Adam Schefter, Live From The NFL Combine Plus Fyre Fest Of The Week

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good friend Adam Schefter on the podcast. Maybe, former good friend.
Yep. It'll be, let's just say it's a wild ride.
It's a wild ride of an interview, great interview with Adam Schefter. We're live from Indy, talking combine, getting ready for the combine.

We did some training today.

We also will do Fyre Fest the week.

And don't worry, we did film an extra lottery ball at the end.

So maybe today's the day that Hank will get it.

I got good vibes.

I'm feeling like this is the day. Same.
I really do. So I'm excited.
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Okay, let's go. Boy! Boy! Now in the street there is violence And then a lot of stuff work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Welcome to part of my take.

Today is Friday, March 3rd, and we are live from the Combine.

Indianapolis, Indiana.

Hank playing flip cup.

Max, get us some more water.

Yeah, boys, Combine week.

We're here.

What a magical place Indianapolis is.

I'm happy football is back.

Football is officially back.

It was a long week and a half, kind of.

I guess the XFL was around technically.

But, yeah, football is officially back.

I've reached the point where I think I'm over combine week.

Maybe I'm just getting old.

Maybe I'm a very old 28 years old.

Well, I have some thoughts because you go on, but I agree.

I was going to say it's a bunch of football guys that flock to the same place go to the same bars eat the same shrimp cocktails like it's like march of the penguins yeah if they were wearing lanyards and trying to bang waitresses i so i agree for a different reason um i just would like to do combine week but with couches so i was thinking about it last night we were at a bar and uh i've had the long-standing take it's not like some novel thing uh bigger guys understand not being able to sit down at a bar is torture it's it's it's no different than getting waterboarded uh so i was standing at a bar for about an hour and a half that's usually my capacity and the whole time i was like this would be sweet if i could sit down uh so maybe that's the issue is combine week just needs to be in recliners and couches everyone's sitting in a big circle maybe dozing off here and there yeah that would be nice you make a good point because i i hate networking i hate it but i think i would enjoy networking a lot more if there if it was like a living room sitting down if it was at a house party right i think we pitched that to john taffer when he came on the show a bar with couches that were at like seven different bars inside the same restaurant yeah we pitched that exact idea because i said i was like the problem with going to bars is if i can't find a seat i want to go home yeah no i i agree i i'm sick of standing i don't like standing is the most overrated thing people can that's that's actually they should test players for that the combine who can just stand the longest apple watch when it's like hey you haven't stood up in a couple hours like shut the fuck up yeah that's by design I don't want to stand up mind your own business yeah stupid bitch but yeah we are in combine week we are doing some uh I don't really think we network we just see a couple people that we haven't seen in a while saw arthur smith yeah he looks good he looks great chin like a greek god uh we have we have a couple interviews coming up next week uh we talked to kevin stephanski which was a great interview so it's always fun to come here because it does feel like the whole football world descends on indianapolis and it's a very different vibe than the Super Bowl where it's like you know flashy celebrities here it's like who can eat the most steaks while they're talking about like free agency yeah wearing the team issued polo so so it's funny because uh there was actually one person I was very excited to potentially see and I still am and that's Deuce Gruden yeah I'm just on the hunt for remember we did I did see him at that Starbucks that one year. I saw him.
I met him. Well, not really met him.
I was starstruck by him. Yeah.
We got into an elevator together and then I just froze up and I was just like looking at him. Yeah.
And then he got off the elevator. I was like, that was awesome.
Deuce Gruden. So I thought that I saw him last night at the bar and that I was nervous and Che was next to me and I asked her friend Steven Che.
I was like, is that deuce gruden and steve was like do you want me to go up and and say are you deuce my friend over there wants to meet you yeah he's gonna introduce me do you like any of us here more than a friend yeah he was gonna he was gonna be like hey my friend over there thinks that you're cute and then my friend would be me and then i'd just be standing there like staring at him yeah so steven went up to this guy and was like hey are you deuce and the guy was like no no i'm not deuce. Damn.
And I was so – the wind was like totally out of my sales. He's the one guy that I've been on the hunt for.
A foos? Yeah. That's bullshit.
Yeah, it was not good. Yeah.
And then we did – yeah, I mean, we basically – you go to a couple bars. You see – I did see Cicliano.
I think he realizes everything I've said about him. We were actually having a conversation about it after because PFTft was like i bet you he knows all the shit you talk about him and i realized that's one of those guys that like if i was in a hallway with him one-on-one i'd probably be like hey dude i'm sorry like you don't understand the reason why i say i want you to get hit by a bus is because uh jake marsh just squirms so much when i say it like it's really nothing personal it's really just jake's reaction has elicited this behavior where i just want to wish the worst thing possible don't don't take it personally but i hope that you die right but only no i hope he dies only when jake is around to hear me say that okay so right now i don't hope he dies if he got hit what if he got hit by a bus in indianapolis right now but you could text you could get jake marsh on facetime if i was like a lot facetiming him while it was happening no afterwards like if you got hit by a bus in Indianapolis right now, but you could text, you could get Jake Marsh on FaceTime.
If I was FaceTiming him while it was happening? No, afterwards. If you got to break the news too much.
I could be interested in that. And then the big combine news, we're just all waiting for Bryce Young to get measured.
He's waiting with bated breath. I thought it was today.
It's actually Saturday. He's not getting measured until Saturday.
I would assume he he's just not gonna shit for the next two days yeah he's or he's getting stretched out on a rack somewhere trying to do both inch so he's got to get tall and he's got to get fat you can't get taller you can't it can't be done but i do think that there's something to be said for our theory that if you measure to the eyes that's what's really important you shouldn't the the forehead is wasted space as far as a quarterback is concerned measure to the man's eye maybe he's got high eyes he's got high eyes he also um i don't know what like his team is doing there was a video of him walking into the combine next to a tight end you need him walking next to andrew cicciano yeah or me yeah just i can be a consultant everyone that you basically have to Tom Cruise this like make the doors really small yeah in his you know make like a miniature hotel room and take videos of him in his hotel room just being Andre the Giant Pete Prisco get Pete Prisco to hang out with him for a while I am interested to see how much he weighs in uh that's going to be it's going to be a big deal if he like if he comes in under 200 pounds well the best part is peter schrager a friend of the program uh said that he spoke to multiple teams and they all had no issue with like his size so i think it eventually will just not matter it might matter when he's playing but in terms of getting drafted i don't think it will be that much of a bearing i think he's going to go in the top five no matter what. So maybe if he is 5'7", 160, I could see that.
But still someone would take a first-round pick on him. Take a flyer on him.
Because he played in the SEC and he was fucking awesome. So, yeah, I'm more worried about what his weight's going to be because that is an actual factor where you get hit by people.
Giants are going to be smashing you into the ground. It would be helpful if you weighed over 200 pounds.
But he did play in the SEC. He did.
So when is he going to get measured? Saturday, 10 a.m. It's literally hurry up and wait.
Yeah. We're just sitting here.
I'm just refreshing the feed. When is he going to get measured? I want to see those measurables.
Let's fucking go. It's also funny if you take probably everybody that's working out this week at the combine and you put them on the BMI chart.
Yeah. They're all clinically obese.
Yes. We're probably in better shape than most NFL players.
Maybe not the skill positions, but yeah. Yeah, probably not punters.
Yeah, I was going to say wide receivers are definitely not obese. 100% not obese.
I think if you're like six feet tall, 6'1", and you weigh 220 pounds, that might be obese on the BMI chart. Maybe, yeah.
BMImi is such a crock of shit it's also going to be very funny whatever bryce young weighs in and his height is at uh everyone's just gonna be like that's bullshit that's not real yeah no matter what yeah like he could i think people actually want it like they are wishing for him to be 5'6 it'd be very funny if he if he was listed at alabama as being. It's so funny how in college media, guys, you can just make up whatever you want.
You can just write down a number. Nobody will ever check it.
He should weigh in at the North Pole. You weigh more at the North Pole than you do at the equator because of the bulge.
Yes, that's true. That's where he should do his pro day.
Alright, what else is going on? I mean, we have. There's Jalen Carter.

That was not good.

Official statement by part of my take. If you are implicated in leaving the scene of a vehicular.

Well, it's not a homicide.

Just a death.

Death.

Double death.

Shouldn't do that.

Not good.

Shouldn't do that.

Be better.

Yeah.

That's our official statement.

There's room for growth.

Be better. Yes.
And again, it's another situation where everyone takes their like pause to say oh my god this is horrific and then he'll still go top five oh yeah i mean he's he's a freak right and uh he released a great notes app his notes app i've never seen this before it started with the word statement yeah Which was nice of him to clarify what it was. It was all caps.
Not good. And then he switched it to a very serious font.
Yes. So as far as he put effort.
And didn't crop. He didn't crop it.
That's my big issue. Everything else, he tried to format it to make it look as professional as possible while still taking a screenshot of your phone.
And it looked like it was taken from a screenshot of a phone that was an Android, maybe,

because the dimensions were all off on it.

And it's a very sad story, but it's also the NFL loves these stories

where something bad happens before they get drafted.

So Goodell can literally be like, not my problem.

It does make me laugh thinking back about the Laramie Tunsil thing,

where the video came out of him smoking weed in a gas mask on draft night, like right before the draft started.

And then every team was like, we can't be seen drafting this guy.

He smokes weed.

Well, it was the gas mask.

I think if it was just a joint, it would have been a little different.

The gas mask is a visual.

He did look a little bit like a terrorist because he had the mask on and then he had the Confederate flag behind him.

Right.

Here's the thing.

So it's kind of like the ISIS of the South.

And here's the thing it's kind of like the isis of the south and here's the thing if you're smoking weed out of a gas mask that wasn't your first time and that mean like the gas mask is like five or six steps down the weed ladder where it's like you really like to smoke weed again i have no problem with that but you like you you know what i mean like you start getting very creative like a gravity bong gas masks those are both kind of in the same category where it's like you got bored with smoking weed which is almost impossible to do yeah my concern is less the gas mask and more that he was videotaping himself ripping a bong out of a gas mask oh it's cool no no it's cool. To send to your friends? No, it's cool to do, but it's kind of corny behavior.
Oh, I don't know. If you take a video of yourself doing it.
No, sending that to your friends. If I'm smoking a gas mask, my boys don't know about it.
Yeah, dude. What kind of friend am I? That's instant giggles on the test chain.
If you smoke a gas mask and don't send it to me, I'll be offended. Yeah.
Okay. It's actually way bigger of a loser move to smoke out of a gas mask and just never have proof of it.
I don't know about that. Yes.
No, dude. If you're alone smoking with a gas mask, that's addiction behavior.
I'm not out here for clout. Yeah.
No. Oh, yeah.
Right. I'm not.
Guy who does drugs on camera. Yeah.
That's really the only time. It's really.
Yeah. Not here for clout.
There have been times when i have smoked out of a gas mask and didn't record it not recently okay this is yeah before cell phone videos were uh true invented we're gonna get right back to the show my take. the other big story was we had the report cards for all the nfl teams yeah the nflpa great article um seems like the ravens are kind of falling apart because they got an f minus in strength and conditioning and then they had multiple players tweet today being like, yeah, I never was injured, came to the Ravens, got injured.
Sean Bateman was basically like, stop pointing the finger at us. You guys get us injured all the time.
If you look back on the last two years of the Ravens being the most injured team in football, something weird is going on there. It's actually vindication for us as stupid fans.
Whenever we see a bunch of soft tissue injuries, we're always like, they should fire trainer strength and conditioning is a problem i think maybe it is actually a problem with ravens and i actually don't i know you you don't want to talk about this because the commanders were the last but they did not lose in this because the stories that came out of it were the rats in jacksonville and then the big story was the fact that the cardinals charge for dinner yeah there's that's an insane thing the let's be honest the big story that came out of it was the commanders getting an f minus which isn't really a grade an f minus doesn't exist they made up they got straight f's they made up no they got a plus and strength staff yeah or strength staff i think that maybe way better than the raven yeah they did get they did get an f in treatment of families which seems like a pretty jags did too pretty important thing to to be above an F in is how you treat families. Yeah, the Jags were an F in that, and it was because players' wives were breastfeeding on the floor of the restrooms in the stadium.
They didn't give them a space. They didn't have a space for that? Well, I just think that an F minus.
Hank's okay with that. F minus.
I'm saying that makes sense why they got an F for that. And the rats.
They had multiple weeks, they said, of rat information. That's Jacksonville.
So I ran the numbers. Get a cat.
I ran the numbers on the. Get a jack.
Yeah, get a Jaguar to patrol. Put a Jaguar in the fucking locker room.
I ran the numbers on what the GPA should be. I took all the commander's grades and put them into a formula.
and then i even included f minus as being worth negative 0.5 on the gpa scale and they ended up with a 0.9 so an f plus is what they should have gotten f minus doesn't exist if you get an f minus that's good l saying i should drone strike your franchise it should not exist but here's the thing like everyone expected the commanders to be the lowest part the lowest rated team the stories like the bangles off days don't you can't even get a banana that's what they said they're like if you show up they tell you to come in and train in the off days on like tuesdays in the season and the cafeteria is completely closed and if you wanted a banana or a gatorade they don't have have that. Making you pay for meals is bad.
It's really bad.

Rats exist in nature.

Some people eat them on the streets of New York, according to a video that I saw.

There's a long line to wait for the Chargers showers.

Yeah.

That sucks. There should not be a wait for a shower if you're a professional franchise.

Those are the stories.

How is that possible?

Because they share a stadium with the Rams.

No, no, no.

So their facility is under construction. So they're in a warehouse right now.
Their practice facility. Is under construction.
There was a part of the commanders that said they don't have hot water. That's another thing that should probably be important to have as a sports team.
That goes out sometimes. Also, cool plunges are back in.
Joe Rogan's taught us about that. You start your day with a cool plunge and boom you're able to kick anyone's ass that was actually the chargers said that the cool plunge is never cold it's not cold enough that would that would be a plus for me that's so brutal to just be like all right go on cold therapy and they just had and they said the hot tub didn't work a lot so they just have two lukewarm bodies of water in the facility i just think an f minus- is rubbing salt in the wound.
F-, come on. But that was – I mean, it's cool.
I think this is the first year they did this where they did a full – it was almost more than half of the players commented on the poll, totally anonymous. Hopefully teams will be like, oh, shit, maybe we are getting everyone injured.
Shout out to Vikings. The Ravens are the real story because they're in the middle of talking to Lamar Jackson, who has been injured the last two years.
And now players are saying, yeah, their strength. I think there was one guy who said he tore his ACL and they had him doing single leg strength exercises five months later.
And he's like, it still hasn't sat right with me. That shit is like real shit that free agents definitely should pay attention to.
They talk to each other also about that. Right.
The guys are like, yeah, you don't want to go here. They don't care about your health.
Right. I think Matthew Judon says, like, I told my friends on the Ravens that they should fire their strength coach like two years ago.
Who is this guy? We got to fucking find him. He seems kind of awesome.
He probably would kick our ass. He's probably like the best.
Oh, if we met him, we'd be like this guy rules. Football guy.
I would run through a brick wall for this guy. And that's probably something that he has you do when you're rehabbing from a concussion.
Yeah. All right.
Other sports. Big story in the NFL.
Jerry Richardson passed away. Oh, yeah.
RIP. I am wearing jeans for Jeans Friday in his honor.
so he's out and then another jerry fully out fully out very interesting way to talk about someone who just died he's out out dead yeah uh jerry jones has a lawsuit that's just been reinstated against him for uh grabbing a woman in his in his box and then forcing her to kiss him and that got thrown out out a while ago. Now it's back in.
I'm going to say that happened. I've seen enough.
If I were the judge, I'd be like, wait, Jerry Jones grabbed a woman in his box. Yep, that happened.
It allegedly definitely happened. And Jerry at this point should just have a sign up.
You know when you go into a place where they're filming a TV show, it just should say by entering this suite, you consent to being grabbed or having an 80-year-old suck on your face for a couple minutes. Or that takes legal work.
You need a lawyer to set that up. Just have a sign outside of his suite that just says kissing booth.
Yeah, kissing booth. You can't.
I mean, that's legally binding. You go into a kissing booth or maybe just line the entire ceiling with mistletoe by yeah there's nothing that they can do about that i like that by entering the premises you agreed to be softly mauled by a billionaire smooched yeah um i do want to shout out steven a smith he pretended to take a nap today on first take when they were talking about aaron rogers i stand with steven a smith i'm sick of talking about aaron rogersgers okay so that's my Aaron Rodgers update I like it's just like dude stop holding everyone hostage yeah he was he really hammed it up like he was snoring like fully out he's like sorry I don't really care about this how awesome would it be if just no team wanted Aaron Rodgers next year it would be great it would be great they should band together the owners should form a union yeah I guess that is the NFL yeah um all right other sports LeBron is pretty much done.
Three weeks. Three weeks will be reevaluated.
He's got a tendon issue in his ankle. So we're down to nine important games for LeBron.
Yeah. It's this Lakers season is over.
Well, what if the Lakers got good without LeBron? They could. Do you think LeBron would hate that? Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. He would absolutely hate that.
Kevin Durant's back. Looks good.
Fully back. Suns are going to be a problem.
Circle that until Chris Paul and Kevin Durant get injured again. They're a problem.
They're going to be the best, like, woulda, shoulda team if they don't win the title. Like, man, if they didn't get injured.
They're going to win, though. They're going to win.
They're definitely going to win the title. This is the year for Chris Paul.
No, you don't think so, Hank? You don't know Paul. You're back in first.
Yeah. Nice.
Congratulations. Thank you.
So one day out of first place for the Celtics. It was a long, long day.
It was the longest day of your life. Oh, there was also something else that came out of Mike McCarthy's press conference.
He said that him and Kellen Moore had conflicting opinions on how to run Hank's Cowboys last year, how to run the offense. Kellen Moore wanted to score points, as many points as possible and mike mccarthy said not always are points good you need to be able to run the ball and run he even said run the damn ball okay he said i wanted to run the damn ball and kellen moore wanted to score points in this that's a translation mike mccarthy saving his job with jerry jones oh for sure jerry jones paid as you go had a lot of money and was like, we need to run the ball.
Yeah, he said Mike McCarthy thought the Cowboys' problem was they scored too many points. It could be.
Sometimes you score too many points. He was saying it under the guise of I wanted to rest my defense a little bit more often.
Yeah. But Mike McCarthy, I mean, for being such a – you know he's like a diehard analytics guy.
Yeah, PFF. He's got a subscription.
He spent $9.99 a month on his pro football. No, no, no, no.
Oh, dude, he definitely went the $19.99 a month. He went premium? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
So he's a big numbers guy, right? That would be funny, though, if he didn't go premium and he just tried to guess because, you know, how they lock the premium. They lock, like, the grades.
And he was like, well, I think this might be the ranking. He just uses incognito mode.
He's got like three different phones that he can open up, and that's why the Cowboys tail off at the end of the season because he's used all his free articles. Yes, yes.
That's exactly what happened. That's probably what happened.
It is funny to hear Mike McCarthy be like, our problem was Kellen Moore was too focused on scoring points. Yeah, well mike he's the offensive coordinator yeah um all right so the other other thing i had was uh a dude's rock moment that i told you about last night pft uh illinois matthew mayer uh was out with caffeine poisoning so uh he said he drank five monster energy drinks while playing video games on Sunday after the Ohio State game.

And his first day of practice, back of practice, was Wednesday.

That's just a total dude's rock.

That's a long, long time to miss with caffeine.

I mean, he just fucking got locked into a game.

Like, what are you going to do?

He got really hyper.

Yeah.

And then, what, did he have, like, heart palpitations?

It is funny.

Did he go to the hospital and get rehydrated?

What do you do if you have caffeine poisoning? Because a lot of these, like, dumb injuries, like the baseball dumb injuries, I'm always like, why would you even, why would you even admit it? Right. But this one you should admit because I think everyone stands with him.
It's like, all right, dude, if you're gaming and you, and you're doing well and you got to stay up, you should refer to it as a heated gaming moment. Yeah.
I think that,

isn't that what Myers Leonard said about this?

About his little snafu.

Who I think is back.

Myers Leonard kind of back.

Yeah.

Where is he?

He signed a 10 day,

maybe with the Bucs.

Oh,

I was going to say jazz would have been good.

Yeah.

Oh,

they would have loved him.

Yeah.

That would have been a good place.

Maybe with the Bucs.

Myers Leonard.

Also Illinois.

Team up with Bucs.

Team up with Kyrie. Scumbags.
Yeah. All right.
Anything else that we missed? Let's see. No, that's it.
We literally covered everything in sports. Everything in sports.
Conference tournament week is coming, and it's already happening. Shout out.
This is also Peter Schrager, I think, reported this. Iowa State pass rusher Will McDonald IV, I think that's how Roman numerals work, IV, came down with a fever close to 104 degrees on Tuesday evening.
He's insisting on working out today despite still being sick and losing weight over the past 48 hours. That's a very high fever.
Yeah. But also, like, Iowa State pass rusher insists on practicing through fever.
I'm sold. Yeah.

I've seen everything I need to see.

High motor guy.

That's all.

Like, I mean, the Bears' entire draft strategy is they have a hotel suite with ping pong,

darts, and like pool. And they're just testing everyone's competitiveness.

And putt-putt.

Yeah.

They have putt-putt.

I would prefer a guy that's not great at putt-putt.

Yeah.

But that's actually one of those sneaky ones where it's like, if this guy's lights out at putt-putt yeah they have putt-putt I would prefer a guy that's not great at putt-putt yeah but that's actually one of those sneaky ones where it's like if this guy's lights out at putt-putt kind of a creep yeah but just compete just see how they compete compete compete compete compete does sound like small stream stadium yeah it does that'd be funny if we we actually if we were if we were gms of a team and we were drafting players to have them play Jenga versus Frank the Tank would be the ultimate test of their mental toughness.

Yeah, if you can stay focused when that's happening.

The War of 54.

Yeah, I would pay good money to see that, actually.

Yes, yes, that would be incredible.

And have Frank just come up with songs for them.

Yeah.

I would do the thing where it's like the Lions that don't concern themselves with the with the opinion of sheep i would actually have that i would have the sheep yes in my interview room and see if they paid attention to it yes yes absolutely um all right let's get shefty it was a wild ride let's just say that it was a wild ride uh adam shefters brought to you by our friends at Omega Accounting Solutions. Attention, small business owners.
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Schefter, where the fuck is the Des tape? Let's just start. Let's just get right back into it.
Where's the Des? We'll do this every year for the next 25 years, and I'll be like, give me the Des tape. And you'll be like, well, guess what? I don't have it.
It still hasn't surfaced. Okay, all right.
It still hasn't surfaced. That's a bad start.
Excellent use of the passive voice there. Why has it not surfaced yet? You have it in one of those two phones.
It's sort of like one of these tapes that's like missing underwater, at sea, and will one day surface. Like, I was just thinking that I met Sam Ponder's mom at the Super Bowl.
She was on the set the last day. She's an archaeologist.
So she'll find it for us She was telling me that they uncovered something In Israel where she spent Six months of the year Some stones and rocks from Prehistoric times that proved that certain People she may have That's probably how she found The 2013 episode of Barstool Pick'em That's exactly what happened happened. God damn it.
Now let me also say this. What's also funny is I have my own podcast.
Yes. I don't think I've ever been stopped by anybody to this day having that podcast for five years who said to me, hey, Adam, really like your podcast.
But I've been stopped innumerable times by people who say, hey, hurry up. Love you on PMT.
I that happen that's our favorite thing that we hear yeah it's like that's the best it's so true now we have you trapped now that's the thing our fans are best uh like publicity because when they do that and they reaffirm to people it's like yeah that was fun those guys are fun i've never had anybody stop me and say, I really enjoy your podcast. Never once.

Shay will do that, yes.

We're going to get into everything, but give us a quick state

of the league. What's the buzz?

What's going on in Indy?

Everything's being held up right now

by the quarterback in Green Bay.

He's out of the darkness. Once that happens, he's the first

quarterback domino. Then all the other quarterback dominoes

begin to fall. We're waiting on Rodgers.
We're waiting on Derek Carr, who's here in India himself. Lamar Jackson.
We've got a bunch of quarterbacks, right? Nathan Peterman. Nathan Peterman, Blake Bortles.
Heineke. Heineke.
Yeah, Bortles retired. Did you report that? Oh, no, that was us.
We broke that. You guys are the Blake Bortles whispers you guys are the ones that are on that I'm not going to try to compete yes it's an area that I had no luck no shot of competing in as far as Aaron Rodgers goes I remember way way back in the day old school journalism uh Dan Rather went on the air and he took heroin on the air to describe what it's like because it's this new epidemic rather do that he did heroin on did heroin on the air.
Yeah, on the radio. He had a sheriff that locked him in a dark room, administered to it, then he described the effects on the air.
In order to get in Aaron Rodgers' brain, would you ever drink ayahuasca tea and then try to predict what he was going to do? Well, I would say this. I know people were discussing that darkness retreat.
I would love to go on a darkness retreat we said for like honestly you're the father of two kids yeah right you got a third away it'd be great how many kids you have pft uh zero my fictional son chris he's four years old he loves to live tour yeah well there you go yeah okay well anyway you would know what it would be like to escape Chris, the idea of... He's a piece of shit.
What an asshole.

The idea of going into darkness for four days. Yes.
That's what I said. You would get stressed out, though.
You would. Yeah.
Imagine. Because there's an understanding.
You're going in for four days. You're going for four days.
And it's like no phones. Worst four days for you to go in.
Well. On the calendar year.
It would be the draft. Free agency.
Free agency. Without question.
No, no question. Yeah.
You know, a couple of years ago, years ago, I was invited to the Masters for the first time. And my friends invited me down.
I went down there. And it was like, it was right towards the end of the pandemic.
I hadn't traveled. all.
It was the first trip. Fly down there.
And it was really hard to leave your family at that time. Hard thing to do.
Leave work behind. And so I'm going to go to the chorus.
Okay, great. Leave your phones.
Yep. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? Yeah, you were like the scene of Donnie Brasco when he wouldn't take his boots off.
Wait, wait, wait. They said, we weren't going to tell you that in advance because we knew that that would make you not make this trip.
Yes. So you would leave your phone for three days at the Masters.
Literally nothing. No access.
And when that first happens, what you find is that you're sticking your hand in your pocket. Yep.
It's like someone trying to quit cigarettes, I would imagine. You get the shakes.
Like you're reaching into your pocket. The phantom vibrations on your leg, and you think your phone is going off, but you don't even have your phone on you.
Exactly. It was a very weird sensation.
But to go into darkness for four days, no phones? Yeah. You do it? I like it.
So what's the latest, though? It feels like Aaron Rodgers is not going to be on the Packers next year. Is that fair assessment you know here's the thing this has been going on now for three years and I would have thought two years ago that he wasn't going to be on the Packers that year and the two sides circled back and all of a sudden he shows up at training camp but then last year there really wasn't a lot of talk about it.
They get the contract extension done. He stays.
And then this year, there seems to be more and more smoke to the fire. And it's remarkably similar how much his case is like Brett Favre's case.
Yes. Same age, like same years.
And it's almost like history repeating itself. He ultimately has to be the one that's going to break up with them, and I think there are people around the league who believe that the Packers are perfectly fine with that.
Here's the thing. You've got two quarterbacks there.
So if Rodgers says, I want to come back, guess what? Now we're going to spring a leak on Jordan Love. Like, is Jordan Love going to want to be there? Right.
So somebody doesn't fit in Green Bay. Right.
We're just waiting for the man to emerge from the darkness to tell us which quarterback that's going to be. You don't think that there's a world where the Packers tell Aaron Rodgers, like, straight up, it's probably best if we split ways.
They're doing all the waiting, and Aaron's doing all the deciding? But they could do that, but why wouldn't they have done it already? They seem to be waiting. It almost is, to me, it's like both sides are passive-aggressive about this.
Both sides seem to want to break up, but nobody's willing to be the one to break up. And I remember a couple of years ago, it felt to me, it just felt to me like he was the one that wanted out, but he didn't want to say, I want out, because he didn't want to be the one that was being blamed for ending that relationship he didn't want to be brett farve right because he grew he came into the league behind brett farve he saw what brett was doing he's like i'm never going to be this ass it's like when he grew up saying i'm not going to be like my dad it's cats in the cradle yeah and then someday played that after i had my son which was the meanest thing that's anyone ever one day one day you start like mispronouncing words like your dad did.
You start doing things. He's doing stuff like Brett Favre did.

So now he's going... Is this your

way of saying he's going to go to the Jets?

Well, to me, that is the one that makes

the most sense by far.

If he is going to be traded,

that's the place it would be.

Give us an off-the-radar one that people

aren't thinking about. With

Rodgers? Yes.

We've heard Jets. I think some people

float around. Maybe Raiders.
I think the Panthers

if you're not going would be a good team. But I don't think the Packers want to send him in the NFC.
Yeah. So now we're back to the AFC.
But wouldn't they want to send him in the NFC? Because he's not good in the NFC playoffs. So, like, it's actually a bonus.
Like, hey, if we play him in the NFC Championship game, we're going to win. That would be one way of looking at it.
But, you know, when you think about the NFC South for one moment, all these teams that are looking to get a new quarterback, if somebody trades up for one, somebody signs one, somebody trades for one, wherever it is, there's a real opportunity there. We've got Kyle Trask in Tampa, Desmond Ritter in Atlanta.
Aren't they giving Kyle Trask free reign to interview new coaches? They wanted his input when they hired Dave Canales. We got Kyle Trask's blessing on that.
So Stephen Shea is in the room right now, and when you said the words NFC South, I'm not kidding, he was in the middle of a bite, and he froze his hands and wouldn't move until you finished. Well, here's the thing.
He could look forward to Kyle Trask being his quarterback. Yeah.
No, he already has. He's already talked himself into it.
Delusional. And then, I mean, are the Saints going to run back? Is Jameis on? He's under contract right now.
There's a cap savings if they move on there. They've checked in with Derek Carr.
Obviously, they had enough interest there that they brought him into New Orleans, have met with him at the Combine. So clearly they're looking to add to the position.
Carolina, we don't know who's playing there. So literally there is a quarterback question with every team in that, except Tampa, where we know Kyle Trask.
And you're saying, so you're saying once Aaron Rodgers makes the decision, then we'll see all these other guys. Now, Derek Carr could always say, you know what, I'm not waiting for Aaron Rodgers anymore.
But I think that Aaron Rodgers is the first QB domino. I think once he decides, well, now look, this could blow up, right? By the time you run this podcast.
Yeah. That would be so funny if you were so wrong.
Yeah, I could look like a total fool. Wouldn't be the first time.
Congrats on being the first on Tom Brady's retirement. Yeah, by about exactly one year.
I have a theory. Yeah, I have a theory about that.
You had it again this year, but you didn't want to become the ire of like all this hate. You know, it's funny.
There was a night where we were driving back from my first encounter with Mr. Che over there in Tampa.
It was in December. We were going back to the hotel.
I was in with Larry Fixger. We walk into the lobby of the hotel there where the Brady's, the parents, always stayed.
And Larry knows the parents very well. And so they come over and they say, this is Adam Schefter.
Hey, Mr. Brady, how you doing? So we had the chance to talk then.
There was no mention about anything at the moment. They probably don't like you.
You know what? He was very pleasant and enjoyable to talk to. He did not bring it up.
But did you have it this year? You had it this year. I think you had it.
No. And you were like, I'm not going to do this again.
No, I didn't. We're going to let this guy retire on his own terms and not try to cock the entire.
But clearly, he wanted to do it his way this year. Because it happened so quick.
I'm like driving my daughter to school. Tom Brady just retired again one year.
Wow, that was quick. Yeah.
Again. He probably had that timed out.
Knowing him, he's like, all right, Schefter takes his daughter to school. Well, and the second way, the funny part is we go back to Tampa.
We go back to Tampa for the playoff game, and I'm going back with Susie Colburn. We get to the elevator after the game, and who gets into the elevator that night? Tom Brady's parents.
Again, second time. Same hotel.
Almost like the same schedule. They're following you.
Yeah. That's how they know when you're taking your daughter to school.
I think it's the other way around. I think Brady's parents were like, Schefter's on to you again.
Yeah. Well, the great part was.
He's showing up in all these places on us. We said, sorry about the game.
He said, yeah. And Mr.
Brady said, yeah, well, it was a hell of a way to end. If that's the way it ends.
He caught himself right away. And I said, don't worry, Mr.
Brady, we're going to leave you alone this year. We don't want anything.
Now, do you count the first retirement of Tom Brady? That's a mark on your record because he didn't fully retire. I got a lot of marks on your record.
Yeah, no, but that one, we count that against you, right? If we're doing a full tally, because I think that will just be your obituary someday, hopefully a long time from now. It will just be the ones you got right and ones you got wrong.
I would prefer that you give the mark to Jeff Darlington, but that's just okay. How does that work when you're doing a co-scoop with somebody like that, and it's like per Jeff Darlington and me.
How do you guys both put out a scoop at the same time? Well, in that particular case last year. Oh, oh, oh.
Yeah, go ahead. Go for it.
What is it? Hold on a second. No, he's going to prank us.
Announce Lamar Jackson and the commanders. He's pranking us.
He's pranking us. Let me see it.
Hold on. Okay.
Announce is from Dan Snyder saying. No one's allowed to tweet, right? No one's allowed to tweet.
Yeah, Dan Snyder just said, hey, thank you so much for sending us that first draft. There's no way.
It's good to go. There's no fucking way this is real.
You're setting me up. We're not going to run this.
No one's allowed to tweet. What does it say? This is a setup.
This will be awesome. This is a setup.
I'm being set up. Hank, are you in on this? It's something about Lamar Jackson.
We don't say who sent it. Well, I'm not going to say who sent it, but if this is true...
We saw the person, right? You saw the person?

I'm a psychic.

Just a heads up.

Just a little heads up this deal.

We could say it now.

It's coming out Friday.

And if you tell us, we'll edit it out.

Okay. But no tweeting, right?

No tweeting.

We know everyone in this room.

Steven's showing his hands. We don't need to see your hands, Steven.
Just a little heads up. This deal with Washington Lamar has started to pick up.
With what they're offering, it's now looking like it'll get agreed to tonight. Someone here will keep you posted when it's about to be finalized.
I want you to be ready. Talk soon.
Oh, man. This is not real.
This is not real. You're setting us up.
This is a setup. You're setting us up.
We set you up with Colin Kaepernick when you first came on our show. We tried to trick you.
This is a lie. You fucked me on Carson Wentz last year.
I got you on Carson Wentz. Yeah, but you fucked me.
You gave me Carson Wentz. What's the next? I contracted Carson Wentz from you.
No, no, no. What do you want to respond? Hold on.
What's your response? I'm with the PMT guys. They don't believe it.
Say, yeah. Say, yeah.
PMT broke this three months ago out of wishful thinking. I don't think he's replying any of that.
This isn't real. This isn't real.
I mean, it would be an all-time moment if it is real. It's not real.
Hey, PMT, let me be the first to congratulate you on him. He remembered that last year.
With PNP guys, they don't believe it. Here we go.
Ready? Yeah. Wait.
I would like to be the first to congratulate you. Take a look.
Take a look. You would not send that to him if you would not want him to know that we knew.
Okay. I'm seeing.
There's nothing. What about the past text? I'm seeing.
I'm looking. I'm looking.
I'm looking. I'm looking.
I'm looking. I'm looking for this whole phone.
It's not him. Grab Schefter.
It's not him. This is the setup.
I got bubbles. I got bubbles.
I got bubbles. I'm not bullshitting.
Oh, shit. Ian Rappaport just tweeted about that.
Hold on. Bubbles.
Bubbles. Bubbles.
PFT, I was the first to congratulate you. It's not a stop.
No, no. It's not real.
I wanted to. It's not real.
I congratulated you first. And Hank, you were so wrong.
It's not real. You were so wrong, Hank.
It's not real. There's a lot of bubbles.
About Lamar going to Washington. Have you seen the photoshops that we've done? Did that have anything to do with it? Okay.
Okay. Not sure if we've seen anything like this.
All right. We probably shouldn't say all this.
Okay. All right.
It looks. That doesn't look like it could be fake oh no he said who about the pmt guys oh shit we have his number chef d or be honest hold on hold on hold on is that real i didn't get there because this exact scenario is coming down my fan fiction that i read damn did i tell you about Carson Wentz last year? Yes.
You did, and you're a piece of shit for it. You ruined my year.
And? You want to read that? I mean, you read that. No, we see it.
It's not real. It's not real.
All right. Okay.
So what are you going to do? What do you do with this information? Because if this breaks before the podcast comes out, it will be an all-time podcast. So tell us what the next step is.
Well, hopefully. But what is your next step? Do you then go source it somewhere else? Or you just let it rip? I would let it rip.
When I get done with the podcast. Okay.
I will call this gentleman. Do you want to take a break? No.
Okay. So this is why.
Because he says it's coming on tonight. Okay.
Here's why it's not real. Because you would be on Twitter right now.
No, because it's not coming. I can't say anything right now.
He was getting a heads up. He said just a heads up.
Adam, do you swear to God? I swear to you. Look.
You didn't swear to God. What does swear to God mean? Yeah, you're not going to swear to God.
Swear to God. You're not swearing to God.
Let's read the second text. That really hurt, though.
The second text. Hold on.
He says, not sure I've seen anything like this. As it heated up, Dan Snyder jumped in to take it to the finish line by adding another first round pick and fully guaranteeing six years.
I mean, I would love that. He has to be viewing this as his last move in Washington before he sells.
That's how it looks to me. We'll be back in touch soon.
Please keep it quiet for now until this is all done.

If this is a prank,

this is the meanest thing.

You have made a very powerful enemy.

You know what I'm going to do?

If this is a prank,

I'm bringing back my dead dog, Leroy.

And he's going to beat you

to every scoop possible.

I've been out of the scoop game for a while.

I have five dogs,

and they have Leroy envy.

Yeah, I bet they do

because Leroy's a great boy. But this is this is mean this is podcasting history though if shefter if this ends up happening shefty we owe you like i mean you you brought the goods literally unfolding as we're sitting here yeah okay holy shit now i'm now i'm just happy but i i'm also sad because i know that that this is all fake yeah like i'm 100% sure this is fake, but I'm still ecstatic about just imagining it happen.
Yeah. Okay, all right.
Let's do a palate cleanser. Have you stood next to Bryce Young yet? How tall is he? We got to reset.
How tall is he? For real? They're saying six foot, right? Yeah, he's not six foot. Have you stood next to him? No.

McShay said he's 5'10 1⁄2", and that he'd be scared to death of drafting him.

But listen, if we could get you standing next to him. I heard McShay say that he was like a smallish Patrick Mahomes.

Yeah, Minnie Mahomes is one of the Mahomes.

Minnie Mahomes, right?

And like the Steph Curry of the NFL.

Yeah, because he played point guard as a kid.

Steph Curry's also like 6'3", which is something that people forget.

But he was much shorter than everybody else in the league at the time.

True.

Right?

So what's he going to measure in at?

My guess is 5'11".

Okay.

Get a couple of tricks.

Sounds like he's hired a nutritionist to put on extra weight.

So maybe you come in 195, 200.

You really don't need a nutritionist for that.

You could hire us.

Just start eating donuts, right?

Yeah, pretty much.

It's not that hard.

Hang with Big Cat on Saturday mornings.

There's your 10 pounds.

Sit on your couch, watch college basketball, eat donuts.

I don 15 pounds. I want to jump back to maybe the best quarterback in the league.
We briefly glossed over him, Jameis Winston. We love Jameis.
Dude, congrats on the line. Stop it.
Just congrats. It's a big setup.
That's a fucking huge BFT. Just because Steven's in the room doesn't mean everyone catches his guibility.
BFD, you and I are now lockstep. When people say that our quarterbacks are running backs, we got to fucking just – we're like the Avengers.
All right, yeah, I guess I'm happy about it, but it's not real. Yeah, we just fucking go on.
We just Facebook people who say they're running backs. How happy will you be when that deal's finalized? I will come.
Yeah. No, seriously, I'm going to ejaculate.
He will. It's not going to be sexual or anything.
It's just my body's... But they threw in an extra one, and they're guaranteeing six years now.
That's fine. This is what makes me so suspicious, is because the way that you're presenting this right now is exactly how I laid it out in my fan fiction, that Snyder's selling the team, he would have no problem fucking over the next owner of the Washington Commanders, while also giving a fully guaranteed contract to fuck over every other owner in the NFL and at the same time having it be his last legacy.
Here's Lamar Jackson. But you're good with it.
If it happens, I'm very good with it. How could you not be good with it? It's Lamar Jackson.
So you envisioned the future and manifested it to happen. Yeah, kids use drugs occasionally.
Expand your brains. Now, here's the thing.
We have on the table either an all-time moment of breaking news, even though it will already be broken by the time this comes out, or the greatest prank that has ever been pulled by a guy who I didn't think had it in him. And if that is the case, my hat's off to you, sir.
I've decided for the rest of this interview to believe you, just because it's more fun living in that world Do you accept my congratulations? Yeah, thank you I'm going to believe it because I want to believe it Yeah, it's huge That explains a lot about the world It's huge Jameis Winston, though So he's one of our favorite quarterbacks What the hell happened last year? Our theory was that he got injured early on Yep, he did And then the team somehow mismanaged his injury They were afraid to put him back in as the season progressed because of something that was going on behind the scenes. Why did they stay with Andy Dalton? Why not James last year? It's not going to be the answer you want.
I think they liked Andy Dalton. I think Andy Dalton is somebody that goes where he does, and people kind of like the guy.
He's a nice guy. Really nice guy.
I think he's a better quarterback than people realize. I do.
I kind of like Andy Dalton as a quarterback. I do too.
He could quarterback my team. Well, he's a nice guy.
Do you like him in Chicago? He's a nice guy. I think we've said enough.
See, that year, he went to Chicago. He should have gone to San Francisco.
San Francisco was interested at that time. That would have been a good move.
And you would have seen that he was a better quarterback than people realize. So I just think that they started rolling with Dalton.
They kind of liked it. Never went back to your guy, Jameis.
Okay. I don't like that, though, because Jameis – the league is more exciting when Jameis wins as playing quarterback.
He's fun. Yeah.
He's fun. Let's talk about a very important subject, Sodgate.
Isn't that amazing? I mean, you agree with me. Asmina Kimes dubbed it turf wars.
George Tomah calling out the NFL. He threw everyone under the bus, which makes me think he's even more responsible for what happened.
I mean, that field, that was not, we should replay the Superbowl. You know, it was amazing? I think Philadelphia agrees.
Yes. Philadelphia agrees.

And I agree, too.

I have no dog in this fight. You are kind of running PR for him, though.

For the sod father.

You let him get his explanation out that they overwatch.

You're doing propaganda for his little grass food that he put out there.

All I did was I posted to the article that ESPN posted with the guy that wrote it. That's all I did.
And yet... Sounds like Kyrie's excuse.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Well, you know, what was amazing to me is on Super Bowl Sunday, I'm watching the game with a few of my ESPN colleagues who played the game and know a lot more about it than I do. They picked up on the field within moments.
Yeah. They're all over the field.

Randy Moss, Teddy Bruschi, Matt Hasselbeck.

They're like, this field is horrendous.

What's the deal?

And the regular groundskeeper for the Cardinals, his last name is Levy.

Okay, good. The Guardian is one of the best sod groundskeepers that there is in the league.

And somehow George Tomer got involved, and now the field was overwatered.

Overwatered.

And I think PFT's theory was exactly right.

What?

Nick Sirianni's tears contributed to this.

Oh, that's true.

He was leaking on the field for the game.

He wet him up.

Can't cry that much on the field and expect that there's going to be no effect.

Does the NFL see that as an issue, or are they just like, nah, it was good enough?

Well, I can tell you this much.

That grass, they grow outside the stadium

and they bring it in. Las Vegas

also does it that way.

Las Vegas is the site of the Super Bowl next year. I guarantee

you that this is not going to be

repeated next year and they're going to make sure

that that grass is

not over watered, that no head coaches

are allowed to cry. The national anthem

before it is going to be a memo passed.

They may vote on that at the owners meetings this year.

Just have a terrible national anthem. Have Fergie come out.

Yeah, something that's upbeat and not as patriotic and as emotional as the version this year. And no crying.
Yeah. No crying.
It was a great week for the Super Bowl. I heard you had a fantastic week leading up to the game.
Let me tell you something. This was an unbelievable story.
So, we finished, I finished doing the 6 o'clock SportsCenter one night. Now, I never, never go out.
Super Bowl week. Like, my wife has never seen me drunk to this.
She's a little annoyed by the whole thing. Yeah.
So I get a text right after the 6 o'clock SportsCenter from PFT's friend Diana and Jeff Darlington. They're at a bar that's like two storefronts down from the set.
They said, come on by here. I'm like, okay.
So we go there. One of my college buddies came by.
Four of us were sitting around there for two hours. Two hours that you would never expect to have.
Totally unplanned. Totally spontaneous.
We're in Old Town. It's called friendship.
Yep. Okay.
I don't know what that that is What a novel concept To break out of my Little shell Into this world That's known as Friendship Wow You go to a bar And have fun I didn't know that this thing Happens in life Like to me It's all darkness Like Aaron Rodgers But there was light We had the upstairs We're drinking Did you guys laugh? We had a great time But here's the great part here's the great part so afterwards we're gonna go to my favorite Houston's I love Houston's and there's a lot of traffic can't get Ubers so they had these golf cart rides that you could take wherever you want three rows Jeff Darlington gets in the back row me and Diana Rossini get in the middle row. And the driver gets in the front row.
We start driving down the main street out of Old Town. And this woman in a truck pulls up next to our golf cart.
And she points at Jeff Darlington. And she says, you.
And he said, me? He said, yeah. 480-321-1968.

What?

And she said, that's my number.

Why don't you come back with me tonight?

Jeff's like, I'm married.

And she's like, that's your loss.

She turns and points to our rope, to Diana, and says, you.

480-321-1968.

And Diana got embarrassed, turns.

No, no.

Thank you, ma'am. I'm not interested.
She rolls up her window and says, you're lost and drives up. Oh, no.
I'm saying that. How do you think I felt that everybody in that golf cart except me got propositioned? Yeah.
That's. Yeah.
So it was a great night while we were out drinking at the bar. And then.
Well, I got to tell you. We can make it up to you.
I mean, Jeff. I might live stream it, actually.
Jeff is a handsome guy. Yep.
Diana's a beautiful woman. The woman didn't give two craps.
We'll work our way up there. That's how I know that I'm past my prime.
Well, it's night one. You go out and you learn how to have drinks socially with people.
Then night two, we'll work on the one night stand later. Yeah.
Yeah. My wife will like that.
Yeah. She'll appreciate that.
Yeah, but Jeff and Diana both got propositioned and then hit on. That's an amazing story.
And I didn't. And that's the way it goes.
You're never going to go out with friends again. That's how it ends up.
You're like, this is why I don't go outside. You go with friends that make you feel good, right? They made me feel bad.
Yeah. Bad about myself.
Yeah. All right.
Can we talk? Yes, it was a very fun Super Bowl. And I look forward to your live stream later.
Yeah, that's awesome. Your live stream, literally.
Yeah. If you build it, i will come um can we talk about the number one pick real quick absolutely all right so i have a couple questions one is uh your tweet that was like announcing the bears are officially okay to trade this that was a scheduled tweet wasn't it it happened exactly at 7 a.m no you scheduled that the night no because i.
No, because I posted something right before that, Jalen Carter, before he had trouble.

No, I've never scheduled the tweet in my life.

Ever?

I don't even know how to do it.

Okay.

Don't even know how to do it. Okay.

Truly.

All right.

Well, you should let us schedule the Lamar Jackson news for later tonight.

We're going to have to start.

As soon as this ends, we are writing up.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Are we getting on it?

Tell me.

That they're closing in on finalizing it.

I want you to tell me, when are you going to be able to break this?

You see the text.

I'm sorry. writing up.
Okay, alright. They're closing in on finalizing it.
I want you to tell me when are you going to be able to break this? You see the text. Could you imagine? This is like the plot to speed in NFL circles.
We get Adam Schefter's log in. It's now looking like it'll get agreed to tonight.
Okay. It can't process it.
I gotta put a future in on the commanders. No, you can't do that.
That's illegal. Okay.
It's now looking like it'll get agreed to tonight. Okay.
Agree to. They can't process it.
I got to put a future in on the commanders. No, you can't do that.
That's illegal. Okay.
It's now looking like it'll get agreed to tonight. Keep you posted when it's about to be finalized.
Just want you to be ready. Yeah, I won't put a future in because I don't want you to feel like we're using you for your information.
Hank, if you want to log on to the Barstool Sportsbook. That would be inside information.
Yes, that would be insider training. Maybe a dime.
Listen, if this is real, you should let us log into your Twitter account and schedule a tweet at 7 p.m. And it's like he has to get the news.
But I don't know what time it's going to be. Before the tweet goes off.
Yeah, you know what would be awesome is if this whole thing was a ruse and we scheduled that tweet and then you had to pull strings behind the scenes to make it actually happen. Yeah, yeah.
To be right. Yes.
Have you ever influenced a trade?

Influenced a trade?

Yeah.

Have you ever?

You know, you're always hearing all these things,

so I don't know how I would have influenced one.

Yeah.

You don't ever pull, like, the parent trap thing where you call up the Jets and you're like, hey, I hear Aaron Rodgers really likes you.

Call up Aaron Rodgers.

Hey, I hear the Jets really like you.

That sort of thing.

Matchmaker?

Aaron has to return my calls. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. So he called you out.
What did you think about that? He called you out big time. He's like, Schefter doesn't know shit about me.
I know. So you – That's – It's just how it goes? It's fine.
Okay. It is what it is.
I mean, he's a bad guy, so it's fine. Sorry, so number one pick.
What are the Bears going to get for it? Well, you know what the great part is? You could trade, if you wanted, maybe to two and then go from two to four and four to six. But what I think, I think you want to be in the range where you are assured of getting either Will Anderson.
And I would have said Jalen Carter, and I still think Jalen Carter, but let's see what happens legally now with this pending situation, tragic situation

that killed two people in Georgia on January 15th.

So you want to leave yourself in a position,

if you're the Bears, to somehow come away

with one of those blue chip players, if you can,

and still get a bevy of...

So what do you think they get if they go one to four?

Do they get first rounder next year?

Oh, yeah.

Second rounder this year?

Well, hold on.

First of all, the Niners went from 12 to three right and gave up three ones yep okay so to go from one to four it's a minimum of two ones and then some and then some oh yes like it's it's a lot like this is an unbelievable windfall for them that the Houston Texans

allowed Davis Mills and Brandon Cooks to play.

Brandon Cooks had over 100 yards of receptions.

What are you doing?

I know Lovie Smith.

See, the players, they're always going to play to win

because they're trying to prove themselves in the contracts.

Always.

But somebody should have stepped in and said,

what are we doing here?

We're going to sit this guy.

We're going to sit that guy.

No, no, no.

I know you're going to try to win, and I wish you the best

Thank you. Yeah.
Always. But the, I mean, somebody should have stepped in and said, what are we doing here? Yeah.
Like, we're going to sit this guy. We're going to sit that guy.
No, no, no. When, I know you're going to try to win and I wish you the best, but we're not going to try to win.
It was the best day of my year. Oh my God.
Yeah. It was unbelievable to watch that.
That fourth down completion. Yeah.
Was it like fourth and 11? Yeah, the mid-Max go bowl. Yeah.
It was incredible. Yeah.
He had to bowl for like eight hours and eat 14 hot dogs because of that. So it was great.
You know what it reminded me of? It reminded me of the Jets going into Los Angeles a couple of years ago when they hadn't won a game yet. Yes.
They were in the number one spot to be able to take Trevor Lawrence. They beat the Rams and fell out of the number one slot.

They won two games down the stretch. They won two games down the stretch,

but that was the one that kind of got them rolling.

And then Jacksonville jumped them.

But the Jets will always have that big win in LA to look back on.

It is crazy.

Yeah, the sliding doors are insane.

Sliding doors, I mean.

It's nuts to think about all of them.

How about the Philadelphia Eagles last year

tried to sign Allen Robinson during free agency.

They thought they had a deal done.

It's nuts to think about all of them. How about the Philadelphia Eagles last year tried to sign Allen Robinson during free agency.
They thought they had a deal done. It fell apart.
He goes to Los Angeles, and they're stuck trading for A.J. Brown.
Pretty good. And Allen Robinson is in L.A.
How do you think the Rams feel about having Allen Robinson under contract? $15 million guaranteed this year. Is Justin Fields definitely going to be the better starter next year? I expect him to be the starter.
I don't know why that would be different. Well, I threw out the theory, and I don't want this to happen, but could potentially, is there any smoke around the Bears potentially trading both the one and Justin Fields and getting all the draft picks? Well, I would argue the other way.
If you're the Bears, you just stay in your spot and take a quarterback. But what if you don't like any of these guys? Bryce Young is 5'9".
But you know, quarterbacks are the most valuable commodities in all of sports. And you remember, I think it was Jimmy Johnson.
They had Troy Aikman and they used their first pick in the supplemental draft on the Miami quarterback, Steve Walsh. And then eventually they traded Steve Walsh, I believe, to Minnesota.
And so quarterbacks are something that are currency. So while we're talking about trading that pick for multiple ones and other draft goodies, you could take a quarterback, and if he is really good, you could look at both quarterbacks and trade one of the quarterbacks for a lot also.
It's just another way. Do I think that's going to happen? No.
No, I want Justin Fields to be the Bears quarterback. I think he will be the quarterback.
I just don't know. Like, I think the Bears should keep everything open to try to maximize all of this.
Because it is a once-in-a-lifetime situation to have the number one pick and also think you have your franchise quarterback at the same time. You would hope and you would think that they will never be in this position ever again.
No, they probably will. They probably will next year.
That's a possibility might happen. Are the Bears going to move to Arlington Heights? That sounds like it's definitely happening.
Are you going to move to Arlington Heights? I will not. Listen, if they want to build us a fun factory out there, we'll do stuff out there.
They should do that when they're building the stadium. I don't think the Bears would do that for us.
But it will happen, right? It's going to happen. I.
Because I'm thinking it's... I expect it to, yes.

Okay, all right, good.

Thank you.

And if the quarterback... You want to?

Yes.

Oh, dude.

A new stadium is like everything.

They play in a fucking rinky-dink,

so it's beautiful by the lake,

but it's not a good facility.

It's a beautiful stadium.

No, it's beautiful by the lake.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

But the stadium is kind of weird.

No, it's the smallest stadium in the NFL.

The best part about Soldier Field

is the overhead shots from the blimp.

When they show, like,

here's where it's being played.

It looks beautiful, right?

Yeah, and you see Lincoln Park. It's hard to get in.
It's hard to get out. Is that Lincoln Park or Washington Park? No, there's Grant Park right there.
Grant Park, Grant Park, Grant Park. Yeah.
And the old stadium that they played in, that was beautiful looking. Which one? Oh, yeah, before they renovated it.
Yeah, they basically put a spaceship on top of Soldier Field. That's exactly right.
Soldier Field in its initial construct, I thought it was kind of looked like a Roman Coliseum kind of thing. But it's time to modernize.
It's like you can't have the smallest stadium in the NFL, especially if this team gets sold at some point in the future. I remember being in graduate school and going to games at Soldier Field, seeing Barry Sanders trampled over the Bears.
Wait, where'd you go to graduate school? Northwestern. Oh, okay.
You know they lost their accreditation. Yes.
So no longer an actual journalism program. Well, it's the way it goes.
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And now back to Adam Schefter. Who would you say is more influential on the Northwestern community? You or Darren Revell? Darren Revell.
Yeah, to a detriment. All right, so speaking of college, your coach is going to just keep doing this every year, huh? Jim Harbaugh.
Look, I think people will approach him, but I think after a while, he'll always be a desirable guy because he's a great coach. But I think at some point NFL teams say people went there and they just move on to the next guy.
That's my guess. So I think for the benefit of the Michigan football program, I think he's going to be at Michigan for a while.
I think he's shown that he loves the school, loves the players. Even this year, ultimately he couldn't pull himself away from it.
And there were people who thought he might. It just didn't happen.
And if he didn't do it last year in Minnesota, he didn't do it this year in Denver, why is he going to do it next year for Team X? Is that team next year going to be more or less likely after these two years to go after him? If he wins a national championship, he's going to be really hot. He's a great coach and he'll always be attractive, but I think the more time that goes by...
That makes sense. He half-assed the whole flirting with the NFL process this year.
I think he likes having the leverage. He likes getting more money.
But he did what, like a Zoom interview for the Broncos? Yeah, initially. For their job, yeah.
Did he do one in person as well? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.
I thought it was all done remotely. He did both.
That was close. So the Broncos end up going with Sean Payton.
Sean Payton's going to come in and fix Russell Wilson. Is Russell Wilson fixable? I think Sean Payton thinks he is.
You know, here's the thing. These two guys have really liked and respected each other for a while.
And, you know, they've wanted to be, like, Sean Payton was the guy, no matter how many other candidates Denver went through, that Russell Wilson was praying for. Right.
That was the guy he wanted. It would have been the guy that he would have handpicked at the beginning of the process.
And Sean Payton has always liked and respected Russell Wilson's game. And look, here's the deal.
Russell's got a lot riding on the year, right? So if anybody's going to get it out of him, it's going to be Sean Payton. And if Sean Payton can do it, then great.
He gets Russell back to where he was. And if not, then Russell's time in Denver probably won't be very long.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, which would be crazy if it ends that quickly. And his quarterback coach is going to be Davis Webb.
That, to me, is the most bizarre part of this entire story. Well, you know what's interesting? Last year, Buffalo wanted Davis Webb to be its quarterback coach.
And people have been touting this guy as a coach to be in training for a while now. He wound up going to the Giants to back up Daniel Jones, started a game, turned out to be a swan song as a player.
And all of a sudden, he goes into Denver, meets with Sean Payton. I don't know that Sean Payton was thinking that he was going to hire this guy.
Like, there was no real connection. There were other people that had worked with Davis Webb, had trained with Davis Webb, knew what kind of guy he was.
Sean Payton met him that one day, I believe it was a Friday, and was like, I'm hiring this guy. That's crazy.
And they hired him as the quarterback's coach. And I think in time, we'll see how it develops.
Davis Webb will be an NFL head coach. He'll be down the line.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, but it's so bizarre to go from being a backup quarterback that's objectively not very good.
Who's younger by four or five years than the quarterback he's going to be coaching up. Yeah, so is Russell going to be able to, like, listen to this guy as a coach? Yeah, listen.
Again, I think Russell knows how much he's riding on this season. So whether it's Davis Webb or Sean Payton.
He's got to listen to everyone. Yeah, like, you've got to address some things here.
Like, last year didn't go the way that anybody wanted. So what can you do to be better? And if Davis Webb can help unlock some of that, then great.
Can I ask you just a serious question about the commanders? And you can tell me, I guess, on a scale of whether I should go on continuing to live or whether I should just jump off the side of this building, will Dan Snyder actually sell this team? I think he's going to sell the team. There you go.
This is the best interview of your life. You've got Dan selling and you're getting a new quarterback.
I'm getting there, Adam. Right? I'm getting close.
It's pretty good, right? You're getting the elbow. Let me make my chair back.
It's going to be like a Gallagher concert. Watch out.
But you actually think that he's going to sell the team? I do. That's my opinion.
Like, I don't think you go down this road and have people touring the building and have as many people around the league looking at you in the way that you do with all these investigations and all these people. We know how the fans in Washington feel.
Like, why does he want to stay around for that? Right. Like a sicko.
Go, go take your $6.3 billion and go live in, in London. Go, go, go have a great life.
Right. Like, what do you need that for? I don't know.
So tied up into his life and it's such an important. The only thing is like, if you have that much money, like the only thing I'd want to do is buy an NFL team.
Yeah. And also the only thing I'd want to do, if you have fuck you money, you need people need people to say fuck you to with it right and now he has a lot of people so if he goes off lives in London by himself he has nobody to piss off and I I genuinely think that he likes pissing people off I think he's that miserable of a human being well again there's just too much smoke you can't go down this road and think that it's not going to continue going.

Now, I think by the start of the new year, I think there's a new owner to go with your new quarterback.

And maybe that's his little swan song.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yes.

I have to give you some credit.

You did the shirtless Kirk Cousins change.

Yeah.

You didn't look that bad.

I said it right away.

I was like, I want to make fun of Shefty. It's like almost knee jerk reaction You do something, assault, we make fun of you But I saw it and I was like You know what? Shefty for his age 56 You look great for 56 You looked incredible for 56 You looked awesome So credit to you You know the back story with that is we do this Come On Man meeting every Monday, 2 o'clock Eastern.
Producer has some Come On Mans picked out. We go over them.
They wanted to give the Come On Man of Kirk Cousins to Robert Griffin III, his former teammate. We want you to do this.
I remembered when Stevie Johnson with the Buffalo Bills caught a huge pass, game-winning pass, came out to the press conference, and he was wearing a white tank top. And Chris Carter that night had Stevie Johnson as the last, come on, man.
Like, Stevie Johnson, you catch the game-winning pass, and this is how you come to the press conference? This is how the country's going to see you in this white tank top? What the hell are you doing? And they come out of it, and there's Chris Carter in the same white tank top that Stevie Johnson was wearing. I always remember that.
It just was kind of cool. So when they told RG3, hey, we want you to do the Kirk Cousins, I'm like, RG3, you've got to take your shirt off after and have the chains on.
And he's like, nah, nah, nah. Didn't want to do it.
And I was like, oh, I'm just telling you, I think you should do it. And he's like, let me call my wife.
Let me talk to her about it. And the answer came back, no, he didn't want to do it.
So we're riding over to the stadium and this is how high level decisions are made at ESPN, right? We're riding over to the stadium, me and Denzel, the 22 year old production assistant and my producer, Matt Garrett. And I said to Matt Garrett, Big Red, I said, maybe I'll take my shirt off.
And he goes, that and i go i let me let me call the boss so i called the boss seth markman i'm like what do you think about taking my shirt off he goes ask denzel i go denzel what do you think he goes absolutely yeah let me call my wife she said absolutely so i'm like all right we'll try this now uh people that work around the set, like Jess Krause and Jody Brits, they wrangled up a bunch of chains, like real. Like, I had some valuable stuff on there.
They gathered it together, and we start to come on, man. And Robert Griffin III does that one.
And the interim, I'm on the field in the Mercedes Superdome. And first of all, it's freezing in there, like if you couldn't tell.
Like, I'm just telling you, it was freezing. I take my my shirt off and I knew that something was going to be a little bit off because when I took the shirt off, there was a band on the field.
It was almost like the music stopped and everybody in the band is looking at me. And so I put all the chains on.
We do it. I get my cell phone back and within 30 seconds, there were 39 text messages.
Like I had front office people that I would never hear from saying, I don't know what the hell you're doing, but I'm cracking up on my cat. Like serious people.
It shows you're down. That's like, that makes the story even better.
You know what? I'll do it. You take your job seriously, but you don't take yourself too seriously.
Exactly. It was improvement on the gritty from last year.
Yeah. Which is crazy.
Well, listen, we like to have some fun. I'm usually the one that is up for some of this stuff.
It's not really planned. That was a spontaneous thing as we're on the way to the stadium.
It just kind of happened. Yeah.
So, all right, we've got a couple more questions because we know you've got to break this news in a second. What's the big story that's coming up that we don't have our eyes on? I think you gave us one last year.
Maybe there's mumblings going on. Something big that you could see coming.
Could be ownership. Could be rules.
Well, I think there are more teams for sale than just Washington. Oh, I like that.
I think it's not just Washington. I think there are other teams that are sniffing around in the next couple years.
You'll see other teams move too. The Raiders.
I don't know about that. The Bears.
But I don't know about, well. But they're going to have some issues at a certain point in time.
Yes, yes. So are the Raiders, right? Yes.
They might too, yeah. Mark Davis being able to afford the inheritance tax.
The Seahawks. They sound like, oh, you mean being sold.
Yeah. I mean, there's been that speculation for a while.

Jody Allen has denied it.

But that smoke has always been out there.

We'll see.

How about this one?

How much longer do you think Roger Goodell will be the commissioner of the NFL?

That's a great question.

I'll make a prediction.

I think he'll sign another extension.

Oh, good.

I think he'll sign another.

That'd be my guess.

Yeah.

It's just a guess.

When is his contract up?

Thank you. I'll make a prediction I think he'll sign another extension I think he'll sign another That'd be my guess When is his contract up? I don't know the exact answer to that They kind of keep those things usually Hush hush If I was Roger Goodell I would never retire You get paid $35 million a year Or more to just be a punching bag He's a great's a great punching bag.
He does it very well.

He really is.

And I've heard that behind the scenes when he's not in front of a camera,

that he can be a fun guy, that he's an affable guy with a personality and not the robot that we see.

But his job is to be a robot and to just go out there

and just take all the heat from the owners.

Well, his job is to take care of the owners.

Yeah.

His job is to look after those 32 franchises,

and he's done a pretty good

job of that you ever seen him let his hair down have fun uh well he's in a serious role yeah yes

he's never taken his shirt off at the super no yeah if you were driving past roger gadell in

scottsdale would you give him your number that woman sure would yeah i won't forget that um all

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I love it. Yeah, so the two things you get are, love you on PMT.
Yeah. And take off your shirt.
And it will be, thanks for breaking the news. So if I take off my shirt on PMT, then any good best of all worlds.
Any good commander's news that you ever break if this actually happens. I want people to be like, Adam, thank you for making PFT come.
Yeah. Yes, that happened.
That happened. All right.
Last question. Give me a look.
Explain that one to the wife. Last question.
What is the most fun thing that Adam Schefter does? Could be a show. Could be a radio hit.
Could be breaking news, investigating something. You know, my mother was on a podcast with christian mcafree's uh mother lisa mcafree who i've known since her husband ed played in denver and my mother complained to lisa on the podcast that i'm not any fun huh and and it was a little bit like the conversation I had with Scott Van Pelt,

who I ran into at a dinner one night at the Super Bowl.

We were talking about the jobs, and he's talking about you and Woj.

And, you know, it is not a complaint.

I love my job.

I'm unqualified to do anything else.

But to let your guard down ever, that's why I go back to that night

with Jeff and Diana for a couple hours just sitting there,cripted totally spontaneous nothing about it planned watching them get propositioned um that was a fun night i don't i don't i don't really we and i don't mean this in a no this is genius what he's discovered is that if you just live your life always on the edge of breaking news and uptight all the time,

two hours of friendship can be like the greatest experience of your life.

Yeah, it's like going to the darkness for four hours.

It's the equivalent, right?

I came into the light for two hours.

Those little moments?

You know, I honestly—

What about the pizza place?

I love the pizza place.

Don't you go to the pizza place after—

Yeah, but I don't go to Bristol anymore,

so I don't stop there as much anymore.

And the guy that owned the pizza place passed away, and it's still really good, but I miss that guy. You know what's fun for me? Honestly, fantasy sports.
Really? Fantasy basketball, fantasy golf. I love watching golf.
I love watching those guys. Your boy, Max Homa, once called me P-Boy.
That was a great thrill for me. Max called you P-Boy? yeah yeah he called me just call him a choker back say he's a choker that'll get it's pretty good yeah yeah i do like that you've discovered friendship though yeah it's very cool that's how many how many times a year do you think that you'll like how often do you want to repeat something like that to have a friend because i i personally i schedule usually fridays and saturdays and sundays make a friend days.
I hang out with my friends all the time. It's excellent.
You know who my friends are? My dogs. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, that's true.
Those are your best friends. Yeah, yeah.
Those dogs. Man's best friend.
In fact, you know, my wife, I'll show you something. This is us sleeping last night.
I just want to show you this. This is how we sleep at night.
Oh, my God. Your dog's like on top of your face.
He's trying to kill you. She took pictures of him sleeping.
Yeah, no, your dog's trying to kill you. Be careful.
He's covering your nose. Yeah, yeah.
Your dog was sent in by Rappaport. So anyway, there's a bunch of them like that.
So that's it. And also, I would imagine it's fun when you just completely cuck the NBA circles and break news there too, right? That's such a cheap thrill that you get to have where you're like, this isn't even my job.
Boom, coming in. You had one this year, didn't you? You had a big news.
I've had a couple of insignificant NBA stories. They're like the scraps that are left over at the dinner table that nobody else wants to eat and I'll just eat them and be happy to do so.
Do you get competitive about that? about NBA? Do you wish that you were breaking bigger stories? No, but here's the thing. We talk about friends.
Like, Woj is my friend. There aren't many people who understand exactly what you go through.
Like, literally, I'll call him. He'll call me, but like, you're not going to believe what's happening right now.
Like, I'll call him afterwards, and I'll be like, you're not going to believe this. Like, Lamar.
But we've already talked about it. But like this Lamar thing, we're waiting on.
Now we've got to wait for the text to come in to say that it's getting done. But he and I will, he'll say to me all the time, like, I'm waiting on this thing.
It's getting close, but they're not, you know, and you know, and you're like, wait, you're like watching. And yeah, yeah.
And it's, it's your guard is always up. Your guard is always up.
And so when the guard is down, that's fun. That is fun.
That's fun. But that doesn't really happen until May, June.
Do you keep stats like you versus Rap Sheet? No, I don't keep stats. You don't notice that? In his head, he does.
Yeah, he does. Some people say that you're losing your edge.
Back in the day, we used to have a fun thing called the Markman 50, one of my bosses. We haven't done it in years where he would rank like he'd say, okay, here are the top 50 free agents, and you'd score it.
And then you just tally the scores who would get that free agent. It was just like a fun thing.
And honestly, what would happen is there would be some free agent who was sitting out there on April 18th, and I'm killing myself to get the newsapolis. And like, I, you know, my family wouldn't be talking to me because I'd be trying to get that final story on April 18th.
Like, you know, you've been gone for seven, eight months. You're not present.
Like, can we, can we let up on number 49 on the mark? That's fair. So in the benefit of everybody, we did weigh with the mark in 50.
What if, what if your daughter broke the Rodgers news? I would love that. It would give me great pleasure.
There wouldn't be like a small percentage of you where you're like, God damn it, that should have been mine. You know what? Here's the thing.
Like when Tom Brady announces that he's retiring, first of all, great career, unbelievable. Everybody loved watching him.
Sad for the game. But also, on that list, one less thing I have to worry have to worry about True Yeah True It's a good point Yeah So like if Aaron Rodgers just wants to Like fine If he wants to yeah We can get on with the rest of the quarterback dominoes And we move on Yeah That's a good way to look at it Alright well Shefty Thank you as always The third or fourth annual visit Yes I appreciate you having me Hopefully this news becomes official Because otherwise we're going to have to cut out like half this interview.
Here's how sad this is. Even if it's completely made up, this has been the best hour of my year as a Washington Commanders fan.
So thank you for giving me this break. So if I ended the interview with one word, it would bum me out? Yeah, just put me out of my misery.
Assault. I thought I thought you were going to say you got punked.
Yeah. That would have been awesome.
He's assaulted me. Adam has assaulted me.
All right. Thank you, Chef.
Hey, you know who the culprit was, by the way? Who? Oh. Ari.
It was my sports update, Ari. Yeah.
Thank you, Adam. Thank you.
See you later. Bye, guys.
That's brutal. Damn.
Bye, guys. I didn't think you had that in think you had that in you I knew it was fake, but I still loved it Why did you have to say who For the PMT guys? Why'd you have to do that? That was too far, Ari Why'd you have to do that part? Oh man, Shefty I can't believe you pulled Honestly, I was hoping you'd buy it more than you did.
Like, you fucked me on Carson Wentz last year. You knew exactly what you were doing with Carson Wentz, and I knew that you would do something like that.
So my guard was up. But it was so cool to see that I was like, yes, this is good.
But who knows? Maybe something will happen. Maybe you will manifest this.
I'm just mad at Ari for saying who. What the fuck, dude? Man, that was good.
I should have known when you brought someone. I changed Ari my phone this morning to the name I played.
I feel like Steven still doesn't understand. No, he doesn't.
Do you get it? Do you get it? You know what you've done? It's not real, yes. I quit Zen before the NFL season started.
Now I'm going back. Now I'm three-bagging it.
Shefty, I didn't think you had that kind of thing in you. Because I was actually going to text John Harbaugh and be like, how do you not remember us? That would have been bad for you.
Well, it would have been good. I wish I had.
It would have been good. Wow.
Shefty, you deserve all the credit in the world. That's an unbelievable, he got you, PFT.
Really bad. Really bad.
We're going to have to figure out a way out of this. Now he's back to chewing gum here.
What are you doing? Sorry, bro. Do you want me to jerk you off? No.
You're edging now. I'm not going to jack off until Dan Snyder sells it to me.
Okay. Deal.
I'm on a masturbation strike. If we find out that's happening, I'll let you know.
Yeah, I'm officially on a masturbation strike against Dan Snyder. I'm going to try to make it back up to you.
Okay. Fair enough.
Done. You're good, you.
You're good, you. I'm just happy you didn't do it to me.
Happy it was to PFT. All right.
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Yeah. R&R 20.
Which one did you fight in? One. One.
Wow. Did you win? Yeah.
You got to fight again at R&R 100. Okay.
You have to. I mean, you have to.

I'll fight Max.

You'll fight.

Max, you accept?

Max, you just got called out.

Deal.

Champ called you out.

Can we make this fight happen?

R&R 25?

I think the weight discrepancy would be tough.

No, I hit the treadmill, buddy.

Oh.

What did he say?

He said hit the treadmill, buddy. That's fair.
No, that's fair. Damn up to 200 pounds.
Oh. What did he say? He said hit the treadmill, buddy.

That's fair.

No, that's fair.

Damn.

Yeah, 80 more fights.

All right.

Hank.

I have a couple of fire fests.

Okay, go off.

Oh, please.

The first one.

Do you have your entire lunch on your sweatshirt?

I didn't pack.

No, these are.

Why is that?

This is lint.

It is lint.

Okay. That's lint.
For the next 30 days. The one thing...
Can I say something real quick? No. The one thing I love about Hank...
Here we go. I've known him a very long time.
Here we go. No matter where we're eating or what we're eating, he ends up with a piece of food like halfway up his chin, like on his side.
You know why? Because he always has one moment, whether it's lunch or dinner, where he tries to eat something and he coughs it up or it comes out his nose. He's good for one of those like almost maybe throw up moments.
You had a piece of chip like up here today. A sneeze, cough, puke moment.
You had one of those last night for sure. I'm not a good eater.
You're not a good eater. You're not a good eater.
That's a fact. Eating is a chore.
People love to eat. You love to eat.
I look at eating as more of something that I have to do. And as someone who's trying to get in the fitness world and put on weight and muscle, it's like you have to eat so much to do that.
And I'm always like, fuck. Well, Hank did say at lunch today after he ordered a club sandwich and he took two bites out of one.
Well, I had a full French onion soup, a full shrimp cocktail. You had one shrimp.
Yeah, a full shrimp. You ate a shrimp.
I ate a full shrimp with sauce. I can't even comprehend.
The only thing I enjoy doing is eating. Hank did say that he needs a coach.
I wish I enjoyed eating. That's all I look forward to.
I wake up and I'm like, what am I going to have for dinner? The amount of times I get hungry, I'm like, I'm starving. What are we eating? And then we go, and then I get embarrassed because I eat three bites.
I'm like, all right, I'm full. But then they're like, didn't you say you're starving? I was like, well, I was.
You said you needed a coach to teach you how to eat properly. I will be that coach.
A swallowing coach? Did you see what i did today when i got us three desserts for lunch yeah that's a baller move last night i low-key did order two entrees i've been i've been prescribed adhd medicine since i was in like sixth grade and i think that's just destroyed my my stomach and my appetite and my will to eat but i i would love to get better at it that's not even my fire all right i'll teach you uh my first fire fest is i didn't i forgot to dye my beard one day and let the gray out and people freaked out oh yeah that was bad i i was shocked because we've seen you in those moments when you like wake up before you put your makeup on and we're like whoa you look old yeah before we before we take i thought i thought it was like oh we'll just test it out see how people think maybe 30 minutes just about 30 minutes where we're prepping where Hank goes into hair and makeup. And he dyes it.
So we're used to seeing that. But, yeah, you let it slip yesterday.
So now the internet knows. Yeah.
No, I was a little taken aghast by the reaction. Gassed.
Taken aghast. Taken aghast.
I was aghast. Yeah.
Taken aghast. Shout out, Ward.
My other Fyre Fest is I got – which it's not even a fire fest because if there's one community online that i truly could care less about and hope like the worst things happen to them it's oh the lottery ball people one fucking dickhead in indianapolis get in the elevator i'm on the 17th, ironically. We get all the way to the top, and the guy gets out and goes, look at the lottery ball, and then skirts away.
Yes. Couldn't even say it to my face like a man.
We also had Dana. Take him down in the elevator.
He had to wait until he had an escape route. Yeah, Dana Beer's teaching a class at his community college, and there was a list of questions at the bottom was, will Hank ever get the bottom?

Yeah, those kids are going nowhere.

What about Dana Beers?

He's somewhere.

Is he?

Yeah.

I love that they brought him back as a professor emeritus of his computer school.

Well, no, Dana Beers is a success.

He's the most successful guy who went to his college.

That's a fact.

Whoever wrote that question is going nowhere in life quickly.

Maybe an internship at Part of My Take absolutely not well yeah so wait there's other communities that you're upset with online though you really lost that over because community yeah so uh uh awl dm'd a picture and was like a very poisonous snake or oh yes uh venomous cor corral snake corral snake Matt corral snake a coral snake slithered up on him and he for whatever reason was holding his car I guess not for whatever reason smart people walk around with their car sticks on hands keep that motherfucking thing on me a coral snake walked up on him and he used the car stick to kill the snake and avoid dying from getting a poisonous, venomous bite. And in the picture, the snake was cut up.
He sliced it up probably four or five different times. Yeah.
And the snake community comes out of the clouds and was like, What? This is so fucked up. You guys are murderers.
No. This is sickening.
How are you promoting this? And that's what I'm saying. I didn't think he did enough.
he did enough no yeah i would have sliced it up seven times i would have found his kids taking the seven slices and then burnt them on fire because i would have been worried that that's going to turn into seven seven seven new snakes like it's a terminator movie that actually is how it works it is no do not apologize to the snake no they are weird what are they scale heads yeah whatever you, if you're in the snake community. I did zoom in on it when you first sent that picture.
I zoomed in on the snake because I was like, there's no way that's a corral snake. That's got to be a corn snake because they look the same.
That's red yellow kill a fellow. That guy, he should have sliced it up more.
Yeah. It did look like it was center court at the Sixers where it was that the join or die snake.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he really killed the fuck out of that snake.
It's like it's a serial killer vibes it's serial killer vibes to be a snake to be a snake yes to be a snakes literally have had the worst rap deservedly so in the history of animals they were the first animal adam and eve the bible yeah right like they it you are a serial killer if you are a snake yeah well the person that killed the snake very't a serial killer. They're a solo killer.
They're a hero. They killed one snake.
Right. And it's not deservedly so.
That snake was trying. Every snake is trying to kill a person.
It was tried and convicted of being a snake and was summarily executed by Hank's car stick. Dude, snake people, like what? Just get a dog i hate snakes you should you should mark it then hate the next uh the next iteration is just the snake stick yeah i mean even a lifetime against state even people who have like weird it like people who own ferrets like okay it's weird but you could see like hey ferrets are kind of nice whatever snakes are just snakes literally just exist to wait till you go to sleep so they can kill you that's it snakes and cats baby a snake would swallow it and be like where's the baby and it's like the snake where you can see the giant yeah snake would be like what's for lunch i'm hungry yeah so fuck snakes yeah fuck snakes fuck that guy yeah yeah no i hate snakes snakes trash all my homies hate snakes yeah we're the podcasts.
We hate Nazis and snakes. Hell yeah.
Speaking of Indians, I watched, I sat through the commercials too because I was into it because it was like showing a lot of Chicago, The Fugitive. Great movie.
Fantastic. Good Chicago movie.
I've never seen that? No. Great movie.
It wasn't me. The one-armed man.
I don't think, I don't know, sitting through commercials to watch a movie is pretty much as good of a recommendation as you can give.

That's a fact. That's a fact.
I was bored in the hotel. I was like, this is a good movie.
It would be great if they made a movie, though, where there were Nazi snakes just slithering around wearing the armband. I'll say that's redundant.
The Russians trained the beluga whales. I'll say that's redundant.
All snakes are Nazis. And all Nazis are snakes.
Correct. Those are one and the same.
Like imagine if there was a movie where it was giant Nazi snakes, and then just Sylvester Stallone shows up with a machine gun, and it's just 90 minutes of him shooting snakes.

Done.

I'm in.

In.

Fully in.

That should be our next Boner Dogs.

Yes.

Nazi snakes.

Nazi snakes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not to get too historical here, too.

And we do Nazi snakes on a plane.

I learned about the right and left on last show. Wait, wait, which is it? Conservative, liberal.
Red. Three R's.
What? What? Red, Republican, right. Oh, okay.
Got it. There you go.
And then what's the... NASA's a problem.
Wait, what's the other side? Wait, wait. I learned that NASA's a serious problem.
What do you mean? There's a lot of Nazis that are wearing that. Oh, you learned about Operation Paperclip.
Big time. We hired all their fucking scientists.
That's a problem. That is a problem.
When the US and Russia or USSR were converging on Germany, the reason why we were both fighting to see who could take the capital the fastest is because we wanted their scientists to get us to the moon so warner von braun who is the head scientist that got us to the moon actual nazi he built their rockets you tried to bring back nasa shirts that's oh yeah that's true but i but i i've moved on from that i that was a teachable now it's just swastikas that was that was a heated gaming moment that i moved on from hank um all right pft your fire fest uh my fire fest is one i'm going through some butt issues right now i don't know what it is maybe it's travel maybe it's just what we ate yesterday but i've been i'm i've been a poop guy okay the last couple days and uh a couple years yeah a couple days really uh and then my my other issue jake's definitely the poop guy of this podcast. I don't know.

He missed the Super Bowl to poop.

Yeah, no.

Listen.

Jake has bigger moments.

I think you're more consistently a poop guy.

I'm a stat compiler.

Yeah, you're basically like.

A stat compiler.

Yeah, Jake is Adam Dunn.

And you're like Pete Rose, the hit king.

You'll get as many hits.

Who's calling?

Do we do a live call?

Yeah.

What is that? Is he pranking you? Tommy, you're on part of my take what's up oh damn he's definitely doing some video damn definitely doing some weird video uh my now I have to know my other fire fest is uh my stomach has been hurting for other reasons this week. Pregnant? Not pregnant, not yet.
I shared this with you guys at dinner last night, but when I went in to get my platelet-rich plasma injections into my scalp, I got upsold into getting CoolSculpting done on my stomach. And so now my stomach hurts really bad.
The good news is I'm going to have final four abs. Hell yes.
And it's so easy to do. You just sit in a chair and then just freeze your fat.
And then your fat gets shat out. That's probably why I'm shitting all the time.
I'm losing weight. I'm the pinnacle of health actually.
Because I told you guys last night, similar to you running a marathon without telling anyone i am going to do that insulin medicine without telling anyone and someday i'll just start shedding pounds and everybody like what is he doing and i'll be like i just learned how to eat right yeah i'm 40 years old i just started following a diet does big cat have aids yeah no and then i'll i'll mix in some some trt and yeah people i'll just i will be one of those guys who goes on Instagram being like, all you got to do is walk two miles a day and do a few lunges, and you can be jack like me. Yeah, no, I'm definitely taking a shortcut to getting abs.
I don't think anyone's questioning that, but I'm also running a marathon at some point, so who's to say what's really a shortcut or not? Also, Hank have taken the same shortcut but he chose not to you could you chose not to hang on all natural way

the the cool sculpting i'm so i'm so pumped yeah i'm so pumped it's going to be give me give me

like four weeks i'm going to be shredded in my stomach area it's going to be incredible

um all right my fire fest is pretty simple uh it's march and what i mean by that uh

i'm just in the i'm in the ringer i'm i'm just every day i'm i'm fighting for everything uh tcu texas i stayed up watch the end of that game if people missed it tcu was two and a half point favorite in texas hit a meaningless three to cover the spread and i didn't go to sleep for like two hours and i forgot like oh yeah this is march Because every game is the exact same struggle. And you know it's coming.
And there's nothing you can do about it. I love this time of year.
But god damn it. It takes a lot out of you.
You're just rooting as hard as you can for a bunch of 18-year-old kids to not fuck up. Well, the thing about basketball is there's so many games that are going on at once.
And it's hard to keep focused. I'm trying to limit myself.
I'm betting on, I think, two games a night for the past week, so that way I can at least keep my eye on everything that's going on. There's nothing worse than losing a bet, and you didn't even get to watch it.
At that point, you're just doing math. You're looking at a spreadsheet.
And by the way, everyone gambled responsibly. I was responsibly gambling on TCU.
It just was one of those games where it's like you lose on a buzzer beater that means nothing and it hurts um the uh i i do occasionally i call movie unders if i if i'm going to a movie yeah i'll bet the under and because i won't look at my phone for the entire two hours and then come out and hope that i have good news that's smart that's that's the only way to do it literally anytime i go to a movie i'll just be like just be like, all right, what's the under? All right, I'll bet it. Because I just don't – I won't watch it, won't check it, won't do anything, just come out and hope I have good news.
Yeah, smart people that know how to gamble correctly on basketball, they will do things like bet on games and then not watch them. Yeah.
To me, that's the worst possible experience, is betting on something and not watching the game. Yeah, no, it's watching the game.
That's the fun part. fun part two diehard locks that i'm sure will have hit by the time you're listening to this i did take michigan i took them straight up okay uh and then i took purdue i'm on i'm all in on purdue i'm all in on purdue that was mean of you it's just a fact i'm it's numbers yeah that was mean of you it's business you didn't have to do that it's business baby you didn't have to do that i didn't have to but i kind of wanted yeah but you did there's no there was no science behind it i the ski mask 100 dickinson no but the wisconsin purdue game there was no science right i'm saying yeah there was just i'm taking purdue well no and so here's what happened is i i put a future on purdue a couple weeks ago to win the entire the whole enchilada and now i'm just like i'm a purd so I'm just I'm supporting my guys yeah but so you already have action on the game you need Purdue to win to get the one seat yeah but I mean I didn't I didn't think about that yeah you doubled in it yeah Nova's gonna win the Big East Max you have a fire fest uh yes um my fire fest is TikTokers oh yeah Juju Smith Max is officially triggered online by Juju Smith.
Juju Smith, he's a piece of shit. I don't know who he thinks he is.
A Super Bowl champ would be one thing. No, he's a champ.
He's literally a Super Bowl champ. Let me ask you a follow-up question.
I'm a Super Bowl champ, too. Let me ask you a follow-up question.
Did the Phillies get no hit in the World Series? Technically. Okay.
Technically, Juju Smith-Schuster's a Super Bowl champ. Yeah, he's also a child.
Okay. And A.J.
Brown would beat the absolute fucking worst. Wait.
Wait. Wait.
Wait. Wait.
In a football game or in a fight? In both. In both.
In both? No one is saying that Juju Smith-Schuster's a better football player than A.J. Brown.
He does have a Super Bowl ring. That's besides the point.
Head to head. What's the goal of every NFL team when they start the season? This is a different conversation.
It was a shitty fucking TikTok. Max, you have to know that getting into these conversations, we're just going to go down this route.
And we're going to beat you every time. I'm just trying to say what happened.
I mean, it's very silly of you

to get into this big debate and then come

in second place. It's not a debate.

And not have a Super Bowl ring. It's not a debate.

It's just...

Well, no, no, you're right. It's not a debate.

Juju Smith-Schuster is a Super Bowl champion.

A.J. Brown is a better football player.

But what did I say? That the

first part isn't erased.

And he would beat the fuck out of him. Okay, that I agree with.
The thing about A.J. erased and he would beat the fuck out of him okay that i agree with yeah the thing about the thing about aj brown is you beat the fuck out of juju juju is just a weirdo yeah he is like that whole video was just weird yeah i mean it was a bad it was a bad like tiktok skit and a lot of retweets but that's just because it's juju smith schuster and everyone loves to hate on Okay.
I mean, it's true. No one looked at that video and was like, oh, except for fucking Hank.
Oh, yeah. Hank, we watched it at lunch because Max was so triggered and he pulled it up and Hank was like, this is funny.
This is funny. It got Max even more triggered.
Can you explain what the TikTok was? You just don't understand art. Aren't you a film guy? That was a bad TikTok skit.
Explain what it was for those of us that haven't seen it. Juju Smith-Schuster did one of those things on TikTok, those skits where the same person dresses up like different people.
Oh, like Eddie Murphy. He's fucking funny.
Tyler Perry? Correct. Robin Williams.
Correct. Juju Smith-Schuster, not funny.
Well, no. He's in the conversation with Eddie Murphy, Robin Williams, and Tyler Perry.
One of the players was like, oh, sorry, we dropped the ball, Jalen, and kind of like making fun of him. Did he not just, was he just, was Juju Smith-Schuster not just in the same sentence as some of the best comedians of all time? I hate every single one of you.
I'm just asking a question. Was he or was he not in that sentence? You could put Hank in the, you could just say names.
No, he wasn't. We could just say name.
I did do a Frank Hank impression. Roll back the tape.
You just said Juju Smith-Schuster did one of those Eddie Murphy, Tyler Perry, Robin Williams type things. You said that.
Oh, Michael Keaton, Multiplicity? Yeah. How did it perform? I don't care how it performed.
I'm not even looking. A.J.
Brown's tweet probably did better before he deleted it. Why'd he delete it? Because he's a bitch.
Oh, no. No, because he's trying to take the high road and be a professional.
He's trying to figure out why or not we landed on the moon. Because he was triggered.
Yeah, but some people get emotional. But A.J.
Brown basically said that he would beat the fuck out of him if he keep talking about him. One thing about AJ Brown.
Yeah. So you beat the fuck out of Hank any time you want.
He would beat the fuck out of Juju Smith-Schuster. That's a fact.
That is a fact. AJ Brown's my guy.
Juju Smith-Schuster, piece of shit. Facts.
Okay, and what was your fire fest? Just being triggered. Just hating Juju Smith-Schuster.
Oh, all right. That's a good fire fest.
I'd like to get Jerry's thoughts on Juju. Oh, he does not like him.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's my guy.
Does not like him. Yeah.
Still won a Super Bowl, though. He is a Super Bowl champ.
Still a pussy. That does, like, there will be a NFL Films documentary on those Chiefs.
He will be featured. So will A.J.
Brown. Yeah, as a loser in the game.
Probably not. They probably won't interview him.
Oh, nice. Ward's getting us more water.
Hell yes. Shout out Ward.
He's been our sound guy this week. He just hit us with my pleasure, too, like Chick-fil-A.
That was nice. I'm chugging water.
I'm going to wait to thank a sound guy this time. All right.
So should we kick it to ourselves? Hank, I really think this is the time you're going to get the lottery ball. Yeah.
Do you think so? No. Why? Because I know it happens.
No. Spoiler.
Don't do that. He's going to get it right now, guys.
You know what's fucked up is I forgot whether or not Hank got the lottery ball and he just spoiled it. I will say the piss bets were electric.
We could run that back. I'll run it back anytime you want, boy.
Anytime you want. Anytime you want.
All right. Kick it to ourselves.
All right. Ready? Yeah.
If I get this, I'm not going to be able to hold it. You have to.
Yeah. Are we still taping? Yeah.
What you just said is illegal.

You're going to have the same problem.

No.

I won't say shit.

All right.

When have we ever spoiled this?

Never.

Wait, is the pee still on?

He's not going to get it.

I don't know why we're...

I'll run the pee back.

Is the pee still on?

Oh, yeah.

No, I thought...

That's what I'm saying.

When I get this, you have to drink the pee.

I tweeted the eyeball emoji.

That could mean anything.

Okay.

So it is Friday's show. We're taping this because we're in Indy.
The pee bet is still on. If I get it, Hank has to drink a sip of his pee.
If Hank gets it, I have to drink a sip of my pee. He's not going to get it, though.
Have you ever gotten it? No. Okay, numbers.
6-9. 17.
18. I'm never doing that mistake again.
20. 8.
Keep in mind, 3 and 45. I think 45, but 3 is definitely out.
76. Oh, 17 just popped up, Hank.
67. Damn.
No, Hank. Another week.
No lottery balls for Hank. Love you guys.
Dogs walk in a circle before they sleep to coordinate themselves north-south. Is that true? There's no way that's true.
I thought walk in a circle. I thought it was because they pat down the grass.

They walk in a circle to make sure that they're in a suitable sleeping environment.

Right.

Something about magnetic fields.

No, it's patting down the grass.

No, no, no.

If you look it up, they're like always directionally.

Yeah, yeah.

Let's look it up.

Let's look it up real quick.

Dogs, circles, north, south.

Let's see what we got here.

The Wi-Fi sucks. So I guess we just have to believe you.
Yeah, north, south. Oh, okay, confirmed.
He just looked at his phone. He goes, oh, yeah, north, south.
Canines choose to do so in a north,south axis Take me home. Take me home.
I'm here to be safe than sorry. Stay up to me.
It's better to be safe than sorry. Don't leave.
Take me off. I need your love to you.
Don me, darling, you take me home.

I need your love to me.