Michael Irvin In Studio, NFL Trade Deadline, Nets Clown Show, 1 Question With Chase Daniel And Hot Seat/Cool Throne

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A crazy day in sports and we start with the Phillies going up 2-1 (00:01:50-00:10:13). NFL Trade deadline was insane with teams going all in and the Bears making trades for the future (00:10:13-00:30:28). Monday Night Football recap and College Football (00:30:28-00:47:52). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (00:47:52-01:07:00). Michael Irvin in studio to talk NFL, the White House and tons more (01:07:00-01:51:38). 1 Question with a Quarterback with Chase Daniel (01:51:38-02:06:23) and we finish with guys on chicks (02:06:23-02:21:21).


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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have a great interview with Michael Irvin, Playmaker in studio.

Speaker 1 Talk about getting pumped up. He is the man who gets you pumped up.
Michael Irvin, great interview. We also have one question with a quarterback, Chase Daniel.
Also great.

Speaker 1 We're going to recap NFL trade deadline, World Series Game 3.

Speaker 1 Talk a little Monday Night Football cleanup.

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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, November 2nd, and the fightings

Speaker 1 are looking fucking good. Said, said,

Speaker 1 Max, said Sed. Oh, hey, Max just,

Speaker 1 I love that Max is like, Max is a producer. What are we supposed to do?

Speaker 1 What are we supposed to do?

Speaker 1 We're going to have to turn that down. We're going to have to turn that down or bleep it because he just screamed.
We'll bleep it.

Speaker 2 To be fair, Max doesn't have that much much experience working with audio levels or recording.

Speaker 1 He just screamed, said in the microphone so loud, people probably crashed their cars. But that's how Philly is feeling right now.
Just dong after dong after dong against the Astros. Up 7-0 right now

Speaker 1 as we're watching. And this actually makes me not want to say the thing I'm about to say, but I'm going to say it anyway.

Speaker 1 Max, the... Phillies are now up 2-1,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 That is correct. Okay, I just wanted to make...

Speaker 1 it. I just wanted to make sure that you could talk in a normal voice there.
All right, so they're up 2-1. Game 4 is Wednesday night.
If the Phillies win game four,

Speaker 1 would that mean they could clinch in Philadelphia on Thursday night? That is correct.

Speaker 1 Okay, so if we get to that point, if the Phillies are up 3-1 going into Thursday night, Max and Jake are going to the game with game time to document it for pardon my take.

Speaker 1 Said.

Speaker 1 Said. Shut up.
Oh, no. Don't tell me you have a no.
No, no, no, no, I gotta go to the next one. You motherfucker.

Speaker 6 That would be the best day of my life.

Speaker 1 He's gonna be like, all right,

Speaker 1 I have tickets to the App State game. Sorry, guys.

Speaker 1 You seem

Speaker 2 you were like so nervous coming into tonight's game.

Speaker 1 I was.

Speaker 2 You were shook, but now it's like, you were, I think you truly believe that you're going to sweep the rest of the games. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is. Why not? They're undefeated.

Speaker 6 You know how it gets

Speaker 6 in a seven-game series, it's ups and downs. You get very confident.

Speaker 3 You get very low.

Speaker 6 It's day by day.

Speaker 1 I will change my opinion pitch by pitch of whether we're going to win. You might play off baseball.

Speaker 2 There might be a pitcher pitching in the next game whose off-speed pitches you don't see coming a mile away. That might be the thing.

Speaker 2 McCullers was tipping all of his pitches tonight, and you saw it from the start.

Speaker 2 Bryce, when he went yard, he told everybody in the Phillies dugout, he's like, this guy's tipping his pitches. A bunch of stuff went viral online where you could see like the high leg kick.

Speaker 2 You could see the back leg being straight. And the Phillies hit all their home runs off sinkers, curves, change-ups, things like that.

Speaker 1 It's just smart baseball. Dog.

Speaker 7 It's very smart baseball.

Speaker 2 It's very smart. I'm not saying that's cheating at all.
It's very smart baseball. Dusty Baker, on the other hand, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 1 Maybe after like the fourth home run. Well, as soon as it goes, when it's trending on Twitter, someone in the advanced scouting department.

Speaker 2 I don't Anyone in the Astros Clubhouse is using electronics to monitor this.

Speaker 1 Computers sitting in the hallway right there ready for you. Yeah.
But yes, Max, you will be going to the game

Speaker 1 via game time.

Speaker 6 Well,

Speaker 6 we got to win the...

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, but we just wanted to let you know because on Thursday, PFT Hank and I are going to the we're doing some upfronts in Chicago, so we won't be in studio.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you will be going with Jake, documenting all of it.

Speaker 1 And if the Phillies can somehow win the World Series on Thursday night, we're going to have a drunk Max and Jake from the streets of Philadelphia live on the show.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we just need Jake to go to make sure Max stays in one piece.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just so he can translate what Max is saying.

Speaker 1 I need a babysitter. That's fine.
We're rooting for you because

Speaker 1 to have, it would be really incredible if you joined the podcast three months ago and we just added another World Series

Speaker 1 to this show that isn't the New York Yankees.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 It'd be great.

Speaker 1 I would appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be great.

Speaker 2 A dynasty.

Speaker 2 Part of my take becomes a dynasty at that point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we would. We would have, what, four and six? That's a dynasty.
That's pretty good. That is.
Four and seven.

Speaker 4 People say I'm a Philly's haters, a Philly hater, but I saw when you see the crowd reaction, like their reaction to those dongs was like, Max has got to be in there.

Speaker 1 He's got to be in the legend.

Speaker 2 It's like a different species of people compared to what you see in Houston. Like Houston fans, yeah, they like, they clap.
They look like they're having a good time.

Speaker 2 They wear silly little space helmets and look like astronauts. But like in Philly, like they live for this shit.

Speaker 1 Every guy in Philly just looks like he's about to get in a fight, but then you could just like flash a Coors light in front of his face. He's like, ooh, shiny object.
Even the old dudes.

Speaker 2 The old dudes in Philly could kick my ass. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, there was that one clip where the guy caught the foul ball, and then him and his buddy were just yugging beers, and it looked like they had just won the World Series. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It looked like what Max was saying after game one when he's like, it's better than a Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 It is. I mean, there's something about a baseball big play that, like, there's so much built-up nerves going into each pitch that it just, you just explode when something, something happens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and playoff baseball is also, it's, you know, football is king.

Speaker 1 We love football, but something about playoff baseball, and it goes the same kind of for NBA and NHL, but because the playoffs take so many weeks, it just becomes part of your life.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like every night it's your life and it becomes so like intimate to you, the whole team. So yeah, it's fun.
It's awesome to watch.

Speaker 2 I don't think there's anything cooler looking in sports than a dong, a massive tater that gets whacked in the middle of the night. Yeah.
And the ball like leaving the yard against the black night sky.

Speaker 7 That's October.

Speaker 1 Schwerber's going just dead center, and he just goes to his knee and he just threw his bat. Like, come on.
Of course, I fucking know. There's something about a Schwarber.
Oh,

Speaker 3 they're unlike anything else.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because Schwarber's played for all the other things we've all experienced. That's the other thing we've all experienced.

Speaker 1 The lefty swing. Not the Yankees.

Speaker 1 Not the Yankees. They need a guy like Schwerber.
The compact swing, and he just murders baseballs.

Speaker 2 Also, shout out Joe Girardi for getting fired this year, huh?

Speaker 7 Does he get a ring?

Speaker 1 Of course. Have to.
He has to. Wait, we should.

Speaker 1 We'll slow down a little bit, Max. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what? Max. Max, do you want to throw a pizza party?

Speaker 1 Max, we got a little ahead of ourselves.

Speaker 1 Max, four hours ago, I thought I was dead. You want to throw a pizza party for the team if they win this?

Speaker 2 No, say no.

Speaker 1 No. No pizza party? No pizza party.

Speaker 6 No, no, zero.

Speaker 2 But yeah, Joe definitely he's in the parade. But we had to tell you that he comes to the banner day next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Listen, we had to tell you tonight about you going to game five potentially because we want, you know, this podcast is a family and the listeners are part of the family.
We want them.

Speaker 1 If you don't have a rooting interest, if you're not an Astros fan or a Phillies fan, now you have something to root for. Jake Marsh going, taking Batgirl to Philly

Speaker 4 and watching

Speaker 6 taking me like on a leap.

Speaker 1 Yes, no, I actually

Speaker 2 like taking like a

Speaker 2 11-year-old rescue dog that's never been outside to a dog park for the first time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we need to put like a name tag on you with Jake's contact.

Speaker 4 It's like Jake being a documentarian going to the wild.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jake's going to say shit that is cool. You thought Two of Fingers was bad.
Oh, man. We should actually make Jake go as an astronaut.
No, no.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 We should double go, bro. Oh, really? And have him go as an Astros fan and just watch both just fucking unfold.

Speaker 7 Max, are you going to climb a light pole?

Speaker 1 No, don't answer it. Don't answer it.
He's trying to get you into it. Don't answer it.

Speaker 6 I also don't think I'm capable. I'm athletically capable.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you do.

Speaker 2 Under the right circumstances.

Speaker 1 You can bench more than Billy.

Speaker 2 If Billy wins World Series, the adrenaline will carry you right up that pole. Let's stop.

Speaker 1 All right, okay, all right, all right. All right, so that's game, that's game three.
That sets the stage.

Speaker 2 Like I said, Jake's going to come back with a thousand-yard stare looking like a Vietnam veteran.

Speaker 1 If you're rooting for content, root for the Phillies to win Wednesday night so that we can get them live reporting on the scene for that game.

Speaker 1 So NFL trade deadline. We had the craziest day in sports.
NFL trade deadline was insane.

Speaker 1 Bradley Chubb to the Dolphins, Jeff Wilson to the Dolphins,

Speaker 1 Calvin Ridley to the Jaguars, TJ Hawkinson to the Vikings. Bears get Chase Claypool.
They traded RoCon Smith on Monday. Chaos.

Speaker 2 Yeah, all the shit that never happens at the NFL trade deadline happened this year because there's never any movement. It's always like the biggest story that never ends up being a story.

Speaker 2 And then Schefter tweets out, like, well, there were a lot of talks and a lot of deals that almost got done, but nothing did.

Speaker 2 But now we can officially say the Miami Dolphins have joined the ranks of the Baltimore Ravens and the San Francisco Fannie Niners.

Speaker 1 And the Vikings.

Speaker 2 And the Vikings to a certain extent.

Speaker 1 Getting Getting TJ Hawkinson.

Speaker 2 Oh, they got him because Irv Smith is out.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I'm going to say that those three teams especially are all in right now.

Speaker 2 Those are the most all-in teams.

Speaker 2 I actually really like what McDaniel did.

Speaker 2 I like getting a quarterback because basically you need somebody that will harass a quarterback if you want to win in the AFC.

Speaker 1 I actually was going to say, Bradley Chubb is awesome, and he's going to be great for them.

Speaker 1 They sent a first-round pick, which I saw it, and it was basically all the picks they got for the Trey Lance trade, which Trey Lance has been injured this year. Not his fault, but he's been injured.

Speaker 1 They got, I think it was Jalen Waddell, Tyree Kill, and Bradley Chubb, like through different trades. Obviously, more picks involved, but they flipped it for three really good players.

Speaker 4 And then

Speaker 1 I actually think Jeff Wilson is like the sneaky best move of the day because you have a running back who knows the Shanahan system who can now run Mike McDaniel's system. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like that was, that's one of those ones where it just, it's under the radar because there are bigger names, including a bigger name going to the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 But I saw that and I was like, fuck, that was genius.

Speaker 2 No, that's, that's a very smart move. I just like Chuck because you have to have a guy to get through the AFC that's capable of taking a,

Speaker 2 you know, top of the world quarterback and just making him have like an average day. Yeah.
And the only way really that you can do that is by having somebody that'll hit him up a few times.

Speaker 1 So what do you, what do you think, Jake? Dolphins all in. How you feeling?

Speaker 8 I love it.

Speaker 9 I mean, I think I said this to you before we recorded, but saw what the Rams did last year, and teams are like, you have to go all in.

Speaker 8 Like, picks are picks.

Speaker 1 Sure, you don't know if picks will pan out, but it's proven that if you go all in, like, it's worked.

Speaker 2 Yeah, sometimes you can go all in and drown, though. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's been done before.

Speaker 2 It's a weird situation for a rookie head coach to be at this place already where he's like, okay, my nuts are on the table. We're going to win this year.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think it speaks also to, besides the Chiefs and the Bills, who obviously are in the AFC and the Eagles, like, there's just a bunch of teams at that same level. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 That are at that two games above 500 or 500, and everyone's trying to jockey. And it's like, this could be winnable.
You know, you never know what happens in the playoffs. This could be winnable.

Speaker 1 We could take a shot here. And I know the Bills have looked like the clear favorites above everyone else, but fuck, get in the playoffs, roll the dice.
And yeah, the Ravens, too.

Speaker 2 Brandon Cooks really wanted to get traded, he really wanted to get traded. He was liking tweets being like, Yo, the Cowboys need a second receiver, yeah, and nothing happened.

Speaker 2 The Cowboys didn't really do anything either, did they?

Speaker 1 No, they're

Speaker 1 ready to roll, yeah. So, I'm it was exciting.
Like, you don't get to see trade deadlines like that.

Speaker 2 The Bills got a running back, yeah. Who'd they get? Naheem Hines.

Speaker 1 Yep, that's right. So, that's yeah, and it also was, it should be said, the Broncos, like imagine being Bruss Wilson.
Like, they basically were like, fuck this.

Speaker 1 We suck. Yeah.
You sucked.

Speaker 2 You're like, Russell,

Speaker 2 not only are we not going to make the playoffs, but also your contract is so bad for us that we have to start thinking about the future.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah,

Speaker 1 we have such regret on everything that took place that we need to get picks back as fast as possible. Yeah.
And so they've started the process of getting picks back.

Speaker 2 It's so interesting in the NFL.

Speaker 2 Once you get players, if you draft a player that you're like, this guy might be a stud, you already have to start planning about, okay, when am I going to trade this guy away for more picks?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or pay him a ton of of money.

Speaker 2 And then, if you draft enough studs, then you're like, well, I'm going to have to trade one of the.

Speaker 2 That's what the Broncos are doing right now because they have some good young players and they're doing the mental math where they're like, I need to get rid of one of these guys because we're going to have a log jam.

Speaker 2 We have two wide receivers that we're going to have to end up paying in a little bit. We've got a quarterback that's taking all of our money.
And then we've got

Speaker 2 a cornerback. Then we've got

Speaker 2 a great linebacker that's going to have to go eventually. So one of these guys has to not be here anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then I do, obviously the Bears are the team that made a bunch of moves, but are not all in.

Speaker 1 And I loved everything they did because Roquan Smith was not going to re-sign with the Bears. It fell apart last summer.
The Bears would have been stupid to franchise tag an off-ball linebacker.

Speaker 1 Like, you don't...

Speaker 1 You have to be able to rush the quarterback if you're going to get premiere like top dollar.

Speaker 1 And they're like, hey, as good as Roquan is, and I love watching him play, he's not going to be here, so let's get something for him.

Speaker 1 They trade him for a two and a five, and then today they go and get Chase Claypool.

Speaker 1 And I know people say they overpaid a little bit because it was the Bears' second round, not the Ravens' second-round pick. But

Speaker 1 it's the argument that everyone made in the offseason that the Bears were ruining Justin Fields by not getting him anyone.

Speaker 1 You can't then complain that they went and got someone who is controlled for another year, very, very cheap, big, tall, fast, everything. Like, you need that for Justin Fields.
And

Speaker 1 I got my guy. I'm feeling confident about having my guy.
I have, I have a guy. He is the guy.

Speaker 2 Counterpoint, you got fleeced.

Speaker 1 Officially, no, he's officially the guy. Fleeced.
Fleeced. Build around Justin Fields.
Everything else doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 It's just so fun to tell people they got fleeced.

Speaker 1 Fleeced. Fleece.
Fleece.

Speaker 1 It's awesome.

Speaker 2 More than anything, I love the people that just reply to an Adam Schefter tweet about a trade, just fleeced immediately.

Speaker 1 And they don't clarify who got fleeced, but they don't even say that.

Speaker 2 Somebody got fleeced. They don't even release the picks.

Speaker 1 Either like fleece.

Speaker 2 Yeah, either you're doing the fleecing or you're getting fleece.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I'm yeah, I as much Ryan Poles has an A-plus rating for me, approval rating for me, because he's done everything to get the Bears to a position where they will have full flexibility, and now they're starting to be like, hey, like he went into this offseason, here he went into this season being like, I didn't draft Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 I have to see it. Like, I'm not going to just start going and grabbing wide receivers and hoping that he's good.

Speaker 1 And I really do think this last month, like the way he's played, he's seen enough flashes with guys that are like Darnell Mooney's maybe a three on a good team.

Speaker 1 He's seen enough flashes to be like, you know what?

Speaker 1 Let's start the process of rebuilding this roster and helping you out.

Speaker 2 What are the Steelers thinking, though? Like at the other end of it, if you have a young quarterback, you'd like to keep your weapons around him that you have.

Speaker 1 I think they George Pickens probably, you know, drafting him. He looks like he could be very, very good.
They already have Deontay Johnson. I also, that's the other part of this trade I love.

Speaker 1 What team drafts better than anyone? It's Pittsburgh Steelers wide receivers. Yeah, and also go trade for one.

Speaker 2 Also, if this whole Justin Fields thing doesn't pan out, Chase Claypool's got a hell of a left arm on him.

Speaker 1 Justin Fields is going to pan out.

Speaker 2 That was a great two-yard touchdown pass that he threw on Sunday.

Speaker 1 I should actually clarify. Justin Fields might not pan out because the Bears might ruin him, but he is the guy.

Speaker 2 Also, it's just cool to have a Canadian on the street.

Speaker 1 You're laughing at me.

Speaker 4 I love your enthusiasm.

Speaker 4 I believe you've come to the conclusion today.

Speaker 1 I'm all in.

Speaker 1 My heart is all out.

Speaker 1 Everything is all in. There's no way this is going to backfire.

Speaker 1 There's no way this is going to end in tragic, tragic heartbreak for me.

Speaker 1 I want to say that I felt this way about Mitch, but I never felt this way about Mitch. I didn't feel this way about Cutler either.
And I believe, I told myself, yeah. Yeah, I tried to tell myself.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's just fault.

Speaker 1 I felt this way about Kyle Orton.

Speaker 1 He's the guy.

Speaker 7 He's the guy. He's a guy.

Speaker 1 No, he's the guy.

Speaker 1 I love Jay. You guys are going to be jealous that I found a guy.

Speaker 2 I understand. No, I'm not jealous.

Speaker 1 I'm not jealous. No, it's fine.
He's a guy. I have a guy.

Speaker 1 You have a guy. I have a guy.

Speaker 7 So does Max.

Speaker 1 I hope you guys are happy.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm very happy in my relationship with my guy. I hope you are.
Me and my guy are going to live forever.

Speaker 1 We're going to be laughing about this in 20 years, sitting on the front porch, holding each other in our arms.

Speaker 2 In retirement?

Speaker 1 Yeah, in retirement, just fucking rings all over the place. It's going to be great.

Speaker 1 Don't tell us you got a guy. G.
Billy.

Speaker 7 Wait, which guy are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Not Billy.

Speaker 1 No, no. Billy, you're Polly.
You know. Billy, no.

Speaker 10 Sometimes you got a guyism, but it just needs a little fixing.

Speaker 2 Billy's into... Everything's fixable.

Speaker 3 Did you hear what Orlando?

Speaker 2 Billy, you're and you, Mormon guy, are into polygy me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Did you hear what Orlovsky said about Zach Wilson today?

Speaker 10 Yeah, he's got to stop fudging.

Speaker 1 No, he said, grow the fudge up.

Speaker 1 Grow the fudge up.

Speaker 2 Actually, Dan, why don't you grow the fudge up?

Speaker 1 I just love that he he said.

Speaker 2 I don't like that language on my TV.

Speaker 1 I can't swear on TV. Let me use fudge.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it was a crazy day. And then,

Speaker 1 so that was NFL. NFL.
So we had like NFL trade deadline, a World Series game. Maxion came back.
All these things.

Speaker 2 This is our version of that 30 for 30 where they had the World Cup, the New York Rangers playing, the Knicks playing, O.J. Simpson trial.
That all happened in the span of about like 30 years.

Speaker 2 30 OJ Simpson on the rollout.

Speaker 1 Oh, it was on the roaddown. Yeah, LeBron.
LeBron

Speaker 1 and Stanley Cup. On top of all of it,

Speaker 1 the Nets fire, some were calling him Steve Trash, Steve Nash. And then, like, two hours later, from the clouds, I think Shams had it first.

Speaker 1 Ime Udoka is going to be the next Nets head coach.

Speaker 2 It happened less than two hours. It happened almost immediately.
So there was the initial report that Steve Nash was being fired.

Speaker 2 And then the report came out clarifying that, saying, actually, he's not fired. It was mutual.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kendrick Perkins had an unbelievable tweet about at the same time.

Speaker 2 No, I just thought it was very nice that it was mutual.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kendrick Perkins, which I didn't know, I didn't know he had this in him because he's

Speaker 1 an ESPN guy, so I thought they weren't allowed to.

Speaker 2 No, Perkins say whatever he wants.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he can say whatever the fuck he wants. He said, mutual decision.
What the fuck is that? Nets, you're fired. Steve Nash, I agree.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Carry the hell on.

Speaker 1 Great tweet. It really is.
Like, the mutual decision.

Speaker 2 They both agreed that he sucked at his his job and should be fired.

Speaker 1 I do like the Nets. What they've done is they're like, it's gotten so crazy, and it is such a shit show here.

Speaker 1 Let's add the one coach that is supposedly, like, toxic and has been suspended for an unprecedented year suspension from the Celtics, and we still don't really know what he did. Let's bring him in.

Speaker 1 Like, I kind of respect being like, the circus is so crazy. Let's just make it crazy.

Speaker 2 The craziest part of all this, I think, is that

Speaker 2 this conversation has been going on behind the scenes for a while. Oh, yeah.
They didn't just decide to hire Emei 30 minutes after they fired Steve Nash.

Speaker 2 And I don't know, like, I don't know what happened in Boston, but it doesn't seem like Emei would be the kind of guy that would go around another man's back.

Speaker 1 And what did happen like that?

Speaker 2 I don't know. Because he certainly did.
It looked like he did it with Steve Nash because he was talking about another man's job. He was taking interviews with the Nets before Steve Nash was fired.

Speaker 2 Now, the Celtics, they, for whatever reason, didn't fire him. They kept him around after suspending him.
And they also let him interview and go coach a different team. For free.

Speaker 1 For survival. For free.

Speaker 1 No picks or anything. He's just walking out the door, walking to the Nets.
Hank.

Speaker 4 Crazy story. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Not sure how to feel.

Speaker 1 I think you got to feel bad because this is what he won Coach of the Year last year, right?

Speaker 4 He was a great coach. He led them to the championship.
It's hard to,

Speaker 4 I just don't get how they got nothing out of it and why they just let him walk.

Speaker 2 It sounds like they're psyched to have him not be their problem anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and also not be fucking their wives anymore.

Speaker 2 It would have been a real problem, I think, for them to try to integrate himself back into

Speaker 2 the locker room and into the team. And so now they're like, thank God the Nets solved this problem for us.
We don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 1 And he's a very good coach because, I mean, that's stating the obvious because he went to the finals last year.

Speaker 1 But I think there's a revisionist history out there with where the Celtics ended up and where they started this year. The Celtics, remember, in like December last year, were dead.
They were terrible.

Speaker 1 And people were giving up on, remember all the talks about how you had to trade Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown? And Ime Odoka just got them back together and got them to the fucking finals.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, it's hard. I mean, he was an unbelievable coach.
He's an ultimate. I mean, that's the thing.
It's hard to really say because you don't know exactly what happened behind the scenes.

Speaker 4 I don't think it had anything to do with the players. And he was a great coach for them.
He got him fired up. And

Speaker 4 with all the star power, he kept them together and kind of alphaed them and was like, just suck it up and play as a team.

Speaker 4 I don't know that this new coach is going to be able to do that. And he's probably going to be good for the Nets.
And that's a problem within the division.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
What if the Nets get figured out? See, the thing is, though, I think you don't have to be that worried because I think the Nets are so dysfunctional right now. Bulls beat him tonight.

Speaker 1 Bulls are back. Yeah, I think it's crazy that when this happened, I thought to myself,

Speaker 1 unlocks him, makes him shoot right-handed.

Speaker 2 It's not a bad idea.

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 when this story broke, I was like,

Speaker 2 no one wants to coach this team. No one in their right.
You'd either have to be.

Speaker 1 I don't know how he's going to do that.

Speaker 2 You'd either have to be insane or unemployed to take the Nets job. And they went with option B, which was Emei.
Because there's so much shit going on in Brooklyn right now.

Speaker 2 It's probably the most thankless job in the world.

Speaker 3 You've got head cases all all over the place.

Speaker 1 Although, if you've got a fan base that's pissed off at two out of the three superstars that you're supposed to have on your team, but if you can get them to even respectable at this point with how bad they've been playing and how bad they went out last year, like it is a thankless job, but if they got, let's say, the three seed, I think you'd like that was an incredible, like, he's the best coach of all time.

Speaker 2 Three seeds, not bad.

Speaker 1 They are bad right now, but it's a complete dumpster fire. It is.
Like, there's a story every day. I mean Ben Simmons is he's back to being hurt, I think.
He didn't play tonight or last night.

Speaker 1 They almost lost to the Pacers who are tanking.

Speaker 1 Now it's Emay.

Speaker 1 I can see it in your eyes, Hank. I don't like it.

Speaker 1 I'm not a fan of it. You're afraid of

Speaker 1 very well could happen. He could go in there and make it.

Speaker 4 And I'm not even worried about the Nets as much as I'm. It's more just like,

Speaker 4 what if something, you know, the Celtics went to the championship last year? If there's a regression

Speaker 4 and it's like, you know, it comes back to you wish you had a coach like Emei, that that would suck.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what about if you run into him in the playoffs? That would be kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 8 Celtics is Sunday, December 4th.

Speaker 1 I don't think we don't even know when he's going to get to coach.

Speaker 4 More shit has to come out, though. Like, he's going to have to do press.
He's going to have to do interviews. Well, I mean, they haven't said anything.

Speaker 4 He doesn't say anything publicly.

Speaker 1 They could just have Kyrie do the interview for him and be like, well, I'm a basketball coach. Why are you asking me about fucking someone's wife?

Speaker 2 It's interesting because

Speaker 1 if Eme does have to do it, clearly

Speaker 2 the people that are keeping it quiet are the same people that would be bringing Emei back to the Celtics.

Speaker 2 Now that he's gone behind their backs directly and went to a rival, the people that were keeping all the secrets have really no need to keep his secrets anymore unless it involves them directly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 I mean, it would be like

Speaker 1 if Belichick fucked Robert Kraft's new wife and then got suspended and then

Speaker 1 next year was like, I'm coaching the Jets now.

Speaker 4 That'd be. Yeah, I don't think that has anything to do with this story, but if that happened, that would be crazy.

Speaker 1 I don't think they're related. What do you mean?

Speaker 4 I just don't get the... Yeah,

Speaker 4 that's a sports coach.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 I don't know what happened with Emay.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 You're playing that game. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I guess I don't know either.

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 this is going to get a whole lot more interesting.

Speaker 1 Same.

Speaker 1 I mean, what i think you know once the details come out they come out but yeah clearly the celtics that's what that's what is new coach pretty good though yeah he is good but he's he's unknown emai obviously won coach of the year and led them to the championship i all right i'm gonna make you feel better hank i don't think you have to worry about the nets and i know that what it sucks that e-may's gone because he is a very good coach but the nets are not i actually do not think they're fixable i really don't i hope not i i tend to agree except i think that if you have kevin durant on your team you can maybe be fixed but he doesn't want to be there either.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but if you.

Speaker 4 But he didn't like Steve Nash and he loves Eme. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he pitched Steve Nash.

Speaker 4 But, yeah, but he, you know, wishy-washy.

Speaker 2 I also think that you can work around Ben Simmons and Kyrie being weirdos because at the end of the day, you've proven that you can play without them and not be god-awful all the time.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, it could work with Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's going to be a crazy day.
Crazy day.

Speaker 1 Max

Speaker 1 said.

Speaker 6 Do it. do it.

Speaker 1 Said. Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're going to get to the rest of the show.

Speaker 1 We talked Monday Night Football, Hot Seat, Cool Throne, Michael Irvin, Chase Daniel, guys on.

Speaker 1 I feel like we've been in the studio 17 times today because we actually recorded, if there's a weird edit, did it make sense, Max, when you listen back?

Speaker 1 If there's a weird edit, we did the Roquan Smith talk after the Monday Night Football talk, and then when everything got traded today, we're just like, well, fuck it, let's just do it all at once.

Speaker 1 So, um, yeah, it's fine. We've just been, we've just been in these in front of me.

Speaker 1 We did every segment at a different time in front of these microphones for the entire 12-hour podcast that we've done today.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 1 And that's hand up on me a little bit because I just forgot that today was the trade deadline until like three trades happened. I was like, wait, what's up today?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but also, we did, spoiler alert, we did two separate lottery machine things.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And will Hank get it?

Speaker 1 Because I it was.

Speaker 7 One of them was not for the machine.

Speaker 1 No, I know. Oh, I know that.
I know that.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying. He gets an extra.
What's crazy is we did the first Lotto Machine thing so long ago. I forget if Hank got it or not.

Speaker 1 Did you get it? Tune in to find out. All right, tune in to find out.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Another one. We're going to kick it back to ourselves.
What? Another number. No, no, we're not.

Speaker 1 I can sense the way this is going. We're going to just, and I want to, Billy, but I really don't want him to get it.

Speaker 2 No, Billy just wanted you to say yes so he could say 69 and call it a video.

Speaker 1 No. Okay.

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Speaker 1 Okay, back to ourselves. Okay, Monday night football.
The Browns are back. And the Bengals.

Speaker 1 Are the Bengals in trouble? The Bengals start there.

Speaker 2 The Bengals are back to losing against the Browns. Yeah.
Joe Burrow just is owned by the Browns.

Speaker 2 Certain teams just own certain matchups for whatever reason. And this is definitely one of them.
Obviously, it has a lot to do with Jamar Chase not being there.

Speaker 2 Jamar Chase makes a little bit of a difference because he's a guy that Joe Burrow, if the pass rush is coming after him, just like give the ball to Jamar and let him run away.

Speaker 2 That's kind of the game plan instead of doing like a real hot route setup. It's just like, get the ball to Jamar before Miles Garrett gets to me and we can win this game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, Jamar Chase, I mean, he's one of the best receivers in the NFL, so not having him is a huge loss, but the Bengals offensive line looked like it regressed on Monday, which is the one thing that if you're a Bengals fan, like you just have that in the back of your head at all times.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, are we going to be able to block anyone today? Oh, we can't. This sucks.

Speaker 1 I was looking at it because the Bengals are now 0-3 in the division. They're 4-4 overall.

Speaker 1 I'm not really nervous about them because I still think that they're a talented team and I trust Joe Burrow, but it was...

Speaker 1 It's like as you get later in the season, you can't keep having games like you had on Monday night where they looked terrible. Like, they looked really, really bad.
And the Browns, Browns,

Speaker 1 the Browns have to be the most maddening team to root for this,

Speaker 1 obviously forever, you know, because they suck, but this specific year, because when they look good, they look like they could beat literally anyone, but they've looked so bad for that four-game losing streak or whatever it was, five-game losing streak, that it's got to drive you nuts.

Speaker 1 If you are a Browns fan and you're thinking, oh, Deshaun Watson is coming back in November, late November, you just keep looking at that Jets loss.

Speaker 1 You keep looking at that Chargers loss, loss, like all these games. That if they flip and you were treading water a little bit more, you'd feel so much more confident.

Speaker 1 And they have some tough games coming up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they've got all the ingredients to be a good team, too, which must be very frustrating.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Because it might, like, if you're a Browns fan, it seems very simple to be like, Kevin, run the fucking football. Like, let's not overthink this.
We've got Nick Chubb. Kareem Hunt is a great backup.

Speaker 2 And Dernis Johnson is a great backup backup running back, too. So, and you've got maybe the best offensive line, or one of the the best offensive lines, and the best offensive line coach in football.

Speaker 2 It's just

Speaker 1 run the fucking ball.

Speaker 2 It's not even run the damn ball for them. It's just like, dude, pull your head out of your ass and just run the ball.

Speaker 1 Or throw it to Amari Cooper, who's back.

Speaker 2 He's back fifth-round pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was like it was fun watching him just like streak down the sideline and be like, oh, yeah, Amari Cooper. Yeah, I was ready to say, he's really good.

Speaker 2 I was ready to say Amari Cooper's washed, but no, he's just in Cleveland, which is kind of the same thing sometimes. Yes.
But just run the ball.

Speaker 2 Stefanski, if he just runs the ball, you're going going to be able to tread water. It's maddening if you're a Browns fan because it's so easy.
It's right like we talk about the ingredients.

Speaker 2 If you go to Taco Bell, They just put the seven ingredients in whatever format that they want, and it always works out well. That's how it should be for Kevin Stefansky.

Speaker 2 You should never introduce something else to this offense.

Speaker 2 Like putting Jacoby Brissette sometimes, he's actually the perfect vehicle for this offense because he should just hand the ball off and occasionally do play action.

Speaker 2 Right then when you're like, all right, Jacoby, maybe

Speaker 1 let's air it out a little bit.

Speaker 2 Let's see what you can do, Jacoby. It's like, no, just stick to what works, and that's giving the ball to Nick Chubb and getting the fuck out of the way.

Speaker 1 I love Jacoby Brissette when he scrambles as well because he looks like he's in slow motion, even though it's regular speed.

Speaker 1 And there's something about quarterbacks like that who,

Speaker 1 when they start to run, and he scored a touchdown, so he actually was able to do it, but when they start to run, and you're like, oh, wait,

Speaker 1 they're not getting faster.

Speaker 1 This is top gear. They're already in top gear and everyone is descending on them.

Speaker 2 But he's like deceptively slow sometimes, where it's like you keep waiting for him to hit that next gear. And so the fact that he never gets up there, it's also kind of hard to tell.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, he is sometimes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he has deceptive speed. He's slower than he looks.

Speaker 1 And as it's happening, it's just something about it where, I mean, Brady has done it a couple times this year where he's like, my team sucks. I have to run.
And

Speaker 1 it's essentially watching a car crash in slow motion because they're moving at such a slow speed and everyone else is moving so fast. And you're like, Can they even slide before everyone gets there?

Speaker 1 Right. Like, are they even fast enough to just go down before everyone descends up?

Speaker 2 Nick Foles was like that, too. Yeah.
Like, he takes off, and you keep, you're like, okay, run. It's great.
He's not going to run.

Speaker 1 He's like, no, wait, he's not going faster. Oh, wait.
No, nope. There is no extra gear.
Like, he's.

Speaker 2 Guys are like diving in front of him, tackling where they think he should be.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They're trying to hit the treadmill to go up a little bit higher and it just won't go.
And you're just like, okay, this is going to be a problem. So,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 the AFC is nuts in that I think both these teams are still,

Speaker 1 they're both very much able to get to the playoffs. The Browns may be a little less because they play the Dolphins and Bills next.

Speaker 1 But it's crazy to look at the AFC and realize there's two really good teams and everyone else kind of sort of has a shot. Yeah.
Like there is no...

Speaker 2 I actually think the Browns do have an outside shot

Speaker 2 because the Ravens are going to win this division. The Browns are not, they're by no means means out of it.
And when you have Miles Garrett playing like Miles Garrett, it might be a Halloween thing.

Speaker 2 Miles Garrett just is, he's a Halloween guy.

Speaker 1 That guy loves Halloween.

Speaker 2 You know, there are like a lot of people that say, oh, I go all out at Christmas. Christmas is my thing.
You don't see that that much for Halloween in a younger guy.

Speaker 2 But Miles, there's something about the holiday that like he loves getting spooky with.

Speaker 1 Yeah, anyone who makes a specific holiday, their personality, always kind of creeps me out. You picked any holiday.
And they're just like, oh, I'm just so huge on this holiday.

Speaker 2 That's Linda Tripp was like that. If you saw the show on FX, the lady that recorded Monica Lewinsky's phone calls, she just like lives her entire year for Christmas.
Yeah. For her Christmas party.

Speaker 1 And they just become, yeah, like that's that half of their personality is like, yeah, I go hard Halloween. Like Billy with St.

Speaker 2 Patrick's Day.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 A couple other things from Monday Football. One, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman should wear those yellow jackets every single game.
They look awesome. I know Joe was like, oh, I look so old and funny.

Speaker 2 No, Joe, you look good in that. Yeah.
It's when you try to look like hip and cool, that's when it falls flat. Joe Buck has a face that's that's meant for like retro fashion.
Yes.

Speaker 2 It works, and Troy works in that too. So yeah, just wear the yellow jackets all the time.

Speaker 2 And then Joe Burrow trying to chase down his interception when he realized that Miles Garrett was running after him and about to block him.

Speaker 2 And then Joe turning around and just running away from Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 Smart move by extremely relatable business decisions. Yes.
And they should always have

Speaker 1 whatever the Monday night football is closest to Halloween should always be in Cleveland because the crowd was hilarious. The sad clown to start the whole broadcast that kind of creeped everyone out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know.
I just feel like Cleveland, you know, because of the colors,

Speaker 1 they're just the perfect spot for a Halloween game.

Speaker 2 It should be a tradition. Very spooky.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it should be the same as the Lions and the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Cleveland should always get the Halloween game.

Speaker 2 And I liked it against the Bengals, too. It was just orange and black everywhere.

Speaker 2 It was very festive. For a while,

Speaker 2 it was zero to zero. And on the score bug at the bottom, the Bengals B made it read out boo.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was perfect.
Very scary. Like Joe Burrow had the boo shirt coming in.
All right. College football, there's not a lot to talk about except we talked about the Michigan-Michigan State thing.

Speaker 1 We have the biggest weekend.

Speaker 1 It's not like top to bottom. It doesn't have, you know, whatever it was a few weeks ago where it was seven ranked, first ranked.

Speaker 1 But Georgia, Tennessee, and LSU, Alabama is going to figure out a lot of the questions of like what the rest of the season is going to look like.

Speaker 2 My pants just got tighter just hearing you describe the upcoming college football Saturday. It's such a good college football Saturday that, so we're going to Chicago on Thursday.

Speaker 2 We're doing an upfront thing there. I'm going to stick around and check out Chicago a little bit, get the vibe of the city.
Only been there a few times.

Speaker 2 I changed my flight back on Saturday to make absolutely sure that I would not miss a second of

Speaker 2 Georgia, Tennessee. Yeah, because that's what kind of weekend it's going to be.

Speaker 1 It's actually nice that the

Speaker 1 first slate isn't that great, so you can really build yourself up for Georgia, Tennessee, and LSU. That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 There are certain games where I could compromise and I'd say, you know what? I'll watch it on the plane. Yeah.
Or I can catch this the second half at the airport before my flight takes off.

Speaker 2 No, no, I want to be like in a very in my comfortable environment set up. This is like the college football game of the year for me.
And I've got to take that

Speaker 2 I've been halfway deploying, but I'm ready to go full nuke on it. So just tell me, tell me what you think about Tennessee.
I think that this Tennessee team is

Speaker 2 extremely close, if not almost identical to the LSU team in 2019 so far.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I've seen a lot of people make the comparison between the two.

Speaker 1 I'd still think the LSU team was far more talented.

Speaker 2 Well, it's so Tennessee obviously has a long way to go.

Speaker 3 Tennessee's very good.

Speaker 2 In terms of scoring average and all that, they're averaging like half a point more per game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. No, I've seen a lot of people make that connection and be like, hey, look, this Tennessee team, they're starting to get, and their defense is getting better.

Speaker 1 I just still think when you talk about the actual talent on the LSU,

Speaker 1 like having all those wide receivers was insane. And that LSU defense did end up being a lot better than it was.
And again, Tennessee's gotten better. We'll see.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is fun because they get to prove it against Georgia. I know.

Speaker 2 Like, this take could blow up in my face. And obviously, I'm saying at this point in the season,

Speaker 2 they're comparing favorably. And I think the comparisons are there for Hindon Hooker and Joe Burrow, too, both super old guys that stuck around.

Speaker 2 You remember like when we first met Joe when he was a junior at LSU? Yeah. He wasn't like setting the world on fire at this point.

Speaker 1 No, we saw them score zero points against Bama.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Hinden kind of plays the same type of ball where he like, especially when he runs, he loves to run at people.

Speaker 2 He loves running people over, not like super, super fast, but fast enough. And I don't know.

Speaker 2 I get similar vibes from those teams.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just, again, I would just lean to LSU is just so fucking out of this world.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, they were probably the best college football team of all time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I'm saying, and the guys who went in the draft like that next year, like the fact that they had Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase on the same team, like those are the, those are the two, are they the two best receivers in the NFL right now?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, we, we all, Tyreek, but like, they're two of the top four, five.

Speaker 1 I, that's, that's pretty stupid. And actually, the Bama team, where I mean, the Bama team was, was out of this world, too, the year before or the year after.

Speaker 2 I mean, Hyatt's pretty good, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he is. He's pretty good.
He's not like Jamar Chase, but there's a difference. He's pretty good.

Speaker 2 I did see, this is going to be my cool throne, actually, was just college football fans being mad about rankings because there's this dude that ranked Alabama ahead of Tennessee in his poll because the deep numbers are telling him like through computers that Alabama is a better team than Tennessee.

Speaker 2 Now, some people would say, well, they played. They actually, those two teams played each other and Tennessee won.
Yeah. But not this guy.

Speaker 2 I love this guy's commitment to just being like, we should play the games just in a simulation. Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 Why even have games? Let's just get the computers out there. Roll the computers out.
So that means

Speaker 1 you think Tennessee is going to beat Georgia.

Speaker 2 I'm not Evolve for Life like you, but I am Evolve for now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I love them.

Speaker 2 I think that they will.

Speaker 1 I like them to cover.

Speaker 1 Georgia is just, they always,

Speaker 1 this iteration of Georgia just scares the ever-living shit out of me in any big game.

Speaker 2 They've been kind of human recently.

Speaker 1 They were for a stretch, but they've come back to being Georgia. So they had that stretch.

Speaker 1 They didn't play great against Florida. The third quarter, they were playing.
They left Florida right back in that game. It was never a doubt, though.

Speaker 2 Florida looked like a better team than them in the third quarter.

Speaker 1 I mean, Tennessee played Florida, Tennessee, and that was a closer margin.

Speaker 7 If we're going to play that game,

Speaker 1 like that's, you know,

Speaker 1 that was a closer game than Florida, Georgia. I'm just saying

Speaker 2 Georgia's beatable.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They're not juggernauts.

Speaker 1 We oftentimes will compare them to the team that won the national championship, and that's a very high bar to hit. So they might be still very, very, very, very good.

Speaker 1 And they did have,

Speaker 1 I want to say they played. So I know the Missouri game was the game where it was like, whoa, what's wrong with Georgia here?

Speaker 1 But then they had a stretch after that where they beat the shit out of a few teams. It was like, okay, Georgia's, like, they beat the ever-living shit out of Auburn.

Speaker 1 I know that everyone does, but you still should get credit for absolutely smushing the opponents that suck.

Speaker 1 They beat the ever-living shit out of Vanderbilt. Again, that's a terrible team, but that was more like Georgia last year.

Speaker 2 Georgia definitely rocks. Georgia is very, very good, and their two tight ends are just pretty much unstoppable.

Speaker 2 You can't shut down those two guys. It's just a matter of like,

Speaker 2 if their defense plays up to how good they can play, and again, I'm thinking back to week one against Oregon,

Speaker 2 then nobody nobody in college football can beat them yeah i mean

Speaker 2 but tennessee's offense is good enough and they play at oh tennis like a fast enough tempo and this is why i don't get the the hypo to the nfl stuff in the first place

Speaker 2 he's a dumbass if he even thinks about leaving to go to the nfl i hope he's just using it to get a bigger contract at tennessee but just college football coaches memo to you guys like don't be a shithead it doesn't work when you go to the nfl right i uh i think at this point i'm rooting for just tennessee versus ohio state in the national championship game.

Speaker 1 I think that over-under would be like 85.

Speaker 2 That would be awesome. It would be incredible.
You know how you talk about having different colors in college football playoff? Yeah. The Tennessee orange in the college football playoff is awesome.

Speaker 1 It needs to get in.

Speaker 2 Exactly what I need.

Speaker 1 It needs to get in.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, and then LSU,

Speaker 1 that game, the fact that they're 13-point underdogs to Bama at home.

Speaker 1 That's the only reason I think I'm going to have to take Bama is because I love LSU so much.

Speaker 1 I know that probably is the dumbest dumbest sentence ever said, but gamblers will understand what I'm saying. When you see a line and you're like, that makes no sense.

Speaker 1 Like, take the points all day. That's a pretty good indication that you're very wrong.
It's actually similar to the Kentucky, Tennessee game, where I was like, Kentucky will keep this close.

Speaker 1 This is way too many points. Like, nope, that's, you're, couldn't be more wrong.

Speaker 2 Under the lights. Yeah.

Speaker 2 A bunch of really drunk Cajun people.

Speaker 1 Bama fans, we have one here.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Travis for the boys. He calls LSU Bryant Denny West because I didn't realize this, but they haven't won.

Speaker 1 LSU hasn't beaten Alabama at LSU since 2010. Oh, that's crazy.
Yeah, they've beaten Alabama more in Bryant Denny than they have at Baton Rouge.

Speaker 2 That's pretty,

Speaker 2 right?

Speaker 1 I did not realize that. Yeah, so I was like, oh, okay.
Bryant Denny West. That's always such a mean thing to say.
Yeah. I mean, I say it sometimes with the Brewers.

Speaker 2 I'd be like, Wrigley North. We own you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 It is kind of mean. And just being like, we'll have more fans.
They won't have more fans.

Speaker 2 We have some breaking news in the internet.

Speaker 7 Breaking news.

Speaker 2 Breaking moves.

Speaker 2 The Minnesota Vikings have just acquired T.J. Hawkinson.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Tight end.

Speaker 2 University of Iowa by way of the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 7 So I guess

Speaker 2 are the Vikings in win-now mode?

Speaker 1 Win-now mode. They are.

Speaker 2 I think the Vikings are all in.

Speaker 1 They're in full win-now mode.

Speaker 1 Breaking news. This is

Speaker 2 the worst trade involving tj since the louisiana purchase bam

Speaker 1 billy loves that one yeah nailed it that's how you know you fucking nailed a joke when billy's the only one that laughs i laugh yeah you did thank you i got you um fikers like the least talked about one lost team well because they're frauds big cat disrespects the shit out of him i i yeah big cat you you're really

Speaker 1 disrespected him way more on sunday i was trying to be nice to him i have and he talked me back into disrespecting and now i'm gonna i'm he's he pulled me back on to the disrespect boat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, listen, I'm, I was falling off the boat.

Speaker 2 Sometimes I have to realize when I'm all in on a take and I might be wrong about it, but fucking, I'm not going back. Like, I've been on this take.
They're not winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 We will be right.

Speaker 2 I've been on this take for six years, okay?

Speaker 1 I will be right.

Speaker 2 I'm very consistent. I'm wishy-washy about a lot of things, but my take on Kirk Cousins has not wavered.
And

Speaker 1 it never will. We will be right.
We might have to deal with them winning a playoff game, even two playoff games. We will be right.
That's fine.

Speaker 10 God. I'm the only one who's hyped the Vikings on this show about three weeks ago.

Speaker 1 Congrats.

Speaker 1 What happened three weeks ago?

Speaker 10 I was like, I think the Vikings are for real. But I've also been talking to a lot of Vikings.

Speaker 2 You nailed that one. Damn.

Speaker 1 You crushed it.

Speaker 1 Oh, TCU. I know TCU fans.
I've been getting some tweets being like, you guys never talked about TCU. Well, guess what? We're not going to talk about TCU.

Speaker 1 But we're going to have your coach on Friday, Sonny Dykes. So that's, I feel like that's more than enough TCU talk.
So there you go. All right, let's do hot seat cool throw.

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Speaker 1 Henry!

Speaker 4 My hot seat is Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Why?

Speaker 4 Rye Carey came out today.

Speaker 2 Oh, Oh, congratulations.

Speaker 4 Posted a video.

Speaker 1 No, come on, PFT.

Speaker 1 You put a pretty big pause there.

Speaker 4 She posted a video saying it's time

Speaker 4 with the all I want for Christmas is you. So she's just overriding Thanksgiving and she's on to Christmas.

Speaker 2 She's step overing.

Speaker 1 You can't do that. I mean, she probably needs

Speaker 1 the money where she's like, let's start hitting those Spotify streams now.

Speaker 4 I don't know if she needs the money, but I think she's just... It's a little bit early.
I'm a big Thanksgiving guy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving's the best holiday. It's middle of football and food.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so it's not time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's not. It's definitely not time.
Mariah is.

Speaker 2 She must have set like a, she scheduled her tweet for the first time.

Speaker 4 The Halloween ended, and then she scheduled her tweets.

Speaker 7 She just

Speaker 2 for the first of December, and it accidentally got scheduled for the first of November.

Speaker 1 That's complete bullshit.

Speaker 2 When you do go to like Costco, I've noticed that they do put out their Christmas decorations in like August now. Really? It's weird, yeah.

Speaker 7 That is weird.

Speaker 1 Yeah, don't, let's not rush it. Let's not rush it.
Thanksgiving. We still got a lot of great football, rivalries.
Maxion. Come on.
Maxion. Like, come on.
Let's not do this. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 We have all December.

Speaker 1 What are you laughing about, Billy?

Speaker 10 We should just have Eminem just like keeping Rye Carriaway until Christmas season.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 10 Eminem? Just like maybe send out a diss track.

Speaker 7 I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's not a bad idea.

Speaker 2 I haven't heard an Eminem song in a while. He's been out of the news recently.

Speaker 1 Get him back. I like that.
All right, what's your cool throne?

Speaker 4 I don't know if this is a hot seat or cool song, cool throne, but Sony said they sold 25 million PlayStation 5s.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that's a lot.

Speaker 2 That's way too hot. Where are they?

Speaker 1 So, yeah, wait, what?

Speaker 1 It's hard to get them. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I know. I know.

Speaker 4 How's that going?

Speaker 1 Fine.

Speaker 1 I got both the people that won PlayStation 5s. Really? You had to be invited to a group.
On Amazon. Oh, I thought that's crazy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nuts.

Speaker 4 25 mil. Then my cool throwing are the Swifties.

Speaker 4 She announced today that she is doing a tour, going on tour, stadium tour.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And she's in the running for the 1 millionth PFT follower.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice.

Speaker 4 Big day for the Swifties.

Speaker 2 Hank, that's a cool shirt.

Speaker 4 Yes, this is the 999 Club shirt. Oh, nice.
If you're in the 999 Club, you should buy one.

Speaker 2 It's actually exclusive. So only if you're in the 999 Club, you can purchase it.
And we're only selling 999 of them right now.

Speaker 1 So get it. Can I have one? Get yours.
Yeah. I mean, I'm in the club.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 absolutely.

Speaker 1 All right. Harcel store.

Speaker 2 Whole squad's going to get one.

Speaker 2 It's Taylor Swift, Elon,

Speaker 2 and then I need a third person.

Speaker 1 Cardi B.

Speaker 2 Cardi B. That's a good name.

Speaker 7 To be the million followers.

Speaker 4 She's active on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like she would be the front runner just by how active she is.

Speaker 2 Okay, those are the three. Okay.
So I'm staying locked at $999,900 until I get

Speaker 1 29.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it's tough because it ebbs and flows. So if I put out a tweet that's mid, I drop like 25 followers, got to let 25 people in the door.
Rosillo just got back in.

Speaker 1 Nice. Congrats to him.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, he wanted to be the millionth. That's why he said he unfollowed.
Oh. Because he was like, I wanted to be a million followers.

Speaker 1 It's like, come on, Ryan. You should block him.

Speaker 7 I actually should. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, your hot seat cool throwing PS4. So my hot seat,

Speaker 2 it's going to be us because.

Speaker 2 A lot of people dressed up as us for Halloween this year, which is always very surreal to see. It's like a pinch yourself moment, and it's pretty cool most of the time.

Speaker 2 But then I just realized that people are just putting pillows inside their shirts to be Big Cat, and then their girlfriend is just being me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's how it's been forever.

Speaker 2 It's a great couple's costume. Just once, I'd like to be the guy.
Yeah. Just once.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's probably never going to happen.

Speaker 1 Shout out that one group that did me, PFT, Billy, and Hank, and that was like,

Speaker 1 it was Billy. Dude, the guy

Speaker 2 had no laces in his boots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had to get a

Speaker 1 camo backpack.

Speaker 1 He had the same glasses he looked like a douchebag it was perfect he was you he was averse to hot sauce yeah it might have might have actually been you i could hear him complaining in the picture it was it was it was like a great are we done with the stupid picture yet

Speaker 1 it was yeah no it is always surreal when we see people do that wait wait let's do tick tock before

Speaker 2 uh and then my cool throne was going to be uh college football fans being mad about rankings but i'm going to change it i'm going to say my cool throne is michael irvin because i really liked the interview yes I loved having him in the studio.

Speaker 2 He's fucking just energy. Yeah.
He's an energy personified.

Speaker 1 He just goes on his sermons.

Speaker 2 I think people really like him. And I was doing some background on Michael after he came in here, actually, because I was like, you know, I remember there was a controversy around him.

Speaker 2 And he alluded to it when he was on ESPN when he lost his job on ESPN.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Like, like

Speaker 7 20 years ago?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They found a weed pipe in his car. I thought it was a new diet.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 2 it was a weed pipe.

Speaker 1 20 years ago, weed was a weed pipe.

Speaker 2 I swear to God, in the police thing, it said baggies with marijuana residue on them. And he got fired from ESPN, and people are like, I don't know if we can hire Michael Irvin.

Speaker 2 Because he had a fucking weed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but see, what you're doing is you're judging it by today's standards. Weed was like the number one killer of all drugs 20 years ago.

Speaker 7 That's true.

Speaker 1 It was way stronger. So dangerous.

Speaker 2 Weed was way, way stronger back in 2003. Like kids these days, you've got like your 50% THC hybrid shit that you get.

Speaker 2 Try puffing on that Afghan from back in 2002 and get back to me.

Speaker 1 Harry's tough.

Speaker 7 I'm happy we survived.

Speaker 2 We lost a lot of good men.

Speaker 1 Smoking weed back in the day. All right, my hot seat is Billy.
Sam Ellinger is a coach killer. So the offensive coordinator for the Colts has been relieved of his duty.

Speaker 1 I think that's the first time an offensive coordinator ever has been relieved of his duty

Speaker 1 four days after the first start of a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Coach killer.

Speaker 11 Well,

Speaker 10 maybe it's because

Speaker 10 maybe it's because he hasn't utilized him correctly.

Speaker 1 Maybe people one time.

Speaker 2 I actually think here's what you go with, Billy.

Speaker 2 He's fired because Sam Ellinger looks so good. Yeah.
Why did you wait this long to put him in as a starting quarterback?

Speaker 2 Bad talent evaluation.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and someone else can definitely use him better.

Speaker 1 The real answer is Frank Reich is the walls are closing in on him because he's had the vote of confidence and the firing of the OC. It's like the most sure sign a coach is getting fired.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there was a tweet. So Jim Ursa tweeted about their offensive coordinator being fired.
And then at the very end of it, I'm just going to read out loud.

Speaker 2 He goes, this morning we relieved Marcus Brady of his duties as offensive coordinator. I wish this good man all the best and then hit him with the thumbs up emoji.
Oh, nice.

Speaker 2 You're fired, but thumbs up. There's a thumbs up for the road.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like that. I like that.
All right, and then my cool throne is the Lakers. I don't know how we missed this, but last week there was a story that came out.

Speaker 1 Russell Westbrook bought the house across the street from LeBron James. So the Lakers are back.
Oh, that's very good. Yeah, that's great team chemistry.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 1 I just love the idea of like LeBron looking out his window and Russ is just bricking shots in the driveway across the street and being like, fuck, he wants a carpool today.

Speaker 2 So the one rule that I gave to the realtor that's helping me look for a place in Chicago is: like, I don't want to live on the same street as Big Cat. We spend enough time working together.

Speaker 2 And if we're in in the same neighborhood it's whatever but you want to have like a little home yeah yeah across the street is quite something that's actually a little thirsty on westbrook's part yeah big time or like a little stalkery

Speaker 1 it could be like a creepy yeah like you better not you better not talk shit about me i know where you live like across the street exactly yeah

Speaker 1 so i i just i it's a it's just a very funny visual of the two of them like lebron can't get rid of this guy westbrook's gonna like text and be like hey i i see you're drinking some wine

Speaker 2 You mind if I come over?

Speaker 1 Yeah, wait, I smelled tacos. Is it Tuesday again? Yeah.
Huh.

Speaker 1 All right, Billy.

Speaker 10 My hot seat is PFT.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 10 So not that crazy. A couple years ago, you had that idea to make Rumbler, like Tinder for fighting.
Yeah. So it turns out Israeli companies developed it.

Speaker 10 It's called Mishu.im, and you can go on there, hop on there, and find people to argue with. And if you want to, concentrally fight each other.

Speaker 2 That's awesome. Like in Washington, right? Mutual combat state.
Kwame Brown taught us that.

Speaker 2 And My Cool Throne is...

Speaker 1 Are you on it, Billy?

Speaker 10 No, I haven't signed up yet. Why not? Because I can't read.

Speaker 7 Oh, because your fists are deadly weapons.

Speaker 2 You can't. Yes.
You couldn't fight somebody. You'd get charged with murder.

Speaker 10 Yes. My cool throne is pandemic amnesty.
Turns out anything you do during the pandemic, we're all going to forget about and forgive each other.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 10 I'm done with everything.

Speaker 1 So this was an article, I think, in the New York Times, and it was so fucking funny because it was, I think it was written from the side of like someone who's been freaking out and yelling at everyone to wear their mask constantly for like two years.

Speaker 1 And they're like, hey, let's just forget all that stuff we did. Yeah.
Like, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 I'm actually, I'm okay with forgetting that the last two years happened entirely.

Speaker 1 My brain cannot, like, there will be things that are said and memories, and I just can't, like, place it because of the last, whatever, two and a half years.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just like the last two years objectively were not good for a lot of people. Can we just, like, I will go back to being 25 years old, subtract two years from your age, Billy? You'd be 21.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, that's a bad idea. Let's make him 20.
He can't drink. Yeah, good point.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you didn't touch alcohol until you're 21.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm fine with just pretending that's the year 2020 again.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Sweet.

Speaker 2 Just get back to it.

Speaker 1 It was funny, though, to just be like, reset. Sorry, guys.
Maybe you overreact a little.

Speaker 2 It's like some people said some things that we...

Speaker 7 Listen, we all kind of stepped over the line a little bit.

Speaker 10 But I think anything should be forgiven.

Speaker 1 Like anything. Yeah.
Oh, Billy, what did you do? Why? What did you do in the last two years?

Speaker 2 Like, anything.

Speaker 1 Anything specific you want to tell us?

Speaker 10 No, but whatever it was, forgive me for it.

Speaker 1 Okay. So just tell us.
January 6th.

Speaker 1 Never happened.

Speaker 2 You're forgiven for it.

Speaker 1 Starting with the pandemic in Italy? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bull things. I was in Wuhan.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Getting your quotes wrong? Yeah, yeah, that was.
All right. Jake.

Speaker 9 My hot seat's the Philadelphia 76ers. They lost a pair of second-round picks for illegal free agency.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 2 I heard Hank turn his microphone on.

Speaker 1 It's a second. It's a football season, Jake.
Yeah, that's what you can have.

Speaker 1 I would have had it, but it's baseball and football season. Are they tanking?

Speaker 1 I heard they were. Hank would know more than me.

Speaker 6 I don't even pay attention to Cambodia. One last baseball.
One last night. MB didn't even play one last night.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 6 And it's preseason. Harden's 17 assists.
He's back to MVP form.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm sure that will turn out poorly for you. Good luck with that.
Back to MVP form. I'll say it again.
Wait, let me check what month it is.

Speaker 6 Let me check.

Speaker 1 Back to MVP form. November.

Speaker 1 I'm sure he'll be an MVP come June. I think Hardin's Hardin's really

Speaker 6 great shape. Did you see him?

Speaker 1 Yeah, right before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's

Speaker 6 Tyrese Maxey, absolute star.

Speaker 1 The Sixers are back.

Speaker 6 Okay. Hank is going to be sick.

Speaker 2 Hank, are you going to be sick? No.

Speaker 9 Well, they don't have a second-round pick, so.

Speaker 7 He's also an MVP like six years.

Speaker 2 To me, taking away second-round picks from NBA teams, it's like, okay, what does that do?

Speaker 9 Like three or four of those guys will stick.

Speaker 7 It's less than a slap on the wrist to them.

Speaker 4 Also,

Speaker 4 if we are going to go with the hater narrative, there's nothing in the world I'm rooting more for than the Lakers to get the number one pick in the lottery.

Speaker 1 Why? Because the Pelicans get their pick. Oh, okay, good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I forgot that part.

Speaker 1 I like how

Speaker 2 Hank calls it like the hater narrative. Yeah.
Like, it's not actually how you feel.

Speaker 1 Yeah. If you were another dude, yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, people are acting like I'm a hater, so if you know, I'm going to play the part. Yeah, you're doing a bit of a pin.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The Lakers do have a lot of cap space, which sucks.

Speaker 7 Coming up, I believe.

Speaker 1 But yeah, if you play the the high hater narrative it'd be unbelievable that would be an unbelievable lottery ball draw

Speaker 9 okay uh my cool thrones the xfl they announced their eight teams they're back pft or dc defenders returning we've got the vegas vipers the seattle sea dragons the orlando guardians the st.

Speaker 9 Louis Battlehawks the San Antonio Brahmas

Speaker 1 the Arlington Renegades the Houston Roughnecks and the Defenders so and when is this starting February yeah February what?

Speaker 9 2023.

Speaker 2 It's like yeah right after the Super Bowl. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 13 So you'll watch opening week.

Speaker 1 The Guardian. I don't even know.

Speaker 1 I've long, I've stayed pretty firm on my thoughts that, like, I love the seasons of sports. And, like, March is so sacred to me for college basketball.
Like, I just, I, I love March.

Speaker 1 Any PFT to get a tryout again?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, I'm ready. I've been working out, kind of.

Speaker 14 You turned down NFL offers.

Speaker 1 That was a quick kind of.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I've turned down NFL offers.

Speaker 1 Multiple NFL offers.

Speaker 2 It should be known that I actually, Mike Rabel.

Speaker 1 Ooh, The Rock. And Arthur Smith.
And Arthur Smith.

Speaker 14 Oh, The Rock is your millionaire.

Speaker 1 That's actually a great call. Oh, The Rock.
So you can collab your free agency.

Speaker 2 That would unlock my powers. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 And if we're going with the narrative that, you know, the COVID didn't exist, like you're basically just coming off getting cut.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's true.
Yeah. The second I'm ready.
I'm fresh in the free agency.

Speaker 2 I'm ready. Just like, just unleash me.

Speaker 1 I was right before COVID. Yeah, I was.
I'm good to go.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
The XFL, it's weird because every team is practicing in Arlington, and then they're flying out for their games to their specific cities. It's a weird setup that they have, and

Speaker 2 the Guardians, they were the New York team, but I guess Darren Revelle embarrassed them so much when you put on that stupid uniform that they just moved to Orlando to get away from him. Nice.

Speaker 2 So Orlando gets them, and then Seattle moved from being the Dragons to the Sea Dragons now.

Speaker 3 I like that. It's cooler, I think.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're on the ocean.

Speaker 3 It's a good synergy with the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then the Vipers, they used to be Tampa Bay. Now they're Vegas, the Vegas Vipers.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to remind me all this stuff. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I'm just a DC defenders guy. So, Rock, get in touch with me.
I can still kick the dick out of a football. And I'm actually, here's a little wrinkle that I just thought of the other day.

Speaker 2 I'm going to bring back barefoot kicking.

Speaker 2 Nice. I'm going to be a barefoot kicker like they were in like the 70s and 80s.
Like, that's fucking, that's going to put asses in seats, especially from like perverts out there that are foot guys.

Speaker 1 We get a picture of you maybe in black and white kicking a football barefoot, losing a little hair. It's like, holy shit, are we in the 60s? That looks great.
This is awesome.

Speaker 1 Maybe a cigarette on the sideline?

Speaker 7 Oh, I will smoke during games.

Speaker 1 Yes. For sure.

Speaker 8 February 18th, so six days after the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's too soon. I just, yeah.

Speaker 1 I know that people will,

Speaker 1 there's like a small sect that will be like, you're not a football guy. It's like, I actually think that makes me more of a football guy because I just, I love football season.

Speaker 1 And then when they start playing it during basketball season, I need my seasons. I need my cycles.

Speaker 1 I'm a creature of habit.

Speaker 1 And if The Rock needs someone to call the games, you? I'll do that. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Then I will.
Yeah. All right.
Of course.

Speaker 1 If you guys get involved, I'll begrudgingly watch and be like, yay.

Speaker 1 That's my promise. Steam player.
Perfect. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let's get to our interview.
What do you say, Billy?

Speaker 2 Billy was going to be like, can I?

Speaker 10 69. I picked 69.

Speaker 1 We're not.

Speaker 10 I know. I got confused.

Speaker 1 So, this should you should be eliminated.

Speaker 9 False start.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should absolutely be eliminated from this.

Speaker 3 Is that the first false start in the history of the penalty?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, you have a five-yard penalty.

Speaker 1 You have to pick last.

Speaker 1 That's way too early.

Speaker 2 Oh, did you notice in the game last night that the Browns?

Speaker 7 You're like an hour too early.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 The Browns had 12 men on the field on the very first.

Speaker 1 First play.

Speaker 2 That's fucking nuts.

Speaker 1 It was a very Brown start.

Speaker 2 That's almost impossible to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's the Browns.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to Michael Irvin, and then we will will do one question with the quarterback and finish up with guys on chicks.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest.

Speaker 1 He has been on the show before. It is the Playmaker, Hall of Famer, Michael Irvin, in the flesh.
Great to see you. Look incredible.
Well, thanks for seeing that. Thanks.
I appreciate it. No, you do.

Speaker 1 I mean it.

Speaker 2 I think you're the best dressed person that's ever come through part of my tent.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Still got all your hair, too? Yeah. Looking great.
Real hair.

Speaker 1 You guys do know this is. Okay.
Oh, you guys are pretty good. Yeah.
You're pretty good right now. I see.
Yeah, we got hair.

Speaker 7 We got hair.

Speaker 2 I got most of my hair.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 you got a head on.

Speaker 1 Okay, so. It's getting a little bald.
This is the one thing. Do you guys, this is the one thing, man? I don't know why it affects men so much.
Yeah. Like, it is the real.

Speaker 1 Even when I'm on with Stephen A, right, and he messes with me and tell me, oh, you're wearing a toupee.

Speaker 1 it's not a toupee my hair is real I want to get back on Stephen A but I don't want to lose my audience yeah because

Speaker 1 his hair is resitting man you have your hair your hair is leaving right now is walking away from us as we sit right here talking you know what I'm saying

Speaker 1 that that's 90% of the men out there and I don't want to lose my audience so I just I just have to let it go yeah that's true you can't if you if you go after bald guys right on a sports show putting yourself

Speaker 1 and be like what the fuck did you just say right right right exactly dudes do it but it is tied to our ego yes it is really tied to our ego so like i said we've had you on before so we don't have to bring back up uh the uh the when when we played in the cold it was cold yeah tweets and all that stuff

Speaker 1 so i want we want to talk

Speaker 1 we want to talk about some football but i you you mentioned stephen a

Speaker 1 we are big fans of stephen a is there um any prep that you do mentally to know like when you go into the battle with him knowing like he's going to plot all the tricks he's going to twist everything,

Speaker 1 he's a master at what he does. Like, how do you do it? And he is a master at what he does.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you got to, and people don't understand that even that there's a talent to it all, and he does have a talent. I was going off one day

Speaker 1 about the Cowboys and their defense.

Speaker 1 Things are licking good. I must have gone on an eight, nine-minute rant.
Really small sermon. A sermonic speech is what I call it.
A sermonic speech. I gave it to you.

Speaker 1 Put some word in there and everything. But he stayed out.

Speaker 1 Did not interrupt. People don't, you underestimate true talent.
Like that, that's a gift, too. Like, hey, it's your show.

Speaker 1 I know when I got to pull out and just let you go.

Speaker 1 You know, it's his show. And

Speaker 1 he pulls back and let me go. So, yeah.
Now, the only prep I got to do is I know what I'm going into. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? So I work Sunday morning. Stephen A's tweeting at my show Sunday.

Speaker 1 I'm watching you. I heard what you said.
Be ready tomorrow. Stop, man.

Speaker 1 One show over here, one show over there. Well, he's ducking you right now.

Speaker 2 He's out. He says that he has COVID right now.
I don't know if you saw this tweet that he sent to you this morning. Oh, yeah, I saw it.
You were on the show.

Speaker 1 He said, well, you ruined one of his favorite segments, Michael.

Speaker 2 You ruined his favorite segment this morning. He said that you put Tony Pollard over Derrick Henry

Speaker 2 in terms of your best running back of the weekend.

Speaker 2 You know that that's Stephen A. Smith's favorite segment that he gets to do on Mondays.
You put Tony Pollard, your cowboy, over there. Would you like to apologize to Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Smith for ruining his favorite sentence?

Speaker 1 They gave me that playmakers. I am the now.
I'm bringing up an adjective. They are a playmaker.
I am the playmaker. I'm the noun.
They're the adjective.

Speaker 1 I pick my playmakers, and I put themes on my playmakers. Like today, it was a mighty rushing win.
Acts 2-2 talks about it when all one plays on one accord.

Speaker 1 You will know it comes like a sound like a mighty rushing win. But you take the D off.

Speaker 1 It was a mighty rushing win, W-I-N.

Speaker 1 All the guys that have done, that did a mighty job job rushing the football to get the win. Now, Pollard's number one because he took 15 rushes to get 131 yards.
Incredible, yeah.

Speaker 1 15 rushes to get 131 yards. It's not just

Speaker 1 the number of yards, it's also how many times did I have to touch the ball to get it. Derrick Henry, I think, had 32 carries for 219 yards.
And I almost, I like talking distance travel too.

Speaker 1 Derrick Henry,

Speaker 1 that motor, I call him a motor, half man,

Speaker 1 half machine. That motor, that Motar, it's his sixth time rushing for 200 yards.
Yeah. Sixth time.

Speaker 1 The three dudes that have done it three times, when I say their names, you're going,

Speaker 1 I mean, you're talking about LaDania Tomlinson, Barris Sanders,

Speaker 1 and Jim Dan Brown. It don't get no better than that.

Speaker 1 And they only did it three times. And he did it six times.
That's why he ain't, I didn't bring him number one because, hey, he's used to this.

Speaker 2 He He said it four times against the Texans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the last four times he's played the Texans. He's done it.
Yeah, four times.

Speaker 1 So Tony Pollard was.

Speaker 1 There's always one team you could just dump. Yeah, who is that team for you?

Speaker 1 Well, since I won so many rings, I had quite a few teams.

Speaker 1 You had a lot of teams shit that you're doing. Was there one team, though, that you're like, I know I got him every time?

Speaker 1 I would have to say it was Arizona. Cardinals.
Every time.

Speaker 1 No matter what.

Speaker 1 We're going to beat them. We got.

Speaker 7 They were in the East back then.

Speaker 1 They were in the East back then. They were in the East.
And then they went and drafted Aeneas Williams. And Aeneas Williams, he's in the Hall of Fame, cornerback.
He's a great dude, man.

Speaker 1 He and I battled for quite a few years, you know, and he's in the Dallas area a lot. So we used to battle, and then, you know, I would run into him in the restaurants.

Speaker 1 So we came, became, you know, he's a pass and we became great friends. But I would say, yeah.
I've had my best games against Arizona.

Speaker 1 So the Tony Pollard thing, this is obviously relevant right this second because Jerry Jones Jones came out and said that Zeke is still the starting running back.

Speaker 1 Do you agree with that? Yes, absolutely. Tony Pollard ran the ball 14 times, people.
He's electric.

Speaker 1 14 times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it has very explosive. And that's why I made him number one playmaker.
You go 14 rushes for 131 yards. That's more than 32 for 209 for me.
219. I mean, that's what Derek had, 219.

Speaker 1 But yes, I believe that.

Speaker 1 It's 14 rushes.

Speaker 1 A true bail cow back is derrick hair who got 32 rushes you see what i mean so so pollard we can't run him 30 times that's not him so zeke yes zeke starts it's a mentality in in an order and that team is built around dak prescott and zeke they came in together 2-1-4.

Speaker 1 That's the area code in Dallas. 21 Zeke.
Number 4 is Dak. That's the area code.
That's how you got to run that team.

Speaker 1 I don't care who you start, but

Speaker 1 Tony gets about 14 carries. Zeke carries the rest of the load.
Okay.

Speaker 2 What about a playmaker at wide receiver that's still, the name's kind of out there right now. It seems like he's doing a bit of a free agency tour, almost like a college kid getting recruited

Speaker 1 to Dale Beckham.

Speaker 2 Would you like to see Odell on the Cowboys?

Speaker 1 Ooh. Ooh.
I would love to see Odell on the Cowboys. But even bigger than that, I guarantee you, I can tell you Odell would love to see Odell on the Cowboys.
Yeah, he would. Yeah? Trust me.

Speaker 2 He wants to wear the star?

Speaker 1 Trust me. Trust me.
I know Dell.

Speaker 1 Odell and I have had conversations about that a long time ago. Oh, long ago.

Speaker 2 Now, do you think Odell could be a number two receiver?

Speaker 2 Because CD right now.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 7 CD.

Speaker 2 Now, I read a step about CD where it's like

Speaker 2 he had five catches, 77 yards, and a touchdown, and that means he's got 195 career receptions. That's the most by a Cowboy in his first 40 games.
So CD is,

Speaker 2 he's on his way.

Speaker 1 And he's playing well. Now,

Speaker 1 all of that, because CD is my guy, you know what I mean? We got him in the 88.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? He's in the 88 club and everything. But we are throwing the ball more now.
And that's also Lynn's hands, too. Yeah, Odell can be in that.
Odell can be there.

Speaker 1 You're throwing the ball.

Speaker 1 We're passing the ball so many times,

Speaker 1 way more than we were when we were playing.

Speaker 1 You got 25 passes a game. Yeah.
We got 25 passes. I remember being at the Pro Bowl with Tim Brown, and Tim Brown said, Michael, man,

Speaker 1 you know, he's from Dallas. You know, he said, man, and my contract up, I'm thinking about coming home, man, and playing.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. We don't need that.
We only got 25 passes.

Speaker 1 I got to get my eight, nine. I got to catch my eight and nine.

Speaker 1 Jay going to catch him about four or five. You know, it just wasn't enough to go around.
Now, you can have two number ones on a football team. That's true.
Because they're throwing the ball so much.

Speaker 1 It's the passing game now that wins it. So, yeah, Odell Beckham would light up Dallas.

Speaker 1 Odell has to be, you got to understand, Odell has to be in a place where the lights are bright for him to be his best. You can't stick him in Cleveland.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It kills his light. It's like a flower.
He needs to be in the sun.

Speaker 1 He needs to be in the sun. You can't stick him in Cleveland.
Put him in L.A., put him in New York, put them in Dallas where that light is bright.

Speaker 2 That's where he's one-handed catch.

Speaker 1 He's going to watch beautiful flowers.

Speaker 2 So you think it's a possibility about Dallas?

Speaker 1 Well, Odell, I think it's more of a possibility now because, you know, of course,

Speaker 1 he liked what he won last year with the Rams, but the Rams are looking so bad right now. Even Odell couldn't fix that.
But Odell to the Cowboys can tilt the balance towards the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 And Odell can come in and be a savior. Because he wants to be a savior, too.
That's how he gets his money, too. He's a savior.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he can come and help save save the cowboys so we have this conversation all the time on the podcast uh pft's a washington football fan i'm a bears fan we always talk about the quarterbacks and like do you have the guy because having the guy is that's everything right like you know troy apman was the guy is dak the guy are you yes do you have any reservation about it no no no no no no and and and and dak is and that's what this is such a unique situation this is why i try to even talk about when we lean over into the zeke situation very rarely do you have it in the NFL where your quarterback really is the heart and soul of your football team.

Speaker 1 That's what Tom Brady has been for his football teams. So you get leadership.

Speaker 1 We ordained, we ordain quarterbacks as leaders, but they're not always great leaders. They're not,

Speaker 1 more than likely, they're not great leaders. Yeah.
More than likely. And it helps a lot when he is a natural leader.
He's a natural leader, and that's what Dak is.

Speaker 1 And Dak and Zeke, they're so tied together. That's why I keep saying, guys, you can't mess up the structure of this team.
You can't mess up the order of this team.

Speaker 1 Guys come in that locker room, they look at Zeke, they look at Dak to check, am I giving out enough? Am I doing right? Am I doing what I need to do? So, yes, you got to keep that order in place. Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, I like that answer because we've had Dak on a couple times. We don't know him personally.
And I think he's always, whenever he's healthy, he looks incredible.

Speaker 1 It's just staying healthy is obviously the part. And it's only the last few years.
Even those kind of things, staying healthy has been the issue because he's been hurt the last few years.

Speaker 1 But before that, he stayed healthy. He had never gotten hurt.
So I know what he's going through when you're dealing with ups and downs, the peaks and valleys of being hurt on a football field.

Speaker 1 And you can't play your team looking at you. It's the worst thing in the world because you feel like you're letting everybody down.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I had a broken neck and I was trying to get back on the football field. I just felt like I was letting my boys down.
It's just the worst feeling in the world. So yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1 This thing goes through that.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like you said, with your broken neck, you had a significant injury in Philadelphia at one point in your career. And we've been talking a lot about the Eagles.

Speaker 2 There's been a lot of discussion about Philadelphia being a good sports town recently.

Speaker 2 You have a very intimate relationship with the city of Philadelphia because they did boo you when you got hurt there.

Speaker 1 Rightfully so. Rightfully so.
Rightfully so. Okay, why is that? I've been whooping their ass for a long time.
So our guy Max right here, he's a Philly guy. He was at that game and he booed you.

Speaker 1 Max, did you boo me in? He was a little kid. He was five years old.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was probably me.

Speaker 1 I was probably a five-year-old kid.

Speaker 1 Saying all the nasty things.

Speaker 1 You're the one I heard. That's a man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was crazy. You know what? That night,

Speaker 1 Jeffrey Lurie, of course, the owner, came to my room,

Speaker 1 my hospital room, and he was just, you know, he was...

Speaker 1 He was vexed. He was vexed.
His spirit, lips were moving, he was crying.

Speaker 1 He said, man, I'm so sorry. Michael, I'm so sorry

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 you had to deal with that.

Speaker 1 And I wanted to free him. You know what I mean? I just saw his spirit so vexed.
I really wanted to free him, but I really believed that. I said, man, Mr.
Laurie, we're good.

Speaker 1 I said, them people, they were not. cheering that I was hurt.
They would just say, get his black ass out of here. He's been killing us for years.
And I understand. They are right.

Speaker 1 They don't poo no nobody. You're right.

Speaker 1 And it's not like when I was winning, I was polite about it. I'm putting my arms up.
Hey, first down and all in your face. So,

Speaker 1 you know, it was, yeah, it was cool. And now it's so funny.
Now I go back to Philly. And even when I'm doing a game,

Speaker 1 when I get ready to talk, Dallas,

Speaker 1 Dallas, Dallas,

Speaker 1 they won't even let me talk. You can't even hear what I'm saying on TV.

Speaker 1 And Dallas ain't even playing.

Speaker 1 It's Green Bay and Philly playing. Green Bay and Philly was playing.
And I was like,

Speaker 1 Dallas Dallas is not even here. What is all this right here? And I turned to one guy and I said, man,

Speaker 1 you playing Philly. What are you yelling at for? He said, listen, Michael, I don't like Philly and Philly don't like us.
But the one thing we both can agree on, we both hate the Dallas Cowboys boy.

Speaker 1 Dallas.

Speaker 1 I said, okay, I get it. I get it.
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 All right, so the other big story out of the NFC East this year, the Giants, you kind of called it.

Speaker 1 I want to hear your take about, so in the preseason, preseason, they had a big fight and you were on the record. You're like, I like that they're fighting.
Right.

Speaker 1 So explain that for people who, you know, didn't play in the NFL because a lot of times we'll see the fights and be like, what's going on, Aaron Donald, you know, with his fighting?

Speaker 1 But for squad, what I wanted people to point to, and they were trying to,

Speaker 1 actually, like, what kind of control are they having? They're fighting on the first. What?

Speaker 1 Do you mean to tell me these dudes are competing on the first day that they get into a fight? That means the mind.

Speaker 1 That's great. That's great.
You want the mindset just like that. Every time we step on this field, we come to do something.
And I want to compete every time.

Speaker 1 And we're talking about the first day in this, this, this, this, this spotlight league now, where the first few days you go to camp, you got to walk through.

Speaker 1 You can't even go more than five miles an hour. It'll be a violation of some CBA agreement.
When Jimmy Johnson put us through three workouts, I mean three full-padded workouts. I mean, really hitting.

Speaker 1 And now it's just, so to get that kind of competition on day one says something is working. And nobody else caught that.
Nobody else. You had it.
Nobody else caught it.

Speaker 1 I was the first one to say that Philly is headed towards dynasty. That was in the sword.
Oh, dynasty.

Speaker 2 Now we're talking dynasty.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I said that this summer in Philly. Before the season even started, I said, oh, my God.

Speaker 1 If they had the right hand on the steering wheel and the right hand on the center, if these hands work out, they're going to be doing something for quite a while. And they are working out.

Speaker 2 What is it about Philly? What are they doing right that makes you such a believer? Like, it's one thing to say, I think the Eagles are going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 You jumped right into they're going to have a dynasty.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 there are a couple things you look at. There are a couple things you look at because

Speaker 1 the spirit of a team is going to permeate the locker room. There's going to be some hard moments in the midst of a game.
Hard moments, tough moments. Do we have something that brings us together?

Speaker 1 And Philly has that.

Speaker 1 You get Jalen Hurts, you go get Devontae Smith,

Speaker 1 you go with A.J. Brown.
All of these guys can have a little chip on their shoulders. Is that my phone? Yeah.
My P.

Speaker 1 All these guys have a chip on their shoulders. You got to get into your Louis Vuitton bag.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Who's FaceTiming you? I'm on here. I can't talk about it.
Senator Dell. Don't tell me.
Who was it? You don't need to know. Okay.
You don't need to know.

Speaker 1 I think Michael Lorman knows. I think he's still got that dog in him.

Speaker 1 Of course, we all do. Yeah, we all do.
We all do. I'm gonna get to Philly and I'll tell you about the dog and all of them.
Let me give him a face with the Philly there.

Speaker 1 So Philly has these guys, very talented guys. Jalen Hurts and Arthur Brown already been friends.
These guys, Jalen Hurst, Devontae Smith,

Speaker 1 A.J. Brown, they can all say, nobody gave us a chance.
See, there's the connector. There's the connector.
AJ Brown. Oh, Tennessee wanted to get rid of me.

Speaker 1 Oh, this person really wants to get in touch with you.

Speaker 4 That's my doorbell.

Speaker 1 Oh. Oh, he's pulling out a different shot.
I got to watch people to see who's trying to come and get my money. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I answer the phone.

Speaker 1 Are you making me money or trying to take my money? If making, I can say, hello, if taking, please hang up.

Speaker 1 That's how I answer.

Speaker 1 How I answer the phone. But yeah, I like Philly because they have something that connects them.
We see the talent, but do you have that one thing that connects you?

Speaker 1 I always say to people, football teams and organizations never win championships. It's got to be a football family because it's going to come down to the peaks in the valleys of the season.

Speaker 1 And if you go in a valley and you can come closer like family, then you can come out that valley better. And these guys have history together.
They have this thing that nobody is giving us a chance.

Speaker 1 And then you put that together with talent yeah yeah you got something let me tell you about the dog in us yeah yeah all of us have at least two of us in each of us some even have more whoa

Speaker 1 some even have more all of us have at least two of us in each of us the great men the great men in this world tries to

Speaker 1 Manage the kids so he doesn't mess up the king. We both got a kid and king in us.
You want to manage that little kid so he doesn't mess up the king.

Speaker 1 Because the kid be want to do a lot of crazy things.

Speaker 1 But the king be like, dude, you can't do that. Call, calm down, calm down.
You know what I mean? Yeah, you can't do it. So I think that's, yeah,

Speaker 1 that's what I tell all great men. You got to make sure, because it's real.
The Bible already says we all fall short of the glory. So all of y'all, they say, I'm perfect.
No, you're not perfect.

Speaker 1 You got some issues. You just ain't told nobody.
That's your kid. We all got our kid.
We all got our issues. There's no one in this room that has given up everything and sold anybody everything.

Speaker 1 You got something you ain't telling nobody because you don't want to let that damn kid out. That's just

Speaker 2 never trust a man that doesn't have any vices whatsoever. Absolutely because they're keeping a big one from you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, right, right, right.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah. Yeah.
I'm seeing, yeah, yeah, I do not. Yeah, you're nodding.
I deny that. I do buy that.

Speaker 1 But that's why I got it. We all got some.
Yeah, yeah. We all got some.
It's actually better when people know your vice because it's like you know it. Right, right, right.

Speaker 1 And that's why it's so funny because, you know, the problem they were having when

Speaker 1 Jim Merce came out on Dan Snyder. That's why they're saying, yeah, are they sending Jim Merce? Because what can he say about Jim Mercy? We already out.
We all.

Speaker 1 It's a good freedom.

Speaker 1 We already out. You know what I mean? So I have a freedom of that.
I just think, I think the Bible says, confess one ye to another. Pray one ye for the other.
In this, we shall find healing.

Speaker 1 So, so, so confessing your journey, what he means by that is

Speaker 1 when we talk, we'll find out we're going through the same things, but nobody ever talks.

Speaker 1 So, you go through the issues isolated because you're not talking with anybody because the devil has told you to shut down and don't say anything. Now, you're going crazy dealing with it by yourself.

Speaker 1 If you open up and talk to a few dudes, dude, say, Man, I'm dealing with the same thing. Or you can meet people or find people in different spectrums at different spectrums of the problem.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? And they can tell you how they came out of it, how they did things. That's why it's important to talk.
And I'm like Ursa. Y'all know about my junk.
Yeah, I'm free.

Speaker 1 Hurt Hurt people hurt people, too. That's the one.

Speaker 7 That's my favorite Bible

Speaker 1 passage. Because that actually is the truth where people will come at you and you're like, what's going on? Right, right.

Speaker 1 You're not doing this because

Speaker 1 you don't just want to be mean. There's something going on with yourself.
There's something else going on. That you're pushing off to someone else.

Speaker 1 And trying to discover and discern that is a whole nother world. Yeah.
Yeah. So you said a point about the Eagles having a family, connecting what they're connected with.
And yeah, right.

Speaker 1 What was your Cowboys team? What was that connection? Was it the White House?

Speaker 1 Well, no, no, no, no. Our connection was losing them damn games early

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 getting our heads kicked in. Now, the reason we were able to be successful,

Speaker 1 and to this day, to this day, I got a text the other day, last Monday, from not today, last Monday, from Troy.

Speaker 1 Right after Monday Night Football. He said, man, I'm getting ready.
You're on the play and get back, man. I just want to tell you guys, I love you.
Me and Emmett.

Speaker 1 That right there. Yeah.
You know, because we came in, we went three and 13, and Troy one in 15. We lost early.

Speaker 1 We had 10, we used to have all these team meetings and talk about things going to change, and they never did. We went right there and lost some more.

Speaker 1 But when we did turn it around, we never had a problem. To this day, we've never had.
That's awesome. That's great.

Speaker 1 We've never had an issue to this day. And every time we talk or text each other, we end it with, I love you, man.
And it's just a beautiful thing. And Jalen Hurst brings this.

Speaker 1 He brings this what a hell of a great leader he is and i'm gonna tell you something you know you guys know enough about rubber banning when you go from one when you go all the way one side to the other it it's like it's glorious imagine having carson went who was aloof yeah and and everybody said he wasn't a great leader they even wanted nick and uh nick foes over him now you go from carson went who's aloof and not a great leader to this dude to this dude jalen hurts who at the the end of every meeting

Speaker 1 and in every game, he stands in there, he talks to his team. At the end of that speech, he always says, family, I love you guys, and they go crazy.
Yeah. They go crazy.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 God darn it. Darn, man.
Somebody get, that Joker said something, man. I messed it up the first time, but I thought it was a great.
He said, I tell all my guys, man, we cannot.

Speaker 1 be the thermometer in the room. We got to be the thermostat.
Ooh. Wow.
Dude, a thermometer just feels the temperature. A thermostat sets the temperature.

Speaker 1 I like that. That's powerful.
Yeah. That's great stuff, man.
That is great stuff. I don't steal that.
I just can't hear it.

Speaker 1 And I mean, Jalen Hurts, we saw it at Alabama, the way he dealt with the Tua situation. And he was ready to come back in when Tua went out in the SEC championship game.

Speaker 1 Like, that tells you everything you need to know about him. He's going right over to Oklahoma

Speaker 1 and win a starting job and everything. There's something different about this dude.
And we only talk about the physical most of the time when it comes to football.

Speaker 1 How fast he runs,

Speaker 1 how high he jumps, how far he throws. But the reality is, what kind of leader are you? Does the physical? Can you get men following you?

Speaker 1 Does the physical, though, like when Jalen Hurts is squatting like 700 pounds, that also has to, the team has to be like, well, this guy's fucking insane.

Speaker 1 But what it does is it say, hey, all of those little fourth and ones where they just pack everybody and go.

Speaker 1 It gives you hope. Yeah.
And let me tell you something. I was telling them this today on first take.
What does hope do? Hope will dictate your effort. Hope will always dictate effort.

Speaker 1 If somebody gives you a lot of hope, man, you're going to give out a whole lot of effort because you got hope, man, I can do this, I can do this.

Speaker 1 But if you have a little bit of hope, you're going to give less effort. Yeah.
Hope will dictate. It's just, it's human nature.
It's human nature. Hope will dictate effort.

Speaker 1 And they know every time they get up in that fourth one, we good. Jayla Hurst SWAT 600.

Speaker 1 So it gives them that hope, which makes makes them put down more effort.

Speaker 1 That's how everyone talks about Tom Brady. And there's definitely that's part of the game that can't be measured in a stat sheet when you hear any of them talk about being down in a game.

Speaker 1 And they look in the huddle and they're like, well, we have Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 And right. And that's the only reason.
And that's why I can't count him out in the NFC South. I know.
There's nothing in the South.

Speaker 1 Atlanta, Carolina.

Speaker 1 What is that? You know what I mean? Atlanta, Carolina.

Speaker 1 I'm not taking Tom Brady out on Atlanta, Carolina. New Orleans.

Speaker 1 That's why I say, Artist Saints, I'm not taking Tom Brady out for Andy Damn Dowden. Yeah, are you joking? I'm not doing it.
That's why I'm still saying, hey, man,

Speaker 1 I can't pick any of them teams in the South. I'm still going with Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 Okay, what about on the AFC side of things? The Philadelphia Eagles, obviously, I think, are them and the Cowboys, they look to be the best teams in the NFC.

Speaker 1 In the 49ers now that they got Kristen McCaffrey.

Speaker 2 They could put something together. It's crazy the element that he brings to the run game.

Speaker 2 We always used to say, like, you could plug anybody into calcium a hand system and you could you could squeeze 1100 yards out of whoever back there but when you get

Speaker 1 a car in there it's like holy

Speaker 1 kind of dude it's incredible and it's not just you know just it's not just a one cut runner that catch he made you you guys you guys know why running backs can't make plays like that think about it all their lives they never had to track a ball that long running backs run little swing passes so you got to track the ball from the quarterback that you it's 10 yards at the most 12 yards at the most The issue becomes, and very few running backs can do it, is when you send them up the field.

Speaker 1 Like that catch Kristen McCaffrey made. That was an up the field catch.
That's a running back tracking the ball for 40 yards. That's not what they do.

Speaker 1 That's not what they do. They get handed the ball.
They don't have to track it. I can track that mug

Speaker 1 no matter what and put my body in position to catch it. Not many running backs can do it.
Kristen McCaffrey can. Yes, you're right.

Speaker 2 I guess out of the West, the Niners look like they could cause some people some problems in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And that defense is still getting better because they still got a lot of guys out. And they're coming back now.

Speaker 2 On the AFC side, are you, it looks like Bills and Chiefs is what it's going to come down to?

Speaker 4 Probably.

Speaker 1 Right, right. And I'm going to tell you, that's another thing, too, man.
And I've been on Patrick Mahomes because I said, you know,

Speaker 1 everybody said, oh, we're not going to miss Tyreek Hill. Yeah, you'll miss him.
You'll miss him. But Patrick Mahomes gives you that thing you need.

Speaker 1 Now, now you got a bunch of two and three receivers, right?

Speaker 1 Two and three, not a real pure number one. But Patrick Mahomes gives you so many opportunities.

Speaker 1 So I can take the twos and the threes and win with them because I'm going to give them a second and third route within the first route. You got to say Travis Kelsey is the number one receiver.

Speaker 1 But Travis Kelsey is the number one target. Yeah.
He's the number one receiver. Yeah, I'm going to give them one receiver, number one target as a tight end.
But boy, and he's a beast.

Speaker 1 He's a great dude, too. I love Travis Kelsey.
That's my guy of all guys, Travis Kelsey. But Patrick Mahomes, when you give a receiver a second chance and then a third chance,

Speaker 1 dude,

Speaker 1 I mean, he's just incredible with that football, man. He is absolutely incredible.
So yeah, I got the Chiefs. I got Buffalo.
You saw what Buffalo looked like last night.

Speaker 1 But I'm telling you right now, I got Miami in that whole race. Oh, okay.
Miami with Tour is a different Miami. Miami with Tour, Tour's 5-0 this season.

Speaker 1 And what has happened this season is great for Tour. I know everybody's been talking about the injuries and everything, but what I'm saying is when Tour was out, they lose.

Speaker 1 When Tour has been in, they win. It's solidified in the locker room.
If anybody had any doubt, that's our guy.

Speaker 1 We need this guy. So now, back to the hope

Speaker 1 dictating effort, I know we got our guy. I can give all I got in this effort.
Yes. Yeah, no, it's a good point.
Like, the difference between watching the Dolphins with and without him is like stark.

Speaker 1 And you're like, okay. Right.

Speaker 1 You need him for that hope. Right.
And as much as we, and coming into the season, nobody said Tor has definitely made his mark that he's going to be the quarterback of the future.

Speaker 1 I say now he's made his mark. He's the quarterback of the future.
So can I bring up not the best stuff when we're talking about the Dolphins? Let's stay there. The U is just in shambles.

Speaker 1 What's going on?

Speaker 1 When is the U going to be back? When is the monster returning? I think we're coming back now. I know everybody wanted it to be.
Big win against Virginia in overtime by two. Right, by two.

Speaker 1 But it's going to take some time to get in coach. We got to get coach guys in.
You know, we got to get... That's true.
It's an overhaul. Right, right.
This is...

Speaker 1 We've got to get Mario guys in. And listen, one of the things Coach Cop talked to me about when he first got it, he said, man,

Speaker 1 we got to do some heavy recruiting. Yeah.
Truth is the cupboard bear. The cupboard is bear.
We have to do some heavy recruiting to get some more guys in here, some guys that can help us win games.

Speaker 1 And I think they're doing that. They're getting those guys in there.
So I want to give him a year or two and then get his guys in and let's see. But Chris Ball is our guy.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the U is in a work in progress. I'm not a Miami fan.
I'm a fan of Danny Boycaine, who's a die-hard Miami fan. Shout out to Danny Boykane.

Speaker 1 Right, we got to work the right way and do it the right way. See, see, here's what I was worried about, too.
That flash win, those flash wins.

Speaker 1 And if they would have won that Texas A ⁇ M game, which was a close game, I believe that would have catapulted them. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 They would have been back because it gives them that confidence. Now,

Speaker 1 even if they're back this year and it's not sustainable, now we're on the roller coaster. So I almost rather walk into it instead of, woo, we're back.
And then next year, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So, so, so, yeah, I think this slow process is going to work out for us.

Speaker 2 What about when your son decided to go to Miami? You know what it's like being a football player at Miami. You probably, I'm going to guess you probably had some wild times as a player there.

Speaker 2 When you sent him off to school,

Speaker 2 were you excited that he was going to go to Miami?

Speaker 1 Are you like, hey,

Speaker 2 you got to watch out down there? Of course.

Speaker 1 What was that situation?

Speaker 1 Listen, man, I ain't said all that I want, man. That dude, 22 years old, stop playing.
Y'all remember what y'all were like at 21, 22. Things were

Speaker 1 working very well and they were always working. Even when you ain't want them working.
You're just trying to sleep and wake it up when they're working. So yeah, you know, Jake.
Right, right, right.

Speaker 1 So I'm expecting, yeah, he had a great time down there.

Speaker 1 I know, I heard you say, yeah, well, you must have really had a great time.

Speaker 1 I had a great time every day.

Speaker 1 Do you, yeah, do you

Speaker 1 speaking of which, like, do you, I mentioned the White House earlier, do you ever just like

Speaker 1 catch yourself daydreaming being like, man, that was fun,

Speaker 1 yeah, like, that was fun.

Speaker 1 Then I got through it good. Yeah, that was fun, right? Still got a job.
Everything's working out.

Speaker 11 Damn, that was fun.

Speaker 1 That was fun. That was some fun shit.

Speaker 1 You just said, damn, that was fun.

Speaker 1 It brings up a great question because you wonder, what would you do? Would you rather go through life not experiencing any of it and never getting in any trouble and having that straight life?

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 1 I got a little trouble. Yeah.
But that shit was fun. Damn, that was fun.
Yeah, because I just think about it.

Speaker 1 Like, you, you got a, if I were you, I would just like every now, like, if, like, someone sees you, you know, uh, in the ESPN office and, like, you're just daydreaming, I'd be like, I think he's probably just,

Speaker 1 it was crazy, man. But you gotta,

Speaker 1 man, I was so broke coming out of the ghetto. I couldn't believe they gave me that kind of money, right? And I didn't know what to do with it.
So, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it was a progress, process, too, getting into the White House. You know, like, why that White House? Yo, we started in the hotels.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was crazy.
That was pretty much

Speaker 1 the house for your apartment. And we moved to an apartment and they were complaining.
You know what I mean? So So I was like, wait a minute, man.

Speaker 1 Why do you, you go to a hotel, you're at the nice hotel, you're going to spend three, four, $500 a night. Right? I was like, man, I'm $400, $500 a night.

Speaker 1 If I did this

Speaker 1 four or five times a month, you know, I'm spending $3,000.

Speaker 1 Somebody else doing this four or five times a month. So why don't I just take $1,000 from a few people? We get us a big old mansion.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? I was trying to, as I said to Jerry, when he called me in the office, when it was breaking news and they found the White House.

Speaker 1 Hey, right? I remember Leon Lett calling me. Michael, man,

Speaker 1 I heard the reporters got a hold of the White House. You man, I'm telling you, man, you should shut it down, man.

Speaker 1 I said, Joker, this ain't no damn movie. This ain't no new Jack Sit.
I ain't closing nothing. Are you crazy? I ain't closing nothing at the White House.
I hung up the phone.

Speaker 1 Man, a few weeks later, man, that they were breaking on the news. I was in meetings and it was breaking it.
Jerry said, oh, Jerry called me. And I said, now? He said, yeah, I'm going to talk to you.

Speaker 1 I said, not now. Getting ready for the games.

Speaker 1 Talk to you. Then he told me all the news was breaking about the White House.
He said, Michael, what the hell were you thinking?

Speaker 1 He says, you know, as long as you tell me the truth, I'm going to back it 100%.

Speaker 1 What were you thinking? I said, honestly, boss.

Speaker 1 I was trying to do the wrong thing the right way.

Speaker 1 That was my exact words. He just started laughing.
He said, what can I even say?

Speaker 1 He said, what can I say? He probably was pissed he didn't get an invite.

Speaker 1 That's right. What he's like, you got to be honest with me.

Speaker 1 He was like, you should have been honest with me. I should have got the invite.

Speaker 1 I better not tell the one time he did say that.

Speaker 1 I better not tell the one time he did.

Speaker 1 But Jerry's just a great dude. He knows how to move around the issue.
Like, you know,

Speaker 1 after all that stuff, I was on probation.

Speaker 1 So now, then I took the White House. I'm on probation.
I can't go to the hotel because it's all the news and business.

Speaker 1 So they don't even want me in the hotel. It might have helped, too.

Speaker 1 It might have helped, like, even when I was going to the hotel, if I just pulled up in another car, I pulled up in all these, you know, Mercedes, Bentley, BMW, and they all had Playmaker right on it.

Speaker 1 Like, if you think I should have just got a rental or something, why pull up with Playmaker right across this car?

Speaker 1 You know, and that's how, that's how, because when we first got to the White House, it was all good. Everything was working well.
And we never never parked the cars at the, you know, at the place.

Speaker 1 We always park somewhere in everybody's kind of shuttle over a bus over so we'll have all these houses in the yard. And we picked the older neighborhood,

Speaker 1 owner neighborhood. So, you know,

Speaker 1 we could just kind of sneak in. But, you know, as it gets older and older and later and later, everybody's drinking.
Nobody follows the rules. Right.

Speaker 1 So sooner or later, we had 30 cars parked all up on the, you know what I mean? And that's kind of how we got busted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, but it sounds like a great sometimes it's fun to do the wrong thing the right way yeah that's yeah yeah yeah that's kind of how we operate it saved me because even when I got called right when in the hotel when they came to the hotel and the guy went and got all the he went and got all the

Speaker 1 all all the information all the data from all the other times I was in the hotel room they had everything

Speaker 1 that's messed up that they were putting all this manpower into like it was the wire like right Michael Irvin's partying again right like what I mean I guarantee they ain't win a Super Bowl since I left.

Speaker 1 I guarantee you right now,

Speaker 1 if I was playing right now and they came in that room and said,

Speaker 1 finish doing what you're doing, take you back on the Philly with us or Super Bowl. So yeah,

Speaker 1 that might be the problem.

Speaker 2 Why don't the Dallas Cowboys players get their own White House?

Speaker 2 The teams that parties together win Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 Well, and there's something to that.

Speaker 1 The teams that do spend time together, which you don't have to necessarily be partying like we were,

Speaker 1 but it does help when you have that kind of union. And you usually get get that when you're hanging out having fun.

Speaker 1 You don't get that kind of union and commitment one to another when it's not in the midst of fun. Yes.
You were talking about

Speaker 2 Jerry a second ago. I'm curious to know what he was like back in the day and how hands-on he was with the team.
Like,

Speaker 2 if you guys lost,

Speaker 2 would Jerry come into the locker room and talk to you or chew you out or do something different? Or would he just let that all up to the coach? No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Jerry gets to speak sometimes. Jerry will come in to speak.
But Jerry's the most optimistic dude in the world, man. Jerry's the most optimistic.
He always sees

Speaker 1 the positive in everything.

Speaker 1 And it's right away. It's right away, no matter what.
You know, I was in a situation one time, somebody had accused me of something, and I wasn't even there.

Speaker 1 And I said, Jerry called me to his office then. I said, Boss, I said, what? He said, yeah, they're saying, I said,

Speaker 1 I said, boss, listen. This time, that's not me.
This time it wasn't me. This time it wasn't me, right? Right, right.
And he was like, Michael, just tell me. I said, boss, listen to me.

Speaker 1 This time, it wasn't me. I wasn't there.
I was dropping my daughter off somewhere else.

Speaker 1 And he instantly turned. He was like,

Speaker 1 great, we can use this. You know, he saw the positive in it.
I'm being blasted everywhere. He saw something positive.
Great. We can use this.
And you sure you weren't?

Speaker 1 I said, Jerry, I promise you I wasn't there. And it turned out that I wasn't.
I had to end up suing the station and all the stuff. Well, I got a couple million dollars from him.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 But nobody ever hears that interview. Yeah, no, they don't get the retraction.
Um, all right, so, uh, Playmaker, this has been awesome.

Speaker 1 We have one, I have one last question because I know you're going to do another interview with Out and About Guys, which should be fantastic. Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 I don't think I asked you this the last time you were on, but our colleague, who we've gotten to know very well, Deion Sanders, what type of teammate was Deion?

Speaker 1 What was Dion? Because he doesn't drink. No.

Speaker 1 Don't drink, don't smoke, don't do anything.

Speaker 1 Did he go to the White House? No. Really? No.
So, what was he like, though, as a teammate? No, Dion, no, Dion,

Speaker 1 Dion never did any of that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's not to say Dion don't like beautiful people when he was young. Yeah, beautiful people.
Like, we all like beautiful people. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 He definitely liked beautiful people, but he was a little more dolo solo and his beautiful likes. Yeah.
You see what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, so, but no, man, that's, I consider Dion one of my best friends, man. He'll text me the same thing, man.
I love you, man. I love you.
I told people when, wherever Dion goes,

Speaker 1 wherever he goes, he's going to make it better.

Speaker 1 He's going to make it better. You just, no matter where he goes, he's that good.

Speaker 1 He's that direct. He's that committed.
I used to tell him all the time, because we used to travel together where we were trying. He used to, when I first got in, I retired and I got in trouble.

Speaker 1 I lost the job I had on TV. He was really trying to help me get back on TV.
He was with CBS. So we were traveling, meeting people like, you know, B.E.T.

Speaker 1 We were going to do a show, Prime and Mike, Mike and Prime. It was so funny.
We were in the meeting with B.E.T. and they were loving it.
They wanted to buy it.

Speaker 1 They were like, what do we want to call it? Mike and Prime or Prime and Mike? And Dion said, I said, Mike and Prime. Mike and Prime, right? Dion said, Dion said, yeah, yeah, we call it Mike and Prime.

Speaker 1 I said, wait, wait, whoa, he gave it up too easy. Wait a minute.
I want Prime and Mike.

Speaker 1 Why did he give it up?

Speaker 1 There must be something to it. But we just had so much fun, man, and all the things we did, man.
And Deion, I love him. He's the best.
He is really the best. You know, I recruited Deion.

Speaker 1 I brought him over to Dallas. You know, Deion called me when he was in San Francisco, man, and he said, man, listen, man, you know, Dallas is coming at me hard.

Speaker 1 I said, why must we keep killing each other? Why can't we just play together?

Speaker 1 Why must we keep killing each other out here? He was like, man, yeah, I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 1 And I told him then, I said, whatever you think Sam Friend is, multiply by 10 and you'll scratch the surface of what it's like playing for the Dallas. That's a good sale.

Speaker 2 You think he was sick of having to guard you? So he's like, I'll just join the Cowboys. That way I don't have to guard Michael Irvin anymore.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 who got the best of who?

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Deion is such a phenomenal athlete. Man, I put Deion on the map.
I ran an out and up in college. Out and up.
I had this Joker beat. I had him beat, man.
I saw him bite on the out.

Speaker 1 I said, oh, this Joker going. He was just a freshman.
He just started playing. I said, this Joker just bid on that out.

Speaker 1 And and i waved on the ball come on ball come and deon turned around after he ran he bit on the out turned back around caught me with the ball ran outran the ball caught up with me pushed me down jumped up caught the football i'm laying on the ground looking back like look at this joker running with my football had the ball hot knees hot knees all the way down man this is a college i said look at this joker now but i you know i never lost to him in college i never lost to florida state in college we always we always beat him But Deion, I've had some great battles with him, man.

Speaker 1 I call him the greatest. Deion's one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Bardone, one of the greatest athletes, just a physical specimen of physical talent.

Speaker 2 Is there anybody else on that list we might not be thinking of? Like your best athletes you've ever been on the field with?

Speaker 1 Boy, that's a great question. Great question.
But

Speaker 1 I haven't seen many people that I will put in the class as an athlete of Deion Sanders. There's nothing Deion can't do.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, we were in dunk contests doing basketball and stuff when you do dunk guns. Tackle.
He can't tackle. Yeah.
Well, he didn't want to. Well, he can't.
He can. He choose not to

Speaker 1 own a business decision. Deion,

Speaker 1 I was like, it's like people were always asking me about blocking. I'm a block.
I'm a block.

Speaker 1 But I can't take that block in the Jerry Jones saying, give me more money. I can only take that damn reception in there.
So can we please get to throw me some passes around?

Speaker 1 We can call it, I need a block, I need a blocker. I got an argument with somebody one time.
He said, man, I'm a better blocker. I said, they can't risk me blocking too much, buddy.

Speaker 1 I'm too valuable to catch you to be risking

Speaker 1 blocking all the time. But yeah, man, there's very few people like Deion Sanders.
Yeah. All right.
Well, Playmaker, thank you so much for coming in. This has been phenomenal.
You're welcome anytime.

Speaker 1 We love having you on. Your stories are great.
So we appreciate it. And hopefully we see you soon.
Absolutely, guys. You guys do see this, right? You understand.

Speaker 1 This is the only way we get to share and talk.

Speaker 1 Men won't open up won't talk the only way you really get men talking is to come through sports that's the only way that's true because we can hold on to our manhood if we're talking to sports did you ever notice too that even our dating game our dating life reverts back to sports did you score

Speaker 1 did you get the second base

Speaker 1 everything

Speaker 1 we bring back to sports Everything. So you guys creating a locker room like you have here, it is important.
We can talk about a lot of things, but it's the only way men get therapy to men.

Speaker 1 As long as we come in the door of sports and we can open up some conversations, have real conversations.

Speaker 1 I don't mind sharing some of the things we went through because as the Bible says, I'm trying to confess.

Speaker 1 And then I'm going to pray. And then hopefully we all get better because we all got some issues.
As I said, we're all trying to mitigate the kid so he doesn't kill our king.

Speaker 2 I always say that therapists should just have a football in their office and you just have a catch

Speaker 1 talking to them.

Speaker 1 I think guys are going to open up more, but yeah, no doubt. For real, though, that's how we are, man.
So, so that's why it's important that we have things like this.

Speaker 1 So, you guys keep doing what you're doing. Thank you, man.
Thank you very much.

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Speaker 16 Now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, it's time for one question with the quarterback. We welcome on Los Angeles Chargers quarterback Chase Daniel,

Speaker 1 legendary guy, legendary NFL player. We have one question from all of us.
I'm going to let PFT go first, and then I'll do my one question.

Speaker 16 I'm excited.

Speaker 2 My one question is, do you think that you can continue to play until you're 45 years old?

Speaker 1 Oh, God, no. I don't want to.

Speaker 16 I don't want to. Like, I've played 14 years right now, right? And it's been great.
And I say play, right? I've only started a handful of games, got into some mop-up duty, but I don't know.

Speaker 16 I just, I, I mean, do I possibly think I can to 45? I don't know. That's that's Brady's job.
But for me, I don't want to. I want to do something else with my life eventually.

Speaker 16 I mean, it's a good gig, don't get me wrong, but you know, I got three little kids. I want to watch them grow up.
I want to see them grow up. I want to spend time with them.
But

Speaker 16 I don't think the league wants me around that long anyway. People are already pissed off and mad at me.

Speaker 2 So I would disagree. Yeah.
I can't ask a follow-up question, but I'm just, as a statement, I would disagree. I would push back strongly on that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to disagree too. And my follow-up question would be kind of similar to that.
Do you, would you say, you know, obviously Tom Brady, seven Super Bowls, Peyton Manning, all these records.

Speaker 1 But would you argue, and I would make this argument, but I want to know what your take is that you actually have the greatest NFL career of all time with 178 past completions and $42 million made.

Speaker 16 Only 178?

Speaker 1 That's it? I think it might be 178.

Speaker 1 I can't follow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 178. 178

Speaker 1 and $42 million made. That's the greatest NFL career of all time.
Care to comment?

Speaker 1 Is that a question? That's a question. That was a question.
Yeah.

Speaker 16 I listen, look, guys. I'm, I've had a hell of a career.
It's, it's been known. It's, everyone wants to talk about the money.
The money's awesome. My, my health is awesome.
My brain is good.

Speaker 16 I feel young, spry. I'm only 36.

Speaker 16 But I, I wouldn't say it's the greatest career ever. I mean, you look at Tom Brady, right? Like.

Speaker 16 um the goat like i don't care what he's doing this year i don't care how quote unquote bad he's playing this year he's he's he's the best to ever do it and listen it just, it's, it's so funny to me because every time

Speaker 16 that I'll like get some camera time in a game or go into the game, Twitter just goes nuts. And there's always a meme, there's always something that goes viral.

Speaker 16 And it's probably you two doing it one of the times. Like, hey, these, this past attempts, this much money.

Speaker 16 Um, listen, the money's been good, but it doesn't, it doesn't necessarily define who I am. And look, listen, I don't, I don't take it for granted because it's been a really good career.

Speaker 16 I've honestly, like, I've played well, but I think I have just a really good agent.

Speaker 1 That's the honesty.

Speaker 16 Like, I feel like my agent should go down as a hall of fame.

Speaker 1 I would agree with that.

Speaker 16 Yeah, and it's, it's been good. And, and, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll still go maybe a year or two more and then see what else goes into it.
I might, you know, join you guys

Speaker 16 some more with some. with some uh media stuff.
But,

Speaker 16 you know, I want to stay in the game of football, but I've, I've been really blessed, really lucky to, to have a good agent, not even a really good career, just a good agent.

Speaker 1 This isn't a question. This is just a follow-up real quick calculator math.
Tom Brady's made $40,000 per completion. You've made $235,000 per completion.

Speaker 2 His completions are way better than Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that wasn't a question. That was just a way more expensive.

Speaker 16 Expensive completions.

Speaker 1 They're rare. They're rare.

Speaker 2 It's like an NFT.

Speaker 1 Each one is a beautiful little snowflake.

Speaker 16 And I'm sure if you did the touchdowns for money made, it'd be even more.

Speaker 1 Yes, we should start an NFT business that's literally just your highlights past completions because there's only so many.

Speaker 16 With the highlight and let me go viral again because, listen, I need to go viral. I need more followers.
I only got like 130,000.

Speaker 2 I would hate it if he did get into media after he retired and he became a podcaster and got paid seven times as much as us and did one show a week.

Speaker 1 21 board apes per episode. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Billy, yeah. We got other guys in the room, so that's our only.
Yeah, go ahead. We're done with the questions.

Speaker 2 Hi, Chase.

Speaker 10 Billy here. Just wondering, what's your favorite thing to contribute to a quarterback room?

Speaker 1 Ooh, good question.

Speaker 16 Favorite thing to contribute. I've never been asked that question, Billy.
Good job, Billy.

Speaker 16 I would say I'm actually... Just so you guys know, like we're watching film.
We're trying to get ready for the Falcons right now.

Speaker 16 And I decided, hey, I need to take 10 minutes because that's what Big Cat said was going to take this. So I'm up here

Speaker 16 talking to you guys. The favorite thing to contribute would probably be,

Speaker 16 do you guys like coffee at all?

Speaker 16 Coffee coming to you huge coffee guy yep okay have you heard of the jura coffee machine before a jura j-u-r-a okay you need to check it out online it's a little expensive but it makes the best coffee that i've ever had in my entire life I brought it when I was in 2017, I brought it to the attention of Drew Brees.

Speaker 16 He now has like three in his house because he's Drew Brees. Yep.

Speaker 16 And like one in every room. Brought it to Mitchell Trubisky in Chicago.
He has one in his house and one at the facility

Speaker 16 in Pittsburgh. And I brought it to Justin and Easton here in LA.
And now we have one in ours. So

Speaker 16 it's good because we drink, like we burn the midnight oil here a little bit. We work 60, 70 hours a week and we like coffee.

Speaker 1 So that's that's probably mine.

Speaker 1 That's a great answer. Very fair.
Very favorite answer. Yeah.

Speaker 2 They're like $2,000. I'm looking at it online.
But everyone loves the guy that brings the really nice coffee machine.

Speaker 1 Well, also, it's not $2,000. It's one two-hundredth of a completion.
It's a kneel-down. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 We can get that easy.

Speaker 16 And it's all about the coffee beans, too. You got to get the right coffee beans.
You can't go cheap on the coffee beans if you go expensive on the coffee maker.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, that's true. That's true.
That's like the opposite of buy a shitty bike and a good lock. Exactly.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake?

Speaker 9 Yeah. Hi, Chase.
Jake Marsh, Part of My Take Podcast.

Speaker 8 I want to know in how many seconds could you recite your NFL team career path?

Speaker 1 Ooh, my gosh.

Speaker 7 Let's do it. Washington.

Speaker 1 New Orleans,

Speaker 16 KC, Philly for a year, back to New Orleans, Chicago, Detroit, LA.

Speaker 9 7.67 seconds.

Speaker 13 Nice.

Speaker 1 That's elite nice. That's pretty good.
And I was on seven teams?

Speaker 2 You've got that good brain. You were right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Max.

Speaker 16 A lot of people don't realize that I was with Washington, with Jim Zorn.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, the legend, Todd Collins, for a while.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Todd Collins, great.

Speaker 1 Bears legend too.

Speaker 2 3-0 as a Washington football team. Yes.

Speaker 1 Legend. All right, Max is our last question, then your question.
So go ahead, Max. Oh, Memes, do you have a question?

Speaker 2 Memes has one too.

Speaker 1 Memes, oh, we have, yeah, so this is kind of our trick on the on the one question.

Speaker 7 Yeah, go ahead, Max.

Speaker 6 Uh, I'd just really like to know who's one quarterback that you would love to back up.

Speaker 1 Ooh, question.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 16 One. Honestly, I'm a huge fan of Josh Allen.
Yeah. Like, love his demeanor.
Obviously, everyone knows what he does on the field. He's a baller.

Speaker 16 He's probably playing at one of the highest levels that we've seen in a long time. But I just think Josh, like, I know Case, right?

Speaker 16 So I know Case Keenum is backup now, and Case says nothing but great things about him. And he just seems really fun.
It seems like they have a really good quarterback room.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love that. Agree.

Speaker 2 I also love the notion that maybe

Speaker 2 there's an awesome backup quarterback group chat out there that I don't know about.

Speaker 16 I need to start it. I need to start it.

Speaker 16 There is not one because I know I would be in that one if there was one, but I'm not in it. So maybe I need to start it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like you, Matt Castle, probably be in there. Chas batch, right?

Speaker 1 Big cat loves Chaz Batch, probably Chad Henney. Chad Henney's been around for a long time.
Yep, yep, yep, that's a fact. Matt Moore, Matt Moore, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, memes. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 Your question: How much did the double doink suck?

Speaker 1 Oh, memes, that was mean.

Speaker 1 That was mean, memes.

Speaker 16 I just, I really loved that team.

Speaker 1 And yeah, same.

Speaker 16 And like, really, really did. Like, thought we were like going to go somewhere special.

Speaker 16 I think if we won, we were going to go to LA, maybe. And we already had already beaten golf, like, got four turnovers from him.

Speaker 16 That one was tough because I was just so proud of how Mitch fought through that game and then was able to lead us down on the two-minute drive.

Speaker 16 And when you have a 40-something yard field, you think you're going to make it. And the first doink, you're like, oh, it's going in because it didn't go straight back.
We're like, yes.

Speaker 16 And it hit the second, you're like, oh, damn. And then you're like, oh, well, we, did we really, it was just like, it was, it was another experience.
Like, it's just an outer body experience.

Speaker 16 Like, there's no shot we lost to this team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But, oh, yeah.
Thanks for bringing it up. Yeah.
Appreciate it. That sucked a lot.
Okay. Chase, your one question for us.

Speaker 16 Okay. Mostly for you, big cat.
So, you know, when Mizzou was playing Georgia,

Speaker 16 right? And you and I were on the hook, possibly for a lot of money at the bar tab. What was the most expensive you would go?

Speaker 16 Like, what is the most amount of money you would be willing to spend without your wife just absolutely cutting your balls off?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it was quite a night. For anyone who doesn't remember,

Speaker 1 I just happened to see Chase's tweet in the morning. He was like, if Mizzou beats Georgia, drinks on me for a couple hours at, what was the bar called? Harpo's.
Harpo's. And

Speaker 1 we have a running joke on this show where whenever like charity or anything comes up that we're not actually going to do, we're like, oh, we would have doubled that. Like we would have doubled it.

Speaker 1 We would have matched. So I was like, yeah, I'll double it.
That's fine. And then Mizzou goes on to almost beat Georgia.
I did have a conversation with my wife before she went to sleep that night.

Speaker 1 And I was like, hey, just a heads up,

Speaker 1 got myself in a little situation here.

Speaker 1 And she's like, how bad? And I was like, it could be like $20,000.

Speaker 7 And she's like, thank God for her.

Speaker 1 Cause she's like, well, it's only money. Like, it's, you know, we'll be okay.
But like, I was, she was a little upset that I had just.

Speaker 1 just tweeted that out and just been because she was like wait georgia and mizzoo what like what's the connection i was like there is none. I'm a fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 And so she's, she's very, she knows how stupid I am. So it wasn't like, thankfully, it wasn't surprising that I had gotten myself in a situation like that.

Speaker 16 Your wife is a lot probably better at that than my wife. Cause when my wife, my wife's like not on Twitter, she's on Instagram, but she has a Twitter she follows.
She thinks I tweet dumb stuff.

Speaker 16 She lets me know about it all the time. And when she learned about that, I get a phone call.
Usually it's just a text. When I get a phone call from my wife, usually something's happened to my kid.

Speaker 16 I'm in trouble. Right.

Speaker 1 And so so she's like you understand how much money that is going to be you are an idiot stop yeah tweeting dumb stuff and i'm like god no yeah i think i think the different the reason i i get more of a pass is she is married to uh someone who gambles a lot so the bets happen constantly in my household um so it's it's it's a kind of an ebb and flow constantly of like hey okay yeah twenty thousand dollars mizzo it was like it's it's getting a lot of traction Like, it's people are really interested in this.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 16 when I tweeted that, right, like, I was just thinking, like, ah, and then it just went by, like, everybody, I got like my phone blowing up. Mizzou's winning.

Speaker 16 And I'm just like in Houston in my hotel room. Like, you and I are texting the whole second half, like, how do you want to do this, man? Like, we're going to be out money.
Like, oh, my God.

Speaker 16 Like, my phone's blowing up. Like, what are we going to do?

Speaker 1 It would have cost us a lot of money because I did, I, because they were so close, I did the 2,000 open bar and it went in like 10 10 minutes. So quick, so quick.

Speaker 16 It would have been way more than we thought.

Speaker 1 I didn't know how big the bar was either. People were sending me pictures.

Speaker 7 They're like, this is hard post.

Speaker 2 So, wait, were you at the end, like in your heart of hearts, were you rooting for Mizzou? Or were you secretly hoping that they'd just get close to me?

Speaker 1 Ask me that. You're asking me that.
You're asking me that. You're asking me that.

Speaker 2 But, Cat, were you like secretly? I know that you're like, you're basically an alum of Mizzou.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I played football.
It's almost like you played there for a while.

Speaker 2 At the end of the game, were you like kind of hoping that they lost?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's a good question.

Speaker 2 If somebody else wanted to chime in, anyone wants to chime in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, listen,

Speaker 16 I love Mizzou.

Speaker 16 Like, I am like their biggest fan. But to be completely honest with you, I was hoping that they'd get really close and lose at the end because I was not ready to spend that money.

Speaker 16 I mean, listen, I would have done it like easily, like no questions asked.

Speaker 1 And it was

Speaker 1 a good status. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 And you would have helped.

Speaker 16 And John Anderson from ESPN was like bumping in. So it was like cutting third.
But secretly, I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Like, I hope to get close.

Speaker 1 If we were at the game, I think it would have been a lot different because then we could have partied with everyone. Yeah.

Speaker 16 At the bar on top of the bar.

Speaker 1 Like, that would have been cool. Yeah.
Paying for everyone's bar tab to have a great night when I'm sitting on my couch is it's not the best. That's not the funnest.
Yeah. No, no, no, no.
All right.

Speaker 1 Well, Chase, thank you so much. We've got to have you on for a real interview sometime.

Speaker 1 Good luck this week against the Falcons. And yeah, we really appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 16 Yeah, thanks, guys, for having me.

Speaker 1 All right. Thanks.

Speaker 2 Good luck, man.

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Bison meatloaf, chicken enchiladas, turkey lasagna, the kind of meals that taste like Saturday night, even on a Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Crave New World.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up, guys on chicks. Henry?

Speaker 1 Henry? Danny? Henry? Donnie.

Speaker 4 Hey, boys.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey. My boyfriend always

Speaker 4 says sorry while he's coming.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 No matter if the sex is good or not.

Speaker 4 I tell him to stop apologizing because it's such a turnoff, but this has been going on for eight years.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 4 How do I get him to stop?

Speaker 2 What's he apologizing for? Is it quick?

Speaker 4 It's got to be quick.

Speaker 1 It has to be quick. Roman swipes, use them now.

Speaker 1 This feels like a therapist question.

Speaker 1 This feels like a deep-seated sorry.

Speaker 1 Like, why are you...

Speaker 7 Or it's just quick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but she said, even if it's good.

Speaker 2 What, Billy?

Speaker 3 It could be Canadian.

Speaker 1 Could be Canadian. Could be very, very, like, you know,

Speaker 1 this person. Sorry.
Sorry. Here comes the syrup.
Got a little bit of come there. Yeah.
Oh.

Speaker 2 Watch out. Watch out now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to say.

Speaker 2 It's icing.

Speaker 1 Roman and BetterHelp.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 1 use that combination for him.

Speaker 2 And maybe get a new mattress. Yeah.
He's probably, yeah. Maybe he thinks it hurts you on your old mattress that you have.

Speaker 1 You could also just reverse it and say sorry to him like instantly.

Speaker 2 Yeah, don't apologize for coming.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just you say sorry right away. You're like, sorry, I already came.
You're so hot.

Speaker 2 Listen, from an evolutionary point of view, it's beneficial to come really fast.

Speaker 2 That's what a lot of women don't realize. It's that that's how our ancestors were able to procreate more successfully.
Was you get in, you get out.

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 2 Done. Wham, bam.
Thank you, ma'am.

Speaker 1 We are just products of

Speaker 1 thousands and thousands of years of men before us.

Speaker 2 Yeah, listen, my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather

Speaker 2 got able to bust a nut to a cave painting in five seconds.

Speaker 2 That's what you had to do.

Speaker 1 And a rock fell on him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, Hank, that's fucked up.

Speaker 1 Hey, what's up, guys? Hey. Hey, what's up? What's up?

Speaker 4 I met my boyfriend a little over a year ago at a bar in in Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 4 He's an awesome guy with the best personality, but the first thing I noticed about him was that he was totally packing in the front of his jeans.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 4 After dating for a couple months, we actually slept together for the first time, and I was so excited to see this dick he had been packing in his jeans and suit pants for all of our dates.

Speaker 4 Plot twist, I was completely caught off guard by how small it was.

Speaker 4 I didn't express to him my disappointment and let it go in the moment. I didn't want to hurt his feelings because he's incredibly nice and puts off major PFT vibes.
Whoa.

Speaker 4 However, I was totally confused about the huge bulge in his jeans two hours later that very same night.

Speaker 1 Okay, so never finished. I'm not finished.

Speaker 2 No, I actually have a recommendation for him.

Speaker 1 Well, can I finish, though?

Speaker 2 Yeah, just apologize after you're done.

Speaker 4 I still chose to not voice anything in fear of hurting his feelings. Well, long story short, we moved in together a month ago, and my questions have now been answered the very first morning.

Speaker 4 I caught him stuffing a thermal crew sock in the front of his jeans as he got dressed for work. Turns out he does this every single morning.
Is this a red flag?

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is a big drink.

Speaker 4 He really is a great person. I love being with him, but this seems like something deep-rooted.

Speaker 2 This is definitely deep-rooted.

Speaker 4 Should I address a situation?

Speaker 1 I've never heard of this. Yeah, this is actually.

Speaker 4 He's got to have the smallest dick of all ever.

Speaker 2 Actually, bizarre.

Speaker 2 Well, I don't know if it's necessary. Like, he might have the smallest dick of all the people.

Speaker 2 Just the fact that he's like stuffing a thermal sock. I've worn thermal socks before.

Speaker 2 It's obscene.

Speaker 2 He wants people to look at his dick. That's the issue.

Speaker 1 I've never heard of this move.

Speaker 2 Because if you have a small dick out.

Speaker 4 Girls don't check out guys' dicks.

Speaker 1 No. No.
It's not the reverse. Guys check out other guys' dicks.
Yeah. Yeah.
Really? I was thinking.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 4 I thought you were saying guys check out girls. And then I said, yeah, before you finish the sentence.

Speaker 1 Because I test. As a man who wears.

Speaker 1 Eyes are up here, Hank.

Speaker 2 I wear sweatpants

Speaker 2 probably 70% of the year. And

Speaker 2 I've learned that you have to be very cognizant. You can't wear like gray sweatpants because that makes everybody in the room uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 No matter if you have a big bulge or a small bulge, whatever it is, the fact that he's encouraging people to look at his crotch, I think, is a pretty big red flag.

Speaker 1 Yeah, problems. Pretty big.
Problems.

Speaker 4 It's also like, what's the best case scenario? Girls, like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 And, like, literally, this happened. The girl's like, his dick is so big.

Speaker 4 I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to show it eventually.

Speaker 4 And then you're just rolling in with a micro.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's a big time. See, he's got some body issues.
And why?

Speaker 2 why is he why is he doing this even though he has a girlfriend right now also a good point yeah he should his tube sock days should be over at this point this small dick is this guy

Speaker 4 this guy must be the total minus this package the total package yeah this girl to like move in with him and shit right yeah

Speaker 2 that should have been the biggest red flag and then like you would think she would tell her girlfriends they'd be like get the fuck out yeah yeah i would my suggestion was going to be if if he just has a small dick just like wear if you wear meundis

Speaker 2 it helps with the circulation yeah it's always a good dick day

Speaker 4 my husband bought way too much Halloween candy and the deal was I'd hide it until Halloween passed and he could have the leftovers

Speaker 4 no trick-or-treaters came to our house and I'm thinking of throwing 90% of the candy out for his own good because he does not need that much candy will this jeopardize our marriage yes don't do it at some point every every girlfriend turns into a mom I don't know when that happens, but the way that

Speaker 2 your partner looks at you eventually becomes more like a mom, and it sounds like you've entered this where it's like, you don't need all this candy.

Speaker 1 He does need all that candy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you don't get to tell him what to, you're not his mom. You don't get to tell him that he's not allowed to eat.
Like, oh, no, it's too, it's past your bedtime.

Speaker 1 That's too much sugar for you. I was last night, last night, Halloween, I was, I was like Genie Sachs going down to the

Speaker 1 to the washer and dryer. When my kids went to sleep, I was just raiding the bags.
No, don't look at me. I'm trying, Johnny.

Speaker 2 Remember that scene? Yeah, and then the cop showed up at his house and he tried to run away through the snow.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Were you taking like doubles? Just

Speaker 4 Were you extincting like his Reese's?

Speaker 1 Well, there was also like, I mean, my son's three and a half. He has no concept.
Like, he, we were, we went trick-or-treating for like maybe 30 minutes.

Speaker 1 And 10 minutes in, he was like, Dad, my, my bag is so heavy from all this candy. And I looked in, there was like 10 pieces.
So he won't know.

Speaker 2 You want to know a little secret? You can just go out to the store and buy a big bag of candy and just have that.

Speaker 1 He eats enough candy. Like, we're a dunnovs right now.

Speaker 2 We can, if I wanted to, I could go buy a giant thing of Reese's peanut butter cup, and I could come back and I could eat it. Disagree.
No, I could.

Speaker 1 Disagree solely because Halloween candy tastes better than every other candy.

Speaker 2 But it's still Halloween candy.

Speaker 1 But it's just

Speaker 1 free Halloween candy in the variety. There's nothing that because you can, yeah, Billy's right.

Speaker 1 I went Reese's to Twizzler's to York to like

Speaker 1 a variety bag. I can buy all of them.
No pitch. You know me,

Speaker 2 I've got a job. I can afford it.
I can go to a store right now and I can buy myself York, Three Musketeers, Milky Way, Milky Way Dark Snickers.

Speaker 1 It's not free.

Speaker 1 It's not Halloween candy.

Speaker 2 I can even get some Sour Patch kids and eat it all by myself.

Speaker 1 It's not free Halloween candy.

Speaker 4 Side note, I guess we can just address this. This is kind of a funny text.
I just got a text from a woman that works upstairs on the YouTube side, and she said, Hey, quick question.

Speaker 4 None of you PMT guys are part of SAG, right? Screen Actors Guild. That's a no.
I just wanted to double-check that.

Speaker 2 No. I'm not, but the way that they're asking makes me think that we should be to get more money.

Speaker 4 Sounds like we could get.

Speaker 2 Yeah, something. Wait.

Speaker 4 I think we're going to be in a sizzle for a while.

Speaker 1 billy joins a union they're union busting us right now always like always sunny episode billy joins a union i think it's pretty easy to join

Speaker 1 well you're gonna have to now okay yeah we have to act yeah and what i can act

Speaker 1 what do you think i'm doing right now

Speaker 1 it's all a bit billy

Speaker 1 nice

Speaker 4 all right last one uh there's uh yeah we'll do last one some of the one of the questions was just what are your thoughts on andrew tate memes is just laughing laughing and laughing it up over there uh we can maybe we'll do uh Billy can do a side chat with that.

Speaker 10 He's like the guy.

Speaker 2 You do spaces.

Speaker 1 You know what? Do a Twitter spaces.

Speaker 3 He's the guy with the terrible stock. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's Billy's personal hero. No, he's not.

Speaker 4 He's a top G. If I was acting, I'd say yes.

Speaker 1 You're confused. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I'm going to have to dive into this.

Speaker 2 He makes a lot of interesting points.

Speaker 4 Hey, dad, cat, father of two, not a drug guy, PFT, angry Hank. That's an act.
And Billy, thank you for your service. Please help me name my boyfriend's drunk alter ego.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 We've been dating for four years, so obviously not a deal-breaker at this point. He's not normally an emotional guy, but every time he blacks out, it is full-on sad boy hours.
Oh.

Speaker 4 Not sure what the cause is, but as the drinks flow, so do the tears.

Speaker 4 This is a well-known thing among our friends, so I think there is no way to stop it, and we need to have a name for this drink and sad alter ego. Also, shout out to Batgirl.

Speaker 4 Needed more girl energy on the pod.

Speaker 1 What about just John Feidelberg?

Speaker 10 I got a buddy like this, and we call him Eeyore.

Speaker 1 Doing it sad.

Speaker 1 I have one of my best friends in the whole world. We gave him the nickname in college, and I still am very good friends with him.

Speaker 1 Biff, when he got drunk, because he just had an alter ego of like tough guy. And he's just, it's great because he's Biff.

Speaker 2 What about crying gosling?

Speaker 2 I don't know if he's like a dark and stormy guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Why don't you just call him a bitch?

Speaker 1 And then he'll stop. No, he'll just keep crying.
Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Do you really think I'm a bitch?

Speaker 2 He gets tear goggles.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like Eeyore. Eeyore's pretty good.
Eeyore's pretty good.

Speaker 2 I feel bad for Eeyore.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 He just always loses tail, man. He just needs a friend.

Speaker 10 He needs better help. He has friends.

Speaker 1 He just can't get out.

Speaker 2 Does he have friends or can't get out of his stick?

Speaker 1 I don't think he has friends.

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 10 everybody goes to see Eicky.

Speaker 2 He's got fake friends that talk about him behind behind his back.

Speaker 10 No, everyone goes to see Eeyore and he just won't get out of his stick house.

Speaker 1 This is actually genius, though, by this girl, because if you once you name it, he'll stop doing it all the time. Be like, is Eeyore coming out? Are you bringing Eeyore out?

Speaker 1 And he'd be like, no, I'm not. I'm not Eeyore.
Stop calling me Eeyore.

Speaker 2 I actually think that a guy that cries all the time when he's drunk is actually more emotionally healthy than the TubeSock guy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, TubeSock guy's a serial killer. Yeah.
Watch out.

Speaker 1 He is a domer in waiting.

Speaker 1 Okay. Numbers.
You're off sides. Yeah, so 69.
Actually, would you like 69, PLT?

Speaker 2 No, you can have a big cat.

Speaker 1 Reciprocity is important.

Speaker 2 17. I'm going to say, oh, man.
18.

Speaker 1 Memes?

Speaker 1 3. 3.

Speaker 10 So I can pick one now? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was a fair penalty. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You jumped off sides an hour and a half early. I know.

Speaker 1 I'm going to try to test something out. Billy just went home on Sunday night and was like, I got to come up with a a plan to get 69.
They're on to me. He's going to start setting a lot of people.

Speaker 4 You're paying attention to the show, but like you knew that that segment was wrapping up. So anytime the segment's wrapping up, you're like 69.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 10 That's acting. 74.

Speaker 1 74. All right.
Hank, what was your number? Have you got it?

Speaker 4 17. I have not ever gotten this.
You've never gotten it.

Speaker 1 I'm about to get it right the fuck up. Oh, you are? Yeah.
For those at home, you want to act tall. You talk about it? Yeah, no chance you're getting it right.

Speaker 10 For those at home, 74 was at the bottom, and I'm testing if that's it.

Speaker 1 0% chance Hank gets it right.

Speaker 1 And 18! Mang!

Speaker 1 Bang! Number four!

Speaker 1 Yeah! Number four! Jake! Yeah, sure! Jake! Jake!

Speaker 1 Wow!

Speaker 1 Jake is a dynasty!

Speaker 1 Incredible!

Speaker 1 Wow, Hank, you were one off! One off! Oh, no! One off! And Jake just got it. Congratulations.
What did you just say? That was my fourth time. Fourth time?

Speaker 1 Yep. Dynasty for sure.

Speaker 8 15's eighth time, but I didn't pick them up.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.

Speaker 2 Also a great number right in Kyrie's face, huh?

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.
Yeah. I was going to say something.
Swate, so we've had

Speaker 1 it four times, Billy? Five? Five. I've had it twice.
Twice. Twice.
Max.

Speaker 2 Damn. Four times, Jake.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's.

Speaker 2 Putting on a fucking show.

Speaker 1 And Hank, how many?

Speaker 1 All yours.

Speaker 4 I'd have to go back and track all yours.

Speaker 10 Jake is hot on my tail. He is.
I need to start getting on the 69 back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. It'd be tough.

Speaker 9 I'm still not convinced you got it five times.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I hit four times. It seems like I had 21 once when I came back from vacation.

Speaker 2 It seems like fuzzy math. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 We'll have to look at the books. Oh,

Speaker 1 wait.

Speaker 1 When we do look at the books and just do an entire audit, can you find out if Hank's ever gotten it? Yeah. Okay.
Let me know. Please let me know.
Text me personally if he has ever gotten it.

Speaker 2 I'm actually starting to get worried now, Big Kat, because Hank's got to get it at some point. No, he doesn't.

Speaker 1 And we don't have to.

Speaker 2 But we don't have enough time for us to get it.

Speaker 1 No, for him to get it twice. TFT.
He doesn't have to get it because he's never never gotten it. He's never going to get it.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.

Speaker 10 Humans are the only apes without a penis bone because our reproduction time is shorter, which is an evolutionary tactic.

Speaker 1 Just PFT is talking about it.

Speaker 1 I don't know what

Speaker 1 to say. I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's another

Speaker 1 day to find you. Shy it away.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll be coming for your love, okay?

Speaker 1 Shy it away,

Speaker 1 I've been coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 1 Needless to say,

Speaker 1 I've observed it's for me somewhere a little way.

Speaker 1 Slowly learning that life is okay.

Speaker 1 Say after me,

Speaker 12 it's the better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 1 Say after me,

Speaker 12 it's the better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 12 Things like you say

Speaker 12 oh, just to play my worries away.

Speaker 12 You're all the things I've got to remember. Be a shy and away.

Speaker 12 Lot of coming for you anyway.

Speaker 12 Be a shy and away.

Speaker 12 Lot be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 12 Come

Speaker 12 drink of me.

Speaker 12 drink on me.

Speaker 12 I'll be your

Speaker 12 drink on me, take

Speaker 12 me

Speaker 12 up,

Speaker 12 drink on me, I'll be

Speaker 12 your

Speaker 12 the

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