NFL Week 8 Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes, Kyle Shanahan's New Toy, Are The Vikings Frauds? Plus World Series

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On today's Pardon My Take, week eight in the NFL, we're going to recap it, fastest two minutes. We're going to talk about every game.
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Today is Monday, October 31st, Halloween. Week 8.
Spooky NFL Recap. There are lots of tricks and there are lots of tricks.
Check that candy for medals. We start across the pond where the game was on early

because England can't hang on to 1 p.m.

Travis Etienne Crumpets proved that not all Clemson first-round picks

in the 2021 draft are bust

as he rushed all over the Broncos' Guinness stout defense.

That's Irish, boom.

Same thing, Tiege.

It might as well have been a home game for DUI haver Melvin Gordon

I'm not kidding. bust as he rushed all over the Broncos' Guinness Stout defense.
That's Irish, boom. Same thing, Teej.

It might as well have been a home game for DUI haver Melvin Gordon, who's used to driving

on the wrong side of the road, and despite what the TV might say, the yellow line is

official when driving.

Mr. Unlimited proved that God is back on his side with a game-winning drive to win the

game, and they're saying maybe Nathaniel can hack it. Broncos 21, Jaguars 17.
To the Meadowlands, where back stateside in New Jersey for Patriots vs. Jets, a game that would have gone down a whole lot differently if Mark Wahlberg was there.
Ramondre the Giant Stevenson crushed the Jets' defense like there were 12-ounce cans of beer.

It's been one game with James 10 Robinson playing for injured Brees Hall,

and Jets fans are already saying,

I don't want to be here anymore. I think you should leave.

Last time the Jets beat the Patriots, Zach Wilson was in high school,

and his girlfriend was only 45.

Patriots, 22. The J Jets 17.
To Detroit where Jamal of America Williams had the roller coaster going up for the Lions in the first half with a pair of scores. Alec worth his weight in gold scored.
Jimmy two of two times threw a touchdown to Waddle. Touchdown to Waddle.
And Tyreek Henry Hill flashed his great Lufthanzas going for 188 yards in the win. And even though the Lions' ownership went to Billy Bats for Dan Campbell, he could end up in a trunk being driven out of town if the losses keep stacking up.
Dolphins 31, Lions 27. Some spread.

Some spread. In Minnesota,

where all the altar boys at the

Popemobile know that the Cardinals love

Road Dome. It's a black

Sabbath for Cardinals fans. As KJ

Ozzy Osbourne said,

Mama, I'm coming home to pay dirt

as Kirk Cousins was

sharing the rock. DeAndre the Giant Hopkins was catching touchdown passes with one hand, like there were 12-ounce cans of beer.
Vikings, 34. The Cardinals, 26.
In Atlanta, where P.J. Paul Walker brought the Panthers back fast and furious, only to crash and burn as his kicker, Eddie DeNiro, looked like he was broke.
In a touching tribute to Halloween, DJ Moore impersonated Ichabod Crane after scoring the game-tying touchdown, losing his head, and the game. And if you want to hear something extra spooky, Teej, this October, we're done with October.
The Atlanta Falcons are in first place. Falcons 37, Panthers 34.
Up to the Battle of Pennsylvania, where Ray J. Brown kept getting behind the rear of the defense, making the Steelers look like a car crash again.
The Steelers' lone highlight came in the first quarter as, Hey, wait a second, what brother is that? It's Derek Boone. Well then, let me be the first to congratulate our producer Hank Lockwood on cashing his bet from last January.
After a short 15 years, it seems as though the flash in the pan, Mike Tomlin Sanity has run its course. The Eagles, 35.
The Steelers, 13. In the afternoon slate, we head out west where quarterback Christian McCaffrey threw a touchdown.
As wide receiver Christian McCaffrey caught a touchdown and running back Christian McCaffrey ran for a touchdown? Oh, some game. As the Niners silenced the Rams, Ross Dwelly Kapowski looked hot in the Niners' offense as Sean McVay was seen on the sidelines screaming, I'm so excited, I'm so excited, I'm so scared, to face Kyle Shanahan again.
Niners 31, Rams 14. We go back east to Indianapolis, roof was closed by the way, Teach, where the commanders were pretending they were the Broncos having a quarterback do high knee key things on the way to a victory as Sam hold that Ellinger was welcome to the NFL Terry Bradshaw McLaurin isn't dead yet Mike Florio as the receiver went for 113 yards Jim or say something I'm giving up on you might done with Frank Wright, as it's a great big world out there full of coaches that don't suck.
Commander, 17. The Colts, 16.
Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston down in Nola. Such a fine sight to watch.

It's a goose egg, my lord.

It's time to cut the cord.

Josh got beat by a fire crotch.

Come on, Raiders.

You're worse than the Gators.

And the only bull you'll be invited to is the one the barber uses during the haircut that he gives for Mark Davis. Saints 24, the Raiders Zero.
Saints go marching. And that is the fastest two minutes.
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Week 8 in the books. We're watching the fourth quarter of the Packers' Bills.
It is erotic for me. I'm enjoying the hell out of it.
Yes, I know the Bills still have to cover the spread, but Josh fucking Allen, man. And he is.
It's just nice to be able to watch the Packers get embarrassed on Sunday night football for a change. Change of pace.
Josh is really good at running people over. And then after they've already been run over, trying to fight them on their way up.
Yeah. He doesn't play like a quarterback.
I would like to see Josh Allen play 5% more like a quarterback in terms of taking care of himself when they have double digit leads only. Nah.
I love he's just he is I know he'll never do it is he the most it's it's hard because in the NFL uh because football's obviously so popular and it's hard to like root for another quarterback but Josh Allen it feels like has the highest approval rating of any team that you're like isn't your team is kind of where us living on the internet. Yeah, that might be true.
It skews our perception about things because I saw a study that came out that actually addresses this very question. Oh, really? And the number one most liked player is Kirk Cousins.
Oh, get out of here. No, no, no.
Sorry. He's number two.
Number one, Russell Wilson. Okay, so this study doesn't make sense.
That shows you how our brains are warped, and hopefully if you're listening to this, your brain is also warped, maybe by us whose brains are in turn warped by the internet. That's a study that's not real football fans.
It's people who just casually watch football every now and then. If you watch Josh Allen, and I'm not even talking about like knowing his personality just the way he plays the game like running people over throwing absolute rockets downfield smiling through it all he had one play where he just ran it like 15 yards oh that's a shame the Packers got stuffed on fourth and one uh and he he ran out of bounds and then he just went I know this is very trivial but he just went along the sideline and started high-fiving all the fans.
I don't know. You know what? Let me rephrase it.
I don't think there is a closer connection quarterback to City right now than what Josh Allen has going on in Buffalo. That's probably true.
All right, so that would be my premise that I'll roll with. I could hear an argument for, obviously, Patrick Mahomes.
Brady in New England would have been the answer for a long time. But what other city? The thing with Mahomes is that he's got the wife and brother thing.
There's a little bit of division there. Which we'll never bash him for because we love Patrick Mahomes.
No, I know. I'm saying in terms of the city, there's people in Kansas City who roast Patrick Mahomes' brother, which I'm sure makes Patrick Mahomes in turn be like, that's kind of fucked up.
That's my brother. I think they still love him, though.
Yeah, they do. No, of course.
But I'm saying there's nothing in Josh Allen's negative category. I would put Baltimore and Lamar up there.
Yeah, but they've got a pretty close relationship. He's no Flacco.
But right now. He's not Flacco.
Something about Flacco. Something about Flacco.
Way towards that spiral. Right now, I would say it's not 100-100 approval rating just because he isn't signed to a long-term deal.
I think that. No, all fans want him.
I think that there's a good amount of Ravens fans that if Lamar was not re-signed by the team for whatever, they would take like a leave absence from cheering for the Ravens for up to a year until they got a good quarterback again. He definitely has a connection with a city that's high up there.
But Josh Allen, yeah, I don't think there's anyone right now. I think if you're a real football fan, you can't watch Josh Allen play and be like, I don't care for him.
Yeah, right. Russell Wilson, Broncos country.
Broncos, Russell Wilson. Yeah, we should do the inverse.
Yeah, what's the least approval rating? Probably Russell Wilson. I feel like Kyler is wearing thin in Arizona right now.
I'm going to say this, and this might be biased, but I do think there are a lot of Packers fans that are not super pumped about the way the Packers are playing. Maybe a little biased.
And Aaron Rodgers. Maybe a little biased.
And Aaron Rodgers having the amount of money that he has and, like, blaming everyone else besides himself. Based on the tailgate situation, I feel like Cleveland Browns fans really love Deshaun.
That's true. That's true.
Yeah, I think it's Josh. It's not even close.
Yeah, I think it is Josh. Yeah, right.
So that's the best way to – because you're right. Like, there is a lot of people out there that watch football and maybe aren't,, you know, tuned into what the bills are doing.
And they're like, oh, this Kirk Cousins guy seems like a really nice guy. Josh Allen, though, his connection with the city is better than any connection currently a quarterback to city.
Those are people who are who are casual fans who know most of their NFL players based off insurance commercials. Right.
Right. So, yeah.
So they're like this Patrick Patrick Mahomes. No, Patrick Mahomes, does he do insurance commercials? Yeah, he does state for them.
Yeah, he does. Yeah.
They're like, yeah, we love Chris Paul and Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers. Okay, so we will finish talking about this game when this game goes final.
Josh Allen just ripped another cannon down the sideline. Incomplete, but I will update the final when it happens because this game has been final one.
I would sit and just watch Josh Allen just throw balls. You don't even need to be people on the field with him.
It can just be him dropping back and just throw the ball 70 yards just on repeat. I would watch that.
And listen, if you're a Packers fan and you're going through it right now, hit up your boy on Twitter. I've football games i'm i'm here to you can cry on my shoulder because rogers is crying to all the defense in his own yeah no one likes him in this stadium his entire team the other team all the fans he's down bad but let's get into some games let's recap every game we got some great games to talk about and of course we're going to start with the lunder uh broncos 21 jaguars 17 i half tuned into this game and i'm very happy that i was half tuning in like i watched um portions and then i would have to go do some stuff and it felt like every time i tuned in it was just an interception and people being upset uh with either tre or Russell Wilson.
But Russell Wilson does get the job done with the big drive to win the game, and Trevor Lawrence is now back officially into the bus category. Yeah, in the words of Skip Bayless, we were wrong about being wrong about Trevor Lawrence.
Correct. In other words, we were initially right.
We should never have gotten off that take. Here's a fun little stat, courtesy of our good friend Uncle Chaps.
Fun Jaguars stats of the week. Fun Jaguars stat of the week number one.
The Jaguars are 0-11 when Trevor Lawrence throws an interception. Any interception is 0-11.
Here's maybe the most vindicating stat for us, Big Cat. Trevor Lawrence has the worst winning percentage of all number one picks through 25 games.
That's tough. B's a bust.
And he looks like the guy from the Dragon Show. The craziest.
Yeah, he does. The craziest part about watching Trevor Lawrence.
Fucking Aemond. Is that Aemond? Yeah.
That's the dude where, like, when Trevor Lawrence showed up to England, he should have seen that Russ's dragon was bigger and then just got the fuck off the island, right? No. Not quite.
Let's not spoiler anyway. But the opposite, but that's all right.
Also, I've officially given up on watching the rest of this season because I heard some fucked up shit happen, and I heard that the next season's like three years from now. 2024.
I'll pick it up then. That's one of those ones I'll pick it up then because I'll forget everything by then, so might as well just watch it fresh.
But Trevor Lawrence, there's just something about watching him play it like i don't know what he misses guys they're like guys that are wide open he misses easy throws he had the pick they were screaming on the broadcast because the interception that sealed the game was he was intercepted by a guy with it with a cast on yeah and they were like he's got a fucking cast yeah at him, remind him, like, you just got intercepted by Mega Man. Yeah, and he had the terrible red zone interception where it was just like his brain froze, and he's like, I'm just going to throw it and hope my guy catches it when his guy wasn't even close to being around.
I've actually figured out that a good percentage of looking the part as a young quarterback involves how confidently you throw the ball away. Yeah.
When you know that there's nothing that you can do, and you can throw the ball away so it's not intentional grounding, but make it look like you're doing it with purpose. Yeah.
Like fucking spike that ball into the ground at your receiver's feet. Peyton Manning was awesome at that.
Yeah, just frustrated, angry. Yeah, just a frustrated fucking drill and anthill with just a fire coming off your shoulder.
There's other guys that do do it kind of they're unsure of themselves when they're getting rid of the ball like they're thinking through the rule book as they get rid of the pass and those are the guys it's like your incompletion sometimes they it depends like how confidently you can throw an incompletion that means more to me sometimes than how sweet your actual look. Yeah, and his incompletions look terrible.
His completions don't look good. He also, like, Travis Etienne was awesome.
He now is the best draft pick they've had out of Clemson in 2021. Like, it was actually trading James Robinson.
I love whenever this happens to the NFL where you trade one player, and it's like, oh, maybe now we can give all the carries to Travis Etienne. Oh, maybe you should have been giving him all the carries because he's fucking electric.
Yeah, he's really good. And he kept you in this game.
I love that Jaguars fans have discovered something weird about Travis Etienne's foot too. Have you seen any of this? So they say that he has a duck foot on his right foot that might make him more susceptible to injury.
Okay. But his foot naturally goes off to the side, which means he can change directions going to his right faster than most guys can because his foot's at an angle.
That's crazy. So next time you watch him run, be on the lookout for Travis Etienne's duck foot.
Yeah. That just angles out.
As far as the Jaguars, I'm repulsed at myself i need to like a jaguars reminder jake that you need to give us like whatever whatever team that just historically stinks that shows flashes in the first three weeks of the season just wait just give it some time yeah because we're just back to the jaguars stinking and this is a really this is as down as you can be if you're a Jaguars fan because you have the guy that was supposed to be the next Peyton Manning. The surest, like, sure thing.
Oh, Josh Allen just threw an interception. And now the Packers are just throwing it backwards.
Rugby. And now we might not cover the spread, which would suck because then people are going to get on me and that's going to take away some of my joy.
Either way, Trevor Lawrence being bad is as low as you can get for a Jaguar.

Because you can suck, but when you have the number one overall pick,

and he's supposed to be a slam dunk, Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning,

all these guys, you can't miss, and then you might miss?

That's as rock bottom as it gets.

It's getting close to DEFCON three time for Trevor Lawrence

where he should consider cutting the hair.

He had Urban as a coach last year, though.

Yeah, but does that factor in at all?

Uncle Chaps addressed that in his post-game commentary

where he was shaving his head, and he was like,

this is, we're, we're, he was, he was buzzing his head.

He's like, you can't just keep saying he had Urban.

How long are we going to say he had Urban last year?

We're now into November.

It's not like...

Three weeks ago, you guys were like, the Jaguars are fun.

Did you not hear me?

I know.

I told Jake to put in a reminder.

Okay, so sometimes we're fucking dumb as shit on this show.

And when they played against the Jaguars, the Chargers, and the Chargers were missing, I don't know, like 77% of their defensive starters. Yeah, Justin Herbert could suck his own dick because he lost all his ribs.
They were playing against a preseason team, and they looked good in that game. And so me and Big Cat got excited.
I'm sorry. It felt fun to get excited about the Jaguars.
There are certain things that—so we've been doing this show, what, six years now? Almost seven. We've been able to experience a range of

emotions about almost every single

franchise that's out there. We've never been

able to experience, besides the Blake

Bortles run, but in recent memory, we haven't

experienced the Jaguars being

fun. So we naturally wanted to feel

that emotion. And feelings are never

wrong, Hank. It's just sometimes how you react

to them that are wrong. And facts don't care

about our feelings, and now we have some more facts

that Trevor Lawrence might be a bust. And

I will couch all this by saying there is still time Hank he still is on a bad team I just that was a gross game by him that was a gross game by him yeah like watching that game was disgusting to watch and he cost them a game that they easily could have won I need to find out what russell wilson did on the flight back i want to know if he was stretching if he was getting treatment done on the way home if he has any shame about the report that came out that he leaked i need to know yeah if he changed his uh his flight behavior on the way back okay i think we've actually gone to the limit of the russell wil. And not that he's still just a terrible personality, and every time he talks I cringe.
And he did the let's ride coming off the field. He also did the pregame prayer where he's standing there and all the cameras are on him, and it's like, what are you doing? There was one moment where I was like, hey, guys, I think we've gone a little too far because this is pretty normal.
He did the post-game prayer circle. That happens in every game.
Yeah, but did you see him? He was like, he was screaming. I know, but there were people who were like, the Jaguars are in that? Like, Russell Wilson? That happens every game.
It makes complete sense. Right.
And I'm sure that Russell Wilson looks at himself as like the quarterback of the prayer circle. Right.
So he's like, I got this, guys And then he closes his eyes and starts to talk to the real Mr. Unlimited, which is God.
And he's closing his eyes and he's screaming. He was like Packers just, or bills just picked off the pack.
He was sweating during his postgame prayer where he was, he was just yelling at God. If I was God, I would actually be so mad that Russell Wilson gives me all the credit.
Yeah. It's like, dude, you suck.
Stop saying that I'm doing all this. Yeah.
You're the one that stinks. Right.
Right. You're the one.
I want you to be better. You're the one that every, every teammate is like, dude, get away from me.
I'm just saying we, we want Josh Allen to be crediting me if I'm God. Yes.
We do this all the time though. And we're obviously absolutely guilty of it.
But when you go so far where you pick apart everything and then they're

doing like completely normal things,

I saw people roasting them for the prayer circle.

I was like,

wait,

that's a normal thing that every game has.

So we got to be careful because otherwise we're going to tire ourselves

out of,

and they want,

like it,

it does as,

as corny as he is.

If he wins,

it does change how you look at him. That's exactly what happened in Seattle for so long.
It's like, okay, he's a winner. Let Russ cook.
Winning cures all. Do whatever.
You can get away with anything in the NFL if you win football games. Let's talk real quick about the Broncos.
They're now 3-5 going into the bye week. AFC is going to be tough to make the playoffs.
They have the Titans, Raiders, Panthers, Chiefs coming up. Their defense their defense is so good yeah and they're probably not going to trade bradley chubb now it's all it's always crazy when you have these games we'll get to another one with the saints where it's like well if they lose this game probably going to trade one of their best players and if they win they'll they'll keep going and if you lose this game your coach might be fired yeah yeah when was the last time we got a coach that was fired mid-season of their rookie year? Their first time ever coaching.
Has that ever happened? Urban. Urban.
NFL. Yeah, last year.
Oh, shit. That was during the season.
Yes, that was. It was like week 13 or something.
Yeah. It was getting towards the end, but I can't remember this early.
Week eight. It was actually in discussion that Nathaniel Hackett could be fired.
The only other thing I had from this game was Greg Dolcich is awesome. And he's their rookie tight end from UCLA.
Fun name to say. Also feels like he might be the piece that...
Because he's just tall. Which Russell Wilson needs to get just all tall guys so he can see them.
But, yeah, I guess the Broncos, like, a little bit of a bounce up going into the bye week. This is great.
I just wonder if, you know, how some teams, they try to keep the guys around during the bye week, try to, like, get some extra reps in if they can. Russell Wilson's probably trying to recruit the guys.
Hey, guys, let's stick around. Yeah.
Let's get some. We're going to, listen, you can all come over to my house.
We'll have, like, sleepovers and we'll work 13 hour days and they're all probably like dude fuck you respectfully is he gonna i wouldn't be shocked if he flies to a world series game just to be seen it feels like he always always is in did you know maybe he was a baseball player at big cat yeah that's true so it might be that or it could be court side of the lakers which would be fun just because the lakers are never going to win yeah they don't win tonight what could what could russ be doing this week if there was uh the nwsl just had their finals i could see him going to like yeah a soccer game and being like a wnba game maybe yeah being front row i could absolutely see that so um yeah broncos jaguars it was just the perfect london game just sucked. And it was even the – like they scored – the under still hit, but the game just kind of sucked.
I don't know how Roger Goodell thinks that England can house two franchises if we just keep exporting the Jaguars to them every year. It's crazy.
I guess the NFL is just – we're just king. Yeah, we are king.
All right, so we have the 1 p the 1 p.m slate which was actually fantastic we had some scoring was back and we had some great games let's start with the most important game for this podcast patriots 22 jets 17 mr int is back in the building zach wilson with three interceptions. All pretty bad.

Actually, Hank, you won, so you get to start.

And you can steer us in whatever direction you want to go.

It was a gross game.

It was.

Billy and I drove in together, and it just shows how far the mighty have fallen.

I was driving in, and I was like, Billy, I think the Patriots are going to lose. I was nervous about playing the Jets, and then the game was gross.
We still won, but I didn't really get a lot of joy out of it. And the Patriots are just kind of a gross middle-tier team.
Wow, this is very humble of you. It's emotionally mature.
It's hard to care that like. I don't know how much of it is true because you were like narking to Big Cat that the Jets didn't post the final score.
You were taking like. It didn't.
You were taking a coward. People were DMing me to tell Big Cat.
So I was the middleman. You were a little bit happy.
And that to me would be a red flag if you were like super happy about the Patriots beating the Jets. It was one of those things where I was I was happy, but at what cost? Because I was nervous beforehand.
And it just kind of put it all in reflection of the fact that you were nervous about this before. It just shows how mid the Patriots really are.
But you won the game. We won the game.
And Mac Jones looked... I think we'll come in second in the division.
What did Mac Jones look like? Okay. Mid-ish.
Mid-ish?

No Sky Cam fires this week?

Mid-ish.

Yeah, but again, Bailey Zappi didn't look good either,

so it's just, you know, we are what we are.

Yeah, you are what you are.

I still think we should, you know, we've got to ride Mac out.

There was a great quote.

It's his job to lose.

By Ian Eagle during the game.

I don't know if you guys caught this,

but this was some next-level sabermetrics.

Ian Eagle said 95% of games in the NFL are are lost and not won i did hear him say that i still don't know what the fuck he was talking about but it makes sense that's trent dilford like i get no i know if trent dilford is teaching like algebra 2 yeah with his you cannot win in the nfl and lose at the same time this ian eagle quote this is like calc wait say it again 95 of games in the NFL and lose at the same time. This Ian Eagle quote, this is like calc.
Wait, say it again. 95% of games in the NFL are lost and not won.
Hmm. I think he's saying right there, oh my God, Josh, that hit the ground, right? He just threw an interception.
This game has gotten sloppy. This game has gotten sloppy.
I hope that hit the ground. I think what he's saying there is Zach Wilson throwing three interceptions and the way he played today.
The Jets' defense is very good. Yeah, that lost him to the game.
Yeah, the Jets' defense kept them in that game. I just don't know if the 95% figure, if that holds up to scrutiny or not.
This game, definitely. I'd say that this game, Mr.
INT'd the game away. Yes, he did.
Billy, do you agree? Look, I'm just saying, we just watched Josh Allen throw two interceptions. That was a bad pick.
That were both kind of in the same vein as Zach Wilson. So Zach Wilson's interceptions are up 27-10.
I know they're up 27-10. So you're saying that his misses look like Josh Allen's misses.
Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm going to defend Zach Wilson.
You're usually a little bit older. It's going to be hard.
Okay. But look, he threw for more than any other Jets quarterback has against the Patriots in the Belichick era.
355 yards. This is loser talk.
Two touchdowns. Yeah, wow.
Jake just clapped. This is Billy.
What kind of stat is that to be I know, Billy. This is loser talk.
I got more stats. I got more stats.
If that's the one you lead with, that's loser talk. He went 20.
You lost. He had to throw the ball away 15 times, and that reflects in his completion percentage.
He's 20 for 41, but he threw it 15 times away, and then that takes us to 20 of 29, three picks. Remember what I said about Trevor Lawrence earlier? Zach Wilson has maybe the worst throwaways of any quarterback.
So this is what I'm getting to. He's the worst.
He is the younger. When he has to intentionally miss a pass, most of the time he'll just throw an interception.
He'll be like, fuck it. Let looks great.
The thing is, when he's looking great, he looks awesome. But then he does this.
The way he's scrambling. 95% of the time when he looks good, he looks awesome.
I'm just saying, when you have to throw the ball away that many times, one time it's not going to go well. Just the percentage.
The percentage of misread. What happens on the others? Well, one was an arm punt.
Let me read a quote. No, that wasn't an arm punt.
Wait, wait, the 14-yard out that he threw to the sideline that got picked off? Yeah, that wasn't an arm punt. That's the worst.
That's an arm shank. I'm just so – basically, this is a quote from Zach.
So I think this might – this is actually hopeful because now that we hear how he's thinking about it, every time I get out of the pocket, it just gets frustrating to throw the ball away, said Wilson, who completed only 20 and 41 passes. That's what I've done for the last four weeks to put us in a good position to not turn the ball over for us to win.
So I need to keep doing that when something is not here. It gets old and getting out and not seeing anything there.
So he's basically throwing the ball recklessly because he's getting bored of throwing the ball away. Which is something.
One of them was like there was an open game. Certainly.
One of them was there. He was getting pressure in the pocket and he was trying to make a play.
Something that a type of interception Josh Allen just did. Yeah.
No, I'd say this is more like you're going down a path of Jameis without all the upside right now. He reminds me of a younger Carson Wentz.
I'm not saying a young Carson Wentz who is an MVP. I'm saying a younger Carson Wentz who it feels like every time he's like, I'm going to make a play, I'm going to spin, I'm going to throw it, and then his throws, sometimes he's throwing the ball into like he threw – one of those interceptions was into like four different Patriots that was like he just is hoping, similar to Trevor Lawrence, like I hope this works out.
Yeah. I mean the thing is the quarterback play is the weakest part of the team right now.
I was talking to Hank earlier. I was like, look, I think the Jets are a good enough team to beat the Patriots.
It's just I think we're going to see today that Zach Wilson with more pressure with Brees Hall out and injuries on the offensive line that he's going to really have to play to win. With that, we saw him try to play to win.
In the past, he had the support of a better offensive line and Brees Hall. Now, the curtain's been pulled out.
He wasn't defended by the whole offensive system and we're seeing what's happening but to that

if that Max Jones pick

six didn't get called back

it would have been a totally different game

it did suck for you we should say that

the game could have been 17-3 going into

the half and we would have been playing a much

different style of football but

what happened was that

didn't happen our defense wins

championships so it's not that crazy to depend on a defense to win you games. Just saying.
Does defense win championships, though? Defense wins championships. It's a very cool thing to say, and I've said it myself.
That's just facts. I'd say quarterbacks usually.
Quarterbacks. I'd say, like, I'm going to have to dig into the list of quarterbacks that have won Super Bowls recently, but I'm pretty sure it's, like, the best quarterbacks in the league i'm typically when no i'm i'm a i'm a you know i'm old-fashioned defense wins champions okay crazy so where are you at now with the jets because it does feel um it feels like that you know the patriots are probably the weakest they've been in a very long time and they still beat you um this is kind of why we push back when you were like i feel bad watching you guys and we're like dude we're all we're the same all of us here on this side of the table but it was still a pretty competitive game it wasn't like okay you know it wasn't a dumpster fire it wasn't a dumpster fire look i would see look in two weeks they're gonna play again i wouldn't be surprised.
They can win in two weeks. I like that.
I like that, Billy. Keep talking to yourself back.
They played the first time. Don't back down.
Sometimes me and Big Cat, what we do is – They did play the game. We try to beat you down a little bit, Billy.
No, I'm not beating him down. I am.
I'm trying to go. No, I mean, going into, like, last week, I knew setting up, you know, Sam Ellinger was going to start.
Jets were going to have a big test. I knew I might be in this deep place, so I'm just trying to stay positive.
I'm not trying to beat you down at all. I'm just asking you a question of, like, where are you mentally? Because as often is the case with our franchises, they're not when they have to step up.
And there's still a lot of season left, and the Jets still have a winning record. But when they have to step up in those big moments, like we said, these next three three games we're going to be if you go two and one Jets are for real for real and it stopped it started poorly the thing is all of his interceptions are caused by his uh certain play style and because of that and because they're so ridiculous it's almost like well you know you'll clean that up like that'll go away and that's the hopeful part of it like.
If he was throwing inaccurate passes that were getting straight, well, they sometimes are straight to the defender, but missing on crosses, missing throws instead of just doing stupid throws. You can cut out the stupid throws.
He even said he's getting bored of throwing the ball away. He wants to make a play.
You know what, motherfucker? Just fucking throw the ball away. Don't get coy with it.
Don't get cute. Basically, he's getting too cute with it and it's fucking up, turning the ball over.
Drives are getting stopped. He's trying to extend plays.
It's not always working, but sometimes it does. It's okay to be boring.
I think basically the one thing, if he's going to scramble, stop scrambling backwards. Start scrambling forwards.
He scrambles like I play Madden where I just run backwards 15 yards and hope someone gets open. You're absolutely right on that.
He's got to start scrambling forwards and maybe pick up the three yards instead of getting into those wacky situations where he ends up throwing these weird picks. I've noticed that his spin moves a lot of times take him back.
He's got learned to do a spin move and go either lateral or forward with it a little bit. But when he spins out of the grasp, he ends up usually drifting back five yards.
If I was his quarterback coach, and from my limited experience, and people probably disagree with me, if I'm him, you do the spin move, you get one more look at the field. If you can't see anything, no more extending the play and going to that back, like he goes towards the sideline, even farther back into that little pocket place where sometimes he does get good plays.
But if that first look, you don't get it. Start running towards the line of scrimmage.
Try to see if you can pick up yards. If you're going to get fucked, throw it away.
You know who you should take a lesson from is Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts is awesome at throwing the ball out of balance yeah he's really rockets it he fires the fucking pigskin out of bounds like johnny moxon now um billy i had uh i had two stats that i was just gonna throw out there and we're not trying to knock you down but um it's been 2499 days since the jets beat the patriots and the last time that happened part of my take was still three months away from the first episode.
And Billy was a junior in high school. Yeah, but Big Cat, when was the last time the Bears beat the Patriots? I was six days ago.
I was a junior in high school, and I was actually at that game. I think I was.
You should have gone today. It would have been different.
Billy actually did mutter that. He's like, if I had been there, it would have been different.
Well, you know, I would also blame me on not being able to go. It was one of those things where if you had came, it would have been better content.
You should have come for Billy. I could have said that it was a work thing.
If one person comes, it doesn't work. You know that.
I remember because I won my game on Saturday in high school, threw for like four touchdowns, 350 yards. Then the next day went to the Jets game and saw them win.
It was sick. So maybe it's because you're not playing anymore that the Jets stopped winning.
No. Yeah.
Because they lost. Either way, I'm actually a little surprised with Hank.
You seem very humble and resigned to the fact that the Patriots might not be that good. But doesn't it feel good that you still beat Billy? Yeah, but like I said, it was like the fact that we were even talking on the way in.
I now know what it feels like to be a team in the AFC East or the NFC North for the past 20 years or whatever. Where it's like, there's one team in the division that's significantly better and you're just kind of fighting for scraps.
You know what? Like watching this Bills game. It doesn't matter what happens to the Patriots.
That was going to be my last question. If we play them in the playoffs again, it's going to be the exact same thing.
You have to be careful that you don't get to a point where Jets fans can say, rent free, bro, after you beat them. you know like right now jets fans know better because

they're like yes obviously the patriot like the last time that we won a game against you guys billy was still good at football so they know how long of an era that's been all state but once you get to a place where they can they can accuse you of oh man you're you're so triggered at us because you think about us all the time that's what you need to avoid at all costs yes yes the jets beat the Patriots December 27th, 2015.

Oh, no.

Oh.

I was just looking that up. Shit.
So what was your game like that weekend? I think I got that mixed up. I remember going to a Jet game.
The Patriots won that one. But when did they play? October 25th.
When did they play earlier in that season? October 25th. That's when? The Patriots beat the Jets 30-23.
But what about when they played at home? The Jets beat the Patriots December 27th. Shit.
Okay, probably got that wrong. That's okay.
That's okay. But I still would have won if we went out of that game.
Yeah, yeah, right. If you had a game December 26th.
Okay, next up. Also, Hank, just a point of clarification.
We're going to get to the Dolphins, but you keep saying you're the second best team in the AFC East. Yeah.
When the dust settles. Okay, all right.
When the dust settles. All right, next up, Vikings 34, Cardinals 26.
I guess I have to say now. I had this circled on Friday's show as this is the game the Vikings will be proven to be frauds.
I was wrong. The Vikings won this game.
Kirk Cousins looked good. Kirk Cousins had a run for a touchdown where he reached 18 miles per hour, which is crazy.
And Kyler is still the most frustrating guy to watch. I still think they're frauds.
I do too, PFC. No, I really, really think they're frauds.
PFC. This is maybe the worst 6-1 team of all time.
Okay, I agree with you. And I have a stat to back it up.
Okay, ready? Yeah. Their quarterback is Kirk Cousins.
That's true. That's a fact.
So I agree with you, and I'm going to stick with it, but I'm saying I have to at least eat a little bit of shit when I pick the Cardinals I bet on the Cardinals I said this is a game the Vikings look like frauds and they come out and win now I could also say that the Cardinals could have won that game if uh uh who Dorch didn't fucking muff the punt when they were getting the ball back down two in the fourth quarter that sucked they also could have won the game if kyler murray didn't just throw the ball up a couple times for an easy interception that also sucked now here's something i have to eat some crow well i'll eat crow whenever i'm hungry i'm not hungry right now if you beat a fraud doesn't that make you a greater fraud too like if it's catch me if you can like a really really good fraud would know all the

tricks that other frauds do true the cardinals they're fucking fraud well i don't even think they're frauds because they stink but they're good just bad remember they were like eight and what were they eight and one eight no last year yeah yeah so but they're not this year they're not i still i still count the cardinals as like bad frauds they're like medium talented frauds Yeah.

The Vikings are the fucking Frank Abagnale of frauds.

Okay, listen, I'm... as like bad frauds they're like medium talented frauds yeah the vikings are the fucking frank abagnale of frauds okay i listen i'm i'm about to catch you're you're boosting me back up i'll stick with it i just know that i i was wrong on this game and you do have to play them next week they play at the commander so that would be nice if you could prove it all right this is my this is my this is my catch me if you can't your Your personal fraud game.
I'm Tom Hanks in this situation.

Yeah, it would be nice. It's probably

at 1 o'clock. It's 1 o'clock, so

you just gotta do it. You gotta do it.
You gotta go out there

and win that game. You gotta go out

there and win that game. I can do it.
I can do it.

I can do it. And listen, if they

beat the Commanders at home

next week, I'll take my

foot off the gas calling them frauds, but

I told Jake to set

a reminder in the calendar to not believe

Kirk Cousins, don't believe his lies,

like it's memento where you're leaving yourself

notes for the future. I've been

fighting myself tooth and nail

to keep myself from buying

into the Vikings. I know! Yes, Kirk Cousins,

he charmed me with his Midwestern

nice ways, but he's also

played very, very well. So I will give him credit.
Kirk Cousins has played awesome this year. The Vikings have played awesome this year.
I still don't believe that. No, I agree with you.
Like I'm not, and I would say most Vikings fans deep down probably think the same thing. Although there is that feeling going on in the NFC right now, besides, you know, maybe the Eagles and the Cowboys.
There's not a lot of teams that have looked incredible. So it feels gettable.
It feels like, oh, you know, you know maybe the eagles and the cowboys there's not a lot of teams that have looked incredible so it feels gettable it feels like oh you know you could maybe win one game and get in the super bowl here because there's not a ton of great teams out there but uh i will give them credit for this game because i thought they were going to lose it and the cardinals found every way every which way to lose it deandre hopkins back is like that that that's a one nice thing is that we expected the Cardinals to look different when DeAndre Hopkins is back they do Kyler Murray had a crazy day minus the two interceptions but he also had the first which I assume is going to be a long line of insult dances at his expense Patrick Peterson did um some I think it was some Call of Duty moves some video game moves he's pretending to play video games he's got a video game problem and then afterwards he was asked about it and he said I think it's called Call of Duty I'm not much of a gamer heard it just came out so I like that I like that we're now in the people are just going to start making fun of Kyler Murray when he fucks up yeah he's doing the meme where the stick figure walks into the room and he sees Kyler playing video games hey son, son, are you losing? Yeah. I like that.
And they were. It's funny.
Yeah, and they did. That's very funny by Justin Jefferson.
Yes. No, Patrick Peterson.
Patrick Peterson did. Yes.
So I think that the Vikings are a perfectly fine, nice team. They're enjoyable.
They do a lot of things right. They're fun offensively at times.
It's just a matter of we can do a visualization exercise just imagine it's the playoffs and the green bay packers are playing against the minnesota vikings the packers get a wild card spot the packers stink but the packers get a wild card spot as bad as the packers have looked at times this year and as good as the vikings have looked i would still bet on aaron rogers and the Packers in that game. I like that visualization.
I like to instead visualize Kirk Cousins and the Minnesota Vikings in their road. They're wearing road whites and very purple.
And they're going into Lincoln Financial and there's 85,000 000 bat girls screaming said in their face um that is a absolute ass kicking that would be an ass that's a shit pump or if they go if they go to san francisco yeah and just get their teeth okay this is good yeah or or they go to dallas and micah parsons is sitting there being like my cousins i'm gonna bend you in half Micah snaps him. He gets him in his spine and Kirk Cousins' head pops off.
Yeah, I'm going to absolutely punish you and then we get to watch that. I can go through any list of teams that are likely to make the playoffs in the NFC with the exception of maybe the Falcons.
I feel like the Vikings could beat the Falcons. Yeah, or the Panthers if they get in.
Or the Saints if they get in, or the Bucs if they get in. They will beat whatever team from the NFC South.
I'd agree. I'd agree with that.
So that's nice. We said something nice about the Vikings.
They have that, but every other team that I can envision in the playoffs right now would perform some level of torture on Kirk Cousins. Yes.
So 6-1, though. Nothing to see.
Can't apologize if you're a Vikings fan. 6-1 is 6-1.
They do have, I think, they play the Commanders. Then they have, we'll get the fraud test when they play at the Bills and versus the Cowboys.
That will be a nice test of, okay, let's see. Like, if they go 1-1 in those, I might have to rethink my whole fraud thing.
I might. I'm so dug in at this point that I think even when I know that I'm wrong, I have to keep doubling down like in Blackjack until I'm eventually right about him.
I like to give teams an out. Like, if you can do this, I'm giving you the challenge.
If you can do this, if you can go one and one against the Bills and the Cowboys, I will rescind my fraud label. If Kirk Cousins can win a Super Bowl and get Super Bowl MVP in that game, I will...
Yeah, still frauds. Fraudulent Super Bowl.
Bubble championship. Who are they playing? Yeah.
The Ravens. Oh, if they beat the Ravens? No, because the Ravens will probably be injured by then.
They'll have a shitload of injuries. No, that's fraudulent.
If they beat the Bills... Yeah, in the Super Bowl.
Or maybe the Chiefs. I'll crown them.
Maybe the Chiefs. I will officially crown them.
If they beat the Bills in the Super Bowl, Kirk Cousins doesn't even have to get MVP. Yeah.
I will say he's no longer fraud. If they beat the Chiefs, I need him to get MVP.
Yes. In order to take that label off.
Okay. These are all fair demands by us.
Yeah. And the Cardinals suck.
I'm sick of the Cardinals shit. They're in my sick of their shit tier in my power rankings that come out on Tuesday.
I'm sick of thinking that they might be explosive and fun, and then I watch the games and I just get bummed out. And I know they had some – it was a fun game to watch.
It was back and forth. There was some drama, points, all those things, but I'm just sick of their shit.
In terms of teams that bum you out, I'd say the Cardinals are definitely up there with both the Jaguars and the Broncos. Yeah.
Just bummer. Bummer organizations.
Just bum. Just big-time bummers.
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It looks like the Bills are just going to try to run out the clock. It's crazy chippy.
These teams, they have no reason to hate each other, and it's been personal fouls left and right. We saw a coach get pushed.
It's kind of fun. I don't know why it's's been so chippy i've wondered what the uh what the bills are gonna do and here we have stefan diggs getting into a fight yeah this is showing the clips right now and everybody loves stefan diggs i don't know why they're fighting him um but i've been wondering about the bills since they're so good and they're just decimating everybody how are they able to keep like keep their foot on edge.
And I think their foot on the gas technique is just they go into every game wanting to kill the other team. Like actually kill them, which is good, I think.
Look, they're just screaming at each other right now. We've had basically a pause in the game because they're all yelling at each other.
Billy. I don't think they want to kill them.
I think they want to clown them. Yeah.
I think like Josh Allen laughing at the other defense, they want to humiliate the other team.

It's like they get mad if they're not able to clown you.

Yeah.

It's like John Wayne Gacy style.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

I would have preferred if Josh Allen hadn't thrown that interception

on the goal line so the clowning actually did happen,

but this is still a decent result for me.

Also, I went to the game in 2013.

I was a freshman.

Ah, damn.

Okay, great. All right, next up, Dolphake dolphins 31 lions 27 two is really good still undefeated with two on the field playing a full football game i know he i know people show the underthrown passes but he was crazy efficient today the offense was crazy efficient there were nine for 13 on.
There were 3-for-3 in the red zone. I mean, he's just good.
This offense can hang with anyone. They beat Buffalo.
I'm not scared of a track meeting Buffalo. I like that.
They can do it. In the wintertime? You think snow on the ground? I like that talk.
I think they do play in December, but yeah. They could hang.
It's a good mentality to have, and I think that offensively, yeah. You guys, the nice thing about having Waddle and Tyreek Hill is even if you do underthrow him by five yards.
They're athletic enough to go. And they were probably open by 10 yards to begin with.
Right. So that's fine.
Dolphins are at Buffalo December 18th. Oh, that's going to be cold.
That's candy-ass uniform time. Tyreek is just absolutely insane.
He had 12 catches for 188 yards today. He's now on pace.
I know that 17 games changes a lot of these things, but he is on pace to beat Calvin Johnson's record of 1,964 yards. And he is – so Tyreek now has four games, 160-plus yards this season.
The rest of the NFL combined has four games 160 plus yards by a single receiver and I think in in those four games he's already tied like the Dolphins all-time record yeah for um number of 160 yard games by their own wide receivers yes he's on pace to set the all-time record as you mentioned he's on pace for. It's crazy.
So we've got to figure out what the equation would be for him to count that as the single season, no question about it, better season than Calvin Johnson. I would say if he can get to 2,075 yards, I would count that.
Yeah, he's got to get like 150 yards more. No doubter.
Yeah, he has to really put a stamp on that because that Calvin Johnson season was incredible. Yeah, but Tyreek Hill is just out of his mind right now.
And it feels like he didn't even score a touchdown. And he was just, every single time they needed a big play, every big pass, oh, Josh Allen, any over.
Ooh, that was a bad pass. Okay, That was a bad pass.
That was a bad pass by Josh Allen. I'm going to say it right now.
Um, there, the good news for Detroit is, uh, Dan Campbell after the game said they're close. He said, we're close guys.
We're real close. I got to get this figured out and man, I'm going to do whatever it takes.
I got to get this thing figured out and turned around. I don't know what I'm, what, but I'll do it.
The Lions were back for a half. Oh, they jumped out to a 14-0 lead? Yeah.
But it felt, to me at least, like it was the definition of a 0-0 ball game at that point. That did not feel like a lead that the Lions could hold off against the Dolphins.
No, and the Dolphins came out. I guess this is a testament.
If you can score 27 points in the first half, that's nice because then people won't realize you scored zero points in the second half. Yeah, I actually didn't realize that.
Until right now, right. Because you're like, oh, yeah, they had – I know they didn't score a lot in the second half.
No, they scored zero points in the second half. The Dolphins were able to just figure out how to beat them defensively and stop them.
So, yeah, it was tough to watch the Lions be back for a hot second, and then the Dolphins did what they had been able to do when Tua is healthy and run all over them. So, congrats, Jake.
Yeah, they're alive. And they have the Bears, the Browns, a bye, and the Texans.
That's pretty good. I have a blind resume for you.
Quarterback A, 65% completion percentage on the year, 12 touchdowns, four interceptions, 2,000 yards, seven games played. Okay, I like that.
Quarterback B, 70% completion percentage, 12 touchdowns, three interceptions, 1,678 yards on five games played oh wow quarterback

b sounds really good that's justin herbert and tua two is having a better year than justin herbert

right now yeah he is the last year everyone's like oh no did they pick the wrong quarterback

is it it is out so far this year yeah it is funny that like uh joe burrow doesn't i feel like joe

burrow because he's been to the super bowl and everyone loves joe burrow he doesn't really get

talked about with those two guys it just becomes a two of first justin herbert debate

Thank you. Like Joe Burrow doesn't – I feel like Joe Burrow, because he's been to the Super Bowl and everyone loves Joe Burrow, he doesn't really get talked about with those two guys.
It just becomes a Tua versus Justin Herbert debate. Yeah, because it's – And they were obviously picked back-to-back.
It's the eyeball test too. It's like Joe Burrow, okay, yeah, no question he's better than Herbert right now.
Although there is like a corner of the internet that is in love with Justin Herbert. Oh, I think Justin Herbert's very good.
I think he's very good, too. But they think that they would take him top three.
There are way more people that shit on Tua and love Justin Herbert when my point is not like, oh, one's significantly better than the other. They're pretty close, and you shouldn't shit on either of them because they're both pretty good quarterbacks.
I would love to have any of the three. Yeah.
Please. That's a fact.
That's a fact. Yeah, so the Dolphins, they're kind of back right jake feeling good yeah and i think if two it obviously big if but if he didn't get hurt like they would be at the top of the afc right now i like that yeah there's no reason it would be yeah jets it's impossible that would have been the only game i mean versus minnesota they could have definitely won that game and at the jets the jets played the Jets played really well that game, not taking away anything from them.
But, yeah, like after three weeks, you guys – not you guys, the whole world was talking about them possibly being the best team. When did you play the Jets again? Last week.
I think these rivalries. Last week.
Week 18. And that's going to be in Miami that time.
I mean, bulletin board material with the whole fans making the two of fingers. Yeah.
That's going to be a big-time revenge game for you, Jake. Big-time revenge game.
I've never seen Jake so upset about the fact that New York football fans were insulting to his injury. Yes.
Crazy. Okay.
Next up, Cowboys 49, Bears 29. Craziest, I would say, like total of the day.
You didn't think this game was going to be this many points. Yeah, the Bears got absolutely gashed defensively.
The Cowboys came out four touchdown drives to start the game. It was as easy as it could ever be.
They ran 6.9 yards per rush on the day. That's bad.
It's bad. That's really bad.
Shout out Tony Pollard. Tony Pollard was electric.
Welcome to the Tony Pollard bandwagon. As we've been saying, I'm no expert.
I don't watch film for a living. I watch football on TV for a living.
But when I watch Tony Pollard run with the football, to me, he seems just about as good as Ezekiel Elliott. If like exactly as good as ezekiel elliott yes keep giving him the ball he's hungry right now um feed the guy yeah he's fucking good he's electric yeah and uh all right so this is gonna sound like loser talk but i'm just gonna say it anyway that was i can't be mad about that game like people were like oh you got clown today theowned today.
The Bears' defense was terrible. They can't tackle in the orange helmets.
I'm convinced of this. That's manalytics.
They look like traffic cones or practice cones, which if you grow up playing football, they put orange things on the field. You spend your entire life learning how to dance around the orange things.
It's a terrible look, but Justin Fields has looked great. Now, outside of, I would prefer, I'll say this, I would prefer my quarterback when there's a turnover to not jump over the guy who gets the ball than letting him score a touchdown.
That was a bad look. Micah Parsons recovering a fumble, and then Justin Fields avoiding touching him while he's on the ground, and then having Micah Parsons pop up and score a touchdown.
We've got to clean that up. In terms of the actual quarterbacking play, he's looking so much better than he looked at the beginning of the season.
Yeah, the offense is fun. And I was actually going to ask you, as the only question I had about this game, is this maybe the perfect way for this game to turn out for you? Yes.
Where your defense, which you know is sus to begin with. Just trade Robert Quinn.
You got rid of your captain. Yeah.
So you know that you stink on defense. You lose the game, which you'd probably prefer to lose ultimately if you're going to be looking at draft picks.
Yes. You want to lose the game.
Your defense looks bad. Your offense still looks like it's making improvements on where it's been in the past.
That me seems like a win-win for you it's essentially how how i break it down is if if the bears lose and justin fields is making uh taking steps forward i can live with that all season long because the bears are not a very good team their roster is not very good i know that they're not going to be a playoff team so all i care about is justin Fields now if it's a loss where like the the the Bears have a chance to win the game late like their loss against the Vikings when uh whatever his name is Emmitt Smith or whatever fumbled right Justin Fields having a chance to win games with late game drives I don't want to rob him of that like you know what I mean like if there's that opportunity where he can go prove something, I want that. I want them to win that game.
Same thing happened with the Giants. Velas Jones muffed a punt when they're down eight to get the ball back with like two minutes left.
That was a robbed opportunity of Justin Fields trying to win a game. But this game, he looked good.
The defense looked bad. Better draft pick.
There's no – it really does not affect me because i don't know what it is what he what has clicked in his head but the way he's throwing the side arms uh yeah the launch angles are different he's he's getting the ball out he's going through his reads some of the the play calling the designed runs like hey this guy's a freak athlete maybe we should run the ball with him yeah it's all all starting to feel like it's coming together, and I'm excited. I'm very, very excited.
I think the ultimate end of a game scenario for you would be if they were down by six points, Justin Fields takes them on a touchdown drive. You guys score touchdown, game's tied.
Your kicker goes out there and misses the extra point, and then you kick off to them in overtime. They drive down and score.
So Justin Fields had a game winning drive but the rest of the team let him down you end up losing the game anyways the only note I have for Justin Fields is I would like to see him smile occasionally I don't think I've ever seen him actually happy I think he just wants to win very very badly I think he's one of those guys but even against the Patriots that was a win. I actually prefer the way that he doesn't, even if he plays well and the team loses, he's upset.
I like that. Just smile more, baby.
I like that. So, yeah, I'm very happy.
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I'm just going to throw it out there. 2021 draft class.
First round. Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones.

Which guy right this second is playing the best football?

Who won today?

Which guy right this second is playing the best football?

That's all I'm asking.

I probably have to go with Mac then.

I'm going to go.

Just recency bias.

All right.

All right.

That's fine.

That's fine.

I was just asking the question.

I wasn't even giving my opinion. I'm going to go Trey Lance.
Okay. Okay.
Trey Lance looked good until he got hurt. I'm just asking the question because the last few, like, last about, like, three weeks, Justin Fields, there have been a lot of promising things.
Davis Mills. Yeah, Davis Mills.
I just, oh, man. They're just starting to realize, like, hey, this guy is such a good athlete.
Let's run him. They even said it.
They admitted it after the Patriots game that they took some plays from the Baltimore Ravens playbook. It's like, no fucking shit.
Why didn't we do that? I would be concerned that it took this long to figure that out. I'm going to say something really crazy.
If Matt Nagy was smart enough and he had run Justin Fields like they're doing the last few games he'd probably still have a job I don't know why sometimes coaches can't figure out hey this is what his skill set is let's adapt it to him instead of doing the opposite I get the vibe that Matt Nagy didn't want Justin Fields so it was like a big he was like throwing a hissy fit doing a protest he's like I'm not gonna run going to run the offense. You want me to run this guy.
Right, right. So, yeah, I'm very happy.
The Cowboys look great. Their defense kind of got gashed, too, because we've run for over 200 yards in three straight games.
But Dak looked good. Tony Pollard looked great with no Zeke.
I just, yeah, I'm walking away from this game, and I can't be that bummed out. I know that probably some people are like, want me to be, ooh, you know, doom and gloom.
This sucks. I'm being as honest as I can be.
So I'm a happy guy right now. On the other side of the football, Dallas Cowboys, what is like success this year for Mike McCarthy to the point where he won't get fired? Oh, that part sucked, by the way.
Mike McCarthy laughing in the Bears' face because he's just so fat and gross. But what's good for him? I don't think he necessarily would completely save his job just by making the playoffs.
I think he needs to get to the NFC Championship game. You're probably right.
I think he needs to get to thec championship game because yeah because you're expected to win although he would be on the road both games because if the eagles win the nfc east yeah and the kick goes out uh the bills win by 10 so whoever got 10 great whoever got 10 and a half pft congrats thank you um i still was happy i did win the bills first half i wish they had just you know josh allen shouldn't have thrown that interception at the end. That's all.
I think for the Cowboys it comes down to how they lose in the playoffs. Right.
I think that they could make it to the NFC Championship game, but if Mike McCarthy does a thing where, like, you know, he tries to run a play with 13 seconds left and there's only enough time to run a play if there's, like, 17 seconds left on the clock, If they lose in a comically fat fashion for Mike McCarthy. Where his brain just stops.
If he looks extra fat while they lose because of a brain boner that he has, I think then Mike McCarthy will be fired no matter what in the playoffs. Unless it's the Super Bowl.
I could see Jerry keeping him around if he makes it to the Super Bowl no matter what. Yes.
But if it's even in the NFC Championship championship game if he loses to like a skinnier hey oh god if he lost to like sean mcveigh in the nfc championship game because mike mccarthy does something where his fat impedes his own brain right well well mcveigh is looking all gelled up and greased on the other side yeah i could see jerry jones firing him i'd agree with that i'd agree with that um okay so yeah i mean the the Cowboys are definitely in the contenders, wouldn't you say, in the NFC? Yep. Next up, Falcons-Panthers, the sneaky, funnest game of the day.
Who would have thought? It was a great game. It was an awesome game.
Oh, Aaron Rodgers. Oh, okay.
Is Aaron Rodgers not shaking Josh Allen's hand? No, they did a minute ago. Oh, okay.
I was about to get on my high horse. Start going after people.
They're still jawing after. Oh, no, that's love.
All right. Falcons 37, Panthers 34.
This game was so much fun. 44 points scored in the second half.
P.J. Walker with an absolute dime to D.J.
Moore with 15 seconds left, like 60 yards. And then D.J.
Moore takes off his helmet. Penalty.
Eddie Pinheiro misses the extra point over time. Marcus Mariota throws interception.
Panthers are going to win again. Eddie Pinheiro misses the field goal, what, 34-yarder? The Panthers should have won this game.
I bet David Tepper just slipped him like a few grand for missing those games. Dude, they would have been in first place in the NFC South.
That's true. They're frisky.
That's true. And the Falcons deserve credit because they're very injured right now.
Like you could tell their defense is very injured. But it was crazy because you thought both these teams aren't that great.
And I don't know. The Panthers are not an easy out anymore.
And the Falcons are the first-place team in the NFC South going into November. I love that division.
That division is crystal meth personified. It's crazy because we talked about the Falcons last week on this show, and I've spent precisely one week as a Falcons supporter.
And I don't know how people from Atlanta do it. It's like if you adopt the Falcons as your team you're the guy that gets a weird pet that gets like a porcupine in your own house.
And it's like, oh it's cute. Oh it's just gonna cause me severe pain all the time whenever I try to touch it.
This sucks rooting for the Falcons. It's gonna be tough.
And this game at the end of it, it was a contest to see which team was the most Falcons. It was the Falcons were really Falcons-y at the end there when they let the Panthers come back on that Hail Mary.
And then the Panthers turned into the Falcons by missing the extra point after the 15-yard penalty. Then the Falcons became the Falcons again when Mariota threw that pick.
And then the coup de grace was the Panthers becoming the Falcons again, missing the Eddie Pinheiro kick. It was so bad.
And I want the Falcons to win the NFC South. I think it would be hilarious and awesome, and we like Arthur Smith a lot.
I did bet on the Panthers plus four and a half this game, so I was rooting for the Panthers when it felt like they were about to give up the game in a horrific – like they were – this game was close the entire time, and then they had the let's go for it on 4th and 17 on our own 10 and then give the Falcons a field goal. But, yeah, I don't – I hope the Falcons can sustain it.
I hope they get healthy. I don't want to see – I want the Bucs to not make the playoffs.
Like that's fun. And guess what? Right now, if the season ended right this second, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers would have the eighth pick in the draft.
Isn't that crazy? It's nuts. So I'm rooting for the Falcons.
It does feel like the NFC South has like ten more twists and turns. It would have been fun, too, seeing the entire division be three and five.
Yeah. That would have been an awesome box score.
I was rooting for a tie just because of that. I mean, yeah, a tie would have been perfect in this game.
This game, you know how week one we said that we're awarding a tie to the Bengals and the Steelers? Because there were some wacky missed kicks at the end of that game too? Yeah. I think that's what happened, right? Joe Burrow against Mitch.
I think we gave them a tie. So we can give this our second part of my take tie of the week.
We can award a tie to a team that ended up losing each week.

So congratulations to the Panthers.

I'm going to count this as a tie for you guys.

I didn't remember where I knew Philip Walker from,

but he was the best quarterback.

We call him Philip Walker, PJ Walker.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So yeah.

Last week, remember he and Taylor Heineke and PJ Walker beat. Walker beat Aaron Rodgers.
XFL Legends beat Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. Yeah.
Yeah. Crazy.
Yeah. He's awesome.
I like him. And you could tell, too, the whole team likes him.
You know what I mean? And they're playing for Steve Wilkes. They're playing for P.J.
Walker. I like it.
Panthers are going to be a fun team. Yeah, they're not an easy.
Like, you go through these ebbs and flows. Vibes matter in the NFL.
Yes. Yeah.
And that rule was bad vibes. Very bad vibes.
Steve Wilkes, great vibes. Yes.
You go through ebbs and flows, and, like, you can pick teams. You're like, oh, this team's going to be really, really bad.
I think the Texans have finally reached their final, like, resting point of just being the worst. But the Panthers, they'll pick off another team at some point this year.
Because they are feisty and they play hard, and their defense is not terrible. They're like a trap game.
They're like a trap game every week. Yeah.
I think every team that plays against them for the rest of the season is going to overlook them to a certain extent. Yeah, exactly.
Okay, so I now have Packers fans being like, it wasn't the ass-kicking that you thought it would be with the Bills.

That's loser talk, Packers fans.

Welcome to my world.

You're basically happy that you didn't get completely embarrassed

in the second half.

You or me, we're the same.

A loss is a loss.

I fucking love that.

Okay, speaking of the NFC South, let's stay with it.

Saints 24, Raiders 0.

So we have six TVs here.

We realized that one of the quad box they usually put on was ahead of the other TVs.

So we had to say we've got to eliminate one game from all the TVs.

We eliminated this game.

And God damn, we'll rewrite. Because I didn't even realize this.
I went back and I looked the Raiders didn't get past the 50 yard line until three 15 left in the game. That is some like early season, uh, sec versus max school.
Shit. Derek Carr didn't run a single play in Saints territory the entire game.
It's insane. They had, if you take out the garbage time, it was 24-0, and they brought in, who did they bring in? Oh, Stidham.
Stidham came in, and they drove almost to score. If you take that drive out because it was completely meaningless with like five minutes left, the Raiders had nine first downs for 119 total yards of offense.
Nine first downs, yeah. For 119 yards of offense.
And they had a shitload of three and outs in the first two quarters especially. They couldn't do anything offensively.
Here's a fun little stat, Big Cat. Okay, let's hear it.
Josh McDaniel. I think it's time that we have the national Josh McDaniel conversation.
And we can zoom out a little bit on that too and look at it more as like a Bill Belichick assistant coaches conversation. But for now, we'll start with Josh McDaniel.
If you take away the six-game winning streak that started McDaniel's career as a head coach for the Broncos, what do you think his record is as a head coach? It's bad. It's 6-20.
6-20. 6-20 twenty not good and the reason why i'm okay with with saying after that six game start to that season because his players have come out after the fact and said we were cheating we were videotaping our opponents practices and that's what we were using to get ready for games we got a letter telling us to stop that so we had to stop cheating so without cheating mcdaniel mcdaniel's is 6 and 20 as a head coach um if you look at belichick's former coaches yeah that have gone on to coach in the nfl their winning percentage is 41 not good they're a combined 225 319 and one so that's a pretty big sample size that's not just like two or three guys.
225, 319, and 1. Do you know who the best coach has been? The best head coach that has been a former Bill Belichick assistant coach? Hank? Do you know? I would say, no, Romeo had a...
Is it Bill O'Brien? Oh, is it Pete? No, no. Did they make the playoffs a few times? It's Bill O'Brien.
Bill O'Brien. Bill O'Brien.
The Texans did. Good call, Jake.
Bill O'Brien was 52-48. And he's the best one.
Just something to think about there. That's nuts.
I don't know what it is. I've maintained for a while that Belichick just sends off these satellite coaches to go ruin other teams in the AFC and just destroy him to make it easier for him to win Super Bowls.
It's nepotism. Nepotism.
That's why they're playing bad. That's why the Patriots are playing badly now? Yeah.
You said it, not Mike. Interesting.
Well, no, I just think that what you just said proves the exact opposite. That Belichick is the secret.
Yes. And his brain is the secret.
And the coaches underneath him. And he doesn't give the secret to anyone.
Or Ernie Adams was the secret. Because Bill Belichick can't replicate.
And if he is going to give the secret to anyone, probably his sons. There are certain things that you just can't replicate.
And just because you spend enough time around a guy doesn't mean that you're going to be that guy when you go out on your own. Yeah.
Remember we asked Julian about it? Yeah. And he was like, yeah, a lot of guys try to be Belichick when they move into the new places and they just can't do it.
Yeah. Yeah.
They can't do it. And this was like the Raiders coming off.
I know it was the Texans, but they were coming off a win that it looked like everything was kind of coming back together off of a bye week to get a goose egg and to have that. Derek Carr is injured a little bit, but he has a back.
We all have backs, but he has a back. He's a bad one.
Waller's out. Devontae Adams was sick, not making excuses because you, the Saints defense, they look like the Saints defense we all expected today, but they have not been that defense all year, and you got 119 yards of offense.
This is whopping. With your first-team offense.
It was whopping. An absolute whopping.
This was a signature loss by the Raiders, whereas before I was like, oh, the Raiders. I like that.
I like you said that. Signature loss.
They can play with anybody before this game, right? No, my pinky's fine. Now I'm like, this team fucking stinks.
This is a signature loss. They put their name on this one.
I do think that just Derek Carr and Andy Dalton in general gave off big. Like, either one of those guys could end up having at least like a two or three year career starting for the Colts.
Yeah. Maybe next season.
Andy Dalton is a fine. Nice guy, right? Nice guy, Andy.
The game was over when Jameis Winston did that rap. The rap was incredible.
The rap, absolutely. Like the raiders probably heard that and they're like well it's like they saw the dragon right hank and then they're like fuck that i'm turning i'm getting the hell out of here i still want to get james on pardon my take i hope he does come on someday we can't play it for a season this can you just wrap it for the for the listeners who might not have seen the clip you want to wrap it pft my name is james winston and i'm here and I'm here to say I got banned from Uber because I grabbed her on...
No, I don't know. I don't know what the thing was.
All right. Do you know it? No, I was saying we would...
We'll just put it in, I guess, but I was asking if we could avoid the copyright. You could just...
It's a lot like the Malcolm Kelly freestyle after the Big 12 championship. Okay, well let me look up the malcolm kelly freestyle what what jamis was saying uh he did it i think he did the podcast with i think mark ingram and someone else in the saints has a podcast jamis was talking about eating the dub yeah and i realized like he just he's a leader even though he's goofy he was like yeah i really ate that dub and and they're like yeah it was kind of it was kind of weird and he like paused i was like no no but i i ate that dub like i meant it and he's just i just love jamis so much and yeah the saints are they i this is another game similar to the the denver game we're talking about with bradley chubb there were rumors that uh alvin kamara is going to get traded yeah so the bills inquired the eagles inquired which i would love for the eagles to do it just because the eagles would essentially just trade back the the pick that the saints traded them that was what it would be for the saints this the e Eagles have the Saints first round pick in 2023.

It would be hilarious if they're like, give us your best player and we'll let you have your pick back.

Would be a very funny trade.

That would be good.

But either way, Alvin Kamara was incredible today.

He did it all.

Three touchdowns. He had that one touchdown where he scored and they were like Raiders were bouncing off of him and he just didn't even flinch.

And he was just standing up.

They were all like launching themselves at him and he was just standing up and casually put the ball over the goal line. This guy is awesome.
The Saints should not trade him. Yeah, no, I agree.
And they said that they talked to the Bills, but the Saints rebuffed the Bills. Yeah.
Which I don't – I'm not – when we say like the whole just one ball thing, I don't always believe it. It's something that's fun to say.
I do feel like there's something to the Bills offense and the way that it's running right now. Incorporating a guy like Kamara who does need a shitload of touches to get going.
Yeah. That might derail what the Bills are doing offensively.
Yes. It could happen.
Yes. It might be one of those blessings like, you know, God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers.
And I see, Max, you're just shaking your head. You don't want Alvin Kamara on your team? I don't want to give up a first-round pick for overpaid running back.
Okay. All right.
So there it is. He is very, very good, though, just so you know.
Yeah. He's actually the first player with 10 games having a rushing and receiving touchdowns in his first six seasons.
No other player in the first six seasons of their career had a rushing 10 games with a rushing and receiving touchdown in the same game. He had two touchdowns on the ground, one in the air, 158 total yards.
He was their entire – Alvin Kamara beat the Raiders by himself. His his offensive output was significantly larger than the raiders first team offensive output because they scored zero points and had 119 yards that's how crazy this game was we got a little taste some hill action today yeah which was nice yeah yeah so either way good credit to us because this game was the best game to not have on tv yep no it was we we absolutely nailed it, next game.
Hank, do you have the lyrics yet for the James Winston thing? No, copyright. No, just put it in.
Yeah. Okay.
Here we go, man. Meat and she.
They're my JJ. Doing everything.
We're going to have it our way. No burger king.
I'm talking about team. New Orleans Saints.
You know what I mean. We got to represent the city up in here.
We're doing and i'm like shit it's here i gotta go hard yeah i gotta go in and all we gotta do is get a i hope you got that we're in here let's go uh next game we will talk about your eagles max eagles 35 steelers 13 this was an ass kicking this was I feel bad for the Steelers because they kept on it looked Jalen Hurts hitting AJ Brown on the go route for three touchdowns in the first half they they looked identical plays and they just he kept on just dropping it in a bucket to AJ Brown AJ Brown would have two three Steelers on him and it was so easy, and it was one of those games that it felt like if the Eagles wanted to win by 100, they could have. They kind of took their foot off the gas, but I always give credit to teams that don't have those letdowns against inferior opponents, and they just kick the shit out of the teams they should kick the shit out of.
Yeah, I think Roger Goodell needs to take a look the taunting rule in the nfl because they called aj brown for a taunt when he he caught touchdown pass the two guys tried to tackle him bounced off him fell on the ground aj brown was just standing in the air and he points at both of them he goes you couldn't guard me you couldn't guard me very simple matter of fact stated facts to the people and then he got a flag called on him goodell likes to officiate things like if a hundred drunk guys in a bar think it's a catch then it should be a catch by the rulebook a hundred drunk guys in a bar watch that play yeah and they see him point at the guys be like i beat you i beat you yeah 99 drunk guys would be like that's fucking awesome yeah don't flag that don't flag it don't i want a public i want a public apology from you know how he likes to leave notes in people's lockers being like, hey, you had a great game, Tyreek Hill. Let me get that piss.
I want a note left in A.J. Brown's locker being like, upon further review, that kicked ass.
Yes. Sorry.
He was just pointing out a fact. Yeah.
I own you and you. You can't guard me.
This is the third time we've run the same play and you haven't done anything to stop me. Yeah, he's lucky he didn't do anything worse than that.
It was. I think that was the third one.
He showed tremendous restraint. It's the same go route and the same perfect pass from Jalen Hurts for a touchdown, and he's just like, you and you, go home.
And actually, Mike Tomlin benched one of them. Yeah, so he did them a favor.
He was telling – He pointed out, he's like, Mike, these guys cannot guard me. That guy can't guy can't guard that guy on the ground he can't guard me mike what a gentleman he was being nice yeah that was a that was a total shit pumping um i've got a stat here okay um eagles second quarters this season oh yeah this is an updated stat because i saw that field yates tweeted out some old numbers at the start of the day, so I personally updated it.
The Eagles in the second quarter this year, they've scored 126 points. The Steelers, in total this year, have scored 120 points, and they've played an extra game over the Eagles.
So the Eagles are just dominant in the second quarter. Dominant.
They're absolutely dominant. Not so great sometimes in the second half, but they don't need to be.
They just get up huge on you, and then they just play smart football in the second half. Max, you're probably – are we greasing up the telephone poles? Are we just going to leave the poles greased from after the Phillies win the World Series until the Super Bowl? No.
I mean, I'm worried about a baseball series right now that was perfect. Like, go take care of business.
Don't worry about the game. Beat the shit out of them.
And let's go win a baseball series this week because it was beautiful. Oh, this is just a blip on the rail.
Yeah, you didn't even have to chill on your brain. I didn't even think about it.
I walked in and I saw Jalen Hurts, A.J. Brown, two tutties back-to-back.

I'm like, all right, we're good.

Let's calm down.

Let's get ready for this week because the birds are going to take care of business

and it's going to be fine.

And Mike Trout was there?

It was.

Yeah, Mike Trout was there.

It was like the Eagles went down and scored.

And you're like, okay, this is going to be easy.

Then the Steelers did a little frisky stuff.

They had to chase Claypool to Derek Watt touchdown. Congrats, Hank.
You cashed your bet. That had to feel nice.
Yeah, totally. Is Chase Claypool actually left-handed? I don't know.
I can't figure out if that was – the way that I have to imagine Steelers' offensive meetings are going now is basically like a brainstorm session. They meet in a room that's got a bunch of beanbags, and they say, okay, there are no bad ideas here.
Let's try to rethink everything that you know about how to play football, and we'll try whatever you want to try right now. Yes, just give it to us.
But it was funny because the Steelers went on a long drive, scored a touchdown with these trick plays, and it felt like the Eagles were like, oh, okay, so you guys actually want to try a little bit? We'll just do this then. And then they just did the same play two more times in the first half, and that was it.
It was never – they never looked back. It never felt in doubt.
The Eagles, I know people are going to say they haven't played anyone. I would push back and be like the Cowboys, even with Cooper Rush, their defense is still very good.
And the Vikings are the second-best team record- NFC right now and the Eagles shit pumped them. But yeah, this one was not, it wasn't fair.
It wasn't fair. The Eagles play who they play and they've beaten the fuck out of everybody that they played.
And if you look at their schedule for the rest of the year, they're not playing a whole lot of great teams. They're not, they don't do their schedule.
So they play the Cowboys in Dallas. I like that.
They don't do their schedule. They don't make it themselves.
They play the Cowboys in Dallas. They're hosting the Packers, and besides that...
Titans. Titans, I think.
Because it's track or cedo season coming up. Started today, I think, but we can get to that later.
Yeah. And they have the Super World Series Mega Week in Houston.
Yes. Short week.
The Super World Series Mega Week. I like that, Jake.
Yeah. Assuming the series goes back to Houston.
The Super Mega. Yeah.
You know what sucks, though? We're not going to get an announcer talking about like, oh, I took the monorail from Minute Maid Field. Right.
Out to NRG Stadium or whatever. Works out for the fan, though.
It does. Yeah.
That's important. Yeah, it's going to be Philly takeover in Houston on Thursday.
If this series gets back. We got to get – yeah, maybe the Phillies will just close out.
We'll talk some baseball a little bit later. I know that you're on high alert, very nervous.
But, yeah, this game didn't have much more other than – the Eagles are very, very good, and the Steelers, it feels like they just shift each week to see which wide receiver is pissed off. I saw Claypool was throwing his helmet at the end.
I'll say something nice about Pittsburgh. I love the city of Pittsburgh.
They're not used to losing like this because they are losing, and they are losing badly this year. I mean, it's going to be Mike Tomlin's first sub-500 season.
Yeah, and the way they're losing, it's welcome to the rest. Welcome to our side.
It's nice having someone have to dip their, Hank kind of did it at the beginning of the show, having other franchises have to dip their toes into the bad side of the NFL. It's not so much fun.
It's funny. I asked Jersey Jerry what he thought was going to happen this offseason because we don't think that Tom, we talk about Tomlin maybe being on a hot seat.

They're probably not going to fire him because it's Pittsburgh.

They don't fire anybody.

But Jerry was like, yeah, they're probably not going to fire Tomlin,

but they're really going to clean house after this season.

That's the most Pittsburgh answer ever.

It's like, everyone's getting fired except the head coach.

We have to keep him around.

Just to remind everyone that the Pittsburgh Sears have had three head coaches

since we landed on the moon. I think it's 1966.
Yeah, Chuck Knoll, Bill Cowher, Mike Tomlin. That's it.
We just got coaches. Yeah.
Three of them. Have there been more leaders of North Korea or Pittsburgh Steelers head coaches since 1969? I think equal.
Yeah. Kim Jong-un, Kim Il-sun.
It's pretty sad to think, too, like our franchise is like we – I think we can go back less than a decade to get to four. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, four head coaches. And Trestman was 2000 – his last year was 2014.
So Trestman, John Fox, Matt Nagy, and now Iberflus. So, yeah, that's four in ten years.
Yep. Mike Shanahan, Jay Gruden.
Jay Gruden had a long run. Yeah, he did.
He had a nice little run. He had Kirk Cousins.
Yeah. Maybe greatest quarterback in Redskins history in the last 30 years.
We'll get to that. It's better Heineke.
Yeah, well, we'll get to that. He's the best.
We'll get to that. Ever.
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Afternoon slate. Is Jake pooping? I think he's pooping.
I think he just pooped right before the show started. He didn't even shut the door.
He's got some issues. He's got some issues.
You guys want to do any slanderous rumors about one of his teams or something? We didn't do anything like that. Yeah, Hank.
Why are you so paranoid? You still didn't listen. Rent free, bro.
You didn't listen. We live rent free in your head.
You never listen. We said Blake Griffin.
He asked PFT and I for one of the great starter jackets that we now have on sale that are incredible. So Blake Griffin will probably be wearing them walking into a game soon.

And we said, can you pump up Hank?

And he said, the Celtics team is the best team I've ever played on.

He said that.

We literally said that on the show.

But you don't listen back.

And so you thought we were slandering you.

And now hang on your face.

Apologize to us.

And thank us at the same time.

If that's true, I do apologize. And thank you.
Apology not accepted. Big Ev.
Yes. Thank you.
Okay. Would you? Big Ev? That's a big if.
Big Ev. Oh.
Big Ev. Okay.
Listen back. Okay.
Titans, Texans. Titans, 17.
Texans, 10. Tractor Cito season is officially here.
He had, oh, Jake's back from his poop. He had 219.
Jake's back from his poop. You okay, Jake? Yeah.
What are you doing, Jake? P, number one. Number one.
You just gave up number one. He had 219 yards, two touchdowns.
This is one of the two games that we said, this and the Commandersers and Colts should not have been an afternoon game.

It did not have afternoon game vibes.

Not at all. But Derek

Henry just dominated

the Texans and he always

dominates the Texans. So the

last four times that he's played the Texans

he has run for

892 yards and nine touchdowns.

That's so bad. If he played

what is that noise?

It sounds like a cop car.

If he played, if Derek

I don't know. 792 yards and nine touchdowns.
So bad. If he played, what is that noise?

It's a,

it sounds like a cop car.

If he played,

if Derek,

if Derek Henry was allowed to play a 17 game season, just against the Texans,

he would run for 3,791 yards and 38 touchdowns.

That's,

that's what he's done.

The last four games just against the Texans. He has uh he also is the uh now tied for the lead with two great guys adrian peterson and oj simpson for most 200 yard games in nfl history with six you'd think it'd be more than that but no tractor cito four straight games 100 yards he is fucking awesome so So most games in NFL history with 200 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns.

Oh.

Three, LaDainian Tomlinson, he had three.

Barry Sanders also had three.

Jim Brown also had three.

And then in first place is Derrick Henry only against the Texans with four.

Crazy.

And then overall, Derrick Henry has six of those games.

Crazy.

Four of which have come against the Houston Texans. He just absolutely owns.
What are you guys giggling about? What are you guys giggling about? We have this new graphics kid making thumbnails for the YouTube. Go look at the YouTube and he sent it to me, Max, and memes and I'm in the thumbnail with my face fat as fuck.
Oh, you got a positive. I go, why did you fatten my face? And he goes, that's one of the notes.
And I just said, interesting. I also don't think that was one of the notes.
But this is like a new candidate. There's no way that this candidate that we just hired made that on his own with memes in the mix.
Memes knows that fattening people's faces and thumbnails plays. It happens to all of us.
No, I know. I just wanted to get to the bottom of it.
This kid's definitely shitting himself right now. No, I know it wasn't him.
I know it was memes. This is smart for engagement.
Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll have to post a fat face yeah now we have to you did that yourself yeah

so yeah tractor cito season has officially begun they were basically just like hey malik willis it's your first start just give the ball to the guy that owns the houston texans one single pass attempt in the second half pretty good pretty good game plan it was uh malik willis was six or ten for 55 yards. He had

the Titans had

40 yards, pass yards,

net pass yards. So I had Evan, who does some of our stats, that hole does some stuff too.
Shout out both those guys. I had him look up the fewest pass yards in a win, in a dome win, because obviously Mac Jones, what did he have last year? Like 17 yards or something, whatever it was.
fewest pass yards in a win in a dome win because obviously mac jones what do you have last year like 17 yards or something whatever it was fewest pass yards in a dome win uh chris winky i just had to mention chris winky because he's a legend uh once beat with the panthers once beat the falcons in 2006 with uh 11 net pass yards that's pretty cool he went four for seven for 32 yards. Did you send it, Hank?

Hank does look fat as shit in that picture.

Oh, yeah.

I like this.

Wait, where's Jake?

Oh, you look so fat.

I look skinny compared to that.

Yeah.

Nice.

Wait, this guy works quick.

I'm wearing this right now.

Yeah.

This is my face from right now.

He's watching us. How did that happen? I actually don't know the answer to that he's probably watching because what's up whatever whatever you said him picture yeah the beginning of the show i sent it i sent that um okay so yeah that was that was my only i just anytime i can mention chris wenke i have to so he wants to win a game with 11 net pass yards he was four for seven for 32 yards passing that's pretty it's pretty impressive yeah that's that's pretty fun malik willis had a qbr of 4.5 and still won yeah yeah and and i think we can officially say the texans are the worst team in the nfl i think it's safe to say i i gave the texans out as my lock of all locks because i was like hey malik willik Willis going against Lovie Smith.
Yep. He'll probably be able to at least cover the spread.
My deep numbers didn't look into the fact that tractor-seto season had begun today. Yeah.
And so if anybody had even given me an inkling of the fact that the Houston Texans are Derrick Henry's personal bitch, I probably would have made that my bet of the week. Yep.
But I didn't have the luxury of diving deep into the numbers to realize that Derek Henry is good at football. Yep.
So I think this is the start of something good for the Titans and for Derek Henry, and they'll get to a place where they feel good about themselves going into playoffs where Ryan Tannehill will then choke it away for them. Yes.
Here's what we're going to do for the Texans going forward. We're just going to remind you of your draft picks because that's really all you have to do.
Like if I were a Texans fan right now, after every Sunday, I would just pull up the future draft picks and just look at it and stare at it. Maybe even print it and put it on my refrigerator.
Do that if you're a Texans fan. They have two first round picks next year.
They have three in the third round. They have like five in the sixth round and then in 2024 they also have two first round picks so just keep thinking about that yeah you have four four first round picks coming in the next two years just print those out watch the browns lose like monday night just root against the browns that's just as good.
Like, imagine if the Browns really crater and the Texans get, like, the first and second or first and third. That would be pretty fun.
Yeah, and you don't have Jack Easterby anymore. Yeah.
That's huge. Right now, the Texans would have the second and the seventh pick.
That's pretty cool. And it's also probably pretty cool to watch the Cardinals lose because you're like, oh, yeah, we lost some of our great players that are over there, but at least they're not winning behind my back.
Right, exactly. So just do that.
If you're a Texans fan, I want to see someone print out the picks you have upcoming, put it on your refrigerator, look at it every day because we always talk about hope in the NFL. This is why going back to, not to keep going back to the Jaguars, but that's why I was talking about how demoralizing a loss like today is.
Because the stages of being bad, being bad with a shitload of draft picks is not a terrible place to be in. That's hope.
You're holding hope. And yeah, maybe the draft picks aren't good, but you don't know that yet.
You have some time to figure that out. So we have announced that it's Tractor Cito season.
There might be a week break that we take in Tractor Cito season because they're playing at the Chiefs Sunday night football next week. Is that Tractor Cito season? I know that the Titans have played well against the Chiefs in the past.
But that is a game where it's like if the Chiefs go up 14-0, it might be a problem. Yes.
It might be a problem. You can't really play from behind and have Derrick Henry get like 35 carries.
It would be cool if they just did that, though. They should.
Yeah. You should do that.
Yeah. You just say, fuck it.
We're going to hand the ball to Derrick Henry no matter what. Yeah, exactly.
Okay, so next game, CommanderColts. Billy, you're back on the hot seat.
Let's start, though, again with the winner. Taylor Heineke is so much fun, as bad as he played for the first half.
Game-winning drive. He's so much...
I find myself rooting for Taylor Heineke. You can't help but root for him.
He's fun. He's just...
He never gives up on anything. He's always trying to make a play.
He's the very definition of trying to make a play. He did the thing where he pointed downfield several times today, and he didn't do anything stupid.
That's always what you fear when he points his finger downfield. It usually means he's about to make the most electric throw of all time or do something stupid as fuck.
Right. And he didn't do anything that stupid on those plays.
It was great. He knows just like throw the ball to Terry McLaurin because if it's a 50-50 ball to Terry McLaurin, here's a stat for you, Ian Eagle.
Terry McLaurin catches 95% of all 50-50 balls thrown his way. Yeah.
It's incredible. And he's from Indianapolis.
It was a personal revenge game, which I don't – I guess the Col him. Yeah.
But he did go off. He wasn't recruited out of high school to play for the Colts.
Colts, yeah. But I like the angle.
I bet his overs. It's just a homecoming.
You have your family there. You have your friends from high school.
It was smart to bet the overs on that one. Taylor Heineke is the perfect quarterback to root for in this situation that I find myself in right now because I don't think he's going to be the future starter of the team based on how he plays sometimes early on in games.
Yeah. But he's probably my favorite backup quarterback in the NFL.
He is so much fun. He's a good guy.
You can't help but root for him. And I did some digging into the Washington Redskins football team commanders quarterback history.
Heineke right now is now 9-8 as a starter. He's above .500.
There's only one other starter in this team's history since the turn of the century, since the Dan Snyder era truly began, that is over .500. And that's Alex Smith.
Wow. So Taylor Heineke is now the second best quarterback in Redskins football team commanders history under Dan Snyder.
I have another stat for you that you're going to like. The commanders Redskins football team.
Now, this is a misleading stat because a lot of teams will, if they're down late, will lose the game. That's just how it works.
But since 2000, the Commanders football team Redskins are 1-128. One win, 128 losses when trailing by multiple scores in the final five minutes of the game.
Taylor Heineke just did the second one. First one was Mark Brunel.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't tell me.
Mark Brunel against the Dallas Cowboys, Monday Night Football, two touchdown passes to Santana Moss. Yep, yep, yep.
That was an awesome game. Yep, yep.
And that's – so there's Taylor Heineke. He just won in 128.
He changed that. That's incredible.
Yeah. He's fun, man.
And listen, I'll be completely realistic about this because the Colts should have won this game. They had two fumbles, I think, inside the 25-yard line.
They gave this game away. They made stupid mistakes.
But our defense came up big when we caused some turnovers. It's not like they were just given to us.
We proved that it wasn't just Matt Ryan, maybe, that was the problem with fumbles. Maybe the entire team was just coughing the ball up a little bit.
And Frank Reich played like a chicken shit head coach that was afraid of getting fired. Yes.
And he's going to get fired. Frank Reich was taking the points today.
Yeah. Big time.
He was like, I'll take the points. I don't care.
He kicked field goals from the Washington 21 when it was fourth and three. He kicked it on the two-yard line on fourth and goal, and then he punted on fourth and inches with two minutes, 45 seconds left to go.
So Frank Reich, chicken shit football, trying not to get fired, which is actually probably going to make it more likely. Yeah, no, he's definitely getting fired.
By the way, you do this sam ellenger talk breaking moves breaking moves breaking moves breaking moves breaking moves the los angeles lakers have won a basketball game all right let's go for that let's go braun good for our colleague pat beverly they are one in five they beat your nuggets oh fuck wait i didn't take a watch that 121 to 110 it's bullshit yeah that's bullshit nba rigged um yeah billy you're up you you had a huge sunday between the jets versus the patriots and sam ellinger finally starting. It started off promising, too, because Trevor Lawrence looked bad.

Yeah.

And now, where are you?

They lost the game.

He won 17 for 23, 201 yards, no touchdown passes,

but also no interceptions.

For a first start, that's not that bad at all.

And honestly, from the first three downs he played, he span out and threw an incompletion but hit the guy right in the chest on a very athletic uh sort of high energy electric type play he got that out and then his last pass at the end of the game was a good pass was a good one hit the guy right in the hands he dropped it and then he had a completion to finish off the game they held him inside and the clock ran out like you know he did his job he didn't turn the ball over and he made plays and made some you know there was some sparks where you could see that you know maybe down the line stuff starts happening yeah so I mean it wasn't a it was better than Zach Wilson's first start yeah so Billy, I'm glad that you brought up Zach Wilson. Would you give up Zach Wilson right now for Sam Ellinger? How deep into this take are you? I'm deep into both these takes really, really deep.
You can only be deep in one. It's like holes.
Well, I'm just saying it as a guy who doesn't throw interceptions. No, I'm talking holes.
Whose hole are you inside of? I'm in both holes. You can't.
Very deep. And if I want to make a tunnel between the two of the holes and make a tunnel system.
Pick one hole. Okay.
Then Sam Ellinger would probably go to the Jets. Let's give Zach.
Whoa. Whoa.
So that's a big moment. This is a big thing you just said.
Oh, my. You know what I'm hearing.
I'm going to let you take it back. You backed me into my hole.
I'm going to let you take it back. You have five seconds to take it back.
Five, four, three, two, one, and it's permanent. It's permanent.
Not the guy. Zach Wilson's not your guy.
You want Sam Elendor over Zach Wilson. I mean, Zach Wilson jersey.
Make it permanent. I just said, as a guy who doesn't throw interceptions, that's the kind of guy you want as your quarterback.
Yeah. we're seeing you're making it worse right now yeah you're you're you're filling in his hole it is 1 a.m right now no 12 0 5 a.m and i have 3 a.m 3 a.m also your belly's filled with prime rib yes oh sorry filet mignon you had filet mignon for dinner skewers skewers yeah not a filet mignon it was skewerset mignon for dinner tonight? Skewers.
Skewers. Yeah.
Not a filet mignon. It was skewers.
The Colts are just sad. Yeah.
And I think everyone's getting fired. I think Chris Ballard's getting fired.
I think Frank Reich's getting fired. I don't know.
Like, the team, it feels like they've always been – they've deluded everyone to be like, we're just one quarterback away, and they've made the mistake of just keep going with old quarterbacks, and then also the roster is just not as good as it was meant to be like we're just one quarterback away and they've made the mistake of just keep going with old quarterbacks and then also the roster is just not as good as it was meant like yeah you can't permanently be one quarterback away right and everything's going to change up they have the problem is they have some really good players yeah they've quinn Nelson they've Jonathan Taylor Shaquille Leonard was back I don't Shaquille I wish he was still Darius but I respect that he's Shaquille now because every time I look, I'm like, oh, who's this guy? He was awesome, but yeah, they're just not a good team overall. They're not.
And the commanders are in a place where I think now that we've positioned ourselves to finish about 500 for the season. That's my prediction.
Dude, the commanders are frisky. They could get in the playoffs, BFT.
They could. I'm saying like, okay, so their division, the NFC beast.
Yeah. Listen, if the commanders played in the NFC South, they would be kings.
I'd be the king of the South right now. But the East, it's like the Giants and the Cowboys are both 6-2.
Philadelphia is going undefeagled this season. I don't see them.

I'm going to give you your path.

You know what would be awesome?

Yes, I want to hear about a path.

I'm going to give you your path.

I've started to think about a path.

I just think it would be cool if every team in the NFC East got into the playoffs this year.

Yeah, that would be cool.

I'm going to give you your path, though.

You ready for your path?

Uh-huh.

You got to beat the Giants twice.

Yeah.

Can you do it? No, no. We never beat the Giants twice.
Yeah. Can you do it?

No, no.

We never beat the Giants twice.

Okay, so you play the Giants two weeks in a row with a bye in between.

It's weird.

But I'm looking at your schedule right now.

If you beat the Giants twice, I think there is absolutely a way that you guys can get to nine wins.

So there it is.

Okay.

Nine wins would probably maybe get you in the playoffs, nfc maybe can we when does flex scheduling start um i think it's in a couple weeks is it next week because if we can somehow flex kirk cousins into the 425 time slot i think that's a good shot for us week 11 week 11 right oh daylight savings week 11 yeah uh okay what's that date because we've gotten daylight savings wrong a lot so week 11 is what date that would be i believe like the 13 13 all right so remember to change your clocks on the 13th november 13th yeah um i just like to apologize to america for having this game on at 425 yeah it was fucked up it the the commander should never be on at 425 ever. It was fucked up.
Yeah, I don't think it's ever happened before. It'll probably never happen again.
This team has huge 1 p.m. energy.
At the most of 4.05 kickoff. 425 is just it.
I'm sitting around waiting for the Commanders game to start in the afternoon. Yes.
America should not have to go through that. So I do apologize.
but I won't, I won't apologize for winning. Yeah.
I like to correct myself. It can be changed twice between weeks five and 10.
Oh, interesting. Yeah.
Okay. Let's go to the next game.
We have two left. This next game.
I'm very excited to talk about because I'm dubbing this the narrative stolen game. and that's seahawks 27 giants 13 the narrative has officially been stolen i think the seahawks are now what the giants were in terms of the fun team that no one saw coming they win this game kind of easily like their their defense the seahawks defense by the way uh tariq Wollin their their fifth round pick who's been insane as a cornerback like Daniel Jones I think threw to him once today uh the Seahawks defense outside of the garbage time touchdown they gave up to the Chargers last week they've given up 9 16 and 13 points in the last three weeks and Geno Smith's playing well and they're taking shots at Russell Wilson after every win, which I fucking love.
What was the quote? It said, it's amazing. Who said that? It was Lockett, right? He said, it's amazing what we can accomplish when no one cares who gets the credit.
That was a shot at Russell Wilson. But the Seahawks are the team now.
I'm not saying the Giants are dead. We'll talk about them in a second.
But the Seahawks are the team that no one saw coming.

They're now number one.

They're in first place in the NFC West.

They look for real, kind of.

Like, they kind of look for real.

And they are the fun team.

I think they look really for real.

And guess what?

I know Brian Dable.

We already gave our Coach of the Year votes.

We split them between Brian Dable and Arthur Smith.

We already mailed that into the league offices.

Pete Carroll is definitely in the conversation for Coach of the Year. This team was supposed to be one of the worst teams we split them between brian dable and arthur smith we already mailed that into the league offices pete carroll is definitely in the conversation for coach of the year this team was supposed to be one of the worst teams the nfl they i think we quoted it last week their over under for wins was five and a half they're five and three right now you know why that that was their win total though i think it was heavily figured on the the drew lock situation yeah i think we were all in our in our estimations our simulations that i was running in my brain i was seeing Drew Locke being the quarterback of this team and if you had told me Geno Smith would be the starter I think I would I would say okay I'm not saying that I would I would still write Geno Smith off but I wouldn't write him off as hard as I would write Drew Locke off and that's actually part of why Pete Carroll should be thought about coach of the year because I would think most NFL coaches would pick the younger guy who still has like oh maybe maybe if things work out Geno Smithson is what ninth year tenth year in the NFL there wouldn't be a lot of coaches that would be like you know what let's go with Geno Smith he's better maybe his upside's not there but he's just the better quarterback and we're gonna try to compete to compete this year.
And Pete Carroll even said after, he said, we look like we used to look, and the stadium was rocking like it used to rock. And it's like, I was watching that game being like, I think the Seahawks might actually be pretty good.
Yeah, the Seahawks are not great. They're pretty good.
They're very good. And what Pete Carroll's always been awesome at is evaluating talent and figuring out, okay, I know that we just signed Matt Flynn to a huge contract, but Russell Wilson is clearly a better quarterback when he's in the door, so we're going to start him over the big price tag guy.
That's what he did again this time. He's great at identifying defensive talent too because they're young guys on defense.
I've heard a few of the guys like Marshawn Lynch have said, these guys look, they remind me of the Legion of Boom. Tariq Wollin has been every bit as good as Sauce Gardner.
They're building this team very similar to how they built their team back in like 2013, 2012, which is have an awesome secondary, great tackling in your linebackers, a solid defensive line, and then hopefully a quarterback that won't kill you, which is what Russell Wilson was at the start, and then just put together an offensive line out of what's laying around. That's kind of how they operate.
Oh, and then a strong running back that will make your weak offensive line look good. That's the Seahawks way elite wide receivers yeah yeah like I mean the I I love that moment in the game when they called that play for Tyler Lockett and he just dropped the easiest touchdown ever I think it was like two plays later they called the same play hit him in the face and they're like here you go do it again catch it this time yeah and he did and it was I yeah I don't I I kind of believe in the Seahawks like i know that the 49ers have more talent i know the rams are super bowl champs all that stuff i just i'm i'm done thinking the seahawks are like a little nice story i i think they can they can absolutely rip off i'm gonna say 10 wins maybe it's a possibility wins that's it maybe i'm getting ahead of myself play They get to play the Cardinals again.
Yeah. I'm going to count that as a win for them.
Yeah. I mean.
The Bucs win. Win.
Raiders win. Panthers win.
Maybe not. Panthers.
That'll be a weird one. Yeah.
Panthers. Yeah.
That'll be a weird game. That will.
49ers. Lost.
Night game. Could be rocking.
Yeah. At home.
Oh, it's at home. At home.
I'm just saying. They put on the neon green.
Lumen Field. Geno Smith, by the way.
Crowd noise. Geno Smith has six games with multiple touchdowns this year.
He had seven in his entire nine-year career before that. So he's playing very good football.
The Seahawks also have a very powerful chip that they can cash in at any time,

which is just going into the season, they literally were written off by everybody. When a lot of teams try to find what's our motivation going to be,

what's our bulletin board material, nobody believes in us.

Half the time, Nick Saban is great at making that shit up.

He's like finding one random message board comment on Hogville in Arkansas and being like, see this guy? See Call the Hogs 420-69? He doesn't think that you guys can score 40 points. Right.
Go out there and score 50. The Seahawks actually have a lot of disrespect that everyone's given them that they can legitimately use to fuel them through this.
And on top of all of that, this has to have been a complete revelation this season. I know the Broncos won today, but with the way the Broncos have been playing, the way that everyone has been clowning Russell Wilson, it's basically like they got out of a relationship and they're like, see, it wasn't us.
It was him. They just keep getting validated over and over that like, no, he was the crazy one, not us.
Russell Wilson gaslit the fuck out of Seahawks right now. Yeah, it's got to feel great.
And they're learning that they're okay. Yeah.
Yeah, like, we're okay with Geno Smith. It's really nice to be in a relationship with someone that just loves you back.
Hey, Seahawks, it wasn't your fault. It was not your fault.
It's not your fault it didn't work out. The only other note I had from the Seahawks' side was Pete Carroll got a bumping into the ref flag, which was very funny.

I love it.

And it was just like his expression afterwards was vintage Pete Carroll. I loved every second of that.
So, the Giants. I have door one and door two for Giants fans.
door one is that the Giants have been a very lucky team and they are now playing teams that

are better than them. And when they don't play perfect football, they muffed two punts.
I think when they don't play perfect football, uh, they really don't have a ton of talent and you could see it today. Like Daniel Jones had no one to throw to Saquon Barkley was getting stuffed.
It looked painful for them to move the ball. The shoe might have dropped, like, on New York football this weekend.
That's door one. Door two, which I'm inviting Giants fans to walk into and completely fine if you choose this door.
It's just they went to London, then they came back home, played a very emotional game against the Ravens.

Win that game late. Go down

to Jacksonville. Same

thing. Last second win.

Then they have to fly all the way across country

to Seattle. This was a very

flat spot for them. You got to

just go home. Lick your wounds.

Get back at it. You're still 6-2.

You still can absolutely make the playoffs.

Don't worry about it. One game's not

a big deal. I would take door two because you're

going to make the playoffs. And you also have the Texans and the Lions next, so you should take door two.
Those are the two doors that you're thinking about. You're doing door two.
You're doing door two for sure. But you know door one exists.
Door one exists in the back of your mind. Actually, I think both doors can exist, and you can take both of them.
Yeah. I feel like it's two ends of the same wormhole, because door one is probably how your season will end up ending.
Right. In a loss in the playoffs.
And you probably know that, and you're probably fine with that if you're a Giants fan. You know that you might get lucky and win if everything goes your way, because you are a well-coached team, you could win whatever your first game of the playoffs might be.
But then you run into a really good team in the second round. And you probably won't be able to beat that great team.
Probably not. Unless everything goes your way.
So it's a realistic thing that you can think. You can hold both those thoughts and you're at the same time.
Also, this bye week is going to kick ass for you guys. Because it was a tough loss tough loss but also you're six and two going into the bye week six and we've been talking about teams that like will get their shit pushed in by the bye week i feel like the giants they're they're going to have the best bye week of all time like dayball is going to make the bye week want to join up with him and then take them on in the future and like this is all the lessons we learned the learned in the bi-week.
Let's keep this thing. I forgot that they had the bi-week, which makes the spot even flatter too.
Cause like, you're like, all right, we can get through this. And then we just, we have a week off.
And so, yeah, if you're a Giants fan, go through door two, because you're playing the Texans and the lions after the bi-week. Yeah.
Door one might be something you have to revisit when you play the Cowboys on Thanksgiving day. Yeah.
You're going to, that might be like uh-oh this isn't this might not be what we thought it was i mean i'm gonna tell some words to giants fans that should make everything fine you're going to win 10 games this year yeah i yeah you're definitely going to win yeah at six and two they definitely have four more wins on on the uh schedule but this this game was it was painful to watch because it was even though they were in it and it was like, Oh, is this magic just going to keep happening? And then when they got down two scores, like they got nothing to get back in this game. Like there's no chance to get back in this game.
Everything has to go exactly right. Yeah.
Yeah. You can't make any of the special teams mistakes.
That's really the thing. It's like you can't have interceptions and you can't have any sort of special teams turnover.
Right. And you should be able to at least keep it within one score of any team.
Because I was in the second half when it was a tie game. I was like, they're going to do this again.
They just keep winning these games. And then the air kind of came out of the balloon.
Okay. Let's go with the last game.
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49ers Rams. 49ers 31, Rams 14.
The Christian McCaffrey Show. This is when we had that talk about how do we need to see an all-star MVP type running back in Kyle Shanahan's system because he can just spit out running backs.
And we're like, no, you know what? We do want to see it. And then he got traded the next day.
This is what we wanted to see. Yeah, this is awesome.
This was so fucking awesome. Christian McCaffrey threw a touchdown, caught a touchdown, ran for a touchdown.
Last guy to do it was LT 2005. I think there's only three guys who've done it ever.
Walter Payton, I know, did. Yeah.
So the third guy ever to do it. And it basically, I don't want to say Kyle Shannon did this on purpose.
Yeah. But the Rams were the other team that were trying to get Christian McCaffrey.
And he basically was like, oh, you wanted this? Well, let me show you all the moves he's got. Yeah.
And he fucking flashed all the moves for them. It's great.
It was so cool. It's like a kid getting a toy on Christmas.
I remember one year I got new baseball cleats for Christmas, and I wore them everywhere. I wore them out to 7-Eleven later on that day.
I couldn't stop thinking about how cool my new baseball cleat. This was his new toy, and he's like, I'm going to use it in every way possible.
Yeah, I'm going to put my rollerblades on in the house. Yeah, gonna have so much fun yeah i'm gonna have so much fun with this new thing and it was awesome it was everything that we wanted this was so cool and uh he looks fast in that uniform too i think the 23 makes him look faster the red makes him look faster uh all of his his hamstrings fine now yeah which is great like it's weird how that happens you go out get some good California air in you.
Yup. And then all of a sudden, none of the soft tissue stuff.
I would like to see Sean McVay run Aaron Donald in his offense. Like Kyle Shanahan's running Christian McCaffrey.
Yeah. Just like run, just, but just power.
Just like run at people's faces. Because yeah, I mean, this is another one where the Rams even going into half, they look like, oh, okay, this might be different.
And then it was just the same old story. Kyle Shanahan owns Sean McVay.
I know that people will point to the NFC Championship game. I will say that the 49ers still covered that game.
But, yes, that is true. They did win on the way to the Super Bowl.
They did win that game. But in terms of regular season, Jimmy Garoppolo has never lost to the Rams, which is crazy.
He's 8-0 in the regular season. This is also a crazy stat that probably doesn't help the Jimmy Garoppolo fans out there.
Christian McCaffrey, his touchdown pass was 30-plus air yards. There have been three touchdown passes by 49ers throwers in the last, since 2020, to go for 30-plus air yards.
Christian McCaffrey, Trey Lance, C.J. Beathard.
That sucks. I thought you were going to say Debo.
I thought Debo had one of those. No, but that's one of those ones I saw, and I was like, oh boy.
That's why Kyle Shanahan wanted Trey Lance. Counterpoint is when you're throwing the ball 30-plus yards in the air, it's kind of a drive killer.
You give the ball right back to your opponent. That's true.
If you're Jimmy G and you're running for like six yards a clip, it takes a lot of time off the clock, and then that helps your defense get rested too. Yeah.
It's like hitting like a three-run homer. You'd rather have a double in the gap.
Rally killer. Keep it going.
Here's a fun stat. 21% of Kyle Shanahan's wins are over Sean McVay.
That's crazy.

That's a lot of percent. That's a lot of percent.

Before the game on ESPN, they did the whole Mike Shanahan coaching tree,

and it was like a nine-minute long segment talking about all these coaches

that were on that 2013 Redskins team.

I just want to read one paragraph from an article that I found

from Jason La Canfora talking about how bad this Redskins staff was and how their inexperience was costing them games. It's just one paragraph from here.
The quarterback's coach, Matt LaFleur, worked with Kyle Shanahan in Houston and had only two years' experience as an offensive assistant, scare quotes, with the Texans prior to becoming the Redskins QB coach. Similarly, receivers coach Mike McDaniel was a lower level assistant on the Texans staff before coming to Washington.
And tight ends coach Sean McVay's only prior NFL experience to joining Washington came in 2008 as an offensive assistant in Tampa. This is an article saying this coaching staff sucks.
It's Kyle Shanahan's fault for working with all these nobodies.

Love it.

I love it.

I love it.

Yeah, it's crazy.

The 49ers just for some reason.

They just always beat the Rams.

And the Rams are in trouble now.

I don't really know.

So we have our first loser leaves town game next week.

True loser leaves town.

The Rams are going to the Bucs.

So that is like whoever loses that game is going to be in real in a shitload of hurt to me that whose line is it anyway let's guess it rams at the bucks and this is saturday or this sunday at the 1 p.m time slot maybe bucks minus two and a half is my guess i'm gonna go with rams i'm gonna go with Rams minus two and a half. I a lot? Bucks minus 2.5 is my guess.
I'm going to go with Rams. I'm going to go with Rams minus 2.5.
I'll say Bucks minus 3. I feel like the odds makers are just my brain where it comes like, the Bucks can't be this bad.
I believe we have an exact winner. Bucks minus 2.5.
Oh. Did you look at it? No.
Come on. Okay.
Well, I'm taking the Rams. We don't cheat at whose line is it anyway.
I feel like this is a whomping. This has whomp written all over it right now.
Yeah. You taking the Rams? I'm taking the Rams.
I'm recusing myself of this game. I will not be picking this game.
You're going to take the Bucs. I'm going to take the Bucs.
You're obsessed with the Bucs. You take the Bucs.
It's a great spot for them. Mini-buy, you're buying as low as possible with them.
I just keep buying low. You just keep buying low.
I feel bad sometimes when I pick against Big Cat, but this is one of those situations where you know when you see your friend that has a problem and they won't take the help. This is Big Cat with the Bucs.
Remember the Falcons a few years ago when there was just all the first-round picks and I was like, this team is so talented.

This is – I just keep being like, Tom Brady can't lose this many games in a row.

Well, guess what?

Someone might be injured for the Rams.

Sean McVay, probably the dumbest thing he's ever done as a coach.

He had Cooper Cup running routes with a minute left in this game, down 31-14, and he hurt his ankle. Wait, how bad? I wasn't factoring that into my equation.
He hurt his ankle. They don't know, but the dumbest thing you can do.
I don't understand what he was thinking. Yeah, very stupid.
With one minute left, he was running plays down 31-14, and Cooper Cup hurt his ankle. Very, very stupid.
The one guy you can't lose. So he's the guy.
I think he's got – what was his season last year? How many yards receiving did Cooper Cupp have? Oh, something insane. He got like the triple crown or whatever last year.
1600, I can't even remember. 1947.
That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
Yeah, Sean McVay, you're a dummy. I think it's so personal with McVay at this point that he loses his sense of how to coach and all his strategic advantages that he has against other coaches.
It's all out the window against Kyle Shanahan. It just becomes like, I want to beat this guy so fucking bad because he owns me.
Right. Right.
So that was a bad moment for Sean McVay. And I don't know what you know the niners feels like they need to have debo today so what if what if the rams go out there and they get kamara oh it's that would be quite the arms race that fix everything that's wrong with them i think it would fix what's mentally wrong with mcveigh right now which is he wishes he had mcafree yeah right so mean.
And you can convince yourself, too, if you get Kamara.

You can convince yourself you're happy with Kamara

when you originally wanted McCaffrey.

Yes, yes.

And they, I don't know.

I don't know what the,

I feel like the Rams aren't running back away right now

from, like, everything they're doing.

And I also feel like just based on vibes,

New Orleans shouldn't be sending Kamara to the Rams.

You still got bad blood with the Rams. Yeah, don't do that.
Don't let that go. Don't fucking do that.
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Okay, Billy, football guy of the week. So our last week's winner was Jason Kelsey with his quote about pregame apparel.
And he said, what the fuck do I care about a game day fit? I don't like to play up i like to play football yeah and then i was thinking he did dress up for the parade so that was a big dress up and he did put on uh a costume when they were clowning the stealers this week so wait which batman is he i'm not even a uh uh eagles guy but i that's like you just grab that mask from someone in the crowd. Yeah.
I don't think that's like a... I don't know.
The Batgirl stuff has been happening. They were running with the Bat stuff.
No, yeah. He had a quote a couple weeks ago that was like, well, if we have swole Batman, skinny Batman, and fast Batman, why can't we have fat Batman? And that's why he did it.
Also, Claude, Tony O'Brown is just fat man. Yeah.
Lane Johnson also... That was the best.
Yeah. Dressed up as Jason Kelsey.
It was pretty cool. I do like that.
Yeah. It was very funny.
We should dress up as each other for Halloween. Next Halloween.
Next Halloween. We'll do it for sure.
We're definitely going to do it. Today.
Cool. No, next Halloween.
Next Halloween. When we wake up tomorrow? No, no, no.
Next Halloween. Okay.
Not this Halloween. Next Halloween.
We still have time to dress up. No, no, no.
Next Halloween. Not this Halloween.
Next Halloween. I've already got my costume picked out for this Halloween.
Okay, so our first nominee this week. I'm going as me.
I'm going to go as Max next year. Sid! If a lot of you guys saw, there was a viral moment where a Phillies fan, a young Phillies fan with a pee painted on his chest

was chirping Houston Atros fans in the crowd.

And turns out he's a football guy.

So apparently he got on a flight 6 a.m. the next morning to go play his Pop Warner game

and kept the Phillies painted on logo on underneath his equipment while he was playing.

So, I mean, getting back for a football game, not even celebrating the win, that's

a football guy move. I like that.

And he's flexing for the camera before his game.

I like that. He got in that dude's face, too.

Yeah, that guy's a dog.

That guy has a dog in him.

He's very Philly.

Our second nominee is Lane Kiffin

in the Ole Miss game against A&M.

He was yelling at one of his players

to fake an injury to stop the clock. He was yelling at one of the opponent's players being like yeah bitch why don't you get down and fake an injury because the guy was crying to the refs or something i like that but also lane kiffin he's had players do that in the past he also talked shit to jimbo after too in the press conference i think yeah which is pretty funny i like lane i do too we're lane Lane really doesn't give a shit.
No, he does not give a shit whatsoever. I think.
Yeah. Which is pretty funny.
I like Lane. I do, too.
We're Lane guys.

Lane really doesn't give a shit.

No, he does not give a shit whatsoever.

I think he's figured out that Ole Miss is a perfect place for him

to not give a shit about anybody on the outside.

I hope he stays there.

Because as long as you win football games at Ole Miss,

you can do anything.

I mean, anything.

Nothing's off limits at Ole Miss.

He said afterwards, nothing.

You can have yourself a time. Yes.
Just win. Big time.
He said, maybe Jimbo has a Joker outfit for me after the game. I don't.
That was pretty good. There's a lot of, like, internal, like, inside jokes about things that have been done in the past in the SEC.
I'm just going to assume that that's a really good dig at Jimbo Fish. Yes.
Our third nominee is Coach Rabel. Coach Rabel was embracing his center, walking out of the field, into the tunnel.
Ben Jones. He started crying about how courageous it was that Ben Jones played through so many injuries during the game and patted on the head and was just bawling on his shoulder.
I like that. No, he had some wild injuries that game.
I think, didn't he get moved to center as well? I think so. I forget exactly how that struck out, but I think he also had diarrhea and food poisoning before the game.
Yeah, Jake just gave a little nod. Like, yeah.
I actually think that that's got to be one of the toughest things to do is play an entire NFL game as an offensive lineman. While you have diarrhea.
Yeah. That's Ironman.
I would agree. I'd agree.
And our fourth and last nominee is Jim Mora head coach of UConn who, uh, during the game when they're beat UMass for the first time in a very long time, I think ever. No, no, no.
They beat BC. BC.
First of all, is next week. Yeah, UMass.
It's C for Connecticut, and then UMass, so it's Comass when they show the logos. Perfect.
So it turns out he lives in a haunted house. Yeah.
A little Halloween special for a football guy. He lives in a haunted house and refuses to move out, even though he knows there's ghosts it.
He said they're friendly ghosts. That's kind of cool.
I thought you were going to do Michigan State for beating up that Michigan player. That was bad.
That was going to be for my who's back. He got in the tunnel.
It was a guy that was mowing the lawn before the game in a tractor or whatever and just ran over the goalpost. It then the team, it was like a high school game, and they just had to play on one side of the field.
That's great. What do you do if you're in that tractor? I feel like you've got two routes you can go.
One, you can just quit and walk away and not say anything. Or two, you can try to play it off and be like, when I got up the field, it was already like that.
And just hope there's no video. That's likeical.
Maybe more than a few years. I can't keep track of years.
But Illinois played Northwestern at Wrigley, and they didn't measure it correctly. And it was like a very big hazard in one end zone.
So they just had to play going one way. Oh, yeah.
It was like an arena football. Yeah, they had to play going one way the entire time because if you caught a touchdown pass in one of the end zones, you just run into a brick wall.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There was a conspiracy going around on, I think it was on Alabama on some message board that they had where they were saying that the uprights weren't the correct. They weren't regulation in Tennessee.

And that's why the students like tore them down and threw them into the river.

Oh, I like to get rid of the evidence. I like that a lot.
And that's why they missed that field goal in the fourth quarter against the volunteers. I like that.
Let's look into it. That's some good shit.
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Visible.com slash switching hour to get the best wireless out there. Hank, who's back of the week?

My who's back of the week is racing.

Yeah.

NASCAR.

Yeah.

We're talking NASCAR, baby.

NASCAR.

Never thought you'd see the day.

But Spider, guy that works behind the scenes here at Barstow.

I don't think we talk about him much on the show, but huge, huge glue guy.

Great guy.

He's an absolute gearhead.

Like, he really loves NASCAR.

Rubbin's racing.

Go follow it on social.

It's our racing platform.

But he loves NASCAR.

I'll talk to him about it.

Ask him because he makes picks, gives gambling picks, gives him good picks.

So we'll shoot the shit, ask him what he likes this weekend,

sometimes put a couple bucks on it.

And then today we had AJ Elmendinger, the 26 car, part of my cheesesteak car.

So I had a little bit more interest in what's going on, what's going on? How's the race doing? How's our car doing? I don't think we did a great thing. We finished like in the 20s, whatever.
But I was sitting next to Spider in the afternoon games. They're all kind of a snooze fest.
And he's giving me the situation like Denny Hamlin needs to, you know, finish in fourth or whatever. And he makes the playoff.
The playoffs, 16 people. And then after this race, it gets whittled down to four.
and Denny Hamlin needs to you know finish in fourth or whatever and he makes the playoff he was in the playoffs 16 people and then after this race it gets whittled down to four and Denny Hamlin needed to finish in a certain spot to advance so I'm watching I'm tuned in and then this guy Ross Jastain who was in fifth him it's basically him or Denny he was two two spots behind Denny. Short track.

The race was basically over. It seemed like Denny Hamlin had raced his way into the final four.
And this guy pulled a move. I was speechless.
Apparently afterwards, you know, it came out that it was one of the craziest, best NASCAR finishes of all time. But in the moment, I was like, does this happen all the time? Because it was amazing.
He just used gravity and, like, science. ran his car into the wall so that he didn't have to brake on the turn

and just hit the gas as hard as he could and he one of the coolest moves i've ever seen he came behind beat denny hamlin at the finish line by a hair and he advances to the playoff and denny hamlin lost i i have no idea why more race car drivers don't do this. Yeah.
It just looked like he unlocked. It looked like he caught the mushroom in Mario Kart and just went faster than everybody else around the outside.
The speed strip. Yeah, why don't you just do that all the time? It was unbelievable.
This guy, NASCAR man, tweeted this out. Chastain's last lap was 18.845 seconds, a second faster than Kyle Larson's pole when no one's on the course, a tenth of a second faster than the track record set in 2014.
So this guy just did. He literally was like, it's like a movie where it's like, there's no way we're going to get past this unless, and he just like the happy Gilmore, you know, when all the shit's on the tee and he just has to go up and around.
He basically did that in NASCAR. It was just like, well, I got one move left.
It's the fuck it run to the wall and just put my pedal to the metal and hope I win, and he did. Well, he didn't win, but he beat Denny in advance.
I love that. He said that he used to do it on the GameCube in 2005, like there was some NASCAR game that he used to do it, and then he was like, fuck it, I'm going to try it out in real life.
It sucks that it happened against Denny, but it was a fucking badass move. I think it's one of those things Denny's probably like, yeah, you've got to respect it.
One of the guys called it like a clown move and said it was bad for the sport. I got news for it.
That attitude is bad for the sport. Yeah, we're talking about it right now.
That was awesome. He just beat you guys because he had the nuts to drive his race car into a wall and then use centripetal force to slingshot around you.
That's cool as fuck. Yeah.
You gotta watch the clip if you're a little bit confused. It will do it justice.
It was one of those things where I was was one of those things where I was... It was destroyed our car.
But it would have been sick. Yeah.
That's why I was watching it. I wish we'd done it coming like 28th.
We should fine him for not doing that. You know, I've never...
I can't even tell you the last time I watched a NASCAR finish. So it was one of those things where I was watching it.
It was like, that was fucking crazy. Like, this happens all the time.
And then it was like, no, this is a once in a lifetime. Yeah.
Once, you know. Yeah yeah when they call it i saw a bunch of tweets calling it the best non-winning race finish of all time so because he came in fourth but it was unbelievable yeah i'm and i'm rooting i mean this guy's you gotta you gotta bet on him to win the championship next sunday in phoenix i'm suspending aj allmendinger for not doing that for one episode of part of my take we will not discuss aj allmendingigger fair fair uh PFT your who's back uh my who's back of the week is comedy because comedy is now legal on Twitter oh that was an Elon Musk tweet nice so uh that's a good one the first amendment is back yep Elon Musk took over Twitter and now there are reports that he's going to charge people that have blue check marks $20 a month to keep their blue check.
I'm very woke on this, by the way. I think that this is like coaches do this a lot in sports where they leak something to a guy that they don't believe.
Like, I don't know, maybe something along the lines of we're considering hiring Condoleezza Rice as our next head coach at the Cleveland Browns. And then they see if that makes it into the news.
And then they know exactly who they can't trust.

Yep.

I feel like Elon's doing that right now.

There's somebody that he told this information.

I agree.

That's putting it out there.

But that said,

there are a lot of people that I guarantee like we're all addicted to

Twitter.

Oh,

yeah.

There are a ton of people that would,

that would pay.

Well,

it's our job.

Yeah,

it is.

I have to be.

Yeah.

You make me be addicted.

You're my boss. You forced me to be.
No, I wish you guys would get addicted to like tiktok okay i will yeah starting starting tomorrow i'll be addicted to tiktok done making them or just watching them both making them well you gotta watch to make that's a chinese company though isn't it yeah so that not free speech get addicted We. Get addicted to YouTube.
We're not addicted to YouTube? I don't know. Alright.
We'll be addicted to both. Done.
It's really addicting. Yeah.
YouTube? TikTok. Yeah.
Look at Billy's brain. He gets all his facts from TikTok.
Billy can you give me a brain dump on Elon Musk taking over Twitter? I personally think that he's doing it because he's bored and he's rich, and he thought that this would be cool. It would make him cool to be the guy that's the head of Twitter.
And again, just buy a team, dude. Buy an NFL team, that's way cooler.
He walked into the lobby with a sink, detached, a detached sink, where you wash your hands. So Big Cat could piss in it? No, I thought he was like throwing the kitchen sink at Twitter

but he was letting that

sink in. I feel like

Elon's gonna, he's like emptying

the clip of jokes and

by like mid next

week he's gonna be like, wait, I own this?

I think he liked

posting online. He's always been a

poster. I'm sure that he's had burner accounts and shit.

He got sick of like having his engagement stall out. There are a lot of people that talk shit to him all the time on Twitter.
And he's like, I'll show all the haters. I'll buy this whole fucking thing.
And then you'll have to love all my tweets. And, I mean, credit to him.
It's probably going to work. Yeah, we love your tweets.
I love your tweets, Elon. Yeah, we love your tweets.
Come on, part of my take, Elon. We love your tweets.
And basically, I'll just yell at you for not owning a professional sports team.

Yes, call you a loser for that.

All right, my who's back of the week is Kyrie Irving being a shithead.

So he went viral and was in the news.

So last week, he posted a link to a documentary that was very anti-Semitic and just factually incorrect.

And then people were like, dude, that's kind of fucked up. He then did an interview after the Nets lost another game on Saturday night.
And I think it was all in 60 seconds. He's like, I know I have a very powerful platform.
And then was like, why are you guys asking me these questions? Ask me basketball questions. Who cares? so I guess I should be shocked

but I'm not because this is what a duke education gets you uh duke grads just being dumb are like that's that's not you know that's just what happens right he graduated from duke yeah he graduated from duke same yeah in one year yeah one year he got so much education but there's no one in the world who thinks they're smarter than they are than Kyrie Irving. Like, he thinks he's the smartest person in the world, and he has no depth whatsoever.
So, yeah, Kyrie Irving is performing a useful activity, though, which is the media is now talking about Kyrie being the story on the nets and not Ben Simmons having more fouls than he has made field goals. Yeah, that's cool it's like a distraction now at what cost uh raging anti-semitism yeah yeah and just being like i'm just posting it i'm not saying that it's right i'm just posting it so people can then watch it yeah he said that he's not endorsing it yeah so i like to do that a lot is i just take a bunch of things i don't agree with yeah and i just post links so that people can buy copies of like here's why i think the world is flat yeah just because you know stretch your mind out he sucks man he's he's he just sucks he just sucks he also seems miserable yeah well he i i think he thinks that he's like an intellectual and then when he's when he when he does this shit and then tries to explain it and backtrack it and then also like get out of it it's like dude you don't you can't even you can't even stand by whatever you're trying to like you're provocative you're you're being a provocateur but then when when people ask you about it directly you're like i don't know i love all people or he's what he's just being like it's my right yeah okay you're right it is your right it's our right to call you an idiot yeah then why but why yeah why are you doing that and then he doesn't want to answer there's no follow-up yeah like i would understand if if you at least can can uh have a debate i wouldn't respect his uh you know posting of anti-semitic shit but at least be like well at least he's thinking about it and he's i don't know standing behind it but he's not even doing that no he's just he's just like lobbing a firecracker into a crowd.
And then it explodes and everybody's like, yo, why the fuck did you do that? He's like, why are you questioning me about these things? I love all people. It's such my right.
I would never hurt anybody. Why aren't you guys asking me about basketball? Aren't you basketball reporters? Yeah.
Yeah, so Kyrie Irving being an idiot is back. Hank, do you feel vindicated by everything that Kyrie's done afterwards? Not vindicated.
I'm just happy he's not a problem. Right.
Yeah. But like that feels like you guys have...
Because, you know, there was a time when it was like, oh, you know, Kyrie versus Boston, what was going on here? It's like everything he's done in the last two years, like, no, he was the problem. Yep.
It's kind of like a Russell Wilson Seattle situation, but different, but similar in a way. Well, yeah, he didn't.
Russell Wilson didn't go out and shit on the fucking Seahawks fans and say it's the worst place to play. I feel bad because the signs were there.
First they came for Lucky the Leprechaun, and I said nothing. I'm correcting that right now.
Kyrie, you're full of shit. Yeah.
Billy. So after the Michigan-Michigan State game, which Michigan beat Michigan State pretty badly, there was an altercation in the tunnel leaving the field into the locker rooms where Jaden McBurrows was jumped by many Michigan State players in the tunnel.
It's quite the video, sort of a total gang up on this one player who after the game Jane McBurrows sort of ran into there's one tunnel ran into the locker room area with most of the Michigan State team sort of usually they kind of separate the teams when that happens but he sort of ran in in the wrong crowd sort of also high-fiving fans yeah kind of a little bit of taunting but nothing to sort of uh nothing sort of deserves to for you to be like stomped out by a bunch of dudes but sort of i would agree with that team yeah definitely definitely being probably an asshole before yeah but but it's also it's always when something like this happens like hey michigan state, you could have had that fire and fury when you were getting your shit kicked in on the football field.

It always is like a boxer trying to fight after a fight.

You guys had the chance to be physically imposing to your opponent for 60 minutes and you failed.

And I have no problem at all with what Jim Harbaugh did at the end of that game. Where he was calling trick plays and shit.
I wish he had covered. Trying to put it on him.
Yeah, I wish he had covered. Yeah, he was, one, he was probably trying to cover the spread.
Two, I don't know if you've never watched college football before or paid attention during a college football season, but style points actually matter. Oh, yeah.
They matter, especially in rivalry games. And for the longest time, it was like Harbaugh can't beat any of his rivals.
He's going to try to score as many points as he possibly can on every opponent that he plays against. And you can try to stop him.
You're welcome to do that on the field. But you can't get mad at it afterwards.
Every rivalry should be like that. Every rivalry should have the team.
If you have the upper hand, you should try to bury your opponent because guess what? You get to play again the next year. Yeah.
And you should shit talk after. Shouldn't do that.
Shouldn't jump a player in the tunnel. But I want rivalries to be not cordial at any point.
Credit to Mel Tucker, though. Mel Tucker did go out and try to shake Harbaugh's hand and it seemed like a pretty normal post-game interaction because he knows.
And he's, yeah, he has $95 million. And he's getting paid.
Actually, if Harbaugh was smart, he would actually do everything possible to not get Mel Tucker fired so he could continue to play against him for the next five, six, seven years. Yes.
What were you going to say, Billy? Then there was another player, a Michigan player, Michigan defensive back Jamin Green, who also got hit with a helmet in the tunnel.

Yeah, I mean, that's some lame shit to be taking off your helmet

and swinging at people in a tunnel.

Yeah.

That's assault.

That's assault.

Fighting's back.

Fighting is back.

There's also some fighting in D3.

Heard there's a little scuffle between Amherst and Wesleyan.

Oh, wow.

Those are some lesser programs.

That's expected.

I honestly expect nothing more out of those. That's crazy.
Ragamuffin's the lot. Jake, finish us off.
My who's back is cheating. Apparently, Martin Maldonado of the Astros used an illegal bat during the World Series.
Jake, wait, wait. You said cheating.
That's a very specific word. I seem to recall the phrasing that was used.
The bat was against Major League Baseball rules. I guess that is cheating.
Yeah, no, you mentioned that's exactly cheating. Had anyone else been using this bat? Not this year.
At least. No one else? Albert Pujols.
Oh, what? Seriously?

He was allowed to use it, though.

Oh.

He was grandfathered in.

For how long?

A while, right?

13 years.

Oh, wow.

That's a long grandfathering in.

Okay.

All right.

No, I actually didn't know.

I didn't hear this story, so I was just asking for details.

So, Martin Maldonado used it World Series Game 1.

So, the Astros, are they accused of being cheaters right now? Why isn't this a bigger story? I don't know. Why isn't the media talking about it? It's the Astros.
Yeah. It's crickets.
If Patrick Mahomes does that, the media won't shut up. I have to look up the nitty-gritty details, but if this were the Yankees, good night.
Good night. They'd have to make it to the World Series.
No, you're right. That's a valid point.
That's a fair shot. That's a valid point.

But if Aaron Judge had this or anyone on the Yankees.

Well, Jake, I'm saying we are making a big deal because it is the Astros.

Yeah.

That also is true.

Yeah.

I mean, how big of a rule breaker is it?

I don't know.

They cheated.

Again.

And so did Albert Pujols.

But the Astros blew that game where he used the illegal bat. Yeah, so quickly, Max, how are we feeling? 1-1.
Steal the game, game one. You get one on the road.
Game two did not go so well. I saw a stat that was crazy.
The Astros have given up the same amount of earned runs in the postseason as the Braves and the Mariners. The Braves and the Mariners were both eliminated in the divisional round.
Wow. That's insane.
So the Astros are pretty good. How are we feeling? Good.
Oh, no. That was a question mark at the end.
That was bad. That was bad.
I'm just going to let you know from where I'm sitting, the way you answered that question. I'm worried about game three.
McCullers versus Cindergard is tough. But Bank's a tough place to play.
Yeah. They haven't played at the Bank yet.
They haven't played at the Bank, and this is where we go, and I talk myself back into it. Okay, all right, all right.
But game one was like the best game of all time. Basically should have ended the world series right there yeah yeah i mean that it was that was my that was like a super bowl win right yeah no this is bad no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no if we didn't have all these like stat nerds like dan heron saying oh the world series should be seven games long hang the band guys would already be champions no you've made some mistakes've made some mistakes.
That's not what I meant. That's not what I meant.
That's not what I meant. That's not what I meant.
Zach Wilson. All I'm saying is that it'd be like the Super Bowl after one quarter.
Yeah. Yeah, but, I mean, game one was an electric win.
We took one in Houston. That was the job to do going in.
Okay. mustering up his strength.
You took home field. Correct.
I wish our two aces didn't give up ten runs in the first two games. That's a little worrying knowing that Cindergaard is pitching tomorrow.
But got to play at the bank. Got to play at the bank.
Got to play at the bank. Got to play at the bank.
It's a tough place to play. Got to play at the bank.
It is going to be rocking this week. I'm fired up for my guys.
Okay, so for anyone who's not following the World Series, I'll just distill Max's answer real quick. He essentially just said the Astros are a far better team, but Philly fans are so loud they will hopefully win three games for them.
You just got to say, Max, why not us? That's pretty much what you just said. Why not us? The JT Real Amuto home run was sick also.
I really want to emphasize that was awesome. Can we get some predictions? And one more thing that I really have to say is that those umpires should be in jail for saying that that ball was a home run.
The Schwarber ball was a home run. Because that was ridiculous.
Which one? He had a ball that was clearly foul. It got called a home run.
It got called a home run. He rounded the bases.
He touched home plate. You can't do that.
You can see that it's foul. Call a foul.
You can't. You got exhausted.
How could you? I got exhausted.

I got exhausted.

It took everything out of me, and it took everything out of Philadelphia in that game.

And it's not right.

All the Phillies fans that were there probably got really loud,

and they couldn't get as loud for the rest of the game.

There seems to be a lot of rumors going about who's singing this national anthem tonight.

Yeah. Who is it? Who is it? Is it Boyz II Men? Bruce Springsteen? Will Smith? Well, Taylor Swift sung it in 08.
Meek Mill? If it's Bruce Springsteen, the Big J's. Nope.
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
What will get the bank going the loudest? Meek Mill? No, Meek Mill would. Sly Stallone? No, say.

Stallone?

I don't know.

I don't care about that. Nick Foles?

Nick Foles would be great.

I don't know.

I don't care about the anthem.

I need Syndergaard to give me

Max Capra.

Are you going to kneel?

I need Syndergaard to give me five strong innings and the colors to blow up at the bank. You know what would be sick? If the roots all came out there and the roots somehow performed together.
The roots are great. Listen, no one goes into the bank and comes out alive.
Haven't lost at home yet. Haven't lost at home.
Let's get that confidence back on. This segment has gone terribly for you.
I know, I know, I know. But it's going to be okay.
It's late. It's 4 o'clock in the morning.
It's 4 o'clock in the morning. We're actually a half hour from first pitch.
You know, it's jitters. After game one, I would have said we were going to sweep.
And then after game two, it's like, I don't like that Wheeler just goteler just got to show. Win game three.
You've got to watch some YouTube compilations of Syndergaard back when he was good pitching. Also, all right.
Just tell yourself, like, you can will him and the adrenaline that's going to be going through his system. Four is coming back.
And I'll give you one more. Joseph Verlander, for as good as his career is, he's won in seven in games he started in the World Series.
Correct, but we already beat it. I know, but you got to see him again.
I know. There you go.
There's another win. Wait, Verlander, he's never won a World Series game.
No, I saw the stat. It was one in seven, I think.
No, I don't think Justin Verlander's never won a World Series. No, he might not have won it.
His team is 1-7 in games he started. But Verlander himself.

Yes.

And he looks so fucking old now.

He looks like he's Justin Verlander's dad.

Yeah.

He's big time old.

Oh, shout out Kyle Schwarber.

America, you get free tacos.

Yep. Because Kyle Schwarber stole the base.

And isn't that a free subscription here?

Yeah, that's right.

Kyle Schwarber got America a free subscription.

I thought we needed a triple or something.

Oh, we may have changed the rules a little bit.

I'm sorry. Isn't that a free subscription here? Yeah, that's right.
Couch Warver got America a free subscription. I thought we needed a triple or something.

Oh, we may have changed the rules a little bit.

No, we said something else.

Did we switch it?

Triple or like a...

Was it a balk?

A balk.

A balk.

It was a balk.

Fuck.

We're still balking.

We still got a week.

So no free subscriptions.

I wonder on the record, I'm very confident going on.

Yeah, okay.

I'm very confident.

You just did a PS.

PS. Yes, PS.
PS. Don't get it twisted.
Yeah, okay. I'm just very confident.
You just did a PS. PS.

Yes, PS.

Don't get it twisted.

Yeah, no.

Love my guys.

We're going to win the next three games.

We won't even go back to Houston.

And just remember, Max, just remember,

if a fight starts between the fans and the Astros,

Philly will kick their ass.

Sure.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, there won't be any Houston fans in Philly. It's fine.
No, I'm saying the actual players. Oh.
Sure. The entire stadium versus the actual players.
I was talking about the fans. I was talking about the fans.
I think you guys could beat up the Astros. Said.
Said. Said.
Said. Talking about the fightings.
I also want to clean up the competitive bat thing. It was not a competitive issue.
It was a player safety issue. Ah, that's what they say after cheating.
So Astros fans are going to tweet at me, but they're going to tweet at me before listening to the full show. So somebody could have died.
No, listen. Astros fans are not going to tweet at you because they heard Max just like We're going to score so many runs this week.
All over himself. No, we're going to score so many runs this week.
They turned off the episode as soon as Max started puking on himself. They're like, World Series 1.
We're going to score so many runs. So it looks like they're not going to get in trouble.
All right, let's do numbers. Hank, have you ever won this? Nope.
New PMTV, Hank vs. Machine.
Go watch it. It was great.
You've never won it? Nope. Damn.

I thought you... I'm calling Josh.

No, because they didn't cover.

Fuck you.

Why are you laughing like that?

The only bet you won today was the CLP.

That's true, but the things you were saying to me before about making up fan fiction and

how great it would be...

It was fun.

Yeah.

It cost me another 0-4 week, too.

Yeah, I'm always...

Yeah.

Hungry Dog is Hungry Dog.

There's a big shift in the standings.

Hungry Dog hasn't won this year.

Damn.

I might just do what you do and make it like minus one time.

What are the standings, Jake?

I didn't make you...

Fuck you, Hank.

Don't lash out.

Big Cat's on first, and me and you, PFT, jumped up to a tie for a second with Hank.

It turns out maybe all of us suck at gambling, and Hank isn't the sharpest like he was.

Yeah, Big Cat at 16-16. Boom.
Try to fade that, bitch. You can't.
You'll lose either way. 17.
Josh. 69.
18. Oh, fuck.
I said it first. Sorry, dude.
I'm going to go with. Oh, I said it first.
Fuck. I'm going to go with three for Russ.
I mean, I said it first. Let's ride.
21. Okay.
20. We're going to score so many runs.
Let's ride. Someone gave me a shout out to the guy who gave me that idea.
He's like, why don't you say 69 before Billy if it keeps hitting? That was a good point. 50.
50. You got to be quick to the draw now, Billy.
Yeah. Someone did point out, they're like, 69 has won six times.
Why don't you just say it first? 57th time, now tied for third place. I got fucking backseat Billys everywhere now.
What do you mean? I just got too much information coming my way. What do you mean? About how to win this.
What you mean actually billy's what is it true hank i saw people saying i said people dming me all this shit it's like i just clear out let me let me do wait they're pretending like it's not a game of chance yeah that's what i'm saying and then i think start thinking about it no no no no no no yeah wait so hank is it true though that you guessed sequentially from 1 to 100, but you missed one number and that number hit? People were saying that. The streets are saying that.
I don't think you did it all the way, but you did it for a little bit. There was one.
No, so I was doing it, but obviously I'm me, and there was a couple times where I forgot, like, was I on 23 or 24? And then that happened where I'm pretty sure that happened.

And I said it in real time.

I remember that.

Oh, my God.

People can follow up with what number it was.

So you had a plan that would have worked and you still failed?

Potentially.

Unconfirmed.

Honestly, that's like a...

By the way, his plan also made no sense.

Like, there is no way that you can plan for this machine.

But it did make sense.

But it ended up making sense.

But he screwed it up.

You designed the world's worst plan that worked,

but you didn't execute your terrible plan correctly.

Hey, maybe next episode, Hank.

But we all know that's not going to happen.

When do we start calling the numbers?

When's the first moment we start calling numbers?

What do you mean?

Well, just for the future. Oh, I'm in his head now with the 69 that I got first.
I think once it says, all right, numbers. It says, all right, numbers.
But he shoots the gun, so he can call. He knows what's going to happen.
I actually disagree. I think he has to say numbers, and then you have like a half breath.
Yeah, I don't say it right away. You can go back and check.
I do not usually say the first number. All right, numbers.
Can I just have 69?

This might be unpopular.

No.

Take 69 next time.

This might be unpopular, but I think that you should be able to share numbers.

No.

As long as you have gotten it before.

Should we do a draft?

No, no.

Should we just go on a snake?

Listen, I said 69 first.

You got to be on your toes now.

Fuck.

Can I just have my number?

Another thing I just added to it.

No, it keeps winning.

Why do you want yours?

He wants the sex number so much.

Because you guys don't have the balls to choose it every time like I do.

You don't even like 69ing.

Yeah, you don't.

You said that you don't.

Yeah.

You're more of a head-to-head guy.

Dolphins can't stop.

You can't even.

You're uncomfortable with the number 69, yet You call it your number. It is my number

It's like yin and the yang. Do you like being on top or on bottom?

And do you ever do a standing 69? Yeah. Oh, these weights damn jokes

Wait, didn't you guys have a bet? Oh Oh no Oh my god Jake we did have a bet Yes Jake Jake Jake is the motherfucker who asked You didn't collect the homework You didn't collect the homework That wasn't me You didn't collect the homework That was never me They asked me to remind me He keeps track of everything Jake did literally just do that Jake understands You didn't collect the homework We're dumb So how this show works is me, Big Cat, and Hank forget everything. I really do feel like that kid.
I'm sorry. Billy tries to pretend that all the bad things don't exist.
And then Jake makes sure that everybody's being honest. It's called optimism.
I promise I never did that in school. So, yeah.
Billy, what are we going to do? Because I got the hot sauce right here. All right, well, let's go.
Are we going to do it on air again?

Yeah, might as well.

Just go grab it real quick.

Go grab a cheesesteak.

It's in the fridge.

Oh, bro.

You guys saved one?

Yeah.

That's awesome.

Jake.

All right, Billy, we said douse.

Jake.

I'm going to do another number while he's gone.

We said douse.

Let's see if we can get 17.

69.

69.

69.

69.

This would be incredible. This doesn't count, right? This doesn't count.
Nine. Do another one.
Wow. I really feel like that kid.
I feel dirty right now, Billy. I'm sorry.
I mean, Jake, we needed that. I would have felt so dumb.
I feel gross. Also, it's for they would have been like how come Billy didn't like that is the homework thing so Billy just left and I think he's going to try to convince Hank to let him cheat he's doing something underhanded I'm not sure what it is dude I kind of got him off his game by just saying 69 thanks I can't remember who said it but but someone tweeted me, they're like, if 69 always wins,

just say it first.

I never thought of that. Billy is like legitimately

angry that somebody else is doing

the sex number. He's like, that's my joke.

I think Billy thinks he invented 69.

Oh, the stakes here.

Hey, Hank, I was actually just saying something great

about the Celtics again while you were gone.

Hank, I did two random ones that

didn't count. 12 and 9,

so it wasn't your number still.

So that might have wasted two that you

Thank you. about the Celtics again while you were gone.
Hank, I did two random ones that didn't count. 12 and 9, so it wasn't your number still.

So that might have wasted two that you would have lost.

Do you want more batting practice?

Do you want to do another one?

Nope.

Let's do batting practice.

I'll do one more.

A 17.

Seven.

These don't count.

These do not count.

Nope, it's batting practice.

Yeah, but it's like a, you know.

Yeah, but it's Mickey Mouse because it's on 97 now.

Yeah, these don't count.

Ooh, 17, no, 47. Oh, I saw the seven.
That scared the fuck out of them. That was awesome.
I didn't see the seven. That scared the fuck out of them.
Where'd Billy go? I probably went home. Did you guys already put hot sauce on it? No.
Okay. The true people, the true AWLs are still listening right now.
Max, would you like to say anything about the Phillies? I just really want to say that the Phillies are going to score a ton of runs. I'm going through it right now.
It's just all in my head. I feel good.
No, I... Well...
I'm feeling...

Play it to... It's all in my head.
I feel good. Well, play the Lynx hard.
I mean, it's the dog. Winning that first game, that's pretty much all I needed in the World Series.
I know. Once we won that first game, I said bad things.
I shouldn't have said those things. Game one was better than a Super Bowl.
All right. That's not true.
I did say that. I don't know why that was coming out of my mouth.
The one I ate last time is way worse than this. I did Billy a favor.
I gave him, it's not a dousing, this is a thorough soaking. I soaked it.
Not doused. Alright, Billy.
Oh, he brought milk. Billy, I put less on it than I had when I ate it last week.
And also, this is a Chipotle one, so it had some discoloration. I I didn't put that much on there he's gotta go to sleep after it's so hot in my mouth good luck Billy at least it's cold can we be done after this? I didn't force you to take this bet.

I know.

I took this bet.

But, like, after this one, let's see.

This is what you did the first time, though, where you took the bet and then got mad.

Well, I didn't take the bet originally.

Going forward, Billy, you should say no.

This time I took the bet.

Just say no.

Okay.

Hot sauce.

Just say no.

Okay.

But I'm doing this one.

All right.

But, like, I'm just going to, you know, for the record, we are going to try and get you to agree to them in the future. You have to say no.
Oh, you guys should do a hot sauce bet for the next Pat's Jets game. I will.
I actually thought I'd do one for this one. No.
No, Billy has to shoot himself with an arrow. No, no, no.
No, it was if I – I think it was a bow and arrow. No, no, if it was...

If I had won...

If the Jets won both games.

It's pre-milking.

All right, just take two bites.

He'll send the show.

Took a chaser shot.

It's pre-milking.

How's it taste?

Ow!

It's so hot.

All right. See everyone on Wednesday.
Love you guys. Ow! It's so hot! Alright, see everyone on Wednesday.

Love you guys.

Ow!

Ay-yi-yi!

How's it taste, Billy?

Ow!

This is what the bet's all about.

It is pretty spicy.

Are you going to do an animal fact?

Dolphins can't smell. I'll be done for your lover.
We let you see. I won't say it.

I need some little way.

So I'm in love.

It's okay.

Say it after me.

It's a bad thing.

Say it after me.

It's a bad thing.

Say it after me.

Take on me.

Take on me.

Take on me. Take on me.
Take on me, take me on me

Take me on me, take me on me

And now you are my silhouette

Take me on me, take me on me Baby, I need you Without you on the silhouette Baby, I need you You're all in love, you don't remember You're a shy and a weak I'm a shy and a weak I'm a shy and a weak Bye. Take me on me Take me on me Take me on me passion Take my passion Take my passion Take my knee

Take my knee