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Today is Wednesday, November 2nd, and the fightings are looking fucking good. Said, said, Max.
Said. Oh, Jesus.
Hey, Max just fucking blew out. I love that Max is a producer.
What are we supposed to do? What are we supposed to do? There's more people driving right now. Maybe a warning.
We're going to have to turn that down. We're going to have to turn that down or bleep it because he just – we'll bleep it.
To be be fair Max doesn't have that much experience working with audio levels or recording he just screamed said in the microphone so loud people probably crash their cars but that's how Philly is feeling right now just dong after dong after dong against the Astros up 7-0 right now as we're watching and this actually makes me not want to say the thing I'm about to say, but I'm going to say it anyway. Max, the Phillies are now up 2-1, right? That is correct.
Okay. I just wanted to make – It's the bottom of the seventh, but yeah.
I just wanted to make sure that you could talk in a normal voice there. All right, so they're up 2-1.
Game four is Wednesday night. If the Phillies win game four, would that mean they could clinch in Philadelphia on Thursday night? That is correct.
Okay, so if we get to that point, if the Phillies are up 3-1 going into Thursday night, Max and Jake are going to the game with game time to document it for part of my take. Said.
Said.'t tell me you have no no no i got nothing you motherfucker that would be that would be the best day of my life he's gonna be like i have tickets to the app state game sorry guys you you seem you were like so nervous coming into tonight's game i was you were shook but now it's like you're I think you truly believe that you're going to sweep the rest of the games. Yeah.
Why not? They're undefeated. You know how it gets.
In a seven-game series, it's ups and downs. You get very confident.
You get very low. It's day by day.
I will change my opinion pitch by pitch of whether we're going to win. That's playoff baseball.
There might be a pitcher pitching in the next game who's off-speed pitches you don't see coming a mile away. That might be the thing.
Because McCullers was tipping all of his pitches tonight, and you saw it from the start. Like, Bryce, when he went yard, he told everybody in the Phillies dugout, he's like, this guy's tipping his pitches.
A bunch of stuff went viral online where you could see the high leg kick.

You could see the back leg being straight.

And the Phillies hit all their home runs off sinkers, curves, change-ups, things like that.

It was just going, dog.

It's very smart.

I'm not saying that it's cheating at all.

It's very smart baseball.

Dusty Baker, on the other hand, what the are you doing after maybe after like the fourth home run well as soon as it goes when it's trending on twitter someone in the in the advanced scouting department i don't think anyone in the astros clubhouse is using electronics to monitor computers sitting in the hallway right there ready for you yeah um but yes max you will be going to the game via game time. Well, we got to win the – Yeah, you got to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but we just wanted to let you know because on Thursday, PFT Hank and I are going to the – we're doing some up fronts in Chicago, so we won't be in studio.
So you will be going with Jake documenting all of it, and if the Phillies can somehow win the World Series on Thursday night, we're going to have a drunk Max and Jake from the streets of Philadelphia live on the show. Yeah, we just need Jake to go to make sure Max stays in one piece.
Yeah, just so he can translate what Max is saying. I need a babysitter.
That's fine. We're rooting for you because it would be really incredible if you joined the podcast three months ago and we just added another World Series to this show that isn't the New York Yankees.
Yeah. I would appreciate that.
Yeah, it would be great. A dynasty.
Part of my take becomes a dynasty at that point. Yeah, we would.
We would have, what, four and six? That's a dynasty. That's pretty good.
That is. Four and seven? People say I'm a Philly hater, but I saw it.
When you see the crowd reaction, their reaction to those dongs was like, Max has got to be in there. It's got to be electric.
It's like a different species of people compared to what you see in Houston. Houston fans, yeah, they clap.
They look like they're having a good time. They wear silly little space helmets and look like astronauts but like in philly like they they live for this shit every guy in philly just looks like he's about to get in a fight but then you could just like flash a coors light in front of his face he's like oh shiny object even the old dudes they're like the old dudes in philly could kick my ass yeah no there was that one clip where the guy caught the foul ball and then him and his buddy were just yugging beers and it looked like they had just won the world series yeah it looked like what max was saying after game one when he's like it's better than a super bowl it is i mean there's something about a baseball big play that like there's so much built up nerves going into each pitch that it just you just explode when something well something happened yeah and playoff baseball is also it's you know Football is king we love football but something about playoff baseball and it goes the same kind of for nba and nhl but because the playoffs take so many weeks it just becomes part of your life you know what i mean like every night it's your life and it becomes so like intimate to you the whole team so yeah it's fun it's awesome to watch i don't think there's anything cooler looking in sports than a dong, a massive tater that gets whacked in the middle of the night.
And the ball leaving the yard against the black night sky, that's October. Schwarber's going just dead center, and he just goes to his knee and he just threw his bat.
Like, come on. Of course I fucking wrecked that.
There's something about a Schwarber. They're unlike anything else.
Yeah, because Schwarber's played for all of our teams here. That's the other thing we've all experienced.
The lefty swing. And not the Yankees.
Not the Yankees. They need a guy like Schwarber.
The compact swing, and he just murders baseballs. Also, shout out Joe Girardi for getting fired this year, huh? Does he get a ring? Of course.
He has to. Wait, we should slow down a little bit, Max.
Yeah, yeah. Max, do you want to throw a pizza party? I just realized we got a little ahead of ourselves there.
Max, four hours ago I thought I was dead. You want to throw a pizza party for the team if they win this? No.
Say no. No.
No pizza party? No pizza party. No.
No. Zero.
But yeah, Joe definitely, he's in the parade. But we had to.
He comes to the banner day next year. Yeah.
Listen, we had to tell you tonight about you going to game five potentially because we want, you know, this podcast is a family and the listeners are part of the family. We want them.
If you don't have a rooting interest, if you're not an Astros fan or a Phillies fan, now you have something to root for. Jake Marsh taking Batgirl to Philly and watching Chaos.
Literally taking me on a leash. It'll be like taking an 11-year-old rescue dog that's never been outside to a dog park for the first time.
Yeah, we need to put like a name tag on you with Jake's contact. It's like Jake being a documentarian going to the wild.
Jake's going to see shit. You thought two fingers was bad.
Oh, man. We should actually make Jake go as an astronaut.
No, no, no, We should double go, bro, and have him go as an Astros fan and just watch both just fucking unfold. Max, are you going to climb a light pole? No, don't answer it.
Don't answer it. He's trying to get you into it.
Don't answer it. I also don't think I'm athletically capable.
Yeah, you do. Under the right circumstances, you can bench more than Billy.

If Billy wins a World Series, the adrenaline will carry you right up that pole.

Stop.

All right, okay.

All right, all right.

So that's game three.

That sets the stage.

Like I said, if you're going to come back with a thousand-yard stare,

looking like a Vietnam veteran.

If you're rooting for content, root for the Phillies to win Wednesday night

so that we can get them live reporting on the scene for that game. So NFL trade deadline.
We had like the craziest day in sports. NFL trade deadline was insane.
Bradley Chubb to the Dolphins. Jeff Wilson to the Dolphins.
Calvin Ridley to the Jaguars. TJ Hawkinson to the Vikings, Bears get Chase Claypool, they traded Roquan Smith on Monday.
Chaos. Yeah, all the shit that never happens at the NFL trade deadline happened this year because there's never any movement.
It's always the biggest story that never ends up being a story. And then Schefter tweets out like, well, there were a lot of talks and a lot of deals that almost got done, but nothing did.
But now we can officially say the Miami Dolphins have joined the ranks of the Baltimore Ravens and the San Francisco 49ers. And the Vikings.
And the Vikings, to a certain extent. Getting TJ Hawkins.
Or they got him because Irv Smith is out. Right, but he's good.
But yeah, I'm going to say that those three teams especially are all in right now. Those are the most all-in teams uh i i actually really like what mcdaniel did yeah i like i like getting a court because basically you need somebody that will harass a quarterback if you want to win in the afc i actually was gonna say i bradley chubb is awesome and he's gonna be great for them they sent a first round pick which it look i saw it and it was uh basically the all the picks they got for the trey lance trade uh which trey lance has been injured this year not his fault but he's been injured they got i think it was jalen wattle tyree kill and bradley chubb like through different trades obviously more picks involved but they flipped it for three really good players and then uh i actually think jeff wilson is like the sneaky best move of the day because you have a running back who knows the shanahan system who can now run mike mcdaniel's system yeah like that was that's one of those ones where it just it's under the radar because there are bigger names including a bigger name going to the dolphins but i saw that and i was like fuck that was genius no that's it's a very smart move I just like Chubb because you have to have a guy to get through the AFC that's capable of taking a you know top of the world quarterback and just making him have like an average day yeah and the only way really that you can do that is by having somebody that'll hit him up a few times so what do you what do you think Jake Dolphins all in how you feeling I love it I, I think I said this to you before we recorded, but I saw what the Rams did last year, and teams are like, you have to go all in.
Like, picks are picks. Sure, you don't know if picks will pan out, but it's proven that if you go all in, like, it's worked.
Yeah, sometimes you can go all in and drown, though. Yeah.
That's been done before. Well, it's a weird situation for a rookie head coach to be at this place already where he's like, okay, my nuts are on the table.
We're going to win this year. I mean, I think it speaks also to, besides the Chiefs and the Bills who are obviously in the AFC and the Eagles, there's just a bunch of teams at that same level.
You know what I mean? That are at that two games above 500 or 500, and everyone's trying to jockey, and it's like, this could be win level you know what i mean that are at that two games above 500 or 500 and everyone's trying to jockey and it's like this this could be when you know you never know what happens in the playoffs this could be winnable like we could we could take a shot here and i know the bills have looked like the clear favorites above everyone else but fuck get in the playoffs roll the dice and the yeah the ravens too um brandon cooks really wanted to get traded. He really wanted to get traded.
He was liking tweets being like, yo, the Cowboys need a second receiver. Yeah.
And nothing happened. The Cowboys didn't really do anything either, did they? No.
That's kind of surprising. They're ready to roll.
Yeah. So it was exciting.
You don't get to see trade deadlines like this. The Bills got a running back? Yeah.
Who'd they get? Naheem Hines. Yep.
That's and it also was it should be said the broncos like imagine being russ wilson like they basically were like fuck this we're we suck yeah you suck they're like russell not only not only are we not going to make the playoffs but also your contract is so bad for us that we have to start thinking about the future yeah we have to we have such regret on everything that took place that we need to get picks back as fast as possible. Yeah.
And so they've started the process of getting picks back. It's so interesting in the NFL, once you get players, if you draft a player that you're like, this guy might be a stud, you already have to start planning about, okay, when am I going to trade this guy away for more picks? Yeah, or pay him a ton of money.
And then if you draft enough studs, then you're like, well, I'm going to have to trade one of these. That's what the Broncos are doing right now because they have some good young players, and they're doing the mental math where they're like, I need to get rid of one of these guys because we're going to have a log jam.
We have two wide receivers that we're going to have to end up paying in a little bit. We've got a quarterback that's taking all of our money, and then we've got a linebacker.
Pat Sertan. Yeah, we've got a quarterback, then we've got a great linebacker that's going to have to go eventually.
So one of these guys has to not be here anymore. Yeah, and then I do.
Obviously, the Bears are the team that made a bunch of moves but are not all in, and I loved everything they did because Roquan Smith was not going to re-sign with

the Bears.

It fell apart last summer.

The Bears would have been stupid to franchise tag an off-ball linebacker.

You have to be able to rush the quarterback if you're going to get premier top dollar

and they're like, hey, as good as Roquan is and I love watching him play, he's not

going to be here so let's get something for him.

They trade him for a two and a five and then today they go and get Chase

Thank you. And they're like, hey, as good as Roquan is, and I love watching him play, he's not going to be here, so let's get something for him.
They trade him for a two and a five. And then today they go and get Chase Claypool.
And I know people say they overpaid a little bit because it was the Bears' second round, not the Ravens' second round pick. But it's the argument that everyone made in the offseason that the Bears were ruining Justin Fields by not getting him anyone.
You can't then complain that they went and got someone who is controlled for another year very very cheap big tall fast everything like you need that for Justin Fields and I got my guy I'm feeling confident about having my guy I have I have a guy he is the guy counterpoint you got fleece officially no he's officially the guy fleeced fleeced build around justin fields everything else doesn't matter that's it's just so fun to tell people they got fleeced fleeced fleeced it's awesome like i more than anything i love the people that just reply to an adam schefter tweet about a trade just fleeced immediately yeah and they don't clarify who got fleeced but somebody don't even say that somebody got fleeced they don't they don't even release the picks they're like fleeced yeah either you're doing the fleecing or you're getting fleeced yeah but i'm yeah i i as much ryan poles has an a plus rating for me approval rating for me because he's done everything to get the bears to a position where they will have full flexibility and now they're starting to be like hey he like he went into this offseason or he went into this season being like i didn't draft justin fields i have to i have to see it like i'm not going to just start going and grabbing wide receivers and hoping that he's good and i really do think this last month like the way he's played he's seen enough flashes with guys that are like darnell mooney's maybe a three on on a good team he's seen enough flashes like you know what let's start let's start the process of rebuilding this roster and helping you out what are the Steelers thinking though like at the other end of it if you have a young quarterback you'd like to keep your weapons around him that you have I think ideally George Pickens probably you know drafting him he looks like he could be very very good they already have Deontay Johnson I also that's that's the other part of this trade I love. What team drafts better than anyone? It's Pittsburgh Steelers wide receivers.
Yeah, and also trade for one. Also, if this whole Justin Fields thing doesn't pan out, Chase Claypool's got a hell of a left arm on him.
Justin Fields is going to pan out. That was a great two-yard touchdown pass that he threw on Sunday.
I should actually clarify. Justin Fields might not pan out because the Bears might ruin him, but he is the guy.
Also, it's just cool to have a

Canadian on your feet sometimes. You're laughing at

me. I love your enthusiasm.

I can tell you've come to

the conclusion today. I'm all in.

My heart is all in.

Everything is all in. There's no way

this is going to backfire. There's no

way this is going to end in tragic, tragic

heartbreak for me.

I want to say that I felt this way about Mitch, but I never felt this way about Mitch. I didn't feel this way about Cutler either.
And I believe, I told myself, yeah. Yeah, I tried to tell myself.
I mean, that's just false. I felt this way about Kyle Orton.
He's the guy. He's the guy.
He's a guy. No, he's the guy.
You guys are going to be jealous that I found a guy. I understand.
No, I'm not jealous. I'm not jealous.
No, it's fine. He's a guy.
I have a guy. You have a guy.
I have a guy. Yeah.
And so does Max. Yeah.
I hope you guys are happy. Oh, I'm very happy in my relationship with my guy.
I hope you are. Me and my guy are going to live forever.
We're going to be laughing about this in 20 years sitting on the front porch holding each other in our arms. In regirement.
Yeah, in regirement. Just fucking rings all over the place.
It's going to be great. Don't tell us you got a guy.
Billy. Wait, which guy are you talking about? Billy, don't.
No, no, no. Billy, you're Pauly.
You know, sometimes you got a guy-ism, but it just needs a little fixing.

Billy's into- Everything's fixable.

Did you hear what-

Billy, you and your Mormon guy are into polygymy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you hear what Orlovsky said about Zach Wilson today?

Yeah, he's got to stop fudging.

No, he said, grow the fudge up.

Grow the fudge up.

Actually, Dan, why don't you grow the fudge up?

I just love that he said that. I don't like that language on my TV.
I can't swear on TV. Let me use fudge up.
Grow the fudge up. Actually, Dan, why don't you grow the fudge up? I just love that he said that.

I don't like that language on my TV.

I can't swear on TV.

Let me use fudge.

But, yeah, it was a crazy day.

And then, so that was NFL.

So we had, like, NFL trade deadline, a World Series game.

Maction came back.

All these things.

This is our version of that 30 for 30 where they had the World Cup, the New York Rangers playing, the Knicks playing, OJ Simpson trial. That all happened in the span of about 30 minutes.
That was OJ Simpson on the run. Oh, it was on the run.
That was the Bronco. That was the Bronco chase.
And the Stanley Cup. On top of all of it, the Nets fire.
Some were calling him Steve Trash, Steve Nash. and then like two hours later from the clouds, I think Shams had it first, Ime Udoka is going to be the next Nets head coach.
It happened less than two hours. It happened almost immediately.
So there was the initial report that Steve Nash was being fired, and then the report came out clarifying that saying, actually, he's not fired. It was mutual.

Yeah.

Kendrick Perkins had an unbelievable tweet about it.

Did you see that?

No, I just thought it was very nice that it was mutual.

Yeah.

Kendrick Perkins, which I didn't know.

I didn't know he had had this in him because he's he's an ESPN guy.

So I thought they weren't allowed to.

No, Perkins say whatever he wants.

Yeah, he could say whatever the fuck he wants.

He said, mutual decision.

What the fuck is that?

Nets, you're fired. Steve Nash.
I agree. Yeah.
Carry the hell on. Great tweet.
It really is like the mutual decision. They both agreed that he sucked at his job and should be fired.
I do like the Nets. What they've done is they're like, it's gotten so crazy and it is such a shit show here.
Let's add the one coach that is supposedly toxic and has been suspended for an unprecedented year suspension from the Celtics, and we still don't really know what he did. Let's bring him in.
I kind of respect being like, the circus is so crazy. Let's just make it crazy.
The craziest part of all this, I think, is that this conversation will be going on behind the scenes for a while oh yeah they didn't just decide to hire emay 30 minutes after they fired steve nash and i don't know like i don't know what happened in boston but doesn't seem like emay would be the kind of guy that would go around another man's back and what did happen like that hank i don't Because he certainly did. It looked like he did it with Steve Nash

because he was talking about another man's job.

He was taking interviews with the Nets before Steve Nash was fired.

Now, the Celtics, they, for whatever reason, didn't fire him.

They kept him around after suspending him,

and they also let him interview and go coach a different team.

For free.

For free.

No picks or anything. He's just walking out the door walking to the nets hank crazy story yeah not sure how to feel i i think you got to feel bad because this is what he won coach of the year last year right he was a great coach he led them to the championship it's hard to i just don't get how they got nothing out of it and why they just let him walk there it sounds like they're psyched to have him not be their problem anymore yeah and also not be fucking their wives anymore it would have been a real problem i think for them to try to integrate himself back into the into the locker room and into the team and so now they're like thank god the nets the Nets solved this problem for us.
We don't have to worry about that. And he's a very good coach because, I mean, that's stating the obvious because he went to the finals last year.
But I think there's a revisionist history out there with where the Celtics ended up and where they started this year. The Celtics, remember, in like December last year were dead.
They were terrible. And people were giving up on – remember all the talks about how you had to trade jason tatum or jalen brown and email doka just got them back together and got them to the fucking finals yeah no it's it's it's hard i mean he was he was an unbelievable coach he he's an ultimate i mean that's the thing it's hard to really say because you don't know exactly what happened behind the scenes i don't think it had anything to do with the players and he was a great coach for them he got him fired up and like he with all the star power he like kept them together and kind of like alpha them and was like just just suck it up and play as a team i don't know that this new coach is going to be able to do that and and and he's probably gonna be good for the nets and that's that's a problem like within the division yeah yeah what if the nets get figured see the thing is though i think you don't have to be that worried because i think the nets are so dysfunctional right now balls beat them tonight bowls are back but yeah i think it's it's crazy that when this happened i thought to myself there's unlocks him whoa right-handed it's not a bad idea uh i think yeah when this story broke i was like there's not we got no one wants to coach this team no one in their right you'd either have to be insane or unemployed to take the Nets job and they went with option B which was Eme because there's so much shit going on in Brooklyn right now it's probably the most thankless job in the world you've got head cases all over the place although if you've got a fan base that's pissed off at uh two out of the three superstars that you're supposed to have on your team but if you can get them to even respectable at this point with how bad they've been playing and how bad they went out last year like it is a thankless job but if they got let's say the three seed i think you'd be like that was an incredible like he's the best coach of all time three seeds not bad they are bad right now but it's a complete dumpster fire it is like there's a story every day i mean ben simmons is he he's back to being hurt i think he didn't play tonight or last night they almost lost to the pacers who are tanking.
Now it's E-Main. I can see it in your eyes, Hank.
I don't like it. I'm not a fan.
You're afraid of. I'm afraid.
Very well could happen. He could go in there and make them awesome.
And I'm not even worried about the Nets as much as I'm – it's more just like what if something – the Celtics went to the championship last year. If there's a regression and it's like, you know, it comes back to you wish you had a coach like Emei, that would suck.
Yeah, what about if you run into him in the playoffs? That would be kind of crazy. I know.
That Celtics is Sunday, December 4th. We don't even know when he's going to get to coach.
More shit has to come out, though. He's going to have to do press.
He's going to have to do interviews. They haven't said anything publicly.
You just have Kyrie do the interview for him and be like, well, I'm a basketball coach. Why are you asking me about fucking someone's wife? It's interesting because if Eme does have to do that sort of thing, the people that are keeping it quiet are the same people that would be bringing Eme back to the Celtics now that he's gone behind their backs directly and went to a rival.
the people that are keeping it quiet are the same people that would be bringing Emei back to the Celtics. Now that he's gone behind their backs directly and went to a rival,

the people that were keeping all the secrets have really no need to keep his secrets anymore

unless it involves them directly.

Yeah.

You see what I'm saying?

Mm-hmm.

I mean, it would be like if Belichick fucked Robert Kraft's new wife and then got suspended and then next year was like, I'm coaching the Jets now.

Yeah, I don't think that has anything to do with this story.

But if that happened, that would be crazy.

I don't think they're related.

What do you mean?

I just don't get the, you know.

Yeah, that's a sports coach.

What are you talking about?

I don't know what happened with E-Mail. Oh, okay, you're playing that game.
Okay, yeah, yeah. I guess I don't know either.
I think this is going to get a whole lot more interesting. Same.
That's what I think. Once the details come out, they come out.
But, yeah, clearly the Celtics, that's what is crazy to me. Isn't your new coach pretty good, though? Yeah, he is good, but he's unknown.
Emei obviously won coach of the year and led them to the championship. All right, I'm going to make you feel better, Hank.
I don't think you have to worry about the Nets. And I know that it sucks that Emei's gone because he is a very good coach, but the Nets are not.
I actually do not think they're fixable. I really don't.
I hope not. I tend to agree, except I think that if you have Kevin Durant on your team, you can maybe be fixed.
But he doesn't want to be there to be there either yeah but if you but he didn't like Steve Nash and he loves Emei yeah but he picked Steve Nash but yeah but you know wishy-washy I also I think that that you can work around Ben Simmons and Kyrie being weirdos because at the end of the day you've proven that you can play without them and not be god awful all the time so yeah. So, yeah, it could work with Kevin Durant.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's going to be a crazy day. Crazy day.
Max said. Do it.
Do it. Said.
Yeah, there we go. Said.
Okay, we're going to get to the rest of the show. We talk Monday Night Football, Hot Seat, Cool Throne, Michael Irael irvin chase daniel guys on i feel like we've been in the studio 17 times today because we actually recorded if there's a weird edit did it make sense max when you listen back if there's a weird edit we did the uh roquan smith talk after the monday football talk and then when everything got traded today we're just, fuck it.
Let's just do it all at once. So, yeah.
It's fine. It's fine.
We've just been in front of these. I think we did every segment at a different time.
Yeah, we did in front of these microphones for the entire day. This has been a 12-hour podcast that we've done today.
You know what? And that's hand up on me a little bit because I just forgot that today was the trade deadline until, like, three trades happened. And I was like, wait, what's up today? Yeah, but also we did, spoiler alert, we did two separate lottery machine things.
Yeah. And will Hank get it? Because I...
One of them was not for... No, no.
I know that. I'm just saying...
He gets an extra. What's crazy is we did the first lotto machine thing so long ago, I forget if Hank got it or not.
Did you get it? Tune in to right tune in to find out okay uh we're gonna kick it back to ourselves what another no no we're not we're we're i i can sense the way this is going we're gonna just and i i want to billy but i really don't want him to know billy just wanted you to say yes so he could say 69 and call it immediately no uh okay when your home system or appliance breaks down american home shield will help fix or replace the covered item no matter its age visit ahs.com slash listen for 20 off any plan cahs.com slash contracts for coverage details limitations and exclusions okay back to ourselves okay monday night football the browns are back and the bengals are the bengals in trouble let Let's start there The Bengals are back to losing against the Browns Yeah Joe Burrow just is owned by the Browns 0-4 Certain teams just own certain matchups for whatever reason And this is definitely one of them Obviously it has a lot to do with Jamar Chase not being there Jamar Chase makes a little bit of a difference Because he's a guy that Joe Burrow, if the pass rush is coming after him, just like give the ball to Jamar and let him run away. That's kind of the game plan.
Instead of doing like a real hot route setup, it's just like get the ball to Jamar before Miles Garrett gets to me and we can win this game. Yeah, I was going to say Jamar Chase, I mean, he's one of the best receivers in the NFL, so not having him is a huge loss.
But the Bengals' offensive line looked like it regressed on Monday, which is the one thing that if you're a Bengals fan, you just have that in the back of your head at all times. Like, hey, are we going to be able to block anyone today? Oh, we can't.
This sucks. I was looking at it because the Bengals are now 0-3 in the division.

They're 4-4 overall.

I'm not really nervous about them because I still think that they're a talented team and I trust Joe Burrow.

But it's like as you get later in the season,

you can't keep having games like you had on Monday night where they looked terrible.

They looked really, really bad.

And the Browns have to be the most maddening team to root for this, obviously forever, you know, because they suck. But this specific year, because when they look good, they look like they could beat literally anyone, but they've looked so bad for that four game losing streak or whatever it was, five game losing streak that it's got to drive you nuts.
Because if you are a Browns fan and you're thinking, oh, Deshaun Watson is coming back in November, late November, you just keep looking at that Jets loss. You keep looking at that Chargers loss.
Like, all these games that if they flip and you were treading water a little bit more, you'd feel so much more confident. And they have some tough games coming up.
Yeah, they've got all the ingredients to be a good team too, which be very frustrating right because it might like if you're a browns fan it seems very simple to be like kevin run the fucking football like let's not overthink this we've got nick chubb kareem hunt is a great backup and durnis johnson is a great backup backup yes back too so and you've got maybe the best offensive or one of the best lines, and the best offensive line coach in football. It's just run the fucking ball.
It's not even run the damn ball for them. It's just like, dude, pull your head out of your ass and just run the ball.
Or throw it to Amari Cooper, who he's back. He's back, fifth round pick.
Yeah, that was fun watching him just streak down the sideline and be like, oh yeah, Amari Cooper. Yeah, I was was ready to say Amari Cooper's washed.
No, he's just in Cleveland, which is kind of the same thing sometimes. But just run the ball.
Stefanski, if he just runs the ball, you're going to be able to tread water. It's maddening if you're a Browns fan because it's so easy.
We talked about the ingredients. If you go to Taco Bell, they just put the seven ingredients in whatever format that they want, and it always works out well.
That's how it should be for Kevin Stefanski. You should never introduce something else to this offense.
Like putting Jacoby Brissett sometimes, he's actually the perfect vehicle for this offense because he should just hand the ball off and occasionally do play action. But then when you're like, all right, Jacoby, maybe let's air it out a little bit.
Let's see what you can do, Jacoby. It's like, no, just stick to what works, and that's giving the ball to Nick Chubb and getting the fuck out of the way.
I love Jacoby Brissett when he scrambles as well because he looks like he's in slow motion, even though it's regular speed. There's something about quarterbacks like that who when they start to run, and he scored a touchdown, so he actually know was able to do it but when they start to run and you're like oh wait they're they're not getting faster this is this is top gear they're already in top gear and everyone is descending on them but he's like deceptively slow sometimes where it's like you keep waiting for him to hit that next gear and so the fact that he never gets up there it's also kind of hard to yeah no he yeah he has deceptive speed he's slower than he looks yes and and and he and as it's happening it's just something about it where i mean brady has done it a couple times this year where he's like my team sucks i have to run and it's what it's essentially watching a car crash in slow motion because they're moving at such a slow speed and everyone else is moving so fast and you're like can they even slide before everyone gets there right like are they even fast enough to just go down before everyone descends on nick foals was like that too it's like he takes off and you keep you're like okay run it's great he's not gonna run it's like no wait he's not going faster oh wait no nope there is no extra gear like he's guys are like diving in front of him tackling where they think he.
Yeah, they're trying to hit the treadmill to go up a little bit higher, and it just won't go, and you're just like, okay, this is going to be a problem. So, yeah, the AFC is nuts in that I think both these teams are still – they're both very much able to get to the playoffs.
The Browns may be a little less because they play the Dolphins the dolphins and bills next but it's crazy to look at the afc and realize there's two really good teams and everyone else kind of sort of has a shot yeah like like there is no i actually think the browns do have an outside shot so because the ravens are going to win this division the browns are not they're by no means out of it and when you you have Miles Garrett playing like Miles Garrett, it might be a Halloween thing. Miles Garrett just is he's a Halloween guy.
That guy loves Halloween. You know, there are like a lot of people that say, oh, I go all out at Christmas.
Christmas is my thing. You don't see that that much for Halloween and a younger guy.
But Miles, there's something about the holiday that like he he loves getting spooky. Yeah who makes a specific holiday their personality always kind of creeps me out you pick any holiday yeah and they're just like oh i'm just so huge on this holiday linda tripp was like that if you saw the uh the show on fx the lady that that recorded monica luisia phone calls she just like lives her entire year for christmas yeah for her christmas she has.
And they just become, yeah, that's their personality is like, yeah, I go hard Halloween. Like Billy with St.
Patrick's Day. Right, exactly.
A couple other things from Monday Night Football. One, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman should wear those yellow jackets every single game.
They look awesome. I know Joe was like, oh, I look so old and funny.
No, Joe, you look good in that. When you try to look hip and cool, that's when it falls flat.
Joe Buck has a face that's meant for retro fashion. Yes.
It works, and Troy works in that too. So yeah, just wear the yellow jackets all the time.
And then Joe Burrow trying to chase down his interception when he realized that Miles Garrett was running after him and about to block him. And then Joe turning around and just running away from miles Garrett.
Smart move. Extremely relatable business decision.
Yes. And I, uh, they should always have whatever the money I football is closest to Halloween should always be in Cleveland because the crowd was hilarious.
The, the sad clown to start the whole broadcast that kind of creeped everyone out. Yeah.
I don't know. I just feel like Cleveland, you know, because the colors, they're just the perfect spot for a Halloween game.
That should be a tradition. Very spooky.
Yeah. It should be the same as the Lions and the Cowboys on Thanksgiving.
Yeah. Cleveland should always get the Halloween game.
And I liked it against the Bengals, too. It was just orange and black everywhere.
Yeah. It was very festive.
And for a while, it was zero to zero. on the on the score bug at the bottom the bangles b made it read out boo yeah it's perfect very scary like joe burrow had the boo shirt coming in um all right college football there's not a lot to talk about except we talked about the michigan michigan state thing we have the biggest weekend it it's not uh like top to bottom it doesn't have you know whatever it was a few weeks ago where seven ranked first ranked but georgia tennessee and lsu alabama is going to figure out a lot of the questions of like what the rest of the season is going to look my pants just got tighter just just hearing you describe the upcoming college football saturday it's such a good college football saturday that so we're going to chicago on thursday we're doing an thing there.
I'm going to stick around and check out Chicago a little bit, get the vibe of the city. Only been there a few times.
I changed my flight back on Saturday to make absolutely sure that I would not miss a second of Georgia-Tennessee. That's what kind of weekend it's going to be.
It's actually nice that the first slate isn't that great, so you can really build yourself up for Georgia, Tennessee, and LSU. That's what I'm thinking.
There are certain games where I could compromise and I'd say, you know what, I'll watch it on the plane. Or I can catch this the second half at the airport before my flight takes off.
No, no, I want to be in my comfortable environment set up. This is like the college football game of the year for me, and I've got a take that I've been halfway deploying, but I'm ready to go full nuke on it.
So just tell me what you think about Tennessee. I think that this Tennessee team is extremely close, if not almost identical, to the LSU team in 2019 so far.
Yeah, so I've seen a lot of people make the comparison between the two um I'd still think the LSU team was far more talented well it's so Tennessee obviously has a long way to go but Tennessee's very good in terms of scoring average and all that they're averaging like half a point more per game yeah yeah no I've seen a lot of people make that connection and be like hey look the this Tennessee team they're starting to get in their defense is getting better. I just still think when you talk about the actual talent on the LSU, having all those wide receivers was insane.
And that LSU defense did end up being a lot better than it was. And, again, Tennessee's gotten better.
We'll see. I mean, this is fun because they get to prove it against Georgia.
I know. Like, this take could blow up in my face.
And obviously, I'm saying at this point in the season, they're comparing favorably. And I think the comparisons are there for Hendon Hooker and Joe Burrow, too.
Both super old guys that stuck around. You remember, like, when we first met Joe when he was a junior at LSU? Yeah.
He wasn't, like, setting the world on fire at that point. No, we saw them score zero points against Bama.ama yeah Hendon kind of plays the same type of ball where he like especially when he runs he loves to run at people yeah he loves running people over not like super super fast but fast enough and I don't know I just I get the I get similar vibes from those teams yeah I just again I would just lean to LSU was just so fucking out of this world yeah i mean they were probably the best college football team of all time yeah but i'm saying and the guys who went in the draft like that next year like the fact that they had justin jefferson and jamar chase on the same team like those are the those are the two are they the two best receivers in the nfl right now i don't know i mean we all uh tyreek but, they're two of the top four, five.
That's pretty stupid. And, actually, the Bama team was out of this world, too, the year before or the year after.
I mean, Hyatt's pretty good, though. Yeah, no, he is.
He's pretty good. He's not like Jamar Chase.
Right. There's a difference.
He's pretty good. I did see – this is going to be my cool throne actually, was just college football fans being mad about rankings because there's this dude that ranked Alabama ahead of Tennessee in his poll because the deep numbers are telling him through computers that Alabama is a better team than Tennessee.
Now some people would say, well, they played. Actually, those two teams played each other and Tennessee won.
Yeah. But not this guy.
I love this guy's commitment to just being like we should play the games just in a simulation right yeah i mean yeah why why even why even have games let's just get the computers out yeah roll the computers out so that means you're you think tennessee's gonna beat georgia i'm not evolved for life like you but i am evolved for now yeah i mean i love them i think think that they will. I like them to cover.
Georgia is just, they always, this iteration of Georgia just scares the ever-living shit out of me in any big game. They've been kind of human recently.
They were for a stretch, but they've come back to being Georgia. So they had that stretch.
I don't know. They didn't play great against Florida.
The third quarter. They left Florida right back in that game.
It was never a doubt, though. Florida looked like a better team than them in the third quarter.
I mean, Tennessee played Florida at Tennessee, and that was a closer margin. If we're going to play that game, that was a closer game than Florida-Georgia.
I'm just saying Georgia's beatable. Yeah.
They're not juggernauts. We oftentimes will compare them to the team that won the national championship, and that's a very high bar to hit.
So they might be still very, very, very, very good. And they did have – I want to say they played – so I know the Missouri game was the game where it was like, whoa, what's wrong with Georgia here? But then they had a stretch after that where they beat the shit out of a few teams it was like okay Georgia's like they beat the ever living shit out of Auburn I know that everyone does but you still should get credit for absolutely smushing the opponents that suck they beat the ever living shit out of Vanderbilt again that's a terrible, but that was more like Georgia last year.
Georgia definitely rocks. Georgia is very, very good, and their two tight ends are just pretty much unstoppable.
You can't shut down those two guys. It's just a matter of if their defense plays up to how good they can play, and again, I'm thinking back to week one against Oregon, then nobody in college football can beat them.
Yeah, it's going to be a great game. But Tennessee's offense is good enough, and they play at a fast enough tempo.
And this is why I don't get the hypo to the NFL stuff. In the first place, he's a dumbass if he even thinks about leaving to go to the NFL.
I hope he's just using it to get a bigger contract at Tennessee. But just college football coaches, memo to you guys, don't be a shithead.
It doesn't work when you go to the NFL. Right.
I think at this point I'm rooting for just Tennessee versus Ohio State in the national championship game. I think that over-under would be like 85.
That would be awesome. It would be incredible.
You know how you talk about having different colors in college football playoff? Yeah. The Tennessee orange in the college football playoff is awesome.
It needs to get in. That's exactly what I need.
It needs to get in. So, yeah.
And then LSU, that game, the fact that they're 13-point underdogs to Bama at home, that's the only reason I think I'm going to have to take Bama is because I love LSU so much. I know that probably is the dumbest sentence ever said, but gamblers will understand what I'm saying.
When you see a line and you're like, that makes no sense. Like, take the points all day.
That's a pretty good indication that you're very wrong. It's actually similar to the Kentucky-Tennessee game, where I was like, Kentucky will keep this close.
This is way too many points. Nope, couldn's your couldn't be more wrong under the lights.

Yeah.

A bunch of a bunch of really drunk Cajun people.

Bama fans.

We have one here.

Shout out Travis for the boys.

He calls LSU Bryant Denny West because I didn't realize this, but they haven't won.

LSU hasn't beaten Alabama at LSU since 2010.

Oh, that's crazy.

Yeah.

They've beaten Alabama more in Bryant-Denny

than they have at Baton Rouge.

That's pretty – I did not realize that.

Yeah, so I was like, oh, okay, Bryant-Denny West.

That's always such a mean thing to say.

Yeah.

I mean, I say it sometimes with, like, the Brewers.

I'd be like, Wrigley North.

We own you.

Yeah, right.

It is kind of mean and just being like, we'll have more fans.

They won't have more fans.

We have some breaking news.

Oh, OK.

In the NFL.

Breaking moves.

The Minnesota Vikings have just acquired TJ Hawkinson.

Tight end.

University of Iowa by way of the Detroit Lions.

So I guess are the Vikings in win now mode?

Win now mode.

They are.

I think the Vikings are all in.

They're in full win now mode.

Breaking news.

This is the worst trade involving TJ since the Louisiana Purchase.

Bam.

Billy loves that one.

Nailed it.

That's how you know you fucking nailed a joke when Billy's the only one that laughed.

I laughed. Yeah, you did.
Thank you. I got you.
I think he's like the least talked about one lost team. Well, because they're fraught.
Big Cat just talked the shit out of him. Yeah, Big Cat.
You're really mean. BFT disrespected him way more on Sunday.
I was trying to be nice to him. And he talked me back into disrespecting.
Now I'm going to. He pulled me back on to the disrespect boat.
Yeah, listen. I was falling off the boat.
Sometimes I have to realize when I'm all in on a take, and I might be wrong about it, but fucking I'm not going back. I've been on this take.
They're not winning the Super Bowl, so we will be right. I've been on this take for six years, okay? Yeah, we will be right.
I'm very consistent. I'm wishy-washy about a lot of things, but my take on Kirk Cousins has not wavered, and it never will.
We will be right. We might have to deal with them winning a playoff game, even two playoff games, but we will be right.
That's fine. God.
I'm the only one who's hyped the Vikings on this show about three weeks ago. Congrats.
That's a nose ball. Congrats.
That's a nose ball. What happened three weeks ago? I was like, I think the Vikings are for real.
But I've also been talking to a lot of Vikings. You nailed that one.
Damn, you crushed it. Oh, TCU.
I know TCU fans. I've been getting some tweets being like, you guys never talk about TCU.
Well, guess what? We're not going to talk about TCU. But we're going to have your coach on Friday, Sonny Dykes.
So I feel like that's more than enough TCU talk. So there you go.
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Henry. My hot seat is Thanksgiving.
Oh. Okay.
Why? Rye Carey came out today. Oh, congratulations.
Posted a video. No, come on, PFT.
You put a pretty big pause there. She posted a video saying it's time With all I want for Christmas is you So she's just over Overriding Thanksgiving and she's on to Christmas She's step overing You can't do that I mean she probably needs the money Where she's like let's start hitting those Spotify streams now I don't know if she needs the money But I think she's just It's It's a little bit early.
I'm a big Thanksgiving guy. Yeah.
Thanksgiving's the best holiday. It's literally football and food.
Yeah, so it's not time. Yeah.
No, it's not. It's definitely not time.
Mariah is... She must have set like a...
She scheduled her tweet for the first... Yeah, Halloween ended, and then she scheduled a tweet for the first of December, and it accidentally got scheduled for the first of November.
November. That's complete bullshit.
When you do go to Costco, I've noticed that they do put out their Christmas decorations in August now. Really? It's weird, yeah.
That is weird. Let's not rush it.
Let's not rush it. Thanksgiving, we still got a lot of great football, rivalries.
Matching. Matching.
Come on, let's not do this. It's crazy.
We have all December. What are you laughing about, Billy? We should just have Eminem just keeping Mariah Carey away until Christmas season.
Nice. Eminem? Just maybe send out a diss track.
I don't know. That's not a bad idea.
I haven't heard an Eminem song in a while. He's been out of the news recently.
Get him back. I like that.
All right, what's your cool throw? I don't know if this is a hot seat or cool throw, but Sony said they sold 25 million PlayStation 5s. That's a lot.
That's way too hard. Where are they? Yeah, wait, what? It's hard to get them.
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I know.
I know. How's that going? Fine.
I got both the people that won PlayStation 5s. Really? You had to be invited to a group on Amazon.
Oh, I thought that's crazy. Yeah.
Nuts. 25 mil.
Then my cool throw are the Swifties. She announced today that she's doing a tour.
Going on tour. Stadium tour.
Yeah. And she's in the running for the 1 millionth PFT follower.
Oh, nice. Big day for the Swifties.
Hank, that's a cool shirt. Yes, this is the 999 Club shirt.
Oh, nice. If you're in the 999 Club, you should buy one.
It's actually exclusive, so only if you're in the 999 Club, you can purchase it. And we're only selling 999 of them right now.
Can I have one? Get yours. Yeah.
I mean, I'm in the club. Yeah, absolutely.
All right. Wholesale store.
Wholesale is going to get one. It's Taylor Swift, Elon, and then I need a third person.
Cardi B. Cardi B? That's a good one.
To be the million follower? She's active on Twitter. Yeah, I feel like she would be the front runner just by how active she is.
Okay, those are the three. Okay.
So I'm staying locked at 999,900 until I get Taylor Swift. 999.
Yeah, but it's tough because it ebbs and flows. So if I put out a tweet that's mid, I drop like 25 followers, got to let 25 people in the door.
Russillo just got back in. Nice.
Congrats to him. Yeah.
No, he wanted to be the millionth. That's why he said he unfollowed.
Oh. Because to him yeah no he wanted to be the millionth that's that's why he said he unfollowed oh because he was like i wanted to be your million it's like come on ryan block them i actually should yeah uh okay your hot seat cultural so my hot seat it was going to be uh it's going to be us because um a lot of people dressed up as us for halloween this year which is always very surreal to see it's like a pinch yourself moment and it's it's pretty cool most of the time um but then i just realized that people are just putting pillows inside their shirts to be big cat and then their girlfriend is just being me yeah i mean that's how it's been forever yeah it's a great couple's costume just once i'd like to be the guy yeah just once yeah it's probably never gonna happen.
Shout out that one group that did me, PFT, Billy, and Hank, and that was like, it was Billy. Dude, the guy had no laces in his boots.
He had a camo backpack. He had the same glasses.
He looked like a douchebag. It was perfect.
He was you. He was averse to hot sauce.
Yeah, it might have actually been you.

I could hear him complaining in the picture.

It was like a great.

Are we done with the stupid picture yet?

It was, yeah.

No, it is always surreal when we see people do that.

Wait, wait.

Let's do TikTok before.

And then my cool throne was going to be college football fans being mad about rankings.

But I'm going to change it.

I'm going to say my cool throne is Michael Irvin because I really liked the interview.

Yes.

I loved having him in studio.

He's fucking just energy. Yeah.
Oh yeah. Energy personified.
He just goes on his sermons. I think people really like him.
And I was doing some, uh, some background on Michael after he came in here actually, because I was like, you know, I, I remember there was a controversy around him and he alluded to it when he was on ESPN, when he lost his job on ESPN like 20 years ago. They found a weed pipe in his car.
I thought it was a... No, it was a weed pipe.
20 years ago, weed was very dangerous. I swear to God, in the police thing, it said, baggies with marijuana residue on him.
And he got fired from ESPN. And people were like like i don't know if we can hire michael irvin just because he was because he had a fucking a weed yeah but see what you're doing is you're judging it by today's standards weed was like the number one killer of all drugs 20 years ago that's true it was way so dangerous weed was way way stronger back in 2003 like kids these days with they've got like your 50 thc like hybrid shit that you get like try try puffing on that afghan from back in 2002 get back to me scary stuff i'm just happy we survived lost a lot of good men smoking weed back in the day um all right my hot seat is billy sam ellinger is a coach killer so the offensive coordinator for the colts has been relieved of his duty i think that's the first time an offensive coordinator ever has been relieved of his duty like four days after the first start of a quarterback.

Coach Killer.

Well, maybe it's because he hasn't utilized him correctly.

Maybe people like, oh.

I actually think, here's what you go with, Billy. He's fired because Sam Ellinger looks so good.
Yeah. Why did you wait this long to put him in as a starter quarterback? Bad talent evaluation.
Yeah, and someone else can definitely use him better. The real answer is Frank Reich is...
The walls are closing in on him because he's had the vote of confidence and the firing of the OC. It's like the most sure sign a coach is getting fired.
Yeah, there was a tweet. So Jim Ursa tweeted about their offensive coordinator being fired.
And then at the very end of it, I'm just going to read out loud. He goes, this morning we relieved Marcus Brody of his duties as offensive coordinator.
I wish this good man all the best. And then hit him with the thumbs up emoji.
Oh, nice. You're fired, but thumbs-up.
There's a thumbs-up for the road. Yeah.
I like that. I like that.
All right, and then my cool throne is the Lakers. I don't know how we missed this, but last week there was a story that came out.
Russell Westbrook bought the house across the street from LeBron James, so the Lakers are back. Oh, that's very cool.
Yeah, that's great team chemistry. So...
I just love the idea of LeBron looking out his window and Russ is just bricking shots in the driveway across the street and being like, fuck, he wants to carpool today. So the one rule that I gave to the realtor that's helping me look for a place in Chicago is, I don't want to live on the same street as big cat.
We spend enough time working together.

And if we're in the same neighborhood, it's whatever.

But you want to have like a little home.

Across the street is quite something.

That's actually a little thirsty on Westbrook's books.

Yeah.

Big time.

Or like a little stalkery.

It could be like a creepy.

Yeah.

Like you better not.

You better not talk shit about me.

I know where you live.

Like across the street.

Exactly.

Yeah.

So I just, I, it's a a it's just a very funny visual of the two of them like lebron can't get rid of this guy westbrook's going to like text and be like hey i see you're drinking some wine yeah you uh mind if i come over yeah wait uh i smelled tacos is it tuesday again yeah huh um all right billy my hot seat is pft oh so uh not that crazy

a couple years ago uh you had that idea to make rumbler like tinder for fighting yeah uh so it

turns out an israeli company has developed it it's called michu.im and you can go on there hop on

there and find people to argue with and if you want to consensually fight each other that's awesome

like in in washington right mutual combat state kwame Brown taught us that. And, uh, my cool throne is, are you on it, Billy? No, I haven't signed up yet.
Why not? Cause I can't read. Oh, cause your fists are deadly weapons.
You can't, yes, you couldn't fight somebody. You get charged.
Yes. Uh, my cool throne is pandemic amnesty.
It turns out anything you do during the pandemic, uh, we're all going to forget about and forgive each'm done with everything so this was an article i think in the new york times and it was so fucking funny because it was i think it was written from the side of like uh someone who's been freaking out and yelling at everyone to wear their mask constantly for like two years and they're like hey let's just forget all that stuff we did yeah, no, no. I'm actually, I'm okay with forgetting that the last two years happened entirely.
My brain cannot, like, there will be things that are said and memories, and I just can't, like, place it because of the last, whatever, two and a half years. Yeah, just like the last two years, objectively, were not good for a lot of people.
Can we just, like, I will go back to being 25 years old, subtract two years from your bill you'd be 21 yeah uh no that's a bad idea let's make him 20 you can't drink yeah good point yeah you didn't touch alcohol until you're 21 um i yeah i'm fine with just pretending that's the year 2020 again yeah sweet just get back to it it was funny though to just be like reset sorry guys maybe overre's like some people said some things that we- Right. Listen, we all kind of stepped over the line a little bit.
But I think anything should be forgiven. Like, anything.
Yeah. Oh, Billy, what did you do? Why? What did you do in the last two years? Like, anything.
Anything specific you want to tell us about? No, but whatever it was, forgive me for it. Okay.
So just tell us- January 6th? What it is, yeah. Never happened.
You're forgiven, Billy. Starting the pandemic in Italy.
Both things. I was in Wuhan.
Yeah. Okay.
Kissing frogs. Yeah, yeah, that was.
All right. Jake.
My hot seat's the Philadelphia 76ers. They lost a pair of second round picks for illegal free agency.
Aw. I heard Hank turn his microphone on.
It's a second Jake's set. Baseball and football season, Jake.
Are they taking, they tanking, though? I would have had it, but it's baseball and football season. Are they tanking? I heard they were.
Hank would know more than me. I don't even pay attention.
One last night. Embiid didn't even play one last night.
Wow. It's preseason.
Harden, 17 assists. He's back to MVP form.
I'm sure that will turn out poorly for you.

Good luck with that.

Back to MVP form.

I'll say it again.

Wait, let me check what month it is.

Let me check back to MVP form.

November?

I'm sure he'll be an MVP come June.

I think Harden's really...

He's great.

He's in great shape.

Did you see him?

Yeah.

It was before Thanksgiving.

Yeah.

Tyrese Maxey, absolute star.

The Sixers are back. Okay.
Hank is going to be sick. Hank, are you going to be sick? No.
Well, they don't have a second-round pick. Yeah, so it's an MVP like six years.
To me, taking away second-round picks from NBA teams, it's like, okay, what does that do? Like three or four of those guys will stick. It's less than a slap on the wrist to them.
Yeah. Also, if we are going to go with the hater narrative, there's nothing in the world I'm rooting more for than the Lakers to get the number one pick in the lottery.
Why? Because the Pelicans get their pick. Oh, okay, good.
Yeah, I forgot that part. I like how Hank calls it the hater narrative.
It's not actually how you feel. If you were going to do this.
Well, yeah, People are acting like I'm a hater. So if you know, I'm going to play the part.
Yeah. You're doing a bit.
Yeah. The Lakers do have a lot of cap space, which sucks coming up, I believe.
But yeah, if you play the hater narrative. It'd be unbelievable.
That would be. An unbelievable lottery ball draw.
Okay. My cool throne is the XFL.
They announced-teams. They're back.
PFT or D.C. Defenders returning.
We've got the Vegas Vipers, the Seattle Sea Dragons, the Orlando Guardians, the St. Louis Battle Hawks, the San Antonio Brahmers, the Arlington Renegades, the Houston Roughnecks, and the Defenders.
And when is this starting? February. February what? 2023.
It's like, yeah, right after the Super Bowl. Okay.
Yeah okay yeah so you'll watch opening week the guardians i don't even know i i've i've long i've stayed pretty firm on my thoughts that like i love the seasons of sports and like yeah march is so sacred to me for college basketball like i just i i love march we need pft to get a tryout again yeah i mean i'm ready i've been. I've been working out, kind of.
You turned down NFL offers, right? That was a quick kind of. Yeah, I've turned down NFL offers.
Multiple NFL offers. It should be known that I actually, Mike Vrabel.
Ooh, The Rock. And Arthur Smith.
What if The Rock is your millionth follower? That's actually a great call. Oh, The Rock.
So you can collab your free agency. That would unlock my powers.

Yes.

Yes.

And if we're going with the narrative that COVID didn't exist,

you're basically just coming off getting cut.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah.

A second ago.

I'm ready.

Fresh in the free agency.

I'm ready.

Just unleash me.

That was right before COVID.

Yeah, it was.

I'm good to go.

Yeah.

Yeah, the XFL, it's weird because every team is practicing in Arlington, and then they're flying out for their games to their specific cities. It's a weird setup that they have.
And the Guardians, they were the New York team, but I guess Darren Revell embarrassed them so much when you put on that stupid uniform that they just moved to Orlando to get away from them. Nice.
So Orlando gets them, and then Seattle moved from being the Dragons to the Sea Dragons now. I like that.
It's cooler, I think. Yeah, you're on the ocean.
It's good synergy with the Seahawks. Yeah, and then the Vipers, they used to be Tampa Bay.
Now they're Vegas, the Vegas Vipers. You're going to have to remind me all this stuff.
I don't know. I'm just a D.C.
Defenders guy, so, Rock, get in touch with me. I can still kick the dick out of a football.
And I'm actually, here's a little wrinkle that I just thought of the other day. I'm going to bring back barefoot kicking.
Nice. I'm going to be a barefoot kicker like they were in the 70s and 80s.
That's going to put asses in seats. I agree.
Especially from perverts out there that are foot guys. We get a picture of you maybe in black and white kicking a football barefoot, losing a little hair.
It's like, holy shit, are we in the 60s? Yeah, it looks great. This is awesome.
Maybe a cigarette on the sideline? Oh, I will smoke during games. Yes, yes.
For sure. February 18th, so six days after the Super Bowl.
Okay. Yeah.
That's too soon. I know that people will, there's like a small sect that'd be like, you're not a football guy.
It's like, I actually think that makes me more of a football guy because I just, I love football season. And then when they start playing it during basketball season, I need my seasons.
I need my cycles. I'm like, I'm a, I'm a creature of habit.
Um, if the rock needs someone to call the games, you do that. that.
Okay. Yeah.
All right. Then I will.
Yeah. All right.
Of course. Yeah.
If you guys get involved, I'll begrudgingly watch and be like, yay. That's my promise.
Steam player. Perfect.
Yeah. Okay.
Let's get to our interview. What do you say, Billy? Billy was going to be like, can I play? 69.
I picked 69. We're not.
I know. I got confused.
So you should be eliminated. False start.
Yeah. You should absolutely be eliminated from this.
Is that the first false start in the history of a lot of fish? Yeah. No, you have a five-year penalty.
You have to pick last. That's way too early.
Did you notice in the game last night that the Browns? You're like an hour too early. Yeah.
The Browns had 12 men on the field

on the very first play.

That's fucking nuts.

That is a very Brown start.

That's almost impossible to do.

Yeah, but it's the Browns.

Okay, let's get to Michael Irvin,

and then we will do one question

with the quarterback

and finish up with guys on chicks.

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He has been on the show before. It is the playmaker, Hall of Famer, Michael Irvin, in the flesh.
Great to see you. Look incredible.
Well, thanks for saying that. Thanks.
I appreciate it. No, you do.
I mean it. I think you're the best dressed person that's ever come through part of my tape.
Yeah. Still got all your hair, too.
Yeah, looking great. And real hair.
You guys do know this is, okay, all you guys are pretty good. Yeah.
You guys are pretty good. I see you.
Yeah, we got hair. We got hair.
I got most of my hair. Okay.
Yeah, okay. I got a head on.
Okay. He's getting a little balding.
This is the one thing. You guys, this is the one thing, man.
I don't know why it affects men so much. Yeah.
Like, it is the real. Even when I'm on with Stephen A, right, and he messes with me, oh, you're wearing a toupee.
It's not a toupee. My hair is real.
I want to get back on Stephen A, but I don't want to lose my audience. Yeah.
Because if I get back on him because his hair is receding him. Man, your hair is leaving right now.
It's walking away from us as we sit right here talking. You know what I'm saying.
That's 90% of the men out there. And I don't want to lose my audience.
So I just have to let it go. Yeah, that's true.
You can't. If you go after bald guys on a sports show.
You're putting yourself in harm's way. People are going to turn it off and be like, what the fuck did you just say? Right, right, right.
Exactly. Dudes do it, but it is tied to our ego.
Yes. It is really tied to our ego.
So like I said, we've had you on before, so we don't have to bring back up the when we played in the cold, it was cold tweets and all that stuff. Yeah, that was funny.
So we want to talk about some football, but you mentioned Stephen A. We are big fans of Stephen A.
Is there any prep that you do mentally when you go into the battle with him, knowing he's going to pull out all the tricks, he's going to twist everything, he's a master at what he does. How do you deal with that? He is a master at what he does.
Yeah. And people don't understand that even there's a talent to it all, and he does have a talent.
I was going off one day about the Cowboys and their defense. Finger licking good.
I must have gone on an eight, nine-minute rant. Really small sermon.
A sermonic speech is what I call it. A sermonic speech.
I gave it to you. Put some word in there and everything.
But he stayed out. Did not

interrupt. People don't, you

underestimate true talent. Like that's

a gift too. Like hey,

it's your show. I know

when I gotta pull out and just let you go.

You know, it's his show and he

pulls back and let me go.

So yeah. Now the only

problem I gotta do is I know what I'm going into.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

So I work Sunday morning. Stephen A's

tweeting at my show Sunday. I'm watching you.
I heard what you said. Be ready tomorrow.
Stop, man. One show over here, one show over there.
Well, he's ducking you right now. He's out.
He says that he has COVID right now. I don't know if you saw this tweet that he sent to you this morning.
Oh, yeah, I saw it. You were on the show.
He said, well, you ruined one of his favorite segments, Michael. You ruined his favorite segment this morning.
He said that you put Tony Pollard over Derrick Henry in terms of your best running back of the weekend. You know that that's Stephen A.
Smith's favorite segment that he gets to do on Mondays. You put Tony Pollard, your cowboy, over there.
Would you like to apologize to Stephen A. Smith for ruining his favorite segment? Absolutely not.
They gave me that playmaker. I am the noun.
I'm bringing up the adjective. They are a playmaker.
I am the playmaker. I'm the noun.
They're the adjective. I pick my playmakers.
And I put themes on my playmakers. Like today, it was a mighty rushing win.
Acts 2-2 talks about it. When one plays on one.
You want to know it sounds like a mighty rushing

win. But you take the D off.

It was mighty rushing win.

W-I-N. All the guys

that did a mighty

job rushing the football to get the

win. Now, Pollard's number

one because he took 15

rushes to get 131 yards.

It was incredible, yeah. 15 rushes to get

131 yards. It's not just

the number of yards. It's also

how many times did I have to touch the ball

I'm sorry. rushing to get 131 yards.
It was incredible, yeah. 15 rushes to get 131 yards.
It's not just the number of yards. It's also how many times did I have to touch the ball to get it.
Derek Henry, I think he had 32 carries for 219 yards. And I like talking distance travel, too.
Derek Henry, that motar, I call him a motar, half man, half machine. That motar, that motar, it's his sixth time rushing for 200 yards.

Six times.

The three dudes that have done it three times, when I say their names,

you're going, oh.

I mean, you're talking about LaDania Tumlinson, Barry Sanders,

and Jim Dan Brown.

It don't get no better than that.

And they only did it three times.

And he did it six times.

That's why I didn't bring him number one because, hey, he's used to this.

He said it four times against the Texans. Yeah, the last four times he's played the Texans.

Every time.

Yeah.

Four times in a row.

So Tony Pollard was incredible.

There's always one team you know you could just dump.

Yeah, who is that team for you?

Well, since I won so many rings, I had quite a few teams like that. You had a lot of teams.
Was there one team, though, that you're like, I know I got them every time? I would have to say it was Arizona Cardinals. Every time.
No matter what. We got them.
We going to beat them. We got them.
They were in the East back then. They were in the East back then.
They were in the East. And then they went and drafted Aeneas Williams.
And Aeneas Williams, he's in the Hall of Fame. Cornerback.
He's a great dude, man. He and I battled for quite a few years, you know, and he's in Dallas area a lot.
So we used to battle and then I would run into him in the restaurants. So we came, became, you know, he's a pastor.
We became great friends. But I would say, yeah, I've had my best games against Arizona.
So the Tony Pollard thing, this is obviously relevant right this second because Jerry Jones came out and said that Zeke is still the starting running back. Do you agree with that? Yes, absolutely.
Tony Pollard ran the ball 14 times, people. He's electric.
14 times. Yeah, it's.
And that's why I made him number one playmaker. You go 14 rushes for 131 yards.
That's more than 32 for 209 for me, 219. I mean, that's what Derrick had, 219.
But yes, I believe that. It's 14 rushes.
A true bail cow back is Derrick Heron, who got 32 rushes. You see what I mean? So Pollard, we can't run him 30 times.
That's not him. So Zeke, yeah, Zeke starts.
It's a mentality in an order. And that team is built around Dak Prescott and Zeke.
They came in together. 2-1-4, that's the area code in Dallas.
21Zeke, number four is Dak. That's the area code.
That's how you got to run that team. I don't care who you start, but Tony gets about 14 carries.
Zeke carries the rest of the load. Okay.
What about a playmaker at wide receiver that's still – the name's kind of out there right now. It seems like he's doing a bit of a free agency tour almost like a college kid getting recruited Odell Beckham yeah would you like to see Odell on the Cowboys oh oh I would love to see Odell on the Cowboys but even bigger than that

I guarantee you I could tell you Odell would love to see Odell on the Cowboys yeah he would yeah

trust me he wants to wear the star trust me trust me I know Odell Odell and I've had conversations

I'm going to go to the next one. I tell you, Odell would love to see Odell on the couch.
Yeah, he would. Trust me.
He wants to wear the star? Trust me. Trust me.
I know Odell. Odell and I have had conversations about that a long time ago.
Now, would you think Odell could be a number two receiver? Because CD right now. Right.
CD. Now, I read a stat about CD where it's like he had five catches, 77 yards and a touchdown, and that means he's got 195 career receptions.
That's the most by a Cowboy in his first 40 games. So, C.D.
is on his way. And he's playing well.
Now, all of that, C.D. is my guy.
You know what I mean? We got him in the 88. You know what I mean? He's in the 88 club and everything.
But we are throwing the ball more now. And that's also lens hands, too.
Yeah, Odell can be in that. Odell can be there.
You're throwing the ball. We're passing the ball so many times, way more than we were when we were playing.
You got 25 passes a game. Yeah.
We got 25 passes. I remember being at the Pro Bowl with Tim Brown, and Tim Brown said, Michael, man, you know, he's from Dallas.
You know, he said, man, and my contract up, I'm thinking about coming home, man, and playing. No, no, no, no, no, no, we don't need that.
We only got 25 passes. I got to get my 8-9.
I got to catch my 8-9. Jay going to catch him about four or five.
You know, there just wasn't enough to go around. Now, you're gonna have two number ones on a football team.
Because they're throwing the ball so much. It's the passing game now that wins it.
So yeah, Odell Beckham would light up Dallas. Odell has to be, you gotta understand Odell, Odell has to be in a place where the lights are bright for him to be his best.
You can't stick him in Cleveland. Yeah.
You can't stick him in Cleveland. It kills his light.
It's like a flower. He needs to be in the sun.
He needs to be in the sun. You can't stick him in Cleveland.
Put him in L.A., put him in New York, put him in Dallas where that light is bright. That's where he took the one-handed catch.
You're watching a beautiful flower. So you think it's a possibility about Dallas? Well, Odell, I think it's more of a possibility now because, you know, of course he liked what he won last year with the Rams, but the Rams are looking so bad right now.
Even Odell couldn't fix that. But Odell to the Cowboys can tilt the balance towards the Cowboys.
And Odell can come in and be a savior because he wants to be a savior, too. That's how he gets his money, too.
He's a savior. Yeah, he can come in and help save the Cowboys.
So we have this conversation all the time on the podcast. PFT is a Washington football fan.
I'm a Bears fan. We always talk about the quarterbacks and, like, do you have the guy? Because having the guy, that's everything, right? Like, you know, Troy Aitman was the guy.
Is Dak the guy? Are you? Do you have any reservation about it? No, no, no, no. And Dak is, that's what, this is such a unique situation.
That's why I try to even talk about when we lean over into the Zeke situation. Very rarely do you have it in the NFL where your quarterback really is the heart and soul of your football team.
That's what Tom Brady has been for his football teams. So you get leadership.
We ordained quarterbacks as leaders, but they're not always great leaders. More than likely, they're not great leaders.
Yeah. More than likely.
And it helps a lot when he is a natural leader.

He's a natural leader, and that's what Dak is.

And Dak and Zeke, they're so tied together.

That's why I keep saying, guys, you can't mess up the structure of this team.

You can't mess up the order of this team.

Guys come in that locker room.

They look at Zeke. They look at Dak to check, am I giving out enough? Am I doing right? Am doing right am i doing what i need to do so yes you got to keep that order in place okay i like i mean i like that answer because i we we've had dac on a couple times we don't know him personally and i think he's always and whenever he's healthy he he looks incredible yeah it's just staying healthy is obviously the part and and it's only the last few years even though it's kind of saying staying healthy is an issue because he's been hurt the last few years.
But before that, he stayed healthy. He had never gotten hurt.
So I know what he's going through when you're dealing with the ups and downs. The peaks and valleys of being hurt on the football field.
And you can't play your team looking at you. It's the worst thing in the world because you feel like you're letting everybody down.
You know what I mean? I had a broken neck and I was trying to get back on the football field. I just felt like I was letting my boys down.
It's just the worst feeling in the world. So yeah, no doubt this thing goes through that.
Like you said with your broken neck, you had a significant injury in Philadelphia at one point in your career and we've been talking a lot about the Eagles. There's been a lot of discussion about Philadelphia being a good sports town recently.
You have a very intimate relationship with the city of Philadelphia because they did boo you when you got hurt there. Rightfully so.
Rightfully so. Rightfully so.
Okay, why's that? I've been whooping their ass for a long time. So our guy Max right here, he's a Philly guy.
He was at that game and he booed you.

Max, did you boo me?

He was a little kid.

He was five years old.

Yeah, that was probably me.

I was probably a five-year-old kid saying all the nasty things.

You're the one out here.

That's what I mean.

Yeah, that was crazy.

You know what?

That night,

Jeffrey Lurie, of course,

the owner came to my room,

my hospital room, and he was vexed. He was vexed.
His spirit, lips were moving. He was crying.
He said, man, I'm so sorry. Michael, I'm so sorry that you had to deal with that.
And I wanted to free him. You know what I mean? I just saw his spirit so vexed.
I really wanted to free him, but I really believed that. I said, man, Mr.
Lord, we're good. I said, them people, they were not cheering that I was hurt.
They would just say, get his black ass out of here. He's been killing us for years.
And I understand they are right. That's true.
They don't boo nobody. They were right.
And it's not like when I was winning, I was polite about it. I put my arms up.
Hey, first down and all in your face. You know, it was cool.
And now it's so funny. Now I go back to Philly, and even when I'm doing a game, when I get ready to talk, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, they won't even let me talk.
You can't even hear what I'm saying on TV. And Dallas ain't even playing.
Green Bay and Philly playing. Green Bay and Philly was playing.
And I was like, Dallas is not even here. What is all this right here? And I turned to one guy, and I said, man, you playing Philly.
What are you yelling it for? He said, listen, Michael, I don't like Philly, and Philly don't like us. But the one thing we both can agree on, we both hate a Dallas Cowboys more.
Dallas, son. I said, okay, I get it.
I love it. I love it.
I get it, yeah. All right, so the other big story out of the NFC East this year, the Giants, you kind of called it.
I want to hear your take about, so in the preseason they had a big fight, and you were on the record. You're like, I like that they're fighting.
Right. So explain that for people who, you know, didn't play in the NFL, because a lot of times we'll see the fights and be like, what's going on, Aaron Donald, you know, with his fight, but what I wanted people to point to, and they were trying to, actually, like, what kind of control they're having, they're fighting on on the first day what? you mean tell me these dudes are competing on the first day that they get into a fight that means that's great that's great you want the mindset just like that every time we step on this field we come to do something and I want to compete every.
And we're talking about the first day in this spotlight league now, where the first few days you go to camp, you got to walk through. You can't even go more than five miles an hour.
It'll be a violation of some CBA agreement. When Jimmy Johnson put us through three workouts, I mean three full padded workouts, I, really hitting.
And now it's just... So to get that kind of competition on day one says something is working.
And nobody else caught that. Nobody else caught it.
Yeah, you had it. Nobody else caught it.
I was the first one to say that Philly is headed towards Dynasty. Dynasty.
Now we're talking dynasty. Yeah, I said that this summer in Philly.

Before the season didn't even start,

I said, oh my God.

If they had the right hand on the stairwell

and the right hand on the center,

if these hands work out,

they're going to be doing something

for quite a while.

And they are working out.

What is it about Philly?

What are they doing right

that makes you such a believer?

It's one thing to say,

I think the Eagles are going to win the Super Bowl.

You jumped right into,

they're going to have a dynasty. Yeah, but there are a couple things you look at.
There are a couple things you look at. Because the spirit of a team is going to permeate the locker room.
There's going to be some hard moments in the midst of a game. Hard moments.
Tough moments. Do we have something that brings us together? And Philly has that.
You get Jalen Hurts. You go get Devontae Smith.
You go get A.J. Brown.
All of these guys can have a little chip on their shoulder. Is that my phone? Yeah.
Might be. All these guys have a chip on their shoulder.
You got to get into your Louis Vuitton bag. Who's FaceTiming you? I'm on air.
I can't talk right now. Is that Rodell? Don't tell me.
Who was it? You don't even know. You don't even know.
I think Michael Orton. I think you still got that dog in there.
Of course. We all do.
Yeah. We all do.
We all do. I'm going to get to Philly, and I'll tell you about that dog and all of us.

I'm going to get to Philly.

So Philly has these guys, very talented guys.

Jalen Hurts and Arthur Brown have already been friends.

These guys, Jalen Hurts, Devontae Smith, A.J. Brown,

they can all say nobody gave us a chance.

See, there's the connector.

There's the connector.

A.J. Brown, oh, Tennessee, wanted to get rid of me.
Oh, this person really wants to get in touch with you. That's my doorbell.
Oh, he's pulling out a different phone. I gotta watch people to see who's trying to come and get my money, you know what I'm saying? I answer the phone, are you making me money or trying to take my money?

If I make it, I can say, Lord, I'm taking it. Please hang up.
That's what I say. You see what I'm saying? That's how I answer the phone.
But, yeah, I like Philly because they have something that connects them. We see the talent, but do you have that one thing that connects you? I always say to people, football teams and organizations never win championships.
It's got to be a football family because it's going to come down to the peaks and the valleys of the season. And if you go in a valley and you can come closer like family, then you can come out that valley better.
And these guys have history together. They have this thing that nobody is giving us a chance and you put that together with talent, yeah.
You got you got something. Let me tell you about the dog in us.
Yeah, yeah. All of us have at least two of us in each of us.
Some even have more. Whoa.
Some even have more. All of us have at least two of us in each of us.
The great men, the great men in this world tries to manage the kids so he doesn't mess up the king. We both got a kid and king in us.
You want to manage that little kid so he doesn't mess up the king. Because the kid be wanting to do a lot of crazy things.
But the king be like, dude, you can't do that. Calm down, calm down.
You know what I mean? You can't do it. So I think that's what I tell all great men.
You got to make sure, because it's real. The Bible already says we all fall short of the glory.
So all of y'all, they tell you, I'm perfect. No, you're not perfect.
You got some issues. You just ain't told nobody.
That's your kid. We all got our kid.
We all got our issues. There's no one in this room that has given up everything and told anybody everything.
You got something you ain't telling nobody because you don't want to let that damn kid out. I like it.
Never trust a man that doesn't have any vices whatsoever. Yes, absolutely.
Because they're keeping a big one from you. Yeah, right, right, right.
I'm saying, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're nodding.
I can buy that. I can buy that.
Let me know some of yours, but that's fine. We all got some We all got some.
We all got some. It's actually better when people know your vice, because then it's like, you know it.
Right, right, right. And that's why it's so funny, because you know what the problem they were having when Jim Irsay came out on Dan Snyder.
That's why they said, oh, they send Jim Irsay, because what can he say about Jim Irsay? We all know it. We all know it.
It's a good freedom. It's true.
We're already out. You know what I mean? So I have a freedom of that.
I just think, I think the Bible says confess one ye to another, pray one ye for the other. In this we shall find healing.
So confessing your journey, what he means by that is when we talk we'll find out we're going through the same things. But nobody ever talks.
So you go through the issues isolated because you're not talking with anybody because the devil has told you to shut down and don't say anything. Now you're going crazy dealing with it by yourself.
If you open up and talk to a few dudes, dudes say, man, I'm dealing with the same thing. Or you can meet people or find people in different spectrums, at different spectrums of the problem.
You know what I mean?

And they can tell you how they came out of it, how they did things.

That's why it's important to talk.

And I'm like Irsay.

Y'all know about my junk.

I'm free.

Hurt people hurt people, too.

That's the one.

That's my favorite Bible passage.

Because that actually is the truth where people will come at you and you're like, what's going on?

Right, right, right.

You're not doing this because you just want to be mean.

There's something going on with yourself.

There's something else going on.

Thank you. is the truth where people will come at you and you're like, what's going on? You're not doing this because you just want to be mean.
There's something

going on with yourself that you're

pushing off to someone else. And trying to

discover and discern that is a whole

other world. Yeah.

You set a point about the Eagles

having a family, connecting, what they're

connected with. What was

your Cowboys team? What was

that connection? Was it the White House? No, no, no, no. Our connection was losing them damn games early and getting our heads kicked in.
Now, the reason we were able to be successful, and to this day, to this day, I got a text the other day, last Monday, not today, last Monday, from Troy, right after Monday Night Football. He said, man, get ready to go to go on the plane and get back, man, I just wanna tell you guys I love you.
Me and Emmitt, just me and Emmitt. That right there, you know, cause we came in, we went three and 13, and Troy one and 15, we lost early.
We had 10, we used to have all these team meetings and talk about things going to change, and they never did. We went right there and lost more, but, but when we did turn it around, we never had a problem to this day.
We've never had, that's awesome. That's great.
We, we, we've never had an issue to this day and all the, and every time we talk or text each other, we ended with, I love you, man. And it's just a beautiful thing.
And, and Jalen Hurts brings this, he brings this, what a hell of a great leader he is. And I'm going to tell you something.
You know, you guys know enough about rubber banding. When you go from one, when you go all the way one side to the other, it's like, it's glorious.
Imagine having Carson Wentz, who was aloof. Yeah.
And everybody said he wasn't a great leader. They even wanted Nick Foles over him.
Now you go from Carson Wentz who's aloof and not a great leader to this dude to this dude Jalen Hurts who at the end of every meeting and in every game he stands in there, he talks to his team. At the end of that speech he always says family, I love you guys and they go crazy.
They go crazy. You know what I'm saying? I said, God darn it.
Darn it, man, somebody gets. That joker said something, man.
I messed it up the first time, but I thought it was a great one. He said, I tell all my guys, man, we cannot be the thermometer in the room.
We got to be the thermostat. Ooh.
Wow. Dude, a thermometer just fills the temperature.
Yeah. A thermostat sets the temperature.
That's smart. I like that.
That's powerful. Yeah.
That's great stuff, man. That is great stuff.
I would steal that. I just can't.
I mean, Jalen Hurts, we saw it at Alabama, the way he dealt with the Tua situation. And he was ready to come back in when Tua went out in the SEC championship game.
Like, that tells you everything you need to know about him. Right over to Oklahoma and win a starting job and everything.
There's something different about this dude. And we only talk about the physical most of the time when it comes to football.
How fast he runs, how he jumps, how far he throws. But the reality is, what kind of leader are you? Can you get men following you? Does the physical, though, like when Jalen Hurts is squatting like 700 pounds, the team has to be like, well, this guy's fucking insane.
Well, what it does is say, hey, all of those little fourth and ones where they just pack everybody and go. It gives you hope.
Yeah. And let me tell you something.
I was telling them this today on First Take. What does hope do?

Hope will dictate your effort.

Hope will always dictate effort.

If somebody gives you a lot of hope, man, you're going to give out a whole lot of effort

because you got hope.

Man, I can do this.

I can do this.

But if you have a little bit of hope, you're going to give less effort.

Yeah.

Hope will dictate.

It's human nature.

It's human nature. Hope will dictate effort.
And they know every time they get up in that fourth one, we good. Jayla Hurst, SWAT 600.
So it gives them that hope, which makes them put down more effort. That's how everyone talks about Tom Brady.
And there's definitely, that's part of the game that can't be measured in a stat sheet when you hear any of them talk about being down in a game and they look in the huddle and they're like, well, we have Tom Brady. And right.
And that's the only reason. And that's why I can't count him out in the NFC South.
I know. There's nothing in the South.
I can't either. Atlanta, Carolina.
What is that? You know what I mean? Atlanta, Carolina. I'm not taking Tom Brady out on Atlanta, Carolina.
I'm not doing it. You see what I mean?

So I say, artist saints.

I'm not taking Tom Brady out for in the damn dog.

Yeah.

Are you joking?

I'm not doing it.

So I'm still saying, hey, man, I can't pick any of them teams in the South.

I'm still going with Tom Brady.

Okay, what about on the AFC side of things? The Philadelphia Eagles, obviously, I think, are them and the Cowboys.

They look to be the best teams in the NFC. And the 49ers now that they got Christian McCaffrey.
They could put something together. It's crazy, the element that he brings to the run game.
We always used to say, like, you could plug anybody into Kyle Shanahan's system and you could squeeze 1,100 yards out of whoever back there. But when you get a star in there, it's like, holy shit.
When you get that kind of dude. It's incredible.
And it's not just, you know, it's not just a one-cut runner. That catch he made, you guys know why running backs can't make plays like that? Think about it.
All their lives, they never had to track a ball that long. Running backs run the swing passes, so you got to track the ball from the quarterback to you.
It's 10 yards at the most, 12 yards at the most. The issue becomes, and very few running backs can do it, is when you send them up the field.
Like that catch Christian McCaffrey made. That was an up the field catch.
That's a running back tracking the ball for 40 yards. That's not what they do.
That's not what they do. They get handed the ball.
They don't have to track it. I can track that.
No matter what. I'm putting my body in position to catch it.
Not many running backs can do it. Christopher McCaffrey can.
I guess out of the West, the Niners look like they could cause some people some problems in the playoffs. And that defense is still getting better because they still got a lot of guys out.
And they're coming back now. On the AFC side, it looks like Bills and Chiefs is what it's going to come down to, probably.
Right, right. And I'm going to tell you something.
That's another thing, too, man. And I've been on Patrick Mahomes because I said, you know, everybody said, oh, we're not going to miss Tyreek Hill.
Yeah, you'll miss him. You'll miss him.
But Patrick Mahomes gives you that thing you need. Now you've got a bunch of two and three receivers, right? Two and three, not a real pure number one.
But Patrick Mahomes gives you so many opportunities. So I can take the twos and the threes and win with them because I'm going to give them a second and third route within the first route.
You can also say Travis Kelsey is the number one receiver, right? But Travis Kelsey, he's the number one target. He's the number one receiver.
Yeah, he's the number one receiver, the number one target as a tight end. But boy, and he's a beast.
He's a great dude. I love Travis Kelsey.
That's my guy of all guys. Travis Kelsey.
But Patrick Mahomes, when you give a receiver a second chance, and then a third chance, dude, I mean, he's just incredible with that football, man. He is absolutely incredible.
So yeah, I got the Chiefs. I got Buffalo.
You saw Buffalo look like last night. But I'm telling you right now, I got Miami in that whole race.
Oh, okay. Miami with Tua is a different Miami.
Miami with Tua, Tua's 5-0 this season. And what has happened this season is great for Tua.
I know everybody's been talking about the injuries and everything, but what I'm saying is, when Tua was out, they lose. When Tua's been in, they win.
It's solidified in the locker room. If anybody had any doubt, that's our guy.
We need this guy. So now, back to the hope dictating effort, I know we got our guy.
I can give all I got in this effort. Yes.
no, it's a good point. Like, the difference between watching the Dolphins with and without him is, like, stark.
And you're like, okay. Right, right.
You need him for that hope. Right.
And as much as we – and coming into the season, nobody said Tua has definitely made his mark that he's going to be the quarterback of the future. I say now he's made his mark.
He's the quarterback of the future. So can I bring up not the best stuff? When we're talking about the Dolphins, let's stay there.
The U is just in shambles. What's going on? When is the U going to be back? When is the monster returning? I think we're coming back now.
I know everybody wanted to be this year. Big win against Virginia in overtime by two.
Right, by two. But it's going to take some time to get in.
We gotta get Coach guys in. That's true.
It's an overhaul. Right, right.
We gotta get Mario guys in. Listen, one of the things Coach talked to me about when he first got here, he said, man, we gotta do some heavy recruiting recruiting.
Yeah. Truth is, the cup of bear.
The cup of this bear. We had to do some heavy recruiting and get some more guys in here, some guys that could help us win games.
And I think they're doing that. They're getting those guys in there.
So I want to give him a year or two. And then get his guys in and let's see.
But Crystal Ball is our guy. Okay.
So you is a work in progress. I'm not a Miami fan.
I'm a fan of Danny Boy Kane, who's a diehard Miami fan. Shout out to Danny Boy Kane.
Right, we got to work the right way and do it the right way. See, here's what I was worried about, too.
That flash win. Those flash wins.
If they would have won that Texas A&M game, which was a close game, I believe that would have catapulted them. You know what I mean? They would have been back.
Because it gives them that confidence. Now, even if they're back this year and it's not sustainable, now we're on a roller coaster.
So I'd almost rather walk into it instead of, whoo, we're back, and then next year. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I think this slow process is going to work out for us.
What about when your son decided to go to Miami? You know what it's like being a football player at Miami. I'm going to guess you probably had some wild times as a player there.
When you sent him off to school, were you excited that he was going to go to Miami? Oh, yeah. Or were you like, hey, you got to watch out down there? Of course.
What was that situation like? No, no, no. Listen, man.
I ain't say all that I want, man. That dude 22 years old.
Y'all stop playing. Y'all remember what y'all were like at 21, 22.
Things were working very well, and they were always working, even when you ain't want them working. You're just trying to sleep.
You're waking up with them working. You know, Jake.
Right, right. You know.
So I'm expecting, yeah, he had a great time down there. I know.
I heard you say, yeah, well, you must have really had a great time. I had a great time every damn time.
That was a problem. Yeah, do you? That was a damn problem.
Speaking of which, like, do you, I mentioned the White House earlier. Do you ever just, like, catch yourself daydreaming, being like, man, that was fun? Yeah, like, that was fun.
Then I got through it good. Yeah, that was fun, right? Still got a job.
Everything's working out. Damn, that was fun then I got through it good

still got a job

everything's working out

damn that was fun

damn that was fun

that was fun

it brings up a great question because you wonder

what would you do

would you rather go through life

not experiencing any of it

and never getting in any trouble

and having that straight life

or

I got a little trouble

Thank you. through life not experiencing any of it and never getting in any trouble and having that straight life is good or I got a little trouble but that shit was fun that was fun yeah cause I just think about it like you you gotta if I were you I would just like every now like if like someone sees you you know in the ESPN office and like you're just daydreaming I'd be like like, I think he's probably just how much fun that was.
That was fun. Yeah, it was crazy, man.
But you got to, man, I was so broke coming out of the ghetto. I couldn't believe they gave me that kind of money.
Right? And I didn't know what to do with it. So, yeah.
Yeah. And it was a progress, process, too, getting to the White House.
You know what I mean? We started in the hotels. Yeah.
You. Yeah.
You didn't rent a house for your parties right out the gate. Then we moved to an apartment, and they were complaining, you know what I mean? So I was like, wait a minute, man.
You go to a hotel, the nice hotel, you're going to spend $300, $400, $500 a night, right? I'm like, man, $400, $ if i if i if i did this four or five times a month you know i'm spending three thousand dollars somebody else doing this four or five times a month so why don't i just take a thousand dollars from a few people we get us a big old mansion you know what i mean i was trying to as i said to j in the office, when it was breaking news and they found the White House. Hey, right, I remember Leon Litt calling me.
Michael, man, I heard the reporters got a hold of the White House. You, man, I'm telling you, man, you should shut it down, man.
I said, Joker, this ain't no damn movie. This ain't no New Jack City.
I ain't closing nothing. Are are you crazy I'm not closing nothing in the White House I hung up the phone man a few weeks later man that they were breaking on the news I was in meetings and it was breaking and Jerry said Jerry called me and I said nah he said yeah I'm gonna talk to you I said not nah I'm getting ready for the gas I said talk to you then he told me all the news are breaking about the White House.
He said,

Michael,

what the hell were you thinking?

He says,

you know,

as long as you tell me

the truth,

I'm going to back it

100%.

What were you thinking?

I said,

honestly, boss,

I was trying to do

the wrong thing

the right way.

That was my exact words.

He just started laughing.

He said,

what can I even say to that?

He said,

what can I say to that?

He probably was pissed he didn't get an invite. That's's like, you gotta be honest with me.
He was like, you should have been honest with me. I should have got the invite.
I better not tell him one time he did say that. I better not tell him one time he did say that.
But Jerry's just a great dude. He knows how to move around the issue.
Like, you know, after all that stuff, I was on probation. So now, I took the White House.
I'm on probation. I can't go to the hotel because it's all the news and business.
So they don't even want me in the hotel. It might have helped, too.
It might have helped, like even when I was going to the hotel, if I just pulled up in another car. I pulled up in all these Mercedes, Bentley, BMW, and they all had Playmaker right on it.
Like you think I should have just got a rental or something. Why pull up with Playmaker right across this car? And that's how, because when we first got to the White House, it was all good.
Everything was working well. And we never parked the cars at the place.
We always parked somewhere and everybody kind of shuttled over a bus over so we would have all these houses in the yard. And we picked an older neighborhood.
An older neighborhood. So, you know, we just kind of sneak in.
But, you know, as it gets older and older and later and later, everybody's drinking, nobody follows the rules. Right.
So sooner or later we had 30 cars parked all up on the, you know what I mean? And that's kind of how we got busted. Yeah.
I mean, but it sounds like a great, sometimes it's fun to do the wrong thing the right way. Yeah.
That's kind of how we operate. It saved me because even when I got caught, right, in a hotel, when they come to the hotel and the the guy went and got all the information, all the data from all the other times I was in the hotel room, they had everything.
I was like, well, they got everything. That's messed up that they were putting all this manpower into, like it was the wire.
Right, right. Michael Irvin's partying again.
Right. I guarantee you they ain't winning a Super Bowl since I left.
I guarantee you right now, if I was playing right now and they came in that room and said, finish doing what you're doing to get back on the field and win us a Super Bowl. So, yeah, you think that might be the problem.
Why don't the Dallas Cowboys players get their own White House now? Why don't they bring up the teams that parties together and win Super Bowls? Well, and there's something to that. The teams that do spend time together win Super Bowls.
You don't have to necessarily be partying like we were, but it does help when you have that kind of union. And you usually get that when you're hanging out having fun.
You don't get that kind of union and commitment one to another when it's not in the midst of fun. Yes.
You were talking about Jerry a second ago. I'm curious to know what he was like back in the day and how hands-on he was with the team.
Like, if you guys lost, would Jerry come into the locker room and talk to you or chew you out or do something different? Or would he just let that all up to the coach? No, no, no. Jerry gets to speak sometimes.
Jerry will come in and speak but Jerry's the most optimistic dude in the world man. Jerry's the most optimistic and he always sees he sees the positive in everything.
And it's right away. It's right away no matter what.
You know I was in a situation one time somebody had accused me of something and I wasn't even there. And I said, Jerry called me to his office then.
I said, boss, I said, what? He said, yeah, they're saying I said, boss, listen. This time, that's not me.
This time it wasn't me. This time it wasn't me, right? And he was like, Michael, I said, boss, listen to me.
This time it wasn't me. I wasn't there.
I was dropping my daughter off somewhere else. And he instantly turned.
He's like, great, we can use this. He saw the positive in it.
I'm being blasted everywhere. He saw something positive.
Great, we can use this. You sure you weren't? I said, Jerry, I promise you I wasn't there.
And it turned out that I wasn't there. I had to end up suing the station and all the stuff one guy I got a couple million dollars from oh wow but nobody ever hears that in the yeah no they don't get the retraction um all right so uh play maker this has been awesome we have one I have one last question because I know you're going to do another interview uh without about guys which should be fantastic noble is known for their best-inclass, award-winning footwear with options across training and lifestyle.
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I don't think I asked you this the last time you were on, but our colleague who we've gotten to know very well, Deion Sanders, what type of teammate was Deion? What was Deion? Because he doesn't drink. No.
Don't drink, don't smoke, don't do anything. Did he go to the White House? No.
Really? No. So what was he like, though, as a teammate? No, Deion never did any of that.
Yeah. It's not to say Deion don't like beautiful people when he was He liked beautiful people.
Like, we all like beautiful people. You know what I'm saying? He definitely liked beautiful people, but he was a little more dolo solo in his beautiful likes.
You see what I'm saying? But no, man, I consider Deon one of my best friends, man. He'll text me the same thing, man.
I love you, man. I love you.
I told people, wherever Dion goes, wherever he goes, he's going to make it better. He's going to make it better.
You just, no matter where he goes, he's that good. He's that direct.
He's that committed. I used to tell him all the time, because we used to travel together when we were trying.
He used to, when I first got retired and I got in trouble and lost the job I had on TV, he was really trying to help me get back on TV. He was with CBS.
So we were traveling meeting people like, you know, BET we were going to do a show, Prime and Mike, Mike and Prime, and we were so funny we were in the meeting with BET and they were loving it, they wanted to buy it, they were like, what are we going to call it, Mike and Prime or Prime and Mike? And Deion said, I said Mike and Prime. Mike and Prime, right? Deion said, Deion said, yeah, yeah, we call him Mike and Prime.
I said, wait, wait, whoa. He gave it up too easy.
Wait a minute. I want Prime and Mike.
Why did he give it up so easy? There must be something to it. But we just had so much fun, man.
And all the things we did, man. Deion, I love him.
He's the best. I love him, man.
He is really the best. You know, I recruited Deion.
I brought him over to Dallas. You know, Deion called me when he was in San Francisco, man, and he said, man, listen, man, you know, Dallas is coming at my heart.
I said, why must we keep killing each other? Why can't we just play together? Why must we keep killing each other out here? He's like, man, yeah, I'm thinking about it. And I told him then, I said, whatever you think San Fran is, multiply it by 10 and you'll scratch the surface of what it's like playing for the Dallas Cowboys.
That's a good sell. You think he was sick of having to guard you? So he's like, I'll just join the Cowboys.
That way I don't have to guard Michael Irvin anymore. Well, I don't know.
Who got the best of who? All right. Deion was such a phenomenal athlete.
I, I put Deion on the map. I ran out and up in college.
Out and up. I had this joker beat.
I had him beat, man. I saw him bite on the out.
I said, oh, this joker going. He was just a freshman.
He just started playing. I said, this joker just bit on that out.
And I'm waiting on the ball. Come on, ball.
Come on, ball. Deion turned around.
After he ran. He bit on the out.
Turned back around. Caught me with the ball.
I ran the ball. Caught up with me.
Pushed me down. Jumped up.
Caught the football. I'm laying on the ground looking back.
Look at this joker running with my football. Had the ball on.
High knees. High knees all the way down, man.
This is in college. I said, look at this joker now.
But I never lost to him in college. I never lost to Florida State in college.
We always beat him. But Deion, I've had some great battles with him, man.
I call him the greatest. Deion's one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen.
Bar none, one of the greatest athletes. Just a physical specimen of physical talent.
Yeah. Is there anybody else on that list we might not be thinking of, like your best athletes you've ever been on a field with? Boy, that's a great question.
Great question. But I haven't seen many people that I will put in the class as an athlete of Deion Sanders.
There's nothing Deion can't do. I mean, you know, we would do dunk contests doing basketball and stuff.
We used to to do dunk contests. Tackle.
He can't tackle. Yeah.
Well, he can. He can.
He choose not to. Yeah, right.
On a business decision. Deion, I was like, it's like people were always asking me about blocking.
I'm going to block. I'm going to block.
But I can't take that block into Jerry Jones saying give me more money. I can only take that damn reception in there.
So can we please get to throw me some passes around here? Yes can call them, I need a blocker, I need a blocker. I got in an argument with somebody one time.
He said, man, I'm a better blocker. I said, they can't risk me blocking too much, buddy.
I'm too valuable to catch it. You're risking blocking all the time, but yeah, man, there's very few people like Deion Sanders.
Yeah. Alright, Well, Playmaker, thank you so much for coming in.

This has been phenomenal.

You're welcome anytime.

We love having you on.

Your stories are great.

So we appreciate it.

And hopefully we see you soon.

Absolutely, guys.

You guys do see this, right?

You understand.

This is the only way we get to share and talk.

Men won't open up, won't talk. The only way you really get men talking is to come through sports.

That's the only way.

That's true. Because we can hold on to our manhood if we talk in the sports.
Did you ever notice, too, that even our dating game, our dating life reverts back to sports? Did you score? Yeah. That's true.
Did you get the second base? Everything. We bring back the sports.
Everything. So you guys creating a locker room like you have here it is important yeah we can talk about a lot of things but it's the only way men get therapy to men as long as we come in the door of sports and we open up some conversations they have real conversations i don't mind sharing some of the things we went through because as the bible says i'm'm trying to confess.
And then I'm going to pray. And then hopefully we all get better because we all got some issues.
As I said, we're all trying to mitigate the kid so he doesn't kill our king. I love it.
I always say that therapists should just have a football in their office and you just have a catch when you're talking to them. I think God's going to open up more about that sort of thing.
No doubt. For real doubt for real though that's how we are man so so that's why it's important that we have things like this so you guys keep doing what you're doing thank you man thank you very much michael irvin was brought to you by cross-country mortgage you have to live somewhere you might as well own it unless you're more interested in paying someone else's mortgage it's a good time to buy when you are ready to buy.
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Now for something completely different. Okay, it's time for one question with the quarterback.
We welcome on Los Angeles Chargers quarterback, Chase Daniel, legendary guy, legendary NFL player. We have one question from all of us.
I'm going to let PFT go first, and then I'll do my one question. I'm excited.
My one question is, do you think that you can continue to play until you're 45 years old? god no i don't want to i don't want to like i played 14 years right now right and it's been great and i say play right i've only started a handful of games got into some mop-up duty but i don't know i just i i mean do i possibly think i can to 45 i don't know. That's Brady's job.
But for me, I don't want to. I want to do something else with my life eventually.
I mean, it's a good gig, don't get me wrong, but I got three little kids. I want to watch them grow up.
I want to see them grow up. I want to spend time with them.
But I don't think the league wants me around that long anyway. People are already pissed off and mad at me.
No, I would disagree. Yeah yeah i can't ask a follow-up question but i'm just as a statement i would disagree i would push back strongly yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna disagree too and i my follow-up question would be kind of similar to that do you would you say you know obviously tom brady seven super bowls peyton manning all these records but would you argue and i would make this argument but i want to know what your take is that you actually have the greatest nfl career of all time with 178 pass completions and 42 million dollars made only 178 that's it i think it might be 178 that's I can't, I can't.
Oh yeah. 178, 178 and $42 million made.

That's. be 178 that's i can't i can't oh yeah 178 178 uh and 42 million dollars made that's the greatest nfl career of all time care to comment uh is that a question that's a question that was a question yeah i listen look guys i'm i've had a hell of a career it's it's been known it's everyone wants and talk about the money.
The money's awesome. My health is awesome.
My brain is good.

I feel good. I feel young spry.
I'm only 36. But I wouldn't say it's the greatest career ever.
I mean, you look at Tom Brady, right? Like the goat, like I don't care what he's doing this year. I don't care how quote unquote bad he's playing this's playing this year he's he's he's the best to ever do it and listen it just it's it's so funny to me because every time that i'll like get some camera time in a game or going to the game twitter just goes nuts and there's always a meme there's always something that goes viral and it's probably you two doing it one of the times like, hey, this past attempts, this much money.
Listen, the money's been good, but it doesn't it doesn't necessarily define who I am. And look, I don't I don't take it for granted because it's been a really good career.
I've honestly like I've played well, but I think I have just a really good agent. I i feel like my agent like should go down as a hall of fame yes i would agree with that yeah and it's it's been good and and you know we'll we'll we'll still go maybe a year or two more and then see what else goes into it i might you know join you guys um some more with some with some uh media stuff but um you know i want to stay in the game game of football, but I've been really blessed, really lucky to have a good agent.
Not even a really good career, just a good agent. This isn't a question.
This is just a follow-up real quick calculator math. Tom Brady's made $40,000 per completion.
You've made $235,000 per completion. Well, his completions are way better than Tom Brady's.
Yeah, so that wasn't a question. That was just quick math.
Way more expensive. Expensive completions.
They're rare. They're rare.
It's like an NFT. Each one is a beautiful little snowflake.
And I'm sure if you did the touchdowns per money made, it'd be even more. Yes.
We should start an NFT business that's literally just your highlights past completions. Because there's only so many.
With the highlight and let me go viral again. Because, listen, I need to go viral.
I need more followers. I only got like 130,000.
I would hate it if he did get into media after he retired and he became a podcaster and got paid seven times as much as us and did one show a week. 21 Bored Apes per episode.
Oh, my gosh. Billy.
Yeah. We got other guys in the room.
So that's our only – Yeah, go ahead, Billy. We're done with the questions.
Hi, Chase. Billy here.
Just wondering, what's your favorite thing to contribute to a quarterback room? Ooh, good question. Favorite thing to contribute.
I've never been asked that question, Billy. Good job, Billy.
I would say – I'm actually – just so you guys know, like, we're watching film. We're trying to get ready for the Falcons right nowcons right now and i decided hey i need to take 10 minutes because that's what big cat said was going to take this so i'm up here um talking to you guys the favorite thing to contribute would probably be um do you guys like coffee at all you coffee huge coffee guy yeah okay have you heard of the jura coffee machine before a jura no you are a okay you need to check it out online it's a little expensive but it makes the best coffee that i've ever had in my entire life i brought it um when i was in 2017 i brought it to the attention of drew breeze he now has like three in his house because he's drew breeze yeah um and like one like one in every room brought it to Mitchell Trubisky in Chicago.
He has one in his house and one at the facility in Pittsburgh. And I brought it to Justin and Easton here in L.A.
And now we have one in ours. So it's it's it's good because we drink like we burn the midnight oil here a little bit.
We work 60, 70 hours a week and we like coffee so that's uh that's probably mine that's a great answer very very favorite answer yeah it's got like they're like two thousand dollars i'm looking at online but that's everyone loves the guy that brings the really nice coffee machine well also it's not it's not two thousand dollars it's it's one one two hundredth of a completion it's a kneel down down. Yeah.
Yeah. It's we can we can get that easy.

And it's all about the coffee beans, too.

You got to get the right coffee beans.

You can't you can't go cheap on the coffee beans if you go expensive on the coffee maker.

OK, yeah, that's true.

That's true.

That's like the opposite of like buy it, buy a shitty bike in a good lock.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Jake.

Yeah.

Hi, Chase.

Jake Marsh. Part of my take podcast.

I want to know in how many seconds could you recite your NFL team career path? Oh, gosh. Let's do it.
Washington, New Orleans, KC, Philly for a year, back to New Orleans, Chicago, Detroit, LA. 7.67 seconds.
Nice. Pretty good.
That's elite. That's pretty good.
And I was on what, seven teams? You've got that good brain. You were right.
Yeah you were right a lot of people don't realize that I was with Washington with Jim Zorn Jason Campbell, Todd Collins the legend Todd Collins yeah Todd Collins great 3-0 as a Washington football right, Max is our last question, then your question.

So go ahead, Max.

Oh, Memes, do you have a question?

Memes has one too.

Memes.

Oh, we have – yeah, so this is kind of our trick on the one question.

Yeah.

Go ahead, Max.

I'd just really like to know who's one quarterback that you would love to back up.

Good question.

Honestly, I'm a huge fan of Josh Allen.

Yes. Like, love his demeanor.

Obviously, everyone knows what he does on the field. He's a baller.
He's probably playing at one of the highest levels that we've seen in a long time. But I just think Josh, like, I know Case, right? So I know Case Keenum is backup now, and Case, like, says nothing but great things about him.
It just seems really fun. It seems like they have a really good quarterback room.
Yeah, I love that. I also love the notion that maybe there's an awesome, like, backup quarterback group chat out there that I don't know about.
I need to start it. I need to start it.
There is not one because I know I would be in that one if there was one, but I'm not in it. So maybe I need to start it.
You, Matt Castle, probably be in there. Chaz Batch, right? Big Cat loves Chaz Batch.
Hey, Chad Henney. Chad Henney's been around for a long time.
Yep, yep. That's a fact.
Matt Moore. Matt Moore, yep.
Matt Moore, yeah. Memes, go ahead.
Your question. How much did the double doink suck? Oh, Memes, that was mean.
That was mean, Memes. I just – I really loved that team.
Yeah, same. And, like, really, really did.
Like, thought we were, like, going to go somewhere special. I think if we won, we were going to go to L.A.
maybe. And we had already beaten Goff, like got four turnovers from him.
That one was tough because I was just so proud of how Mitch like fought through that game and then was able to lead us down on the two-minute drive. And when you have a 40-something yard field, you think you're going to make it.
And the first doink, you're like, oh, it's going in because it didn't go straight back we're like yes and it hit the second you're like oh damn and then you're like oh well we did we really it was just like it was this is another experience like it's just the outer body experience like there's no shot we lost to this team yeah but oh yeah yeah that sucked yeah. Yeah, that sucked.
Yeah. Appreciate it.
That sucked a lot. Okay, Chase, your one question for us.
Okay, mostly for you, Big Cat. So, you know when Mizzou was playing Georgia.
Yep. Right? And you and I were on the hook, possibly for a lot of money at the bar tab.
What was the most expensive you would go? Like, what is the most amount of money you would be willing to spend without your wife just absolutely cutting your balls off so um it was a quite a night if for anyone who doesn't remember i chase i just happened to see chase's tweet in the morning he was like if mizzou beats georgia drinks on me for a couple hours at what was the bar called harpo's harpo's and i i we we have a running joke on this show where whenever like charity or anything comes up that we're not actually going to do we're like oh we would have doubled that like we would have doubled it we would have matched so i was like yeah i'll double it that's fine and then mizzou goes on to almost beat georgia i did have a conversation with my wife before she went to sleep that night and i was like hey just a heads up um got myself in a little situation here uh and she's like how bad and i was like it could be like twenty thousand dollars and she's like yeah thank god for her because she's like well it's only money like it's you know we'll be okay but like i was i she was a little upset that i had just just tweeted that out and just because she was was like, wait, Georgia and Mizzou, what, like, what's the connection? And I was like, there is none. I'm a fucking idiot.
And so she's very, she knows how stupid I am. So it wasn't like, thankfully, it wasn't surprising that I got myself in a situation like that.
Your wife is a lot probably better at that than my wife. Because when my wife, my wife's like not on Twitter.
she's on Instagram, but she has a Twitter she follows. She thinks I tweet dumb stuff.
She lets me know about it all the time. And when she learned about that, I get a phone call.
Usually it's just a text. When I get a phone call from my wife, usually something's happened to my kid.
I'm in trouble. Right.
And so she's like, you understand how much money that is going to be. You are an idiot.
Stop tweeting dumb stuff. I'm like, God, no.
Yeah, I think the reason I get more of a pass is she is married to someone who gambles a lot. So that's happened constantly in my household.
So it's kind of an ebb and flow constantly of like, hey, okay, yeah, $20,000 for fucking Mizzou. It's getting a lot of traction.
People are really interested in this. When I tweeted that, I was just thinking like, ah.
And then it just went by like everybody. I got my phone blowing up.
Mizzou's winning. And I'm just like in Houston in my hotel room.
Like you and I are texting the whole second half. Like, you want to do this man like we're gonna be out money like oh my god like my phone's blowing up like what are we gonna do it would have cost us a lot of money because i did i because they were so close i did the 2000 open bar and it went in like 10 minutes so quick so quick it would have been way more than we thought I didn't know how big the bar was either.
People were sending me pictures.

They're like, this is Harpo's, bro.

So, wait, were you at the end, like in your heart of hearts,

were you rooting for Mizzou?

Or were you secretly hoping that they'd just get close?

Ask me that.

You're asking me that.

You're asking me that.

You're asking me that.

Big Cat, were you like secretly?

I know that you're like, you're basically an alum of Mizzou.

Yeah, yeah.

I played football there.

It's almost like you played there for a while.

At the end of the game, were you like kind of hoping that they lost? Yeah, I mean, it's a good question. If somebody else wanted to chime in.
Anyone wants to chime in. Yeah, I mean, listen.
I love Mizzou. I am their biggest fan, but to be completely honest with you, I was hoping that they'd get really close and lose at the end because i was not ready to spend that money i mean listen i would have done it like easily like no questions asked and i would have matched i would have matched yeah yeah and you would have helped and john anderson from espn was like bumping in so it was like cutting third but secretly i was like i don't know like i hope they get close you know if we were at the game i think it would have been a lot different because then we could have partied with everyone yeah at the bar yeah on top of the bar like that would have been cool yeah paying for everyone's bar tab to have a great night when i'm sitting on my couch is uh it's not the best that's not the best yeah no not at all all right well chase thank you so much we got to have you on for a real interview sometime um good luck this week against the falcons and uh yeah we really appreciate you coming on yeah thanks guys for having me all right thanks good luck man chase daniel is brought to you by helix sleep helix sleep is a premium mattress brand it provides tailored mattresses based on your unique sleep preferences.
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No matter if the sex is good or not.

I tell him to stop apologizing because it's such a turnoff, but this has been going for eight years.

Whoa.

How do I get him to stop?

What's he apologizing for?

Is it quick?

It's got to be quick.

I mean.

It has to be quick.

Roman swipes.

Use him now.

This feels like a therapist question. This feels like a deep-seated something.
Like, why are you? Or it's just quick. Yeah, but she said even if it's good.
What, Billy? It could be Canadian. Could be Canadian.
Good point. Could be very, very, like, you know, a nice person.
Sorry. Sorry.
Here comes the syrup. Got a little bit of cum there.
Yeah. Oh, watch out.
Watch out now. Yeah, I'm going to say.
It's icing. Visible or Roman and BetterHelp.
A combination. Use that combination for him.
And maybe get a new mattress. Yeah.
He's probably, yeah, maybe he thinks it hurts you on your old mattress that you have. You could also just reverse it and say sorry to him, like, instantly.
Yeah, don't apologize for coming. Yeah, just you say sorry right away.
You're like, sorry, I already came. You're so hot.
Listen, from an evolutionary point of view, it's beneficial to come really fast. That's what a lot of of women don't realize it's that that's how our ancestors were able to procreate more successfully was you get in you get out boom done wham bam thank you ma'am we are just products of of sorry i'm so evolutionarily advanced and thousands of years of of men before us yeah listen my my great great great, great, great, great grandfather was Rick Pitino.
Got able to bust a nut to a cave painting in five seconds. That's what you had to do.
And a rock fell on him. Yeah.
Just say, Hank, that's fucked up. Hey, what's up, guys? Hey.
Hey, what's up? What's up? I met my boyfriend a little over a year ago at a bar in Tuscaloosa he's an awesome guy with the best personality but the first thing i noticed about him was that he was totally packing in the front of his jeans whoa after dating for a couple months we actually slept together for the first time and i was so excited to see this dick he had been packing his jeans and suit pants for all of our dates plot twist i was completely caught off guard by how small it was I didn't express to him

my disappointment and let it go in the moment

I didn't want to hurt his feelings because he's incredibly nice

and puts off major PFT vibes

whoa

however I was totally confused about the huge bulge

his jeans two hours later that very

same night

okay so I'm not finished

no I actually have a I've got a

recommendation for him well can I finish yeah

I still just apologize after

Thank you. same night.
Okay, so I'm not finished. No, I actually have a, I've got a recommendation for him.
Well, can I finish that?

Yeah, just apologize after you're done.

I still chose to not voice

anything in fear of hurting his feelings.

Well, long story short, we moved

in together a month ago, and my

questions have now been answered the very first morning.

I caught him stuffing a thermal crew

sock in the front of his jeans as he

got dressed for work.

Turns out he does this every single morning.

Is this a red flag?

Yeah, this is a big... He really is a great person.

I love being with him, but this seems like something deep-rooted.

This is definitely deep-rooted.

Should I address the situation?

I've never heard of this.

Yeah, this is actually...

He's got to have the smallest dick of all time.

Actually bizarre to...

Well, I don't know if he...

He might not have the smallest dick, but just the fact that he's stuffing a thermal sock. I've worn thermal socks before.
It's obscene. He wants people to look at his dick.
That's the issue here. I've never heard of this move.
Because if you have a small dick. Girls don't check out guys' dicks.
No. It's not the reverse.
Guys out other guys dicks yeah yeah really i was hank no well i was i thought you're saying guys check out girls and then i said yeah before you finish the sentence as a man who wears eyes are up here hank i wear sweatpants um probably 70 of the year and uh i've i've learned that you have to be very cognizant you can't wear like gray sweatpants because that makes everybody in the room uncomfortable no matter if you have a big bulge or a small bulge whatever it is the fact that he's encouraging people to look at his crotch i think is a pretty big red flag yeah problems pretty big problems um it's also like what's the best case scenario girl's like oh my god and like literally this happened the girl yeah his dick is so big I can't wait to see it you're gonna have to show It eventually and then you're just rolling in with a micro yeah micro big time see he's got some body Issues and why don't shame why is he why is he doing this even though he has a girlfriend right now Also a good point yeah he should his tube sock days should be over at this point this small dick This guy must be the total minus this package, the total package. Yeah.

This girl would be the total minus this package, the total package. This girl would move in with him and shit.
Right. Yeah.
That should have been the biggest red flag, and then you would think she would tell her girlfriends, and they'd be like, get the fuck out. Yeah.
Yeah. My suggestion was going to be if he just has a small dick, just like if you wear meundies, it helps with the circulation yeah it's always a good dick day my husband bought way too much halloween candy and the deal was i'd hide it until halloween pass and he could have the leftovers no trick-or-treaters came to our house and i'm thinking of throwing 90 of the candy out for his own good because he does not need that much candy will this jeopardize our marriage yes don't do it at some point every every girlfriend turns into a mom i don't know when that happens but the way that like your partner looks at you eventually becomes more like a mom and it sounds like you've entered this where it's like you don't need all this candy he does need all that candy yeah you don't get to tell him what you're not his mom you don't get to tell him that he's not allowed to eat like oh no it's too it's past past your bedtime.
That's too much sugar for you. Last night, Halloween, I was like Jeannie Sachs going down to the washer and dryer.
When my kids went to sleep, I was just raiding the bags. No, don't look at me.
I'm trying, Johnny. Remember that scene? Yeah, and then the cop showed up at his house, and he tried to run away through the snow.
Were you taking doubles? Were you extincting his Reese's? Well, there was also, my son's three and a half. He has no concept.
We went trick-or-treating for maybe 30 minutes, and 10 minutes in, he was like, Dad, my bag is so heavy from all this candy. I looked in, there was like 10 pieces, so he won't know.
You want to know a little secret? You can just go out to the store and buy a big bag of candy.

Yeah.

And just have that in the house. He eats enough candy.

Like, we're adults right now.

We can, if I wanted to, I could go buy a giant thing of Reese's Peanut Butter Cup and I could

come back and I could eat it.

Disagree.

No, I could.

Disagree solely because Halloween candy tastes better than every other candy.

But it's still Halloween candy.

But it just, no, I'm saying free Halloween candy in the variety there's nothing Because you can I went Reese's to Twizzlers to York I just go and pack it It's not the same I've got a job I can go to the store right now And I can buy myself York Three Musketeers, Milky Way, Milky Way Dark Snickers It's not free and it's not halloween candy i can even get some sour patch kids and eat it all by myself it's not free halloween candy side note i guess we can just address this this is kind of a funny text uh i just got a text from a woman that works upstairs on the youtube side and she said hey quick question none of you pmt guys are part of sag right screen actors guild that's I just wanted to double check that. I'm not, but the way that they're asking makes me think that we should be to get more money.
It sounds like we could get... Yeah, something.
Wait. I think we're gonna be in a sizzle.
Billy joins a union? They're union busting us right now. Always Sunny episode, Billy joins a union? I think it's pretty easy to join that.
Well, you're gonna have to now. Yeah.
We have to act. Yeah.
In what? I can act. What do you think I'm doing right now? It's all a bit.
Billy! Nice. All right, last one? Yeah, we'll do last one.
One of the questions was just what are your thoughts on Andrew Tate? Memes is just laughing. Laughing it up over there.
We can. Maybe we'll do.

Billy can do a side chat with that.

He's like the guy spaces.

You don't do a Twitter spaces.

He's the guy with the thermal stock.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's Billy's personal hero.

No, he's not.

It's a top G.

I was acting.

I'd say yes.

You're confused.

Yeah.

I'm going to have to dive into this. He makes a lot of interesting points.
Hey, dad, cat, father of two, not a drug guy, PFT, angry Hank, that's an act, and Billy, thank you for your service. Please help me name my boyfriend's drunk alter ego.
Oh. We've been dating for four years, so obviously not a deal breaker at this point.
He's not normally an emotional guy, but every time he blacks out, it is full on sad boy hours. Oh.
Not sure what the cause is, but as the drinks flow, so do the tears. This is a well-known thing among our friends, so I think there is no way to stop it and we need to have a name for this drink and sad alter ego.
Also, shout out to Batgirl.

Needed more girl energy on the pod.

What about just John Feidelberg?

I got a buddy like this, and we call him Eeyore.

Oh. Now he gets sad.

I have one of my best friends in the whole world.

We gave him the nickname in college, and I'm still very good friends with him.

Biff, when he got drunk, because he just had an alter ego of tough guy. And he's just, it's great.
Cause he's Biff about crying Gosling. I don't know if he's like a dark and stormy guy.
Yeah. Why don't you just call him a bitch and then he'll stop.
No, I'll just keep crying. Oh yeah, that's true.
Yeah. He gets tear goggles.
a bitch? He gets tear goggles. Hmm.
Yeah. I like Eeyore.
Eeyore's pretty good. Eeyore's pretty good.
I feel bad for Eeyore. Yeah.
Well, he just always loses tail, man. He just needs a friend.
He needs better help. He has friends.
He just can't get out. Does he have friends? He can't get out of his stick house.
I think he's got. Everybody goes to see Eeyore.
He's got fake friends that talk about him behind his back. No, everyone goes to see Eeyore, and he just won't get out of his stick house.
This is actually genius, though, by this girl. Because once you name it, he'll stop doing it all the time.
Be like, is Eeyore coming out? Are you bringing Eeyore out? And he'd be like, no, I'm not Eeyore. Stop calling me Eeyore.
I actually think that a guy that cries all the time when he's drunk is actually more emotionally healthy than the tube sock guy. Yeah.
Oh, well, tube sock guy's a serial killer. Yeah.
Watch out for that guy. He is a dommer in waiting.
Okay. Numbers.
You're off sides. Yeah.
So 69. Actually, would you like 69? 15? No, you can have it, Big Cat.
All right. I'll take 69.
The rest of the process is important. 17.
I'm going to say, oh, man. 18.
Memes? Three? Three. So I can pick one now? Yeah.
That was a fair penalty. Yeah.
You jumped off sides an hour and a half early. I know.
I'm going to test something out. Billy just went home on Sunday night and was like, I got to come up with a plan to get 69.'re on to me They're also We're paying attention To the show But like you knew That that segment Was wrapping up So anytime a segment Is wrapping up You're like 69 Yeah That's acting 74 74 Alright Hank what was your number Have you ever gotten this 17 I have not ever gotten this No You've never gotten this I'm about to get it Right the fuck now Oh you are Yeah For those at home You wanna act tough about it Yeah There's no chance You're getting it right now For those at home 74 was at the bottom I'm going ever gotten this.
You've never gotten this? I'm about to get it right the fuck now. Oh, you are? Yeah.
For those at home. You want to act tough about it? Yeah.
There's no chance you're getting it right now. For those at home, 74 was at the bottom, and I'm testing if that is where it hits.
0% chance Hank gets it right now. And 18.
Bang. Jake.
Bang. Number four.
Yeah. Number four.
Jake. Jake.
Jake. Jake.
Jake. Jake.
Jake. Jake.
Jake. Jake.
Jake. Jake is a dynasty.
Best in the office. Incredible.
In your face, Hank. Wow, Hank, you were one off.
One off. Oh, no.
One off, and Jake just got it. Congratulations.
What did you just say? That was my fourth time. Fourth time? Yep.
Dynasty for sure. 15's eighth time, but I didn't pick them.
Love you guys. Love you guys.
That's it. Also a great number Right in Kyrie's face Wow

Yeah

I was going to say something

Sweet

So we've had

How many

So you've had it four times

Billy?

Five?

Five

I've had it twice

Twice

Max

Damn

Four times Jake

Wow that's a lot

We're putting on a fucking show

And Hank how many?

Oh you are

I have to go back and check

Oh you are

Jake is hot on my tail

He is

I need to start getting on the 69 back

Thank you. And Hank, how many? I have to go back and check.
Jake is hot on my tail.

I need to start getting on the 69 back.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's going to be tough.

I'm still not convinced you got it five times.

Yeah, yeah.

Because 69 has hit four times.

It seems like fuzzy math.

I got 21 once when I came back from Vegas.

It seems like fuzzy math.

We'll have to look at the books.

All I know is...

Wait.

When we do look at the books and just do an entire audit, can you find out if Hank's ever gotten it? Yeah. Okay.
Let me know. Please let me know.
Text me personally if he has ever gotten it. I'm actually starting to get worried now, Big Cat, because Hank's got to get it at some point.
No, he doesn't. And we don't have...
Wait, no. But we don't have enough time for us to get it, for him to get it twice.
No, PFT. He doesn't have to get it because he's never gotten it.
He's never going to get it. Love you guys.
Love you guys. Humans are the only apes without a penis bone because our reproduction time is shorter, which is an evolutionary tactic.
This is PFT. He's talking about it.
I'm talking away. I don't know what to say.
I'll say it anyway. Today is another day to find you.
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Take me

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Take me

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I'll be

Come

Get into your dreams

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Take on me.

Take me.

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