Week 17 NFL Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Jets & Commanders Eliminated, Packers Stay Alive & College Football Playoffs

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On today's part in my take, week 17 of the NFL. We're going to start with fastest two minutes.

Speaker 1 We are going to talk about every single game. There have been some eliminations that have taken place in this room.

Speaker 1 A lot of moving and shaking. Teams are, their seasons are officially over.

Speaker 1 And we're going to do who's back of the week, football guy of the week. Talk a little college football as well.
The best college football playoffs we've ever seen, semifinals.

Speaker 1 I like how people were tweeting, like, is it a hot take to say these are the best semifinals we've ever seen? No, they usually always suck, and those were two incredible games.

Speaker 1 So, we're going to talk about all of it. A lot of football to get to.
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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, January 2nd,

Speaker 1 week 17.

Speaker 1 Let us be the first to wish you a happy new year.

Speaker 2 And a blessed jumpsuit January to you, both.

Speaker 1 We start in Tampa Bay, where Tom Tom Wayne Brady looked like he wanted to choke a bitch as he continues to play who's on the offensive line anyway this year.

Speaker 1 The Panthers had some life as painfully shy Smith asked Sam Darnold, pick me, pick me, hooking up for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 And the game turned when Mike Sean Evans went on a heater, catching three touchdowns and saying, look at us, the Bucs is NFC South champs. Who would have thought?

Speaker 1 Well, literally everyone, but it was a lot harder than we thought at the beginning of the season. The Bucs are NFC South champs.
Bucs 30. Panthers 24.

Speaker 1 Over to Kansas City, where Russell and Flo Wilson said it's hard out here for a sip, as interim head coach Jerry Mossberg had him lining up in shotgun all afternoon.

Speaker 1 Pat Rick Riley Mahomes had the same amount of touchdowns as Kate Upton's boobs with three.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs are waiting for the playoffs as blink me up before you go, girl, Bell scored a touchdown, and George Michael Carloftis submitted another game with a sack.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs, 24, the Broncos, Chiefs, 27, the Broncos, 24. He almost slipped up there, bro.
Slipped up. Last year, you've never made.
You stay up till midnight.

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Speaker 1 Up to Foxborough as Mac Efron goes back and forth between looking like a serial killer, taking out other players' knees, and looking really good like he did on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Teddy, Bridge, one of those couldn't make up for Jason Sanders' ugly kicks and had to leave the game with a broken finger as Skylar Hunter S.

Speaker 1 Thompson came into the game and helped the Dolphins playoff chances go Gonzo. Don't look now, Tege, but the Patriots have a shot at the playoffs in week 18.
Patriots 23, Dolphins 21.

Speaker 1 We go down to D.C. where, scot me if you've heard this before, but Deshaun Watson got penalized for illegal touching.

Speaker 1 But Washington, on the other hand, couldn't get their hands on Chubb as he ran for 104 yards. Amari Minnie Cooper doesn't miss his full-size Derek Carr as he was able to score twice.

Speaker 1 As for the Commanders, their playoff hopes came and winced, and Sean Taylor Heineke might as well have been a statue on the sidelines with no arms or legs. Don't let the Browns get hot.
Cleveland, 24.

Speaker 1 Washington, 24.

Speaker 1 Browns, 10. That was my thought.
That was on the television. That was my first time.

Speaker 1 It's a new year. Go fuck yourself, San Diego.
It's a new year for us, too.

Speaker 1 In the Meadowlands, they honored Lawrence Taylor pre-game and during the game as Kayvon Thibodeau made it snow with Angels.

Speaker 1 Nick Foles also contributed to the tribute of LT by completing exactly eight balls.

Speaker 1 Speaking of balls, Brian Dayball looks to be the coach of the year as he's made average guys like, I'm Richie James, bitch. Cold-blooded Giants 38 Colts 10

Speaker 1 and we head down to Atlanta for the game that had zero playoff implications as the Cardinals went to David Blau Blau Blauer Wheels to try to rub up the Cardinals offense that's falling off a cliff Desmond Critter, I refuse to eat the bugs, boom, was sneaking around the Cardinals' backyard as JJ Wattweiler's got that dog in him still.

Speaker 1 As Arthur Smith defeats Cliff Kingsbury in a battle of the two most attractive coaches in the NFL. The Falcons 20, the Cardinals are 90 points.

Speaker 1 Up to the not-so-frozen tundra where the incessant ads are once again being stuffed down our throat as a certain felonious insurance spokesman discount double-checked his way to a win.

Speaker 1 Jair Alexander called the jukes that he received at the expense of Justin Jefferson in week one a fluke as he hit the gritty early and often in the wide receiver's face. Hey, hey, boo, hey, Teach.

Speaker 1 Have you heard this? Have you seen this? They put up a statue in Minnesota and it's Kirk Dewitsky Cousins throwing a perfect interception to the Packers as he had three on the day.

Speaker 2 I hate that motherfucker boom.

Speaker 1 Don't look now, but the Green Bay Packers are in a win and in scenario in week 18 with the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 Who buried the Bears? Packers 41, Vikings 17.

Speaker 1 Over to the desert where Jarrett Stardom or Siddham got the nod as Derek Carr has been parked in the repo lot. Good news for the quarterback.

Speaker 1 Devontae, I'm walking here, was actually running free all Sunday after scoring two touchdowns. Darren, what you want to do? Want to be a waller? Shot caller, baller?

Speaker 1 Chipped in on the scoring, and the Niners were officially on the ropes until Brock Sturdy rided the ship. And San Fran fans are Brock hard now that they're Brock Floridi with the one seed.

Speaker 1 Niners, 37 the

Speaker 1 34

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Speaker 1 Okay, week 17

Speaker 1 in the books. We actually will talk about Raven Steelers at the end because we're taping a little early so we can go watch the game with Jersey Jerry on the stream.
A lot of things happened.

Speaker 1 A lot of things happened in this room.

Speaker 1 We watched a shitload of football. We're going to talk about college football playoffs as well after all the games.
But let's just get right into it.

Speaker 1 I tried to order it in terms of playoff implications. So talking about the games that actually meant something, and then we'll get to the games that mean absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Cardinals and Falcons. I actually took zero notes and didn't watch a second of that game.

Speaker 2 But let's start. I have one note on that game.

Speaker 1 Bucks, 30. Panthers, 24.
The Tampa Bay Bucks have finally, after like,

Speaker 1 it was a long, drawn-out process. It was a war of attrition.
Someone had to win the NFC South. They do it.
Come from behind. Win the NFC South.
Tom Brady was throwing deep balls to Mike Evans.

Speaker 1 The Bucs are your NFC South champs. They are still a bad football team, but they are in the playoffs and hosting a playoff game on wild card weekend.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, that's 14 straight playoff appearances for Tom Brady. Just crazy to think about.
Crazy. Insane.
And so if you're Tom Brady, banners fly forever. You won the division.
NFC South.

Speaker 2 It was all worth it. All worth it.
Everything that you've done in the last nine, 10 months, it worked out. You won the division.

Speaker 1 I will say this was the happiest I think I've seen him in a very long time because not only did they win the division going to the playoffs, their seed is set.

Speaker 1 There's nothing like he can, the Bucs can rest basically everyone.

Speaker 1 Week 18. They should get Ryan Jensen back as center.
Maybe they have him play, but he looked happy, I think, because they won the NFC South.

Speaker 1 And also, it was the first time that their offense looked somewhat competent in forever throwing deep balls to Mike Evans. He threw a 50-yard touchdown, a 61-yard touchdown.
Mike Evans had 207 yards.

Speaker 1 It was like it was, it was. Tom Brady won the game, and it's been a lot of Tom Brady does enough to win a game, but the defense has to chip in and they win like 14 to 13.

Speaker 1 No, he tore it he won this game.

Speaker 2 Tom Brady tore it up today and we've been using the F word a lot for the for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this year. Not frauds

Speaker 1 not frauds

Speaker 2 good the other F word flawed. Oh, we've been calling them flawed all year.
Yes. Right.

Speaker 2 But it looks like the the Bucs have actually looked at what's made them flawed and then realized there are certain things that we can do good. Yeah.
Let's lean into those things.

Speaker 2 In a way, like by knowing how bad they can be, they're going to the playoffs being like, okay, we've learned a a lot of lessons this year.

Speaker 2 And as if it turns out that still throwing deep balls to Mike Evans,

Speaker 2 it works because he's, I think it was, I think he was like a little dinged up earlier in the year when he had some hamstring issues. He was a little bit slow.

Speaker 2 But now it's like he does look like the Mike Evans of three years ago.

Speaker 1 By the way, Mike Evans, just as a side note, I think that everyone probably doesn't realize just how good Mike Evans is because there were a lot of years it was with Jameis and not great Bucs teams.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, Tom Brady comes and it's like, like, well, it's Tom Brady. Mike Evans now is second all-time.
Only one other person is, or only two other people have done this.

Speaker 1 Tim Brown is tied with Mike Evans nine consecutive 1,000-yard receiving years.

Speaker 1 The only person ahead of him is Jerry Rice with 11 years.

Speaker 1 Mike Evans is a Hall of Famer, which is crazy because doesn't it feel like he's had a very good career? But then when you stop and you look at it, you're like, holy shit,

Speaker 1 he's got 83 touchdowns or sorry, 81 touchdowns in his career. If he gets to 100, he'll be top 10 all-time in touchdowns.
Everyone in the top 15 is in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's definitely going to have fame. Every single year he's been in the NFL.
He's been in the NFL nine years. Every year he's gotten over 1,000 yards, and he's not even 30 yet.

Speaker 2 I feel like he's also a pretty overlooked piece of the whole Johnny Manzel situation. Yeah.
The Johnny football magic that happened in college station.

Speaker 2 That had a lot to do with him just throwing the ball up in the air and Mike Evans being able to catch it.

Speaker 1 But he is one of those players that I think that if you ask just any regular football fan, like, is he a Hall of Famer, they would be like, I never really thought of that, maybe.

Speaker 1 But if he has even two more years at this standard, which again, he's not even turned 30 yet, he's like a no-doubter Hall of Famer. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 2 his only weakness is getting into fights with CeeDee Deuce. Yes.
That's about it.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 2 So in the playoffs, I mean, if the Eagles, he's on the Birds, right? He is. Yeah, is he hurt?

Speaker 1 He is currently hurt.

Speaker 2 They need to get him healthy for the playoffs in case you play against the Bucks. Probably not going to be a good one.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 2 that's the only way that they can

Speaker 2 take Mike Evans off.

Speaker 1 I have something I want to admit because we are in the trust tree.

Speaker 1 I think I'm now starting to believe in the Bucs again. Like, I can actually see it.

Speaker 1 I've actually, as bad as I've been with the Bucs to begin the year, I've actually been very right about them in the last month and a half, where I got off of them for a little bit there, and then I went back on them this week.

Speaker 1 I now think that the path is there. The Cowboys, who Tom Brady owns, they're getting Ryan Jensen being Tristan Wurf's coming back, Ryan Jensen set to come back.

Speaker 1 That's been their biggest problem is their offensive line has given him no time. Their defense has always been pretty good.

Speaker 1 I'm starting to think that this might be a Bucs run again.

Speaker 2 So, this is what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 It's going to be Bucs Cowboys first round. Cowboys are going to lose somehow to Tom Brady, who's never lost to the Cowboys before.
Yeah, Tom Brady has never lost to the Cowboys before. The Bucks will

Speaker 2 beat Dallas in the first round. McCarthy fired Sean Payton, head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
I'm just letting you know, read the news before it's the news.

Speaker 1 Cowboys are getting the one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you've been talking about this because you just, your anger for Philadelphia just never leaves your brain. No, I just wanna be the same.

Speaker 1 You came in today and you're like, Cowboys getting one, Cowboys getting the one.

Speaker 2 Hank, here's the thing: the Giants are going to play the starters.

Speaker 1 The Giants aren't going to play anymore.

Speaker 2 So it's going to be Philadelphia. Philadelphia's going to beat them.
So whatever the Cowboys do, it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 Cowboys are getting the one, he's saying.

Speaker 2 Factor fiction. Factor fiction, the Eagles are going to beat the Giants next week, Hank.
Fiction.

Speaker 1 All right, so put the Giants in the Hungry Dog. Fine.
Okay. Done.
Then the Eagles will definitely win. Done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the... The Giants might be favored.
I don't think so. You never know.
Let's look. Let's look.
Whose line is it anyway? It's in Philadelphia, correct, Max? Yes. Yeah, Hank's the fucking worst.

Speaker 1 He's been on his troll shit today. He came in.

Speaker 1 He's like, I bet against PFT,

Speaker 1 talking about the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 And then he's like, I bet on the Bears. He's like, they're trying to lose.
They're trying to lose. They're just trying to be friends.
Whose line is it anyway? It's not out yet? Exactly. Okay.

Speaker 1 You never know. Oh,

Speaker 1 it's going to be so high.

Speaker 2 Vegas probably.

Speaker 1 After fiction, the Giants could be favorites. No.
No.

Speaker 2 Fiction. Fiction.
They can't be.

Speaker 2 They cannot be.

Speaker 1 They will not be.

Speaker 1 I bet

Speaker 1 I bet my life. Yeah, I'll put my life on it.
You want to put your life on it?

Speaker 2 No. When the line comes out,

Speaker 2 if the Eagles are underdogs, I will go up to the top of this building and jump off.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 There we go. They have to be, yeah.

Speaker 1 Line coming out, underdogs.

Speaker 2 I've never bet my life on anything.

Speaker 1 I'm jumping with you. I'll jump on your.
You know what?

Speaker 1 You get on my back. We'll do it as like a backpack.
Okay, got it. And maybe if I turn around quick enough, you'll brace the ball and I'll survive.
I don't think that's how it's going to work.

Speaker 2 I think if one of us is going to be the mattress,

Speaker 1 I've always said that. Philly's doing a fist pump right now.
What? If you jump off a bridge and throw a rock,

Speaker 1 like if you throw a rock underneath, like you let a rock go first, because I always say it hitting the water. Oh, depreciated.

Speaker 1 Just hitting the water is what hurts. But if you just drop a big rock before you,

Speaker 1 that would break the pressure.

Speaker 3 When you're building the Brooklyn Bridge, you should throw your hammer down if you fell off.

Speaker 1 Ah. If you're one of the iron workers.

Speaker 2 But since Big Cat weighs significantly more than me for now.

Speaker 1 For now, for now, for now. Third body season.
He's smirking.

Speaker 2 He's going to drop faster than me, right? Third body season. So I can just land on him.

Speaker 1 Or do I just spread out and I have more seasoning? What's the line? What's the line? The line is 14.

Speaker 2 Suck my dick, Hank.

Speaker 1 You fucking idiots.

Speaker 2 Hank, go jump off the building. God damn it.

Speaker 1 Cowboys one seed, right?

Speaker 1 Cowboys one seed. Anything can happen.
He's just on his troll shit. All right, so that is true.
The Bucs, I am now believing in the Bucs. I don't know how.
I don't know how, like, why,

Speaker 1 what has changed, but I think it was just the deep balls.

Speaker 1 Like, the Bucs offense, I've watched every single Bucs game with Stephen Shea and sitting in that gambling cave, and they all go the exact same way where they just get, like, they'll get first in goal on the five, and they'll gain two yards and then try to kick a field goal.

Speaker 1 This was the first time they were actually throwing it deep, and they actually look like the Bucs. The first time they looked like the Bucs week one when they pounded the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 The only issue I have is that Todd Bowles is going to, at some point, he's such an idiot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's going to turn back to Todd Bowles, Bayern left, which probably cost himself a lot of money this year

Speaker 2 by really like showing people how bad that he was. Like, because before this, going into the season, he was like the next hot name for a head coach.

Speaker 2 Now it's like, uh-oh, we found out too much about you.

Speaker 1 What was that? Todd Bowles had, even in a win, I think it was actually, it was sometime in the first half, he had his kicker try like a 55-yarder. He does not have even close to that type of leg.
No.

Speaker 1 And just flip the field for the Panthers, who I'm happy now that the Panthers can officially be my dark horse team next year that didn't make the playoffs, that's going to make the playoffs, because they are like,

Speaker 1 they're way overmatched by the Bucs from a pure talent standpoint. They were in this game.
Sam Darnold looked pretty good. They can now potentially,

Speaker 1 I'm just going to start like doing fake, I've been doing fake trades in my head for like the last three weeks.

Speaker 1 They could potentially trade up to the first or second pick, second pick with the Bears, get Bryce Young or CJ Stroud. They have pieces.
Like, they get a coach. Yeah.
They're looking at the bad.

Speaker 2 I mean, that's going to be the big question is what coach they get. Or do they try Sam Darnold again next year?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they could try Sam Donald.

Speaker 2 You probably have the luxury to have, if you do get CJ Stroud or Bryce Young, you can probably sit him for a year. Yeah.
Because Sam Darnold looked pretty good today, and he's faster.

Speaker 2 I don't know what it is about Sam Darnold in these last three weeks. He actually looks like a mobile quarterback.
And man, the New York Jets have got to be just kicking themselves.

Speaker 2 Man, if they still had Sam Darnold, they'd probably be in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 He's a difference maker. Yep.
Yeah, they actually had like the perfect season to set up the next season where they were in every game.

Speaker 1 They could have gone, won the NFC South as of this morning. Yeah.
And they still, because the NFC South is so bad, they're going to have a top 10 pick.

Speaker 1 It's like, couldn't have, you couldn't script it better. And they traded Christian McCaffrey for more picks.

Speaker 1 You couldn't script it better for them to be a team that goes from out of the playoffs to in the playoffs in one year.

Speaker 2 So, what do you do if you're Tepper, if you're the owner? Do you make Steve Wilkes actually interview to be the head coach? I think so. Or does he just put on the tape?

Speaker 1 I don't know. If I were him, that'd be a power move.

Speaker 2 Just walk in, set up a projector, press play, and leave.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what'd you do here? Yeah. Why'd you do this? Why didn't you run the ball against the Steelers?

Speaker 2 No, I'd just be like, look what I did. Oh, you're saying Steve Wilkes? Steve Wilkes comes in, press play.
Here's what I did while I was coach. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He did. I mean, he brought them back from being one of the biggest jokes in the league when Matt Rule was still there.

Speaker 2 I've got a theory. It's jumping ahead a little bit to the Commanders game.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I think Rivera wants to go back to North Carolina.

Speaker 1 Will they have him?

Speaker 2 They'd probably take him in like a front office position or something.

Speaker 1 I mean, they still do love him because I've never seen it before in my entire life where a coach gets a press conference after they get fired. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Remember, he went and he was like, we did a lot of things here. I think they did.
We won the NFC.

Speaker 1 He actually quoted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he quoted winning the NFC South like, whatever, three years in a row. One of those years they won it at seven and nine.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He just flags fly forever. His key still works.
They'll probably have him in whenever. He's probably still got his office up there.

Speaker 1 Last thing I have is Tom Brady now joins the club of 40-year-olds with 400 yards passing in a game. The club is six members.

Speaker 1 It's Warren Moon, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, and Tom Brady. So he's now got it four times.

Speaker 2 He's the only one to do it four times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's the only one to do it. Thank you to Stad Hole for that sad.

Speaker 2 Tom Brady could probably also do it when he's 50. If I were Tom Brady, you know what I'd do? I'd retire whenever I want to retire, which, I mean, that's that could be never.
It could be next year.

Speaker 2 And then I'd come back for one last season after I turned 50. Just get your body like completely, totally healed.
You do nothing

Speaker 2 but yoga in TP12. You eat all the avocados that you want, no nightshades.
You're in perfect condition. You come back when you're 50 years old just to prove that you can still play in the NFL.

Speaker 1 I don't think there's any chance he's retiring. I think this type of game where he won the NFC South, going back to the playoffs, threw the bombs,

Speaker 1 that's like when you golf and

Speaker 1 on the 18th hole, you just crush a drive. Man, that was fun.

Speaker 2 You were all ready to quit golf. You were covering yourself thousands of dollars a year.
I don't think he's retiring either because he's coming back and going to Vegas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a lot of fanfic out there. Hank, so are you all in on the Bucs making a,

Speaker 1 let's say,

Speaker 1 NFC championship game would be them

Speaker 1 punching above what they've been this year and a pretty crazy run. Because I don't think anyone expects them to go all the way to the NFC championship game.
Because

Speaker 1 they just haven't been good all year. Yeah, I think they could beat the Eagles.
I think they could beat rookie Brock Purdy. They could easily, I could see them winning that game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, no, it's right. Think about it, Hank.
Tom Brady against Brock Purdy. Don't overthink it.

Speaker 1 Championship TVD.

Speaker 1 Game one. The 49ers.
Oh, my God. They win by 100.
Tom Brady looks old, looks old. Wait, so

Speaker 1 playoffs come. Who wins? Who can't they beat? Dallas at home would be tough, but I think they could do it.

Speaker 2 That's one team that they should be able to beat.

Speaker 1 Wait, when Dallas gets the one seed. Yep.
Got it. They could beat the Vikings.
So, yeah, I'm all in. So just if Dallas gets the one seed, which you've declared has happened,

Speaker 2 that would be their toughest matchup.

Speaker 1 Dallas the one seed. Fanfic.

Speaker 1 On our side of the table, not yours. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I would actually be afraid of the Lions if I was the Bucs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, no.
Yeah, I would be. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. The Lions are like, they will outscore the Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 Also, the Packers, maybe.

Speaker 1 Is Jalen Hurts coming back? Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 You're on your troll shit.

Speaker 1 I'm genuinely curious. Let's go to the next one.
Why didn't he play today?

Speaker 2 I don't think LaFleur wants to face Tom Brady again in the playoffs. No, that's true.
I think he's so deep inside the vortex that the math part of his brain

Speaker 2 will just psych himself out.

Speaker 1 LaFleur goes up to Todd Bowles before, and he's like, let's just not do any field goals. Let's just keep this on the sevenths.
Yeah, come on. Whole game.
Tell you what.

Speaker 2 Kickers aren't really part of the game, right? Let's settle this like men.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be tempted to just start going for field goals. All right, next up, Patriots 23, Dolphins 21.

Speaker 2 Can I just real quick go back? If he does play, if the Battle of the Bays happens again and LaFleur has to coach against Tampa Bay,

Speaker 2 there's definitely a chance that at some point in that game, Matt LaFleur will think about us.

Speaker 1 Oh, I would say the whole week. He'll be like,

Speaker 2 he'll have a decision, and our stupid faces will pop into his head and be like, wait, am I just choosing this to spite those assholes?

Speaker 1 If, if,

Speaker 1 now, this is a very big if because the Packers would have to get into the playoffs, and the seating really doesn't work out. It would, I think they'd only meet in the NFC championship game, right?

Speaker 1 But if that did happen,

Speaker 1 uh, I will, PFT and I both will pay

Speaker 1 an AWL. We'll buy four seats in direct line of Matt LaFleur across the field, and you can bring, you'll have to bring big cardboard cutouts of us and just hold it up on any field goal decision.
Yep.

Speaker 1 So he can just see our faces. Yep.

Speaker 2 And Hank's going to match.

Speaker 1 And Hank will match. Game time.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next up, Patriots 23, Dolphins 21.

Speaker 1 Hank doesn't want the Patriots to win. He doesn't want them to go to the playoffs, but they are now in a win-and-get-in situation.
The Dolphins season has completely fallen apart.

Speaker 1 Five straight losses. Teddy Bridgewater broke his finger on an interception, I think.
Skylar Thompson, it's just all fallen apart.

Speaker 1 And now the Patriots somehow, this is what I was alluding to when I said let's save for the show. I turned to PFT earlier today and I was like, it's so fucked up that this season looks so different.

Speaker 1 And now we're sitting here and

Speaker 1 the Dolphins could get eliminated. The Jets have been eliminated.
The Bears were eliminated in fucking September. And the Commanders got eliminated today.
And now Hank's just sitting here.

Speaker 1 Doesn't even want to be in in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 No, this sucks.

Speaker 1 And he's going to be in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 This actually hurts. It hurts me.
I'm like, I'm watching Hank not even enjoy the fact that his team's going to make the playoffs. And over here, it's like, that's, you should, you should love this.

Speaker 1 He's like, for what reason?

Speaker 2 It's like, we're his parents. Why? And we took Hank out to, like, little Hank comes out with us with his undeveloped palate, and we go to a nice sushi dinner.
And Hank's like, ew, gross.

Speaker 2 I don't want this stuff. Do you have chicken fingers?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Mac and cheese bites, please.

Speaker 2 Hank, this is gourmet shit that you're getting right now, okay? And you're just not even appreciating it.

Speaker 1 He's like, what for? I don't want to go to the playoffs. Oh, you're going to make me go?

Speaker 2 He's on his phone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, yeah. It's like, we're asking our son to go to grandparents' house.
I don't want to go. Can you play my video game?

Speaker 2 Can you go laser tag with my friends instead?

Speaker 1 You're such a shithead. Yeah, I mean, that's not, none of that is false.

Speaker 1 I will say this, though. I will say this.
I did give up on the season after the Raiders game. I've been betting against them today.

Speaker 1 I just bet the under and was rooting against points in any action whatsoever. I didn't care how the game went.
But I will say this: there is a winning-get-in situation.

Speaker 1 If the Patriots beat the Bills, I'm all the way back in. If they lose to the Bills, but then end up in the playoffs because the Dolphins also just suck,

Speaker 1 it's going to be hard for me to really get it together.

Speaker 2 That's what I hope I'm hoping for, though. But if the Battle of you guys back into the playoffs and you hate it, and you hate every second of watching it, which that will just be like

Speaker 1 we'll be playing the Chiefs, Bills, or I mean, we could be the Bengals, we could beat the Bengals,

Speaker 1 maybe Bengals?

Speaker 1 They're banged up. Do you remember what happened? Like,

Speaker 1 how long ago was that? We beat them. Yeah.
Oh, no, we lost them.

Speaker 1 We beat them. They fumbled in the red zone for a chance to win that.
Yeah, maybe we lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 You lost. You lost to the Bengals.

Speaker 1 You lost that game.

Speaker 1 But we almost should have won. Almost should have won.
That's true. But again,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to sit here and pretend like they're going to make her in the playoffs because Matt Patricia is the offensive coordinator and they're trash.

Speaker 1 Again, they won the game because they got a defensive and special themes touchdown. That's the recipe.
And that's a hard recipe to repeat week after week.

Speaker 1 If they don't get a defensive touchdown, they're not winning games. And the one part of week 18 that's going to be very difficult is the Bills will be playing for seeding.

Speaker 1 They will be playing for...

Speaker 1 Even if they lose tomorrow night, they still have an outside shot at the one seed because they beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 And if the Bengals lost to the Ravens, the Bills will be playing everyone because they want to get that one seed.

Speaker 1 And even the two seed, you get two home playoff games guaranteed if you get to that second round.

Speaker 1 I will give Mac Jones credit.

Speaker 1 He played pretty well. Yeah, that last drive was like a big boy drive by him.

Speaker 1 I think it was 89 yards, 11 plays.

Speaker 1 He looked like, hey, I'm actually moving forward and not with the pissy face and trying to take out people's knees. So maybe you build off that.
A couple good deep balls.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He deserves credit when he plays well, and he played well in that last drive to to win the game.

Speaker 2 I do feel bad for Dolphins fans because you've just.

Speaker 1 And they're playing against Teddy Bridgewater and then whoever, Skylar Thompson?

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. Like, the Dolphins

Speaker 2 have been snake bit. It's not their fault.

Speaker 2 Like, Tua started to develop, I think, concussion syndromes on Monday when they were watching film, and he couldn't remember some of the plays, so that's why I was.

Speaker 1 Were they watching McGruber again?

Speaker 2 They were watching McGruber, and he was like, wait,

Speaker 2 did he shoot already in the graveyard?

Speaker 1 No, he probably was watching McGruber. I was like, I feel like I've seen this movie before, but maybe not.
I was really concussed the last time.

Speaker 2 What it was is they were watching it and then mike mcdaniel looked over and was like you're not laughing as hard as you did last time what's up with that you laughed at every scene he's like yeah i don't know coach it's not as funny i guess when his wife dies yeah but uh i do feel bad for dolphins fans they've had very bad luck at quarterback spready bridgewater did cover on the road he did so he builds off that which is nice that's a fact sorry hank he covered your face and then uh jake you still have the opportunity to come in and what what did you say eliminate well the jets are already eliminated yeah so we can't eliminate them but you can double eliminate them yeah you can double eliminate them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess. Because they can eliminate you.
Yeah, that's true. So you need to stave off the elimination.

Speaker 2 You got to double eliminate.

Speaker 1 This couch is a disgrace to football.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 it's good that no one on this couch said at any point during this season, I feel bad for you guys, talking about our teams.

Speaker 1 Thank God that didn't happen because that would be very embarrassing. Yes,

Speaker 1 this game means more after what happened in early October at Met Life.

Speaker 2 The fingers. The fingers.

Speaker 2 The revenge finger game.

Speaker 1 He's doing it again wait don't say that that way he's doing it he's doing it the fingers uh yeah the i the patriots defense is still very good they score every single game it feels like the game flipped on that pick six they just whenever they need a big big play it's like all right our defense just got to drop the touchdown play right that's that's that's the recipe for success right so you can win games like that win them ugly yeah

Speaker 1 I hate you so much.

Speaker 2 You don't even like this.

Speaker 1 So next weekend, week 18,

Speaker 1 are you rooting for them to win that game? Yes. Okay.
Am I expecting them to win that game? No. No.

Speaker 1 But if they do win,

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 a new me. You'll see.

Speaker 1 But if they lose. But I will not wear it if it's a

Speaker 1 back end loss, lose by 20, and then the fucking Dolphins are a joke, so they lose too, and we get in.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so if you lose next week,

Speaker 2 get into the playoffs, and then in the first round, you're not even going to be rooting for the Patriots, it sounds like.

Speaker 1 Unless

Speaker 1 if we beat the Bills, it's back on. We got momentum.
Boating up the clip. Yeah.
Yeah. You're ready to go.
Get hot at the right time. Right.
That would be getting hot at the right time. So

Speaker 1 it's one or the other. Okay.
Okay. That's.
This is fantastic.

Speaker 2 I was going to say that's fair, but it's not fair.

Speaker 1 No, it's none of this is fair. It's bullshit.

Speaker 1 We're sitting here, and you're not.

Speaker 1 Everyone else just got eliminated today. It was literally Elimination Sunday.
So let's talk about the next game.

Speaker 1 Browns 24, Commanders 10.

Speaker 1 Because the Packers won and this Commanders lost, the Commanders have officially been eliminated from postseason participation. Carson Wentz,

Speaker 1 I feel bad, PFD, because that sucked. And I'll let you just take the floor because that sucked.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I've got a couple ideas of why Carson Wentz played. I touched on him last week, but in my opinion, Anybody that watches football knows that Carson Wentz sucks at playing football.

Speaker 2 Anyone that watches football, sees Taylor Heineke play football, thinks, hey, this guy sucks sometimes and he's good sometimes. He's fun.
So which quarterback would you rather have?

Speaker 2 The quarterback that just is a big pile of stinking shit or the quarterback that sometimes has flowers growing out of that shit? I would take Taylor Heineke on that one. Taylor Heineke is fun.

Speaker 2 His team loves him. You could tell.
Here's when I knew that we were fucked.

Speaker 2 Well, probably after Carson Wentz through the first interception of the game in like the first 16 seconds.

Speaker 2 But after that, I knew we were fucked because Chase Young, who's been the best cheerleader that we've had on the sidelines this year, gets fucking hyped for Taylor Heineke.

Speaker 2 He goes up behind Taylor Heineke, he points at his jersey, he like slaps him in the face, like treats him like a dog that he loves, you know, like his favorite dog.

Speaker 2 He sees Carson Wentz, he walks out on the field and is telling Carson Wentz, like, hey, please, we need you. Believe in yourself, Carson.
I want you to know that I need you to trust yourself.

Speaker 2 Pleading with him.

Speaker 1 He's begging him to believe in himself.

Speaker 2 And at that point, I was like, okay, this game's over. And Ron Rivera apparently didn't know that if the Packers beat the Vikings later on the day, that that would eliminate us from the playoffs.

Speaker 2 And that's why he chose to start Carson Wentz.

Speaker 2 If that's true, it's one of two things. Either Ron Rivera is trying to get fired by saying he didn't know that,

Speaker 1 or

Speaker 2 he should be fired if he didn't know that. Those are really the only two options.

Speaker 2 And I think that he started Carson because my guess is Dan Snyder doesn't want to pay Taylor Heineke winning bonuses, and he's paying his favorite toy that they hand-selected this offseason $20-some million dollars per game, and doesn't want to see him on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 I honestly, so you're probably right, but I also think Riverboat Ron, the Riverboat gambler, because I had this happen to me this morning, and it's something that everyone has to go through, and people have gotten out of their system, not gotten out of their system.

Speaker 1 I still woke up this morning. I was like, Carson Wentz, there's still that dude in him.

Speaker 1 And I took the over in this game game because I was like he's gonna ball out I said he was going to ball out I think Ron Rivera just has that where he looked at it he's like I know what Taylor Heineke is we haven't won uh in three games straight we went tie loss loss Carson Wentz did get those two MVP votes He probably had that same thought in his head where he's like, what if?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what if he just fucking goes nuclear and we get old Carson Wentz and now we're a serious like threat in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 I've seen enough Carson Wentz. I've seen the Carson Wentz football for a lifetime.

Speaker 1 I'm out.

Speaker 1 That was the last one. This was the last one for me.
Fully out. I actually thought he was.

Speaker 1 I didn't bet the commanders. That would have been stupid, but I bet the overthink he'd ball out, I'm out.

Speaker 2 Fully out, 100% out on Carson Wentz. I said during the game that they should just throw him into the ocean next to Osan Bin Lane's family.
That was a little, I think I went a little too far. No.

Speaker 1 Barely. Not far enough.
Barely.

Speaker 2 Not far enough. Jake shook his head.
No, you don't think they should do that, Jake?

Speaker 1 No, Jake doesn't think you went too far. Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 1 They should not do that.

Speaker 2 Throw him into the Potomac River. Yeah.
And then rescue him after like 30 seconds and he gets really cold.

Speaker 1 What happens to Carson Wentz now? Because he's, by all accounts,

Speaker 1 let's just put it mildly, he's not, doesn't seem like the best teammate. Doesn't feel like a guy that people like to be around.

Speaker 1 And this is all conjecture. Maybe he's the coolest guy in the world.
Yeah. But

Speaker 2 he's rad.

Speaker 1 The one thing that happens with quarterbacks is like if you are a guy who everyone likes and can help with other, you know, the younger guys, you can have a long, long career as a backup.

Speaker 1 Is Carson Wentz

Speaker 1 not going to be in the league? I don't think he's in a couple years.

Speaker 2 I don't think he even likes playing football. If you watch him during the games, he's just like,

Speaker 2 he's got, we are body language experts. He looks like he would rather be anywhere else in the world.
He's like,

Speaker 2 he probably wishes he was at a Mike Trout game watching Mike Trout play baseball. While Mike Trout wishes he was at a game watching Carson Wentz.
Yeah, you're right, Billy.

Speaker 2 He probably would rather be hunting. He's probably just thinking, good, go hunt.
He's good. Have fun.

Speaker 1 Actually, i don't think that the world is ready from a sheer population standpoint for uh carson wentz to be duck hunting full-time i don't think we have enough ducks he's gonna if he is not in the league in a year or two it will be such a fascinating well i guess it's not a what if because we know what happened but it's more of a holy could you imagine telling yourself this guy i mean max if he's not in the league next year could you imagine telling 2017 max that carson went to be out of the league not by injury?

Speaker 1 I was the biggest Carson Wentz guy in the history of the planet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I was even saying today

Speaker 1 to you, I was like, 2017 could come back.

Speaker 2 Exactly. That's why I kept.
Yeah. When I have to lie to myself, I just say he got two MVP votes in 2017.
He could turn back and that guy. Nope.
Now go off, go spend all your time on

Speaker 2 a prairie in North Dakota, pheasant hunting. Go be the Stalin of ducks and commit mass genocide against every bird.

Speaker 1 He's made $128,000.

Speaker 1 Sorry, million dollars.

Speaker 1 $128 million.

Speaker 1 He's got still $60 million left to make. I think that if he gets cut, that probably all goes away.
$128 million?

Speaker 2 Just go away, Carson. It just sucks

Speaker 2 because all the fans wanted Heineke today. You heard him chanting at the game for Heineke.
I wanted Heineke.

Speaker 2 I think most people that have watched this team play know that with Taylor, it's not just about... the actual stats that he contributes because he does make some stupid plays sometimes.

Speaker 2 He doesn't really blow your socks off with having like 500-yard passing games or 400-yard passing games. But the rest of the team just plays a little bit differently when he's in there.

Speaker 2 It's like they actually believe that they can do something with Carson in the game.

Speaker 2 It's just like they're, I think they're afraid of getting Carson hurt because he's such a spazz in the pocket sometimes.

Speaker 1 Even the last drive that they were trying to score on and it was like false start. Carson Wentz just like running around, circling around into a sack.
It was just all so sad.

Speaker 2 You see, he put his like entire body into one of those throws downfield where he jumped off both of his feet forward. Yep.
And he couldn't get.

Speaker 2 He still has a good arm, which is, that's the only reason I think that maybe there'll be another team bring him in as a backup because he's still, if you just get him in shorts.

Speaker 1 He's like, no, you're doing it yourself again. Don't you? He has the tools to be a great quarterback.
Let's be done with him.

Speaker 2 He was Piquette. He was picked second overall in the draft.
He's got a gigantic arm. He's still fast when he runs it.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do it.

Speaker 2 A team will see that and they'll be like, I don't know. 2017.

Speaker 1 I actually think that there's a chance he might not be on a team next year.

Speaker 2 Imagine him playing. Okay, let me ask you this.
Here's the real question. Imagine Carson Wentz playing for the 49ers in dog shit hands off.

Speaker 2 Would he look like dog shit then? Yes.

Speaker 1 Because he would still be turning around and, oh, they just showed on Sunday night football, Big Ben, when he had the broken nose with the blood coming out. Such an awesome picture.

Speaker 2 I think he would get confused in that offense. Yeah, no, he would get dizzy.

Speaker 1 I actually,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 I think there's a a decent chance he's not because for him to be on a team next year You wouldn't bring him in as a backup You'd bring him in as a starter and who's going to actually say we're starting the season the best chance he has is the commanders I was I was actually gonna say the best chance that he has

Speaker 2 is the Colts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, he's not and he burned that bridge already just go back and forth.

Speaker 2 Yes, I mean listen I know where I am in my life rooting for this franchise and he is yes it makes all the sense in the world for him to be on the commanders or the Colts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just might just stay with, yeah.

Speaker 2 I think I just pray to God that doesn't happen. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's a bummer. It's a bummer.
And so you're eliminated. It sucks.
I wanted to see Taylor Heineke in the seventh seed. It would have been fun.
It was

Speaker 2 just a bummer. I can't believe they ruined Major Hog Day.
Yeah. We unveiled our new mascot, Major Tutty, the Hog.
I like the Hog. I do too.
I think the Hog works as a mascot.

Speaker 2 It's better than the alternative. They were going to give us a police dog as our mascot.

Speaker 1 You should have been the Red Hogs.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we should have been the Red Hogs, the Hogs, a nod to the former offensive lineman.

Speaker 2 It's a cool mascot, except if you're losing and you're losing as pathetic.

Speaker 2 At halftime of the Carson Wentz game, where he already has two interceptions and we're up 7-3 at half, even though we've sacked Deshaun Watson four times and he's 3 of 8 for 23 yards, at halftime of that depressing game...

Speaker 2 is not the best time to like roll a cartoon pig out onto the field and be like, clap for this.

Speaker 1 Well, it's also the hogs, like dressing up

Speaker 1 in dresses with pig noses works when you are bullying the other team with your offensive line. When you have Carson Wentz, you're just kind of looking at it like, this is kind of fucked up.

Speaker 2 It's kind of sad. Yeah.
When your team's bad, you start to realize, wait a second, I'm wearing a dress because I want the offensive line to fuck me. Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 2 Wait, that doesn't make a lot of sense. And a pig nose.
But if you're like mauling people, you're like, fuck yeah, I'm wearing this dress because they can fuck me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're men. Yeah.
Yeah, this is what we do.

Speaker 1 I'm such a masculine dude that I would fuck our offensive lines yes exactly yeah uh for the browns i deshawn watson actually i think looked decent in the second half he was only he was nine for 18 but he had a few nice plays with his feet he ran around a little bit yeah amari cooper had amari cooper's still good so i guess if you're a browns fan you're like hey maybe that's what it will look like next year a little bit yeah i mean nick chubb was awesome again yeah and their defense i mean it's more carson went but their defense was very good their defense was decent they they weren't like a complete atrocity uh in terms of stopping the run although robinson had had, he broke a couple nice ones and just kind of softened them up.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 1 That's the thing with Carson Wentz.

Speaker 2 Yeah, with Robinson, he's going to give you like, I don't know, I'd say 75% of his carries are just meant to hit you in the face and make you not want to tackle him again.

Speaker 2 And then he'll break it out again.

Speaker 1 He's basically when you have to loosen a jar for something. When you can't open a jar, you're like, well, I loosened it.
He loosens the jar.

Speaker 2 If we get like a small, like a 5-6 Deuce Vaughan type guy, and then you get a little thunder and lightning,

Speaker 2 a little eat and run going.

Speaker 1 Derren Spurles could still get 100 easy. Yeah.
Easy in any offense.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Commander's eliminated. Sorry, PFT.
I do feel bad. I mean,

Speaker 2 I would shut the fuck up, Hank. I was hoping that I was going to get at least one more week.
I do. Shut.
Yo, seriously. I really do.
Max, turn his mic off, please.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 He can't do that.

Speaker 1 He can't.

Speaker 2 He should.

Speaker 2 All right, new studio in Chicago. We're going to have a mute button for Hank that I get to control.
This is like the gone fishing. It's like Tony Reality.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 But I only have one of them.

Speaker 1 This is for that motherfucker in the corner. This is the gone fishing for TNT

Speaker 1 when teams get eliminated. I've been standing on the boat waiting for someone to join me.

Speaker 1 And PFT and Billy join me today, and Hank is just sitting there, like, laughing at us. Well, the real, the real, like, trying, I'm like, yo, that looks fun.
Yeah, you want to be on the boat.

Speaker 1 You're like, let's go fishing. Like, I literally want to go fishing.

Speaker 2 I want a vacation.

Speaker 1 I want a vacation. I want to golf.

Speaker 1 You know, 100 holes

Speaker 1 over the Arizona Bowl weekend. I want to do this.

Speaker 2 It just hurt so much more that Kirk Cousins once again eliminated me from the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 When I believed in him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which we should have.

Speaker 1 No one should have.

Speaker 2 That was such a big mistake on my part. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I will not make it again.

Speaker 1 Never, ever, ever.

Speaker 2 I will not. Jake, remind me, do not trust Kirk Cousins.
Don't believe his lies.

Speaker 1 We'll talk about that game later, but

Speaker 2 wild card weekend.

Speaker 1 And Carson Wentz, 2017, Carson Wentz is never coming back. Maybe just send me that email every day.

Speaker 1 Every Sunday morning next year, send me an email. If he's on a roster, if he's starting, I need a text message every Sunday morning.

Speaker 1 If he's starting, saying, just a reminder, 2017, Carson Wentz is never, he's not that guy, pal.

Speaker 2 Max, can you just explain to me what happened in 2017?

Speaker 1 What was

Speaker 2 what was it about Wentz that made him so great? And watching him then compared to the player that he is now, is it like, is it all in his head?

Speaker 1 Is it Doug Peterson?

Speaker 1 No, it's a thousand. He is a mental

Speaker 2 massive pussy.

Speaker 1 You were like, how can I not be offensive? Oh, let me go this way.

Speaker 1 The thing is, that is like the Philadelphia way of toning it down. Yeah, you just cleaned it up.

Speaker 1 That was a classy way to.

Speaker 1 That's true. I think

Speaker 2 high school Max probably would have dropped a hard F right there.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was very funny.
That was very funny. But yeah, I mean, he's just a completely different guy.
He was the best.

Speaker 1 He would get out of everything and then throw an absolute dime 60 yards and everyone loved him. And then he got hurt.
He started. That Ramblers game, right?

Speaker 1 He started motherfucking everyone because he wasn't playing and he was upset. And then everyone started to hate him.
And then that won a Super Bowl. And then Nick Foles won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And he was upset about it. And now you see

Speaker 1 what happened.

Speaker 2 I actually think that Nick Foles happened to Carson Wentz. Yeah.
Because the guy that you were better than came in, took your job, played better than you, and he's probably got a much bigger win.

Speaker 3 He got cucked.

Speaker 2 And so when you just get cucked

Speaker 2 like that, you're never coming back.

Speaker 1 I bet you there was a moment when Nick Foles took over, won this Super Bowl the next year after everything that happened.

Speaker 1 I bet you Carson Wentz's wife, like one night, was just like, why is everyone calling him BDN?

Speaker 1 And he had to explain it. And then there was like a little look in her eye.
And then he's like, I fucking hate everyone. I hate the world.
Like, well, he's got a huge hog. He got chokified.

Speaker 1 And she's like, how big?

Speaker 2 He turned into Joaquin Phoenix.

Speaker 1 He did. Just because Nick Foles has a huge dick and won a Super Bowl.
That was it. It was villain origins.

Speaker 2 Then he danced down the stairs at the Philadelphia Art Museum.

Speaker 2 And now we have to deal with his

Speaker 2 now he's ruining my life.

Speaker 1 He needs to go to therapy. He needs to have it all just talking about Nick Foles and what he did.

Speaker 2 He became an incel involuntarily because anyone that he almost fucked was like, wait, I'd rather be fucking Nick Foles.

Speaker 1 Nick Foles, yeah, exactly. Whoa, something just fell.
What were you going to say, Bill?

Speaker 2 Do you want to maybe put your feet off the desk and stop spilling stuff over there in the studio? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thanks.

Speaker 3 All right, what are you going to say, friends? Because duck killing just didn't scratch the itch anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's true. I want something more dangerous.

Speaker 1 All right. Next up, Giants 38, Colts, 10.

Speaker 2 I could see Carson Wentz committing murder.

Speaker 1 Yes. A franchise.

Speaker 1 Yeah, multiple.

Speaker 1 Giants 38, Colts, 10.

Speaker 1 Brian Dable is coach of the year. He's getting my official vote.
Okay. I have a lot of backup votes.
I think he's coach of the year.

Speaker 1 The New York Giants, excuse me, are in the playoffs for the first time since 2016. The boat curse has officially been erased.
They have been so bad since that last time they went in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 This team is pretty much the same team as it was last year, except the coach is different, and he's gotten so much out of these guys.

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones, the story got reported before the game that the Giants are looking to re-sign Daniel Jones and Saquon. I think at this point it makes sense.
Reward them. Right.
Like,

Speaker 1 we talked about it. I can't remember last week or the week before.
I still don't think you should pay Daniel Jones a ton of money. Right.

Speaker 1 But Daniel Jones might say to himself as well, like, I know this is the best spot for me. Brian Dable has reinvigorated my entire career.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't I take a little bit less than I could if I went to some team that is not going to set me up?

Speaker 1 So I'm just impressed by the Giants. Like, what a year.
Incredible.

Speaker 1 And then, of course, the lasting image of the game was Kayvon Thibodeau doing Snow Angels, literally next to Nick Full's dead body as he was writhing in pain.

Speaker 1 Just an all-time clip. He has to have not known.
No, he didn't.

Speaker 1 He definitely didn't know. Even though he was almost touching him.

Speaker 2 I would like to just make a motion to ban Snow Angels when there's nothing to do snow angels in.

Speaker 2 You should not be able to do it if it's just Astro Turf.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Or field turf. There should actually be something like Confetti.
That plays. That always plays.
If it's snow, if it's grapple, if it's ice, do Snow Angels.

Speaker 1 It was actually almost nice of him to do that, though, because Nick Foles, it was so hard to watch Nick Foles play football these last two weeks.

Speaker 2 It was. He was like doing it in his blood on the field.
It was tough to watch. I think that I've gained a newfound respect for Daniel Jones.
Yes.

Speaker 2 And I realized why I did, because it's a matter of perspective when you look at Daniel Jones. If you look at Daniel Jones and you keep thinking to yourself, we drafted this guy to replace Eli Manning.

Speaker 2 We're waiting for him to be Eli Manning. You're never going to be happy with him.

Speaker 2 He's not going to be that type of player. If you think of him as like a super-powered Taysom Hill,

Speaker 2 he's an awesome player.

Speaker 2 The way that he's running with the ball now, the offense that they've got him in with Kafka, is Kafka, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 They've metamorphosized

Speaker 2 Daniel Jones into being like a supercharged Taysom Hill where he's dynamic with his feet and he's fun to watch. And when he does,

Speaker 2 you see it with running quarterbacks all the time, but like when he's running the ball, he opens things up and makes the passing game easier for himself based off that.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. And he had two touchdowns running, two touchdowns throwing.
He's fun to watch. Yeah.
The Giants,

Speaker 1 I actually, I wouldn't count them out against pretty much anyone in the first round. They are,

Speaker 1 it feels like every game,

Speaker 1 as long as they don't go down, say, 14, they're not built for that. But if they keep a game within one possession,

Speaker 1 it feels like every Giants game goes that way where it's like, keep them around, keep them around, and then win the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Giants might be the team. I see today was different.
Like, you don't want to play the Giants.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank, I do have something to help your

Speaker 1 demented Cowboys one seed troll of Max. Not a troll.
Okay. Here it is.
So, the Giants.

Speaker 2 I saw this, by the way, before the Satan's game started.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 So, even more demented.

Speaker 1 The Giants are locked into the sixth seed, so they can't do anything about it, right?

Speaker 1 That's correct.

Speaker 2 I got the playoff machine on the screen.

Speaker 1 I think they're completely lost.

Speaker 2 They're locked in the sixth seed because it's going to be Green Bay,

Speaker 2 Detroit, or Seattle that rounds out the seventh.

Speaker 1 They are locked in. They were most likely going to arrest their starters.
The only reason I say most likely, 2007, Hank, if you remember, the Giants played the Patriots week 17.

Speaker 1 They were locked into the playoffs already. They played them tough.
They started everyone. They almost beat them.
Then they met him in the Super Bowl. Is there a chance that Brian Dable

Speaker 1 is like,

Speaker 1 if we go on a run here, we could play the Eagles again. Should we see if we can match up against them? Makes a lot of sense.
I'm just throwing that out there.

Speaker 2 I think it's more like.

Speaker 1 And they have to play the week after anyway. Like, you want to play? No, that would be more of a reason to take the rest.
Yeah. No.

Speaker 1 No, that's completely opposite.

Speaker 2 Because if I'm the Giants.

Speaker 1 Yes. No, complete.
If you're the Giants, this is their bye week. Two rest versus Rust.
Two strong things.

Speaker 1 You've got, one,

Speaker 2 you don't want to get anyone injured because you have a game that means something next week. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then, two, yeah, you don't want to show the Eagles all the tricks you've got up your sleeve either.

Speaker 1 Or do you want to and try to fight them really close and be like, we can beat these teams

Speaker 1 because they didn't get killed by the Eagles earlier this season.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 2 There is precedent here with the Giants playing in a meaningless game against Hank's Patriots back in the day. That's what I'm saying.
During the undefeated season.

Speaker 1 What? That's what I just said. Oh, okay.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 That was the 2007 season.

Speaker 2 I was looking at the 7th, 6th seed.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah. You brought that up.
Factor fiction, there is love lost between these teams. No love lost.

Speaker 2 I think there's a little love lost.

Speaker 1 Fiction.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's fiction.

Speaker 1 Between the Eagles and the Giants?

Speaker 1 Another reason to try and win.

Speaker 2 I think the Giants and the Eagles both

Speaker 2 hate the Cowboys more

Speaker 1 lost. Right.
Yeah, there's no love lost. Correct.
Right. There's one other thing that

Speaker 2 scares me a little bit was

Speaker 1 Hurts' rookie year when he got put in week 17 playing against the Washington Redskins. The Giants needed the Eagles to beat the Redskins.
Oh, yeah. And they benched Hurts in the second half.

Speaker 1 Although that obviously wasn't Brian Dables' team. Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 I still have Giants fans like super upset.

Speaker 2 That was the Nate Sudfeld game.

Speaker 2 What a second half that was.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Okay.

Speaker 1 Now demented Hank is actually starting to make some sense.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 Hank's very wrong about this.

Speaker 2 The Giants, it looks like they're probably going to be playing the Vikings in the first round of the playoffs because if the Vikings win next week, they're playing against the Bears.

Speaker 1 They're probably going to win that game.

Speaker 1 They have to win.

Speaker 2 And then the 49ers are playing at home against the Cardinals. You have to assume that the Niners win that game, too.

Speaker 2 That would line us up with Giants, Vikings first round.

Speaker 1 Just played a three-point game.

Speaker 2 Just played a three-point game.

Speaker 1 And that was what I was saying, though, when you were looking up

Speaker 1 that the Giants, if you're Brian Dable,

Speaker 1 if you win, I guess if they win this game, or if they play close in this game and the Eagles end up winning, they wouldn't play the Eagles in the second round, most likely, right?

Speaker 1 So why not prove it to your guys that they're not that much better than you because they were that much better than you when you played the Metal Lands earlier in the season?

Speaker 1 As for the Colts, I was just saying, remember when the Colts beat the Chiefs week three?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was sick.

Speaker 2 No, the Sun beat the Chiefs. Remember that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Sun beat the Chiefs. This is the season from hell for the Colts.
It could not have. Everything is unraveled.
I guess it's nice that they don't have a decision to make with the coach.

Speaker 1 It's just, we're just going to find a real coach, maybe?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I wouldn't put anything past Mr.

Speaker 1 Ursay.

Speaker 2 I want to know what happened at halftime of that game.

Speaker 1 If I were a Colts fan, I would be very upset if, obviously, I think Jim Ursai is not going to be coach.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be a situation where he's probably going to say to Jim Ursay, it's not for me.

Speaker 1 If Chris Ballard keeps his job, though, because this Colts roster is just falling apart, and they haven't been able to get the QB right. I don't know how he still has a job so it makes no sense.

Speaker 1 The Colts feel like they're have to reset everything when they were

Speaker 1 go back to last year. Remember going into the stretch run? The Colts were the hottest team and everyone said watch out for the Colts and they lose to the Jaguars and Carson Wentz thing falls apart.

Speaker 1 It feels like they've been on the precipice even with Phil Rivers when they went to Buffalo and almost beat the Bills in the playoffs. And now they have to just reset everything.

Speaker 2 So I think if Chris Ballard tries to keep his job or any aspiring GM on the Colts, they're going to tell Jim Ursa that we're not that far off. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you could make the argument if you just look at, you know, they've got a great running back.

Speaker 1 They beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 On paper, they should have a good offensive line. They beat the Chiefs this year.

Speaker 2 They're pretty good. Ever heard of them?

Speaker 2 They were kicking the shit out of the Vikings at halftime.

Speaker 2 So what changed after that?

Speaker 2 I want an investigation. I want to know how it's possible that the Colts have gotten this bad since halftime of that game against the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were.

Speaker 2 What was the speech like?

Speaker 1 At one point this season, they were 3-2-1.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They were a team that was looking like they could compete for the AFC South, and it's completely fallen apart. Yeah, the Vikings loss is actually a historical loss.

Speaker 1 They got absolutely pounded by the Cowboys, pounded today. Yeah.
It's just a bad, bad scene.

Speaker 2 How bad have they been outscored since that halftime? Jake, can you look that up?

Speaker 2 So if you look at today's game, the game against the Cowboys, and then halftime from that point on against the Vikings,

Speaker 2 just off the top of my head, I would guess something like 80 to 10 or 90 to 10. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, they lost by 17 to the Chargers. They lost by 28 today.

Speaker 1 And the Cowboys, that was an absolute drumbing. It's just a shit show there.
Yep. An absolute shit show.

Speaker 1 Okay. But they did beat the Chiefs week three.

Speaker 1 Hang the banner.

Speaker 1 They actually might

Speaker 2 hang that banner. That's the one franchise that would probably do it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so next up,

Speaker 1 Max, turn your camera on. Saints 20.
Eagles 10.

Speaker 1 I'm officially worried.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 2 NFL rigged? That holding call and that pancake block? That was NFL rigged.

Speaker 1 That was a horrible call.

Speaker 1 You would have won this game. Heard Max from the other room just yell, that was a pancake.
And then we made him come and sit with us for the rest of the game.

Speaker 1 I'm worried. We got to get healthy.
We got to get healthy. You got to win in week 18, buddy.

Speaker 2 You told me you were healthy, Max.

Speaker 1 No, you don't got to get healthy. You got to win.
No, I thought we were good hunters.

Speaker 2 You said there are reports that Jalen Hurts is going to play. Confirmed.
You said confirmed.

Speaker 1 No, I said Wayne Johnson was confirmed for the playoffs, is what I said. Right.
Because

Speaker 1 he's opting not to get surgery. Correct.
Like a legend.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah.

Speaker 2 And then you told me Jalen Hurts was going to play.

Speaker 1 I don't think I ever said that.

Speaker 1 Do you know what would help with getting healthy is winning the fucking NFC number one season? I know. And maybe if Gardner Minshew didn't suck in the fourth quarter, then it could have happened.

Speaker 1 I actually think here's my hot take of the day. Jalen Hurts should be the MVP because of what we've seen from Gardner Minshew.
There's a lot of quotes that are looking really bad.

Speaker 1 Like, anyone can run this offense? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Even though Jalen Hurts is most likely not going to play the last three games of the season, give him the MVP because the debate is always, if you took this guy off the team, what would they look like?

Speaker 1 Well, now we know. 13-1, 13-1, 0-2.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think Feights tweeted about this last week when

Speaker 2 the pictures of Gardner Mitchie walking into the stadium started to go around.

Speaker 2 He said Gardner Mitchie probably leads the league, and people tweeting a picture of him on that entrance scroll and saying Eagles buy a million.

Speaker 1 It is true.

Speaker 2 You want to bet on the Eagles when you see Gardner Mitchie. I love him.
I love him too. He's a fun player to watch.
Well, he has been. He hasn't been fun this year, though.

Speaker 2 I don't know what it is about the offense. He's just, he doesn't seem like himself.
He's not the Gardner Minchieu that we fell in love with.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's not. And it's, I'm officially worried.
Yeah, the locker room, A.J. Brown was basically trashing Gardner Mincho in the locker room

Speaker 1 game.

Speaker 1 He was

Speaker 1 fucked.

Speaker 1 You motherfucker.

Speaker 1 I want to mute you.

Speaker 1 My hate for Hank has gone up with this Eagles' future I have. Because I see what he tries to do to you.
He is the worst. I hate everything about him.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I think A.J. Brown was like, yeah, he just had one read, and he was throwing it to me no matter what.
And that's what happens in the NFL. And it's just like, it's true, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts, MVP. I don't have to say that.

Speaker 1 He'll be back for Sunday, though. I don't know if he'll be back for the playoffs.

Speaker 2 Confirmed?

Speaker 1 Even if you don't get a buy?

Speaker 1 You have to get a buy. It's 14-point favorites.

Speaker 1 Hank, that was such a sad way to say that. It's 14-point favorites, Dad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it's 14-point favorites.

Speaker 2 You guys are going to get the one seat.

Speaker 1 Have to.

Speaker 2 Have to. I wouldn't worry about that.

Speaker 1 Stop fucking smiling. Don't get his fucking smile.
That is a contentious show.

Speaker 2 I mean, Hank's going to have to put the Giants in the Hungry Dog. If you want that Juicy Plus sign,

Speaker 1 it might just be the Giants. Yeah, a Hungry Dog of one.

Speaker 1 A lone wolf. A hungry wolf.

Speaker 2 Jake just texted. Thank you, Jake.
Colts have been outscored 97-16 since that time against the Vikings.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Just an absolute shit show.

Speaker 1 I'm worried. That's all I'm going to say.
This whole Eagles thing was based on them getting that one seat.

Speaker 1 They need to get the one seat. Things still could be fine.
Right now, they're not.

Speaker 1 The defense stepped up in the second half, which was big. Yeah, because

Speaker 1 that was my biggest worry watching the first half was, holy shit, this defense has gone to absolute shit. But then they played really well in the second half.

Speaker 2 Max, in the first half, I would be concerned about the offense. In the first half,

Speaker 2 I don't think Devontae Smith, Goddard, or Brown had a catch until the very end of the first half.

Speaker 1 But it's Gardner Mincho, and it's not Lane Johnson. So you kind of have to take the offense with a little bit of a grain of salt.
The defense,

Speaker 1 I do think Gardner Johnson is going to be back. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you saw something.

Speaker 2 No, he was just saying that based on your track record of saying people's players are coming back.

Speaker 1 I thought I was looking up. I was like, fuck, did I miss something? Did he? No,

Speaker 1 they will need to

Speaker 2 want to beat the Bucs, that's the key.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys should have

Speaker 1 just not tried against the Cowboys, not gotten injured, and then gotten the one seed this week. Yeah.
And everything would have been better.

Speaker 2 Max counterpoint, home playoff game, the Link.

Speaker 1 But they don't have it

Speaker 1 yet. Yet.

Speaker 2 Yeah. No, but I'm saying, at least in the first round of the playoffs.
No.

Speaker 1 No. They would go to the fifth.
No.

Speaker 1 The whole thing. Stop.
Stop.

Speaker 1 That was messed up by you.

Speaker 1 That was gross, what you just did right there. You knew that.

Speaker 1 No, they're the one seed. But you knew that they would go from one to five.

Speaker 2 They're the one seed.

Speaker 1 It's okay.

Speaker 2 They've been the one seed the entire season.

Speaker 1 Not to make it worse, because I'm on your team here, Max, but the Saints winning this game, you have their pick.

Speaker 1 It now, they went from the ninth pick to the 11th pick, so it's not terrible what happened today, but if they win in week 18,

Speaker 1 your pick from them could be somewhere around 15, which it would have been like top seven pick if you had beaten them today and then they lost in week 18. Yeah, that's not great.

Speaker 1 I'm not worried about the pick right now.

Speaker 1 But I'm just saying that that did happen. That did happen.

Speaker 1 Because I'm not going to be an Eagles fan next week. No, correct.
That does suck. Whatever.

Speaker 1 We just have to win next week.

Speaker 1 I don't care about the pick right now. We're winning now.
We're winning now right now. Okay.

Speaker 2 Win now. What do you think the spread's going to be for the Cowboys Commanders game next week?

Speaker 2 Because I was going to say you could trust maybe the Commanders could pull something off, but then if 2017 Carson Wentz comes out, that's what you need. Max, that's what you need.
You need it.

Speaker 2 You need MVP Carson Wentz to come out, beat the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 I was thinking this earlier.

Speaker 1 Wentz is so bad now that

Speaker 1 his arm on that pass.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't even think Eagles fans dislike Wentz anymore. No.
Like, he's so bad that it's just, that it's just. And you got your Super Bowl.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But, like, no, there was still a point when he came back and was so bad and was acting like shit that he was like the most hated guy in Philadelphia. Now it's kind of like, oh, who cares?

Speaker 1 He's so, so bad.

Speaker 2 But he could also save your ass.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Would love it.

Speaker 1 I'm down to root for Carson Wentz.

Speaker 2 Because things ended up so poorly in Philadelphia, Carson Wentz might just not want to save your ass.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, that's true.
He might throw the game. Oh, no.

Speaker 2 Carson Wentz might go out there and throw three interceptions.

Speaker 1 If he tried to throw the game, he would play the game of his life. He'd be like trying to fade yourself.

Speaker 1 The Saints, by the way, I would put them in the

Speaker 1 no one would have wanted to play them if they had made the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Because they actually have played the last four games, they're 3-1, and the one loss being that Monday night game against Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Every time I watch the Saints again, like, they have some guys.
Their defense has some grit to it.

Speaker 2 I would have put them in the nobody wants to watch them play in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 That too. That too.

Speaker 2 That would have been a classic Andy Dalton early Saturday playoff game. Barry is ass there.
That's where he's the most comfortable.

Speaker 2 But yes, the Saints are maybe, they might be the most boring, decent team in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Because their defense, you're right. Their defense is pretty good.

Speaker 1 And they have some offensive players that when Andy Dalton is playing decent,

Speaker 1 they look like a competent team. They're mixing in Taysom Hill.

Speaker 2 I think that's a franchise. I think, as a franchise, the Saints are well-run enough to even when they're at their most boring, most depressing, they're still going to hover around 500.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Shout out Drew Brees for getting them to that spot.
And also that we can't put on Purdue LSU to him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't think that we can say his name on

Speaker 2 property.

Speaker 1 That's true.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 Chiefs 27, Broncos 24.

Speaker 1 Shout out Russ Wilson

Speaker 1 and also, what's his name? Rossberg. Yeah, Rossberg.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Jeff Rossberg.

Speaker 1 Jerry Rossberg.

Speaker 2 Jerry Rossberg.

Speaker 1 The Broncos actually did,

Speaker 2 their offense looked somewhat competent today. Yeah, Russ was running the ball.

Speaker 1 Running, play action, all these things that Nathaniel Hackett, let's not make fun of him anymore because he's just gone, but it probably would have sucked to watch it if you're him and be like, wait, we were able to.

Speaker 1 Russ was able to run?

Speaker 2 My big question is, do you think Nathaniel Hackett watched this game? I don't think they. I don't think so.
I think he probably went on a hike somewhere. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Probably had some cardboard box in his house. He had to fill with dishes.

Speaker 1 He probably just watched

Speaker 1 what's it called? Austin Powers. Yeah, Austin Powers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, over and over and over.

Speaker 2 Or Patch Adams.

Speaker 1 Just to laugh about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he already

Speaker 2 watched the Packers game today. He might have watched the Packers game.
And just like, what if? Just imagine himself on the sidelines. Yeah.
I missed that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I mean, Russell Wilson looked good.

Speaker 2 He was running hard. He was running fast, and he wasn't doing that for Nathaniel Hackett.
Whether that was by design or whether that was Russell Wilson just not wanting to initiate contact.

Speaker 2 But I feel like what happened this week, where Broncos players kind of went to bat for him,

Speaker 2 it made Russell Wilson actually, he needed that

Speaker 2 to now want to go out there and lay it all out on the line and sacrifice his body to a certain extent to help the team win.

Speaker 1 I actually think that Russell Wilson, watching the post-game, he was genuinely showing emotion, like kind of teary-eyed, talking about his teammates having his back.

Speaker 1 I think he officially hit rock bottom and he's now coming back. Like,

Speaker 1 the internet has been mean to him. We've been mean to him.
The world's been mean to him. Subway's been mean to him.
Deservedly so for a lot of the things he's done.

Speaker 2 Subway held on to Jared longer than they held on to Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 They're like, wait till all the facts come out on Jared. But I do think he hit rock bottom.
And

Speaker 1 he is kind of auditioning for next year because it's not totally off the table that the Bronx would be like, we can't do this. So it was good that he played better.

Speaker 1 And the Chiefs, the Chiefs are just,

Speaker 1 I don't know if Chiefs fans, I'd love to hear from them if they're a little nervous going into the playoffs because

Speaker 1 their record is obviously incredible.

Speaker 1 They keep winning games, but the small stuff has to bother them. Like, Kadarius Tony dropped another punt today.

Speaker 1 I think they missed an extra point. Mahomes had a red zone interception.

Speaker 1 They've just had these teams hanging around. And when you play a playoff team, like if you play the Bills or the Bengals and you make these small mistakes, that's the difference in a playoff.

Speaker 2 Hasn't Harrison Bucker missed like six extra points this season?

Speaker 1 Andy Reed, I think it was like a 50. Yeah, he missed an extra point.

Speaker 2 He's missed a bunch of me.

Speaker 1 He missed a 50-plus yarder.

Speaker 2 He's weird because, like, he's usually pretty good from like 40 and beyond. And when I say beyond, I mean to like 60.
Yeah. He's a good long-distance kicker, at least he has been in the past.

Speaker 2 But this year, he just, it's him and Evan McPherson kind of stinks at extra points now, too. Yes.
On the Bengals, it's weird. But I think with the Chiefs, they're kind of,

Speaker 2 my prediction is Chiefs fans are just just thinking, we'll just smash the playoff button.

Speaker 1 Right, and Patrick Holmes, once we get there,

Speaker 2 we're going to be the Chiefs again.

Speaker 1 The only thing that would scare me, because you do have Patrick Mahomes to say, well, we have Patrick Mahomes, don't worry about it, which I agree with

Speaker 1 because he is that special. But I always am concerned when you have the little special teams things.

Speaker 1 I feel like special teams always decide these playoff games because it's a game on the margins and it's like one mistake. You know, we saw it with the Packers last year.
Remember

Speaker 1 when

Speaker 1 the Giants and 49ers, that NFC championship game, and I think it was Kyle Williams fumbled all those punts.

Speaker 1 The little things that are off, Cody Parky, little things that are off always end up showing up in the playoffs. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 Maybe Chiefs fans aren't worried about this because, like you said, the smash the playoff button. But they've played, so they lost to the Bengals by three.

Speaker 1 They played the Broncos in Mile High. They won by six.
They had to go to overtime against the Texans.

Speaker 1 They smashed the Seahawks, and then they won by three today. And they're dominating the games on the stats sheet.
Like that Texans game, they doubled their yardage. But the little mistakes

Speaker 1 will bite them in the ass once it gets the playoffs.

Speaker 2 There's a special teams coordinator, Dave Tob.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Toby Tob, yeah. Dave Tob.

Speaker 2 Legend. So he's the kind of guy that I think would probably,

Speaker 2 if he sees Tony fucking up, he's probably just going to pinch Tony.

Speaker 1 Or just don't return any punks.

Speaker 2 Because he's like the best special teams coordinator in the history of the NFL.

Speaker 2 So I think the little things,

Speaker 2 at least in the

Speaker 2 special teams part of the game, will probably get cleared up, or there's reason to believe that they'll get cleared up if you're a Chiefs fan.

Speaker 2 And then on offense, it's Andy Reid, it's Patrick Mahomes. They've been there before.
Although,

Speaker 2 they did point it out, Matt Nagy, just a great staff. It was pointed out earlier today that Patrick Mahomes has never won a road playoff game.
Crazy. So, because he's always had home fields.

Speaker 1 He's never played home homefields. He's never played in a road playoff game.

Speaker 2 But we don't know if he can go on the road and do it.

Speaker 1 He actually,

Speaker 1 hasn't really proven anything in this league. He hasn't.
Because winning on the road in the playoffs, Patrick's thing you can do.

Speaker 2 Patrick Mahomes has had everything handed to him in this league. Yes.
He's had it too easy.

Speaker 1 I just, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm way off. Maybe Chiefs fans feel totally different, but when you're playing these games and

Speaker 1 they haven't put anyone away. I guess they did the Seahawks.
Yeah, they did put Chiefs

Speaker 1 away. The police, the Oklahoma Police, shout out to the audience.
Shout out, Boys in Blue. I don't know.
They're playing with fire.

Speaker 1 One note that doesn't have anything with this game. I didn't realize that the draft this year is in Kansas City.

Speaker 1 So that's going to suck for me because it's going to be all stories about Mahomes' draft and how it changed everything.

Speaker 1 I do like the draft goes different places.

Speaker 2 I like it too. It's a traveling carnival at this point.
Yeah. Patrick Mahomes completed a pass to himself in today's game.

Speaker 1 Oh, Brett Favre.

Speaker 2 I have a prediction. If it hasn't happened yet, because I didn't look this up, Patrick Mahomes is going to throw a touchdown to himself at some point.

Speaker 1 I would think so. Yeah, without the table.
Didn't Mariota do that? He did. Mariota did that.
Brett Farm's first completion was to himself on the Falcons.

Speaker 2 I think Mariota did that against the Patriots, right?

Speaker 1 I think it was against the Chiefs. Yeah, I don't think it was the Patriots.
I think it was a playoff game against the game. It was just when the Chiefs came back and won that game.

Speaker 1 Or sorry, when the Titans came back and won that game, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't remember if they won.
It was, I believe it was against the Chiefs. I want to say Kelsey got knocked out, and then the Titans came back and won that game.

Speaker 1 And I might have reversed that entire thing in my head. I'm looking it up right now.
Look it up. Look it up.

Speaker 1 This is good. He gets the Chiefs.
And did they win? Titans?

Speaker 2 Marcus Mario throws a TD to himself on this crazy play.

Speaker 1 And what was the final score? I don't know.

Speaker 2 It's a YouTube thing. Oh.

Speaker 1 Search it. Someone searched it.
This is our version of making sure we don't have dementia. Can you remember this random playoff game from seven, eight years ago?

Speaker 3 2018?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure. No.
No, not 2018.

Speaker 2 Oh, Billy, it was on January 6th. January 6th.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Nice.
Shout out.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It's coming up.
It's your day. Yeah.
What do you have planned? I'm going to say that. Not a government building.
A little dust up.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Someone give me the actual score here.

Speaker 3 Titans versus Chiefs, January 19th.

Speaker 1 22-21. Titans.
Titans. Yes, they came back.
Second half, Kelsey got knocked out. I'm pretty sure it's because I had the Chiefs.
And I was like, this is bullshit.

Speaker 2 The Chiefs were up 21-3 at halftime.

Speaker 1 All right, so my mind was screwed up.

Speaker 2 And were scoreless in the second half.

Speaker 1 And yes, because that's the year after, or in that offseason, the

Speaker 1 Bears hired Matt Nagy. And Matt Nagy was, I think, the offensive coordinator.
Yeah. So, sick.
No points in the second half. Travis Kelsey did get knocked out.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Next up, Lions, 41, Bears, 10.

Speaker 1 Not a lot to say about this game. The Lions just absolutely kick the shit out of the Bears.

Speaker 1 I want the Bears to lose. I've said this before, but wanting the Bears to lose is just the most warm,

Speaker 1 like comforting thing because they are so good at losing.

Speaker 1 So they're dominant. They're one of the best losers out there.
They're really good, yeah. I don't understand any Bears fan that doesn't want them to lose this stretch run.

Speaker 1 I know that I said in October I would like them to mix in a win. At this point, it's

Speaker 1 not to sound like

Speaker 1 make it super serious, but it does feel franchise-altering if you go from the second pick to the fourth or fifth pick.

Speaker 2 Second is a big one.

Speaker 1 And it might be the first pick if the Texans can beat the Colts next next week. But it's so huge considering the fact that we just saw Bryce Young and C.J.
Stroud play.

Speaker 1 Everyone's going to want a quarterback. You could get a haul for this second pick and then reload your entire defense, hopefully, because their defense was so bad today.
And Justin Fields had no time.

Speaker 1 He got sacked seven times. He's been sacked the most out of any quarterback this year.
Being in the pockets actually more dangerous, Billy, for him right now.

Speaker 2 Well, because didn't he have 100 yards rushing in the first quarter? Yeah, which, I mean, again, Justin Fields does something in the first half that makes you be like, holy

Speaker 2 guy. This is the guy.

Speaker 1 And then they lose. It's a great plan that they've got set up.
They cannot win this last game. They have to lose.
They have to have the first or second pick, and they have to trade it.

Speaker 2 I think they're going to lose.

Speaker 1 I mean, they are the New England Patriots of losing. Yeah, they're very good at losing.
There's no way.

Speaker 1 It's a dynasty. I also wouldn't hate it if Justin Fields didn't play the last game.

Speaker 2 No, this is the one that you would hit.

Speaker 1 This is a huge hit in this game.

Speaker 1 And it's just, I don't want anything bad to happen.

Speaker 2 So the Lions are 7-2 in their last nine. Yep.
As far as their offense goes, they're incredible to watch. Their defense has improved.
Aiden Hutchinson has three interceptions on the year.

Speaker 1 The one today was, I don't even know what the play was. There was like four seconds left in the first half, and it felt like they were doing a Hail Mary, and then they didn't.

Speaker 2 He's a shut-down defensive end.

Speaker 1 He is. He's a locked down.

Speaker 3 He was against the sideline to prevent them from running out and stopping the club.

Speaker 1 But there was not even time for that. It was kind of a crazy thing that they were even running a play.
But yeah, he's been the real deal for them. And

Speaker 1 the one thing that would really, really suck, because I think we all agree the Lions would be very fun to be in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 If the Lions go to Green Bay and beat Green Bay, but the Seahawks also win, the Seahawks would go to the playoffs because they beat the Lions head-to-head.

Speaker 1 That would be the biggest bummer in terms of playoff enjoyment.

Speaker 2 If we're going to draw it up, and Lions fans, please turn this off right now.

Speaker 2 This is what happens to the Lions. Yeah, no, they're not going to be in the middle of the year.

Speaker 2 This is the most Lions thing to end the year. You're good.
You're actually really good. If you get to the playoffs, you can probably win some playoff games.
No,

Speaker 2 and then the Seahawks jump. You win your last game.

Speaker 1 I don't even think they're going to do that.

Speaker 2 You handle your business. And then the Seahawks get in because they win.
And you go home after winning a game.

Speaker 1 And no one wants to see the Seahawks in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 No one wants that. But okay, Lions fans, you can listen again.
This is how you know if it's brand new Lions or if it's same old Lions.

Speaker 1 I don't think they're going to beat Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau.

Speaker 1 He's on his fuck shit again. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I did like

Speaker 2 the play that they ran today. The Bears ran today, where they actually had somebody under center.

Speaker 1 It was a tight end came in motion, under center.

Speaker 2 They put a tight end at quarterback and then Justin Fields in at running back.

Speaker 1 They pitched it to him, and it was, I think it was a 50-yard game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was a sick play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think those are the plays that Luke Goetze has to put on paper to keep his job. Be like, hey, look, I have real plays.
Yeah. We're still trying to lose, but I have real plays.

Speaker 1 I'll show you them in the first quarter, and then I'm locking it down and we're not doing anything else.

Speaker 2 We've got plays. Yeah, they're doing a very good job of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I'm happy they lost.

Speaker 1 If you know,

Speaker 1 if you're friends with someone who's a Bears fan, if you have a family member who's a Bears fan who thinks that they should somehow try to win week 18, you need to tell them to shut the fuck up and then they got shit for Britain.

Speaker 1 This is not... Someone tried to tell me it's loser talk today.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 It's actually winner talk to try to actually set up your franchise to be in the best possible position to get the most possible picks going forward.

Speaker 1 And they also have cap space, so I've been doing a little trade machine in my head. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe a swap with the Raiders. The Raiders have the ninth pick right now, I believe.
Maybe a swap with the Raiders, and we'll take Devontae Adams off your hands. You get the second pick.

Speaker 1 We get the ninth pick. Maybe you throw in a second-round pick as well, Raiders.
You get your new quarterback. We get Devontae Adams.
Just something I've been thinking about. It is.

Speaker 2 The Raiders have the seventh pick. I agree that it's winner talk.

Speaker 2 It would be loser talk if you were playing against the Packers in the last week of the season and you had the opportunity to eliminate the Packers, then you want to win that game. Totally.

Speaker 2 In this case, I agree. I think it's winter talk.
And not to compare myself to Jesus again, but I did kind of sacrifice myself. I said a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 1 You did. The Commanders.
Credit to you.

Speaker 2 I will sacrifice the Washington Commanders' playoff opportunity if it means that the Lions can get in. Credit to you.
I want to see the Lions in the playoffs. I want to see Detroit enjoy themselves.

Speaker 2 So I was happy to do it. Credit to you.

Speaker 2 Back in three days.

Speaker 1 Big time credit to you.

Speaker 1 Jaguars, 31, Texans, three.

Speaker 1 We didn't watch this game. The Jaguars are just the hottest team in the NFL right now.

Speaker 2 They've won four games in a row.

Speaker 1 Six of eight.

Speaker 2 Six of eight.

Speaker 2 They won four games in total from 2020 and 2021 seasons. Yep.
They will be going for five wins in a row next weekend for the first time since 2005. Wow.

Speaker 1 They also beat the Texans for the first time since 2017. Wow.
They hadn't beaten the Texans

Speaker 1 in 2017. They also had the biggest halftime lead they've had, 21-0

Speaker 1 since the last time they beat the Texans in 2017.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. That division, it seems like it's filled with those types of weird stats where, like, the Colts don't win in Jacksonville.
Yep. The Jaguars don't beat the Texans.

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter how dog shit your team is. Derrick Henry runs for 200 yards every time he plays the Texans.
It doesn't matter how bad your team is.

Speaker 2 You always have like some weird stat in your favor in the AFC South.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Jaguars, it's a great lesson in that

Speaker 1 the NFL season is long, and we should never make blanket judgments since October, which we always do. But the Jaguars, at the end of October, were 2-6 off of a loss to the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 1 They were 2-6 heading into November off of a loss to the Denver Broncos. They've been 6-2 since.

Speaker 1 They have a win-and-get-in game against the Titans on week 18, which might be flexed, which might be flexed. No, Jake's down about that.
Might not be flexed.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't want to play the Jaguars right now. No.
I mean, they're hot.

Speaker 2 Jaguars, so Trevor Lawrence is like a completely different player.

Speaker 1 And you have to play in Duval.

Speaker 2 They're doing that thing. Trevor Lawrence and Doug Peterson, for whatever reason, they're just working together as like one person.
They're sharing a brain.

Speaker 1 Doug Peterson's a really good fucking head coach.

Speaker 2 He's a great coach. It's insane how he got fired.
I think they're going to smoke the Titans. Yeah.
I think that we're going to be jagging off in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Duvall, fill up the pool.

Speaker 2 Everyone put your jeans on. We're going swimming.
It's going to be great. I'm psyched.
Jackson Deville is going to be wearing a thong, descending from the top of the rafters.

Speaker 2 Tony Cox is going to be there. Get all the major Jacksonville players in town.

Speaker 1 It feels like, by the way, the Texans got the memo that they have to lose as well today.

Speaker 2 Well, so a counterpoint to what you said earlier about like, let's go back to ourselves at the start of the year and tell ourselves that we don't know shit about the NFL. Yeah.

Speaker 2 We were dead right about the Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 We nailed the Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 Oh, they're so bad. They're very bad.
And

Speaker 1 I would like them to try hard week 18 against the Colts because that's a winnable game. But it does feel like the tank Texans, because they had those games, remember, against the Chiefs and

Speaker 1 Sunday Night Football. A miss.
They had those games against the Chiefs and the Cowboys where they were very much in them.

Speaker 1 Someone somewhere told Lovey, hey, dude, why don't you chill chill out? Like, we'll give you your job next year, but you got to chill out. You got to stop with this shit.

Speaker 2 So that's the question.

Speaker 2 I don't think that Lovey's going to be there next year.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Would that be back-to-back years? They fired a coach one year?

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 1 I think they'll let him stay for one more year.

Speaker 2 I think they just got rid of, what's his face, Easterby, Russ Buten? So he's out. They're going to, I think, let Casero run the show now.
I just.

Speaker 2 They want to hire Josh McCown.

Speaker 1 But they're still a year away from being a year away.

Speaker 2 But they've got draft picks.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 2 They do have draft picks. They've got draft picks.

Speaker 1 We'll see.

Speaker 2 I hope they keep Lovey around, too.

Speaker 1 Try harder next week, Texans. Please.

Speaker 1 Last one of the early slate, Falcons Cardinals, didn't watch a second. Had no playoff implications.
Desmond Ritter won a game?

Speaker 2 I watched a little bit because David Blau said that he was going to let it rip.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 2 So that was his pregame quote. He's like, he basically said, fuck it.
This is maybe the only chance I'll ever get to start in a game. Your audition, yeah.

Speaker 2 So in my mind, I was like, he's going to throw no fewer than three interceptions and fumble twice. Like when David Blau is letting it rip, he lets it rip.

Speaker 2 And so I went back, watched all the highlights of this game, of which there were more than one. Okay.
And David Blau played remarkably conservative, and he protected the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So his, I think this answers the question, like David Blau on the continuum of backups between a gunslinger and game manager, he's firmly in the game manager.

Speaker 1 Yeah, letting it rip.

Speaker 2 We know that. Letting it rip is like one touchdown, no interceptions.
Right, right. Great game for David Black.

Speaker 1 He did throw the ball 40 times. Yeah.
He did let it rip. He did.

Speaker 2 He let it rip. He was safe with it.
This game did not really have any true highlights. No.
It was like a couple short completions.

Speaker 1 I guess we did watch the very end.

Speaker 1 Good for Arthur Smith to win a game. Yeah.
But like we said in fastest two minutes, two most attractive coaches in the NFL.

Speaker 2 I think Arthur showed Cliff who's boss. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 Arthur Smith is a a hot body.

Speaker 1 Cliff Kingsbury, you're old news.

Speaker 2 Well, it's like you want a man or you want a boy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Arthur Smith is next up in terms of hot coaches. Yeah.
Like I could definitely see that being a Sports Illustrated cover.

Speaker 1 Maybe even the swimsuit edition.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Cliff Kingsbury is Instagram.
Arthur Smith is LinkedIn.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's a boss.
Yeah, he is. He's a boss.
He's a boss. All right, let's do a quick ad and then we'll get to the afternoon games.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we're back at it. We're going to get to Sunday night recap in a minute because we just watched the entire game.
Let's get back into the afternoon slate. Chargers 31, Rams 10.

Speaker 1 Not a whole lot

Speaker 1 other than the fact that the Chargers actually could get the fifth seed now, which would be good for your future.

Speaker 2 It would be. So everything's kind of playing out the way that I envisioned when I put that future down.
I saw, in my mind, I saw the Ravens losing. I saw the Chargers winning out.

Speaker 2 Then the Chargers get to go to Jacksonville in the playoffs, which although the Jaguars are hot and they beat the fuck out of the Chargers earlier this season, you'd still rather go there than you would go to Buffalo, Kansas City, or Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so the Chargers ⁇ I mean, it was good to see the Chargers have kind of ⁇

Speaker 1 you're waiting for them to charger it up and they have it. Like, that was a game they should have won, and they won convincingly.

Speaker 2 There's still plenty of time for the Chargers to charger around a little bit.

Speaker 1 Well, it'll just happen in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 It'll happen in the offs, yeah. So

Speaker 2 it was a good win. Kinjak tweeted out something interesting.
Kinjak, the only actual Chargers fan, I think, in the world, tweeted out a stat about Austin Eckler that I was not aware of.

Speaker 2 And we should be respecting Austin Eckler a little bit more than we are, I think. Total touchdowns in 2001, 2022 for the following AFC running backs: Nick Chubb, 21 touchdowns.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Josh Jacobs, 20 touchdowns. Okay.
Derrick Henry, 20 touchdowns. Austin Eckler, 38 touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Wow. But yeah, he's a weapon.
Pretty good. Absolute weapon.
Who was the guy? Who is the one Chargers fan?

Speaker 1 The other one we knew?

Speaker 1 Boltman? Boltman. No, no, no, no.
The guy in the comments section. Oh, Shane Argentina.
Oh, Sierra Nevadas. He had diarrhea something.
Yeah. Yeah.
Sierra Nevadas. He was just

Speaker 1 an old school parcel.

Speaker 1 He would just comment. He was the only Chargers fan I ever knew.
He would just be like, got some Sierra Nevadas getting ready for the Chargers game.

Speaker 1 I think his comments handle was like Diarrhea Man or something.

Speaker 2 I did meet a Chargers fan this weekend, actually. I I think I got Shane.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Shane.

Speaker 2 He had a Chargers tattoo on his leg.

Speaker 1 I met him too, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that guy, I was like, that's a decision.

Speaker 1 That's also very funny because I think he just goes around and tells everyone, like, hey, look, I'm a Chargers fan.

Speaker 2 I'm a Chargers fan. Look,

Speaker 2 I can prove it.

Speaker 1 His name was, Can I Have a Side of Diarrhea with That? Can I Have a Side of Diarrhea with That? Bolt up. And he would just comment, like, getting ready for the Chargers, boys.

Speaker 1 Like, got my Sierra Nevadas. Everyone in the comments section would be like, go for it, man.
We love you. Bolt up.
Yeah, that was, that's, shout out him.

Speaker 1 legend of the chargers fandom bolt up the good news for the chargers also joey bosa played back half half the snaps today so he's gearing back up uh yeah and i chargers are looking good brandon saley saved his job on paper everything works with these chargers it's kind of scary like they should if if the nfl was actually played on a spreadsheet the chargers would be like the patriots yeah and they would be just dominant and and and i i think we talked about this last week but mike williams when mike Williams is out there and Keenan Allen, like, I start to believe in the Chargers because they look totally different.

Speaker 1 Yep. And it just shows how deep the AFC is.
The NFC is an absolute shit show

Speaker 1 where we're talking about maybe the Bucs making a run. By the way, we totally forgot to mention the greatest punt of all time by the Bucs punter who saved,

Speaker 1 maybe saved the game by picking it up and kicking it off the side of his foot running down the field. But the Chargers,

Speaker 1 I'm starting to believe in the Chargers as well. The AFC playoffs are going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 There's not one, the seventh seed, whoever gets it, you could say maybe the weak link, but one through six, any of those teams can make a deep run.

Speaker 2 Definitely. And the key, I think, to this offense is when their tight end gets involved.
Everett, dude is fucking huge. Huge.

Speaker 2 And he wears number seven, which is always weird to see when he catches the ball. You're like, wait a second,

Speaker 2 who is that monster? Because I think he's 6'3 ⁇ , 240 pounds, South Alabama.

Speaker 2 This dude is fucking awesome. And when he's involved on offense, then you've got Mike Williams, who's also a legitimate red zone threat.
Keenan Allen, also just a big dude.

Speaker 2 They've got massive targets.

Speaker 1 And it actually is a perfect, like when the Chargers were struggling earlier in the season, Everett was the only thing they had.

Speaker 1 So it was now that they have all their pieces together, the Chargers are dangerous. The Rams, I don't, Cam Akers has kind of saved his career.
That's nice. He's back 100-yard games.

Speaker 2 Kind of came out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 Just figured the Rams were going to have this letdown after the Christmas beat down they had of the broncos they're just not that talented and uh yeah i don't maybe they'll maybe they'll beat the seahawks week week 18.

Speaker 2 i can see that happen yeah i can definitely see that it's interesting because um you've got cam acres who's been playing like really well but at the beginning of the season he was a doghouse guy oh yeah i feel like running backs are the most doghoused position right yes if you're if you fumble you get in a doghouse yeah if you just don't show if you don't work hard enough in camp don't watch enough film if you don't if your blocking isn't on point as a rookie, you get into a coach's doghouse.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. You very rarely get out of a doghouse.
It seems like Cam Akers has worked his way out.

Speaker 1 He's worked his way out of the doghouse, yeah. And he's also one of those guys who's sneaky so young.
What is this, his second or third year?

Speaker 1 But because of the injuries and everything, you think he's been around forever. He was good in college.

Speaker 2 Don't they have also Malcolm Brown? Is there other running back? I believe. I think he scored a touchdown today.
Malcolm Brown, that dude's got to be like 33,

Speaker 1 34. I mean, running backs, I can never get running backs.

Speaker 2 I remember he went to Texas and he was like the number one recruit, or he was top 10 in the 2019.

Speaker 1 28 years old.

Speaker 2 At like any position.

Speaker 1 Different Malcolm Brown. Different Malcolm Brown.

Speaker 2 Another Malcolm Brown that went to Texas.

Speaker 1 Yes, there's a different

Speaker 1 one. Malcolm Brown, running back.
He's 29 years old.

Speaker 2 29. Yeah, I guess in running back years, that's like 40.

Speaker 1 Yeah, running backs,

Speaker 1 I can never actually get their ages. Yeah, K Akers is 23.
Okay, next up, Niners, 37, Raiders, 34. We forgot in all the Cowboys, Hank's trolling of Cowboys one seed talk.

Speaker 1 The Niners can absolutely get the one seed. If the Eagles do end up slipping up in week 18 and the Niners win, they get the one seed, not the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when they kind of incepted in my brain and it got going, the Raiders were up 14. Ah, okay.
Gotcha. You said that you were talking about this before the Saints came.
Oh, that's true. But I said

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Vikings and the 49ers needed to lose one of the next two games. It appeared, obviously, the Raiders are the Raiders, but that game was going as if the 49ers were going to lose.

Speaker 2 But wait, just to clarify, when you say when it got incepted in your brain, you mean when you thought about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and also, again, just to back up what Max said, you said you came into the day before the Saints Eagles game saying Cowboys one seed. Yeah, I said, imagine what it's going to be like.

Speaker 1 You were kind of like, Cowboys are going to get the one seed. They still might.
Okay. All right.
Yeah. And if they are, I'll put my hand up and say, sorry, Hank, I was wrong.

Speaker 1 And what will you do if they don't? I'll shake that hand. No, no, no, no.
You'll say, I'm sorry. I was wrong.
I'm on my troll shit.

Speaker 1 Only if the Eagles get the one seed.

Speaker 1 If the 49ers get it. If the Eagles blow the one seed.
If the 49ers get it,

Speaker 1 if the Eagles blow the one seed, I will not be apologizing for anything. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Jared Siddhum was actually not bad in this game. He had a couple interceptions, but

Speaker 1 he, like, I don't think anyone expected Jared Siddham to look like that.

Speaker 2 No, he was good in the first place.

Speaker 1 The Raiders got in a shootout with the Niners defense that I think before this weekend, and you can't make a judgment after one game, if you like, pulled everyone's,

Speaker 1 like, the best

Speaker 1 unit in the NFL, the Niners' defense would be up there. Yeah.
And they got kind of obliterated today, which I don't know if it's a one-game aberration, but

Speaker 1 that was a crazy, crazy game.

Speaker 2 I mean, if you're Jared Siddham, you have to be almost relieved right right now because he had a great thing going for him, which was just be one offensive coordinator's pet guy that he brings around with him everywhere, his security blanket, his all-time backup, and never actually have to show anything in a game because then the ruse might be over.

Speaker 2 Yeah. If you have to actually perform, he goes out.
Yeah, he had two interceptions, threw three touchdowns, almost 400 yards.

Speaker 2 Now he's just got to breathe out and be like, thank God I didn't blow that.

Speaker 1 Just hope no one watches week 18 because there'll probably be a correction.

Speaker 2 But it's better that he did this in this game. It gets a good defense.
Yes. Now it's like, okay, imposter syndrome.
Get that out of the way.

Speaker 2 He knows he's supposed to be there right now. Yep.
Because this could have been a disaster for him.

Speaker 1 It could have been a disaster. I think everyone thought it was going to be a disaster.
It was like a 10-point spread.

Speaker 1 The Niners, by the way. The Christian McCaffrey trade, turns out it was really, really good.

Speaker 1 So since he got traded, remember the first week against the Chiefs, it was like a limited roll because he got traded that week.

Speaker 1 So not counting that game, he has 1,000 yards and nine touchdowns in nine games, and they're 9-0. Yeah, pretty good.
9-0 since he got traded to the Niners. Kind of a game changer.

Speaker 2 And every team loses the week after they play them. Yep.
So bet against the Raiders and Jared Siddham, fade them is what we're saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I am very much a believer that games can get out of hand and like the tenor of a game. We're going to talk about Michigan and TCU where I don't think the Niners defense is all of a sudden bad.

Speaker 1 It's just this game became a shootout out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 Out of basically, I mean, the Raiders marched down in the first drive, and sometimes games pinball like that, and it's not saying the Niners have a bad defense.

Speaker 1 If they do it two weeks in a row, maybe I'd say, huh, that's weird.

Speaker 2 I think they'll be okay. This was a major look-ahead game, too, for the 49ers.
It's the Raiders. They're not playing against Derek Carr.

Speaker 1 They should play every year, though. Oh, absolutely.
I wish the Nina.

Speaker 2 But they should play in the Bay Area.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they should play in the Bay Area every year. So that means the Niners would also have to probably move their stadium.
Yes.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 2 Move it an hour north. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The Raiders remember that Devontae Adams is good. That was pretty much the difference between the offense with Stidham and the offense with Carr is they just kept throwing the ball to Devontae Adams.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And be like, okay, our best player, let's get him involved in some of the plays.
And then maybe he'll score a couple touchdowns. There was a report before the game.

Speaker 2 In case you were interested and curious, when you saw the news about Derek Carr getting benched, you might have thought to yourself, wait, is Derek Carr going to retire now?

Speaker 2 I know we all thought about that, right?

Speaker 1 No. Oh, you didn't? Oh, no, I thought he he was going to retire.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay, good. Because

Speaker 2 Ian Rappaport tweeted out this morning that Derek Carr has decided not to retire.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. So he's coming back.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so he's not retiring. He's just benched for two games.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Point of clarification: he'll be back. He'll be on the Colts next year.

Speaker 1 Okay, we need Rappaport to tweet one of those for our friend Will Compton. Not retired.

Speaker 2 We do not retire. Just

Speaker 2 year 11 loading.

Speaker 1 Year 11 loading. Wait for it.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 The next game. So yeah, Niners looks like they're going to be, they could be the one seed.

Speaker 1 They could be.

Speaker 1 They could be the one through three at this point. So we'll see what happens week 18.
I think if they win and the Eagles win, they're the two seed.

Speaker 2 If they win,

Speaker 2 I'm running the simulation right now.

Speaker 1 I believe that's what it is.

Speaker 2 If they win and the Eagles win, they will be the two seed.

Speaker 1 The Vikings are the only team that can't get the one seed at this point.

Speaker 1 Of those, like the Cowboys, the Niners, the Eagles.

Speaker 1 The Vikings cannot get the one seed.

Speaker 2 Yes, they're going to be either two or three. Yeah.

Speaker 2 If you're the Vikings, you probably

Speaker 2 might want to consider

Speaker 2 not playing against the Packers in the first round. I don't know if you want that two-seed.

Speaker 1 Probably something you should consider.

Speaker 2 You've got to think about it.

Speaker 1 But, yeah, and then you have the reverse where the Packers probably don't want to play the Niners. Correct.
So,

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Seahawks, Jets.
Seahawks 23. Jets 6.
The New York Football Jets have been eliminated from the playoffs.

Speaker 1 They were 6-3.

Speaker 1 I know that this is... Oh, I had one.
Fuck, I forgot. I had one last thing about the Niners.

Speaker 1 I have to bring this up because I think it's a take that's going to start happening, and it's crazy to say that it's coming from the craziest person in our office, but Frank the Tank did bemoan that the Dolphins should have drafted Jared Stidtham.

Speaker 1 I do think, or sorry, Brock Purdy. I do think that that will be a real take that people will say, well, they should have drafted Brock Purdy, Mr.

Speaker 1 Irrelevant, even though I would say every single quarterback in the NFL would look good in this. No, no offense to Brock Purdy.

Speaker 2 Except for Carson Wentz.

Speaker 1 Except for Carson Wentz, would look good in this 49ers offense. No offense to Brock Purdy, but he is in the best possible situation a quarterback could ever be in.

Speaker 2 He is, but to his credit, he's also making some pretty good throws.

Speaker 1 And he does this thing where he gets out of the, he like slides back out of the pocket.

Speaker 1 That, I don't know, it's just, it doesn't, it probably didn't show up in his scouting report, and he looks awesome doing it, and it always ends up being like a 6, 15-yard pass.

Speaker 2 He's got Moxie.

Speaker 2 Kyle Shannon said in in preseason he's got the it factor, and I don't know what the it factor is, but I know that when Kyle Shanahan says he likes a quarterback, you should listen to him when he says that.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. Now, it's going to be interesting next year what happens when Trey Lance gets healthy.
What do you do? Do you stick with Brock Purdy?

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 we're going to start having the conversation soon of like,

Speaker 2 like how we talked about Tom Brady. Like,

Speaker 2 how could 32 teams not draft this?

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Frank Tank is the canary in the coal mine.
That take is coming. He was

Speaker 1 He was the first one to it. All right.

Speaker 1 I didn't intentionally do this, but I have to reintroduce this game. Seahawks 23, Jets 6, the New York Football Jets have been eliminated from the playoffs.

Speaker 2 I'm curious to know who got eliminated first, by the way. Was it the Commanders or the Jets?

Speaker 1 By the clock.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 the Commanders lost. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 The Vikings went final last game.

Speaker 2 So, Billy, your team got eliminated first. Yeah.
Sorry. I feel bad for you as a Jets fan.

Speaker 1 It's going to be tough. And, Billy, I feel bad for you as well.

Speaker 1 I know that the joke that is always made whenever a team wins a big game in the regular season, they're like, congrats on the week four Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 That actually applies for this Jets season. They won the Week 9 Super Bowl when they beat the Bills and went to 6-3.
They've been 1-6 since.

Speaker 3 I think it's even worse, I think, when we beat the Packers.

Speaker 1 That one was, yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Sauce put the cheese head on.

Speaker 2 That's when it started.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's when the whole I feel bad for you guys started. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, no, that was the Thursday night game. Commanders Bears.
I know, but we were coming up.

Speaker 1 He literally said he felt bad for us as fans because his Jets team was so good and they were heading to the playoffs. Yeah.
They've been eliminated from the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I said that yet. With a week left.
With a week left, they've been eliminated from the playoffs. Yeah.
Now,

Speaker 2 how do you think this game plays out if you have Zach Wilson in there?

Speaker 6 Honestly, I think. First.

Speaker 2 I want to see if he was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 I mean, the thing is, Zach Wilson just was a lightning rod for criticism. And I'm really trying to figure out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you said the stake. You said the stake before.
I want to hear it.

Speaker 3 For the people, I'm going to dedicate my whole offseason to figuring out what is the reason why quarterbacks are having real problems succeeding in the New York Jets organization.

Speaker 3 Because, look, we played a former New York Jet quarterback today, and he played pretty freaking well.

Speaker 1 Wait, but you said specifically, you said, I really do think it's the New York media that makes the the Jets bad.

Speaker 1 Do you think it's different media that covers the Giants?

Speaker 3 Well, I think that the lightning rod that is the Jets gets is the fullback for the Giants because they get all the heat.

Speaker 3 Like, if you looked at the criticism, I mean, it's a lot more warranted for what was happening, but I think it did mess with dudes' heads.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, do you think it has anything to do with drafting poorly or coaching or anything?

Speaker 2 No, it's the very dishonest journalists. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They say Gil Mushnik or whatever his name is.

Speaker 2 Green team bad. Yeah.
And they just hate the quarterback.

Speaker 1 Quarterback, terrible person.

Speaker 3 I think it's one of those things where, depending on the type of person and player you are going into New York, you're going to attract a lot more immediate attention.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to be able to play with

Speaker 3 players.

Speaker 1 Shouldn't they draft? If you know that, shouldn't you draft someone who can handle it?

Speaker 3 Definitely.

Speaker 2 Or maybe trade for somebody that can handle it. Or find a quarterback that you know.

Speaker 3 Like, I think maybe the Giants had that more in mind when they picked a guy like Daniel Jones, who kind of everyone used to comment this, like, looked like he was a finance bro.

Speaker 2 As opposed to Zach Wilson, that looks like he's a blue-collar constructor.

Speaker 3 Looks like he's banging moms. And like, there was just a lot of money.

Speaker 1 He looks like a finance bro, but it's like his summer internship, his junior year, Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Wait, Daniel Jones has gotten a ton of criticism.

Speaker 3 He has, but he's not gone into as much media scrutiny.

Speaker 2 Because he's not as bad. Well, and also he's

Speaker 2 good now.

Speaker 3 He has good answers at the podium.

Speaker 1 So is this a Zach Wilson should have banged those moms take? I'm just trying to figure out.

Speaker 3 I'm just trying to figure out what's actually the common denominators that's derailing all these quarterbacks, and then they leave.

Speaker 1 They might be bad.

Speaker 2 I think it's drafting poorly.

Speaker 3 But what about Sam Darnold?

Speaker 2 Right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 He had a good week this week. Geno Smith has had a whole career.

Speaker 2 Sam Darnold, you can blame. Can't you blame him on Adam Gace?

Speaker 1 And getting mono. Yeah.
True.

Speaker 3 I mean, like

Speaker 3 New York media

Speaker 3 sniffed that one out pretty well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they got him pretty good there.

Speaker 3 Like seeing ghosts. I don't know.
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 I'm going to try to.

Speaker 2 get a gase, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then that was Gates. I was on ESPN.
That was Monday Football.

Speaker 3 I might do like a docuser, like try to figure out what the hell's going on.

Speaker 1 So just so we're clear, the docuseries is the Jets aren't bad. The media has made them bad.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.
I think the docuser could just be like a review of their draft choices.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but like the thing is, they drafted pretty well this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they have drafted back. Yeah.
Yeah. Just not

Speaker 1 a very important position. I think the most important position in all of sports.

Speaker 2 I understand what Billy's saying because, and you should probably understand this too.

Speaker 2 We are fans of dysfunctional franchises. Yeah.
And a lot of that does have to do with their inability to develop a quarterback.

Speaker 1 No, but that's what New York is.

Speaker 1 In New York, it's the media.

Speaker 2 So Big Cat in Chicago, which has no media, it's the wins. It's the wins' fault.
In D.C., it's the swamp.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And the practice field and the game field.

Speaker 1 And the ownership. And the game field and sober field, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm not standing on that take as something incredulous, but like looking at it.

Speaker 1 Not the right word. That's okay.
Keep going. What? No, no, it's not.
What do you think of this meaning? Like, I'm not trying to be like,

Speaker 3 that take I said in jest, and now we're bringing it up, but, like, it would be funny to figure out what exactly is going on. I would like to see that.

Speaker 3 If you were to interview Sam Darnold, Gino Smith, even Mark Sanchez, and just ask them to do it.

Speaker 1 Christian Hackenberg. This would actually be a great little video series, maybe thesis.
I would like to read something.

Speaker 2 I might write up a report and give it to the Jets.

Speaker 1 I actually, you know what?

Speaker 1 You should do that, and you're going to do that. You have to do that.
Yeah. There's

Speaker 1 eliminate the mic.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 A Billy football

Speaker 2 investigation. It's a partnership with the NTSB.

Speaker 2 It's going to be like a PhD.

Speaker 1 Yeah. PhD level.
Yeah. It's going to be great.

Speaker 1 I do feel bad for you, Billy, and I'm not saying that just to get back at you for that time you said that to us.

Speaker 1 Because I do think this Jets team was better than

Speaker 1 it was better than what they ended up with their record. Their quarterback position was a disaster.
And the silver lining is you did find out like Mike White is not the guy.

Speaker 1 So you don't have to delude yourself.

Speaker 1 Like, it actually would have been in a long-term play, would have been bad for Mike White to win these last two games, get in the playoffs, and be like, Mike White's the guy.

Speaker 1 He's a nice player, but he's not the guy. I think he has a long career as a backup, maybe a couple of spot starts here where he can electrify everyone.

Speaker 1 But I do feel bad for you, Billy, because I do think this Jets' defense was very good.

Speaker 1 And there was a lot of shit talking about the Jets and respecting the Jets, and they have been eliminated from the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I hate to have to keep reporting this, but it has to be reported. The New York football Jets have been eliminated from the playoffs.

Speaker 3 Did you see what Rap Report reported?

Speaker 1 What have they been eliminated?

Speaker 3 No, that the Jets aren't going to move on from Zach Wilson.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't know what that means.

Speaker 2 They probably are trying to trade him, get some decent value out of that.

Speaker 1 What happens if he ends up doing that? He said the same thing about Darnold, and then they traded him.

Speaker 3 What happens if he ends up being good somewhere else?

Speaker 1 Well, he probably will. I'll say no.
I'm going to say no. I mean, look, Geno Smith, Sam Darnold.
Yeah, Sam Darnold and Geno Smith were better than Zach Wilson.

Speaker 2 It took Geno Smith like eight years to get good.

Speaker 1 And Sam Darnold, we don't still know. I mean, he's had a couple nice games.

Speaker 3 But, you know, it was, hopefully we went and beat the Dolphins next week, but that actually would be worse draft-wise.

Speaker 3 It'll be fun to see what happens.

Speaker 2 It will be fun to see what happens.

Speaker 1 It will be fun to see what happens.

Speaker 3 We're closing the chapter on a season, but

Speaker 1 it was fun while it lasted.

Speaker 2 So there is something to be said for a bad franchise having a couple months where they're like, we're good. Yeah.
Where you think that you're good. It feels awesome.

Speaker 2 It makes the football season go along a lot smoother. You feel better about yourself when your football team's winning.
So I'm happy for Jets fans because of that.

Speaker 1 September and October.

Speaker 2 And also, you have a great scapegoat in Zach Wilson.

Speaker 2 It's really easy to be like,

Speaker 2 this dude's the reason why our season sucked, but only because the media made him back.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly. So there's double blame.
Yeah. But yeah, six and three.

Speaker 1 The very dishonest flying New York.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and by the way, the one win was against the Bears who were trying to lose, and it was Trevor Simeon.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's been bad football. I know you have that Robert Salah.
Coach of the Year ticket. What percentage do you think that might cash? Never know.
Maybe people put in their votes in October, Hank.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I mean, I said it was going to be a coach from New York.

Speaker 6 Dable.

Speaker 6 I think Dable's definitely going to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Go back, check the tape.

Speaker 3 I said it was either going to be a coach from New York, Dable, or Sala. And yeah.

Speaker 1 So you only bet on one.

Speaker 3 I only posted one.

Speaker 1 So you did bet on the other. So can we see that? You bet on both of them.
Can we see the other one?

Speaker 1 So, Billy.

Speaker 2 So, Billy, when you put your bet in and you placed your money on the Giants, what were the odds on that for Brian Dable?

Speaker 3 I bet on Salah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. We knew.

Speaker 1 That's a constructive way of saying I did not bet on

Speaker 1 Brian Dable Dable. I said Seball.

Speaker 3 But whatever.

Speaker 1 Anyway.

Speaker 2 No, Billy, listen, we're giving Billy a lot of shit, but honestly, it will be interesting to see what happens.

Speaker 3 Because, like, what if we pick up Lamar Jackson?

Speaker 2 It will be fun to see what happens.

Speaker 3 We could pick up Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but how is he going to deal with that?

Speaker 2 I don't think Lamar Jackson wants to deal with New York meeting. No.
Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 I mean, taxes. Tyreek don't want to come here.

Speaker 2 Maybe some of that good water would be good.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's taxes.

Speaker 3 Actually, that might be like one of my body paragraphs. Taxes.
Why taxes have impacts to the New York Jets?

Speaker 1 Oh, I like that too. Yeah, it's good.
It's really good.

Speaker 1 Okay. And then the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 That's probably why Sam Darnold was going out in Hoboken.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Probably why he was slumming it with 22-year-olds instead of making out with high-society people on the Upper East side. True.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 The Seahawks are still alive. Pete Carroll's never lost four games in a row with the Seahawks.
They staved that off today.

Speaker 1 I mean, they looked a lot better today, and that's a good Jets defense, and they were all over them.

Speaker 1 Never really a doubt. And now the Seahawks have to win and have the Lions win for them to get into the playoffs to get that seventh seat.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it could happen. It could happen.
The Seahawks just kind of keep hanging in there.

Speaker 2 Pete Carroll, probably never going to retire. Probably just going to coach football and look like he's 55 for the rest of his life.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 2 I wonder what he's going to do when he does hang it up.

Speaker 2 Because he probably doesn't doesn't want to go through a complete rebuild, right?

Speaker 1 No. And we don't want that brain out there.

Speaker 2 No. Free.
No.

Speaker 1 With no football to tie it down.

Speaker 2 I don't know what he's going to do. A lot of free hours.
That scares me.

Speaker 1 Maybe uncover the world's greatest mysteries.

Speaker 2 He's probably going to figure out why the media is treating the New York Jets. He does have a lot of conspiracies about Jets.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's true. All right.
Last game. Oh, actually, we'll do Sunday night football as well.
Packers 41, Vikings 17.

Speaker 1 This was an absolute shit kicking.

Speaker 1 It sucks that I wasn't wasn't able to enjoy this because I was in a rocking-hard place where we've been on the Vikings are frauds.

Speaker 1 And then now it seems like Aaron Rodgers is going to actually do this.

Speaker 1 I don't know how he keeps doing this, how he keeps getting away with it, but the Packers are in a true win-and-get-in situation week 18 at home against the Lions. It's fucked up.

Speaker 1 I just hope they have to play the Niners and get absolutely pumped by them. But fuck, they're playing decent football right now.

Speaker 2 The good news for you is if they don't make the playoffs at all, then you don't get to watch Aaron Rodgers lose in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's another banner.

Speaker 2 That's actually like it's a banner for him in a weird way if he doesn't make the playoffs. Yeah, it's a year without a loss.

Speaker 2 It was this game sucked because I've been nice to Cousins three times this year.

Speaker 2 Somebody tweeted this at me and let me know there were three times that I believed in Kirk Cousins: before the Eagles game,

Speaker 2 before the Cowboys game,

Speaker 2 and before the Packers game.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 hand up, I should never, but you should want me to not believe in the Vikings. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The Vikings fans should beg me to just stay away from their team.

Speaker 2 I'm happy to do that. It'll probably happen naturally.
But here's some fun stats courtesy of Stathole Sports about their point differential.

Speaker 2 The Minnesota Vikings are at 12-4, negative 19 in their total point differential this season. Since the 1970 merger, the average point differential, guess what the average point differential is?

Speaker 1 For what?

Speaker 2 For 12-4 teams.

Speaker 2 There have been 88 of them.

Speaker 1 Let's say plus 75.

Speaker 2 119. Whoa.
Average plus 119.

Speaker 2 And there are three 12-4 teams, the 49ers, the Cowboys, the Vikings. 49ers plus 148.
Cowboys plus 145. Vikings minus 19.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And the Raiders are minus five this season.

Speaker 2 So the Raiders are 14 points better as the season goes than the Vikings are.

Speaker 1 Damn. Yeah, I mean, the Vikings, they've won 11 one-score games.
They beat the Packers by,

Speaker 1 whatever it was, like 16, week one. And then their four losses are 24-7 to Eagles, 40-3 to the Cowboys, 34-23 to Detroit, and 41-17 to the Packers.
When they lose, it's bad. And it gets ugly.
And

Speaker 1 we've talked about the Vikings so much on this podcast. It's just, it is what it is.
I think we're going to be right in the end.

Speaker 1 Doesn't take away from being an incredible season.

Speaker 1 And Kevin O'Connell also is very much alive for coach of the year because he took a team that didn't make the playoffs last year to an NFC North title.

Speaker 1 But yeah, they got absolutely smoked in this game. And I love whenever a guy talks shit and backs it up.
And Jair Alexander did exactly that, calling week one a fluke.

Speaker 1 Completely shut down Justin Jefferson. He had one catch for 15 yards.
He also

Speaker 1 lost his mind on the sideline. Did you see that when he tried to hit him with a helmet and ended up hitting the ref?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Justin Jefferson. Yeah, he took his helmet off, tried to hit him because he was so pissed off that Jerry Alexander tried to gritty.
He grittied on him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So he like broke his helmet.
You're allowed to do. You are.
That's the point.

Speaker 2 That is the double-edged sword of coming up with an awesome celebration is that people can do it right back to you in your face. Yeah.
And that usually happens.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, Jefferson took his helmet off, tried to smash it on him and just missed. Hit the ref in the back.
That was tough.

Speaker 2 Shout out to Vikings fans out there because there's one guy on Reddit. Hank sent this to the group chat.
Yeah. I love this theory.

Speaker 2 There's a Vikings fan on Reddit that's suggesting that the Packers overwatered the middle of the field. That would only affect the Vikings players to slow down the Vikings, but not the Packers.

Speaker 2 Wait, they play on the same field? They play on the same field, but Big Cat, you don't understand.

Speaker 2 It was covered in water and slopping wet, and Green Bay hasn't received any precipitation since December 23rd. Wow.

Speaker 2 So this guy, Glass Cherry 425, thinks that they hosed down the field to only their advantage because you can see it drying as the game went on.

Speaker 2 And Jaire knew that he only had to guard the outside because Justin Jefferson wouldn't cut across the middle of the field.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it's completely tilted, NFL rigged. At maximum, it was borderline cheating, according to this guy.
It's dirty, dirty move by the Packers, according to Glass Cherry.

Speaker 2 They had time to prepare their tactics. He wants answers for why the field was slopping wet.

Speaker 2 Okay. I have a theory theory on why.
Why? I think that they have a sprinkler system installed probably in Bay. And I think that the system,

Speaker 2 it sprayed water on the grass.

Speaker 1 Honestly, if they did do this, that's like an incredible move.

Speaker 2 It's classic Packers.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's just...

Speaker 1 I have no problem with it.

Speaker 1 If you're like, hey,

Speaker 1 we're going to make it slower for ourselves, too. Yeah.
And hope this just affects them more than it affects us,

Speaker 1 that kind of rocks.

Speaker 2 Well, so what I'm hearing here is there was no precipitation since December 23rd. Right.
And And it's a grass field, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 What does grass need to grow?

Speaker 2 Water.

Speaker 2 They were probably watering their field to make the grass grow.

Speaker 1 That is true.

Speaker 2 And trust me, it could go way deeper than that, but that's my general take on it.

Speaker 1 Wow. Okay, so a legal game.
Packers didn't actually win.

Speaker 2 You could make that argument.

Speaker 1 I can't believe the Packers are going to do this again. It's so...

Speaker 2 It's so fucked up. They're going to lose in the first round because...

Speaker 1 What? Depends on who they play.

Speaker 2 Well, they're probably going to play against the 49ers.

Speaker 1 I know, but what if they play the Vikings?

Speaker 2 But imagine how satisfying it's going to be when the 49ers.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no.

Speaker 1 If they play the Niners,

Speaker 1 that's going to be a great game.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be all locked in for that game. But if they somehow draw the Vikings,

Speaker 1 that's going to bother me to no end because

Speaker 1 then they'd go play the Cowboys, the one seed, and

Speaker 1 they could beat the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 The one seed. The one seed, yeah, homefield throughout.
Right.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, Mike McCarthy is going to be on all sorts of tilt plan against his former team.

Speaker 1 Exactly. They beat the Cowboys already this year.

Speaker 1 I know that they'll lose the Niners, but

Speaker 1 even them being in scares me a little bit.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 they're going to play the game in Santa Clara. It's going to be Aaron Rodgers, basically a home game for Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Hopefully a night game.

Speaker 2 He's probably going to have all his family.

Speaker 2 He might have some friends that come out to the game.

Speaker 1 This is going to suck.

Speaker 1 They're going to go on a run.

Speaker 2 God damn it.

Speaker 2 I think we're good. I think we're in the clear.

Speaker 2 He is doing the thing where he knew that they were going to win this game before.

Speaker 1 And he knows he's going to beat the Lions when he said it the other week when he was like, oh, yeah, not all of them are above 500. Talking about the Lions.

Speaker 1 All right, fine. Fuck it.

Speaker 1 I'm just nervous. Everyone, Packers fans know I'm nervous.
This is going to, because you just never know. You just fucking never know.

Speaker 1 Although this guy's won the same amount of NFC championship games as Rex Grossman, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 So it'll be fine. It will all work out.
It'll be fine. Right? It'll be good.
Right, Max?

Speaker 2 Fine.

Speaker 1 Hank just devilish grin knowing that

Speaker 1 my pain is about to come.

Speaker 2 If you're a Vikings fan, you have this as a spin zone. This was from C Hug D's Nuts.
Okay. He tweeted this at me.
He's a reliable source, I think. A Vikings fan, or Vikings loss eliminated the Saints.

Speaker 2 The Vikings

Speaker 2 could have done this on purpose as retribution for the 2010 bounty gate. Oh, so you have your revenge.
There it is. So congratulations, Vikings.
Way to go.

Speaker 1 You're Lions long.

Speaker 1 I'm also rooting for Jared.

Speaker 1 Your pain is my pain. All right, yeah.
Lions have to win.

Speaker 1 The world wants the Lions in the playoffs. They don't want the Packers.

Speaker 2 We do.

Speaker 2 I gave up everything to get the Lions in. God damn it.

Speaker 1 Detroit Don. We might have to fly him out for the stream.
Imagine that.

Speaker 1 Super fan just going crazy on the stream.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I might have to make a phone call about that. That would be intense.
All right, last game, Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 2 I think we should fly Commander Dale from Detroit Urban Survival Training out.

Speaker 3 Can we do background checks on all these super fans just before?

Speaker 2 Yeah, because there's no cycle.

Speaker 1 We didn't do a background check on you.

Speaker 1 Billy, if we

Speaker 1 do a background check, background check, everyone.

Speaker 2 But everyone that worked here, half the office would be on employees.

Speaker 1 That's a Pandora's box you do not want to open.

Speaker 2 Come on, Billy. Use your head.

Speaker 1 All right, last game, Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 1 Steelers, 16. Ravens, 13.

Speaker 1 That was an awesome game. We watched the whole second half.

Speaker 1 Kenny Pickett, he's a guy.

Speaker 1 That drive was fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 It was guy material.

Speaker 1 It really was. And he was making all the throws.
And

Speaker 1 Najee Harris looked awesome. TJ Watt, the Steelers, somehow, Mike Tomlin, coach of the year.
He just never fucking goes under 500. And they might get to the playoffs.
Like, it's not crazy.

Speaker 1 The Bills beat the Patriots. The Jets beat the Dolphins.
The Steelers win week 18. The Steelers are in the fucking playoffs.

Speaker 2 Everything is falling into line for them. They're going to end up 9-8.
They're going to get to the playoffs. And this was a good thing, I think, for Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 2 If he's able to, like, you could make the argument for some other teams that getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round is not good.

Speaker 2 Like, Hank is probably not looking forward to watching his Patriots lose in the first round.

Speaker 2 But in this case, if it's a rookie quarterback, Kenny Pickett, he had his moments where he looked shaky, where people were saying, okay, we need to be starting Mitch Trubisky instead of Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 2 I think this is great for Kenny.

Speaker 2 Like that second half that he had today, there were some bad parts, but I think he learned just like, just throw the ball to either Pickens or Fryermuth. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then you'll probably be able to to figure out from there. And your defense is good enough where if you scored 19 points, you're probably going to win most of the games that you're in.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's play a little whose line is it anyway for these three games for the AFC playoffs.
So, Patriots at Bills.

Speaker 2 I'm going to say Bills by

Speaker 1 eight.

Speaker 1 I was going to say six and a half. Eight and a half.
That could change, obviously, because they're playing against the Bengals on Monday night football. Jets at Dolphins.

Speaker 2 Who's starting for the Dolphins?

Speaker 1 Not Tua.

Speaker 2 Not Teddy, right?

Speaker 1 Skylar.

Speaker 2 Is it going to be Skylar?

Speaker 1 Jets minus one and a half.

Speaker 2 Jets minus three.

Speaker 1 Jets plus three. Ooh.
Whoa. So maybe they think Tua might start.

Speaker 2 That's that New York media. That is.
Hayden on the Jets.

Speaker 1 Could start, maybe.

Speaker 1 And then the last one we have is where's the Steelers game? They might not have posted it because they just won. Yeah, they don't have it.
So the Steelers play the Browns, correct?

Speaker 1 Is that in Pittsburgh? Yes, it is. Man, I'm rooting for the Steelerspace playoffs.
That would be fun for Kenny. He's our guy.
He is our guy. And Hank, you are too, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 It's going to be, I'm very excited for week 18. I know that, like,

Speaker 1 most of the playoff seeds have been clinched, but the fact that we have this many games that are going to mean something is going to be pretty awesome. Yeah, it is great.
It is great. I love football.

Speaker 1 I love football. I love football.

Speaker 2 And football gets better every year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Jake, you want to tell us real quick who's playing on Saturday? Yeah, so we have the double flex Saturday.

Speaker 1 It's going to be Chiefs, Raiders, and the AFC South title, Jags, Titans, which means my flex of the year with your assists.

Speaker 1 Looking like 50-50 because it looks like it's going to be Lions Packers or Ravens-Bengals. Right, okay.
Ravens, Bengals, or Lions, Packers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Bengals do win the NFC or say AFC North with a win on Monday Night Football. Right, so if they win, I think we're in the clear.
This game is going to rule so hard. Yeah, I can't wait.

Speaker 1 It's the most wins in a combined Monday Night Football game since 1997.

Speaker 2 That's pretty much ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 so all the Sunday games are TBD. I think they're going to make all the relevant games at four.
Yeah. So one o'clock's late is probably pretty weak.
It's going to be a long night for us. But

Speaker 2 that's fine.

Speaker 2 I can do it. That's why we train all season.

Speaker 1 Also, we won't have to talk about any of the one o'clock. Right.
It's going to be a late start. That's fine.

Speaker 1 I welcome this.

Speaker 2 I welcome a challenge.

Speaker 1 But I'm going to bet all the one o'clock games just so we're clear. I also have a basketball game at two, so it works out.
Oh, okay. They probably did the schedule for you.
Exactly. Yeah, nice.

Speaker 2 Who are you calling?

Speaker 1 Manhattan against Niagara. Greg Paulis coming to town.
Oh, head coach. Nice.
Yeah. Okay.
Legend.

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Speaker 1 Okay, football guy of the week, Billy.

Speaker 3 So last week's winner in a big upset was the Wobbly Browns fan. I thought it was going to be Matthew Marvin, the guy doing the pass sets in the parking lot outside the I love Wobbly Browns fan.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he won.

Speaker 3 Okay. So now for this week's.

Speaker 2 They should paint him at midfield instead of the elf.

Speaker 1 I knew you said that last week. Did I? Yeah, it's a long football season.
I think they should.

Speaker 3 Maybe he is an elf.

Speaker 2 I repeat it because it's a fact.

Speaker 3 Our first nominee is Blaine Gabbert, quarterback for the Buccaneers. He apparently, after a helicopter crash, hopped on a ski-doo and rescued some of the guys who were almost drowning.

Speaker 1 That rocks.

Speaker 1 I love Blank Abbott.

Speaker 2 Holy shit. He is a real American hero.

Speaker 1 What a badass.

Speaker 3 Superhero moves.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 2 That's great vibes for the Bucs. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, that's an all-time backup quarterback move right here.

Speaker 1 Big-time karma points. Plan of the year.
Yeah. Plane of the year.

Speaker 3 Our second nominee is Daniel Jones. So Coach Dable said he had Daniel Jones break down the team, and when he did, he gave everyone an extra day off, something he didn't give permission for first.

Speaker 3 So, Daniel Jones just commandeered the team and gave everyone an extra day off.

Speaker 2 I don't like that.

Speaker 2 Justin Herbert said you guys should be crying that you get that day off.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 Just put it in here. It was pretty hilarious, but I mean, he just literally alpha almost the whole organizational chain of command.

Speaker 2 Just could use a guy like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Hmm.

Speaker 3 Third nominee is Stacey Collins, Penn State Special Teams Coordinator, who a video aired of him, who basically he uses himself as a tackling dummy for his players during practice.

Speaker 3 And he's just getting laid out.

Speaker 2 And he's like 70, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's not that what he's doing is that physical and that crazy, but it's just, he's so, he's an older gentleman just getting totally wrecked.

Speaker 1 Human body craves contact. Exactly.

Speaker 3 And our last nominee is Steve Sarkeesian before his bowl game, Almo Bowl.

Speaker 1 Look,

Speaker 6 a lot of people didn't like this.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is a football guy.

Speaker 2 This was, he was amped up as fuck.

Speaker 3 If I saw my head coach ready to fight a guy right before the game.

Speaker 1 That's what happened. Yeah, Billy explained.

Speaker 3 So basically,

Speaker 3 he was in the tunnel. They're waiting.
They're getting amped up to run out into the field. There was a coordinator producer who was putting his hands on him.

Speaker 2 It was a field supervisor that was making sure the team didn't run.

Speaker 1 Barely brushed him.

Speaker 1 He gave him a cup. There was a cup there.

Speaker 3 It was enough content, but when you're in that zone, when you're hyped up before a game like that, getting pumped and anything...

Speaker 1 No, I don't know.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of emotions before a game.

Speaker 2 It gets pretty testy. That's pretty hype.

Speaker 3 That just shows his his mindset. It could have been anything to set him off like that.

Speaker 3 That just shows

Speaker 1 by double digits as a favorite.

Speaker 3 It was pretty ridiculous, but if I was a player and I saw my coach going nuts like that before a game, I'd be like, oh, yeah, we're going off. My coach is like testy as hell.
Like, let's go.

Speaker 2 There were a lot of rumors when Sark was up in Washington that he actually didn't mind a lot of strangers' hands at different places.

Speaker 1 I just saw it as more a guy, the way he yelled at him, I was like, that guy is just doing his job, and Sark is on a power trip. And I think his exact words are, don't ever fucking touch me again.

Speaker 2 So there were a couple elements to it. The first was just him putting his hand up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was okay.

Speaker 2 There was like a grab.

Speaker 1 So that's actually a fine grab.

Speaker 2 Listen, as someone who's milking him.

Speaker 1 But here's the thing, as someone who has breasts, and sometimes people will touch them. I don't love it, but at the end of the day, that's my fault.

Speaker 2 for having the breasts. Would you see how he was dressed?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's providing it.

Speaker 1 I was just saying,

Speaker 3 if i did some push-ups and got a hard body i wouldn't care that people grab my breasts i mean but it might be one of those things where he comes after up to the guy after the game i don't know if he did this and it was just like yo sorry it was just pre-game atmosphere like a lot of crazy shit happens before

Speaker 2 players get into fights like think about it sark doesn't strike me as a guy that's like making

Speaker 3 amends with no no but think like Before games, tons of stuff happens like that where people are on edge and it just shows like big game atmosphere.

Speaker 2 It wasn't really that big of a game. I guess it was a decent book.

Speaker 1 I think this also is one of those situations where you don't fully, and this is not your fault, but like you don't fully know Steve Sarkeesian. True.
In the stories and his career.

Speaker 2 He's kind of a psycho.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a big-time psycho.

Speaker 2 And there was, you could see like a switch flip in Sark

Speaker 2 where he went into like, if he had a knife in his hand, he would have stabbed the guy.

Speaker 1 It was rage.

Speaker 1 Hey, put him on the list. He's on the list.

Speaker 1 It is a football game.

Speaker 2 Let's let the people decide.

Speaker 3 Oh, and this last one, this is a throwback football guy of the week. The U.S.
Army. Basically, they, this was pretty cool.
Ran across this little photo of basically they had a prototype grenade.

Speaker 3 So, you know how the classic grenade is shorter baseball shape. So U.S.
soldiers, when they were throwing it, had a little relative familiarity.

Speaker 3 Basically, they also made a almost nerf football grenade. So it was just this prototype was just a nerf football with the giant bomb in the middle that U.S.

Speaker 3 soldiers were supposed to throw at like tanks.

Speaker 2 Essentially, as like a recruiting tool specifically for Billy. That's awesome.
To join the military.

Speaker 2 That'd be pretty sick.

Speaker 1 Imagine that. That would be sick.

Speaker 2 Imagine like we invade Iraq again in 10 years. Josh Allen put him on the front lines.
He just slings like a 70-yard bomb. Saddam Hussein's son catches it and explodes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Sick.
Yeah. All right.
Good job, Billy.

Speaker 2 Hell of fantasy.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 That's a good varied group of football guys.

Speaker 2 Wait, so was the last one just like the United States military?

Speaker 3 Well, that's a throwback. That's just like a a cool story.
Got it.

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Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Ready? For Who's Back of the Week? Yeah. I'll do college football for mine.

Speaker 2 Do you want to start with that?

Speaker 1 I was going to say we didn't talk about it before, but we should talk about the college football playoffs. Sure.

Speaker 1 They were awesome.

Speaker 2 I had a great time.

Speaker 1 It was.

Speaker 1 Michigan TCU was one of the most chaotic games I've ever watched.

Speaker 2 So was it the end of the third quarter slash start of the fourth quarter where we had 49 points in like four minutes of game time?

Speaker 1 It was like the 10-minute mark of the third quarter.

Speaker 1 All hell broke loose.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think if you go all the way back to the 10-minute mark, we're at like 57 points. It was at the end of that.
It was incredible.

Speaker 2 It was like as soon as one team, as soon as TCU felt like they were letting Michigan get back into it, there would be just a guy breaking through in the secondary for TCU, and you're up 14 points.

Speaker 1 It was also just, it was basically anytime Michigan decided they were going to blitz, TCU would score an ADR touchdown. Yeah.
Because they just couldn't cover everyone.

Speaker 1 And Michigan did get screwed in that first half call. I don't know what the fuck the review was.
He scored a touchdown. Yes.

Speaker 1 And then they fumbled on the goal line the next next play, but that was a touchdown.

Speaker 1 I still think that the, you know, TCU, the season they've had, and it felt like they could keep scoring if the game went on for another, you know, five hours, they just would have kept scoring. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm not going to say that Michigan should have won. I just am acknowledging the fact they got screwed, but holy fuck, TCU just made Michigan play a

Speaker 1 Big Twelve game. Yeah, and it was just back and forth.
Like, I think if they played that game 100 times,

Speaker 1 you wouldn't have that many points scored more than like three or four times.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and to match what Big Cat said at the end of the game, the very last play,

Speaker 2 Michigan was trying their hardest to extend the game, try to get a touchdown if they could. Their player got tackled.
It was pretty clearly a targeting penalty.

Speaker 2 The guy from TCU came in high, hit him in the back of the neck, back of the head, and the referees took a look at it.

Speaker 2 And this is one of those situations where common sense will tell you this game should not be called on this play. Like, Michigan Michigan was not going to win.
TCU should win this game.

Speaker 2 But by the letter of the law, it was definitely a targeting penalty that the refs clearly saw in the replay and just said,

Speaker 2 kind of don't want to call it right now because it doesn't make a difference.

Speaker 1 Also, Michigan just couldn't have had a worse end of the game, like trying to,

Speaker 1 trying to get something going for even a Hail Mary spot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was a bad last possession. And so I think it didn't really affect.

Speaker 2 Michigan wasn't going to win that game, but by the letter of the law, they should have gotten that targeting penalty.

Speaker 1 Yes, and they should have scored that first time. But TCU, I mean, there is a lot of college football fans who thought they didn't deserve to be in the college football playoff, which was crazy.

Speaker 1 I've been standing on the soapbox for them for the last month.

Speaker 1 They ran a gauntlet of a regular season undefeated. They lost by three

Speaker 1 in overtime in the Big 12 championship game. I know that they don't have the talent that some of these other teams have.
Like, if you look at the composite talent ranking, they are a true outlier.

Speaker 1 If they win the national title, it will be the least, you know, highly recruited or the least talented on just purely paper team by a large margin because it's just always like whoever has the top 10 recruits class will end up being the national champion.

Speaker 1 I don't count them out in this game against Georgia. They are fucking, whatever it is, they just, the hypnotoad, I don't know what it is.
They're just good. And Max Duggan's a fucking baller.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to bet on them.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They do seem like Team of Destiny vibes.

Speaker 2 They've got like tiger blood. They don't die ever.

Speaker 2 They've been pushed to the point of just collapse so many times this year. In this game,

Speaker 2 they got off to a lead, which was crazy. You never see them do that because they're usually falling behind like 10, 14 points early, and then they have to battle back and dig themselves out of a hole.

Speaker 1 There is something to be said about that, too, being tested like that, because when you get to the college football playoff, a lot of the teams are the bullies in their conference and they don't play more than one or two really tight games all year.

Speaker 1 TCU's played pretty much every game. I mean they kicked the shit out of,

Speaker 1 I want to say Oklahoma State and they, you know, they beat Texas pretty good, even though that was not a huge margin.

Speaker 1 Every other game has been just crazy and back and forth and digging themselves out of holes and late game heroics. So they're tested.

Speaker 2 Max Duggan is awesome. Yeah, he's awesome.
He's playing so well right now. They do seem like Team of Destiny.
They've got the Mike Leach thing going for him, too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, Sonny Dykes is like, that's his guy. I love Sonny Dykes, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a fun coach.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's a fun coach. I think they were

Speaker 2 like plus 900 at the start of the year or something like that.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 probably worse.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They were supposed to finish last or one of the worst teams in the Big 12 coming off a five and seven year.

Speaker 1 Gary Patterson has to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I guess I really did suck at the end there. Yeah.
Because you don't see teams do this. And it's the whole story's incredible.

Speaker 1 I'm very happy for TCU. Michigan, I don't know, like, that was, I think that still is the most, the winningest Michigan team of all time.
I don't think any Michigan team's gotten to 13 wins.

Speaker 1 So, and Harbaugh has them in a good spot, but you have to feel disappointed in the fact that you're an eight-point favorite going into the college football playoff playing incredible football, and then that game happens.

Speaker 1 Here's the craziest part: Michigan had three interceptions on, or sorry, was it three interceptions in a fumble? Did they have three interceptions? Or it was two interceptions in a fumble.

Speaker 1 Two interceptions in a fumble. So three turnovers.
How many turnovers did Michigan have in their other 13 games?

Speaker 1 10. Seven.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 1 That's how crazy that game was. Yeah.
Michigan played a certain style. They took care of the football.
They leaned on teams. They played great defense all year.

Speaker 1 And they get into this game and all hell broke loose. And you just knew that second half, like, there was nothing they could do to to bottle that up.

Speaker 1 You can't, you'd have to just restart the game another day to figure out how to stop what was happening in that game.

Speaker 2 There's something to be said for a team like that with TCU that will just play crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And they'll draw you into a fucked up fight and beat you with experience because they're like, we've played some of the most fucked up football games that you'll ever see.

Speaker 2 We know how to do this crazy shit.

Speaker 1 You don't. You are clearly.

Speaker 2 You're very good at playing formal football. We're just going to fuck with your brain and put you in scenarios that you never even dreamed of.

Speaker 1 Yes. and that one last thing about this game,

Speaker 1 Quentin Johnson, that

Speaker 1 touchdown that he had, that long touchdown he had, where he did the little like fake jog and caught the linebacker or cornerback was one of the coolest moves ever. You remember that play?

Speaker 2 Yeah, where it's like, who did that in the NFL recently?

Speaker 1 He hit him with a little slow step, fake jog, completely stopped in his tracks, and then boom, gone. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think somebody did that against Diggs, and it worked to perfection.

Speaker 1 It was such a cool move. And And then the other game was

Speaker 1 even better, I would say, because, you know, the Michigan TCU game was chaos, and you kind of, like, this, what are we even watching at this point?

Speaker 1 Ohio State, Georgia was just a great game of two teams that were so evenly matched.

Speaker 1 I mean, Ohio State, for as much shit as Ryan Day's gotten in the last month, and he deserved a lot of it because he got whooped by Michigan again, like, there's no moral victories, but he kind of answered that they can play on that level, and it's not, they might have, like, a Michigan problem, but they don't have a problem in terms of competing for national championships.

Speaker 1 C.J. Stroud, that was an all-time performance.

Speaker 2 This game had one of the craziest finishes when you take into account what was happening at the time in the world, where I think everyone was looking at the clock and being like, wait, am I going to be able to change over to a countdown channel to see when it's going to strike midnight and it's going to go to 2023?

Speaker 2 I bet you some couples broke up because of managing the television channel. There's definitely some big fights out there.

Speaker 1 Our guy, John Rich, was live tweeting. He took the remote at the party he was at, and he got caught by the host of the party with like two minutes left.
Oh, and was like getting away from the remote.

Speaker 1 Change the channel.

Speaker 2 Put that shit back on Anderson Cooper.

Speaker 1 Right. We got to watch what Ryan Seacrest is doing.
Oh, my. It was so had a great party.

Speaker 1 It was so funny watching Ryan, the live cut-in at halftime when Ryan Seacrest was like, here's who we got coming up.

Speaker 2 It's like, dude, no one cares. We don't care.

Speaker 1 This game rules.

Speaker 2 This is the timing of the ending was so crazy that they snapped the ball in 2022. and when they blew the final whistle after the kick missed, it was 2023.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Didn't they switch these games so that they weren't on New Year's Eve? Am I crazy? They did, but now, because it's Sunday, they ran up to Sunday. So NFL Sunday, they didn't want to compete with that.

Speaker 1 It's much better not on New Year's Eve. I agree.
Well, because there was probably a lot of people that just straight up had to miss the game that would have watched it otherwise.

Speaker 1 So I would agree if I was just not a loser who had no life and I was sitting at home anyway.

Speaker 1 I was just sitting there thinking, I remembered when it was on New Year's Eve and I did have a life, and I went to a New Year's Eve party.

Speaker 1 It was Alabama, Michigan State, and that was one of the worst college football playoff games we've ever watched. Yeah, like Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 And being like, fuck, like, we, I burned all this, like, hey, we got to be at a place with a TV for this. Like, fuck.
I think that's. I was just so happy that this game was played.

Speaker 2 That was like one of the lowest-rated bowl games ever, I think.

Speaker 1 That in Washington, Alabama. So it was, I mean, the whole game was incredible.
CJ Stroud was incredible. Stetson Bennett,

Speaker 1 I thought he got over this because it was almost identical to the national championship game where there were moments in the first half where you're like, does Stetson Bennett just, like, is this moment too big for him?

Speaker 1 He's fucking 25 years old. Like, what is going on right now?

Speaker 1 And then when they needed him the most in the fourth quarter, he had three touchdown drives and it was, he was like, oh, yeah, Stetson Bennett's.

Speaker 2 Pretty fucking good. He is actually very good.
And I think he's gotten faster over the years. Yeah.
He's moving around better in the past.

Speaker 1 Ugly Cryer.

Speaker 2 Very Ugly Cryer.

Speaker 1 Ugly Cryer after the game. And And we should say that Kirby Smart now goes down in history as the greatest timeout of all time.
The timeout for the fake punt,

Speaker 1 I do appreciate Ohio State fans still saying that it happened after

Speaker 1 the snap, even though

Speaker 1 they literally have a simulcast. ESPN does it on like 17 channels.
They had the simulcast where they're following the coaches, and then the game is in the right box.

Speaker 1 And you can see them call the timeout, I don't know, solid like five seconds before the snap.

Speaker 2 The ref was a little slow on it. It was a slow, but the graphics department was slow.

Speaker 1 It goes down. I mean, I tweeted last night, Chris Weber, worst timeout ever.

Speaker 1 Kirby Smart, that has to be the best timeout ever because the game probably ends there if Ohio State gets that first down on the fake punt. They then punt and they're able to come back.

Speaker 1 It was, I mean, it was a genius, genius play.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was an awesome end of that game.

Speaker 2 It was a life-affirming Saturday of college football.

Speaker 2 Some people were saying that the Alabama-Kansas State game was going to be the best game by far all day when it happened.

Speaker 1 Kentucky was pretty fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 Iowa, I want to just give a lot of respect to what Iowa does just as a state and as a football program.

Speaker 2 And anybody that spends their time watching Iowa football all year, like you deserve, you should be eligible for USAA

Speaker 2 if you sit down and you watch every single Iowa football snap because

Speaker 2 they find weird ways to win, but then you go back and you think about their season and you have no idea how they scored a single point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Kentucky's offense on

Speaker 1 Saturday, these are their drives. Punt, punt, punt, punt, pick six, punt, punt, pick six, punt, punt, punt, turnover on downs, punt, turnover on downs.

Speaker 2 Respect. I mean, respect to Iowa.
Wave to the kids.

Speaker 1 Wave to the kids. You knew when it was 14-0 that the game was over.
And yeah, but yeah, Bryce Young was incredible. He was dropping dimes.

Speaker 1 I don't want to say that, I mean, watching Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud, it's like, these guys are going to be really fucking good in the NFL.
And C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud using his legs, which he, it's insane that I don't know if Ryan Day told him or if his game plan, like Ryan Day called a perfect game, CJ Stroud does not run even though he's fast.

Speaker 1 And he, he was a woman. He should.
He should. He should start running a lot more.
Maybe they were just saving it for that moment. But I was, I walked away being like, Ohio State, like, again,

Speaker 1 you never are happy or you're never like happy after a loss like that, but at least all those questions that were happening in the last month after you got lost to Michigan, you kind of answered them all being like, yeah, we're still an elite program that's top five and can compete for national championships.

Speaker 2 I think what it comes down to, and you know more about the Big Ten than I do, so stop me if I'm wrong on this, but I feel like Michigan was designed specifically, they were re-engineered to beat Ohio State, to win that game.

Speaker 2 And then the rest of that division that they play in is kind of dog shit.

Speaker 2 So they're able to kind of they're able to use their superior recruiting and bigger people generally to just shove everybody around but they were built to beat Ohio State they ran into problems with TCU because TCU does not play a style of football that Michigan was designed to beat Ohio State is designed to beat everybody else except for Michigan yeah no Ohio State's definitely like the the way they've they've built their program up it's to compete for national titles the only thing I would say is that Michigan I wouldn't say Michigan was designed to win a national title too, just in a different way, because in the 1980s.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, but

Speaker 1 they've kind of, they're not like an Iowa or Wisconsin. Like they're, they're a real deal and they run a real offense.
It's just that game against TCU, I just, I throw my hand up.

Speaker 1 I'm like, you can't, it just got away. Like it got crazy.
You can't, if they play that game again, I, I, I think TCU can still win it, but I just,

Speaker 1 like I said, the turnovers, seven turnovers all year, and then they had three in one night.

Speaker 2 Things got out of hand.

Speaker 1 It just, so I wouldn't say, like, I wouldn't, it's not some existential crisis that Jim Harbaugh has to, like, figure out. Like, they just got beat, and it was a crazy game, and they were set up.

Speaker 1 I think they would have given Georgia a good game. You know, they obviously could beat Ohio State.
So I think Michigan's right there on the doorstep of winning a national title.

Speaker 1 It's just hard to win these college football playoff games.

Speaker 2 And now people are going to throw a bag at Harbaugh, too. Yeah.
Denver's batting their eyes at him.

Speaker 1 Colts.

Speaker 2 Colts are going to bat their eyes at him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It'll be interesting to see what happens. But yeah, great night in college football.
Also, just a great night to just shut up any losers who are like NIL and Transfer Portal.

Speaker 1 Transfer Portal, if you look, probably helps

Speaker 1 those teams and makes everyone a little bit more competitive.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, college football has us by the balls.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We're going to watch.

Speaker 2 I love it. You can put on New Year's Eve.
You can put it at literally at the stroke of midnight, and we're going to watch it now.

Speaker 1 There's something about college football.

Speaker 1 I know I love NFL, but like when college football is at its peak, I just, I think there's nothing, it's it's kind of borderline romantic like when I watch a great college football game like this is just it just feels like you're watching history.

Speaker 2 I think because there's more variables about what can happen.

Speaker 1 Well, it's the bands.

Speaker 1 It's the history. It's just everything.
It's something about college football. It's just I don't know.

Speaker 1 NFL is it's kind of like what troops told us when he said that you know NBA is a business, NFL is a business, football is a sport.

Speaker 1 Like there is a little bit of that with college football versus the other leagues where and people say, well, the NIL has made it a business but NFL is just everything everything you wouldn't get the TCU Michigan game in an NFL playoff game because everyone's just better and safeties don't make mistakes and guys don't run for 80 yard touchdowns I mean the the Kansas City Buffalo game was pretty close that was close but it was also that was remember that game was not that like fourth quarter yeah it was it happened it got away for like five minutes, but that was that was also one of the best, like, you could have that happen pretty much any night in a college football game.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank, you're who's back. Sorry.
That was a longer who's back. We had to talk about college football because it was awesome.
And who's back is Jumpsuit January? Let's go.

Speaker 1 You like it? It is nice. You guys kind of abandoned Jumpsuit January a few years ago.

Speaker 2 Wait, what do you mean by you guys?

Speaker 1 You two, both.

Speaker 2 I never abandoned Jumpsuit January.

Speaker 1 I said specifically, Jumpsuit January is about being comfortable, and sometimes I'm comfortable in jeans. I will wear jeans at some point this January.

Speaker 2 Hank, I have never abandoned Jumpsuit January.

Speaker 1 I've already had my phone fall out of my pocket like six times. There'll be a random Thursday.
I'll show up in jeans because I want to be comfortable and hold on to my wallet.

Speaker 2 I fucking ride or die for Jumpsuit January. It's my favorite.
It's birthday month, Hank.

Speaker 1 I love this. I love this shit.
I live this shit. I don't know if you were going to mention that.
It's birthday month.

Speaker 2 Happy birthday to us.

Speaker 1 It is birthday month.

Speaker 2 Oh, thank you for remembering.

Speaker 1 It's also January 6th.

Speaker 1 Big month for all of us.

Speaker 3 Well, it's my birthday.

Speaker 1 Is your birthday? Yeah, my birthday is in January.

Speaker 1 What's the date? 13th. I knew that.
It's birthday month. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't really like birthday month anymore. It's birthday month, baby.

Speaker 1 How old are you going to be? 24? Yeah, dude. Whoa,

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 1 24. That actually hurts you a little bit because I feel like the Billy Riders, I'm a Billy Ryder.
That's why you're here.

Speaker 1 Always like, he's a 22-year-old kid. Leave him alone.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I might have to grow up.

Speaker 1 No, don't do that, Billy. Don't do that, Billy.

Speaker 1 You won't be able to. Billy, you're not going to mind.
Yeah, Billy, grow up.

Speaker 3 Grow up.

Speaker 1 I might, yeah.

Speaker 2 But starting now, you're an adult.

Speaker 1 January 13th.

Speaker 2 Billy, you should have to wear a suit and a briefcase.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Pack your lunch, go to work every day.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 January 13th is Friday the 13th. I know.

Speaker 2 You're going to fuck up big time.

Speaker 1 And it's also going to be a Friday for Billy's birthday. Holy shit.
Billy, you're going to go out. Oh, so we won't see you for wild card weekend.
That's going to be St.

Speaker 2 Patrick's Day all over again.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, we're not doing anything on that Saturday, right?

Speaker 1 Well, it's Wild Card Weekend.

Speaker 1 Working. Yeah, there will be.
But that's okay. The Jets got eliminated from the playoffs.
Sorry to.

Speaker 2 We're not doing anything except for work. Yeah.
Sweet.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you'll be good.

Speaker 2 No, Hank, I love Jumpsuit January. I've never given up on it.
It's my favorite month of the year. It's so comfortable.

Speaker 1 I thought about doing suit January to kind of play with the suit joke, but that's all I'm doing.

Speaker 1 Jumpsuit January should do, you should wear whatever makes you comfortable. Jumpsuits make me comfortable.
I got too serious when everyone's like, oh, that's not a jumpsuit.

Speaker 1 Oh, like, it's a sweatshirt and sweatpant. So what?

Speaker 1 People took it too seriously. Just wear what makes you comfortable.
Yeah. I also have no full kit, so.
I'll get you some.

Speaker 2 I got you, bro.

Speaker 1 Don't worry about it. Remember when I got you guys jumpsuits for Christmas and they stayed in the studio for the whole year until Billy cleaned it and took them? Do you want to tell the whole story?

Speaker 1 Sure. You got me a 3XL and also the fucking detector when you leave Macy's was still attached to it.
Did you steal it? No.

Speaker 2 I think you stole it.

Speaker 1 You left that part out. I don't know that it was a 3XL.
It was so big. Billy still has it.

Speaker 1 I took the thing off it yeah those are and you gave me a gift that literally is like hey i stole this for you i did not steal it but it had it on it okay but you still didn't wear it i actually i would i would appreciate a stolen gift more than i would appreciate a gift that you bought for me if you steal something then you want to know that you put your heart into it i was swimming in it you basically like here fat ass take this stolen gift walk around with this so you can maybe go to jail you know what's the worst part when i took it off the thing some of the ink oh of course got on it die packets yeah so now everyone whenever i can't wear it out because people will think i stole it yeah sick gift wow you made us all look like criminals i'm gonna get you a jumpsuit january gift i'm excited okay i am too it's gonna be great it's gonna be the best jumpsuit you've ever worn i'm sure okay will you wear it up in the c-suite

Speaker 2 yeah if it comes in january there's a dress code on the third floor

Speaker 2 jeans friday there's not all right pfd um my who's back of the week i have two if that's okay yeah First is fantasy drama. Specifically, Jerry O'Connell's fantasy drama.
Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 So somehow, some way, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry has gotten our team into the finals of our league.

Speaker 1 Somehow, some way, he's a genius.

Speaker 2 He's a beast. So, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry,

Speaker 2 if we win this,

Speaker 2 we, as a group, get $25,000. Fuck yes.
Because

Speaker 2 it's a big money league. So we've told Jerry, and it all comes down to tonight.
So we have Joe Burrow on our team, and whoever it is we're playing, I forget who it is, what's the score has Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 We're down by 10.

Speaker 2 Oh. So we need Joe Burrow to out-duel Josh Allen on Monday football and get 10 more points.

Speaker 2 If that happens, we get 25 grand boys, and we're inviting Jerry O'Connell to New York, and we're going to take him out on a shopping spree.

Speaker 1 And also a football watching spree.

Speaker 1 We were talking about it last night in the group chat. I want

Speaker 1 Jerry, I want to get him a first-class ticket to New York to watch NFL NFL football with us. He can pick whichever Saturday, Sunday, whatever he wants to do.

Speaker 1 Sometime in the playoffs, just sit and watch football. I want to go.
Supermodel wife, not invited. No, ew, gross.

Speaker 2 I want to go do a Brewster's Millions things where we just go to a toy store and just Jerry just decides what kind of toys to buy until he spends 25 grand.

Speaker 1 We should actually just do that at like a Lid's or somewhere we can get jerseys. Oh, Lids would be a good job.
Just see how much jerseys you can get. Yeah.
Claire's? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I liked your hibachi idea. Oh, yeah, we should get.
Yeah, we're going to get a

Speaker 1 rent out a hibachi place.

Speaker 2 Oh, hibachi would be good.

Speaker 1 But just smarter. Imagine us all in just random NFL jerseys at a hibachi place, just the boys.

Speaker 2 That'd be great. Hot topic.

Speaker 2 How fast do you think that Jerry, would it be possible to spend $25,000 in a Spencer's gifts? Yes. I want to find out.

Speaker 1 You might have to legally buy one of the workers.

Speaker 2 That's fine. But yes.
We can make that happen. Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say yes. What do you say, Billy?

Speaker 3 What, Billy? I'm pretty sure they have life-sized dolls in there.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Life-sized dolls.

Speaker 3 You just end up with 25-sized dolls.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Life-sized dolls. All right, what's

Speaker 2 Andrew Tate?

Speaker 2 My other hot seat, gee, my other hot seat, or my who's back, is

Speaker 2 just being in really good shape because it's New Year's. Yep.
And we are officially starting to become a hotbod podcast right now.

Speaker 1 Hardbod.

Speaker 1 Join me, hardbod.

Speaker 2 I'm going Buns of Anarchy.

Speaker 1 So is that hotbot or hot bot? No, we're going to be hard bodies in 2023.

Speaker 2 So, Hank has the Peloton. I'm getting back on the Peloton.
All are welcome to join. Buns of Anarchy, we're riding tonight before Monday Night Football.

Speaker 2 We're going to ride at 7. So, we're going to post, follow Buns of Anarchy on Twitter.
So, we'll post the official schedule.

Speaker 2 But the bottom line is, this podcast is going to be fucking sexy as shit by the end of January. We're getting Super Bowl abs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to be hard body city.

Speaker 1 Max and I are about to fucking

Speaker 2 be beasts. My strategy.
Hank doesn't believe believe me. My strategy is just eat

Speaker 2 kava every day and then ride on a Peloton. That's about it.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep. No

Speaker 1 Sunday, no bad food. No.

Speaker 2 No. We're going healthy.

Speaker 1 This is a teamwork thing.

Speaker 2 Also, stay hydrated. Stay hydrated.
That's very important.

Speaker 1 What are we doing next Sunday? Salads?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what does that look like? Greek.

Speaker 1 Chirp and chicken.

Speaker 2 Just chicken.

Speaker 1 Chicken. Chicken.
Chicken.

Speaker 2 But it comes with a lot of pita bread. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nervous bird.

Speaker 1 We got to throw the pita bread out.

Speaker 3 That's probably why Carson Wentz is nervous in the pocket.

Speaker 1 He's just eating too much. He eats too much duck

Speaker 3 that just got shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's the last thing.

Speaker 3 It just has super.

Speaker 2 He's got wounded duck energy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Holy fuck. Yeah.
Whoa.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 3 My who's back is Poe, the Ravens mascot.

Speaker 2 He was never injured.

Speaker 1 No, he was.

Speaker 2 No, I saw what happened tonight.

Speaker 3 He hopped up.

Speaker 2 He hopped up. I don't think he was ever injured.
I think it was a long con.

Speaker 3 Well, he did get hurt the first time.

Speaker 2 I think that was all a show. I think it was all built up for this moment because they brought him out for this game,

Speaker 2 the highest energy game of the year. I just think that they rigged it.
I don't think that Poe. And they also introduced two other mascots this year, so it seemed like they were ready for it.

Speaker 2 That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 It was a great Kevin Nash bit.

Speaker 2 Stay woke.

Speaker 1 Jake finishes off. My who's back is John Cena.
He wrestled for the first time in more than a year. His streak is now every year.
He's had a match since 2000. Wow.
He beat the buzzer. And so it's

Speaker 2 interesting that right when he wrestled, Barbara Walters died.

Speaker 2 Let's not talk about that. I know.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 It seemed like we can joke around all we want and we can do our little wrestling thing, but let's have some respect for a dead journalist icon.

Speaker 1 Agreed.

Speaker 2 I thought it was in poor taste that John Cena continued to wrestle that. Agreed.

Speaker 1 Agreed.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's the show. Drum roll.

Speaker 1 This is flex of the air. Grand finale.
Here's Here's the grand finale. So here's what's at stake.
Everyone has followed along. We said Hank, he gets till

Speaker 1 the new year to win the lottery ball machine, which have you ever won it? No. Okay.
Just wanted to make sure

Speaker 1 the Jets are eliminated from the playoffs, and have you ever won this one? I have not. Okay.
I have never won.

Speaker 1 So if Hank wins this one,

Speaker 1 PFT and I owe him $5,000 combined.

Speaker 1 If he doesn't, he owes us $5,000. Now, we talked about it before.
I don't really want to take your money.

Speaker 2 I do want to take his money, but I'm not going to because it'll make me seem like a nice guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I just don't want to take his money because, listen, like, he's got golf to play. I don't, I'm not.
No, I'm down.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm not, I don't, I don't want to sound like I'm getting out of the bat. No, no, you are not.
You are not. I wanted specifically, you are not.

Speaker 1 I thought it would be interesting because you got to always evolve and figure out what's next.

Speaker 1 I threw out the idea that if you do not get this, Hank, I think that everyone in this room on Sundays, we put $20 into a jar, and that becomes the pot.

Speaker 1 And it just rolls over. So every week you put in $20.

Speaker 1 And if anyone hits it,

Speaker 1 they get the pot, and Hank has to match the pot. So then I would take your money.
That's fine. Are you okay with that? Yeah.
Because then it would be exciting if anyone else got it.

Speaker 1 They get the whole pot, and Hank matches up to $5,000. I'm fine with that.
I also think that's a good question.

Speaker 1 And also just the idea of you having to give Billy or Jake money would be so fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 Quick question. Is Is it 20 each?

Speaker 1 20 each. 20 each every week.
And Billy, I know

Speaker 2 the next question, you don't have to play, but you're not going to win. Right.

Speaker 1 You don't put it in. You can absolutely sit out.

Speaker 3 Can I Venmo?

Speaker 2 No. You're going to make this.

Speaker 1 That's cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash, cash. We actually have a safe.
I think memes got a safe. He's scared of cash.
That's good.

Speaker 1 Cash. Yeah.
So yes,

Speaker 1 he's going to try to throw it. So he doesn't have to deal with cash.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, Hank,

Speaker 2 what's your strategy? Because I think you have a strategy, which is it's hilarious that you have have a strategy for picking a number between one and a hundred.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and also we should just say when I hit the machine and the balls all flew out with Tom Fernelli right before break, they put them all back in.

Speaker 1 We couldn't find the three ball, which Hank has never guessed. Which is what Tom Fernelli guessed.

Speaker 1 Which was what Tom Fernelli guessed, which we Hank has never guessed, I don't think, because that's memes' number.

Speaker 1 So memes got screwed. Hank did not screw it.
Actually, Hank got, it was actually in his favor because it's less balls that he has to guess right. Sure.

Speaker 1 So you're even worse at this than what Whitewashing history.

Speaker 1 So just want that on the record so Hank can't say, oh, this is bullshit.

Speaker 2 What is your strategy, Hank?

Speaker 1 We sat down over Christmas. My family, it was a big topic of conversation.
My dad threw out this idea.

Speaker 1 You know, it's all you got left. Finn Diesel.
You got to roll with family. My sister had a child, her first child, on 10-13.
My brother's wife had a child on 11-23.

Speaker 1 23 plus 34, 57.

Speaker 1 57. 23 plus 34, 57.

Speaker 1 What's the 34? Wait,

Speaker 1 11 plus 20. 11, 23.

Speaker 1 So 10, 13 is 23. Yep.
1123 is 34.

Speaker 1 23 plus 34, 57.

Speaker 2 Honestly, I got to say, like, I'm a little scared. I think you're going to get it.
57 is a good number.

Speaker 1 Family.

Speaker 2 It's a good number. How many times has 57 hit?

Speaker 1 I've processed this, and I'm pretty confident in saying you're not going to get it because you fucking suck it. Three times.
It's so bad.

Speaker 2 It's a three-time champion. But it's Hank.
It's a good number.

Speaker 1 He can't get it right. He's so bad at this.

Speaker 2 57 is a good. The funny part is when Hank gets this right, which he will, because 57 is a fucking lock, everybody's going to say that this was totally set up.

Speaker 2 And since it's the last one, they're not ever going to believe that you got it right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But also good news because you're not going to get it right because you're Hank. But...
He has a 1 in 99 chance instead of 1 in 100. Yeah, that's true.
Better chance.

Speaker 2 All right. I'm going to go with 17.

Speaker 3 Quick crowdsource thing on that.

Speaker 3 If anyone looks back to any of the YouTubes and sees number three, we're trying to figure out when it may have been lost going through old ones. So just maybe a group afterwards.

Speaker 1 Quick crowdsource. Crowdsource.

Speaker 2 Billy, what percentage of your job do you think is crowdsourced?

Speaker 1 That you put out AI and crowdsource.

Speaker 3 APB for the number three ball.

Speaker 2 So your strategy, like instead of looking all around this room, was to ask

Speaker 2 all our listeners to watch every episode.

Speaker 3 Before break, Jake and I counted every single ball when they all flew out and we were looking for them. All right.

Speaker 1 Hake, what's your birthday again? June 13th? Yeah. Did I nail that?

Speaker 1 Is it right? Is that right, Jake? Can you find that for me? It is. I gotta scroll back to the day we forgot about the papadillas.
I'm not lying. It is.
I think you're lying.

Speaker 1 That's rude. Because it was a Sunday last year.
June 13th. Okay.
So

Speaker 1 19. June 13th.
19.

Speaker 1 6 plus 13.

Speaker 1 Equals 19. That's my

Speaker 2 family.

Speaker 1 I'm keeping it in the family.

Speaker 2 You don't want to include 1 plus 14. 18.
Or 1 plus 13 for Billy's birthday?

Speaker 1 You should do that. You should do that.

Speaker 2 I'll go 14 for Billy's birthday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Family.

Speaker 2 Family. Family.

Speaker 1 My family. What are you doing, Max? You want to do one of our birthdays, 31 or 32? Why not both?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll give you both.

Speaker 1 I'll take both. Yo, you want to do it?

Speaker 3 I'm going to do my favorite dates in January, which is both your birthdays, and January 6th, so it's 69.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. There we go.
Good job. Good job, Billy.
Oh, wait.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah. 130.

Speaker 2 It's 6, 31, 30. Yes, 30 plus 31 plus 6.
Yeah, got it.

Speaker 3 You got it. Nope, never mind.
Nope, that's 68.

Speaker 1 That's 66. Yeah, that's 68.
Is this the last one for our guy, Sebastian? It is. So, yeah, 72.
I'm rooting for Sebastian.

Speaker 1 This is his last time.

Speaker 1 You're not going to get it. Why are we? Why do you even...

Speaker 1 You know what's crazy? Hank thinks he's going to get it.

Speaker 2 Big cat, do you want to let Hank press the button? You want to press the button?

Speaker 1 No, Hank, you should. No.

Speaker 2 You should.

Speaker 1 I don't like the tricks you guys have been pulling.

Speaker 6 This is the opposite of this.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm doing 19. Let's just recap.
19.

Speaker 1 14. Billy, you have 68.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 I mean.

Speaker 3 Let's go 69.

Speaker 1 You just said our favorite, your favorite.

Speaker 6 You know, let's go 68.

Speaker 1 68.

Speaker 1 Jake? 18. Max.
Faster than 72. Max?

Speaker 1 31 and 32. Yeah, yeah, both.

Speaker 1 57. 57.
A lot of numbers.

Speaker 2 One of us is going to get for sure.

Speaker 1 Where's 31?

Speaker 3 Where's 31 and 32 come from?

Speaker 1 130, 131.

Speaker 1 Okay. So he got both.
All right.

Speaker 1 You really think you're going to get it? You're not going to get it.

Speaker 1 You're not going to get it. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Why are you nervous, Jake? You guys are.
I'm nervous.

Speaker 1 But you guys are losing your minds. Hank doesn't get this.
He will never get it. Dude.
He will next night on a

Speaker 1 54. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 You suck.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 You suck. Sorry.
You're never going to get it. Was it close? You are

Speaker 1 so bad at this.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Sixth time.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 I have one question for you. Why couldn't your sister have had that baby three days earlier?

Speaker 1 My one question was: have you ever thought about just picking the right number?

Speaker 1 That's my New Year's resolution. It's picking the right number, so you're 0 for 1.
Yep. All right, so we're starting the pot on Wednesday.
So everyone bring in 20 bucks. The pot will start at 120.

Speaker 1 So if someone hits it on Wednesday or Friday, they get $240.

Speaker 1 And then we just keep going up from there. And we keep going up from there.
And hopefully Hank has to give Max, Billy, or Jake.

Speaker 1 I'm also probably going to splash the pot huge. What do you mean? I feel like it's only right.
Put your money in it. Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's

Speaker 1 whatever you want to do.

Speaker 3 Can we make it five each?

Speaker 1 Billy, I'll cover you the first week.

Speaker 3 No, no, okay. I'll do 20 each.
I'll do 20 each.

Speaker 1 It's literally just the dinner that we buy on Sunday. Just come a little earlier.
You'll get lunch, too.

Speaker 2 You don't have to play.

Speaker 1 You don't have to play. That is a fact.
No, but I want to play. You don't have to play.
You can just guess.

Speaker 2 Broke boys need not apply.

Speaker 3 Actually, New Year's resolution, I'm not being a broke boy. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 My fingers are slick. Sorry.
Just count? No. Come on.
No. Come on.
No.

Speaker 1 69.

Speaker 2 Hank, I'll give you a thousand bucks if it's 57.

Speaker 1 66. 66.
Damn, I wanted him to be 57 so bad. He would have.
What would you have done?

Speaker 2 Rooftop.

Speaker 1 Thrown something.

Speaker 1 Rooftop. Hidey.
You'll never get it. You're never going to get it.

Speaker 2 Love you guys. My finger slipped against her.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 3 Pubic lights are more closely related to gorilla lights than human head lights.

Speaker 3 I'll become a feeler uncle.

Speaker 3 Shine.

Speaker 3 Take

Speaker 3 Take on me. Take

Speaker 3 me.

Speaker 3 Take on me.

Speaker 3 We lost the same.

Speaker 3 I won't say

Speaker 3 somewhat away.

Speaker 3 Slowly,

Speaker 3 the life is okay.

Speaker 3 Say after me.

Speaker 3 I so many tickets

Speaker 3 are in. Say after me.

Speaker 3 So ready to save it so we

Speaker 3 dream of me

Speaker 3 Things that we say

Speaker 3 every little life of just a flame of memory.

Speaker 3 You all think I've come to remember.

Speaker 3 Shiny

Speaker 3 all we could feel anyway.

Speaker 3 Shine away.

Speaker 3 All we could feel when you light, when you like, when you like

Speaker 3 me,

Speaker 3 take on me.

Speaker 3 Take

Speaker 3 me

Speaker 3 take on

Speaker 3 the day,

Speaker 3 take on me. I'll

Speaker 3 take on

Speaker 3 Take on me too

Speaker 3 on

Speaker 3 me

Speaker 3 Take on me too

Speaker 3 Take on me