PGA Golfer Joel Dahmen, Full Swing Review, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Chicago Move FAQ’s

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have our Full Swing Review Netflix documentary on the Full Swing show. Very good documentary.
Go watch it. We also have Joel Damon on the show.
He was episode two, three. Awesome episode.
Talk to him about his golf career. He might be the coolest golfer out there.
And we've talked to some cool golfers. We have.
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Great dude. Great caddy.
Gino. Great interview with him.
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now in the street there is violence and i a lot of stuff Work to be done No place to hang A lot of washing And then I can't blame All on the sun Oh no We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we're. Let's go.
We're in March. This is March.
January,bruary iso april yeah seven years seven years happy seven year anniversary yes i got you maybe we should have started with that we've been doing this podcast for seven years oh okay that's march madness that has nothing to do with the seven years got it okay it's a little late it year itch. It means we're going to start cheating on each other.
Yeah. We're going to start looking, getting the wandering eye.
Yeah. Seven.
Holy fuck. I'm going to go on Mean Girl podcast.
Is it really seven years? Well, no, not technically because. It's like a year and three quarters.
Yeah. Because we debuted part of my take on February 29th was when we recorded our first episode.
Yeah, seven years. So we haven't really.
Yeah, we're one and three quarters years. Damn.
And in the first episode, we talked about Chris Jones' dick flopping out. That's right.
Because it was combine season. Also, happy 500th episode, guys.
Yes. 500th episode.
All right. Huge.
Massive. Also, shout out our friend Nick Turani.
He just finished his first year at Barstool. Wow.
Yeah. Big day.
Not true. Huge day.
Yeah. It's just a huge day.
No, I know. He likes to just go around telling people that and congratulate him.
He's been here like three years. Yeah.
Alright, so Combine Week. We're going to Indy.
We got some good interviews. Oh, Jake is...
Jake, play the music. Go ahead.
Play the fucking music. Thank you.
Thank you. Sorry.
is March It is The feels do start Yeah Yeah Yeah Oh and you know what Pretty soon we're gonna get Hello friends Yeah Last one Last one No he says that the Masters too Yeah I feel like His alma mater is a top team It's in Houston His last Final four Oh you Oh you didn't listen to the show with Titus? I did. That's what we talked about.
That was his big thing. Yeah.
Yeah. It's going to be a March to remember, friends.
It will be. Yeah.
Because I remember every March. I'm so excited.
It is. It is my.
It's not the best sports month. I think that still is October.
It might be second. I think it's the best sports weekend of the year.
The first weekend of March Madness. That Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Not to go hipster on you, PFT, but I'm a conference championship week kind of guy too. Yeah, but we're not going to sit here with a straight face and say conference championship week is better.
More games. Than week one madness more more games i just i disavow that it's like eating a giant appetizer where you fill up a little bit too much where the entree comes on you're like am i going to be able to handle this you take two bites that entree and you're like yeah you know what i can do it listen it's okay real ball heads they love conference championship week than everyone else in america watches for march madness it's fine real real ball heads, they love Conference Championship Week than everyone else in America watches for March Madness.

It's fine.

Real, real ball heads know that Conference Championship Week started today.

Real, real ball heads know that Conference Championship Week started yesterday.

Yep.

Bellarmine was a buzzer beater over North Florida in the eighth on first round.

No, because real, real, real ball heads know that Bellarmine can't make the

NCAA tournament this year. But there were other tournaments.
Queens College. Queens, who also is an eligible.
They beat Florida Gulf Coast. Yeah.
And today, Tuesday, we have four tournaments in action, including the Sun Belt. Yeah.
PFT's, Jamie Dukes, have a bye. Let's go Dukes.
Yep. Three wins away.
Got a chance to get in there. All right.
So before we do our full swing review, what else is going on? I know we had an update on the never-ending Aaron Rodgers saga that's just basically it. Now the vibe is everyone's saying it feels like a divorce is imminent.
It feels like I think Jeff Darlington said it was the two sides are talking, not like they're figuring out a way to keep this together, more how to amicably split. Okay, conscious uncoupling, right?

That's what Gwyneth Patro taught us?

Yes.

Yeah, I think that Aaron Rodgers is probably going to leave.

I didn't ever think that before, even when he was coming back,

when he was trying to figure out if he was going to play.

I always got the feeling like he would be back in Green Bay,

like that was his home.

This time, I would be surprised if Aaron Rodgers was a Green Bay Packer next year. I think I would as well.
I don't want to fall for it again, but it does feel a little bit different this time around, especially they had, so Combine, all the coaches talk, and Matt LaFleur, I think, or maybe it was Guttenkest or whatever, however you say his fucking name, said Jordan Love is a starting quarterback in the NFL. He was like, this guy can start.
So it does feel like they're turning the page ready for Jordan Love era. Yeah, and if you're the New York Jets, you're kind of all in at this point on Aaron Rodgers.
That's why you hired Nathaniel Hackett. He's 0 for 1 lifetime in getting Aaron Rodgers to the town that he's in.
But I feel like that's the main reason why they got him in, like they knew something. They took Derek Carr out on that nice date just so that Aaron could see them in the restaurant and get a little bit jealous and be like, what, they don't want me? I do think that Aaron Rodgers is going to be a Jet next year.
I want him to go to the Titans or something. Because I was thinking about it, the Jets, I have longstanding take that once Aaron Rodgers leaves Green Bay, I will root for him because I think it would be funny if he won a title without the Packers.
Like if he won a Super Bowl in his first year off the Packers. But thinking about it more, I can't root for him if Billy is just being like, this guy is so good.
Yeah, I feel bad for you. Yeah, like I can't.
It would kill me. It would kill me.
Titans are like, I don't have to worry about it. I could see the Titans, on paper last year, made a lot more sense than this year.
Because if he thinks that he doesn't have weapons in Green Bay, then going to Tennessee right now is not a good option for him. I also think that Tennessee just screams Carson Wentz to me.
It feels like a Carson Wentz situation. I don't think Carson Wentz is going anywhere to start.
Definitely not. Well, he's not going to start.
Definitely not. But he will be going somewhere.
But who cares? He's a fine backup. He should just retire.
Yeah. He should just go kill Ducks full time.
XFL. Or the Raiders for Aaron Rodgers, which would be fun.
Or what about this? The Panthers. Oh.
Frank Reich. Oh.
Because I don't think Frank Reich ever hated Carson Wentz. I think they liked each other.
But Mr. Ursa got on the horn and was like, I can't do another year.
Respect to Mr. Ursa for that.
Hmm. Well, we'll see more drama.
I hope they just do it soon. They're not.
Yeah. They're also.
Yeah. The other news is the Bears are officially shopping number one.
Duh. No duh.
Yeah. I don't think that will happen.
I was reading up about like when it usually goes down. I think the earliest was like March 17th was maybe Sam Darnold or someone in the last few years where a first round pick gets traded.
So it will be mid-March before we have some like real movement yeah the way the combine works

is a bunch of front office people take like a mid-winter trip to indy they all get drunk together and then somebody makes a drunken handshake deal and then they come back and have to renegotiate the drunken handshake deal because it turns out that one guy was way drunker than the other guy yes and so then there's a about a two-week time span after that where the deals that get made actually get signed.

And the big news about the Combine this year,

the big news about the combine this year, the big storyline is going to be pretty much all Bryce Young's hype. So a lot of truthers out there, a lot of people saying that he's listed at 5'10.5", 195.
People are saying he's more like 5'9", 180. A lot of truthers.
I'm a 5'11 truther.

I think he's 5'10 and a half, which is what Todd McShay said.

Yeah.

And if you're 5'10 and a half, then you can lie to yourself and be like,

okay, he's 5'11".

And my advice to Bryce Young would actually be don't worry about the height.

You can't change your height.

Trust me, I've tried.

You can have the limb lengthening surgery.

That's like two years, not worth it.

However, you can become a sturdy, a solid 5'11 guy and just put on 15 pounds. That's the problem.
The height, we've kind of debunked. You'd rather your quarterbacks be taller than shorter.
That's just a fact. But there are guys who have played well who have not been the tallest guys in the world.
He is the combo of shortest, slightest that we've seen in a very long time. You just got to have people say, like, Russell Wilson, he's sturdy.
Yeah. He's thick.
He's dummy thick. If I'm Bryce Young.
Yeah, Kyler Murray's got some ass. He has a little bit of ass to him.
If I'm Bryce Young, you don't have to worry about running the 40. No one's going to ask you to run the 40 this week.
No one's going to ask you to throw this week. I think he's saving that for his pro day.
He's literally just showing up to show how much weight he's getting. He's just showing up to be measured.
So just show up. Just get fucking fat as hell.
Just do nothing but order Seamless to your couch all week. Watch Netflix.
That's your pro. I would be elite at preparing for the combine if I was Bryce Young.
Put some tungsten up your ass. There you go.
Why not? Yeah.

Like, why?

Do you think they would act?

I mean, they're not going to actually, like, go into his pants.

They go out in their underwear.

They might do a metal detector.

You think so?

Or an MRI.

I don't know.

That's something that most guys probably wouldn't.

I don't think they've ever thought about, like, someone might cheat on this.

You could just be like, I have no idea how that got there. Yeah, this tungsten.
Oh, I always carried that in my ass. Yeah.
It's my secret power. But yeah, that's going to be the big story.
I'm trying to think what else is going on. Well, we have full swing.
LeBron. Yeah, LeBron's ankle.
LeBron's foot. He says he's going to take, what, two weeks to reevaluate his foot.
So now we're down to the most important 13 games of his career yep so uh lebron is out for the record i did not miss a single podcast when i broke my foot he has a pretty much broken foot basically a broken foot but in reality i think we can probably close the season close the pick close the book on this lakers season it was so funny too because it looked i don't't know if you tuned into any coverage on Monday of the Lakers' big win against the Mavs, but basically wall-to-wall coverage on ESPN being like the Lakers are now the team to beat in the West. So much so that Zach Lowe on his podcast went a little behind the curtain, and he said that a producer on ESPN called him up and was like hey can you come on uh NBA Live or whatever it's called uh the jump maybe I don't know can you come on because everyone in the panel uh thinks the Lakers are like would beat the Grizzlies or the team to beat now in the West we can't find anyone who doesn't think that and like you might be that guy and he's like I's like, I'm, I'm off today.
So I can't come on. But yes, I think it's ridiculous that everyone thinks the Lakers are going to win the West because they beat the Mavs on Sunday.
They're not the Warriors. They're not in like flip the switch mode.
You could, you could start the playoffs and Steph Curry could play his first game of the season. And I'd be like, yeah, the Warriors are going to flip the switch and they'll be fine.
But it was just so funny. The Lakers, they've had the switch flipped for the last three years.
They've been in a perpetual state of having the switch in the on position, and it short circuits. Yeah, but it's just so funny.
They had to call Zach Lowe and be like, hey, we need someone who will disagree with the Lakers being the title contenders now after one game, so can you help us? He's like, nope, sorry. So yeah.
They're half game out game out of the plan. They're half game out of the plan.
Yes. They might make the plan LeBron.
Well, plan LeBron is going to miss two weeks, two weeks, and then they're going to reassess most important 13 games of his career. Yeah.
It's not one thing. Big cat.
You're forgetting though. It's not in LeBron's DNA to miss the playoffs two seasons in a row.
That's true. It's not.
I per LeBron. I am a little bummed because I did want to see what happened in these most important 23 regular season games of his career.
I was curious. Yeah.
Like, it would have been nice. I don't want LeBron to win another title, but it would have been nice to see him, you know, go on a little run, maybe have like one or two playoff series with some iconic moments, maybe to chris paul well that would have been fun the the bottom line is that the lakers haven't been shit since they lost caruso yep that's a fact he was the straw that stirred the drink that's a fact and they yeah serious question do you think alex caruso is the last person in the united states to get arrested for weed um yeah probably i think he might be he's definitely yeah i mean especially i still don't understand how that happened when he's like he's been like dude i'm al scuso played on the aggies yeah what are we doing here it's college station yeah he's lucky they didn't put him on death row for that yeah he probably is though that's probably a good point ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has ariot ariot work jackets and boots are packed with all the cold stopping waterproof protection you need to get the job done under any conditions so you can take any job out there and always deliver check out ariot in your local workwear retailer or visit ariot.com work to get 10 off your first order when you sign up for email and weather whatever in a Ariat Work Gear.
All right, should we do some full swing talk? It was awesome. It was a great documentary.
And we have Joel Damon coming up. Great interview with him, talking about his episode.
Where do we want to start? Big picture? Overall, what would you guys rate it? I give it two under par. Okay, I give it three and a half balls.
Okay. I give it really good, but not as good as Drive to Survive.
Yeah, I'd agree with that. I thought it was awesome.
I thought it was – I binge-watched every episode. I've watched some of the episodes twice, so I liked it a lot.
But – and especially because Drive to Survive is now out. I've been watching the new season.
I think part of it is because Drive to Survive is teams, so it's kind of easy to be like, you know, team one, team two, they did the same thing with players, but there's just so many players that it felt like there was a lot of stuff being missed because the fields are so big and they can only focus in on whatever it was, eight players in the whole season. I would say that, so I went three, yeah, three and a half balls out of five.
I think you could get to four and a half balls if you just had Patrick Reed in it. Like there was no, I know that the live tension was, they tried to build it up, but it didn't feel until like Rory said, fuck you, Phil, make sure that stays in.
There wasn't that like super tense moment where like Hank is talking about and drives to survive you know these guys hate each other you know who hates who and it's like they're on camera together you didn't you never it never really felt like we had that the only bad guy that they really had was it was it would just be like shots of greg norman walking outside right with sunglasses on right and he does look like a shark when he's walking around so you're're like, okay, this is the bad guy. I get even the guys that joined Liv on there, like DJ, when they were talking to him, I think DJ is the only one that was openly, brutally honest with it, who was like, yeah, I get paid way more money for playing way less golf.
Yes. So that, and if everybody had said that when they go to the Liv tour, I think people would have had a much better understanding of like why're doing it.
And they would have been more understanding of, like, okay, I get it. You have a family to look after.
There was one moment where Brooks, when he was talking about it, we should probably embrace debate on this. He said he has the opportunity to set up his grandkids' grandkids by going to the Live Tour.
That's a lot of grandkids. I'm trying to do the math.
We't know how much money brooks got if let's say he got a hundred million dollars is that grandkids grandkids money no it depends if your grandkids are smart enough to like go to college four or five generations right and do you know how much taxes and shit and then also you're gonna have a shithead generation that always happens with every generation like there's always what's the old saying like the first generation builds the second generation maintains the third generation destroys it yeah i think each generation will have their hunter biden yeah which will just take there will be one kid let's say brooks has three kids and then those three kids each have three kids how many are we at right now nine that would be two generations so nine kids no 12 right

because you get the great kids and then you need to get to the three kids have three kids

yeah so basically our grandparents that's nine kids nine kids it'll be our grandparents

to our grandkids because our grandkids will be congratulations i didn't know you were expecting

it'll be two above us and two below us so yeah that's too much that's too much that's that that's so we're talking about like yeah our this is our grandparents grandparents we're talking about like 150 years ago in fucking europe or wherever the fuck yeah i don't know-great-grandparents did besides get smashed by an elevator. Yeah.

Have you ever watched that show, by the way?

I think it's on PBS.

The guy goes through the history with famous people.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

It's awesome.

They had one where...

It was that Larry David was actually related to Bernie.

Bernie Sanders, yes, that one.

Yes, yes, exactly.

Yeah, those rule. But yeah, so anyway, Brooks, we're going to have Brooks back on.
I know people think that we have some issue with him. We do not.
He is definitely going to come back on, maybe talk about this episode. But his episode, I felt bad for him.
I did too. He's in a bad place.
It was the most human he's shown on camera. He's been human otherwise, but I felt bad.
It felt like golf is such a miserable game that if you lose even a little bit, you start questioning everything. Yeah, it's very much played in your own brain.
And with Brooks, he had the ability to just turn it on for majors, and he just didn't give a shit about golf when it wasn't a major championship. And then once you get a little crack in that confidence that you have and you're unable to turn it on at any point, now he would kill to win any tournament.
And it doesn't work like that. He hasn't built up that muscle to care about the small stuff enough.
And then once you start screwing up in the small times, then your entire confidence just gets destroyed. The nice thing about playing team sports is that you always have somebody else to blame it on.
Even if you're not doing it publicly, you can always lie to yourself. You can tell your friends.
Yeah, you can tell your friends. This guy's a fucking asshole.
You can tell your wife. You can tell yourself.
Be like, yeah, you know what? I would have gotten that first down if my line had blocked for me a little bit better. There are those lies that you can you can tell in golf you can't really there's nobody to blame but yourself it sucks sucks and i so the one funny thing that happened in that episode actually i i was i i hit up brooks and i was like just watch your episode like this kind of it's brutal to watch you have to go through this and he said that in the in the scene when he had triggered sweatshirt with his mom, he said that he had just lost an all-time bad beat in March Madness.
So that was part of why he was like, I wish they had kept it in because that actually says that Brooks might have it again. Because that was great composure.
Yeah. I mean, he definitely looked down at the dumps.
Maybe it was mostly because of that loss. Maybe it had nothing to do with golf whatsoever.
My feedback for Brooks, I have two pieces of feedback. And, Brooks, you can take these or leave these.
We love you no matter what, just the way you are. The hair, the blonde hair.
Yeah. Might be time to change that up.
Yeah. Might be time because he looks like he's got the whole, like, late 90s M&M thing going on.
Yeah. Justin Timberlake.
Might be time to maybe just dye the hair, maybe cut the hair off. Yeah.
The other piece of feedback, you should play with your dog more. You should play with your dog.
Your dog really wanted to play with you, Brooks. Yeah.
And you looked like at times that you didn't want to play with your very good dog. It's got to be so weird having just cameras in your own home following you around being like, so you used to be sick.

What happened? Yeah. I would just I'd probably flip out and just like get the fuck out of my house.
And I'm so dumb when I was watching this show. I was like, I can't believe that they somehow randomly put cameras and production crews with the golfers that were making all that news that week.
Can you can you believe that they had a group following around Fitzgerald yeah excuse me Fitzpatrick when he won the US Open can you believe they had a camera crew following around Mito yeah when he choked away the PGA and I was like oh yeah they probably had a lot of different shitload of guys and they just use the ones that yes do you think uh do you think Brooks actually didn't know who won the Masters I actually I think his answer was honest in that he knew it, but like straight off, he,

he couldn't give it to you instant. Yeah.
I got that same, because he was like, this is bad that I can't remember. Sheffler.
Okay, see, that was kind of similar. I blanked on it for a second there, but I knew that.
Yeah. That was a tough episode.
The other episodes, a couple of my favorite episodes, I loved, obviously, Joel Damon, which we're going to get to. Just the coolest dude in the world.
Ian Poulter episode, I don't know. Dude, I don't really need to sit in the closet and watch you pick out your outfits.
Pants, though. For 15 minutes.
But he wears weird pants. Yeah, he does.
Well, the funny fact about that that I've learned this year afterwards watching that where they focus on his pants and his outfits the whole time. Live in an effort to make the teams more organized and be able to follow better are making the teams wear the same outfits and they just have plain blue pants.
Oh! That sucks. Pulse is probably going to come back.
Yeah, they caged a bird song. Fuck.
That's tough. That look for him the songbirds sing why does the songbirds sing yeah even the can't wait we're really even the cage bird sings yeah the canary in the coal mine yep uh i also i'm sure you guys all had these moments it's so funny watching a documentary type of a sport you know you have some knowledge about and watching them explain things to you in the most basic terms you're like yeah i fucking understand what a cut is and then i thought about how frustrating it must be for f1 fans watching drive to survive like real f1 fans being like why are they explaining they explaining the points? Like everyone knows this.
There was just a couple of times. They're like, yeah.
So everyone shows up on Thursday and they play and they cut it in half. And it's like, yeah, that's golf.
That was one of my other, but this is, I thought this. And then as I've been watching F1, I'm like, this is, it's the same production company.
They're doing it the same way. But with F1, I don't know what happened,

so it's fun to watch and see it unfold. The golf, I remembered what happens in all the episodes or whatever.
So doing it the nonlinear way, where it's like they're kind of going back to the same tournament, was kind of throwing me off. I was like, I kind of wish they just followed it as a season.
But I realized after the fact that's just how those shows are forming. Like I said on Monday's show, like there was just,

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No, it was. Yeah.
Like I said, on Monday's show, it was just a highlight tape of when I lost money betting on Will Zalatoris. Like there was that when they were doing the.
We were in the studio for like half of those. Yeah.
The Fitzpatrick one. The bunker shot on 18.
I remember. The US Open was literally my son's birthday and Father's Day.
And I yelled at the whole household being like, hey, everyone, let's get this fucking shit together. This guy's got to make fun.
Also not sequenced. Peak mass holes.
They were not fans of Fitzpatrick. Oh, yeah.
That was funny. Yeah, that was very funny.
There was a couple chirps, and they were like, dealing with the unruly fans. You got to, though.
That was some good mass hole stuff. If you're a true mass hole, that's the birthplace of the revolution.
Yeah. You got to defend your soil against the Brits at all costs.
Yeah. I respect that.
Yeah. I mean, it was cool to watch the inside of all that stuff and even seeing the clubhouses.
Rory's episode was awesome. I love Rory.
How can you not root for a guy like that? Where's his family? I don't know kind of weird was it not well if you're rory you probably have the clout to be like you can put me on the show just my family all right that's fair but i like it was weird when after he won the fedex at the end i didn't and he walked in the he walked into the clubhouse and the guy was standing there gave him a glass of red wine he was just sitting by himself yeah like this is kind of a is kind of a bummer. Tony Finau took all the spots.
Yeah, Tony Finau did take him. Huge family.
They waited at the private jet. Tony Finau is Dick Vermeule.
If you just say the word golf to him with a camera in his face, he'll start crying so much. His family's awesome, too.
In the story, Tony Finau, like the golf balls against the garage door, all that shit was so awesome. Like, he's another one.
It was Rory, it was Tony Finau, and Joel Damon of guys that I saw on this being like, I will always root for these guys. I like Tigala too.
I like, Sahith was my favorite. He was my favorite story and episode.
Really? His dad was awesome. His dad was like, he started playing golf.
And I was like, I think that my son's going to be really good,

so I have no choice but to do everything that I can to support him.

Awesome dad.

That was one I obviously knew he didn't win,

but when they were setting him up in the waste management

and he fucked up on 17, I was like, damn.

Yeah.

That was the most emotional I got probably watching it,

just being like, fuck.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I have some other.

What did you guys think about the JT Sp spieth card game that made no sense to me what were they playing they literally were just like 100 bucks if you guess a card oh yeah oh yeah yeah that's just guys big dudes that felt a little manufactured that felt you know what it felt like me to me is that they actually play cards for a shitload of money and they're like well we don't want to show that yeah we'll just pretend to do this that and uh when they did the facetime and like what should i talk about at your wedding and they were they made it seem like it was spontaneous but the cameras are both there yeah i that was the beginning of the first episode i was like this this might not be a good show but it it got a lot better but that those two things was like what this is both these both clearly staged for the cameras. There were a lot of conversations that would have been like just normal guys hanging out, being cool, except they were all set on the backdrop of a private plane.
Yeah. There were a lot of private plane conversations.
A lot of private plane. Oh, also, Justin Thomas, we got to have him back on.
His trainer's kind of fat. I don't know what that's about.
Yeah. Like, I don't know.
maybe it's different in golf and jordan speeth was working out in a polo yeah so perfect kept his hat on yeah he was working out in a polo we're gonna say hey uh danny rap our co-worker obviously made a bunch of they when uh he's and he's friends with fitzpatrick which was cool i didn't know that but fitzpatrick when he came he came in, he acted as if Danny Rapport was a bomb. He opened the door and was like, the cameras are on, the cameras are on, the cameras are on.
Yeah. I didn't know who he was talking to.
And then he came in. I was like, what? Danny Rapport's in the show.
Yeah, right. It's Danny Rapport.
What's he going to say? I liked how every time that they interviewed Rapport, he had a different glass of some sort of drink in front of him. Yeah.
But he never drank out of it. It was like his prop that he always had.
The only – I also like the DJ, the Paulina thing that I didn't think about that she said, which made a lot of sense, was like, yeah, I grew up with a dad who was like an athlete and was never around, so like she probably hated that. Yeah.
So it makes sense where she's like obviously pushing DJ to be be around more also uh the dj episode they showed i love like the old clips of of the guys like rising up dustin johnson's beard makes a lot of sense hank i know you you know why you have the same beard like i would i saw the old clips of him as like when he was a rookie on tour he was still a fucking tank oh what I was like, what the fuck? And then I realized, oh, yeah, that beard looks really good. Keep that.
I did have one moment that took my breath away that I'd forgotten about when Tiger Woods was wrapping up at St. Andrews or St.
Andrews, as they call it on the show. Yeah.
And he took his hat off on the 18th green. Yeah.
Whoa. Yeah.
He doesn't have a lot working with him. Whoa.
It is. It's bad.
It like a like a chia pet in the sahara desert yeah it's it's not good i know scott's scott van pellet's been trying to convince him come home shave that thing it is it is way way overdue and you think a guy like tiger like come on you you can get some lawn maintenance like you can do something you could yeah i mean but then again if you're tiger and you're still slaying it's like what's the point he does fuck he does big time i mean for sure proves we should get charlie wood should be on the next season who that was that was my other question is who obviously max max for sure i'm actually happy that you feel like was missing i i want like max it was almost good because max has had his glow up coming like the last i don't know whatever it is like 26 weeks or something yeah 25 months yeah so but he he will be great on it max will fucking crush it most of max's appearances this time were uh there were so many times when they showed tiger and then max was walking nearby but i was like there's max yeah uh al-taurus moreouris, more of it. They just showed his highlights.
He's out. Yes.
Tiger. Tiger, obviously.
John Daly. John Daly.
Zalatouris would be fun. Max is definitely going to be on it.
They did a good job for the most part with the roster. Also, obviously, that's why there's so many people.
Oh, can't. I realize I like Scotty Shuffler.
Yeah, no. There's nothing to not like about him.
I thought that he was just like a boring guy because I didn't really know much about him and they didn't have like anything cool to talk about when he was winning the Masters. They were just like the story behind this guy is he loves his wife and he's very, very, very good at golf.
Went to the same high school as Clayton Kershaw and Matt Sapp. There's also that little nugget that they dropped on us.
But I like him. I think he's actually a very cool, normal guy.
There's nothing. Yeah, there's nothing.
The only reason I don't like Scottie Scheffler is that I've lost money when he's won tournaments. Yeah, I don't.
And I've had the other guys. I don't like Scottie Scheffler because he does stand in the way of Will Zalatoris and Max.
Yeah. Yeah, he is.
But he, oh, talk about a choke job on that fucking. That was definitely football's going on.
I don't remember this tournament. The FedEx at the end.
Yeah, Rory Ron. When it was worth like $12 million.
Yeah, right. And started at 10 under.
Yeah. The handicap.
I also like Rory. Rory kind of saved the PGA Tour, him and Tiger.
I didn't realize the extent of everything that was going on, but they were very smart about the way they approached it because they knew that with the money that was being doled out from the live tour the pga tour was going to continue to lose good players right like some of the best players and it was a good intersection for them being like well we we care about the pga and we want it to succeed but at the same time we have an enormous amount leverage. So let's handle this behind the scenes, do a players-only meeting on a tarmac somewhere, and then figure out our list of demands, bring it to the PGA, and they'll have no choice but to approve it.
It's a win-win. Yes, I agree.
Yeah, and Rory, like he even said it, I never thought I'd be in this position because golf is a personal sport. Like you're playing for playing for yourself there's no team and for him to step up was pretty cool yeah you can easily if you're rory you can easily just be like who cares i have my money i've won my my uh tournaments like do whatever you want i'm not getting involved in this yeah uh rory did a great job with that he also said something very relatable which i think at least me and you can can relate to here which was uh when i was like 20 years old i thought there's no chance that i like i'm ever gonna be working when i'm 40 yep when you're 40 you're so old and now that i'm like 38 40 is not at old at all no it's not no not at all 40 is the new 17 for podcasters well we've don't podcascasters, we're uncharted territory.
The older we get, we've never gone into this abyss. We care about the future generation of podcasters, too.
We want them to get involved, but also we want to train them some wrong habits to make sure they don't take over. Yeah, I was going to say, I hope future podcasters get burnt out in like two years so that someday in like 50 years from now they're like can you believe those guys podcasted for like two decades of dominance the rolling stone podcasting yeah right holy shit we should do retirement how did they do it god podcasters can't even last 24 months now there's a senior tour for podcasters sponsored by rule sponsored by depends yeah just do it yeah we would just do it at like a coffee shop every morning yeah like a local coffee shop or donut place and just read the newspaper sign me up i'm definitely it so yeah that the whole thing was great though i i i enjoyed it there's a couple learning about the guys that we didn't really know much about like mito perera how he got on three corn fairy tour wins like i didn't know that was a thing i gotta say though mito perera saying like he just called his wife short he was just like yeah i love her she's short she's short but she's but she's feisty i think also i love with tony finnell's win he had one bogey the entire tournament and his son is like i'd make that butt eight out of ten times oh yeah it cuts to the end of the episode yeah i mean i i have no choice but to root for tony finnell i feel like you're a bad human being remember on the the Masters Part 3 where he turned his ankle and it came back into place? And our old co-worker

Colby was the Tony Finau

tracker. Oh, that's right.
He just changed his

Twitter handle to Tony Finau tracker

way before he became kind of

popular. And like we were talking about earlier, just guys being

dudes getting massages in the locker room talking shit

about the live players. Yeah, that was good.

Yeah, the locker room, there

should be more shit talking in that locker room. I feel like they all stick to themselves a little bit the gym i like the gym scenes too where like they're in their little like it's like a trailer gym yeah and they're all but they're all like working out and stretching but like they had dj rory in there at the same time it's a dynamic unlike any sport because like you're friends but you're competing but you're not really competing against them so it's like you can root for each other.
Yeah. I forget who it was.

Some guy, he finished a round.

He was not happy with it.

And then he went immediately back out onto the driving range.

Oh, Mito Pereira?

I forget who it was.

All the guys from Costa Rica or Chile?

Chile.

He went right back out onto the range afterwards.

And I understand.

Was it Tony?

I think so. I understand.
Once you get done with a a shitty round you want to fix whatever it is right then but you can't because you're in the middle of just playing shitty so you have to like go to sleep oh no it's it was it yeah you have to go to sleep and and wake up the next day and just hope that whatever it was yesterday is completely fixed somehow right right i golf is just fucking impossible sport It's crazy it's it's not because you can play so well for 16 holes you double bogey one see ya i saw a stat the other day where it was like scratch the difference between scratch golfers and golfers that hit 90 is uh only 1.8 birdies around so basically like it's not fucking up is like the key to being good at golf which is like you you think like oh someone's a scratch golfer they're just birdying everything it's like no they're just not bogeying anything yeah that's the difference like these guys are just so that when they get a triple bogey everyone's gasping yeah and like how could this happen like i i i could do that every fucking day like it's just it's like the recovery it's the recovery shots yeah like they hit yeah right shot right they everyone has recovery shots to hit are insane right like they like a bogey is is is a really bad for them and it just shows how fucking like for us one bad shot ruins the hole they just bounce back no 73 a chin of cock yeah so no i'm just saying one bad shot it's like all right i'll just do another bad shot well If I had one really bad shot, I'd just pick my ball up. Right, right.
And then I'm not me. No, I'm just saying one bad shot is like, all right, I'll just do another bad shot.
Well, no, if I had one really bad shot, I'd just pick my ball up. And then I'd just, okay, next hole.
On to the next one. I also laughed out loud every single time a golfer took their shirt off, looking at the farmer's tan that they all have.
Yes. It's always shocking to me how it's like the perfect line on their biceps, perfect line on their neckline.
It looks like they're wearing a white T-shirt permanently. Yes.
The whole thing was great. It was great.
I'm excited for the next season. Also, did you guys see that they're doing one for football, which that will be funny when they explain the rules to football.
Hard knocks? No. It's Mahomes, Kirk Cousins, and Marcus Mariota.
They followed all three of them this year. Wow.
Yeah. It's actually the perfect three.

You know what I mean? I'm interested in all three for different reasons. Yeah.
Also, did you see that Brittany Mahomes and Joe Rogan are clashing? I did not see that. I did.
Yeah. Yeah.
Was that one of your hot sequel thrones? Yep. All right.
Sorry. So we'll get to it.
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All right, back to part of my take. All right, let's do Hot Seat Cool Throne.
We have more full swing with Joel Damon coming up. Hank, Hot Seat Cool Throne.
My Hot Seat was LeBron. You're probably pretty broken up about this.
Yeah, I mean, I was excited, you know, 23 most important games of his career. That's exciting.
So it's a shame he's going to have to miss a bunch. It really is.
And then my cool throne was I have a couple. LSU signed Bob Diaco.
They're back. Fuck yes.
I met Bob Diaco's, like, nephew or cousin at Barstool Scottsdale at the bar and he just it's very rare you know like we love whenever people come up to us and say it's very rare that you can stop me in your tracks and be like a lot of people like oh yeah I remember this or this or random thing but to say like I'm related to Bob Diaco I like, like, stopped and was like, wait, what? Like, had a whole conversation with him. Did he tell you about LSU? I don't think he did.
Damn. Yeah.
I would not have sat on that news. Come on, Hank.
My cool throne is Dame Lillard. Yeah.
Dropped 71. 41 in the first half.
I feel like the Donovan Mitchell one got a lot more buzz. Well, no.
The Donovan Mitchell one happened during DeMar Hamlin. I remember it was against the Bulls.
Oh. He got less buzz.
There was one headline. Remember after he was taking pictures and the whole world was like, did this guy just die? There was a headline right after Dame 71 where 71 where somebody said like is this the most underwhelming 70 point performance in nba history jesus christ i respect it though it also 41 in the first half you must you must absolutely hate sports to have that be your initial take like oh that sucked the uh yeah i mean the the nba went nuclear this past weekend like last four or five days.
Clay hitting 12 threes was insane.

They also showed the stat.

I'm going to look it up.

But basically, anytime someone scores over 60,

it's just a reminder that Wilt Chamberlain wasn't real.

Most 60-point games.

I think it was something like the most – yeah, he has 32 times he scored 60-plus.

Kobe is number two with six. And then Dame's five, right? Yeah, Dame's five, MJ four, James Harden four.
But like 32 times. With no three-point line.
With no three-point line. And, I mean, not to go doc heavy, but there's a Bill Russell doc on Netflix, and it's just like he just owned Will Chamberlain.
Oh, yeah. As good as he was.
It's crazy how dominant Bill Russell was. Didn't wilt sleep no did bill russell sleep at wilt's house when they played sometimes i thought there was that a lot of people slept at wilt's house that's true that's a very good point might have been the other way around a lot of people a lot of people 20 000 that's such an insane number it's cat i mean duh it's cat it's like but like, you have to be fucking all the time.
Even if it's a quarter of that. All time.
Right. And it probably is a quarter of that.
Yeah. Yeah.
He also had an insane bench press. I think it's Wilt.
Yeah, 500 pounds. Yeah.
And long jump and 40 times. And high jump.
It's just insane. Like, not only tall, but freakishly crazy muscle contraction.
Like, crazy stuff. All right.
Good job, Hank. Thanks.
You're looking a little stressed. Yeah.
Chicago Moves got me. Oh, I was saying your beard.
Yeah. Is it the lottery ball? That's a lot of things.
Hank did say that he was going to retire from Twitter. You won't.
I could. I mean, if I didn't have this job, I would be off social media.
That's not true. 100%.
That's not true. I actually believe Hank.
If you told me I... Think about it.
The guy can't tweet without saying fucking a man. He's not exactly...
Think about all the whale content that he'd be missing. True.
No, I would just... You'd have a small Instagram.
I'd go IRL to the whales. Oh, yeah.
True. True.
But yeah, you said you were going to delete your account. You were going to deactivate your account.
No, I just said I'm going to retire from Twitter until I get the lottery ball. So you're going to deactivate your account.
I didn't say that. Forever.
You're saying that by saying that you're never going to get it, so just deactivate your account. But hey, what about when you guys come back? That was an all-time delayed Hank reaction.

What about when you guys come back against the 76ers from a 3-1 deficit

and you beat the Sixers in the playoffs?

Are you saying that you're not going to tweet about that?

I'm planning on having the lottery ball soon,

so that conversation shouldn't be a part of it.

All right, Max, by the way, great to have you back.

How was vacation?

Vacation was great.

I love vacation. Did you shred some gnar? Any pow-pow? I went down the mountain.
Okay, so that's a no. Yeah, I'm not the best skier.
I go pretty slow, but it's fun. Yeah, it is fun.
Better or worse than your golf swing. Definitely better than my golf swing.
That's good. Definitely better than my golf swing.
Because, I mean, if you were as bad at skiing as you were at golf, you'd be like, yeah. Better or worse than the Sixers versus the Celtics?

I don't know.

They didn't have that game in the mountain.

Oh, okay.

So, Max, what you did miss, though, Hank said,

we came to the conclusion that a Sixers-Celtics series would be so great for this show.

And Hank, not being the content guy that he claims to be,

said he wants the best for content would be a Celtics 4-0 sweep.

Wrong.

Yeah.

Now, let's see. not being the content guy that he claims to be said he wants the best for content would be a celtics 4-0 sweep wrong yeah no it's i i listen to the show it's absolutely 3-1 3-1 blow it and that's probably what i don't know you won't get it we know no yeah we will get smoked the celtics just fucking own us and it's so frustrating wow it sounds like you really got some perspective on this vacation, Max.
No, I just fucking hate the Celtics so much. And I fucking hate Doc Rivers.
I don't know. The Sixers.
Well, it came from the... Doc Rivers won an NBA championship with the Celtics.
I know. Why? He should be able to do that with the Sixers, right? That's got to be a Sixers problem.
That's a good point, Hank. No, he can't.
That's a good point, Hank. He could for us.

Alright,

your hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat was going to be Bryce Young and his height, but

we covered that a little bit, so I'll just, I'll

mention briefly the

pre-dawn raid that occurred

this morning on Dan Snyder. This happens

once every three months where somebody

at ESPN will write a long hit

piece where surely this will be the end of

Dan Snyder that drops at like 7

a.m. in the morning and then everyone talks about

Thank you. months every three months where somebody at ESPN will write a long hit piece where surely this will be the end of Dan Snyder that drops at like 7 a.m.
in the morning.

And then everyone talks about it for morning.

And then we realize, oh, well,

nothing's going to happen differently because Dan Snyder doesn't care about

bad press.

Right.

So right now they're in the midst of a back and forth.

It's like a PR battle.

Snyder's been saying to certain sources at the New York post,

I'm not going to sell to Bezos.

The bids haven't been high enough.

And now the owners respond by releasing their own hit piece on Dan,

trying to pressure him out,

thinking that they can shame him into selling the team.

But Dan Snyder cannot be shamed into doing anything

because he does not experience shame.

He experiences, I don't know what emotion it is he experiences,

but he is the secretariat of not feeling any problem at all with his own lack of dignity. He's maybe the best person in the world at not having that.
So my cool throne is going to be the NBA Eastern Conference. The Eastern Conference, because Joe Pronte's back.
That's right, bitch. Our guy Joe Prontei, the guy that looks like your accountant's accountant is back as the assistant coach of the Hawks.
Yep. And they also hired Quinn Snyder.
Yeah. Who looks like your accountant's accountant's Coke dealer.
Yep. So they've got the whole shebang going on down in Atlanta and the New York Knicks are back big time.
Six wins in a row. The Mecca is going to be popping.
Mecca is popping. I'm just going to say New York is on my cool throne.
The Mecca is going to be popping. The Knicks are good.
And they've got the Rangers are now picking up Patrick Kane. That was my hot seat.
Okay, well, sorry. It's the Mecca.
Yeah, that is the Mecca. And New York in general.
Plus, New York, I also saw that they're selling rat meat now on the streets. I saw a video yesterday of a street vendor with two rats on poles,

and he was just grilling them over a charcoal grill

and selling their meat to the public on the streets of New York.

What?

You ate the trash.

Oh, you got duped?

That was like right-wing propaganda.

Oh, no, you got duped.

I also read an article about street vendors selling rat meat. Oh, no.
On what site? Did you get duped? You got duped. CNN.com.
I didn't even fall for that. Fuck, dude.
I didn't fall for that. We got to release a statement.
We have to release a statement. New York rat meat vendors.
We have to get in front of this. People are going to say you got duped.
What is our response? Are they eating rotisserie rats in New York City? It's right-wing propaganda.

I saw the exact... Billy would know right-wing propaganda.

I'm trying to get better.

I'm trying to get better.

I also read an article about it.

Which is...

I'm trying to get better at not falling for that stuff,

but that was 100%.

What were you just asking, Hank?

I get confused on the right and the left.

I knew that was what you were asking.

I fucking knew that was what you were asking.

When you hold up your left hand...

He just said, which is...

It makes an L.

And I knew exactly what he was wondering.

Which is...

Thank you. I knew that was what you were asking.
I fucking knew that was what you were asking. When you hold up your left hand, it makes an hell.
And I knew exactly what he was wondering. Billy's right wing.
Got it. Billy's hardcore right wing.
Got it. Do you have a statement? Well, I don't know if it's true or not.
Don't fight the dupage. Just say you got duped.
Oh, because the liberals are cooking rats. Yeah let's see this guy uh beehive media says that it's true oh that's the most fake account on the planet damn and then the uh that's like the and then the caption of it is is this real so probably not yeah dude what are we gonna how are we gonna go forward uh well here's here's what you do when you get duped by something.
Here's the best way to respond. Well, the fact that I thought it could be real tells you everything that you need to know.
That's true. That's a good point.
That's the best way to admit that you're wrong without ever admitting that you're wrong. That's a very good point.
That's a very good point. Did you really think that could be real? Yeah, he did.
Yeah, I did. He definitely did.
I did. He definitely did.
New York's got a real rat problem, Hank. So does Boston.
I saw the end of the Departed. All right, my hot seat, we talked about it on Monday, but all our sports teams suck, PFT and I, and now Patrick Kane has been traded to the Rangers for nothing, pretty much.
It was like a second rounder, and then there's another second rounder that could become a first rounder if the Rangers go to the conference finals in 2023. It's just sad.
I'm happy I get to watch Patrick Kane play playoff hockey, but the fact that the Blackhawks bungled the second half of his career just sucks. Yeah.
Thank you, Canada, for having your dollar not inflate correctly. Fucking A, man.
I feel you. The Celtics just went from first in the place.
They're not in first place in the East anymore. What place are they in? Second.
I think they're tied for first. Bucs have won 14 in a row.
Yeah, so I feel your pain with that. You're not worried about the Bucs? You should be.
No, that's a no. He said a no.
I'm focused on the Sixers. Well, well yeah you of course you beat the fuck out of them i mean you lost to the knicks hank i know without jalen brown the mecca um yeah patrick king treat is a big time bummer uh and everyone everyone fun to watch the highlights though what like when a player oh of his time yes then you get it's a it's a like it's sad but you get ever you get the good memory lane he's the best that you don't otherwise get i mean rangers fans knew it there was a uh rangers fan wearing a cane 88 jersey in msg the other night so they knew it uh then my cool throne is us and our take on victor webiniana so So Charles Barkley has come out and said he doesn't know if he'll be good because he's got to see him play the physical nature of NBA basketball.

This means he's going to be out of this world good

because Charles Barkley, who I love, is kind of stuck in the past sometimes

with his takes.

He famously obviously said before the 2015 playoffs, he doesn't trust a jump shooting team to win a playoff series. Talking about the Golden State Warriors that went on to win four titles shooting jumpers.
So I think that if we're worried about Victor Wem and Yana playing the physical style, banging in the post, I think we're good. Do you remember this old hit from Charles Barkley when Yao Ming came to the NBA? Yeah.
One game in, Charles Barkley goes, this guy stinks. If this guy ever scores 19 or more points in a game, I will kiss Kenny Smith's ass.
Yeah. And guess what happened? I think the next game he had like 24 points.
Kenny Smith brought out a donkey. Yep.
That was Kenny Smith's ass. And then Charles Barkley went up and he kissed the donkey's ass.
And then Kenny was like, what are you doing? Charles, you didn't have to kiss the ass of my ass. You just had to kiss the ass.
Wait. We just gotta buy donkeys and just eat them.
Yeah, I have to buy one donkey, you buy one donkey. And then we kill them and then we eat them.
If Chris and Yelich wins it. Yeah.
Problem solved. Yeah.
People will be upset about the donkeys being killed, but donkeys can't even... Procreate? You're talking about mules.
Yeah, that's mules. Oh, that's mules.
What can donkeys get? Donkeys are libs. Fuck.
I always get right and left confused. Yeah.
I write it down on my hand, my palm, before I get up every morning. Yeah, left hand's a snowflake, right hand's a cartoon frog.
Billy. My hot seat's Joe Rogan.
Yeah. First hot seat.
So Joe Rogan was doing a Protect Our Parks podcast with Shane Gillis, Mark Norman, and Ari Schaffer. Sure.
Close. Close enough.
But yeah, so they're just shooting the shit. They're like fucked up uh and then Shane Gills was like I'm starting to like uh Jackson Mahomes starts talking about Jackson Mahomes says he actually respects him for like going hard and is totally flipped on him not that he had opinion on before anyway Brittany Mahomes gets brought up about how she like sprays champagne in the box and like uh lot.
Anyway, long story short, Joe Rogan made a comment being like, wow, it's crazy because they take that crazy energy and just bring it right back at you when you get divorced. Anyway, Brittany took...
That's a weird comment. It is.
They're married still, right? Yeah. Yeah.
But just assuming they're going to get divorced. And then Brittany Mahomes tweeted something about grown men talking about someone yeah no i i i'm not listen i'm not offended it's more like oh like yeah i guess like if you're pretty mahomes you could be a little i'm not upset britney homes could be upset yeah yeah something about grown men talking shit about someone's wife is real weird and then she tweeted again, actually grown ass men hating on women in general is pathetic.
I disagree. And Gillis was like saying he likes her.
Yeah. And then Joe Rogan made a joke.
He wasn't talking about Brittany Mahomes. It's a podcast being written out.
He wasn't going to get a divorce in the homes. He was just like, you know, passionate women in general

are passionate when you get a divorce, too.

Which is...

He wasn't talking about the Patrick Mahomes

and Brady Mahomes specifically.

A podcast transcribed is the worst form of media

ever because you can't tell

what anyone is saying.

Inflection, any of that.

And also, if Brady Mahomes hadn't said anything,

it probably would have...

It sounds like it was a throwaway, right?

Yeah.

But it is a feud now.

Well, we're talking about it because of the reaction right so they may have been on mushrooms that's a weird feud i never thought rogan rogan versus my homes i mean i'm in i'm in on it i saw i'm actually taking britney's side on this yeah i i britney i free britney i yeah it's just a i didn't have that on my bingo card i mean i feel like Britney Mahomes she's she's definitely in the burner gang she has had she's been offline for a while she has been very active in the burner community i'm certain about it and i'm okay with that i like having a ride or die chick i mean look at Patrick Reed's wife remember her used golf She's the best. Yeah, it is funny, though.
If you transcribed every Joe Rogan podcast, people would find basically every minute something to be offended by, which is stupid. But that is how it works.
Right? Every time he's trending, it's like... And these ones he does with Gillis and then they are just getting fucked up.
I know. They're very funny.
They're very funny. so though when it's not even just like It's a podcast it's like we're just Shit face shooting the shit We were on drugs at the time I'm sorry They were doing whippets I mean that rules Very loose buttholes Alright your cool drone Is that whippets? No Whippets are Oh the balloons Yeah yeah yeah Nos Yeah Got it My other cool throne is Sci-fi headlines There's Canadian super pigs That are trying to come over the US border Fuck them Like half Like feral hog types No So not only Not my watch Bumble.com too.
You don't have to call it. No, no, that's real.
Canadian bacon. Uh-huh.
Yeah. Yeah, but like apparently they're coming over the border and like destroying property.
What are they doing? That sounds like a right-wing conspiracy. They're like destroying agriculture and they're just like apparently gigantic, super feral hog pigs.
We got to build a wall. No, we got to do the- I watched a video online uh black hog down yeah they were oh yeah you can get a helicopter and just fucking lighting up sydney wells did it yeah sydney went up there ar-15 build a fucking wall oh no this is the guardian that's that's lefty right no you don't know you don't know oh all right jake uh my hot seat is tom brady tom brady reportedly is starting to pursue career in stand-up comedy, but he's on the hot seat because...
Is that from Bumblebee? No, Barstool did a blog on it. Oh, Barstool.
Whoa, whoa, Hank, are you saying we're not? Was it Thornton? Incredible journalism? All right, all right, all right. If it's Thornton, it's legit.
Yeah. But the reason he's on the hot seat is because, Tom, if you're watching this, you should be spending that time with me practicing in the booth.
Let's go. This summer I'm wide open.
Let's make it happen. Get your reps up, Jake.
Yes. I really want to see Tom Brady stand up.
Let's get ready for 2024. Same.
When I saw this report, and it was from Radar Online, so you can take that to the bank, they said that his stand-up routine needs a little bit of work, but he's committed to it. And apparently his inner circle is trying to get him to talk about it.
Yeah, because he's owed like $20 million guaranteed from Fox, so I would understand that. At first I was like, there's no fucking chance Tom Brady is funny.
It can't be possible. It can't be.
He has everything else going for him. And then I thought about it and I was like, you know what's going to happen? Tom Brady's going to go out there and out there he's gonna kill it he's gonna be better than chappelle yeah he's gonna but he should practice for the booth with me he should absolutely yeah but yeah he is he basically just picked the one profession that everyone would be like you're gonna suck just so he can feel that itch again it's like uh it's like beat bobby flay except he's just taking everybody's job and he's better than everyone at everything Tom Brady being like an insane stand-up comedian would just be wild let let ugly people have one thing Tom come on I think you'd be a really really good podcaster and should never try it oh I don't know if he's I don't because he doesn't need to prove he would definitely be good enough so no he's not built like us no that's why that's how he ends podcasting.
Why would you want him to podcast? He does podcast, bro.

Jim Gray.

Wait, you're talking him into us?

Not podcasting, because he only does what the haters don't want him to do.

Are you trying to get him to start a podcast or do an interview?

It'd be our competition.

Yeah, you just...

You poked a bear.

You just made him compete against us.

No, no, I was soothing the bear, being like, you'd be a great podcaster.

PFT and I are Tim Rattay, and what's another one? There was a Gino something. Who's the Brady Six? Tim Rattay was definitely one of them.
What Brady Six? The six guys taken before Brady. Oh, taken before him, yeah.
Was Chad Pennington taken before him? Maybe. Yeah.
Way to go, dude. No, no.
I think he'd be a really good podcaster. No need to try it.
Please don't give him any ideas. Tom Brady, if you're listening to some of my voice right now, Tom Brady could take your job and be better at it than you are.
Giovanni Carmazzi. Yeah, Giovanni Carmazzi, Mark Bolger, T.
Martin, Chris Redmond, Spurgeon Wynn, Chad Pennington. Oh, no, Tim Rattay.
I was wrong. Some of them had solid careers.
Yeah. Spurgeon Wynn.
So, yeah, that's the hot seat. Tom, I will do it free of charge.
of charge My cool throne is chugging soda There is this young Florida Panthers fan On Jumbotron chugged a whole bottle of soda Like a beast Also cool throne Ruffin Rowdy Tune in Friday night Big Cat will be there in West Virginia Ruffin Rowdy 20 Big Dick Booty Daddy's back Never thought we'd see him again Yeah fuck that guy yeah no i agree i hope he gets i went to his house and interviewed him before the last fight really oh yeah it's crazy how many guns does he have he's got a lot he's doing though he's fighting if he doesn't get a knockout he gets no money no money if he gets if he doesn't get a knockout. If he knocks him out, he gets $7,000, I think.
Who's he fighting? The Irish Dave Portnoy. Irish Dave Portnoy.
Okay. Dave Portnoy.
All right. Got it.
And he's not Irish. He just has red hair.
Okay. Got it.
How is that possible? Is he Scottish? No. I mean, he might be Irish like two generations ago, but he's not from Ireland.
Okay. Got it.
He's Irish. Got it, got it.
He's like everyone on St. Patrick's.
Got it. Okay.
His liver is. Yeah.
Let's get to Joel Damon. Awesome interview.
It's more full swing talk. Looks like the boys need to take a piss break.
Well, we have. It's a mini fire fest.
They've stocked up on instead of normal water bottles, they're now one liter water bottles. Yeah, I've just.
Everyone's been pissing. We've been pissing a lot.
I'm pissing clear right now. Yeah.
I've never been this hydrated. Love it.
Hank, you have to go too? Yeah, I'm like three waters deep. Oh, shit.
All right. That's fine.
Three liters. Me, Big Cat, and Max.
Should I jug it? Yeah. Spurgeon, Wynn, and Chad Pennington over here.
We'll finish this off. I can jug it.
Yeah, jug it. Yeah, no, no.
Hank, go to the bathroom. No, jug it.
Go to the bathroom. Go to the bathroom.
You just asked if you could jug it, and I said jug it. Go to the bathroom, Hank.
No, no, no. Improved a bladder.
No, no, no. He needs to go in the jug.
Look, he got so low. You won't be able to do it.
No, you won't. He's going to be like Ed Sheeran all over again.
Dude, I'm a fucking road dog. Get out of here.
You think I can't piss in a jug? Hey, Max, put the camera on, Hank. Okay, good.
Look at the Jerry angle. Are you going to put your dick on the show? You won't be able to do it.
What are you talking about? I don't think you're going to be able to do it. Hank, look at me.
Look at me. What's up? Make eye contact.
No, you can't do it. Billy's going to walk in.
Jake's going to report me to HR if he sees me. Probably.
Come on. Let's go.
Shut up. We'll wait to do the ad.
Let's see you do it. I need to get an angle.
Oh, what's up, Pilar? Come on, Hank. Shut the fuck up.
Just do the ad. I don't think you can do it.
No, we're not doing the ad until you're done. This ad read is going to be presented to you by Hank's hot piss.
I just need to make sure. You can't do it.
You've been talking about it for three minutes. Shut up.
It's not an issue.

Three minutes of talking.

Let's talk more pee.

I just want to apologize to my mom.

I know she's going to get mad at me for this.

For what? Peeing in a jug?

Can you mic it up?

Look how easy it is, Hank.

That was fucking nothing.

That was fucking the easiest thing in the world.

I just pissed...

While you were preparing to piss, I pissed in that jug'm going Oh you are? Yeah What are you thinking about? Oh here comes Jake And Jake Hey Jake what's Hank doing? Oh Is he pissing? Yeah I just pissed in this one You guys have done it before right? Yeah I just did it just did it. We did it I'll throw that out for me the Dungeons You big I like to find they Talking about it.
They doubled the water bottle size in this office, so it's just forced you to drink more which is great Hank are you peeing? Yeah, are you it's really taking you a while? Yeah, guess guess how much in a liter bottle? You'll probably get halfway. I'm not good at metric system.
Alright, he's done and oh, nice. Whatever that is.
That's clear. Big guy, you gotta drink more water.
Look at his compared to your... I mean, he's still a little yellow.
I've been crushing waters. Yeah.
I almost said something that I... I almost said something really bad.
Thankfully, you didn't. I was gonna say that if Hank gets a lottery ball, I'll take a sip of this.
But I didn't say it. But I didn't say it.
But I didn't say it. We don't have champagne.
I didn't say it. I didn't say it.
You did say he's never going to get it. So might as well say it.
No, I didn't say it. I didn't say it.
I didn't say it. If you're sure he's never going to get it.
If you get it, I'll take a sip of this. All right, fine.
Deal. Just for this episode? Yeah, just for this episode.
Yeah. All right.

So if I get the lottery ball, you have to take a sip of your own piss.

And if you get it, I'll take a sip of my own piss.

And I have a pack.

All right.

Yeah.

Can you put a top on it, you fucking psycho?

That's crazy.

It's also hanging halfway off the edge.

There's dip in his, too.

That would make it so much worse.

Yeah.

Wait a minute. I'm drinking my own urine.

I don't dip.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did he just piss in there

yeah i pissed in this one too i have the worst fire fest for thursday okay

we're talking about the show say it now i got bit by a bunch of fleas what the fuck dude how

are you doing that my dog came back from work was being kept where your dog was at work

i was away at the pll i got my dog back and then I was sitting on the couch first night, thank God, and I started feeling, oh shit, something just bit me, and then I realized he had fleas, so it's just my couch. I'm clean, don't worry.
But they itch so goddamn bad. I've been trying to keep it together because the Benadryl just wore off.
Yeah, so you're sitting on that couch infested with fleas. Next to Jake.
You're going to get Jake sick with fleas. No, no, no.
Not this time. We had our own hotel rooms.
No, no. Right now.
Oh, right now. No, no, no.
You can't carry them. It's not like that.
I bet you could figure out a way to contract fleas. How'd your dog get him? Because he...
Oh, he was at work. No, but I caught it the first...
He works at the flea factory. I caught him for the first time.
No, I caught it early, thank thank god because the only place he was was my couch so that's like ground zero so we disinfected i did the whole anti stuff but i'm itching so badly right now it is terrible so is this better or worse than your uh your tiger infestations um the past few years this is actually it's once a year i get hit'm currently, yeah. It's wild.
Remember when you got bit by tigers and then you couldn't eat meat for the rest of your life? Nope, I'm out of the window, actually. That's a shame.
So I beat it. I beat Alpha Gal.
I didn't know, never mind. Okay.
Don't transcribe that. Alright, let's do the ad.
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And now here's Joel Damon. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.
He is a two-time top 10 finisher in majors. He is top 80 in the world in golfing.
Is that right still? What are you at right now? Probably closer to 90. Top 100 in the world in golfing he's also taken the world by storm with uh his episode of uh in full swing the netflix documentary out now it is joel damon joel damon thank you so much for joining us i think i speak for everyone when i say you stole the hearts of uh people who watch netflix documentaries because they have nothing else to watch in late February.
Fair. Well, thank you.
I appreciate that. I'm glad it turned out pretty good overall.
I'd say we haven't had a whole lot of negative feedback, which is always great, but we kind of just put ourselves out there. When you have a camera and mic on you all the time, and you guys know about that, but it's easy to slip up and say something stupid and i think they did some good editing for us wait so what is the negative feedback you definitely had one where you're like fuck this guy what he has it so wrong i mean a lot of it is i mean i they did lean into my self-deprecation or my apparently i don't believe in myself at all according to the show but um it was just a lot of people reaching out like wanting to help me like i have a problem or an issue or i've had all these sports psychologists reaching out i'm like all right that's a bit of a stretch but um you know it's not nothing real negative there were some people who didn't like my drinking mid-round that was a that was a big problem for some people i didn't have a problem with that that was one of my favorite parts of the entire documentary yeah when you're trying to qualify for the US Open and you do the longest day in golf, our good friend Danny Woodhead almost qualified, I think, at that same tournament.
So after you're done with one round, you weren't playing very well. You slammed a couple of claws back, had a few white claws, and then you went out there and you played better, which I think is very relatable because most normal people, they're like, I'm better when I'm buzzed.
Would you say that's fair, like at your level too? Yeah, there's a very thin line there for, you know, when you're one of the top players. Obviously, you can cross that line very quickly, and it gets ugly out there.
But, yeah, I wasn't playing that great. I tend to have a couple of claws at home with my buddies.
know when i'm out playing with them that's just kind of you know we listen to music we drink some beers we play fast so uh this one was kind of no different it was i had to play well in the afternoon um it just seemed like the right thing to do at the right time and uh glad it worked out for me yeah so you mentioned the self-deprecation um people reaching out that is funny that people are like hey i'm here for you uh random stranger on the internet who watched the documentaries but i so i i think deep down you the what i loved about the episode is you're a very relatable guy in the fact that i think you know you know you're very good at golf you wouldn't be on the pga tour right like that's correct so it's like almost people forgot the very basic thing of like obviously he knows he's very good at golf there's just a difference between maybe you and the guys who are so insanely like singularly focused that uh they like it just consumes everything you have maybe a little bit more of a balanced life is that fair to say I think it's it's very fair to say. Yeah, those guys at the top, like they're dedicate their whole life to being the best at what they do from their nutrition to working out to, you know, the people they surround themselves with where I mean, I take my job as a professional golfer very seriously.
I mean, I do practice. I do work hard.
I do have a trainer. I do have a swing coach.
Like, I surround myself with great people, but I also like to have fun. And, like, golf does not consume who I am.
I have an awesome wife. My caddy and I are best friends.
We hang out all the time. We go have some beers after rounds sometimes.
We, you know, whatever that is, I like to go on vacations. I like to just kind of hang out.
So when I'm playing golf, I'm very serious. I'm working hard, but I can shut it off just as easy as I can turn it on.
Yeah, that's a great answer because, yeah, I didn't watch it being like this guy. It's so sad how much he puts himself down.
It's just like, hey, there is, you know, it's actually very similar to the Tony Finau episode. Like, it doesn't just because, like, golf isn't everything to you doesn't mean you don't care about it and want to do well when you go out and play in tournaments.
Right. Exactly.
And I think that people think, I mean, a lot of people on the outside don't really understand that. I mean, you can get burned out very quickly, you know, just, you know, endlessly hitting balls and practicing all the time and the travel, you know, there was of those episodes guys are flying in planes uh that are personalized to them and i'm flying uh private with my friends on american airlines often so uh it's just a little like you know you burn it out from all the practice from the travel being away from your family like that that all can take a toll so i try to enjoy both sides of it yeah so what's the difference between being the, a 50 to 100-ranked golfer in the world and then being in the top 10 in terms of what you can do on the course? Like, we know, obviously, like, they're psychos, and all they care about is golf, and they wake up thinking about golf, and they go to sleep thinking about golf.
But, like, physically, from a shot-making standpoint, where is that separation where you become, like, the best of the best? best yeah i think the big separation is in the ball striking and if you just look at the fedex couple of the money list every year it's going to be typically the guys who hit it far so um you know you look at i think one and two three in the world or scotty scheffler and ron uh and rory right now like they just bomb it and they hit it very straight and then they hit their irons really well, and then they make some putts. But the one thing is length and accuracy off the, and then your approach play into the green.
So if you can give yourself the most birdie chances after hitting a great drive. And then after that, the guys who win are the best putters of the best ball strikers that week.
A lot of people think, oh, I want to make all the putts.ts well you have to get to the green first uh to be able to make the putts so these guys are yeah and so i think that's just the biggest separator where i'm not necessarily a bomber i'm pretty average uh off the tee i hit it very straight i'm one of the most accurate guy but i'm also 50 yards behind some of these guys uh and that's just a huge huge difference so so how long exactly are you would you say uh i mean like four or five inches okay yeah uh yeah that's you are very average yeah no yeah bro yeah i could be a professional golfer with the same dick size exactly uh i i think i average like 295 off the tee like if we're in like a dome situation it like flies like 285 and goes to 300 yards like that's kind of a pinning situations yeah that's i mean it's crazy too just just saying that being like yeah these guys uh at the top are 50 yards farther and you're like yeah you're hitting 300 and so it just shows how insane professional golf is how good you guys are it's it's it's nuts and the yeah and the athletes are just getting bigger and stronger and you know technology is better and the instructions better and all that stuff is like optimizing how to hit the golf ball now and it's just like so you have these bigger stronger better athletes working out more with better technology all of a sudden you know the ball is going to go forever it would be pretty funny if you had a steroid arc where it's like joel damon shows up to like the phoenix open just completely shredded and then you get yeah and then you get busted for steroids but then you're like hey all you people hit me up about full swing you said said I should take it more seriously. There's nothing more serious than taking steroids.
Like, there's an arc there. I'm just saying.
There is. That's fair.
That would be an interesting one. I don't know how, you know, golf is still mental as well.
But I'd be curious how that all works. Do you get road rage on the golf course? That would be a next level out there.
Do you get piss tested after you do really good in a tournament? So it's not quite like you're seeing in other sports. I think DK Metcalf had an amazing catch and won the celebrity MVP when he gets drug tested the next day or these guys hit a bunch of home runs or whatever it is.
So not quite like that. We do have scheduled – I don't know how scheduled.
They're quote-unquote random. But you get four or five uh piss tests a year and you're supposed to get one blood now because we're an olympic sport so it's kind of here there pretty i mean if you're not doing anything too stupid it's pretty hard to fail it would be it would be funny yeah you should do steroids no we're not trying to ruin your career joel we're rooting for you but you should do stuff right joel you're joel i want you to listen to me you're good at golf man yeah i want you to know that you're good like all right so you're good yeah you and you and like all right let's just play it out you do steroids you get busted you get banned from the tour we get to talk about it and make a lot of funny jokes the podcast gets better so are you a team player well uh with that being i mean if i do get busted can i do you think uh dave would hire me

maybe with foreplay guys or just like i could just be some guy around the office whatever that is but yeah if i if i go if i take your advice get busted for steroids then i you're gonna need to give me a job somewhere along the way well it's actually i i'm thinking about this now it's crazy that um and maybe this happens in golf circles, like a super, super rich dude just hires a former PGA golfer who got banned from steroids, you, to basically be his partner in all club tournaments and stuff. I'm into that.
That sounds great. You basically just travel around.
You play the best member guest. You just drink and eat eat and you kind of hustle people out of money yeah it's a great day yeah yeah are you

at the point where you'll go to golf court like have you have you shown up at like a muni track

and tried to play undercover and just sandbag the hell out of anybody um it was easier a couple

years ago my cat and i used to do some money games um you know we would reach out on twitter

and be like hey i missed a cut this week in boston or wherever we were at and we'd go out and play but

Thank you. ago my cat and i used to do some money games um you know we would reach out on twitter and be like hey i missed a cut this week in boston or wherever we were at and uh we'd go out and play but uh it's a little bit harder now to do it but there's been a couple times you show up and people don't know who you are you just kind of get a game which is fun but um after a couple holes they kind of figured out so i haven't figured out the full sandbagging side of things yet uh but i think it would be a ton of fun to be an undercover i think it'd be fun if like max home and i went out to like as mutie and just like had like ruffled old like happy gilmore and clothes and like these crappy clubs and showed up to the first tee and and uh balled out on some people that'd be a ton of fun do you think do you think that you guys could do that and and hustle people effectively if like the way that you would sandbag them would be you have you try to hit your t-shot in the bunker on every hole on all 18 holes do you still think that you would like mop the floor with your really good like local club player oh that's an interesting one it probably depends on the harder the golf course it is the bigger advantage two other players have.
So if you go play like your local easy country club or whatever, Muni down the road, the separation won't be as much as if we were going to play like a U.S. Open setup.
That's when you get a big separation where like a club champion would still probably shoot 90 at a U.S. Open setup where tour players, we can keep it under 75 most of the time.
So I think that would be the biggest advantage or the biggest, would be the biggest difference in the game. You were talking in the documentary about how Max, or maybe it was Max that was saying it, how when he gets drunk, he just tells you repeatedly that you're good at golf.
Does that get annoying? We both have kids now, so our drinking time has been less lately and he's's also I think he's inside the top 10 in the world now so yeah but he's a choke artist we both know it oh that's such a scratch that's uh that's that's tough to hear did you see him at the genesis did you see him at the genesis do you I can you call that a choke oh yeah we called it a choke we dubbed it we we claimed it it was a choke. What about the other six times she's been close to leading these, close them all out? I think his record's pretty good.
Lucky. Lucky.
Mostly luck. I actually think he's going to win the Masters this year.
I also do think he's going to win the Masters. We have a complicated relationship with Max where I'm very negative to him because everyone on the internet sucks his dick constantly.
So you have to have, like, one guy you still suck bro and it might as well be you it might as well be you know you're the guy you're the guy that he just posts his tweets like he pins or whatever he puts someone like his mirror in the morning and he wakes up maybe that's just you yeah i like that i think i think he's gonna win the u.s open uh i don't know much about the masters i haven't been there but i think the u.s open is he gonna it's in la you know it's where he's from he's got to win the U.S. Open.
I don't know much about the Masters. I haven't been there, but I think the U.S.
Open, it's in L.A. You know, it's where he's from.
He's got all those positive vibes and all those cool things he says now and his mantra. So I think L.A.
could be the spot for him. Yeah, I like that.
So speaking of Max, let's play a game called I Asked Max Some Stories About You. So this is what he gave me.
This is so bad max said uh ask him how many white claws he drank when he shot 58 at his home course uh yeah it was probably i believe we got to 12 on

the 18th hole um so it wasn't it wasn't like the most ever but it was a pretty good clip to shoot

1400 bar as as your swing coach i highly recommend that you get wasted at all tournaments. Yeah, there has been discussion, but I don't think that there is a spot there, and I found a spot that day.
But if you poke the bear too often, it doesn't work out in the end. It's very true.
Somebody should actually study that because we've all had the thought, maybe when you're playing beer pong or you're doing some sort of like right eye hand coordination event where you reach that golden space where it's like if i were to guess it's probably right around a 0.06 to a 0.07 if you were to take a breathalyzer science should really catch up to this because i i do think that there's something to the fact that if you're buzzed but not drunk, you can be better at certain spots. There is something with the freedom.
It just kind of frees you up. It clears your headspace.
And I think like, you know, a lot of people play darts or beer pong or pool. It's like, oh, I got to be a little buzzed to play this better.
Like we all know that feeling. So I think if you can somehow get there sober all the time, that'd be great.
But that's just not realistic in the fun games we play. So, yeah, it's easier after three or four beers to just find your zone and and get after it okay so we're talking about buzz but you were hammered when you shot a 50 well white claws is over five four or five hours so so you know that's only i mean after i hold the putt to shoot 58 then i got hammered yes that was uh that was a fun next couple hours that's an insane score i mean were you just every single hole you're just like i keep doing it what's going on now because you it sounded like you were having fun when you were doing it yeah we actually had uh kyle schwarber and ian hap out uh that day and then a couple other buddies so we had a we had a good group we had a six um uh it was in it was during the pandemic 2020, so the Cubbies had their time off.
But I was only 200 through seven, so I shot 12 under my last 11 holes. So it was kind of a blackout on the golf course side of things.
You know, it clearly wasn't blacked out from the White Claws, but it was a, you know, it was a moment that I probably will never return to on a golf course, but I'm glad it happened. That's incredible.
All right. Here's the other one.
Um, questions that Max asked or asked me to ask you, um, the time that you went out on a Friday night because you thought you missed the cut, but then you found out that you actually did make the cut. Yeah, that was back on the corn fairy tour back in 15 or 16.
It might have been summer of 15. We're in Springfield, Missouri.
That is maybe the armpit of America. That is a tough area there.
Great tournament. Nice host.
Just a tough area. So it's like 100 million degrees.
It's hot and humid. It's in July.
Yeah, I thought I missed the cut, so we had some beverages. And then it turns out I made the cut.
So it was one of the first off Saturday morning. I was not feeling well that morning.
There's possibly a video I might send you guys after this if it's kept under wraps. It's pretty great.
But I filmed myself walking on the first tee and not feeling so great. ended up making 10 birdies that day shot nine under and was in uh fifth place after that day so uh there's been a couple of these things i really don't do it that much anymore like almost never um which is good but uh yeah there were there was times when i in my younger days uh when i could handle a hangover better than I can handle one now.
Yeah. I think you've taken, like, between full swing and just talking to you here, you have the title as, like, guy everyone should want to golf with.
Because, like, when I think about, like, oh, I want to go golf with, like, Jon Rahm or, like, you know, Jordan Spieth. No, not really.
They're probably psychos. You would probably be a good time.
You know what I mean? Like it would, you probably don't, especially when you're not playing competitively, take it that seriously. Yeah, I think golf is, I actually have the most fun being good.
If you're near the lead on Sunday in tournament, that's the most fun. But if not, I would, I love to play golf.
My buddies back home.. It's one of my favorite things to do.

They're working 40, 50-hour weeks, so when they get off, they're having the most fun.

All of a sudden, they're at their Disneyland, and I get to join them in the best part of their week.

We're going to drink and hang out and have a blast and kind of talk shit to each other and gamble a little bit.

So I love that.

I'm at a fun place called Mesa Country Club.

The four play guys actually came out and did a scramble out there. It's's just a great group of guys.
You just get together and you have a blast. So if I hit the lottery, I don't know if I play PGA Tour golf anymore, but I would still play golf all the time with my buddies.
That's awesome. Is there a caddy that just walked by? Yeah, that is my caddy, Gino.
Does Gino want to come over and say hi real quick? Gino, you want to come say hi to these guys? Do they want me to come say hi to these guys? I think they think your bald head is beautiful and they want you to come over here. They shave badly.
Said his bald head needs shaved. I don't know how this audio works, but we're a close couple here anyway, so we can do it.
Hey, Gino. Hey, Gino.
What's up? How's it going? Go left of that. He was just telling us how you won't let him get drunk anymore while he plays golf and how he secretly resents you for that.
Yeah, I know. Well, sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.
And I would say it probably doesn't work out more than it does. Sorry.
Technical difficulties. That wasn't a technical difficulty.
That was just stupid. You just never put on headphones before.
It's a left ear. I'm going to give you the other one.
You're in the wrong one. There we go.
He needs a caddy. Yeah, why don't you let him drink? I enjoy money.
and the alcoholic beverages seem to take that out of my pocket sometimes yeah yeah would you guys consider uh your relationship to be a bromance i just think we're just basically married at this point um i don't know what you would call that but uh we spend as much time together as we do with our wives. And we kind of fight like married couples, and we complete each other's sentences and all that jazz.
That is true. We'll get into arguments on the golf course without ever actually speaking.
He'll pull a 7-iron and hit it over the green. I was like, I had a whole argument with you about why you should have hit an 8, but you won the argument.
Right. never no words were ever actually spoken yeah and so there's a there's a great moment in the full swing episode when you call him a boner at the u.s open um love yeah i was hoping that one wouldn't make the uh i was hoping that wouldn't make the cut but yeah so has there ever like a point because you guys have a very unique caddy player relationship where i would imagine um tiger's caddy's not being like hey you fucking boner uh probably not but has there ever been a moment where you thought gino you might have gone too far or joel you were like hey dude you're my caddy like chill out for a second i try to be conscientious of the fact that he is my boss he's my best friend but also i respect him and i try not to take it to that next level and i know i couldn't say that with other players if i was just randomly caddying for somebody else i would never do that so i kind of know my boundaries and what i can and cannot say or should not say to joel so uh i'm always mindful of it.
I try to stay on the good side of the line there. Yeah.
And Joel, so has he ever, what's the closest, like where you're like, you know what, fuck this guy. Well, I think I say that all the time, just in a strictly like a brother thing.
I'm like, no, it's a terrible club. That was a bad read.
That was like, so he lets me vent to him and doesn't take it personal, which is great there's been times where he's like dude you are miserable to be around right now like like have more fun shape up or this is this sucks you suck at golf right now and you have a terrible attitude so i don't want to be around this so he kind of kicks me in the butt that way that it kind of gets me turned around but we've got a few dust-ups out there 99 my fault of just saying stupid things to him because I was mad. But he's really good about keeping it pretty business on the golf course.
We have fun, but it's still – I am the one who cuts his check, so I get to be the boss, which is great. At the waste management a couple years ago when you took your shirt off after playing the 16th there, who's – did you that joel was going to do that and after the fact did you try to you should try to take the heat for him be like i told him to do that i'm sorry like as a caddy you could you could get away with like you know i'm i'm the bad guy here don't attack joel you're right i should have uh now that you say that i've never even thought of it until right this moment.
I definitely should have took the heat for that one. No, I did not know the shirt was coming off.
The way it played out with Harry Higgs and the fact that he had a 10-footer for par there or whatever and everyone chanting, take it off, take it off. I think you can hear me say in the video, I was like, if he makes this putt, I feel like it's coming off and you know sure enough that shirt comes up and I looked up and they started throwing beer cans and one was coming right at me and I didn't know if they're full or empty or what but I felt like I was in danger so I actually ran through the tunnel to 17t as soon as the beer can started flying and I stopped and I looked back and I could see Joel you know helicopter in the shirt and I was like oh my gosh that was that was something else but I definitely should have taken the heat for that one Joel if you make if you make a hole-in-one at the 16th hole at the next waste management you got to go full frontal right yeah just Just drop trowel.
You guys should do meat spin. You guys should do meat spin together.
I remember together. On our college days, you would go in and change the homepage of your buddy's computer to meat spin.
Yeah, exactly. You count how many spins you get.
Right around, baby. Right around.
Wow. That's classic.
Yeah, I don't know if mine's big enough to meat spin, but I might have to actually just take my shirt off. All right, so wait, last question for Gino.
Do you ever talk shit to other caddies? Because I would do that if I was a caddie. You'd be so bad at that big deal.
Maybe not as much as I should. And it's, you know, a lot of other player caddies don't have as much fun as we do.
They are working. So, yeah, they're taking their job serious and all.
But there might be some poking. But it's all, like, just little playful stuff, nothing too aggressive.
It would be more fun if we could really get after each other. Yeah.
Like if you win it, if if i if i was a caddy and my player wins i'd be like uh bump up my rate because you should have seen what i did yeah you should have seen what i did to the fucking the the co-leaders caddy on the 15th hole like i i just mentally destroyed him he hasn't had a good all day you gotta start doing that that's right you gotta start yeah that's a that's a good call i feel like that's a really quick way to be hated yeah no that's fine yeah who cares it doesn't matter if you're if you're hated who cares it's just you can't let you get well yeah as long as you're winning right who cares like you can't be uh 200th on the fedex because i'm talking shit to everyone and then try to get a job funny yeah yeah um all right well gino thank you by the way we might have just started to put a little birdie in joel's ear that he should start taking steroids you guys can deal with that later um but thank you for hopping on for a second oh you guys are awesome thanks so much Thanks so much. All right.
See you, man. All right.

So, Joel, I was like, I had questions being like,

how does this relationship work with Gino?

Because it is so unique.

But like him just hopping on, I get it.

I'm just like, yeah, he's actually the perfect guy where you can tell he has fun,

but he also knows how to switch it and be serious if he needs to be.

Yeah, totally.

I don't think Gino gets enough credit for actually like, he's a very good golfer on his own i mean he's a scratch handicap um so he's good at golf but he also like he knows golf he understands strategy he's actually a very good caddy um like if i were to fall off the cliff tomorrow he would be picked up very quickly by another player out there he's very well liked by everyone he's respected by the players. So I think that's a misnomer.
Gino's just my buddy who just has a good time and we're just hanging out. Well, actually, he's a very good caddy as well.
And I'm lucky that, you know, we kind of get both sides of that. Yeah.
Does he advise you on your fashion sense? Like the bucket look, the bucket hat look. Bucket hat rocks.
I like the bucket hat, but we're historians of the game of golf. And as far as we know, I think I've been watching golf for like seven years now.
No one's ever won a major championship whilst wearing a bucket hat. Correct.
Yeah. The bucket hat is, I don't know if it's quite a fashion statement, but it is great for skin care.
Protect yourself from skin cancer.

It's the number one way to do that.

So I don't pretend that I look maybe the best out there,

but I will say that when I'm 65 years old,

my skin will not look like a crocodile wrinkled, leathery, gross,

as much as some other guys out there.

So that's what I'm going with.

It's also nice that you don't get that forehead line that everybody has.

There were some brewing forehead lines in the Netflix documentary documentary shocking yeah i'm sure there's there's a lot of those i mean stewart sink i think is known for the most yeah with the bald head and that which is it's incredible to see even in person but uh yeah the the tan is way more evened out which is nice and uh keeps the sun off me for the most part which is great listen hats, no one's ever seen someone in a bucket hat and been like, that guy looks so fashionable and awesome, like attractive. But they do look at it and they're like, that guy looks like a fun time.
I would say so, especially if you're at like a pool party, you throw in the shades and the bucket hat, now you're protected and you're like the fun guy who's kind of the beach, the pool. That's right.
I think they've really come in lately and you see a lot younger guys doing it in the sun I think it's a great idea yeah so you did mention you did mention uh protecting against skin cancer you have an unbelievable foundation you just launched it's called the Damon family foundation uh not to get serious but that part of the story on the full swing that was a really like impactful you lost your mother to cancer you had cancer i think your brother had cancer i mean it's really did they when they brought those up were they were they trying to get you to cry or was it because i feel like there's something that happens in these documentaries uh where they maybe like showed you some really like sad pictures and then they're like all right we got some questions real quick about your mom right it was i would say that uh i can talk about my mom 99 of the time without crying but uh you know like you said they they they push some buttons on there and they put the and they i don't know it's almost like the music comes on you know when those things and you just feel like all the feelings are there and they ask you these pointing questions and you're like Like, yeah, I mean, and you kind of get into it. I mean, you know, I've, it's a, so yes, correct.
I think that that was their goal. They knew what they're doing.
They're good at their job and it works. That's for sure.
I did not plan on crying about my catty, but yeah, crying about my mom and kind of the struggles we had with cancer. Yeah.
I mean, that's just, it's real and it sucks. But, you know, everyone can actually – you know, you can actually relate to that.
Yeah. Because everyone has – everyone knows someone or either directly or one of their friends or whatever it is.
So, you know, cancer doesn't care who you are. Yeah.
And the Damon Family Foundation, go check it out now because it benefits children and families through the game of golf and focusing on cancer patients. So, yeah, you're right.
Everyone knows someone, a family member, friend who's dealt with cancer. So, it's something that we should all rally behind.
Go check out the foundation. Yeah, for sure.
I think we're going to try to have a golf tournament in December in Mesa,

Scottsdale area.

So we'll try to launch one.

I'll try to have some of you barstool crazies come out and have a lot of fun.

I know you have a bar out there now.

Yes.

So might as well.

And we can get you guys swinging some clubs,

and then we'll go to the bar afterwards.

I'm in.

I'm in.

I shot a 72 at Shinnecock.

I just want to let you know so you don't stand back.

Did you shoot the 70? I shot the 72. How did that go down? I shot the 72 at shinnecock i just want to let you know so you don't stand back did you shoot the 70 i shot the 72 i shot the well so i went out to shinnecock uh and then i played and then after i wrote 72 on my my my scorecard oh well great job thank you i mean that's yeah that's pretty pretty simple like you could the thing that people don't realize about golf you can shoot whatever score you want when you just write on your scorecard.
It's so stupid that people are like, I'm trying to get under 100. It's like, bro, you can be under 100 tomorrow.
Right. Just write it down and don't use an eraser on it.
It's perfectly fine. Yeah.
I actually did have a bunch of people hit me up being like, I didn't know you were that good. It's like, yeah, man.
It is what it is's really good that day that's awesome i'm curious i have one last question because i noticed uh more so during the documentary than i have watching golf about the uh the ludicrous size i don't know if it's the scorecards or the yardage books that you guys carry around in your ass pocket all day yes do you have to do you have to get special pants for that because it doesn't look like they fit in a normal pocket so that's funny you say that they look even worse on the lpga tour because the girls have like you know way way smaller shorts or whatever and the pockets are smaller but no they uh the people who make the artist books there's a couple different companies but there's a couple popular ones out here. They do fit in a normal pocket, but they are rather large.

I just carry one because that's what the good players do.

I don't really look at mine that often.

Gino does, which is good.

You put your Yardish book in there, you put the pin sheet, you can put little notes,

and then a lot of people carry the scorecard in there as well. It does look funny but a lot of people have their favorite teams on there or you know they put their nickname or uh whatever it is my wife made mine like eight years ago so i feel like i should use it still even though i don't really look at it but it looks it makes me look like the part more so than anything else oh yeah by the way congratulations on having uh a child that means you're gonna play well yeah is that what that means that that perspective thing and like the whole like life change thing yeah and you take golf more seriously all right yeah which is i'd like that'd be great yeah which is even more shocking how max choked uh at the genesis so but i mean you we do expect big things from you this year with new fatherhood.
Well, yeah, it's been fun. We're five weeks in.
My wife has been amazing. It's amazing to watch what the women have to go through, and then their instincts just take over, and all of a sudden they're just this amazing mom.
So for me, I'm working at it. I'm participating a lot.
I don't know if I'm good at it, but I'm trying hard. I'm trying to make sure my wife's comfortable and I can do all the extra around the house.
But it's been a lot of fun. I can't wait for the little man to grow up.
And I say don't wish for all that other advice. But, man, I want my kid to be like 10 and playing sports, and I can go yell at the referees and do all that stuff.
That's what I want to do. Yeah.
And also you can use your child as a shield in case anybody accuses you of taking steroids yeah like listen i'm a father i've there are more important things in life than golf right now i wouldn't sully my body by doing that wow way to bring that back in that was that was impressive that was true professional podcasting there yeah no it is true you can just anytime i'm i find myself in any issue i'm like listen father too dude Like how could I – how could – it's whenever someone's trying to get out of a big issue. They're like, as a father and man of faith, how could I ever say this slur? Well, I said it, but how could I? Right.
That's fair. That's a good point.
Barstool, I got – big cat, I got to ask you. I think I first heard of you back when you were manhunting.
Yes. That was the first time you came across my feed.
Can we go manhunt something else or do something fun? I really enjoyed that. Dude, that was, so if people don't know, it was back in 2013, the Marathon Bomber.
It was an old Twitter, like very old, you know, Twitter 1.0. Dave and I did, we found the police scanner and we live tweeted kind of illegal looking back on it because like we actually probably uh harmed their own investigation we were just live tweeting updates from the police wait were you the guy like were you the guy yeah I was on top of it that one poor bastard bastard get accused? No, no, no, that wasn't us.
No, that was before because there was a kid at Brown or something. MIT or something.
Yeah, no, this was during the actual event. And then, yeah, that was a crazy time.
I was addicted to manhunting. I'm down to manhunt something.
So what should we do? Yeah, I'm pretty into that type of type of stuff well i'm not sure uh i mean i was willing to take your lead on it but i would just you know let me know if if one if you see something come up that's worth manhunting uh i'm pretty into it dude you know what what about uh one joseph coney oh yeah child soldier leader you remember him we never did find him back in 2012. Yeah.
Uh-oh. I'm going to have to look back into this.

Maybe we... oh yeah child soldier leader you remember him we never did find him back in 2012 yeah uh-oh uh i'm gonna have to look back into this maybe we should we should we get on the trail again yeah we should probably get back on it you do you know i don't know if you saw but i got uh since i had that like buzz for manhunting i got addicted to like police scanners and stuff and it all ended with like two months after that there was an upside down horse in california that i was like live on the scene on the scanner and i was like this is probably too much like i don't i being a police scanner person is a little weird like it was like four in the morning in chicago and i was just like we got a horse upside down in a hole like what are we gonna do how are we gonna get this horse out how did you choose which scanner you would go you just go to big one i just go to random ones people would tip me off being like hey we got a we got a situation going on here and i would just and then yeah and then you there's a point in your life where you're like am i going to be a full-blown police scanner guy uh and i stopped it right then which i think was the right choice that was the right choice but it was i think if it's I think if it's just big enough and it's captivating the entire country or the world, I think you should get back on the chase again.
That was rather enjoyable. You know what the best are? The people that just dedicate an entire Twitter account to a college town, a small college town like Iowa, their police scanner.
And then after a big win, it's all tweets like, there's a 19-year-old female who's on top of a traffic signal. She refuses to come down.
I love those. I love those updates.
It's crazy. I'm not narcissistic enough to say that the FBI literally tried to dupe me and Dave because we were so hot on that Marathon Bombers case.
But if you remember how it ended, it was crazy because they called off the investigation they're like calling off the manhunt i went to walk my dog stella and i came back and they're like we got him so it's like they called it off so it's like hey everyone go home just kidding like manhunt over and they caught him like 10 minutes later because i think they were trying to get like everyone to like relax for a second so they got you know it was a. It was a great time.
I appreciate you following through that. Yeah, I'm all in on it.
Yeah. Can we quickly talk about Seattle sports because you're a diehard Seattle sports fan? Absolutely.
So would you like to tell us about Russell Wilson? Yeah, super weird with that one. I got to admit that I had his his jersey i was a huge fan um and i believed in like what he was selling uh you know that special water that could cure his concussions and like he actually like people actually liked him and uh he was great in the locker room and this raw raw stuff like and the amount of comebacks he had and like just the weird stuff that happened in his career kind of uh it kind of all made sense and then uh turns out he's fraud is is a bit much but uh sounds like he's you know kind of got big too bit too big for his boots and i'm glad that he's not a seahawk anymore and then all these stories are coming out loud they didn't really like him at all so yeah uh thanks for the super bowl i appreciate russ but um you know good luck down the road what about the kra? Are we into the Kraken? We are.
I'm actually a season ticket holder with the Kraken. Oh, hell yeah.
So, yeah, I split them with my cousin up there in Seattle. I mean, I can't lie.
I have not been to a game in two years, but I'm a Kraken fan. You have the tickets in case you're in town.
That's great. And you have nothing else to do that night.
We sell 95% of them. I have a hoodie.
I have a hat. And I check the ESPN app every now and then.
So I'm a pretty big crack and fan. Yeah, a huge crack and fan.
And the Mariners are back. Like, they're officially back.
Yeah, it was nice to make the playoffs last year. I mean, that was a huge – I mean, I grew up with Griffey, right? So, like, that 95 Mariners team when they came back from down 0-2 on the Yankees was, like, when I was a huge – that was all of it for me.
And then in 2001 was their last time they made the playoffs, but they won 116 or 120 games in the New York season and, you know, obviously lost in the first round. So, I think with Julio Rodriguez leading the charge, we have some solid pitching.
Jared Kalinic is having, I think he had an awesome offseason. He's going to have good spring training, and he might actually kind of be dangerous this year and come into his own.
So I'm actually a big Mariners fan. Follow along.
It's not just fake. So I'm super excited.
I'm hoping we can kind of go on a run here. Those mid-'90s Mariners teams are some of the funnest to just go back and just name guys that were in that lineup.
Right. It's still – We had the most guys maybe ever in Major League Baseball.
For Mike Blowers and Joey Cora and Jay Buhner and Vince Coleman and Tino Martinez, yeah, Dan Wilson catching. I mean, we had it all.
They were so good. Really good.
Yeah, and fun. What about the Sonics? Are you on team to bring the Sonics back? Of course, yeah.
I think I was pretty disappointed when the Kraken came in. It was kind of a two, hey, if you can prove you have a hockey team, you can redo this arena, you know, we can do this.
But it seems like it's down the road a bit. I, you know, I grew up again with Gary Payton and Sean Kemp and Detlef Shrimp and, you know, like unbelievable time to be a, a Sonics, you know, fan.
And so, you know, and even then we had Ray Allen and when I was a freshman in college, maybe a sophomore, but we had Kevin Durant as a rookie there. So like it's, you know, in Seattle's basketball, I mean, people follow it.
Like the, the high school scene scene is unbelievable how many players come out of Seattle area.

I think the culture's there.

I think if you got a team back, I think it would be insanely popular.

Hopefully it's happening.

The other problem is the NBA is so watered down now.

The difference between the top five or six teams and then the bottom half is just atrocious.

If you just add two more teams, you might as well have me play on the Sonics at this point because they'd never win a game anyways that would actually be really fun i'd watch that yeah like that that's a genius idea oh yeah i'm in yeah the seattle boy done good plays on the sonics and just gets absolutely torched every game uh we i would i would definitely not go inside the arc on offense or defense.

So however we go, I'd be like a terrible,

be like the worst version of J.J. Redick you've ever seen.

We're talking during the dunk contest.

They should have just some random guy come out onto the court

and get dunked on on every single dunk.

So you have like an incredible 360 windmill,

but then just some poor sap that just gets teabagged and falls in the second row just for the effect of it. We always say on tours, like you have a lot of people like, why don't we have like the local club champion come play or the random 10 handicap come to you off first and come post a score and see like what it's, what it's really like out here.
So I think if you're getting dunked on, that's not quite as much fun as playing golf. And you can't put someone on a football field because they might actually die.
But it would be nice to have just your normal average Joe who thinks he's a decent player come on and just watch him get clowned on. Yeah, it would.
It would be awesome. Remind us just how insane these guys are.
Right, right. We do sit on the couch and we're like, fuck this guy.
He just rolled his ankle. Why can't he get back in the game? We did say that.
Brock Purdy's arm looks good to me, bro. Right.
You're totally right. I just keep it up.
How did they miss that read? You throw it over here. It's so easy.
But apparently it's not. It is so funny when you break down sports fandom.
I know Brock Purdy was very hurt, but there's also a part of me that's like, this guy's being such a pussy. It's like, it makes no sense.
You know what I mean? Like, I'm fully aware of the fact that, like, that is wrong thinking and I am a wrong person. Sure.
But you can't deny that that part pops in your head and you're like, this guy's so soft, dude. Like, how is he not throwing the ball? Just gripping.
Of course. But that's why it's called fans, right? Isn't fans short for fanatics? Yeah.
So, like, that's just, yeah, we're crazy. I do it.
Like, when I'm watching golf, I'll play in the morning and shoot three over and come sit on the couch and flip it. I'm like, oh, you can't hit it there.
That's unbelievable. I'm like, oh, that guy's beating me by seven.
So, like, what am I? I'm like, God, you're terrible. I'm like, you literally are beating the crap out of me on the same – I just played the same golf course two hours before you.
So, yeah, I mean, I do that all the time. Yeah.
All right, so I had one last question, Joel. This has been awesome.
We really appreciate you coming on. Rowback question.
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That thing is not leaving. It's my hybrid.
Talk us through that. So you have a, like, no one has a $44 club in their bag, right? Like, as pros? There are.
There's actually another player who has the same hybrid. It might be Stewart Sink, actually.
Or maybe, no, Glover who has the same hybrid as me from the same time, 2011, I believe. Some guys will grab random putters.
You can be very personal. Putters are kind of whatever.
Whatever you can make a putt with, you just kind of roll it. So that's easy.
But yeah, technology has came a long ways. But I actually think with this certain hybrid that I have, it has been so good for so long.
so it actually caved in on me after 10 years so gino bought three more on ebay at like 40 bucks a piece so i have backups and then people have been sending me their hybrids it's like just so i have a closet full of these things in case they ever keep breaking i can just keep going to them that's awesome that's like that's like finding one pair of shoes you like and just buying them all yeah i mean that's i'm not quite there yet but but i can see one day where i will be that person you have you have cornered so is it is it like is there anything special about the club no that's that's the crazy part is even like the shaft is like straight off the it's off the rack as it called it's not it's just like anyone can go on eBay, grab this hybrid, and it's 20 degrees, so it's like a

two hybrid for me uh goes about 225 230 yards and so i use it into par fives if it's shorter i need a lot of par threes out here on tour and um it's obviously my favorite club but uh you look down it's all scratched like the paint's coming off like there's just there's still the sticker on the shaft uh you know it said like pre-owned so that's pretty great but this is what i like it's and it worked for me did you name it no i haven't actually but someone made me a head cover with gino's face on it and it said like gino's favorite club please pick me or whatever so i stuffed this it's not very good-looking head cover it's not Gino's Falls just like this brownish looking one whatever but the actual face just Gino's smiling faces on there so I'm just that's just floating around with me in the bag all the time which is great if I like all for I would name my clubs that'd be sick yeah that is a smart idea I should I should look look into that. Yeah.
Henry the hybrid, maybe? Henry? That's a terrible name. Yeah, he's not going to sound like a winner, though.
Maybe Hank? Yeah. Hank.
Yeah, but Hank's kind of like the tank, and this guy isn't really a tank. He's more like a sniper.
Okay. So, yeah.
Also, don't. Chris Kyle.
Golf ball's like the size of a ping pong ball. That'd be bad luck.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. But, Joel, thank you so much, man.
This has been so much fun. Yeah, thank you guys.
This is awesome. You guys are – I follow along to all of your hooligan-ness and all the crazy stuff you guys do.
But, yeah, you guys are great. Thanks for having me on.
Yeah, appreciate it. And we'll definitely have you back on again when you're going to win something big this year.

I feel it.

I feel it.

I love that.

I'm going to try my hardest.

I'm going to put a little, not more work in, but I'm going to continually work at it.

And hopefully the stars align for me.

Same amount of work.

Yeah, right.

Hey, listen, you're good at golf, man.

I just want you to know that.

Yeah, actually, Max sucks.

The fact that he just gets drunk and says that,

who wants a drink with that guy?

Yeah, you're right.

I mean, he's too serious and he's too good.

So I got to go out.

I got to beat him these next couple weeks.

So I have some bullets in my chamber next time he comes talking crap to me.

I love it.

I love it.

All right, thanks so much, Joel.

Appreciate it, man.

Okay. Great interview with joel damon thank you so much everyone go check out his foundation uh let's wrap up we have if you skipped ahead by the way we had something happen right before the ad uh hank peed in a bottle i peed in a bottle and if either of us get the lottery ball number correct, the other person has to drink out of their bottle.
So that is going to happen. I'm going to get the number.
I'm going to get the number. It's not.
Okay. Chicago FAQs.
Yes. Quickly before, Billy is wearing the hat.
I've been wearing it for the last month or so. PFT liked it so much he basically stole mine when he saw me wearing it.
Those are on sale today as well.

I would say it's the best hat

we've ever made.

I agree.

I confidently say that.

I wear it all the time.

Agreed.

No, PFT literally was like,

why do you get that?

Yeah, no, Hank does get his...

He big-dogged you.

Hank gets his grubby little mitts

on the merch

before anybody else

gets a chance at it.

Yeah.

Yeah, and I happily gave it to you

because they're great hats. All right.
Chicago FAQs. How many people asked for jobs? Memes went through these, so I'm sure he filtered those out.
Okay. Hey, fellas, can you give us a rundown of all the features of this new office? I've heard there will be a basketball court.
Yes. But what else besides that? Yes.
Workout area, tennis court, batting cages turf area pool hot tub sauna steam room pool

tables ping pong etc no ping pong table i'll hang up and listen i'll have a ping pong table yes it

is no we're gonna take it away for vibes got it uh it's gonna be incredible uh it's a big reason

for the move is you can't get this type of uh office in new york city we'd have to go live like deep into New Jersey or something for that.

Uh,

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The warehouse is big enough that we'll be able to play wiffle ball. We have a ton of different new studios.
PFT is going to have a music recording studio. There is a kitchen for cooking videos.
The gambling cave is going to be sick. It's basically if you thought about like if Barstool Sports met I don't want to say Jude Perfect.
Just say Dude Perfect. Fantasy Factory? Yeah, Rob Dyrdek's Fantasy Factory.
Yes. And then we're going to have a bigger green screen room, a bigger studio for stuff.
It's going to be everything we've wanted. We've loved our time in New York, but this office, I'd say we've outgrown a long time.
I also think... I mean, you guys, it was just us when we moved to New York, but when we were doing the show remotely, talking about moving to New York, this is what we were trying to get.
Right. Correct.
It just didn't work out space-wise. Yes.
But this has been something I would say has been in the works. And we didn't just start thinking about it.
We've always desired to have this space. And now that we have it, it's going to be great.
We actually looked when we first moved to New York. I remember Dave, Kevin, and I went and looked at spaces, and we looked at a space in Long Island City that was similar to what we're getting, and Dave was like, it's too far away from Manhattan.
So it is, yeah. The amount of content that we're going to be able to create day-to-day is going to be insane just by the space that we have.
Hank has actually been talking to me about maybe getting a full F-18 cockpit flight simulator.

Oh, yeah, we're going to have a new gaming room, too.

So the full F-18, Hank says that there's room in the budget, so that's going to be incredible.

I can't wait.

I told him that he just came into some money, and that's a good investment for him.

That is a good point, though, PFT, because we will have a new gaming room,

and when the NCAA game comes out, I'll bring back that kind of stuff stuff we don't have a lot of those things in this office right now uh when is the move happening uh i'm going to be i think the first one out there as far as i know yeah so i'm heading out i'm heading out in june same and uh gonna get to spend a full summer in chicago i've spent a grand total of probably 15 to 20 days in Chicago over the course of my life. I'm told it's the best summer city in the country.
It's very fun. So there will be a fleet of boats.
There will be a lot of golf being played. And it will be a great place to get my feet wet.
I'm going to probably move sometime in July, depending on Baby 3 when his arrival is. And then in terms of when

the new office will be opening, it's

a set date of September

1st. So planned for November.

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hiccups to start, but we

will hopefully be in the new office for football

season. So that's actually

a good question because

June and July

we might be getting a little creative with some of our taping uh i assume people will be cool with that uh but we will obviously still have a show every single monday wednesday friday it's just we might be doing a little bit of remote taping i might come to chicago and do it in the old office you guys might come back here for a couple tapings but we'll figure it out so there might be about a six week stretch where and some of us aren't. Yeah, and if you can't make it out, I'll just do the show The White Sox Dave.
Yeah, people love that. Yeah, no, it's going to be...
I guess this is probably... We had a lot less listeners back then, but in my mind, it's...
There might have no listeners back then. It's like the same as when we moved to New York, which obviously that summer was very much in flux..
Chaotic, yeah. I mean, well, the first six months of this show was all Skype.

Right, right.

Yeah.

And technology has come a long way because remember how bad the audio was with Skype shows?

Yeah, and sometimes our producer just wouldn't be awake.

Yeah.

Now we have, I actually think Riverside.

Well, I mean, that's, you know, long days on the boat and then trying to record a podcast.

Like that might happen.

Yeah, that might happen. Jumping off a bridge into the ocean.
That's why we're not moving to L.A. Is the whole PMT crew relocating to Chicago? Good question.
Good question. This is what people want to know.
I'm like 50-50. I'm less than that.
Yeah. I mean, it seems fun.
It seems like a cool city, but I have to be sold on it a little bit more so there's a bunch of people moving from the office including a lot of the PMT guys I think we're going to do by April 1st we'll have a full answer to exactly who's coming and who's not but Hank, Max, PFT, myself and then like I said a bunch of people in the office I think there's some people in the office that are weighing their options. So by April 1st, we will know exactly.
But I think a lot of people know, like Brandon, KB, Nick, Kate, Mark Titus. Who else? Uncle Chaps is coming.
Am I missing some people? Donnie. Donnie just dropped that on us yesterday.
i'm very excited chef donnie and wanton don so i've heard yes i've heard that as well well what well i love donnie so much he can't not i love chef donnie as well but uh and i had a conversation with him a few months ago but wanton don came up to me it was like i was just thinking maybe like i don't i travel a lot like maybe i'll come to chicago it's like yes dude yes yeah he he brought that up yeah Out of nowhere, a couple was like, I was just thinking maybe like, I don't, I travel a lot. Like maybe I'll come to Chicago.

It's like, yes, dude.

Yes.

Yeah.

He brought that up out of nowhere a couple of days ago.

I was like, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would rule.

Yes.

Jerry.

Jerry's coming.

Maybe Steven Shea.

There's a lot of people.

So it'd be great.

It would be a great, great group.

Big T.

Big T.

Maybe.

Maybe.

Yeah.

So there's a, there's a lot of good people. First, congratulations on the move.
Do you think it will be harder to get guests in Chicago versus New York City? Good question. I think the truthful answer to that is yes.
A little. A little bit, because there just won't be as many guests.
In-person guests. Our mission will be to be the spot that you go, we're chicago if you're coming there for sports you're going to stop and talk with us yeah so i i've thought about this because obviously there will probably be the way i've broken down in my brain i think a lot of people who listen to this show there's some really good guests joel damon was a good you know uh uh why am i losing my words? Was a good example of that.
A guy we never met, comes on, great guest. We'll still be able to do that, obviously, via Zoom.
There are also some interviews that we do with the press junkets that don't always land. I think those are interesting, but we might lose out on a couple of those.
But like PFT said, i do think that because we're the number one sports podcast whenever people come to chicago they will come especially to our office and want to see that so it might be a little bit but i don't think it's going to be drastic enough that people are going to be like oh my god they can't get any guests and we'll throw this out there we we are going to travel still to get guests if we have to. Like, we've been talking about doing a week in L.A.
every year. Like, if we have big guests, a lot of our big guests we travel to, and we will still do that.
Is ABP going to make sure to have loud heating pipes in the new Chicago pod room? Yes, and I want to be next to a fire station. Yeah.
It's my only two requests that I asked him. As long as I have three requests for him, I want to have the worst pipes in America.
I want to be next to an ambulance. And then I would also like the Wi-Fi to never work.
Yes. So we've got the right man for the job.
I'm pretty sure these pipes are voice activated. Yes.
I'd agree. Max, are you excited to be behind the glass? Sure.
Max is going to be behind the glass. We're going to have glass.
Because they can edit it faster. That's pretty sick.
When they're actually... So I didn't know this.
Hank told me this. We've been doing this for seven years.
Is that true? Oh, you made this up? Hold up, let him cook. Wait, you made this up? Hold up, let him cook.
No, I don't think... I think you just misunderstood what I was saying.
Finish your thought, though, because I'm curious what your interpretation is. He said that when we finish recording, they have to take it all from these computers, and they can't edit it until they go back to their computers.
True or false? You said that to me. True.
That takes like five minutes. Oh, he made it seem like it was a big fucking deal.
No, no, no, no, no. The point was that we have memes, Evan, and Shane who are not in the room.
Oh. So they can listen live and make notes and write, that's a good clip, whatever, in real time.
I thought memes was just listening somehow on his computer right now. No, we record for an hour and then they listen.
BFT, did you think that? Memes comes in occasionally and he like references something that we talked about. I feel like that sneaky bitch is listening.
But like, yeah. No, on the weekends, he can go and listen in the control room.
Got it. So now we'll have everyone in the, like, we'll have everyone in the room and then Max and the boys will be behind the glass with Mike so they can still talk, but it'll be nice for them.
The show should get better for that. Yes.
It was a good idea in theory for us to put this fucking squat rack in here. I would say it's probably like we could have used the space better.
The nice thing about the new Chicago office is we'll have a squat rack in the office so we don't have to put it in our studio. I think we should have two squat racks.
I don't want to wait. There's so many times where I'll move back and be like, what the? Oh, fuck.
I forgot we have a gym in here. I don't want to wait and Nick is in the squat rack.
Yeah. And then I have to.
True. True.
But our new studio is going to be sick. Yeah.
It's going to be sick. My favorite days of Barstool were in HQ2 when everyone was always interacting with each other and there was drama captured on stool stool scenes is that part of the vision for chicago office and what was the main motivation for the move to chicago that is the that is it right there what they just said so that was also my favorite time covet happened the new york office a lot of people spread out it's not really popping like if it's it's us a lot of times and there's not a ton of people i mean there's people who come in and out but they don't come every day there's a lot of people come a couple times a week it's not consistent the first new york office was consistently a madhouse the chicago office is going to be pretty much the only requirement is you have to show up every day and so that will hopefully bring back some that je ne sais quoi.
Yeah, and I guess the thing about this move is there's a lot that we can say that we're going to do once we get there. We do have a lot of big plans.
But the fact that it's going to be a brand new place, brand new people interacting, there will be side projects and spinoffs and new series and all sorts of new stuff that we can't possibly predict right now

until we get out there and start mixing everybody out in that terrarium with each other and see what's clicking. But that person's point is exactly what I've thought, is that it's kind of – it hasn't died here, but it's definitely slowly petered out, and a lot of people are in – the space is just not good for it anymore i think covid it like we started coming in in the general like for probably a year or so it was basically like you know we don't want people we don't want people interacting at the office come to the office do your show and leave and that has just kind of stayed as like the people's routines right yeah we just kind of pretended that we weren't allowed to come into the office and are we sorry the other way we pretended that we were allowed to come into the office for a long time right we just came in but it was like man we probably shouldn't have all these people here so just come in and like do your show right and leave don't be like interacting but the madhouse is gonna happen there should there should be a daycare in the office that's a bad idea.
school sports um all right couple couple last ones um where did it go oh do you have any nerves moving cities and offices big step excited for you all moving socks yeah the act of moving socks i'm very excited yeah i can't wait i'm very excited i'm gonna play so much golf yeah there's a shitload of golf courses that you can drive. I mean, that's the other thing.
People can have cars, all this stuff. But the act of moving is the worst.
Like, I haven't thought about it yet, especially I'm going to have three kids I'm moving. That part, yes, I am going to hate so much.
I might just burn it all. Yeah, that's good.
Maybe like sign an interior design deal or something. What kind of interior design will just show up with a flamethrower? No, like just get rid of all my shit and get shit on the air.
Oh, I like that. I like that move.
Yeah. Like new wardrobe everything? Yeah.
New city, new you? Oh, fuck. Yeah.
That dude. You should do that.
Bring my TVs. Don't even bring them.
I got a big TV. I'm doing seven on my wall.
So looking at Chicago houses, a lot of them have the same type of format where the basement is just- What's the 133? The basement's just guy room. Yeah.
And I've been looking at every single basement and just imagining, because I've missed basements so much. I grew up with basements.
My friend, well, I didn't have one. My friends had basements.
They're the best places to hang out in the world. Yes.
Don't have them in Texas. The ground's too hard.
Don't have them in New York. I'm going to have the best basement of all time.
It's going to rule. It's going to be all my pent-up basement envy that I had as a child, not having one of my own.
I'm going to turn my basement into the best room in any house that i've ever been in yeah it's like a perfect place for a flight simulator think about this it's not gonna be enough room going going to having uh rooms in your home that you don't even go in yeah that's that doesn't happen in new york city yeah you use every single fucking piece of your house are you gonna have that one weird room in your house where you walk in and then you turn to the left and it's that room that nobody goes into? There's always that room. Fucking fuck that room.
That room sucks. That room sucks.
Like basically Thanksgiving, Christmas and like one other time a year. But it's not even a dining room.
Yeah. No, it's a room with cheese before.
Because it's like, oh, we shouldn't be watching TV right now. Let's all sit and have a conversation fuck conversation put on the tv that room is it's the room that your parents bring you into when they're telling you that they're getting a divorce yeah and it's never used besides that yes that's it that's it yeah we're very excited i'm sure there'll be more questions but yeah the big pieces that people should take away is september will hopefully be the new office opening.
The move will happen over the summer. Also, we've been talking.
I think what we're going to do. So we'll all have moved.
But I think we might do a back to our roots grit week and go through the Rust Belt and maybe bring our piles. That's how we do it.
We bring our piles on the RV. I was thinking about that.
Two things related to the pile. One is we're going to have to get rid of our piles before we leave somehow.
Two, do you think people right now are looking at our corner and already mentally staking claims on where they're going to sit? This studio is being taken by someone. They don't know yet.
I ask all the time. They don't know.
They don't know who's taking it? Give us a hint. I don't know.
What if we just lock the door when the last one leaves? We should. Leave it like this is a time capsule.
Yeah. Yeah, we should do a time capsule.
Museum. People can start.
We should do a time capsule before we leave New York. Yeah.
We should bury a box in Central in central park yeah and we should make it just filled with lies yeah about stuff that didn't happen yeah like congrats to the commanders and the bears won six superbowls yeah during the initial run of part of my shitload of predictions too yeah that like we like see we told you the astra or the rangers in in 2055 was gonna win the world series uh yeah let's do that time capsule time capsule there's a dude who who buried a beer in college we should keep the water machine back and and and and just like grabbed the shovel and just started digging it was like what the fuck are you doing it was just one one single bush light. That's awesome.
That dude's rock.

Somebody make sure to put a note down,

put in some sort of memory machine for us to do a time cap.

No, we're not leaving the lottery.

We're not only bringing the lottery ball.

I'm buying a bigger lottery ball machine

that you'll lose on that too.

We're going to have one that's featured in the office.

We should do a ball pit.

Yeah.

And all the balls have numbers on them. What about the green couch? Fuck that green couch.
Green couch we should. I mean, it's broken and never got fixed.
We should sell that. We should sell that for charity.
Yeah. People would buy it.
Yeah. For charity.
I almost matched, but we don't know how much that would sell for. A lot.
A lot. A lot, a lot.
What if we burn it? Yeah, you're right. You know what? Fuck those charities.

Fuck the kids.

Well, we burn it for charity.

Oh, okay.

Talk that one out.

We're going to burn it for charity.

Start burning it, and then the charity money comes in.

Yeah.

Okay.

Hank.

Yes.

Have you ever gotten the number on this?

Nope.

Okay.

So this is an interesting one. So I'll take a sip of this if you get it, and you'll take a sip of that if I get it.
Yeah. Should we add anyone else in here? Do you have my clothes? I ordered your Arizona merchandise at the end of last show.
Do you have it? You're such a bitch. Also, Venmo, I listened last show.

I was getting dragged for not giving the second half.

Venmo will not allow it.

Well, no, you didn't.

Yeah, I mean, you did the classic scam artist thing.

You sent half, being like the other half will come.

You got yourself a few days of grace.

I have tried to send it multiple times, and it's too much.

Venmo is not happy with me.

Oh, interesting.

That's how it's going. Because Roan, who you went with, sent it went with said it yeah well Roan's probably got a much bigger bank account than me so so you don't have the money I do have the money I do have the money well then that shouldn't be an issue you think Venmo checks the size of your account maybe I'm gonna try it right now there's no way you're gonna do it all right uh number six nine 18 I also did the research on the winners 17 Me, PFT, and Billy all have 4 Max, Big Cat, and Liam All got it once I think I have one on the computer So.
So many. I'll go 88 for Patrick Kane.

That was recent.

Remember, three of the last four have been a double number.

I'm going to go 22.

All right.

Can I change?

No.

All right.

What did you do?

No.

No.

No.

You can.

What would you go?

I won't say no.

What would you go?

No.

You can change.

You can change.

Officially?

Yeah.

Confirmed?

Yes. Confirmed.
Eight. 17.
I'll switch mine to 17. Big Cat.
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If seventeen hits, you have to drink both of our piss. Fuck you.
30. You're way off.
30. You're never gonna get it.
That was anti-stop. That actually was the scariest one we've ever done.
That was really dumb. Should we run it back? Yeah.
Counting? No. No.
Oh, we should do it for Friday's show. Oh, yeah.

True 69.

Yeah.

All right, we'll end this show.

Love you guys.

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