Bears Head Coach Matt Eberflus & GM Ryan Poles, Crazy Sports Weekend With UFC, CBB, Ja Morant And More

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have

Speaker 1 Bearshead coach Matt Eberflus and Bears GM Ryan Poles. The earliest interview this podcast has ever done.

Speaker 1 So if we screwed anything up, that's because we were up so, so early trying to get our brains fired.

Speaker 1 But a very good interview with them talking about their football philosophies, talking about the first pick in the draft, Justin Fields, Matt Eberflus being a cat guy.

Speaker 1 A lot of good stuff that we covered. And we're also going to recap pretty crazy, you know, a lot of sports this weekend.
College basketball, UFC, NBA,

Speaker 1 John Morant, not so good. Uh, a lot of sports stories that came out in the last three days.
Update from Combine. We finally got Bryce Young's height and weight.

Speaker 1 So, a lot to get to.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Monday, March 6th.

Speaker 1 And boys, I don't even know where we want to start. Spin the roulette wheel.
XFL. XFL.

Speaker 1 It's still going on.

Speaker 2 It's going strong.

Speaker 1 This is my problem.

Speaker 2 Yeah, XFL kind of got lost in the sauce this weekend. DC Defenders 3-0.

Speaker 2 They had a big cup snake. They actually listened to the people and allowed the cup snake to happen this weekend.
Besides that, don't really care.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that's our XFL recap.

Speaker 1 I drank a lot of beer. Yeah, I don't know where we do.
I mean, Conference Championship Week is imminent.

Speaker 1 We are starting. We've already started some.
There's some bids that have already been taken place. Five bids.
Five bids that have taken place. Saturday was another great day in college basketball.

Speaker 1 And I guess what we really should start with is

Speaker 1 Max being the biggest jinx in the world. So PFT, you also had UCLA.
Yep. Max

Speaker 1 toward Jalen Clark.

Speaker 6 The MRI is not out yet.

Speaker 1 The MRI is not out yet, but

Speaker 1 Jalen Clark for UCLA, their best defender,

Speaker 1 Torres Achilles.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to say, there's too many Jalens. Yeah.
Too many Jalens. I can't keep track of all the Jalens at this point.
It looks like a Torn Achilles. If anyone watched the

Speaker 1 I told Max afterwards because he got us all invested in UCLA, we were going to be the Bruins. We were going to get excited.
Our guy, Mick Cronin, great, you know, they're whooping Arizona.

Speaker 1 Everything feels great. Blue blood.
Blue blood, number one seed. They're probably still going to get a number one seed.
Bill Walton talking, I think the 1973 team was getting honored.

Speaker 1 And PFT, I was so mad at Max and so mad about everything that I went and I found like alternate fan angles of his torn Achilles.

Speaker 1 And so I've seen at least three different angles, including the TV copy. It is a Torn Achilles.

Speaker 2 Now, isn't it possible, though, that if any coach kind of relishes this opportunity where nobody believes in you, it's Mick Cronin? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Was UCLA too highly touted going into this tournament for Mick Cronin and his underdog mentality to truly shine?

Speaker 1 Listen, they're still a very good team, but that was their ceiling because that was, you know, he is their best defender. He's a very good player.

Speaker 1 He can change a lot of games with how he defends.

Speaker 2 And now your rotation gets shorter.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And what's the old saying?

Speaker 1 Fuck, what was it? Next man up. No, that's not

Speaker 1 the same.

Speaker 2 Next man up. I like it, Jake.
We're going next man up. More teams should do that.

Speaker 2 Let's be honest. More teams should do next man up.

Speaker 1 No, it's play eight, trust seven. Now, UCLA is going to be play seven, trust six.
A lot harder to do.

Speaker 2 That's a lot of math.

Speaker 1 Well, that's basketball. Play eight, trust seven.

Speaker 1 When you're in like, you know, March Madness, when you're in the NBA Finals, playoffs, play eight, trust seven. Yeah.
It's a good way to go about life.

Speaker 2 There's still probably going to be. Titus was telling us earlier that they're probably going to be one of those.
They will. So they'll be protected a little bit.

Speaker 2 It's not good.

Speaker 2 I'd rather not be in this position that I am right now. But I still got my Boilermakers.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Boil down, baby. Good thing no one from Tennessee got injured this week.

Speaker 2 I know, Jake.

Speaker 1 I'm very confused.

Speaker 1 Good thing no one from Tennessee got injured this week. Nope.

Speaker 2 No short kings from Tennessee got hurt.

Speaker 2 I love that dude Ziegler, too. What were you going to say, Hank?

Speaker 7 I was going to say, spin zone. You know, maybe if you're trying to find one, just picture this in a couple weeks.
Cold open before one shining moment. It's the injury Achilles.

Speaker 2 Oh, start of the DVD. Music starts.

Speaker 7 Tip off in Nashville.

Speaker 1 Okay, because I can picture it

Speaker 1 Saturday of the opening weekend. UCLA loses the 1-8 matchup, and Max is sitting off the stream, and I'm just screaming at him the whole time, being like, Look what you did, you fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 And he's just like, I shouldn't have got my hair cut.

Speaker 2 I'm a bad guy. I might jump in in the boat for Nova, too.
I might put put a future on nova

Speaker 1 i might put a i might put a future on nova to win the nit yeah that actually is a good bet yeah let's do it although those teams usually don't try hard in the nit i don't even know if they'll make the nit

Speaker 1 okay max is the definition of down bad right now it's been a bad it's been a bad three weeks for old maxie yes but he has paid he has paid and uh he's paid up the super bowl bet and uh yeah we had a great saturday great sunday at college hoops we're gearing up this is one of my favorite weeks of the year we'll have some content coming out for it so uh it was it was a very good like wall-to-wall last something about senior night senior night really gets it going you know everyone gets the same uh framed picture of yeah of their jersey their family is standing behind them um and it's always funny in college basketball because like if you have your family out for an mvp warden in the nba or the nfl like you've got money so everyone's dressed really nice in senior night it's like your parents are just looking like your parents they've always looked like your parents i love the giant ribbons that they wear sometimes That's only a ribbon that you would wear on an occasion where you're walking out onto a hardwood floor.

Speaker 2 We should also talk about maybe the most important college basketball news of the weekend,

Speaker 2 which we haven't touched yet.

Speaker 2 This is from LeBron James.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Just woke up from having a dream

Speaker 2 that MJ and I was shooting the SH asterisk plus sign. I think he meant shit.
Back and forth at the men's national championship game between North Carolina slash Duke.

Speaker 2 Great vibes, an epic classic game. It was was a tie game, 94 to 94 with five seconds left.
UNC with the ball. My ass would wake up to see the bathroom right before seeing the ending of the game.

Speaker 2 Palm emoji, palm face. Happens all the time.
Never got to the end. Anyways, felt real as hell.

Speaker 1 Lol.

Speaker 2 Good morning, everyone. Smiley face.
So I got to figure out,

Speaker 2 let's just figure out what happened at the end of that game.

Speaker 1 It's also good to know that that's another way of settling the goat debate. Because LeBron James is literally dreaming about hanging out with Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 Do you think Michael Jordan's dreaming about hanging out with LeBron James? No cheat.

Speaker 2 Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 He's probably dreaming about drinking tequila.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 2 UNC won this game.

Speaker 2 97-94.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they had the ball.

Speaker 2 Yeah, UNC had the ball. It was a tie game, 94-94, five seconds left.
Incredible last-second shot by, who are you going to say made the shot?

Speaker 1 Antoine Jameson.

Speaker 2 Antoine Jameson with Eric Montrose on the assist.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Tyler Hansborough.

Speaker 1 He was the coach of UNC.

Speaker 2 And then Rasheed Wallace smoked LeBron James out after the game.

Speaker 1 Yes, Hank.

Speaker 7 One casual take I had watching the Duke UNC game.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that did happen as well.

Speaker 1 No, no, that rivalry is dead.

Speaker 8 Dead.

Speaker 1 Over. Over.
Coach K killed it.

Speaker 7 Should have retired. Brings me to my next point.
I don't even really, because I'm not even, my Duke fandom has fallen over the years, but I was watching that game.

Speaker 7 Carolina seemed like they're not going to make the tournament.

Speaker 7 They just seem like a team from a casual point of view that somehow wins the ACC tournament and gets in. Oh.
They have experience. They've been on a run before.

Speaker 7 They just got to get hot at the right time. They have been.
They're not hot right now.

Speaker 1 They're not bad this year against good teams.

Speaker 7 But somehow these teams get in.

Speaker 2 That's kind of what happened with UNCG. You went to like a different extent obviously last year.

Speaker 7 Those are my keeping out of this.

Speaker 1 But UNC actually won games in the regular season last year down the stretch.

Speaker 1 They won at Duke, the last game Coach K ever coached at Cameron.

Speaker 8 They haven't beaten anybody.

Speaker 1 They beat UVA.

Speaker 1 Yeah, their first quad one win was UVA, I believe. Yeah.
And their only quad one win.

Speaker 7 Something I'm looking at. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 I think what you're going with here, Hank, is that you like the uniforms. And when you see those uniforms in March, you're like, that uniform usually wins this time of year.
It is.

Speaker 1 It is true.

Speaker 1 All of love came back.

Speaker 7 I watched him rip my heart out last year.

Speaker 1 Rondo Baycott

Speaker 1 probably going to

Speaker 1 roll his ankle 17 times, but still put up a double-double. These things happen.

Speaker 2 They just got to get hot.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 2 I don't hate it. That's a good point.

Speaker 2 If UNC gets hot,

Speaker 7 they have the players.

Speaker 1 That's also one of the experience. That's one of those best.

Speaker 7 They have a name. They have the colors.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that you won't feel dumb because you're just like, well, it's UNC. Right.

Speaker 1 That's on them, not me. Yeah.
They're UNC.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Not a bad thought.
Yeah, Duke did win that game, and it is.

Speaker 1 It's just the fact that it's not played in the 80s anymore is depressing to me.

Speaker 2 It's sad. It's just sad having Coach K not around.
It's a major be careful what you wish for situation where

Speaker 2 it was we needed Coach K around. I miss him.
College basketball needs a villain.

Speaker 1 He was a reason for me to wake up in the morning. Yeah.
And now I have no reason to wake up.

Speaker 1 Nothing good in my life. I just stay in bed all day.
Yeah. Hoping that he'll come out of retirement.

Speaker 2 It would be nice. What if he just took the team back and was like, I'm going to coach him in the tournament? Yeah.
Shire's not ready for the game.

Speaker 1 It would make it, yeah, must-watch tournament. I mean, it already is must-watch tournament.
Yeah. Yeah.
Why not? Because who knows who's good?

Speaker 1 I'm just very, very excited. Kansas lost.

Speaker 2 What if Coach K came back, took Duke, and then won a national championship?

Speaker 1 That would kill me.

Speaker 2 That would be very funny, though. That would kill me.
I'll be honest with you, I would root for Duke if Coach K did that.

Speaker 1 I would root for myself to bury him again.

Speaker 2 I would root for Duke in that tournament because just the content. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So a lot of college basketball coming up.

Speaker 1 Should we talk a little UFC? Yeah. John Jones, the GOAT, is back.

Speaker 1 Awesome card. Like start to finish.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you guys caught the main event card, but the guy, Bo Nickel, who I think went to Penn State, who is like a stud wrestler, just an insane wrestler, he's going to be a freak.

Speaker 1 And then the

Speaker 1 guy from Kazakhstan, Rachmenov, he is the Terminator.

Speaker 2 That dude is crazy.

Speaker 1 He just beat the fuck out of Jeff Lewis's face and then was like, all right, I can't knock you out. You have a really good chin.
Let me just choke you out. Literally put you to sleep standing up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he connected on like six or seven straight punches right to his jaw. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And the dude wasn't crumpling at all, just like taking the abuse and yeah i mean a solid choke from sten you very rarely see that and and the and the and the woman's uh shevchenko and um grasso

Speaker 2 groso's a grasso's a beast she's like plus 600 grasso's a tiny little monster they were saying on the broadcast that uh shevchenko i think had like only lost uh like maybe like one or two rounds in the time that she had the belt yeah did you did you see the replay joe rogan pointed this out afterwards yes so grasso choked shevchenko out and then when she released the choke you could see the line on her face where the blood had pooled yeah and where there was absolutely no blood circulating yeah and the bottom half of her face there was a clear line there it looked like paul isinger's head in golf where it was just completely white from like the lips down

Speaker 1 i don't know what it says about me uh but i have you know i'm a

Speaker 1 I'm maybe whatever one step above a UFC casual is because I do probably purchase, I don't know, 10 pay-per-views a year.

Speaker 1 So it's like not casual, casual, but like I obviously, it's not my, you know, main sport that I'm studying all the time. But in my watching of UFC, I've grown to absolutely love submissions.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like I know that a lot of people don't like the ground and pound and like the wrestling because a lot of times you just don't know what's going on and guys will lay on each other trying to get an angle for like a whole five-minute round.

Speaker 1 Something about a submission. It's so primal.
Just watching it.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. Watching some of the toughest people on planet Earth be like, no, Mas, you can't do it anymore.
Just get me out of this situation.

Speaker 1 And that was John Jones. It happened so fast.

Speaker 1 Surreal gain, like, he, all he had, it was basically the worst performance you could have because the only memorable highlight you had was kicking your opponent in the dick and then getting choked out within a minute and a half after that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, John Jones, when he came out there and he stepped in the ring, they made him cut his foot wrap off for some reason. It was an illegal foot wrap.

Speaker 2 And then he stepped in the ring and I was like, is John Jones fat now?

Speaker 1 Well, he was fighting away.

Speaker 2 He had to step up, but like he's he's definitely big in the midsection right now.

Speaker 1 Although we didn't have, because Joe Rogan will call guys out and be like, this guy looks soft. He said that earlier.
Jeff Lewis. Yeah.
He's like, he looks soft.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'll be honest with you. He's soft right now.

Speaker 1 That's a brutal thing to have happen as you're stepping into the octagon.

Speaker 2 I think John Jones is the best UFC fighter of all time. I think at this point, it's hard to say otherwise because he has that one loss on his record, but that was just for like illegal elbows, right?

Speaker 2 When he's beating the fuck out of a guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, the only person who could beat John Jones is John Jones.

Speaker 2 Yeah, or the drug test guy.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, his demons. Yeah, so I'm saying like he, he can't, he had an interview

Speaker 1 like it was a while, a long time ago, where someone asked him, like, do you think you can stay out of trouble? And he's like, I hope. Yes.
Like, he was very honest about it.

Speaker 1 He wasn't saying like, yeah, I'm going to, I've changed. He's like, no, I.
This just keeps happening to me, and I know it's a problem.

Speaker 2 And don't get me wrong, he is the best UFC fighter of all time. but we don't really talk that much about, you say you like demons.

Speaker 2 I think he's got five failed drug tests, not for like Coke or anything. I think he's tested positive five times for doping.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 2 For like PEDs. And can you imagine if another, like the greatest of all time in any other sport had five positive steroid tests?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 We would probably be like, fuck that guy. We should not count any of these.
But I think in UFC, you kind of take into account that a lot of the other guys are probably doping too.

Speaker 2 They just get away with it. So John Jones, greatest fighter of all time, maybe worst steroid user of all time.

Speaker 1 And also, I mean, let's be honest, not the best guy because there's some things on his rap sheet that are very bad. Yeah.
So, but he is, yeah, he came back, two minutes, over.

Speaker 7 Why can't he fight Francis Nagano?

Speaker 1 Because he's not in the UFC anymore.

Speaker 2 Because Dana White called off negotiations with Francis Nagano. So Francis Nagano.

Speaker 9 He's going to start negotiations.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 it's a very interesting

Speaker 1 setup now that the UFC has because if you want to do tinfoil hat, the UFC wanted John Jones to win last night because Surreal Gain would have won the belt even though he lost to Francis Nagano.

Speaker 1 So it would have been like a Mickey Mouse belt. The guy who has, the guy who won the belt in the Octagon is not in the UFC and someone else owns the belt.

Speaker 1 Now, at least there's a distance between it where John Jones has it. They've never fought.

Speaker 1 Dana said never. He said never on Friday, I believe.
I also saw a resurface cliffs where he said the same thing about

Speaker 1 well, that's the best thing is like the like in the fight game it's it's like the fight game and college football coaches if they say something they can change their mind within a week yeah the thing about about dana white saying never say never but i'm saying never is that that's in a weird twisted way almost better for promoting the eventual fight that would happen it's like wait he said never and it's happening somehow like dana white knows how to sell a fucking fight yes and so he could just reverse course on that who knows what naganu is asking for well he's also there's rumors that naganu wants to just get into boxing yeah so that was the big sticking point they were negotiating for a while he was there was a price on him fighting john jones i think it was like eight million dollars but he didn't his his main sticking point was if i sign with the ufc i can't do anything outside the ufc i want to potentially box because if he was a good boxer boxers get paid way more than eight million dollars if they're if if he was like gonna fight tyson fury right i don't know how that would work he'd i don't know if they'd just let him fast forward and fight him but there's a lot of money in boxing for the top level guys.

Speaker 1 And so he was like, yeah, I don't want to do this because they won't let me

Speaker 1 do other things. So I hope it happens.
I think everyone wants it to happen.

Speaker 2 It did look like they were setting Stipe Miocic up for it.

Speaker 1 Like they want Steepe to be the fight.

Speaker 2 And then Stipe, when they interviewed him, Stipe was like,

Speaker 8 you could tell he was a little afraid.

Speaker 2 to fight John Jones. He didn't seem super confident after the fight was over.
He's a bad dude. He's a bad dude.
I would not personally, I'm going to say this right now. Never say never.

Speaker 2 I will never fight John Jones in the UFC.

Speaker 2 I won't say that. And I'll double.

Speaker 1 If Dana White wants to pay me

Speaker 1 $300 million, I'll get choked out by him.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 But he would just knock you the fuck. He wouldn't go for this.

Speaker 1 No, I would lay down and be like,

Speaker 1 I'd take my back. Yeah, like, here's my back.
Take it. Just choke me out.
I'll tap. I wonder if I could just go in and just tap.

Speaker 2 Immediately? Yeah, just tap on my own arm. The strategy to beating John Jones is to lay down on the ground and hope that he warns you with an illegal shot.

Speaker 2 And then he loses the fight on a technicality, and then

Speaker 2 you get the belt.

Speaker 7 What if you had to go longer than a minute and a half? No.

Speaker 2 I've long said...

Speaker 1 You just beat my concussed brain as I'm flopping like a dead fish.

Speaker 2 I've long said that I will do anything.

Speaker 2 Literally anything for $100 million.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I think I would fight John Jones for $100 million.

Speaker 1 I don't think you could even run around.

Speaker 1 He'll just catch you.

Speaker 2 Billy, you think that you're saying absolutely because you think that you would stand a chance against him?

Speaker 1 Okay. Billy,

Speaker 1 can I ask a side question? Yeah. Does Riff Raff want to fight you?

Speaker 1 Chuck Borden?

Speaker 1 I heard a rumor at Rough and Rowdy on Friday night that Riffraff wants to call out Billy.

Speaker 1 Look,

Speaker 1 I don't know. Okay.
That's right. No comments.

Speaker 10 Riffraff, also huge steroid user and has been boxing for the past three years, and that's like the only thing he does.

Speaker 2 All right, so you're afraid of Riff Raff.

Speaker 1 All right, so Billy's don't think it's

Speaker 2 ducking Riffraff.

Speaker 2 I podcast six days a week.

Speaker 10 I'm not like have a professional trainer who trains me.

Speaker 1 He releases music.

Speaker 7 He makes bangers.

Speaker 6 Anyway, but what I want to say is

Speaker 2 let's just put a bow on it. You are ducking Riffraff.

Speaker 1 Whatever.

Speaker 10 Chail Sonen said that

Speaker 10 Chaoson said that Francis Nganu, one of the reasons why they're not re-signing him, he actually said this on Robbie Fox's podcast, My Mom's Basement. He said that he wasn't a draw.

Speaker 10 Like the one that he headlined, the UFC card he headlined, only did like 30k.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I mean, this should be a draw because John Jones, but no, yeah, he, but they're like, it's not worth paying for it because John Jones is the draw.

Speaker 10 Like, Nganu isn't a big draw, apparently. So, I mean, that's pretty crazy.
And also, John Jones put on 45 pounds for this fight to get up to the heavyweight level.

Speaker 10 And he's been, the reason he hasn't fought is because he wanted to get out of the USATA protocol and do what McGregor is doing right now and just juice up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, that shouldn't be legal. Yeah, Chris Saganu did did tweet at John Jones after saying, good job, Johnny Boy, sincerely the heavyweight king.

Speaker 1 So he's if you're a tinfoil hat guy, this is all working out perfectly for a mega, mega fight.

Speaker 2 Yeah, actually, like, thinking about what Dana White said about Nagano, teeing it up for a rematch and saying, yeah, Nagano is going to fight John Jones if he wins, that's not nearly as much buzz as if as if Dana White physically removes Nagano from the blacklist.

Speaker 2 Right. It's like, okay, he can fight again.
And that was a lengthy two-week suspension I gave him. I hope he learned his lesson.
Yes.

Speaker 10 Also, you see the Drekis knockout against who was it?

Speaker 2 Brunson?

Speaker 1 That was brutal.

Speaker 10 Yes. That was just.

Speaker 1 It was a great. I mean, when UFC hits and it's just a great card and there's big names and everything, it's awesome to watch.
What were you going to say, Hank?

Speaker 7 Jake Gyllenhaal is there. Yeah, I was going to say.

Speaker 2 Did Jack think he's on the juice?

Speaker 1 Well, no, he. Oh, I congrats to Jake Gyllenhaal.
He won his fight. Yeah.
So they're taping

Speaker 1 a remake of Roadhouse, which is an abomination because Roadhouse is basically the perfect movie.

Speaker 1 So he got in the ring in between some fights and taped some scenes of him winning, and the ref pulled him off, and then he kept on hitting him. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You can read between the lines about what that scene is going to be.

Speaker 1 It didn't really make me want to see the movie.

Speaker 2 So I'm guessing that what happens is at the start of the fight, or at the start of the movie, it's Dalton or whoever is playing Dalton in Roadhouse, Jake Gyllenha, and he's a UFC fighter and he gets kicked out of UFC for being too violent.

Speaker 2 Then he goes on to be a bouncer of a bar

Speaker 1 in Florida

Speaker 2 and then works his way back into UFC and eventually kicks somebody's ass. That's what I'm guessing.

Speaker 7 I've never seen Roadhouse.

Speaker 1 Oh, dude, you gotta see it.

Speaker 1 We're gonna start doing Man Movie Fridays.

Speaker 2 Pain.

Speaker 2 Pain Don't Hurt.

Speaker 1 Roadhouse, or Dalton,

Speaker 1 philosophy major at NYU.

Speaker 1 And one of the greatest lines of all time when,

Speaker 1 what was the bad guy's name? I can't remember.

Speaker 1 When he got right behind him, he goes, I used to fuck guys like you in prison. It's like, wait, what? Yeah, good luck coming back from that one.
Okay. Bahars.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Somebody asked me on Twitter after the fight, because I said that John Jones was an inspiration to cocaine users everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Who would be your goats,

Speaker 2 your Mount Rushmore of cocaine athletes? Lawrence Taylor.

Speaker 1 Lawrence Taylor's definitely.

Speaker 1 Maradona. Maradona.
Maradona's on there. David Bowie.
Although he became a Nazi when he was deep in Coke. As one does.
Athlete.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, but in terms of just great careers.

Speaker 2 He was kind of an athlete.

Speaker 1 There's no way.

Speaker 2 Oh, he fucked McJagger, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 I read a story once that David Bowie, for like two years of his life, all he ate was hot peppers and milk because that was all he could, because he was so addicted to cocaine.

Speaker 1 And so they would just feed him milk, like whole milks, since he was like a baby.

Speaker 2 The milk was to take away the sting of the hot peppers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the milk was also just to keep him alive.

Speaker 2 Jesus, that's weird.

Speaker 2 I would put the entire 1980, was it the 86 Mets?

Speaker 1 Yeah, oh, yeah, Daryl Strawberry and Doc.

Speaker 2 The entire 86 Mets are up there.

Speaker 1 Michael Irvin, Michael Irvin, Rock Call, Rob Ford.

Speaker 2 You remember when he dropped back to throw that dime?

Speaker 1 Athlete. Total athlete.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I was going to say something, but I'm not going to say it. Okay.
Yeah, and I think you know what I was going to say.

Speaker 2 I have a pretty good idea. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So that was good by us.
That's growth by us.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's take a break and we'll do.

Speaker 1 We got some more stuff to talk about. We got to talk about some Combine stuff, and then we'll do who's back of the week.

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Speaker 1 Uh, We should probably talk about John Morant.

Speaker 2 Yeah, fun.

Speaker 2 Guys being dudes. All-time guys being dudes moments there for Ja.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so he was

Speaker 1 on an Instagram live at the club. I don't know where.
I think he had a game in LA. Denver.
Denver. Okay, so it was a strip club.
It was strip club flashing a gun.

Speaker 1 I'll just say, all right, so outside of

Speaker 1 the seriousness of what's going on in John Morant's life, that was a pussy ass gun to flash.

Speaker 1 That thing was so small. I agree.
I've got like it was.

Speaker 1 We all agree, right?

Speaker 2 I've got three major issues with the Instagram Live.

Speaker 2 One was that his gun was like, it was half the size of a Derringer.

Speaker 1 It was so small. It was so tiny.

Speaker 2 You can't be flexing.

Speaker 1 That's not cool.

Speaker 2 You can't flex a tiny gun like that. You've got to have like a Desert Eagle.
You have to have something sick that you're shooting off. That's issue number two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like it would be a big, like, was it worth it? If it was a sh, like a huge, awesome gun. You get an Uzi.
I'm not a gun guy, but I still be like, okay, maybe you could talk to...

Speaker 1 That was 100% not.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it'd be cooler if he was like flexing a taser. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or a big knife. Yeah, that would have been sicker.
Or one of those gel shooters we had in the office.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, or a Nerf gun even.

Speaker 2 Actually, somebody should do that. Yeah.
Just like flex it. That sounds like something Giannis would do.
It's like remake that video, except you get a sick nerf gun.

Speaker 1 And everyone would be like, Giannis is the best.

Speaker 2 And he's so funny. We love him.
He's the man. So issue number one was the tiny little gun.

Speaker 8 This is a cute little guy.

Speaker 2 Issue number two is that he was. streaming himself live.
If you're a professional athlete, you should just never go live anywhere. There's no reason.
You're live all the time for your job.

Speaker 1 It's called playing the sport.

Speaker 2 There's no need to go live. Too much bad shit can happen when you go live.
Issue number three is...

Speaker 1 Paul Pierce.

Speaker 2 Yes. Issue number three was he had his shirt off and nobody else had their shirt off at the strip club.

Speaker 2 I don't know if Ja's confused about what happens at a strip club, but traditionally, you don't go to a strip club to take your shirt off. That's something that usually happens around you with others.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Only counterpoint on that: if I had a sick body and was as rich as John Morant and had awesome chains I spent a lot of money on, I'd probably take my shirt off a lot.

Speaker 2 I would not. I would just never wear a shirt.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So just be just be shirtless all the time.

Speaker 1 Right. But it's it's it's definitely so he's taking two games away, I believe.

Speaker 2 To work on his posting live selfies of gun addiction.

Speaker 1 He deleted his Instagram, he deleted his Twitter. What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 2 What did he do wrong? So it's been

Speaker 1 a long list of things. So

Speaker 1 it's funny because everyone, not funny, but there's been a lot of John Morant is surrounding himself with the wrong people talk.

Speaker 1 And it's really just John Morant seems like he's the wrong person right now.

Speaker 1 So he had an incident at the mall where I think his mom got in an argument with someone and then he showed up with his friends and pushed a mall security officer.

Speaker 1 He had an incident at his house where he allegedly punched a 17-year-old in the face multiple times and then also allegedly came out with a gun in his waistband, being like, not like putting his hand on it, being like, you know, but again,

Speaker 2 he might have also just been shirtless, and that's why you can see the gun. He was maybe not trying to display the gun.

Speaker 1 He had an incident

Speaker 1 where his former, I think, high school teammate, Devontae Pack, one of his best friends, basically went on the court in the Pacers game.

Speaker 1 And then afterwards, the Pacers allege that someone shined a laser that was attached to a gun in the pacers' bus.

Speaker 1 Like, they basically had like a, like a, we're coming for you after this game, and then this.

Speaker 1 So, it's been, it's one of those things where there's a lot of like small incidents where he hasn't gotten any trouble.

Speaker 1 But if you're a fan of John Morant, if you're a fan of the Grizzlies, if you're fan of the NBA, it definitely is like something's got to change. If you have, because we're going down a bad path.

Speaker 2 If there's three headlines that come out about you in the span of maybe a month and a half, two months that all involve an incident with a gun, might be time to just maybe step away from the gun life for just a little bit.

Speaker 2 And it's sad because Ja, if you look at his contract, he stands to make $300 million

Speaker 2 at the end of the season.

Speaker 2 All Ja has to do is to just not get arrested for three months. That's it.
Three months and you get $300 million.

Speaker 2 Now, if I had as much money as Ja Morant has right now and I was his age, I'd probably fuck around a lot, might get in some trouble. but he just, John Morant just needs to lock himself in a room.

Speaker 2 You can even take the rest of the year off. Right.
If you're John, I know that the Grizzlies probably would not appreciate that, but you have three months until you become a 300 millionaire.

Speaker 2 That's grandkids, grandkids, grandkids. Yes.
Grandkids' money.

Speaker 1 Yes. And it's, I brought up the

Speaker 1 line that a lot of people have been using is like, he's surrounding himself with the wrong people. I think that's a lazy take.
Like, John Morant is,

Speaker 1 I would imagine, the alpha of his friend group. He is the guy who has all this talent, who has all these things to lose.
No one else around him has all these things.

Speaker 1 Like, he can dictate his surroundings. This is,

Speaker 1 we shouldn't be like, oh man, pick better friends. Like, John Morant, you have to pick better choices.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I don't want to sound preachy because I do love watching him play basketball and he's very young. Not, you know, he's not like 18, but he is, he's got a lot of career left.

Speaker 1 Like, there's a lot of time for him to write whatever's going on right now and have it be a very small blip on his career being like, oh, yeah, remember that year that John Morant had like three gun incidents?

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's crazy.
He went to the Hall of Fame and won a bunch of titles and MVPs and everything. Like that is very much on the table and what I'm hoping happens.
But yeah, not good.

Speaker 2 So to answer your question, Billy, I don't know about what the state gun laws are in Colorado. That's where he was, Denver, right?

Speaker 2 But I know in Texas, a lot of bars have this sign up that say if like 51% of your revenue comes from alcohol, then you're not, it's a felony to carry a gun in that establishment.

Speaker 2 So different states states have different rules about like where you can bring guns i don't know what the rules are in denver it might be against the law there it might not be i don't know i'm ignorant about that but i do know that if i'm i'll even take it back if i'm john morant um

Speaker 2 just don't go live on instagram with your gun he also makes a very simple solution

Speaker 7 claim which is something they're looking into

Speaker 1 which would be a much bigger problem yeah colorado you don't need a permit to carry a handgun okay okay well you would you definitely don't need a permit to carry whatever the fuck that peace shooter was it's a strip club gun yeah he'll give it to you when you walk walk in.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 The gun was sticky. He had just retrieved it from somewhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah, imagine if it was like

Speaker 1 a fake gun to take tequila shots out of. Yeah.
They all just got confused.

Speaker 2 That's what he should do. He should be like, either it's a sex toy or it's just like a novelty gun.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, John Morant's got a, I mean, good, good first move by deleting Twitter and Instagram. That feels like a smart move.

Speaker 1 And then someone, maybe Plaxco Burris needs to sit him down and be like, hey, dude, you got a lot of money. And this is dumb.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's very very dumb. Like, he has a lot of money, but he stands to make a ton of money.

Speaker 1 A lot, lot of money. Not forget the money.
He's like one of the most talented guys in the NBA. Like, that's really what's at stake here.

Speaker 1 Is like your talent could be wasted if things go bad and you're not in the league. Yeah.
So figure it out, dude. Yeah.
Figure it out, John Morant.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Billy. Last thing on the screen.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm standing behind John Morant through these difficult times, by the way. I just want that clear.
Okay.

Speaker 1 He was a recurring guest. I think he's got to figure some things out.
I'm I'm not going easy on him, but I am hoping for a redemption arc, and I'm not going to write him off forever.

Speaker 2 You think his dad's given him that tough love? Because he said that his dad was his biggest hater. His dad should just make fun of the size of that little tiny gun.

Speaker 10 I know we joke about that, but Reply Reply Guy said that you want to carry a small gun in a strip club because if the gun's too big, when you're getting like laps, like this was on Twitter, he was like, it might go off.

Speaker 1 You might shoot the stripper.

Speaker 1 That was his strip club.

Speaker 10 Yeah, so it's like, it's a strip.

Speaker 1 That's something

Speaker 1 that's that's also a problem because if you have a strip club gun, that means you have a gun for everything.

Speaker 2 You got a golf course gun.

Speaker 1 You don't just have a strip club gun. Yeah.
That's not just like, oh, I own one gun. It's my strip club.
I only bring it to strip clubs.

Speaker 2 Car on the way to the airport gun that you have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have your practice gun. You think John Moray, your game gun,

Speaker 1 your Saturday night ABC special game gun.

Speaker 2 You think John carries a gun in his or has carried a gun in his warm-ups during pregame?

Speaker 1 I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 1 I mean, that would really be putting Adam Silver to the test. It really would.

Speaker 1 But yeah, John Morant. There was a moment on Saturday, I want to say, where John Morant and Jackson Mahomes were both trending.
And you're like, okay, so this would be one of those days.

Speaker 2 Welcome back to the internet. Yeah.
Yeah, I hope Ja figures it out, and I hope that he ⁇ this is.

Speaker 1 Will you stand behind him?

Speaker 2 I'm completely standing behind Ja. I think he's got some things that he needs to work out.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I think that it's... something that can be very easily corrected.
Correct. And that's just don't, maybe don't carry guns everywhere.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're not going to be the old men who like yell at clouts, being like, John Morant, kick him out of the league.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, I literally had an illegal gun here in New York City for like four years after the Houston Super Bowl that I finally came to my senses and took to the police station.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Ja, listen to PFT. It's not a joke, except for when PFT did it because it was a joke.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was a bit. So, Ja, maybe you just say it was a bit that you were doing.
Start a podcast. And start a podcast.
And yeah, listen, I've been in your shoes, Ja Morant.

Speaker 2 I know what it's like to be you right now.

Speaker 1 And my best advice would be to just put it in a backpack and take it to a police station and get a 200 voucher for it yes yes he needs a gun guy no no he needs a gun guy no he doesn't go wrong direction no no but but no because if you have a gun guy that means you eventually you're gonna be like hand me my hand me that gun no

Speaker 1 when he goes to the gym yeah

Speaker 1 what he needs to get a rebound for him yeah but not a not a gun guy right not a gun guy exactly he's a trainer personal chef, mental health coach, not a gun guy.

Speaker 10 Any of those could be a gun guy.

Speaker 1 No, but if you have a a gun guy, the same problem happens because the gun guy always has multiple guns. Yeah.
Like, pass me one of them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, let me, let me hold that one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 John Moran should actually just say that he's going into therapy for a gun addiction. Yeah.
He's addicted to having a gun. Holding a gun.
Not using a gun. Yeah.
Just holding it.

Speaker 10 Maybe he gets anxiety without it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That's actually a thing.

Speaker 1 It's like an emotional support gun. Yeah.
What's a Paul Pierre? I mean, Paul Pierce. He's coaching the center.

Speaker 7 I got stabbed and I carried a gun around for a while after.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 that kind of makes sense. John Moran has not been stacked.
No.

Speaker 2 I also understand the need for people that are that young and that rich to have a gun to protect themselves because they are a mark. Yeah.
They're a target.

Speaker 2 And people that you used to be friends with a long time ago and might not be friends with anymore, they might have it in for you. So I get it.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying for Ja, for the next three months, just go cold turkey off guns. No guns.

Speaker 1 No guns. You got this.

Speaker 10 Actually, you might need a gun in Memphis.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No, again.

Speaker 1 Billy sounds like he's auditioning to be one of John Morant's friends. He can just explain away everything.

Speaker 2 Hey, John, I know that you told all your friends no guns, but I know you better than they know you. And I got you.
I got you. By the way,

Speaker 1 the incident where he punched a 17-year-old kid on his basketball court,

Speaker 1 John Morant said that he was like, the police officer asked, like, who threw the first punch? He's like, well, I did, but he threw the ball and it hit me in the head.

Speaker 1 So I count that as the first punch.

Speaker 2 That is assault.

Speaker 1 Assault. Okay.
Yeah. This is again

Speaker 1 a 17-year-old kid's not a kid.

Speaker 7 No, I agree.

Speaker 1 I agree. If he's playing

Speaker 1 punched in the face, but

Speaker 7 he's like, oh, he punched a little kid.

Speaker 1 I think one punch in the face can happen on a basketball court. What was said is that there were multiple punches, even when he was down, and then going into your house to get your gun.
That feels,

Speaker 1 that's too much. I just agreed.
That's not like, hey, let's just, hey, guys, let's cool out and check up who's ball.

Speaker 2 I need to see the stats on this 17-year-old. Like, heights, that's important in this story.

Speaker 1 He's technically a minor, so they never release his name, but

Speaker 1 he was invited to a basketball game where he was playing defense against John Morant, so I guarantee he's a good basketball.

Speaker 2 Probably a big guy.

Speaker 1 Probably a guy who's probably going to be playing Division I basketball.

Speaker 2 Again, you should not hit a 17-year-old.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Usually.

Speaker 2 Unless that 17-year-old threw a ball at your head.

Speaker 1 If it was one of those fouls where you're going up and he pushes you in the back,

Speaker 1 then I think it's allowed or undercuts you yeah yeah that's ball yeah or tries to yeah it tries to get up on underneath your feet when you're shooting a three that's how people get hurt or if he grabs your knee and breaks the code all right now we're doing it now no no yeah we're you can't break away

Speaker 10 no you can't break have you played basketball with a high schooler recently i have not i'll be honest no can't say i have they like wear air pods while playing in the game it's the most annoying thing ever how many high schoolers is this one high schooler no this is like multiple and like you're trying to yell out picks and stuff and they have an air pod in while they're playing playing music music and you're like

Speaker 1 it's like they think they're but i'm like that's you know what that is that i my initial like reaction should be fuck that kid basketball's not enough and then i just think of like when i'm watching a movie and i'm just staring at my phone it's like yeah yeah you need multiple you need multiple things going on that made me feel old as hell that like young kids were doing something that i just felt so like foreign to me if we were in high school i i like to hate on those people but i would definitely be wearing an earpod or an earbud while I was playing.

Speaker 7 They didn't even have headphones when you guys were in high school.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 speaking of earpods, AirPods, Hank tried to Porsche shame me when we went to Indy because I have cord

Speaker 1 headphones. I was just surprised.

Speaker 1 The microphone is way better when you're calling people, doing radio hits, and also people don't bother you when they see the cord. And you don't lose them.
I was on a streak where I lost them.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I lost like four pairs in about three months.
It.

Speaker 2 Done. I'm on such a hot streak with my current earbuds.
Knock on wood.

Speaker 1 Knock on wood. Knock on wood.

Speaker 2 I've had him for like nine months. Knock on wood.
This is the longest I've ever kept anything in my life.

Speaker 1 So, Hank,

Speaker 1 should we talk about Anthony Richardson?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm kind of offended that this wasn't the start of the show, a once-in-a-generation talent.

Speaker 1 Showed out. Showed out.
His stats were. I don't know how you can be.

Speaker 7 I don't know how you can be a GM and not risk everything to get him number one.

Speaker 1 Broke the record for verticals for quarterbacks in the combine. So pretty crazy because he broke the record

Speaker 1 the previous eight guys. Josh Portis

Speaker 1 was second. He played at California University of Pennsylvania.
I didn't know that existed. Oh, yeah.
Penn West. Brad Smith.
So these are some Hall of Famers that he beat out.

Speaker 1 R.G.3, Tim Thibault, Nick Marshall, Tyrod Taylor, and Byron Bennett. So you can, illustrious grouping he's in.

Speaker 2 I'll say this, if you completely ignore all the times that he's played football, he's the can't miss prospect. It is great.
I do love just from a measurement standpoint.

Speaker 1 I will say that whenever there's

Speaker 1 crazy combine stats, I do like to just look at them all and be like, holy fuck, this guy. I mean, Andrew Richardson is a dude.

Speaker 2 Who's the guy from Once in a Generation Talent? Who's the guy from Georgia? I think he's from Georgia, the defensive lineman that ran like a

Speaker 2 4-3-9. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fuck that. Yeah.
Crazy. Fuck that.
We also had a 4-2-7

Speaker 1 from DJ Turner from Michigan, which is great. Like, I know that the times have been getting lower and lower, but it's still nuts whenever anyone runs.

Speaker 1 I always like my eyes pop out whenever anyone runs under a 4-4.

Speaker 8 I'm like, holy shit.

Speaker 2 Or when a fat guy breaks five. That still blows my mind.
Yes.

Speaker 2 There was also some news from, I think Rappaport tweeted out. Florida offensive tackle Richard Gorage.

Speaker 2 Richard Gorage came into the combine healthy, but woke up with a swollen ankle after a pain tolerance test created an injury, sources say.

Speaker 2 He'd been planning to do all drills, but now he won't be able to thanks to the situation caused during his medical exams. A team gave him a pain tolerance test.

Speaker 2 At first, when I read that, I was like, that seems insane to do that. But then I thought about it, and I was like, actually, yeah, like, you get hurt a lot in the NFL.

Speaker 2 I want to know what this pain tolerance test was. Like, are they poking a needle?

Speaker 1 I was going to say, okay,

Speaker 1 I didn't say this, so it's not mean for what I'm about to say. I was going to say they could have just played Billy's three-hour podcast, solo podcast, pain tolerance test.

Speaker 1 That's true, yeah, that would be a good pain tolerance. That's against the Geneva Convention.
If you are, if you are, that would be an all-time pain tolerance.

Speaker 1 Like, just sit them down, be like, all right, here, here's some headphones, and just walk out of the room and be like, what the fuck am I listening to?

Speaker 2 For pain tolerance, you do have to know if they're going to be mentally prepared to play on the Falcons. Yes.
That would be good to know going into it. Like, how much shit can you eat?

Speaker 2 Okay, yeah, the Jets can take you now.

Speaker 1 I feel like pain tolerance tests is pretty straightforward. It's like shut your finger in a car door, bang your shin on a low coffee table, step on a Lego.
Step on a Lego.

Speaker 1 These are all real pain tolerance tests that we go through.

Speaker 2 I just imagine, like, Mark Davis in the Raiders' draft room. They've just got, uh, it's like a scene from Jackass where they have a hotel room and it's just covered in mousetraps.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And in order for him to walk over and shake your hand, he has to get past all the mouse traps.

Speaker 1 Yes. It's just a, yeah, we just play jackass for a day.
Yeah. I mean, pain tolerance could also just be max out on squat and then just sit on a toilet and you have to wipe like a hundred times.

Speaker 1 Don't cry.

Speaker 2 Wait, are you standard? No, I sit. I sit to wipe.

Speaker 1 No, I'm saying, but like, you know, when your legs are just and you're just like so sore? Yeah. Yeah.
Just something like that.

Speaker 2 Pain tolerance.

Speaker 2 It does make sense, but it sucks that this guy's not going to be able to work out because some team pushed him too far. Pain tolerance.
Actually, that might be on him. He should have tapped.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You got to tap. That's on.

Speaker 1 Taps are allowed at any time. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then Bryce Young got measured. So Bryce Young,

Speaker 1 5'10 and a quarter,

Speaker 1 204.

Speaker 1 So whatever he did, it worked to get above 200.

Speaker 2 He just couldn't have a one at the start of that number.

Speaker 1 It was basically his agent and nutritionist were like, if we can just get to the exact same height and weight as Kyler Murray, people will just say, oh, he's Kyler Murray, even though we watched him play and he did not play at 204 pounds.

Speaker 1 No, and they're also, they're very different quarterbacks in how they play the games.

Speaker 2 But I did, I actually ran the BMI on Bryce Young for his exact height and weight. 29.3.

Speaker 2 He's borderline obese. Yeah.
He's too fat to draft.

Speaker 2 This guy's a tub of shit.

Speaker 1 How pumped must he have been when he got off that scale? He's like, oh, I don't have to eat 100, like 10,000 calories a day. Oh, that

Speaker 1 three gallons of water I chug before I got on here.

Speaker 2 He probably sprinted to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Just ran to go take a piss. They were probably feeding him, like force feeding him, like a goose that you're trying to turn into foag rob before for this weigh in.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Just drink all the water, probably eat dessert for breakfast.

Speaker 1 Sounds like my life.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would be really good at loading up for the combine. I would.
This would be my pre-combine preparation would be where I would truly excel to try to gain.

Speaker 2 If they gave you two weeks, how much weight do you think you could put on it? Because I think I could, realistically, huge. I think I could put on 25 pounds in two weeks.

Speaker 1 I think you could put on 30 plus, no problem. Yeah.
No problem. Dude, today,

Speaker 1 I took my kids to the ice cream museum at 10 a.m. And we got like through the first door, and they started handing us free ice cream.
And I was like, shit, why did I do 10 a.m.

Speaker 1 for the ice cream museum? It was an ice cream. What the museum? Yeah, it's awesome.
The history of ice cream.

Speaker 2 It sounds like something that a parent would make up to their kids, like, hey, if you get straight A's, we're going to the ice cream museum.

Speaker 1 You guys should check it out. It actually, like, it ruled.
But yeah.

Speaker 2 No disrespect, but how fat.

Speaker 7 You just dragged your kids along with you?

Speaker 1 No, there was a lot of kid-friendly shit. There was a whole pool of sprinkles.

Speaker 2 How they got to jump in?

Speaker 1 How fat they got plastic with the other parents that were jumped in?

Speaker 2 That were taking their kids to the ice cream museum.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 everyone was fine. Everyone was fine.
Because I'm a fan of many fat people.

Speaker 2 I'm a fan of a lot of things, but I don't know that I go to museums for them.

Speaker 1 No, the ice cream museum. I'll have some people backing me up.
Listen, there was one guy, one dad.

Speaker 1 I always have these moments when I'm out at these things, and one dad was like, hey, man, like, just getting through it. Love your work.
And I was like, thanks, bro.

Speaker 2 That's nice. We used to dream.
We used to work. We're in the dream.

Speaker 1 I'm at the ice cream museum at 10 a.m.

Speaker 2 We used to work right next door to the Museum of Sex in

Speaker 2 HQ2. Yeah.
But even being a horny guy, the fact that the word museum was on there kept me away from it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I had

Speaker 1 four cups.

Speaker 1 It was all free after you got. I mean, the tickets were expensive, but then it was free.

Speaker 2 This is actually genius. All-inclusive ice cream.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Tickets are expensive.
Was it interactive? It was very interactive. Good.
It was extremely interactive. History of ice cream.
I would go to a queso.

Speaker 1 I know facts you guys don't fucking know anymore.

Speaker 2 I would go to a queso museum.

Speaker 1 When was it invented? History of ice cream. Oh, the ice cream? Like, it was like, I didn't read any of this shit.
It was like 600 or something.

Speaker 2 That's like the one thing that you should learn at the ice cream museum.

Speaker 1 The Carvell guy invented soft serve.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 What's the most ice cream anybody's ever eaten?

Speaker 1 Probably me at the History of Ice Cream Museum because it wasn't four.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was a bathroom. I lied about that.
It was a bathroom situation at the Ice Museum.

Speaker 7 How many rooms were there?

Speaker 7 There was a shitload of rooms. So that's how much ice cream was.
It was fun.

Speaker 1 You guys should go. Don't hate it.

Speaker 2 I'm not hating it. It's just very funny that you're like, I took my kids to the ice cream museum at 10 a.m.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that part was a mistake, but it's when it opens. So I was like, fuck it.
Let's go. But yeah, Bryce Young should go to the ice cream museum.
He keeps that 204 on.

Speaker 10 I've always argued ice cream should be a breakfast staple.

Speaker 1 Agreed. It's

Speaker 1 any time.

Speaker 10 It's way better than like these sugary cereals, and it's got way more protein and stuff, like milk.

Speaker 8 It's healthy.

Speaker 2 You ever eat the fake low-carb ice cream?

Speaker 1 No. It's gross.

Speaker 2 It's really gross.

Speaker 1 Halo top.

Speaker 2 I had an idea a couple years ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I bet you do.

Speaker 1 Makes you not feel guilty. Oh, shut up.

Speaker 2 I had an idea a couple years ago that was

Speaker 2 just to sell like healthy ice cream, and then it was just full ice cream, but nobody would ever know because you wouldn't list that on the nutrition.

Speaker 2 You'd be like, no, it's totally healthy, low sugar, but just make it full-blown absolute custard that you're selling. But then somebody told me that Seinfeld invented it.

Speaker 1 It was a Seinfeld episode, yeah. Where they all were gaining weights, weight with the frozen yogurt.
Yeah. But yeah, check out.
I'm giving stamp of approval. History of Ice Cream Museum.

Speaker 1 Okay. Anything else that we missed this weekend?

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Suns beat the Mavs.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 And then Luca at the end, this is an all-time quote from Luca Doncic.

Speaker 2 He was mad that Kevin Durant waited until the last second to talk trash to him. Yeah.
Once the Suns took the lead, which is, you typically do talk trash when you have it.

Speaker 2 I guess his thing was like, it takes a real man to talk shit when you're losing. Yeah.
Which, I guess, fair point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but yeah, I mean, why wouldn't you? They took the lead and he missed. Luca missed an easy layup.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Talk some shit. But I mean, I don't think most people don't talk shit when they're losing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Pat Pev probably talks about.
Pat Bev definitely does.

Speaker 2 Pev probably talks more shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Luca and Devin Booker almost kissed.

Speaker 1 It was a very odd standoff where they both were smiling.

Speaker 1 But Luca does have it. I know Kevin Durant's now on the Suns, but he did bounce him from the playoffs last year.

Speaker 1 So he does kind of have that over them.

Speaker 2 I'm all in on these Suns.

Speaker 1 I am. I am.
Chris Paul.

Speaker 2 Getting that shift this year.

Speaker 1 Chris Paul had a real insult tweet. Hold on, let me see if I can find it about

Speaker 1 where the Suns are at as a team. Hold on.
It was. So after the game.
Yeah, here it is. It's from Bobby Marks, who I think works for ESPN, very smart guy, NBA front office,

Speaker 1 like insider. He said, fourth quarter for Chris Paul and Ish Wainwright, 14 points, four for six from three.

Speaker 1 As great as Kevin Durant and Devin Booker are, this team sinks or swims based on the rest of the roster. So Chris Paul and Ish Wainwright are now the same

Speaker 1 guy. Yeah.
It's tough.

Speaker 2 You can't do it all by yourself.

Speaker 2 Sometimes you need Ish.

Speaker 1 It's also just a very funny thing to say because, like, yeah,

Speaker 1 breaking news, your two best players can't score all the points.

Speaker 2 But they can try, and they sometimes almost can.

Speaker 1 The game was close because Tim Hardaway went nuclear from three at the beginning of the game.

Speaker 2 Well, an ish in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I'm saying on the Mavs side. So every team has this.
Yeah. You have the other guys to score a little.

Speaker 2 You have other players on the team that contribute for sure. Yeah.
I just, I don't see a way that Chris Paul loses this year. I don't see it.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 so that was going to be my who's back. Is the NBA just doing a really good job with these marquee matchups now that we're out of football season?

Speaker 1 Because Max, max saturday night the the the sixers hank would you like to say thank you oh

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 why

Speaker 1 because the sixers beat the bucks oh and the bucks and the celtics are fighting for the for the one season and it was a great comeback james harden what i think james hardened 38 38 yeah it was you want to say thanks no at all no either way these marquee matchups like i watched that whole game it was awesome same so good job by the nba Okay.

Speaker 2 You're losing to the Knicks right now.

Speaker 7 I know. Okay.

Speaker 5 PFT, I'm sorry to say James Madison has been eliminated.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 2 all right. The 30-year drought continues.

Speaker 5 South Alabama, the eighth seed, is going to move on to the championship.

Speaker 2 It's bullshit that their initials are USA, and the crowd chants USA for them.

Speaker 5 You can't root either. 75-66 Jaguars.

Speaker 2 Tough, tough break. Always next year for the Dukes.
No pizza party, though. So I save a couple thousand bucks.

Speaker 1 Can I say something real quick? I bet on South Alabama Alabama because you bet on Purdue. Okay, whatever.
It was a revenge bet for me. All right, whatever.
I see Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 I support your bets.

Speaker 1 I didn't say till after. Yeah.
But you did bet on Purdue when Wisconsin had to win that game.

Speaker 2 I also bet on the Eagles.

Speaker 1 They had to win that game.

Speaker 2 I also bet on the Eagles. No, you didn't, Hank.

Speaker 1 Shut up.

Speaker 1 You did.

Speaker 1 No, you didn't. I did.
Yeah, Hank puts

Speaker 1 $3. $3 future.
Yeah. I did want James Madison, although you said, what if we just play in the NIT, Wisconsin versus James Madison?

Speaker 2 So I think that Jamie, would have had to win this game and then probably play a great game in the finals and lose to even Peakinson.

Speaker 1 That's bullshit. The NIT.
What about CBI? We couldn't beat in the CBI.

Speaker 2 That would actually be very good.

Speaker 1 We're losing to Minnesota right now. That could be CBI.

Speaker 2 You're getting into the NIT. There's a rule.

Speaker 5 You're a mid-major one seed and you get bounced, you're an auto-bid to the NIT. So Southern Miss.

Speaker 2 They're taking that from us. They're going to be in the NIT.
That's a bad rule. Damn, that is a bad rule.
Let the kids play it out on the court. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's CIT. Wisconsin might not even make the CBI.

Speaker 2 That'd be great, though, if we played in the CBI. What a game.

Speaker 1 I love the CBI.

Speaker 1 I bet the CBI all the time.

Speaker 2 Was that the one that the trophy used to be a pineapple?

Speaker 2 I can't remember. That might have been the other one, the JV CBI.

Speaker 1 I think the CBI and the CIT are the two tournaments where I can confidently say I've bet on almost every game, and I think I've watched none of them.

Speaker 1 I don't have any memories of watching a CBI game. Betting on them, yes.
Updating a score app, yes.

Speaker 1 CBI and CIT, shout out.

Speaker 2 The golden pineapple. There it is.
The golden pineapple.

Speaker 2 Wait, that might be a rivalry trophy in college football.

Speaker 2 There was a pineapple. There was a pineapple trophy.
Trust me on that one.

Speaker 1 I trust you. Okay.
I trust your memory. Bonk.
Fuck yeah.

Speaker 7 I was about to say, isn't that a bonk? Yeah, that's a bonk.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 1 Just is. Hank, did you ever bonk yourself?

Speaker 2 Bonks are out of control right now.

Speaker 1 What happened? What did we... Hank had a bonk off air that he had to do, and he forgot.
What was it? Fuck. This is going to kill me.
Was Hank in the morning? In Indy.

Speaker 1 God damn it. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Hank's a big fan of the K-Addams show.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right.
He's a big fan of the K-Adams.

Speaker 1 He got, yeah, you told us all about it, how you watch it all. You watched literally four hours of it once.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then

Speaker 2 Hank said that Pete made him watch it, and that's why he was watching for homework.

Speaker 1 And then I texted Pete and I was like, Pete is born.

Speaker 1 Did you tell Hank to watch this?

Speaker 2 This is crazy. And Pete was afraid I was mad at him because you were watching a competitor's live stream.

Speaker 2 And I was like, no, Hank just told me that you told him to watch it. He's like, oh, no, absolutely not.
That didn't happen.

Speaker 1 Just be on the lookout because Kay Adams will usually retweet like a few dudes being like, hey, Kay, you look awesome today. That's probably Hank's burden.

Speaker 2 Yeah, always. Like when it's the egg accounts, it's just a picture from across a room of Kay Adams.

Speaker 1 Eight in the morning, like, oh, you look so hot talking football. That's Hank.
Yep.

Speaker 7 This is one of the more outrageous twisting of words that I've been a part of. And I won't forget it.

Speaker 1 I won't forget it. Oh, you won't.
It's not. What are you going to do?

Speaker 2 Hank, I eat shit all the time because you guys bogusly claim that I'm horny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the pineapple doesn't work.

Speaker 7 Did I even make up things that you said and then repeat them as if they're fact?

Speaker 2 Did you or did you not sit down and watch a K-Adams show?

Speaker 1 Everything we said was a direct quote.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, that's not true.

Speaker 1 But that's fine.

Speaker 1 How many hours straight did you watch a K-Adams show? Zero.

Speaker 1 That's a lie.

Speaker 2 I noticed that when I declared my masturbation strike against Dan Snyder, you did not say I'll match.

Speaker 7 I did not.

Speaker 1 Also, a little cleanup on the Schefter show on Friday. Hank

Speaker 1 did bet a commander's future. Yeah.
That sucks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Great interview, by the way. Great interview with.
That sucked.

Speaker 1 To win the Super Bowl? No, left hand up. To win the Super Bowl.
What if it happens? To win the Super Bowl. Oh, no.

Speaker 2 What if it happens, though, Hank, and we're geniuses, and then everything's happy?

Speaker 7 If there ever a cash out pops up, I'm cashing out.

Speaker 1 Well, you have to be in Indiana. Oh, great.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 2 Hey, hey, crazier things have happened. It's kind of nice to get one surefire loss out of the way before the season even starts, though.

Speaker 1 Just flush it out of your system.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just let's get one out of here. I know I'm probably going to lose week one anyways.

Speaker 1 Let's get one out of the 12-bit. That's not a big deal.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's do who's back.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 who's back of the week?

Speaker 7 Oh, we just fired through all mine. I had, I had John Jones, Anthony Richardson, John Morant.
But I will say those golf, the golf club covers are on sale. They're very, very nice.
Mountains are blue.

Speaker 1 I've only seen it. Visors also.

Speaker 5 Straight drives only with that cover. It's crazy.

Speaker 7 First time you've ever sold visors. Sold visors.

Speaker 2 I love the visor.

Speaker 7 PFT tried to say he's never worn a visor before, which is just

Speaker 7 an inaccurate statement.

Speaker 2 I couldn't remember a time that I've ever worn a visor before.

Speaker 1 Was I?

Speaker 2 You have visor face. Sparcel sports visors.
Yeah. I like it.

Speaker 2 I did wear a visor when we were with Marlin's Man at the All-Star Game. You guys pointed that out.
But besides that, I don't think I've ever worn a visor. It looks great.

Speaker 2 It's just something that I've never gotten into. Maybe I'm a visor guy.
Although, as my hair gets thinner, I am going to need some top.

Speaker 2 What if you made a visor that had a full top enclosed on it, though?

Speaker 5 They definitely like Guy Fiery.

Speaker 2 I think you're wearing that. It's called a hat.
Yeah. I might be a hat guy.

Speaker 5 You're a hat guy. I'm a hat guy.

Speaker 1 Is that it? That's it.

Speaker 2 All right, My Who's Back of the Week. I'm going to need...
This is a team effort.

Speaker 1 This is a team effort.

Speaker 2 Need your support. And AWLs, I need your support as well.
My Who's Back of the Week is Leroy. Yes.
The breaking news dog. Yes.
My old dog, R.I.P Leroy, passed away about two years ago.

Speaker 2 He was our insider here on part of my take. He broke some pretty big news stories stories and scooped the big J's on a number of them.
Schefter poked the bear when he fucked with us on Friday's show.

Speaker 2 When he tried to pull the wool over our eyes and pretend that Lamar Jackson was going to the commanders, I was perfectly fine leaving Leroy on the sidelines, and then whenever I get a new dog, maybe that dog can learn how to break news too.

Speaker 2 But fuck you, Schefter. You've made a powerful enemy in Leroy.
I reactivated his account. It's the ghost of Leroy.

Speaker 2 So now my dead dog, we're making it a mission for my dead dog to beat Schefter on at least two scoops this upcoming free agency season.

Speaker 7 Don't send him fake scoops.

Speaker 2 Do not do that.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm saying. It's a team effort, Hank.
We want this to be a success. And he's good at figuring out fake scoops.
So he's at Leroy Insider.

Speaker 2 And the beauty of this show is we have so many people that work in like semi-related capacities to some of these transactions that are going on that we have, he's got like a 60-40 track record in putting out good scoops, which is that's not bad.

Speaker 2 It's better than throwing darts at a dartboard. So Leroy's back.
He's going to try to break the Aaron Rodgers news.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 2 He should just break the Aaron Rodgers. We should just say he's coming back to the Packers.
Yeah. And then it's like 50-50 that'll be right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 What's the downside?

Speaker 2 There's none. Right.
Because who cares if my dead dog was wrong about something?

Speaker 1 And if the upside is incredible.

Speaker 2 Is a dead dog scooped the entire NFL on this?

Speaker 2 Leroy was fond of a darkness retreat.

Speaker 1 He was blind.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 2 Leroy is first to report.

Speaker 2 Adam Schefter is late on this news.

Speaker 2 Aaron Rodgers is returning to the Green Bay Packers for the upcoming season. Damn it.

Speaker 2 I have to respect it.

Speaker 1 This ruins. I'm sorry.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 He cares about one thing, the truth.

Speaker 6 Damn.

Speaker 1 All right. Welcome back.

Speaker 1 We got to fuck Schefter.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're going to fuck him good. Right in the fucking.

Speaker 2 I'm going to come.

Speaker 1 Right in his eye. I'm going to come.
Yeah. We're also going to play golf with Schefter, which is going to be very funny.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like further cleanup on that interview. I can genuinely say I like Adam Schaffter.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like him a lot.

Speaker 2 He's a great guy. Yes.

Speaker 1 No, and I also like the fact that we can give him shit.

Speaker 1 Like, between now and next year's Combine, he will do something that I will make fun of him for and like drag him for, and he won't take it personal. No, he won't.

Speaker 1 That's like the perfect pardon-my take relationship. Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, my who's back of the week. It was going to be the NBA because the NBA is very back.
Also, check out this shirt if you're watching on YouTube.

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Make your free throws, attack the rim, run the floor, close out, hit your jumpers, and remember they're just kids. Because remember, they are just kids.

Speaker 1 But my who's back of the week is Travis Kelsey and SNL. I didn't watch, but I saw a clip.
Yeah, I saw it. And I laughed.
I saw a couple clips, too. I laughed at the

Speaker 1 clip. I thought it was funny.

Speaker 2 There was a skit that was, I think, cut because of, I don't know, when they run long because it's a live show.

Speaker 2 It was

Speaker 2 guys that you can hire to pick up your girlfriend.

Speaker 1 Oh, that didn't make it in the show? That was the clip I saw.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, that was funny. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So the best part of the show didn't even air. Oh, okay.
So

Speaker 2 girls that want to be like picked up and thrown around by their boyfriends, if you're dating a small guy, Travis Kelsey will come over to your house and just throw you onto a counter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like I hate the

Speaker 1 sports on bro. What are you watching people?

Speaker 1 But when people were tweeting about Travis Kelsey last night, while the UFC had a great card and Max ruined the UCLA season, I was like, what are we doing, guys?

Speaker 8 There's sports on. There's sports on.
There's sports on right now.

Speaker 2 We can watch this later. Unless you have seven screens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Well, I'll see the highlights later.

Speaker 2 I put SNL on mute and then I just judge it based on that.

Speaker 1 Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 Bad show.

Speaker 8 Yes. But yeah,

Speaker 1 the clip I saw seemed funny.

Speaker 2 Oh, we didn't talk at all about Tom Brady. Did you see the picture of Tom Brady? Is he okay, Hank?

Speaker 2 I'm worried about Tom Brady. He's going to have a

Speaker 1 retirement.

Speaker 1 Good? Come on, Hank.

Speaker 2 I mean, he's trying to step on our toes in the stand-up comedy arena.

Speaker 2 I guess that's kind of our toes.

Speaker 2 You're getting into the plastic surgery world.

Speaker 1 You're next. No, you can't.

Speaker 2 Well, it's cool sculpting, Hank. It's not plastic.

Speaker 1 But you can't judge.

Speaker 2 I'm not judging. I'm worried.

Speaker 1 He looked gaunt.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I like Tom Brady now, but

Speaker 2 he looks like he's sick.

Speaker 1 I thought he looked great. How skinny skinny can he get?

Speaker 2 We'll find out. He's doing a reverse Bryce Young.
Yeah, we'll find out.

Speaker 1 Let him enjoy retirement. Okay, is he?

Speaker 7 Doesn't that what offensive linemen do?

Speaker 1 That's really skinny. Yeah, that's true.
That's a good point. That's true.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 10 My who's back is O.J.

Speaker 2 Simpson.

Speaker 1 Oh, great. Uh-oh.

Speaker 10 O.J. Simpson was kind enough to weigh in on the Alec Murdoch trials, who just got in.

Speaker 1 Isn't it Murdoch? Murdaugh.

Speaker 10 It's pronounced like a thousand different ways.

Speaker 1 It's not just Alec or Alec. It's Alec, Murdaw.

Speaker 2 And sometimes it's Alec.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it's like different accents.

Speaker 1 It's really weird. It's spelled with an X.
I know, but they say. But they say Alec.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Alec murder. That picture.

Speaker 1 I wanted him to cry. Yeah.
I was mad he didn't cry.

Speaker 8 He doesn't have a soul.

Speaker 1 I like guys.

Speaker 1 I want my

Speaker 1 double homicide people to cry.

Speaker 2 Yeah, his strategy, his defense strategy was like, show up looking as ill as possible.

Speaker 2 So you know how they tell women when they go on trial, like put some, dye your hair as dark as you can and then put on glasses to make you look like a librarian.

Speaker 2 With him, he was like, I'm just going to put on a mask and just be as gaunt as possible.

Speaker 1 He also, the defense strategy of all those other things I did or that you're accusing me of, I did. I didn't kill

Speaker 1 my wife and son. Yeah, how? Yeah, like all the extortion, all the

Speaker 1 financial malfeasance, all those other crimes, hand up. That was me.
And you know what?

Speaker 2 The big one you're saying, I didn't do that. I do have a history of hiring hitmen, but in the past, I've only used them to kill me.
Yeah, right, right. Jesus.
But yeah, what'd OJ say?

Speaker 10 OJ was just talking about how the judicial system works and basically how he could get off.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And it was just, it was like one of those, like, remember when Nate Oates contacted Ray Lewis? Yeah. It was like, what, like, what the hell? This is like a simulation.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I can't believe the ball is on OJ. To just like to go online with a video of like, here's my advice if you're accused of a double homicide.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I guess he was

Speaker 1 not guilty. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good who's back? Uh, Jake.

Speaker 5 Uh, my who's back is boomers. Football season might be over, but we have a best of boomers coming out on YouTube, I believe, on Tuesday.
So subscribe, check it out.

Speaker 5 Uh, the behind-the-scenes crew. Love it.
Did a great job with that. Can't wait to see what they picked.

Speaker 1 Love it.

Speaker 13 Uh, also, who's back is going to the final four because Syracuse is in the final four for the barstool best bar tournament snoop stakes.

Speaker 1 Are they going to win an ACC tournament game?

Speaker 12 Uh, maybe. They got Wake.
They beat Wake yesterday.

Speaker 1 Now, is Jim Boeheim going to not retire?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 5 But they're going to Greensboro, and I believe he's made some comments about Greensboro before.

Speaker 7 Yeah. What?

Speaker 2 Just like. He hates it.

Speaker 1 He hates Greensboro.

Speaker 1 Those are the comments. I'm a Greensboro guy.

Speaker 12 I don't think he likes the tournament there.

Speaker 1 I think Jim Boeheim is at the age where he hates anything that's just not his own home.

Speaker 2 I'm a Greensboro guy. I take that as disrespect.
My family's from Greensboro. You better step the fuck off, Jim Boeheim.

Speaker 2 Is he still talking about how everyone's figured out his zone and how he's still not going to change it?

Speaker 5 Hey, they've been to the Sweet 16 of the last six years.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, you're doing what... No, don't do that.
You sound like Jim Bayheim apologizes. Here's the thing.
The standard is higher at Syracuse.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the teams that don't see it all the time,

Speaker 5 they're not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the ACC tournament. Yeah, that's probably not.
Yeah, that'll be tough.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think they've won like one or two ACC tournament games in like 10 years.

Speaker 2 Wait, am I crazy? Didn't they move the ACC tournament away from Greensboro?

Speaker 1 No, Greensboro, Brooklyn, Charlotte.

Speaker 2 Okay, but they're keeping it in the rotation.

Speaker 1 ATAN sometimes does Brooklyn. Like this year, the ATAN's in Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 It should always be in Greensboro. It was always in Greensboro.
That's where the ACC tournament's played. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So that's

Speaker 1 barbecue.

Speaker 13 But Sircuse is in the Final Four. Hashtag Sirkuse BBT.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 What bar?

Speaker 5 It's just the bar towns this year.

Speaker 2 Oh, the best bar town. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 How many bars did you go to in college?

Speaker 5 There was a rotation of like three or four.

Speaker 2 Would Would you say it's an elite bartown? Of course.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Good waters?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 13 The coldest waters. The coldest waters.

Speaker 2 Coarslight in the state of waters.

Speaker 1 Coarslight, water, all the time. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Thank you, Jake.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on very special guests. It is the Chicago Bears Brain Trust.
Can I say it's the Brain Trust?

Speaker 2 No Brain Trust.

Speaker 1 No, you guys are the Brain Trust. It is Ryan Paul's, GM, and head coach Matt Eberflues.
We're in Indy, ready to go. We've got a lot to get to, but I wanted to bring up something before we start.

Speaker 1 So we've been doing this show for seven years now. This is the earliest we've ever woken up for an interview.
It's 8 a.m. Yep.

Speaker 1 So I know you guys are in full combine mode of like judging the character of a man and like their get-off and their determination. What does that say about us that we're up this?

Speaker 1 Because like you don't understand, this is the early, like we don't get up this early for interviews. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I would say that it means a lot to us.

Speaker 6 I mean, you guys,

Speaker 6 you know, the dedication for you guys to get up. You know, I know you guys went to bed at two in the morning, so man, it is really important to us that you guys have done this for us.

Speaker 2 Okay. We had a big dinner last night.

Speaker 1 Oh, you did?

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're still digesting it right now. But you know what?

Speaker 2 It's, you know, dealing with a little adversity right now. You got to demonstrate some grit

Speaker 2 and overcome that. So, yeah, I mean, waking up at 7 o'clock in the morning is as big of a compliment as we can pay to anybody, probably.

Speaker 1 Yes. Agreed.
Yeah. I think when Brandon hit me up, I was just like, any other time? Like, literally any other time.

Speaker 1 So we're here. We're ready to go.
You guys obviously are the talk of the town because number one pick.

Speaker 1 Let's start here. How many smoke screens should we put out right now?

Speaker 1 Are we still in smokescreen season or once Schefter says the number one pick is on the table, smokescreen season is over it's not over yet okay yeah just we can keep so that thing you were telling me about the raiders before that was true we're not supposed to talk about that well no I mean that's smokescreen okay yeah yeah right I'm not sure

Speaker 1 or is it not right right okay see I just got

Speaker 1 no I got a buddy the waters for this so I like

Speaker 1 how does it work when you when it gets announced like hey number one picks for sale

Speaker 1 you immediately start getting calls or was this something everyone's been talking and it's fluid the whole time yeah it's been fluid the whole time and it kind of just builds up.

Speaker 1 You know, obviously, you know, when everyone gets together, you know, in Indy, that's where people start talking. So it's heating up pretty good, and I think we're in a good position.

Speaker 2 How many times have you guys watched Draft Day?

Speaker 1 Zero. Oh,

Speaker 2 you haven't watched Draft Day?

Speaker 1 I watched pieces of it, but not the whole thing.

Speaker 2 If I were in your, this is probably why you're successful and I'm not a general manager, is I would just sit down and do all my prep by watching Kevin Costa from Draft Day. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 But I have heard that you guys are, you you know, you're having fun interviews with people. You're bringing them into, are you in a hotel room? You got like a suite set up, you're playing putt-putt.

Speaker 6 It's over at Lucas Oil in the suites.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, the lower suites there.

Speaker 2 So who's the best at putt-putt?

Speaker 1 This guy right here.

Speaker 6 Okay. Ian Cunningham made a bomb yesterday, just so you know.
I mean, it was unbelievable.

Speaker 6 Now, we certainly practiced, of course, but we give the players, you know, three putts at it, and the coach only gets one.

Speaker 2 What are you looking for? Do you want a player to be good at putt-putt? Because me personally, I would not want a player to be really good at putt-putt.

Speaker 6 Well, it depends. You know, the skill players are pretty good at it.
You know, quarterbacks all play golf. You know, a lot of the receivers surprisingly play golf.

Speaker 6 So it was all the big guys always pick darts. You know, they're like, hey, man, give me some darts.
And then they find out it's like double the length.

Speaker 6 You know, it's not a normal, I mean, it's a long, it's a bomb shot.

Speaker 1 So when you're watching that,

Speaker 1 are you looking for someone who gets like upset if they miss it? Like, I would.

Speaker 1 If I were being drafted, I would go in there, I'd miss it, and I'd be like, motherfucker, throw this thing, and maybe be like, I got to control my emotion more, but man, do I play with some edge?

Speaker 1 Like, I would just say that.

Speaker 6 You can see some competitiveness in there with those guys for sure, especially when I say, oh, it's tied now. Who's going to win? And then we always throw that in there and one more shot.

Speaker 2 So, what are the options that you put out for him? It's putt-putt, darts, and what else?

Speaker 1 That's it right now. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 We only got two.

Speaker 1 What you want to do about two minutes? Should we add two? Twister? Yeah, maybe you had a twister with a little bit of a little bit of a little twister, huh? She got the flexibility.

Speaker 1 I think that's a little odd.

Speaker 1 That's a little odd. I'm thinking outside the box here.

Speaker 2 Between the two of you, who has final say?

Speaker 1 On what?

Speaker 2 On a draft pick. Who has final say? Right here.
Yeah. Well, you just had final say on that question.

Speaker 1 Oh. On the games?

Speaker 1 You just gave you awarded him final say.

Speaker 2 So wouldn't you say that you technically have final say? That's true.

Speaker 1 You gave him final say, so essentially you do. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, really, the cool thing is

Speaker 1 we...

Speaker 1 We don't really have to worry about that much. Our relationship's awesome, and we work through this together because it's that kind of partnership you got to have.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because we want to be on the same page and we talk about developing players all the time. And I think if everyone's on board, you're getting buy-in all the way across the organization.

Speaker 6 Right. And the biggest thing with that is that we've spent so many hours and so much time talking about the profile of the player by position.
You know, so him and I talk about this all the time.

Speaker 6 We see it eye to eye in terms of what we want to have at each position.

Speaker 6 What the traits are, what the makeup of the man is. And that's so important to be on the same page.

Speaker 1 And we've spent you know we're and we continue to do it yeah doing it yesterday you know talking about that so it's a it's an important piece to it is there one specific trait that you would say trumps everything is it maybe intelligence speed like is there one that it's it's kind of like a baseline we need this to even go to the next part of this evaluation yeah it's for us it's passion for the game and that's the cool thing about these interviews is kind of once you you know break the ice with you know the darts and the puppet and guys sit down and you throw the film on you see this body language from the guys that it's like different.

Speaker 1 They get to the edge of their seat and they see the play and they're like, damn it.

Speaker 1 Why did you pick this play? Like, you know what play this is? We didn't even hit start yet. Right.
Like, yeah, I got beat on this play. I wish I had that one back.

Speaker 1 Where there's other guys where it's like,

Speaker 1 you know, just kind of

Speaker 1 no emotions there. So the guys that get to the edge of the seat, they show it, you feel it.
You're like, all right, jump in the car, let's go back to Chicago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I like that answer because when you talk to, you know, we get to talk to a lot of of players, a lot of successful players, and a lot of it is like, you have to love football to a point because you're going to have to eat some shit and do some things and play through some injuries.

Speaker 1 So can you, has anyone in your evaluation career,

Speaker 1 you don't have to name names, but has anyone able to been able to like fake loving football in those moments? And then you're like, you get them on the team, you're like, shit.

Speaker 6 I would say this, there's no faking when you're playing. Right.
You know, so we always judge the number. So we look at the tape.
The tape tells us passion. The tape tells us love.

Speaker 6 You know, and then we can figure out, hey, because we want you, you know, if you love football, you're going to practice that way too. Yeah.
Just shut it on and off, you know, during game time. So

Speaker 6 that's how we do all the investigative work

Speaker 6 that the scouts do and spend the whole year doing. And then we're going to do that now and we go to the pro days and all that.
So

Speaker 6 it's always on the tape. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Were you guys watching the Colts Texans game live? I forget if you were playing at that time.

Speaker 1 No, we were playing. Yeah, we were playing at the Texas.
We were in a locker room.

Speaker 2 Did you go back and watch the end of that game and you're like, holy shit, that's incredible.

Speaker 1 You know, it's funny, like, all that was going on. I kind of got, I was told that that's what happened.
And I've talked about this before.

Speaker 1 I wasn't really in the mood to go there yet because it's still a weird thing, right? Like, you don't want to be the first pick. It's a cool opportunity.

Speaker 1 Now, you'd rather be the first and second to disagree. But at the moment.
Disagree. Listen, I'll give you a little tip.
I'll give you a little tip.

Speaker 1 There is only one team that can win a Super Bowl. Everyone else is a loser

Speaker 1 except the team that has the first pick. We are literally the second best team because we're the only other team that took something away from this season.
There's the first pick in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 That's it. But you've lost to get into that.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 We don't worry about how we got there. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 Once you close the book, that was just a message. Don't worry about that part.
Only two people are walking away with something in their back pocket. One's got a ring, one's got the first pick.

Speaker 1 That's not bad. Yeah, I'm not buying it.
I'm not buying that. Listen, you can take my phone number, and whenever you need a spin zone, I'll just whip one right out of the other.

Speaker 7 Like, I got it.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so that happens, and then are you immediately like, okay, this is, we did not expect this to happen because it was, like, the Bears weren't,

Speaker 1 it never felt like, like, you kind of figured out the one pick like sometime in December, but it wasn't some of these teams, you know, early on in the season, it's like, they're going to be the one pick.

Speaker 1 Like, that's what's happening. Yeah.
Yeah. It was crazy how that played out because it wasn't until 12, 24 hours after I was watching the play.
I'm like, holy crap. Yeah.
Insane how it happened. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was awesome.

Speaker 2 Caught everybody by surprise.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was a lot, a lot, a lot of fun. All right, so let's talk about the the first pick.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you brought a pen and

Speaker 1 paper, but I have some thoughts.

Speaker 1 Let me hear them. I ran a mock draft.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to rip through it real quick and let you know what I'm able to do and see if you can get up to my standard.

Speaker 1 So, first pick was traded to the Texans for pick 212.33 and two first-rounders next year. Wow.

Speaker 1 Then we traded the two-pick that we got from the Texans to the Seahawks for pick 520 and a first rounder next year. Then the five pick to the Falcons for 844 and a first rounder next year.

Speaker 1 And then the eight pick to the Lions for 18 and a first rounder next year. So I ended up with six first rounders next year.
Can you think, like, it's not that hard? It's not.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 Just keep going, keep trading, keep going.

Speaker 1 Is there a cap on how many trades you're willing to

Speaker 1 love it? Yeah. Just keep trading.
Get them all. Get all the picks.
Every pick. Yes.
Yes. Just for two years.
Get all the picks.

Speaker 1 But is there like I, this is a very stupid question because we're just dumb fans, but

Speaker 1 like there is a part of us of fans that like watch and be like, maybe just keep getting picks and keep trading down.

Speaker 1 There's got to be a point where you're like, hey, we actually need players on the team. Correct.

Speaker 1 Correct. Yeah.
Yeah. It's it's a it's a balance of it, right? Like you want to have opportunity, but at the same time,

Speaker 1 you do, um,

Speaker 1 you put the players and the evaluations in these value buckets, right? So you want to be able to play that game to say, I have this many guys at this level that can impact our team in this round.

Speaker 1 All right, that's how far we can go back. So you have to put that into the equation as well.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I had a red flag that came up. I did my research on you guys, much like you look at prospects that are coming in.
Big red flag on this side of the table for you, Mr.

Speaker 6 Poles.

Speaker 1 Okay, what do you got?

Speaker 2 Your LinkedIn profile still says that you're on the Kansas City Chiefs. Oh, no.
Are you not all in on the Bears? Oh, no. Attention to detail matters in this league, Mr.

Speaker 1 Poles. Yeah, I don't log into that account much.

Speaker 2 Oh, well, maybe you should because it's very confusing. There might be some, another GM might, you know, fire up LinkedIn and be like, I want to, I want to get you.

Speaker 1 Did you find me on there, LinkedIn? I didn't find you on there.

Speaker 1 I know. Exactly.
Do you have a profile? Yeah, yeah. You're all business.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, you're a football coach.

Speaker 2 This guy's out here. He's trying to make connections with people.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 1 you got to get somebody on that.

Speaker 2 Details matter.

Speaker 1 We'll clean it up.

Speaker 1 We'll clean it up.

Speaker 2 Was there ever a point when you guys got hired?

Speaker 1 Like, we're like, this is kind of fucked up that we just replaced a Matt and Orion and we're a Matt and Orion?

Speaker 6 No, it was, it was a little bit weird.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but after that, it was just move on.

Speaker 1 Again, you got to understand these are the things that fans think about. Yeah.

Speaker 6 We're very dumb.

Speaker 1 So these are like, we're like, uh-oh. Same names? How does this work?

Speaker 2 I did read that you'd worked with our friend Rob Ryan for a while. And he's all-time football guy.

Speaker 2 Just a total legend. Was he ever, it's hard to like envision him as being a mentor to anybody because Rob's just a guy that you hang out with.
He's a cool guy.

Speaker 2 But what was that relationship between you and him like? Because he's a fascinating guy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so I was sitting at my desk at the University of Missouri. I was the D coordinator and assistant head coach at the time working for Gary Pinkle.
And I got a phone call.

Speaker 6 I picked it up and they said, it says, hello.

Speaker 2 It didn't say his name, right?

Speaker 6 And I'm sitting there talking to this guy. And he said, hey, you know, we're looking to interview you.
I want to bring you in. We're bringing some college guys and the coach the linebackers.

Speaker 6 And then about five minutes goes by, and I said, What place is this? He goes, Oh, the Cleveland Browns. I said, Okay, that's cool.
And he goes, I said, I had to hop into a recruiting meeting here

Speaker 6 at eight o'clock. And so I hopped in there.
Then I came back and called him back. And he said, Hey, we want to interview you for the linebacker job of the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 6 And I said, Yeah, I'll come in.

Speaker 6 So I went in there, and the interview was a marathon interview. It was with him and Eric Mangini.

Speaker 6 And it went on forever. I got there at 10.
I did not stop interviewing until 2 in the morning.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 6 And then they offered me the job at 2 in the morning. And what they did was Rob would teach me defenses all day.
And then after dinner, I had to teach him back to Eric Mangini.

Speaker 6 So I just did that. We did it.
It took a couple of breaks.

Speaker 6 Eventually, they offered me the job, and I took it.

Speaker 2 If I was in an interview that lasts that long, I would be like, I quit.

Speaker 2 I don't even have the job.

Speaker 1 No, it was fun because it was ball.

Speaker 6 We were talking ball the whole time. So to me, it was fascinating to learn a different way to do things and how they did stuff.
And it was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Okay, so off that, there's a lot of

Speaker 1 not debate, but you hear it, different coaches talking, like a Bruce Arians would be like, look, we get in, we do our work, we leave. Like,

Speaker 1 that's what football is. You don't have to sit here till three in the morning and pretend that you're grinding and sleep at the office.
What style are you more accustomed to?

Speaker 1 And how do you run like the coaching staff, everything's going on? It could go for you as well, Ryan, where it's like, what's the mantra? Is it you guys are working till four in the morning?

Speaker 1 Or is it just get your job done and you can go enjoy your life?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think that's, you know, you have a schedule and, you know, we start work at six and usually end around 10, 10, 30, you know, for the long days, you know, so it's not, you know, too much.

Speaker 6 You know, then you get to sleep and you're going to have some lack of sleep those first couple days and game plan days, you know, the Mondays, the Tuesdays.

Speaker 2 And then once you get the players in, then we start to catch back up on sleep.

Speaker 6 But I also understand that each guy, and I give them this latitude a little bit, that, you know, there's morning guys and there's night guys.

Speaker 6 You know, there's all, you know, human beings are that way.

Speaker 6 You know, some guys wake up at 4 a.m., some guys like to stay up till midnight, you know, and that's cool, just as long as you get your work done.

Speaker 1 Okay, you didn't give us that latitude, just so we're clear.

Speaker 1 No, you were 8 a.m. Yeah, and we're not morning guys.
That's what it is. Yeah, and really a lot of people will hear 8 a.m.

Speaker 2 and be like, that's not morning.

Speaker 1 That's normal time for you. Yeah, that's not their day.
8 a.m. is a normal time.
Yeah, we both. So what about you, Ryan?

Speaker 1 Are you there's got to be a point where you're doing scouting and you're like, guys, we've gone over this so many times. Yeah.
Yeah, you don't want to overcook it.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's times where you can overanalyze this thing and start to spin, and you're getting too many opinions. So there's a time to shut it down, and you feel comfortable.

Speaker 1 Everyone's on the same page because the way we meet, we're all in the room together. It's a collaborative deal, and it truly is.
I mean, we'll go at it if there's two different opinions, which is fun.

Speaker 1 But then when we make a decision, everyone's on board. So we grind, we sprint, and then we try to take some time to gas up so that we have clarity.
We make decisions.

Speaker 2 Coach, I have a red flag for you as well.

Speaker 8 And I'm not sure if this is...

Speaker 1 We'll see if it's a red flag.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, I'm not sure if it's a real fact, but it's a fact that I read on the internet, so I'm pretty sure it's real. It says that you have four cats.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Incorrect.

Speaker 1 You have two cats. Oh, no.

Speaker 6 They were adopted when I was in Dallas. Okay.
Okay. And named after the movie Frozen, Anna and Elsa.

Speaker 1 Okay. So it's incorrect.

Speaker 2 So the four cats thing is we can dispel that.

Speaker 1 Don't use your kids to get out of this. No, if you're a cat guy, you're a kid.

Speaker 1 using kids.

Speaker 6 I've been around ladies my whole life. So I got two daughters and I got my wife of 27 years.
So they are certainly cat people and now I am a cat person.

Speaker 2 Can we say definitively that we're drawing the line of two cats? Because you get three cats, you might as well have seven.

Speaker 1 Right. You're a crazy cat guy.
Agreed.

Speaker 1 And sometimes you look at the cats and you're like, I kind of wish this was a dog.

Speaker 1 Do you ever do that? No. Oh, no.
Okay, that was.

Speaker 6 I never feel like taking them out for a walk.

Speaker 1 No, that's a red flag. That's a red flag.
That's a red flag.

Speaker 2 Have you you ever asked a player,

Speaker 2 would you identify as a cat or a dog? Like, which one do you like more? That's another classic, like, GM question that we've heard from some people.

Speaker 1 I don't think they do that anymore. Really? No, no.
I don't think they do.

Speaker 2 I like how we're talking about, like, you know, the science has moved on.

Speaker 1 We're done with that. We've got some advanced stuff now.
We're on to like ping-pong balls and a 747.

Speaker 1 That kind of stuff. So, yeah, so you guys, you don't have the weird questions.
It has everyone. I would do the weird question just to see if they react.
Like, there's no good answer.

Speaker 1 Just see what they say. Just one weird question.
You should do it. We'll start to argue that.
Yeah, throw it out there.

Speaker 1 Think of a weird question they would do.

Speaker 2 Or do you like when you shake their hands, are you trying to out-grip them in that initial handshake? Are you monitoring how good their grip is?

Speaker 1 We should analyze that because it's you get the whole spectrum. Yeah.
Yeah. Because there's, you know, the soft ones concerning.
Yeah, steadfast. And then there's guys that try to break your hand.

Speaker 1 Like, what are we trying to do? Yeah.

Speaker 2 What I always look out for is if I do a real nice firm handshake on somebody, and then they go over the top, and you can tell that they're trying to prove something in the handshake.

Speaker 2 I don't like that. I like just solid handshake, eye contact, two seconds, break it off clean.
We're moving on.

Speaker 1 Have you ever had someone throw you the one that goes straight to the forearm? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And you feel like you're in a secret society? Yeah, you're like, what's going on here? Yeah, I just started sweat thinking about that situation. That one is very good.

Speaker 2 It makes me very uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 2 Just a real football question. If we could talk a little ball, how How awesome was it when you discovered that Justin Fields is a great quarterback this year?

Speaker 6 It was cool to see the maturation during the course of the year.

Speaker 6 Him learning the new offense

Speaker 6 and then midway through kind of take off.

Speaker 6 We scored a lot of points during that time and he really took ownership of that. And his leadership just kept growing and growing and growing during the course of the year.

Speaker 6 So I'm certainly excited about that. Like I've stated, obviously he has things to work on like everybody else on the team does and to grow into the second year.
So we'll see where it goes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, was there a point

Speaker 1 that the switch flipped for the coaching staff as well?

Speaker 1 Because it did feel like going through the season somewhere around, it was like around that Monday night football game in New England where it was like, okay, we're going to use him differently and it's starting to be more effective.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so we had that mini buy. So we had the Thursday game, the Washington game in Chicago.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 7 What happened? Who won that? Commanders fan.

Speaker 2 I forgot who won that game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Fields actually almost won that game because remember he had that like 50-yard run in the fourth quarter with like two minutes left. So we kind of won it with cool plays.

Speaker 6 Yes, two decent plays at the end to win it. Yep.

Speaker 6 But yeah, so then we looked at it. You know, we always do this every single week, but we look at every player, okay, what he can improve on, you know, during the course of that time.

Speaker 6 And then we say, okay, what's going to be the plan going forward to improve him? And of course, we do that unit by unit two, offense, defensing, kicking.

Speaker 6 And we just put our heads together and said, hey, you know, let's implement some of these things that enhance his skill set and utilize his skill set. And that's what we did.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was very exciting to watch him grow and some of the running plays. And I agree, passing, we're going to work on.
I had a question for you, coach, though, about your start.

Speaker 1 So Nick Sabin coached you at Toledo.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's pretty crazy. considering what he's done, what he's accomplished since then.
Did you have any idea when you're playing for Nick Sabin?

Speaker 1 Like, this guy is different than every other coach I've ever been around.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So we started off with the, he had a team meeting, and he said to us, he goes, what you're about to go through? Because we're going to start winter conditioning, which is his winning edge program.

Speaker 6 And he said, it'll be the hardest thing you ever do, right? And, you know, players are looking around and saying, okay, you know, sure, sure, right. And then, man, you get up for those 6 a.m.

Speaker 6 workouts, and he's got 16 stations that he does. And by the time we got halfway through it, I think we had eight scholarship guys quit.

Speaker 6 And I had shin splints so bad I could barely walk down the stairs because we did it at what used to be called Centennial Hall. It's the basketball arena.

Speaker 6 So we would do like, you know, sprint, 300-yard laps, and you do mat drills and different things like that. And then

Speaker 6 we got the spring ball. And

Speaker 6 one of the comments that he, you know, I stepped up on a trap play and I hit the guy for a TFL. And I was over, you know, hit him pretty good.
And I look up and Coach Sabin's over top of me.

Speaker 6 And he said, hey, you know, celebrating. He said, don't worry about that play.
Worry about the next play. You know, so he was flipping, you know, one play at a time type of mentality.

Speaker 6 But you could certainly see in his demeanor and how he operated things and attention to detail

Speaker 6 that we were building a champion at that point. And I've taken that with me all the way through because he is just outstanding from day one.

Speaker 6 From my perspective as a player, you could see that his leadership skills and attention to detail was off the charts.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I can tell when you're just talking about hitting somebody, I can tell you miss it a little bit. You miss that contact.

Speaker 6 I always do. I'm an aggressive person by nature.
I love, I used to be a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Well, you're a cat guy, though, so not that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's good. Yeah, you got it.
You got to size me up there. You're going to jack him up.

Speaker 6 I sized you up when I walked in.

Speaker 1 I'm not concerned.

Speaker 2 You missed that contact, right?

Speaker 1 You missed that.

Speaker 6 You know, I loved it. I enjoyed that part of the game, and I like to coach that into the players.

Speaker 6 You know, I really appreciate guys that like that part of the game, that style, the physical style of it. And I'm always drawn to those guys when I'm watching the tape, you know, with Ryan.

Speaker 6 And it's certainly something fun to

Speaker 6 enhance in a player.

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Speaker 2 I can imagine you watching film and you finding there's got to be a couple guys on your defense that you look at and you're like, that guy, I love watching that guy play.

Speaker 2 He's just an absolute game wrecker. Is there anybody that comes to mind on the Bears defense that you just love watching the film and you're like, you're clapping it up in the film room?

Speaker 6 Yeah, Brisker's one of the guys that I love to watch because you know, obviously a great evaluation by Ryan last year, the playmaking ability, but also the hitting, the striking ability.

Speaker 6 You know, we in our system, we always say quickness, instincts, and strike, you know, and those guys that have those abilities are very important to us, and that's what we look at for players.

Speaker 1 So, speaking of playing days, you obviously, Ryan, you played at Boston College offensive lineman. Do you find yourself drawing, does your eye draw to the offensive lineman when you're watching tape?

Speaker 1 And are you, like, have you found yourself being able to be better at grading and analyzing offensive linemen because you actually played the position?

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's just the little details that you're kind of drawn to, and you see it's angles, it's feel, the instinct, you know, part of the game.

Speaker 1 That stands out a little bit more. And over my career, obviously that starts to bleed into other positions, but it's always starting there where you have a good you you feel like you have a good flow.

Speaker 1 All right, so you need to have a good offensive line. That's basically what we're

Speaker 1 okay. That's that's so speaking of that in the draft, is it best position available or is it value just like we will just take anyone? It's it is value.

Speaker 1 And then certain positions are weighted a little bit different to be stacked ahead of positions that aren't. That was smart what you did because we can't let everyone else know.
No.

Speaker 1 That's position available. Yeah.
You got to just like, hey, let's just grab anyone.

Speaker 1 We'll do it because you don't want people to be like, oh, they need this so we can jump in front of them. We're just taking anyone.
Anyone. Anyone.
Any person. Even a quarterback.

Speaker 1 See, this smoke screen. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Smoke screen. Coach.
Quarterback. We could take a look at it.
We'll quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 If you guys drafted four quarterbacks in the first six rounds of the draft, let's get fucking nuts.

Speaker 1 How would you feel about that? Why not go crazy? Yeah, right. Right.

Speaker 1 They can't.

Speaker 2 You have final say right now. You just final say them on four quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Let's get nuts.

Speaker 2 When you're taking these calls and you're obviously hearing from a bunch of teams that are putting together packages, competing, so you can move up, you're evaluating everything.

Speaker 2 Are there different teams and general managers that you see the notification from? You're like, I got to deal with this guy again?

Speaker 2 Is there a team that you would prefer to deal the pick to as opposed to other teams? No, no.

Speaker 1 And I got good relationships with most of them. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, open to talk to anybody.

Speaker 2 But would it matter at all if you dealt the pick inside the division?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that takes a little more to do that.

Speaker 2 For sure. There's a premium on that.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Big premium.

Speaker 2 Big premium.

Speaker 7 Big premium.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Coach, I got a problem. We got to fix your acronyms.
So you have an acronym hits. Is that right? I do.
So what does it stand for? I don't know. You tell me.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Hustle, intensity, takeaways in taking care of the football, and smart situational football. The T and the S are a lot.
We got to get it to one word.

Speaker 6 Yeah, well, you can do the T, just the ball.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 And then the S can just be smart.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
So there we go. That was

Speaker 1 simplified. That was very crazy.

Speaker 6 I mean, you're just getting too wordy.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what I was saying. I saw it, and I was like, I was saying, just do hitting people is the shit.
Hits. I like that.
That's funny. So that's just very easy.
Right off the...

Speaker 1 And then what the other one is the M ⁇ M principle, right? Which I like that one.

Speaker 2 That's motor and mean.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yep.
So

Speaker 1 which one means more? You need the motor or the mean?

Speaker 6 Well, you need them both.

Speaker 1 But which one if you had to pick one?

Speaker 6 Because that's for a defensive lineman.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You got to have that.
The motor and the mean.

Speaker 8 Yeah. The motor, I don't know.

Speaker 6 If you had a great motor and then you go ahead and strike somebody and you kind of just kind of ooze into it, I mean, what does it really mean then?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is it a perfect, like you want 50-50, the exact same motor and mean?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I want them all 100%. Okay.

Speaker 2 If you have mean but no motor, then you're just kind of

Speaker 2 just an asshole. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're just getting penalized.

Speaker 1 If you have a motor,

Speaker 1 you're not mean, you're just a fast guy. Yeah.
You're like, you're a track guy.

Speaker 2 Motor and mean.

Speaker 1 that's got to be

Speaker 6 a disposition yeah

Speaker 1 it's a position and the disposition oh i like that that's a good sound feel free to use it yeah we will

Speaker 2 we'll steal that one yes

Speaker 2 how do we feel about getting a dome in chicago pro or con

Speaker 1 i think it's a good opportunity to do a lot that's a good answer it's a great that's a that's a that's a great answer

Speaker 1 at all times of the year yes

Speaker 2 yes because justin when we interviewed him he said like it'd be cool to have a dome i think a lot of offensive players probably would feel that way.

Speaker 2 But is there anything about if you're interviewing a guy that's going to be playing in Chicago? Do you want him to enjoy cold weather?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it tells you a little bit about his toughness, too. Yeah.
Yeah. Guys that play in the cold.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 No sleeves. Were you a no-sleeve guy?

Speaker 1 No sleeve. At BC, no sleeves.

Speaker 8 No sleeves.

Speaker 2 Were you a no-sleeve guy?

Speaker 1 No sleeves. Yeah, I like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What about

Speaker 1 free agency? So you like, it's obviously one of the busiest times for you guys right now because not only do you have the number one pick, but you have a lot of cap space.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is there going to be a like first day big splash? Are we thinking about making a big splash, letting everyone know, hey, look at what we just bought? Or are we going to be a little more conservative?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say it's somewhere in between. Okay.
Somewhere in between. Yeah.
We need guys that are going to help us win and get us in the right direction. But at the same time,

Speaker 1 we're still going to be disciplined with the approach. So we don't want to do anything crazy that's going to hurt us down the road.

Speaker 1 We kind of want to find that sweet spot where we can do this for a long time. Okay.

Speaker 6 I like that answer.

Speaker 1 You guys are smart guys.

Speaker 2 You are smart. How did you guys meet?

Speaker 8 Oh, it was a couple years ago.

Speaker 1 Linked up.

Speaker 1 We were playing golf there in Florida. And got to know each other.

Speaker 1 And then there were some

Speaker 1 people that I worked with, that worked with coach.

Speaker 1 So we got to kind of do our homework on each other that way too. So, yep.
Had a few phone calls over the years.

Speaker 2 Did you know like when you were interviewing for the position like I feel like I got I feel like I'm nailing these interviews.

Speaker 6 I feel like I've got a good shot well I know that when him and I were you know started to build our relationship I could certainly see us working together

Speaker 6 because we had the same philosophies we cared about the same things you know we put the players first we always want to serve the players and help them to become better and that's where our hearts were and you could feel that right away so that was the most important thing because you start with foundation of people you know that's the most important thing.

Speaker 6 And then are you like, you know, you know, in terms of like having that same vision? And I certainly felt that all the way through and still, you know, still obviously do.

Speaker 6 And it's just building and building. Our relationships getting stronger and stronger.
So it's been cool.

Speaker 2 I didn't know that much about you coming into this interview, but what I can tell just from sitting at a table with you and hearing you talk, you've got, you have the coach's accent.

Speaker 2 When I hear your accent, that's football coach to me. It's like a little bit Gruden.
Is that the Ohio coming out? Is that what that is?

Speaker 6 I've just been blessed to have a lot of great examples of coaches, you know, from Gary Pinkle, who just got in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 6 I worked for him 18 years, and then Nick Sabin for that short amount of time, the impact that he had. And then all the position coaches,

Speaker 6 Coach Pease, Dean Pease, just retired. I was with him.
He won two Super Bowls as a defensive coordinator.

Speaker 6 Tom Amsuch was the head coach at Toledo.

Speaker 6 He had a fantastic record there. So a lot of really good, successful coaches, but really good good men to be able to really show me the way.

Speaker 2 I'm also moving you up in my power rankings of which coaches could beat up other coaches.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, you definitely could have moved up. The look you gave me when I was like, you're a cat guy, soft.
You want to jump across the table. You're allowed to hit him.
Yeah, no, that's

Speaker 1 when we do our post-grades after this, we're like, that guy's got some mean and motor. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. I like it.
That's a fact. That's good.
Yeah, we're pushing all the right buttons.

Speaker 2 And you, I think, I feel like you could beat up a majority of the general managers, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I'll let you figure that out.
I'll be right back. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You guys definitely size each other up when you're making trades.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You guys are, it's like anything else in life. You're trying to alpha each other a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And again, these are the dumb things that we think of as fans where we're just like in the middle of like July, we'll say, what team would win the Super Bowl if it was just a fist fight between the coaches?

Speaker 1 Shit like that. Right.
Be careful of Rabel, though. He'll fight dirty.

Speaker 1 Ryan, question about the start of your time in Chicago. You obviously had the Roquan contract stuff in the summer.
Yeah. Ends up being in a trade.

Speaker 1 How do you think that all, like looking back on it, went down? Do you have any regrets or like, hey, I wish I had handled this differently? Because that was, you got thrown right into it.

Speaker 1 That was immediately, this is a tough situation.

Speaker 1 Figure out a way to get through it. Yeah, no, I knew coming in that you always have to stay on your toes and adjust and adapt.

Speaker 1 But no, with that situation, you know, I felt like we had a system, we had a process. I talk about it a lot just in terms of how we're going to value certain positions and players.

Speaker 1 We're going to put that together and we're going to stick with it. There's some flexibility there that you try to work.

Speaker 1 And I felt like we did that. And at the end of the day, I thought the result was great.
You know, Roquan got the contract he was looking for.

Speaker 1 We got some draft capital, and we'll just continue to build that way. But I couldn't be happier for him.
Yeah. And then what about the Chase Claypool trade? So I'm a fan of it.

Speaker 1 I think this story is not done. That's my line.
Correct. Some people online are saying we got fleeced.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just the way that it goes down. I think at the end of the day, it was an opportunity to get another receiver on the team that can affect the game.

Speaker 1 I've talked about this too, where this is where it's different than basketball and baseball. It's not just plug-and-play immediately.

Speaker 1 There was off-season workouts, there's training camp, all of that that he didn't get.

Speaker 1 And then, especially for an outside receiver, there's a relationship piece with a quarterback that there's trust, especially big body receivers that win in contested situations.

Speaker 1 You got to trust that even if you don't see it. And I know in this offseason, they're going to get some work together, and that relationship is going to grow.
So I don't think the story is written.

Speaker 1 I got confidence in it. Yes.
And at some points, you know, in this game, you got to take chances. You got to step out and do things.

Speaker 1 And right there, it was an opportunity to get our team better, our offense better, and give Justin, you know, another weapon to throw to. I got your back on that.

Speaker 1 So don't worry, because I ran into Chase Claypool at the Super Bowl, and he knew my name so i was like i'm a fan of yours for life so i'm gonna you and i might we might both get fired just going down with chase claypool but we'll do it i'll we'll be back to back being like no we didn't get fleeced we're not owned so don't worry i got you you got you got me fighting for you coach did you uh did you work with justin fields on his tackling after watching that film of him trying to take out micah parsons just like stepping over him I did not.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 No, his tackling improved this year, though.

Speaker 6 That was bad. He shouldn't be doing that very much.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's smart. It's just like, don't hurt yourself, but also maybe just touch him if he's already down on the ground.

Speaker 1 I'd actually prefer he did it the way I know it was embarrassing, but

Speaker 1 probably Jay Cutler's best year with the Bears, he went out with an injury because he broke his thumb tackling after an interception. So let's just maybe get him out of battle.

Speaker 1 Like just get out of there.

Speaker 1 Don't even worry about it.

Speaker 2 Or just no interceptions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or no interceptions.

Speaker 1 That's probably

Speaker 1 good defense. What do you think about the orange jerseys? How are we feeling? Do you feel like the team has a different personality? Because, again,

Speaker 1 we'll see like a different jersey color and be like, oh, that team looks awesome today. They're going to be sick.

Speaker 1 Do you think the guys play different in different jerseys? No, I do not.

Speaker 1 No. That was a dumb question.

Speaker 1 And also, I disagree with your answer, respectfully. That's just,

Speaker 1 it's the Dion. You look good.
You play good. Like, that happens.
So you never, ever see it.

Speaker 6 Right. I think it's in the preparation, not in the jersey.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Again, like, I would, I like that a coach says this. Yeah,

Speaker 1 but I kind of be a big, big red flag, but I kind of want to deep down

Speaker 2 outfits before long.

Speaker 1 Deep down, like, I kind of want him to admit: like, if you have a bad week of preparation, you could just be like, let's just put out a really sick jersey and everyone, that'll make it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, have it like actually have bare fur on it. Yeah, we have no game plan, guys, but fucking color rush.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 It's going to be sad.

Speaker 2 Coach, why are we not using fullbacks anymore?

Speaker 1 Good question.

Speaker 2 We use fullback. Josh,

Speaker 2 in general, in the NFL. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 What's with the demand?

Speaker 6 I think the utilization of fullback is an important thing. That's why we have one.
So it's an important piece to it.

Speaker 6 I would say that a lot of the college game is coming up to the pro game. And in many instances, they're not using fullbacks.
And I think that's a big case of it.

Speaker 6 We certainly value fullbacks, and we think it's an important piece.

Speaker 2 The pendulum is swinging back a little bit because for a while it felt like there were maybe one or two teams that actually had like a full-time fullback.

Speaker 6 And you see the top teams doing it, right? Georgia and Alabama, they all have fullbacks and different

Speaker 6 two-back sets and all that.

Speaker 2 Even at the professional level, when everything is so high-paced and so specialized, do you think that there's still room in the game or a need in the game to have a guy like a fullback who will just go out there and hit somebody and just establish a physical tone to it?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think it creates a lot of problems for the defense.

Speaker 6 You know, when you create different formation sets, and if you have a guy that can really do damage in the passing game, you know, have a route tree out there when he's flexed out and then bring him back, and it creates obviously an additional gap in the run game.

Speaker 6 You know, so there's a lot of problems it creates for the defense.

Speaker 1 We're big fans of fullbacks. Yeah.
Because it also just looks cool. Yeah.
Just hat on hat. Neck roll.
Yeah. Just run the damn ball.
Yeah, the neck rollback.

Speaker 8 Do you like to run the damn ball

Speaker 1 for the 49ers?

Speaker 2 Juice, great.

Speaker 2 Great weapon. Yes.

Speaker 1 All-time, probably All-Stot.

Speaker 2 All-statt, I would say, well, John Kuhn, I would say. I like John Kuhn.

Speaker 2 I don't like him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's fair. But his average, I think, was exactly 3.0 yards per carry.
So the old saying was, like, you need one yard, he'll get you three. You need five yards, he'll get you three.

Speaker 2 He was just, you know, plug and play.

Speaker 8 Right.

Speaker 2 All-stat. He was a little flashy sometimes, but he got the job right now.

Speaker 1 Who's your guy's favorite fullbacks? Just guys talking fullbacks.

Speaker 1 I'd probably go back a little bit.

Speaker 1 Who's with the Chargers? Lorenzo Neils. Oh, yeah, Lorenzo Neils.
Yeah, Amber Harris, yeah. He was a hammer.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think he was awesome. I think he blocked for 10 consecutive thousand-yard rushers.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is crazy. What about you? I'm an all-stock guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Because we played him way back when I was coaching in college. So

Speaker 6 I certainly respect him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a beast.

Speaker 1 We were lucky enough to know him, and he's come on the show a bunch of time. He actually gave us

Speaker 1 some game-worn jerseys, and it's so funny how they go down to like our ankles. Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, right.

Speaker 2 They're huge back then. It's funny because him and Lorenzo came on our show at the same time, and we set up our bench press.

Speaker 2 We have a bench press in our studio that we rarely use, but we broke it out on special occasions for these guys. Lorenzo hopped on there, and I think he put up 185, something like 52 times.
No, wow.

Speaker 2 Just kept going, kept going, kept going. Do you guys, when you're looking at bench press for players coming into the NFL,

Speaker 2 does that exercise actually factor into any decision making that you're doing whether or not you you want to draft this guy? Or is bench press like a relic of the past?

Speaker 1 We're looking at the extremes.

Speaker 1 If you get one,

Speaker 1 it's concerning. Yeah, that would be fair.
Kevin Durant didn't even get any. Right.
So bust. So

Speaker 1 that's what we're saying. You get a certain number over, what, 25? Yeah.
You're good.

Speaker 2 What if it's like a quarterback that's putting up? Remember Brady Quinn? He hopped on there and he doesn't move the needle.

Speaker 1 At all? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What about the, we're still waiting, so we're going to air this on Monday, but it's Friday morning. The Bryce Young height watch.
Everyone's waiting with bated breath.

Speaker 1 Do you think it actually matters as much as the internet is saying? Or it's like, come on, the guy can play. I think it's like anything else.
Like, what do you have?

Speaker 1 Because a lot of times if you focus on what guys don't have, you're kind of blinded from their strengths. And

Speaker 1 the way that guy plays the game and sees it, you know, I think he does some things to overcome

Speaker 1 those shortcomings. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, also, it's more important to measure to the eyes. Who really cares what happens in the forehead region? That's wasted space.
Where their eyes are, that's the real metric, I think.

Speaker 2 He might have high eyes.

Speaker 1 We don't know. Yeah, potentially.
We should measure that. Yeah, like Peyton Manning just wasted his entire forehead.
He did, yeah. Bust.
Another bust.

Speaker 2 What about hand size? Do you guys pay attention to hand size on quarterbacks?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, we look at it, but then, again, you watch the tape and it kind of tells you everything you need to know.

Speaker 1 Playing in different weather, if you have no issues, then you're fine. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 How, Coach, when you were on, when you were coaching with the Colts, Philip Rivers, one of our favorite quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 Did you ever get him to swear around you? Maybe in practice when you were dialing up on defense? Like, God fucking damn it. No, nothing? Nothing.

Speaker 6 No. He is fantastic, though.
Yeah. Yeah, I loved working with him.
Our defensive guys love going against him all spring and during training camp, and it was competitive, but it was fun-spirited.

Speaker 6 You know, it was really, really cool. It was on the edge of it, and it really got us going during practice.
And he's phenomenal.

Speaker 2 Who's the biggest competitor during practice you've ever been around?

Speaker 6 I would say Shaq Leonard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a monster. Yeah,

Speaker 6 when I had him those four years, he was ultra-competitive the entire time.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 6 full tilt the entire time during practice.

Speaker 2 Do you watch like Thursday night football, Monday night football, Sunday night football? Or after you're done with the game, you're just you go back and you're you go back to work?

Speaker 6 No, I watch it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You watch all that stuff? I do. Do you have a favorite set of announcers?

Speaker 1 No, I don't.

Speaker 6 I don't really watch that part of it. Yeah.
The TV copy I do watch, you know, just to see the replays and all those things during the course of the week, but I don't have the volume on.

Speaker 2 I like that. That's a big football guy move.
What about the analytics part of the game?

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's huge.

Speaker 2 Do you have a guy? Do you have like a nerd that's just around you and you're like, yeah, this is my nerd?

Speaker 6 We have several guys that work in our analytics department that we both utilize

Speaker 6 on both sides on the football side and the scouting side. It's a very important part for us.

Speaker 2 Do you ever get mad at them?

Speaker 2 Mad at them? Yeah, mad at the analytics people

Speaker 6 when they're

Speaker 6 no, because why would you get mad at them? They would withhold information from you. You don't want to do that.

Speaker 6 You want good leadership, yeah. You want them to be able to divulge all the information they have.

Speaker 2 So, how do you go about figuring out

Speaker 2 like a hypothetical situation fourth quarter?

Speaker 2 How much time is left?

Speaker 1 Two minutes? Two minutes. Two minutes? A little less than two minutes.

Speaker 2 Like 150 to something like that.

Speaker 1 How many timeouts?

Speaker 2 You have three timeouts and you're down by eight points. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And it's fourth in goal, right?

Speaker 2 Fourth in goal on the eight-yard line. Okay.
Down by eight points. You got three timeouts left.

Speaker 2 Do you go for it, try to score a touchdown? Again, you're down by eight. Or do you kick a field goal?

Speaker 6 No, you have to go there.

Speaker 7 You have to be smart.

Speaker 1 Smart. Got to go there.
Hypothetically at that start.

Speaker 1 Some people, some coaches in the league might be like, hey, we're down eight. Let's try to kick three field goals to win the game by one.

Speaker 2 And also, Tommy, there's not a coach in the league that would say that.

Speaker 12 There's one coach. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's not here right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 He's got a French name.

Speaker 1 No, it's Matt LaFleur. He's an idiot.
So

Speaker 1 we're friends with him, but we've brought up that hypothetical probably 3,000 times on this show.

Speaker 6 So he'll text us and be like, why do you guys keep doing that?

Speaker 1 He's like, well, why not? Yeah. You're down eight.
It's a pretty basic math problem.

Speaker 2 What about this one? You're down 14 points.

Speaker 2 There's, what, two minutes, 30 seconds left in the game?

Speaker 2 You just scored a touchdown. Do you go for two or do you kick an extra point?

Speaker 6 So now I'm down seven?

Speaker 2 Well, you're down six because you just scored the touchdown. Okay.

Speaker 2 Do you kick the extra point to go down seven or do you go for two to go down six potentially?

Speaker 6 Kick the extra point.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 2 We had one smart person tell us.

Speaker 1 You went two minutes too long.

Speaker 1 You got to go for two.

Speaker 6 Well, I was looking back ten minutes ago. Yeah,

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 You gotta go for two.

Speaker 1 You go for two because help me.

Speaker 2 But you go for two because that way it's about 50-50 chances

Speaker 2 that you convert the two-point conversion. So if you miss it the first time, then you can go for two the second time.

Speaker 1 And if you make it the first time, you can win the game with an extra point. There you go.
There we go. We knew it.
We know it, Analyx. All right, last question.
This has been awesome.

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Speaker 1 What are we going to do with the first pick?

Speaker 6 Let's just say we'll cut this part.

Speaker 1 I can't tell you that. Just we'll cut this.
It's too early. We'll cut this.
It's too early. How many? Who's called? How many calls? How many calls? Let's do that.
That's totally... A few.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, we, again, I think you guys get our vibe. We're pretty dumb.

Speaker 1 Hank doesn't know the difference between a couple and a few, so why don't we give it an exact number? Hank's going to have to figure it out. Okay, that's it.
We're going to be here all day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hank in his head was. We're going to hold you high.
Yeah, that was two calls. They got two calls.
All right. So we're starting.
All right. And then we obviously were moving to Chicago.

Speaker 1 We're going to open up a big office. You guys are welcome.
We would love to have you come and compete so we can see the dog and you. Yeah.
The motor, the mean, all that stuff.

Speaker 2 I'll just let you hit Big Cat. I'll just let you take him out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and while I'm just like cat guy,

Speaker 1 you like cats,

Speaker 1 I'm not owned.

Speaker 2 What about this? What about this? If the Bears win a Super Bowl, if you win a Super Bowl with the Bears, Big Cat, will you get a cat?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, you get two cats. I'll get fucking 10 cats.
I'll get 10 cats.

Speaker 6 We're going to hold you too.

Speaker 1 I'll get 10 cats if the Bears win a Super Bowl. Love it.
There we go. Under your guys' watch.

Speaker 1 You guys can bring us there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think maybe like 75 years, maybe they'll win one. I'm not going to get like, actually, I'll be like old.
So cats would be nice. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This interview has gone way too long. Thank you guys so much.

Speaker 1 Obviously, best of luck. Thank you.

Speaker 6 Let's wheel and deal.

Speaker 1 We will.

Speaker 1 You need a smoke screen. According to your plan, I got a lot of work to do.

Speaker 1 Listen, you need a smoke screen. You let me know.

Speaker 1 You go through the channels. I'll start smoke screening.
I'm here for you guys. Whatever you need, okay? Appreciate it.
All right. All right.
Thank you, guys. All right.

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Speaker 1 let's wrap up the show.

Speaker 1 Hank, have you ever gotten the lottery ball? No, Daniel. We were out in the wild in Indy.
How many times did you get it? Couple. Well, no, you've never gotten it.
Yeah, you're right. Damn.

Speaker 2 How many different people would you say in Indy came up to you and just gave you numbers or told you that they got it?

Speaker 7 Just people will get it. Yeah, a couple people told me they got it, which just is...
extremely disrespectful.

Speaker 7 And just people will just whisper in my ear as I walk by.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 2 Stop doing that.

Speaker 1 By the way, congratulations, PFT, the one-week anniversary for you getting it.

Speaker 8 Thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're right. Actually, seven days ago, right now.

Speaker 1 Right now, right this second.

Speaker 2 And then, you remember when I didn't, I false started? Yeah. And then Hank took my number.
Yeah. And then I took a new number and it won.
Yeah. And then I won $36,000.

Speaker 2 Wow. He's never going to get it.
Hank still owes me money for that.

Speaker 7 She sold me clothes.

Speaker 1 If he's anything like Max, it will take like six weeks.

Speaker 2 Hank is Southwestern Merchandise, which is on the web.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And I've said, once I get that, you'll get your money.

Speaker 10 Do you think you've had every number recommended to you? Like all 100?

Speaker 1 That'd be impossible. Well, no.

Speaker 10 No, like all 100 possible numbers. Do you think they've all been to 100?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, because he's never gotten the right number recommended to him.

Speaker 2 Do you ever take into account people's advice when determining what you're going to pick?

Speaker 7 Sometimes, yeah.

Speaker 7 I have a good one for this. Someone DM'd me my suggestion for today.

Speaker 2 You have a good number?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 It's a hot one.

Speaker 1 Okay, numbers. 69.

Speaker 7 15.

Speaker 1 Ew.

Speaker 8 For Anthony Richardson?

Speaker 1 18. Seriously?

Speaker 1 I'll do 17 then.

Speaker 2 Tebow. 15.

Speaker 1 20.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go 33. Larry Bird, maybe the greatest athlete of all time.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 25.

Speaker 12 saw the five ending.

Speaker 1 You were close, Hank.

Speaker 2 Kind of.

Speaker 6 I thought one out of two a lot recently.

Speaker 12 Another winner for Max Homa. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He choked today.

Speaker 12 I had him top twice in a month.

Speaker 1 I'm actually mad because I had him to finish top 10. He couldn't fucking do that.
What a fucking piece of shit.

Speaker 5 Some people were saying it was Mickey Mouse last time, but now

Speaker 2 twice.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck you, Hank.

Speaker 1 Hank's trying to call me

Speaker 1 to interrupt it.

Speaker 1 Stop.

Speaker 1 Hmm? Stop.

Speaker 1 Stop.

Speaker 1 You're such a bitch.

Speaker 1 He's not picking up anyway. He's probably on a fucking private chat.

Speaker 1 Good. Hank keeps trying to FaceTime me.

Speaker 1 Why would you do that? This is for the AWLs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. Max Homer just won again.
No, he didn't.

Speaker 13 Yeah, he did. Wait, isn't the players next week?

Speaker 5 So they go from Orlando to Jacksonville. That's probably.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he just doesn't want to answer.

Speaker 1 No, he's probably on a private jet. He did choke.

Speaker 1 He should have been top 10.

Speaker 2 Did you see he took his shoes and socks off and stood in the lake to hit a shot?

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 that was a good visual. He sucks.
Apparently, there's an alligator in that lake, too.

Speaker 1 Could have gotten a lot of money. I'll just put it on a text chain with all of us, Hank, so that he can see it and respond to it.
All that's the show.

Speaker 2 Love you guys.

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Speaker 1 dream.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 I'm drinking.

Speaker 1 drink on the island,

Speaker 1 take away