MNF & Damar Hamlin, NFL With Pete Prisco, 1 Question With Max Duggan & The 2022 Bonk List

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On today's Pardon My Take, we're going to talk about Monday Night Football and what happened in Cincinnati on Monday night with Damar Hamlin. We're breaking up the show a little bit, so the first 10 minutes is just going to be me and PFT, um, talking about what transpired.
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Boy! Boy! Now in the street there is violence. And then I love the soft work to be done.
No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh, we're gonna rock down to here and sky Damar Hamlin, I think everyone saw what transpired. We thought the best way to do this show was to break it up.
So the first 10, 15 minutes will be just me and PFT talking about it. And then we will go back into the studio with everyone else.
and you know before we get into DeMar like I understand

some people don't want to laugh

right now it's a very serious thing

we know what our role is

and to you know give people

a little brevity in their life. Life is not easy.
So we thought this was the best way that we could both talk about a serious thing, but also give everyone something to smile about. Uh, so yeah, Monday night was pretty horrific.
Um, as we're taping this, it's nine 30 on Tuesday.

We, we tried to wait the majority of the day to hopefully get a good update. The last update we've seen is DeMar Hamlin is, you know, in critical conditions still, kind of maybe doing better from some of the reports we've seen.
It's obviously like,

we're not going to get an answer anytime soon. But yeah, it was pretty shocking and tragic to watch.
And we love football. We know that, I think the thing that PFT, you and I, we always, we're huge football fans.
We love football. And we have to admit that our livelihood in this show, a lot of it is based on football and what the sport provides for us.
So to see that, we're not football players, but we care about a lot of guys in the NFL, and the league is important to us. So to see someone collapse and need CPR on the field, it shook me it shook me bad it was scary it was it was really really frightening watching that entire scene play out and and the look on you know I saw Josh Allen's face on the sideline Diggs's face um the players knew almost instantaneously that this was some pretty serious going on and the the sports world kind of came to a stop like nothing nothing else really mattered at that time than making sure he was okay.
Because as sick as it is, like as NFL fans, we do love the NFL. On like a weekly basis, we'll see a player, you know, they break a leg, they tear a ligament, and they, you know, get carted off the field.
And it's sad, and you feel for them, and you think about them. But the show goes on in that moment.
And I think what a lot of people saw last night is like there's a very clear line where it's a cliche to say that things are bigger than sports. This was a moment where sports literally did not matter.
It's like there was a person on the field that was at risk of dying. And according to some reports, may have actually died on the field that they brought back brought back now there's a lot of negative stuff that's going on right now like people are jumping over like skip for some tweets that he had bart scott said some stuff i don't really want to get into any of that because it doesn't really help anything i think that there are some things that we can put a little bit of light on because those other the heavy implications those are self-explanatory but the uh the medical staff at the game did such a good job like it's it's unreal if there are two places that i would want to get severely injured one would be in an emergency room like in the waiting room and then the second would be like on the field at an nfl game because within like 30 seconds they have world-class doctors on the field that were provide they were giving c them.
And that might have been the difference. We don't know what's going to happen, obviously, but that might have been the difference between life and death.
It really is like a credit to modern science and the doctors to be able to be there right away and the tools that we have. And to say something about the negative stuff, I agree with you.
I think being on the internet for as long as we've been on the internet, you start to realize a trend that when something tragic happens, people can't just feel grief. They have to feel anger.
So it quickly just devolves from, this is a terrible thing that happened and we should all feel sad and and and you know kind of put it into perspective right to who said something dumb let's jump down their throat and it we're not going to like litigate their everyone's tweets but i just i've noticed that on the internet that people just can't comprehend the the really tragic thing that happened so they're like well what else I do? I can be really angry online and go after people and it doesn't really help anyone. I, you know, Ryan Clark said it best and the whole scene was so crazy to watch because it's, you know, Booger and Schefter and Susie Colbert were put in an impossible spot to basically carry a live broadcast.
You saw Booger was very shaken up and he did an outstanding job. Then they went to Scott Van Pelt and Ryan Clark and Ryan Clark said it best.
He was just like, this is the dark side of the NFL that we don't, you know, as players don't, we try not to think about it, that, that this does exist, like tragic injuries and, and really life altering things. You know, Ryan Shazier on that same field can happen and you try to like not not think about it and it's a lot of young guys chasing their dream and he was saying like I love football more than anything besides my my kids and so it's not like uh football is at fault it's that this is just really really sad and it hopefully takes for the better because, you know, DeMar Hamlin loved football and he was chasing his dream.
And to have that happen in a freak accident, um, it's just, you just really, really hope that everything turns out. And you, you said it exactly right.
Like the, the bills players, like the players always know before, and you knew right away that it was something different when you saw their faces and And you saw of them crying and you saw like even that the five minute warm-up which we can talk about but like josh was just looking out blank face out on the field and you're like this is not they can't play it's not normal they can't play this game yeah and and i know that people i mean the in the moment uh we're all sitting on our couch and and we see that you can't play the game. I do think there's two things happening.
NFL clearly obviously doesn't really care. They've never prioritized player safety.
They say they do, but they don't. But I do think that – They prioritize player safety insofar as to the point where it starts to cost them money.
Right, right. And I five minute warning thing that every warm-up thing that everyone was is really like hung up on i thinking about it today like i don't i don't know if it came from the refs i don't know i think what happened in an in a truly human moment is we've seen really bad things happen on a football field ryan chazier being like you know an example an example.
An ambulance takes someone away and then you go on as normal. And so I think a lot of it was almost like reflex, like this is what we do.
You go on the ambulance and then we start the game back up. And then, you know, Sean McDermott and Zach Taylor, credit to them and whichever players spoke up being like, this is not normal.
We should not play this.

And they made the right decision in the end.

So I think that if it took a little too long, you can argue that.

But at the end of the day, they didn't play the game.

And it's probably credit to the players and the coaches, not the league.

But it's still, I'm happy that they were able to get to that conclusion

because I think it would have been very wrong to continue that game.

Yeah, they made the right decision.

And according to all the reporting that I've seen, and we saw it,

I'm going to go ahead and get some more information. conclusion because I think it would have been very wrong to continue that game yeah they made the right decision and according to all the reporting that I've seen and we saw it when it was happening live I think we all reacted to it in the moment where they make the announcement Joe Buck said I think four times on the broadcast that they were being told the game would be restarted in five minutes Troy Vincent from the NFL says that that was never his idea which could be true that could be very true that Troy Vincent and Roger Goodell did not make a call on this and that it was the officials and the game managers on site that kind of, like you said, went along with what the traditional playbook is for something like this, which is, OK, give the teams five minutes to warm up.
And we saw Joe Burrow start to throw passes. We saw some of the guys moving around on the sidelines as if they were going to get back in that game and in that moment i think everybody with with a sense of what just happened understood that you can't play this game one it's it's bigger than a game because there's a man that died on the field that's that's literally what we all saw happened to expect his teammates and everybody else to go out and to try to play a football game after that is is foolish and there is a player safety element involved where those guys, their head's not going to be in the game when they go out there.
And there's going to be a differing level of competitiveness in that game, depending on play to play and who's in it, who's not focused. And that's dangerous for everybody involved.
And then there's just the simple fact that like you should, based on what these players have seen and what they're going through mentally, do not make them go back and do their jobs. Imagine if you're if you're at work and like a co-worker passes out and you have to shock him back and give him CPR.
Like you're not in any position to go back and focus on your job later on that day. But so what we saw was was the NFL.
They struggled initially. You're right.
Zach Taylor and Sean McDermott, they all the credit to them for making the logical decision and for saying, Hey, this is not something that we've normally seen stopping the game from restarting it when it looked like it was going to, then it sounds like the NFL PA got in touch with the teams and they worked their way with the NFL and discussed the fact that like, this is, this is not going to happen. So I'm not going to sit here.
I'm not going to point fingers at Roger Goodell and say, you're the bad guy for trying to restart this game. It might not have been his call, but it does speak just to like the natural flow of things in the NFL is when a player gets seriously hurt, even up to the point of them needing CPR on the field, the status quo is okay.
We're going to get this started in five minutes. That's what the onsite game officials tried to do.
And I think you need to like take a step back and, and, and realize that it's not always, it's not that serious. Right.
And it's, it's also a great reminder in a terrible situation that it had to have, you know, take this to remind everyone that these guys are all humans. And, you know, like hearing about DeMar Hamlin's mom coming down from the stands and trying to get to the ambulance there, you know, their relationship they have with each other as teammates, their families that are watching them and watching the game and saying, you know, the next hit could be a catastrophic hit.
And I don't, I don't think there there's a school of thinking like, well, it's football. They signed up for it.
Yeah. Okay.
Uh, we all know the dangers of football, but there's some really bad shit that can happen in football and it's okay to take a step back and be like, let's, let's, let's make sure everyone's okay here. Both like you're saying, the mental health and DeMar Hamlin in the hospital in critical condition right now.

I don't think anyone's making the argument that football's over.

It's just it needed the necessary step back and the game to stop

and be canceled to realize this is something that is a one in, I don't know, a million thing that happened that needs to be addressed accordingly. And it can't just be the regular show goes on because you're right.
Like the, the, the, the, the normal reaction of the NFL is always like, well, the show must go on. I mean, we played an entire season in COVID with games on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Like we know that that's what the NFL, that's their protocol. They go, the show must go on.
But this is one of those situations where I'm happy the show didn't go on. And I'm happy that, you know, the bills players were able to, to stop playing.
Some of them are able to see, you know, go to the hospital. I know Stefan Diggs went to the hospital.
They were able to get home to their families because at the end of the day like we're look we're not everyone knows this show we we try not to be serious ever but this is a situation where it is like a step back situation and say like okay these guys are humans and we need to we need to reassess kind of how we look at the whole thing and give it its time to heal.

Yeah. okay, these guys are humans and we need to reassess kind of how we look at the whole thing and give it its time to heal.

Yeah, I think, well, first I just want to clarify,

I want to say it's not that serious.

I'm obviously not talking about the injury.

I'm talking about the sport of football compared to the guy that is injured.

I want to make that clear.

But so I think a lot of people found themselves

in a state of, I guess they didn't have a direction to channel in any of their energy right after it happened, because we're so used to getting a thumbs up from a player that's being like put into an even when they're clearly not doing well. We see movement.
We're used to hearing the announcer say he has movement in his extremities.

I think everybody's waiting for an update from a reporter saying he's regained consciousness and like he's got a message for his team and for the fans. We were we were all waiting for that.
We were waiting for the picture like we got from Christian Erickson when he passed out or he actually had heart cardiac arrest as well at the soccer game two years ago where, you know, he puts a picture up from the hospital. We were all waiting for that.
And when we didn't get any acknowledgement that like things were improving, we were just, we were, we started to lash out and we did see a little bit of that online, like looking for the bad guy. Okay.
I can get mad at skip Bayless and that will make me feel better in this situation. But the reality is, I think everybody was kind of kind of like dealing wrestling with their own a little bit of grief and also just a little bit of of shock and trying to process what they just saw yeah and it's i i don't blame people who get their initial reaction is let's get angry and witch hunt on the internet because it's just no one knows how to deal with this no one knows how to deal with a situation they've never seen before um so i don't i don't think it's wrong i think a lot of people probably woke up today being like you know maybe trying to to witch hunt the the three or four bad tweets was not the correct way to use my energy maybe they didn't i don't really care um it's just the whole thing is sad and i really really hope we get a good update soon um i know that you know, I would assume, I don't know what the NFL is going to do in terms of scheduling.
It's not really relevant right now, but obviously that's a question. A lot of people are asking, I'm sure it will happen in due time in the next day or two.
Um, the only thing I, other thing I wanted to say was, uh, just like DeMar Hamlin, the guy, because it, you know, it came out, you know, his charitable, you know, giving with the toy drive that has now reached, I think, five and a half million dollars and all the stories about who he is and like how he's he's really a role model to kids in Pittsburgh. He grew up in Pennsylvania.
He went to Pitt. He's a hero to a lot of these kids.
He seemed like, you know, the consummate, just professional teammate, friend, you know, son, brother, all these things. And, and it seems like, you know, one of those things where instead of finding that anger online for who made a bad tweet, it should probably be focused more on like what an incredible human being DeMar Hamlin is and trying to help however that is and and you said it i mean before pft but like the i think what was his uncle's quote that that was really like profound i i can look it up exactly here and i think let me let me do that because i don't want to get it wrong it was it was a really yeah look it up and it's touching okay he said he said this is this is damar Hamlin's uncle, Dorian Glenn.
He said, a lot of people don't get to see how loved they are while they're alive. So for him to have a situation where he could have been taken away, and he has a chance to come back and see all that love that he got.
And yeah, I mean, it's true. We say give people their flowers, and most people don't get to ever see all the lives that they've impacted and how much people truly care about them.
But the truth is, everybody out there has a lot of people that care about them. And hopefully, and I hope I'm not reading too far into this, but it sounds like there's a little bit of progress being made as far as his health goes and hopefully

he'll be able to to wake up and and what a what an awesome moment that would be for him to get to see

all the love that's been shown to him from strangers friends uh you know bill's mafia

has obviously stepped up big time the organization his teammates like that that would be an incredible

moment for him so i really you know amongst other reasons i really hope that he gets to experience that.

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Yeah. And I hope he experiences it too, because it's just the, you know, we love football.
We really, really love football. And I think a lot of people love football and it's been cool to see the outpouring of love for DeMar Hamlin, both in Buffalo, nationwide, Cincinnati, like the fans were, I think were great on Monday night football.
Um, you know, some of the stories about making sure that his mom was able to get down to the field as quickly as possible, even though she wasn't credentialed, like all these things. So I don't know, it's just, that that's the, the positive side of, of seeing everyone kind of come together and use positive energy and, and hope that, you know, everything turns out okay.
That's, you know, those are the moments that I look for to be like, yeah, this is what's good in life. You know, it's not someone's bad tweet.
It's rejoicing in a great young man who hopefully can come out of this. Yeah, 99% of people I actually think are awesome and wonderful and worth celebrating.
There's one person in particular I wanted to talk about because I did get a couple DMs and I got a couple texts from some friends who happened to be at this game as well. I don't know who this lady was.
She was part of the medical staff that was there. And the second he fell to the ground and he started to being attended to on the field she recognized the severity of the situation sprinted off uh helped get the defibrillator onto the field motion for the ambulance was kind of calling some shots and started to grab the players from each team and pulled them into place to have them stand around damar to give him a little bit of privacy in that moment when they started to do cpr on him yeah which is something that would have like that that would have um it would have been traumatizing to everybody involved and also he deserves it yeah he deserves to have the dignity of having privacy in a situation like that and i don't know who she was these people i i got two dms and two texts from people that were there that just wanted to share that story.
So I thought it was worth sharing on this show in case anybody knows who she was just absolutely great job by the medical staff to be able to like spring into action that quickly. Yeah.
And, and, uh, last thing, and we're going to kick it to ourselves back in studio. We mentioned it with Pete Prisco, but knowing how to do CPR is, is pretty easy to, to take like an hour course.
I mentioned it with Pete, but like I did do a course when I had, you know, my son and we had to do a child CPR lesson and stuff like that. Like you never know, you never know when it could help someone and there's heroes everywhere.
So, you know, if this is, if this is a moment that spurs a lot of people to go out and get certified in CPR, like think about all the good that will happen from that. But, uh, at the end of the day, we, we know what type of podcast we are.
We know that we're here to entertain people and not be super serious. We thought obviously this situation needed a little bit of a different tone to start the show.
The rest of the show will be back in studio with everyone, um, back to our normal

programming because we know that people want to laugh and people want to think about something

else. Um, and maybe it's not even thinking about this, but thinking about something else that's

going on in their life. Um, that's tough right now.
So we know, we know our role in, in the

universe in that sense. So, um, with that, let's, uh, let's kick it to ourselves back in studio.
Uh, we got Pete Prisco, Max Duggan and, uh, the 2022 bonk list and hot seat cool throne. Okay.
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It's just something I've been thinking about for a while, and I want to talk with you guys about this. Non-cash tips.
Every single food service. I feel like I used to have an understanding of the unwritten rules of tipping when you're supposed to tip, when you're not supposed to tip.

But in today's day and age with technology, it seems like every single place you put a card, they ask for a tip. And it has thrown off my understanding of what is a tip and what's not a tip.
And I also am woke about I feel like if I'm tipping, like if I go to pick up food, I went to go pick up my lunch today. It asked for tip.
But I't think that that if I give 20%, $2, $5, I don't think that's going to the person who made my food. Right.
Okay. So I've got to – And I just don't – I just want to get this out there because I don't want to be a scrooge.
But sometimes I do zero and then I feel cheap. Yeah.
But in my heart, I'm like this is correct. Yeah.
It's definitely something that we're seeing more and more of, especially at places where essentially it's transactional. You pay money, and then you get your thing and leave.
I have a very simple system for handling this. My system is if there's somebody next to me in line that can see if I'm leaving a tip or not, I leave a tip.
And if there's not, I usually don't. And then the report came out that CBS...
It's 100 CBS just to make because I'd feel bad if the person behind me is like oh shit PFT's cheap did you see what happened with CBS no they essentially you know they ask you sometimes a roundup and it's a donation yeah they basically pledged like 15 million dollars to the to the whatever the corporation or the charity was they pledged that they used other people's money to fulfill that $15 million, which is fraud. So that's in my head now too where it's like, now I'm like, I don't even think, again, it's where I don't think if it's money going to the workers, that's one thing.
I don't feel like it is. I just do 15% every time just so that the transaction is nice, clean.
We did this. But then are you cheap? Is that cheap? No, 15% on takeout? This is where I get thrown off.
Are you talking about... Yes, I'm talking about takeout.
You're talking about walking into five guys, ordering a burger, 15%. That's what I do.
I'm not eating there. I'm just taking it and going away.
But five years ago, would you have tipped anything? Yeah. So honestly, if they give you an option and it's not at like a CVS, if it's at a CVS or like a grocery store where they do those donation things, I'm just convinced that the money doesn't actually go there.
Or like Hank's saying, that it's actually going to go there from CVS. They're using us to refill what they're pledging.
So my rule, I honestly just go like 20%. Just saying the only reason this has become a conversation is because that new square iPad type devices that turns around, it actually became a TikTok trend.
But it's just because certain, especially takeout places, use that type of payment system that has that tip option is why this has all been discussed. I think you're supposed to tip if you like pick up food i do see i i agree just if i pick up food i do 15 if i'm sitting down it's 20 or more yeah i i usually i i'm a good tipper i consider myself a good tipper but i've been questioning myself when i go i literally walk in pick up the food and then think about it this way they ask me to tip but i'm like i don't it this way.
What am I tipping? This is the way you got to think about all these things is the people working are probably not making a ton of money. And it's like if it's a $15 meal and you're tipping 15%, that's like a couple bucks.
What does that mean to you? Right. It's probably if enough people do it, it means a lot to them.
Yeah. If they get the money.
If they get the money. If it's takeout, there's usually somebody that's responsible for putting the entire meal together,

packaging it up in the styrofoam and stuff.

So you are getting service.

It's just not coming to your table.

It's just getting packaged up and put into a bag.

I do delivery 20%, 25%.

I usually, if it's the same place I'd order from a lot, I go all the way to the right,

and I tip the most amount because I know that I'm probably going to see that person again. Wait, but real quick, does that mean you guys tip at Chipotle? I will give 15% at Chipotle.
I can be bullied into a tip at Chipotle, yes. Chipotle is exactly what I'm talking about.
Like going to get a coffee, 15%. Chipotle, 15%.
Basically, if somebody asks me for money, I feel bad not giving them money. I just hit the button.
We're on the same page you're at, right? Yeah, we don't make 75K episodes. It's a little different.
That's true. I'll give you one of my slurp juices.
Yeah, I'm down 5K. Yeah.
Which, although that does cue into my cool throne. I have a couple.
The first one was insane NBA stat lines. Donovan Mitchell, 71 points last night.
Luka had that crazy 60-point triple-double a week ago, week and a half ago. Yeah.
So that's, you know, insane NBA stat lines, Donovan Mitchell, 71 points last night. Luka had that crazy 60-point triple-double a week ago, a week and a half ago.
Yeah. So that's insane NBA stat lines are back.
My other cool throne is actually me again. Darts Day, everyone remembers Darts Day back in June.
The World Darts Federation or whatever it's called came to Madison Square Garden. Yeah, thanks for the invite.
A bunch of us went. It was awesome.
I had a great time. I would have had a great time.
I placed a bet, what I thought was a bet, on that night's event. Oh! I put in two people.
Van Gerwen, who's the GOAT, and then Michael Smith, who's also pretty good, but he was a much bigger underdog. Van Gerwen won the event, and I was like, yes, cash it, like, plus $1,000 or something.
It's just never cash. It's been bet slip for the entire year and it and and it said the date that the finals were was uh january 1st so i'm looking january 1st like finally like i'm trying to track like who's winning the championship like i'm trying to follow along what's going on because like at no point was i ever sure when this was ending uh it didn't end january 1st it ended today but the finals going on right now michael van gerwin and michael smith wow so guaranteed winner and sharp right before when it started today right there i'm gonna look at the clip after i didn't get to watch it was literally right before we started recording van gerwin was one dart away from getting a nine darter he missed on the 12 so eight out of nine mich nine.
Michael Smith comes right after him. Nine darter.
Wow. Some are calling it the greatest hand of darts ever.
I am. I'm calling it the greatest hand.
Isn't it an inning? I don't know. I've done that before, Hank.
In like 2012, I want to say, when there was World Cup, or what was it, 2010 World Cup, I bet on cricket World Cup. And I had to wait like five months yeah and i was just like sitting there like what the fuck it was june and i've been looking every time i go into like you know i'll be nfl sunday be looking at my bets and it's like well yeah maybe this van gerwin will hit plus 1200 yeah you pretty much already spent that money probably yeah like how are you so good at betting darts? I just handicapped it well.
Yeah.

I handicapped that event well, and then apparently they won the championship.

I don't know.

Love it.

Damn.

Although, again, it said it ended January 1st.

It's January 3rd right now, so I'm not even 100% positive that this is the end,

but it has to be.

Is it actually a cricket match where it's four days long and you have to wait this long?

I really hope. I'll fall back on Friday.
Okay. All right.
Who's your goat? Van Gerwen. Michael Smith, though, better odds, more money.
You had to. Hungry dog.
I'm kind of rooting for him. That always works out.
Fuck you. My hot seat is women.
Oh. Women are on the hot seat because a study came out where they asked men and women of

various ages what the chances would be that they could land an airplane, land an airliner

if the pilot became incapacitated and they had to take over the cockpit with help from

air traffic controllers so they could get on the radio.

And less than 50% of women said that they could could land an airliner while uh 46 of men said that they could so men are at 46 and only one in five women say that they could land an airliner if they were to take over it have a little faith in yourself have confidence in yourself these things are basically like it's you just press the land you press autopilot and you talk to the people in the tower and then you land the fucking plane. It's not that hard.
And if you don't land it, you just take it back up and come back around. Yeah, it's in the air.
You just keep flying it. So there's, I mean...
Throttle down. There's lift, drag, and the other two, which are line.
Anyways, I could land a fucking plane. It's not that hard.
And so if anybody out there... I would actually, if Southwest Airlines did give me a jet and they let me try this, I would be able to land this plane.
Anyone want the jet out there? If you won a Pepsi challenge recently... What do you think this poll would be for parallel parking? What's that, Billy? You're forgetting the first part.
What? Landing gear. Landing gear.
You got to put the wheels down. Billy, you fucking moron.
That's the last thing that you do. No, you got to put the landing gear down.
On final approach, you put the flaps down, then you put the gear down afterwards. No, then you put the wheels down.
Sounds like you don't know how to land a plane. Billy might be a woman.
Billy might be a woman. I put the wheels down first.
Okay, all right. You don't know ball.
Yeah, Billy Eilish. You're a wheels up guy.
I'm a wheels down guy. No, whatever.
I could land a plane is what I'm getting at, and I think everybody in the studio should be able to land a plane. What do you call them, a one-string? What do you mean? What's that thing? When they land them on carriers? Oh, third cable.
I hit the third cable, yeah. No, realistically, I don't think I would be able to land a plane on an aircraft carrier.
First try. Not first try.
But I do think, like, all joking aside, if I got behind the wheel or the stick of a 737 and I was able to talk to air traffic control, I honestly do believe that I would be able to land a plane. I agree.
What about 747? These things are all fly-by-wire. 747, I've never been in the cockpit of one of those, so I'm not sure.
Easy. Easier.
Airbus, probably.

Just give me an iPad.

Auto.

You just go right down.

Yeah, it's pretty simple stuff.

It's not rocket science.

It's air science.

When you guys were little kids, you know how they make you turn off your phones and stuff?

I thought that it was, because I didn't have a phone, but I had a Game Boy.

Yeah.

I thought it was because if I kept it on, I would be able to land the plane with my Game Boy. You could.
That was just an all-time... We should do a whole dumb shit we thought of.
I think we did a Mount Rushmore of it. I used to think my balls were Play-Doh when I was a little kid.
I thought I was an elf when I was a child. Still? No, I thought.
It was because I had pointy ears. Why aren't I as tall as everyone else? Shut the fuck up.
I must be a creature. I stopped growing in eighth grade.
I'm sorry. I'm 5'8".
That's actually a pretty normal sized thing. Which brings me.
I have dropped you off at your house before. It was a big tree.
No, it's a giant shoe the bottom line is i could land an airplane and i'd like women out there to have more confidence in themselves so some people are like oh this is this just speaks to the irrational confidence of men i think that women are just too humble yeah you can do it ladies you could land a plane it's not that difficult absolutely, your cool throne? My cool throne is short kings, like myself. Elves.
Elves, because there was a post that came out in the New York Times. It was an article about why people need to start appreciating short kings more and why being short is better for the future.
So this author, Mara Altman, wrote an essay saying that not only do shorter people tend to live longer, but they're also crucial in conserving food and resources on her dying planet. The short are also inherent conservationists, which is more crucial than ever in this world of 8 billion.
So basically, if we were 10% shorter, we would save 87 millions

of tons of food per

year, not to mention trillions of gallons

of water, quadrillions of BTUs

of energy, and millions of tons

of trash. So it's

truly the age of the short can. This sounds like Bill Gates

wrote it. It sounds like we're doing

eugenics, but for tall people? Yeah.

I don't think that any 5'9 person

in power would ever try to eliminate people that he saw as undesirable billy that's just not how we operate so short kings are back short kings are back and i i am a self-hating short king at times because i do i do fully acknowledge the fact that like if you're under five foot nine you should not be in charge of a military i think time and time again or a company we've learned that lesson lesson that a country should not be run by a five foot three man. You shouldn't get to drive the car.
You shouldn't get to be in company. No, I've got pedal extenders.
What about planes? Planes, no. Yeah, they probably shouldn't fly planes.
That's for bosses. Six and above.
So anyways, all you tall people out there that think that you're so great just because you hit the genetic lottery, just know that you're slowly strang the earth i don't think i'm great i just know that you're when i walk into a room slowly strangling the earth taller man more you're slowly destroying this planet that we love so much um all right my uh hot seat i have two uh the first one is chris sims i don't know if you guys saw this but uh chris sims is beefing with the SportsCenter Instagram account. So he got very, very upset.
Omar? Chris, is that who runs it? Chris Sims had a take earlier this year that said there's just no way, talking about Jalen Hurts, he said there's just no way he's more valuable to his team than Mahomes, Burrow, or Allen. Those teams are not the same teams if they don't have them at a quarterback.
If you put Gardner Minshew in for the Eagles, they'd still be really damn good. Gardner Minshew obviously started twice, lost twice.
So SportsCenter keeps posting it over and over and over. And Chris Sims went on his podcast.
He said, fuck you, SportsCenter Instagram, for putting it out there for a third time in three weeks. Like, fuck off.
Like, really fuck off, ESPN, SportsCenter. Do they not make content over there anymore? I mean, damn, stop jockeying me, ESPN.
Holy shit. Give me a piece of your check.
Invite me on SportsCenter, and let's have a fucking conversation. That might be a little bit of an overreaction.
Well, any time you're getting into an actual, like, debate with a brand account, you're already losing. You're already losing at that point.
Are you expecting SportsCenter is going to write back to you? It's also just, if you're in this business, you're going to be wrong. How you handle being wrong is a pretty big testament to who you are.
Well, I actually think that Chris Sims is doing the right thing in the wrong way, which is turning this into content for himself and getting us to talk about Chris Sims beefing with the SportsCenter Instagram account. Well, no, the real point.
But he's actually mad about it. Right, he's very mad.
He's actually very mad online about it, where he should just be pretending to be mad online and then using this to get us to talk about it. Yes, yes.
I also hand up if Chris Sims is looking for haters. I did, during Thursday Night Football, Jets, Jaguars, retweet the tweet where he said, Zach Wilson is, I see Patrick Mahomes, I see Patrick Mahomes, a lot of Patrick, or sorry, I see a lot of Patrick Mahomes in Zach Wilson.
He's my number one quarterback this year. Yeah.
I did retweet that. Okay.
So if you're looking for anyone who's trying to jock you, I hand up, I've jocked you, Chris Sims. Gotcha.
It's fucking funny. Isn't he? It's like, if you get upset about old takes exposed, you shouldn't be in this business.
Isn't Chris Sims also a top button guy? Yeah, all the way. On the dress shirt? All the way up.
At what point in life do you make the decision, I'm going to be the top button guy? Because you can't just transition into it. It's not like the bow tie where you phase out of that.
If you're a top button guy, I almost assume you have to be a top button guy from the jump once you go on TV the first time. And I like Chris Simms.
I know him personally, but Chris, I got to maybe reach out to him and be like, dude, you can't let the ESPN Instagram account win. Yeah.
He should do like an informal version of his podcast where he takes the button down.

Yeah.

Or that's a segment.

I could also tell that this was brewing because he did text me a few months ago a little upset

about my affiliation with Tuanon.

So he and Florio do not like Tuanon.

And so they're like, who's Tuanon?

Trying to get the hard answers out of me.

Did they come back at it? Is he showing like a victory parade right now? No, it's concussed. Oh, yeah, that's true.
You can't stun on that. My other hot seat is Dana White.
That was bad. Yeah.
You had that, Billy? That was my hot seat. What are your thoughts then? He got bitch slapped.
Yeah, that wouldn't be my thought. That's your takeaway from it? That was my thought.
Is that he got slapped? Yeah. Billy, you can't, I can't believe you sometimes.
No, I think the other part was probably the takeaway. Yeah, if you missed the video, Dana White slapped his wife in public.
Billy. Apologize, but also, I just think that if you slap your wife in public.
Or in private. No, I'm saying if you slap your wife in public, it feels like you might be okay with slapping your wife all the time.
Yes. Yeah, that's not something that you do.
Like you go out to the club. It's like, oh, today I just woke up and I was a wife slap guy.
You're surrounded by 100 people and you start hitting your wife. Yeah.
And if you said it was like alcohol, it's like a drunken word speaks sober thoughts thing. sober thoughts thing where bad bad bad bad you're doing that when you're really drunk yeah bad bad bad just don't hit women very very easy rule to live by it's yeah just straight up do not do it um that's sean connery interview went viral a couple days ago when barbara walters died and she was like you said in an interview at one point that um it okay to hit your wife.
And he was like, yeah, no, I stand by that. Yeah.
And she was like, what? Yeah. That's something that you fully expect a guy like that to be like, no, actually, that was taken out of context.
And it sounds really bad. But here's what I meant.
Be like double down on it. Yeah.
He's like, no, it's true. It's very bad.
Very bad. All right.
My cool throne is Tulane football. Just want to give a shoutout to Tulane football.
What a fucking comeback against USC. Also an all-time stinking Riley like USC.
This is the bed you made. He's a very good coach.
Yeah. But his defense has never been good, and those things will happen.
But Tulane has some of the best colors in the country. They haven't been good in forever.
I love that logo, too, in the mascot. Oh, it's so good.
I think it was sometime in the 50s they left the SEC for academics, and it's been all downhill since in terms of the football program. But they're back, what, 12-win season maybe? 11, 12-win season? 2-10 to, I think, 11-2.
I think it might be 12-2. It's the biggest turnaround I think in college football yeah Willie Fritz shout out Willie Fritz and uh that was an awesome fun game I'm gonna miss bowl season very much it really is my favorite time to watch it also uh anyone who had Illinois plus three and a half my thoughts are for you but you really shouldn't have bet against a dead coach game yeah that's on you uh at the end of the Tulane game I love love seeing the fans just freak out because it was never in your expectation if you went to Tulane that you'd ever find yourself in a position like beating USC in a bowl game.
And the look on their faces of like, holy shit, we did it. That's the best part about college football.
And there's some people saying that Oklahoma fans bitching about Lincoln Ryland using this as an opportunity to take a leak on him because he lost this bowl game is immature and beneath the people of Oklahoma. I actually think this is exactly what you should be doing.
That's college football. If you're an Oklahoma Sooners fan, you should be the most petty person on earth and celebrate every single one of Lincoln Riley's failures.
Facts. The other thing about that game, I don't remember ever having a safety mean more.
They were down eight and they got a safety. I don't think I've ever seen that.
Because usually safeties happen in weird score games or defensive battles or it will happen early. Like, oh, put a pin in that.
Literally just a two-point conversion they got and they got the ball back and scored and won. Yeah.
What do you think about this Mike Greenberg dumb rule? Safety should be worth four. Because the safeties are so hard to get.
I think two points is like spitting in the face of the defense. And they always stop the forward motion.
Yeah, so I was going to say, I think a safety should count as four if it's a clean sack of the quarterback in the end zone. Okay, and if it's a holding in the end zone, it's two or three.
Yeah, two. I think two.
Like a holding in the end zone, two. When the running back tries to run and he gets stopped, that should be two.
But a true old-fashioned sack in the end zone? Because that doesn't really happen. It doesn't.
I would say if you stop a running back cold in the end zone, that's three. That's in between.
I like it. I like it.
Billy. Just saying I'm very against violence against women.
Oh, thank you. Yeah.
But you're also against dudes looking like bitches, it sounds like. Oh, Billy, come on.
Oh, no. No, that was a bad joke.
I'm really sorry. My cool throne.
Adventure. Adventure.
Okay. Yeah.
He's on in the hot seat. He knows.
That was unspoken. My hot seat again is me for a thing that I said five seconds ago.
It's a wild video all around. A wild.
By everybody. Yeah.
Mostly Dana White. It is bad.
Yes, mostly Dana White. Actually, almost all Dana White.
All Dana White. It looks terrible throughout the whole thing.
Yes. My cool throne is adventure.
There's a bunch of treasure in the East River. What? An ancient for you Billy It sounds like a fun project that you can work on Like coins? Why are you giving this all away? If there's actually treasure there why are you saying it on Because it's already out there Why would you do that? Here I'll give you You can bleep one thing from this show.
Okay. You want to bleep that? No, no.
The treasure is on East 65th Street next to the FDR Drive in the water. And Donnie from Donnie Does, he's got a buddy with a boat, and we're going to try to go get it.
Nice. Okay, so he has swam across the East River.
So why are you giving people the exact coordinates of this treasure? It's already out there. Okay, but you're amplifying the messages.
How do you know that it's there? We don't know if it's there. What is it exactly? It's woolly mammoth bones.
Tusks, ivory, worth millions. It's a billion treasure.
Who is paying for that? It's worth millions, bro. Who do you sell it to? Russians, probably.
There's actually woolly mammoth bones in the East River. The answer is it's so millions, bro.
But like who? Who do you sell it to? Russians, probably. All right, so if there's actually woolly mammoth bones in the East River.
That's one of those answers that's so dumb, but I kind of agree. That was an answer from Billy that I know is wrong, but I just don't want to explore it any further.
I mean, no, but it makes sense. Russians would buy it.
If it's in the river, isn't the water? It's an estuary, so the tide does come in and out, and there has been many generational gigantic hurricanes

that have hit since they were dropped off in a long time ago.

So how did the bones get there?

What about all of the oil and gas from boats that come through constantly?

Okay, Greta.

We're going to go look for these bones. We're going to throw in some wetsuits and go scuba diving or just free diving.
All right, so what are you going to do with them? Once hopefully we find them, then we get to go on Joe Rogan. Okay.
Wait, Billy. I've got a tusk.
I've got a woolly mammoth tusk I can give you. Should we just fake we found a tusk? And we should send them to the Russians.
Yeah, send them to the Russians. Using your Russian connections.
I've got a molar, too. Wait, let's just pretend we found those in the East River, and then it'll be the greatest.
You should go. And don't worry about getting certified scuba or whatever.
Just jump in. Don't even use a scuba.
Just actually hold a brick. It's only 15 feet.
Then you hit sludge. You know what you need to do is you need to tape.
And there's no way it's underneath the sludge. Yeah.
It It's going to be in the sludge So I think we're going to get a big hook On the end of the line And then just drag it around the bottom Sounds like you've got this all planned out And if anybody has an underwater drone That they would lend us James Cameron Or if anyone has some serious equipment That could actually help us find it in the East River We're going to be coordinating this This is like if James Cameron. Yeah.
But, yeah, or if anyone has some serious equipment that could actually help us find it in the East River, we're going to be coordinating this. This is like if James Cameron directed National Treasure, this is what you've gotten yourself into.
Yeah. I like this.
Great director, great movie. Let's go.
Jake. My hot seat is name mix-ups.
So we have this PGA golfer named Scott Stallings. Yes.
And a random guy named Scott Stallings was sent the invitation to participate in this year's Masters Tournament. And he DM'd him and said, I think this is for you.
Crazy. All-time good guy move.
I would have absolutely shown up. Yeah.
At the range. Like, here's my letter.
Here's my invite. That's a classic golf fan, too.
Yeah. Like, self-policing on that one.
Respect for the game. Yeah Yeah.
Like you deserve to be in the field. Scott Stallings has to get him tickets, right? Yeah, has to.
Has to. Has to.
Or at least caddy the par three if he doesn't have kids. Oh, yeah.
If he doesn't have kids. Follow up on that, please.
Make sure that Scott, if he doesn't, I will skull fuck. Yeah.
The real Scott Stallings. The golfer.
Yeah, the golfer. Yeah.
What would you do, Jake, if that got sent to you? Oh, I mean,

DM right away. Yeah, you would.

I'd be showing up.

I would probably kill the real Scott Stallings

and just assume his identity entirely.

I'd be like, listen, I've got the start right here.

Imagine he won. How awesome would that be

too if you showed up and

they actually let you play

and you just posted two

rounds plus 250?

The fake Clay Thompson right at the finals?

Yeah, he got all the way on the court.

I'm already watching. they like actually let you play and you just posted like who is the two rounds oh is the 250 the fake clay thompson right at the finals yeah he's got all the way on the court he warmed up yeah yeah um my other hot seats march madness there's talks of expanding it to 90 teams today which would be not great no no i'm in why more games yeah i'm in i don't fuck it i'm in yeah yeah like Yeah, like, okay, so.
More games. The downside, I get.

It means a little bit less to get to the tournament.

You can go under 500 and make the tournament.

Yeah, there's going to be a lot of bad teams in the tournament.

But then, on the flip side, way more games.

So, yeah, I think I'm in.

I think that's the part that I'm in on.

Way more games. You get, what, a whole other weekend?

Probably.

In.

So in.

Yeah, I mean.

Yeah, you might have your soul.

I don in on. Way more games.
You get, what, a whole other weekend? Probably. In.
So in. Yeah, I mean, I know.
Listen, whenever these expansion things are discussed. This is a crazy expansion.
Yeah, no, I know. But, like, even college football expansion or the NFL playoff expansion, MLB, every league is expanding.
And I get the argument, like, you know, making the playoffs means less. You're going to have bad teams.
But then when you start the playoffs, there's just more playoffs, and that fucking rules. Yeah, that week one campus site college football playoff set of games is going to be unreal.
Do you know what we need less of is the regular season. We need more playoffs in all things.
Playoffs are the best. I actually think that I'm going to hate the new march madness the bracket's gonna look ugly as hell and i'm gonna i'm gonna despise it for the first year and then after that first weekend i'll be like that honestly that was good because it's just more sports they also if they do it correctly i think the way to do it would not to be make a 90 uh bracket 90 team bracket it would be basically just an entire bracket of plans yeah because then it would just then that's like hey you can make the oh they're not really in the tournament yet but those are still games you'd watch remember what was the game uh was it notre dame who played who played notre dame in the uh play in the Rutgers yeah game yeah awesome awesome game and you play those monday Tuesday, Wednesday.
Those higher-seeded teams, though? No, those were like 11 seats. The last four in.
Yeah. The last four in.
That's what I'm saying. Just make it all the last whatever.
It'd be like the last 30 in. Yeah, it's the last at-large ones that get in.
Yeah. So the conference champions still get in no matter what.
Right, and it would just be fun to watch. Then you just put it, you know, five games Monday, five games Tuesday, five games Wednesday, and then start the real tournament.
That sounds good to me. Sounds great to me.
So I'm looking at a blank 90-team bracket right now in this format of 38 teams would get a bye. I don't know how the math works out there, but the top 38 would be.
Does Wisconsin get a bye this year? Yeah. It's too many rules.
Is it top 25? Yeah. Okay.
I just want to see where your bracket is. That's the one thing I don't like about this type of thing is just it's new rules that i have to learn and new procedures and new details i don't my brain doesn't have any more space for being like oh it's 38 buys and then this is how it recedes once the different plans beat each other there's no reason i don't want to know i don't want to know all that though i just it's so nice to sit down, 64 teams, you play each other,

and then, boom, you get a champion. I hear you, PFT, but more March Madness.

Yes, it's more games.

Which is why I'm saying, like, I hate it now.

The bracket's going to piss me off.

But then once we're actually in the thick of it,

I'll be like, okay, more sports.

Yeah, I need to just find someone.

I think Rosillo doesn't like expanded playoffs.

I need to just sit there and debate him.

And he just makes this long-winded argument

about how it makes the regular season cheap.

but I'll just be like,

Thank you. need to just find someone i think riscilla doesn't like expanded playoffs i need to just sit there and debate him and he just makes this long-winded argument about how it makes the regular season cheap and i'll just be like but more march madness yeah and then i win because it's more march madness so no one would complain about if that happens uh my cool throne big cat we did it flex of the year yeah i want to know on our last one packers lions thank you for convincing me yep um they a hard on for Aaron Rodgers yeah and there are people

saying that game might be irrelevant for the Lions

if the Seahawks win but the Aaron Rodgers

button like you said Saturday with the Mahomes

button they know superstars move the

needle move the needle and I would

say that the Lions even if they are eliminated

of course they're going to want to eliminate their division rival

absolutely the Lions finish

over 500

the Lions are going to play hard no matter what yeah

I actually think the real strategy

is if the Rams lose to the Seahawks, hammer the Lions because that line will go up. Like that line will go to 6-7.
Yeah. And the Lions are going to try very hard still.
Well, I'm trying to think what would be the most heartbreaking result for the Lions because Lions fans will assume assume that that's what's going to happen. So would it be worse if the Seahawks win and then the Lions lose to the Packers? No.
Or would it be worse if the Lions win? Or wait a second. Seahawks win.
If the Seahawks win and then the Lions doesn't really matter at that point. The worst outcome for the Lions would be the Seahawks winning a very tight, nail-biting game where maybe the Rams are up all game and then the Seahawks win the game, and then the Lions absolutely obliterating the Packers.
They win too, and so it's like we did our job, but we just didn't get in. Now, it's interesting because there's some draft pick ramifications too with the Rams.
So the Rams owe the Lions some draft picks for the Matthew Stafford trade and so it's actually in the Lions best interest in a weird way if the Rams lose this game. So they win no matter what.
It's actually, maybe for the first time ever, a win-win for the Lions this weekend. Good job, Lions.
Finishing this season with the flex of the year win. Now I know for next season, just always favor the superstars.

Yeah.

Just always.

And the Cowboys.

I mean, think about it.

The Saturday schedule, Jaguars, Titans, we knew were going to be in there

because it's a win and get in.

And then Saturday afternoon, they had to figure out a game.

What's a game that doesn't mean anything, but every casual fan will tune in?

The Mahomes button.

Yep.

It just works. There we have it.
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And now here's Pete Prisco.

Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend.

It is Pete Prisco. He's a senior NFL columnist at CBSSports.com, analyst for CBS Sports HQ.

Pete, we talked about it at the beginning of the show, obviously Monday Night Football, really, really sad thing that happened, and we all watched it and were pretty shook. And we want to talk about other stuff because we don't want to repeat and just do an entire show about this one event.
But you have covered football for a very long time. You've a lot of football games uh where where was this kind of in in terms of uncharted territory when you're watching it on on monday night it was terrifying i mean let's be real it was terrifying and you you guys have been around long enough you watch the game you know when players react to it you go oh my gosh there's something really wrong here And I've seen I remember there was a guy once who ran a play when he was with Jacksonville in training camp.
And as soon as he ran the play, you heard and all the players went, oh, my God, they started running away. And you knew it was bad.
But you've never seen anything like this. This was this was I mean, this was a man fighting for his life on the football field.
And so it was terrifying.

And we saw back in the day when I was a kid, I was 11 years old,

Chuck Hughes died when he was playing.

And you remember that and you say, oh, my gosh, it's terrible.

And he had a heart attack on the football field.

It wasn't because he got hit, although some people later disputed that,

but he had a heart attack on the football field and died as well. So, look, terrifying, pit in your stomach.

You hope the kid's okay. You pray for him, and then you go from there.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, I mean, it's true. I think we all just sat there in complete shock because it was – I think the moment when they went to the Bills players and you saw guys in tears and you saw guys putting their hands over their mouth, you're like, players always know.
Players always know before anyone else.'s just they they know what a regular football hit looks like they know what a regular energy looks like they know what something very severe and bad looks like and it was yeah they could play the game there's no way you play that yeah no way you play the game and and do you have uh i'm kind of in a spot right now torn i i do think that the nfl is callous We all know that. But I also think we sit on our couch being like, you got to stop the game.
There's a lot of things that go into it. I don't know how the order of operations went down.
It feels like Zach Taylor and Sean McDermott were the real heroes of being like, we're listening to our guys and we're not playing this game. Yeah, but there's different reports of whether there is actually a five-minute warm-up and then play the game.
I find that highly unlikely, to be honest with you, but you never know until all the details get ironed out. But here's the other thing.
Your coaches, you have to take that on yourselves. These players could have just said, we're not playing.
They're not going to play. It would have looked bad for the league.
I think they ultimately got handled the right way now the question becomes what do you do i mean that's an important game

in the football sense of it and sometimes you got to separate life and football but that's an

important game let's hope demar hamlin wakes you know wakes up comes out of this as soon as possible

he's fine he moves on and then they can play the game at some point and when they play it that's

that's the tough part yeah when uh when christian erickson, the soccer player, when he died on the field, he went into cardiac arrest. They spent the game for a couple hours.
He went to the hospital. And then I think there was a picture that was tweeted out or he was responsive.
He he was you know, they give him CPR and he kind of returned to normal. And at that point, the teams agreed, OK, I guess we can retake the field and play the game right now.
As long as Hamlin is in the situation that it seems like he's in right now, which is very much in limbo and you don't know what's going to happen. If he's in that situation, I don't know how you can ask the Bills to play.
Correct. I would agree with you 100%.
If he's still unknown and his outcome is unknown, I don't know how you ask him to play either. One thing, though, thank gosh there's defibrillators on the sidelines in NFL stadiums.
And this should be a message to all the high schools and everybody else out there. Get those on the sidelines.
I mean, seriously, those kind of hits can happen all the time. And this will be the last time we talk about it, but it's also a great message.
Get CPR certified. It takes two seconds.
I mean, not two seconds it really does it's a low bar to go do it it's a one it's a one hour class i remember when my before my kids were born i had to go do it just because you have to you know what i mean like child state cpr is different than adult cpr and it's like it's something it's kind of like being a kidney uh or a organ donor on your license like you could save someone's life. You never know when that could happen.

In those situations, it is true, it's cliche to say,

but seconds do matter.

The difference between 30 seconds and a minute could be massive.

Yes, absolutely.

We'll transition to some other football because we do have Week 18 coming.

I wanted to go back and I looked at your Super Bowl prediction.

Let's start there. You had the Buffalo Bills over the Green Bay Packers.
Are the Green Bay Packers still able to win the Super Bowl this year, Pete Prisco? Yes, they are. And you know what? They're the team that nobody's going to want in the postseason.
Everybody in the NFC playoffs right now is rooting for the Detroit Lions this week. They don't want Green Bay in there because Rodgers can get hot.
The defense can take the ball away. They still have run defense issues, which is a major problem for them, but they can take the ball away.
Their offensive line is getting healthy. Bakhtiari is back.
Jenkins is back. They're healthy up front.
The young wide receivers are growing up. Nobody wants them in the postseason.
Yes, they can still go to the Super Bowl. Oh the super bowl oh man no they're not good is there something to be said about like a team i guess we've had the the bottom seeds win super bowls i think the green bay packers did actually and the ravens did right i think aaron rogers yeah no he did know the bears let him in the giants did it the giants have done it before teams get on the giants yeah yeah absolutely you can you can it.
When he won the Super Bowl, Rod, he did it. And he got as hot as possible he can be.
And look, every year there's a team that comes from nowhere that shows up and makes a deep playoff push. And the Bengals, who thought the Bengals were going to make a deep playoff push and Super Bowl push last year? But, okay, all right.
So my only counterpoint to it, and I know that, you know, I obviously remember the year. randall cob year or no that wasn't the randall cob year there's so many fucking tortured years it was the jay cutler knee year in the nfc championship uh the packers like the bengals last year is a good example they went they beat the chiefs like before the playoffs you know what i mean like they were peaking they were beating good teams the packers have beaten the titans the dolphins with two issues they I mean? They were peaking.
They were beating good teams. The Packers have beaten the Titans, the Dolphins with two issues.
No, they lost to the Titans. They lost to the Titans.
Oh, yeah, that's right. They lost to the Titans.
They haven't beaten unbelievable teams down the stretch. They beat the Cowboys.
I'm just trying to grasp something. They beat the Vikings.
The Vikings stink. You know the Vikings stink.
You know deep down. I'm with you.
They're minus 19 point differential. They have 12 wins.
That's incredible. It is wild.
They beat Miami on the road. They beat the Bears.
Suck. They beat the Rams.
Suck. They beat the Dolphins with two issues.
And then they beat the Vikings. Those are the last four wins.
Why are we saying that this is like they're peaking at the right time? Come on. Well, okay.
Okay, San Francisco. They're probably the best team in the NFC right now, right? I agree.
You don't know what Purdy's going to do in the playoffs. They have no idea.
Okay. I think the 49ers are built to the point where they can actually take that guy in a video game.
You know, like the fourth string quarterback that you select and it's just the silhouette of a gray head and that guy's playing quarterback for you. The Niners can do as long as that gray head doesn't turn the ball over.
As long as that gray head doesn't throw three interceptions, I think the 49ers are built to the point where they could beat any team in the NFL. Because they've won so many Super Bowls playing that way.
They haven't won any. I mean, yeah, I get it.
I mean, oh, they could do it with Jimmy. They could do it with this guy.
They could do it with Trey Land. They haven't won it yet.
So there's always the possibility they can't win it. So I get what you're saying because that team is talented and that defense is nasty.
And D'Amico Ryan's a great coach. And Kyle Shanahan's one of the best play callers, if not the best play caller in the NFL.
But there's always the unknown. What if they're down 10 in the fourth quarter? Can Purdy take them back? You know, Christian McCaffrey will throw three touchdown passes on a halfback toss.
It's a fair point. All right, so sticking in the NFC.
Maybe. I don't care either way, but Max, our producer, is a big Eagles fan.
I don't care about the Eagles at all, but to make him feel better. Well, as long as Hurts back, they're tough to defend.
I mean, it's a hard team to defend. It's a hard team to get ready for.
If you've got to beat them – if you say you win your divisional round, you've got to play them in the championship game, it's hard to get ready for that style of offense in that short period of time. So it's going to be a challenge for anybody.
They're different offense. Gardner Minshew is not a starting quarterback in the NFL.
Anybody who keeps saying that is way off base. He's not.
He's a backup quarterback. He's a good backup quarterback.
But they're a different offense when Jalen Hurts is in the lineup. Not having Lane Johnson Hurts, by the way.
He got sacked six times last week. They were brutalized up front.
That's not a good thing. And they have run defense issues, which is never a good thing.
So is it easy to say they're the number one seed and they're going to go run through the NFC? Absolutely not. Yeah.
What about the what about the Bucs? Tell me that is Tom Brady. Is he peaking at the right time? Is it going to be one of those things where he's going to host a playoff game? I'll ask you this way.
Out of the old guys in the NFC, who's more likely to go on a run right now, Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady? Tom Brady because he's at home. I think that matters.
Everybody's sitting here saying the same exact thing, and we've said it all year. At some point, Tom Brady's going to look like Tom Brady.
Well, last week he finally did. So what's going to happen in the first round of the playoffs? Who's going there? The Cowboys.
And everybody's going to sit there and say, oh there go the cowboys they're going to lose to tom brady because tom brady and his team has figured it out what has happened is the offensive line has got guys back now works is back uh that's important for them i think that show he can stand in there and make the throws and carolina what were you doing leaving your corner in one-on-one situations over there the entire game with mike ev? He just abused him. It was a terrible plan.
So, yeah, Tampa Bay can get on a roll. I don't think they're good enough to win it, but they can get a couple wins in the playoffs.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm unfortunately starting to – I've thought the Bucs have been trash all year, and I'm starting to believe in them, especially if Ryan Jensen comes back, because that's really been – I've been a big believer that the Bucs' defense has been good.
It's their offensive line that has just made Tom Brady look as bad as possible all year long and, like, everyone's out of sync, can't run the football. With Tristan Wirfs and Ryan Jensen possibly back, it's like, I don't know.
Maybe they will make a run. You know what's great? You said, oh, Tom Brady's peaking at the right time.
Yeah, at the age of 46. Yeah, he's peaking.
He hasn't even peaked yet. He hasn't even peaked yet.
It's incredible. Avocado ice cream or whatever the hell it puts in his body, we should all be eating that.
Yeah. Lord knows we don't.
All right, so the AFC, I want to give you. Because I see your donuts every Saturday, too, by the way.
I'm on a diet now, so I'm on a diet now. You're going to...
Welcome to my world. You're going to see me Super Bowl? We get victim? Super Bowl.

You're going to see me. And I saw you guys are both going to be ripped at the Super Bowl? Yeah.

I'm back on the Peloton, Pete.

I know that triggers you when I post my

scores. How long were you off of it?

Two years. About two years.

I took a brief hiatus.

Okay, so when I see you

at the Super Bowl, you're both going to be ripped?

Yeah.

Pretty much at the Super Bowl, like, don't worry about your laundry.

You can just do it on my abs.

No, there's no conceivable way in that time frame you can make that happen.

Zero.

Okay.

I actually did earlier this morning, hand up.

I Googled male liposuction abdominals cost. So it's in my price range i might just i might just go under the knife yeah you know what it is and i go see my doctor before every season and he says i said yeah this is gonna be the year i'm not gonna put on the 10 to 12 pounds i put on every year for fatball season and he goes yeah and okay we'll make an appointment for you in march and we'll see and.
And here it is in January, and here it is, bad ball season, okay? You go to your doctor right before every season? That's such a football guy move? Like just a quick checkup, see how we're doing? I do all my appointments before the season, and then you go back after the season, and he yells at you. Yeah, it's like a physical, getting ready for it.
Yeah, I like that. All right, so the AFC, I want to give you, not talking about the playoffs yet, I want to give you credit.
I want to give you your soapbox. You have been right about Russell Wilson, especially this year.
How good does it feel to have a lot of the nerds and stepboys who wanted Russ to cook? How good does this year feel for Pete Prisco and his longstanding take that That he's a good quarterback But he makes a lot of mistakes And his height is a detriment And his inability to move is now a detriment too I mean, he's Points to season look like one of us I mean, he just doesn't move very well And so, that's the concern Look, I'm not going to sit here and say he didn't have good years Because he did, but early in his career, best scoring defense in the league, four straight years. The only other team to do it was the 50s dynasty Browns.
So that tells you how good they were in defense and they could run the ball. He didn't have to do much.
When he had to do stuff, they let him play loose and he was free. And he did a nice job.
He was a good quarterback. But that was all getting outside the pocket, creating his legs, going up tempo.
And now I think we're seeing the results of not being able to move like he used to move. He's not good in the pocket.
He's not making good, accurate throws. He's getting hit a bunch.
His offensive line stinks. And it's all added up to a terrible quarterback.
And now they're on the hook for it. You think they have buyer's remorse? I mean, Pete Carroll should be coach of the year just for getting rid of him.
That's true. Okay, yeah.
I'll give him my vote. Yeah.
Pete, so you do hate Russell Wilson. That's been established.
No, that's not true. I don't hate anybody.
No, you hate him. He's your arch in the man, but you defeated him.
I never was a fan of his game. You won.
Put it that way. Okay, you won the war, though.
Like, long term, there were a few battles. You remained committed to it.
You came out on top. Is there a way – you're also a capologist.
You know a lot about the salary cap. Is there a way that Denver could move on from Russell Wilson if they wanted to? Not for a couple years.
Absolutely not. No way.
No way. It's too much money involved, too much guaranteed money.
There's no way. Zero.
What about a trade – And so now you – Would anybody – They'd have to accelerate the cap, you know, the remaining cap into the cap, the remaining bonus money into the cap. It's too much.
And no, they're stuck with them. And that's the thing.
If you get that job, that's your quarterback. You're stuck with them.
Yeah, so off of that, what coach wants that job? Who's going to take that job? Well, you've got to figure it – every coach has an ego every coach has an ego every single one of i can fix him oh i'll get in there he's gonna be just i'm getting him back to russell wilson again or you can hire a guy like jim harbaugh and just have him turn around and hand the ball off 42 times a game in 1970s football i mean that's possible too right i mean that that is that is highly possible there's talk that harbaugh would be interested in that job. Yeah, I could see Harbaugh going there.
Harbaugh, I actually do think he would be the, I can fix this man. Oh yeah.
Would Sean Payton be the, I could fix this man? And knowing Sean pretty well, I think he wants his quarterback. Sean Payton's ideal quarterback would have been the guy with the chargers, Justin Herbert, but the problem is they're not going to get rid of the coach there, so that job is out the window.
Yeah, so you're a big Jacksonville guy. You're plugged in with the team for a long time.
We're jagging off right now. It looks like the Jaguars, my best bet is that they're going to win this weekend.
It feels like they've got all the momentum there. Would they actually be, is this the best Jaguars team that we've seen since,

what was it, 2017, Blake Bortles?

Yeah, much, I mean,

it's better than that team because no offense to Blake Bortles,

but Trevor Lawrence is better

than Blake Bortles.

I mean, he is.

Yeah, you guys win.

I mean, I love Blake.

Blake's a great dude, but come on.

Trevor Lawrence is going to be special.

He's going to be a special quarterback.

He's going to be one of the five,

six best quarterbacks in this league.

Maybe in a couple of years it'll be one, two, or three. That's how good he could be.
And it's amazing what he's done. And by the way, let's make a case for Doug Peterson being coach of the year.
Here's why. He had to exercise the demons of the moron that was in front of him.
I mean, that's the worst coach in the history of the National Football League. Urban Meyer with his bullhorn and his sophomore high school ways.
Give me a break. That thing was a disaster last year.
Every week they paraded Trevor Lawrence out as a rookie quarterback to explain away the mess that was Urban Meyer. The kid handled it well.
And now he's grown up. And Doug Peterson's a great play caller.
Although he has one or two every game, and I pick on him because I say one or two every game, where he gets into that, let's run the Philly special mode. And then he runs some stupid play like he had a reverse to a running back the other day where he had Trevor Lawrence as the lead blocker in a meaningless game against the Texans.
I mean, there's one of those plays every single game. They're going to be I'll tell you what, they're not that great on defense.
They're getting better on defense. They're going to be a tough out because they can score.

So I agree with you.

The Jaguars have been playing great, great football.

Another team that I still can't wrap my head around it.

I'd love to hear your take.

The Chiefs. The Chiefs do feel like they're primed for a run,

but they've also been letting teams hang around.

And a lot of people are asking the question, has Patrick Mahomes even proved anything in this league because he's never won a road playoff game and look he's proved a lot this year by what he's done with the offense without Tyree Kill I mean they're just as good on offense as they've ever been but I think they have defensive problems and I think those show up they do have a game record you know when you get to the postseason every every team needs a defensive game record and they have Chris Jones he can wreck a game but the Outside guys have a game wrecker. And, you know, when you get to the postseason, every team needs a defensive game wrecker.
And they have Chris Jones. He can wreck a game.
But the outside guys haven't been as effective as I thought they would be. So eventually you've got to be able to knock that quarterback down from the edge.
And I don't know if they're good enough to do that. That's a problem.
I mean, at times this year they made Russell Wilson look good in a couple games. That's hard to do.
So that tells you something about their defense. I'm worried about the defense, but they can score on anybody as well.
I'm worried about the special teams as well. It feels like they've had some, like, whether it be punt return or actual field goals.
I'm a big believer in, you know, we ignore special teams all year, and then it always comes up in the playoffs where it's like, oh, the game's on the margins. You make a mistake, guy fields a punt within the 10-yard line or fumbles one, miss a field goal, miss an extra point.
That's how playoff games are decided. Yeah, punt the ball out of bounds.
Kick the ball out of the end zone. Don't worry about any of that return crap.
Come on. Give me a break.
Special teams. See? You're doing it.
Make your damn kicks. You're doing it.
Make your damn kicks.

Yes.

Make your damn kicks.

That's your only damn job.

Make your damn kicks.

These kickers, oh, he made his kick from 52.

That's his damn job.

Make your kick.

If you go to practice, what do they do all day?

They stand on the side, and they kick, and they kick, and they kick,

and they work on the mechanism of the snap, the hold, the kick,

and they kick, and they kick.

Then they get the games.

You make your damn kick. It's your job.

I like that, Pete. You should be a special

teams coordinator. Kick the ball out of bounds.

Don't let that guy return it. Make your kicks.

Make your damn kicks. As simple as that.
Yeah.

Extra point. Just lean

in. Make sure nobody gets the edges and

make the kick. It's not that complicated.

It's not a third

of the game either. It's a great myth.
It's about

14% of the game.

Listen, what about the Packers last year?

That team had special

Thank you. it's not a third of the game either it's a great myth it's about 14 percent i don't know listen listen what about the packers last year that team had special teams issues all season long and then it comes and bites him in the ass against the 49ers what about the bears with cody parkey like you see teams all year where if you're a fan of that team and you're really dialed in you're sitting there being like ah the special teams feels special teams feels a little off.
And then it happens. And then you, you know, you give up.
Okay. You mentioned Tony Parkey.
Yeah. What was his problem? Didn't make his kicks.
I know he, but I knew it all year long. I said it before the playoff.
I was like, we're going to have a problem. You know, you know, it's funny when you see a kickoff and you're watching the game and you go, okay, just boot it out of the end zone and go from there and let him play.
Right. But did he see, oh, no, he's going to hit a high one to about the three-yard line and see if they can pin him in.
Just kick that out of the end zone. You don't have to worry about it.
It's not that complicated. I agree.
It really isn't. If the Bills had done the right thing in that playoff loss to the Chiefs, they would have been in the Super Bowl and probably would have won the Super Bowl.
They didn't. They didn't, and they lost the game.
Yeah. No, it's a foolproof strategy, honestly.
Just make your kicks and don't let the other team return your kicks for touchdowns. Yeah, special teams coordinator Pete Prisco.
I think there's a future here. Put the damn ball out of bounds and you don't have to worry about it.
Just pin them deep. Just cough and corner it.
No, so it's true, though. It's not a third of the game, but bad special teams can completely wreck an otherwise good football team.
The 2010 Chargers, do you remember those guys? They had the best offense, number one offense in the NFL. They had the number one defense in the NFL.
They didn't make the playoffs. That's how bad their special teams was.
That's called Chargering. That's what that's called because we've seen that over the course of their lifetime.
They've chargered. They always seem to charge her.
It doesn't matter what it is, but they always seem to find a way, don't they? But this year's different, right? Is this year different? We're not going to charge her. You know what? I like their team.
I really do. I think that quarterback is special.
I think their defense has playmakers all over it. You've got bothosa back.
They can attack the quarterback. Mack hasn't been as good this year.
The offensive line has had some injuries, but those guys have played better. And you know the receivers are back.
When you have Williams and Keenan Allen, that's a problem. Think about week one.
Chargers at Jacksonville. That's probably what the game is going to be if they both win this week.
Yeah. So tell me the Chargers, more or less, if they're traveling to Jacksonville, you think the Chargers have a chance to beat them, or are you that high on your beloved Jaguars? Oh, no, they have a chance to beat them, absolutely.
Jacksonville whacked them early in the season, but they didn't have the receivers, and Herbert was playing with bad ribs. Remember, they went out there and just dominated them.
I worry about Jacksonville's defense. I think, you know, Herbert can stand back there and pick them apart.
That might be one of those games, last one with the ball 33-30, two quarterbacks shooting it out and see what happens. That's what that game did.
But that'll be fun to watch. And by the way, it'll be get ready for it because you can already schedule a game around.
It's going to be at four. The first game on Saturday will be Jacksonville Jaguars.
I went back and looked since 2010 that the AFC South champ or or team has played in that spot every year except one. And the only time they didn't have it didn't happen was when Carolina was seven, eight and one and they were playing in that spot.
OK, Jacksonville, we've guaranteed Jacksonville plays the early game, first game in the wild card round. Pete Prisco guarantee.

I like that.

They did set it up for the Jaguars to play Saturday night so they could turn around and play Saturday again.

That's an advantage, by the way.

They have a disadvantage this week because the Titans have three days rest, but they

get an advantage if they win because the Chargers or whoever play on Sunday.

Yeah, so some of us are not lucky enough to have playoff teams, so I want to ask a draft

question.

The Bears look like as long as they lose on Sunday,

they'll have the number two pick.

What would you do if you were Ryan Poles?

And this is the first time I'm saying it out loud,

so this is breaking news.

I'm starting to get a little nervous that Ryan Poles,

like I've seen some quotes where he's like, yeah,

Justin Fields is an incredible runner, but he's got to get better as a passer.

Is there a chance that they trade him?

Okay, good.

No.

I don't want to.

Zero.

Okay.

Zero.

No, and Justin Fields will get better as a passer.

Agreed.

Watch the – I mean, you know, I do spinning top of the week every week.

I take an offensive lineman or an offensive line,

and I go through all the tape and I pick them out

and we make a little spinning top graphic and everything. And this week's the chicago bears oh they were bad last week yeah really bad yeah they've been bad all year riley reef was terrible the rookie left tackle he's going to be a good player brand joe he's going to be a good player but boy i'll tell you what they got beat up the other day and that's a problem so they got to get better on the offensive line and they got to give him some weapons I don't worry about him as a passer I think he's going to end up being a good passer not a great passer he's going to be a good passer but his threat with his legs is going to make him a really good passer because they can't defend him the right way so what would you do with the second pick would you trade it would you figure out a way to to package a deal and you know knowing I would the quarterbacks that are coming up well if you could get a deal I would do that I don't think anybody I don't I'm not sure this quarterback group warrants going up to get somebody oh I mean if you break it down Bryce Young is 5'9 I mean he 5'10 I love the way he throws a football but can you tell you know he was standing next to Mark Ingram the other day and he looked like the same size Mark Ingram's 5's 5'9".
I mean, that's a little quarterback. He's not a big guy.
Boy, he can sling it. So I would probably take him first or Levis, who had a bad year at Kentucky.
You know, you guys got on the John Allen train. You're going to probably get on the Will Levis train.
We've already started. Yeah, he's our friend.
He's a friend of the show. So we're.
So, he can spin it. He had a bad year this year because his team stunk, his line stunk, his receivers stunk, and all he did was turn his hand off because he got hurt.
What do you have, 10 and a half inch? Last year he was outstanding. Yeah, 10 and a half inch hands.
Pretty good hands. So, we measured him.
I mean, last year against Georgia he was really good, and that defense was loaded with NFL players. And then you have C.J.
Stroud who had his best game in the big moment I mean he was fantastic the other day so I think that but I don't think there's a Trevor Lawrence in this draft or one of those guys so I think that's a concern so I don't think you'll trade down maybe you can but Jalen Carter is a beast man from Georgia yep that kid is a monster okay I mean I monster. Will Anderson is a possibility

as well, if you're the Bears. I think

that's a strong possibility as well.

You need defensive help.

We need everything.

They've been in defense the last couple

weeks. They've been awful.
It's terrible.

It's absolutely terrible. We were just talking the other day

about how there's usually one surprise

coach that gets fired at the end of every season.

We're trying to figure out who that could be, or

maybe if there's multiples.

Is there one guy whose name could Thank you. about how there's usually one surprise coach that gets fired at the end of every season.
We're trying to figure out who that could be, or

maybe if there's multiples.

Is there one guy whose name could be

on the hot seat that isn't

the top of the list that everybody thinks could be

fired? This year, I don't see it.

You guys have Kingsbury on that list,

I would imagine. That's not a surprise.

Who else

do you have on the list?

Lovie Smith, potentially. Yeah, that's a potential.
If they want to go big splash, I could see them doing that. He actually did a good job with that team down the stretch because they don't have a ton of talent.
How about Rivera? Yeah, I think Rivera wanted to get fired. I don't understand exactly what's going on in D.C.
right now. Snyder's in a tough position, though, because do you fire a head coach as you're in the process of selling a team, and then you're stuck where you have to maybe make a new hire as somebody's bidding on your franchise? It seems like a bad time just in terms of logistics and financial stuff to axe a coach.
Am I way off on that? No, you're not way off and plus if you if you axe them to pay them you got to pay them and then you hire another one he's going to get paid and the new ownership might not want him that's what happened in denver yeah that you know nate hackett was hired before the new ownership took over so they're more apt to fire them now their new ownership has a ton of money so it's easy to just say hey get rid of them we'll pay them see and that's the trend nowadays these guys these owners now have so much money that they can fire guys and not really worry about the implications of it and that's the way it is it's it's you think about it he's going to be paying a coach for four more years gonna be paying two coaches for four years they don't care they have the cash to do it what about. What about Stefanski in Cleveland? I doubt it.
I doubt it. I mean, come on.
He played the whole year without a starting quarterback who they made that trade to go get and he didn't play. No, I don't think so.
I think they might force him to change the way he plays on offense and make him play a little bit more up-tempo and throw the ball around a little more, but I don't think they're going to fire him. Okay.
What about McCarthy? What does he have to do to stick around? Because it seems like this is the time of the year things heat up around Mike McCarthy. The expectation from Jerry Jones is to win, which is kind of ironic because they haven't really won since 1995, 1996, but that's the expectation.
He says that's the expectation, is he wants a Super Bowl. McCarthy feels like he could be a guy that could make the playoffs if he loses first round, still get fired.
Which I think would be wrong, but it's possible. Look, Mike's a better coach than people give him credit for.
I don't understand. The guy wins 11 games at least every year.
And he had Aaron Rodgers. I get it.
But still, he's a better coach than people give him credit for. That's one of those ones that has taken on life of its own in the Twitter cult world.
That's what that is. Oh, one guy says it.
Two say it. Four say it.
Eight. And then everybody, yeah, they're right.
Look, we all agree. Isn't that great on Twitter? That's what that is.
That's exactly what that is.

Mike's a better coach if people give him credit.

I do think he's a good coach, but I think that he's got big blind spots

where every time he's in a big game,

there's a moment where he either takes too long to make a decision

or he makes just one completely baffling decision per game

that ultimately ends up being a pretty big reason why they end up losing.

I hate to tell you, they all do. But when he does reason why they end up losing.
So I think he's...

I hate to tell you, they all do.

But when he does it, he's fatter.

He looks fat.

He looks really fat.

I mean, I know.

It takes one to know one.

But no, I mean, think about it.

You guys know too, by the way.

No, he's a better coach to get credit for.

They all make major mistakes.

Give me a break.

They all do.

Is Belichick at fault for what happened against the Raiders a couple weeks ago? That's his responsibility. He's the coach.
He did it. That's his fault.
It's Matt Patricia's actually. I do agree with that because it's the Belichick saying either you're coaching it or you're allowing it.
That's a great saying. Why didn't he take a knee knee take a knee and go to overtime if you're not going to throw a hail mary because you said he

could you felt he couldn't reach the end zone why didn't you take a knee because you're not going to

rip a 60 yard 65 yard run take the knee all he did was subject his team to more problems like

at the end of a half when a team gets the ball back with 30 seconds left they're not going to

try and go get points because that's not what they're going to do but they hand it off anyway

All right. to more problems.
This is like at the end of a half. When a team gets the ball back with 30 seconds left,

they're not going to try and go get points because that's not what they're going to do,

but they hand it off anyway.

What are you handing it off for?

What's the point of that?

All you can do is botch the handoff, and somebody fumbles,

and they get the ball there.

Stupid.

They all make major mistakes, every one of them.

Except you.

Just make your kicks.

That's all you got to do.

No, I would make them too because in the heat of the moment, you're going to do it. You would accidentally say, like, don't make this kick? If it doinks off the upright and in, you're good.
If it doinks off the upright and out, you're not. You're getting cut.
So, I mean, I would be just ready to grab. I always say it.
I joke around. Choke him.
Choke him. I would do it.
Alright, so one team we didn't talk about, and I think we're going to probably not talk about the Bills and Bengals because there's just a lot in limbo right now, but the Ravens. What's going on with Lamar Jackson? Is there anything that's going on that's like maybe if he had a contract, would he be back? It's all very confusing because I think the Ravens, if Lamar Jackson is healthy, they are another team

that you put in the category of teams that

you don't want to play them because their defense

is salty and having Lamar

is a game changer, obviously.

There's nothing in terms

of, I wouldn't believe that.

The kid's a competitor. He loves to compete.

I don't think he would do that. I just, you know,

judge him, but people I know and talk to,

no, I would say no. I'd agree.
So he's hurt.

He's hurt. So

him not being in the lineup changes Thank you. I don't think he would do that.
I just judge him by people I know and talk to. No, I would say no.
I'd agree.

So he's hurt.

He's hurt.

So him not being in the lineup changes the whole dynamic of that team.

I hope he gets back soon because it's fun to watch.

But you know what?

He wasn't playing that well either before he got hurt.

Their passing game is limited.

And when your passing game is limited, you have problems.

And this is a passing league. And I think they haven't exactly built a great group of people around them and i think that's hurt him but again you have to be able to throw the ball and you have to be able to throw from the pocket and he's a good pocket passer but he doesn't have a lot of weapons that's the problem yeah and i don't think he ever will in baltimore they are they're so committed to not receivers.
It's honestly impressive at this point. He wants the Sean Watson contract.
I mean, nobody's giving out those fully guaranteed deals like that. They can't.
I wouldn't do it. Right now, if you ask the Browns, are they happy with the fully guaranteed contract and all the picks they traded to get to Sean Watson after watching him the last four weeks? Are you happy with that? I don't think they are.
I think that's a wait and see. Yeah.
I think you got to judge that next year. Well, we know the Broncos aren't happy.
Are the Cardinals happy with their mega deal? No. Probably not.
No. That's fair.
Are they happy they gave Cliff Kingsbury a mega deal? No. No.
I mean, yeah. Everybody rushes.
See, what do you do with daniel jones yeah i i've been tag him yeah oh you think tag him because i was gonna say you i think daniel jones probably realizes that dable has resurrected his career and there might be a conversation they're like hey we like you we want you to be our quarterback we're not going to give you a ton of guaranteed money we're going to give you a fair deal but this is the place that you have the best chance to succeed and maybe daniel jones realizes that where it's mutually beneficial for both sides to figure out a deal that makes sense i wouldn't do i wouldn't do that if i were daniel jones get your money no. I mean, I'd like to stay here, but you're paying me.

I mean, obviously he's not going to get one of those $250 million deals,

but he's got to get a deal that's fair to him.

I mean, $20 million a year?

I mean, something like that?

$20-something million a year?

Couldn't you say that it works both ways in that situation,

where Daniel Jones is best suited playing for the Giants

and that he's more valuable to the Giants than he would be to another team on the open market. Like what team is going to be? What if another team paid him $5 million more a year? Do you really think that there's going to be like a lineup of teams that are trying to? There's no coaching value in that.
You're never going to get that back. No, I would not do that.
So what about Lamar the open market then like it the the fact of the matter is like he is an mvp that could hit the open market which like at the quarterback position never happens there will be teams that get into a bidding war with each other it might not be beneficial to give like i think you're right about deshaun and about kyler and some of the contracts you immediately have buyer's remorse sometimes and i wouldn't be surprised if team had buyer's remorse right after they got Lamar, if it comes to that. But at the same time, there's going to be a bidding war between multiple franchises.
So it's probably going to get to a point where it is a lot of guaranteed money, just like those other contracts. No, you're not going to fully guarantee.
You can give them a lot of, they've offered them a lot of guaranteed money. They've offered them basically the Russell Wilson deal.
He could get that deal if he wants it. He wants the Deshaun Watson deal, from what I heard, and they're not going to fully guarantee.
The owners in this league don't want a fully guaranteed contract. They were all mad that they did that in the first place.
Look, he hasn't finished the season, right? That's a concern with him. Health is a concern when you're a quarterback.
I love the kid. He should take the deal in Baltimore.
It's a good deal. It's a fair deal.
And you're not going to get a fully guaranteed contract. The problem is he's negotiating his deal.
That's always an issue. That's a tough thing.
I think I'm worth this. Well, we think you're worth that.
How do you negotiate against him? You tell your star quarterback you're trying to sign him. But, yeah, but you have a little bit of flaw here, a little bit of flaw there.
You leave the pocket too haven't been healthy enough How do you sell them that when you're negotiating against them When you're trying to sign them to a long-term deal It's a tough negotiation So I think ultimately They can tag them two years in a row by the way There would be a lot of cap in But they could do it That's a good point I haven't heard a lot of people say that But it's true that if you're the one that's doing the negotiation with your boss, they're going to have to tell you all the things they don't like about you as justification for not meeting your asking price. And then naturally, that's going to that's going to piss you off.
Like, you know, that's going to make that working relationship a little bit worse hearing that. Of course.
And it's like, you know, the agent can come tell you, but it's not the same as you hearing it and looking you in the face and saying, hey, Lamar, we'd love to pay you $250 million.

But this is why we're only going to pay $245 million because let's go back.

We'll pop on the tape.

Here you are leaving six clean pockets when you should have stayed in there and hit the shot down the middle of the field.

Nobody wants to hear that.

It's a bad negotiation.

And the Bravens are in a tough spot because if they take advantage of them, they look like the bad guy in the deal. So it really is a complex negotiation.
All right, so last question for me, Pete. Are you sticking with your Super Bowl prediction? Are you going Bills over Packers? I'll let you have a mulligan if you'd like.
I mean, no, I'm going to take the Bills and the 49ers. Okay.
You coward. You're an absolute coward.
I mean, they're going to have to go on the road three straight weeks. Hey.
Think about it. They'll have to win.
I mean, okay, if they play the Vikings in week one at Minnesota, who are you picking? The Packers. Okay.
So then they would win that game, and they'd go play the one seed. The Eagles.
Eagles. They lose.
That's not. No.
They they probably lose but that's not saying they can't win it the one i i think the one the 49ers of the team they don't want to play the pack yeah that's my agreed yeah but we've seen that that that mac truck run them over in the postseason that give a couple times yeah all right so if we got the packers at the 49ers week one, let's drag you into the hatred that Vikings Twitter has for us right now.

Yeah.

I want you involved in that.

Giants at the Vikings, opening round of the playoffs,

convince me that the Giants win that game.

They should have beat them two weeks ago.

I mean, that was a game they should have won.

There were drop passes, key drop passes in that game for the Giants.

Daniel Jones was outstanding that day.

They should have won that game.

And here's the other thing about the Giants.

Thank you. That was a game they should have won.
There were drop passes, key drop passes in that game for the Giants. Daniel Jones was outstanding that day.

They should have won that game.

And here's the other thing about the Giants.

Those young pass rushers are starting to grow up.

Thibodeau, who I thought was going to be the best pass rusher in that class,

he's starting to show up now.

And that's a problem.

Post-season passers, pass rushers.

It's always been that.

It always will be. You know, 25 years ago, run it, play good run defense.
now it's passers and knock that guy down and you got to go through every list who has a game record on defense you have to have a game record to succeed you know last year the everybody says well the bangles how'd they get there Hendrickson was a game record last year he had you know almost 20 sacks you have to have a game record to win in the postseason i I like it. Game records.
Game records. So you think the Vikings are frauds? Can we get you on record? I've said that word before, and I heard it got back to them, and they were real happy about it.
Yeah. Look, I've been – you guys say I've been critical of Russell Wilson.
I've been just as critical of Kirk Cousins. I think there's a glazed look that comes over his face, you know, in moments, and when it does, you know it's happening you know it's happening.
Rick Spielman, the former Vikings GM, works with us every Sunday. We're watching the games together.
And I'll start going like this. I go, there's the look, Rick.
There it is. You can see it.
Yeah, you've done that like 12 times this season. They've won all those games.
That's the problem. Why he didn't win last Sunday? That's true, i they do you know what i'll say go ahead i'll say i'll before a game i'll say hey rick this is a big game and we know what kirk cousins record is a big game okay rick so it's not a big game it's not a big game and i go it's a big game and there he was i mean look you guys trust him no no no we get killed for it because mean, 12-4 is 12-4.
You can't knock the fact that they have had a knack for winning these close games, and that does take a toughness. And Justin Jefferson is the best receiver in the NFL.
But, yeah, I mean, it's been our take all year. Like, we know who Kirk Cousins is.
He's a better-than-average quarterback, but he's not going to go win you a game like Mahomes, Allen, Burrow,

Brady, Rogers, all these guys.

There's always the win with and the win because of quarterbacks,

and he's the win with, not a win because of.

That's the difference.

Yeah, okay.

All right, so you're on record.

By the way, the AFC is loaded with win because of quarterbacks.

Yeah, it's true. I mean, you could even throw Justin Herbert in there, the AFC is loaded with win because of quarterbacks.
Yeah, it's true.

I mean, you could even throw Justin Herbert in there the way he's been playing.

Herbert, Lawrence will be there.

He's getting there.

You know, Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, win with.

Kenny Pickett?

Win because of, not win with.

I like Kenny Pickett.

Kenny Pickett's got that.

He's got a little Joe Burrow swagger to him, you know?

A little confident, cocky guy that believes in himself.

I like Kenny Pickett.

Facts.

Thank you. You want to make a bet? You want to make a bet that you can see abs on us at the Super Bowl? A, I really don't want to see your abs, but B, there's no way.
40 days. It's 40 days.
You're going to have abs in 40 days because right now I don't see anything close to abs, nor do you see anything close to abs for me.

I just lost my hands inside my stomach.

It's a football season.

You're guilty of it.

You're going to go watch games.

He's going to have donuts on Sunday.

You're going to go Saturday.

You're going to go watch games and have wings and beer or whatever.

I hate wings and beer.

You're wrong. You're so wrong, Pete.
Something's going in there. Something's going in there.
I probably will still get donuts. See, me, I just admit it.
I had pizza twice this week. I mean, I admit it.
I started my diet today, too. Well, you're Italian.
Your blood type's marinara. You're going to have...
I guarantee, Big Cat, you have donuts on Saturday. Guaranteed there's a box full.
It's cheat a box full It's cheat day Do I not get a cheat day? The problem with cheat day is cheat day runs into cheat week And cheat week runs into cheat month And you two are not going to have abs You're so wrong I'm going to have abs You still owe me a push up contest You've been welching on that one for about 7 years You wanted to get bombed and do it Yeah. Yeah, I did.
I want to drink a full Mad Dog and do a push-up contest. That challenge is still on the table, by the way, Pete.
I'm pretty sure I could drink an entire Mad Dog and probably do twice as many push-ups as you. Pete.
Right now, you might be able to. Pete, listen.
We know you're Italian. You're a horny man just by nature.
Don't try to kiss me when you see how good a shape I'm in. All right? Off limits.
I might send you a box of donuts every Tuesday just to keep it going. Because you know the drill, guys.
If it's in front of you, you're going to put your hand in that box and eat it. Nope.
That's what I always say. Yeah, that's a horny Italian.
What is your diet today? Let's hear it. What did you eat today? I guarantee you ate something bad this morning for breakfast.
Guaranteed no i had i had two eggs and bacon no carbs i had i had one piece of turkey jerky so so you're on no carb diet yeah okay so you're you can eat bacon and egg there anything all right so you come in maybe you will have some abs and you'll have arteries that are clogged like a rock all right pete you right, Pete, you're the best, man. We appreciate it.
Thank you as always. Thank you, Pete.
All right, see you at the Super Bowl. All right, guys, take care.
And now for something completely different. All right, one question with the quarterback time.
We welcome on recurring guest, friend of the program, and soon to be playing in the national championship on Monday night it is TCU quarterback Max Duggan uh Max congratulations incredible game we're turning we're we're moving on to the next game but we're going to first do one question with you uh from everyone here my question is very simple um one to ten how much does the hypno toad help you guys out on the field 10 absolutely yeah and we if we if we didn't have it i don't know we would have had the season that we're having right now honestly yeah the powers you know the things that they talk about i mean kind of trippy but you know it works yeah, I mean, every time I see it, I'm like, well, there goes that game.

Like, TCU's got it.

If you weren't a believer before, you're damn sure a believer now.

Yes, yes.

A hundred percent.

Yeah, you've got to be on the train now.

Yep.

Okay, my question is, at this point,

you're reaching the national championship game in college football.

You're the quarterback of one of the teams. Are you the best redheaded college football player of all time? Ooh, there are Andy Dolan.
Andy Dolan went to TCU, and he was a legend. So, I mean, I don't know the other redheads that are around college football, but, you know, that might be a goal to kind of reach, you know,

like those guys though.

Andy is still kind of the legacy at TCU that I'm still trying to be like.

Right.

He walks so that you could run.

But I was going through the list earlier,

and it's like you could maybe consider Carson Palmer to be a redheaded guy.

Some people would say it's more of like a strawberry blonde type deal.

I think if you win this game, there can be no more debate. You are him.
Yeah. Yeah.
That would, that would be, that'd be something special. And maybe we need to start getting more redheaded, you know, playing quarterback in college football in the NFL, you know, representation.
We're dying slowly, which is not good. You know, it's actually, you know what, who's actually a sneaky redhead Spencer Rattler.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
He is. He is.
So there you go. You got a couple out there.
All right, Billy, go ahead. What's up, Max? Reports on TikTok say that you're licking your fingers to get the frogs hornier.
You know, if the report says that and it's helping us win, I'm all about trying to get us to win. So if that's what it man i'm gonna keep it going reports confirmed reports you know billy's about to drop some fire when it starts with reports from tiktok say yeah hypnotones getting licked up knows apparently yeah absolutely all right jake hey max jake marsh part of my take podcast congratulations on reaching the national championship game uh to Big Cat's question, how much of a hot seat does your current mascot, the Super Frog, feel that he could be eventually replaced with the Hypnotoad moving forward? You know, I don't think Super Frog's on the hot seat.
I think it's more like a brother, you know, with the Hypnotoad. I think it's a very fun, entertaining cousin that you have.
you have yeah that's always coming to the the barbecues i think that's kind of where we're at no hot seat you know they're they're super box not going anywhere yeah dave did mention because he's at the game that he just got hypno toted to death and the and the tcu i actually have experience from it from the 2011 rose bowl uh wisconsin versus t. Andy Dalton, you guys were just fucking doing the frogs in my face the whole time.
I was like, get this fucking out of my face. I can't do anything.
Frog up. Yeah.
Yeah. The frog's like the best hand sign or whatever you want to like hand.
It really is. It's a good.
I like to go wide with it. I like to make it the toad chode and give it a little bit of girth to it.
Well, that kind of looks like Tua. Oh, yeah, that's true.
Be careful. Be careful.
Be careful. All right.
Our Max. Hey, Max.
Max here. Do you kind of wish you could have played in the Arizona Bowl instead of the college football playoffs? I mean, I was watching it.
It looked like a pretty fun time. Like, you know, Dan singing National Anthem.
I was watching the broadcast. You know, Dave, Dan, you know, Jake, you guys were doing awesome.
Obviously, all the sideline interviews with Caleb, you know, seemed like a pretty fun game to be a part of. Yeah, it was.
I think I actually will say that Ohio is the true national champion because that was a crazy ending. It was a crazy ending.
Greatest catch in college football history, some are saying. Some are saying.
Yeah, some are saying. Memes, do you have a question? What's your hand size? Good question.
I have no idea. Put it on.
Let's see. Put it on.
Can you hold a pen in it? Okay. I have a mouse.
Yeah, put a mouse. Oh, yeah.
Okay, that's a pretty good hand. I don't know.
I don't think they're like giant. Hopefully they're not small, though.
Yeah. I'm not going to ask a question because I already used my question, but if I were to ask another question, it would just be, are you able to hold on to a football in bad weather easily but i didn't ask that yeah you didn't ask that did not ask that um without asking me just thinking about the randomly i think so obviously playing in iowa you get a little bit of cold weather yep true okay true true it's been all right though you know i haven't had to use any gloves so far so far.
So, I mean, we'll see if I have to get to that point. Maybe just treat out a picture of you like eating lunch, holding a hot dog, and we can judge on that.
All right, that's fair. Okay.
All right, and then, Max, do you have a question for us? Okay. Yeah, for you guys, okay.
Right? What is the dream, like, championship sporting event that you guys could go to and be at live? Whether it's Masters, National Championship, Stanley Cup Finals, World Series, dream championship event that you guys go to? Yeah, that's a good question. I think it would be Bears winning a Super Bowl because obviously a losing game would be.
The Super Bowl is the number one. Super Bowl would be great.
I was thinking if it was a Stanley Cup someplace really fun, like maybe in Las Vegas, and then you go out and you party with the team, you drink from the cup. That seems like the best possible scenario, if that could ever happen to me.
Oh, my God. I would be so happy.
Masters would be pretty sick, too. Yeah, it's coming down like 18th green, Masters, like Augusto.
If you have the front row. On the glass Stanley Cup, like overtime 3-3, game seven.
I actually – I'm thinking about like what would be the best games to be at. That Villanova buzzer beater would probably be up there.
Just because a buzzer beater is like a buzzer beater to win a national championship or a buzzer beater to win an NBA championship. Like, that would just be all the time.
A true buzzer beater. You know what would be great? Like, a buzzer beater at the Olympics in basketball where the USA Wins yeah that would be pretty cool

Because then you get the whole actually like

If the USA ever won a World Cup

That would be an incredible game to be at as well

That will never happen or the

Iditarod because then right after it's over you just

Boop all the good boys

Or Joe Carter walk off

Home run to win the World Series yeah that's pretty good too

That would be there's a lot anything that's the

Finale yeah like the

Way to end the game

Overtime goal to win a World Series. Yeah, that's pretty good, too.
That would be. There's a lot.
Anything that's the finale. Yeah, like the way to end the game, overtime goal to win a Stanley Cup.
Yeah. Okay.
That's a good question. Yeah.
What's your answer? I would say probably Stanley Cup. On the glass, overtime.
I don't know. There are a lot, though.
I don't know. I think that would be kind of like the most, like, whatever, like adrenaline rush ever.
So by Stadium maybe for the national championship and maybe not to name names, but let's just say hypothetically Sonny Dykes is like, hey, my quarterback actually can run and we have like overtime, you know, fourth and goal. Let's use him and not use a running back here.
Something like that. I think the best possible position would be under center as your team is winning a national championship and you're putting one knee on the ground on the field.
That would be a pretty good field. Victory formations, best formation in football.
Yeah. Okay.
Well, Max, best of luck. We're rooting for you.
I am. Very much so.
The dream season continues Monday night, TCU versus Georgia. We appreciate it, man.
And, yeah, good luck on Monday night. We'll be watching, obviously.
Yeah, I appreciate you all having me on. And, you know, we didn't forget about that pizza party.
Hopefully we get a win. Oh, that's right.
I know. I got a couple tweets.
I got a couple tweets being like, you're about to have to give a big pizza party. Yeah, that's going to be shit.
That's a lot of pizza. That's probably like $10,000 worth of pizza that we got to buy.
I will absolutely. Listen, I'm a man of my word.
This is what happens all the time on this show is we just get really into things for a while. We just suspended people left and right until it got out of hand.
Now we're just obsessed with pizza parties. So this would be a fitting ending to this new kick.
It's also, I mean, look, we, you know, we'll see what happens in the game, but there's a way for the pizza party to pay for itself. True.
We're going to try to make something work for y'all. I can deliver them and make sure they get there.
Nope. Billy's not allowed to deliver them.
We'll have Jake come and deliver deliver them He'll just be looking all across the campus To find a toad to fuck Like where are these toads I need these toads Alright thank you Max And hopefully we'll see you for the pizza party Yes sir appreciate y'all Okay we're rooting for Max We do have to Do we ever figure out how much pizza We're thinking it's going to be something like $ thousand dollars okay pizza that's not not as bad as i thought it was going to be yeah we listened back i believe it was 150 pizzas 150 200 pizzas something like that hand deliver we said we were going to hand deliver we didn't say that okay so we all right i gotta double check but yeah yeah we'll get around that number i'm rooting for tcu um are you ready hank so everyone who's been listening to this show for a long time, we had a period of time. It started at 1-2.
Okay. So it's been exactly a year.
We had a period of time where we were bonking each other. It got out of hand.
We decided that Hank is going to just create a bonk list where he keeps track of all the bonks. And now that it's been a full year, he's ready to give it to us.
So you're going to do this every year now. Yeah, I think this year I'll do a better job keeping the notes because, I mean, I don't know if people are either going to be disappointed or think it's funny.
I think some of them are funny, but some of them, there's just no context. No context bonk.
Yeah. I like it.
Yeah, because, you know, it's in the middle of the show. PFT, when I was talking about doing this the other day, PFT was like, I didn't think you actually kept the list.
Yeah, I stopped seeing you write stuff down after like a week. Oh, I've seen him do it.
I assume you gave up. Yeah.
I know, though, if anyone else read the list, it would make no sense. I don't think it makes sense to hang.
Right. Right.
Okay. Right.
Can I just take a look? No, no, no, it's fine.

I'm going to read exactly what I've written.

It's not like there's a lot of, again, no context.

How many bonks total?

A lot. So these are officially

the horniest moments of PMT 2021?

And there's definitely some missing, so people will get,

I think people will probably be more upset, whatever.

Can we do real bonks with a bonk stick? No.

Alright, 1-2

1-2-22 PFT brings up OBJ fisting a guy out of the clouds. It was actually a highlight where he tried to punch a guy in the butthole.
Yeah. So I figured it was sports worthy to talk about.
I don't think we should try to defend these. Okay.
All right. No defense.
You know what I mean? That one I will defend, though, because it was in the context of a sports show. This is a sports podcast, after all.
I think we should just, yeah, we should just enjoy the bonks. And he loves shit.
He loves poop. Yeah.
1-4-22, Big Cat brings up Tristan Thompson's sex tape. Yep.
It's a good one. He's got a good stroke game.
On 1-7-22, someone said- Wait, what order are we going? Wait, did you say 1-4? That-4. It was 1-7.
Sounds like we're pretty horny on this show. No, it gets lessened.
Yeah, I kind of eased up. 1-7-22, someone said it's going to be a soft opening, and PFT said that's the best kind of opening.
Okay. That's true.
What? You want like a metal gate? On 1-10, again, context, i don't i i just wrote turning my covid diagnosis into a love story with aoc and it's with a pft tweet uh oh okay here it is i said i have covid 110 22 pft said hmm so does aoc oh okay okay uh 118 22 big cat tells Braxton Berrios. He's a good looking dude.
Yeah. Ooh.
Okay. Okay.
Uh, 118.22.

Big Cat tells Braxton Berrios he's a good looking dude.

Yeah,

okay.

Yeah,

I stand by that.

He's a hot dude.

He's a hot body.

Also on 118.22,

PFT and Big Cat both say they want to fuck Queso.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

That stands.

These are good ones.

Might have been in the context of an FMK,

maybe.

But yeah,

regardless, I would have sex with Queso. No, see, I wouldn't put that on the bonk list if it's FMK.
Yeah, that stands. These are good ones.
Might have been in the context of an FMK, maybe. But yeah, regardless, I would have sex with queso.
No, see, I wouldn't put that on the bonk list if it's an FMK. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, no, I'm standing by all my bonks. I would fuck queso, yeah.
2922, PFT likes an Adidas tweet that was just a bunch of tits. Yeah, I remember that too.
That was a good tweet. It's one of my favorites.
21022, PFT followed every person named Brandy on Instagram just in case one of them was Coach O's wife. Oh, okay.
Just doing some investigative research. That one's made up.
I never did that. Why would I write this down? You might have done that.
You might have said you were going to do that. You definitely said you were going to do that.
That's why I got on the list. I never did that.
No, you might not have done it, but you said you were going to do it. Okay, got it.
Okay. 225.
PFT calls Brittany Renner a personal hero of his with Coach Prime. Yeah.
Yep. That sounds right.
3-8. PFT asks all women to DM him if they are upset aaron rogers stealing their shine on international women's day okay yeah uh 3 13 big cat tells john rostein his wife is hot to his face and then tries to take her out on a date slash wife swap that was aggressive but john ri deserves to be, you know, it's full court press.

If we want to do basketball terms, John, full court press.

322, PFT calls Meat Ranch a euthanism for cum.

Okay.

327, Big Cat calls Coach K's wife sexy, in quotes, when Nikki Kursevsky rolls up looking all hot.

327, PFT rolls up looking all hot. 327.

PFT brings up a nip slip during the Oscars slap conversation.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Big Cat says he will skull fuck Tim Dillon.

I think that was a tweet.

Oh, I have skull fuck for him.

I will skull fuck for him.

Let's pull up the tweet.

I did link the tweet.

I think he needed a skull fuck. Yeah, no, he said, I will skull fuck Tim Dillon.
Just say the word. Oh, okay.
That's a fucking a man situation. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah. I will skull fuck Tim Dillon.
I'm not his type, I don't think. 331, PFT says he wants to get slapped by a girl in New Orleans.
Yep. Check.
4-2, this is where my reporting, maybe not the best, it doesn't have a name. It just says 4-2.
Says he doesn't think Coach K's wife wears underwear. I'm going to go with Big Cat.
I don't know. That might be a PFT.
I think that was me. I think that was PFT.
I remember that, yeah. She is a good-looking lady, though.
She's very hot. Imagine how much he's tearing that up now that he's retired.
You know what? I think it was when she like verbally

or sorry, not physically

abused her grandkid and I was like, damn.

Yeah, choke me. I like the way she's doing that.

4.7

PFC says the new MLB bases

are really getting him going.

They're bigger. What can I say?

They're thick as hell.

4.24?

Big Cat says Luca has a wagon of an ass.

He does.

He does.

That's why he's good.

5'1".

PFT says sometimes you randomly Google search as coach's wives.

You want to know, right?

That's internet 1.0.

You want to know.

5'7".

PFT says he loves all moms on Mother's Day.

5'12".

Big Cat mentioned boners when we talked about bones moving.

Again, context, couldn't tell you.

Yep.

5.15, PFT says the Suns needed AJ Titties at halftime.

Yeah, he did.

He's been hitting that AJ Titties button.

5.27, PFT says he hates teeth.

Oh, okay.

All right.

I think most people do, but yeah.

I could do without them. 5.31, I mean, yeah.
5, okay. All right.
I think most people do, but yeah. I could do without him.

531.

I mean, yeah.

531.

PFT says he wishes there was a boob in Top Gun.

Yeah, that's my only criticism.

Yeah.

Should have been a boob.

One nipple.

That's all I wanted.

Got everything else in there.

620.

Big Cat says he can't wait for Batty South to come out. Oh, yeah, that show.
Yeah, you guys shamed me so hard. Remember I saw that preview? They were ripping each other's hair out of their head and just going absolutely crazy on each other.
I never actually watched it. I'd like to put that on the bonk this year.
I'm going to watch Batty South. Callback, again, theme here.
622, Big Cat says Luka Doncic is a super attractive dude. I like his vibe.
I like everything he's got going on. Dude, he dropped 60 the other night.
Yeah, he's got the ass. He's got the cool tattoos.
Accent. Yeah, everything.
Drinking a beer before the game. He's a fucking cool dude.
He's a cool dude I'd like to spend some time with. Get to know a little better.
629, Big Cat says the phrase wild thing, and PFT tries to bonk him, but Big Cat says it's actually a bonk on him. What was the wild thing? Again.
And you were thinking wild things. The movie, yeah.
Yeah, so that is a bonk on you. Do you want me to keep track this year with context? Yeah.
I kind of like Hank. Well, no, you do backup.
I'll do a better job. Yeah, you do backup context so we can, we'll have two sources.
Okay. Yeah, it'll be good because then.
But we don't have anything yet, right? No. No, no, we have not.
Well, you can put me on for future Batty South. We'll also, we'll try and do better with timestamps to make a video of everything.
Yes, yes. July 5th, Big Cat talks about siphoning gas.
I don't think that's a wrong. I don't.
I won siphon gas in college and I ended up drinking a lot of the gas for my moped. Yeah, you gotta suck it out with the hose.
It comes out faster. That's a bonk on Hank for thinking that was sexual.
Big Cat was just trying to save money. I was talking about a story how I tried to siphon gas when I needed some gas for my moped and it comes comes out really fast, and I swallowed a lot of gasoline.

You just like the image of a hose wrapped around my lips.

Listen, I'm just reading the list.

Hey, Jake, put that on the bonk list for next year.

Hank, imagine Big Cat giving head to a hose.

To Hank's hose.

714, PFT mentions cam girls

while going through a list of cams

when discussing Cam Smith and Cam Young in

the open.

Top G.

Sorry for being a top G.

721.

PFT says he wants a breakfast Crunchwrap to choke him out with a dog leash and then throw

him into an active volcano.

Peg me with a frozen popsicle made of Baja Blast.

Nice.

And then parentheses I wrote cosine.

Yeah, it's good.

That's how good the Crunchwrap is. PFT.
723. PFT says he wishes the Statue of Liberty was lower cut and had more cake in her cheeks.
Yeah. 731.
PFT says Jane Jetson was an absolute fox. Okay.
It's fact. It's fact.
731. Quote, I love when Jerry Jones inserts himself in any way.

Big Cat, followed by a bonk by PFT, and then said, that's a you bonk.

So that's another theme.

Yeah.

Disambiguation.

PFT, 731.

A pong with bonk.

Sometimes it's like a smelted delta.

So in that case, Big Cat was probably not being horny.

Yeah, and you did.

And then I, yeah.

You just went. I think, are we finding out that you might be the horniest on the podcast? There's been a pretty.
We got time. It's been going back and forth.
Big Cat says, now we just do hand jobs, get more people coming. We're talking about how we don't say suck our dicks anymore.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Yeah. Eight, nine.
Big Cat says he'll let Billy pee in his mouth in order to complete the food challenge. Okay.
8-17, PFT says Zach Wilson's going to Ball Out versus the Lions because he knows Aiden Hutchinson's MILF mom will be in the stands. 9-1, Big Cat says he kind of likes the people who jerk off on trains.
I mean, I think that they're just living their best life. By the way, Jake's been making a disgusted face to every single one of these guys.
Is it good on 9-8? I defend that. Billy making his first appearance on the list.
9-8, Billy says he wants to be put in solitary confinement with just a dildo. I don't remember.
Yeah, makes sense. 9-11, memes post a picture Of Driscoll's Huge ass On 9-11 Yeah Jeff Driscoll's Huge ass You'll never forget He does love that picture He loves that picture Yeah I only see that picture From our account I know I know It's a For people who don't know It's Jeff Driscoll's Huge ass And it's kind of It's wet So you can kind of See through It's such a weird picture Why did he post that On 9-11 Yeah I don't know, it's Jeff Driscoll's huge ass, and it's kind of wet, so you can kind of see through.
It's such a weird pic. Why did he post that on 9-11? Yeah.
I don't know. 9-18, PFT says his throat is wide open, and to shove it into Robert Sala when talking about Jets win.
That's the receipts. The receipts.
Oh, yeah, we've got to circle back on the receipts. Actually, 10-16.
I've got to throw through a bunch of receipts now. This is, again, 1016.

Big Cat and PFT say their mouths are wide open for Robert Sala.

Okay.

1016.

Again, missed bad labeling here.

I don't have the name.

Thought, so choose your own adventure for who.

Thought that my satirical Haley Bieber Selena Gomez was horny when it was just regular satire.

Also not mad that he got called out for it. I'm going to say that's PFT.
That was me. That was me, yeah.
For sure. I wasn't mad.
You got that one right. Yeah, that part's right.
I'm still not mad. PFT says he would suck a dick to play in Billy McFarlane's Festival, 1024.
Okay. 11-2.
Big Cat mentions Pogs, and Billy thought he was talking about Pogs. I remember that.
I'm sorry about fucking little game we played in the late 90s with the what were they? Just plastic caps? Yeah, and the slammers and Billy was all horned up. Protect all Pogs.
1117, PFT says Joe Burrow is way hotter than Kenny Pickett when they both have girl filters on. Okay, yeah.
And then 1228, Big Cat says he's ready to dong it up for the Arizona Bowl broadcast with the Telestrator. Oh, yeah.
That was the final bonk of the year. Yeah.
And he got one in. Yeah.
He did. That's what he said.
He got his dong in. All right.
So what was the final tally? I think PFT ran away with that. I would say ran away with that.
I'd say we felt like it was three to one every time. I think we've got a good...
We're a red-blooded American male podcast. Yeah, we got testosterone.
Yeah, sorry for being masculine. We won't apologize for being guys.
Yeah. You win the bonk.
All right, bonk. Billy loves this fucking thing.
All right. I mean, a guy from Amazon...
Yeah. All right, I've been bonked.
All right, good job, Hank. I think that's a great way of doing it.

So we'll be better detailed going forward.

Yeah, I'll just give Jake my notes and he can whatever.

What do you do?

Put them into a format?

When you search for a research paper.

Wait, did you just drop a biblioteque?

Like the Spanish word?

Bibliography.

We're excited.

We're excited.

Biblioteca. Biblioteca.
Yeah, you can put in one of those bibliotecas. You can yell Donde Esta.
Put in your Albano. Biblioteca.
Okay. Time for numbers.
So have you splashed the pot? No, I thought we were doing Sundays. No, well, we should at least start.
Yeah, 20 20 bucks on Sunday Well, let's start with Everyone just owes 20 bucks right now Because it would have been Sunday I'll splash the pot for Friday But I don't know that this counts for pot splashing Oh yeah, this counts It's only Sunday So you're not putting anything in here Not until Sunday I thought we were doing Sunday Why not today? I thought it was every day We didn't do it on Sunday No, it's once a week Okay, okay, this counts. It's only Sunday.
So you're not putting anything in here? Not until Sunday. I thought we were doing Sunday.
Why not today? What about Thursday? No, it was last Sunday. We didn't do it on Sunday.
No, it's once a week. Okay, 20 makes sense.
Yeah, yeah. I thought it was every time.
All right, if Hank's not going to, I'll splash the pot for Hank. All right, great.
I'll splash the pot, but yeah, I'll splash it. All right, so what's the pot? The pot's at $120.
Everyone owes $20. The pot's at $120.
If they win, it's $240 because Hank will have to match.

And you still are never going to get it.

I'm going to splash it.

I hope he gets it right now.

So bad.

17.

69.

23.

57.

20.

18.

And to confirm, Sebastian, it's over.

Yeah, it's over.

Actually, I'd like to change mine to 54.

Yeah.

All right.

So what was your number, Hank?

54. 23.
Have you ever gotten this? No. Shout out Parker Titsworth.
Gave me a jersey. Arizona Bowl star.
This is the first time I'm actually rooting for Hank. It would be awesome.
It would be incredible. It is completely flipped on him.
57. It's sentimental to me.
My friend of mine has brand new babies in his family, so I did the birthdays of both the babies. 27.
Oh, new. New.
Yes. Oh, now it's a race against time.
It's lottery ball versus Hank. Man versus machine.
What do we have? 6, 26, 29. 27 has entered the chat.
Wait, so 6, 26, 29 is it? Yep. So 97 of the 100 numbers have been picked.
Wow. Wait, what's the thing again? If all 100 was that thing? If all 100 get picked before Hank, I think Hank should owe us money.
I think if all 100 get picked before Hank. Oh, no.
Sorry's do that. It was...
Let's do that. If you did all 100 and everyone besides his number was last, you like...
No, I think what we should do is if the lottery ball machine picks every single number and Hank still hasn't gotten it right, we have to build a human-sized lottery ball machine and put Hank in it. What if he just picks one of the numbers, though? I've had so many people DMing me asking if 27 was in the thing.
Here they are. Okay, I actually think Hank should have to get a tattoo.
Three is no longer in. Hank, you should have to get a tattoo of the number that beats you.
It should be like a lottery ball that you get tattooed on your body somewhere. So 626-29.
Three numbers remaining. You should have to get a tattoo.
You can't guess the number. I will.
If it's a 29 ball, you should have to get an orange ping pong ball that says 29. Three numbers remaining.
You should have to get a tattoo. You can't guess the number.

I will.

If it's a 29 ball, you should have to get an orange ping pong ball that says 29 on it.

Okay.

So you're going to get a tattoo?

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure.

If I don't guess.

Well, I mean, I guess it also comes.

Other people could guess the number first.

Sure.

Let's do one more. Does count doesn't count Hank go ahead guess just it does it count no yeah three 51 should I tweet uh something that's never happened before just happened with the lottery ball People would be so mad Alright we'll see everyone Friday

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I'll be coming for your lover, okay?

I'll be coming for your lover, okay?

Fake on me.

Fake on me.

Fake me on.

Fake on me.

I'll be gone.

Here you go. Needless to say I've all decided But I'll be in some little way Slowly learning that life is okay Say after me It's better to be safe than sorry It's better to be safe than sorry It's better to be safe than sorry Take on me you Thank you.
Take me on me

Take me on me

I'll be gone