Mike Florio, The Bucs Are Dead, NFL Week 8 Picks & Preview + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Speaker 3 Today is Friday, October 28th, and Tom Brady should retire.

Speaker 10 The Buccaneers are a pathetic, pathetic football team.

Speaker 31 Oh my God, Tom Brady should retire.

Speaker 14 The short passes he was throwing tonight were particularly painful. It's all because they were calling these very short passes for him to throw, and he was off target on the easy ones.
It was bad.

Speaker 14 He had a couple wide-open receivers that he missed tonight, and he just looks sad.

Speaker 35 He looks sad.

Speaker 36 He looks like the whole team is not on the same page.

Speaker 11 He's the greatest quarterback of all time.

Speaker 3 Why does he have to keep doing that? Like, this is one of those situations where maybe it was because he thought this defense would be better.

Speaker 31 And he does have more arm strength than Peyton Manning did in his last season.

Speaker 18 But that last, remember that last season of Peyton Manning, where it was just after the first quarter, every game in his Torradol shop, you know, kind of dissipated.

Speaker 5 He just looked sad.

Speaker 43 And we're not all the way there, but the whole team is broken.

Speaker 3 And Tom Brady looks sad. And let me throw this in there, which I think because Tom Brady gets all the headlines and like, what's wrong with him?

Speaker 15 Todd Bulls sucks as a coach.

Speaker 9 I'm sorry. He sucks.

Speaker 14 So you could definitely make the case that

Speaker 14 as bad as the team is right now, some responsibility, if not all of it, needs to go to them.

Speaker 3 They get so many penalties. It's so many dumb things.

Speaker 14 So they're dealing with backup linemen. Their offensive line sucks.
Tom Brady's mad at them.

Speaker 14 They're mad because they're getting embarrassed on national TV by their geriatric quarterback screaming at them because it's past his bedtime. And it's painful to watch.

Speaker 14 It makes you feel bad for Tom Brady, which is something I didn't know could happen. Like, Tom Brady, there's a guy that he's got it all

Speaker 14 until literally the start of this season. Yeah.
Everything fell apart for Tom Brady at the start of the season and on the field, too. Like, I'm not talking about the off-the-field stuff at all.

Speaker 14 I'm saying, like, it's sad. I'm sad watching.

Speaker 20 How badly do you think he could wish he could go back in time and just

Speaker 20 keep the retirement?

Speaker 51 Because

Speaker 1 not only did it, like, he won the Super Bowl at Tampa Bay, so he has seven.

Speaker 3 Obviously, I don't think anyone will ever get close to that in terms of quarterbacking.

Speaker 3 And remember, even though they lost in the playoffs last year, it was that crazy game against the Rams that was like, oh my God, Tom Brady's going to pull one last rabbit out of his hat and they end up losing, but it wasn't him.

Speaker 3 It was the defense and having that lapse at the end of the game to Cooper Cup.

Speaker 38 Like, it was not obviously, you know, going off on his white horse and winning a Super Bowl, but it was pretty close in terms of, holy shit, our lasting memory is like, even at the end, you'd still be afraid of Tom Brady no matter what the score is.

Speaker 20 Now we get to see him on a Thursday night football, which Thursday night football in its own has just become sad.

Speaker 3 and it just looks sad, everything looks sad.

Speaker 55 Yeah, I

Speaker 14 kind of disagree with the fact that he wants to go back

Speaker 14 and change things because

Speaker 14 he, um, you ever make a really bad decision and instead of changing your mind about that decision, you just double down on it.

Speaker 58 Oh, yeah, and then you just dig in, he's tripled down.

Speaker 14 That's basically like kind of what this show is to a certain extent.

Speaker 14 Yeah, and if you're just if if you wait out a take long enough, you'll eventually be right, even if you're very wrong, except Todd Bowles being except Todd Bowles. I'm still

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 60 That might not be a good thing.

Speaker 14 Now, what if he goes to Blaine Gabbert?

Speaker 59 Is it time to put Blaine Gabbert in?

Speaker 61 No, Kyle Trask.

Speaker 14 That's right. Kyle Trask is next up.
He's the future. He's the future.
Put Kyle Trask or Blaine Gabbert in the game.

Speaker 14 Maybe do a little Bailey Zappy Mac Jones with the two of them. Yeah.
And then get a spark going. Maybe that way you can maybe beat the Panthers the next time you play them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and listen,

Speaker 3 obviously the story is Tom Brady because it does look sad. But the Ravens were phenomenal.

Speaker 63 And the Ravens, like, they kind of got their juice back in terms of running the football.

Speaker 20 They ran for 230-plus yards tonight.

Speaker 53 Lamar was incredible.

Speaker 41 Like, I don't know, the Ravens, like, you, I hate doing the argument, like, oh, this team could be 7-0 or this team, but the Ravens have been, they've had a fourth-quarter lead in every game, and they've had some epic failures at the end of games, but it feels like they're starting to get everything right and starting to play that football style that they had a few years back where they just run it down everyone's throat and there was nothing anyone could do.

Speaker 38 Mark Andrews is out in the first quarter in this game and they didn't miss a beat.

Speaker 14 Yeah, so we talk a lot about these Tom Brady conspiracies. We've got Florio on later to talk more about those.
So maybe we can talk about some things that are grounded in facts.

Speaker 14 And Hank, you had a theory about what was going on tonight, right?

Speaker 67 No, I was just saying. I mean, there was a report I saw Jerry Thornton put up.
It was like Giselle gave Tom an ultimatum, you know, retire now. We can maybe, you know, reconsider things.

Speaker 67 And with the way that things are going that feels like a trap i'm just gonna say right now that feels like a trap tom brady if you're listening i know you're in awl that feels like a trap that feels like you'd retire and then she'd be like just kidding but wait we're still divorced wait this was a jerry thornton exclusive report well no that's just where i saw it i'm just crediting my my where i you know where i saw it well and we have the theory because we were supposed to have julian edelman in studio tonight and he had to cancel about an hour or two before the game started and hank put on his tinfoil hat and was like, maybe he knows that Tom Brady's going to retire after this.

Speaker 67 Yeah, I came to the Brady conclusion first after watching the game. I said, this is bad.
He's clearly frustrated. I've never seen him more frustrated after every throw.

Speaker 67 He's pissed off, yelling at receivers, yelling at himself. And I was like, he's going to walk away.
Like, he might just walk off the field and leave. And then it clicked.

Speaker 67 It was like, we were supposed to have Edelman on. He canceled last minute.

Speaker 67 Maybe he knew.

Speaker 70 Maybe he knew.

Speaker 41 That would be the ultimate gambling brain of Tom Brady to be like, I'm just going to play one more game.

Speaker 71 And if we win this one, I'll stay.

Speaker 19 And it's like, no, your team is bad, dude.

Speaker 72 Just go away.

Speaker 14 Well, it's got to be tough on him because he yells at himself so much, like Hank was saying. He's so mad at himself.
Like,

Speaker 14 after every single missed throw, he's just standing alone, just like screaming at his feet. And that's got to be bad for his psyche.

Speaker 14 That's not mentally healthy for anybody.

Speaker 40 And maybe this actually is like his master plan.

Speaker 37 Like, we always give Belichick the benefit of the doubt with every move he makes. He's like, oh, Belichick did it again.

Speaker 37 What if Tom Brady's big plan here was for America to feel bad for him at the end?

Speaker 59 Because it is, like, I do feel bad for him.

Speaker 21 He's the greatest quarterback of all time, and I feel bad.

Speaker 14 I didn't think it was possible to

Speaker 14 feel this way about Tom Brady, right?

Speaker 14 Tom Brady's always been, like, the biggest prick because he's such an all-time winner. And there's never been a reason to even remotely feel bad about Tom Brady.

Speaker 14 And now it's like, I bet Tom Brady would switch places with me if he had the opportunity. Yeah, he probably would.

Speaker 59 Todd Bulls, there's one of them right now.

Speaker 3 I just, I know that this is very meatball-y of me to say, but like, just show a little bit of emotion here and there when your team sucks.

Speaker 35 Scream at someone.

Speaker 75 Get mad at something.

Speaker 38 You know what I mean?

Speaker 20 Or at least at the refs.

Speaker 1 Just do anything.

Speaker 3 Just don't be like half dead the entire time.

Speaker 50 Like he's got Jim Caldwell face where he just like

Speaker 3 do something.

Speaker 14 It reminds me of Steve Nash. Yeah.
Steve Nash, when he's coaching the Nets, just doesn't open his mouth. What's that, Jake?

Speaker 45 Well, yeah, last night. He just got pissed off.

Speaker 76 Yeah. Was that sarcasm?

Speaker 70 Oh, no, I didn't see the Nets.

Speaker 74 Yeah, last night.

Speaker 51 He got kicked out of the game. Good.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 56 But it was tunneled. No, but it was.

Speaker 3 I actually thought you were making this point because it looked awkward.

Speaker 64 I didn't.

Speaker 1 It looked like he was

Speaker 37 like, watch me be mad, and it's like, oh, dude, I don't think you have that in you.

Speaker 1 So maybe I take it back.

Speaker 37 Maybe Todd Bowles shouldn't because we'd feel the same way.

Speaker 80 We'd be like, Todd Bowles, what's wrong with you, dude?

Speaker 14 That's embarrassing. I missed get up this morning.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah,

Speaker 15 he went nuts last night.

Speaker 68 Yeah, and yeah, the Ravens, I have the Ravens back in my good tier.

Speaker 38 Maybe even Super Bowl contender tier.

Speaker 30 I feel like they're just always battling injuries, too.

Speaker 31 So once they get everyone back, and we saw Deshaun Jackson for a minute tonight, look, Tom Brady's getting sacked. We're still watching this game.

Speaker 14 Oh, also, tonight. Tom Brady got the all-time sack record against him.
Yep. So it's a big time.
Where were you?

Speaker 34 Big Ben's off the hook.

Speaker 14 Big Ben was number one.

Speaker 81 Big Ben might, you know, that movie with Bernie Mac, Mr.

Speaker 14 3000, where he comes back just to get the 3,000th hit?

Speaker 14 I wouldn't be shocked if Big Ben tried to come back later on this season and be like, come on, come on, Mike, just put me in the fourth quarter of a game one time for old time's sake, and just let me take one more hit.

Speaker 22 But the only problem is if Tom Brady plays like three more games, he's going to get sacked 25 more times.

Speaker 58 That's true. Because he's just getting brutalized.

Speaker 14 Stathole Sports had the comparison of Tom Brady's season to the classic movie Nightstale with Heath Ledger, where his girl told him, if you really love me, you'll go out there and you'll lose every match that you have.

Speaker 14 And he was so dominant before that and then lost it all for love.

Speaker 4 He's sending Giselle a message.

Speaker 14 Yeah, like, I can't go on without you, babe.

Speaker 31 And you know what it really, you know what does suck, too, is that the people who basically spent the last 10 years saying that Tom Brady is, this is the year, they got the satisfaction.

Speaker 81 No, they shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 82 Not really.

Speaker 55 They did.

Speaker 49 Not really.

Speaker 58 That's not true, but because people didn't do it this year. I know what you're saying.

Speaker 14 Yeah. That's what we were talking to, like, Fitzpatrick and Jason McCordy about.

Speaker 14 We were saying, like, somebody needs to be the Max Kellerman to say, like, I think Tom Brady, this is the year that Father Time wins. Right.

Speaker 81 But nobody really did that this year. Yeah.

Speaker 15 And if he gets this over, it's like they're fighting for the over for you, hey.

Speaker 67 Code status forever.

Speaker 1 We'll stay on until we find out if he gets the over here.

Speaker 19 I'll do an ad real quick.

Speaker 14 This would be an all-time part of my take moment if we spent the last like 12 minutes literally burying Tom Brady.

Speaker 60 Oh, we'll keep it all in.

Speaker 56 And then, yeah, an on-side kick, like a touchdown on-side kick.

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Speaker 3 The Bucs are still trying to get the over for us.

Speaker 14 I mean, that'd be awesome if Mike Evans got a touchdown right here.

Speaker 85 I'm rooting for you guys.

Speaker 14 Tom Brady no longer washed if he just passes it to my sweet boy, Mike.

Speaker 52 Yeah, so I don't know what else.

Speaker 37 I mean, like I said, the Ravens are back, and the Bucs,

Speaker 53 they're just pathetic. What's their schedule coming up?

Speaker 69 Because they need to play like

Speaker 70 they need to play

Speaker 58 Northwestern.

Speaker 87 I was going to say they need to play Northwestern.

Speaker 14 Not to jinx everything, but

Speaker 14 things are looking pretty good for my Falcons' future.

Speaker 61 Yeah.

Speaker 76 Ooh, they're home against the Rams.

Speaker 17 That's going to be a tough one.

Speaker 76 Home against the Seahawks.

Speaker 21 The Browns and Saints.

Speaker 50 They're never going to win again. They're just never going to win a game again.

Speaker 61 Over bye week at least?

Speaker 70 No.

Speaker 76 Yeah, after Germany.

Speaker 45 Yeah, after the Seahawks. Okay.

Speaker 14 Big news, though.

Speaker 67 And think about it. If you had a big hat, I know you.
If you had a trip to Germany and your team was playing bad and you could retire.

Speaker 29 Well, you could get to get some kind of treatments.

Speaker 78 Maybe to get...

Speaker 3 I wouldn't be shocked if Tom Brady got everyone the treatment.

Speaker 88 I don't know.

Speaker 67 Long flight's a great thing to push off.

Speaker 14 I think Giselle's family spent enough time and effort trying to get out of Germany.

Speaker 45 Everything's batted ball now.

Speaker 76 You know what the Bucs fans should say if they lose that game?

Speaker 77 Leave Coach Bowles in Germany. Yeah.

Speaker 72 That's good. I've never heard that one before.

Speaker 14 I like that one.

Speaker 14 The other big news was LeBron James disavowed the Dallas Cowboys. Oh, wow.
He broke it up. Friendship over the Dallas Cowboys.
The Cleveland Browns are now my new best friend, LeBron James.

Speaker 14 Because he thought the Cowboys are too problematic. So now

Speaker 28 he's rooting for the Browns.

Speaker 56 Okay.

Speaker 14 Who don't have any skeletons in their closet?

Speaker 44 He has no idea, Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 45 No idea.

Speaker 10 There's a flag on the play, a touchdown, but a flag on the play.

Speaker 31 I feel like it's against

Speaker 67 an offside.

Speaker 37 I feel like that one's against the Bucs.

Speaker 3 Julio Jones made an appearance.

Speaker 44 Also, turns out getting a bunch of guys who are still

Speaker 78 the over.

Speaker 14 Touchdown? Yes.

Speaker 56 Yes.

Speaker 91 Wait, 49 seconds.

Speaker 21 Yep.

Speaker 91 Spent too much time on the clock.

Speaker 60 If they're going to do an on-side kick.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Also, later on in the show, we talk about the NFL upcoming weekend, and that was taped before Tony got traded to the Chiefs. Yes.

Speaker 14 So now he's on the Chiefs, and everybody's like, that's not fair to give Patrick Mahomes this weapon

Speaker 14 of a guy that I think he has like two catches. How many NFL catches does Tony have?

Speaker 35 Oh, he's got more than that. He had like one or two explosive games in his

Speaker 81 head. He had that one big game.

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 41 He had like a really nice game.

Speaker 15 Oh, another sad.

Speaker 26 It's just like dropped passes, sad footpath.

Speaker 49 Oh, there's another flag.

Speaker 45 It's just sad.

Speaker 92 The Bucs also are, I feel like...

Speaker 35 Anecdotally,

Speaker 3 they run the most plays that just don't count because they'll just be like, they'll run a really long play and then there'll be a flag and have to run it again.

Speaker 14 they just spend so much extra time running plays that don't end up meaning anything flag on on queen this would be so funny that's how they buried her 50 41 catches you're on a roll for crigarious tony how many 41 oh wow okay yeah that's that's significantly more than i thought he had yeah he i remember he had one explosive game he was out for uh for most of the season though i just wonder if he's going to be one of those guys that gets to kansas city and he's healthy i think i think he's definitely retiring after this game how the refs are

Speaker 39 well, no, because they have this comeback.

Speaker 31 Oh, and then that's officially it.

Speaker 9 Just absolutely stuffed.

Speaker 15 Tom Brady is just standing there.

Speaker 3 All right, let's do.

Speaker 3 You know what? If they come back and win, let's just keep all this in. That would be very funny.

Speaker 9 So we were supposed to have Jules on.

Speaker 3 Hank

Speaker 20 asked for us to wait to do the lottery ball machine for when Jules was in here because he said, quote unquote, I want to get my first win with Jules.

Speaker 5 We were like, well,

Speaker 22 we're still going to end the show with the lottery ball machine because that's what we've been doing for two plus years now.

Speaker 19 Watch PM TV out now.

Speaker 3 Hank first machine.

Speaker 4 He's just getting dominated.

Speaker 3 But at the end of the show, I did tell him we would do an extra one when Jules was here.

Speaker 4 This is before we knew Jules is out.

Speaker 29 So, Hank, this one's official.

Speaker 1 This counts.

Speaker 59 You get two cracks in it today.

Speaker 27 17.

Speaker 50 And you're still not going to get it.

Speaker 14 You're going 17?

Speaker 56 I'm going 17.

Speaker 91 If someone else gets it, does it count?

Speaker 56 Yes.

Speaker 3 This is an officially sanctioned lottery ball machine.

Speaker 1 What were the numbers that we haven't gotten?

Speaker 21 Spoiler.

Speaker 56 Oh, well, just tell me one of them.

Speaker 21 Six. Six.
Okay, I'm going with six.

Speaker 14 I'm going with 12 for Tom Brady.

Speaker 67 Also, NASCAR this Sunday is part of my cheese stick car.

Speaker 56 Check it out.

Speaker 76 This is our first doubleheader since August 28th, 2022.

Speaker 21 Wow. You could forget.

Speaker 39 Okay, Max.

Speaker 43 It's 20.

Speaker 73 And then we're going to go right into Florio.

Speaker 45 And then our weekend preview.

Speaker 43 18.

Speaker 14 If Hank gets it, everyone's going to be so mad.

Speaker 44 Oh,

Speaker 44 79.

Speaker 70 I thought that was 69 for you.

Speaker 67 I thought it was 78.

Speaker 25 Whoa.

Speaker 56 Hank,

Speaker 2 just like I predicted, you weren't going to get this one.

Speaker 21 Good one. All right.

Speaker 2 Let's go into Florio, and then we have week eight picks and preview and Firefest.

Speaker 79 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend,

Speaker 32 recurring guest.

Speaker 4 You can see him all the time on the cock, pro football talk.

Speaker 20 He's got a website, too.

Speaker 44 It's 21st anniversary coming up on Tuesday.

Speaker 36 Do I have that right, Michael?

Speaker 95 21 years.

Speaker 14 Incredible.

Speaker 95 2001, November 1, we launched, spawning ultimately the career of your co-host. That was our only purpose.
We all have a purpose.

Speaker 61 That was our purpose.

Speaker 60 Thank you.

Speaker 14 Thank you, mom and dad, for making a website.

Speaker 14 At any point leading up to that, where you're like, there's a little bit more going on in the world right now in the fall of 2001. Maybe I shouldn't be using my time on a sports website?

Speaker 95 Well, you know what happened was I was actually working for ESPN.com at the time 9-11 happened. I mean, you're hitting the nail right on the head.
I was practicing law full-time.

Speaker 95 And as far as ESPN knew, I was working on... their insider NFL website full-time.
And it was like a weird sitcom premise trying to keep them from finding out I also was a full-time lawyer.

Speaker 95 And they offered me a one-year contract extension right after 9-11. It's like, you know, this life is too much.
I'm working for ESPN from 5 a.m. until 11 a.m.

Speaker 95 And I'm trying to run my law practice after that. And this just isn't working.
I want to start my own thing. I want to have immediacy with what I write.

Speaker 95 I don't want to have to wait for three hours for it to go through levels of editorial. And

Speaker 95 that was when I decided, fuck it. I'm just going to do my own thing.

Speaker 54 I love it.

Speaker 1 So looking back 21 years, it's a crazy accomplishment.

Speaker 4 I mean, we joke with you all the time and we, you know, belittle you and call you crazy.

Speaker 52 You did lose your mind the last few years, but the last 20, you know, being on the internet for 21 years, day in and day out, is incredible because, you know, we live it on our side.

Speaker 75 We know how hard that is.

Speaker 96 It's an incredible accomplishment.

Speaker 3 What's the one story that you look back and you're like, yep, that's the one that I loved writing, reporting, breaking, whatever it may be?

Speaker 95 I think the one that really got us on the map happened when they found a dogfighting yard on Mike Vick's property in Surrey County, Virginia, and everyone was trying to brush it under the rug.

Speaker 95 And my instincts from the get-go pointed to the idea that there's no way he didn't know what was going on. There's no way he's clueless about this.
And he denied it, denied it, denied it.

Speaker 95 We kept pushing. And some people think.
It never would have come to a head if we didn't push it as hard as we did. I don't believe that.
If people want to think that, that's fine.

Speaker 95 But I think that was kind of the moment we truly arrived. That was 2007, April, May, June timeframe.
But it was just kind of a gradual, slow-rolling snowball.

Speaker 95 We saturated the people in the business: coaches, GMs, agents, media people. And that's still the case.

Speaker 95 If we could ever get the same percentage of fans that we have, percentage of people in the business who live on the website, I'd be able to retire a couple of times over. Yeah.
It's just never really

Speaker 95 caught on that. And that's fine.
I'm happy with where we are, but it's not the same saturation of the fan base as it is the saturation of the people who are actually in the business.

Speaker 70 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 14 Well, I wanted to bring up something that I saw you put out, a more recent thing that you've done here.

Speaker 14 This was October 23rd, a picture of you in your garage, and you're staying next to, I mean, it looks like you got some great cars there.

Speaker 14 Don't want to speculate, but that looks like it might be an Audi or an Acura. And you're wearing a nice suit on top, really nice suit.

Speaker 14 And then on bottom, you're wearing like size 55 athletic shorts and then slippers. Is this what you're wearing when I see you on TV? Are you wearing, it's an absurd outfit.

Speaker 95 Well, and it's funny because the night before, it was my nephew's senior year homecoming.

Speaker 61 Oh, yeah, Michael Pauly.

Speaker 49 Yeah, we saw the Michael Pauly. Paulie, Michael.

Speaker 32 Mikey Pauly.

Speaker 95 and

Speaker 95 and we had a bunch of the kids here because it's a very picturesque you guys have been here in the fall very very nice place to do photos and so my wife saw me going upstairs to the studio for football night in america and she just started laughing she's like you look ridiculous and she pulled her phone up and she took a picture and she sent it to me and it's like you know what the hell and yeah that's what's the point what's the point i mean i have jeans on right now but like what's this picture is ridiculous though you have to admit.

Speaker 98 It's fine.

Speaker 14 Have you looked at it before you posted it? Because it's.

Speaker 95 I don't care. You guys don't understand.
I mean, you know me well enough. Big Cat knows me well enough to know I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 No, I know you don't give a fuck.

Speaker 16 I mean, that's very clear with

Speaker 41 how your brain has gone the last few years.

Speaker 10 You don't care.

Speaker 73 You don't care.

Speaker 61 All right, so let's talk some football, Mike, because we do have football. We're talking about football.

Speaker 1 Why? Let's do big picture.

Speaker 37 Why does this season suck so far?

Speaker 95 Why do you think it sucks? You mean from the standpoint of not enough points?

Speaker 63 That was a trick question.

Speaker 79 It doesn't suck because it's football.

Speaker 61 But why?

Speaker 1 There has been some complaints about maybe not the best games,

Speaker 4 a lot of Broncos games in prime time, some low-scoring games.

Speaker 63 Is there any reason, like talking to people in the league, is there anything that you can point to, or is this just a cyclical thing that we have to deal with?

Speaker 41 And eventually we'll get the great football later on in the year.

Speaker 95 I think there's a couple of factors here.

Speaker 95 And obviously, we know it takes time for offenses offenses to get going because of limited reps now in training camp and offseason and the preseason is down to three games.

Speaker 95 It takes the offenses a while to catch up with the defenses. And also, we've been spoiled the last five years by a great young group of quarterbacks and a great old group of quarterbacks.

Speaker 95 Well, now the old quarterbacks aren't as great as they were, and it shows. And the Russell Wilson stuff, we've had four of their games in primetime.

Speaker 95 We got three more standalone Broncos games, and he just doesn't have it anymore. He's only 33, but he lost his mobility to the extent that he used to have it and it's affected his game and that hurts.

Speaker 95 Sims has a theory. Chris Sims, co-host PFT Live Monday through Thursday, although it's Tuesday through Thursday in season.

Speaker 92 Noted Blake Bortle's hater, but go ahead.

Speaker 51 And Spleen Havert.

Speaker 95 Yeah, no Spleen Gene.

Speaker 95 He thinks that we've gotten to the point in the NFL where the defensive linemen are so good. They just overpower the offensive lines.

Speaker 95 And there are so many good defensive linemen, and there's so much value placed on pass rusher that they are just systematically overpowering. And, you know, you watch the average game.

Speaker 95 There's a lot of holding. You see guys coming around the edge and they're getting grabbed and they're getting pulled and they're looking the other way on it.

Speaker 95 They're trying to keep the quarterbacks upright and let them do their thing. I think that's one of the big factors as well.
And the scoring's down. And the NFL says it doesn't bother them.

Speaker 95 But you know what? When the scoring's up, they send out press releases every Monday. Hey, the scoring's up.
Hey, record pace, this, that, and the other thing.

Speaker 14 The scoring's down, and the games aren't as exciting, but it is still football so but that's a good answer i mean the defensive lineman answer is something i haven't really thought about i you know it is we do have an insane uh group of talent when it comes to guys who can get to the quarterback so that's yeah that's a good answer do you think that's because there's they're taking kids that are excelling at football in high school and and early years of college, guys that are like stronger and more aggressive, that could be playing on the offensive line.

Speaker 14 They're like, we could use you more.

Speaker 95 It's more important to have a strong pass rush than it is to to build you up on the offensive like are we steering people that are that would be great like guards and centers are we putting them along the defensive line instead i mean certain body types it's not going to matter but when you have a guy you know like a tight end basketball player type and that body can get molded in different ways instead of putting 80 pounds on him and making him a left tackle, you let him stay streamlined and you let him be be the guy that goes around the edge and gets after the quarterback like Kayvon Thibodeau.

Speaker 95 So I think that as we saw how much money pass rushers make, how important they are, and it's usually around the postseason when they really remind us how important they are.

Speaker 95 And how many Super Bowls have we seen in the past 15 years where a great pass rush just overwhelms a great quarterback. It goes back to Super Bowl 42, Gives Patriots.

Speaker 95 There have been several since then where it's like, we're reminded, you know, probably a good idea to have good pass rushes.

Speaker 95 And guys who want to get paid they're going to gravitate toward the skill sets they're going to set them up to to get the money and and really between offensive and defensive line what are your stats if you're an offensive lineman anybody gives a about yeah if you're a pass rusher you got sacks and so you have a way to chase some glory and become a star and make a hell of a lot of money so i think there's something to that that you know guys get pigeonholed and they get pushed one direction or the other as they're coming up and guys are going to willingly say, I want to be a pass rusher more than I want to be a pass blocker.

Speaker 14 Yeah, there's no fantasy stats for an offensive lineman. You don't get credit for pancake.

Speaker 32 You should start doing that.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you should do fantasy league for us.

Speaker 70 Should we do that?

Speaker 14 Do you think that's possible, Mike?

Speaker 95 Don't. I'm not.

Speaker 27 I'm not.

Speaker 10 Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, fine, fine, fine.

Speaker 87 Uh, we,

Speaker 52 we love to play a game here where we can just hypothesize on what stories you love to write about.

Speaker 4 When Tua got concussed for the second time in two weeks, we're like, oh, this is Florio.

Speaker 3 Like he's, he's going to be all over this.

Speaker 49 And I also am guessing you love this new protocol where if anyone stands up and wobbles a little, they're out for like three weeks.

Speaker 96 How much are you loving this?

Speaker 1 Because you love, you like, you like Sky Judge for the pass interference.

Speaker 30 You like the game being as slow as possible and as many reviews as possible.

Speaker 95 You know, I'm just going to ignore the gratuitous shit that you're adding to your comment and just answer your question.

Speaker 95 Look, I think it's very important for the NFL to take the health and safety of the players seriously because if the players don't, that's one of the things we learned through the Tua example.

Speaker 95 He was the one selling the back injury stuff stronger than anyone to the point where the doctors bought it and didn't even bother to think maybe he's selling us a bill of goods here after they saw him wobble around.

Speaker 95 I think that the future of the sport

Speaker 95 is so critically tied to the willingness of parents to let their kids play that the the NFL has to button up its protocols to the point where it's perfection and hope that those protocols trickle down.

Speaker 95 I look at what happened between Sunday, September 25th and Thursday, September 29th, and then throw in this Cameron Brait thing that didn't get the attention it should have where he had a head injury, was off the field for a couple of plays, somehow got back in, and God forbid.

Speaker 95 he would have gotten another head injury. That's what's what happens to high school players.

Speaker 95 I mean, if I'm the parent of a a high school kid now and I see that, I say, if the NFL can't protect their guys, what hope does Rinky Dink a little high school conference ever have of protecting my son?

Speaker 95 And, you know, I lived through that three years of my son playing high school football, scared to death every snap. What's going to happen to him? And I think the NFL needs to.

Speaker 95 to instill enough confidence in parents. And Big Hey, you're going to be there soon enough.

Speaker 20 No, no, these are good points.

Speaker 1 These are good points.

Speaker 95 And so you want to do everything you can to make sure people realize they have faith in the the system they need to do more at the high school level there needs to be a greater willingness to pull guys off the field there's still kids dying every year in high school football but the moment that parents say no more

Speaker 95 no more

Speaker 95 that's the moment it becomes harder for the nfl to have a supply of quality football players so it's an existential reality and it bubbled up 10 years ago and it's kind of back now with this tua stuff and they're hoping that it dies down and parents don't freak out and tell their kids they can't play football so that's the quorum it's a good it's a good it's a good answer to a uh to that question you did love love writing about it.

Speaker 45 You did.

Speaker 15 You did.

Speaker 95 Look, I like good stories.

Speaker 95 Whatever it is that people are interested in, my guiding light 21 years ago was if I'm interested in it, I assume enough other people are going to be interested in it to come read it.

Speaker 95 So sometimes I'll admit my sense of what's interesting is a little fucked up, but that's the privilege of owning it.

Speaker 95 If I think I like it and I know some other people don't like it, too bad. You judges scroll by it if you don't like it.
Tough shit. Keep going and you'll find a story.

Speaker 44 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 14 I remember 10 years ago, you were like, I think it'd be really interesting if Terry Bradshaw was dead. Yeah.
And then you blogged out.

Speaker 27 10 years ago.

Speaker 56 And you're like, yeah, I mean, I'm sure.

Speaker 84 He'll eventually be right.

Speaker 14 I'm going to credit you when he does die.

Speaker 52 And I'm sure you're not going to be able to do that.

Speaker 97 As first reported on FirstFootballTalk.com.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what the internet needs more?

Speaker 31 It needs, you know, 50 more blogs on Tom Brady having a conversation with Steven Ross once.

Speaker 1 That's the stuff, you know?

Speaker 16 That's the juice.

Speaker 95 It was more than once.

Speaker 82 It was more than once.

Speaker 36 I knew you. Yeah, but what happens?

Speaker 56 How many times? What happens is this.

Speaker 14 Every time we bring it up on this show, Hank comes at me and he's like, you you and your stupid internet dad with your little twitter fingers love to speak

Speaker 95 problem with he thinks that is fake news he thinks that tom brady wasn't actually going to be the owner of the dolphins the guy's bruce beale not stephen ross bruce beal's the right-hand man of stephen ross beal and brady are tight and this has been coming for several years and they try as as the nfl found i mean i don't know what else i need to say The NFL issued a statement saying they tampered with Tom Brady in 2019.

Speaker 95 They tampered with Tom Brady in 2020. They tampered with him in 2021.
They tampered with him in 2022. This was all Bruce Beale trying to get Tom Brady onto the Dolphins and talking about it too much.

Speaker 95 Tampering happens all the time. Most people keep their mouths shut about it.
Beal was talking about it too much.

Speaker 95 And I also think that the NFL knew that Stephen Ross was trying to tank in 2019 to get Joe Burrow, but they don't want to tell the world that that's going on.

Speaker 95 So they felt like they had to get him some way, and this kind of fell into their laps.

Speaker 14 Hank, do you have a comment about that? So, Murta, you're not supposed to say a thing. Yeah.

Speaker 67 Yeah, I mean, I said that early on. I think details have come out that might lend that to be true.

Speaker 67 But early on, before you know, all the facts came out,

Speaker 67 it seemed like a tell tale.

Speaker 78 Well, he was bringing the facts out.

Speaker 49 Yeah, he was the best giver.

Speaker 51 That's when Mike was in the field.

Speaker 95 You want some reckless speculation?

Speaker 97 Yes. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 95 Some maybe informed speculation.

Speaker 1 By the way, this is Mike Florio from his barn. Nothing can be held against him when he's in his barn.

Speaker 51 No, international.

Speaker 95 There's a theory.

Speaker 95 There's a theory in league circles, and I think I'm couching it properly, that the issues with Tom Brady and his wife blew up when the league announced the punishment of the Dolphins because of the flirtation with Brady because she had, as the theory goes, no idea he was talking to the Dolphins about playing against the game.

Speaker 55 So Cadel

Speaker 8 got Brady divorced. Wow.

Speaker 61 I like this, Mike.

Speaker 95 I won't take it that step.

Speaker 67 That is reckless speculation.

Speaker 95 But I'm telling you, there are people who are employed by NFL teams who think, and when you look at the timeline, that stuff came out, and it was the next day he started missing practices.

Speaker 14 Ultimate Snake movie.

Speaker 87 I like this, Mike.

Speaker 14 He thought four games for Deflate Gate was bad. He's going to end your marriage.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 45 Mike,

Speaker 44 you got the goods, man.

Speaker 1 All right, so we'll do a more sensitive subject. You know, that was too much where Hank

Speaker 39 was hitting him in tough spots.

Speaker 63 Around the league, do people think Bill Belichick has lost his fastball?

Speaker 95 Look, I think here's the issue with Bill Belichick.

Speaker 95 And

Speaker 35 it's very simple.

Speaker 8 Hank is giving you a face right now, by the way.

Speaker 95 That's okay. That's okay.
He's got two kids working for him. And if one of those kids needs to be fired, he can't do it.
And that makes it impossible for him to hold other people accountable.

Speaker 95 I think that's the root of where things kind of got wobbly. You know, they get their asses kid 47 to 17 in the playoffs.
Maybe Steve Belichick should have been fired.

Speaker 95 You can't fire Steve Belichick if you're Bill. That's the problem with nepotism, which is rampant in coaching.
And there's reasons for it.

Speaker 95 Gives the coach a way to reconnect with the kid that he ignored while the kid was growing up because he was working all the time. And now they get to work together all the time.

Speaker 95 And the kid's been around the game. So the kid's not freaked out by it.
The kid's in a position where he understands the sport and he can maybe ease right into it as a good coach.

Speaker 95 But I think that's part of the problem. When you can't hold your kids accountable, you can't hold anybody accountable.

Speaker 95 And then you hear a lot of Belichick saying, I'm responsible, I'm responsible, I'm responsible. He's got all those Super Bowl rings.

Speaker 95 He doesn't want to have to hold anyone accountable because he can't hold his kids accountable. I think that's the root of it.
And then this

Speaker 95 Josh McDaniels leaves.

Speaker 97 And so we did. They made the playoffs last year.

Speaker 45 For the record, they did make the playoffs last year.

Speaker 47 Hank wants to do that.

Speaker 95 They did make the playoffs, but they lost 47-17 for the record, too. And then Josh McDaniels leaves.
And Joe Judge and Matt Patricia are giving the keys to the offense.

Speaker 95 And people are like, what the fuck's going on with that? If it was any other coach, we'd be laughing.

Speaker 95 We'd be like, this is ridiculous. Remember when Andy Reid decided to make Juan Castillo the defensive coordinator when he'd been the offensive line coach? And people were like, what the this is crazy.

Speaker 95 That's what we'd be saying about Belichick if he didn't have six Super Bowl wins. So, hey, they're getting better.

Speaker 56 But he does. He does.

Speaker 49 Yeah, he does.

Speaker 36 He's the best coach of all time.

Speaker 95 Look at the stuff with Mac Jones. Something weird is going on with Mac Jones.

Speaker 95 I don't think Mac Jones likes the fact that he's gone from Josh McDaniels to a couple of guys who weren't offensive coaches. I think Mac Jones is maybe complaining too much about that to other people.

Speaker 95 It's gotten back to Belichick.

Speaker 95 And now there's, you know, Belichick proving a point with some of this stuff that's going on.

Speaker 56 This is what I say.

Speaker 32 These are just, you guys are just making this up.

Speaker 56 No, no, no, fan fiction.

Speaker 14 Hank, Mike would never just like make something like that.

Speaker 56 That sounds like a

Speaker 61 anti-Patriots erotica.

Speaker 44 I want to defend Mac Jones for a second.

Speaker 1 I would defend Mac Jones and that if Matt Patricia became my offensive coordinator, I would complain.

Speaker 99 I'd be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 49 Like, what are we doing? It's either him.

Speaker 87 I mean, Hank, look at what happened Monday night.

Speaker 95 What the fuck was that? He starts the game and then they yank him out. And Belichick says that was the plan all along.

Speaker 95 And guys like Ramondre Stevenson and Jacoby Myers are like, that wasn't the plan all along.

Speaker 67 They said that pregame, though, that that was the plan going into the game.

Speaker 64 Yeah.

Speaker 51 What, Mike?

Speaker 14 Not after like one or two series, I don't think. Like, that's there's no chance that that was the plan to take Mac Jones out that early in the game.

Speaker 67 Well, do you have any intel on the ESBN Skycam wire?

Speaker 95 The ball did not hit the Sky Cam wire.

Speaker 27 Of course.

Speaker 95 Can I just say that? Can I just say this? I don't know that I'm supposed to say this, but I'm going to say it anyway.

Speaker 97 Go off.

Speaker 95 I've seen the Sky Cam video.

Speaker 95 The thing doesn't wobble at all when the ball supposedly hits the wire.

Speaker 74 Interesting.

Speaker 97 The camera angle is straight and true the whole time.

Speaker 67 There's a stabilizer in the camera.

Speaker 54 How do you know that, Hank?

Speaker 1 This brings up a question I don't think I've ever asked you. What fan base hate you the most?

Speaker 61 They all do.

Speaker 15 No, but there's got to be one.

Speaker 57 There's got to be one that it's like, it becomes personal.

Speaker 95 It depends on what is going on at any given time.

Speaker 95 When Joe Burrow, for example, is coming out in the draft, and I'm told by people that I know and trust who are connected to Joe Burrow that he's thinking about making a power play and not playing for the Bengals.

Speaker 95 And someone tells me, as it's quoted off the record, of course, in Playmakers. If Joe Burrow was from Athens, Georgia and not Athens, Ohio, he wouldn't have played for the Bengals.

Speaker 95 I had Bengals fans mad at me, even though it was 100% true. Well, no, I can confirm.

Speaker 84 can. I can confirm that.

Speaker 14 I offered Joe Burrow, hypothetically, a $100 million guaranteed contract to go to the XFL at the time instead of the NFL. And he said, if you can get me $100 million guaranteed, I'll do it.

Speaker 94 So you're right.

Speaker 95 The Dolphins fans with 2-A-NON, I hear you.

Speaker 51 Well, you're wrong about that.

Speaker 95 What do you mean?

Speaker 81 2-0 exists.

Speaker 17 Expect us.

Speaker 62 You and your butt buddy Chris Sims think that Tu is not a good quarterback when he's proven that he is.

Speaker 95 What happens is when you just tell the truth and you say what you think and you'll criticize any team and you don't try to sugarcoat it, people get pissed off at you when you say bad things about their team.

Speaker 95 That's just the way it is. People watch games and they get mad at the announcers.
That's true. Announcers biased in favor of one team or the other.
It's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 95 But that's how fans are. And the passion.

Speaker 95 that draws them to the sport and gets them to consume our content, yours and mine, that's the passion that makes them go a little nutty sometimes when they think somebody's being unfair with their team.

Speaker 95 So I can live with it.

Speaker 14 Is there a fan base that likes you? I get the feeling that the Saints fan base likes you because you're openly antagonistic sometimes of the NFL and they dig that about you.

Speaker 95 Well, I mean, I won over the Saints fans because I thought Bountygate was bullshit and said so. I won over Patriots fans for a while because I thought Deflategate was bullshit.
and said so.

Speaker 95 And really, anytime the NFL goes after one of these teams, that's when I have an opportunity to start looking for the bullshit. And more often than not, I find it.

Speaker 95 Now, it doesn't win me any fans at 345 Park Avenue. That's a different story altogether.

Speaker 95 But the fan bases that feel persecuted by the league, those are the ones that end up aligning with me because I feel like far more often than not, the league has some agenda and they clumsily investigate these cases and they make an example out of someone.

Speaker 95 And And it ends up being something that was just handled in a very pissed poor way.

Speaker 81 So maybe

Speaker 14 can you give me a little bit of news that'll make me happy with you? That'll make me like, yeah, I love Florio. He's always right about everything.

Speaker 14 Can you just tell me that Snyder is going to have to sell the team, that Jim Ursa, the power play that he's putting on Dan Snyder is going to work?

Speaker 95 Well, I think what needs to happen there is we all need to keep pressuring the league to do the right thing and be objective and fair because the Beth Wilkinson investigation would have resulted in a report if they had actually asked her for a written report that would have included a recommendation that he be forced to sell the team.

Speaker 95 And the league brushed that under the rug because they didn't want to take on Dan Snyder at the time.

Speaker 95 And I think the concern was the league didn't want to set a precedent that could be used against other owners, where you have one disgruntled employee who complains loudly enough, they feel compelled to have an investigation, and then the investigator starts finding all this shit.

Speaker 95 And the next thing you know, the owner's got to sell. They don't want that.

Speaker 95 coming back around and being used against them.

Speaker 95 And also, this idea from the ESPN report of a couple of weeks ago that there's a concern that Snyder's got dirt on people, people, that he's ready to unleash. That's part of it, too.

Speaker 95 I just think that there's a chance, and Albert Breer mentioned this the other day, that this all gets brushed under the rug with the Mary Joe White investigation, that they find that the claim made by Tiffany Johnston that sparked the Mary Joe White investigation, that goes nowhere.

Speaker 95 The notion that money was being moved around in a way that screwed the other owners, that is inconclusive. And they just don't go after Dan Snyder.

Speaker 95 If they go after this guy, it's going to be expensive. It's going to take time because he's going to dig in.
He's already dug in. And

Speaker 95 I think some owners too,

Speaker 95 I think they like the fact

Speaker 95 that

Speaker 95 the commanders are dysfunctional.

Speaker 95 You always say dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things. So, hey, what a shock.

Speaker 95 Jerry Jones wants Dan Snyder to be in place because he's more likely to kick the shit out of the commanders twice a year if that's the case.

Speaker 95 And there are owners who like having bad owners and dysfunctional teams because it's easier to win games if you know there's a cluster of teams out there that are run by bad ownership.

Speaker 95 So, yeah, I look, I like what RC has done, and I think the time has come for Dan Snyder to be gone. Yep, but it's not going to be as easy.

Speaker 95 And I think we all need to keep pushing and pushing and pushing the NFL to do the right thing.

Speaker 19 It's my theory about the ownerships in all major sports, but the NFL in particular, there are a group of owners that don't have any desire.

Speaker 52 They have desire to win a Super Bowl, but they will never take the steps to actually win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 79 They're hoping they'll luck into one, and

Speaker 30 you basically can take advantage of those teams every single year.

Speaker 1 So speaking of my team, is Virginia McCasky when she passes away? She might live forever.

Speaker 13 I hope she does live forever.

Speaker 1 Will the Bears sell and move to Arlington Heights?

Speaker 1 Because I've always assumed that's a two-part thing where the Bears are going to move because some rich person is going to come and buy the team and the land because they want to own their own stadium.

Speaker 44 Is that going to happen, you think?

Speaker 95 Here's one of the big realities, and it's happened from time to time.

Speaker 95 It happened with the Commanders when Jack Kent Cook had to sell to Snyder.

Speaker 95 The franchise value rises to the point where when you throw it in with the rest of the estate and someone in the family inherits it, they got to come up with 40% of the total value of the estate to give to the federal government.

Speaker 95 And as these values are going up and up and up, Broncos went for $4.65 billion. The Seahawks, I think, will go for 5 billion plus when they're sold.

Speaker 95 And I think they will be sold in May of 2024 at or about that time. And the values keep going up because of all the money that's coming in from gambling and the increased TV money.

Speaker 95 And it's just more and more and more. So the point is this.

Speaker 95 Unless the McCaskies have a very good plan in place to transfer equity. when she passes,

Speaker 95 they may be in a position where they get a tax bill that the only way they can pay it is to sell the team. That's what happened to Jack Kent Cook.
It happened to Joe Robbie. It's happened to others.

Speaker 95 It may happen with the Raiders when Carol Davis passes. These are realities that these families have to deal with.
And it takes very careful planning and a lot of money to make it work.

Speaker 95 So there's a chance that the Bears will be sold.

Speaker 95 And this whole move to a new stadium, just part of making the team more attractive, because if we're going to have to cash out, let's maximize what we can get for this franchise.

Speaker 54 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Your team,

Speaker 75 they're not real, right?

Speaker 99 No, they're not.

Speaker 97 Okay, I agree with you. Okay.
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 All right, because we deal with crazy Vikings fans all the time.

Speaker 37 Kirk Cousins stands.

Speaker 18 They look at box scores.

Speaker 1 They're a nice team.

Speaker 14 They're not. He's a nice guy.
He's a nice guy.

Speaker 95 They'll lose in the divisional round. I'm on with Paul Allen, the voice of the Vikings, every Wednesday morning at 10 Eastern.
And I've told him this all year.

Speaker 95 This is a team that's going to go 11 and 6. Maybe 12 and 5, who knows? And they're going to win in the wild card round if they're lucky.

Speaker 95 And then they get the shit kicked out of them by the Eagles or the Cowboys or one of the elite teams in the NFC. Because Cousins is limited.
If everything's perfect, Cousins can get it done.

Speaker 95 When things start to fall apart, he's done. When the running game isn't there, he's done.
And the defense isn't nearly good enough to make up for an offense that isn't where it needs to be.

Speaker 95 And everybody thought, oh, Kevin O'Connell comes in. Now he's going to transfer Kirk Cousins.
He is who he is. He's been around for 10 years.

Speaker 95 So divisional round, they'll lose, and it'll continue as long as Kirk Cousins is their quarterback.

Speaker 14 Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 49 Yep.

Speaker 14 Mike, I want to thank you.

Speaker 14 We've been busting your balls a little bit, but sincerely, thank you for being the voice of reason or sometimes unreasonability on football night in America where you have to do your picks for the games, and you seem to be the guy that will not let everyone across the board take the same team.

Speaker 14 True. So thank you for that.
That being said,

Speaker 14 you have a very difficult assignment. this Sunday night because it's going to be the Bills and the Packers.
And we want the Bills to kick the shit out of of the Packers.

Speaker 14 But I'm pretty sure that everyone is going to pick the Bills. So I'm hereby humbly asking you to just bite the bullet for America and pick the Packers so it's not all Bills logos before the game.

Speaker 95 Because you think if it's all Bills logos, the Packers win.

Speaker 51 No, we don't think. We know.

Speaker 95 Yeah. Well, I took the Steelers.
to beat the Dolphins this past week. I was the only one.
Cowboys to beat the Eagles the week before, I was the only one. And you're right.

Speaker 95 I took the bullet and everybody else was made to look good. Fuck it.
I'm not doing it this week with the Packers.

Speaker 97 Somebody else would have to do it.

Speaker 87 Mike, come on. Why are you Tony Dungee?

Speaker 1 Mike, if the Packers win this game,

Speaker 96 I'm going to curse your barn.

Speaker 97 I will.

Speaker 96 I will curse your barn.

Speaker 87 Do you want to pick up? And you know,

Speaker 95 crazier things have happened. We've seen it.
It happens every week.

Speaker 49 Sounds like you want to pick him.

Speaker 97 Well, maybe I do.

Speaker 27 I don't know.

Speaker 34 Let's talk him into it, though.

Speaker 49 And then Sunday night.

Speaker 14 Like Aaron Rodgers, this is do or die time for him. It's always around this time of year that the media buries Aaron Rodgers and they say, oh, he's washed up.
He doesn't have the weapons at receiver.

Speaker 14 He's mad at his coach. He's dysfunctional.
He's a real asshole that nobody likes hanging out with. And then guess what happens? A criminal.
He's a criminal. He goes on a little tear.

Speaker 98 Yeah. He goes on a little tear.
Let me tell you something, though.

Speaker 14 Watch R-E-L-A-X, Mike.

Speaker 95 Here's what I think is legitimate as it relates to the Packers. I think it's better for them to struggle.
and then get into the postseason as like a six or a seven seed.

Speaker 95 They won the Super Bowl in 2010 as the sixth seed. I think there's a very real psychological lift in being the team that nobody expects anything from.
We got nothing to lose. Let's just go play.

Speaker 95 When they're the one seed, they seize up. They got, you know, they think too much.
Aaron Rodgers is too careful. We put all this work in to be the one seed.

Speaker 95 And oh my God, it's slipping away in a three-hour window at Lambeau Field. I really do think.

Speaker 95 They're more dangerous if they get in by the skin of their teeth than if they rebound and win the division.

Speaker 10 All right. Well, I I don't want them to be more dangerous.

Speaker 79 So just pick them. Just pick them on the ball.

Speaker 95 42 to 10. Bills win.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 74 I can't do it.

Speaker 95 Bills are going to kick the shit.

Speaker 97 I want a close game for NBC purposes.

Speaker 27 No.

Speaker 97 I think the Bills are going to kick the shit.

Speaker 10 I want them to kill them. I want the Bills to just, I want it to be just the best three hours of my life.

Speaker 14 I want Josh Allen to throw for 600 yards. How come no one set the all-time passing record in like 70 years? What's up with that?

Speaker 95 Isn't that amazing? Norm Van Brockland, 554 yards back in 1951 against the New York Yanks. And it was a blowout.
It wasn't like a game where they had to keep scoring points.

Speaker 95 And it was in an age where the game wasn't built for throwing and it's lasted this long. Joe Burrow got 525 a couple of years ago.
He had 481.

Speaker 95 There was a game 2020, Bucs Lions, a Saturday game, where they took Tom Brady out at halftime and he was on pace for like 700 yards. So I feel like it's going to happen one of these days.

Speaker 95 It really is ridiculous. It's been that long and it goes back to Norm Van Brockland in 1959.

Speaker 9 It's crazy.

Speaker 63 Okay, so Mike, the game's about to start.

Speaker 87 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 4 This has been a lot of fun catching up with you.

Speaker 66 We probably have waited too long.

Speaker 73 We're going to have to have you back on again this season.

Speaker 11 But we do our stardom, sit-em-sleeper

Speaker 9 every Friday.

Speaker 20 So we're going to do it right now.

Speaker 61 Whether you want to do it with us or not. We do actually do this.

Speaker 1 We want a real Italian on with us.

Speaker 44 So whether you want to do it with us or not,

Speaker 15 we're going to do it with us.

Speaker 95 Why are Italians the only people that can still be made fun of?

Speaker 74 Why is that? Because you're ridiculous.

Speaker 95 Why can we fall in this sweet spot?

Speaker 27 The most persecuted people can be made fun of. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, because you guys are funny people.

Speaker 44 And listen. You know why?

Speaker 14 I actually, because Italians can take it.

Speaker 58 Yeah.

Speaker 49 Mike, pussballs back.

Speaker 1 I'm an ally, Mike.

Speaker 103 Both my children are a quarter Italian, so I'm allowed to make all these jokes.

Speaker 14 And I'm 1% Sicilian, I'll have you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm allowed to do all this. We have our producer, Max.

Speaker 40 He's as Italian as it gets.

Speaker 35 He sweats grease.

Speaker 104 I had to add one Italian to the crew. Happy to be here.

Speaker 67 yeah see that's max so his last name ends in a vowel you're ready to go um okay hank you want to do your startum yeah what's up it's fucking excobon mario crystal ball hey what's up x my startup is matthew perry yeah weirdo he said he wants fucking keano reeves to die he's all up in the news he's everywhere this week

Speaker 67 my sit him is jamar chase yeah i see him he's at all he can't sit it's four to six

Speaker 60 tragically hip bad hit hipsters yeah what do you think about that mike

Speaker 95 Yeah, I have no comment.

Speaker 34 And my sleep of Stogies.

Speaker 87 Stogies.

Speaker 82 Stogies with the boys.

Speaker 67 Yeah, you got to go in the backyard, go in the bond, fucking rip a couple stoges.

Speaker 21 Yeah, in the bond.

Speaker 57 Real Italian shit.

Speaker 45 Real Italian shit.

Speaker 14 Hey, hey, what's up?

Speaker 57 This is Mikey Pauly.

Speaker 36 Hey, Mikey Paulie.

Speaker 44 That's my name, too.

Speaker 56 Yeah, Mikey Paulie.

Speaker 83 Oh, I'm Paulie, Mikey.

Speaker 83 I'm Mikey Paulie.

Speaker 58 I got to promote something.

Speaker 87 Hold on one sec.

Speaker 56 You can do it in your starter.

Speaker 87 You can do it in your starter.

Speaker 14 You're talking about your little side digital.

Speaker 27 You're saying, your little dad.

Speaker 51 Hey, I get a cut.

Speaker 27 Hey, hey, hey, hey,

Speaker 14 don't forget my cut.

Speaker 50 Hey.

Speaker 1 Hey, Yogi, you get a chance.

Speaker 44 I'll send the fellas out.

Speaker 14 Hey, what's up, Mikey Paul? Hey, what's up, Mikey Pauly? I'm starting trains this weekend. I'm going to go sit on a train for a while.

Speaker 27 I love a nice, smooth train ride.

Speaker 14 Nothing like it.

Speaker 33 Don't go to the store.

Speaker 14 Yeah, train stores. Bad stuff happens.

Speaker 83 Get greased.

Speaker 14 I'm sitting Antonio Gibson.

Speaker 14 I think he's kind of a bum. I think he's got the fumbolitis, and uh, they're gonna keep sitting him.

Speaker 48 It's gonna be V Rob.

Speaker 14 That's another guy, Brian Robinson, stay out of train scores, too, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, uh, I'm sleeping meditation podcasts, it's a real comfortable way to fall asleep at night.

Speaker 14 You listen to a little guy tell you a little story about a whale, reads Moby Dick to you, and sooner or later, you are the one that's sleeping.

Speaker 1 I like it, I like it. All right, what's up, guys?

Speaker 105 It's Pauli Mikey.

Speaker 57 Hey, Paul, Mike.

Speaker 105 Paulie Mikey, I'm starting Kenneth Walker. He's my guy.
Seahawks, big 10, runs the football, knows Knows how to get yards.

Speaker 103 Mike, Kenneth Walker, stot him.

Speaker 75 Stot him. Stot him.

Speaker 35 My sit him, I'm sitting real doctors.

Speaker 105 Oh, my God. The Bucs.

Speaker 87 Oh, my God.

Speaker 65 They just ran into each other. They just ran into each other.

Speaker 51 One guy is going one ball and one guy is going the other.

Speaker 60 And then you're going to get the Ravens like, hey, nevermore.

Speaker 1 So my Siddham is doctors.

Speaker 100 Real doctors suck.

Speaker 105 Real doctors are actually 10x doctors.

Speaker 54 Quacks.

Speaker 105 Biologists, you know, know, that's the real life.

Speaker 1 And then my sleeper is anyone's bond that doesn't that picks the bills on Sunday night.

Speaker 73 Would be a real shame.

Speaker 65 Real shame. Real shame if that bond went up and smoked.

Speaker 14 You got an insurance policy on that thing?

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 56 Okay, and now, Billy, Billy, go ahead.

Speaker 87 Hey, yo, uh.

Speaker 98 I'm not far off his pay.

Speaker 87 Hey,

Speaker 87 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Can y'all let me know what he's doing?

Speaker 14 Listen.

Speaker 74 Hey, it's

Speaker 14 Chenzo Allegro. And my stardom.

Speaker 91 My stardom is, you know, you ever hear about this guy, Sam Ellinger?

Speaker 101 Yeah.

Speaker 101 He's a guy.

Speaker 83 He's a top run.

Speaker 82 He's a guy.

Speaker 108 You hear around, you know, you're around and you hear some things.

Speaker 91 Yeah, my sit him.

Speaker 108 You know Franklin Delano Roosevelt?

Speaker 61 Yeah.

Speaker 108 You know that he couldn't stand?

Speaker 14 You sit in FDR. I think he took care of that one for you.

Speaker 56 Yeah, you know.

Speaker 33 Allegedly.

Speaker 101 Turns out, couldn't stand.

Speaker 108 Heard it from a guy.

Speaker 14 I was around, heard it from a guy.

Speaker 108 And then my sleeper,

Speaker 57 Katie Perry's eye.

Speaker 87 Oh.

Speaker 14 Not good. No.

Speaker 89 Sleepy eye. Yeah.

Speaker 34 Very winky. Very sleepy.

Speaker 108 No. A little dodgy.
You see something like that?

Speaker 74 A little sleepy.

Speaker 101 Just got something to check out.

Speaker 74 Just check it out.

Speaker 67 Not too hard, though.

Speaker 44 Just let it sleep.

Speaker 92 All right, Mike. Go ahead.

Speaker 98 What you're saying? I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.

Speaker 87 Mike, you're a collaborative. No, it's just not.

Speaker 103 It's not. Calculated.
It is not.

Speaker 15 Do this every Friday.

Speaker 47 Yell at me, nobody gives it. No, the moment.

Speaker 95 The moment I start doing it, that's what you're going to do.

Speaker 84 I have lived through this.

Speaker 87 For five fucking years.

Speaker 83 Have you ever listened to the show? We do this. We don't listen to our Friday show.
We do this every Friday.

Speaker 87 I listen to your Friday.

Speaker 17 We do this my show. Yeah, we do this every Friday.

Speaker 1 All right, so what's your thing you got to plug?

Speaker 63 You start up.

Speaker 87 Okay,

Speaker 98 I'm not plugging anything. Oh.

Speaker 95 Start buying Playmakers.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 95 Sit Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 91 He's on the buy this pleasure.

Speaker 32 Okay, nice. This is my colleague.

Speaker 95 He's on the cover. Along with Bill Belichick.
Start Bill Belichick in the Coaches Fantasy League this week. Okay.
Get Playmakers. Special promotion on Tuesday.
A special promotion.

Speaker 95 If you buy buy it on Tuesday. You got to buy it on Tuesday.
Special promotion, Tuesday, the 21st anniversary of PFT. Not many people know about it, but the AWLs are clued in.
Yes.

Speaker 95 A special promotion if you buy it on Tuesday. Show up Tuesday and buy it.

Speaker 1 And if you don't buy it, we'll sleep you.

Speaker 36 We will literally murder you.

Speaker 103 That's a fact. That's a guarantee.

Speaker 1 Right, Mike, you, as our lawyer, you say that we can murder people, right?

Speaker 95 Sure, that's fine.

Speaker 70 Okay, perfect.

Speaker 14 It's a long Italian tradition to pay people off on election day. I'm glad that you're keeping that up.

Speaker 32 Like it, Mike.

Speaker 39 Mike, thank you.

Speaker 16 We really do do that every Friday.

Speaker 51 We talked about it.

Speaker 95 Okay, I didn't know. I just, but there's no way.
There's no way. You saw my text.
I had a high-level meeting in New York City late August.

Speaker 95 And it crossed my mind on the way to the meeting that this is some fucking thing Big Cat set up.

Speaker 95 So there'll be a question about my fantasy team and they're going to swoop in out of nowhere and say nobody gives a shit.

Speaker 1 Well, to be honest with you, we were, you know, I was thinking about different things to do.

Speaker 50 and then I was like, isn't the best way to get Florio this year is just to have him constantly thinking we're about to get him for all of August and then not get him?

Speaker 97 It worked. It worked.

Speaker 56 It worked.

Speaker 51 It was beautiful. It was beautiful.

Speaker 51 All right.

Speaker 1 Well, Mike, thank you as always. Everyone go by Playmakers.
Tune into Mike.

Speaker 52 He's been doing it for 21 years. We love you.

Speaker 14 Congratulations, Mike.

Speaker 1 Sincerely,

Speaker 68 as much shit as we give you, we do love you.

Speaker 1 And always, always love that you have our back.

Speaker 16 We have your back.

Speaker 65 It's family, you know?

Speaker 1 It's our thing.

Speaker 100 Hey, Gabagoo.

Speaker 25 There it is.

Speaker 65 All right. Thanks, Mike.
Thanks, Mike.

Speaker 109 Man, I'll tell you what. When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 109 That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed.
Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate. It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 109 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this.
Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 109 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 3 Okay, weekend preview time.

Speaker 1 Week eight.

Speaker 70 It's not halfway.

Speaker 88 We're almost halfway, but we're not halfway.

Speaker 3 It is kind of crazy that we're already in week eight.

Speaker 8 We're already done with October after this week.

Speaker 71 We're not going to do the thing where we get scared about the season ending, but it's starting to trickle in my head.

Speaker 49 That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 14 It's not 16 games anymore, though. I know, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 56 We're not halfway.

Speaker 14 We get the full note.

Speaker 20 We have 18 weeks, so next week is halfway.

Speaker 14 And even if it was 16 games, we're not there yet because, guess what? It's not Monday yet. I think we still have this week of games.

Speaker 31 The two things that always get me to be like, whoa, football's not going to last forever, is when we change the clocks, which is this weekend, and when October ends.

Speaker 68 Because then it feels like October.

Speaker 67 I know that it makes no sense because we obviously play football all throughout January and February, but in my head, September, October, November, December, those are the four quarters of the season.

Speaker 14 Yeah, it is the start of scorebug update season. So we're going to see the jack-o'-lanterns on the scoreboards.
We're going to see the leaves falling.

Speaker 31 Monday night's the best color matchup ever for Halloween.

Speaker 14 Well, I wish it had been the Commanders in the black and the Bears in the orange. Oh, that would have been the spookiest matchup of all time.

Speaker 70 I don't want to watch that game again.

Speaker 14 It was scary. Yeah.

Speaker 14 It was a very frightening game, not for children. Yeah.

Speaker 64 But

Speaker 14 then next week, we're going to start cornucopia season with the big the the horn that's got the the squash coming out of it

Speaker 71 the apples the leaves this is football season it's football season it is football season we're in week eight um jake give us our standings and then we're going to talk about every game some good games this week some also some bad games go ahead we have a new leader It's you.

Speaker 70 Oh, three and one.

Speaker 61 Interesting how Pink Cap goes 0-4.

Speaker 10 I mean, I ask him, I do the same thing every week.

Speaker 14 Very pumped up about this.

Speaker 19 Every week.

Speaker 76 So we have had an 0-4 participant every week, which is kind of crazy. Hank takes the honor this week.
So Big Cat at 14 and 14.

Speaker 21 Nice.

Speaker 56 Strong leader.

Speaker 81 It's awesome.

Speaker 68 This is like the U.S. Open when the leader's plus two.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 34 No, the course has been tough this year.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 92 Tough course.

Speaker 15 Shout out to the course.

Speaker 58 It's been here. Yeah, really good.

Speaker 76 Big Cat at 14 and 14. Hank one behind at 13 and 15.
Max and Billy at 11 and 17. Me and PFT at 10 and 18.
So the whole group, four-game separation, still anyone's game.

Speaker 64 Still anyone's game. It truly is.

Speaker 56 It truly is.

Speaker 14 Listen, we're not even halfway done through the season right now, so it's pointless to say who's in first place, season last.

Speaker 92 Should we talk real quick?

Speaker 30 We're going to go through all the games, but we should at least address before we go through these games, the Russell Wilson

Speaker 31 going to England and doing calisthenics on the plane.

Speaker 19 Just in all time, every time I think Russell Wilson will have a revelation being like, hey, maybe I'm doing too much, He's like, no, I'm going to do even more.

Speaker 14 No, well, that's the thing. Like, he thinks that the way out of this hole that he's created for himself is to do everything that he has doing except harder.
Yeah.

Speaker 14 So he's just leaning more and more into the Russell Wilson of the idea of what he thinks that a QB1 should be doing to lead their team. Yes.

Speaker 14 And I don't think, like, he doesn't have buy-in from his teammates because you can do this kind of shit if you're winning and it's kind of like quirky. It's like, oh, that's Russell Wilson.

Speaker 14 He's a weirdo, but it's working. You can't argue with the results.

Speaker 14 But when you start to lose while you're doing all this weird shit, I remember RG3 in his rookie year, he started asking all the veterans, like, what's your why?

Speaker 48 Know your why.

Speaker 14 Why do you play football? And they started to win. Everybody was like, this rookie is precocious, but he's getting the job done.

Speaker 14 Then once things start to fall apart, it's like, I fucking hate this guy.

Speaker 60 Yeah, he's annoying as shit.

Speaker 16 And the why is we're getting paid.

Speaker 15 Yeah, we want money.

Speaker 59 Everyone wants the money.

Speaker 3 And Russell Wilson has his money, so he probably annoys the fuck out of everyone even more knowing that they're still trying to get their money.

Speaker 69 He has his money.

Speaker 3 The report, if you missed it, was that Russell Wilson on an eight-hour flight from Denver to London

Speaker 12 did

Speaker 2 high knees and stretching for four hours while the rest of the team slept.

Speaker 20 So initially, I was like, well, that's weird because if everyone was sleeping, who told the reporters?

Speaker 21 Then I saw that Russell Wilson was the one who obviously told the reporters.

Speaker 18 And he actually, the quote was actually worse because what he said to the reporters was, for the first two hours, I watched films, film.

Speaker 31 Then when everyone slept, so he's basically throwing his whole team under the bus, I did high knees and kept stretching.

Speaker 18 Then the last two hours,

Speaker 59 he started to say that he took a nap, and then he's like, well, I slept for an hour, and then I watched more film.

Speaker 2 So basically, in an eight-hour flight, he's only copping to one hour of sleep, and the rest of it, he was working his ass off and stretching and doing everything to make sure that he's ready.

Speaker 22 And again, I like the actual act of keeping loose and making sure his hamstrings are ready for the game, that's fine.

Speaker 14 it's telling everyone that that's what you did that is so ridiculous i think four hours of high knees is just simply too many hours that is i think i think maybe four minutes of high knees is the most that anyone should ever do after that what are you're just showing off yeah he's probably he's doing the thing where he was doing the like this is the first football pass he was like these are the highest knees of all time that i'm able to do because i'm on an airplane and it's i'm really getting it if i was that pilot i would have and i saw somebody doing high knees for four hours i no disrespect, I would have caught the German wings flu.

Speaker 14 Yes. And I would have been like, okay, we're going down.

Speaker 73 Yeah, we're going down right now.

Speaker 59 His body must be like just begging him for a break, too.

Speaker 3 It's like the inverse of my body, where every now and then my body will tell me, like, hey, maybe today you should like try to lift a weight or get your heart rate up for a second.

Speaker 20 Just let's feel good for a second.

Speaker 3 His body's like, hey, Russ, maybe let's just sit on the couch and eat a potato chip once instead of every fucking waking hour making me do something that I don't want to do.

Speaker 1 That's what his body's screaming for help.

Speaker 14 I can almost guarantee you that Russ Wilson in the course of the next two years will enter in with a partnership with a mattress company that eliminates the big weakness in sleep.

Speaker 14 There's an inefficiency in sleeping, big cat. You can't work out while you're asleep.
He'll figure out some way to make sleeping a workout. Yes.
And then he'll be like, it's me, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 14 Even when I'm sleeping, I'm still grinding. Yes.
Get your hands on the Russ mattress.

Speaker 78 I could absolutely

Speaker 70 have happening.

Speaker 89 He is quite...

Speaker 100 Quite something.

Speaker 54 Okay, so let's do our picks.

Speaker 20 We'll talk about every game, but we had to address that.

Speaker 88 We'll start with our favorites.

Speaker 67 What about the Robert Quinn trade?

Speaker 15 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 19 Well, I had it under the Bears Cowboys.

Speaker 9 If we discuss that game,

Speaker 67 I will discuss that game. Okay, so

Speaker 67 you're taking the Cowboys?

Speaker 56 Taking the Bears.

Speaker 53 Well, no, you're doing favorites first.

Speaker 21 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Favorites first.

Speaker 73 But the Robert Quinn trade,

Speaker 59 I still don't think people under, and I put myself in this camp, I don't understand how the cap works.

Speaker 19 I don't understand trade value in the NFL because everyone always, like, whenever someone gets traded, they're like, that's all you got.

Speaker 18 The Bears are not

Speaker 21 a contender right now.

Speaker 59 They have to rebuild.

Speaker 26 They have to get as many picks as possible.

Speaker 14 They're beating up on shitty teams, but that doesn't mean that they're a good team.

Speaker 12 Don't delude ourselves.

Speaker 20 Robert Quinn is 32 years old, had an incredible year last year, has been okay this year. The last couple weeks has been better.

Speaker 3 There's no reason if you are Ryan Poles,

Speaker 19 if this is a tear it down and build it back up, a 32-year-old defensive lineman is not part of the future.

Speaker 3 Get as many picks as you can.

Speaker 36 Do it right now.

Speaker 71 I think it's actually great for the Eagles as well because now they have depth at the pass rusher position, which would be the one thing you could say, like, oh, their defense.

Speaker 37 is great against the run, all these things.

Speaker 23 They probably need to get the quarterback more.

Speaker 73 I love the trade.

Speaker 69 And everyone will just shit on like, all you got is a fourth.

Speaker 1 I actually think that's pretty good value.

Speaker 22 It's like the Khalil Mack trade.

Speaker 20 Like, when guys get older, you don't get a lot for them.

Speaker 17 You just don't, because draft picks are very, very hard.

Speaker 14 How many years did he have again?

Speaker 3 I don't know when he can get cut. I know they save some money on the cap, future cap,

Speaker 31 but it's a smart trade because you need as many picks as you can.

Speaker 19 And I posed a question to Twitter yesterday because there was one person who was like, the Bears should have traded Roquan for two firsts.

Speaker 43 And I was like, first of all, Roquan, I don't think gets one first because he's an off-ball linebacker, which is not a premier position.

Speaker 20 But the amount of guys in the NFL that would get two firsts that are non-quarterbacks, the list is probably 10 to 15.

Speaker 80 Aaron Donald.

Speaker 13 I don't even know because he almost retires every year.

Speaker 59 That's true. Yeah, like it's.

Speaker 14 Aaron Donald three years ago.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 96 It's pretty much guys who are on their first contract.

Speaker 17 Like, it's Micah Parsons.

Speaker 14 Maybe some coaches. Maybe Sean McVay.

Speaker 5 Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 14 Sean, he also almost retires, too.

Speaker 20 TJY people were throwing out Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase.

Speaker 22 Those are good answers.

Speaker 14 Sam Bradford.

Speaker 9 It's a very small list of

Speaker 56 John QB.

Speaker 14 I know, but I think Sam Bradford, didn't he get traded for like multiple first-round picks over the course of his career? He did.

Speaker 3 But the list, like, and then people are like, well, what about Jamal Adams?

Speaker 50 Jamal Adams was an atrocious trade at the time.

Speaker 45 Joe Douglas fleeced the Seahawks, and we all thought that at the time.

Speaker 23 So,

Speaker 86 yeah, I'm cool with the trade.

Speaker 20 I wish the timing was different.

Speaker 80 That's all I'll say.

Speaker 3 Because you saw Roquan Smith kind of get teary-eyed in the press conference.

Speaker 31 The Bears just have their biggest win in a long time, and then you trade Robert Quinn.

Speaker 66 That has to hurt the locker room a little to be like, yeah,

Speaker 22 we're not actually competing for anything this year.

Speaker 14 You're probably selling at the highest point, though. Yeah.
It's like, when are you going to get another prime?

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 65 But

Speaker 59 that was my only critique of it.

Speaker 73 All right, so let's do the picks.

Speaker 49 Favorite?

Speaker 67 Green Bay Packers. I mean, Buffalo Bill is playing the Green Bay Packers.
They're minus 10 and a half.

Speaker 67 I'm confused with the favorites and underdog thing here. Yeah.

Speaker 14 It does feel like a shit pumping waiting to happen.

Speaker 31 I'm so excited. It feels like

Speaker 67 I'm going shock for my favorite and shock for my underdog. Just the biggest, biggest of both worlds.

Speaker 14 It feels like everything is about to implode for the Green Bay Packers. Like, this feels like the second before it all comes crumbling.

Speaker 67 Aaron Rodgers is saying his teammates aren't trying, or there's 20% of plays where they're just lapsing judgment or lapsing, like paying attention. So that can't help.

Speaker 59 This game has a personal spot

Speaker 107 in my heart because this is actually how I became an honorary member of Bills Mafia.

Speaker 72 2014,

Speaker 30 the Bears were terrible.

Speaker 31 I think it was the second year of Tressman.

Speaker 45 The Packers were very good.

Speaker 59 They went to Buffalo.

Speaker 18 It was Kyle Orton.

Speaker 31 The Bills beat the Packers in week 15, essentially stopped them from getting the one seed, so then they had to go play that NFC championship game in Seattle.

Speaker 19 And I went back and I looked at my tweets.

Speaker 3 That was the day that I was like, is being a Bills fan always this fun?

Speaker 22 They were a shitty team then.

Speaker 19 And I was tweeting Bill's mafia.

Speaker 67 And that was a perpetually shitty era for them.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 3 And I remember I went and looked at my tweets, and I was like, I'm part of Bills Mafia today because this is going to be the best moment of the Bears 2014 season is the Packers losing the one seed to a bad Buffalo team.

Speaker 19 And so I love this game. I love this game.

Speaker 3 I love what the Bills did for me that year, and I'll forever love the Bills for that.

Speaker 71 And also, this is the first time that Aaron Rodgers in 234 regular season and postseason postseason starts is a double-digit underdog.

Speaker 21 That's crazy.

Speaker 112 Longest streak ever for a quarterback to start their career as an under, to never be a two-digit, double-digit underdog.

Speaker 21 That is crazy.

Speaker 67 So you're taking the bills.

Speaker 59 I will be taking the bills.

Speaker 43 They're not my pick, but I will be taking the bills.

Speaker 14 It feels like

Speaker 14 this is the moment where it does.

Speaker 14 Everything's adding up to it. Like even LaFleur is saying, like, yeah, I deserve all this criticism.
I've sucked myself. So he's even admitting that there's some problems going into it.

Speaker 14 They don't really have that many weapons on offense. They should run the ball a lot more than they do, but they don't.

Speaker 59 Aaron Jones should be featured more.

Speaker 14 They're just not going to. You should give the ball to A.J.
Dillon. You should give the ball to Aaron Jones.
Is Dylan hurt?

Speaker 21 I don't think so.

Speaker 14 So they should just run the fucking ball more because they don't have the weapons on the, even if, even if they wanted to pass the ball more, I don't think Aaron Rodgers wants to throw the ball to those bums on the offense.

Speaker 14 I think he thinks they're bums.

Speaker 46 Yeah.

Speaker 14 And also, the Bills riding high off the momentum of releasing the new pictures of their stadium, which looks looks awesome there's no dome on it josh allen is an outdoor cat look very cool i'm sorry kurt warner he's going to be playing outdoors for the rest of his career i love it the giant buffalo outside the stadium were awesome yep they've got three like three giant fucking brass buffalo with balls hanging off their legs just right they need to be bigger though i want like i want the the buffalo outside the stadium to be bigger than the actual stadium itself i agree it should be like something that nasa can see from space yes they're like look at that you see the Great Wall of China?

Speaker 43 How about the Buffalo in Buffalo?

Speaker 14 Yeah, I want it to turn into like a tourist attraction. People go up to Buffalo to see the giant fucking buffalo.
Yep.

Speaker 14 Probably Bill's mafia climbs it after big victories. There'll definitely be somebody that tries to jump off that buffalo into a table.

Speaker 59 They're going to have to rope it off. Yeah.

Speaker 80 They're going to have to put a big, big gate around it.

Speaker 14 Or just a lifeguard. Have Pinto Ron on a lifeguard stand.
Sitting on the buffalo. Sitting on the buffalo, and he just squirts ketchup at you if you try to climb up it.

Speaker 81 Yes.

Speaker 71 Josh Allen also 10-3 against the spread in primetime.

Speaker 73 Pretty good.

Speaker 71 I'm going to love this game. This game is going to be erotic for me.

Speaker 23 I want them to absolutely punish the Packers.

Speaker 11 Okay, that's your favorite.

Speaker 22 Max, your favorite?

Speaker 104 Falcons minus four and a half.

Speaker 56 Okay.

Speaker 104 The Panthers. I think the Panthers stink.
I think the Falcons are good.

Speaker 21 And I think that line is low, which scares me.

Speaker 70 But this is the Falcons.

Speaker 14 It's the first time that the Falcons are favorites this year, I believe.

Speaker 67 Yes.

Speaker 72 I will, when we get to our underdogs, I'm against you on this.

Speaker 35 I'm now buying what I was reading up about the Panthers.

Speaker 9 I guess I can just talk about it right now.

Speaker 42 The way of the Panther?

Speaker 59 I didn't realize that Steve Wilkes is from Charlotte. That's a big miss on my part.

Speaker 14 I didn't know that either.

Speaker 72 Yeah, interim head coach from Charlotte.

Speaker 3 Guys afterwards, David Tepper gave him a game ball after the win against the Bucs.

Speaker 3 They're all talking, like the locker room is talking about how he got screwed in Arizona and they want him to have the job and they're playing for him and they're like, he means a lot to this franchise, to the city.

Speaker 2 It's also crazy to say, this is a nuts thing, but just follow me here.

Speaker 111 David Tepper was on the Carolina staff when they won the NFC South at 7-8-1 that year in 2014.

Speaker 45 Remember, Ron Rivera talked about it in his press conference after he got fired, which was very bizarre.

Speaker 59 If the Panthers beat the Falcons and the Raiders beat the Saints,

Speaker 107 we'll already know if the Bucs won or not, say they lost, the Panthers would be in first place, which is insane.

Speaker 14 That is crazy.

Speaker 71 That's insane to think about that they could be in first place in the NFC South on Sunday night.

Speaker 14 That is, it's not specific.

Speaker 49 That's stupid.

Speaker 79 But that's stupid.

Speaker 1 That means, though, the only reason I'm saying that is because when I saw these quotes being like, we're playing for them, we're dying for him.

Speaker 20 We want him to get the job. I was like, what do they care?

Speaker 73 They're out of it. And then I was like, wait, are they out of it? And they are out of it, but they're also technically not.

Speaker 14 They're not mathematically out of it, right?

Speaker 58 But they're out of it, out of it.

Speaker 56 But you can delude yourself.

Speaker 68 Right, you can delude yourself in being like, we're not out of it because mathematically we could be in first place on Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 62 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Don't forget, though, that the Falcons had an extra half of practice to get ready for this Panthers game in the second half of their game against the Bengals last week, where they just decided we're not going to pass the ball.

Speaker 14 We're going to just implement, we're going to do our first half script against the Packers or against the Panthers in the second half of our game against the Bengals, where they threw 13 total passes after losing by 18 points or while losing by 18 points.

Speaker 14 The Arthur Smith Coach of the Year Buzz is picking up steam. It is.
It is.

Speaker 17 It's going to be tough to beat Brian Dable.

Speaker 14 It's going to be very tough to beat Brian Dable.

Speaker 48 However,

Speaker 14 you never know.

Speaker 70 Yeah, I'm down to get it going. Yeah.

Speaker 14 I think he should be in the discussion. Absolutely.

Speaker 31 He's in the discussion right now.

Speaker 17 Do they have finalists for it?

Speaker 14 Do they get a bunch of coaches together or do they just pick...

Speaker 58 Do they just say... We only have a vote.

Speaker 73 So let's just give our vote to Arthur Smith right now.

Speaker 14 I think we should split it. Okay.
Arthur Smith and Dable.

Speaker 21 Okay.

Speaker 61 Perfect. Okay.

Speaker 14 So in the discussion.

Speaker 8 So we're going to, one way we're going to win this.

Speaker 49 So yeah.

Speaker 22 The Panthers are going to be my underdog.

Speaker 111 Yeah, I hate it.

Speaker 70 It's fine. I'm a weird thing.
It's fine. I hate it.

Speaker 8 The Charlotte part, I'm so mad at myself because I consider myself a little bit of a guru on interim coaches come in, and I just somehow missed that part.

Speaker 14 Well, it's because we were so excited about the possibility of getting Ben Mackin as the head coach that we completely overlooked Steve Wilkes.

Speaker 19 I know.

Speaker 110 And now these guys are believing and getting a game ball from the owner.

Speaker 14 Are they pounding the drum? Are they bringing back the keep pounding?

Speaker 31 I don't know. I'm just, I'm starting to, I'm starting to believe in this Panthers team to not be terrible.

Speaker 61 I want to clarify.

Speaker 72 I do not think they're good. I do not think they're going to win, go to the playoffs.

Speaker 29 I do not think they're going to win more than like six or seven, six games, maybe four more games.

Speaker 96 But not being

Speaker 20 the worst team and being like just a little bit better than the worst team is a big difference.

Speaker 58 I like PJ Walker.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 14 He's fun. He is fun.
PJ Walker Walker and Heineke leading the XFL resurgence. Yes.
All right.

Speaker 84 Your favorite, PFT.

Speaker 14 My favorite favorite going into this weekend,

Speaker 14 I want to be a basic bitch,

Speaker 14 but I'm not going to. I'm going to take the Pats.
Okay. I'm taking the Patriots.
So Belichick is something like 34-15 against the spread after losing as a favorite.

Speaker 31 He's also 35-11 straight up against the Jets in his career.

Speaker 14 Yeah, and I don't think he's lost against the Jets since 2018.

Speaker 33 15. 15.

Speaker 3 I think it's six years.

Speaker 34 It's 12 straight.

Speaker 56 That's a lot of times.

Speaker 5 I can never do years.

Speaker 14 All the hot take shows out there are going to be talking incessantly about Mac Jones, Bailey Zappie, the wire. Which one? Which one are we going to do?

Speaker 87 No, it's talking about the wire.

Speaker 70 I've seen a lot of people talking about it.

Speaker 14 What do you mean, the wire, Hank?

Speaker 69 The wire that Mac Jones is.

Speaker 67 The ESPN's Monday Night Football cam, the wire for it, the sky cam, Mac Jones' ball hit it technically by NFL rules.

Speaker 67 If a ball hits an unconstructed, like non-part of the game, then the play is called dead. The ball was clearly going out of bounds.
He was throwing it away.

Speaker 67 It hit the wire, came back inbounds, and was intercepted. Okay.
Then Bailey Zappi got put in.

Speaker 14 So not to go all Alex Jones on you, but

Speaker 14 it just so happened that Barack Obama was on the Manning cast at the exact time that his beloved Bears got a drone interference penalty against the Patriots. I'm just looking at the documents.

Speaker 14 It's adding up a little bit. But, Hank, what I'm saying is, like, you'll hear, you probably want me to talk about Mac Jones and Bailey Zappi.
That's what you see on TV.

Speaker 14 You see all the lame talk shows are just trying to get clicks and talk about a quarterback controversy.

Speaker 14 I want to talk about the Patriots' defense because the Patriots' defense, I think, is going to befuddle

Speaker 14 Wilson. Zach Wilson is going to be befuddled this weekend.

Speaker 14 He's going to be so confused. Belichick knows how to fuck with befuddled quarterbacks.
And Zach Wilson, I I think, is

Speaker 88 one of the more befuddlable quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 67 They made Dartled C ghosts.

Speaker 99 Yeah, and

Speaker 31 obviously, Brees Hall injury hurts.

Speaker 43 Their offensive tackle also out for the year.

Speaker 31 Kind of sucks for the Jets. They've had some injury bug.

Speaker 71 They traded for James Robinson. How are we feeling about James Robinson?

Speaker 14 Good. I mean, the Jets running.

Speaker 14 That's a perfect answer.

Speaker 49 Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. The Jets are fine.

Speaker 106 I did read it.

Speaker 34 I mean, Michael Carter is good.

Speaker 36 Yeah, Michael Carter is good.

Speaker 3 James Robinson is okay.

Speaker 14 He's good.

Speaker 91 But And Michael Carter, I think, is going to get more reps. And he's also, I think, been overshadowed by Brees Hall.
Okay. So him getting more reps, I think we're going to see him explode.

Speaker 14 I think your offensive line injuries are low-key more important than the Brees Hall injuries.

Speaker 33 Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 67 I do really want to go.

Speaker 61 Okay, then go.

Speaker 84 I actually got tickets already.

Speaker 61 We got to work.

Speaker 14 No, you and Billy should go.

Speaker 91 Yeah, no, I actually have the tickets already. We should go.

Speaker 14 Hank, you should go.

Speaker 67 I would.

Speaker 91 Hank, we're going.

Speaker 56 I got to work. No, no, no.

Speaker 60 I'll wake you up on Sunday. We'll go.

Speaker 19 He's got to work.

Speaker 75 Are you scared that you're going to lose?

Speaker 32 You're wearing green right now.

Speaker 27 Uh-oh.

Speaker 67 I am wearing green right now. He's got you on that one.
I'm team black, though.

Speaker 67 I am wearing green right now. Fucking Amen.

Speaker 57 If you really like your pats, you should go.

Speaker 67 I do, dude, Billy, I really like the pats. I just like, I'm a workhorse.
I don't know what you want me to say. I just gotta

Speaker 67 game one.

Speaker 34 We work. Workhorse.

Speaker 21 We work. He's a workhorse.
Yeah.

Speaker 45 Okay.

Speaker 66 All right, so you have the Patriots.

Speaker 56 Yeah, I gotta go. I don't care.

Speaker 14 Yeah, I got the Patriots minus two and a half.

Speaker 78 Okay. Billy should go.

Speaker 59 I am going to.

Speaker 67 Jake, you should go in my stead.

Speaker 40 It's a big game.

Speaker 1 Billy, it's a big game.

Speaker 21 You got to, this is like

Speaker 50 all the good vibes on the Jets season kind of is a make or or break in the next three weeks.

Speaker 3 I know.

Speaker 67 I have no problem with Billy. I've went to like three or four past Jets games and they are all disappointing when we first moved here.
Like I have no interest in going to the Metal Land.

Speaker 14 Because you beat him so bad?

Speaker 67 If it was a night game.

Speaker 14 This might be a little more exciting.

Speaker 67 Monday night game.

Speaker 14 I think Hank's scared.

Speaker 56 You're scared.

Speaker 87 He's a workhorse.

Speaker 14 I'm getting scared by him.

Speaker 67 I am a workhorse and

Speaker 67 corporate life never sleeps, but I love watching all the other games. Like, I don't like being at one game on Sunday, knowing there's other games going on and then having to work after it.

Speaker 67 If it was a normal Sunday where we could just go to the game, get shit-facing, go, and then go home and go to sleep, different story. Yeah.

Speaker 67 But, like, going to the game, missing all the other games, and then having to come to work for the rest of the night. Brutal.

Speaker 14 But you're not scared. Not scared.

Speaker 43 Not scared.

Speaker 42 Okay.

Speaker 31 My favorites, I'm going to take the 49ers minus one and a half.

Speaker 112 I assume that was who you're going to be if you were basic.

Speaker 44 Yeah, no, I agree with you.

Speaker 14 But also, at some point, I feel like every time this happens, it's like if you really enjoy a band and then they get mainstream and everybody, like they're on the radio, everyone's talking about it.

Speaker 14 It's like we've known for a while that Shanahan owns McVay. Yeah.
And now everyone's talking about it. It's like, if you like Shanahan so much, name three of his old running backs.

Speaker 43 But it's, it's, I don't, I just can't, like, he's eight and four against McVay overall, straight up.

Speaker 31 And then, so one of the losses was the NFC championship game that the Niners, if they don't drop the easiest interception ever, win that game, they still covered.

Speaker 68 And then the other three losses, C.J.

Speaker 22 Bethard, Nick Mullen, and Brian Hoyer, 2017 and 18, when the Niners were horrendous and the Rams were a Super Bowl.

Speaker 34 They went to the Super Bowl in 18.

Speaker 8 So it's not only that he really owns it.

Speaker 112 And I just,

Speaker 10 I'm going to go back to the well.

Speaker 5 I'm just going to keep doing it.

Speaker 31 I keep betting the Niners.

Speaker 50 I bet them the last few times they played the Rams.

Speaker 72 I'm going to keep doing it until something changes or something looks different for Sean McVay and the Rams against the Niners.

Speaker 14 I'm going to take the Niners too. I think that's a good bet because they also,

Speaker 14 the Rams are missing some offensive linemen. Yep.

Speaker 22 Bose is coming back.

Speaker 14 Bose is coming back. I think Bose is going to feast.

Speaker 80 Bose is coming back.

Speaker 3 And what we saw in the NFC Championship game,

Speaker 58 this is a home game for the Niners. Yeah.

Speaker 35 There's like, it's going to be like 60, 70% Niners fans.

Speaker 14 Yeah. I also like McCaffrey.
Like, if he has two days to learn the playbook, imagine what he's going to know on nine days. A couple special packages?

Speaker 49 Hell yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 70 Okay.

Speaker 19 That's my favorite.

Speaker 80 Billy, your favorite.

Speaker 91 This is a big weekend for me. Chad Kelly's getting his first professional football start.
Sam Ellinger is also getting his first professional football start.

Speaker 91 So all my picks are going to reflect all my takes.

Speaker 49 You're playing against the banks.

Speaker 48 There's a lot.

Speaker 58 Billy, you got a lot.

Speaker 14 Your reputation's on the line this week. I know.
I know.

Speaker 91 So we're going Colts minus three over the Commanders. So

Speaker 14 you're making it worse now. You're even like doubling down on your.

Speaker 91 We're either going to be crashing and burning or celebrating.

Speaker 65 I like that.

Speaker 1 Just go all, yeah, put all your chips in the middle

Speaker 18 and just hope it works out.

Speaker 91 On Sunday night, I might be in shambles.

Speaker 91 So I'm very prepared for that. Sam Ellinger, I think he's a mobile quarterback, enough to light up an offense.
We see these mobile quarterbacks getting first downs, extending drives.

Speaker 91 I think the Colts are going to have the fire in their belly. And also, as we heard,

Speaker 91 the commanders had a party on Monday night.

Speaker 82 A Halloween party. Halloween party.

Speaker 91 So I don't think that's good in a game.

Speaker 49 It's a good six-day hangover.

Speaker 91 Yeah, I mean, you know, alcohol has effects for like two weeks after you drink it.

Speaker 88 That's true true for certain football coaches.

Speaker 14 Okay, I know I can tell like I can still hear it in your voice

Speaker 56 from Saturday.

Speaker 15 Yeah, how was your Saturday?

Speaker 14 It was great. Yeah, he got Chris Long drunk.
Oh, yeah, at the Yankee game. No, actually Chris Long got him drunk.

Speaker 14 That was a fib that Billy told.

Speaker 91 No, Chris Long claims that because I went home early, it means that no, he got you drunk.

Speaker 14 He paid for your drinks.

Speaker 14 And then you left because you were so drunk.

Speaker 91 No, because I had to wake up and do part of my take.

Speaker 14 So Chris Long got you drunk, though.

Speaker 20 Yeah. For the the wake up and do part of my take right away.

Speaker 56 At 11. We get to watch all the football.

Speaker 61 All the football. So you're agreeing with Hank?

Speaker 21 What time?

Speaker 1 He can't go to the game because you got to watch all the football.

Speaker 91 Yeah, well, I had to, like, imagine I didn't watch all the football.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 70 You were here during the day.

Speaker 66 Yeah, you were here.

Speaker 19 I think you got here at like 5 o'clock that night.

Speaker 56 So you didn't. He didn't have to wake up and watch all the football.

Speaker 14 He was watching football.

Speaker 14 He was working from home. Yeah.

Speaker 56 I was. Yeah, yeah.
You guys don't play the jet game. That is what Billy said.

Speaker 76 He said he had game. I was watching for the show better if he watches from home.

Speaker 3 Wait, the jet game was in the afternoon.

Speaker 91 Right, that's why I watched it at home.

Speaker 14 No, no, no. It was on here.

Speaker 45 It was. You actually came

Speaker 1 traveled in during the Jets game.

Speaker 87 At halftime.

Speaker 21 Okay.

Speaker 56 It's unraveling for me.

Speaker 14 But, Billy, I can't even be mad at you for taking the Colts in this. The Colts are my second team.
They're my AFC team, pending Mr. Ursa's deposition of Dan Snyder.
So I don't hate.

Speaker 67 I don't know who to root for.

Speaker 14 I mean, in a way, it's like, yeah, obviously I want the Commanders to win. Obviously, I'm rooting for Taylor Heineken.
I really like him.

Speaker 14 I want the team to do well, but I can also reach that point where if the Colts end up beating the Commanders, I can spin myself into being like the season's all about next year, anyways.

Speaker 14 But

Speaker 14 it's going to be interesting to watch Ellinger out there because we don't know what we're going to get.

Speaker 14 I feel like it's been so long since we've seen him in a game that I have no idea what he's going to look like against an NFL defense.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 91 He's been working with the starters all week.

Speaker 34 So there we go. Let's see what happens.

Speaker 16 Okay, Jake, your favorite.

Speaker 14 Are we betting? Wait, are we betting a hot hot sauce sub-bet, Billy?

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 32 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 14 Crashing and burning.

Speaker 48 I like it. Okay.

Speaker 56 Doused.

Speaker 14 This is not a moderate dousage.

Speaker 43 Medium dousage. I mean, yeah,

Speaker 60 you had it.

Speaker 14 I doused it. Yeah.

Speaker 34 It was pretty bad, right?

Speaker 14 Medium doused.

Speaker 5 Medium douse.

Speaker 45 Okay.

Speaker 45 Jake.

Speaker 76 I am taking my Miami Dolphins. Minus three and a half at the Detroit Lions.
The Dolphins have yet to lose a football game with a healthy quarterback.

Speaker 76 And the Lions,

Speaker 60 they are bad.

Speaker 14 They are bad. Skylar Thompson was healthy.

Speaker 82 That is true. True healthy starting quarterback.

Speaker 14 Or a backup quarterback, a first backup quarterback.

Speaker 2 So we had two vote of confidences this week from owners.

Speaker 10 One was Nathaniel Hackett,

Speaker 110 and then the other was

Speaker 65 Dan Campbell.

Speaker 17 So the Lions, I think she's the president, Sheila Hamff, whatever, Martha Ford's daughter,

Speaker 19 came out, did a press conference.

Speaker 23 My favorite quote from the whole press conference, she's talking about the rebuild, how painful it is.

Speaker 14 she said nobody hates losing more than i do than my family does but we've got to get through it i think they i think they like losing like they they lose a lot it's it's impossible for her to say that nobody hates losing more than me right because if that were true she would be she would be hanging from a rope somewhere right like that's to say you hate losing as the owner of the lions

Speaker 43 i i'm going to push back on that i think you almost get off on it you might be in the wrong line of business yeah right it's the one job where you just lose all the time yeah it's like if you you work for Barstall and you're like, I hate going to football games.

Speaker 34 Right. It's like, well, it's kind of

Speaker 14 our thing that we do. I hate tits and ass.

Speaker 61 Yeah.

Speaker 60 Not me.

Speaker 14 I hate them. I hate not knowing whose ass that is.

Speaker 85 Does anybody know what company I can work for?

Speaker 51 All right.

Speaker 71 It was a crazy sentence for her to say, but yeah, she did come out and the impromptu press conference midweek to say we believe in Dan Campbell is always a bad sign.

Speaker 14 This is a, I kind of like the dome dogs, though. I like, I like

Speaker 14 the Lions at home.

Speaker 85 I do, too.

Speaker 14 Three and a half. If it was three, I'd be thinking a little bit differently, but three and a half.

Speaker 14 The dome dogs are going to be barking.

Speaker 14 I also just think it's like, what is this world coming to if Mike McDaniel beats Dan Campbell in football?

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 49 You know, like it's a major major of the nerds.

Speaker 14 Yeah, it's a major, like, it's battle of the heads. It's pot versus meat.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Which one you got?

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 49 Go on meathead.

Speaker 3 I also just like the Lions Cowboys game last week.

Speaker 72 We watched that whole game.

Speaker 43 I know that the final score says 24-6, but the Lions were in that game until they played very minutes.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 12 Like, if Micah Parsons isn't just a total freak and doesn't make that tackle at the goal line, the Lions could have won that game.

Speaker 73 Yeah.

Speaker 58 Also, they fumbled at the one-yard.

Speaker 45 Yeah, right after Micah Parsons.

Speaker 14 They were down 10-6 with three minutes left in the game. Yeah.

Speaker 65 So, yeah, I think the Lions, I don't know.

Speaker 35 I'm feeling the Lions this weekend.

Speaker 14 I like Aiden Hutchinson, but it seems like the Lions don't know how to use him correctly. Yeah.

Speaker 14 Because I read a stat the other day that said that um he when he was standing up when he was in a two-point um when he was at michigan his effectiveness was like

Speaker 14 he was twice as effective basically at getting to the quarterback this year he's still twice as effective at getting to the quarterback when he's standing up um but they have him a three-point stance like 95 of the time right which is not good for him and not good for his strength get him standing up get him standing up and uh and just just let him pin his ears back yeah that's what you got to do go get the quarterback tell aiden like pin your ears.

Speaker 14 We're going to let you pin your ears back this weekend.

Speaker 47 Heat up the quarterback.

Speaker 33 Get the quarterback.

Speaker 14 Dial something up.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 21 All right, Hank, you're underdog.

Speaker 67 Dubbears.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 67 Hottest team in the NFL.

Speaker 2 You're just doing this to fuck with me.

Speaker 76 Nine and a half against the Cowboys.

Speaker 58 I don't think Hank would do that.

Speaker 34 All right, okay.

Speaker 14 Hank calls him straight.

Speaker 56 All right.

Speaker 87 All right.

Speaker 21 That's fine.

Speaker 71 I don't feel very great about this game.

Speaker 30 The Robert Quinn trade, short week.

Speaker 45 I'll see if the Bears can put together two games in a row.

Speaker 67 I mean, I was thinking about putting them in the Hungry Dog. Again, I would never do that to fuck with you.
You put the Bucs in the can't lose to fuck with Steven.

Speaker 67 But I.

Speaker 70 I mean, they couldn't lose against the Panthers.

Speaker 63 It was before I knew that Steve Wilkes was from Charlotte.

Speaker 73 If I had known that, I wouldn't have put him in there.

Speaker 53 I've told you my blind spot here.

Speaker 67 I'm going to have to rethink that. I thought you were going to be like, fuck yeah, let's ride.

Speaker 56 Fair season.

Speaker 17 No, if you had asked me on Tuesday when I picked up Justin Field's fifth year option, I would have been like, yeah, they're going to win by 100.

Speaker 20 Now that we're back to reality and I'm back to like, hey, this team might not be that good, but I just want to see Justin Fields do well.

Speaker 78 We'll see.

Speaker 67 The Justin Fields that played Monday night greater than Dak?

Speaker 21 Agreed.

Speaker 67 Why not again?

Speaker 99 Why not again?

Speaker 44 Okay, all right. All right.
You know what?

Speaker 59 I'm going to bet the Bears nine and a half.

Speaker 43 Okay.

Speaker 44 That's a lot of points. It's a lot of points.

Speaker 14 These guys are paid to play football, too.

Speaker 67 That's where I went 0-4. I'm just going back to the well, and it's just like biggest.
I guess guess I would have to take the Steelers in this, but also I'm going big, Justin Fields

Speaker 20 on turf, the Vikings game, and then the Monday night game against the Patriots.

Speaker 11 So, those are his two best games this year.

Speaker 19 He's looked very, very fast. Last I checked, Dallas is in a dome on turf.

Speaker 17 He's gonna look fast again.

Speaker 43 Okay, I'm in.

Speaker 75 Max, your underdog.

Speaker 104 You just talked about it.

Speaker 70 Love the Lions.

Speaker 82 Love the Lions at home.

Speaker 45 Yeah, yeah, good pick.

Speaker 93 Yeah, good, great pick.

Speaker 14 Great pick, Max.

Speaker 49 You know, ball.

Speaker 73 You do no ball. All right.

Speaker 45 PFT.

Speaker 14 I love this underdog so much, in fact, that I might be betting on him straight up.

Speaker 14 Texans.

Speaker 33 Ooh.

Speaker 14 Plus two at home. I think we're going to get

Speaker 91 two and a half.

Speaker 76 Against the Titans, yep.

Speaker 19 This is a big game, by the way.

Speaker 20 If it closes at two and a half, this will be the shortest spread that Davis Mills will ever have as a quarterback.

Speaker 80 He's been wild.

Speaker 29 This is his 18th start.

Speaker 43 He's been an underdog all 18, all over three and a half points.

Speaker 14 But we're getting closer.

Speaker 43 Yeah, we're getting closer.

Speaker 61 We're inching closer, baby.

Speaker 14 And this might be Malik Willis because Tannehill had the walking boot on after the last game. We don't know who it's going to be.

Speaker 14 I thought it was two, so I came up with just, I was just going to say that, what is Lovey Smith famous for as a defensive guy?

Speaker 14 Cover two. Cover two.
Yeah. We're going to cover two this weekend.
Yes, yeah. It seems easy.
It seems like it was written in the stars. Okay.

Speaker 76 This is random, but Titans Texans should always be a one o'clock game. It looks weird at 4.02.

Speaker 67 Yeah, it does.

Speaker 76 That's a one o'clock game for like.

Speaker 56 Commander's Colts looks weird at 4005, too.

Speaker 65 It's a weird matchup.

Speaker 14 Like, I can't remember the last time the football team or the Redskins played the Colts. Yeah.
There's certain teams that you feel like play each other more than twice a year.

Speaker 14 I would say the Titans, Texans is up there. Yeah.
For sure. I feel like they play each other like three or four times.

Speaker 69 And then there's teams that just never play each other.

Speaker 31 Like, I don't, the Dolphins have never played the Seahawks as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 14 No. Or the, I would say, even like the Panthers playing against the

Speaker 58 Chiefs. Yeah.

Speaker 48 I don't think

Speaker 44 That's literally never happened in real history.

Speaker 78 No, that's true.

Speaker 17 That's a fact.

Speaker 70 Okay.

Speaker 20 My underdog, we already talked about it.

Speaker 19 Steve Wilkes, I'm riding plus four and a half.

Speaker 65 I don't know.

Speaker 59 That whole Charlotte thing really got me going.

Speaker 59 Listening to the, reading those quotes from the guys being like, we're winning one for Steve Wilkes.

Speaker 43 I'm in.

Speaker 10 I'm in on the Panthers.

Speaker 59 Bang that drum.

Speaker 73 Okay, your underdog, Billy.

Speaker 91 Go with the Jets, two and a half. Have to.
So just, it's all or nothing. Yeah.

Speaker 56 I like putting it out.

Speaker 17 I like this, Billy. Balls on the table.

Speaker 60 Yep.

Speaker 91 They're either getting fight clubbed or we're walking out of there.

Speaker 78 I like Kerb. Kerbstomped.

Speaker 56 Yes.

Speaker 84 Yes.

Speaker 3 Okay, Jake, you're underdog.

Speaker 76 I'm going with a new game. I'm going with the Giants plus three at the Seahawks.

Speaker 76 Last week, we all went against the Giants because we thought it was a rat line. We were wrong, so I'm not going to go against them again.
Obviously, a cross-country road trip, but Giants are hot.

Speaker 70 But we were right there. This is a rat line, too, though.

Speaker 14 Yeah, we were right last week

Speaker 14 about it being a rat line, and we're saying it makes no sense. So, in a way,

Speaker 70 we nailed it last week.

Speaker 20 Here's what I would say to you, Jake. If anyone pushes back, you'd be like, I just, I'm going to keep betting the Giants till they don't cover the spread.

Speaker 3 Right. They're 6-1 against the spread.

Speaker 72 They keep winning these games.

Speaker 22 Also, for a little nugget, for anyone who's trying to maybe bet this game a different way, Seattle is 6-1 against the spread in the first half.

Speaker 71 The Giants are 6-1 against the spread in the second half.

Speaker 14 Interesting.

Speaker 23 You can do a little double dip there.

Speaker 14 I feel like Dable is a very good in-game coach, and Pete Carroll, I don't think, is a very good in-game coach.

Speaker 14 I think Pete Carroll has got a lot of strengths, but in terms of adjustments and being strategic with things like challenges, timeouts, stuff like that,

Speaker 14 he's not even in my top 10 of coaches I would want.

Speaker 34 Dable's coached seven games.

Speaker 49 Yeah, but he's been good.

Speaker 56 Let's not get crazy here.

Speaker 70 Should we be happy for him?

Speaker 51 I am happy for him.

Speaker 61 recruiting the ass.

Speaker 67 I like, I mean, he's a. I love him.
I love great dude. I'm just saying, like,

Speaker 67 Pete Carroll's coached 100,000 games. Dables coached seven, and you're talking about them.

Speaker 19 Did you see the guy, though, that they brought onto the active roster, Candace, this week?

Speaker 67 You know what? I'm sorry. I apologize.

Speaker 14 I didn't see that. Who was that?

Speaker 91 Hank, did you see that? Is that the guy Kanye listens to?

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 67 No.

Speaker 56 Candace?

Speaker 112 Candace?

Speaker 10 You didn't see that?

Speaker 67 Candace Owens?

Speaker 71 It was a Candy's nuts.

Speaker 21 Yeah. I got that.
Oh, you got it? Did you?

Speaker 31 That's Brian Dable's favorite.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 14 I do think that it's fair for us to say that Brian Dable, based on what we've seen, he's been great.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 81 He has.

Speaker 14 Now, Pete Carroll, Hank, of all people, you should know Pete Carroll doesn't always make the right decision at the end of games.

Speaker 49 Right?

Speaker 14 Can I put that in terms you understand?

Speaker 67 What are you talking about?

Speaker 14 Sometime, are you doing, are you playing dumb again?

Speaker 56 At the end of a Super Bowl,

Speaker 14 Pete Carroll decided to pass the ball instead of run the ball.

Speaker 14 That's my entire point.

Speaker 14 Like, Pete Carroll's a great coach at a lot of things, but I don't think that he's better than Brian Dable at in-game adjustments and at like crunch time decision-makings and strategy. Yes.

Speaker 14 I just don't so far.

Speaker 67 I agree, and I apologize for

Speaker 67 disputing your take.

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Speaker 61 Okay, Overs. Hank.

Speaker 3 Overs got to come back eventually.

Speaker 60 Yep.

Speaker 67 Start with the Lover.

Speaker 49 Yeah. Oh, Hank.

Speaker 58 How could you? Oh, my God.

Speaker 87 Jake got so dropped.

Speaker 14 I agree with Jake on this. This is messed.
You know that we're all going to take the under in this game.

Speaker 25 Not me.

Speaker 85 The Lover?

Speaker 67 Taking the Lover. The Irish Lover.
39.5 Jaguars Broncos.

Speaker 32 Wow.

Speaker 14 The London Jaguars.

Speaker 42 Wow.

Speaker 71 This is going to be a gross game.

Speaker 18 Gross game.

Speaker 67 Okay. I don't think so.
I think. I think.

Speaker 71 You think Russell Wilson, this is the week he puts it all together?

Speaker 26 It's going to be, yeah.

Speaker 14 His hamstrings are very loose. Yeah, that's the best.

Speaker 67 And

Speaker 67 again, preseason, everyone loved the Broncos. Two weeks ago, you guys were loving the Jaguars, saying they're one of the most fun teams, explosive teams, teams with a lot of potential.

Speaker 67 I think it's going to be a shootout.

Speaker 14 If you ever said explosive, oh, yeah.

Speaker 27 I don't know. That's funny.

Speaker 74 Hold on, our takes against us now.

Speaker 70 I like the characters.

Speaker 54 Okay.

Speaker 96 Your over, Max.

Speaker 104 Just talked about Giant Seahawks over 44.5. I think both these teams are good.
I think this is actually going to be a great game.

Speaker 21 So over.

Speaker 45 I like it. I like it.
PFT?

Speaker 14 My over is going to be Steelers-Eagles.

Speaker 56 Oh.

Speaker 34 Over 43.

Speaker 14 I think the Birds are going to get 30. Yeah.
And then I just need, I need two. I just need two out of the Steelers.
I know that, like, a lot of people talk about Mike Tomlin as an underdog.

Speaker 14 There's a reason why Mike Tomlin's been so good as an underdog is because in the past it hasn't happened that often, and he had pretty good teams. Right.

Speaker 14 And so this isn't as good of a team that he's had. So

Speaker 14 I'm not going to touch the Steelers, even though it's a big spread, but I do like over 43. And here's a fun little story, a quirky little story about the Steelers and the Eagles.
Yeah.

Speaker 14 Did you know that the Steelers and the Eagles were at one time the same team? Yeah.

Speaker 58 The Steagles.

Speaker 14 They were the Stegles back in World War II. So they were combined because the Eagles lost a lot of players to go overseas and fight in World War II.

Speaker 14 The president at the time, FDR, said that he wanted major league baseball teams to stick together and give fans something to cheer about, but he didn't give that same directive to the NFL.

Speaker 14 So the NFL lost a lot of players. They combined forces.
They played like six out of eight games in Philadelphia. They played two in Pittsburgh.
They went 5-3-1, I believe, on the season.

Speaker 14 And that was the Philadelphia Eagles' very first winning season. Wow.
Was when they were the Stegles.

Speaker 29 So shout out to Stegles.

Speaker 19 I went on Pittsburgh radio this morning because we do it every other week, me and PFT, and our guys,

Speaker 19 Randy and Bill Crawford,

Speaker 19 they told me that Nick Siriani did his entire press conference talking about how he grew up a Pittsburgh fan, how he loved the Steelers, and they're worried that he's basically so not concerned.

Speaker 31 concerned with the Steelers that he spent the entire time talking about how much he loves them.

Speaker 14 Interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 54 And also, a stat for everyone out there: undefeated teams off a bye week in the last 20 years are 14 and 2 against the spread.

Speaker 14 That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
So they've had a lot of time to think about it.

Speaker 17 They've had a lot of time to think about it.

Speaker 14 You know who the coach of the Eagles was then back in World War II, Max?

Speaker 14 I did not. The guy's name was Greasy Neal.

Speaker 43 Nice.

Speaker 56 Great name. I like that.

Speaker 82 Pretty good name.

Speaker 21 Greasy Neale.

Speaker 70 Yeah,

Speaker 14 the coach of the Eagles should always just be called Greasy Neil. Greasy Neil.
It's like how the grittiest player on LSU wears number 18. Yeah.
It should just be be Greasy Neal as the coach.

Speaker 43 Greasy Neal.

Speaker 54 I like that.

Speaker 54 Okay, my over,

Speaker 20 I'm kind of riding with Billy in a different way.

Speaker 72 I'm taking over 39.5 in the Commanders' Colts because I think the

Speaker 8 ability for both Taylor Heineke and Sam Mellinger to do fuck shit both ways is high.

Speaker 17 Awesome passes for touchdowns.

Speaker 59 Also, maybe some awesome passes for pick sixes.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 59 There is a high volatility in this game.

Speaker 14 It's a good game to double bet the defense/slash special teams touchdown on both sides.

Speaker 21 Yes, yes.

Speaker 78 Okay, you're over Billy.

Speaker 91 I'm going Bears, Cowboys, 42.5.

Speaker 91 Low number at Cowboys. I actually like the Bears' offense, watching them against the Patriots.
Thank you. So, in the Cowboys, I think

Speaker 91 Dak's back.

Speaker 19 Dak is back.

Speaker 56 He played last week. Well,

Speaker 88 you were watching all the football, so you must have missed it.

Speaker 56 Right, Dak's back. The whole game you got back.
Dak's back, but we'll see what happens.

Speaker 49 Dak didn't look that great last week.

Speaker 12 No, he had a little rust.

Speaker 56 A little rust.

Speaker 49 So I could forgive Billy for not being wowed by Dak's.

Speaker 91 No, what I mean is like, is Dak fully back?

Speaker 56 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 87 Yeah, he played a full game.

Speaker 56 I know. No, but he wasn't.

Speaker 49 Is the rust off.

Speaker 14 He wasn't fully back.

Speaker 56 So I mean,

Speaker 34 this week, I think, is going to be back.

Speaker 33 He's fully back.

Speaker 56 Yeah, fully back. Fully back.

Speaker 64 Okay.

Speaker 73 Jake. I'm with Billy.

Speaker 76 I heard Dak's back, so I like the silver.

Speaker 45 Okay, nice.

Speaker 69 Breaking news. Dak is back.

Speaker 23 First reported on pardon, my take.

Speaker 54 Okay, unders.

Speaker 15 Unders.

Speaker 14 We talked about it.

Speaker 67 PFT just did. I am going under Philly Steelers.
Ew.

Speaker 87 Ew.

Speaker 67 I agree basically with everything that PFT said. I just don't think the Steelers are going to have any points in them.

Speaker 67 Their offense is gross to watch. The Steelers are good.
They have Robert Quinn now. I think it's going to be a low-scoring blowout.

Speaker 14 Okay. Yeah, but I just need, just give me two touchdowns.

Speaker 70 That's a lot.

Speaker 74 That's all I need. That's asking a lot.

Speaker 34 Couldn't even get one against Buffalo. I know, just really needed that.

Speaker 2 Just give me one.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Give me one, and then the let the birds get up to like 35 points. 35-7.

Speaker 14 That feels good. No, that wait, that's still the under.

Speaker 58 That's under.

Speaker 14 But then they go for two.

Speaker 70 35-35-8.

Speaker 14 35-8, and that's 55. 35-8.
Just get me. I'm betting on a push.

Speaker 45 Get a push.

Speaker 99 Okay, Max.

Speaker 104 I think Dak is not back.

Speaker 87 Under. Ooh.

Speaker 51 Good.

Speaker 56 How dare you?

Speaker 14 I love that Max just straight up does bet as a homer.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 14 He's like, fuck the Cowboys.

Speaker 76 Yeah, I think

Speaker 104 I've gone negative towards the giants or cowboys every single time. I love her every single week.

Speaker 14 I love it. I can respect it.

Speaker 49 Okay, you're under.

Speaker 14 I'm taking the Lunder, taking the London. You got to take the Lunder.
Jags, Broncos, going to be some wet, long grass over in England.

Speaker 14 You got to take the under when the Jaguars are playing in London.

Speaker 37 Okay, my under is going to be the Panthers, Falcons.

Speaker 71 We've already talked about this game at length, but I think both teams are just going to want to run the ball.

Speaker 88 And we've established that the Falcons will not pass more than 13 times a game.

Speaker 3 So just give me run plays all day under 41.5.

Speaker 54 Billy,

Speaker 21 under.

Speaker 91 Dolphins, Lions, 57.

Speaker 65 51. 51.

Speaker 14 I love it at 57.

Speaker 91 I know.

Speaker 91 I misread my note.

Speaker 60 51.

Speaker 70 51.

Speaker 64 Okay.

Speaker 26 That's high.

Speaker 14 Those two teams. It's a lot of points.
It's a lot of points to cover.

Speaker 22 Okay.

Speaker 110 And Jake, Lunder.

Speaker 45 Lunder. It's our last chance.
Yep, yeah.

Speaker 77 0-2 on the year.

Speaker 76 We have.

Speaker 17 They're not playing at Tottenham this time.

Speaker 22 It's Wembley.

Speaker 49 Yeah. So that's good for you.

Speaker 21 That's Tottenham's.

Speaker 16 Tottenham's the over stadium.

Speaker 90 Wembley is not.

Speaker 76 November 13th, we have Seahawks Bucks in Germany and Niners Cardinals the week after in Mexico. So I'll be brainstorming

Speaker 56 how to do that.

Speaker 104 Mexico over.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 14 The Mexicover sounds good.

Speaker 72 That is fun.

Speaker 14 I would take the under. They blitz a lot over there.

Speaker 45 It's true.

Speaker 56 Yeah. We'll figure it out.
All right.

Speaker 45 We figured it out.

Speaker 3 All right. Games we missed.

Speaker 44 Cardinals, Vikings.

Speaker 9 I think this might be the fraud alert time for the Vikings.

Speaker 21 Fraud alert.

Speaker 71 I think the Cardinals might win this game outright.

Speaker 110 Yep.

Speaker 19 And I think this might be the fraud alert time.

Speaker 67 They're in the Hungry Dog parlay. We should talk about Mount Rushmore, too.
Yeah, we will.

Speaker 78 Yep.

Speaker 14 I don't hate this because the Cardinals are actually good traveling east. Yes.
They're the one team that's like, I think they're 13 and 4 when they go east.

Speaker 20 It's funny because it's just a different way to...

Speaker 2 I was reading that same stat.

Speaker 45 It's just a different way to repackage that the Cardinals suck at home.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Because every stat is like the Cardinals suck at home.

Speaker 71 And then you're like, yeah, when Kyler Murray is in the Eastern Standard Time or Central Time, he is like 15 and 4.

Speaker 94 It's like, well, yeah, he just sucks at home.

Speaker 14 You could also repackage that as saying like when he plays on the East Coast servers. Yes.
Like they're maybe faster. Yes.
Faster upload.

Speaker 61 Do Call of Duty out right. Yeah.

Speaker 91 Comes out tonight.

Speaker 56 So today.

Speaker 72 All right. So maybe not Fraud Alert for the Vikings this week.

Speaker 3 Other game we missed, Raiders, Saints.

Speaker 11 Should we put Josh Jacobs in the Rushmore?

Speaker 90 He's been away. Yeah.

Speaker 14 I was going to put him on mine. Beautiful.

Speaker 67 I have two picks.

Speaker 14 One's one's a chalk pick one's you know let's get nuts pick i'll let you guys decide which okay okay so i think that's every game we hit every game other than that good for us yeah that was good for us good good tight tight preview there um i just think it's bullshit that the the coach of the saints dennis allen came out and said jameis is healthy but we're sticking with andy yeah that is bullshit that's fucked up i also just i'm so sick of the saints

Speaker 14 i just am they should be good and they're not I don't know if they should be good though. I feel like they should.
They don't have Sean Payton anymore.

Speaker 96 Yeah, I was expecting their defense to be good and it's just not sean payton would never ever bench jameis in favor of andy dalton that's a fact sean payton puts his nuts on the table that's a fact it's bullshit uh okay so we have josh jacobs in the rush more who else uh i'll go mine i'm gonna go i'm gonna just go back to the well kenneth walker he's gonna be offensive rookie of the year as long as he doesn't get hurt kenneth walker billy wants to take sam allinger and put like plus three thousand you're a moron billy no well i'm not crashing and burning with well they can pick whatever they want but jake like that's where it's like, you guys have to.

Speaker 70 Yeah, no, we're not doing that.

Speaker 14 Okay, Billy's on a kamikaze mission. He's like, hey, could you, like, do navigation for me? No, I'm not getting in your plane, Billy.

Speaker 22 All right, so

Speaker 20 we have Josh Jacobs, Kenneth Walker.

Speaker 67 You want me to do nuts or chalk?

Speaker 5 Well, give it, give us the.

Speaker 67 No,

Speaker 67 I want you to.

Speaker 14 Oh, God. For nuts, he's probably going to do Josh Allen again.

Speaker 43 No, I want nuts.

Speaker 67 Kyla Murray.

Speaker 56 What?

Speaker 27 It's kind of nuts. Oh.

Speaker 14 What about when they didn't they play last year?

Speaker 67 It's fraud alert. We just talked about it.
They're going to fucking roll the Vikings.

Speaker 56 Man.

Speaker 14 It is Fraud City.

Speaker 25 He needs like four scrambles.

Speaker 61 All right.

Speaker 22 So his rushing yards

Speaker 71 this season, 30, 100, 42, 26, 8, 28, 29.

Speaker 112 So he has not gotten it every game except one.

Speaker 67 So he's due.

Speaker 14 I don't know.

Speaker 56 What was the nuts?

Speaker 61 Saquon.

Speaker 1 All right. You know what?

Speaker 40 I asked for nuts, so we have to do nuts.

Speaker 99 Kyler Murray.

Speaker 67 I literally left it up to the bottom of the street.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, no, you're right, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 83 All right,

Speaker 16 so now you're you're picking.

Speaker 22 We could just do Sam Ellenger because we're not going to win it.

Speaker 21 No, don't pick it.

Speaker 56 Don't bill it. Come on, big cat.

Speaker 32 All right, fine.

Speaker 73 Well, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 15 Don't do another one.

Speaker 73 What do we get?

Speaker 76 We'll go with Jonathan Taylor. He's got a bounce back.

Speaker 37 Injuries and all right, so Jonathan Taylor, Kenneth Walker, Josh Jacobs, Kyler Murray.

Speaker 3 That should be some decent odds.

Speaker 67 We've already, yeah, we've hit it two weeks in a row. Yeah, let's get nuts.
You know, we're up some units. We had some remote.

Speaker 51 Should we add Josh Allen?

Speaker 21 Fuck it.

Speaker 39 All right, that's our Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 3 We have one at two weeks in a row.

Speaker 72 Everyone go better in the Barstool Sportsbook.

Speaker 1 Let's finish up the show with Fire Fest of the week.

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The road trip might be over, but dinner's just getting good.

Speaker 17 All right, give us your fire fest.

Speaker 67 All right, this is a real fire fest.

Speaker 61 No, you can't get the lottery ball?

Speaker 67 No.

Speaker 25 I'm going to win five grand.

Speaker 67 You know, I've had a few weeks where it's like, I don't have one. I'm just make something up, a little short story.
This one's been rattling me.

Speaker 67 I've had know, anxiety and just regrets about it all week. We were at LSU last weekend.
Fred's Friday night. I got not just very drunk.
I got pretty much legless. Banged up.
Banged up.

Speaker 67 Woke up on Saturday.

Speaker 91 Like

Speaker 67 my knees were on the ground and I was face down or like lying on the chair. Like I wasn't even on the bed.
I was fully clothed.

Speaker 56 I just like, I just woke up like,

Speaker 67 like not even ass up, just like knees on the ground head on the chair for whatever reason not bent over just like it sounds like you're in a you're in a bent over position i i looked like uh leo in wolf of wall street like crawling to the car basically like i was just like kind of up my arms were just up uh my my sink was on and i was like holy fuck that was and then i you know your sink was on

Speaker 67 yeah okay i was like what's going on uh and i was like oh you know we're at freds like must have came home it was fine whatever i was fucked up but whatever then I see, we go to the, we go back to Fred's where the college football show was.

Speaker 67 I see this guy, Cam, who is, who's like with Raisin Cain's, like, we met and became friendly at Final Four. And he was like, oh, like, good seeing you last night.

Speaker 67 And it was one of those moments where it all comes back to you. Like, you see someone and you're like, oh, my God.
I was like, I didn't get back from Fred's and go to sleep. I went into the casino.

Speaker 67 And I saw he was with Drewski, who's like, I'm a huge fan of him. I think he's the funniest dude in the world.
And I remember, I was like, holy fuck, I was so fucked up. And I went up to him.

Speaker 67 And we obviously deal, you guys deal with like Stoolies and AWLs. 99% of the time they're fine.
And then there's the 1% of the time, like, they're just fucked up.

Speaker 67 And you're like, they're talking to you. And you can tell, like, this dude's not going to remember any of this conversation.

Speaker 67 They're usually kind of annoying because they're drunk and they don't realize how annoying they're being. And I just had the moment of realization where, like, I was that guy.

Speaker 89 Like, I went up to Drewski and was just like, oh, dude, I fucking love you.

Speaker 74 Like, you're so funny.

Speaker 67 And just just like, I don't even really remember what I was saying. I just remember like I was super, super fucked up talking to him, and I probably was making an absolute fool of myself.

Speaker 67 And so, like, all week, I've just been like, you're such a fucking idiot.

Speaker 67 Did you get a picture with him? Damn.

Speaker 88 No.

Speaker 67 I was with Megan.

Speaker 107 Megan was there, and she said that, like, that doesn't help.

Speaker 67 Someone came up to, well, yeah, it was probably her fault, but like.

Speaker 67 Someone came up to Druski and was like, take a picture. Can we take a picture? And

Speaker 67 I was like, yeah, I'll take it. And then I was like cross-eyed and couldn't even take the picture.
Like, I was like too drunk to take the picture.

Speaker 67 Megan's like, I had to take the phone and take the picture. So that is just like one of those,

Speaker 99 you know,

Speaker 67 I've just had a firefight

Speaker 67 where it's just like, you know, all week I've just been like, fuck.

Speaker 89 What did you say?

Speaker 110 You should probably DM him and be like, yo, man, cool.

Speaker 15 Well, then we saw, no,

Speaker 67 we saw him on the field and like the, there was a, it'll probably be in stool scenes. He was like, saw him.

Speaker 25 He's like, oh, you were fucked up last night.

Speaker 67 And I was like, yeah, my bad. And then in the camera, this did not happen, but it's gonna be in stool scenes.
People are gonna think it happened.

Speaker 67 He was like, Yeah, this dude puked at the table, and I was like, What? And I was like, I didn't even play on tables, but like, he was like, obviously, joking around.

Speaker 67 But yeah, totally, that's it, that's out there.

Speaker 49 Hank definitely believed him.

Speaker 57 Hank definitely didn't puke at the table.

Speaker 56 I did believe him.

Speaker 56 I did, I did. Well, he didn't say it.

Speaker 14 No, I just want to be crystal clear because it's going to be in stool scenes that you puked at the table.

Speaker 81 You did not.

Speaker 36 You did not.

Speaker 56 I did not.

Speaker 67 I didn't even get on the table because I didn't have to.

Speaker 14 No, you weren't even close to the table.

Speaker 69 Two things we found out on this show: Dak is back.

Speaker 72 Hank did not puke on the table.

Speaker 67 Thank you. Thank you for clearing that up.

Speaker 70 I did not thumb on my cat.

Speaker 82 I did not

Speaker 56 hit my cat.

Speaker 67 But yeah, that's just one of those, like, it's just, you know,

Speaker 67 drunken regret. The worst.
The worst. Never meet your heroes when you're blackout drunk.
Yes.

Speaker 67 I'm sure there's a lot of AW, like, you guys know exactly the type of person when they come up and you're just like.

Speaker 67 It's not even annoying. You're just like, this dude is not going to remember any of this conversation.
Right. So let me just leave.
Yeah.

Speaker 59 And that was me.

Speaker 14 That's the worst feeling, too, is like the next day you see somebody, and the first thing they say to you is, man, you were fucked up last night.

Speaker 14 Because then you just, you, you try to replay back everything that happened. Well, but there's all these gaps, and you're like, you think the worst possible thing.

Speaker 67 The worst was

Speaker 74 on the table.

Speaker 56 Yeah, which he didn't do. He didn't.

Speaker 85 Dodged a bullet.

Speaker 67 Was seeing Cam, like his, his, the guy he was with, and I'm friendly with, and he was like, oh, good seeing you last night, man. And then it was like the

Speaker 67 like everything started to flash back, and you're like, oh my God, I did see him last night, and he was with Truski. Fuck.

Speaker 25 And I was like, I was like, you got the table. No, I didn't.

Speaker 14 And I went to his place, and he had a tiger.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 67 Puked on the table. Mangled.
Did not puke on the table.

Speaker 70 Didn't puke on the table. Pulled my own tooth out.

Speaker 89 I keep getting confused.

Speaker 22 You did not?

Speaker 70 No. Right.

Speaker 14 I think my favorite part of that story, though, is Hank waking up ass up on a chair with the sink.

Speaker 61 What the fuck?

Speaker 14 Okay.

Speaker 84 That's a good one, Hank.

Speaker 14 That's a very good fire fest. I can't even really hold a candle to that.

Speaker 14 My fire fest fest is: I got a pair of new shoes, and it's that thing where you think back at all the stuff that you wanted when you were a kid that your parents wouldn't get for you, and then you get older and you get a job, and you're like, you know what?

Speaker 14 I can get all the stuff my parents said was too expensive back then. So I got another pair of pennies today.

Speaker 14 Actually, yesterday, I put them on for the first time. Let me see.
Let me see.

Speaker 34 C2s.

Speaker 14 Oh, those are sick. They're sick.
They're clean. These are clean, is what the kids are saying.
And I wore low-cut socks with them.

Speaker 27 And

Speaker 14 the back of my heel heel hurts so bad that I can only walk for like, I don't know, 30 feet at a time. Then I have to stop.

Speaker 14 I have to stop walking and then restart my walk after the blisters start to feel better. Yeah.

Speaker 58 Which is six shoes. Six shoes.

Speaker 14 Look good. Totally worth it.

Speaker 67 It's like when girls wear heels. Sometimes you got to

Speaker 67 suffer for the fit.

Speaker 14 Yeah, I should start to carry around like just a pair of flip-flops in a bag and take my shoes off.

Speaker 67 Wedding season. Yeah, once you get drunk, take your shoes off.

Speaker 21 Yeah, oh, finally.

Speaker 14 Oh my God. You guys know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 49 Yeah.

Speaker 54 All right.

Speaker 1 I've alluded to this, but my

Speaker 30 son is now actually interested in basketball. We play every night in his room.

Speaker 2 Problem is, it is confirmed he's a lefty, and I don't know what to do.

Speaker 21 What the fuck to do?

Speaker 5 You got a witch.

Speaker 1 I don't know how to teach him how.

Speaker 29 I know it should be easy to just flip it, but I cannot.

Speaker 3 It makes no sense to me shooting lefty.

Speaker 22 So I've been trying to show him, and it just isn't working.

Speaker 91 That's even baseball. Yeah,

Speaker 67 he's not even basketball.

Speaker 25 Call over over Uncle Hank.

Speaker 56 Oh, man.

Speaker 74 You're going to have to show.

Speaker 17 Yeah, show him how to shoot lefty because it's just.

Speaker 26 I'm lefty, too.

Speaker 21 Are you? Yeah.

Speaker 76 But, like, I'm not afraid of it.

Speaker 56 I hate lefty.

Speaker 60 Wait, you're not a lefty in golf, are you?

Speaker 21 No. No.

Speaker 20 Ambidextrous.

Speaker 67 Maybe I'll just keep pushing righty so he is ambidextrous.

Speaker 35 But it's just

Speaker 35 a brace.

Speaker 59 He's all lefty.

Speaker 1 He writes lefty.

Speaker 110 He pulls spoon lefty.

Speaker 5 And then when I was trying to teach him how to shoot, he was like, it wasn't computing for him.

Speaker 2 It wasn't computing for me. And then he did it with his left hand and it worked.

Speaker 91 That's exactly what they did to Ben Simmons. That's what his father did, and now he can't shoot.
So just keep him lefty.

Speaker 71 But he is in the NBA.

Speaker 14 No, Ben Simmons is right-handed. Right.
But he shoots left-handed.

Speaker 26 But they switched it up on him.

Speaker 2 Right, but he's in the NBA.

Speaker 43 Right, but he can't. So,

Speaker 43 he's in the NBA.

Speaker 14 So, yeah, here's all you do.

Speaker 17 I would be fine with my son if he got to the NBA and couldn't shoot.

Speaker 14 Here's all you do. Just take

Speaker 34 this hoop away.

Speaker 70 6'10?

Speaker 73 Who knows?

Speaker 1 Now he's like 2 1 ⁇ 2.

Speaker 51 You gotta take

Speaker 56 tall.

Speaker 14 Take the hoop away and let him work on his handles and go the Ben Simmons route on that one. Or I think Billy's right.

Speaker 14 Like, give him a baseball because a lefty in baseball, you might have struck a gold mine. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 14 Lefty in baseball are, you could try to, I don't know, like, what the laws are around parenting, so forgive me if this is out of bounds. Just tie his hand behind his back.
No, that's a lap.

Speaker 14 And just have him walk around just only using his right hand for like a full week.

Speaker 3 I'll just put his right hand in a cast.

Speaker 14 Yeah, just break it. Like, you broke your hand.
No, I think they

Speaker 67 did that in the 50s. Yeah.
Like, you weren't allowed to be a lefty.

Speaker 21 Tom Marinovich, right? Didn't

Speaker 44 that do all that shit?

Speaker 67 Well, no, I think like in general, like, if you were a lefty, you would get, like, stoned to death.

Speaker 56 Yeah, I remember being a witch.

Speaker 91 I remember reading some book about a pastor breaking his son's left hand so he became a righty.

Speaker 60 Whoa. I don't remember what the book was about.

Speaker 35 I'm not going to do any of that.

Speaker 1 I just can't.

Speaker 50 My brain is too dumb to figure out how to teach something lefty when I'm not.

Speaker 14 Just whatever you do, don't let him be a quarterback. Yeah.
It just looks too dumb.

Speaker 90 It looks so weird.

Speaker 73 Again, though. That's exciting.

Speaker 74 If he's too, like.

Speaker 19 If he looks weird in the NFL, that'd be cool.

Speaker 67 Creative. Creative cat.

Speaker 50 Yeah. Fuck.

Speaker 110 Creative kitten.

Speaker 91 My brain is in in a twister trying to figure out how to teach things lefty uh billy so uh the basketball team that hank and i are on uh it's 2-0 now and but uh we were tied up at the end of regulation uh we were supposed to run an iso play so i was out of the way and then it got messed up i ended up getting the ball with time about to expire i had a chance to win the game and i missed

Speaker 91 And I've been thinking about it. We ended up winning in overtime, but I had the chance to just like lock out.

Speaker 14 How bad was the shot?

Speaker 5 It was a mid-range jumper actually almost went in was it like you were was it i mean billy's shooting were you hogging it no

Speaker 67 i was no it was like uh he was the third option okay wasn't expecting to get the ball so you can't get mad at yourself i know but i could have done it i i've been shooting well we're also we're in a league that's no shooting saying no he has not been shooting well well well

Speaker 14 Anyway,

Speaker 14 use your words. This is a podcast.

Speaker 91 No, no, positive vibes. We're having an amazing season.

Speaker 67 Yeah, but Hank gave you this look like I think he was going to be like, well, you also played like shit and can't shoot, which is true.

Speaker 91 No, but anyway.

Speaker 32 I don't think you've hit a jumper.

Speaker 25 I haven't either. I haven't either.

Speaker 15 But once Hank gets hot, he's hot.

Speaker 13 I've said it before.

Speaker 3 Hank playing basketball, like he will show up and he will literally miss the rim and hit the side of the, like, the side of the backboard, and then he'll hit like 10 in a row swish.

Speaker 91 Anyway, we're transitioning from outdoor courts to indoor courts. The shot hasn't really adapted yet.
I just need to show up 15 minutes early before the games.

Speaker 14 It should be a season.

Speaker 34 The seat shooting,

Speaker 14 yeah. It actually should be

Speaker 56 playing on weak rims.

Speaker 69 That's like saying all batting donut to not. Wait, so you guys are going to be able to get a moment.

Speaker 51 All-time funny, funny moment with these refs.

Speaker 67 The game ended, or

Speaker 67 Billy misses shot, and the refs go, all right, that's it. There's no overtime in regulation or in regular season.
Everyone's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 67 And then we convinced the ref to give us like give us two minutes of overtime. But the refs were like ready to just leave.

Speaker 73 Yeah. Like, all right, game's over.

Speaker 67 Todd.

Speaker 60 But we had an awesome game.

Speaker 91 I mean, that was one of our toughest opponents. We paid a bunch of firefighters who had like set plays and everything.

Speaker 91 But now we also have to learn, like, we had first time with refs, so we have to shoot free throws now.

Speaker 60 So, like, we have to start practicing.

Speaker 14 We paid some refs to make first responders stay longer so you could beat them.

Speaker 33 Yes. Okay, got it.

Speaker 34 That's what happened. Okay.

Speaker 21 But it was fun.

Speaker 29 That does sound fun. Jake, finish us off.

Speaker 76 Yeah, so my apartment's elevator broke. Oh, no.
There's only one elevator, and we're on the seventh of eighth floors. So for the whole weekend, was anyone in

Speaker 67 the bottom when it happened?

Speaker 76 Hank, no, I don't think anyone got stuck. Okay,

Speaker 76 but yeah, it was a lot of stairs over the weekend, but

Speaker 14 were you working with an Otis or a Tyson Krupp?

Speaker 76 I have no clue.

Speaker 32 Yeah, yeah, I'm an Otis man.

Speaker 14 I'm an Otis man.

Speaker 14 I've got a lot of experience dealing with broken elevators, and in New York, it's it's really a a come to Jesus moment of realization when your elevator breaks down and you get in touch with your building super and you realize that he just has no motivation to fix it quickly and he can tell you at any given time, well, tough tough shit, just take the stairs.

Speaker 14 And then you're like, well, I guess I'm going to walk up now.

Speaker 70 Yeah, that was tough.

Speaker 31 That is tough. I'm sorry.

Speaker 19 Sorry for your loss.

Speaker 14 Your calves are going to look good, though.

Speaker 59 Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 22 So Hank wants to get his first win with Edelman in the room,

Speaker 3 but we should do our picks right now.

Speaker 31 He can just do his later. Do you want to?

Speaker 14 Do you want to?

Speaker 15 No, he doesn't get to pick now.

Speaker 25 I just need 17 to hit.

Speaker 56 No.

Speaker 9 Yeah. All right.
So what's everyone else's?

Speaker 67 I'm doing 87.

Speaker 83 Wait, are you picking now?

Speaker 14 He's going 87.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm going to go 77.

Speaker 67 We're not doing this too. We're not doing this.

Speaker 67 If we're all picking, I'm you should let the guests pick tonight regardless.

Speaker 92 Okay, yeah, I'll let the guests pick tonight for you.

Speaker 15 So they gotta we'll get two.

Speaker 44 Yeah, we'll get two.

Speaker 56 All right, 87.

Speaker 93 You know what? Fine.

Speaker 1 I'll let you have two shots at it today.

Speaker 45 Thanks.

Speaker 87 All right.

Speaker 14 17.

Speaker 27 18.

Speaker 29 32.

Speaker 82 I think you said 89.

Speaker 14 87. Okay.

Speaker 104 Watch PM TV for the history of the lottery ball.

Speaker 14 20.

Speaker 11 What's yours, Jake?

Speaker 43 18.

Speaker 55 78.

Speaker 56 Oh, the reciprocal.

Speaker 27 Oh,

Speaker 27 Hank.

Speaker 21 That's tough.

Speaker 3 78.

Speaker 106 If you read it backwards, if you read it in Hebrew, he got it.

Speaker 56 Yes. There you go, Hank.

Speaker 17 That's got to count for something.

Speaker 20 You had two shots and you didn't get it.

Speaker 3 We haven't even taped Edelman yet, but I guarantee you won't get that one either.

Speaker 60 Oh, man.

Speaker 14 And the painting behind Hank Ford.

Speaker 70 Oh, that's a new number.

Speaker 27 A A new number.

Speaker 56 Wow.

Speaker 1 The lottery ball machine is going to, in its quest, how many numbers we have left?

Speaker 17 6, 2, 6, 2, 7, 29. That's it.

Speaker 20 Four numbers to beat Hank.

Speaker 14 It's man versus machine.

Speaker 14 It's like John Henry.

Speaker 3 Oh, man.

Speaker 11 78. You were so close.

Speaker 18 You were so close.

Speaker 69 I will see everyone on Monday.

Speaker 14 Love you guys.

Speaker 91 A bar-tailed Godwit flew from Alaska to Tasmania in 11 days. That's a bird flying across the earth.

Speaker 34 Go bird both poles in 11 days.

Speaker 91 Almost as fast as a Boeing 747.

Speaker 91 Not exactly, but no.

Speaker 114 It's just really impressive.

Speaker 114 I don't know what to say or take it anyway.

Speaker 114 Today's a market defined

Speaker 114 through

Speaker 114 things I've buried away.

Speaker 114 You're all the things I've got to remember.

Speaker 114 I'll make

Speaker 114 you

Speaker 114 drink of me.

Speaker 114 the