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Today is Friday, December 30th, and it's Barstool Arizona Bowl time. Folks, we are recording this live from Tucson, Arizona.
We're in the stadium right now.'re getting ready if you listening right now you've

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to listen sorry so we're here we're gonna do a little preview of everything but uh barstool.tv

it's gonna be awesome Jake myself Dave on the call PFT doing the pregame and halftime Hank he's just

Thank you. we're here we're gonna do a little preview of everything but uh barstool.tv it's gonna be awesome jake myself dave on the call pft doing the pregame and halftime hank he's just playing golf i'll be at no i'll be at the part of my cheesesteak truck oh okay you're gonna be eating you're gonna be eating delicious food all day yeah yeah so it's gonna be awesome barstool.tv that's why we're here you're definitely not going to be high while you're eating cheesesteaks all day right absolutely absolutely not absolutely not in arizona never said absolutely not never said that uh so we're excited we are here in the stadium please check it out it's going to be a broadcast like no other i'm doing the anthem which i'm someone told me before they're like there's big time feedback on the microphone i was like what am i supposed to do with that yeah so if you're down on the field there's nothing because usually they'd say stand behind the speakers you're surrounded by speakers down on the field it was like he said it to me like i'm a real anthem singer i was like dude i'm just gonna go and we're just gonna see how it goes i'm excited for the flyover we were driving from the airport we had some a10s close air support i flew one of those a few months ago um what's that hang no bird we were trying to get so i was supposed to jump out of an airplane it turns out you can't do a tandem jump into a stadium full of people i guess that's a good law i don't know uh so they're like do you want to get certified and spend two weeks jumping out of their airplane i was like no uh do you want to tape it beforehand i was like people would hate that so that's open-ended i will do it if we can ever figure out a way to do it but i was gonna then try to get a bird to land on me no birds so we're just gonna have jerry in a bald eagle costume flapping his wings like the saint joe's mascot oh that's nice that works right that's nice i i'm fireworks fireworks during the national anthem i am pumped about the flyover too yeah i'm told that there will be a flyover there was an air national guard base at the airport when we when we flew in today i was spotting the different types of birds they got there i'm let's just say that no eardrum will be safe in the city of tucson i like that so uh yeah we're very excited it's a big deal for barstool it's a big deal for us so please support us and watch it's gonna be a fun game ohio and wyoming i think we're gonna get some this is gonna be one of those games where it's the true football guys because there's gonna be a lot of running a lot of punting football guys i love it also you have to earn your football guys wyoming when you see the logo for wyoming football you can't help but get pumped yeah just the cowboy old school josh allen absolutely i hope uh drum guy is here the guy who just wears a barrel barrel barrel guy so there's actually it's interesting because there's a turf war over who the real barrel man is because there's a wyoming barrel man but there's also a denver broncos barrel man i remember at the super bowl when it was uh i think the broncos against the panthers yep barrel man was at media day asking questions the big j's got very upset about classic bit yeah classic bit um all right so we're gonna do our weekend preview uh we're gonna do all of our picks the bet is coming very it's it's close we got two weeks left eight picks left decide who has to go bowling and eat hot dogs uh for a disaster you're set up for disaster so here well let me just say this real quick uh good job titans for trying oh yeah because we're we're taping this before the game yeah i i put a pfts on this game that i'm i'm sure that it's going to win because it's titans plus 20 right they're going to keep within 20 josh dobbs sure there's no tape on josh dobbs there is well there's some no not no there's like, what, he's thrown 20 passes in the NFL?

Not a lot of tape on Josh Dobbs

in this offense. And then

over 34 and a half. I like it.

I'm pretty sure it's going to win.

By the time you're listening to this, I am rich.

Yeah, the Titans tried. They tried

really hard. They benched everyone

because they have a Week 18 game for the AFC

South against the Jaguars. Cowboys,

good job. No one got injured.

Hopefully. Hopefully.

So yeah, let's do the games

Thank you. They have a Week 18 game for the AFC South against the Jaguars.
Cowboys, good job. No one got injured.
Hopefully. Hopefully.
Yeah. So, yeah.
So, let's do the games for this week. So, we will be back in studio on Sunday, by the way.
We'll do a stream. The standings.
Let's do the standings. Jake is going to join us in a minute.
He's doing his Big J duty of prepping for the game. Whatever it is.
Did you see there's a – He's in the truck. He has to do everything i feel bad because like we just show up and try to be funny there's a big sign up at the press box it says pro football writers association of america rules for the press box please no cheering clapping or otherwise disruptions this is an active working environment i like it there also is a diet coke machine right outside of where we're calling the game.
And probably the biggest mistake that's ever been made in live broadcasting history, they gave me a Telestrator. Yep.
You got to dong it up. Yeah, you buried the lead with that.
That's going to be a problem. Dong it up.
Yeah. I've already been practicing the dongs.
I expect. Well, you said dong it up first.
You said you've been practicing the dongs. Right.
I did practice, but he said dong it up first. But you practiced before I said dong it up first you said you've been practicing the dongs but you practiced before I said dong it up no no the practice came after you said dong it up yeah but you said that you've been practicing before I even said I was practicing you did the act of practicing but you don't know what I was practicing I knew that you were practicing the dongs because you're always thinking about it we're adam on the bunk we're gonna do the bunk list next week hank's gonna reveal the whole list pft was like i can't believe i didn't think you're actually keeping a list yeah oh i have a hand up one one extra before i want you to hear it from me hank um i may have asked somebody that we work with if they could get me into miley cyrus and dolly parton's new year's eve party uh she said yes she could and then she wrote me back she goes uh you know it's miami right oh and so i was like just forget i said anything she's not gonna forget i asked her about that no definitely not all right so the picks and the standings for everyone to remember it's the second place person and the last place person have to be trapped in a bowling alley until uh they reach a score that releases them uh they can eat hot dogs the second place person eats every hot dog

is 10 pins off their final score they can drink a beer to take it down yeah and then career yeah

one pin per beer and then uh the last place person every hot dog is five pins off and so

they have to essentially like if you eat 20 hot dogs you have to then bowl a 200 to get out of

the the last place person, every hot dog they eat is five pins off. And so they have to essentially like if you eat 20 hot dogs, you have to then bowl 200 to get out of the bowling alley.
The scores right now, PFT is in the lead, 34.5. So pushes count as a half, wins count as one, losses obviously nothing.
I'm in second in the danger zone, 33 and a half. Max is 32.
So it's pretty much a three-man race between the three of us to see who can be second.

And then there's a drop-off.

Billy at 29 and a half.

He's pretty safe.

Hank at 26.

Jake at 24.

So Hank and Jake, two apart.

Are you nervous?

That's why I'm set up for disaster.

It's Jake Marsh behind me.

Yeah.

He can beat me and come back and then step over me and be like, oh. And apologize.
Yeah, be like, I didn't mean to win those games. And it'll probably come down to the last game, me versus him, and he'll win.
And then you. And then a sportsmanship mean to death.
And then I will be so mad the entire time I'm bowling. You pride yourself on being a sharp when it comes to especially the underdogs.
Yeah. And this year, the dogs bit back.
Yeah. And then Jake surpassing you, beating you at your own specialty to make you last place in a do you know ball season long contest.
That's going to be a tough look for you. And I shouted you out, Hank, on Sunday's podcast.
You hit the hungry dog. Appreciate it.
That was great. Now, It's a million shots at it.
You're going to get one. I'd also like to say that I'm not rooting for you to lose this, Hank.
Hungry Dog probably on Sunday. I'm not.
On Saturday. I want Jake to lose this.
It would be way funnier, I think, to watch Jake do this challenge than you. Yes.
Agreed. He needs Tommy John.
Yeah. So if there was a way for us to rig it, I would rig it in favor of Jake.
You would never do that. Here's another wrinkle and jake's not here right now um i would say this to his face but i can't because he's not here right now jake losing it makes second place significantly more of a punishment because you have to be stuck with jake who's going to complain the entire time yeah like if i have to bowl at second place i'd be happy to do it with hank we'd probably just get drunk eat hot dogs if i do it jake he's gonna be like should we call a medic after the first game well he's gonna he's gonna need one of those pitchers ice arms i'm gonna have i'm gonna be half bowling half being therapist to jake that it's gonna be okay he's not doing like significant damage to his shoulder so he would also he would be like are you sure that like medically it's safe to eat a hot dog and drink a beer at the same time you're going to get dehydrated right so i might just kill myself yeah no that honestly i would i would consider that's one way out of the bowling hour yeah that is true the option we never talked about all right so let's do the picks let's talk about the games week 17 uh we got weird things going on in the league.
Derek Carr getting benched and now removing himself from the team. Mark Davis, I read an article today that basically was like Mark Davis just doesn't like Derek Carr.
Well, I think if you look at what's happening there, he's being sad for the last two weeks, not to treat him as a scapegoat or piss him off or anything. It's because they can't have him get injured.
If he he gets injured then they owe him a shitload of money and they won't be able to trade him so they're going to try to trade him this offseason and i think we've predicted for at least the last six weeks it just smells like the colts it smells like it does it smells like a colts move or it could be like josh mcdaniels sending back to Belichick,

kick it up to the boss.

You know what I'm saying?

So the article I read, though, was basically McDaniels and the GM

had a two-day meeting about what to do,

and they were stuck because the Raiders are technically not eliminated.

So it's like sending a bad message when all you've been preaching

is winning, winning, winning.

And Mark Davis is like, I don't have the money. bench him yes i can't i cannot pay for him he doesn't

want to pay him next year right exactly i mean there's a track record of mcdaniels doing this

we did in denver with cutler he's pulling a cutler on car yeah yeah trade him out trade him

out of town um and then we have like yeah there's there's some weird games where will they try won't

they try uh all across the league teams that are dead teams that need to win like the giants colts

Thank you. And then we have like, yeah, there's some weird games where will they try, won't they try all across the league.
Teams that are dead, teams that need to win. Like the Giants-Colts game.
I guess we'll get into everything, but like that game just screams the Giants need it and the Colts don't. Tua also got concussed.
Tua got concussed, which proves that Tuanan still rides hard. He was injured last week.
Yeah, I'm legitimately worried about him yeah and the way that mcdaniels was talking about it was uh it was concerning he was like to just needs to live his life based on what's in front of him right now yeah on any given day yeah that's not that's not what you want to hear like and yeah granted like it is the truth if somebody gets a concussion there's more important things. But as fans, you don't want to have your coach somberly reminding everybody about that.

That's not a good sign.

What if Tua retires and Tom Brady goes to the Dolphins?

In exchange for an ownership stake in the Dolphins.

And Sean Payton takes over. And Sean Payton and Mike McDaniel becomes the biggest flash in the pan of all time.

Yeah.

I think he's a good coach, but it would be like, remember that October or September

Thank you. payton and sean bait and mike mcdaniel becomes the biggest flash in the pan of all time yeah well i think he's a good coach but it would be like remember that like october or september and october when the dolphins were incredible and mike mcdaniel took over the league but mike mcdaniel also seems like a chill enough dude where if tom brady was like i'd like to come to town i'd like you to stick around as my offensive coordinator yeah but sean payton's going to be your coach he'd be like yeah yeah that's whatever same parking spot yeah seebes okay yeah cool we'll do it um all right ready hank yeah your favorite favorite unload my favorite favorite let me pull up my list get that load hank my favorite favorite is the giants minus five and a half so yep okay me too yeah yep i'm scared of this game the colts i just the colts watching them monday night easiest bet i had all year was the chargers they're they're the worst coach team in the league they're terrible they can't score points they can't do anything the giants are fighting for a playoff spot they're fighting for seating the wheels are off it's it's just like bet bet i've been betting the under in the browns game since tashaun came.
Bet against the Colts. It's a big time wheels have come off moment.
I'm just trying not to think about it. Overthink it, I guess.
It makes Ursa's victory lap that he did after Saturday got that first win so much more funny in retrospect. He was like, in your face, fuckheads.
Everybody that said that I couldn't pick a coach to save my life, everyone that thought that I was too busy meddling with a team in business that I had no idea what I was doing, sucked my dick. And it's like, well, they might have been a little bit right.
It's maybe the greatest first impression of all time. Because he basically got, like, it took until the Monday night debacle and probably the week before for people to realize, like, wait, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.
You know, like, he got a month grace period it's like well they're playing hard we sold they won that game and it turns out that the raiders are just like the the worst team and holding a lead of all time yeah and man nick foals got old fast oh nick foals he i swear to god when they said before the game he's what 33 right he's 33 years old i you could have told me nick foals was 46 years old i would have believed you and he was doing like he was back you know back foot wrong foot throw it up i if you're nick foals why are you even doing this not not to bring it all back to the patriots but i was watching that game just being like how did you lose that guy did we lose to this guy in the super bowl yeah lightning in bottle yeah max his head. All right, so I had one stat for you, though, about this.

And this is from my friend Stucky on the Action Network.

The eliminated teams playing teams that need to win over the final two weeks of the season

are 63% against the spread since 1990.

So essentially, any team that needs to win

and you're playing a dead dog team,

it usually works out that the dead dog team is a little livelier than people realize.

But I don't think Jeff Saturday.

I feel like he's lost.

I just wanted to throw it out there.

Listen, I think the Giants would probably be in my CLP.

Jeff Saturday is an exception to that rule.

Yeah.

No, the Giants would probably be in the Can't Lose Parlay, but I just wanted to throw it out there.

Just be warned for the people that it's always that.

You always get caught in that week 17 or 18 where you're like, oh, this team needs to win. This team's not trying.
Hammer it. And you're like, fuck, what just happened? I can't wait to see how bundled up Dable is going to be this weekend.
He's going to look like Ralphie from Christmas Story. I think it's going to be warm.
Is it going to be warm? I think it's going to be warm everywhere. I don't like that.
It's basically the reverse of last week. 53 degrees in New York City.
It's sunny. Greta Thunberg catching dubs left and right.
Yep. She was right.
She had to wait it out. Max, your favorite favorite.
So PFT and Hank are both on the Giants. Patriots minus three.
No Tua going up north. Candy ass.
Dolphins suck. I just have to say, a lot of people listening probably don't know this person's name, but he's a fantastic producer at Barstool, Fasoli, who's a diehard Patriots fan.
He just fist pumped when Max picked him as if like game over. Yeah.
Game over. Patriots won.
It's just like bros supporting bros. He knows I know ball.
He knows I know ball. Max, can I give you a stat that might concern you on this one? Nope.
So, Teddy Bridgewater, Spready Bridgewater. He is 24-6 against the spread on the road in his career.
He does nothing but cover. Wait, he's not on the road.
Yeah, he is. Oh, yeah, that's right.
It's in New England. It's in New England, yeah.
I forgot they played in Miami in the beginning. The candy-ass uniforms in the cold.
I agree with that stat, but my stat of Spready Bridgewater being a beast against the spread, I might not bet on him this weekend, but I don't think I would ever bet against him. Okay.
I have a question. Hank, you weren't on the show on Sunday.
You heard us talk about Mac Jones do you want the Patriots to make the playoffs no I've been I've been and this is I was I was I was on the on the road with my friend and I was like they showed the playoff picture in the hotel and I was like honestly I know I have to watch these games anyway I would rather just watch the playoffs completely fan free because I know it's gonna get my hopes up and be like oh you know I have to worry about and like kind of pump myself up for them winning even though if they won the first game they're getting smoked the second game they're probably getting smoked the first game I've been I've given up on the season since the Raiders game call me if call me a fake fan call me whatever you want but it's just not it's not our year offense is terrible. What did you think about our comments about Mac Jones?

That he has to be like a chore to root for.

Yeah, the whole team is a chore to root for.

The offense is not fun to watch.

The only fun game was that Thanksgiving game against the Vikings,

but other than that, it's just been like three and out, three and out, three and out.

It's not fun.

It's not fun.

And again, call me a fake fan, but I'm ready for the season to be over.

You think he's a dirty player?

I don't think it's a fake fan thing to say I'm not having fun. Yeah, but I think people will be like, how do you not want to make the playoffs, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But I don't. I don't want the Bears to make the playoffs this year.
Do you? Want the Bears to make the playoffs? No, do you think he's a dirty player? I think that was a cheap shot going at his Eli Apple's ankles for sure. But it's Eli Apple.
He's had some dirty plays. He's had some suspect tape.
Yeah. Some things that have been piling up.
All right. My favorite favorite.
I'm going with Mike White. I'm back on the Jets.
Mike White. I really do think that road favorites – Road favorites Jets.
They're actually a good team with Mike White. They're such a bad team with Zach Wilson.
I think the defense will get, like, you know, juiced up from it. The Seahawks have been very, very bad.
They're still getting, like, a little bit of love from the beginning of the season. Mike White.
Everyone rides for Mike White. I really – Zach Wilson, some of the stats that have come out like they they're like he is actually like the worst I saw one that was very rarely do does a player as bad as Zach Wilson make it to their 20th start that's how bad he's been yeah it was like a list of like Jamarcus Russell Achilles Smith Zach Wilson it's been that bad you know you know yeah Mike White is like you have Mike White he might not be the best but when you go from Zach Wilson.
It's been that bad. You know.
Yeah. Mike White is like, you have Mike White.
He might not be the best, but when you go from Zach Wilson to Mike White, everyone's got to be so pumped. Also, I've been watching White Lotus, and so every time you see Mike White at the start of that, it bumps the other Mike White stock up a little bit in my book as well.
Facts. The Jets are well-rested.
They played Thursday night. They had the mini-bu mini bye last weekend and some people are saying this is a geno smith revenge game oh because i actually think it's a jets revenge game against geno smith yeah it's the other way around i'd agree i'd agree um all right that's got to be billy's pick too right no billy went with eagles minus five and a half if we talk shit to him you think we can get him to change his pick to the Jets.
He's like, oh, shit, I shouldn't have left the Jets. Eagles minus five and a half.
If we talk shit to him, you think we can get him to change his pick to the Jets? He's like, oh, shit, I shouldn't have left the Jets. Eagles minus five and a half.
Max, this game scares me. Not me.
This is fine? This is fine, yeah. Okay.
Lane Johnson is back. Lane Johnson is pretty important.
Did you see that he's back? He's back all the way? No, not. From the nut shot? No, he has confirmed that he will be back for the playoffs.
What was his injury? Nut shot? Yeah, I still think. Well, it was like strained oblique, which kind of is a nut shot.
I think it was just a really bad nut shot. When you say confirmed back for the playoffs, where did you see that confirmed? Several tweets? I don't know.
I saw it. Rapoport.
It was actually, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah.
He was like, he's choosing not to get surgery so that he can 100% get back. Oh, that sounds good.
That's always great. No, he's a warrior.
He's definitely hurt, and we'll try to pretend that he's not hurt. He needs surgery.
But he's a beast. It's fine.
What about Avante Maddox? He doesn't look as good. Okay.
Who else got hurt? Jordan Davis, concussion. He'll be back by the playoffs.
Okay. CJ Gardner-Johnson comes back.
I heard Hurts is practicing. Hurts is practicing.
Things are trending up. Okay.
Is he throwing in practice? Yeah. He was throwing today in practice.
Okay. I don't think he was in pads, but he was throwing.
And all you got to do is win this game, then rest week 18, and then rest for the five week. That Dalton it is Andy Dalton it is Andy Dalton but I'm just on the road at home it's just crazy that the Saints that doesn't make sense the Saints are still alive like it's it's insane to think that the Falcons were the first team in the NFC South to get eliminated after it is it is wild like mid-October um all right uh do we have Jakeakes do we have jake's pick does anyone have jake's pick i do not have it we gotta text memes for jake's picks i'm currently trying to get billy to change his pick to the jets by pulling yeah he just texted tough look tough look billy don't believe in your jets all right so uh giants giants jets eagles patriots and whatever Jake comes up with here.
Why don't we go to the underdogs? Why don't we go to the underdogs? Hank, he's thinking about it right now. My underdog.
No, I know. I was looking for the text.
Bears plus six. That is also mine.
Six and a half right now. Six and a half.
I mean, I think I've said this probably ten times in the Lions this year. I think I did this the first time they played.
It's going to be a close game. It's going to be a field goal one way or the other.
The Lions are a good team. Six and a half point favorites is way too much.
They play every game close, exactly. Right.
And I'm always nervous about one week. The Lions looked terrible last week against the run.
The Bears have a really good game will they be able to figure it out like fix it because it was so bad against the panthers i don't know i'm i'm with you on the bears i could see the bears winning this game and then maybe you know because they hope they probably want to lose but i could see you want to lose kind of losing close at the end it's it's it's the same exact reason from earlier in the season it's going to be a field goal game one way or the other but that's a win either way yeah the bears should try to lose because but cover right but they could be winning and then you know yeah stop trying at the end right exactly that's exactly what they've been doing the concern i would have is like when the bears gave up in the second half is that them giving up for the season i mean even or is they going to come out hot in the first half again and then but they didn't even give up against the bills the bills like dust knocks wasn't even trying to score at the end of the game and then it just the score i know that they got killed by the bills but they're covering with eight minutes yeah it was like it was pretty they were fighting they fight they fight hard uh all right pft you're underdog oh so when i said i wasn't i wasn't going to bet on teddy bridgewater i lied i am betting on teddy Bridge Teddy Bridgewater. Dolphin dogs, baby.
Plus three? Mm-hmm. Okay.
I love that three. It was two and a half earlier this week.
Nice round number. I like that.
I like the round numbers. Plus three.
Dolphins are fighting for their playoff lives. Freddie Bridgewater, baby.
And we could get Dolphins, Jets, Week 18, meaning the last spot in the playoffs. We should actually, by the way, we never even, congratulations to the Chargers.
We do give shit to the Chargers. Yeah.
They made it to the playoffs. Brandon Staley humped his way to the playoffs.
He was doing yoga. He was doing yoga.
You have a bad back. I've got a bad back.
I recognize that. That was cat, cow, cat, cow.
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Oh, okay. So, yeah, that's another story we got to talk about.
Nathaniel Hackett officially fired. Nice guy.
Worst coach of all time. Well, he's very fortunate to be coaching like right behind Urban Meyer.
True. Not physically.
And then right at the same time concurrently as Jeff Saturday. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true. But, man, did that not go well.
I think the only thing I'll say positively about Nathaniel Hackett that maybe getting fired this quickly, like in 10 years, will we remember? Yeah. He'll be a trivia question.
Like, who is this coach who got fired in the same year for the – actually, I nailed that trivia question. Yeah.
Everyone will know Nathaniel Hackett question yeah well he's also got a great scapegoat in russell wilson because russell wilson has been so bad this year that at least they're they're forever going to be intertwined this is the nathaniel hackett and russell wilson year and i think more people if you're a broncos fan you're gonna be mad at russell wilson the problem is still exist nathaniel hackett is like it's not his fault and it also is is crazy that Nathaniel Hackett the guy he hired to come and help him with the clock is now the head coach yeah um so that's that's a little weird uh also Russell Wilson is it crazy to say that the Broncos like they should at least consider just cutting him uh Rick Riley would agree with you I all right so I know that there's a hundred million dollars and he's still russell wilson you hope that maybe he can be fixed but like if you don't if you let the if the problem still exists for a couple more years you get deeper and deeper into a hole i don't think they will but it's going to be a tough sell for any coach to be like i want to come coach this and. And after seeing what his season looked like and the regression he's had, and he's not like he's young.
It might not be – it might just be the cliff that he fell off. Yeah, it could be.
I mean, it was since he came back from his five-week finger injury in three weeks in record time, he has not been the same guy since then. The Waltons, they own Walmart.
They've got the money. They could just – listen, they've rolled they've rolled back prices further before than like how much more do they own now? Like $200 million? Yeah.
They can write it off, right? I was tweeting about it because I was saying that Sean Payton – I don't think Sean Payton is going to go to the Broncos. I just want that clear.
But it would be crazy to say the Broncos shouldn't at least do the blank check. And people say, well, they have to trade picks.
The Broncos, remember, do have a first-round pick from the Bradley Chubb trade.

And Vic Fangio, I know, is Sean Payton's defensive coordinator,

that he is ready to go, and that would be awkward.

But still, money is like – you know, money can decide all.

Money is money. If they're like, hey, Sean Payton, $20 million a year.

I've actually heard Sean Payton is more likely to go to the Chargers right but i'm yeah well brandon silly saved his job maybe i think he probably did the chargers the chargers fired marty schottenheimer when he went like 15 and 1 it's true those are the san diego chargers so that's true i've different san diego super chargers great song song. Russell Wilson, tough week for him.

He's getting all the blame. He got people bringing up his private parking spots and private offices in the Broncos facility.

And maybe the most down bad maneuver of all time has been pulled on him by Subway.

Subway took Russell Wilson's name off the Danger Witch.

If you go on their website, they've got the Jimmy Garoppolo, like Italian Stallion. They've got the Patrick Mahomes chicken.
They've got the Steph Curry, whatever his sandwich is. And then they just have the Danger Witch on there, which is – that's bad.
Yeah. That's bad.
Very bad. Separating the sandwich artist from the sandwich art.
But Max likes him. What if Nathaniel Hackett's actually just really bad great guy no i think we know he he was but what if no i know i we yeah he he was very bad at coaching i keep going back to our interview and how he said that the ownership did not ask him any football strategy related questions in their interview really just an all-time blunder by us to interview because like and we had this conversation about a month ago like the jokes that we would have had yeah um he really charmed us but man was he bad at coaching a football team as a head coach yeah offense he's probably good news for nathaniel hackett he'll probably just go back to the pack well yeah he was he was brought in as bait for they pretty much like put him underneath a box that was propped up by a stick on a string and they were like come on erin come on erin yeah he was a good erin you know you want this neat hackett by the way do you think davante adams might be regretting his decision yeah a little bit like your best friend just got benched and is going to get cut and you went to the raiders yeah just a little bit just a little bit he did say he wanted to be closer to home so and that's California so that's he is closer yeah and and just so you know people remember the Packers he confirmed the Packers did offer him more money yeah it's crazy it's crazy to think about it's not even a money thing now if if we flash back in time like I think it was a year when i was told that i was inventing fan fiction on this podcast when i said something about las vegas feels like tom brady would want to go out there and finish his career there now they've got mcdaniels out there they're cutting their quarterback or trading their quarterback and if you're a divorced man in your 40ies, what city do you want? Oh, I thought you were going to say, what owner do you want to hang out with? Mark Davis.
Yeah. And Guy Fieri.
He's there. No, you want to go to fucking Vegas.
Yeah. Vegas, baby Vegas.
Just think about it, Hank. I mean, which story, which, which book are you writing? The dolphins one or the Raiders one? We're writing many books.
Both. Either go to Miami.
There's a Niners chapter here too. It's actually a choose your own adventure book yeah so you can just skip to page 50 and figure out what happens when he goes out on the town with Mark Davis imagine Brady and Mark Davis in a UFC fight it'll be sick so perfect paying the town right you could do just like a remake of the hangover with Mark Brady might be might be richer than Mark Davis.
Oh, he definitely is. And also, Mark Davis would sign Brady, and there would be a clause in his contract.
Like, you have to hang out with me once a month. Like, we have to go out together once a month.
Which, honestly, if I were the owner, I'd probably do that for a star quarterback, too. She'd be like, you have to be my best friend.
I'm paying you all this money. We're best friends now.
All right. So and then billy's pick oh we got jake's picks too so jake also took the eagles minus five and a half oh one more thing about the the russell wilson situation in denver he's had like six different people in that front office between the gm and and the ownership group just going in front of the media and being like we believe that russ is fixable yeah how Yeah.
How would you feel if you were Russell Wilson and your boss just kept being like, I think he's fixable. I think we can fix this guy.
Yeah. He's probably, Russ Wilson, he projects an image of, like, supreme confidence.
He is Mr. Unlimited, after all.
But, like, that can't be a good situation to be in when you're Russ. Maybe they mean, like, believes in such weird shit like they could even do like conversion therapy to have him become a regular person shock him whenever yeah right he checks down he probably if you if you framed it correctly to russell wilson and you're like we're just gonna use these clamps on your nipples and your balls and your brain and we're just gonna do a little like jolt of energy into you and hope it works he'd be like yeah okay i think if yeah you could you could actually like hook up electrodes to the side of his neck and whenever he does something to creep out one of his teammates or acts like a weirdo yeah shock shock so he is fixable in that you just have to frame it correctly yeah yeah two-point conversion therapy yeah you're gonna get more unlimited all right so billy Billy and Jake.
So Jake has the Eagles minus 5.5. That's his

favorite. Billy and Jake both

have the

Minnesota Vikings plus 3.5

in Lambeau.

This game scares me.

I want the Vikings

to win. I'm rooting for the Vikings.

I know Vikings fans hate me.

I don't care. I'm rooting for the Vikings to win.

They're not going to win. The Packers are going to win, and they're probably going to cover

because similar to the Lions game a few weeks ago,

the Vikings are 12-3, and they're playing against a 7-8 team,

and they're 3.5-point underdogs.

Seems pretty hungry to me.

That seems like the biggest trap of all time.

They want you to be like, oh, how could the Vikings be 3.5-point underdogs

when they're 12-3?

How?

So, seems like the biggest trap of all time. They want you to be like, oh, how could the Vikings be three-and-a-half-point underdogs when they're 12-and-three? How, Hank, how? They're already in the playoffs.
Okay, all right. Okay, all right.
They're already in the playoffs. They're already in the playoffs.
They are playing for seeding. So they have – that's both of their underdogs.
Let's go to overs. My over – I mean, I feel like you guys talked about it with Baker and McVay.
Over rams chargers i think it's gonna be a points bonanza chargers are good they're getting healthier they're also playing for seating so they're going to be trying and and i think baker is pretty good mcveigh's got them going i think it's going to be a 60 point game i will admit and this hurts me to say it because i don't want to be duped again by the chargers but when keenan allen and mike williams are on the field they're totally different yeah so um hand up i have officially been duped by the chargers yep i'm i'm almost there i'm all i'm all the way in i put a big future on them i'll be a very rich man if they win the super bowl um which sounds ridiculous to say to say i bet on the chargers to win the super bowl which is stupid yeah but at the same time just very dumb Austin Eckler pointless but here's why shut the fuck up Hank here's why Austin Eckler he's great like the the rushing stats I think they're like second to last in the league doesn't matter they use him catching passes as the running game out of the backfield they have I think the third best passing offense best passing offense in the NFL right now, which is now they're all healthy, so they're really clicking. Their schedule is favorable these last two weeks to them.
It wouldn't be in the playoffs. What's that, Hank? Keep going, sorry.
Oh, that's interesting that you brought that up, Hank. It won't be in the playoffs because guess who they would play if it all shakes out how I'm envisioning it shaking out.
In the AFC Championship? They would play against the Jacksonvillears in the first round okay it's all a tough place to play that's and they did lose the jaguars early in the season but that's beside the point it was a different team and they're getting bosa back counterpoint chargers they're the chargers chargers just think about the chargers in kansas city or buffalo or cincinnati but or the super bowl yeah i forgot that they were the chargers when I bet on them. But the odds were so juicy.
Plus 2,800. Yeah, no.
This team's good. That's fair value.
That's good value. That's a good bet.
Yeah, it's already come down. That's like my Eagles future.
It's probably not going to win. Max, close return here.
Don't listen to that. It's probably not going to win.
I know it's not going to win, but I got great value. Yeah.
So good value counts for something. It's's coming i am officially buying the chargers bullshit i like it i'm all in on it and this is the battle for the 405 which team do they share like is there a home locker room no i think the chargers are always away so the chargers are still they're in their home locker room which is the away locker room right this weekend right what does the winner get um the 101 yeah sure oh five they get rassillo's boat oh that's sick yeah sick boat it's a sick boat all right uh so vikings vikings max did you have yours your broncos so you're oh yeah the over we're on overs sorry we're this is a little confusing episode because we're not sitting in the studio my brain's's a little scrambled.
What's your over, PFT? Same one. Same one.
Yep. Same one.
Same one. Chargers.
Go for it. All right.
Chargers are going to put up 41 on their own. My over is going to be the Jaguars and the Texans over 43 and a half.
So everyone's talking about the Titans resting their players this weekend. No one's talking about the Jaguars maybe resting their players so the reason why is the jaguars still have like an eight percent chance to go to the playoffs even if they lose to the titans right in the wild card and i also i believe if they tie week 18 the jaguars would go if they win this game do we have any scenarios like we got last year with the chargers and the and the raiders the tie well yeah no the jaguars would go to the win this game.
Do we have any scenarios like we got last year with the Chargers and the Raiders, the tie? Well, yeah, no, the Jaguars would go to the playoffs if they tie, I believe. But would the Titans also go to the playoffs? I don't think so.
Like, I'm looking for one of those scenarios where a tie gets both teams in. Both teams in, yeah.
That was a once in a billion shot. All right, so I'm taking the over in that game.
I just think Trevor Lawrence is, he's the guy now. And he's been playing well in the Texans, I don't know, they're a little frisky.
Score some points. Yeah.
Can't really game plan for Davis Mills and Jeff Driscoll. Yeah.
It's tough. Yeah, they can beat you any number of ways.
All right, Max, your favorite over? Vikings, Packers, over 48. Okay.
Okay. I don't hate it.
I don't hate it. I also need the Vikings to win desperately this weekend.
So this weekend, Big Cat

and I are calling a truce with all Vikings fans.

They won't accept it. They're mad at us.

I'm still offering it to them. I get that they're mad at us.

They have every right to be mad at us.

I understand the robbery, but I will

be rooting for the Vikings. Yeah, like it or

not, I'm going to be the biggest Vikings fan in the world

this weekend. Do you know what I should do? I should put the Packers

in the Can't Lose Parlay. I should do that i should do that for vikings that's my bet that i want at least if five vikings fans tweet at me uh being like please do it i will do it this is the olive branch not counting hank well the vikings will be in the hungry dog so oh god all right well yeah that's fun um all right uh we what's your over jake i had chiefs broncos over 45 i believe okay nice yeah we talked to plug all the picks in yeah we talked about anything i've known any like opposing picks any i did say at one point.
Any sames?

A couple.

I said at one point that the punishment for the second place person is significantly worse if they have to do it with you.

I thought we were going to do it together regardless.

Yeah, but he's saying if you have to do this challenge,

you'll be saying that something's broken on your body.

Like I happen to do it with Hank.

So you have no room to complain.

I'd be fine with you.

I'd want to put a bullet in my head.

That's what I said.

You would definitely keep track of like how many beers we drank and then add that to like an end of life.

But you would be like I'm injured.

You would just be like I'm injured the whole time and I'd be like I said I would have to be like a therapist and also have you worried about myself second places should finish in a day yeah true yeah well especially if it's with you and i kill myself so i'm done in like an hour that's true right easiest way out all right so that was the only thing of note that you would probably want to hear you gotta kill him before he kills himself yeah that's true that's your only option yeah yeah just speed round it uh will you be taking lessons before uh i was thinking of hitting up either uh pete weber and or joey chestnut maybe a little collab okay appropriate okay yeah or nancy reagan talk to her ghost i don't get it but but yeah, that's the plan. But I'm fully embracing, I think, unless a miracle happens, I'm fully mentally ready.
Like, it's over in my eyes. Hank is convinced that you're going to pass him.
Really? And Billy thinks he's safe, by the way. That was a funny text.
Yeah. Billy said.
I'm five and a half behind Billy, and Billy's like, Jake can't mathematically pass me, right?

Because he forgot that was week 18.

Oh, I just assumed that Billy

had not filled out his picks for this week,

and he was trying to be like,

it doesn't really matter that I didn't do my homework.

I mean, that has to take over the you don't know ball.

Yeah.

If you don't even know that there's another week of the season.

That's true.

Everyone should do it for me to go 4-0,

Billy to go 1-4.

Yeah.

Yes.

That would be a crazy class.

You guys both have the Eagles.

Oh, man.

Yeah. I actually think Big Cat would kill him so fast if it was him and Billy.

Yeah, probably.

True, true, true.

That's a good point.

I probably wouldn't show up.

It'd just be like, I would have one of you deliver my obituary to Billy

being like, sorry, you're bowling by yourself.

I had a lot of people who didn't know ball in my mentions yesterday.

Yeah, the two-point thing.

The two, college football in the third overtime. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, a lot of casuals didn't know that it goes to a two-point contest. As somebody that had Arkansas minus two and a half, I turned it off.
Yeah. I was like, I can't bear to watch this.
And then people were trying to do the reverse, like, well, it could be a pickoff on the two-point conversion, and they could win by four. No, no, no, bro, you didn't know ball.
It's never happened. It's okay.
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It's the perfect letdown for what's been like two straight – or actually, it's been like that stat they always put out on like right before Thanksgiving where it's like the next 35 days have a football game. Yeah.
It will be nice to just ease into that one. Yeah.
It's going to be great. It's probably going to be the drunkest day in the history of cincinnati yep the city like the city no one's gonna work on monday it's a holiday it's a holiday i'm not even live streaming that game from hoboken i'm down you want to yeah i like you i have a little bit of an arizona ball tie-in to this monday night football game Football game.
Two of Wyoming's most notable football alumni are going against each other. Josh Allen, Logan Wilson, Bills Bengals.
I was also going to say, I think Joe Burrow is from Athens, Ohio. Joe Burrow's dad used to be a coach for Ohio.
Not the head coach, but he went to high school. I believe it's 11 minutes away from Peden Stadium where Ohio plays.
That's wild. That is wild.
It's a lot of Arizona Bowl and football time. How did you like that wild stat I sent you yesterday? That was sick.
There's a stack going around that Tom Brady's been in the NFL longer now than he's been out of the NFL. Yeah.
Fucking wild. Crazy.
Wild. Yeah.
Okay, unders. Let's wrap it up with unders.
My under, I'm going with a backup quarterback versus the least fun offense in the league. Dolphins, Patriots, under 42 and a half.
So do I. That's big.
That's huge. Oh, no.
I should have seen that coming. Yeah, you should have.
That's a big mistake. That's that.
Can we let him change? No. Absolutely not.
I honor the rules. Come on.
No, I honor the rules. Jake doesn't want to change, big cat.
I don't want know what i don't want to win like that no or lose like that i don't want no that's the rules why you're so scared hey did you by the way okay two and a half two back with seven left did you guys catch that that sneaky sportsmanship thing jake just did where he goes no i don't want to win like that i mean lose like that no i meant like hank you should change said last three weeks. I would, but rules.
Jake's right. Rules.
All right, you let Jake just dictate what you think? No, rules rule. Okay.
If Hank beats me by a game, or if I beat Hank by a game, I'll be like, I would have to do the thing with him. I would have to.
I can't go to sleep at night saying... Couldn't.
Yeah. Could not.
All right, PFT, you're under.

So we all have, the three of us have the under in that game.

Yeah, my under is Saints-Eagles.

Ooh.

Saints-Eagles.

I think this is going to be just a gross game.

It's a disgusting game.

It is going to be nice.

Like, all the weather's going to be nice.

The Saints play just boring football, though.

That's the thing.

Their defense isn't bad.

I feel like every Saints game that I've watched for the last month they've had 17 points or the winner has had 17 points yeah they just don't there's there's nothing exciting about uh about any of those games when the saints are on the field this year it's a fact it is a fact uh max i have raiders niners under 41 and a half okay this game is gonna be jared stidham poor jared stidham first start ever to go against the niners who are playing the best defensive football in the nfl right now it's it's really bad it's really really i feel i do feel awful for him yeah because like when he when he signed up to come out to vegas with mcdanDaniels, it's because he's like a pet backup quarterback for Josh McDaniels. Yes.
This was never part of the arrangement that they had. Yes, never.
All right. My – or, sorry, Billy's under is going to be the Panthers and the Bucs, under 40 and a half.
Big Cat, question for you. Do you know who has the fourth best passing offense in the NFL? Is it the Panthers? No, it's the Bucs.
Oh. I was going to be like, holy shit, it's the Panthers? Isn't that crazy? Like Tom Brady.
Well, it actually makes sense just because, like, thinking about all their games, they've had a bunch of games where they've just sucked at scoring points, but they do get a lot of they get a lot of yards and their fourth quarters have been pretty good recently right for the most part not counting that Bengals game but they yeah they I was blown away when I saw it they're fourth in the league and yeah it does feel like every game goes the same where they move the ball and then they get to uh by the way the Cowboys are up seven nothing seven nothing um they get. They get to the red zone, and then they just can't do anything.
Hank, I think I'm back on the Bucs this week. Do you want to join forces? Yes.
Take the Bucs together? Yeah. So you're going to keep it out of the hungry dog? Yeah.
Okay. I was thinking about it, but I can't go against Tom this late in the season.
I just think that this is finally the week. They're so bad, but maybe not.
It's the same as last week. He's got to get the boys ready for the playoffs.
I can't do this to myself. It's Tom time.
I can't do this. It's Tom time.
All right. Games we miss.
Cardinals, Falcons. Who cares? J.J.
Watt. Oh, yeah.
J.J. Watt cares.
Let's talk about J.J. Watt's retirement real quick.
he is no doubt a hall of famer and yeah you'll hear us with taylor and will but i would argue his peak he is top three defensive player all time i agree with that so here's some stats he's been first team all pro five times led the nfl in sacks twice led the nfl in tackles for loss three times quarterback hits four times he is he won three defensive player of the year awards in four years yep might not ever be done again that stretch that he had from like 2013 to 2016 was the best i've ever seen any defensive player ever he had that year where where he had, I can't remember how many sacks, but like over 100 tackles, and he scored five touchdowns. Remember that? Because he had a couple of his tight end.
No, but he was also a couple scooping scores, and remember he had that sick pick six. J.J.
Swatt is what they called him. He was an absolute workhorse.
Insane, insane player for that insane insane player for that stretch injuries obviously the longevity might not be the same but if you pick just the like if you get the three best years of a player he's up there as one of the all-time greats i want to get ahead of this debate because you're going to hear a lot of people say jj watt for as great of a player as he was even better guy off the field disagree disagree he was he a much better player yes he was like one of the top three all-time he's not listen he only he's a good guy he's not gandhi he's not a hall of fame person no like who's if you're thinking top three people of all time mlk gandhi dolly parton guy fieri guy fieri jj's dog the bounty hunter there's a lot of jesus yeah there are a lot of great people a lot of great jj's a very good person he has three defensive player of the year awards only one man of the year award so i'd say he's a better the stats don't lie he's a better player than he is a person yes yes he is because that's how good of a player he was yes it's not a knock on him at all he's just a really fucking good player all right so cardinals falcons who cares um we talked about oh browns commanders any thoughts uh yeah browns carson wentz i don't i'm i physically cringe when i hear that name um carson wentz is going to start for the commanders in a, essentially two playoff games that I have to watch Carson Wentz play for my team. I think it was very short-sighted of Rivera to take Taylor Heineke out, considering like we're talking about Stidham going up against the Niners.
Heineke had to play against the Niners defense last week, okay? Why are you judging him based on that? He's had a couple bad fumbles outside of that but he's trying to make plays i think the team plays better for heineke the real stat though is the commanders with tyler larson at center are six one and one without him they're one and six this year so he got injured a couple weeks ago at metlife on that field turf not grass and not You're not grass guys. Yeah out that's really the meaningful that's where you see the downturn and also if you go by the stat of the 49ers they whoever plays the 49ers loses next week we're gonna lose to the browns yeah um so also it does feel like this could be the Deshaun Watson is back game.
I was thinking about that. Who do you think has shot more skeet? Carson Wentz or Deshaun Watson? That the ducks on that roof.
That's an image that will haunt you. Yes, it does.
It's bad. I'm going to say Carson Wentz.
Also, Taylor Heineke's big getting new jordans uh and carson wentz got some custom duck nikes which were maybe the most disgusting shoes i've ever seen i didn't see the duck nikes i saw he got uh his family put on the tongue yes with and like ducks and ducks yeah put ducks and his family on there gross duck dynasty uh okay i think oh no we have two more games we didn't talk about we had the browns commanders and then how do we no one has a pick on this game steelers ravens sunday night football i kind of love the over in this game yeah gross this is it's interesting i the the way that lamar jackson's injuries being reported on is bizarre to me i saw I think Schefter tweeted out today, like Lamar Jackson has missed his 13th straight practice with his PCL injury. Do we do that with anybody else? No.
Like any other? If somebody has like a sprained ligament in their leg, is Schefter tweeting out like day by day, oh man, I can't believe this guy missed another Tuesday practice with his torn meniscus yeah no it's like the injury timetable for lamar is was probably like three weeks at the at the very least so it's like well within that time frame which goes back to like how i've always thought about the ravens and how they've treated lamar and his like you know his various bowel issues that he's had for the last couple years that there's something weird going on with Lamar and the Ravens and how they communicate like his health yeah to each other yes I don't know what it means or what it is but I get the feeling like the Ravens aren't always happy with how Lamar chooses to like sit out specific practices and I probably Lamar is probably not always happy with oh the fact that they haven't given the franchise quarterback a big exactly yeah there's some like disconnect there like if you're Lamar I know that you want to play and I do think Lamar is he seems like the top of the list of guys that really care a lot like you can just see it on the sideline he wants to win and his teammates rally around him but fuck man if you're even like that's a lot of money that's on say I know he'll still make it but still you have to there's got to be a small part of you like fuck these guys I think the Ravens should just let them walk and let whatever team maybe you could keep the same house a local team maybe pick them up next year just let them walk Ravens let the let the rest of the country have a shout out at Lamar. What if Justin Fields and Lamar Jackson played on the field together?

It's just one ball.

It was a wide receiver, yeah.

No, they're both quarterbacks.

It's just they pitch it back and forth, and then they find the lead and score every time.

They go pro style, so it's two running backs, and then who do you have at quarterback?

Nathan Peterman.

Okay, yeah, love it.

Okay, let's do Fantasy Fuckboys, and then we we got to get to will compton and terry luan what's up boys what's up hey fucker it's maki maka rugalo my stardom is fitness yeah yeah fuck you you bitch fitness whole pizza in my mouth fitness time for for the fucking everyone. New year, new me.
Hard body season. Let's go.
Same old you, bitch. Let's go, Hank.
Hop on that bike. My sit-em.
You're going to be fat. My sit-em is sun.
It's winter. Time to buckle down.
Yeah. Put on some kids.
Bulking season. Oh, yeah.
That's true. You got a book.
Bulking and fitness season. That's right.
Bulk before you shred. In my sleeper, Billy motherfucking Strings.
Oh, Billy Strings.. I've been wearing this Billy strings jacket.
It's my buddies. I don't even really know who he is, but everyone's been giving me compliments.
Billy strings, bluegrass. Check them out.
Love it. It's a good jacket.
Real good jacket. You look great in that jacket.
Billy MF strings. Billy hides your tits.
What? Thank you. Yeah, okay.
I thought you were looking at me like my tits. I don't have any.
Hey, what's up? What's up, cocksuckers? What's up? It's Sully Stiletto Yeah How's it going? What's up? My starting? I'm starting Terrell Owens Yeah! Terrell Owens Gonna sign with the Cowboys this weekend You saw a lot of reports out there He's in his best shape of his life. He's 46 years old.

Maybe even older than that. I'm not even sure anymore.

49 years old.

Great. He looks like he could still go out there

and run a 4-5-40 and put up

1,600 yards in a year. Cowboys

should be signing him any second now.

I'm sitting New Year's Eve.

Fuck New Year's Eve.

It's a holiday for casuals.

When you're professional, you don't even care about it. New Year's Eve, night of the year you go out you have to stand in line ask the ask the grass you got belt buckle the butthole the whole bar's crowded you can't get a drink to save your life i hate new year's eve and my sleeper is soup dumplings you guys ever had these things dumplings? You get the dumpling and then you got the soup inside

of the dumpling. And so you take a bite

of the dumpling and then boom. Bonus

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There you go. Hell yeah.
What's up

you fuckers? It's Tony Baloney

back here.

My stardom is bowl season.

I've been watching every bowl game.

I fucking love the bowls. Barstool

Arizona Bowl. Shout out Kansas

for covering the other day. I'll watch

bowls till my fucking eyes bleed.

Thank you. I've been watching every bowl game.
I fucking love the bowls. Barstool, Arizona Bowl.
Shout out Kansas for covering the other day. I'll watch bowls till my fucking eyes bleed.
And never eat a pasta bowl. And shout out Arizona because we're looking at it right now.
1949, they were the salad bowl winners. That was a real fucking bowl game.
My sit-em is Russell Wilson. This guy's a freak-a-deke Gotta get him out of town Sit his ass Get him out of here Throw him to the trash Find a new quarterback The Broncos gotta be better off with him And my sleeper is ice cream I've just been eating a lot of ice cream Ice cream's good Well, you gotta bulk up before you get to the diet Ice cream's good First you get the protein A lot of protein Milk fat It cream's good.
Well, you got to bulk up before you get to the diet. Ice cream's good.
You got to first, you get the protein, a lot of protein. Milk fat.
It's good for you. Ice cream.
You scream. We all scream for ice cream.
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Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests.

It is the boys, Will Compton, Tara Luan.

We are at the Arizona Bowl.

We're in a suite, so if you hear background noise, if you hear the band playing, if you hear the PA announcer,

that's why we want to give everyone a flavor barstool.tv 4 30 eastern today when this is coming out today tomorrow yes i know your guys brains don't really go that quite today today within 24 30 eastern again i don't i know i'm gonna go at your speed 4 3030 Eastern Friday. Which is tomorrow.
Today.

Which is coming out today.

Yeah.

Will, so our podcast comes out on Fridays.

With the editors. For the production team.

What do you mean?

Getting it turned around like that quickly.

How long does it take you guys to put out a podcast?

We don't need to disclose that.

Wait, what?

Will you guys tape a podcast when?

We tape on Monday.

It comes out Tuesday.

Yeah, so that would be, we're taping Thursday and it comes out Friday.

Yeah, but it's like the middle of the day.

It's 4 o'clock.

Okay, yeah.

What time's it dropping?

What time's it dropping?

It will probably be live by like 1 a.m.

See, that's very good.

It seems like you guys are raising the standards.

It seems like we need to raise our standards.

One thing you're not taking into account, by the way, is we're on Pacific time right now.

No, we're not.

We're on Mountain West time.

We're Mountain West time.

See, I'm fucked up too.

Shit.

I caught whatever Will's back.

All right.

Well,

Thank you. First question, easy question.
Taylor, how much of the Titans collapse do you feel personally responsible for? I would say 83%. 83%.
Can't stay on the field. Not 77%.
Can't stay on the field. Injury prone.
Poor leadership. I would say.
I said it was an easy question. 89%.
Now that you brought those to my attention. Okay.
Real follow-up, because this is actually a real question. How much does it actually, like, sitting on your couch and watching your team struggle a little, that has to kill you.
It's the worst feeling in the world. Right.
That's not bullshit. I'd imagine it would just eat you up inside.
It would be one thing. If a team was doing not great, but the O-line was excelling, I'd be like, well, there's nothing in this situation I can do.
But when you're watching a game on Sundays and you're playing the ego game in your head of like, I could do this, I could do that. Then you really like, you really feel like you're letting the team down in a massive way.
It's tough, dude. When there's sacks being given up.
Lots of sacks giving up. Is there, is there like a small part of you that if it was, if your team was doing really, really well at the offensive line was kicking ass, you'd be like, fuck, that sucks.
Like I'm replaceable. Yeah.
Yeah. It's human nature nature there'd be that small piece of me that'd be like damn they really don't need me huh yeah yeah but like that's in football especially in the nfl there's like that thing like next man up mentality you really they really try to make it seem like they don't they don't need you yeah you know well and will's going through the same thing because he was supposed to be with the Falcons and they just completely fell off a cliff.

There is no next man up mentality since they haven't been able to bring me in.

Yeah, that's true.

They haven't been able to reload.

Let's put our cards on the table here.

Who is to blame for Will Compton not being in the NFL?

Is it Roger Goodell?

We think it's Roger Goodell in that he was trying to keep you off

so that Tom Brady could make the playoffs.

It's hard to identify who the enemy actually was outside of saying like the league office. Is there a chance that maybe it's yourself and your physical fitness? People were asking.
Absolutely not. Okay, I wasn't.
We can put that stuff. We can put that stuff to bed right now.
We were in tip-top shape. We were ready to go play year 10.
Year 10 was alive. And what i enjoy most about i was telling you guys before the show you guys got to be actual witnesses we did to the entire year 10 we named the group chat year 10 negotiations yeah i think i think we actually lobbied for you on part of my take we said arthur we know that you know the boy get him in for a workout he's lonely he's bored he's like a dog that you leave in his house too long he just starts like gnawing at his paws out of anxiety will's got to get out of the house has to run around has to hit something then about two days later he texted our group thread and he was like what do you say well you want to come down for a tryout and i there was part of you that thought it was a bit that he was like he was like pulling your leg or something right don't you remember we were talking to him about how they could beat the L.A.
Rams? And if he just started a fight with Aaron Donald, he'd take their helmet off, beat them with it. And you're like, sounds like a job for fullback Willie.
And he's like, well, would you do that for the boys? And I was like, I said yes. And he goes, what did he say? Are you in shape? Could you do a workout? And I said, nothing that caffeine and anti-inflammatories wouldn't get me through.
And he goes, all right, I'll hit you up here soon. And then a couple days later, they're calling to do a workout.
And I was like, I had to text him on the side. Like, is this real? Yeah, is this real? Am I getting punked? He's like, no.
And I was like, let's push the workout a couple weeks I need it. Yeah, we saw footage of the workout.
You looked good. You did drop a couple passes.
What are you talking about? That's false. We saw the footage.
Did that footage never make it out? can you can bring up the footage right now i would love to see multiple passes he dropped one one i dropped one we just the the viewer could assume that that wasn't the only one that i dropped one pass well that was the highlight of you guys watch the footage too i wasn't wearing gloves that's true that's true and that matters that's so that boys are throwing heaters out there and i haven't caught a ball in year. I've thought about that.
You know how receivers are making one-handed catches? Like four guys a week are making spectacular one-handed catches. Why doesn't the defense just wear those gloves? That's a great question.
They do, don't they? The DBs do. Yeah, DBs wear gloves.
Do they? Who is throwing the gloves? They have the same gloves. There's not like a wide receiver glove and then a DB glove.
There's just one glove. Oh, I guess they really just suck at catching.
Who was throwing the heaters? Matt Pease, the assistant linebacker. Oh, okay.
I was going to say because Mariota and Desmond Britten. Hey, shut up Matt Pease.
It's Matt Pease. Shut up.
You've seen Matt Pease. Dude, great guy.
He does not throw rockets. Not to Mark Wahlberg you, but do you think Dean Pease gets knocked out if you're on the sideline there? Did you see that clip? No, I did not.
Oh, man. You really don't care about your teammates.
Is there an actual clip of him getting hit? Yes. He got just absolutely smoked.
Coach Pease? You didn't see that? You didn't go to the hospital. And if you were there, it wouldn't have happened.
Oh, there's no doubt. It was like a returner or something.
Yeah. A returner was catching a ball pre-game and he ran right into Pease.
And the woman interviewing him just stepped out of the way. He just got blown up.
She didn't say anything. She didn't say anything.
Oh, my God. He's a stud, man.
Was there any part of you that as you were pumping out your, like, four or five times a week Will Compton signature parlays on the NFL games that you were like, hey, maybe I should take my foot off the gas a little bit when it comes to sports gambling if I'm trying to get back into the league? No. No regrets.
Do you think you maybe were too good at gambling? That's a thought. Yeah.
Because we were out there. A lot of it, too, it's like, you know, I don't want to get into all the things that I could compare it to because it would be, you know.
It's hypocritical. Yeah.
Yeah. There's a lot of ways it's hypocritical.
Yes. And there's a part of me, too, because when I did the workout and I sat, Arthur had me come up to his office and we sat and talked about the game plan of it all he was like when do you want to when do you want me to sign like when do you when would you want to sign would it be a couple weeks to get more shape because clearly like I was I was the boys I was gassed out there a little bit and um I was like honestly the ideal time for me to sign if I had a perfect world and he goes perfect scenario what would you what would you like to have happen and I said that if you could come get me after we play the Bussin Bowl on November 12th, that we could fulfill our deliverables with Bojangles, and I'd be able to make right with Bojangles, and then I'd be able to go play.
He looked up on his computer, saw that there was a Thursday night football game, and he goes, that works for us. That'll be perfect.
We'll come get you after then. He didn't that week of, but he did, that was, it was like the following week where it actually happened.
Do you think it was a mistake by the Falcons to put your locker next to Calvin Ridley? That, I mean. No.
They're trying to right their wrong, right? At the end of the day. Actually, Calvin Ridley's biggest wrong...
At the end of the day, I was doing nothing. I was doing nothing illegal as a non-active NFL player.
That's true. That's a fact.
You got railroaded. I think you should just never retire in year 20.
You should be like, I'm back. Yeah, I mean, you know, love ball.
We're not retiring. Yeah.
We're all eyes on year 11, and people out there who say year 10 didn't work out, it worked out yeah at the end of the day i got called i went out there we were ready to sign the dotted line yep my man literally goes all right 15 20 minutes we're going to fax this in because we had to make an amendment for all the stuff i was doing off the field that's also why that four week span kind of happened is i was like hey i'm doing a gambling show i'm gonna have to tie that up clearly i still gambled but again i didn't know they're gonna pick me up for sure right um but once that happened it was like hey 15 20 I'm doing a gambling show. I'm going to have to tie that up.
Clearly, I still gambled. But again, I didn't know they were going to pick me up for sure.
Right. But once that happened, it was like, hey, 15, 20 minutes, we'll send this into the league office.
We'll get them signed off. I'm talking, we got revisions from the Falcons, from us, written it all up.
And I'm going to defend you too because people don't know all the intricacies, but I remember you texted me. You're like, hey, if I'm going back to the NFL, can you take over my 15 15 minute gambling podcast because i don't want it to die but i also can't do it because i have to wash my hands of it so you were trying to do everything to make it work it was the other side that didn't do yes you were and your response was i'll do whatever you need anything anything you need i was i was separating myself from barstool i was deleting all the historical

content that i had had on me out there gambling i was divesting a stock equity with pen i was

paying back i was doing absolutely everything to make it that actually is the mark of a true

gambler you were just deleting all the tweets with all your losers yeah i had to restart yeah

but i was coming off a couple heaters i was coming off a couple heaters all right so uh

year 11 is gonna happen for sure yeah what about we were talking before we sat down here

I'm not against anything. You put a helmet in front of me.
All options are on the table. We can do a combo deal.
It's like I'm not signing if Will doesn't sign. Yeah.
I'll play in the XFL if The Rock comes on our podcast. Oh, okay.
There it is. This podcast.
Yeah, this is ours. Busting with the boys.
Like ours. Like this podcast.
Busting with the boys. But if we're a package deal, we could, you know.
Yeah. Well, so if we're a package deal, then The Rock has to come on both our podcasts.
I would say that because we're not trying to – we think Rising Tide lifts all ships. I actually think I heard that from you one time.
That's John F. Kennedy, right? But you guys do try and keep us, you guys do try and keep us down.
No, he said we play rice because it's hard. Yeah, that's right.
We do try to keep you down. Okay, well, I mean, your podcast is like Bustin' with the Boys.
It does, it means human trafficking, if you think about it. It's also like, you know, when they like remake movies.
How young boys are we talking about about here it's also like when they remake movies in like bollywood in india like that's kind of what you guys did with bussing you think so no i don't i actually love you guys all right so i have a question off of year 11 are you gonna retire oh i think all all things are on the table right now i want taylor to be a tight end because think about it Was that not talked about? Taylor did say that. If he just goes to Vrabel, he's like, look, I'll be a tight end.
You throw me a pass like maybe once a game, but you know I'll be a great blocking tight end. I get to keep the weight off.
I can be like the best blocking tight end in the league. And they have roles like that, like Stocker, Logan Paulson.
You. Yeah.
Yeah. You got guys who don't win.
Yeah, who catches one or two passes a game, and they're just in there to block. Like, hey, if 77's in there, they're running the ball.
No, I would wear number seven. No, yeah.
I would wear number seven. Well, if seven's in there.
You'd look a lot faster. I would look a lot faster.
Oh, yeah. Skinny as hell.
Yeah. Yeah.
Skinny as fast. Yeah, I would look skinny, but I would look skinny already because I would lose a whole bunch of weight.
So what are you walking around at right now? 276.

That's like Todd Yoder.

You're like Todd Yoder size.

See?

What were you to start the season?

310.

And to lose that weight, was it just like you don't, you just started eating like a normal person?

Yeah, I really- It just goes off?

For me to gain weight, I have to literally eat four times a day, three shakes and work out a whole bunch.

I've lifted weights probably five times since I've been hurt. Yeah, yeah.
It looks good with a t-shirt on, but when I take it off, it does get a little rough. It does get a little sloppy.
No, no. You look solid.
I appreciate that. That does mean a lot.
I'll tell you what has gone away, though. Your ass has gone.
I know. Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
But it's also, it's not like my ass has gone away. My ass hasn't fully gone away.
It's just compared to your ass. You've got an absolute Buick behind you.
I got a little dunk. You have a nice ass.
But I got some love handles. You don't have those as much.
Yeah, but. The front of the car is not as great.
No, but the back of the car is outstanding. Kind of like those new electric SUVs.
Like the headlights are still a little weird. You know what I'm saying? The halogen.
It's like, oh, that looks like a nice vehicle. The bright blue ones.
Yeah. But to go back to the tight end thing.
I think, yeah, I think that'd be awesome actually. That would be so sick.
To go and play one year as a tight end just to see if I can make a team. One year? How about fucking five more years? I don't know.
Taylor, you know you have to. Let's talk about that.
Yeah, I don't know about have to. How are those hands? Who's time are you on right now? Yours.
Okay. But here's what I'm going to say is, you can't go out not having more years than me.
Oh. Technically, more years than you because one of yours is a practice squad and but it got earned it got earned back and what year are you on taylor this is we're both at nine oh no who's made more money wait 20 21 was a prosperous year yeah you never know you't know how I'm moving off the field.
He does well. You don't know.
You actually are kind of considering everything right now. Do you think there would be a moment where you're like, all right, I'm back, or this might be done? Yeah, I mean, there has to be that moment eventually.
Right. Or is it going to happen in August? No, no, no.
If I'm going to make that decision, I'll make that decision internally. Close friends and family.
Maybe you guys be in the group chat. Probably I'll make that in March or February.
But then there's a whole bunch of different things that have to happen. Yeah.
A lot of mouths you've got to feed. Not just that.
There's a whole lot of hoops you have to jump through if you are going to retire. There's a whole lot of things.
That's 11 a hang. What the fuck? What do you mean? Blake Bortles taught us that you don't have to do anything.
You just have to not go on a team anymore. Did he retire? He retired, but did he retire by choice? No, no.
His agent got a couple calls in the spring being like, what's up with Blake? And he was just like, yeah, I'm done. but he never sent the papers until he came on our show he's like i forgot to tell you guys i kind of retired he's just done blake that whole uh the legend when he first when he first got in the league and he was doing that interview with that lady that's like what would you do if you weren't playing football i was like yeah sophie julia smoke cigarettes and do construction yeah like he was a legend he said to us he was because we had him back on to talk about his retirement he's like i'm redoing part of my house and like i'll just go over to the guys and be like can i help out a little bit like my favorite clip from that interview is when she goes what's the first thing you do in the morning when you wake up and he goes i don't know take a big piss yeah he's a guy's guy he's a guy's guy um can we talk about this trophy that's sitting in front of us? Yes.
Yeah, yeah. The low man trophy.
Do you guys feel like you kind of, I don't know, cut some corners a little bit? What do you mean? What do you mean? I mean, Will, go ahead and give that thing a knock. Uh-oh.
That's solid. That's metal.
That's gold. That's actually gold.
Even the box is hollow. That's gold.
That's tough. How heavy is that? Three pounds? Very heavy.
You probably couldn't lift it. Yeah, you haven't been working out.
You're probably right. Yeah.
You're probably right. I know there's another trophy that Michigan and Nebraska play for every single year.
Yeah. And that trophy is 45 pounds.
That sounds like a really crazy trophy. Some people were saying that you'd made that trophy just so that you can inflate your ego because Michigan just always beats Nebraska.
That's not always because what was it? 2013? Oh, 2013. 2012.
All the way back. You guys know each other.
When I was a senior. Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty fucked up that you made Will do a trophy with you of something that he'll never win. What are you fucking talking about? I mean, you'll never win.
You don't think Nebraska's ever going to be Michigan again? You've got a coach that spits on himself. Yeah.
We've got two Big Ten teams that will be 4-0 playing each other next year. Who's that? Michigan-Nebraska.
Michigan-Nebraska. Oh, no chance.
Didn't you say that this year? You guys didn't even beat Northwestern. Northwestern did not win a game in America this year.
That wasn't on U.S. soil.
It doesn't count. It doesn't count.
You've got to be worried about it. You definitely, like deep down in places you don't want to talk about, you'd rather have Luke Fickle than Matt Rule.
No, not at all. Matt Rule, 100%.
does Martinez have another like COVID year could he transfer I don't think so I don't think so we're I think we're going to be in on the the top recruit for 2024 oh okay Arch Manning you're in on him you're in on him like – No, no, no, not Arch Manning the next year. Not this year, next year.
Teams he was thinking about, and then it will say Nebraska. No, I think we're going to land him.
Really? Yeah. Number one recruit, 2024.
Wow. Rayola.
Who is it? His last name is Rayola. Oh, okay.
Well, yeah, that would make sense. Dominic Rayola's son.
Yes. Well, no, Wisconsin would be on that too.
Why? Because he went there. Raylo's Nebraska.
No, the other one. His brother.
Oh, yeah, yeah. You say the other one.
Donovan. Donovan? Yeah.
His uncle is an offensive line coach in Nebraska. Okay.
I'm just saying. I'm just saying we got the – I'm just saying there could be a bidding war.
He was an Ohio State kid. And I have – Listen, I have zero connection to the kid.
I just – In my gut, I think that's the centerpiece of Nebraska. So this is good.
This is Nebraska's recruiting strategy is just hope that one of the nephews, the nephew is the number one recruit and maybe he'll come to the school. I think ultimately what I'm saying is Nebraska is not going to, like, you guys forget last year, it's been one year ago, we only lost to Michigan by three points.
And the game arguably was stolen from us by the refs in the fourth quarter because they didn't call it a stop play whenever they stripped Adrian Martinez and took it to the house. We were on a drive to go win the game.
This is loser talk right now. Yeah, you guys really – Ruth Will is so naturally positive.
I don't – I have a friend, Will, like saying you don't remember last year we almost won this game.'s loser talk can you confidently say nebraska of 2021 was not the greatest three-win football they they've covered every spread exactly i love them for that reason you can are you can say we were nine plays away from a perfect 12 and 0 season that's true you can easily say that scott frost would still have a job like this past year i'm not i can't go out that. Like I can't say we should have won.
Like, yeah, we were shitty this year. Everybody saw it all unfold.
But last year we were in the mix, and to act like Nebraska has got no shot against Michigan, I think is fucking bushly. Well, not for the next like probably three or four years.
Lincoln, Nebraska is a hard place to play. How pumped up are you for this game on Saturday? like are you do you treat it are you a real fan or is it like you went there because i always wonder with like guys who played there it's always a little different than the fans because like you know how the sausage gets made it's just a little different so are you like live or die yeah no i'm i'm full in on michigan what were those eyes you gave me will what eyes you went he went like this oh i don't know probably you guys i'm gonna say no there were no eyes are we still on the same team oh absolutely i'm just making sure appreciate you bob no i'm 100 on michigan i think michigan wins this game i think they cover and then we'll see what happens george is gonna be tough hi george is gonna be tough but also how state matches up well Georgia.
We'll see what happens. All right, so let me give you a hypothetical.
You win this game, and you play Georgia, and there's a 50-50 chance you beat Georgia. Or you win this game, and you play Ohio State, and Ohio State has a 70% chance of beating you, but you have a 30% chance of beating them and ending their whole program.
I don't even really understand the question. It wasn't a good question.
You got better odds. I was trying to think of it.
Yeah, there's better odds. The ball has to be put on the ground.
Everyone's got a shot. He's just saying which shots you'd want to have.
Hand up. I think as a fan of watching, if I'm saying where do we match up better, I would say we match up better against Ohio State because proof's ins in the pudding.
We've already played them. Okay, here's a better way of putting it.
You know that if you have to play Ohio State, if you lose to Georgia, it's Georgia. Second and ten for Big Cat.
Yeah, yeah. Second and ten.
No, I mean, that was a sack. No, it's second and 15.
Would you rather play against Georgia or play against Ohio State? And have the risk. In the back of your head, there's a possibility that Ohio State could beat you for a national championship.
It's Duke UNC. They just got sacked and they're running the same play.
No, no, no. He's right.
No, he cleaned it up. No, no, no.
It doesn't make sense. Ohio State, if you play Ohio State national championship game and you lose to Ohio State, that is 10 million times worse than losing to Georgia.
So much worse. So would you rather play Georgia or Ohio State?

Knowing you might match up better against Ohio State,

but there's a chance

that Ohio State beats you

and it erases everything.

I understand.

There we go.

We got it.

I understand what the risk is now.

You're talking about

the risk is higher

with Ohio State

than it is for Georgia.

Thank you, Hank.

No, no.

We're third and manageable.

No, no, no.

We're third and manageable.

We can't run the ball

with our fucking tackle out

every year.

You start hitting me

with percentages of like Ohio State has a 70% chance to win as opposed to a 50-50 with Georgia. If we lose to Georgia, it's like, okay, everyone thought Georgia was already the best team in the country.
There's really no lose there. If you lose to Ohio State, it's a program ruiner.
For Michigan? Yes. I disagree with that.
That is a big, that is a quick way for Ohio State to right their wrongs. I will say this, though.
Ryan Day is 1-2 versus Ohio State. The last coach to do that at Ohio State was Jonathan Cooper, who ended up going 1-10-1 against them.
The reason why he was fired is because he couldn't beat Michigan. We're in Ryan Day's head.
It's a long time to not be able to beat Michigan to get fired. I think we play Ohio State.
There's a lot of chances. I think it goes the same way.
You get 11 tries. You get 11 tries.
It goes the same way. Maybe this year's different.
Now, Georgia is much more beatable. Georgia is not as good as they were last year.
Michigan is better than they were last year. But I think there's still a gap from a talent standpoint.
Are you a little bit worried about what Harbaugh is going to do? If you guys do make it to the championship game, the level of intensity that that man is going to go to in his own head, he might give himself a stroke before the game's even played. Yeah, I don't know.
I am worried about his health. That is something that comes into my mind if he goes to the National Championship.
He is going to be so locked in. You'll never see a man more focused.
And the fact that he's best that many times. The best, yeah.
He's got like four words going in his head right now. It's like power, best, strength, Michigan men.
It's like just on repeat. Over and over and over.
You can't have a conversation without him. I'm sure his family came and talked to him right now.
No, definitely not. If you gave him a call right now, if you called up his office and left a message.
Do you have his number? I don't have his number. Tell Coach.
I could call him. Tell Coach.
Can you call him? If you left a message for him at his office and you were like, Hey, tell Luan I'd like to talk to Coach. Do you think he returns your call? No, I don't think he returns my call.
Like I'm personally challenging you? There's a 0% chance he picks up. I love Harbaugh so much.
I think he is the best coach in college football right now. I do believe that.
When we were in Michigan, before they played Nebraska, the line was what, 29, 28? No, it was 31. Yeah.
It was 31. He walked into the weight room.
We were in the weight room. He brushed by us, shook our hand real quick, and walked away.
He just focuses on a mission. I would be upset if he did return my call.
Yeah. I mean, that's probably a good perspective to have on it.
Yeah, I was going to say. It's a good positive perspective.
It's also a good spin zone. Yeah, but if I called his office and said, here's my number, and call me back.
Yeah, you're right. And they went up to him and said, hey, Jim, Taylor LeJuan wants you to call him back.

And he said, no.

I would say good.

He probably would say who.

But that's also, he knows like four people.

You talking about the guy who's let down the Tennessee Titans 86%?

That's crazy.

Oh, the bus with the boys guy.

How bad do you wish you played for Arbaugh?

Because, I mean, Brady Hoke.

So bad.

Did I ask you this? Were you ever like like hey hey coach like maybe put the headset on like we're getting our ass kicked we're getting our ass kicked like show that you're trying here because Brady Hoke without the headset was always the funniest sight when Michigan was watching the game he was just enjoying it dude get involved yeah I don't know he had his own little deal he has own little. I think when Rich Rodriguez was there, everybody wanted Harbaugh.
As soon as Brady Hook got there, everyone was excited for a year, but then they wanted Harbaugh. Right.
And I just think those guys didn't have a fair shot the whole time. But then we got Harbaugh.
I wish I played for Harbaugh. It is great seeing the prodigal son go home and be able to do it, because when it doesn't go well, it's a disaster for the program.
It's Nebraska. What? I wasn't talking about you.
I'm saying it's Nebraska. Thank you, Will.
That's what I was doing. Okay, sorry.
I intercepted that. I'm so sorry.
Hey, that's an interception. I'm so sorry.
That's a big swing for Bustin' with the Boys. Your tent is still alive.
If you're keeping track of this game right now, we are handling time of possession. Wait, he's talking about Nebraska.
This is going to be perfect timing to drop this in. Hey, that's Nebraska.
Hey, that sounds like Nebraska. Wow, Will, you fucking, you're so smart, dude.
Do you think if Michigan wins the national championship, Harbaugh leaves? I do think he'll eventually go back to the NFL just because he's that competitive guy. I think he probably would.
I think it's, you know what, really? I don't even think it's as much for Harbaugh about, like, getting back to the NFL and winning a Super Bowl. As much as it is the fact that his brother beat him in the Super Bowl.
Right, right. And he just wants to get back to the NFL to beat his brother at football.
It's also, I'm a Big Ten guy. So, I think if Michigan gets to the national championship, plays Georgia, I will be rooting for Michigan.
but it also be one of those moments that if Michigan ends up winning I'll be like this is a mistake that I've made because Dave Portnoy's infinity stone will be complete and he will just like he's always it's always been he's had all his pro teams win and it's always been like Michigan's been bad so him having that like he is I what is it what's the who's the guy with the fuck yeah he's Thanos like it will just be over he will just be able to talk so much shit yeah about everything at all times but his pro teams really aren't it doesn't matter he has I mean he's got the Patriots which is just I mean Jesus Christ yeah he's got the Bruins. They've won.
They might not win again, the Patriots. The Red Sox have won.
Forever. But that's the problem.
They have, with six, the way Hank talks, and I believe him, he's like, yeah, it sucks having to watch them suck right now, but the best moments of my life are Patriots Super Bowls. He's like, I close my eyes and relive the best moments of my life.
If you think about it, growing up as a Patriots fan

or just like a New England sports fan in general,

you grow up a winner.

You think that you're a winner because all of your teams have won.

You've had the most historic dynasty in the history of football,

and you grow up immersed in that.

You just grow up being like, yeah, I am better than everybody else.

That's a very privileged sports lifestyle.

No, it's great.

It must be incredible.

With the Coyotes.

Sorry, the Cardinals. Go up with that.
Hank will tell us. He'll be like, yeah, it's so boring to watch Mac Jones play football.
Like, yeah, we know because that's our team's every year. Hank, how old are you? 29.
When was the last time the Patriots won? Like three years ago. 18? 18? 18.
What was that? No, was that 2019, right? See, this is a problem. He doesn't even, like, he can't eat all the years.
2016 was Atlanta. In Atlanta.
In Atlanta. Oh, against the Rams.
Yeah. That was such a boring game.
I had the over in that game. Did you really? Yeah.
Oh, my God. Well, that's a good bet because the Rams, they were scoring so many points.
I was like, how can this, like, Brady? God, peaking Rams. There's no way.
Yeah, that's understandable. Yeah.
There's a, yeah, I think the Patriots might be dead right now. All right.
Oh, I wanted to ask you about the Raiders. That's fallen apart since Willie left.
Do you think it's unfair that Derek Carr is, like, the scapegoat? Do I think it's what? Unfair that Derek Carr has become the scapegoat. Oh, absolutely.
That's fucked up. I saw something.
I think it was yesterday I was scrolling. I saw that Derek Carr's nine-year career, the defense overall in those nine years was ranked 32nd.
And I think it's just like, it's one of those things. It's like, how do you not win with that kind of roster to where you get to the point to where you've got to bench him for the final two games? You know what I mean? Like, there's two games left.
So I do think it's unfair the way it's going down. Like, yeah, you can argue that he's made some bad decisions with the football.
Like, I'm thinking just last week when he sailed it on Renfrew at the end end of the game that's a that's a tough throw um and that Tomlin clip after he was like he actually was saying in the headset before that play he's like invite him down the middle invite him down the middle so they were just basically letting him yeah like like look I'm not saying he's played perfect or he's like a you know one of the best quarterbacks in the league right uh but also you know putting him down in that manner and using him as the shield, like this is the reason that we're failing, I think is where it gets unfair, because that is ultimately what you're trying to show. It's saying like this is the calls have been there, yada, yada, yada.
Again, his whole resume, yes, he has blemishes on the resume, but the dude puts up, I mean, he's got an arm on him. He can win.
He can play. We went to the playoffs last year.
Won the last five games. With all the turmoil that happened and all the drama that happened last year, with Basaccio taking over, we end up going to the playoffs.
When you say we. Yeah.
Yeah, that's a fair point for you, Will. It's a fair.
I was wearing the silver and black. Yeah.
For the playoffs. No.
See. But when they won those games against the playoffs.
That's when you see what happened during that situation was. So you guys are the best because like you could basically just tell like when people make fun of you on Twitter, you're like, I'm a pro fucking athlete.
There's no, there's going to, it's not going to, I'm going to find some win. But that's what makes it so great.
That's where you thrive. I'm giving you an earnest compliment.
Like, there's not a lot of pro athletes that would let people, like, kind of talk shit back and forth to that level and not be like, you know what? It's all just, you know, busting balls. Yeah.
And really, I wasn't even catching on until you said the playoff thing. I'm so delusional.
I'm like, oh, yeah, I was in the playoffs. Well, you called yourself Playoff Willie.
I was on the field. We made T-shirts.
Where did the Playoff Willie nickname come from? Because it wasn't from the playoffs, right? It wasn't from the actual playoffs. I'm not even sure.
I want to say, like, it might have happened that night where it was the Chargers or where maybe when I got cut and then re-signed for the second time,

it was like playoff Willie getting into the playoffs.

I have no fucking clue.

Obviously, it's a playoff.

Playoff Lenny.

It was a playoff atmosphere.

For sure.

Yeah, because there's a win and end game.

So you had to win and end game.

So you had like a long play.

Yeah.

It's like an extended playoff.

Gotcha.

Yeah.

But that's kind of how it came to life.

And then I look back on my career and I'm like,

I've taken every team that I've been on to the playoffs.

That's true. That's a good point.
You know what I mean taken every team that I've been on to the playoffs. That's true.

That's a good point.

You know what I mean?

What about the Saints?

You went to the playoffs to the Redskins?

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

We did.

Yeah.

That was the – you liked that year.

That was a great year.

That was a great year.

Dude, that was a great year.

Green Bay Packers in the playoffs, right?

Yeah.

That was tough.

I literally – I go to my producer, and since I got the NFL Plus app,

I went back one day and was watching that game.

I was like, CJP, like if we would – if Deshaun Jackson would have just reached for the pylon and scored versus selling for a field goal. And then Aaron Rodgers, the next series, they get us on a substitution where they get us on a third down and they end up going down the score.
We take care of that. We win that game.
Do you think that Jay Gruden is going to get back in the league? The players liked him, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Players like Jay. Players like Jay.
I mean, he was really successful as an OC. I could see him getting back in the league, but again, I think a lot could be determined by John Gruden, right? His brother.
Right, his brother, yeah. What are we wrong about with Kirk Cousins as a teammate of his? Because we give him shit.
What do you think you're right about? Everything. I think I'm right about everything.
I do think it's weird how much you lean into the RG3 side versus the Kirk Cousins side. So, yeah, I just remember watching that rookie year.
The rookie year when RG3 came into the league, he made me fall in love with football again. The dude was unbelievable.
I'd never seen a quarterback play like that and certainly not wearing a Washington Redskins uniform ever. And he was incredible.
Now, there was a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that you get a little bit older and you see like more the totality of it you're like oh yeah i bet i bet he was a real pain in the ass to deal with sometimes as a coaching staff or as a front office um but like at his ceiling rg3 was the best quarterback in the nfl yeah and at his well well you best quarterback in the nfl when he was with you up until he was. He was electric.
He was electric. He was electric.
When he was at his best... Because the back half of the year is when they went on the run and made it to the playoffs.
When he was at his best, I would take him above any quarterback at that time. And people were saying, Jerry Jones was like, I can't believe I have to play against that guy for the next 15 years.
I felt good about that.

I felt good about being a Redskins fan for the first time in a long time.

And then Kirk Cousins took over.

And it's just like, I mean, we talked about it on your show, Will.

But like, he is just good enough to get your hopes sky high.

And then just bad enough to crumble them into dust.

And that's year upon year after year of dealing with that. That's when I just became like, I can't stand this guy anymore.
I can't do it. Yeah, I don't know.
I think it all depends, right? Because you can even make the argument, I was telling you when we were talking about it, it was that like, it's not like the organization was in favor. They were playing half in, half out with them the entire time.
Yeah, that's true. You know what I'm saying? It's not like they were giving him a contract like he should have earned and had.
Oh, I think that Kirk Cousins is the best money earner in the history of the NFL. Absolutely.
So when you look at what Kirk's done, he played on the franchise tag two years in a row, right? And then he got fully guaranteed money from the Vikings, and then he's getting more fully guaranteed money. He's going to make $300 million playing football by the time he retires, which is crazy.
Good for him. I'm happy that he's made all that money.
He played it correctly, especially when your own front office is unwilling to come to you with a long-term contract and say, we're going to make you do it year upon year on one-year deals. Yeah, I't blame it all for for playing it the way that he's done it i think that's actually good for for other players that are coming up behind him so the money aspect is off the table i'm just saying from a fan perspective it's very frustrating when you have a guy that's just good enough to get your hopes up and then also at the same time so cautious that he'll never take that next step to being like the best of the best.
I mean, outside of a few guys in the league, I feel like it's like that for everybody. It's probably unfair sometimes Kirk Cousins because he's good enough to then be put in that category of like, all right, these are the top half of the league or top 10 quarterbacks, right? He's in the playoffs like every year.
Right, right. It's just he doesn't – the issue I always have with him is like to take that next step, and it's a very small group of players, quarterbacks that can win you a game, not have the – you know what I mean? I know it's a team sport, but, like, a Rodgers, a Mahomes, an Allen – Josh Allen's got it.
He's our best friend, but he's got to prove it still. A Brady, like, all these guys, like, they will win you a game.
They will do something special when things aren't going great to win you the game. And that's the next step of quarterbacks.
I don't know if he's not there in my mind. So does he got to win a Super Bowl to prove that wrong, I guess? Yeah, if he wins a Super Bowl, it's just we get tramp stamps.
Didn't he have a game this year? Was it against the Bills? Yeah. No, he's been really good.
He's been really good this year. Because usually he can't win the big game or a playoff game, and then he ended up he's been really really good until he wins a super bowl i don't think he's gonna get what everybody if he gets ultimately what you allude to we said that if he gets them to a super bowl yeah we'll get a tattoo if he wins a super bowl we're getting his face tattoo he's been really really good this year you can't take anything away i don't have i'm gonna get a plaid hat he could be in the MVP debate.
What? He could be in the MVP debate. Yeah.
Who? I like that. I do think Justin Jefferson should be actually looked at as the MVP.
I agree. I made that argument on Monday because it's like he – if you took him off the team, I know Mahomes, the Chiefs.
Mahomes, unfortunately, gets the fatigue effect where it's like he's so good and out of this world good that we are, like, numb to it. So Mahomes could win the MVP every year no matter what, right? Right.
Like, that's just how good he is. But if you're talking about everyone else, like Justin Jefferson, if you took him off the team, I think the Vikings have, like, four or five less wins.
Yeah. Like, it's crazy to say.
I agree with you. But he's that important and that dominant as a receiver.
Yeah, I agree with you. Sam Bradford, by the way, easiest sack quarterback in the NFL.
Yeah, also the best finessed moneymaker in the NFL. And the sleeves.
Long sleeves. He got – everyone teed off sacks on him.
Yeah, very long sleeves. I even got a sack on.
That was – you got – Did you get it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, hey, once I was about to say it, I was like – You're really good at that.
You're incredibly good at that. Once I was about to say it, I was like, oh, here we go.
I even had a second. I'm like looking at Big Cat.
Hold on. Hold on.
This guy. Highest paid sack ever.
Highest paid sack ever. Ever.
Seven and a half mil. Yeah.
Incredible. JJ Watt would never.
Way north of five. Yeah, could never.
JJ Watt could never. Could never.
Who's better, JJ Watt or TJ Watt? JJ right now, TJ will be. JJ stays up.
No, no, no. Honestly, I, J.J.
Watt or T.J. Watt? J.J.
right now, T.J. will be.
J.J. stays up.
No, no, no. Honestly, I think J.J.
Watt is in the conversation for best defensive player of all time. I think he's top three.
His peak is top three. Him, Lawrence Taylor, because he won three defensive players of the year in a four-year span, which is ridiculous.
He is obviously longevity in the injuries, but you have like Terrell Davis, who his longevity, those three years he was incredible. J.J.
Watt's peak was insane. Did you have to go up against him? All the time.
No, in his peak? In his peak? Yeah. I played him 14, 15, 16.
How scary was it when he was in his peak? Well, J.J. Hey, check out one of his most recent Instagram posts.
That'll tell you how it went. Oh, no.
J.J.''ll tell you how it went. Or Taylor's? No, Taylor's.
Oh, no. Wait, did you post an Instagram of another man beating you in football? Yeah, go ahead and look at that.
Okay, wait. I have a real question about JJ Watt because he couldn't be me.
The craziest part about JJ Watt and his peak is that, like, when you watch a football game, a defensive end, or, you know, he moved around some, but, like, those, but those guys have six or seven plays they have to come off the field.

Five or six maybe, right?

Yeah.

He would just be the same guy from start to finish.

When you're playing against him, why is this guy not getting tired?

I think – so I played J.J. Watt from 14 to when did he go to the Cardinals?

Two years ago?

Yeah.

To 20.

So I played him twice a year for seven years. That's a question for Frank.
What's that? That's a question for Frank.J. Watt from 14 to when did he go to the Cardinals? Two years ago to 20.
So I played him twice a year for seven years. What's that? It's a question for Frank.
Yeah. I played him twice a year for seven years.
What J.J. does so well is he'll go left tackle, left guard, center, right guard, right tackle.
Right. What do you love? No, Frank's taking the power now.
He's repowering. Frank is such a unique human being.
He's downloading to our episode. No,, no, no.
You shouldn't have done that. So, like, what he does is he literally, in the first two series of the game, he goes down the line and finds out who's having an off day.
That's crazy. And he literally will go and expose him because he can rush the passer from any position, which is incredible.
Right. So, my rookie year, obviously, when I was playing him, the first person he lines up on is me.
Now, I don't know if it was God or fate or what, but those 25 snaps I played might have been the best 25 snaps of my life. Right.
Like I, for whatever reason, played well. For whatever reason.
And since then. Talent, baby.
Let's go. Yeah, yeah.
But since then, I've probably seen JJ in those next six years, I don't know, 30 more snaps. Right.
He would kind of just leave me alone from then on. Which was cool.
Yeah cool. So, yeah.
Except for the Cardinals game when he was on the Cardinals. So, this one, is that from your rookie year? That's the game I tore my ACL in 2020.
Oh. Oh, okay.
Yeah. Did he tear your ACL? No.
No, I tore my own. Was he? No one makes me bleed my own blood.
I did that shit to myself. Was he on the field for the Cardinals game last year? No.
No. Yes.
Yeah, he was. But I think the first series they realized hey chandler jones is gonna have the left tackle and then we'll just have jj play wherever else he wants that's kind of how that game went when did you finally feel like mentally you were over that game i think we're still doing a lot of process that's the type of stuff that you guys like need more credit for because like that game i would just walk off the field like I'm done forever.
Dude, I remember after that game, I went up in the suite to see my wife, and everybody left, and it was just her sitting there. And I kind of just sat down next to her, and I go, I don't think I've ever gotten my ass beat like that ever in my entire life.
And statistically, it wasn't my worst game I've ever played, but man, did I get thrown around like a rag doll forever. And the clips were bad.
And the thing that's so wild to me is before that game i was like i'm about to go crazy on chandler jones i remember this game i so i was wearing in that game the same cleats i wore when i tore my acl it was like this big thing i was like hey you're wearing the same cleats you're gonna go out you're gonna do x y and z and buddy the first play of the game we're like hey we're running behind you taylor we call it the play i can't say what it is because we're able to get mad but it's an outside zone open side and i got i got chandler jones i take a hard step i'm charging at him as fast as i can he just olays me tfl the next series play action pass sack the series the next third down sack and i was just like what the fuck? And it's the first quarter. Like if you're in, if you're playing a game as an offensive lineman, you get to that second half, you're like, all right, no sacks.
Let's just keep that, let's ride that out. You could have some bad run plays.
You could have some close calls with the quarterback. But if you give up a sack, it's like, all right, no, you can't have more than one.
Right, right, right. That's ridiculous.
And then we hit this two-minute drill right before half. And Chandler Jones goes into a three technique.
I go god i don't have my lookout it's buda baker i'm like i'm about to toss this thing he gets off the edge because i watch film on him and he's fast as fuck so i started going back and buddy that was probably the most embarrassing clip but the one with yeah yeah and people were just tweeting it non-stop oh dude oh yeah when that happens it's Like, how's like, how do you outlive it? How can I ever come back from that? But then you get farther and farther away from it, and it's funny to laugh at now. It's football.
Yeah, it's football. The highlight that Chandler Jones had against Mac Jones is probably now the first thing that people think about when it comes to a Mac.
Yeah. And Buda Baker got caught by DK Metcalf.
Yeah. So there you go.
He got wiped out. It's like rock, paper, scissors.
Everyone's got something back. Everyone's beating somebody else.
Yeah, right. Everyone gets got at some point.
And Will got Sam Bradford. The worst game I ever played, though, was against Whitney Merciless.
Yeah? Yeah, Whitney Merciless tore me up one game in Houston. I had a bunch of stingers, and they gave me an epidural in my neck.
Oh. And before the game, it shuts down your nerves when you do that.
So I was trying to lift a 25-pound plate over my head, and I couldn't. Have you ever had that? What? Where they do an epidural in your neck or anything like that? Oh, like lidocaine.
All right. That shuts down your nerves.
Like a patch? So I literally couldn't lift a weight over my head. What injury did you have? I was getting a bunch of stingers in my neck.
Oh, yeah. And so I couldn't lift it over my head, and they're like, hey, you're fine.
Go out and play. And, buddy, he put a put a clinic on me.
It was my second year. He put a clinic on me also.
I'm trying to think what the podcasting equivalent of your game, your five sack game would be. I feel like six racial slurs.
Yeah, probably racial slurs. If someone dropped a hard end right now, I feel like that would probably be.
Well, yeah, that would probably be pretty bad. That would be very bad.
That's Riley Cooper if he ever gets a podcast. Yeah.
That was a tough week. Buddy, it was a tough month.
Did you text him right away? Because the next week we played Seattle and I hyperextended my knee. You gave it a minute.
I had some in the chamber in the library for meme videos and stuff, but I was like, oh, no, this is. You just got too bad.
Will came over to the house that night, and we just sat on my couch in my man cave, and I literally, Will and I did not speak. I was just on my iPad watching the film over and over.
There's not a whole lot. You can't do nothing.
That's a good friend though. Just being with him.
I think I called him. I was like, I need you.
That's a really good friend. Cause I, in that spot, I probably would have like come over and been like, dude, you got fucking worked.
Yeah. And then it's funny.
Is it that way? It made it way worse. I think Will gave me a grace until the end of the season.

Once the season ended,

the Buda Baker comments

started coming out,

Chandler Jones comments

started coming out.

I just needed to hear Taylor

chirp me a time or two

to where it's like,

okay, we're back.

He probably kept his mouth shut

a little bit because he knew

that you had that chip on him.

Maybe.

Yeah, it probably made you guys closer.

I wish I could pull up clips of Will,

but there's not that many.

Well, Sam Bradford, you have to get Sam Bradford. You have to go back in the archive.
Well, I got a game for you. We can talk offline.
What game? Big Ten Championship game. No, please don't.
When Wisconsin ran for 500 yards. There was like a highlight video.
I was at that game. That comes up every year.
We had like three guys go over 100 yards. Melvin Gordon had like two 50s.
I know. The only thing anybody remembers in that game is Kenny Bell's hit, though.
He does huge what you do to me with Kirk Cousins. But I don't think I'm doing anything to you with Kirk Cousins.
No, you're talking about him. And he triggers me.
How many times did you have in that game? I don't know. That's truly like – Not enough? It's – I've figured out a way, I guess, to deal with it, but also not really.
Like that truly like lives in my head. Yeah I see it, and I'm like, fuck, man.
I hope not many people see this clip. Who would you say in the NFL? And then they do, and I'm like, damn.
Because there's one where I'm out in space, and I just can't fucking catch the motherfucker, dude. It was Melvin Gordon, right? Yeah.
It was just running all. Any of those running backs, bro.
I think it was like 500 yards. And also, Melvin Gordon had the – he had like 350 or something.
Remember that game? The next year. No, I was gone.
And I was actually thankful that that happened because then it kind of puts what happened the year before. It's like, no, Melvin Gordon is just that good.
I'm like, hey, did you guys see that Melvin Gordon had 350 yards? Like, damn, that's crazy. That linebacker sucks.
Yeah, they gave him a lot of yards. In today's NFL, Will, who would you say reminds you of you? It was Luke Keaton.
Yeah, I was going to say it was Luke Keaton. Matt Milano, maybe? Yeah.
Matt Milano's a good one. Yep.
Yeah. Matt Milano's a really good one.
Oh, Rodrigo? Yeah. I like him because of hard knocks.
Yeah. I like Rodrigo because of hard knocks.
Yeah. Who else is out there that's repping the culture? I mean, look, it is what it is.
Like it's a dying breed out there. You got to respect the ones who are out there still doing it.
There's a, uh, you're like the white rhinos. Yeah.
Literally. There's a, there's a defensive back for Wyoming.
He's playing later on today in the barstool bowl. His name is Buck Coors.
That's fucking awesome. We have Parker Titsworth.
That's his real name. The center for Ohio.
Two great names. Great names.
You almost took pride when the boys were back. Hey, Comp, you're the only white guy on defense.
And your name's Compton. That always helped me bit.
That always helped me out a little bit. Just a little bit of respect.

It's like, is he black?

No, he's white.

No shit.

It was like, Compton, how do you feel being the only white guy out here?

I'm like, I'm just a white guy surviving a black man's game, boy.

He's like, I'm trying my damnedest out here.

We're trying my damnedest out here. We talked a little bit on.

Is that something that needs to be cut?

No, no, no.

You can say black.

Yeah, I know, but I felt like when I said it, the response,

it wasn't like the locker room.

When I said it in the locker room, everybody laughed. Well, yeah, it felt like a line you've said a lot, and then you say it somewhere else.
It's like, wait, what? We're all just white guys sitting around here like, I think that was okay. He said his teammates said that, right? No, I swear the black guys laughed at that.
That's pretty much what you went for. Swear to God, guys.
I'll back Will up on this because he actually was actually was voted a captain which is crazy to think like undrafted to being a team captain on the redskins so somebody somebody liked you on that defense like did you did that catch you completely by surprise when you're named captain uh yeah absolutely i mean it's not like like that year i was literally like you're trying to just vie for a starting spot because they didn't draft nobody, so you feel good. You knew you were going in the offseason.
They didn't pick up anybody. You're like, fuck, they kind of believe in the boy.
And then when I got voted captain, like that's definitely – like I told you on that pod too, like that's probably my favorite like accolade and accomplishment like looking back on my career as like being voted captain because I'm sitting in there with Trent Williams, D'Angelo Hall, Kirk Cousins, Niles Paul. Shout out to all the boys.
But no, that was probably the coolest. That was fucking awesome.
All right, so we got to start doing rehearsal for the Barstool Arizona Bowl. We got to start? Today.
So we were just getting into the government? Wolf of Will Street. Yeah.
Well, I wanted to do two announcements.

So one is that you guys are going to join us on a stream for wildcard weekend.

Can we lock it in?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Taylor.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

So wildcard weekend, you guys are going to fly to New York.

We'll do both days.

It's going to be awesome.

Saturday, Sunday.

Saturday, Sunday.

Gambling stream that you guys will gamble and I will be there not gambling.

Right.

Not gambling. And also if the Dolphins do make the playoffs and you guys have to sit there with Frank you'll probably never come back but that's fine he's laughing in the corner that's a great laugh we we know he knows too he's like he knows that like you guys will be there and it won't go well and you'll be like I can't do this Is the gambling cave, is that like sponsored by the sports book?

Probably.

We can, I mean, if you need, I mean.

It's not me.

It's not me.

I'm not talking about me.

Right, right, right.

There's only one other person, but I'm not talking about myself.

Right, right, right, right.

We'll figure it out.

Am I the other person?

Yeah.

Okay.

I think it's okay.

I think we just talk about it.

I will not be gambling on this show.

Yeah, like you do, like the Arizona Bowl,

it had to be things that had nothing to do with it. Yeah, yeah, no, we'll figure it out.
can take the graphic down for that yeah yeah we'll be fine and the other one is you guys are both uh should we announce it right now moving to chicago so what's that laugh what's that laugh oh so it's gonna be awesome uh yeah i mean that's definitely the conversation that's being had multiple conversations that need to be had. Real ones.
Not like you surprise us every time we come to you. How would you rate my, like if I were a recruiter, our living room conversations that we've had? Have I done an okay job as a recruiter? Yeah, I think you do a good job.
Okay. I do.
I think you do a good job. I got to put it a little more on him.
It's tough because he's got a lot of money, so he doesn't have to do anything. It's like biz and wit.
It's not a half-two thing. It's a one-two thing.
Yeah, right, right. Exactly.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's like Ryan Whitney. Well, the Chicago Bears love tight ends.
Don't they have like 18 tight ends? Ooh, get the Bears? You get your Ryan Poles. When's your contract up? You got another year? Oh, no.
I'll be cut. I'll be free.

I'll be free.

Don't you worry.

I will be on the free agency market.

I will be cut.

I will be cut, boys.

Have you talked of raves?

Well, it still hurt.

Yeah, it's going to hurt.

That's why I'm getting out in front of it.

Hey, guys, guess what?

Hey, guess what?

I know I'm going to get cut so cool.

What do you say about raves?

I was just curious.

When the GM got fired, we were like, shit, that guy sucked. Maybe he wasn't going to cut me.
No, no, no. John was for sure going to cut me.
And the new guy's going to cut you, too. The new guy's going to cut me as well.
He's going to look at the map and be like, oh, two ACLs in three years? See you, bub. They could hire your mom and she'd cut you.
Yeah. She'd look at the cap and be like, wow, we got to do it.
I hope the GM now for the Titans, the interim GM, Ryan, I hope he keeps the job. That dude's awesome.
Oh, nice. This is good.
This is smart, buttering him up. That's a good play.
That's a good play. And also that Buda Baker play that never happened.
Never happened. Never happened.
So don't even look at the tape. Right.
If it plays again, I'm going to sue everybody. So don't do that.
Delete this. Delete this.
So you don't think Kirk Cousins was the best option that the Redskins have had in the last decade? No, Taylor Heineke actually has a better win-loss percentage than Kirk Cousins does. If you want to talk math, also Taylor Heineke has never missed the target on his own gender reveal.
I'll say this. I'll say this.
I'm not going to say one bad word about Heineke because he's a stud. He's one of the boys.
He is a boy. I'm going to get carried away because the Carson Wentz news that was announced two days ago.
That's what I'm saying. Heike's not even the quarterback right now, so I don't understand why that's your argument.
I'm a blazing ball of rage because I have to root for Carson Wentz for the next two weeks and meaningful football games. You're going to see the quarterback that you wish you had advance in the playoffs.
Kirk Cousins? Yeah. Maybe that's part of it.
Maybe that's part. Maybe it's because I'm blinded with rage and I secretly want Kirk Cousins back and this is my defense mechanism is just absolutely hating his guts.
And loving all the other ones. Yeah, it's like, you know, the one that got away.
You're like, I don't want her anyways. Yeah, I don't need him.
We don't need him. Yeah.
Fuck it. I'm better off without him.

Yeah.

I got Taylor Heineke.

Yeah.

Go with the prettier girl.

They're just going to fail you

once you get to the big dance.

Yeah.

Who thinks you?

Do the rehearsal.

Pete.

We were supposed to do rehearsal

two and a half hours.

I know.

I know.

Last thing I was going to say is

tier one in AWL's.

Handshake.

We do need a common ground handshake.

Strong.

Strong.

We're all rolling in the same boat.

Do you think people still think

we're not on the same team

as much as we've been there back

Thank you. handshake we do need a common ground handshake strong strong we're all we're all rolling in the same boat do you think people still think we're not on the same team as much i think there's still some people online who like don't realize that we're actually friends and they're like they're really like talking shit to each other but that's just the internet yeah that's always fun anyone watches any of our shows has got to realize nothing serious right and it's very funny too because when you guys will like bash me or something like you guys will text me before be like there's some tape coming out want to get ahead of it i know we have to go but how did you feel when you saw that clip about me talking about your weight it is what it is i listen 2023 is the hard body year i'm gonna get a hard body people like hank haters hanks more of a tier one i did see haters.
And Hank. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. He's the biggest hater I got.
You don't think he can go hard body? Hard body. Oh, I'm going hard body.
I'm losing 25 pounds in 2023. Are you going to do it the natural way? Or are you going to do it the Liver King way? If someone could maybe give me a hookup for the Liver King way, I'm open for business.
Billy, Will, and Jack. I don't trust Billy.
Billy doesn't. Will, would you know anything about that? No, he started pointing at me.
Oh, okay. Somebody in here might be able to relax.
Dude, you did that whole, you read off that paper, and then you're like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm not going to read off the paper.
I'm talking to the camera. How was that? That was so bad.
We did like three takes. That was so, oh, we could tell.
Yeah, you did good. You did good.
You're like,'re like you know what I'm gonna do this from the heart Okay

That's before

We didn't know each other

I saw it was in your smoothie right

Someone put something in your smoothie

No

What are you gonna do

I did not knowingly take anything

I'm going to my grave

Right

No the smoothie

Just use the smoothie

It's a smoothie

You went to a Jamba Juice

Next thing you know

Pop for PEDs

Or just GNC

I got contaminated

The 17 year old GNC

Told me that this was good

This is good to go

And I could use it yeah

Thank you. juice next thing you know pop for peds or just gnc just like everyone got contaminated it got it's a crazy good to go and i could use it yeah hey i can't stand when i'm getting put on trial over here and you're talking to me i'm trying to listen to you yeah but then they're laughing about something i didn't hear yeah did it make you feel stronger i felt pretty good i felt good i legit in my head i was like i remember that off season being like fuck dude i look good this is incredible yeah this jamba juice that i get every day i got a text i stayed in encinitas california and the guy who stayed there who owns the place sends me a picture of a letter he's like hey man i saw this letter i opened it i'm sorry but here's the here's the letter and it was the letter saying i failed for a pvEP.
Wait, the guy texted you? He texted me that. You can't do that.

You've got to put that letter back in.

It's a federal offense, Johnny.

It's a federal offense.

Yeah.

But yeah, he sent that to me

and I was like, dude,

that was a miserable experience.

Miserable.

Did you appeal it?

Yeah, I appealed it,

but there's nothing you can do.

Yeah, what's the appeal like?

Are you sure?

There's only one person in NFL history

to ever be popped for something

and I guess get away with it or like Peyton Manning's wife? No. Dwayne Brown.
Dwayne Brown went to Mexico, had like 14 cheeseburgers. Yeah.
And there was something in the meat. He popped something.
He had to go to the seat. And that's the only thing.
That's incredible. Too many cheeseburgers in Mexico works.
Who eats cheeseburgers in Mexico? Yeah, it's a good test. That's an odd.
I mean, they make a jack. PEDs in the year 10.
And the union not fighting for the boys. Huh? The union not fighting for the boys.
That's one thing we have in common. Yeah, that's true.
The union is bad. Do you remember when it was Ontario Smith, I think? They busted him.
The wisdomator. Because he got caught with a fake dick.
Yeah. He had a fake dick that was attached to a Ziploc bag.
So when he had to do The drug test He just You know Because they watch you pee Apparently Which That's gotta be weird right When they're like No I was put in the drug program My rookie year So I peed in front of people Like seven times a month Really But the best thing to do Like when you can't pee Is obviously go too That's when it gets weird Because you gotta have the door open They're sitting there Looking at you Yeah Watch you take a shit Yeah but that also is like I mean your kids are old enough your kid is not old enough yet like my son watched me piss every day every day talking about your kids i'm talking about another grown man it's like all right oh no but he just he points it he's like look you're peeing out of your penis i'm like thanks dude did you ever get girls daddy you get a weird foofy i'm like oh god can you not the drug guy came in, okay, you have to pee in front of me. Did you ever have to be like, can you give me a second? Like, I got to mentally.
If I don't have to pee, and I'm trying to actually think about it, I need some time. Like, I need to flip something on.
Like, noise needs to be going down. Yeah, yeah.
He's a scary little boy. He doesn't want to come out all the time.
That's got to be the worst job in the world, right? I want to come case race yeah speaking of are we gonna do a can i get in a case race or what yes there's birthdays coming up in january so we need that schedule yeah we should probably do the same thing as wildcard weekend maybe do it friday oh we could yeah we could do it friday make a whole weekend out of it we could saturday will be miserable miserable it's my v's though yeah get some tordol for theal for the stream Yes Frank on Tordal would be great Yes Frank was sprinting all over the building dude He's like holy shit He would be feeling good He would just bite right through his hat Just snap his ass I'll tell you what He does need to You need to work on that anger a little bit Frank Because when we were in In-N-Out Burger You were chewing the shit out of that shirt Yeah I can't imagine how many shirts you go through a football season. If he's on Tortal, he's just ripping off.

Yeah, we started talking about

Tua and he just... I don't want to

even get into it. Yeah, you grab the glasses.

Is it a bit?

No, no. Frank is the real deal.
That's

why he's the best. He's as real

as it gets. If anything has come out of

this weekend and we've only been here for a couple hours, it's...

I fucking love Frank.

I really enjoy him. Our little In-N-Out trip was nice.

Oh, yeah. How was it now? What do you guys think about

the In-N-Out versus five guys?

Don't worry. this weekend and we've only been here for a couple hours it's i fucking love frank yeah i really enjoyed our trip was nice oh yeah how was it now what do you guys think about the in and out first five guys don't even answer it all right well we got yeah scott frost it happened with the brass thank you boys appreciate it five guys everyone check out will and taylor gonna be on the on the broadcast doing stuff for the bar Barstool Arizona Bowl.
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Okay. Let's wrap it up.
Fire fest of the week. Uh, we do have a lottery ball machine.
Hank has a chance at the end of this show. We taped it, uh, last week when we're still in the office, his, uh, last chance to either hit it two times in a row or hit it for the first time.
You don't know what animate no this is the penultimate but i'm saying he's gonna have one more chance to either hit it two times in a row or hit it for the first time or not get it again on sunday's show when we're back in studio yeah so my fire fest is related to that uh you know it's a lot of people every time i go out and stoolies they they come up to me they say a number it's basically the only thing people talk to me about wait have you ever gotten it i have not ever gotten it and it has reached the the local news in oregon yeah uh k kval channel 13 cvs uh yeah hayden one of the news anchors in the middle of their segment was like i have a friend uh named henry who i AWOs are all friends, but he's like, I have a friend named Henry.

He's a friend.

He's a friend of mine.

Who's been guessing balls forever and he's never gotten it.

So that was just like, didn't need to see that.

I'll just, we're in the trust tree.

I was just reading all the replies to your quote treat of that

and just giggling, laying in bed because everyone was just like, dude, why don't you just get it right why don't you have you ever thought about getting it and it's the dumbest joke ever but it makes me laugh so much because why don't you just get it right it's crazy to think that everybody else has gotten it yeah just pick the number all you have to do is pick it i would say that probably of AWO, my favorite is when AWOs reply to tweets and being like,

Hank, I hadn't gotten it either until three months ago,

and I was riding in my car and I got it.

You guys, I mean, I drove out here with my friend Devin,

and we were talking about it, and he was earnestly.

Like, why don't you just pick it?

No, no, he earnestly said, has everyone else gotten it?

Yes.

And I was like.

Have you practiced, Hank?

No.

You should practice.

I tried that with roulette.

Here's the tip.

Then we'll see you're good. Yeah.
Yeah, you'll just pick the right number. New year, new May.
Just try that. I will.
Never going to get it. Never, ever going to get it.
You're never going to get it. Have you thought about that? Just never getting it? No, every getting every day i think about like if we do this show for another 20 years and you still don't get it i don't know i know do you do you even want the five thousand dollars yeah oh you need it yeah you're not acting like it oh well just wait just wait it's all gonna be i'm just boiling it all in I'm going to let it all out once I get it.
When did you get it on the last one? I mean, I get it right now. What if I get it right now? Actually, that would...
We spoiled today. Hey, spoiler alert.
Hank didn't get it because he fucking sucks at getting it. So the last one will be January 1st.
It would actually suck if Hank got this because nobody would believe that it's true. Not because it's the last one of the year.
It's not rigged. They would not think that it was rigged because it was like the last one for the money.
We've all built up. They would just not believe it because there's no way that Hank can get it.
The only person who has a fair rigged comment is memes because we did do an audit and we couldn't find the number three balls missing. But we think it may have happened when you left the door open.
Right. It means.
now but memes is because three every episode so that's funny but even he's got me yeah he got it he got it and most of his don't even count back we have to find that three ball or find a replacement or we'll just put it in a replacement all right uh pft your fire fest my fire fest of the week is i've got a friend, and he has been really struggling recently.

It's really been heartbreaking to see him go through.

You know, sometimes in life you have awkward stuff that happens, bad stuff, things that we can joke about.

But sometimes it's like real serious stuff.

And my friend has never gotten the lottery ball correct.

He's been trying to guess it, and it's really been affecting me i've been

trying to be a good friend about it but it's just so much more fun to make fun of not getting it so i've been i've been having the angel on one shoulder the demon on the other um but it is pretty funny that he hasn't got it yet i'm not gonna lie you kind of scared me here i thought something happened yeah something did happen hank sucks getting a lottery ball yeah

just pick it right

not okay because you can't do that

you can't follow the very simple instructions. It's made me feel like a loser hanging out with him.
That's my Fyre Fest. Yeah.
All right, my Fyre Fest is 2023 is going to be my hard body year. I'm going to get in shape.
Max is coming with me. We're going on a journey, a journey to our physical cores.
Uh, but what happens, and this is probably why I've ballooned up, uh, year after year. What happens before I've decided I'm going to do a diet.
I just eat everything. So I've been doing that for three weeks now where it's like naughty ice cream on a Monday, cheesesteak every day fries for lunch it's gotten to the point where i'm disgusted with myself i feel gross uh but january 1st new me watch hank i'll be watching oh i'm gonna i'm gonna do the thing you can't do and actually just get get it right i'm gonna do both oh okay we are gonna get hot i believe i believe in everybody we all gonna get hard bodies yeah we're gonna listen you're not gonna see a hotter podcast in the world than us should we do it should we do it uh we should do like an office total weight challenge versus another podcast okay uh who should we go up against call her daddy oh okay Nice, nice.
Good fingers crossed he gets pregnant i just got a reminder for hank to read the bonk list uh we're doing that on wednesday okay yeah you missed the start of the show because you're a slacker uh i was in a production meeting in the truck for the for the game all right jake finish this off okay this is going to be a youtube exclusive whoa you guys You guys are going to get the reaction. You're pregnant? Oh.
Ready? You're back on the shit. Oh, no.
Jake. Jake, wait.
I am holding a bottle of Afrin. No spray.
The Florida weather, the allergies, they got me really bad. The seasonal allergies.
I was very stuffy. I'm good right now.
Most people go to Florida being like, oh, this is nice. Like, clear up what I got because I'm not in the cold.
I slept really well last night. Listen.
Oh, God. Jake, you're back on the hard stuff.
I couldn't even do that yesterday. Jake, can I give you some advice? Yeah.
Start smoking. Ew.
Smoke some sinks. Jake might help your voice tomorrow.
A little raspy. No, I got cough jobs.
No, no, no. But to reverse it, I'm saying, to make you a little bluesy.
Make you sound like a man. Yeah.
Yeah. Have your balls dropped.
The problem last time is it says on the box, don't do it more than three days in a row. And you didn't follow the box.
Correct. Which is illegal, and we should call the cops.
Yeah. Also, a little programming note, I'm calling a basketball game on Sunday back in New York.
Hell yes. ESPN 3, 4 p.m., Manhattan versus Quinnipiac.
Let's go. Oh, awesome.
Quinnipiac. We're being big cat or professors at Quinnipiac.
That's awesome. What time? 4 p.m.
Eastern. I'm saying.
So we'll have it on in the game. If it never aired, did that ever happen? Yeah.
Yes, we taught a class there. We did teach a class there.
I'm actually going back to back Sundays. Don't try to bring us down to your level.
Next Sunday, I'm calling your game against Niagara. He's calling two? Yeah, Sunday and Sunday.
Fuck yes. 4 p.m.
this Sunday. I will bet it, and you better call it correctly.
Do my best. Okay.
Wait, who's Quinnipiac playing? Manhattan. Who's hosting? Okay.
I feel like that's a good... I i'm supporting you i'm gonna bet it i'm gonna watch it appreciate it and if you fuck up the call yeah on the over under i'll be upset fair tough love arizona bowl that's awesome and wow you're calling three games in a week this is like when when joe buck calls the world series workload yeah jake our boys growing up we're gonna have to we're gonna have to make a graphic of like how jake got from the arizona bowl all the way up to new york to call in two days yeah also just a heads up to everyone out there i know it's an nfl sunday but if you don't uh open up your computer and turn on the game while jake's calling it uh you're a scumb, and I hope you get hit by a bus.
Yep. Fair? Exactly.
Okay. Also, final housekeeping note.
This is my last chance to lock in. Yeah, I missed the first half of the show, but last flex of the year.
Also, did you guys take your refresher? You're 0 for 3 on flexing. Yeah, I know, but I'm not 0 for whatever it is.
All right. Oh, the lottery ball? True, true, true.
Oh, you sounded like the hungry dogs. No, no, no.
The hungry dog won. Hank won the hungry dog.
Yeah, he did. He won the hungry dog.
Asterix. So we actually are getting two Saturday games next week.
Week 18. Really? Yeah.
Huh? What? We're getting two Saturday games on week 18 and the normal Sunday night flex. So they're announcing all of that after this week's set of games.
Oh, my God. All right.
So what do you think is going to be flexed? So I think Sunday night should be the AFC South. It should be Titans-Jaguars because Sunday night? You don't think so? NFL rigged.
You ready for this? NFL rigged. They don't want to put the Jaguars.
Nope. NFL rigged.
Ravens are going to win and the Billsills are going to win. NFL rigged.
Ravens, Bengals for the AFC North. NFL rigged.
I feel like that's going to be one of the – NFL rigged. I think those three games will be the flex.
I don't know the order. Ravens, Bengals.
Packers, Lions, and the AFC South. Well, you have to call it.
You have to call which ones you think. Now, wait.
If the Commanders lose this week, I could see it being Lions, being lions packers because the winner of that yeah yeah he's got that as one of his three i think do you guys agree it'll be those three yeah i mean we're not the we're not we don't make picks for yeah go ahead clearly i don't either i think i could see the lines being sunday football go ahead they usually do your segment that you create i know i'm so bad at it what if it's dolphins jets also then we eliminate them on the table but also that's i don't know two fingers um they usually do the winner goes to the playoffs loser goes out so i'll stick with afc south all right i like last time jags were on sunday football i the packers lions would be that though would it not Lions Packers Lions would be winner. Oh, yeah.
Crap. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm not.

I. The Packers-Lions would be that, though.
Would it not?

Packers-Lions would be winner.

Oh.

Yeah.

Crap.

Yeah.

That actually is going to be Sunday football.

I'm not going to bail out.

And the Lions, that would be Sunday football.

Yeah.

I can't switch, right?

I mean, like.

No, you can.

Yes, you made this segment up.

You can do whatever you want. Also, last week, the NFL even waited to announce the flex.

Did you guys see that?

Bullshit.

Yeah. All right, so make your pick.
Official pick the flex. Did you guys see that? Bullshit.
Yeah.

All right, so make your pick.

Official pick.

Okay.

Lions, Packers, Sunday night.

Those two Saturday games will be Ravens, Bengals, and AFC South.

Okay.

All right.

That will be an awesome week.

I just screwed myself because if I'm wrong, I'm like, should have stuck with my gut.

If I'm right, you get the assist.

Yep.

I do think that the Jaguars, Titans, it has Saturday night energy to it.

Yeah.

Big time. Big time.
But yeah, Saturday week 18 doubleheader is great. Yeah.
That's going to be awesome. New feature.
Thank you, Commissioner Goodell. Also, next year, Monday Night Football can be flexed at a certain point.
Whoa. Yeah.
Okay. I got to look at the details.
That was definitely a Joe Buck's contract. By the way, did you see our two dads fighting? Oh, Joe Buck and SDP.
Ohner. God awkward.
What are they fighting about? Scott didn't ask Joe. He only asked him one question, and Joe was like, why am I here? Oh, really? It was one of those, I think they're joking, but I also was like, is this real? Well, Scott Van Pelt had to get back to making sure that Jacob DeGrom was not going to sign with the Mets.
That's true. That's true.
He and Buster only. Okay.
Let's kick it to ourselves in studio. See if Hank gets the lottery ball machine.
Love you guys. Okay.
We're back in studio again for the lottery ball. It's still December 22nd.
We're taping it. Hank, this is your second to last or as Jake would say penultimate chance Henry have you ever gotten this? No you're never going to get it.
You know what's going to be great when Hank doesn't get this it means he's going to have like a week and a half to just think I only have one more chance and to try to think of what that last number was going to be. I'll take that though.
And just having to sit there and wait for the episode to come out so people can just be like hank didn't get it again we should like the game before the bye week or whatever happens you have to sit on that yeah and mentally yeah huge yeah we should actually just retire the lottery ball machine after this year final one of this year he could never get it final one of 2022 here lies beavis he never scored this is never scored. This is Hank's second straight year of never getting it in a calendar year.
Is that correct? That is correct. Okay.
Hank, you've never gotten it? Nope. All right.
What is your number? 17. Okay.
I'll go 28. I'm going to go 69.
Wait. Fuck.
18 and Sebastian is 39. Billy, come on, man.
What were you doing? I'm thinking of animal facts. I didn't know we had to do so many animal facts in one day.
Okay. What's your number? Fuck.
89. 89.
20. Hank, why are you stressing? You're not going to get it It's not going to happen Pal Buddy Never 96 Is it 96 or 69 It's 96 Wow I was literally thinking of doing that.
That's crazy. Surprise, surprise.

Hank didn't get it.

Hank didn't get it.

One more chance, Hank.

You got one more shot.

Be thinking real hard.

He doesn't even have a shot.

Well, he's got one more chance to try.

You're just bad at this.

Man.

Have you realized how bad you are?

How many times have we done this, Jake?

I got to count, but over 200.

Yeah, and you can't get it.

Here's a tip, Hank.

Why don't you just pick the number that comes out?

Like, if I were you, I would have picked 96 right there.

You should come up with your final four numbers that you want to pick

and then do a Twitter poll, have people vote on it.

Let the people pick your last number.

That's a good idea.

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter. All four of those.
But once you say it, it'll be poison. Yeah, that's true.
Okay, see everyone next year. Love you guys.
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Thank you. Thank you.