JJ Watt, Lebron Breaks Kareem’s Record, Max Is Going To The Super Bowl + Guys On Chicks

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, our good friend JJ Watt

Speaker 1 in studio, in our C4 studio studio in Arizona, Super Bowl day two.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk a little more Super Bowl. We're taping this early in the day, so we're also going to talk about LeBron James breaking the record.
So congratulations to him.

Speaker 1 That won't backfire whatsoever. We have Hot Seat Cool Throne.
We have Guys on Chicks Super Bowl Etiquette Edition. Great show coming.

Speaker 1 I actually want to say this JJ Watt interview, it feels like the fight, because the first one I thought we did okay, but we probably hyped it too much. I'm ready to hype this one.

Speaker 1 I thought it was very, very good. I thought it was good, too.

Speaker 3 Yes, we started to say last week, like, you can't tell the story of JJ Watt without part of my take. I actually don't think that you can tell the story of part of my take without JJ Watt.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Agreed.
So it's a, yeah, it's a mutually beneficial relationship that has spawned, and Hank still hates him.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Wednesday, February 8th.
Are you okay, Hank? I'm great.

Speaker 6 I'm fantastic. The C4 couch is comfortable as can be.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're really sitting in it well. And congratulations to LeBron James for breaking the all-time scoring record.

Speaker 3 Great job, LeBron. I'm happy for you.
You know, LeBron, he's had quite a week. He goes from the ups to the downs.
He's going to break Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's all-time record.

Speaker 3 That's impressive. Like, great job.
You know, kind of a ball hog, but that's fine. You are a stat compiler.
You're the greatest stat compiler of all time.

Speaker 3 But he would trade it all to be able to go to Starbucks and get his name written on the cup and go shop at Target. At first, I was like, man, LeBron,

Speaker 3 you don't own anything in your house that's purchased at Target. But then I thought more about it, and I was like, I bet he does, actually.

Speaker 1 Oh, he definitely is a buy the weird

Speaker 1 pictures and sayings guy.

Speaker 3 Yes. Oh, he's got...
Home is where the heart is. Yeah, home is the wine sayings, like Hakuna Moscato.
Yeah, yeah. Everything happens for a reason.

Speaker 1 It's five o'clock somewhere.

Speaker 3 Or it's wine o'clock.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, no.

Speaker 3 And he's probably got like a Scarface poster somewhere. He's got the kiss.
He's got the Pink Floyd album.

Speaker 1 It was just very funny to be like, to see LeBron say, I just wish I could go to Starbucks and get my name written on the cup yeah you can go the drive-through it is write your name on it on the drive-thru lebron it actually is one of those weird things where lebron's saying that i i i understand what he's saying but it's it's i think it was maybe brady a few years ago when he's like yeah it's really tough you know to be a parent and try to figure out how to raise your kids when they have so much

Speaker 1 fair fair thing to say no one wants to hear it yeah like fair thing for lebron to say because i bet you when you become that insanely famous there is a part of you that's like i really wish i could just walk down the street and just be a regular dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but again, no one wants to hear it because everyone would trade lives with well, that's what Michael Jackson did.

Speaker 3 So Michael Jackson was so famous and so unique looking that he couldn't go anywhere. He actually rented out and changed his whole face.

Speaker 3 The entire no, well, that was, I mean, that might have been part of it at first, and then things got out of hand, but he rented out an entire supermarket and he paid people to be actors to pretend like they were shopping the supermarket so he could be able to go out and shop for whatever weird stuff that he buys.

Speaker 3 He just did a Nathan Fielder show.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 He He did the simulation or what's it called? The rehearsal? Yeah, the rehearsal. He did the rehearsal for himself.

Speaker 1 But yeah, LeBron, so we are taping this early, so maybe he didn't break it.

Speaker 1 He didn't. He didn't.
I don't think so. You don't think so? No.

Speaker 1 He didn't do that at home. They're at home tonight.

Speaker 1 Next point. I don't think he's going to break it.
He's going to do it.

Speaker 1 The only thing you can say is if LeBron is a true historian of the game, he would wait to break it against the Bucks, the only other team the Kareem played for.

Speaker 1 So Lakers' Bucks playing on Thursday night, maybe he does that. Who knows? Either way, if he does break it, I'm not going to be a hater about it.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be like it's just an attendance record because that's what it is. He just played a ton of seasons, didn't go to college, which is not something we should look up to.

Speaker 6 The three-point line didn't exist for Kareem for like half his year.

Speaker 1 And it's, I mean, he does have the most points per game, LeBron, so that's... Wait, no, he doesn't.
No, MJ still has the most points per game. But either way.

Speaker 3 Well, if LeBron hadn't played in all the... Are we counting playoff games as all-time points record? I don't think it does.
It doesn't?

Speaker 1 Okay, well, then that completely submarines my my take on him i did do a little research trying to just being ready for this moment because it is an incredible moment lebron is an all-time player uh

Speaker 1 he's very good at basketball i think we can all agree on that but i i did kind of uh arm myself with some stats he's actually more he's closer to james harden than mj in terms of points per game what about his his efficiency rate uh i don't know what his p r is

Speaker 3 what

Speaker 1 his p r plus stinks the the craziest thing i was looking so I was looking through the points per game. I asked you this trivia question earlier, PFT.
Hank, were you in the room?

Speaker 1 Because I can ask you now.

Speaker 3 You didn't ask me a trivia question earlier.

Speaker 1 Well, you were standing there when we were talking about it. There's nine guys right now who are current active players in the top 30 all-time points per game.

Speaker 1 Kind of tells you what the era we're playing in. And one name is just insane that you would never guess.

Speaker 1 I think you were there. So it's KD LeBron, Dame, James Harden, Steph, Deli, A.D., Devin Booker, Kyrie, and then one last name.
Can anyone guess it?

Speaker 3 I can.

Speaker 1 Well, you heard it.

Speaker 1 It's Carl Anthony Towns, which shocked me when I saw that. I was like, huh, he is.
He's top 30. He's turned the corner.
Yeah. He's turned the corner.
That's wild. Yeah, that is a wild stat, is it not?

Speaker 3 It is kind of crazy, though, to think about LeBron how

Speaker 3 since 2003, the NBA has been LeBron James. That's such a long time.

Speaker 3 Like, those are so many different eras that he's overlapped since he got into the league, and the league has just been focused on him that entire time. It's honestly impressive.

Speaker 3 Some would say it's a little look at me selfish. Not me.
Some would also say like, hey, LeBron, you've definitely been using performance enhancing drugs.

Speaker 3 I would not say that about him, but a lot of people have said it. I think that we should hear them out.

Speaker 1 Here's something nice I'm going to say about LeBron. I think there has never been a case

Speaker 1 where he exceeded the hype. Because he was expected to be this player coming out of high school, you know, the televised high school games, and he somehow was better than that.

Speaker 1 Because, you know, there's been many times in sports where you see a player or a prospect, you're like, he's going to be the next guy, and he might even have a good career.

Speaker 1 Doesn't have a career like LeBron James. It's pretty insane to think about like

Speaker 1 the, the, the general media called their shot. Oh, and they were right.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we actually, we should get credit in the media because

Speaker 3 we were so right about LeBron James.

Speaker 3 Guess what? I'm calling it right now. Wimbignana is going to be great.
Yeah. He's going to be, he's going to even be better than LeBron at his peaks.

Speaker 1 Yes. And yeah, actually, when you think about it, LeBron,

Speaker 1 he actually had kind of an average career when you put it into perspective. We all expected him to be great.
He wasn't the like, he should have been averaging 50 points.

Speaker 1 If he averaged 50 points a game, then we could be like, hand up, we were wrong. You were that much better than we expected.

Speaker 3 We kind of expected this. I personally expected LeBron to surpass Michael Jordan's championship numbers.

Speaker 1 He didn't do it.

Speaker 3 Well, he did. He surpassed his finals appearances, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, appearances. So losses.

Speaker 3 And losses. Yeah.
He has more. The all-time.

Speaker 1 Is he the all-is he four and six? No.

Speaker 3 Is he four and six no is is LeBron James the all-time NBA Finals losses leader

Speaker 1 No, wouldn't that be um it had it would have to be like Wilter Jerry West maybe Jerry West

Speaker 1 Jerry West

Speaker 3 everything yeah he lost literally everything I want LeBron to stick around and make more finals so he can be the biggest biggest finals loser of all time now tonight of all nights you should have Skip Bayless.

Speaker 1 It's great if he doesn't baby because he passed the record but I'm just I'm letting you guys know right now.

Speaker 3 He turned on Skip Bayless tweet notifications because he's got something loaded.

Speaker 3 I don't know what his angle is going to be. He's going to pretend to be gracious and there's going to be something that's like very slightly deprecating in there towards LeBron James.

Speaker 3 I'm just excited as a student of his game.

Speaker 3 He's three and a half and six.

Speaker 1 This is going to be great because what is he?

Speaker 3 Three and a half and six? Three and a half and six, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, three and six because Kyrie carried him in 2016. Two and a half and six.
Two and a half and six.

Speaker 1 Well, and also he had Bosch and Wade. And it was the baby thunder.

Speaker 6 Stimulus pack. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Tim Duncan was old.

Speaker 3 Didn't he get swept once?

Speaker 1 He did get swept by the Spurs.

Speaker 3 That should count as two. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He lost.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is the difference between Pardon My Take and every other podcast.

Speaker 1 I always think, like, I think most, there probably won't be like a ton of new listeners for JJ Watt because we've had him on before.

Speaker 1 But for any of the new listeners listening to the start of the show, they're like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? LeBron scored 20 points against the Thunder. He's still 16 away.

Speaker 1 And then the even better part is if he falls short

Speaker 1 tonight on Tuesday night, we're not even going to mention it on Friday's show. And people be like, you don't even mention it.
Like, go listen to Tuesday's show, bro.

Speaker 3 We gave him his flowers.

Speaker 1 We already did this.

Speaker 1 He wants to do it again.

Speaker 3 We're first reporting that LeBron James has broken the record. So

Speaker 3 he's not going to credit us if he doesn't.

Speaker 3 Now, if he doesn't do it, wow, what a colossal disappointment that would be to be within striking range at home in front of the home crowd and not breaking that record.

Speaker 1 I did. So I bet.

Speaker 3 You really put an asterisk on the entire deal.

Speaker 1 I bet it's over 32 and a half points tonight. And I didn't, I just did it.

Speaker 1 I woke up and I bet it, and then I realized the Bucs angle that I mentioned, that he would be playing against the only other team Kareem played for, the guy he's passing.

Speaker 1 And also, is there like a sadder team that you could break an all-time record against than the Thunder?

Speaker 1 That's a real tough one.

Speaker 3 Probably the Wizards.

Speaker 1 Maybe the Kings. The Kings are good, though.

Speaker 3 The Kings are good right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 No, that's pretty up there.

Speaker 1 It's pretty up there. It really hit it against the Thunder.

Speaker 3 It really dulls the significance of the entire operation, I think, to break it against the thunder. He'll probably do it tonight, and they'll probably stop the game.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 And LeBron, do you think he's going to take the mic and thank everybody?

Speaker 1 I hope he writes a letter to his younger self. Yeah, those are always fun.

Speaker 3 Well, it's really a letter from his younger self to his future self, but he's writing it as his future self.

Speaker 1 Yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 This is big LeBron cosplaying as young LeBron, thanking future LeBron.

Speaker 1 You mentioned Skip Bayless, and we got to give him a shout out because he did the impossible. He criticized LeBron for not demanding a trade for Kyrie straight up.

Speaker 1 So that trade was never on the table. So he was like, LeBron's best chance of winning a ring this year would be with Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 He should have demanded a trade for Kyrie straight up. That trade never happened or never was even discussed.
Not only is that trade not discussed, LeBron can't be traded.

Speaker 1 And I'm not saying like he can't be traded because he's LeBron. He contractually cannot be traded.

Speaker 3 Does he have a no-trade clause?

Speaker 1 No, he signed. He can wave.
He signed signed his two-year extension in August, and you can't trade him for six months in the NBA bylaws.

Speaker 1 So Skip had a whole hypothetical that contractually cannot take place.

Speaker 1 It's a tough moment for our players.

Speaker 3 If you're LeBron, you can probably

Speaker 1 put those laws.

Speaker 3 You can actually do the trade. What would happen if LeBron, I know he can't be traded, if he just showed up in Brooklyn, put on a Nets uniform and tried to play and let him play?

Speaker 3 Are they going to stop him? Are you going to stop LeBron James?

Speaker 1 I remember it was a big deal because it was, he signed it.

Speaker 1 It's like a six-month rule, and he could have signed it earlier in the summer, and he signed it later in the summer, and then it became clear that he couldn't get, like, the trade deadline would pass before he could get traded.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 3 could he trade the future rights to drafting his son?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that might be, that might be the thunder. Remember when he was talking about Sam Presti?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would love it if LeBron James' son got into the NBA and just swatted the shit out of his dad.

Speaker 1 That would be cool. That would rule.

Speaker 1 Okay, so what what else we got? And that's the leading story, LeBron not passing Kareem's record.

Speaker 1 That's the thunder, even though we started the whole show about it.

Speaker 3 There was Media Night. Media Night happened on Monday.
Wow, the pageantry, the magic, the entertaining questions. It truly has it all.

Speaker 1 Did you hear? So our friend, friend of the program, Dave Damashek, asked a great question to Nick Siriani. He asked him if the Super Bowl is a must-win.
Yeah. And I agree.

Speaker 1 It is a must-win because I was thinking about it. He should have maybe asked, is it a must-win, can't lose? I think it's a must-win.
I disagree. You think it's a can't-lose?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a can't lose.

Speaker 3 Because if you lose, then what? Yeah. But if you win, it's like, okay, it's a must-win.
Okay, we just checked off something. Good job.
Okay, you might be right. Moving on.
I think it's a can't-lose.

Speaker 3 You can't lose. If you're Nick Siriani, you lose the Super Bowl, you're going to be known as Super Bowl-losing head coach.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can't lose that game.

Speaker 3 You cannot lose that game if you're Nick Siriani.

Speaker 1 And if you, yeah, you, I mean, you want to win it, but it's not a must-win.

Speaker 3 What happens if you, if, if you lose a must-win?

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 3 Then you get another crack at a must-win later. Then your next Super Bowl becomes a must or win.

Speaker 1 But he will get another crack at it.

Speaker 3 We think.

Speaker 1 You think if they lose the Super Bowl, they fire Nick Siriani?

Speaker 3 No, but

Speaker 3 he might, he lost a must-win. You can't have a coach around that loses must-wins.
Right.

Speaker 1 Losing a can't-lose, though, is pretty bad.

Speaker 3 If you lose a can't-lose, then he resigns.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have to just fall on the sword. Literally.
Yes. Like, kill yourself.
Yes, right. Yes.
Japanese.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 If you have any honor nick siriani will commit seppuku get my sword get my sword yeah unsheathe it the lombardi trophy the loser should have to impale themselves with it i would see jason kelcey would definitely be the the sword unsheather yeah he would he would be the designated sword guy he seems like jason kelcey's an all-time like costume guy he can wear any costume and it would look incredible i think if he wore like either the executioner's hood or if he put on like a priest robe and gave him his last rites oh i think that would look look awesome big baggy pants yeah huge baggy pants for some reason cool yeah giant weird baggy pants yeah did you know jason kelcey plays the uh saxophone no i did not yeah so i saw a video got me pumped up he was like the philadelphia orchestra he was playing the saxophone they were doing fly eagles fly and it was just an awesome like philadelphia moment where all these people at the symphony and they're just singing the song and chanting eagles yeah jason kelcey might be the most interesting guy in football you could tell me any any fact about him, and I would believe it because he seems like a worldly guy with lots of different pursuits.

Speaker 3 He also said, I know it's Travis Kelsey, I think. They asked him about the key to preserving his body and to making sure he's always in good football shape.
He said, naps.

Speaker 3 He naps like three times a day, takes like 30, 45 minute naps. I might have to start dipping my toe into the nap game.

Speaker 1 Dude, that's, I mean, whenever you read a story about someone who lives forever, who lives to like 115, it's never the dude that's at the gym.

Speaker 1 It's like a 5-2 person from Italy who just takes naps, drinks wine, and eats pasta with like fresh olive oil every day.

Speaker 3 Yeah, or like a grandmother who's like, well, I've smoked the same brand of cigarettes for 60 years.

Speaker 1 It's the no-stress people. It has nothing to do with physical fitness.
It's all about stress.

Speaker 1 If you just have no stress, you'll live forever. And it's always those people.
So maybe that is. The naps.

Speaker 3 We can live forever. I'm going to get into the nap game.
I used to call them just blacking out, but I feel like, you know, now that I'm in my late 30s, I'll just call them naps.

Speaker 1 Dude, rebrand. I am elite at the nap game.
I'm like, the dad nap is a true thing where if I lay down, like I'll even be like, it'll be the middle of the day and my kids will be playing.

Speaker 1 If I lay down, lay down flat, 10-minute nap, no problem. Instantly, instantly.

Speaker 1 I could have a cup of coffee in my hand, 10-minute nap.

Speaker 3 I'm already geared up for the master's nap this year. Yeah.
I've got my spot on the couch picked out. No one's touching that thing.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Gonna be sick. I've done some reps.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 3 you gotta get your reps in beforehand. You don't want to hurt yourself, pull muscle napping, which is something that I've actually done, is injure yourself sleeping.

Speaker 3 That's when I knew, like, it's time to hang it up. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Just on any aspirations of being physically fit. You wake up in the morning and you've got a pulled hamstring.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've had the ankle. Yes, I wake up with the ankle.

Speaker 1 Did I run in my sleep?

Speaker 1 A way to take your master's nap to the elite level for everyone out there, crack a window. Crack a window, get some air.
Wake up. It's a little cold.

Speaker 1 It's like like maybe 4 30 in the afternoon it's a little cold you missed probably i don't know seven holes yeah and it's just that's that's spring air oh i'm going on a little vacay after the super bowl i've already planned to shut the up

Speaker 3 I've planned to uh abscond from the hotel with one of their robes that I will be wearing for my master's now. I've got it all set up.
That's how you also take it.

Speaker 3 Like getting into full relaxation mode requires a robe. Yes, yes.
There was another story about the Rocky statue in Philadelphia. This might have been from the same interview with the Kelseys.

Speaker 3 It turns out that every team, every fan of every team that's put on opposing jerseys on the Rocky statue over the last like five years going back to the Super Bowl against the Patriots back in 20, was it 18?

Speaker 3 17.

Speaker 1 2018. 17 season.

Speaker 3 17 and 2018. Every time that's happened.
That team has lost. So if you're a Chiefs fan, don't go to the Rocky statue and get it dressed up because that's the best.

Speaker 3 Rocco will have his vengeance.

Speaker 1 I'm going to need an Eagles fan to please go and put a jersey on them.

Speaker 3 Well, false flag operations.

Speaker 1 I will pay for someone. I'll pay for the jersey.
Operation Northwood. If someone hit me up, I will do that.

Speaker 1 I did get a little triggered with Super Bowl Media Night because I saw Matt Nagy getting interviewed. So that triggered me.

Speaker 1 And someone was asking about Justin Fields, and I was like watching the video being like, stop talking about him. He's not yours.
You tried to ruin him. Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 3 Matt Nagy's next up, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's next up.

Speaker 1 It was a very pathetic moment. I was sitting in my car watching this video being just like, shut the fuck up, dude.
He was like, Justin Fields is wired correctly. Like, the guy works so hard.

Speaker 1 I'm like, shut the fuck up. And Matt Negie's not your quarterback.

Speaker 3 He's definitely going to take credit for laying the groundwork of Justin Fields. Like, you know, when he got to the NFL, his...
His fundamentals were all askew.

Speaker 3 I had to sit down and work real hard with him. It's good to see that some of the lessons that we went through together are starting to take hold.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And he's ready to now build off of that and take the the next step.

Speaker 1 It was one of those moments as sports fans where you just have to take a step back and be like, dude, are you really letting this bother you? And the answer is yes.

Speaker 1 I was bothered that he was talking about the words Justin Fields coming out of his mouth bothered me. And that makes me a very small person.
And that's fine. I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 So as long as you admit your faults, you can just have them.

Speaker 3 Like Woods taught us. But also, at the same time, if you're Matt Nagy, this is what you have to do.
Yeah. You have to take credit.
That's what we do, actually, all the time.

Speaker 1 we took credit for, we're taking credit for J.J. Watts' career.

Speaker 3 His entire career.

Speaker 3 We're taking credit for changes of personality. We're taking credit for LeBron James passing Kareem Abdul-Jabbar because we said in 2003 he was going to be good at basketball.
Right. We all agree.

Speaker 3 So like, I understand what Matt Nagy's doing, but at the same time, when somebody does it in a way that irritates you, you just want to rip the thread.

Speaker 1 I just don't want him to talk about him because I also feel the superstitions. Like if he talks about him, it's just

Speaker 1 the stink is going to be there. I don't want him to talk about him.
He's a vibe. Yeah, we had Super Bowl Media Night.
We'll do all of our prop bets on Friday's show.

Speaker 1 Full preview of it.

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Speaker 1 Let's do hot seat cool throne. By the way, this whole show is brought to you by C4, C4 Takeover.
Hank, why don't you start with your hot seat cool throne?

Speaker 6 My hot seat is Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.

Speaker 6 Trent Doper went somewhere. I don't know what he was on talking.
I think it was something to do with the Ravens documentary that came out.

Speaker 1 Oh, is that? I want to watch that. Yeah.
Is it out?

Speaker 6 It's out.

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yes.

Speaker 3 I think it's the Ray Lewis thing.

Speaker 6 He was talking about Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. And he said, you know, when I talk about great quarterbacks, I think about Joe Montana and Steve Young.

Speaker 6 Because of the way the game has changed, I don't think Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are impressive.

Speaker 3 Not that impressive.

Speaker 3 I love Trent Dilfer because he only exists to be the butt of the joke when somebody's like, well, you don't need a great quarterback to an assumption. Look at Trent Dilfer.

Speaker 6 There was some great, and then obviously people online were posting old highlights of his where he was just missing wide open receivers. Tom Curran, a Patriots writer, had this stat.

Speaker 6 From 2001 through 2007, Dilfer had 29 starts, 31 touchdowns, 38 picks. He'd been in the league seven years when Brady made his first start.

Speaker 6 Brady had 197 touchdowns and 86 picks and 110 starts over the same span.

Speaker 6 So that's when Trent Dilfer was playing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There was that status.

Speaker 6 He was so much more impressive.

Speaker 1 We brought it up earlier in the season.

Speaker 1 I can't remember what team we were talking about, but the Ravens, that Ravens Super Bowl team, I think they had like a six-week, seven-week stretch where they didn't score an offensive touchdown and they went like four and two.

Speaker 1 It was something crazy like that. That's how good their defense was.
But yeah, how bad Trent Dilfer was. An idiot.
Yeah, that's a weird.

Speaker 1 I don't really understand.

Speaker 1 I get the Aaron Rodgers part. He's overrated, but like, how could you?

Speaker 1 How could you say those guys are bad quarterbacks?

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's impressive. It is.
Every quarterback for as long as he has been has been impressive.

Speaker 1 Take I didn't see coming.

Speaker 3 So I'm going to do something a little bit out of character for myself, and I'm going to try to wrap full context around what Trent Dilfer said. Okay.

Speaker 3 Because he was talking about quarterbacks of like the 90s, guys like Troy Aikman, Steve Young, to a certain extent, Joe Montana, where the pockets and the receivers weren't as quarterback friendly.

Speaker 3 So like the rules on D. You know what? I'm done with the card.
Trent Dilfer said that he's better than Tom Brady. Fuck Trent Dilfer.
I don't want to get in the context.

Speaker 3 This is one of those takes that's best absorbed without the true context of it because we all need to be able to get our jokes off about Trent Dilpher. Yeah.

Speaker 3 he's a coach at UAB.

Speaker 1 Is he? Yeah, he got hired as a coach of UAB.

Speaker 1 And then your cool throne?

Speaker 6 My cool throne is mini golf today. Okay.
Mini golf. Jake's been there since I think 6.30 this morning.
That's why he's not here right now.

Speaker 6 I'm heading here right after this hot seat cool throne session. If you enjoyed the bowling live stream, this is going to be something similar.

Speaker 1 So how are we feeling technology-wise? I'm going to the rehearsal.

Speaker 6 We've never done a live stream mini golf.

Speaker 1 Are you going to go practice mini golf?

Speaker 6 That's interesting. I'm not playing.
I'm just helping, you know, make it happen.

Speaker 3 That's interesting.

Speaker 6 I'm stressed.

Speaker 1 It would be a shame.

Speaker 6 It would be a shame.

Speaker 1 Hank, do you think it was great? It would be a shame.

Speaker 6 But I think it's going to be great. I'm excited.
I'm excited for the course. I think it's a much better course.
I think, obviously.

Speaker 3 Hank is so stressed that at 10 o'clock this morning, going down to the car, he was smoking the biggest joint in the world.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Getting ready.

Speaker 1 It would be a shame. And also, if you want to watch it, PFT, myself, Caleb, Jeff D.
Lowe, that's our foursome, and we will be live from the Part of My Take Instagram.

Speaker 6 We'll be live on the Part of My Take Instagram. The broadcast will be live on the Parcel Sports YouTube.
So, if you want to, obviously, the YouTube will be bouncing around from all the players.

Speaker 6 So, if you want to watch everyone, watch that. If you want to just watch Big Cat and PFT, go to the Part of My Take Instagram.

Speaker 1 I love it. Let's hope it all works.

Speaker 3 Nothing better than Part Twitter. It's going to work.

Speaker 1 It's going to be great.

Speaker 6 Everyone's going to tune in.

Speaker 1 And it would be a shame if it wasn't that.

Speaker 6 PFT is a dark horse. Big Cat, I think, is going to not try.
And PFT might be.

Speaker 1 I tried hard in the first one. I finished like third.

Speaker 1 finished second okay but what i didn't try no i mean i'm we'll see there is there's a lot of okay yeah all right now you know what i hope it breaks i hope the whole thing breaks and it never gets progress yes that's what you already used already

Speaker 1 no what did i say it would be a shame you literally said the other day you're going to go to the truck and unplug it when you get there so yeah i might

Speaker 1 yeah i might have said that yeah all right i might have said that i might have said that All right, you're rooting against me. I'm gonna try.
I don't like I'm not a good golfer. I'm gonna try.

Speaker 3 I don't like having Hank over my shoulder.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna try. All right,

Speaker 1 how about I leave then? All right, okay. You gotta go.

Speaker 1 Go make sure that everything's correct and ready to go

Speaker 1 so that we don't have a shame.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, it's gonna be great. Everyone, tune in.

Speaker 7 Jake this morning

Speaker 6 was like, well, the Instagram Live, if things are going south, our Instagram Live will be up and you'll be having the time of your life.

Speaker 1 What if Instagram goes down? Because I'll be freaking out.

Speaker 6 Then the whole world's probably going to end at that point.

Speaker 1 And, you know, praise God. Cool.
Enjoy.

Speaker 7 Drink some C.

Speaker 3 Be a real shame if LeBron James didn't get the scoring time before the world ended.

Speaker 1 I really would.

Speaker 6 All right. Love you guys.

Speaker 3 Okay. You don't say that.

Speaker 1 You don't mean that.

Speaker 3 It's like. No, you don't.

Speaker 1 You don't love anybody. All right, PFT, your hot seat, cool, Toronto.

Speaker 3 My hot seat is Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 Russell Wilson's on the hot seat because Sean Payton did one of his first interviews while he was getting, you know, he was getting asked questions about being the Dead Vibranos head coach, and they asked about Russell Wilson's personal coaching staff and training team if they're going to be welcome.

Speaker 3 I think they're called like Team Three

Speaker 3 after Russell Wilson's or SEAL Team Three, basically.

Speaker 1 Of course.

Speaker 3 And Sean Payton was like, I don't know what kind of arrangements we had before that, but around here, that's not going to be the case.

Speaker 3 I don't participate in any outside coaching. I like that.

Speaker 1 I also had an epiphany.

Speaker 1 The Broncos' colors might be the best colors for coach hirings because they all put on that orange tie and it looks cool. Because I was like, wow, Sean Payton looks cool.

Speaker 1 I'm like, wait, I thought Nathaniel Hackett looked cool too. And so did Vic Fangio.
Something about the Broncos, like that orange kind of pops on a tie. It's a little youthful.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I would say that if the Seahawks hired somebody, they could have a cool look.

Speaker 1 But you can't go neon in that.

Speaker 3 Vikings, you can go the yellow tie. It looks stately a little bit.
Yeah, the yellow tie.

Speaker 1 I just, I like the orange tie. So good for you, Broncos.

Speaker 3 Orange tie is good. I think that Sean Payne's just telling on himself for not being unlimited.
It sounds like he's not buying into the unlimited lifestyle.

Speaker 3 And I don't know that you can be a successful head coach if you set limitations on yourself.

Speaker 1 There's also a hundred percent chance that Russell Wilson just still brings his staff, like Jameis putting on his uniform when he was suspended at Florida State, being like, what? Yeah, no,

Speaker 3 I don't understand. He'll just have them change their names and have them get hired as janitors around the building.

Speaker 1 Be on the practice squad. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So Sean Payton is going, he's going to have his work cut out for him. He's trying to shees all that, Russell Wilson, take his glasses off, let his hair down.

Speaker 1 This is a good first step, though.

Speaker 1 And I really do mean this. Like, you need.

Speaker 1 Sean Payton, and this is a reality of how the NFL works, is going to be there longer than Russell Wilson. He will be the coach because

Speaker 1 there's no scenario where Russell Wilson outlives Sean Payton in Denver. Because if Russell Wilson is really good, Sean Payton will stay there for a decade plus.

Speaker 1 If Russell Wilson's really bad, Sean Payton's going to go find the next quarterback.

Speaker 1 So he should make the rules and he should be the guy who's like, this is what's going to happen here because I'm going to be here long past you.

Speaker 3 Well, Sean Payton also can lay the gauntlet down right now and then slowly take it away as progress. Ping pawn table.
But you can't, exactly.

Speaker 3 Listen, Russ, if you win six games for us in our first eight, you can bring your astrologist in as a treat.

Speaker 3 But you can't start out by saying, yeah, you can bring in his whole staff and then ban them because then that becomes an issue.

Speaker 3 It becomes personal. He's laying down the groundwork a little bit.

Speaker 1 It is very funny, too, that Russell Wilson had a whole staff. Like when we made a big deal about the Tom Brady Bill Belichick, it's like they were already like four or five rings in.

Speaker 1 Like Tom Brady got to have Alex Guerrero in the building.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Russell Wilson won one Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 One Super Bowl with his defense.

Speaker 3 And so what happened? Who's the worst quarterback in the NFL that has their own guys that they rely on?

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 3 I could see.

Speaker 1 I was going to say Sam Darnold, but Sam Darnold just has like one of his college buddies on his Instagram.

Speaker 3 I was going to say Kyle Trask, but it's probably just his weed dealer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Might be Russ. It might be Russ right now.

Speaker 3 Russ might be the, yeah, yeah. He is probably the worst quarterback that has his team.
Yes. Yes.
My cool throne is Greg Olson.

Speaker 3 So Brady went on He Who Shall Not Be Named show the other day, fake soup guy, and said that he's not going to step into the booth broadcasting until 2024.

Speaker 3 So that means that Greg Olson has an entire another year at Fox. Now, I do think that there's a good chance that Tom Brady spends the next year

Speaker 3 just straight up practicing calling games, like playing games, excuse me, with the sound off and him doing his analysis. In fact, I brought that up to Jake yesterday.

Speaker 3 I was like, this seems like a good thing for Greg Olson because if he has another great year, they're going to continue to give them something to think about with the Tom Brady situation.

Speaker 3 But Jake was saying that he used to play YouTube games with the mute button on, and he would do play-by-play to nobody, which is perfect. Of course.

Speaker 3 Tom Brady's going to need somebody like that to train with. I would like to offer Jake up.
Yes. If Tom Brady needs a play-by-play guy to bounce off of, Jake will watch YouTube games.

Speaker 3 You can pick anything up, like any game over the last 10 years. Jake will do play-by-play.
You don't even have to pay him, probably. Yes.
I'm totally negotiating his.

Speaker 1 No, you don't have to pay him. I can say right now, you don't have to pay him.

Speaker 3 You don't have to pay Jake, Tom. You can just get Jake to do play-by-play for you.
You can work on your color commentary.

Speaker 1 Yes. So this was my hot seat because I actually think it's hot seat the Tom Brady retirement.
He's not, he's spending an entire year off.

Speaker 1 He's basically admitting that he's not going to start broadcasting games until 2024.

Speaker 3 He's not retired. I can be him.

Speaker 1 He's not retired.

Speaker 3 I can see him being a total psycho about getting ready to do broadcasting.

Speaker 1 But he just left an entire year open for him to come back. Like he doesn't have anything holding.
If he jumps right into the booth and the Niners get

Speaker 1 a bunch of injuries and they call him, it's like, well, I'm already in the booth.

Speaker 1 This feels like he's just leaving the door a little bit open. Also interesting because

Speaker 1 Fox has the Super Bowl in 2024, so I respect that part of Tom Brady's decision where he's like, I'm not calling a season unless it ends in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they have in 2024.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so they have it. I don't know what happened with like the scheduling.

Speaker 1 There was a shake-up. I think it's because they got to get ABC into it because Joe Buck's calling it in like 2027.

Speaker 1 There was an article about Joe Buck today that was like, and we love Joe Buck, but it was just Flex City because it was, this article started like, Joe Buck watched the NFC Championship game at a bar in Paris.

Speaker 1 Joe Buck's going to watch the Super Bowl at a party in Cabo. It's like, okay, he's living his best life.

Speaker 3 I'm ready to, by the way, flip on Joe Buck again.

Speaker 1 Okay, everybody will have to have Mon to defend himself.

Speaker 3 Everybody likes Joe Buck.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm ready to say, like, fuck that guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm in.

Speaker 3 Joe Buck is entitled. He's spoiled.
Yeah. He's whiny.
He hates my team. Yep.

Speaker 3 Joe, I'm sorry. Like, you were cool for a while, but guess what? We're out.
Yeah, but come back on the show to defend yourself.

Speaker 1 So Fox has this year's Super Bowl, and they have it again in 2024. Okay.
So, and then it resets where it's now a rotation of NBC, CBS, ABC, which would be Joe Buck. Yeah.
And Fox.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, so it was funny that Tom Brady's like, oh, wait, next year we don't have the Super Bowl. I'll just just wait till we have the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 It does sound like Tom Brady is taking a vacation away from work to like be a dad for a year, maybe, try to get Giselle back, see how that plays out, not have anything on his schedule, and then returning to work in whatever context that's going to be.

Speaker 3 I think he's done, but if you think that that's going to stop us from speculating, every time a quarterback gets injured next year, could be a destination for Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 He at least leaves the door open for speculation. Yes, which is because he won't be doing it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's thank you thank you from us tom yeah because we needed that he also uh the did you hear him on jim gray's podcast which i i still don't

Speaker 1 someone's gonna have to explain jim gray to me at some point jim gray why uh started a podcast apparently right but why is he the why is

Speaker 1 Why is it that everyone, like, why did LeBron do the

Speaker 1 announcement with Jim Gray when he went to Miami? That was Jim Gray, was it not? I think so. Why is Brady like Jim? Why is Jim Gray Brady's guy? What is Jim.

Speaker 3 Jim Jim Gray was a big deal back in the 90s.

Speaker 1 I know that, but like, how is he?

Speaker 1 I just, I, I want to, maybe we just got to get Jim Gray on the show. Yeah.
Just be like, how are you doing this, dude?

Speaker 1 So, how are you the Oprah of sports where every like big, only the AA plus listers, they're like, need to interview Don Jim Gray?

Speaker 3 I feel like Jim Gray knows where the bodies are buried. It's crazy.
That's why, like, he, he probably has all the details. He's probably, it all goes back to being drinking buddies with people.

Speaker 3 I'll bet you Jim Gray is drinking buddies with like Bob Kraft with Brady's agent.

Speaker 3 And then they go to him because they know he's a trusted guy, and he's not going to speculate about some of the things that have happened in the past. He was a boxing guy for a while, too.

Speaker 3 I think he almost got beat up in the ring by Don King, maybe by Mike Tyson. I feel like Jim Gray almost got punched in the face by Mike Tyson in the early 90s and almost knocked out.

Speaker 3 And that kind of proved his metal where he's like, I'll stare anybody down.

Speaker 1 That was also Howard Letterman when I think he had the...

Speaker 1 He was like,

Speaker 1 if I were 50 years younger, I'd kick your ass. That was him.
That was an all-time moment. Yeah, I'm looking up Jim Gray right now.
I'm trying to figure out what exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's been around forever. He had a Pete Rose, big Pete Rose thing.
Jim Gray, married, no children. Also says that Jim Gray is a combat veteran, retired special warfare.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Wait.
No, this is a different Jim Gray.

Speaker 3 Jim Gray might be.

Speaker 1 This is a different Jim Gray.

Speaker 3 He's a retired special warfare combat creator.

Speaker 1 No, but that's Kim.

Speaker 3 Master Chief with 22 years experience.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I'm going to run with this. No, that's Jim Gray, computer scientist.

Speaker 3 I think it's the same Jim Gray.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's everyone's just respecting the troops by asking Jim Gray to do these interviews.

Speaker 3 It's like the old rumor that Mr. Rogers, he wore the sweaters all the time because he had all the army tattoos on his arm and he had like 53 confirmed kills as a sniper.
Yeah. I like that rumor.

Speaker 3 I'm going to just transfer that to Jim Gray. Jim Gray is a fucking assassin.

Speaker 1 Damn, Jim Gray. Three times sports reporter of the year.

Speaker 1 What a career. Yeah, so someone figure out how does Jim Gray just be the guy? So, yeah,

Speaker 1 Belichick and Brady were on the show together, and Brady like almost cried. Because

Speaker 1 it is crazy. It was one of those moments where you feel really stupid with

Speaker 1 how everyone covers sports and like the Brady versus Belichick thing because they basically both were like, yeah, we love each other.

Speaker 1 There's no way we would... either of us would have the success without the other.
And it was one of those no-duh moments. Like, yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's also very funny.

Speaker 1 We just got bored and we were like, they've won six Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 How can we split them up yeah it's funny that that he had brady and belichek on his podcast at the same time and we all agreed as a society that it's not that big a deal and let's not talk about it because jim gray that's the part that i don't understand jim gray doesn't move the needle except for the the like premiere athlete can you imagine if if belichek and brady went on a premiere podcast together like Call Her Daddy and got interviewed at the same time,

Speaker 3 we'd all be talking about it.

Speaker 1 Like the secret to our success was we found out day one that we both loved Gluck Luck 5000.

Speaker 1 And that's how you build the foundation of a relationship.

Speaker 3 Tom had the Koosh Gobbler unlock.

Speaker 1 Oh, Bill, you like getting sucked off too?

Speaker 3 Well, Ernie Adams used to come in the room and peg us as we were doing film study. And that really drove home all the lessons that we need to learn.

Speaker 1 All right, my other hot seat was Jay Williams. That dust up with Stephen A was all-time, like one of those true great moments where

Speaker 1 it was very personal on air, and you could feel the tension. And Stephen A.
just bodied him because he just kept it.

Speaker 1 He basically called him out because Jay Williams loves to say, I find it interesting, which is a very good way, easy way, a cop-out way of not actually saying what you feel. And Stephen A.

Speaker 1 was just like, you keep saying that, just say what you want to say.

Speaker 3 I find it interesting that Jay Williams keeps saying, I find it interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 3 And that's exactly what he was doing.

Speaker 3 He was saying, I find it interesting that you have all this animosity towards Kyrie Irving and you don't bring that same energy towards Jeff Bezos, which is a very funny thing to say, like as a sentence.

Speaker 3 But his implication was that Jeff Bezos, by not taking down the link to the documentary of the anti-Semitic film that Kyrie Irving promoted, was just as culpable as Kyrie was.

Speaker 3 And it's funny to imagine Jeff Bezos, who I don't even think is a CEO of Amazon anymore, but like sitting down and screening every documentary that he sells on Amazon and giving it a rating and be like, ah, no, you know what?

Speaker 3 I didn't like what this filmmaker was trying to do, so we're going to take this off the online store.

Speaker 1 Now, I'm going to say this just because if I'm wrong and it's just a false statement, then we'll just call it even, me and Jay Williams, for his tweet about Emei Odoka being the first African-American.

Speaker 3 That wasn't Jay Williams. He was hacked.

Speaker 1 He was hacked. Either way, I'm going to go for it.
I'm pretty sure I have a memory of Jay Williams after the entire documentary thing.

Speaker 1 He said that he watched it and there were some interesting points in it. I'm pretty sure he said that.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Who knows if I'm, someone would maybe have to go find that for me. He I think he said it was bad like he's like it's a bad documentary, but there were some interesting things that were brought up.

Speaker 3 I just I just felt it was interesting how the trains ran exactly on time.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. So someone find that for me so I can be vindicated and then I can

Speaker 1 Jay Williams and I are no longer even. I still own one.

Speaker 3 But Stephen A. Smith was, I think he was the victor in this situation.

Speaker 3 Basically was making Jay Williams very emotional on the air and Jay didn't really know how to explain his way out of it.

Speaker 3 And then at the end, Molly, bless her heart, had to step in and go like, okay, fellas, fellas, we're all friends and colleagues.

Speaker 3 And Jay Williams was over there, like, staring at him, looked like he was going to cry.

Speaker 1 And also, Stephen A. Smith had an unbelievable line when Jay Williams tried to call him triggered.
And Stephen A. Smith said, I'm always triggered.
It's like, you can't beat that.

Speaker 1 He's always triggered. He's always ready to fight.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 3 It was kind of similar to WWE, but it was real. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 No, it was that one moment where it breaks and you're like, wait, these guys really don't like each other.

Speaker 3 When Jay Williams thanked Stephen A. Smith for allowing him to speak for 90 seconds on the show,

Speaker 3 at that point you knew that there was something personal that Jay was holding back. And Stephen A.
Smith was, he was like, he smelled blood in the water. And there's no more dangerous Stephen A.

Speaker 3 Smith than when there's blood in the water.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. And then my cool throne, we talked about on Monday.
Max, you ready? Ready to purchase these tickets? Said. Go to the Super Bowl.
Said.

Speaker 1 And also, we've decided we added, Memes is going to go as well. So memes isn't part of the deal.
He's going to sit with them. He's going to get all the content.

Speaker 1 We're going to have an incredible PM TV out for this so max will have an entire episode of max at the super bowl we'll have social clips so memes i'll get reimbursed for the ticket i buy for you so you you don't have to pay me if the chiefs win so that one will be separate you can pay me if the chiefs win i'll accept that you're allowed to do that you can you can also pay me i no no max max don't don't step on my toes here memes you are more than welcome to pay me if the chiefs win Okay, this is a big purchase, Max.

Speaker 1 What are you thinking? I found there's Shadow Game Time, by by the way, buying them on Game Time. Use Barstool 100 for $100 off.

Speaker 1 I think these ones right here, Section 417, Row 17. Oh, I shouldn't say this out loud.
Bleep that. People will just be coming up to you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, no. We don't need that.
We don't need that.

Speaker 1 Shit, that was stupid. We don't need that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Let's, well, yeah, Rona's bailed on us. It's disgusting.

Speaker 1 That's fine. Just show me where you want to sit.
Show me where you want to sit.

Speaker 5 This chair, this couch is an absolute shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hank ruined it. Show me, point to where you want to sit, and then I'll tell you the price.
I'm going to scroll real quick. I think it's these ones right here.

Speaker 1 Those look sick. Don't you think?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Or these, a little more expensive. Yeah, let's go with a little more expensive.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Three seats together.
The total price is $18,960.

Speaker 3 And you're paying for how much of that?

Speaker 1 Whatever,

Speaker 1 two-thirds of that.

Speaker 3 So, Max,

Speaker 3 we had an interview with Max Home. He's going to be on the show, what, next week? Yeah.
So, Max was talking to us.

Speaker 3 It was really interesting about his confidence and how he developed a sense of real confidence that's not just based on this hard, tough exterior shell of pretending to be super confident.

Speaker 3 I couldn't help but think about you and how you've been acting this week towards the Eagles because you do have this hard shell of confidence on the outside. Well,

Speaker 5 the way he really said it was there was a difference between someone like Billy who has delusional confidence.

Speaker 3 I think he said he could be clinically diagnosed as being confident.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 So I'd like to think that I'm somewhere in the middle of Billy and Max, but probably closer to Billy.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I actually think that's fair and that's growth.
Yeah. You admitting that right now is.

Speaker 3 You can admit that you're nervous, that you're shaky because this is the biggest game of your life while also believing that the Eagles are good enough to win the Super Bowl. No, you can have both.

Speaker 5 It's starting to get to a point where I like the Eagles so much in this game that it's like, there's no way that there's no way this is going to happen.

Speaker 5 It makes too much sense that the Eagles are going to win this game. But that's not true.
I'm going to be going back and forth all week. It's the only thing that's on my mind.

Speaker 5 We have a really busy work week, and then

Speaker 5 every single thing that I do, it's like, I just need to remember that

Speaker 5 Sunday, I need to be ready to go.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Is this a can't-lose or a must-win for you? This is a can't-lose.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 That's what I thought.

Speaker 5 This is a can't-lose.

Speaker 3 Does it make you nervous that Nick Siriani said it was a must-win?

Speaker 5 Everything Nick Siriani does makes me nervous, but he still wins. So the answer is yes.

Speaker 1 That's like good.

Speaker 3 That's a good way to describe Nick Siriani. It's like he comes across as the biggest loser in the world, but he's really good.

Speaker 5 I don't like anything that comes out of his mouth ever.

Speaker 3 But he gets results.

Speaker 5 But he's great.

Speaker 7 He's great.

Speaker 5 He gets results. I look at him as like a Pete Alonzo sort of.

Speaker 1 football. Okay.

Speaker 3 It's not baseball season, man. Yeah, but I'm just thinking.

Speaker 3 Half our audience just tuned off.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 JJ time? Yeah, hold on. I'm purchasing them, so I hope that I can transfer these.
I wonder what if the NFL bans me? I don't think they could do that.

Speaker 1 Okay, now I have to do. All right, then we'll do this after.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but

Speaker 5 the tickets are.

Speaker 5 You don't need to know where to go.

Speaker 1 It's going to be $19,000. This is going to be $19,000.
Okay. So that's.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah, that's in.
That's fine.

Speaker 5 That's in my budget.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fine. That's fine.

Speaker 3 Oh, wait, we have breaking news. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Max,

Speaker 3 breaking moose. Yeah.
You have to do breaking moves. Oh.

Speaker 1 Breaking moves.

Speaker 3 Rodgers has talked about, Aaron Rodgers has talked on the Pat McAfee show about potentially retiring this offseason. I don't know because I haven't seen the clip yet.

Speaker 3 I don't know what context to take this in. But Aaron Rodgers says that this offseason, he has an opportunity to do a little self-reflection and some isolation.

Speaker 3 And then after that, he's going to be a lot closer to the final, final decision. He has not even decided yet whether he's going to play in 2023.

Speaker 3 That's why I think it's going to be important to get through this week and take my isolation retreat and contemplate all things in my future. He called it a darkness retreat for four nights alone.

Speaker 3 He said he will be in pitch black all day and all night for four days and nights. It's really sensory deprivation isolation.
He said it stimulates DMT and there can be some hallucinations.

Speaker 1 I I love Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 He's locking himself. He's going to be waterboarding himself, basically, to

Speaker 3 stimulate his brain to release the God particle so he can figure out whether or not he wants to make $58 million next year. Yes.
I can save you.

Speaker 3 You don't have to have your brain exert the chemical that's reserved for you when you die to pacify you and make passing into the afterlife smoothly to know that, yes, you do want to play football for one more year for $50 million.

Speaker 3 It's pretty easy. I'll save you that.

Speaker 3 pretty easy.

Speaker 1 By the way, the tickets have been purchased. Okay.
You're ready to go. You're ready to go.
Also, just one last thing.

Speaker 1 Memes had never been to an NFL game, and in the last month,

Speaker 1 he went to a playoff game in Kansas City and the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Pretty good. I've never been to a fucking Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ. You literally had never been to an NFL game.
Memes is really. He's going to the Super Bowl.
That's insane. But it will be great content, and we'll do it.
It will be a great PM TV.

Speaker 1 You'll get to see Max in all his glory. We'll be tweeting out all the live stuff.
So make sure you follow. Maybe even you go live at some point from Pardon My Take Instagram.

Speaker 1 Who knows what the live situation is going to be like?

Speaker 3 You're going to get to see Rihanna up close? Yep. Hank and Jake aren't here.
I can say that with impunity.

Speaker 3 I'm very excited to see Rihanna.

Speaker 1 I'm very excited to just watch Max.

Speaker 1 I wish I could just have you.

Speaker 1 I might have a personal file of memes just sending everything.

Speaker 6 I'm not.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I don't know.
The closer it gets, like, the more my heart is just like.

Speaker 1 You're going to scream at a little child. And like, it's going to be.
Oh, man.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I'm probably, there's going to be,

Speaker 3 there could be tears.

Speaker 1 Every time Axe starts talking about it, he starts getting deep into the recesses of his brain and realizing the loss is a possibility.

Speaker 1 And you can hear the switch in his brain where he's like, it's going to be,

Speaker 1 oh, man. Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 it's going to be.

Speaker 1 That's him realizing that a loss could happen.

Speaker 3 And in that scenario, he gets into like, I'm going to fight somebody with this.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be fighting someone with tears in my eyes.

Speaker 1 The first time someone ever gets his ass beat while the other man's crying.

Speaker 3 That would be awesome. You should actually think about doing that.

Speaker 5 You're going to see a rare side of me on Sunday night if the Eagles lose this game.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And it's, I think we all know what side of you that's going to be.

Speaker 1 I also seen it. I'm going to say this right now.
Let's make sure

Speaker 1 maybe Sunday before you go to the stadium, we'll do like a quick video with me and PFT just getting you pumped. Maybe we'll just go live for a minute, just last thoughts before you go into war.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, so get ready for that.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 I'm ready.

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Speaker 1 Here he is, JJ Watt.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest.

Speaker 3 I think we can give him two various.

Speaker 1 Very, very, very special guests. Future Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 It is JJ Watt.

Speaker 1 We have to, first of all, thank you for coming. Thanks for having me.
This is the first exclusive interview you've given since you retired. Let's say that.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, what other show did you do? Yeah. Rich Eisen?

Speaker 7 I did Rich and Dan today, but not exclusively.

Speaker 3 He definitely didn't go on coward, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, okay, good. Also, Rich and Dan, I would assume, didn't ask you, like, how long could you feel Ravel creeping on you on your last game? Like, we're gonna get to that.
Yes, of course.

Speaker 1 We're gonna get to that. So, those are the good questions.

Speaker 7 This is gonna be a good suggestion.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. All right, so it's great to have you on here.
Um, if it, I'm sad that you retired. Are you actually retired, though? We have to start there.
No, but come on, yes, like, really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's hit him with some hypotheticals.

Speaker 3 Well, okay, hypothetically, uh, the Steelers are the one seed next year, right?

Speaker 3 They lose a defensive lineman going to the playoffs. It's like week 17.
They're like, hey, JJ.

Speaker 3 Hey, JJ, you want to come play $10 million?

Speaker 1 Finish out the season.

Speaker 7 $10 million to finish out the season in 17?

Speaker 1 Both your brothers.

Speaker 3 I mean, the one seed.

Speaker 3 In Pittsburgh, are you going to deny your family the joy of watching you play with your brothers?

Speaker 7 I mean, if there's $10 million in week 17 with the one seed and everything, that is in consideration.

Speaker 1 All right, so you're not retired. No, I'm retired.
You're definitely not retired.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, you saw Tom Brady retired and you're like, well, now I have to share the Hall of Fame induction ceremony with that guy. It's going to be all about Tom that weekend.

Speaker 3 Put it off a week, and then it's like you and Matt Ryan.

Speaker 1 You'll definitely be the aesthetic. Perfect.
Yeah, you'll get the last speech.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't want the last speech.

Speaker 7 Oh, no interest in the last speech. Okay, see, I can just fluff it up for Tom and let him hit it out of the park.
I can give him all

Speaker 1 the praise and everything, and then just let him maybe say a quick sentence about me before he gets into yeah thanking everybody so all right so this is where we get hank in a pickle because hank still hates you no doubt yeah and and he you you knew i'm here for it i'm here for it yeah you brought it up you said like hank i'm sorry that you hate me it was sad to see the look on the little troll smile on his face well he's proud of it i'm sure i mean he should be he's one he's holding on he's holding on to the hate which is great so we so i told him last night i was like you know you know the old saying like you can't tell the story of football without this person that's that's kind of the mark of a hall of family you can't tell the story of football without jj watt Watt and the dominance you had.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can tell the story of J.J. Watt's career without pardon my take.

Speaker 1 So I'm wondering if maybe we should probably give the speech beforehand.

Speaker 1 You know, your son won't be old enough, so maybe it's just us.

Speaker 1 And you invite us to Canton with you. And Hank will unfortunately not be able to attend, even though Tom Brady will also be.
being abducted that weekend.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, you know, maybe we'd give your speech the night before at the party. You should set up there in Canton.

Speaker 7 Yeah. And we'll, I mean, if I'm fortunate enough to get in, you do we do a PMT from there.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. We do.
Just don't do that. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 3 When you retired, we actually had the debate on part of my take, and it was a no-brainer. A lot of people will say, like, JJ Watt, great player, all-time player, even better person.

Speaker 3 That's bullshit.

Speaker 1 You're a way better football

Speaker 1 than you are a person.

Speaker 3 And you're a pretty good person. Oh, thank you.

Speaker 7 You're a very good person.

Speaker 3 But any of these guys out there that are like, oh, even better person?

Speaker 1 Nope, Not true.

Speaker 1 Not nearly as good of a person.

Speaker 7 I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
And probably true.

Speaker 1 Probably true. Let's take off the humble stuff for a second.
Your peak, because when you were at your peak, you were the most dominant player in the NFL. Where would you put yourself?

Speaker 1 I know that, like, all right, Reggie White, maybe Lawrence Taylor, you're in the conversation at your peak. Like, if you took best defensive players at their peak,

Speaker 1 You're in the conversation.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's the problem.

Speaker 7 I was literally having this debate this morning with a couple guys. And the issue with debates like that is

Speaker 7 what are you talking about? When you say greatest defender of all time, are you talking about longevity of their career?

Speaker 7 Are you talking about if you took everything in their career and put it together? Or are you talking about for one single game?

Speaker 7 Are you talking about for one single season that which player would you want? Because that's different. I mean, I'm never going to argue for the longevity of my career.

Speaker 7 I mean, I had injuries, I had issues, I had things going on. But for one season or one game,

Speaker 7 I'll put myself in that argument.

Speaker 1 I like that. Yeah, because it's a fact.
Like your dominance in that stretch, was it three in a row?

Speaker 7 Did you win three in a row or three out of four? Three out of four.

Speaker 1 Three out of four. Three out of four defensive player of the years.

Speaker 1 And I think that, you know, maybe I think people recognize that.

Speaker 1 They realize like that stretch where it felt like there was a stretch where it felt like every time they would go on red zone and they'd cut to a Texans game, it was like, what did JJ Watches do?

Speaker 1 And the one thing that I heard about you, and I don't know if you can speak to like how this is possible, but in hearing about like offensive linemen talk about how you played, they said the difference between you and everyone else is that your motor never stopped.

Speaker 1 So you like play one to play 70, you were still going 100%. Is that like, did you know that when you were playing? Like, I have the ability to just never let up even a little bit.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's something I prided myself on.

Speaker 7 And I think, I mean, I don't have it in front of me, but I would say if I looked at most of the sacks and most of the TFLs and things from my career, I would assume that a decent majority of them were either in the back half of a season or in the back half of games, like the second half, because guys get worn down.

Speaker 7 Guys get tired, whether it's the second half of a game or it's the second half of the season. You just get gassed, and that's what I prided myself on.

Speaker 7 And then, I mean, we all know my history of working out and all some of the bullshit, but that's why I was who I was at the end of the season because of that.

Speaker 7 And it's also part of the reason I ended up injured.

Speaker 1 I like you say some of the bullshit when you retired and then the next day you took a picture of you at the squat rack.

Speaker 7 Not the next day.

Speaker 1 It was the same day? No. Oh, you took a day off?

Speaker 7 No, it was like a couple.

Speaker 1 You're talking about the one from a couple days ago when D'Amico got hired? Yeah. How long of a break did you take?

Speaker 7 Okay, I took 10 days.

Speaker 7 10 days?

Speaker 1 Wow, slack.

Speaker 7 I felt

Speaker 1 that motorcycle.

Speaker 7 I can't do your guys' lifestyle, okay? I just can't. I tried it for 10 days.

Speaker 7 I mean, I went home to Wisconsin for a weekend, and we threw a good party at a little Irish pub in my town and got after it pretty good. And I had no routine, no nothing.

Speaker 7 I'd sleep till I could wake up every day and hang out with my son all day. And I was like, dude, I got to get a routine.
This is a shit show.

Speaker 1 Like, just a lot of people. Yeah, that's actually where freedom can be bad sometimes.
That's also perfect, too.

Speaker 1 You basically were like, I went to a Wisconsin bar in the middle of winter, looked around, and was like, I can't do this.

Speaker 7 This cannot be a weekly thing, man. Like, this cannot be it.

Speaker 3 So do you have any plans for retirement? Are you going to step on our turf? Are you going to be one of these players that retires and thinks they can take over the podcasting game?

Speaker 1 Our motor never stops. We will frustrate it.
I can't keep up with the impods. Yeah, he will.
No, that's why.

Speaker 1 You do not. You guys are the reason I will not get into podcasting.

Speaker 7 Because of how much it's too, you have to be pumping out content at such a crazy rate, and you have to be doing it with such veracity and enthusiasm, and you have to be doing it constantly, and you have to have a team that puts it together.

Speaker 7 That literally is a deterrent for me. Like, I don't want to work that hard at that.

Speaker 1 Okay. So

Speaker 1 that's not it for me i let you know a little secret it's really easy yeah it's super easy these guys do it all these guys do it all

Speaker 1 they're not actually doing anything right now yeah just the microphones connect to the internet and then people listen to us it's pretty that's fair although i think that you probably would take pride in like we we take pride in having bad opinions you'd probably want to be correct but that's the that's really the the key to podcasting is like if you don't care about being correct it's very easy that's fair that's one of the issues that i have because i mean i do think that there's some form of broadcasting for me in the future just because I don't want to be away from the game.

Speaker 7 I want to be around the game. I love it.
Early in my career, I said I'd never do it. But the closer I got to the end, I realized like it's just, it's too cool.

Speaker 7 Like the NFL is awesome and I want to be around it, but I don't want to be around it in the capacity where I have to pour all my time and energy into it.

Speaker 7 But the problem with broadcasting is every week you got to make those picks where they put the little thing at the bottom and they're like, he picked 27 to 13.

Speaker 7 Then on Monday, everybody comes in and they're like, look at this moron. And I'm like, what do you want me to do? If I knew what I was doing, I'd go to Vegas.

Speaker 1 I'd put it all on the line.

Speaker 1 like nobody knows what's going on yeah you just have to be so bad you become good yeah that's like when everybody picks the one I'm the guy that picks the other one and then when you do win they're like he knew yeah right yeah right and I never lost I'm one and oh my last one yeah like I mean the game of the year game of the year yeah I gotta have took a game of the year almost killed me this year the Baylor BYU game I didn't sleep and I got sick for like two weeks after so yeah it is it's harder than the NFL I would say oh easily yeah easily watching all these games if I knew what I like my buddies, I mean, even just since the season ended, my buddies are asking me opinions and shit, and I'm trying to like, I'm literally trying to think, like, who would I actually pick in this game?

Speaker 7 And I'm nowhere close.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Nowhere close.

Speaker 3 So you might want to get into broadcasting. I'm hearing a no to coaching.
If D'Amico calls you up and he's like, hey, I need your expertise on the defensive line. Are you going...

Speaker 7 Are you thinking about it?

Speaker 7 I'll pop in and talk to the boys and I'll watch practice and I'll talk to them, but no, I have no interest in the hours and the time commitment and going to the combine and like going to the senior bowl and doing all these things.

Speaker 7 I do not have interest in that.

Speaker 1 It is very funny whenever a guy retires like you and they're like, oh, he's going to be a coach. It's like, do you know how much

Speaker 1 college coach? A college coach would be

Speaker 1 miserable. Yeah.
They put in so many hours.

Speaker 7 So many hours. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What about high school coach, like Phil Coach?

Speaker 7 High school is certainly intriguing to me, no doubt, because of A, the hours are less, but B, the impact that you can have in the way that you can get to those kids and you can actually have some real conversations.

Speaker 7 There's no NIL, there's no anything else. You're just, I mean, my high school coach had one of the biggest impacts on me and some of the messages he gave.

Speaker 7 And I think that you can help mold the kids' life. And not the kid that's going to college to play football.
You can mold a kid's life who's going to college or going to the trades.

Speaker 7 I mean, one of my best friends from back home is a plumber. And to this day, we talk about the messages our high school coach gave us.
That's cool.

Speaker 1 That is very cool.

Speaker 3 That's awesome. Yeah.
How's your heart doing?

Speaker 7 It's all right, man. It's crazy.
So

Speaker 7 after that incident happened,

Speaker 7 it scared the shit out of me. And I had a lot of deep, deep thoughts about life and everything.
And for about a week, week and a half, I would check my pulse 10 times a day.

Speaker 7 And I'm just checking my heart. Like I have devices and everything.
I was checking it just because I was scared. And everything was normal.

Speaker 7 And then I think it was probably best that I jumped right back into the game because it didn't give me time to think about it. And then I all of a sudden settled back into my routine and it went away.

Speaker 7 I stopped thinking about it.

Speaker 3 Is that one of those things where like it was, you thought that you had to get back in the routine at the time but maybe five ten years from now you're gonna look back and be like why did I play

Speaker 7 why did I play a game of football like a week after my heart got shocked back into rhythm it can definitely seem like that and for me and my wife at the time it kind of felt like that oh you guys got divorced

Speaker 1 no at that moment

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 1 so uh

Speaker 7 but i mean we literally i mean i talked to eight or nine doctors in a 48 hour period that weekend and i was asking every single question: like, what can possibly happen?

Speaker 7 What happens if my heart goes back out of rhythm during the game? What happens if when I'm practicing tomorrow, my heart goes out of rhythm? Like, every single question. I mean, I had anesthesia.

Speaker 7 They put me out to shock my heart back in. And I'm like, what happens if I'm at practice tomorrow and I just had anesthesia today? Like, we asked every question, and the doctors gave me the all-clear.

Speaker 7 So,

Speaker 1 what exactly happened? Like, how did it all happen? Take us through, like, you just woke up one day and it was out of the way.

Speaker 7 No, no. So, I was at practice on a Wednesday,

Speaker 7 went out to practice. I came in and did my workout.

Speaker 7 After my workout,

Speaker 7 I was in the meetings in the afternoon and I stood up after one of our meetings and I was like lightheaded.

Speaker 7 You know that feeling sometimes we stand up and you're lightheaded and you're like, whoa, you just got to balance yourself, which is normal. So I was like, all right, let's go on.

Speaker 7 But the next meeting, I stood up and I had it again. And I was like, my heart was beating weird.
And one of our assistant coaches looked at me and was like, you all right?

Speaker 7 And the little you all right kind of gave me that like, oh shit, somebody else saw it. Like, it wasn't just me feeling like a little off.

Speaker 7 So I went in to our trainers, I was like, hey, my heart's beating a little weird, and I'm real short of breath.

Speaker 7 Can you just check my pulse? And they checked my pulse. And our trainer looked at me and he was like,

Speaker 7 we're going to send you to look at something. And that scares the shit out of you.
Cause like, I was expecting him to be like, yeah, no problem. So then he sent me to our team doctor.

Speaker 7 They get an EKG on me. He read the EKG and he was like, oh,

Speaker 7 I'm going to send you to a cardiologist right now.

Speaker 7 And so I'm like, fucking, hey, man. So they sent me to the cardiologist, and the cardiologist runs a test, and he's doing the ultrasound of my heart.

Speaker 7 And so I'm laying on the table, and I've told this story before, but I'm laying on the table doing an ultrasound. Literally, the week before, we were doing the ultrasound of my son.

Speaker 7 So I'm getting the ultrasound of my son, seeing that, and then the next week we're doing an ultrasound of my heart, seeing if I'm like going to live or not. I don't know.
I have no clue.

Speaker 7 I'm like, am I going to die? And it scared the shit out of me. And I was so worried and everything.
And my wife is worried. I mean, it's, and he does the ultrasound.

Speaker 7 and he goes okay I'm gonna send you to a specialist and now I'm like what the fuck man like why I'm sent five rungs up the ladder here like this is real and they sent me to like a electrophysicist or something and he was explaining to me what was going on and it was it was basically just an AFib.

Speaker 7 I mean, people have AFib all the time. There's people walking around with AFib.

Speaker 7 So in the end, it turned out to not be the scariest thing, but it was scary because I'm a professional athlete. Right.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 we caught it within 24 hours, which meant that that saved a lot of potential issues.

Speaker 7 Because if you're out for more than 48 hours, you can have blood clot issues, you can have stroke potential and things. But since we caught it so fast, they said, you're okay.

Speaker 7 We shocked it back in, and dude,

Speaker 7 it was crazy.

Speaker 3 So, what I'm hearing is you're a clone. And the real JJ Watt's dead.

Speaker 1 I mean, the real JJY would never retire from focus. Yeah, you're right.
You're right. You're right.

Speaker 7 That's what happened.

Speaker 7 I'm all AI. It's all AI.

Speaker 3 That's scary, though. And having your heart shock back into rhythm.
And then, yeah, you're right. Like looking, you're always looking over your shoulder, like, am I going back into it?

Speaker 3 And then your mind thinks maybe you're going back into it when you're not.

Speaker 7 To this day, I'll check my pads up. And my wife, I mean, so they took me into the hospital to shock it back into rhythm.
And my wife, they're like, would you like to be in the room for it?

Speaker 7 And she's like, no, I don't want to be in the room.

Speaker 1 Like, what the fuck do you mean?

Speaker 7 No. So, I mean, they literally, I mean, took my shirt off, like, gave me some anesthesia, put me out, and then put the pads on your chest, like, just like you, like, shock you.

Speaker 7 And then 10 minutes later,

Speaker 7 10 minutes later I'm out the door

Speaker 3 messed up that she broke up with you after that

Speaker 1 You're Lois

Speaker 1 That's a crazy story Then you played like and then the Mar Hamlin stuff happens you that had to have been it was you're like that could have been me.

Speaker 7 I mean, I know it's different, but still so we're sitting in my house watching is me and my wife and our son was just watching

Speaker 7 the game on Monday night and I went to the kitchen to make some food and I turn around and look at the TV and there's everybody stopped and so I stand and I stood in front of my fireplace in front of the TV three feet away from the TV for 45 minutes.

Speaker 7 I did not move and it was just the scariest and then at that moment my wife had already known that I was retiring and everything and that was when she was like I could not be more happy that you're retiring now.

Speaker 7 I mean it was just scary.

Speaker 1 Wait, so when did you decide you were going to retire?

Speaker 7 Months, months ago.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. I knew was it the start of the season or was it before the season?

Speaker 7 It was before the season I knew that if I was playing at a level that I was proud of, it was over.

Speaker 7 Like, I've been kind of trying to find that season where I was putting film out there and I was playing football that I was proud of, that I could show my son my final season and say, Look, this is dad.

Speaker 7 I didn't want it to be an injured season, I didn't want it to be, you know, a season where I sucked. Like, I wanted it to be something where I could look back on and be proud of.

Speaker 1 And your retirement, the way you did it was awesome. The tweet, it confused a lot of people.
Did you realize that?

Speaker 1 No, yeah, because the tweet was COA's first ever NFL game, my last ever NFL home game. I think it was just so subtle

Speaker 1 because people don't retire like that. I obviously, I read it, was like, oh, he's retiring.
But everyone replying was just like, does this mean you're done?

Speaker 1 I mean, it was a cool way to do it.

Speaker 1 Were you thinking of other options?

Speaker 7 So I had thought for a long time, because I had known for a long time, and I've asked, I was talking to my agent, my wife, and I was talking to my family, like, what do you think is the best way to do it?

Speaker 7 Because I did want to do it with a little time left. I wanted to do it with two games left just so that I could say goodbye to my teammates the right way, the fans.

Speaker 7 Like, I wanted to be able to say goodbye.

Speaker 7 But there was no way in my head that I was like,

Speaker 7 every way it kind of felt like it was really making it super about you. And I didn't want it to just be like, hey guys, this is it.

Speaker 7 So I wanted it to be about my son and my family and about the reason that I'm retiring.

Speaker 7 I didn't know until that morning that that's how I was going to do it. But I got some, they sent us the pictures from the game and they had the picture of my son and my wife.

Speaker 7 And I was like, this is it.

Speaker 1 It was perfect. I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 And the video was great that they showed of everyone from your career now not to be narcissistic but i was like half watching it being like are me and pft gonna pop up in this video and i was wondering why no one asked yes it's pretty it's pretty crazy how that video came about and i'm i am massively thankful and will forever be grateful for this video my d-line coach matt burke when i was when i said i was retiring so we had two weeks to basically put it together and he just got on the phone and called the first person he knew and told like spread the word like wildfire and people started firing their videos back and I'm so grateful to him because I mean I was walking into that meeting we had hard knocks and hard knocks is literally around 24-7 and they were like hey can we mic you up for this meeting and I was like guys you've mic'd me up all week like we got cameras everywhere I've given two speeches to the team this week I don't want to I don't want to be mic'd up and they were like well we think he's got something special planned Vance our decoordinator and I was like they don't have anything special dude like we got a game tomorrow like they don't have anything special And then we went to that meeting and Vance put on the film and I was like, I was kind of pissed.

Speaker 7 I was watching film. It was my last game.
And I was like, just let me go to bed, man. Like, I want to go to bed.
And then Burke got up and said the video, and he showed it, dude.

Speaker 7 And I mean, I don't know, like, the emotions that flowed through me, and I wasn't ready for it.

Speaker 7 I wasn't ready to see my whole career in terms of what it meant to other people, and in terms of thinking about myself in fifth grade and where I ended up, and thinking about this is literally it.

Speaker 7 I'm never, ever in my life going to play the game I love. Unless the Steelers have a million.

Speaker 7 It just, it blew my mind. And the waterworks started, and it couldn't stop.
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 See, I'm pissed. We should have been in that.

Speaker 1 What would your reaction have been if like halfway through it's just, oh, hey, J.J.

Speaker 7 The whole room would have lost it. The whole room would have died laughing.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're going to have to remake it and put ourselves in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, man. Is there like one week or one game looking back over your career, like when you were truly at the height of your powers? When you were the peak J.J.
Watt?

Speaker 7 I've said my favorite three minutes of football that I've ever played was a game versus the Tennessee Titans at home in Houston in a year, where I got a a strip sack.

Speaker 7 I picked up the ball, ran it like 15 yards. I came off the field for one play.
They threw a ball down the D-hop to the one-yard line. They called me back in.

Speaker 7 I went in the backfield, motioned out, and Ryan Fitzpatrick threw me a touchdown the next play.

Speaker 7 So like a three-play stretch where I did everything I could do on defense, and then I went out and scored on offense.

Speaker 7 To me, that was the coolest moment of my career because I felt like I was playing backyard ball. Yeah, that is pretty at the highest level.

Speaker 3 It sucked that we weren't allowed to use you as a tight end in fancy football back then. Yeah.

Speaker 7 But if I scored, did it count? Like on team defense or how does that work?

Speaker 1 No, no, team defense.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 If somebody drafted you as like an individual defensive player, maybe that would count. But you should have been able to start J.J.
Watt as a tight end.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's bullshit. So who gets that touchdown? Nobody.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no one. Never happened.

Speaker 3 Yeah, never happened. So the best three minutes of your life didn't happen.

Speaker 1 Sorry, a racing fast. Damn it.
So what were the worst three minutes of football left? And why was it when Brett Bielman just didn't run John Clay in the Rose Bowl?

Speaker 7 Amen, man. I mean,

Speaker 1 that was like your Wisconsin football.

Speaker 7 Tank Carter, the freaking

Speaker 7 two-point conversion that he blocked.

Speaker 1 I was sitting like 10 rows up from that. I was like, just run John Clay.

Speaker 7 How cool was that just until that moment? Until we lost.

Speaker 7 The Rose Bowl is the coolest thing of all.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then losing sucked because I talked a lot of shit before the game, I remember.

Speaker 1 But yeah, what was the worst three minutes?

Speaker 7 Well, I mean, the worst three minutes is, you know, take your pick of my injuries. I think my broken leg was certainly up there.

Speaker 1 That hurt.

Speaker 7 That hurt like a motherfucker. Yeah.

Speaker 3 What about you were on the field and Alex Smith broke his leg, too?

Speaker 7 Yeah, that sucked, dude.

Speaker 7 And I did not know that I was the hit in the reason until years later when they like the three the E60 and they showed the slow motion and everything. It was you?

Speaker 3 Yeah. Wow, definitely not a better person than a football player.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, not at all. Did that sue him? Not at all.

Speaker 7 No, it's terrible. I felt bad.
I mean, immediately after the game, I texted him and everything because the play was crazy because I just assumed it was a concussion or something.

Speaker 7 Because Kareem Jackson actually got the sack and I came in and was he was still up so I came in and I was coming over the top and then I ran off because we were excited and I saw him laying down.

Speaker 7 I was like, oh, it's got to be a concussion or something because he's really down. And we were all taking an e and then we saw eventually what actually happened.

Speaker 7 And then years later, somebody told me the story that it's like the exact same yard line as Joe Diseman. It was like the exact same.

Speaker 7 And then it was also me and Lawrence Taylor, the two, three time defensive player of the year. It's like there were these crazy synergies that blew my mind.

Speaker 3 It's like the Lincoln-Kennedy crossroad thing where like Lincoln's secretary is named Kennedy, Kennedy's name Lincoln. But just know that it's not your fault.
It's not your fault. It's that field.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's a bad field. It's cursed.
It's not your fault.

Speaker 7 Are you looking for a new field? Are you guys, is it happening? What's going on?

Speaker 3 I'm going to move to the side of old RFK Stadium. That's what I'm looking at.

Speaker 7 And with Lamar, right? I mean, I know you're here.

Speaker 1 No, Lamar has been rumored.

Speaker 7 Many stories have been. It's been rumored.
I mean, yeah, I've seen a lot of photos.

Speaker 7 I've seen a lot of photos.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of Photoshops that are in the future.

Speaker 3 So we actually, we have a graphics guy, and his main job is to make YouTube thumbnails for us. And we just start hitting him up with these absurd Photoshop requests.

Speaker 1 And they take two hours. And they take it in your life.
Oh, my God. We didn't know that they took two hours.
I thought it was.

Speaker 1 He's just not sleeping. Because we're just asking Javante Adams in a Bears uniform.
He's like, all right, I'm not sleeping.

Speaker 1 He's clocked in about 30 hours over the last few weeks just making Lamar Jackson photos.

Speaker 3 But no, I mean,

Speaker 3 I'd like to get off that field. Everybody's been hurt on that field.

Speaker 7 Oh, I mean, and just like as a guy who's played in every

Speaker 7 single day. My last two games were the last two stadiums I had to play in.
So I played in every single stadium. Yeah, the place could use upgrades.

Speaker 1 We're grass-grass guys. Yeah.
Not too. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 Where do you land on that?

Speaker 7 I am on the if the weather is great and everything is all the exact same grass 1,000%.

Speaker 7 I am also a pass rusher who needs my footing. So rain, snow, things like that, I do like turf, but I will not go against my fellow NFL brothers who are very much fighting the fight for grass.

Speaker 1 You're thinking about maybe getting into ownership, right?

Speaker 7 Soccer ownership. I'm big into, yes.

Speaker 1 Would you be interested in maybe

Speaker 1 about $20,000 of a team called Swansea that someone might be trying to unload?

Speaker 1 You have Swansea? Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's just losing money every year. So you want some of that?

Speaker 1 I'll give it to you.

Speaker 7 I've literally been looking at Swansea.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, great. So, yeah, great.
So you can take my shares.

Speaker 7 What kind of discount are we looking at?

Speaker 7 When did you get into Swansea? Because I noticed you were a Swansea fan when they were back when they were playing in the championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they stink.

Speaker 1 And here's the one thing I'll say.

Speaker 1 If you are thinking about Swansea, just actually, that'd be great because they like every probably six months or so, I'll just start getting tweets that will be like, fuck you, you American pig.

Speaker 1 And I'd be like, what's this? And then I'll look, and it's like a message board, and it will be like, Liverpool has LeBron, and we have this fat blogger.

Speaker 1 And it's just like, oh, okay, I guess this riled them up.

Speaker 7 That's the

Speaker 7 one drawback of minority ownership. I mean, because let's be honest, I don't have enough money to buy a majority of any team.

Speaker 7 So you're the face, and they want you to be a part of it partially because of that. And you have a little bit of say here and there.

Speaker 1 Oh, I have zero say.

Speaker 1 I have like 0.00001%

Speaker 1 share. Like, I have zero cents.

Speaker 7 But you get all the shit when they suck. Sucked.

Speaker 1 And now you.

Speaker 7 You have mine. Oh, okay.
I'll give it to you for free. 20.
I mean, you got it. I think it's worth nothing now.

Speaker 1 But yeah, you can have it. Thank you.
I still don't have to do my taxes in November because of it.

Speaker 3 Are you interested in a professional lacrosse league team?

Speaker 1 Oh, this actually would be perfect. The dogs have been playing water, yeah.
The dogs have been playing. There's an extra team there.

Speaker 7 The water dogs.

Speaker 1 The JJ Water Dogs. Yeah.

Speaker 7 It is good. The current ownership is really trash that place, though.

Speaker 1 Wow, we won a championship. Banners fly forever.
Results.

Speaker 3 How many championships have you won? Zero.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Maybe some of your owners should have belittled you a little more.

Speaker 1 They should have.

Speaker 1 Maybe I don't respond to positive reimbursements. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I should have just had people shit on me more. Yeah.
A couple coaches tried.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Are you going to go into the Hall of Fame as a Texan?

Speaker 7 This is an honest question.

Speaker 7 I don't know how any of that works.

Speaker 1 I see the bus.

Speaker 7 The bus doesn't have a hat. You're not wearing a hat.
No.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's just baseball.

Speaker 3 I think baseball, they make you choose your hat.

Speaker 3 I just want to trap you into saying, I don't know if you had something bitter to say about the Texans.

Speaker 7 No, I just hired one of my favorite teammates of all time.

Speaker 7 It was one of the best decisions they could have ever made because immediately, I mean, we've obviously gone through some struggles there in the last few years, but immediately, every single old player is on board.

Speaker 7 All the fans are on board. Like, you want to fill that stadium up again next year? D'Amico, as your coach, is immediately doing that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to be awesome. So you pretended that you weren't going to make the Hall of Fame.
That was funny.

Speaker 1 Let's do a little role play. We'll do David Baker.
So,

Speaker 1 he knocks on your door. He's like, Hey, JJ, you've made the Hall of Fame.
Are you going to tell us what your reaction is? Like, let's pretend that this is happening right now.

Speaker 7 This is another question that I'm fascinated to see.

Speaker 1 How the hell does that work?

Speaker 1 Where is the hotel?

Speaker 7 Where are these hotels?

Speaker 1 I think it's a Super Bowl week. Oh, he's no longer.

Speaker 3 Yeah, let's just say for the argument that he is.

Speaker 1 He's David Baker, okay. David Baker, giant guy, dude.

Speaker 3 He puts everybody up in hotel rooms somehow. They're all in the same hotel.

Speaker 1 It's Super Bowl weeks. But is he putting up guys that aren't making it?

Speaker 3 It's Super Bowl week. Yeah, everybody crying.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 Like, if David Baker is putting up in a hotel, I'm not crying because I know I'm in.

Speaker 1 You're going in right away.

Speaker 3 It's all the finalists.

Speaker 3 So then they go in a back room and then they have like, I don't know, Peter King orders three dozen pizzas, doesn't pay for eight of them, stands on tables, like, here's why I think this guy should make it in.

Speaker 1 And then after that,

Speaker 1 after that,

Speaker 1 pizza parties are underrated. Yeah, they are.

Speaker 3 When's the last time you had a good pizza party?

Speaker 7 It's been a little while.

Speaker 3 See, again, these are the things that we do for ownership.

Speaker 3 But yeah, they knock on your door after they take the final vote, and then they tell you you made the Hall of Fame. Congrats.
So there's probably like five or six people that don't get that knock.

Speaker 7 That is crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So what are you going to do? Are you going to cry? Are you going to? I don't know.

Speaker 7 I didn't think I was going to cry in my last game, so I don't know. Maybe I will.

Speaker 3 Did you cry during the game?

Speaker 7 So it was, I mean, we got crushed. We lost 37 to 14.
Take the hand card.

Speaker 1 So first of all.

Speaker 7 You were crying on the field while you you were rushing the passer so the the we lost 37 to 14 or whatever but i got two sacks which i was jacked about obviously my last game and with two minutes left in the game the 49ers put up a graphic that said like congrats on a hall of fame career or whatever and the fans literally started chanting my name and they took me out like they called a timeout and took me out damn so like i was literally like This is fucking crazy.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Fans in an opposing stadium are chanting my name.
The opposing team put my face up there. And this is it.
This is my last time I'm going to walk off the field. So I was, yeah, I was crying.

Speaker 1 And my son was in the stands.

Speaker 7 My wife was in the stands.

Speaker 1 It was a cool moment. So when you get off the field and you take off all your pads and stuff, how quickly did Darren Revelle ask to take

Speaker 1 your jersey and all that? Come on. You knew he was behind you.
I didn't.

Speaker 1 Yes, you did.

Speaker 7 So this is part of the interesting part of that. So I know he got roasted for that.

Speaker 1 Rightfully so. So he literally cut in line of special needs shit.

Speaker 7 So those kids.

Speaker 1 He did. He did.
They saw the video.

Speaker 3 You were making a B line over to the kids, and they were so excited to meet Jay.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 It's like, you're their hero. And then Darren's like, excuse me, Mr.
Watt.

Speaker 7 This is so, so, so good because this is the like most, this is the most funny epitome of like what you only get what you see and you immediately make your opinions on it.

Speaker 7 So those kids, they had been there literally. I don't, it was crazy.
They were there for at least an hour. That makes it worse.
So I, no, no. So I had seen them four times.

Speaker 7 I had seen them four times and I talked to them every time and they were, it was awesome.

Speaker 7 They were, they were giving me shit because I'm a cardinal and they're 49 hours and I was trying to get him to come to our side.

Speaker 7 But so then that that was like the fourth time I literally had no, because Darren, Darren and I are buddies. Like I know you guys hate him and it's we're we're buddies.

Speaker 1 And so I'm starting to see the side of things. It's not a holiday.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Maybe you're right.
You are a fan.

Speaker 7 So he had flown in. I didn't know he was coming.
So he was like surprising me at my last game.

Speaker 1 That's the worst surprise.

Speaker 7 So I did not know he was there. I wasn't looking for him.
And then the whole thing that went down. But I will say this about him.
He handed me, after the game, he handed me a binder.

Speaker 7 And in that binder, the face of the binder said

Speaker 7 daddy's cards. And it said 4COA.
And inside was every single trading card from the time I started Wisconsin until my last game in the NFL. And it was for my son.
He was stalking you.

Speaker 1 It was a pretty

Speaker 1 good thing.

Speaker 7 And he got it.

Speaker 1 He basically was like, here's my stalking material. Did he take it?

Speaker 3 Like all the eyes cut out of all the trading cards?

Speaker 1 I mean, he made a Twitter account for my son when he was born. He's a weird guy.
No, he didn't. Yeah, he did.
Did he, really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was like, you got to squat on digital rights or something like that. I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll admit, it's very thoughtful that he did. That is a nice gift.
That's a nice gift. We'll give him that.
That's a very nice gift.

Speaker 1 He probably is going to be hitting you up to like, he actually, he probably handed it to you because he was expecting you to sign every card. Probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 With authenticated.

Speaker 1 Grab some grass and put it in.

Speaker 7 Like, yeah, my son's signature.

Speaker 1 So wait, how is dad life? How old is your son now?

Speaker 7 He's three months. Okay.
It's the best. It's the greatest.
I don't,

Speaker 7 you know, just like everybody, before you have a son or before you have a daughter, everybody tells you how great it is, and you're like, sure, whatever.

Speaker 7 But it is truly the greatest thing of all time. And I can't explain it to people because you don't understand until you do it.

Speaker 1 Do you think he had anything to do? Because I agree with everything you said. You know, I cried both times my children were born.

Speaker 1 Do you think, though, like, because your heart does grow bigger, do you think your son maybe had something to do with your heart going after them? Possibly.

Speaker 7 Possibly.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So much love.

Speaker 7 Yeah, just too much love. Like, I just can't.
But he did. The cool thing, someday I'll tell him.
Since he was born, I had, in my last 10 games since he was born, I had 10 sacks in 10 games.

Speaker 7 That's insane. Like, I literally turned into like a fucking good football player.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's, that's what we bet on golfers after they have kids for that exact reason.

Speaker 3 And NFL player, I bet on you when to get a sack, I think your first game after having a kid.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because it's like something about a player having a kid, they're going out there, they're playing for a sense, like a purpose bigger than themselves.

Speaker 3 Their teammates are usually pretty happy for him because he just had a baby. It's the easiest bet of all time.

Speaker 7 Oh, no question. I mean, if you're a receiver or something, the quarterback is definitely throwing you the ball in the red zone.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yes. Are you going to let your son play football?

Speaker 7 If he wants to, absolutely.

Speaker 7 I mean, his wife.

Speaker 1 He's going to be a sick athlete.

Speaker 7 His wife's an incredible soccer. My wife's an incredible soccer player, so he could follow in his mom's footsteps and do that.
But yeah, if he wants to play football, he can play.

Speaker 1 He's huge right now.

Speaker 3 Is he really yeah kid is gigantic how soon because you always hear rumors of like a giant baby born in louisiana and like louisiana state immediately offers them a scholarship how quickly can somebody offer your son a scholarship to play football because honestly right now i'm speaking on behalf of james madison university my name

Speaker 3 i would like to officially offer your son a giant nil deal to go to james madison university so he's he's got his first offer thank you coe's gonna be like 15 years old i'm gonna be sliding into his dms being like you want to make some sick t-shirts come to Wisconsin.

Speaker 7 Yeah. No, he's got some of those.
He's got some of those. And

Speaker 7 we're going to look at all options.

Speaker 7 We're going to take all five visits.

Speaker 1 You know, he's going to be a badger. Has to.
By the way, do you have that stats?

Speaker 7 I mean, my wife went to North Carolina and won national championships. And it's been a blast to learn about their program.

Speaker 7 She shits on me with their stats.

Speaker 7 Their women's soccer national championship streak is one of the most incredible things.

Speaker 3 If you go back to like 1982, maybe even a little bit before that, and then trace it all the way through like 2006 or whatever it was, they won something like 25 out of 27 national championships.

Speaker 7 It is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 It's the best sports dynasty of all time.

Speaker 7 I lose every argument ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but now we have Luke Fickle. I know.

Speaker 7 So we have future national championships lined up.

Speaker 1 We're lined up for future sports.

Speaker 1 25 in a row. What'd you do with the stuffed badger? Because when you opened that gift and you tweeted about it, I looked at it and everyone was like, what the hell? I was like, I want that.

Speaker 1 Dude, how cool is it, right? Yeah, I want to do it.

Speaker 7 And nobody appreciates it, but like Badgers.

Speaker 7 So I sent my wife a picture from the facility when I opened it, and she sent one message back: do not bring that home.

Speaker 7 But I was like, I'm definitely bringing it home. So right now it's sitting in my garage.
I'll take it. Waiting for a home.

Speaker 1 I'll take it.

Speaker 7 No, it's awesome. Yeah.
I know.

Speaker 7 I had been looking, I don't know why I was Googling this like a week earlier. I had literally Googled what is a Badger like as a pet.

Speaker 1 Not good. Not good.
Not good. Probably the worst.

Speaker 3 Very, not good. I would say like a skunk number one.

Speaker 7 Yes, very bad. Not a very bad pet.

Speaker 3 Yeah, did you name it?

Speaker 1 Bucky. Yes, Bucky.

Speaker 3 Okay. That's Bucky also? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's not Nuts Stole. Every Badger? Yeah, every Badger.
Every Badger in the world is nice. Have you actually ever talked to an anomologist? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Every Badger is named Bucky.

Speaker 3 It's like every butler is named Jeeves. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Every badger is named Bucky. Badger in the wild is Bucky.
Okay, got it.

Speaker 3 Just say his name.

Speaker 1 He'll come running to you.

Speaker 3 So now for the hard questions.

Speaker 3 How pumped are you to try smoking weed for the first time?

Speaker 1 Pretty excited.

Speaker 7 Pretty excited. Looking forward to it.
I've got a lot of teammates who are looking forward to that day as well. Yeah.
Throughout my life.

Speaker 1 Throughout my whole career. Throughout my whole career.
Have you never smoked weed? No.

Speaker 7 Shut up. No.
I can't believe it. Yeah.
Throughout my whole career, I always told guys like, yeah, after my career, someday I'll do it. Someday I'll do it.

Speaker 7 Every guy is like, whenever that day is, I will fly there. I will be there.
We're doing it together. So I got to like throw like a massive party or something.

Speaker 1 This is going to be great too because you're going to be the guy who smokes weed for the first time being like, I think think I have a heart attack.

Speaker 1 And we won't know if that's going to have to take you to the hospital. Like, oh, shit.

Speaker 3 You're going to get so high.

Speaker 1 I think you have a heart attack. That's how it feels.
No, some people will be like,

Speaker 1 no, that's not.

Speaker 7 Are you guys high right now? Yes.

Speaker 1 All right. Always contact me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should live stream that.

Speaker 7 I know you probably. Oh, yeah, that's probably not going to be good for any future business whatsoever.

Speaker 3 I mean, when you decide to run for president, eventually, they're just going to have that on you.

Speaker 1 It's illegal. It's illegal here.
Yeah, are you running for president?

Speaker 7 I am not. Okay.

Speaker 7 Maybe an exploratory committee. I don't know.

Speaker 3 Larry Fitzgerald hasn't been like, here's how you run for office because I'm sure that dude's going to be a senator soon. Has to be.

Speaker 7 Has to be. He absolutely runs this place deservedly so.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but no, it's no for politics for you right now.

Speaker 1 Correct. Well, he's only 30.

Speaker 7 It's a no-win. I mean, it's a no-win.

Speaker 1 Well, unless you win.

Speaker 7 Yeah, then. Yeah, but then you still lose.
It's not fun.

Speaker 7 Who the hell wants that job?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So that's why I think you should have it because I think anybody that wants to be president or wants to be a politician, that should automatically disqualify you.

Speaker 1 disqualify you from that. That's a good yeah.

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Speaker 1 Who's the iciest to us in your family? Is there any still residual anger about the, oh, hey, JJ period of pardon my take?

Speaker 7 The legitimate probably would probably be my grandma. Yeah.
Yeah. It's probably my grandma just because she is the one who was like, what are these people doing?

Speaker 7 Why are all these people saying these things to you?

Speaker 7 Because everybody else has kind of moved past. I mean, it is wild.
And I've told you guys multiple times. Like it called me out on some shit that I probably need to be called out on.

Speaker 7 And it kind of changed the way that I attack some things. And maybe I let it get to me.
too much at times, I'm sure, but it,

Speaker 7 I mean, I like it.

Speaker 1 It's a success story because I do think, and we were probably very mean. Hanks thinks we should have never let up.

Speaker 1 That's his biggest critique. He thinks we should.

Speaker 7 Well, he also claims like three Super Bowl trophies that he had.

Speaker 7 Personally,

Speaker 1 but he doesn't understand. Like, I remember

Speaker 1 you did kind of change. Like, you weren't.
Yeah. There was a moment where it was maybe like, oh, there's a little, it was the hard knocks.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah. The good ass dude speech, all that.

Speaker 1 Right. And then from that moment on, like, you changed.
And it's like, whenever someone says, like, what's like, dude, he's a really really nice guy. He's well-intentioned.
It's not like a bad thing.

Speaker 1 He just, you know.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I was trying too hard. I was just trying too hard.
And I thought

Speaker 7 that's what I was supposed to do on the rise. Like when you, as you get more notoriety, as I'd never done it before, I didn't know.

Speaker 7 I was just trying to be the person, like the fucking Captain America that I thought you were supposed to be. Right.

Speaker 7 When I didn't really, like, I wasn't secure enough in myself to be like, if you're just you.

Speaker 3 That's fine.

Speaker 1 And that's the beauty because I think as sports fans, like all we want is the authentic from people.

Speaker 1 And when it's authentically jj is like yeah he's just a really fucking good guy and like that's authentically it's like you root for guys like that you know what i mean like you want guys like that to succeed thank you and go to the hall of fame i don't think like your heart was always in the right place ironically but

Speaker 3 but like you were it's not it's not anything bad to be like i want to be a good role model for christ yeah like you were trying to do the right thing it was just like something that there's no way that you can be prepared to deal with all that fame like i always think anybody that gets that level of fame when they're you know 21 22, 23 years old, it's going to fuck with them a little bit.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Like having millions of people have an opinion on you, no matter what you do.
Right. So yeah, you were trying to do the best you could.
We were trying to do the best you could.

Speaker 1 We were dicks. But then it all worked itself out.

Speaker 3 We grew up too.

Speaker 3 Our little Grinch's hearts, they grew through size.

Speaker 1 Except for Hank. Except for Hanks.

Speaker 1 Which is okay. Yeah, he still hates you.
Yeah, he hates your guts.

Speaker 7 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's great.

Speaker 1 When we have to have that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I texted him.

Speaker 1 I was like, yeah, JJ's going to come by. It'd be a great interview.
First interview he's doing after he retires. And Hank was like, pass.

Speaker 3 Hank was like, yeah, can we maybe run that sometime this summer?

Speaker 1 We'll hang on to it for a while.

Speaker 7 We can all grow, Hank.

Speaker 1 We can all grow.

Speaker 1 Nothing they're saying is true. Yeah, no talk in the mic.

Speaker 3 If I can change and you can change.

Speaker 1 No, we all can change. You need haters.

Speaker 7 Because once you start to get everybody on your side, that's when then people are like, ah, this isn't cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We don't like it.

Speaker 6 I just like how you guys are turning you guys coming at JJ and that was all me.

Speaker 1 Well, we changed. We all changed it.
JJ, PFT, and I all changed together. It's called growth.
And we became better people. We came, we like, we met JJ in the middle.
He was Captain America.

Speaker 1 We were like the biggest troll dickheads in the world. And then we found a common ground of like, hey, maybe we're all decent guys except you, Hank.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, listen, maybe I troll a little bit too hard, but JJ said something. He walked in.
I've been thinking about it. He's like, I hope you win with 99.

Speaker 6 And I think I'm just going to ride with 99.

Speaker 1 For the lottery, he's not going to win, though. That's the thing.
Yeah, he's not going to win.

Speaker 1 No, he's going to win. We're going to win.
No, he's not. No, he's not.
No, he's not.

Speaker 3 He's going to win. Yes, I will.

Speaker 1 Wow. So if you win with 99, then you have to give all all the credit to JJ.
Yeah. That's

Speaker 1 it. That's gonna be tough.
That's gonna be tough.

Speaker 1 Now I'm rooting for it.

Speaker 3 We think that the reason why he still hates you and he can't let go of it

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 3 because of that playoff game

Speaker 3 where Arian Foster designed those Letterman jackets and you guys all wore them up there and then you got the shit kicked out of you by the Patriots.

Speaker 7 But hankering. But why would you be mad about that? You got the shit kicked out of us, dude.
Yeah. I know.

Speaker 6 I'm not.

Speaker 7 No, people still bring me up with like, ha ha ha, you're a stupid Letterman jacket. And I'm like, yeah, we fucking got crushed.

Speaker 7 Like, the joke was on us. Like, we took the L.

Speaker 1 What do you want?

Speaker 3 Whose idea was it, actually?

Speaker 7 It was a couple defensive guys.

Speaker 7 It was Connor Byron and Sean Cody,

Speaker 7 two guys, really, really good locker room guys. Really with their hearts in the right place, trying to do something, team, trying to do something together.
And just very, very big backfire.

Speaker 1 Very good. They walk off the bus with those and then get crushed.

Speaker 7 No, no, just get crushed. Not good.

Speaker 3 Not good. It is kind of cool though that Bill O'Brien's going to be up in New England because I always thought

Speaker 3 he gets an unfair shake for how things turned out in Houston. I think Bill O'Brien, the general manager, we need to separate that from Bill O'Brien, the head coach.

Speaker 3 And as an exes and O's guy, I think he's got a pretty good proven track record. That's very true.

Speaker 3 He got the Texans, I think it was like 54 and 48 record over the course of his whatever, 10 years or however long that was, got to the playoffs a bunch.

Speaker 3 Like, that's pretty good for the Houston Texans franchise. And I feel like he's actually going to be a a pretty good addition to New England.

Speaker 3 So, Hank will have to start thawing out that icy heart when it comes to former Texans.

Speaker 1 No, that's fair. That's fair.
So, I got a question I asked Eli Manning when he was on. Okay.
I hope that you answer this the way I want you to.

Speaker 1 My idea has always been that every college should get one alumni can play on the team after they retire, whatever. So, Tebow could still be playing for four.

Speaker 1 If that were the case, would you play one year for the Badgers and just dominate? Yes. I mean,

Speaker 1 how much would you dominate?

Speaker 7 That's a great question. It'd be fascinating.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 7 I think it'd be pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, it'd be like playing on rocks.
I think I'd be pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How fun would that be?

Speaker 7 It's partially just the knowledge because, like, in college, the kids still have classes. They still have all this stuff going on and they're still young.
And so the schemes can't be as complicated.

Speaker 7 They can't be as like crazy as the NFL, where it's literally you're studying it all day, every day.

Speaker 7 So there's stuff where like you would just know before the play what's happening and you just go wreck shop.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Is there a player that you've gone up against where, like, the first couple reps of the game, he just eats your lunch, just like puts you into the turf.

Speaker 3 He feels way stronger, way better than you, and that you change something up over the course of that game. You're like, I think I can get past this guy if I do X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 3 Because it seems to me where if I was a defensive player and I got just destroyed the first play of the game by the guy I'm going to be facing up against all game, that would be like, I can't beat this guy immediately, but you have to move on from that somehow.

Speaker 3 So, is there a guy that started out against you like that?

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 So, I think that one of the guys that does that very well is Trent Williams.

Speaker 7 Trent does, he has some tricks and things to his game that are just very, very smart, very vet savvy, like things that he can do.

Speaker 7 One of his biggest things that he does is like, when you fire off the ball, his defensive line, you fire off with your hands. And he'll just knock your hands down and you'll fall flat on your face.

Speaker 7 And it's not like the most impressive physical feat ever. It's just, he just knocked you down, but man, you feel like a bitch.

Speaker 7 And so like, so then you get up up after that and you're like i just looked like an idiot did the announcers on tv just say like look at this guy face first in the dirt like trent williams is a beast and like so you're kind of thinking about that but then you have to like throughout the course of the game combat that and you have to know what he's doing and you have to like flash your hands and get him to try and then you power into him or you have to you have to uh i did it to him one time like you just kind of like play this game back and forth and that's When you're at the elite of the elite and you're playing against the top of the top, those are the level of mind games that you're playing.

Speaker 7 Like, all right, he knows that last pass rush i went with the bull rush so he might try and knock this bull rush down if i do it again so if i flash my hand he's going to try and knock it down which means then i have it's like chess where you're like okay if they move rook to this and i'm it's it's fun and that's when it's really fun so what defensive lineman that you either played at the same time or watched growing up that you like

Speaker 1 maybe a move that they had that you always tried to do that you couldn't do like von miller's ghost move or something like that reggie weiss hump reggie weiss hump move is one of the coolest, most dominant moves of all time.

Speaker 7 I can't do it.

Speaker 7 Like, you have to have this unbelievable ability to take all of your weight as fast as you can up the field, slam on the brakes on one foot while also simultaneously throwing a 310-pound offensive lineman and then coming back under.

Speaker 7 Like, the way Reggie did it and the just...

Speaker 7 efficiency he did it with was one of the coolest things of all time. He just tossed dudes.
Just tossed dudes.

Speaker 7 And he just got them to use their own momentum against themselves, but he could do it because of the athlete he was with how hard he could stop on one foot where a lot of people just can't put all that weight into one foot.

Speaker 1 And it's crazy. That's the part of the game that's always fascinating because back to Trent Williams, like when we asked people,

Speaker 1 we were watching games with Kyle Long a couple weeks ago. We're like, what is it that Trent Williams? He's like, it's all his feet.

Speaker 1 And you don't think about that because you think of strength and you think of speed. He's like, his feet, his balance is always at the right spot.

Speaker 1 And those little pieces, like you saying, Reggie White, it's the ability to stop that really makes that move.

Speaker 7 Transathleticism is insane. Like, you watch him move in space.
You watch him on a pull when he comes around the edge. Like, it's incredible.
You watch Lane Johnson, very similar.

Speaker 7 Like, guy is so athletic, so fast. I mean, he's been known to get out of his stance extremely fast.

Speaker 1 Not cheating, though. No, no, if they don't call it, it's not cheating.

Speaker 7 That's the way it works. But he's so fast, and then he beats you to that spot so quickly.
So you immediately have to change your entire pass rush plan because he's already where you want to be.

Speaker 7 So now you've got to be like, all right, if I go underneath, but he's so fast, he changes direction. So it's those games that are a blast to play.
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 Is there a move that should be named after you?

Speaker 7 I bet if you asked guys,

Speaker 7 the move that should be named after me isn't even a sack, it's more for tackles for loss. Like it's this little backdoor swim that I do.

Speaker 7 I jab down really hard in the run game when I know that they're going this way because they're going to overcommit to me.

Speaker 7 And then I swim backside and I can plant my foot in the ground and fly down the line and make the TFL.

Speaker 7 It's something that is frowned upon because it's very difficult, but

Speaker 7 when you're able to do it, it's so successful. So Wade Phillips, my first year in the league, he yelled at me the first three times I ever did it.

Speaker 7 I made TFLs in practice all three times, and he yelled at me. He said, don't ever do that again.
I got another TFL. Don't ever do that again.

Speaker 7 Third time, he stopped the whole thing and he looked at the whole defense and he said, nobody's allowed to do this but JJ Ken.

Speaker 7 It was the coolest thing ever. It's great.

Speaker 1 I was going to say your other move would be like a wrestler with the razor blade just cutting your nose before the game.

Speaker 7 So everyone's like, I should have kept that going.

Speaker 1 I really should have kept that going.

Speaker 3 You were the most bloody player in the NFL by a significant margin for a couple of years there.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I had a helmet that just battered the shit out of my nose.

Speaker 1 It looked badass.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was cool. It hurt like a bitch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it hurt.

Speaker 7 But it did look cool.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 3 So the JJ, it sounds like the play is just

Speaker 3 you figured out a way to run around an offensive tackle in like three steps. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 That's pretty cool.

Speaker 7 We'll come back on the end of And the best plays in football are when you can get a guy to do something that you want him to do and use his own momentum against him.

Speaker 7 So for me, that first jab was getting him to think I'm going down. So he's like, shit, I got to catch up.
So he flies down, and now he's out of my way.

Speaker 7 Now all I got to do is take that step back and go. Same with

Speaker 7 anything else. Same with Reggie White's hunt move.
He's trying to get all the offensive lineman's momentum to go this way, thinking he's running a speed rush.

Speaker 7 And then all Reggie does is give him this little arm, and he can throw him 10 yards. I mean, that play in the Super Bowl against the Patriots, where he threw the guy 10 yards.

Speaker 7 All he did was use his own momentum against him.

Speaker 7 That's football. A receiver is trying to get a DB to think he's running deep, throw him by, and then stop for a comeback.

Speaker 3 So you're definitely an all-time great student of the game. Is your brother better than you?

Speaker 1 Ooh. At football.

Speaker 3 At football. At playing football.

Speaker 1 I believe. Let me talk about Derek.

Speaker 7 Derek's a great football player.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he is. Fullbacks matter.
Football player.

Speaker 7 They do. He scored a touchdown that last game.
I mean, I keep, I'm like, why don't you use a fullback more?

Speaker 1 That's the other reason why he hates you. I sent you that clip.
I mean, that was just

Speaker 1 a little bit of a shit. Oh, yeah.
No, we had a great, great laugh about it, which was just

Speaker 1 phenomenal. Derek Watts.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Dude, what a moment. What a crazy ass moment.
Yeah. But TJ,

Speaker 7 so TJ, if he if he stays healthy and I hope he stays healthy and I hope he does, he'll break every record I got and he'll absolutely be a better player than me. There's no doubt.

Speaker 7 For a single season, for a single, like being able to do everything,

Speaker 7 I won't give up that title.

Speaker 1 Okay, no. You could always just throw a nut at him, too.

Speaker 1 Throw what? A nut on an actual nut. Oh, yeah.
I almost killed him last Super Bowl week.

Speaker 3 It was bad. Big Cat was like, so

Speaker 1 we heard your wild sentence there. Because it didn't really.
Yeah, I mean, just

Speaker 1 like when you said my wife at the time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's like, we heard that you're allergic to tree nuts, so I got you this bag. And Big Cat thought that he was being clever

Speaker 3 because the bag was filled with almonds, but Big Cat thought that a tree nut was a separate cream.

Speaker 1 It came from an almond It was a tree. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then he was like, so I've got this bag here. I'm just going to throw this bag of almonds at him.
I was like, wait, I'm pretty sure that an almond is a tree nut.

Speaker 1 If you asked me beforehand, I've been like, where do almonds come from? It's like, I don't know. You just pick them up off the ground.

Speaker 7 No idea.

Speaker 1 No idea. Yeah.
And he was like, yeah, that would kill me.

Speaker 3 I think your grandmother probably would have killed us if we had killed him and then almost bullied you off the internet.

Speaker 7 No, you can't be blamed. because TJ doesn't even know half of the tree nuts.

Speaker 1 Okay, good. So we were in Italy.

Speaker 7 I took, like, after I got my, signed my big contract, one of my first offseason after that, I said, I'm gonna take my brothers on a trip. So I took him on a trip all around Europe.

Speaker 7 We were in Italy by the Pantheon, and Tiju ordered pesto. I didn't know.
He didn't know. Nobody knows.
Pesto has nuts in it. Yes.
So TJ literally stops breathing. He literally cannot breathe.

Speaker 7 And we leave, I throw cash on the table. We sprint out.
There's a line of taxis waiting. I'm banging on a taxis window, like, take us to the hospital, take us to the hospital.

Speaker 7 They don't speak English. Finally, we get a taxi to take us to the hospital.
It's an Italian hospital. Nobody speaks English.
They take him in a back room and won't let me come.

Speaker 7 So me and Derek are sitting in the waiting room of a hospital in Italy for an hour straight, not having any clue if TJ's alive, dead. He wasn't breathing when he went in.

Speaker 7 And it was fucking crazy, dude. It was the scariest shit of all time.
And all they did was ask him if he had an EpiPen, and then they gave him his EpiPen.

Speaker 1 And I was like, you idiot. We could have done nothing that.

Speaker 7 But none of us knew he'd never had a reaction board. That was the first ever reaction since knowing he had.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. I'd imagine, was it weird? The three Watt brothers walking around Europe? Was everyone looking at you like, who are these people?

Speaker 7 It was interesting. France was wild because the food portions are very small in Paris.
Very small. And so we had to order like nine of everything.

Speaker 7 But we, I mean, again, very meathead fashion, but we would do some of the coolest workouts.

Speaker 7 I mean, all three of us, there was this hotel that overlooked Big Ben in England, and we did workouts in Big Bend. We ran down the Champs-Élysées in Paris, and we were running there.

Speaker 7 We did a workout where we ran around the Coliseum.

Speaker 3 No offense, it sounds like a shitty vacation.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 7 It was, I mean, but then we also went to every pub in Ireland and just got absolutely hammered off Guinness. We went to the Guinness Factory.
Like, we did both. We played hard and we partied hard.

Speaker 1 So, wait, are you going to go to Steelers games this year? Are you going to start being a fan again?

Speaker 7 Absolutely. I'm a huge Steelers fan.

Speaker 1 Are you going to go back to being a Packers fan? No. Okay, good.
No. Yeah, because Aaron Rodgers, we can't.

Speaker 7 You can't do that. No, just for you.

Speaker 1 I'm doing it for you. Yeah, and we got to focus all our energy on the Padgers.

Speaker 7 Yes, we are pouring a lot of energy into it. Luke Fickles, building a monster.
Looking forward to that. But no, Steelers, absolutely.
I'm all in the Steelers. D'Amico now with the Texans.

Speaker 7 Absolutely all in. Obviously, I have a ton of guys here that I love, so the Cardinals I'm watching for sure.

Speaker 7 Okay. It's going to be fun.

Speaker 1 Texans. All right.

Speaker 1 I can support that.

Speaker 1 It is funny, like, when we were talking about our relationship and how, you know, this all evolved, one of the funniest things is being able to, like, text you whenever the Badgers are in just some shit bowl game and like there's not many people watching.

Speaker 1 And it's just like, we're watching. We're watching them play in the Mayo bowl.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, mean they were they were in the bowl game here i was here and i didn't go

Speaker 1 i was thinking about it i was like we got them yeah

Speaker 7 did they try to get you out there like hey no i came out i stopped out at a practice earlier in the week but i was like yeah i'm i'm not it's at a baseball field yeah it was it was against oklahoma state there was like no one playing on baseball is a lot cooler yeah pretty busy that weekend sorry but we got to get you back in yeah we get you to you know some games get you some i'm excited about everyone pumped about the whole program luke fickle building a monster i just keep saying that until it's going to be true i mean he will we have more quarterbacks in the room now than we've had our entire history ever i don't understand i have no clue what's going on scott tollzine not walking through that door we need a new guy dude i just talked to scotty for a long time the other week good name pole have you uh have you heard from cliff since he's been over to thailand so i talked to cliff right after the season i we were i was saying thank you and all that and i appreciate you know he's i love we'll be friends for life um and he said i said something like at the end like i was like we got to get drinks together and he was like as soon as as I'm done with this little world tour, I'll get drinks.

Speaker 7 And I was like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, Cliff, what he's done since he got fired has been maybe the most relatable thing of all time. Yeah.
He got paid how many, like $40, $50 million guaranteed.

Speaker 3 And he's just like, see ya. I'm going to go over to Thailand.
I'm going to hit beaches.

Speaker 3 That's exactly what everybody else would do. Yes.

Speaker 7 Love it. I mean, why wouldn't you? That's the perfect thing.
Like, everybody, I'm going to look for the next thing. Nah, just go do that.

Speaker 1 It's awesome. Football's going to be here.

Speaker 1 So is it going to be tough to like, are you going to try to, I mean, you can't just show up to the facility next year, but like, how are you going to, are you going to try to keep in touch?

Speaker 1 Are you going to play Call of Duty with Kyler Murray or whatever?

Speaker 7 I haven't played video games. So, like, my whole career,

Speaker 7 the only time I ever played video games was when I would be injured and I needed something to take my mind off of what was going on.

Speaker 7 So, I literally don't ever play video games except for when I'm hurt. So, thankfully, hopefully, I'm going to be able to get away.

Speaker 3 Once you start smoking weed, that's going to change.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's going to change.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's going to be awesome. But

Speaker 7 a lot of weeks workouts, a lot more Call of Duty.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Will it be weird, though? Like, not being.
I would assume you'll stay in touch with everyone, but

Speaker 1 next summer, when you're not going to a facility, you got to start thinking about this.

Speaker 7 I've never, I don't know what people do in the month of August. The month of August has literally been training camp for me every single year.
My whole life. We got to get you.

Speaker 1 You got to come watch a full Sunday slate with us.

Speaker 7 Dude, it looks like a blast. As long as I can sit next to Frank, I just want to sit by Frank.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what everyone says. And then they're like, yeah, after one game.

Speaker 7 Frank's New Jersey Devils food reviews are the, they keep me going.

Speaker 7 I just, nothing beats a good food review, and he just dumps salt on everybody.

Speaker 1 We need to make a JJ Watts style video of just, because it's so funny whenever we talk to athletes or anyone, they're just like, yeah, I love watching Frank. Frank's favorite.

Speaker 1 Like, he has the most fans

Speaker 1 of celebrities and athletes, of anyone at Barcelona.

Speaker 7 Oh, and somehow, like, it comes up on my TikTok, and it has like 700 likes. There's not a lot of, like, not a lot of action going on on his TikTok.
Maybe it's on his Twitter, but it pops up in mine.

Speaker 7 I watch the whole video every time, dude. He's a natural.
Some shitty ass brisket sandwich that he had that dude's like stringy, and he's just eating it like it's regular. And so

Speaker 1 this is not good.

Speaker 7 I will not eat this again.

Speaker 7 It's the best, man.

Speaker 1 Did you see him try to make ribs that one time? No.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's the best. He's in like, he's in a courtyard outside his apartment complex.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. And pull the video up.

Speaker 3 And the smoker, or it's not even smoker, it's a grill that the temperature is at like 600 degrees or something. And he puts the ribs down.
He's like, okay now to leave it closed for about 30 minutes

Speaker 1 and then he comes back and it's just this char no yeah he claimed the sun i think he said the sun was too hot the sun was hitting the grill

Speaker 7 oh my gosh

Speaker 1 it's an all-time frank video i'm so glad that you're a frank fan yeah massive frank fan i'm i'm not joking like i when i talk to like People that you would never expect, guys who are in the NFL, in the NBA, everywhere, they're just like, yeah, I love watching Frank.

Speaker 7 Oh, it's because it's so like sincere and real. And just like, you just love him and you're like, it's it's awesome.

Speaker 3 Here we go, Hank's got a lot of fun. The best part is if we when we tell Frank, here we go, yeah, right.

Speaker 7 Can I touch your phone, Hank?

Speaker 1 All right, I was like,

Speaker 1 30 minutes.

Speaker 1 All right, this has been cooking now about 45 minutes.

Speaker 1 And it's cold real. I don't like that.

Speaker 1 It's shut up, what the fuck?

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, he's just dumbfounded.

Speaker 1 He's just staring at it.

Speaker 1 TFT is right when we tell him, like, we'll show him this clip, and he'll be like, okay.

Speaker 3 Yeah. We'll be like, JJ Watts of Big Fenders.

Speaker 1 All right. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sounds good.

Speaker 1 That's so good. He'll be like, yeah,

Speaker 1 he kind of tailed off at the end of his career.

Speaker 1 He'd say it to your face.

Speaker 1 I love it. That's awesome.
Like, injured too much.

Speaker 7 No, it looks like a blast in that room. It has to smell like shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes.

Speaker 3 What was your career like against the Dolphins?

Speaker 1 We.

Speaker 7 that's a good question. I know I've had, I think I had sacks in everybody, I know I've had multiple sacks.
I had two sacks in the game that they had 270 yards rushing against us and beat us 44 to 13.

Speaker 7 That was after Ryan Mallett missed the team plane. So that's all I remember about that game.

Speaker 3 He'll probably just be like, yeah, you couldn't stop the run against us. He'll just bring that up.

Speaker 7 Oh, 1,000%. Lamar Miller had like a 98-yard touchdown run.

Speaker 3 And I'll bet Frank remembers it so the day Ryan Mallett missed the plane we Ryan Mallet to us is an all-time what could have been guy because his arm how sweet was Ryan Mallett's arm unbelievable he threw me a touchdown I caught a touchdown from Ryan Mallet

Speaker 7 it was an insane pass it was one of the best it was dropped in the bucket perfectly he just was too tired he was a sleepy guy yeah yeah

Speaker 1 his arm was insane I mean that guy could wing the shit out of the ball yeah I remember when he was at Michigan because they were playing I think I went to the big house and I was like what the fuck this guy's just got a can And he's huge.

Speaker 7 I mean, he's tall as shit. Yeah.
He's very skinny, but very tall.

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Speaker 1 This is a tough question, and I don't even want to ask it, but I'm going to ask it because we've had a history where we've mended our ways.

Speaker 7 Oh, I know where this is going, I think.

Speaker 1 Taylor and Will. How can we mend this? They were here earlier.
I told them he'd scramble and they listen because they're scared of it.

Speaker 7 I think they might have worked out at Exos this morning.

Speaker 1 My wife was up there working out. Oh.

Speaker 7 I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 7 I've never met Will to my knowledge. I don't know anything about Will.
I mean, I have no problems with Will, obviously. I mean, Taylor and I have had our beefs on the field.

Speaker 7 And, I mean, he literally spit on my brother.

Speaker 1 Yeah, oh, okay. That's the part that he doesn't tell me.
He left that part out.

Speaker 7 No, he said it in his tweet. He said, like, he said, TJ, like, I've spit on you before.
I've

Speaker 7 said some things.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, I'm on your side. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 7 When you spit on a family member, it gets a little different.

Speaker 1 We never did that. Just for the record shows.

Speaker 3 Wait, I tried to kill him with nuts, but so he spit on your brother, and then he stalked your wife at the gym.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm on your side. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Glad we cleared that up. I'm trying, Bustin.

Speaker 1 No, they are good guys. I assume at some point it will settle down and you can go hang out with them.
Will is a very, very good guy. Yeah, Taylor is.

Speaker 7 I'm sad that he's not getting your 10. I think you should get your 10.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he got screwed at the NFL doesn't.

Speaker 7 I mean, it's because of gambling. Like, I mean, who are we kidding here? Right.
Like, who are we kidding here? Right.

Speaker 7 That's a whole other question.

Speaker 1 I think he's too good at gambling.

Speaker 1 Is he good at it? I don't know. Is he good?

Speaker 3 No. That's what he should go with.

Speaker 1 He's too good at gambling. I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 You guys are good at it, too. Every stadium has a sports book in it.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 We do have it.

Speaker 7 You can take money, we can't.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, but yeah.
No, Taylor's a good guy, too. But yeah, he shouldn't have said that, brother.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm sure.
I bonded with him over drinking and puking in a trash can together. Nice.
He's

Speaker 1 mean well. What were you drinking?

Speaker 1 It was actually Jungle Juice, so it was bad. It was bad.
It was really bad. It was disgusting.

Speaker 1 But yeah, this has been awesome, man. We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 You should. So we're building a whole new office in Chicago, and we have like a big basketball court that we're going to have in the middle of it.

Speaker 7 Actually, you're... You guys are both moving to Chicago?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're moving the whole operation. It's kind of like your buddy's dude perfect.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But we'll have to to have you come out because I saw a tweet that you were 50% from the line in high school basketball.

Speaker 7 I mean, at best.

Speaker 1 I could dunk.

Speaker 1 I could foul.

Speaker 7 I could dunk, and I could rebound. I mean, I was not doing shit elsewhere.
That's awesome.

Speaker 7 I don't know if you like, there was a clip going around a couple weeks ago of me playing, and it was the first time I had seen it.

Speaker 7 And I was like, Jesus, dude, that is the ultimate, like, scrappy grinder sucks ass at basketball.

Speaker 3 I think the caption was like, J.J. Watt playing basketball is exactly what I saw.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And it was to a T perfect.

Speaker 7 No jump shots whatsoever.

Speaker 1 It's like put your ass into people, boxing them out. So we'll get you to come up and we'll have you shoot 100 free throws.
Oh, that would be fine. I'll do it.
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 What's the over-under?

Speaker 7 It's got to be 50. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's got to be 50.

Speaker 3 I'm going to take the under.

Speaker 1 I'll take just pure fatigue. I think I would take the under.

Speaker 7 I mean, I'm just going to start. That's a shit.

Speaker 1 You're going to be fat by then.

Speaker 3 You're not going to be working out. What if you get real fat?

Speaker 1 That would be hilarious.

Speaker 3 It'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 That would suck. Then you'd have to move back to Wisconsin.

Speaker 7 You guys look good, by the way. Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 I got Super Bowl abs. Can you see?

Speaker 7 I was the Super Bowl abs. I heard it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there they they are.

Speaker 1 They are. They're doing real nice.
Really nice. Photoshop that? Yeah.
Really nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wait till you, what will happen, and I will say this, that once your son eats real food,

Speaker 1 I eat all,

Speaker 1 my kids, I just eat everything they eat. I eat it before they can even eat it.

Speaker 7 I mean, when you smoke weed and then you have kids' food.

Speaker 1 My kids will just be sitting down for dinner and there'll be like a pizza and I'll be like, you're going to eat that? And I'll eat it before they can even have a bite.

Speaker 7 How many of the donuts do you eat every week?

Speaker 1 I usually have like

Speaker 1 two. I was going to say one and a half, but that was a lie.

Speaker 7 That is impressive. Yeah, I mean have you ever seen that like meme though where it says like this many donuts are in a Coke? Yeah.
And then you make you feel way better by eating a donut.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And it's also like me and my son go and get the donuts and he loves it.
And he points, he puts it. He calls being a good dad.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And there's, there's like a whole tray of them and he goes every single time, he goes and just sticks his finger into like a random donut. And I'm like, don't like pretend we didn't do that.

Speaker 1 Scar, scurry him away.

Speaker 7 If you have a son, you just put anything on your son. Like I'm like, we have a group chat with all my buddies and everything, and they're like, you didn't text back in in eight hours.

Speaker 7 I'm like, well, I'm sorry. I have family.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, right, exactly. So it's a perfect, perfect fall guy.
You basically sun to fall guy. Yes, perfect.
It was him. It was him.
But yeah, that would be funny if you got fat.

Speaker 7 It would be funny. I agree.
That would suck.

Speaker 1 Do it for like... I don't want to.
Do it for like a year.

Speaker 7 You've never been fat. I tried for 10 days.
I tried for 10 years. Yeah, 10 days.

Speaker 1 But think about it.

Speaker 3 Your entire life,

Speaker 3 you've been in great shape.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much. We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 And yeah, anytime you want to come on, you're recurring guests. And we'll be at your Hall of Fame.
Yep. Not Hank, though.
Congrats. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Maybe if he gets 99.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. He won't.
He'll never get it. He'll never get it.

Speaker 1 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Guys on chicks, Super Bowl Edition, Super Bowl week. We have, by the way, on Friday's show, we're going to have a participant in this year's Super Bowl on the show.

Speaker 1 And also a little bit of an interesting, different type of interview with a special extra interviewer. So get excited.
Friday Friday show. We're going to do all of our props.

Speaker 1 We'll do, let's just say right now, I think everyone should come loaded with like four props. I've got Papa Palooza.

Speaker 3 I've got one.

Speaker 1 I'm doing no props. You're doing props.
I can't do props. You're doing props.

Speaker 3 Give me one prop.

Speaker 1 Eagles to win. Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 Tears. Tears.

Speaker 5 Over in tears. Yeah.

Speaker 3 How about find out?

Speaker 3 We can ask the guy that we're about to interview. Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we'll talk about that. We'll talk about that.
Yep. Props.

Speaker 5 Hi, PMT crew. I'm going to my first Super Bowl party at my boyfriend's family's house.
They are huge Eagles fans.

Speaker 5 The only problem is that I don't know much about the Eagles, and I haven't watched any of their games this year.

Speaker 5 When I would go to my boyfriend's apartment on Sundays, he would make fun of me because I would be napping by halftime.

Speaker 5 What's something I should say about the Eagles that sound like I actually watch the games?

Speaker 3 In this type of scenario, I feel like you can't pretend. They'll sniff you out immediately.

Speaker 3 It's like in an avatar when they showed up at the other avatar's places and they're they're like, this human is not from amongst us.

Speaker 3 They'll know immediately. So you just have to show up and

Speaker 3 be prepared to see some things that you will probably never be able to get out of your mind for the rest of your life. But just know that

Speaker 3 this game is like international waters. You can't hold anything that his family does during the Super Bowl against him for the rest of your dating life.

Speaker 1 Yes, I also think this is...

Speaker 1 So Super Bowl, everyone loves it. Everyone gets involved.
Squares, some people call it boxes. You can do that if you have at least 10 people.
And I think they probably have a party of 10 people.

Speaker 1 It's very easy. You're probably saying, don't you need 100 squares, 100 boxes? No.
You get zero through nine, put it in a hat, everyone pitches in. You can go halftime and full game.
And you just, so

Speaker 1 say you get the number five. It's you adding both scores.

Speaker 7 But don't do too.

Speaker 5 Don't care too much about the squares.

Speaker 1 Yes. No, I know, but I'm saying like this is a fun way.
If you maybe host the squares, because if they're not thinking about it, you can be like, hey, everyone want to throw in 20 bucks?

Speaker 1 We'll have some fun. So it's very easy.
So if you have the number five and at halftime, it is 18 to 17, the number five wins because it's eight plus seven.

Speaker 5 But if the chiefs score and

Speaker 3 you get a square, no, you can't.

Speaker 1 So that's actually a good point because this is actually a rule for squares and boxes in general. Don't be the person rooting for that on every score.
You have to wait.

Speaker 1 Like, it's more of a at the end of the quarter, be like, oh, shoot, I got the number. Don't when it's 3-0 two minutes into the game, don't be like, oh, I hope the score stays 3-0.
That's my number.

Speaker 3 Because everybody else in the room is also betting on this, too. So everyone could be having that conversation, but you're the only one choosing.

Speaker 5 You guys are forgetting that this is a huge house of egos.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 I know this. I know this atmosphere, and

Speaker 7 the squares have to be like so minimal because because no.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, I was saying if she doesn't like follow, she can just host it for 20 bucks

Speaker 1 and just be like, hey, everyone wants to do this, fun. Yeah, that's right.
Right, yeah, that's good. Right, because then you've participated in the party.
Right.

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't, and maybe don't even, like, if you win, just be like, don't even say anything.

Speaker 3 No, I think your role is basically to be like an emotional support.

Speaker 3 girlfriend to your boyfriend at this game because your boyfriend is going to be dealing with anxiety he's going to be dealing with like sheer explosive bouts of happiness possibly dark depression, all in the same like 15 minute period.

Speaker 3 So your job is basically to like see your boyfriend, how they're reacting, and to make sure that he doesn't do anything totally stupid.

Speaker 5 Just mimic what your, what your boyfriend has.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just be a mirror. Maybe rub his back to you, but mimic it to 50%.

Speaker 1 Yes. Because you don't, like, if he's going crazy, you don't go crazy, you go 50% of that.

Speaker 5 Yeah. You just show, if it's something bad has happened, you show your displeasure without like really getting in your face.

Speaker 5 But it's like, let me, let them have the moment, but like, it's be supportive of their moment.

Speaker 1 Also, just as a rule, don't like everything you see us do on a live stream, do the opposite.

Speaker 1 Because I'm thinking about, like, if I were invited to a big Eagles, if I had no, no money on the game and I was invited to a big Eagles party and like the Eagles lost, I would definitely be like, well, can't they win the game next week?

Speaker 1 Just to fuck with everyone? Don't do that. Don't do that.
Don't do that. Don't be like, well, at the Super Bowl, they have these every Sunday, right? Don't do that.

Speaker 5 Specifically, you, because you're the worst.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's. Well, because, I mean, it's just that those moments when you have like extreme tension in a room, being the guy to puncture the balloon is a thrill.

Speaker 1 But don't do that.

Speaker 3 I think you should show up and you should have a bunch of songs written anytime the Eagles screw something up and you should sing those very loudly and you should talk about what a bad gambler you are and how even when maybe the Chiefs score a touch and be like, I'm never going to win my bet and make it all about you in that situation.

Speaker 3 I think that would be a big hit.

Speaker 1 Don't do that.

Speaker 3 Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Hello, big daddy cat, PF Mr. T, Corporate Henry, Billy McFootball, and always professional Jake.
I just recently started dating this guy, and I invited him to come watch the Super Bowl with my family.

Speaker 5 He said yes, of course, but should I cut him some slack

Speaker 5 if he wants and goes to a Super Bowl party with his friends?

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 I actually think Super Bowl party, well, Super Bowl parties are kind of not overrated, but like I don't think it's one of those ones that you have to, like, if you got invited, if you like this girl,

Speaker 1 I would go to that because at the end of the day, you're just watching the game. You know what I mean? The party aspect is really who just has the best food, is kind of what you decide.

Speaker 5 And if your team's not in it, it's not like you need to be sweating this game out with your friends. It's more of a social gathering.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.

Speaker 3 I'm going to choose to answer this question as Billy because she did address Billy. So here's what Billy's advice.

Speaker 6 Like,

Speaker 3 brokey, you should just bros before hose. Yeah.
Like, it's kind of messed up.

Speaker 3 Girls think that they can invite you to their family and make you watch the Super Bowl with them, but it's meant to be an XY chromosome game. And so just hang out with boys.

Speaker 3 Just like get the boys together. Like, why are women always trying to make me not be a boy? That was Billy Football.
That was Billy Football.

Speaker 1 Good job. Great job.

Speaker 5 Hi, hardbody PMT gang. Congrats on the Super Bowl abs.
My husband and I have been married for four years, and I'm wondering if it's normal for boys to take baths.

Speaker 5 My husband has never never done this before, but it started to over the last couple months. When I ask why, he says it is for recovery.

Speaker 5 Mind you, these baths are not ice baths, and he works a desk job. Yeah, he also won't tell me what he does while he's in there.
He jacks off.

Speaker 1 He takes his phone, he's jacking off the iPad and locks the door.

Speaker 1 Phone and iPad? He takes his T and

Speaker 1 then he's jerking off.

Speaker 3 He's jacking off in 3D.

Speaker 1 He's got two screens

Speaker 5 and locks the door for around 45 minutes a couple times a week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What is he doing?

Speaker 1 He's shitting, bathing, jerking off, then maybe finishing with a shower.

Speaker 3 Maybe all four at the same time. That's the grand slam.

Speaker 1 That actually, I'm going to defend him. That is recovery.
To lock the bathroom door and just be like, don't come fucking bother me.

Speaker 3 I mean, you should be able to do this too. Like, you should take your own baths.
Just go in there, lock the door.

Speaker 1 Baths are off.

Speaker 3 Bring the electric toothbrush.

Speaker 5 No, baths are fantastic. A good bathtub.

Speaker 1 Okay. I agree.

Speaker 3 If you get a big bathtub,

Speaker 3 it's a lifestyle thing. You'd instantly relax.
I'll take an ice bath, not an ice bath, but like a cold water bath sometimes if I've just done like strenuous exercise.

Speaker 3 But as far as hot baths go in like a sad small bathtub, they never live up to the hype.

Speaker 1 I'm also a big, I'll do, like, I probably take like three baths a year and they're always at a hotel. I don't know why.
I don't really like taking a bath at home.

Speaker 3 Why wouldn't I just shower? At the hotel, you get the nice tub. Yeah, you got a tub.

Speaker 1 It's a bigger tub. Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 I'm always in favor.

Speaker 3 If you see a giant tub,

Speaker 3 I will find a reason to bathe in it.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 Hi, guys. Special shout out to Big Cat, soon-to-be father of three.

Speaker 1 Congrats.

Speaker 5 My husband listens to your show all the time. You may or may not know that the 25th anniversary of the critically filmed

Speaker 5 critically acclaimed film Titanic is happening this week. First boob.

Speaker 3 Ooh. A lot of people's first boobs.
My first boobs. Really? Yeah.
Remember that segment we used to do for like two weeks?

Speaker 1 What was that my first boob?

Speaker 5 No. It's a thousand percent my first boob.

Speaker 1 It was a big wild thing.

Speaker 3 It was too late for you to have that.

Speaker 3 My first boob was Braveheart, I think.

Speaker 1 Oh, Braveheart would make sense. That probably was

Speaker 1 right around mine.

Speaker 3 That's like 10 years old, something like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Braveheart.

Speaker 5 I also remember the Eagles' first Super Bowl that they lost to the Patriots. I just searched Pamela Anderson boobs in terms of

Speaker 5 safe search off

Speaker 1 of Google Images. Don't watch the documentary because that made me feel bad about watching that movie a lot.
Okay, I watched it. Hamilton's

Speaker 1 yeah, it kind of like ruined her life. And I was like, well, I watched you and Tommy Lee a lot.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 I took down the family computer multiple times with viruses trying to get that movie.

Speaker 5 Those are my first internet boobs.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 remember, yeah, remember when there was just one computer for the entire family? Yeah.

Speaker 3 90s were a wild.

Speaker 1 I'm watching porn on this. Dad's probably watching porn on this.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it just, no, it did become like the family porn hub.

Speaker 1 Exactly. And I remember when we got a virus and my dad was like, what happened? And I'm like, I have no idea.
It was Pamela and Tommy Lee.

Speaker 3 I think most families, when the computer got taken down with a virus, nobody really chose to look too hard into it because they all thought that it could have been them. Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 So it's like, oh, the computer's dead again.

Speaker 3 I got to get another electronic robot to jack off to.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then

Speaker 1 everyone's mom just used the computer to play Solitaire. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Should we finish this or is that enough on this?

Speaker 1 We can go on.

Speaker 1 What was the question? I don't know. Titanic.
We just got to Titanicus.

Speaker 1 Titanic.

Speaker 1 I also saw he got game with my grandmother in the room. That was a that was awesome.
That's awkward. Yeah, that was awkward because that was an awesome scene.

Speaker 1 Those were big boobs. They were massive.

Speaker 1 There were four of them.

Speaker 3 I went to go see Wolf of Wall Street on Christmas Day. This is a few years ago, whenever it came out.
Went into the theater, and in the theater was like two grandchildren with their grandparents.

Speaker 3 Oh, no.

Speaker 3 And the plane scene happened oh and the the grandmother like picked the son up grandfather picked the daughter up they start walking out of the theater and the grandmother was crying that she just exposed her grandchildren to that it felt but again like just do a little bit of research

Speaker 3 also they're gonna have to it's about a guy who went to jail your grandchildren are gonna learn eventually about cocaine and strippers and yeah airplanes and whwf tossing yeah it happens it's part of life yeah wait what was the question though about she basically just got tickets to titanic on super bowl Bowl Sunday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not going to happen.

Speaker 3 Not going to happen to you. Sanita light them on fire.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's bad. That's on you.

Speaker 3 I'm embarrassed that you wrote into our podcast.

Speaker 1 Super Bowl Sunday is not, it's not just because it's Super Bowl Sunday, which is obviously a very big deal, but it's also

Speaker 1 the funeral for the football season. It's the last chance to watch football.
It is. So it's a sad day.
It's a morning day. Monday after Super Bowl is always just one of the most depressing days.

Speaker 1 You're like, now we're as far away from football as we can be.

Speaker 3 Now

Speaker 3 that's when me and Big Cat's bodies usually start to give out on us. It's right after the season.
We start to do stupid stuff. That's where we got arrested at the dog show.
Yep.

Speaker 3 Like first week back because we don't know what to do with ourselves.

Speaker 1 Well, thankfully, we've grown up a little bit and we realized, hey, we could take vacations.

Speaker 3 That's true.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 that is a nice twist that we've put into our brains where it's like, we do deserve maybe

Speaker 1 we're taking three days off.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Credit to Hank for showing us the way on that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank's taking three months off.

Speaker 5 What's up, Potato Chip Cat, Beef FT, Billiam Pigskinneth, and Honk?

Speaker 5 My boyfriend insists on muting the commercials on every sports game we watch, and often muting commentary because he doesn't need to hear extra noise.

Speaker 5 We're hosting a Super Bowl party this year, and he's been a big muter recently.

Speaker 5 Does he have grounds as the host to mute at his discretion? Otherwise, how pissed do you think our guests will be? Yeah,

Speaker 1 you can't do that. You can't mute the commercials.

Speaker 3 You can't do that. I respect the move, though.
That's a big-time grandfather move. My grandfather was elite at muting commercials.

Speaker 3 He'd hit it like before the commercial come on, and then he'd take it off right as it came off, going back. We would watch Braves games, and immediately, boom, mute.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Going into it. Like, that's an old-person move, I think.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to let these advertisers get in my head.

Speaker 7 No, but you can't mute the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 He also said muting some of the commentary sometimes.

Speaker 1 Well, that's Romo.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah.
He probably hates Romo, so count on him for that.

Speaker 5 I do. Like, some of my gym family does like to do the DVR, pause the game a little bit, and then sync up to the radio.

Speaker 1 I like that. I like that.
That's old school. It's old school.

Speaker 3 You get the local broadcast down there.

Speaker 1 My family's big into radio.

Speaker 3 A former player that's kind of drunk on the air. You get a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 I like him doing the commentary. I like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes. One more.
Name, you got one more?

Speaker 3 Okay, wait. Name's just texted to me.

Speaker 3 This one's actually for Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 Dear Dan Cat,

Speaker 1 has

Speaker 3 Hank ever gotten the lottery ball correct?

Speaker 1 He has not. We'll find out because we taped it.
We'll find out if he gets it. He has not gotten it right.
He's not here right now.

Speaker 1 I did have someone ask me at the gym if he has ever gotten it. That makes me chuckle every time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because it's just like, even though Hank wasn't there with me, I know that he feels it.

Speaker 3 That's wild timing that somebody said that to you at the gym.

Speaker 1 At the gym, it was right between reps.

Speaker 3 But you had to make sure that you let people know when you said it to you.

Speaker 1 Full story, it kind of sucks because I was benching and he came up and asked if I needed a spot and I felt like a little bitch. And I was like, no, I'm good, dude.
I'm good.

Speaker 1 Like, I'll die on this bench.

Speaker 5 Congrats on the benching, though.

Speaker 1 Thank you. But it was kind of presumptuous of him to ask if I needed a spot.
And then he followed up with the hate question. But asking another man if they needed a spot.

Speaker 1 I don't think I was struggling with it.

Speaker 3 It's emasculating.

Speaker 1 It really hurt my feelings.

Speaker 5 Remember was on the bar.

Speaker 1 It was like 185. I was doing it fine.
I was not struggling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was not struggling. I think he just wanted to.
He just wanted to talk to me. He wanted to talk to me, but that's not, it hurt my feelings.

Speaker 3 You got to find a better opportunity to, like, in between sets. Be like,

Speaker 3 how many more sets you got? Yeah, right. Oh, and by the way, has Hank ever gotten the lottery ball correctly?

Speaker 1 He's listening to this right now, and I hope you know, Guy.

Speaker 1 We had a nice conversation afterwards. You seem like a nice guy, but I hate your guts.

Speaker 3 If anybody ever offers to spot me at the gym, I'll kill you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yes, I will kill you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So don't even try.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So let's kick it to ourselves in studio to see if Hank is going to win the lottery ball machine, which he never will.

Speaker 1 Okay, end of the show.

Speaker 1 It's still February 3rd. We're still guessing all these numbers.
Hank has still not gotten it. Hank, have you gotten it, actually?

Speaker 1 What? The number.

Speaker 6 Lottery ball machine? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Numbers. 69.
69. 18.
I beat you on that. 17.
I did beat you on that one. 23.

Speaker 5 20.

Speaker 1 I mean, but I beat you on that one. You saw 60.
But I beat you on that one. I beat you on that one.
So what's your number?

Speaker 3 You saw that it almost hit last time.

Speaker 1 96. 96.
Sorry, what was your number, Hank? 17. Oh.

Speaker 3 Interesting. Wait, when did I say?

Speaker 3 Say it again. 23.
I said 23.

Speaker 1 Nine.

Speaker 1 Nine.

Speaker 3 Third time.

Speaker 1 Nine.

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