Lane Johnson, TJ Watt, NBA Trade Deadline + Super Bowl Preview & Picks

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have a twofer for the people. We have Lane Johnson from the Philadelphia Eagles getting ready for Super Bowl 57.
We also maybe get a little bit of intel on what they're going to be drinking on the sidelines, but great interview with Lane. And then we have one of the more unique interviews we've ever done on Pardon My Take.
TJ Watt, recurring guest. We figured, let's make it a little interesting.
Our good friend Jersey Jerry sat in the interview. He led most of the questions.
They were very, very funny. A super fan interviewing his idol while we moderated.
So that was very, very fun. We're going to do our favorite prop bets.
We're going to talk about the big game. Maybe a little KD to the Suns as the NBA tried to hijack Super Bowl week, which I didn't appreciate.
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Bite! Okay, let 10th. And super bowl 57 we made it it's been a long season it has the longest nfl season ever by days ever uh i think we'd be remiss though if we didn't start out the show by congratulating chris paul and the phoenix sun winning the 2023 NBA championship.
Yes. Congratulations.
Yes. It's his year.
Like, honestly, if you look at that team right now, the big three, we had the news that broke in the middle of the night, which what a rush for those of us that stayed up. Yeah.
Thank God we were on Mountain Time. Mountain Time's legit.
They shipped KD out of town. He's a son.
I feel like this is going to be his year. Well, he already was.
I feel like this has got to be his mom he's a son for sure it's got to be his year he's a star too he's a star too um yeah maybe it's his year it's got to be maybe there's no way that they lose so i was thinking about it because last night i was like should i bet on the suns now and the price went crazy it was like i think they're like five to one or six to one and then i thought about it a little bit harder and I was thinking about it because last night I was like, should I bet on the Suns now? And the price went crazy.

I think they're like 5-1 or 6-1.

And then I thought about it a little bit harder, and I was like, wait.

So the Suns are really good right now.

They traded away some really good players.

So their bench players, their bench is not great.

And they're going to rely on a 35-year-old guy

who's been injured a lot since his Achilles.

And Chris Paul in the playoffs.

Hmm.

I don't see where this goes wrong.

Hmm.

I don't either.

It's in.

The only wrench in the system is that AJ Titties is pregnant,

so she's probably not back to her old tricks.

Well, when does the baby do?

Actually, that's a good point.

You probably know.

Let's see, nine months ago.

I think it's probably in the next couple months. So, yeah, she might be back in mid-season form.
She'll be back. Yeah, the trade deadline, the NBA trade deadline did their best to hijack Super Bowl week, which that's fine.
I mean, they got to get what they get, you know? Yeah. But, yeah, we obviously had the Kyrie.
We had Kevin Durant going to the Suns. The Sixers made a move.
Who else made moves? There's a couple other. Oh, Pat Beverly going to the Magic.
Russell Westbrook going to the Jazz. It's probably his desired destination, right? Yeah, that's got to hurt.
We also, because we taped early on Tuesday. Mike Conley going to the Timberwolves.
Mike Conley going to the Timberwolves. D'Angelo Russell going to the Lakers.
So a lot of moves back and forth. Feels like wide open league.
Everyone's taking a shot in the Western Conference. We obviously taped early on Tuesday.
We talked about LeBron breaking his record. We should mention he broke it in a loss to the Thunder.
And also we had Anthony davis uh proudly i i i respect him standing up to lebron james and not uh sitting there and showing no emotion when lebron broke the record and you might be like wait why why would he do that well because it was like 24 hours before that lebron tried to trade anthony davis for kevin durant yep so yeah it might backfire a little bit when you want to trade everyone on your team. Although Anthony Davis, now that I'm thinking about it, he should have known that could have happened because he literally got traded to the Lakers when LeBron tried to trade his entire team.
Yeah, it's like you got cheated on. If you start a relationship with somebody that's in a relationship, don't be surprised when they cheat on you later.
Yes. Soony he sat on the bench he did stand up for the ceremony when they when they gave the ball to lebron and in um a really a poignant quote it was touching lebron james with the microphone fuck man thank you guys fucking a man that's actually that's probably the coolest thing he's ever said he's fucking a man wait fuck fuck men thank men.
Thank you, guys, is what he said. There was a lot of trade action, though.
I feel like every team made at least a deal. Did the Celtics do anything? Not, they picked up one guy, but nothing crazy.
Blake of the year, Blake Griffin had a great quote after the game. He made, what, three threes? He had a great game, yeah.
Yeah, he had a great game, made three threes. The Sixers made zero adjustments to counteract for Blake's long-range shooting and he said no disrespect but you know I thought that they were going to maybe make some adjustments start to guard me uh but they didn't make any adjustments no disrespect though yeah that was great when you book into statement with doubled no disrespects and it that's that's actually that's the most disrespect that you can give to somebody and and uh on like the bottom line it said blake griffin aka steph curry which is great i like that yeah it was awesome um also mike muscala what mike muscala yeah sounds like a baseball player yeah um we had uh josh hartz going to to meet up with jalen brunson villanova love in new york yeah it feels like there were so many trades a good it's good when there's an exciting trade.
Yes. NFL, nothing ever happens.
MLB, sometimes it's crazy, sometimes it's not. NBA, I feel like, usually isn't as nuts as it was.
I think outside of the playoffs, the NBA trade deadline is the best week of the NBA calendar year. Free agency.
Yeah. Well, embrace the bait.
I don't know. There was a lot of drama this year, Jake.
I don't know. Yeah, this year maybe, but I'd say overall.
I also appreciate the Nets doing, let's see if we can get the most amount of picks. I think the trade that they made today after the Kevin Durant trade, I think they got five second-round picks, which is far too many second-round picks to have.
Those are just future trades. like you don't those are yeah just toss-ins they're like gift bags for future trades five second round picks you might as well be like here here's nothing it's no here's the most nothing that we could possibly give you it's like when you get someone a present you're like was this enough let me just throw in like a gift card yeah or like a edible arrangement or you put it in a giant bag that's stuffed with tissue paper yeah right that right.
That's kind of what it was. I think we even said on part of my take on Wednesday, what if something happens where Jay Crowder gets moved in a Kevin Durant deal? So I think we might have called that before it happens.
Are we Shams guys or are we Woj Bomb guys? Because I feel like Shams had the KD news, right? Shams has everything. Yeah.
It's Shams. Shams? Yeah, Shams.
And yeah, I think we're Shams guys. I think we're going to be Shams.
That news broke down the trade numbers. Woj had 11.
Shams had 10. Oh, but who had the most significant ones? That one, the KD news counts as three.
I think Shams had Kyrie too. Yeah, well then that's a clear sweep.
Quality versus quantity. Yeah, that's, I mean, come on.
If you have kd and kyrie trades on your resume i don't care that woge got like jacob podal or whatever he got traded yeah it's yakub portal yakub no i said jacob podal yeah um that's how you say his name either way he got traded somewhere where do you get traded to who cares siberia yeah yeah oh i think the raptors yeah the raptors go you know what raptors watch out for the raptors yeah you know what the saddest news is i think that was like right after the kd trade happened yeah and woge knew he got beat so he's like fuck i gotta empty the chamber and he just just floods the timeline with the inconsequential stuff yeah he's like okay at least i'm on the scoreboard right now they got to be rolling around during this week with probably six seven cell phones it's got to be just an abundance of battery going nuts because you got to have you have your charge game on point who did the nets who did the nets get five second round picks for i love just jay crowder was jay crowder that's yeah that's brutal to have that be your trade value yep because it doesn't matter they could have done what's the difference between five second round picks and 15 second round picks there's none none. It's like shrewd box.
It's just like here. You just take.
You know what? It's actually better. We can probably fire half of our scouting department.
Well, if I was. Yeah.
If I was an NBA GM, I would not want. That's just a lot of work that you have to do.
You just have a paperwork. You have to sift through a lot of film.
You have to watch for a second round guy. It's like, no, if it's not.
If it's not a top 15 pick, I don't want it. No it no if you have if you have five second round picks that means that you now have to open up an office in estonia yeah like you're you're gonna have to just go and find those guys overseas i would say if you have five second round picks all that means is that you got fleeced in a previous trade right and that's what you have but jay crowder i think is the very definition of a nice piece to have yeah he's a good piece on a good team jay crowder is a guy that you want it's like him mike conley two very good peace guys wait i think mike conley is better than a piece guy yeah you you you you are high you you do overrate jay crowder i like jay crowder yeah i think jay crowder is a quintessential like he'll hit two threes and then he'll take 10 more i think it's the hair yeah the hair makes every when you see dude with long hair like that, that's built like a brick shithouse like he is when that dude has a stroke from three, I will automatically overvalue.
I'm like, this guy can do it all. Yeah, he does.
He does have sick hair. Um, all right.
So yeah, NBA trade deadline came and went, maybe we'll have her still on in a couple of weeks. He can cry about how Chris Paul, if Chris Paul doesn't win it now, this is a legacy.
This is a legacy year Rosillo and his son yeah this is it this is you said it right it's a legacy season now for Chris Paul but I I honestly don't see a way that he loses it also was funny that after um the Kyrie like dust settled and everyone tried to figure out what deals were offered the sons did offer Chris Paul for Kyrie yeah Yeah. So that means that Chris Paul and Kyrie, like, that has to kill Rasilo because he does not like Kyrie.
No. And he loves Chris Paul like a son.
So now I think if the season ended today, which would be shocking if that happened. That would be definitely weird.
I think the Suns and the Mavericks would play in the first round of the playoffs. So I need that.
Yeah. I need that so badly.

Because you know, too, that they'll do a long embrace. And people are like, are they going to team up again? Okay, so.
Is Kyrie to the Suns? I've been thinking about Kyrie because you know how you've said he is your favorite basketball player's favorite basketball player? Correct. I think it's just a matter of appreciating Kyrie from a distance is awesome.
But once you get in the same room

When you have to like share hotels with him

When you have to be on the bus all the time with Kyrie even then when you're with him day after day I think that's when it starts to grate on you but like from across the league you can watch and be like yeah that dude rocks but even then like Nick Claxton came out and said that Kyrie is his favorite teammate he's ever had I think he just I think guys just like him and it's just a disconnect with the media where they don't understand that NBA locker rooms like Kyrie is his favorite teammate he's ever had. I think he just, I think guys just like him.
And it's just a disconnect with the media where they don't understand that NBA locker rooms like Kyrie. And yes, he is.
Like, if you asked any basketball player over 6'7", and you're like, what would you like? If you could pick anyone's game, they'd be like, yeah, I wish I was Kyrie. I didn't have to like bang down low.
I could just be awesome with with dribbling and shooting and finishing at the rim but I think if you ask other teammates that he played with you'd probably get a lot of people being like I hate that guy no I mean Tatum and Jalen Brown love them yeah yeah no that's that's the crazy part I think there's like a major major disconnect where everyone in sports media is like how could you ever want to be teammates with Kyrie and then everyone he plays was like we love Kyrie so he must be a cool dude to hang out if I was his teammate I wouldn't like him okay I'm just gonna say that okay all right well until you met him and then you'd probably be like this guy's cool he would take all my shots yeah he's I mean it it is like almost universe I don't I can't remember like is there anyone been very outspokenly anti-Kyrie who's played with him?

Maybe a couple guys, but it is very overwhelming guys like Kyrie.

And then everyone sits in media and is like, how could you like this guy?

I don't know, dude.

We're not NBA players.

We're the best players in the world.

Yeah, and we're not in that locker room, so we have no fucking clue.

I would like to congratulate the Nets, though, on assembling the biggest bust of any dream team ever yeah i think this you know cool throne twice that that eagles team where vince young came out and said we're the dream team right now that's usually the kiss of death the uh the nets have now done it twice and somehow they managed to surpass their last big blow up yes there's just something with that organization i don't know they did a bad job of putting like the weirdest players together in a locker room and expecting them to get along although now it's been simmons team yeah this time it's actually better than the last time because the last time they traded for their dream team this time they just got them to sign with them yeah so they actually have picks and talent they have pretty much every wing player in the nba now they're they are going to we're going to find out you know like the old why don't they build the whole plane out of the black box yeah like why don't they build an entire nba team out of wing players we'll find out it's joe harris season yeah we'll find out it would be cool though if so they've got all those second round picks all you have to do is just hit on one euro guy yeah you just have to go out to your get your janice yeah janice was a first round pick was he yeah i thought it was second round yeah yeah but that's oh i was thinking about yokich yeah get your yokich yeah get a it's very easy yeah um all right ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has ariat ariat work jackets and boots are packed with all the cold stopping waterproof protection you need to get the job done under any conditions so you can take any job out there and always deliver. Check out Ariat in your local workwear retailer or visit Ariat.com slash work to get 10% off your first order when you sign up for email and weather whatever in Ariat work gear.
Super Bowl 57. Let's go boys.
Let's start with with should we start with game predictions or what we think is going to happen then we can talk about our props I got I got birds by six okay so the thing that's making me most nervous and this is a thought we have to get all the bad thoughts out uh is there a world in five years time where we're sitting at a bar and we're saying the sentence remember when patrick mahomes was an underdog to jalen hurts in the super bowl that was fucking stupid well uh that is my worst nightmare and that's all that's just been ringing around in my stupid dumb dog brain i have seen uh this take floating around out there it's bubbling online this is how you can tell that we're getting just too far into super bowl media week and we need the game to happen somebody said yeah patrick mohams is the best quarterback but if you're looking at all the best traits in a quarterback to have you want a guy like jalen hurts instead of like patrick mahomes nice which is uh i mean now we're in some galaxy brain level shit where we've officially we've scraped the bottom of our brains and we've really we've eaten all the meat off the bone that is the super bowl if we're getting to the point where we're saying yeah jalen hurts rather have him on my team than patrick it's it's the the thing that you know chiefs fans get upset at us about when they're like you don't talk enough about patrick holmes what else is there to talk about besides that he's the best quarterback in the NFL?

He is the best quarterback in the NFL.

It's not a debate.

It's a fact.

And that is what scares me the most about Sunday.

And I love watching him play.

Yeah.

He's a joy to watch play quarterback. When he's locked in, he's awesome.

But I keep just going back to the guy off.

I just keep having like a room off in my brain.

And the only room is quarterback and tight end that I think favors the Chiefs.

So I'm going to roll with the birds. So that thought is in my brain.
And the only room is quarterback and tight end that I think favors the chiefs. So I'm going to,

I'm going to roll with the birds.

So,

so here's some,

so that thought is in my brain.

I have things that counteract that thought, the guy off the,

like all the positions,

trench warfare.

I actually,

I went to Bert Kreischer show,

a comedy show,

and there was the chief,

the whole chiefs offensive line was there.

And I had a few beers.

I might've started barking a little.

I don't know if that's good or bad,

but I was like,

there's some dogs coming after you.

And they're like,

Thank you. and there was the whole Chiefs offensive line was there, and I had a few beers.
I might have started barking a little. I don't know if that's good or bad, but I was like, there's some dogs coming after you, and they're like, what are you talking about, dude? Like, we're trying to enjoy a comedy show, and I was like, yeah.
And I also asked him if Matt Nagy was a creep, and they're like, he's our coach. No.
Yeah. So that was a swing and a miss.
0 for 2 for me. Well, wait.
So what you're saying is that the Chiefs offensive line was out partying during Super Bowl week seltzers i checked oh wow it was i was upset because i was like why don't you have a beer oh no like what kind of stuff you mean alcoholic no no no unfortunately they were and they all looked very sober okay in that case it hurt in that case i'm just gonna say they're distracted yeah but dogs are coming the dogs are distracted this week and so you didn't see any eagles at that game right they're studying the playbook exactly but it is it is also just a true testament to how stupid alcohol can make your brain feel where i walked up to the chiefs offensive line in the green room after and i was like eagles coming yeah just like who the fuck are you dude yeah uh i'm i'm feeling confident in the eagles what because we know yeah right Yeah. An idiot.
No, like, no, like, we know the Eagles are coming. Yeah, yeah.
But no, but I was like, I think I might have even barked a little, which is embarrassing to think back to. There's been an online hoax going around, too.
The script. The script has been put out there, according to an anonymous Twitter account that claims that they read it on Pro Football Reference.
Okay. So this went mega viral.
It said that the game, they had the game score on the entire game page had been updated on Pro Football Reference and said the final score is going to be Eagles 37, Chiefs 34. Now, a lot of people are saying that it's just a manipulated Photoshop screenshot, but it went super viral to the point where Vegas was taking so many bets on the exact score, 37 to 34.
It went from plus 2,500 all the way down. Excuse me, it went all the way from plus 8,000 down to plus 2,500 because so many dumbasses out there thought that this was a legit screenshot.
I mean, that would be an instant classic Super Bowl. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, can you imagine if it happened? Yeah.
It would be incredible. So, yeah, the offensive-defensive line advantages for the Eagles are, I don't want to say significant because the Chiefs defensive line has some fucking really, really good players.
But I think that's like the equalizer with the Patrick Holmes Jalen Hurts. There is one level of disrespect, though, that I think could be motivating.
I think we've gotten to the point where we've talked so much about how much better that Eagles defensive line is than the Chiefs offensive line. That the Chiefs offensive line might go out there and have like the game of their life.
Because that's all you've heard've heard right and they've had like random dudes coming up to them at comedy shows and barking at well people play the disrespect card a lot and i think they overuse it all the time in this case it probably if you're a chiefs office alignment you're probably especially getting barked at yeah you've that probably that might be the tipping point where it's like hey they pay us to play football too yeah i might good. That's a fact.
That's a fact. You can't bark at a man and expect him not to bite.
Let me put a little bit of context. Orlando Brown Jr.
did come up to me and say, what's up? I think he's a listener. And there's a couple of listeners on the Chiefs offensive line.
So it wasn't totally unsolicited. Okay.
Once they knew who I was, I was like, you know what? Now I'm going to start barking. I'm just saying that they do feel like they're the most disrespected I agree all right so I have a couple other numbers that help push down the negative thoughts first one Mahomes is wearing a white uniform for the first time in the playoffs can he win with the road uniform we don't know we don't know I don't think but also counterpoint I think the white uniforms in like the last 26 years 28 years 11 and 11 and 17 i believe is the stat wait it's 11 and 17 so that it's one good it's one way or the other i forget if it's a good thing or a bad 11 17 that would be good white uniforms no white uniforms win so it's 17 and 11 17 and 11 yeah okay so that's whatever.
Okay, that's just noise. I'm going to use selective choice of noise.
That's noise. That's irrelevant.
Patrick Mahomes also has 56 interceptions in his career. What Super Bowl is this? 57.
He might throw a pick. He'd pick six at the end.
Would have walked off that would be. Two touchdowns four interceptions his career in the Super Bowl.
Whoa. Patrick Mahomes can't win the big one.
Hank, what's that? I know. Obviously, everyone's talking about Brady, and they put that set up, and it's like, this is the guy.
Yeah. Okay, so that's where it came from.
Two and four. The other one that I had was in this Super Bowl, it will be the seventh time the passing leader, so passing yards leader, is in the Super Bowl, and they are 0-6.
So Tom Brady in 2017, Peyton Manning in 2013, the Denver-Seattle Super Bowl, Tom Brady in 2007 against the Giants, Rich Gannon against the Bucs, Kurt Warner against the Patriots, and Dan Marino niners okay so so the the quarterback who's had the most passing yards in that season has not won the super bowl yet interesting interesting and some people are pointing to the fact that that chiefsaholic may have been released from prison yes on bail billy's pointing that out you say you say that you say that would favor the chiefs because their biggest super fan is out of prison I I think it's the other way around. I think that if they want any chance in this, they were going to use that to like, we have to free Chiefs the Hallock by winning his future for him.
That way he'll be able to post bail. But no, no.
I think that actually having Chiefs the Hallock out is going to be a detriment to the Chiefs. That was the first we had heard from Billy all week.
He's like, hey, do you guys want to interview Chiefs the Hallolic? And I was like, good thought, but I'd really only want to ask about how he robbed banks. And I'd assume if he's out on bail, he's probably not going to talk about that.
Well, his lawyer would probably strongly advise him not to talk about the case. But on the other hand, I get strong, like I will defend myself in court vibes from Chief Zaholic.
Hopefully in the entire wolf uniform. Yeah, true, true.
So Billy might interview him himself, and we'll put that on the part of my take YouTube. Okay, so I'm- What a meeting of the minds that will be.
It's like the Frost Nixon of our generation. So I'm obviously Eagles.
I think it's going to be a very tight game. I think there's not going to be many moments where it feels like the Eagles are safe, Max, but I'm going Eagles.
Okay. Which isn't a surprise to anyone.
Jake, what do you think? You have to give us a game prediction. Yeah, I mean, I'm rooting for you to win.
I want you to win. And I've been so bad this year, so I want to pick the Chiefs.
Okay, yes, do it. Yeah, you're wearing red right now.
Yeah, so Chiefs, woo-hoo. Okay, nice, nice.
Yeah, we go. Cultural appropriation.
Yeah. What was that? Woo-hoo.
Like, let's go. Chiefs.
Why'd you put your hand over your mouth? Like, do it. No.
32-26. I couldn't help but notice that your legs are crossed right now.
32-26 to origami. Be a bummer if I ended this last place year with another loss.
Wait. So, what's the score of origami bet? 32-26.
Oh, yeah, that's my favorite prop. I'm sure we'll get to that, but plus 1,500 in the Barstool Sportsbook.
Okay, Scoragami. I'm rooting for a Scoragami for you.
Thank you. I'm rooting for the Eagles for you, but I picked the Chiefs.
Okay, nice, nice, nice. Hank.
Yes. We all want to know.
I will not be betting the outcome of the game before the game. This is not trolling.
I'll tell you this right now. I will be betting whoever goes down early.
Okay. That's consistent with that.
Yeah, that's fair. The live money line.
Hank wants to see the plus sign. My official prediction, though, of who I think is going to win is the Eagles.
Okay. But I'm not going to.
And what would that do to you? That would make me happy because you're happy. And Max is happy.
And PFT. And PFT.
i've got it i've got the biggest bet of my life also i also i did i did put a future in uh on the cowboys now we put one on the eagles three dollars that's not oh yeah yeah future technically every bet is a future yeah unless it's live live yeah yeah max you want to give some thoughts before you get it going for war get tell us to like what your sunday is going to look like what what's the plan we might i think what we might do is if we can figure out we need it we need to get them like three c4s before the game can we go live on the part of my take youtube from our phones or no no that's not youtube instagram yeah okay so we'll we'll whatever we do it might be a we might make a quick video we might do a live instagram but sunday morning we'll figure out a way that max pft and i will do like a little two minute just like how you feel in max a day you know before the game yeah we can do an instagram live and then just post it on the feed yeah okay so we'll we'll make sure that you can hear from Max when it's like go time, but how are you feeling right now? It looks like you're sweating. It looks like you're about to cry.
No, no. Profusely.
The ticket, the ticket drop hurt. Don't worry about that.
That doesn't matter. That's no, that did hurt.
It's the loser mentality. That's not loser mentality.
It is. Why are you afraid of losing? It's a free ticket.
I'm not afraid of losing. You are because you're thinking about the cost difference.
You're already thinking about paying the money back, which would imply that they lose. Well, that's, yeah, whatever.
You saying that I'm not going to be comfortable. Well, I'm not going to be comfortable.
We'll be up three scores, and I still won't be comfortable. But I'm thinking about what's going to go on through my body if it's's like a three score game or a three-point game in the fourth quarter and like i might i like might actually pass out yeah your body might just like go into fight or flight mode because uh like a possum because knock you out the difference is like in five years ago when we beat the patriots it was a sort of game where it was like, we're happy to be here.
We have a backup quarterback. We're on a great run.
We're going against Tom Brady, the best quarterback of all time. And it was almost like, this is fun.
Like, let's just go into this. Hopefully we have a good game.
We don't get blown out, and it's like a fun night. Now it's like we have to win this game.
We're losing a lot of guys in the offseason. We got to start paying Jalen Hurts.
You got picks, though. We do have picks, but it's like you don't get this opportunity often, and this is the best team that we could possibly put together right now, and you got to win a Super Bowl.
And it's like all starting to hit me right now. two and five years is significant like that's the eagles start getting remembered is like hey they were fucking there for a stretch yeah yeah no and then if you get one and then you can start to get more it's title town yeah yeah two and five years would be that's you're knocking on a dynasty doorstep right there yeah you probably need probably need four and seven years.
I give you four and eight years to me would qualify as a dynasty. That's the Warriors, I think, yeah.
Four and nine is a nice little run. I mean, it wouldn't be absurd for you to say title town unless all of your teams kept losing in the finals.
The Chiefs are the team that's really playing for the dynasty. I'm also very worried about that.
We can't keep losing in the finals. So I'm curious to know, as a fan, doing the max sweep, if you do the Philly sweep, and what if the Sixers make it to the finals, they lose? That would be fine, because we'd beat the Celtics.
Yeah. But from your perspective as a fan...
Keep your focus on the game, Max. If you're going to the game as a fan, the Super Bowl is a place where it's like,

it's more corporate.

It's not as rowdy as the link.

It's also not as rowdy as Arrowhead.

But you have fans that might not know whether to stand up, get super loud.

What's your game plan going to be like as an Eagles fan?

I'm going to make sure that.

Also, bad sports sound.

The tickets are dropping. Yeah, they are significantly.
Stop talking about that. It went from your tickets are $6,000.
You could get in for $3,000 right now. That's just not true.
We just read the number. It was four.
It dropped. By the time people are listening to this, it'll be $3,000.
They'll be giving away for free. I'd like you to shut up.
Wait, what were we just talking about? Yeah, like crowd noise. Are you going to be like full Philly? Yes.
What are you wearing? I could be wearing this sweatshirt. No, you can't wear white.
You got to wear green. I have this also in green.
Okay. You have to wear green.
Yeah. Because the Chiefs are wearing white.
That's true. I'll be wearing green.
I'll be have this also in green okay you have to wear green yeah because the chiefs are wearing white that's true i'll be wearing green i'll be wearing this but like an opposite you can also buy this at the barstool store nice are you gonna wear the are you gonna wear the pants no i'm not gonna wear the pants what if i what i know i thought about it but like what if we go i mean i can't be i can't be wearing those out if you wear those there, they would be like, we don't technically have a dress code here, but those aren't coming. No, if he wears the pants, it would be great because people would be like, how could he afford Super Bowl tickets? And the answer could possibly be he can't.
Well, those pants would be, I could see somebody that's like literally homeless wearing them or then somebody that's like mega, mega rich. I don't give a fuck what I look like wearing them.
They're so comfortable. They're great pants.
Okay. So back to the game.
Yeah. So you're going to be full Philly.
You're going to be screaming the entire time. Maybe hit a child.
Are you going to stand up on defense? I don't know. I can't be thinking.
All I have to be worrying about is what's going on. No, you've got a game plan this shit, Max.
I can't be thinking about whether I'm going to be standing. You're going to the game unprepared.
I'm going to be sitting. I can't be worried about the people around me.
I can be worried about me. I can be worried about Roan.
I can be worried about memes. I can be worried about my crew being into the game, focused on what we need to do, and it's come home with Super Bowl 57.
Okay. I don't even know what I just was doing there.
No, it was a nice pump up. Otherwise, you'll be sitting on that couch crying to me On Sunday night It would be so bad Hank is now rooting for that I think the AWLs are too let's be honest No I don't think so That's mean Hank Yeah they are They root against us in every big game.
From a content perspective, again, that's what – your bet actually complicates it because it's – Oh, I'll be just as depressed. I don't – yeah, like I love future.
I love a good value. You got great value.
I don't want to see you lose 200K. So that will make it worse, but the loss would be so sweet.
Damn it. I mean, I know – listen, because it is a double loss.
It's Max and me, and the AWLs are sickos. They're pervertsverts and they want to see pain.
That's what they want to see. It would be so much pain.
Okay. You got it.
You're ready to go, Max. You're ready to go.
Come on, Max. Also, make sure you're following Part of My Take Twitter and Instagram.
Memes is going. He's going to be documenting the whole game.
We'll have it for PMTV as well. But live updates will be.
Memes will be on top of all of that. So, yeah.
What makes me a little bit nervous is I could definitely see a world. Max comes back.
He's crying. And Jake won his Super Bowl bet.
And he reluctantly shakes his hand. I don't bet.
It's a pick. I wouldn't even score a gummy in the Chiefs.
I just Max would be like, Jake would be like, I'm really sorry that I beat you. That would be just classic Jake.
I would not say it would be. If the game is tied in the fourth quarter, who would you rather be? What's the score? 21-21.
Chiefs. Too much time for Patrick Mahomes.
If you said 17-17, I would have said Eagles. Yeah.
Yeah. 21 implies we've had some touchdown points.
Are you considering an in-game hedge? I said, yes, there's a potential for a live hedge, but it would, I, it's probably not going to happen. Like 14 plus points.
Yeah. Like if the Eagles go up 10, nothing and it's like, I'm sitting there and it's looking like it's chiefs plus four for 50.
I might just be like, yeah, just a gonna be sitting next to pft so i'll tell them it's not gonna be there's no other hedges there's no other hedges um all right favorite props i got some hot ones yeah i got a couple too i got some real hot ones uh hank and i are gonna go head to head on one it sounds like i put him on this bet earlier today in classic hank fashion he took my bet and he's just doing the exact opposite it's not a troll i actually believe hank when he says that he's not trolling on this he would never troll never but i saw this bet pop up on the barstool sports book um no doinks i'm taking no doinks i'm seeing no doink the field goal on or an extra point if there's a doink it pays out what hank plus 410 420 if there is a doink if there is a doink, it pays out what, Hank? Plus 410, 420? If there is a doink. If there is a doink.
I'm no doinks. So I'm loading up, and I think it's minus 540 on the Barstool Sportsbook.
I'm going to put a shitload of money on no doinks. On minus 540? And it's going to be.
Oh, you got to go doink. It's going to be.
No, no. You brought it up.
I was like, that's a great bet. But then I looked at it looked at it it's gonna be torture it's gonna be so so much torture on every single attempt for me i because i put myself in the mindset like rooting for a doink that's fun but just the sheer terror that goes through your brain as every kick is in the air is it going towards the upright is it not that's that's the edge of the knife that i want to be living on for this super bowl so i'm going it's not a not a good bet.
I want to preface it by saying it's a terrible bet, but I love it.

Okay.

No doinks.

Next one.

Over three and a half field goals.

Okay.

So this is the bet that you should have been following all year long.

That's a lot of doink opportunities.

Since week four on primetime games.

Oh, I realize.

Since week four in primetime games, I think it was hitting at something like 78% on the season.

And it's always like, I think an average of plus 125.

So that's single-handedly gotten me through the season on the plus side is just hammering that shit.

The Gremlin play over three and a half field goals.

And then I love this one.

Offensive lineman touchdown.

Yes.

And it's plus 2000.

It's fun to root for, but also I feel like in the red zone the chiefs get creative true and they've had all sorts of weird plays they haven't really featured an offensive lineman recently they've probably been saving that one andrew reed loves his big guys and then on the other side i feel like sirianni in like a tribute to philly lore probably has a philly special type play drawn up some sort of gadget play in the red zone that he's going to try to run. And I know it's not a guarantee that it would go to alignment, but I think that bumps it up enough in my brain where I'm like, okay, it's, it's, it's more probable than not that if he runs a weird play like that, it could be a tackle that catches it.
So along those same lines, one of my favorite props, i bet at every super bowl because it's like it's a super bowl hold nothing back total players to attempt to pass over two and a half plus 130 yeah and you have the added bonus this year of both quarterbacks being a little dinged up so that i mean there's gotta be a trick play there's gotta be a trick play. I also have a game to be tied after 0-0.
Yes, minus 125, a little juice, but I like that one because I think it's going to be a close game. I also, I'm obviously going to bet tails.
Tails statistically is 6-3 on a 6-3 against a spread record right now in the Super Bowl. Don't go past that history because just don't.
No, it's a heater. In the last decade, it's been an awesome bet.
And we had heads last year, so it kind of cooled off a little bit. Now we're back.
We're due. We're back.
And then maybe my favorite one, which is, again, along the lines of I think it's going to be a close game, either team to score with less than two minutes left in the fourth quarter, yes, minus 106. Okay.
I like that one, too. So under the two minutes, you're just rooting.
It's basically you're rooting for a good game. Yeah.
Because if there's a score, I guess there could be a garbage time touchdown, but a score in the last two minutes, you know, yeah. Yeah, those tie bets, because I like to bet – I like to sprinkle a little bit on a tie game at halftime because it's usually like plus 1100.
Yeah. I just feel like when we ties happen all the time yes scores always tied yes so why not like it seems like you're stealing with these odds yes hank do you have any others uh i i'm gonna go hammer on to be a doink fuck you i also like this one i just we all just kind of learned about this there There to be an octopus plus 1150.

I'm going yes.

An octopus is a player scoring a touchdown and then scoring the next play two-point conversion.

I've never heard of that term before.

I feel like somebody's pulling our leg.

We don't know the ball, I guess.

No, it's 2019.

It's like a new.

That's a great, great term.

I thought they meant like someone throwing an octopus on the field.

Like, I don't know.

He was like, what's his octopus? If it's a Red Wings game. octopus on the field like i don't know if it's a red wings game yeah so like i don't know yeah i have a good one do you have any others yeah i have a good one score got me yes and uh time final play of game is completed 10 14 59 seconds eastern timer earlier minus 155 last year the nfl account tweeted to los angeles rams super world champions at 10 p.m eastern on the dot and the eagles do like to run the ball so could maybe get a quicker game so if it's the same thing as last year it's 15 minutes of cushion okay okay yeah okay but that is a rooting against overtime bet yeah sprinkle a little on overtime just in case yeah um the also i have a can't lose parlay for for the Super Bowl.
I can't remember all the props, but I do have – Hank, you'll like this. If you bet $25 on the Barstool Sportsbook on the can't-lose parlay, if the opening kickoff is not returned, you get $10.
Love that. So the can't-lose parlay can lose.
Well, it's a can't-lose parlay, but you get $10. Hank, are you doing anything with the opening kickoff no i crunch the numbers there's not there's not too much juice either way i'm probably gonna go for it to be a touchback again but but you're not staking your reputation on it yeah and it's minus 137 yeah so um that makes you very sad to bet on something with that that type of odds doesn't it it's like impossible yeah because you look other side, it's like, wait, that's way better.
Max, did you just hurt yourself? I just heard an ah, ah. I rolled over on my balls.
He rolled over on his balls. His big old balls.
Max, good news. Cheapest ticket now $4,300.
So it's gone up $200 since we started recording. Going back up.
I'm rooting for points. I'm'm rooting for a close game a double doink missed field goal at the end would be great either way I didn't say who 1-800-GAMBLER if you had a gambling problem gamble responsibly but the Super Bowl is so much fun there's so many different props and with that why don't we get to our interview with Lane Johnson we talked to him about what maybe type of Gatorade they drink on the sideline.
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OK, here he is, Lane Johnson.

OK, we now welcome on a recurring guest, very special guest, future Hall of Famer, hopefully future two time Super Bowl winner. It lane johnson from the philadelphia eagles we're talking to you super bowl week lane it's great to see you let's i mean how how's the groin slash stomach what can you explain the injury because every time that it's explained it seems like it gets more painful for regular guys like us well originally shefter reported as a as a a core injury.
That's before the MRI came back. So it's like everybody had bad information.
But you have like three adductor heads, and I tore one of them. So, yeah, when he said core, that's, I think, what fucked me up.
When he said core injury, I was like, did he tear his whole stomach? Yeah, it wasn't a hernia. That's what people were texting me.
I was like, no, he messed it up. Wait, you said Schefter texted.
He tweeted it out before you even got your mri done yeah so he just knew so either the doctor or whoever had the images told damn he probably got some money for it like on his way into your room into your room tmz of the yeah we did like so much of the pure paul remember yeah he had that yeah my wasn't near severe but yeah he was losing four fingers there's only three yeah yeah jobs peterson yeah Yeah, exactly? Yeah. When he had that? Yeah.
Mine wasn't near as severe. Yeah, he was losing four fingers.
There's only three. Yeah.
Yeah. Jobs Peterson.
Yeah, exactly. Sweet.
So, are you feeling good? Because I love watching you play, and I also really want the Eagles to win. Yeah, I feel good.
The first game, I was a little bit iffy, but the second game, I felt a lot better. And then I had two weeks this time around to recover, so I feel good.
And now, just on a pure – football is football is a very violent sport tough sport but like you do have to feel a little bit like a badass when they're like hey you need surgery you're like nah i gotta play in the super bowl i mean if we weren't in this position like the talent level that we have on the roster it's like you can see it like whenever it comes around don't come around often but i was like i knew we had a chance to be you know where we're we're at now. So I was like, 32, can't hold anything back.
Yeah, that's great. You've got too much time left.
Your quarterback is a tough motherfucker too. Strong.
Real strong guy. What is he squatting at, like 600 pounds? Yeah, he was powerlifting in high school.
It's crazy when you watch the tapes of him doing squats back at Alabama. He's a tough dude.
He's like, from everything I've read, he's become like an unquestioned leader of this team I'm curious to know like from your perspective because you're you're a veteran presence you were looked at as one of the the leaders of this team as well when he stepped in the locker room how how long did it take for you guys to recognize like this dude's a leader uh it wasn't very long you know you could tell a lot just from his body language. You know, he didn't talk a lot, but if he said something, it was usually he had some sustenance to it.
Really, if I had to compare like a personality, he was like Ivory Christian from Friday Night Lights, the defensive end that didn't talk much. That's Jalen.
Okay. That's a good comparison.
So this season has been fantastic. You guys going into the season, not a lot of people were thinking that you'd be in the super bowl yeah what point in the season were you like oh we're we're like good good oh uh well maybe it was training camp well no it's like there's a few games that are going to be tough and go down the wire sometimes it's not like to a good opponent sometimes like when we played the bears and we played indianapolis and like had some ugly games but found a way to win them i was like you know that's a that's a team that we need to be yeah oh so those two so the unassuming games that were like hard like we're supposed to win your favorite um supposed to be easy those can turn out to be the hardest games and it was a hard game for us well chicago you couldn't feel anything yeah that that that's an interesting answer because i would have assumed it was like you know somewhere in the first month or two where you guys were blowing people out but you're you're right like those games where you everyone expects the good team to just demolish the bad team those are the games like if you handle your business that's the sign that you got something yeah i mean and then you know acquiring sue and limbaugh just having those just having the rotation we have on the defensive defensive line, that makes the team go.
You can't have many two good pass rushers. And just eventually somebody's going to get a one-on-one battle.
Doesn't matter what kind of scheme you're doing. Somebody's going to be left one-on-one.
That's what they pray on. What about right after that game against the Commanders, the Monday night football game? Did you guys win that game? We lost.
Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah.
We how long did you like right afterwards were you like okay here's what we need to fix did you change anything about what you were doing or like how do you how do you not let a loss like that affect you and let it cascade oh well you learn from it uh it was one of those games like i said you're expected to win uh it's supposed to be an easy game and those can what they call them trap games so yeah well sometimes you can go out there and not put out your best performance. But I feel like after that game, I feel like that got our attention back somewhat, refocused us.
So what you're saying is like partial credit for the Super Bowl should go to the Washington Commanders. Pretty much, yeah.
Okay, yeah. Lighten the fire, be in the catalyst.
I'll take it. Hang the banner.
Okay, so I have a question that I want to phrase it correctly because you're a friend of ours. We always want to take care of our friends.
The last thing we want to do is make a headline before the Super Bowl. We had Chris Long on before the Super Bowl.
We actually cut part of that interview and then the other part made a headline out of nowhere because it was like an innocuous comment about the White House. So all this is the preface.
And he's a great coach. Butianni's corny right he's kind of corny he's learning as you go like the thing about nick is like he'll admit like whenever he did the first press conference or whatever and then he had the team meetings like guys i should i should the bed that was okay that's awesome so when you had that vulnerability and like you're human too that makes people even yeah yeah it's here.
Yeah, it's realness. Realness, yeah.
Yeah, okay, that's actually – I'm happy you told us that because we're fans of Nick Sirianni. He's a great coach.
But we've been basically – our line of thinking has been if the Eagles at any point dip off, everyone's going to be making fun of them for being corny because you can do whatever you want. What they already did, like last year, was like we started the season terrible and ended up surging back.
Remember planting the seeds and the roots? Sometimes you don't have a whole lot. Sometimes there's a drought and nothing's growing, so we had to go through that phase too.
Do those things work in the NFL though? Because it's very college-like, you know? Yeah, I mean, when you get in a game so long, it's like I've heard every type of motivational quote that's ever been written. Like I don't, you know, I don't need'm just thinking uh hey i gotta get off the ball i gotta listen to kelsey for the snap i'm not worrying about a whole lot else on third down you're not thinking about planting flowers i'm not you're not thinking about eight mile yeah yeah he played the eight mile did eight mile pump you up because i'm i'm of the mindset that eight mile like it plays where did eight where 8 Mile get? Didn't he play it for you guys before that? That's the report.
Before the Giants game, maybe, in the playoffs, he played some of 8 Mile. I can't do it.
We have so much. The final rap battle.
Yeah. We have, like, 50 rap songs.
I'm trying to think which song am I remembering. That's perfect.
Yeah, I think it was. Yeah.
That answer your question. Yeah, so you just said get off the ball.
There's been a lot of talk. There has been a lot of talk.
And listen, we know ball. We study tape.
We know that what you're doing is not offsides. Can you explain to people why they're stupid for thinking you're offsides when you're clearly not? False start.
False start, yeah. I mean, there's probably some plays where I am a little bit early, but.
No, no, no. No, no.
You go on the H&E hike. So, my thing is, as soon as Kelsey flinches his wrist, sometimes, like in the screenshots, it shows me moving.
Yeah, people try to screenshot it. During the clip, he's like flinched his elbow.
His elbow's already moved, or his wrist has, to snap the ball. And, like, I'm just learning this from Jason Peters.
Jason Peters learned it from Walter Jones. Right.

Williams learned it.

You know, any tackle that has it that's pretty good in the league,

if you don't have a good get-off, you're not quick out of your stance,

you're done.

Right.

You're done.

Right.

That was like –

It's like a 100-meter dash.

If you bullshit the first five yards, ten yards, you're done.

Right.

I'm just with the mindset that if they're not calling it,

then it's not cheating.

Right.

I'll just take the heat and just keep going. Yeah.
They can say that you're getting – maybe it's their eyes. They should have said this eight, nine years ago when I started learning how to do this.
Right. It's been long.
This should have been – this is a long overdue discussion. And you're right because it is like every great tackle – Trent Williams is a perfect example.
All the really elite tackles are doing this. Go watch him against Micah.
Go watch him setting off the ball quick. If you don't, you're done.
Right. You're done.
Right. What am I worried about? Doing my job or somebody in fucking Harrisburg telling me I'm early? Right.
Yeah, no, it is the screenshots. People love doing the screenshots.
We're like, look at this. Sorry, guys, if I'm early.
No, no, no. You're not.
No, no. We know ball.
We know that you're not. And you don't need to apologize for anything.
What's funny is, like, all the X-linemen are, like, they're, like, in the O-line community, so they're, like, rooting for me. Yeah, no, I saw.
Like, Whitworth and some of those guys. I saw a video of an X-lineman coach, and he was like, everyone who says this is a false start, you don't realize this is just Lane Johnson being elite.
You got to get off the ball, man. That's the end of the story.
We know ball. I don't know if this is coming across in the microphones at all, but you've cracked your left foot probably like nine times, and it's so loud.
Is that the one that you've had all the work done? That's like my Mr. Deeds foot.
Can I see your foot? I got a toe special. Let's throw your foot.
Oh, jeez. What shoes are you wearing, by the way? Oh, man, here we go.
I'll take the risk and say, what are those, bro? Vivo barefoot, and I'm trying to get a sponsorship. So I got a lot of the team to start trying them on.
Do you have the screws in that ankle? Yeah. Can you still see them? You can feel them.
A little bit right here. Ooh.
Yeah, so that's a tightrope, and then this is a deltoid. Damn.
And is your foot feeling better? It has its days where it feels better, but the groin kind of took the focus off of the head. That was the question I was going to ask you, because we were talking with the guy's name's escaping me, the dude that broke his leg and arm at the same time, tried to dunk a basketball.
Oh, Tom Segura. Tom Segura.
Tom Segura, yeah. So Tom had that injury, and he's like, well, you can't really feel – you can't feel both of them at the same time.
Is there any truth to that, that if one part of your body is more injured, it takes the pain away? I feel like there's going to be one body part that's going to be a little bit worse than the other one. You're just going to put all your attention towards that.
Yeah. Yeah.
You've got – you might be the biggest guest, like, physically, in part of my take history. Is that fair to say? I got to look at the lineup.
Do you still have a six-pack? We had Kane on. It's always the answer.
Kane's huge. Yeah, Kane's huge.
And he's a congressman who was. He's a mayor or something.
Mayor Kane, yeah. Yeah, he's always my default.
Kane is like the more globally known John Runyon of the NFL. Yeah, you should actually get into wrestling after your career.
You know, I thought about it, but, dude, I'm going to be – I'm already 32, so it's like – I just keep destroying my body some more. No, it'd be fun.
I mean, I'm a big fan of it, but we'll see. Yeah.
You guys win on Sunday. You're coming back, right? You're not done with football.
Yeah, I'm not done. I keep telling people, like, two more years.
I years i like that two more years i don't want to like fade away like and start declining and just keep i don't want to steal money or yeah you know i feel bad uh i'd be okay with stealing yeah for the right time with that if anybody wants what i turn stealing money but uh yeah two years i'm like two years i'm good well if you're still elite like we had uh our good friend mark slareth on and he told the story that at the end of his career he was watching tape uh practice tape and he was like who is that guy he looks so slow and then he realized it was him and he was like fuck i gotta be done with this that's what i'm saying it's like every player in their career they'll go to a point like uh they're in denial i don't know i'm still looking good i'm still looking good and then one day somebody hits you with a comment bro what's going on know? Somebody will come and hit you with the facts. Yeah.
I mean, right now your offensive line is like probably the best in the league. Fair to say a lot of people have talked about him.
If any Malata, you think I'm big. Yeah.
So Malata, have you watched his rugby film? Yes. From back in the day when he was playing rugby league? He's running over fucking people that are mowing lawns over there.
Yeah, it's crazy to watch that shit.

Like, he's so much bigger than fast.

He was, like, only 310 there.

I mean, it's still big, but now he's, like, he's listed at 370.

He's been four before, but he plays it, like, around 380.

What's impressive to watch with him is not just, like, his sheer size and speed,

which is otherworldly, but his ball handling ability.

Like, he's tucking the ball away.

He's moving it. Have you guys thought about getting the ball in the backfield at all? I would like to see it.
He'd better put some pads on those shins in case he gets folded. But, yeah, man, no, he's extremely athletic, and he can sing, and he can play football.
And, like, what's crazy is how many people come into the league that don't have any college background, that don't have a high school background, and play in the NFL?

It's like, it's unheard of.

Well, then you are kind of a case in point of learning on the job

because you went to college, you played quarterback for a little bit,

and then you switched to tight end.

For a little bit.

And then you switched to defensive line,

and then they moved you up to offensive line.

Did you ever think that, like, you were just never going to stop growing?

You know, it was interesting.

So, like, OU offered me that year, and I ended up going with OU,

but TCU offered me whenever I walked into their office uh Gary Patterson the coach that was there for a long time he was like dude you're gonna be 300 pounds and I'm like 250 I'm like I did not want to hear that shit and then three years down the road he called it but yeah OU has like a tradition of doing that like Jamal Brown Gabe I feel like a lot of programs are doing that getting tight ends guys are ex-basketball players yeah joe thomas was a tight end when he was in wisconsin yeah yeah yeah how much did you have to eat to to put on the weight necessary i mean i was already at 280 when i was playing dn so i got to like 295 my junior year and i was probably 300 305 my senior year so my senior year. How's the bro barn doing? So for people who don't know.
I feel like my house is like the Forrest Gump house. So when I wake up in the morning, there's cars outside.
This guy's training. Some of my buddies like Runyon, Pryor, Herbie.
So just a lot of guys at the house coming in and out. So usually at the season, I'm in Oklahoma City, and then they just keep their little thing going there.
And you created, you just renovated your entire barn to a weight, like a gym and call it the Bro Barn? Yeah, I mean, they asked me to name it, and I was like, dude, I don't have any clue what to name it. But it belongs, so like the property I'm on, there's like a big school there.
It looks like a big-ass, it has, it has a big mansion, but I guess they section selling all those. It's okay.
We know you make a lot of money. But anyways, it was a bad horse barn.
You had groundhogs in it, and I got the groundhogs out and put some concrete on it. You should call it the arm farm.
The arm farm? Yeah. Because the damn sure ain't the leg farm.
Yeah. Wait, do you hunt in the off season, right? Not really? Like, the podcast world sees me as like a more country redneck.

I came from the country, but I'm not like a go out and kill stuff with my hands and a knife.

I like to fish more.

Oh, okay.

What's your favorite fish to catch?

Do some bass fishing.

I like going in the bay.

The answer was the next one, but that's fine. Yeah.

No, no. Go ahead.
Sorry. what's the biggest fish you've caught a bull shark in florida oh it wasn't good so we didn't catch shit all day and he was like well do you want to catch a shark or something before you go i was like hooked this thing two hours later fought this thing for two hours just bow in my back just not good fucking damn and towards the end Damn.
And towards the end, I was like, I'm about to cut this. I'm not doing it no more.
And then by the end of that, he just started. They'll get so fatigued, they'll, like, float up on their sides.
Yeah. So it felt good to conquer.
Is there, like, mutual respect for the shark when you got it on board? Well, what's crazy is, like, we got rid of the bait that we used on the fishing trip. And it wasn't, you know, you dump it in the water.
We're probably 400 yards offshore, and just big bull sharks coming up. I mean, we're in Florida.
The water gets deep quick. Yeah.
I'm not going swimming in Florida. And you let it go.
Yeah, I let it go. Yeah, hell yeah.
See? I wonder if that, like, for sharks is, like, their version of going to the gym where they're just fighting for two hours. It's got to be.
Yeah, because they got to be really tired after that. Yeah, they said sometimes they'll die.
Oh, shit. die oh shit but we didn't check it goes back like if it tells the other sharks once it gets back in the ocean like i just got taken out of the water it was wild yeah like like a whole nother world up there dude i fucking just lifted for two hours yeah what have you done today wait was that lane johnson i just i just worked out with lane johnson and he was a small one yeah what about when uh when carson wentz came back from that hunting trip and he had like 600 ducks nailed to the side of a barn? You see that picture? I didn't see it, but I imagine it probably pissed off a lot of the fan base.
It was just weird to see that. That many ducks? Here, let me show you the picture.
It is a wild picture. A lot of times, like, they'll get out in the field, like in North Dakota, there's nothing out there, just sit and ambush them yeah how much does the team miss chris long a lot damn so when you said not at all we don't miss chris at all yeah there we go piece of shit no chris is the best so he and i know you guys are still tight so i'm sure he's has he like does he still keep in touch with a bunch of guys from yeah uh that Yeah, that.
I talk to him probably once or twice a week.

It's just cool seeing him make money outside of football

with what he's done with the game.

So he's happy.

His body's not hurting as much.

Yeah.

Life's good.

Smoking a lot of weed.

Smoking a lot of weed.

There's the Carson Wentz picture.

Dude.

That's a significant amount of ducks, and they're all dead.

It looks like it was from, like, the 1800s.

Yeah.

They need to put this picture in cracker barrel that's where that picture belongs right next to the little fucking chess game they have yeah um all right so obviously this is your second super bowl what like what do you think do you have things in your mind that happened in the first super bowl that you're like i now know how to do this like i'm not going to be intimidated by this moment or that moment uh like i said like you get to like so we started the football season july 24th so just doing the same thing every day and then now we're in february i'm so just like numb to everything i'm ready to play um and that's all you can do try not to worry about all the rest i've done the. Right.
So, like, the – because a lot of guys will say, oh, it's so much faster in the Super Bowl and, like, you know, the halftime is so long. Yeah.
No, it's – yeah, the pregame, the halftime, it's just a little bit different setup. So, it is, like, so when you go into halftime, we usually don't have, what, like nine minutes, ten minutes, and then now you have 30, so the timing feels weird.
Yeah. What about hydration's big during the Super Bowl? It's it's real big like you got to make sure that your gatorade is the exact flavor that you guys like it it was like what flavor do you guys typically use to stay hydrated yeah so we have like gator lights which is gatorade with electrolytes added and then we have a thing called uh what color is that yeah what color are they they have different colors they have like strawberry ki normally have? So like in the big strawberry kiwi.
No, I know you are, but like the big, yeah. What would you say most of the jugs are color-wise? Probably white.
Okay, white. Glacier or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, okay. But the ones that would be used like on the sidelines, that's white.
I think it's in a cooler. Yeah.
Oh, no, but what about the jug? The big one. It's all yellow Gatorade.
Oh, that's yellow. Okay, cool.
Interesting. Glad we clarified that.
It's the only color I see. I don't know why that's.
Yeah, that's interesting. So it's crazy.
Like in the Gatorade commercials, you remember all the Gatorade was yellow. Yeah, we asked that question to everyone, whoever comes on, what Gatorade's their favorite.
I think I saw like a coach get dumped with Gatorade or something one time. That was kind of weird.
No, I don't think you saw that. Okay, but yours is, if hypothetically they were to dump it, it would be yellow.
Okay, yellow. Got it.
Yellow. Do you know what the Chiefs might drink? Red Gatorade.
Okay, probably red. Yeah, yeah.
Are you friends with anybody on the Chiefs? Yeah, Creed Humphrey, James Winchester, Long Sna snapper. Like, my home is from around, like, close to where I'm from.
Yeah. East Texas area.
So, I knew him when he was in high school. But Blake Bell, tied in.
Yeah. Some of the OU guys.
Yeah. The belldozer.
Is it – Belldozer. You guys talk at all this week? No, we haven't.
It's great. Like, usually we'll only talk, like, during the offseason, like when everybody's, like's like officially can unwind but during the season everybody's just oh go to meetings go to yeah robot mode who's the guy you who's the guy you have like is it position to position before the game that you're going to talk to or is like there are certain it's usually there'll be like a little what's up how you doing have you had that planned out in your head uh you talking about pre-game yeah yeah i don't go out in the field.
I stay in the locker room. Really? I just warm up in the locker room.
What? So you're just like a bull in a fucking pen? Well, no, I used to go out there and warm up, and I was like, man, I can do fucking push-ups. I can do wall squats against a cinder block in the bathroom.
So I don't know. I just rather not go out there until the game's ready.
That's's great sweet you're just sitting in there doing wall squats push i mean i'm sitting in there listening to some music uh some of the rap and then i'll put my own playlist on i like that get a little bit lost in that and then i get ready do you have to get yourself into a violent mode when you get on the field or is it just you've done it for so long that you know not violent like what i found is like when you play like very emotional like if you're really revved up unless you're Brian Dawkins it can kind of distract you and you can sometimes get too hype and and mess up a play and not be what you want to be so my thing is uh you know I'm going into a battle not a whole lot of good that can come from it I just keep my quarterback clean and uh hang on pretty much yeah I mean well you can't have an awesome highlight like the one that you had against von miller that is maybe one of the coolest blocks i've ever seen in my life yeah and i remember that i was like so that was the play right before halftime so i i remember doing the block but i didn't remember seeing him and then after the game it was like went viral but what he was doing he was trying to make an inside spin on me and i just hit him at the right time so next time we time we play, he's going to totally try to fucking rip my hand off. But you have to admit, like watching it, it's cool to see.
Yeah, it looks cool. You helicoptered him.
Helicopter. And it's Vaughn Miller.
It's taking off. Yeah.
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I remembered why I thought you would be a good wrestler because I read somewhere that your first job... It's grave digging? Grave digging.
Yeah thing ever that's it wasn't like it's a lot cooler uh it sounds a lot cooler than what it is like i get there and i'm how old are you uh i was 15 16 okay grave digging at 15 i mean my population in my town i looked at it's like 9 18 so we don't have a whole lot going on it's either that or you can walk work at the dollar gen you can uh that makes it feed store that makes it crazier just so you know because that means you're grave digging and you know the person every time it is weird like my like my so you know digging the graves is obviously hard but we also had to set up the funerals so like all the astroturf all the seats and then we had the responsibility of lowering the cassettes so the last thing i'm thinking is don't fuck this up. I don't want to see somebody's grandmother get dumped out.
Right. Not good.
But, no, it went well. So, yeah, my stepdad's best friend was the mortician in town.
So long story short, that's all I got. I mean, I don't know how that's not your nickname.
The Gravedigger. Yeah, the Gravedigger.
Well, they have that in Monster Truck. Yeah, I know.
I know, but you're the monster truck of the NFL. You're digging Graves for everyone.
He gravedigger shirt and had a little bald head coming out that monster truck. Yeah, I know.
I know, but like – You're the monster truck of the NFL. You're digging graves for it.
You're digging a grave digger shirt and having a little bum head coming out the fucking truck. Yeah.
Did you see, by the way, the – so the NFC Championship game, I don't know how much you've been on social media during the season. Did you see the Philly fans going after Joey Bosa before the game? Yeah, I saw it.
What did you think about that? I mean, that's just Philly through and through. I mean, there is no winning.

If you respond, you've lost.

It doesn't matter what you say, you've lost.

But he's pissed off.

I mean, so him and Nick actually had the same surgery that I'm about to get.

Okay.

So that's what he was missing time with earlier this year.

So he was probably trying to have a good time

and wasn't allowed to have a good time

and let the people know that, hey, he's ready to bark and bite.

Yeah.

But, I mean, Philly, do you know, you've only played with the Eagles, but do you know the fans? Can you feel it when you're playing at the link for a big game? Yeah. So what was funny, so I think it was my rookie year, I used to sit with Evan Mathis, and sometimes the crowd wouldn't know if it was the home bus or the away team, so just whatever bus was getting flipped off.
We're getting flipped off on the way to the game. And sometimes on the way out of the game, too.
Yeah, that's perfect. In the case of Bosa, it's like the second that you respond by saying, my money, like, yeah, I'm rich, you kind of lose.
Yeah, you lost. You lost.
You got beat by the Bosa guy And I also, we had the hypothetical. It's like, I don't think there's, I don't care how rich you are, how good you are in football.
You go up against like 10 drunk Philly scumbags. They're going to win every time.
They are. They just are.
They're just going to beat you with like their work. And there's no telling what was said before the two clips.
Like, you know, he was just taking that shit on the chin all game until he said, hey, I had enough. Yeah, right.
Speaking of pro wrestlers, he looks like he could be fucking Shawn Michaels. Yeah, big time.
Is there anybody in the NFL that you really enjoy going up against? Like maybe somebody that's a worthy competitor, but someone that you always like you relish that competition? I mean, really, DeMarcus, just because you play him for so long. Kerrigan, when he was playing.
But really, man, it's like whatever person I'm going against,

it's like you have respect.

And, like, sometimes the hardest games are the ones

if you, like, overlook an opponent.

Like, I've seen that happen.

Like, you take it lightly, and somebody that shouldn't beat you, beat you.

So it's like every game I try to make it the same,

like you're going into a gunfight with rocks.

Yeah.

I want that feeling of pressure.

Yeah.

I mean, your offensive line is so much fun to watch. Are you guys, would you consider yourself to be filthy, dirty, or nasty? We're pretty, we take showers, so we're not filthy.
Okay. I would say nasty.
You should see, I don't know, I feel like the more back hair a person has, like the stronger the person is. That's a fact.
And so Landon Dickerson might be the strongest person in the world. Okay.
And he's 23. I'm like, dude, you look like fucking a grizzly bear.
That's so perfect. Yeah, I get what you're saying.
And you're right. If you see someone with a lot of back hair, like stay away.
It's all man strength. That's testosterone.
You can feel it. Yeah, it is.
Yeah. And that shirt in the sweater stops right there at the crease of his shirt, too.
So, he's been matching it up with it. Who's the guy on your defensive line that's hardest to block in practice? I know, obviously, you guys aren't doing full-speed practice anymore, but, like, dude, you're not moving Limbaugh out of a hole.
He's like a statue statue just sitting there you're not going to move him sue's hard uh yeah those two uh jordan davis he's a big boy some big dudes yeah yeah some real big if you don't get their their feet moving like on the play if it's a run play if they're just sitting there holding then you have no they're just leaning forward waiting you got to get them across their feet and then push yeah their foot's in there, that's when you can drive them off the ball. But if you don't have a good angle, you're just going to get jousted.
Yeah. We saw Sue when we were walking in here, and when he walked past me, I was scared.
I love Sue. He's a nice guy.
He might be my favorite player on this team. I don't think he likes him.
He hit a whole lot of people. Yeah.
I don't think – like what was funny, he don't go out after games and shake hands. He doesn't – he's like, why am I going to shake hands with my opponent after I just fought the man for three hours? Yeah.
I was like, you got a point. And then he said, I will celebrate when we win the Super Bowl.
I don't even think he went out there last time. Oh, shit.
I was like, that's pretty gangster. Yeah.
I mean, he's a very nice guy. We had him on the show one time, and we enjoyed hanging out with him.
But, God damn, is he terrifying. He's super smart too like it's all about his money the finances uh he's into that and uh yeah man i mean just watching him from where he was in college to now he's had a long career i think it's like 35 36 he's been around for a while and he still gets it done yeah hasn't missed a game we play this game with everybody that comes on the show.
It's called Haters Say. Haters Say.

The haters say that you guys haven't played anybody in the playoffs.

Your response to the haters?

We've had two opponents, the Giants,

and nobody thought they were a good team.

And then 49ers, which was a good team.

I don't know.

We beat them.

But it wasn't what was bad about us.

The second half, they didn't really have a chance to compete.

That's what people didn't like.

Yeah. So he couldn't throw.
I've never seen that in the game. Out of all my games that I've played, I've never seen that.
I think if he would have stayed healthy, it would have been a much closer game. Yeah.
Did you know that you guys had the game won in the third quarter? It's like, well, they can't. They have no passing off it.
Yeah. But really, man, you can't breathe until that game's over.
Stout's over there. Just Al Pacino in any given day.
I sit next to Isaac. Isaac doesn't say a whole lot, so he keeps me very, my energy level.
I'm going to stay to homeostasis. That's good.
That's the only thing haters say. Well, haters also say you false start, but we address that.
Yeah. You don't.
The haters are idiots. That's a Joe Rogan conspiracy theory.
Yeah's exactly right they just screenshot moments are like look see no you don't know ball yeah no you don't know haters say that it's all scripted that you already know who's going to win so what does your script say i just don't know the script this week yeah there's some parts when you're playing you're like i like shit kind of looks scripted uh yeah yeah just clip that out clip that part uh no but it would be funny if uh there was parts that were yeah i don't even know how this stuff started this stuff started like three weeks ago went viral i'm just weird what was the origin it was weird i don't know i have no idea it was me you started yeah it was me i was i was talking to arian foster on the other podcast and so i i was And so I was joking with him, and he's joking with me. And I was just like, so you were telling me before we started taping that the NFL is all scripted.
He was serious. No, he was playing along.
Oh, he was playing along. Yeah, and he was like, well, yeah, I used to get my script and would say, okay, you're going to have a hamstring injury week two, and then you're going to score three touchdowns.
But the internet stopped. And he said, like, oh, in training camp, they rehearsed the script over the script over and over well there is some truth in it so actually we do have like like the first 15 scripts that's like the first 15 plays okay so it's scripted yeah so it doesn't all go accordingly if the defense doesn't match up but uh we have 15 plays where it's like uh it's matching i always thought the first 15 play script it usually it looks really good teams come out firing why not just run it back no one would expect it maybe do it in reverse say it again do the first 15 scripted plays and then just do it in reverse yeah 15 scripted again because they always look good yeah i guess adjustments if you're vaping it'd be hard to pick that up yeah yeah i mean like if you have like, if you have 15 plays that you run, they would not be able to tell that you're doing the same plays.
Yeah, if you just reverse it. Or just do it again in the same order.
Yeah. Y'all are sports psychos.
I mean, we would be great coaches. All you need is 15 plays to be a good coach.
I feel like we do make it a whole lot more complicated than what it needs to be. Yeah.
Football's a simple game. It's about match-ups.
And, hey, man, don't make it too – It's man-on-man violence. Yeah, pretty much.
That's it. How much of a standard play call when you're in the huddle do you actually have to pay attention to as offensive linemen? So he'll usually say the formation, the route to the receiver, and then there'll be like 50s or 60s projection, like a pass play.
So I'm just listening to the very end. And then sometimes we'll go to the line and we'll have, you know, one, two, sometimes even three plays that we can audible to, depending on the look that we get.
Do you ever zone out? Yeah. Like, wait, what did he say? That's why the guy that's next to me is one of the smartest dudes on the field because he ain't missing shit.
He's just telling you, like, hey, dude, I saw your eyes glaze over there. You ever, You ever get up to the line and you're like, oh, shit, I forgot what the play was? 50%, 40% of the time? No, we usually go, what's the snap count? That's number one.
Ask any offense stacker. That's what they're going to say.
What's the snap count? Yeah. I'll figure it out as we go.
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My two last questions I want Max and Roan to ask because they are Philly guys.

They're Eagles fans.

They're going to the Super Bowl.

But he has a Cowboys hat on.

No, this is the boys.

No.

Buster with the boys.

Hey, exactly.

So I get off the elevator this morning, 7 o'clock. I'm still in the days.
This dude goes, why in the hell are you wearing a Cowboys hat? I said, it's a barstool fucking hat they gave me, you dumbass. I wasn't in the good mood.
But anyways, there was some fan in there, and I'm like, he was serious attacking me. I was like, hey, bro, easy.
Didn't you see George Kittle wear this shit last week? Yeah. It's a multi-year-old.
It's a rain, bro. I'm just trying to be supportive of teammates.
I was like, no, Lane, please. But, dude, it really has been, like, one of the funnest Eagle seasons of my fucking life, dude.
It's just been, like, even, like, the year they won the Super Bowl, like, Carson gets hurt. So, it's like there's all this doubt.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Different team.
It's such an incredibly fun ride. And I think one of the most marquee plays of the season are those quarterback sneaks that you guys are just smashing up the middle.
And I feel like it seems like it's just leverage getting lower, but there has to be something more why it's working so well this year. Is it just because Jalen's like strong as hell or like what? Why? It's that.
And then, the formation. Like, we're, like, in a flying V and we just make a spear.
So, it's like we're all trying to – our aiming points is, like, the inside of our guard's, like, shoulder. So, yeah, it just started out as something we were doing a lot.
And then we noticed, you know, had a lot of success on it. And we never stopped.
But, like I said, the Chicago game, I feel like there's a couple times we didn't convert. But other than that, we're pretty money on that.
When you talk about the sphere and just driving, that sounds like an ancient warfare. Speaking of spirit, did you know Indomitian Sioux means house of spears? Does it really? That's badass.
He's so fucking scary. That's the most badass name I've ever heard.
Yeah, he's a legend, dude. Dude, I mean, I want Max to ask a question, dude,

but my only thing is just like I'm trying to picture what you saw

during that parade, dude,

how it felt when you actually won that Super Bowl,

when you're going down Broad Street,

those emotions that you felt going on that float

and, like, being able to be like we've done it,

throngs of people around you like a conquering Roman emperor. And what's it take to get that feeling one more time? I just didn't realize the average person's ability to climb.
So, like, I'm seeing guys on the sidewalk, and the next thing, there's different levels. People are in the trees, telephone poles on top of bus stations.
So, like, the levels was impressive. But it just means so much to the city.
Like, when you have people pouring out their ashes at the parade, that's that's like a different level of respect. But like I said, this team is a little bit different than the 2017 teams.
I felt like we weren't expected to do much, whereas this season, like we had a talented roster, we were expected to at least do something in the playoffs and make some noise. So got the experience, a little bit of both of it.
In a way, you're going to be grave digging again. If you win the Super Bowl, there's going to be more ashes.
Somebody's got a big mind. Yeah, yeah.
All right, Max. All right.
Max, don't cry. First of all, I want to say that I love you.
I love you. Wait, what'd you say? Those Jordans.
It's an interesting story about why he's wearing those Jordans. You know how Taylor Heineke buys a pair of Jordans every time he beats a team? Really? So when the Commanders, you just told me I had forgotten they beat the Eagles on Monday Night Football.
I bought those for Max in Eagles colors as his Christmas present. So that's kind of a walk-in reminder.
That looks like the Jets colors, but keep on. Don't say that to me.
Don't say that. This is more of a historical, not historical, but playing with Jason Peters.
One thing that I noticed watching you play with Peters is that I don't think I've seen anyone get more angry after a late hit. Can you tell me what would happen in the huddle after something like that? what did he bring to the huddle after he got in someone's face and beat someone up after someone hit the quarterback? He'd bring a heavy breath back to the huddle because he'd be tired.
Sometimes whooping ass is pretty taxing, so he'll come back to the huddle out of breath. But I don't know if you respect that.
I saw him against Chris Baker. They were the Redskins now, but now they're the commanders back.
I think he was like 15 or 16, and he just went over there and just –

when they hit Nick on the sideline, remember?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that was pretty funny to watch.

Yeah, man, I mean, it's like if you don't do something,

then you're going to take L on the internet or amongst your friends,

especially if like your quarterback or something gets hit

and you don't do shit about it, you just let it happen. Yeah, you've got to believe that as a line.
But there's a fine line on what you can do. Max also wants to know who he should contact if you guys do win for him to get into the party after.
I didn't say that. Big Dom.
Okay. So there you go.
Big Dom. Dom DeSondra.
All right. I've led you to the name.
Big Dom. Yeah, Big Dom.
Big Dom is a big man. That would be great if you guys – I mean, this would be a perfect ending to – we could put this as a clip where it's like you guys see each other on the dance floor after the Super Bowl and Lane's like, you got Big Dom.
Yeah. Big Dom got you.
So Big Cat bought me a ticket to the game, but if you lose, I owe him $6,000. Yeah.
So he and Roan are going, I paid for it. And if the Eagles win, it's free.
And if the Chiefs win, they have to pay me back. Well, get your rest up, buddy.
It's a long Sunday. It's a long Sunday.
It's a long Sunday. But, yeah, we're rooting for you, man.
We appreciate you giving us some time. I know it's Super Bowl week, Super Bowl week, so it was awesome when we saw, like, Lane's down to come on.
So, you know. Enjoy the weather out here.
It's a lot different than the East Coast. Yeah, it is.
And best of luck on Sunday. And, yeah, we're rooting for you, man.
Thank you. I look forward to it.
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There we go. And so to set the stage, Jersey Jerry's here.
He's going to be part of this interview. Jersey Jerry is, I would say, T.J.
Watt's number one fan. There's no one who rides for you harder.

He has an armband with all your stats on it,

and he tries to get people to get into arguments with him

about who's the best defensive player in the NFL.

So he is like, if you need something done,

he would do it in a second.

He would kill for you.

He'd die for you.

Everything.

That's a good guy to have in your corner. Anything.
Yeah there anything that you would not do for TJ? I don't think I would kill myself. That's good.
That's the one thing. That's the one thing.
Then you wouldn't be able to watch TJ play football. What I love about that point.
What I love about that is you've clearly thought about that before. Yeah.

And you knew where the line was.

Exactly.

Everything else is on the table.

That's the line.

All right.

So PFT and I have some questions.

But why don't we start with you, Jerry?

You have a list of questions.

Yes.

I have two full pages.

Two full pages.

We might not get into everything, and that's okay.

But first, I wanted to apologize.

And here's why.

I was a little relentless in the DMs with you and Danny over all these years.

Hey, can you ask TJ to wish me a happy birthday? My wife oh wait you don't know this tj no okay so jerry has dm'd your wife multiple times regarding asking to wish you a happy birthday asking if you would play madden with him yeah it was his birthday though. It was my birthday.
You didn't know this. What was the end goal? You thought she was going to see it and just...
I thought she would see it and say, Hey, you know, TJ says happy birthday. Or, hey, TJ says he can't play Madden, but I talked to him.
Do you think she saw and just didn't relay it? No, she never read it. She never read the message.
He went back. Can you pull one up and just read it to us? Just if we have an idea.
In this scenario, TJ, I understand the concern. He's DMing your wife.
But I think it's the most innocuous DMing of a wife possible. He's just honestly trying to get you to wish him a happy birthday.
Yes. And it's also just to give a little more context.
He's done it with other players.

He DMed Juju Smith Schuster's mom and was basically like.

Yeah, but I was a bit younger.

He was 25.

He said it would make a young boy's dream if Juju would play Madden with me.

She's like, oh, your son?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no.
His name's Jerry. Yeah, Jerry.
Those weren't the exact words. Yeah, they were pretty close.
They were close, though. They were close.
Yeah. So he's in the DMs trying to do work.
It's crazy she never brought him up. No.
No. No.
I know what I'm talking about. No, so I figured I'd apologize right off the bat.
Well, he didn't know. Yes.

But that's an apology.

It's good, though.

You cleared the air before it got messy.

That was such a genuine my wife.

Yeah, I got the message.

So this is in 2020.

Would you be able to pass along a message to TJ for me?

My birthday's coming up, and it's hard for me to get in contact with my favorite player ever.

I'm just a regular guy but a diehard Steelers fan i love for my birthday wish to come true unread never read it damn never read it never look where we are now yeah it's amazing all right so the apology accepted we're good awesome all right i don't know if that's the first question i don't know where we're going. No, that was a good one.
That was a question. That was just a statement.
Yeah, that was just a statement. That was just let's get this off, you know.
But listen, you had a tough year, I would say. The injury, you know, set you back a little bit.
Do you feel like you rushed back a little bit? And were you ever 100% after the injury? I don't know if I rushed back. I mean, they always say coaches need to protect players from themselves, and it's tough when we were kind of skidding like we were, and I think we were 2-6 at one point, and I wanted to get back as quickly as possible.
But also it's tough when you have J.J. and Derek who have gone through the same kind of injuries, and they're like, hey, you need to have the best interest of yourself in situations like this.
so it's kind of a push and pull of doing what's best for you and for the team um no I mean I don't know if I ever fully got to 100 I think it took me a while and uh towards the end of those like last game or two I started to feel a lot better but um I think the mental aspect of it also played a role this year so so off that question um I know you know football's a team sport the Watt brothers are the ultimate teammates but when you see the stat that's like the Steelers with and without TJ Watt is a part of you all time what is it one in ten all time yeah are you like damn I'm I'm I actually probably am that good no I mean I mean there's a couple other players that were out and in when I'm in as well. So, I mean, like I said, it is the ultimate team game.

That's why I love football so much.

But I just try to bring some intangibles as well.

It's not always the on-field performance.

I mean, as Jerry knows, I didn't play as well as I'm used to playing this season.

But when that's not the case, you have to make sure that you increase the intangible stuff,

trying to get the best out of everybody around you, trying to be a force multiplier for your team.

And that's just what I'm trying to do, especially as I grow older into my leadership role.

Thank you. stuff, trying to get the best out of everybody around you, trying to be a force multiplier for your team.

And that's just what I'm trying to do, especially as I grow older into my leadership role.

I like that.

You mentioned hearing from JJ, who's gone through some of the same stuff.

Pretty simple question for you about your family.

Who do your parents love the most?

You, JJ, or Derek?

I mean, they went to a whole bunch of JJ's games this year.

I don't know if it was his retirement or if he was the favorite, but they weren't at a lot of mine compared to his.

That's interesting.

I'm somber about it.

You've got two brothers on the Steelers.

Also, J.J. said that he would consider coming back to play for the Steelers if you guys threw a bag at him next year for a playoff run.

10 million week 17.

Yeah, 10 million starting week 17.

He would come back and play for the Steelers.

He obviously hasn't communicated that to you. Do you feel like maybe he's coming to take your job? He might want to.
Yeah. I mean, he's conquered the Houston area.
He's conquered the Arizona area. Now he might be coming for Pittsburgh as well.
But I don't know. Do we have enough cap space to make that happen? Yeah, we can clear a couple things.
We can look at it. We have about $40 million.
If we make the right about 40 million okay we make the right cuts have you guys ever talked about potentially playing together the three of you was that something that was ever brought up i think it was when he was leaving houston he was actually in like true free agency it was like brushed on briefly but uh when it comes down to the numbers of things you realize it's not very likely yeah i mean that would be torture for hank because of he doesn't know which watt to bet on I think you saw that one. Yeah, I mean, that would be torture for Hank because he doesn't know which Watt to bet on.
Yeah, the Derek Watt. Yeah, I've never seen someone so excited.
I'm sorry. Jerry, next question.
Yeah, for sure. That was a good one.
That was a good way to set it up. We'll want to ask some follow-ups.
I'm feeling it right now. Yeah, you are.
You're in the zone. When you look at the season, right, do you look at it as like it was a successful season, you rookie quarterback, you know, or you look at it as like a failure because you didn't accomplish the ultimate goal, which is a Super Bowl.
And you know Pittsburgh, you know, maybe not so the last decade, but the Steelers way, Mike Tomlin's way, you know, Super Bowl playoff wins. It hasn't been like that in the last decade.
But do you look at it as like we failed, we totally failed, or it was a success? I think it's somewhere in the middle. Obviously, like you said, being a Pittsburgh Steel fan, you're used to the playoffs, and the playoffs is the bar to get you in, and you just want to be able to have a chance to get in and make a run, and we started out very slow, but we also had a lot of young talent, I mean, but with that comes guys that want to buy into the process.
You're're sitting at two and six Mike Tomlin's able to gather the troops and really get us to buy in and I said earlier we did I think as many padded practices you possibly could for the season and we needed it for the young team that we were and we just continue to get better and better each and every week I think we just ran out of time but we have a good core nucleus of guys that we can build upon that for next year for sure what is it about mike tomlin that it's it's crazy because i i've i used to be like oh i you know when the whole ben levy on bell antonio brown stuff was going on it's like he's got to get control of the locker room and now i look back and i'm like no he actually had he he did better than anyone could have done with what was going on like Like, what does he do with the players that makes him so likable? And always, you guys are always feel like you're in it towards the end of the season, even if you start slow or have a bad, you know, year, you know, cause this year wasn't great, but you ended up nine and eight and had a chance on, on the last Sunday of the season to make the playoffs. What is it about coach Tom? He's just really, he knows how to understand people and how to get the most out of them.
I tell people all the time, we come from so many different backgrounds, different states. This is a football team.
And how do you get each and every individual motivated differently? And he does such a good job of getting to know you as the person. And he'll ask you about your family.
He'll ask me, how's my wife doing? Things like that, that might not seem like it goes a long way, but it makes those little things make you want to buy in that much more for him and um like you say

our back was against the wall at one point and not much changes it's the same messaging it's just

maybe a little different way to say it and uh we bought in and we we started to win some games but

we just ran out of time yeah this year you had a quarterback change for the first time in a long

time in Pittsburgh did Big Ben ever show up like preseason during the season just was he ever

I'm sorry. Yeah, this year you had a quarterback change for the first time in a long time in Pittsburgh.
Did Big Ben ever show up like preseason during the season?

Just was he ever around the facility just sniffing around like maybe maybe I'm not done.

Maybe my body feels pretty good.

I didn't see any.

Did you see any of that?

I didn't see any.

No.

You didn't see that in the locker room?

No.

Kenny's the guy.

Kenny's the guy.

Was it weird not having Ben around, though, just because he's been an institution. He's been there for so long, it felt like he was the Pittsburgh Steelers of the 2000s? Yeah, I mean, it was definitely different, but it was a nice chance for some guys to find a voice.
And for us, different guys talking in the huddle, things like that. And just also just there was kind of this turnover.
We're just so young. And you have so many guys that had so much success in college that they didn't really know how to handle sometimes failure in the NFL.

And losing isn't necessarily a failure.

You just have to learn from it and learn how to grow

and how to practice and be a true professional.

And having a good group of young guys with also like a good mix of middle-aged guys

and you've got like Cam Ayer, the really old-ass dudes,

that keep us all connected.

Yeah, I mean, we're big Kenny fans. Terry's actually showered at his house.
I showered, yeah. Is that when we faced? Hopefully that wasn't the same face.
No, that was the other time. Yeah, that was last year.
He was actually in the shower at the Super Bowl last year. We FaceTimed Jerry after the TJ interview, and Jerry picked it up.
He's just got a towel holding on. Well, I should have been there for the interview.
Yeah. Well, you're here now.
I'm here now, which is amazing. Right.
All right. So you got a bunch.
Yeah, let's get really into it. You want to do the rapid fire? Can we do a little rapid, TJ? I did a little rapid fire.
Yeah. Questions.
And if you don't want to answer, just say pass. And that's totally fine with me.
We'll start off. Go to meal after a football game.

Pizza.

Okay.

What do you think about that, Jerry?

That's good.

It's a good choice.

Not all the time.

No, yeah, but that's a good choice.

Okay, but I mean, it's kind of... A little bit carb heavy, but we get the body back a little bit.

You have to replenish.

Of course, I understand that.

Let's see here.

When was the last time you cried?

Ooh.

My wedding.

I figured that. When was the last time you cried, Ooh.
My wedding. I figured that.

When was the last time you cried, Jerry?

This morning.

Okay.

What happened?

I was doing this.

He's getting ready for this.

All right.

Bath or shower?

Shower.

Okay.

Steroids are all natural.

All natural.

Excuse me.

This.

Yeah.

All natural.

Come on, Jerry.

Perfect.

Six star whey protein.

Okay. Like I said, you can just pass on some of these.
Pro-vax or anti-vax? Pass. Okay.
That's fine. Wait, did you say pass on the vax or pass on the question? I'm just going to pass it.
That's fine. I understand.
I mean, you're supposed to be in my corner here. I'm in your corner.
No, he just wants to know Jerry's anti-vax. So he's hoping that you would come out strongly in his court.

I'm staying out of the weeds on all of you.

Okay, we only got a few more.

The bedtime routine.

Are you an underwear, no shirt guy, a pajama set guy?

That's just.

How long did it take you to come up with that?

Hours.

Yeah, he's been thinking about that though.

Shorts.

Last one. We'll do this.

Deshaun Watson, guilty or innocent.

Pass.

I think you got what? Two answers out there? You got three.

You missed 100% of the shots that you don't take.

Those were good rapid fire.

Baccarat 540 or Townford Oudwood?

Jerry Fragrance about to pull something out.

He's about to pull something out.

A little test.

Okay.

This is called...

Well, these are travels.

This is called Afternoon Swim by Louis Vuitton.

I want you to try that.

It looks like Jerry's passing him cologne now.

I've never seen one.

Travel pieces of cologne. Yeah, you put your wrist on.
What do you to try that. It looks like a lipstick.
Jerry's passing him cologne now. I've never seen one.
Travel pieces of cologne. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you can put your wrist on. Put your wrist on.
What do you think about that? It's fresh. It is fresh.
Very good. Very fresh.
You like that one? Now we'll do this one. We'll see which one you like.
Summer? Summer, yes. This is called Tom Ford Tuscan leather, and I'm wearing it.
If you want to smell me. No, I'd rather do this.

That's fine.

I get it.

Oh, that's way... No.

Wow, too strong.

You should have worn the other one today.

The last one, you probably have that one, Baccarat 540.

Shit.

That's good.

Yeah, that's good.

You like that?

I got my wife Baccarat because you were putting a Baccarat 540.

Oh, love that.

I got her for Christmas this year. I love it.
540. Yes.
You're making a difference. Making a difference.
All right, so Jerry, back to the regular questions. What else do we got? For sure.
We can. I want to get a little bit deeper on Mike Tomlin.
You know, like as a fan, for me, it's just like I love the guy. He seems like a great motivator.
He really does. But it just seems to me like...
Do you call him mediocre Mike? I don't think you can find that anywhere. Okay.
I don't think you can find that anywhere. Honestly, I don't think you can find that anywhere.
I got a few videos. All right.
Well, that's fine. Now, it seems to me like, at times...
He's good under pressure. He's more like a friend than a coach at times.
So, like, how is it, like, after the year is over, is it like, oh, great job, men, you know what I mean? This group of guys will never be here again, so appreciate the times. We came up short, but we'll get them next year.
What's that like? I'll go in the beginning of the season. So, we have training camp, right? So, cool guy you can have a conversation with him we'll be talking like this and then we'll go into a team meeting and we have what's called the big board so it shows like there'll be competition periods throughout practice throughout the whole week he'll put the big board it's competition like this guy versus this guy you're like man we just had a cool ass conversation out there we're in good terms and big board comes on you're like please don't have me up there my bad reps bam he'll roast your bad reps in front of everybody so i mean it's it's all about holding you accountable while i think there's a good balance i think he has the great balance and um he's had so much success because of it i don't think i mean we've been scolded before it's just he keeps a lot of things in house in house and i respect him for that gotcha that's a good answer great answer yeah we've been scolded before.
It's just he keeps a lot of things in-house, in-house, and I respect him for that. That's a good answer.
Great answer. We've been big fans of Kenny Pickett's hands.
We think that they were severely underrated going into the draft. He actually has perfectly normal-sized hands.
Have you gotten to observe them while you shake them? What's your opinion being a guy that's around him all the time on his hands? I've never – honestly, all the coverage on it, I've never looked at his hands. Yeah.
He didn't really have fumbling issues. No.
He played pretty good. He rocks the two gloves too, doesn't he? Yeah.
Kenny, two gloves. We don't like – when he does the visor, we're not a big fan.
I know, but that helmet's tough to do without a visor. Yeah.
It looks like a NASCAR helmet. It's good for him, though.
But no quarterback who wears a visor has ever won the Super Bowl. Well, he's flirting with a double deal because no quarterback with a visor has ever won one.
Big Ben wore one in the Super Bowl one year, but that's the year that he lost. He had a broken nose at the time.
And then no quarterback with long hair has won the Super Bowl since, I guess, you'd have to go back to Joe Theismann or maybe Kenny Stabler when he had it. And he's kind of got the lettuce hanging out the bottom.
But he gets a trim. He gets a trim.
Oh, yeah. What is classified, see the name or not see the name? Yeah.
Could you win a Super Bowl with your hair? Absolutely not. I would be a god-awful NFL quarterback just because my hair is too long.
That's the only reason. But I'm saying, you should just have a word with him and be like, hey, you look like kind of a dirty hippie sometimes.
you just trim it up maybe the rest of the team the standard becomes a standard instead of the standard being you know Woodstock keep it above the name yeah right above the name right yes the speaking of hair um I have a question for you TJ so is there a specific time every year that you shave your head because Jerry uh did you see that clip yeah after the buy I don't know yeah so maybe that Maybe that's just coincidentally. It's usually somewhere in the middle of the season.
You take a lot off the top and you go for the bully cut, which is the bully cut. We were sitting watching football one Sunday in the gambling cave, and they showed you on the sideline.
And Jerry just out of nowhere, he's like, I love when TJ cuts his hair like that. And we're like, what? And then he's like, yeah, after the bye week, he always goes to the bully cut.
So is that a planned thing? I usually like to do it once a year. I definitely do.
I mean, I wear beanies all winter long. So I'm just like, I might as well just toss on a hat.
But I do like the mentality of I don't have to fuck with my hair at all. I can just roll out of bed, go to work, not mess with anything else, cut out all distractions.
So, I mean, it's definitely part of it. Yeah, he likes that hair.
I mean, I like you look more intimidating like that. When you got like in the beginning of the year, you usually have a little bit longer hair and it's like, he's not really in bully season yet.
And then after the bye, you turn it up. I was trying to hold a straight face and give you an intimidating look.
It's all serious. It's all serious.
He likes bully mode. Yeah, I do.
Do you ever look at yourself and you're like bully season? If I have a bad game and you tell me I need to bully ball, I'm going to tell you to get the hell out of here. No.
Leave me alone, all right? I will. I will.
I know. What if he tells your wife? Yeah.
She won't see it? She won't see it. I'm done with that.
Another question I had is this. Now, who do you gravitate towards after a game? Would it be like a guy like me who's gone through all these battles and wars for you and had your back? Or would you gravitate towards an eight-year-old kid who's at a game for the first time giving something away? Like a jersey.
You're saying like a tunnel or something or after a game? Yeah, you give your gloves or something like that. If you've seen me and an eight-year-old kid next to me, it's like, hey, TJ, it's my first Steelers game.
Then you see me. Are you giving the gloves to me or are you giving it to the kid, you think? I don't know where this is going.
This could go somewhere else where they were with JJ. No, no, it's a period.
I think I'm going to the kid. Gotcha.
Okay. I saw you in Miami.
Yes. I only say that because 2019, we were playing the Jets.
I think it was 19 or 20. We were.
Yeah, we were. We were.
We were playing the Jets. He's in your foxhole.
Yeah. It was in East Rutherford, and I had a sign.
And I said, hey, TJ, it's your biggest fan. And pregame, you've seen it, and I had a and and the bottom of the sign it said please sign this and you looked at me you looked at me and uh you were like you gave me a nod like I got you and then you just never came you gave it to a kid no it's so hard I believe it like when you come on warm-ups and there's just so many people that like have steers, have signs, and it's like you truly can't get to everybody.
It's so hard to show appreciation for people and then not let them down. So it's like, in that situation, I'm sorry.
All good. Maybe your hand was covering the please sign.
Maybe. Can we write that wrong, maybe? Hold on.
Hold on. He got to apologize.
I apologize. Oh, wow.
Thank you. That i apologize oh wow friendship but but maybe we can go even one further but maybe we can go one further jerry did you did you maybe bring anything that could get signed i might have a couple things yeah Let's knock out the Christmas gift.
Let's see what we got. Let's pull out the bag.
TJ, would you say that Jerry is your biggest fan? Hands down. Okay, there you go.
Jerry, you're officially stamped. His biggest fan.
That was incredible. I really do appreciate it.
We talk about it. Me and Jay, they talk about all the time it is so it's for my son yeah okay it is so cool to have someone in your corner um like yourself so i really do appreciate it wait jerry you're that's not that's not for your son named ebay is it no it's for your real son see one thing people don't understand is like i never sell any of my autographs autographs, ever.
I never have. It's just something I really appreciate.
You know, this is mine, too. He's got two jerseys.
Yeah. I got a couple more things.
He's got a couple more things in the back. Look at that.
Do you have the wristband here? I don't. I wish I bought it.
Do you think that you're the best player in the NFL,ensive-wise? Like, if somebody were to say Aaron Donald is better than you, would you defend yourself with the same vigor that Jerry defends you with? Here, do the cards after Jerry. That's the awesome thing.
You let Jerry do it. The conversations like that are for the fans.
I never want to get into a battle with someone about who's better, who's not. Who am I to say? I respect everybody in the NFL.
It's a personal attack at anybody. So that's why football is so cool and the fans are so cool because they get to go back and forth in a barbershop about it until their heads turn blue.
Yeah. We do think that Aaron Donald's the best defensive player in the NFL.
No. I mean, he's a monster.
I love the laugh. I mean, just foolish, you know, and he'll tell you straight up.
I think he will. That year you got snubbed from the defensive player.
That was ridiculous. I mean, you dismantled every category.
I mean, it's not my vote. But you beat him in every statistical category.
It doesn't do me any well to, like, be upset about it. So do you play with a chip on your shoulder because of that a little bit? A chip is always in the there we go gotcha bully ball what do we got next jerry yeah so obviously you know now since you got drafted i've been a huge supporter big fan now i've been messaging you over the years and there goes back for four or five years now and you know you never really you never actually responded until about this year i would say did you Did you ever see the messages? And if you've seen them, why didn't you respond? I swear I never saw them.
I believe it. What were some of the messages? Because you have messages and you have general.
It goes to the secondary thing. I don't go to see the secondary thing.
But after I saw everything go down on Twitter and stuff where it actually got to me,

I went back and I looked and I always respond.

This is like if the song Stan had a happy ending. That's what I'm looking at

right now. For sure.

Stan and Eminem just went off and became best pals.

So, Jerry, what were some of the messages?

You know, he would put up

a picture.

I'll see if I can find this.

I'd like to see a couple of them. I want to actually hear TJ read them because you might skip over some of those.
Yeah, you definitely would. Nope, not going to say that one.
I think you're nailing this so far. Yeah.
I feel good. I'm in the zone.
Yeah, you are. What would you give yourself as an interviewer right now? No, no.
All I have is back to this year, October 11th. Wow.
So you know what that means?

You might have deleted me.

You might have deleted the...

Oh, no.

Because I go back deep.

Here is one, though.

You're eating enough protein, right, T?

Right, TJ?

Just want to be sure.

Don't skip any meals.

I'd like to add a few more pounds before the playoff push.

Best of luck this week. I was like was like that motherfucker i called you scrawny the amount of times i looked at that picture i zoomed and i go damn i do well yeah he showed me it too he's like look at this picture tj look like he's lost a little weight it's like i don't know yeah and he just put up a picture of these uh i think there's like cinnamon twists or something like that and i got on him i was like hey you know that's not really bully yeah yeah uh jerry j i got a question for you yeah um those shorts that you're wearing right now oh yeah are those those aren't the shorts from the train incident are they they're washed yeah yeah those are the ones that you shit They're washed, though, yeah.
Dude. They're washed.

Wait. So those are the ones that you shit They're washed though, yeah Dude They're washed Wait, so like the biggest day of your life Meeting the athlete you look up to the most And you get ready for it And you put on your shit shorts You know how long it took me to get ready? How do they know that they're the shorts? How do people know that? You can see it in the video Have you seen the video? Is is the sad day bad day yes yes the the the pooping your pants i poop my pants but like you know like i'm in the i wash them because they're they're not cheap you know and i don't like to really buy expensive clothes but when i buy something that's a little bit more pricey i like to you know keep it so take care of it yeah i wash them but it took me a long time to get ready today.
It really did. Yeah.
I had a lot of nerves. Do you have any more questions? Yeah.
Did your mother ever find out about the ash incident? No, never. Thank God.
Never. She doesn't have internet? No one will ever show her? No, she doesn't have social media.
Is she going to listen to this podcast? No. So if she listens to this podcast and finds out that you dropped.
And I drew it. Yeah.
Well, no, it's okay. I'll cover up for you.
You dropped your grandmother's ashes on the ground and had to vacuum some of them up. I mean, she'd be, I mean, I'd take my PS5 controllers away.
I mean, that's probably where she would start. But okay.
I want to talk about this really quick.

Now, for me growing up, the rivalry usually was always the Ravens.

Now Joe Burrow's in the league.

They're good.

They're real good.

That changed, I would assume.

Is that like a game where you guys get up for the most now?

Would it be the Bengals?

I don't know if it's getting up the most.

Obviously the Bengals,

and I don't want to take anything away from the Ravens games. Those are always huge games.
I think it's just the AFC North is pretty stacked at quarterback in general now. So every game is a get-up game, if that makes sense.
No, I get it. Who's your favorite guy to hit? Ooh, the next quarterback.
Yeah. That was one of mine.
That's the right answer. That's the right answer.
But I also want to hear the real answer. What's the most satisfying hit? Maybe not your favorite guy to hit, but looking back on one particular hit that you've had that you're like, damn, that felt good.
And also, you could tell that it hurt the other guy. I don't know if it's hurting.
I think the ultimate is a four sack or sack, fours, fumble, fumble recovery. I had that against Fitzpatrick when he was with the Dolphins.
Yeah, that's kind of elder abuse, though. He's like an old Harvard professor.
You're taking some of the credit away from myself? I thought you were going to talk about the playoff one where you almost won Hank a lot of money. Oh.
That was a nice play, too. Yeah, I mean, you can't single any out, man.
Hitting anybody's fun. When it comes to football.
Is there one game that you look back on and you're like, that's my best game that I've played in the NFL so far? No. It quite possibly could have been week one.
This year. Could have been that.
It could have been. But you said I don't come out starting the season as bully ball.
So how does that make sense? Just the look. Just the look factor.
At the time, we watched it together, and Jerry was screaming, this is bully ball. TJ, you're being a bully at the TV.
Well, there's also. Because you kind of won that game.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was frustrating to feel like I had a great offseason. And then to be able to start out the season, the first game how I did, and then to get hurt like one of the last plays of the game was very unfortunate yeah but uh yeah that's why I was trying to get back and then when you come back you're just trying to get back to that and it's hard to do that when you're coming off of an injury and um not fully healthy for sure now there's a clip a viral clip about um third quarter six minutes left Heinz Field um Baker Mayfield goes back for a pass.
this is like a year or two ago he goes back for a pass and you swat it down and you point to him right what did you say do you remember because it's it sounded like you said you suck bitch no no it he gets bad down a lot so it's just something like you're gonna have to fucking throw it over it over, throw it higher next time. We're going to bet it down all day.
Just something a little. Are you like a trash talker on the field? Really? You're not allowed to point because it's like nothing.
Wow. I didn't know that.
Can you gesture with like your whole hand like a grand, you bitch? I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. Now, I don't want to take anything away from Jerry here, but I technically have been a TJ Watt fan longer than he has.
Yeah. So, has, I mean.
That's fine. Keep going.
It's true. It might be.
Yeah, go. Well, I mean, he played for my college team.
I agree. I agree, Dan.
Go. Yeah, last time we talked, we were trying to work on repairing the program.
Yeah. How do you feel?

Yeah.

Has Fickle reached out to you?

No.

You need to get the Watt brothers back in the mix.

I know JJ has had some connection with him.

I haven't had any connection with him.

I have a buddy who is in the offices up there,

so I'm trying to get up there sometime this spring to just kind of meet everybody.

Yeah.

There's so much excitement around the program that I just want to be a part of it.

It's legitimately probably the most excited I've been since you guys were in school, since you and JJ and Derek. Sorry Jerry.
I didn't mean to. No it's fine.
It's your show. You're a bigger fan but I've for the years.
Of course. I understand.
I just didn't want you to make me look like hey I'm just some flim flam fan. I don't think that that is what anyone will take away from this interview.
That's fine. I don't think anyone's going to think that you're a flim flam fan.
I just want to make sure that we're on the same page. I got a couple more.
Not too many, though. Now, do you think it's beneficial for the Steelers organization to have me around at camp and do some? Would you lobby for me to do some water work? Keep the guys hydrated, you know, in the hot heat in the camp and stuff like that you know you guys are sweating you guys are tired jersey jerry's there he's hydrating you guys you think it's beneficial you crapped your pants on a train was it yeah catastrophe how are you gonna make it on the sideline through all the off-season heat i'll be okay that sounds like it was a food related issue though yeah as long as you stick to like yeah you stick to simple like like a dog getting over a sickness you just eat like boiled white rice and hamburger meat yeah and i think your intestine should be good to go yeah i think i'd be good jerry i think i think you'd be a great asset honestly because it's all about energy and excitement and i think more of us need to understand that we're living the dream and that we're here for a reason i think that you you would bring that to the sideline for sure.
Jerry also, he's said that he would leave all of Barstool. He'd leave everything to be a water boy.
Yeah. If it paid what? $50,000 a year? $50,000.
I don't think that's what water boys make. I don't know what they make.
Yeah. I mean, I would leave $50,000.
Yeah. I could raise a family.
What's your selling points? For me? Yeah. Never late, on time.

I'm a big motivator.

I'm a big fan of the Steelers organization.

I'm funny.

I'm a little bit witty at times.

But yeah, I'm just- Smell good?

I smell great always.

You know what I mean?

And I'll just be a ride or die.

I'll be there for you guys.

If anything breaks around the stadium, you can fix it too.

Great point.

Yes.

I'm a union pipe fitter.

There we go.

Yeah.

Shout out. Wait, are you still in the union? I was a union pipe fitter there we go yeah shout out wait are you still in the union i was a union pipe okay okay it's good you're like a handyman you can fix anything i can do anything usually so if you ever need any hey jerry you know electric give me a call i'll come over all right take care all right what else you got jerry um let's see hear what's it like it like to you to be a Steeler? Like, what does that mean to you? It's awesome.
The people is what makes it so special, and it's not only just the fans. Like I say, when you go to Giant Eagle, people will nudge you and say, good game, good luck, why are we blitzing so damn much, little things like that.
And then as far as just, like, having the tradition, like I said, it's very unfortunate the passing of Franco, but he was around a lot, and that's what makes that play so special. As Coach Tomlin always says, the guys that come back, they don't want anything from you.
They just want to be a part of it, and they want to teach you the Steeler way. And I think that kind of encompasses what makes the legacy continue to grow and why we take so much weight of when we don't make the playoffs,

when we don't perform, because we know what the city

and the former players who paved the way deserve.

For sure.

Love it.

Good question.

And I'm going to put you on the spot a little bit.

Could you ever picture yourself in another uniform?

No.

I hope I never have to.

Love it.

Love it. I made my day.
Yeah, that was it right there yeah that was the money shot yeah um all right so tj the six star whey protein we got to get jerry on it yeah that's if you're committed jerry you should be on a full training regimen i would do it for that yeah yeah the tj 90 method yeah why don't we get tj to get send you a workout done and then we and we'll do it and we'll chart your that'll be like if you don't if you don't perform tj's gonna be let down of course i i do anything in my power to make this work you're sort of killing yourself yes yes i won't do that okay that will not be on the list of things but it's been a great interview tj thank you so much we appreciate you stopping by hopefully, you guys can do dinner sometime. Yes, we still need to.
Talk about, I texted you before we came out here. I said, are you going to be out here? We should do dinner.
And you kind of left it out there. Whoa.
No, no, no. You know what? I've been saying for a while that Big Cat's been a big fan of TJ Watts for a while.
I would go to dinner. I'm not a, you may not think this, but I'm not that type of guy I'm not gonna put the pressure on you like hey TJ you still have to bring me to dinner you know I mean you dm'd his wife to ask to play I know that's why I started those three years ago that's why I started with I'm not usually that type of guy but hey I mean I'm I'm free I'm free now I'm free tonight you know we might figure it out this Oh, hell yes.
I'd like to come. Can he come? It's good to come.
He's coming to me. All right.
Done. Can I come? Of course.
Done. Let's do it.
Love it. Well, TJ, thanks again, man.
Appreciate it. You made a young boy's dream today.
Awesome. I'm glad.
Jerry's going to be ear to ear for a while for this. I think he only has like six trading cards for you to sign.
You're going to be here for a while. No, it's only three or four.
That's it. In all honesty, though, I truly do appreciate it.
I really do. I love it.
I love it. All right.
Well, thanks so much, TJ. Thanks, guys.
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Okay, let's wrap up Super Bowl week. Fire Fest of the week.
It's been a great week. It's been an awesome week.
Yeah. I love Super Bowl week.
Yeah. Very fun.
Well, the mini golf was great. Mini golf was great.
Thanks everyone for tuning in. Jake crushed it.
You guys crushed it you guys crushed it everyone crushed it thank you we all crushed it my first time uh being in in the truck for a big broadcast like that it was it was chaos yeah did jake thank you at the end of the show of course class act constantly professional in the truck not individually but just the truck one of my favorite things about jake was after the after the Arizona bowl was over and we were getting ready to leave.

We had to wait for Jake to get into the car because he was making a point to walk around and thank everybody in the truck for all their help during the

broadcast.

Gotta go in the truck after the class act through and through.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Firefest tank.

Firefest.

We went out to dinner last night after mini golf.

Dave took a bunch of like basically it was like 20 people out to dinner. Very nice steakhouse.
I had fried lobster for the first time in my life. That's all I've been thinking about.
It was the most delicious thing I've ever ate. Oh, that sounds great.
So did you stay to the end? Yeah, a lot of great food, a lot of good wine. At the very end of that, it was like 11.45.
We were there for probably three and a half hours. Brandon Walker and his wife got up and and just left they didn't really even say goodbye they just kind of walked out brandon left 20 on on his chair which was wild and then caleb and tay Caleb and will walked out shortly after but they kind of dapped everyone up and then walked out and i was going out with them after i went to the bathroom came back and dave was and everyone was like I can't believe they left before the bill came out that's crazy disrespectful move I was like yeah that is that is kind of a wild move at the time I thought Dave was like paying for the bill it had paid for the bill at that point I was a little drunk and then I left so I acknowledged I acknowledged how crazy of a move it was walked out got in the cat got in the car with them and then i was getting texts like did you actually just leave and i was like i kind of hit me i was like oh boy i also left yeah uh so you know disrespectful move by me obviously got a lot of a lot of heat for it on the internet big mistake big fire fest yeah that was a big mistake did you leave 20 hours on your chair i got banned from going to dinners for 10 years did you leave money on your chair i did not leave money on the chair that's actually almost worse is to leave 20 bucks on your chair so then somebody has to pick up your like butt sweat 20 that's barely gonna make a dent and we left on the table they were like did brandon leave and and they're like well he left 20 on the table so i think that was his sign that he left uh-huh yeah the old mississippi exit nice tip all right pft your fire fest so my fire fest is uh last night i went out to uh kind of an industry party meet up with some old friends there and it was uh something shocking happened to me i'm still not entirely sure that it really occurred but i was having a conversation with a good friend mark titus, he was there And he can vouch for all this as being the God's honest truth, first of all I was at a party That was hosted by CowTurd He came up to me We shook hands Instantly got into a debate about soup In front of like very high powered Media executives that were like what the hell are these guys Talking about, he told this long story About what a fan of soup he was how he ate soup every day at espn for like seven eight years and then uh later on he saw me outside and we we rekindled the soup debate so we've we've got into two separate soup debates now um but the the most shocking part of the night was when i was talking to mark and we're having a conversation about god knows what and all of a sudden I feel somebody like grab the back of my elbow and my arm and give it like a pinch and like a little tickle.
And so I turn around and Shannon Sharpe's behind me. And Shannon Sharpe just tickled my arm and then turned his back and walked away.
He got you. And then I don't know sharp he doesn't know me as far as i know he got you i don't know if he thought i was a woman from behind because i do i do have i do have the hair but i looked at titus i go did shannon sharp just tickle the back of my arm and then walk away and titus was like yeah yeah yeah he did and then i just stood there like did anybody else think that this is really weird which just happened and then shannon caked up what's that were you wearing what is my fault yeah i know i'm just too provocative i did have the goods dumped out i had some pretty tight jeans on i got a nice ass so you might have seen that um i was wearing a polo shirt so like i don't I don't know.
I don't think I look that attractive from behind as a female. I'm much more attractive as a female from the front.
And so he just walked away. And then I was just left there in a position where I don't know what to do with myself.
But I think Shannon likes me. Yeah, he definitely likes you.
I think he likes me. So Shannon, let's hang out sometime.
Hit it hit it up have a couple cases mountain dew together hit it up i love that onk right yeah that's what they call him yeah i do understand why lebron james is like nobody should fuck with onk because i think he could have kicked everybody's ass at that party he's a very big dude but um big dude yeah i think i think shannon's got the hots for me damn um all right that's i mean we gotta have him on the show Yeah, what was up with that? Why were you tickling me? Why was another man tickling me? It might just be best that we never cross past him It was definitely, there's no percent chance It was accidental contact It was like a full pinch It was Hand that grabbed the back of my arm And then fingers that manipulated the back of my arm i think he probably thought you're a woman and then realized you weren't and that's why he turned his back it's happened before at a supermarket one time i turned around and this guy was looking at my ass and then he looked up and he was like oh no yeah what have i done we went out to dinner in ve Vegas, and the waitress said, we have Miss.

Yeah, well, she was behind.

She was from behind me.

And we laughed hard.

Yeah, well, you know what?

It's fine.

It's fine.

It's just if I were to power rank all the media people

that would have come up to try to tickle the back of my arm,

I don't think I'd have Shannon Sharp in the top 300.

No.

Oh, maybe he gets down like that.

Yeah, listen, no disrespect, Shannon. No, no, calm.
gets down like that. Yeah.
Listen, no disrespect, Shannon. No.
Call him. It's all love.
All right. My fire fest.
I was pretty close to getting arrested this morning. I don't know if I've told anyone here this story.
I was pretty close to getting arrested this morning. So I went.
So I've been going to the gym every morning trying to keep whatever weight. I mean, it's not even keeping it off because I'm drinking beers and eating like shit.
so I've been going to the gym every morning trying to keep whatever weight. I mean, it's not even keeping it off because I'm drinking beers and eating like shit.
So I've been going to the gym every morning. I have a membership in Brooklyn that has it's a national gym.
So I've been just hitting up like there's it's basically like go any direction from our hotel. And there's one of these gyms.
So I've been going to different ones. I'm like, oh, why not check it out? Right.
So I go to the gym this morning I do my workout I go to uh the hot tub which is on a pool deck so you got to wear a bathing suit so I get in my bathing suit I go out to the pool deck I sit in the hot tub for 20 minutes I go back to take a shower I'm in the um right when you walk in it's like oh just a row of showers I turn on the shower and I go to take off my bathing suit. My hands are on my bathing suit as I'm taking it off.
And a woman turns the corner. Yeah.
And I was in the women's bathroom and she looked at me and I was like, oh my fucking God, and just ran out of there. But I was like, my hands were on my bathing suit to take my bathing suit off she was two seconds late one second later and she i would have just been standing there naked about to get in the shower i would have been in a lot of trouble i feel like you know what i think it happens more than you would realize but to the shot i've done this before where you walk into a bathroom like an airport and you're like where are the urinals oh fuck i'm in the showers like i'm eating that's not good you're pretty deep in there yeah i did that one time at a gym in new york too and then i just i panicked and you got to get the hell out oh i got out so fast she was thankfully wearing a bathing suit and she was wearing it was a one-piece bathing suit which gives off major like i'm putting you in jail vibes yeah there's a bikini i feel like i may maybe i could have gotten out of there without but like she she probably would have dropped the hammer on me yeah and if she would have been nude that would have even been i think i would have been worse yeah because then i would have definitely been i would have at least had to speak to the police i so you'd be able to talk your way out of that one probably i i also i'm such an idiot because you know like the urinal thing is a context clue i walked into the the shower well and i was like this looks pretty clean just kept on walking then i saw like the in the shower uh was like a can of uh shaving cream for sensitive skin and i was like oh you know maybe maybe because so hot like i shower guys guys in Guys shave in the shower all the time.
It was like an orange can of sensitive skin shaving cream. And then once I saw her, I was like, well, you're a fucking idiot.
All these context clues are pretty obvious. You're in a women's shower.
Every time I go into a women's bathroom, by mistake, and it's probably only happened like three or four times over the course of my life, you do realize that their bathrooms are way cooler than they've got stalls everywhere the urinals really junk up the place yeah no and again like who hasn't walked into a women's bathroom but i was i turned the shower on i was standing outside my shower yeah like you can't get more into a women's locker room than the shower maybe she thought she was in the wrong bathroom it was she didn't say anything i just started scurrying like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry but yeah that would have been a really bad way to start the day that'd be tough if i had had to walk my way out of that it'd be wow michael irvin dan katz yeah both kicked out immediately super bowl week yeah fuck also did you hear mike irvin's apology no well that's because he didn't apologize okay yeah i wouldn't expect him to he went on the radio and they asked him like why'd you get sent home mike and he goes well i i had a few drinks and then i got back to the hotel lobby and apparently i said something i don't even remember the conversation though so i don't know i i definitely didn't say anything like too bad but i don't even remember talking to anybody and then they show me the video and yeah there i was talking to a woman but i don't remember so he's pulling out the don't remember doesn't count defense yeah it didn't happen didn't happen um all right jake finish us off yeah i have a few quick ones first up from the mini golf broadcast yesterday i asked i was giving some context on where we were it was golf land sun splash in mesa arizona 22 minutes from downtown phoenix and 36 minutes from state fart stadium you said state fartart? Yeah. You said State Fart?

State Fart, and it sounded like fart.

Oh, my God.

That's going to be a chip on the shoulder from a home still.

State Fart Stadium.

He's going to be ready to go.

So not my greatest.

Wow.

I won't be going on the reel,

but I think the listeners got some laughs out of it.

That was the point.

As long as you have your antenna up when you have to read the words bulging disc that's a big one yeah great work with penultimate too yeah it's your words that word obviously uh number two uh we have a upcoming interview coming out with max homer we hit at this cage behind and i choked it was bad rubber tea three times i heard really bad it was really. So I just want to get ahead of that so that no one's surprised by it.
He hit pop-ups. That is not my regular golfing, but under pressure it is, and I have no excuses.
That video will be on Instagram today. The one good thing to take away from that is it wasn't as bad as Max.
Yeah. Yeah.
Max just chokes up. But no one expects Max to golf.
Max choked up, and it looked like he was going to bunt. Max golfs like a Flintstone, I would imagine.

I think I said that you're like a caveman.

Yeah.

Max Homa has seen a regular swing.

No, it doesn't count.

Well, no, that's your regular swing now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Until further notice.

Under bright lights.

I deserve the criticism.

And finally.

And they were your own golf clubs?

No.

Oh, okay.

Because you did bring your own golf clubs.

Yeah, this dented driver out here.

But my fault.

Does that make a difference?

Sounds like a main excuse.

No, that's another excuse.

Oh, sounds like a main excuse.

Except it's a dented driver and it's not your normal swing.

Correct.

Okay.

Finally, I forgot to remind you to call the bowling guy on Wednesday's show.

Oh, fuck.

Yeah, well, you weren't on the show.

Yeah, but I still got to text him, so that's my fault.

I saved his number, I think.

I feel like there's a realistic chance because it's been nights the last few times.

Yeah.

This is only 6 p.m. local or 6 p.m.
Eastern.

Got his number.

Saved.

Ready to go.

Was it the U.S. Bowling Congress?

Yeah, Bowling Congress. He's ducking us.
He might be blocked. He's ducking us.
No, I would go right to voicemail. No, I think it's an office phone.
Oh. He's ducking us.
Motherfucker. All right, well, the quest continues.
We'll move on to Sunday. Yeah.
Oh, if god forbid The Eagles lose You're gonna ream this guy Oh Punish him If the answer is Sunday I have a prediction This guy's not picking up any calls This guy better be rooting For the verdicts We haven't called So the only thing I would say Is we have not called During regular business hours So that's the only thing That we maybe 9 to 5 Monday to Friday Yeah right So maybe that's it Okay great Super Bowl week great episode boys we'll be back right here on Sunday night either some of us very happy or some of us very sad let's kick it to ourselves Hank here we're gotten the lottery ball number have you are you gonna are you gonna answer me I do what I had to answer it what'd you say shortly no no but have you ever gotten it before this is a repeat yeah but have you ever gotten it's not a repeat so actually one of the camera guys last yesterday stopped the broadcast put his camera down he's like hey can you ask hank real quick if he's ever gotten the lottery ball that's actually true right yeah yeah 100 true yes yes it was awesome because i thought he had like something I'm serious to tell me. Have you? No.
Okay. Well, let's find out if you do right now.

Okay. Yeah, 100% true.
Yes, it was awesome. Because I thought he had something serious to tell me.
Have you? No. Okay, well, let's find out if you do right now.
Okay, end of the show. Getting ready for the Super Bowl.
You just listened to the whole Super Bowl preview. It's still February 3rd, though.
Hank, have you gotten this? Lottery ball machine number? No. Oh, interesting.
Are you sure? Yes. You've just done three times in a row.
All right. Number 17.
18. Did you even say a number, Billy? That was just...
I said 69. 65.
20. Hey.
16. 16.
Going to spread my wings. Can I change my number? No.
No. Overruled by him.
What was no overruled by hand what was your number?

PFT what was your number?

uh

I forget

77

it wasn't that

did you guess 77 at some point?

no I thought that was 17

third time

oh man

oh

fuck this

love you guys.

One, two, three. Thank you.
The day I think I'm here I'll be your home The day I want to go Things I can say Is it like a display But what you wait You're all picked up to remember You shine away Love is coming for you anyway You shine away Love is coming for you anyway Bye. Thank you.
Take me.