NFL Week 6, Bills Big Win, Packers & Bucs In Trouble, Fastest 2 Minutes & Playoff Baseball

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Thank you to Papa John's. Today is Monday, October 17th, week six.
We start in Steel City, where disgruntled Steeler fans were hoping mediocre Mike had a rabbit in his hat as big underdogs. The game started normal until, oh my God, the Bucs killed Kenny.
As Pickett exited with a concussion, giving way to, I'm a Mitch, I'm a lover, I'm a thrower, I'm a passer. As Trubisky was revived to skeet a touchdown pass to chase Clay Pigeonpole from shotgun.
In a moment of frustration, Tom Brady was caught yelling at his linemen saying, you're so much better than how you're playing, and I gave up my marriage to play with you, fat fucks. Not all quotes in this program have been checked for accuracy.
Steelers stunned the Bucs 20-18. Huh? Huh? Huh? To Cleveland.
As the Browns were waiting for their malign quarterback to return, it was the opponent who made things really sticky with a zappy ending. The Browns needed to be perfect offensively as Bailey sang, All my life been thrown, but it really don't matter no more.
And they wonder why we act this way. Zappy Roots gonna be okay.
Oh no, hell no. Y'all done up and punted.
All the Browns' nickelbacks couldn't stop England's rushing attack, saying, this is how you remind me. Kevin Stefanski is going to lose his mind watching this Zaprooter film.
Patriots 38, Browns 15. In Indianapolis, where Jax Indy, also known as Harrison Ford, getting a handjob was a game switching back and forth between the Jags and the Colts.
Matt Ryan looked like he had night vision goggles on as he connected with one night in Paris Campbell to help erase an 11 point deficit in the first half. Some are asking if we got hasty with our praise for the Jaguars, but Jermichael scored and ran for 57 yards to hold the criticism at bay.
Facing third and 13 with less than a minute left, the Colts dialed up the Gluck Gluck 9,000 with a touchdown pass to Alec Cooper Pierce, reminding everyone that the Jags do in fact still suck. And low-key, Matt Ryan is zaddy.
Colts 34, Jaguars 27. Whip! Whip! Whip! We go down to sunny Miami, where Perk Cousins was handing out deadly pills to his receivers, and everything was feeling alright for Minnesota Vicodin's fans.
Mike gets Icky Thump past the big white stripes twice for two scores, and two gritties, the famous dance invented by his opponent, Kirk Cousins, earlier this month in England. It was McDaniel against McConnell, and folks, I wish this game was a little more competitive as Teddy Vedder Bridgewater looked at Skylar Thompson and said, Coach, are you sure you can't find a better man? We're going to get to the rest of the fastest two minutes in a second.
But first, Pearl Jam. Minnesota 24, Miami 16.
Up to Hotlanta where George Kittlemey this asks the question, can the Falcons go 6-0 against the spread in a revenge game driven by his coach, Kyle Busch Shanahan? The chinless wonder. Handsome Hank? No.
Arthur Smith had other plans

on Sunday as the hopeless

wanderer Marcus Mumford and Sons

Mariota awoke his soul

and shoved the Niners back in their cave.

It's feeling good in Atlanta right now

but something's missing as

our head coach was seen singing

I will wait, I will wait

for you on a phone call

to free agent Will Compton after the game. Falcons 28, Niners 14.
Down in the Meadowlands, as these nuts aficionado Brian Dayball said, Hey Ravens, Lamar those my nuts in your mouth? Boy, you guys really miss Hollywood. Would you mind putting these nuts in your mouth, Brown? Daniel Balleater caught one on his chin as a giant sack was put on the Ravens' star

by Kayvon Thibodeau's My Nuts In Your Mouth?

Hey, likely.

How'd you like this dick, Isaiah?

The G-Man.

24.

The Ravens, 20.

Next up to Kansas City for a battle of AFC Titans

that came down to the wire with Josh Allen

finding Dawson Johnny Knox for a touchdown, making the Chiefs defense look like jackasses, but not so fast. Too much time on the clock for Patrick Mahomes until there wasn't.
Ending the game in an interception, we now go down to Patrick on the sideline to talk to us about the game. Patrick.
Holy tomatoes. That was a great finish to a great game.

I'll just tickle pink.

Anytime we can get on the field,

I have this game extended.

16 seconds.

That's time on the clock for me,

but sometimes you actually do give me too much time.

I get a little big for my britches on that one.

And I'll just look at the order.

We'll see you in January now.

Thank you.

Back to you, Boone.

Thank you, Patrick. Bills, 24.
Chiefs, 20. Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston down in Nola.
Such a fine sight to see. Joe and Joe Mar are smoking another cigar in their first game back in New Orleans Where's Jameis Winston? Goddamn, I miss him He's got his back blown out like he's hanging With Bill Clinton The Bengals beat the Saints 34-30 That sounds right 30- 30-26.
30-26. That also sounds right.
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We're watching the second half of Cowboys-Eagles right now. So we'll update everyone how that goes.
Eagles looked incredible first half. Lane Johnson out second half and Micah Parsons came alive.
So this could be a big shift in the NFC East. It's interesting what they were doing the first half.
They just weren't blocking Micah Parsons and then letting Micah like his, his hard charge that he would give open up space in the defense and then exploding the place that he used to be. It's an interesting technique to be like, we're not going to block your best player and somehow it's going to work.
Yeah. But maybe it's just the magic of the second quarter Philadelphia Eagles because if you could build the entire game out of the second quarter as the Eagles, you would be the best team to ever play football.
Best team of all time. We also had Cooper Rush come back to earth with the QB rating of 1.0 in the first half.

Huge first half for Dak Prescott.

We alluded to it last week that he was coming back down to earth.

So maybe not a QB controversy, but we will update it.

But let's get into the games.

Let's talk some football.

A great week six.

And of course, we have to start the center of the NFL universe is New York City. Let's go New York.
Let's start with Jets 27, Packers 10. Hashtag Billy was right.
Billy, what a nice reversal for you after Thursday's outburst. Yeah, definitely needed that.
Really bad. This is big for you.
This was huge. Monumental.
It's actually like the perfect way to wrap this up because if it had ended up the Jets getting blown out by the Packers, this is something a story that we would have kept going with you for weeks at a time. It would have been another week of hell for you.
By the way, hashtag be nice to Billy. Be nice to Billy.
Billy's our special boy. I don't think I was mean to him.
No, no, I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about people online.
Oh, yes. We don't have to talk about that.
Let's talk about the Jets. Okay, let's talk about the Jets.
You brought some notes. I like this.
Of course I'm going to bring notes. The Jets are one of the youngest teams in the league.
I think it was – I always bring notes to the team. Oh, yeah, I know.
That's what I said. Always.
So 60% of their players are, I think, under 24. Okay.
So they're a super young team. I mean, seeing what they did today, Salah calls them the baby Jets.
Okay. Nice.
And, like, that sounds weird, but that just shows that something like this is going to build. We call them Cessnas.
They're the C jets yeah the pjs yeah um but i mean just seeing all the young guys ball out was amazing and i know everyone's like oh zach wilson had like a a okay stat line yeah but the number one most importantly thing is he led the team to a win he ran the offense he has the keys and you know it was rainy day in Green Bay. I think it was like frozen rain and, you know, airing it out in there probably wouldn't have been the best thing.
We did what we had to do was we ran the ball. Brees Hall is a beast.
Michael Carter, beast. And then we were just gashing in the second half.
We're just gashing teams. The special teams, like that blocked first kick, but then the blocked punt to return for a touchdown.
It's just awesome. Those are the big vibe plays that get the multiplier up and get stuff going.
Yeah, they're playing hard. That's what you can say about the team.
You can't take anything away from this. They go on the road to Lambeau.
Like Billy said, it was raining. It was a nasty weather game.
And you play Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay and you beat the shit out of him. There's nothing else you can say.
That's just a good win for the Jets. I think the Jets are maybe kind of good.
It's a benchmark win for a young team where it's like you win. They're basically doing all the steps because they won the crazy game against the Browns, which was insane.
Then last week they go and they beat AFC East division rival for the first time in whatever it was, like two or three years. And then they go and they beat a team that has Super Bowl aspirations with a Hall of Fame quarterback and not only beat them, but beat the fuck out of them.
And yeah, the Jets, if you're a Jets fan, you should feel very happy. Maybe hashtag be nice to Big Cat and PFT because I was getting hammered.
I mean, I was getting hammered all day online, but Jets fans being like, see, told you so. Oh, yeah, today.
And I was like, okay, you guys deserve to gloat. You can't do the lows without the highs, and when the highs are high, you've got to fucking really just soak it in.
Yeah, you know what? I feel bad for Packers fans that they have to watch that football team. I think we can all agree on that.
Yes, facts. Imagine being a Packers fan.
That would be tough. As an owner, it's tough for me to support that team.
I think that when it comes down to the Jets building something, you're talking about like this is a win that you can build off. There are certain types of wins that you have that you mentioned a second ago.

The next one they have to do is they have to absolutely throttle an inferior opponent.

You have to beat somebody that you're supposed to.

Well, I was going to say beat the Patriots.

You have to beat somebody.

That's its own one.

Yeah.

You have to beat an opponent that you're supposed to beat

and just kick their ass all four quarters.

Yes.

We were one play away from a clowning. If they had scored on that final drive, it would have been a clowning.
Yeah, Jordan Love came in the game. Yeah, I mean, the Jets defense was incredible.
Quinton Williams was incredible. Sauce Gardner is insane.
It's very rare that you have a rookie cornerback be that good six games in and he's just shutting people down. There was a nice graphic on NBC Football Night in America that just said lost in the sauce, which is also a sign.
Like, Rivas Island was a thing. You need a saying, so having premier wide receivers get lost in the sauce is a good way to describe what he does to guys.
Sauce said that it felt like a home game. Yeah, he put on the cheese head i fucking love that i love that you like you're the jets you should not be this cocky and this is kind of what we talked about with billy last week you've had no reason to be cocky as the new york jets for a long time but to go into lambo beat the shit out of the packers and then afterwards to say yeah lambo feel kind of like it was felt like the metal lens really no difference i thought i love that attitude that he's got and he put on the cheese head.
And then who was it? Lazard knocked it off? Yeah, Brees Hall did a Lambo leap. Well, Brees Hall, too, that run that he made was so sick because it was not supposed to be that play.
So if you watch the play, he was supposed to pitch it back to Garrett Wilson. And he said afterwards, he's like, I just saw space.
So I was like, fuck it, I'm going for it.

So he like that.

It was like, what, a 35, 40 yard touchdown run.

If you watch it back, it's sick knowing that it was supposed to be him tossing it back.

And he was like, oh, I saw my seam and I just fucking took off.

And, you know, there was Brees Hall was was mocked by some as a pick.

Not not by us, except for when Jerry O'Connell picked him.

But I saw people like Jets fans going after pro football focus guys. That's all part of it.
Jets fans deserve to have that moment. Their team looks really good and really young, and they should enjoy the fuck out of this win because it was an absolute ass kick.
Yeah, you are well within your rights to reply to any of my tweets, Big Cat's tweets. They already know that.
Or to the part of my take tweets. They have.
You've had open season on us today. And honestly, we will wear this one.
Billy was right about it. A couple other things.
This was like a LaFleur family battle here because Mike LaFleur is the offensive coordinator on the Jets who then proceeded to clown his brother in Green Bay. That's kind of cool.
Also, I feel like this might be the start of a tipping point for Aaron Rodgers to start turning on Matt LaFleur as his head coach because after the game, he said they need to fix some things offensively simpler. Make them simpler.
Simplify some things. All of it.
A lot of of it is simple mistakes if we're making simple mistakes on complex plays to me we need to simplify some things he also said that he took big time ownership and he said he has to raise his game a tick well yeah a tick is what now he you'll note that he threw that raise my game a tick in after he said all this stuff about how bad the coaching was and the game plan is like oh shit i better toss in something about i guess maybe i could like wake up a couple minutes earlier in stretch order no the the packers are broken and like talk i i know that i've fallen for this trap before but they don't have any top end talent at wide receiver the entire like build of this team was supposed to be elite defense and be able to run the ball. Their defense is not elite yet.
Maybe it gets there. I don't know.
But it's clear. I'll say something nice about Aaron Rodgers.
He basically has to play perfect for them to have a chance to win. And sometimes he does.
It doesn't feel like any – if you're watching these games, it feels like none of his wide receivers are getting any type of like big time separation and he's got to make perfect passes to have those big explosive Aaron Rodgers type plays and yeah I I don't want to I don't want to get excited but I think the Packers are officially broken I don't think they're broken I think they're they're in the process they're bending they're bend but don't break that's that's two games the Giants and Giants and Jets where they're a touchdown favorite in both. And Aaron Rodgers doesn't lose these type of games at home, especially off of a loss.
It feels a little different. That was in England.
England's different. I'm just saying.
They probably don't sell Kratom over there. He's probably nervous going into the game.
Feels a little different. Well, quick thing.
Last thing say uh jet sacked him four times quinn williams with two sacks they pressured or hit him over 20 like i think it was 25 times yeah it's a lot they were all over him jet's defense is hitting that's a lot yeah the jet's defense good oh i guess aaron rogers playing the commanders next week so i'm sure get right game he'll now but there's been like, they've had multiple get right games. You know what I mean? Like, they beat, they barely beat what seems to be not a great Bucs team.
They barely beat a Brian Hoyer-started Billy Zappi-in-relief Patriots team, lost to the Giants, lost to the Jets. The only great win they have is they kicked the fuck out of the Bears.
And I even said at that moment they didn't embarrass us like they usually do. I actually, I'm changing my mind on next week.
Commander's coming off a mini bye. Dude.
They've got a little momentum. And guess what? Taylor Heineke's starting.
Yeah. No Carson Wentz.
He broke his finger. Which first reported on, pardon my take.
Hopefully he's okay. I mean, God forbid he has to stay out for the rest of the season, but Taylor Heineke is coming in and Taylor Heineke, if there's one

thing that he does is he comes off the bench and

he plays electric games and sometimes

steals one. Yes.
So I'm all

in on the commies. I'm already declaring

commies against the spread this week, no

matter what. I'm just saying like you see the

you see what the Packers have done so far

this year and it kind of you're

like, oh wait, that's weird because it

was, you know, week one

classic. Oh, they come out slow, then they play the Bears, and they're going to beat the Bears, and they always beat the Bears, and I know that's going to happen.
They do that. Then they beat the Bucs, and it was like, well, that was a slugfest.
Two teams, it could be the NFC Championship game. The Bucs kind of stink.
Yeah. And so, I don't know.
I think the Packers might be broken. And they have to play the Bills after they play the Commanders, which will be, I hope the Bills just shit pump them.
They'll probably kick their ass. They'll probably kick the shit.
And the Pats weren't even trying to beat them. Yeah, the Pats weren't even trying to beat them.
True. That's right.
Good point. That's a fact.
Good fact, Hank. They were just trying to get out there with a tie, right? That's a fact.
That's a fact. Absolute fact.
Good point. Okay, so.
Also, Aaron Rodgers looks stupid playing in the giant yellow helmet. Yep.
Every year that that happens, it's like him and Crosby, it always looks like they're that little Martian cartoon character. Yeah, they look like aliens, yeah.
Those jerseys and the Steelers jerseys are the worst throwbacks. The worst.
You don't like the bumblebees? No. No.
It's also like the. And they have good regular jerseys.
Right. I never understood.
That was kind of my point with the Bears wearing the orange helmets. Like there's old school classic franchises that should never – like why would you fix a Packers jersey or a Steelers jersey? Like they're just – they're good.
They've been around forever. Just do that.
Okay, so the Cowboys just scored. Jesus.
Max has completely let me down. This game is completely flipped.
What's wrong with the Eagles in the third quarter or fourth quarter now?

Now, this is bad vibes for your boy.

Undefegled?

Yeah, this would be bad timing.

We put the undefegled season-long 17-0 bet.

Ruined the Eagles and JMU in one weekend.

That sucks.

Sorry.

Yeah.

I'll take ownership of that.

Damn it.

I have lost every bet today. Because I was going to do a pizza party for the Eagles if they went 17-0.
Yeah, I was going to double it. Okay, so moving on to the next one.
So congrats to the Jets. This is definitely a moment in time where Jets fans should be reading and listening to everything on Monday because it's – I mean, that was an ass-kicking.
And it was so much – it's fun when you get an ass kicking and also you get to throw in the uh the block punt for for a touchdown yeah those are just ass kicking plays where it's like we own this team in all three phases and what did Salah say he's going to be jamming things down people he's got the receipts yeah we have throats are wide open oh we are open wide for Robert Salah just throw him in there so So next up like i said new york city is the the football capital of the world right now last time that the jets and giants combined for nine wins through week six was 2010 so it's been over a decade and the new york giants are five and one they beat the ravens 24 20 brian dable is far and away the coach of the year through six weeks, through six weeks, down 20-10 in the fourth quarter. They do one of their patented 75-yard drives where they eat some clock, get a big turnover, and the New York Giants.
Brian Dable is making a good team out of just a not great roster it's like string duct tape a code hanger and like crazy some sandpaper that he's put together and he's I think he is the best coach in the NFL right now I think without a doubt he's coach of the year his teams are fun to watch as we said his offense is fun to watch even though it's Daniel Jones running and I will say Saqu Saquon's insane. I'll say Daniel Jones, I owe you an apology, young man.
I wasn't really familiar with your game. Daniel Jones is playing pretty good right now.
He's doing everything they're asking him to do, and he plays hard, and his teammates like him. That's apparent.
That was never really the question. But under Dable, this team has become sneakily fun to watch and and good and i've yeah and very good like they're a very solid football team they're never going to beat themselves and they're not going to blow anyone out so i think there's people that are probably going to do the schedule game and say oh well they barely beat this team in the bit no that's kind of what the design is here they stick around long enough that they got to make one or two drives and they can win a game and it was i i was shocked because it felt like the ravens were in control the entire game and here's the here's the craziest part about the giants the five and one new york giants their upcoming schedule at jaguars at seahawks texans and lions at home they could easily be eight and two nine and one, those are – I don't know if they'll be favored in all those, but they will – we could be sitting here in December and being like, whoa, the Giants are – like, what's going on here? That's – they are surprising people, and Brian Dable has my vote for coach of the year.
He has mine too. He has my vote, yeah.
And again like proving even even daniel jones had the uh the classic daniel jones interception but then was called back for i think it was past interference or something where it was like you had the moment where you could in your head make the oh here comes daniel jones again classic daniel jones like nope like vindicated giants way yeah there's a lot of things you can say about the other teams that are like 5-1 in the league, or in the Eagles' case, undefeated. For now.
For now. You can call them exciting.
You can call them a wagon. You can call them a lot of different things.
With the Giants, you just call them a football team. Yeah.
They're just like top to bottom a football team. On defense, they're opportunistic.
They take advantage of a lot of stuff that the opposing offense gives offense gives them even though max what's his name uh max andrews the tight end on the uh ravens on the ravens mark andrews sorry mark andrews the tight end on the ravens he had that one play in the end zone where they threw the ball to him and he like batted it up in the air like he was a volleyball player yeah yeah trying to set it for somebody else they didn't pick that one off which they very easily could have but they're very opportunistic on defense um yeah no and kvon thibodeau was awesome like he this was his arrival moment this was the moment where it's like okay that's why you did a top 10 pick on him this is why the uh questions out of oregon like does he love football okay let's let's put, and he's a really fucking good football player, and he had the big plays down the stretch. And you need a couple guys like that for a roster that doesn't have anyone to have a couple top-end guys.
Also, Lamar Jackson, this was his first time losing to an NFC team. That's crazy.
12-0 until today. I had no idea.
That's a wild wild, that's a wild stat, but his performance in the second half, like he is not having a good season in the fourth quarter this year. His stats in the fourth quarter, he only has one passing touchdown.
He's got four interceptions, five turnovers and a passer rating of 56.3. So they've blown three double-digit leads.

Yeah, the Ravens, as a team, in the first three quarters, they're plus 62.

And in the fourth quarter, they're minus 42.

So they have problems.

We talked about creating a platoon of quarterbacks.

If you have a starter, a middle reliever, a setup man, and a closer.

I actually sat down and made a list when I was watching this

after the Ravens choked this one away.

And the Giants won, but the Ravens, again, this is another big fourth quarter blunder that they have. My ideal quarterback, if I could have a situation where I have a starter, a middle reliever, a setup man, and a closer, Lamar Jackson, first quarter.
Jalen Hurts, second quarter quarterback. Mitch, third quarter, coming off the bench.
And then Kyler Murray, fourth quarter. Yeah, Kyler Murray's got to be fourth quarter quarter and then if it goes to overtime tim tebow okay or or patch mahomes or mahomes either way you can do mahomes any quarter but yes i like that i like that lineup that's that's a solid line show me where it loses yeah no that's that's a good lineup but yeah the ravens the ravens are just weird they just have there's flashes of them being the Ravens of old, and then all their losses this year have been inexplicably bad.
Yeah. We're like, how did you lose that game? What happened there? Like that Dolphins loss.
Yeah. That was soul-crushing.
Right. And, again, credit to the Giants because the Giants – basically the Giants go into every game being like, let's just hang around long enough where they'll fuck up and we'll win this game.
And that's what they've done the last few games. Also, nice to see Kenyon Drake.
Forgot about him. Yeah, I can never.
He was awesome for the Ravens today. I can never figure out if Kenyon Drake is the most perfectly average NFL running back.
He must be because he keeps getting chances, and then he'll have games where he averages like 2.1 yards per carry. He'll have a streak of like four in a row of those and he'll have a game like today.

Yeah, no, Kenny and Drake is, anecdotally speaking, it has to be like the number one fantasy shared guy.

Like everyone has had Kenny and Drake on their team at one point.

Either drafted him or picked him up on waivers and been like, because you know when you do

that thing where you look at the total points and then you look at the game log, it's like,

oh yeah, that's because he had three touchdowns one week and every other week he scores

Thank you. Like, because you know when you do that thing where you look at the total points and then you look at the game log, it's like, oh, yeah, that's because he had three touchdowns one week and every other week he scores two points.
You're like, fuck it. What if he has a three-touchdown game? Kenyon Drake.
I think he's a guy that has been handcuffed more than any other running back. I feel like it's like, besides OJ, you draft a guy and then you get Kenyon Drake as your backup, and then he comes in and has like two games where he scores a total of three touchdowns then you forget about him right right and then you maybe you maybe keep him on your bench and he just you know doesn't do anything and then that one week he does something crazy like fuck yeah i forgot about starting yeah that was i think that was 2018 for me i think damn it kenyan drake was sitting there on my bench and i didn't start him but yeah nice game a nice game for him.
So shout out Kenny and Drake just still out there doing it. Yep.
Also, I did. I bought more part of my cheesesteaks and me and Billy.
I'm going to douse my cheesesteak in the hot sauce to make it up to Billy for doubting the jets. That'll be on PMTV.
If you want to watch that. Okay.
Nice. Nice.
Love it. Um, so that's New York football Kings Kings of the NFL right now.
How about it? Like we were Hank and I were've been living in New York for, what, six and a half years? They've never been good. Together, they've never been good.
I mean, the Giants went – the boat picture was kind of the end of it. But, yeah, it's like crazy to see both of the teams doing well at the same time for the first time in what feels like forever.
New York's a football town. Since we've moved here.
Yeah. 2010 was the last time they had this many wins through week six.
It's really a football town. That's all the city cares about right now.
Yep. And you got two coaches that are front page news.
If the Sopranos were still going on, they'd both make cameos. It'd be great.
You see that guy over there? That's the man genius. That's Salah.
That's Salah. After after we get our check he'll make you eat the receipt um okay next up another shocker of the day steelers 20 bucks 18 mitch trubisky the mitch trubisky revenge game not really it's kind of revenge against his own team yeah um and also he just owns the bucks because he had his best game ever as a pro uh when threw six touchdowns against the Bucs in like 2018, I want to say.
But the Steelers shocked the Bucs, win 20-18. I'll start with the Steelers.
Mike Tomlin, like he is so perfectly Mike Tomlin in that even when he's bad, when his team is bad, he will always get one of these games where it's like, oh, the Steelers are nine-point underdogs? Oh, okay, Mike Tomlin's going to find a way to get them going. Rah-rah, Mike Tomlin.
He's just, that's just what he does. Teams don't, his teams will never quit.
Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's crazy that the Steelers looked like the worst team in the NFL last week against the Bills. And then they show up today, and it's not like they look like world beaters, but they went toe-to-toe with all three starting cornerbacks out and Mika Fitzpatrick out.
And this is the first time the Steelers now have won a game without TJ Watt since he was drafted. Which is a wild thing to say.
They were 0-8 before this. I have no idea how they won this game, to be honest.
And it's not like it was a fluke the way that they want it because I think they were the better team today, but just judging on what we saw against the bills last week compared to the team that came out in the first half this week. Crazy.
It looked like night and day, like even before Mitch got in the game, when Kenny was playing, it still looked like they were the better team out there. Yeah.
And then Mitch came in, Mitch played fucking lights out against them. I think the Bucs might be bad.
Well, a lot of people, this is actually a great conversation that we're having because Tom Brady went to a wedding on Friday. Might have gotten drunk at Mr.
Kraft's wedding. Bill Belichick didn't go to that wedding.
Spent that time preparing. Patriots win.
Tom Brady loses. Wait.
Let's have it. First of all.
Robert Kraft getting married in the fall is a bullshit. I actually think it's crazy that Robert Kraft got married on a Friday, which is a big time.
That's a poor person move. But it's also like it's football season, dude.
Yeah. You only did it on a Friday.
Yeah. That's why you do it in the other eight months of the year.
I think a summer wedding. I think a Friday wedding during football season is the only appropriate way to go, probably.
Agreed, but still, that's shocking that he would get married in football season. Yeah.
There's a lot of months that, I mean, we hate them. They're the worst months, the months without football.
Yeah. That's when you have your weddings.
You won't even say those months. But what if it was a big plan by Kraft to get Tom Brady to come to his wedding, get him drunk?

Then he would lose.

Just a big revenge against Tom.

So, I mean, Tom Brady looked bad.

And it also, like, it looks like Tom Brady's powers were taken away because he also got stuffed on a, I think it was a third and one, not a fourth and one.

But he got stuffed on the, like, classic.

The Eagles just scored.

Thank God.

Now you're going that lead, Max. That was a man's drive right there.
It was a big boy football drive. They just ran the ball down their fucking throats right there.
Yes. He's Philly showing.
He's ready to fight somebody. Wait, what did you say, Max? Said.
Said. Yeah, that's like a famous Phillies fan video.
Yeah, he was just screaming that into his selfie video on Saturday. We're going to talk about playoff baseball, but Max just going, like, kind of borderline on tears and just screaming, said.
Said. That's what we did last week when we were watching football out in the gambling cave, when Max gets really excited about something, he almost gets sad.

I think he looks around because he's looking for somebody that's doubting him

so that he can fight them, and then he gets sad because there's no haters around.

Yeah, no, I liken it to like a waiter would come over and just be like,

sir, your Philly's showing.

Can you please tuck that back in?

Like this is a fine establishment here.

What are you going to say, Billy?

Is Tom Brady technically single now?

I wouldn't.

I mean, he's still married.

Weddings are great. Billy's showing.
Can you please tuck that back in? Like, this is a fine establishment here. What are you going to say, Billy? Is Tom Brady technically single now? I wouldn't.
I mean, he's still married. Wedding's a great place to meet chicks.
Yeah. He is married, not divorced officially.
What are you asking, Billy? Did he fuck? He might have been at the wedding, just like socializing. PFT, I tagged you in that tweet.
Did you see the kid on your corner? What does that have to do with that? No, I did see it. I've taken myself out of the Giselle bachelor, bachelorette thing.
I'm not interested in courting Giselle. Giselle would never work between us.
I don't think that we have anything in common. I would not be able to handle giving up football in the fall either.
Yes. So, Giselle, you can find that good dick somewhere else because it's not happening here.
Keep moving on, sweetie. By the way, the Eagles are going for two to go up on 11.
What the fuck, Max? This is where I do not agree with you because now I'm completely fucked if the Cowboys kick a field goal. Why are they going up two right now? They're up nine points.
They just converted a fourth down. Because the vibes are high? This is my only concern with the Eagles this year is Nick Sirianni's decision-making, getting on later in games.
They're blowing everybody out. Oh, the unsportsmanlike penalty was they're doing it on the conversion.
It's on the one. Okay.
That's probably not. That's not going to fucking do it.
No, that makes sense. That makes sense.
They got stuffed. Oh, my God.
And now I get fucked. And now I get fucked.
Why didn't they just do that? Fuck you, Max, you fucking piece of shit. Sorry, I didn't mean to say that this is this is what concerns me about sirianni though because the eagles haven't been in close games we don't know if nick sirianni is a dumb dumb when it comes down to the end of games or not he might be a great coach that gets his team ready to play but i don't know yeah i don't know okay so close game last week all right well just get the stop and i won.
That's a good point, Max. That's a great point.
That was unfortunate for me. Okay, that was a man's drive.
But back to the Steelers-Bucks. The Bucks might just suck.
It does feel like Gronk needs to come back and save the day. Tom Brady, like I said, got stuffed on a QB sneak, which you never, ever see.
I think it's the most effective play in football when he QB sneaks. The Bucs also, if you take out the Wild Chiefs Sunday night game where it was just back and forth and they were down early and they were throwing a million times, the Bucs have scored six touchdowns in the five other games.
That's not good. Six offensive touchdowns in the five other games.
They've yet to score a first quarter touchdown it feels like something's broken and i know it's kind of similar to the packers conversation like don't doubt tom brady he'll figure it out but it does it feels like he's more frustrated than he's ever been and they're and his team is more broken than they've ever been yeah he was barking at his offensive lineman this week yeah week. Yep.
Really, like, right up in their faces. You guys are better than this.
To, like, almost, yeah. You could say that when Tom Brady does it, it's different because he's Tom Brady.
Yeah. And he's allowed to, like, demand excellence out of people like that.
Yes. But it didn't seem like they were enjoying being screamed at at the time.
No. At all.
I don't think anybody in that situation would. Mm-mm.
But, yeah, I think the Bucs are, they're not good. They haven't played good.
good. That's just point blank.
Like, even when they win, they're winning ugly right now. And you could say, yeah, like the Packers, they're missing weapons.
Cam Brate is probably out with a concussion for at least a week or so. Shout out Mincy, our good friend, who in the gambling cave.
Cam Brate went down with a concussion and was like, do you think Gronk will come back? And Steven Che was just like, can we get him off the field on the stretcher first? I mean, that injury was bad. It was bad.
In that when he went down, he seemed like he was okay at first, like moving his arms and legs. And then people started sending out tweets being like, something bad just developed in the course of his injury when he was down in the field.
They double injury music to him. Yeah, he got double.
That was bad. So they went to commercial with the injury music, came back, saw that the stretcher was coming out, then went back to the commercial with injury music.
You get double injury musiced, it's bad. You got to have a slower version of the injury music for the second time.
Yeah. Like injury music chopped and screwed.
Yeah. Put it on half speed.
Not good. It wasn't good.
I think he's okay now but it was uh yeah it was it was kind of honestly like scary because whenever they come back from the break and then there's more people on the field than there were before that's when you know that it's bad yes they're like trainers that that normally don't come off the sidelines at all got brought out there yes but yeah i bet on the football aspect the bucks aren't very good right now. No, they're broke.
I'm just saying it. They're like something is wrong, and you can just see it.
Like their offense, it feels like outside of Leonard Fournette, who gets the dump-offs and he runs really hard, it feels like they have no ability to stretch the field. It feels like there's no consistency on third down plays.

It feels like everyone's very covered.

They've now lost two games not being able to convert a two-point conversion at the end of the game, which is crazy for a Tom Brady offense

to not be able to get a two-point conversion.

You should have a play.

Right.

So did Antonio Brown tweet anything out over the course of this game?

I feel like he would have some takes, but I'm blocked by him.

He was probably still hungover from Robert Kraft's wedding.

Yeah, he was probably there.

Yeah, he probably was the band.

Yeah.

He probably showed up in his mind he was the band.

Yeah, pit to the palace.

Yes, yes, he was doing that for sure.

But yeah, it's...

I have his last tweet from two hours ago.

Okay.

Put that shit on.

Now days off.

Now days off.

Now days off.

I like that.

Hashtag now days off. I do like now days nowadays off i do have anything to say about about the game remember three hours ago remember i'm always bad remember i'm always bad balls attitude direction all right i like that jake can you put a reminder for us to remember that antonio brown's always bad balls attitude direction and then I got one more.
It's AB, not ABC. ABC's for kids.
I don't really care. Okay, yeah.
I got it. Sure.
Yeah. No, I don't either, but I like it.
I think Antonio Brown just like pops an Adderall, opens up Photoshop, and he's like, how can I get my name in the news this Sunday? Yeah, let's get after it. I kind of like his tweets.
These are interesting. Yeah, it is very interesting to watch.
I'm pissed off that he blocked me. Can you ask him to unblock me? Yes.
I'll ask right now. Who do the Bucs? I want to take a quick look because I feel like the Bucs and the Packers are actually very similar in that we just keep saying, well, there's a get right game coming.
And this week was the get right game for both of them. Well, they got the Panthers next week.
Okay. So that is the get-right game.
That's the official get-right game. Okay, well, yeah.
I guess that would be the only thing that you could say pro-Bucs is that outside of the Falcons, who are very frisky and fun and will get to them, it does feel like they'll win the South no matter what. You know what I mean? Probably, yeah.
So, like, they have a little bit more, unlike the Packers, who have the Vikings who are playing good football, the Bucs do have a little bit more of a room for error where if you had to put your life on the line right now, you'd say the Bucs are going to be in the playoffs, right? Yeah, but I'm actually thinking about putting a future on the Falcons to win that division. Ooh, okay.
I like the Falcons. They're frisky fun.
I think they're better than frisky. No, they're frisky fun.
Okay. Yeah.
That's a combo. What about combo play? Is that better

or worse than being legit? Uh, it's a step below legit. Okay.
So, uh, you go frisky. Well, you can

go fun. And then when you're frisky, you're starting to get good.
And then when you're

frisky and fun, it's like, Whoa, what's going on here? We got to start paying attention to this

in my look ahead. I've got the Falcons as a don't look now team yep yep that's yeah they they could they could be somewhere in a few weeks you'd be like whoa where'd this come from yeah don't look now they're smith um okay before we get to the next game let's do a quick word from our sponsor game time game time we're talking about it all the time.
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Okay. Speaking of Louisiana.
Bengals, Saints. Bengals win 30-26.
Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow just love the Superdome they love the dome, home cooking they love the dome so much they had, so Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase have played two games in the Superdome, in college and NFL Joe Burrow's 763 yards, 8 touchdowns Jamar Chase, 353 yards 4 touchdowns, so they just love the dome, it was cool Joe Burrow 763 yards eight touchdowns Jamar Chase 353 yards four touchdowns so they just love the dome it was cool Joe Burrow came out uh in the hallway before was wearing Jamar Chase's national championship jersey they basically that was we want to talk about get right games that felt like what the Bengals looked like last year not only with Joe Burrow finding Jamar Chase for the big plays, the explosive plays, but also the Bengals getting kind of exposed in the first half and in the second half changing their entire defense and shutting it down. Yeah.
That was what they did last year down the stretch. This actually might be the official end of the Bengals Super Bowl hangover this week.
I feel like New Orleans is their get right that marked the end of it because now they get to bank some wins probably. And when you look ahead, I love to do this, is just count wins and losses and I'll usually be completely wrong about them.
But I feel like going in, not until December 4th, they play the Chiefs. That's going to be their next hard game that they have.
And I feel like the Bengals could probably put five or six wins in their column after that yep or before they get to that point so this was this was big for them and i do think that there's something about just being in a room that you like yeah you've had success in that naturally you play like it it was so easy when they he threw that ball to jamar chase and jamar like just turned around shrugged a guy off and then easily beat a guy to the outside. That was a man who was comfortable in the room that he was in.
Yeah, and it was – I mean, I think obviously Saints fans are not conflicted. They want to win, but it's got to be – a lot of those Saints fans or LSU fans are like, oh, this looks familiar.
Not as fun having it happen to us instead of for us. But, yeah, it did feel like the Bengals, like for the first time this year, like the and they didn't win convincingly and that's kind of what they did last year down the stretch you know what I mean like having those games where first half they don't look great they figure some shit out and Joe Burrow hits Jamar Chase and it all works out and uh yeah it Andy Dalton revenge game falls flat thought thought it was gonna happen for the Saints were just running the ball down their throat for a while there, including my new favorite name in the NFL.
I don't know if you saw this guy scored a touchdown. Rasheed Shahid.
Yeah. Awesome name.
Hall of Fame name from Weber State. Undrafted.
Rasheed Shahid. He had the long run, right? He had the, I think it was a jet sweep or something where he, yeah, it was basically like, wait, is anyone going to tackle him? No, no one's going to tackle him.
Oh, his name's Rashid Shameed? It kind of sucks watching the Saints without Jameis. Yeah.
If you're going to give me a game with no Jameis, just give me a Taysom Hill game. Because at least those can be fun.
Those are exciting. It's something different going on.
Now, just so I want to make sure you're on the record. Andy Dalall nice guy and you don't very nice guy in fact i think he's going to make a fantastic nine and eight quarterback yeah the indianapolis colts next year nice guy but right now i don't want to see him playing for the saints right he's a andy dalton's a good backup but i don't want to see more than two weeks of andy dalton in a saints uniform it's a bummer and it was nice though having like the whole revenge game factor um because you you know it did feel like Andy had a little pep in his step to start and then he realized that he's Andy Dalton and he's also old and yeah the Bengals like just waited for the Saints to not be able to run the ball and it's just like okay now the game's changed.
So we talked a couple weeks ago about Kamara and the pending litigation that he's got going on in Las Vegas from the Pro Bowl last year. I did not realize this, but he is currently being sued for $10 million for the assault in the nightclub.
I don't know what happened. I want to preface all of this by saying I have no idea what happened or why he got arrested or what happened between him and the other guy.
I just think that if you're suing somebody for $10 million, you're probably just trying to get a paycheck out of them. You're probably trying to get $1 million.
Yeah. You're in a settlement out of court.
I don't think that you actually have $10 million worth of damages. Right.
If you're the type of person that would file a $10 million lawsuit, my guess is you probably don't have $10 million in the bank right now. Yeah.
I think the lawyer just says to you, okay, here's what we could do. We could either sue for exactly how much the damages were, which are like, I don't know, let's say $50,000.

And he'll probably pay it right away.

Or we can sue for $10 million, put it in the press, and hope he gets scared and just gives you like half a million.

Yeah.

And that's how, that's lawyering 101.

It's cool.

Everyone who's thinking about being a lawyer, oh my God, the Eagles just fumbled.

That's not good.

Max?

They're going to blow this cover.

You know what? That's lawyering 101. Everyone who's thinking about being a lawyer, oh my God, the Eagles just fumbled.
That's not good. Max? They're going to blow this cover.
They're going to blow this cover. They're going to blow this cover.
They got fucking, they started playing chicken shit football and they're going to blow this cover. I got him at seven.
What do you have, Matt? I have him at six. They got the ball.
So you're looking at maybe a push. He's nervous.
I'm nervous because of you. Yes.
That's why I'm nervous. Yes.
I don't even have the cover. Credit to me for even being in this seat right now.
I got my guts ripped out today in the NFL, and I'm not even being a Debbie Downer about it. I'm trying to talk about games, get pumped up, because I love football.
But I got my guts ripped out, just strewn about, like, fucking the most horrific. Think about Game of Thrones.
The crab feeder. The crab feeder, Red Wedding, the C-section in episode one of this new show.
Yeah. I got everything.
That's what my day was, and I'm sitting here with a smile on my face. I'm the meme with the smile and then the cry behind.
But I'm here trying to fucking talk football. So I need the Eagles to cover this game, Max.
That's where we're at. That's where we're at as a podcast.
I, too, very much would like the Eagles to cover. But you don't need it.
I don't think you care about covering. I think you care about winning.
I know, but if I'm you needing it, I need it. I need it.
Because it's my fault. Hey, what do you have? The Cowboys money line or something? I was going to say, Max doesn't care if they cover or not.
No, he does not care. If they don't cover and they win, he's walking out of here with a smile on his face and he's going to go to sleep.
Just hit the pillow and go right to sleep. He's texting all his fucking Philly scumbag friends being like, birds, birds, birds, right as the Cowboys score a touchdown to backdoor cover.
What was the word you kept screaming? Said! Said! Said! That's a Phillies thing. I don't know.
It's this old Phillies news video. This one guy after a Phillies playoff game, it just gets really excited and then he says said.
I've never watched the video probably like 20 times because I've never seen someone where I'm like, is he crying or is he happy? Like you're just. That's just emotion.
I know, your emotion. It's as raw as it gets.
Did he just cut a thing of onions? Yeah, like I couldn't like. Did someone die? That's what I'm talking about.
It's a bird. Yeah.
It's a fucking bird. Yeah.
It's a fucking birds. I couldn't turn away.

It was raw.

And I told you before.

Did I not tell you?

On Thursday, I was like, because you're like, I'm going to the game on Saturday.

I was like, get video.

Feel free to tweet for the part of my take account because that's raw sports emotion that we want.

We love that shit.

What were you going to say, Hank?

Oh, you were turning off.

Okay.

Bengals, Saints.

Yeah.

Bengals feel like they might be back. I miss Jameis miss Jameis Andy Dalton nice guy Bengals might be back give me Taysom Hill give us Taysom Hill give us way more Taysom Hill and we can we can we can live with that uh okay next up Henry yes uh okay so PFT Hank is 100% in on bailey zappy and has forgotten who mac jones of course of course he is patriots 38 browns 15 um hank yes bailey zappy like are we thinking you can get a second and third for mac jones what are you thinking listen i don't want to you guys keep trying to turn this into a me versus Mac Jones.
This has nothing to do with Mac Jones. It has nothing to do with him.
Hank, it was a simple question that Big Kid asked you. How much do you think you could get in a trade for Mac Jones? I don't know how the trade market works.
I don't care how the trade market works. I'm focused on what we have and the quarterback that we have as our starter.
What do you think would be a fair price? A fair price for Mac Jones. No, you have to say Zappy.
Zappy. You can't say Zap.
The Zapster. No, he's Bailey Zappy.
Bailey Zappy. That's the fun part.
The E. It rhymes with happy.
Yeah. I don't know what we get from that.
I don't know how trades work. Oh, so you're considering it? No, I'm not.
I'm not the junior. If I were to say, like, okay, we'll give you, like, two second rounders.
I would say we should keep Mac Jones because we're not sure. It's still early.
Okay, how about two second rounders for Bailey Zappi? No. That answered that.
What about a first rounder for Bailey Zappi? No, absolutely not. Bailey Zapp is.
Yeah, so you are definitely Bailey Zappi won Mack Jones' distant second right now.

It is fun that Bailey Zappi is good

because it's like confirms what he did at Western Kentucky

where everyone's like, oh, who's this fucking guy?

Bailey Zappi, weird name.

He is, he's good.

Yeah.

He gets the ball out.

I called this a long time ago.

He's just got zip on the ball. He does.
When did you call this a long time ago? No, I called it. That's what Billy was about to say.
He's looking around like, oh, he said this was a dozen years ago. I said there was going to be quarterback controversy in the Patriots like halfway through the season.
I said Zappi was going to start at some point. Yeah.
Billy Zappi's good. He's a fun quarterback.
He's very fun. The thing is I could never imagine anyone even trading for Mac Jones Because think about it He had Saban in Bama and he had Belichick in New England Have we ever seen Mac Jones stand on his own? Well he got recruited to Alabama And then drafted by the Patriots for a reason Those coaches saw the talent in him And took him on their team because they wanted him Yeah but, but Zappi was in Western Kentucky standing on his own, putting up points, making plays.
What's so he got drafted? Mac Jones got drafted. Mac Jones is a very glorified game manager that gets hidden in the system a lot.
People that turn this against Mac Jones, I have nothing against Mac Jones. I think Mac Jones is a great quarterback.
I think if he could lead a team in the playoffs, he did lead a team to the playoffs last year. There's nothing wrong with Mac Jones.
Bailey Zappi just throws the ball harder. He's a sexier quarterback.
I enjoy watching him more. That is not a knock on Mac Jones in any way, shape, or form.
I hate that people are like, you just threw Mac Jones to the trash. It's like, no, he got hurt, which was unfortunateappi is very fun to let me ask you this how much better do you think those alabama teams would have been if they had bailey zappi wow yeah a lot better well okay so this is it's it's fun because you obviously have probably like the most uh historically relevant uh most famous backup coming in for a starter

with Drew Bledsoe and Tom Brady.

So everyone's making that thought like,

if there's one guy who'll do it, it's Belichick, right?

And on top of it, I think what you need to do, Hank,

and we see this all the time in the NFL,

Cooper Rush is a similar thing, Jacoby Brissett in this game,

you just got to ride it until maybe it doesn't work anymore.

Yeah.

And if it keeps working, then he just maybe is Tom Brady. But if, like, that's what you need to answer is just, like, we're riding the hot hand for a little bit.
People forget in that 2001 season, Brady got hurt in the AFC Championship game. Drew Bledsoe won him the game.
So you're going to need Mac Jones to win you the AFC Championship game. Yeah.
Is what you're saying. Yeah.
And also in this comparison, Mac Jones is as good as Drew Bledsoe is. Right.
I'm not

making those comparisons. What's funny...
I'm just

enjoying the product that the Patriots put on

the field. But it's a natural...
I'm a big fan

of Bailey Zappi. I love what he's doing out there.

I am a big fan of Mac Jones.

I think he's a perfectly good quarterback

that can, again, you guys

are... Sounds like you're a big fan of him.
I feel bad for you

guys. You don't understand what it's like to have a

QB lead a team to the playoffs. Mac Jones went to the playoffs last year.
Can I do a blind test? Sure. Blind resume test? QB won.
64 for 97, 786 yards, two TDs, five interceptions, one and two as a starter. QB two.
51 for 70, 588 yards, four touchdowns, one interception, 2-0 as a starter.

I would take the guy that's going to turn into Tom Brady.

QB2.

That's Bailey Zapp.

It's like a double-edged sword because you've got the expectation.

I don't think it's a debate either.

It's already set there.

You've got the precedent that a late-drafted quarterback can become the guy of the future.

You know that.

But at the same time, you can't let the standard be Tom Brady. You know? False.
That's a loser mentality. If he's just a very good quarterback, then that's fine.
Right? We did it once. We can do it again.
You know what's going to suck? Here's what's going to suck. You probably can.
He's going to become Tom Brady, and then Belichick's going to coach for another 20 years. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
And just win soul-crushing football games, smile one time a year, and just be dominating my mind on television. Yeah.
That is exactly what Billy Zappi's going to do. Other highlight of this game was the Patriots recovered a fumble on a punt.
Yes. And then the guy that recovered the fumble, I believe he was a rookie, tried to give the ball to ball to belichick yeah and belichick just looked at him brennan disgusted look i've ever seen and it was like get the fuck out of my yeah and then a diva uh another coach just walked over and like escorted him out like sir like please please do not you know tap tap the glass here at the aquarium let bill belichick be by himself it was very funny funny because it was obviously Brennan Schooler trying to get in his good...
Like a kid giving an apple to a teacher. He's like, here you go.
Thanks, coach. Just want to let you know we appreciate everything you're doing.
And the guy's like, don't talk to Bill. Yeah, it was similar to my son showing me a rock that he found.
I'm like, okay, cool. Listen, Bill knows you as the second number 41 on the team.
Right.

Please don't give this ball to him.

This is going to be... Okay, so we're watching it.

The Eagles are now...

It's third and 10.

Although I do love Brendan Schooler's entire vibe.

Yes.

Well, no, you know what?

He is the fucking Bailey's app.

He's going to be Tom Brady.

Brendan Schooler's going to be...

What's his name?

Slater.

Like, this guy's...

I feel like he's made like three or four plays already on special teams this year.

This is just...

Belichick is just doing it all over again. He's a good-looking guy.
It's crazy. It's crazy.
Mack Jones is supposed to return maybe for the Jets game in two weeks. But if he loses that game, he's done.
I mean, Bailey Zappi's going to kill the Bears. I would be surprised.
I would be surprised if – unless Bailey Zappi puts up an absolute stinker next week, I would be surprised if they take him out as starter. I don't think you can.
No. Well, he's playing the Bears next week.
That's what I'm saying. So unless by some miracle – That actually is a great litmus test.
If Bailey Zappi loses to the Bears, cut him. Like that's – I'm being honest.
The nicest thing nicest thing though is like you've got the last image

of Mac Jones. Should we pause? Having him what? They're going to kick a 59 yarder to

try to backdoor cover. This is crazy.
I mean this is crazy. This is all happening right

now. 59 yards? 59 yarder to try to backdoor cover.
This is bullshit. This is bullshit.

Good hold. It is wide right.
Winner boys. By two feet.
E-I-G-L-E-S. Solid Eagles.
Dallas does have two timeouts. That was a fun little.
You got to watch us watch the end of the game. Great job, Jake.
No, Jake didn't. Jake, the game's not over.
Yeah, I said they do have two timeouts. I guess that's true.
I don't think that's enough time. I don't think that's enough time.
I think they can kneel, right? I don't know how clocks work. No, because two timeouts figure it cuts down like a minute and like 40 seconds.
Yeah, they might. What if they take an intentional safety? No, no, no, no.
Stop. They're at the 50-yard line.
Stop. Stop it.
This is how bad this day has gone. Dude, what if they take an intentional safety? I have to push that thought down because you can't do that right now i could i could see syriani doing it this is really like you're just seeing a tortured hurts is very fast because he's going to run backwards because he has to run no but they have to run right off the clock they wouldn't do it right away they would not do it right away he's going to probably just run it right in the line okay go down easy cool all right let's talk about uh we do have an update antonio brown followed me back on twitter oh what the fuck he follows jake cfc unblocked him dm him right now say say mr brown wait i'm looking at who's following say oh he followed both of you antonio brown followed me i know right now get blocked right now all right yes yes okay i.
What should I say? I just tried to get you out of jail, and I got you. Yeah, but now this is kind of fun.
Now you're trying to go back in? It would be a rush. Oh, my God.
What should I say? I can't believe it worked. Wow.
What's up, little dick? He follows you, too, big guy. Did he already follow you? I don't know.
Hey, AB. He followed both of you.
No, big head. I'm tweeting him right now.
Oh, I'm just DMing him. Okay.
Hey, I DM him all the time on Instagram. He's probably my most frequently DM person.
Never writes back. Hey, AB84.
Why do you unblock me, you piece of shit? Oh, my. He's going to block me now, too.
I said, hello, Mr. Brown.
When you say bad and you're referring to your balls, just how big are they? So let's see how that was. Was that a tweet or a DM? That was a DM.
You know what? I actually say pics or it didn't happen. Thanks for unblocking me.
What if he sends me his balls? That would be insane. Oh fuck.
Wow, I can't believe it worked. That was like 15 minutes that was incredible i've been dude i've been hunting that unblock for a while no i mean i tweeted i tweeted him to get pft out and yeah it worked that just happened yeah did you check before you tweet at him what so like between did you check if he followed them before you tweeted at him? I followed him 15 minutes ago, and he followed me back five minutes ago.
Okay. Hey, AB, thanks for unblocking me.
I bet you don't have the balls to block me again. How's that sound? That's nice.
Bitch. That sounds great.
Bitch. That sounds great.
All right. Okay, wait.
What were we talking about? We went from watching a field goal get missed.

I forget.

To DMing Antonio Brown back to Brown's Patriots.

We're talking about Belichick.

Yeah, he's just doing it again.

He's just doing it again.

Bill Belichick's never going to die.

He's doing it with all of them.

He's going to get decapitated like Ted Williams,

and his frozen head is going to be like attached to Steve Belichick's

body and he's going to continue coaching

for the next hundred years. Yeah.

And probably like eight more Super

Bowls. He's going to have to buy new boats

every year. It's

how confident are you feeling?

Very confident.

I think I mean the Dolphins

have already fallen off. The Jets are riding high.

I'm excited for two weeks from now.

Oh you're just okay. hurts, but it's fair.
But it hurts. Yeah.
I mean, I'm not going to pull a Billy, but you guys are a sad, disgusting franchise. I feel bad for you guys.
The worst part is I love Monday night games because I can just sit on my couch and do nothing, and I plan on doing that, but this one will just especially ruin it.'m just gonna sit on my couch and just have my monday night yeah but like you'll have a first quarter driver stop and you can be like the bears are back oh jesus christ i don't know you know what i actually i'm gonna do is i if the page just go up seven nothing i might just i might just tweet the hat yeah the hat tweak and just go to bed that actually be nice that actually is what i'm i'm gonna do i think uh peter schrager got hacked and it was like i'm signing macbooks and sending them out to the first six followers or something i'm gonna use that one so when they go down seven nothing i'll do that and i'll just go to bed and it'll be that it'll be nice and i'll watch every second of it and be like the bears are back in my head we should go to the game on the 30th we should bet a cheesesteesteak. Yeah.
Ooh. Yeah.
I noticed you didn't say a shot of hot sauce, Hank. Fuck it.
I'll do the whole bottle. I'm not scared of hot sauce.
You're going to douse it? I love hot sauce. We got to make this a secret menu item.
Get it Billy style. Yeah.
Yeah. I was a bitch the other day.
I'm sorry. I just had a really bad experience with hot sauce.
Billy, it's fine. You don't have to say anything.
You're just going to get your... Tune into PMTV to see...
It went on for another 45 minutes in the studio. Can I just give you some quick advice here, Billy? The more you talk about it, the more we're going to want to make fun of you for it, and then you're going to get mad again, and then the whole thing is going to happen again.
So I'm just going to stop you right now in an effort to help you. Right.
Because every time we re-bring it up, then we all, like, me, Hank, and PFT make jokes. And then you get mad again because I'd be like, yeah, remember when you walked away and, like, you were a pussy? And you're like, no, I wasn't.
And then you get mad. It's like, dude, I'm joking.
And, like, you've never actually been in a real bar fight like, you know, me and Big Cat have. Right.
And hot sauce has just completely dominated your life. Like, you wouldn't eat that shit.
And then you get mad. You guys get mad.
You guys. Right.
You're getting mad right now. You're getting mad right now.
You guys aren't being, you know, PTSD is a real thing, and you guys aren't being thoughtful or care about what Billy's gone through in his life. No, Billy is a soldier, so he probably does have PTSD.
For sure. See, you're getting.
Don't let the little jokes get to you here. You did go through a traumatic experience, fact or fiction.

Right.

You ate one hot wing.

No, no, no, one bite.

It was one bite.

It was one bite.

You sniffed a hot wing. You guys can't fight.

You can't fight?

Ignore them.

He's kidding.

Billy, what about...

I don't think you can fight because somebody DM'd me a video not that long ago of something you did. From Italy? Was he rolling? It was a different one.
Chill, chill. It was a different one.
Was it a rolling video? No, it wasn't. I don't think it was rolling.
He's about to admit to a crime. In his head, he just realized, oh, shit.
They're fucked with me. Okay.
They might not actually have a video, but you almost admitted to a crime. Yeah.
Yes. Tune into PMTV.
But, Billy, you didn't need to apologize. So apology not accepted officially from me because you didn't need to apologize for anything.
Okay? Thank you. Pussy.
You just accepted my non-acceptance of apology? I'm just kidding. I'm kidding again.
I'm kidding again. That's a sick hat.
Thank you, Billy. I'm kidding again.
That's a sick hat. I love you, Billy.
And the people who are being mean to Billy, shut the fuck up. You guys are actually the biggest pussies.
That's a fact. It was kind of bad podcast.
Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.
It was actually, you know what, Billy? We have been putting on a bad podcasting clinic for the last 20 minutes. And guess what? And guess what? It was also bad.
Yeah, for our entire history of this show is bad podcasting if you actually break it down. We break all the rules.
But here's where it was good podcasting and good content. The Jets winning today had everyone tweeting at me and PFT and wanting to listen to this show because they're like, what are they going to say to Billy? What is Billy going to say? I had a list.
That's storylines, baby. That's content making.
I did have a list of things I was going to say if it got like argumentative. Wait, tell us.
You thought we were going to. I don't know.
I mean, the Jets killed the Packers. I didn't know how I was going to go.
You are fat. Wait, what did you.
You are a fucking bum. Wait, what did you think we were going to do? They killed him.
I don't know. There's just a couple statistics.

I didn't want to bring them out.

Give us one.

Bring them out. Bring them out.

It's hard to yell.

They're just comparing franchises.

I don't know.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Nice.

Nice.

Give us one.

No.

Come on.

No, you got it.

You got it.

You got it.

We've all been nice to each other.

I only brought this.

Give me a list.

I'll read it.

Billy had the Costanza jerk store line ready to go two days later, four days later, whatever it is. Give us one.
What are you writing down? Just in the past seven years, the Bears and the Jets had the same amount of wins against the Packers. Oh, okay.
Oh my God. That's actually bad.
That's actually a great stat. The Jets beat the Packers, whatever it was, four years ago? I think it was in the past seven years.
Right. So the Packers have how many wins the Jets have against the Packers? Let me check that.
Okay. I just saw it.
Preachers just won. I think they have the same amount.
Wait, hang on. I know we beat them.
I think it's just one. We just basically, every few years, we injure Aaron Rodgers and beat them.
Yeah, 2014 and 2018 was a win for... Two wins.
Two wins. 2014.
Yeah, 2014 and 18 for the Jets. Right.
So that's three. No.
Counting today. 24 and...
We definitely beat them in 2018. No, 2022.
This is now really bad podcasting. Yeah.
I'm reading it from the Pack. Ever since that Cowboys field goal, it's been...
The Bears beat them in 2018. We beat them in 2018.
We beat them in 2015 on Brett Favre's retirement night.

We're just chatting.

We're just having a chat.

Did Antonio Brown hit it?

I'm going to let you know.

It looks like the Jets have only won once against Green Bay in the past seven years.

Now I'm pissed that you didn't bring these up because that was just a false fact.

Wait one second.

People have been tweeting this at me all day. We got to see the next stat.
Next stat. Billy, I know the Bears beat the Packers in 2018, and I know that they beat them on far retirement night on Thanksgiving 2015.
The Jets beat the Packers yesterday, and then this is their first win since 06. Okay, so that was just not correct.
2018, overtime.

2014, 31-24.

2010, 9-0.

Okay, so that's just not a correct stat.

Close, though.

I've been getting this all day.

What else did you have, Billy?

Who sent it to you?

Just people like Jets fans?

Yeah.

Okay.

What else have they sent you?

I didn't vet it because I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

Okay, smart. Yeah, that's a good excuse for not checking a fact.
I mean, that's a really easy fact to check. I didn't check it because I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
Your own. Your own feelings.
Billy didn't check a fact because he was thinking about us.

Oh, man.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Okay.

Back to Patriots. Patriots are back.

Patriots are back.

Patriots are back.

Patriots are back.

Patriots are back.

All right.

What I wanted to say was, yeah, Patriots look good.

Browns, I feel like I circled a few different coaches this week.

Stefanski is a circled coach where it's like, are things maybe not great now because his defense is terrible and his offense makes no sense anymore because he has Jacoby Brissett they're waiting for Deshaun Watson they have one of the best run games and he seems to like go away from it all the time they had they were down a lot in the second half but it was a what was it at halftimeftime? I think it was like a six-point game or something, and it was an 11-point game in the third quarter. They ran 34 passes to five runs in the second half.
They just basically were like, Jacoby Brissett, we know your limitations as a quarterback. Let's have you try to win this game.
It was 10-6 at halftime. Yeah.
And then Jacoby Brissett happened in the second half. They're whispering over there trying to figure out how many times the Jets – Six years he would be right.
Six years. Okay.
So that's – So it's one. It's one win.
One win. One win.
One win. You can kind of count the year after it happened.
I don't know what that means. Okay.
But yeah. All right.
It's like – It's like, you know, is it next Sunday or this Sunday? It's like, oh, there was no year zero. Right.
That's right. Got it.
Like bodybuilding.com. Exactly.
How many days are there in a week? Okay.

So that's right.

Got it.

Sort of, but not really.

Stefanski is one of those coaches where I always look at Stefanski as being like, you made the Browns good.

Right.

So, like, coach for life.

Well, they got rid of Baker.

But they got rid of Baker, and I think Browns fans are sick of his shit right now.

Yeah.

Because he has what could be a winning formula and a good roster.

And they don't run the ball when they need to.

He hasn't really done anything with it.

But from an outsider, I know Browns fans will

hate me for saying this, but from an outsider,

it's like, dude,

you should love this guy. I know, but

he won you a playoff

game at Pittsburgh,

right? At the Steelers. You should build

a statue for him. But I also understand the frustration

where it's like, he's

proven himself to be not that great of an in-game head coach recently. And it's also like you have Deshaun Watson coming in halfway through this year.
Next year, you could maybe do like a full fresh start with Deshaun Watson. Yeah, yeah, right.
It was the moment that I was just, because we had the game on, and I was like, what the fuck is Kevin Stefanski doing? It was the end of the first half. They in they were on the 29 yard line it was second in one they had I think all three timeouts or two timeouts and he passed the ball twice instead of running for one yard with Kareem Hunt or Nick Chubb like there was 50 seconds left or wherever he called run up run to get a first down take a couple shots in the end zone instead they passed twice didn't get it had to kick a field goal.
Like, what's going on here? So, I don't know. I just circled him.
He's one of the head coaches I've circled. Another one out west is going to be fun to talk about later on in the show.
I think I know who you're talking about. Yep.
So, one other thing I thought was kind of funny after the game, Jason McCourty, did you see his tweet? No. He tweeted out that he goes, the type of brother I have.
Jason McCourty obviously used to play in the NFL for the Browns and the Patriots. Devin, his twin brother, still on the Patriots.
Jason tweets out, the type of brother I have, he FaceTimes me after his win in Cleveland from the locker room so I could see what it's like to win a game in Cleveland. One hell of a guy he is.
Because he was 0-16 on those Browns. Funny funny story when we were at Rutgers the other weekend I'm on the sidelines I see Jason McCourty I go up to him like hey man we loved having you on the show gotta get you back on uh also you've been killing on TV I love watching you you're doing great and he was like excuse me I was like yeah man I just I'm really impressed with how you've transitioned to doing media stuff and, you think I'm J-Mac? And I was so fucking embarrassed.
I'm sure it happens all the time. You should have just kept with TV.
But then I go, yeah, you could be good on TV, too. You should come and part my take.
And he was like, okay, we'll be in touch. But he's never going to be in touch.
You should have not said the media part and been like, yeah, dude, I'm talking about Sundays. Like watching your film.
I'm watching ball. I watch your film all day.
That's funny. Yeah.
I mean, it happens. It happened to Belichick.
It did. Yeah.
Football. I have T and Belichick.
Yes. Me and Belichick handshake.
You know, the old stat, like people will make the joke, you know, this team lost to the bye week. This one kind of sucks for Lions fans, but the Browns now have the second worst points against in the NFL, 163.

The Lions are still first, 170.

And they lost to the bye week.

Whatever.

That's tough.

You've seen the post.

Dan Campbell's going to put that up on his wall.

Yes.

As motivation, how to respond from getting dragged down into the mud.

This is another thing Dan Campbell has to overcome. Yes.
He. He loves it.
Okay, next up, Vikings-Dolphins. Let's see where we want to start.
The Vikings weren't great, but it felt like they should have blown out the Dolphins. The Dolphins were yet again playing the QB carousel, so this is now the third game in a row where the QB that started didn't finish the game.
Can somebody explain to me why Teddy Bridgewater didn't start this game? And why they had Skylar Thompson start? Because if he could play in it. I can.
So Mike McDaniel's offense, he stresses so much on the game plan, having the practice reps. Teddy Bridgewater couldn't practice.
He got cleared on Wednesday to Wednesday to practice. Right, so his big deal is the install that he does, he stresses that the QB that is going to start needs to actually practice the plays and how they're trying to attack the defense.
So he said that. He was like, Teddy was okay, but Skyler had the first team reps all week, and that's very important to me.
I think that's a situation where maybe if you're a coach that's been in the league for longer than a year as a head coach, looks at the roster and says, okay, we can start something called a Skyler Thompson or we can start Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah.
No disrespect to Skyler Thompson. He was good at, what, Kansas State? Yes.
He's a very good quarterback there. But, like, Teddy Bridgewater is a very good backup quarterback.
He was a very good Kansasansas state quarterback he was the guy who just like they would get into third and long and make

a big pass and then he would also just run like straight ahead right up the middle and get like

seven yards every kansas state quarterback yeah it was awesome he was great uh but yeah it was um

so third straight game that they they didn't they started with a different quarterback than they

finished the game with i would say that's probably not conducive to winning they were still kind of

Thank you. game that they started with a different quarterback than they finished the game with.
I would say that's probably not conducive to winning. They were still kind of weirdly in this game and I don't really know what to make of the Vikings.
They're 5-1? Yeah, they're 5-1. They're good.
I will say they're good. They are a good football team.
You see Kirk Cousins after the game. Oh, he's blinging.
Kirk Cousins after the game he's now doing a thing where like every player on the team that has a chain just gives it to Kirk to wear after a win. Yeah.
And I got to be honest, Kirk's, he's winning me over. No, when I saw that clip, I was like, this is how my football Sunday's going because I'm losing everything and then Kirk Cousins is like kind of looking cool.
Kirk Cousins is objectively a swaggier person than I am. Kind of looking cool on a 5-1 Vikings team.
I lose at everything.

He legitimately looked like a guy that could pull off chains.

This is Kirk Cousins.

This is Cole's Cash Cousins that we're talking about.

He's starting to win me over.

I know it's bad.

Don't.

I know it's bad, but Big Cat, he's 5-1.

He's looked good this year, except for the Eagles game where he looked like trash in primetime. Classic Kirk primetime.
He sucked. But every other time, he looks good.
I'm like 80% back to being back on Kirk Cousins. Yeah.
I mean, the Vikings are good. I say it.
Oh, wait. Antonio Brown hit me back with just crying face emojis.
So I'm not getting a picture of his balls. I am also – I don't really know what to make of Kirk Cousins.
I still think he sucks, but I'm man enough to admit that the Vikings are good. They're good.
And their defense played well today, and Justin Jefferson is still incredible. Adam Thielen caught a touchdown.
The Dolphins, they had one of the most hilarious uh stretches where they had they had five penalties in one drive and they had which you never really see in an nfl game it happens like in mac football which shout out mac coming back soon uh they had a first and 30 and a third and 28 which is very rare to see But it felt like they kept on shooting themselves in the foot,

including Jalen Waddell, who now – Jalen Waddell's very close to becoming the drop-seize guy

and the fumble guy, which you never want to have.

And then when the Vikings turned him over,

they did the Waddell in the end zone, and that sucks.

That was bad to have.

That's the only problem with having a signature touchdown dance

is that it gives your opponent something to do in your face

when they score against you. So Gasicki did the gritty.
He tried to redeem himself on the gritty. I think this podcast, since we are experts at the gritty, we should become the judge on who has.
We should rate the gritty. Yeah, who has the nicest gritty.
I still say Kirk Cousins is the best at the gritty. You tend to disagree.
No. I mean, yes, I disagree.
You disagree with that. I would say Gesicki is better this week than Gesicki was two weeks ago when he did the gritty.
Jamar Chase is doing a little variation on his gritty because he's like all these Kirk Cousins is doing it. I have to do something different.
So he has like a little bit of a pop as well, so much so that I brought him up again. Steven Che thought he tore his hamstring doing the gritty.
He's like, Jamar Chase just hurt his hamstring. I was like, dude, that sucks that you thought that was a hamstring injury when he was just being cool doing the gritty.
The thing I like the most, maybe actually the least, about Mike Kosicki's gritty this week is how long it went. Yeah.
It felt like he started doing like he started doing the gritty, then he imagined that people were giving him, like, applause for an encore. Yep.
And he kept doing it all the way to the sidelines. Too far.
I think he started doing it in the middle of the next play that they ran. Yeah.
It was just, it was probably like a minute and a half long gritty. The gritty should be five seconds long at the most.
At most. Yeah, the Dolphins, though, they outgained the Vikings by 222 yards and lost this game somewhat convincingly.
So weird game. Mike McDaniels, he's obviously not a coach that I've circled, but the Aviators look not as fun when you're losing.
They don't look good when you lose, yeah. He can only wear those in Miami, too.
I don't want to see him wearing those on the sidelines in any other city. It'd look weird in Buffalo if he's wearing the Aviators.
Yeah, we also got a hilarious update to the ping pong table. I'm sure you saw this, but the ping pong table was not taken away because they wanted to focus on game planning.
It was taken away because it was damaged. And Tyreek Hill said he's working on getting a new one and the players only tournament is still on.
They're actually upgrading their ping pong table. So it's kind of the reverse where the ping pong table is getting taken away, not because they're trying to eliminate distractions, but because they want to improve the quality.
They want to like quadruple the money that they've spent. Right.
They want to play more ping pong now, which is fine. I think that they should probably lean in and play as much ping pong as they want, as long as two is their quarterback.
Yes. That's really the main concern.
I think if two is playing, they could win this game. They probably would win this game.
Yes. Yes, I'd agree.
So weird times for the Dolphins. They just got to – I think it's baby steps right now for the Dolphins.
Just start a game with a quarterback and finish the game with the same quarterback. Tyreek Hill had that thing happen to him that he always has where he had like 175 yards and then his muscles since his body is so compact his entire body just cramps up into a

little ball yep and he has to just check himself out of the game not any like severe pain but his

muscles just kind of they like have a revolution against the rest of his body and he's like we got

to shut this down we're performing at at uh such incredible performance rates right now that we

can't sustain another play in this we're moving so fast yeah he had 12 catches for 177 yards here

is We're performing at such incredible performance rates right now that we can't sustain another play in this football game. We're moving so fast.
Yeah, he had 12 catches for 177 yards. Here is a completely mind-blowing stat for everyone out there.
In Dolphins history, most games with 10-plus receptions and 150 yards, Tyreek Hill is the leader with three. Shut up.
It's week six. I was going to say like eight other guys are tied with one.
Chris Chambers? Dude, he has three already and that is the leader in Dolphins history. That's insane.
You know what? That's a big... That's fucking insane.
That's a big black eye on Dan Marino. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true. Didn't spread it enough.
Yeah. But that's a crazy...
I know that you obviously, you know do those stats, there's like 10 receptions, 150-plus yards. I'm sure there's a lot of guys like nine receptions, 200 yards, or whatever it may be.
But Tyreek Hill, that's just crazy. Three times he's done it in six weeks.
I feel like Jarvis Landry should have had some of those games because he definitely had some double-digit catch games. Unless I got Billy Fact.
I mean, it was a CBS Sports account that tweeted it. So that's their fault.

Blue check.

So that's an insane stat.

That is crazy, yeah.

What are you going to say, Billy?

My stat was technically right.

No.

How?

Not at all.

What do you mean by technically?

No.

The way you said it, no.

It was seven years ago.

So that was the second time.

So you just cut it off there.

Yeah.

So.

What?

No.

If you change with the definition of the number seven. Seven is 2015.
Yeah. So, what? No.
If you change what the definition of the number seven is.

2015.

Yeah.

So you're just cutting it off.

Yeah.

2015, that's why I read that.

Now, let's just say like crazy, this is not going to happen.

The Bears are not going to beat the Patriots.

But if the Bears did beat the Patriots, could I do that same stat back to you?

Yes.

Probably.

Yeah.

How many times have the Jets beat the Patriots?

Have you checked that one, Billy?

How many times have the Jets beat the Patriots?

I'm going to go? Yes. Probably.
Yeah. How many times have the Jets beat the Patriots? Have you checked that one, Billy? How many times have the Jets beat the Patriots? I think the last time was when Sanchez.
They haven't beat us before the pump fumble. That's where I'm like, we're the same.
2015 also. Yeah, so we're the same.
Your team is better right now, but we're the same. Right, but we have really young players.
Yeah, no, you're ascending. I don't take back anything I said.
You guys should be totally pumped. But that's why I was like, what are you talking about? We get beat by our rival.
We get our fucking shit kicked in. We don't win.
Every now and then we have a couple years. It's like, oh, NFC Championship game, AFC Championship game, And then back to just sucking.
I was for a second during the first half. I was very scoreless.
I was like, yeah. Let's hope that the Jets continue it.
They might make me eat a cheesesteak tonight. If the Jets have a good year this year and then they suck next year, I'd just be like, that was the 2018 Bears.
Right. Right.
Here's another CBS Sports tweet that they just put out. Packers last four seasons.
2019, three losses. I don't like this.
2020, three losses. I do like this.
2021, four losses. 2022, three losses.
I like this. Already.
I like this. The CBS Sports account.
It's happening. Pretty good.
It's happening. They got the good good.
Oh, they also have a tweet. Max, I do want you to address this because you've talked about this off the air here, but we need to have a discussion on the air.
They've got a picture of the receivers wearing the Batman T-shirts. What's going on with the Philly receivers calling themselves Batman? I thought we had talked about this.
I don't think we said it on the air. Yeah.
Fast Batman, skinny Batman. Darius Slay, this was earlier in the year.
Darius Slay. Someone asked about if there's a Batman and Robin situation in the receiving corps of the Eagles.
And he said, no, they're all Batman. We just have Swole Batman, AJ Brown, Skinny Batman, Devante Smith, and then Fast Batman, Quez Watkins.
That's pretty lame. Do you even multiverse, bro? No, you got to figure out better names.

You can't have like swole Batman, fast Batman.

It's also just lame to like call someone a bat something.

Isn't Batman all three of those things?

Stanley.

Who cares? He's not skinny.

He's not skinny.

He's not skinny.

He's not skinny.

You can't force a bat nickname on someone.

Yeah.

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The frisky fun. Falcons 28, the 49ers 14.
Look at these Falcons. Are the Falcons maybe good? I think the Falcons are definitely good.
Definitely good. I think the Falcons are definitely good.
Not necessarily all the time as far as points and scores go, but I think they've got the building blocks of a good team. Yeah.
I think that they are good when they're not Falcons-ing it away. They have to get the stink of the Falcons off them, and what they did today was it was very effective.
They got dressed up as Deion Sanders. They did.
And when they put on the red helmets, they look amazing. When they wear the all-blacks, they look amazing.
It kind of helps to shred some of the – it's like a snake shedding its skin. Yeah.
The Falcons just needed to get a little bit of that stink off them. I think that they're a solid football team.
Yeah, they are well-coached.

Arthur Smith, our friend, recurring guest, they're a very well-coached team because they are kind of similar to Brian Dable, what he's doing. Arthur Smith knows his limitations as a team.
He knows what they do well, what they don't. Here's a little fun stat to prove this.
The Falcons are now 3-0 when they ask Marcus Mariota to complete 13 or less passes. There you go.
3-0. So, they basically, Marcus Mariota was 13-14 today.
He ran in for a touchdown as well. He threw two touchdown passes.
Basically, hey, don't kill us, Marcus. We'll run the ball the most.
The Falcons are also leading the league in rush attempts which you'd think like oh the Browns definitely are number one no because Kevin's to fancy what we talked about they are well coached and they are basically zagging on the entire league just being like pass pass pass let's play to our strengths and we'll run run run and a lot of teams struggle to defend that because it doesn't happen very often. It's kind of like what Michigan football is doing right now.
Right, right, where it's like, oh, everyone's doing spread offense. Well, what are you going to do when your team is built to not only run the spread offense but defend the spread offense? And it's a lot of light defenders and they don't know what to do when you get a big fucker just bearing down on them.
To be fair, it's probably not a matter of asking Marcus Mariota to not complete more than 13 passes. No, but the attempts.
It's probably more like don't have him, you don't want him passing the ball. You want to be a run-heavy offense.
Yeah. The 49ers ran a 16-play, 8-minute drive.
That's what they do. Well, they were trailing by 14 points and they came away scoreless off that at that point it's probably it's over the game's over because you can't kill that much clock it's an impressive drive yeah just from like a football standpoint bleed the clock out but you in general you want to be running a 16 play eight minute drive when you're ahead by 14 points yes not when you're behind by 14 points i don't know if't know if this is the coach that you were talking about.
Big cat. When we're talking.
No, it wasn't. It wasn't.
I wasn't either, but the thought just occurred to me. At what point do we start asking if Kyle Shanahan is overrated? Okay.
So this game, I would not put that in there because one defense is fucked up. Their defense is fucked up.
They're missing a Bosa, Armstead, Kinlaw, and and emmanuel mosley a lot of a lot of really good dudes and then i think also their other cornerback got hurt uh like in the first quarter a lot of dudes out they were they did the whole staying out on the east coast thing where they had back-to-back road games and like we know uh because we've seen it this was just a bad jim game. Like, he was not good today.
He was 4 for 11 for 72 yards and two picks when he was asked to throw it for more than 10 yards. You saw it in the last, like, even the last play that they had where it was fourth and, like, one.
And he skipped the ball, like a five-yard pass. He skipped the ball on the ground ground when you need this to keep the game going it was just jimmy g did not when jimmy g looks okay and everything's working for the 49ers they're the 49ers are basically like a well-oiled machine or like um a perfect uh a bicycle where if you just stick a stick in the spokes the whole thing can fall apart but if you can't get the stick in the spokes they'll just run right over you yeah i think that made sense uh like the i've never seen all the star wars movies but like one of those big tall things that runs through the desert right the big machines if you just like tie some dental floss around its legs it'll trip over it's it's kind of like watching um army or navy in the triple option when you can almost tell within the first drive this this is going to work or this won't today.
Yeah. Like, you know right away this is going to work for the 49ers.
It's a day where everything's schemed up perfectly. They're blocking perfectly.
Their defense is flying around. And this was one of those days where you turned on the game and you're like, nope, this is not the 49ers day.
Yeah. So the reason why I asked that is because he is 42 and 45 in the regular season.
But you've got to remember he has had some quarterback things, and he gets a lot of passes because he's had to play with a lot of backup quarterbacks. A ton.
But this year, their backup quarterback is also the same guy that he wanted to be their starting quarterback. So it's not really that much.
Yeah, but at first anymore. He got hand selected.
It's now back to Jimmy G's. Now Jimmy G's.
The backup. Unwanted backup.
Yes. And it's not Kyle Shanahan's fault that they're losing with him.
You could make the argument Kyle Shanahan maybe needs someone else to decide his next quarterback. That could probably.
That could be it. That could be fair.
I'd take him as a coach. I'd like to be very clear.
I would cut my foot off. would love to have him i would take kyle shanahan and jimmy garoppolo as a package deal for life to be my head coach and quarterback yes for the next 10 years yes without a doubt i just want it we're just having the discussion we're having the discussion i haven't circled him yet but i know that that discussion exists out there yep because the 49ers they did not look good today but a lot of injuries like 49ers I know we joke about the Chargers the 49ers definitely are up there with injuries every year yeah it feels like they always have injuries to like I guess maybe that's the problem this is like why the Bears and Commanders are smart how they do it where they just have rosters with no good players if you don't have good players they can't get injured yeah you can't tear an ACL on an all all pro wide receiver right you don't have so you can't have that bummer like damn we just we just our left tackle who's one of the best of all time is out no we never had him yeah so he can't be out in our case we did have trent williams yeah and then we actually we actually did lose him because our medical staff misdiagnosed scalp cancer yeah and then he decided he wasn't going to play for us and so now he's on the 49ers yeah so that did happen that was a tough example that you scalp cancer.
Yeah. And then he decided he wasn't going to play for us.

And so now he's on the 49ers.

Yeah.

So that was,

that did happen.

That was a tough example that you gave me,

but Trent Williams is coming back.

But you get what I'm saying.

I do.

I do.

If you don't have good players,

you could never lose them.

Yeah.

So Trent Williams is coming back and that's going to make a massive

difference.

Yeah.

It's like the whole,

like it's better to have loved and lost and never loved.

That's bullshit.

I disagree.

Yeah.

I'd rather never love.

Just be lonely for life.

Yeah.

Cause when you love and loss, you're like, damn that that really hurts. Yep.
Like, my heart is broken. Yep.
It'd be better to just never know what that feels like. I agree.
Okay, so yeah, Falcons, frisky fun. Frisky fun.
And maybe good. Shout out Arthur Smith and the boys.
They were slamming Coors Lights in the locker room afterwards. They are.
They're a good coach team. That was nice to see.
also like that it's very hockey ask which by the way you see Ryan Whitney today yeah he was at the Steelers game yeah I have a joke about that okay he was there supporting his brothers and sisters the other pigeons that were down on the field they were flying around in your fucking face yeah piece of shit yeah how was your weekend bitch those pigeons probably got probably got better ankles than wit um uh oh i had one last point fuck i can't remember it though oh falcons are looking to be only the fifth team all time to start 7-0 against spread wow that's we're getting in history boys that's more impressive than we're getting into history. Yes, that is.
They're 6-0 against the spread. They're 3-3.
We talked a little bit about it on Sunday, but like every – or sorry, Friday show. But every other team that started 6-0 against the spread was really good.
They were just blowing people out. Yeah.
Like they weren't underdogs losing and covering. It the patriots 2007 which was the 18 and 1 team uh tennessee 2008 which i can't remember who's on that team was that they started seven and oh there no vince young maybe maybe either way look it up jake they started seven and oh in real games and against the spread.
2018 Kansas City Chiefs, which we know, started 6-1, 7-0 against the spread. And then last year's Dallas Cowboys started 7-0 against the spread, 6-1 straight up.
So all these teams were really – like what the Falcons are doing is way more impressive because they're 3-3 and they're 6-0 against the spread. I mean, this would be the all-time twist for Calvin Ridley to get suspended for a full season.

The greatest gambling team.

And their team becomes the greatest gambling team of all time.

Yeah.

So who do they have next week?

We've got to have them.

We've got to get them away.

Let's do what?

I think they're playing the Bengals.

Whose line is it anyway?

Is it at the Bengals?

At Cincinnati.

At Cincinnati.

I'm going to say Cincinnati minus 3-1⁄2. 4-1⁄2.
At Cincinnati. I'm going to say Cincinnati minus three and a half.
Four and a half. The line is.
Is. I'm stalling.
Minus six and a half. Six and a half.
Oh, Falcons can cover that. Hammer.
Easy. Hammer.
Let's make history. What jerseys are they wearing? Let's make history.
And are they going to pass the ball to Kyle Pitts? That another big one if they can do that then they're a good football team also I forgot they should tell you what jerseys they're going to wear way earlier in the week because if I had known maybe I just wasn't paying attention but if I had known that they were going to be wearing these yep I would drop the hammer on yep um I forgot the 2008 uh Tennessee Titans Kerry Collins remember that oh Yeah It was Chris Johnson, Cary Collins. It was like maybe Chris Johnson's rookie year, one of the first ones.
Jeff Fisher. True.
Which is nice. Jeff Fisher, 7-0 against the spread.
They finished the year, I think, 13-3 and then lost in divisional playoffs. That's too bad.
Okay, next up. Colts-Jags.
Matt Reins. Colts 34, Jags 27.
The Jaguars are the Jaguars. They just are.
I think sometimes the Jaguars aren't the Jaguars at home. Against the Colts.
Against the Colts. But they are.
I was pumped up because I thought the Jaguars might be good. I don't think're I don't think they're bad they could have won this game oh they absolutely could have won this game they actually ran the ball down their throats they they made Matt Ryan though like completely revive his Matt Ryan last we saw Matt Ryan his team couldn't score a touchdown he looked like he wanted to be anywhere else he was getting absolutely mangled and then he plays the jaguars and he has the his career high in completions not only his career high in completions this one is another stat that blew my mind he has the indianapolis colts career high in completions that's crazy yeah manning andrew luck ever heard of them matt ryan goes 42 for 58 389 yards and three touchdowns they They made Matt Ryan come back to life.
You'd think that maybe Peyton Manning hasn't had to pass the ball that much in certain games. He has 40.
I mean, he was in some shootouts. His highest is 40 completion.
So, in the first half, the Colts ran 40 plays, I believe. 40 plays to 22 for the Jaguars.
And I think I heard them say that Ryan threw the ball 37 times.

37 times.

So out of the 40 plays that they ran in the first half,

he threw the ball 37 times.

They basically were like 58 pass.

So Matt Ryan right now leads the league in pass attempts.

They,

I actually think this might be Frank,

right?

Like just saved his job because he just did the dumbest thing that became

genius. We watched Matt Ryan suck so bad.
was like you know what we do more Matt Ryan and it did work because Jaguars pass defense wasn't good and the Jaguars uh rush defense is pretty good so they just went more Matt Ryan and Matt Ryan had a career day for Matt Ryan here's a fun stat is the uh the Indianapolis Colts have not had a halftime lead in eight games. That is crazy.
That's pretty wild considering some of the teams they get to play. Yes.
Yes. So the Colts, I don't know.
I don't want to say they like righted it, but it does feel like this after a terrible Thursday night game that they ended up with a win and then they take care of the Jaguars in, you know, you know, back late to win the game where they they even went for the jugular late where it was like we could have kicked the field goal um it was third and 13 they're like no fuck it let's throw it to the end zone here with alec pierce maybe i'm maybe the colts aren't terrible i don't know what to make of this i think i help me i think that they're still going to be in underachieving territory. They're running backs out, which is a pretty big deal.
Jonathan Taylor is – That's why they threw him. He's got like a league MVP case that he can make when he's healthy.
So they're having to lean on Matt Ryan. And I don't see Matt Ryan being able to throw the ball this many times.
No. Multiple weeks in a row.
It's like when we saw Joe Flacco and his attempts up in the 50s. He's too old and too coltsy to be making that many attempts, that many dropbacks.
He's going to get sacked, and he's going to get broken in half. But what if Frank Reich, this is like, he just found it.
He did go back to his old glasses today. Frank Reich did.
I like those. And Matt Ryan didn't get sacked today, and they threw it.
He basically did the thing that no one was asking for more of, and it worked. So 6.7 was his average, average yards per completion.
First half was all dump-offs pretty much. All dump-offs.
Second half, he actually threw a deep. It's smart to have Matt Ryan get rid of the ball quickly.
That way he can't fumble. Yes.
Yes. What do you say, Billy? Guess why Matt Ryan performed so well? Why? Someone was activated and made QB two.
Oh, Sam Ellinger. He was looking in the mirror.
Yeah. So Sam Ellinger, he is activated.
Probably it was also the scout team, Trevor Lawrence this week. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
And we all know that he is, he's better than Trevor Lawrence, right? A hundred percent. Where are we at on the, on the stock up, stock down? Well, Sam Ellinger stocks up now that he's actually on the team for game day.
And, I mean, Trevor Lawrence, as we saw, just took an L. And Trevor Lawrence didn't play bad.
It actually was a game where both coaches game plan perfectly against the opponent. It's just the Colts outlasted them.
Like, the Jaguars just rammed it down the Colts' throat. They ran plus yards it seemed like everything worked that they wanted to the Colts were like fuck it we'll throw it on top of you all day and that just ended up working more in the end like that was kind of how the game went I believe the Colts are now 2-0 in Lucas Oil Stadium when the window and the roof is open yeah it was a lot of shadows shadows yep speaking Speaking of the Colts record, do you guys know what it is right now? 3-2-1.
3-2-1. Oh, that is cool.
It's a countdown. Oh, Jesus, Jake.
That is pretty cool. I love you.
It's unique. I love you.
Yeah, that is great. That's fair.
I love it. So what happens? Do they blast off next week? That's what I was saying.
Blast off. Happy birthday.
No, no. Buzzer beater.
Happy New Year. It could be a bomb.
Whatever direction you want to go in.

It could also be a bomb.

It could be a bomb.

Jake, is it a bomb that we have to defuse or is it a launch?

New Year.

Is it New Year?

Yeah, New Year.

So who are they playing?

Titans.

At Titans.

That's a bomb.

I feel like it might be a bomb.

I think they might be about to explode.

That's a bomb.

Do bombs have milliseconds? No. It depends, right? Three, two, one.
Jake, what bomb? What would you say a bomb has? Milliseconds? I don't think it does. From watching like 24.
Yeah, it does. It's got the numbers on the right that tick down really fast.
It does. I guess it depends.
Hank. I don't really have experience.
Close your eyes. I'm going to do do a countdown Tell me what you envision happening after this 3, 2, 1 It's a bomb It's a bomb It's a fun stat I hope they don't have to fly to Tennessee Oh god Jesus Jake, what did you do? You're going to have to track that flight, Jake, to make sure it lands perfectly.

There's only one time that everyone in the country is simultaneously counting three,

two, one.

Yeah, when the bomb goes off.

No one is counting that.

Someone's counting on a giant loudspeaker.

Okay, this is not the turn I expected this Saturday.

All right, wait.

Do it to me.

I'll close my eyes.

All right, here we go.

Ready?

Yep.

Three, two, one.

Oh, no, it's a birthday bomb. No, it was a happy new year bomb.
Oh, no. What about this? Three, two, one.
Jenkins at the buzzer. Villanova.
Got you. Hell, yeah.
Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah.
I just saw a dumbest Monday show. I saw a rocket ship taking off, but then it was the Challenger.

Oh, no.

Jake, this is bad.

I think you just bombed him.

You bombed him.

And there's a teacher on board.

Oh, no.

Yep.

And she was an inspiration to all the little kids.

Congrats, Jake. They watched her die live on air in their classroom.

You just killed a blue collar worker, Jake.

What was her name? There she is. Miss Teacher.
Jenkins is the best. She's going up to space.
Three, two, one. Colts record.
Okay. Stat Hole Sports sent me one.
The Colts ended a 111-minute McAuliffe. TD drought.
Oh, that was the teacher's name. That's pretty cool.
111-minute. Yeah, because they didn't score at all last week, right? Yeah.
They've – TD drought, 111 minutes. Their offense is very confusing to me.
Yeah. Very confusing.
The only reason I bring it up is because it's just fun to remember that in 2000, the Ravens that won the Super Bowl, they went on a 328-minute TD drought, weeks five through nine. Oh, so this is the recipe.
They went on a TD drought, then scored a touchdown, weeks five through nine, and still managed to go two and three in that stretch, which is insane. I guess if you can learn how to win games without playing any offense, you're probably a good team and then i looked up

uh just because it's fun to look up like uh incredible defenses the the ravens in 2000 had 15 out of because it was 20 weeks because they played four uh playoff games 15 out of the 20 weeks they held their opponent to 10 points or less including all four rounds of the playoffs The Trent Dilfer year.

85 Bears had 14 out of 19 weeks, 10 points or less.

And... including all four rounds of the playoffs.
The Trent Dilfer year. 85 Bears had 14 out of 19 weeks, 10 points or less, and only gave up 10 points in the entire playoffs.
It's just fun to look at crazy defenses because we don't have them anymore. Yeah, I'll say it.
Imagine going five weeks without scoring an offensive touchdown and still going two and three. Well, the Bucs at the start of the year looked like they might of those defense.
Yeah, but they're just not a 2000 Ravens team. Crazy, crazy.
Every time they would get an interception, they would try to do the rugby play. They would try to pitch it back until, because they knew Trent, Trent Dilfer is our quarterback.
We're probably more likely to score. We do insane amounts of laterals on any return than if we give, give the ball to this guy.
15 weeks. They held their opponents to 10 points or less.
Shout out to Travis Etienne, who is a first-round pick from last year that's now playing really well. I have three first-round picks this year.
I like the idea of a guy named Jamichael Hastie being really fast. That's just so cool.
So that's my fun look on the bright side, Jacksonville Jaguars stat of the week for chaps. Doug Peterson's a good coach because he knew he's like, hey, we think we can run on them.
Let's go do that. Yep.
And they did. He was right.
Yeah, they were right until they didn't win. Okay.
Rams 24, Panthers 10. The Rams, we got three games left.
The Rams got right. We expected this this this is exactly what we talked about i think

on thursday when we recorded i think i said the i'm taking the panthers first quarter money line

because they're going to come out juiced up because they've got an interim coach then you put something good on film and then they're going to get the shit kicked out of them in the second half and the rams are going to cover the spread you were very close to not covering the spread i don't know if you saw that they did cover the spread it was very close there It was Jacob Eason came in the game.

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That's a a contract year. It's just a trading block getting trade traded soon game.
They said he did. So they said, I read an article earlier this week that said McCaffrey, the Panthers will listen to all offers for McCaffrey.
They'll also listen to all offers for Robbie Anderson, but it's not going to be a fire sale. Well, Robbie Anderson, yeah, not so much anymore.
But I think by definition, if they're going to trade Robbie Anderson and Christian McCaffrey, that's kind of a fire sale. Well, Robbie Anderson's getting cut.
He might get cut. I would say that he got ejected by his own team.
He got ejected by his own team, got in a fight with his wide receivers coach. He was sitting apart from the rest of the wide receivers.
He probably wants to get cut. He was saying, like, trade me as he was walking off.
So, yeah, it felt like the Panthers didn't really solve anything by by firing Matt Rule I don't think that they're gonna they're not gonna cut Robbie Anderson right they're gonna trade him still I don't know because he still has value he's still a pretty good player he's kind of a nut job but I feel like you can get something for him but now that everyone watched him get in ejected by his own team they're gonna oh, how about we give you like a seventh round pick? Yeah, you've lost all your internal leverage. Your only hope is that like Robbie Anderson basically went out there and did a commercial for Robbie Anderson to every other team.
So maybe other teams will get into a bidding war against each other. And maybe you can end up with like a fifth or a fourth.
Maybe. But this game, I actually, instead of talking about the Panthers in this game, because they suck and they're going to continue to suck, the story that came out Sunday morning about Matt Rule, very fucking funny.
I don't know if you guys saw it, but Matt Rule had a manifesto when he got to Carolina called The Way of the Panther. Yeah, I did see that.
So part part of it read Pepsi tastes like Pepsi 24 hours a day we have a brand at the Panthers this brand defines us both on the field and everyday life we are the toughest hardest working most competitive team in the NFL and then on top of that document was our plan to win which had a bunch of football metrics. Here are some of the metrics.
Explosive offensive plays, gains of 20-plus yards. The Panthers were 29th.
Turnover differential, they were 25th. Yards per carry, they were 24th.
Red zone scoring percentage, they were 30th. It goes on and on and on.
The way of the Panther did not end up working out. And I guess everyone was just mocking it for the entire last year that matt rule was there because he also had in there uh it was an acronym oou one of us so every time they were like trying to draft or trade for a guy they'd ask is he oou yeah and then it like from all these from this report that i read it was just basically everyone walked around just making fun of oou one us, isn't that what you say to somebody like in a cult initiation? Yeah.
I think they say that in Fight Club. Google Gobble, one of us.
Right before they blow up everything at the end. Three, two, one.
Yeah, that's it. The Way of the Panther is a very, you can't say the Way of the Panther.
The Way of the Panther. It's like Pepsi.
You can say like the Panther way, but when you reverse and you go the way of the Panther, it sounds like a spiritual, like mystical journey that you're being led on by a shaman. Yeah.
You can't go way of the Panther. It sounds like a rejected Bruce Lee script.
Yeah. It's also funny for Pepsi to be the one that you point to.
Well. I mean, Pepsi's fine when people.
I'm not a snob. probably prefer coke but i also drink pepsi like when whenever i'm at like a uh out to dinner and they're like is pepsi okay i'm like yeah fine great yeah but maybe i don't know apple or something i don't know pepsi has a brand yeah pepsi does have a which is like i guess i'd probably rather be doing something else right but if that's all you have the way that's actually exactly how i feel about watching pan about watching panthers games on television yeah we are the toughest hardest working most competitive team in the nfl if there's absolutely no other football i'll watch the panthers game right i'll have a good time watching it probably oh is pepsi is panther football okay sure yeah all right yeah i can watch it i'll have i'll have that has there ever been an interim interim coach uh oh i don't know because i i don't know if Wilkes is cut out.
If I were him, I wouldn't deal with this shit. No, I mean, they're going to be bad.
I'd be like, you want me to be a babysitter for the rest of the year? Here's what the Panthers are going to do. They're going to lose every game by a shitload.
They're going to win one more game. And it will surprise all of us.
I will probably bet against them that week, and they'll win one more game. Baker will win a game.
Yeah, they're going to win one more gonna win one more game that's just what's gonna happen if you're Steve Wilkes why why do you even do this you know you're not gonna be around next year get a little more money maybe probably I would rather just I'd rather take the you only have like three more weeks of it being nice enough weather to do something fun outside I would not want to waste those weeks coaching the Carolina Panthers you got've got to remember, every single football coach in the history of football is a psycho and thinks, oh, I can change them. I'm the one who can change them.
I'm the one who can make them better. You've got players trying to fight their coaches on the sidelines.
But every coach looks at the situation and is like, I can change these. I can tame the wild horse.
You've got Jacob Eason coming into the game because that's your quarterback right now. Yeah.
Your best player, Christian McCaffrey, you probably shouldn't really be playing that much anymore so you can get him traded. Right.
Him getting hurt. Yep.
I would just, I'd be like, you know what? I'm going to go golf. Yeah.
I'm going to go take it easy for the next month and a half. He probably got like half a million bucks or something.
I don't know. Maybe David Tepper was like, we'll keep you around.
It'd be very funny if this became like a very Shakespearean thing where it was like Dwight and Michael Scott and Jim from The Office where it's like Ben McAdoo secretly plotting to try to take over the interim job from Steve Wilkes and then getting it and completely fucking that up too. I'm ready for it.
Yes. It was just a folly.
His entire plot. His plot works to perfection, but then he takes it over and he realizes he has to coach the Carolina Panthers.
Yeah, he also sucks. And then, wow, this is awful.
What a bad situation. Yes, yes.
He not only realizes the Panthers suck, but he sucks. Yeah.
He's like, what did I get myself into? Alan Robinson, welcome to the NFL season. Welcome to the Rams.
Yeah, it looks good now. Yeah, he had a touchdown, a couple nice plays.
And, yeah, the Rams, this was, we had multiple get-right games. The Rams were the only ones that actually got right.
So this could be a good win for the Rams because they've got, I think, backups at every position on their offensive line. Maybe one of the guys is still a starter.
But like Kyle Long told us, it takes a few weeks to even start to even start to gel yeah it's an offensive line these guys were never supposed to play together in the first place so it's taking them a while to get right i still think matthew stafford might be hurt yeah oh yeah i still think there's something wrong with him he's always hurt um okay we got two more games before we do that pt you got one more uh quick ad for us before we get to the rest of these games i want to talk to you about our great friends over at Instacart. They want to know what our favorite dips are for game day.
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And a bunch of three and outs there. They feel like they can't get anything going.
Keep betting against the Cardinals first half. But yes, Cliff Kingsbury, I circled him.
Okay, he circled. This is a coach I want to talk about too.
So it is blind resume season. I'm going to give you a blind resume.
Okay. is 26 27 and one okay coach two is 35 and 40 which one do you like more i uh i guess the no 35 and 40 trick question they're the same person 26 27 1 is cliff kingsbury's record as an nfl coach yep 35 and 40.
Trick question. They're the same person.
26, 27, 1 is Cliff Kingsbury's record as an NFL coach. Yep.
35 and 40 is his record as a college head coach. Yep.
Cliff Kingsbury, you can say a lot of things about him. He's not a fraud.
No, he's failed upwards. He's failed upwards, and he is who he is.
Yeah. No, he's the same guy.
This is the exact same guy. I don't know why he was getting all these different jobs in college football, and then he got snaked out of there by the NFL that gave him a head coach spot.
Remember, he was the OC for USC for a minute. For, like, literally one minute.
And then Arizona was like, ooh, that's cool. Yeah, actually, tell you what, we want to get a hot young OC that hasn't actually been the offense coordinator for this team yet.
Yeah. Let's just hire him out for the Trojans right now.
He is the real deal. He is who he thinks he is.
And who we think he is. I have no idea because I'm not, you know, I don't watch the tape.
I don't know what his actual schemes are, if they're working, not working, if it's a coaching thing or it's a Kyler thing. I don't know.
I'm not going to pretend I know. What I do know is you gave a ton of money to Kyler.
That means that Cliff was going to be the fix if things don't work out this next year. Like, that's just simple knowing how the NFL works.
You basically said Kyler is our guy, and the only way to change, if things don't go well with Kyler, before you admit to everyone it's Kyler's fault because you're paying him all this money you admit to everyone that it's the coach's fault and get a new coach that's just how it works in the nfl for better or worse you could like someone who watches all the film could break it down and be like actually cliff's schemes are working it's kyler that's messing it up unfortunately that's just not how it's going to work. When they have to figure out how to move forward,

it's going to be Cliff that goes, not Kyler.

The interesting thing is that I don't think you'll be able to find

a real top-of-the-line head coach that would want to come in

and coach Kyler because of all the shit that's happened behind the scenes

and a little bit in front of the scenes with the

you have to study four hours of game film.

But remember what I just said about Steve Wilkes.

I did remember what you said about that. And someone's going to be like, Kyler, I can fix him.
Is there going to be an I can fix you guy? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
I don't know if you're like. For that much money, too.
If you're like a real top guy. Yeah.
Yeah. I would just say fucking throw a bag at Lincoln Riley and hope that he goes to Arizona.
Yeah. I mean, he's obviously doing well at USC, but some big whiz kid offensive guys can be like, ooh, I can get the most out of Kyle.
A young hotshot. They all have egos.
They all love money. It's just they will be like, yeah, I'm the one who can make Kyler the best.
I'm going to look up who else was on that 2013 Washington Redskins. There's got to be.
Maybe it's one of the guys. You know what? Maybe it's Michael Floor.
It probably will be Michael Floor. It's Michael Floor.
I'm pretty sure he was on that. Yeah, he's going to be the next coach of the Arizona Cardinals.
Again, I don't know if it's Cliff Kingsbury, like, if it's his fault, although, like you said with the blind resume, it has shown. That's just who he is.
It is who he is. But the money was given to Kyler.
They basically said he's our quarterback for the next however many years. And Cliff Kingsbury, if he doesn't turn it around this year, I think will probably be the one who gets kicked out.
And maybe it's all different when DeAndre comes back, which is this week, right? Yes. So this Thursday night.
So we should bet the Cardinals Thursday night. This was their last game without DeAndre.
And they are going to be a little bit of a different team, but I don't think they're going to be – this isn't the Cardinals that we saw through, what, eight games last year? They're beating everybody? Should we bet the Cardinals in case DeAndre Hopkins does change everything? Who are they playing? And then we get Saints on Thursday night. I think it's two-point line.
We could feel like we're the smartest people ever, and we got ahead of the trend. People forgot DeAndre was coming back.
Maybe DeAndre will make the Cardinals so good, two and a half. He'll make the Cardinals so good that if you had this game in two months from now, the Cardinals would be seven-point favorites, but we're so sharp, we got it at two and a half.
It's actually a good thing that they lost to the Seawks this week yeah by low so high we just got value baby i think we can also say play we can also say to ourselves that if this if this play doesn't work it was still the right play because it was value and deandre hopkins coming because wait till wait wait till later on the season when it will be a lot more for uh arizona cardinals home game although they suck at home i bet you kyler mur Murray's pumped to have a full weekend with no football that he has to worry about. Yep.
Like he gets to actually experience a weekend off. Of Call of Duty.
Of Call of Duty. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, right, right. And the Seahawks, I just love that the Seahawks keep winning games because it really is like, oh, Pete Carroll's a good coach and sticking it to Russell Wilson.
Because their offense, like Geno kind of came back down to earth, but their defense played well, and they have a bunch of young guys on defense. I don't know.
I just like it. The Seahawks are a fun story.
I'm rooting for the Seahawks out of spite. I'm ready to say that Pete Carroll won the Russell Wilson breakup right now.
I'd agree. I think he's miles ahead.
He's back on the scene. He's dating.
He's having a good russell wilson is just trying to like put on social media how happy he is but he knows that he's not happy um this is the exact game by the way where if russell wilson was a seahawks quarterback and they won this game in the same way that they did today russell wilson would be very upset with how this game went yeah geno smith is like we want a football game i'm geno smith i just want a football game this is awesome yeah and the um uh the nfl writer uh benjamin solik he did a video i didn't watch the actual video i just watched the twitter video that was like 45 seconds long and the premise which i just was like okay i'm taking this as fact now you know when you see someone who like breaks down film when they say something and they say something, you're like, all right, that's my fact. Always.
He basically was like, the Seahawks' offense runs better because they like to run crossing patterns in the middle, and Geno Smith's taller than Russell Wilson. And he can see over the offensive line.
And Russell Wilson can't make those throws in the middle of the field, but Geno Smith can. That's why their offense is running so well right now.
Again, he might have used that as a teaser and then dispelled that theory in the full video. Didn't watch the full video, but shout out to him.
Seemed like he was on to something. Okay, yeah, I'm down for that narrative 100%.
Gino Smith taller, better. But you know what I'm saying? If Russell Wilson was on this team, I feel like the narrative would be like, oh, Russ won another ugly one.
He's not happy not happy with right this offense is treating him right it's sometimes nice to have a guy that can take something good that happens and just be happy with right you just want yeah and the Seahawks are are three and three I don't think anyone thought they were going to be three and three through six weeks everyone thought they were they were picked by a lot of people to be one of the worst teams in the NFL I do not think they're one of the worst worst teams. No, they're definitely not.
I thought that they were going to be just dog shit bad. Yeah, they're not on two, three games.
They're not on our level. No, I'm way worse.
We are the worst Washington team in the NFL. They're not in the Bears, the Washington Commanders, Texans.
There's way worse teams than the Seahawks. Jaguars maybe.
Maybe. I don't know.
The Jaguuars still i'll fall back in love with them just because they're they're kind they have the young talent thing yeah oh to have young talent uh jake you look like you got something on your mind yeah so i'm sure we're gonna see this a lot from now until thursday so we want to report it first the cardinals have not won a home game since week seven last year oh wow so that might not be this year but maybe that's also the way deandre hopkins he was on that team nearly 365 did hopkins play that game in week seven last year yeah i think he probably did week seven last year they beat oh it was a gami it was 31-5 against houston wow that game wow what a terrible game um deandre hopkins 31-5. That is the Pepsi of NFL games.
7 for 53 and a touchdown. Okay.
I still like it. Shout out Kenneth Walker, the third two.
So they have not won at home nearly a year. Okay, so maybe this is not the hammer play.
I feel like this game served two valuable lessons. It was good for two things.
One, it was good for Seattle fans that had just watched an 18-inning baseball game and were very depressed today. Two, it was good for Scott Hansen on the Red Zone channel because you can't just broadcast the entire Chiefs-Bills game.
You have to cut away occasionally at something else for NFL rights purposes. So it was good to just flash over and be like, here's another field that you can look at for 30 seconds.
Okay, we're going back to Arrowhead. Scott Hanson also tweeted out his, I think it was his breakfast.
He doesn't drink coffee. He just pounds Diet Cokes.
And he also had a lot of bacon. It was just a whole thing of bacon and Diet Coke.
It's kettle. And that just, yeah, it's like, okay, I understand why he just is a machine.
Apparently, it's so he doesn't pee. That diet, Billy would know probably, but that diet helps with you going away from the bathroom.
Because there's a lot of salt. Billy, does that make sense? I still don't believe it.
I think he pees under that desk. I would.
I would dipe up. I'd pee in a bottle.
They don't really show him unless unless it's like halftime or i'd pee in a bottle yeah i would i would honestly wear a diaper if i were him peeing in bottles is fun yeah it is yeah but i think seeing scott handsome on that i think the sound would probably carry over into the mind would also be fun it would be kind of funny like yeah like you're only allowed to pee when there's like after an interception Yeah. And he just comes back to him.
He's just peeing. He's got his hands below his desk.

Okay. Like you're only allowed to pee after an interception.
Yeah. And he just comes back to him and he's just peeing.
He's got his hands below his desk. Okay, last game.
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And it was Josh Allen just making an insane throw because he's Josh Allen and we fucking love him. And then everyone was like, oh, too much time for Mahomes.
Minute and three seconds, two timeouts. And then he threw an interception.
You're like, wait, what? This is how this ends? Difference was, I think he had to try to do a lot more on that last drive because they were down four. If they were down three, I bet you that the Chiefs go down and tie the game.
Well, maybe, but it was really just the difference of Von Miller being on the team. So, recurring guest of the show, Marshall Newhouse, he tweeted out what happened on that Mahomes INT.
It was actually interesting. I think he's right.
So, Buffalo had three defensive ends and one defensive tackle buffalo had somebody that was playing um the three technique inside yep drop back like he was going to spy mahomes and it's interesting because like if you're an offensive lineman and your defensive lineman that you're supposed to block takes a step back from you you are going to pause first and be like what the hell is going on yeah Yeah. As he paused, then Vaughn Miller does an inside move into, uh, off that guy's left shoulder comes inside, flushes my homes out of the pocket.
And then my homes gets flustered, throws the interception, but it was because of the three technique taking like a step back off the line and okie doke. And they did.
And they did that all day. The bills defense, uh, like, I mean, I know know that they mahomes still had some mahomes plays but they held them to 20 points they were dropping eight all day and they were also spying mahomes with milano all day and it was like oh sean mcdermott you know obviously he's a great coach but you you still think like mahomes mahomes is gonna do he's gonna do he still had a couple plays where it's like there's nothing you can do this is patrick mahomes but the bills came in and they're like everything that happened last year is not gonna happen this year and we're gonna fix this win a game that i would assume is gonna be very pivotal in terms of seating when we get later on in the year and it was like you got to be so pumped if you're a bills fan because they can win the games where they just absolutely kick the shit out of their opponents this was just a hard fought game that both defenses were playing pretty well and uh i mean josh allen's stats were still insane by the end of the game and i'm happy for the bills bills mafia like this i know that it doesn't matter because it's not the playoffs you still got to slay the dragon in the playoffs, but goddamn does that have to feel good to be able to go into KC and win this game the way they did where it's like defense, Vaughn Miller being the addition that changes everything, and Josh Allen being Josh Allen.
And so that interception at the end, that's usually an interception that gets dropped against Mahomes. Mahomes somehow has that crazy interception luck where a pass like that will bounce off their chest, hit the ground before they can catch it, and then Mahomes goes down and wins the game.
This time it didn't happen. This Buffalo team, their defense is legitimately good.
And if you do the visualization thing where you just imagine these two teams meeting each other in the AFC Championship game, if it's in Kansas City, you're like, I'm visualizing this instant classic. Yeah.
If you close your eyes and visualize it in Buffalo, it's like, I think Buffalo could beat the fuck out of them. Yes.
At home. And winning this game is going to go a long way to that.
It's huge. It's absolutely enormous for the Bills.
And yeah jordan poyer too yeah jordan poyer uh he was not medically cleared to fly because he had a rib injury so he drove 15 hours to kansas city and back because i'm not a doctor but i think like if you have a rib injury it might be affecting the lung you don't want to go up in the air and have altitude like fuck with your lung yeah i don't know what i don't know exactly why it seems to me like if you if you're not allowed to fly you probably shouldn't be playing in a football game nope but not this guy he's a football guy yeah he's a football guy and uh i wish this game was i know cbs needs like you know cbs and fox they need some of these big game of the weeks i do wish this game was a standalone game because it was one of those games you just want to just soak in because even when there weren't points being scored just the threat of both these quarter both the quarterbacks feel like they're just in the zone at all times you know what I mean like everything anytime there's a deep pass you're like well that's gonna work and it's it's it is like watching a different sport compared to i don't know 20 other teams in the nfl and how hard it is for them to score points yeah and it was yeah it was a lot of fun they did do like it's not a standalone game wink wink right because your other options were the seahawks and the cardinals right are the panthers and the rams i just wish they played on a monday night where it would be nice where we pumped all monday we could all focus on it. Tony Romo was a bummer from the get-go on this one and told everyone, I don't think there's going to be a lot of points.
It's probably going to be a 20-24 game. Jerk.
Good call, you asshole. This is an all-time Tony Romo.
I'm going to do the thing where I sound like I'm either taking a big shit or busting a big nut into the game the entire time, even on plays that didn't even look like they were going to be close to being reviewed. He was so quick to go to the...
There was also an article that came out earlier this week. I think Dick Ebersole did an interview and said that he thinks that Tony Romo is losing his love for broadcasting and he hasn't been as good at it as he has in years past.
And I think Dick was saying, if you gave me an afternoon with Tony, I'd fix everything. Wow.
But he needs to be reminded that he's not God's gift to broadcasting. And it's about more than just showing up and talking into the mic.
I thought he said he needed six weeks with him. That's what it would take.
He's like, if I was producing him for six weeks, I could get him back on track. I believe that's what he said.
It sounds like Jake Ebersole is pretty much just like, Tony Romo should pay me because he has all this money now. Yeah, like whoever they're producing sucks.
Yeah, like Tony Romo, you need producer camp for six weeks. He's not wrong.
I feel like Tony has lost a step. Jake, what are your thoughts as a broadcaster? I mean, it's a totally different position.
Well, if you don't put the pep in your lane. Stay in your lane, dick.
We have different takes about Tony Romo than most of America. Most of America loves him.
We're on an island as this podcast. I'm fine with it.
I feel good about where we're at. But some of the has been that once tony romo gets removed from the game and it's not as easy as like oh i played against this defense last year i know exactly what they're doing it might be a little more difficult like i feel like tony romo is to broadcasting as kyler murray is to playing quarterback where Tony needs to have his contract.

You can only play, I don't know,

four rounds of golf in a week and the rest of the time you need to be in

front of a screen.

You need to be working.

I do like that.

Like people,

I do think we're like semi vindicated with our Tony Romo take because it

was one of those takes that people accuse of accused us of being like,

Oh,

you guys just don't like them because everyone else likes them. We're like, no, we're giving real criticism here.
And it's still fine. I'm watching the game.
I'm not like, oh, man. But there's a couple times a game where it's like, what is he doing? I mean, he's still good at anticipating things before that happened as he was with nailing the final score on this.
I was going to say 24 to 24. That's like a cheap magic trick.

You know, like, okay, he has a card trick that he can do.

And it was a bummer.

At the end of the day, I don't want to have a magician.

I want to have somebody that's doing actually, like,

good color analysis of the game.

Yeah, listen, I think the enthusiasm is unique for an analyst to have

like he does.

Yeah.

Like the sounds.

I don't know, Jake. You're not going to hear anyone else doing that.
There should have been way more points scored. Yeah.
We got ripped off. We did get ripped off.
There was a few red zone gaffes that ripped us off. I don't mind what they were doing, though.
Like the Bills going for it in the game. I love watching a game where both coaches know that their quarterbacks are playing at such a high level they're like we trust you with everything yeah and that's when football becomes like almost to another level where it's like holy shit this is just fun because you know both these guys will make huge plays and their coach will say hey if we're fourth down the middle of the field let it.
It is. The Chiefs are still a very, very, very good offensive football team.
They're different. They're different.
They would probably rather have Tyreek Hill than not have him. Yes.
And that does make a little bit of a difference. But who knows? I mean, their defense seems to be better-ish.
So, you know, like, and they had to, you knew this was coming when you give patrick homes that huge contract i i i still think that it was the right move just in terms of if you're the chiefs you want to stay relevant for as long as patrick homes your quarterback which probably will but you have to always be changing your roster and making a move an anticipation move instead of waiting until everyone gets Yep. So, but yeah, great game.
Chiefs will be very good for a very long time, but this does, it does make it feel like the Bills are for real. Yeah.
For real. Yeah.
And basic tweet, just let these two teams play in a seven game series. Yeah.
Or what about dogfight football? You remember that from Top Gun too? Yes. Yes.
Get Josh Allen and Mahomes on the field at the same time yeah but seriously though if they did uh if they're like hey the afc playoffs we're just gonna have a best of three with the chiefs and bills yeah okay cool that sounds good to me completely fine with that or just sign me up or just at the end of the season have them play best of seven the winner wins the super bowl yeah. Yeah, that works.
Just eliminate the NFC entirely.

That absolutely works.

Okay, let's finish up the show.

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Yeah, so we kind of had a little bit of a backfire this week.

I don't know who won last week's football guy.

The guy in prison won.

We knew that was going to happen.

Yeah, it was very close.

I wouldn't call that a backfire.

That's kind of what we tried to make happen.

Totally expected outcome. We actually fucking nailed that one.
Yeah, Mike Leach was very close. I wouldn't call that a backfire.
That's kind of what we tried to make happen.

Totally expected outcome.

We actually fucking nailed that one.

Yeah, Mike Leach was in second with 25.9% of the votes,

and Florida man got 26.

So what we're going to do is, with the Texans,

we're going to have them not send the football to this guy.

We're going to have them skip.

Yeah, so whoever wins the next one,

I just don't think we should be rewarding child abuse.

Is he in prison?

Yeah, he's in prison. So you probably can't send a football to him.

Yeah. Actually,

Billy, here's your mission. Send a football with a file inside of it

and see if it'll get inside.

I'm not in the mood to commit felonies.

But maybe later.

So our first football guy nominee

is two Fresno State

football coaches who something happened in the press box, and one of the coaches punched a window and knocked out the whole window, and it landed on two fans. That's sick.
So. They didn't report who did it, but this coach has been put on administrative lead.

Yeah.

And yeah.

So we're not rewarding bad behavior,

but our first guest.

No,

this is,

this is like Billy's doing to this coach.

Billy's doing this coach with Kyle Brandt did to Ken Dorsey when he

flipped out in his booth.

So Billy,

you're saying like,

yeah,

this will be a permanent stain on this Fresno state coach. Well you wanted to highlight it to make sure that everyone knew not to ever do that again.
Anyway, punching through a window is a psycho move no matter where you are. You cut your arm up pretty bad.
Yeah, Fresno State ended up winning 17-14. Oh worked i don't know yeah okay all right so yeah so uh second nominee is jeremiah crawford offensive lineman from tennessee he was uh in the middle of the game tennessee alabama he puked in the huddle and then just stared at the alabama defensive line after puking and i think it was quoted he said like fucking let's fucking bring it on yeah he was, he was like, what's up? What are you going to do now? He started puking.
You stepped to PFT. Yeah, it was kind of like that.
Exactly. Then he walked away.
I was puking too. Because I told you to walk away.
Our third nominee is Tennessee fans as a whole who carried out the goalpost from the game and dumped it in the river. I like that.

The entire volunteer fan base. Exactly.

So who knows if they'll win. And then our

final, we talked about earlier,

Jordan Poyer, safety

for the Bills. He wasn't medically cleared.

It had something to do with cabin pressure

and ribs and lungs and whatnot.

And so he drove.

I say we vote for

the criminals. Yeah.
I like that.

Oh, the Tennessee students?

Yeah. No, the

I'm not going to the criminals. Yeah.
I like that. Oh, the Tennessee students? Yeah.
Yeah. No, the guy that punched out.
The unnamed football guy of the week that punched out a window. I do like how half the nominees are criminals again this week.
Yeah. Great week.
Well, yeah. There's two non-criminals.
Yeah. But so 50-50 is good.
Yeah, 50-50. It's a good split.
Yeah, it's a good split. By the way, I think that the laws that the Tennessee Volunteers fan base violated, those shouldn't be laws at all.
Yeah. If you beat Alabama for the first time since, what, 2006 in your own stadium and then you jump into the top four, you know that they're one of the best teams in the country, you should absolutely be allowed to break the law.
It should be like the purge in Knoxville. Did you see the picture? There was a woman that ripped up an entire half acre of the turf, basically.
It was like a picture of the field. It was like, who would ever do this? And then someone had a picture where in the background it was like this big woman just ripping up the ground and shoving it in her bag it was an incredible incredible game incredible night there's nothing quite like college football when a rival uh like has a long drought is similar to michigan ohio state last year and finally exercises their demons and like all the scenes with that said and uh, uh, I like Tennessee ball for life.
One, two national championships there. They really, they really shit on themselves today by posting that.
Go fund me. Oh, it was a joke.
It was. Yeah.
Yeah. Are you sure? Yeah.
So I thought people were actually giving money though. No, no.
So what they did was they put it up there and it's not because they need money for goalposts. Anytime a school wins a big football game like this, they always put something out, and they try to get more money donated to the university capitalized.
They weren't actually saying, like, we need money for goalposts. That's what they said.
Yeah, I know in the tweet it was what they said, Jake, but they weren't actually in dire straits to pay for the goalposts. Yeah, okay, giving it's giving to the actual school yeah it's giving the school okay yeah because they titled it the new goalposts yeah yeah it's it's like a okay that's like a wink it's like a wink and a nod and because i love the i love the whole thing that the the night was incredible like i mean just the whole thing was i i just i watched videos for the entire night yeah.
And I know that there were some Bama fans being like, it's not even a rivalry. Yeah.
When you have like a tradition of smoking cigars after that's a rivalry. The picture of the stadium.
They were hot boxing the stadium with cigars with all the smoke coming out of it. That was so fucking cool to see.
Yeah. Knoxville was so cool.
Like when the entire field was just flooded, you couldn't see any green it was just orange shirts all the way down peyton manning with uh jalen hyatt hyatt after smoking a cigar in the uh locker room like everything was fucking awesome from that game jalen hyatt by the way uh that was that was the randy moss picture did you had six catches for 207 yards five touchdowns yeah it was better it was better than the randy moss picture that's insane did you hear big t's noise that he made when he was smoking that cigar i did i want to play it one more time i've probably listened to this maybe like i mean this is again this is 15 years that tennessee fans weren't allowed to smoke cigars yeah 16 years and if you know big t he's probably never he the cops on his friends. No one was allowed to smoke a cigar.
They're smoking a cigar. Yeah.
Okay, here's Big T hitting a cigar. It was an awesome night.
I love it. Awesome night for Tennessee.
One of those games that, like, you just didn't want to end because it was so, like, every part of it was just, it was college football at its absolute, absolute best. I actually had that moment where there are a lot of people out there who just don't watch college football, and I don't know what those people are doing with their life.
That was so fun. The amount of points that were scored was back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
It had everything. I thought they were going to lose it on that kick at the end that he pushed just barely to the right.
The i thought they were going to lose it i was like how do you have that happen that was tough and then you know what i noticed was they so they fumbled the ball on that uh on that mesh on the handoff and then the next play that they ran offensively they did it again yeah they went right back to it and they they were like okay we're just going to do this because we know we can. That was just a freak accident that happened right there.
Saban freaking out, and now Tennessee, Georgia becomes the biggest game in the world. Do you think that Nick Saban actually killed that guy that muffed the punt? Man.
I think in that moment, if Nick Saban had had a knife, I think he would have stabbed him in the throat. Yeah, he was just freaking out.
Unbelievable game, unbelievable scenes. i'm happy we got to talk about it because it was that was the best game of the weekend college and pro uh let's do who's back though and and uh the show great show today guys we did it we did it guys shout out me i lost every bet we're back but i'm back same we're back yeah Billy, thanks.
Billy, thanks every bet. Not every bet.
Not every bet. Eagles and over.
But, you know, that's maturity of me because I'm sure that if you went back like, you know, four years ago and you could listen to a Sunday show when I lose every bet, I'm terrible, terrible to be around. But I feel like I put on a happy, brave face.
And then I'm going to go look tonight and be like, oh, man, the damage damage just like a brush fire in my house just like what what did i do okay at least let's not talk about it at least we have at least we have russell wilson to look forward to tomorrow night and we get no matter how bad things got today we've got a real pathetic loser coming up tonight and russell wilson that we can all laugh at i'm like fucking uh matt damon when he gets stuck on that planet and Interstellar. Is it Interstellar? Is it about the Martian? Well, he also was in Interstellar, wasn't he? Oh, yeah.
He got stuck twice. Yeah, he tried to kill.
Just fucking shoot me. Yeah, that's me.
That's the part of it, bud. Oh, that's the part of it, yeah.
So all the Matt Damon characters combined. We bought a zoo.
My Who's Back of the Week is Shorts. Oh,.
I love it. Shorts are back.
In what way? Brooks Koepka. Yeah.
Blake of the Year winner. He won the Live Open of this weekend, whatever it was called.
I didn't know they were playing. They were playing, and they're allowed to wear shorts, so he won his final round in a pair of shorts it was very funny because he won and um and he he was he was he was emotionally like he was like you know i didn't think i was gonna get back i thought my career was over he looked like he was about to cry in this post game interview was emotional and i'm happy for when did this he's back when did it end today what time today it was okay it was a normal time that it ended it ended like middle of the one o'clock games right okay it a regular time.
I was getting some tweets and I didn't even realize they were playing so then people were like, are you shunning him? Like, no, we're not shunning him. He's unsuspended.
Very happy for him. I just didn't know Liv Tor was going on today.
Sorry. Do you get more money for winning? Probably.
Yes. It's the Saudi Public Investment Fund.
I would imagine that they probably give out a couple dollars absolutely wasn't there some story about like it not being more money it's like yeah there was a story that there was people going back and forth where like the money that you win is counted against what you're guaranteed money right which i mean is not true i don't think that's true. But if you're the Saudi Public Investment Fund and you just don't pay somebody, what are they going to do? Yeah.
What? Do you like your arms? Yeah. Okay.
You want to keep golfing? Then you're going to play next weekend. Yeah.
But good for Brooks. Happy he's back.
In shorts. In shorts.
In shorts. I'm very happy for Brooks because it was a big deal for him.
We got to get him on again. He's been injured for a while, and a lot of people said a lot of mean things about him.
Not us. We just...
No, I'll hit him up. We'll have him back on, too.
We just spend him for a week. I still love Brooks, and I'd love to chat with him.
So very happy for him. So then my who's back will be...
I can't do Brooks Koepka because Hank stole mine. Well, mine was short, so short so you could okay my who's back of the week is brooks kepka because he won a tournament for the first time in years today i think that the pga tour should actually they should have exemptions for any player that wins a live tour event to come back and play in every single major let them back in hashtag let them play let the boys play this is no worse than what

the NCAA was doing to JMU. I guess my other who's back of the week is us getting way ahead of ourselves and thinking about great things that could happen way before that they're actually going to come do.
Us. I have one for you, PFT.
Haley Bieber and Selena. So I don't know who those people are.
Us. It was definitely us.
It was big. Oh, wait.
No, I saw – Hank, I saw you tweet out, like, the most horny tweet ever, and I was like, I didn't want to explore anything else about that. Why were you so horny about it? No, that wasn't horny.
You made it horny. You just made it horny.
No. You just made it horny.
Wait, wait, wait. You make it horny of all time.
Big Cat, let me explain to you. Okay, PFT, I don't know.
Shut the fuck up, Hank. I'm going to ask if you know what satire is first.
That's my first question to you. Oh, you're going to ask me.
He was tweeting like a basic white chick. Okay, so it was a satirical horny tweet.
It wasn't horny at all. Oh, no, PFT.
It was a satirical horny tweet. Show me the tweet.
It's a picture of two girls, and then Hank says, like, this is it, or something like that. I said, I literally can't.
I literally can't, yeah. That's, that's.
I think you might have implied the horny. Well, what would you think if I tweeted out a picture of two girls and I said, I literally can't? That's Valley girl talk.
Yeah. Selena used to date Bieber.
Yeah. They broke up.
Then Bieber started dating. No, married.
Well, started dating Haley. Right right and then they got married selena obviously has a big fan base they hate hayley they think that you know things were going on while they were still dating doesn't sound satirical it's a it's a big it's a big it's a big major major major rivalry and so them taking a picture together had all the basic bitches of freaking out saying things along the lines of, I literally can't.
I'm freaking out. Oh, my God.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Put it on the log.
So that was my satirical, oh, my God. I literally can't.
If I see Hank tweeting on a picture of two hot girls. If I tweeted two girls, I literally can't.
Wait, are you denying that they're attractive girls no but i i get what hank's saying he's talking like he's talking like how the girls that are involved in this drama would talk okay so when i tweet out a picture of miley cyrus and i'm making fun of what simps online say by saying something like miley choke me out with the piano string uh-huh and then run me backhoe. That's so different.
That's actually me being horny and not satirically horny. You are probably tweeting it with a boner.
You probably are tweeting it with a boner. There was no horniness.
It sounds like what I'm doing is exactly what Hank's doing. Hank's tweeting like a gossip.
But I'm the one that I get all the Toombs memes tweeted at me. You're doing satire of horny.
He's just doing satire of what girls... Again, that's why I asked if you knew what satire was.
It's all right. You clearly don't.
One day... He's doing what's true.
We'll get you up to speed. We'll get you there.
Girls are talking about it. Hank, please educate me about how to be satirical online.
I will. I will.
I'd appreciate that. I'll be our project of the week.
Okay. And you can teach me how to be horny online.
You might take a little bit longer than that, Hank. You might want to put bonk and triggered in the log.
Also put not mad in the log. Not mad, not old.
Make sure to write an article. He's totally fine.
Jake, can you write an article tomorrow saying that PFT wasn't mad? Thank you. Was not mad.
I feel like I should publish this as a book.

Jake, you don't actually have to write that.

I see you about to take a note.

Thank you.

Okay.

All right.

My who's back is baseball playoffs and the Dodgers.

The Dodgers have not won anything.

Can we agree the bubble championship didn't count?

Yep.

That did happen.

Also.

For the whole city.

Did we just forget how, like, right afterwards they had a couple players that had COVID celebrating on the field with Magic Johnson? Yeah. Like, right up in his face.
What's he ever done? That was kind of weird. He got AIDS.
There's one guy that you should not be hugging. Anyways, I digress.
111 wins out in four games against the Padres. Awesome.
Yeah. I love And it feels like Dodgers fans have been complaining about Dave Roberts for a long time now, and no one has realized that maybe he's not.
I mean, he actually guaranteed a World Series, too. He said that in the middle of the season.
He's like, print it. We're winning the World Series.
Well, you should have some sort of repercussions for that. You can't guarantee something.
He's got to cut off a pinky. At least.
Has to. But, yeah, that was awesome that the Dodgers lost because everyone just was like, oh, the Dodgers are the best team.
They're killing everyone. They were the best team during the regular season.
And now, obviously, everyone is saying the wild card needs to be longer. I don't think so.
I think this is just the fun randomness of playoff baseball. I't i don't like laughing at dodgers fans i have nothing against dodgers fans i wish nothing but the best for them but i do really enjoy laughing at old grumpy baseball writers yeah and that's that's one of my favorite things in the entire world to do and there have been an abundance of articles being like the playoff system is a complete travesty right now it's like well you gotta you still still got to win games.
Yeah, it's still fun. The playoffs, in my opinion, you either need to be one or the other, which is be in favor of having no playoffs and just a team with the best record in the NL against the best record in the AL for seven games, or be in favor of having a fun playoff system where anything can happen.
It's still not like baseball or excuse me. It's still not like basketball where you can lose one game and then the best team gets eliminated right off the bat.
Right. There's still always going to be a series.
In college basketball. And here's a little fun fact.
Whoever ends up winning the World Series, everyone would be like, that was the best team because they ended up winning 11 or maybe even 13 games. And everyone would be like, wow, they played the best baseball in the month of October.
So why don't we pause the whole, like, this is not fair, the best team just got bounced in the wild card round, just wait for it to play out because if the Phillies go and win the World Series, if the Astros go and win the World Series, whoever wins the World Series, we're going to look back and be like, that was the best team. They won the World Series.
Also, you have to examine what your definition of best is in this situation. So because a team was better over the course of 163 games, that team might not necessarily – maybe they just beat the fuck out of all the really bad teams.
And when they play against – that's what some people – not me. That's what some people are saying about Aaron Judge and his batting, feasting on weaker opponents.
But I'm saying if you're a great team over the course of an entire regular season, it doesn't always mean that you're the best team in Major League Baseball. Not only that, but if you're the best team in Major League Baseball, you should be able to win a five-game series with three games at home.
I know they didn't get to a fifth game against a team that just had to play three games in New York. They just had to play and use up their pitching rotation.
You had everything set up for you. Maybe the Dodgers just weren't that good.
They won 111 games, but who cares? I think they were good. Yeah, they were good.
They were definitely a very good team. You got to win the gotta win the fucking playoff if you can't beat the padres that have absolutely no tradition of winning in the playoffs whatsoever you got you got to be able to beat a team that you're supposed to be better than it still is weird like i was looking at the padres uh celebration on the field and just seeing like the palm trees behind it's like that's not october baseball you know what they're starting to yeah that is it's, oh, okay.
The Padres are starting to make me believe in their pinstripes a little bit. I had the Padres ranked last.
I did a list of my favorite teams in pinstripes, and they were dead last because they've always looked funky wearing them. For some reason, this team pulls off the pinstripes better than old Padres teams do.
Yeah. Also, if the Padres do win the World Series, and Max, I want to hear from you because you were there on Saturday at the bank.
Does Fernando Tadis get a ring? That's what I was going to ask you guys. What do you think he's feeling right now? I think he's probably feeling pretty good somewhere.
He's probably high as shit. Yeah.
He's probably jack i i'm like he's probably playing uh winter league baseball already right yeah i i think he did i think i think his dad took him around on a tour and then he just hit dingers for everyone being like he didn't do steroids look at these things that's kind of that's kind of cool i respect that i will say he was on the seam head express i cut him if we had won in the finals i was not going to give him a ring yeah so i don't know if the padres are thinking along the same lines uh max how we feeling about the fight and said uh i couldn't feel better saturday was probably the best sporting event i've ever been to in person it was so loud it felt like a scc football game in there every single pitch was just ruckus and and it was something that I'll never see again, I feel like. There's something about playoff baseball being there in person that I don't know if in person it can be topped by any other sporting event.
Just the intensity throughout. Right.
I like other sports more, but being at a playoff baseball game is there's just something about it that's so

fucking awesome football and basketball and hockey there's there's stoppages there's intermissions like obviously there's uh inning changes but you just feel that intensity yeah every pitch every pitch could be a disaster every pitch could be heroic um but it looked like and it was a picture perfect day in philly and you feel you feel like you're going all the way i I mean, I said this before the DS and it was like kind of the same thing.

I was happy that we got into the wild card and played well in the wild card because it kind of sparked this momentum and right now we're just riding that momentum and the team is loose we have our win song which we talked about like every team needs something going into the playoffs swarber. Stole it from the Red Sox.
I had a question about that because Max has come on this show and is there a chance... One nothing? What? I like this.
I like this, Hank. Yes, Hank.
He's one nothing. He didn't say that.
I, but. I thought you said won nothing.
Seems like something's in your head. Seems like something's in your head.
Are you worried at all about. Did you say diet? Stop it.
Did you say diet to him? No, he said to you. Oh, he could have said it to Max.
I don't know if he was talking about. He kind of went like that when he said it.
I think he said it to Max. You're calling Max fat? No, he went like this, PFT.
He went diet. No, he was saying it to you because of last time when he was like, pick your poison.
Are you talking about your food or are you talking about your hair? Nobody. I was talking about cell phone, one nothing, diet.
But you also kind of went like that to Max. Anyway, are you worried at all that Philly feels like they might be starting to steal your mojo? I mean, they literally stole the mojo with this song.
Right. I will say this.
But they are at the top of every sport right now. The Eagles can fuck right off.
They're not going to win the championship. Okay.
That's me. The Sixers also can fuck right off.
I literally need the Eagles to win to be even this year. When it comes to the Phillies, I have no negative feelings toward them.
And I've said this on the show many times, doing the show, covering sports. I like watching teams with fan bases that are excited and going crazy.
That's why you were pumped for the Astros to beat the Mariners? No, I had a fucking Mariners future. I was all in on the Mariners.
18 innings, by the way. They absolutely choked that series every single game.
I feel bad for Mariners fans, not necessarily because they lost. They just stayed up the whole time.
Because they had to watch 18 innings of baseball nonstop. Dude, I kept on checking in on the game and being like, what the fuck is going on? I was rooting for the Yankees game to end before that one.
That would have been awesome. So, Max, how do you feel about stealing Hank's mojo? Yeah, Hank, answer this.
Now, I'm curious what, Max, are you comfortable stealing Hank's mojo? I have no problem with the Phillies winning, and I'm kind of rooting for them. That's what I'm saying.
Wow. That could start everything.
You know how this works. It could start everything.
Winning begets winning. Have you thought about that? The entire town.
You should. The city of Philadelphia, they came out to that Phillies game.
Nick Sirianni was there. George Nyang there.
Jay Wright. Up until basketball season, I'm fine with Max.
Me and Max are fine. I like Max.
I root for the Phillies. I don't like Coach Jay wearing a jersey.
I feel like he should always be in a suit. I also feel bad.
What do, what do you guys think that Mike Trout thinks when he watches Bryce Harper

put Philly on his back? He's just pumped about his

Eagles. He's like, that should be me.
I think Bryce

should be him. I think Mike Trout is just pumped

to be a Phillies fan. Yeah.
I think he

definitely cares more about the Phillies than he does about the Angels.

100%. Which is

such a ridiculous thing to say.

Yes, he's watching these games. Oh, yeah.

Philly blood runs deep to the point

where you will ignore your job.

There's a story from Mike Trout that when

he was in Angels camp,

Thank you. Yes, he's watching these games.
Oh, yeah. Philly blood runs deep to the point where you will ignore your job.

There's a story from Mike Trout that when he was in Angels camp,

when the Phillies signed Doc Holliday, he called his dad and was like,

we got Holliday, we got Holliday.

And he was like, oh, the Angels?

He's like, no, the Phillies.

That's why. I bet you Trout has some sort of Phillies thing that he wears

underneath his Angels uniform when he plays.

He should really get a trade. Okay, so you didn't answer the question, but you're nervous.
I got it. Billy.
Oh, by the way, the inside the park home run that you guys had, I think that that's the, I think that's the coolest thing to witness live at a sporting event. I'm trying to think.
Crescendo. What's, what's the NFL equivalent in terms of like loudness, awesome vibes in one.
It's a sporting event. I'm trying to think.
It's crescendo. What's the NFL equivalent in terms of loudness, awesome vibes in one single play? It's a kick return probably.
I was going to say maybe like a block punt. Yeah.
A kick return though has that crescendo where you're like, wait, is he going to do it? Is he going to do it? Is he loose? You know, it would be sick if they had a sky cam in baseball that could follow somebody around as they hit it inside the park over on. So where my seats were, I couldn't see where the ball was.
So all I was doing was just watching him round the bases. So it was like it just kept getting louder and louder.
And then as soon as he started the round third, it was like, oh, my God, he's going to do it. He's going to do it.
And then the pop. There's something about the pop that just still gives me chills right now.
Dude, it's the best. Hank hates you.
I can tell. He's got this little look on his face.
No, I like the Phillies. I like watching the Phillies game.
You hated that entire thing, Hank. Alright, Bill, you're who's back? I like people to be up so that when they go down, it's that much worse.
Oh, yeah, you're a fucked up person. You're a freak.
We talked about a lot of it, but the Jets are back. Sam Ellinger is back, but also Caleb Plant, the boxer, knocked out.
The Nashville-born boxer knocked out Anthony Durrell, and then while Anthony Durrell was still unconscious on the ground, started doing the motion of digging. He said he was going to do it before.
Throwing dirt on it. Yeah, that was a fight with actual bad blood, but a lot of people were angry about it.
But killer move. Yeah.
That was an awesome one. Jake, finish us off.
My who's back is the National Basketball Association. Oh.
The season begins tomorrow. Oh, wait.
Tuesday? Tuesday. Shit.
Crazy. We have a double hunter? Nope.
You're not going to believe this. Philadelphia at Boston.
Oh, wow. That's where things are.
Yeah, everything's going really well for this. The first game of the NBA season.
They got Blake. And this is going to get interesting.
Also, Lakers-Warriors in a doubleheader. So, great doubleheader Tuesday night and a big slate Wednesday.
Yeah, basketball is not real to me. No, it's Christmas Day.

When Hank was like, I think

Max would be good for the job.

I was like, oh, that would be awesome. Philly, Boston.

He's like, he doesn't have to talk that much about Philly.

Now, Philly's winning.

Currently, yeah.

Wait, the NBA tips off tomorrow.

I love it. This is the best.

This is our last show before basketball starts. Finals predictions.
We're going to have to stick to them. You ready for this one? Nuggets.
You do that every year. I said last season.
Every year. No, I changed it last season.
I said this is the season before the season. Every year you fall in love with Nuggets.
Nuggets. They lose.
I'm going Nuggets. I wish you could be Nugs Blazers.
You know what I'm saying? Okay. Nuggets and the Celtics.
I'm going to go storyline, Mavs, Bucks, and everyone's just going to be like the European invasion is fully, fully here. Luka versus Giannis.

They're going to be like, the U.S. doesn't do basketball anymore.

Wait, wait.

Can I change mine?

No.

No.

No.

No.

No.

I'm going to go Celtics, Spurs.

No.

Okay.

Popovich.

Popovich.

He did tell people, don't bet him.

He literally said, yeah.

Yeah, he said, don't bet him.

All right. Jake? Zigwin, they're zagging.
The Spurs are plus 50,000 to win the West. That's pretty good.
And he said, don't bet them to win the championship. Yeah, that's true.
So there you go. So you just gave the Celtics the title.
I'm going to go Heat Warriors. Okay.
Heat Warriors. Billy? Yeah.
I'm going to go. Name two basketball teams, Billy.
The Lakers, Celtics. David Stern yeah that was literally like Billy Iker name two basketball teams Lakers Celtics Max Sixers Grizzlies whoa okay because that would just be fucking easy for the Sixers you know who I think is going to fly under the radar a little bit on the Clippers yeah yeah yeah not a lot of people are gonna talk about George but if they're healthy look I actually that's that's a good call Jay that is yeah I like that although they are the Clippers um I might just saying I just want to I want to change mine to the Suns because I really think that this is the notice I think this is Chris Paul's year next year I think it'd i think it'd be a tremendous disappointment your pick is the nuggets put that jake keep a note next year preseason he probably wants to pick the sun this is the season before the season for for chris paul okay numbers uh hank max homa had a question for you he wants to know if you've ever gotten the lottery machine correct no max but i was gonna was going to ask that same question.
Have you?

Refer to my answer to Max.

But Max has, right?

Max, our Max.

Batgirl.

Yeah, Batgirl has gotten it.

He has.

So, one-nothing.

Right?

It is technically one-nothing.

I think this is the day Hank gets it.

17. Absolutely not

I can see 17 right there Hank

Are you sure you want to pick that one?

It's all the way on the side

I swear to God I'm looking at 17

I'll go 34

18

I'm going to go 1

I'll go 16

Billy?

69

He's never getting it

Thank you. 16.
Billy? 69. He's never getting it.

48.

No, fall.

Fall.

Oh, he got bumped up.

That's too bad.

48.

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