV and stuff.

Because you have to kiss people.

I mean, you know, on shows, they kiss people.

Billy, you would have to disclose what is happening to your face i it's not hsv1 wow you're sometimes you sound like such a doctor sometimes it's not what was the type of steroid he pulled out oh toward all mesothemiola yeah that's anti-inflammatory wow i kind of need right now uh jerry i i have a bone to pick. Oh, well, hold on one second.
Before we get to that bone, I want to talk about. So we were in that league that you guys are in for big money.
And going into that final game of the fantasy season, my opponent was playing the quarterback from the playing um uh the quarterback from the bills no wait we had we had joe we had joe and they had and they had josh allen yeah and if you recall joe burrow i believe threw one touchdown all already and the bangles are going to win that game 70 to nothing yeah and the bills made a stop three that's would have retracted those points and uh and and then the and then the Bengals made a stop and I believe uh um I believe the bills it was 7-3 when they it was 7-3 but the Bengals were driving and the Bengals were driving unstoppable right driving and we were gonna win we were gonna win. And then the game was canceled, as it should have been.
Players first, players first. That's not what you said to us.
That is not true. That is not true.
Jerry, you called us right after. You're like, can you fucking believe this? Play the fucking game.
That's not true. Jerry said Skip Bayless is getting crucified.
No, that is not true. I understood the argument, but I did never.
may have thought it but i never said i never said it and it was our season on the line it was it was a lot of money it was a lot of money so i waited three days there was i believe communication i think i waited for words not just like scribbling and um i finally i sent the first text and i started off with of course the hashtag

hashtag prayers for tomorrow immediately beautiful um and um i added um an emoji maybe i think it was a three was the hands yeah the hands uh hands and then a number um Number three.

Number three.

And then I said, oh, hey, BTW.

Um. and then a number um number three number three um and then i said oh hey uh btw um uh what's what's up with our league uh because some other leagues i'm in the the the two people in the final it was week 17 uh decided to just split the pot uh We were on our way to winning,

LOL, hashtag prayers for DeMar.

And then I think I sent another text right after,

like prayers for DeMar, all in caps, you know?

And then you wrote back and you went,

it's becoming a situation and we're in it

because the person was leading,

the person we were up against by just a few,

like seven points.

Yeah. And they wanted to end the scoring there.
Yeah, so here's what happened. The guy that was leading, I think you're exactly right.
I think we're down by seven points. We're all waiting to see what the commissioner is going to put out there.
Commissioner, I think C.J. McCollum was the commissioner.
So we're waiting on his ruling in his fantasy league league and this motherfucker that's beating us by seven points fires off into the group chat with a celebration gift the pete weber who do you think you are gift i am i think had argentina holding the trophy oh yeah yeah messy messy he put messy in the group chat being like pay me my money he just declared himself the winner yeah and then other people started to be like well i guess i guess congratulations to you and i told jerry this was going on and jerry's like you gotta you gotta fucking storm into that into that text thread and stake your you know stand your ground that's where the negotiation opens yeah so i said no no no no no no no this game was not over right you were up by seven the projection had us 45 chance of winning at this point. So then I countered.

You have to come in strong with your anchoring.

Yeah, but hashtag prayers for Demar.

Prayers for Demar, obviously, yeah.

So I said three.

Obviously, we're thinking about Demar here first.

However, the Yahoo projection had me at a 45% chance to win.

Prayers for Demar.

Prayers for Demar.

We hope he's doing okay.

But I think it's only fair, and in a lot of my other leagues,

prayers for Demar, they're awarding the jackpot based on what your percentage was. So thinking about DeMar, can we get 45% of the pot to us, knowing that they would never agree with that? And obviously DeMar is what we're thinking of first.
And then we started the negotiation there. We ended up coming to a mutually beneficial, agreeable decision,

which was we spotted them points,

and then we just used our quarterbacks going into Week 17.

Yeah, and the matchups were not in our favor. I forget who it was against.

And we lost, and we came in second.

And I'm really sorry, guys.

I apologize.

We got our money back.

It's a ship wrong.

Jerry, second place is as good as a win in these things because it's just it's nice to feel alive going into week 17 what you could have done too and what i did in the fantasy leagues i mean that i was out of playoff contention i just sent a group text to everyone saying hey look i know that i'm not in the playoffs right now but if it were me i would donate all this money to tomorrow's charity I did suggest that in one of the texts to you when it looked like we were going to have to go into week 18. Right.
It's just like, just be like, hey, look, again, I'm not in a place to donate this money. But if I were, I 100% would.
I like it. It's sort of like if I'm not going to win, then let's just blow this whole thing.
Yeah, right. Yeah, no one wins.
Exactly. I had the suicide vest on.
I was ready to do it i'm looking i've been looking back through our text that night we we went back and forth probably like a hundred times trying to figure out how to how to hold this motherfucker's feet to the fire because that's it takes some balls on the he's on on the almost grave of a young promising nfl player he's just storming into the group chat demanding money i want to say he never used the hashtag also in those texts. Oh, wow.
So he wasn't praying for him. He was not.
Like, we ended every sentence with hashtag prayers for Damar. And that jerk, not even one, not even a number three.
Didn't even think about praying for Damar. Was just thinking about one thing.
All right. I got a couple more things for you, Jerry.
Oh, yeah. And then we have to get to PFT's bone to pick with me Aaron Rodgers so excited so you're announcing it I'm not announcing it I'm excited I gotta say I think it's gonna happen I can't believe by the way in our league last year I did play Mike White one weekend and he did really well for us, but then he shit the bed the next week.
Billy, on a scale of one to a thousand, how excited are you? Is it official? I mean... No.
Just make it official. Yeah, according...
Jerry, just make it official. You have until Friday when this airs.
Take a shot. It's official.
It's official! He's going to be in New York. Congratulations.
He's going to be a total scumbag. By the way, if by Friday it's Jimmy G, I'm going to, I'm going to do something.
I'm going to start cutting myself again. Jimmy G would not be able to handle New York.
Yeah. Do you think that Aaron Rodgers is going to be able to handle the bright lights of the New York media? Speaking of which, yeah, you should take this.
Oh yeah. Just take it home.
You don't have to read it right now, but that's Billy's report. You can read that later.
Wait, let me just see this. How the New York media ruins Jets quarterbacks.
Oh, several case studies. I actually can't wait to read this.
Yeah, no, it's fascinating stuff. It's a good read.
Wow, why'd you use 27 font in this? Like, we're not counting words here. This is crazy.
That's 12. What about the periods? Are they double perioded? I couldn't, so I couldn't do that.
I wrote it in the blog back end, so I couldn't do that. You tried to cheat, but you couldn't.
I tried. If the NFL, or if owning, or if having any sports team is about getting butts into seats in a stadium, which is really what...
I'd say it's all about that. Well, listen, I don't think in this day and age it's all about that.
I'm watching on TV. You know, I think with...
What's the word I'm looking for? Collective, however... Collusion.
No. Bargaining? No, how everybody makes the same amount because...
Socialism. Are you a Bernie guy? Are you a Bernie guy? People don't talk about how the NFL, it's socialism, but for billionaires.
So if your team doesn't sell as many tickets, it doesn't matter because you get money from the teams that do sell a lot of tickets. No, it's the TV deals and all that matters.
But let's just say if back in the day it was about, like it's a pretty simple business model. You build a team.
It does well. You get more butts in the seats.
You sell more jerseys. That's how you make money.
If it's about getting butts into the seats, the Jets getting Aaron Rodgers would be the ultimate. I mean, it would be like, just think about the first two weeks of the season that we're all still Jets fans.
I mean, it's going to be completely sold out. Does MetLife have a vaccination requirement for fans? They've got to Billy would know it's sure I know I lived in Hoboken but yeah I listen he will break your heart um and he won't care that he does it but I love him he was such a good sport on this show what an interview what an interview he was a good sport what an interview I'll give him that.
I'll give him that. So congratulations.
The Jets are back.

It's first reported by Jerry O'Connell.

And by the way, you know, Brees Hall will hopefully be back at the beginning of the season.

Yeah.

I think we have a great receiving core.

The defense is great.

I'm really excited.

The number two pick overall is your backup quarterback.

I am.

That's huge.

I'm very excited.

Hopefully against some blowouts and Zach Wilson gets in there. No, no, no.
And learns under the Dodgers. No, no, no.
He can't give up on Zach Wilson. God, didn't you, I'm trying to recall, didn't you call Zach Wilson super elite in one episode? Sealing is Patrick Mahomes.
Sealing is Patrick Mahomes. They can make, literally physically they can make the same throws.
Physically, they may not do it at the right times or as accurately, but he can do the same thing. Or to the right people wearing the right jerseys.
I think it's already given... Robert Salah even said, he was like, we just want Zach to get better and if it's with us or someone else, we're just rooting for him.
Which basically, it's like, he's never playing again. Oh God, you know what i'm not watching anymore though is any of this like combine draft stuff i like every time i try and look at like a draft board or like a mock draft board it's like it completely changes every day you can't even like it's it's funny it's actually quite freeing i'm not even thinking about fantasy these days because there's nothing to do.
You have no idea who's going to go where. I will say this.
I am probably, if you guys allow me to manage your team again next season, I'm definitely going to take whoever is wide receiver one in Chicago. Oh, okay.
So you're buying in on Justin. I'm buying in on Justin.
I hope Justin is their guy he's going to be okay he is okay because some people are reporting it right now no I'm reporting it okay um I I love Justin Fields I promise you also I will only draft you I don't care how early I have to draft them I will only for the for the rest of time um tale as old as time I will only draft a quarterback that is a uh running quarterback yeah you love Taysom Hill yeah absolutely love the guy are you still addicted to Taysom or did this season break you uh no I I I had Taysom uh a little bit we played him a couple weeks and that was an error and I want to apologize for that we probably would have we would have been on the winning side of that what Jerry does is. What Jerry does is you get like premonitions about Taysom Hill.
So there's no rhyme or reason to when you decide to sprinkle him in there. You just say to yourself, I think this is going to be a Taysom Hill week.
I'm going to drop him in. And then it never is when you think it's going to be.
It's so funny. They were such a weird team to watch last season, the Saints.
I mean, they were just so weird. Depressing.
It wasn't depressing. It't depressing it was like a fever dream i mean like jamis is on the sidelines anti andy dalton is trotting out there tasem is scoring touchdowns it was like a fever dream yeah yeah um no alvin kamara i'm gonna stay away from him next season yeah oh yeah did you run into him in vegas no no that would be an an all-time headline if if you just like busted his balls about being shitty in fantasy that would be pretty and he just beat the shit out of you yeah oh you know what i saw at the volleyball tournament uh i saw um this is really fun um i saw i hope i'm i'm not breaking hollywood uh like privilege conversation rules here i saw vince vaughn there he has a daughter and it was so funny i looked at him and he's a tall guy.
So it's like the first thing you look at. I mean, not that we judge people physically here, unless it's something growing on Billy's lip.
But, you know, he's a tall guy. So you think like, oh, yeah, his kid must be good.
His girl must be good at volleyball. He's a big guy.
She's probably an outside. And I thought it was so fun that I saw him in Vegas because I think so um i i think about him when i think about vegas because remember in swingers when they go vegas vegas did you did you talk to him uh yeah i went up to him and just gave him you know i tried to teach my kids um uh you know when it's like game day because they were like at this point they were oh and five i was like girls we're just gonna listen to public enemy and i want your airpods in and we're not talking to anybody you got to be a little more intense when you're going in here and um uh so i was trying to get them intense for the game and that's when i saw him and he was like oh hey buddy how's it going and i was like no no so he knew who you were uh yeah are you are you that like where are you in the you're not a list i think you're a list you're a list to us.
Uh, no, no, no, we're not. So he knew who you were? Yeah.
Are you that, like, where are you in the, you're not A-list? I think you're A-list. You're A-list to us.
No, I'm not. There's a strong possibility he thought I was Jason Bateman because he just did refer to me as Buddy.
He was like, hey, Buddy, hey, Buddy. And then I just pointed to my headphones and I went, I can't, we're just, we're getting ready.
We're on court. I like that.
And he was like, oh, your daughter's, are you playing, buddy? How's Ozark? And I said, I can't. We're just getting ready.
It's got to be impossible for him to go to Las Vegas without having a thousand people just screaming, Vegas, baby, Vegas, baby.. Yeah.
So your daughter beat the shit out of his daughter?

No, there's no way.

I don't know if my daughter, I don't think my daughter played his daughter.

I think his daughter was in a different, we were in sort of the, whatever is the lowest level.

Fun league, yeah.

Fun league, yeah.

Yeah.

And it was, we're going to regroup.

We're going to get those strength shoes.

I'm going to do those exercises that come with a pamphlet with it.

I'm going to get my kids some hops.

I'm going to get them on Ramamitol.

What is it called?

Turadol.

HGH would be probably better. We're not doing anything.

Come on.

It's not even a joke.

It's not even funny.

Just let's juice them up.

Come on.

Let's get them to college.

It's not even funny.

Jerry just winked at Billy when he said it's not even funny. That was weird.
It's not even funny. Let's juice him up.
Come on. Let's get him to college.
It's not even funny. Jerry just winked at Billy when he said it's not even funny.
That was weird. It's not even funny.
Billy, hit me up later. Jerry, I do have a problem with you.
Okay. Suck it to me.
Maybe we can talk this out because it just occurred to me actually this morning. We love having you on the show.
I love being here. I love listening to it.
I'm going to guess seven times, maybe eight times. I just love it.
I love everything about it. Number one sports podcast.
You're a wonderful guest. We love having you.
Schefter was fun. It was so fun to- Yeah, he's a piece of shit.
Hank, put a future on it. He's a piece of shit.
Schefter, he's a scam artist. You know what's really amazing is hearing him hear just his sports voice that he actually talks in.
Yeah. It's pretty amazing how that sort of infiltrated his everyday way of speaking.
Yeah, no, that's him, 24 my problem with you is you know i was at a golf cart yeah and i'm so sorry i want to hear it in a second i was at a golf cart and uh this young lady came up and said we want everyone's phone number but they didn't take mine i like how you incorporated three stooges yeah too um how come we've never been invited on one of your shows, Jerry? Oh, man. Listen, I host a game show called Pictionary.
It's on Fox. Check your local listings.
A lot of your fans, AWLs, are always tweeting me about it. I would love to invite you guys on there.
It would be great. You're just saying that because I just asked you.
During grid week. I would love to invite you guys.
That's not even an invitation. That's saying you would love, like, someday it would be great to get to the act of inviting you.
I would love for you guys to be there. Now, listen, we can't, we don't have a budget to, like, fly you guys.
I know you guys guys go private we don't have that kind of budget you know i mean maybe like spirit with a couple of connections tops allegiant okay but i i want to say if during grit week you are on the west coast we'd never do grit week in la what are we soft you're gonna? Well, no. A lot of teams do have their practice facilities in Oxnard and stuff.
I mean, maybe like a McCarthy swing by. With the socialism again.
Okay, you get us Mike McCarthy. We'll do Pictionary.
Wow. That's a good deal.
What a challenge. That's a good deal.
I'm going to look into that. Okay.
I'm going to look into that. We will come.
We'll interview Mike McCarthy. We'll do Pictionary.
How am I going to do this? I don't know. You can figure this out.
I think you're two phone calls away from Mike McCarthy. Easily.
It would be so fun to have you guys on there. It's fun.
Aren't you really good friends with Jerry Jones? Weren't you on that bus when he was? No, I've never met Mr. Jones.
i actually have been to a number of uh dallas cowboys games i have um i have a couple friends that went to smu that i met when i first moved to los angeles and we were in a flag football league and then uh that rules well it was it was and they're like pure dallas guys like Jim, all chest and b's every day.

And I did really like them. And not to generalize and stereotype, but people from Texas drink a lot.
And we had a lot in common. And one day they were like, hey, man, it's SMU Homecoming.
And then we always go to the – usually SMU Homecoming falls on Dallas Giants. And then we go to Cowboys Giants.
And every year, I go to Dallas for the SMU homecoming. And it's not Conference USA.
What are they in now? Some crazy conference. I heard that they're actually going to join the Pac-12.
Are you joking? No, I'm dead serious. Wow.
Because there's going to be all this realignment. But I love going to dallas so i go to a cowboys game once a year i really uh i i really enjoy it it's a really fun experience you know yeah you know you know mike mccarthy i don't know mike mccarthy but uh i've never met jerry jones it's so funny um what about that picture of you at that school oh man it's not It's not even funny.
Oh, no, that was Hank.

That was Hank.

It's not even funny.

It's not even funny.

Well, people were showing us pictures of Hank standing next to Jerry Chels.

It's hard to tell what's real and what's not.

Yeah, that was crazy.

That was crazy.

I think we got to let you go in a second.

Yeah, let me do the last.

I got to do the Roback question.

Okay, yeah.

Do you read?

So, Roback question.

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Joggers, I'm wearing them right now. It's not even a question.
It's I know you always prepare something, so why don't you just. Oh.
Yeah. Okay, great.
I saw you read through that. Yeah, no.
I usually just write a little something for one of you guys and just an homage to you. And just, you know, as a fan, as all the fans, as all the AWLs out there, we like to just write a little something.
I've done Billy. I've done Hank.
And I don't really know that much about Max. He's new here.
You're doing a great job. But I thought I'd do PFT.
Oh do pft oh okay is that okay yeah lucky me so here

we go this is a poem for pft pft pft pft such a student of the game sports reading and sports spelling pft pft pft but no matter how much you hope and pray dan snyder is never ever selling pft pft pft you're mighty with the mouth not just mighty with the pen pft pft pft no matter how much liver and intestines you eat you will never ever make it to 210 pft pft KPft you are our big pimp like pootie tang or hugh hefner pift pift pift pift for the love of god let's help ghost of leroy scoop the fuck out of adam schepter yes yes pft pft pft pft you are our touchdown our goal our super bowlFT, PFT, PFT, PFT. But seriously, your greatest victory was getting off that fucking Zim.
Oh, he's back. No, no, no.
Oh, no. He's got a chokes in me, Jerry.
No, it's such bad. It calls you.
You got to just cut it out. When it's over, it's over.
It took me forever, man. You got to get off that crap.
Just you saying that I'm going to have no. No, stop.
PFT, PFT, PFT. You'd be better off vaping.
PFT, PFT, PFT. So congrats on 500 Eps.
We're so happy for you. We could cry.
PFT, PFT, PFT. Thank you, Mr.
Commenter. You will always be our number one poop guy.

Oh, yeah.

Thanks, Jerry.

Thank you, Jerry.

That was a great poem.

It means a lot.

Jerry, do I have a copy of that poem?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I'm going to take the Knicks.

The Knicks are back, 33.

Okay.

Jerry, while this is going, can you just give a comment on Raquel's statement?

69.

A comment on what?

Raquel just issued an apology.

Oh, really?

On Vanderpump. Yeah.
Am I breaking news to you? This is breaking news. 90.
You'll get it. You'll get it.
What a bummer. You'll get it.
I don't know anything about Vanderpump, but one of the ladies that escorted you upstairs told me I had to ask you about Raquel's statement. I haven't read it.
You guys should watch Vanderpump. They're all so hot hot these girls everyone's hot the guys are hot the girls are hot man it would be so fun wouldn't it be fun to get billy on one of those like bravo shows like where he's like he does look hot working as a bar back at like one of those vanderpump bars yeah what are those lips about there billy you can't kiss anybody though demonic because that's a union show and you can't kiss anybody sign that disclosure form.
I don't have HSAV1. You have to disclose it, though.
You have to. I'm allergic to something.
Dude, there's a record of this. There's footage of your lip, and it's on there.
So zero context. Are we team Raquel? Or who's it? Tom? They're all hot.
You have no idea who we're talking about. One is hotter than the next.
I'm team all of them. Please.
Okay,. Great.
And you're going on out and about right now. I'm going on out and about.
All JOC fans, check that episode out. I think they do have some Vanderpump questions for you.
So thank you, Jerry. I love you guys.
I love all of you. Max, great to meet you in person.
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Use promo code PARDON15 and you get 15% off your 15 off your order thank you to 3chi go check it out today okay uh fire fest of the week we ready hank yeah i don't have much let's rip oh i mean the only real thing that i could even you know qualify into the fire fest category which isn't really a fire fest but i've just gotten addicted to online shopping oh i got rid of i got rid of a bunch of my clothes like i did a full purge and just took like three big trash bags to goodwill which then was like oh i can buy some new stuff

and now and i was never big online shopper it's never really been a thing i do i usually just

take all the free stuff we get and that's basically my wardrobe but now i'm just i've

been just shopping every night little fancy boy what websites are you using all of them

Thank you. We just take all the free stuff we get, and that's basically my wardrobe.
But now I've been just shopping every night. Little fancy boy.
What websites are you using? All of them. Ooh.
We got any new fits? Yeah, we got some. Are you debuting them this weekend? Probably debut one this weekend.
Okay. For a gambling stream with like seven dudes sitting on a couch.
Maybe Saturday night I might go out after like that. We'll do a two for one.
Okay. Okay.
I'm excited for the new fits. We should do Fashion Week next week.
Hell yeah. Have Hank debut a new fit every week next week.
No, I'll just guess. You guys can guess.
Okay. If it's a new fit or not.
Yeah. Today's not.
No. Okay.
Yeah. I nailed that.
I'm one for one. It would be sick if Hank did all of his fit shopping at the Barstool store online, so it's impossible.
Saturdays were for the boys and were like, is that a new fit? Hank's going to come in with a mean girl jacket. Tell a blue t-shirt.
Yes. Well, we'll get to that.
PFT, your fire fest. My fire fest of the week is I got called a yuppie today oh no and it's been a while it's been a while since i've been why actually i've never been y worded in my life and i it it took me aback um and it was actually not even just somebody calling me a yuppie but one of the houses i was looking at somebody a neighbor had come by as they had poured the cement in the driveway and they wrote on it fuck you yuppies oh no people that were going to be buying this house oh and so then i'm like i'm looking at this house am i am i a yuppie so i don't know like are we yuppies as a podcast probably yeah well actually what maybe only son of us yeah yeah no i mean i i think i think probably yeah right what is the actual definition of a young young urban professional oh okay so spin on i am young i'm 29 i am urban i am a professional football talk commenter and i do stupid stuff i an at risk urban youth actually So yuppie is a different way of calling me An at risk urban youth so thank you A young person with a well paid job And a fashionable lifestyle I'm not a yuppie I don't have a fashionable lifestyle I have the least fashionable lifestyle It's a good fit This is not fashionable You're a fat You are a yupp a yuppie, Hank.
You're wearing a collar. I am wearing a collar, but I am not fashionable.
I think that is very much the facts. I wear buttons probably once a month.
Does that mean... I don't think I'm fashionable at all.
No. You don't have to worry about it.
Jake's a yuppie. was a little too fast you piece of shit he gets too you're wearing sweatpants and a hoodie right now that's a new fit he paid good money for that new Boston Red Sox hat you've got on no it's a new fit trying to become Mr.
Massachusetts um I think we are yeah but it I think we are it stopped me in my tracks because I was like I I don't think I can buy this house no matter how much I like it. Because then I'm walking in every day.
Yeah, you'll have fish in the ceiling and shit if they're doing that. Yeah.
Every day I'd be walking up a driveway that was calling me. It would be a constant reminder that I'm a yuppie.
Yeah. Yeah, no.
Cancel it. That house is gone.
See ya. Yeah.
Nice try. You should buy it and tear it down show them yeah try yeah you know what i'll buy it i'll destroy it that's how much i hate yuppies i don't want anyone to live there you got it um all right my fire fest um okay so to set the stage uh stella blue coffee thank you for everyone who's purchased it uh well i also am very partially responsible for this.
Oh, yes, you are. You'll chime in.
So thank you for everyone who's bought it. It's been going really, really well.
Spend a lot of time on it. We have meetings.
A lot of new stuff coming out. Everyone get excited.
Some maybe cold brew coming up soon. So anyway, we had our meeting on Wednesday.
And Stella Blue, blue i have some really really good people who work on it uh shout out trevor kale courtney uh and so they showed us some new shirts and uh hank actually chimed in and was like i think we can be more imaginative with these shirts not like a criticism but more like hey let's let's think outside the box here, not just text, right? So they said, okay, we'll work on some stuff and get back to you. Great.
Meeting ends. I texted memes and Shane on the side after that being like, let's get going on these shirts.
So meeting ends. The plan is we'll see some new shirts in the next couple of days.
Flash forward to last night, Wednesday night. There's a text thread, Max, Memes, Hank, and Shane are on it who do the social for Stella Blue.
And in pops four new shirts. I see them.
They were the worst shirts I've ever seen in my life. So I said that much.
I was like, holy shit. they came back with worse options and i was like we'll i'll just talk to triggs who does a lot of our shirts he's an incredible artist he'll get us some good shirts take about a five minute beat whatever boom text pops up from max just to me and he's like hey dude shane made those shirts the guy who sent them to you on that text chain so i just completely trashed these shirts to shane uh without realizing it so it was a we're gonna have to build off this it was i'll tell you what pft i'll send'll send you the shirts after.
They're not that bad.

No, they're really, really bad. I think we got to sell the shirts.
No, they're really bad. We might have to sell the shirts.
I think we have to sell the shirts. Here, I'll actually send them right now.
He put Stella's face in the A, and it looks fucking sick. It was the best A I've ever seen drawn.
So I went up to him after, and I was like, look, dude, the shirt sucks. but the a was just so good that we can we can find a way to to come back from this if we just maybe make the shirt with just the a so uh to be fair to be fair to shane a lot of his time is spent just by making like make-a-wish photoshops for us players that we wish were on team.
No, he's talented. He's handcuffed by spending a lot of his creative capital doing just utterly meaningless photoshops that we make because we're pathetic fans.
Maybe he didn't have the right amount of time that he was able to contribute. It's also, you know, these group techs are supposed to be a safe space where we can collaborate and give ideas.
I thought I was in a safe space. I thought I was in a safe space.
I thought that the person who made those shirts wasn't sending me the shirts in the text chain. You guys actually, I had a talk with Maxim.
Yeah, you see him, PFT. I just sent them to you.
They're sent so bad. I would wear this.
That tells you how bad it is, and I would wear it. But check out the A.
Look at the A. Zoom in on the A.
the a is so good maybe the best day i've ever seen i went like full trump on him when i went up yesterday i was like that a was fantastic it's like the best you make the best a's i've ever seen but yeah i had to talk with max memes like you guys got to protect me because i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna say what i feel and uh yeah it was uh i also i saw it i saw it later i saw it probably like an hour after and it wasn't if it was jake or billy or like max or even memes i would have been like ha ha ha ha yeah i was like oh shane yeah this is this is just tough i i went up to him and he just was shaking his head and i was like look dude like we'll this this will be a we'll we'll take this a and we'll build a house out of the a and our friendship and our our you know being co-workers we will we will move on from this and become stronger together by just focusing on the a and the a only well it will change what he should take away from this is that you're genuinely upset about it. Of how bad the shirts are.
Yeah, yeah, yes, yes. It was so good.
Yeah, but you would... Big Cat just kept digging a bigger hole because he realized how awkward it was.
And he said the first text that I texted, I was like, that was Shane, that was Shane. He goes, oh my God, this is so awkward.
Shane, please respond. Yeah, he wasn't respond yeah he wasn't responding i was like shane they weren't that bad and then i was like yeah they aren't that bad as soon as he responded and then it was just like joke after joke just like he was emptying the clip on jane and i was walking home and i was crying laughing the entire walk home because as soon as he got one response it was boom like a machine gun just going off on him.
Max actually told me that he was walking down the street and one of his friend's friends saw him and was like what's wrong with Max he was just laughing so hard in the middle of the fucking street on New York City. Yeah she was like is he on the phone with you right now because he's just like he was just laughing so hard in the middle of the fucking street on New York City.
Yeah, she was like, is he on the phone with you right now? Because he was just laughing, like outwardly laughing on the streets. Someone else saw it.
You guys got to show us these shirts. Oh, yeah.
I sent them to PFT. I didn't want to send them back to Shane.
Because then he'll be like, what the fuck are you guys doing? That would be really bad. But yeah, I'll probably just post the shirts tomorrow.
Was it worse than Brock Purdy Gertie Man? No, that was a pretty bad shirt, too. Yeah, yeah, that was a pretty bad shirt, too.
Good point, Bill. Yeah, that's the other thing.
No, that was Billy's suggestion. That was Billy's suggestion for Boomer.
Yeah. No, we have bad shirts.
I've had bad shirts. I've had shirts that shirts that sold like three.
So I'm not. That's part of the game.
That's part of the t-shirt game. Yeah.
See? But zoom in on the A. Look at the A.
That A is sick. Yeah, that's a great A.
It basically looks like a shirt that you would buy. Actually, put the shirts on the YouTube.
So everyone should be watching the YouTube. We'll put them on the YouTube so people can see them.
They look like a shirt that you'd buy for like $10 at a beach shop at Myrtle Beach. And you're like, oh, this will be fun.
You're like seven daiquiris deep and you're like, this will be fun. You wear it once.
In his defense, no one would buy the original. You're also limiting your audience severely.
Yeah, true. Right now, I was saying I would wear it, but now that I'm thinking about what the shirt says, like it'd be very weird if I wore that shirt right now.
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Although he's back. Yeah, the shirt says dog dad.
Yeah. And it's just.
And why did he throw the logo also in there? Like that was. It was the first draft.
Okay. It was first.
He was getting notes and you just, you know, ripped up the paper. Well, i didn't know it was him who made the fucking shirt you gotta protect me too hank you were silent hank never even chimed in by the time i came in the body was buried the last i had said to him i was like i will take credit i was like all right looks good send it the last thing i said was all right looks good send good.
Send it to Hank. I like it.

He might hate it.

But then,

and then,

Hank, did you reply to that?

And then,

I didn't know he was going to put it. No, he didn't send it to you.

He didn't send it to him.

But I,

I thought that he was going to send it to you personally

before he sent it.

Yeah, I would have told him not to probably send it.

But that's all right.

I don't, you know.

Oh, shit. It's the first draft.
I would have given him some notes. We'll come back from this.
I'm confident. It's, you know, this is a seminal moment.
This is like Zach Wilson throwing six interceptions. Like, you got it.
Well, that's a bad example because he's out of the league. It's, give me an example.
Wait until the New York media ends on this story. Yeah.
No, you know what? It's Michael Jordan getting cut from his high school basketball team. That's what it is.
Shane's going to be Michael Jordan. He's worth his weight in Photoshop.
That's true. That's true.
All right, Billy, you're fire fast? Well, we talked about it a little bit in the interview, but I've had some weird allergic reaction, and it's just giving me Kylie Jenner lips. Like, it's just my lips.
Yeah, you look really bad. Yeah.
Yeah. And, like, it's just...
You look great. Sometime my lips are swollen, then my face is swollen.
No idea what's going on. Allergist at 9 a.m.
tomorrow. Hopefully we figure it out.
But the worst part is all the better... Are you still seeing the hat man building? I would like to see a...
You know, you guys always talk about the Big Ben injury chart. Like, I would like to see that for you for the last 12 months because just even thinking back on it, there's like 10 different instances of it.
No, it's just the alpha gal ticks, which means I might be allergic to red meat right now because I just haven't stopped eating red meat. So it could be that.
Hopefully people are watching YouTube's, the YouTube version, mostly to see Shane's terrible shirts, but especially to see Billy's face. The swelling has gone from my lips to my cheeks.
I don't know what the fuck's going on. I'm just thinking.
Sorry, Billy. I was just one of my issues as a human being is that i love awkward moments and i i also like i'll always just make a joke and so i'll keep making shane jokes until like we'll be at his funeral i'll be like dude do you see that fucking shirt uh but yeah billy you you have looked better i know i know it's fine uh but the worst part is you have to take all these like antihistamines and they give me sleep paralysis and i literally have to fight the hat man every night which is like a sleep paralysis demon that's terrible for the past week and a half talking about the hat man it's either i keeps talking about the hat man which is like we know who the hat man is it's like it's either i stay up all night itching or i wait pft who's are you talking about orthodox, no, no, he's talking about a guy.
It's a silhouette of a guy with a hat on. Billy sleep paralysis is just a Jewish person.
Like I gotta fucking get them. And the worst part is the more Benadryl he takes, the hat keeps getting bigger.
Jesus. It's terrible.
I haven't had a good night's sleep in like a week and a half. It's really creepy.

Oh, man.

Yeah, the sleep paralysis is the scariest thing in the world.

I get it like once every few weeks, and it's just.

Do you get the figure?

Oh, I usually just get the feeling like my brain is awake, but I can't move my body.

Like I have to start sleeping, not facing the door, because if I'm facing the door, I see the hat man. Dude, why don't you get a nightlight? Because I can't fall asleep.
Get a nightlight. I got a couple in my house.
Why don't that just make... Get down on the fan app.
The hat man more visible? Yeah. He can't sleep going towards his door.
I think you gotta try something. Because that's where he shows up.
Oh, my God. Aren't you watching Last of Us like the zombie show? Yeah, but there's people out there who have taken Benadryl and gotten sleep paralysis and see the hat man.
I had somebody hit me up on Twitter after they started talking about the hat man, and their reply summed Billy up perfectly. They said, oh, Billy's mistaking TikTok for his actual life again.
Oh oh no that's not true it's it's in my sleep listen sleep paralysis it's a tiktok thing though yeah it's not a tiktok thing it's pre-tiktok people talk about the hat man all the time it's like when you take too much benadryl you see the hat like a sleep paralysis demon see when i have sleep paralysis yeah i just my brain is awake and then my i can't move my body and then all of a sudden a fucking shirt appears and it's shane's shirt and i'm like get me out of here this is hell the worst is when you're totally asleep and then your brain is like your brain tells you that you're asleep and then your brain tries to wake itself up but then you enter like a second dream and you think that you're awake because you think that your brain has tricked yourself into waking up but you're not up yet and then you get robbed or you can't punch trying to punch and you can't punch trying to move and you can't move yeah no it's very bad alright Jake wrap us up last night I dog shit. Oh, I haven't done that in a long time.

Pretty basic, but yeah, it's dark out.

How do you know it was dog shit, Jake?

Because I could tell.

It wasn't human shit?

It was not human shit.

You found out right away?

Yes.

Oh, okay.

You felt the squish?

Because that's actually not...

The squish.

The worst part about dog shit is if you get inside and you're like, what does that smell?

Oh, no.

I knew right away.

Okay.

Yeah. Yeah.
Pretty basic, but Oh, no. I knew right away.
Okay. Yeah.

Yeah.

Pretty basic, but it happened.

It's not good.

Yeah.

I once shit my pants so bad, and I tried to tell all my friends that I just stepped in

dog shit, and they're like, let's see your shoes.

I was like, no.

I was like, no, no.

I think I got it off.

Oh, my God.

Am I in a stroke?

It was like Donnie Brasco. No, I- I'm not taking my shoes off.
Yeah. I sat in dog shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
Damn it. Someone pooped my pants again.
All right. Let's wrap up.
What are you doing, memes? Billy's face is just getting bigger on the right side. Wait, let me see.
I just realized that half my face was small. Oh, I thought you had, like, chaw in.
No. No.
Oh, yeah. Your face is getting bigger.
I literally thought you had chaw in this entire time. Billy, can you step in front of the camera? It's literally either.
Step in front of the camera so I can see. I make a choice every night.
Go to the ER or just take a bunch of Benadryl and fight the hat man. That's my choices.
You're doing a good job. Yeah, you're making the right choice.
Those are my choices. Step in front of the camera for PFT.
Let's see. Look at that.
Yeah, I know. His face is getting...
You look like Stifler's mom. Yeah.
What am I supposed to do? I have to go to work every day. I can't just hide.
I would go see a real doctor. Have you been going to a vet? No, I just...
How come you have to keep going back? I go to CityMD and they shoot me up with Toradol. And they're like, what are you allergic to? And I was like, I'm going on Friday.
You're allergic to Toradol.

No, the Toradol makes it go away.

Oh, man.

I think Billy's just addicted to being weird.

It's also doctors open in the morning and later in the evening.

No, but like I booked the allergist.

It was the first time I could see it was this Friday.

So tomorrow morning, hopefully this horror is like we kill the hat man tomorrow.

I think that's probably it, Billy.

I think you have to defeat the hat man in your dreams and you're going to keep swelling up until you do hell yeah yeah it's gonna be tough all right let's uh wrap up the show we got the bracket on sunday titus in studio it's gonna be a fucking great great day uh let's do numbers hank have you ever gotten this nope have you ever gotten in this seat nope oh because you don't sit in this seat no i don't Nope. Have you ever gotten it in this seat? Nope.
Oh. Because you don't sit in this seat.
No, I don't usually. So you've never gotten it in this seat? No.
Okay. Numbers.
I'm going to go with 17. 69.
18. I mean, he didn't say it.
Why didn't he say it? I'm off my game right now. Why didn't you say it? I'm off my game.
I gave you so long. We're going 51.
Alright, I'll give you 69, Billy. I'll take 17.
Yeah, I'll take 17. Jerry took it.
Oh, you took 17? All right, then I'm taking 69. I'll take 96.
I took 17. I don't like Hank's vantage point.
Yeah, I know. What do you have, 51? One.
One for memes? I would actually like to win from this seat. 18, Jake.
Oh, if you win from that seat. I would like to win from this seat.
Oh, my God. If you won for that seat.
What do you got, 20? 20. Then that's a system win.
That's a system seat. Seven.
Seven. Oh, and 20.
Oh, 20 popped up. 20 tried to get up there.
Oh, my God. Oh, no.
Wow. That fucking there.
Just the second time for seven. Oh.
Nice try, Hank. Thanks.
Go download the Barstool Sportsbook in Massachusetts. We're live, 10 a.m.
Can't lose parlay. Bruins? No, no.
It's basketball. We're going to do basketball.
Can't lose parlay. All right, we'll see you on Monday.
UCLA?

Oh, yeah.

Love you guys.

The hat man can't actually hurt you.

I've got to go apologize to Shane again. Talking away.

No, I don't know what up to say.

I'm saying it anyway.

Today is an update to find you shying away I'll be coming for your love again Take on me Take on me Take me Take on me up

I'll be gone

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