NFL Week 11, Fastest 2 Minutes, Vikings Get Whomped & Zach Wilson May Be An Issue

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On today's Pardon My Take, week 11 of the NFL, we recap every game, fastest two minutes, a lot of things happened, a lot of moving and shaking, a little bit of more clarity on who's good, who's not. So we're going to go through every single game on Sunday.
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Today is Monday, November 21st, week 11. What? What? And before we get started, we want to wish a congratulations to our friends up north,

the Toronto Argonauts, the Grey Cup. Fantastic game.
Frank Kelly, his uncle, very good friend. Very good friend.
We start in Foxborough, where Zach Wilson was running a Coors Light special, 9 for 22. The game was a punt fest as Braden Juwanaman has the Jets still searching for theirs.
And Michael Lottie Dottie, we like to parlate, added another seven punts for the Patriots. In a matchup of which quarterback sucks more, the Macium Cleaner sucked better, and it was another M.A.
Jones who came up huge as Marcus ran, ran his way to victory with a punt return touchdown with five seconds left. Jets plus three and a half.
Some spread. Patriots 10, Jets 3.
To Detroit we go for the Browns and the Bills. Huh? The Bills went across a body of water as Stefan Bay of Diggs went Cuba diving in hopes of smoking a victory cigar.
The run police were out in full force to spare Buffalo's offense, only to forget that they have Devin Little Singletary's magic. Everything he does just turns them on as he rushed for 86 yards and a score.
The game was a blowout, but unfortunately Donovan fucked the people's. Scored with 30 seconds left to screw the Bills backers.
Hey, Teej. Yeah, boom? No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.
Bills 31, Browse 23. Down to Indianapolis where Jeff, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Jeff Saturday's all right, all right.
Jalen Flirts was bumbling as the Eagles' one seed hinged on his play, but he kept grinding and was able to dig deep and farm. There's only a win out of an otherwise poor Philadelphia performance.

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Eagles 17.

Colts 16.

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In Houston, we're in a plot twist.

Kendall Roy Fuller and Logan Roy Thomas played on the same team for once as the commanders let their waist heart shine bright, cruising to a victory. We don't talk about the cruises, good.
Casey Anthony Tuhill wrapped up a Texans ball carrier and then acted all innocent, but everyone knew that he did it. Cheer up, Texans fans.
The Astros just won a World Series without cheating, so you've got that going for you, which is nice. They've actually won three more games in Houston than the Texans have all season long.
And so it's an Astros time, and all three of those games are against the Philadelphia team as well. Commanders 23, Texans 10.
In Atlanta, where the Bears met the Falcons in a battle of Billy Football's dreams. Speaking of Met, Cole had a highlight catch as the ball come at his hand in the first half for a big game.

Cordero Ruben Patterson, a.k.a. the Kobe Stopper, slithered through the kickoff defense for his record-breaking ninth kickoff return for a touchdown.
Breaking moves. Breaking moves.
LeBron James just tweeted when I saw Cordero Patterson

get drafted by the Vikings in 2013, I said to my boys, That guy is going to break the kickoff return record someday. The Bears had one last drive fall flat as fields pass to David Montgomery Burns smithered the last chance in a Bears victory.
Falcons 27, Bears 24.

We go to the Meadowlands where Giants quarterback Daniel got thrown

to the lion's den. Aiden

Abetton Hutchison got away with

another interception and it's soup season

for Campbell as he went right at

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living rent free in the minds of Giants fans. No cap, but Jamal Billiams was fedorable and got himself fitted for a hat trick.
Sombrero. Lions 31, Giants 18.
In Minnesota, where many people have been saying don't rush to judgment on the 8-1 Vikings, we must wait for all the Dax to come out. Dallas put on their Tony Cowboy Pollard and ran the ball down Minnesota's throat.
And let's hope Ezekiel Elliott Ness doesn't stay in town because Viking fans will need a drink after this whopping. Anytime Nick Mullins and Adam Threlin appear on a telecast, you're going to be dealing with some problematic footage as Big D goes to Cometown, R.I.P.
Cowboys 40, Vikings 3. Up to mile high where Broncos fans are calling him Nathaniel, take off your pants and hack it because this guy's coaching like a jerk off.
After a prophetic pregame statement from Coach Hackett that somebody has to win, the game went into overtime and was headed to a tie. But in a touching tribute to my good friend Elon Musk's Tesla Autopilot system, the Broncos secondary wasn't able to recognize a man by himself being targeted by a car.
The Raiders take down down the broadcores 22-16. Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston down in Nola.
Such a fine sight to see. It's McVay, my lord.
What's he coaching for? He should have taken the job on TV. Come on, Perkins.
Tigers lurking. And Jameis' soul is hurting.
Saints go marching 27-20. And that was week 11 fastest two minutes.
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We're stepping into fourth quarter of Chargers Chiefs, and we will update you after that.

But week 11 in the books, great week.

Great week 11.

I feel like we learned some stuff.

There was kind of some duds of games,

not a ton of scoring in the first slate,

but some compelling storylines coming out of this week.

Some things we learned.

I really learned a lot about one team today.

There's one team that I'm not smiling. I might sound like I'm smiling and it might sound like I'm about to take a victory lap, but I am against all forms of running.
So I will not be taking a victory lap yet. Yeah.
But I am. Yeah.
I am going to enjoy talking about this week's NFL. Yes.
Yes. We do it chronologically.
So it will be the last game we talk about. So for the people who maybe are on our side, you can just wait for that.
And the people who have been sickos and perverts and weirdos listening to us have to lament a certain team going 8-1 up until this week, this won't be fun for you. But let's hop in.
Let's do chronological order. Let's start with Patriots-Jets.
Patriots 10, Jets 3. That's actually not chronological order because for some reason this game started like 15 minutes late.
Did we ever figure out what was going on with that? No idea. It's classic Belichick.
Power outside the stadium. Yeah, Belichick.
Belichick, absolutely. In and outside the stadium.
He had one of those EMPs from Ocean's 11 that fried all the electronics. Yeah, so it did start a little late.
But Patriots 10, Jets 3, an absolute defensive slugfest, snoozefest offensively, 3-3 tie going into the last 30 seconds until we had a Braden Mann line drive punt to Marcus Jones, who returned it 84 yards for the first punt return touchdown this season, and the Patriots win 10-3. I don't know where we want to start.
I mean, there's a lot of... We should start with the winners, Hank.
Yeah, let's start with the Patriots. It was the first game in the last 40 seasons in which the first touchdown scored was a defense or special teams touchdown in the final minute of the game.
Also, this is a game that we've never seen before. It also game of Gami.
Our guy, Stathole Sports, who has stats backing up to 1999, said the first time he could find that the special teams and extra point scored more than both offenses. so that was 7 points at the end by special teams and extra point more than the six points that both offense were able to produce with field goals.
Interesting. It's crazy.
So Hank, the floor is yours. Yeah.
Congratulations. Mac Jones, he's a winner because I think we know we have a lot of other things we got to discuss.
Mac Jones wins football games. Yeah.
One of the worst games I i've ever watched i i was just miserable it was a miserable viewing experience there was really no fun no joy till the end we did win we did cover which is crazy that's an all-time bad beat yes i had jets three and a half i was texting friends being like we need to get a pick six which was in play because zach wilson is one of the worst quarterbacks i've ever had to watch that was in play and that was my only thinking of how we could win this game is like we need to pick six, touchdown, we can win and cover. Not even factoring in a punt return.
But yeah, it was, I guess we won. I'm happy.
It was gross. We suck.
At least when the Patriots had the ball. The play calling, I will say this about the play calling.
I'm not a football mind. You guys, you know, Billy played football.
You guys know football. I don't know football play calling, you know, to save my life.
I just played Madden. It drives me fucking insane when, you know, it's third and seven, third and eight, and we just throw the ball to like three yards past.
Like, just take a shot. Like, try and not like third and and 15, not third and 14.
Third and eight, third and six, third and seven. Just have the receivers run a route, pass the line to gain, and then throw them a pass.
The best way to sum up this game, because there was no offense, but Mac Jones didn't play bad. He just, you know, he – He was dinging dunk.
Yeah, right he there was a stretch where he was 10 for 10 in a row for 134 yards and in that stretch he was sacked four times so in the 10 for 10 stretch he was sacked four times that was the type of game we were dealing with where Mac Jones actually played pretty well uh especially when you consider the guy he was playing against in Zach Wilson also also hank i'll say that matthew judon is just an absolute game wrecker uh he has 13 and a half sacks on the season he's a fucking beast um but yeah a win is a win is a win and now we should probably talk about zach wilson and oh boy is it bad well here's a fun stat uh they had more punts than he had completions today. PFT, here's another fun stat.
In the second half, Zach Wilson had four completions for 12 yards. Oh, wow.
Okay, go ahead. Because I had another fun stat.
He had 44 net yards on 26 dropbacks. Oof, oof.
That's like less than two yards per dropback. Yeah.
So he was nine for 22 for 77 yards, not net yards, 77 yards. And 34 of those yards came on one play.
He also, and this is probably the bigger issue, afterwards was asked, do you feel like you let the defense down? And he replied, no. He also added, I think you have to take into account it's windy as hell out there too, guys.
Good point. So wind was a factor.
But there was also a report afterwards that the Jets locker room was maybe not so happy that Zach Wilson was walking around not taking accountability when the punter and the special teams took accountability and the defense played lights out and held the Patriots to three points and Zach Wilson was that bad, but he doesn't. Well, you know what? He can't because he says he doesn't care about stats.
The exact quote that was said, sources inside the Jets losing locker room told SNY that Zach Wilson was walking around after the game, quote, like he isn't the problem, end in quote i would like to know what that walk looks

like i think i know what that walk looks like basically saying like your shit doesn't stick yeah is what they're getting at like yeah i would like i would like zach wilson after this game to wear whatever scarlet letter the team chooses from like just walk around your hand raised and don't say anything for the next day but like hey that one was on me guys yeah just say like hey my bad yeah all right so billy before before you talk i want to just i want to help you out okay because i actually and and you might not realize this i have been here because this the comparison i've been making is the jets this season feel like the 2018 chicago bears and i say that because the chicago bears in 2018 were an elite defense Jets team has an elite defense the the quarterback was in their second year second overall pick uh I looked back and it was actually through week 11 both teams had five games so far in the season with under 200 pass yards they both had given up about the same amount of points and it goes to the same problem of your team can be good and your quarterback's bad and having to separate the two because I was hurt very badly by that team because I was like, oh, it's going to be okay. Mitch is going to be okay.
When deep down I knew maybe not. So with that, go ahead.
This is one of the hardest. This was one of the worst Jets losses, I think, since the butt fumble, to be honest.
Just like it's pretty bad. And that's just because the game was so close the whole time in a low scoring game.
In my head, I was like, this is the game we can win. This is the game we can win.
We're just going to break it through with one run. We're going to get one touchdown drive, just something on the ground probably.
It's going to break open, and then we're going to manage the clock and get it down and hopefully win 10-3. But it's the coin.
It's the coin. We couldn't win this game.
The coin. I didn't see that coming.
The coin was 10-0 on picks going into week 11 and is now 11-0. The coin says that the Patriots were going to beat the Jets, so we're at the mercy of the coin.
The coin saw us almost winning the game, and the coin was like, boom, punt return. You never had a chance to win.
You were going up against something much more powerful than the wind. That's the coin.
The coin was forced to... I think you have to take into account it's windy as hell out there too, guys.
I had actually friends at the game, former college team. Were they at the game or were they 100 miles away from the game? You've had some sketchy weather reports.
No, I had these guys at the game. They were bundled up.
What did they say? Was it windy as hell? They said it's windy as Okay, so I heard we need to figure this out because it was either windy as fuck or windy as hell. In the Snapchat stories they posted, you can hear the wind.
Oh. Okay.
That sounds. Yeah.
That sounds. How many miles an hour did it sound like? I don't know.
Okay. Yeah, that's a lot.
That sounds fucking windy. That was about 15 to 18.
You could tell that it wasn't the day to throw the football. And the Jets' run game wasn't, you know.
Existent. Exactly.
Matt Jones did throw the football decent. I know.
What do you have, like 240 yards? Someone said very well. He threw 23 for 27, 246 yards.
Remember, Belichick deferred so he could choose which way they were going. And they were going with the win in the fourth quarter.
So the win would be against the Jets. And look, that's some of the genius shit that Belichick does to fuck with rookie quarterbacks.
You can actually see the trajectory of the ball. Okay.
We joke about Zach Wilson, not being a rookie quarterback, but calling him a rookie quarterback. You know that he's not a young quarterback.
Sorry. He didn't play his whole first year.
Listen, I don't blame you what you're doing right now because you definitely have the cognitive dissonance. You're lying to yourself.
You don't want to admit that Zach Wilson is the root of all your problems right now. No, no, no, no, no, no.
I think it might be Zach Wilson. It's probably Zach Wilson.
What about the accountability part? You know what makes me mad is now Billy's walking all around like Zach Wilson isn't the problem. Yeah, in the locker room, it's not happy about it.
Bro to bro. Bro to bro.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Are you going bro to bro already? No, no, I'm bro to bro and Zach Wilson.
23-year-olds in the workforce, you really sometimes, even when you think that if you didn't throw any interceptions and just played conservative all game, that would be happy with you. But you've got to take accountability.
So when you came in, you were like, he hasn't thrown any interceptions. He did try to throw a few interceptions that were literally off of guys' hands.
That was tipped on the line. The one to McCourty that he just threw at his chest and then McCourty dropped.
And I'm going to... It was tipped.
If you look at it, it was tipped. Billy, I'm going to – I'm going to be gracious towards you because I actually understand exactly what you're going through, and it sucks because the Jets have a really good roster.
Like their defense is awesome. And having to deal with the defense being awesome, running game being good, and then there's just one guy who's holding everything back it's the shittiest feeling in the world i would say the only the only plus side like my comparison to 2018 bears that bears defense was not like all young studs so you at least if if the jets are smart and they're like hey we got to pull the rip the rip the band-aid off now and try something different maybe maybe you can salvage everything, but it's bad, Billy.
Zach Wilson, he ranks in passer rating, he's 33rd. In completion percentage, he's 34th.
In pass TD to interception, he's 32nd. In pass TD to attempts percentage, he's 32nd.
He's the worst quarterback in the NFL right now. The thing is, ceiling is still there.
The fact Russell Wilson. Yeah.
The ceiling is still there. Is it? In switching the quarterback halfway through, be it we take a guy who's behind him right now or we go out and get someone, you're still going to have to go into the offense, get reps, and still have this warm-up period where if we're going to find someone who's going to play – Oh, yeah.
I mean, it's got to be – No, no, we're not saying that he's going to be taken out this year. No, no, no.
That's not what we're saying. We're saying next year.
Big Cat, let me ask you this. Do you think Joe Flacco wins this game? I think Mike White might win this game.
I think Joe Flacco wins this game. Yeah.
So I was going to be nice and say I'm not calling for Zach Wilson to be benched, I'd like to see Flacco out there.

The problem with Zach Wilson is he does – that report is very –

the fact that he sat up there and they're like,

do you think that you're the reason why he lost?

That defense balled out, held him to three points, and he's like, no.

Dude, if he played even C – D-plus game,

the Jets probably can win that game. They were in field goal range once.
They had no drives. And the Pats missed two field goals.
If the running game was there, it would have allowed him to get something else going. But him not turning the ball over, yes, there was the tip that went right into McCrory's hands.
But it's just more of, I think, him against Belichick right now in his stage of the career is the bigger road bump. So, for example, if you put Joe Flacco in, he'd probably perform better.
But next week, the Joe Flacco versus Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson hasn't been good in the other weeks.
Right, but the arm talent, I know this sounds crazy, but I really think his ceiling is Patrick Mahomes. Okay, yeah.
I know that sounds crazy. I know that sounds crazy.
I've been trying to. I got a bail.
I still think his ceiling. I got to be like, I don't know what my crazy friend said.
I don't know him. Can you bleep that out? I just, the ceiling is there.
Billy, the ceiling is the floor. This is, we've seen, like, basically, we still, no matter what we do, we have to play in the rest of the team.
The ceiling is the cellar. I agree with you, Bill.
And I agree with you. Like, this is the hard part.
And again, if you go back and listen to 2018 me, I was saying the same shit where I was like, I was trying to convince myself. It just sucks because you know that, he's the guy who's holding everything back and joe douglas and that team has put together a really good roster and that one piece is missing right now it's holding him back from winning games now i do i do agree that with a high draft pick like that you you can't pull the cord entirely after two years like that you need to give players time to develop some guys take longer than others to develop.
But right now, it's very abundantly clear that if he is going to play like that, then he should probably be like, yeah, I fucked that one up today. I know.
He needs to take accountability. Young people in the workforce, bro to bro.
Sometimes you press a button you're not supposed to, and then you be like, how could this possibly be my fault? Why is there a button like this? But you're not going to be like, look, I shouldn't have pressed the button. I shouldn't have pressed the button.
Those three and a half hours of footage from today. But also, in the end, all of Jet's Twitter is ripping him apart.
Everyone's ripping him apart. Rightfully so.
Yeah, he's going to probably be the starter next year, too. I'm just saying, unless something changes, he is the reason why you're losing these games.
And he's the reason why a defense that could take them deep in the playoffs is not going to go deep in the playoffs because – And the coin. And the coin.
The coin has us losing next week. Congratulations.
Oh, thank you. On your Bears.
Yeah. But then we go on a five-game win streak after that.
So huge. That's what we see – Okay, so sidebar, Big Cat.
Yeah. I actually think that Billy really believes in this coin.
Well, it's that's why he's saying that he actually thinks that they're going to go to the AFC Championship game because of the coins. He's like, Zach Wilson will prove that he's a playoff quarterback when he gets to the AFC Championship game.
Billy truly believes in the power of the coin. We're in store for a five-game win streak after this Bears game where Zach Wilson is going to show he is the guy.
So we're just going off of the coin's metrics, and it hasn't been wrong yet. What's up with Elijah Moore on that last kick return of the game? I think...
That, to me, looked like he was trying to lose on purpose. I don't want to agree with you, because we tried to get him the ball this game.
It didn't really work out. Well, you can't get him the ball with Zach Wilson.
Define tried. Belichick knows the Foxborough weather.
He's got a farmer's almanac that knows that shit. Now we're getting into DARPA shit with Phil, but he's creating weather machines.
When he missed Braxton Berrios, who was standing like five feet away from him, that was... Yeah, but you can see the ball.
I mean, all of the Patriots missed kicks. That was all Jones.
I think the bigger problem was that at times, Zach Wilson lost in the pocket and he gets dizzy and starts running backwards like he just did a dizzy bat race when he does a spin move. You've been one that's told us about this.
He doesn't run towards downfield. He doesn't run towards the opponent's end zone.
He doesn't keep his eyes downfield. He steps backwards.
What he should have done this game was in those situations, he should have been fuck it I'm going to run my I'm going to like be a workhorse and like be Justin Fields and just go get five yards in terms of athleticism but like go pick up the yards with your feet try to earn your team's like respect by putting your body on the line and being a gamer and just like like, try to get those yards. Not trying to be nice with it.
Just, like, go get that five yards. Go put your shoulder down and try to earn these guys' respect.
Yeah, he said he doesn't care about stats. That's the thing.
Like, Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett fucking puts his shoulder down and, like, get five yards.
He's, you know. He's not a gamer.
I think you're exactly right. Zach Wilson, you are too good looking to actually play like a pretty boy.
But he is playing like a pretty boy. So you got to fucking put your shoulders down.
It also feels like sometimes he's playing like he's still at BYU and they're playing like Utah State. Exactly.
It's like this is not going to work because everyone is significantly faster and heavier and stronger. So when you spin, the end of the spin is a dude who's 300 pounds jumping on your back, not the end of a spin is like, oh, you have 10 yards to walk around and then throw it deep.
That's the difference. I actually think that Billy's right.
The more good-looking a quarterback is, the more they're going to call you soft if, in fact, you exhibit any sort of softness. Like Justin Herbert got to the league.
Everybody was like, oh, soft Cali boy. But then he just started running people over and breaking his own rib.
And they're like, okay, we like this guy. Yeah.
Here's the good news, Billy. The Bears' defense is terrible.
The Bears, what are you shaking your head? Max just laughing. Nothing.
Nothing. What? The fumbles? I'm upset about the fumble.
Max is just laughing and having a great time. Oh, that.
Ain't no fun when the rabbits got the gun, huh? I thought you were laughing at what BFD was saying. Ain't no fun when the rabbits got the gun.
Let's go Chargers. Oh, man.
Hank, doesn't that stink to lose a bet and have someone smirk? Oh, it's disrespectful. It's fine.
Oh. I love you.
Sorry for interrupting. I love you, Max.
No, I mean, we've just been going in circles end of the day zach wilson is the problem i still think the jets are a very good team and they will probably win next week billy if zach wilson doesn't torch that bears defense like that will be a very big problem also i think hopefully there's no wind also he was so scared throwing interceptions after the last game that when he was looking downfield he was that's but that is like if, if that's an actual thing, then he's just never going to be the guy. But I think it's more of the whole, the Belichick effect.
I think it was too in his mind. The New York media is cruel.
Now don't blame Belichick. Just blame the coin.
That actually makes more sense than any other stuff that you're saying. Okay.
So Patriots are now, the Jets have just like – the AFC East is insane. Every team is good.
And the Patriots are now in third ahead of the Jets who fall to the last place spot. All right.
Let's do some more. Let's go to the next game, which actually is – there's a link between the Jets-Patriots game and the Eagles-Colts game.
Because the Eagles win 17-16. And it was the first time the Eagles have won trailing by 10 points or more in the fourth quarter.
Since the 2010 Deshaun Jackson walk-off punt return. Which was the first thing I thought of when the Patriots returned.
I was like, oh, Deshaun Jackson, Meadowlands. So Eagles survive what looked like a game that they were going to lose because they played sloppy.
The Colts came out, kind of punched him in the mouth. And Jeff Saturday, Jeff Saturday is our NFL coach.
Oh, there was just they kept on showing clips of him doing pushups and running around the stadium and all that stuff. But the Eagles survive, and it feels like one of those gritty wins that you need

if you're going to continue marching forward if you're the Eagles.

Yeah, I mean, the Colts continued to do what I think Saturday's going to have them do,

which is just be cover machines.

Yeah.

And they played physically.

And I read that going into this game that Saturday's emphasis this week

was just doing one-on-one drills and just making everybody tougher. Because we need to simplify everything.
Football's a simple game. We make it complicated sometimes.
So he's just having them just work out. Just get stronger and then everybody will be better at their job.
And so I got fucked up going to this game because it was a roof bet. It was a roof bet.
And Jim Irsay pulled the biggest okie doke of all okie dokes. I felt targeted by it, actually.
He tweeted out that the roof was going to be open on Sunday. And Jeff Saturday had had the boys training outside in the snow.
And then like five minutes later, he put a psych on me and said, no, we're closing the roof. It was brutal.
I can't help but think that had something to do with the loss loss today but no i i actually do think that the colts are going to continue to be like super physical uh maybe not like the most electric team probably won't put up the most points but probably won't they're not going to like roll over for anybody like they were before first opening drive td the colts have had since christmas of 2021 so that's i mean right there they're they're showing competency that they haven't shown this entire season. And it does feel like they have, like, they're just playing a little bit harder, more disciplined.
They still have huge flaws. Their offense, like, after that opening drive, they basically did nothing.
The longest drive they had was 34 yards after that. Matt Ryan still looks like a giant target back there.
Yeah, right. And Jonathan Taylor, I mean, like, the Eagles defense actually deserves a lot of credit because they got gashed on Monday Night Football against the Commanders.
They got gashed in the opening drive. And then their run defense kind of stepped up, like, you know, nutted up and played really good for the rest of the game.
And outside of the fumbles that they've had and, like, the costly penalties, like penalties like you know they were able to right the ship in the second half come back when jalen hurts come back you know that makes the big plays with his feet i don't know i feel like this is one of those games that like it's a colts or sorry if the eagles had lost i've been like uh-oh there's something wrong and now i'm looking at it which is stupid because it's all reactionary being like that's just a hard-nosed win that you got to learn how to win those type of games if you're going to have you know Super Bowl aspirations it definitely makes you feel better if you're an Eagles fan after that game but still I think there's some serious there's some issues I mean the fumbles like they had another one where I mean AJ Brown it got punched out but still like the costly turnovers the costly penalties like it feels well their offense just also doesn't look as dynamic as it was. Yeah, they just run the ball.
Yeah, it looks a little like they're playing with cement shoes on. I didn't realize that Sirianni was so emotionally attached to Frank Reich.
Oh, yeah. And that this had become a personal revenge game for him.
I knew that they were boys, but I didn't realize after the game, he was screaming at Colts fans, being like, that's for firing my boy. And then at his press conference, he said, you don't want to know what I think, if he should be here or not.
You guys can probably imagine what I really think. It was sweet to come here, especially with what happened in this organization the last couple weeks, and get a win.
I'm emotional because I love Frank Reich. He's one of the best damn football coaches I've ever been around.
I was hoping he and I could coach against each other in this game. So he's really pissed off about it.
It was actually, in fact, personal for Nick Sirianni. I think Nick Sirianni is just a very emotionally available guy.
He is. He wears his heart on his sleeve.
It feels like he's always in the middle of having a temper tantrum slash cry fest.

Yeah.

It's just always there.

It's kind of like when Max roots for the Eagles,

and he actually does look like he's going to cry because he's so excited.

Right, and he's saying said, and he's just screaming shit.

Max, how do you feel about this win?

This was a gutsy win.

I feel good.

It was obviously a rollercoaster of emotions.

After the first drive, I was like, this run defense is done. There's no way we're going to be able to stop anybody.
We got, we have Aaron Jones coming up and then Derek Henry right after. And I was like, we're going to lose every single one of these games because we can't stop a single person on the run.
And then out of nowhere, we just flipped the script and defense tightened up and everything looked good on the defensive side of the ball. And the offense went stale but at the end of the day it was nice to see like you have the drive to win the game and sirianni put the ball in jalen hurts every big play was like hurts you're gonna go get these yards you're gonna go get these yards and it's nice to see your quarterback be put in those situations and like be out man other guy.
Are you a little worried about Nick Sirianni trying to get them off sides? No one has ever been bailed out harder. Ever.
So for people who didn't watch the game, there was a minute and I think 40 seconds left. Or no, it was actually the two-minute warning.
It was right after the two-minute warning. So there was two minutes left.
The Eagles had two timeouts, and it was fourth and two on the eight-yard line. And so you're thinking to yourself, they've got to obviously convert this.
But if they don't, they still will have, I don't know, like 30 seconds left or whatever it may be. And Nick Sirianni has the guys go to the line, look like they're about to kneel down or do a quarterback dive.
But it was like from the two and a half, they needed two and a half yards. Right, And the way they were set up was actually more in the victory formation.
They had like two guys behind them that were facing Jalen Hurts. Right.
So then they call a timeout. So now they have one timeout.
So basically, if they don't get the fourth and two, the game is over. And it's a Jalen Hurts sneak where it looked like he was stopped and then he gets it.
They win the game. But, yeah, that would have been a situation where Nick Sirianni would have had some tough questions.
He also had a drive, which I was baffled by, where they got the ball on, I don't know, their own 15. And he just ran the ball up the middle three times and punted.
It was like in the third quarter. And it feels like something about the play calling, like what's going on? It was one of the – you screamed at me from the cave about that.
Yeah, I made you come in. About the drive.
I made you come in because I was going to be mad. But it was one of those – it was like we have eight different – Put the camera on yourself, Max.
We have eight different TVs on, and it was one of those things where it was – we got the ball back. I was like, all right, let's go on a drive.
I look over at another TV for a second. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? We're punting.
And then you were just like, they just ran three times right into the middle. I was pissed.
And I needed you to sit next to me so I could blame you. And guess what? I didn't even bet on the Eagles in that game.
This is where the Super Bowl future actually pays off that I feel invested game by game being like the one seed's on the line. So you're off the hook.
But it was a problem. On those play calls, it wasn't so much about the play call itself, but I think they were all read options.
I think that Hurts was misreading the read option a lot today, which is, I don't know if it was something different that the Colts were doing that they weren't expecting for, but he was consistently making the wrong decision on whether to keep it or whether to hand it off. Yeah.
It just brought offense to a standstill luckily I think I think in Dominick and Sue might work out I think I live all Joseph I didn't realize they got to I think in Dominick and Sue might still be a fucking monster and they still get Jordan Davis back when when Sue tackles somebody it looks like a crime it looks violent he tackles people in ways that you don't necessarily see coming or other people do. It looks like a small car crash every time it happens.
Yes. Yeah, it was weird seeing him out there.
It's like, oh, shit. Yeah, he is back.
Was he wearing 74? 74. It looks big.
That's an offensive line. That's a bad number.
Yeah, it's a bad number, but it makes him look big, though, like chunky boy. All right, so last thing I had about this game,

I think it should just be a rule in the world that if you cry,

basically cry on TV, you can't just pretend it didn't happen

and reverse your ways.

I'm talking about Bill Cowher.

Bill Cowher said today, I think it was in the pregame and at halftime,

he said you can see the immediate impact of Jeff Saturday on this Colts team. Bill Cowher, you cried last week, dude.
You cried. You cried in front of us.
It's like the fucking, it's like the Mark Brunel. Like Mark Brunel, I remember when you cried.
Like you can't cry on national television and then just be like, no, that wasn't me. I didn't cry last week.
Yeah, he did cry and I believe he said it's a disgrace to the coaching profession. He

listed guys that were on that staff.

He listed Gus Bradley. I don't know

if Bill Cowher has ever watched

the NFL. Yeah.
Gus Bradley had

a pretty good shot at being a head coach. I think he

had four years. I think he averaged

like three wins a season. I think

we have a pretty good idea what Gus Bradley can do.

And do you list John Fox? He listed John Fox.

Who's been in the NFL for 40

years and he's had more

than enough chances. Got a good idea.
I think

I'm going to be... we have a pretty good idea what Gus Bradley can do.
Did he list John Fox? He listed John Fox. Who's been in the NFL for 40 years, and he's had more than enough chances.
Got a good idea. I think Bill Cowher just got mad because his buddies didn't get a job.
Right, and he I know he didn't actually, there weren't actual tears, but he cried. Because you could see, you could hear in his voice, and they did the thing that I love whenever we get serious tone on these pregame shows, because it basically was most of these pregame shows, it's like you say something for 30 seconds.
You say something for 30 seconds. Terry Bradshaw laughs, you know, kick to Carissa, right? This was like two and a half minutes of Bill Cower just getting the camera and nothing else.
Like everyone was sitting there doing their hmm. Yeah.
Good point. good point, coach, good point, coach.
You cried. That's a cry speech.
And then you pretended it didn't happen. When it goes to the solo shot on you, and you're talking to the camera.
Yes, yes. Because sometimes guys get little monologues where they get to talk about something that's important to them, but they always do the weird thing where they reach out and they touch the person's arm in the middle of it.
They're like, listen, I think the Jets got a great defense now this year, but they got to figure out an offense, and then they reach out and they like touch each other they touch the person's arm in the middle of it they're like listen I think the Jets got a great defense now this year but they got to figure out an offense and then they reach out and touch each other back this was just like Bill Cowher he didn't cry but his chin started to quiver a little yeah no it was again it was a cry it was a I don't even think Bill Cowher can produce tears actually no he is a cry coach he definitely is a cry coach oop Chargers just scored much time on the clock for too much time on the clock for Patrick Mahomes. Too much time on the clock for Patrick Mahomes.
Hang on, I have to tweet that. But, yeah, it was, I just was shocked.
Way too much time. I was shocked that Bill Cowher thought he could get away with just saying, you can see the impact that Jeff said.
You made a take. Just own it.
That's fine. You were wrong.
You cried. You can't take those tears back.
Well, I actually think that Jim Irsay is a secret genius for hiring Jeff Saturday, because turns out Jim Ursa was right that he doesn't have all the baggage that comes along with being an NFL head coach where you're afraid of stuff. So it's like, yeah, just hire more.
I actually bet that if you had a competent offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator, you could just hire straight up a raw guy that didn't necessarily have any experience coaching, but was like the ultimate motivator. Dude, Gary Vee.
Imagine Gary Vee as an NFL head coach. The quarterback would be pretending they'd kill themselves every morning.
The quarterback would be playing like it was literally their last chance to do anything. Kill your whole family every morning when you're in the shower.
I think Gary Vee would be a competent head coach if he had a good offensive staff around him. It is true, though, that there is something to be said that Jeff Saturday does not care.
He obviously cares that he wants to win, but it's not like his entire profession, his entire what he's worked for is this moment, and if he fails, it's like, oh, my God, what am I going to do? He's just going to go back to TV. So he's fine.
He's easy. But, yeah, the Colts are officially one of the friskiest teams in the end.
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Okay, Bills 31, Browns 23 in Detroit. The Thunder Snow.
We got to see all the videos. It was like extracting Marines from a hostile area when we got to see all these videos of Bills players finding a way out of Buffalo.
I actually think that this game ball goes to Bills fans. Yes.
Because we had Bills fans that would just show up. I guess they just know where the Bills live in their neighborhood.
Well, I think it's just right down the street yeah yeah everybody lives like probably in the same neighborhood so they showed up dug them out of their own driveways and it was no joke it was probably like i don't know four or five six feet of snow and shout out to the weather people out there the meteorologists got it right when i saw six feet of snow i was like this is going to be like maybe six inches right like trust me i know a lot of times when people say it's going to be six feet, it's quite a bit under six feet. Right.
But in this case, it was actually accurately predicted by the weather people. Six feet of snow and part of Buffalo.
And then the north side of town, I think, got like nothing. Yeah, no, that's how it works in Buffalo.
You can basically live in a different place where half the team just didn't have to deal with anything. The half had to deal um who was it uh the offensive lineman that the the video that went viral of him opening up the garage door and his dog just having to take a piss and being like nowhere to go just absolutely nowhere to go it was fucking insane so yeah the bills got there they stupid on dock deon dawkins stupid us we should have had like a little bit of foresight and i know this is hindsight is 2020 but long week for the bills getting there was very difficult all these pressures like you have to worry about your family being snowed in all these things and they came out flat like they look like shit for the first quarter and the and the browns do what the browns do in the first quarter they always have aed drive where you're like, wow, the Browns look good today.
And then the Bills basically, so the first quarter they went 15 yards for three points. The next three quarters they went 342 yards for 28 points.
So the Bills, like there was a moment in time on Sunday where I was like, are the Bills and Eagles both bad? And then they both kind of righted the ship, and the Bills especially, so their offense looked great in that last drive in the first half, and it was like, yeah, they're back. So bad news for the AFC because the Bills figured out how to run the football.
Yeah. And so that's a nice little wrinkle that they don't have to depend on Josh Allen to be like a superhero and basically like RoboCop and run people over all the time, they can now actually just hand the ball off and control the clock that way, which their defense has got to be pretty excited about.
Yes. Not having to be out on the field all the time.
Big time. And it just gives them a different look.
And so defenses can't do the thing that they've been doing against Josh Allen, which is trying to take it away. Sometimes it works.
Sometimes it doesn't if he doesn't run you over. But this is a big win, I think, for the Bills because it was a weird week for them.
Yeah, very weird. It was a really strange week.
I think it just cements that they're – I'm not pressing the panic button. No, I mean – We're getting close to talking about the panic button for the Bills, but last week was kind of a fluky loss at the very end, and this week it just kind of proved that the Bills are – they're legit, and also credit to Stefanski for actually just running the football even when they're getting their ass kicked yeah later oh yeah and the bills that was the other part the bills ran the ball and they stopped the run yeah like they they they uh Nick Chubb had had 14 carries for 19 yards yep that's pretty hard to do against one of the best running backs in the NFL and yeah the the bills I do I agree I wasn't I don't think the panic button was ready.
If they had lost this game, it definitely would have been because that would have been three in a row and everything looks bad. Now they have a short week.
I assume they should just stay in Detroit. I don't know if they are.
Well, Jared is letting his house out. Right.
We've linked that up. And so now they have another chance against a Lions team that's starting to look decent.
If you can win the Sunday-Thursday combo, it feels like you've won four games in a row. Because you win games, and especially Thursday at noon, if they can beat the Lions on Thanksgiving Day, they'll have won two games in what feels like two days yeah then you get the mini buy after that yeah and you're good to go uh yeah the bills i still think the bills are the team to beat in the afc right now yeah well the chiefs patrick mahomes is just he's stupid and they fumbled dumb he's stupid and just how good he that throw he made tonight where the guy was completely covered and he basically turned around and the ball was just in his hands.
He just makes throws that are absolutely insane. This game is pretty good.
Should we talk about this game? One last thing with the Bills-Browns as we wait for the Chiefs-Chargers to come back on. Sports Illustrated tweeting, Amari Cooper is him after he scored the first touchdown of the game.
That's it. It's over.
I know you had a point in like the week three when someone did something, but like calling Amari Cooper him for scoring in the first five minutes of the Bills-Browns game in week 11 for a Browns team that has three wins, that's it. No more.
Anyone can be him. No more.
Even Amari Cooper. Yeah.
For me, it was that it was during the Eagles Vikings game, the Monday night football game. And it was like, who is more him? Stefan Diggs or Jalen Hurts? When I heard somebody say, oh, and that's the game.
Chiefs just scored a touchdown. Too much time for Justin Herbert.
This is Patrick Mahomes is so fucking ridiculous. I'm mad that Kansas City Chiefs fans get Patrick Mahomes and I don't.
It's not fair. It's not.
It's actually not fair. Every team should get Patrick Mahomes to play for them.
Could you imagine going into every Sunday and being like, even if we suck, Mahomes will figure it out.

That's what they get to do every Sunday.

The Chiefs fumble the ball with two and a half or four minutes left.

The Chargers go down, score, take the lead.

There's a minute and a half left, and it wasn't even a question.

It wasn't even a question.

I bet you if you put Patrick Mahomes as the quarterback for every team that was losing at the start of the fourth quarter,

those teams would end up winning like 80% of the time.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

It's not fair.

It's not fair Chiefs fans get to root for him for this long and like how good he is.

That's all I got about it.

No, I mean, I'm upset.

I'm very upset with him.

Anything else from this game while we talk about it? I mean, the Chargers did look good. Justin Herbert did look awesome, but it's like the most typical Chargers game of all time.
Yeah, Kelsey's a beast. Kadarius Toney out in the second half with, I think, a hamstring injury.
Basically, Kadarius Toney is out in the second half with being Kadarius Toney. Correct.
But this is the perfect Chargers game where you even had Mike Williams and Keenan Allen come back. Mike Williams then went out with an injury.
They looked great coming out of the game. Like, oh, shit, the Chargers are going to beat the Chiefs.
I feel like we've watched this Chargers game a hundred times. Justin Herbert makes a few wow throws.
You get tantalized by how good the Chargers could be yes yes you come out of the game even if they lose yeah like the chargers are good the charger i believe in this chargers team brandon staley i'm surprised he didn't try to do this on that last drive well there are three timeouts there should say the chargers have three timeouts with 31 seconds left on that last drive dicker the kicker and they have dicker the kicker on that last drive i would i would think brandon staley would be the guy that would do uh like a a time wasting thing and take it down to like the last three seconds of the game and then give his guys a shot to just like run the ball into the end zone to win the game so there's actually not any time on the clock right for patrick mahomes like you're basically playing against two people at that point, Patrick Mahomes and also the clock. And so Staley, he needs to figure out, because it does feel like this happens to the Chargers all the time.
All the time. All the time.
And this will probably, like, yep, the sack. So there goes one timeout.
I bet you they're going to get, like, one big throw and maybe even a fumble. Like a big throw where the guy's just running down the sideline and looks like he's going to win the game and he just fumbles.
It's like, oh, Chargers could have won that game. They're the most frustrating team ever.
Yeah. They might be.
Well, because they always have the heavy burden of expectations on them. And they also have a reasonably fun team.
They have guys that are fun to watch. Austin Eckler's fun to watch.
Bosa's fun to watch. They just...
Derwin James, when he's playing, fun to watch. Justin Herbert throwing lasers.
And it just never materializes into wins. Yeah, Keenan Allen, I think, is the most underrated wide receiver in the NFL.
And when anyone says, oh man, if the Chargers had gotten into the playoffs, watch out for them. No, not watch out for them.
They would have gotten into the playoffs and lost by three in a game they were winning. That's how every Chargers game goes.
Herbert? Oh, that should have... Interception? And that's game over.
Okay. The Chiefs win.
Chiefs are the best team in the NFL. I'm confident in saying that.
Anyone want to say anything to the contrary? I still like the Bills. The Bills are just as...
They're like one little notch in terms of how they're playing right this second. Because obviously the Bills went to Kansas City and beat them.
But... Fact.
I just feel like the Chiefs have had... I don't know.
They're just so fucking good. Mahomes is so goddamn good.
He's so consistently good. I need the Bills to host the AFC Championship game.
That's what I need.

I think that's where I land.

If peak Josh Allen doing his Josh Allen stuff can beat Patrick Mahomes.

In Buffalo with that crowd.

But if it's a little less than peak, Patrick Mahomes is so consistently great

that it's like Chiefs no matter what.

Okay.

Anything from that game, Hank?

You're not happy.

I was shocked when you told me that you didn't take the dog.

It wouldn't have mattered.

Yeah.

Well, the dog covered.

I would have.

Yeah, but I don't have to do that.

Oh, you do Moneyline.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, spreads don't matter.

No.

Yeah.

Nor does weather.

Yeah, nor does weather.

Okay, so anything else?

Bills, Browns.

No, the Bills are back.

The Browns suck.

They're just waiting for Deshaun Watson. It's going to be really awkward when he comes to.
So we got, what, one more week? Yeah. One more week and he's back.
It's going to be very awkward for everybody. It's going to be – are we just going to pretend like everything is cool? I think so.
Okay. I think that's – As long as we're all on the same page about it.
I think that's just what – I think that's what we've all just – yeah. Yeah, I'm just going to be like, okay.
I don't really know what.

This pervert.

Yeah, we're going to make fun of him.

Yeah.

And we're going to remind people he's a pervert.

But, yeah, I don't know.

I'm not going to stop watching the NFL,

so this is kind of a moral crisis we're dealing with here.

If we really want to dig deep down,

I don't think anything will get us to stop watching the NFL.

No, you could put, if Putin was a quarterback, I would tune in on Sunday.

He would put on numbies.

He would, yeah.

He'd be afraid to tackle him.

Air raid.

I mean, have you seen him on the rink?

Yeah.

He's a beast.

Yeah.

But yeah, I think that's kind of why Roger Goodell gets to do whatever he wants.

Because he knows idiots like us are like, we could talk a game.

Dude.

We're going to watch the game. They could have Deshaun Watson play a game in Sweden at 7 o'clock in the morning.
And I'm DVRing it. Oh, shit.
I'm watching the All-22 after it's up there. Yeah, first game in Sweden.
I wonder what the Sweden national anthem is going to look like. It would be amazing.
The pageantry would be incredible. Yeah, see, we were talking about before the show, your fandom is going to be tested this week because you have the 3 a.m thursday game that's true in cutter yeah oh yeah the whole like middle east time that's something i'm not even prepared to wrap my brain around you should just stay on our time i i might actually that's kind of what i did when i was in hong kong yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be a mental battle for me for sure i think my plan is i just get up in the middle of the night, I go to take a piss, and I check the score, and then I fall back asleep.
That's the plan right there. Yeah, that's good.
That actually sounds like a perfect plan. Yeah.
Commanders, Texans. Commanders, 23, Texans, 10, PFT.
Taylor Heineke is good, and the Commanders, I think they're going to make the playoffs. They could.
It's tough to say because we're playing as the Texans. Nah, but I think they're going to make the playoffs.
I want to hear what you have to say about the game, but I'll give you the path. Yeah, so I know that we have a path for sure because we have to beat the Giants.
If you beat the Giants, the last... We have to beat the Falcons.
We have to beat the Giants. If either the Giants sweep the Commanders or the Commanders sweep the Giants, the the winner of those two games is gonna go yeah that's that's pretty much how it's gonna shake out yeah so I did not realize this but this is the first time under Ron Rivera that the commanders have had a winning record like after week two whoa so that's kind of crazy even when we made the playoffs we were like six and nine then we were I think we were like 5-9, 6-9, then 7-9.

Remember that game against the Eagles to end the season?

Yes.

Where they put in Nate Sudfeld.

So we've never had a winning record under him before.

That's crazy.

So this is kind of foreign territory.

Taylor Heineke continues to.

I think now he actually might have the best record of any starting quarterback

on the commanders in their history under Dan Snyder besides Alex Smith. I think he's now surpassed Kirk Cousins.
So he looks good. He does everything right.
I think that he's what this team needs because obviously whatever it was that Carson Wentz was bringing to the table from an emotional standpoint wasn't really working. But the way that Heineke plays, I think he's the rare guy that people do play better around him.
Yeah. Like if Zach Wilson had like a tenth of the dog that Taylor Heineke had in him, then the Jets would be in a much, much better place right now.
And we get Chase Young back next week. Yes.
Which I'm excited about, but I'm also a little apprehensive about because their defensive line is kicking ass right now, and we're doing it without Chase Young. Just bring him in for third down.
And also Chase Young, he just looks awesome on the sidelines as the cheerleader. Yeah.
He finds his way into every group on the sidelines, always hyping everybody up. He's always got a cool hat on.
He seems like a good teammate to have a full-time cheerleader on the sidelines, but he's also a pretty good football player, so I'm get him back out there but I do think it's like I think it's like 60-40 that we make the playoffs now I in my own brain I six and five I did a little calculus in my head if you even split the Giants win against the Falcons win against the Giants loss against the Giants loss against the 49ers win against theboys. You'd be 9-8.
I think 9-8 is going to probably get that seventh spot. Unless the Seahawks and the 49ers get to 9-10 wins, I think 9-8 would get you.
And then if you beat the Giants, if you could beat the Giants, who are fading, and we'll talk about them next, you would almost assuredly get in the playoffs. If you go 2-0 against the Giants it's kind of a weird position to be in I don't really know I don't know how to handle myself and crazy the the team starting to like come together and play exciting football right as Dan Snyder is stepping away from the I don't think that's a coincidence at all I think I think that it kind of like lifted a little bit of a weight like it did for me as a fan.
I'll tell you straight up. But also like for the team I actually think that it does make a difference.
I think it's like okay we don't have to deal with this massive distraction all the time in the future. Let's just worry about playing football.
I just dawned on me that there is not I wouldn't say a good chance but there's a chance that in this room I'm the only one who doesn't make the playoffs. I just realized that.
Oh, man. That would suck.
I would like someone to join me. That would be.
In not making the playoffs. That would be awful.
The Jets. You're pointing to the Jets.
All right. As long as someone, so that I'm not the guy, is like everyone else got their fucking big playoff game, and I'm just sitting there like, well, this fucking sucks.
I'm starting to run into an existential crisis with a running back position because I do love Brian Robinson and the story that he's had this year. But also Antonio Gibson just seems like a much more dynamic running back at times.
Like Brian Robinson is great when he's just running into people's faces. That's pretty cool.
But Antonio Gibson, he can get 12, 13 yards at a clip. But on the the other hand it's like i don't want to root against the guy that got shot right you know right so i'm juggling that in my mind here's how you gotta here's how you gotta do it in your mind brian robinson uh softens up the defense yeah because he just mashes them yeah and then antonio gibson gets easier it's uh the old thunder and lightning yes yes yeah i like that or eat and run that was the lindale white and chris johnson yeah best defensive or best uh running back backfield nickname of all time brian robinson is basically loosening up the jar yeah antonio gibson to open it up and be like look that was easy smash and dash yeah right it's it's pretty good it works yeah okay no that's good feel better about that now.
There's a place for both these guys. Yeah, there is.

And the Texans just suck.

Davis Mills, oh my God.

Jets would not be in the playoffs as of right now.

If the season ended now, Cincinnati would be seven.

New England, six.

Well, the Commanders wouldn't be in right now either.

Right.

I'm just saying, like, there's a world where enough things can happen where, like, all

your teams are very much alive.

And, you know, obviously Max and Jake are more than alive. Max is definitely going to make the playoffs.
Jake, you're definitely going to make it. You two.
I'm not so sure about you two. Hank and Billy.
You two. You two.
I don't know what's going to happen with y'all, but your teams they could go either way. Coin says we make it.
That that's right i forgot about the coin uh so all this talk about the playoffs is making me terrified as a commanders fan so um let's just say i'm optimistic right now left hand is firmly raised and uh i'm just happy to be here yeah i'm happy to be here right now having a winning record and taylor heineke and people are asking questions about like taylor is he the guy for the rest of the season rivera said yes he's which makes he's the guy it makes complete sense and it makes also like a world of difference like knowing that you don't have to like that credit to ron rivera you don't have to play this stupid game yeah like oh carson wentz he is technically like you know the first round draft pick and gets paid a lot of money we got to play him. Taylor Heineke's team.
Yeah, they had to have a word with Heineke because he got caught drinking beer on the airplane

on the way back last week, and so I think they fined him.

I think guys should be allowed to drink beer on the airplane.

Titans offensive coordinator.

Okay, I think you should be allowed to drink beer on the airplane

as long as you promise not to drive after.

Drive after.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Okay, we're all adults here, right? You're going to make me fly sober after I just played an NFL game and won. Yeah.
That's a me coordinator guy. DUI for people who don't know after the win against the Packers.
Yeah. But I think that's, that's cruel and unusual punishment.
If you just won a Monday night football game, you should be allowed to have a six pack of beer. Yeah.
We're all adults, right? This is America. I thought this was America.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's true. This is America.
I don't. This has nothing to do with anything but the can't lose parlay cash for the fourth straight week.
Hank. Congratulations.
How's the hungry dog? No one on three. I was choosing.
Shit. I was going to take one today.
I chose the hungry dog. Oh, I in that split second.
Damn. Let me stop being a bitch and take both.
Wow. I responsibly take one parlay.
Okay. Nice.
Yeah. Texans.
Oh, last thing I wanted to say about the commanders. Your karma is going to come for you.
The fuck is that supposed to mean? You can't-lose parlays, and then all of a sudden... I've won four in a row.
If you had won can't-lose parlays, you'd be bringing this up. I would love to go to last year, when Hank was like, I'm the best gambler in the world.
I didn't say that. Hungry dog, cashed again.
You were, oh yeah, you were. You were just jealous.
No, no, I watched you. Listen, if I can't...
I didn't say Big Cat has the Can't Lose Parlay one. Yeah, you did.
Because I know it wouldn't have. Oh, yeah, you always did.
But I didn't rub it in your face. I didn't say Big Cat was the last time the Can't Lose Parlay won.
It's just funny how you win like two in a row and all of a sudden. Four.
Four. All of a sudden.
Up on the ear. The chirp birds start counting.
Up on the ear. Yeah, I just need to win one Hungry Dog Parlay and I'll be up on the ear.
That's how it works. We're 11 weeks in, buddy.
Yeah. We're 11 weeks in buddy yeah we're 11 weeks 1500 coming next week hey can you imagine if you had taken the Broncos Raiders game to end in a tie at regulation I would have lost because he's he went over three on the other ones oh because your other ones didn't hit well no but that also oh really that was a winner that was a winner is there yeah is there any way that you could be more like us? I bet the Hungry Dog every week.
And we're due. Okay.
Plus 1500. You keep saying that.
I think you've changed, Hank. I think your methodology's changed.
No, I mean, next week we'll be in Hoboken, so I feel much better about it. Oh, okay, yeah.
That will change everything. Oh, what did I say? The say the commanders this was actually like a classic letdown spot yeah where the texans are dog shit but the commanders just beat the last undefeated team in the nfl on monday night football huge win then they have to go back on the road to houston short rest i like you get credit in my mind for for not falling for those flat spots there are certain things that you have to check off to be able to consider yourself a good team.
One would be like a statement win, which is what we had last week. And then the next one is blowing out a team that you're supposed to blow out.
And we just blew the Texans. We just went down there, and we went down, and we blew them.
And so that's what we had to do, check that one off the list list i think the next one is win a scrappy divisional game so that would be the giants game yep and again now i don't know what i can talk myself into for the falcons game this week but that's the next one on the list that i i feel like to take that step to becoming an actual good team you have to do yes i like that that's actually a good, like, follow these rules here.

It's a model, yeah. It's considered good.
Okay, next up, Lions-Giants. Lions 31, Giants 18.
I'd like to apologize to Dan Campbell. I wasn't calling for his job, but I was saying his job might be in jeopardy.
I don't think that's the case anymore. Three in a row, first time since 2017.
He follows up his first road victory as a head coach by winning his next road game the next week. And the Lions, they're back to like the scrappy Lions.
They've won three in a row. They have a huge game against the Bills.
Like, just think about this for a second. If the Lions somehow beat the Bills on Thanksgiving Day, that's going to be, holy shit shit what's up with this lion's team like this lion's team might be they could they could somehow get into the playoffs what's the nfc the bottom of the nfc is that is that bad what's the favorable schedule too yeah what's the lions recent record on thanksgiving how you how used to lions fans like are they are they used to winning on thanksgiving i want to say they beat the Bears a couple years ago.
I feel like the Bears played them so many times the last five years. Can you look it up? I would just like to know what it's like being a Lions fan and what your Thanksgiving – I want to see Chase Daniel beat them, though.
What that entire setup is like for you guys, your traditions on Thanksgiving. Do you eat before you watch the game? Do you get up early and get drunk before and then eat afterwards do

you have a big breakfast a thanksgiving breakfast how do you the whole thanksgiving situation at troy it's always i think they just watch it with the game i think they eat thanksgiving dinner with the game on as they're watching yeah okay they take a nap in the second half it was their first three game winning streak since 2017 yep that the lions are on right now they're definitely back to being frisky and it was a double win today because the rams continue to lose so their draft pick keeps increasing yeah so that the draft pick that they got in exchange for uh it was the stafford jared golf trade yep so as stafford continues to not play it turns out it actually helps the Lions continue to improve their position

for the future.

Jamal Williams has been a beast recently.

Three touchdowns today, 64 yards.

It was the lowest yardage for any three-touchdown player this season.

That's kind of cool.

It's a cool stat.

It actually reminded me of that Jerome Bettis game, and I looked it up, and I forgot how

crazy his stat line was.

Was it like four yards?

Jerome Bettis had five attempts for three touchdowns and one yard. Oh, yeah, that's right.
In 2004. That's incredible.
Which is, I think, the best stat line of any player. I loved playing Madden with the bus.
Yeah. And just running over people.
Yep. What do you got, Jake? I know we lost once to them.
2016 was our last one. That was a four-game winning streak, 13-16.
Who'd they beat? The Bears? The Vikings. Oh, did they not beat? They beat the Bears in 14.
14, that's right. And then we beat them, what, 18? No.
Yes, 19. 19.
Okay. Because I just wonder if the city of Detroit has sadness from a Lions loss baked into their Thanksgivings.
There are kids that probably grow up in Detroit that hate Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Because they're like, I have to watch the Lions lose every year. Although I think that's just same old Lions.
Just Sundays in general? It just becomes, it's almost actually probably better because then you have Sunday off. No, but it kind of ruins Thanksgiving for everybody.
No, but I'm saying the Lions have been so, and I don't want to make this about, because it is big that they won and they look like they're actually building something. But the Lions are so bad and have been so bad that I don't think losses can affect Lions fans the same way they affect other fan bases anymore.
It's almost like you're just arresting this is what it is. I just think that it would be like adding a tradition to Thanksgiving where somebody would just come over to your house and kick you in the balls.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, it's just, but it, that you get kicked in the balls every Sunday anyway. Yeah.
So it was just another day. Like the last time they won a playoff game was what, 1991? Yeah.
So I just, I think it's another day at the getting kicked in the balls factory. Yeah.
I think they're almost like, and I don't want to speak for all Lions fans, but I bet there's like a general like, well, we just kind of expect that this is going to happen. We want them to be good, but we also, you can't get your hopes up every single year.
After a certain amount of years, it's just like, this is just, this is what it is. And now, they're in a place where, again, they could get their hopes up because they've won three in a row and they're playing the Bills, and if they win this game, who the fuck knows? The Lions would be like, holy shit.
What are they putting together here? I was impressed by them because it wasn't really even close. Their defense got Daniel Jones to turn the ball over, which that's more on Daniel Jones, but Aiden Hutchinson looks awesome.
You want to see those type of games. You've got back-to-back weeks with interceptions where it's like, oh yeah, we made the right choice.
He's got as many interceptions as Sauce Gardner. Wow.
Fascinating. Wow, that is fascinating.
Defensive player of the rookie of the year? Aiden Hutchinson is, yeah, you have a lot of things that you can be happy about if you're a Lions fan. The defense is probably the big one because...
It's turned around since the bye week. It's turned completely around, and they were awesome against the run today.
and we were talking about Saquon and we're like oh Saquon's got at the time it was like seven attempts for nine yards and the the strategy with Saquon is you just keep feeding him if you're the Giants and eventually he's going to break one and that never happened today right they just they they kept them bottled up today they did a great job against Daniel Jones so yeah the is going to be – your offense is fine. The Lions have a good offense.
But if the defense can even start to play consistently mediocre, maybe even a little bit better than mediocre, yeah, the Lions could be – they are a fun team, but they could be actually good. And they actually – so I think their bye week was after the Patriots game where they lost 29-0, and then they played the Cowboys, which remember watching that game, it was a one score game in the fourth quarter.
Yep. They played the dolphins to a four point game, which everyone gives up points to the dolphins shut down the Packers.
The bears was a shootout when that game, and then they shut down the giants. So yeah, they're, they've, it feels like they've turned a corner a little bit and Daniel Jones for the giant side of it.
this does feel like the air coming out of the balloon a little bit for the Giants. Because even last week when they beat the Texans, watching that game, it was like the Texans are losing this game.
The Giants aren't winning this game. Like in the fact that the Texans just kept on getting closer than throwing picks or not converting for scores.
And now the reverse of what the Lions have have the Lions have basically a Thanksgiving Day game that could change like everything for the positive the Giants have a Thanksgiving Day that could change everything for the negative because they have to go to Dallas and if they get killed in that game now you're starting to like have some good long looks in the mirror of a tough schedule down the stretch where you start 7-2. You're basically clinging on, hoping to get to nine wins and get into the playoffs.
Yeah, the two games against the Commanders have become... Those were wins earlier in the season that you had penciled in.
Now those are question marks for you. They might have flipped the other way.
And then you don't know what to believe anymore. And it sucks for Giants fans that you had, like, if they don't make the playoffs, it's going to be cruel because if you had said to the Giants fans before the season, like, let's say they finished 9-8 and missed the playoffs.
If you said you finished 9-8 and missed the playoffs, you'd be like, that's awesome. We're in.
Like, that's great. Year one table, this team is not very good because it's not a very good team.
But the fact they started 7-2, if they now miss the playoffs, now it's a cruel twist of how the schedule worked and how they started the season. It was awesome, though, when they applauded for Kenny Galladay, who made a catch today.
That was very funny. And the crowd just went apeshit for him.
They couldn't believe it. It was great.
It was a touching tribute to him. If you're the Giants, you at least have some things that you can point at.
If they end up going off the rails a little bit, maybe they squeak into the playoffs, get blown out. Maybe they don't make the playoffs.
You're still in a good spot as a Lions fan because you have, I think, fixable issues. Yeah.
I think you have to get some weapons on offense. You have to have people that can catch the ball and then run with the football down the field.
Yeah. Those guys you can find.

They're out there.

A couple defensive – I mean, like, Aiden Hutchinson,

if he is the player that he looked like today

and has looked like in the last couple weeks,

like, if you have one of the impact edge rushers in the NFL,

everything becomes easier.

Everything becomes easier.

Like, everything works a lot easier when you have that one guy who,

like, a T.J. Watt.
We talk about the Steelers and what tj watt means to that steelers defense aiden hudson obviously isn't tj watt yet but like that's the one position on defense that if he if he really is exceptional it can make everything else easier for you he had a six spin move too as he was returning that interception yeah i love it when when defensive guys that never touch the ball try to like hit the madden buttons on themselves yes that was the best but yeah i i do think that the giants are problems are fixable even if you end up stinking down the stretch this year and you know that you've got a good coach and that you have a general manager that's not gettleman and so like the future is very bright if you're a giants fan yes yes uh we're gonna say jake i don't know if they would actually do it the league because the Cowboys are such a big draw but in two weeks it's Colts Cowboys Sunday night Giants Commanders flex they do love doing that with the NFC East but the Cowboys are a huge draw but it's the Colts yeah yeah they love Dallas I think Dolphins not Niners could be a change I think that comes down to if the Colts win what what is it, two weeks from now? Yeah, two weeks from today. If the Colts win next week, I think they'll keep it Colts-Cowboys and be like, Colts are fighting for their playoff hopes.
Yes, then the Saturday discussion. The fact we're having the conversation.
Although, if you're asking me honestly, you said 49ers-Dolphins? That's a 4 o'clock game. I could say Mike McDaniel versus Kyle Shanahan.
I want that game he could flex that yeah that's that game makes my pants tight so if it happens we called it Jake as an aside how how excited do you get during flex season trying to predict it's cool you should yeah you should maybe like do that should be those should be your picks okay yeah like you should I mean a separate but like I need I need flex picks and also let's keep track I think it a 14-day notice, right? Yeah. Let's keep track of whether or not they did a good job with it.
So this flex tonight, Chargers Chiefs, great job. Great job.
In my fantasy flex league, that score is very high. I just want maybe on...
Well, Steelers-Bengals, we'll get to it. That was the original game.
That was a good game, too. Yeah, maybe every Friday you can give us a flex update.
Like, hey, guys, heads up. Two weeks from now, we're looking at this.
You got it. Yeah.
Learn all the rules, though, because there's weird rules like CBS and Fox get first dibs to some games. You can protect them.
Each team maxes out at five. If there's any AWL who's listening.
We should just add it to Fantasy Fuck Boys and have a flex position. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Perfect, Hank.
Weird flex, but okay. Yeah.
And if there's any AWLs who work in NBC or any other, and we can get inside info on just how it works. We're not asking for you to tip us off, but just how it works in terms of the rules and stuff.
Well, I'm rooting for a flex now. We'll take 13.
I love that the flex has become like the new it. But it's like in advance.
Yeah. Like this team has.
Keep track of like which teams have never been flexed before. I'll look into it.
Jake's eyes lit up when he was like, oh, look at this. Two weeks from now.
Yeah. Watch out.
Like, I like that. I like seeing that in you.
Flex in the city. Yeah.
Yeah. Nice.
Yeah. Real flex.
No flex. Zone.
No. No flex.
Zone. Okay.
Next up, Falcons 27, Bears 24. This is just Groundhog's Day.
Yeah, so I got a question for you. Are you at all worried that just the act of losing is going to get very familiar? Yes.
Yes. That's what I said last week in terms of i would like for them to sprinkle in a win from time to time and uh this game had every bears game that's that's happened this year since justin fields like has started to ascend he looked great he was playing great he made some great throws he made some great runs he also had a couple throws that weren't great he threw a ball directly off off of, I think it was his right guard's helmet.
That was tough, but that's okay. We can take that when he makes the electric plays.
And then we got to a point, you know, the Bears defense had some issues. The special teams had some issues, which we'll talk about.
Correll Patterson. Get to the last drive.
Can we get down the field and maybe win this game? I do not know. I actually think that Luke Getze, the guy who's calling the plays, I think he's actively been given orders to lose games because they started the drive.
Justin Fields' hamstring was a little hurt. He starts a design quarterback run.
He bangs up his shoulder. What does he do with a guy who's got a gimpy hamstring and gimpy shoulder? He does another design quarterback run.
And then on third down, the check down that it wasn't a good thrown ball. Montgomery probably should have caught it, but it wasn't.
It was a bad pass by Fields. And then rinse, repeat.
The Bears lose by three. Justin Fields looks great.
And, yeah, I would like to sprinkle in a win from time to time. Just to have him smile.
No, I've said this. If the Bears finish this season 3-14, it's a problem.
They need to win probably two more games mixed in with what Justin Fields is doing. And I hope if he's hurt even a little bit, they should be the most cautious with him.
Do not play him against the Jets if he is even a little bit injured. You know what I mean? Like, this is not – at this point, we are – if we don't get a top five draft pick, that's a problem in itself.
So what you got to do right now is – because he does have the talent to be, like, a generationally great quarterback if he's in the right system. You got to get him addicted to winning and turn him into a psycho.
you got to give him like he is you got to give him a taste for winning and just have him become a completely insane person that's that's totally motivated just by winning yeah you got to get him into that zone and that's not going to happen if if he just has to like get bitter every single week and and get sad after games and to his credit he did like he talked to the media and everything afterwards. No, he's a gamer.
He doesn't want to. Yeah, even though he was, like, injured and stuff during the game, he could have just, like, skipped out on it and gone home.
Or it could have been like, you know, is there a problem? No. Yeah.
Or, like, it was windy in the dome. You just got to get him into that.
It was windy as hell. You got to turn him into a psycho.
That's the and he is i think he actually is pretty a competitive psycho in that he like we've talked about he doesn't really smile i think he very very desperately wants to win and uh yeah he made some electric plays and they fell short and uh it sucks i would like for them to win and i want him to be healthy and uh yeah that's it's groundhog's day every single game the bears have played since uh beating the patriots on monday football has been the exact same like play really good justin fields plays great defense special teams someone makes a mistake and the overheads the overheads and they have a chance at the end and it falls apart yep like it's just i'm watching and i I'm not sick of watching it because he makes plays – like, that – I think it was the – this is where the guys who look at the box score, I'll just never, like, either you watched it or you didn't. When he made that 10-yard scramble, I think it was the second quarter, when it – like, a guy was tackling him and he shook him.
It was just like, what the fuck is going on? And then he made that other scramble in the fourth to keep the play alive for,

I don't know, 15 seconds it felt like, and then hit someone.

Like those plays are exceptional.

He's calm.

He still needs to be better as a pocket passer because that's what happened

with the interception at the end.

I know that those are like the things he needs to work on.

But yeah, all that's awesome.

The interception at the end, I don't think he was passing the ball to the running back.

It's a very good thing. the interception at the end.
I know that those are the things he needs to work on, but yeah. All of it's awesome.
The interception at the end, I don't think he was passing the ball to the running back. I think he was throwing it to the receiver that was running the crossing route.
He might have been. And the running back jumped up and tipped it to the receiver.
Either way, he does need to get better as a pocket passer, but everything else has gotten so much better that that will come. I'm very that will come as for the Falcons good win for them there has been some Desmond Ritter rumblings so the report came out before the game that they're sticking with Mariota as long as they're playoff like eligible they're still alive in the hunt and Mariota played okays got hurt which that sucked eddie jackson hit him low which i don't blame like the defenders have no you can't go high big well you can't well you can't go high so you like i don't know it's like one of those tough spots for a lot of defenders now because you get if you even go close to the head you get flagged for that but that sucked and then cordero patterson is uh officially best kickoff returner of all time.
Yeah, he's got the record. This is crazy to me.
So he has seven career touchdowns of 100-plus yards. Yeah, nuts.
Seven career touchdowns of 100-plus yards. No other player in NFL history has more than three.
And listen, Devin Hester is the best returner, all-around returner. He has, I think, 14 punt returns in his career.
I'm a Deion guy. Deion guy, but he, Cordero Patterson is objectively the best kickoff returner at this point.
He has nine. He broke the record.
He has nine kickoff returns in, what did you say, seven over 100? Seven over 100 yards, which is crazy to me. That's so many.
To me, that's. What's up, Hank? What's that, X? Oh, Dante Hall? Dante Hall? You were a Dante Hall guy? The human joystick.
Yeah. Love Dante Hall.
I mean, he had that, like, him and Josh Cribs both had a moment where it was more than a moment, a few years, where it was just like, oh, man, these guys are awesome. Dante Hall was.
I think it was because I was a kid, too, but he was the swaggiest dude. He was.
I think he was the most fun to watch when he had the ball because he would make like seven guys miss on every return, and he would run backwards and like juke. He had more jukes.
He was the best juker that I've ever seen. Cordero Patterson – well, Devin Hester had a ton of jukes too, but yeah, Cordero Patterson, the craziest part about him is he shouldn't be that fast fast he's so big guy yeah he's so big and when he doesn't even look like he's that fast like he doesn't look um i'm trying to think like tyree kill obviously when you see him run you're like oh fuck this guy's so much faster than everyone yeah he just it's one of those deceptive things where it's like he's just running faster than everyone it doesn't look like he's this uh crazy twitchy muscle guy but he's so much faster than he takes those long strides yeah he gets going and he wasn't even really that much of a uh he wasn't ever used as a running back when he was on the vikings remember he came on part of my take and we asked him if he was gonna be like ty montgomery yeah and start to get some carries he was like yeah i'd like my coach to do that and then his chain chain started bouncing off the microphone.
And we're like, damn, this guy's cool. And he's extremely fast.
So yeah, I think we put him as a first ballot Hall of Very Good. But now, I don't know, he might be a Hall of Famer.
Well, Devin Hester should be a Hall of Famer. He absolutely should.
So I think that, yeah, if Cordero Patterson plays for a couple more years. He's in the part of my take Hall of Fame.
He probably needs to play a couple more years. We should make our own Hall of Fame.
We should. He's definitely in there.
He's the number one kick returning guest. Well, no, because Devin Hester came on the show too.
Yeah. They're both in there.
They're both in there. Yeah, okay.
We have the best Hall of Fame for kick returners. That's true.
We've got to get Dante Hall on. And we have Dion too.
And we have Dion, yeah. That's true.
So we do need Dante Hall on the show. Yeah, and we need to get Josh Cribs.
Yep. We'll complete.
We'll collect them all. Yeah, so Falcons, I don't know.
Nothing else. I mean, this is a good win for them.
The Bears aren't good as a team. I don't delude myself.
I think they're not bad. They're not bad.
They're not good. Yeah, no, like if the Bears are on TV, I want to watch that game.
Well, yeah, Justin Fields makes it must-watch. But, yeah, as a totality, like as a football team, I don't think they're good.
Jumping back to what you said about Desmond Ritter and the Marcus Mariota situation, the way that I saw it made it almost seem like it was a defeatist proposition that the Falcons had where they said, we're going to keep Mariota starting until we get eliminated from the playoff fund. It wasn't so much optimistic.
Like we're trying to make the playoffs right now. It was just like, we're going to keep them in here for a couple more weeks.
And then when we're officially eliminated, we're going to make the switch to Ritter. Yeah.
And I was just thinking hypothetically, maybe Falcons fans can, can educate me to what they believe or what they think. If you're a Falcons fan, do you truly want to go back to the Super Bowl again? Probably not.
Like in your heart of hearts. No.
Knowing that if you lose again, it's going to be horrible. I think if you gave Falcons fans, if you said to Falcons fans, you go to the Super Bowl, there's a 95% chance you win, but there's a 5% chance you get 28-3 again.
I think they'd be like, no thanks. Probably not, yeah.
Yeah, I think it'd have to be like 99-1. Or could you, like right now if you were saying.
And then who wouldn't, like one's never going to come up, right? Yeah. Hank? Our Falcons fans, if you were to take this right now, would you go to the Super Bowl knowing that you'd have to play against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl? No, no.
Would you have our Falcons? No, no, no, no. No chance.
No chance. No way, right? No, thank you.
Like, it's not worth it to go through that whole week. No.
You have to do, like, media day and everything like that. Be up in the game at some point? Yeah.
No. It actually sounds awful to me.
No, no. Definitely not.
Maybe a nice, like like if our falcons said like maybe a nice uh divisional wildcard weekend we yeah give me a win in week one and we'll go on the road and play the one seed and lose like the early saturday game yeah let's win that yeah and then week two yeah we'll kindly bow out and take our ball and go home yeah then that was fun that was a good season um yeah i like that that's a that's a good hypothetical and agree. Probably not.
I'm curious to know what Falcons fans think. Yes.
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Okay. Oh, I had one last thought about the Bears I forgot to mention.
Is Justin Fields, can I count his greatness both on the field in his play but also the fact that he does just enough to lose every game to get the team better? Is that part of his greatness? Yeah. Right? Can't I spin it that way? Where I'd be like, he's so great on the field, and then he's so great in knowing just when to stop being great so the team can be future great.
Put that on a quote board. I think you know that this is not a good place to get yourself into because you don't want to make a major facet of your new quarterback that he's great at losing.
Right, but right now he's... It's good for the ultimate outcome.
Being great at losing is great for getting the team better overall. So he has pretty much perfectly played enough.
He's played well enough to be like, holy shit, I've got my guy, but also at the same time he's not actively damaging the future of the draft right yeah it's basically next year if they if they load up next year and he's still losing games by three points then we can have the discussion like what's going on but right now he's just setting himself up to be even more future great i did see the take out there and i hope i kind of hope it gets started because uh it's it's a fun discussion to have should the bears sit Justin Fields for the rest of the year? Oh, I saw that one pussy. I saw it bubble up.
He was like, you have to sit Justin Fields the rest of the season. No, you fucking don't, dude.
He's a football player who wants to play football, and he's still growing. I love the fact that we're having the conversation, though.
Yeah, I saw that, too. In order to get better at football, sometimes you have to play football.
Yeah, and guess what? Justin Fields, as great and as excited I am about him, he still has a lot of things he has to work on. I'm very open about that.
Yeah. I do think they're good.
The difference is I don't think he's a finished product. I just think that what I've seen, he will be a finished incredible product.
Are the Bears wasting Justin Fields' prime right now? I saw that, and I was just like, holy shit, what a pussy. do if he is even like a little bit hurt though like if his hamstring don't play him again oh yeah of course like if you know if he has a soft tissue injury give him an extra week even after he recovers that shit is not like that's not worth it but yeah he has to play the rest of but yeah if he's healthy you don't you're not shutting him down yeah he's every game is a learning experience yeah He's getting better every week, so why would you do that?

Yeah, that's a crazy take.

But it's basically the like.

I like that somebody's putting it out there just so that we can dunk on it. Yeah, it's like guys playing four games in college

and then opting out for the rest of the career.

I want somebody to ask Dan Dockage that question.

My ass.

My ass.

My ass.

My ass.

My ass he sits out. My ass.
My ass. My ass he sits out.
My ass. Alright, Saints 27, Rams 20.
We did not have this game on TV because we are protesting Dennis Allen's choice to have Andy Dalton be the quarterback. Andy Dalton actually played well, but it did.
Jameis Winston came out and said it hurt his soul to not be playing. The Rams are a complete dumpster fire.
Matthew Stafford gets hurt. I think he had another concussion.
So it's weird because he got into the concussion protocol during the week this week. Right.
But there's no clear evidence of when he took it. Oh, wait, no, that was last week.
Yeah, last week. Yeah, yeah.
And so there's some weird stuff going on. They're not exactly sure what's going on.

I don't think he was ever diagnosed with a concussion,

but he was somewhat in the concussion protocol,

and then they took him out to evaluate him for another concussion this week.

It's just very weird.

It's very weird. It's very strange.

I don't know what's going on there.

Sean McVay has lost four games in a row for the first time in his career.

Seems like he'd be much happier just being on television once a week talking about football. Well, no, PFT, because we just talked about it with Justin Fields.
The Rams will get a better draft pick. That's true.
Oh, wait. Wait a second.
They don't have any. That goes to the Detroit Lions.
Yes, yes. So the more they lose, the more that the Detroit Lions continue to stop.
What if the Detroit Lions just absorbed all the fuck-them-picks energy

from the Rams and loaded up on picks?

What if the Lions just become a dynasty?

What if the Lions become a dynasty and we look back at the Stafford trade

and we're like, that was like the Rock and Ishmael trade

where it's like, holy shit.

The Rams won one, the Lions won four.

Yeah.

What did you get, Matt Stafford? What did it cost you? Everything. Everything.
The Rams are so sad now. Instead of like recapping and trying to figure out.
I mean Bryce Perkins came into the game. Who's been on the Rams roster since 2020.
He played at Virginia. And then he played somewhere else too before that.
I can't remember off the top of my head. But I do like that we're, like, warming up for the Bryce Young era because I think he's the second Bryce ever to play quarterback in the NFL.
So we're getting, like, more accustomed. We're getting to Bryce's.
Yeah, to Bryce. We had Bryce Petty for a while for the Jets, and now we have Bryce Perkins.
But Rams like they're so depressing uh that my entire like recap of the game was just immediately go to their schedule and be like do I have to watch them in prime time uh for the rest of the season and the answer unfortunately is yes twice in back-to-back weeks can we flex that out uh we can't flex those out actually I think they have a very late bye so one of them it might be no no it is back-to-back weeks. Can we flex that out? We can't flex those out.
Actually, I think they have a very late bye, so one of them, it might be. No, no, no.
It is back-to-back weeks. They play the Raiders on Thursday night football.
That's going to suck. And then they play the Packers on Monday night football the next week.
Imagine ESPN being like, yes, we got Rams-Packers in the middle of December. What a fucking coup for us.
By the way, in two weeks is also Eagles Titans. So that's another one that could be flexed.
Oh, for Sunday Night Football. Yeah, so my flex of the year.
Okay, that's your flex. Okay.
Are you calling right now? Well, I don't know who. Tony? It's going to get out.
Eagles Titans is going to get out? No. Colts Cowboys.
Oh, Colts Cowboys. I was going to say Eagles Titans, Dolphins know who.
Fody? It's going to get out. Eagles-Titans is going to get out? No.

Colts-Cowboys.

Oh, Colts-Cowboys. I was saying Eagles-Titans, Dolphins-Niners.

Oh, so you're saying the Colts-Cowboys, your flex of the year, that's out?

Yes.

Wow.

He's calling his shot, folks.

We gave him a little bit of power.

He's gone way too far with it.

Okay.

If you don't get this, then you lose all credibility.

It's almost like when you didn't put Wisconsin in the tournament. Okay and i'm still here yeah well barely yeah uh that's i'm joking jake i do like this flex of the year now i'm now i'm invested we better wake up and hope when is it when did it when is the deadline so let me check okay yeah what if the deadline passed what if the deadline already, no, no.
No, you went 0 for 1. You went flex of the year.
You just went flex of the year on us. That was the fastest loss ever.
You can't be like Bill Cowher taking back your flex of the year. Yeah, you're right.
You're right. But, yeah, we have to watch the Rams two more times versus the Raiders Thursday Night Football at Packers.
I saw a report that Cooper Cup was out for six to eight weeks. Just say he's out for the year at this point.
Well, Cooper Cup's one of those psychos that definitely will be like, week 18, let me play. I'll train all in for week 18.
Dude loves football. As for the Saints, I'm so sick of their shit.
I just don't. I feel like they're just going to keep doing this where they lose a game.
Everyone's like, holy shit, stop playing Andy Dalton. Then they win a game.
Like, oh, Andy Dalton. I mean, they have – the only thing I can say nice about the Saints is Juwan Johnson looks very good as an undrafted tight end, and then Chris Alave is the real deal, which is nice because that's a high draft.
It is. Chris Alave had the one long touchdown today, and then also Taysom Hill got in the action a little bit.
Good. So he got in there 10 carries i think for 50 yards that's fun keep doing stuff like that make make your team tolerable to watch to watch that's all we want because i the nfl is a better league when we're able to have their games on our television in the gambling cave yes i like and the saints uniforms they were incredible yeah they were i love those so good and that's the only reason why i'm a little bit upset that we didn't watch the saints today is because i could have just looked at those uniforms yeah for three and a half hours those were great uniforms uh yeah i'm looking at the saints uh this year they've gone uh they won their first game they lost three in a row they won they lost two in a row they won they lost two in a row they won so bet on the 49ers and Buccaneers the next two weeks.

Yep.

And then they'll beat the Falcons.

Yeah.

They'll follow this up with two straight losses.

Yeah.

And then I could see them losing to the Browns and the Eagles and then beating the Panthers.

Yeah.

So this is going to be their whole season.

I kind of I like that.

Yeah.

You're consistently inconsistent.

I'll say it again.

Dennis Allen.

If you don't have Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill taking snaps against the Bucs on Monday Night Football, December 5th, I'm going to jump in front of a bus. That hurts my soul.
12 days is the flex deadline. So Monday or Tuesday.
Wow. So like tomorrow.
Today or tomorrow. We are on flex of the year watch.
Jake, I need you to explicitly say what your flex of the year is. Well, I don't know which game is going to get flexed in.
No, he's saying that Colts-Cowboys will be flexed out. There's a lot of other options.
That is the ballsiest thing you can do to flex out a Cowboys game. You're coming out of the gate hard.
But your first one, you put your nuts on the table, right? Yeah. No, listen, it's a thrill.
If it's a Jaguars Titans, come on. Yeah, you're right.
You're going big game hunting. They won't flex out the Cowboys.
No, no, no. Our boy, Flex of the Year, he called the flex master all right so so give me your your power rankings in terms of which one you think is most likely this is so exciting to get flexed in I love the flex master you got you got your eyes on three games right Giants commanders is third okay so it's between Dolphins Niners and Eagles Titans uh Eagles are playing Sunday Night Football next week will they do it it? That's true.
Will they do it, though? I don't think they'll do it again. Also, Titans doesn't really move the needle.
Yeah. I'll go with Dolphins Niners.
That feels right. That feels right.
But they're also allergic to having the Dolphins on Sunday Night Football, right? Because that was the first time in... Since like 2010.
Oh, wow. You really painted yourself into a corner here, Marsh.

This is going to be great.

All right, well, everyone tune in.

And if I lose...

Oh, well, I lose my flexibility.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I lose my flexibility.

No, oh, well. You can't oh, well.
No, oh, well. There's no oh, well.
No, no, no.

No, no, no. It's very Owellian.

No, no, no.

No, no.

No Owell.

I'll never say that word again on this show.

Don't Owell.

Flex.

If you lose this, I want real tears.

Okay.

For the AWL.

If you lose this, I want real tears.

Okay.

For the AWL.

If you lose this, you have to drop another F-bomb.

You have to say, I fucked up.

I'm Jake Marsh and I fucked up.

Done.

And then the other F-bomb, too.

Yeah.

You got to drop that one.

The Brenneman.

We're going to make Jake go Brenneman.

All right. Yeah.
Saints, whatever, dude. Ravens, Panthers.
we're gonna make jake do a breneman all right uh yeah saints whatever dude uh ravens panthers another game we didn't have on which this was the correct choice nailed it um ravens defense is as good as we thought like they were it's a bummer i feel like pj walker could have won game. Baker Mayfield was back in.
It was a tight game.

Then the Ravens defense had three turnovers in the fourth quarter alone.

Kind of just like, all right, enough with this shit.

And won the game.

And, yeah, I don't really.

I guess I'll say something nice about the Panthers.

I actually think the Panthers, depending on how the draft goes,

they might be my bounce back team next year.

They'll have a new coach.

Their defense is good. Like, their defense is pretty good and has some dudes.
They still have DJ Moore. I'm going to preemptively say Panthers bounce-back team next year.
I think a lot has to do with who they hire as a coach, though. That, too.
That, too. Right? The Ravens have led by double digits in every single game this year.
Yeah. So the Ravens, they can womp any team in the NFL.
Yes. That's what I'm taking from that.
And they're 23-3. Lamar is 23-3 against teams with losing records.
So he's pretty consistent that he beats teams that are beneath him. You get credit for that.
You do get credit for it. Yeah, you can't really learn that much about the Ravens.
You beat the Panthers. Their defense is – the Super Bowl future I made on the Ravens is based on their defense.
I mean, Lamar is – it's going to basically be defense and then Lamar being electric. Yeah, if Lamar catches fire in the playoffs.
And they did because they do not have wide receivers, but Demarcus Robinson was great today. So maybe that's the answer.
Maybe he – andrews isn't back yet i don't believe i put it he played he did okay he did he did so yeah that was gonna be my excuse for the ravens offense sucking and that's gone well the ravens offense it will occasionally suck yeah that's just kind of who they are as a franchise that's who they've they've been for quite some time once in a while you're gonna be like wow this team is just painfully bad offensively. But anytime you have Lamar on the field, it's like, okay, any carry, he can take it 70 yards.
Right, and basically my faith is in the Ravens defense, Lamar being electric, Justin Tucker being electric. I also, yeah, Justin Tucker being electric.
That's essentially like the formula. Right, that's the formula that I'm banking on for them to make a deep run.
That motherfucker don't miss. He doesn't.
Justin Tucker. I admire the Ravens' commitment, though, to not ever having a good wide receiver.
Yeah. It's actually great.
It's a good running bit that they've had for, I don't know, like, what, since Anquan Bolden? Maybe that, Lamar, since he is his own agent, maybe that's what he says. He's like, I will take the initial deal you gave gave me you have to get me three wide receivers yeah package three do you think lamar's gonna be so good at being his own agent that he's gonna represent other players too he should that'd be sick yeah lamar it like lamar should like lamar should call aaron rogers and be like you think you have a bad bro come on like they they tried to bring in fucking Des Des Bryant like 10 years after he was good or yeah yeah pretty bad he was a tight end that was their answer and he immediately got COVID remember that yes if the other guys in the league were smart and they wanted Lamar on their team if I'm like a wide receiver on I don't know uh what's a team that's like a quarterback if I'm a a wide receiver on like the...
Let's say Garrett Wilson. What team is he on? Garrett Wilson? Yeah.
Where's Garrett Wilson? That's a good question. What team is he on? Jets? Oh, I was just random.
I just picked a random receiver. So if I was Garrett Wilson or Braxton Berrios, we can pick any one of these guys hypothetically, I would say, Lamar, you can be my my agent so you even get a taste of my contract if you sign with the jets the jets would win the super they would right now if listen if everybody on the jets yeah committed right now and said we're all firing our agent and lamar is going to represent all of us so he gets whatever it is five percent ten percent i don't know what it is in the the NFL future of all our future earnings of any contract that we sign Lamar Jackson would be a jet next year 100% guaranteed yeah you should do that if your defense is mad enough they should reach out to Lamar yeah they should be like we want you to represent us well we gotta get to the offseason and in that meantime we'll have to make do I just want to see I want to see Lamar go to the Jets just so Billy's going to be like,

he's never going to get hurt.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, the Jets would.

I think we said, yeah, we were like, was it a conversation today or it might have been earlier this week where it was like,

Lamar on the Jets would be incredible.

Yeah.

They're such a good defense.

17-0.

They're such a good defense.

Like, why not?

Okay. Rounding off, we have three more games raiders broncos somebody's got to win this game nathaniel hackett and then almost we almost had a tie and then they forgot about davante adams who torched him for the game-winning touchdown on the opening drive of overtime and i guess like this is just a those games where it's like, the winner, can you really celebrate? And the loser, you're really sad.
Yeah. I personally would have guarded the one good player that the Raiders had if I was the Broncos.
I think Patrick Sertain was on him, which sucks because he is an electric cornerback. Nobody was on him.
No one was on him. He had 11 yards of separation.
yards yeah that's that's probably being generous he was he was wide open uh it is really like a thank god we didn't lose situation if you're the raiders it's like okay well i'm not getting fired after this game yeah and probably not because mark davis is a broke boy is a broke boy uh nathaniel hackett is is pulling out all the stops, yeah. He gave up play calling duties before the game.

He announced that he was no longer going to be calling the plays.

So now he has – It's Clint Kubiak.

Clint Kubiak.

He's also got –

Good friends with office manager Brett.

Yep.

Shout out to OMB.

He's got an assistant that he brought in that's now handling some of the game time decisions for him.

Yeah.

In terms of when to go for it, different play calling parameters.

And then this guy whose now job is actually to call the plays. So'm not really sure what it is nathaniel hackett's doing anymore um he's just like hanging out yeah around the facility he's fist pumping he was pretty fired up at points in this game he might be doing some like part-time doctoring i know that's a passion of his i like the broncos uniforms in this game they were incredible yeah the all oranges all orange um and Russ wasn't terrible except he had a terrible moment um basically the reverse of Taylor Heineke where at the end of the game it was two after the two-minute warning Raiders had burned all their timeouts third and ten for the Broncos and he scrambled and just threw the ball like at his receiver's feet and it's like dude just take a sack there and there's another 40 seconds that go off this clock and now the Raiders are you know no timeouts a minute and 20 instead of no timeouts a minute and 45 and the Raiders were comfortably able to get down the field to to tie the game it was just what are you doing dude what are you doing that's that's a that's a 10-year quarterback like you can't make that mistake yeah it's it's funny looking back as to what this offseason was telling us about this division because we're like oh man this division is going to be insane the raiders awesome they got josh mcdaniels that offense is going to be incredible broncos russell wilson new head coach comes from green bay russell wilson great quarterback they're going to let him.
Broncos are going to be awesome. You said during the stream that you bet on the Broncos to win the division? I might have.
I mean, no, listen. Maybe.
I'm joining you in shame because I guarantee you, someone go find the clip, I was like, watch out. If the Broncos are good this year, Russ MVP.
Yeah, because there was – Couldn't be worse, those two takes. There was zero balls that touched the ground at the practice that we went to that one time.
Could not be worse. You can't think of a worse take than Broncos 2 in the AFC West, Russell Wilson.
Although those are... That's a combined parlay.
If one happens, the other happens. And I'm pretty sure that we were suffering from the altitude, too, when we were out in Denver.
When we were there. Probably had some mushrooms in our system.
You called me big guy. And it was a bad take, but it's funny because we spent the entire offseason talking about how different and crazy this division is going to be, and it's exactly the same as it's ever been.
It's Patrick Mahomes being awesome. Patrick Mahomes will kick the shit out of you and suck your soul.
The Chargers will be frustratingly good and consistently lose close games. The Raiders will every now and then show a flash where it's like, oh my God, this is the Raiders' offense.
And Derek Carr will be a very likable, kind of sappy guy, but you feel bad for. Who's the guy in Game of Thrones that constantly gets, was it Greyjoy? The guy that gets his dick cut off? Yeah, Reek.
Reek. Yeah, that's Derek Carr.
He's like, he seems occasionally to have his heart in the right place. You kind of root for him sometimes, but other times it's just like, this guy's being tortured in his whole life.
And then the Broncos have an amazing defense. They're the exact same team as last year.
And then can't do shit offensively. The Broncos would be 9-1 now if they scored 18 points in regulation.
Every game if they scored 18 points in regulation, it'd be 9-1. They are the exact same team.
It's free money. I don't want to say it's free money.
It's free money. Gamble responsibly.
The Broncos under every week is free money. They have the perfect combination of a very good defense, even without Bradley Chubb, and a horrific offense.

So with Hackett, we always talk about the coaches saving my job moves. Giving up the play calling, I feel like that's a big one that they can do sometimes.
Another one would be benching the quarterback. So I was thinking about it.
if Russell Wilson had any semblance of being a normal person, I think that like maybe after Thanksgiving, so somewhere in like week 14, 15. Yeah.
Just hammy. I'm out for the year.
Yeah. Just, just, just wash yourself from this year because you are on the Broncos for the future.
You're stuck with this team. They with you probably more they're stuck with you just hit a complete like men in black refresh I'm out play the rest of the season I come back next year new team yeah like you have to do that because at this point Russell Wilson starting week 18 and just sadly being the same Russell Wilson who's been terrible this year.
And again, he wasn't that bad today. You have to just flush this.
You have to bury this entire season. Right.
So there's zero chance that he gets benched. If he did get benched, I'm pretty sure that they just fired a thing and he'll hack it immediately.
Right. But he should do it himself.
I'm super excited to see what Russell Wilson does this offseason because he has to reinvent himself, and I'm just pumped to see what deep, dark hole of pseudoscience he falls down and gets super committed to for the next five months because it's going to be some fucked up stuff. He's probably going to do an entire documentary special with Gwyneth Paltrow.
Yeah, goop. Yeah, I'm going to make candles out of my butthole.
Yeah, goop. Russell Wilson's goop.
I'm looking right now. We have one more prime time that's going to get flexed.
What week is that? And they might not flex that because it's Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes versus Russell Wilson.
You know what? I'm making that my flex of the year. Oh, damn.
It's coming off. I don't know if we both win.
You would root for that.

You're so nice.

How can you not root for you to win and him to lose?

No.

I'd rather him win than me.

That's a normal guy being here.

I want you to lose so bad, Jake.

I want to become the flex king of this show.

My early reports are saying there's no shot they take out the college.

Oh, no.

We'll see that.

Oh, no.

Okay.

We got two more games before we do that.

PFT, you got a couple more ads.

Yeah, before we get to the rest of the flop. They take out the cow.
Oh, no. Oh, no.
Okay. We got two more games before we do that.
PFT, you got a couple more ads. Yeah.
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Okay, last two games.

Bengals-Steelers.

The Bengals looked bad in the first half, and then the Bengals are back.

Four touchdowns for Joe Burrow.

It looked bad.

Joe Mixon got hurt, and then the second half they completely shut down.

The Bengals' defense, I don't know what they do.

Just every halftime they come out, and they're a different unit.

And then Joe Burrow looked good, and P. Ryan scored, I think, three touchdowns.

It was like, oh, this is the Bengals.

And I thought about it, and I looked back.

And if you're a Bengals fan, it's been a weird start to the season

because there have definitely been points in time where you're like, oh, this Bengals team is a flash in the pan last year. They're at the exact same point they were last year.
Last year, week 11, they were 6-4. They then finished the season.
Week 18, they had already clinched the division. They finished the season on a five and two run playing the you know

that big win against the Chiefs um go to the go to the Super Bowl like everything in front of them I feel like I know that like years aren't you can't be like oh it happened last year so it's gonna happen again but if you're a Bengals fan you got to be in the back of your head being like oh look at the schedule we're six and four we got a big game against the Chiefs in a couple weeks. We have basically the same setup where if we just get everyone healthy and put it back together, we're going to be in the exact same spot going into the playoff.
And you might get Jamar Chase back. And Jamar has right now reached the point in his rehab where he's just pretending that he's not hurt.
He's like, you know what? They're telling me that I need to be using the crutches. I'm just not going to do that.
I'm just going to come back and play football. So you can, if you're a Bengals fan, you can be like, I have every reason to be optimistic about what's going to happen at the end of the season, as long as we never have to play TJ Watt again.
Because I feel like TJ Watt does get in the head. That interception was so insane.
It was insane. It was nuts.
I've never, like a wide receiver probably wouldn't catch that ball most of the time. He's such a freak.
He's an absolute freak.

He's disgusting.

And he's just a guy that I think he's kind of owned Joe Burrow

for the last, what, three matchups that they've had?

Two interceptions in two games this year.

And then I think last year he also played pretty well against him.

That's a guy that would start to haunt your dreams a little bit.

Absolutely.

If you're Joe Burrow.

But if you're a Bengals fan, you are saying, like,

it's crazy that they're in the exact same spot. they've at times looked great at times looked bad but they have everything in front of them and if they get on a little mini run here in December where again big game against the Chiefs like what at home against the Chiefs in two weeks they don't overlook the Titans but the this is like the the Bengals are it's deja vu all, where it's like, we're going to be sitting here in late December being like, are they good? Yeah.
They've lost some weird games, but yeah, they're good. I'm actually very comfortable with where we are with the Bengals right now, which is if you were to say like, do we need to be respecting the Bengals more? I'd say no.
I think we're respecting the Bengals the perfect amount. I think there are.
If they win both of those games against the Titans and the Chiefs, then yeah, we do need to be respecting them. But right now, I feel like I have the proper amount of respect for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Here's what I'll say about the Bengals in terms of 6-4, 5-5 teams in that range. They're by far the most dangerous.
Like the Patriots, the Jets uh and the Chargers are all in that six and four five and five maybe even throwing the Colts at four and six like the Bengals are in that group you're like yeah maybe it's because we just saw it last year but there's just something about Joe Burrow and the way they play defense in second halves of games like yeah they might just put it together and just go on this run again. My instinct was to be like, no, the Chargers are my favorite team.
Yeah, right. But then if you put the Chargers against the Bengals, I think the Bengals just whoop the dog shit out of them.
Yeah, of course they do. And I did like that they went with the Siberian Tiger look.
I like it. You didn't like it on the road? No, I'm still getting used to it.
So it's like when you run into your teacher at the supermarket and she's wearing clothes that she doesn't wear to school and you're like oh this is weird i feel strange like i know that you're the same person but you look different like i understand that it's the bangles that are playing this game but i'm not used to it enough yet yeah my my sidebar my son we walked by his school the other on saturday he's like yeah my teachers live there yeah like yeah you're right they do they live there it's very true yeah but yeah the um i can't wait till they break it out in snow yep because in the cold today looked awesome when they break out in snow it's gonna look awesome uh but yeah i think we're right we're at the perfect spot of the bangles you have a healthy right the right amount of respect they're not as good as the bills and chiefs right now yeah but that doesn't mean they can't beat them in january yeah because joe burrow can do anything the fact is like the steelers the steelers could have beaten them today if the pigeons showed up yeah that's true pigeonless game kenny kind of showed some flashes when second half wasn't great yeah but that's the bengals defense i would like to see the ball jump out of kenny pickett's hands a little bit more and that drop by george pickens at the end obviously they ended up scoring um but yeah that was uh i don't know i if you're the stealers like you just want to be in these games tj watt be healthy and kenny pickett shows some flashes yeah that's about it we also had the um which is crazy we had a 1-1-1 stat line trent taylor for the bengals one catch one target one catch one yard hell yeah love it Stat Hall Sports tip me off to that I don't know, it's fun. Yeah, it's like a Tony Snell stat.
Yeah, that's a fun stat to look at and be like, oh he had one yard. I bet you Trent's listening to this right now.
Yeah, he is. Shout Trent 1-1-1.
Yeah, you're in our 1-1-1 club. Is Joe Mixon really hurt? What happened to him? I don't know.
I don't know if he like they don't they don't lose that much and joe mixon is a good running back but they don't lose that much when perine gets in yeah and the fact that they want they've been winning well i guess uh they this is off the buy so they did lose to the the browns but they can never beat the browns but um oh no they play the panthers last week the fact they're winning these games They beat the Panthers? Yeah, no, the Panthers thing's over. The Panthers thing is dead.
Yeah, because it also is dead because the Falcons beat the Bears. That's right.
So it's over. It died in a doubleheader today.
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Cowboys 40 Vikings three.

Hank, you're a Vikings fan.

You want to want to speak about this?

Season's over.

I mean, the fact that you jumped on.

We've been so adamant that the Vikings are frauds and you're like, you know what? They're good. And then this happens.
That was a brutal twist. Yeah, not good.
And then I will say this to Vikings fans. If you lose to the Patriots Thursday, then the season's tough.
Whose line is it anyway? I know it is. You guessed three and a half? I said it was three.

Is the game in New England?

No, it's in Minnesota.

I said three.

When Hank and I were talking about it earlier, he said three and a half.

I said three.

I'm going to say it's Vikings five.

What is it?

It's three?

Okay.

Yeah, because I figured like three and a half, everyone would just jump on that.

All the sharps, as they say.

The Vikings are eight and two with a negative point differential. Yeah.
Minus two. Minus two.
And we talked last week about how they were the second worst point differential of any team to ever be eight and one. The number one team was, I think, the 76 Raiders, who ended up winning the Super Bowl that year.
Yep. So every Vikings fan was like, see, we can do it too.
They did it. They had John Madden as a coach.
He was pretty good, I'm pretty sure. This is the worst Vikings home loss since 1963.
Ooh. That's bad.
That stings. So out of 110 teams ever to go 8-2, they're the worst when it comes to point differential oh that's a pretty big sample size and listen i i don't want to say we're right but god damn we're right we have been right yeah oh hank don't give me that face week 11 the vikings the vikings got their pants the vikings have played two really good nC teams, and they've gotten absolutely smoked by both of them.
What about the Bills? You're right. But we're talking about the NFC and the playoffs and the NFC.
The Vikings have had, like, the NFC is wide open, absolutely wide open. But you'd have to say the Cowboys and Eagles are somewhere in the top, and they've gotten smoked by them.
Absolutely smoked by them. And this one was never close.
It was not only the Cowboys offense and Tony Pollard just being an absolute freak show electric factory. It was Kirk Cousins fumbling on the first drive.
And, like, it was just, hey, he didn't throw any interceptions. Yeah.
That well he threw what like a 105 yards yeah something like yeah he was uh he was under he was the kirk cousins that uh nice guy good quarterback when things are going well but man did things not go well are they gonna are they gonna do anything like goofy stuff with chains and i don't know put their jewelry on them after this game i just i i needed this one i needed this one to feel. Sometimes it feels good to be right about a stupid take that we have.
Well, and it's also just a reminder that I think the Vikings are still a good team. They still will go to the playoffs.
But we know. This was just a little message from the future.
Being like, don't worry, guys. Don't worry.
The Vikings are are still a very good NFC team but I don't think they're going to do any damage I'm feeling very confident about the status of my ass with the Kirk Cousins tattoo situation yeah I feel real good about that I might double down on it and say like I'll get two ass cheek tattoos of Kirk Cousins I'm not saying it yet but I'm feeling confident enough to the point where where I'm feeling really good about the bets that we've made. Fun little stat that came out of this game, kind of similar to that Panthers thing, the last seven teams that have beaten the Buffalo Bills lose next week.
Bills beat it out of you. They beat it out of you, so it goes back to 2001.
All the way back to... Wait, wait, what? Sorry, 2021.
I was going to say, what the fuck? We've been missing out on money. Yeah, the Jaguars, when they beat the Bills, remember that? Yeah.
9-6, the legendary game. Then they lose to the Colts the next week, going all the way back there.
So it's a trend to keep your eyes out on. Okay.
Yeah, that is a trend. That absolutely to.
That absolutely is a trend we need to start betting. Yeah, this game.
It was just funny. It was kind of funny.
It was very funny. It just kept getting worse.
This game was over when at halftime, Brett Maher, who I always want to say Dan. Dan Bailey is just the kicker on the Cowboys.
Brett Maher made two consecutive 61-yard field goals because they had to do a last-minute review of a CeeDee Lamb catch. Which was an incredible throw-and-catch.
Dak Prescott, I think I saw the stat. It was a yard and a half out of bounds when he caught it.
Like, that's so far out of bounds when he caught it. And the first kick goes through, makes it by probably like a yard on the right section of the crossbar and then they're like oh he has to kick it again no chance he makes it again it's 61 yard field goal and then a second kick is even better yeah than the first one say okay this game's over this game is officially over uh i'm not gonna just rub it in on vikings there's still a lot of season left uh but they know.
They know we know, and we know they know.

That's the best way to sum

this whole thing up. Yeah, in a sick

twisted way, Kirk Cousins

fucked me again on this one. Why?

Because it would have been great if you beat the Cowboys. Yeah, that's

true. And he just absolutely

he shit the bed.

We know that you know.

Yep. And we know.

And it's okay. It's fine.

You gotta still root for your 8-2 team

Thank you. he shit the bed but we know we know that you know yep and we know and it's okay it's fine it's so you gotta still root for your eight and two team don't apologize for being eight and two the vikings will probably end up winning i'll say i actually think they'll win 12 games i think they'll go 12 and four okay and they'll be looking good they'll have a home playoff game they might even have two home playoff games, actually.
Right? Yeah. They'll have two home playoff games.
A lot of stuff could happen because they only have two losses. Right.
But I think they're going to finish 12-4. They're going to be very good.
12-5. What? 12-5.
12-5. Sorry.
12-5. My bad.
12-5. So, actually, I might even say 13-4.

13-4.

They're going to finish 13-4.

That's going to be a great record.

They're going to win the North easily.

They're going to have two home playoff games.

And what happened today will happen again.

And I won't take pleasure in it, but I have to report the facts.

It's our duty to report the facts. I take no pleasure in reporting this, Big Cat.

Thank you. And I won't take pleasure in it, but I have to report the facts.
It's our duty to report the facts. I take no pleasure in reporting this, Big Cat.
I think the Vikings are only going to lose maybe one more game this season. Yeah, no.
I think that there's a good chance. We're gloating a little bit, as is our right.
But there's a good chance that the Vikings could end up with home field advantage. Yeah, they play the Patriots and the Jets next two games at home with a mini-bye after the Patriots.
So, yeah, if they win Thursday night, I would agree with you because it's Lions, Colts, Giants, Packers, and Bears who are going to be dead by that time of the season. Yeah, I'm saying right now, 13 and four is,

is absolutely what they're going to be.

And they might be,

it might be even better.

Yeah. I think it's going to be a little bit better than that.

So just,

just rest on that.

You're going to win 13 games at least.

And then this is going to happen.

And we're going to come right back to these seats.

And again,

I don't,

I hate to do this because I'm just reporting the facts. And Vikings fans, I think, are great people.
They are. There's nothing against Vikings fans out there.
If you are, God bless you. You've dealt with your fair share of shit over the years.
But at the end of the day, we need to have an understanding that this is not personal between us and that you know that we know that you know that we know exactly what's going to happen. I have one door to our castle that's open that I'm a little worried about.
Wisconsin playing Minnesota on Saturday for the axe. So I would like Wisconsin to win that.
So because that's like there'll be some Vikings fans that will scurry in that door of our fortress and that will suck for me personally but then we'll go back to just regular that's fine I mean like listen I know I know that door's open I've been thinking about it I literally started thinking about it last night and I can't get out of my head that like I'm gonna have to deal with those mentions and then you know what I'll deal with it like a man i'll take it head on but uh that other than that the fortress is is locked up i i actually think that this is the type of of loss that could actually be good psychologically for vikings fans because you know as we've said like right you know these last the two losses that you have on your schedule you know exactly they're glaring where the expert and there will be as they continue to win and as they maybe win a playoff game or two playoff games, the Vikings army will swell throughout the playoffs, but it will be all for a moot point. And I think you'll understand that it'll be the least enthusiastic giant army of all time.
Yeah. Okay.
So we'll, back here uh same time same place uh somewhere around the divisional so maybe even nfc championship what we're doing is actually genius for us because the vikings are going to continue to win yeah and and you're not at home allowed to get mad at us right about the vikings winning because we're telling you like we know you guys are going to kick ass you guys are going to win a shitload of games this is that we know. Yeah, but you know the other part.
Yeah, the other part is the key part that we also know. I'm not going to say what that other part is.
Right. Last point, and it actually is a perfect segue to Football Guy of the Week.
Micah Parsons is a fucking psycho. He hurt his knee, went to the medical tent, came back into the game.
The Cowboys were up 34 at this point. The guy just – he has to play football.
It's crazy. Up 34, he actually got injured and then went back in the game.
I don't know if Mike McCarthy just puts up his hands like, I can't stop him from wanting to play football. But, man, does that guy love football.
I love that. I love Dan Quinn.
I love that he continues to rock the backwards cap. He's completely rebranded himself.
What if, oh, Big Cat, you know how you already said like preemptively, you're putting your bounce back team as the Panthers? Yeah. What if they hired Dan Quinn? Oh, that would be great.
That would be. That defense would rock.
He knows the division. Yeah, that defense would rock.
Yeah, the Cowboys, this is very encouraging for you because it probably makes you the frontrunner to get Odell Beckham as well. Oh, yeah.
That's pretty much going to happen. Odell, I think he tweeted out something about like, oh, man, you guys are going crazy.
I just love that Odell is... He continues to just be like, want me.
Like. I want you to want me.
Yeah, they went crazy today.

And then someone said, you celebrating on the star.

And he said with the mouth close emoji.

I miss Saquon.

Oh, I told you Giants, maybe he's so mixed signals.

I think from the no sources that I have Cowboys for the remainder of this year, then Giants next year.

Hmm.

All right. Football guy of the week.
And we'll finish up with who's back of the week. Perfect.
So last week's winner was Sam Porter's friend. Sam Porter was the guy who texted his buddy and said that he was engaged with his man's fiance.
And the guy just started talking about the football game that was on between Kansas City and the Titans. So he totally didn't realize that he was talking about not being engaged in football

but engaged in real life.

So shout out to Sam Porter's friends.

So our first nominee this week is a bunch of dudes in Georgia

who went to the Falcons game all dressed up as Mike Ditka.

That was cool.

That looks like a fun time.

I think it was a bachelor party.

Yeah, it was a bachelor party. And our colleague John Fe Feidelberg, pointed out, which I happen to agree with him, 20 dudes is a lot for a bachelor party.
It's a lot of dudes. That's true.
It's a lot of dudes. That's a hard bachelor party to wrangle.
What's the right number? I'd say like 10 to 12. Yeah, I was going to say 12.
12. I would say inviting 12 and having 10 show up.

That's probably perfect.

That's right around the right number.

And so there were 20 guys on a Sunday morning that were all able to get their acts together,

get dressed up in the same costume, and be at the game on time.

That's a shocker.

And throw out what I said about the 20 dudes, because whatever his match party has already

happened is just more of like a future thing.

That scene in the house, all them like probably a little still drunk getting drunk again putting on all the costumes that had to be the funnest thing ever like that's just that is just the epitome of guy friendship like being like look how stupid we look yeah like and just getting a little goofy like you're in that goofy hungover state and you have a couple beers. You get drunk again.
I saw that picture and I was like, God damn it. I wish I was there.
That looks so much fucking fun. That's kind of like a European thing almost.
Like to all get dressed up together and go out to an event. Guys don't do that that much, but it's awesome.
Right. And you know it's silly, but it's also so much fun.
And it's just such like we need to do that more as guys. We need to just, you know, be hung over together because that is the best part about a bachelor party is not going out.
It's waking up the next morning and having like laughs about what happened and still being a little hung over. And that first dude who cracks a beer at like 9 a.m.
being like, let's get the party yep that's if i could bottle that friendship that's the best friendship in the world uh do you think after the game they like went out to a bar met up with some girls and then one of the girls started like making out with one of the dickas and then forgot which dicka she was she was hooking up with i like and came back and another dicka took her yeah yes i think it probably happened also if they to the game, I'd assume that some of them stayed the night, which also is very fun friendship of being like stolen time. We shouldn't still be on this bachelor party.
Yeah. It's Sunday night.
Like, what are we doing? Northside Tavern. Shout out, man.
In Atlanta. Like that.
Yeah. Now I'm very jealous.
These guys look like they had a fucking awesome time. So I take back the 20 thing.
It is still a lot. a lot it's more it has nothing to do with like oh man that's like too many friends have it's more like logistically is a headache yeah like how do you get and it's i went on one in miami that was a lot of dudes and it was like we had to like go like when we went to dinner it was like like they sat us in like a like on couches because like we don't enough seating for you.
It's probably also three different groups of friends, three different eras of friendship that the groom has. What if you went to the Falcons-Bears game today and you were just dressed up like Ditka just because you'd been wanting to dress up like Mike Ditka at a Bears game and you showed up and there's just like 20 other dickos.
Yeah, I'd go home.

But yeah, I love these dudes.

These dudes, the text chain is going to be popping off all week being like, that was the best weekend ever.

And that's goals.

Our second nominee is Wyatt Teller, offensive lineman for the Browns.

His wife was concerned about him playing the snow,

was asking all these logistical questions.

She's pregnant, was very worried.

And on the whole subject, Wyatt Teller just said,

I like playing in the elements.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just a fact.

It doesn't matter about all the other crazy dangerous stuff.

There was some college football player that was a recruit.

I think he was at Nebraska this weekend. And he showed up and it was, I don't know, 16 degrees or whatever, and he came out there wearing a short-sleeved shirt just on the sidelines.
Oh, I love it. Because he was like, this is what I'm going to be playing in.
I'm going to take my recruiting visit here just sleeveless. Love it.
Our next nominee is Cam Smith on the Gamecocks. After beating Tennessee about his halftime adjustments to the defense, this is what he had to say.
Just chop your nuts. Really, that's all it is.
What adjustments were made during that break? Nothing. Just chop your nuts.
That's all it is. What? I love it.
Like it? Yep. And our last nominee is a high school kid from Madison, Wisconsin, Henry Suddy, who was born disabled but ended up learning to walk because he wanted to play football.
Well, that's the winner. Yeah.
I mean, the dude's dressed like Dick. You've got to feel like assholes now.
What about the guy that said we're just gonna drop our nuts, though? Well, this guy was inspired to play sports and learn to run because all of his older brothers played football, and he really wanted to play football. Yeah, okay, all right.
So, yeah, send him the nail in the football. Vox Populi.
Yeah, that's how a football guy works. Yeah, my vote is for the disabled kid who learned how to run just to play football.
I'm voting for Trump. Yeah.
So reinstate him as the football guy of the week. Okay, let's finish up.
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Danny. Can I say something? No.
No, I need to say something. Fine.
When you said that thing about my gambling karma, I think you're going to get the ball tonight. Like, it's been in my head, and I think you're going to get it.
I do. I think you're going to get it.
My Who's Back of the Week is just classlessness from, like, what Big Cat's showing right now. Whoa, I think I think you're going to get it.
Classlessness from the city of Philadelphia on Friday, Giannis. Dude, you're lashing out.
Did you guys see the story? Yeah, I did. You are in one of your little moods.
I knew it when you sat down. I am not from Philadelphia.
I did not choose to not let Giannis, one of the best players in the league, take some fucking free throws after the game. Every player should be able to do that.
Joel Embiid does it on the road all the time. So for some reason...
You have to request to do it. He did not request to do it.
Is there like an MVP did not request to do it. Is there like an MVP? Like you've won an MVP.
You're one of the best players in the league. You should probably be able to do whatever you want.
I mean, you're talking about Philadelphia who tried to starve the Houston Astros. Right.
There was a worker there who was paid to do his job. His job was to change the courts after the game, not to wait around for Giannis to get his little free throws in because he missed 11 free throws and blew the game against the Sixers.
And he went on a temper tantrum, and God forbid there was somebody underneath that ladder when he threw it to the ground. Yeah, could have hurt someone.
Max, let's remember that when Giannis practices free throws, he probably takes the full 11 seconds in between each one. So it's probably adding an extra 45 minutes to this guy's night.
I just love that Max came locked and loaded with the facts. Oh, yeah.
I mean, I was very into this story. I was very into this story.
For people who didn't see, Giannis was trying to shoot his free throws after the game, and there was a guy trying to take down the hoop with a ladder, and Giannis was literally pushing the ladder out of the way as the poor worker depending on which side you're thinking about. Well, I mean, if you're telling me that was Joel Embiid, like they're not going to let him shoot the free throws? Well, it's your court.
Yeah. It's your court.
Montrezl Harrell went and took the ball from him. No, this guy's got a family to get home to.
Wrong. Wrong.
No, that's correct. Not the NBA's court.
No, belongs to the 76ers. It's a brotherhood.
It's a family. All the rules apply to all the different places.
NBA does it all the time on the road. That's why I don't get where it's like Philly people are just like.
I looked into it. You have to request.
You have to request before the game. I looked into it, Hank.
If you want to work out after the game at the court, you have to make a request before the game. Giannis did not make the request.
Also, the basket. We need this clipped.
I need this social clip. The basket on the other end of the court had already been taken down.
So it was like they were waiting for that was the last thing to do. They're trying to change it to the ice, Hank.
Max, what kind of research did you do when you said that you looked into it? So many tweets. For the Barstool Invitational, same venue, they ripped apart the court immediately after the buzzer.
Yeah. I went to pack myself up after going to the bathroom after the buzzer and the hoops were down, the center court sticker was gone.
Yeah. They want to go home.
Yeah, so Hank, just because Giannis says that all these other people need to stay around and work until I don don't know, 1, 2 a.m. when they've got a family to get home to, you don't sympathize with those workers? No, the guy's going to get some fritos up.
No, Hank hates the blue-collar workers. It is sad.
That's fine. Hank, what if after we- As a suit, Hank has shown nothing but contempt for the common man.
What would you do if after we finished recording tonight, I was like, wait, Hank, stay here. I want to practice my ads.
Well, you would roll your eyes at me. No, two days ago, you were like, Hank, stay here.
I'm going to fucking pull the lottery ball machine 12 times. That was awesome.
You could have left. It's my lottery ball machine.
It needs to stay warm. It's like a car.
It's wintertime, Hank. Make sure you look after your automobile.
Right. So, yeah.
I mean, I didn't care for it, but it is what it is. This didn't go the way you thought it would? No.
I mean, I don't. Listen, people are going to come at me and say I'm being a hater, but I'm just bringing light to the people.
I don't think anyone's going to say you're a hater. No.
Absolutely not. My other who's back of the week is just goats.
Messi and Ronaldo took a picture together. Those guys are very handsome.
They're're attractive They were playing chess in the picture Fun fact about that chess match On a Louis Vuitton bag I think Fun fact about that chess match that they were playing in That board is the exact same setup as Argo Magnus Carlsen in his legendary match against Hikaru With the butt plug? No different but this one was the non-Adelbeads one. Got it.
Because Ronaldo definitely would have been the one that had the accoutrement. Yes.
Messi probably won that match. Yes.
Yeah. I think he did.
Yeah, looking at it. This is a legacy cup for Messi.
Yeah, I bet on him. For sure.
I bet on Argentina, which means they will probably not make it on the group stage. Oh, they will.
We're going to have a big World Cup preview

with Taylor Trollman on Wednesday's show.

So get ready for that. PFT, your

who's back. My who's back of the week,

I got a couple of them. First one is Joe Flacco.

We talked about him earlier today. This tweet

just came across my desk.

Stephen A. Smith said,

I can't believe I'm saying this, but if I were

the New York Jets, I'd actually bring in

Joe Flacco right now. Zach Wilson is giving you nothing.
I'm not giving up on the kid, but this is too important. Bring in Flacco.
It feels like he's giving up on him. He's giving up on him.
So Stephen A. Smith agrees with me.
Another great football mind. So, yes, bring in Joe Flacco.
My other who's back is also the World Cup. We had the first game today.
But most importantly, the pageantry ahead of the World Cup and the opening ceremonies highlighted by FIFA's president Gianni Infantino gave a great speech. He said, today, I feel Qatari.
Today, I feel Arab. Today, I feel African.
Today, I feel gay. Today, I feel disabled.
Today, I feel a migrant worker. Wow.
It was very Michael Scott-like, the way that he chose to address this. Okay.
Didn't really do anything besides just make everybody around him super uncomfortable. Yeah.
And everyone was like, what are you doing, man? What are you doing? And then they had the opening ceremony where they introduced the mascot, who's just a giant white sheet that floats around everywhere like a ghost. That's cool.
That was kind of cool.

They had the opening, the induction ceremony.

And I didn't realize this, but MBS from Saudi Arabia, our guy,

he was hanging out right there on stage next to the head of FIFA.

And then, yeah, then it turns out that Qatar got their ass kicked 2-0.

Yeah.

I mean, that's quite a statement to give.

And USA plays today. And USA plays today.
You're going down, Wales. Coming home.
Gareth Bale, you'll want this. Don't start nothing.
There won't be nothing. Will you say something? I thought you clicked in.
All right, my who's back is college football chaos figuring itself out. I know we talk about college football on Wednesdays, but what a Saturday.
And the story of the day was Tennessee fans, who I feel bad for because they have always been kind to me with the Duggs era. But they spent the majority of the day expecting TCU to lose.
TCU did not lose. Then spent the middle period of the day saying TCU sucks.
And they would get blown out by by everyone and then they got blown out by South Carolina. And it's just a tale as old as time.
The college football, the chaos. It's not always Tennessee.
It's someone else. Just when you think that you got it all figured out, something like that happens, and that's why it's the best sport.
It does figure itself out. It's crazy.
Tessie's defense stunk. Oh, my was on it was like a joke how bad they were spencer rattler looked like spencer rattler that we all have dreamed of yeah so but yeah now again in my uh my projected draft order i've got spencer rattler number one and bo nicks number two yeah next year as we've all expected yeah it was uh it was a crazy day the ucla usc game was fucking fucking awesome.
Caleb Williams is insanely good. Insanely good.
I saw some people saying, like, why are we talking about this next year's draft? Why aren't we talking about the year after with Caleb Williams? Yeah. This was a game where I saw, I think it was 76.5 as the over-under.
And I was like, yeah, that's a big number, but that's such a big number that I have to take the over. And then it ended up getting, what, 93 points in that game? Yeah, it was crazy.
It was insane. It was awesome.
It was insane. Sucks what happened to Hindenhooker at the end of that game.
That was tough to watch. Yeah, that really did suck.
Because he's been awesome this year. And he probably would have been like a fifth rounder last year.
And now it looked like he was going to get up until like second, maybe first round this year. But now he gets hurt.
It stinks. And it like tennessee would have you know they beat vandy next week they're in a new year's six bowl now you don't know if you can beat vandy joe milton just throws the ball 10 000 miles an hour on every pass yeah and also i mean vandy beat florida yeah so vandy's kind of back stinks for florida he's kind of back um okay that's hank's pick right anthony richardson yeah that would but you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna back up my boy hank in a rare case here uh the the victory lap that he got to do after week one was worth it because that was awesome when it was like i got him at 25 to what was it 250 to one i think it was like 25 to 19 no no that's what i went from oh yeah right and you're like look at this sharp that's that's no one's good at gambling that's no.
That's what I went from. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right. And you were like, look at this.

Sharp.

That's, that's.

No one's good at gambling.

That's the fun.

That's being like, wow, I got value.

All right, Billy.

My who's back is Chad Kelly and Sean Oakman.

Yes. The Toronto Argonauts are your CFL champions.

All right.

That's them.

I gave it out as a pick.

No big deal. Argonauts plus the points.
How drunk do you think Swag Kelly's getting tonight? He's crying currently. Keep him away from the vacuum cleaners.
He got very emotional. But crazy story.
McLeod Bethel Thompson, the starting quarterback for the Toronto Argonauts, hurt his hand in the fourth quarter and Chad Kelly got in the game, went 4-for-6 for 43 yards and two rushes for 21 yards, and mounted a game-winning drive where A.J. Alouette ran in the touchdown.
But Chad Kelly getting in the end of the game in the fourth quarter to win a championship, that's something that was on your scoreboard. I love the CFL.
This game was 4-0 at one point, which is awesome. Yeah.
Like, it just – and it always looks so fucking cold, and everyone's so hyped up. So congrats to the Argonauts.
Twelve guys on the field on each side and three downs. Yeah.
Wow. And if you kick a field goal and miss it but don't get it out of the end zone, it's a rouge.
Yeah, rouge. That's how it became 4-0.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

So this was Rob Ford's favorite team, right?

It was.

So Rob Ford, you have to imagine looking down from heaven

and seeing Swag Kelly.

He would have loved Swag.

He would have loved Swag.

Rob Ford is the Toronto Argonauts Harambe.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's a good point.

He's just up there smoking crap.

I was going to say that Rob Ford's also the swag Kelly of mares.

Yeah, he is.

It really was a touching ending.

Perfect team.

Sean Oakman.

I mean, both those guys, very different types of adversity,

but crazy to see them winning a championship on a Sunday.

Very cool.

Very cool.

Jake.

My who's back is coin tosses.

We had an interesting story out of the FCS world over the weekend.

The bracket just came out, and there was a tie in first place of the Ohio Valley Conference. Okay.
Tennessee, Martin, and Southeast Missouri State were with a 5-0. They went down the whole list of tiebreakers.
They were all even. They had to do a live stream coin toss on Twitter to determine who got the bid and Southeast Missouri State won.
Was it Tails? That's awesome. No, Tails failed.
They called Tails. Oh, no.
I don't know who got to call it, but they did a Twitter live stream for a coin toss. You got to go best out of three.
Who could go into the tournament. That's such horse shit that Tails lost.
Coin rigged. That would suck so bad.
What was it, Ohio Valley? Ohio Valley rigged. You know, that's an NFL tiebreaker.
It's step 12. Yeah.
That's also a Big Ten tiebreaker. Oh, yeah.
The Big Ten. If it was like the NFL draft, which happens every year, right? It was Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan.
If they had like done the three way and they all finished the same record, it would have been a coin toss. See who goes to Indy.
Can you imagine what it would be like if like to determine playoff seating or whether or not you make the playoffs, they have a coin toss for it?

You could probably sell out a basketball arena or even a stadium.

Sell out the stadium just for the coin toss.

Yeah.

That would be incredible.

Pay-per-view coin toss.

Could you imagine an NFL, like step 12?

That would be so sick.

I'd watch that.

Usually we get to step four or five.

I bet on that.

I bet on the coin toss. So did Rob Ford.
Yeah. Okay.
Numbers. 16.
17. Oh.
Let's go 15 for Anthony Richardson. Hank, have you ever gotten this? Nope.
Can you give me a number, please? He said 15 No. For me.
No. Come on.
No. Just one number.
I've had enough of your shenanigans today. And after what you did last Thursday, absolutely not.
One number. No.
Give me a number. No.
What's your birthday? You don't remember. June.
June. June.
16th or 17th. 16th.
Who's who's to know all right i'll go 16 well 17's already taken wait i'm gonna log into our hr system well no i'll find it okay all right because i remember last year the papadita day was on a sunday night so i'll just go to june 2021 nice that's whatever that text clues whatever that sund is, which was June 13th. June 13th.
Wow. Fuck.
I knew that. We need Elon to bring...
Guys shouldn't know each other's birthdays. Yeah, but we used to know him because of Facebook.
Shut up about yours. It's birthday week, Hank.
Exactly. What do you want us to do? All right.
Well, we've gotten it robbed from us because it's not Super Bowl week anymore. So you won't hear about it anymore.
It's true. All right.
So I took 17. I have 13 for Hank's birthday.
69. 18.
What's yours? 15? 15. Anthony Richardson.
17 just came up, right? Yeah. But we've had a lot of repeat.
What is it? What's yours? 20.

Elon Musk, bring the birthdays to Twitter because I don't know anyone's

birthday after Facebook. It is on Twitter.

I know, but I want the alerts.

Everyone's picking low numbers.

Hank, you can take 13. You can take your birthday.

I'll do something higher. I'm good.

You sure you don't want 13? Last chance.

Yeah, I mean, I had the chance to say it. I didn't.

I know, but I'm giving you a chance right now to take 13. Would you want 17 instead? I'll go high.
I'll go high, too. You get to pick.
13, 15, or 17. Which one would you like? Oh, fuck.
What if we give you both 13 and 17? No, no, no. Deal, deal, deal.
No, no, no, deal no. I said what if.
No. I never said I'd do it.

Would you like 13, 15, or 17?

I'm going to start writing down my numbers.

You get to pick. 13, 15, or

17. Which one do you want? 15.
15, okay.

Hope you're right.

I'm going to take 17.

I'm going to stick with 13.

64. Oh, two out of three

This shit is easy

Oh my god

This shit is easy

Wait, that's back to back

Because we did two on Friday

Yeah, we did do two on Friday

It's not back to back

It's been back to back shows

Which one was 64?

And they also diluted everything

By pulling 97 practice ones

I'm sorry. We did do two on Friday.
It's not back-to-back. It's been back-to-back shows.
Which one was 64? And they also diluted everything by pulling 97 practice ones. Did we do back-to-back in the end? No, the second one was in the beginning.
Yeah, the first one I have written down is 64. So it's two out of three.
Did we go in order on Thursday? Figure it out, Jake. Either way.
So tell us what's the last six numbers. There's four numbers left.
No, no, but what's the last six numbers they pulled from the machine? Let's go seven. Let's go nine.
Nine. Okay, give me the last nine.
44, 44, 12, 12, 45, 31, 64, 33, 64. Wow.
I'm telling you, this machine is... You can read this machine.

The last nine drawings, there's been six numbers. You want one more, Hank? You want one more?

No, I want one.

Alright, this one won't count.

64 is now in second place.

This does not count.

This does not count. This does not count.

This does not count. No one gets a number.

We'll see everyone on Wednesday.

Extra long episode for Thanksgiving.

40, 30. Look, you're fine.
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One more. Love you guys.
Bison walk towards snowstorms instead of away from them because it's shorter to get through. You would have heard this last week.
But Max played the music over.

Oh, that's 17 backwards. That's crazy.

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