Lane Johnson, TJ Watt, NBA Trade Deadline + Super Bowl Preview & Picks

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Speaker 1 On today's Part of My Take, we have a two-fer for the people. We have Lane Johnson from the Philadelphia Eagles getting ready for Super Bowl 57.

Speaker 1 We also maybe get a little bit of intel on what they're going to be drinking on the sidelines, but great interview with Lane.

Speaker 1 And then we have one of the more unique interviews we've ever done on Part of My Take. TJ Watt, recurring guest.
We figured, let's make it a little interesting.

Speaker 1 Our good friend Jersey Jerry sat in the interview. He led most of the questions.
They were very, very funny. A super fan interviewing his idol while we moderated.
So that was very, very fun.

Speaker 1 We're going to do our favorite prop bets. We're going to talk about the big game.
Maybe a little KD to the Suns as the NBA tried to hijack Super Bowl week, which I didn't appreciate.

Speaker 1 And Firefest of the week to wrap us up, getting us ready for Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 1 let's go.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Friday, February 10th.
And boys, Super Bowl 57. We made it.

Speaker 2 It's been a long season. It has.
The longest NFL season ever, by days. Ever.

Speaker 2 I think we'd be remiss, though, if we didn't start out the show by congratulating Chris Paul and the Phoenix Suns for winning the 2023 NBA Championship. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 It's easy. Honestly, if you look at that team right now, the big three, we had the news that broke in the middle of the night, which what a rush for those of us that stayed up.

Speaker 2 Thank God we were on Mountain Time. Mountain Time's legit.

Speaker 2 They shipped KD out of town. He's a son.

Speaker 2 I feel like this is. He already was.
I feel like this has got to be his year. He knows his mom.
He's a son for sure. It's got to be his year.
He's a star, too.

Speaker 1 He's a star, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe it's his year.

Speaker 2 It's got to be. Maybe.
There's no way that they lose.

Speaker 1 So I was thinking about it because last night I was like, should I bet on the Suns now? And the price went crazy. It was like, I think they're like 5 to 1 or 6 to 1.

Speaker 1 And then I thought about it a little bit harder and I was like, wait. So the Suns are really good right now.
They traded away some really good players.

Speaker 1 So their bench players are, you know, their bench is not great. And they're going to rely on a 35-year-old guy who's been injured a lot since his Achilles and Chris Paul in the playoffs.
Yep.

Speaker 2 I don't see where this goes wrong.

Speaker 1 Hmm. I don't either.

Speaker 2 The only wrench in the system is that AJ Titties is pregnant, so she's probably not back to her old tricks.

Speaker 1 Well, when does the baby do?

Speaker 2 Actually, that's a good point. You probably know.

Speaker 2 Let's see, nine months ago.

Speaker 2 I think it's probably during the next couple months. So, yeah, she might be back in

Speaker 2 mid-season form. She'll be back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the trade deadline, the NBA trade deadline, did their best to hijack Super Bowl week, which that's fine.

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 1 they got to get what they get, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we had Kevin Durant. We obviously had the Kyrie.
We had Kevin Durant going to the Suns.

Speaker 1 The Sixers made a move. Who else made moves? There's a couple other, oh, Pat Beverly going to the Magic, Russell Westbrook going to the Jazz.

Speaker 2 It's probably his desired destination, right? Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's got to hurt. We also,

Speaker 1 because we taped early on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 Mike Conley going to the Timberwolves.

Speaker 1 Mike Conley going to the Timberwolves, D'Andrel Russell going to the Lakers. So a lot of moves back and forth.
Feels like wide open league.

Speaker 1 Everyone's taking a shot in the Western Conference.

Speaker 1 We obviously taped early on Tuesday. We talked about LeBron breaking his record.
We should mention he broke it in a loss to the Thunder.

Speaker 1 And also we had anthony davis uh proudly i i i i respect him standing up to lebron james and not uh sitting there and and showing no emotion when lebron broke the record and you might be like wait why why would he do that well because it was like 24 hours before that lebron tried to trade anthony davis for kevin durant yep so yeah it might backfire a little bit when you want to trade everyone on your team uh although anthony davis now that i'm thinking about it he should have known that could have happened because he literally got traded to the Lakers when LeBron tried to trade his entire team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is like you got cheated on.

Speaker 2 If you start a relationship with somebody that's in a relationship, don't be surprised when they cheat on you later. Yes.
So yeah, Anthony, he sat on the bench.

Speaker 2 He did stand up for the ceremony when they gave the ball to LeBron. And in a really poignant quote, it was touching LeBron James with the microphone.

Speaker 2 Fuck, man. Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 Fucking a man. That's actually cool.

Speaker 2 That's probably the coolest thing he's ever said.

Speaker 1 He's an assist. He's fucking a a man.

Speaker 2 Wait, fuck men. Thank you guys, is what he said.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of trade action, though. I feel like every team made at least a deal.
Did the Celtics do anything?

Speaker 6 No, they picked up one guy, but nothing crazy.

Speaker 2 Blake of the Year, Blake Griffin, had a great quote after the game. He made, what, three threes?

Speaker 1 He had a great game, man.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he had a great game, made three threes.

Speaker 2 The Sixers made zero adjustments to counteract for Blake's long-range shooting.

Speaker 2 And he said, no disrespect, but, you know, I thought that they were going to maybe make some adjustments, start to guard me.

Speaker 2 But they didn't make any adjustments. No disrespect, though.
Yeah. That was great.
When you book into statement when it's doubled, no disrespects.

Speaker 2 That's actually the most disrespect that you can give to somebody.

Speaker 1 And on the bottom line, it said Blake Griffin, aka Steph Curry, which is great.

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was awesome. Also, Mike Muscala.

Speaker 6 What? Mike Muscala. Yeah.
Sounds like a baseball player.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We had Josh Hartz going to meet up with Jalen Brunson, Villanova Love in New York. Yeah, it feels like there were so many trades.

Speaker 6 It's good when there's an exciting trade deadline. Yes.

Speaker 6 NFL, nothing ever happens. Yeah.
MLB, sometimes it's crazy, sometimes it's not. NBA, I feel like, usually isn't as nuts as it was.

Speaker 2 I think outside of the playoffs, the NBA trade deadline is the best week of the NBA calendar. Free agency.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, embrace debate.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 There was a lot of drama this year, Jake.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yeah, this year maybe, but I'd say overall.

Speaker 1 I also appreciate the Nets doing, let's see if we can get the most amount of picks.

Speaker 1 I think the trade that that they made today after the Kevin Durant trade, I think they got five second round picks, which is, that's far too many second round picks to have. You don't.

Speaker 1 Those are just future trades.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, you don't, those are, yeah, just toss-ins. They're like gift bags for future trades.

Speaker 2 Five second-round picks. You might as well be like, here, here's nothing.
It's, you know, here's the most nothing that we could possibly give you.

Speaker 1 It's like when you get someone a present, you're like, was this enough? Let me just throw in like a gift card. Yeah, or like an edible arrangement.

Speaker 2 Or you put it in a giant bag that's stuffed with tissue paper yeah right that's kind of what it was but jay crowd i think we even said on part of my take on wednesday what if something happens where jay crowder gets moved in a kevin durant deal so i think we might have called that before it happens are we um are we shams guys or are we wojbomb guys

Speaker 1 because i feel like shams had the kd news right shams has everything yeah yeah it's shams shams yeah shams and yeah well i think we're shams guys i think we're woached

Speaker 5 news broke down the trade numbers woach had 11 Sham said 10.

Speaker 1 Oh, but

Speaker 1 that's the most significant one. Yeah.
That one, the KD and Sham had Kyrie, too. Yeah, well, then that's

Speaker 1 quantity. Yeah, that's, I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 If you have KD and Kyrie trades on your resume, I don't care that Woach got like Jacob Podle or whatever he got traded on. Jacob Pertle.

Speaker 5 Yeah. It's Jakob Pertil.

Speaker 1 Jakob. No, I said Jacob Podle.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's how you say his name? Either way, he got traded somewhere. Where did he get traded to?

Speaker 2 Who cares? Siberia.

Speaker 2 yeah yeah oh i think the raptors yeah the raptors got him you know raptors watch out for the raptors yeah you know what the saddest news is i think that was like right after the kd trade happened yeah and woge knew he got beat so he's like fuck i got to empty the chamber and he just just floods the timeline with inconsequential stuff yeah he's like okay at least i'm on the scoreboard right now they got to be rolling around during this week with probably six seven cell phones it's got to be just an abundance of batteries going nuts because you got to have you have your charge game on point who did the nets who did the nets get five second round picks for i love just jay crowder was jay crowd or jay crowder that's yeah that's brutal to have that be your trade value yep because it doesn't matter they could have done what's the difference between five second round picks and 15 second round picks there's none it's like shrootbox yeah it's just like here you just take take you know what it's actually better we can probably fire half of our scouting department well if i was yeah if i was in nba gm i would not want that's just a lot of work that you have to do no you just kind of paperwork you have to sift through a lot of film you have to watch for a second round guy it's like no if it's not if it's not a top 15 pick, I don't want it.

Speaker 1 No, if you have five second-round picks, that means that you now have to open up an office in Estonia. Yeah.
Like, you're going to have to just go and find those guys overseas.

Speaker 2 I would say if you have five second-round picks, all that means is that you got fleeced in a previous trade. Right.
And that's what you have.

Speaker 2 But Jay Crowder, I think, is the very definition of a nice piece to have. He's a good piece.
On a good team, Jay Crowder is a guy that you want. It's like him, Mike Conley, two very good piece guys.

Speaker 6 I think Mike Conley is better than a piece guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you are high. You do overrate Jay Crowder.
I like Jay Crowder.

Speaker 1 Jay Crowder's a quintessential, like he'll hit two threes and then he'll take 10 more.

Speaker 2 I think it's the hair. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The hair makes every, when you see a dude with long hair like that, that's built like a brick shithouse like he is, when that dude has a stroke from three, I will automatically overvalue.

Speaker 2 I'm like, this guy can do it all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he does. He does have sick hair.

Speaker 1 All right, so yeah, NBA trade deadline came and went. Maybe we'll have Rossillo on in a couple weeks.
He can cry about how Chris Paul. If Chris Paul doesn't win it now, now,

Speaker 1 this is a legacy year for Rosillo and his son.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is it. This is, you said it right.
It's a legacy season now for Chris Paul, but I honestly don't see a way that he loses.

Speaker 1 It also was funny that after

Speaker 1 the Kyrie like dust settled and everyone tried to figure out what deals were offered, the Suns did offer Chris Paul for Kyrie. So that means that

Speaker 1 Chris Paul and Kyrie, like that has to kill Rosillo because he does not like Kyrie. No.
He loves Chris Paul like a son.

Speaker 2 So now I think if the season ended today, which would be shocking if that happened, but

Speaker 2 I think the Suns and the Mavericks would play in the first round of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 So I need that. Yeah.
I need that so badly.

Speaker 1 Because you know, too, that they'll like do like a long embrace. And people are like, are they going to team up again? Okay, so Kyrie to the Suns?

Speaker 2 I've been thinking about Kyrie because you know how you've said like he is your favorite basketball player's favorite basketball player?

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 2 I think it's just a matter of appreciating Kyrie from a distance is awesome.

Speaker 2 But once you get in the same room with him, when you have to share hotels with him, when you have to be on the bus all the time with Kyrie, even then.

Speaker 2 When you're with him day after day, I think that's when it starts to grade on you. But like from across the league, you can watch and be like, yeah, that dude rocks.

Speaker 1 But even then, like Nick Claxton came out and said that Kyrie is his favorite teammate he's ever had. I think he just, I think guys just like him.

Speaker 1 And it's just a disconnect with the media where they don't understand that NBA locker rooms like Kyrie. And yes, he is.

Speaker 1 If you asked any basketball player over 6'7, and you're like, what would you like? If you could pick anyone's game, they'd be like, yeah, I wish I was Kyrie. And I didn't have to like bang down low.

Speaker 1 I could just be awesome with dribbling and shooting and finishing at the rim.

Speaker 2 But I think if you asked other teammates that he played with, you'd probably get a lot of people being like, I hate that guy.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 6 I mean, Tatum and Jalen Brown love him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
No, that's the crazy part. I think there's like a major, major disconnect where everyone in sports media is like, how could you ever want to be teammates with Kyrie?

Speaker 1 And then everyone he plays with is like, We love Kyrie.

Speaker 1 So he must be a cool dude to hang out with.

Speaker 2 If I was his teammate, I wouldn't like him.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm just going to say that.
Okay. All right.
But until you met him, then you'd probably be like, this guy's cool.

Speaker 2 He would take all my shots. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's, I mean, it is like almost universal. I don't,

Speaker 1 I can't remember. Like, is there anyone been very outspokenly anti-Kyrie who's played with him?

Speaker 1 Maybe a couple guys, but it's, it is very overwhelming, like guys like Kyrie.

Speaker 1 And then everyone sits in media and is like, how could you like this guy? I don't know, dude. We're not NBA players.
We're the best players in the world. Yeah,

Speaker 1 and we're not in that locker room, so we have no fucking clue.

Speaker 2 I would like to congratulate the Nets, though, on assembling the biggest bust of any dream team ever. I think this, you know, Cool Throne.
Twice.

Speaker 2 That Eagles team, where Vince Young came out and said, we're the dream team right now. That's usually the kiss of death.

Speaker 2 The Nets have now done it twice, and somehow they managed to surpass their last big blow-up. Yes.
There's just something with that organization. I don't know.

Speaker 2 They did a bad job of putting the weirdest players together in a locker room and expecting them to get along. Although now it's Ben Simmons' team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this time it's actually better than the last time because last time they traded for their dream team. This time they just got them to sign with them.
So they actually have picks and talent.

Speaker 1 They have pretty much every wing player in the NBA now. They are going to, we're going to find out, you know, like the old, why don't they build the whole plane out of the black box? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, why don't they build an entire NBA team out of wing players? We'll find out.

Speaker 2 It's Joe Harris season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll find out.

Speaker 2 It would be cool, though, if, so they've got all those second-round picks. All you have to do is just hit on one Euro guy.
Yeah. You just have to go out and get your, get your Giannis.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Giannis was a first-round pick, but was he?

Speaker 2 Yeah. I thought he was second-round.
Yeah. Yeah.
But that's. Oh, I was thinking about Jokic.
Yeah. Get your Jokic.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Get a Yokic.

Speaker 2 It's very easy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Super Bowl 57.

Speaker 1 Let's go, boys. Let's start with, should we start with game predictions or what we think is going to happen? Then we can talk about our props.

Speaker 2 I got birds by six. Okay.

Speaker 1 So the thing that's making me most nervous, and this is a thought, we have to get all the bad thoughts out.

Speaker 1 Is there a world in five years' time

Speaker 1 where we're sitting at a bar and we're saying the sentence, remember when Patrick Mahomes was an underdog to Jalen Hurts in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 That was fucking stupid. Well,

Speaker 1 that is my worst nightmare, and that's just been ringing around in my stupid, dumb dog brain.

Speaker 2 I have seen this take floating around out there. It's bubbling online.
This is how you can tell that we're getting just too far into Super Bowl media week and we need the game to happen.

Speaker 2 Somebody said, Yeah, Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback, but if you're looking at all the best traits in a quarterback to have, you want a guy like Jalen Hurts instead of like Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 Nice.

Speaker 2 Which is, I mean, now we're in some galaxy brain level shit where we've officially, we've scraped the bottom of our brains and we've really, we've eaten all the meat off the bone that is this Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 If we're getting to the point where we're saying, yeah, Jalen Hurts, rather have him on my team than Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 It's the thing that, you know, Chiefs fans get upset us about when they're like, you don't talk enough about Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 What else is there to talk about besides that he's the best quarterback in the NFL? Yeah. He is the best quarterback in the NFL.
It's It's not a debate. It's a fact.

Speaker 1 And that is what scares me the most about Sunday.

Speaker 2 And I love watching him play. He's a joy to watch play quarterback.
When he's locked in, he's awesome. But I keep just going back to the guy off.
I just keep having like a room off in my brain.

Speaker 2 And the only room is quarterback and tight end that I think favors the Chiefs. So I'm going to roll with the birds.

Speaker 1 So here's some. So that thought is in my brain.
I have things that counteract that thought. The guy off, like all the positions, trench warfare.

Speaker 1 I actually, I went to Burt Kreischer's show, uh, comedy show, and there was the chief, the whole Chiefs' offensive line was there, and I had a few beers. I might have started barking a little.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's good or bad, but I was like, there's some dogs coming after you, and they're like, What are you talking about, dude?

Speaker 1 Like, we're trying to enjoy a comedy show, and I was like, Yeah. And I also asked them if Matt Nagy was a creep, and they're like, he's our coach.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, so that was a swing and a miss, 0 for 2 for me.

Speaker 2 Well, wait, so what you're saying is that the Chiefs' offensive line was out partying.

Speaker 1 They were all triple. They were all drinking seltzers.
I checked. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 I was upset because I was like, why don't you have a beer?

Speaker 2 Oh, no, like, what kind of self-you mean alcoholic seltzers?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, unfortunately. They were, and they all looked very sober.
Okay, in that case, it hurt.

Speaker 2 In that case, I'm just going to say they're distracted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but dogs are coming.

Speaker 2 They're distracted this week. And so you didn't see any Eagles at that game, right? They're studying the playbook.

Speaker 1 Exactly. But it is also just a true testament to how stupid alcohol can make your brain feel where I walked up to the Chiefs' offensive line in the green room after, and I was like, Eagles coming.

Speaker 1 And they're just like, who the fuck are you, dude? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm feeling confident in the Eagles because we know. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 An idiot.

Speaker 6 No, like, no, like, we know the Eagles are coming.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. But no, but I was like, I think I might have even barked a little, which is embarrassing to think back to.

Speaker 2 There's been an online hoax going around, too. The script.
The script

Speaker 2 has been put out there according to an anonymous Twitter account that claims that they read it on Pro Football Reference. Okay.
So this went mega viral.

Speaker 2 It said that the game, they had the game score and the entire game page had been updated on Pro Football Reference. And it said the final score is going to be Eagles 37, Chiefs 34.
Now,

Speaker 2 a lot of people are saying that it's just a manipulated Photoshop screenshot, but it went super viral to the point where Vegas was taking so many bets on the exact score, 37 to 34, it went from plus 2,500 all the way down, excuse me, went all the way from plus 8,000 down to plus 2,500 because so many dumbasses out there thought that this was a legit screenshot.

Speaker 1 I mean, that would be an

Speaker 1 instant passive future. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, can you imagine if that happened?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be incredible. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 offensive, defensive line advantages for the Eagles are, I won't say significant because the Chiefs' defensive line has some fucking really, really good players, but I think that's like like the equalizer with the Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 2 There is one level of

Speaker 2 disrespect, though, that I think could be motivating.

Speaker 2 I think we've gotten to the point where we've talked so much about how much better that Eagles' defensive line is than the Chiefs' offensive line, that the Chiefs' offensive line might go out there and have like the game of their life.

Speaker 1 Because that's all you've heard, right? And they've had like random dudes going up to them at comedy shows and barking at them.

Speaker 2 Well, people play the disrespect card a lot, and I think they overuse it all the time. In this case, it probably, if you're a Chiefs' offensive lineman, you're probably especially getting barked at.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you've that probably might be the tipping point where it's like, hey, they pay us to play football, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I might have buried myself. We're pretty good.
That's a fact. That's a fact.

Speaker 2 You can't bark at a man and expect him not to bite.

Speaker 1 Let me put a little bit of context. Orlando Brown Jr.
did come up to me and say, what's up? I think he's a listener, and there's a couple listeners on the Chiefs' offensive line.

Speaker 1 So it wasn't totally unsolicited. Okay.
Once they knew who I was, I was like, you know what? Now I'm going to start barking.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying that they do feel like they're the most disrespected. I agree.

Speaker 1 All right, so I have a couple other numbers that help push down the negative thoughts. First one, Mahomes is wearing a white uniform for the first time in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Can he win with the road uniform?

Speaker 2 We don't know.

Speaker 1 We don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't think so. But also, counterpoint, I think the white uniforms in like the last 26 years, 28 years,

Speaker 2 11 and 17, I believe, is the stat.

Speaker 1 Wait, it's 11 and 17. So that's good.

Speaker 2 It's one.

Speaker 2 It's one way or the other. I forget if it's a good thing or a bad.

Speaker 1 11 and 17, that would be good.

Speaker 2 White uniforms. No, white uniforms win.

Speaker 1 So it's 17 and 11. 17 and 11.
Yeah. Okay, so that's bad.
Either way, whatever. Okay, that's just noise.

Speaker 1 I'm going to use selective choice of noise. That's noise.
That's irrelevant. Patrick Mahomes also

Speaker 1 has 56 interceptions in his career. What Super Bowl is this?

Speaker 2 57.

Speaker 1 He might take six at the end.

Speaker 2 What a walk-off that would be.

Speaker 6 Two touchdowns, four interceptions in his career in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 2 Hank. Patrick Mahomes can't win the big one.

Speaker 1 Hank, what's that?

Speaker 6 No, I know. Obviously, everyone's talking about Brady, and they put that setup, and it's like, this is the guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, so that's where we came from.

Speaker 1 The other one that I had was

Speaker 1 in this Super Bowl, it'll be the seventh time

Speaker 1 the passing leader, so passing yards leader, is in the Super Bowl, and they are 0-6.

Speaker 1 So Tom Brady in 2017, Peyton Manning in 2013, the Denver-Seattle Super Bowl, Tom Brady in 2007 against the Giants, Rich Gannon against the Bucs, Kurt Warner against the Patriots, and Dan Marino against the Niners.

Speaker 1 So the quarterback who's had the most passing yards in that season has not won the Super Bowl yet.

Speaker 2 Interesting. Interesting.
And some people are pointing to the fact that Chiefs a Holoc may have been released from prison on bail.

Speaker 1 Billy's pointing that out.

Speaker 2 You say that would favor the Chiefs because their biggest Super fan is out of prison. I think it's the other way around.

Speaker 2 I think that if they want any chance in this, they were going to use that to like, we have to free Chiefs the Holoc by winning his future for him. That way he'll be able to post bail.

Speaker 2 But no, no, I think that actually having Chiefs of Holoc out is going to be a detriment to the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 That was the first we had heard from Billy all week. He's like, hey, do you guys want to interview Chiefs Haholick?

Speaker 1 And I was like, good thought, but I'd really only want to ask about how he robbed banks. And I'd assume if he's out on bail, he's probably not going to talk about it.

Speaker 2 Well, his lawyer would probably strongly advise him not to talk about the case. But on the other hand, like, I get strong, like, I will defend myself in court vibes from Chiefsaholic.

Speaker 2 Hopefully in the entire wolf uniform.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true, true. So Billy might interview him himself, and we'll put that on the part of my take YouTube.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'm.

Speaker 2 What a meeting of the minds that will be. It's like the Frost Nixon of our generation.

Speaker 1 So I'm obviously Eagles. I think it's going to be a very tight game.
I think there's not going to be many moments where it feels

Speaker 1 like the Eagles are safe, Max, but I'm going Eagles. Okay.
Which isn't a surprise to anyone. Jake, what do you think? You'd have to give us a game prediction.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, I'm rooting for you to win. I want you to win.

Speaker 5 And I've been so bad this year, so I want to pick the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Okay, yes, do it. Yeah, you're wearing red right now.
Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 Chiefs. Woo-hoo.
Okay, nice. Nice.
There we go.

Speaker 6 Cultural appropriation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what was that woo-hoo? Like, let's go.

Speaker 1 Chiefs. Why'd you put your hand over your mouth when we did it? No.

Speaker 1 32-26.

Speaker 2 I couldn't help but notice that your legs are crossed right now.

Speaker 5 32.26 to Origami. It'd be a bummer if I ended this last place here with another loss.

Speaker 1 Wait, so what's the score of me bet?

Speaker 5 32.26. Oh, yeah, that's my favorite prop.
I'm sure we'll get to that, but plus 1,500 in the Barcelona Sports.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for a score of me for you.

Speaker 5 Thank you. I'm rooting for the Eagles for you.
But I picked the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice, nice, nice.

Speaker 1 Hank. Yes.

Speaker 1 We all want to know.

Speaker 6 I will not be betting the outcome of the game before the game. This is not trolling.
I'll tell you this right now. I will be betting whoever goes down early.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's consistent with

Speaker 1 the live. It's not trolling.

Speaker 2 Hank wants to see the plus sign.

Speaker 6 My official prediction, though, of who I think is going to win is the Eagles.

Speaker 6 Okay. But I'm not going to.

Speaker 1 And what would that do to you?

Speaker 6 That would make me happy because you're happy. And Max is happy.

Speaker 1 And PFT. And PFT.
Yeah, I mean, I've got it.

Speaker 1 It's the biggest bet of my life.

Speaker 6 I also, I did put a future in

Speaker 1 on the Cowboys or the Lead Balls. Oh, he put one on the Eagles.

Speaker 5 $3. That's not a future.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, future. Yeah, No, the game's coming up in the future.

Speaker 1 Technically, every bet is a future. Yeah.
Unless it's live. It's live, yeah.
Max, you want to give some thoughts before you go in for war?

Speaker 1 Tell us, too, like, what your Sunday is going to look like.

Speaker 1 What's the plan?

Speaker 1 We might, I think what we might do is if we can figure out

Speaker 6 we need to get him like three C4s before the game.

Speaker 1 Can we go live on the part and might take YouTube from our phones or no?

Speaker 1 No. That's not the YouTube.

Speaker 6 Instagram.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. So we'll, we'll, whatever we do,

Speaker 1 we might make a quick video. We might do a live Instagram.

Speaker 1 But Sunday morning, we'll figure out a way that Max PFT and I will do like a little two-minute, just like, how you feeling, Max, a day, you know, before the game.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we can do an Instagram live and then just post it on the feed after.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. So we'll make sure that you can hear from Max when it's like go time.
But how you feeling right now looks like you're

Speaker 1 sweating. Looks like you're about to cry.

Speaker 10 No, no.

Speaker 1 Sweating profusely.

Speaker 10 The ticket drop hurt.

Speaker 1 Don't worry about that. That didn't That didn't matter.
That's not

Speaker 1 that. It's loser mentality.
It's not loser mentality. But you know, why are you afraid to lose? It's a free time.
You're not afraid of losing.

Speaker 2 You are because you're thinking about the cost difference.

Speaker 6 You're already thinking about paying them the money back, which would imply that they lose it.

Speaker 10 No, well, that's, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 10 You saying that I'm not going to be comfortable. Well, I'm not going to be.
We'll be up three scores and I still won't be comfortable. But

Speaker 10 I'm thinking about what's going to go on through my body if it's a three-score game or a three-point game in the fourth quarter. And like, I might, I, like, might actually pass out.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Your body might just like go into fight or flight mode because

Speaker 1 like a possum just knock you out.

Speaker 10 The difference is, like, in five years ago when we beat the Patriots, it was a sort of game where it was like, we're happy to be here. We have a backup quarterback.

Speaker 10 We're on a great run. We're going against Tom Brady, the best quarterback of all time.

Speaker 10 And

Speaker 10 it was almost like, this is fun.

Speaker 10 Let's just go into this.

Speaker 10 Hopefully we have a good game. We don't get blown out and it's like a fun night.
Now it's like

Speaker 2 we have to win this game.

Speaker 10 We're losing a lot of guys in the offseason.

Speaker 10 We got to start paying Jalen Hurst.

Speaker 2 We got picks though.

Speaker 10 We do have picks, but it's like you don't get this opportunity often and this is the best team that we could possibly put together right now.

Speaker 1 And you got to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 10 And it's like all starting to hit me right now.

Speaker 1 Two in five years is significant. Like, that's the Eagles start getting remembered as like, hey, they were fucking there for a stretch.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, no. And then if you get one, and then you can start to get more.

Speaker 1 Title Town.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, well, two and five years would be, you're knocking on a dynasty doorstep right there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You probably need four and seven years.

Speaker 2 I give you four and

Speaker 2 four and eight years to me would qualify as a dynasty.

Speaker 1 That's the Warriors, I think.

Speaker 2 Four and nine is a nice little run.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 2 it wouldn't be absurd for you to say title town unless all of your teams kept losing in the finals.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs are the team that's really playing for the fight.

Speaker 10 I'm also very worried about that.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 5 we can't keep losing in the finals.

Speaker 2 So, I'm curious to know,

Speaker 1 as a fan,

Speaker 1 doing the Max sweep.

Speaker 2 If you do the Philly sweep and you just, what if the Sixers make it to the finals, they lose?

Speaker 10 That would be fine because we'd beat the Celtics.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But from your

Speaker 1 progressive song,

Speaker 2 If you're going to the game as a fan, the Super Bowl is a place where it's like, it's more corporate. It's not as rowdy as the Link.

Speaker 2 It's also not as rowdy as Arrowhead, but you have fans that might not know whether to stand up, get super loud.

Speaker 2 What's your game plan going to be like as an Eagles fan?

Speaker 10 I'm going to make sure that.

Speaker 6 Also, bad sports sound. The tickets are dropping.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are significantly. Stop talking about that.

Speaker 1 It went from your tickets are $6,000.

Speaker 1 You could get in for $3,000 right now.

Speaker 10 That's just not true.

Speaker 10 We just read the number.

Speaker 1 It was four.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 by the time people are listening to this, it'll be three grand. They'll be giving away for free.
I'd like you to shut up.

Speaker 1 Wait, what were we just talking about? Yeah, wait.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like crowd noise.

Speaker 2 Are you going to be like full Philly?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 What are you wearing?

Speaker 10 I could be wearing this sweatshirt.

Speaker 1 No, you can't wear white. You got to wear green.

Speaker 10 I have this also in green. Okay.

Speaker 1 You have to wear green.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because the Chiefs are wearing white.

Speaker 10 That's true. I'll be wearing green.
I'll be wearing this, but like an opposite. You can also buy this at the Barcelona store.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 Are you going to wear the pants?

Speaker 10 No, I'm not going to wear the pants.

Speaker 1 What if I

Speaker 1 know it's not? I thought about it, but like, what if we go? I mean, if he goes, I want you to wear those.

Speaker 10 I can't be wearing those out.

Speaker 1 I would wear the pants there.

Speaker 2 They would be like, we don't technically have a dress code here, but those aren't coming.

Speaker 1 No, no. If he wears the pants, it would be great because people are like, how could he afford Super Bowl tickets? And the answer could possibly be, he can't.
well

Speaker 2 those those pants would be i could see somebody that's like literally homeless wearing them or then somebody that's like mega mega rich i don't give a fuck what i look like wearing them they're so comfortable they're great pants okay so back to the game yeah so so you're gonna be full filly you're gonna be screaming the entire time maybe hit a child are you gonna stand up on defense

Speaker 10 I don't, I don't know. I can't be thinking.
All I have to be worrying about is what's going on.

Speaker 1 No, you got to game plan this shit, Max. You can't be thinking about whether or not you're going to be able to do it.
You're going to the game unprepared.

Speaker 10 I'm going to be sitting. I can't be worried about the people around me.
I can be worried about me. I can be worried about Roan.
I can be worried about memes.

Speaker 10 I can be worried about my crew being into the game, focused on what we need to do, and it's come home with Super Bowl 57.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Come home with Speaker. I don't even know what I just was doing there.

Speaker 1 No, it was a nice pump-up. Otherwise, you'll be sitting on that couch crying to me on Sunday.

Speaker 6 It would be so bad.

Speaker 1 Oh, Hank is now rooting for that.

Speaker 6 I think the AWLs are too, let's be honest.

Speaker 1 No, no, I don't think so. Me and Hank.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they are. Yeah, they definitely are.
100%.

Speaker 1 I mean, they rooted against you in every. I mean, they rooted against us in every bigger.

Speaker 6 From a content perspective, again, that's what your bet actually complicates it because it's

Speaker 1 not.

Speaker 6 And I love Future. I love a good value.
You got great value. I don't want to see you lose 200K, so that will make it worse, but the loss would be so sweet.
Damn it.

Speaker 1 So sweet. I mean, I know.
Listen, because it is a double loss. It's Max and me.
And the AWLs are sickos. They're perverts and they want to see pain.
That's what they want to see.

Speaker 1 It would be so much pain.

Speaker 1 Okay, you got ready to be good. You're ready to go, Max.

Speaker 1 We're good.

Speaker 1 I'm on, Max. We're good.

Speaker 1 Also, make sure you're following Pardon My Take, Twitter, and Instagram. Memes is going.
He's going to be documenting the whole game. We'll have it for PM TV as well.

Speaker 1 But live updates will be, memes will be on top of all of that. So, yeah.

Speaker 2 What makes me a little bit nervous is I could definitely see a world.

Speaker 2 Max comes back. He's crying.
And Jake won his Super Bowl bet, and he reluctantly shakes his hand.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, I really

Speaker 1 couldn't score, Gammy.

Speaker 1 I really, I really

Speaker 2 would be like, I'm really sorry that I beat you.

Speaker 5 That would be just classic, Jake.

Speaker 6 If the game is tied in the fourth quarter, who would you rather be?

Speaker 1 What's the score?

Speaker 6 21-21.

Speaker 1 Chiefs.

Speaker 2 Too much time for Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 If you said 17-17, I would have said Eagles. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. 21 implies we've had some touchdowns.

Speaker 1 We've got 20 points.

Speaker 1 I said, yes, there's a potential for a live hedge, but

Speaker 1 it's probably not going to happen.

Speaker 6 Like 14 plus points.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like if the Eagles go up 10-0 and it's like I'm sitting there and it's looking like it's Chiefs plus 4-50, I might just be like, yeah, just a little bit.

Speaker 1 But I'm going to be sitting next to PFT, so I'll tell them it's not going to be, there's no other hedges. There's no other hedges.
All right, favorite props?

Speaker 1 I got some hot ones.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I got a couple, too.

Speaker 1 I got some real hot ones.

Speaker 2 Hank and I are going to go head to head on one, it sounds like. I put him on this bet earlier today in classic Hank fashion.
He took my bet and he's just doing the exact opposite.

Speaker 2 It's not a troll, though. I actually believe Hank when he says that he's not trolling on this.
He would never troll.

Speaker 1 Never.

Speaker 2 But I saw this bet pop up on the Barcelon Sports book.

Speaker 2 No doinks.

Speaker 2 I'm taking no doinks.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing no doink. The fuel goal

Speaker 2 or an extra point.

Speaker 2 If there's a doink, it pays out. What, Hank?

Speaker 2 Plus 410, 420. If there is a doink.
If there is a doink, I'm no doinks, so I'm loading up, and I think it's minus 540 on the Barcelona Sportsbook. I'm going to put a shitload of money on no doinks.

Speaker 2 540? And it's going to be.

Speaker 1 Oh, you got to know doinks. It's going to be.

Speaker 1 No, no, it's going to be.

Speaker 6 I was like, that's a great bet.

Speaker 1 But then I looked at it.

Speaker 2 It's going to be torture. It's going to be so much torture on every single attempt for me.

Speaker 2 Because I put myself in the mindset, like rooting for a doink, that's fun, but just the sheer terror that goes through your brain as every kick is in the air, is it going towards the upright?

Speaker 2 Is it not?

Speaker 2 That's the edge of the knife that I want to be living on for this Super Bowl. So I'm going, it's not a good bet.
I want to preface it by saying it's a terrible bet, but I love it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 No doinks. Next one.

Speaker 2 Over three and a half fuel goals. So this is the bet that you should have been following all year long.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of doinks.

Speaker 2 Since week four in primetime games, oh, I realize since week four in primetime games, I think it was hitting at something like 78%

Speaker 2 on the season. And it's it's always like, I think an average of plus 125.
So that's single-handedly gotten me through the season on the plus side. It's just hammering that shit.

Speaker 2 The gremlin play over three and a half field goals. And then I love this one.

Speaker 2 Offensive lineman touchdown, yes.

Speaker 2 And it's plus 2,000. It's fun to root for, but also I feel like in the red zone, the Chiefs get creative.

Speaker 7 True.

Speaker 2 And they've had all sorts of weird plays. They haven't really featured an offensive lineman recently.
They've probably been saving that one. Andrew Reid loves his big guys.

Speaker 2 And then on the other side, I feel like Siriani, in like a tribute to Philly lore,

Speaker 2 probably has a Philly special type play drawn up, some sort of gadget play in the red zone that he's going to try to run.

Speaker 2 And I know it's not a guarantee that it would go to a lineman, but I think that bumps it up enough in my brain where I'm like, okay,

Speaker 2 it's more probable than not that if he runs a weird play like that, it could be a tackle that catches him.

Speaker 1 So along those same lines, one of my favorite props, I feel like I bet at every Super Bowl because it's like, it's the Super Bowl, hold nothing back.

Speaker 1 Total players to attempt a pass over two and a half plus 130.

Speaker 1 And you have the added bonus this year of both quarterbacks being a little dinged up.

Speaker 1 So that, I mean, there's got to be a trick play. There's got to be a trick play.

Speaker 1 I also have a game to be tied after 0-0. Yeah.
Yes, minus 125, a little juice, but I like that one because I think it's going to be a close game.

Speaker 1 I also,

Speaker 1 I'm obviously going to bet Tails. Tails Tails statistically is 6-3 on a 6-3 against the spread record right now in the Super Bowl.
Don't go past that history because just don't.

Speaker 2 That's a heater.

Speaker 2 In the last decade, it's been an awesome game.

Speaker 1 And we had heads last year, so it kind of cooled off a little bit.

Speaker 2 Now we're back. We're due.
We're back.

Speaker 1 And then maybe my favorite one, which is,

Speaker 1 again, along the lines of I think it's going to be a close game, either team to score with less than two minutes left in the fourth quarter, yes, minus 106. Okay.

Speaker 2 I like that one.

Speaker 1 Under the two minutes, you're just rooting, you know, it's basically you're rooting for a good game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because if there's a score, I guess there could be a garbage time touchdown, but a score in the last two minutes, you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, those tie bets, because I like to bet, I like to sprinkle a little bit on a tie game at halftime because it's usually like plus 1,100. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I just feel like when we watch football, ties happen all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Score's always tied. Yes.
So why not? Like, it seems like you're stealing with these odds.

Speaker 1 Yes. Hank, do you have any others?

Speaker 6 I'm going to go hammer on to be a doink.

Speaker 2 Fuck you.

Speaker 6 I also like this one. It's the Barcelona sports work.
We all just kind of learned about this. There to be an octopus plus 1150.
I'm going, yes.

Speaker 6 An octopus is a player scoring a touchdown and then scoring the next play two-point conversion.

Speaker 2 I've never heard of that term before. I feel like somebody's pulling our legs.

Speaker 1 We don't know the ball, I guess.

Speaker 6 2019. No, it's 2019.
It's like a new.

Speaker 1 That's a great, great term.

Speaker 5 I thought they meant like someone throwing an octopus on the field.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know if they're going to be.

Speaker 1 He was like, what's this octopus?

Speaker 2 If it's a Red Wings game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, like, I don't know.
Yeah. I have a good one.

Speaker 1 Do you have any others?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I have a good one. Scoregami, yes.
And time final play of game is completed. 10.14, 59 seconds Eastern time or earlier, minus 155.

Speaker 5 Last year, the NFL account tweeted to Los Angeles Rams Super Bowl champions at 10 p.m. Eastern on the dot.

Speaker 1 And the Eagles do like to run the ball. So could maybe get a quicker game.

Speaker 5 So if it's the same thing as last year, it's 15 minutes of cushion. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
Okay, but that is a a rooting against overtime bet.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm going to sprinkle a little on overtime just in case.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, I have a can't-lose parlay for the Super Bowl. I can't remember all the props, but I do have, Hank, you'll like this.

Speaker 1 If you bet $25 in the Barstool Sportsbook on the can't-lose parlay, if the opening kickoff is not returned, you get $10.

Speaker 6 Love that.

Speaker 1 So the can't-lose parlay can lose.

Speaker 1 Well, it's a can't-lose parlay, but you get $10.

Speaker 2 Hank, are you doing anything with the opening kickoff?

Speaker 6 No, I crunched the numbers. There's not too much juice either way.
I'm probably going to go

Speaker 6 for it to be a touchback again.

Speaker 2 But you're not staking your reputation on it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and it's minus 137.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 2 That makes you very sad to bet on something with that type of odds, doesn't it?

Speaker 6 It's like impossible.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because you look at the other side, it's like, wait,

Speaker 2 that's way better.

Speaker 1 Max, did you just hurt yourself? I just heard ah, ow.

Speaker 1 I like rolled over on my balls. You rolled over on his balls?

Speaker 1 His big old balls.

Speaker 5 Max, good news, cheapest ticket. Now $4,300.

Speaker 1 So top $200.

Speaker 1 Going back up.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for points.

Speaker 6 I'm rooting for a close game.

Speaker 6 A double doink misfield goal at the end would be great.

Speaker 1 No, it wouldn't. And this way.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't say who. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 1-800 gambler, if you had a gambling problem, gamble responsibly, but the Super Bowl is so much fun. There's so many different props.

Speaker 1 And with that, why don't we get to our interview with Lane Johnson? We talk to him about what maybe

Speaker 1 type type of Gatorade they drink on the sideline.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a recurring guest, very special guest, future Hall of Famer, hopefully future two-time Super Bowl winner. It is Lane Johnson from the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 We're talking to you Super Bowl week. Lane, it's great to see you.
Let's, I mean, how's the groin/slash stomach? What can you explain the injury?

Speaker 1 Because every time that it's explained, it seems like it gets more painful for regular guys like us. Well, originally, Schefter reported as a core injury, and that's before like the MRI came back.

Speaker 1 So, it's like everybody had bad information. But you have like three adductor heads, and I tore one of them.
So, so yeah, when he said core, that's I think what growing up.

Speaker 1 When he said core injury, I was like, Did he tear his whole head? Yeah, it wasn't apparently, that's what people were texting me. I was like, No, he messed it up.

Speaker 2 You said Schefter texted, he tweeted it out before you even got your MRI done. Yeah, so he just knew.

Speaker 1 So, either the doctor or whoever had the images told

Speaker 1 he probably got some money for it. Like he had his way into

Speaker 2 your room, into your

Speaker 1 TMZ of the.

Speaker 1 We did like similar stuff to Pierre Paul. Remember? Yeah.
He did that. Yeah.
Mine wasn't near severe, but he was lost like four fingers.

Speaker 2 There's only three. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Jobs Peterson.
Yeah, exactly. So wait, so are you feeling good? Because we...
I love watching you play, and I also really want the Eagles to win. Yeah, I feel good.

Speaker 1 The first game, I was a little bit iffy, but the second game, I felt a lot better, and then I had two weeks

Speaker 1 this time around to recover, so I feel good.

Speaker 1 And now, like, just on a pure football is a very violent sport, tough sport, but like, you do have to feel a little bit like a badass when they're like, hey, you need surgery, and you're like, nah, I got to play in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I mean, if we weren't in this position, like the talent level that we have on the roster, it's like you can see it, like, whenever it comes around, don't come around often, but I was like, I knew we had a chance to be, you know, where we're at now.

Speaker 1 So I was like,

Speaker 1 32, can't hold anything back. Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 2 Your quarterback is a tough motherfucker, too. Strong.
Real strong guy. What is he squatting at, like 600 pounds?

Speaker 1 Six, yeah. He powerlifted in the high school.

Speaker 2 It's crazy when you watch the tapes of him

Speaker 2 doing squats back at Alabama. He's a tough dude.
He's like,

Speaker 2 from everything I've read, he's become like an unquestioned leader of this team. I'm curious to know, like, from your perspective, because you're a veteran presence.

Speaker 2 You were looked at as one of the leaders of this team as well. When he stepped in the locker room, how long did it take for you guys to recognize this dude's a leader?

Speaker 1 It wasn't very long.

Speaker 1 You could tell a lot just from his body language.

Speaker 1 He didn't talk a lot, but if he said something, it was usually had some substance to it.

Speaker 1 But really, if I had to compare like a personality, he was like Ivory Christian from Friday Night Lights to Demons of the In that didn't talk much. That's Jalen.
Okay. That's a good

Speaker 1 comparison. What? So this season has been fantastic.
You guys going into the season, not a lot of people were thinking that you'd be in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 What point in the season were you like, oh, we're like good, good?

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 Maybe it was training kids. Well, no, it's like there's a few games that are going to be tough and go down the wire.
Sometimes it's not like to a good opponent.

Speaker 1 Sometimes like when we played the Bears and we played Indianapolis and like had some ugly games and found a way to win them, I was like, you know, that's a team that we need to be

Speaker 1 those two games. So the unassuming games that were like hard, like we were supposed to win your favored, it's supposed to be easy.
Those can turn out to be the hardest games.

Speaker 1 And it was a hard game for us. Well, Chicago, you couldn't feel anything.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's an interesting answer because I would have assumed it was like, you know, somewhere in the first month or two where you guys were blowing people out. But you're right.

Speaker 1 Like those games where everyone expects the good team to just demolish the bad team, those are the games like if you handle your business, that's the sign that you got something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, and then, you know, acquiring Sue and Limbaugh, just having those, just having the rotation we have on the defensive line,

Speaker 1 that makes the team go.

Speaker 1 You can't have many two good pass rushers.

Speaker 1 And just, you know, eventually somebody's going to get a one-on-one battle. It doesn't matter what kind of scheme you're doing.
Somebody's going to be left one-on-one.

Speaker 1 That's what they pray on.

Speaker 2 What about right after that game against the Commanders, the Monday Night Football game?

Speaker 2 Did you guys win that game? We lost. Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, we did lose.

Speaker 2 After that game, how long did you, like, right afterwards, were you like, okay, here's what we need to fix. Did you change anything about what you were doing?

Speaker 2 Or, like, how do you, how do you not let a loss like that affect you and let it cascade?

Speaker 1 Well, you learned from it. It was one of those games, like I said, you're expected to win.
It's supposed to be an easy game, and those can, what they call them, trap games.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you can go out there and not put out your best performance. But I feel like after that game, I feel like that got our attention back somewhat, refocused us.

Speaker 2 So what you're saying is like partial credit for the Super Bowl should go to the Washington Command.

Speaker 1 Pretty much. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 Lightning the fire, being the catalyst. I'll take it.
Hang the banner. Okay, so I have a question that

Speaker 1 I want to phrase it correctly because you're a friend of ours.

Speaker 1 We always want to take care of our friends. The last thing we want to do is make a headline before the Super Bowl.
We had Chris Long on before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 We actually cut part of that interview and then the other part made a headline out of nowhere because it was like an innocuous comment about the White House. So all this is the preface.

Speaker 1 And he's a great coach.

Speaker 1 But Nick Siriani's corny, right? He's kind of corny. He's learning as you go.

Speaker 1 Like the thing about Nick is like he'll admit, like whenever he did the first press conference or whatever, and then he had the team meetings like, guys, I shit the bed. That was terrible.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's awesome. So when you had that vulnerability and like you're human too, that makes people even want to be able to do it.
Yeah, it's realness. So realness.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, that's actually, I'm happy you told us that because

Speaker 1 we're fans of Nick Siriani. He's a great coach, but we've been basically our line of thinking has been if the Eagles at any point dip off,

Speaker 1 everyone's going to be making fun of him for being corny because you can do whatever you want. Well, they all you did like last year was like we started the season terrible and ended up surging back.

Speaker 1 But remember planted the seeds and the roots. Sometimes you don't have a whole lot.

Speaker 1 Sometimes there's a drought and nothing's growing. So we had to go through that phase too.
Does it does do those things work in the NFL, though? Because it's very college-like, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, when you get in a game so long, it's like I've heard every type of motivational quote that's ever been written. Like, I don't, you know, so you're not needing a lot.

Speaker 1 I'm just thinking, hey, I got to get off the ball. I got to listen to Kelsey for the snap.
I'm not worried about a whole lot else.

Speaker 2 On third down, you're not thinking about planting flowers. I'm not thinking about it.

Speaker 1 You're not thinking about

Speaker 1 it. You're thinking about.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You played the eight mile.

Speaker 2 Did 8-Mile pump you up? Because I'm with the mindset that eight like, it plays.

Speaker 2 Where did 8-Mile get it? Didn't he play it for you guys before?

Speaker 1 That's the report. Before the Giants game, maybe in the playoffs, he played some of 8-Mile.
I can't do. We have so much.

Speaker 2 The final rap battle.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We have like 50 rap songs. I'm trying to think

Speaker 1 which song am I remembering.

Speaker 1 That's perfect.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it was. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So you just said get off the ball.
There's been a lot of talk. There hasn't been a lot of talk.
And listen, we know ball. We study tape.
We know that what you're doing is not off sides.

Speaker 1 Can you explain to people why they're stupid for thinking you're offsides when you're clearly not?

Speaker 2 False start. False start.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's probably some plays where I am a little bit early, but. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 You go on the AD hike.

Speaker 1 So my thing is, as soon as Kelsey flinches his wrist, sometimes like in the screenshots, it shows me moving.

Speaker 1 People try to screen. Yeah, during the clip, he's like flinches his elbow.
His elbow's already moved or his wrist has to snap the ball. And like, I'm just learning this from Jason Peters.

Speaker 1 Jason Peters learned it from Walter Jones. Ray Williams learned it.
You know,

Speaker 1 any tackle that's pretty good in the league, if you don't have a good get-off, you're not quick out of your stance, you're done. Right.
You're done. Right.
That was like...

Speaker 1 Like 100-meter dash, if you bullshit the first five yards, 10 yards, you're done.

Speaker 2 I'm just with the mindset that if they're not calling it, then it's not cheating. Right.

Speaker 1 I'll just take the heat and just keep going. Yeah, they can say that you're getting it.
Maybe it's their eyes.

Speaker 1 They should have said this eight, nine years ago when I started learning how to do this. Right.
Like, it's been long. Like, this should have been, this is a long overdue discussion.

Speaker 1 And you're right, because it is like every great tackle. Trent Williams is a perfect example.
Like, every

Speaker 1 really elite tackle

Speaker 1 against Micah. Go watch him setting out the ball quick.
If you don't, you're done. Right.
You're done. Right.

Speaker 1 And what am I worried about doing my job or somebody in fucking Harrisburg telling me I'm early? Right. Yeah, no, it is the screenshots.
People love doing the screenshots. We're like, look at this.

Speaker 1 Sorry, guys, if I'm early, but. No, no, no.
You're not fine. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 We know ball. We know that you're not.

Speaker 2 And you don't need to apologize for anything.

Speaker 1 It's funny, is like all the ex-linemen are like, they're like in the O-line community, so they're like rooting for me. Yeah, no, I saw Red Worth and those guys.

Speaker 1 I saw a video of an ex-lineman coach, and he was like, everyone who says this is a false start, you don't realize this is just Lane Johnson being elite.

Speaker 1 So you got to get off the ball, man.

Speaker 1 We know ball.

Speaker 2 I don't know if this is coming across in the microphones at all, but you've cracked your left foot probably like nine times, and it's so loud. Is that the one that you've had all the work done?

Speaker 1 That's like my Mr.

Speaker 2 Deeds foot. Can I see your foot?

Speaker 1 I got toe space. Let's throw your foot.
Oh, geez. What shoes are you? Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Here we go.

Speaker 1 I'll take the risk and say, what are they?

Speaker 1 Vivo barefoot, and I'm trying to get a sponsorship. So

Speaker 1 I have a lot of the team to start trying them on.

Speaker 2 Do you have the screws in that ankle?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Can you still see them?

Speaker 1 You can feel them.

Speaker 1 Look right here. Ooh.
Yeah, so that's a tightrope, and then this is the deltoid.

Speaker 2 And is your foot feeling better?

Speaker 1 It has its days where it feels better, but

Speaker 1 the groin kind of took the focus off of that.

Speaker 2 That was the question I was going to ask you because we were talking with

Speaker 2 the guy's name's Escaping, the dude that broke his leg and arm at the same time, trying to dunk a basketball.

Speaker 1 Oh, Tom Segura. Tom Segura.

Speaker 2 Tom Segura. Yeah, so Tom had that injury, and he's like, well, you can't really feel...
You can't feel both of them at the same time. Is there any truth to that?

Speaker 2 That if one part of your body is more injured, it takes the a pan out.

Speaker 1 I feel like there's going to be one body part that's going to be a little bit worse than the other one. You're just going to put all your attention towards that.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You've got a...

Speaker 2 You might be the biggest guest, like, physically, in part of my take history. Is that fair to say?

Speaker 1 I got to look at the lineup. Do you still have

Speaker 2 a six-pack?

Speaker 1 We had Kane on. Oh, that's right.
That's always the answer. Kane's huge.
Yeah, Kane's huge.

Speaker 1 Congressman or Washington. He's a Mayor or something.
Yeah, Mayor Kane, yeah. Yeah, he's always my DA.
Kane is like the more globally known John Runyon of the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should actually get into wrestling afterwards.

Speaker 1 You know, I thought about it, but dude, I'm going to be, I'm already 32, so it's like,

Speaker 1 let's keep destroying my body some more. No, it'd be fun.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm a big fan of it, but we'll see.

Speaker 2 So if you guys win on Sunday, you're coming back, right? You're not done with football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not done. I keep telling people, like, two more years.
I like that. Two more years.
I don't want to fade away and start declining and just keep, I don't want to steal money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I feel bad.

Speaker 2 I'd be okay with stealing money.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm fine with that. If anybody wants to steal it, well, I turn stealing money, but uh, yeah, two years.
I'm like, two years, I'm good.

Speaker 1 Well, if you're still elite, like we had uh, our good friend Mark Schlerithon, and he told the story that at the end of his career, he was watching tape, uh, practice tape, and he was like, who is that guy?

Speaker 1 He looks so slow, and then he realized it was him,

Speaker 1 and he was like, Fuck, I got to be done with this. That's what I'm saying.
It's like every player in their career, they'll go to a point and like they're in denial.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm still looking good, I'm still looking good, and then one day somebody hits you with a comment, bro, what's what's going on?

Speaker 1 Somebody will come and hit you with the facts.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 2 right now, your offensive line is probably the best in the league. Fair to say, a lot of people have.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so Mulatto.

Speaker 2 Have you watched his rugby film? Yes. From back in the day when he was playing rugby league.

Speaker 1 He's running over fucking people that are mowing lawns over there. Yeah,

Speaker 2 it's crazy to watch that shit. Like, he is, he's still a little bit more.

Speaker 1 He was like only 320 or 310 there. I mean, it's still big, but now he's like, he's listed at 370.

Speaker 1 He's He's been four before, but he plays it like around 380.

Speaker 2 What's impressive to watch with him is not just like his sheer size and speed, which is otherworldly, but his ball handling ability. Like, he's tucking the ball away.
He's moving it.

Speaker 2 Have you guys thought about getting the ball in the backfield at all?

Speaker 1 I would like to see it. He'd better put some pads on those shins in case he gets folded.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man, no, he's extremely athletic, and he can sing, and he can play football.

Speaker 1 And what's crazy is how many people come into the league that don't have any college background, that don't have a high school background and play in the NFL. It's like it's unheard of.

Speaker 2 I mean, you, you are kind of a case in point of learning on the job because you went, you went to college, you played quarterback for a little bit, and then you switched to tight end

Speaker 2 and then you switched to defensive line, and then they moved you up to offensive line. Did you ever think that like you were just never going to stop growing?

Speaker 1 You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 So like, oh, you offered me that year, and I ended up going with OU, but TCU offered me whenever I walked into their office, Gary Patterson, the coach that was there for a long time, he was like, dude, you're going to be 300 pounds.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, 250. I'm like, I did not want to hear that shit.
And then three years down the road, he was riding.

Speaker 1 But yeah, OU has like a tradition of doing that. Like Jamal Brown, Gabe.
I feel like a lot of programs are doing that, getting tight ends, guys. They're ex-basketball players.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Joe Thomas was the tight end when he was in the Thomas concert. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. How much did you have to eat to put on the weight necessary?

Speaker 1 I mean, I was already at 280 when I was playing DN, so I got to like 295 my junior year, and I was probably 300, 305 my senior year. So, how's the uh, how's the bro barn doing?

Speaker 1 So, for people who don't know,

Speaker 1 I feel like my house like the Forrest Gump house, so like when I wake up in the morning, there's cars outside, this guy's training. Uh, some of my uh, my buddies, like uh, Runyon, Pryor, uh, Herbie.

Speaker 1 So, just a lot of guys at the house coming in and out. So, usually at the season, I'm in Oklahoma City, and then they just keep their little thing going there.

Speaker 1 And you created, you just renovated your entire barn to a weight, like a gym and call it the Bro Barn? Yeah, I mean, they asked me to name it. I was like, dude, I don't have any clue what to name it.

Speaker 1 But it belongs. So, like, the property I'm on, there's like a big school there.
It's like a, looks like a big ass, it is a big mansion, but I guess they section selling all those things.

Speaker 1 It's okay, we know you make a lot of money. But, anyways, it was a bad horse barn.
You had groundhogs in it, and I got the groundhogs out and put some concrete on it.

Speaker 2 You should call it the arm farm.

Speaker 1 The arm farm? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it damn sure ain't the leg farm. Yeah.
Wait, do you, are do you, do you, uh, you, do you hunt in the offseason, right?

Speaker 1 Uh, not really, like the podcast world sees me as like a more country redneck. I came from the country, but I'm not like a go-out and kill stuff with a okay, my hands and a knife.

Speaker 1 I uh, I like to fish more. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite fish to catch? You know, do some bass fishing. I like going in the bay.

Speaker 1 The answer was the next one, but that's fine. Yeah, no, no, no, no, go ahead.
Sorry, bad.

Speaker 1 What's the biggest fish you've caught?

Speaker 1 A bull shark in Florida.

Speaker 1 Oh, it wasn't good. So we didn't catch shit all day.
And he was like, well, do you want to catch a shark or something for you? I was like,

Speaker 1 hooked this thing two hours later. Fought this thing for two hours, just bowing my back.
Just not good. Fucking damn.
And towards the end, I was like, I'm about to cut this. I'm not doing it no more.

Speaker 1 And then by the end of that, he just started, they'll get so fatigued. They'll like float up on their sides.
Yeah. So it felt good to conquer this.

Speaker 2 Is there like mutual respect for the shark when you got it on board?

Speaker 1 What's crazy is like, we got rid of the bait that we used in the fishing trip. And it wasn't, you know, you dump it in the water.
we're probably 400 yards offshore, and just big bull sharks coming up.

Speaker 1 I mean, we're in Florida, that water gets deep quick.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm not going swimming in Florida.
And you let it go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I let it go. Yeah, hell yeah.
See, I wonder if that, like, for sharks, is like their version of going to the gym where they're just fighting for two hours. It's got to be.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because they got to be really tired after that. Yeah, they said sometimes they'll die.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 But we didn't check on that. It goes back.

Speaker 2 Like, if it tells the other sharks once it gets back in the ocean, like, I just got taken out of the water. It was wild.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was was like a whole other world up there.

Speaker 1 Dude, I fucking just lifted for two hours. Yeah, it was done today.
Wait, was that Lane Johnson?

Speaker 1 I just worked out with Lane Johnson, and he was a small one. That's the crazy job.

Speaker 2 What about when Carson Wentz came back from that hunting trip and he had like 600 ducks nailed to the side of a barn? You see that picture?

Speaker 1 I didn't see it, but I imagine it probably pissed off a lot of the

Speaker 1 fan base. It was just weird to see that many ducks.

Speaker 2 Here, let me show you the picture.

Speaker 1 It is a wild picture. A lot of times, like, they'll get out in the field, like in North Dakota, Dakota.
There's nothing out there and just sit and ambush them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How much does the team miss Chris Long? A lot. Damn.

Speaker 1 Somebody said not at all.

Speaker 1 We don't miss Chris at all. Yeah.
There we go.

Speaker 1 No, Chris is the best.

Speaker 1 And I know you guys are still tight. So I'm sure he's.
Has he like, does he still keep in touch with a bunch of guys from the

Speaker 1 I talk to him probably once or twice a week. It's just cool seeing him make money like outside of football with what he's done with you know the game.
So

Speaker 1 he's happy. He's his body's not hurting as much yeah

Speaker 1 smoking a lot of weed smoking a lot of weed here's the carson went to picture dude that's a significant amount of ducks and they're all dead it looks like it was from like the 1800s

Speaker 1 they needed they need to put this picture in cracker barrel

Speaker 1 right next to the little fucking chess game they have yeah

Speaker 1 um all right so Obviously, this is your second Super Bowl. What, like, what do you think?

Speaker 1 Do you have things in your mind that happened happened in the first Super Bowl that you're like, I now know how to do this? Like, I'm not going to be intimidated by this moment or that moment?

Speaker 1 Like I said, like, you get to, like, so we started the football season July 24th. So, just doing the same thing every day, and then now we're in February.
I'm so just, like, numbed to everything.

Speaker 1 I'm just ready to play.

Speaker 1 And that's all you can do. Try not to worry about all the rest.

Speaker 1 I've done the worrying stuff. It doesn't get you anywhere.
Right. So, like, the, because a lot of guys will say, oh, it's so much faster in the Super Bowl.
And, like, you know, the halftime's so long.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's, yeah, the pregame the halftime it's just a little bit different setup so it's it is like so when you go in a halftime we usually don't have what like nine minutes ten minutes and then now you have 30 so it feels the timing feels weird yeah

Speaker 1 hydration is big during the super bowl it's real big like you got to make sure that your gatorade is the exact flavor that you guys like it it was like what flavor do you guys typically use to say hydration yeah so we have like gator lights which is gator aid with electro lights added and then we have a thing called uh left what color is that yeah what color are they uh they have different colors they have like strawberry kiwi

Speaker 1 I mean, strawberry kiwi. No, I know you and Jug.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what big jug? What do you say most of the jugs are? Color-wise?

Speaker 1 Probably white. They're white.
Okay, glacier or whatever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 But the ones that would be used on the sidelines, that's one. I think it's in a cooler.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, but what about the yellow? It's a jug. Big white.

Speaker 1 It's all yellow Gatorade. Oh, that's yellow.
Okay, okay, interesting. Interesting.

Speaker 1 Only yellow. That's the only color I've seen.
I don't know why that's. Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. Like in the Gatorade Gatorade commercials, you remember all the Gatorade was yellow.

Speaker 1 We ask that question to everyone whoever comes on. What Gatorade's their favorite?

Speaker 2 I think I saw a coach get dumped with Gatorade or something one time. That was kind of weird.
No,

Speaker 1 I don't think you saw that.

Speaker 2 Okay, but yours is...

Speaker 1 If hydropathically they were to dump it, it would be yellow.

Speaker 7 Okay, yellow.

Speaker 1 Got it. Yellow.
Do you know what the Chiefs might drink?

Speaker 1 Red Gatorade. Okay, probably red.

Speaker 2 Are you friends with anybody on the Chiefs?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Creed Humphrey, James Winchester, Long Snapper. Like Mahomes is from around close to where I'm from, East Texas area.
So I knew him when he's in high school. But

Speaker 1 Blake Bell, tied in. Yeah.
Some of the OU guys.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 2 The Bell Dozer.

Speaker 2 You guys talk at all this week?

Speaker 1 No, we haven't. It's crazy.
Usually we'll only talk during the offseason, like when everybody's officially can unwind. But during the season, everybody's just, oh, go to meetings.
I go to

Speaker 1 robot mode.

Speaker 1 Who's the guy you have? Is it position to position before the game that you're going to talk to? Or is like there are certain.

Speaker 1 Usually there'll be like a little, what's up? How you doing? Have you had that planned out in your head? Oh, you talking about pre-game? Yeah, yeah. I don't go out in the field.

Speaker 1 I stay in the locker room though. Really?

Speaker 1 I just warm up in the locker room.

Speaker 1 You're just like a bull in a fucking pen. Well, no, I used to go out there and warm up, and I was like, man,

Speaker 1 I can do fucking push-ups.

Speaker 1 I can do wall squats against the cinder block in the bathroom. So I don't know.
I just rather not go out there until the game's ready.

Speaker 1 That's great. So wait, you're just sitting in there doing wall squats, pushing.
I mean, I'm sitting in there listening to some music,

Speaker 1 some of the rap, and then I'll put my own playlist on. I like that.
Get a little bit lost in that, and then I get ready.

Speaker 2 Do you have to get yourself into a violent mode when you get on the field? Or is it just you've done it for so long?

Speaker 1 You know, not violent.

Speaker 1 Like, what I've found is like when you play very emotional, like if you're really revved up, unless you're Brian Dawkins, it can kind of distract you, and you can sometimes get too hype and mess up a play and not be what you want to be.

Speaker 1 So my thing is,

Speaker 1 you know, I'm going into a battle, not a whole lot of good that can come from it. I just keep my quarterback clean and

Speaker 1 hang on, pretty much.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, well, you can't have an awesome highlight like the one that you had against Vaughn Miller. That is maybe one of the coolest blocks that I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I remember that. I was like, so that was the play right before halftime.
So I remember doing the block, but I didn't remember seeing him. And then after the game, it was like, went viral.

Speaker 1 But what he was doing, he was trying to make an inside spin on me, and I just hit him at the right time. So, next time we play, he's gonna totally try to fucking rip my hands.

Speaker 2 But you have to admit, like, watching it, it's cool to see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it looks cool. You helicoptered him, helicopter,

Speaker 1 taken off, yeah, yeah, it was very cool.

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Speaker 1 I remembered why I thought you would be a good wrestler because I read somewhere that your first job... It's gravedigging.
Gravedigging. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the most badass thing ever. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It wasn't.

Speaker 1 It's a lot cooler. It sounds a lot cooler than what it is.
Like, I get there and I'm like. How old are you?

Speaker 1 I was 15, 16. Okay.
Gravedigging in a house. I mean, my population in my town, I looked at it.
It's like 9, 18. So we don't have a whole lot going on.

Speaker 1 It's either that or you can work at the Dollar Gin. You can

Speaker 1 feed store. That makes it crazier, just so you know, because that means you're grave digging and you know the person every time.
It is weird.

Speaker 1 So, you know, digging the the graves is obviously hard but we also had to set up the funerals so like all the astral turf all the seats and then we had the responsibility of lowering the cassette so the last thing i'm thinking is don't fuck this up i don't want to see somebody's grandmother get dumped out right you know and not good but no it was it went well uh so yeah my my stepdad's uh best friend was was the mortician in town so okay long story short that's all i got i mean i don't know how that's not your nickname the gravedigger yeah the gravedigger well they have that monster truck yeah i know i know but like

Speaker 2 you're the monster truck of of the yeah

Speaker 1 You're digging graves for him. Grave digger shirt and having a little bump head coming out the fucking truck.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you see, by the way, the so the NFC championship game, I don't know how much you've been on social media during the season. Did you see the Philly fans going after Joey Bosa before the game?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw it. What did you think about that? I mean, that's just Philly through and through.

Speaker 1 I mean, there is no winning. If you respond, you've lost.
It doesn't matter what you say, you've lost. But he's pissed off.
I mean,

Speaker 1 so him and Nick actually had had the same surgery that I'm that I'm about to get. Okay.
So that's what he was missing time with earlier this year.

Speaker 1 So he was probably trying to have a good time and wasn't allowed to have a good time and let the people know that, hey, he's ready to bark. Yeah.
And bite. Yeah.
But I mean, Philly, like, do you know,

Speaker 1 you know, you've only played with the Eagles, but do you know, like, the fans, like, can you feel it when you're playing at the link for a big game?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so what was funny, so like, I think it's my rookie year, I used to sit with Evan Mathis, and sometimes like the crowd wouldn't know if it was the home, the home bus or the away team.

Speaker 1 So they just, whatever bus was getting flipped off,

Speaker 1 we're getting flipped off on the way to the game.

Speaker 1 And sometimes on the way out of the game, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's part of it.

Speaker 2 In the case of Bosa, it's like the second that you respond by saying

Speaker 2 my money, you're like, yeah, I'm rich, you kind of lose.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you lost. You lost.

Speaker 2 You got beat by the ball.

Speaker 1 And I also, we had the hypothetical. It's like, I don't think there's, I don't care how rich you are, how good you are in football.
You go up against like 10 drunk Philly scumbags.

Speaker 1 They're going to win every time. They are.
They just are. They're just going to beat you with their work.
And there's no telling what was said before those two clips.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, he was just taking that shit on the chin all game until he said, hey, I had enough. Yeah, right.
Speaking of pro wrestlers, he looks like he could be

Speaker 1 Sean Michaels. Yeah.
You know, big time.

Speaker 2 Is there anybody in the NFL that you really enjoy going up against? Like, maybe somebody that's a worthy competitor, but someone that you always like, you relish that competition?

Speaker 1 Ooh, I mean, really, DeMarcus, just because you play him for so long. Kerrigan, when he was playing.

Speaker 1 But really, man, it's like whatever person I'm going against, it's like you have respect. And like, sometimes the hardest games are the ones if you like overlook an opponent.

Speaker 1 Like, I've seen that happen. Like, you take it lightly, and somebody that shouldn't beat you beats you.

Speaker 1 So, it's like every game I try to make it the same, like, you're going into a gunfight with rocks. Yeah.
I want that feeling of pressure. Yeah.
I mean, gunfight with rocks.

Speaker 2 Your offensive line is so much fun to watch. Are you guys, would you consider yourself to be filthy, dirty, or nasty?

Speaker 1 uh we're pretty uh we take showers so we're not filthy uh i would say nasty you should see i don't know i feel like the more back hair a person has like the stronger the person is that's a fact yeah and so landon diggerson might be the strongest person in the world okay

Speaker 1 when he's 23 i'm like dude you look like fucking a grizzly bear

Speaker 1 That's so perfect. Yeah, I get what you're saying.
And you're right. If you see someone with a lot of back hair, you're like, stay away.
It's all man's strength. That's testosterone, too.

Speaker 1 You can feel it. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 And that shirt in the sweater stops right there at the crease of his shirt, too. So he's been matching it up with it.
Who's the guy on your defensive line that's hardest to block in practice?

Speaker 1 I know, obviously, you guys aren't doing full-speed practice anymore, but like.

Speaker 1 Dude, you're not moving Limbaugh out of a hole. He's like a statue just sitting there.
You're not going to move him. Sue's hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, those two. Jordan Davis.
He's a big boy. Some big dudes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some real big dudes. If you don't get their feet moving, like on the play, if it's a run play, if they're just sitting there holding, then you have no shot.
They're just leaning forward, waiting.

Speaker 1 You got to get them to cross their feet and then push. And once their foot's in there, that's when you can drive them off the ball.

Speaker 1 But if you don't have a good angle, you're just going to just get jousted. Yeah.

Speaker 2 We saw Sue when we were walking in here, and when he walked past me, I was scared.

Speaker 1 I love Sue.

Speaker 1 He might be my favorite player on this team. I don't think he likes a whole lot of people.
I don't think,

Speaker 1 like, what was funny? He don't go out after games and shake hands. He doesn't, he's like, why am I going to shake hands with my opponent after I just fought the man for three hours? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was like, you got a point. And then he said, I will celebrate when we win the Super Bowl.
I didn't think he went out there last time. I was like, that's a pretty gangster.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 he's a very nice guy. We had him on the show one time, and we enjoyed hanging out with him.
But god damn, is he terrifying?

Speaker 1 He's intimidating, and he's super smart, too. It's all about his money, the finances.
He's into that. And

Speaker 1 yeah, man. I mean, just watching him from what he was in college to now, he's had a long career.
I think it's like 35, 36. He's been around for a while.

Speaker 2 And he still gets it done. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hasn't missed a game. We play this game with everybody that comes on the show.
It's called Haters Say.

Speaker 2 Haters Say. The Haters Say that you guys haven't played anybody in the playoffs.
Your response to the Haters.

Speaker 1 We've had two opponents, the Giants, and nobody thought they were a good team. And then 49ers, which was a good team.

Speaker 1 I don't know. We beat them, but it wasn't what was bad about it is that the second half, they didn't really have a chance to compete.
That's what people didn't like. So he couldn't throw.

Speaker 1 I've never seen that in the game out of all my games that I've played, and I've never seen that. So

Speaker 1 I think if he would have stayed healthy, it would have been a much closer game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, did you know that you guys had the game one in the third quarter? It's like, well, they can't

Speaker 1 pass off it. Yeah, but really, man, you can't breathe until that game's over.
Stouts over there, just Al Pacino in any given day.

Speaker 1 I sit next to Isaac. Isaac doesn't say a whole lot, so he keeps me very, my energy level in a state of homeostasis.
That's good.

Speaker 2 That's the only thing haters say.

Speaker 1 Well, haters also say you false start, but we address that. Yeah.
You don't.

Speaker 1 The haters are idiots. That's a Joe Rogan conspiracy theory.
Yeah, exactly. That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 They just screenshot moments. They're like, look, see? No, you don't know ball.
Yeah. You don't know ball.

Speaker 2 Haters say that it's all scripted, that you already know who's going to win. So what does your script say?

Speaker 1 I just don't know the script this week. Yeah.
There's some parts when you're playing, you're like, it kind of looks scripted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Just clip that out.
Flip that part.

Speaker 1 No, but it would be funny if there was parts that were. Yeah, I don't even know how the stuff started.
This stuff started like three weeks ago, went viral. I'm just weird.
What was the origin?

Speaker 1 It was weird. I don't know.
I have no idea. It was me.
You started? Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was me.

Speaker 2 I was talking to Arian Foster on the other podcast.

Speaker 1 Arian Foster.

Speaker 2 And so I was joking with him, and he's joking with me. And I was just like, so you were telling me before we started taping that DNFL is all scripted.
And Arian. He was serious.

Speaker 2 No, he was playing along.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was playing along.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and he was like, well, yeah, I used to get my script and would say, okay, you're going to have a hamstring injury week two, and then you're going to score three touches.

Speaker 2 And he said, like, oh, in training camp, they just rehearsed the script over and over.

Speaker 1 Well, there is some truth in it. So actually, we do have like the first 15 scripts.
So that's like the first 15 plays.

Speaker 2 Okay, so it is scripted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it doesn't all go accordingly if the defense doesn't match up, but we have 15 plays where it's like, it's matching. I always thought the first 15 play script, it usually looks really good.

Speaker 1 Teams come out firing. Why not just run it back? No one would expect it.
Maybe do it in reverse. Say it again.
Do the first 15 scripted plays and then just do it in reverse. Yeah.
15 scripted again.

Speaker 1 Because they always look good. Yeah.
I guess adjustments. If you're vaping, it would be hard to pick that up.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, like, if you have 15 plays that you run, it would be, they would not be able to tell that you're doing the same plays over there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you just reverse it.

Speaker 2 Or just do it again in the same order.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Y'all are sports like I'm not doing that. I mean, we would be great coaches.

Speaker 1 All you need is 15 plays to play. I feel like we do make it a whole lot more complicated than what it needs to be.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Football is a simple game.

Speaker 1 It's about matchups. Yeah.
And, hey, man, don't make it too. It's man-on-man violence.
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 How much of a standard play call when you're in the huddle do you actually have to pay attention to as a seven?

Speaker 1 So he'll usually say the formation, the route to the receiver, and then there'll be like

Speaker 1 50s or 60s projection, like a pass play. So I'm just listening to the very end.

Speaker 1 And then sometimes we'll go to the line and we'll have, you know, one, two, sometimes even three plays that we can audible to, depending on the look that we get. So do you ever zone out?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, wait, what is that? While the guy that's next to me is one of the smartest dudes on the field because he ain't missing shit.

Speaker 1 He's just telling you, like, hey, dude, I saw your eyes glaze over there.

Speaker 2 You ever like get up to the line? You're like, oh, shit, I forgot what the play was.

Speaker 1 50, 40% of the time?

Speaker 1 No, we usually go, what's the snap count? That's number one. Yeah.
Ask any offensive style. That's what they're going to say.
What's the snap count? Yeah, I'll figure it out as we go.

Speaker 1 All right, so I have one last or two last questions.

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Speaker 1 My two last questions, I want Max and Roan to ask because they are Philly guys. They're Eagles fans.
They're going to the Super Bowl. But he has a Cowboys hat on.
No, this is the boys. No.

Speaker 1 Buster with the boys. Hey, hey, exactly.
So I get off the elevator this morning, seven o'clock. I'm still in the days.
This dude goes, why in the hell are you wearing a Cowboys hat?

Speaker 1 I said, it's a bar stole fucking hat they gave me, you dumbass. I wasn't in the cabinet.

Speaker 1 But anyways, there was some fan in there, and I'm like, he was serious attacking me. I was like, hey, bro, easy.
Didn't you see George Kittle wear this shit last week? Yeah. It's a

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to be supportive of teammates.

Speaker 1 I was like, no, Lane, please.

Speaker 13 But, dude, it really has been like one of the funnest Eagles seasons of my fucking life, dude. It's just been like, even like the year they won the Super Bowl, like, Carson gets hurt.

Speaker 13 So it's like, there's all this doubt. You know what I mean? This has been just

Speaker 13 such an incredibly fun ride. And I think one of the most marquee plays of the season are those quarterback sneaks that you guys are just smashing up the middle.

Speaker 13 And I feel like it seems like it's just leverage getting lower but there has to be something more why it's working so well this year is it just because jalen's like strong as hell or like what why it's that and then it's just like the formation like we're like in a flying v and we just make a spear so it's like

Speaker 1 we're all trying to our aiming points was like the inside of our guards like uh shoulder

Speaker 1 so uh yeah it just it started out as something we were doing a lot and then we just noticed you know had a lot of success on it and we never stopped

Speaker 1 But, like I said, the Chicago game, I feel like there's a couple times we didn't convert, but other than that, we're pretty money on that.

Speaker 2 When you talk about the sphere and like just driving, that sounds like an ancient warfare, yeah, like technology.

Speaker 1 Speaking of spirit, did you know in Dominican Sue means house of spears? Oh, does it really? That's badass. He's so bad,

Speaker 1 that's the most badass name I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's a legend,

Speaker 13 dude. And my, I mean, I want Max to ask a question, dude, but my only thing is just like

Speaker 1 I'm

Speaker 13 trying to picture what you saw during that parade, dude.

Speaker 13 How it felt when you actually won that Super Bowl, when you're going down Broad Street, those emotions that you felt going on that float and like being able to be like, we've done it.

Speaker 13 Throngs of people around you, like a conquering Roman emperor, and what's it take to get that feeling?

Speaker 1 I just didn't realize the average person's ability to climb. So, like, I'm seeing guys on the sidewalk, and the next thing there's different levels.

Speaker 1 People in the trees, telephone poles, on top of bus stations. So, like, the levels was impressive, but it just means so much to the city.

Speaker 1 Like, when you have people pouring out their ashes at the parade, that's like a different level of respect. But like I said, this team is a little bit different than the 2017 teams.

Speaker 1 I felt like we weren't expected to do much, whereas this season, like we had a talented roster, we were expected to at least do something, and the playoffs make some noise.

Speaker 1 So I got to experience a little bit of both of it.

Speaker 2 In a way, you're going to be grave digging again.

Speaker 2 In the Super Bowl, there's going to be more ashes at the affordable.

Speaker 1 Somebody's got a big mind. Yeah, yeah, you know?

Speaker 1 All right, Max. All right.
Max, don't cry. First of all, I want to say that I love you.
I love you. Wait, what'd you say? I love those Jordans on the bottom.

Speaker 2 It's an interesting story about why he's wearing those Jordans.

Speaker 2 You know how Taylor Heineke buys a pair of Jordans every time he beats a team? Really? So, when the Commanders,

Speaker 2 you just told me I had forgotten they beat the Eagles on Monday Night Football. I bought those for Max in Eagles' colors as his Christmas present.

Speaker 1 So that's kind of a weird thing. It looks like the Jets' colors, but keep on.

Speaker 1 Don't say that.

Speaker 1 Don't say that.

Speaker 10 This is more of a historical, not historical, but playing with Jason Peters.

Speaker 10 One thing that

Speaker 10 one thing that I noticed playing again or watching you play with Peters is that I don't think I've seen anyone get more angry after like a late like a late hit.

Speaker 10 Can you like tell me what would happen in like the in the huddle after something like that? Like

Speaker 10 what was the like what did he bring to the huddle like after he got in someone's face and like beat someone up after someone late hit the party?

Speaker 1 He'd bring a heavy breath back to the huddle because he tired.

Speaker 1 Sometimes whooping ass is pretty taxing, so he'll come back to the huddle out of breath. But I don't know, you respect.
I saw him against Chris Baker, like against,

Speaker 1 they were the Redskins now, but now they're the commanders back in. I think he's like 15 or 16, and he just went over there and just

Speaker 1 when they hit Nick on the sideline. Remember? Yeah, yeah.
So that was, that was pretty funny to watch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man, I mean, it's like if you don't do something, then

Speaker 1 you're going to take L on the internet or amongst your friends. Especially if like your quarterback or or something gets hit and you don't do shit about it.
You just let it happen.

Speaker 1 But you got to believe that as a bad thing, that's not what you can do. You can't just.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Max also wants to know who he should contact if you guys do win for him to get into the party after.

Speaker 1 I didn't say that. Big Dom.
Okay. So there you go.
Big Dom. Okay.
Dom DeSandra. All right.

Speaker 1 I've led you to the name.

Speaker 1 Big Dom. Yeah.
Big Dom.

Speaker 1 Big Dom is a big man. That would be dormant if you guys.
I mean, this would be a perfect ending to

Speaker 1 the, we could put this as a clip where it's like, you guys see each other on the dance floor after the Super Bowl, and Lane's like, you got Big Dom. Yeah.
Big Dom got Bill.

Speaker 10 So Big Cat bought me tickets, bought me a ticket to the game, but if you lose, I own $6,000.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he and Roan are going, I paid for it. And if the Eagles win, it's free.
And if the Chiefs win, they have to pay me back. Well, get your rest up, buddy.

Speaker 1 It's a long Sunday. Let's go.
Long Sunday. Let's go.
It's a long Sunday. But yeah, we're rooting for you, man.
We appreciate you giving us some time.

Speaker 1 I know it's, you know, Super Bowl week, so it was awesome when we saw like lanes down to come on. So, you know, enjoy the weather out here.
It's different than the East Coast. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 And best of luck on Sunday. And yeah, we're rooting for you, man.
Thank you. Yeah, look forward to it.

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Speaker 2 And now, here's TJ Watt.

Speaker 8 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. He is one of the best defensive players in the NFL.
He's also here with a new

Speaker 1 whey protein powder. Let's start with that because we're going to get into everything else.
We have Jersey Jerry as well. It's TJ Watt.
You got your six-star whey protein. I'm trying to get bigger.
So

Speaker 1 is this my magic formula? Am I ready to go?

Speaker 5 Yes, six-star pro-nutrition. The whey is what I use.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think, what was that?

Speaker 5 Like two months ago, I posted a picture and he DM me, TJ, you need more steak.

Speaker 1 Yeah, more steak.

Speaker 10 You need bully food. Yes.

Speaker 5 Let me toss a couple more scoops in my post

Speaker 1 shakes.

Speaker 5 And yeah, it's been working well for me. After the season, I usually lose some weight, so I need help putting it back on, and that does a great job.

Speaker 1 Here we go. And so to set the stage, Jersey Jerry's here.

Speaker 1 He's going to be part of this interview. Jersey Jerry is, I would say TJ Watts' number one fan.
There's no one who rides for you harder. He has a

Speaker 1 armband with all your stats on it, and he tries to get people to get into arguments with him about who's the best defensive player in the NFL. So he is like, if you need

Speaker 1 something done, he would do it in a second.

Speaker 1 He would kill for you. He'd die for you.
Everything. Anything.
That's a good guy to have in your head. Anything.
Anything. Yeah, anything.

Speaker 2 Is there anything that you would not do for TJ?

Speaker 11 I don't think I would. I don't think I would kill myself.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's good. That's good.
I'm not going to ever ask for TJ. That's the one thing.

Speaker 1 That's the one thing.

Speaker 1 Well, then, because then you wouldn't be able to watch TJ Black. Exactly.

Speaker 2 What I love about that is like, you've clearly thought about that before, and you knew where the line was. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Everything else is on the table.

Speaker 1 All right, so PFT and I have some questions, but why don't we start with you, Jerry? You have a list of questions.

Speaker 11 Yes, I have two full pages. Two full pages.
We might not get that to everything, and that's okay, but first I wanted to apologize. And here's why.

Speaker 11 I was a little relentless in the DMs, you know, with you and Danny over all these years. Hey, can you ask TJ to wish me a happy birthday?

Speaker 1 My wife? Yes. Oh, wait, you don't know this, TJ.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 okay. Oh, wow.
So, Jerry

Speaker 1 has DM'd your wife multiple times. Regarding? Asking to wish you a happy birthday, asking if you would play Madden with him.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It was his birthday, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was my birthday. You didn't know this.

Speaker 1 What was the end goal?

Speaker 5 You thought she was going to see it and just...

Speaker 11 I thought she would see it and say, hey, you know, TJ says happy birthday. Or, hey, TJ says he can't play Madden, but I talk to him.

Speaker 5 Do you think she saw and just

Speaker 11 never read it?

Speaker 1 Ah. She never read the message.

Speaker 1 He went back.

Speaker 1 could you pull one up and just read it to us? Which we have an idea.

Speaker 2 In this scenario, TJ, I understand the concern. Like, he's DMing your wife.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I think it's like the most innocuous DMing of a wife possible. He's just honestly trying to get you to wish him a happy birthday.

Speaker 1 And it's also, just to give a little

Speaker 1 bit of a corner. Yeah, to give a little more context.

Speaker 1 He's done it with other players. He DM'd Juju Smith Schuster's mom and was basically like...

Speaker 11 Yeah, but that was when

Speaker 11 I was a bit younger.

Speaker 1 He was 25.

Speaker 1 And he said, it would make... Yeah, he was 25.
It literally was like,

Speaker 1 it would make a young boy's dream if Juju would play Madden with me. She's like, oh, your son? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no.

Speaker 1 Those were the exact words. Yeah, they were pretty close.

Speaker 11 They were close, though.

Speaker 2 They were close.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So he's, yeah, he's in the DMs trying to do work.

Speaker 1 It's crazy she never brought him up. No.

Speaker 1 No. No.
I know what I'm talking about then or not.

Speaker 11 No, so I figured I'd apologize right off the bat.

Speaker 1 Well, he didn't know. Yes.
But that's

Speaker 1 That's good, though.

Speaker 2 You cleared the air before it got messaged.

Speaker 1 That was such a genuine my wife. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got the message. Sure.

Speaker 11 So this is in 2020.

Speaker 11 Would you be able to pass along a message to TJ for me? My birthday is coming up, and it's hard for me to get in contact with my favorite player ever.

Speaker 11 I'm just a regular guy, but a die-hard Steelers fan. I love for my birthday wish to come true.

Speaker 1 Unread. Unread.

Speaker 1 Never read it.

Speaker 1 Never read it. Never read it.
Look where we are now. I know.
It's amazing. All right, so the apology accepted.

Speaker 1 We're good. Awesome.
All right.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's the first question. I don't know where we're going.
No, we have to go.

Speaker 2 No, that wasn't the question. That was just a cool book.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was just a statement.

Speaker 11 That was just, let's get this off, you know? But listen, you had a tough year, I would say. The injury, you know, set you back a little bit.
Do you feel like you rushed back a little bit?

Speaker 11 And were you ever 100% after the injury?

Speaker 1 I don't know if I rushed back.

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 5 they always say coaches need to protect players from themselves. And it's tough when we were kind of skidding like we were.
And I think we were two and six at one point.

Speaker 5 And I just, I wanted to get back as quickly as possible. But also, it's tough when you have JJ and Derek who have gone through the same kind of injuries.

Speaker 5 And they're like, hey, you need to have the best interest of yourself in situations like this. So it's kind of a push and pull of doing what's best for you and for the team.

Speaker 5 No, I mean, I don't know if I ever fully got to 100%. I think it took me a while.
And towards the end of those last game or two, I started to feel a lot better.

Speaker 5 But I think the mental aspect of it also played a role this year.

Speaker 1 So off that question,

Speaker 1 I know football is a team sport. The Watt brothers are the ultimate teammates.
But when you see the stat that's like the Steelers with and without TJ Watt, is it part of it? One in 10 all time.

Speaker 11 What is it? One in 10 all-time without TJ Watt.

Speaker 1 Are you like, damn,

Speaker 1 I actually probably am that good?

Speaker 5 No, I mean, I mean, there's a couple other players that were out and in when I'm in as well. So, I mean, like I said, it is the ultimate team game.
That's why I love football so much.

Speaker 5 But I just try to bring some intangibles as well. It's not always the on-field performance.
I mean, as Jerry knows, I didn't play as well as I'm used to playing this season.

Speaker 5 But when that's not the case, you have to make sure that you increase the intangible stuff.

Speaker 5 Trying to get the best out of everybody around you, trying to be a force multiplier for your team. And that's just what I'm trying to do, especially as I grow older into my leadership role.

Speaker 2 I like that. You mentioned hearing from JJ, who's gone through some of the same stuff.

Speaker 2 Pretty simple question for you about your family. Who do your parents love the most?

Speaker 1 Ooh, you, JJ, or Derrick?

Speaker 5 I mean, they went through a whole bunch of JJ's games this year. I don't know if it had to do with his retirement or if he was a favor, but

Speaker 5 they weren't at a lot of mind compared to his.

Speaker 2 That's interesting.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry about it.

Speaker 2 You've got two brothers on the Steelers. Also, JJ said that he would consider coming back to play for the Steelers if you guys threw a bag at him next year, like for a playoff run.

Speaker 1 $10 million week 17. Yeah, 10 million starting in week 17.

Speaker 2 He would come back and play for the Steelers. He obviously hasn't communicated that to you.
Do you feel like maybe he's coming to take your job?

Speaker 5 He might want to. Yeah.
I mean, he's conquered the Houston area. He's conquered the Arizona area.
Now he might be coming for Pittsburgh as well. But I don't know.

Speaker 5 Do we have enough cap space to make that happen?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we can clear a clear space.

Speaker 11 We can look at it. We have about 40 million.

Speaker 5 If we make the right cuts.

Speaker 2 Have you guys ever talked about potentially playing together, the three of you? Was that something that was ever brought up?

Speaker 5 I think it was when he was leaving Houston, he was actually in true free agency. It was brushed on briefly, but when it comes down to the numbers of things,

Speaker 5 you realize it's not very likely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that would be torture for Hank because he doesn't know which Watt to bet on. I think that's a good thing.
Yeah, so

Speaker 1 Eric Watt. Yeah, the touchdowns.
I've never seen someone so excited.

Speaker 1 Jerry, next question. Yeah, for sure.
That was a good one. That was a good way to set it up.
We want to ask some follow-up. I'm feeling it right now.
Yeah, you are.

Speaker 1 You're in the zone.

Speaker 11 When you look at the season, right, do you look at it as like it was a successful season, you rookie quarterback, you know, or you look at it as like a failure because you didn't accomplish the ultimate goal, which is a Super Bowl.

Speaker 11 And you know, Pittsburgh, you know, maybe not so the last decade, but the Steelers' way, Mike Tomlins' way, you know, Super Bowl playoff wins.

Speaker 11 It hasn't been like that in the last decade, but do you look at it? at it as like we failed, we totally failed or it was a success?

Speaker 5 I think it's somewhere in the middle. Obviously, like you said, being a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, you're used to the playoffs, and the playoffs is the bar to get you in.

Speaker 5 And you just want to be able to have a chance to get in and make a run. And we started out very slow, but we also had a lot of young talent.

Speaker 5 I mean, but with that comes guys that want to buy into the process. You're sitting at two and six.
Mike Tomlin's able to gather the troops and really get us to buy in.

Speaker 5 And I said it earlier, we did, I think, as many padded practices as you possibly could for the season. And we needed it for the young team that we were.

Speaker 5 And we just continue to get better and better each and every week. I think we just ran out of time, but we have a good core nucleus of guys that we can build upon that for next year.
For sure.

Speaker 1 What is it about Mike Tomlin that

Speaker 1 it's crazy? Because

Speaker 1 I used to be like, oh,

Speaker 1 when the whole Ben, L'Avion Bell, Antonio Brown stuff was going on, it's like, he's got to get control of the locker room.

Speaker 1 And now I look back and I'm like, no, he actually had, he did better than anyone could have done with what was going on. Like, what does he do with the players that makes him so likable?

Speaker 5 And always, you guys are always feel like you're in it towards the end of the season, even if you start slow or have a bad, you know, year, you know, because this year wasn't great but yeah you ended up nine and eight and had a chance on on the last Sunday of the season to make the playoffs what what is it about coach tom he's just really he knows how to understand people and how to get the most out of them I tell people all the time it's we come from so many different backgrounds different states this is a football team and how do you get each and every individual motivated differently and he does such a good job of getting to know you as the person and he'll ask you about your family he'll ask me how's my wife doing things like that that might not seem like it goes a long way but it makes those little things make you want to buy in that much more for him and um like i say our back was against the wall at one point and not much changes it's the same messaging it's just maybe a little different way to say it and uh we bought in and we we we started to win some games but we just ran out of time yeah this year you had a quarterback change for the first time in a long time in pittsburgh did big ben ever show up like preseason during the season Just was he ever around the facility, just sniffing around like,

Speaker 2 maybe I'm not done. My body feels pretty good.

Speaker 5 didn't see any did you see any of that

Speaker 1 you didn't see any locker room no

Speaker 5 he was it weird not having been around though just because he's been in an institution he's been there for so long it felt like he was the Pittsburgh Steelers of the 2000s yeah I mean it was definitely different but it was a nice chance for some guys to find a voice and for us different guys talking in the huddle things like that and just also just There was kind of this turnover.

Speaker 5 We're just so young. And you have so many guys that have so much success in college that they didn't didn't really know how to handle sometimes failure in the NFL.

Speaker 5 And losing isn't necessarily a failure. You just have to learn from it and learn how to grow and how to practice and be a true professional.

Speaker 5 And having a good group of young guys with also like a good mix of middle-aged guys. And you got like Cam Harrid, the old, really old-ass dudes

Speaker 5 that keep us all connected.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, we're big Kenny fans. Jerry's actually showered at his house.
I showered, yeah.

Speaker 5 Is that when we faced that? Hopefully that wasn't the same thing.

Speaker 1 That was dinner time. Yeah, that was last year.
He was actually in the shower at the Super Bowl last year.

Speaker 2 We FaceTimed TJ, or we FaceTimed Jerry after the TJ interview, and Jerry picked it up. He's just got a towel holding on.

Speaker 11 Well, I should have been there for the interview.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Well, you're here now. I'm here now, which is amazing.
Right.

Speaker 1 All right, so you got an

Speaker 1 eye.

Speaker 1 Can we do a little rapid TJ? Yeah, I did a little rapid fire. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Questions?

Speaker 11 And if you don't want to answer, just say pass. And that's totally fine with me.
We'll start off go-to meal after a football game.

Speaker 5 Pizza.

Speaker 11 Okay. Do you have anything?

Speaker 1 Think about that, Jerry.

Speaker 11 That's good. It's a good, it's a good choice.

Speaker 1 Not all the time.

Speaker 11 No, yeah, but that's a good choice. Okay, but I mean, it's kind of a little bit carb-heavy, but we get the body back a little bit.

Speaker 1 You have to replenish.

Speaker 11 Of course, I understand that.

Speaker 11 Let's see here. When was the last time you cried?

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 My wedding. I figured that.
When was the last time you cried, Jerry? This morning. Okay.

Speaker 11 What happened? I was doing this.

Speaker 1 He's getting ready for this.

Speaker 11 All right. Bath or shower.

Speaker 1 Shower.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 Steroids are all natural.

Speaker 5 All natural.

Speaker 1 Excuse me. This.
Six star stars. Six stars.
Perfect, perfect. Six-star way protein.
Okay.

Speaker 11 Like I said, you can just pass on some of these. Pro-vax or anti-vax?

Speaker 1 Pass. Okay.
That's fine.

Speaker 2 Wait, did you say pass on the vax or pass on the staff?

Speaker 5 I'm just going to pass it there.

Speaker 1 That's fine.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're supposed to be in my corner here. I'm in your corner.
No, he just wants to know, Jerry.

Speaker 1 Jerry's anti-vax. So

Speaker 1 he's hoping that you would come out strongly in his quad staying out of the weeds.

Speaker 11 Okay, we only got a few more. The bedtime routine.

Speaker 1 Are you an underwear, no-shirt guy, a pajama set guy?

Speaker 1 That's just. How long did it take you to come up with that? Oh, hours.
Yeah, he's been thinking about that. Shorts.
Shorts. Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 Last one, we'll do this.

Speaker 11 Deshaun Watson, guilty or innocent.

Speaker 1 Pass. Perfect.

Speaker 2 I think you got, what, two answers out there? Yeah, you got three.

Speaker 1 I agree. No, I got three answers.

Speaker 2 You missed 100% of the shots that you don't take. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Those are good rapid fires. Good rapid fire.

Speaker 5 Faccerat 540 or Tom Ford Oudwood.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jerry Fragrance about to pull something out.

Speaker 1 He's about to pull something out. The best.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 This is called.

Speaker 2 Well, these are Travels.

Speaker 11 This is called Afternoon Swim by Louis Vuitton. I want you to try it.

Speaker 1 Jerry's passing him cologne now. I've never seen one.
One. Travels.

Speaker 11 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you put your wrist on.
Put your wrist on. What do you think about that?

Speaker 11 It's fresh.

Speaker 5 It is fresh. Very good.

Speaker 11 Very fresh. You like that one.
Now we'll do this one. We'll see which one you like.

Speaker 1 Summer.

Speaker 11 Summer, yes. This is called Tom Ford Tusken Leather, and I'm wearing it.

Speaker 1 If you want to smell me. No, I'd rather do this.

Speaker 1 That's fine. Very good.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's baby. No.
Wow, too short. You should have gone with

Speaker 1 that one.

Speaker 11 That last one, you probably have that one. Fokkerach 40.

Speaker 1 Shit. That's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's good. You like that one? I got my wife Faccarat because you were putting a Baccarat for her.
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 5 I got her for Christmas this year.

Speaker 1 I love it. 540.
Yes.

Speaker 11 Making a difference. Making a difference.

Speaker 1 All right, so Jerry, back to the regular questions. What else? For sure.

Speaker 11 I want to get a little bit deeper on Mike Tomlin. You know, like,

Speaker 11 as a fan, for me, it's just like, I love the guy. He seems like a great motivator.
He really does. But it just seems to me.
Does he call him Mediocre Mike?

Speaker 11 I don't think you could find that anywhere.

Speaker 11 I don't think you could find that anywhere.

Speaker 11 Honestly, I don't think you could find that anywhere.

Speaker 1 I got a few videos.

Speaker 11 All right, well, that's fine. Now, it seems to me like at times, he's good under pressure.
He's more like a friend than a coach at times.

Speaker 11 So, like, how is it like after the year is over, is it like, oh, great, great job, men? You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 This group of guys guys will never be here again so appreciate the times we came up short but we'll get them next year what's that like I'll go in the beginning of the season so you have training camp right so like coach t is a cool guy you can have a conversation with him we'll be talking like this and then we'll go into a team meeting and we have what's called the big board so it shows like there'll be competition periods throughout practice throughout the whole week he'll put the big board and it's competition like this guy versus this guy You're like, man, we just had a cool ass conversation out there.

Speaker 5 We're in good terms. And Big Born comes on.
You're like, please don't have me up there, my bad reps. Bam, he'll roast your bad reps in front of everybody.

Speaker 5 So, I mean, it's all about holding you accountable while I think there's a good balance. I think he has the great balance.
And he's had so much success because of it.

Speaker 5 I don't think, I mean, we've been scolded before. It's just, he keeps a lot of things in-house, in-house, and I respect him for that.

Speaker 1 Gotcha. That's a good answer.
It's a great answer.

Speaker 2 We've been big fans of Kenny Pickett's hands. We think that they were severely underrated going into the draft.
And

Speaker 2 he actually has perfectly normal-sized hands.

Speaker 2 Have you gotten to observe them while you shake them?

Speaker 2 What's your opinion being a guy that's around him all the time on his hands?

Speaker 5 I've never, I'm honestly all the coverage on it.

Speaker 1 I've never looked at his hands. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He didn't really have fumbling issues.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 He rocks the two gloves, too, doesn't he?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Two gloves. We don't like the, when he does the visor, we're not a big visor.

Speaker 5 I know, I know, but that helmet's tough to do without a visor.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It looks like a NASCAR helmet.

Speaker 1 No quarterback who wears a visit. It's good for him, though.
But no quarterback who wears a a visor has ever won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Well, he's he's supporting with a double deal because no quarterback with a visor has ever won one. Big Ben wore one in the Super Bowl one year, but that's the year that he lost.

Speaker 2 He had a broken nose at the time. And then no quarterback with long hair has won the Super Bowl since I guess you'd have to go back to Joe Theisman or maybe Kenny Stabler when he had it.

Speaker 2 And he's kind of got the lettuce hang on.

Speaker 1 But he gets a trim. He gets a trim.

Speaker 5 Yeah, what is classified? See the name or not see the name?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if it goes. Could you win the Super Bowl with your hair?

Speaker 1 No, I would be

Speaker 2 an NFL quarterback just because my hair is too long that's the only reason

Speaker 1 yeah but but but I'm saying like if you should just have a word with him be like hey you look like kind of a dirty hippie sometimes if you just trim it up maybe the rest of the team the standard becomes a standard instead of the standard being you know woodstock keep it above the name yeah right above the name right the speaking of hair um i have a question for you tj so is there a specific time every year that you shave your head because jerry uh did you see that clip yeah after the buy i don't know yeah so maybe that's just coincidence

Speaker 11 It's usually somewhere in the middle of the season. You take a lot off the top and you go for the bully cut, which is

Speaker 1 the bully cut. We were sitting watching football one Sunday in the gambling cave, and they showed you on the sideline.

Speaker 1 And Jerry, just out of nowhere, he's like, I love when TJ cuts his hair like that. And we're like, what?

Speaker 1 And then he's like, yeah, after the bye week, he always goes to the bully cut. So

Speaker 1 is that a planned thing?

Speaker 5 I usually like to do it once a year. I definitely do.
I mean, I wear beanies all winter long, long, so I'm just like, I might as well just toss on a hat.

Speaker 5 But I do like the mentality of I don't have to fuck with my hair at all. I can just roll out of bed, go to work, not mess with anything else, cut out all distractions.

Speaker 5 So, I mean, it's definitely part of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he likes that hair.

Speaker 11 I mean, I like you look more intimidating like that. When you got like in the beginning of the year, you usually have a little bit longer hair, and it's like he's not really in bully season yet.

Speaker 11 And then after the buy, you turn it up.

Speaker 1 I was trying to hold a straight face and give you an intimidating. He's all serious.
He's all serious. He likes bully mode.
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 Like, Like, do you ever look at your face?

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell you every season.

Speaker 5 If I have a bad game and you tell me I need to bully ball, I'm going to tell you to get the hell out of here.

Speaker 1 No, that's right.

Speaker 1 Leave me alone. All right.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 What if he tells your wife? Yeah.

Speaker 1 She won't see it.

Speaker 1 She won't see it.

Speaker 11 I'm done with that. But another question I had is this.
Now, who do you gravitate towards after a game?

Speaker 11 Would it be like a guy like me who's gone through all these battles and wars for you and had your back?

Speaker 11 Or would you gravitate towards an eight-year-old kid who's at a game for the first time, giving something away? Like a jersey or something?

Speaker 5 Saying like a tunnel or something after a game?

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 11 you give your gloves or something like that. If you see me and an eight-year-old kid next to me, it's like, hey, TJ, it's my first Steelers game.

Speaker 11 Then you see me, are you giving the gloves to me or are you giving it to the kid?

Speaker 1 I don't know where this is going.

Speaker 5 This could go somewhere else where they were with JJ over there.

Speaker 1 No, no, it's a very

Speaker 1 good job.

Speaker 5 I think I'm going to the kid.

Speaker 11 Gotcha.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 I saw you in Miami.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 11 I only say that because 2019,

Speaker 11 we were playing the Jets. I think it was 19 or 20.

Speaker 1 We were.

Speaker 1 We were playing the Jets. It was in your foxhole.

Speaker 11 It was in Easter Royal the Ferdinand. I had a sign, and I said, hey, TJ, it's your biggest fan.

Speaker 11 And pre-game, you seen it, and I had a jersey, your jersey, and the bottom of the sign, it said, please sign this. And you looked at me.

Speaker 11 You looked at me and you were like, you gave me a nod, like, I got you. And then you just never came.

Speaker 2 You gave it to a kid? No.

Speaker 5 It's so hard. I believe it.
Like, when you come on warm-ups, and there's just so many people that, like, have Steero's gear, have signs, and it's like you truly can't get to everybody.

Speaker 5 It's so hard to show appreciation for people and then not let them down. So it's like, in that situation, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 All good.

Speaker 5 Maybe your hand was covering the please sign.

Speaker 1 Can we write that wrong, maybe?

Speaker 1 Hold on. Did you put it? Hold on.

Speaker 5 He got to apologize.

Speaker 1 I apologize. Oh, thank you.
Wow, Frank.

Speaker 1 But maybe we can go even one further.

Speaker 1 Well, I got a moment.

Speaker 11 You're going to kink telling me to move the mic.

Speaker 1 But maybe we can go one further. Jerry, did you maybe bring anything that could get signed? I might have a couple things.
A couple? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Let's knock out the Christmas gift.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's see what we got. Let's pull out the bag.

Speaker 2 TJ, would you say that Jerry is your biggest fan?

Speaker 1 Hands down. Hands down.
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 Jerry, you're officially stamped.

Speaker 1 His biggest fan. That was incredible.

Speaker 5 I really do appreciate it. We talk about it.
Me and Jada talk about it all the time. It is.

Speaker 1 So it's for my son.

Speaker 11 Yeah, awesome.

Speaker 5 It is so cool to have someone in your corner like yourself.

Speaker 1 So I really do appreciate it, Jerry.

Speaker 1 Wait, Jerry,

Speaker 2 that's not for your son named eBay, is it? No.

Speaker 1 That's for your real son.

Speaker 11 See, one thing people don't understand is like, I never sell any of my autographs ever.

Speaker 1 I never have.

Speaker 11 It's just something I really appreciate. You know, this is mine too.

Speaker 1 You got two jerseys. Yeah, I got a couple of them.

Speaker 1 He's got a couple more things in the back.

Speaker 1 Look at that. Do you have the wristband, Jerry?

Speaker 5 I don't. I wish I bought it.

Speaker 2 Do you think that you're the best player in the NFL, defensive-wise? Like, if somebody were to say Aaron Donald was better than you, would you defend yourself with the same vigor?

Speaker 1 that Jerry defended. Here, do the cards out.

Speaker 1 That's the awesome cards.

Speaker 5 You let Jerry do it.

Speaker 5 Conversations like that are for the fans because I never want to get into a battle with someone about who's better, who's not. Who am I to say?

Speaker 5 I respect everybody in the NFL. It's never a personal attack at anybody.

Speaker 5 So that's why football is so cool and the fans are so cool because they get to go back and forth in a barbershop about it until their heads turn blue.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we do think that Aaron Donald's the best defensive player in the NFL. No.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 he's a monster counter. I love the laugh.

Speaker 11 I mean, it's just foolish, you know, and he'll tell you straight up. I think he will.
That year, you got snubbed from the defensive player of the year.

Speaker 2 That was ridiculous.

Speaker 11 I mean, you dismantled every category.

Speaker 5 I mean, it's not my vote.

Speaker 11 But you beat him in every statistic.

Speaker 5 No, but it doesn't do me any well to

Speaker 11 be upset about it. So, do you play with a chip on your shoulder because of that a little bit?

Speaker 5 A chip is always in the shoulder.

Speaker 1 There we go. Gotcha.
Bully ball. What do you got next, Jerry?

Speaker 11 Yeah, so obviously you know now, since you got drafted, I've been a huge supporter, big fan. Now, I've been messaging you over the years, and there it goes back for four or five years now.

Speaker 11 And, you know, you never really, you never actually responded until about this year, I would say. Did you ever see the messages? And if you've seen them, why didn't you respond?

Speaker 5 I swore I never saw it.

Speaker 1 I believe it. What were some of the messages? Did you have?

Speaker 5 Did you have like, because you have like

Speaker 5 messages and you have like general. It goes like

Speaker 5 secondary thing. Okay.
I don't go to see the secondary thing. Okay.

Speaker 5 But after I saw everything go down on like Twitter and stuff where it actually got to me, me, I went back and I looked and I would respond.

Speaker 2 Jerry's like, this is like if the song Stan had a happy ending, yeah, that's what I'm looking at right now.

Speaker 2 Like, Stan and Eminem just went off and became best pals.

Speaker 1 So, Jerry, what were some of the messages?

Speaker 11 You know, he would put up a picture.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, you can roll them up.

Speaker 5 I'll see if I can find somebody.

Speaker 1 I'd like to see a couple of them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I want to actually hear TJ read them because you might skip over some of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you definitely would.

Speaker 2 No, not going to say that one.

Speaker 1 I think you're nailing this so far. yeah

Speaker 1 I feel good I'm in the zone right what would you what would you give yourself as an interviewer no no all I have is back to this year October 11th wow so you know that means

Speaker 1 you might have you might have deleted me you might have deleted the oh no because I go back deep

Speaker 5 here here it here is one though you're eating you're eating enough protein right T right TJ just want to be sure don't skip any meals like to add a few more pounds before the playoff push best of luck this week I was like that motherfucker.

Speaker 1 I called you Scrawny.

Speaker 1 The amount of times I looked at that picture and I zoomed in and I go, damn, I do.

Speaker 1 He showed me it, too. He's like, look at this picture.
Does TJ look like he's lost a little weight? I was like, I don't know, Jerry.

Speaker 11 And he just put up a picture of these.

Speaker 11 I think they're like cinnamon twists or something like that. And I got on them.
I was like, hey, you know, that's not really bully food.

Speaker 2 Jerry, Jerry, I got a question for you. Yeah.
Those shorts that you're wearing right now.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Are those

Speaker 2 aren't the shorts from the train incident? Are they?

Speaker 11 They're washed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So those are

Speaker 2 the ones that you shit.

Speaker 1 They're washed, though, yeah. But dude,

Speaker 1 they're washed.

Speaker 2 Wait, so like the biggest day of your life, meeting like the athlete you look up to the most and you get ready for it and you put on your shit.

Speaker 11 Do you know how long it took me to get ready?

Speaker 5 How do they know that they're the shorts? How do people know that?

Speaker 11 You can see it in the video.

Speaker 2 Have you seen the video?

Speaker 5 Is this the sad day, bad day?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 Yes,

Speaker 11 the pooping your pants.

Speaker 1 I poop my pants, yes.

Speaker 11 But like, you know, like, I'm in the, I washed them because they're, they're not cheap, you know, and I don't like to really buy expensive clothes.

Speaker 11 But when I buy something that's a little bit more pricey, I like to, you know, keep it. So take care of it, yeah.
Yeah, I washed them. But it took me a long time to get ready today.

Speaker 5 It really did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of nerves.

Speaker 2 You have any more questions?

Speaker 1 Um, yeah.

Speaker 5 Did your mother ever find out about the Ash incident?

Speaker 11 No, never.

Speaker 5 Thank God. Never.
She doesn't have internet, so no one will ever show her.

Speaker 11 No, she doesn't have social media.

Speaker 1 Is she going to listen to this podcast?

Speaker 11 No.

Speaker 1 So if she listens to this podcast and finds out that you

Speaker 1 drop it, yeah, well, no, it's okay. I'll cover up for you.
You dropped your grandmother's ashes on the ground and had to vacuum some of them up.

Speaker 11 I mean, she'd be, I mean, I'd take my PS5 controllers away.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's probably where she would start.

Speaker 11 But okay, I want to talk about this really quick. Now,

Speaker 11 for me, growing up, the rivalry usually was always the Ravens. Now, Joe Burrows in the league, they're good.

Speaker 2 They're real good.

Speaker 11 That changed, I would assume. Is that like a game where you guys get up for the most now? Would be the Bengal?

Speaker 5 I don't know if it's getting up the most. Obviously, the Bengals, and I don't want to take anything away from the Ravens games.
Those are always huge games.

Speaker 5 I think it's just the AFC North is pretty stacked at quarterback in general now. So every game is a get-up game, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 No, I get it. Who's your favorite guy to hit? Ooh.

Speaker 5 The next quarterback.

Speaker 1 That was one of my answers.

Speaker 2 That's the right answer. That's the right answer.
But I also want to hear the real answer. What's the most satisfying hit?

Speaker 2 Maybe not your favorite guy to hit, but looking back on one particular hit that you've had that you're like, damn, that felt good. And it also, you could tell that it hurt the other guy.

Speaker 5 I don't know if it's like hurting. I think the ultimate is like a force sack

Speaker 5 or like sack force fumble fumble recovery.

Speaker 5 I had that against

Speaker 5 Fitzpatrick when he was with

Speaker 2 the Dolphins. Yeah, that's kind of elder abuse, though.
He's like

Speaker 1 old Harvard professor. I'm going to take some of the credit away from myself.

Speaker 2 I thought you were going to talk about the playoff one where you almost won Hank a lot of money. Oh, that was a nice play, too.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 5 you can't single money out, man. It's hitting anybody's fun.

Speaker 1 Do you have a when it comes to football?

Speaker 2 Is there one game that you look back on and you're like, that's my best game that I've played in the NFL so far?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 11 It quite possibly could have been

Speaker 11 week one. This week one.
Yeah, it could have been that. It could have been.

Speaker 5 But you said I don't come out at starting the season as bully ball, so how does that make sense?

Speaker 11 Just a look, just a look factor.

Speaker 2 At the time, we watched it together and Jerry was screaming, this is bully ball.

Speaker 1 TJ, you're beat a bully at the team. Well, there's also.

Speaker 2 Because you kind of won that game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, it was frustrating to feel like I had a great offseason.

Speaker 5 And then to be able to start out the season, the first game, how I did, and then to get hurt in one of the last plays of the the game was very unfortunate.

Speaker 5 But yeah, that's why I was trying to get back. And then when you come back, you're just trying to get back to that.
And it's hard to do that when you're coming off of an injury and not fully healthy.

Speaker 11 For sure. Now, there's a clip, a viral clip, about third quarter, six minutes left, Heinz Field,

Speaker 11 Baker Mayfield goes back for a pass. This is like a year or two ago.
He goes back for a pass, and you swat it down and you point to him, right?

Speaker 11 What did you say? Do you remember? Because

Speaker 11 it sounded like you said, you suck, bitch. No.

Speaker 5 No, he gets batted down a lot, so it was just something like you're going to have to fucking throw it over, throw it higher next time, bat down all day.

Speaker 1 Just something a little, but I'd be like a trash.

Speaker 1 I'm not pointing. Really? Not allowed to point because it's like, wow.

Speaker 2 Oh, I didn't know that. Can you gesture with like your whole hand, like a grand, you bitch?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. Now, I don't want to take anything away from Jerry here, but I technically have been a TJ Watt fan longer than he has.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, have has, I mean,

Speaker 11 that's fine. Keep going.

Speaker 1 It's true. It might be, it's, yeah, go.
Well, I mean, he played for my college team. I agree.

Speaker 11 I agree, Dan. Go.

Speaker 5 Yeah, last time we talked, we were trying to work on repairing the organ, the program.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 has Fickle reached out to you?

Speaker 1 No, he needed to get the Watt brothers back in the mix.

Speaker 5 I know JJ has had some connection with him. I haven't had any connection with him.

Speaker 5 I have a buddy who is in the offices up there, so I'm trying to get up there sometime this spring to just kind of meet everybody.

Speaker 5 There's so much excitement around the program that I just want to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 It's legitimately probably the most excited I've been since you guys were in school, since you and JJ and Derek. And sorry, Jerry, I mean, I didn't mean to.

Speaker 11 No, it's fine. It's your show.

Speaker 1 You're a bigger fan, but I've

Speaker 11 for the years. Of course, I understand.

Speaker 11 I just didn't want you to make me look like, hey, I'm just some flim flam fan.

Speaker 1 I don't think that that is what anyone will take away from this interview.

Speaker 1 That's fine. I don't don't think anyone's going to think that you're a flim flam fan.
Okay, I just want to make sure that.

Speaker 11 So we're on the same page. I got a couple more, not too many, though.

Speaker 11 Now, do you think it's beneficial for the Steelers organization to have me around at camp and do some, would you lobby for me to do some water work, keep the guys hydrated, you know, in the hot heat in the camp and stuff like that?

Speaker 11 You know, you guys are sweating. You guys are tired.
Jersey Jerry's there. He's hydrating you guys.
Do you think it's beneficial?

Speaker 2 You crapped your pants on a train, was it?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Catastrophe.

Speaker 5 How are you going to make it on the sideline through

Speaker 5 all the off-season heat?

Speaker 1 I'll be okay.

Speaker 2 That sounds like it was a food-related issue, though. Yeah, as long as you stick to like

Speaker 2 simple, like a dog getting over a sickness, you just eat like boiled white rice and hamburger meat, and I think your intestines should be good to eat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think I'd be good. Jerry,

Speaker 5 I think you would be a great asset, honestly, because it's all about energy and excitement.

Speaker 5 And I think more of us need to understand that we're living the dream and that we're here for a reason. I think that you would bring that to the sideline for for sure.

Speaker 1 Jerry also, he's said that he would leave all of Barstool. He'd leave everything to be a water boy.
Yeah. If it paid what, 50,000? 50K.
I don't think that's what water boys make.

Speaker 1 I don't know what they make. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I mean, I would leave, I would leave 50K. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I could raise a family. What's your selling points?

Speaker 11 For me,

Speaker 11 never late on time.

Speaker 11 I'm a big motivator. I'm a big fan of the Steelers organization.
I'm funny. I'm a little bit witty at times.

Speaker 11 But yeah, I'm just.

Speaker 1 I smell good.

Speaker 11 I smell great always. You know what I mean? And I'll just be a ride or die.
I'll be there for you guys.

Speaker 2 If anything breaks around the stadium, you can fix it too.

Speaker 11 Great point. Yeah.
I'm a union pipe fitter.

Speaker 1 There we go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shout out. Wait, are you still in the union?

Speaker 11 I was a union pipe fitter.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 You're like a handyman. You can fix anything.

Speaker 11 I can do anything usually. So if you ever need any, hey, Jerry, you know, I'm electric.
Come here, call. I'll come over.
All right.

Speaker 1 Take care.

Speaker 1 All right, what else you got, Jerry?

Speaker 11 Let's see here.

Speaker 11 What's it like to you to be a Steeler? Like,

Speaker 11 what does that mean to you?

Speaker 5 It's awesome.

Speaker 5 The people is what makes it so special. And it's not only just the fans.
Like I say, when you go to Giant Eagle, people will nudge you and say, good game, good luck. Why are we blitzing so damn much?

Speaker 5 Little things like that. And then as far as just like having the tradition, like I said,

Speaker 5 it's very unfortunate the passing of Franco, but he was around a lot. And that's what makes that play so special, as Coach Tomlin always says.

Speaker 5 The guys that come back, they don't want anything from you. They just want to be a part of it.
And they want to teach you this the other way.

Speaker 5 And I think that kind of encompasses what makes the legacy continue to grow and why we take so much weight of when we don't make the plays, when we don't perform, because we know what the city and the former players who paved the way deserve.

Speaker 11 For sure. Love it.

Speaker 11 And would you, could you, and I'm going to put you on the spot a little bit. Could you ever picture yourself in another uniform?

Speaker 1 No. I hope I never have to.
Love it. Love it.

Speaker 11 I made my day. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was it right there. That was the money shot.
Yep. All right, so TJ, the six-star whey protein, we got to get Jerry on it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you're committed, Jerry, you should be on a full training regimen.

Speaker 5 I would do it for that. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The TJ 90 method. Yeah.
Why don't we get TJ to send you a workout?

Speaker 11 Done.

Speaker 1 And then we'll do it and we'll chart your

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 if you don't perform, TJ is going to be let down. Of course.

Speaker 11 I'd do anything in my power to make this work.

Speaker 2 You're sort of killing yourself. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, I I won't do that.

Speaker 1 That will not be on the list of things in this office right now. Well, this has been a great interview.
TJ, thank you so much. We appreciate you stopping by.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, you guys can do dinner sometime. Yes, we still need to.
Yes,

Speaker 5 I texted you before we came here.

Speaker 1 I texted you before we came out here.

Speaker 5 I said, you're going to be out here. We should do dinner.

Speaker 1 And you kind of like left it out there.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 I've been saying for a while that Big Cat's been a big fan of TJ Watts for a while.

Speaker 1 You would go to dinner. I'm not a,

Speaker 11 you may not think this, but like, I'm not that that type of guy. I'm not going to put the pressure on you.
Like, hey, TJ, you still have to bring me to dinner.

Speaker 1 You know? I mean, you DM'd his wife to ask to play menu.

Speaker 11 I know. That's why I started with you.

Speaker 1 Those three years ago.

Speaker 1 That's why I started with.

Speaker 11 I'm not usually that type of guy. But hey, I mean, I'm free.
I'm free now. I'm free tonight.

Speaker 1 We might figure it out this weekend. Perfect.
Oh, hell yes. Done.
I'd like to come.

Speaker 1 Can you come?

Speaker 1 It's good to come and do this. Come to me.
All right, done. Done.
Can I come? Of course. Done.
Yeah. All right.
Love it. Well, TJ, thanks again, man.
Appreciate it. You made a young boy's dream today.

Speaker 1 Awesome. Jerry's going to be ear to ear for a while for this.

Speaker 2 I'm lucky he only has like six trading cards for you to sign.

Speaker 1 You're going to be here for a while.

Speaker 5 It's only three or four. That's it.

Speaker 5 In all honesty, though, I truly do appreciate it. I really do.

Speaker 1 I love it. I love it.
All right. Well, thanks so much, TJ.

Speaker 5 Thanks, guys.

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Speaker 1 okay let's wrap up super bowl week fire fest of the week it's been a great week been an awesome week yeah i love super bowl week yeah

Speaker 1 very fun well the mini golf was great mini golf was great thanks everyone for tuning in jake crushed it you guys crushed it everyone crushed it thank you we all crushed it

Speaker 6 my first time uh being in in in the truck for a big broadcast like that, it was chaos.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Did Jake thank you at the end of the show?

Speaker 1 Of course. Class act.
Constant professional. In the truck.

Speaker 1 Not individually, but just the truck.

Speaker 2 One of my favorite things about Jake was after the Arizona Bowl was over and we were getting ready to leave.

Speaker 2 We had to wait for Jake to get into the car because he was making a point to walk around and thank everybody in the truck for all their help during the broadcast.

Speaker 5 You got to go in the truck after the game. It's a class act, through and through.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Firefest, Hank.

Speaker 6 Firefest, we went out to dinner last night after mini golf. Dave took a bunch of like, basically it was like 20 people out to dinner.
Very nice steakhouse.

Speaker 6 I had fried lobster for the first time in my life. It's all I've been thinking about.
It was the most delicious thing I've ever ate.

Speaker 1 Oh, that sounds great. So did you?

Speaker 6 So there was, yeah, a lot of great food, a lot of good wine.

Speaker 6 At the very end of the night, it was like 11.45. We were there for probably three and a half hours.

Speaker 6 Brandon Walker and his wife got up and just left. They didn't really even say goodbye.
They just kind of walked out. Brandon left $20 on his chair, which was wild.
And then

Speaker 6 Caleb and Will walked out shortly after, but they kind of dapped everyone up and then walked out. And I was going out with them after.

Speaker 6 I went to the bathroom, came back, and Dave was, and everyone was like, I can't believe they left before the bill came out. That's crazy, disrespectful move.

Speaker 6 I was like, yeah, that is kind of a wild move. At the time, I thought Dave was like paying for the bill and had paid for the bill at that point.

Speaker 6 I was a little drunk, and then I left.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 6 I acknowledged how crazy of a move it was, walked out, got in the cat, got in the car with them, and then I was getting texted, like, did you actually just leave? And I was like, it kind of hit me.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, boy. I also left.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So, you know, disrespectful move by me. Obviously, got a lot of heat for it on the internet.

Speaker 6 Big mistake, big fire fest. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was a big mistake. Did you leave $20 on your chair?

Speaker 6 I got banned from going to dinners for 10 years.

Speaker 2 Did you leave money on your chair?

Speaker 6 I did not leave money on the chair.

Speaker 2 That's actually almost worse, is to leave 20 bucks on your chair. So then somebody has to pick up your like butt sweat 20 that's barely going to make a dent.
No, he left on the table.

Speaker 6 They were like, did Brandon leave? And they're like, well, he left $20 on the table. So I think that was his sign that he left.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 The old Mississippi exit. Nice tip.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your fire fest?

Speaker 2 So my fire fest is last night I went out to kind of an industry party, meet up with some old friends there, and it was

Speaker 2 something shocking happened to me. I'm still not entirely sure that it really occurred, but I was having a conversation with a good friend, Mark Titus.

Speaker 2 He was there, and he can vouch for all this as being the God's honest truth. First of all, I was at a party that was hosted by Cowturd.

Speaker 2 He came up to me, we shook hands,

Speaker 2 instantly got into a debate about soup in front of like very high-powered media executives that were like, What the hell are these guys talking about?

Speaker 2 He told this long story about what a fan of soup he was, how he ate soup every day at ESPN for like seven, eight years.

Speaker 2 and then uh later on he saw me outside and we we rekindled the soup debate so we've we've got into two separate soup debates now um but the the most shocking part of the night was when I was talking to Mark and we're having a conversation about God knows what and all of a sudden I feel somebody like grab the back of my elbow and my arm and give it like a pinch and like a little tickle and so I turn around

Speaker 2 And Shannon Sharp's behind me. And Shannon Sharp just tickled my arm and then turned his back and walked away.
He got you. And then I don't know Shannon Sharp.
He doesn't know me as far as I know.

Speaker 2 He got you. I don't know if he thought I was a woman from behind because

Speaker 1 I do have the hair.

Speaker 2 But I looked at Titus and I go, did Shannon Sharp just tickle the back of my arm and then walk away?

Speaker 2 And Titus was like, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, he did. And then I just stood there like, did anybody else think that this is really weird? What just happened? And then Shannon.
You were caked up.

Speaker 1 What's that? What were you wearing? What is it my fault? Yeah, you're known. It's too provocative.

Speaker 2 I did have the goods dumped out. I had some pretty tight jeans on.
I got a nice ass. So you might have seen that.
I was wearing a polo shirt. So, like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't think I look that attractive from behind as a female. I'm much more attractive as a female from the front.
And so he just

Speaker 2 walked away. And then I was just left there in a position where I don't know what to do with myself.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 I think Shannon likes me. Yeah, he definitely likes me.
I think he likes me. So, Shannon,

Speaker 2 let's hang out sometime. Hit it up.
Have a couple cases of Mountain Dew together. Hit it up.

Speaker 1 I love that. Unk, right?

Speaker 2 That's what they call him. I do understand why LeBron James is like,

Speaker 2 nobody should fuck with Unk because I think he could have kicked everybody's ass at that part. He's a very big dude.
He's a big dude. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I think Shannon's got the hots for me. Damn.

Speaker 1 All right. That's, I mean, we got to have him on the show.
Be like, what were you doing?

Speaker 2 Yeah, what was up with that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why were you tickling me? Maybe. Why was another man tickling you?

Speaker 2 It might just be best that we never had to do that. It was like,

Speaker 6 it was definitely, there's no percent chance it was accidental contact. It was not.
It was not like a full pinch.

Speaker 2 It was a hand that grabbed the back of my arm and then fingers that manipulated the back of my arm.

Speaker 1 I think he probably thought you were a woman and then realized you weren't, and that's why he turned his back.

Speaker 2 It's happened before. At a supermarket one time, I turned around and this guy was looking at my ass, and then he looked up and he was like, oh, no.

Speaker 1 What have I done? We went out to dinner in Vegas, and the waitress said, we have miss.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, she was behind. She was from behind me.

Speaker 1 And we laughed hard. Yeah, well, you know what? Like, it's fine.

Speaker 2 It's fine. It's just, if I were to, like, power rank all the media people that would have come up to try to tickle the back of my arm, I don't think I'd have Shannon Sharp in the top 300.

Speaker 1 No. Although, maybe he gets down like that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, listen, no disrespect, Shannon.

Speaker 1 No. No, calm.
It's all love. All right, my Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 i was pretty close to getting arrested this morning i don't know if i've told anyone here this story i was pretty close to getting arrested this morning so i went so i've been going to the gym every morning trying to keep whatever weight i mean it's not even keeping it off because i'm drinking beers and eating like shit so i've been going to the gym every morning i have a membership in Brooklyn that has it's a national gym so I've been just hitting up like there's it's basically like go any direction from our hotel and there's one of these gyms So I've been going to different ones.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, why not check it out, right? So I go to the gym this morning. I do my workout.
I go to the hot tub, which is on a pool deck. So you got to wear a bathing suit.

Speaker 1 So I get in my bathing suit. I go out to the pool deck.
I sit in the hot tub for 20 minutes. I go back to take a shower.
I'm in the, right when you walk in, it's like, oh, just a row of showers.

Speaker 1 I turn on the shower and I go to take off my bathing suit. My hands are on my bathing suit as I'm taking it it off.
And a woman turns the corner. Yeah.
And I was in the women's bathroom

Speaker 1 and she looked at me and I was like, oh my fucking God, and just ran out of there. But I was like, my hands were on my bathing suit to take my bathing suit off.

Speaker 1 She was two seconds late, one second later, and I would have just been standing there naked, about to get in the shower. I would have been in a lot of trouble, I feel like.

Speaker 2 You know what? I think it happens more than you would realize.

Speaker 1 But to the shower, I've done this before, where you walk into a bathroom like an airport and you're like where are the urinals oh fuck

Speaker 1 i'm in the showers like i'm eating that's not good you're pretty deep in there yeah i did that one time at a gym in new york too and then i just i panicked and you got to get the hell out oh i got out so fast she was thankfully wearing a bathing suit and she was wearing it was a one-piece bathing suit which gives off major like i'm putting you in jail vibes yeah there's a bikini i feel like i may maybe i could have gotten out of there without but like she she probably would have dropped a hammer on me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And if she would been nude, that would have even been, I think I would have been worse.
Yeah. Because then I would have definitely been, I would have at least had to speak to the police.

Speaker 2 So you'd be able to talk your way out of that one, probably.

Speaker 1 I also am such an idiot because, you know, like the urinal thing is a context clue. I walked into the shower well and I was like, this looks pretty clean.
Just kept on walking.

Speaker 1 Then I saw like the, in the shower was like a can of shaving cream for sensitive skin. And I was was like, oh, you know, maybe, maybe because it's so hot.
Guys shower. Guys, guys.

Speaker 6 She's in the shower all the time.

Speaker 1 It was like an orange can of sensitive skin shaving

Speaker 1 cream. And then once I saw her, I was like, you're a fucking idiot.
All these context clues are pretty obvious. You know,

Speaker 2 every time I go into a women's bathroom, by mistake, and it's probably only happened like three or four times over the course of my life. You do realize that their bathrooms are way cooler than mine.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 They've got stalls everywhere. The urinals really junk up the place.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, and and again like who hasn't walked into a women's bathroom but i was i turned the shower on i was standing outside my shower yeah like you can't get more into a women's locker room than the shower maybe she thought she was in the wrong bathroom it was she didn't say anything i just started scurrying like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry but yeah that would have been a really bad way to start the day that'd be tough if i had had to walk my way out of that it'd be wow michael irvin Dan Katz.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Both kicked out of me.

Speaker 1 Super Bowl week. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Fuck. Also, did you hear Mike Irvin's apology? No.
Well, that's because he didn't apologize. Okay, yeah, I wouldn't expect it to.

Speaker 2 He went on the radio and they asked him, like, why did you get sent home, Mike? And he goes, well, I had a few drinks, and then I got back to the hotel lobby, and apparently I said something.

Speaker 2 I don't even remember the conversation, though. So I don't know.
I definitely didn't say anything like too bad, but I don't even remember talking to anybody. And then they showed me the video.

Speaker 2 And yeah, there I was talking to a woman, but I don't remember. So he's pulling out the don't remember doesn't count to yeah, didn't happen.

Speaker 1 Didn't happen. All right, Jake, finish this off.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I have a few quick ones. First up, from the mini golf broadcast yesterday, I asked, I was giving some context on where we were.

Speaker 5 It was Golfland Sunsplash in Mesa, Arizona, 22 minutes from downtown Phoenix, and 36 minutes from State Fart Stadium.

Speaker 3 You said State Fart?

Speaker 2 I was like, Yeah, you said I was just like

Speaker 5 State Fart, and it sounded like fart.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God, that's gonna be a chip on the shoulder from a home, still.

Speaker 1 So that's not my greatest

Speaker 5 nothing going on the reel, but I think the listeners got some laughs out of it. That was the point.

Speaker 2 As long as you have your antenna up when you have to read the words bulging disc, that's a big one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Great work with Penultimate, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Obviously. Number two,

Speaker 5 we have an upcoming interview coming out with Max Homa. We hit at this cage behind.

Speaker 1 I choked.

Speaker 2 It was bad.

Speaker 5 Rubber T three times. I heard.
Really bad. It was really bad.
So I just want to get ahead of that so that no one's surprised by it.

Speaker 1 So he hit pop.

Speaker 5 That is not my regular golfing, but under pressure it is, and I have no excuses.

Speaker 6 That video will be on the Instagram today. The one good thing to take away from that is it wasn't

Speaker 1 worried Max, yes.

Speaker 1 Max just choked up. But no one expects Max to golf.

Speaker 2 Max choked up and he looked like he was going to bunt.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But Max Homa has.

Speaker 1 Max golfs like a Flintstone. I would imagine.

Speaker 2 I think I said that you're like a caveman. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Max Homa has seen my regular swing, so.

Speaker 2 No, it doesn't come. Well, no, that's your regular swing now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, until further notice.

Speaker 1 Under Brighton. You deserve the criticism.

Speaker 5 And And finally.

Speaker 1 And they were your own golf clubs? No, it was just dented driver.

Speaker 5 Yeah, this dented driver out here. But my fault.

Speaker 2 Does that make a difference? Sounds like

Speaker 1 no excuses.

Speaker 2 Oh, sounds like no excuse. Except it's a dented driver and it's not your normal swing.

Speaker 5 Correct. Okay.

Speaker 5 Finally, I forgot to remind you to call the bowling guy on Wednesday show.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck. Yeah, well, you weren't on the show.
All right. Yeah, but I still go text him, so that's my fault.

Speaker 1 I saved his number.

Speaker 5 I feel like there's a realistic chance because it's been the nights the last few times. Yeah.
Yeah. This is only 6 p.m.
local or 6 p.m. Eastern.

Speaker 1 Got his number saved.

Speaker 5 Ready to go.

Speaker 5 Was it the U.S.

Speaker 1 Bowling Congress?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Bulling Congress.

Speaker 1 He's ducking us. He might be blocked.

Speaker 5 He's ducking us. No, I would go right to voicemail.

Speaker 1 I think it's an office phone. Oh.
He's ducking us.

Speaker 1 Welcome, Joe. Motherfucker.
All right. Well, the quest continues.

Speaker 2 Move on to Sunday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. And if God forbid the Eagles lose, you're going to ream this guy.
Oh, if he enters Sunday.

Speaker 2 I have a prediction that's this guy's not picking up anymore. This guy better be reaming.

Speaker 1 No, I agree. We haven't called.
So the only thing I would say is we have not called during regular business hours. So that's the only thing that we make.

Speaker 5 Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 So maybe that's it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Great Super Bowl week.
Great episode, boys. We'll be back right here on Sunday night.
Either some of of us very happy or some of us very sad.

Speaker 1 Let's kick it to ourselves. Hank, have you ever gotten the lottery ball number?

Speaker 1 Have you?

Speaker 1 Are you going to answer me? I do.

Speaker 6 What? I answer it.

Speaker 1 What'd you say? Shortly. No, no, but have you ever gotten it before? This is a repeat.
Yeah, but have you ever gotten it? It's not a repeat.

Speaker 1 Actually, one of the camera guys yesterday stopped the broadcast, put his camera down. He's like, hey, can you ask Hank real quick if he's ever gotten the lottery ball?

Speaker 6 That's actually true, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, 100% true. Yeah, yes, yes, it was awesome because I thought he had like something serious to tell me.
Um, have you? No, okay, well, let's find out if you do right now. Okay, end of the show,

Speaker 1 getting ready for the Super Bowl. You just listened to the whole Super Bowl preview.
It's still February 3rd, though. Hank, have you gotten this

Speaker 1 lottery ball machine number?

Speaker 1 No, oh, interesting.

Speaker 2 Are you sure?

Speaker 1 Yes, just done three times in a row. All right, number 17.

Speaker 1 18.

Speaker 2 Did you even say a number, Billy? That was just.

Speaker 1 Is it 16?

Speaker 2 65.

Speaker 10 20.

Speaker 6 Hey. 16.

Speaker 1 16.

Speaker 6 Gonna spread my wings.

Speaker 2 Can I change my number?

Speaker 1 Go. No.

Speaker 1 Overruled by hand. What was your number?

Speaker 1 PFT, what was your number?

Speaker 1 77.

Speaker 2 It wasn't that.

Speaker 1 Did you guess 77 at some point?

Speaker 6 No, I thought that was 77.

Speaker 1 Third time. Oh, man.

Speaker 6 Fuck this.

Speaker 2 Love you guys.

Speaker 2 day.

Speaker 2 Drain on the

Speaker 2 gone.

Speaker 2 Things like the singing

Speaker 2 of all. Just play the word anyway.

Speaker 2 You all feel tapped up to them. Be shy and away.

Speaker 2 Love coming for you, many ways. Be a shy and away.

Speaker 2 Love's coming for you, many ways.