JJ Watt, Lebron Breaks Kareem’s Record, Max Is Going To The Super Bowl + Guys On Chicks

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On today's Pardon My Take, our good friend J.J. Watt in studio, in our C4 studio in Arizona, Super Bowl Day 2.
We're going to talk a little more Super Bowl.

We're taping this early in the day,

so we're also going to talk about LeBron James breaking the record.

So congratulations to him.

That won't backfire whatsoever.

We have Hot Seat Cool Throne.

We have Guys on Chicks Super Bowl Etiquette Edition.

Great show coming.

I actually want to say this J.J. Watt interview,

it feels like the fight because, you know, the first one I thought we did OK, but we probably hyped it too much.

I'm ready to hype this one.

I thought it was very, very good.

I thought it was good, too.

Yes.

We started to say last week, like, you can't tell the story of J.J. Watt without part of my take.

I actually don't think that you can tell the story part of my take without J.J. Watt.

Agreed.

Agreed.

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And then I can't blame all on the sun

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Thank you. No place to hang out or washin' And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Welcome to Part of My.
Today is Wednesday, February 8th. Are you okay, Hank? I'm great.
I'm fantastic. The C4 couch is as comfortable as can be.
Yeah, you're really sitting in it well. And congratulations to LeBron James for breaking the all-time scoring record.
Great job, LeBron. I'm happy for you.
You know, LeBron, he's had quite a week. He goes from from the ups to the downs he's going to break Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's all-time record that's impressive like great job you know kind of a ball hog but that's fine you you are a stat compiler you're the greatest stat compiler of all time but he would trade it all to be able to go to Starbucks and get his his name written on the cup yeah and go shop at Target at first I was like man LeBron you don't own anything in your house that's that's purchased a Target but then I thought more about it and I was like I bet he does actually oh he definitely is a by the the weird like uh pictures and sayings guy yes oh he's got home is where the heart is yeah home is or like the wine sayings like Hakuna Moscato yeah everything happens for.
Everything happens for a Riesling. It's 5 o'clock somewhere.
Or it's wine o'clock. Yeah.
Yeah. And he's probably got like a Scarface poster somewhere.
He's got the Kiss. He's got the Pink Floyd album.
It was just very funny to see LeBron say, like, I just wish I could go to Starbucks and get my name written on the cup. Yeah.
You can go to the drive-thru. They'll write your name on the drive-thru, LeBron.
It actually is one of those weird things where LeBron's saying that. I understand what he's saying, but I think it was maybe Brady a few years ago when he's like, yeah, it's really tough to be a parent and try to figure out how to raise your kids when they have so much.
Fair thing to say, no one wants to hear it. Fair thing for LeBron to say because I bet you when you become become that insanely famous there is a part of you that's like i really wish i could just walk down the street and just be a regular dude yeah but again no one wants to hear it because everyone would trade lives well that's what michael jackson did so michael jackson was so famous and so unique looking that he couldn't go anywhere he actually rented out and changed his whole face the entire no well that was i mean that might have been part of it at first and then things got out of hand but he rented out an entire supermarket and he paid people to be actors to pretend like they were shopping the supermarket so he could be able to go out and shop for whatever weird stuff he just he just did a nathan fielder show yes exactly he did the simulation or what's it called the rehearsal yeah the rehearsal he did the rehearsal for himself but yeah lebron uh so we are taping this early so maybe he didn't break it uh he didn't he didn't I don't think so you don't think so no he's gonna do it at home they're at home tonight next point I don't think he's gonna break it he's gonna do it the only thing you should say is if LeBron is a true historian of the game he would wait to break it against the bucks the only other team the cream played for so lakers box playing on thursday night maybe he does that who knows either way if he does break it i'm not going to be a hater about it i'm not going to be like it's just an attendance record because that's what it is he just played a ton of seasons didn't go to college which is not something we should look up to three point line didn't exist for cream for like half his career.
And it's, I mean, he does have the most points per game, LeBron. So that's wait.
No, he doesn't know MJ still has most points per game, but either way. Well, if LeBron hadn't played in all the, are we counting playoff games and his all time points record? I don't think it does.
It doesn't. Okay.
Well then that completely submarines my take on him. I did do a little research trying to just being ready for this moment because it is an incredible moment.
LeBron is an all-time player. He's very good at basketball.
I think we can all agree on that. But I did kind of arm myself with some stats.
He's actually more – he's closer to James Harden than MJ in terms of points per game. What about his efficiency rate? I don't know what his PER is.
PER plus is what go by plus his per plus stinks the craziest thing i was looking so i was looking through the the points per game i asked you this trivia question earlier uh pft hank were you in the room because i can ask you now i don't you didn't ask me a trivia question well you were standing there when we were talking about it there's nine guys right now who are current active players in the top 30 all-time points per game kind of tells you what the error we're playing in and one name is just insane that you would never guess i i i think you were there so it's kd lebron dame james harden steph deli ad devin booker kairi and then one last name can anyone guess it i can well you heard it it's carl anthony towns which shocked me when i saw that i was like huh he is he's top 30 he's turning the corner yeah that's wild yeah that is a wild stat is it not it is kind of crazy though to think about lebron how since 2003 the nba has been lebron james that's such a long time like those are so many different areas that he's overlapped since he got into the league. And the league has just been focused on him that entire time.
It's honestly impressive. Some would say it's a little look at me selfish.
Not me. Some would also say like, hey, LeBron, you've definitely been using performance enhancing drugs.
I would not say that about him. But a lot of people have said it.
I think that we should hear them out. Here's something nice I'm going to say about lebron i think there has never been a case uh where the he exceeded the hype because he was expected to be this player coming out of high school you know the televised high school

games and he somehow was better than that because you know there's been many times in sports where

you see a player or a prospect you're like he's going to be the next guy and he might even have

a good career doesn't have a career like lebron james it's pretty insane to think about like

I don't know. where you see a player or a prospect, you're like, he's going to be the next guy, and he might even have a good career.
Doesn't have a career like LeBron James. It's pretty insane to think about, like, the general media called their shot.
Oh. And they were right.
Yeah, actually, we should get credit in the media because, like, we were so right about LeBron James. We called it.
And guess what? I'm calling it right now. Wimbledon Yana is going to be great.
Yeah. He's going to even be better than LeBron at his peaks.
Yes. And yeah, actually, when you think about it, LeBron, like he actually had kind of an average career when you put it into perspective, we all expected him to be great.
And he wasn't the, the, like he should have been averaging 50 points. If he averaged 50 points a game, then we could be like, hand up.
We were wrong. You were that much better than we expected.
We kind of this i personally expected lebron to surpass michael jordan's championship numbers he didn't do it well he did he surpassed his finals appearances right yeah appearances so losses and losses yeah he has more the all-time is he the all-time four and six no is he four and six no is is lebron james the all-time nba finals losses leader no wouldn't that be – it would have to be like Wilter. Jerry West, maybe.
Jerry West. Jerry West.
He lost everything. Yeah, he lost literally every year.
I want LeBron to stick around and make more Finals so he can be the biggest Finals loser of all time. Now, tonight of all nights, you should have Skip Bayless.
It's going to be great if he doesn't pass the record tonight. But I'm letting you guys know right now.
This is what makes part of my take different. I've turned on Skip Bayless tweet notifications because he's got something loaded.
I don't know what his angle is going to be. He's going to pretend to be gracious.
And there's going to be something that's like very slightly deprecating in there towards LeBron James. I'm just excited as a student of his game.
He's three and a half and six. This is going to be great because what is he? Three and a half and six? Well, actually three and six because Kyrie carried him in 2016.
Two and a half and six. Well, and also he had Bosh and Wade.
And it was the baby thunder. Stimulus pack.
And Tim Duncan was old. Didn't he get swept once? He did get swept by the Spurs.
That should count as two. Yeah.
Two losses. Yeah, this is the difference between Pardon My Take and every other podcast.
I always think, like, I think most, there probably won't be, like, a ton of new listeners for J.J. Watt because we've had him on before.
But for any of the new listeners listening to the start of the show, they're like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? LeBron scored 20 points against the Thunder. He's still 16 away.
And then the even better part is if he falls short tonight on Tuesday night,

we're not even going to mention it on Friday's show.

And people will be like, you don't even mention it.

We'll be like, go listen to Tuesday's show, bro.

We gave him his flowers.

We already did this.

You want us to do it again?

Come on.

We're first reporting that LeBron James has broken the record.

Please credit.

Pardon my take.

You have to credit us if he doesn't. Now, if he doesn't do it, wow, what a colossal disappointment that would be to be within striking range at home in front of the home crowd and not breaking that record.
I did. So I bet.
It would really put an asterisk on the entire deal. I bet is over 32 and a half points tonight.
And I didn't. I just did it.
I woke up and I bet it. And then I realized the Bucs angle that I mentioned, that he would be playing against the only other team kareem played for the guy he's passing and also is there like a sadder team that you could break an all-time record against than the thunder that's that's let me that's a real tough one probably the wizards maybe the kings kings are good though they're good right It's pretty up there.
Can't he get it against the Thunder? It really dulls the significance of the entire operation, I think, to break it against the Thunder. He'll probably do it tonight, and they'll probably stop the game.
Oh, yeah. And LeBron, do you think he's going to take the mic and thank everybody? I hope he writes a letter to his younger self.
Yeah. Those are always fun.
Well, it's really a letter from his younger self to his future self, but's writing it as his future so yes yeah this is big lebron cosplaying as young lebron thanking future lebron you you mentioned skip bayless and we got to give him a shout out because um he did uh the impossible he he criticized lebron for not demanding a trade for kairi straight up um so that trade was never on the table so he was like lebron's best chance of winning a ring this year would be with kevin durant he should have he should have demanded a trade for kyrie straight up that trade never happened or never was even discussed not only is that trade not discussed lebron can't be traded and i'm not saying like he can't be traded because he's lebrron. He contractually cannot be traded.
Does he have a no trade clause? No, he signed his two-year extension in August, and you can't trade him for six months in NBA bylaws. So Skip had a whole hypothetical that contractually cannot take place.
It's a tough moment for our boy. If you're LeBron, you can probably figure out your laws you can actually do the trade what would happen if lebron i know he can't be traded if he just showed up in brooklyn yeah put on a nets uniform and tried to play and let him play are they going to stop him are you gonna stop lebron james i remember it was a big deal because it was he signed it it's like a six month rule and he could have signed it earlier in the summer and he signed it it later in the summer, and then it became clear that he couldn't get – like the trade deadline would pass before he could get traded.
Well, could he trade the future rights to drafting his son? Yeah, that might be the thunder. Remember when he was talking about Sam Presti? Yeah, I would love it if LeBron James' son got into the NBA and just swatted the shit out of his dad.
That would be awesome. That would be cool.
That would rule. Okay, so what else we got? That's the leading story.
LeBron not passing Kareem's record against the Thunder, even though we started the whole show about it. There was media night.
Media night happened on Monday. Wow, the pageantry, the magic, the entertaining questions.
It truly has it all. Did you hear? So our friend of the program, Dave Damoshek, asked a great question to Nick Sirianni.
He asked him if the Super Bowl is a must win. Yeah.
And I agree. It is a must win.
Because I was thinking about it. He should have maybe asked, is it a must win, can't lose? I think it's a must win.
I disagree. You think it's a can't lose? Yeah, it's a can't lose.
Okay. Because if you lose, then what but if you win it's like okay it's a must win okay we just checked off something good job okay you might be right moving on i think it's a can't lose if you if you're nick sirianni you lose the super bowl you're gonna be known as super bowl losing head coach yeah you can't lose that game you can't you cannot lose that game if you're nick sirianni and if you yeah you i mean you want to win it but it's not a must win if you what happens if you if if you lose a must win then you get another crack at a must win later that's then your next super bowl becomes a muster win but he will get another crack at it we think we think you think they you think if they lose super bowl they fire nick sirianni nobody but he might he he lost a must win you can't have a coach around that loses must wins right losing a can't lose though is pretty bad if you lose a can't lose then he resigns yeah you have to just fall on the sword literally yes like kill yourself yes right yes japanese yes if you have any honor nick sirianni will commit seppuku get my get my sword yeah unsheathe it the lombardi trophy the losers should have to impale themselves with it i would see jason kelsey would definitely be the sword unsheather yeah he would he would be the designated sword guy he seems like jason kelsey's an all-time like costume guy he can wear any costume and would look incredible i think if he were like either the executioner's hood or if he put on like a priest robe and gave him his last rights or like i think that would look awesome big baggy pants yeah huge baggy pants for some reason cool yeah giant weird baggy pants yeah did you know jason kelsey plays the uh saxophone no i did not yeah so i saw a video got me pumped up he was was like the Philadelphia Orchestra.
He was playing the saxophone. They were doing Fly Eagles Fly.
And it was just an awesome Philadelphia moment where all these people at the symphony, and they're just singing the song and chanting Eagles. Yeah, Jason Kelsey might be the most interesting guy in football.
You could tell me any fact about him, and I would believe it because he seems like a worldly guy with lots of different pursuits. also said i know it's travis kelsey i think they asked him about um the key to uh to preserving his body and to making sure he's always in good football shape he said naps he naps like three times a day takes like 30 45 minute naps i might have to start dipping my toe into the nap game dude that's i mean whenever you read a story about someone who lives forever who lives to like 115 it's never the dude that's at the gym it's like a 5-2 person from italy who just takes naps drinks wine and and eats pasta with like fresh olive oil every day yeah or like a grandmother who's like well i've smoked the same brand of cigarettes for for 60 years it's the no stress people it has nothing to do with physical fitness it's all about stress yeah if you just have no stress you'll live forever and it's always those people so maybe that is the naps we can live forever i'm gonna get into the nap game i used to call them just blacking out but i feel like you know now that i'm in my late 30s i'll just call them naps dude you rebrand i am elite at the nap game i'm like the dad nap is a true thing where if if I lay down like I'll even be like it'll be the middle of the day.

My kids will be playing.

If I lay down, lay down flat, 10 minute nap.

No problem.

Instantly.

Instantly.

Could be.

I could have a cup of coffee in my hand.

10 minute nap.

I'm already geared up for the master's nap this year.

Yeah.

I've got my spot on the couch picked out.

No one's touching that thing.

Yep.

Gonna be sick. I've done some reps.
you gotta get you gotta get your reps in beforehand you don't want to hurt yourself pull muscle napping which is something that i've actually done is injure yourself sleeping that's that's when i knew like it's time to hang it up you know just on just on like any aspirations of being physically fit you wake up in the morning and you've got a pulled hamstring yeah i've had the ankle yeah i wake up and i'm like what did i just did i run in my sleep the the a way to take your master's nap to the elite level uh for everyone out there crack a window crack a window get some air wake up it's a little cold uh it's like maybe 4 30 in the afternoon it's a little cold you missed probably i don't know seven holes yeah and it's just that's that's spring air oh i'm going on a little vacay after the super bowl i've already planned to shut the fuck up i've planned to uh abscond from the hotel with one of their robes that i would be wearing for my masters now i've got it all set up that's how you also take it like getting getting into full relaxation mode requires a robe yes yes uh there was another story about the rocky statue in philadelphia this might have been from the same interview with the kelseys uh it turns out that

every team every fan of every team that's put on opposing jerseys on the rocky statue over the last

like five years going back to the super bowl uh against the patriots back in 20 was it 18 17 17

See you next time. posing jerseys on the Rocky statue over the last five years, going back to the Super Bowl against the Patriots back in 2018.
17. 2017 season.
17 in 2018. Every time that's happened, that team is lost.
So if you're a Chiefs fan, don't go to the Rocky statue and get it dressed up because Rocco will have his vengeance. I'm going to need an Eagles fan to please go and put a jersey on.

A little false flag operation.

Yes, I will pay for someone.

I'll pay for the jersey.

Operation Northwoods.

Someone hit me up.

I will do that.

I did get a little triggered with Super Bowl media night because I saw Matt Nagy getting interviewed.

So that triggered me.

And someone was asking about Justin Fields.

And I was watching the video being like, stop talking about him. He's not yours.
not yours you tried to ruin him shut the fuck up matt nagy's next up man yeah he's next up it was it was a very it was a very pathetic moment i was sitting in my car watching this video being just like shut the fuck up dude he was like justin fields is wired correctly like the guy works so hard like shut the fuck up and matt is not your quarterback he's definitely going to take credit for like laying the groundwork of justin fields like you know when he got to the nfl his his fundamentals were all askew i had to sit down and work real hard with him it's good to see that some of the lessons that we went through together are starting to take hold yeah and he's ready to now build off of that and take the next step it was uh one of those moments is sports fans where you just have to take a step back and be like, dude, are you really letting this bother you? And the answer is yes. I was bothered that he was talking about the words Justin Fields coming out of his mouth bothered me.
And that makes me a very small person. And that's fine.
I'm okay with that. Yep.
So as long as you admit your faults, you can just have them. Yep.
Tyler Woods taught us that. But also, at the same time, if you're Matt Nagy, this is what you have to do yeah you have to like take credit that's what we do actually all the time yeah we took credit for we're taking credit for jj watt's career his entire career we're taking credit for we're taking credit for lebron james passing kareem abdul jabbar because we said in 2003 he was going to be good at basketball right we all agree so like i understand what matt nagy is doing but at the same time when somebody does it yeah in a way that irritates you you just want to rip the throat i just don't want to talk about him because i i also feel superstitions like if he talks about him it's just it's the stink is going to be there i don't want to talk about him yeah yeah we had super bowl media night um we'll do all of our prop bets on friday's show um full preview of it the barstool golf time app makes it easy for golfers to find the best tee times at the best prices.
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Let's do Hot Seat Cool Throne. By the way, this whole show is brought to you by C4.
C4 Takeover. Hank, why don't you start with your Hot Seat Cool Throne? My Hot Seat is Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.
Trent Dilfer went somewhere. I don't know what he was on talking.
I think it was something to do with the Ravens documentary that came out. Oh, is that guy? I want to watch that.
Yeah. Is it out? It's out.
Oh, hell yes. Did they get into the Ray Lewis thing? He was talking about Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady and said, you know, when I talk about great quarterbacks, I think about Joe Montana and Steve Young.
Because of the way the game has changed, I don't think Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are impressive. Not that impressive.
I love Trent Dilfer because he only exists to be the butt of the joke when joke when somebody's like well you don't need a great quarterback to win a look at Trent Dilfer there was some great and then obviously like people online were posting old highlights of his where he was just missing wide open receivers Tom Curran a Patriots writer had this stat from 2001 through 2007 Dilfer had 29 starts 31 touchdowns 38 picks he'd been in the league seven years when Brady made his first start Brady had 197 touchdowns and 86 picks in 110 starts over the same span so that's that's when Trent Dilfer was playing yeah there was that stat remember so much more we brought it up uh earlier in the season I can't remember what team we're talking about but the Ravens that Ravens Super Bowl team I think they had think they had like a six-week, seven-week stretch where they didn't score an offensive touchdown, and they went like four and two. It was something crazy like that.
That's how good their defense was. And how bad Trent Schilfer was.
An idiot. Yeah, that's a weird...
I don't really understand... I get the Aaron Rodgers part.
He's overrated. But how could you say those guys are bad quarterbacks? Yeah, it's impressive.
It is.'s impressive what it is i respect for as long as he has been has been impressive take i didn't see coming so i'm i'm gonna do something a little bit out of character for myself and i'm going to try to wrap full context around what trento for said okay because he was talking about quarterbacks of like the 90s guys like troy aik, Steve Young, to a certain extent Joe Montana,

where the pockets and the receivers

weren't as quarterback friendly.

So like the rules on D, you know what?

I'm done with the content.

Trent Dilfer said that he's better than Tom Brady.

Fuck Trent Dilfer.

I don't want to get into the content.

This is one of those takes that's best absorbed

without the true context of it

because we all need to be able to get our jokes off

about Trent Dilfer.

Yeah.

He's a coach at UAB. Is he? Yeah.
He got hired as the coach at UAB. And then your cool throne? My cool throne is mini golf today.
Okay. Mini golf.
Jake's been there since I think 630 this morning. That's why he's not here right now.
I'm heading here right after this hot seat cool throne session. If you enjoyed the bowling live stream, this is going to be something similar.
So how are we feeling technology-wise? I'm going to the rehearsal. We've never done a live stream mini golf.
Are you going to go practice mini golf? I'm not playing. I'm just helping make it happen.
It's interesting. I'm stressed.
It would be a shame. It would be a shame.
Hank, do you think it would be a shame? But I think it's be great I'm excited I'm excited for the course I think it's a much better course I think obviously Hank is so stressed that at 10 o'clock this morning going down to the car he was smoking the biggest joint in the world oh no it would be a shame uh and also if you want to watch it PFT myself Caleb Jeff D. Lowe we that's oursome, and we'll be live from the Part of My Take Instagram.
We'll be live from the Part of My Take Instagram. The broadcast will be live on the Barstool Sports YouTube.
So if you want to, obviously, the YouTube will be bouncing around from all the players. So if you want to watch everyone, watch that.
If you want to just watch Big Cat and PFT, go to the Part of My Take Instagram. Let's hope it all works.
Nothing better than a foursome with the boys. It's going to work.
It's going to be great. Everyone's going to tune in.
And it would be a shame if it wasn't that pft is a dark horse big cat i think is gonna not try and pft i tried hard in the first one i finished like third pft finished second okay but what i didn't try no i mean we'll see there is there's a lot of okay yeah all right now you know what i hope it breaks i hope the whole thing breaks and it never gets broadcast. Yeah.
That's what you already use. Already said that.
No. What did I say? It would be a shame.
You literally said the other day you're going to go to the truck and unplug it when you get there. So, yeah, I might have said that.
Yeah. I might have said that.
Yeah. All right.
I might have said that. I might have said that.
All right. You're rooting against me.
I'm going to try. I don't like.
I'm not a good golfer. I'm going to try.
I don't like having Hank over my shoulder. I'm going to try.
All right. How about I leave then? All right.
Okay. Go make sure that everything's correct and ready to go so that we don't have a shame.
Yeah. No, it's going to be great.
Everyone tune in. Jake, this morning.
Tune in, hopefully. Last night was like, well, Instagram Live, if things are going south, our Instagram Live will be up and you'll be having the time of your life.
What if Instagram goes down? Because be freaking out then the whole world's probably gonna end at that point and you know praise up enjoy drink some c4 all right real shame if lebron james didn't get the scoring title before the world ended really would all right love you guys okay you don't say that you don't mean that no you don't you don't love anybody uh all right pft your hot seat cool my hot seat is russell wilson russell wilson's on the hot seat because uh sean payton did one of his first interviews while he was getting you know he was getting asked questions about being the denver broncos head coach and they asked about russell wilson's personal coaching staff and training team if they're going to be welcome i think they're called like team three okay after russell wilson's seal team three basically and sean payton was like i don't know what kind of arrangements we had before that but around here that's not going to be the case we're not gonna i don't i don't participate in any outside coaching i like that i also had a an epiphany um the broncos colors might be the best colors for coach hirings because they all put on that orange tie and it looks cool because i was like wow sean payton looks cool like wait i thought nathaniel hackett looked cool too and so did vic fangio something about the broncos like that orange kind of pops on a tie it's a little youthful yeah i would say that if the seahawks hired somebody they could have a cool but you can't go neon and that vikings you can go the yellow tie it looks stately yeah the yellow tie i just i like the orange tie so good for you Broncos size good I think that Sean Payne's just telling himself for not being unlimited it sounds like he's not buying into the unlimited lifestyle and I don't know that you can be a successful head coach if you set limitations on yourself there's also a hundred percent chance that Russell Wilson just still brings his staff like like Jameis putting on his uniform when he was suspended at Florida State being like what yeah no I didn't I don't understand he'll just like have them change their names yeah and have them get hired as like janitors yeah be on the be on the uh practice squad yeah I so Sean Payton is going he's gonna have his work cut out for him he's trying to to she's all that Russell Wilson take his glasses off let his hair down This is a good first step, though. And I really do mean this.
Like, you need Sean Payton, and this is a reality of how the NFL works, is going to be there longer than Russell Wilson. He will be the coach.
Because there's no scenario where Russell Wilson outlives Sean Payton in Denver. Because if Russell Wilson is really good, Sean Payton will stay there for a decade plus.
If Russell Wilson's really bad, Sean Payton's going to go find the next quarterback. So he should make the rules, and he should be the guy who's like, this is what's going to happen here because I'm going to be here long past you.
Sean Payton also can lay the gauntlet down right now and then slowly take it away as progress. The ping table but you can't exactly like he'll if you listen russ if you win six games for us in our first eight you can bring your astrologist in as a treat you know but you can't start out by saying yeah he can bring in his whole staff and then and then ban them because then that becomes an issue yes it becomes personal he's just he's laying down the groundwork a little bit my uh it is very funny too that russell wilson had a whole staff like when we made a big deal about the tom brady bill belichick it's like they were already like four or five rings in yeah like tom brady got to have alex guerrero in the building russell wilson won one super bowl one super bowl with his defense and so what happened who's the worst quarterback in the nfl that has their own guys that they rely on i could see um i was gonna say sam darn but Sam Darnold just has like one of his college buddies.
I was going to say Kyle Trask, but it's probably just his weed dealer. Yeah.
And it might be Russ. It might be Russ right now.
Russ might be the, yeah, he is probably the worst quarterback that has his team. Yes.
Yes. My cool throne is Greg Olson.
So Brady went on, he who shall not be named show the other day, fake soup guy, and said that he's not going to step into the booth broadcasting until 2024. So that means that Greg Olson has an entire another year at Fox.
Now, I do think that there's a good chance that Tom Brady spends the next year just straight up practicing calling games, like playing games, excuse me, with a sound off and him doing his analysis in fact i brought that up to to jake yesterday i was like this seems like a good thing for greg olson because if he has another great year they're going to continue to give them something to think about with the tom brady situation but jake was saying that he used to like play youtube games okay with the mute button on and he would do play-by-play to nobody, which is perfect. Of course.
Tom Brady is going to need somebody like that to train with. I would like to offer Jake up.
Yes. If Tom Brady needs a play-by-play guy to bounce off of, Jake will watch YouTube games.
With you. You can pick anything up, like any game over the last 10 years.
Jake will do play-by-play. You don't even have to pay him, probably.
Yes. I'm totally negotiating against Jake right now.
No, you don't have to pay him. I can say right now you don't have to pay him.
You don't have to pay Jake, Tom. You can just get Jake to do play-by-play for you.
You can work on your color commentary. Yes.
So this was my hot seat because I actually think it's hot seat the Tom Brady retirement. He's spending an entire year off.
He's basically admitting that he's not going to start broadcasting games until 2024. He's not retired.
He's not retired. I can see him being a total psycho about getting ready to do broadcasting.
But he just left an entire year open for him to come back. Like, he doesn't have anything holding.
If he jumped right into the booth and the Niners get a bunch of injuries and they call they call him it's like well I'm already in the booth I this feels like he's just leaving the door a little bit open also interesting because Fox has the Super Bowl in 2024 so I respect that part of Tom Brady's decision where he's like I'm not calling a season unless it ends in a Super Bowl yeah they have in 2024 yeah so they have I don't know what happened with like the scheduling uh there was a shake-up I think it's because they gotta get ABC into it uh because it's Joe Buck's calling it in like 2027 um there was an article about Joe Buck today that was like and we love Joe Buck but it was just flex city because it was this article started like Joe Buck watched the NFC championship game at a bar in Paris Joe Buck's gonna watch the the super bowl the super bowl at a party in cabo yeah it's like okay he's living his best life but yeah so i'm ready to by the way flip on joe buck again okay everybody will have to have him on to defend himself everybody likes joe buck yeah i'm ready to say like fuck that guy yeah i'm i'm in joe buck is entitled he's spoiled yeah he's whiny he hates my team yep i'm joe i'm sorry like you were cool for a while but guess what we're out yeah but come back on the show to defend yourself so fox has this year's super bowl and they have it again in 2024 okay so and then it resets where it's now a rotation of nbc cbs abc which would be joe buck yeah and fox so yeah so it was funny that tom brady's like oh wait next year we don't have the super bowl I'll just wait till we have the Super Bowl it does sound like Tom Brady is taking a vacation away from work to like be a dad for a year maybe try to get Giselle back see how that plays out not have anything on his schedule and then returning to work in whatever context that's going to be I I think he's done but if you think that that's going to stop us from speculating every time a quarterback gets injured next year, it could be a destination for Tom Brady. He at least leaves the door open for speculation.
Yes, which I appreciate. Because he won't be doing it.
Yeah, no, it's thank you from us, Tom, because we needed that. He also, did you hear him on Jim Gray's podcast, which I still don't know.
Someone's going to have to explain Jim Gray to me at some point. Jim Gray started a podcast, apparently.
Right, but why is it that everyone – why did LeBron do the announcement with Jim Gray when he went to Miami? That was Jim Gray, was it not? I think so. Why is Jim Gray Brady's guy? What is Jim – who? Jim gray was a big deal back in the 90s i know that but like how is he i just i i want to maybe we just got to get jim gray on the show yeah just be like how are you doing this dude so how are you the oprah of sports where every like big only the a a plus listers they're like need an interview done jim gray i feel like jim gray knows where the bodies are buried it's crazy that's why why.
He probably has all the details. It all goes back to being drinking buddies with people.
I bet you Jim Gray's drinking buddies are like Bob Craft with Brady's agent. And then they go to him because they know he's a trusted guy and he's not going to speculate about some of the things that have happened in the past.
He was a boxing guy for a while too. I think he almost got beat up in the ring by Don King, maybe by Mike Tyson.
I feel like Jim Gray almost got punched in the face by Mike Tyson in the early 90s and almost knocked out. And that kind of proved his mettle where he's like, I'll stare anybody down.
That was also Howard Letterman when I think he was like, if I were 50 years younger, I'd kick your ass. That was him.
That was an all-time moment. Yeah, I'm looking up Jim Gray right now.
I'm trying to figure out what exactly. Yeah, he's been around forever.
He had a Pete Rose, big Pete Rose thing. Jim Gray, married, no children.
Also says that Jim Gray is a combat veteran, retired special warfare. Oh, my God.
Wait. No, this is a different Jim Gray.
Jim Gray might be. This is a different Jim Gray.
warfare oh my god wait no this is a different jim gray jim gray might be different jim gray he's a retired special warfare combat master chief with 22 years experience no i'm gonna i'm gonna run with this no that's jim gray computer scientist i think it's the same jim gray maybe that's everyone's just respecting the troops by asking jim gray to do these interviews it's like the the old rumor that. Rogers, he wore the sweaters all the time because he had all the army tattoos on his arm and he had like 53 confirmed kills as a sniper.
Yeah, I like that rumor. I'm going to just transfer that to Jim Gray.
Jim Gray is a fucking assassin. Damn, Jim Gray.
Three times sports reporter of the year. What a what a what a career.
Yeah. So someone figure out how does Jim Gray just be the the guy so yeah the uh Belichick and Brady were on the show together and Brady like almost cried because it was it is crazy it was one of those moments where you feel really stupid with um how everyone covers sports and like the Brady versus Belichick thing because they basically both were like yeah we love each other we there's no way we would either of us would have the success without the other and it was one of those uh no duh moments like yeah of course yeah it's also very funny just got bored and we're like they've won six super bowls how can we split them up yeah it's funny that that he had brady and belichick on his podcast at the same time and we all agreed as a society that it's not that big a deal and let's not talk about it that much.
Well because Jim Gray that's the part that I don't understand Jim Gray doesn't move the needle except for the like premier athletes. Can you imagine if Belichick and Brady went on a premier podcast together like call her daddy and got interviewed at the same time that would we'd all be talking about it.
there like the secret to our success was we we found out day one that we both loved Gluck Gluck 5000. And that's how you build the foundation of a relationship.
Tom had the Cooch Gobbler unlock. Oh, Bill, you like getting sucked off too? Well, Ernie Adams used to come in the room and peg us as we were doing film study.
And that really drove home all the lessons that we need to learn. All right.
My other hot seat was Jay Williams. That dust dust up with steven a was all time like one of those true great moments where uh it was very personal on air and you could feel the tension and steven a just bodied him because he just kept he basically called him out because jay williams loves to say i find it interesting which is a very good way easy way a cop-out way of not actually saying what you feel and steven a was just like you keep saying that just say what you want to say i find it interesting that jay williams keeps saying i find it yeah right right and that's exactly what he was doing he was saying i find it interesting that you have all this animosity towards kyrie irving and you don't bring that same energy towards jeffzos, which is a very funny thing to say like as a sentence.
But his implication was that Jeff Bezos, by not taking down the link to the documentary of the anti-Semitic film that Kyrie Irving promoted, was just as culpable as Kyrie was. And it's funny to imagine Jeff Bezos, who I don't even think is a CEO of Amazon anymore, but like sitting down and screening every documentary that he sells on Amazon and giving it a rating and be like, no, you know what? I didn't like what this filmmaker was trying to do.
So we're going to take this off the online store. Now, I'm going to say this just because if I'm wrong and it's just a false statement, then we'll just call it even me and Jay Williams for his tweet about Emei Udoka being the first African-American.
That wasn't Jay he was hacked he was hacked either way I'm gonna go for it I'm pretty sure I have a memory of Jay Williams after the entire documentary thing he said that he watched it and there were some interesting points in it I'm pretty sure he said okay who knows if I I'm someone would maybe have to go find that for me he I think he think he said it was bad. Like he's like, it's a bad documentary, but there were some interesting things that were brought up.
I just, I just felt it was interesting how the trains ran exactly on time. Yes.
Yes. So someone find that for me so I can be vindicated.
And then I can, when Jay Williams and I are no longer even, I still own one. But Stephen A.
Smith was, I think he was the victor in this situation. I would basically was making Jay Williams very emotional on the air and Jay didn't really know how to explain his way out of it and then at the end Molly bless her heart had to step in and go like okay fellas we're all friends and colleagues and Jay Williams was over there like staring I looked like he was gonna cry and also Stephen A.
Smith had an unbelievable line when uh Jay Williams tried to call him triggered and Stephen A. Smith said always triggered.
It's like, you can't beat that. He's always triggered.
He's always ready to fight. Yeah, it was great.
It was kind of similar to WWE, but it was real. Yeah, right.
No, it was that one moment where it breaks and you're like, wait, these guys really don't like each other. When Jay Williams thanked Stephen A.
Smith for allowing him to speak for 90 seconds on the show, at that point you knew that there was something personal that Jay was holding back. And Stephen A.
Smith, he smelled blood in the water. And there's no more danger to Stephen A.
Smith than when there's blood in the water. Yes, yes.
And then my cool throne, we talked about it on Monday. Max, you ready? Ready to purchase these tickets? Said.
You go to the Super Bowl. Said.
And also we've decided we added uh memes is going to go as well so memes isn't part of the deal he's going to sit with them he's going to get all the content we're going to have an incredible pm tv out for this so max will have an entire episode of max at the super bowl we'll have social clips so memes i'll get reimbursed for the ticket i buy for you so you you don't have to pay me if the chiefs win so that one will be separate you can pay me if the chiefs win i'll accept that you're allowed to do that you can you could also pay me i know max don't don't step on my toes here memes you are more than welcome to pay me if the chiefs win okay this is a big purchase max what are you thinking i found there's uh shadow game time by the way buying them on game time use barstool 100 for a hundred dollars off uh i think these ones right here section 417 row 17 oh i shouldn't say this out loud bleep that people will just be coming up to you yeah no no we don't need that we don't need that that was stupid we don't need that um all right yeah let's well yeah rona's bailed on us it's disgusting that's fine just show me where you want to show me where you want to sit this chair this couch is an absolute Hank ruined it show me point to where you want to sit and then I'll tell you the price I'm gonna scroll real quick I think it's these ones right here those are those look sick don't you think yeah okay or these a little more expensive yeah let's give it a little more oh okay okay all right three seats together the total price is 18,960 and you're paying for how much of that uh whatever uh two-thirds of that so max um we we had an interview with max home he's gonna be on the show what next week yeah so max was talking to us it was really interesting about his confidence and how he developed like a sense of real confidence that's not just based on this hard tough exterior shell of like pretending to be super confident i couldn't help but think about you and how you've been acting this week towards the uh the eagles because you do have this like hard shell of confidence on the outside well he the way he really said it was there was a difference between someone like billy who has delusional confidence i think he said he he could be clinically diagnosed as being confident yes so i i'd like to think that i'm somewhere in the middle of billy and max probably closer to Billy yeah I actually think that's fair and that's growth yeah you admitting that right now is you can admit that you're you're nervous that you're shaky because this is the biggest game of your life while also believing that the Eagles are good enough to win the Super Bowl no you can have both I it's starting it to a point where I like the Eagles so much in this game that it's like there's no way. There's no way this is going to happen.
It makes too much sense that the Eagles are going to win this game. But that's not true.
I'm going to be going back and forth all week. It's the only thing that's on my mind.
We have a really busy work week, and then every single thing that I do, it's like I just need to remember that Sunday I to be ready to go. Yeah.
Or is this a can't lose or a must win for you? This is a can't lose. Yeah.
Okay. That's what I thought.
This is a can't lose. Does it, does it make you nervous that Nick Sirianni said it was a must win? Everything that on it, everything Nick Sirianni does makes me nervous, but he still wins.
Yeah. So the answer is yes.
That's actually like, yeah, that's good. That's a good way to describe Nick Sirianni.
It's like he, still wins yeah so the answer is yes that's actually like that's good that's a good way to describe Nick Sirianni it's like he he comes across as the biggest loser in the world but he's really good I don't like anything that comes out of his mouth ever but yeah but he gets results but he's great he's great he gets results I look at him as like a Pete Alonso sort of of football okay it's not baseball season yeah but I'm just thinking Half our audience just tuned off. JJ time?

Yeah, hold on.

I'm purchasing them so i hope that i can transfer these i wonder what if the nfl bans me i don't think they could do that okay now i have to do all right then we'll do this after yeah but the tickets are you don't need to know where it's It be $19,000 this is gonna be $19,000 okay so that's okay that's yeah yeah that's in that's fine that's in that's in that's in my budget yeah that's fine that's fine oh wait we have breaking news yeah max breaking moves yeah you have to do breaking moves. Oh, breaking moves.
Rogers has talked about Aaron Rogers has talked on the Pat McAfee show about potentially retiring this offseason. I don't know because I haven't seen the clip yet.
I don't know what context to take this in. But Aaron Rogers says that this offseason, he has an opportunity to do a little self-reflection and some isolation.
And then after that, he's going to be a lot closer to the final, final decision. He has not even decided yet whether he's going to play in 2023.
That's why I think it's going to be important to get through this week and take my isolation retreat and contemplate all things my future. He called it a darkness retreat for four nights alone.
He said he will be in pitch black all day and all night for four days and nights it's really sensory deprivation isolation he said it stimulates dmt and there can be some hallucinations i love erin rogers okay i love him he's locking himself he's going to be waterboarding himself basically to to stimulate his brain yes to release the god particle so he can figure out whether or not he wants to make 58 million dollars next year yes i can save you you don't have to have your brain exert the chemical that's reserved for you when you die to pacify you and make passing into the afterlife smoothly to know that yes you do want to play football for one more year for 50 million yes it's pretty easy i'll save you that pretty easy uh by the way the tickets have been purchased okay you're ready to go you're ready to go also just one last thing memes uh memes had never been to an nfl game and in the last month he's going he went to a playoff game in kansas city and the super bowl pretty good i've never been to a fucking Super Bowl. Jesus Christ.
You literally had never been to an NFL game. He's going to the Super Bowl.
That's insane. But it will be great content and we'll do it.
It will be a great PMTV. You'll get to see Max in all his glory.
We'll be tweeting out all the live stuff. So make sure you follow.
Maybe even you go live at some point from the part of my take Instagram. Who knows what the knows what the wifi situation is going to be like you're going to get to see Rihanna up close Hank and Jake aren't here I can say that with impunity I'm very excited to see Rihanna I'm very excited to just watch Max I wish I could just have you I might have a personal file of memes just sending everything I'm not I don't don't know the closer it gets like the more my heart is just like you're gonna scream at a little child and like it's gonna be oh man yeah i'm probably there's gonna be there could be tears every time i start talking about it he starts like getting deep into the recesses of his brain and realizing a loss is a possibility and you can hear the switch in his brain where he's like it's gonna be oh oh man oh oh it's gonna be he's gonna that's him realizing that a loss could happen and in that scenario he gets into like i'm gonna fight somebody yes i'm gonna be fighting someone with tears in my eyes yeah it's First time someone ever gets his ass beat while the other man's crying.

That would be awesome.

You should actually think about doing that.

You're going to see a rare side of me on Sunday night if the Eagles lose this game.

Yeah.

And it's.

I think we all know what side of you that's going to be.

I also.

We've seen it.

I'm going to say this right now.

Let's make sure maybe Sunday before you go to the stadium, we'll do like a quick video

with me and PFT just getting you pumped. Maybe we'll just go live for a minute.
Just last thoughts before you go into war. Okay.
Yeah. So get ready for that.
Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready.
Okay. Let's do the JJ Watt interview.
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Watt. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest.
I think we can give him two various. Very, very, very special guest, future Hall of Famer.
It is J.J. Watt.
We have to, first of all, thank you for coming. Thanks for having me.
This is the first exclusive interview you've given since you retired?

Let's say that.

Yeah, correct.

I mean, what other show did you do?

Yeah.

Rich Eisen?

I did Rich and Dan today, but not exclusive.

Not exclusive.

They didn't ask a question.

You definitely didn't go on Coward, right?

Yeah.

No.

Okay, good.

Also, Rich and Dan, I would assume, didn't ask you, like,

how long could you feel Ravel creeping on you on your last game? Like, we're going to get of course we're gonna get to that so those are the good questions this is gonna be a good yes yes all right so it's great to have you on here um if it I'm sad that you retired are you actually retired though we have to start there no but come on yes like really yeah let's hit him with some hypotheticals well okay hypothetically uh the Steelers are the one seed next year right right they they lose a defensive lineman right going into the playoffs it's like week 17 they're like hey JJ uh hey JJ you want to come play 10 million dollars finish out the season 10 million to finish out the season and we're 17 both your brothers I mean the one now in pittsburgh are you are you going to deny your family the joy of watching you play with your brothers i mean if there's 10 million dollars in week 17 with the one seed and everything that is in consideration all right so you're not no i'm you're definitely not retired well i mean you saw tom brady retired you're like well now i have to share the hall of fame induction ceremony with that guy it's going to be all about tom that weekend put it off a week and then it's like you and matt ryan you'll definitely be the perfect yeah you'll get the last speech i don't want the last speech oh no interest in the last okay so i can like i can just fluff it up for tom and let him hit it out of the park i can give him all like the the praise and everything and then just let him maybe say like a quick sentence about me before he gets into yeah thanking everybody so all right so this is where we get hank in a pickle because hank still hates you no doubt um yeah and and you you knew i'm here for it i'm here for it yeah so you brought it up you said like hank i'm sorry that you hate me yeah it was sad to see the look on the little troll smile on his face well he's proud of it i'm sure i mean he should be he's he's holding on he's holding on to the hate, which is great. So I told him last night, I was like, you know the old saying, you can't tell the story of football without this person.
That's kind of the mark of a Hall of Famer. You can't tell the story of football without J.J.
Watt and the dominance you had. I don't think you can tell the story of J.J.
Watt's career without pardon my take. So I'm wondering if maybe we should probably give the speech beforehand um you know your son won't be old enough so right maybe it's just us and and and you invite us to canton with you and hank will unfortunately not be able to attend even though tom brady will also be being abducted that weekend right so i mean you know maybe we'd give your speech the night before at the should set up there in Canton.
Yeah. And we'll, I mean, if I'm fortunate enough to get in, we do a PMT from there.
Don't do this. Don't do that.
Don't do that. I won't.
I won't. Come on.
When you retired, we actually had the debate on part of my take, and it was a no-brainer. A lot of people will say, like, J.J.
Watt, great player, all-time player, even better person. That's bullshit.
You're a way better football player than you are a person. And you're a pretty good person.
You're a very good person. But any of these guys out there that are like, oh, even better person? Nope.
Not true. Not nearly as good of a person.
I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
And probably true. Probably true.
Let's take off the humble stuff for a second. Your peak, because when you were at your peak, you were the most dominant player in the NFL.
Where would you put yourself? I know that like, all right, Reggie White, maybe Lawrence Taylor, you're in the conversation at your peak. Like if you took best defensive players at their peak, you're in the conversation.
Yeah, that's the problem. I was taught literally having this debate this morning with a couple guys,

and the issue with debates like that is what are you talking about?

When you say greatest defender of all time,

are you talking about longevity of their career?

Are you talking about if you took everything in their career and put it together,

or are you talking about for one single game?

Are you talking about for one single season, which player would you want?

Because that's different.

I mean, I'm never going to argue for the longevity of my career. I mean, I had injuries.
I had issues. I had things going on.
But for one season or one game, I'll put myself in that argument. I like that.
Yeah, because it's, I mean, it's a fact. Like your dominance in that stretch.
Was it three in a row? Did you win three in a row? Three out of four. Three out of four.
Three out of four defensive player of the years. and and i think that you know maybe i think people recognize that they realize like that stretch where it felt like there was a stretch where it felt like every time they would go on red zone and they'd cut to a texans game it was like what did jj watches do and i the one thing that i i heard about you and i don't know if you can speak to like this is possible, but in hearing about offensive linemen talk about how you played, they said the difference between you and everyone else is that your motor never stopped.
So you play one to play 70, you were still going 100%. Did you know that when you were playing? I have the ability to just never let up even a little bit.
Yeah, that's something I prided myself on. And I think, I mean, I don't have it in front of me, but I would say if I looked at most of the sacks and most of the TFLs and things for my career, I would assume that a decent majority of them were either in the back half of a season or in the back half of games, like the second half, because guys get worn down.
Guys get tired, whether it's the second half of a game or it's the second half of the season. You just get gassed, and that's what I prided myself on.
I mean, we all know my history of working out and some of the bullshit, but that's why I was who I was at the end of the season because of that, and it's also part of the reason I ended up injured. I like you say some of the bullshit when you retired, and then the next day, you took a picture of you at the squat rack.
Not the next day. It was the same day? No.
Oh. You took a day off? No.
It was like a couple. You're talking about the one from a couple days ago when D'Amico got hired? Yeah.
How long of a break did you take? Okay. I took 10 days.
10 days? Wow. Slacker change.
I felt. Yeah.
Yeah. That motor slowed out.
I can't do your guys' lifestyle. Okay? I just can't.
I tried it for 10 days 10 days wow i felt yeah yeah that motor yeah i can't do i can't do your guys lifestyle okay i just can't i tried it for 10 days i i mean i went home to wisconsin for a weekend and we threw a good party at a little irish pub in my town and got after it pretty good and i had no routine no nothing i'd sleep till i could wake up every day and hang out with my son all day and i was was like, dude, I got to get a routine. This is a shit show.
Like just a shit show. Too much freedom can be bad sometimes.
Yeah. That's also perfect too.
You basically were like, I went to a Wisconsin bar in the middle of winter, looked around and was like, I can't do this. This cannot be a weekly thing, man.
Like this cannot be it. So do you have any plans for retirement? Are you going to step on our turf? Are you going to be one of these players that retires and thinks they can take over the podcasting game because our motor never no no i can't keep up with the impact yeah no that's why you do not you guys are the reason i will not get into podcasting because of how much it's true you have to be pumping out content at such a crazy rate and you have to be doing it with such like veracity and enthusiasm and you have to be doing it constantly and you have to have a team that puts it together that literally is a deterrent for me like i i don't want to work that hard at that okay so um that's not it for me i'll let you know a little secret it's really easy yeah yeah super easy these guys do it all these guys do a lot of it they're not actually doing anything right now now.
It's just the microphones connect to the internet, and then people listen to us. It's pretty sweet.
That's fair. Although I think that you probably would take pride in, like, we take pride in having bad opinions.
You'd probably want to be correct. That's really the key to podcasting, is, like, if you don't care about being correct, it's very easy.
That's fair. That's one of the issues that I have, because, I mean, I do think that there's some form of broadcasting for me in the future, just cause I don't want to be away from the game.
I want to be around the game. I love it early in my career.
I said, I never do it. But the closer I got to the end, I realized like, it's just, it's too cool.
Like the NFL is awesome and I want to be around it, but I don't want to be around it in the capacity where I have to pour all my time and energy into it. But the problem with broadcasting is, is every week you got to make those picks where they put the little thing at the bottom and they're like this he picked 27 to 13 then on monday everybody comes in like look at this moron and i'm like what do you want me to do if i knew what i was doing i'd go to vegas i put it all on the line like nobody knows what's going on yeah you just have to be so bad you become good yeah that's like when everybody picks the one i'm the guy that picks the other one and then when you do win they're like he knew yeah right yeah right and i never lost i'm one and oh my last one yeah like i mean the game of the year yeah i gotta have took a game of the year almost killed me this year the baylor byu game i didn't sleep and i i got sick for like two weeks after so yeah it is it's harder than the nfl i would say oh easily yeah easily watching all these games if i knew it like games.
If I knew it, like my buddies, I mean, even just since the season ended, my buddies are asking me opinions and shit, and I'm trying to like, I'm literally trying to think like who would I actually pick in this game, and I'm nowhere close. Yeah.
Nowhere close. So you might want to get into broadcasting.
I'm hearing a no to coaching. Yeah.
D'Amico calls you up, and he's like, hey, I need your expertise on the defensive line. Are you thinking about it? I'll pop in and talk to the boys and I'll watch practice and I'll talk to them.
But no, I have no interest in the hours and the time commitment and going to the combine and going to the senior bowl and doing all these things. I do not have interest in that.
It is very funny whenever a guy retires like you and they're like, oh, he's going to be a coach. It's like, do you college coach a college coach would be oh miserable miserable yeah they put in so many hours so many hours yeah high school high school is certainly intriguing to me no doubt because of a the hours are less but b the impact that you can have yeah in the way that you can get to those kids and you can actually have some real conversations.
There's no NIL.

There's no anything else.

You're just, I mean, my high school coach had one of the biggest impacts on me and some of the messages he gave.

And I think that you can help mold the kid's life.

And not the kid that's going to college to play football.

You can mold a kid's life who's going to college or going to the trades.

I mean, one of my best friends from back home is a plumber.

And to this day, we talk about the messages our high school coach gave us. That's cool.
That is very cool. That's yeah.
How's your heart doing? It's all right, man. It's crazy.
So I, I, after that incident happened, it scared the shit out of me. And I had a lot of like deep, deep thoughts about life and everything.
And for about a week, week and a half, I would check my pulse 10 times times a day and I'm just checking my heart like I have devices and everything I was checking it just because I was scared and everything was normal and then I think it was probably best that I jumped right back into the game because it didn't give me time to think about it and then I all of a sudden settled back into my routine and I was it went away I stopped thinking about it. Is that one of those things where like it was you thought that you had to get back in the routine at the time but maybe

five ten years from now you're going to look back and be like why did I play why did I play a game of football like a week after my heart got shocked back in the rhythm it can definitely seem like that and then for me and my wife at the time it kind of felt like that oh you guys got divorced no at that moment

yeah yeah yeah

so uh

but I mean we literally

I mean I talked to eight or nine doctors in a 48 hour period that weekend. And I was asking every single question, like, what can possibly happen? What happens if my heart goes back out of the rhythm during the game? What happens if when I'm practicing tomorrow, my heart goes out of the rhythm? Like every single question.
I mean, I had anesthesia. They put me out to shock my heart back in and I'm like, what happens if when I'm practicing tomorrow my heart goes out of the rhythm like every single question I mean I had anesthesia they put me out to shock my heart back in and I'm like what happens if I'm at practice tomorrow and I just had anesthesia today like we asked every question the doctors gave me the all clear so what exactly happened like what how did it all happen take us through like you just woke up one day and it was no no so I was at practice on Wednesday went out to practice I came in did my workout after my workout I was in the meetings in the afternoon and I stood up after one of our meetings and I was like lightheaded you know that feeling sometimes we stand up and you're lightheaded you're like whoa you just got to balance yourself which is normal so I was like all right let's go on but the next meeting I stood up and I had it again and I was like my heart was beating weird and one of our assistant coaches looked at me he's like you all right and the little you all right kind of gave me that like oh shit somebody else saw it yeah it wasn't just me feeling like a little off so I went in our trainers I was like hey my heart's beating a little weird and I'm real short of breath um can you just check my pulse and they check my pulse and our trainer looked at me and he was like um we're gonna we're gonna send you to look at some and that scares the shit out of you because like i was just expecting him to be like yeah no problem so then he sent me to our team doctor they get an ekg on me he read the ekg and he was like oh uh i'm gonna i'm gonna send you to a cardiologist right now and Jesus.
So I'm like, fuck, amen. So they send me to the cardiologist, and the cardiologist runs the test, and he's doing the ultrasound of my heart.
And so I'm laying on the table, and I've told this story before, but I'm laying on the table doing an ultrasound. Literally, the week before, we were doing the ultrasound of my son.
Yep. So I'm getting the ultrasound of my son, seeing that, and then the next week we're doing an ultrasound of my heart, seeing if I'm going to live or I don't know.
I have no clue. I'm like, am I going to die? And it scared the shit out of me.
And I was so worried and everything. And my wife is worried.
I mean, it's and he does the ultrasound and he goes, OK, I'm going to send you to a specialist. And now I'm like, what the fuck, man? Like, why? I'm sending five rungs up the ladder here.
Like, this is real. And they sent sent me to like a electro physicist or something and he was explaining to me what was going on and it was it was basically just an afib i mean people have afib all the time there's people walking around with afib like so in the end it turned out to not be the scariest thing but it was scary because i'm a professional athlete right and it uh we caught it within 24 hours which meant that that saved a lot of potential issues because if you're out for more than 48 hours you can have blood clot issues you can have stroke potential and things but since we caught it so fast they said you're okay we shocked it back in and dude it was it was it was crazy so what I'm hearing is you're a clone and the real JJ watch dead I mean mean, the real JJ would never retire from football.
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
You're right. That's what happened.
I'm all AI. It's all AI.
That's scary, though. And having like your heart shock back into rhythm and then, yeah, you're right.
Like looking, you're always looking over your shoulder like, am I going back into it? And then your mind thinks maybe you're going back into it when you're not. To this day, I'll check my pulse.
And my wife, I mean, so they took me into the hospital to shock it back into it and then your mind thinks maybe you're going back into it when you're not to this day i'll check my pulse and my wife i mean so so they took me into the hospital uh to shock it back in the rhythm and my wife they're like would you like to be in the room for it and she's like no i don't want to be in the room like what the fuck you mean no so i mean they literally i mean took my shirt off like gave me some anesthesia put me out and then put the pads on your chest like just like you just like shock you and then 10 minutes later in harmony 10 minutes later i'm out the door and that's stuff that she broke up with you after that your lowest that's a crazy story then you played like and then the mar hamlin stuff happens you that had to have been it was you're like that could have been me i mean i know it's different but yes in my house watching. It's me and my wife and our son.
We're just watching the game on Monday night. And I went to the kitchen to make some food.
And I turn around and look at the TV, and everybody stopped. And so I stand.
And I stood in front of my fireplace, in front of the TV, three feet away from the TV for 45 minutes. Yeah.
I did not move. And it was just the scariest.
And then at that moment, my wife had already known that I was retiring and everything. And that was when she was like, I could not be more happy that you're retiring.
I mean, it was just scary. Wait, so when did you decide you were going to retire? Months, months ago.
Really? Yeah. I knew.
Was it the start of the season or was it before the season? It was before the season. I knew that if I was playing at a level that I was proud of, it was over.
Like I've been kind of trying to find that season where I was putting film out there and I was playing football that I was proud of, that I could show my son my final season and say, look, this is dad. I didn't want it to be an injured season.
I didn't want it to be, you know, a season where I sucked. Like I wanted it to be something where I could look back on and be proud of.
And your retirement, the way you did it was awesome. The tweet, it confused a lot of people.
Did you realize that? No. Yeah, because the tweet was, Koa's first ever NFL game, my last ever NFL home game.
I think it was just so subtle. Because people don't retire like that.
I obviously, I read it, it was like, oh, he's retiring. But everyone replying was like was like does this mean you're done yeah i mean it was a cool way to do it thank you were you thinking of other options so i had thought for a long because i've known for a long time and i've asked i was talking to my agent my wife and i was talking to my family like what do you think is the best way to do it because i did want to do it with a little time left i wanted to do with two games left just so that i could say goodbye to teammates the right way, the fans.
I wanted to be able to say goodbye. But there was no way in my head that I was like, every way kind of felt like it was really making it super about you.
And I didn't want it to just be like, hey guys, this is it. So I wanted it to be about my son and my family and about the reason that I'm retiring.
And I didn't know until that morning that that's how I was going to do it. But I got some, uh, they sent us the pictures from the game and they had the picture of my son and my wife.
And I was like, this is it. It was perfect.
I appreciate it. And the, and the video was great, uh, that they showed of everyone from your career now, not to be narcissistic, but I was like half watching it being like, are me and PFT going to pop up in this video? I was wondering why no one asked.
Yeah It's pretty crazy how that video came about, and I am massively thankful and will forever be grateful for this video. My D-line coach, Matt Burke, when I said I was retiring, so we had two weeks to basically put it together, and he just got on the phone and called the first person he knew and spread the word like wildfire, and people started firing their videos back, and I'm so grateful to him because, I mean, I was walking into that meeting.
We had Hard Knocks, and Hard Knocks is literally around 24-7. And they were like, hey, can we mic you up for this meeting? And I was like, guys, you've mic'd me up all week.
We've got cameras everywhere. I've given two speeches to the team this week.
I don't want to be mic'd up. And they were like, well, we think he's got something special playing.
Vance, our D coordinator. And I was like, they don't have anything special, dude.
Like, we've got a coordinator and i was like they don't have anything special dude like we got a game tomorrow like they don't have anything special and then we went to that meeting and vance put on the film and i was like i was kind of pissed i was watching film it was my last game yeah just let me go to bed man like i want to go to bed and then burke got up and said the video and he showed it dude and i mean i don't know like the emotions that flowed through me and i wasn't ready for it i wasn't ready to see my whole career in terms of what it meant to other people and in terms of thinking about myself in fifth grade and where i ended up and thinking about this is literally it i'm never ever in my life gonna play the game i love unless the steelers it uh it just it blew my mind and i the waterworks started and it couldn't stop it was crazy see I'm pissed we should have been in that what would your reaction have been if like halfway through it's just oh hey JJ the whole room would have lost it the whole room would have died laughing oh we're gonna have to remake it and put ourselves in it yeah yeah yeah is there like one week or one game looking back over your career, like when you were truly at the height of your powers,

when you were the peak J.J. Watt?

I've said my favorite three minutes of football that I've ever played

was a game versus the Tennessee Titans at home in Houston a year

where I got a strip sack.

I picked up the ball, ran it like 15 yards.

I came off the field for one play.

They threw a ball down to de-hop to the one-yard line.

They called me back in. I went in the backfield, motioned and ryan fitzpatrick threw me a touchdown the next play so like a three-play stretch where i did everything i could do on defense and then i went out and scored on offense to me that was the coolest moment of my career because i felt like i was playing backyard ball yeah that is pretty at the highest level it sucked that we weren't allowed to use you as a tight end in fancy football back then yeah but if i if I score, did it count? Like on team defense? Or how does that work? No, it didn't.
If somebody drafted you as like an individual defensive player, maybe that would count. But you should have been able to start J.J.
Watt as a tight end. Yeah.
Yeah, that's bullshit. So who gets that touchdown? Nobody.
Yeah, no one. Never happened.
Yeah, never happened. So the best three minutes of your life didn't happen.
Yeah, gone. Sorry.
Erased. Damn life yeah so what were the worst three minutes of football life oh and why was it when brett bielman just didn't run john clay in the rose bowl amen man i mean amen that was the like your wisconsin football tank carter the freaking uh the dumbest thing ever the two-point conversion that he blocked i was sitting like 10 rows up from that i was like just run john clay.
How cool was that just until that moment, until we lost? Yeah. But like the Rose Bowl is the coolest thing of all time.
The best. Yeah.
And then losing sucks. I talked a lot of shit before the game, I remember.
But yeah, what was the worst three minutes? I mean, the worst three minutes is, you know, take your pick of my injuries. I think my broken leg was certainly up there.
That hurt like a motherfucker. Yeah.
What what about you were on the field and alex smith broke his leg yeah that sucked and i did not know that i was the hit and the reason until years later when they like the three the e60 and they showed the slow motion and everything it was you yeah wow definitely not a better person than a football player yeah no not at all did that to him not at to him? Not at all. No, it's terrible.
I felt bad. I mean, immediately after the game, I texted him and everything.
Because the play was crazy because I just assumed it was a concussion or something. Because Kareem Jackson actually got the sack.
And I came in and he was still up. So I came in and I was coming over the top.
And then I ran off because we were excited. And I saw him laying down.
I was like, oh, it's got to be a concussion or something because he's really down. And we were all taking a knee and then we saw eventually what actually happened.
And then years later, somebody told me the story that it's like the exact same yard line as Joe Theismann. It was like the exact same.
And then it was also me and Lawrence Taylor, the two or three-time defensive player of the year. There were these crazy synergies that blew my mind.
It's like the Lincoln-K where like lincoln secretary is named kennedy kennedy's named lincoln but just know that it's not your fault it's not your fault it's that field yeah yeah it's a bad field it's cursed it's not your fault are you uh are you looking for a new field are you guys is it happening what's going on over there move to to the site of old rfk stadium that's what i'm looking at yeah and with lamar right i mean I mean, I know you're... No, Lamar has been rumored.
Many sources are saying that. I mean, yeah.
I've seen a lot of photos. I've seen a lot of photos.
There's a lot of Photoshop. They look good.
They look good. We actually, we have a graphics guy and his main job is to make YouTube thumbnails for us.
And we just started hitting him up with these absurd Photoshop requests. And they take two hours.
I didn't realize that. Oh my God.
We didn't know that they took two hours. I thought it was – He's just not sleeping.
Because we're just asking, like, Devontae Adams in a Bears uniform. He's like, all right, I'm not sleeping.
He's clocked in about 30 hours over the last few weeks just making Lamar Jackson Photoshop. Holy shit.
But, no, I mean, I'd like to get off that field. Everybody's been hurt on that field.
Yeah, I mean, and just, like, as a guy who's playing every – Every state? My last two games were the last two stadiums I had to play in. So I played in every single stadium.
Yeah. Yeah, the place could use the upgrade.
We're grass grass guys. Yeah.
Not turf grass. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where do you land on that? I am on the – if the weather is great and everything is all the exact same, grass 1,000%. I am also a pass rusher who needs my footing.
So rain, snow, things like that, I do like turf. But I will not go against my fellow NFL brothers who are very much fighting the fight for grass.
You're thinking about maybe getting into ownership, right? Soccer ownership, I'm big into, yes. Would you be interested in maybe about $20,000 of a team called Swansea that someone might be trying to unload? You have Swansea? Yeah, just losing money every year.
So you want some of that? I'll give it to you. I've literally been looking at Swansea.
Oh, okay, great. So yeah, great.
So you can take my shares. What kind of discount are we looking at? When did you get into Swansea? Because I noticed you were a Swansea fan when they were back when they were playing the championship.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they stink.
And here's the one thing I'll say if you are thinking about Swansea. Actually, that would be great because every probably six months or so, I'll just start getting tweets that will be like, fuck you, you American pig.
And I'll be like, what's this? And then I'll look, and it's like a message board, and it will be like Liverpool has LeBron and we have this fat blogger. And it's just like, oh, okay, I guess this riled them up.
That's the one drawback of minority ownership. I mean, because let's be honest, I don't have enough money to buy a majority of any team.
So you're the face and they want you to be a part of it partially because of that. And you have a little bit of say here and there.
Oh, I have zero say. I have 0.001% share.
Like I have zero say. But you get all the shit when they suck.
Correct. So you can have mine.
Oh, okay. I'll give it to you for free.
I think it's worth nothing now. But yeah, you can have it.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
I just don't have to do my taxes in November because of it. Are you interested in a professional lacrosse league team? This has to be perfect.
The dogs have been playing good. The dogs have been playing good.
The water dogs.

The JJ water dogs.

The current ownership has really trashed that place, though.

Wow, we won a championship.

Banners fly for the results.

How many championships have you won?

Zero.

Yeah, maybe some of your owners should have belittled you a little more.

They should have.

Maybe I don't respond to positive reports.

Yeah, I should have just had people shit on me more.

Yeah.

A couple coaches tried. Yeah.
Are you going to go into the hall of fame as a Texan? I, this is an honest question. I don't know how any of that works.
Like, I see the bus. The bus doesn't have a hat.
You're not wearing a hat. Yeah.
I think it's just baseball. I think baseball, they make you choose your hat.
Yeah. But I just want to trap you into saying like, I don't know if you had something bitter to say about the Texans no they just hired one of my favorite teammates of all time I'm it was one of the best decisions they could have ever made because immediately I mean we've obviously gone through some struggles there in the last few years but immediately every single old players on board all the fans are on board like you want to fill that stadium up again next year D'Amico as your coach is immediately doing yeah he's gonna be awesome so you you pretended that you weren't gonna make the hall of fame that was funny um let's do a little role play we'll do David Baker so he knocks on your door he's like hey JJ you've made the hall of fame are you gonna tell us what your reaction like let's pretend that this is happening right now this is another question I'm fascinated to how the hell does that work like where is the hotel where where are these hotels? I think it's at the Super Bowl week.
Oh, he's no longer. Yeah, let's just say for the argument that he is.
It's David Baker. David Baker, giant guy.
You know the dude? He puts everybody up in hotel rooms somehow. They're all in the same hotel.
It's Super Bowl week. But is he putting up guys that aren't making it? It's Super Bowl week.
Yeah, everybody. So that's what I'm saying.
If David Baker is putting you up in a hotel yeah i'm not crying because he i know i'm in you're going in right away all the finalists so then they go in a back room and then they have like i don't know peter king orders three dozen pizzas doesn't pay for any of them stands on tables like here's why i think this guy should make it in and then after they after no was that pizza parties are underrated yeah they are yeah when's last time you had a good pizza party? It's been a little while. See, again, these are the things that we do for ownership.
Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, they knock on your door after they take the final vote, and then they tell you you made the Hall of Fame.
Congrats. So there's probably like five or six people that don't get that knock.
That is crazy. Yeah.
That sucks. So what are you going to do? Are you going to cry? Are you going to? I don't know.
I don't know. Show us your shock face.
I didn't think I was going to cry in my last game. So I don't know.
Maybe I will. Did you cry during the game? So it was, I mean, we got crushed.
We lost 37 to 14. Take your hand card.
You were crying on the field while you were rushing the passer? So we lost 37 to 14 or whatever. But I got two sacks, which I was jacked about, obviously, my last game.
And with two minutes left in the game, the 49ers put up a graphic that said, like, congrats on a Hall of Fame career or whatever. And the fans literally started chanting my name, and they took me out.
Like, they called a timeout and took me out. Damn.
So, like, I was literally like, this is fucking crazy. Yeah.
Fans in an opposing stadium are chanting my name. The opposing team put my face up there, and this is it.
This is time i'm gonna walk off the field so i was yeah i was crying my son was in the stands my wife was in the stand yeah it was it was a cool moment so when you get off the field and you take off like all your pads and stuff how quickly did darren revell ask to to take like you know your jersey and all that come on like you knew he was behind you i didn't yes you did so this is this is part of the interesting part of that so i know he got roasted for that yeah rightfully so he literally cut in line of special needs so those kids he did he did we saw the video you were making a beeline over to the kids and they were so excited oh my god it's like you're their hero and then darren's like, excuse me, Mr. Watt.
This is so, so, so good because this is the most funny epitome of like what you only get what you see. And you immediately make your opinions on it.
So those kids, they had been there literally. It was crazy.
They were there for at least an hour. That makes it worse.
No, no. So I had seen them four times.
I had seen them four times, and I talked to them every time, and it was awesome. They were giving me shit because I'm a cardinal, and they're 49ers, and I was trying to get them to come to our side.
But so then that was like the fourth time. I literally had no – because Darren and I are buddies.
Like I know you guys hate him, and we're buddies. I'm starting to see the next side of things.
Maybe you're not a Hall of Fame. Yeah, not a Hall of Fame.
Maybe you're right. You are a Hall of Fame.
So he had flown in. I didn't know he was coming.
So he was, like, surprising me at my last game. That's the worst surprise ever.
So I did not know he was there. I wasn't looking for him.
And then the whole thing that went down. But I will say this about him.
He handed me, after the handed me a binder and in that binder the face of the binder said um daddy's cards and it said for koa and inside was every single trading card from the time i started wisconsin until my last game in the nfl and it was for my son he was stalking him it was pretty cool and he got him just so he basically was like here's my stalking material did he have like all the eyes out of all the trading cards? I mean, he made a Twitter account for my son when he was born. He's a weirdo.
No, he didn't. Yeah, he did.
Did he really? Yeah. He was like, you got a squad on digital rights or something like that.
I was like, what the fuck, dude? Okay. I'll admit, it's very thoughtful that he did.
That is a nice gift. That's a nice gift.
We'll give him that. That's a very nice gift.
He probably is going to be hitting you up to like, actually, he probably handed it to you because he was expecting you to sign every card. Probably, yeah.
And give it back to him. Yeah, with authenticated.
And your son's signature too. Grab some brass and put it in.
Like, yeah, my son's signature. So wait, how is dad life? How old is your son now? He's three months.
Okay. He's the best.
Yeah. It's the greatest.
I don't, you know, just like everybody, before you you have a son or before you have a daughter everybody tells you how great it is and you're like sure whatever um but it is truly the greatest thing of all time and I can't explain it to people because you don't understand until you do it do you think he had anything to do because like I I agree with everything you said you know I cried both times my my children were born do you think though like because your heart does grow bigger do you think your son maybe had something to do with your heart going out of them possibly cause that possibly yeah absolutely yeah just too much love like i just can't but he did the cool thing someday i'll tell him since he was born i had in my last 10 games since he was born i had 10 sacks in 10 games that's insane like i literally turned into like a fucking good football player. Yeah, that's what happens.
We bet on golfers after they have kids for that exact reason. NFL player, I bet on you to get a sack.
I think your first game after having a kid. Yeah, because it's like something about a player having a kid, they're going out there, they're playing for a sense, like a purpose bigger than themselves.
Their teammates are usually pretty happy for them because he just had a baby. It's the easiest bet of all time.
Oh, no question. I mean, if you're a receiver or something, the quarterback is definitely throwing you the ball in the red zone.
Yeah. Yes.
Are you going to let your son play football? If he wants to, absolutely. I mean, his wife's an incredible soccer player.
My wife's an incredible soccer player, so he can follow in his mom's footsteps and do that. But, yeah, if he wants to play football, he can play.
He's huge right now. Really? Yeah, kid is gigantic.
How soon, because you always hear rumors of, like, a giant baby born in Louisiana, and, like, Louisiana State immediately offers them a scholarship. How quickly can somebody offer your son a scholarship to play football? Because, honestly, right now, I'm speaking on behalf of James Madison University, my alma mater.
I would like to officially offer your son a giant NIL deal to go to James Madison. So he's got his first offer.
Thank you. Coe's going to be like 15 years old.
I'm going to be sliding into his DMs being like, you want to make some sick T-shirts? Come to Wisconsin. Yeah.
No, he's got some of those. He's got some of those.
And we're going to look at all options. We're going to take all five visits.
You know he's going to be a Badger. Has to.
By the way, do you have that stuff? I mean, my wife went to North Carolina and won national championships. It's been a blast to learn about their program.
She shits on me with their stats. Their women's soccer national championship streak is one of the most incredible things.
If you go back to like 1982, maybe even a little bit before that,

and then trace it all the way through like 2006

or whatever it was,

they won something like 25 out of 27 national championships.

It is unbelievable.

It's the best sports dynasty of all time.

I lose every argument ever.

Yeah, but now we have Luke Fickle.

I know.

So we have future national championships lined up.

We're lined up for future.

We've got 25 in a row.

What'd you do with the stuffed badger?

Because when you opened that gift

and you tweeted about it,

I'm going to 25 in a row. What did you do with the stuffed badger? Because when you opened that gift and you tweeted about it, I looked at it and everyone was like, what the hell? I was like, I want that.
Dude, how cool is it, right? And nobody appreciates it but like badgers. So I sent my wife a picture from the facility when I opened it and she sent one message back.
Do not bring that home. But I was like, I'm definitely definitely bringing it home so right now it's sitting in my garage i'll take it waiting for a home i'll take it no it's awesome yeah i know it's fun i had been looking i don't know why i was googling this like a week earlier i literally googled what is a badger like as a pet and uh not good not good probably the worst very not good i would say like a skunk number one.
Yes. Very bad.
Very bad pet. Did you name it? Bucky.
That's Bucky also? Every badger? Every badger in the world is named Bucky. If you've actually ever talked to an animologist every badger is named Bucky.
It's like every butler is named Jeeves. Every badger is named Bucky.
Okay. Got butler is named Jeeves every badger is named Bucky you see a badger in the wild it's Bucky just say his name he'll come running to you so now for the hard questions how pumped are you to try smoking weed for the first time pretty excited looking forward to it I've got a lot of teammates who are looking forward to that day as well throughout my whole career throughout my career.
Throughout my whole career. Wait, have you never smoked weed? No.
Shut up. No.
I believe it. Yeah.
So throughout my whole career, I always told guys like, yeah, after my career, someday I'll do it. Someday I'll do it.
And every guy is like, whenever that day is, I will fly there. I will be there.
We're doing it together. So I got to like throw like a massive party or something.
This is going to be great too because you're going to be the guy who smokes weed for the first time being like, I think I have a heart attack. And we won't know if that's it.
We actually have to take you to the hospital. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, oh, shit. You're going to get so high.
You think you have a heart attack? That's how it feels? No, some people will be like, no, that's not. Are you guys high right now? Yes.
All right. Always contact me.
Yeah, you should live stream that. I know you probably can't.
Oh, yeah. That's probably not going to be good for any future business whatsoever.

I mean, when you decide to run for president, eventually they're just going to have that on you.

It is legal.

It's legal here. Yeah.

Are you running for president?

I am not.

Okay.

Maybe an exploratory committee.

I don't know.

Larry Fitzgerald hasn't been like, here's how you run for office.

Because I'm sure that dude's going to be a senator.

Has to be.

Has to be.

He absolutely runs this place.

Deservedly so.

Yeah.

But it's no for politics for you right now.

Thank you. how you run for office because i'm sure that dude's gonna be a senator has to be has to be he absolutely runs this place deservedly so yeah but no it's no for politics for you right now uh correct well he's only 33 it's a no win i mean it's a no win unless you win yeah yeah but then you still lose it's not fun who the hell wants that job yeah so that's that's why i think you should have it because i think anybody that wants to be president or wants to be a politician, that should automatically disqualify them from politics.
That's a good, yeah. All right, so since we're doing hard questions, let's pretend that we do get invited to go.
We're not going to speak a can, but we're going to just be part of the Watt entourage. Who's the iciest to us in your family? Is there any still residual anger about oh hey jj period of pardon my take the legitimate probably would probably be my grandma yeah yeah it's probably my grandma just because she is the one who was like what are these people doing why are these why are all these people saying these things to you um because everybody else has kind of moved past i mean it is wild like and i've told you guys multiple times like it it called me out on some shit that i probably need to be called out on and it kind of changed my the way that i attack some things and maybe i let it get to me too much at times i'm sure but it uh i mean i like it it's a success story because i do think and we were probably very mean um hanks thinks we should have never let up uh oh that's his biggest critique he thinks he also claims like three super bowl trophies that he had personally personally yeah yeah he but he doesn't understand like i remember you did you did kind of change like you weren't yeah there was a moment where it was maybe like oh there's a little it was the it was the hard knocks the yeah oh yeah the good ass dude speech all that yeah right and then from that moment on like you changed it's like i whenever someone says like what's like dude he's a really nice guy he's well-intentioned it's not like a bad thing he just you know yeah i was trying too hard i was just trying too hard and i i thought that's what that's what i was supposed to do on the rise like when you as you get more notoriety as i'd never done it before i didn't know i was just trying to be the person like like the fucking Captain America that I thought you were supposed to be.
Right. When I didn't really, like I wasn't secure enough in myself to be like, if you're just you, that's fine.
And that's the beauty because I think as sports fans, like all we want is the authentic from people. And when it's authentically changed, it's like, yeah, he's just a really fucking good guy.
And like that's authentically,entically, you root for guys like that. You know what I mean? You want guys

like that to succeed and go to the Hall of Fame.

I don't think your heart was always in the

right place, ironically, but

it's not anything bad to be like,

I want to be a good role model for kids.

You were trying to do the right thing.

It was just something that, there's no way

that you can be prepared to deal with all that fame. I always think anybody that gets that level of fame when they're 21 22 23 years old it's gonna fuck with them a little bit like having millions of people have an opinion on you no matter what you do so yeah you were trying to do the best you could we were trying to do the best we could we were dicks but then we grew up too our little Grinch's hearts they grew three sides except for hanks which is okay yeah he still hates you yeah he hates your guts it's crazy it's great he when we when we you have to have that yeah i texted i was like yeah jj's gonna come by it'd be a great interview first interview he's doing after he retires and hank was like hank was like yeah can we can we like maybe run that sometime this summer'll hang on to it for a while.
We can all grow, Hank. We can all grow.
Nothing they're saying is true. If I can change and you can change, then we all can change.
You need haters. Because once you start to get everybody on your side, that's when people are like, ah, this isn't cool.
Yeah. We don't like it.
I just like how you guys are turning you guys coming at JJ into that was all me. Well, we changed.
We all changed jj pft and i all changed together it's called growth and we got became better people we came we like we met jj in the middle he was captain america we were like the biggest troll dickheads in the world and then we found a common ground of like hey maybe we're all decent guys except you hank yeah i mean listen maybe i maybe i troll a little bit too hard but jj said something he walked in i've been thinking about it he's like I hope you win with 99 and I think I'm just gonna ride with 99 for the lottery but he's not gonna win though that's the thing yeah he's gonna win we're gonna win no he's not he's gonna win yes I will wow so if you win with 99 then you have to give all the credit. Now I'm rooting for him.
You know what? That's going to kill him. We think that the reason why he still hates you and he can't let go of it is because of that playoff game where Arian Foster designed those Letterman jackets and you guys all wore them up there.
And then you got the shit kicked out of you by the Patriots. But Hank, for some reason.
Why would you be mad about that of us dude yeah I know I'm not they they know we people still bring me up like haha your stupid letterman jacket and I'm like yeah we fucking got crushed like like the joke was on us like we took the L what do you want whose idea was it actually um it was a couple defensive guys um it was it was uh Connor Barwin and Sean Cody. Two guys.
Really, really good

locker room guys. Really with their hearts

in the right place. Trying to do something.
Team.

Trying to do something together. And just

very, very big backfire.

Very big backfire. You can't walk off the bus with those

and then get killed. No, no.
Just get crushed.

Not good. You can't do that.
Not good.

It is kind of cool though that Bill O'Brien

is going to be up in New England. Because I always thought

he gets an unfair shake for how things turned out in Houston. I think Bill O'Brien, the general manager, we need to separate that from Bill O'Brien, the head coach.
And as an X's and O's guy, I think he's got a pretty good proven track record. That's very fair.
He got the Texans, I think it was like 54-48 record over the course of his whatever, 10 years or however long that was. Got to the playoffs a bunch.
that's pretty good yeah for the Houston Texans franchise I feel like he's actually going to be a pretty good addition to New England so Hank will have to start thawing out that icy heart when it comes to yeah former Texans no that's fair that's fair so I got a question I asked Eli Manning when he was on okay I hope that you answer this the way I want you to my idea has always been that that every college should get one alumni can play on the team after they retire, whatever. So Tebow could still be playing for the floor.
If that were the case, would you play one year for the Badgers and just dominate? Yes. Absolutely.
How much would you dominate? That's a great question. It'd be fascinating.
Man, I think it'd be pretty good. Yeah.
I think I'd be pretty good. Yeah.
How fun would that be? It's partially just the knowledge because like in college, the kids still have classes. They still have all this stuff going on and they're still young.
And so the schemes can't be as complicated. They can't be as like crazy as in the NFL where it's literally you're studying it all day every day.
So there's stuff where you would just know before the play what's happening, and you'd just go wreck shop. Yeah.
Is there a player that you've gone up against where the first couple reps of the game, he just eats your lunch, just puts you into the turf. He feels way stronger, way better than you, and that you change something up over the course of that game, and you're like, I think I can guy if i do x y and z because it seems to me where if i was a defensive player and i got just destroyed the first play of the game by the guy i'm going to be facing up against all game that would be like i can't beat this guy yeah immediately but you have to you have to move on from that somehow so is there a guy that yes that started out against you like that yeah um so i think that one of the guys that does that very well is trent williams trent does he has some tricks and things to his game that are just very very smart very vet savvy like things that he can do um one of his biggest things that he does is like when you fire off the ball as a defensive line you fire off with your hands and he'll just knock your hands down and you'll fall flat on your face and it's not like the most impressive physical feat ever it's just he just knocked you down but man you feel like a bitch and so like so then you get up after that and you're like I just looked like an idiot did the announcers on tv just say like look at this guy face first in the dirt like Trent Williams is a beast and like so you're kind of thinking about that but then you have to like throughout the course of the game combat that and you have to know what he's doing and you have to like flash your hands and get him to try it, and then you power into him.
Or you have to, I did it to him one time. You just kind of play this game back and forth.
When you're at the elite of the elite and you're playing against the top of the top, those are the level of mind games that you're playing. Like, all right, he knows that last pass rush I went with the bull rush, so he might try and knock this bull rush down if I do it again.
So if I flash my hand, he's going to try and knock it down, which means then I have, it's like chess where you're like, okay, if they move rook to this and I'm, it's, it's fun. And that's when it's really fun.
So what defensive lineman that you either played at the same time or watched growing up that you like, maybe a move that they had that you always tried to do that you couldn't do like Vaughn Miller's ghost move or something like that reggie white's hump reggie white's hump move is one of the coolest most dominant moves of all time i can't do it like you have to have this unbelievable ability to take all of your weight as fast as you can up the field slam on the brakes on one foot while also simultaneously throwing a 310 pound offensive lineman and then coming back under. The way Reggie did it and the efficiency he did it with was one of the coolest things of all time.
He just tossed dudes. Just tossed dudes.
And he just got them to use their own momentum against themselves, but he could do it because of the athlete he was with how hard he could stop on one foot where a lot of people just can't put all that weight into one foot and it's crazy that that's the part of the game that's always fascinating because like back to trent williams like when when we asked people like we had we were watching games with kyle long a couple weeks ago we're like what what is it that trent williams he's like it's all his feet like that's and you don't think about that because you think of strength and you think of speed he's like his feet his balance is always at the right spot it's those little pieces like you saying, Reggie White, it's the ability to stop that really makes that move. Trans athleticism is insane.
Like you watch him move in space. You watch him on a pole when he comes around the edge.
Like it's incredible. You watch Lane Johnson, very similar.
Like guy is so athletic, so fast. I mean, he's been known to get out of his stance extremely fast.
Not cheating, though.

No, no. If they don't call it, it's not cheating.
That's the way it works. But he's so fast, and then he beats you to that spot so quickly, so you immediately have to change your entire pass rush plan because he's already where you want to be.
So now you've got to be like, all right, if I go underneath, but he's so fast, he changes direction. So it's those games that are a blast to play.
That's awesome. Is there a move that should be named after you? Ooh.
I bet if you asked guys

the move that should be named after you? Ooh. I bet if you asked guys the move that should be named after me isn't even a sack.
It's more for tackles for loss. Like it's this little backdoor swim that I do.
I jab down really hard in the run game when I know that they're going this way because they're going to overcommit to me. And then I swim backside and I can plant my foot in the ground and fly down the line and make the TFL.
It's something that is frowned upon because it's very difficult, but when you're able to do it, it's so successful. So Wade Phillips, my first year in the league, he yelled at me the first three times I ever did it.
I made TFLs in practice all three times and he yelled at me, he said, don't ever do that again. I got another TFL, Don't ever do that again.
Third time, he stopped the whole thing, and he looked at the whole defense, and he said, nobody's allowed to do this, but J.J. can.
That's awesome. It was the coolest thing ever.
That's great. I was going to say your other move would be like a wrestler with a razor blade just cutting your nose before the game.
Yeah, I should have kept that going. I really should have kept that going.
You were the most bloody player in in the nfl by a significant margin for a couple years there yeah i had a helmet that just battered the shit out of my nose it looked badass yeah it was cool it hurt like a bitch yeah it hurt but it did look cool thank you so so the jj it sounds like the play is just you you run you figured out a way to run around a offensive tackle in like three steps. Yes, exactly.
That's pretty cool. And then come back on the running back.
The best plays in football are when you can get a guy to do something that you want him to do and use his own momentum against him. So for me, that first jab was getting him to think I'm going down.
So he's like, shit, I got to catch up. So he flies down, and now he's out of my way.
Now all I got to do is take that step back and go same with uh anything else same with reggie white's hump move he's trying to get all the offensive lineman's momentum to go this way thinking he's running a speed rush and then all reggie does is give him this little arm and he can throw him 10 yards i mean that playing the super bowl against the patriots where he threw the guy 10 yards all he did was use his own momentum against him yeah that's football you You're a receiver is trying to get a DB to think he's running deep, throw him by and then stop for a comeback. So you're definitely an all time great student of the game.
Is your brother better than you? At football, football, I playing football. Um, I believe that Derek, Derek's a great football player.
He is. Fullbacks matter.
They do. He scored a touchdown that last game.
I mean, I keep like, why don't you use a fullback more? Yep. That's the other reason why he hates you.
I sent you that clip. I mean, that was just legendary.
Did you send that to him? That was, I mean. Oh, yeah.
No, we had a great, great laugh about it, which is just phenomenal. Wait, this is Derek-wise.
Dude, what a moment. What a crazy-ass moment.
But TJ is pretty good.

So TJ, if he stays healthy, and I hope he stays healthy,

and I hope he does, he'll break every record I got,

and he will absolutely be a better player than me.

There's no doubt.

For a single season, for a single being able to do everything,

I won't give up that title.

Okay.

You could always just throw a nut at him, too.

Throw a what? A nut, an actual nut. I almost killed him last super bowl week that was a it was bad big cat was like so yeah so we heard it here wild sentence there i mean yeah i mean just he's like you're what you when you said my wife at the time yeah yeah it's like we heard that you're allergic to tree nuts so i got you this bag and big cat thought that he was being clever.
Because the bag was filled with almonds, but Big Cat thought that a tree nut was a separate nut from an almond. Something came from a tree.
Yeah. And then he was like, so I've got this bag here.
I'm just going to throw this bag of almonds at him. I was like, wait, I'm pretty sure that an almond is a tree nut.
If you asked him beforehand, I'd be like, where do almonds come from? It's like, I don't know. You just pick them up off the ground.
Oh, yeah. No idea.
No idea. Yeah.
yeah and he was like yeah that would kill me i think i think your grandmother probably would have killed us if we had killed him and then almost bullied you off the internet but no you can't you can't be blamed because tj doesn't even know half of the tree nuts okay good so we were in italy i took uh like after i got my signed my big contract one of my first off season after that i said i'm gonna take my brothers on a trip so i took him him on a trip all around Europe. We were in Italy by the Pantheon and TJ ordered pesto.
I didn't know. He didn't know.
Nobody knows. Pesto has nuts in it.
Yeah. So TJ literally stops breathing.
He literally cannot breathe. And we leave.
I throw cash on the table. We sprint out.
There's a line of taxis waiting. I'm banging on a taxi's window like, take us to the hospital, take us to the hospital.
They don't speak English. english finally we get a taxi to take us to the hospital it's an italian hospital nobody speaks english they take him in a back room and won't let me come so me and derek are sitting in the waiting room of a hospital in italy for an hour straight not having any clue if tj's alive dead he wasn't breathing when he went in yeah and it was fucking crazy dude it was the scariest shit of all time and they all they did was ask him if he had an EpiPen.
And then they gave him his EpiPen. And I was like, you idiot.
We could have done that. I could have given you that.
But none of us knew. He'd never had a reaction board.
That was the first ever reaction since knowing he had. Damn.
It was crazy. I'd imagine.
Was it weird, the three Watt brothers walking around Europe? Was everyone looking at you like, who are these people? It was interesting, France was wild because the food portions are very small in Paris, very small. And so we had to order like nine of everything.
Um, but we, I mean, again, very meathead fashion, but we would do some of the coolest workouts. I mean, all three of us, we, there was this hotel that overlooked big Ben in England and we, we did workouts in big Ben.
We ran down the Champs Elysees in Paris and we were running there. We did a workout where we ran around the Coliseum.
And so like, no offense. It sounds like a shitty day.
What the fuck? It was, I mean, but then we also went to every pub in Ireland and just got absolutely hammered off. We went to the Guinness factory.
Like we, we did both. We, we played hard and we partied hard.
So wait, are you going to, are you going to go to Steelers games this year? Are you going to start being a fan again? Absolutely.

I'm a huge Steelers fan.

Are you going to go back to being a Packers fan?

No.

Okay, good.

No.

Yeah, because Aaron Rodgers, you can't do that.

Yeah, no, just for you.

I'm doing it for you.

Yeah, and we've got to focus all our energy on the Badgers.

Yes, we are pouring a lot of energy on the Badgers.

Luke Fickle's building a monster.

Looking forward to that.

But no, Steelers, absolutely.

I'm all in the Steelers.

D'Amico now with the Texans, absolutely all in. Obviously, I have a ton of guys here that I love so the Cardinals I'm watching for sure um okay fun Texans all right I I can I can support that it is funny like when we're talking about our relationship and how you know this all evolved one of the funniest things is being able to like text you whenever the Badgers are in just some shit bowl game and in like there's not many people watching and it's like we're watching yeah we're watching them play in the mayo bowl i mean they were they were in the bowl game here i was here and i didn't go did they try to get you out they're like hey no i came out i stopped out at a practice earlier in the week but i was like yeah i'm not it's at a baseball field.
Yeah, it was against Oklahoma State. There was like no one playing on either side.
The Rose Bowl is a lot cooler than this. Yeah, pretty busy that weekend.
Sorry. But we got to get you back in.
Yeah, we'll get you to, you know, some games. Oh, yeah.
I'm excited to get back in. Get everyone pumped about the whole program.
Luke Fickle building a monster. I just keep saying that until it's going to be true.
I mean, he will. We have more quarterbacks in the room now than we've had our entire history ever i don't understand i have no clue what's going on told zine not walking through that door we need a new guy i just talked to scotty for a long time the other week good name pull have you uh have you heard from cliff since he's been over to thailand so i talked to cliff right after the season i was saying thank you and all that and i appreciate you know he's i love cliff we'll be friends for life um and I said something at the end.
I was like, we got to get drinks together. And he was like, as soon as I'm done with this little world tour, I'll get drinks.
And I was like, oh, yeah. Cliff, what he's done since he got fired has been maybe the most relatable thing of all time.
Yeah. He got paid how many? Like $40, $50 million guaranteed.
And he's just like, see ya. I'm going to go over to Thailand.
I'm going to hit beaches. Yes.
That's exactly what everybody else would do. Yes.
Love it. I mean, why wouldn't you? That's the perfect thing.
Like everybody, I'm going to look for the next thing. Nah, just go do that.
Yeah, it's awesome. Football's going to be here.
So is it going to be tough to like, are you going to try to, I mean, you can't just show up to the facility next year, but like, how are you going to, are you going to try in touch? Are you going to, like, play Call of Duty with Kyler Murray or whatever? I haven't played video games. So, like, my whole career, the only time I ever played video games was when I would be injured and I needed something to take my mind off of what was going on.
So I literally don't ever play video games except for when I'm hurt. So thankfully, hopefully.
Okay, so maybe once you start smoking weed, that's to change yeah it's going to change yeah a lot less workouts a lot more call of duty yeah yeah will it be weird though like not being I would assume you'll stay in touch with everyone but yeah no it's next summer when you're not going to a facility yeah you gotta start thinking about this I've never I don't know what people do in the month of August the month of August has literally been training camp for me every single year my whole we got to get you You got to come thinking about this. I don't know what people do in the month of August.
The month of August has literally been training camp for me every single year. You got to come watch a full Sunday slate with us.
Dude, it looks like a blast. As long as I can sit next to Frank.
I just want to sit by Frank. Yeah, that's what everyone says.
And then they're like, yeah. After one game.
Frank's New Jersey Devils food reviews, they keep me going. I just nothing beats a good food review and he just dumps salt on everything.
We need to make a JJ Watt style video of just because it's so funny whenever we talk to athletes or anyone they're just like yeah I love watching Frank. He has the most fans of like celebrities and athletes of anyone at Barstool.
And somehow it comes up on my TikTok and it has like 700 likes. There's not a lot of action going on on his TikTok.
Maybe it's on his Twitter, but it pops up in mine. I watch the whole video every time, dude.
He's a natural man. Some shitty-ass brisket sandwich that he had that he was like stringy, and he's just eating it like it's regular.
This is not good. I will not eat this again.
It's the best, man. Did you see him trying to make ribs that one time no oh it's the best he's in like he's in a courtyard outside his apartment complex oh no the smoker it's not even smoker it's a grill that the temperatures at like 600 degrees or something and he puts the ribs down he's like okay now to leave it closed for about 30 minutes and then he comes back and it.
No. Yeah, he claimed the sun.
I think he said the sun was too hot on the grill. The sun was hitting the grill.
Oh, my gosh. It's an all-time Frank video.
I'm so glad that you're a Frank fan. Oh, massive Frank fan.
I'm not joking. When I talk to people that you would never expect, guys who are in the NFL, in the NBA, everywhere, they're just like, yeah, I love watching Frank.

Oh,

because it's so sincere

and real.

Yes.

You just love him

and you're like,

it's awesome.

Here we go.

Hank's got the video.

The best part is

when we tell Frank,

here we go.

Can I touch your phone, Hank?

All right.

I just want to go.

Get another

screw this.

Why fuck?

30 minutes.

All right.

This has been cooking now about 45 minutes.

It's just dumb.

He's just staring at it.

PFT's right.

When we tell him, like, we'll show him this clip, and he'll be like, okay. We'll be like, J.J.
Watts at Big Fenders. All right, cool.
Sounds good. He'll be like, yeah, you know, he kind of tailed off at the end of his career.
He'd say it to your face. Oh, yeah, I love it.
That's awesome. Like, injured too much.
No, it looks like a blast in that room. It has to smell like shit.
Oh, terrible. It has to smell like shit.
What was your career like against the Dolphins? That's a good question. I know I've had – I think I had sacks in every – That's one of the worst questions I've ever asked.
It made me think. I'll give you that, yeah, because I don't think about that a lot.
But I know I've had multiple sacks. I had two sacks in the game that they had 270 yards rushing against us and beat us 44-13.
That was after Ryan Mallett missed the team plane. So that's all I remember about that game.
He'll probably just be like, yeah, he couldn't stop the run against us. He'll just bring that up to his face.
Oh, 1,000%. Lamar Miller had like a 98-yard touchdown run.
I bet Frank remembers it. So the day Ryan Mallett missed the plane, Ryan Mallett to us is an all-time what-could-have-been guy

because his arm, how sweet was Ryan Mallett's arm?

Unbelievable.

He threw me a touchdown.

I caught a touchdown from Ryan Mallett.

It was an insane pass.

It was one of the best.

It was dropped in the bucket perfectly.

He just was too tired.

He was a sleepy guy.

Yeah, yeah.

His arm was insane.

I mean, that guy could wing the shit out of the ball.

Yeah, I remember when he was at Michigan because they were playing. I think I went to the big house and i was like what the fuck this guy's just got a cannon he's huge i mean he's tall yeah yeah he's very skinny but very tall um all right so this has been awesome we appreciate that i have uh one last question roback question promo code take i think you wear roback r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com if you don't we have some polos for you.
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This is a tough question, and I don't even want to ask it,

but I'm going to ask it because we've had a history

where we've mended our ways.

I know where this is going, I think.

Taylor and Will, how can we mend this?

They were here earlier.

I told them to scram, and they listened because they're scared of you. I think they might have worked out at Exos this morning.
Oh. My wife was up there working out.
Oh. I don't know.
I mean, I've never met Will to my knowledge. I don't know anything about Will.
I mean, I have no problems with Will, obviously. I mean, Taylor and I have had our beefs on the field.
And I mean, he literally spit on my brother. Oh, okay.
That's the part that he doesn't tell. He left that part out.
No, he said it in his tweet. He said, TJ, I've spit on you before.
I've said some things. Okay, well, I'm on your side.
Absolutely. When you spit on a family member, it gets a little different.
We never did that, just so the record shows. I tried to kill him with nuts.
So he spit on your brother and and then he stalked your wife at the gym. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm on your side. Yeah.
All right. Glad we cleared that up.
He tried, Boston. No, they are good guys.
I assume at some point it will settle down, and you can go hang out with them. Will is a very, very good guy.
I'm sad that he's not getting your 10. I think he should get your 10.
Yeah, he got screwed.

I mean, it's because of gambling.

Who are we kidding here?

Who are we kidding here?

That's a whole other conversation for another day.

He's too good at gambling.

Is he good at it? I don't know. Is he good?

No. That's what he should go with.

I'm sorry. You guys are good at it too.

Every stadium has a sports book in it.

Yeah, that's true.

You can take money. We can't taylor's a good guy too but yeah he shouldn't yeah i'm sure i bonded with him over drinking and puking in a trash can together so nice he's you know what were you drinking well what were you drinking uh it was it was actually jungle juice so it was bad it was really bad it was disgusting so but um yeah this has been awesome man we appreciate it we do you should so we're building a whole new office in chicago and we have like a big basketball court that we're gonna have in the middle of it yeah um actually you guys are both moving to chicago yeah we're all we're moving the whole operation it's kind of like your buddy's dude perfect yeah um but we'll have to have you come out because i saw a tweet that you were 50% from the line in high school basketball.

I mean, at best.

I could dunk. That rules.

I could foul.

I could dunk.

And I could rebound.

I mean, I was not doing shit else.

That's awesome.

I don't know if you think.

There was a clip going around a couple weeks ago of me playing.

And it was the first time I had seen it.

And I was like, Jesus, dude.

That is the ultimate, like, scrappy grinder sucks ass at basketball.

I think the caption was, like, J.J. Watt playing basketball is exactly what you thought of watt playing basketball is exactly yes yes yes yeah and it was to a t perfect no jump shots whatsoever so we'll get you to come up and we'll have you shoot 100 free throws oh that'll be fun yeah absolutely how many what's the over under it's got to be 50 yeah it's got to be 50 i'm gonna take the under that's i would take just pure fatigue i think i would take the under i mean I'm just going to start.
That's a shitload of free throw. You're going to be fat by then? You're not got to be 50.
I'm going to take the under. Just pure fatigue I think I would take the under.
That's a shitload of free throws. You're not going to be working out.
What if you get real fat? That would be hilarious. That would suck.
Then you'd have to move back to Wisconsin. You guys look good, by the way.
Thank you. I got the Super Bowl abs.
Can you see? The Super Bowl abs. I heard.
Yeah, there they are. Yep.
Yep. There they are.
Came in real nice. Really nice.
Photoshop that. Really nice.
Good. Wait till you, what will happen, and I will say this, that once your son eats real food, I eat all, my kids, I just eat everything they eat.
I eat it before they can even eat it. I mean, when you smoke weed and then you have kids food.
My kids will just be sitting down for dinner and they'll be like a pizza. I'll be like, you're going to eat that? And I'll eat it before they can even have a bite.
How many of the donuts do you eat every week? I usually have like two. I was going to say one and a half, but that was a lie.
That is impressive. Yeah.
Have you ever seen that meme though where it says like this many donuts are in a Coke? Yeah. Then you make you feel way better by eating a donut.
Yeah, exactly. And it's also like me and my son go and get the donuts and he loves it.
He's called being a good dad. Yeah.
And there's, there's like a whole tray of them and he goes every single time he goes and just sticks his finger into like a random donut. And I'm like, don't like pretend we didn't do that.
Scar, scurry him away. If you have a son, you just put anything on your son.
Like I'm like, we have a group chat with all my buddies and everything. And they're like, you didn't text back in eight hours.
I'm like, well, I'm sorry. I have a exactly so it's a perfect perfect fall fall guy you you basically son to fall fall guy yes yeah it was him um but yeah that would be funny if you got fat it would be funny i agree that would suck do it for like i don't want to do it for like a year you've never been i tried for 10 days i tried for 10 days but think about it like your entire life you've all you've been.
Thank you so much. We appreciate it.
And, yeah, anytime you want to come on. My pleasure.
Recurring guests. And we'll be at your Hall of Fame.
Yep. Not Hank, though.
Congrats. Yeah.
Maybe if he gets 99. Yeah, that's true.
He won't. He'll never get it.
He'll never get it. That interview with J.J.
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Okay. Guys on chicks, Superbowl edition, Superbowl week.
We have a, by the way, on, on on friday's show we're gonna have a participant in this year's super bowl on the show and also a little bit of an interesting different type of interview with uh a special extra interviewer so get excited friday show we're gonna do all of our'll do, let's just say right now, I think everyone should come loaded with like four

props.

I've got a Palooza.

I've got one.

I'm doing no props.

You're doing props.

I can't do props.

You're doing props.

You give me one prop.

Eagles to win.

Super Bowl.

Tears.

Tears.

Over in tears.

Yeah.

Okay.

How about, how about find out?

We can, we can ask the guy that we're about to interview.

Okay. Okay.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah. We'll get get to something okay yeah we'll talk about that props uh hi PMT crew I'm going to my first Super Bowl party at my boyfriend's family's house they are huge Eagles fans the only problem is that I don't know much about the Eagles and I haven't watched any of their games this year when I would go to my boyfriend's apartment on Sundays he would make fun of me because I would be napping by halftime what's something I should say about the Eagles and I haven't watched any of their games this year.
When I would go to my boyfriend's apartment on Sundays, he would make fun of me because I would be napping by halftime. What's something I should say about the Eagles to sound like I actually watched the games? In this type of scenario, I feel like you can't pretend.
They'll sniff you out immediately. It's like in Avatar when they showed up at the other Avatar's places and they're like, this human is not from amongst us.
They'll know. They'll know immediately immediately so you just have to show up and uh and be prepared to see some things that you will probably never be able to get out of your mind for the rest of your life but just know that this is this game is like international waters you can't hold anything that his family does during the super bowl against him for the rest of your dating life yes i also think this is um so super bowl everyone loves it everyone gets involved squares some people call it boxes you can do that with if you have at least 10 people and i think they probably have a party of 10 people it's very easy you're probably saying don't you need 100 100 squares 100 boxes no you get uh zero through nine put it in the hat everyone pitches.
You can go halftime and full game. And you just, so say you get the number five.
It's you adding both scores. But don't care too much about the squares.
Yes. No, I know.
But I'm saying like this is a fun way. If you maybe host the squares, because if they're not thinking about it, you can be like, hey, everyone want to throw in 20 bucks? We bucks we'll have some fun so it's very easy so if you have the number five and at halftime it is 18 to 17 the number five wins because it's eight plus seven but if the chief score and don't get a square no you you can't so that's actually a good point because this is actually a rule for squares and boxes in general.
Don't be the person rooting for that on every score. You have to – like it's more of a at the end of the quarter be like, oh, shoot, I got the number.
Don't – when it's 3-0 two minutes into the game, don't be like, oh, I hope the score stays 3-0. That's my number.
Because everybody else in the room is also betting on this too. So everyone could be having that conversation, but you're the only one choosing.
You guys are forgetting that this is a huge house of eagles. No, we get it.
I know this. I know this atmosphere.
And the squares have to be like so minimal because no. Yeah, I was saying if she doesn't like follows, she can just host it for 20.
And just be like hey everyone want to do this fun yeah no right yeah that's good right because then you've participated in the party right i don't i don't and maybe don't even like if you win just be like don't even say anything no i think your role is basically to be like an emotional support girlfriend to your boyfriend at this game because your boyfriend is going to be dealing with anxiety he's going to be dealing with like sheer explosive bouts of happiness possibly dark depression all in the same like 15 minute period so your job is basically to like see your boyfriend how they're reacting and to make sure that he doesn't do anything totally stupid just mimic what your what your boyfriend yeah just be a mirror yes maybe rub his back but mimic it to 50 yes because you don't like if he's going crazy you don't go crazy you go 50 of that yeah you just show if it's something bad's happening you show your displeasure without like really getting in your face but it's like let me let them have the moment but like it be supportive of their moment also just as a rule don't like everything you see us do on a live stream do the opposite because i'm thinking about like if i were invited to a big eagles if i had no no money on the game and i was invited to a big eagles party and like the eagles lost i would definitely be like well can't they win the game next week just to fuck with everyone don't do that don't do that do that. Do not do that.
Don't be like, well, the Super Bowl, they have these every Sunday, right? Don't do that. Specifically you because you're the worst.
Yeah. Well, because I mean, it's just that those moments when you have like extreme tension in a room, being the guy to puncture the balloon is a thrill.
But don't do that. I think you should show up and you should have a bunch of songs written anytime the Eagles screw something up and you should sing those very loudly and you should talk about what a bad gambler you are and how even when maybe the Chiefs score touch and be like, I'm never going to win my bet and make it all about you in that situation.
I think that would be a big hit. Don't do that.
Don't do that. Okay.
Hello, Big Daddy Cat, P.F t corporate henry billy mc football and always professional jake i just recently started dating this guy and i invited him to come watch the super bowl with my family he said yes of course but should i cut him some slack if he wants if he wants and goes to a super bowl party with his friends hmm i actually I actually think Super Bowl, well, Super Bowl parties are kind of not overrated, but like I don't think it's one of those ones that you have to, like, if you got invited, if you like this girl, I would go to that because at the end of the day, you're just watching the game. You know what I mean? The party aspect is really who just has the best food is kind of what you decide.
And if your team's not in it, it's not like you need to be sweating this game with your friends. It's more of a social gathering.
Right. Right.
I'm going to choose to answer this question as Billy because she did address Billy. So here's what Billy's advice.
Like, bro key, you should just bros before hoes. Yeah.
Like, it's kind of messed up. Girls think that they can invite you to their family and make you watch the super bowl with them but it's meant to be an xy chromosome game and so just hang out with boys just like get the boys together like why are women always trying to make me not be a boy that was billy football that was billy football good job great job hi hard body pmt gang congrats on the super bowl abs my husband and i have been married for four years and i'm wondering if it's normal for boys to take baths my husband has never done this before but it started to over the last couple months when i ask why he says it is for recovery these baths are not ice baths and he works a desk job yeah he also won't tell me what he does while he's in there.
He jacks off. He takes his phone and iPad and locks the door.
Wait, phone and iPad? He takes his phone and iPad. He's taking a shit and then he's jerking off.
He's jacking off in 3D. He's got two screens.
And locks the door for around 45 minutes a couple times a week. Yeah.
What is he doing in there? He's shitting, bathing, jerking off,

then maybe finishing with a shower.

Maybe all four at the same time.

That's the grand slam.

That actually, I'm going to defend him.

That is recovery.

To lock the bathroom door and just be like,

don't come fucking bother me.

I mean, you should be able to do this too.

Like, you should take your own baths.

Just go in there, lock the door. Baths are awesome, bring the electric toothbrush.
No, baths are fantastic. A good bathtub.
Okay. I agree.
If you get a big bathtub, it's a lifestyle thing. You'd instantly relax.
I'll take an ice bath, not an ice bath, but like a cold water bath sometimes if I've just done like strenuous exercise. but as far as hot baths go in like a sad small bathtub they never live up to the hype i'm also a big i'll do like i probably take like three baths a year and they're always at a hotel i don't know why i don't really like taking a bath at home why wouldn't i just shower at the hotel you get the nice tub yeah you get the bigger tub yeah yeah right i'm always in if you want if you see a giant tub like i will i will find a reason to bathe in it yes uh hi guys special shout out to big cat soon to be father of three congrats my husband listens to your show all the time you may or may not know that the 25th anniversary of the critically a film crit fuck oh critically acclaimed film titanic is happening this week First boob.
Ooh. A lot of people's first boobs.
My first boobs. You remember? Really? Yeah.
Remember that segment we used to do for like two weeks? What? Was that my first boob? Nah. It's a thousand percent my first boob.
It wasn't. It was too late for you to have that.
My first boob was Braveheart, I think. Oh, Braveheart would make sense.

That probably was right around mine, too.

That's like 10 years old, something like that.

Yeah, Braveheart.

I also remember the Eagles' first Super Bowl

that it lost to the Patriots.

I just searched Pamela Anderson boobs.

Nice.

Safe search off of Google Images.

Don't watch the documentary

because that made me feel bad

about watching that movie a lot.

Okay.

Pamela Anderson's, yeah, it kind of like ruined her life. i was like well i watched yeah you and tommy lee a lot i think a lot of people did i took down the family computer multiple times with viruses trying to get that those are my first internet boobs okay remember yeah remember when there was just one computer for the entire family yeah yeah 90s were a wild i'm watching porn on this dad's probably watching porn on this like yeah it just no it did become like the family porn hub yes exactly and i remember when we got a virus and my dad was like what happened and i'm like i have no idea it was pamela and tommy lee i think most most families when the computer got taken out with the virus nobody really chose to look too hard into it because they all thought that it could have been them yeah right so it's like oh the computer's dead again gotta get a new one i gotta get another electronic robot to jack off to yeah and then yeah and then every everyone's mom just used a computer to play solitaire yeah uh should we finish this or is that enough on this we can do what was it what was the question i don't know titanic oh yeah titanic is coming out again i also saw he got game uh with my grandmother in the room that was a that was that's awkward yeah that was awkward because that was an awesome scene there was um those were big boobs they were massive there were four of them i went i went to go see wolf of wall street on christmas day this is a few years it came out.
Went into the theater, and in the theater was like two grandchildren with their grandparents. Oh, no.
And the plane scene happened. Oh.
And the grandmother picked the son up. Grandfather picked the daughter up.
They start walking out of the theater, and the grandmother was crying that she just exposed her grandchildren to that. But again, just do a little bit of research ahead of time.
Yeah, do a tiny bit of research. Also, they're going to have to learn.
It's about a guy who went to jail. Your grandchildren are going to learn eventually about cocaine and strippers and airplanes and dwarf tossing.
Yeah. It happens.
It's part of life. Yeah.
Wait, what was the question, though, about Titanic? She basically just got tickets to Titanic on Super Bowl Sunday. No.
Yeah, not going to happen. Not going to happen.
Just light them on fire. What the fuck? Yeah, that's on you.
I'm embarrassed that you wrote into our podcast. Super Bowl Sunday, it's not just because it's Super Bowl Sunday, which is obviously a very big deal, but it's also the funeral for the football season.
It's the last chance to watch football. It is.
So it's a sad day. It's a morning day.
Monday after Super Bowl is always just one of the most depressing days. We're like, we're as far away from football as we can be.
Now, that's when me and Big Cat's bodies usually start to give out on us. It's right after the season.
We start to do stupid stuff. That's where we got arrested at the dog show.
Yep. Like, first week back because we don't know what to do with ourselves.
Well, thankfully, we've grown up a little bit and we realized, hey, we could take vacations. That's true.
Like, that is a nice twist that we've put into our brains where it's like, we do deserve maybe, we're taking three days off. Yeah, credit to Hank for showing us the way on that.
Yeah, Hank's taking three months off. What's up, Potato Chip Cat, Beef FT, Billion Pig Skinneth,eth and honk my boyfriend insists on muting the commercials on every sports game we watch and often muting commentary because he doesn't need to hear extra noise we're hosting a super bowl party this year and he's been a big muter recently does he have grounds as the host to mute at his discretion otherwise how pissed do you think our guests will be? Yeah, he can't do that.
You can't do that. He can't mute the commercials.
You can't do that. I respect the move, though.
That's a big-time grandfather move. My grandfather was elite at muting commercials.
He'd hit it before the commercial would come on, and then he'd take it off right as it came off going back. We would watch Braves games, and immediately, boom, mute going into it.
That's an old-person move old person move i think i'm not gonna let these advertisers get in my head no but you can't mute the super bowl he also said muting some of the commentary sometimes that's romo yeah okay yeah yeah he probably hates romo so shout out him for that i do like some of my our gym family does like to do the dvr pause the game a little bit and then then sync up to the radio. I like that.
I like that. That's old school.
That's an old school. You get the local broadcast.
My family's big into radio. A former player that's kind of drunk on the air.
You get them doing the commentary. I like that.
Yeah. That's it.
Okay. Oh, there's one more.
Memes, you got one more? Okay. Wait.
Memes just texted to me this is for this one's actually for big cat oh okay uh dear dear dan cat has hank ever gotten the lottery ball correct he has not we'll find out because we taped it we'll find out if he gets it he has not gotten it right he's not here right now i would i did have someone ask me at the gym if he has ever gotten it. That makes me chuckle every time.
Yeah. Because it's just like even though Hank wasn't there with me, I know that he feels it.
That's wild timing that somebody said that to you at the gym. At the gym.
It was right between reps. But you had to make sure that you let people know when you said it to you.
Full story, it kind of sucks because I was benching and he came up and asked if I needed a spot and I felt like a little bitch

and I was like no I'm good dude

I'm good like I'll die on this bench

congrats on the benching thank you but it like

it was kind of presumptuous of him to ask if I

needed a spot and then he followed

up with the question but asking

another man if they need a spot

I don't think I was struggling with it's emasculating

it was it really hurt my feelings

was on the bar like 185

I was doing it fine I was

not struggling yeah I was not

Thank you. He wanted to talk to me, but that's not.
It hurt my feelings. You got to find a better opportunity to that.
Like in between sets. Be like, how many more sets you got? Yeah, right.
Oh, and by the way, has Hank ever gotten the lottery ball correct? He's listening to this right now, and I hope you know guy i i we we had a nice conversation afterwards you seem like a nice guy but i hate your guts if anybody ever offers to spot me at the gym i'll kill you yeah i yes i will kill you yeah so don't even try it yeah all right so let's kick it to ourselves in studio to see if hank is going to win the lottery ball machine which he never Okay, end of the show. It's still February 3rd.
We're still guessing all these numbers. Hank has still not gotten it.
Hank, have you gotten it, actually? What? The number. Lottery ball machine? Yeah.
Okay. Numbers.
69. 69.
18. I beat you on that one.
17. I did beat you on that one.
23. 20.
But I beat you on that one. You saw 69 in the top.
But I beat you on that one. I beat you on that one.
17. I did beat you on that one.
23. 20.
But I beat you on that one. You saw 69.
But I beat you on that one. I beat you on that one.
So what's your number? You saw that it almost hit last time. 96.
96. Sorry, what was your number? 17.
Oh. Interesting.
Wait, what did I say? Say it again. 23.
I said 23. Nine.

Nine.

Third time.

Nine.

Love you guys.

Dragons aren't actually real.

We don't have to wear it. Thank you.
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