Week 17 NFL Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Jets & Commanders Eliminated, Packers Stay Alive & College Football Playoffs

Week 17 NFL Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Jets & Commanders Eliminated, Packers Stay Alive & College Football Playoffs

January 02, 2023 2h 45m Explicit

Week 17 we start with the fastest 2 minutes then recap every game from Sunday. (00:00:00-00:09:10) Bucs/Panthers (00:09:10-00:25:04) Patriots/Dolphins (00:25:04-00:32:03) Commanders/Browns (00:32:03- 00:46:31) Giants/Colts (00:46:31-00:56:35) Saints/Colts (00:56:35-01:04:22) Chiefs/Broncos (01:04:22-01:13:10) Lions/Bears (01:13:10-01:18:28) Jaguars/Texans (01:18:28-01:22:06) Falcons/Cardinals (01:22:06-01:23:54) Chargers/Rams (01:23:54-01:30:53) Niners/Raiders (01:30:53-01:38:31) Seahawks/Jets (v 01:38:31-01:49:18) Packers/Vikings (01:49:18- 01:57:41) Ravens/Steelers (01:57:41-02:02:06) We then talk College Football Playoffs who's back and football guys of the week. (02:02:06-02:45:00)


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On today's Pardon My Take, week 17 of the NFL, we're going to start with fastest two minutes. We are going to talk about every single game.
There have been some eliminations that have taken place in this room. A lot of moving and shaking.
Teams, their seasons are officially over, and we're going to do who's back of the week, football guy of the week. Talk a little college football as well, the best college football playoffs we've ever seen, semifinals.
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And then a lot of work to be done

No place to hang out or wash in

And then I can't blame all on the sun

Oh no

We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue

And then we'll take it higher

Oh we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue. And then we'll take it higher.

Oh, we're gonna rock. Down to Electric Avenue.
It's Part of My Take, presented by Barstool Sports. Welcome to Part of My Take.
Today is Monday, January 2nd, week 17. let us be the first to wish you a happy new year.
And a blessed jumpsuit January to you, boo. We start in Tampa Bay, where Tom Wayne Brady looked like he wanted to choke a bitch as he continues to play who's on the offensive line anyway this year.
The Panthers had some life as painfully shy Smith asked Sam Darnold, pick me, pick me, hooking up for a touchdown. And the game turned when Mike Sean Evans went on a heater catching three touchdowns and saying, look at us, the Bucs' NFC South champs.

Who would have thought?

Well, literally everyone, but it wasn't a lot harder than we thought at the beginning of the season.

The Bucs are NFC South champs.

Bucs 30, Panthers 24.

Over to Kansas City, where Russell and Flo Wilson said it's all out here for a sip, as interim head coach Jerry Mossberg had him lining up in shotgun all afternoon. Pat Rick Riley Mahomes had the same amount of touchdowns as Kate Upton's boots with three.
The Chiefs are waiting for the playoffs as blink me up before you go girl. Bell scored a touchdown and George Michael Karloftis submitted another game with a sack.
The Chiefs, 24. The Broncos, Chiefs, 27.
The Broncos, 24. You almost slipped up there, bro.
Slipped up. We've never made.
You stay up until midnight. You have a couple glasses of champagne.
You have a little break, folks. We don't make mistakes on this show.
Up to Foxborough as Mac Efron goes back and forth between looking like a serial killer, taking out other players' knees, and looking really good like he did on Sunday. Teddy Bridge, what are those? Couldn't make up for Jason Sanders' ugly kicks and had to leave the game with a broken finger as Skyler Hunter S.
Thompson came into the game and helped the Dolphins' playoff chances go gonzo. Don't look now, Teej, but the Patriots have a shot at the playoffs in Week 18.
Patriots 23, Dolphins 21. We go down to D.C.
where, stop me if you've heard this before, but Deshaun Watson got penalized for illegal touching. But Washington, on the other hand, couldn't get their hands on Chum as he ran for 104 yards.

Amari Mini Cooper doesn't

miss his full-size Derek Carr

as he was able to score twice.

As for the Commanders, their playoff hopes

came and winced, as

Sean Taylor Heineke might as well have been

a statue on the sidelines with no

arms or legs. Don't let the Browns

get hot. Cleveland 24.

Washington

24. Browns

Thank you. statue on the sidelines with no arms or legs.
Don't let the Browns get hot. Cleveland, 24.
Washington, 24. Browns, 10.
That was my fault. That was on the teleprompter.
That was my teleprompter. Go fuck yourself, San Diego.
It's a new year for us, too. In the Meadowlands, they honored Lawrence Taylor pregame and during the game as Kayvon Thibodeau made it snow with Angels.
Nick Foles also contributed to the tribute of LT by completing exactly eight balls. Speaking of balls, Brian Dayball looks to be the coach of the year as he's made average guys like, I'm Richie James, bitch, cold-blooded, Giants 38, Colts 10.
And we head down to Atlanta for the game that had zero playoff implications as the Cardinals went to David Blau Blau Blower Wheels to try to rub up the Cardinals offense that's fallen off a cliff. Desmond Critter, I refuse to eat the bugs, boom, was sneaking around the Cardinals' backyard as J.J.
Wattweiler's got that dog in him still. Ho ho ho ho ho Cliff Kingsbury in a battle of the two most attractive coaches in the NFL.
The Falcons 20, the Cardinals are 19 points.

Up to the not-so-frozen tundra where the incessant ads are once again being stuffed down our throat

as a certain felonious insurance spokesman discount double-checked his way to a win jair alexander called the jukes that he received at the expense of justin jefferson in week one a fluke as he hit the gritty early and often in the wide receiver's face hey hey boo hey teach have you heard this have you seen this They put up a statue in Minnesota, and it's Kirk Nowitzki cousins throwing a perfect interception

to the Packers as he had three on the day.

I hate that motherfucker, boom.

Don't look now, but the Green Bay Packers are in a win-and-in scenario in Week 18 with

the Detroit Lions.

Huh?

Huh?

Huh?

Huh?

Huh? Oh, buried the Bears. Packers 41, Vikings 17.
Over to the desert where Jarrett Stardom or Siddam got the nod as Derek Carr has been parked in the repo lot. Good news for the quarterback.
Devontae, I'm walking here, was actually running free all Sunday after scoring two touchdowns. Darren, what you wanna

do? Wanna be a waller?

Shot caller, baller? Chipped

in on the scoring, and the Niners were

officially on the ropes, until Brock

Sturdy righted the ship, as

San Fran fans are Brock hard

now that they're Brock 40

with the one seed. Niners,

37, the... With the one seed.
Niners. 37.
The.

34.

Standing on the corner.

Jameis Winston down in Nola.

Such a fine sight to see.

It's the birds, my lord. Struggling to score, and now they might not be the top seed.
Come on, man, chew, get that dog in you, or else the Eagles going home, playoff weekend two. Saints go marching 20 20 to 10 and that was week 17 brought to you by our friends at chevy the chevy silverado it's a new year time to go get yourself into a chevy silverado the best truck ever created it is unstoppable it's the chevy silverado tell them PMT sent you when you get in your brand new Chevy Silverado brand brand new year brand new you Chevy Silverado learn more at Chevy.com okay week 17 in the books we uh actually we'll talk about Raven Steelers at the end because we're taping a little early so we can go watch the game with jersey jerry on the stream a lot of things happened a lot of things happened in this room we have we watched a shitload of football we're gonna talk about college football playoffs as well uh after all the games but let's get let's just get right into it i tried to order it in terms of uh playoff implications so talking about the games that actually meant something and then we'll get to uh the games that mean absolutely nothing shout out the cardinals and falcons i actually took zero notes and didn't watch a second of that game but let's start i have one note on that game uh big bucks 30 panthers 24 the tampa bay bucks have finally after like it was a long drawn out process it was a war of attrition someone had to win the NFC South they do it come from behind win the NFC South Tom Brady was throwing deep balls to Mike Evans the Bucs are your NFC South champs they are still a bad football team but they are in the playoffs and hosting a playoff game on on wildcard weekend.
So yeah, that's 14 straight playoff appearances for Tom Brady. Just crazy to think about.
Crazy. Insane.
And so if you're Tom Brady, banners fly forever. You won the division.
NFC South. It was all worth it.
All worth it. Everything that you've done in the last nine, 10 months, it worked out.
You won the division. I do.
I will say this was the happiest I think I've seen him in a very long time because not only did they win the division going to the playoffs their seed is set there's nothing like he can they the Bucs can rest basically everyone week 18 they should get Ryan Jensen back his center maybe they have him play but he looked happy I think because they won the NFC South and also it was the first time that their offense looked somewhat competent in forever, throwing deep balls to Mike Evans. He threw a 50-yard touchdown, a 61-yard touchdown.
Mike Evans had 207 yards. It was Tom Brady won the game, and it's been a lot of Tom Brady does enough to win a game, but the defense has to chip in, and they win like 14-13.
He won this game. Tom Brady tore it up today.
And we've been using the F word a lot for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this year. Not frauds.
Not frauds. We never called them frauds.
The other F word, flawed. We've been calling them flawed all year.
Right? But it looks like the Bucs have actually looked at what's made them flawed and then realized there are certain things that we can do good yeah let's lean into those things in a way like by knowing how bad they can be they're going to the playoffs being like okay we've learned a lot of lessons this year and as if it turns out that still throwing deep balls to mike evans yeah uh it works because he's i think he was i think he was like a little dinged up earlier in the year when he had some hamstring issues.

He was a little bit slow.

But now it's like he does look like the Mike Evans of three years ago.

By the way, Mike Evans, just as a side note,

I think that everyone probably doesn't realize just how good Mike Evans is because there were a lot of years it was with Jameis and not great Bucs teams.

And then Tom Brady comes and it's like, well, it's Tom Brady.

Mike Evans now is second all time. Only one other person is, or only two other people have done this.
Tim Brown is tied with Mike Evans nine consecutive 1,000-yard receiving years. The only person ahead of him is Jerry Rice with 11 years.
Mike Evans is a Hall of Famer, which is crazy because doesn't it feel like he's had a very good career but then when you stop and you look at it you're like holy shit he's he's got 83 touchdowns uh or sorry 81 touchdowns in his career if he gets to 100 he'll be top 10 all time in touchdowns everyone in the top 15 is in the hall of fame yeah he's definitely every single year he's been in the NFL. He's been in the NFL nine years.
Every year he's gotten over 1,000 yards, and he's not even 30 yet. I feel like he's also a pretty overlooked piece of the whole Johnny Manziel situation.
Yeah. The Johnny football magic that happened in College Station, that had a lot to do with him just throwing the ball up in the air and Mike Evans being able to catch it.
But he is one of those players that I think that if you ask just any regular football fan, like, is he a Hall of Famer? They would be like, I never really thought of that. Maybe.
But if he has even two more years at this standard, which again, he's not even turned 30 yet. He's like a no-doubter Hall of Famer.
Yeah. I mean, his only weakness is getting into fights with CeeDee Deuce.
Yes. That's about it.
Exactly. So in the playoffs, I mean, if the Eagles, he's on the birds, right? He is.
Yeah, is he hurt? He is currently hurt. They need to get him healthy for the playoffs in case you play against the Bucs.
Probably not coming back. Because that's the only way that they can take Mike Evans out.
I have something I want to admit because we are in the trust tree. I think I'm now starting to believe in the Bucs again.
Like, I can actually see it. I've actually i've actually as bad as i've been with the bucks to begin the year i've actually been very right about them in the last like month and a half where i i got off of them for a little bit there and then i went back on them this week i now think that like the path is there the cowboys who tom brady owns they're getting ryan jensen being Tristan Wirth's coming back.
Ryan Jensen set

to come back. Like that's been their biggest problem

is their offensive line has given him no time.

Their defense has always been pretty good.

I'm starting to think that

this might be a Bucs run

again. So this is what's going to happen.
It's going

to be Bucs-Cowboys first

round. Cowboys are going to lose

somehow to Tom Brady who's never lost to the Cowboys

before. Yeah, Tom Brady has never lost to the Cowboys before.
The Bucs will beat Dallas in the first round. Cowboys are going to lose somehow to Tom Brady, who has never lost to the Cowboys before.
Yeah, Tom Brady has never lost to the Cowboys before. The Bucs will beat Dallas in the first round.
McCarthy fired Sean Payton, head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I'm just letting you know.
Read the news before it's the news. Cowboys are getting the one.
Yeah, you've been talking about this because your anger for Philadelphia just never leaves your brain. No, I just feel it.
You came in today and you're like, Cowboys getting one.

Cowboys getting one.

Hank, here's the thing.

The Giants aren't going to play their starters next week.

Giants aren't going to play anyone.

So it's going to be Philadelphia.

Philadelphia's going to beat them.

So whatever the Cowboys do, it doesn't really matter.

Cowboys are getting the one, he's saying.

Fact or fiction.

Fact or fiction, the Eagles are going to beat the Giants next week, Hank.

Fiction.

All right, so put the Giants in the hungry dog.

Fine.

Okay.

Done.

Then the Eagles will definitely win.

Done.

Giants might be favored.

I don't think so. You never know.
Let's look. Let's look.
Whose line is it anyway? It's in Philadelphia, correct, Max? Yes. Yeah, Hank's the fucking worst.
He's been on his troll shit today. He came in.
He's like, I bet against PFT talking about the Cowboys. Was right.
And then he's like, I bet on the Bears. He's like, they're trying to lose.
They're trying to lose. He's trying to be friends.
Whose line is it anyway? It's not out yet? Exactly. You never know.
Dr. Fiction and the Giants could be favorites.
No. No.
Fiction. Fiction.
Absolute fiction. They cannot be.
They will not be. I'll put my life on it.
I'll put my life on it. You want to put your life on it? No.
Fiction. Fiction.
They can't be. Absolute fiction.
They cannot be. They will not be.
I bet my life on it. I bet my life.
Yeah. I was going to say.
I'll put my life on it. You want to put your life on it? No.
When the line comes out, if the Eagles are underdogs, I will go up to the top of this building and jump off. Okay.
There we go. They have to be, yeah.
Line coming out, underdogs. There's just no life.
I've never bet my life on anything before this is going to happen. I'm jumping with you.
I'll jump on you. You know what? You get on my back, we'll do it as like a backpack.
Okay, got it. And maybe if I turn around quick enough, you'll brace the ball and I'll survive.
I don't think that's how it's going to work. I think if one of us is going to be the mattress, Billy's doing a fist pump right now.
What? If you jump off a bridge and throw a rock, like if you throw a rock underneath,, like, you let a rock go first, because they always say hitting the water is what hurts. But if you just drop a big rock, like, before you, that would break the pressure.
So, when you're building the Brooklyn Bridge, you should throw your hammer down if you fell off. Ah.
If you're one of the iron workers. But since Big Cat weighs significantly more than me, for now, for now, for now.
Hard body season. He's smirking.
He's going to drop faster than me, right? Hard body season. So I can just land on him.
Or do I just spread out and I have more? What's the line? What's the line? The line is 14. Suck my dick, Hank.
You fucking idiot. Hank, go jump off the building.
God damn it. Cowboys one seed, right? Cowboys one seed.
Anything can happen. He's just on his troll shit.
That is true. The Bucs, I am now believing in the Bucs.
I don't know how. I don't know why.
What has changed? But I think it was just the deep balls. The Bucs offense, I've watched every single Bucs game with Stephen Shea and sitting in that gambling cave, and they all go the same way where they just get like they'll get first and goal on the five and they'll gain two yards and then try to kick a field goal.
This was the first time they were actually throwing it deep and they actually look like the Bucs the first time they look like the Bucs week one when they pounded the Cowboys. The only issue I have is that Todd Bowles is going to at some point.
He's such an idiot. Yeah.
He's going to turn back to Todd Bowles. Byron left, which probably cost himself a lot of money this year.
Oh, yeah. By really showing people how bad that he was.
Because before this, going into the season, he was the next hot name for a head coach. Yeah.
Now it's like, uh-oh, we found out too much about you. What was that? Todd Bowles had, even in a win, I think it was actually, it was sometime in the first half, he had his kicker try like a 55-yarderer he does not have even close to that type of leg and just flipped the field for the Panthers who I'm happy now that the Panthers can officially be my dark horse team next year that didn't make the playoffs that's going to make the playoffs because they are like they're way overmatched by the Bucs from a pure talent standpoint they were in this this game.
Sam Darnold looked pretty good. They can now potentially – I'm just going to start like doing fake – I've been doing fake trades in my head for like the last three weeks.
They could potentially trade up to the first or second pick, second pick with the Bears, get Bryce Young or C.J. Stroud.
They have pieces. Like they get a coach.
Yeah. They're looking good.
That's going to be the big question is what coach they get. Or do they try Sam Darnold again next year? Yeah, they could try Sam Darnold.
He was good. You probably have the luxury to have, if you do get C.J.
Stroud or Bryce Young, you can probably sit him for a year. Yeah.
Because Sam Darnold looked pretty good today. And he's faster.
I don't know what it is about Sam Darnold in these last, like, three weeks. He actually looks like a mobile quarterback.
Yeah. And, man, the New York Jets have got to be just kicking themselves man if they still had sam donald they'd probably be in the playoffs he's a difference maker yep yeah they they actually had like the perfect uh season to set up the next season where they were in every game they were in they could have gone won the nfc south as of this morning yeah and they still because the nfc south so bad, they're going to have a top 10 pick.
It's like you couldn't script it better. And they traded Christian McCaffrey for more picks.
Right. You couldn't script it better for them to be a team that goes from out of the playoffs to in the playoffs in one year.
So what do you do if you're Tepper, if you're the owner? Do you make Steve Wilks actually interview to be the head coach? I think so. Or does he just put on the tape? I don't know were him that'd be a power move just walk in set up a projector yeah play and leave yeah what'd you do here yeah why'd you do this why didn't you run the ball against the Steelers no I'd just be like look look what I did oh you're saying Steve Wilks Steve Wilks comes in press play here's what I did while I was coach yeah he did I mean he brought them back from being one of the biggest jokes in the league when matt rule was still there i've got a theory it's jumping ahead a little bit to the commanders game okay i think rivera wants to go back to north carolina will they have them probably they'd probably take him in like a front office position i mean they still do love them because i've never seen it before in my entire life where a coach gets a press conference after they get fired.

Yeah.

Remember?

He went and he was like, we did a lot of things here. We won the NFC.
His key still works. He quoted winning the NFC South, like, whatever, three years in a row.
One of those years they won it at 7-9. Yeah.
Flags fly forever. His key still works.
They'll probably have him in whenever. He's probably still got his office up there.
Last thing I have is Tom Brady now joins the club of 40-year-olds with 400 yards passing in a game. The club is six members.
It's Warren Moon, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, and Tom Brady. So he's now got it four times.
He's the only one to do it four times. Yeah, he's the only one to do it.
Thank you to Stathol for that second. Tom Brady could probably also for that tom brady could probably also do it when he's 50 if i were tom brady you know what i'd do i'd retire whenever i want to retire which i mean that's never it could be never it could be next year and then i'd come back for one last last season after i turned 50 just get your body like completely totally healed you do nothing but like but yoga and tb12 you eat all the avocados that you want.

No nightshades.

You're in perfect condition.

You come back when you're 50 years old just to prove that you can still play in the NFL.

I don't think there's any chance he's retiring.

I think this type of game where he won the NFC South, going back to the playoffs,

threw the bombs, that's like when you golf and on the 18th hole, you just crush a drive. Yeah.
Man, that was fun. You were all ready to quit golf.
Yeah, right. You're going to save yourself thousands of dollars a year.
I don't think he's retiring either because he's coming back and going to Vegas. Yeah, there's a lot of fanfic out there.
Hank, so are you all in on the Bucs making a, let's say, NFC Championship game would be them punching above what they've been this year and a pretty crazy run. Because I don't think anyone expects them to go all the way to the NFC Championship game.
Because they just haven't been good all year. Yeah, I think they could beat the Eagles.
I think they could beat rookie Brock Purdy. I could see them winning that game.
They got killed by them. It's right.
Think about it, Hank. Tom Brady against Brock Purdy.
Don't overthink it. Championship DVD.
Game one. The 49ers.
Oh, my God. They win by 100.
Tom Brady looks old, looks old. Wait, so who can't they beat? Playoffs come.
Who wins? Who can't they beat? Dallas at home would be tough, but I think they could do it. That's the one team that they should be able to beat.
Wait, when Dallas gets the one seed. Yep.
Got it. They could beat the Vikings.
So, yeah, I'm all in. So, just if Dallas gets the one seed, which you've declared has happened.
Yep. That would be their toughest matchup.
Dallas is the one seed. Fanfic.
On our side of the table, not yours. Right.
Yeah. I would actually be afraid of the Lions if I was the Bucs.
Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it would be.
The Lions, they will outscore the Buccaneers. Also, the Packers, maybe.
Is Jalen Hurts coming back? Yeah, he is. You're on your troll shit today.
I'm genuinely curious. Let's go to the next game.
Why didn't he play today? I don't think LeFleur wants to face Tom Brady to get into the playoffs. No, that's true.
I think he's so deep inside the vortex, the math part of his brain, he'll just psych himself out. LeFleur goes up to Todd Bowles before, and he's like, let's just not do any field goals.
Let's just keep this on the sevens. Yeah, come on.
The whole game. Tell you what, kickers aren't really part of the game, right? Let's settle this like men.
I don't want to be tempted to just start going for field goals. All right, next up, Patriots 23, Dolphins 21.

Can I just real quick go back?

If he does play, if the Battle of the Bays happens again and LaFleur has to coach against Tampa Bay,

there's definitely a chance that at some point in that game,

Matt LaFleur will think about us.

Oh, I would say the whole week he'll be thinking about us.

He'll have a decision decision and our stupid faces will

pop into his head yeah and be like wait do i am i just choosing this to spite those assholes if if now this is a very big if because the packers would have to get into the playoffs and the seating really doesn't work out it would i think they'd only meet in the nfc championship game but if that did happen

I will

PFT and I both will pay

an AWL

we'll buy four seats in direct line of matt lafleur across the field and you can bring you'll have to bring big cardboard cutouts of us and just hold it up on any field goal decision yep so he can just see our faces yep and hank's gonna match to match. And Hank will match.
Yep. Game time.
Okay. Next up, Patriots 23, Dolphins 21.
Hank doesn't want the Patriots to win. He doesn't want them to go to the playoffs.
But they are now in a win and get in situation. The Dolphins season has completely fallen apart.
Five straight losses. Teddy Bridgewater broke his finger on an interception, I think Skylar Thompson, it's just all falling apart.
And now the Patriots somehow, this is what I was alluding to when I said, let's save for the show. I turned to PFT earlier today and I was like, it's so fucked up that this season looks so different.
And now we're sitting here and, uh, the dolphins could get eliminated. Theets have been eliminated.
The Bears were eliminated in fucking September. And the commanders got eliminated today.
And now Hank's just sitting here. Doesn't even want to be in the playoffs.
No, this sucks. And he's going to be in the playoffs.
This actually hurts. It hurts me.
I'm like, I'm watching Hank not even enjoy the fact that his team's going to make the playoffs. And over here, it's like, you should love this.
He's like, for what reason? It's like, we're his parents. Why? And we took Hank out to, like, little Hank comes out with us with his undeveloped palate, and we go out to a nice sushi dinner.
And Hank's like, ew, gross. I don't want this stuff.
They have chicken fingers? Oh, yeah. Mac and cheese bites, please? Hank, this is gourmet shit that you're getting right now, okay? And you're just not even appreciating it.
He's like, what for? I don't want to go to the playoffs. Oh, you're going to make me go? He's on his phone.
It's like we're asking our son to go to grandparents' house. I don't want to go.
I want to play my video games. Can I go laser tag with my friends instead? You're such a shithead.
Yeah, I mean, none of that is false i will say this i will say this i did give up on the season after the raiders

game i've been i've been betting against them today i just bet the under and was

you know rooting against points and any action whatsoever i didn't care how the

game went but i will say this there is a winning

get in situation if the patriots beat the bills i'm all the way back in

if they lose to the bills but then end up in the playoffs because the dolphins

also just suck it's gonna be hard for me to really get it together that's Thank you. If the Patriots beat the Bills, I'm all the way back in.
If they lose to the Bills but then end up in the playoffs

because the Dolphins also just suck,

it's going to be hard for me to really get it together.

That's what I'm hoping for then.

I hope you guys back into the playoffs and you hate it.

You hate every second of watching it.

Because that would just be like we'll be playing the Chiefs-Bills.

We could beat the Bengals.

We could beat the Bengals.

No.

Maybe.

Bengals?

They're banged up. Do you remember what happened? How long ago was that? We beat them.
Yeah. Oh, no.
We lost them. We almost beat them.
They fumbled in the red zone for a chance to win. Yeah.
We basically beat them. Yeah, yeah.
You lost. You lost to the Bengals.
You lost that game. But we almost should have won.
Almost should have won. That's true.
But, again, I'm not going to sit here and pretend like they're going to make a run in the playoffs because Matt Patricia's the offensive coordinator and they're trash. Again, they won the game because they got a defensive and special-themed touchdown.
That's the recipe. And that's a hard recipe to repeat week after week.
If they don't get a defensive touchdown, they're not winning games. And the one part of Week 18 that's going to be very difficult is the bills will be playing for seeding uh they will be playing for like the even if they lose tomorrow night they still have an outside shot at the one seed because they beat the chiefs and if the bangles lost the raven like the the bills will be playing everyone because they want to get that one seed and even the two seed you get two home playoff games guaranteed if you get to that second round.
I will give Mac Jones credit. He played pretty well.
Yeah, that last drive was like a big boy drive by him. I think it was 89 yards, 11 plays.
He looked like, hey, I'm actually moving forward and not with the pissy face and trying to take out people to the knees.

So maybe you build off that.

A couple good deep balls.

Yeah.

Like, he deserves credit when he plays well,

and he played well in that last drive to win the game.

I do feel bad for Dolphins fans because you've been –

They're playing against Teddy Bridgewater and then whoever,

Skylar Thompson.

Yeah.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, the Dolphins have been snakebit.

It's not their fault.

Like, two of us started to develop, I think, concussion syndromes on Monday when they were watching film and he couldn't remember some of the plays so that's why were they watching McGruber again they're watching McGruber and he was like wait did he shoot already in the graveyard no he probably was watching McGruber was like I feel like I've seen this movie before but maybe not because I was really concussed the last time what it was is they were watching it and then Mike McDaniel looked over him over at him and was like, you're not laughing as hard as you did last time. What's up with that? You laughed at every scene.
He's like, yeah, I don't know, Coach. It's not as funny, I guess, when his wife dies.
But I do feel bad for Dolphins fans. They've had very bad luck at quarterback.
Spready Bridgewater did cover on the road, though. He did.
So he builds off that, which is nice. That's a fact.
Sorry, Hank. He covered your face.
And then, Jake, you still have the opportunity to come in. And what did you say? Eliminate? Well, the Jets are already eliminated.
So we can't eliminate them. But you can double eliminate them.
Yeah, you can double eliminate them. Yeah, I guess.
Because they can eliminate you. Yeah, that's true.
So you need to stave off the elimination. You got to double eliminate them.
This couch is a disgrace to football. Well, it's good that no one on this couch said at any point during this season, I feel bad for you guys, talking about our teams.
Thank God that didn't happen. That would be very embarrassing.
This game means more after what happened in early October at MetLife. The fingers.
The revenge finger game. He's doing it again.
Wait, don't say it that way. He's doing it.
He's doing it. The fingers.
Yeah, the Patriots defense is still very good. They score every single game, it feels like.
The game flipped on that pick six. Whenever they need a big play, it's like, all right, our defense just got to drop the touchdown play.
Right. That's the recipe for success.
Right. So you can win games like that.
Win them ugly. Yeah.
I hate you so much. You don't even like this.
So next weekend, week 18, are you rooting for them to win that game? Yes. Okay.
Am I expecting them to win that game? No. No.
But if they do win, I'll be – You're putting the vest back on? You'll see a new me. Are you putting the vest back on? Yes, playoff vest.
But I will not wear it if it's a back-end loss, lose by 20, and then the fucking Dolphins are a joke, so they lose too, and we'll get in. Yeah, so if you lose next week, get into the playoffs, and then in the first round, you're not even going to be rooting for the Patriots, it sounds like.
Unless it's against the Bengals. If we beat the Bills.
It's back on.

We got momentum.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

You're ready to go.

Get hot at the right time.

Right.

That would be getting hot at the right time.

So.

Being the Bills.

It's one or the other.

Okay.

Okay.

That's.

I was going to say that's fair, but it's not fair.

None of this is fair.

It's bullshit.

We're sitting here and you're not.

Everyone else just got eliminated today. It was literally elimination sunday so let's talk about the next game uh browns 24 commanders 10 because the packers won and this commander's loss the commanders have officially been eliminated from post-season participation carson wentz i feel bad p, because that sucked.
And I'll let you just take the floor because that sucked. Yeah, I've got a couple ideas of why Carson Wentz played.
I touched on him last week. But in my opinion, anybody that watches football knows that Carson Wentz sucks at playing football.
Anyone that watches football, sees Taylor Heineke play football, thinks, hey, this guy sucks sometimes and he's good sometimes. He's fun.
So which quarterback would you rather have? The quarterback that just is a big pile of stinking shit or the quarterback that sometimes has flowers growing out of that shit? I would take Taylor Heineke on that one. Taylor Heineke is fun.
His team loves him. You could tell.
Here's when I knew that we were fucked. Well, probably after Carson Wentz threw the first interception of the game in like the first 16 seconds.
But after that, I knew we were fucked because Chase Young, who's been the best cheerleader that we've had on the sidelines this year, gets fucking hyped for Taylor Heineke. He goes up behind Taylor Heineke.
He points at his jersey. He like slaps him in the face.
Like treats him like a dog that he loves, you know, like his like his favorite dog he sees Carson Wentz he walks out on the field and is telling Carson Wentz like hey please we need you believe in yourself right I want you to know that I need you to trust yourself pleading with he's begging him to believe in himself and at that point I was like okay this game's over Ron Rivera apparently didn't know that, uh, if the Packers beat the Vikings later on the day, that that would eliminate us from the playoffs. And that's why he chose to start Carson Wentz.
Um, I, if that's true, it's one of two things, either, either Ron Rivera is trying to get fired by saying he didn't know that, or, uh, he should be fired if he didn't know that. Yeah.
Those are really the only two options. And I think that he started Carson because my guess is Dan Snyder doesn't want to pay Taylor Heineke winning bonuses, and he's paying his favorite toy that they hand-selected this offseason 20-some million dollars per game and doesn't want to see him on the sidelines.
I honestly, so you're probably right, but I also think Riverboat Ron, the Riverboat gambler, because I had this happen to me this morning, and it's something that everyone has to go through, and people have gotten out of their system, not gotten out of their system. I still woke up this morning, I was like, Carson Wentz, there's still that dude in him.
And I took the over in this game, because I was like, he's going to ball out. I said he was going to ball out.
I think Ron Rivera just has that where he looked at it. He's like, I know what Taylor Heineke is.
We haven't won in three games straight. We went tie, loss, loss.
Carson Wentz did get those two MVP votes. He probably had that same thought in his head where he's like, what if? What if he just fucking goes nuclear and we get old Carson Wentz and now we're a serious threat in the playoffs? I've seen enough Carson Wentz.
I've seen Carson Wentz football for a lifetime. I'm out.
That was the last one. This was the last one for me.
I actually thought he was. I didn't bet the commanders.
That would have been stupid, but I bet the over thing he'd ball out. I'm out.
Fully out. 100% out on Carson Wentz.
I said during the game that they should just throw him into the ocean next to Osama Bin Laden's family. That was a little, I think I went a little too far.
No. Barely.
Not far enough. Barely.
Not far enough. Jake shook his head no.
You don't think they should do that, Jake? No, Jake doesn't think he went too far. Okay, gotcha.
No, no, no, no. They should not do that.
Throw him into the Potomac River. Yeah.
And then rescue him after like 30 seconds and he gets really cold. What happens to Carson Wentz now? Because he's, by all accounts, let's just put it mildly, he doesn't seem like the best teammate, doesn't feel like a guy that people like to be around.
And this is all conjecture. Maybe he's the coolest guy in the world.
Yeah. He's rad.
The one thing that happens with with quarterbacks is like if you are a guy who everyone likes and can help with other you know the younger guys you can have a long long career as a backup is Carson Wentz not going to be in the league I don't think in a couple years I don't think he even likes playing football if you watch him during the games he's just like he he's got we are body language experts yep he looks like he would be rather be anywhere else in the world he's like anywhere else he probably wishes he was at a mike trout game watching mike trout yes play baseball while mike trout wishes he was at a game watching carson wins yeah you're right but he probably would rather be hunting yeah he's probably just saying good go hunt good have fun actually i don't i don't think that the world is ready from a sheer population standpoint for Carson Wentz to be duck hunting full time. I don't think we have enough ducks.
If he is not in the league in a year or two, it will be such a fascinating – well, I guess it's not a what if because we know what happened, but it's more of a holy shit. Could you imagine telling yourself this guy – I mean, Max, if he's not in the league next year, could you imagine telling 2017 Max that Carson Wentz would be out of the league, not by injury? I was the biggest Carson Wentz guy in the history of the planet.
Yeah. And I was even saying to you, I was like, 2017 could come back.
Exactly. That's why I kept – yeah.
When I have to lie to myself, I just say he got two MVP votes in 2017. He could turn back into that guy.
Nope. Now go off.
Go spend all your time on like a prairie in North Dakota, pheasant height. Go be the Stalin of ducks and commit mass genocide against every bird.
He's made $120,000 – sorry, million dollars. $128 million.
He's got still $60 million left to make. I think that if he gets cut, that probably all goes away.
$128 million. Just go away, Carson.
Go away. Because all the fans wanted Heineke today.
You heard him chanting at the game for Heineke. I wanted Heineke.
I think most people that have watched this team play know that with Taylor, it's not just about the actual stats that he contributes, because he does make some stupid plays sometimes. He doesn't really blow your socks off with having like 500-yard passing games or 400-yard passing games.
But the rest of the team just plays a little bit differently when he's in there. It's like they actually believe that they can do something with Carson in the game.
It's just like they're, I think they're afraid of getting Carson hurt because he's such a spaz in the pocket sometimes even even the last drive that they were trying to score on and it was like false start Carson Wentz just like running around circling around into a sack it was just all so sad you see put his like entire body into one of those throws downfield oh where he jumped off both of his feet forward yeah and he couldn't get he has a good arm, which is that's the only reason I think that maybe there will be another team bring him in as a backup. Because he's still, if you just get him in shorts and let him throw him off.
See, no, you're doing it yourself again. Don't do this.
He's got the tools to be a great quarterback. Let's be done with it.
He was picked second overall in the draft. He's got a gigantic arm.
He's still fast when he runs. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't do it. A team will see that and they'll be like, I don't know.
2017. I actually think that there's a chance he might not be on a team next year.
Imagine him play. Okay, let me ask you this.
Here's the real question. Imagine Carson Wentz playing for the 49ers in Kyle Shanahan's office.
No, I still think he'd look like shit. Would he look like dog shit then? Yes.
Because he would still be turning around and, oh, they just showed on Sunday Night Football Big Ben when he had the broken nose with the blood coming out. Such an awesome picture.
I think he would get confused in that offense. Yeah, no.
He would get dizzy. I actually, yeah, there's a decent chance he's not.
Because for him to be on a team next year, you wouldn't bring him in as a backup. You'd bring him in as a starter.
And who's going to actually say we're starting the season? The best chance he has is the commanders. I was actually going to say the best chance that he has is the Colts.
Yeah. No, no.
And he burned that bridge already. He should just go back and forth between the Colts and the commanders.
Yes, I mean, listen, I know where I am in my life rooting for this franchise, and he is, yes, it makes all the sense in the world for him to be on the Commanders or the Colts. Yeah, I think he might just stay with, yeah.
I think, I just pray to God that doesn't happen. Oh, man.
Yeah, it's a bummer. It's a bummer.
And so you're eliminated. It sucks.
I wanted to see Taylor Heineke in the seventh seed. It would have been fun.
It was just a bummer. I can't believe they ruined Major Hog Day.
We unveiled our new mascot, Major Tutty, the hog. I like the hog.
I do too. I think the hog works as a mascot.
It's better than the alternative. They were going to give us a police dog as our mascot.
You should have been the Red Hogs. Yeah, we should have been the Red Hogs, the Hogs, a nod to the former offensive lineman.
It's a cool mascot except if you're losing and you're losing as pathetic. At halftime of the Carson Wentz game where he already has two interceptions and we're up 7-3 at half even though we've sacked Deshaun Watson four times and he's 3 of 8 for 23 yards.
At halftime of that depressing game is not the best time to like roll a cartoon pig out onto the field and be like clap for this well it's it's also the hogs like dressing up in in in dresses with pig noses works when you are bullying the other team with your offensive line when you have Carson Wentz you're just kind of looking at it like this is kind of fucked up it's kind of set yeah when your team's bad you start to realize wait a second I'm wearing a dress because I want the offensive line to fuck me yeah right right wait that doesn't make a lot of sense but if you're if you're like mauling people you're like fuck yeah I'm wearing this dress because yeah because they can fuck me yeah we're men yeah yeah this is what we do I'm such a masculine dude that I would fuck our offensive line yes exactly yeah uh for the the Browns, Deshaun Watson actually, I think, looked decent in the second half. He was 9 for 18, but he had a few nice plays with his feet.
He ran around a little bit. Yeah, Amari Cooper.
Amari Cooper's still good, so I guess if you're a Browns fan, you're like, hey, maybe that's what it will look like next year a little bit. Yeah, I mean, Nick Chubb was awesome again.
Yeah, and their defense, I mean, it's more Carson Wentz, but their defense was very good. Their defense was decent.
They weren't like a complete atrocity in terms of stopping the run. Although Robinson had, he broke a couple of nice ones and just kind of softened them up.
Yeah. That's the thing with Carson Wentz.
Yeah. With Robinson, he's going to give you like, I don't know, I'd say 75% of his carries are just meant to hit you in the face and make you not want to tackle him again,

and then he'll break it out again.

He's basically when you have to loosen a jar for something. When you can't open a jar, you're like, well, I loosened it.

He loosens the jar.

If we get like a small, like a 5'6", Deuce Vaughn type guy,

and then you get a little thunder and lightning,

a little eat and run going.

Darren Sproles could still get 100 easy.

Yeah.

Easy in any offense. Okay, so Commanders eliminated.
Sorry, PFT. I do feel bad.
I mean, I would shut the fuck up, Hank. I was hoping that I was going to get at least one more week.
I do. Yo, seriously.
I really do. Max, turn his mic off, please.
Thank you. He can't do that.
He can't? He should. All right, new studio in Chicago.
We're going to have a mute button for Hank that I get to control. This is like the gone fishing.
It's like Tony reality. Yeah, exactly.
But I only have one of them. It's for that motherfucker in the corner.
This is the gone fishing for TNT when teams get eliminated. I've been standing on the boat waiting for someone to join me.
And PFT and Billy joined me today. And Hank is just sitting there laughing like laughing at us well the real the real like trying i'm like yo that looks fun yeah you want to be on the boat you're like let's go fishing like i literally want to go fishing i want a vacation i want a vacation i want to golf you know 100 holes it just over the arizona bowl weekend i want i want to do this it just hurt so much more that kirk cousins once again eliminated me from the playoffs.
Yeah. Oof.
Yeah. When I believed in him.
Yeah. Which we shouldn't have.
No one should have. That was such a big mistake on my part.
Yeah. Yeah.
I will not make it again. Never, ever, ever.
I will not. Jake, remind me.
Do not trust Kirk Cousins. Don't believe his lies.
We'll talk about that game later. When? Wild but wild card weekend and Carson Wentz 2017 Carson Wentz is never coming back maybe just send me that email every day every Sunday morning next year send me an email if he's on a roster if he's starting I need a text message every Sunday morning if he's starting saying just a reminder 2017 Carson – he's not that guy, pal.
Max, can you just explain to me what happened in 2017? He was so good. What was it about Wentz that made him so great? And watching him then compared to the player that he is now, is it all in his head? Is it Doug Peterson? No, it's a thousand – he is a mental massive pussy.
You were like, how could I not be offensive? Oh, let me go this way. The thing is, that is like the Philadelphia way of toning it down.
Yeah, you just cleaned it up. That was a classy way to just air someone.
I think like high school Max probably would have dropped a hard F right there. No, no, no.
That was very funny. That was very funny.
But, yeah, I mean, he's just a completely different guy. He was the best.
He would get out of everything and then throw an absolute dime 60 yards. And everyone loved him.
And then he got hurt. That Rams game, right? He started motherfucking everyone because he wasn't playing and he was upset.
And then everyone started to hate him. And then that was it.
Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. And then Nick Foles won a Super Bowl, and he was upset about it.
And now you see what happened. I actually think that Nick Foles happened to Carson Wentz.
Yeah. Because the guy that you were better than came in, took your job, played better than you, and he probably got a much bigger – He got cucked.
And so when you just get cucked with a bowl like that, you're never coming back from that. I bet you there was a moment when Nick Foles took over, won the Super Bowl the next year, after everything that happened, I bet you Carson Wentz's wife one night was just like, why is everyone calling him BDN? And he had to explain it.
And then there was a little look in her eye, and then he's like, I fucking hate everyone. I hate the world.
Like, well, he's got a huge hog he got he got jokerfied and she's like how big he turned he turned into he turned into joaquin phoenix he did just because nick falls has a huge dick and won a super bowl yeah that was it that was villain origin then he danced down the stairs at the philadelphia art museum and now we've now we have to deal That's what's ruined. Now he's ruining my life.

He needs to go to therapy just to have it all just talking about Nick Foles and what he did.

He became an incel involuntarily because anyone that he almost fucked was like, wait, I'd

rather be fucking Nick Foles.

Nick Foles.

Yeah, exactly.

Whoa.

Something just fell.

What do you say, Billy?

Do you want to maybe put your feet off the desk and stop spilling stuff over there in

the studio?

Yeah.

Thanks.

All right. What do you say, Billy? The duck killing just didn't scratch the itch anymore.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It's true.
You want something more dangerous. All right.
Next up, Giants 38, Colts 10. I could see Carson Wentz committing murder.
Yes. A franchise to me.
Yeah, multiple. Giants 38, Colts 10.
Brian Dable is coach of the year. He's getting my vote okay I have a lot of backup votes I think he's coach of the year the New York Giants excuse me are in the playoffs for the first time since 2016 the boat curse has officially been erased they have been so bad since that last time they went in the playoffs this team is pretty much the same team as was last year, except the coach is different and he's gotten so much out of these guys.
Daniel Jones, the story got reported before the game that the giants are looking to resign Daniel Jones and Saquon. I think at this point it makes sense.
Reward them. Right.
Like I, we talked about, I can't remember last week or the week before. I still don't think you should pay Daniel Jones a ton of money.

Right.

But Daniel Jones might say to himself as well, like, I know this is the best spot for me.

Brian Dable has reinvigorated my entire career.

Why wouldn't I take a little bit less than I could if I, you know, went to some team that is not going to set me up?

So, I'm just impressed by the Giants.

Like, what a year.

Incredible. And then, of course, the lasting image of the game was cave on thibodeau doing snow angels literally next to

nick foals dead body as he was writhing in pain uh just an all-time clip he has to have not known

i would know he did he definitely didn't even though he was almost touching him i would i would

like to just uh make a motion to ban snow angels when there's nothing to do snow angels in. Yeah.
You should not be able to do it if it's just AstroTurf. Right.
Or FieldTurf. There should actually be something like confetti.
That plays. That always plays.
If it's snow, if it's grapple, if it's ice, do snow angels. It was actually almost nice of him to do that, though, because Nick Foles, it was so hard to watch Nick Foles play football these last two weeks.
It was. He was like doing it in his blood on the field.
It was tough to watch. I think that I've gained a newfound respect for Daniel Jones.
Yes. And I realized why I did, because it's a matter of perspective when you look at Daniel Jones.
If you look at Daniel Jones and you keep thinking to yourself, we drafted this guy to replace Eli Manning. We're waiting for him to be Eli Manning.
You're never going to be happy with him. He's not going to be that type of player.
If you think of him as like a super-powered Taysom Hill, he's an awesome player. The way that he's running with the ball now, the offense that they've got him in with Kafka, it's Kafka, right, the, yeah.
The offense coordinator? Yeah. They've metamorphosized Daniel Jones into being like a supercharged Taysom Hill where he's dynamic with his feet and he's fun to watch.
And when he does, you see it with running quarterbacks all the time, but when he's running the ball, he opens things up and makes the passing game easier for himself based off that. Yes, yes.
And he had two touchdowns two touchdowns throwing he's fun to watch yeah the giants i actually i wouldn't count them out against pretty much anyone in the first round they are of it feels like every game as long as they as long as they don't go down say 14 they're not built for that but if they keep a game within one possession that it feels like every giants game goes that way where it's like keep them around keep them around and then win the fourth quarter yeah the giants might be the team today was different like you don't want to play the giants yeah uh hank i do have something to help your demented cowboys one seed uh troll of max not a troll okay here it is so the. So the Giants are locked in.
I said this, by the way, before the Saints game started. That's true.
So even more demented. The Giants are locked into the sixth seed, so they can't do anything about it, right? That's correct.
I got the playoff machine up right now. I think they're completely locked in the sixth seed.
They're locked in the sixth seed because it's going to be Green Bay, Detroit, or Seattle that rounds out the seventh. They are locked in.
They were most likely going to rest their starters. The only reason I say most likely, 2007, Hank, if you remember, the Giants played the Patriots week 17.
They were locked into the playoffs already. They played them tough.
They started everyone. They almost beat them.
Then they met them in the Super Bowl. Is there a chance that Brian Dable is like, if we go on a run here, we could play the Eagles again? Should we see if we can match up against them? Makes a lot of sense.
I'm just throwing that out there. I think it's more like...
And they have to play the week after anyway. You want to have momentum.
That would be more of a reason to take the rest. Yeah.
No. Momentum.
That's completely opposite. Because if I'm the Giants...
This is their bye week. Rest versus rust.
Two strong things. You've got, one, you don't want to get anyone injured because you have a game that means something next week.
And then two, yeah, you don't want to show the Eagles all the tricks you've got up your sleeve either. Or do you want to and try to fight them really close and be like, we can beat these guys.
Because they didn't get killed by the Eagles earlier this season. You know what? There is precedent here with the Giants playing in a meaningless game against Hank's Patriots back in the day.
That's what I'm saying. During the undefeated season.
What? That's what I just said. Okay, sorry.
That was the 2007 thing. I was looking at the 7-6 seed.
Oh, yeah, yeah. You brought that up.
Fact or fiction, there is love lost between these teams. No love lost.
I think there's a little love lost. Fiction.
Yeah, it's fiction. Between the Eagles and the Giants? Another reason to try and win.
I think the Giants and the Eagles both hate the Cowboys more than they hate each other. Right.
Yeah, there's no love lost. Correct.
Right. There's one other thing that scares me a little bit was Hurts' rookie year when he got put in week 17 playing against the Washington Redskins.
The Giants needed the Eagles to beat the Redskins, and they benched Hurts in the second half. Although that obviously wasn't Brian Dable's team.
Yeah, but I don't know. Still, I still have Giants fans, like, super upset.
That was the Nate Sudfeld game. Yeah.
What a second half that was.

Oh, my God.

Okay.

Now demented Hank is actually starting to make some sense.

No, Hank's very wrong about this.

Yeah.

The Giants, it looks like they're probably going to be playing the Vikings

in the first round of the playoffs because if the Vikings win next week,

they're playing against the Bears.

Yeah.

They're probably going to win that game, I would guess.

They have to win.

And then the 49ers are playing at home against the Cardinals. You have to assume that the Niners win that game, too.
That would line us up with Giants-Vikings first round. Just played a three-point game.
Just played a three-point game. And that was what I was saying, though, when you were looking up, that the Giants, if you're Brian Dable, if you win, I guess if they win this this game or if they play close in this game and the Eagles

end up winning, they wouldn't play the Eagles in the second round.

Most likely. Right? So

why not prove it to your guys that

they're not that much better than you because they were

that much better than you when you played the Meadowlands

earlier in the season.

As for the Colts,

I would just say, remember when the Colts beat the Chiefs

week three? Yeah, that was sick.

I know the Sun beat the Chiefs. Remember that?

Yeah, the Sun beat the Chiefs.

This is the season from hell

I'll see you next time. I was just saying, remember when the Colts beat the Chiefs week three? Yeah, that was sick.
I know the Sun beat the Chiefs. Remember that? Yeah, the Sun beat the Chiefs.
This is the season from hell for the Colts. It could not have.
Everything is unraveled. I guess it's nice that they don't have a decision to make with the coach.
We're just going to find a real coach, maybe? I don't know. I wouldn't put anything past Mr.
Ursae. I want to know what happened at halftime of that game i if i if i were a colts fan i would be very upset if obviously i think jim ursay is not going to be coach i think it's going to be a situation where he's probably going to say to jim ursay it's not for me uh if chris ballard keeps his job though because this colts roster is just falling apart and they don't they haven't able to get the qb.
I don't know how he still has a job. So it makes no sense.
The Colts feel like they have to reset everything. When they were, go back to last year, remember going into the stretch run, the Colts were the hottest team, and everyone said, watch out for the Colts, and they lose to the Jaguars, and Carson Wentz thing falls apart.
It feels like they've been on the precipice, even with Phil Rivers, when they went to Buffalo and almost beat the Bills in the playoffs. And now they have to just reset everything.
So I think if Chris Ballard tries to keep his job or any aspiring GM on the Colts, they're going to tell Jim Irsay that we're not that far off. Yeah.
And you could make the argument if you just look at, you know, they've got a great running back. They beat the Chiefs.
have a good offensive line they beat the chiefs this year they're pretty good ever heard of them yeah they were they were kicking the shit out of the vikings at halftime yep so what changed after that i want i want an investigation i want to know how it's possible that that the colts have gotten this bad since halftime of that game against the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah.
What was the speech like? At one point this season, they were 3-2-1. Yeah.
They were a team that was looking like they could compete for the AFC South, and it's completely fallen apart. Yeah, the Vikings' loss is actually a historical loss.
They got absolutely pounded by the cowboys pounded today yeah it's just a bad bad scene how bad have they been outscored since the that halftime jake can you look that up so if you look at today's game the game against the cowboys and then halftime from that point on against the vikings i just off the top of my head i would would guess something like 80-10. Yeah.
Or 90-10. Yeah.
I mean, they lost by 17 to the Chargers. They lost by 28 today.
And the Cowboys, that was an absolute drubbing. It's just a shit show there.
Yep. An absolute shit show.
Okay. But they did beat the Chiefs week three.
Hang the banner. They actually might hang that banner.
That's the one franchise that would probably do it.

Okay, so next up, Max, turn your camera on.

Saints 20, Eagles 10.

I'm officially worried.

Yeah.

Max, NFL rigged?

That holding call on that pancake block? I mean, that was a horrible call.

You would have won this game. We heard Max from the other room I mean, that was a horrible call.
You would have won this game.

We heard Max from the other room just yell,

That was a pancake!

And then we made him come and sit with us for the rest of the game.

I'm worried.

We gotta get healthy.

We gotta get healthy.

You gotta win Week 18, buddy.

You told me you were healthy, Max.

No, you don't gotta get healthy.

You gotta win.

I thought we were good.

You said there are reports that Jalen Hurts is gonna play. Confirm.
You said confirm. No, you don't gotta get healthy.
You gotta win. I thought we were good.
You said there are reports that Jalen Hurts

is gonna play. Confirmed.
You said

confirmed. No, I said Lane

Johnson was confirmed for the playoffs, is what I

said. Right.
Because he doesn't, he's

opting not to get surgery. Correct.

Like a legend. Fuck yeah.

And then you told me Jalen Hurts was gonna

play. I don't think I ever said that.
Do you know what

would help with getting healthy?

Winning the fucking NFC number one seed. Yeah, I know.
And maybe if Gardner Minshew didn't suck in the fourth quarter, then it could have happened. I actually think, here's my hot take of the day, Jalen Hurts should be the MVP because of what we've seen from Gardner Minshew.
There's a lot of quotes that are looking really bad. Like, anyone can run this offense.
Yeah. Even though Jalen Hurts is most likely not going to play the last three games of the season.
Give him the MVP because the debate is always if you took this guy off the team, what would they look like? Well, now we know 13 and one. Oh, and two.
Yeah. I think fights tweeted about this last week when they they the pictures of Gardner Mitchell walking into the stadium.
Yeah. Go around.
Yeah. They said Gardner Mitchell probably leads the league and people tweeting a picture of him on that entrance stroll and saying Eagles buy a million.
Yep. It is true.
You want to bet on the Eagles when you see Gardner-Mitchie. I love him.
I love him too. He's a fun player to watch.
Well, he has been. He hasn't been fun this year, though.
I don't know what it is about the offense. He doesn't seem like himself.
He's not the Gardner-Mitchie that we fell in love with. Yeah, he's not.
And I'm officially worried. Yeah, the locker room, A.J.
Brown was basically trashing Gardner Minshew in the locker room. What'd he say? He was...
Oh, no. You motherfucker.
I want to mute you. My hate for Hank has gone up with this Eagles future.
I have. Because I see what he tries to do to you.
He's the worst. I hate everything about him.
But, yeah, I think A.J. Brown was like, yeah, he just had one read, and he was throwing it to me no matter what, and that's what happens in the NFL.
Yeah. And it's just like, it's true, but I don't know.
Jalen Hurts MVP. You don't have to say that.
Jalen Hurts will be back for Sunday, though. I don't know.
He'll be back for the playoffs. Confirmed? Even if you don't get a bye? You have to get a bye.
It's 14 point favorites. Hank, oh my God.
That was such a sad way to say that. It's 14 point favorites, dad.
Yeah, it's 14 point favorites. You guys are going to get the one seat Have to I wouldn't worry about that Stop fucking smiling This is a contentious show Hank's going to have to put the Giants in the Hungry Dog If you want that juicy plus sign It might just be the Giants Yeah, a Hungry Dog of one A lone wolf, a hungry wolf Jake just texted, thank you Jake Colts have been outscored 97-16 since that halftime against the Vikings.
Oh, my God. Just an absolute shit show.
I'm worried. That's all I'm going to say.
This whole Eagles thing was based on them getting that one seat. They need to get the one seat.
Things still could be fine. Right now, they're not.
The defense stepped up in the second half, which was big. Yeah, they leave the league in sacks.
That was my biggest worry watching the first half was, holy shit, this defense has gone to absolute shit. But then they played really well in the second half.
Max, in the first half, I would be concerned about the offense. In the first half, I don't think Devontae Smith, Goddard, or Brown had a catch until the very end of the first half.
It's Gardner-Minchot, and it's not Lane Johnson. So you kind of have to take the offense with a little bit of a grain of salt.
The defense... I do think Gardner-Johnson is going to be back.
I don't know why... I don't know if you saw something.
No, he was just saying that based on your track record of saying

the Eagles players are coming back.

I thought I was looking up.

I was like, fuck, did I miss something?

No, I just solely.

If they want to beat the Bucs, that's the key.

Yeah, you guys should have just not tried against the Cowboys,

not gotten injured, and then gotten the 1C this week.

Yeah.

And everything would have been better.

Max, counterpoint, home playoff game, the link. But they don't have it.
I don't know. Yet.
Yeah. And everything would have been better.
Max counterpoint home playoff

game the link but they don't have

it. I don't know yet.

Yeah. Yeah.
No but I'm saying

at least in the first round of the playoffs. No.

No. They would go to the fifth.
No.

It all the whole thing. Stop.

That was messed up by you.

That was that was gross

what you just did right. You knew that.
No you

like you guys know what. No they're the one seed.
But you knew that they would go from one to five. They're the one seed.
It's okay. They've been the one seed the entire season.
Not to make it worse because I'm on your team here, Max, but the Saints winning this game, you have their pick. Now they went from the ninth pick to the 11th pick.

So it's not terrible what happened today,

but if they win in week 18,

your pick from them could be somewhere around 15,

which it would have been like top seven pick

if you had beaten them today and then they lost in week 18.

Yeah, that's not great.

I'm not worried about the pick right now.

But I'm just saying that that did happen.

That did happen.

Because I'm not going to be an Eagles fan next year.

No, correct.

That does suck.

Whatever.

We just have to win next week.

I don't care about the pick right now.

We're winning now.

We're winning now right now.

Okay.

Win now.

What do you think the spread is going to be for the Cowboys-Commanders game next week?

Because I was going to say you could trust maybe the commanders could pull something off. What if 2017 Carson Wentz comes back? Yeah, that's what you need.
Max, that's what you need. You need it.
You need MVP Carson Wentz to come out, beat the Cowboys next week. I was thinking this earlier.
Wentz is so bad now that... Do you see his arm though? His arm on that pass? I don't even think Eagles fans dislike Wentz anymore.
He's so bad that it's just... And you got your Super Bowl.
Yeah. But no, there was still a point when he came back and was so bad and was acting like shit that he was the most hated guy in Philadelphia.
Now it's kind of like, oh, who cares? He's so, so bad. But he could also save your ass.
Yeah, would love it. I'm down to root for Carson Wentz.
Because things ended up so poorly in Philadelphia, Carson Wentz might just not want to save your ass. Yeah, well, whatever.
He might throw the game. Oh, no.
Carson Wentz might go out there and throw three interceptions. If he tried to throw the game, he would play the game of his life.
It'd be like trying to fade yourself. The Saints, by the way, I would put them in the no one would have wanted to play them if they had made the playoffs.
Because they actually have played the last four games, they're three and one, and the one loss being that Monday night game against Tom Brady. I don't know.
Every time I watch the Saints game, they have some guys. Their defense has some grit to it.
I would have put them in the nobody wants to watch them play in the play that too that too that would have been a classic andy dalton early saturday playoff game carry his ass there that's where he's he's the most comfortable but yes the saints are maybe they might be the most boring decent team in the nfl yes because their defense you're right their defense is pretty good and they have some offensive players that when andy dalton is playing decent they they look like a competent team yeah they're mixing in Taysom Hill I think that's a franchise I think as a franchise the Saints are well run enough yeah to even when they're at their most boring most depressing they're still going to hover around 500 yeah shout out Drew Brees for getting him to that that spot and also that we can't put on Purdue LSU yeah I don't think that we can say his name on a pin property. That's true.

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And also, what's his name? Rossburg. Yeah, Rossburg.
Jeff Rossburg. Jerry Rossburg.
Jerry Rossburg. The Broncos actually did, their offense looked somewhat competent today.
Yeah, Russ was running the ball. Running, play action, all these things that Nathaniel Hackett, let's not make fun of him anymore because he's just gone but uh it probably would have sucked to watch it if you're him and be like wait we were able to russ was able to run my big question is do you think nathaniel hackett watched this game i don't think that i don't think so i think he probably went on a hike somewhere yeah probably had some like cardboard box in his house he had to fill with dishes he probably he probably just watched uh what's it called? Awesome Powers.
Yeah. No, Awesome Powers and Star Wars.
Over and over and over. Or Patch Adams.
Just to laugh about it. Yeah, he probably watched the Packers game today.
He might have watched the Packers game. And just like, what if? Just imagine himself on the sidelines.
Yeah. I miss that.
Yeah, but I mean, Russell Wilson looked good. He was running hard.
He was running fast, and he wasn't doing that for Nathaniel Hackett, whether that was by design or whether that was Russell Wilson just not wanting to initiate contact. But I feel like what happened this week where Broncos players kind of went to bat for him, it made Russell Wilson actually, he needed that to now want to go out there and lay it all out on the line and sacrifice his body to a certain extent to help the team win i actually think that russell wilson at watching the post game he was genuinely showing emotion like kind of teary-eyed talking about his teammates having his back i think he officially hit rock bottom and he's now coming back like i i the internet has been mean to him we've been mean to him the world's been mean to's been mean to him.
Deservedly so for a lot of the things he's done. Subway held on to Jared longer than they held on to Russell Wilson.
They're like, wait till all the facts come out on Jared. But I do think he hit rock bottom.
And he is kind of auditioning for next year because it's not totally off the table that the Bronx is like, we can't do this. So it was good that he played better.

And the Chiefs, the Chiefs are just, I don't know if Chiefs fans, I'd love to hear from them if they're a little nervous going into the playoffs.

Because their record is obviously incredible.

They keep winning games.

But the small stuff has to bother them.

Like, Canarius Tony dropped another punt today. I think they missed an extra point.
Mahomes had a red zone interception. They've just had these teams hanging around.
And when you play a playoff team, like if you play the Bills or the Bengals and you make these small mistakes, that's the difference in a playoff. Hasn't Harrison Bucker missed like six extra points this season? I think it was like a 50.
Yeah, he missed an extra point. He's missed a bunch from him.
He missed a 50-plus yarder. He's weird because he's usually pretty good from like 40 and beyond.
And when I say beyond, I mean to like 60. He's a good long-distance kicker.
At least he has been in the past. But this year, it's him.
And Evan McPherson kind of stinks at extra points now too. Yes.
On the Bengals, it's weird. But I think with with the chiefs they're kind of uh my prediction is chiefs fans are just thinking we'll just smash the playoff button right once we get there right we're gonna be the chiefs again the only thing that would scare me because because you do have patrick homes say well we have patrick homes don't worry about it which i agree with yes uh because he is that special but i always am concerned when you have the little special teams things i feel like special teams always decide these playoff games because it's a game on the margins and it's like one mistake you know we saw with the packers last year remember uh when when uh the giants and 49ers that nfc championship game and i think it was kyle williams fumbled all those punts.
The little things that are off, Cody Parkey, little things that are off

always end up showing up in the playoffs.

So I don't know.

Maybe Chiefs fans aren't worried about this because, like you said,

smash the playoff button.

But they played.

So they lost to the Bengals by three.

They played the Broncos in mile high. They won by six.
They had to go to overtime against the Texans. They smashed the Seahawks, and then they won by three today.
And they're dominating the games on the stat sheet. Like that Texans game, they doubled their yardage.
But the little mistakes will bite them in the ass once they get to the playoffs. Their special teams coordinator, Dave Tobe.
Yeah, Tobe. Dave Tobe.
Legend. So he's the kind of guy that I think would probably, if he sees Tony fucking up, he's probably just going to bench Tony.
Or just don't return any punks. Because he's like the best special teams coordinator in the history of the NFL.
Right. So I think the little things, at least in the special teams part of the game, will probably get cleared up, or there's reason to believe that they'll get cleared up if you're a Chiefs fan.
And then on offense, it's Andy Reid, it's Patrick Mahomes. They've been there before.
Although they did point it out, Matt Nagy, just a great staff. It was pointed out earlier today that Patrick Mahomes has never won a road playoff game.
Crazy. Because he's always had home field.
He's never played a road playoff game. He's never played in in a road playoff game but we don't know if he can go on the road and do it he actually he hasn't really proven anything in this league he hasn't because winning on the road in the playoffs patrick thing you can do patrick mahomes has had everything handed to him in this league yes he's had it too easy i just i don't know i i'm i maybe i'm way off maybe chiefs fans feel totally different but when you when you're playing these games and they just they haven't like put anyone away i guess they did the seahawks yeah they did put chiefs away the police did oklahoma police shout out boys in blue i don't know they're playing with fire uh one one note that is doesn't have anything to do with this game i didn't realize that the draft this year is in Kansas City, so that's going to suck for me because it's going to be all stories about Mahomes' draft and how it changed everything.
I do like the draft goes to different places. I like it, too.
It's a traveling carnival at this point. Patrick Mahomes completed a pass to himself in today's game.
Brett Favre. I have a prediction.
If it hasn't happened yet because I didn't look this up, Patrick Mahomes is going to throw a touchdown to himself at some point. I would think so.
Yeah. It's on the table.
Didn't Mariota do that? He did. Mariota did that.
Brett Favre's first completion was to himself. Yep.
On the Falcons. I think Mariota did that against the Patriots, right? I think it was against the Chiefs.
Yeah, I don't think it was the Patriots. I think it was a playoff game against the Chiefs.
It was when the Chiefs came back and won that game. Sorry, when the Titans came back and won that game, right? Yeah.
I don't remember if they won. I believe it was against the Chiefs.
I want to say Kelsey got knocked out, and then the Titans came back and won that game. And I might have reversed that entire thing in my head.
I'm looking it up right now. Look it up.
Look it up. This is good.
Against the Chiefs. And did they win? Titans? Marcus Mariota throws a TD to himself on this crazy play.
And what was the final score? I don't know. It's a YouTube thing.
Oh. Search it.
Someone search it. This is our version of making sure we don't have dementia.
Can you remember this random playoff game from seven, eight years ago? 2018? Yeah, sure. No.
No, not 2018.

Oh, Billy, it was on January 6th. January 6th.

Oh, nice.

Shout out.

Oh, yeah.

It's coming up.

That's your day, yeah.

Yeah.

What do you have planned?

I'm not a government building.

A little dust up?

I don't know.

Someone give me the actual score here.

Titans versus Chiefs.

22-21 Titans. Titans, yes.
They came back. Second half, Kelsey got knocked out.
I'm pretty sure it's because I had the Chiefs. And I was like, this is bullshit.
Chiefs were up 21-3 at halftime. All right, so my mind still works.
And we're scoreless in the second half. And yes, because that's the year after, or in that offseason, the Bears hired Matt Nagy.

And Matt Nagy was, I think, the offensive coordinator. Yeah.
So, sick. No points in the second half.
Travis Kelsey did get knocked out. Yep.
Okay. Next up, Lions 41, Bears 10.
Not a lot to say about this game. The Lions just absolutely kicked the shit out of the Bears.
I want the Bears to lose. I've said this before, but wanting the Bears to lose is just the most warm, comforting thing because they are so good at losing.
So they're dominant. They're one of the best losers out there.
They're really good, yeah. I don't understand any Bears fan that doesn't want them to lose this stretch run.
I know that I said in October I would like them to mix in a win. At this point, it's not to sound like make it super serious, but it does feel franchise-altering if you go from the second pick to the fourth or fifth pick.
Second is a big one. And it might be the first pick if the Texans can beat the Colts next week.
But it's so huge considering the fact that we just saw Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud play.
Everyone's going to want a quarterback. You could get a haul for this second pick and then reload your entire defense hopefully because their defense was so bad today.
And Justin Fields had no time. He got sacked seven times.
He's been sacked the most out of any quarterback this year. Being in the pocket's actually more dangerous, Billy, for him right now.
Well, because didn't he have 100 yards rushing in the first quarter? Yeah. Which, I mean, again, Justin Fields does something in the first half that makes you be like, holy shit, this is the guy.
And then they lose. It's a great plan that they've got set up.
They cannot win this last game. They have to lose.
They have to have the first or second pick, and they have to trade it. I think they're going to lose.

I mean, they are the New England Patriots of losing. Yeah, they're very good at losing.

They know what to do.

It's a dynasty.

I also wouldn't hate it if Justin Fields didn't play the last game.

No, this is the one that you would sin him.

He took a huge hit in this game, and I don't want anything bad to happen.

So the Lions are 7-2 in their last nine.

Yep.

As far as their offense goes, they're incredible to watch. Their defense has improved.
Aiden Hutchinson has three interceptions on the year. The one today was, I don't even know what the play was.
There was like four seconds left in the first half, and it felt like they were doing a Hail Mary, and then they didn't. He's a shut-down defensive end.
He is. He's a lockdown.
He was against the sideline to prevent them from running out and stopping the clock. But there was not even time for that.
It was kind of a crazy thing that they were even running a play. But yeah, he's been the real deal for them.
And the one thing that would really, really suck, because I think we all agree the Lions would be very fun to be in the playoffs, if the Lions go to Green Bay and beat Green Bay, but the Seahawks also win, the Seahawks would go to the playoffs because they beat the Lions head-to-head. That would be the biggest bummer in terms of playoff enjoyment.
If we're going to draw it up, and Lions fans, please turn this off right now, this is what happens to the Lions. Yeah, no, they're not going to beat Aaron Rodgers.
This is the most Lions thing to end the year. You're good.
You're actually really good. If you get to the playoffs, you can probably win some playoff games.
No, they're not going to beat the Lions. And then the Seahawks jump.
You win your last game. I don't even think they're going to do that.
You handle your business, and then the Seahawks get in because they win, and you go home after winning a game. And no one wants to see Seahawks in the playoffs.
No one wants that. But, okay, Lions fans you can listen again.
This is how you know if it's brand new Lions or if it's same old Lions. I don't think they're going to beat Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau.
He's on his fuck shit again. I don't know.
I did like... Fucking people up.
I like the play that they ran today. The Bears ran today where they actually had somebody under center.
It was a tight end. It came in motion.
Went under center. They put a tight end at, and then Justin Fields in at running back.
They pitched it to him, and I think it was a 50-yard game. Yeah, that was a sick play.
Yeah, and I think those are the plays that Luke Getze has to put on paper to keep his job, be like, hey, look, I have real plays. Yeah.
We're still trying to lose, but I have real plays. I'll show you them in the first quarter, and then I'm locking it down, and we're not doing anything else.
We've've got plays there yeah they're doing a very good job of that yeah so I'm happy they lost if you know if you're friends with someone who's a Bears fan if you have a family member who's a Bears fan who thinks that they should somehow try to win week 18 you need to tell them to shut the fuck up and then they got shit for brains this is not someone tried to tell me it's loser no, no. It's actually winner talk to try to actually set up your franchise to be in the best possible position to get the most possible picks going forward.
And they also have cap space, so I've been doing a little trade machine in my head. Yeah.
Maybe a swap with the Raiders. Raiders have the ninth pick right now, I believe.
Maybe a swap with the Raiders, and we'll take Devontae Adams off your hands. You get the second pick.
We get the ninth pick. Maybe you throw in a second-round pick as well, Raiders.
You get your new quarterback. We get Devontae Adams.
Just something I've been thinking about. Raiders have the seventh pick.
I agree that it's winner talk. It would be loser talk if you were playing against the Packers in the last week of the season, and you had the opportunity to eliminate the Packers.
Then you want to win that game. In this case, I agree.
I think it's Winter Talk. And not to compare myself to Jesus again, but I did kind of sacrifice myself.
I said a couple weeks ago. You did.
The Commanders. Credit to you.
I will sacrifice the Washington Commanders playoff opportunity if it means that the Lions can get in. Credit to you.
Because I want to see the Lions to see detroit enjoy themselves so i was happy to do it credit to you back in three days big time credit to you uh jaguars 31 texans three we didn't watch this game the jaguars are just the hottest team in the nfl right now they've won four games in a row six of eight six of eight uh they won four games in total from 2020 and 2021 seasons. Yep.
They will be going for five wins in a row next weekend for the first time since 2005. Wow.
They also beat the Texans for the first time since 2017. Wow.
They hadn't beaten the Texans since 2017. They also had the biggest halftime lead they've had, 21-0, since the last time they beat the Texans in 2017.
That's crazy. That division, it seems like it's filled with those types of weird stats where the Colts don't win in Jacksonville, the Jaguars don't beat the Texans.
It doesn't matter how dog shit your team is. Derek Henry runs for 200 yards every time he plays the Texans.
Itans doesn't matter how bad your team is you always have like some weird stat in your favor in the afc south yes yes absolutely um yeah the jaguars it's a great lesson in that the c the nfl season is long and we should never make blanket judgments since october which we always do. But the Jaguars, at the end of October, were 2-6 off of a loss to the Denver Broncos.
They were 2-6 heading into November off of a loss to the Denver Broncos. They've been 6-2 since.
They have a win-and-get-in game against the Titans on Week 18, which might be flexed. which might be flexed.
No, Jake's down about that.

Might not be flexed.

I wouldn't want to play the Jaguars right now.

No.

I mean, they're hot.

Jaguars, so Trevor Lawrence is like a completely different player.

And you have to play in Duvall.

They're doing that thing.

Trevor Lawrence and Doug Peterson, for whatever reason,

they're working together as like one person. They're sharing a brain.
Doug Peterson's a really good fucking head coach. He's a great coach.
It's insane how he got fired. I think they're going to smoke the Titans.
Yeah. I think we're going to be jagging off in the playoffs.
Yeah. Duvall, fill up the pool.
Everyone put your jeans on. We're going swimming.
It's going to be great. I'm psyched.
Jackson DeVille is going to be wearing a thong, descending from the top of the rafters tony khan's gonna be there get all the all the major jackson players in town it feels like by the way the texans got the memo that they have to lose as well today well so a counterpoint to what you said earlier about like let's go back to ourselves at the start of the year and tell ourselves that we don't know shit about the nfl yeah we were dead about the Houston Texans. Oh, yeah.
We nailed the Houston Texans.

Oh, they're so bad.

They're very bad.

And I would like them to try hard week 18 against the Colts

because that's a winnable game.

But it does feel like the tank Texans,

because they had those games, remember, against the Chiefs,

and, oh, we got a doink in Sunday Night Football.

A miss?

They had those games against the Chiefs and the Cowboys

where they were very much in them. Someone somewhere told Love hey dude why don't you chill out like we'll give you your job next year but you got to chill out you got to stop with this shit so that's the that's the question i don't i don't think that lovey's going to be there next year i don't know that would be would that be back-to-back years they've fired a coach yeah one year i because i think that i think they'll let him stay for one more year i I think they just got rid of, what's his face, Easterby Rasputin.
Yeah. So he's out.
They're going to, I think, let Casero run the show now. I just...
They want to hire Josh McCown. But they're still a year away from being a year away.
But they've got draft picks. That's true.
They do have draft picks. They've got draft picks.
Okay, we'll see. I hope they keep Lovey around, too.

Try harder next week, Texans, please.

Last one of the early slate, Falcons-Cardinals didn't watch a second.

Had no playoff implications.

Desmond Ritter won a game.

I watched a little bit because David Blau said that he was going to let it rip.

Yep.

So that was his pregame quote.

He basically said, fuck it.

This is maybe the only chance I'll ever get to start an NFL game.

Your audition, yeah.

So in my mind, I was like,

he's going to throw no fewer than three interceptions and fumble twice.

Like when David Blau is letting it rip, he lets it rip.

Yep.

And so I went back, watched all the highlights of this game,

of which there were more than one.

Okay.

And David Blau played remarkably conservative, and he protected the ball. Yeah.
So I think this answers the question. David Blau on the continuum of backups between a gunslinger and game manager, he's firmly in the game manager.
Yeah, letting it rip. We know that.
Letting it rip is like one touchdown, no interception. Right, right.
Great game for David Blau. He did throw the ball 40 times.
Yeah. He did let it rip in that respect.
He let it rip. He was safe with it.
This game did not really have any true highlights. No.
It was like a couple short completions. I guess we did watch the very end.
Good for Arthur Smith to win a game. Yeah.
Like we said in Fastest Two Minutes, two most attractive coaches in the NFL NFL I think Arthur showed Cliff who's boss yeah he did Arthur Smith is a hot body Cliff Kingsbury you're old news well it's like you want to you want a man yeah or you want a boy yeah Arthur Smith is next up in terms of hot coaches yeah like I could definitely see that being a Sports Illustrated cover maybe even maybe even the swimsuit edition yeah cliff kingsbury is is instagram arthur smith is linkedin yeah he's just a boss yeah he is he's a boss he's a boss all right let's do a quick ad and then we'll get to uh the afternoon games these games are being brought to you by game time created by fans for fans game time is the ticketing app that makes it easier than ever to score last-minute deals on tickets to sports, concerts, and shows, and they guarantee the lowest price. GameTime is the exclusive ticketing partner of Barstool Sports.
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Chargers 31, Rams 10. Not a whole lot other than the fact that Chargers actually could get the fifth seed now, which would be good for your future.
It would be. So everything's kind of playing out the way that I envisioned when I put that future down.
Yeah. I saw in my mind, I saw the Ravens losing.
I saw the Chargers winning out. Then the Chargers get to go to Jacksonville in the playoffs, which although the Jaguars are hot and they beat the fuck out of the Chargers earlier this season, you'd still rather go there.
Yeah. go to Buffalo, Kansas City, or Cincinnati.
Yeah. And so the Chargers, I mean, it was good to see the Chargers have kind of, you know, you're waiting for them to Charger it up and they have it.
Like that was, again, they should have won and they won convincingly. There's still plenty of time for the Chargers to Charger around a little bit.
Well, it'll just happen in the playoffs. It'll happen in the offs.
uh it was it was good when kinjack tweeted out something interesting kinjack the only actual chargers fan i think in the world tweeted out a stat about austin eckler that i was not aware of and we should be respecting austin eckler a little bit more than we are i think total touchdowns in 2001 2022 for the following afc running backs nick chubb 21 touchdown 21 touchdowns. Josh Jacobs, 20 touchdowns.
Derek Henry, 20 touchdowns. Austin Eckler, 38 touchdowns.
Wow. I mean, yeah, he's a weapon.
Pretty good. Absolute weapon.
Who is the guy? Who is the one Chargers fan? The other one we knew. Boltman? Boltman, yeah.
No, no, no. The guy in the comments section.
Oh, Sierra Nevada's. Yeah, diarrhea or something? Yeah.
Yeah. Sierra Nevada's bolt up.
It was old school parcel. He would just comment.
He was the only Chargers fan I ever knew. He would just be like, got some Sierra Nevadas getting ready for the Chargers game.
I think his comments handle was like diarrhea man or something. I did meet a Chargers fan this weekend, actually.
And I got Shane. Yeah, Shane.
He had a Chargers tattoo on his leg. I met him too, yeah.
Yeah, that guy, I was like, that's a decision that you made. That's also very funny because I think he just goes around and tells everyone, like, hey, look, I'm a Chargers fan.
I'm a Chargers fan. Check this out.
I can prove it. His name was, can I have a side of diarrhea with that? Can I have a side of diarrhea with that? Bolt up.
And he would just comment, like, getting ready for the Chargers, boys. Like, got my Sierra Nevadas.
Everyone in the comment section would be like, go for it, man. We love you.
Bolt up. Yeah, shout out him.
Legend of the Chargers fandom. Bolt up.
Good news for the Chargers also. Joey Bosa played half the snaps today, so he's gearing back up.
Yeah, and Chargers are looking good. Brandon saley saved his job on paper everything works with these chargers it's kind of scary like they should if if the nfl was actually played on a spreadsheet the chargers would be like the patriots yeah and they would be just dominant and and i i think we talked about this last week but mike williams when mike williams is out there um and keenan allen, I start to believe in the Chargers because they look totally different.
Yep. And it just shows how deep the AFC is.
The NFC is an absolute shit show where we're talking about maybe the Bucs making a run. By the way, we totally forgot to mention the greatest punt of all time by the Bucs punter who saved, maybe saved the game by up and and and kicking off the side of his foot uh running down the field but the Chargers I'm starting to believe in the Chargers as well yeah the NFC playoffs are going to be awesome there's not one the seventh seed whoever gets it you could say maybe the weak link but one through six any of those teams like can make a deep run definitely and uh the key think, to this offense is when their tight end gets involved.
Everett, dude is fucking huge. And he wears number seven, which is always weird to see when he catches the ball.
You're like, wait a second, who is that monster? Because I think he's 6'3", 240 pounds, South Alabama. This dude is fucking awesome.
And when he's involved on offense. Then you've got Mike Williams, who's also a legitimate red zone threat.
Keenan Allen, also just a big dude. They've got massive targets.
And it actually is a perfect, like, when the Chargers were struggling earlier in the season, Everett was the only thing they had. Yeah.
So it was, now that they have all their pieces together, the Chargers are dangerous. The Rams, I don't, Cam Akers has kind of saved his career.
That's nice. that's nice yeah it's back 100 yard games kind of came out of nowhere just figured the rams were gonna have this let down after uh after the christmas day beat down they had of the broncos they're just not that talented and uh yeah i don't maybe they'll maybe they'll beat the seahawks week week 18 i didn't see that yeah i could definitely see that it's interesting because um've got Cam Akers who's been playing really well, but at the beginning of the season, he was a doghouse guy.
I feel like running backs are the most doghouse position, right? If you fumble, you get in a doghouse. If you just don't work hard enough in camp, don't watch enough film.
If you're blocking isn't on point as a rookie, you get into a coach'shouse oh yeah you very rarely get out of a doghouse it seems like cam makers has worked his way out worked his way out of the doghouse yeah and and he's also one of those guys who's sneaky so you so young what is this a second or third year but because the injuries and everything you think he's been around forever he was good in college um don't they have also Malcolm Brown as their other running back? I believe so.

I think he scored a touchdown today. Malcolm Brown,

that dude's got to be like 33,

34. I mean, running backs, I can never get running backs.
I remember he

went to Texas and he was like the number one

recruit, or he was top 10 in the country.

28 years old. At like any position.

Different Malcolm Brown. Different Malcolm Brown.

Another Malcolm Brown that went to Texas. Yes,

that was a different one.

Malcolm Brown, running back. He's 29 years

old. 29.
Yeah, I guess

Thank you. Different Malcolm Brown.
Different Malcolm Brown. Another Malcolm Brown that went to Texas.
Yes, there's a different one. Malcolm Brown, running back.
He's 29 years old. 29.
Yeah, I guess in running back years, that's like 40. Yeah, running backs, I can never actually get their age.
Yeah, Kim Akers, 23. Okay, next up, Niners, 37, Raiders, 34.
We forgot in all the Cowboys, Hank's trolling of Cowboys one seed talk, the Niners can absolutely get the one seed. If the Eagles do end up slipping up in week 18 and the Niners win, they get the one seed, not the Cowboys.
Yeah, when that was kind of incented in my brain and it got going, the Raiders were up 14. Ah, okay.
Gotcha. You said that you were talking about this before the Saints game.
Oh, that's true. But, yeah, the Vikings and the 49ers needed to lose one of the next two games.
It appeared, obviously, the Raiders are the Raiders, but that game was going as if the 49ers were going to lose. But wait, just to clarify, when you say when it got incepted in your brain, you mean when you thought about it? Yeah, and also, again, just to back up what Max said,

you said you came into the day before the Saints-Eagles game saying Cowboys one seed.

Yeah, so imagine what it's going to be like.

No, you were kind of like Cowboys are going to get the one seed.

They still might.

Okay, all right, yeah.

And if they are, I'll put my hand up and say,

sorry, Hank, I was wrong.

And what will you do if they don't?

I'll shake that hand.

No, no, no, no.

You'll say,'m sorry i was wrong i'm on my troll shit only if the eagles get the one seed if the 49ers get it the eagles blow the one if the eagles blow the one seed i will not be apologizing for anything okay okay uh j Jared Sinem was actually not bad in this game. He had a couple interceptions, but I don't think anyone expected Jared Sinem to look like that.
No, he was good in the first half. The Raiders got in a shootout with the Niners defense that I think before this weekend, and you can't make a judgment after one game if you like pulled everyone's like the best uh unit in the nfl the niners defense would be up there yeah and they got kind of obliterated today which i i don't know if it's a one game aberration but uh it was that was a crazy crazy game i mean if you're jared cinema you have to be almost relieved right now because he had a great thing going for him, which was just be one offensive coordinator's pet guy that he brings around with him everywhere, his security blanket, his all-time backup, and never actually have to show anything in a game because then the ruse might be over if you have to actually perform.
He goes out. Yeah, he had two interceptions, threw three touchdowns, almost 400 yards.
Now he's just got to like breathe out and be like thank god i didn't blow that yeah like just hope no one watches week 18 because there'll probably be a correction but it's better that he did this like in in this game he gets a good defense yes now it's like okay imposter syndrome get that out of the way yep he knows he's supposed to be there right now yep because this could have been a disaster could have been a disaster i think everyone thought it was gonna be a disaster it was like a 10 point spread um the niners by the way the christian mccaffrey trade turns out it was really really good so uh since he got traded remember the first week against the chiefs he didn't it was like a limited role because he got traded that week so not counting that game he has uh a thousand yards and nine touchdowns in nine games, and they're and oh yeah pretty good nine and oh since he got traded to the niners uh kind of a game changer and every team loses the week after they play them yep so bet against the raiders next week is what we're saying yeah i i mean i i i am very much a believer that games can get out of hand and like the the tenor of a game but we're're going to talk about Michigan and TCU where I don't think the Niners defense is all of a sudden bad. It's just, this game became a shootout out of nowhere out of basically the, I mean, the Raiders marched down in the first drive and sometimes games pinball like that.
And it's not, it's not saying the Niners have a bad defense. If they do it two weeks in a row, maybe I'd say, huh, that's weird.
I'll they'll be okay. This was a major look-ahead game, too, for the 49ers.
It's the Raiders. They're not playing against Derek Carr.
They should play every year, though. Oh, absolutely.
I wish the Niners... But they should play in the Bay Area.
Yeah, they should play in the Bay Area every year. So that means the Niners would also have to probably move their stadium.
Yes. True.
Move it an hour north. The Raiders remember that Devontante adams is good that was pretty much the difference between the offense with stidham and the offense with car is they just kept throwing the ball to davante adams yeah and be like okay this our best player let's get him involved in some of the plays yeah and then maybe he'll score a couple touchdowns there was a report before the game in case you were interested and curious when you saw the news about Derek Carr getting benched, you might have thought to yourself, wait, is Derek Carr going to retire now? I know we all thought about that, right? No.
Oh, you didn't? No, I thought he was going to retire. Okay, good.
Because Ian Rappaport tweeted out this morning that Derek Carr has decided not to retire. Oh, okay.
So he's coming back. I was way wrong.
He's not retiring. He's just benched for two games.
Oh, okay. Point of clarification, he'll be back.
He'll be on the Colts next year. Okay, we need Rappaport to tweet one of those for our friend Will Compton.
Not retired. We do not retired.
Not retired. Year 11 loading.
Year 11 loading. Wait for it.
All right. The next game.
So, yeah, Niners looks like they're going're gonna be they could be the one seed they could

be they could be one through three at this point so we'll see what happens week 18 i think if they

win and the eagles win the two seed if they win i'm running the simulation right now i believe

that's what it is if they win and the eagles win they will be the two seed there's only the vikings

are the only team that can't get the one seed at this point uh of those like the cowboys the niners

the eagles uh the vikings cannot get the one seed yes they're gonna be either two or three yeah

Thank you. team that can't get the one seed at this point uh of those like the cowboys the niners the eagles yes the vikings cannot get the one seed yes they're going to be either two or three yeah and if you're if you're the vikings you probably you might want to consider uh not playing against the packers in the first round i don't know if you want that two seed probably something you should consider you got to think But, yeah, and then you have the reverse where the Packers probably don't want to play the Niners.
Correct. So, yeah, yeah.
Okay. Seahawks, Jets.
Seahawks, 23. Jets, 6.
The New York football Jets have been eliminated from the playoffs. They were 6-3.
I know that this is... Oh, I had one...
Oh, fuck. I forgot.
I had one last last thing about the Niners I have to bring this up because I think it's a take that's gonna start happening and it's crazy to say that it's coming from the craziest person in our office but Frank the Tank did bemoan that the Dolphins should have drafted Jarrett Stidham I do think or sorry Brock Purdy I do think that that will be a real take that people will say well they should have drafted Brock Purdy Mr. Irrelevant even though I would say every single quarterback in the NFL would look good in this no no offense Brock Purdy except for Carson Wentz except for Carson Wentz would look good in this 49ers offense no offense to Brock Purdy but he is in the best possible situation a quarterback could ever be he is to his credit, he's also making some pretty good throws.
Yes, and he does this thing where he slides back out of the pocket that, I don't know, it probably didn't show up in his scouting report, and he looks awesome doing it, and it always ends up being like a 6'15-yard pass. He's got moxie.
Kyle Shanahan said in preseason he's got the it factor, and I don't know what the it factor is, but I know that when Kyle Shanahan says he likes a quarterback, you should listen to him when he says that. Now, it's going to be interesting next year what happens when Trey Lance gets healthy.
What do you do? Do you stick with Brock Purdy? We're going to start having the conversation soon of how we talk about Tom Brady. Like how could 32 teams not draft this guy? That's what I'm saying.
Frank the Tank is the canary in the coal mine. That take is coming.
He was the first one to it. All right.
I didn't intentionally do this, but I have to reintroduce this game. Seahawks 23, Jets 6.
The New York football Jets have been eliminated from the playoffs. I'm curious to know who got eliminated first, by the way.
Was it the Commanders or the Jets? By the clock. I think...
No. No, no, no.
The Vikings went final after. So, Billy, your team got eliminated first.
Yeah. Sorry.
I feel bad for you as a Jets fan. It's going to be tough.
And Billy, I feel bad for you as well. I know that the joke that is always made whenever a team wins a big game in the regular season, they're like, congrats on the week four Super Bowl.
That actually applies for this Jets season. They won the week nine Super Bowl when they beat the Bills and went to six and three.
They've been one in six since. I think it's even worse.
I think when we beat the Packers. That one was, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Sauce put the cheese head on.
That's when it started. Yeah.
That's when the whole I feel bad for you guys started. Yeah.
Well, no, that was the Thursday night game. Commander's Bears.
I know, but we were coming off. He literally said he felt bad for us as fans because his Jets team was so good and they were heading to the playoffs.
Yeah. They've been eliminated from the playoffs.
I don't know if I said that yet. With a week left.
With a week left, they've been eliminated from the playoffs. Yeah.
Now, how do you think this game plays out if you have Zach Wilson in there? Honestly, I think. Mike Waits.
I want to see if he was. Yeah, go ahead.
I mean, the thing is, Zach Wilson just was a lightning rod for criticism. I'm really trying to figure out.
I like that. You said this take before.
I want to hear it. For the people.
I'm going to dedicate my whole offseason to figuring out what is the reason why quarterbacks are having real problems succeeding in the New York Jets organization. Because, look, we played a former New York Jet quarterback today, and he played pretty freaking well.
Wait, but you said specifically, you said, I really do think it's the New York media that makes the Jets bad. Do you think it's different media that covers the Giants? Well, I think that the lightning rod that is the Jets is the fullback for the Giants because they get Like if you looked at the criticism, I mean, it's a lot more warranted for what was happening.
But I think it did mess with dudes heads. I mean, like, do you think it has anything to do with drafting poorly or coaching or anything? No, it's the very dishonest journalists.
They say they say green Mushnick or whatever his name is. Green team bad.
Yeah. And they just hate the quarterback quarterback.
Terrible person. I think it's one of those things where, depending on the type of person and player you are going into New York, you're going to attract a lot more media attention.
I think we've had a lot of those players. Shouldn't they draft? If you know that, shouldn't you draft someone who can handle it? Definitely.
Or maybe trade for somebody that can handle it. Or find a quarterback that you know.
I think maybe the Giants had that more in mind when they picked a guy like Daniel Jones, who kind of everyone used to comment this, looked like he was a finance bro. As opposed to Zach Wilson, that looks like he's a blue-collar construction.
No, no, no, it looks like he's banging moms. There was just a lot more.
He looks like a finance bro, but it's like his summer internship, his junior year at Goldman Sachs. I don't know.
Wait, Daniel Jones has gotten a ton of criticism. He has, but he's not gotten into as much media scrutiny.
Because he's not as bad. And he also has good answers at the podium.
So is this a Zach Wilson should have banged those moms take? I'm just trying to figure it out. No, I'm just trying to figure out what is the common denominators that's derailing all these quarterbacks.
Then they leave and have success. They might be bad.
I think it's drafting poorly. But what about Sam Darnold? Right, yeah.
He had a good week this week. Geno Smith has had a whole career renaissance.
Sam Darnold, can't you blame him on Adam Gase? And getting mono. Yeah.
True. I mean, like, New York media sniffed that one out.
Yeah, they got him pretty good there. Like, seeing ghosts.
I don't know. I don't know what it is.
I'm going to try to... I think that was Gase, wasn't it? That one was ESPN.
That was running a football. I might do, like, a docuseries.
Like, try to figure out what the hell's going on. So, just so we're clear, the docuseries is the Jets aren't bad.
The media has made them bad. Yeah.
I think the docuseries could just be like a review of their draft choices. Yeah, but the thing is they drafted pretty well this year.
They have drafted well. Very important position.
Maybe the most important position in all of sports. I understand what Billy's saying.
And you should probably understand this too. We are fans of dysfunctional franchises, and a lot of that does have to do with their inability to develop a quarterback.
That's one of the biggest parts. In New York, it's the media.
Big Cat in Chicago, which has no media. It's the wind's fault.
In D.C., it's the swamp. And the practice field.
And the game game field and silver field, too. Yeah.
I'm not standing on that take as something incredulous, but, like, looking at it. Not the right word.
That's okay. Keep going.
No, no. Cook.
What do you think of us meaning? Like, I'm not trying to be, like, that take I said in jest and now we're bringing it up. But, like, it would be funny to figure out what exactly is going on.
I would like to see this. If you were to interview Sam Darnold, Geno Smith, even Mark Sanchez, and just ask them these questions.
Christian Hackenberg. This would actually be a great little video series, maybe thesis.
I would like to read something as well. I might write up a report and then give it to the Jets.
You know what? You should do that, and you have to do that. Now I'm going to do that.

What is wrong with the Jets?

Yeah.

Yeah.

A Billy football investigation.

Partnership with the NTSB.

It's going to be like a PhD.

Yeah, PhD level.

Yeah, it's going to be great.

I do feel bad for you, Billy,

and I'm not saying that just to get back at you for that time you said that to us.

Because I do think this Jets team was better than what they ended up with their record. Their quarterback position was a disaster.
And the silver lining is you did find out Mike White is not the guy, so you don't have to delude yourself. It actually would have been in a long-term play would have been bad for Mike White to win these last two games, get in the playoffs, and be like, Mike White's the guy.
He's a nice player, but he's not the guy. I think he has a long career as a backup.
Maybe a couple of spot starts here where he can electrify everyone. But I do feel bad for you, Billy, because I do think this Jets defense was very good.
And there was a lot of shit talking about the Jets and respecting the Jets. And they have been eliminated from the playoffs.
I hate to have to keep reporting this, but it has to be reported. The New York football Jets have been eliminated from the playoffs.
Did you see what Rappaport reported? What, that they've been eliminated? No, that the Jets aren't going to move on from Zach Wilson. Yeah, I don't know what that means.
They probably are trying to trade him, get some decent value out of there. What happens if he ends up good? They said the same thing about Darnold, and then they traded him.
But what happens if he ends up being good somewhere else? Well, he probably will. I'm going to say no.
I mean, look, Gino Smith, Sam Darnold. Yeah, Sam Darnold, Gino Smith were better than Zach Wilson.
It took Gino Smith like eight years to get good. And Sam Darnold, we don't still know.
I mean, he's had a couple nice games. But, you know, it was – hopefully we went and beat the Dolphins next week, but that actually would be worse draft-wise.
But it will be fun to see what happens. It will be fun to see what happens.
It will be fun to see what happens. We're closing the chapter on this season.
But it was cool. It was fun while it lasted.
So there is something to be said for a bad franchise having a couple months where they're like, we're good. Yeah.
Where you think that you're good. It feels awesome.
It makes the football season go along a lot smoother. You feel better about yourself when your football team is winning.
So I'm happy for Jets fans because of that. Yeah, for September and October.
And also, you have a great scapegoat in Zach Wilson. Yeah, big time.
It's really easy to be like, this dude's the reason why our season sucked, but only because the media made him back. Right, exactly.
So there's double blame. Yeah.
But yeah, 6-3. The very dishonest lying New York media.
And by the way, the one win was against the Bears who were trying to lose, and it was Trevor Simeon. So yeah, it's been bad football.
I know you have that Robert Salah, Coach of the Year ticket. What percentage do you think that might cash down? You never know.
Maybe people put in their votes in October, Hank. I don't know.
I mean, I said it was going to be a coach from New York.

Dable.

You said that?

I think Dable's definitely going to.

Yeah, go back, check the tape.

I said it was either going to be a coach from New York, Dable, or Sala.

But you only bet on one.

I only posted one.

So you did bet on the other.

So can we see the other one?

You bet on both of them.

Can we see the other one?

So, Billy, when you put your bet in and you placed your money on the Giants, what were the odds on that for Brian Dable? I bet on Sala. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
We knew. That's a constructive way of saying I did not bet on Brian Dable.
I said Dable. I said Dable.
But whatever. Anyway.
No, listen. We're giving Billy a lot of shit But honestly It will be interesting To see what happens Because like What if we pick up Lamar Jackson It will be fun to see what happens We could pick up Lamar Jackson Yeah But how is he going to deal with the media I don't think Lamar Jackson Wants to deal with New York media No Absolutely not I mean taxes Tyreek didn't want to come here Maybe some of that Maybe some of that good water would be good for his guts.
Maybe it's taxes. Actually, that might be one of my body paragraphs.
Taxes. Why taxes have impacts on the New York Jets.
Oh, I like that, too. Yeah, it's good.
It's really good. Okay.
That's probably why Sam Darnold was going out in Hoboken. Yeah.
Probably why he was slumming it with 22-year-olds instead of making out with high society people on the Upper East Side.

True.

True.

The Seahawks are still alive.

Pete Carroll's never lost four games in a row with the Seahawks.

They staved that off today.

I mean, they looked a lot better today, and that's a good Jets defense,

and they were all over them.

Never really a doubt.

And now the Seahawks have to win and have the Lions win

for them to get into the playoffs, to get that seventh seed.

Yeah, it could happen.

Thank you. never really a doubt.
And now the Seahawks have to win and have the Lions win for them to get into the playoffs, to get that seventh seed.

Yeah, it could happen.

It could happen.

The Seahawks just kind of keep hanging in there.

Pete Carroll, probably never going to retire.

Probably just going to coach football and look like he's 55

for the rest of his life.

Yep, yep.

I wonder what he's going to do when he does hang it up.

It's because he probably doesn't want to go through a complete rebuild, right? No, and we don't want that brain out there. No.
Free. No.
With no football to tie it down. I don't know what he's going to do.
A lot of free hours. That scares me.
Maybe uncover the world's greatest mysteries. He's probably going to figure out why the media is treating the New York Jets.
That's true. He does have a lot of conspiracies about Jets.
Yes, that's true. All right, last game.
Oh,, actually we'll do Sunday Night Football as well. Packers 41, Vikings 17.
This was an absolute shit kicking. It sucks that I wasn't able to enjoy this because I was in a rock and a hard place where we've been on the Vikings or frauds and then now it seems like Aaron Rodgers is going to actually do this.
I don't know how he keeps doing this, how he keeps getting away with it, but the Packers are in a true win and get in situation week 18 at home against the Lions. It's fucked up.
I just hope they have to play the Niners and get absolutely pumped by them. But fuck, they're playing decent football right now.
The good news for you is like if they don't make the playoffs at all, then you don't get to watch Aaron Rodgers lose in the playoffs.

Yeah, no, it's another banner.

That's actually, like, it's a banner for him in a weird way

if he doesn't make the playoffs.

Yeah.

It's a year without a loss.

It was – this game sucked because I've been nice to Cousins

three times this year.

Somebody tweeted this at me and let me know there were three times

that I believed in Kirk Cousins. Before the Eagles game, before the Cowboys game, and before the Packers game.
So, hand up? You should want me to not believe in the Vikings. Yeah.
The Vikings fans should beg me to just stay away from their team. I'm happy to do that.
It'll probably happen naturally.

But here's some fun stats courtesy of Stat Hole Sports

about their point differential.

The Minnesota Vikings are at 12-4, negative 19

in their total point differential this season.

Since the 1970 merger, the average point differential,

guess what the average point differential is.

For what?

For 12-4 teams. There have been 88 of them.
Let's say plus 75. 119.
Average plus 119. And there are three 12 and 4 teams.
The 49ers, the Cowboys, the Vikings. 49ers plus 148.
Cowboys plus 1455 Vikings minus 19 yeah and the Raiders are minus five this season so the Raiders are 14 points better as the season goes than the Vikings are damn yeah I mean the Vikings they've won 11 one score games they beat the Packers by uh whatever it was like 16 week one and then their four losses are 24 to 7 to Eagles 40 to 3 to the Cowboys 34 23 to Detroit and 41 17 to the Packers when they lose it's bad and it gets ugly and I we've talked about the Vikings so much in this podcast it's It is what it is. I think we're going to be right in the end doesn't take away from being an incredible season and Kevin O'Connell also is very much alive for coach of the year because he took a team that didn't make the playoffs last year to an NFC North title but yeah they got absolutely smoked in this game and I love whenever a guy talks shit and backs it up and J Jair Alexander did exactly that, calling week one a fluke.
Completely shut down Justin Jefferson. He had one catch for 15 yards.
He also, like, lost his mind on the sideline. Did you see that when he tried to hit him with a helmet and ended up hitting the ref? Yeah, Justin Jefferson.
Yeah. Took his helmet off, tried at him.
Because he was so pissed off that Jair Alexander tried to gritty. He grittied on him.
Yeah. Which you're allowed to do.
You are. That's the point.
That is the double-edged sword of coming up with an awesome celebration is that people can do it right back to you in your face. Yeah.
And that usually happens. So yeah, Jefferson took his helmet off, tried to smash it on him and just missed, hit the ref in the back.
That was tough. Shout out to Vikings fans out there because there's one guy on Reddit.
Hank sent this to the group chat. Yeah.
I love this theory. There's a Vikings fan on Reddit that's suggesting that the Packers overwatered the middle of the field.
That would only affect the Vikings players. Slow down the Vikings.
Yep. But not the Packers.
Wait, they play on the same field? They play on the same field, but Big Cat, you don't understand. It was covered in water and slopping wet, and Green Bay hasn't received any precipitation since December 23rd.
Wow. So this guy, Glass Cherry 425, thinks that they hose down the field to only their advantage because you could see it drying as the game went on, and Jair knew that he only had to go to the outside because Justin Jefferson wouldn't cut across the middle of the field.
So it's completely tilted, NFL rigged. At maximum, it was borderline cheating, according to this guy.
It's dirty, dirty move by the Packers, according to Glass Cherry. They had time to prepare their tactics.
He wants answers for why the field was slopping wet. I have a theory on why.
Why? I think that they have a sprinkler system installed. Probably.
And I think that the system, it sprayed water on the grass. Honestly, if they did do this, that's like an incredible move.
It's classic Packers. I mean, it's just, I have no problem with it.
If you're like, hey, we're going to make it slower for ourselves, and hope this just affects them more than it affects us, that kind of rocks.

Well, so what I'm hearing here is there was no precipitation since December 23rd.

Right.

And it's a grass field, right?

Yeah.

What does grass need to grow?

Water. They were probably watering their field to make the grass grow.

That is true.

And trust me, it could go way deeper than that, but that's my general take on it. Wow.
Okay. So a legal game Packers didn't actually win.
You can make that argument. I can't believe the Packers are going to do this again.
It's so, it's so fucked up. They're going to lose in the first round because what depends on who they play.
Well, they're probably going to play against the 49ers. I know.
But what if they play the Vikings? But imagine how satisfying it's going to be when the 40. Oh, yeah.
No, I know. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. No, no.
If they play the Niners, Cali boy, I'm going to be a great game. I'm going to be I'm going to be all locked in for that game.
But if they somehow draw the Vikings, that that's going to bother me to no end because then they'd go play the Cowboys, the one seed, and they could beat the Cowboys, the one seed. The one seed, yeah.
Home field throughout. Right.
Yeah, I mean, Mike McCarthy is going to be on all sorts of tilt playing against his former team. Exactly.
They beat the Cowboys already this year. So, yeah.
I know that they'll lose the Niners, but even them being in scares me a little bit. But they're going to play the game in Santa Clara.
It's going to be Aaron Rodgers. Basically a home game for Aaron Rodgers.
Hopefully a night game. He's probably going to have all his family.
He might have some friends that come out to the game this is going to suck they're going to go on a run god damn it I think we're good I think we're in the clear he is doing the thing where he knew that they were going to win this game and he knows he's going to beat the Lions when he said it the other, not all of them are above 500. Talking about the Lions.

All right, fine.

Fuck it.

I'm just nervous.

Everyone Packers fans know I'm nervous.

This is going to because you just never know.

You just fucking never know.

Although this guy's won the same amount of NFC championship games as Rex Grossman.

That's a fact.

So it'll be fine.

It will all work out.

It'll be fine.

Right? It'll be good.

Right, Max? Fine. Hank, just this devilish grin knowing that my pain is about to come.
If you're a Vikings fan, you have this as a spin zone. This was from C.
Hug D's Nuts. Okay.
He tweeted this at me. He's a reliable source, I think.

A Vikings loss eliminated the Saints.

The Vikings could have done this on purpose as retribution for the 2010 Bounty Gate.

Oh, okay.

So you have your revenge.

There it is.

So congratulations, Vikings.

Way to go.

Lions just have to win.

I'm also rooting for Jared, so your pain is my pain.

All right, yeah.

Lions have to win.

The world wants the Lions in the playoffs.

They don't want the Packers.

We do.

I don't want the Packers. We do.
I gave up everything to get the Lions in. God damn it.
Detroit Don, we might have to fly him out for the stream. Imagine that.
Superfan just going crazy on the stream. Yeah, I might have to make a phone call about that.
That would be intense. All right.
Last game Sunday football. I think we should fly Commander Dale from Detroit Urban Survival Training out.
Okay. Can we do background checks on all these super fans just before? Yeah, because there's no cycle.
We didn't do a background check on you. Billy, if we background check on everyone that worked here, half the office would be unemployed.
That's a Pandora's box you do not want to open, my friend. Come on, Billy.
Use your head. All right.
Last game, Sunday Night Football. Steelers, 16.
Ravens, 13. That was an awesome game.
We watched the whole second half. Kenny Pickett, he's a guy.
Like, that drive was fucking awesome. It was guy material.
It really was, and he was making all the throws, and Najee Harris looked awesome, TJ Watt. The Steelers, somehow, Mike Tomlin.
Coach of the year? He just never fucking goes under .500, and they might get to the playoffs. Like, it's not the patriots the jets beat the dolphins the steelers win week 18 the steelers are in the fucking playoffs everything is is falling into line for them they're going to end up nine and eight they're going to get to the playoffs and this was a good thing i think for kenny pickett if he's able to like you could make the argument for some other teams that getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round is not good like Hank is probably not looking forward to watching his Patriots lose in the first round but in this case if it's a rookie quarterback Kenny Pickett he had his moments where he looked shaky where people were saying okay we need to be starting Mitch Trubisky instead of Kenny Pickett I think this is great for Kenny Kenny's like that like that second half that he had today.
There were some bad parts, but I think he learned just like just throw the ball to either Pickens or Fryer Muth. Yeah.
And then you'll probably be able to figure out from there. All right.
And your defense is good enough where if you scored 19 points, you're probably going to win most of the games that you're in. Yes.
Yes. All right.
Let's play a little whose line is it anyway for these three games for the AFC playoffs. So Patriots at Bills.
I'm going to say Bills by eight. I was going to say six and a half.
Eight and a half. That could change, obviously, because they're playing against the Bengals on Monday Night Football.
Jets at Dolphins. Who's starting for the Dolphins? Not Tua.
Not Teddy, right?

Skyler.

Is it going to be Skyler? Jets minus one and a half.

Jets minus three.

Jets plus three.

Whoa.

So maybe they think Tua might start.

That's that New York media.

That is.

Hating on the Jets.

He could start maybe.

And then the last one we have is where's the Steelers game?

They might not have posted it because they just won.

Yeah, they don't have it. So the Steelers play the Browns, correct? Is that in Pittsburgh? Yes, it is.
Man, I'm rooting for the Steelers to make the playoffs. That would be fun for Kenny.
He's our guy. He is our guy.
Hank, you are too, right? Yeah, definitely. It's going to be – I'm very excited for week 18.
I know that most of the playoff seeds have been clinched, but the fact that we have this many games that are going to mean something is going to be pretty awesome. Yeah.
It is great. It is great.
I love football. I love football so much.
And football gets better every year. Yeah.
Jake, you want to tell us real quick who's playing on Saturday? Yeah. So we have the double flex Saturday.
It's going to be Chiefs Raiders and the AFC South title, Jags Titans, which means my flex of the year with your assists. Look only 50-50 because it looks like it's going to be Lions Packers or Ravens Bengals.
Right. Ravens Bengals or Lions Packers.
Yeah, the Bengals do win the AFC North with a win on Monday night. Right, so if they win, I think we're in the clear.
This game is going to rule so hard. Yeah.
I can't wait. It's the most wins in a combined Monday night football game since 1997.
That's pretty much ever. Yeah.
Also, so all the Sunday games are TBD. I think they're going to make all like the relevant games at four.
Yeah. So one o'clock slate is probably pretty weak.
It's going to be a long night for us. That's fine.
I can do it. That's why we train all season.
Also, we won't have to talk about any of the 1 o'clock games. Right.
It's going to be a late start. I welcome a challenge.
But I'm going to bet all the 1 o'clock games just so we're clear. I also have a basketball game at 2, so it works out.
Oh, okay. They probably did the schedule for you? Exactly.
Yeah, nice. Who are you calling? Manhattan again.
I guess Niagara. Greg Paul is coming to town.

Oh, nice.

Yeah.

Okay.

Legend.

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Football guy of the week, Billy. So, last week's winner in a big upset was the Wobbly Browns fan.
I thought it was going to be Matthew Marvin, the guy doing the pass sets in the parking lot outside the 12 lines. I love Wobbly Browns fan.
Yeah. But he won.
Okay. So, now for this week's.
They should paint him at midfield instead of the elf. You said that last week.
Did I? Yeah, it's a long football season. I think they should.
Maybe he is an elf. I repeat it because it's a fact.
Our first nominee is Blaine Gabbert, quarterback for the Buccaneers. He apparently, after a helicopter crash, hopped on a ski-doo and rescued some of the guys who were almost drowning.
That rocks. I love Blaine Gabbert, man.
Holy shit. He is a real American hero.
What a badass. Superhero moves.
Yeah. You know what? That's great vibes for the Bucs.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
That's an all-time backup quarterback move right there. Big-time karma points.
Blaine of the year. Yeah.
Bl Plan of the year. Our second nominee is Daniel Jones.
So Coach Dable said he had Daniel Jones break down the team, and when he did, he gave everyone an extra day off, something he didn't give permission for first. So Daniel Jones just commandeered the team and gave everyone an extra day off.
I don't like that. Justin Herbert said you guys should be crying that you get that day off.
I don know just put it in here it was pretty hilarious but i mean he just literally alphaed almost the whole organizational chain of commands just could use a guy like that yeah third nominee is stacy collins penn state special teams coordinator who a video uh aired of him who basically he uses himself as a tackling dummy for his players yeah during, and he's just getting laid out. And he's like 70, right? Yeah.
It's not that what he's doing is that physical and that crazy, but he's an older gentleman just getting totally wrecked. Human body craves contact.
Exactly. And our last nominee is Steve Sarkeesian before his bowl game, Alamo Bowl.
Look, a lot of people didn't like this.

I don't know if this is a football guy.

He was amped up as fuck.

If I saw my head coach ready to fight a guy right before the game.

What happened?

Yeah, Billy, explain what happened.

So basically, he was in the tunnel.

They're waiting.

They're getting amped up to run out into the field.

There was a coordinator producer who was putting his hands on him.

It was like a field supervisor that was making sure the team didn't run out. Barely brushed him.
He gave him a cup. There was a cup there.
It was enough content. But when you're in that zone, when you're hyped up before a game like that, getting pumped and anything.
I don't know. There's a lot of emotions before a game.
It gets pretty testy. That's pretty hype.
That just shows his mindset. It could have been anything to set him off like that.
That just shows. No, they lost.
Yeah. By double digits as a favorite.
It was pretty ridiculous. But if I was a player and I saw my coach going nuts like that before a game, I'd be like, oh, yeah, we're going off.
My coach is like testy as hell. Like, let's go.
There were a lot of rumors when Sark was up in Washington that he actually didn't mind. A lot of strangers, hands at different places.
I just saw it as more a guy. The way he yelled at him, I was like, that guy is just doing his job.
And Sark is on a power trip. And I think his exact words is don't ever fucking touch me again.
So there were a couple elements to it. The first was just him putting his hand up.
Yeah. okay on the field there was like a there was like a grab there was that's actually that's fine grab as someone who's milking him but here's the thing as someone who has breasts and sometimes people will touch them i don't love it but at the end of the day that's my fault for having the breast would you see how he was dressed yeah he probably was saying if i was asking for it if i did some push-ups and got a hard body I wouldn't care that people grab my breasts I mean it might be one of those things where he comes out up to the guy after the game I don't know if he did this and was just like yo sorry it was just pregame atmosphere like a lot of crazy shit happens before I'm gonna get players get into fights like think about it Sark doesn't strike me as a guy that's like my bad amends with no no but think, before games, tons of stuff happens like that where people are on edge, and it just shows big game atmosphere.
It wasn't really that big of a game. I guess it was a decent bulldog.
I think this also is one of those situations where you don't, and this is not your fault, but you don't fully know Steve Sarkisian. True.
And the stories and his career. He's kind of a psycho.
Yeah, a big-time psycho. And there was, you could see, like, a switch flip on Sarkeesian.
Right, it was, like, angry. Where he went into, like, if he had a knife in his hand, he would have stabbed the guy.
It was rage. Hey, put him on the list.
He's on the list. It is a football guy.
Let's let the people decide. Oh, and this last one, this is a throwback football guy of the week.
The U.S. Army, basically they – this was pretty cool.
Ran across this little photo. Basically, they had a prototype grenade.
So you know how like the classic grenade is sort of baseball shape. So U.S.
soldiers, when they're throwing it, had a little relative familiarity. Basically, they also made a almost Nerf football grenade.
So this prototype was just a Nerf football with a giant bomb in the middle that U.S. soldiers are supposed to throw at tanks.
Essentially as a recruiting tool specifically for Billy. That's awesome.
To join the military. That would be pretty sick.
Imagine that. That would be sick.
Slinging. Imagine we invade Iraq again in 10 years.

Josh Allen, put him on the front lines.

He just slings like a 70-yard bomb.

Saddam Hussein's son catches it and it explodes.

Yeah.

He's sick.

Yeah.

All right, good job, Billy.

Hell of fantasy points.

I like that.

That's a good varied group of football guys.

Wait, so was the last one just the United States military?

Well, that's a throwback.

That's just like a cool story. Got it.
Okay. Ready for who's back of the week? Yeah.
I'll do college football for mine. You want to start with that? I was going to say we didn't talk about it before, but we should talk about the college football playoffs.
Sure. They were awesome.
I had a great time. It was Michigan TCU was one of the most chaotic games I've ever watched.
So, was it the end of the third quarter slash start of the fourth quarter where we had 49 points in, like, four minutes of game time? It was like the 10-minute mark of the third quarter. All hell broke loose.
Yeah, I think if you go all the way back to the 10-minute mark, at like 57 points it was chaos at the end of that it was incredible it was like as soon as one team as soon as tcu felt like they were letting michigan get back into it there would be just a guy breaking through in the secondary for tcu and you're up 14 points it was also just it was basically anytime michigan decided they were going to blitz tcu would score an ADR touchdown. Yeah.
Because they just couldn't cover everyone. And Michigan did get screwed in that first half call.
I don't know what the fuck the review was. He scored a touchdown.
Yes. And then they fumbled on the goal line the next play, but that was a touchdown.
I still think that TCU, the season they've had, and it felt like they could keep scoring if the game went on for another five hours, they just would have kept scoring. Yeah.
So I'm not going to say that Michigan should have won. I just am acknowledging the fact they got screwed.
But holy fuck, TCU just made Michigan play a Big 12 game. Yeah, and it was just back and forth.
I think if they played that game 100 times, you wouldn't have that many points scored more than three or four times. Yeah, and to match what Big Cat said, at the end of the game, the very last play, Michigan was trying their hardest to extend the game, try to get a touchdown if they could.
Their player got tackled. It was pretty clearly a targeting penalty.
Yeah. The guy from TCU came in high, hit him in the back of the neck, back of the head, and the referees took a look at it.
And this is one of those situations where common sense will tell you this game should not be called on this play. Like, Michigan was not going to win.
TCU should win this game. But by the letter of the law, it was definitely a targeting penalty that the refs clearly saw in the replay and just said, I kind of don't want to call it right now because it doesn't make a difference.
Also, Michigan just couldn't have had a worse end of the game like trying to get something going for even a Hail Mary spot. Yeah, it was a bad last possession, and so I think it didn't really affect...
Michigan wasn't going to win that game. But by the light of the law, they should have gotten that targeting penalty.
Yes, and they should have scored that first time. But TCU, I mean, there is a lot of college football fans who thought they didn't deserve to be in the college football playoff, which was crazy.
I've been standing on the soapbox for them for the last month. Like, they ran a gauntlet of a regular season undefeated.
They lost by three in overtime in the Big 12 championship game. I know that they don't have the talent that some of these other teams have.
Like if you look at the composite talent ranking, they are a true outlier. If they win the national title, it will be the least, you know, highly recruited or the least talented on just purely paper team by a large margin because it's just always like whoever has the top 10 recruits class will end up being the national champion i don't count them out in this game against georgia they are fucking whatever it is they just the hypno toad i don't know what it is they're just good and max d Max Duggan's a fucking baller.
Yeah. I'm going to bet on them.

Yeah.

They do seem like Team of Destiny vibes.

They've got, like, tiger blood.

They don't die ever.

They've been pushed to the point of just collapse so many times this year.

In this game, they got off to a lead, which was crazy.

You never see them do that because they're usually falling behind like 10, 14 points early.

And then they have to battle back and dig themselves out of a hole.

There is something to be said about that, too, being tested like that.

Because when you get to the college football playoff, a lot of the teams are the bullies in their conference.

And they don't play more than one or two really tight games all year.

TCU's played pretty much every game. I mean, they kicked the shit out of, I want to say, Oklahoma State.
And they beat Texas pretty good, even though that was not a huge margin. Every other game has been just crazy.
And back and forth and digging themselves out of holes and late game heroics. So they're tested.
Max Duggan is awesome. Yeah, he's awesome.

He's playing so well right now.

They do seem like Team of Destiny.

They've got the Mike Leach thing going for him too.

Yeah.

You know, Sonny Dykes is like, that's his guy.

I love Sonny Dykes too.

Yeah.

He's a fun coach.

Yeah.

Fun coach.

I think they were like plus 900 at the start of the year

or something like that.

It's probably worse.

Yeah, it was crazy.

Yeah.

They were supposed to finish one of the worst teams in the Big 12 coming off a five and seven year. Gary Patterson has to be like, well, I guess I really did suck at the end there.
Because you don't see teams do this. And the whole story is incredible.
I'm very happy for TCU. Michigan, I don't know.
I think that still is the winningest winningest Michigan team of all time I don't think any Michigan team's gotten to 13 wins so and Harbaugh has them in a good spot but you have to feel disappointed the fact that you're an eight-point favorite going into the college football playoff playing incredible football and then that game happens here's here's the craziest part Michigan had uh three interceptions on – or sorry, was it three interceptions and a fumble? Did they have three interceptions? Or it was two interceptions and a fumble. Two interceptions and a fumble, so three turnovers.
How many turnovers did Michigan have in their other 13 games? Ten. Seven.
Damn. That's how crazy that game was.
Yeah. Michigan played a certain style.
They took care of the football. They leaned on teams.
They played great defense all year. And they get into this game and all hell broke loose.
And you just knew that second half, like, there was nothing they could do to bottle that up. You can't.
You'd have to just restart the game another day to figure out how to stop what was happening in that game. There's something to be said for a team like that with tcu that will just play crazy yeah and they'll they'll

draw you into a fucked up fight and beat you with experience because they're like we've played some

of the most fucked up football games that you'll ever see we know how to do this crazy shit you

you don't you're clearly in you're you're very good at playing formal football we're just gonna

fuck with your brain and put you in scenarios that you never even dreamed of yes and that uh one last thing about this game,

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the, the, the, the, had, that long touchdown he had, where he did the little fake jog and caught the linebacker or cornerback, was one of the coolest moves ever. Do you remember that play? like, who did that in the NFL recently? He hit him with a little slow step fake jog, completely stopped in his tracks, and then boom, gone.
Yeah. I think somebody did that against Diggs, and it worked to perfection.
It was such a cool move. And then the other game was even better, I would say, because the Michigan-TCU game was chaos, and you kind of like this, what are we even watching at this point Ohio State Georgia was just a great game of two teams that were so evenly matched I mean Ohio State for as much shit as Ryan Day's gotten in the last month and he deserved a lot of it because he got whooped by Michigan again like there's no moral victories but he kind of answered that they can play on that level and it, they might have like a Michigan problem, but they don't have a problem in terms of competing for national championships.
CJ Stroud, that was an all-time performance. This game had one of the craziest finishes when you take into account what was happening at the time in the world.
Where I think everyone was looking at the clock and being like, wait, am I going to be able to change over to a countdown channel to see when it's going to strike midnight? It's going to go to 2023. I bet you some couples broke up because of managing the television channel.
There are definitely some big fights out there. Our guy John Rich was live tweeting.
He took the remote at the party he was at, and he got caught by the host of the party with like two minutes left. Oh, and was like getting away remote channel put that shit back on anderson cooper yeah right we got to watch what ryan seacrest is doing oh my god had a great party it was so funny watching right the the live cut in at halftime when ryan seacrest like here's who we got coming up it's like dude no one cares we don't care this game rules this this is the the timing of the ending was so that they snapped the ball in 2022 and when they blew the final whistle after the kick missed it was 2023 yeah didn't they switch these games so that they weren't on new year's eve or am i crazy they did but now because it's sunday they ran up to sunday so nfl sunday they didn't want to compete with that it's much better not on new year's eve i agree.
Because there's probably a lot of people that just straight up had to miss the game that would have watched it otherwise. So I would agree if I was just not a loser who had no life and I was sitting at home anyway.
I was just sitting there thinking, I remembered when it was on New Year's Eve, and I did have a life, and I went to a New Year's Eve party. It was Alabama-Michigan State, and that was one of the worst college football playoff games i've ever watched like oklahoma and being like fuck like we i burned all this like hey we got to be at a place with a tv for this like fuck i think i was just so happy that this game was played that was like one of the lowest rated bowl games ever i think that in washington alabama so it was i mean the whole game was incredible.
CJ Stroud was incredible. Stetson Bennett.
I, he, I thought he got over this cause it was almost identical to the national championship game where there were moments in the first half where like, does Stetson Bennett just like, is this moment too big for him? He's fucking 25 years old. Like what is going on right now? And then when they needed him the most in the fourth quarter, he had three drives and it was he's like oh yeah Stetson Bennett's pretty fucking good he is actually very good and I think he's gotten faster over the years yeah he's moving around better in the ugly crier very ugly crier after the game and and we should say that Kirby Smart now goes down in history is the greatest timeout of all time the timeout for the fake punt i do i do appreciate ohio state fans still saying that it happened after the the um the snap even though they have they literally have a simulcast espn you know does it on like 17 channels they had the simulcast where they're following the coaches and then the game is in the right box and you can see him call the timeout i don't know solid like five seconds before snap.
The ref was a little slow on it. It was a little slow.
And the graphics department was slow. It goes down.
I mean, I tweeted last night, Chris Weber, worst timeout ever. Kirby Smart, that has to be the best timeout ever because the game probably ends there if Ohio State gets that first down on the fake punt.
They then punt, and they're able to come back. It was a genius, genius play.
Yeah. It was an awesome end to that game.
It was a life-affirming Saturday of college football. I love it.
Some people were saying that the Alabama-Kansas State game was going to be the best game by far all day. Well, Iowa-Kentucky was pretty fucking awesome.
I want to just give a lot of respect to what Iowa does just as a state and as a football program. And anybody that spends their time watching Iowa football all year, you should be eligible for USAA if you sit down and you watch every single Iowa football snap because they find weird ways to win, but then you go back and you think about their season and you have no idea how they scored a single point.
Yeah, so Kentucky's offense on Saturday, these are their drives. Punt, punt, punt, punt, pick six, punt, punt, pick six, punt, punt, punt, turnover on downs, punt, turnover on downs, respect.
I mean, insane. Respect to Iowa.
Wave to the kids.

Wave to the kids.

You knew when it was 14-0 that the game was over.

And, yeah, but, yeah, Bryce Young was incredible.

He was dropping dimes.

I don't want to say that.

I mean, watching Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud, it's like,

these guys are going to be really fucking good in the NFL.

Yeah.

And C.J. Stroud using his legs, which he –

it's insane that – I don't know if Ryan Day told him or if it was a game plan, like Ryan day called a perfect game. CJ Stroud does not run, even though he's fast.
And he, he was a wet. He should, he should start running a lot more.
Maybe they were just saving it for that moment. But I was, I walked away being like Ohio state, like again, you never are happy or you're never like happy after a loss like that.
But at least all those questions that were happening in the last month after you lost to Michigan, you kind of answered them all being like, yeah, we're still an elite program that's top five and can compete for national championships. I think what it comes down to, and you know more about the Big Ten than I do, so stop me if I'm wrong on this, but I feel like Michigan was designed specifically, they were re-engineered to beat Ohio State, to win that game.
And then the rest of that division that they play in is kind of dog shit, so they're able to use their superior recruiting and bigger people generally to just shove everybody around. but they were built to beat ohio state they ran into problems with tcu because tcu does not play a style of football that michigan was designed to beat ohio state is designed to beat everybody else except for michigan yeah no ohio state's definitely like the the way they've they've built their program up it's to compete for national titles the only thing i would say is that mich that Michigan, I wouldn't say Michigan was designed to win a national title too, just in a different way.
In the 1980s. No, no, but they're not like an Iowa or Wisconsin.
They're a real deal and they run a real offense. That game against TCU, I throw my hand up up I'm like you can't it just got like it got crazy you can't if they play that game again I think TCU can still win it but I just like I said the turnovers seven turnovers all year and then they had three in one night things got out of hand it just so I wouldn't say like I wouldn't it's not some existential crisis that Jim Harbaugh has to, like, figure out.
Like, they just got beat, and it was a crazy game, and they were set up. I think they would have given Georgia a good game.
You know, they obviously could beat Ohio State. So, I think Michigan's right there on the doorstep of winning a national title.
It's just hard to win these college football playoff games. And now people are going to throw a bag at Harbaugh, too.
Yeah. Denver's batting their eyes at them.
Colts.

Colts are going to bat their eyes at them.

Yeah.

It'll be interesting what happens.

But yeah,

great night in college football.

Also just a great night to just shut up any losers who are like NIL and

transfer portal.

Like yeah,

transfer portal.

If you look probably helps that like those teams and,

and makes everyone a little bit more competitive.

Yeah.

I mean,

college football has us by the balls.

Yeah. We're going to watch.
I love it. You can put on on New Year's Eve.
You can put it literally at the stroke of midnight. And we're going to watch it now.
There's something about college football. I know I love NFL.
But when college football is at its peak, I think there's nothing. It's kind of borderline romantic.
Like when I watch a great college football game. It just feels like you're watching history.
I think because there's more variables about what can happen well it's the bands it's the it's the it's the history it's just everything yeah it's something about college football it's just i don't know it's nfl is it's kind of like what troops told us when he said that you know nba is a business nfl's business football's a sport like there is a little bit of that with college football versus the other leagues. And people say, well, NIL has made it a business.
But NFL is just everything. You wouldn't get the TCU-Michigan game in an NFL playoff game because everyone's just better and safeties don't make mistakes and guys don't run for 80-yard touchdowns.
I mean, the Kansas City-Buffalo game was pretty close. That was close, but it was also...
remember, that game was not that – Fourth quarter. Yeah, it got away for like five minutes.
But that was also one of the – you could have that happen pretty much any night in a college football game. All right, Hank, you're Who's Back.
Sorry. It was a longer Who's Back.
We had to talk about college football because it was awesome. And Who's Back is Jumpsuit January.
Yeah, let's go. You like it? It is nice is nice you guys kind of abandoned jumpsuit january a few years ago wait wait what do you mean by you guys you two both i never abandoned jumpsuit january i said specifically jumpsuit january is about being comfortable and sometimes i'm comfortable in jeans i will wear jeans at some point this this january hank i have never i just will jumpsuit january i there's there's a i've already lost i've already had my phone fall out of my like six times.
There'll be a random Thursday I'll show up in jeans because I want to be comfortable and hold on to my wallet. I fucking ride or die for Jumpsuit January.
It's my favorite. It's birthday month, Hank.
I love this. I love this shit.
I live through this. I don't know if you were going to mention that.
It's birthday month. Happy birthday to us.
It is birthday month. Oh, thank you for remembering.
It's also January 6th. Yeah.
Big month for all of us. Well, it's my birthday.
And is your birthday? Yeah, my birthday's in January. What's the date? 13th.
I knew that. It's birthday month.
Yeah. I don't really like birthday month anymore.
It's birthday month, baby. How old are you going to be? 24? Yeah, dude.
Whoa. Billy.
24. That actually hurts you a little bit because I feel like the Billy Riders.

I'm a Billy Rider.

That's why you're here.

Always like, he's a 22-year-old kid.

Leave him alone.

Yeah.

I might have to grow up.

No, don't do that, Billy.

Don't do that, Billy.

We won't be able to.

Billy, you're not going to do that.

Yeah, Billy, grow up.

Grow up.

I might, yeah.

Starting now.

You're an adult. January 13th.
Billy, you just have to wear a that. Yeah, Billy, grow up.
Grow up. I might, yeah.
Starting now, you're an adult.

January 13th.

Billy, you just have to wear a suit and a briefcase.

Yeah.

Pack your lunch.

Go to work every day.

Oh, no.

January 13th is Friday the 13th.

I know.

You're going to fuck up big time.

And it's also going to be a Friday for Billy's birthday.

Yeah, Billy.

Holy shit.

Billy, you're going to go out so hard.

We won't see you for Wild Card Weekend on that Saturday.

That's going to be St. Patrick's Day all over again.
Yeah, well, we're not doing so hard. We won't see you for Wild Card Weekend on that Saturday.
That's going to be St. Patrick's Day

all over again. Yeah, well, we're not doing anything on that

Saturday, right? What's Wild Card Weekend?

Working. Yeah, there will be, but that's okay.

The Jets got eliminated from the playoffs.

We're not doing anything except for work.

Yeah. Sweet.
Yeah.

So you'll be good.

No, Hank, I love Jumpsuit January. I've never given up

on it. It's my favorite month of the year.
It's so comfortable.

I thought about doing Suit January

to kind of play with

the suit joke, but that's also

way too much.

You should wear whatever makes you comfortable.

Jumpsuits make me comfortable.

I got too serious when everyone's like, oh, that's not a jumpsuit.

Oh, like it's a sweatshirt and sweatpants.

So what?

People took it too seriously.

Just wear what makes you comfortable.

Yeah. I also have no full kit, so.
I'll get you some. I got you, bro.
Don't worry about it. I remember when I got you guys jumpsuits for Christmas and they stayed in the studio for the whole year until Billy cleaned it and took them.
Do you want to tell the whole story? Sure. You got me a 3XL and also the fucking detector when you leave Macy's was still attached to it.
Did you steal it? No. I think you stole it.
You left that part out. I don't know that it was a 3XL.
It was so big. Billy still has it.
I took the thing off it. And you gave me a gift that literally is like, hey, I stole this for you.
I did not steal it. But it had it on it.
Okay. You still didn't wear it.

Actually, I would appreciate a stolen gift

more than I would appreciate a gift that you bought for me.

If you steal something, then I know that you put your heart into it.

I was swimming in it.

You were basically like, here, fat ass, take this stolen gift.

Walk around with this so you can maybe go to jail.

You know what's the worst part?

When I took it off the thing, some of the ink got on it. Yeah, of course.

So now everyone, whenever I

can't wear it out because people would think I stole it.

Yeah. Sick gift.

Wow, you made us all look like criminals. I'm gonna get you

a jumpsuit January gift.

I'm excited. Okay, I am too.

It's gonna be great.

It's gonna be the best jumpsuit you've ever worn.

I'm sure. Okay.
Will you

wear it up in the C-suite?

Yeah, if it comes in January.

There's a dress code on the third floor.

Jeans Friday?

There's not.

All right, BFT.

My Who's Back of the Week.

I have two, if that's okay.

Yeah.

First is fantasy drama.

Specifically, Jerry O'Connell's fantasy drama.

Uh-oh.

So somehow, someway, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry has gotten our team into the finals of our league. Somehow, someway.
He's a genius. He's a beast.
So Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, if we win this, we, as a group, get $25,000. Fuck yes.
Because it's a big money league. So we've told Jerry, and it all comes down to tonight.
So we have Joe Burrow on our team, and whoever it is we're playing, I forget who it is. What's the score? It has Josh Allen.
We're down by 10. Oh.
So we need Joe Burrow to out-duel Josh Allen on Monday Night Football and get 10 more points. If that happens, we get 25 grand boys, and we're inviting Jerry O'Connell to New York, and we're going to take him out on a shopping spree.
And also a football watching spree. We were talking about it last night in the group chat.
I want Jerry, I want to get him a first-class ticket to New York to watch NFL football with us. He can pick whichever Saturday, Sunday, whatever he wants to do.
Sometime in the playoffs, just sit and watch football. I want to go.
I want to do model wife, not invited.

I want to know.

Ew, gross.

Yeah.

I want to go do a Brewster's millions things where we just go to a toy store.

Yeah.

And just Jerry just decides what kind of toys to buy.

Yeah.

Until he spends 25 grand.

We should actually just do that at like a Lids or somewhere we can get jerseys.

Oh, Lids would be.

See how much jerseys you can get.

Yeah.

Claire's.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like your hibachi idea. Oh, yeah.
We should get. Yeah.
We're gonna go to... We'll rent out a hibachi place.
Oh, hibachi would be good. Or Margaritaville.
Imagine us all in just random NFL jerseys at a hibachi place, just the boys. That'd be great.
Hot topic. How fast do you think that, Jerry...
Would it be possible to spend $25,000 in Spencer's gifts? Yes. I want to find out.
You might have to legally buy one of the workers. That's fine.
But yes. We can make that happen.
Yes. I'm going to say yes.
What do you say, Billy? What, Billy? I'm pretty sure they have life-size dolls in there. Oh, yeah.
Life-size dolls. You just end up with 25 life-size dolls.
Life-size dolls. Yes, life-size dolls.
All right, what's your other hot seat? Andrew Tate. Top G.
Top G. My other hot seat, or my who's back, is just being in really good shape because it's New Year's.
Yep. And we are officially starting to become a hot bod podcast right now.
Hard bod. Join me, hard bod.
I'm going buns of anarchy. So is so is that is that hot bod or no we're going to be hard bodies in 2023 so hank has the peloton i'm getting back on the peloton all are welcome to join buns of anarchy we're riding tonight before monday night football i'm gonna we're gonna ride at seven so we're gonna post follow buns of anarchy on twitter so we'll post the official schedule but the bottom line is this podcast is going to be fucking sexy as shit.
Yeah. By the end of January.
We're getting Super Bowl abs. Yeah.
I'm going to be hard body city. Max and I are about to fucking.
We're going to be beast. My strategy.
Hank doesn't believe me. My strategy is just eat.
Eat. Kava every day.
And then ride on a Peloton. That's about it.
Yep. Yep.
No bad food no no we're going healthy we got is the teamwork thing also stay hydrated stay hydrated that's very important what are we doing next sunday salads yeah what does that look greek chirping chicken just chicken chicken chicken but it comes with a lot of pita bread. Yeah, nervous bird.
We got to throw the pita bread out.

That's probably why Carson Wentz is nervous in the pocket.

He's just eating fast. He eats too much duck.

That just got shot.

Yeah.

So the last thing, it just has super.

He's got wounded duck energy.

Yeah.

Holy fuck.

Yeah.

Whoa.

All right, Billy.

Now who's back is Poe, the Ravens mascot. Yes.
He was never injured. No, he was.
No, I saw what happened tonight. He hopped up? He hopped up.
I don't think he was ever injured. I think it was a long con.
Well, he did get hurt the first time. I think that was all a show.
I think it was all built up for this moment because they brought him out for this game, the highest energy game of the year. I just think that they rigged it.
I don't think that – And they also introduced two other mascots this year, so it seemed like they were ready for it. That's all I'm saying.
It was a great Kevin Nash bit. Stay woke.
Jake, finish us off. My who's back is John Cena.
He wrestled for the first time in more than a year. His streak is now every year he's had a match since 2000.
Wow. He beat the buzzer.
Wow. It's interesting that right when he wrestled, Barbara Walters died.
Let's not talk about that. I know.
That's what I'm saying. It seemed like we can joke around all we want and we can do our little wrestling thing, but let's have some respect for a dead journalist icon.
Agreed. I thought it was in poor taste that John Cena continued to wrestle.
Agreed. Okay.
That's the show. Drum roll.
So, the grand finale. Here's the grand finale.
So here's what's at stake. Everyone has followed along.
We said, Hank, he gets till the new year to win the lottery ball machine, which have you ever won it? No. Okay.
Just wanted to make sure. The Jets are eliminated from the playoffs, and have you ever won this? I have not.
Okay. I have never won.
So if Hank wins this one, PFT and I owe him $5,000 combined. If he doesn't, he owes us $5,000.

Now, we talked about it before.

I don't really want to take your money.

I do want to take his money, but I'm not going to because it'll make me seem like a nice guy.

Yeah.

Well, I just don't want to take his money because, listen, he's got golf to play.

I don't.

I'm not sure. No, I'm down.

Listen, I'm not.

I don't want to sound like I'm getting out of the bed.

No, no, you're not.

You're not.

I want it specific.

You're not.

I thought it would be interesting because you got to always evolve and figure out what's next i threw out the idea that if you do not get this hank i think that everyone in this room on sundays we put 20 into a jar and that becomes the pot and it just rolls over so every week you put in $20 and if anyone hits it, they get the pot and Hank has to match the pot. So then I would take your money.
That's fine. Are you okay with that? Yeah.
Because then it would be exciting if anyone else got it. They get the whole pot and Hank matches up to $5,000.
I'm fine with that. I also threw out.
And also just the idea of you having to give like Billy or Jake money would be so

fucking awesome. Quick question.
Is it $20 each?

$20 each. $20 each every

week. And Billy, I know the

next question, you don't have to

play, but you're not going to win if you don't put

your money in. You can absolutely sit out.
Can I

Venmo? No. You're going to make this

free. That's cash, cash, cash, cash, cash,

cash, cash. We actually have a safe.
I think

meme's got a safe. Billy's scared of cash.
That's good for us. He's scared of cash.
Yeah. So, yes.
He's going to try to throw it. So, there's no deal with cash.
Yeah. So, Hank, what's your strategy? Because I think you have a strategy.
It's hilarious that you have a strategy for picking a number between 1 and 100. Yeah.
And also, we should just say, when I hit the machine and the balls all flew out with Tom Fer Franelli right before break, they put them all back in. We couldn't find the three ball, which Hank has never guessed.
Which is what Tom Franelli guessed. Which is what Tom Franelli guessed, which Hank has never guessed, I don't think, because that's Memes number.
So Memes got screwed. Hank did not get screwed.
Actually, Hank got – it was actually in his favor because it's less balls he has to guess right. Sure.
So you're even worse at this than we thought. White-washing history.
Mm-hmm. So just want that on the record so Hank can't say, oh, this is bullshit.
What is your strategy, Hank? We sat down over Christmas. My family, it was a big topic of conversation.
My dad threw out this idea. It's all I got left.
Vin Diesel, he got to a role with family my sister had a child her first child on 10 13 my brother's wife had a child on 11 23 23 plus 34 57 57 23 34 57 i like what's the 34 wait 11 plus 20 11 23 so 10 13 is 23 yep 11 23 is 34 yeah yeah 23 plus 34 57 honestly i gotta say like i'm a little scared i think you're gonna get it 57 is a good number family it's a good number how many times 57 hit i've processed this and i'm pretty confident saying you're not gonna get it because you fucking suck three times this so bad. It's a three-time champion.
But it's Hank. It's a good number.
He can't get it right. He's so bad at this.
57 is good. The funny part is when Hank gets this right, which he will because 57 is a fucking lock, everybody's going to say that this was totally set up.
And since it's the last one, they're not ever going to believe that you got it right. Yeah.
But also good news, because you're not going to get it right because you're Hank. But he has a 1 in 99 chance instead of 1 in 100.
Yeah, that's true. Better chance.
All right. I'm going to go with 17.
Quick crowdsource thing on that. Yeah.
If anyone looks back to any of the YouTubes and sees number three, we're trying to figure out when it may have been lost going through old ones. So just maybe a group effort.
Quick crowdsource.

Billy, what percentage of your job do you think is crowdsource?

That you put out?

AI and crowdsource.

APB for the number three ball.

So your strategy, like instead of looking all around this room,

was to ask all our listeners to watch every episode.

Before break, Jake and I counted every single ball

when they all flew out

and we were looking for them all right hey what's your birthday again june 13th yeah did i nail that is it right is that right jake can you find that for me it is yeah let's go back to the day we forgot about the papadillas i'm not lying it is i think you're lying that's rude because it was a Sunday, last year.

June 13th, okay.

So, 19.

June 13th.

19.

6 plus 13 Hmm Equals 19 That's my guy Family I'm keeping it in the family You don't want to include 1 plus 14 18 Or 1 plus 13 For Billy's birthday You should do that You should do that I'll go 14 for Billy's birthday Yeah yeah Family Family Family My family Family. Family.
My family. What are you doing, Max? You want to do one of our birthdays, 31 or 32? Why not both? Yeah, I'll give you both.
Sure. I'll take both.
Oh, you want to do? I'm going to do my favorite dates in January, which is both your birthdays and January 6th, so it's 69. Oh, okay.
Okay. There we go.
Good job. Good job.
Oh, yeah, yeah. It's 6, 31, 30.
Yes, 30 plus 31 plus 6. Yeah, got it.
You got it. Nope, never mind.
Nope, that's 68. The last one for our guy, Sebastian.
It is. So he has 72.
I'm rooting for Sebastian. This is his last chance.
You're not going to get it. Why are we? Why do you? You know what's crazy? Hank thinks he's going to get it.
Big Cat, do you want to let Hank press the button? You want to press the button? No, Hank, you should. No.
You should. I don't like the tricks you guys have been pulling.
This is the opposite of a trick. All right, I'm doing 19.
Let's just recap. 19.
14. 14.
Bill, you have 68.

Oh, no.

Let's go 69.

You just said your favorite team.

Let's go 68.

Let's go 68.

Jake.

18.

Max.

72.

Max.

31 and 32.

Yeah, yeah, both.

57.

57.

That's a lot of numbers.

One of us is going to get for sure. Where 31 32 come from no 31 31 okay so you got he got both all right you really think you're gonna get you're not gonna get it you're not gonna get it oh my god oh my god why are you nervous jake you guys are not nervous it's like but you guys are losing your minds hank doesn't get this.
He will never get it. Dude.
He will never get it. Oh, dude.
54. Oh.
You suck. Sorry, Hank.
You suck. Sorry.
You're never going to get it. Was it close? You are so bad at this.
Wow. Sixth time.
Oh. That was close.
I saw the five. I have one question for you.
Why couldn't your sister have had that baby three days earlier? No. My one question was, have you ever thought about just picking the right number? That's my New Year's resolution.
Is picking the right number, so you're 0 for 1. Yep.
All right, so we're starting the pot on Wednesday. So everyone bring in $20.
The pot will start at $120.

So if someone hits it on Wednesday or Friday, they get $240.

And then we just keep going up from there.

And we keep going up from there.

And hopefully Hank has to give Max, Billy, or Jake that money.

I'm also probably going to splash the pot huge.

What do you mean?

I feel like it's only right. It puts some money in it.
Oh, okay. Yeah, that's fine.
Whatever you want to do. Can we make it five each? Billy, I'll cover you the first week.
No, no, okay. I'll do 20 each.
I'll do 20 each. It's literally just the dinner that we buy on Sunday.
Just come a little earlier. You'll get lunch, too.
You don't have to play. You don't have to play.
That is a fact. No, but I want to play.
You don't have to play. You can just guess.
Broke a fact no but I want to play you don't have to play you could just guess broke boys need not apply actually New Year's resolution I'm not

being a broke boy oh shit my my figure just sick sorry just count no no no come on no Hank, I'll give you $1,000 if it's $57.

$66.

Damn, I wanted it to be $57. 57.

66.

Damn, I wanted it to be 57 so bad.

What would you have done?

Rooftop.

Thrown something?

Rooftop.

Hideki?

You'll never get it.

You're never going to get it.

Love you guys. My finger slipped again.
Sorry.

No,

no.