TCU HC Sonny Dykes, NFL Week 9 Picks And Preview + Dan Snyder is Done!

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have TCU head coach Sonny Dykes, the undefeated TCU Horned Frogs. Great talk with him, ton of connections with him, and we talked about his old days under Mike Leach, hanging out with Dana Holgerson, creating fake plays for the other team, talking offensive football.
We're going to do NFL picks and preview. We have to record early because we're going to Chicago for an ad up front.
So we're going to give some choose-your-own-adventure on the big Houston versus Philly night. And then we will finish with Firefest and wrap up and send everyone into a football weekend.
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Okay, let's go. Boy! Boy! Now in the street there is violence And then a lot of stuff, work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue and then we'll take it higher oh we're gonna rock down to electric avenue presented by barstool sports welcome to part of my take presented by visible go to visible.com you get up to 250 gift card card and you can get wireless for as little as $30 a month taxes and fees included today is friday november 4th and the philadelphia phillies have gotten a hit we hope we hope we don't know we hope okay so let's just set the stage uh we are recording early every now and then we have to do this We're recording early.
We have to fly to Chicago for the ad up front. I'm heading to Keeneland after.
Hank, I think, is going to Boston. PFT's going around Chicago.
So we're recording early. It's one of the only times that we're recording early.
So we figured it's not a clinching game. We're going to record late if it was a clinching game.
But we're recording early, so we're choosing our own adventure. I am going to choose to say the Phillies finally got a hit.
Yeah, it's a clinching game if you're talking about Phillies fans' buttholes right now because they got owned last night. It was the second no-hitter in the history of the World Series.
They got face-fucked. Was it a face-fucking or was it a skull? It was...
They got shoved. I think it got...
I think it's the eye hole. I think you got it in your eye hole last night.
Don't mess with Mattress Mac. But the good thing about Philadelphia is if they get skull fucked, they're going to come out and most likely do the skull fucking.
They'll skull fuck you back. Max looks like he's about to cry.
Max legitimately looks like he's about to cry. No, that's just the cum coming out

of his eye from the skull fucking.

Dude, I'm rooting for Philly, but

that was bad, Max. That was bad.

And again, we... It was bad

for them the night before. Okay, so let's...

So it happens. It does.
Yeah.

That's right. To answer your question, I do think

that the Phillies come out and they win tonight. Okay.

I think they mash again. Alright, so here's...

Let's go around the predictions and you can add a little editorial to what you think happens in the game. Who's pitching tonight? Verlander's going to shove.
Verlander never wins. Wait, Syndergaard, the guy who used to be on the Mets? Yeah, he was good for the Mets.
Thor. He was good for the Mets.
The daddy of caller daddy. Yeah, he is.
He's the daddy. He's the original daddy.
I'm going to say Phillies, five, Astros, zero. They get no hit.
Oh, damn. Yeah, I just reversed it.
I reversed the no hitter on their ass. I think it's going to be a one hitter, Big Cat.
I think it's going to be a one hitter, and I think that it's going to be— We hit you, you hit the floor, that's a two-hitter. That's a two-hitter.
No, it's a four-hitter. You hit them, they hit nine, they hit one, they hit one again.
Yeah. Call the ambulance for Mattress Mac.
I think it's going to be—no, I think it's going to be Phillies 7. I think it's going to be a bit of a shootout.
Phillies 7, Astros— As baseball games are called. Yeah, they're going to light up the scoreboard.
Crooked numbers, as John Smoltz loved to say all the time. Like any time there's more than one run scored.
It's going to be up and down. He smashes the crooked number button.
I'm going with Philly 7, Astros 4. Okay, this is, by the way, we are setting ourselves up to be mean to death by Astros fans because they are.
I'm going to say something nice about Astros fans. Well, their team is really fucking good.
But I feel like they're a very strong online army. Nah.
You don't think so? Not compared to Philadelphia. No, no, no.
Philly's a real-life army. And online.
Yeah, but they're more real-life. Like, Astros fans, I feel like, would shake your hand in real life.
Like, if you the word cheat online. Yeah.
There are people. Yeah, no, Astros fans are searching for the word cheat.
So you almost have to do like the asterisk on the E if you want to talk about it. People are very mean to me online.
Wow. I'm sorry, Max.
Are people being mean to you, Max? Oh, people are very mean to me. No.
Oh, no. Not online.
Oh, my God. Not online.
The Phillies fans in real life, it's like Joseph Coney's army

because you get them started early.

There are like mean nine-year-olds out there that will attack you.

Yeah, those are my guys.

Those are my people.

Rest in peace.

You need to get everyone together.

Do we want Coney to RIP?

It's a callback.

Yeah.

Rest in peace.

No, that's right.

I forgot Hank's a big Coney stan.

You also were just saying happy birthday to Darren Sharper, right?

No.

Oh. Billy, your prediction.
He should be in the Hall of Fame. Okay, Peter King.
Give me like $20, Peter King. When the Phillies were going off two games ago and they were like 7-0, I was like, they're going to run out of hits for next game.
I swear to God, I was thinking it. But they didn't get that many hits.
LeBron football. But they were like.
They ran out home runs. Yeah, they were getting a ton of home runs.
But in my brain, I'm like, statistically, that's got to correct. That's LeBron calling the Kobe's 81-point game.
Yeah. Post mostly.
I know, but I didn't want to say it because we're all high on the Phillies, but I didn't want to be negative. So what's your prediction? So my prediction is Phillies are going to get hits.
Astros. How many hits do they have? Who? Astros.
How many did they have last night? Enough. More than enough.
One is more than enough when you get a no-hitter. I'm going to guess seven hits.
Probably more. It's going to be four, five.
Are you doing hits right now? No, no. Home runs.
It's going to be five, four, but I don't know who's going to win. Okay, good prediction, Billy.
Thank you. Jake, someone's got to take the Astros, but I think my guy in the suit over there.
Pitcher's Duel, 2-1 Philly. Oh, come on.
Take the Astros, Jake. Someone's got to take the Astros.
Five-four Astros. All right, thank you, Billy.
Thank you, Billy. So I like where Jake's going with this.
We don't want to get mean to death. Because Jake is implying that Verlander goes out there and throws objectively an awesome game, but the narrative continues that he still loses.
Yeah. And we get to keep calling him a choke.
Not a shootout. Verlander's going to stand on his head.
I mean, it's not a narrative after game one. That was abysmal.
Yeah. His teams are 1-8 in World Series games he pitches.
No, he's objectively bad. He's never won a World Series game.
His ERA is not good in the World Series. It's not like a narrative out of control.

He is bad, but it would be funny if he threw a one-hitter and they lost 1-0 on Dinger.

If we really want to laugh at future me,

I have Sports Equinox Parlay.

It's the last one of the year.

Last Sports Equinox.

Nice.

Sad.

Sunday, Game 7, they pushed it back.

Potentially.

Oh, yeah, you're right.

That's a good call, Jake.

Damn, Jake got you. Fucking Jake.
Bruins,agles phillies nuggets money line so i got the phillies i think it's gonna be to tomorrow i think it's gonna be uh eagles and phillies though i'm i'm riding high with philly i i believe i think it's gonna be i think varellian is gonna get I think it's going to be like another shitty game, like 6-2.

Okay.

And then, Max, are you taking the Astros?

You should.

I don't like that everyone on this.

Billy took the Astros.

Yeah, that's bad.

I would have taken the Astros, but I don't have a choice.

Billy took maybe the Astros.

Maybe.

He took 5-4.

No, Billy took the Astros.

5-4 in hits.

3-2 in game.

Something like that.

I want to say this.

Anyone calling this a no-hitter, it's not a no-hitter.

Well, they did get no-hits. How many hits did he have? But you can't count it as a no-hitter.
No, no, no, no. Max, I have a very simple question.
How many hits did the Phillies have last night? No, no, no. It's a one-word answer.
We can move on after you answer this question. Yes or no.
It was a hits. It was a hits.
I'm trying to reword this. No hitters is one pitcher.
No hitters is one pitcher. Let me help you.
Their dads hit the ball. Max, what you're trying to say is, and I agree with this take, a combined no hitter means less to me.
Yes. It means a lot less.
But it still is a no hitter. But if you're looking at your team's performance, they did not get any hits.
I'm looking at the box score, and the number that they use under the hit column is, in fact, zero. All right, we're going to win 18-3.
Schwarber's going to have three. I mean, Schwarber doesn't give a shit.
I don't give a shit. The boys are fine.
We're going to roll it over. It doesn't matter.
New day. New day.
18-3, Phil. Okay, so when everyone's listening to this on Friday morning.

It's going to be bad.

We're going to either be the biggest idiots or the smartest people in the world.

And then the Eagles are going to roll.

We agree.

Yeah, we agree on that one.

That was actually the original plan because we thought this was supposed to be the off day.

Monday fucked us because we're like, oh, we can tape early on a Thursday.

We were obviously going to tape if it was a clinching game. But you got – how many hits did you get last night? Well, last night we got 27 hits because we scored 18.
Oh, yeah, that's right. This is Friday's show.
Yeah, good point. Good point.
27 hits, 18 runs. That would be nice.
I want to take... Three walks.
Yeah, three walks.

That's true.

That's true.

Guys got on base.

Yeah.

You probably would have gotten hits if they hadn't walked.

The pitchers just, they were like, you know what?

Let's just get them on base.

Schwarber also hit a ball down the line, and I want to say like the fourth inning that I thought was a fair ball.

And if that's a fair ball, Brandon Marshall's on first.

He scores.

We win the game.

It was a foul ball.

Schwarber had great at-bats.

Yeah, Schwarber had great at-bats. Great at-bats.
It was a foul ball. Schwarber had great at bats.
Yeah, Schwarber had great at bats. Great at bats.
It's a game of inches. That ball's a little bit to the left.
It was a foul ball, Max. I know, but you're up one-nothing.
Max, this is loser talk right now. I know.
You got out of a big jam in the second inning. It's all right.
They won game five. They won game five, so we're good.
Sure. All right, so Eagles are going to win easy.
Most of us have the Phillies. Before we start talking about the NFL week nine preview, PFT, obviously big news for you.
Dan Snyder is going to finally maybe sell the team. It's not official official, but it feels very official.
I've talked to enough people behind the scenes to know that Dan Snyder is in fact going to sell the Washington Commanders.

Yesterday was, no joke, the second best sports day of my entire life.

I thought about it. As a DC sports fan, number one, capital Stanley Cup.

This is number two.

Snyder selling the team is number two.

The World Series was awesome and it was fun.

The Nationals had been a team since 2004, so it's not like I grew up going to the games every day. I still love the team.
The World Series is three. And then this is without a doubt number two.
I've been smiling all day. I popped champagne yesterday.
I'm thinking about the possibilities. It just feels like I can finally...
I'm free now. You are.
Genie, you're free to be able to root for a team with my whole heart and fuck Dan Snyder. I hope he goes to prison, which it looks like he might actually go to prison.
That would be sick. So what happened was the announcement came that he was talking to Bank of America and then about eight hours later, the announcement came out that the federal government was investigating him.
I'm sure that had nothing to do with each other. No, that's just a coincidence.
It was a coincidence, but Snyder, he said he was never going to sell. He is, in fact, selling the team.
I don't care who buys the team. It could be literally anyone.
They're probably better than Dan Snyder as an owner, so I'm finally super excited. You know I've been waiting for this moment.
Oh, yeah. I've talked about it incessantly, probably to the point where people are like, it's never going to happen.
You're Charlie Brown with the football again. But this time, it's actually going to happen, and I could not be happier.
I'm so fucking pumped. It's crazy that it happened that way, where it's like, I thought he would go to jail first, and then even in jail like a mafia boss still be running the team I would never he it felt like he was never going to lose grip of this fucking team and then to just see it just tweeted out like he's hired Bank of America they're going to sell the team it's like wait really for a while I was thinking that he was trying to both of us because because every report was like he's talking to Bofa.

He's talking to Bofa.

And if Snyder had actually done a press conference, I'd be like, yes, the rumors are true.

I am talking with Bofa.

Bofa D's nuts.

I'm never selling the team.

Fuck you.

I would have respected that. He so could do that.

I would have respected that, and I would have been like, touche, Dan.

And the thing is, I always thought that I would die before Dan Snyder. Yeah.
Because he's a billionaire. He's probably got that good money that would get him the 10X stuff and have his blood researched and all that.
And he would die at like 120. I would die at like 80.
Dan Snyder would still own the team. And I honestly thought I would never live to see a day where he was not the owner of the team.
And now it looks like it's going to happen. I am making an offer.
I'm about to call my relationship banker at Bank of America. I'm a preferred customer.
I'm going to offer my life savings. I'll match.
You want to match it? Yeah, I'll match. Okay, so we'll get the ball rolling.
Hank, you want to double? Who the fuck do you think I am? Yeah, of course. All right, so it's official.
Part of my take has made the first official offer to purchase the Washington Commanders for my life savings matched by Big Cat, doubled by Hank. Can I throw my 401k in there? Yes.
Yeah. Yes, you can.
I have a 401k from like three jobs ago that I forgot about. I do too.
I think there's like 15 grand in there. Yep.
I'll throw that in as well. I'll put all the money I put towards Top Shots.
Okay.

Oh, that's huge.

You can have everything.

I'll just relocate my account.

Your assets?

I'll sell my Xbox.

You will?

Yep.

I'll sell my Xbox One.

That's huge.

I will sell my ownership in the Green Bay Packers as well.

Okay.

No conflict of interest.

This is a lot we're offering.

Wait, wait.

Why don't we just borrow?

They can have my water dog steak.

Mine too.

Why don't we just borrow on those assets? We can. We can borrow everything.
Can we trade? Yeah, we can trade the water dog. I'll trade the water dog.
3% of the water dogs. I'll trade my Swansea.
I'll throw in the water dogs. The breakers.
Throw it all in. I'll throw it all in.
Yeah, we own a lot of stuff. I'm basically giving Dan Snyder three other teams to ruin.
That's a three for one trade. I actually.
It's like the one guy in fantasy who's like give me patrick mahomes and i'll give you like four i'll give you like uh cadarius tony and and a backup running back the meanest the meanest thing that you could ever do is to trade the new zealand breakers uh to dan snyder and then he goes and ruins their entire team yeah well that that's listen different time zone yeah that's true uh so it basically i'm i'm on cloud nine right now i could not be happier than i am and i'm i'm just super pumped and then i started to think about what the possible owners would be in the future people are talking about bezos get bezos in there i want bezos bezos would be an electric owner to have like one of the richest people in the world running a team and he would probably you probably could only use the bathroom like once a game if you went to it and you have like a supervisor making sure that you weren't taking extra breaks yep um the only thing i'm a little bit nervous about that i don't think i can do mental gymnastics to get around is what if like what if mbs and the live tour oh the soddy money comes in like newcastle and buys the team gotta do it you think you just gotta They might be better than Dan Snyder. Listen, Dan Snyder, to be fair, Dan Snyder hates the Washington Post exactly as much as MBS does.
Right. But he just doesn't have the balls to pull it off.
Right. So, I mean, I'm very, very happy for you.
It's incredible that it's finally happening. There is like a .001% of my brain that's still nervous that he's just going to be like, we've done the due diligence.
Like there's a stalling tactic. It's very small percent, but I don't want to see you get hurt again.
Where he's like, yeah, we did the paperwork. We went out to bid and nah.
You know what? Five billion isn't enough. So I'm going to keep it.
Right. That's what I was thinking.
Because he's such an evil fucking piece of shit. When they were talking about renaming the team a couple years ago, he put together a commission to study whether or not the name was offensive.
It would have been very funny if he had come back and been like, yeah, our commission found out the name's not offensive, so we're going to stick with Redskins. There's a possibility that whoever buys the team next could rebrand the name again, which is kind of funny.
Go back to football team. Go back to football team.
Football team was was the best. Or the Hogs or the Red Hogs.
Yeah. So it's just I'm excited for what the future has to offer.
And Dan Snyder's always been a piece of shit. I don't.
It's not a recent thing for anybody that's paid attention. No.
He got his money by scamming people that didn't speak English and forcing them to switch their long distance service. He's just a bad, bad human being, and I hope nothing but the worst things happen to him in his future.
Jail, bitch. I hope he dies in prison.
Yeah, jail, bitch. I hope he lives a long life in prison getting to watch how happy I am.
And, yeah, we're going to do a parade in D.C. when he sells the team.
We're going to take a lap around the beltway. I love it.
This is my Super Bowl love it. So I'm very – yeah, man, I haven't stopped smiling since yesterday morning.
It's awesome. It's awesome.
Freedom. Freedom.
You are William Wallace. You have freedom.
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Okay, week nine, boys. Halfway point.
We're week nine. Don't say that.
This slate sucks, but it doesn't because it's still football but if we're gonna judge it like there's they it was very clear before the season when you when you look at the um i think how it works is basically cbs and fox get a couple dates every year where they can uh have like only one other game in their time slot a a premier afternoon game. And before the season, they're like Rams-Bucks.
Week 9. Not realizing that both teams suck.
But we're going to do it week 9. Jake, what are the standings? We have a lot of movement.
We're really bad. We have a lot of movement.
Big Cat, you're still in first place at 16 and 16. Nice.
And then we have a three-way tie for second, third, and fourth. Hank is riding an 0-8 stretch right now.
Oh, no, Hank. Are you riding it? Oh, no.
Yeah, Hank, you just turned your mic on like you were going to say something. No? Okay.
So 16 and 16, Big Cat. Me, PFT are a little hot, so we're at 13 and 19 With Hank at 13 and 19 Billy at 12 and 20 And Max at 11 and 21 Wow Max went 0 and 4 We are bad So we've had an 0 and 4 every week We are bad Hank You're 0 and 8 In your last 8 I've been there Yeah So you can check out Hank's Sports Equinox parlay That he has Okay I can't wait until that fucking hits.
Well, my nuggets are going to bring it home. Yeah.
Okay, so let's do some picks. Let's talk about some games.
Let's preview the week. We'll start with favorites.
And Hank, you want to get us going, and we'll talk about every game and what we got going on? Yeah, I'm going to take the Green Bay Packers as my favorite oh wow the lions i bet i bet they're three and a half point favorites uh they are oh and five in their last five games in detroit which is kind of a surprising stat against the spread against the spread the lions are in every game i bet them every game they seem to be covering every game and then they lose like that has pretty much been the lions i feel like the last two years have been you bet them underdogs

i usually do they're winning the game you're like oh and usually by like 10 points like oh you know

they got this locked up and then in the fourth quarter they just collapse and lose by 10 right

and i've been i've been like thinking about it because it does feel like dan campbell um you

know the lion season started with a little bit of optimism playing fun games they are oh and four

in the I've been thinking about it because it does feel like Dan Campbell, the Lions season started with a little bit of optimism, playing fun games. They are 0-4 in their last four against the spread.
It feels like Dan Campbell could have at least hung his hat on being like, yeah, we covered the spread. We're very close every game.
They have not been very close every game recently. This game is basically, if the Packers have any chance of being a playoff team making a run they have to want like their offense has to look great against the lions on sunday i think the lions have been they've been competitive against the spread like they might they're not oh and four yeah but they're competitive against the close to you know i'm saying like like they are probably covering spreads in the fourth quarter yes like if there was a win probability, but it're competitive against the spread.
Close to it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they're close to it.
They are probably covering spreads in the fourth quarter. Yes.
If there was a win probability, but it was covering probability, in the fourth quarter, it's probably high, and then it just falls off a cliff. Extremely high.
That's the problem. With the exception of that Patriots game, the one against the Cowboys where it was 24-6, they should have covered that.
It was 10-6 going into the – yeah, they were going in. Their cover probability was like Atlanta Falcons.
That was like 28-3 collapse that they had. And against the Dolphins, they should have covered that game too.
I love them against the Packers. I think Aaron Rodgers, he's got COVID thumb.
Have you seen – like he's very upset about his thumb right now. He's like, my thumb's not getting any better.
It's getting worse, in fact. I think that this is like it's not a fluke that aaron rogers sucks right now um if he wants to this is a perfect excuse for him just be like yeah my thumb is extreme doctor said that he's never seen a worse thumb than mine yeah in my life so and and the the fact that the packers too like i it's hard for me to criticize because they've won for so long and they've been competitive for so long but but I know the Packers fans are so mad that they did nothing on the trade deadline.
Oh, yeah. Like that, and the Bears did take Chase Claypool from that.
Like that was the story that came out that basically the Packers were offering their second-round pick, and the Bears were like, all right, we'll give you ours instead of the Ravens. It's smart.
Like that's what the 49ers did with Christian McCaffrey too. If you find out that your division rival is going for a person, you can offer a little bit more because not only are you getting that player, but your opponent isn't getting that player.
Right, right. Packers also worst start since 2006.
And the last six times the Packers have gone three and five or worse since 1990, they've missed the playoffs. So this is the – like, if they win this game and they win it easily, I think we'll be sitting here on Monday being like, okay,

watch out for the Packers.

They can make a little run.

If they struggle here offensively against a really bad defense,

it's official that their offense is completely, completely broken.

Because it's been broken, but it's like, this is the get right spot.

I like the line straight up. Okay.
That's your favorite. Max, your favorite.
Bucks minus three. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
Stop it. That's not my pick, but that is going to be one of my picks.
I was making fun of you about the Bucks last week. They got it.
They have to. They have to win this game and the Rams stink.
Don't you think that McVay still has it in the back of his head every time he plays against Brady? Like, I want to beat the fuck out of this guy. Yeah, for sure.
I love the reports of McVay just running away once this current team goes away. The last dance.
That's bad sports coach. That's some bad juju going into this game.
That's fucked up. It's crazy because they both suck in almost the exact same way.
Their offensive lines are just both terrible. I think the Bucs' offensive line is slightly less terrible.
Do you know the Rams are on their fifth right guard? Yeah. Fifth.
Fifth right guard. They're on their third center and their fifth right right guard and their left tackle is is it still the backup or is it the third string i think it's the i think i i was looking at it last night i don't know if it's it was a tweet from maybe a week ago so it was their second left tackle their second left guard their third center their fifth right guard and still the same right tackle yeah i mean that's insane their fifth like are there five dudes that you can find i know that they've been switching around too so some guys have been like you start up somewhere else yeah you start to take like backup centers it's just it's insane the other stat i had this is we jake can you please remind me this because we always forget it the tom brady day versus night thing is very real.
And he is old. And so since he's gone to the Bucs, he's 22-12 against the spread at daytime.
And he's 2-11 against the spread at nighttime. So we got to just make sure we never bet on Tom Brady at night again.
So that means next week when we set the clocks back, that means that it's going to fuck him up real bad.'s gonna fuck so better this is the last week that you can bet on them before the clocks get set yes i what about morning because that's what they're going oh yeah oh germany's gonna be all yeah oh by the way a lot of people came up with a good idea oktoberfest oh oh that's good overfest i like that i this is not my pick but max i will be betting on the Bucs. I can't.
I am so pot committed now. And I was looking at it last night.
It's like, hey, you know the old drill tweet, like someone helped me with my finances, and it's like $10,000 for candles every month? Yep. It's like, why am I so bad at gambling? Oh, the Bucs are 0-6 in their last six against the spread.
There you go. Yeah, so that's why.
Because I keep fucking thinking I'm buying at the lowest and it keeps getting lower. They can't lose everyone.
But they could. Nah.
But they could because they have. They stink.
No. No.
Okay, PFT, your favorite. My favorite is the Rams.
No. Oh, sorry, the underdog is the Rams.
My favorite is going to be – I'm going to go with the Dolphins. Oh, okay.
I understand. No disrespect.
No, I mean the Bears' defense is very, very bad. I don't know how they're going to guard all those guys.
Two guys on two guys in this game. What? It's going to be a guy to and and justin fields yeah i listen i'm i'm very clear about what i i do not care about wins and losses right now as long as justin fields keeps looking i read a a long article about how they finally i think i alluded to this but they they admitted that they stole plays from the ravens like what took you so long and everything they're doing with with Justin Fields now has opened up like how he sees the field because he's a weapon running and they're actually using him as a weapon running.
Yeah. Are you allowed to double down on games or do they have to be all four different ones? People have doubled.
Okay. So I'll just say this is also going to be my over.
Yeah. It's my over and dolphins.
I think the dolphins are probably going to get the over by themselves 45 and a half um there is supposed to be a little weather but who the fuck cares i don't i don't think the bears could stop no i think that the bears offense will continue to to improve i think that big cat's going to get enough out of this game to be encouraged that's all i want and i think the defense is just going to get gashed the only um stat against the Dolphins, and this one makes sense, and also this is why we suck at gambling, teams off a 20-point loss are 66-48 against the spread, which makes sense because you see a team suck, and you're like, well, they suck forever, but usually they don't. The Raiders are in the same boat this week where they lost by more than 20 points, and you're like, they're dead.
They stink, yeah. And then, of course, they'll probably come back.
I just think this game is going to look a lot... Think about what happened last week with the Cowboys and the Bears.
This is going to be the same game, except worse, I think. Yeah.
Yeah. It definitely has that possibility.
As long as he plays well, though. I don't...
Everything else... Chase Claypool wearing Mitch's number kind of fucked up.
I thought we'd retire it, but that's OK. You know what you need? You need somebody find a connection between Chase Claypool and Justin Fields.
Well, there's and let me know, like what happened? Did they ever cross paths at the same like elite camp or something like that? There is the connection Cole Comet and Chase Claypool, both Notre Dame guys guys and there's a clip that's been in bears twitter where uh after the bears and steelers played monday night football last year they're like we got to find a way to link up okay that's good yeah pretty good that's a start i would like to see something like i don't know maybe justin fields and chase claypool like met each other when they were getting recruited yeah picture them on the sidelines of the sidelines of the game. Show me that there's some connection.
They might have played. I think Notre Dame lost to Clemson that year.
I don't think they played in a big playoff game against each other. But my memory is shit.
Okay, my favorite. I'm going to go with the Chargers minus three.
And I have an insane stat for you guys. atlanta against it against atlanta do you know that teams that play the panthers the next week they're oh and seven i did not the panthers beat the shit out of teams i did not the pan every team that's played the panthers the following week they lose their next game including including so much so the Rams played the Panthers in week six.

They had a bye week, and they still lost their next game, week eight.

What is it about the Panthers?

So the teams that beat the Panthers,

are they covering the spread against the Panthers before they lose?

Some are, yeah.

I mean, I don't think they've been horrendous against the spread,

but even the Browns week one beat the Panthers, and then week two, the crazy Jets game, the comeback. Yeah.
So no matter what, when you play the Panthers the following week, you lose. Either you get beaten up by them and you're still sore going to the next game, or they're just so bad that you think that this is what NFL football is like.
Yeah. And so then you lose that extra high gear.
It's a weird stat. I'm just going to – that's one of my favorite weird stats that clearly has no actual correlation.
It's just a random thing. But writing random stats is fun.
You beat Matt Rule and you're like, wow, the NFL is really easy. Every coach is like this.
And then nope. Also, Justin Herbert is incredible in Eastern and Central time zone.
i don't know what that's about but i just like time zone especially because we're changing the clocks next week yeah he's traveling though he's traveling you can always just say that somebody's traveling east yeah and that's the reason that you're not betting on them it's helpful to know when they are in fact good good traveling east yeah he's good at traveling east so and this game is going to be um it's it's a this was my second over that i was thinking about taking because the chargers suck against the run and the falcons suck against the pass so both teams should be able to score all day which means it probably go under yeah i have the under this one yeah okay all right uh billy your favorite i'm going vikings by three and a half over Washington. Come on, Billy.

Boo.

Look.

Boo.

I'm high on the Vikings.

I'm high on the Vikings.

This is the ultimate revenge game.

I know.

We got Kirk Cousins coming back.

Kevin O'Connell coming back.

Yeah, we got Hawkinson coming in.

Kirk Cousins never played for a team with a five-game winning streak.

Well, it doesn't matter.

They're on a five-game winning streak. I know.
It doesn't matter. So he's never had a six-game winning streak.
Well, it doesn't matter. They're on a five-game winning streak.

I know.

It doesn't matter.

So he's never had a six-game winning streak.

Right.

Right.

But guess what?

They got tape on Heineke now.

They're going to be able to dictate his movements.

There's no more surprises.

That's the thing about Heineke is it's all surprises.

Yeah, it is.

He surprises himself.

The entire playbook is a surprise.

Right.

I do have a stat that will back you up up billy if you're ready for this uh kirk cousins at fedex field in his career is 14 and 15 against the spread so yeah he's clearly gonna cover yeah because he has to go 15 and 15 against the spread that's the most kirk cousins thing ever it would be he's 14 and 15 going into this game the most kirk cousins thing ever would be exactly 500 against the spread. That's the most Kirk Cousins thing ever.
It would be. He's 14 and 15 going into this game.
The most Kirk Cousins thing ever would be exactly 500 against the spread. Yeah.
At FedEx. Counterpoint.
We're wearing our black uniforms to remind him of the night. Oh, hell yeah.
Counterpoint. So, no.
And also, we're wearing the black uniforms. And for the first time, I think, in the history of the team, we're doing a blackout where they're asking all the fans to wear black to a 1pm game which is that's usually a night time thing isn't it? Yeah we're doing it I think in the middle of the afternoon to remind Kirk Cousins of a prime time game I think so it's psychological warfare this is serious stuff Counterpoint new ownership means the coaching staff is probably all going to get fired guys are are working on their resumes, not watching tape.
He's not going to sell the team for like three years. Right, but still.
This shit takes a while. Well, our offer is in cash.
Yeah, that is true. So it's a clean transaction.
And stock in teams. Yes.
But it's still relatively clean. We don't need to borrow debt or anything.
I got a Roth IRA unfortunately in the camp that i i think the vikings are just going to keep winning games so that people just keep getting mad at us and uh knowing that we'll eventually it will pay off for us but we're gonna have to deal with vikings fans coming for our neck for a while that's fine yeah that's fine let let the band play neck i'm fine with that i i actually think that if if you just go off of what will make part my take look like the biggest idiots, which has generally been a good bet in the history of this podcast, the Vikings are probably going to smash the command. Smash them, yeah.
And Kirk's going to have the game of his life, and then I'm going to miss him because I do secretly miss having Kirk Cousins when you look at the other stuff I put up with. It's going to be—I think it's not a bad bet to bet on the Vikings this weekend.
I'll be honest with you. Vikings fan, let it be known that I am pro-Vikings.
Oh, yeah. I've been back in the Vikings.
Well, that's because Kirk Cousins, you look like him. No, Billy just digs Norse mythology.
No, I just like Culver's. Oh, okay.
Yeah. Cool.
You could be a Packer fan then, too. Yeah, same thing.
A Bears fan? Well, Culver's is like, I've only. Yeah, it's not the only one.
Okay. Billy does, in fact, listen to Viking chants in the car when he's driving places.
Yeah. That's kind of cool.
Okay, Jake, your favorite. I'm taking the New England Patriots.
Minus five and a half at home against the Indianapolis Colts. Sam Ellinger's first road start.
Belichick is just going to – this is going to be one of those games

where it's like Belichick still has his fastball.

The flake-gate revenge game.

The flake-gate revenge game.

The rivalry is back on.

He is 14-0 straight up against rookie QBs at home.

Yeah, I think it – I don't know if Patriots will be able to score,

but I could see like a 20-6 game.

I agree with that stat.

I am counting Ellinger as a rookie QB.

Yeah.

He's a first-year quarterback. Yeah, he is is his first.
He didn't start last year. So this is, yeah, I mean, Billy just keeps getting into these one-on-one, put-my-reputation-on-the-line type games.
Now you're going up against Hank. It's big.
Two weeks in a row. They're not going to, but if the Colts did somehow miraculously win this game, you've got to write a blog redrafting that draft class and just put Sam Ellinger first.
Oh, yeah. I can't believe so many people didn't put Ellinger even in any of those conversations.
I saw one of them, David Carr. A lot of them are just, they just redraft the first round.
That's why. David Carr had him higher than Mac Jones.
Really? And I got mad. You got mad.
Yeah. But I'm saying if the Colts win, you got to put them first.
Yeah. I think if the Colts win, you got to count this as a Jets win over the Patriots.
Oh, 100%. Yeah.
But on the other hand, Hank could go on a little two-game winning streak of defeating all your favorite quarterbacks. Yeah.
Honestly, I actually watched a tape from Sam Ellinger, like play-by-play every snap he took, and he looked amazing. Really? Amazing? No, the way he was able to scramble and hit guys in stride.
Amazing is a big word, though. I think the word you're looking for is he looked better than the Jets.
No, but the final drive, he hit two guys in stride, and one of them dropped him and could have won the game if it wasn't for a drop. He's a gamer, bro.
A gamer. He's like what you think Heineke is.
Oh, don't even start with that. He is what you think Heineke is.
Remind me, because I think those two quarterbacks have played recently. Who won? Right, but, you know.
Oh, yeah, that's right. It was six days ago.
It was a point difference, and there was different variables. Yeah, listen.
I'm just saying, like, don't besmirch Taylor Heine. He didn't do anything to you.
I know. I actually think he's chill as fuck.
Yeah, he is chill as fuck. All right, your favorite underdog, Hank.
Left hand up. Yeah, commanders.
I almost did the commanders, but that Kirk Cousins stat scared me off because he is the most 500 quarterback of all time. Yeah, he's just going to come in and beat me.
I just know that. No, but the Kirk Cousins stat that he's never had a five-game winning streak, he's just going to revert.
Yeah, that's true. And it's like there's the interim coach effect in football, more college football, but interim owner? How many times does that happen? You keep saying interim.
Interim. Interim.
Interim. Wait, Hank, do you know? There's another I in there.
It's interim. Interim.
What did you say? Interim? Interimally? Interim. Yeah.
We do have to hire an interim this summer. I like interim better, actually.
Intern Billy. Tom Brady never had an 18 winning streak, and then he never got 19.
So I understand the same concept. Yeah, that's a good point.
Got him. Also, wasn't there a stretch that they won? Like 23, actually, I think.
I think they won 22. Because I think they won a Super Bowl.

2003, 2004, I think they won like 23 games in a row.

Not in the same season.

If I had to guess.

In-season streaks.

In-season streaks, okay.

No one's ever had a 24-game in-season winning streak.

Yeah.

Think about that.

But no, wait.

If you're talking about in-season, then you can't count the postseason.

You have to roll over to the next regular season.

Yeah, 23 in a row.

And one's got 21 in a row.

And one's 18 in a row.

Oh, Jesus.

Thank you. Wait, if you're talking about in-season, then you can't count the postseason.
You have to roll over to the next regular season.

Yeah, 23 in a row.

And one's got 21 in a row.

And one's 18 in a row.

Oh, Jesus.

Must be nice.

Okay, so you have the Commanders. Got them, though.

Picard, imagine that.

Well, never 19 in a row.

Over the last 10 years of your life.

Twice.

The Bears had three winning streaks, separate winning streaks, of over 16 games.

23 games in a row.

23 happy Sundays in a row. That's stupid.
That's insane. That is insane.
Max, your favorite underdog. Seahawks plus two against the Cardinals.
I'm on that with you. One and a half.
I hate the Cardinals. The Seahawks might actually just be good.
Gino Smith, Offensive Player of the Month for the NFC. They are.
are wait the colts have the longest with 23 oh patriots have 21 so it's patriots yeah all right revenge game the 21 was 2003 2004 um the seahawks my bad i you know we don't do nerd stats on this show but dvoa which i never understand but i know it means something the seahawks and the Bills are the only two teams with top 11 offense defense and special teams DVOA they might actually just be good DVOA is one of those stats that I also don't know what goes into it but I know that only smart people use it and know what they're talking about and I completely throw it out there and don't pay attention to it unless it's like they're number one or number two right and so I agree I think the Seahawks are actually just a good football team and I uh I think that the Cardinals are just an extremely stupid football team they suck I think they're stupid it's so clear that Cliff Kingsbury is getting fired I mean with the minute that Kyler Murray yelled at him on the sideline like I don I don't know. I know they'll say, like, oh, that's just football.
We're just angry. We both want to win.
Yeah. Doesn't feel that way.
Okay, PFT, your favorite underdog. The Lions? I do like the Lions.
I'm taking them straight up, but I didn't have them. I have the Jets, actually.
Ooh. I have the Jets in this one.
I like this. It's a lot of points.
They're at home. Billy endorses it.
Yeah, they're at home. Yeah, they're at home.
12 and a half? Secondaries, shot. Yeah, where are we at, Jake? 12 and a half.
Bills? 12 and a half against the Bills. Do you think Zach Wilson will be taking advantage of that? So, Zach Wilson, I mean, Josh Allen commented that in his second year, he threw three picks against the Patriots, and that's when he really got it together.
I think this might be that next step. And total trap game.
Yeah, it's a trap game. I agree with that.
I love how most of Billy's stats about Zach Wilson for the last two years have been like, well, he just threw four interceptions last week, so he probably won't do that again this week. Well, basically his problem was he was getting bored of throwing the ball away.
That's why he threw all those picks yes true so i don't seriously i don't think he'll get thrown to check downs he's not going to be as bored this week when you're getting when you're getting rushed like that he just basically he needs to work on being a game manager because he can be a playmaker as he showed in the last game here's why i think the jets showed that in the patriots game yeah did you see that? He threw two touchdowns. He threw more touchdowns than Mac Jones.
Right. The Jets scored more touchdowns than the Patriots.
Do you, where are you at though with him overall? Because I do think like the Jets are a good football team and it does feel like Zach Wilson's the one holding them back. He just, it's, it's a basically bro.
Like I know it's boring. Wait, this is it.
Wait, wait, hold on. This is bro to bro.
Yeah. Do this is a bro to bro speech.
Billy football, Bro basically bro. I know it's boring.
Wait, wait, hold on.

This is bro to bro.

This is a bro to bro speech.

Billy football to Zach Wilson.

All right, go.

Bro, 23-year-old in the workforce.

Don't look at me, Billy.

You're talking to Zach Wilson.

Look at the camera.

23-year-old in the workforce.

Sometimes not everything's going to come fast.

You've got to be patient.

And we are making mistakes together. And know 23 year olds in the workforce sometimes bro bro bro gotta be patient sometimes you still got to eat the hot sauce you know one day maybe you won't have to eat the hot sauce but right now you got to eat the hot sauce and throw the ball away it sucks i just want to bet that was that was a very very good speech.
We'll call it in the workforce. I don't know.
In the workforce. I don't know where the bro in the workforce.
And Billy, if you wanted to make this speech in person to Zach on Sunday, you could use the GameTime app. Oh! $180 for Bill's Jets.
Wow. That's something to think about if you want to get in the locker room and make that speech.
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I didn't say it. He didn't say it.
He said he was going to. I was going to.
You did say it, though. No, he didn't.
You did say it. Wait, Hank said it? No, he said he was going to.
He didn't say it. I didn't say it.
Hank was going to say it. No, but the words came out of his mouth.
Oh, so it's like a difference between a no-hitter and just not getting any hits. Doesn't count.
Yeah. No-hitters don't count.
All right, so yeah, so then Hank saying it doesn't count. Okay, so what does Zach Wilson have to do this game for you to – you're not even out on him.
No. Well, you kind of are because you're in on Sam.
No, I'm not. You said you'd rather have Sam.
I think he could actually take big steps this game. You said that you'd rather have Sam.
It's the big step game? Well, because he kind of made big steps last game by making big throws

and creating plays.

Now he just needs to figure out the balance of trying to make big plays

and also trying to be a game manager.

And reading the hot sauce.

Like, he's the complete opposite of Matt Jones.

Wait, so which one is he supposed to do?

He's got to find the balance.

Billy, you're – listen, I've been through the guy thing a long time,

but when you have to bash other guys to prop up your guy, it's never –

I know, I know.

It doesn't really help your argument.

We'll see you next time. Listen, I've been through the guy thing a long time, but when you have to bash other guys to prop up your guy, it doesn't really help your argument.
Like, well, Mac Jones stinks. That doesn't make Zach Wilson good.
I wrote about this in my blog. The thing is, quarterbacks with great arms and who are able to make great plays, it's hard for them to be game managers.
But that is a way better problem than a game manager who can't make plays. The guy is so capable of throwing absolute bombs and dimes that when he can't and has to make the start decision and not make a gigantic play.
You can't cage a songbird. Yeah, you can't.
But he needs to figure out. It's like training a dog instead of putting a dog in a cage.
He's got to to know when to come back. Okay.
There's a lot of stuff said about Zach Wilson there that I don't. All I'm going to say is knowing how you need to be managed at work and how you just tried to manage Zach Wilson, he's going to be pissed at you because you're telling him to do two different things right now.
No, I'm telling him to do like go make the big plays, but just. Also, don't make the bad plays.
Which one do you want, Billy? Billy, this actually is a good strategy. I sent a message to Ryan Poles, the Bears GM.
I said, in the upcoming draft, it's very important. Do not draft any of the bad players.
Just like when you have to throw the ball away. Right.
Don't do the bad plays. In the second half, I know it's going to get boring.
Jobs are boring sometimes. Just do the easy thing.
What do you do when you get bored at work? I stand up and I walk around. And he says, Big Cat, can you do this TikTok real quick? Yeah.
No, that's actually my job. So maybe Zach needs to just pace the sidelines more frequently.
Just throw the ball away. Just live to fight another day.
Read some George Washington tactics. Right.
It's simple. Tactically retreat.
No bad plays, Zach. Let the punter punt the ball.
You have a great defense. Let that do it.
This isn't BYU. This isn't the Pac-12.
That's not BYU. I don't even know.
When you're playing Pac-12 teams and they're just putting up tons of points like not every drive is going to be five plays 80 yards a punt is a good result yeah to a drive okay so I but the real reason why I like the Jets is that I think that the Jets defense is really really talented especially I think they can get their front four can get to Josh Allen a little bit heat him up just a little because if you sit back and you play like, you know, if you blitz people, Josh Allen is going to just like carve you up. Also, last point, the Bills did lose to the Jaguars last year.
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
So it happened. So it happened.
One team lost to another team at one point. Now your coping strategy is like, they lost to a really historically shitty team last year,

so we might have a chance.

Right.

And also Zach Wilson's better than Mac Jones.

And Trevor Lawrence.

And Trevor Lawrence.

And you want to say Justin Fields?

Go ahead.

I think he has a better arm than Justin Fields.

Okay.

All right. So the real answer is I think that the Jets defense is going to be good enough to limit

Josh Allen to not blowing them out as badly as some people think that they're going to

get blown out.

Does having a good arm, is that a good thing when you just throw it to the other team?

Well, it's a bad thing because... enough to limit Josh Allen to not blowing them out as badly as some people think that they're going to get blown out.

Does having a good arm, is that a good thing when you just throw it to the other team?

Well, it's a bad thing because you know you can do certain things.

Right.

It makes you not be a game manager. So it's really Zach Wilson.

It's not his fault.

He's just better than the job.

He's just so good.

He's overqualified.

Yeah, he's so good.

He's overqualified for his job.

Seriously.

It's like he's so talented.

Yeah.

He's so talented that he doesn't. I got it.
People with less talented arms work on being game managers. Yeah, no.
Because they can't do what he does. He's so.
He's almost. They need to create a new football league.
A better football league that he could play in because he's too good for the NFL. The Jets need more like entry level quarterbacks.
Yeah. That can grow with a position.
Yeah. They don't need to go out there headhunting.
Okay, so you guys both have the Jets. I have the Cardinals.
Jake, that was a great analysis. You have the Seahawks? Oh, Seahawks.
Sorry, sorry. I'm with Hank, so we're all paired up.
I have the Commanders plus three and a half. Wow.
The Vikings. Could be paying together.
This is the cherry on top for a great week for PFT. Okay.
I think there's riding that momentum. I am a little bit concerned because the last two days have been so incredible.
That's something bad is about. Yeah.
But right now it's like, you know, I've never had a three day winning streak in my life. Yeah.
And, but maybe I can get four. Yeah.
We're all together. Okay.
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Okay, overs. Hank, give it to us.
He's finding it right now? No, I just... Well, yeah, yes.
I have one last Jets bill. Okay, great.
I think Josh Allen's going to get beat up by the Jets-D. I don't think he's going to be able to manage.
I think the Jets defense might be able to heat him up. Yeah, that's a good point.
Thank you. I was first to make that point.
Sometimes when you try to blitz Josh Allen, have you noticed he'll carve up a blitz? Yeah. But if you can get to him with your front four, I think that's the key, and I think the Jets defense is good enough they can up yep i agree billy do you agree i think they're gonna beat him it's good no they're gonna heat him up like a microwave and then they're gonna eat him up okay nice and eat and beat and beat all right oh and eight the last eight fading myself wait you haven't hit an I mean, the overs have just not hit in the NFL.

I'm 0-8 in my last eight picks total.

Wait, are you talking about your lottery machine picks,

or are you talking about?

No, we're talking about the subject we're talking about.

Oh, it's both.

It's both.

Okay.

Over 42.5 Rams-Bucks.

It's disgusting.

It's gross.

I don't think it's going to be good.

Brady's not good. Big Cat is.

I just want to have a rooting interest during this game when I'm watching with Big Cat. Usually, I know sometimes we go on different sides and that just happens naturally, but usually I try to stay away from deliberately picking against them.
Sometimes it just happens. I have no remorse with the Bucs.
No, I do not deserve any remorse.

At rock bottom, you are in a place where it's bad.

You need help.

You need to talk to someone because you just can't see.

You're blinded by the Bucs.

I know.

I know.

You know what it is?

It's not even Brady.

It's their defense. I think that their defense is really good, and they're just not.

Yeah, no, I deserve no remorse, no pity. It's all my own doing.
It's a completely self-inflicted wound. I think you bet on the Bucs just so that you can yell at Stephen.
That's it. Yeah, there's that.
It's basically you're buying yourself a ticket to the show of just screaming at Stephen. Well, and also, everyone knows this.
Anyone who's gambled once in their life knows that once you get committed to something, I know that if I took the Rams in this game, the Bucs will win. That is just a stone-cold lock.
Oh, Hank. Wait, Hank.
Oh, you got sneezes everywhere. Hank's sneezing into a piece of paper.
You guys okay over there? You heard it? What paper was that that you just sneezed into? It's the computer paper. I've never seen that.
I wasn't going to fucking sneeze on this nice-ass tracksuit. Wait, you sneezed onto your picks? You could.
No, this is... Week eight.
Week seven. Oh, this is from Planet Football.
Oh, okay. Which is out now.
What did the booger touch? Burrow and Bengals are going to need PJ after he suffers a burned sack. Nice.
I don't know. Oh, that was KB talking about petroleum jelly.
And I was like, I don't think we're going to know what the initials PJ stand for. Deep cut.
Playing football out now. Max, go ahead with your over.
Lions Packers. Lions are over team.
Lions are the over team. 20 and 8 in their last.
49 and a half. 20 and eight to the over since 2019 at home.
So that backs it up. PFT.
My over is put the house on the Dolphins Bears. Yep.
I got that as well. Billy.
Chiefs Titans. 46 and a half.
Oh, we haven't talked about this game. Chiefs Titans.
I can't stop Patrick Mahomes in the past game, but also can't stop derrick henry andy reed is it's andy reed off a bye so everyone knows like it's it's the probably the most talked about stat he's 27 and 6 straight up off a bye i think it's like 13 weeks or more or 13 days more rest because that also counts playoffs 16 and 8 against the spread I think it's better than that i think he's up to 18 and 9 he might be so the titans are kind of they kind of own the chiefs though yeah in the regular season do you remember last year they beat him 27 to 3 yeah vrabel as an underdog 19 and 7 against the spread He's crying with his guys.

Yeah.

All right, over.

But points.

Points.

Points.

Points, points, points.

Are you a little worried if Malik Willis, knowing that he can't throw,

or they won't let him throw?

What?

They'll give the ball to Derek Henry and he'll run.

The Chiefs have a very good run defense.

I'm just asking questions. It is tractor-setto season.

It is.

So let's say Malik Willis is running the ball a lot. Okay.
Malik Willis is running the ball a lot. If there's a lot of runs, that's clock.
Right. So less time for points.
Yes, but the Chiefs might just run it up then. That's true.
And we hit that over. Yeah, then we hit that over that way.
I like it. But also, Derek Henry will have fresh legs and Malik Willis is running a lot.
If Kadarius Toney ends up being really, really good for the Chiefs, it's going to piss me off. There's no chance, though, right? Because we've seen a little bit of Toney, but he's just...
He's so fast. He's so fast.
He breaks people off. But he just doesn't play ball.
But he breaks people off. He'll get behind you.
He will, and he'll break you off. He also takes the top off.
Yeah. I'm just saying.
That will piss me off. Okay.
Jake. I'm with Billy.
46 and a half Sunday Night Football. Hmm.
Okay. Let's do some unders, which are hitting it like an insane, insane clip.
And I'm so fucking sick of them. And the best one of us is in unders is four and four.
Shit. Who's that? Big Cat, Hank, and PFT.
All 4-4. Oh, good.
All right, nice. So I'm hot.
Unders have been free this year, and we are 4-4. Yeah, but I'm hot on unders compared to everything else.
If you look at the rest of my stats. Okay, Hank.
Under, Bears, Dolphins. Oh! He doesn't try to bet against us.
Definitely not. And I know that you just decided that right now

because you're fucking blowing bloody snot onto all your other picks.

You had no idea.

You just heard what we said for over,

and you put it in your little Hank filing cabinet.

No.

You locked it away, and you said, I'm going to piss them off.

Come on.

Don't think about you.

Come on.

Okay, you're under Max.

Coincidence. Such a dick.
We can say Monday Night. can say Monday Night Football, right? Yes.
Monday Night Raven Saints under. Ooh, Andy Dalton, baby.
Yeah, 48. Prime time Andy in the Dome.
You're under PFT. My under is Chargers Falcons under 49.
I don't think Mariota's going to be throwing too much like he was. He threw more than you would expect last week against the Panthers.
Agreed. I think that they're going to get back to their run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, run the ball some more.
And they're just going to run out of seconds to score, was it 49? Yeah, I'm with you on that. It's 49 and a half.
49 and a half. There aren't going to be enough seconds in this game.
They're going to run out of seconds. Okay.
I'm going to take the Patriots Colts under 39 and a half. I just think this game they're gonna run out of seconds okay um i'm gonna take the

patriots colts under 39 and a half i just think this game's gonna be gross first to 17 wins first to 17 wins that's what i'm feeling who you got hank you got mac jones again just sir yeah how how quickly do the booze start for mac jones if he throws an interception at home I don't know.

I think they start immediately.

I don't know. How quickly do the boos start for Mac Jones if he throws an interception at home?

I don't know.

I think they start immediately.

I don't know.

No, because Bailey Zappi did look bad.

I still think that once the home crowd gets a taste,

once they get a little bit of blood in the water of booing their starting quarterback.

The Roman Coliseum.

It's tough to switch that back. You need Belichick to go out there and do the Joaquin Phoenix and give a thumbs up, thumbs down.

Yeah.

Maybe they listen to me.

I told them to stop.

Yeah, you did tell them to stop.

So, yeah.

Listen to Hank.

We should be good.

Stop.

And stop saying that Hank puked on the blackjack table.

Because he didn't.

Yeah, no, obviously.

Right.

Right.

Actually, you did not.

Actually, obviously.

Obviously. I know.
Right. That's why I said it.
What did the dealer do? When he didn't puke? Well, no, he didn't do it. Yeah, Hank, what did the dealer do when he didn't puke? Listen, if you don't have- Come over the pit balls, right? If you don't have cash, you can't be at the table.
I did not have cash. Did you tip heavily with that? After? When you don't- I think you missed the part where I said it didn't have any cash.
Mm-hmm. So, but would you have tipped if you had cash? Right, but you have a player's card.
After you puked. I don't have a player's card.
Would you have tipped after you, if you had cash, after you puked, would you have tipped? Yeah, but I would never puke at the table. Did anyone else puke at the table? I wasn't at a table.
There was no table. Wait, now you're saying that the table doesn't exist.
Not one iota. There was never a table.
I went to the casino, tried to get cash out. There was a long line, saw Drewski, talked to him, didn't want to wait in the line.
Disappeared. He threw up on Drewski.

No.

False.

Was anyone on a hot streak and wanted to stay on the table after he puked? Oh, yeah.

That would have sucked if you were on a hot streak when he puked on the table.

And then, like, fuck the puke.

Let's keep playing.

All right.

Billy, did you do your under?

My under is Seahawks Cardinals 49 and a half.

Okay.

I like that.

All right.

And, Jake, you had your under?

Yeah, I'm with PFT.

All right. You were with PFT.
All right. Other games we missed.
Raiders, Jaguars. That game.
Ugh. Ugh.
God. Who? They should pay you to watch this game.
I mean, that is going to be, I guess, whoever wins, we're going to be like, maybe. No.
No. I don't think so.
But, I mean, the Raiders, they did have their signature loss last week. Yeah.
They're probably not going to lose that badly. They might even – hell, they might win this game.
They might win this game. They might win this game this week, but nothing's going to change.
I think the Raiders are still – they're still pieces of shit. Yeah, yeah.
I don't think in my whole lifetime I've seen Raiders-Jaguars and it's been, like, good. Yeah, no, no.
That's – yeah, that's not a good matchup um the Panthers Bengals I just love PJ Walker uh and then the only stat I had was Joe Burrow is 4-0 against the spread after losing to the Browns because he always loses the Browns yeah so he bounces back he's overall 12 and 3 straight up after loss yeah so go go with Joe Burrow there trust in Joe um I think that's everything i think we hit it all two four o'clock games is crazy two four o'clock games sucks hopefully no hopefully the phillies have already won the world series i was gonna say it'd be nice if we had a world series game on sunday night as well be a nice little duel if the game gets shitty we have something else to watch just for the record though max is not worried he's not worried. He's not worried at all.
He made that very clear. Don't say that he's worried.
It was basically not even a no-hitter. Right.
I didn't say that I'm not worried. I said that I'm confident.
I don't know what I said. Verbal meme, Max not worried, Hank puking on the table, neither thing is real.
Shaking hands. And no-hitter.
Wasn't real. What color was the puke?

I like this because Billy's going with a joke.

I like it.

He's really just... Yeah, the joke.

Keep it.

Yeah, the joke.

We're all kidding.

The joke.

We're all kidding here.

Okay.

Hank, have you stopped puking on tables?

Will you retire from puking on tables?

Listen, I'm an honest guy.

If I puked on a table, I'd come clean.

Okay.

You know how I do.

When was the last time you puked on a table? I don't know. Probably in a bar somewhere.
Yeah. With a casino attached? No.
Okay. Let's do.
You can see in the video, you can see when he says it. I had a reaction where I was like, oh my God.
I believed him for a second and then I checked my, and I talked to people. I was like, I didn't do that, did I?

So he just made that up.

Yeah.

He is.

Yes, he is a comedian, and he is very quick-witted.

Yeah.

That was such a funny joke.

Invented it.

Yeah.

Just like, that's totally normal.

When I meet somebody for the first time.

Well, we met the night before.

I usually say, like, you puked on the table.

Yeah.

There was a camera rolling.

As a bit.

PFT.

As a bit.

You know how it is when the camera's rolling.

Sure. Yeah.
What do you mean? That's when you get your acting on yeah no i'm acting right now by by making fun of hank for puking on the table because it's obvious that he didn't puke on the table i mean it's not obvious but i'm not no no it's not obvious i can understand why people would think that did happen but thankfully we have this platform and i'm able to Clear your name once and for all. Okay, let's do Fantasy Fuck Boys and we'll do our Mount Rush.
We're going to have to get Drewski on. We'll do our Mount Rushmore.
Yeah, we should come on. Our Mount Rushmore and then we'll get to our interview.
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Real quick before we do Fantasy Fuck Boys, Mount Rushmore.

You know what?

I said we were going to do it after.

Yeah.

Oh, after this?

Yeah.

I said we were going to do both.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Ready?

Yeah.

Yeah.

What's up, boys?

How we doing?

What's up, fucker?

What's up, you fuck face?

My stardom.

What's your name?

Pukita Pukason.

My name's Almond Almondinger.

I'm AJ's brother.

Hey, what's up, AA?

My stardom is smashing your car into a wall and hitting the gas as hot as you can.

Oh, fuck.

That's hot.

I saw this last weekend.

It's like a very practical thing to do.

If you're on the highway this weekend, just fucking rip it into the wall and smash the gas. Hell yeah.
Get ahead of the crowd. Hell yeah.
My sit-em, Zach Wilson. Nah, boo.
Short piece of shit. Fucking sucks.
Overrated. Can't throw the ball past 10 yards.
He's a tall guy. He just gives layups to the defense.
Free interceptions. Listen, our community, we love our mothers very deeply, but we don't love other people's mothers.
And my sleeper is breweries. Breweries.
Breweries. Inter-breweries.
I'm going to Portsmouth, New Hampshire for the first time this weekend. I feel like that's a big brewery.
You wearing a flannel? You wearing a flannel? Breweries brewing in Portsmouth. They like to sip on the syrup up there.
A brewery. You wearing a flannel to the brewery? Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah, flannel season. I'm probably just going to keep the suit on all weekend.
Hell yeah. Mr.
Lumberjack. All right.
What's up, dickheads? Hey, what up? What up, you fuck stick? This is Rick Pitino. Rickie! Recently acquitted Rick Pitino of all charges at Louisville.
That's right. Nothing sticks to me.
Unless it's my leg. I'm starting Chicago-style hot dogs.
I'm going to eat some Chicago-style hot dogs this weekend. Extra ketchup.
That's what I'm talking about. Bathing in ketchup.
Boiling in ketchup.

I'm sitting goop a cup.

I was even in the game last week. That made no

sense whatsoever. Now the season's

fucked. Capisce?

Posh. I'm asleep.
My sleep is

eggnog. Eggnog has hit the

shelves officially yet again.

It is eggnog season. I love

eggnog. It's a delicious holiday

treat. Just don't

spill it in your lap. You know what I'm saying?

I think that you would just have an olive garden

Thank you. Man, it is eggnog season.
I love eggnog. It's a delicious holiday treat.
Just don't spill it in your lap. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
I think that you would just add an olive garden. I like it.
I like it. What's up, fuckers? It's Tony Baloney here.
TB. My stardom is Mitch Trubisky.
I read an article on CBS Sports saying Mitch Trubisky's excelling as being a leader. He's back.
Maybe that's his role in the NFL. Fuck yes.
Let's go. Mitch.
He could be the next Chase Daniels. Yeah, my sit-em is Mattress Mac.
You can't let Philly get to you, Mattress Mac. Angry guy.
You can't let Philly get to you. Now they know that there's blood in the water.
They're going after you. Although I shout out Mattress Mac because that was just a guy trying to win a bet.
There a lot of charity I respect Mattress Mac I respect him a little bit more when he uses a partial sportsbook Yes, absolutely My sleeper is Zach Wilson I recently learned that Zach Wilson is just too good for his job Very good So he's going to do great That's a good point Also this weekend he's matched up against Josh Allen Yeah And I think that the J good job heating him up. Heating him up.
And I also heard Josh Allen say that he actually threw three interceptions against the Patriots his second year. And then now he's an MVP candidate.
So, do the math. Everything's coming up, Zachy boy.
I heard it from a guy. What's up, Fox? It's Salvatore Tesevici.
Oh, what up, Sally? How we doing? My starter, Dimitri Bavar. He's fighting this weekend, Saturday, 5 o'clock.
That's my boy. That's my boy.
He's my guy. He's fighting Abu Dhabi against Gilberto Ramirez.
I think he's going to take it the distance, win by points. It's in the Barstool Sportsbook.
Minus 150 right now. Take it.
Free money. Free money.
No, that's free money. Free money.
Free money. I heard that.
I heard that. I heard that.
Bavall, he eats a lot of steak. No, he lot of steak No he's a big fan Of quesadillas You went out to a table with him Did you puke at that table No no I'm not a puke I know a guy who's a puke Not me Not the puke guy though.
Not me, though. You got to know a guy.
Not the puke guy.

Not you.

I know a poof guy, too.

Yeah.

Yo, my sit-um.

I was straight in Boston on St. Patrick's Day.

Not a puke guy.

Oh, no. Not a puke guy.

Just a bystander.

Walk the other way, guys.

Just a bystander.

Just a walk the other way, guys.

Hey, I ain't see nothing.

I ain't see nothing.

I ain't see nothing.

You know, keep your back to the wall.

No sucker punches.

Just shimmy around.

Anyway, this video. No video.
There's not a video of me avoiding a fight on St. Patrick's Day.
For the record, statute of limitations. Yeah.
Six points. Alright, Sally.
My sit-em. Bill's secondary.
We talked about this. Zach Wilson, light him up.
I think they're going to heat him up, too. Heat him up? Sleep him up? No, no, Bill's secondary.
Sleep with their mothers? Okay, and then my sleeper. My sleeper is Snuggie.
Snuggie's nice to get a Snuggie. You know, end of the day.
What, this is 2007? Hey, hey, hey. What are you going to do? That's right, Sleeper.
What are you going to do? Beanie Babies next? Yeah, no, but you're in your Snuggie on the couch watching football. It's cold.
You know that landlord doesn't turn the heat on? Yeah, maybe you're Snuggie. Maybe play some Pogs later.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Pogs.
Yeah, you don't know what that is. Yeah, fat asses.
Yeah, that's true. That's why we go to Pogs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they use a slam on the fat asses.
Pogs. Pogs.
What are you guys talking about? Yeah, I see you guys. I gotta go.
Little things we used to play with. What were they? Bottle caps? They were a little bigger.
They called them milk caps. They were just these round POGS.
Pieces of cardboard. And then there were all the rage for like two years.
You hit them and then you have a slammer. You'd bounce a slammer off them and you flipped them over.
Then you got to keep the other person's pogs. It's a pretty cool game.
I thought you were talking about P-A-W. Yeah, it's a bonk.
Put it on the bonk list. That's what.
No, you're being horny. I'm not being horny.
Yeah, no, we were talking about G-L. When I say thoughts and prayers, do you think that hoe over there? No, Salvatore Tesevici was horny.
Yeah, that's true. Okay, good point.
Are you actually using a Snuggie again? I have like Snuggies are my favorite things. Wow.
Okay. I like Snuggies.
Yeah. Yeah, that is a throwback.
My landlord also hasn't turned on the heat. I kind of like that.
I like when it's cold. I do.
That's why I get Snuggie. Yeah, it reminds you of like going to a hotel and cranking down the AC.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my take.
Yeah. Check that take.
Yeah. That was my take.
Just pretend like you're in a hotel. Yeah.
All right. I'm sorry for taking your take.
That was my take. You also said.
You got enough takes. You also said Josh Allen might get heat up.
Well, yeah, I did take that take from him. He took that.
Well, he took it from me. I took it from him.
Okay, yeah. You got enough takes.
All right, Mount Rushmore. We lost last week.
We got maybe a little ahead of ourselves. We lost a couple ways though that that uh josh jacobs the the raiders just couldn't do shit so let's win yeah let's win i'm i'm guaranteeing that my guy is going to cover i also am guaranteeing my guy hank yep guaranteed guarantee billy jake uh we guarantee okay that didn't sound like a very...
I guarantee Jake you can... Okay.
Does Jake guarantee? Yes, it's happening. We don't have the same guys.
I'm taking Aaron Jones. Okay.
Packers, Lions. They got to start running him more.
Aaron Jones. I'm going back to Josh Jacobs.
I think it can't happen again. It was a weird sequence of events that made the Raiders get down so much so early.
That's not going to happen against the Jaguars. Josh Jacobs is a top five running back in the NFL.
They're going to feed him. It's going to be glorious.
He's going to put some highlight tapes out there. I'm taking this in the Barstool Sportsbook where everyone else can bet it if they want to.
Exclusive section. That's where all this will be.
I'm going with Ramond Jerry Stevenson.

Oh, Patriots.

I think it's going to be a slow game.

You know, get up to a lead.

I think someone said 27 earlier.

Just get a lead, run the ball.

He's been really good this year.

Sit on the rock.

Yeah.

Billy and Jake.

We're going to go with Dalvin Cook.

He's gotten 50 yards in all of their wins.

His only time getting under is the Philly game in week two. Okay.
All right. So the barstool sports book let's get back on the winning side um under the exclusive sections uh okay let's get to sunny dykes great interview with sunny dykes tcu love everyone's been saying we don't give any love to tcu we got sunny dykes on the show before we do that pft you got a quick word from one of our sponsors yeah before, before we talk to Sonny Dykes, I want to talk to you guys about Sport Clips.
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I actually want to start. Your fan base has gotten upset at us because we talk college football.
We're a lot more NFL, but we talk a lot of college football. They say we haven't been giving you guys enough credit, haven't been bringing you up enough.
So we said, hey, let's get the coach on and let's talk some TCU football. Yeah, we've got a good fan base.
I mean, those guys, they get the feelings hurt pretty easily. So that's always good when you have fans that are passionate about that stuff.
And, yeah, you know how it is. They're going to let you know when they think you're slighting the Horned Frogs.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So right off the top, let's just talk about how the season's gone.
If you could flash back like two and a half months ago, and in your wildest dreams, would you think that you were undefeated? Was that ever kind of a goal for you at this point in the season you know what's funny is that coming out of fall camp uh about week three you know we sat down as a coach staff and we said wow you know we think we actually have a chance to have a good football team you know what does that mean i don't really know you know what i mean i think that it's my first year in the big 12 i didn't really know that much about the league You know. You know what I mean? I think that it's my first year in the Big 12.
I didn't really know that much about the league. You know, I'd watched it from afar and paid attention a little bit, but I just didn't know how we stacked up with the teams in the league.
But we felt like we had a chance. I mean, we really did.
We felt like we, you know, we felt like we could score enough points to be in ballgames. We, you know, we had to replace a lot of our D linemen.
You know, we had a lot of guys that went in the transfer portal, some guys that graduated early, some guys that moved on. And so we were a little bit decimated on the defensive front.
And, you know, we needed some guys to come in and to step in and play well. And they have, you know, and Dylan Horton's a senior who's played really well and george cooper's played well um or george ellis rather and terrell cooper's played well and so we've had guys that have that are older guys that have really come on and we've had some freshmen that have played well too and so it's been a that's been a big i think uh surprise for us just really how how well that defensive.
And, you know, you're not going to win many football games if you're not good on either side of the line of scrimmage. And, you know, we're, we're good up front on the offensive line.
We've really played well on the defensive front. And so it's given us a chance and then our quarterback play has been outstanding.
You know, Max Duggan has done a, done a really great job of managing our football team and making plays. And we've got a lot of speed and a lot of skill on this team.
So we felt like we could score, you know, and anytime you can score points, that gives you a chance. Yeah, I got a couple bones to pick with you, but one of them was Max Duggan.
You know, I follow college football pretty closely, and I remember in August when you said you're going to go with three quarterbacks and I took you for your word. Would you like to apologize to me? Because that was clearly a lie because Max is phenomenal and he's been great this year.
Yeah. Well, you know, it's funny.
We did play all three quarterbacks in the first game. Yeah.
Yeah. And that's kind of what we thought.
You know, look, we came out of fall camp and, and, and Chandler Morris really had won the job and Max had played a lot of football for TCU and you know Chandler just had such a great fall camp uh we got into the first game against Colorado um struggled a little bit in the first half second half starts Chandler gets injured we put Max in the game and Max just picks up where he left off you know the year before and and you know has continued to develop every single week as a quarterback and that's been really fun to watch him because he you know he was a good quarterback early on and then i think he became a pretty good quarterback and then he became a really good quarterback and i think now he's really developed into to a great quarterback And I think one of the guys that's probably playing as well as anybody in college football right now. And so he is he's done a fantastic job of learning the offense.
He's very confident in the guys that, that are the supporting cast and the guys around him. He hasn't tried to try, tried to force things.
He's taken, you know, what defenses have given him. He's a, He's a hell of a runner.
He runs the ball well, plays tough, plays physical, and our guys have kind of fed off of that. He's just been a real pleasure to coach.
He's a warrior, man. He's got that warrior mentality, and it's permeated our entire program.
Yeah, he's a listener of this show, too, so it's good that you said nice things about him there do you have any coaching points you want to you want to maybe maybe he'll pay more attention to you if you're on this show if you want to speak to him right now and give him any advice for the upcoming games right now hey max keep doing what you're doing man keep working hard keep doing what you're doing and don't listen to all the good stuff you ignored the bad stuff now ignore the good stuff too yeah yeah just be like yeah you suck max stop listening to part of my take go back in your playbook do you want us to tell him that he stinks and build a chip on his no no no don't tell him that okay tell him that because yeah he because he's gonna know it's not the truth okay all right that's fair so um you mentioned there uh a point about how you guys came out slow against colorado you've had a few games where you've come out a little slow, and it feels like there's something about your team this year. You're never out of it.
What, as a coach, though, like where's the line where you're playing with fire versus you love that your guys never quit and can always come back? Because, I mean, if you just keep starting slow, like that Oklahoma State game was incredible.

You've had a couple of those games where it's like,

oh, TCU's in real trouble here.

And then, you know, you flip the entire game on its head.

Yeah, I mean, look, at some point, we've got to quit doing that.

I mean, it's going to bite us in the rear end if we don't stop.

You know, two weeks in a row, we got down 17.

I think the Oklahoma State got down 18 to Kansas State.

I mean, that's two good football teams. And we were able to the second half we held oklahoma state to six points in regulation the second half that's a high-powered offense and and then we shut kansas state out in the second half and so our defense has really played well in the second half of football games and i think it's a you know it's a tribute to our players man they get stronger as the game goes along and you know joe g, our defensive coordinator, has done a great job of making adjustments at halftime, figuring out what people are doing to us.
Our players have done a nice job of making those adjustments. We just keep swinging.
I think that's been the thing that we've done. We just keep our head down.
We haven't panicked. We just keep swinging.
That comes comes from being confident, and it comes from the hard work you put in and a belief in each other. I think our offense believes in our defense.
Our defense believes in our offense. They believe in special teams.
The players, I think, believe in each other. They believe in the coaches.
I know as coaches, we certainly believe in them. So it's been fun.
Now, as you said, we've got to stop it. I mean, there's going to be a time that, you know, we're not going to be able to do that in the second half, and so we're certainly going to have to get off to better starts than we have.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, at the end of the last game, that caused a lot of controversy in this office.
I don't know if you paid that much attention to it. I know Big Cat was – Well, yeah, that's the second bone to pick I had with you.
We can't – you can't talk gambling spreads, but I would like to just maybe go back to that spot against West Virginia. And you know that you could have – like on a free play, the game's over.
You don't have to throw a touchdown with 20 seconds left. I would have preferred if you didn't.
The guy was off sides too. Yeah, well, yeah.

I certainly understand it. So here is our thinking going into the play.

Okay, so it's fourth and one.

We're trying to, you know,

as you said, run the clock out.

A field goal would have been fine, by the way. Again,

we're not going to talk numbers, but I would have

field goal would have been smart.

You don't want to kick a field goal in that situation.

Yeah, a lot of stuff can go wrong there. Okay.
So we're fourth and one. We're on about their 30.
I think 31, actually. And so a couple of things were going on.
Number one, we had all three timeouts. We got in a formation.
We wanted to see, okay, how are they going to defend this formation? And then the second thing was we were going to try to draw them off sides. Well, when you try to draw somebody off sides and they're off sides, the center snaps the ball, all the receivers run four verticals and the quarterback throws it up because it's a free play.
And so I don't think any of us anticipated any of that happening. Um, well, they did jump, which we honestly, I didn't expect them to, I didn't think they would, we were going to call a timeout, and now we were going to call a play,

run the ball, and then hopefully get the first down,

take a knee, and be out of there.

But when they jumped, they snapped it, and you've got to give Max credit.

He made a heck of a throw to Savion Williams.

He made a heck of a catch, and there we go.

But do we have to give Max credit?

Because he should just fall down in that situation and not risk an injury.

Yeah, I'm smart. Yeah yeah yeah yeah you guys can pick that up with max okay all right exactly what i told him to do yeah i that that play hurt i'm gonna tell you right now that play hurt again we won't talk spreads but that play hurt a lot of people yeah it hurt a lot of people a lot of people would you do you want to apologize to anyone I am sorry I'm sorry about that yeah because you would have won the game anyway um so the other weird quirk that's happening in your season I know you guys this isn't uh by design but you've had a string where the starting quarterback has gone out for the opposing team like four or five games in a row is this something that do you do you put it up on the whiteboard before being like, look, we're not going to game plan it for it, but it keeps happening, so we might as well take a look at the backup? Yeah, you know what's weird? So we had that against Oklahoma, and Dylan Gabriel got knocked out of the game.
We had a late hit on Dylan Gabriel, which we got penalized for. And we should have.
I mean, it was a late hit.

So he missed the second part of that game.

Now, I think it was 34-10 when he went out of the game and he felt like we were in control.

Then I think after that, I know we went into the Oklahoma State game.

We felt like their quarterback was a little bit banged up.

We played Kansas.

Kansas quarterback, yeah.

And then same thing. Jalen Daniels is a heck of a player.
He got hurt in that game, so we had to face a backup quarterback who actually came in and played really well. He did.
And then we played Spencer Sanders against Oklahoma State. I think he was a little banged up coming into the game, but he played the whole game.
Yeah. Well, then we go into the Kansas State game andz is playing lights out and you know he goes in the game and we we tackle adrian there's no nobody hit him hard anything i we came to the conclusion and again we don't know this but we thought he was probably hurt the week before um and might have re-injured himself in our game because there was really not much of a hit uh that place.
And then they put the backup in, and he played lights out, and he's the guy that led them to a victory against Oklahoma State last week. So the one thing that we know we can say for sure is that there's a lot of good backup quarterbacks in the Big 12.
The guys have come in and they've played well, but we've also kind of had a weird set of circumstances that have occurred kind of leading up to that it's genius just to run the play where the other quarterback has to get out of the game it's it's more teams should think not not again you guys have not done anything besides the dylan gabriel one which you again you got you got penalized for but it's like okay the ball's just bouncing our way right now ride it out that's kind of fun Yeah, look, Amy, when you pick seventh in your league and you're 8-0 and rank seventh in the country, you've got to catch some breaks. Yeah.
And I think we certainly have. I mean, look, let's don't kid ourselves.
Now, we've played really good football, and I think we have a good football team. But, you know, to get on the kind of run that we're on right now, you do have to catch a couple of breaks, and we certainly have so far this year.
Yeah, I'm not taking anything away from you guys because you have had a phenomenal season. It's just interesting.
Yeah. It's just like an interesting string of questions.
Yeah, I get it. As a football coach in Texas, one of the things that you have to deal with a lot is the recruiting process and dealing with the high school football coaches down there.
And there's some, some legendary high school football coaches and having those relationships with them is probably the biggest factor in being able to sustain a college program in the state. So how do you deal with, with some of the coaches who are legends in their own rights, being able to build those relationships with them in order to make sure that you can get some of the good players that are grown in-state there? Yeah, you know, as you said earlier, Texas is unique that way.
I think that, you know, the coaching profession in the high schools here is taken very seriously. I mean, these guys are very, very, very good coaches, and a lot of them have moved on and become really successful, you know, college coaches.
And, you know, I started out as a high school coach in Texas myself, spent basically two years, one year at Monahans High School, a little small town in West Texas, and another year at Pierce High School in Richardson in the Dallas area. And so I've been in DFW for a long time, been recruiting here, recruited here when I was coaching at Navarro Junior College, when I coached at the University of Kentucky, when I was at Texas Tech, when I was at Arizona, kind of working my way up.
I've always recruited Dallas. I think the high school coaches in Texas are, it's a strong group.
I mean, it really is. There's not many organizations more powerful than the Texas High School Coaches Association.
I mean, those guys are

united. They take the profession very seriously.
They do a great job coaching these young men, and they put a lot of guys in college football and provide a lot of young people with opportunities to get a scholarship and continue playing football. And it's a great place to recruit.
I really believe dfw um you know has as good a high school facilities as any place in the country i mean you drive around you see these stadiums i mean they're unbelievable they they take it very seriously there's a huge commitment from communities uh there's an emphasis on it in youth football so it's just a great place to have a chance to recruit and as you said i it's all about the relationships. It's all about those guys being able to trust you and that you're going to take care of the young men that you're recruiting from their schools.
Yeah. I'm a firm believer that, that innovations in football start at the high school level and then they trickle away their way up through college.
And then from there to the NFL after they've been, you know, proven to be successful in college. So what in your mind is the next big wrinkle that's coming

in terms of football innovation from the high school level?

Yeah, that's a good question.

I mean, I think you're exactly right.

I think most people think it goes down, you know,

it kind of starts at the top and works its way down,

which is not the case at all.

I mean, as you said, you know, I worked for some really innovative guys,

Hal Mummey at Kentucky, and I was Mike Leach's GA at Kentucky. And those guys were outside the box thinkers.
And Hal had been a high school coach in Texas and started running the air raid, really, when he was in high school. And then I worked on the staff at Texas Tech with Art Browse.
Art Browse was our running back coach. And he kind of, when he became the head coach at Houston and Baylor, he took what he was running at Stephenville High School and started running it and and you know really in a lot of ways those two offenses have changed football if you watch Tennessee and what they're doing right now and the success that they're having a lot of that stuff they're doing is is stuff that Art Briles did you know at Stephenville High School and and so it's been a it's as you said it's kind of worked its way up I think I think Mike Leach and Hal Mummey have had a huge impact on what's happening now in the NFL and a lot of offenses that are being run at that level you know I don't know what's next to me I think that football is a little cyclical I think that you're going to start maybe seeing some teams start to run a little bit more triple option you know I think that's that's something that you're going to see is maybe a little bit of triple option get integrated in some of the spread things.
A little bit of veer concept is a run game into a spread type of offense and a spread system. You talk about a pain in the rear end.
Defensively, that would be a tough thing to defend. Yeah, we love the triple option here.
I'm option fan so i i you you have been around some incredible football minds some friends of ours too but i did want to reference how mummy i mean legendary coach the towel everything when you got with him we're like like those meetings where he's like yeah we're just gonna throw it we're just gonna throw it and we're going to throw it and they're not going to be able to stop it. Like, is that, could you feel the, the, the change? Cause obviously now a lot of teams do the air raid, but how mummy was one of the founders of it.
Was it, was it eyeopening to be like, wow, we can play football this way. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, it's funny.
I was a young coach at the time. I hadn't been exposed to a whole lot.
I'd been two years at Navarro Junior College where we were kind of one back, almost a little run and shoot style. So we were pretty innovative.
And then I go to Kentucky and I sit in these meetings and I hear Hal talk. And I'm like, this dude has lost his mind.
You know, there's no way there's no way we're going to do this stuff in the SEC and not get just pounded every week and and you know we had a very small menu of plays it was all about execution you know and the one thing hal used to say all the time and it was really pretty funny i remember at the time thinking man this is crazy but it's really smart he would say look we're going to throw the ball as many times as possible to people who can score and we're going to spread the field field. And not only spread it vertically, but horizontally.
We're going to try to make a defense cover the entire length and width of a football field. And so when you set out and you start looking at its concepts, you kind of started going, wow, in a weird sort of way, this is triple option football.
But instead of handing the ball off and reading a down lineman, you're throwing the ball and you're reading a second level player, whether it's a linebacker or a safety. And if this guy does that, then you do this.
And so it was kind of came out of the same principles as triple option, but it was really, it was really throwing the ball. And it was instead of meeting, reading guys on the line of scrimmage, it was reading second, third level so it made a lot of sense it worked incredibly well uh you know hal had a ton of success at kentucky and it was fun to be part of you know changing college football and really changing football in general and i was fortunate enough to go with mike leach to texas tech in 2000 and we took that offense and even made it a little bit more extreme you know mike was uh hal played with played with two backs a lot.
Hal played with a tight end some, and Mike just said, hey, look, let's spread everybody out, four wides and one back and enroll. And so it was a fun thing to be a part of, really innovative, had a lot of really bright coaches on our staff.
I mean, you look at the guys, you know, Cliff Kingsbury was the quarterback. Graham Harrell was the quarterback.
Sonny Cumbie was the quarterback. Lincoln Riley was a walk-on quarterback that became a student coach.
You know, Art Brawles was on the staff. Dana Holgerson was on the staff.
I was on the staff. Dave Aranda was the GA on the staff.
Ruffin McNeil went on to become the head coach. A bunch of different places was on that staff.
And so we had these guys that were, you know, pretty smart guys that were innovative.

And we got to learn a lot of it from Mike.

And we got to also learn the thing that Mike did better than anybody was to,

Hey, don't be scared, man.

Let's just, let's just play.

Let's do what we do.

Let's have a philosophy.

Let's, let's jump in completely with it.

We're burn the boats.

This is what we're going to do.

And let's, let's make it work. It's we did and yeah it's awesome gotta give those guys credit yeah it's i mean it's it is great staff crazy names we are uh good friends with coach dana um we actually stayed at his house not a brag just a fact um would how many times during those years would would dana be like come on sonny one we've got to stay out until it's only 2 o'clock.
Like, we've got to stay out. Because we've had a couple of those late nights with Dana.
He's the best. Yeah, no, I've had my share of late nights with Dana, for sure, and with Mike Leach and that group.
I mean, I'll tell you this. We worked hard, but we also played hard.
We had fun. It was a blast to be around those guys i mean just really special guys and and and we had a great time those days at texas tech people would come visit us all the time and they would leave after two or three days they'd be like me i'll see how you guys do this yeah because we we we ran pretty hard we had a good time and it was a lot of fun yeah we've heard some of the stories about uh you know some of the the sneaky stuff that you guys would try to pull at texas tech in terms of i don't know leaving out like a fake script to your first 10 plays of the game things like that so the other team would find it conveniently were you ever put in charge of any of these uh covert operations yeah yeah actually i was i was the fake script guy for a number of years and and dana and i conspired together on that stuff and and i was the i was the only one that could type.
So I was the typist in the group, so I was always responsible for typing up the scripts and the wristbands and all that. So, yeah, Dana and I would go have a soda pop on Thursday night and sometimes come up with the fake script that we left for the opposing team on Saturday.
Where would you leave it? Would you just leave it in the locker room? Nah, so what we did, and this was Leach's idea, we would put it, so you know, when your team goes down, your field goal kickers kick on the opposing side's field. So they're kicking field goals on that side.
And so they have a big ball bag. And we would put the script under the ball bag.
So that when those guys were done kicking, they'd pick up the ball bag and that script would just be sitting there. And then we would stand back and watch.
And, you know, somebody would walk over and pick the script up and they would look at it, you know, and we got to just sit back and watch. And most people were smart enough to know that, hey, look, these guys are just screwing with us.
We're not going to pay attention to this. But there were a couple of times we walked in the locker room after the game and they had all this script written up

and they were trying to figure out what in the world this stuff meant.

Oh, that's incredible.

Would you guys ever name certain plays on there?

Would you include little hidden messages in your fake plays that you were drawing?

Yeah, I remember one year we were playing Texas A&M

and Dennis Franchione was the head coach.

I remember it was like one of the deals was out of this formation it was okay double reverse coach fran special that's so we left we left we left that special for the ags that's great just you pay attention the first couple plays and and see like okay i think that they're following the fake script that they think that we're running yeah yeah yeah two or three plays in it was they knew it was a waste of time that's that's incredible the other the other one I wanted to uh there's two other guys that you've you've come across coached um the first is Gronk at Arizona like when you first saw him were you just like holy shit this guy because he is a freak and we've had you know we've been friends with him for a while and had him on and even even when he walks in the room, you're like, how does anyone cover this guy? Like, his hands are so big. He's a monster.
He's fast. Did you have that same wow? Yeah, I'll tell you a funny story.
So I get hired at Arizona the day I got hired. And I flew from Lubbock to Tucson.
I signed my contract. And then me and Mike Stoops get on a plane, and we fly to Pittsburgh.
And, you know, Rob's originally from Buffalo, but before his senior year, he and his dad, Gordy, moved to Pittsburgh.

So we fly to Pittsburgh.

We go to, you know, Stoops is telling me this tight end, how good he is.

You know, all this stuff about him.

I watched a little high school film.

Thought he looked really good.

So they're in this high-rise apartment. So we go to apartment we get to the floor we get off the elevator we go in the house you know gordy answers the door his dad's awesome just super guy and so and really cool and fun and great guy to hang out with and so we go gordy's there and then you know rob walks in the door and you're just like holy cow this guy's in high school so they invite us in well they got a tv there sitting in the on the wall and then over to the left is the bench press and then over there next to that's a squat rack and then there's a leg press machine and then there's you know and so literally their entire living room is like weightlifting equipment with a tv and so me and stoops are doing this home visit you visit.
You know, I'm on the leg press machine, you know, sitting there. Mike is laying on the bench press.
Rob's on the ground, and Gordy's, you know, sitting on the squat rack, you know, and we're doing this home visit in their house. And that's when I thought, you know what, this kid's pretty special and turned out to be a hell of a football player, obviously.
Yeah. Yeah, I imagine that as a coach for him, you just, you figure out a way to get the ball in his hands any way possible, because if he has it, he's just impossible to tackle.
Yeah. Yeah.
He was, I mean, he was, he's just a unique guy. I mean, a couple of things about him.
Number one, you know, he actually is as much fun as his persona. I mean, the guy just is the like most fun person in the world to be around, a huge personality, you know, partied hard.
But one thing he did now, when he showed up for practice, man, it was, it was blood and guts every day. I mean, he loved to play football.
He was very serious about his approach to the game. You know, unbelievably uniquely talented, was athletic enough to play.
We used to split him out. you you know we'd go three by one and put him out there by himself and and basically we had a whole offense really it was you know if they had two people on him then we ran the ball or did something else if they only had one person on him that we singled these routes and you know he was just the most dominant college football player i'd ever been around he only played in 18 college football games.
You know, he had a couple of injuries, got mono one year, and then didn't get to play his junior year at all because he blew his back out in the weight room. And so, you know, it was crazy.
I remember thinking, you know, he's going to go to some NFL team. If he can stay healthy, he's going to have a hell of a career.
And he even surpassed my expectations. It's actually smart that Gronk got mono in college before he made it to the NFL.
It's like getting chicken pox early on. How did he break that news to you? Was he laughing? He's like, Coach, I kissed a girl.
Yeah, yeah. I think there were a couple of girls on the Arizona campus that Rob might have kissed her and then the other one was uh we're good friends with Jared Goff and you coached him at Cal like we're with the connections we have with you are insane um when was it when did you realize like oh Jared's like this is this is an NFL player this is a first round pick here yeah you know I think so Jared I mean we were look we were terrible when I got to Cal we recruited Jared we played him as a true freshman and man we threw him to the wolves I mean we we were not very good he was going to kind of be the future of our program and and I remember we played Ohio State I believe game three and he got hit about 25 times in that game and I remember him standing in the pocket and throwing a bunch of strikes and just getting destroyed, uh, by a bunch of really good football players.
So Joey Bosa, I think was a young player at the time at Ohio state. And, and, uh, they got well acquainted.
Those two did that, that Saturday. And I remember, you know, walking off the field that day and we got, we got our tail kicked pretty good.
And, uh, but I just remember thinking, man, this kid's special. You know, this kid never blinked.
This is a tough guy. I mean, he was skinny.
He didn't look like a college football player. Um, but I just remember how tough he was, how, how mentally tough he was, how physically tough he was and just how resilient he was, you know? And I think, I think that's why he's had so much success.
You know, he's bounced around a little bit now he's in Detroit, but the guy's just incredibly resilient he was. And I think that's why he's had so much success.
He's bounced around a little bit. Now he's in Detroit.
But the guy's just incredibly resilient, incredibly smart. He's just one of those people.
And, man, he makes people around him better. And I love Jared.
Got a great family. Usually see him in the offseason a little bit in Cabo from time to time.
And really enjoy him. I just think he's a great uh, a hell of a football player.
Yeah, he really is. And that, yeah, I'm looking at that game right now and you, he did take some hits and he, he still threw for like three 50.
He did. Yeah.
Yeah. And like I said, we weren't very good.
And, uh, man, he hung in there and, and, and was, was, uh, was dealing balls to guys. And that's when I remember walking off that field going, man, I think this guy's going to be special.
And he just got better literally every single day. You know, just kept getting better and better and better.
And, you know, ended up being the first pick, came out after his junior year. Yeah.
I want to just clear something up. You do not have a degree in nuclear engineering, correct? No, no, no.
Somebody, you know, my guess is my wife put that on my Wikipedia. It's close to nuclear engineering.
It's history. Okay.
Okay. Yeah.
That's yeah. There's some overlap there, I guess.
Definitely. Yeah.
But yeah, you can just study nuclear. We studied some nuclear submarines maybe when I was taking a history class, but that's about, about as close to nuclear as anything as I've ever been.
The funny thing is I could see Mike Leach hiring a guy that was a nuclear engineer because he would think that that type of mind would work in a football environment. Yeah, but it wasn't me.
I definitely wasn't the guy. Maybe Dana.
Dana, oh, man. God help us.
Think about Dana with some nuclear codes. Yeah, okay, so let's pretend that me and Big Cat were a couple stud-wide receivers growing up in, let's say, Dripping Springs, Texas.
And Dana, you know that Dana just got out of our living room earlier today to recruit us down to Houston. You come in.
How do you recruit us away from Dana? Because we had a great time with Dana. Yeah.
You're probably not going to have as much fun with me as you had with Dana, but we might actually talk football okay i think you're gonna get one of us yeah you probably get one of us the other one will go to dana yeah exactly exactly yeah yeah dana man i love dana dana's um dana's one of a kind you know it's like i said when you go back you look at that coaching staff we had a we had some great coaches and some fun guys and had some good times together. So, Coach, this has been fantastic.
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First of all, legendary name, Spike Dykes. I mean, that alone is just Hall of Fame.
I know it's a nickname, but that's Hall of Fame. But I read the story that you knew that you weren't going to be a college football player, so you decided to play baseball so that he wasn't put in a tough situation.
Is that true? Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, look, I was going to have to be a walk on player. I was, I was, I was a lousy player.
Um, and so I was going to have to like walk on and I really kind of wanted to stay close to home. Um, my dad at that time was not in great health.
And so I thought, you know, I'd like to try to spend as much time with him as I could and be around. And so walked on to the baseball team.
Larry Hayes had a really good baseball program at Texas Tech at the time and got to hang around the baseball program and learn some stuff. But it was great.
You know, the last thing in the world I wanted to do was go walk on and, you know, cause all those issues with my dad. You know what I'm saying? It's bad enough.
enough it's hard enough to be a coach i have a six-year-old son i can assure you there's not a chance in hell that i'm coaching no matter what but it's it's rare it's rare because a lot of guys you know we make jokes about the coach's son and it's like hey why is that guy out there it's like well he's the coach's son that's a rare moment to be like i'm gonna i'm gonna take myself out of this situation for my dad yeah I mean look it's hard enough it's hard it's a hard enough job as it is to not have your son who by the way stinks uh as a player you know so so yeah I plus we're my dad and I are a lot alike and and um you know we we were like oil together I mean it wasn't it wasn't good you know oil water, and we just didn't mix particularly well in that situation. So it was good for both of us.
That's a commendable thing. I mean, the name Sonny Dyches, Sonny is a great football guy name.
Yeah. How do you get the nickname Sonny? I feel like there aren't too many of those around anymore.
Yeah, you know, it's actually one of my dad's best friends, a guy namedny everett uh that they knew each other forever and so um named me after one of his good friends yeah i love it oh one last last question you um you made your entrance to tcu in a helicopter do you think that was a little a little much i mean it was badass but when they yeah who was that was that your idea there certainly no it certainly wasn't. Yeah.
You know, they just thought it would kind of be cool. I guess, I guess because I was coming from Dallas, you know, and if I was coming from someplace else, they couldn't use the helicopter really.
And so I guess that was the thing. Look, my kids loved it.
You know, it was really cool for my kids. That's the only time they've been in a helicopter and it was kind of a cool way to do things.
But yeah, it wouldn't have been my first choice, I can assure you. It was a flashy way to come and it was announcing your entrance in a big, big way.
It's been an incredible season and best of luck going forward. Yeah, just one last, last, last thing.
When you got into your office, were there still a bunch of vests hanging around from the guy that was there before did you you had to make a decision like you can't be a vest guy right because the old vest guy just left yeah yeah no visors no vests you know you got to be got to be your own man you know how it is yeah no visors no vests plus i'm i'm going bald anyway so if i'm gonna wear a hat i might as well cover that up smart you got some good hair that's that that actually if if Dana listens to this that will probably be the one thing he gets mad about is that you just said you're going bald when his hair is hanging on yeah I mean Dana's hair you can do a whole podcast on Dana's hair alone I mean that's like that's like an hour conversation right there all right well coach thank you so much appreciate it. And best of luck the rest of the season.

Hey, when you guys get the DFW, man, y'all hit me up. If you don't stay at my house, it's gonna hurt my feelings.
Yeah. All right.
Done. Deal.
All right. Y'all take care of me.
I appreciate you. Take care, coach.
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Hank, Firefest

I got a couple

I mean one of them is Big Cat

just guaranteeing the trampoline thing

that's still getting figured out

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Thank you. guaranteeing the trampoline thing that's still getting figured out but i think it'll happen oh no i guarantee yeah that that was that was a bit of a fire fest that's kind of what i can guarantee you guys figure it out yeah right so figure it out what's your other fire fest that you that you didn't puke on a table you guys you and billy are just just smashing these jokes in the ground today.
Well, I have one from earlier.

I just miss my alarm.

I sleep with the ground today. Well, I have one from earlier.
I just miss my alarm. I sleep with the fan app.
Me and Big Cat are big fan app proponents. Yep.
And there's an alarm on that, and usually I set my alarm so the fan turns off, and I set that so it turns off like 20 or 30 minutes before my actual alarm goes off, because sometimes I'll wake up, and once I don't hear the fan, fan I'm like oh you know my alarm's about to go off in 20 minutes I woke up on wait I'm confused so the fan app stays on all night long yeah and then but it turns off 20 minutes before your alarm wakes you up yes and what's the reason for that just because sometimes I'll wake up once the fan app turning off will wake me up yeah and then I'm like'm like, yeah. And then I'm like, Oh, and then I'm like, Oh, it's, it's whatever time my alarm is about to go off.
I woke up on Tuesday. Well, refreshed.
Like I went to sleep late. You know, I was probably getting looking at like seven hours of sleep.
Woke up, you know, feeling great. Open my eyes.
I'm like, Oh, my fan, you know, the fans off. So it must be time to get up.
And then I checked my phone and it was like 10 30 uh and i was supposed to be in meetings and stuff and i so that was bad i had to just you know do the thing where i just sprinted to the train without even like putting anything on just that was that was not fun uh i just forgot i set my alarm for 8 the worst it ruins like multiple days because you just spend the rest of the day just being stressed that you were late and then setting you know when you're living alone, like, setting the alarm the next night, it's like, well, this didn't work last night. Like, fuck.
How can I guarantee that I'm going to actually wake up tomorrow? So that was a bit of a fire fest. And then I'm wearing this part of my cheesesteak fire suit.
Wanted to get your, you know, cringe slash ratio opinions. Like, what if I just wore this for the rest of the day? I like it.
To the airport. I like it.
To the event. I like it.
Yeah. I might.
Yes. I like it.
Do it. I think it looks great on you, Hank.
Yeah. People will be like, good luck in the race.
Big kid, I heard a little rumor about Hank. Hank, don't listen to this because I'm not sure if the rumor is true yet.
I was walking past our boss Erica's office the other day, and I just poked my head in to say hi. Our friend Gaz was in there.
Okay, bald head Paul? Bald head Paul, and he was working on some sort of document. He was like, hey, PFT, do you have any million-dollar ideas? Because we're about to do a company off-site with the executive committee of Barstool Sports, and I'm wondering if you have anything you can contribute.
I was like, well, yeah, and I gave him an idea right off the top of my head. I won't tell it because someone will steal it.
And I was like, it's kind of weird that I must have missed the invite on this off-site big planning committee. And he said, well, you can just tell Hank if you have any ideas because he's coming.
So Hank is apparently a member of the executive team of the company, and he's getting invited to all the off-sites.

How's that off-site going to go?

Okay, Hank,

you can start listening again.

I'm done talking.

You guys knew this.

Meh, I didn't know it.

I think I knew it. What do you think

when I turn into corporate Hank?

It is a great storyline,

you being corporate Hank.

I mean, it's all the C-levels.

Corporate Kane all over again.

Just walking around.

Gaz isn't C-level. He isn't? You're his boss, too? No, I'm not C-level either.
He lives in Miami. Wait, so are you going to crush it at this meeting? I mean, when it comes to ideas, I can rattle off ideas until the lights come on.
What metrics do we have to hit for you? What do you mean? What KPIs are going to be discussed? I honestly don't even know. Yeah, I don't either.
For youthful listeners, what's an offsite? It's where they just literally just spend money to go stay somewhere. Like they go down the street and they just get breakfast delivered.
Yeah, it's like a brainstorming meeting just at a different location. Slightly different location.
For all the really important people. It really was just just right down the street it was a hotel lobby they just do it so they then they can get like all the croissants and the fucking for fresh fruit delivered and be like wow we're really crushing it guys that's an off site is this a sleepaway off site that you're gonna be going to trust falls no are you gonna be doing uh zip lining i'll be here tuesday it's tuesday morning i can report tuesday night and escape room great all right the table clean uh pft your fire fest good uh my fire fest is i forgot about this until last week uh when i was reminded um i i unretired myself from playing rugby and next oh no next saturday i have a rugby game that I'm going to be playing in down at JMU.
Oh, no. I think we play against the JV team.
And I said that I had retired after last year because I was able to play like 30 minutes with no injuries. And at some point I decided to unretire that I don't remember.
I might have been under the influence of something and was talked into doing it. So I committed to doing this.
So I will be hopefully coming back in one piece next Sunday after the alumni game. Hopefully no bumps, no bruises, no broken bones.
I feel like talking you into one of these is the easiest thing in the world. I said no the first time, and then kept at it and they're like, yo, all these other guys are going back.
And I was like, fine, fuck it. I'll do it.
So yeah, it should be fun. You're playing the JV team.
Yeah. Well, it's, it's like a combination of their B side and a couple of guys from their A side.
They always play against the alumni because it's always on a weekend where our, our A side has a game scheduled. Like last year, I think we beat Delaware that weekend.
So we play our game. And then afterwards is the main game.
So, yeah, I haven't been running. I've been doing any exercise.
I've been lifting weights. So I'm going into this like completely unprepared.
You got this. You're you're a fucking you're a beast, dude.
I'm a beast. You're a beast.
i have a reverse fire fest for us i thought i'd share this story uh buff buff uh buffalo joe's it's in evanston uh just north of chicago great wing place awesome wing place you guys are gonna love it uh they hit me up the guy hit me up because uh one of his good friends was in the icu in a uh medically induced paralysis which i that sounds very serious, but he said this AWL Matt is his name. Shout out Matt.
I think he's doing better. But when he woke up, he asked to listen to part of my take.
So I thought that was something we should just, I wanted to share with you guys. One of those stories.
That's like, fuck, it's awesome. I love awesome that people, you know, we mean a lot to people and we kind of forget that sometimes.
So shout out Matt. Shout out Buff Joes.
And yeah, that's I mean, you could have probably asked for some water first. Yeah.
But I'm cool with you just asking to listen to part of my take. Yeah, that rocks.
Yeah. I would have asked for like Thunderstruck right as I wake up and then have that maybe lead into a podcast.
Very cool. So, yeah, reverse Fyre Fest.
Also, my other real Fyre Fest is I'm trying to bring wear flannels again and pft said are you doing a kirk cousins costume on monday and it hurt my feelings i actually yeah i walked into the office if you look at the video from from uh from the show that we just put out it hurt a lot uh i actually thought that big cat was wearing a kirk cousins he's like oh i thought it was that. Yeah, it hurt.
But that's OK. I'm I.
I don't know why I went away from flannels for so long because they are so comfortable. I'm back on flannels all the way.
Yeah. I was like, wait, is that Kirk Cousins? You're like, no, I'm just I'm wearing a flannel.
I'm trying to get back into. Yeah, yeah, I am.
I'm getting I'm heavily invested in flannels again. It was a big time like Kohl's Cash ask flannel Kirk Cousins style that you wore on Monday.
It looks good. It's going to be a transition to being back to wearing buttons.
You guys wearing collars always throws off the box. Yeah, no, I understand.
Like, I understand that I... You say it about PFT, but then I just became a mirror image of him where it's like, we just never put on a collar, always wear sweatshirts, and free t-shirts we were given.
So I just, flannels are so comfortable. Why don't I wear them more? That's what my, it has nothing to do with look.
They're just comfortable. So I was like, fuck it.
I'm going to go out, buy a few flannels. I'm going to go back into flannels.
Billy, you like it. I love flannels.
I try to rock as much part of my tank gear as I can. Company man.
Yeah. Just so like you for service.
Like these blue mountains that are coming out soon, maybe Black Friday. I'm just going to hint them.
Those are. That's a six shirt.
Pretty awesome. Yeah.
These hats are. Like rock flannels on weekends.
Yeah. And my Fyre Fest is, try not to complain about too many things these days.
You're doing awesome. Yeah.
Wait, so that's your FireFest? It's FireFest as he doesn't want to be negative. Right.
But. But.
You don't have a FireFest. My favorite.
We lost our basketball game and Billy gave us. I didn't.
Okay. I said we.
Whoa. Okay.
Now we got something. I didn't want to.
We did. I didn't want to make it two basketball games in a row on Firefest.
But really, there's an alleyway that goes between a city block from the train station to the office that cuts down the walk from the train station to the office. It's about to be a great, great excuse coming up.
It makes it literally two minutes, but then you have to go around the city block if you don't use it. It's a gauntlet.
Total war zone. What happened in the basketball game? I fouled with a minute left.
I got free throws. Was it a bad foul? No.
Were you reaching? This is what happened. We were down.
We were pressing to tie the game back up. You guys run a press? Yeah.
It was actually successful. It was successful.
We came back. You guys played zone too? But this was kind of classic, like rec league basketball.
We came back, tied the game, and then kept the pressure on and fouled. So did you foul at the end of the shot clock? And then Billy got an offensive foul.
Which was bullshit. I was going up trying to draw the foul.
And they called the foul on me. So it sounds like they got the call right because you just admitted you were going up for the sole purpose of drawing a foul.
Billy, so you pressed successfully then. How much time was left on the shot clock when you fouled? There's no shot clock.
Okay. There's none? Why don't you guys play four corners when you're up? Well, we were tied.
We're not really capable of doing that. We tied the game up.
We should have just laid off the press. Yeah.
Just got to stop. Got the ball back.
We just figured out our zone offense. Nice.
Nice. Yeah.
What, you just put a big guy at the foul line? Yeah, and then I run the baseline. Yeah.
It's fine. Yeah, it's high-level stuff.
You just figured it out. Yeah.
That's a pretty easy zone, Peter. Yeah, yeah i know but we reached the point where it was like we gotta do something yeah we actually have to pass to the guy standing at the foul line to to get some people open in the zone i like it um all right jake yeah so last night i was at 7-eleven getting powerball tickets at 1.5 billion yeah whoa and I got asked if I was 18.
Oh, really? That's good. Yeah, dude.
No, it's good. You look young.

I feel like. night i was at 7-eleven getting powerball tickets at 1.5 billion yeah whoa and the guy asked if i

was 18 oh really that's good yeah but like no it's good you look like for 21 it's good but 18

is different there's a uh there's a point in your 20s that you reach where it becomes cool yeah

to get like so right now if you get carded for anything it's kind of inconvenient carded for

21 though is at some point at some point yeah that's true did you win no if you win what

Thank you. Buy the Commanders? Yeah, buy the Commanders.
Yeah. Okay.
Oh, well, is that even enough? Yeah. What is it, 1.5 bill? Yeah, well, tax.
Not even close. So when Snyder bought the team, I think he only had like 350 mil of the 700 that he needed and he financed the rest you can just borrow the rest yeah we can borrow the rest yeah it's IOU yeah we'll just we'll just you know what we'll just give an IOU be like we'll win we'll win this again we'll win the power ball we have a system don't worry yeah uh match yeah right Exactly.
Match the 700 mil. Yeah.
At post tax. Okay, numbers.

69. I'm so in his head.
I wasn't even planning on saying it. You got to put that back.
I wasn't even planning on saying it. I'm going to take 18.
Everyone have a great weekend. 92.
Good luck to the Phils, the Fightins. What was your number, Hank? 17.
I'll go 16. What's you? 92.
92, max 20. 18 and 69.
Hank, have you ever gotten this? Have you, though? Nope. Have you ever come in off air and just tested it?

No.

Did you see someone actually gave you the key to the next number and you didn't listen to him?

70.

Oh, shit.

He got a digit.

He got a digit.

Did you see someone told you that?

A guy on Hank's stream said,

Hank, whatever Roquan Smith picks as his number for the Ravens will be the next number.

He picked 18. And Hank read it out loud, so he internalized it.
So someone gave you the answer and you still can't get the number. I didn't even know that.
Fifth time. I do remember reading it now, though.
Yeah. Love you guys.
Angus Barberi once fasted for 382 days

Surviving only on vitamins and water

And lost 250 pounds. And lived another 30 years.
You've been turning these animal facts into human facts. Humans are animals.
Yeah, I know. It's creepy.
Isn't this crazy? This guy literally used all... He was morbidly obese, and he used all of his fat to survive for a year.
Yeah, that's wild. He survived.
Love you guys. I'm talking away.
I don't know what to say. I'd say it anyway.
Today is my day to find you shining. I'll be coming for your lover to pray.
Needless to say. I want to send it Thank you.
It's no better to be safe than sorry. Say unto me.

It's no better to be safe than sorry.

Take me. Take me.

Take me.

Take me.

I'll be.

Take me.

Take me. I love you You're the dream of the time

Things that you say

Is it light, though?

Just to blame and worry

You're all the things

I've got to remember

When you're shying away

I'll be coming for you anyway

When you're shying away

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I'll make you.

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