Bears Head Coach Matt Eberflus & GM Ryan Poles, Crazy Sports Weekend With UFC, CBB, Ja Morant And More

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The earliest interview this podcast has ever done. So if we screwed anything up, that's because we were up so, so early trying to get our brains fired.
But a very good interview with them talking about their football philosophies, talking about the first pick in the draft, Justin Fields, Matt Eberflus being a cat guy. A lot of good stuff that we covered.
And we're also going to recap pretty crazy, a lot of sports this weekend. College basketball, UFC, NBA, John Morant, not so good.
A lot of sports stories that came out in the last three days update from Combine. We finally got Bryce Young's height and weight.
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And boys, I don't even know where we want to start. Spin the roulette wheel.
XFL. XFL.
It's still going strong this is my problem yeah xfl uh kind of got lost in the sauce this weekend dc defenders three you know okay they had a big cup snake they actually listened to the people and allowed the cup snake to happen this weekend besides that uh don't really care okay so that's our xfl recap uh i drank a lot of beer yeah i don't know't know where we do. I mean, Conference Championship Week is imminent.
We are starting. We've already started some.
There's some bids that have already been taking place. Five bids.
Five bids that have taken place. Saturday was another great day in college basketball.
And I guess what we really should start with is Max being the biggest jinx in the world. So, PFT, you also had UCLA.
Yep. Max.
Heavy UCLA. Tore Jalen.
MRI is not out yet. The MRI is not out yet.
What happened? Jalen Clark for UCLA, their best defender, tore his Achilles. I'm just going to say there's too many Jalens.
Yeah. Too many Jalens.
I can't keep track of all the Jalens at this point. It looks like a torn Achilles if anyone watched the play.
Yeah, no, I told Max afterwards because he got us all invested in UCLA. We were going to be the Bruins.
We were going to get excited. Our guy Mick Cronin, great.
You know, they're whooping Arizona. Everything feels great.
Blue blood. Blue blood.
Number one seed. They're probably still going to get a number one seed.
Bill Walton talking think the 1973 team was getting honored and uh pft i was so mad at max and so mad about everything that i went and i found like alternate fan angles of his torn achilles and so i've seen at least three different angles including the the tv copy it is a torn achilles now isn't it possible though that if any coach kind of relishes this opportunity where nobody believes in you, it's Mick Cronin? Yeah. Was UCLA too highly touted going into this tournament for Mick Cronin and his underdog mentality to truly shine? Listen, they're still a very good team, but that was their ceiling because he is their best defender.
He's a very good player. He can change a lot of games with how he defends, and now your rotation gets shorter.
Yeah. And what's the old saying? Fuck, what was it? Next man up.
No, that's not it. Yeah, good call.
That is not the saying. No, next man up.
I like it, Jake. We're going next man up.
More teams. Let's be honest.
More teams should do next man up. No, it's play eight, trust seven.
Now UCLA's going to be play seven, trust six. A lot harder to do.
That's a lot of math. Well, that's basketball.
Play eight, trust seven. When you're in March Madness, when you're in the NBA finals, playoffs, play eight, trust seven.
It's a good way to go about life. There's still probably going to be, Titus was telling us earlier, that there are probably going to be one team still.
They will. So they'll be protected a little bit.
This is, it's not good. I'd rather not be in this position that I am right now.
But I still got my Boilermakers. Yeah.
Boil down, baby. Good thing no one from Tennessee got injured this week.
I know, Jake. Right? I'm trying to confuse people.
One over my head. Good thing no one from Tennessee got injured this week.
Nope, no short Kings from Tennessee got hurt.

I love that dude Ziegler, too. What were you going to say, Hank? I was going to say spin zone.
Maybe if you're trying to find one, just picture this in a couple weeks. Cold open before one shining moment.
It's the injury Achilles. Oh.
Start of the DVD. Music starts.
Tip off the national show. Okay, because I can picture it.
Saturday of the opening weekend, UCLA loses the 1-8 matchup, and Max is sitting off the stream, and I'm just screaming at him the whole time, being like, look what you did, you fucking idiot. And he's just like, I shouldn't have got my hair cut.
I'm a bad guy. I might jump in the boat for Nova, too.
I might put a future on Nova. might put a i might put a future on nova to win the nit yeah that actually is good bet yeah let's do it although those teams usually don't try hard in the nit i don't even know if i'll make the nit okay max is the definition of down bad right now it's been a bad it's been a bad three weeks for old maxi yes but he has paid he has paid and uh he's paid up the super bowl bet and uh yeah we had a great saturday great sunday college hoops we're gearing up this is one of my favorite weeks of the year we'll have some content coming out for it so uh they was it was a very good like wall-to-wall last something about senior night senior night really gets it going you know everyone gets the same uh framed picture of yeah of their jersey their family is standing behind them.
And it's always funny in college basketball because if you have your family out for an MVP award in the NBA or the NFL, you've got money, so everyone's dressed really nice. In senior night, it's like your parents are just looking like your parents.
They've always looked like your parents. I love the giant ribbons that they wear sometimes.
That's only a ribbon that you would wear on an occasion where you're walking onto a hardwood floor we should also talk about maybe the most important college basketball news of the weekend which is which we haven't touched yet um this is from lebron james yeah just woke up from having a dream yes that mj and i was shooting the sh asterix plus sign i he meant shit. Back and forth at the men's national championship game between North Carolina slash Duke.
Great vibes and epic classic game. It was a tie game, 94 to 94 with five seconds left.
UNC with the ball. My ass would wake up to see the bathroom right before seeing the ending of the game.
Palm emoji, palm face. Happens all the time.
Never got to the end. Anyways, felt real as hell.
Lol. Good morning, everyone.
Smiley face. So I got to figure out.
Let's just figure out what happened at the end of that game. It's also good to know that that's another way of settling the GOAT debate.
Because LeBron James is literally dreaming about hanging out with Michael Jordan. Do you think Michael Jordan is dreaming about hanging out with LeBron James? No chance.
Absolutely not. He's probably dreaming about drinking tequila.
I think UNC won this game 97-94. Yeah, they had the ball.
Yeah, UNC had the ball. It was a tie game, 94-94, five seconds left.
Incredible last-second shot by, who are we going to say made the shot? Antoine Jameson. Antoine Jameson with Eric Montross on the assist.
Yes, yes. Tyler Hansborough, he was the coach at UNC.
And then Rasheed Wallace smoked LeBron James out after the game. Yes, Hank.
One casual take I had watching the Duke UNC game. Oh, yeah, that did happen as well.
No, that rivalry is dead. Dead.
Over. Over.
Coach K killed it. Shouldn't have retired.
Which brings me to my next point. I don't even really, because my Duke fandom has fallen over the years.
But I was watching that game. Carolina seemed like they're not going to make the tournament.
They just seem like a team from a casual point of view that somehow wins the ACC tournament and gets in. They have experience.
They've been on a run before. They just got to get hot at the right time.
They're not hot right now. Very bad this year against good teams.
But somehow these teams get in. That's kind of what happened with UNC to a different extent, obviously, last year.
Those are my keeping eye out. But UNC actually won games in the regular season last year down the stretch.
They won at Duke, the last game Coach K ever coached at Cameron. They haven't beaten anybody.
They beat UVA. Yeah, their first quad one win was UVA, I believe.
And their only quad one win. Something I'm looking at.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. I think what you're going with here, Hank, is that you like the uniforms.
And when you see those uniforms in March, you're like, that uniform usually wins this time of year. It is.
It is true. We have all the love came back.
I watched him rip my heart out last year. Rondo Bacot, probably going to roll his ankle 17 times but still put up a double-double.
These things happen. They just got to get hot.
Okay. That's true.
I don't hate it. It's a good point if if unc gets hot they have the they have the players that's also one of the experience that's one of those uh they have the name they have the colors yeah that you won't feel dumb because you're just like well it's unc right that's that's on them not me yeah they're unc okay that's yeah not a bad thought yeah duke did win that game and it is it's just the fact that it's not played in the 80s anymore is depressing to me.
It's sad. It's just sad having Coach K not around.
It's a major be careful what you wish for situation where it was. We needed Coach K around.
I miss him. College basketball needs a villain.
He was a reason for me to wake up in the morning. Yeah.
And now I have no reason to wake up. Nothing good in my life.
I just stay in bed all day. Yeah.
I'm hoping that he'll come out of retirement. It would be nice.
What if he just took the team back and was like, I'm going to coach him in the tournament? Yeah. Shire's not ready for the tournament yet.
Yeah, must-watch tournament. I mean, it already is must-watch tournament.
Yeah. Why not? Because who knows who's good.
I'm just very, very excited. Kansas lost.
What if Coach K came back, took Duke, and then won a national championship? That would kill me. That would be very funny, though.
That would kill me. I'll be honest with you.
I would root for Duke if Coach K did that. I would root for myself to bury him again.
I would root for Duke in that tournament because just the content. Yeah.
All right. So, a lot of college basketball coming up.
Should we talk a little UFC? Yeah. John Jones, the GOAT, is back.
Awesome card, like, start to finish. I don't know if you guys caught, like, the main event card, but the guy, Bo Nickel, who I think went to Penn State, who was, like, a stud wrestler, just an insane wrestler, he's going to be a freak.
And then the guy from Kazakhstan, Rachmaninoff, he is the Term the Terminator that dude is crazy he just beat the fuck out of Jeff Lewis's face and then was like all right I can't knock you out you have a really good chin let me just choke you literally put you to sleep standing up yeah he he connected on like six or seven straight punches right to his jaw yeah and the dude wasn't crumpling yeah just like taking like taking the abuse. A solid choke from Stanton.
You very rarely see that. And the woman's Shevchenko and Grasso.
Grasso's a beast. She's like plus 600.
Grasso's a tiny little monster. They were saying on the broadcast that Shevchenko I think had like only lost like maybe like one or two rounds in the time that she had the belt.
Yeah. Did you see the replay? Joe Rogan pointed this out afterwards.
Yes. So Grasso choked Shevchenko out, and then when she released the choke, you could see the line on her face where the blood had pooled and where there was absolutely no blood circulating.
Yeah. And the bottom half of her face, there was a clear line there.
It looked like paul azinger's head in golf where it was just completely white from like the lips down it was awesome i don't know what it says about me uh but i have you know i'm a i'm maybe whatever one step above a ufc casual is because i do probably purchase i don't know 10 pay-per-views a year so it's like not casual casual, but like I obviously, it's not my main sport that I'm studying all the time. But in my watching of UFC, I've grown to absolutely love submissions.
Yeah. Like I know that a lot of people don't like the ground and pound and like the wrestling because a lot of times you just don't know what's going on and guys will lay on each other trying to get an angle for like a whole five-minute round.
Something about a submission, it's so primal. Just watching it.
It's crazy. Watching some of the toughest people on planet Earth be like, no mas, I can't do it anymore.
Just get me out of this situation. And that was Jon Jones.
It happened so fast. Surreal gain.
It was basically the worst performance you could have because the only memorable highlight you had was kicking your opponent in the dick and then getting choked out within a minute and a half after that. Yeah, Jon Jones, when he came out there and he stepped in the ring, they made him cut his foot wrap off for some reason.
It was an illegal foot wrap. And then he stepped in the ring, and I was like, is Jon Jones fat now? Well, he was fighting a weight he had to step up but like he's he's definitely big in the midsection right now although he we didn't have uh because joe rogan will call guys out he'll be like this guy looks soft he said that earlier yeah he's like he looks soft yeah i'll be honest with you he's soft right now that's a brutal thing to have happen as you're stepping into the octagon i think john jones is the best ufc fighter of time.
I think at this point it's hard to say otherwise because he has that one loss on his record, but that was just for illegal elbows, right? When he's beating the fuck out of a guy. Yeah, no, the only person who could beat Jon Jones is Jon Jones.
Yeah, or the drug test guy. Well, yeah, his demons.
Yeah, so... He had an interview, it was a while, a long time ago, where someone asked him like do you think you can stay out of trouble and he's like I hope yeah he was very honest about it he wasn't saying like yeah I'm gonna I've changed he's like no I this just keeps happening to me and I know it's a problem it's um and and don't get me wrong he is the best UFC fighter of all time but we don that much about, you say you like demons.
I think he's got five failed drug tests, not for like Coke or anything. I think he's tested positive five times for doping.
Yeah. For like PEDs.
And can you imagine if another, like the greatest of all time in any other sport, had five positive steroid tests? Yeah. We would probably be like, fuck that guy.
We should not count any of these. But I think in UFC, you kind of take into account that a lot of the other sport had five positive steroid tests yeah we would probably be like fuck that guy we should not count these but i think in ufc you you kind of take into account that a lot of the other guys are probably doping too yeah they just get away with it so john jones greatest fighter of all time maybe worst steroid user of all time and also i mean let's be honest not not the best guy because there's some things on his rap sheet that are very bad yeah so but he is yeah he came back two minutes over.
Why can't he fight Francis Ngannou? Because he's not in the UFC anymore. Why? Because Dana White called off negotiations with Francis Ngannou.
So, Francis Ngannou. They should start negotiations.
Yeah, no, it's a very interesting, like, setup now that the UFC has, because if you were wanting to do tinfoil hat, the UFC wanted Jon Jones to win last night because Surreal Gain would have won the belt even though he lost to Francis Nagano. So it would have been like a Mickey Mouse belt.
The guy who won the belt in the octagon is not in the UFC and someone else owns the belt. Now at least there's a distance between it where Jon Jones has it.
They've never fought. Dana said never.
He said never on Friday, I believe. I also saw resurface cliffs where he said the same thing about Jones.
Yes. Well, that's the best thing is like in the fight game.
It's like the fight game and college football coaches. If they say something, they can change their mind within a week.
Yeah. The thing about Dana White saying never say never, but I'm saying never, is that that's in a weird, twisted way, almost better for promoting the eventual fight that would happen.
It's like, wait, he said never and it's happening somehow? Like, Dana White knows how to sell a fucking fight. Yes.
And so he could just reverse course on that. Who knows what Nagano was asking for? Also, there's rumors that Nagano wants to just get into boxing.
Yeah, so that was the big sticking point. They were negotiating for a while.
There was a price on him fighting Jon Jones. I think it was like $8 million.
But his main sticking point was, if I sign with the UFC, I can't do anything outside the UFC. I want to potentially box.
Because if he was a good boxer, boxers get paid way more than $8 million. If he was going to fight Tyson Fury, right? I don't know how that would work.
I don't know if they'd just let him fast forward and fight him, but there's a lot of money in boxing for the top-level guys, and so he was like, yeah, I don't want to do this because they won't let me do other things. So I hope it happens.
I think everyone wants it to happen. It did look like they were setting Stipe Miocic up for it.
Like they want Stipe to do the fight. Yeah.
And then Stipe, when they, when they interviewed him, Stipe was like, uh, you could tell he was like a little afraid to fight John Jones. He didn't seem to super confident after the fight was over.
He's a bad dude. He's a bad dude.
John, I would not personally, I'm going to say this right now. Never say never.
I will never fight John Jones in the UFC.

I won't say that.

And I'll double.

If Dana White wants to pay me $300 million, I'll get choked out by him.

Wait, wait.

But he would just knock you the fuck.

He wouldn't go for this.

No, I would lay down.

And be able to take my back.

I'd take my back.

Yeah, like here's my back.

Take it.

Just choke me out. I'll tap.
I wonder if I could just go in and just tap immediately yeah just tap on my own arm the strategy to beating john jones is to lay down on the ground and hope that he hits you with an illegal shot yeah and then he loses the fight on a technicality then you get the belt you get the belt what if you had to go longer than a minute and a half no i think i think. He would just beat my concussed brain as I'm flopping like a dead fish.
I've long said that I will do anything, literally anything, for $100 million. And I think I would fight Jon Jones for $100 million.
I don't think you could even run around. He would just catch you.
Billy, you're saying absolutely because you think that you would stand a chance against him Okay Can I ask a side question Does Riff Raff want to fight you Chuck Borden I heard a rumor at Ruff and Rowdy On Friday night that Riff Raff wants to Call out Billy Look I don't know Riff Raff also Huge steroid user and has been boxing For the past three years And that's like the only thing he does Alright, so you're afraid of Riff Raff Alright, so Billy's ducking You're ducking Riff Raff right now I podcast six days a week I'm not like have a professional trainer who trains me He releases music, he makes bangers Anyway, but what I wanted to say is Chael Sonnen. Let's just put a bow on it.
You are ducking riffraff. Whatever.
Chael Sonnen said that Francis Ngannou, one of the reasons why they're not re-signing him. He actually said this on Robbie Fox's podcast, My Mom's Basement.
He said that he wasn't a draw. Like the one that he headlined, the UFC card he headlined, only did like 30 yeah I mean this would be a draw because Jon Jones but no yeah he but they're like it's not worth paying for it because Jon Jones is the draw like in Ghanu isn't a big draw apparently so I mean that's pretty crazy and also Jon Jones put on 45 pounds for this fight to get up to the heavyweight level and he's been the reason he hasn't fought is because he wanted to get out of the USADA protocol and do what McGregor's doing right now and just juice up.
Yeah. So, I mean, that shouldn't be legal.
Yeah, Francis Ngannou did tweet at Jon Jones after saying, good job, Johnny Boyce, sincerely the heavyweight king. So if you're a tinfoil hat guy, this is all working out perfectly for a mega, mega fight.
Yeah, actually, thinking about what Dana White said about Nagano,

teeing it up for a rematch and saying, yeah, Nagano's going to fight Jon Jones if he wins,

that's not nearly as much buzz as if Dana White physically removes Nagano from the blacklist.

It's like, okay, he can fight again.

That was a lengthy two-week suspension I gave him.

I hope you learned his lesson.

Yes.

Also, you see the Dreykus knockout against Brunson? That was brutal. Yes.
That was just scary. It was great.
I mean, when UFC hits and it's just a great card and there's big names and everything, it's awesome to watch. What were you going to say, Hank? Jake Gyllenhaal was there looking jacked.
Yeah, I was going to say. Jack, do you think he's on the juice? Well, no.
Congrats to Jake Gyllenhaal. He won his fight.
Yeah. So they're taping the remake of Roadhouse, which is an abomination because Roadhouse is basically the perfect movie.
So he got in the ring in between some fights and taped some scenes of him winning, and the ref pulled him off, and then he kept on hitting him. Yeah.
You can read between the lines about what that scene's going to be. It didn't really make me want to see the movie.
So I'm guessing that what happens is at the start of the fight, or at the start of the movie, it's Dalton or whoever is playing Dalton in Roadhouse, Jake Gyllenhaal, and he's a UFC fighter and he gets kicked out of UFC for being too violent. Then he goes on to be a bouncer of a bar.
In Florida, I think is what it is. In Florida, and then works his way back into UFC and eventually kicks somebody's ass.
That's what I'm guessing. I've never seen Roadhouse.
Oh, dude, you gotta see it. We're gonna start doing Man Movie Fridays in the summer.
Pain don't hurt. Roadhouse, or Dalton, philosophy major at NYU.
Mm-hmm. And one of the greatest lines of all time when what's the bad guy's name I can't remember

when he got right behind him

he goes I used to fuck guys like you in prison

it's like wait what

yeah good luck coming back from that one

somebody asked me on Twitter after the fight

because I said that John Jones was

an inspiration to cocaine users everywhere

who would be your goats

your Mount Rushmore of cocaine athletes

Lawrence Taylor

definitely

Maradona

Thank you. an inspiration to cocaine users everywhere.
Yeah. Who would be your goats, your Mount Rushmore of cocaine athletes?

Lawrence Taylor.

Lawrence Taylor, definitely.

Yeah.

Maradona.

Maradona's on there. David Bowie.

Although he became a Nazi

when he was deep in coke.

As one does.

Athlete.

Yeah, I know,

but in terms of just great careers.

He was kind of an athlete in a way.

Oh, he fucked Mick Jagger, right?

Yeah, he did.

I read a story once

that David Bowie,

for like two years of his life,

all he ate was hot peppers

is He was kind of an athlete in a way. Oh, he fucked Mick Jagger, right? Yeah, he did.
I read a story once that David Bowie, for like two years of his life, all he ate was hot peppers and milk because he was so addicted to cocaine. And so they would just feed him milk, like whole milk, because he was like a baby.
The milk was to take away the sting and the hot peppers. Yeah, and the milk was also just to keep him alive.
Jesus, that's weird. I would put the entire 1980, was it the 86 Mets? Yeah, we had Dale Strawberry, Doc, for sure.
The entire 86 Mets are up there. Michael Irvin.
Michael Irvin, good call. Rob Ford.
You remember when he dropped back to throw that dime? Athlete. Total athlete.
No, I was going to say something, but I'm not going to say it. Okay.
Yeah, and I think you know what I was going to say. I have a pretty good idea.
Yeah, all right. So that was good by us.
That's growth by us. Yeah.
All right, let's take a break and we'll do, we got some more stuff to talk about. We got to talk about some combine stuff and then we'll do who's back of the week.
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That thing was so small. I agree.
It was. We all agree, right? I've got three major issues with the Instagram Live.
One was that his gun was half the size of a Derringer. It was so small.
You can't be flexing.ing that's not cool you can't flex a tiny gun oh like that you got to have like a desert eagle you have to have something sick that you're showing off that's issue number one yeah like it would be a a big like was it worth it if it was a like a huge awesome gun if you had an uzi i'm not i'm not a gun guy but i still be like okay maybe you could talk to him. That was 100% not worth it.

It'd be cooler if he was flexing a taser or a big knife.

That would have been sicker.

Or one of those gel shooters we had in the office.

Yeah, or a Nerf gun even.

Actually, somebody should do that.

Just flex it. That sounds like something Giannis would do.

Remake that video, except you get a sick Nerf gun.

And everyone would be like, Giannis is the best.

And he's so funny.

We love him.

He's the man.

So issue number one was the tiny little gun. This is a cute cute little guy uh issue number two is that he was streaming himself live yeah if you're a professional athlete you should just never go live anywhere there's no reason you're live all the time for your job it's called playing the sport there's no need to go live too much bad shit can happen when you go live issue number three is paul pierce yes issue number three was he had his shirt off and nobody else had their shirt off at the strip club I don't know if Jaws confused about what happens at a strip club but traditionally you don't go to a strip club to take your shirt off that's something that usually happens around you with others okay only counterpoint on that if I had a sick body and was as rich as john morant and had awesome chains i spent a lot of money on i'd probably take my shirt off a lot i would i i would not i would just never wear a shirt yeah so just be yeah just be shirtless all the time right but it's it's it's definitely so he's taking two games away i believe um to work on his posting live selfies of gun addiction.
He deleted his Instagram. He deleted his Twitter.
What are you going to say, Billy? What did he do wrong? So it's been a long list of things. So it's funny because everyone, not funny, but there's been a lot of John Morant is surrounding himself with the wrong people talk.
And it's really just John Morant seems like he's the wrong person right now. He's losing it.
He, so he had an incident at the mall where I think his mom got in an argument with someone and then he showed up with his friends and pushed a mall security officer. He had an incident at his house where he allegedly punched a 17 year old in the face multiple times.
And then also allegedly came out with a gun in his waistband being like, not like putting his hand on it, being like, you know, but again, he might've also just been shirtless. And that's why you can see the gun.
He was maybe not trying to display the gun. He had an incident where his former, I think high school teammate, Devante Pack, one of his best friends, basically went on the court in the Pacers game.
And then afterwards, the Pacers alleged that someone shined a laser that was attached to a gun in the Pacers bus. Like they basically had like a, like a, we're coming for you after this game.
And then this. So it's been, it's one of those things where there's a lot of like small incidents where he hasn't gotten any trouble but if you're a fan of john moran if you're a fan of the grizzlies fan of the nba it definitely is like something's got to change if you have because we're going down a bad path if there's three headlines that coming out about you in the span of maybe a month and a half two months that all involve an incident with a gun.
Yeah. Might be time to just maybe step away from the gun life for just a little bit.
And it's sad because Ja, if you look at his contract, he stands to make $300 million. So much money.
At the end of the season. All Ja has to do is to just not get arrested for three months.
Right. That's it.
Three months and you get $300 million.

Now, if I had as much money as John Morant has right now

and I was his age, I'd probably fuck around a lot.

Might get in some trouble.

But he just, John Morant just needs to lock himself in a room.

You can even take the rest of the year off.

Right.

I know that the Grizzlies probably would not appreciate that.

But you have three months until you become a $300 millionaire. That's grandkids, grandkids, grandkids.
Yes. Grandkids money.
Yes. And I brought up the line that a lot of people have been using.
It's like he's surrounding himself with the wrong people. I think that's a lazy take.
Like John Morant is, I would imagine, the alpha of his friend group. He is the guy who has all this talent, who has all these things to lose.

No one else around him has all these things.

Like he,

he can dictate his surroundings.

This is it.

We shouldn't be like,

Oh man,

pick better friends.

Like John Morant,

you have to pick better choices.

Yeah.

And I don't want to sound preachy because I do love watching him play

basketball and he's very young or not.

You know,

he's,

he's not like 18,

but he is, he's got a lot of career left. like there's a lot of time for him to write whatever's going on right now and have it be a very small blip on his career being like oh yeah remember that year that john rant had like three gun incidents yeah that's crazy he went to the hall of fame and won a bunch of titles and mvps and everything like that is very much on the table and what i'm hoping happens but, not good.
So to answer your question, Billy, I don't know about what the state gun laws are in Colorado. That's where he was Denver.
Right. But I know I know in Texas, a lot of bars have this sign up that say if like 51 percent of your revenue comes from alcohol, then you're not it's a felony to carry a gun in that establishment.
So different states have different rules about like where you can bring guns. I don't know what the rules are in Denver.
It might be against the law there. It might not be.
I don't know. I'm ignorant about that.
But I do know that if I'm... I'll even take it back.
If I'm John Morant, just don't go live on Instagram with your gun. You also might have brought it on the team plane, which is something they're looking into, which would be a much bigger problem.
Colorado, you don't need a permit to carry a handgun. Okay.
Okay. Well, you definitely don't need a permit to carry whatever the fuck that pea shooter was.
It's a strip club gun. Yeah.
They give it to you when you walk in. Yeah.
Do you think the gun was sticky? He had just retrieved it from somewhere? Yeah. Imagine if it was a fake gun to take tequila shots out of.
Yeah. And we all just got confused.
That's what he should do. He should be like either, yeah,

either it's a sex toy or it's just like a novelty gun.

Yeah.

But yeah, John Moran's got a,

I mean, good first move by deleting Twitter and Instagram.

That feels like a smart move.

And then someone, maybe Plaxico Burris needs to sit him down

and be like, hey dude, you got a lot of money.

And this is dumb.

Yeah, it's very dumb.

Like he has a lot of money, but he stands to make a lot of money, and this is dumb. Yeah, it's very dumb.
Like, he has a lot of money, but he stands to make a lot of money.

Forget the money.

He's, like, one of the most talented guys in the NBA.

Like, that's really what's at stake here is, like,

your talent could be wasted if things go bad and you're not in the league.

Yeah.

So figure it out, dude.

Yeah.

Figure it out, John Morant.

Yeah, Billy?

Last thing on the show. I'm standing behind John Morant through these difficult times, by the way.
I just want that clear. Okay.
He was a recurring guest. I think he's got to figure some things out.
I'm not going easy on him, but I am hoping for a redemption arc, and I'm not going to write him off forever. You think his dad's giving him that tough love? Because he said that his dad was his biggest hater.
His dad should just make fun of the size of that little tying gun yeah i know we joke about that but reply reply guy said that like you want to carry a small gun in a strip club because if the gun's too big when you're getting like lap like this was on twitter he was like it might go off you might shoot the stripper like yeah so they're like that was his strip club yeah so it's like it's a strip that's someone that's also that's also a problem because if you have a strip club. That's also a problem, because if you have a strip club gun, that means you have a gun for everything.
You don't just have a strip club gun. Yeah.
That's not just like, oh, I own one gun, it's my strip club gun, I only bring it to strip clubs. Car on the way to the airport gun that you have.
Yeah, you have your practice gun. You think Ja Morant.
You have your game gun. You have your Saturday night ABC special game gun.
You think Ja carries a gun or has carried a gun in his warm-ups during pregame shoot-around?

I don't know about that.

I mean, that would really be putting Adam Silver to the test.

It really would.

But yeah, Ja Morant.

There was a moment on Saturday, I want to say, where Ja Morant and Jackson Mahomes were both trending.

And you're like, okay, so this is going to be one of those days.

Welcome back to the internet.

Yeah. I hope Ja figures it out, and I hope that he, this is- Will you stand behind him? I'm completely standing behind Ja.
I think he's got some things that he needs to work out. Yeah.
But I think that it's something that can be very easily corrected. Correct.
And that's just don't, maybe don't carry guns everywhere, Ja. We're not going to be the old men who's like, yell clouds, being like, Ja Morant, kick him out of the league.
Yeah, I mean, I literally had an illegal gun here in New York City for like four years after the Houston Super Bowl that I finally came to my senses and took to the police station. Yeah, so Ja, listen to PFT.
It's not a joke, except for when PFT did it, because it was a joke. Yeah, it was a bit.
So, Ja, maybe you just say it was a bit that you were doing. Start a podcast.
And start a podcast. And yeah podcast and uh yeah listen i've been in your shoes ja morant i know what it's like to be you right now and my best advice would be to just uh put it in a backpack and take it to a police station and get a 200 voucher for it yes yes he needs a gun guy no no he needs a gun guy no that's the wrong direction no but but no because if you have a gun guy that means you eventually you're going to be like, hand me that gun.
He needs a guy to rebound for him when he goes to the gym. Yeah.
What? He needs a guy to rebound for him. Yeah, but...
Not a gun guy. Right, not a gun guy.
Exactly. He's a trainer, personal chef, mental health coach, not a gun guy.
Any of those could be a gun guy. No, but if you have a gun guy, the same problem happens because the gun guy always has multiple guns yeah you're like passing one of those yeah get let me let me hold that one yeah right cool yeah ja moran should actually just say that he is he's going into therapy for a gun addiction yeah he's addicted to having a gun holding a gun not using a gun yeah just holding it maybe he gets anxiety without it yeah it's like that's actually a thing it's like an emotional support gun yeah it's like a pa.
I mean, Paul Pierce kind of said the same thing. He's like, I got stabbed and I carried a gun around for a while after.
Yeah. Well, that kind of makes sense.
John Moran has not been stabbed. No.
I also understand the need for people like that are that young and that rich to have a gun to protect themselves because they are a target. You're a mark.
Yeah. They're a target and people that you used to be friends with a long time ago and might not be friends with anymore, they might have it in for you.
So I get it. I'm just saying for Ja, for the next three months, just go cold turkey off guns.
No guns. No guns.
You got this. Actually, you might need a gun in Memphis.
No. Really, again, no guns.
Billy sounds like he's auditioning to be one of Ja Morant's friends where he can just explain away everything. Hey, John, I know that you told all your friends no guns, but I know you better than they know you.
I got you. I got you.
By the way, the incident where he punched a 17-year-old kid on his basketball court, John Morant said that he was like, the police officer asked who threw the first punch. the first punch he's like well i did but he threw the ball and hit me in the head so i count that as the first punch that is assault assault okay yeah this is again also 17 year old kid's not a kid no i agree i agree if he's playing basketball in the face but i think it was like oh punched a little kid.
I think one punch in the face can happen on a basketball court. What was said is that there were multiple punches even when he was down and then going into your house to get your gun.
That feels, that's too much. I agree.
That's not like, hey, let's just, hey, guys, let's cool out and like check up who's ball. I need to see the stats on this 17-year-old.
Like height, weight, that's important in this story. He's technically a minor, so they never released his name.
But he was invited to a basketball game where he was playing defense against John Morant. So I guarantee he's a good basketball player.
Probably a big guy. Probably a guy who's probably going to be playing Division I basketball.
Again, you should not hit a 17-year-old. Right.
Usually. Unless that 17-year-old threw a ball at your head.

If it was one of those fouls where you're going up

and he pushes you in the back,

then I think it's allowed.

Or undercuts you.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's a ball throw.

Yeah, it tries to get up underneath your feet

when you're shooting a three.

That's how people get hurt.

Or if he grabs your knee and breaks the code.

All right, now we're doing it.

Now we're explaining away John Moran. No, you can't break the't break have you played basketball with a high schooler recently i have not i'll be honest they like wear airpods while playing in the game it's the most annoying thing ever how many high schoolers is one high schooler no this is like multiple and like you're trying to yell out pics and stuff and they have an airpod in while they're playing playing music and you're like yeah it's like they think they're like i you know what that is that i my initial like reaction should be fuck that kid basketball's not enough and then i just think of like when i'm watching a movie and i'm just staring at my phone it's like yeah yeah the reality is you need multiple things going on that made me feel old as hell that like young kids were doing something that I just felt so like foreign to me.
If we were in high school, I like to hate on those people, but I would definitely be wearing an ear pod or an earbud while I was playing. They didn't even have headphones when you guys were in high school.
Speaking of ear pods, air pods, Hank tried to poor shame me when we went to Indy because I have cord I was just surprised The microphone is way better When you're calling people Doing radio hits And also people don't bother you when they see the cord And you don't lose them I was on a streak where I lost them I lost like four pairs in about three months It done I'm on such a hot streak with my current earbuds. Knock on wood.
Knock on wood. Knock on wood.
I've had him for like nine months. Knock on wood.
This is the longest I've ever kept anything in my life. So, Hank, should we talk about Anthony Richardson? Yeah, I'm kind of offended that this wasn't the start of the show, a once-in-a-generation talent.
Showed out. Showed out.
His stats were underpriced than Cam Newton's. Yeah, I don't know how you can be a i don't know how you can be a gm and not risk everything to get him get number one uh broke the record for verticals for quarterbacks in the combine so uh pretty crazy because he broke the record uh the previous eight guys josh portis uh was second uh he played at california university of penn Pennsylvania.
I didn't know that existed. Oh, yeah.
Penn West. Brad Smith.
So these are some Hall of Famers that he beat out. RG3, Tim Tebow, Nick Marshall, Tyrod Taylor, and Byron Bennett.
So you can – illustrious grouping he's in. I'll say this.
If you completely ignore all the times that he's played football,

he's the can't-miss prospect.

It is.

Just from a measurement standpoint.

I will say that whenever there's crazy combine stats,

I do like to just look at them all and be like,

holy fuck, this guy.

I mean, Anthony Richardson is a dude.

Who is the guy from?

Once-in-a-generation talent.

Who is the guy from Georgia?

I think he's from Georgia.

The defensive lineman that ran like a 4-3-9. Yeah.
Fuck that. Yeah.
Crazy. Fuck that.
We also had a 4-2-7 from DJ Turner from Michigan, which is great. I know that the times have been getting lower and lower, but it's still nuts whenever anyone runs.
I always like my eyes pop out whenever anyone runs under a 4-4. I'm like, holy shit.
Or when a fat guy breaks five. That still blows my mind.
Yes. There was also some news from, I think, Rappaport tweeted out, Florida offensive tackle Richard Gorage came into the combine healthy but woke up with a swollen ankle after a pain tolerance test created an injury, sources say.
He'd been planning to do all drills, but now he won't be able to thanks to the situation caused during his medical exams. A team gave him a pain tolerance test? Ooh.
At first when I read that, I was like, that seems insane to do that. But then I thought about it, and I was like, actually, yeah, you get hurt a lot in the NFL.
I want to know what this pain tolerance test was. Like, are they poking a needle? I was going to.
Okay. This I didn't say this.
So it's not mean for what I'm about to say. I was going to say they could have just played Billy's three hour podcast, solo podcast, pain tolerance.
That's true. Yeah, it would be a good pain.
That's against the Geneva Convention. If you are, if you are, that would be an all time pain.
I like I just just sit him down and be like, all right all right here here's some headphones and just walk out of the room be like what the fuck am i listening to for for pain tolerance you do have to know if they're going to be mentally prepared to play on the falcons yes that would be good to know going into like how much shit can you eat okay yeah the jets can take you now i i feel like pain tolerance test is is pretty straightforward It's like shut your finger in a car door, bang your shin on a low coffee table. Step on a Lego.
Step on a Lego. These are all real pain tolerance tests that we go through.
I just imagine like Mark Davis in the Raiders draft room. They've just got a scene from Jackass where they have a hotel room and it's just covered in mousetraps.
And in order for him to walk over and shake your hand he has to get past all yes yes it's just a yeah we just play jackass for a day yeah yeah i mean pain tolerance could also just be max out on squat and then just sit on a toilet and you have to wipe like a hundred times don't cry or wait are you standard no i sit oh it's it's wipe no i'm saying but like you, when your legs are just in, you're just like so sore. Yeah.
Yeah. Just something like that.
Pain tolerance. It does make sense, but it sucks that this guy's not going to be able to work out because some team pushed him too far.
Pain tolerance. Actually, that might be on him.
He should have tapped. Yeah.
You got to tap. That's on.
Taps are allowed at any time. Yes.
Yeah. And then Bryce Young got measured.
So Bryce Young, 5'10 and a quarter 204 So whatever he did It worked to get above 200 You just couldn't have a 1 at the start of that number It was basically His agent and nutritionist were like If we can just get to the exact same Height and weight as Kyler Murray People will just say Oh he's Kyler Murray even though we watched him play and he did not play at 204 pounds. No, and they're also very different quarterbacks in how they play the game.
But I actually ran the BMI on Bryce Young for his exact height and weight. 29.3.
He's borderline obese. Yeah.
He's too fat to draft. This guy's a tub of shit.
How pumped must he have been when he got off that scale he's like oh i don't have to eat a hundred like 10 000 calories a day oh that's like three gallons of water i chugged before i got on here he probably sprinted to the bathroom yeah just ran to go take a piss they were probably feeding him like force feeding him like a goose that you're trying to turn into foie gras yeah this way-in. Just drink all the water, probably eat dessert for breakfast.
Sounds like my life. Yeah, I would be really good at loading up for the combine.
I would. This would be my pre-combine preparation would be where I would truly excel to try to gain.
If they gave you two weeks, how much weight do you think you could put on it? Because I think I can i think i could put on 25 pounds in two weeks on 30 plus no problem yeah no problem i do today i went to i took my kids to the ice cream museum at 10 a.m and we got like through the first door and they started handing us free ice cream and i was like shit why did i do 10 a.m for the ice cream museum there's an ice it's awesome. The history of ice cream.
It sounds like something that a parent would make up to their kids. Like, hey, if you get straight A's, we're going to the ice cream museum.
You guys should check it out. It actually, like, it ruled.
But yeah. No disrespect, but how fat.
You just dragged your kids along with you? No. There was a lot of kid-friendly shit.
There was a whole pool of sprinkles. How they got to jump in.
How fat were the other parents that were there that were taking their kids to the ice cream museum? No, everyone was fine. Everyone was fine.
Because I'm a fan of a lot of things, but I don't know that I go to museums for them. No, the ice cream museum.
I'll have some people backing me up. Listen, there was one guy, one dad.
I always have these moments when i'm out at these things and one dad was like hey man like just getting through it love your work and i was like thanks bro that's nice yeah we used to live in the dream we used to live in the dream at the ice cream museum at 10 a.m we used to work right next door to the museum of sex in in uh hq2 yeah but the even being a horny guy the fact that the word museum was on there, it kept me away from it. Yeah.
I had four cups. It was all free after you got, I mean, the tickets were expensive, but then it was free.
It's actually genius. All inclusive.
Yeah. Tickets are interactive.
It was very interactive. Good.
It was extremely interactive. History of ice cream.

I would go to a case. I know facts you guys don't fucking know anymore.

I would go to a queso museum.

When was it invented?

History of ice cream?

Oh, no, ice cream?

It was like, I didn't read any of this shit.

It was like 600 or something.

That's like the one thing that you should learn at the ice cream museum.

The Carvel guy invented soft serve.

Okay.

What's the most ice cream anybody's ever eaten?

Probably me at the History of Ice Cream Museum because I wasn't four.

Yeah.

I lied about that.

It was a bathroom situation.

How many rooms were there?

There was a shitload of rooms.

So that's how much ice cream.

It was fun.

You guys should go.

Don't hate it.

I'm not hating it.

It's just very funny that you're like, I took my kids to the Ice Cream Museum at 10 a.m. Yeah, no, that part was a mistake.
But it's when it opened. So I was like, fuck it.
Let's go. But yeah, Bryce Young should go to the ice cream museum.
Keeps that 204 on. I've always argued ice cream should be a breakfast staple.
Agreed. It's kind of like any time.
It's way better than these sugary cereals. And it's got way more protein and stuff like milk it's healthy i you ever eat like the the fake low carb ice cream no it's gross it's really gross i halo top i i had an idea a couple years ago yeah i bet you do jake makes you not feel guilty yeah shut up but i had an idea a couple years ago that was just ice cream it was just to sell like healthy ice cream and then it was just full ice cream but nobody would ever know because you wouldn't list that on the nutrition.
You'd be like, no, it's totally healthy, low sugar, but just make it full-blown absolute custard that you're selling. But then somebody told me that Seinfeld invented that.
It was a Seinfeld episode, yeah. We all were gaining weights, weight with the frozen yogurt.
Yeah. But yeah, I'm giving stamp of approval.
History of Ice Cream Museum. Okay, anything else that we missed this weekend? Yeah, the Suns beat the Mavs.
Oh, yeah. And then Luka at the end, this is an all-time quote from Luka Doncic.
He was mad that Kevin Durant waited until the last second to talk trash to him. Yeah.
Once the Suns took the lead, which is, you typically do talk trash when you have it. I guess his thing was like, it takes a real man to talk shit when you're losing.
Yeah. Which, I guess, fair point.
Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, why wouldn't you? They took the lead and he missed, Luka missed an easy layup.
Yeah. Talk some shit.
But, I mean, I don't think, most people don't talk shit when they're losing. Pat bev probably probably talks more yeah luca and uh devin booker almost kissed it was uh it was a very odd uh standoff where they both were smiling uh but luca does have it like i know kevin durant's now on the suns but he did bounce him from the playoffs last year yeah so he does kind of have that over them i'm still I'm all in on these Suns.
I am. I am.
Chris Paul, getting that chip this year. Chris Paul had a real insult tweet.
Hold on. Let me see if I can find it about where the Suns are at as a team.
Hold on. So after the game, yeah, here it is.
It's from Bobby Marks, who I think works for espn very smart guy nba front office uh like insider he said fourth quarter uh for chris paul and ish wainwright 14 points four for six from three as great as kevin durant and devin booker are this team stink sinks or swims based on the rest of the roster so chris paul and ish wainwright are now the same okay same guy yeah it's tough you can't do it all by yourself sometimes sometimes you need ish it's also just a very funny thing to say because like yeah uh breaking news your two best players can't score all the points but they can try yeah and and they sometimes almost can like the game was close because tim hardaway went nuclear from three at the beginning of the game well and ish in the fourth quarter fourth quarter. Well, no, I'm saying on the Mavs side.
So every team has this. Yeah.
We need the other guys to score a little. You have other players on the team that contribute for sure.
Yeah. I don't see a way that Chris Paul loses this year.
I don't see it. Well, so that was going to be my who's back, is the NBA just doing a really good job with these marquee matchups now that we're out of football season? Because Max, Saturday night, the Sixers.
Hank, would you like to say thank you? Oh, no. Why? The Sixers beat the Bucs.
Oh, yeah. And the Bucs and the Celtics are fighting for the one seed.
And it was a great comeback. James Harden.
I think James Harden. He had 38.
38, yeah. You don't want to say thanks? No.
At all? No. Either way, these marquee matchups, like I watched that whole game, it was awesome.
Same. So, good job by the NBA.
Okay. You're losing to the Knicks right now.
I know. Okay.
PFT, I'm sorry to say, James Madison has been eliminated. Oh.
Fuck hell. All right, the 30-year drought continues.
South Alabama, the eighth seed, is going to move on to the championship. It's bullshit that their initials are USA and the crowd chants USA for them.
You can't root against that. 75-66 Jaguars.
Tough. Tough break.
Always next year for the Dukes. No pizza party, though.
So I save a couple thousand bucks. Can I say something real quick? I bet on South Alabama because you bet on Purdue.
Okay, whatever. It was a revenge bet for me.
All right, whatever. I support your bets.
I didn't say it until after. Yeah.
But you did bet on Purdue when Wisconsin had to win that game. I also bet on the Eagles.
They had to win that game. I also bet on the Eagles.
No, you didn't, Hank. Shut up.
You didn't. No, you didn't.
I did. Yeah, Hank put $3.
$3. $3 future.
Yeah. I did want James Madison.
Although you said, what if we just play in the NIT? Wisconsin versus James Madison. So I think that, Jame, you would have had to win this game and then probably play a great game in the finals and lose to even be considered for that.
That's bullshit. The NIT.
What about CBI? We could meet in the CBI. That would actually be very fun.
We're losing to Minnesota right now. There could be CBI all over.
You're getting into the NIT. There's a rule that if you're a mid-major one seed and you get balanced, you're an auto bid to the NIT.
So Southern Miss, they're taking that from us. They're going to be in the NIT.
That's a bad rule. Damn, that is a bad rule.
Let the kids play it out on the court. So CBI, CIT.
Wisconsin might not even make the CBI. That'd be great if we played in the cbi what a game i think i love the cbi i bet the cbi all the time was that the one that the trophy used to be a pineapple i can't remember i don't that might have been the other one they're like jv cbi i think the cbi and the cit are the two tournaments where i i can confidently say i've bet on almost every game and i think i've watched none of them.
So I don't have any memories of watching a CBI game. Betting on them, yes.
Updating a score app, yes. CBI and CIT, shout out.
The golden pineapple. There it is.
The golden pineapple. Wait, that might be a rivalry trophy in college football.
There was a pineapple.

There was a pineapple trophy.

Trust me on that one.

I trust you.

Okay.

I trust your memory.

Bonk.

Fuck yeah.

Why?

Isn't that a bonk?

Yeah, that's a bonk.

Why?

Just is.

Hank, did you ever bonk yourself?

Bonks are out of control right now.

What happened?

What did we...

Hank had a bonk off air that he had to do and he forgot. What was it? Fuck.
It's going to kill me now. Was Hank in the morning? In Indy.
God damn it. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Hank's a big fan of the K. Adams show.
Oh, yeah. That's right.
That's right. That's right.
Yeah, you told us all about it. How you watch it all.
You watched literally four hours of it once. Yeah, and then Hank said thatank said that pete made him watch it that's why he was watching for like homework and then i texted pete yeah and i was like pete did you tell hank to watch this this is this is crazy and pete was afraid i was mad at him yeah because you were watching a competitor's live stream and and i was like no hank just told me that you told him to watch it yeah he's like oh no absolutely not that didn't happen just be on the lookout because k adams usually usually retweet like a few dudes being like hey k you look awesome today that's probably hank's burner yeah always like when it's the egg accounts it's just a picture from across a room of k adams eight in the morning like oh you look so hot talking football that's hank yep this is one of the more outrageous twisting of words that i've been a part of and i won't forget it i, you won't? It's not.
What are you going to do? Hank, I eat shit all the time because you guys bogusly claim that I'm horny. Yeah, the pineapple doesn't even make up things that you said and then repeat them as if they're fact.
This is what did you or did you not everything down and watch a K Adams show? Everything we said was a direct quote. Yeah.
No, that's not true, but that's fine. How much? straight did you watch Kay Adams? Zero.
That's a lie. I noticed that when I declared my masturbation strike against Dan Snyder, you did not say I'll match.
I did not. Also, a little cleanup on the Schefter show on Friday.
Hank did Better Commander's future. He did.
That sucks. Yeah.
Great interview, by the way. Great interview.
That sucks. Yeah.

Great interview,

by the way.

Great interview.

That sucked.

Yeah. To win the Super Bowl.

No left hand up.

What if it happens to win the Super Bowl?

Oh,

no.

What if it happens though,

Hank?

And we're geniuses.

And then everything's happy.

If there ever a cash out pops up,

it's it's I'm cashing out.

Well,

you have to be in Indiana.

Oh,

great.

Hey, crazier things. happened it's kind of nice to get one surefire loss out of the way before the season even starts though just flush it out of your system yeah just let's get get one out of here i know i'm probably gonna lose week one anyways let's get one off the board that's not a big deal um okay uh let's do who's back there's making a sandwich and then there's crafting a sandwich and when i want something perfectly crafted i go straight to boar's head for over a century boar's head has been dedicated to crafting premium deli favorites every ingredient is carefully chosen every recipe made with a purpose their oven gold turkey smoke master ham and ever roast chicken are made from premium whole cuts, hand trimmed, and perfectly seasoned.
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I had John Jones, Anthony Richardson, John Morant. But I will say the golf club covers are on sale.
They're very, very nice. They're awesome.
They're blue. Visors also.
Straight drives only with that cover. It's crazy.
First time we've ever sold visors. Sold visors.
I love the visor. PFT tried to say he's never worn a visor before, which is just the most inaccurate statement of all time.
I couldn't remember a time that I've ever worn a visor except for right now. You were born to be a visor guy.
Yeah, you do have visor face. Barstool sports visors.
Yeah. I like it.
I did wear a visor when we were with Marlins man at the All-Star game. You guys pointed that out.
But besides that, I don't think I've ever worn a visor. It looks great.
It's just something that I've never gotten into. Maybe I'm a visor guy.
Although, as my hair gets thinner, I am going to need some top. What if you made a visor that had a full top enclosed on it, though? They definitely have.
Guy Fieri. I think you're wearing that.
It's called a hat. Yeah.
I might be a hat guy. You're a hat guy.
I'm a hat guy. Is that it? That's it.
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He broke some pretty big news stories

And scooped the big J's on a number of them

Schefter poked the bear when he fucked with us on friday's show when he when he tried to pull the wool over our eyes and pretend that lamar jackson was going to the commanders i was perfectly fine leaving leroy on the sidelines and then whenever i get a new dog maybe that dog can learn how to break news too but fuck you shefter you've made a powerful enemy in Leroy. I reactivated his account.
It's the ghost of Leroy. So now my dead dog.
We're making it a mission for my dead dog to beat Schefter on at least two scoops this upcoming free agency season. Don't send him fake scoops.
Do not. That's what I'm saying.
It's a team effort, Hank. We want this to be a success.
And he's good at figuring out fake scoops so he's at leroy insider and the beauty of the show is we have so many people that work in like semi-related capacities to some of these transactions that are going on that we have he's got like a 60 40 track record and putting out good scoops, which is, that's not bad.

It's better than throwing darts at a dartboard.

So Leroy's back.

He's going to try to break the Aaron Rodgers news.

You know what?

He should just break the Aaron Rodgers. We should just say, like, he's coming back to the Packers.

Yeah.

And then it's like 50-50.

That'll be right.

Yeah, why not?

What's the downside?

There's none.

Right.

Because who cares if my dead dog was wrong about something?

Right.

And if the upside is incredible. Is a dead dog scooped the entire NFL on this.
Leroy was fond of a darkness retreat. He was blind.
Hmm. Hmm.
You know what? Leroy is first to report. Adam Schefter is late on this news.
Mm-hmm. Aaron Rodgers is returning to the Green Bay Packers.
Fuck! For the upcoming season. Damn it.
I have to respect it. It's ruined.
I'm sorry. Yeah.
He cares about one thing, the truth. Damn.
All right. Welcome back.
We got to fuck Schefter. Yeah, we're going to fuck him good.
Right in the fucking. I'm going to come.
Right in his eye. I'm going to come.
Yeah. We're also going to play golf with Schefter, which is going to be very funny.
Yeah, further clean up on that interview, I can genuinely say I like Adam Schefter. Oh, I like him a lot.
He's a great guy. Yes.
And I also like the fact that we can give him shit. Between now and next year's Combine, he will do something that I will make fun of him for and drag him for, and he won't take it personal.
No, he won't. That's like the perfect part of my take relationship.
Yep. Okay.
My who's back of the week. It was going to be the NBA because the NBA is very back.
Also, check out this shirt if you're watching on YouTube. What? Stand up.
Stand up. It's my just cover.
It's the mantra for March. Make your free throws attack the rim run the floor close out hit your jumpers and remember they're just kids because remember they are just kids but my who's back of the week is uh travis kelsey and snl i didn't watch but i saw a clip yeah and i laughed i saw a couple clips too i laughed at the all clip I thought it was funny There was a skit that was I think cut because of

I don't know and I laughed. I saw a couple clips too.
I laughed at the all clip. I thought it was funny.
There was a skit that was I think cut because of when they run long because it's a live show. It was guys that you can hire to pick up your girlfriend.
Oh, that didn't make it in the show? That was the clip I saw. Yeah, it was funny.
So the best part of the show didn't even air. It was just girls that want to be picked up and thrown around by their boyfriends if you're dating a small guy, Travis Kelsey will come over to your house and just throw you onto a counter.
Yeah, like I hate the sports on, bro. What are you watching people? But when people were tweeting about Travis Kelsey last night while the UFC had a great card and Max ruined the UCLA season, I was like, what are we doing, guys? There's sports on.

There's sports on.

There's sports on right now.

We can watch this later.

Unless you have seven screens.

Yeah, that's true.

But I'll see the highlights later.

I put SNL on mute, and then I just judge it based on that.

Yes, yes.

Bad show.

Yes.

But, yeah, the clip I saw seemed funny.

Oh, we didn't talk at all about Tom Brady.

Did you see the picture of Tom Brady?

Is he okay, Hank?

I'm worried about Tom Brady. He's going gonna have a weird retirement good come on hank i mean he's trying to step on our toes in in the stand-up comedy arena look like i guess that's kind of our toes it looks like you're getting in the plastic surgery world you're you're next you can't i well it's cool sculpting hang it's not plastic but you can't judge not judging.
I'm worried. He looked gaunt.
Yeah, I like Tom Brady, but he looks like he's sick. I thought he looked great.
How skinny can he get? We'll find out. He's doing a reverse Bryce Young.
Yeah, we'll find out. Let him enjoy retirement.
Okay, is he? Doesn't he? He doesn't know what offensive linemen do. That's true.
Get really skinny. Yeah, that's true.
Good point. That's true.
Billy. My who's back is OJ Simpson.
Oh, great. Uh-oh.
OJ Simpson was kind enough to weigh in on the Alec Murdoch trials who just got in. Is it Murdoch? Murdoch.
It's pronounced like a thousand different ways. It's not just Alec or Alex.
It's Alec Murdoch. And sometimes it's Alec.
Yeah, it's like different accents. It's really weird.
But it's spelled with an X. I know, but they say Alec.
Yeah. Alec murder.
That. I wanted him to cry.
Yeah. I was mad he didn't cry.
He doesn't have a soul. I like guys.
I want my double homicide people to cry. Yeah, his strategy, his defense strategy was like show up looking as ill as possible.
Yeah. So you know how they tell women when they go on trial, like put some, dye your hair as dark as you can and then put on glasses to make you look like a librarian.
With him, he was like, I'm just going to put on a mask and just be as gaunt as possible. He also, the defense strategy of all those other things I did or that you're accusing me of, I did.
I kill my my my uh wife and son yeah however yeah like all the extortion all the the the financial malfeasance all the all those other crimes hand up that was me and you know what the big one you're saying i didn't do that i do have a history of hiring hitmen but in the past i've only used them to kill me yeah right right jesus but yeah what oj say oj was just talking about how uh the judicial system works and basically how he could get off yeah and it was just it was like one of those like remember when nate oates contacted ray lewis yeah it was like what like what the hell this is like a simulation yeah i can't believe the balls on oj to just like to to go online with a video of like here's my advice if you're accused of a double homicide yeah i guess he was not guilty yeah yeah yeah okay good who's back uh jake uh my who's back is boomers football season might be over but we have a best of boomers coming out on YouTube, I believe, on Tuesday. So subscribe.

Check it out.

The behind-the-scenes crew.

Love it.

Great job with that.

Can't wait to see what they picked.

Love it.

Also, who's back is going to the Final Four because Syracuse is in the Final Four for the Barstool Best Bar Tournament.

Oh, six.

Are they going to win an ACC tournament game?

Maybe.

They got Wake.

They beat Wake yesterday.

Now, is Jim Boeheim going to not retire? I don't know. But they're going to Greensboro, and I believe he's made some comments about Greensboro before.
Like what? Just like. He hates it.
Yeah. He hates Greensboro.
Those are the comments? I'm a Greensboro. I don't think he likes the tournament there.
I think Jim Boeheim is at the age where he hates anything that's just not his own home. I'm a Greensboro guy.
I take that as disrespect. My family's from Greensboro.
You better step the fuck off, Jim Boeheim. Is he still talking about how everyone's figured out his zone and how he's still not going to change it? Hey, they've been to the Sweet 16 like three of the last six years.
Oh, no. You're doing what? No, don't do that.
You sound like a Jim Boeheim. I'm an apologist.
Well, here's the thing. The standard is higher at Syracuse.
Yeah, the teams that don't see it all the time, their fate, they work. Yeah, so the ACC tournament.
Yeah, that's probably not the best. Yeah, that would be tough.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think they've won like one or two ACC tournament games in like 10 years. Wait, am I crazy? Didn't they move the ACC tournament away from Greensboro? No, it goes back and forth to Brooklyn.
Itlyn charlotte okay but they're keeping it in the rotation it should always sometimes does brooklyn like the this year yeah it ends in brooklyn it should always be in greensboro it was always in greensboro that's where the acc tournament's played yeah yeah so that's not great but syracuse is in the final four hashtag syracuse bbt okay uh yeah what bar it's just the bar towns this. Oh, the best bar town.
Yeah. Okay.
How many bars did you go to in college? There was a rotation of like three or four. Would you say it's an elite bar town? Of course.
Okay. Good waters? Oh, yeah.
The coldest waters. The coldest waters in the state of New York.
Great waters. Coors Light, water, all the all the time.
Okay. All right.
Thank you, Jake. Let's get to our interview.
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Yep. So I know you guys are in full combine mode of, like, judging the character of a man and, like, their get-off and their determination.
What does that say about us that we're up this? Because, like, you don't understand. This is the – like, we don't get up this early for interviews.
Yeah, yeah. Determination.
I would say that it means a lot to us. I mean, you guys, you know, the dedication for you guys to get up.
You you know i know you guys went to bed at two in the morning so man it is it is really important to us that you guys have done this okay we had a big dinner last night oh you did yeah we're still digesting it right now but you know what it's fine it's you know dealing with a little adversity right now you gotta have some demonstrate some grit and uh and overcome that so yeah i mean waking up at seven o'clock in the morning is as big of a compliment as we can pay to anybody probably yes agreed yeah i think when brandon hit me up i was just like any other time like literally any other time uh so we're here we're ready to go you guys obviously are the talk of the town because number one pick um what let's start here how many smoke screens should we put out right now are we still in smoke screen season or once Schefter says the number one pick is on the table smoke screen season is over it's not over yet okay yeah just we can keep so that thing you're telling about the Raiders before that was true we're not supposed to talk about well no I mean that's smoke screen okay yeah yeah right I'm not sure or is it not right right okay see I'm confused i'm confused no i gotta muddy the waters for us so i like how does it work when you when it gets announced like hey number one picks for sale uh you immediately start getting calls or was this something everyone's been talking and it's fluid the whole time yeah it's been fluid the whole time and it kind of just builds up you know obviously you know when everyone gets together you know in indy that where people start talking. So it's heating up pretty good, and I think we're in a good position.
How many times have you guys watched draft day? Zero. Oh, I like that answer.
You haven't watched draft day? I get that question. I've watched pieces of it, but not the whole thing.
If I were in your position, this is probably why you're successful and I'm not a general manager, is I would just sit down and do all my prep by watching Kevin Koster from Draft Desk. Yeah.
I have heard that you guys are having fun interviews with people. You're bringing them into...
Are you in a hotel room? You got a suite set up? You're playing putt-putt? It's over at Lucas Oil in the suites. The lower suites there.
So who's the best at putt-putt? This guy right here. Ian Cunningham made a bomb yesterday, just so you know.
I mean, it was unbelievable. Now, we certainly practiced, of course.
But we give the players three putts at it, and the coach only gets one. What are you looking for? Do you want a player to be good at putt-putt? Because me personally, I would not want a player to be really good at putt-putt.
It depends. You know, the skill players are pretty good at it.
You know, quarter lot of the receivers surprisingly play golf. All the big guys always pick darts.
They're like, hey man, give me some darts. Then they find out it's double the length.
It's not a normal length. It's a bomb shot.
So when you're watching that, are you looking for someone who gets upset if they miss it? If I were being drafted, I would go in there, I'd miss it, and I'd be like, motherfucker, throw the thing, and maybe be like, I've got to control my emotion more, but, man, do I play with some edge. Like, I would just say that.
You can see some competitiveness in there with those guys for sure, especially when I say, oh, it's tied now, who's going to win? And then we always throw that in there and one more shot. So what are the options that you put out for them? It's putt-putt, darts, and what else? That's it right now.
We only got two. We only do about two minutes.
Twister? Maybe you guys can play Twister with him. I think that's a little odd.
I'm thinking outside the box here. Between the two of you, who has final say? On what? On a draft pick.
Who has final say? Right here. Yeah.
Well, you just had final say on that question. Oh.
On the game? You just gave, you awarded him final say. So, wouldn't you say that you technically have final say? That's true.
You gave him final say, so essentially you do. Okay.
Well, really, the cool thing is we don't really have to worry about that much. Our relationship's awesome.
And, you know, we work through this together because it's that kind of partnership you've got to have. Yeah.
Because we want to be on the same page. And we talk about developing players all the time.
And I think if everyone's on board, you're getting buy-in all the way across the organization. Right.
And the biggest thing with that is that we've spent so many hours and so much time talking about the profile of the player by position. So him and I talk about this all the time.
We see it eye-to-eye in terms of what we want to have at each position, what the traits are, what the makeup of the man is, and that's so important to be on the same page. And we continue to do it.
We were doing it yesterday, about that so it's a it's an important piece to it is there one specific trait that you would say trumps everything is it maybe intelligence speed like is there one that it's it's kind of like a baseline we need this to even go to the next part of this evaluation yeah it's for us it's passion for the game and that's the cool thing about these interviews is kind of once, break the ice with, you know, the darts and the putt-putt and guys sit down and you throw the film on, you see this body language from the guys that it's, like, different. They get to the edge of their seat and they see the play and, like, damn it.
Like, why did you pick this play? Like, you know what play this is? We haven't even hit start yet. Right.
Like, yeah, I got beat on this play. I wish I had that one back.
where there's other guys where it's like you know just kind of there's no emotions there so the guys that get to the edge of the seat they show it you feel it you're like all right jump in the car let's go back to chicago yeah no i like that answer because when you talk to you know we get to talk to a lot of players a lot of successful players and a lot of it is like you love football to a point because you're going to have to eat some shit and do some things and play through some injuries. So can you – has anyone in your evaluation career – you don't have to name names, but has anyone been able to, like, fake loving football in those moments? And then you're like – you get them on the team and you're like, shit.
Well, I would say this. There's no faking when you're playing.
Right.

So we always judge the number.

So we look at the tape.

The tape tells us passion.

The tape tells us love.

And then we can figure out, hey, because if you love football,

you're going to practice that way too.

You can just shut it on and off during game time. So that's how we do all the investigative work that the scouts do

and spend the whole year doing.

And then we're going to do that now and we go to the pro days and all that. So it's always on the tape.
Yeah. Were you guys watching the Colts-Texans game live? I forget if you were playing at that time.
No, we were playing. Yeah, we were playing.
We were in the locker room. Did you go back and watch the end of that game, and you were like, holy shit, that's incredible.
You know what's funny? Like, all that was going on, I kind of got – I was told that that's that's what happened and i've talked about this before i wasn't really in the mood to go there yet because it's still a weird thing right like you don't want to be the first pick it's a it's cool opportunity now disagree the first and second disagree but at the moment disagree listen i'll give you a little tip i'll give you a little tip right there is only one team that can win a super bowl everyone else is a loser except the team that has the first pick we are literally the second best team because we have we're the only one team that can win a Super Bowl. Everyone else is a loser except the team that has the first pick.
We are literally the second best team because we're the only other team that took something away from this season. There's the first pick in the Super Bowl.
That's it. But you've lost to get into that.
No, no, no. We don't worry about how we got there.
I'm just saying once you close the book on this season, only two people are walking away with something in their back pocket. One's got a ring.
One's got the first pick. That's not bad.
Yeah, I'm not buying that one. Listen, you can take my phone number, and whenever you need a spin zone, I'll just whip one right at you.
Yeah, right. I got it.
But, yeah, so that happens, and then you're immediately like, okay, we did not expect this to happen. Because it was like the Bears weren't.
It like like the you kind of figured out the one pick like sometime in december but it wasn't some of these teams you know early on the season it's like they're going to be the one pick like that's what's happening yeah yeah it was crazy how that played out because it wasn't until 12 24 hours after i was watching the play i'm like holy crap yeah it's insane how it happened so How it happened. So yeah, it was awesome.
Caught everybody by surprise. Yeah.
It was a lot, a lot, a lot of fun. All right.
So let's talk about the first pick. I don't know if you brought a pen and paper, but I have some thoughts.
Okay. Let me hear.
I ran a mock draft. Yep.
I'm just going to rip through it real quick and let you know what I'm able to do and see if you can get up to my standard. So first pick was traded to the Texans for pick 2, 12, 33, and two first-rounders next year.
Wow, yeah. Then we traded the two-pick that we got from the Texans to the Seahawks for pick 5, 20, and a first-rounder next year.
Then the five-pick to the Falcons for 8, 44, 44 and a first rounder next year. And then the eight pick to the lions for 18 and a first rounder next year.
So I ended up with six first rounders next year. Can you think like, it's not that hard.
It's not right. Just keep going.
Keep trading. Keep going.
And are you, is there a cap on how many trades you're willing to, there's no cap. Love it.
trading get them all get all the every bit yes just for two years get all the things but is there like i this is very stupid question because we're just dumb fans but um like there is a part of us of fans that like watch and be like maybe just keep getting picks and keep down. There's got to be a point where you're like, hey, we actually need players on the team.
Correct. Yeah, so.
Correct, yeah. Yeah, it's a balance of it, right? Like you want to have opportunity, but at the same time you do, you put the players and the evaluations in these value buckets, right? So you want to be able to play that that game to say i have this many guys at this level that can impact our team in this round all right that's how far we can go back so you you have to put that into the equation as well yeah uh i had a red flag that came up i did my research on you guys much like you look at prospects that are coming in big red flag on on this side of the table for you, Mr.
Poles. Okay, what do you got? Your LinkedIn profile still says that you're on the Kansas City Chiefs.
Oh, no. Are you not all in on the Bears? Oh, no.
Attention to detail matters in this league, Mr. Poles.
Yeah, I don't log into that account much. Well, maybe you should because it's very confusing.
There might be some – another GM might, you know, fire up LinkedIn

and be like, I want to get some deals done.

Did you find me on there, LinkedIn?

I didn't find you on LinkedIn.

I know.

Exactly.

Do you have a profile?

Yeah, yeah.

You're all business.

Yeah.

Yeah, you're a football coach.

This guy's out here.

He's trying to make connections with people.

Yeah.

So you got to get somebody on that.

Details matter in this business.

We got to clean it up.

Yeah.

Yeah, we'll clean it up.

Was there ever a point when you guys got hired, like,

we were like, this is kind of fucked up that we just replaced a Matt and Orion

and we're a Matt and Orion?

No, it was a little bit weird. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, but after that, it was just move on. Again, you've got to understand these are the things that fans think about.
Yeah. We're very dumb.
So these are like, we're like, uh-oh, same names? How does this work? I did read that you'd worked with our friend Rob Ryan for a while. And he's an all-time football guy.
Yes. Just a total legend.
Was he ever – it's hard to envision him as being a mentor to anybody because Rob's just a guy that you hang out with. He's a cool guy.
But what was that relationship between you and him like? Because he's a fascinating guy. Yeah, so I was sitting at my desk at the University of Missouri Missouri I was the D coordinator and assistant head coach at the time working for Gary Pinkle and I got a phone call I picked it up and they said it says hello it didn't say his name right and I'm sitting there talking to this guy and he said hey you know we're looking to interview I want to bring you in we're bringing some college guys and to coach the linebackers and and then about five minutes goes by and I said what what place is this he goes oh the Cleveland Browns I said okay that's cool and uh he goes I said I had to hop into a recruiting meeting here uh you know at eight o'clock and so I hopped in there then I came back and called him back and he said hey we want to interview you for the linebacker job with the Cleveland Browns and I said yeah I'll come in in come in.
So we went in there, and the interview was a marathon interview. It was with him and Eric Mangini, and it went on forever.
I got there at 10. I did not stop interviewing until 2 in the morning.
Holy shit. And then they offered me the job, you know, at 2 in the morning.
And what they did was Rob would teach me defenses all day, and then after dinner I had to, like, teach him back to Eric Mangini. So I just did that.
We did we did it you know took a couple breaks and uh eventually they offered me the job i took it if i was in an interview that lasts that long i would be like i quit i don't even have the job no it was fun because it was ball you know we're talking ball the whole time so it was uh to me it was it was fascinating to learn a different way to do things and how they did stuff and it was cool. Okay, so off that, there's a lot of, not debate, but you hear different coaches talking.
Like Bruce Arians would be like, look, we get in, we do our work, we leave. Like that's what football is.
You don't have to sit here until 3 in the morning and pretend that you're grinding and sleep at the office. What style are you more accustomed to, and how do you run like the coaching staff? Everything everything's going on it could go for you as well uh ryan where it's like what's the mantra is it you guys are working till you know four in the morning or is it just get your job done and you can go enjoy yeah i think that's uh you know you have a schedule and and you know we start work at six and usually end around 10 10 30 you know for the long days you know uh so it too much.
Then you get to sleep, and you're going to have some lack of sleep those first couple days and game plan days, the Mondays, the Tuesdays. And then once you get the players in, then we start to catch back up on sleep.
But I also understand that each guy, and I give them this latitude a little bit, that there's morning guys and there's night guys. Human beings are that you know some guys wake up at 4 a.m some guys like to stay up till midnight you know and that's cool uh just as long as you get your work done okay you didn't give us that latitude just so we're clear no you were 8 a.m yeah we're not morning guys that's what it is yeah really a lot of people would hear 8 a.m and be like that's not morning yes that's normal time 8 a.m is a normal yeah we both so what about you ryan are you there's got to be a point where you're doing scouting you're like guys we've gone over this so many times yeah yeah you don't want to overcook it I mean there's times where you can overanalyze this thing and start to spin um and you're getting too many opinions so there's there's a time to shut it down and you feel comfortable everyone's on the same page because the way we meet we're all It's a collaborative deal, and it truly is.
I mean, we'll go at it if there's two different opinions, which is fun. But then when we make a decision, everyone's on board.
So we grind, we sprint, and then we try to take some time to gas up so that we have clarity when we make decisions. Coach, I have a red flag for you as well.
We'll see if it's a red flag. Well, yeah.
I'm not sure if it's a real fact, but it's a fact that I read on the internet. So I'm pretty sure it's real.
Okay. It says that you have four cats.
Oh, no. Incorrect.
I have two cats. Oh, no.
They were adopted when I was in Dallas. Okay.
Okay. And named after the movie Frozen, Anna and Elsa.
Okay. So it's incorrect.
So the four cats thing is we can dispel that. Don't use your kids to get out of this.
No. If you're a cat guy, you're a cat guy.
Well, I've been around ladies my whole life. So I got two daughters and I got my wife of 27 years.
So they are certainly cat people. And now I am a cat person.
Can we say definitively that we're drawing the line of two cats? Because you get three cats, you might as well have seven.

You're a crazy cat guy at that point. And sometimes you look at the cats and you're like,

I kind of wish this was a dog.

Do you ever do that?

No.

Oh, okay.

I never feel like taking them out for a walk.

No, that's a red flag.

That's a red flag.

Have you ever asked a player, would you identify as a cat or a dog?

Which one do you like more? That's another classic GM question that we've heard from some teams. I don't think they do that anymore.
Really? No. I don't think they do that.
I like how we're talking about, like, you know, the science has moved on. We're done with that.
We've got some advanced stuff now. We're on to, like, ping pong balls at a 747.
Exactly. That kind of stuff.
So, yeah, you guys, you don't have the weird questions. It has everyone.
I would do the weird question just to see if they react. Like, there's no good answer.
Just see what they say. Just one weird question.
You should do it. Yeah, we'll start throwing it in.
Yeah, throw it out there. I'm going to think of a weird question they would do.
Or do you, like, when you shake their hands, are you trying to outgrip them in that initial handshake? Are you monitoring how good their grip is? No, man. You should analyze that because you get the whole spectrum.
Yeah. Because the soft one's concerning.
Yes, dead fish. And then there's guys that try to break their hand.
Like, what are we trying to do? Yeah. What I always look out for is if I do a real nice, firm handshake on somebody, and then they go over the top, and you can tell that they're trying to prove something in the handshake.
I don't like that. I like just solid handshake, eye contact, two seconds, break it off clean, we're moving on.
Have you ever had someone throw you the one that goes straight to the forearm? Oh, yeah. And you feel like you're in a secret society? Yeah.
You're like, what's going on here? Yeah, I just sort of sweat thinking about that situation.

That one is weird. That makes me very uncomfortable.

Go ahead.

Just a real football question, if we could talk a little ball.

How awesome was it when you discovered that Justin Fields is a great quarterback this year?

It was cool to see the maturation during the course of the year,

him learning the new offense, and then midway through kind of takeoff.

We scored a lot of points during that time, and he really took ownership of that. And his leadership just kept growing and growing and growing during the course of the year.
So I'm certainly excited about that. Like I've stated, obviously he has things to work on, like everybody else on the team does, and to grow into the second year.
So we'll see where it goes. Yeah, was there a point that the switch flipped for the coaching staff as well? Because it did feel like going through the season somewhere around – it was like around the Monday Night Football game in New England where it was like, okay, we're going to use him differently and it's starting to be more effective.
Yeah, so we had that mini bye. So we had the Thursday game, the Washington game in Chicago.
What's that? What happened? Who won that game? He's a Commanders fan. I forgot who won that game.
Yeah, but Fields actually almost won that game because, remember, he had that, like, 50-yard run in the fourth quarter with, like, two minutes left. So we kind of won it with cool plays.
Yeah, two decent plays at the end, you know, to win it. Yep.
But, yeah, so then we looked at it. You know, we always do this every single week, but we look at every player, okay, what he can improve on, you know, during the course of that time.
that time and then we say okay what's going to be the plan going forward to improve him and of course we do that unit you know by unit two offense defense and kicking and we just put our heads together you know and said hey you know let's implement some of these things that you know enhances skill set and uh and utilize his skill set and uh that's what we did yeah it was I mean it was it was very exciting to watch him you know grow and and some of the running plays and I agree passing we're going to work on um I had a question for you coach though about your start so Nick Saban coached you at Toledo yeah I mean that's pretty crazy considering what he's done what he's accomplished since then did you have any idea when you're playing for Nick Saban like this guy is different than every other coach i've ever been around yeah uh we so we started off uh with the uh he had a team meeting and he said to us he goes what you're about to go through because we're going to start winter conditioning which is his winning edge program and he said it'll be the hardest thing you ever do right and you know players are looking around and saying okay you know sure sure right and then man you get up for those 6 a.m workouts and he's got 16 stations that he does and by the time we got halfway through it we had I think we had eight scholarship guys quit so and I had shin splints so bad I could barely walk down the stairs because we did it at what's used to be called Centennial Hall it's the basketball arena so we would do like you know-yard laps, and you do mat drills and different things like that. And then we got to spring ball, and one of the comments that he – I stepped up on a trap play, and I hit the guy for a TFL, and I was over – hit him pretty good.
And I look up, and Coach Saban's over top of me, and he said, hey, I was celebrating. He said, don't worry about that play, worry about the next play.
So he was flipping one play at a time type of mentality. But you could certainly see in his demeanor and how he operated things and attention to detail that he was building a champion at that point.
And I've taken that with me all the way through because he is just standing from day one from my perspective as a player, you could see that his leadership skills and his attention to detail was off the charts. I can tell when you're just talking about hitting somebody, I can tell you miss it a little bit.
You miss that contact. I always do.
I'm an aggressive person by nature. I used to love – Well, you're a cat guy though, so not that.
Yeah, we'll see. Oh, that that's good.
You've got to size me up there. You're going to jack him up.
I sized you up when I walked in. I'm not concerned.
You missed that contact, right? Yeah, you know, I loved it. I enjoyed that part of the game, and I like to coach that into the players.
You know, I really appreciate guys that like that part of the game, that style, the physical style of it, and I'm always drawn to those guys um when i'm watching the tape you know with ryan and and it's certainly something fun to you know the to enhance yeah in a player no bowl is known for their best in class award-winning footwear with options across training and lifestyle no bowl has options for everyone exclusively for Barstool listeners. No Bull is offering 30% off your order.

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He's just an absolute game wrecker. Is there anybody that comes to mind on the Bears defense that you just love watching the film and you're clapping it up in the film room? Yeah, Brisker is one of the guys that I love to watch because, you know, obviously a great evaluation by Ryan last year, the playmaking ability, but also the hitting, the striking ability.
You know, in our system, we always say quickness, instincts, and strike. You know, and those guys that have those abilities are very important to us, and that's what we look at for players.
So speaking of playing days, you obviously, Ryan,

you played at Boston College offensive lineman.

Do you find yourself drawing – does your eye draw to the offensive lineman

when you're watching tape?

And are you – like have you found yourself being able to be better at grading

and analyzing offensive linemen because you actually played the position?

Yeah, there's just the little details that you're kind of drawn to

and you see its angles, its field, instinct, you know, part of the game. That stands out a little bit more.
And over my career, obviously, that starts to bleed into other positions, but it's always starting there where you have a good, you feel like you have a good flow. All right, so you need to have a good offensive line.
That's basically what we're, yeah. Okay, So speaking of that in the draft, is it best position available or is it value just like we'll just take anyone? It is value.
And then certain positions are weighted a little bit different to be stacked ahead of positions that aren't. That was smart what you did because we can't let everyone else know.
That's position available. Yeah.
You got to just like, hey, let's just – let's grab anyone. Yep.
We'll do it because you don't want people to be like, oh, they need this so we don't – we can jump in front of them. We're just taking anyone.
Anyone. Anyone.
Any person. Even a quarterback.
See the smoke screen. Yeah.
Smoke screen. Coach, what would happen – We could take a quarterback.
Yeah, it's on the table. If you guys drafted, you know, four quarterbacks in the first six rounds of the draft this year? Let's get fucking nuts.
How would you feel about that? Why not? Let's go crazy. Yeah, right, right.
You sound like you have final say right now. You just final say them on four quarterbacks.
Yeah, let's get fucking nuts. When you're taking these calls and you're obviously hearing from a bunch of teams that are putting together packages, competing, so you can move up, you're evaluating everything, are there different teams and general managers that you see the notification from and you're like, I've got to deal with this guy again? Is there a team that you would prefer to deal the pick to as opposed to other teams? No, no.
And I've got good relationships with most of them. So, yeah, open to talk to anybody.
So would it matter at all if you dealt the pick inside the division? Yeah, that takes a little more to do that for sure. There's a premium on that.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I like that.
Big premium. I like that.
Big premium. Big premium, okay.
Coach, I got a problem. We got to fix your acronyms.
So you have an acronym, HITS. Yeah.
Is that right? I do. So what does it stand for? I don't know.
You tell me. Okay.
Hustle, intensity, takeaways, and taking care of the football, and smart situational football. The T and the S are a lot.
We got to get it to one word. Yeah.
Well, you can do the T, just the ball. Okay.
And then the S can just be smart. Okay.
All right. So there we go.
We figured it out. We simplified.
That was was very, very easy. I mean, you're just getting too wordy.
Well, that's what I was saying. I saw it and I was like, I was saying just do hitting people is the shit.
Hits. I like that.
So that's just very easy right off the... And then what's the other one is the M&M principle, right? Which I like that one.
That's motor and mean. Okay.
Yep. So which one means more? You need the motor or the mean? You need them both.
Which one if you had to pick one? Because that's for a defense alignment. Yeah.
You got to have that. The motor and the mean.
Yeah. The motor, I don't know.
If you had great motor and then you go ahead and strike somebody and you kind of just kind of ooze into it, I mean, what does it really mean then? Yeah. Is it a perfect, like you want 50-50, the exact same motor mean yeah i want them i want them all 100 okay if you have if you have mean but no motor then you're just kind of just an asshole yeah you're just getting penalized you're not mean you're just a fast guy yeah you're like you're a track guy motor and me that's got to be had to to have disposition yeah yeah it's a position and the disposition oh i like that that's a good sign feel free to use it yeah we will we'll steal that one yes uh it's an easy one how do we feel about getting a dome in chicago pro or con i think it's a good opportunity to do a lot that's a a good answer.
Yeah. That's a great answer.
At all times of the year. Yes.
Yes. Because Justin, when we interviewed him, he said, like, it'd be cool to have a dome.
I think a lot of offensive players probably would feel that way. But is there anything about if you're interviewing a guy that's going to be playing in Chicago, do you want him to enjoy cold weather? Yeah, I think it tells you a little bit about his toughness, too.
Yeah. Yeah.
The guys that play in the cold, no sleeves. Were you a no-sleeve guy? No sleeve.
At BC, no sleeves. Were you a no-sleeve guy? No sleeves.
Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I can't do it.
What about free agency? So, like, it's obviously one of the busiest times for you guys right now because not only do you have the number one pick, but you have a lot of cap space. Yeah.
Is there going to be a, like, first day big splash? Are we thinking about making a big splash, letting everyone know, hey, look at what we just bought? Or are we going to be a little more conservative? Is there a game plan? I wouldn't say it's somewhere in between. Okay.
Somewhere in between, yeah. We need guys that are going to help us win and get us in the right direction.

But at the same time, we're still going to be disciplined with the approach.

So we don't want to do anything crazy that's going to hurt us on the road.

We kind of want to find that sweet spot where we can do this for a long time.

Okay, I like that answer.

You guys are smart guys.

You are smart.

How did you guys meet?

It was a couple years ago. Linked up was that we were playing golf there in florida and got to know each other um and then there were some you know people that i worked with that worked with coach um so we got to kind of do our homework on each other that way too yeah yep had a few phone calls over the years did you know like when you were interviewing for the position, I feel like I'm nailing these interviews.
I feel like I've got a good shot. Well, I know that when him and I started to build our relationship, I could certainly see us working together because we had the same philosophies.
We cared about the same things. We put the players first.
We always want to serve the players and help them become better. And that's where our hearts were.
And you could feel that right away. So that was the most important thing because you start with foundation of people.
You know, that's the most important thing. And then are you like, you know, in terms of like having that same vision.
And I certainly felt that all the way through and still, you know, still obviously do. And it's just building and building.
Our relationship's getting stronger stronger and stronger so it's been cool i i didn't know that much about you coming into this interview but what i can tell just from sitting at a table with you and hearing you talk you've got you have the coach's accent when i hear your accent that's that's football coach to me it's like a little bit gruden is that the ohio coming out is that what that is um I just been blessed to have a lot of great examples of coaches you know from you know Gary Pinkle who just got in the Hall of Fame I worked for him 18 years and then Nick Saban for that you know short amount of time the impact that he had and then all the position coaches you know uh Coach Pease Dean Pease just retired um I was with him he won two Super Bowls as a defensive coordinator. Tom Amstutz was the head coach at Toledo.
You know, we had a fantastic record there. So a lot of really good, successful coaches, but really good men to be able to really show me the way.
I'm also moving you up in my power rankings of which coaches could beat up other coaches in the NFL. Yeah, no, you definitely are getting moved up.
The look you gave me when I was like, you're a cat guy, soft. You want to jump across the table.
You're allowed to hit him. Yeah, no, that's...
When we do our post-grades after this, we're like, that guy's got some mean and motor. Yeah.
That's a fact. I like it.
That's a fact. That's good.
Yeah, we're pushing all the right buttons. And you, I feel like you could beat up a majority of the general managers, right? Oh, yeah.
I'll let you figure that out on here right yeah yeah you guys definitely size each other up when you're making trades yeah you guys are it's like anything else in life you're trying to alpha each other a little bit yeah and again these are the dumb things that we think of as fans where we're just like in the middle of like july we'll say what team would win the super bowl if it was just a fist fight between the coaches shit like that right be Be careful of Vrabel, though. He'll fight dirty.
Ryan, question about the start of your time in Chicago. You obviously had the Roquan contract stuff in the summer.
Yeah. Ends up being in a trade.
How do you think that all, like, looking back on it, went down? Do you have any regrets or, like, hey, I wish I had because that was you got thrown right into it like that was immediately this is a tough situation yeah figure out a way to get through it yeah no I knew coming in that you always have to stay on your toes and adjust and adapt and um but no with that situation you know I felt like we had a system we had a process I talk about it a lot just in terms of how we're going to value certain positions and players um we're going to put that together we're going to stick with it there's some flexibility there that you try to work um and I felt like we did that and at the end of the day I thought the result was great you know Roquan got the contract he was looking for um we got some draft capital and we'll just continue to build that way but I couldn't be happier for him. Yeah, and then what about the Chase Claypool trade? So I'm a fan of it.
I think the story is not done. That's my line.
Correct. Some people online are saying we got fleeced.
Yeah. Yeah.
Did you get fleeced? It's just the way that it goes down. I think at the end of the day, it was an opportunity to get another receiver on the team that can affect the game.
I've talked about this, too, where this is where it's different than basketball and baseball. It's not just plug and play immediately.
There was offseason workouts, there's training camp, all of that that he didn't get. And then especially for an outside receiver, there's a relationship piece with a quarterback that there's trust, especially big body receivers that win in contested situations.
You've got to trust that even if you don't see it. And I know in this offseason they're going to get some work together and that relationship is going to grow.
So I don't think the story is written. I got confidence in it.
Yes. And at some points, you know, in this game, you got to take chances.
You got to step out and do things. And right there was opportunity to get our team better, our offense better and give better, and give Justin another weapon to throw to.
I got your back on that, so don't worry, because I ran into Chase Claypool at the Super Bowl, and he knew my name. So I was like, I'm a fan of yours for life.
So you and I might both get fired just going down with Chase Claypool. We'll do it.
We'll be back-to-back being like, no, we didn't get fleeced. We're not owned.
So don't worry. I got you.
You got me fighting for you. Coach, did you work with Justin Fields on his tackling after watching that film of him trying to take out Micah Parsons, just like stepping over him? I did not, no.
No? His tackling improved this year. That was bad.
That was bad. He shouldn't be doing that very much.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's smart. It's just like don't hurt yourself, but also maybe just touch him if he's already down on the ground.
I'd actually prefer he did it the way – I know it was embarrassing, but probably Jay Cutler's best year with the Bears, he went out with an injury because he broke his thumb tackling after an interception. So let's just maybe get him out of – like just get out of there.
Don't even worry about it. Or just no interceptions.
Yeah, or just no interceptions that's probably a good call what do you think about the orange jerseys how are we feeling do you feel like the team has a different personality because again we'll see like a different jersey color and be like oh that team looks awesome today they're going to be sick do you think the guys play different in different jerseys? No, I do not. Damn.
Alright. That was a dumb question.
And also, I disagree with your answer, respectfully. That's just you, it's the Dion.
You look good, you play good. Like, that happens.
So you never ever see it. Right.
I think it's in the preparation, not in the jersey. Yeah.
Again, like I would, I like that a coach says this.

It would be a big red flag. But I kind of want it deep down.

Taking out outfits before the game.

Deep down, I kind of want him to admit,

if you have a bad week of preparation,

you could just be like,

let's just put out a really sick jersey

and that will make up for a whole.

Everything will be good.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, have it actually have bear fur on it.

Yeah, we have no game plan, guys. But fucking color rush.
Let's go. It's going to be sick.
Coach, why are we not using fullbacks anymore? Good question. We use fullback.
No, just in general, in the NFL. Oh, okay.
What's with the demise of the position? I think the utilization of fullback is an important thing. That's why we have one.
So it's an important piece to it. I would say that a lot of the college game is coming up to the pro game, and in many instances they're not using fullbacks, and I think that's a big case of it.
But we certainly value fullbacks, and we think it's an important piece. The pendulum is swinging back a little bit, because for a while felt like there were maybe one or two teams that actually had like a full-time fullback.
And you see the top teams doing it, right? Georgia and Alabama, they all have fullbacks and different, you know, two-back sets and all that. Even at the professional level when everything is, you know, so high-paced and so specialized, do you think that there's still room in the game or a need in the game to have a guy like a fullback who will just go out there and hit somebody and just establish a physical tone to it? Yeah, I think it creates a lot of problems for the defense.
When you create different formation sets, and if you have a guy that can really do damage in the passing game, have a route tree out there when he's flexed out and then bring him back, it creates obviously an obviously, an additional gap in the run game. You know, so there's a lot of problems it creates for the defense.
We're big fans of fullbacks. Yeah.
Because it also just looks cool. Yeah.
Just hat on hat. Neck roll.
Yeah. Just run the damn ball.
Yeah. The neck roll.
Yeah. Do you like to run the damn ball? Jushik for the 49ers.
Jushik, great. Yeah, awesome.
Great weapon. Yes.
All time,-Stott. All-Stott, I would say, well, John Kuhn, I would say.
I like John Kuhn. He's a Packer, so I don't like him.
Yeah, that's fair. But his average, I think, was exactly 3.0 yards per carry.
So the old saying was, like, you need one yard, he'll get you three. You need five yards, he'll get you three.
He was just, you know, plug and play. All-star, he was a little flashy sometimes, but he got the job.
Who's your guys' favorite fullbacks? These guys talking fullbacks. I'd probably go back a little bit.
Who's with the Chargers? Lorenzo Neal? Oh, yeah, Lorenzo Neal. He's a hammer.
He's a hammer. Yeah, he was awesome.
I think he blocked for 10 consecutive thousand-yard rushers. Yeah.
Crazy. What about you? I? I'm an all-stock guy.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because we played him way back when I was coaching in college. So, yeah.
I certainly respect him. Yeah, he's a beast.
We're lucky enough to know him, and he's come on the show a bunch of times. He actually gave us some game-worn jerseys, and it's so funny how they go down to, like, our ankles.
Yeah, they're so long. How big they were.
Yeah, yeah. Right right they're huge back then it's funny because uh him and Lorenzo came on our show at the same time and we set up our bench press we have a bench press in our studio that we rarely use uh but we broke it out on special occasion for these guys Lorenzo hopped on there and I think he put up 185 something like 52 times no way just kept going kept going kept going do you guys when you're looking at bench press for players coming into the nfl is that do you does that exercise actually factor into any decision making that you're doing whether or not you want to draft this guy or is bench press like a relic of the past we're just we're looking at the extremes you know if you get one yeah concerning yeah that would be fair like kevin durant didn't even get any.
Right. So bust.
That's what we're saying. You get a certain number over, what, 25? Yeah.
You're good. What if it's like a quarterback that's putting up? Remember Brady Quinn? He hopped on there.
Yeah, it doesn't move the needle. At all? Yeah.
What about the – we're still waiting, so we're going to air this on Monday, but it's Friday morning. The Bryce Young height watch.
Everyone's waiting with bated breath. Do you think it actually matters as much as the internet is saying, or it's like, come on, the guy can play? I think it's like anything else.
What do you have? Because a lot of times if you focus on what guys don't have, you're kind of blinded from their strengths., their strengths. And, you know, the way that guy plays the game and sees it, you know, I think he does some things to overcome, you know, those shortcomings.
Yeah. Also, it's more important to measure to the eyes.
Who really cares what happens in the forehead region? That's wasted space. Where their eyes are, that's the real metric, I think.
He might have high eyes. We don't know.
Yeah, potentially. We should measure that.
Yeah, like Peyton Manning just wasted his entire foot. He did.
Yeah, bust. Another bust.
Right. What about hand size? Do you guys pay attention to hand size on quarterbacks? Yeah, I mean, we look at it.
But then, again, you watch the tape, and it kind of tells you everything you need to know. Playing in different weather, if you have no issues, have no issues then you're fine yeah yeah um how coach when you were on when you're coaching with the colts uh phil river is one of our favorite quarterbacks uh did you ever get him to swear around you maybe in practice when you're dialing up on defense like god fucking damn it no nothing nothing no he he is fantastic though yeah yeah we i loved working with him our defensive guys love going against him all spring and during training camp and it was competitive but it was fun spirited you know it was really really cool it was on the edge of it and it was really got us you know going during practice and uh he's phenomenal yeah who's the biggest competitor during practice you've ever been around? I would say Shaq Leonard.

Yeah, he's a monster.

Yeah, when I had him those four years, he was ultra competitive the entire time.

Yeah.

Full tilt the entire time during practice.

Do you watch Thursday night football, Monday night football, Sunday night football?

Or after you're done with the game, you go back to work?

No, I watch it, yeah. You watch all that stuff? I do.
Do you have a favorite set of announcers? No, I don't. I don't really watch that part of it.
Yeah. The TV copy I do watch just to see the replays and all those things during the course of the week, but I don't have the volume on.
I like that. That's a big football guy move.
What about the analytics part of the game?

Yeah, that's huge.

Do you have a guy?

Do you have like a nerd that's just around you?

And you're like, this is my nerd.

We have several guys that work in our analytics department that we both utilize on both sides,

on the football side and the scouting side.

It's a very important part for us.

Do you ever get mad at them?

Mad at them?

Yeah, mad at the analytics people?

No.

When they're giving you a number.

No, because why would you get mad at them? They would withhold information from you don't want to do that you want to leadership yeah you want to be able to divulge all the information they have so how do you go about figuring out um uh like hypothetical situation fourth quarter uh how much time is left two minutes two minutes a little less than two minutes like 152 something like that okay How how many timeouts you have three timeouts okay and you're down by eight points okay okay and it's fourth and goal right fourth and goal on the eight yard line okay down by eight points you got three timeouts left okay do you go for it try to score a touchdown again you're down by eight or do you kick a field goal? No, you have to go there. Yeah, smart.
Smart. Got to go.
Hypothetically, that's smart. Some people, some coaches in the league might be like, hey, we're down eight.
Let's try to kick three field goals to win the game by one. And also Tom Brady's the other point.
There's not a coach in the league that would say that. Ah, there's one coach.
There's one coach. Yeah.
He's not here right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's got a French name. He's going to hate hearing this again.
No, it's Matt LaFleur. He's an idiot.
So we're friends with him, but we've brought up that hypothetical probably 3,000 times on this show. So he'll text us and be like, why do you guys keep doing that? I'm like, well, why not? Yeah.
You're down eight. It's a pretty basic math problem.
Yes. What about this one? You're down 14 points There's What, 2 minutes, 30 seconds left In the game? You just scored a touchdown Do you go for 2 Or do you kick an extra point? So now I'm down 7? Well you're down 6 because you just scored The touchdown.
Do you Kick the extra point to go down 7 or Do you go for 2 to go down 6 potentially? Kick the extra point. Okay.
All right. We had one smart person tell us.
I said if you went two minutes too long. You just got to go for two.
Well, I was looking back ten minutes ago. Yeah, that's true.
You got to go for two. You go for two because – help me.
You go for two because that way it's about 50-50 chance that you convert the two-point conversion. So if you miss it the first time, then you can go for two the second time.
And if you make it the first time, you can win the game with an extra point. There you go.
There we go. We knew it.
We know it. All right, last question.
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I can't tell you that. Just we'll cut this.
It's too early. We'll cut this.
It's too early. How many? Who's called? How many calls? How many calls? Let's do that.
That's totally. A few.
Oh, well, we, again, I think you guys get our vibe. We're pretty dumb.ank doesn't know the difference between a couple and a few so why don't we give it an exact number hank's gonna have to figure it out okay yeah we're gonna be here all day yeah hank in his head was gonna hold you yeah that was two calls they got two calls all right so we're starting all right and then we we obviously we're we're moving to chicago we're gonna open big office.
You guys are welcome. We would love to have you come and compete so we can see the dog in you.
Yeah. The motor, the mean, all that stuff.
I'll just let you hit Big Cat. I'll just let you take him out.
Yeah. And while I'm just like cat guy.
Yeah. You like cats.
I'm not owned. What about this? What about this? If the Bears win a Super Bowl, if you win a Super Bowl with the Bears, Big Cat, will you get a cat? Oh, yeah.
You'll get two cats. I'll get fucking ten cats.
I'll get ten cats. There you go.
We're going to hold you, too. I'll get ten cats if the Bears win a Super Bowl.
Love it. There we go.
Under your guys' watch, you guys can bring us there. I think maybe like 75 years.
Maybe they'll win one. I gonna get like actually i'll be like old so yeah that's would be nice yeah um we've this interview has gone way too long uh thank you guys so much obviously best of luck thank you let's let's let's wheel and deal we will let's wheel you need a smoke according to your plan i got a lot of work you listen you need a smoke screen you let me know.
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How many times did you get it? A couple. Well, no, you've never gotten it.
Yeah, you're right. Damn.
How many different people would you say in Indy came up to you and just gave you numbers? I told you that they got it. I just people will get, yeah.
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By the way, congratulations, PFT, the one-week anniversary for you getting it.

Thank you.

Yeah, you're right.

Actually, seven days ago right now.

Right now, right this second.

And then you remember when I didn't, I false started?

Yeah.

And then Hank took my number?

Yeah. And then I took a new number and it won.
Yeah. And then I won $36,000.
Wow. He's never going to get it.
Hank still owes me money for that. Do you think he sold me clothes? If he's anything like Max, it will take like six weeks.
Hank, it's Southwestern merchandise, which is on the way. Blame Venmo.
Right. Yeah.
And I've said once I get that, you'll get your money. Do you think you've had every number recommended to you? Like all 100? That'd be impossible.
Well, no. No, like all 100 possible numbers? No, because he's never gotten the right number recommended to him.
Do you ever take into account people's advice when determining what you're going to pick? Sometimes, yeah. I have a good one for this.
Someone DM me my suggestion for today.

You have a good number?

Yeah.

Okay.

It's a hot one.

Okay, numbers.

69.

15.

Ew.

For Anthony Richardson?

18.

Seriously?

Mm-hmm.

I'll do 17 then.

Tebow.

15.

20.

I'm going to go 33.

Larry Bird.

Maybe the greatest athlete of all time. True.
25. I saw the five ending.
You were close, Hank. Kind of.
I've had one out of two a lot recently. Another winner for Max Homa.

Oh, yeah.

Let's call him right now.

He choked today.

That's twice in a month.

I'm actually mad because I had him to finish top ten.

He couldn't fucking do that.

What a fucking piece of shit.

Some people were saying it was Mickey Mouse last time.

Twice.

Yeah.

Oh, fuck you, Hank. Oh.
Hank's trying to call me to interrupt it. Stop.
Hmm? Stop. Stop.
You're such a bitch. He's not picking up anyway.
He's probably on a fucking private chat. Good.
Hank keeps trying to FaceTime me. Why would you do that? This is for the AWLs.
Yeah, it is. I don't care.
Max Homer just won again. No, he didn't.
Yeah, he did. Wait, isn't the players next week? So they go from Orlando to Jacksonville.

It's probably.

Yeah, he just doesn't want to answer.

No, he's probably on a private jet.

He did choke, though. He should have been top ten.

Did you see he took his shoes and socks off and stood in the lake to hit a shot?

Yeah, that was a good visual.

He sucks.

Apparently there's an alligator in that lake, too.

Could have gotten killed.

I'll just put it on a text chain with all of us, Hank, so that he can see it and respond to it. All right.
That's the show. Love you guys.
I've been going on a deep dive on rabbit hole on sloth bears. They're the most vicious animal on earth.
I think more vicious than a honey badger. They fight tigers, and tigers are literally scared of them.
And sometimes in India they go on rampages and kill five people at a time.

They're literally the nastiest animal on Earth.

Attack this week with the sloth bear.

That's a fact.

Yeah.

This week's animal fact is sloth bears are sick.

Yeah.

All right, see you on Wednesday. See you on Wednesday.
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