Live From The AZ Bowl, Taylor Lewan & Will Compton + Week 17 Picks And Preview

2h 17m

We’re live from the Barstool Arizona Bowl getting ready for Ohio/Wyoming 4:30 Eastern on Barstool.TV. We talk Week 17 picks and preview, Derek Carr, JJ Watt retiring and more (00:00-00:55:20). Fantasy Fuccbois (00:55:20-00:59:42). Will Compton and Taylor Lewan join the show to talk ball, Michigan in the CFP, bad tape and tons more (00:59:42-01:57:52). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (01:57:52-02:13:49)


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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have the boys, Will Compton, Taylor Luan, live from the Barstool Arizona Bowl. If you're watching on YouTube, you see it in the background.

Speaker 1 We are in the stadium right now. The game is getting ready to be kicked off.
If you're listening to it on Friday, make sure you tune in: barstool.tv. We have that.

Speaker 1 We have all of our picks for week 17, Fire Fest of the Week. Great episode coming up, getting you ready for the Barstool Arizona Bull.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's go.

Speaker 1 No place behind a lot of washing.

Speaker 1 And then I can't babe all on the sun.

Speaker 1 Oh no, we're gonna rock it down to Electric Avenue.

Speaker 1 And then we'll take it higher.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Friday, December 30th, and it's Barstool Arizona Bull Time, folks.
We are recording this live from Tucson, Arizona. We're in the stadium right now.

Speaker 1 We're getting ready. If you're listening right now, you've got to make sure you watch

Speaker 1 4:30 Eastern, 1:30 Pacific, 2:30

Speaker 1 Mountain Time, 3:30 Central Time.

Speaker 5 What about our friends in Newfoundland?

Speaker 1 Newfoundland, go fucking. You're fucked.
You're fucked.

Speaker 5 You're not allowed to listen.

Speaker 1 Sorry. So, we're here.
We're going to do a little preview of everything, but barstool.tv, it's going to be awesome. Jake, myself, Dave on the call, PFT doing the pregame and halftime.

Speaker 1 Hank, he's just playing golf.

Speaker 5 I'll be at the party of my cheesesteak.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 5 You're going to be eating delicious food all day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So, it's going to be awesome.
Barstool.tv.

Speaker 5 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 5 You're definitely not going to be high while you're eating cheesesteaks all day, right? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Absolutely not. Even though it's legal in Arizona.
Never said that.

Speaker 6 Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Never said that.

Speaker 1 So we're excited. We are here in the stadium.
Please check it out. It's going to be a broadcast like no other.

Speaker 1 I'm doing the anthem, which I'm, someone told me before, they're like, there's big-time feedback on the microphone. I was like, what am I supposed to do with that? Yeah, so

Speaker 5 if you're down on the field, there's nothing you can, because usually they'd say, stand behind the speakers. You're surrounded by speakers.

Speaker 1 And it's also down on the field. It was like, he said it to me like I'm a real anthem singer.
I was like, dude, I'm just going to go and we're just going to see how it goes.

Speaker 5 I'm excited for the flyover. We were driving from the airport.
We had some A-10s, close air support. I flew one of those a few months ago.

Speaker 5 What's that, Hank?

Speaker 1 No bird. We were trying to get up.
So

Speaker 1 I was supposed to jump out of an airplane. It turns out you can't do a tandem jump into a stadium full of people.
I guess that's a good law. I don't know.

Speaker 1 So they're like, do you want to get certified and spend two weeks jumping out of an airplane? I was like, no. Do you want to tape it beforehand? I was like, people would hate that.

Speaker 1 So that's open-ended. I will do it if we can ever figure out a way to do it.
But I was going to then try to get a bird to land on me. No birds.

Speaker 1 So we're just going to have Jerry in a bald eagle costume flapping his wings like the St. Joe's mascot.
Oh, that's nice. That works, right? That's nice.

Speaker 1 I am fireworks. Fireworks are in the national anthem.

Speaker 5 I am pumped about the flyover, too. I'm told that there will be a flyover.
There was an Air National Guard base at the airport when we flew in today.

Speaker 5 I was spotting the different types of birds they got there.

Speaker 5 Let's just say that no eardrum will be safe in the city of Tucson.

Speaker 1 I like that. So, yeah, we're very excited.
It's a big deal for Barstool. It's a big deal for us.
So please support us and watch it. It's going to be a fun game.
Ohio and Wyoming.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to get some, this is going to be one of those games where it's the true football guys because there's going to be a lot of running, a lot of punting, football guys. I love it.

Speaker 1 You have to earn your football guys.

Speaker 5 It's Wyoming. When you see the logo for Wyoming football, you can't help but get pumped.
Yeah. Just the cowboy, old school, Josh Allen.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I hope Drum Guy is here, the guy who just wears a...

Speaker 1 Oh, Barrel. Barrelman.
Barrel guy barrel.

Speaker 5 So there's actually, it's interesting because there's a turf war over who the real barrelman is. Because there's a Wyoming Barrelman, but there's also a Denver Broncos Barrelman.

Speaker 5 I remember at the Super Bowl when it was, I think, the Broncos against the Panthers. Yep.
Barrelman was at Media Day asking questions. The Big J's got very upset about it.
Classic pit.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Classic pit.

Speaker 1 All right, so we're going to do our weekend preview. We're going to do all of our picks.
The bet is coming very, it's close.

Speaker 1 We've got two weeks left, eight picks left, decide who has to go bowling and eat hot dogs. I'm set up for a disaster.
You're set up for disaster. So

Speaker 1 let me just say this real quick. Good job, Titans, for trying.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, because we're taping this before the game.

Speaker 5 I put a PFTs on this game that I'm sure that it's going to win because it's Titans plus 20, right? They're going to keep within 20. Josh Dobbs.
Sure. There's no tape on Josh Dobbs.

Speaker 1 There is. Well, there's some.

Speaker 5 No, not. No.
There's like, what, he's thrown 20 passes in the NFL. Not a lot of tape on Josh Dobbs in this offense.
And then over 34 and a half.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 5 I'm pretty sure it's going to win.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, they.

Speaker 5 By the time you're listening to this, I am rich.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Titans tried. They tried really hard.
They benched everyone because they have a week 18 game for the AFC South against the Jaguars. Cowboys, good job.
No one got injured.

Speaker 5 Hopefully.

Speaker 1 Hopefully.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, so let's do the games for this week. So, we will be back in the studio on Sunday, by the way.
We'll do a stream.

Speaker 1 The standings. Let's do the standings.
Jake is going to join us in a minute. He's doing his Big J

Speaker 1 duty of prepping for the game.

Speaker 5 Whatever it is. Did you see there's a...

Speaker 1 He's in the truck. He has to do everything.
I feel bad because we just show up and try to be funny.

Speaker 5 There's a big sign-up

Speaker 5 at the press box. It says, Pro Football Writers Association of America rules for the press box.
Please, no cheering, clapping, or otherwise disruptions. This is an active working environment.

Speaker 1 I like it. There also is a Diet Coke machine right outside of where we're calling the game.

Speaker 1 And probably the biggest mistake that's ever been made in live broadcasting history, they gave me a telestrator. Yep.

Speaker 1 You got to dong it up. You buried the lead with that.
That's going to be a problem. Dong it up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've already been practicing the dongs.

Speaker 1 I expect, well, you said dong it up first.

Speaker 5 You said you've been practicing the dongs.

Speaker 1 Right, I did practice, but he said dong it up.

Speaker 5 But you practiced before I expected it to be.

Speaker 1 We're going to do the dong it up. We're going to do, no, no, no.
The practice came after. You said dong it up.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but you said that you've been practicing before I even said

Speaker 1 practicing.

Speaker 5 You did the act of practicing.

Speaker 1 But you don't know what I was practicing.

Speaker 5 I knew that you were practicing the donks.

Speaker 1 Because you're always thinking about them. I am.
Adam on the bonk. We're going to do the bonk list next week.
Hank's going to reveal the whole list.

Speaker 6 PFT was like, I can't believe that. I didn't think you were actually keeping a list.

Speaker 1 Oh, I have a list.

Speaker 5 Hand up one extra before. I want you to hear it from me, Hank.
I may have asked somebody that we work with if they could get me into Miley Cyrus and Dolly Parton's New Year's Eve party.

Speaker 5 She said, yes, she could. And then she wrote me back.
She goes, you know, it's Miami, right?

Speaker 5 And so I was like, just forget I said anything. She's not going to forget I asked her about that.

Speaker 1 No, definitely not. All right.
So the picks and the standings.

Speaker 1 For everyone to remember, it's the second place person and the last place person have to be trapped in a bowling alley until

Speaker 1 they reach a score that releases them.

Speaker 1 They can eat hot dogs. A second-place person eats every hot dog is 10 pins off their final score.

Speaker 5 Or they can drink a beer to take it down. Yeah, and then

Speaker 1 one pin per beer. And then

Speaker 1 the last place person, every hot dog they eat is five pins off. And so they have to essentially, like, if you eat 20 hot dogs, you have to then bowl a 200 to get out of the bowling alley.

Speaker 1 The scores right now. PFT is in the lead, 34.5.
So pushes count as a half. Wins count as one.
Loss is obviously nothing. I'm in second in the danger zone, zone, 33.5.

Speaker 1 Max is 32.

Speaker 1 So it's pretty much a three-man race between the three of us to see who can be second. And then there's a drop-off.
Billy at 29.5. He's pretty safe.
Hank at 26. Jake at 24.

Speaker 1 So Hank and Jake, two apart. Are you nervous?

Speaker 6 That's why I'm set up for a disaster. It's Jake Marsh behind me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 He can beat me and come back and then step over me and be like, oh.

Speaker 1 And apologize. Yeah, be like, I didn't mean to win those games.

Speaker 6 And it'll probably come down to the last game, me versus him, and he'll win.

Speaker 6 And then you'll sportsmanship me to death.

Speaker 6 And then I will be so mad the entire time I'm bowling.

Speaker 5 You pride yourself on being a sharp when it comes to especially the underdogs. Yeah.
And this year, the dogs bit back. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And then Jake's surpassing you, beating you at your own specialty to make you last place in a do-you-know-bowl season-long contest. That's going to be a tough look for you.

Speaker 1 And I shouted you out, Hank, on Sunday's podcast.

Speaker 5 You hit the hungry dog.

Speaker 1 Appreciate it. That was great.
Now, there's a million shots at it. You're going to get one.

Speaker 5 I'd also like to say that

Speaker 1 I'm not rooting for you to lose this. I'm going to start a parlay on Sunday.

Speaker 5 It's Saturday.

Speaker 5 I want Jake to lose this. It would be way funnier, I think, to watch Jake do this challenge than you.

Speaker 1 Yes. Agreed.
He needs Tommy John. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So if there was a way for us to rig it, I would rig it in favor of another dude.

Speaker 1 Here's another wrinkle. And Jake's not here right now.
I would say this to his face, but I can't because he's not here right now.

Speaker 1 Jake losing it makes second place significantly more of a punishment because you have to be stuck with Jake, who's going to complain the entire time.

Speaker 1 Like, if I have to bowl at second place, I'd be happy to do it with Hank. We'd probably just get drunk eat hot dogs.

Speaker 1 If I do it with Jake, he's going to be like, should we call a medic after the first game? Well, he's going to be one of those pitchers' ice arms forever.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be half bowling, half being therapist to Jake that it's going to be okay.

Speaker 5 He's not doing like significant damage to his shoulder so he would also he would be like are you sure that like medically it's safe to eat a hot dog and drink a beer at the same time you're gonna get dehydrated right so I might just kill myself yeah

Speaker 1 no that honestly I would I would consider that's one way out of the bowling out yeah that is true the option we never talked about all right so Let's do the picks. Let's talk about the games.
Week 17.

Speaker 1 We got weird things going on in the league. Derek Carr getting benched and now removing himself from the team.

Speaker 1 Mark Davis, I read an article today that basically was like, Mark Davis just doesn't like Derek Carr. Well,

Speaker 5 I think if you look at what's happening there, he's being sad for the last two weeks, not to treat him as a scapegoat or piss him off or anything. It's because they can't have him get injured.

Speaker 5 If he gets injured, then they owe him a shitload of money and they won't be able to trade him. So they're going to try to trade him this offseason.

Speaker 5 And I think we've predicted for at least the last six weeks it just smells like the Colts.

Speaker 1 It smells like

Speaker 5 it smells like a Colts move. Or Or it could be like

Speaker 5 Josh McDaniels send him back to Belichick, kick it up to the boss.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So the article I read, though, was basically McDaniels and the GM had a two-day meeting about what to do, and they were stuck because the Raiders are technically not eliminated.

Speaker 1 So it's like sending a bad message when all you've been preaching is winning, winning, winning. And Mark Davis is like, I don't have the money.
Like, bench him. Please.

Speaker 1 I cannot pay for him.

Speaker 5 He doesn't want to pay him next year.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly.

Speaker 5 I mean, there's a track record of McDaniels doing this. He did it in Denver with Cutler.
He's pulling a Cutler on car.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Trade him out.
Trade him out of town.

Speaker 1 And then we have, like, yeah, there's some weird games where will they try, won't they try, all across the league.

Speaker 1 Teams that are dead, teams that need to win, like the Giants-Colts game, that, I guess we'll get into everything, but like that game just screams. The Giants need it and the Colts don't.

Speaker 6 Tua also got concussed.

Speaker 1 Tua got concussed, which it proves that Tuanan still rides hard.

Speaker 5 He was injured last week. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm legitimately worried about him.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and the way that McDaniels was talking about it was

Speaker 5 concerning. He was like, Tua just needs to live his life based on what's in front of him right now.
Yeah. On any given day.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's not what you want to hear.

Speaker 5 And yeah, granted, like it is the truth. If somebody gets a concussion, there's more important things than football.

Speaker 5 But as fans, you don't want to have your coach somberly reminding everybody about that. That's not a good sign.

Speaker 1 What if

Speaker 1 Tua retires and Tom Brady goes to the Dolphins?

Speaker 5 In exchange for an ownership stake in the Dolphins. And Sean Payton gets to the bottom.
And Sean Payton.

Speaker 1 And Mike McDaniel becomes the biggest flash in the pan of all time. Yeah.
I think he's a good coach, but it would be like, remember that

Speaker 1 September and October when the Dolphins were incredible and Mike McDaniel took over the league?

Speaker 5 But Mike McDaniel also seems like a chill enough dude where if Tom Brady was like, I'd like to come to town. I'd like you to stick around as my offensive coordinator.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 But Sean Payton's going to be your coach, he'd be like, yeah, yeah, that's whatever.

Speaker 1 Same parking spot?

Speaker 5 Yeah, Siebes.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, cool. We'll do it.
All right. Ready, Hank? Yeah.
Your favorite favorite? Unload.

Speaker 6 My favorite favorite. Let me pull up my list.

Speaker 5 Get that load, Hank.

Speaker 6 My favorite favorite is the Giants minus five and a half.

Speaker 1 Yep. Okay.
Me too. Yeah? Yep.
I'm scared of this game.

Speaker 6 The Colts, just the Colts watching them Monday night, the easiest bet I had all year was the Chargers.

Speaker 6 They're the worst coach team in the league. They're terrible.
They can't score points. They can't do anything.
The Giants are fighting for a playoff spot. They're fighting for seating.

Speaker 1 The Wheels are.

Speaker 6 It's just like

Speaker 6 I've been betting the under in the Browns game since Deshaun came back. Bet against the Colts.

Speaker 5 It's a big time wheels have come off moment.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying not to think about it.

Speaker 1 Overthink it.

Speaker 5 It makes Ursay's victory lap that he did after Saturday got that first win so much more funny in retrospect. He was like, in your face, fuckheads.

Speaker 5 Everybody that said that I couldn't pick a coach to save my life, everyone that thought that I was too busy meddling with a team in business that I had no idea what I was doing sucked my dick.

Speaker 1 And it's like, well, they might have been a little bit right.

Speaker 1 It's maybe the greatest first impression of all time because he basically got like it took until the Monday night debacle and probably the week before for people to realize like, wait, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

Speaker 1 You know, like he got a month grace period where it was like, well, they're playing hard.

Speaker 1 And they won that game.

Speaker 5 And it turns out that the Raiders are just like the the the worst team at holding a lead of all time yeah and man nick foles got old fast oh nick foles he i swear to god when they said before the game he's what 33 right he's 33 years old i you could have told me nick foles was 46 years old i would have believed you and he was doing like

Speaker 1 he was back you know back foot wrong foot throw it up i if you're nick foles why are you even doing this not to bring it all back to the patriots but i was watching that game just being like how did you lose to that guy did we lose to this guy in the super Bowl?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Lightning and bottle. Yeah, Max is shaking his head.
All right, so I have one stat for you, though, about this.

Speaker 1 And this is from my friend Stuckey on the Action Network. The eliminated teams playing teams that need to win over the final two weeks of the season are 63%

Speaker 1 against the spread since 1990.

Speaker 1 So essentially, any team that needs to win and you're playing a dead dog team, it just always, it usually works out that the dead dog team is a little livelier than people realize.

Speaker 6 But I don't think Jeff Saturday, like, I feel like he's

Speaker 1 throw it out there. Listen, I think the Giants will probably be in my CLP.

Speaker 6 I think I'm not going to be an exception to that rule. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, the Giants will probably be in the can't-lose parlay, but I just wanted to throw it out there.

Speaker 1 Just be warned for the people that, like, it's always that you always get caught in that week 17 or 18. We're like, oh, this team needs to win.
This team's not trying. Hammer it.

Speaker 1 And you're like, fuck, what just happened?

Speaker 5 I can't wait to see how bundled up Dable is going to be this weekend. He's going to look like Ralphie from Christmas Story.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be warm. Is it going to be warm? I think it's going to be warm everywhere.

Speaker 1 It's basically the reverse of last week. 53 degrees in New York City.

Speaker 5 It's sunny. Greta Thunberg catching dubs left and right.

Speaker 1 Yep, she was right. She just had to wait it out.
Max, your favorite favorite. So PFT and Hank are both on the Giants.

Speaker 8 Patriots minus three.

Speaker 5 Notua

Speaker 8 going up north, candy ass, dolphins suck.

Speaker 1 I just have to say, so a lot of people listening probably don't know this person's name,

Speaker 1 but he's a fantastic producer at Barstool, Fasoli, who's a die-hard Patriots fan. He just fist-pumped when Max picked him as if, like,

Speaker 1 game over. Yeah.
Game over. Patriots won.

Speaker 5 He was just like bros to foreign bros.

Speaker 1 He knows I know both. He knows I know both.

Speaker 5 Max, can I give you stuff that might concern you on this one? Nope. So Teddy Bridgewater, Spready Bridgewater.

Speaker 5 He is 24-6 against the spread on the road in his career. He does nothing but cover.
Wait, he's not on the road.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is.
Oh, yeah, that's right. It's in New England.
It's in New England, yeah. I forgot they played.

Speaker 5 But that's why I said

Speaker 5 the candy ass uniforms and the cold.

Speaker 5 I agree with that stat, but my stat of Spready Bridgewater being a beast against the spread,

Speaker 5 I might not bet on him this weekend, but I don't think I would ever bet against him.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I have a question. Hank, you weren't on the show on Sunday.
You heard us talk about Mac Jones.

Speaker 5 Do you want the Patriots to make the playoffs? No.

Speaker 6 I was on the road with my friend, and I was like, they showed the playoff picture in the hotel. And I was like, honestly, I know I have to watch these games anyway.

Speaker 6 I would rather just watch the playoffs completely fan-free because I know it's going to get my hopes up and be like, oh,

Speaker 6 I have to worry about and kind of put myself up for them winning, even though if they won the first game, they're getting smoked the second game. They're probably getting smoked the first game.

Speaker 6 I've given up on the season since the Raiders came.

Speaker 6 Call me a fake fan. Call me whatever you want, but it's just not.
It's not our year. Our offense is terrible.

Speaker 1 What did you think about our comments about Mac Jones? That

Speaker 1 he has to be like a chore to root for it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the whole team is a chore to root for. The offense is not fun to watch.

Speaker 6 The only fun game was that Thanksgiving game against the Vikings, but other than that, it's just been like three and out, three and out, three and out. It's not fun.

Speaker 1 It's not fun.

Speaker 6 And again,

Speaker 6 call me a fake fan, but I'm ready for the season.

Speaker 5 You think he's a dirty player?

Speaker 1 I don't think it's a fake fan thing to say I'm not having fun.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but I think people will be like,

Speaker 6 how do you not want to make the playoffs? Blah, blah, blah. But I don't.

Speaker 1 I don't want the Bears to make the playoffs this year. Do you?

Speaker 6 Want the Bears to make the playoffs? No,

Speaker 5 do you think he's a dirty player?

Speaker 6 I think that was a cheap shot going out of Eli Apple's ankles for sure.

Speaker 1 But at that point, it's Eli Apple.

Speaker 6 He's had some dirty plays.

Speaker 1 He's had some suspect tape. Yeah.
Some things that have been piling up.

Speaker 1 All right, my favorite favorite. I'm going with Mike White.
I'm back on the Jets. Mike White.
I really do think that big favorites, Jets.

Speaker 1 They are actually a good team with Mike White. They're such a bad team with Zach Wilson.
I think the defense will get

Speaker 1 juiced up from it.

Speaker 1 The Seahawks have been very, very bad. They're still getting a little bit of love from the beginning of the season.
Mike White, everyone rides for Mike White.

Speaker 1 Zach Wilson, some of the stats that have come out,

Speaker 1 he is actually the worst. I saw one that was

Speaker 1 very rarely does a player as bad as Zach Wilson make it to their 20th start. That's how bad he's been.
Yeah. It was like a list of like Jamarcus Russell, Achilles Smith, Zach Wilson.

Speaker 1 It's been that best. You know, you know.
Yeah, Mike White is like, you have Mike White. He might not be the best, but when you go from Zach Wilson to Mike White, everyone's got to be so pumped.

Speaker 5 Also, I've been watching White Lotus. And so every time you see Mike White at the start of that,

Speaker 5 it bumps the other Mike White stock up a little bit in my book as well. Facts.
The Jets are well rested. They played Thursday night.
They had the mini-buy last weekend.

Speaker 5 And some people are saying this is a Geno Smith revenge game. Ooh.

Speaker 5 I actually think it's a Jets revenge game against Geno Smith.

Speaker 5 Yeah. It's the other way around.

Speaker 1 I'd agree. I'd agree.

Speaker 6 That's got to be Billy's pick, too, right? No.

Speaker 1 Billy went with Eagles minus five and a half.

Speaker 5 If we talk shit to him, you think we can get him to change his pick to the Jets?

Speaker 1 Like, oh, shit, I shouldn't have left the Jets. Eagles minus five and a half.

Speaker 1 Max, this game scares me.

Speaker 8 Not me.

Speaker 1 This is fine.

Speaker 8 This is fine. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Lane Johnson is back.

Speaker 8 That's pretty important. Did you see that he's back?

Speaker 1 He's back

Speaker 1 all the way? No, not back. From the nutshot?

Speaker 8 No, he is confirmed that he will be back for the playoffs.

Speaker 1 What was his injury? Nutshot?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I still think.

Speaker 1 Well, it was like strained oblique, which is a nutshot.

Speaker 6 I think it was just a really bad, like, really bad nutshot.

Speaker 5 When you say confirmed back for the playoffs, where did you see that confirmed?

Speaker 8 Several times. I don't know.
I saw it. Rappaport.
It was actually.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Yeah. He was like,

Speaker 8 he's choosing not to get surgery so that he can 100%.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's not good. That's always great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he's a worrier.

Speaker 5 He's definitely hurt and will try to pretend that he's not hurt.

Speaker 8 But he's a beast.

Speaker 1 It's fine. What about Avante Maddox?

Speaker 8 He doesn't look as good.

Speaker 1 Who else got hurt?

Speaker 8 Jordan Davis, concussion.

Speaker 1 He'll be back by the playoffs. Okay.

Speaker 1 But C.J.

Speaker 8 Gardner-Johnson comes back.

Speaker 1 I heard Hurts is practicing.

Speaker 8 Hurts is practicing.

Speaker 8 Things are trending up.

Speaker 1 Is he practicing?

Speaker 5 Is he throwing in practice, or is he just like on the stage?

Speaker 8 He was throwing today in practice.

Speaker 8 I don't think he was in pads, but he was throwing.

Speaker 1 And all you got to do is win this game, then rest week 18, and then rest. It's Andy Dalton.
What? It's Andy fucking Dalton. It is Andy Dalton.
It is Andy Dalton. But

Speaker 1 on the road, at home. It's just crazy that the Saints.
That didn't make sense.

Speaker 5 The Saints are still alive.

Speaker 1 It's insane to think that the Falcons were the first team in the NFC South to get eliminated after

Speaker 5 It is wild.

Speaker 1 Mid-October.

Speaker 1 All right. Do we have Jakes?

Speaker 1 Do we have Jake's pick? Does anyone have Jake's pick?

Speaker 5 I do not have it.

Speaker 1 We've got to text memes for Jake's picks.

Speaker 5 I'm currently trying to get Billy to change his pick to the Jets by polling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he just texted. Tough look.

Speaker 1 Tough look, Billy.

Speaker 5 Don't believe in your Jets.

Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 1 Giants, Giants, Jets, Eagles, Patriots, and whatever Jake comes up with here. Why don't we go to the underdogs? Why don't we go to the underdogs? Hank,

Speaker 1 he's thinking about it right now. My underdogs?

Speaker 6 No, I know. I was looking for, I was just making a text.

Speaker 6 I was looking for the text. Bears plus six.

Speaker 1 That is also mine. Six and a half right now.

Speaker 6 Six and a half. I mean, this is, I think I've said this probably 10 times to the Lions this year.
I think I did this the first time they played. It's going to be a close game.

Speaker 6 It's going to be a field goal one way or the other.

Speaker 1 The Lions are a good team. But they play every game.
The game favorites is way too much.

Speaker 6 They play every game close, exactly. Right.

Speaker 1 And I do, I'm always nervous about like one week. The Lions looked terrible last week against the run.
The Bears have a really good running game. Will they be able to figure it out, like fix it?

Speaker 1 Because it was so bad against the Panthers. I don't know.
I'm with you on the Bears.

Speaker 6 I could see the Bears winning this game and then maybe, you know, because they probably want to lose, but I could see

Speaker 6 kind of losing close at the end.

Speaker 6 It's the same exact reason from earlier in the season. It's going to be a field goal game one way or the other.
But that's a win either way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Bears should try to lose.

Speaker 1 But cover.

Speaker 6 Right. But cover.
But they could be winning and then, you know, stop trying at the end.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly. That's exactly what they've been doing.

Speaker 5 The concern I would have is like when the Bears gave up in the second half, is that them giving up for the season? I mean, even are they going to come out hot in the first half again and then.

Speaker 1 But they didn't even give up against the Bills. The Bills, like Dawson Knox, wasn't even trying to score at the end of the game.
And then it just...

Speaker 1 The score, I know that they got killed by the Bills, but.

Speaker 6 They're covering with eight minutes left. Yeah, it was like, it was pretty.

Speaker 1 They were fighting. They fight.
They fight hard. All right, PFT, you're underdog.

Speaker 5 So when I said I wasn't going to bet on Teddy Bridgewater, I lied. I am betting on Teddy Bridgewater.
Okay. Dolphin Dogs, baby.

Speaker 1 Plus three.

Speaker 1 That's good.

Speaker 1 I love that three.

Speaker 5 It was two and a half earlier this week. Nice round number.

Speaker 5 I like that. I like the round numbers.

Speaker 1 Plus three. Dolphins are fighting for their playoff lives.

Speaker 5 Brady Bridgewater, baby.

Speaker 1 And we could get Dolphins Jets week 18, meaning the last spot in the playoffs. We should actually, by the way, we never even.
Congratulations to the Chargers.

Speaker 1 We do give shit to the Chargers. Yeah.
They made it to the playoffs. Brandon Staley humped his way to the playoffs.

Speaker 5 He was doing yoga. He was doing yoga.
I've got a bad back. I've got a bad back.
I recognize that. That was cat, cow, cat, cow.

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Speaker 1 Max, your favorite underdog? Broncos plus 12. Oh, okay.
So, yeah, that's another story we got to talk about. Nathaniel Hackett, officially fired.

Speaker 1 Nice guy.

Speaker 1 Worst coach of all time.

Speaker 5 Well, he's very fortunate to be coaching right behind Urban Meyer. True.
Not physically.

Speaker 5 And then right at the same time, concurrently as Jeff Saturday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that's true. But man, did that not go well? I think the only thing I'll say positively about Nathaniel Hackett that maybe getting fired this quickly,

Speaker 1 like in 10 years, will we remember? Yeah.

Speaker 1 he'll be a trivia question. Like, who is this coach who got fired in the same year? For the actually, I nailed that trivia question.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, he's also got a great scapegoat in Russell Wilson because Russell Wilson has been so bad this year that at least they're, they're forever going to be intertwined.

Speaker 5 This is the Nathaniel Hackett and Russell Wilson year.

Speaker 6 And I think more people, if you're a Broncos fan, you're going to be mad at Russell Wilson. The problem still exists.
Nathaniel Hackett is like, it's not his fault.

Speaker 1 And it also is crazy that Nathaniel Hackett, the guy he hired to come and help him with the clock, is now the head coach. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that's a little weird.

Speaker 1 Also, Russell Wilson, is it crazy to say that the Broncos, like, they should at least consider just cutting him?

Speaker 5 Rick Riley would agree with you.

Speaker 1 All right. So I know that there's $100 million and he's still Russell Wilson.
You hope that maybe he can be fixed.

Speaker 1 Like if you don't if you let the if the problem still exists for a couple more years you get deeper and deeper into a hole I don't think they will, but it's going to be a tough sell for any coach to be like, I want to come coach this.

Speaker 1 And after seeing what his season looked like and the regression he's had, and it's not like he's young. It might not be, it might just be the cliff that he fell off.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it could be. I mean, it was since he came back from his five-week finger injury in three weeks in record time.
He has not been the same guy since then. The Waltons, they own Walmart.

Speaker 5 They've got the money. They could just.
That's... Listen, they've rolled back prices further before.
Then, like, how much more do they owe now? Like, 200 million?

Speaker 5 Yeah, Yeah, that they can eat, they can write it off, right?

Speaker 1 I was tweeting about it because I was saying that Sean Payton, like, I don't think Sean Payton's going to go to the Broncos. I just want that clear.

Speaker 1 But it would be crazy to say the Broncos shouldn't at least do the blank check. And people will say, well, they have to trade picks.

Speaker 1 The Broncos, remember, do have a first-round pick from the Bradley Chubb trade.

Speaker 1 And Vic Fandio, I know, is Sean Payton's defensive coordinator that he is ready to go, and that would be awkward. But still,

Speaker 1 money is like,

Speaker 1 you know, money can decide all.

Speaker 1 If they're like, hey, Sean Payton, $20 million a year,

Speaker 5 I've actually heard Sean Payton

Speaker 5 is more likely to go to the Chargers. Right.

Speaker 1 But I've, yeah, well, Brandon Saley saved his job. Maybe.

Speaker 5 I think he probably did. The Chargers, the Chargers fired Marty Schottenheimer when he went like 15-1.
It's true.

Speaker 1 Those are the San Diego Chargers, though.

Speaker 5 That's true. Big difference.

Speaker 1 San Diego Super Chargers.

Speaker 5 Great song. Russell Wilson, tough week for him.
He's getting all the blame.

Speaker 5 He got people bringing up his private parking spots and private offices in the Broncos facility. And

Speaker 5 maybe the most down-bad maneuver of all time has been pulled on him by Subway. Subway took Russell Wilson's name off the Danger Witch.

Speaker 5 If you go on their website, they've got the Jimmy Garoppolo-like Italian stallion. They've got the Patrick Mahomes chicken.
They've got the Steph Curry, whatever his sandwich is.

Speaker 5 And then they just have the Danger Witch on there, which is... That's bad.
Yeah. That's bad.
Very bad. Separating the sandwich artist from the sandwich art.

Speaker 7 But Max likes him.

Speaker 8 What if Nathaniel Hackett's actually just really bad? Great guy.

Speaker 1 Well, no, no, I think we know he was. But what if...
No, I know. Yeah, he was very bad at coaching.

Speaker 5 I keep going back to our interview and how he said that the ownership did not ask him any football strategy-related questions in their interview.

Speaker 1 Really, just an all-time blunder by us to interview, because like, and we had this conversation about a month ago, like the jokes that we would have had yeah um he really charmed us but man was he bad at coaching a football team as a head coach yeah offensive he probably good news for nathaniel hackett he'll probably just go back to the pack well yeah he was he was brought in as bait for

Speaker 5 they pretty much like put him underneath a box that was propped up by a stick on a string and they were like come on aaron come on aaron yeah he was a good aaron You know you want this neat hacket.

Speaker 1 By the way, do you think Devontae Adams might be regretting his decision?

Speaker 9 Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 your best friend just got benched and is going to get cut, and you went to the Raiders? Yeah, just a little bit. Just a little bit.
He did say he wanted to be closer to home, so and that's California.

Speaker 1 So that's he is closer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 just so you know, people remember, the Packers, he confirmed the Packers did offer him more money.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's crazy to think about it's not even a money thing.

Speaker 5 Now, if we flash back in time, like I think it was a year when I was told that I was inventing fan fiction on this podcast, podcast, when I said something about Las Vegas feels like Tom Brady would want to go out there and finish his career there.

Speaker 5 Now they've got McDaniels out there. They're cutting their quarterback or trading their quarterback.
And if you're a divorced man in your 40s,

Speaker 5 what city do you want?

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought you were going to say, what owner do you want to hang out with? Mark Davis.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and Guy Fieri, he's there. No, you want to go to fucking Vegas.
Yeah. Vegas, baby, Vegas.
Just think about it, Hank.

Speaker 6 I mean, which story, which book are you writing? The Dolphins one or the Rangers one?

Speaker 1 We're writing many books. Both.
He'd either go to Miami. There's a Niners chapter here, too.

Speaker 1 It's actually a choose your own adventure book. Yeah.
So you can just skip to page 50 and figure out what happens when he goes out on the town with Mark Davis.

Speaker 1 Imagine Brady and Mark Davis in a UFC fight.

Speaker 7 That would be sick.

Speaker 1 So perfect. Paying the town.

Speaker 5 You could do just like a remake of the hangover with Mark Davis. Brady might be richer than Mark Davis.
Oh, he definitely is.

Speaker 1 And also, Brady would, like, Mark Davis would sign Brady and there would be a clause in his contract, like, you have to hang out with me once a month. Like, we have to go out together once a month.

Speaker 1 Which, honestly, if I were the owner, I'd probably do that for a star quarterback, too. She's like, you have to be my best friend.
I'm paying you all this money. We're best friends now.

Speaker 1 All right, so Broncos and then Billy's pick. Oh, we got Jake's picks, too.
So, Jake also took the Eagles minus five and a half.

Speaker 5 Oh, one more thing about the Russell Wilson situation in Denver.

Speaker 5 He's had like six different people in that front office between the GM and the ownership group just going in front of the media and being like, we believe that Russ is fixable. Yeah.

Speaker 5 How would you feel if you're Russell Wilson and your boss just kept being like, I think he's fixable. I think we can fix this guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 He's probably Russ Wilson, he projects an image of like supreme confidence. He is Mr.
Unlimited after all. But like, that can't be a good situation to be in when you're Russ.

Speaker 1 Maybe they mean like Russ believes in such weird shit. Like they could even do like conversion therapy to have him become a regular person.

Speaker 5 Shock him whenever he

Speaker 1 keeps down.

Speaker 1 He probably, if you framed it correctly to Russell Wilson, and you're like, we're just going to use these clamps on your nipples and your balls and your brain, and we're just going to do a little like jolt of energy into you and hope it works.

Speaker 1 He'd be like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 5 I think if you, yeah, you could actually like hook up electrodes to the side of his neck, and whenever he does something to creep out one of his teammates or acts like a weirdo,

Speaker 1 shock him. So he is fixable in that.

Speaker 1 You just have to frame it correctly. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Two-point conversion therapy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're going to get more unlimited. All right, so Billy and Jake.
So Jake has the Eagles minus five and a half. That's his favorite.
Billy and Jake both

Speaker 1 have the Minnesota Vikings plus three and a half in Lambeau.

Speaker 1 This game scares me.

Speaker 1 I want the Vikings to win. I'm rooting for the Vikings.
I know Vikings fans hate me. I don't care.
I'm rooting for the Vikings to win. They're not going to win.

Speaker 1 The Packers are going to win, and they're probably going to cover because similar to the Lions game a a few weeks ago, the Vikings are 12 and 3 and they're playing against a 7-8 team and they're 3.5-point underdogs.

Speaker 6 Seems pretty hungry to me. That seems like the biggest trap.

Speaker 1 That seems like the biggest trap of all time. They want you to be like, oh, how could the Vikings be three and a half-point underdogs when they're 12-3?

Speaker 1 How, Hank? How?

Speaker 6 They're already in the playoffs. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. They're already in the playoffs.
They're already in the playoffs. They are playing for seeding.
So they have, that's both of their underdogs. Let's go to overs.

Speaker 6 My over, I mean, I feel like you guys talked about it with Baker and McVay

Speaker 6 over

Speaker 6 Rams Chargers. I think it's going to be a points bonanza.
Chargers are good. They're getting healthier.
They're also playing for seeding, so they're going to be trying.

Speaker 6 And I think Baker is pretty good. McVay's got him going.
I think it's going to be a 60-point game.

Speaker 1 I will admit, and this hurts me to say it because...

Speaker 1 I don't want to be duped again by the Chargers, but when Keenan Allen and Mike Williams are on the field, they're a totally different team.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so hand up, I have officially been duped by the Chargers. Yep.

Speaker 1 I'm almost there.

Speaker 5 I'm all the way in. I put a big future on them.
I'll be a very rich man if they win the Super Bowl, which sounds ridiculous to say.

Speaker 5 I bet on the Chargers to win the Super Bowl, which is stupid. But at the same time,

Speaker 5 very dumb. Austin Eckler.

Speaker 1 Pointless.

Speaker 5 But here's why. Shut the fuck up, Hank.

Speaker 1 Here's why.

Speaker 5 Austin Eckler, he's great.

Speaker 5 The rushing stats, I think they're like second to last in the league. Doesn't matter.
They use him catching passes as the running game out of the backfield.

Speaker 5 They have, I think, the third best passing offense in the NFL right now, which is now they're all healthy, so they're really clicking.

Speaker 5 Their schedule is favorable these last two weeks to them.

Speaker 6 It wouldn't be in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 What's that, Hank?

Speaker 1 Keep going. Sorry.

Speaker 5 Oh, that's interesting that you brought that up, Hank. It won't be in the playoffs because guess who they would play if it all shakes out, how I'm envisioning it shaking out the game.

Speaker 1 And AFCHA.

Speaker 5 They would play against the Jacksonville Jaguars in the first round. Okay.

Speaker 1 It's a tough place to play.

Speaker 5 And they did lose the Jaguars early in the season, but that's beside the point. It was a different team.
And they're getting Bosa back.

Speaker 1 Counterpoint, Chargers.

Speaker 5 They're the Chargers.

Speaker 6 Chargers, just think about the Chargers in Kansas City or Buffalo.

Speaker 1 But I think they're. Or Cincinnati.
Or the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 But I forgot that they were the Chargers when I bet on them. But the odds were so juicy.

Speaker 1 Plus 2,800. Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 this team's famous. That's fair value.
That's good value. That's a good bet.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's already come down.

Speaker 1 That's like my Eagles future. It's probably not going to win.
Max closure turnier. Don't listen to that.
It's probably not going to win. I know it's not going to win, but I got great value.

Speaker 1 So good value counts for something.

Speaker 5 It's coming. I am officially buying the Chargers bullshit.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 5 I'm all in on it. And this is the battle for the 405.

Speaker 5 Which team do they share?

Speaker 1 Like, is there a home locker room? No, I think the Chargers are always away.

Speaker 5 So the Chargers are still, they're in their home locker room, which is the away locker room this weekend. Right.
What does the winner get?

Speaker 1 The 101?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure. 405? They get Rosillo's boat.

Speaker 5 Oh, that's sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sick boat. It's a sick boat.
All right.

Speaker 1 So, Vikings, Vikings, Max, did you have yours? Your Broncos?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, the over. We're on overs.

Speaker 1 Sorry, this is a little confusing episode because we're not sitting in the studio. My brain's a little scrambled.
What's your over, PFT? Same one. Same one.
Yep. Same one.

Speaker 5 Same one, Chargers. Go for it.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 5 Chargers are going to put up 41 on their own.

Speaker 1 My over is going to be the Jaguars and the Texans over 43.5.

Speaker 5 So everyone's talking about the Titans resting their players this weekend. No one's talking about the Jaguars maybe resting their players.

Speaker 1 So the reason why is the Jaguars still have like an 8% chance to go to the playoffs even if they lose to the Titans in the wild card.

Speaker 1 And I also, I believe if they tie week 18, the Jaguars would go if they win this game.

Speaker 5 Do we have any scenarios like we got last year with the Chargers and the Raiders, the tie?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, no, the Jaguars would go to the playoffs if they tie, I believe.

Speaker 5 But would the Titans also go to the playoffs? I don't think so. Like, I'm looking for one of those scenarios where a tie gets both teams in.

Speaker 1 Both teams in, yeah. That was a once-in-a-billion shot.
All right, so I'm taking the over in that game. I just think Trevor Lawrence is

Speaker 1 the guy now, and he's been playing well. And the Texans, I don't know, they're a little frisky, score some points.
Yeah. Can't really game plan for Davis Mills and Jeff Driscoll.
Yeah. Tough.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 5 they can beat you any number of ways.

Speaker 1 All right, Max, your favorite over?

Speaker 8 Vikings, Packers, over 48.

Speaker 1 Okay. I don't hate it.
I don't hate it.

Speaker 5 I also need the Vikings to win desperately this weekend. So this weekend, Big Cat and I are calling a truce with all Vikings fans.

Speaker 1 They won't accept it. They're mad to offering it to them.
I get that they're mad at us. They have every right to be mad at us.

Speaker 1 I understand the rivalry, but I will be rooting for the Vikings.

Speaker 5 Yeah, like it or not, I'm going to be the biggest Vikings fan in the world this weekend.

Speaker 1 You know what I should do? I should put the Packers in the can't-lose parlay.

Speaker 1 I should do that. I should do that for Vikings.
that's my bet that i want at least

Speaker 1 if five vikings fans tweet at me uh being like please do it i will do it this is the olive branch not counting hank well i'm the vikings will be in the hungry dog style oh god all right well yeah it's fucked fun um all right uh

Speaker 1 we what's your over jake i had chiefs broncos over 45 i believe okay nice yeah we talked back to plug all the picks in but yeah we talked about anything of note Any opposing picks?

Speaker 1 I did say at one point. Any Sams?

Speaker 1 Couple.

Speaker 1 I said at one point that the punishment for the second-place person is significantly worse if they have to do it with you.

Speaker 1 I thought we were going to do it together regardless.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, but he's saying if you have to do this challenge, you'll be saying that something's broken on your body.

Speaker 1 Like I haven't

Speaker 1 complained. I'd be fine.
With you, I'd want to put a bullet in my head.

Speaker 1 That's what I said.

Speaker 5 You would definitely keep track of how many beers we drank and then add that to an injury. But you would be like,

Speaker 1 you would just be like, I'm injured the whole time. And

Speaker 1 I said I would have to be like a therapist and also have a YouTube book. Second place

Speaker 10 should finish in a day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true. Yeah.
Well, especially if it's with you and I kill myself.

Speaker 1 So I'm done in like an hour.

Speaker 1 That's true, right? Easiest way out. All right.
So that was the only thing of note that you would probably want to hear. You got to tell him before he kills himself.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's true. That's your only option.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just speed round it.

Speaker 1 Will you be taking lessons before?

Speaker 9 I was thinking of hitting up either Pete Weber and or Joey Chestnut. Maybe a little collab.

Speaker 1 Okay. Seems appropriate.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Or Nancy Reagan. Talk to her ghost.

Speaker 1 I don't get it.

Speaker 1 It's fine.

Speaker 9 That's the plan. But I'm fully embracing.

Speaker 1 I think unless a miracle happens, I'm fully mentally ready.

Speaker 9 Like, it's over.

Speaker 1 Hank is convinced that you're going to pass him. So you let that go.
And Billy thinks he's safe, by the way.

Speaker 6 That was a funny text. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Billy said, I'm five and a half behind Billy, and Billy's like, Jake can't mathematically pass me, right? Because he forgot that it was week 18.

Speaker 5 Oh, I just assumed that Billy had not filled out his picks for this week, and he was trying to be like, it doesn't really matter that I didn't do my homework.

Speaker 1 I mean, that has to take over the you don't-know ball.

Speaker 8 Yeah. If you don't even know that there's another week of the season, that's true.

Speaker 1 It changed for for me to go 4-0, Billy to go 0-4.

Speaker 1 That would be a great way to get you guys both of the Eagles. Oh, man.

Speaker 5 I actually think Big Cat would kill himself faster if it was him and Billy.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 probably.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's a good point.
I probably wouldn't show up. It's just like my, I would have one of you deliver my obituary to Billy, being like, sorry, you're bowling by yourself.

Speaker 1 I had a lot of people who didn't know ball in my mentions yesterday where

Speaker 9 you two.

Speaker 1 college football in the third overtime. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. A lot of casuals didn't know that it goes to a two-point contest.

Speaker 5 As somebody that had Arkansas in my S2 and a half, I turned it off. Yeah.
I was like, I can't bear to watch this.

Speaker 1 And then people were trying to do the like reverse, like, well, it could be a pickoff on the two-point conversion and they could win by four. No, no, no.
Bro, you didn't know ball.

Speaker 1 It's never happened. It's okay.

Speaker 5 You didn't know, but just admit it.

Speaker 1 Just admit you didn't know ball.

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Speaker 1 We get a bunch of bowl games.

Speaker 1 It's the perfect letdown for what's been like two straight weeks, or actually, it's been like you know, that stat they always put out on like right before Thanksgiving, where it's like the next 35 days have a football game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we, it,

Speaker 1 it will be nice to just ease into that one. Yeah, it's gonna be great.

Speaker 5 It's probably gonna be the drunkest day in the history of Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the city, yeah, like the city, no one's gonna work on Monday.

Speaker 1 It's a holiday, it's a holiday. I'm not even live stream that game

Speaker 1 from Hoboken. I'm down, you want to? Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 9 I have a little bit of an Arizonable tie-in to this Monday Night Football game.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 9 Two of Wyoming's most notable football alumni are going against each other. Josh Allen, Logan Wilson.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Bills Bengals. Yes.

Speaker 5 I was also going to say, I think Joe Burrow is from Athens, Ohio.

Speaker 9 Joe Burrow's dad used to be a coach for Ohio. Not the head coach, but he went to high school, I believe it's 11 minutes away from Pedon Stadium where Ohio plays.

Speaker 1 That's wild.

Speaker 9 That is wild. It's a lot of Arizona and Monday night football ties.

Speaker 1 How'd you like that wild stat I sent you yesterday? That's there. Tom Brady's stat going around.
Tom Brady's been in the NFL longer now than he's been out of the NFL. Yeah.
Fucking wild. Crazy.
Wild.

Speaker 1 Okay, unders. Let's wrap it up with unders.

Speaker 6 My under, I'm going with a backup quarterback versus the least fun offense in the league. Dolphins, Patriots, under 42.5.

Speaker 9 So do I. That's big friends.

Speaker 1 That's huge. Oh, no.
I should have seen that coming. Yeah, you should have.

Speaker 6 That's a big mistake. That's that.
Did you let him change?

Speaker 1 No, absolutely not. No, no.
I honor the rules.

Speaker 1 Come on, no, I honor the rules.

Speaker 5 Jake doesn't want to change, big cat.

Speaker 1 I don't want to watch. You know what? I don't want to win like that.
No. Or lose like that.
I don't want to. No, that's the rules.
Why are you so scared, Hank? Did you say that? Okay,

Speaker 9 two back with seven left.

Speaker 5 Did you guys catch that sneaky sportsmanship thing Jake just did? Where he goes, no, I don't want to win like that. I mean, lose like that.

Speaker 1 No, I meant like, Hank, you should change. He said last three weeks.

Speaker 6 I would, but rules, Jake's right. Rules.

Speaker 1 You let Jake dictate what you think. No, rules rule.
Okay. If Hank beats me by a game, or if I beat Hank by a game, I'll be like, I would have to do the thing with him.

Speaker 1 I would have to. I can't go to sleep at night saying.
Couldn't. Could not.
All right, PFT, you're under.

Speaker 1 So we all have, the three of us have the under in that game.

Speaker 5 Yeah, my under is Saints Eagles. Ooh.
Saints, Eagles. I think this is going to be just a gross game.
It's a disgusting game.

Speaker 1 It is going to be nice. Like, all the weather is going to be nice.

Speaker 5 The Saints play just boring football, though. That's the thing.
Their defense isn't bad.

Speaker 5 I feel like every Saints game that I've watched for the last month, they've had 17 points, or the winner has had 17 points. Yeah.
They just don't, there's nothing exciting about

Speaker 5 any of those games when the Saints are on the field this year.

Speaker 1 It's a fact. It is a fact.

Speaker 1 Max?

Speaker 8 I have Raiders-Niners under 41.5.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 This game is going to be Jarrett Stidham. Poor Jarrett Stidham.

Speaker 5 First start ever.

Speaker 1 To go against the Niners, who are playing the best defensive football in the NFL right now.

Speaker 5 It's really bad.

Speaker 1 It's really, really bad.

Speaker 5 I do feel awful for him. Yeah.
Because

Speaker 5 when he signed up to come out to Vegas with McDaniels, it's because he's like a pet backup quarterback for Josh McDaniels. Yes.
This was never part of the arrangement that he had.

Speaker 1 Never. All right.
My,

Speaker 1 or sorry, Billy's under is going to be the Panthers in the Bucks, under 40 and a half.

Speaker 5 Big cat, question for you. Do you know who has the fourth best passing offense in the NFL? Is it the Panthers?

Speaker 5 No, it's the Bucs. Oh.

Speaker 1 I was going to be like, holy shit, it's the Panthers?

Speaker 5 Isn't that crazy? Like, Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Well, I actually makes sense just because,

Speaker 1 like, thinking about all their games, they've had a bunch of games where they've just sucked at scoring points, but they do get a lot of yards.

Speaker 5 They get a lot of yards, and their fourth quarters have been pretty good recently. Right.
For the most part, not counting that Bengals game. But they, yeah, I was blown away when I saw it.

Speaker 5 They're fourth in the league.

Speaker 1 And yeah, it does feel like every game goes the same where they move the ball and then they get to,

Speaker 1 by the way, the Cowboys are up 7-0.

Speaker 1 7-0.

Speaker 1 They get to the red zone and then they just can't do anything.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 1 I think I'm back on the Bucs this week.

Speaker 1 Do you want to join forces? Yes.

Speaker 4 Take the Bucs together?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you're going to keep it out of the Hungry Dog? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 6 I was thinking about it, but I can't go against Tom this late in the season.

Speaker 1 I just think that this is the finally of the week.

Speaker 1 They're so bad, but

Speaker 1 maybe. It's the same as last week.

Speaker 6 It's like he's got to get the boys ready for the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I can't do this to myself. It's Tom Time.
I can't do this. It is Tom time.
All right. Games we missed.
Cardinals, Falcons, who cares? J.J. Watt.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 J.J. Watts.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about J.J. Watt's retirement real quick.
He is no doubt a Hall of Famer, and you'll hear us with Taylor and Will, but I would argue his peak, he is top three defensive player all time.

Speaker 5 I agree with that. So here's some stats.
He's been first-team all-pro five times, led the NFL in sacks twice, led the NFL in tackles for loss three times, quarterback hits four times.

Speaker 5 He is, he won three Defensive Player of the Year awards in four years. Yep.
Might not ever be done again.

Speaker 5 That stretch that he had from like 2013 to 2016 was the best I've ever seen any defensive player ever.

Speaker 1 He had that year where he had, I can't remember how many sacks, but like over 100

Speaker 1 tackles and he scored five touchdowns. Remember that? Because he had a couple of his tight end.
No, but he was also a couple like scooping scores and he had that

Speaker 5 sick

Speaker 5 pick six. JJ Swatt is what they called him.

Speaker 1 He was an absolute

Speaker 1 like workhorse insane insane player for that stretch injuries obviously the longevity might not be the same but if you pick just the like, if you get the three best years of a player, he's up there as one of the all-time greats.

Speaker 5 I want to get ahead of this debate because you're going to hear a lot of people say J.J. Watt, for as great of a player as he was,

Speaker 5 even better guy off the field. Disagree.
Disagree. He was a much better player.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 He was like one of the top three all-time.

Speaker 1 Listen.

Speaker 1 He's a good guy. He's not Gandhi.
He's not a Hall of Fame person. No.

Speaker 5 Like, who's if you're thinking top three people of all time? MLK, Gandhi, Dolly Parton, Guy Fieri. Guy Fieri.

Speaker 1 JJ's Dog the Bounty Hunter.

Speaker 5 There's a lot of Jesus.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 There are a lot of great people. A lot of great people.
JJ's a very good person.

Speaker 5 He has three defensive player of the year awards, only one man of the year award. So I'd say he's a better.

Speaker 5 The stats don't lie. He's a better liar than he is a person.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. He is, because that's how good of a player he was.
He's not a knockdown. He's not a knock on him at all.
He's

Speaker 1 a really fucking good player. All right.
So Cardinals, Falcons, who cares?

Speaker 1 We talked about, oh, Browns, Commanders. Any thoughts?

Speaker 6 Yeah. Browns.
Carson Wentz?

Speaker 5 I don't. I physically cringe when I hear that name.
Carson Wentz is going to start for the Commanders in a meaningful, essentially two playoff games that I have to watch Carson Wentz play for my team.

Speaker 5 I think it was very short-sighted of Rivera to take Taylor Heineke out, considering, like, we're talking about...

Speaker 5 Stedham going up against the Niners. Heineke had to play against the Niners' defense last week, okay?

Speaker 5 Why are you judging him based on that? He's had a couple bad fumbles outside of that, but he's trying to make plays. I think the team plays better for Heineke.

Speaker 5 The real stat, though, is the commanders with Tyler Larson at center are 6'1-1. Without him, they're 1-6 this year.
So he got injured a couple weeks ago at MetLife on that field turf, not grass.

Speaker 1 Not good. Yeah,

Speaker 1 not grass.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 So with him out, that's really the meaningful, that's where you see the downturn. And also, if you go by the stat of the 49ers,

Speaker 5 whoever plays the 49ers loses next week, we're going to lose to the Browns. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, it does feel like this could be the Deshaun Watson

Speaker 5 is back game. I was thinking about that.
Who do you think has shot more skeet, Carson Wentz or Deshaun Watson?

Speaker 1 That the ducks on that roof, that's an image that will haunt you.

Speaker 5 Yes, it does.

Speaker 1 It's bad. I'm going to say Carson Wentz.

Speaker 6 Also, Taylor Heineke's big thing was getting new Jordans, and Carson Wentz got some custom duck Nikes, which were maybe the most disgusting shoes I've ever seen.

Speaker 5 I didn't see the Duck Nikes. I saw he got his family put on the tongue of

Speaker 6 Ducks.

Speaker 1 And Ducks.

Speaker 5 He put Ducks and his family on there. Gross.
Duck Dynasty.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I think. Oh, no.
We have two more games we didn't talk about. We had the Browns Commanders.
And then how do we... No one has a pick on this game.

Speaker 1 Steelers, Ravens Sunday night football I kind of love the over in this game. Yeah gross this is

Speaker 5 it's interesting I the the way that Lamar Jackson's injury is being reported on is bizarre to me.

Speaker 5 I saw I think Schefter tweeted out today like Lamar Jackson has missed his 13th straight practice with his PCL injury.

Speaker 5 Do we do that with anybody else? Like any other if somebody has like a sprained ligament in their leg is Schefter tweeting out like day by day?

Speaker 5 Oh man, I can't believe this guy missed another Tuesday practice with his torn meniscus. No, it's like the injury timetable for Lamar was probably like three weeks at the very least.

Speaker 5 So it's like well within that time frame, which goes back to like how I've always thought about the Ravens and how they've treated Lamar and his like, you know, his various bowel issues that he's had for the last couple years.

Speaker 5 There's something weird going on with Lamar and the Ravens and how they communicate like his health to each other.

Speaker 5 I don't know what it means or what it is, but I get the feeling like the Ravens aren't always happy with how Lamar chooses to sit out specific practices.

Speaker 1 And Lamar is probably not always happy with, oh, the fact that they haven't given the franchise quarterback a big cut.

Speaker 5 Exactly. Yeah, there's some disconnect there.

Speaker 1 Like if you're Lamar, I know that you want to play, and I do think Lamar is... He seems like the top of the list of guys that really care a lot.
Like you can just see it on the sideline.

Speaker 1 He wants to win and his teammates rally around him. But fuck, man, if you're even, like, that's a lot of money that's on sale.

Speaker 1 I know he'll still make it, but still, you have to, there's got to be a small part of you.

Speaker 5 Like, fuck these guys. I think the Ravens should just let him walk and let whatever team, maybe you could keep the same house, a local team maybe, pick him up next year.
Just let him walk, Ravens.

Speaker 5 Let the rest of the country have a shot at Lamar.

Speaker 1 What if Justin Fields and Lamar Jackson played on the field together?

Speaker 5 It's just one ball. Who's a wide receiver, yeah?

Speaker 1 No, they're both quarterbacks. No, no, they pitch it back and forth, and then they find the wide receiver.

Speaker 5 No, they go pro style. So it's two running backs, and then who do you have at quarterback?

Speaker 1 Nathan Peterman.

Speaker 6 Okay, yeah, love it.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's do Fantasy Fuck Boys, and then we got to get to Will Compton and Taylor Luan.

Speaker 1 What's up, boys? What's up, fucker?

Speaker 6 It's Machi Makarugalo.

Speaker 1 Hey, Marky Makarugalo. My style is fitness.
Yeah, fitness,

Speaker 5 you bitch. Fitness whole piece in my mouth.

Speaker 1 Fitness time.

Speaker 6 Fitness time for the fucking everyone. New year, new me.

Speaker 1 Hot, buddy.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 Let's go, Hank.

Speaker 5 Hop on that bike. My sit him.

Speaker 6 You're going to be fat. My sit him

Speaker 5 is son. It's winner.

Speaker 6 Time to bunk him down.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Put on some kids.

Speaker 5 Bulking season.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. That's true.
He got a bad thing. Bulking and fitness season.

Speaker 1 Before you shred.

Speaker 6 In my sleeper.

Speaker 6 Billy motherfucking strings.

Speaker 6 I've been wearing this Billy Strings jacket. It's my buddies.
I don't even really know who he is, but everyone's been giving me compliments. Billy Strings, Bluegrass.

Speaker 1 Check him out.

Speaker 5 It's a good jacket.

Speaker 1 Real good jacket. You look great in that jacket.

Speaker 6 Billy MF Strings.

Speaker 2 Billy hides your tits.

Speaker 1 What? Thank you.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 I thought you were looking like my tits.

Speaker 1 I don't have any.

Speaker 5 Hey, what's up?

Speaker 5 What's up, cocksuckers? What's up? It's

Speaker 5 Sully Stiletto. Yeah.
How's it going?

Speaker 5 What's up, my starting?

Speaker 1 I'm starting Terrell Owens.

Speaker 5 Terry Owens. Gonna sign with the Cowboys this weekend.
You saw a lot of reports out there. He's in his best shape of his life.
He's 46 years old. Maybe even older than that.

Speaker 1 I'm not even sure anymore.

Speaker 5 49 years old.

Speaker 5 Great. He looks like he could still go out there and run a 4540 and put up 1,600 yards in a year.
Cowboys should be signing him any second now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I'm sitting New Year's Eve. Fuck New Year's Eve.
It's a holiday for casuals. When you're professional, you don't even care about it.
New Year's Eve, worst bar night of the year.

Speaker 5 You go out, you have to stand in line.

Speaker 5 Ask the grass. You got belt buckle to butthole.

Speaker 1 The whole bar's crowded.

Speaker 5 You can't get a drink to save your life. I hate New Year's Eve.
And my sleeper is soup dumplings.

Speaker 1 You guys ever had these things? No.

Speaker 5 Soup dumplings? You get the dumpling and then you got the soup inside of the dumpling. And so you take a bite of the dumpling and then boom, bonus soup.
Look at Gusha.

Speaker 1 There you go. Hell yeah.
What's up, you fuckers? It's Tony Bologna back here.

Speaker 1 My stardom is bowl season. I've been watching every bowl game.
I fucking love the bowls. Barstool, Arizona Bull.
Shout out Kansas for covering the other day.

Speaker 1 I'll watch Bulls till my fucking eyes bleed.

Speaker 5 Never eat impostable.

Speaker 1 And shout out Arizona because we're looking at it right now. 1949, they were the salad bowl winners.

Speaker 1 That was a real fucking bowl game.

Speaker 1 My sit-em. My sit-em is Russell Wilson.

Speaker 5 This guy's a fucking freak of deke.

Speaker 1 Gotta get him out of town, sit his ass, get him out of here,

Speaker 1 Throw him to the trash. Find a new quarterback.
The Broncos got to be better off with him. And my sleeper is ice cream.

Speaker 5 I just been eating a lot of ice cream. Ice cream's good.

Speaker 1 Well, you got to bulk up before you get to the diet.

Speaker 1 Ice cream's good. You got to get it.

Speaker 5 First, you get that protein. A lot of protein.
Milk fat. It's good for you.

Speaker 5 Ice cream. You scream.
We all scream for ice cream.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Fantasy fuck, boys.

Speaker 1 We have Will Compton, Taylor One, on the show. Ready to go.

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Speaker 1 All right, here they are. The boys, Will Compton and Taylor Luan.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests. It is the boys, Will Compton, Taylor Luan.
We are at the Arizona Bowl. We're in a suite.

Speaker 1 So if you hear background noise, if you hear the band playing, if you hear the PA announcer, that's why we want to give everyone a flavor. Barstool.tv, 4.30 Eastern today,

Speaker 1 when this is coming out. Today is coming out tomorrow.

Speaker 1 I know your guys' brains don't really go that quite

Speaker 1 today.

Speaker 1 4.30 Eastern. Again, I know, I know, I'm going to go earspeed.
4.30 Eastern Friday.

Speaker 1 Which is tomorrow. Today.

Speaker 7 Which is coming out today.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Will, so

Speaker 1 our podcast comes

Speaker 1 out. Fridays.
With the end of it. And the production team.

Speaker 4 What do do you mean? Getting it turned around like that.

Speaker 5 How long does it take you guys to put out a podcast?

Speaker 7 We don't need to disclose that.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 1 Will you guys tape a podcast when it comes to it? Tape on Monday and it comes out Tuesday. Yeah, so that would be, we're taping Thursday and it comes out Friday.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but it's like the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 It's 4 o'clock. Okay, yeah.
Our time's a drive the best. What time's the job? It will probably be alive by like 1 a.m.

Speaker 4 See,

Speaker 4 that's very good.

Speaker 4 Sounds like you guys are raising the standards.

Speaker 1 Seems like we say raise our hand.

Speaker 5 One thing you're not taking into account, by the way, is we're on Pacific time right now.

Speaker 1 No, we're not. We're on Mountain West Time.
We're not on West Time.

Speaker 5 See, I'm fucked up too. Shit.
I caught whatever Will's.

Speaker 1 All right, well, so these guys are on.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows them. We actually were going to have them on in the studio

Speaker 1 in December, but I lost my voice. So it's good that we actually get to catch up with you.
First question, easy question.

Speaker 1 Taylor, how much of the Titans' collapse do you feel like personally responsible for?

Speaker 4 I would say 83%.

Speaker 1 83%. Can't stay on the field.
Not 77%.

Speaker 7 Can't stay on the field. Injury prone

Speaker 1 or leadership i would i would say i said it was an easy question 80 89 now now that you brought those to my attention okay real 89 real follow-up because this is actually like a real question how much does it actually like sitting on your couch and watching your team struggle a little that has to kill you it's the worst feeling in the world right yeah like i'm not that's not bullshit like i imagine it would just like eat you up inside it would be one thing if like if a team was doing not great but the o-line was excelling i'd be like well there's nothing in the situation I can do.

Speaker 7 But when you're watching a game on Sundays and you're playing the ego game in your head of like, I could do this, I could do that, then

Speaker 7 you really feel like you're letting the team down in a massive way. It's tough, dude.

Speaker 4 When there are sacks being given up.

Speaker 7 Lots of sacks giving up.

Speaker 5 Is there like a small part of you that

Speaker 5 if your team was doing really, really well, if the offensive line was kicking ass, you'd be like, fuck, that sucks. Like, I'm replaceable.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's human nature.

Speaker 7 There'd be that small piece of me that'd be like, damn, they really don't need me, huh? Yeah. But like, that's in football, especially in the NFL, there's like that thing, like, next man-up mentality.

Speaker 7 You really, they really try to make it seem like they don't need you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, and Will's going through the same thing because he was supposed to be with the Falcons and they just completely fell off a cliff.

Speaker 4 There is no next man-up mentality since they haven't been able to bring me in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 They haven't been able to reload.

Speaker 5 Let's put our cards on the table here. Who is to blame for Will Compton not being in the NFL? Is it Roger Goodell?

Speaker 5 We think it's Roger Goodell, and that he was trying to keep you off so that Tom Brady could make the playoffs.

Speaker 7 I don't. I see.

Speaker 4 It's hard to identify who the enemy actually was outside of saying like the league office.

Speaker 1 Is there a chance that maybe it's yourself and your physical fitness? People were asking. Absolutely not.
Okay, I wasn't.

Speaker 4 We can put that stuff to bed. We can put that stuff to bed.

Speaker 4 We can put that stuff to bed right now. We were in tip-top shape.
We were ready to go play Year 10. Year 10 was alive.

Speaker 4 And what I enjoy most about it, I was telling you guys before the show, you guys got to be actual witnesses

Speaker 1 to the entire year 10.

Speaker 4 We named the group chat Year 10 Negotiations. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think we actually lobbied for you on part of my take. We said, Arthur, we know that you know the boy.
Get him in for a workout. He's lonely.
He's bored.

Speaker 5 He's like a dog that you leave in his house too long. He just starts like gnawing at his paws out of anxiety.
Will's got to get out of the house, has to run around, has to hit something.

Speaker 5 Then about two days later, he texted our group thread and he was like, What'd he say, Will? You want to come down for a tryout? And there was a part of you that thought it was a bit, that

Speaker 4 he was like pulling your leg or something right don't you remember we were talking to him about how they could beat the la rams and we if he just started a fight with aaron donald he'd take their helmet off beat them with it yeah and you're like sounds like a job for full bag willie yeah and he's like well would you do that for the boys and i was like i said yes and he goes what'd he say are you in shape like could you do a workout and i said nothing that caffeine and anti-inflammatories wouldn't get me through yeah and he goes all right i'll hit you up here soon and then a couple days later they're calling to do a workout and i was like i had to text him on the side like is this is this real yes am i getting punked?

Speaker 1 Now, we did this.

Speaker 4 He was like, no, and I was like, let's push the workout a couple weeks. I need it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we saw footage of the workout. You looked good.
You did drop a couple.

Speaker 4 What are you talking about? Passes.

Speaker 4 That's

Speaker 1 all footage. Did that footage never make it out?

Speaker 4 You can bring up the footage right now. I would love to see multiple passes.

Speaker 2 He dropped one.

Speaker 1 One. I dropped one.
No, we just, the viewer could assume that that wasn't the only one.

Speaker 1 I dropped one pass.

Speaker 5 Well, that was the highlight of the video.

Speaker 4 You guys watched the footage, too.

Speaker 1 I wasn't wearing gloves.

Speaker 7 That's true. That's true.

Speaker 1 And that matters.

Speaker 4 Boys are throwing heaters out there, and I haven't caught a ball in like a year.

Speaker 5 I've thought about that. You know how receivers are making one-handed catches? Like, four guys a week are making spectacular one-handed catches.
Why isn't the defense just wear those gloves?

Speaker 1 That's a great question.

Speaker 7 They do, don't they? The DBs do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the DBs wear gloves. Do they? Who is throwing the heaters? They have the same gloves.

Speaker 7 It was not like a wide receiver glove and then a DB glove. There's just one glove.

Speaker 5 Oh, I guess they really just suck at catching.

Speaker 1 Who is throwing the heaters?

Speaker 4 Matt Pease, the assistant linebacker.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. I was going to say, because Mariota and

Speaker 1 Ritter. It's Matt Pease.
None of you seen Matt Pease. He's a great guy.

Speaker 7 He does not throw Rockets.

Speaker 1 Not to Mark Wahlberg, you, but like, do you think Dean Pease gets knocked out if you're on the sideline there?

Speaker 4 Did you see that clip? No, I did not. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 You really don't care about it.

Speaker 7 Is there an actual clip of him getting out?

Speaker 1 Yes, he got just absolutely smoked.

Speaker 4 Coach Pease?

Speaker 1 You didn't see that? You didn't go to the hospital. And if you were there, it wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 4 Oh, there's no,

Speaker 4 there's no doubt.

Speaker 7 It was like a returner or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 A returner was catching a ball pretty good.

Speaker 1 And he was getting rid of Dean Pease. And the woman interviewing him just stepped out of the way.
He just got blown. She didn't say anything.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 She should have anything.

Speaker 5 Was there any part of you that as you were pumping out your like four or five times a week Will Compton signature parlays on the NFL games that you were like, hey,

Speaker 5 maybe I should take my foot off the gas a little bit when it comes to sports gambling if I'm trying to get back into the league?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No regrets. Do you think maybe we're too good at gambling?

Speaker 1 That's a thought. Yeah.
Because we were out there there.

Speaker 4 I mean, a lot of it, too, it's like,

Speaker 4 you know, I don't want to get into all the things that I could compare it to because it would be, you know. It's hypocritical.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yes.
There's a lot of ways it's hypocritical.

Speaker 4 Yes. And there's a part of me too, because when I did the workout and I sat, Arthur had me come up to his office and we sat and talked about the game plan of it all.
He was like,

Speaker 4 when do you want me to sign? Like, when would you want to sign? Would it be a couple weeks to get in more shape? Because clearly, like, I was, I was, the boy was, I was gassed out there a little bit.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I was like, honestly, the ideal time for me to sign if I had a perfect world. And he goes, perfect scenario.

Speaker 4 What would you like to have happen? And I said that if you could come get me after we play the business bowl on November 12th, that we could

Speaker 1 take the bet on it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we could fulfill our deliverables with Bojangles, and I'd be able to make right with Bojangles, and then I'd be able to go play.

Speaker 4 He looked up on his computer, saw that there was a Thursday night football game, and he goes, That works for us. Like, that'll be perfect.
We'll come get you after that.

Speaker 4 He didn't that week of, but he did, that was, it was like the following week where it actually happened.

Speaker 1 Do you think it was a mistake by the Falcons to put your locker next to Calvin Ridley?

Speaker 7 I mean,

Speaker 4 no.

Speaker 4 They're trying to right their wrong, right?

Speaker 1 At the end of the day,

Speaker 1 Calvin Ridley's biggest wrong.

Speaker 4 At the end of the day, I was doing nothing. I was doing nothing illegal

Speaker 4 as a non-active NFL film. That's true.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 You got railroaded.

Speaker 1 I think you should just never retire in like year 20. You should be like, I'm back.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, you know, love ball.

Speaker 1 We're not retiring. Yeah, yeah.
We're all eyes are on a year 11.

Speaker 4 And people out there who say year 10 didn't work out, like, it worked out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. At the end of the day, I got called.

Speaker 4 I went out there. We were ready to sign the dotted line.
Yep.

Speaker 4 My man literally goes, all right, 15, 20 minutes, we're going to fax this in because we had to make an amendment for all the stuff I was doing off the field.

Speaker 4 That's also why that four-week span kind of happened: I was like, hey, I'm doing a gambling, so I'm going to have to tie that up. Clearly, I still gambled.

Speaker 4 But again, I didn't know they were going to pick me up for sure.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 But once that happened, it was like, hey, 15, 20 minutes, we'll send this into the league office. We'll get them signed off.
I'm talking, we got revisions from the Falcons, from us, written it all up.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to defend you, too, because people don't know all the intricacies, but I remember you texted me.

Speaker 1 You're like, hey, if I'm going back to the NFL, can you take over my 15-minute gambling podcast? Because I don't want it to die, but I also can't do it because I have to wash my hands of it.

Speaker 1 So you were trying to do everything. to make it work.
It was the other side that didn't do it.

Speaker 4 Yes, you were, and your response was, I'll do whatever you need me to do.

Speaker 1 Anything you need.

Speaker 4 I was separating myself from Barstool. I was deleting all the historical content that I had had on me out there gambling.
I was divesting a stock equity with Penn. I was paying back.

Speaker 4 I was doing absolutely everything to make it happen.

Speaker 1 That actually is the mark of a true gambler. You were just deleting all the tweets with all your losers.

Speaker 4 I had to restart. Yeah, that's ready to rest.

Speaker 1 I had to restart.

Speaker 4 But I was coming off a couple heaters.

Speaker 1 I was coming off a couple heaters. All right, so year 11 is going to happen for sure.

Speaker 5 We were talking before we sat down here. Will's not against playing the XFL.

Speaker 4 No. I'm not against anything.

Speaker 4 You put a helmet in front of me. All options are on the table.

Speaker 1 We can do a combo deal.

Speaker 5 It's like, I'm not going, I'm not signing if Will doesn't sign.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'll play in the XFL if The Rock comes on our podcast.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 okay. There it is.
This podcast. Yeah, this podcast.
Busting with the Boys.

Speaker 5 Like this podcast. Yes.

Speaker 1 P.M. Busting with the Boys.

Speaker 4 But if we're a package deal, we could, you know.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, so if we're a package deal, then The Rock has to come on both our podcasts.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I would say, because we're not trying to, we think rising tide lifts all ships i actually think i heard that from you

Speaker 5 right but you guys do try and keep us you guys do try and keep us down no he said we play rice because it's hard yeah that's right we do try to keep you down okay well i mean your podcast is like busting with the boys it it does it means human trafficking if you think about it it's also like you know when they like remake movies how young boys are we talking about here

Speaker 1 it's also like when they remake movies in like bollywood in india like that's kind of what you guys did with busting you think so so?

Speaker 4 No, I don't.

Speaker 1 I actually love you guys. All right, so I have a question off of year 11.

Speaker 1 Are you going to retire? Oh, I think all things are on the table right now. I want Taylor to be a tight end because think about it.

Speaker 7 Was that not talked about?

Speaker 1 Taylor did say that.

Speaker 1 If he just goes to Raybill, he's like, look, I'll be a tight end.

Speaker 1 You throw me a pass

Speaker 1 maybe once a game, but you know I'll be a great blocking tight end. I get to keep the weight off.
I can be like the best blocking tight end in the league. And they have roles like that.

Speaker 1 Like Stocker, Logan Paulson.

Speaker 1 You got guys who don't swim. Yeah, who catch

Speaker 4 one or two passes a game, and they're just in there to block. Like, hey, if 77's in there, they're running the ball.

Speaker 1 I would wear number 95%. No, you wouldn't wear number seven.
Well, if seven's in there, you'd look a lot faster. I would look a lot.

Speaker 5 You look skinny as hell in number seven. Yeah.
Skinny as hell.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I would look skinny. But I would look skinny already because I would lose a whole bunch of weight.

Speaker 5 So what are you walking around at right now?

Speaker 7 276.

Speaker 5 That's like Todd Yoder. You're like Todd Yoder's size.

Speaker 1 See?

Speaker 1 What were you to start the season? 310. And to lose that weight, was it just like you don't, you just start eating like a normal person?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I really goes off. For me to gain weight, I have to literally eat four times a day, three shakes, and work out a whole bunch.
Soon, I've lifted weights probably five times since I really hurt.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 It looks good with a t-shirt on, but when I take it off, it does get a little rough.

Speaker 1 It does get a little slow. Oh, no.

Speaker 4 You look solid.

Speaker 7 I appreciate that. That does mean a lot.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, what has gone away, though?

Speaker 7 Your ass is gone. I know.
Yeah, it hasn't been away.

Speaker 1 That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 7 But it's also, it's not like my ass has like gone away. Yeah.
My ass hasn't fully gone away. It's just compared to your ass.
You've got an absolute Buick behind you.

Speaker 1 I got a little donk. You have a nice ass.

Speaker 4 But I got some love handles. You don't have those as much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but. The front of the car is not as great.

Speaker 7 No, but the back of the car is outstanding.

Speaker 4 Kind of like those new electric SUVs. Like the headlights are still a little weird.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? The Halits. Oh, that looks like a nice bright blue one.

Speaker 7 But to go back to the tight end thing, I think.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think that'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 That would be so sick.

Speaker 7 To go play one year as a tight end just to see if I can make a team?

Speaker 1 One year? How about fucking five more years? I don't know.

Speaker 4 Taylor, you know you have to.

Speaker 4 Let's talk about that.

Speaker 7 I don't know, but have to.

Speaker 5 How are those hands? Well, yeah, you can't.

Speaker 1 How are you on right now?

Speaker 1 Okay. But here's what I'm going to say:

Speaker 4 you can't go out not having more years than me.

Speaker 7 Oh, technically, I do have more years than you because one of yours is a practice squad year.

Speaker 4 But it got earned.

Speaker 1 It got earned.

Speaker 1 And what year are you on, Taylor?

Speaker 7 We're both at nine.

Speaker 5 Oh, no. Who's made more money?

Speaker 1 Hey, 2021 was a prosperous year. Yeah, 2021 was a year left, Chris.
You never know.

Speaker 4 You guys don't know how I'm moving off the field.

Speaker 1 He does well.

Speaker 1 You don't know, like, you actually are kind of considering everything, though, right now. And like, do you think there would be a moment where you're like, all right, I'm back or this might be done?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, there has to be that moment eventually.

Speaker 1 Right, during the morning. Is it going to happen like in August? Or you just don't know.
No, but I'm going to make that decision.

Speaker 7 I'll make that decision internally. Close friends and family, maybe you guys be in the group chat.

Speaker 7 Probably I'll make that in March or February. But then there's a whole bunch of different things that have to happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah. A lot of mouths you got to feed.

Speaker 7 Not just that, but there's a whole lot of hoops you have to jump through if you are going to retire. There's a whole like a lot of

Speaker 1 hate?

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? Blake Portals taught us that you don't have to do anything. You just have to not go on a team anymore.

Speaker 7 Did he retire?

Speaker 7 He just he retired, but did he retire by choice?

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 His agent got a couple calls in the spring being like, what's up with Blake and he was just like yeah, I'm done but they but he never signed the papers

Speaker 1 until he came on our show. He's like, I forgot to tell you guys I kind of retired.
He's just done.

Speaker 7 Blake, that whole uh the legend when he first when he first got in the league and he was doing that interview with that lady that's like what would you do if you weren't playing football?

Speaker 1 He's like, Yeah, Sophie Julius smoke cigarettes and do construction.

Speaker 1 Like he was a legend for the good he's like, he said to us, he was, because we had him back on to talk about his retirement, he's like, I'm redoing part of my house and like I'll just go over to the guys and be like, can I help out a little bit?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 5 my favorite clip from that interview is when she goes, What's the first thing you do in the morning? You wake up, and he goes, I don't know, take a big piss.

Speaker 1 He's the guy's guy. He's a guy's guy.

Speaker 7 Um, can we talk about this trophy that's sitting in front of us?

Speaker 1 Yes, yeah, the low-man trophy.

Speaker 7 Do you guys feel like you kind of, I don't know, cut some corners a little bit? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 7 I mean, Will, go ahead and give that thing a knock.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 That's solid. That's metal.

Speaker 1 That's gold.

Speaker 7 Even the box is hollow.

Speaker 1 That's gold. That's tough.

Speaker 7 How heavy is that? Three pounds?

Speaker 1 Very heavy.

Speaker 1 You probably couldn't lift it. Yeah, you haven't been working.
You're probably right. Yeah.

Speaker 7 You're probably right. I know there's another trophy that Michigan and Nebraska play for every single year.
Yeah. And that trophy

Speaker 1 35 pounds.

Speaker 1 Some people were saying that you'd made that trophy just so that you can inflate your ego because Michigan just always beats Nebraska.

Speaker 7 That's not always. Because, what was it, 2013?

Speaker 1 Oh, 2013. 2012.
All the way to beat one of the children. You just know each other.

Speaker 4 When I was a senior year.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's pretty fucked up that you made Will do a trophy with you of something that he'll never win.

Speaker 1 What are you fucking telling me about?

Speaker 4 I mean, he'll never win. You don't think Nebraska's ever going to win Michigan again?

Speaker 1 No, no. You've got a coach that spits on him.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 We've got two big 10 teams that will be 4-0 playing each other next year.

Speaker 1 Who's that?

Speaker 7 Michigan, Nebraska.

Speaker 1 Michigan, Nebraska.

Speaker 1 Didn't you say that this year? You guys didn't even beat Northwestern. Northwestern did not win.

Speaker 7 That was not on U.S. soil.
That wasn't on U.S. soil.
It doesn't count.

Speaker 1 It doesn't count. You've got to be worried about.

Speaker 1 You definitely, like deep down in places you don't want to talk about, you'd rather have Luke Fickle than Matt Rule.

Speaker 4 No, not at all.

Speaker 4 Matt Rule, 100%. He knows that.

Speaker 1 100% Matt Rule? I'm 100%

Speaker 1 on Matt Rule.

Speaker 5 He knows that. Does Martinez have another COVID year? Could he transform it?

Speaker 1 Well, they got a different

Speaker 1 drink. I don't think so.

Speaker 4 I think we're going to be in on the top recruit for 2024.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Rayola. Rayola.
Arch Manning. You're in on him.

Speaker 5 Arch Manning.

Speaker 1 You're in on him? You're in on him. So when we go to Nebraska.
No, no, no, not Arch Manning the next year.

Speaker 4 Not this year, next year.

Speaker 1 Teams he was thinking about, and then it will say Nebraska.

Speaker 4 No, I think we're going to land him.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Number one recruit 2024.
Wow. Rayola.

Speaker 4 His last name's Rayola.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Well, yeah, that would make sense.

Speaker 1 Dominic Rayola's son. Yes, well, no, Wisconsin would be in on that, too.
Why? Because he went there.

Speaker 4 Rayola's Nebraska.

Speaker 1 No, the other one.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah. You say the other one.
Donovan.

Speaker 4 His uncle is an offensive line coach in Nebraska. Okay, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying we got the end.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying there's

Speaker 1 a lot of people.

Speaker 4 There was a Ohio State kid, and I have, listen, I have zero connection to the kid. I just, in my gut, I think that's the centerpiece of the school.

Speaker 1 So this is good. This is Nebraska's recruiting strategy is just hope that one of the nephews,

Speaker 1 the nephew is the number one recruit, and maybe he'll come to the school.

Speaker 4 I think ultimately what I'm saying is Nebraska is not going to, like, you guys forget last year, it's been one year ago, we only lost to Michigan by three points, and the game arguably was stolen from us by the refs in the fourth quarter because they didn't call to stop play whenever they stripped Adrian Martinez and took it to the house.

Speaker 4 We were on a drive to go win the game.

Speaker 1 This is loser talk right now. Yeah, you guys

Speaker 7 are naturally positive.

Speaker 1 It's a naturally positive

Speaker 1 friend will, like, saying, you don't remember last year we almost won this game, that's loser talk.

Speaker 4 Can you confidently say Nebraska of 2021 was not the greatest three-win football team?

Speaker 1 They've covered every spread.

Speaker 4 Exactly.

Speaker 1 I love them for that reason.

Speaker 4 You can say we were nine plays away from a perfect 12-0 season.

Speaker 1 That's true. You can easily say that.
Scott Frost would still have a job.

Speaker 4 Like this past year,

Speaker 4 I can't go out and say that. Like I can't say we should have won.
Like, yeah, we were shitty this year. Everybody saw it all unfold.
But last year, we were in the mix.

Speaker 4 And to act like Nebraska has got no shot against Michigan, I think, is fucking Bushley's.

Speaker 5 Well, not for the next, like, probably three or four years.

Speaker 1 Lincoln, Nebraska is a hard place to play.

Speaker 1 How like pumped up are you for this game on Saturday? Like, are you, do you treat it, are you a real fan or is it like you went there?

Speaker 1 Because I always wonder with like who played there, it's always a little different than the fans because you know how the sausage gets made. It's just a little different.
So are you like liver dying?

Speaker 7 Yeah, no,

Speaker 7 I'm full in on Michigan right now.

Speaker 1 What were those eyes you gave me, Will?

Speaker 4 What eyes?

Speaker 1 He went like this.

Speaker 7 Oh, I don't know. Probably.
You guys want to say? No, there were no eyes. Are we still on the same team?

Speaker 1 Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 7 I'm just making sure. Appreciate you, Bob.
No, I'm 100% on Michigan. I think Michigan wins this game.
I think they cover. And then we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 Georgia is going to be tough.

Speaker 7 Georgia is going to be tough. But also, Ohio State matches up well against Georgia.
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 All right, so let me give you a hypothetical.

Speaker 1 You win this game and you play Georgia

Speaker 1 and there's a 50-50 chance you beat Georgia.

Speaker 1 Or you win this game and you play Ohio State and Ohio State has a 70% chance of beating you, but you have a 30% chance of beating them and ending their whole program.

Speaker 7 I don't even really understand the question.

Speaker 1 You've got better odds.

Speaker 1 think, yeah, there's better odds, but I was trying to think. All has to be burned around.

Speaker 7 I felt like everyone's got a shot.

Speaker 4 I was just saying which shots you'd want to have.

Speaker 1 Handoffs. And I was saying

Speaker 1 that.

Speaker 7 As a fan, as a fan of watching, if I'm saying where do we match up better, I would say we match up better against Ohio State because it's proofs in the putting. We've already played them.

Speaker 1 We've already been playing. Okay, here's a better way of putting it.
Like, you know that if you have to play Ohio,

Speaker 1 it's Georgia,

Speaker 1 it's Georgia.

Speaker 7 Second and 10 for Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, so it's second and ten. No, I mean, that was

Speaker 1 TV. No, it was second and

Speaker 5 would you rather play against Georgia or play against Ohio State and have the risk

Speaker 5 in the back of your head? There's a possibility that Ohio State could beat you for a national championship.

Speaker 7 Do QNC. They just got sacked and they're running the same play.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. He's right.
No, he cooked it up.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, it doesn't matter. Ohio State.
If you play Ohio State National Championship game and you lose to Ohio State, that is 10 million times worth

Speaker 1 so much. So would you rather play Georgia or Ohio State? Knowing you might match up better against Ohio State, but there's a chance that Ohio State beats you and it like erases everything.

Speaker 1 I understand. There we go.
We got it. Yeah,

Speaker 7 I understand what the risk is now. You're talking about the risk is higher with Ohio State than it is for Georgia.

Speaker 1 No, no, no,

Speaker 1 no, we're third and manageable. No, no, no, no.
We're third and manageable.

Speaker 1 You can't run the ball with our fucking tongue.

Speaker 7 I'm sorry, gaming with percentages of like Ohio State has a 70% chance to win as opposed to a 50-50 with Georgia.

Speaker 7 If we lose to Georgia, it's like, okay, everyone thought Georgia was already the best team in the country. There's really no lose there.

Speaker 1 If you lose Ohio State, if you lose Ohio State, it's a program ruiner

Speaker 7 for Michigan. Yes.
I disagree with that. That is a big,

Speaker 7 that is a quick way for Ohio State to right their wrongs. I will say this, though.
Ryan Day is 1-2 versus Ohio State.

Speaker 7 The last coach to do that at Ohio State was Jonathan Cooper, who ended up going 1-10-1 against him. The reason why he was fired is because he couldn't beat Michigan.
We're in Ryan Day's head.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of time to not be able to get

Speaker 1 fired. I think he can play Ohio State.
He's got a lot of chances.

Speaker 7 I think it goes the same way.

Speaker 1 You got 11 tries.

Speaker 1 11 tries.

Speaker 1 Like I said, maybe this year is different.

Speaker 7 Now, Georgia is much more beatable. Georgia is not as good as they were last year.
Michigan is better than they were last year. But I think there's still a gap from a talent standpoint.

Speaker 5 Are you a little bit worried about what Harbaugh is going to do? Like, if you guys do make it to the championship game,

Speaker 5 the level of intensity that that man's going to go to in his own head, he might give himself a stroke before the games have been played.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 7 I am worried about his health. That is something that...
comes into my mind if he goes to the national championship.

Speaker 5 He is going to be so locked in. You'll never see a man more focused.

Speaker 7 He is, and the fact that he used best that many times. The best.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got four words going in his head right now. He's powerful.
Best. Best.

Speaker 7 Strength. strength Michigan men.

Speaker 1 It's like just on repeat over and over.

Speaker 1 You can't have a conversation without Jim's family.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm sure his family can't even talk to him right now.

Speaker 5 No, if you gave him a call right now, if you called up his office and left a message to him.

Speaker 1 Jim's number?

Speaker 5 Tell him. Tell coach.
I could call him. Tell coach.

Speaker 1 If you left a message

Speaker 5 at his office and you were like, hey, tell Lou would like to talk to coach. Do you think he returns your call?

Speaker 7 No, I don't think he returns. There's no chance he picks.

Speaker 4 Like I'm personally challenging you.

Speaker 1 There's a 0% chance he picks.

Speaker 7 I love Harbaugh so much. I think he is the best coach in college football right now.
I do believe that. When we were in Michigan, before they played Nebraska, the line was what, 29, 28? No, it was 31.

Speaker 7 Yeah. It was 31.
He walked into the weight room. We were in the weight room.
He brushed by us, shook our hand real quick, and walked away. He's just focused.
He's on a mission.

Speaker 7 I would be upset if he did return my call.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I mean, that's probably a good perspective to have on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say it's a good. Yeah.
Oh, he was a little bit more. I need to get a call.
It's also a good spin zone for, yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but if I called him

Speaker 1 to call me back. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 7 And they went up to him and they said, hey, Jim, they want you, Taylor Lawrence wants you to call him back. And he said, who? I would say, good.
He probably would say who.

Speaker 1 But that's also, he knows like four people.

Speaker 7 But you talk about the guy who's let down the Tennessee Titans 86%.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Oh, the bus

Speaker 1 guy.

Speaker 1 How bad do you wish you played for Arbaugh? Because

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 Brady Hoke. So bad.
Did you ever, did I ask you this?

Speaker 1 Were you ever like, hey, hey, coach, like, maybe put the headset on? Like, we're getting our ass kicked. We're getting our ass kicked.
Like, show that you're trying here.

Speaker 1 Because Brady Hoke without the headset was always the funniest sight when Michigan was getting just watching the games.

Speaker 1 What are you doing, dude? Get involved. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I don't know. He had his own little deal.
He had his own little deal. I think when Rich Rodriguez was there, everybody wanted Harball.

Speaker 7 As soon as Brady Hoke got there, everyone was excited for a year, but then they wanted Harball.

Speaker 7 And I just think those guys didn't have a fair shot the whole time.

Speaker 1 But then we got Harball.

Speaker 1 I wish I played for Harball. It is great seeing the prodigal son go home and be able to do it.
Because when it doesn't doesn't go well, it's a disaster for the program.

Speaker 1 What? I wasn't talking about you.

Speaker 1 I'm saying it's Nebraska.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Will. That's what I was doing.
Okay, sorry.

Speaker 1 I intercepted that.

Speaker 1 Hey, that's an interception. That sounds so fucking.
Okay, that's a big swing for Buster with the Boys. That's your tennis still.
If you're keeping track of this game right now, we are handling time.

Speaker 1 We just need that.

Speaker 4 This is going to be perfect timing to drop this in. Hey, that's Nebraska.

Speaker 1 That sounds like Nebraska.

Speaker 1 Wow, Will, you fucking, you're so smart, dude?

Speaker 7 Do you think if Michigan wins the national championship, Harbaugh leaves?

Speaker 1 I do think he'll eventually go back to the NFL just because he's that competitive guy.

Speaker 5 I think he probably would. I think it's, you know, whatever.

Speaker 5 I don't even think it's as much for Harbaugh about getting back to the NFL and winning a Super Bowl as much as it is the fact that his brother beat him in the Super Bowl. Right.

Speaker 5 And he just wants to get back to the NFL to beat his brother at football.

Speaker 1 It's also, I'm a Big Ten guy, so I think if Michigan gets to the national championship plays, Georgia, I will be rooting for Michigan.

Speaker 1 But it'll also be one of those moments that if Michigan ends up winning, I'll be like, this is a mistake that I've made. Because

Speaker 1 Dave Portnoy's infinity stone will be complete, and he will just, like, he's always, it's always been, he's had all his pro teams win, and it's always been like, Michigan's been bad.

Speaker 1 So him having that, like, he is,

Speaker 1 what is it? What's the, who's the guy with the fucking team? Yeah, Thanos. He's Thanos.
Like, it will just be over. He will just be able to talk so much shit

Speaker 1 about everything at all times.

Speaker 7 But his pro teams really aren't.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. He has.

Speaker 5 I mean, he's got the Patriots, which is just, I mean, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 He's got the Bruins.

Speaker 4 They've won. They might not win again, the Patriots.

Speaker 5 The Red Sox have won forever.

Speaker 1 But that's the problem. They have with six.

Speaker 1 The way Hank talks, and I believe him, he's like, yeah, it sucks having to watch them suck right now, but like the best moments of my life are Patriots Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 Like he's like, I close my eyes and, like, relive the best moments of my life.

Speaker 5 If you think about it, growing up as a Patriots fan or just like a New England sports fan in general, you grow up a winner. You think that you're a winner because, like, all of your teams have won.

Speaker 5 You've had the most historic dynasty in the history of football, and you grow up immersed in that. You just grow up being like, Yeah, I am better than ever.

Speaker 7 It's a very privileged sports lifestyle. No, it's great.

Speaker 1 It grows up in Arizona. It's incredible.
With the Coyotes, the Cardinals. Yo, go up with that.
Hank will tell us. He'd be like, Yeah, it's so boring to watch Mac Jones play football.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, we know because that's our team's every year

Speaker 4 hank how old are you 29 29 when was the last time the patriots won

Speaker 1 two

Speaker 1 like three years ago 18 18 18 it was that no was that 2019 right atlanta see this is a problem he doesn't even know like he can't easily all the years 2016 was atlanta

Speaker 7 in atlanta in atlanta all against the rams yeah

Speaker 7 that was

Speaker 1 i had the over in that game you guys

Speaker 7 oh my god well that's a that's a good bet because the Rams. They were scoring so many points.

Speaker 1 I was like, how can this like

Speaker 1 Brady?

Speaker 7 There's no way. Yeah, that's peaking.
That's understandable. Yeah.
There's a, yeah, I think the Patriots might be dead right now.

Speaker 1 All right. Oh, I wanted to ask you about the Raiders.
That's fallen apart since Willie left.

Speaker 1 Do you think it's unfair that Derek Carr is like the scapegoat? Do I think it's what? Unfair that Derek Carr has become the scapegoat. Oh, absolutely.
Like, that's fucked up.

Speaker 4 I saw something, I think it was yesterday I was scrolling. and I saw that Derek Carr's nine-year career,

Speaker 4 the defense overall in those nine years was ranked 32nd.

Speaker 4 And I think it's just like,

Speaker 4 it's one of those things. It's like, how do you not win with that kind of roster to where you get to the point to where you've got to bench him for the final two games?

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? Like, there's two games left. So I do think it's unfair the way it's going down.
Like, yeah, you can argue that he's made some bad decisions with the football.

Speaker 4 Like, I'm thinking just last week when he sailed it on rent for the end of the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a tough throw.

Speaker 1 And that Tomlin clip after, he was like, he actually was saying in the headset before that play, he's like, invite him down the middle. Invite him down the middle.

Speaker 1 So they were just basically letting him throw.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like, look, I'm not saying he's played perfect or he's like one of the best quarterbacks in the league, right?

Speaker 4 But also,

Speaker 4 you know.

Speaker 4 Putting him down in that manner and using him as the shield, like this is the reason that we're failing, I think is where it gets unfair because that is ultimately what you're trying to show.

Speaker 1 I think it's saying like this is

Speaker 4 the calls have been, yeah, the calls have been there, yada, yada, yada. Again, his whole resume, yes, he has, there's, he has like, he has blemishes on the resume, but the dude puts up.

Speaker 4 I mean, he's got an arm on him. He can win.
Like, he can play. We went to the playoffs last year.
Yeah. Won the last five games.

Speaker 4 With all the turmoil that happened and all the drama that happened last year, with Basace taking over, we end up going to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 When you say we,

Speaker 7 that's a fair point for you.

Speaker 4 I was wearing the silver and black.

Speaker 1 Yeah. For the playoffs.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 But when they won those games, that's when.

Speaker 1 That's when.

Speaker 4 You see what happened during that situation was.

Speaker 1 You guys are the best because

Speaker 1 you could basically just tell, like, when people make fun of you on Twitter, you're like, I'm a pro fucking athlete.

Speaker 4 I'm going to find some win.

Speaker 1 But that's what makes me so great.

Speaker 1 I'm giving you guys an earnest compliment. Like, Like, there's not a lot of pro athletes that would let people kind of talk shit back and forth to that level and not be like, you know what?

Speaker 1 It's all just, you know, busting balls. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And really, I wasn't even catching on until you said the playoff thing.

Speaker 1 I'm so delusional.

Speaker 4 I'm like, oh, yeah, I was in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're calling yourself playoffs. I was on the field.

Speaker 1 Where did the playoffs?

Speaker 5 Where did the playoff Willie nickname come from? Because it wasn't from the playoffs, right?

Speaker 1 It wasn't from the actual playoffs.

Speaker 4 I'm not even sure. I want to say, like, it might have happened that night where

Speaker 4 it was the Chargers, or where maybe when I got cut and then re-signed for the second time, it was like playoff Willie, you know, getting into the playoffs. I have no fucking clue.

Speaker 4 Obviously, it's a playoff, playoff Lenny.

Speaker 5 It was a playoff atmosphere.

Speaker 1 For sure. Yeah, because it was a win-win.
It's winning your winning. Because you had like a long playoff.

Speaker 4 It's like an extended playoff.

Speaker 1 Gotcha, yeah.

Speaker 4 But that's kind of how it was, you know, how it came to life. And then I look back on my career and I'm like, I've taken every team that I've been on to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's a good point.
You know what I mean? What about you saying?

Speaker 7 You went to the playoffs with the Redskins?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We did. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That was the, you liked that year.

Speaker 5 That was a great year.

Speaker 4 That was a great year. That was a great year.

Speaker 5 Green Bay Packers in the playoffs, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I literally, I go to my producer, and I, since I got the NFL Plus app, I went back one day and was watching that game.

Speaker 4 I was like, CJP, like, if we would, if Deshaun Jackson would have just reached for the pylon and scored versus selling for a field goal, and then Aaron Rodgers, the next series, they get us on a substitution where they get us on a third down and they end up going down to score.

Speaker 4 We take care of that. We win that game.

Speaker 5 Do you think that Jay Gruden is going to get back in the league? The players liked him, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 players like jay players like jay i i don't i mean he was he was really successful as an oc i could see him getting back in the league but again i think a lot could be determined by john gruden

Speaker 1 his brother yeah what what are we what are we wrong about with kirk cousins as a teammate of his because we get we give him shit what do you think you're right about everything

Speaker 1 i think i'm right about i think it's i think i do i do think it's weird how much you lean into the rg3 side versus the kirk cousins so yeah i i just remember watching that rookie year the rookie year

Speaker 5 when rg3 came into the league, he made me fall in love with football again. The dude was unbelievable.

Speaker 5 I'd never seen a quarterback play like that, and certainly not wearing a Washington Redskins uniform ever. And he was incredible.

Speaker 5 Now, there was a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that you get a little bit older, and you see more the totality of it, and you're like, oh, yeah, I bet he was a real pain in the ass to deal with sometimes as a coaching staff or as a front office.

Speaker 5 But at his ceiling, RG3 was the best quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 1 And at his feet.

Speaker 4 best quarterback in the NFL?

Speaker 1 He was with you up until he was electric. When he was elected.
Yeah, he was electric. He was electric.

Speaker 1 When he was at his best. Because the back half of the year is when they went on the run and made it to the playoffs.

Speaker 5 He was electric. When he was at his best,

Speaker 5 I would take him above any quarterback at that time.

Speaker 5 And people were saying, like,

Speaker 5 Jerry Jones was like, Jerry Jones was like, I can't believe I have to play against that guy for the next 15 years. I felt good about that.

Speaker 5 I felt good about being a Redskins fan for the first time in a long time. And then Kirk Cousins took over.

Speaker 5 And it's just like, I mean, we talked about it on your show, Will, but like he is just good enough to get your hopes sky high and then just bad enough to crumble them into dust.

Speaker 5 And that's year upon year after year of dealing with that. That's when I just became like, I can't stand this guy anymore.

Speaker 7 I can't do it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know. I think

Speaker 4 it all depends, right? Because you can even make the argument I was telling you when we were talking about it. It was that like, it's not like the organization was in favor.

Speaker 4 They were playing half in, half out with him the entire time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's true. You know what I'm saying? It's not like they were giving him a contract like he should have earned and had.

Speaker 5 Oh, I think that Kirk Cousins is the best money earner in the history of the NFL. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 So, when you look at what Kirk's done, he played on the franchise tag two years in a row, right?

Speaker 5 And then he got fully guaranteed money from the Vikings, and then he's getting more fully guaranteed money. He's going to make $300 million

Speaker 5 playing football by the time he retires, which

Speaker 5 I good for him.

Speaker 5 I'm happy that he's made all that money. He played it correctly, especially like when your own front office is unwilling to

Speaker 5 come to you with a long-term contract and say, we're going to make you do it year upon year on one-year deals. Like, yeah, I don't blame him at all for playing it the way that he's done it.

Speaker 5 And I think that's actually good for other players that are coming up behind him. So the money aspect is off the table.

Speaker 5 I'm just saying, from a fan perspective, it's very frustrating when you have a guy that's just good enough to get your hopes up and then also at the same time so cautious that he'll he'll never take that next step to being like the best of the best.

Speaker 1 I mean, outside of a few guys in the league, I think that it's like that for everybody.

Speaker 1 It's probably unfair sometimes, Kirk Cousins, because he's good enough to then be put in that category of like, all right, these are the top half of the league or top 10 quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's in the playoffs like every year. Right, right.
It's just he doesn't,

Speaker 1 the issue I always have with him is like to take that next step, and it's a very small group of players, quarterbacks that can win you a game, not have the, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I know that's a team sport, but like a Rodgers, a Mahomes, an Allen's, Josh Allen's got, he's our best friend, but he's got to prove it still, a Brady, like all these guys, like they will win you a game, they will do something special when things aren't going great to win you the game.

Speaker 1 And that's the next step of quarterbacks. I don't know if he's not there in my mind.

Speaker 5 He also, when he was having...

Speaker 4 So does he got to win a Super Bowl to prove that wrong, I guess?

Speaker 1 Yeah, man, if he wins a Super Bowl, it's just

Speaker 1 we get tramp stamps.

Speaker 1 Did he win the game this year?

Speaker 7 It was against the Bills? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, he's been really good.

Speaker 4 he's been really good he can't win the big game or a playoff game and then he ended up finally he's been really really good this year until he wins a super bowl i don't think he's gonna get what everybody if he gets

Speaker 5 what you allude to we said that if he gets them to a super bowl we'll get a tattoo if he wins a super bowl we're getting his face tattooed he's been really really good this year you can't take anything with

Speaker 4 i don't have i'm gonna get a plaid hat he can be in the mvp uh debate what he could be in the mvp debate yeah who i do think i like

Speaker 4 i do think justin jefferson should be actually the looked at as the MVP of the team. I agree.

Speaker 1 I made that argument on Monday because it's like he, if you took him off the team, I know Mahomes, the Chiefs, like Mahomes, unfortunately, gets the fatigue effect where it's like he's so good and out of this world good that we are like numb to it.

Speaker 1 So Mahomes could win the MVP every year, no matter what, right? Like that's just how good he is.

Speaker 1 But if you're talking about everyone else, like Justin Jefferson, if you took him off the team, I think Vikings have like four or five less wins. Yeah.
Like,

Speaker 1 I agree with you. But he's that important and that dominant as a receiver.
Yeah. Sam Bradford, by the way, easiest sack quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 7 Yeah, also the best finessed moneymaker in the NFL.

Speaker 5 And the sleeves. Long sleeves.

Speaker 1 Everyone teed off sacks on him. Yeah.
Very long sleeves. I even got a sack on.

Speaker 7 That was who you got?

Speaker 1 Did you get it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, hey, once I was about to say it, I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 I was really good at it. You're incredibly good at that.
Once I was about to say it, I was like, oh, here we go.

Speaker 4 I even had a sack and I'm like looking at Big Ed a corner of my eye.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Hold on.

Speaker 1 Highest paid sack ever. This guy.

Speaker 7 Highest bait sack ever.

Speaker 4 Highest bait sack ever.

Speaker 1 Ever. Seven and a half mil.
Yeah. Incredible.
JJ Watt would never.

Speaker 4 Way north of

Speaker 1 New York. J.J.
could never. Could never.

Speaker 7 JJ Watt. Who's better? JJ Watt or TJ Watt?

Speaker 5 JJ, right now, TJ will be. JJ.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 Honestly, I think JJ Watt is in the conversation for best defensive player of all time.

Speaker 1 I think he's top three.

Speaker 5 His pick is Lawrence Taylor, because he won three different defensive players of the year in a four-year span, which is

Speaker 1 ridiculous.

Speaker 1 He is like, obviously, the longevity and the injuries, but like if you have like Terrell Davis, who his longevity, those three years, he was incredible. JJ Watts' peak was insane.

Speaker 1 Did you have to go up against him? All the time.

Speaker 1 No, in his peak? In his peak? Yeah.

Speaker 7 I played 14, 15, 60.

Speaker 1 How scary was it when he was in his peak?

Speaker 7 J.J. Watts.

Speaker 4 Hey, check out one of his most recent Instagram posts.

Speaker 1 That'll tell you how it went. Oh, no.
J.J.

Speaker 1 Or Taylor's. Or Taylor's.
Oh, no.

Speaker 5 Wait, did you post an Instagram of another man beating you in football?

Speaker 1 Yeah, go ahead and look at that. Okay, wait.

Speaker 1 I have a real question about J.J. Watt because he couldn't beat it.
The craziest part about J.J.

Speaker 1 Watt and his peak is that, like, when you watch a football game, a defensive end, or, you know, he moved around some, but like, those guys have like six or seven plays they have to come off the field.

Speaker 1 Five or six, maybe, right? Yeah. He would just be the same guy from start to finish.
Would you, when you were playing against him, like, why is this guy not getting tired?

Speaker 7 I think,

Speaker 7 so

Speaker 7 I played J.J. Watt for from 14 to when did he go to the Cardinals? Two years ago to 20.
So I played him twice a year for seven years.

Speaker 7 What's that? It's a question for Frank. Yeah.
I played him twice a year for seven years. What JJ does so well is he'll go left tackle, left guard, center, right guard, right tackle.

Speaker 1 Right. What do you love? No, Frank's taking left power now.
He's repowering.

Speaker 1 Frank is such a unique human being. He's downloading bars.

Speaker 7 You shouldn't have done that. So, like, what he does is he literally, in the first two series of the game, he goes down the line and finds out who's having an off day.
That's crazy.

Speaker 7 And he literally will go and expose him because he can rush the passer from any

Speaker 7 position, which is incredible. Right.
So my rookie year, obviously, when I was playing him, the first person he lines up on is me. Now,

Speaker 7 I don't know if it was God or fate or what, but those 25 snaps I played. Might have been the best 25 snaps of my life.
Right. Like, I, for whatever reason, played well

Speaker 7 since then.

Speaker 1 Talent, baby.

Speaker 7 Let's go. Yeah, yeah.
But since then, I've probably seen JJ in those next six years, I don't know, 30 more snaps. Right.
He would kind of just leave me alone from then on, which was cool.

Speaker 1 So this picture that's going to be a good one. Except for the Cardinals game when he was on the Cardinals.

Speaker 5 So this one, is that from your rookie year?

Speaker 7 That's the game I tore my ACL in 2020. Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Did he tear your ACL?

Speaker 7 No, no, I tore my own.

Speaker 1 Was he on the? No, it makes me believe my own. I think I took him my CLL.
Was he on the field for the Cardinals game last year?

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 7 Yes, yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 He left you alone.

Speaker 7 I think after the first series, they realized, hey, Chandler Jones is going to have the left tackle, and then we'll just have JJ play wherever hells he he wants. That's kind of how that game went.

Speaker 5 When did you finally feel like mentally you were over that game?

Speaker 7 I think we're still doing a lot of processing.

Speaker 1 Dude,

Speaker 1 that's the type of stuff that you guys need more credit for. Because that game, I would just walk off the field like I'm done forever.

Speaker 7 Dude, I remember after that game, I went up in the suite to see my wife, and everybody left, and it was just her sitting there.

Speaker 7 And I kind of just sat down next to her and I go, I don't think I've ever gotten my ass beat like that ever. in my entire life.
And statistically, it wasn't even my worst game I've ever played.

Speaker 7 But man, did I get thrown around like a rag dog?

Speaker 7 And the thing that's so wild to me is before that game, I was like, I'm about to go crazy on Chandler Jones.

Speaker 1 Like, I literally, I remember this game.

Speaker 7 So I was wearing in that game the same cleats I wore when I tore my ACL. It was like this big thing.
I was like, hey, you're wearing the same cleats. You're going to go out.

Speaker 7 You're going to do X, Y, and Z. And buddy,

Speaker 7 the first play of the game. We were like, hey, we're running behind you, Taylor.
We call it the play. I can't say what it is because Ray Bull will get mad, but it's an outside zone, open side.

Speaker 7 And I got Chandler Jones. I take a hard step.
I'm charging at him as fast as I can He just o lays me TFL the next series play action pass sack the series

Speaker 7 the next third down sack and I was just like what the fuck is going on and it's the first quarter like if you're in if you're playing a game as an offensive line and you get to that second half you're like all right no sacks Let's just keep that.

Speaker 7 Let's ride that out. You could have some bad run plays.
You could have some close calls of the quarterback. But if you give up a sack, it's like, all right, no more.
You can't have more than one.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right.

Speaker 7 It's ridiculous. And then we hit this two-minute drill right before half.
And Chandler Jones goes into a three-technique. And I go, thank God I don't have him.
I look at it.

Speaker 5 It's Buddha Baker.

Speaker 7 I'm like, I'm about to toss this thing.

Speaker 7 He gets off the edge because I watched film on him and he's fast as fuck. So I started going back.
And, buddy, that was probably the most embarrassing clip.

Speaker 1 The one with Buda Baker. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And people were just tweeting it nonstop. Oh, dude.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 And when that happens, it's like, how do you outlive it?

Speaker 7 How can I ever come back from that? But then, like, you get farther and farther away from it. And it's like, it's funny to laugh at now.

Speaker 1 It's football. Good news.
Yeah, it's football.

Speaker 5 The highlight that Chandler Jones had against Mac Jones is probably now the first thing that people think about when it comes to him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And Buda Baker got caught by DK McCalve.
Yeah. Yeah.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 everyone's got. Everyone's beating somebody else.

Speaker 5 Everyone gets got at some point.

Speaker 1 And Will got Sam Bradford.

Speaker 7 The worst game I ever played, though, was against Whitney Merciless. Yeah.
Yeah. Whitney Merciless.
tore me up one game in Houston. I had like a bunch of stingers.
They gave me an epidural in my neck.

Speaker 7 And before the game, it shuts down your nerves when you you do that so i was trying to lift like a 25 pound plate over my head and i couldn't like you're have you ever had that what when they do an epidural in your neck or anything like that uh like lidocaine all right so

Speaker 7 that shuts down your nerves so i literally couldn't lift a weight over my head what injury did you have i was getting a bunch of stingers in my neck Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 And so I couldn't lift it over my head and they're like, hey, you're fine. Go out and play.
And buddy, he put a clinic on me.

Speaker 7 It was my second year. He put a clinic on me also.

Speaker 5 I'm trying to think what the podcasting equivalent of your game, your five-sack game, would be. I feel feel like you can't.
Six racial slurs.

Speaker 7 Yeah, probably racial slurs. If someone dropped a hard end right now, I feel like that would probably be.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, that'd probably be pretty bad.

Speaker 5 That's Riley Cooper, if he ever gets a podcast.

Speaker 1 That was a tough week.

Speaker 7 Buddy, it was a tough month.

Speaker 1 Did you text me?

Speaker 7 Because the next week we played Seattle and I hyperextended my knee.

Speaker 4 You gave it a major. I had some in the chamber, like in the library for meme videos and stuff, but I was like, oh, no, this is.

Speaker 1 He just got too bad.

Speaker 7 Will came over to the house that night and we just sat on my couch in my man cave and I literally, Will and I did not speak. I was just on my iPad watching the film over and over.

Speaker 4 There's not a whole lot you can do.

Speaker 1 You can't do nothing.

Speaker 5 That's a good friend though, just being with him.

Speaker 1 I need you.

Speaker 1 That's a really good friend because

Speaker 1 in that spot I probably would have come over and been like, dude, you got fucking worked. Yeah.
And then he used it that way and made it way worse.

Speaker 7 I think Will gave me a grace till the end of the season. Once the season ended, he did Buddha Baker comments started coming out.
Chandler Jones comments started coming out.

Speaker 4 I just needed to hear Taylor chirp me a time or two towards.

Speaker 1 He'd be like, we're back.

Speaker 5 He probably kept his mouth shut a little bit because he knew that you had that chip on him. Maybe.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it probably made you guys closer.

Speaker 7 I wish I could pull up clips of Will, but there's not that many.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Sam Bradford. You have to go back in the archive.

Speaker 1 Well, I got a game. You have to go back in the archive.
We can talk awful. What game?

Speaker 1 Big Ten Championship game. No, please don't.

Speaker 1 Where Wisconsin ran for 500 yards. Wisconsin went.
There was like a highlight video.

Speaker 1 That comes up. Didn't like three guys go over 100 100 yards? Melvin Gordon had like two footballs.
I know.

Speaker 1 Well, the only thing anybody remembers in that game is two things you do to me with Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 4 But I don't think I'm doing anything to you with Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 No, you're talking about him. And he triggered me.
How many times do you think that happened in that game?

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's truly like it's.

Speaker 4 I've figured out a way, I guess, to deal with it, but also not really. Like, that truly lives in my head.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who would say that? I see it and I'm like, fuck, man.

Speaker 4 I hope not many people see this clip.

Speaker 1 Who would you say in the NFL? And then they do, and I'm like, damn.

Speaker 4 Because there's one where

Speaker 4 I'm out like in space and I just can't fucking catch the motherfucker, dude.

Speaker 1 It was Melvin Gordon, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was just running. Either any of those runnings.
I think it was like 500 yards. And also, Melvin Gordon had the, he had like

Speaker 1 350 or something. Remember that game? Were you on the game?

Speaker 4 The next year.

Speaker 1 No, I was gone. That was great.

Speaker 4 And I was actually thankful that that happened because then it kind of puts what happened the year before.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, Melvin Gordon's just that good. Who would you say? I'm like, can't you guys see that Melvin Gordon had 350 yards? Like, damn, they gave up a lot of yards.
That linebacker sucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, they gave up a lot of yards.

Speaker 5 In today's NFL, Will, who would you say reminds you of you?

Speaker 2 It was Luke Keith.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say it wasn't Luke. Matt Milano, maybe? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Matt Milano's a good one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Matt Milano's a real good one.
Oh, Rodrigo?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I like him because of hard knocks. I like Rodrigo because of hard knocks.

Speaker 4 Who else is out there that's

Speaker 4 repping the culture?

Speaker 4 I mean, look, it is what it is. Like, it's a dying breed out there.

Speaker 4 You got to respect the ones who are out there still doing it.

Speaker 1 You're like the white rhinos. Yeah.
Literally.

Speaker 5 There's a defensive back for Wyoming. He's playing later on today in the Barstool Bowl.
His name is Buck Coors.

Speaker 1 That is fucking awesome. Yeah, we also have Parker Titsworth.

Speaker 1 That's his real name, the Center for Ohio. Two great names.
Great names. Great names.
Yeah, great names.

Speaker 4 Dude,

Speaker 4 you almost took pride when the boys were about, hey, Comp, you're the only white guy on defense.

Speaker 5 And your name's Compton.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that always helped me out. Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 4 That always helped me out a little bit.

Speaker 1 Just a little bit of respect. He's like, is he black?

Speaker 4 No, he's white. No shit.

Speaker 1 It was like, Comp, how you feel being the only white guy out here?

Speaker 4 I'm like, I'm just a white guy surviving a black man's game. Boy, he's like, I'm trying my damnedest out here.

Speaker 5 We talked a little bit on. Is that something that needs to be cut?

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. You can say black.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 I know, but I felt like when I said it, the response, it wasn't like the locker room. When I said it in the locker room, everybody laughed.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, it felt like a line you've said a lot, and then you say it somewhere else. And it's like, wait, what? We're all just white guys sitting around here like, I think that was okay.

Speaker 1 He said his teammates said that, right?

Speaker 1 No, I swear the black guys laughed at that. That's pretty much what you went for.

Speaker 1 Swear to God.

Speaker 5 I'll back Will up on this because, like, he, he actually was voted a captain, which is crazy to think, like, undrafted to being a team captain on the Redskins. So,

Speaker 5 somebody liked you on that defense. Like, did you, did that catch you completely by surprise when you were named captain?

Speaker 1 Uh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's not like

Speaker 4 that year, I was literally like you're trying to just vie for a starting spot because they didn't draft nobody, so you feel good. You knew you were going to the offseason, they didn't pick up anybody.

Speaker 4 You're like, fuck, they kind of believe in the boy.

Speaker 4 And then when I got voted captain, like, that's definitely, like, I told you on that pod, too, like, that's probably my favorite like accolade and accomplishment, like looking back on my career as like being voted captain.

Speaker 4 Because I'm sitting in there with Trent Williams, D'Angelo Hall, Kirk Cousins, Niles Paul. Shout out to all the boys.
But no, that was probably the coolest.

Speaker 4 That was fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 All right, so we got to start doing rehearsal for the Arizona, Barstool, Arizona Bowl. We got to start today.

Speaker 1 We were just getting into the government. Wolf of Wilson.

Speaker 1 Well, I want to do two announcements. So one is that you guys are going to join us on a stream for wild car weekend.
Can we lock it in? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Taylor?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can make it. Yeah.
Okay. All right.
So Wild Card weekend, you guys are going to fly to New York. We'll do both days.
It's going to be awesome.

Speaker 7 Saturday. Gambling stream.

Speaker 1 Saturday, Sunday.

Speaker 7 Gambling stream that you guys will gamble and I will be there not gambling.

Speaker 1 Right, not gambling. And also, if the Dolphins do make the playoffs and you guys have to sit there with Frank, you'll probably never come back, but that's fine.

Speaker 1 He's laughing in the corner. It was a great laugh.

Speaker 1 He knows, too. He's like, he knows that

Speaker 1 you guys will be there and it won't go well. And you'll be like, I can't do this anymore.

Speaker 4 Is the gambling cave? Is that like sponsored by the sports book?

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 4 It's not me. It's not me.
I'm not talking about me.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 4 There's only one other person, but I'm not talking about myself.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right, right. So we'll figure it out.
You're mind the other person?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think it's a good idea.

Speaker 1 I think that we just talk about it. I will not be gambling on this show.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like you do, like the Arizona Bowl, it had to be things that had to be done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, no, we'll figure it out. We'll see if it worked for you.
We can take the graphic down for that. Yeah.
Yeah. We'll be fine.

Speaker 1 And the other one is you guys are both, should we announce it right now, moving to Chicago. So

Speaker 1 once I laugh.

Speaker 1 Once I laugh.

Speaker 1 So it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, that's definitely the conversation that's being had.

Speaker 7 Multiple conversations that need to be had. Real ones.
Not like you surprise us every day.

Speaker 1 How would you rate my,

Speaker 1 like, if I were a recruiter, our living room conversations that we've had? Have I done an okay job as a recruiter?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think you do a good job. Okay.
I do. I think you do a good job.

Speaker 1 I got to put it a little more on him. It's tough because he's got a lot of money, so he doesn't.

Speaker 4 have to do anything.

Speaker 4 It's like business.

Speaker 7 He's an A-suit thing.

Speaker 1 It's a one-two thing. Yeah, right, right, exactly.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's like Ryan Whitney.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 5 the Chicago Bears love tight ends. Didn't they have like 18 tight ends?

Speaker 1 Ooh, get the Bears.

Speaker 1 Ryan the Windy Swing. Winter contract.

Speaker 1 You got another year?

Speaker 7 Oh, no. I'll be cut.
I'll be free.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'll be free.
Don't you worry. I will be on the freeze team.
I will be cut. I will be cut.

Speaker 5 Have you talked of Rabes?

Speaker 1 Will it still hurt? Well,

Speaker 1 that's going to hurt. That's why I'm getting out in front of it.

Speaker 1 Hey, guys, guess what? Hey, guess what? I know I'm going to get cut, so cool. What What do you say about Braves?

Speaker 5 Well, no, I was just curious. Like, when the GM got fired, we were like, shit, that guy sucked.
Maybe he wasn't going to cut me.

Speaker 7 No, no, no. John was for sure going to cut me.

Speaker 1 And the new guy's going to cut you. He's going to cut me as well.
He's going to look at the map and be like, oh, two ACLs and three A's? See above? They could hire your mom and she'd cut you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She'd look at the cat.

Speaker 1 Oh, we got to do it.

Speaker 7 I hope the GM now for the Titans, the interim GM,

Speaker 7 Ryan, I hope he keeps the job. That dude's awesome.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. This is good.
This is smart. Put her on him up.
I hope he keeps the good job. Yeah, that's a good play, guys.

Speaker 1 That's a good play.

Speaker 1 And also, that Budabaker play that never happened. Never happened.
Never happened.

Speaker 1 Don't even look at the tape.

Speaker 7 Right. If it plays again, I'm going to sue everybody.
So

Speaker 1 don't do that.

Speaker 4 Hey, delete this. Delete this.
Delete this. Hey, so you don't think Kirk Cousins was the best option that the Redskins have had in the last decade?

Speaker 5 No, Taylor Heineke actually has a better win-loss percentage than Kirk Cousins does. If you want to talk math, also, Taylor Heineke has never missed the target on his own gender reveal.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 1 I'll say this.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to say one bad word about Heineke because he's a stud.

Speaker 7 He's a stud.

Speaker 1 He's one of the boys.

Speaker 5 He is a boy.

Speaker 5 I'm going to get carried away because the Carson Wentz news that was announced two days ago.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm saying. Like, Heineke's not even the quarterback right now.
So I don't understand why that's your argument.

Speaker 5 I'm a blazing ball of rage because I have to root for Carson Wentz for the next two weeks and

Speaker 5 meaningful football.

Speaker 4 You're going to see the quarterback that you wish you had advanced in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 Kirk Cousins? Yeah. Maybe that's part of it.
Maybe that's part. Maybe it's because I'm blinded with rage and I secretly want Kirk Cousins back.

Speaker 5 And this is my defense mechanism: just absolutely hating his guts and loving all the other ones. Yeah, it's like, you know, the one that got away.

Speaker 1 You're like, I don't want her anyways. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't need him. We don't need him.

Speaker 5 Yeah, fuck it. I'm better off without him.
Yeah. I got Taylor Heineke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go with the prettier girl. They're just going to fail you once you get to the dance.
Text.

Speaker 1 We're going to do the rehearsal.

Speaker 7 Pete. We were supposed to do a rehearsal two and a half hours ago.

Speaker 1 I know, I know.

Speaker 1 Last thing I was going to say is: tier one in AWLs,

Speaker 7 handshake.

Speaker 4 We do need a

Speaker 4 common ground handshake for sure.

Speaker 1 Strong, strong.

Speaker 1 We're all rowing in the same boat.

Speaker 4 Do you think people still think we're not on the same team as much as we're going to be doing this?

Speaker 1 I think there's still some people online who don't realize that we're actually friends. And they're like, they're really talking shit to each other.
But that's just the internet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's always fun.

Speaker 7 Anyone who watches any of our shows has got to realize nothing's serious.

Speaker 1 Right. And it's very funny, too, because when you guys will bash me or something, you guys will text me before and be like, there's some tape coming out.
Want to get a vet?

Speaker 7 I know we have to go, but how did you feel when you saw that clip about me talking about your weight?

Speaker 4 It is what it is.

Speaker 1 Listen, 2023 is the hard body year. I'm going to get a hard body.
People like Hank, haters. Hank's more of a tier one.
I did say that.

Speaker 4 I did see that. I did see the haters.
He

Speaker 1 and Hank. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. He's the biggest hater I got.
So you don't think he can go hardbody? Hard body. Oh, I'm going hard body.
I'm losing 25 pounds in 2023.

Speaker 7 Are you going to do it the natural way? Are you going to do it the Liver King way?

Speaker 1 If someone could maybe give me a hookup for the Liver King way, I'm open for business.

Speaker 5 Billy, Will, and Jack. I don't trust Billy.

Speaker 1 Billy doesn't. Will, would you know anything about it? Oh, he started pointing at me.
So, okay. Somebody in here might be able to.

Speaker 1 You did that whole, you read off that paper, and then you're like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm not going to read off the paper.
I'm talking to the camera.

Speaker 7 How was that?

Speaker 1 That was so bad. We did like three takes.

Speaker 7 We did like three takes.

Speaker 1 That was so. Oh, we could tell.
Yeah, you did good. You did good.
You're like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'm going to do this from the heart.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's before.

Speaker 1 Someone was in your smoothie, right? Someone put something in your smoothie. No.

Speaker 1 Like, what are you going to do?

Speaker 7 I did not knowingly take anything. I'm going to my grave sitting next to you.

Speaker 1 Right, no, the smoothie. Just do the smoothie.
It's a smoothie. Just do a Jamba juice.
Next thing you know, pop for PEDs. Or just GNC.
Just like everyone. And it got contaminated.
It got worse up.

Speaker 1 It went $17.

Speaker 1 Jedusta told me that this is good to go.

Speaker 5 And I could use it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, I can't stand when I'm getting put on trial over here and you're talking to me or trying to listen to you.

Speaker 7 But then you're laughing about something I didn't hear. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did it make you feel stronger?

Speaker 5 I felt pretty good.

Speaker 4 I felt good.

Speaker 4 Legit in my head, I was like, I remember that offseason being like, fuck, dude, I look good.

Speaker 5 This is incredible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this Jamba juice that I get every day. And

Speaker 1 I got a text.

Speaker 7 I stayed in Encinitas, California, and the guy who stayed there, who owns the place, sends me a picture of a letter.

Speaker 4 It's like, hey, man.

Speaker 7 I saw this letter. I opened it.
I'm sorry, but here's the letter. And it was the letter saying I failed for a piece.

Speaker 1 Wait, the guy texted you? He texted me again. You can't do that.
You've got a federal offense. You're federal back in.

Speaker 7 It's a federal offense. Yeah.
But yeah, he sent that to me, and I was like, dude, that was a miserable experience. Miserable.

Speaker 5 Did you appeal it?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I appealed it, but there's nothing you can do. Yeah, what's the appeal like?

Speaker 1 Are you sure?

Speaker 7 There's only one person in NFL history to ever bid pop for something and get a, and I guess, get away with it, or like.

Speaker 1 Peyton Manning's wife?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 Dwayne Brown.

Speaker 7 Dwayne Brown went to Mexico, had like 14 cheeseburgers. Yeah.
And there was something in the meat. The Caneli.

Speaker 1 And he popped it on the odd half of the seat.

Speaker 7 And that's the only thing. That's incredible.

Speaker 5 Too many cheeseburgers in Mexico works.

Speaker 1 That's only cheeseburgers in Mexico.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's an odd thing.

Speaker 1 I mean, I can have PEDs in the year 10.

Speaker 4 And if the union not fighting for the boys, huh? The union not fighting for the boys. That's one thing we have in common.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 True,

Speaker 7 the union is

Speaker 1 bad.

Speaker 5 Do you remember when it was Ontario Smith, I think? They busted a woman

Speaker 5 because he got caught with a fake dick.

Speaker 5 He had a fake dick that was attached to a Ziploc bag. So when he had to do the drug test, he just, you know, because they watch UP apparently, which that's got to be weird, right?

Speaker 7 When they're like, no, I was was putting the drug program,

Speaker 7 so I peed in front of people like seven times a month.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 4 But the best thing to do, like, when you can't be, is obviously go to. That's when it gets weird because you got to have the door open.
They're sitting there looking at you. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Watch you take a shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that also is like, I mean, your kids are old enough. Your kid is not old enough yet.
Like, my son watched me piss every day.

Speaker 4 But you're talking about your kids.

Speaker 4 I'm talking about another grown man.

Speaker 1 It's like, all right, oh, no, but he just points it. He's like, look, you're peeing.
Did you ever get your penis?

Speaker 5 I'm like, thanks, dude.

Speaker 1 Did you ever get sad? I had girls.

Speaker 7 I had another girl, Daddy, you get a weird foofie.

Speaker 1 I'm like, like, oh, God.

Speaker 5 The drug guy came in and he's like, okay, you have to pee in front of me. Did you ever have to be like, can you give me a second?

Speaker 1 Like, I got to mentally.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if I don't have to come up and I'm trying to actually think about it, I need some time. Like, I need to flip something on.
Like, noise needs to be going down.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's a scared little boy. He doesn't want to come out all the time.

Speaker 1 That's got to be the worst job in the world. I want to come out on that.
Case race.

Speaker 7 Speaking of, are we going to do a case? Can I put it in a case race or what?

Speaker 1 Yes, there's birthdays coming up in January.

Speaker 4 We need that schedule.

Speaker 7 We should probably do the same thing as Wild Car Weekend.

Speaker 1 Maybe do it Friday. Oh, we could.
Yeah, we could do it. Do it Friday and make a whole weekend out of it.
Yes, we could.

Speaker 4 Saturday will be miserable.

Speaker 1 Miserable.

Speaker 7 Get some IVs, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Get some Tordall.

Speaker 1 Get some Tordall for the ball. Get some Tordol for the stream.
Yes. Frankly, Tordol would be great.
Yes.

Speaker 7 Frank was sprinting all over the building, dude.

Speaker 1 He'd be like, holy shit.

Speaker 5 You just bite right through his hat.

Speaker 1 Just snap it.

Speaker 7 I'll tell you what,

Speaker 7 you need to work on that anger a little bit, Frank, because when we were in In N N N Out Burger, you were chewing the shit out of that shirt. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I can't imagine how many shirts you go through a football season.

Speaker 5 If he's on Twitter, I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 4 You say Miami Dolphins starts fucking.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we started talking about Tua, and he just...

Speaker 1 I don't want to even get into it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you grab the glasses. Is it a bit?

Speaker 1 No, no, Frank is the real deal. That's why he's the best.

Speaker 1 He's as real, real as a guest.

Speaker 7 If anything has come out of this weekend and we've only been here for a couple hours, it's I fucking love Frank.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Our little In-N-Out trip was nice.
Oh, yeah. How was it unique?

Speaker 5 What do you guys think about the In-N-Out versus five guys?

Speaker 7 Don't even answer it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we've already it. I always fight too.

Speaker 1 I went down last year.

Speaker 1 Scott Frost, that happened with Nebraska. Hey, I sacked Sam Brad.
Thank you, boys. Appreciate it.
Five guys. Oh, it's five guys.

Speaker 1 Everyone check out Will and Taylor are going to be on the broadcast doing stuff for the Barstool Arizona Bulls. So it's going to be a great day.

Speaker 7 Thank you, guys. Thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap it up. Firefest of the week.

Speaker 1 We do have a lottery ball machine. Hank has a chance at the end of this show.
We taped it last week when we were still in the office.

Speaker 1 His last chance to either hit it two times in a row or hit it for the first time. You don't know.

Speaker 1 What? Penultimate. No, this is the penultimate, but I'm saying he's going to have one more chance to either hit it two times in a row or hit it for the first time or not get it again.

Speaker 1 on Sunday's show when we're back in studio.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so my Fire Fest is related to that.

Speaker 6 You know, it's a lot of people, every time I go out and stoolies, they come up to me, they say a number. It's basically the only thing people talk to me about.

Speaker 1 Wait, have you ever gotten it?

Speaker 6 I have not ever gotten it. And it has reached the local news in Oregon.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 KVAL, Channel 13,

Speaker 1 KBS.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Hayden, one of the news anchors in the middle of their segment, was like, I have a friend named Henry who I guess AWS are all friends, but he's like, I have a friend named Henry.

Speaker 1 He's a friend. He's a friend of mine.

Speaker 6 Who's been guessing balls forever and he's never gotten it. So that was just like, didn't need to see that.

Speaker 1 I'll just, we're in the trust tree.

Speaker 1 I was just reading all the replies to your quote tweet of that and just giggling, laying in bed, because everyone was just like, dude, why don't you just get it right?

Speaker 1 Why don't you, have you ever thought about getting it? And it's the dumbest joke ever, but it makes me laugh so much because why don't you just get it right?

Speaker 5 It's crazy to think that everybody else has gotten it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just pick the number.

Speaker 5 All you have to do is pick it.

Speaker 5 I would say that probably like 90% of AWO, my favorite is when AWOs reply to tweets and being like, Hank, I hadn't gotten it either until three months ago and I was riding in my car and I got it.

Speaker 6 You guys, I mean,

Speaker 6 I drove out a day with my friend Devin and we were talking about it and he was earnestly. Like, why don't you just pick it up? No, no, he earnestly said, has everyone else gotten it?

Speaker 1 Yes. And I was like,

Speaker 7 have you practiced, Hank?

Speaker 1 You said that. Some practice.
Just

Speaker 1 I tried that with

Speaker 1 roulette. Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 pick the right number.

Speaker 1 okay all right tune in okay tune in so you're good yeah yeah you'll just pick the right number new year new man just try that i will

Speaker 1 you're never gonna get it you're never ever gonna get it you're never gonna get it have you thought about that just never getting it every day i think about it like if we do this show for another 20 years and you still don't get it i don't know i no

Speaker 1 do you do

Speaker 5 do you even want the five thousand dollars Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, you get it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 You're not acting like it. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Just wait. Just wait.

Speaker 6 It's all going to be.

Speaker 6 I'm just boiling it all in. I'm going to let it all out once I get it.

Speaker 1 When if you got it on the last one.

Speaker 6 I mean, I'll get it. Why don't I get it right now? When if I get it right now.

Speaker 1 Actually, that would be. We spoiled today.

Speaker 1 Hey, spoiled it. Hank didn't get it because he fucking sucks at getting it.
So the last one will be January 1st.

Speaker 5 It would actually suck if Hank got this because nobody would believe that it's true.

Speaker 1 Not because it's the last one of the year. It's not rigged.

Speaker 5 They would not think that it was rigged because it was like the last one for the money. And we've all built up.
They would just not believe it because there's no way that Hank can get it.

Speaker 1 The only person who has a fair rigged comment is memes, because we did do an audit and we couldn't find the number of money.

Speaker 1 The number three ball is missing.

Speaker 9 But we think it may have happened when you left the door open.

Speaker 1 Right. And memes,

Speaker 1 Tom Fernelli. Tom Fernelli, but Memes has guessed three every episode, so that's funny.
But even he's gotten it. Yeah, he got it.
He got it.

Speaker 5 And most of his don't even count.

Speaker 9 When we get back, we have to find that three ball or find it.

Speaker 1 Find a replacement.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll put it in a replacement. All right.
PFT, your Fire Fest.

Speaker 5 My Fire Fest of the Week is I've got a friend, and

Speaker 5 he has been really struggling recently.

Speaker 5 It's really been heartbreaking to see him go through. You know, sometimes in life you have

Speaker 5 awkward stuff that happens, bad stuff, things that we can joke about, but sometimes it's like real serious stuff. And my friend has never gotten the lottery ball correct.
He's been trying to guess it.

Speaker 5 And it's really been affecting me. I've been trying to be a good friend about it, but it's just so much more fun to make fun of not getting it.

Speaker 5 So I've been having the angel on one shoulder, the demon on the other.

Speaker 5 But it is pretty funny that he hasn't got it.

Speaker 9 I'm not going to lie, you kind of scared me.

Speaker 9 I thought something happened.

Speaker 1 Something did happen. Hank sucks at getting lottery ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just pick it right.

Speaker 1 No, yeah. Not okay because you can't do that.
You can't follow the very simple instructions.

Speaker 5 It's made me feel like a loser hanging out with him.

Speaker 5 That's my fire fest. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 My fire fest is 2023 is going to be my hardbody year. I'm going to get in shape.
Max is coming with me. We're going on a journey, a journey to our physical cores.

Speaker 1 But what happens, and this is probably why I've ballooned up year after year, what happens before I've decided I'm going to do a diet, I just eat everything.

Speaker 1 So I've been doing that for three weeks now, where it's like not eat ice cream on a Monday, cheesesteak every day, fries for lunch. It's gotten to the point where I'm disgusted with myself.

Speaker 1 I feel gross.

Speaker 1 But January 1st, new me.

Speaker 1 Watch, Hank. I'll be watching.
Oh.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do the thing you can't do and actually just

Speaker 1 get it right.

Speaker 6 I'm going to do both.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. We all going to get hot?

Speaker 1 I believe in everybody. We all going to get hard bodies? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Listen, you're not going to see a hotter podcast in the world than us.

Speaker 1 Should we do it? We should do like an office total weight challenge versus another podcast.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 Who should we go up against?

Speaker 1 Call her daddy. Oh, okay.
Nice, nice. Good call.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Fingers crossed, she gets pregnant.

Speaker 9 I just got a reminder for Hank to read the bonk list.

Speaker 1 We're doing that on Wednesday. Oh, okay.
Yeah, you missed the start of the show. You're a slacker.
He was in a production meeting in the truck for the game. All right, Jake, finish this off.
Okay.

Speaker 9 This is going to be a YouTube exclusive.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 9 You guys are going to get the reaction.

Speaker 1 You're pregnant. Oh.
Ready?

Speaker 5 You're back on the ship.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 Jake. Jake, wait.
I am holding

Speaker 1 a cockpipe of ather.

Speaker 9 No spray. The Florida weather, the allergies that got me really bad.

Speaker 9 The seasonal allergies. I was very stuffy.
I'm good right now.

Speaker 1 Most people go to Florida being like, oh, this is nice. Like, clear up what I got because I'm not in the cold.

Speaker 9 I slept really well last night.

Speaker 1 Listen.

Speaker 5 Oh, God. Jake, you're back on the hotel.

Speaker 10 I couldn't even do that yesterday.

Speaker 5 Jake, can I give you some advice? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Start smoking.

Speaker 1 Smoke some sinks. Jake, it might help your voice tomorrow.
A little raspy. I got coffee for all.
No, no, no. But to reverse it, I'm saying, to make you look a little bluesy.

Speaker 5 You sound like a man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Have your balls drop.

Speaker 9 The problem last time is it says on the box, don't do it more than three days in a row.

Speaker 1 And you didn't follow the box. Correct.
Which is illegal, and we should call the cops. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Also, a little programming note, calling a basketball game on Sunday back in New York.

Speaker 1 Hell yes.

Speaker 9 ESPN 3, 4 p.m.

Speaker 1 Manhattan versus Quinnipiac. Let's go.
Quinnipiac.

Speaker 5 Me and Big Cat are professors at Quinnipiac.

Speaker 1 Awesome.

Speaker 1 What time? 4 p.m. Eastern.

Speaker 1 So we'll have it on there. Did it never happen? Yeah, you can.
Wait, what does that mean?

Speaker 6 If it never aired, did that ever happen? Yeah,

Speaker 5 we taught a class there.

Speaker 1 We did teach a class there. Don't try to bring it down.
I'm actually calling back. Don't try to bring us down.
You're looking very negative right now.

Speaker 9 Next Sunday, I'm calling pregame against Niagara.

Speaker 1 He's calling two?

Speaker 9 Yeah, Sunday and Sunday.

Speaker 1 Fuck yes. So

Speaker 9 4 p.m. this Sunday.

Speaker 1 I will bet it.

Speaker 1 And you better call it correctly.

Speaker 9 Do my best. Look at it.

Speaker 5 Wait, who's Quinnipiac playing?

Speaker 9 Manhattan.

Speaker 1 That's who's hosting. Okay.

Speaker 1 I feel like that's a good. I mean, I'm supporting you.
I'm going to bet it. I'm going to watch it.
I appreciate it. And if you fuck up the call on the over-under,

Speaker 1 I'll be upset. Fair.
Tough love. Arizona Bowl.
That's awesome. Friday.
And Satan.

Speaker 1 You're calling three games in a week.

Speaker 5 This is like when Joe Buck calls World Series.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake, our boy's growing up.

Speaker 5 We're going to have to make a graphic of how Jake got from the Arizona Bowl all the way up to New York to call in two days.

Speaker 1 In two days, yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, just a heads up to everyone out there, I know it's an NFL Sunday, but if you don't open up your computer and turn on the game while Jake's calling it, you're a scumbag, and I hope you get hit by a bus.

Speaker 1 Yep. Fair? Exactly.

Speaker 9 Okay. Also, final housekeeping note.
This is my last chance to lock in. Yeah, I missed the first half of the show, but last flex of the year.

Speaker 1 Also, did you guys remember...

Speaker 5 Jake, you're fresher. You're 0 for 3 on flexes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. But

Speaker 1 I'm not 0 for

Speaker 1 whatever it is. All right.
Oh, wow. Wait, are you going to be awesome? Oh, the watery ball?

Speaker 1 True, true, true. I thought you were saying it's a hungry dog.
No, no, no, the water ball. I think we won the hungry dog.
Yeah, I did win the hungry dog.

Speaker 1 Asterix.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 10 we actually are getting two Saturday games next week, week 18.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Huh? What?

Speaker 9 We're getting two Saturday games on week 18 and the normal Sunday night flex.

Speaker 1 So they're announcing all of that after this week's set of games. Oh, my God.
All right. So what do you think is going to be flexed?

Speaker 9 So I think Sunday night should be the AFC South. It should be Titans-Jaguars.

Speaker 5 Because

Speaker 1 Sunday night?

Speaker 1 You don't think so? NFL rigged. You ready for this? They don't NFL rigged.
Packers, Lions, Jaguars.

Speaker 1 Nope. NFL rigged.

Speaker 1 Ravens are going to win, and the Bills are going to win. NFL rigged.
Ravens-Bengals for the AFC North.

Speaker 9 NFL rigged. I feel like that's going to be one of the.

Speaker 9 I think those three games will be the flex.

Speaker 1 I don't know who they are.

Speaker 9 Ravens, Bengals, Packers, Lions, and the AFC South.

Speaker 1 Well, you have to call it. You have to call which ones you think.

Speaker 5 Now, wait,

Speaker 5 if the Commanders lose this week, I could see it being Lions Packers because then the winner of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. He's got that as one of his three.

Speaker 1 Do you guys agree with those three? Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 6 we don't make picks for a bit.

Speaker 1 Clearly, I don't either. I think.
I could see the Lions being Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 4 Go ahead.

Speaker 1 They usually do that. This is your segment that you create.
I know. That I'm so bad at it.

Speaker 5 What if it's Dolphins, Jets?

Speaker 1 Also, can we eliminate that? On the table. But also, that's

Speaker 1 two of fingers.

Speaker 9 They usually do the winner goes to the playoffs, loser goes out.

Speaker 1 So I'll stick with AFC South. All right.

Speaker 9 When the last time Jags were on Sunday Night Football,

Speaker 1 the Packers-Lions would be that, though.

Speaker 1 Would it not? Lions. Packers-Lions would be winner.
Oh. Yeah.
Crap. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That actually is going to be Sunday Night Football. I'm not going to build Air Force.

Speaker 1 And the Lions, that would be Sunday Night Football. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I can't switch, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, like, no, you can.

Speaker 1 You made this segment up. You can come on.

Speaker 9 Also, last week, the NFL even waited to announce the flex. Did you guys see that?

Speaker 1 Bullshit. Yeah.
All right, so make a pick. Official pick.
Okay.

Speaker 9 Lions, Packers, Sunday night.

Speaker 9 The two Saturday games will be Ravens, Bengals, and AFC South.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That will be an awesome.

Speaker 9 I just screwed myself because if I'm wrong, I'm sort of stuck with my gut. If I'm right, you get the assists.

Speaker 5 Yep. I do think that

Speaker 5 the Jaguars, Titans, it has Saturday night energy to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Big time. Big time.

Speaker 9 But yeah, Saturday week 18 double header is great.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's going to be awesome.

Speaker 5 Thank you, Commissioner Ghiddo.

Speaker 9 Also, next year, Monday Night Football Football can be flexed at a certain point.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Okay. We got to look at the details.
That was definitely in Joe Bucks' contract.

Speaker 1 By the way, did you see our two dads fighting? Oh, Joe Buck.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 5 what are they fighting about?

Speaker 1 Scott didn't ask Joe. He only asked him one question, and Joe was like, why am I here?

Speaker 1 It was one of those, I think they're joking, but I also was like,

Speaker 1 is this real?

Speaker 5 Well, Scott Fampell had to get back to making sure that Jacob DeGrom was not not going to sign with the Mets. That's true.

Speaker 1 That's true. He and Buster only.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's kick it to ourselves in studio. See if Hank gets the lottery ball machine.

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Wow.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 we're back in studio again for the lottery ball. It's still December 22nd.
We're taping it. Hank, this is your second to last, or as Jake would say, penultimate

Speaker 7 chance.

Speaker 1 Henry, have you ever gotten this? No. You're never going to get it.

Speaker 5 You know what's going to be great when Hank doesn't get this? It means he's going to have like a week and a half to just think, I only have one more chance. Right.

Speaker 5 And to try to think of what that last number was. I'll take that though.

Speaker 1 And just wait, and just having to sit there and wait for the episode to come out so people can just be like, Hank, didn't get it again.

Speaker 9 This is like the game before the bye week, where whatever happens, you have to sit on that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and mentally, it's huge.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we should actually just retire the lottery ball machine after this year.

Speaker 5 Final one of this year, Hank could never get it.

Speaker 1 Final one of 2022.

Speaker 5 Here lies Beavis. He never scored.

Speaker 1 This is, yeah, this is Hank's second straight year of never getting it in a calendar year.

Speaker 1 Is that correct?

Speaker 1 That is correct. Okay, Hank, you've never gotten it? Nope.
All right, what is your number? 17. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll go 28.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go

Speaker 5 69.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 9 18 and Sebastian is 39.

Speaker 1 Billy, you just. Billy, come on, man.
What were you doing?

Speaker 4 I'm thinking of animal facts.

Speaker 1 I didn't know we had to do so many animal facts in one day. Okay.
What's your number?

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 89. 89.
20.

Speaker 1 Hank, why are you stressing? You're not going to get it.

Speaker 1 It's not going to happen, pal.

Speaker 1 buddy never

Speaker 1 oh

Speaker 1 96 is it 96 or 69 it's 96. wow i was

Speaker 1 i was literally thinking of doing that that's crazy surprise surprise hank

Speaker 1 didn't get it Hank didn't get it.

Speaker 5 One more chance, Hank. You got one more shot.
He's thinking real hard.

Speaker 1 He doesn't even have a shot because he's not going to get it.

Speaker 5 Well, he's got one more chance to try.

Speaker 1 You're just bad at this. Man.
Have you realized how bad you are?

Speaker 5 How many times have we done this, Jake?

Speaker 5 I got a count, but over 200.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he just, you can't get it. Wow.
Just, here's a tip, Hank.

Speaker 1 Why don't you just pick the number that comes out?

Speaker 1 Like, I would have just, if I were you, I would have picked 96 right there.

Speaker 5 You should come up with your final four numbers that you want to pick and then have, do a Twitter poll, have people vote on it. Let the people pick your last number.

Speaker 1 That's actually a good idea. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter in all four of those.

Speaker 5 But once you say it, it'll be poisoned. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Okay. See everyone next year.

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